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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3355333Dec 01 02:27
schestowitz"If both companies are going to lock down their hardware to make it virtually impossible to run Free Software, I find this competitiveness to be pretty trite."Dec 01 02:27
schestowitz"we should all be scared to loose control over our computing"Dec 01 02:27
schestowitz"Sometimes I wonder what is [or was] worse - Microsoft or Google [or Apple, perhaps]?"Dec 01 02:27
schestowitz"Google is the worst. The other two, while using GNU/Linux, you are safe (most of the time)"Dec 01 02:28
schestowitz"Google is using free software, contributing to free software and still, for the most part, leaves the devices unlocked when they brand it. Microsoft's plans leave no such wiggle room and never have. We will be much better off without UEFI, ACPI and other abominations they dream up to thwart us."Dec 01 02:28
schestowitz"Oh yes, like the XMPP federation with hangouts."Dec 01 02:28
schestowitz"You're generally right, Will. I don't use UEFI and only use ACPI because I have to [hibernation is sometimes just more convenient than shutting down your system completely. And yes - I know that the systems goes up in like a second when you're on systemd init subsystem, but I dislike systemd for now, so I have no choice]. Also, as I said, I still use regular MBR setup without this sick UEFI stuff. I tried it, but it sucked and WindowsDec 01 02:28
schestowitzhijacked my PC all for itself, as it didn't want to allow me to go to my LILO bootloader. Hated it SO MUCH. Had to remove Windows completely, even though I generally ditched Windows 10 years ago."Dec 01 02:28
schestowitz"quick question. What is the big benefit of UEFI?"Dec 01 02:29
schestowitzMaybe network booting, but this is not useful to most desktop users and the harms outweigh the benefits for most people (except Intel shareholders and Microsoft vultures)Dec 01 02:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3355323Dec 01 02:30
schestowitz"You need a dog. They'll choke down broccoli, if they see you eating it."Dec 01 02:30
schestowitz"Used to have a cat who loved salmon. He came nosing around while we were eating take-out sushi one night. Got hisself a nose-dab of wasabi. As I recall, he repeated the begging one other time, same treatment. He never begged again. Though I'd treat him to a sample of the fish afterwards. Which he deserved as he was a truly awesome cat (now off to the great kitty afterlife and/or entropic pool).'Dec 01 02:31
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schestowitzhttp://www.moneyextra.com/savings/Dec 01 06:20
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schestowitzOut interest rates will soon drop from 2% to around 1%, unless weDec 01 06:20
schestowitzchange bank, which we should. We need to choose...Dec 01 06:20
schestowitzhttp://www.nationwide.co.uk/savings/fixed_term/fixedratebonds/summary-5-year-fixedratebond-monthly.htmDec 01 06:20
schestowitzhttp://www.money.co.uk/savings-accounts.htmDec 01 06:21
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schestowitz>>> It'd be good to hold him to that but he's not having any of it.  IDec 03 10:23
schestowitz>>> suspect that he is the kind that won't back down for fear of having toDec 03 10:23
schestowitz>>> admit to a mistake.  No one is trying to force him to admit anything,Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>>> just switch to a Free distro.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>> Deep inside he feels a little 'dirty' about it. At least he admits that.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz> That's a step.  I think we have a partial explanation here:Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz> (10:24:39 PM) MinceR: opensuse hates your freedomDec 03 10:24
schestowitz> (10:24:51 PM) msb_: A beautiful German girl gave me herDec 03 10:24
schestowitz> Suse cap a decade ago at the West Coast Computer Faire.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz> He's smitten with a booth babe.  When the hat wears out or is lost, heDec 03 10:24
schestowitz> can move on.  Seriously, Suse was not a problem back then but he's inDec 03 10:24
schestowitz> denial about it changing from out from under him.  Distros change, itDec 03 10:24
schestowitz> happened to Ubuntu even despite a good start.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>>> PS.  How was the visit with RMS?Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>> RMS has mailed me a lot since then. We spoke for 2.5 hours, it was veryDec 03 10:24
schestowitz>> laid back. I also brought him with the tea to the auditorium.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz> Awesome.  Has his talk at the auditorium been put online?Dec 03 10:24
schestowitzThe person who sat next to me recorded it (audio) with good gear. I grabbed some video segments during the talk and checked out the results with my wife the other day. My finger sort of botched some videos (on top of his head), so I can release some as audio only.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitzMaybe I should have recorded more of our chats. We covered a lot including Jolla, but it was off the record and informal.Dec 03 10:24
MinceRi ascribed it to cognitive dissonanceDec 03 10:44
MinceRthat might last longer than a capDec 03 10:44
schestowitz"Dec 03 10:56
schestowitzHi Mark,Dec 03 10:56
schestowitzI didn't tell RMS about any of our clients, I only said that the British government is starting to adopt more Free software. We chatted for 2.5 hours in person and since then we've been exchanging about half a dozen emails per day. His talk in Lincoln was excellent and well attended.Dec 03 10:56
schestowitzHe is trying to convince the academics there to only use Free software and to only ever use proprietary software for reverse-engineering projects (student projects).Dec 03 10:56
schestowitzOver the next few months I will edit and publish some videos that we recorded.Dec 03 10:56
schestowitz"Dec 03 10:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3368119Dec 03 22:55
TechBytesBot@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People who photograph themselves in front of mirrors holding phone are not impressing anyone;if anything,may lack friends to photograph themDec 03 22:55
schestowitz"You know, that might be true. Got to think more about that."Dec 03 22:55
schestowitz"He said stories in publications including the Guardian, the New York Times, the Washington Post and Der Spiegel had prompted much-needed debate about the scale of intelligence activities and exposed the limits of laws drawn up in the pre-internet era."Dec 03 23:16
schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25205846Dec 03 23:16
TechBytesBotwww.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Only 1% of Snowden files published - Guardian editorDec 03 23:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_416462f4a3a594bc8e60.jpgDec 03 23:22
schestowitzWife and I watched Big Buck Bunny for the 5th time today..Dec 03 23:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408006924593299457  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408009622461898752  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408011027708928002 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408011127478824960  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408012374558662656Dec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot@schestowitz: Linux Is the Only Way to Protect Against Potential Sound-Transmitted Malware http://t.co/kOVmBLzGET #linux #securityDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot-> news.softpedia.com | Linux Is the Only Way to Protect Against Potential Sound-Transmitted MalwareDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot@schestowitz: At Some Other Berkeley http://t.co/iWcDCxi2ay private education and crushing of protestsDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot-> jacobinmag.com | At Some Other Berkeley | JacobinDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot@schestowitz: Dam [sic] amazing https://t.co/BuJUBqDEPYDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot@schestowitz: 99& to go http://t.co/MYLrsQrlrSDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot@schestowitz: British burned, dumped ‘embarrassing’ colonial documents http://t.co/9UvNQEMkLK #uk #historyDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot-> www.japantimes.co.jp | British burned, dumped 'embarrassing' colonial documents | The Japan TimesDec 03 23:25
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3376408Dec 05 21:04
TechBytesBot@linux@joindiaspora.com reshared: How?Dec 05 21:04
schestowitz__"It's probobly Russia. Russian people are indestructible and they run on vodka all the time [as you can probobly see]. [end of joke]."Dec 05 21:04
schestowitz__http://archive09.linux.com/feature/147172?theme=printDec 05 21:37
TechBytesBotarchive09.linux.com | Linux.com :: Michael Larabel talks about Phoronix  [ http://ur1.ca/g5ez6 ]Dec 05 21:37
schestowitz__http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQxNTIDec 05 21:40
TechBytesBotwww.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Another Linux Site Shuts Down  [ http://ur1.ca/g5ezj ]Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__"Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__Our friends at The H have decided to close up shop. The Linux and open-source publication owned by Heise is no more.Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__The H had been providing open-source and Linux articles for the past half-decade, but now this is another Linux site that's closing its doors. Similar to other enthusiast-oriented sites that have vanished, they basically shutdown for lack of profitability.Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__In their closing message they note, "it has not been possible to effectively monetise that traffic to produce a working business model."Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__Having been running Phoronix for the past nine years, I'm very well aware of the difficulties in running a Linux-oriented site especially when it comes to dealing with monetization. Many companies aren't interested in advertising on Linux enthusiasts sites as it's a rather small niche, and then on Linux there's an abundance of people using AdBlock, etc, that do much damage to the publisher.Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__"Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__writing an article about himself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux.comDec 05 21:41
TechBytesBoten.wikipedia.org | Linux.com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 05 21:41
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3374512Dec 07 07:42
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3355333Dec 01 02:26
schestowitz"If both companies are going to lock down their hardware to make it virtually impossible to run Free Software, I find this competitiveness to be pretty trite."Dec 01 02:27
schestowitz"we should all be scared to loose control over our computing"Dec 01 02:27
schestowitz"Sometimes I wonder what is [or was] worse - Microsoft or Google [or Apple, perhaps]?"Dec 01 02:27
schestowitz"Google is the worst. The other two, while using GNU/Linux, you are safe (most of the time)"Dec 01 02:27
schestowitz"Google is using free software, contributing to free software and still, for the most part, leaves the devices unlocked when they brand it. Microsoft's plans leave no such wiggle room and never have. We will be much better off without UEFI, ACPI and other abominations they dream up to thwart us."Dec 01 02:27
schestowitz"Oh yes, like the XMPP federation with hangouts."Dec 01 02:27
schestowitz"You're generally right, Will. I don't use UEFI and only use ACPI because I have to [hibernation is sometimes just more convenient than shutting down your system completely. And yes - I know that the systems goes up in like a second when you're on systemd init subsystem, but I dislike systemd for now, so I have no choice]. Also, as I said, I still use regular MBR setup without this sick UEFI stuff. I tried it, but it sucked and WindowsDec 01 02:28
schestowitzhijacked my PC all for itself, as it didn't want to allow me to go to my LILO bootloader. Hated it SO MUCH. Had to remove Windows completely, even though I generally ditched Windows 10 years ago."Dec 01 02:28
schestowitz"quick question. What is the big benefit of UEFI?"Dec 01 02:28
schestowitzMaybe network booting, but this is not useful to most desktop users and the harms outweigh the benefits for most people (except Intel shareholders and Microsoft vultures)Dec 01 02:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3355323Dec 01 02:30
schestowitz"You need a dog. They'll choke down broccoli, if they see you eating it."Dec 01 02:30
schestowitz"Used to have a cat who loved salmon. He came nosing around while we were eating take-out sushi one night. Got hisself a nose-dab of wasabi. As I recall, he repeated the begging one other time, same treatment. He never begged again. Though I'd treat him to a sample of the fish afterwards. Which he deserved as he was a truly awesome cat (now off to the great kitty afterlife and/or entropic pool).'Dec 01 02:30
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schestowitzhttp://www.moneyextra.com/savings/Dec 01 06:20
TechBytesBotwww.moneyextra.com | Best savings accounts for UK fixed best savings rates ISA Notice bondsDec 01 06:20
schestowitzOut interest rates will soon drop from 2% to around 1%, unless weDec 01 06:20
schestowitzchange bank, which we should. We need to choose...Dec 01 06:20
schestowitzhttp://www.nationwide.co.uk/savings/fixed_term/fixedratebonds/summary-5-year-fixedratebond-monthly.htmDec 01 06:20
schestowitzhttp://www.money.co.uk/savings-accounts.htmDec 01 06:20
TechBytesBotwww.nationwide.co.uk | 5 Year Fixed Rate Bond (Monthly Interest) - savings interest rates and account details from Nationwide Building Society  [ http://ur1.ca/g4i9i ]Dec 01 06:20
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schestowitzhttp://www.moneysupermarket.com/savings/Dec 01 06:20
schestowitzhttp://www.moneyextra.com/savings/Dec 01 06:20
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schestowitz>>> It'd be good to hold him to that but he's not having any of it.  IDec 03 10:23
schestowitz>>> suspect that he is the kind that won't back down for fear of having toDec 03 10:23
schestowitz>>> admit to a mistake.  No one is trying to force him to admit anything,Dec 03 10:23
schestowitz>>> just switch to a Free distro.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>> Deep inside he feels a little 'dirty' about it. At least he admits that.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz> That's a step.  I think we have a partial explanation here:Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz> (10:24:39 PM) MinceR: opensuse hates your freedomDec 03 10:24
schestowitz> (10:24:51 PM) msb_: A beautiful German girl gave me herDec 03 10:24
schestowitz> Suse cap a decade ago at the West Coast Computer Faire.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz> He's smitten with a booth babe.  When the hat wears out or is lost, heDec 03 10:24
schestowitz> can move on.  Seriously, Suse was not a problem back then but he's inDec 03 10:24
schestowitz> denial about it changing from out from under him.  Distros change, itDec 03 10:24
schestowitz> happened to Ubuntu even despite a good start.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>>> PS.  How was the visit with RMS?Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>> RMS has mailed me a lot since then. We spoke for 2.5 hours, it was veryDec 03 10:24
schestowitz>> laid back. I also brought him with the tea to the auditorium.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz>Dec 03 10:24
schestowitz> Awesome.  Has his talk at the auditorium been put online?Dec 03 10:24
schestowitzThe person who sat next to me recorded it (audio) with good gear. I grabbed some video segments during the talk and checked out the results with my wife the other day. My finger sort of botched some videos (on top of his head), so I can release some as audio only.Dec 03 10:24
schestowitzMaybe I should have recorded more of our chats. We covered a lot including Jolla, but it was off the record and informal.Dec 03 10:24
MinceRi ascribed it to cognitive dissonanceDec 03 10:44
MinceRthat might last longer than a capDec 03 10:44
schestowitz"Dec 03 10:56
schestowitzHi Mark,Dec 03 10:56
schestowitzI didn't tell RMS about any of our clients, I only said that the British government is starting to adopt more Free software. We chatted for 2.5 hours in person and since then we've been exchanging about half a dozen emails per day. His talk in Lincoln was excellent and well attended.Dec 03 10:56
schestowitzHe is trying to convince the academics there to only use Free software and to only ever use proprietary software for reverse-engineering projects (student projects).Dec 03 10:56
schestowitzOver the next few months I will edit and publish some videos that we recorded.Dec 03 10:56
schestowitz"Dec 03 10:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3368119Dec 03 22:55
TechBytesBot@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People who photograph themselves in front of mirrors holding phone are not impressing anyone;if anything,may lack friends to photograph themDec 03 22:55
schestowitz"You know, that might be true. Got to think more about that."Dec 03 22:55
schestowitz"He said stories in publications including the Guardian, the New York Times, the Washington Post and Der Spiegel had prompted much-needed debate about the scale of intelligence activities and exposed the limits of laws drawn up in the pre-internet era."Dec 03 23:16
schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25205846Dec 03 23:16
TechBytesBotwww.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Only 1% of Snowden files published - Guardian editorDec 03 23:16
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_416462f4a3a594bc8e60.jpgDec 03 23:22
schestowitzWife and I watched Big Buck Bunny for the 5th time today..Dec 03 23:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408006924593299457  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408009622461898752  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408011027708928002 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408011127478824960  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/408012374558662656Dec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot@schestowitz: Linux Is the Only Way to Protect Against Potential Sound-Transmitted Malware http://t.co/kOVmBLzGET #linux #securityDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot-> news.softpedia.com | Linux Is the Only Way to Protect Against Potential Sound-Transmitted MalwareDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot@schestowitz: At Some Other Berkeley http://t.co/iWcDCxi2ay private education and crushing of protestsDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot-> jacobinmag.com | At Some Other Berkeley | JacobinDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot@schestowitz: Dam [sic] amazing https://t.co/BuJUBqDEPYDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot@schestowitz: 99& to go http://t.co/MYLrsQrlrSDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot@schestowitz: British burned, dumped ‘embarrassing’ colonial documents http://t.co/9UvNQEMkLK #uk #historyDec 03 23:25
TechBytesBot-> www.japantimes.co.jp | British burned, dumped 'embarrassing' colonial documents | The Japan TimesDec 03 23:25
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3376408Dec 05 21:04
TechBytesBot@linux@joindiaspora.com reshared: How?Dec 05 21:04
schestowitz__"It's probobly Russia. Russian people are indestructible and they run on vodka all the time [as you can probobly see]. [end of joke]."Dec 05 21:04
schestowitz__http://archive09.linux.com/feature/147172?theme=printDec 05 21:37
TechBytesBotarchive09.linux.com | Linux.com :: Michael Larabel talks about Phoronix  [ http://ur1.ca/g5ez6 ]Dec 05 21:37
schestowitz__http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQxNTIDec 05 21:39
TechBytesBotwww.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Another Linux Site Shuts Down  [ http://ur1.ca/g5ezj ]Dec 05 21:39
schestowitz__"Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__Our friends at The H have decided to close up shop. The Linux and open-source publication owned by Heise is no more.Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__The H had been providing open-source and Linux articles for the past half-decade, but now this is another Linux site that's closing its doors. Similar to other enthusiast-oriented sites that have vanished, they basically shutdown for lack of profitability.Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__In their closing message they note, "it has not been possible to effectively monetise that traffic to produce a working business model."Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__Having been running Phoronix for the past nine years, I'm very well aware of the difficulties in running a Linux-oriented site especially when it comes to dealing with monetization. Many companies aren't interested in advertising on Linux enthusiasts sites as it's a rather small niche, and then on Linux there's an abundance of people using AdBlock, etc, that do much damage to the publisher.Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__"Dec 05 21:40
schestowitz__writing an article about himself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux.comDec 05 21:40
TechBytesBoten.wikipedia.org | Linux.com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaDec 05 21:40
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3374512Dec 07 07:41
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