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| DaemonFC | I can't seem to get a car loan. | Sep 24 03:02 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, Part of me wants to load up my credit cards buying a car and then just not pay the bill. | Sep 24 03:03 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm just praying that my car lasts another year or two. | Sep 24 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's already 20 years old. | Sep 24 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | Used car prices have gotten so terrible that I could probably sell it as-is for $1,500. | Sep 24 03:50 |
| DaemonFC | I can't seem to find anything that I'd be comfortable driving too far for under $2,000. | Sep 24 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | Seems to me that a "$2000 car" in 2005 would be a "$3500 car" in 2013. | Sep 24 03:54 |
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| MinceR | http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/09/spy-agencies-are-doing-what.html | Sep 24 06:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtonsblog.com | Spy Agencies Are Doing WHAT? | Washington's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/foiyq ] | Sep 24 06:39 |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382401684875788288 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382402080419622912 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382402378664001536 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382402730503180288 | Sep 24 08:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "The government is spying on essentially everything we do." http://t.co/DCXfE3oDGS | Sep 24 08:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Elop had a $25M personal bonus clause from the Nokia Board if he was able to sell the handset unit to Microsoft" http://t.co/9IeHegq64k | Sep 24 08:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: British school switches students' computers to Linux, reducing costs and improving computing knowledge https://t.co/wzJnt9eZg1 #uk | Sep 24 08:20 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382402955024285696 | Sep 24 08:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> joinup.ec.europa.eu | British school switches students' computers to Linux, reducing costs and improving computing knowledge | Joinup | Sep 24 08:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Link Rot and the US Supreme Court http://t.co/ki3nMIt1Nb because running domain+site not cheap | Sep 24 08:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The MAFIAA is abusing children's minds, at taxpayers' expense http://t.co/gmdBLa1UFz | Sep 24 08:20 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382402955024285696 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382403390246227968 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382403497339416576 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382403732182671360 | Sep 24 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: What if Verizon succeeds in killing the Internet? http://t.co/gVlMaN4oha #verizon #netneutrality | Sep 24 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.infoworld.com | What if Verizon succeeds in killing the Internet? | Data Center - InfoWorld | Sep 24 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Mega Relives Megaupload Fame, Overtakes RapidShare http://t.co/d6ZEyKXuWb quick growth. #mega #sharing #storage | Sep 24 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> torrentfreak.com | Mega Relives Megaupload Fame, Overtakes RapidShare | TorrentFreak | Sep 24 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Valve announces Linux-based “SteamOS” as basis for living room #gaming http://t.co/OvVEXw5ekL #gnu #linux | Sep 24 08:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Valve announces Linux-based “SteamOS” as basis for living room gaming | Ars Technica | Sep 24 08:21 |
| JimmyCarter | SteamOS sounds sweet, i want it already | Sep 24 08:24 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSJqBJ1TF-E | Sep 24 08:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Apple iOS 7 iPhone 5S Commercial - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fok7i ] | Sep 24 08:34 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3097702 | Sep 24 08:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: iOS 7 http://i.imgur.com/S1Lir8d.jpg | Sep 24 08:34 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3097669 | Sep 24 08:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: SUSE Drops #LibreOffice Backing | Sep 24 08:34 |
| schestowitz_mob | "Another thing to know, Novell is closed to Microsoft (particularly since 2006) And Microsoft Office and LibrOffice are contradictory. Microsoft wants to have another foot in FreeWorld with integration of MsOffice in Linux. Suse Drops LibreOffice ? Maybe Suse purpose MsOffice Integration ... (argh !)" | Sep 24 08:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | SUSE Drops LibreOffice Backing | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fok7y ] | Sep 24 08:34 |
| schestowitz_mob | "I would think there will come a time when Microsoft will have to bite the bullet and offer Microsoft Office for GNU/Linux. No?" | Sep 24 08:35 |
| schestowitz_mob | "even if they offer it, I don't want it ....." | Sep 24 08:35 |
| schestowitz_mob | "I wouldn't either. But for a friend I know who wants to switch to GNU/Linux but "can't because it doesn't have Office" is a friend who I will happily provide information to on how to acquire the software. Hell, it's one of those rare cases where I'd be tempted to pay Microsoft for the software, and I'd buy Office for my friend (under the condition of moving from Windows or MacOS to GNU/Linux). Then again, I think th | Sep 24 08:36 |
| schestowitz_mob | at making an unauthorized copy of Office and sharing that with my friend is the more ethical choice which I would choose if I could (there are probably bittorrents of Office out there?). That way I'd minimize the bad parts of the decision to help a friend acquire and use proprietary software." | Sep 24 08:36 |
| schestowitz_mob | "Anything backed by Microsoft will end this way. They constantly build branches to inject poison and then saw them off. Groklaw published the Microsoft/Novel Open Office "compatibility" contracts which clearly limited the function of Open Office to failing silently in several important ways. Microsoft never wants anything to actually work with their office formats and will sue or otherwise destroy any project that ac | Sep 24 08:37 |
| schestowitz_mob | hieves this. Libre Office is the end product of the Microsoft/Novell cooperation and it has injected OOXML code into most GNU/Linux distros. It works just well enough to keep people from outright rejecting OOXML documents but it opens up distributions to nasty patent lawsuits in almost the same way Mono would have if anyone had used it." | Sep 24 08:37 |
| schestowitz_mob | It's just Go-OO again, but Oracle (of CPTN, MS deals, anti-Android complaints, Apple admiration) that forced some community members into it in 2010 | Sep 24 08:38 |
| schestowitz_mob | "That's really sad, I know there were SUSE people working on the HTML5 implementation of LibreOffice. I wonder if that's why we haven't heard much about it since their announcement in March that a roadmap would be coming in April... never did get that roadmap did we?" | Sep 24 08:38 |
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| iophk | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/metadata_equals.html | Sep 24 09:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: Metadata Equals Surveillance [ http://ur1.ca/foklo ] | Sep 24 09:08 |
| MinceR | r4wr | Sep 24 09:18 |
| JimmyCarter | any famous bloggers wanna write about my open source software? | Sep 24 10:13 |
| iophk | http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/fedora-linux-turns-10-whats-next.html | Sep 24 10:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.eweek.com | Fedora Linux Turns 10: What's Next? [ http://ur1.ca/folg3 ] | Sep 24 10:32 |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382410133059698689 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382410840861061120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382412974646116352 | Sep 24 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Forbes Calls Goldman CEO Holier Than Mother Teresa http://t.co/4aXN3xmuHl that's what Forbes has been for - glorifying thieves | Sep 24 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.rollingstone.com | Forbes Calls Goldman CEO Lloyd Blankfein Holier Than Mother Teresa | Matt Taibbi | Rolling Stone | Sep 24 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: FIVE YEARS AFTER LEHMAN’S: DID WE LEARN ANYTHING? http://t.co/vaA7hn7zJi "Obama administration’s capture by Goldman" | Sep 24 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.economonitor.com | EconoMonitor : Great Leap Forward » FIVE YEARS AFTER LEHMAN’S: DID WE LEARN ANYTHING? | Sep 24 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: How Does Left 4 Dead 2 Perform On Ubuntu 13.04 Compared To Windows 8? http://t.co/ewuxDYIPeZ #vista8 #gnu #linux | Sep 24 10:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gamingonlinux.com | GamingOnLinux - How Does Left 4 Dead 2 Perform On Ubuntu 13.04 Compared To Windows 8? | Sep 24 10:53 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382442797162188800 | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: First impressions of ArchBang Linux 2013.09.01 http://t.co/8RQnAg2z5C 'few features and no bugs." #linux #gnu | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Sep 24 10:54 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382412974646116352 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382414086266712064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382414234795401216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382415325943590912 | Sep 24 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Valve Has Announced The SteamOS Built On #Linux http://t.co/bkVh1jD1YE http://t.co/p0JuPCLFfH http://t.co/Jhrzp6xFy4 | Sep 24 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gamingonlinux.com | GamingOnLinux - Valve Has Announced The SteamOS Built On Linux UPDATED | Sep 24 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> metro.co.uk | Valve promises three announcements this week – SteamBox and more? | Metro News | Sep 24 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | Calm Down, Internet -- Valve Isn't Building Their Own Steam Box - Forbes | Sep 24 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: iRacing Adds Linux to Existing MAC and PC Platforms http://t.co/P0f5uRQ7YK http://t.co/wrYTaUSkgj #gnu #linux | Sep 24 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.sacbee.com | iRacing Adds Linux to Existing MAC and PC Platforms - PR Newswire - The Sacramento Bee | Sep 24 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.gamasutra.com | Gamasutra - Press Releases - PixelJunk Monsters Ultimate coming to Mac and Linux on September 30th! | Sep 24 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Red Hat: Big bucks, big Linux http://t.co/LVznXDElmm http://t.co/eowlVLSLEh http://t.co/klse8nZiud | Sep 24 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | Red Hat: Big bucks, big Linux | ZDNet | Sep 24 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | Earnings Increase Expected for Red Hat (RHT) - Forbes | Sep 24 10:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.newsobserver.com | Red Hat's quarterly results beat Wall Street forecasts | Technology | NewsObserver.com | Sep 24 10:55 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382421244911820800 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382422186201739264 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382422485020725248 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382422727216627712 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382423922631004160 | Sep 24 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Microsoft Kill Shots: How IBM/Linux Deals the Latest Blow to Redmond Empire http://t.co/MgZcsgpq5G to prioritise free s/w | Sep 24 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | Microsoft Kill Shots: How IBM/Linux Deals the Latest Blow to Redmond Empire - Forbes | Sep 24 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Linux rootkit detector adds hardware punch to security scanning http://t.co/ef5bFkKCUO for the ultra-paranoid | Sep 24 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gcn.com | Linux rootkit detector adds hardware punch to security scanning -- GCN | Sep 24 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Mozilla Resets for Firefox 25 and 26 http://t.co/qAYPRq0LnC #mozilla #firefox | Sep 24 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.eweek.com | Mozilla Resets for Firefox 25 and 26 | Sep 24 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fedora Linux Turns 10: What's Next? http://t.co/qwbzd7lHv5 how time flies. 19 releases. | Sep 24 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.eweek.com | Fedora Linux Turns 10: What's Next? | Sep 24 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Managing the Transition to High-Availability Linux for Mission-Critical Workloads http://t.co/5mxHNIoZKY #linux #gnu #ha | Sep 24 10:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linux.com | Managing the Transition to High-Availability Linux for Mission-Critical Workloads | Linux.com | Sep 24 10:57 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382443818840514560 | Sep 24 10:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Metadata Equals #Surveillance https://t.co/ItntZo9pkI | Sep 24 10:59 |
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| iophk | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2049255/valve-announces-steamos-an-operating-system-built-for-the-living-room.html | Sep 24 11:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | Valve announces SteamOS, an operating system built for the living room | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fom2h ] | Sep 24 11:35 |
| iophk | So, Linux is in the phone, the tv, the pvr, the tablet, the servers, and the supercomputers. Now it's heading into the game consoles. | Sep 24 11:35 |
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| oiaohm | iophk: SteamOS is also a thin client off a PC. | Sep 24 11:52 |
| iophk | I thought it was standalone. | Sep 24 11:52 |
| oiaohm | iophk: SteamOS runs standalone for Linux games. | Sep 24 11:52 |
| oiaohm | iophk: but it can run Windows steam games thin client method. | Sep 24 11:53 |
| iophk | http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/valve-steam-box-release-date-news-and-features-1127072 | Sep 24 11:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techradar.com | Valve Steam Box release date, news and features | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/fom8k ] | Sep 24 11:53 |
| iophk | Would that thin client be accessing a server far away over the Internet? | Sep 24 11:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: too much lag doing that. | Sep 24 11:53 |
| iophk | That's what I expected. Where would the server for the thin client be then | Sep 24 11:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: note the in-home streaming on that link. | Sep 24 11:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: valve calls thinclient | Sep 24 11:55 |
| oiaohm | iophk: "in-home streaming" | Sep 24 11:55 |
| oiaohm | Now big question will valve allow many games to be running at once on 1 Windows/OS X machine going to many steam boxes. | Sep 24 11:55 |
| oiaohm | Also I wish valve will do in-home streaming from steambox back to Windows, Linux and OS X. | Sep 24 11:58 |
| iophk | Yes, streaming from Steambox would make a lot of sense. | Sep 24 12:00 |
| oiaohm | iophk: note the streaming is game streaming. | Sep 24 12:01 |
| iophk | It would be simpler for them to focus on that one platform rather than fight Windows (which is what Windows programming turns into anyway) | Sep 24 12:01 |
| iophk | Yes the game runs on the remote devices, if the hints are as I think they are. | Sep 24 12:01 |
| oiaohm | I really do like what SteamOS is planing. | Sep 24 12:01 |
| oiaohm | So now PC games head to head with console games. | Sep 24 12:01 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the big thing valve as not said is if they will allow one windows PC or OS X machine to serve up many games. | Sep 24 12:02 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I know how I could get a OS X to serve up many. | Sep 24 12:03 |
| iophk | I guess that would be of use in a house where several kids play games at the same time. | Sep 24 12:03 |
| oiaohm | thin client in the house as normal has to be MS worst nightmare because when people go to work they will think thin is normal. | Sep 24 12:03 |
| iophk | If there is one device per kid. | Sep 24 12:03 |
| iophk | Streaming to Android was mentioned, so some of the play could occur on the tablet or phone. | Sep 24 12:04 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I have a android set top box. | Sep 24 12:08 |
| iophk | pvr / dvr ? | Sep 24 12:08 |
| oiaohm | iophk: dvr | Sep 24 12:09 |
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| iophk | http://opensource.com/government/13/9/nsa-open-source | Sep 24 13:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opensource.com | Observations from 2013 NSA Open Source Industry Day | opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/fon7p ] | Sep 24 13:10 |
| iophk | Now how to track down M$ astroturfers : http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/23/225459295/online-review-rigging-firms-to-pay-fines-in-yogurt-shop-sting | Sep 24 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.npr.org | Online Review-Rigging Firms To Pay Fines In Yogurt Shop Sting : The Two-Way : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/fonb0 ] | Sep 24 13:16 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382478247369666560 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382478975479857152 | Sep 24 13:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Open source hardware holds the same promise as software http://t.co/yd0IhYJtFT #openhardware #hardware #opensource #sharing | Sep 24 13:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opensource.com | Open source hardware holds the same promise as software | opensource.com | Sep 24 13:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Linux Foundation on the Foundations of Linux http://t.co/2AZDkkxMx3 #linux #kernel revisionism by omission http://t.co/UnrdBInjM9 | Sep 24 13:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blogs.computerworlduk.com | Linux Foundation on the Foundations of Linux - Open Enterprise | Sep 24 13:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | The Linux Foundation’s Big Lie: ‘Linux’ is 22 Years Old | Techrights | Sep 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3101699 | Sep 24 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So, Linus Torvalds: Did US spooks demand a backdoor in Linux? 'Yes' http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/19/linux_backdoor_intrigue/ http://techrights.org/2013/09/20/linux-backdoor-question/ | Sep 24 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | So, Linus Torvalds: Did US spooks demand a backdoor in Linux? 'Yes' • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fonep ] | Sep 24 13:25 |
| schestowitz_mob | "How could a back door be put in the kernel (other than through a binary blob)? It could be done in theory but wouldn't work in practice." | Sep 24 13:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Linus Torvalds Dodges Question About Requests for NSA Backdoor in Linux | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/foneq ] | Sep 24 13:25 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz_mob: legally linus could not answer. | Sep 24 13:26 |
| iophk | Could that be a reason that blobs have persisted so long and not been replaced with F/OSS ? | Sep 24 13:27 |
| oiaohm | Unlikely. | Sep 24 13:27 |
| oiaohm | iophk: remember blobs are platform limited inside Linux kernel. | Sep 24 13:27 |
| iophk | Some vendors have resisted very strenuously and persist in pushing blobs | Sep 24 13:27 |
| oiaohm | iophk: some cases is very valid. | Sep 24 13:28 |
| iophk | even if it would be easier and better quality to switch to F/OSS | Sep 24 13:28 |
| oiaohm | iophk: some embed chips are programable fpga. | Sep 24 13:28 |
| oiaohm | iophk: and program wrong burn out complete system. | Sep 24 13:28 |
| oiaohm | iophk: yes some of the low level hardware stuff you don't want random parties playing with. | Sep 24 13:29 |
| oiaohm | iophk: bigger question what is in intel huge blobs that sections run in system management mode. | Sep 24 13:29 |
| iophk | Seems inconvenient still | Sep 24 13:30 |
| oiaohm | iophk: you are a hardware maker and there is a chance of parts being returned broken are you going to want to give over the source code. | Sep 24 13:30 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382481362168872960 | Sep 24 13:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Filming #police https://t.co/iSCJSCAuBq | Sep 24 13:30 |
| oiaohm | iophk: and with some of thouse fpga stuff without the compliers the source code is worthless. | Sep 24 13:31 |
| iophk | Video would be the main place I am thinking of | Sep 24 13:31 |
| oiaohm | iophk: video is a low value target for attack. | Sep 24 13:31 |
| oiaohm | iophk: and in open source drivers there is almost nothing that is not explained. | Sep 24 13:32 |
| oiaohm | iophk: intel system management mode that can monitor network cards and other things like that. | Sep 24 13:32 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I would class as a high value target. | Sep 24 13:32 |
| iophk | or the network cards themselves | Sep 24 13:33 |
| oiaohm | iophk: think how many wifi cards using fcc regulations are closed source firmware. | Sep 24 13:35 |
| oiaohm | iophk: yes I agree network cards are another area of high value. | Sep 24 13:36 |
| iophk | wifi sucks though. That is an example where the drivers are garbage | Sep 24 13:36 |
| oiaohm | garbage and light on for specs. | Sep 24 13:36 |
| oiaohm | I would think that would be a very clear sign of a area where hidding a back door would be possible. | Sep 24 13:36 |
| iophk | You can fit a cut down ssh server into a few hundred KB using drop bear. That still leaves plenty of room in the firmware for doing what it was advertised to do. | Sep 24 13:38 |
| oiaohm | iophk: remember the intel core firmware is measured in the megs. | Sep 24 13:42 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the firmware intel chips not fire upwithout. | Sep 24 13:42 |
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| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382492816502697984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382495442485125120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382496390477545472 | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: China just bought 5% of #Ukraine http://t.co/Qb30zJ0tUA sign of the times. #china | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> qz.com | China reportedly just bought 5% of Ukraine (but the Ukrainian partner denies it) – Quartz | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Government of Argentina Launches Linux Distribution http://t.co/Ly4Do6bS00 #argentina #gnu #linux | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ostatic.com | Government of Argentina Launches Linux Distribution | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: When Chrome OS & Linux Mint Collide: The Basics of Cr OS http://t.co/8nhRGp95Z6 "5 percent of the OS market share" | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.noobslab.com | When Chrome OS & Linux Mint Collide: The Basics of Cr OS - Noobs on Ubuntu, Mint and Debian, HD Wallpapers, Tutorials | Sep 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382497932387573760 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382498225481351168 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382500147097505792 | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Lightweight Ubuntu Software Center Alternative AppGrid Now Available For Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10 and 13.10 http://t.co/ozfewtneEU #ubuntu | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.webupd8.org | Lightweight Ubuntu Software Center Alternative `AppGrid` Now Available For Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10 and 13.10 ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: First Alpha for FreeBSD 10 Released http://t.co/X95nsN9qoW #freebsd #unix #bsd | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ostatic.com | First Alpha for FreeBSD 10 Released | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hewlett Packard brings Ubuntu to China http://t.co/DHTkrzLaa4 #gnu #linux #china | Sep 24 15:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> betanews.com | Hewlett Packard brings Ubuntu to China | Sep 24 15:54 |
| iophk | old - http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ0NjA | Sep 24 16:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] GNOME Playing Around With New Middle-Click Action [ http://ur1.ca/fop97 ] | Sep 24 16:07 |
| iophk | but still stupid | Sep 24 16:07 |
| iophk | THe M$ way of thinking. | Sep 24 16:07 |
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| roy_ | Apple wat | Sep 24 16:26 |
| roy_ | way | Sep 24 16:26 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ2NzY | Sep 24 17:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] NVIDIA To Begin Publishing Open GPU Documentation [ http://ur1.ca/foqam ] | Sep 24 17:36 |
| Sosumi | about time | Sep 24 17:36 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm yeah | Sep 24 17:37 |
| pookito | so, NVIDIA will finally open up its gpu? Did I read right. | Sep 24 18:08 |
| sebsebseb | pookito: or start to more it seems yeah | Sep 24 18:08 |
| pookito | sebsebseb: well, I am really shock that they decided to do that. | Sep 24 18:09 |
| pookito | Is not like they were friendly before. | Sep 24 18:09 |
| pookito | wow | Sep 24 18:09 |
| sebsebseb | well Desktop LInux is gettng more popular now | Sep 24 18:09 |
| sebsebseb | apparantly it's the future of gaming to, or according to Valve anyway | Sep 24 18:10 |
| iophk | If game performance is better on Linux, many will switch without second thought. | Sep 24 18:13 |
| iophk | old - http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/133824-valve-opengl-is-faster-than-directx-even-on-windows | Sep 24 18:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.extremetech.com | Valve: OpenGL is faster than DirectX — even on Windows | ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/9vcz2 ] | Sep 24 18:14 |
| iophk | Valve will be sticking with OpenGL. | Sep 24 18:15 |
| iophk | But once there is a big enough market, M$ immitation of OpenGL will be sidelined. | Sep 24 18:16 |
| iophk | At that point there will be nothing holding games on Windows. | Sep 24 18:16 |
| iophk | *market share | Sep 24 18:16 |
| iophk | http://www.globalresearch.ca/forces-bankruptcy-and-privatisation-of-the-city-of-detroit-law-suit-in-federal-court/5351205 | Sep 24 19:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.globalresearch.ca | Forced Bankruptcy and Privatization of the City of Detroit: Law Suit in Federal Court | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/forae ] | Sep 24 19:01 |
| pookito | iophk: As long as there are open standards, I don't mind. free software all the way. | Sep 24 19:01 |
| iophk | Yes, open standards are the key. | Sep 24 19:02 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3103060 | Sep 24 19:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android/Linux Not Far From 90% Market Share and Why It’s Good News http://techrights.org/2013/09/24/pack-of-linux-backers/ #android #linux | Sep 24 19:02 |
| roy_ | "I don't think a 90% Android market share is good. There needs to be more competition." | Sep 24 19:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Android/Linux Not Far From 90% Market Share and Why It’s Good News | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fopza ] | Sep 24 19:02 |
| roy_ | iophk: there has been a smear campaign against OpenGL for years | Sep 24 19:02 |
| roy_ | it has been effective | Sep 24 19:02 |
| roy_ | Many thought OpenGL was a lost cause vs DX | Sep 24 19:02 |
| pookito | I have noticed that diaspora does not display well with rekonq | Sep 24 19:03 |
| iophk | OpenGL had the lead initially because M$ had nothing. | Sep 24 19:03 |
| iophk | Now even the smear campaign is losing strength | Sep 24 19:03 |
| iophk | Can't hid the facts forever that OpenGL beats DX | Sep 24 19:03 |
| pookito | Iophk: but I thought M$ was dominating the market in windows, am I wrong? | Sep 24 19:03 |
| iophk | In Windows OpenGL is available | Sep 24 19:04 |
| iophk | Once games move back to OpenGL, they can *easily* leave Windows for Linux | Sep 24 19:04 |
| iophk | And with better performance on Linux, the high end gamers will jump in a flash. | Sep 24 19:05 |
| Sosumi | drpizza is with arstechnica | Sep 24 19:09 |
| Sosumi | is he Peter Bright? | Sep 24 19:09 |
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| MinceR | 191348 <@iophk> If game performance is better on Linux, many will switch without second thought. | Sep 24 19:57 |
| MinceR | there were at least some cases in which it was already better | Sep 24 19:57 |
| MinceR | ages ago | Sep 24 19:57 |
| iophk | Yes, but now there is more awareness, I think. | Sep 24 19:58 |
| iophk | Steam is fighting back. | Sep 24 19:58 |
| iophk | Valv | Sep 24 19:58 |
| MinceR | e | Sep 24 19:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 24 19:58 |
| iophk | I'll buy that vowel please | Sep 24 19:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 24 19:58 |
| iophk | The SteamBox is getting some attention. | Sep 24 19:59 |
| iophk | I think it might also be getting attention that PS4 is on a FreeBSD derivative or something like that. | Sep 24 19:59 |
| iophk | https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=steambox | Sep 24 20:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | encrypted.google.com | steambox - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/fos2q ] | Sep 24 20:01 |
| iophk | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM5NDI | Sep 24 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Sony's PlayStation 4 Is Running Modified FreeBSD 9 [ http://ur1.ca/efqz2 ] | Sep 24 20:04 |
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| iophk | A city milked by MBAs | Sep 24 20:11 |
| iophk | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/19/detroit-bankruptcy-citizens-hearing/2839913/ | Sep 24 20:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.usatoday.com | Citizen objectors to Detroit bankruptcy get day in court [ http://ur1.ca/fos88 ] | Sep 24 20:12 |
| _Goblin | Hello all.......... | Sep 24 20:22 |
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| sebsebseb | _Goblin: hi | Sep 24 20:25 |
| _Goblin | :) | Sep 24 20:35 |
| _Goblin | brb reboot | Sep 24 20:36 |
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| roy_ | Sosumi: yes, he was hanging out here for years | Sep 24 21:37 |
| roy_ | not here atm | Sep 24 21:37 |
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| MinceR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY | Sep 24 22:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Three things you (probably) don't know about islam - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fotq1 ] | Sep 24 22:01 |
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| MinceR | gn | Sep 24 23:00 |
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| DaemonFC | Seems to me that a "$2000 car" in 2005 would be a "$3500 car" in 2013. | Sep 23 22:54 |
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| MinceR | http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/09/spy-agencies-are-doing-what.html | Sep 24 01:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtonsblog.com | Spy Agencies Are Doing WHAT? | Washington's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/foiyq ] | Sep 24 01:39 |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382401684875788288 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382402080419622912 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382402378664001536 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382402730503180288 | Sep 24 03:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "The government is spying on essentially everything we do." http://t.co/DCXfE3oDGS | Sep 24 03:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: "Elop had a $25M personal bonus clause from the Nokia Board if he was able to sell the handset unit to Microsoft" http://t.co/9IeHegq64k | Sep 24 03:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: British school switches students' computers to Linux, reducing costs and improving computing knowledge https://t.co/wzJnt9eZg1 #uk | Sep 24 03:20 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382402955024285696 | Sep 24 03:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> joinup.ec.europa.eu | British school switches students' computers to Linux, reducing costs and improving computing knowledge | Joinup | Sep 24 03:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Link Rot and the US Supreme Court http://t.co/ki3nMIt1Nb because running domain+site not cheap | Sep 24 03:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: The MAFIAA is abusing children's minds, at taxpayers' expense http://t.co/gmdBLa1UFz | Sep 24 03:20 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382402955024285696 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382403390246227968 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382403497339416576 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382403732182671360 | Sep 24 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: What if Verizon succeeds in killing the Internet? http://t.co/gVlMaN4oha #verizon #netneutrality | Sep 24 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.infoworld.com | What if Verizon succeeds in killing the Internet? | Data Center - InfoWorld | Sep 24 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Mega Relives Megaupload Fame, Overtakes RapidShare http://t.co/d6ZEyKXuWb quick growth. #mega #sharing #storage | Sep 24 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> torrentfreak.com | Mega Relives Megaupload Fame, Overtakes RapidShare | TorrentFreak | Sep 24 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Valve announces Linux-based SteamOS as basis for living room #gaming http://t.co/OvVEXw5ekL #gnu #linux | Sep 24 03:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> arstechnica.com | Valve announces Linux-based SteamOS as basis for living room gaming | Ars Technica | Sep 24 03:21 |
| JimmyCarter | SteamOS sounds sweet, i want it already | Sep 24 03:24 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSJqBJ1TF-E | Sep 24 03:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Apple iOS 7 iPhone 5S Commercial - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fok7i ] | Sep 24 03:34 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3097702 | Sep 24 03:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: iOS 7 http://i.imgur.com/S1Lir8d.jpg | Sep 24 03:34 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3097669 | Sep 24 03:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: SUSE Drops #LibreOffice Backing | Sep 24 03:34 |
| schestowitz_mob | "Another thing to know, Novell is closed to Microsoft (particularly since 2006) And Microsoft Office and LibrOffice are contradictory. Microsoft wants to have another foot in FreeWorld with integration of MsOffice in Linux. Suse Drops LibreOffice ? Maybe Suse purpose MsOffice Integration ... (argh !)" | Sep 24 03:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | SUSE Drops LibreOffice Backing | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fok7y ] | Sep 24 03:34 |
| schestowitz_mob | "I would think there will come a time when Microsoft will have to bite the bullet and offer Microsoft Office for GNU/Linux. No?" | Sep 24 03:35 |
| schestowitz_mob | "even if they offer it, I don't want it ....." | Sep 24 03:35 |
| schestowitz_mob | "I wouldn't either. But for a friend I know who wants to switch to GNU/Linux but "can't because it doesn't have Office" is a friend who I will happily provide information to on how to acquire the software. Hell, it's one of those rare cases where I'd be tempted to pay Microsoft for the software, and I'd buy Office for my friend (under the condition of moving from Windows or MacOS to GNU/Linux). Then again, I think th | Sep 24 03:36 |
| schestowitz_mob | at making an unauthorized copy of Office and sharing that with my friend is the more ethical choice which I would choose if I could (there are probably bittorrents of Office out there?). That way I'd minimize the bad parts of the decision to help a friend acquire and use proprietary software." | Sep 24 03:36 |
| schestowitz_mob | "Anything backed by Microsoft will end this way. They constantly build branches to inject poison and then saw them off. Groklaw published the Microsoft/Novel Open Office "compatibility" contracts which clearly limited the function of Open Office to failing silently in several important ways. Microsoft never wants anything to actually work with their office formats and will sue or otherwise destroy any project that ac | Sep 24 03:37 |
| schestowitz_mob | hieves this. Libre Office is the end product of the Microsoft/Novell cooperation and it has injected OOXML code into most GNU/Linux distros. It works just well enough to keep people from outright rejecting OOXML documents but it opens up distributions to nasty patent lawsuits in almost the same way Mono would have if anyone had used it." | Sep 24 03:37 |
| schestowitz_mob | It's just Go-OO again, but Oracle (of CPTN, MS deals, anti-Android complaints, Apple admiration) that forced some community members into it in 2010 | Sep 24 03:38 |
| schestowitz_mob | "That's really sad, I know there were SUSE people working on the HTML5 implementation of LibreOffice. I wonder if that's why we haven't heard much about it since their announcement in March that a roadmap would be coming in April... never did get that roadmap did we?" | Sep 24 03:38 |
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| iophk | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/metadata_equals.html | Sep 24 04:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: Metadata Equals Surveillance [ http://ur1.ca/foklo ] | Sep 24 04:08 |
| MinceR | r4wr | Sep 24 04:18 |
| JimmyCarter | any famous bloggers wanna write about my open source software? | Sep 24 05:13 |
| iophk | http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/fedora-linux-turns-10-whats-next.html | Sep 24 05:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.eweek.com | Fedora Linux Turns 10: What's Next? [ http://ur1.ca/folg3 ] | Sep 24 05:32 |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382410133059698689 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382410840861061120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382412974646116352 | Sep 24 05:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Forbes Calls Goldman CEO Holier Than Mother Teresa http://t.co/4aXN3xmuHl that's what Forbes has been for - glorifying thieves | Sep 24 05:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.rollingstone.com | Forbes Calls Goldman CEO Lloyd Blankfein Holier Than Mother Teresa | Matt Taibbi | Rolling Stone | Sep 24 05:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: FIVE YEARS AFTER LEHMANS: DID WE LEARN ANYTHING? http://t.co/vaA7hn7zJi "Obama administrations capture by Goldman" | Sep 24 05:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.economonitor.com | EconoMonitor : Great Leap Forward FIVE YEARS AFTER LEHMANS: DID WE LEARN ANYTHING? | Sep 24 05:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: How Does Left 4 Dead 2 Perform On Ubuntu 13.04 Compared To Windows 8? http://t.co/ewuxDYIPeZ #vista8 #gnu #linux | Sep 24 05:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gamingonlinux.com | GamingOnLinux - How Does Left 4 Dead 2 Perform On Ubuntu 13.04 Compared To Windows 8? | Sep 24 05:53 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382442797162188800 | Sep 24 05:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: First impressions of ArchBang Linux 2013.09.01 http://t.co/8RQnAg2z5C 'few features and no bugs." #linux #gnu | Sep 24 05:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Sep 24 05:54 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382412974646116352 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382414086266712064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382414234795401216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382415325943590912 | Sep 24 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Valve Has Announced The SteamOS Built On #Linux http://t.co/bkVh1jD1YE http://t.co/p0JuPCLFfH http://t.co/Jhrzp6xFy4 | Sep 24 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gamingonlinux.com | GamingOnLinux - Valve Has Announced The SteamOS Built On Linux UPDATED | Sep 24 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> metro.co.uk | Valve promises three announcements this week SteamBox and more? | Metro News | Sep 24 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | Calm Down, Internet -- Valve Isn't Building Their Own Steam Box - Forbes | Sep 24 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: iRacing Adds Linux to Existing MAC and PC Platforms http://t.co/P0f5uRQ7YK http://t.co/wrYTaUSkgj #gnu #linux | Sep 24 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.sacbee.com | iRacing Adds Linux to Existing MAC and PC Platforms - PR Newswire - The Sacramento Bee | Sep 24 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.gamasutra.com | Gamasutra - Press Releases - PixelJunk Monsters Ultimate coming to Mac and Linux on September 30th! | Sep 24 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Red Hat: Big bucks, big Linux http://t.co/LVznXDElmm http://t.co/eowlVLSLEh http://t.co/klse8nZiud | Sep 24 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.zdnet.com | Red Hat: Big bucks, big Linux | ZDNet | Sep 24 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | Earnings Increase Expected for Red Hat (RHT) - Forbes | Sep 24 05:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.newsobserver.com | Red Hat's quarterly results beat Wall Street forecasts | Technology | NewsObserver.com | Sep 24 05:55 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382421244911820800 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382422186201739264 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382422485020725248 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382422727216627712 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382423922631004160 | Sep 24 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Microsoft Kill Shots: How IBM/Linux Deals the Latest Blow to Redmond Empire http://t.co/MgZcsgpq5G to prioritise free s/w | Sep 24 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.forbes.com | Microsoft Kill Shots: How IBM/Linux Deals the Latest Blow to Redmond Empire - Forbes | Sep 24 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Linux rootkit detector adds hardware punch to security scanning http://t.co/ef5bFkKCUO for the ultra-paranoid | Sep 24 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> gcn.com | Linux rootkit detector adds hardware punch to security scanning -- GCN | Sep 24 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Mozilla Resets for Firefox 25 and 26 http://t.co/qAYPRq0LnC #mozilla #firefox | Sep 24 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.eweek.com | Mozilla Resets for Firefox 25 and 26 | Sep 24 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Fedora Linux Turns 10: What's Next? http://t.co/qwbzd7lHv5 how time flies. 19 releases. | Sep 24 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.eweek.com | Fedora Linux Turns 10: What's Next? | Sep 24 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Managing the Transition to High-Availability Linux for Mission-Critical Workloads http://t.co/5mxHNIoZKY #linux #gnu #ha | Sep 24 05:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.linux.com | Managing the Transition to High-Availability Linux for Mission-Critical Workloads | Linux.com | Sep 24 05:57 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382443818840514560 | Sep 24 05:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Metadata Equals #Surveillance https://t.co/ItntZo9pkI | Sep 24 05:59 |
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| iophk | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2049255/valve-announces-steamos-an-operating-system-built-for-the-living-room.html | Sep 24 06:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.pcworld.com | Valve announces SteamOS, an operating system built for the living room | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/fom2h ] | Sep 24 06:35 |
| iophk | So, Linux is in the phone, the tv, the pvr, the tablet, the servers, and the supercomputers. Now it's heading into the game consoles. | Sep 24 06:35 |
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| oiaohm | iophk: SteamOS is also a thin client off a PC. | Sep 24 06:52 |
| iophk | I thought it was standalone. | Sep 24 06:52 |
| oiaohm | iophk: SteamOS runs standalone for Linux games. | Sep 24 06:52 |
| oiaohm | iophk: but it can run Windows steam games thin client method. | Sep 24 06:53 |
| iophk | http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/valve-steam-box-release-date-news-and-features-1127072 | Sep 24 06:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techradar.com | Valve Steam Box release date, news and features | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/fom8k ] | Sep 24 06:53 |
| iophk | Would that thin client be accessing a server far away over the Internet? | Sep 24 06:53 |
| oiaohm | iophk: too much lag doing that. | Sep 24 06:53 |
| iophk | That's what I expected. Where would the server for the thin client be then | Sep 24 06:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: note the in-home streaming on that link. | Sep 24 06:54 |
| oiaohm | iophk: valve calls thinclient | Sep 24 06:55 |
| oiaohm | iophk: "in-home streaming" | Sep 24 06:55 |
| oiaohm | Now big question will valve allow many games to be running at once on 1 Windows/OS X machine going to many steam boxes. | Sep 24 06:55 |
| oiaohm | Also I wish valve will do in-home streaming from steambox back to Windows, Linux and OS X. | Sep 24 06:58 |
| iophk | Yes, streaming from Steambox would make a lot of sense. | Sep 24 07:00 |
| oiaohm | iophk: note the streaming is game streaming. | Sep 24 07:01 |
| iophk | It would be simpler for them to focus on that one platform rather than fight Windows (which is what Windows programming turns into anyway) | Sep 24 07:01 |
| iophk | Yes the game runs on the remote devices, if the hints are as I think they are. | Sep 24 07:01 |
| oiaohm | I really do like what SteamOS is planing. | Sep 24 07:01 |
| oiaohm | So now PC games head to head with console games. | Sep 24 07:01 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the big thing valve as not said is if they will allow one windows PC or OS X machine to serve up many games. | Sep 24 07:02 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I know how I could get a OS X to serve up many. | Sep 24 07:03 |
| iophk | I guess that would be of use in a house where several kids play games at the same time. | Sep 24 07:03 |
| oiaohm | thin client in the house as normal has to be MS worst nightmare because when people go to work they will think thin is normal. | Sep 24 07:03 |
| iophk | If there is one device per kid. | Sep 24 07:03 |
| iophk | Streaming to Android was mentioned, so some of the play could occur on the tablet or phone. | Sep 24 07:04 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I have a android set top box. | Sep 24 07:08 |
| iophk | pvr / dvr ? | Sep 24 07:08 |
| oiaohm | iophk: dvr | Sep 24 07:09 |
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| iophk | http://opensource.com/government/13/9/nsa-open-source | Sep 24 08:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | opensource.com | Observations from 2013 NSA Open Source Industry Day | opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/fon7p ] | Sep 24 08:10 |
| iophk | Now how to track down M$ astroturfers : http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/09/23/225459295/online-review-rigging-firms-to-pay-fines-in-yogurt-shop-sting | Sep 24 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.npr.org | Online Review-Rigging Firms To Pay Fines In Yogurt Shop Sting : The Two-Way : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/fonb0 ] | Sep 24 08:16 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382478247369666560 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382478975479857152 | Sep 24 08:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Open source hardware holds the same promise as software http://t.co/yd0IhYJtFT #openhardware #hardware #opensource #sharing | Sep 24 08:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> opensource.com | Open source hardware holds the same promise as software | opensource.com | Sep 24 08:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Linux Foundation on the Foundations of Linux http://t.co/2AZDkkxMx3 #linux #kernel revisionism by omission http://t.co/UnrdBInjM9 | Sep 24 08:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> blogs.computerworlduk.com | Linux Foundation on the Foundations of Linux - Open Enterprise | Sep 24 08:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | The Linux Foundations Big Lie: Linux is 22 Years Old | Techrights | Sep 24 08:22 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3101699 | Sep 24 08:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So, Linus Torvalds: Did US spooks demand a backdoor in Linux? 'Yes' http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/19/linux_backdoor_intrigue/ http://techrights.org/2013/09/20/linux-backdoor-question/ | Sep 24 08:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theregister.co.uk | So, Linus Torvalds: Did US spooks demand a backdoor in Linux? 'Yes' The Register [ http://ur1.ca/fonep ] | Sep 24 08:25 |
| schestowitz_mob | "How could a back door be put in the kernel (other than through a binary blob)? It could be done in theory but wouldn't work in practice." | Sep 24 08:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Linus Torvalds Dodges Question About Requests for NSA Backdoor in Linux | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/foneq ] | Sep 24 08:25 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz_mob: legally linus could not answer. | Sep 24 08:26 |
| iophk | Could that be a reason that blobs have persisted so long and not been replaced with F/OSS ? | Sep 24 08:27 |
| oiaohm | Unlikely. | Sep 24 08:27 |
| oiaohm | iophk: remember blobs are platform limited inside Linux kernel. | Sep 24 08:27 |
| iophk | Some vendors have resisted very strenuously and persist in pushing blobs | Sep 24 08:27 |
| oiaohm | iophk: some cases is very valid. | Sep 24 08:28 |
| iophk | even if it would be easier and better quality to switch to F/OSS | Sep 24 08:28 |
| oiaohm | iophk: some embed chips are programable fpga. | Sep 24 08:28 |
| oiaohm | iophk: and program wrong burn out complete system. | Sep 24 08:28 |
| oiaohm | iophk: yes some of the low level hardware stuff you don't want random parties playing with. | Sep 24 08:29 |
| oiaohm | iophk: bigger question what is in intel huge blobs that sections run in system management mode. | Sep 24 08:29 |
| iophk | Seems inconvenient still | Sep 24 08:30 |
| oiaohm | iophk: you are a hardware maker and there is a chance of parts being returned broken are you going to want to give over the source code. | Sep 24 08:30 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382481362168872960 | Sep 24 08:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Filming #police https://t.co/iSCJSCAuBq | Sep 24 08:30 |
| oiaohm | iophk: and with some of thouse fpga stuff without the compliers the source code is worthless. | Sep 24 08:31 |
| iophk | Video would be the main place I am thinking of | Sep 24 08:31 |
| oiaohm | iophk: video is a low value target for attack. | Sep 24 08:31 |
| oiaohm | iophk: and in open source drivers there is almost nothing that is not explained. | Sep 24 08:32 |
| oiaohm | iophk: intel system management mode that can monitor network cards and other things like that. | Sep 24 08:32 |
| oiaohm | iophk: I would class as a high value target. | Sep 24 08:32 |
| iophk | or the network cards themselves | Sep 24 08:33 |
| oiaohm | iophk: think how many wifi cards using fcc regulations are closed source firmware. | Sep 24 08:35 |
| oiaohm | iophk: yes I agree network cards are another area of high value. | Sep 24 08:36 |
| iophk | wifi sucks though. That is an example where the drivers are garbage | Sep 24 08:36 |
| oiaohm | garbage and light on for specs. | Sep 24 08:36 |
| oiaohm | I would think that would be a very clear sign of a area where hidding a back door would be possible. | Sep 24 08:36 |
| iophk | You can fit a cut down ssh server into a few hundred KB using drop bear. That still leaves plenty of room in the firmware for doing what it was advertised to do. | Sep 24 08:38 |
| oiaohm | iophk: remember the intel core firmware is measured in the megs. | Sep 24 08:42 |
| oiaohm | iophk: the firmware intel chips not fire upwithout. | Sep 24 08:42 |
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| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382492816502697984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382495442485125120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382496390477545472 | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: China just bought 5% of #Ukraine http://t.co/Qb30zJ0tUA sign of the times. #china | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> qz.com | China reportedly just bought 5% of Ukraine (but the Ukrainian partner denies it) Quartz | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Government of Argentina Launches Linux Distribution http://t.co/Ly4Do6bS00 #argentina #gnu #linux | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ostatic.com | Government of Argentina Launches Linux Distribution | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: When Chrome OS & Linux Mint Collide: The Basics of Cr OS http://t.co/8nhRGp95Z6 "5 percent of the OS market share" | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.noobslab.com | When Chrome OS & Linux Mint Collide: The Basics of Cr OS - Noobs on Ubuntu, Mint and Debian, HD Wallpapers, Tutorials | Sep 24 10:54 |
| schestowitz_mob | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382497932387573760 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382498225481351168 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/382500147097505792 | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Lightweight Ubuntu Software Center Alternative AppGrid Now Available For Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10 and 13.10 http://t.co/ozfewtneEU #ubuntu | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.webupd8.org | Lightweight Ubuntu Software Center Alternative `AppGrid` Now Available For Ubuntu 12.04, 12.10 and 13.10 ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: First Alpha for FreeBSD 10 Released http://t.co/X95nsN9qoW #freebsd #unix #bsd | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> ostatic.com | First Alpha for FreeBSD 10 Released | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: Hewlett Packard brings Ubuntu to China http://t.co/DHTkrzLaa4 #gnu #linux #china | Sep 24 10:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> betanews.com | Hewlett Packard brings Ubuntu to China | Sep 24 10:54 |
| iophk | old - http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ0NjA | Sep 24 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] GNOME Playing Around With New Middle-Click Action [ http://ur1.ca/fop97 ] | Sep 24 11:07 |
| iophk | but still stupid | Sep 24 11:07 |
| iophk | THe M$ way of thinking. | Sep 24 11:07 |
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| roy_ | Apple wat | Sep 24 11:26 |
| roy_ | way | Sep 24 11:26 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ2NzY | Sep 24 12:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] NVIDIA To Begin Publishing Open GPU Documentation [ http://ur1.ca/foqam ] | Sep 24 12:36 |
| Sosumi | about time | Sep 24 12:36 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm yeah | Sep 24 12:37 |
| pookito | so, NVIDIA will finally open up its gpu? Did I read right. | Sep 24 13:08 |
| sebsebseb | pookito: or start to more it seems yeah | Sep 24 13:08 |
| pookito | sebsebseb: well, I am really shock that they decided to do that. | Sep 24 13:09 |
| pookito | Is not like they were friendly before. | Sep 24 13:09 |
| pookito | wow | Sep 24 13:09 |
| sebsebseb | well Desktop LInux is gettng more popular now | Sep 24 13:09 |
| sebsebseb | apparantly it's the future of gaming to, or according to Valve anyway | Sep 24 13:10 |
| iophk | If game performance is better on Linux, many will switch without second thought. | Sep 24 13:13 |
| iophk | old - http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/133824-valve-opengl-is-faster-than-directx-even-on-windows | Sep 24 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.extremetech.com | Valve: OpenGL is faster than DirectX even on Windows | ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/9vcz2 ] | Sep 24 13:14 |
| iophk | Valve will be sticking with OpenGL. | Sep 24 13:15 |
| iophk | But once there is a big enough market, M$ immitation of OpenGL will be sidelined. | Sep 24 13:16 |
| iophk | At that point there will be nothing holding games on Windows. | Sep 24 13:16 |
| iophk | *market share | Sep 24 13:16 |
| iophk | http://www.globalresearch.ca/forces-bankruptcy-and-privatisation-of-the-city-of-detroit-law-suit-in-federal-court/5351205 | Sep 24 14:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.globalresearch.ca | Forced Bankruptcy and Privatization of the City of Detroit: Law Suit in Federal Court | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/forae ] | Sep 24 14:01 |
| pookito | iophk: As long as there are open standards, I don't mind. free software all the way. | Sep 24 14:01 |
| iophk | Yes, open standards are the key. | Sep 24 14:02 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3103060 | Sep 24 14:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android/Linux Not Far From 90% Market Share and Why Its Good News http://techrights.org/2013/09/24/pack-of-linux-backers/ #android #linux | Sep 24 14:02 |
| roy_ | "I don't think a 90% Android market share is good. There needs to be more competition." | Sep 24 14:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Android/Linux Not Far From 90% Market Share and Why Its Good News | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fopza ] | Sep 24 14:02 |
| roy_ | iophk: there has been a smear campaign against OpenGL for years | Sep 24 14:02 |
| roy_ | it has been effective | Sep 24 14:02 |
| roy_ | Many thought OpenGL was a lost cause vs DX | Sep 24 14:02 |
| pookito | I have noticed that diaspora does not display well with rekonq | Sep 24 14:03 |
| iophk | OpenGL had the lead initially because M$ had nothing. | Sep 24 14:03 |
| iophk | Now even the smear campaign is losing strength | Sep 24 14:03 |
| iophk | Can't hid the facts forever that OpenGL beats DX | Sep 24 14:03 |
| pookito | Iophk: but I thought M$ was dominating the market in windows, am I wrong? | Sep 24 14:03 |
| iophk | In Windows OpenGL is available | Sep 24 14:04 |
| iophk | Once games move back to OpenGL, they can *easily* leave Windows for Linux | Sep 24 14:04 |
| iophk | And with better performance on Linux, the high end gamers will jump in a flash. | Sep 24 14:05 |
| Sosumi | drpizza is with arstechnica | Sep 24 14:09 |
| Sosumi | is he Peter Bright? | Sep 24 14:09 |
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| MinceR | 191348 <@iophk> If game performance is better on Linux, many will switch without second thought. | Sep 24 14:57 |
| MinceR | there were at least some cases in which it was already better | Sep 24 14:57 |
| MinceR | ages ago | Sep 24 14:57 |
| iophk | Yes, but now there is more awareness, I think. | Sep 24 14:58 |
| iophk | Steam is fighting back. | Sep 24 14:58 |
| iophk | Valv | Sep 24 14:58 |
| MinceR | e | Sep 24 14:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 24 14:58 |
| iophk | I'll buy that vowel please | Sep 24 14:58 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 24 14:58 |
| iophk | The SteamBox is getting some attention. | Sep 24 14:59 |
| iophk | I think it might also be getting attention that PS4 is on a FreeBSD derivative or something like that. | Sep 24 14:59 |
| iophk | https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=steambox | Sep 24 15:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | encrypted.google.com | steambox - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/fos2q ] | Sep 24 15:01 |
| iophk | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM5NDI | Sep 24 15:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Sony's PlayStation 4 Is Running Modified FreeBSD 9 [ http://ur1.ca/efqz2 ] | Sep 24 15:04 |
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| iophk | A city milked by MBAs | Sep 24 15:11 |
| iophk | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/19/detroit-bankruptcy-citizens-hearing/2839913/ | Sep 24 15:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.usatoday.com | Citizen objectors to Detroit bankruptcy get day in court [ http://ur1.ca/fos88 ] | Sep 24 15:12 |
| _Goblin | Hello all.......... | Sep 24 15:22 |
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| sebsebseb | _Goblin: hi | Sep 24 15:25 |
| _Goblin | :) | Sep 24 15:35 |
| _Goblin | brb reboot | Sep 24 15:36 |
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| roy_ | not here atm | Sep 24 16:37 |
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| DaemonFC | I can't believe how hard it is to find a used car in good shape for a reasonable price. | Sep 24 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | Never had this much trouble. | Sep 24 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You'd think that a Ford Taurus or Crown Vic would be easy. | Sep 24 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | You used to find them everywhere. | Sep 24 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Right now there's like almost nothing on the market in the area that I'd want to buy. | Sep 24 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | The closest thing to a deal I've seen all week is a 1999 Chevrolet Malibu LS. | Sep 24 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | '99 was an odd year for that car. They actually had a mid-year production change, so there are two 3.1 liter V6 engines that you could end up with. | Sep 24 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | One is slightly more powerful than the other even though they're the same displacement. | Sep 24 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Sep 24 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | I'd have to figure out which engine is in that car before I made an offer. | Sep 24 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be willing to pay a little more if it's the better engine. | Sep 24 20:44 |
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