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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz>Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz> Many of the Tuxmachines' posts have been linked to articles of ratherNov 17 09:01
schestowitz> negative tone, take this one for example:Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz>Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz> http://www.tgdaily.com/software-opinion/81546-linux-geezers-need-fresh-meatNov 17 09:01
TechBytesBotwww.tgdaily.com | Linux geezers need fresh meat  | TG Daily  [ http://ur1.ca/g1vjy ]Nov 17 09:01
schestowitzYes, I wasn't sure about this, but I told Rianne it's OK if she quotes that last part.Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz> vs the one that wasn't used:Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz>Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz> http://opensource.com/education/13/11/linux-kernel-community-growthNov 17 09:01
TechBytesBotopensource.com | The Linux kernel community learns how to grow more penguins | opensource.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g101f ]Nov 17 09:01
schestowitzRed Hat emailed me asking to post a link. I did.Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz> Also, I notice there have not been daily links at TR of late.  ThoseNov 17 09:01
schestowitz> used to get praise.  I hope they will still be continued.  If you needNov 17 09:01
schestowitz> material for Tuxmachines, it's fine to base them on the most interestingNov 17 09:01
schestowitz> (positive) articles.  That would probably be the least work for you andNov 17 09:01
schestowitz> Rianne.Nov 17 09:01
schestowitzTuxMachines is not so much an advocacy site. As for techrights, daily links got too long. I post them by topic, sometimes with commentary, so all the same links get posted one way or another.Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz> I guess you're more busy than usual of late.  How is the DrupalNov 17 09:01
schestowitz> transition going?Nov 17 09:01
schestowitzIt's not an urgent thing. At the company we work for, Rianne and I just got another Drupal client, so we try to improve our skills with it.Nov 17 09:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3291835Nov 17 09:28
TechBytesBot@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I overdosed caffeine again. Can't sleep. Must improve caffeine prescription...Nov 17 09:28
schestowitz"^^^ My personal hero. I'd found a religion based on him, but it would require a great deal of work... something that His Holiness, I'm sure would disapprove of."Nov 17 09:28
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3301809Nov 17 20:31
TechBytesBot@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The US DHS wants to treat people like cattle http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/privacy/privacy_advcom_rpt_rfid_draft.pdf why not ask IBM for help? They helped Hitler.Nov 17 20:31
schestowitz"You should not do this, but if you do here's how it should be done... For these reasons, we recommend that RFID be disfavored for identifying and tracking human beings. When DHS does choose to use RFID to identify and track individuals, we recommend the implementation of the specific security and privacy safeguards described herein."Nov 17 20:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3301919Nov 17 21:23
TechBytesBot@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Politicians in Europe and the United States Are Giving up on #NetNeutralityNov 17 21:23
TechBytesBot-> techrights.org | Politicians in Europe and the United States Are Giving up on Net Neutrality | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/g1y9w ]Nov 17 21:23
schestowitz"Well said, Will"Nov 17 21:23
schestowitz"Not that I defend IBM in any way, but ... it is worth noticing that they didn't sell that machine because they believed in nazi ideology. They did it because the wanted money. It's not the best explanation for them, but still - it's better than conscious support of nazi system."Nov 17 21:24
schestowitzThe main question is (and it's answered), what did IBM know about the intended use of these systems? (Census first, marking people later)Nov 17 21:25
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Nov 18 19:25
schestowitz>Nov 18 19:25
schestowitz> Apparently some activist investor has bought a lot of Nokia shares:Nov 18 19:25
schestowitz>Nov 18 19:25
schestowitz> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http://yle.fi/uutiset/upporikas_aktivistisijoittaja_osti_ison_siivun_nokiasta__pyrkii_vaikuttamaan_yhtion_tulevaan_suuntaan/6939910Nov 18 19:25
TechBytesBottranslate.google.com | Google Translate  [ http://ur1.ca/g2571 ]Nov 18 19:25
schestowitzI can recall this name. Maybe Microsoft would be served here.Nov 18 19:25
schestowitz> I'll see if I can find a source.  On the tv news, they mentioned thatNov 18 19:26
schestowitz> the police and several agencies had outsourced surveillance technologiesNov 18 19:26
schestowitz> like cameras and such to 3rd parties.  Then, no surprise, criminals hadNov 18 19:26
schestowitz> themselves gained access.  I can't figure how they can still use WindowsNov 18 19:26
schestowitz> and still expect to have a monopoly on access.  Even with secureNov 18 19:26
schestowitz> systems, there is still the risk of criminals using the infrastructure.Nov 18 19:26
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3312029Nov 20 06:32
TechBytesBot@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: cats not kidsNov 20 06:32
schestowitzOf course that could be referring to baby goats.... Could be. I didn't say it does. ;-)"77"Nov 20 06:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3306578Nov 22 01:31
TechBytesBot@linux@joindiaspora.com: "Android is approaching Windows-like domination of the smartphone industry" http://linuxgizmos.com/android-smartphone-market-share-exceeds-80-percent/Nov 22 01:31
TechBytesBot-> linuxgizmos.com | Android: the dog caught the car. Now what? ·  LinuxGizmos.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g2awp ]Nov 22 01:31
schestowitz"Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Their hardware woes just really seem to have hit them hard. Looking forward to seeing what Vivaldi looks like when it eventually comes out."Nov 22 01:31
schestowitz"Nov 22 02:01
schestowitzHi,Nov 22 02:01
schestowitzI have tried 5 times, without success, to add bandwidth to this domain. I keep getting:Nov 22 02:01
schestowitz"Details of the problem have been logged and will be resolved as soon as possible. In the mean time if you have any additional information as to how the error occured, or would like us to help you further please do get in contact with our support department."Nov 22 02:01
schestowitzI had the same issue some days ago, but the day later it worked again. Now it just never works at all.Nov 22 02:01
schestowitzThe domain will soon run out of bandwidth unless this payment (for adding 6 GB of traffic) works.Nov 22 02:01
schestowitz"Nov 22 02:01
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/content/beyond-google-reader-commafeedNov 22 21:19
TechBytesBotwww.linuxjournal.com | Beyond Google Reader: CommaFeed | Linux Journal  [ http://ur1.ca/g2xml ]Nov 22 21:19
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schestowitz[05:51] <tessier> /home is fullNov 23 06:36
schestowitz[06:33] <schestowitz> yes, I know, thanksNov 23 06:36
schestowitz[06:35] <schestowitz> I imported tuxmachines and the backup job overnight led to just a but too much... I don't think it caused downtimeNov 23 06:36
schestowitz[06:35] <schestowitz> I want to test the site locally, I will clear some space and test to see it...Nov 23 06:36
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Nov 17 09:00
schestowitz>Nov 17 09:00
schestowitz> Many of the Tuxmachines' posts have been linked to articles of ratherNov 17 09:00
schestowitz> negative tone, take this one for example:Nov 17 09:00
schestowitz>Nov 17 09:00
schestowitz> http://www.tgdaily.com/software-opinion/81546-linux-geezers-need-fresh-meatNov 17 09:00
TechBytesBotwww.tgdaily.com | Linux geezers need fresh meat  | TG Daily  [ http://ur1.ca/g1vjy ]Nov 17 09:00
schestowitzYes, I wasn't sure about this, but I told Rianne it's OK if she quotes that last part.Nov 17 09:00
schestowitz Nov 17 09:00
schestowitz> vs the one that wasn't used:Nov 17 09:00
schestowitz>Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz> http://opensource.com/education/13/11/linux-kernel-community-growthNov 17 09:01
TechBytesBotopensource.com | The Linux kernel community learns how to grow more penguins | opensource.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g101f ]Nov 17 09:01
schestowitzRed Hat emailed me asking to post a link. I did.Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz> Also, I notice there have not been daily links at TR of late.  ThoseNov 17 09:01
schestowitz> used to get praise.  I hope they will still be continued.  If you needNov 17 09:01
schestowitz> material for Tuxmachines, it's fine to base them on the most interestingNov 17 09:01
schestowitz> (positive) articles.  That would probably be the least work for you andNov 17 09:01
schestowitz> Rianne.Nov 17 09:01
schestowitzTuxMachines is not so much an advocacy site. As for techrights, daily links got too long. I post them by topic, sometimes with commentary, so all the same links get posted one way or another.Nov 17 09:01
schestowitz> I guess you're more busy than usual of late.  How is the DrupalNov 17 09:01
schestowitz> transition going?Nov 17 09:01
schestowitzIt's not an urgent thing. At the company we work for, Rianne and I just got another Drupal client, so we try to improve our skills with it.Nov 17 09:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3291835Nov 17 09:27
TechBytesBot@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I overdosed caffeine again. Can't sleep. Must improve caffeine prescription...Nov 17 09:27
schestowitz"^^^ My personal hero. I'd found a religion based on him, but it would require a great deal of work... something that His Holiness, I'm sure would disapprove of."Nov 17 09:27
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3301809Nov 17 20:31
TechBytesBot@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The US DHS wants to treat people like cattle http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/privacy/privacy_advcom_rpt_rfid_draft.pdf why not ask IBM for help? They helped Hitler.Nov 17 20:31
schestowitz"You should not do this, but if you do here's how it should be done... For these reasons, we recommend that RFID be disfavored for identifying and tracking human beings. When DHS does choose to use RFID to identify and track individuals, we recommend the implementation of the specific security and privacy safeguards described herein."Nov 17 20:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3301919Nov 17 21:23
TechBytesBot@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Politicians in Europe and the United States Are Giving up on #NetNeutralityNov 17 21:23
TechBytesBot-> techrights.org | Politicians in Europe and the United States Are Giving up on Net Neutrality | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/g1y9w ]Nov 17 21:23
schestowitz"Well said, Will"Nov 17 21:23
schestowitz"Not that I defend IBM in any way, but ... it is worth noticing that they didn't sell that machine because they believed in nazi ideology. They did it because the wanted money. It's not the best explanation for them, but still - it's better than conscious support of nazi system."Nov 17 21:24
schestowitzThe main question is (and it's answered), what did IBM know about the intended use of these systems? (Census first, marking people later)Nov 17 21:25
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schestowitz> Hi, Roy,Nov 18 19:25
schestowitz>Nov 18 19:25
schestowitz> Apparently some activist investor has bought a lot of Nokia shares:Nov 18 19:25
schestowitz>Nov 18 19:25
schestowitz> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http://yle.fi/uutiset/upporikas_aktivistisijoittaja_osti_ison_siivun_nokiasta__pyrkii_vaikuttamaan_yhtion_tulevaan_suuntaan/6939910Nov 18 19:25
TechBytesBottranslate.google.com | Google Translate  [ http://ur1.ca/g2571 ]Nov 18 19:25
schestowitzI can recall this name. Maybe Microsoft would be served here.Nov 18 19:25
schestowitz> I'll see if I can find a source.  On the tv news, they mentioned thatNov 18 19:26
schestowitz> the police and several agencies had outsourced surveillance technologiesNov 18 19:26
schestowitz> like cameras and such to 3rd parties.  Then, no surprise, criminals hadNov 18 19:26
schestowitz> themselves gained access.  I can't figure how they can still use WindowsNov 18 19:26
schestowitz> and still expect to have a monopoly on access.  Even with secureNov 18 19:26
schestowitz> systems, there is still the risk of criminals using the infrastructure.Nov 18 19:26
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3312029Nov 20 06:32
TechBytesBot@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: cats not kidsNov 20 06:32
schestowitzOf course that could be referring to baby goats.... Could be. I didn't say it does. ;-)"77"Nov 20 06:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3306578Nov 22 01:31
TechBytesBot@linux@joindiaspora.com: "Android is approaching Windows-like domination of the smartphone industry" http://linuxgizmos.com/android-smartphone-market-share-exceeds-80-percent/Nov 22 01:31
TechBytesBot-> linuxgizmos.com | Android: the dog caught the car. Now what? ·  LinuxGizmos.com  [ http://ur1.ca/g2awp ]Nov 22 01:31
schestowitz"Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Their hardware woes just really seem to have hit them hard. Looking forward to seeing what Vivaldi looks like when it eventually comes out."Nov 22 01:31
schestowitz"Nov 22 02:01
schestowitzHi,Nov 22 02:01
schestowitzI have tried 5 times, without success, to add bandwidth to this domain. I keep getting:Nov 22 02:01
schestowitz"Details of the problem have been logged and will be resolved as soon as possible. In the mean time if you have any additional information as to how the error occured, or would like us to help you further please do get in contact with our support department."Nov 22 02:01
schestowitzI had the same issue some days ago, but the day later it worked again. Now it just never works at all.Nov 22 02:01
schestowitzThe domain will soon run out of bandwidth unless this payment (for adding 6 GB of traffic) works.Nov 22 02:01
schestowitz"Nov 22 02:01
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/content/beyond-google-reader-commafeedNov 22 21:19
TechBytesBotwww.linuxjournal.com | Beyond Google Reader: CommaFeed | Linux Journal  [ http://ur1.ca/g2xml ]Nov 22 21:19
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schestowitz[05:51] <tessier> /home is fullNov 23 06:35
schestowitz[06:33] <schestowitz> yes, I know, thanksNov 23 06:35
schestowitz[06:35] <schestowitz> I imported tuxmachines and the backup job overnight led to just a but too much... I don't think it caused downtimeNov 23 06:35
schestowitz[06:35] <schestowitz> I want to test the site locally, I will clear some space and test to see it...Nov 23 06:35
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