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| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kopimism is a new religion for atheists, agnostics, and believers in other religions who want a new perspective" http://falkvinge.net/2013/12/21/good-midwinter-solstice-with-a-kopimist-gospel/ | Dec 22 11:46 |
| schestowitz__ | "I don't know of any rationalists that would be happy to proclaim a belief in "hidden magic". This seems like a way for agnostics to keep from facing their own existential angst and for New Agers to claim intellectual legitimacy." | Dec 22 11:46 |
| TechrightsBN | -> falkvinge.net | Good Midwinter Solstice! With A Kopimist Gospel - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/g8dob ] | Dec 22 11:46 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3437473 | Dec 22 11:47 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Torrent is efficient transmission of data over existing #internet infrastructure and its painting as "copyright violation" been manufactured | Dec 22 11:47 |
| schestowitz__ | "I use the torrent for 100% legal things same download a GNU/Linux distribution! The stupid majors try say it's illegal...!!!" | Dec 22 11:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3436711 | Dec 22 11:53 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Antithetical to US http://gizmodo.com/sweden-is-closing-prisons-due-to-lack-of-people-to-put-1462950734 | Dec 22 11:53 |
| TechrightsBN | -> gizmodo.com | Sweden Is Closing Prisons Due to Lack of People to Put In Them [ http://ur1.ca/g8n1d ] | Dec 22 11:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "Well, see, that's because it isn't a private prison. US prisons are flourishing because they are businesses .." | Dec 22 11:53 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3437473 | Dec 23 06:09 |
| schestowitz__ | "Just thinking about it is wrong!" | Dec 23 06:10 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Coca-Cola was named back in 1885 for its two "medicinal" ingredients: extract of coca leaves and kola nuts. Just how much cocaine was originally in the formulation is hard to determine, but the drink undeniably contained some cocaine in its early days. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Read more at http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp#wCXRjYhCThq5yubr.99 | Dec 23 07:38 |
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| TechrightsBN | ( status 404 @ http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp#wCXRjYhCThq5yubr.99 ) | Dec 23 07:38 |
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| schestowitz__ | Cocaine-Cola | Dec 23 07:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Claim: Coca-Cola used to contain cocaine. | Dec 23 07:39 |
| schestowitz__ | PARTLY TRUE | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Origins: Coca-Cola was named back in 1885 for its two "medicinal" ingredients: extract of coca leaves and kola nuts. Just how much cocaine was originally in the formulation is hard to determine, but the drink undeniably contained some cocaine in its early days. Frederick Allen describes the public attitude towards cocaine that existed as Coca-Cola's developers worked on perfecting their formula in 1891: | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | The first stirrings of a national debate had begun over the negative aspects of cocaine, and manufacturers were growing defensive over charges that use of their products might lead to "cocainism" or the "cocaine habit". The full-throated fury against cocaine was still a few years off, and Candler and Robinson were anxious to continue promoting the supposed benefits of the coca leaf, but there was no reason to risk putting more | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | than a tiny bit of coca extract in their syrup. They cut the amount to a mere trace. | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Allen also explains that cocaine continued to be an ingredient in the syrup in order to protect the trade name "Coca-Cola": | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | But neither could Candler take the simple step of eliminating the fluid extract of coca leaves from the formula. Candler believed that his product's name had to be descriptive, and that he must have at least some by-product of the coca leaf in the syrup (along with some kola) to protect his right to the name Coca-Cola. Protecting the name was critical. Candler had no patent on the syrup itself. Anyone could make an imitation. But | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | no one could put the label "Coca-Cola" on an imitation so long as Candler owned the name. The name was the thing of real value, and the registered trademark was its only safeguard. Coca leaves had to stay in the syrup. | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | How much cocaine was in that "mere trace" is impossible to say, but we do know that by 1902 it was as little as 1/400 of a grain of cocaine per ounce of syrup. Coca-Cola didn't become completely cocaine-free until 1929, but there was scarcely any of the drug left in the drink by then: | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | By Heath's calculation, the amount of ecgonine [an alkaloid in the coca leaf that could be synthesized to create cocaine] was infinitesimal: no more than one part in 50 million. In an entire year's supply of 25-odd million gallons of Coca-Cola syrup, Heath figured, there might be six-hundredths of an ounce of cocaine. | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | So, yes, at one time there was cocaine in Coca-Cola. But before you're tempted to run off claiming Coca-Cola turned | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | generations of drinkers into dope addicts, consider the following: back in 1885 it was far from uncommon to use cocaine in patent medicines (which is what Coca-Cola was originally marketed as) and other medical potions. When it first became general knowledge that cocaine could be harmful, the backroom chemists who comprised Coca-Cola at the time (long before it became the huge company we now know) did everything they could with | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | the technology they had available at the time to remove every trace of cocaine from the beverage. What was left behind (until the technology improved enough for it all to be removed) wasn't enough to give a fly a buzz. | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Barbara "hooked on a feeling" Mikkelson | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Last updated: 19 May 2011 | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Urban Legends Reference Pages © 1995-2013 by Barbara and David P. Mikkelson. | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | This material may not be reproduced without permission. | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | snopes and the snopes.com logo are registered service marks of snopes.com. | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Dec 23 07:40 | |
| schestowitz__ | Sources: | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Allen, Frederick. Secret Formula. | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | New York: HarperCollins, 1994. ISBN 0-88730-672-1 (pp. 35-36, 41-42, 45, 192). | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Miller, Michael. "Things Go Better with Coca Extract." | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Rocky Mountain News. 22 November 1994 (p. A28). | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Morgan, Hal and Kerry Tucker. Rumor! | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | New York: Penguin Books, 1984. ISBN 0-14-007036-2 (pp. 65-66). | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Pendergrast, Mark. For God, Country, and Coca-Cola. | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1993. ISBN 0-684-19347-7. | Dec 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Read more at http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp#wCXRjYhCThq5yubr.99 | Dec 23 07:40 |
| TechrightsBN | ( status 404 @ http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp#wCXRjYhCThq5yubr.99 ) | Dec 23 07:40 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | "Most Saxons remained in Germany, however, and resisted the expanding Frankish Empire through the leadership of the semi-legendary Saxon hero, Widukind." | Dec 23 08:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons | Dec 23 08:27 |
| TechrightsBN | en.wikipedia.org | Saxons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 23 08:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "During the Middle Ages, because of international Hanseatic trading routes and contingent migration, Saxons mixed with and had strong influences upon the languages and cultures of the North Germanic, Baltic peoples, Finnic peoples, Polabian Slavs and Pomeranian West Slavic people." | Dec 23 08:28 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The word also survives as the surnames Saß/Sass, Sachse and Sachs. The Dutch female first name "Saskia" originally meant "A Saxon woman" (alteration of "Saxia")." | Dec 23 08:29 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3440304 | Dec 24 02:02 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Theory: What If Search Engines Too Are Partly Subsidised by #NSA to Mine Our Minds? | Dec 24 02:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Part of USGov/Microsoft's slog against Google is infiltration and subversion. The way in was Google's focus on performance and building their interfaces around Windows, Flash, etc." | Dec 24 02:02 |
| TechrightsBN | -> techrights.org | Theory: What If Search Engines Too Are Partly Subsidised by NSA to Mine Our Minds? | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g8xd2 ] | Dec 24 02:02 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3441876 | Dec 24 02:17 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: keep offending... | Dec 24 02:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Yes, you bent-nosed homo toff, hehe...;-))" | Dec 24 02:17 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3443769 | Dec 24 02:18 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Mikhail #Kalashnikov, Creator of #AK-47, Dies at 94 | Dec 24 02:18 |
| TechrightsBN | Photo by jamesprothero@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_04da56e34a8f9bd49249.jpg | Dec 24 02:18 |
| TechrightsBN | -> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/g902j ] | Dec 24 02:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "More AK-47s have been produced then all other rifles combined." | Dec 24 02:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3443688 | Dec 24 02:18 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember when Bezos, who gets half a billion from the #cia bought the paper #washpo - already notorious for CIA ties? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/12/23/nsa-paranoia-enough-already/ | Dec 24 02:18 |
| TechrightsBN | -> www.washingtonpost.com | NSA paranoia: Enough already [ http://ur1.ca/g902l ] | Dec 24 02:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Yep!" | Dec 24 02:18 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > technically speaking, the content is licensed to linuxgizmos, not owned | Dec 24 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > by linuxgizmos, but I see no obstacle to maintaining it at | Dec 24 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > archive.linuxgizmos.com indefinitely! it's really nice to see it back | Dec 24 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > online. I've been enjoying looking at the early days. | Dec 24 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Dec 24 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I think what QuinStreet did in this arrangement was extremely fair and | Dec 24 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > well intended. I certainly hope they receive some positive feedback ;-) | Dec 24 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Dec 24 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Best wishes for happy holidays and an amazing 2014! | Dec 24 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Yes, indeed. | Dec 24 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Well, in techrights I wrote 17,000+ posts in 7+ years and I'd hate to see all that vanishing; the archive still gets many hits. To some people, when a story makes no profit there's no motivation to keep it up; those people are not creative folks, all that matters to them is money. Oracle comes to mind... | Dec 24 02:22 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://linuxgizmos.com/linuxdevices-content-online-again/ | Dec 24 02:49 |
| TechrightsBN | linuxgizmos.com | LinuxDevices content returns to the Web · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/g8zxz ] | Dec 24 02:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Dec 24 02:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | One of most widely respected repositories of embedded and mobile Linux news and information has returned to the web as an archive hosted here at LinuxGizmos.com. | Dec 24 02:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | QuinStreet acquired LinuxDevices.com in Feb. 2012 through its purchase of a group of websites from publisher Ziff Davis Enterprise. After the acquisition, LinuxDevices remained frozen in time for about a year before vanishing in May, shortly after I launched LinuxGizmos.com. Following a constructive discussion about possibilities for bringing the LinuxDevices content back online, QuinStreet generously offered to license | Dec 24 02:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | LinuxGizmos to host the LinuxDevices Archive on our site, as a “holiday present to the Linux community.” | Dec 24 02:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Dec 24 02:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Back in 1999, Linux was still a babe in the woods, especially in embedded, but I was encouraged by the arrival of several startups devoted principally to embedded Linux — most notably, MontaVista Software, but also Lineo and several other smaller firms. Having co-founded Ampro Computers and having co-created the PC/104 form-factor I had seen how demand for Linux was growing in embedded systems that previously ran Windows CE | Dec 24 02:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | or various RTOSes (real-time operating systems) like VRTX and VxWorks. People wanted programmability, cost-effectiveness, networking savvy, and basically a smarter and more flexible operating environment. Linux gave it to them. Not all at once, mind you. The kernel evolved considerably during LinuxDevices.com’s 12-year lifespan including RT-Preempt real-time patches being merged into the 2.6 kernel), and was joined by key | Dec 24 02:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | open source components like BusyBox and JFFS2." | Dec 24 02:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I left LinuxDevices in Dec. 2007, turning the site over fully to Ziff Davis Enterprise. Under the direction of Henry Kingman, who stayed until 2009, and then Eric Brown and Jonathan Angel who remained until the site was acquired by QuinStreet in 2012, LinuxDevices tracked the continuing evolution of Linux into mobile devices. The site documented the emergence of WebOS and MeeGo (a merger of Maemo and Moblin), which like most | Dec 24 02:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Linux projects never quite disappeared. (They can be found in upcoming LG smart TVs and Jolla’s Sailfish OS, respectfully.) We covered the arrival of the BeagleBoard in 2008, and watched the open board concept spread to numerous imitators." | Dec 24 02:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | When LinuxDevices was up and running it was one of the most useful and objective sources of information; it would have been a huge loss if it didn't managed to stay online one way or another. | Dec 24 02:53 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/23/2326212/f-secures-mikko-hypponen-cancels-rsa-talk-in-protest | Dec 24 02:53 |
| TechrightsBN | beta.slashdot.org | F-Secure's Mikko Hypponen Cancels RSA Talk In Protest - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/g908u ] | Dec 24 02:53 |
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| schestowitz | ' | Dec 24 05:09 |
| schestowitz | Hi Rick, | Dec 24 05:09 |
| schestowitz | Any update on restoring Linux Devices stories? If they don't release these, then maybe getting them all from Web Archive to rehost would be worthwhile... I keep getting 404s on very unique and important articles, even in Wikipedia (just moments ago). | Dec 24 05:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 24 05:09 |
| schestowitz | It's all back online now | Dec 24 05:09 |
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| schestowitz__ | >>> I think what QuinStreet did in this arrangement was extremely fair | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> and well intended. I certainly hope they receive some positive | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> feedback ;-) | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> Best wishes for happy holidays and an amazing 2014! | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >> Yes, indeed. | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >> Well, in techrights I wrote 17,000+ posts in 7+ years and I'd hate | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >> to see all that vanishing; the archive still gets many hits. To some | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >> people, when a story makes no profit there's no motivation to keep | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >> it up; those people are not creative folks, all that matters to them | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >> is money. Oracle comes to mind... | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | > This is great news. It'd be better if the material were more than just | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | > licensed but if Rick is happy then it is all good. It'd be really | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | > great, when it is restored, if he could write up the recovery process, | Dec 24 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | > even just generally, to increase awareness of the need for proactive | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | > planning that digital materials require in regards to archiving. With | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | > paper, you could decide after the fact. It took work to throw out | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | > papers, and there were many copies floating around, in some cases | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | > millions. With the web, there is only ever just one copy and when that | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | > is gone, all access is gone. | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | > With Slashdot in the hands of Dice, something bad will probably happen | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | > there eventually, too. A lot of the old discussion and articles were | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | > quite important. In some cases the discussion and summary are all | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | > that's left of the original article. Even sites in benevolent hands, | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | > like Technocrat.net, vanish, too. | Dec 24 18:04 |
| schestowitz__ | Did Bruce not bring it back online at some point? Or migrate it to his? | Dec 24 18:04 |
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| schestowitz__ | > Dr. Roy, here is the user name and password for my new account. I use | Dec 25 20:48 |
| schestowitz__ | > Texstars baby with both LXDE and MATE desktops. | Dec 25 20:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3446456 | Dec 25 21:32 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Seven free, open source video editors for Linux | Dec 25 21:32 |
| TechrightsBN | -> www.networkworld.com | Seven free, open source video editors for Linux - Network World [ http://ur1.ca/g9dyp ] | Dec 25 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | I find Openshot is easy to use ..... very quick to use for cutting and clipping videos - also for converting to formats and a good list of conversions to post onto the web."77" | Dec 25 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | "I've used Kino and Kdenlive. Both are good, Kdenlive is excellent." | Dec 25 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | "I've used OpenShot myself, and found it quite useful even for my very first movie." | Dec 25 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | "Which one do you recommend?." | Dec 25 21:33 |
| schestowitz__ | I love openshot, kdenlive was too hard for me | Dec 25 21:33 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3420117 | Dec 25 21:33 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #firefox for #android is still a little buggy and deficient. Google's spyware (Chrome) not an option. What other decent options are there? | Dec 25 21:33 |
| schestowitz__ | "Also what about old good Tint Browser?" | Dec 25 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3451154 | Dec 26 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Possibly the backdoor gremlins hard at work."77" | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3451266 | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | "I imagine many WTF during the Window$ coding :-D" | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | "o tal vez unos "dios mio!"... cuando ven los pantallazos azules... XD (BSOD)" | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3452288 | Dec 26 20:51 |
| schestowitz | "There is one in every crowd..." | Dec 26 20:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3452502 | Dec 26 20:52 |
| schestowitz | "Seeing things to actually change is believing. And following up some time to have peace of mind, like 10 years or more, just to be sure." | Dec 26 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3452334 | Dec 26 23:01 |
| schestowitz | "Sad. Me loves bananas." | Dec 26 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3452288 | Dec 27 20:39 |
| schestowitz | "I eventually painted lightning bolts on the helmet so that it went on forward. If I ever get another motorbike, it will have a checklist." | Dec 27 20:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3455384 | Dec 27 20:39 |
| schestowitz | "As long as they keep using non free software, the NSA has nothing to worry about." | Dec 27 20:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3455366 | Dec 27 20:40 |
| schestowitz | "That's the second Bloomberg article with distinctly Google shaped bad news I've seen in the last five minutes. The other was the source of <a href="https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3455384">this article about "no client data in USA"</a>." | Dec 27 20:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3455325 | Dec 27 20:40 |
| schestowitz | "This is the inverse of the old saw, "I'd never join a club that would have me as a member." The world is probably better off when people who think this is a good idea implement it." | Dec 27 20:40 |
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| TechrightsBN | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.71 | Dec 27 20:45 |
| schestowitz | does not mention she works for Linux Foundation, still https://twitter.com/noyesk | Dec 27 21:53 |
| TechrightsBN | twitter.com | Katherine Noyes (noyesk) on Twitter | Dec 27 21:53 |
| schestowitz | supports Snoden https://plus.google.com/105492284418862345045/posts/4tkt7ScBeJU | Dec 27 21:55 |
| TechrightsBN | plus.google.com | Katherine Noyes - Google+ - I Agree. [ http://ur1.ca/g9ryn ] | Dec 27 21:55 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3455314 | Dec 27 22:19 |
| TechrightsBN | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Linux distro Ubuntu enables SSD TRIM support by default http://www.myce.com/news/linux-distro-ubuntu-enables-ssd-trim-support-by-default-69983/ | Dec 27 22:19 |
| TechrightsBN | -> www.myce.com | Linux distro Ubuntu enables SSD TRIM support by default | Myce.com [ http://ur1.ca/g9s1r ] | Dec 27 22:19 |
| schestowitz | "You don't have to wait until Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be released somewhere in April next year to enable SSD TRIM. You can already do it today with the instructions of the Pinguy OS developer Antoni Norman: http://forum.pinguyos.com/Thread-Enable-TRIM-on-SSDs " | Dec 27 22:19 |
| TechrightsBN | forum.pinguyos.com | Enable TRIM on SSDs [ http://ur1.ca/g9s1u ] | Dec 27 22:19 |
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| schestowitz | >> think it's better to ignore for now; any publicity would only help | Dec 28 10:49 |
| schestowitz | >> it, unless there's some major backlash. | Dec 28 10:49 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 28 10:49 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 10:50 |
| schestowitz | > Agreed. But it is something to be ready for. | Dec 28 10:50 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 10:50 |
| schestowitz | > PS. Your reply came through unencrypted. | Dec 28 10:50 |
| schestowitz | Knowingly. Unless we can figure out a way to challenge Mono using this news, I see no point bringing it up in an article critical of Mono. | Dec 28 10:50 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I am watching what happens over the PS4. | Dec 28 11:39 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Dec 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | > How can I help with the TuxMachines DB? As mentioned, my MySQL is a bit | Dec 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | > rusty. | Dec 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | My main problem right now is: | Dec 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | [root@techrights boycottn]# nice -9 mysql -u root -h localhost drupal < drupal.sql | Dec 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 3880: Duplicate entry 'maß' for key 'PRIMARY' | Dec 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | That's after I finally managed to export the DB from TM's original server. I just can't import it properly into the TR/new TM machine. | Dec 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5860074/phpmyadmin-export-import-results-in-duplicate-primary-key-error | Dec 28 18:11 |
| TechrightsBN | stackoverflow.com | mysql - phpMyAdmin export/import results in duplicate primary key error - Stack Overflow [ http://ur1.ca/g9x02 ] | Dec 28 18:11 |
| schestowitz | "During the import, I'm encountering a duplicate entry for primary key error. Trying to debug this, I exported the file, then imported the identical file, making no changes and I still get the same error." | Dec 28 18:11 |
| schestowitz | > Is the TM database already partially loaded? How much is there? What | Dec 28 18:14 |
| schestowitz | > is drupal.sql doing about existing records or tables? | Dec 28 18:14 |
| schestowitz | Good shot. And minutes ago I found out that this in fact might be the problem. I need to drop the tables before importing, it's not an override type system. :-) | Dec 28 18:14 |
| schestowitz | I will try this and get back to you. | Dec 28 18:14 |
| schestowitz | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5860074/phpmyadmin-export-import-results-in-duplicate-primary-key-error | Dec 28 18:14 |
| schestowitz | I have dropped the database, tried to import again, got a complaint about missing DB, so I recreated it by name as empty, then imported. Guess what? Still the same darn error message. Not sure what to do an searching the Web has not helped so far :-( | Dec 28 18:41 |
| schestowitz | > Does the drupal.sql file you are importing from create the db? AFAIK | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > that has to be specified when making the initial dump. Here's what I | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > used to use: | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > mysqldump druapl \ | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > --add-drop-table \ | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > --add-locks \ | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > --comments=0 \ | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > --create-options \ | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > --lock-tables \ | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > --no-data \ | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > -u root -p | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > It is the --create-options which are important. I'm not sure if they | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | > are there by default. | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | It takes me about an hour to dump the DB and copy it over to the other datacentre, so I will try the above only if I find no other solution in the coming hour. | Dec 28 18:48 |
| schestowitz | >> It takes me about an hour to dump the DB and copy it over to the other | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | >> datacentre, so I will try the above only if I find no other solution in | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | >> the coming hour. | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > It's possible to just dump the structure, the above has --no-data which | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > should make it fast and just get the structure. | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > · --no-data, -d | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > Do not write any table row information (that is, do | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > not dump table | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > contents). This is useful if you want to dump only | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > the CREATE TABLE | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > statement for the table (for example, to create an | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > empty copy of | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > the table by loading the dump file). | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/en/man1/mysqldump.1.html | Dec 28 18:54 |
| TechrightsBN | manpages.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Manpage: mysqldump - a database backup program [ http://ur1.ca/g9x6y ] | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | I'm assuming the error I get would be different if structures were altogether improper to facilitate the import. | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | > This is on CentOS or Debian? | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | One is Debian (old) and another CentOS. | Dec 28 18:54 |
| schestowitz | >> I'm assuming the error I get would be different if structures were | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | >> altogether improper to facilitate the import. | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > I was thinking it would be worth trying to just import the structure | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > alone first and see how that goes. I don't have MySQL around to test, | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > but with the drupal.sql you have, it might be possible to make a copy of | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > the file and then edit out the drop/create tables info and just leave | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > the data and try importing data separate from the structure. | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > Obviously there seems to be some duplicate primary key data, but how did | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > it get there and how many other such errors are there? | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | >>> This is on CentOS or Debian? | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | >> One is Debian (old) and another CentOS. | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure if Susan has a history of testing import/export. Last I checked, the DB needed repair, which I did... but it's not enough. | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3457398 | Dec 28 19:02 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not just Ubuntu: All #GNU #Linux Distributions Store Wi-Fi Passwords in Plain Text If You Don’t Use Encryption http://news.softpedia.com/news/All-Linux-Distributions-Store-Wi-Fi-Passwords-in-Plain-Text-If-You-Don-t-Use-Encryption-412387.shtml | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | "abstract: full disk encryption" | Dec 28 19:02 |
| TechrightsBN | -> news.softpedia.com | All Linux Distributions Store Wi-Fi Passwords in Plain Text If You Don’t Use Encryption [ http://ur1.ca/g9w5v ] | Dec 28 19:02 |
| schestowitz | "best solution: full disk encryption" | Dec 28 19:03 |
| schestowitz | Even startring afresh with a new DB name led to the same outcome; it takes about 10 minutes of processing (2 cores) before the error comes up. | Dec 28 19:22 |
| schestowitz | [root@techrights boycottn]# nice -9 mysql -u root | Dec 28 19:22 |
| schestowitz | -h localhost tuxmachines < drupal.sql | Dec 28 19:22 |
| schestowitz | ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 3880: Duplicate entry 'maß' for key 'PRIMARY' | Dec 28 19:22 |
| schestowitz | It is worth noting that in a previous iteration when I exported a damaged DB and then imported I still got the same error, so it's basically repeatable based on two dumps weeks apart. | Dec 28 19:22 |
| schestowitz | >> I'm not sure if Susan has a history of testing import/export. Last I | Dec 28 19:27 |
| schestowitz | >> checked, the DB needed repair, which I did... but it's not enough. | Dec 28 19:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:27 |
| schestowitz | > To go nuclear, what happens when you rem out the offending lines on | Dec 28 19:27 |
| schestowitz | > import? Is there a way to look up which record is corrupted and maybe | Dec 28 19:27 |
| schestowitz | > repair it manually? If that works and there are only one or two then | Dec 28 19:27 |
| schestowitz | > that might be an option. | Dec 28 19:27 |
| schestowitz | This might be a last resort, but I'd rather understand what the problem is. | Dec 28 19:27 |
| schestowitz | >> It is worth noting that in a previous iteration when I exported a | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> damaged DB and then imported I still got the same error, so it's | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> basically repeatable based on two dumps weeks | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> apart. | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > What does line 3800 say? And why is it using a German 'ß' in the data? | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > There must be at least one other line like that. | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | ('few',47919,'node',2),('maß',47919,'node',1),('augustiner',47919,'node',1),('fact',47919,'node',1) | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | And also | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | ('maß',0.199379),('augustiner',0.30103) | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | In data field: | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | "more than a few maß of augustiner in fac" | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | ('marysomervillestraße',0.30103),('28359',0.30103) | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | The third and fourth are not an issue. I guess 1 and 2 are a conflict, perhaps mutiple users with the same username. Maybe I should try to edit one and see what happens.... | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> Even startring afresh with a new DB name led to the same outcome; it | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> takes about 10 minutes of processing (2 cores) before the error comes up. | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> [root@techrights boycottn]# nice -9 mysql -u root | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> -h localhost tuxmachines < drupal.sql | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 3880: Duplicate entry 'maß' for key 'PRIMARY' | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> It is worth noting that in a previous iteration when I exported a | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> damaged DB and then imported I still got the same error, so it's | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> basically repeatable based on two dumps weeks | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | >> apart. | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > What does line 3800 say? And why is it using a German 'ß' in the data? | Dec 28 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > There must be at least one other line like that. | Dec 28 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > /Lars | Dec 28 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:36 |
| schestowitz | I meant line 3880... | Dec 28 19:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 28 19:36 |
| schestowitz | > Well, going from the one error message some how at least two records | Dec 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > have duplicate primary keys, a situation that should not have been able | Dec 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > to happen. Not being an expert in MySQL I can only take a wild guess | Dec 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > that maybe that is the result of the corruption you mentioned or maybe | Dec 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > it is an artifact of an older database structure that was not so strict | Dec 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > with keys. | Dec 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > What does line 3880 say eand can you find another line or two with the | Dec 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | > same value for the key field? | Dec 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | The possibilities you mentioned sound very wise; it might be a contraint broken on the go and conflict when importing. I will edit the SQL. | Dec 28 19:37 |
| schestowitz | manual edit of a very large file is not something I wish to do (although nano has good search functionality), so I am doing it in a repeatable way and saving the result to a separate file: | Dec 28 19:48 |
| schestowitz | [root@techrights boycottn]# sed 's/('maß',0.1993/('maß2',0.1993/i;' drupal.sql > drupal-mab-edited.sql | Dec 28 19:48 |
| schestowitz | >> [root@techrights boycottn]# sed 's/('maß',0.1993/('maß2',0.1993/i;' | Dec 28 20:02 |
| schestowitz | >> drupal.sql > drupal-mab-edited.sql | Dec 28 20:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 20:02 |
| schestowitz | > Might work. How many 'maß' were there? This might get just the first one: | Dec 28 20:02 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 20:02 |
| schestowitz | > sed '0,/('maß',0.1993/s/('maß',0.1993/('maß2',0.1993/1i;' \ | Dec 28 20:02 |
| schestowitz | > drupal.sql > drupal-mab-edited.sql | Dec 28 20:02 |
| schestowitz | despite testing on a small file, the above did not substitute anything, so a diff after a failed import led me to using nano, which is now hanging due to file size (800 MB). | Dec 28 20:02 |
| schestowitz | > I put the wrong quotes around the whole, | Dec 28 20:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 20:32 |
| schestowitz | > sed -e "0,/('maß',47919/s/('maß',47919/('maß2',0.1993/i;" | Dec 28 20:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 20:32 |
| schestowitz | > How are you with vi? | Dec 28 20:32 |
| schestowitz | I was using nano to edit while I got this. One way or another I hope to have proof of concept that the site is ready for migration (I got the domain now), first with Drupal, then Gallery2 (screenshots) that has a 3GB DB. | Dec 28 20:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3458220 | Dec 28 20:32 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Facebook Phone Fail http://readwrite.com/2013/12/20/top-10-tech-failures-of-2013#awesm #microsoft #facebook could not co-opt #android #linux | Dec 28 20:32 |
| TechrightsBN | ( status 404 @ http://readwrite.com/2013/12/20/top-10-tech-failures-of-2013#awesm ) | Dec 28 20:32 |
| schestowitz | "Motorola tried the same thing a while back -- that stupid 'hellomoto' thing. You had to sign up for Moto's social network to use the phone. I think they sold about 3 of them. Then later, Google bought Motorola's phone division to make their 'Droid' phones. They probably won't make too much headway against Samsung, though." | Dec 28 20:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3457594 | Dec 28 20:32 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Phoronix finally got over 100 comments (114 comments). How? By giving a platform to some incognito anti-RMS troll. Loss of credibility. | Dec 28 20:33 |
| schestowitz | "That's sad it had to be something like that..." | Dec 28 20:33 |
| schestowitz | > I'm going to have to call it a day quite soon. I hope that last try worked. | Dec 28 20:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3458225 | Dec 28 21:02 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "carriers for failing to implement technology to protect customers from surveillance as well as fraud" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/28/cell-phone-nsa-spying_n_4509609.html | Dec 28 21:02 |
| TechrightsBN | -> www.huffingtonpost.com | Cell Phone Carriers Didn't Use Tech Fixes To Combat NSA Spying: Expert [ http://ur1.ca/g9xpr ] | Dec 28 21:02 |
| schestowitz | "Besides the NSA doesn't have to hack SIM cards. Much easier to simply download from the unencrypted data stream down at the switch :-)" | Dec 28 21:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/416994898542206976 | Dec 28 21:03 |
| TechrightsBN | @glynmoody: @schestowitz not for the poorest, no; but for most western countries | Dec 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dredeyedick/status/416990983146860545 | Dec 28 21:04 |
| TechrightsBN | @dredeyedick: @schestowitz not kids, Roy. #Sockpuppets http://t.co/vkVe2mlq0z If they can't meet in meatspace, are they real? | Dec 28 21:04 |
| TechrightsBN | -> www.theguardian.com | Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media | Technology | The Guardian | Dec 28 21:04 |
| schestowitz | SUCCESS | Dec 28 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Interim URL: http://techrights.org/tuxmachines/www/apache2/ | Dec 28 21:54 |
| TechrightsBN | techrights.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? [ http://ur1.ca/g9xya ] | Dec 28 21:54 |
| schestowitz | I will need to sort out some file paths, bring DB up to date and maybe over new year's (quiet time) flip over DNS, although it's too optimistic a timescale. I still need to test the Gallery side and integration also. | Dec 28 21:54 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3437465 | Dec 22 11:45 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kopimism is a new religion for atheists, agnostics, and believers in other religions who want a new perspective" http://falkvinge.net/2013/12/21/good-midwinter-solstice-with-a-kopimist-gospel/ | Dec 22 11:45 |
| schestowitz__ | "I don't know of any rationalists that would be happy to proclaim a belief in "hidden magic". This seems like a way for agnostics to keep from facing their own existential angst and for New Agers to claim intellectual legitimacy." | Dec 22 11:45 |
| TechrightsBN | -> falkvinge.net | Good Midwinter Solstice! With A Kopimist Gospel - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/g8dob ] | Dec 22 11:45 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3437473 | Dec 22 11:45 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Torrent is efficient transmission of data over existing #internet infrastructure and its painting as "copyright violation" been manufactured | Dec 22 11:45 |
| schestowitz__ | "I use the torrent for 100% legal things same download a GNU/Linux distribution! The stupid majors try say it's illegal...!!!" | Dec 22 11:45 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3436711 | Dec 22 11:51 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Antithetical to US http://gizmodo.com/sweden-is-closing-prisons-due-to-lack-of-people-to-put-1462950734 | Dec 22 11:51 |
| TechrightsBN | -> gizmodo.com | Sweden Is Closing Prisons Due to Lack of People to Put In Them [ http://ur1.ca/g8n1d ] | Dec 22 11:51 |
| schestowitz__ | "Well, see, that's because it isn't a private prison. US prisons are flourishing because they are businesses .." | Dec 22 11:51 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3437473 | Dec 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz__ | "Just thinking about it is wrong!" | Dec 23 06:08 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Dec 23 07:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Coca-Cola was named back in 1885 for its two "medicinal" ingredients: extract of coca leaves and kola nuts. Just how much cocaine was originally in the formulation is hard to determine, but the drink undeniably contained some cocaine in its early days. | Dec 23 07:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Read more at http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp#wCXRjYhCThq5yubr.99 | Dec 23 07:36 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Dec 23 07:36 |
| TechrightsBN | ( status 404 @ http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp#wCXRjYhCThq5yubr.99 ) | Dec 23 07:36 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | E-mail this page E-mail this | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Search | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Dec 23 07:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | 37 5Tumblr 0 8Reddit 16Email 1.7KShare 116Tweet | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Cocaine-Cola | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Claim: Coca-Cola used to contain cocaine. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | PARTLY TRUE | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Origins: Coca-Cola was named back in 1885 for its two "medicinal" ingredients: extract of coca leaves and kola nuts. Just how much cocaine was originally in the formulation is hard to determine, but the drink undeniably contained some cocaine in its early days. Frederick Allen describes the public attitude towards cocaine that existed as Coca-Cola's developers worked on perfecting their formula in 1891: | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | The first stirrings of a national debate had begun over the negative aspects of cocaine, and manufacturers were growing defensive over charges that use of their products might lead to "cocainism" or the "cocaine habit". The full-throated fury against cocaine was still a few years off, and Candler and Robinson were anxious to continue promoting the supposed benefits of the coca leaf, but there was no reason to risk putting more | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | than a tiny bit of coca extract in their syrup. They cut the amount to a mere trace. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Allen also explains that cocaine continued to be an ingredient in the syrup in order to protect the trade name "Coca-Cola": | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | But neither could Candler take the simple step of eliminating the fluid extract of coca leaves from the formula. Candler believed that his product's name had to be descriptive, and that he must have at least some by-product of the coca leaf in the syrup (along with some kola) to protect his right to the name Coca-Cola. Protecting the name was critical. Candler had no patent on the syrup itself. Anyone could make an imitation. But | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | no one could put the label "Coca-Cola" on an imitation so long as Candler owned the name. The name was the thing of real value, and the registered trademark was its only safeguard. Coca leaves had to stay in the syrup. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | How much cocaine was in that "mere trace" is impossible to say, but we do know that by 1902 it was as little as 1/400 of a grain of cocaine per ounce of syrup. Coca-Cola didn't become completely cocaine-free until 1929, but there was scarcely any of the drug left in the drink by then: | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | By Heath's calculation, the amount of ecgonine [an alkaloid in the coca leaf that could be synthesized to create cocaine] was infinitesimal: no more than one part in 50 million. In an entire year's supply of 25-odd million gallons of Coca-Cola syrup, Heath figured, there might be six-hundredths of an ounce of cocaine. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | So, yes, at one time there was cocaine in Coca-Cola. But before you're tempted to run off claiming Coca-Cola turned | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | generations of drinkers into dope addicts, consider the following: back in 1885 it was far from uncommon to use cocaine in patent medicines (which is what Coca-Cola was originally marketed as) and other medical potions. When it first became general knowledge that cocaine could be harmful, the backroom chemists who comprised Coca-Cola at the time (long before it became the huge company we now know) did everything they could with | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | the technology they had available at the time to remove every trace of cocaine from the beverage. What was left behind (until the technology improved enough for it all to be removed) wasn't enough to give a fly a buzz. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Barbara "hooked on a feeling" Mikkelson | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Last updated: 19 May 2011 | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Urban Legends Reference Pages © 1995-2013 by Barbara and David P. Mikkelson. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | This material may not be reproduced without permission. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | snopes and the snopes.com logo are registered service marks of snopes.com. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Dec 23 07:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | Sources: | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Allen, Frederick. Secret Formula. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | New York: HarperCollins, 1994. ISBN 0-88730-672-1 (pp. 35-36, 41-42, 45, 192). | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Miller, Michael. "Things Go Better with Coca Extract." | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Rocky Mountain News. 22 November 1994 (p. A28). | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Morgan, Hal and Kerry Tucker. Rumor! | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | New York: Penguin Books, 1984. ISBN 0-14-007036-2 (pp. 65-66). | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Pendergrast, Mark. For God, Country, and Coca-Cola. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1993. ISBN 0-684-19347-7. | Dec 23 07:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Read more at http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp#wCXRjYhCThq5yubr.99 | Dec 23 07:38 |
| TechrightsBN | ( status 404 @ http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp#wCXRjYhCThq5yubr.99 ) | Dec 23 07:38 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | "Most Saxons remained in Germany, however, and resisted the expanding Frankish Empire through the leadership of the semi-legendary Saxon hero, Widukind." | Dec 23 08:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saxons | Dec 23 08:25 |
| TechrightsBN | en.wikipedia.org | Saxons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 23 08:25 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "During the Middle Ages, because of international Hanseatic trading routes and contingent migration, Saxons mixed with and had strong influences upon the languages and cultures of the North Germanic, Baltic peoples, Finnic peoples, Polabian Slavs and Pomeranian West Slavic people." | Dec 23 08:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The word also survives as the surnames Saß/Sass, Sachse and Sachs. The Dutch female first name "Saskia" originally meant "A Saxon woman" (alteration of "Saxia")." | Dec 23 08:27 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3440304 | Dec 24 02:00 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Theory: What If Search Engines Too Are Partly Subsidised by #NSA to Mine Our Minds? | Dec 24 02:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Part of USGov/Microsoft's slog against Google is infiltration and subversion. The way in was Google's focus on performance and building their interfaces around Windows, Flash, etc." | Dec 24 02:00 |
| TechrightsBN | -> techrights.org | Theory: What If Search Engines Too Are Partly Subsidised by NSA to Mine Our Minds? | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g8xd2 ] | Dec 24 02:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3441876 | Dec 24 02:15 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: keep offending... | Dec 24 02:15 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Yes, you bent-nosed homo toff, hehe...;-))" | Dec 24 02:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3443769 | Dec 24 02:16 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Mikhail #Kalashnikov, Creator of #AK-47, Dies at 94 | Dec 24 02:16 |
| TechrightsBN | Photo by jamesprothero@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_04da56e34a8f9bd49249.jpg | Dec 24 02:16 |
| TechrightsBN | -> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/g902j ] | Dec 24 02:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "More AK-47s have been produced then all other rifles combined." | Dec 24 02:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3443688 | Dec 24 02:16 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember when Bezos, who gets half a billion from the #cia bought the paper #washpo - already notorious for CIA ties? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/12/23/nsa-paranoia-enough-already/ | Dec 24 02:16 |
| TechrightsBN | -> www.washingtonpost.com | NSA paranoia: Enough already [ http://ur1.ca/g902l ] | Dec 24 02:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Yep!" | Dec 24 02:16 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > technically speaking, the content is licensed to linuxgizmos, not owned | Dec 24 02:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > by linuxgizmos, but I see no obstacle to maintaining it at | Dec 24 02:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > archive.linuxgizmos.com indefinitely! it's really nice to see it back | Dec 24 02:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > online. I've been enjoying looking at the early days. | Dec 24 02:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Dec 24 02:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > I think what QuinStreet did in this arrangement was extremely fair and | Dec 24 02:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > well intended. I certainly hope they receive some positive feedback ;-) | Dec 24 02:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Dec 24 02:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Best wishes for happy holidays and an amazing 2014! | Dec 24 02:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Yes, indeed. | Dec 24 02:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Well, in techrights I wrote 17,000+ posts in 7+ years and I'd hate to see all that vanishing; the archive still gets many hits. To some people, when a story makes no profit there's no motivation to keep it up; those people are not creative folks, all that matters to them is money. Oracle comes to mind... | Dec 24 02:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://linuxgizmos.com/linuxdevices-content-online-again/ | Dec 24 02:47 |
| TechrightsBN | linuxgizmos.com | LinuxDevices content returns to the Web · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/g8zxz ] | Dec 24 02:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Dec 24 02:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | One of most widely respected repositories of embedded and mobile Linux news and information has returned to the web as an archive hosted here at LinuxGizmos.com. | Dec 24 02:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | QuinStreet acquired LinuxDevices.com in Feb. 2012 through its purchase of a group of websites from publisher Ziff Davis Enterprise. After the acquisition, LinuxDevices remained frozen in time for about a year before vanishing in May, shortly after I launched LinuxGizmos.com. Following a constructive discussion about possibilities for bringing the LinuxDevices content back online, QuinStreet generously offered to license | Dec 24 02:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | LinuxGizmos to host the LinuxDevices Archive on our site, as a “holiday present to the Linux community.” | Dec 24 02:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Dec 24 02:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Back in 1999, Linux was still a babe in the woods, especially in embedded, but I was encouraged by the arrival of several startups devoted principally to embedded Linux — most notably, MontaVista Software, but also Lineo and several other smaller firms. Having co-founded Ampro Computers and having co-created the PC/104 form-factor I had seen how demand for Linux was growing in embedded systems that previously ran Windows CE | Dec 24 02:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | or various RTOSes (real-time operating systems) like VRTX and VxWorks. People wanted programmability, cost-effectiveness, networking savvy, and basically a smarter and more flexible operating environment. Linux gave it to them. Not all at once, mind you. The kernel evolved considerably during LinuxDevices.com’s 12-year lifespan including RT-Preempt real-time patches being merged into the 2.6 kernel), and was joined by key | Dec 24 02:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | open source components like BusyBox and JFFS2." | Dec 24 02:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I left LinuxDevices in Dec. 2007, turning the site over fully to Ziff Davis Enterprise. Under the direction of Henry Kingman, who stayed until 2009, and then Eric Brown and Jonathan Angel who remained until the site was acquired by QuinStreet in 2012, LinuxDevices tracked the continuing evolution of Linux into mobile devices. The site documented the emergence of WebOS and MeeGo (a merger of Maemo and Moblin), which like most | Dec 24 02:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Linux projects never quite disappeared. (They can be found in upcoming LG smart TVs and Jolla’s Sailfish OS, respectfully.) We covered the arrival of the BeagleBoard in 2008, and watched the open board concept spread to numerous imitators." | Dec 24 02:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | When LinuxDevices was up and running it was one of the most useful and objective sources of information; it would have been a huge loss if it didn't managed to stay online one way or another. | Dec 24 02:51 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/12/23/2326212/f-secures-mikko-hypponen-cancels-rsa-talk-in-protest | Dec 24 02:51 |
| TechrightsBN | beta.slashdot.org | F-Secure's Mikko Hypponen Cancels RSA Talk In Protest - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/g908u ] | Dec 24 02:51 |
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| schestowitz | Hi Rick, | Dec 24 05:07 |
| schestowitz | Any update on restoring Linux Devices stories? If they don't release these, then maybe getting them all from Web Archive to rehost would be worthwhile... I keep getting 404s on very unique and important articles, even in Wikipedia (just moments ago). | Dec 24 05:07 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 24 05:07 |
| schestowitz | It's all back online now | Dec 24 05:07 |
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| schestowitz__ | >>> I think what QuinStreet did in this arrangement was extremely fair | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> and well intended. I certainly hope they receive some positive | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> feedback ;-) | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >>> Best wishes for happy holidays and an amazing 2014! | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >> Yes, indeed. | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >> Well, in techrights I wrote 17,000+ posts in 7+ years and I'd hate | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >> to see all that vanishing; the archive still gets many hits. To some | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >> people, when a story makes no profit there's no motivation to keep | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >> it up; those people are not creative folks, all that matters to them | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >> is money. Oracle comes to mind... | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Dec 24 18:01 |
| schestowitz__ | > This is great news. It'd be better if the material were more than just | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > licensed but if Rick is happy then it is all good. It'd be really | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > great, when it is restored, if he could write up the recovery process, | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > even just generally, to increase awareness of the need for proactive | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > planning that digital materials require in regards to archiving. With | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > paper, you could decide after the fact. It took work to throw out | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > papers, and there were many copies floating around, in some cases | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > millions. With the web, there is only ever just one copy and when that | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > is gone, all access is gone. | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > With Slashdot in the hands of Dice, something bad will probably happen | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > there eventually, too. A lot of the old discussion and articles were | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > quite important. In some cases the discussion and summary are all | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > that's left of the original article. Even sites in benevolent hands, | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | > like Technocrat.net, vanish, too. | Dec 24 18:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Did Bruce not bring it back online at some point? Or migrate it to his? | Dec 24 18:02 |
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| schestowitz__ | > Dr. Roy, here is the user name and password for my new account. I use | Dec 25 20:46 |
| schestowitz__ | > Texstars baby with both LXDE and MATE desktops. | Dec 25 20:46 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3446456 | Dec 25 21:30 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Seven free, open source video editors for Linux | Dec 25 21:30 |
| TechrightsBN | -> www.networkworld.com | Seven free, open source video editors for Linux - Network World [ http://ur1.ca/g9dyp ] | Dec 25 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | I find Openshot is easy to use ..... very quick to use for cutting and clipping videos - also for converting to formats and a good list of conversions to post onto the web."77" | Dec 25 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | "I've used Kino and Kdenlive. Both are good, Kdenlive is excellent." | Dec 25 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | "I've used OpenShot myself, and found it quite useful even for my very first movie." | Dec 25 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | "Which one do you recommend?." | Dec 25 21:31 |
| schestowitz__ | I love openshot, kdenlive was too hard for me | Dec 25 21:31 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3420117 | Dec 25 21:31 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #firefox for #android is still a little buggy and deficient. Google's spyware (Chrome) not an option. What other decent options are there? | Dec 25 21:31 |
| schestowitz__ | "Also what about old good Tint Browser?" | Dec 25 21:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3451154 | Dec 26 20:47 |
| schestowitz | Possibly the backdoor gremlins hard at work."77" | Dec 26 20:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3451266 | Dec 26 20:48 |
| schestowitz | "I imagine many WTF during the Window$ coding :-D" | Dec 26 20:48 |
| schestowitz | "o tal vez unos "dios mio!"... cuando ven los pantallazos azules... XD (BSOD)" | Dec 26 20:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3452288 | Dec 26 20:49 |
| schestowitz | "There is one in every crowd..." | Dec 26 20:49 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3452502 | Dec 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | "Seeing things to actually change is believing. And following up some time to have peace of mind, like 10 years or more, just to be sure." | Dec 26 20:50 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3452334 | Dec 26 22:59 |
| schestowitz | "Sad. Me loves bananas." | Dec 26 22:59 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3452288 | Dec 27 20:37 |
| schestowitz | "I eventually painted lightning bolts on the helmet so that it went on forward. If I ever get another motorbike, it will have a checklist." | Dec 27 20:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3455384 | Dec 27 20:37 |
| schestowitz | "As long as they keep using non free software, the NSA has nothing to worry about." | Dec 27 20:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3455366 | Dec 27 20:37 |
| schestowitz | "That's the second Bloomberg article with distinctly Google shaped bad news I've seen in the last five minutes. The other was the source of <a href="https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3455384">this article about "no client data in USA"</a>." | Dec 27 20:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3455325 | Dec 27 20:38 |
| schestowitz | "This is the inverse of the old saw, "I'd never join a club that would have me as a member." The world is probably better off when people who think this is a good idea implement it." | Dec 27 20:38 |
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| TechrightsBN | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.71 | Dec 27 20:43 |
| schestowitz | does not mention she works for Linux Foundation, still https://twitter.com/noyesk | Dec 27 21:51 |
| TechrightsBN | twitter.com | Katherine Noyes (noyesk) on Twitter | Dec 27 21:51 |
| schestowitz | supports Snoden https://plus.google.com/105492284418862345045/posts/4tkt7ScBeJU | Dec 27 21:53 |
| TechrightsBN | plus.google.com | Katherine Noyes - Google+ - I Agree. [ http://ur1.ca/g9ryn ] | Dec 27 21:53 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3455314 | Dec 27 22:17 |
| TechrightsBN | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Linux distro Ubuntu enables SSD TRIM support by default http://www.myce.com/news/linux-distro-ubuntu-enables-ssd-trim-support-by-default-69983/ | Dec 27 22:17 |
| TechrightsBN | -> www.myce.com | Linux distro Ubuntu enables SSD TRIM support by default | Myce.com [ http://ur1.ca/g9s1r ] | Dec 27 22:17 |
| schestowitz | "You don't have to wait until Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be released somewhere in April next year to enable SSD TRIM. You can already do it today with the instructions of the Pinguy OS developer Antoni Norman: http://forum.pinguyos.com/Thread-Enable-TRIM-on-SSDs " | Dec 27 22:17 |
| TechrightsBN | forum.pinguyos.com | Enable TRIM on SSDs [ http://ur1.ca/g9s1u ] | Dec 27 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | >> think it's better to ignore for now; any publicity would only help | Dec 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz | >> it, unless there's some major backlash. | Dec 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz | > Agreed. But it is something to be ready for. | Dec 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz | > PS. Your reply came through unencrypted. | Dec 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz | Knowingly. Unless we can figure out a way to challenge Mono using this news, I see no point bringing it up in an article critical of Mono. | Dec 28 10:47 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I am watching what happens over the PS4. | Dec 28 11:37 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Dec 28 18:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:07 |
| schestowitz | > How can I help with the TuxMachines DB? As mentioned, my MySQL is a bit | Dec 28 18:07 |
| schestowitz | > rusty. | Dec 28 18:07 |
| schestowitz | My main problem right now is: | Dec 28 18:07 |
| schestowitz | [root@techrights boycottn]# nice -9 mysql -u root -h localhost drupal < drupal.sql | Dec 28 18:07 |
| schestowitz | ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 3880: Duplicate entry 'maß' for key 'PRIMARY' | Dec 28 18:07 |
| schestowitz | That's after I finally managed to export the DB from TM's original server. I just can't import it properly into the TR/new TM machine. | Dec 28 18:07 |
| schestowitz | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5860074/phpmyadmin-export-import-results-in-duplicate-primary-key-error | Dec 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | "During the import, I'm encountering a duplicate entry for primary key error. Trying to debug this, I exported the file, then imported the identical file, making no changes and I still get the same error." | Dec 28 18:09 |
| TechrightsBN | stackoverflow.com | mysql - phpMyAdmin export/import results in duplicate primary key error - Stack Overflow [ http://ur1.ca/g9x02 ] | Dec 28 18:09 |
| schestowitz | > Is the TM database already partially loaded? How much is there? What | Dec 28 18:11 |
| schestowitz | > is drupal.sql doing about existing records or tables? | Dec 28 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Good shot. And minutes ago I found out that this in fact might be the problem. I need to drop the tables before importing, it's not an override type system. :-) | Dec 28 18:11 |
| schestowitz | I will try this and get back to you. | Dec 28 18:12 |
| schestowitz | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5860074/phpmyadmin-export-import-results-in-duplicate-primary-key-error | Dec 28 18:12 |
| schestowitz | I have dropped the database, tried to import again, got a complaint about missing DB, so I recreated it by name as empty, then imported. Guess what? Still the same darn error message. Not sure what to do an searching the Web has not helped so far :-( | Dec 28 18:39 |
| schestowitz | > Does the drupal.sql file you are importing from create the db? AFAIK | Dec 28 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > that has to be specified when making the initial dump. Here's what I | Dec 28 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > used to use: | Dec 28 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > mysqldump druapl \ | Dec 28 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > --add-drop-table \ | Dec 28 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > --add-locks \ | Dec 28 18:45 |
| schestowitz | > --comments=0 \ | Dec 28 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > --create-options \ | Dec 28 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > --lock-tables \ | Dec 28 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > --no-data \ | Dec 28 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > -u root -p | Dec 28 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > It is the --create-options which are important. I'm not sure if they | Dec 28 18:46 |
| schestowitz | > are there by default. | Dec 28 18:46 |
| schestowitz | It takes me about an hour to dump the DB and copy it over to the other datacentre, so I will try the above only if I find no other solution in the coming hour. | Dec 28 18:46 |
| schestowitz | >> It takes me about an hour to dump the DB and copy it over to the other | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | >> datacentre, so I will try the above only if I find no other solution in | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | >> the coming hour. | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > It's possible to just dump the structure, the above has --no-data which | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > should make it fast and just get the structure. | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > · --no-data, -d | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > Do not write any table row information (that is, do | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > not dump table | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > contents). This is useful if you want to dump only | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > the CREATE TABLE | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > statement for the table (for example, to create an | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > empty copy of | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > the table by loading the dump file). | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/en/man1/mysqldump.1.html | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | I'm assuming the error I get would be different if structures were altogether improper to facilitate the import. | Dec 28 18:52 |
| TechrightsBN | manpages.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu Manpage: mysqldump - a database backup program [ http://ur1.ca/g9x6y ] | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | > This is on CentOS or Debian? | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | One is Debian (old) and another CentOS. | Dec 28 18:52 |
| schestowitz | >> I'm assuming the error I get would be different if structures were | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | >> altogether improper to facilitate the import. | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > I was thinking it would be worth trying to just import the structure | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > alone first and see how that goes. I don't have MySQL around to test, | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > but with the drupal.sql you have, it might be possible to make a copy of | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > the file and then edit out the drop/create tables info and just leave | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > the data and try importing data separate from the structure. | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > Obviously there seems to be some duplicate primary key data, but how did | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > it get there and how many other such errors are there? | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | >>> This is on CentOS or Debian? | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | >> One is Debian (old) and another CentOS. | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | > Thanks. | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | I'm not sure if Susan has a history of testing import/export. Last I checked, the DB needed repair, which I did... but it's not enough. | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3457398 | Dec 28 19:00 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not just Ubuntu: All #GNU #Linux Distributions Store Wi-Fi Passwords in Plain Text If You Don’t Use Encryption http://news.softpedia.com/news/All-Linux-Distributions-Store-Wi-Fi-Passwords-in-Plain-Text-If-You-Don-t-Use-Encryption-412387.shtml | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | "abstract: full disk encryption" | Dec 28 19:00 |
| TechrightsBN | -> news.softpedia.com | All Linux Distributions Store Wi-Fi Passwords in Plain Text If You Don’t Use Encryption [ http://ur1.ca/g9w5v ] | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | "best solution: full disk encryption" | Dec 28 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Even startring afresh with a new DB name led to the same outcome; it takes about 10 minutes of processing (2 cores) before the error comes up. | Dec 28 19:20 |
| schestowitz | [root@techrights boycottn]# nice -9 mysql -u root | Dec 28 19:20 |
| schestowitz | -h localhost tuxmachines < drupal.sql | Dec 28 19:20 |
| schestowitz | ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 3880: Duplicate entry 'maß' for key 'PRIMARY' | Dec 28 19:20 |
| schestowitz | It is worth noting that in a previous iteration when I exported a damaged DB and then imported I still got the same error, so it's basically repeatable based on two dumps weeks apart. | Dec 28 19:20 |
| schestowitz | >> I'm not sure if Susan has a history of testing import/export. Last I | Dec 28 19:25 |
| schestowitz | >> checked, the DB needed repair, which I did... but it's not enough. | Dec 28 19:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:25 |
| schestowitz | > To go nuclear, what happens when you rem out the offending lines on | Dec 28 19:25 |
| schestowitz | > import? Is there a way to look up which record is corrupted and maybe | Dec 28 19:25 |
| schestowitz | > repair it manually? If that works and there are only one or two then | Dec 28 19:25 |
| schestowitz | > that might be an option. | Dec 28 19:25 |
| schestowitz | This might be a last resort, but I'd rather understand what the problem is. | Dec 28 19:25 |
| schestowitz | >> It is worth noting that in a previous iteration when I exported a | Dec 28 19:32 |
| schestowitz | >> damaged DB and then imported I still got the same error, so it's | Dec 28 19:32 |
| schestowitz | >> basically repeatable based on two dumps weeks | Dec 28 19:32 |
| schestowitz | >> apart. | Dec 28 19:32 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:32 |
| schestowitz | > What does line 3800 say? And why is it using a German 'ß' in the data? | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > There must be at least one other line like that. | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | ('few',47919,'node',2),('maß',47919,'node',1),('augustiner',47919,'node',1),('fact',47919,'node',1) | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | And also | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | ('maß',0.199379),('augustiner',0.30103) | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | In data field: | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | "more than a few maß of augustiner in fac" | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | ('marysomervillestraße',0.30103),('28359',0.30103) | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | The third and fourth are not an issue. I guess 1 and 2 are a conflict, perhaps mutiple users with the same username. Maybe I should try to edit one and see what happens.... | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | >> Even startring afresh with a new DB name led to the same outcome; it | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | >> takes about 10 minutes of processing (2 cores) before the error comes up. | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | >> [root@techrights boycottn]# nice -9 mysql -u root | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | >> -h localhost tuxmachines < drupal.sql | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | >> ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 3880: Duplicate entry 'maß' for key 'PRIMARY' | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | >> | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | >> It is worth noting that in a previous iteration when I exported a | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | >> damaged DB and then imported I still got the same error, so it's | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | >> basically repeatable based on two dumps weeks | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | >> apart. | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > What does line 3800 say? And why is it using a German 'ß' in the data? | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > There must be at least one other line like that. | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > /Lars | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I meant line 3880... | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 28 19:33 |
| schestowitz | > Well, going from the one error message some how at least two records | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > have duplicate primary keys, a situation that should not have been able | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > to happen. Not being an expert in MySQL I can only take a wild guess | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > that maybe that is the result of the corruption you mentioned or maybe | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > it is an artifact of an older database structure that was not so strict | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > with keys. | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > What does line 3880 say eand can you find another line or two with the | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | > same value for the key field? | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | The possibilities you mentioned sound very wise; it might be a contraint broken on the go and conflict when importing. I will edit the SQL. | Dec 28 19:35 |
| schestowitz | manual edit of a very large file is not something I wish to do (although nano has good search functionality), so I am doing it in a repeatable way and saving the result to a separate file: | Dec 28 19:46 |
| schestowitz | [root@techrights boycottn]# sed 's/('maß',0.1993/('maß2',0.1993/i;' drupal.sql > drupal-mab-edited.sql | Dec 28 19:46 |
| schestowitz | >> [root@techrights boycottn]# sed 's/('maß',0.1993/('maß2',0.1993/i;' | Dec 28 20:00 |
| schestowitz | >> drupal.sql > drupal-mab-edited.sql | Dec 28 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > Might work. How many 'maß' were there? This might get just the first one: | Dec 28 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > sed '0,/('maß',0.1993/s/('maß',0.1993/('maß2',0.1993/1i;' \ | Dec 28 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > drupal.sql > drupal-mab-edited.sql | Dec 28 20:00 |
| schestowitz | despite testing on a small file, the above did not substitute anything, so a diff after a failed import led me to using nano, which is now hanging due to file size (800 MB). | Dec 28 20:00 |
| schestowitz | > I put the wrong quotes around the whole, | Dec 28 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > sed -e "0,/('maß',47919/s/('maß',47919/('maß2',0.1993/i;" | Dec 28 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 28 20:29 |
| schestowitz | > How are you with vi? | Dec 28 20:29 |
| schestowitz | I was using nano to edit while I got this. One way or another I hope to have proof of concept that the site is ready for migration (I got the domain now), first with Drupal, then Gallery2 (screenshots) that has a 3GB DB. | Dec 28 20:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3458220 | Dec 28 20:30 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Facebook Phone Fail http://readwrite.com/2013/12/20/top-10-tech-failures-of-2013#awesm #microsoft #facebook could not co-opt #android #linux | Dec 28 20:30 |
| TechrightsBN | ( status 404 @ http://readwrite.com/2013/12/20/top-10-tech-failures-of-2013#awesm ) | Dec 28 20:30 |
| schestowitz | "Motorola tried the same thing a while back -- that stupid 'hellomoto' thing. You had to sign up for Moto's social network to use the phone. I think they sold about 3 of them. Then later, Google bought Motorola's phone division to make their 'Droid' phones. They probably won't make too much headway against Samsung, though." | Dec 28 20:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3457594 | Dec 28 20:30 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Phoronix finally got over 100 comments (114 comments). How? By giving a platform to some incognito anti-RMS troll. Loss of credibility. | Dec 28 20:30 |
| schestowitz | "That's sad it had to be something like that..." | Dec 28 20:30 |
| schestowitz | > I'm going to have to call it a day quite soon. I hope that last try worked. | Dec 28 20:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3458225 | Dec 28 21:00 |
| TechrightsBN | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "carriers for failing to implement technology to protect customers from surveillance as well as fraud" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/28/cell-phone-nsa-spying_n_4509609.html | Dec 28 21:00 |
| TechrightsBN | -> www.huffingtonpost.com | Cell Phone Carriers Didn't Use Tech Fixes To Combat NSA Spying: Expert [ http://ur1.ca/g9xpr ] | Dec 28 21:00 |
| schestowitz | "Besides the NSA doesn't have to hack SIM cards. Much easier to simply download from the unencrypted data stream down at the switch :-)" | Dec 28 21:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/416994898542206976 | Dec 28 21:01 |
| TechrightsBN | @glynmoody: @schestowitz not for the poorest, no; but for most western countries | Dec 28 21:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dredeyedick/status/416990983146860545 | Dec 28 21:01 |
| TechrightsBN | @dredeyedick: @schestowitz not kids, Roy. #Sockpuppets http://t.co/vkVe2mlq0z If they can't meet in meatspace, are they real? | Dec 28 21:01 |
| TechrightsBN | -> www.theguardian.com | Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media | Technology | The Guardian | Dec 28 21:01 |
| schestowitz | SUCCESS | Dec 28 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Interim URL: http://techrights.org/tuxmachines/www/apache2/ | Dec 28 21:51 |
| TechrightsBN | techrights.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle? [ http://ur1.ca/g9xya ] | Dec 28 21:51 |
| schestowitz | I will need to sort out some file paths, bring DB up to date and maybe over new year's (quiet time) flip over DNS, although it's too optimistic a timescale. I still need to test the Gallery side and integration also. | Dec 28 21:51 |
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