IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Feburary 2nd, 2014-Feburary 8th, 2014

MinceR	doesn't it get cold in indiana? :>	Feb 02 00:00
DaemonFC	I don't even know why I squeeze the toothpaste out of the tube. When I was at the post office one day, the thought occurred to me that Colgate had sent out a $1 off coupon in the junk mail that week, and Kroger had the toothpaste for $1 per 4.6 ounce tube.	Feb 02 00:19
DaemonFC	So I fished all of the coupons out of the trash at the post office and bought over 100 tubes of toothpaste the next time I went to the store for milk and bread.	Feb 02 00:19
DaemonFC	That was definitely one of my stranger shopping trips.	Feb 02 00:20
DaemonFC	I did the same thing with Edge shave gel. I had dozens of $1 off coupons, and Kroger clearanced out the "sensitive skin" one for 88 cents, so I bought everything on the shelf, and then went into the back to use the restroom. On my way out, I looked for more unopened cases of it and found several of them, so I bought those too.	Feb 02 00:21
DaemonFC	They paid me 22 cents per can.	Feb 02 00:21
DaemonFC	:)	Feb 02 00:21
DaemonFC	I managed to find 52 cans of it in total.	Feb 02 00:22
MinceR	:)	Feb 02 00:22
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxUN0ZLH5THGBO	Feb 02 00:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: President Obama has issued fewer executive orders than any president since Grover Cleveland. [ http://ur1.ca/gjnz1 ]	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	Which ones do right-wingers actually find controversial?	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	Please list them and why you think each one is controversial.	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	If you could also provide information about which sections of which orders violate any particular section of the constitution or the United States Code, please provide this information as well.	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	Thank you.	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	If you need help, here's the entire list with links to the text of each order. There are 166 in total, and most of them make for some pretty dry reading.	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders_13489_and_above	Feb 02 00:26
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| List of United States federal executive orders 13489 and above - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gjnz2 ]	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	My favorite was the one where he provided for an order of succession in the department of agriculture.	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	Clearly, he's up to something.... rolls eyes	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	Tyrone Slothrop says:	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	That's for when the Cylons attack!	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	By your command!	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	Or the Daleks.	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	EXTERMINATE!	Feb 02 00:27
DaemonFC	Or the Cybermen.	Feb 02 00:27
DaemonFC	DELETE!	Feb 02 00:27
DaemonFC	Or the Borg.	Feb 02 00:27
DaemonFC	You will be assassinated. Resistance is futile. Your agricultural bureaucracy will be added to our own.	Feb 02 00:27
DaemonFC	I mean, the possibilities really are endless.	Feb 02 00:27
DaemonFC	assimilated	Feb 02 00:28
DaemonFC	damn autocorrect	Feb 02 00:29
MinceR	:)	Feb 02 00:29
DaemonFC	To be totally fair, federal agencies do tend to expand until there's nothing left that they don't do.	Feb 02 00:33
DaemonFC	The department of agriculture even has rent subsidies and low interest mortgage programs for rural areas.	Feb 02 00:34
DaemonFC	Even though the Housing and Urban Development and Federal Housing Agencies do the same kind of stuff.	Feb 02 00:34
DaemonFC	They all run their programs in rural areas.	Feb 02 00:35
DaemonFC	What would be the harm in getting rid of the USDA and FHA rent and mortgage programs and giving them to HUD?	Feb 02 00:35
DaemonFC	Would anyone notice?	Feb 02 00:35
DaemonFC	I'll bet it would save billions of dollars.	Feb 02 00:35
DaemonFC	There are several federal law enforcement agencies with overlapping mandates and jurisdiction.	Feb 02 00:36
DaemonFC	Would consolidating them all into the FBI save money? Probably.	Feb 02 00:36
DaemonFC	The USDA, FDA, and Department of Education all regulate the school lunch program.	Feb 02 00:37
DaemonFC	Would picking one agency to run the school lunch program hurt anyone?	Feb 02 00:38
DaemonFC	If you find anything the government does, you'll find three or four agencies and lots of duplications.	Feb 02 00:38
DaemonFC	You could probably consolidate all of the agencies and all of their programs, fire thousands of bureaucrats and federal agents, and get the same stuff done.	Feb 02 00:39
MinceR	gn	Feb 02 01:11
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	Unchained Capitalism only knows two rules.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	Do anything that you can get away with to make more money, and let the buyer beware.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	The system is unsustainable. The Republicans want that system, and most Democrats appear to want to give people just enough that they don't become angry and violent.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	Most Democrats want a system that curtails only the worst excesses of capitalism and saves it from itself. I don't think that's a good thing, but it's better than what the Republicans want to do.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	I don't like to consider myself a Democrat, because the mainstream party is too far to the right, but I do vote for them because it's less bad than the worst thing that could happen.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	Romney is a product of a system that rewards people for taking advantage of others and living a parasitic lifestyle. His father was a job creator and a producer. Romney is just a business criminal and a thug that wears a suit and steals from people using legal methods.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 01:39
DaemonFC	And on that topic, I refuse to ever pay money for books with DRM, where the maker of the computer that reads them has a backdoor and a delete button with which to control what is on my device, and I can't "move them to a different shelf" (another type of computer).	Feb 02 01:39
DaemonFC	If the publisher or Amazon threw a brick through the window of your living room and stole books from your bookshelf, that would be against the law.	Feb 02 01:39
DaemonFC	Why are they allowed to do the same thing and call it "Kindle Books"?	Feb 02 01:39
DaemonFC	Apple, Google, and Barnes & Noble do the same thing. I don't read books on my phone unless they have no DRM.	Feb 02 01:39
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 01:58
DaemonFC	Comcast cold called me on my cell phone the other day offering to save me money.	Feb 02 01:59
DaemonFC	By the time I got them to admit how much they were going to save me vs. my internet-only account, it was going to save me negative $120.	Feb 02 01:59
DaemonFC	It included home phone service so that I could talk to other telemarketers. :)	Feb 02 01:59
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2Z7UQQ5A3B8SN	Feb 02 05:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The NFL has about $9.5 billion in revenue and hasn't paid taxes since 1966. [ http://ur1.ca/gjowm ]	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	http://politicalloudmouth.com/2014/01/30/nfl-nonprofit-football-league/	Feb 02 05:08
TechrightsBot-tr	politicalloudmouth.com \| NFL = “Nonprofit Football League?” [ http://ur1.ca/gjowq ]	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	The NFL, not counting the players or teams themselves, has revenue of about $9.5 billion per year, and has not paid taxes since 1966.	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	They're tax-exempt as a "non-profit organization".	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	They're also one of the most extreme copyright and trademark trolls ever. "You can't record this without the permission of the NFL".	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	Does anyone's DVR forbid them from recording the game whose name shall not be spoken? Please tell me if it allows you to record the game or if an anti-feature kicks in and tells you that you can't do that.	Feb 02 05:08
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 07:16
DaemonFC	The GPL license is probably what has held the kernel Linux and the GNU system into single coherent projects, and not the somewhat incompatible mess that the various BSD operating systems (with their "permissive" non-copyleft licensing) have, where companies like Apple take whatever the hell they want, and give back whatever they feel like.	Feb 02 07:16
DaemonFC	It's caused a huge huge HUGE mess over in BSD-land. Corporations don't like to cooperate. The GPL simply requires them to or they face legal consequences. It probably also explains why none of the BSDs are as technically advanced, overall, as GNU and Linux are.	Feb 02 07:16
DaemonFC	Various GNU/Linux distributions are usually broadly compatible with one another, even though there are many of them, while from BSD to BSD, an entire swath of features that exists in one may not exist at all in the others.	Feb 02 07:16
DaemonFC	Ironically, wanting to be "friendly" to corporations with the BSD license has created a situation where the BSD operating systems aren't very good and Google and other companies didn't even really bother to create consumer products out of them. Apple is an odd exception. The BSD philosophy is the tragedy of the commons.	Feb 02 07:16
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DaemonFC	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4OTY	Feb 02 08:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Ubuntu Planning To Develop Its Own File Manager [ http://ur1.ca/gjplc ]	Feb 02 08:13
DaemonFC	Apparently, Unity is switching to Qt 5 and Ubuntu is developing their own file manager.	Feb 02 08:13
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 08:34
DaemonFC	http://www.occupydemocrats.com/in-rare-moment-of-honesty-wal-mart-admits-that-food-stamps-subsidize-their-profits/	Feb 02 08:34
TechrightsBot-tr	www.occupydemocrats.com \| In Rare Moment of Honesty, Wal-Mart Admits that Food Stamps Subsidize their Profits [ http://ur1.ca/gjpog ]	Feb 02 08:34
DaemonFC	Every cloud has the silver lining.	Feb 02 08:34
DaemonFC	Some Walmart stores have 35% of their store revenue coming from food stamps, and most of their employees are propped up by food stamps as well, because work at Walmart pays them almost nothing.	Feb 02 08:34
DaemonFC	I haven't shopped at a Walmart since I left my position as an assistant manager in 2006.	Feb 02 08:34
DaemonFC	Even then, I didn't actually shop there too much. I've always hated the company, but it was a job when nobody else was hiring, even though it didn't pay the bills for the first year I worked there ($6.95 an hour in 2004).	Feb 02 08:34
DaemonFC	The Store Manager we had was awful. He actually kept tabs on how many times you slid your discount card so that he would know how much of your money was going right back to Walmart.	Feb 02 08:34
DaemonFC	He yelled at me one month because I only spent a few dollars on a deli sandwich and some chips because I forget and left my lunch at home.	Feb 02 08:34
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DaemonFC	When I worked at Walmart, I slid my discount card for everyone I knew.	Feb 02 09:26
DaemonFC	You could get fired for that, but they never caught me.	Feb 02 09:26
DaemonFC	Probably cost them over $1,000.	Feb 02 09:27
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	Microsoft has a habit of using undocumented features in their software to make their programs do things that others can't.	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	For a long time, we had the problem of relatively slow computers (think late 90s, early 2000s) and web browsers. Windows would start up and preload most of the stuff it took to run Internet Explorer, while other browsers couldn't do that.	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	If you wanted to use Internet Explorer, it only took a second or two to open it. If you wanted to use Netscape (later Mozilla), it took about 10 seconds to load. In the mean time, you got a splash screen to look at.	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	It was one of the monopoly abuses that came up in United States v. Microsoft.	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	Also, around the time of the Internet Explorer 4 "shell update" for Windows 95, and the new IE shell integration in Windows 98 (which effectively tripled the memory requirements of the shell and caused it to leak and frequently crash, but oh well, that's Microsoft), Netscape Navigator started to crash a lot where that hardly ever happened before.	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	Anyway, this shell was a bloated leaky pile of crap, but it loaded nearly everything that Internet Explorer needed, and it caused all applications on the computer to run slower, but IE appeared to be "faster", and so that's what Microsoft did.	Feb 02 10:37
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Sosumi	call it the apple microsoft duopoly	Feb 02 11:36
Sosumi	also, you can install pretty much all you want on osx	Feb 02 11:37
Sosumi	if that is what is meant by sideloading	Feb 02 11:38
Sosumi	only iphone os requires jailbraking	Feb 02 11:38
Sosumi	osx is still not restricted to the app store, although	Feb 02 11:39
Sosumi	it comes restricted by default	Feb 02 11:39
Sosumi	but you can disable that on the security pane of the preferences menu	Feb 02 11:39
Sosumi	also, about exfat	Feb 02 12:25
Sosumi	when crapple implemented exfat on osx	Feb 02 12:25
Sosumi	volumes formated on osx would fail to open on windows	Feb 02 12:26
Sosumi	forcing the user to format the volume on windows in order to guarantee compatibility	Feb 02 12:26
Sosumi	thanks to M$ screwing up standards that they themselves have created	Feb 02 12:27
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iophk	http://www.trinitonian.com/2014/01/31/warning-do-not-trust-your-internet-service-provider/	Feb 02 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.trinitonian.com \| Warning: do not trust your internet service provider \| Trinitonian [ http://ur1.ca/gjqtf ]	Feb 02 12:47
iophk	http://bsdly.blogspot.fi/2014/02/effective-spam-and-malware.html	Feb 02 13:23
TechrightsBot-tr	bsdly.blogspot.fi \| That grumpy BSD guy: Effective Spam and Malware Countermeasures - Network Noise Reduction Using Free Tools [ http://ur1.ca/gjqxg ]	Feb 02 13:23
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MinceR	geekings	Feb 02 14:08
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iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/tarantino-google-140201/	Feb 02 15:46
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Google Refuses to Remove Links to Tarantino's Leaked Script \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gjrft ]	Feb 02 15:46
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/31/microsoft_backed_icomp_demands_another_market_test_of_latest_google_offer_to_ec/	Feb 02 15:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| Microsoft-backed lobby group demands market test of Google's proposed 'search fix' • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gjrgs ]	Feb 02 15:55
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Sosumi	http://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=457776&d=1390463883	Feb 02 17:23
iophk	http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/LXLE-Gives-New-Zest-to-Old-Machines-79898.html	Feb 02 17:34
TechrightsBot-tr	www.linuxinsider.com \| LXLE Gives New Zest to Old Machines \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/gjl83 ]	Feb 02 17:34
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3277200	Feb 02 20:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This 23-year-old’s open-source project, a server running on Raspberry Pi, gives the middle finger to Google http://venturebeat.com/2013/11/10/arkos-secure-google-alternative/	Feb 02 20:40
TechrightsBot-tr	-> venturebeat.com \| This 23-year-old's open-source project, a server running on Raspberry Pi, gives the middle finger to Google \| VentureBeat \| Security \| by Dylan Tweney [ http://ur1.ca/g0fnr ]	Feb 02 20:40
schestowitz__	"Nice. Hopefully ArkOS can play some part in helping to help bridge a few of the distributed, foss social network projects via tent."	Feb 02 20:41
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3590318	Feb 02 20:41
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Philip K. Dick's Paranoid Science Fiction Has Largely Become Our Everyday Reality http://www.businessinsider.com/philip-k-dick-predictions-2014-1 and we let it, by following decoys	Feb 02 20:41
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.businessinsider.com \| Philip K. Dick Predictions - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gjm7a ]	Feb 02 20:41
schestowitz__	"[ waking life ] is a fine cinematographic statement on the man's work that could well be interpreted in a positive light."	Feb 02 20:41
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msb_	Think of it from the point of view of a visitor to our planet. We've now created technology that creates most of what we need with about 1/4 of the work-hours that it used to take us. Shouldn't that be wonderful for us? No! Because of the pandemic psychopathy, half of us are out of work and homeless and starving!	Feb 03 12:33
msb_	Our ultra-wealthy psychopath rulers are using GMO food, fluoride in water, mercury and aluminum in vaccines, and wars to kill us off, and to make even more money for themselves that they couldn't spend in a thousand lifetimes.	Feb 03 12:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nvidia gets even more open saucy	Feb 03 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pRXHGP6E8Z	Feb 03 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjxi5	Feb 03 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Developer Prepares uTorrent GTK Client for	Feb 03 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, Are You Interested?	Feb 03 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pMMlYg7Cv1	Feb 03 14:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Download Linux Kernel 3.14 Release Candidate 1	Feb 03 14:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Findings from working on Red Hat's installer	Feb 03 14:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/i09ibin0Wl	Feb 03 14:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines There's no better time for governments to go	Feb 03 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	open source http://t.co/JpqmTyXhSK	Feb 03 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjycs	Feb 03 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open-Source Hardware: Prepare For Disruption	Feb 03 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FdDrCTZO8H	Feb 03 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjyct	Feb 03 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Windows XP and Windows 8: The worst possible	Feb 03 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	combination for Microsoft	Feb 03 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FN3HePqe51	Feb 03 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gjycv	Feb 03 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/C7UuWZi6Bv	Feb 03 16:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 7: MATE http://t.co/VsPAG2g8Wf	Feb 03 17:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk0g4	Feb 03 17:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cloud Migration Service Shifts From IBM i To	Feb 03 17:29
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/0b6IdtQieA	Feb 03 17:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk0g6	Feb 03 17:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What will drive mainstream desktop Linux?	Feb 03 17:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/bf6kEnUNl1	Feb 03 17:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk0g8	Feb 03 17:29
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.71	Feb 03 17:46
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schestowitz	Seagate say they'll call back soon re bad drives	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	"	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	Hi Kerstin	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	Finally I speak to an actual person.	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	See below;	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	Hash: SHA1	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	> In order to receive a response to your inquiry, please contact your	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	> customer support:	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	>	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	> _http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/about/contact-us/technical-support/_	Feb 03 17:54
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 404 @ http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/about/contact-us/technical-support/_/ )	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	There is no customer support there. There is:	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	"Create a Support Case"	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	This is for other type of queries. It would take me nowhere.	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	Please reply to my original query.	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	Badmouthing you for horrible service (in public) would be my next resort.	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	"	Feb 03 17:54
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iophk	Two dead drives in a row from them?	Feb 03 17:57
schestowitz	yeah!	Feb 03 17:58
schestowitz	See my blog	Feb 03 17:58
Sosumi	from whom?	Feb 03 17:58
Sosumi	seagate?	Feb 03 17:58
schestowitz	yeah, their official account is trying to silence me now https://twitter.com/AskSeagate/status/430381763656187904	Feb 03 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@AskSeagate: @schestowitz We have found your email support case 03930066 & will have an agent from your region contact you ASAP during our business hours	Feb 03 17:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AskSeagate/status/430373632578433024 https://twitter.com/AskSeagate/status/430373369616543744	Feb 03 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@AskSeagate: @schestowitz @seagate 8am-5pm CET Mon-Fri or email: http://t.co/HdzOCsljD2 This would be proper contacts to resolve this problem	Feb 03 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> support2.seagate.com \| NO TITLE	Feb 03 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@AskSeagate: @schestowitz @seagate We apologize for the problem with the replacement drive.Please contact our warranty dept at freephone 00.800.4732.4283	Feb 03 17:59
schestowitz	Official account: https://twitter.com/Seagate/status/430363295778754560 https://twitter.com/Seagate/status/430342123976548353	Feb 03 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@Seagate: @schestowitz @AskSeagate Support is available to help Mon-Fri 8:00a-6:00p Central Time (US), so they should be on very soon!	Feb 03 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@Seagate: @schestowitz I'm sorry about your negative experience. Please get in touch with our support team @AskSeagate, so they can assist you.	Feb 03 17:59
Sosumi	lol, seagate shipping hdd refurbs again	Feb 03 17:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/CryptoPartyMCR/status/430330768548585473	Feb 03 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@CryptoPartyMCR: @schestowitz OOOH, your in manchester! Are you coming to the #freesoftware festival this week? http://t.co/FLmVGQYkTp - starts tonight!	Feb 03 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> freeasinfreedom.org.uk \| Free Software Festival – Manchester \| Free Software Foundation Europe - Manchester	Feb 03 17:59
iophk	Seagate got panned in recent reviews, too. This seems to support the findings.	Feb 03 18:00
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Sosumi	not a fan seagate	Feb 03 18:00
Sosumi	and always had problems with their drives	Feb 03 18:00
iophk	You'd figure that if the first drive was bad, they'd make a point of sending a good drive as a replacement.	Feb 03 18:00
schestowitz	they nought maxtor	Feb 03 18:00
schestowitz	not much option left, esp. for high volume drives	Feb 03 18:01
iophk	Hitachi?	Feb 03 18:01
schestowitz	My wife and I might come later this week	Feb 03 18:01
Sosumi	hitachi's hdd division got bought by a consortium belonging to WD	Feb 03 18:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/CryptoPartyMCR/status/430329890185805825	Feb 03 18:01
TechrightsBot-tr	@CryptoPartyMCR: @schestowitz yeah, it's harsh. I put it on #wikipedia - wonder who is behind it? Bored kids on an island or NSA, lol.	Feb 03 18:01
schestowitz	WD is evil for other reasons	Feb 03 18:02
schestowitz	and their drives are smaller and more expensive	Feb 03 18:02
schestowitz	Hitachi used to be IBM's HDD 'division'	Feb 03 18:02
Sosumi	but I'm yet to have a broken WD hdd	Feb 03 18:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/dailylinuxuser/status/430129278798151681 https://twitter.com/dailylinuxuser/status/430128776802885632	Feb 03 18:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@dailylinuxuser: @schestowitz Maybe the way to solve the surveillance thing is for everyone to start talking about the things they'd be interested in.	Feb 03 18:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@dailylinuxuser: @schestowitz I can only hope that come September that Scotland is an independant country	Feb 03 18:03
Sosumi	the same I can't say for toshiba, seagate and fujitsu	Feb 03 18:03
schestowitz	WD was very big back in the days	Feb 03 18:03
schestowitz	Do those companies do business with NSA too?	Feb 03 18:03
schestowitz	I know Seagate does...	Feb 03 18:03
iophk	probably	Feb 03 18:03
schestowitz	http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/02/03/seagate-evil-company/	Feb 03 18:03
TechrightsBot-tr	schestowitz.com \| schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » If You Are Not a Large-scale Privacy Violator, Then Seagate Does Not Care About You [ http://ur1.ca/gk13f ]	Feb 03 18:04
iophk	The CCC presentation / Guardian article mentioned HD firware getting cracked but I don't recall which brands.	Feb 03 18:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Nutzwert/status/430081780519944193	Feb 03 18:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@Nutzwert: @schestowitz My file-manager isEmacs.	Feb 03 18:05
schestowitz	iophk: many	Feb 03 18:05
schestowitz	I looked up the list again today, Seagate is one of several	Feb 03 18:05
schestowitz	Seagate is based near Apple	Feb 03 18:05
schestowitz	see the link in my rant from today, it shows the NSA flirtations	Feb 03 18:06
Sosumi	it is just an hdd...	Feb 03 18:07
Sosumi	unless it is one of those streaming or cloud boxes	Feb 03 18:08
Sosumi	I wouldn't be that much concerned	Feb 03 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Torvalds gives Nvidia software thumbs up, not	Feb 03 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	middle finger http://t.co/Ncc7qlD9kk	Feb 03 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk15x	Feb 03 18:09
TechrightsBot-tr	Couldn't resolve host 'www.tuxmachines.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/63120?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter )	Feb 03 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 VsFTP (Very Secure File Transfer Protocol)	Feb 03 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	Interview Questions and Answers	Feb 03 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/upcSoPa03o	Feb 03 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk161	Feb 03 18:09
TechrightsBot-tr	Couldn't resolve host 'www.tuxmachines.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/63121?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter )	Feb 03 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines February 2014 Issue of Linux Journal: Web	Feb 03 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	Development http://t.co/zna5CVt6pq	Feb 03 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk162	Feb 03 18:09
TechrightsBot-tr	Couldn't resolve host 'www.tuxmachines.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/63122?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter )	Feb 03 18:09
iophk	vsFTP is a program not a protocol...	Feb 03 18:10
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Sosumi	sry I have no idea how does "my cloud" editions of WD work	Feb 03 18:21
Sosumi	and I really don't care, since I'd never buy such thing to begin with	Feb 03 18:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430382351018102784 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430382069441904640 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430381901002858496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430381583686975488	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Clang Is Now Self-Hosting On Linux/FreeBSD SPARC64 http://t.co/FMi9FVmo6d #freebsd #unix #linux #clang #sparc	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> lists.cs.uiuc.edu \| [LLVMdev] LLVM/Clang on Sparc64	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: AMD Catalyst 14.1 Beta For Linux http://t.co/t2GIPFxtEZ #amd #linux	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.gamingonlinux.com \| GamingOnLinux - AMD Catalyst 14.1 Beta For Linux	Feb 03 18:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430381304744792064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430381145403191297 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430380467331031040	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Nvidia gets even more open saucy http://t.co/T7RiWp6XAK #nvidia #linux footsteps towards openness	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.techeye.net \| Nvidia gets even more open saucy - More saucy than a Brighton postcard \| TechEye	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Developer Prepares uTorrent GTK Client for Linux, Are You Interested? http://t.co/GzymddeMeK #gtk #gnome #gnu #linux	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Developer Prepares uTorrent GTK Client for Linux, Are You Interested?	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Download Linux Kernel 3.14 Release Candidate 1 http://t.co/aywSeDXZoG #linux #kernel	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Download Linux Kernel 3.14 Release Candidate 1	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Findings from working on Red Hat's installer http://t.co/jq5IRVfM5w #redhat #gnu #linux	Feb 03 18:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> opensource.com \| A Red Hat engineer's story of working on the staller \| opensource.com	Feb 03 18:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: There's no better time for governments to go open source http://t.co/Q71iSyQ5Az in light of #uk migrations	Feb 03 18:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> phys.org \| There's no better time for governments to go open source	Feb 03 18:23
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430380073322287104	Feb 03 18:24
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Open-Source Hardware: Prepare For Disruption http://t.co/qlQwRI2XHl #openhardware	Feb 03 18:24
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.informationweek.com \| Open-Source Hardware: Prepare For Disruption - InformationWeek	Feb 03 18:24
Sosumi	http://slashdot.org/topic/bi/windows-8-1-update-leaks/	Feb 03 18:26
TechrightsBot-tr	slashdot.org \| Windows 8.1 Update Leaks [ http://ur1.ca/gk1a8 ]	Feb 03 18:26
Sosumi	hint to M$	Feb 03 18:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430400493907505153 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430378098916204544 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430377471620288512 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430379215267962880	Feb 03 18:26
Sosumi	just copy kde	Feb 03 18:26
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @CryptoPartyMCR My wife and I might come later this week	Feb 03 18:26
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @AskSeagate @Seagate No response yet. Tell "Kerstin" (Seagate "Support") that Monday is a working day (no response since 8:35 AM)	Feb 03 18:26
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @Seagate @AskSeagate If you get a break from trying to silence abused customers, read http://t.co/PqkUYUhlFN	Feb 03 18:26
TechrightsBot-tr	-> schestowitz.com \| schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » If You Are Not a Large-scale Privacy Violator, Then Seagate Does Not Care About You	Feb 03 18:26
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @AskSeagate @Seagate This number is not for the #uk	Feb 03 18:26
iophk	http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2326613/german-hacker-group-the-ccc-files-a-lawsuit-against-the-government	Feb 03 18:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theinquirer.net \| German hacker group the CCC files a lawsuit against the government- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/gk1af ]	Feb 03 18:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430366048265990147 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430363799497871360 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430363298597715968	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Today in #Techrights http://t.co/mv9CXyeEQe	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	Couldn't resolve host 'www.tuxmachines.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/63116 )	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @Seagate @AskSeagate I sure hope so because they're not doing good job. BTW, it's Seagate Europe that got assigned to me. No response. 7hrs	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA #Seagate : send million hard-drives to infringe people's privacy; Seagate responds. People: we lose our own data. Seagate: tumbleweed.	Feb 03 18:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430362519224348672 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430361919128866816 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430361422162579457 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430352582939119616 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430343148523364352	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @seagate I know you're PR account, but your technical folks are not responsive. Need I be a criminal like #nsa (your biz partner) for reply?	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #seagate asked to email; no reply yet. Asked to tweet them; no reply. I'm no big client of theirs like #nsa and #gchq (profiting from crime)	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: USPTO Still a Sham; Microsoft, Apple and IBM Still Part of the Problem and Google/Linux a Common Victim http://t.co/46EA7N5UNm #uspto #ibm	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| USPTO Still a Sham; Microsoft, Apple and IBM Still Part of the Problem and Google/Linux a Common Victim \| Techrights	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Amid Financial Misconduct #Microsoft Fights Against Basic Tech Rights, Obviously in Attempt to Squeeze Out More Money http://t.co/dm91OO4ImZ	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Amid Financial Misconduct Microsoft Fights Against Basic Tech Rights, Obviously in an Attempt to Squeeze Out More Money \| Techrights	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @AskSeagate you sent a faulty drive to replace a faulty drive. I wasted days on this mess. At this stage I want a refund, not another drive.	Feb 03 18:29
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/freenodestaff/status/430324543417499648 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430334307044184064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430327666768490497	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@freenodestaff: @CryptoPartyMCR just a DDOS. Some folks got a bit excited when we made DNS changes to mitigate it, and Twitter loves a rumor.	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Microsoft: Why Stop Committing Crimes When You Can Change the Public Image/Persona? http://t.co/nRUjeFXzZG #microsoft	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Microsoft: Why Stop Committing Crimes When You Can Change the Public Image/Persona? \| Techrights	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @seagate I want full refund, not days of my life wasted trying to deal with garbage hardware, getting around bad sectors, hangups. You fail.	Feb 03 18:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430327566684000256 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430327488326033409 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430327039577825280	Feb 03 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @seagate I wasted ~8 hours of my time trying to get it to work. I spent days on it and it's just physically defunct.	Feb 03 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @seagate Drive from #seagate still a mess, one week later - This is ABSOLUTELY unacceptable. They sent me another defective drive.	Feb 03 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: What did #seagate get for TWO faulty drives (sending crap to replace crap)? It got another SALE. Why? Because people's backups go missing.	Feb 03 18:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430326893238571008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430326645514174465	Feb 03 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #segate is rubbish, faulty replaces faulty: http://t.co/c5lGYRyTU1 can't believe I bought new Seagate drive to quickly replace faulty one.	Feb 03 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> forums.seagate.com \| Seagate ships faulty ST3500630A for RMA? - Seagate Community Forums	Feb 03 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #freenode has had its biggest issues in... well, as long as I can remember https://t.co/lAP6RM9xVV apparently #DDOS	Feb 03 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> twitter.com \| Twitter / Search - freenode	Feb 03 18:30
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3590335	Feb 03 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Arch Linux 2014.02.01 Is Now Available for Download http://news.softpedia.com/news/Arch-Linux-2014-02-01-Is-Now-Available-for-Download-423024.shtml #gnu #linux #archlinux	Feb 03 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Arch Linux 2014.02.01 Is Now Available for Download [ http://ur1.ca/gk1c6 ]	Feb 03 18:39
schestowitz	"Arch: It's a beautiful thing. Just upgraded today."	Feb 03 18:39
schestowitz	"I just saw Manjaro on a list of related distros - you like it? Fast/stable?"	Feb 03 18:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3588908	Feb 03 18:40
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You Can Say What You Want but GNOME Is the Best Linux Desktop, Here's Why http://news.softpedia.com/news/You-Can-Say-What-You-Want-But-GNOME-Is-the-Best-Linux-Desktop-Here-s-Why-422842.shtml #gnome #gnu #linux	Feb 03 18:40
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| You Can Say What You Want but GNOME Is a Great Linux Desktop, Here's Why [ http://ur1.ca/gjsi3 ]	Feb 03 18:40
schestowitz	I like MATE. Pretty great!"77"	Feb 03 18:40
schestowitz	"MATE"	Feb 03 18:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Women of OpenStack talk outreach,	Feb 03 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	education, and mentoring http://t.co/lXDQ9xyKR0	Feb 03 18:49
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk1dx	Feb 03 18:49
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Sosumi	I really hope seagate is enjoying the negative publicity	Feb 03 19:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Content/Layout OK? http://t.co/8QnkOMwdWS	Feb 03 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk1kw	Feb 03 19:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is the x86 server ready for open source?	Feb 03 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7OM1Pmxs9o	Feb 03 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk1kx	Feb 03 19:28
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iophk	http://lwn.net/Articles/583485/	Feb 03 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr	lwn.net \| OpenSSH 6.5 released [LWN.net]	Feb 03 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	@TaiKedz @tuxmachines ... am I a doofus or is it not	Feb 03 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	possible to create a new user account on	Feb 03 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	TuxMachines....?	Feb 03 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk1pl	Feb 03 20:03
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iophk	http://www.ibtimes.com/monarch-butterfly-grave-danger-disappearing-migration-reaches-record-low-1552802	Feb 03 20:41
iophk	missing mention of deforestation in MX	Feb 03 20:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.com \| Monarch Butterfly In ‘Grave Danger’ Of Disappearing, Migration Reaches Record Low [ http://ur1.ca/gk1vg ]	Feb 03 20:41
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Sosumi	it seems freenode has finally returned to normal	Feb 03 20:59
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MinceR	not quite	Feb 03 21:05
MinceR	afaict there's still only adams and services	Feb 03 21:05
MinceR	the other servers are not visible from here	Feb 03 21:06
MinceR	unless they're hiding something	Feb 03 21:06
MinceR	oh, they are	Feb 03 21:06
MinceR	never mind, then	Feb 03 21:06
DaemonFC	MinceR: I went onto our governor's facebook page and joined the trolling.	Feb 03 21:08
DaemonFC	I even added those Jack Harkness sex scenes from Torchwood: Miracle Day.	Feb 03 21:09
DaemonFC	I figured it would piss off the fundies there.	Feb 03 21:09
DaemonFC	I don't know how long it will be posted, but it should get a rise out of them.	Feb 03 21:09
MinceR	:)	Feb 03 21:11
Sosumi	what's is the governor's name	Feb 03 21:20
Sosumi	?	Feb 03 21:21
Sosumi	not chris christie, right? the garden state goering	Feb 03 21:26
Sosumi	or, "christ", christie insert jesus facepalm pic	Feb 03 21:27
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3588908	Feb 03 21:35
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You Can Say What You Want but GNOME Is the Best Linux Desktop, Here's Why http://news.softpedia.com/news/You-Can-Say-What-You-Want-But-GNOME-Is-the-Best-Linux-Desktop-Here-s-Why-422842.shtml #gnome #gnu #linux	Feb 03 21:35
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| You Can Say What You Want but GNOME Is a Great Linux Desktop, Here's Why [ http://ur1.ca/gjsi3 ]	Feb 03 21:35
schestowitz	"Walking around the office, I thought all Gnome has to do is be better than Windows 7, a desktop that has not yet caught up to KDE 3.x or even E16. Just about any free desktop does that."	Feb 03 21:35
schestowitz	"Yeah, us free software geeks are kinda spoiled :p"	Feb 03 21:35
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3594503	Feb 03 21:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "If you're an Android user like me, then you may have noticed a special gift in the most recent Facebook update"	Feb 03 21:36
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.fresnobee.com \| Rory E. H. Appleton: NSA game surveillance shows nothing is private \| Living & Entertainment \| FresnoBee.com [ http://ur1.ca/gk21e ]	Feb 03 21:36
schestowitz	"Maybe I'm not an Android user like him."	Feb 03 21:36
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3594704	Feb 03 21:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: WikiLeaks, Greenwald blast Guardian journalist’s book http://rt.com/news/harding-book-snowden-prisoner-588/ did the same to #assange http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/01/edward-snowden-intelligence-leak-nsa-contractor-extract	Feb 03 21:36
TechrightsBot-tr	-> rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gk21g ]	Feb 03 21:37
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| How Edward Snowden went from loyal NSA contractor to whistleblower \| World news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gk21h ]	Feb 03 21:37
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schestowitz	"	Feb 03 21:37
schestowitz	Dr. Roy Schestowitz -- genuine question -- why do you trust RT (Russia Today)? (I assume you put some value on its words since you link to it.) I'm not saying that any US/UK newspaper is perfect, but what I've heard/read about RT is that it is basically funded by the Kremlin. Reading the article you link to, for example, I find it a bit slippery, in ways that are a bit too long to explain in a first comment (but that I'd be happy to	Feb 03 21:37
schestowitz	try to explain if asked).	Feb 03 21:37
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schestowitz	None of which is a defense of Harding on this -- I don't know enough about that. I've just seen you link to RT several times and am curious.	Feb 03 21:37
schestowitz	"	Feb 03 21:37
schestowitz	Yes, as I pointed out before (many times), RT is Russian propaganda is the same way that CNN, BBC etc. are US/West propaganda. I link to both sometimes because they help in calling out each other's BS and then you can land somewhre in the middle, realising that a lot of the press is just garbage (spin) fed to common people	Feb 03 21:38
schestowitz	*somewhere	Feb 03 21:39
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3594704	Feb 03 21:47
schestowitz	"OK -- thanks. Sorry for making you say that again. I hadn't seen your previous statements of this."	Feb 03 21:47
schestowitz	Russian propaganda scared me more and northern Europe has had its share of racist propaganda, too. But in the UK what's mostly beamed to us is US propaganda, for historical reasons	Feb 03 21:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3594605	Feb 03 21:50
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #torture advocate #bbc is looking for #newspeak to soften the impact of #assassination (like "rendition") http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25979068	Feb 03 21:50
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - Drones or UAVs? The search for a more positive name [ http://ur1.ca/gk22r ]	Feb 03 21:50
schestowitz	"The industry want them to be called UAV (for Unmanned Aerial Vehicle). Mostly the press in the US already complied."	Feb 03 21:50
MinceR	UAV is more accurate	Feb 03 21:50
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schestowitz	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10606754/Open-source-push-could-save-taxpayer-millions.html	Feb 03 21:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Open source push 'could save taxpayer millions' - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gk23q ]	Feb 03 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First impressions of Antergos installation	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2aWY7Wj0dx	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk25c	Feb 03 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CompuLab Utilite: A Tiny, Low-Power, Low-Cost,	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	ARM Linux Desktop http://t.co/WzxHPxusLL	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk25d	Feb 03 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ARM is not about the status quo : Open source	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	breeds new architectures http://t.co/JZH9VJrGif	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk25f	Feb 03 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds and other developers are leaving	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	Bitcoins on the table http://t.co/9QAN3l0FFU	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk25g	Feb 03 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google releases Chromecast SDK	Feb 04 01:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pdsBR8xyYy	Feb 04 01:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk2p2	Feb 04 01:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is GNOME the best Linux desktop?	Feb 04 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/uB2j91JRGn	Feb 04 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk2sl	Feb 04 02:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox Set to Get a New Look, Better Sync	Feb 04 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Hl38uJ0l6u	Feb 04 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk2sm	Feb 04 02:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R2 GNOME review	Feb 04 03:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Prd8SWFHT7	Feb 04 03:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk333	Feb 04 03:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.2 Office Suite Boasts New	Feb 04 04:30
TweetTuxMachines	Features, Performance Boost	Feb 04 04:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RdUnyGEp7B	Feb 04 04:30
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk37n	Feb 04 04:30
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iophk	http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/03/democrats-introduce-open-internet-preservation-act-to-restore-net-neutrality/	Feb 04 08:41
TechrightsBot-tr	techcrunch.com \| Democrats Introduce Open Internet Preservation Act To Restore Net Neutrality \| TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gk3yd ]	Feb 04 08:41
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/windows-8-growth-falters-again-mobile-chrome-continues-to-pick-up-steam/	Feb 04 11:18
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Windows 8 growth falters again, mobile Chrome continues to pick up steam \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gk4fx ]	Feb 04 11:18
Sosumi	vista = 3.3%; 8.1 = 3.95%	Feb 04 11:19
Sosumi	and 7 still dominating	Feb 04 11:19
Sosumi	osx marketshare at 7.68%	Feb 04 11:20
Sosumi	which means, it kind of hasn't grown up at all	Feb 04 11:20
Sosumi	I remember it being at max 5% back in 2002	Feb 04 11:20
Sosumi	also nikkei just lost 4% today	Feb 04 11:34
Sosumi	with hitachi leading the fall at 14%	Feb 04 11:34
Sosumi	is hitachi getting major losses because of the fukushima accident?	Feb 04 11:35
Sosumi	noting that hitachi makes reactor parts	Feb 04 11:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Berlin: IT centralisation thwarts open source	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/olQQxLQUkB	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk4it	Feb 04 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cambodia Is Rapidly Freeing Itself From Wintel	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SgHWVd3umD	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk4iu	Feb 04 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung may announce Galaxy S5 at MWC	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3WZCXUpo54	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk4iw	Feb 04 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Make money and have fun in open source	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qLLhfNtTrW	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk4ix	Feb 04 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MOTA smartwatch goes on sale for $50 at Groupon	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/A3brxK8C8p	Feb 04 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk4iy	Feb 04 11:42
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schestowitz	[11:18] <TechrightsBot-tr> arstechnica.com \| Windows 8 growth falters again, mobile Chrome continues to pick up steam \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gk4fx ]	Feb 04 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Windows 8 growth falters again, mobile Chrome continues to pick up steam \| Ars Technica	Feb 04 13:18
schestowitz	Peter bright, I ain't linking that	Feb 04 13:18
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Sosumi	peter "blight"	Feb 04 13:54
Sosumi	but still, it shows vista 8.1 isn't going anywhere	Feb 04 13:55
Sosumi	and hopefully, if it doesn't make m$ hemorrage some money	Feb 04 13:56
Sosumi	it'll damage their image for sure	Feb 04 13:57
Sosumi	aka xbox with no mention to microsoft	Feb 04 13:57
Sosumi	surface 2 also not selling very well	Feb 04 13:58
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Sosumi	when business contracts aka renewals start dropping	Feb 04 14:00
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Sosumi	m$ will either get their act together or just vanish	Feb 04 14:01
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Sosumi	Gates and "gorilla" Ballmer left m$	Feb 04 15:31
Sosumi	Satya Nadella is the new CEO (I got that right :P )	Feb 04 15:31
Sosumi	John Thompson new chairman of the board	Feb 04 15:31
Sosumi	no idea who johny boy is	Feb 04 15:33
Sosumi	Satya was with the cloud services and we know how much bing kind of sucks	Feb 04 15:33
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Sosumi	also, given how he worked at m$ I hope he's part of the ballmer echo chamber	Feb 04 15:36
Sosumi	which means the continuation of the same mistakes of the past	Feb 04 15:37
Sosumi	and who know? if that dude was the responsible for pricing office on a license restricted just to one computer	Feb 04 15:38
Sosumi	for 530€	Feb 04 15:38
Sosumi	while proposing office "in zee cloud"	Feb 04 15:38
Sosumi	for 99€ and limited to 4 (or 6?) computers	Feb 04 15:39
Sosumi	and also at the time, kind of promising in replacing office mac with that on zee cloud version	Feb 04 15:39
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iophk	http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2326854/net-neutrality-is-thrown-a-lifeline-by-washington	Feb 04 17:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theinquirer.net \| Net Neutrality is thrown a lifeline by Washington- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/gk6mr ]	Feb 04 17:54
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satipera	@schestowitz you have been neglecting to cross post to identi.ca do you plan to do so? hello by the way	Feb 04 18:28
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schestowitz	Sosumi: was this the Symantec guy?\	Feb 04 19:26
Sosumi	john thompson?	Feb 04 19:27
Sosumi	sec	Feb 04 19:27
schestowitz	I wrote about a Thompson from MS before, I can't recall all the details, I just think that after he slammed Windows he joined MS board	Feb 04 19:27
schestowitz	He's another ethnic minority, so good way to block critics of business crime	Feb 04 19:27
schestowitz	I said MS would do that, but thought they'd go with female	Feb 04 19:27
schestowitz	So now to crititice MS leadership is to be racist and anti-'charity'	Feb 04 19:28
schestowitz	I already miss Ballmer	Feb 04 19:28
Sosumi	yes	Feb 04 19:28
Sosumi	he was with symantec in the past (CEO)	Feb 04 19:29
Sosumi	and ibm	Feb 04 19:29
schestowitz	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/10617375/Who-is-John-Thompson-Microsofts-new-chairman.html	Feb 04 19:29
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Who is John Thompson: Microsoft's new chairman? - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gk7w6 ]	Feb 04 19:29
schestowitz	yes, it's him	Feb 04 19:29
Sosumi	as vice president	Feb 04 19:29
Sosumi	and he's also into the seagate board of directors	Feb 04 19:29
Sosumi	now you know why you got 2 broken hdds from them	Feb 04 19:30
schestowitz	HA	Feb 04 19:31
satipera	@Schestowitz sorry froze at this end are you planning to cross post to identi.ca	Feb 04 19:32
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schestowitz	https://medium.com/quinn-norton/b9253a123859	Feb 04 19:33
TechrightsBot-tr	medium.com \| NSA Reform — Notes from a Strange World — Medium [ http://ur1.ca/gk7y3 ]	Feb 04 19:33
schestowitz	satipera: hey	Feb 04 19:33
schestowitz	I was going to	Feb 04 19:33
schestowitz	but evan kept making false promises about letting me export my data	Feb 04 19:33
schestowitz	and I still don't have my dents	Feb 04 19:34
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schestowitz	so I reckon, for now I'd not contribute to his site	Feb 04 19:34
satipera	@schestowitz i know you had issues, how do we get your 'dents' without going on twitter?	Feb 04 19:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3597406	Feb 04 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: Is GNOME the best Linux desktop? http://m.itworld.com/open-source/403088/gnome-best-linux-desktop	Feb 04 19:37
TechrightsBot-tr	-> m.itworld.com \| Is GNOME the best Linux desktop? \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gk7yo ]	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3597406	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	"short answer: no."	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	> Hello.	Feb 04 19:38
schestowitz	>	Feb 04 19:38
schestowitz	> I would like to know if Tuxera replied to the allegations and what is	Feb 04 19:38
schestowitz	> their answer	Feb 04 19:38
schestowitz	> concerning HFS+ Embedded product being based on native Linux code?	Feb 04 19:38
schestowitz	>	Feb 04 19:38
schestowitz	> Thank you.	Feb 04 19:38
schestowitz	>	Feb 04 19:38
schestowitz	>	Feb 04 19:38
schestowitz	> Sent using Hushmail	Feb 04 19:38
schestowitz	http://mrpogson.com/2014/02/03/the-return-of-bill-gates/	Feb 04 19:45
TechrightsBot-tr	mrpogson.com \| The Return of Bill Gates \| Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gk80s ]	Feb 04 19:45
schestowitz	""	Feb 04 19:45
schestowitz	http://popcon.debian.org/stable/source/by_inst	Feb 04 19:48
TechrightsBot-tr	Missing content type. Ignoring.	Feb 04 19:48
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Sosumi	makes no sense	Feb 04 19:54
Sosumi	why would you want to use HFS+ anyway	Feb 04 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The state of Firefox OS – a report from FOSDEM	Feb 04 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vN7JmZjtnk	Feb 04 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk84z	Feb 04 20:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2013 http://t.co/rcC04OfUFX Members Choice	Feb 04 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	Award Winners http://t.co/K0tejnTJ9r	Feb 04 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk850	Feb 04 20:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.linuxquestions.org \| LinuxQuestions.org	Feb 04 20:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Trend To "Open Source" Software And What It	Feb 04 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	Means For Businesses And Consumers	Feb 04 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rEa7adzMst	Feb 04 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk851	Feb 04 20:07
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430796046340333568	Feb 04 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @AskSeagate @Seagate You said Seagate would call me. Nobody did. Can't say I'm surprised. #seagate probably has more important clients #nsa	Feb 04 20:13
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sebsebseb	hi	Feb 04 20:24
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3598788	Feb 04 20:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Board member of #seagate becomes leader at #microsoft - a special ally of the #nsa just like Seagate (aiding illegal surveillance/retention)	Feb 04 20:30
schestowitz	"similar quality too..."	Feb 04 20:30
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3597300	Feb 04 20:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: MOTA smartwatch goes on sale for $50 at Groupon http://www.muktware.com/2014/02/mota-smartwatch-goes-sale-50-groupon/20449 #android based. #linux	Feb 04 20:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| MOTA smartwatch goes on sale for $50 at Groupon - Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gk8cn ]	Feb 04 20:30
schestowitz	"Looks like one of those ankle bracelets they make people wear when they are under house arrest."	Feb 04 20:30
schestowitz	Only this one was made hip, so people PAY to be wearing them	Feb 04 20:31
schestowitz	"@Jim: :-)"	Feb 04 20:31
schestowitz	http://www.housearrestsolution.com/solution2.aspx	Feb 04 20:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.housearrestsolution.com \| Our House Arrest Solution [ http://ur1.ca/gk8d9 ]	Feb 04 20:31
schestowitz	"Not so far from the truth."	Feb 04 20:31
schestowitz	"Note the aspx, state money usually goes to Bill Gates."	Feb 04 20:32
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3598615	Feb 04 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I already miss Ballmer, he drive the company to the ground. Now "against Microsoft" is "racism" and anti-"charity" http://techrights.org/2014/02/03/face-change/	Feb 04 20:32
schestowitz	"I wonder if the new guy will throw chairs at anyone."	Feb 04 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Microsoft: Why Stop Committing Crimes When You Can Change the Public Image/Persona? \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gk8dt ]	Feb 04 20:32
schestowitz	"I'll deeply miss "Developers, developers, developers, developers""	Feb 04 20:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AskSeagate/status/430800620086640640 https://twitter.com/AskSeagate/status/430800759631122433	Feb 04 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@AskSeagate: @schestowitz @seagate We notice that a technician from your region responded to you by email (case #03930066). We will respond shortly. If..	Feb 04 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@AskSeagate: @schestowitz you would like a call, let us know and we will make a note in your case notes.	Feb 04 20:36
schestowitz	"	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	You've got <a href="http://techrights.org/2009/12/03/microsoft-news-corp-backtracking/">Nadella in 2009 as a Google censor</a>, which is pretty gross because <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/microsofts-bing-removes-several-hundred-thousand-pirate-search-results-130808/">Microsoft is still the biggest DMCA issuer and does not censor the same links on Bing</a>. The only way to make Bing competitive, it seems, is to censor Google and	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	other sites of truth, like <a hef="http://torrentfreak.com/microsofts-bogus-dmca-notices-censor-bbc-cnn-wikipedia-spotify-and-more-121007/">BBC, Wikipedia, Washi...	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	Reply or view Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)'s post >	Feb 04 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Microsoft About Anti-Google “Bribes”: Let’s Call the Whole Thing Off \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gk8hc ]	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	"	Feb 04 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Microsoft's Bing Removes Several Hundred Thousand "Pirate" Search Results \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gk8hd ]	Feb 04 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Microsoft DMCA Notice 'Mistakenly' Targets BBC, Techcrunch, Wikipedia and U.S. Govt \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gk8he ]	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	" Washington Post, TechCrunch, etc,, even references to old versions of Microsoft software or anything else Bill Gates does not like. I'm sure there's more if we look into it, but censorship is criminal enough. One of the most frightening things about non free software is the ability to memory hole reality. That seems to be what Bing and Microsoft are all about as people finally quit paying $200 for text editors."	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	http://betanews.com/2013/10/18/microsoft-uses-dmca-to-force-betanews-and-others-to-remove-old-software-listings/	Feb 04 20:38
TechrightsBot-tr	betanews.com \| Microsoft uses DMCA to force BetaNews and others to remove old software listings [ http://ur1.ca/gk8hn ]	Feb 04 20:38
schestowitz	"	Feb 04 20:38
schestowitz	Link to story of massive and blatant censorship missed above,	Feb 04 20:38
schestowitz	http://torrentfreak.com/microsofts-bogus-dmca-notices-censor-bbc-cnn-wikipedia-spotify-and-more-121007/	Feb 04 20:38
schestowitz	"	Feb 04 20:38
schestowitz	A lot of censorship is needed to cover up Gates' crimes. He still bribes many news sites too, to override the signal...	Feb 04 20:39
schestowitz	The same goes for Microsoft...	Feb 04 20:39
sebsebseb	schestowitz: FOSDEM was good	Feb 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME: Slight adjustment to the 3.12 schedule	Feb 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WDl7Z6BUQS	Feb 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk8lf	Feb 04 20:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Opinion: Arch Linux and Stability	Feb 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VICYUbavkj	Feb 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk8lg	Feb 04 20:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Copyright statements proliferate inside open	Feb 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	source code http://t.co/IuMjCAEGq0	Feb 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk8lh	Feb 04 20:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines freedreno/a3xx/compiler: new compiler	Feb 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FZIj99DF83	Feb 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk8lj	Feb 04 20:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MWC 2014: What gadgets to expect at this year’s	Feb 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	show http://t.co/3ubPFVIWtK	Feb 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk8ll	Feb 04 20:46
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3597322	Feb 04 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Berlin: IT centralisation thwarts open source https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/berlin-it-centralisation-thwarts-open-source too many moles inside to 'pull a Munich'?	Feb 04 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr	-> joinup.ec.europa.eu \| Berlin: IT centralisation thwarts open source \| Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/gk8p5 ]	Feb 04 21:00
schestowitz	"Very stupid and very sad. They want to give all of their work to people who have not been able to manage a fraction of it. They will waste more money on Microsoft/NSA licenses but it can't last much longer.""	Feb 04 21:01
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3598742	Feb 04 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Trend To "Open Source" Software And What It Means For Businesses And Consumers http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardfinger/2014/02/04/the-trend-to-open-source-software-and-what-it-means-for-businesses-and-consumers/ covers free operating systems	Feb 04 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.forbes.com \| The Trend To "Open Source" Software And What It Means For Businesses And Consumers - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gk8lw ]	Feb 04 21:01
schestowitz	"when we use opensource, we actually know what we are doing"	Feb 04 21:01
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2014/you-did-it	Feb 04 21:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - You did it! [ http://ur1.ca/gk8pg ]	Feb 04 21:02
schestowitz	lawyers...	Feb 04 21:02
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/02/report-ibm-gooses-its-sales-numbers-thanks-to-overseas-tax-tricks/	Feb 04 21:10
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Report: IBM gooses its sales numbers thanks to overseas tax tricks \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gk8s8 ]	Feb 04 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Master the amazing Raspberry Pi	Feb 04 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qf8iuc2nHP	Feb 04 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk901	Feb 04 21:24
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DaemonFC	schestowitz: I have been participating in a digital sit-in on Indiana Governor Pence's Facebook wall.	Feb 04 21:38
DaemonFC	I ended my most recent post by calling him one of the worst governors in recent Indiana history.	Feb 04 21:38
DaemonFC	and comparing him to Vladimir Putin	Feb 04 21:39
DaemonFC	http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-gay-men-beaten-on-camera-by-homophobic-russian-neo-nazis/	Feb 04 21:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.occupydemocrats.com \| Watch: Gay Men Beaten on Camera by Homophobic Russian Neo-Nazis [ http://ur1.ca/gk98v ]	Feb 04 21:39
DaemonFC	The Russian authorities are ignoring violent crimes committed against LGBT people by hate groups and other extremists.	Feb 04 21:39
DaemonFC	Laws that take away rights from LGBT people are intended to promote hatred and violence, to encourage extremists to commit crimes.	Feb 04 21:39
DaemonFC	The Indiana Marriage Discrimination Amendment is designed for the same reason. To stir up anti-LGBT extremists.	Feb 04 21:40
DaemonFC	If you look in the comments section of Governor Mike Pence's Facebook wall, you see trolls like the various "Soto" sockpuppets calling for the execution and murder of LGBT people. These are the kind of people that are on the same page as what is, in my opinion, one of the worst governors in recent Indiana history.	Feb 04 21:40
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 04 21:45
DaemonFC	http://www.theguardian.com/money/us-money-blog/2014/feb/02/retirement-savings-ira-myra-obama-wages	Feb 04 21:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| The problem with retirement savings: making enough money to save \| Money \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gk9cs ]	Feb 04 21:45
DaemonFC	The article points out that most new jobs are so lousy that people have nothing to save in such an account to begin with.	Feb 04 21:45
DaemonFC	When you work at Walmart or McDonalds for minimum wage, you don't have enough money for everything that needs to get done that week.	Feb 04 21:45
DaemonFC	McDonalds created a model budget for their employees that assumed that they worked 40 hours a week at McDonalds and included income from a second job, and then left food and then ended up leaving food and heating out of the budget to get it to balance out.	Feb 04 21:45
DaemonFC	oops	Feb 04 21:45
*DaemonFC fixes that		Feb 04 21:45
DaemonFC	McDonalds created a model budget for their employees that assumed that they worked 40 hours a week at McDonalds and included income from a second job, and then ended up leaving food and heating out of the budget to get it to balance out.	Feb 04 21:46
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 04 21:50
DaemonFC	I don't think we'll be hearing from Mitt Romney again. Neither party seems to ever run a proven loser twice.	Feb 04 21:50
DaemonFC	People already know so much about Romney that the damage is done. Nobody identifies much with a corporate raider and pension thief that has mansions and car elevators in almost every state, while most people are just trying to hold on to what they have.	Feb 04 21:50
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 04 21:52
DaemonFC	In fact, the best answer I got for why the Republicans rammed Romney through to get the 2012 nomination is because they figured they didn't have a better than average shot anyway, and it was their change to give him his turn and get rid of him.	Feb 04 21:52
DaemonFC	And thanks to the Presidential transition law that was enacted a few years ago, the federal government had to spend over $60 million of federal taxpayer money preparing that arsehole's transition team and help them measure the White House drapes.	Feb 04 21:52
DaemonFC	I noticed that Amazon deletes your post if you say asshole.	Feb 04 21:53
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DaemonFC	But they don't delete it if you say arsehole.	Feb 04 21:53
MinceR	:>	Feb 04 21:55
MinceR	you could also try writing 'asshole' with a cyrillic 'o'	Feb 04 21:56
MinceR	then again, maybe they take issue with 'ass'	Feb 04 21:56
MinceR	there's probably an equivalent character for one of those :)	Feb 04 21:56
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 04 21:57
DaemonFC	The best thing that can be done is to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour and index it to inflation so that they do have something to put into their own retirement plan or use the extra money for college.	Feb 04 21:57
DaemonFC	The jobs we are seeing these days aren't good for much of anything except to slow down the process of drowning in debt and to prolong the agony of it.	Feb 04 21:57
DaemonFC	If they put away $1 an hour, it would be better than saving nothing. They're going to need it since Congress is obviously not planning to patch Social Security.	Feb 04 21:57
DaemonFC	I've been posting anti-Pence stuff right on the Governor's wall.	Feb 04 22:01
DaemonFC	Hopefully, we can embarrass, discredit, and humiliate him enough to peel away some voters.	Feb 04 22:02
DaemonFC	Out of about 3 million votes, he only won by about 70,000 in 2012.	Feb 04 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Day the Light Came On for Eddie…	Feb 04 22:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Firefox 27 Delivers Better Security,	Feb 04 22:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New year, new resolutions and a new Mageia –	Feb 04 22:03
TweetTuxMachines	here’s Mageia 4! http://t.co/eeDd9Qfhwz	Feb 04 22:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Girls and Software http://t.co/eJrf7vCej2	Feb 04 22:03
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DaemonFC	MinceR: What's that letter you guys have that looks exactly like a C?	Feb 04 22:07
DaemonFC	I remember playing with that when you suggested it.	Feb 04 22:07
DaemonFC	I posted stuff like "FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK!" to see what would happen.	Feb 04 22:08
DaemonFC	They let it post, but deleted it manually after several hours and added it to their list.	Feb 04 22:08
MinceR	not sure what "you guys" is, but there is a cyrillic letter that looks exactly like a c :>	Feb 04 22:09
DaemonFC	hmmm	Feb 04 22:09
DaemonFC	MinceR: I should run for governor.	Feb 04 22:09
DaemonFC	I don't have any money though.	Feb 04 22:09
DaemonFC	They'll vote to give the tool a second term because the tool has money.	Feb 04 22:10
DaemonFC	B-)	Feb 04 22:10
MinceR	business as usual	Feb 04 22:10
DaemonFC	I'd make an excellent governor compared to Pence.	Feb 04 22:10
DaemonFC	The for profit Christian schools voucher program would be shut down.	Feb 04 22:10
DaemonFC	I could do that with an executive order, because the legislature authorized the funding, but left implementation up to the governor.	Feb 04 22:11
DaemonFC	I'd write an executive order stating that the number of vouchers would be reduced to ZERO and that the money authorized by the General Assembly is to be returned to the state treasury to be used for deficit reduction.	Feb 04 22:11
DaemonFC	:)	Feb 04 22:12
DaemonFC	The state is running a deficit even though it's taking in more money than it spends.	Feb 04 22:13
DaemonFC	They're getting bank loans while we have $2 billion in a "rainy day fund".	Feb 04 22:13
DaemonFC	I'd empty out most of that account to extinguish our state debt.	Feb 04 22:13
DaemonFC	Then I'd ask the General Assembly to vote to create a State Bank of Indiana, modeled after the one in North Dakota	Feb 04 22:14
DaemonFC	All state revenue would be deposited at the state-owned bank.	Feb 04 22:14
DaemonFC	It wouldn't be difficult. The overhead would be minimal.	Feb 04 22:15
MinceR	:)	Feb 04 22:15
DaemonFC	All it has to do is exist on paper and have accounts at the federal reserve.	Feb 04 22:15
DaemonFC	Then we can shove state revenue into the new state bank and have the state bank deposit it at an account at the fed.	Feb 04 22:15
DaemonFC	Then instead of paying money to store state funds, we'd be earning money on it.	Feb 04 22:16
DaemonFC	I'd write an executive order declaring that the Indiana State Police and Department of Natural Resource Conservation Officers are not to use civil asset forfeiture.	Feb 04 22:17
DaemonFC	If you get caught fishing without a license, they can take your car, boat, fishing equipment, and anything else you have with you.	Feb 04 22:17
DaemonFC	And then they can fine you up to $5,000.	Feb 04 22:17
DaemonFC	I'd change it to where they are limited to the fine.	Feb 04 22:18
schestowitz	[22:09] <DaemonFC> MinceR: I should run for governor.	Feb 04 22:18
schestowitz	I saw something about Ventura talking about Preseidency	Feb 04 22:18
DaemonFC	Jesse Ventura? Well, he did become the governor of Minnesota for a while.	Feb 04 22:19
DaemonFC	He beat the Republican and Democrat.	Feb 04 22:19
schestowitz	He can't make it in the US, the system is too corrupt for it, he's no Reagan... but he did make it into Senator, like Terminator	Feb 04 22:19
DaemonFC	Then the Republicans and Democrats in the state legislature started overriding all of his vetoes.	Feb 04 22:19
DaemonFC	Doing anything else they could to fuck with him.	Feb 04 22:19
schestowitz	Did it step down from Governor on his own because they wouldn't let him effectively work?	Feb 04 22:19
schestowitz	He's like a dissident nacy seal	Feb 04 22:20
schestowitz	navy	Feb 04 22:20
DaemonFC	He didn't seek a second term.	Feb 04 22:21
MinceR	:D	Feb 04 22:21
MinceR	funny typo there	Feb 04 22:21
DaemonFC	He couldn't do much because they were blocking him and working together to override his vetoes.	Feb 04 22:21
DaemonFC	MinceR: I started trolling my state senator too.	Feb 04 22:24
DaemonFC	He posted that he just introduced some bills, so I posted a link to alec exposed	Feb 04 22:24
DaemonFC	and asked how much money from ALEC was his his mattress, freezer, etc.	Feb 04 22:25
MinceR	:>	Feb 04 22:25
DaemonFC	He posted pictures of a bunch of dead turkeys next to a shotgun	Feb 04 22:25
DaemonFC	I called him a big turkey and asked him why he was shooting all the other turkeys.	Feb 04 22:25
DaemonFC	He posted a comic about gun control.	Feb 04 22:26
DaemonFC	I posted an article about a man pointing a gun at a girl scout that was trying to sell him cookies	Feb 04 22:26
DaemonFC	Jim Banks shared The Wall Street Journal's status.	Feb 04 22:27
DaemonFC	January 5	Feb 04 22:27
DaemonFC	The countries where people live the longest, according to OECD data: http://on.wsj.com/1ezEMyH	Feb 04 22:27
TechrightsBot-tr	live.wsj.com \| Video - Five Countries Where People Live Longest - WSJ.com	Feb 04 22:27
DaemonFC	1. Switzerland	Feb 04 22:27
DaemonFC	2. Italy	Feb 04 22:27
DaemonFC	3. Japan	Feb 04 22:27
DaemonFC	4. Iceland	Feb 04 22:27
DaemonFC	5. Spain	Feb 04 22:27
DaemonFC	The U.S. ranked 26th on the list of 34 OECD countries, with a life expectancy of 78.7 years.	Feb 04 22:27
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer In Iceland, banks were allowed to fail, the people were bailed out, and the Prime Minister was indicted. Still waiting on that to happen in America. Bush is still a free man, millions of people lost their homes, and the banks were bailed out.	Feb 04 22:27
DaemonFC	5 hours ago · Edited · Like	Feb 04 22:27
MinceR	:)	Feb 04 22:28
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DaemonFC	Governor Pence,	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	As an Indiana resident and voter, I call on you to ask the Indiana General Assembly to introduce and pass the Fourth Amendment Protection Act, as the legislatures in the states of Utah, Washington, Arizona, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma and California are considering, or have passed.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	The Fourth Amendment Protection Act does three basic things:	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	1. It states that no state agency or resources are to be used to comply with the United States National Security Agency when they are attempting to collect data on state residents without a valid warrant issued by a court of law, and makes it a criminal offense to cooperate with them if they do not present a valid warrant.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	2. It states that no utility companies operating within the state are allowed to provide service to any NSA building or data center within the state.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	3. It forbids any public universities within the state from cooperating with NSA research or allowing NSA recruiters onto the campus.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_Protection_Act	Feb 04 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Fourth Amendment Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gka4b ]	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	Governor Pence,	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	As an Indiana resident and voter, I call on you to drop the state's challenge to the United States Environmental Protection Agency's new regulations on mercury emissions from coal fired power plants.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	http://www.epa.gov/mats/	Feb 04 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.epa.gov \| Mercury and Air Toxics Standards \| US Environmental Protection Agency	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	Last year, Indiana's coal plants released 46,000 pounds of mercury into the atmosphere and water.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	Mercury is a highly toxic substance to humans and other living things.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_poisoning	Feb 04 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Mercury poisoning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gka4j ]	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-gay-men-beaten-on-camera-by-homophobic-russian-neo-nazis/	Feb 04 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.occupydemocrats.com \| Watch: Gay Men Beaten on Camera by Homophobic Russian Neo-Nazis [ http://ur1.ca/gk98v ]	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	The Russian authorities are ignoring violent crimes committed against LGBT people by hate groups and other extremists.	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	Laws that take away rights from LGBT people are intended to promote hatred and violence, to encourage extremists to commit crimes.	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	The Indiana Marriage Discrimination Amendment is designed for the same reason. To stir up anti-LGBT extremists.	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	If you look in the comments section of Governor Mike Pence's Facebook wall, you see trolls like the various "Soto" sockpuppets calling for the execution and murder of LGBT people. These are the kind of people that are on the same page as what is, in my opinion, one of the worst governors in recent Indiana history.	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/bill-nye-creationism-evolution	Feb 04 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.motherjones.com \| This Picture Has Creationists Terrified \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/gka4t ]	Feb 04 22:39
DaemonFC	This evening, Bill Nye the Science Guy will debate creationist leader Ken Ham at the Creation Museum in Kentucky. Tickets sold out in two minutes.	Feb 04 22:39
DaemonFC	Governor Pence, please stop the Indiana privatized school program vouchers. You are robbing children of a fact-based education. The material that these schools pass out teach kids that the Loch Ness Monster is real and disproves evolution.	Feb 04 22:39
DaemonFC	It also does several other disgusting things, such as emphasizing rote memorization instead of critical thinking. The material is also very sexist.	Feb 04 22:39
DaemonFC	If you believe that evolution isn't a fact, then please stop letting your doctor treat you with modern antibiotics, since Penicillin should still cure everything.	Feb 04 22:39
DaemonFC	Please give kids a 21st century education and shut down the charter school fraud.	Feb 04 22:39
DaemonFC	http://www.alternet.org/education/shocking-lessons-christian-educational-cartoons	Feb 04 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.alternet.org \| Life According to the Christian Education Curriculum, in Cartoons! \| Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gka4w ]	Feb 04 22:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/7iUvHUWzy5	Feb 04 22:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embeddable webserver adds source and NAS plugin	Feb 04 22:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines North Korea Laughably Copies Apple With New	Feb 04 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Distro http://t.co/KP574cC3ZC	Feb 04 22:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux users still obstructed from Parliamentary	Feb 04 23:20
TweetTuxMachines	debates http://t.co/H7HI9kahNa	Feb 04 23:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Statistics Not Compatible With Varnish	Feb 04 23:59
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DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI	Feb 05 00:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham - HD - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gkavc ]	Feb 05 00:07
DaemonFC	http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2014/02/02/unconfirmed-big-cat-sightings-continue-around-indiana/5166349/	Feb 05 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.indystar.com \| Unconfirmed big cat sightings continue around Indiana [ http://ur1.ca/gkavv ]	Feb 05 00:09
DaemonFC	I have a big cat.	Feb 05 00:09
DaemonFC	He's been here the whole time, though.	Feb 05 00:09
DaemonFC	Governor Mike Pence	Feb 05 00:14
DaemonFC	This evening, Governor Mike Pence received a briefing from Indiana Department of Homeland Security Executive Director John Hill on the weather conditions across Indiana.	Feb 05 00:14
DaemonFC	As the winter storm continues to roll in, Hoosiers are encouraged to keep an eye on their county's travel status here: http://www.in.gov/dhs/traveladvisory/ and the road conditions in their area by visiting http://indot.carsprogram.org/main.jsf.	Feb 05 00:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.in.gov \| DHS: County Travel Status	Feb 05 00:14
TechrightsBot-tr	indot.carsprogram.org \| Indiana Traveler Information	Feb 05 00:14
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Thank you for telling us what to do in a snowstorm. I knew we had a governor for a reason. We wouldn't know what to do without you. If you have any other suggestions for how your peasants should peasant, feel free to tell us. ;)	Feb 05 00:14
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Oh, and is there any word on the propane shortage other than telling people to quit cooking and set the temperature to 50 degrees?	Feb 05 00:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Will Amazon destroy the Apple TV with an	Feb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	Android console? http://t.co/Jf8rulH0rG	Feb 05 00:35
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DaemonFC	Upgrading to KDE 4.12.2.	Feb 05 00:39
DaemonFC	The KDE 4.x series is really slowing down.	Feb 05 00:39
DaemonFC	There's only about 20 bug fixes this month.	Feb 05 00:40
DaemonFC	Development is slowing down, I meant.	Feb 05 00:40
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schestowitz	Yeah, I heard so	Feb 05 01:14
schestowitz	not just development	Feb 05 01:14
schestowitz	maybe it reached maturity	Feb 05 01:14
schestowitz	"Peak KDE"	Feb 05 01:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3599352	Feb 05 01:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux users still obstructed from Parliamentary debates http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/public-sector/2014/02/linux-users-still-obstructed-f.html #gnu #linux #uk	Feb 05 01:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.computerweekly.com \| Linux users still obstructed from Parliamentary debates - Public Sector IT [ http://ur1.ca/gkb9v ]	Feb 05 01:15
schestowitz	"Not just a UK problem. I've had similar issues with Canada's parliamentary telecasts. Australia can also be problematic."	Feb 05 01:15
schestowitz	"Olympics still on Silverlight? Barf.'	Feb 05 01:15
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3598677	Feb 05 01:16
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #libreoffice downloaded a lot in #Debian (1399837), but #Mono at #3 sure remains #disturbing http://popcon.debian.org/stable/source/by_inst	Feb 05 01:16
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schestowitz	"Huh. Wonder if I have any packages installed with a mono dependency."	Feb 05 01:16
schestowitz	Last time I installed debian mono was already on there, maybe with the DE	Feb 05 01:16
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Feb 05 01:54
DaemonFC	http://leavingfundamentalism.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/no-more-nessie-for-accelerated-christian-education/	Feb 05 01:54
DaemonFC	The company that makes the "educational" material to be used in Indiana profitized D and F-rated charter schools that are funded by the Republican voucher program has apparently killed off Nessie in the face of public criticism. The rest of their unscientific crap remains. Do you want to prepare your children to go to college and get a good paying 21st century job, or do you want Governor Pence making your children the next generation of gas	Feb 05 01:54
DaemonFC	station attendants?	Feb 05 01:54
TechrightsBot-tr	leavingfundamentalism.wordpress.com \| No more Nessie for Accelerated Christian Education \| Leaving Fundamentalism [ http://ur1.ca/gkbip ]	Feb 05 01:54
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Bill Hicks (impersonating a Creationist): "God put dinosaur fossils here to test our faith!" … Bill Hicks (as himself): I think God put you here to test my faith, dude. Does that bother anybody else, the idea that God might be ****ing with our heads? I have trouble sleeping with that knowledge. Some prankster God runnin' around, [pantomimes digging] "We'll see who believes in me now. I am the Prankster God – I am killing me!"	Feb 05 02:01
DaemonFC	Like · Reply · a few seconds ago	Feb 05 02:01
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer "You know, the world's twelve thousand years old and dinosaurs existed, and existed in that time, you'd think it would been mentioned in the ****ing Bible at some point:	Feb 05 02:07
DaemonFC	And O, Jesus and the disciples walked to Nazareth. But the trail was blocked by a giant brontosaurus... with a splinter in its paw. And the disciples did run a-screamin'. "What a big ****ing lizard, Lord!"	Feb 05 02:07
DaemonFC	"I'm sure gonna mention this in my book," Luke said.	Feb 05 02:07
DaemonFC	"Well, I'm sure gonna mention it in my book," Matthew said.	Feb 05 02:07
DaemonFC	But Jesus was unafraid. And he took the splinter from the brontosaurus paw, and the brontosaurus became his friend. And Jesus sent him to Scotland where he lived in a loch." -Bill Hicks	Feb 05 02:07
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DaemonFC	From Amazon (talking about the Bill Nye debate there):	Feb 05 02:54
DaemonFC	I'm an agnostic. I'm an agnostic that leans very far towards atheism because there has been no scientific evidence presented to me that there is a higher being.	Feb 05 02:54
DaemonFC	I'm willing to say that I don't know with 100% certainty whether there's a higher being, but when people can prove what they're saying, it really helps the process along, and the Creationists haven't proven anything. Especially not about their claims of creation. Their argument on the origin and age of the Earth always goes back to a religious creation myth, such as Genesis, which science proves is impossible. It's impossible that the Earth was	Feb 05 02:54
DaemonFC	created in 7 days, humans in 1 day, and that it's 5,000 years old. It will be impossible to argue that that is true no matter how many times you shout it at someone, because the science proves it wrong.	Feb 05 02:54
DaemonFC	As to religion, I have no religion. None of them have proven that they have any merit. None have proven that they're better than the next.	Feb 05 02:54
DaemonFC	All you can do with religion is ignore it or buy a ticket to the lottery. People have worshiped more things than I can comfortably count, including the Sun. So, you're buying a lottery ticket and saying you hope yours is right and the other several hundred are wrong.	Feb 05 02:54
DaemonFC	And when you ask people why they're a Christian, it always goes back to "Well, my parents are, my friends are, most of the people around me are.".	Feb 05 02:54
DaemonFC	Yeah, and if you go to India and ask why there's so many Hindus there, it's the same reason. If you go to Iran and ask why there's so many Muslims, same reason. If you go to Mexico and ask why most people are Catholic Christians. Well, that all goes back to the Conquistadores, but today it's the same reason.	Feb 05 02:54
DaemonFC	Religion is more like a contagion. It spreads because there's so many hosts that are around it who teach it to their children or threaten people and forcibly convert them, or because there's a climate of discrimination against people who don't claim to believe it. At least the Abrahamic ones like to spread through violence and coercion... And I don't think that any of this is a particularly good reason to buy into anything.	Feb 05 02:54
DaemonFC	VRWC says:	Feb 05 02:56
DaemonFC	What makes you think that 7 Earth days equals 7 days for God?	Feb 05 02:57
DaemonFC	The length of a human day is determined by the time it takes our planet to revolve once on its axis.... What relevance would that unit of time have to the creator of the universe?	Feb 05 02:57
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 02:57
DaemonFC	We're talking biblical literalism here. That just falls apart completely, right off the bat.	Feb 05 02:57
DaemonFC	But, sure, you can make excuses, and say that it's all figurative, and throw out and ignore the parts you don't like, and you can scream at others. It doesn't prove anything except that you're a complete arsehole. (Amazon doesn't seem to mind that word.)	Feb 05 02:57
DaemonFC	I'd say that the bible lost a tire back there, but it didn't exactly start out with any....	Feb 05 02:57
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	So, then we get to my second favorite part of the bible, because, well....What the hell?	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	The flood myth.	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	God makes it rain for 40 days and nights and floods the entire world. First of all, where did all the water go when the flood receded? If the whole world flooded, then there's nowhere for it to go. Plus, the water had to go through the water cycle, meaning it was already here to begin with. If that was the case, the entire world would have been flooded already.	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	But, we'll set that aside and assume that God created all the excess water just for the flood and then beamed it all back up when he was finished killing all those helpless people, many of which probably did nothing particularly wrong, except one family for whatever reason.	Feb 05 03:06
DaemonFC	So, this family, right? This family of seven people builds a GIGANTIC ship, enough for two of every animal in the world, except for the dinosaurs because they hit the snooze button too many times that morning, and then they set out. When the flood stops, they all enter into incestuous relationships and...damn that doesn't work, there'd be birth defects. And even if the first generation wasn't related, there's nowhere near enough genetic diversity	Feb 05 03:06
DaemonFC	to repopulate the planet, so everything dies out anyway.	Feb 05 03:06
DaemonFC	Of course, there's other reasons why the biblical flood myth is impossible, but those are just the most obvious ones that come to mind, and a child could figure most of that out.	Feb 05 03:06
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 03:18
DaemonFC	Are you kidding? Monica Lewinsky happened 16 years ago. We're going to hear about Benghazi in the year 2030 from these ****tards.	Feb 05 03:18
DaemonFC	But if you mention Bush, which only happened 5 years ago.... "That's ancient history. He's long gone!!!!".	Feb 05 03:18
DaemonFC	Tony Bruno says:	Feb 05 03:18
DaemonFC	Clinton was only screwing interns. Republicans are screwing a whole nation.	Feb 05 03:18
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 03:18
DaemonFC	I hope he at least had a great orgasm. You want to talk about expensive prostitutes? Holy ****!	Feb 05 03:18
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Maybe when the bloviating dictator quits trying to latch on to Martin Luther King and Coretta Scott King (a gay rights activist!!!!!) to try to borrow credibility....	Feb 05 03:32
DaemonFC	B-)	Feb 05 03:32
DaemonFC	Governor Pence, is it too much to ask that you quit doing sickening things like trying to latch on to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King (a gay rights activist!!!!!) to try to borrow credibility.... Thanks.	Feb 05 03:35
DaemonFC	Like · · about a minute ago	Feb 05 03:35
DaemonFC	VRWC says:	Feb 05 03:39
DaemonFC	So God the Creator of the universe has to define his day by 24 Earth hours?	Feb 05 03:39
DaemonFC	Why would that be?	Feb 05 03:39
DaemonFC	(And I'm at a loss to understand why you would respond to my perfectly civil post by being such a profane jerk.... )	Feb 05 03:39
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 03:39
DaemonFC	"I'm going to create a 24 hour day/night cycle on their planet and then tell them about days that really aren't 24 hour days in a book meant for humans on Earth because I am a prankster god. I slay me! Hahahahaa!"	Feb 05 03:40
DaemonFC	Libertarian! Socialist! Patriot! Fryfan! says:	Feb 05 03:44
DaemonFC	Ken ham insists dinosaurs and humans coexisted.	Feb 05 03:44
DaemonFC	Nonsense.	Feb 05 03:44
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 03:44
DaemonFC	Flintstones! Meet the Flintstones! They're the modern stone age family!	Feb 05 03:44
DaemonFC	Hey, would you like a Winston cigarette?	Feb 05 03:44
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 04:50
DaemonFC	I remember a science fiction movie I watched about 20 years ago, where the Earth was seeded by an advanced alien race with a taste for humans. They seeded a bunch of planets to create us, and came back to eat us when we had overpopulated the planet and created billions of humans for them to chow down on.	Feb 05 04:50
DaemonFC	:)	Feb 05 04:50
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	I think if there were aliens that liked to farm and eat humans, they'd have to have some redundancy in the system, to account for the fact that half of the planets full of humans probably got blown up over stupid arguments about whose invisible man in the sky was better, or silly arguments about which economic system to use.	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	I get baited into some strange topics	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	I like the persecution of Christians ones.	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	I enjoy mocking them.	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	Christopher Gwyn says:	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	I saw a movie where 2 Japanese boys were kidnapped by alien women from Planet X who wanted to suck their brains to absorb their knowledge. It's a good thing that Gamera the giant flying turtle was there to save them. A real classic.	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	All hail the flying giant turtle. Kill the unbelievers!	Feb 05 04:57
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DaemonFC	Fox News was even originally reporting that Mark Foley (the Republican Congressmen that probably had sex with underage teenagers) was a Democrat.	Feb 05 04:58
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DaemonFC	I am sooo confused - should I turn the page or bend him over?	Feb 05 04:58
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 04:58
DaemonFC	LMAO!!!!	Feb 05 04:58
DaemonFC	You know you're in the car with a Republican congressman when you're a 15 year old boy and he asks how late can you be home without your parents getting worried.	Feb 05 04:58
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 05:04
DaemonFC	"And yet...here was a sitting President"	Feb 05 05:04
DaemonFC	How do you know he wasn't standing? Giggidy!	Feb 05 05:04
DaemonFC	(Although it is easier to concentrate when you're sitting.)	Feb 05 05:04
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 05:31
DaemonFC	Oh, and also, I cannot fathom how there are ANY gay Republicans.	Feb 05 05:31
DaemonFC	Here's what I have to say to gay Republicans...	Feb 05 05:31
DaemonFC	"Gay Republican? Are you **ing ing me? Have you ing turned on the god ed television lately? You **!"	Feb 05 05:31
DaemonFC	Crystal clear?	Feb 05 05:31
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DaemonFC	The banks are just letting all the houses that they cheated people out of either rot, and letting the taxpayers pay to tear them down, or are renting them out and turning the rental contracts into "securities". In other words "Oh ****. Here we go again.". Iceland let the banks fail, put the financial manipulators in prison, indicted the Prime Minister, and bailed out the home owners. In America, Bush is a free man, nobody on Fraud Street was	Feb 05 06:48
DaemonFC	charged with a criminal act, the homeowners were screwed, and the housing bubble is being reinflated as the rental bubble.	Feb 05 06:48
gde33	How hard would it be to make this patent and copyright system where PERSONS can own things and CORPORATIONS can pay for them?	Feb 05 06:48
gde33	If a corporation creates something they can put the names of the employees on it.	Feb 05 06:49
DaemonFC	The Tea Party Trash did say they wanted less government. I guess they shouldn't complain when there isn't one out there salting the roads.	Feb 05 06:49
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer I actually had a cop tell me once that he wished they'd get rid of alcohol and make marijuana legal. He said that he never once saw a person driving 90 miles an hour while stoned.	Feb 05 07:01
DaemonFC	Cheryl Soto Whatever officer told you that, he SHOULD be fired	Feb 05 07:01
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer And you should take your cats with you the next time you go vote. Between them and the voices in your head, you should be good for about 500 ballots, which isn't bad for one trailer, really.	Feb 05 07:01
iophk	nasty spin, rather misses the point:	Feb 05 07:30
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schestowitz	> I believe only the adapter on the drive is defective, but we will	Feb 05 09:26
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schestowitz	Thanks. I will package the drive and wait for UPS to contact me.	Feb 05 09:27
iophk	No refund yet?	Feb 05 09:30
schestowitz	Nope	Feb 05 09:31
schestowitz	But they collect at the own expense and ship a NEW one	Feb 05 09:31
schestowitz	not refurbished	Feb 05 09:31
iophk	How long is the warranty on the new one?	Feb 05 09:31
iophk	It might not be worth it to try another Seagate	Feb 05 09:31
schestowitz	They didn't say	Feb 05 09:32
schestowitz	But I imagine 2 years	Feb 05 09:32
schestowitz	I already bought a new replacement at my own expense	Feb 05 09:32
schestowitz	to try to salvage 4 TB of data	Feb 05 09:32
iophk	I would set up RAID 1 if possible, if you have two drives now.	Feb 05 09:33
schestowitz	yes, Now I can	Feb 05 09:34
schestowitz	but I would need some kind of controller, and it's attached to a laptop, so lots of wiring	Feb 05 09:34
schestowitz	I can copy across manually every now and then	Feb 05 09:35
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Sosumi	schestowitz, http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/putting-hard-drive-reliability-to-the-test-shows-not-all-disks-are-equal/	Feb 05 11:59
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Putting hard drive reliability to the test shows not all disks are equal \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gkfv5 ]	Feb 05 11:59
Sosumi	hitch wins in reliability, but they sold their business,	Feb 05 11:59
Sosumi	WD follows	Feb 05 11:59
Sosumi	and yours truly, seagate, has an abysmal failure rate	Feb 05 12:00
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iophk	old - http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1999-04-16/	Feb 05 12:32
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iophk	http://techland.time.com/2014/02/04/30-second-tech-trick-how-to-delete-your-facebook-account/	Feb 05 13:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Ships February Updates to Applications and	Feb 05 13:17
TweetTuxMachines	Platform http://t.co/nNZGKK1D8n	Feb 05 13:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Nexus 5 vs. Apple iPhone 5s	Feb 05 13:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons Why PCLinuxOS Is Better For Windows	Feb 05 13:17
TweetTuxMachines	XP Users Than Ubuntu http://t.co/kgeh5BedJP	Feb 05 13:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenDaylight Summit: SDN Needs Open Source and	Feb 05 13:17
TweetTuxMachines	Open Standards http://t.co/774i7xrYi4	Feb 05 13:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mageia 4 Linux Desktop Distro Delivers Improved	Feb 05 13:17
TweetTuxMachines	Performance, Features http://t.co/XZq1XbrGiU	Feb 05 13:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Free software campaign for European elections	Feb 05 14:19
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amarsh04	@schestowitz, I have had some grief with a Seagate SATA drive ST3500418AS due to SATA cables working loose in transport (with the problem sometimes being cheap and nasty SATA cables). Meanwhile an IBM SCSI drive from 1998 is still running in this machine: IBM DCAS-34330W S65A	Feb 05 14:50
Sosumi	seagate, "the only sea you'll be seeing is trouble"	Feb 05 14:57
Sosumi	but seagate kind of always had bad reputation	Feb 05 14:59
Sosumi	meanwhile I still have older machines that at time I got them were already in second hand	Feb 05 15:00
Sosumi	like for example a 486dx pc I have	Feb 05 15:00
Sosumi	still works perfectly, I think (or it did at the time I last powered it on, two years ago),	Feb 05 15:01
Sosumi	and has a samsung hadd	Feb 05 15:01
Sosumi	*hdd	Feb 05 15:01
Sosumi	that was like one of the first pcs I've ever had	Feb 05 15:02
Sosumi	and still remember it perfectly	Feb 05 15:02
Sosumi	the first computer I had that came with a color screen	Feb 05 15:03
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gde33	Sosumi: go get it from the celler and build it back up again? get some old router for 10 bucks.	Feb 05 15:58
Sosumi	it is not in the cellar,	Feb 05 15:58
Sosumi	it is stored in bedroom back at home alongside some other relics	Feb 05 16:00
Sosumi	:)	Feb 05 16:00
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gde33	activate !	Feb 05 16:07
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sebsebseb	hi	Feb 05 18:13
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iophk	sebsebseb: how was FOSDEM ?	Feb 05 18:31
sebsebseb	iophk: rather good	Feb 05 18:32
sebsebseb	iophk: didn't go to any talks though	Feb 05 18:32
sebsebseb	since....	Feb 05 18:32
iophk	hallway track?	Feb 05 18:32
sebsebseb	what do you mean hallway trackc ?	Feb 05 18:32
iophk	talking in the hallway between talks	Feb 05 18:33
sebsebseb	iophk: well helping out mainly at our stand yeah	Feb 05 18:33
sebsebseb	since	Feb 05 18:33
sebsebseb	well some people had to burn discs etc, that's two computers	Feb 05 18:34
sebsebseb	then only reay one other showng to public	Feb 05 18:34
sebsebseb	needed something to show GNOME to	Feb 05 18:34
sebsebseb	and then I took my netbook out and started chatting to people, some project info etc, and demo's of the welcome screen stuff and control centre and such	Feb 05 18:34
sebsebseb	and	Feb 05 18:34
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sebsebseb	most of the time I did this 99% or of the time, yep they took a disc	Feb 05 18:34
sebsebseb	and he's gone	Feb 05 18:35
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sebsebseb	oh your back	Feb 05 18:35
iophk	yep	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	lost you there for a bit, what was last message you got from me?	Feb 05 18:35
iophk	since ...	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	oh quite a lot since then, well I'll do a schestowitz and just copy in a load of stuff then :D	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	not use pastebin you know, get it in the logs direclty etc heh heh	Feb 05 18:35
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/satya-nadella-brings-technical-skill-and-enterprise-strength-but-whats-the-consumer-story/	Feb 05 18:36
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Satya Nadella brings technical skill and enterprise strength, but what’s the consumer story? \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gkicx ]	Feb 05 18:36
Sosumi	article by peter "blight"	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:31] <iophk> sebsebseb: how was FOSDEM ?	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:31] <sebsebseb> iophk: rather good	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:31] <sebsebseb> iophk: didn't go to any talks though	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:31] <sebsebseb> since....	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:31] <iophk> hallway track?	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:32] <sebsebseb> what do you mean hallway trackc ?	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:32] <iophk> talking in the hallway between talks	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:32] <sebsebseb> iophk: well helping out mainly at our stand yeah	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:32] <sebsebseb> since	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:33] <sebsebseb> well some people had to burn discs etc, that's two computers	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:33] <sebsebseb> then only reay one other showng to public	Feb 05 18:36
Sosumi	sums up that Nadella is part of the Ballmer echo chamber	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:33] <sebsebseb> needed something to show GNOME to	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:33] <sebsebseb> and then I took my netbook out and started chatting to people, some project info etc, and demo's of the welcome screen stuff and control centre and such	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:33] <sebsebseb> and	Feb 05 18:36
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sebsebseb	[18:34] <sebsebseb> most of the time I did this 99% or of the time, yep they took a disc	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:34] <sebsebseb> and he's gone	Feb 05 18:36
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sebsebseb	[18:34] <sebsebseb> oh your back	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	[18:34] <iophk> yep	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	[18:34] <sebsebseb> lost you there for a bit, what was last message you got from me?	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	[18:34] <iophk> since ...	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	[18:34] <sebsebseb> oh quite a lot since then, well I'll do a schestowitz and just copy in a load of stuff then :D	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	[18:35] <sebsebseb> not use pastebin you know, get it in the logs direclty etc heh heh	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	iophk: we had another issue this year to really	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	or two	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	or three maybe	Feb 05 18:37
iophk	lots of Mageia demos?	Feb 05 18:37
Sosumi	so if you like the current path M$ is following (into irrelevance)	Feb 05 18:37
Sosumi	he is your guy	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	iophk: yeah I started showing eople stuff on my netbook	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	and explaining about Mageia bit et	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	c	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	and yep most took a disc when that	Feb 05 18:38
Sosumi	sebsebseb, I thought you had migrated into the mac	Feb 05 18:38
sebsebseb	Sosumi: hmm?	Feb 05 18:38
Sosumi	just messing with you :P	Feb 05 18:38
sebsebseb	Sosumi: a guy actsauly had Mageia on his Mac at our stand	Feb 05 18:38
sebsebseb	one guy asked me if he was running Mageia on it, I was like no, but turns out he was	Feb 05 18:39
Sosumi	natively?	Feb 05 18:39
sebsebseb	yep I think so	Feb 05 18:39
sebsebseb	a normal Mageia install on the Mac	Feb 05 18:39
Sosumi	it depends	Feb 05 18:39
sebsebseb	iophk: yeah someone needed to attract people in	Feb 05 18:39
sebsebseb	iophk: and no one was really doing it properly and so I start doing it	Feb 05 18:40
iophk	cool	Feb 05 18:40
sebsebseb	meant sacraficing talks though	Feb 05 18:40
sebsebseb	in the end, but ah well	Feb 05 18:40
iophk	many were recorded but they are not sorted and edited yet	Feb 05 18:40
Sosumi	those core duo machines with graphics switching between the 9400gt and 9600gt are kind of a brick to run gnu/linux	Feb 05 18:40
sebsebseb	iophk: yep videos will be up later on	Feb 05 18:40
sebsebseb	iophk: I still found time to get round most of the many stands as well :d	Feb 05 18:41
sebsebseb	guess how many geek t-shirts I came back with	Feb 05 18:41
sebsebseb	a few free, but most bought	Feb 05 18:41
iophk	12?	Feb 05 18:41
Sosumi	9000?	Feb 05 18:41
sebsebseb	iophk: narly	Feb 05 18:42
sebsebseb	nearly	Feb 05 18:42
sebsebseb	Sosumi: heh heh no	Feb 05 18:42
sebsebseb	Sosumi: those might be to heavy for the plane :d	Feb 05 18:42
sebsebseb	you know bag waight limits	Feb 05 18:42
sebsebseb	can't go over that or uh can't take that	Feb 05 18:42
Sosumi	:)	Feb 05 18:42
sebsebseb	iophk: very nearly so how much?	Feb 05 18:43
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Sosumi	and crapple has just pushed the trashcan pro's shipping to march	Feb 05 19:14
Sosumi	which means that by they start shipping, the gpus on the thing (underclocked hd7970 on the top model) will be totally outdated	Feb 05 19:16
Sosumi	also, issues with xquartz are nowhere to receive a fix	Feb 05 19:17
Sosumi	on the other front, iOS is kind of falling behind	Feb 05 19:18
Sosumi	which means Tim Cook, the logistics genius, is not only failing at doing the logistics properly	Feb 05 19:19
Sosumi	but also dragging the entire company on their former glory, if we can define that period between the introduction of the iphone 3g and the death of Jobs	Feb 05 19:20
Sosumi	with no actually "innovative" product	Feb 05 19:21
Sosumi	and not fixing current issues within osx	Feb 05 19:21
Sosumi	aka opengl still sucks	Feb 05 19:22
Sosumi	and minor bugs with the windowing system	Feb 05 19:22
Sosumi	crapple is slowly falling into irrelevance	Feb 05 19:23
Sosumi	which is good	Feb 05 19:23
Sosumi	hell	Feb 05 19:24
Sosumi	they didn't even get the tpc/ip over thunderbolt right	Feb 05 19:25
Sosumi	and killed all the clustering packages	Feb 05 19:25
Sosumi	so for the folks claiming the new mac pro is a reminiscence of the xserve cluster (released back during the G4 days with just a single hdd bracket)	Feb 05 19:27
Sosumi	should be reminded that xgrid is dead	Feb 05 19:28
Sosumi	deprecated, just like final cut server and so on	Feb 05 19:28
Sosumi	and it is by mentioning all of this that the flame wars begin or the paid trolls start kicking in	Feb 05 19:28
Sosumi	hey autodesk cares so much about osx that maya after certain polygon count just craps on itself	Feb 05 19:30
Sosumi	because apparently just there aren't enough animators using osx anymore for them to care	Feb 05 19:30
MinceR	they weren't shipping trashcan pros yet?	Feb 05 19:34
MinceR	also, hypeOS was behind the competition even when it was designed, and failed to even intend to catch up	Feb 05 19:34
MinceR	also, i wonder how the cultists believe trashcan pros would even be mounted in a rack	Feb 05 19:35
Sosumi	not in europe	Feb 05 19:38
Sosumi	europe was pushed all the way to march	Feb 05 19:38
Sosumi	also, I don't mean it in the hype os being behind android	Feb 05 19:38
Sosumi	I meant it the sense of how crapple has hiked the prices of the iphone and not introduced some really "kewl" feature in order to have everyone hyping about it	Feb 05 19:40
MinceR	ic	Feb 05 19:40
Sosumi	and you can always use wine racks	Feb 05 19:40
MinceR	lol	Feb 05 19:40
MinceR	also, i meant it as being behind PalmOS, winblows mobile and Symbian :>	Feb 05 19:40
Sosumi	or bookshelves like virginia tech did with their first version of the system x	Feb 05 19:41
Sosumi	it was behind those	Feb 05 19:41
Sosumi	actually	Feb 05 19:41
Sosumi	the only thing crapple brought in	Feb 05 19:41
Sosumi	was the unified store	Feb 05 19:41
Sosumi	nothing more	Feb 05 19:41
MinceR	unified between what?	Feb 05 19:41
Sosumi	that you could get everything from one single place	Feb 05 19:42
MinceR	i don't think such a thing exists yet	Feb 05 19:42
Sosumi	I meant it	Feb 05 19:42
Sosumi	as having only one single source for distribution	Feb 05 19:42
Sosumi	aka itunes store	Feb 05 19:43
MinceR	like an APT repository? :>	Feb 05 19:43
Sosumi	lets not confuse the folks out there :P	Feb 05 19:43
MinceR	i think Maemo had that before crApple	Feb 05 19:43
Sosumi	and only after that nokia came with the ovi store	Feb 05 19:43
MinceR	s/crApple/hypeOS/	Feb 05 19:43
Sosumi	no idea about maemo	Feb 05 19:44
MinceR	wikipedia says it used APT for updates :>	Feb 05 19:44
Sosumi	but it never caught into the mainstream	Feb 05 19:45
Sosumi	and the only? maemo device that nokia put out	Feb 05 19:45
MinceR	well yeah, real technology doesn't have a horde of hipsters advertising it	Feb 05 19:45
Sosumi	required a stylus	Feb 05 19:45
Sosumi	and that isn't trendy	Feb 05 19:45
Sosumi	with the kind of target ppl the hypephone tried to target	Feb 05 19:45
MinceR	the things that make a smartphone a smartphone aren't trendy either :>	Feb 05 19:46
Sosumi	like justin beaver fans	Feb 05 19:46
MinceR	:>	Feb 05 19:46
MinceR	if i was a beaver, i'd be offended	Feb 05 19:46
Sosumi	actually I can see it for myself that the ppl that usually use macs are the trendies	Feb 05 19:47
Sosumi	specially these newer ones	Feb 05 19:48
Sosumi	it wasn't always like that	Feb 05 19:48
Sosumi	I actually preferred that time when no one knew what a mac was	Feb 05 19:49
Sosumi	which also meant a cheap ticket outside of intel	Feb 05 19:49
MinceR	so did i	Feb 05 19:49
MinceR	there was less of a war on freedom back then	Feb 05 19:49
Sosumi	and you didn't have the OS so restricted as you have now	Feb 05 19:50
Sosumi	and dumbified for the sake of the trendies	Feb 05 19:51
MinceR	even the first lisa and mac was aimed at idiots	Feb 05 19:51
Sosumi	never used those	Feb 05 19:51
MinceR	jobs' decisions were fully centered on what idiots could cope with	Feb 05 19:51
MinceR	always	Feb 05 19:52
MinceR	for example, the decision to use single-button mice	Feb 05 19:52
Sosumi	but actually one of the reasons I went with the mac back then	Feb 05 19:52
Sosumi	outside of the cheap ticket to ppc and son	Feb 05 19:52
Sosumi	*so on	Feb 05 19:52
Sosumi	was because mathematica was originally designed on the mac	Feb 05 19:53
MinceR	ew	Feb 05 19:53
Sosumi	and I had a math teacher who was always touting it	Feb 05 19:53
Sosumi	and back then crapple also touted how awesome macs were for research	Feb 05 19:55
MinceR	lol	Feb 05 19:55
Sosumi	doing pr peaces with some dudes doing protein simulations and so on	Feb 05 19:55
Sosumi	until	Feb 05 19:55
Sosumi	they killed the fortram compiler	Feb 05 19:56
Sosumi	I think you could still install it via macports	Feb 05 19:56
Sosumi	but everyone knows that macports is the wasteland	Feb 05 19:56
MinceR	having a brain is awesome for research. and if you have a brain, you don't need crApple products :>	Feb 05 19:57
Sosumi	just remember when I rant about xquartz/x11 taking months without receiving a single update	Feb 05 19:57
Sosumi	I just say	Feb 05 19:57
Sosumi	it was a good ride back during the ppc days	Feb 05 19:58
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Sosumi	for me I just hope that the issues with parity between proprietary drivers and free drivers gets solved	Feb 05 20:01
Sosumi	actually, proprietary should just go away	Feb 05 20:01
Sosumi	so it'd be awesome both nvidia and amd got their act together	Feb 05 20:02
Sosumi	because they really have nothing to lose	Feb 05 20:02
Sosumi	only to gain	Feb 05 20:02
Sosumi	from quicker bug fixes to optimization	Feb 05 20:02
Sosumi	but for now	Feb 05 20:03
Sosumi	I'm kind of freezing new hardware purchases in hope IBM comes out with ppc intellistations	Feb 05 20:03
MinceR	recently i've seen an article claiming nvidia started contributing to nouveau	Feb 05 20:04
Sosumi	that'd be the killer deal for me	Feb 05 20:04
MinceR	so it might already be happening	Feb 05 20:04
Sosumi	just contributing	Feb 05 20:04
Sosumi	on some perfect world	Feb 05 20:04
Sosumi	it'd be dumping all they have	Feb 05 20:05
MinceR	indeed	Feb 05 20:05
Sosumi	and axing the proprietary driver	Feb 05 20:05
MinceR	as for intellistations, i'm afraid that's up to lenovo now	Feb 05 20:05
Sosumi	for x86 models	Feb 05 20:06
Sosumi	since IBM got rid of their entire x86 business	Feb 05 20:06
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MinceR	but not the power business?	Feb 05 20:07
Sosumi	yeah	Feb 05 20:07
iophk	They're keeping that.	Feb 05 20:07
Sosumi	power business is still there	Feb 05 20:07
iophk	And claim to be investing in it.	Feb 05 20:07
Sosumi	that is why I'm hopeful for a ppc workstation	Feb 05 20:07
MinceR	ic	Feb 05 20:08
Sosumi	but they could pretty much just sell servers and you mirror a session via ethernet	Feb 05 20:09
iophk	http://davesblog.com/blog/2014/02/05/verizon-using-recent-net-neutrality-victory-to-wage-war-against-netflix/	Feb 05 20:09
TechrightsBot-tr	davesblog.com \| Verizon using recent Net Neutrality victory to wage war against Netflix - Dave's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gkj0j ]	Feb 05 20:09
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iophk	http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/02/gates-spends-entire-first-day-back-in-office-trying-to-install-windows-81.html	Feb 05 20:27
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iophk	Vista8 fail	Feb 05 20:27
iophk	if the article is legit	Feb 05 20:27
MinceR	it fails regardless	Feb 05 20:28
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Sosumi	vista 8.1 isn't hard to install at all	Feb 05 21:05
Sosumi	unless you do dual boot/efi boot	Feb 05 21:06
MinceR	maybe gates is an idiot	Feb 05 21:06
abeNd-org	w81 isnt all that bad really, faster on the same hardware than win7	Feb 05 21:06
MinceR	maybe his pc was not supported properly	Feb 05 21:06
MinceR	maybe a combination of both	Feb 05 21:06
MinceR	well, i wrote an OS that crashes faster than any version of windows	Feb 05 21:06
MinceR	so by that metric, it's better :>	Feb 05 21:06
abeNd-org	i just installed win81 on an old pen tablet with 2gb ram, including windows updates it probably took less than 2 hours, & that was without really paying attention to it	Feb 05 21:07
Sosumi	I had to reinstall a 8.1 after it broke just after 3 days on cad machine at my university	Feb 05 21:08
Sosumi	*on a cad	Feb 05 21:09
abeNd-org	ive not had stability issues on my work laptop, & i beat the crap out of it	Feb 05 21:09
Sosumi	that for me was a record for a windows install blowing up	Feb 05 21:09
Sosumi	better than that was a mac os 10.4 install breaking after installing everything	Feb 05 21:10
Sosumi	and having to reinstall everything back again	Feb 05 21:10
abeNd-org	im no ms lover, but ive got to admit 81 is more stable & better laid out than previous versions	Feb 05 21:14
Sosumi	well	Feb 05 21:14
Sosumi	memory footprint of windows 8 isn't bad	Feb 05 21:14
Sosumi	compared to osx	Feb 05 21:14
Sosumi	which consumes more ram	Feb 05 21:14
abeNd-org	mind you i barely used the start menu in win7 even	Feb 05 21:14
Sosumi	so how would you call programs up?	Feb 05 21:15
Sosumi	powershell?	Feb 05 21:15
abeNd-org	i set the task bar to small icons & pin everything i use there	Feb 05 21:16
abeNd-org	or use cmd	Feb 05 21:16
Sosumi	if I did that I would end up with a very crowded task bar	Feb 05 21:16
abeNd-org	mine is as well	Feb 05 21:17
abeNd-org	but most users wouldnt be	Feb 05 21:17
Sosumi	I just think m$ should just copy kde	Feb 05 21:17
MinceR	i think m$ should either close the shop or make a freebsd distro with a reskinned kde and wine	Feb 05 21:18
Sosumi	get rid of metro/modern which is just a fusion between osx's launchpad and dashboard	Feb 05 21:18
MinceR	work with the wine developers to fix up support	Feb 05 21:18
MinceR	yeah, get rid of metro and modern	Feb 05 21:18
MinceR	"modern"	Feb 05 21:18
abeNd-org	MinceR: sure, when you get business apps running & supported on something other than windows	Feb 05 21:18
MinceR	and ribbon	Feb 05 21:18
Sosumi	ho yes, kill ribbon	Feb 05 21:18
Sosumi	ribbon is now everywhere	Feb 05 21:18
abeNd-org	sooo many of my customers have business specific programs that only run in windows, server & client side	Feb 05 21:18
Sosumi	in autocad	Feb 05 21:18
Sosumi	matlab	Feb 05 21:18
Sosumi	and so on	Feb 05 21:18
MinceR	that's why i said "work with the wine developers to fix up support" :>	Feb 05 21:19
abeNd-org	so there would be no way to get rid of windows in those clients even if they wanted to	Feb 05 21:19
MinceR	(also, declare winblows apis as deprecated and 'legacy')	Feb 05 21:19
abeNd-org	what vendor actually supports running in wine?	Feb 05 21:19
MinceR	who cares	Feb 05 21:19
MinceR	they just do what m$ tells them to	Feb 05 21:19
MinceR	always worked that way	Feb 05 21:19
abeNd-org	i do, the companies would care, the customers would care	Feb 05 21:19
MinceR	maybe include an earlier, but stripped down winblows as a VM image	Feb 05 21:20
MinceR	call it backwards compatibility	Feb 05 21:20
Sosumi	more bloat?	Feb 05 21:20
Sosumi	a la windows xp mode	Feb 05 21:20
MinceR	yes	Feb 05 21:20
Sosumi	lol no	Feb 05 21:20
abeNd-org	what you ask wouldnt be supportable in the corporate world	Feb 05 21:20
Sosumi	either close shop or get their asses right	Feb 05 21:20
MinceR	no, it wouldn't be supportable in the m$ world	Feb 05 21:20
MinceR	where everything revolves around their plans for world domination	Feb 05 21:21
abeNd-org	do any of you work outside of .edu?	Feb 05 21:21
MinceR	i do	Feb 05 21:21
MinceR	always did	Feb 05 21:21
abeNd-org	for more than a mom & pop shop?	Feb 05 21:21
MinceR	yup	Feb 05 21:21
Sosumi	I'm just edu, everything I do is purely academic	Feb 05 21:22
Sosumi	even the evil things	Feb 05 21:22
MinceR	nowadays i'm seeing pretty up close how hard m$ fails at enterprise	Feb 05 21:22
abeNd-org	so you have every back end & client end system running opensource?	Feb 05 21:22
MinceR	unfortunately, no	Feb 05 21:22
MinceR	it isn't my decision, of course	Feb 05 21:22
abeNd-org	is every single business process able to be ported to opensource?	Feb 05 21:22
MinceR	i just develop for GNU/Linux/X	Feb 05 21:22
MinceR	not sure	Feb 05 21:22
abeNd-org	i highly doubt every single business process has an opensource product that would address those needs, as in fully replacing a windows based alternative	Feb 05 21:23
MinceR	i guess we still have mainframe apps around	Feb 05 21:23
MinceR	coded in cobol	Feb 05 21:23
MinceR	also, i see plenty of textmode DOS apps in various places	Feb 05 21:24
abeNd-org	ive got loads of cpa firms with products running off mssql, windows server/client, there is just nothing in that space that runs on anything other than windows	Feb 05 21:24
MinceR	still, the impact of winblows could be dramatically reduced	Feb 05 21:24
MinceR	the licensing could be improved a lot	Feb 05 21:24
MinceR	even they could get better over time	Feb 05 21:24
MinceR	learn workable tools, choose platform with better judgement the next time a product has to be redesigned/rewritten	Feb 05 21:25
abeNd-org	VLK licensing isnt the greatest, but it is sure better than oem/retail, trying to keep track of that is a total mess	Feb 05 21:25
MinceR	could be freeware or even free software	Feb 05 21:25
Sosumi	so there are no gnu/linux equivalents of activesync, azure, lync and sharepoint?	Feb 05 21:25
MinceR	it would hardly offset the damage they've done so far	Feb 05 21:25
MinceR	but it would be a start	Feb 05 21:25
abeNd-org	so you want to replace quickbooks with gnucash?	Feb 05 21:26
MinceR	maybe	Feb 05 21:26
abeNd-org	not even close	Feb 05 21:26
MinceR	so you want to replace postgres with mssql?	Feb 05 21:26
abeNd-org	considering none of the vendors even support postgres, no, they only support mssql	Feb 05 21:27
MinceR	there's still plenty of idiocy out there	Feb 05 21:27
abeNd-org	and the customers they service that have quickbooks, you gonna convert them to gnucash too?	Feb 05 21:27
MinceR	i've seen a box run mssql	Feb 05 21:27
abeNd-org	not going to happen	Feb 05 21:27
MinceR	it could eventually happen	Feb 05 21:27
MinceR	and there are many things they could do in the meantime	Feb 05 21:27
MinceR	m$ is going to die eventually anyway	Feb 05 21:28
MinceR	the industry is going to leave it behind and leave it for history anyway, unless humanity destroys itself	Feb 05 21:28
MinceR	might as well start early and do it with relatively little pain	Feb 05 21:28
abeNd-org	some of these vendors did have osx or linux versions in the past & dropped them because they made up less than 1% of their customer base	Feb 05 21:29
abeNd-org	so why waste time coding for something that probably won't be used?	Feb 05 21:29
abeNd-org	so they tried, & the market said no	Feb 05 21:30
MinceR	why waste time preparing to move on to platforms your competitors are eyeing?	Feb 05 21:30
MinceR	no idea	Feb 05 21:30
MinceR	who wants to compete anyway	Feb 05 21:30
MinceR	let's just leave everything as it is and expect people to throw money at us	Feb 05 21:30
MinceR	also, throw all your weight behind windows phone, it's a sure winner!	Feb 05 21:31
MinceR	what could possibly go wrong?	Feb 05 21:31
MinceR	</sarcasm>	Feb 05 21:31
abeNd-org	yea, a lot of the cpa firms run the same type of software, but there is so much work that they arent eating each others customers anyways, so changing back end systems wouldnt give them much of anything, even if there was a non-windows version	Feb 05 21:31
abeNd-org	mincer why, the market has said no to windows phone?	Feb 05 21:31
MinceR	look at the market share numbers, since you seem to think that's all that matters	Feb 05 21:32
MinceR	and not all markets are so static	Feb 05 21:32
MinceR	in places, even real innovation is being done :>	Feb 05 21:32
abeNd-org	yea, blackberry is at 0% & windows phone is at best, what 4%?	Feb 05 21:33
abeNd-org	obviously no one really cares for either platform	Feb 05 21:33
MinceR	indeed.	Feb 05 21:33
MinceR	m$ won't be here forever.	Feb 05 21:33
MinceR	windows rt also failed	Feb 05 21:33
MinceR	windows 8.x is being massively rejected	Feb 05 21:33
abeNd-org	but in the enterprise market find me current true replacements to things like http://www.cchgroup.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product__10151_-1_10053_TEMP0186	Feb 05 21:34
MinceR	(even pc sales dropped because of it, iirc)	Feb 05 21:34
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MinceR	i don't know what that is	Feb 05 21:34
MinceR	but i doubt there's anything about it that would prevent any competitor from supporting another platform	Feb 05 21:34
abeNd-org	or http://accountants.intuit.com/tax/lacerte/	Feb 05 21:34
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MinceR	well, the official tax software in hungary has a crossplatform java version	Feb 05 21:35
MinceR	(not sure if there's any other version anymore)	Feb 05 21:35
abeNd-org	there is nothing out there opensource that could replace either of those	Feb 05 21:35
MinceR	(and yes, it isn't open source either)	Feb 05 21:35
Sosumi	but wait, hasn't the enterprise market just kind of finished migrating from xp to windows 7?	Feb 05 21:35
MinceR	but it doesn't have to be open source to leave windows behind	Feb 05 21:35
abeNd-org	Sosumi: i am talking servers, not endpoints	Feb 05 21:35
MinceR	windows on a server... what could possibly go wrong?	Feb 05 21:36
Sosumi	a lot of things	Feb 05 21:36
abeNd-org	plenty	Feb 05 21:36
abeNd-org	but when the customer's line of business application only runs on windows, what do you do?	Feb 05 21:36
abeNd-org	there is no alternative in the opensource world for it	Feb 05 21:37
Sosumi	confine the windows server to the internal network	Feb 05 21:37
MinceR	leave it as it is for now; port it elsewhere; make sure it runs on wine; run it on a windows vm; run it on a central windows vm and let the users use it as thin clients	Feb 05 21:38
MinceR	develop a competing application	Feb 05 21:38
MinceR	the possibilities are limitless :)	Feb 05 21:38
abeNd-org	yea, these windows servers arent open to the public internet, you wouldnt do that with anything in the enterprise, but im not talking firewalls/airgapping/policies/etc, im talking alternatives. you guys act like every corporate server based app like cch's product line have a 100% feature rich opensource alternative... those don't exist..	Feb 05 21:38
MinceR	no, that's not what i'm saying	Feb 05 21:38
abeNd-org	vendors won't support running the product in wine	Feb 05 21:39
MinceR	what i'm saying that there's a way forward (1) for m$ that doesn't seem entirely incompatible with what they've been ding so far	Feb 05 21:39
abeNd-org	that just isnt realistic	Feb 05 21:39
MinceR	and (2) for the rest of the industry, beyond m$	Feb 05 21:39
MinceR	how do you know vendors will never support it?	Feb 05 21:39
MinceR	it might be cheap enough to do so and might provide enough of an edge over a competitor	Feb 05 21:39
MinceR	especially as clients start getting rid of their windows boxes	Feb 05 21:39
abeNd-org	ive actually checked with some, most laugh at it, or ask "what is that?"	Feb 05 21:40
MinceR	(for example because they're sick and tired of retraining their employees for vista, 8, and whatever else)	Feb 05 21:40
abeNd-org	so no, wine is not realistic especially for an mssql back end	Feb 05 21:40
MinceR	(and sick and tired of paying exorbitant fees for windows upgrades and buying expensive hardware to support them)	Feb 05 21:40
abeNd-org	i really dont see the training issues between win95-7, pretty much the same thing	Feb 05 21:41
MinceR	it doesn't seem impossible to migrate an application to support more sql backends	Feb 05 21:41
abeNd-org	win31 & win8 (metro) are the only 2 that actually look different	Feb 05 21:41
MinceR	especially to a saner ingres fork	Feb 05 21:41
MinceR	(mssql is a fork of ingres)	Feb 05 21:41
abeNd-org	& with win81 you just boot to desktop via GPO	Feb 05 21:41
MinceR	actually, there's a lot more to it than that	Feb 05 21:41
MinceR	a lot of functions were totally rearranged	Feb 05 21:41
abeNd-org	MinceR: none of them would entertain moving or supporting other databases either	Feb 05 21:42
MinceR	the start button was taken out, put back in	Feb 05 21:42
abeNd-org	8 doesnt count, since everyone got a free update to 81	Feb 05 21:42
MinceR	the start menu was replaced by fullscreen IE that is totally non-discoverable	Feb 05 21:42
MinceR	actually it does count	Feb 05 21:42
MinceR	for a while it was _the_ thing to "upgrade" to	Feb 05 21:42
MinceR	and customers didn't like it too much	Feb 05 21:42
abeNd-org	right, so use win7 or 81, no one uses 8	Feb 05 21:42
MinceR	ribbon is also spreading in winblows	Feb 05 21:43
MinceR	and that also needs plenty of retraining	Feb 05 21:43
abeNd-org	i see my foxit pdf reader has ribbon, but you can turn it off	Feb 05 21:43
MinceR	built-in winblows apps come with ribbon	Feb 05 21:43
abeNd-org	notepad has ribbon?	Feb 05 21:43
MinceR	explorer, paint, maybe notepad and wordpad	Feb 05 21:43
MinceR	not sure, i'm sure paint has it and explorer had something of the sort	Feb 05 21:44
abeNd-org	lol, no, notepad does not have ribbon.....	Feb 05 21:44
MinceR	IE has its own stupid thing going	Feb 05 21:44
MinceR	with even the menubar being in some random place	Feb 05 21:44
abeNd-org	all the browsers have their own wacky interface going	Feb 05 21:44
MinceR	nope	Feb 05 21:44
MinceR	(then again, if a business relies on IE, they deserve everything)	Feb 05 21:44
abeNd-org	yea, ie/firefox/chrome on windows all have things placed differently	Feb 05 21:44
MinceR	ah, the m$ sense of "nonstandard"	Feb 05 21:45
MinceR	as in, different from m$'s way	Feb 05 21:45
MinceR	doesn't matter if they're consistent with each other, they aren't consistent with us!	Feb 05 21:45
abeNd-org	even firefox on windows vs linux, preferences option is in a different spot	Feb 05 21:45
MinceR	didn't even notice that	Feb 05 21:45
MinceR	then again, i've turned off the standard menubar and use the menu button	Feb 05 21:46
abeNd-org	edit/preferences in linux, tools/options in windows	Feb 05 21:46
abeNd-org	so go bitch at firefox for having their own program all jacked up on different platforms :P	Feb 05 21:46
MinceR	yeah, a menu item being different is totally comparable with menu vs. ribbon and randomizing where the menubar is	Feb 05 21:47
MinceR	also, putting randomized buttons with randomized appearance all over the place	Feb 05 21:47
abeNd-org	i dont really find myself using the ribbon in most apps anyways, shortcut keys	Feb 05 21:48
MinceR	i think you'll find that most users retraining applies to won't use those often :>	Feb 05 21:48
abeNd-org	that is still end user stuff, im trying to get out of you viable server side alternatives	Feb 05 21:50
MinceR	that seems easier	Feb 05 21:50
MinceR	there's plenty of advantages to be had from migrating to a real server OS	Feb 05 21:51
MinceR	including cost savings	Feb 05 21:51
MinceR	seems like an obvious way to gain an advantage over competitors	Feb 05 21:51
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MinceR	especially if they're wasting expensive hardware on something like mssql	Feb 05 21:51
MinceR	again, an obvious thing to look for when redesigining/reimplementing a product	Feb 05 21:52
abeNd-org	usually running virtualized, under vmware esxi essentials plus (or enterprise depending on the client) & a san	Feb 05 21:52
MinceR	wow, the most horrible virtualizer they could possibly find	Feb 05 21:53
MinceR	vmware couldn't be arsed to provide a console client that would run on 32bit winblows xp, let alone gnu/linux	Feb 05 21:53
abeNd-org	so my guess is you think xen is better than esxi55 or hyperv2012r2core?	Feb 05 21:53
MinceR	pretty sure	Feb 05 21:53
abeNd-org	uhm, the vcenter webclient in 5.5 i am sure is pretty much fully cross platform	Feb 05 21:54
MinceR	but i guess if they're trying to hurt themselves as much as possible, then all m$ is the way to go, with a little vmware on the top	Feb 05 21:54
abeNd-org	they are doing away with the old windows based client	Feb 05 21:54
MinceR	i'm pretty sure the version i used didn't have a webclient	Feb 05 21:54
MinceR	maybe the admins could have installed one but afaik they didn't	Feb 05 21:54
MinceR	again, a pretty insane way to build software	Feb 05 21:54
MinceR	'oh, and by the way, if you want to use it at all, you'll also run this piece of crap on a webserver. have fun!'	Feb 05 21:55
MinceR	i guess the next step will be restricting the web client to ie	Feb 05 21:55
abeNd-org	in the 5 yrs of using vmware esx/esxi ive only had one instance of a "PSOD", & that was quickly fixed, so that is pretty darn stable	Feb 05 21:55
MinceR	so you get to run a machine to run the web client and a vm to run ie on to access the vm you're trying to use	Feb 05 21:55
MinceR	yo dawg, i heard you liked virtual machines	Feb 05 21:56
abeNd-org	vcenter server appliance is linux based	Feb 05 21:56
MinceR	well, at least there's that	Feb 05 21:56
MinceR	meanwhile everyone else has supported things like vnc for ages	Feb 05 21:56
abeNd-org	& that is what hosts the webclient, they arent restricting it to IE only	Feb 05 21:56
MinceR	well, i guess not hype-v, but who cares about that	Feb 05 21:56
MinceR	...yet	Feb 05 21:56
MinceR	i've seen plenty of ie-only "web"apps already	Feb 05 21:56
abeNd-org	ive been running it in chrome	Feb 05 21:57
abeNd-org	without issue, so pretty sure it isnt limited to IE, so nothing to worry about there	Feb 05 21:57
MinceR	there's plenty to worry about, considering their past	Feb 05 21:57
abeNd-org	pretty sure vmware is leaning to be as platform agnostic as it can be since ms has their pure-ms hyperv	Feb 05 21:58
abeNd-org	none of my clients are running xen, even citrix's variety	Feb 05 21:59
MinceR	well, i hope vmware will manage to be more platform agnostic in the future	Feb 05 22:00
abeNd-org	by going with the webconsole for vcenter they are	Feb 05 22:01
abeNd-org	if you try using the win32 app with 5.5 it pretty much says at the login screen to use the webclient, that the win32 app will not receive any feature updates & all that goes into the webclient	Feb 05 22:01
abeNd-org	so yea, the windows only management is pretty much dead	Feb 05 22:02
MinceR	i hope they'll install the webclient where i work, then	Feb 05 22:02
abeNd-org	are you running esxi free, or at least essentials?	Feb 05 22:02
MinceR	does vmware charge extra for the webclient?	Feb 05 22:02
MinceR	i think they're running some sort of esxi	Feb 05 22:02
abeNd-org	& if essentials, do you have a vcenter server (either be it the linux appliance or installed on windows)?	Feb 05 22:03
MinceR	but i'm not sure, vmware is throwing product names around like they're charging per word or something	Feb 05 22:03
MinceR	there's also something they call vSphere	Feb 05 22:03
abeNd-org	not really but shrug (outside of the sales side of things)	Feb 05 22:03
abeNd-org	yea, if you know your vsphere server dns/ip, try the following -	Feb 05 22:03
abeNd-org	https://vcenter:5480 - that will only show up if they are running the linux appliance	Feb 05 22:04
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abeNd-org	for viclient web client itself try - https://vcenter:9443/vsphere-client	Feb 05 22:04
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MinceR	thanks, i'll try those at work	Feb 05 22:05
abeNd-org	or possibly https://vcenter/vsphere-client	Feb 05 22:05
TechrightsBot-tr	Couldn't resolve host 'vcenter' ( status 0 @ https://vcenter/vsphere-client )	Feb 05 22:05
abeNd-org	if they are running vcenter 5.1 or 5.5 that should be available	Feb 05 22:06
abeNd-org	i know i use it for my vmware installs	Feb 05 22:06
Sosumi	I see you both have experience in the corporate world...	Feb 05 22:12
MinceR	if vmware spent the money they spent on making up product names on development instead, they'd probably have better products and more easily understood product names :>	Feb 05 22:12
abeNd-org	Sosumi: close enough, IT consultant, from mom & pop shops to large colleges	Feb 05 22:15
abeNd-org	MinceR: yea, im not defending their sales folk & names	Feb 05 22:15
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schestowitz	[14:50] <amarsh04> @schestowitz, I have had some grief with a Seagate SATA drive ST3500418AS due to SATA cables working loose in transport (with the problem sometimes being cheap and nasty SATA cables). Meanwhile an IBM SCSI drive from 1998 is still running in this machine: IBM DCAS-34330W S65A	Feb 05 22:35
schestowitz	Thanks, I had my nightmare	Feb 05 22:35
schestowitz	Not sure if you saw my blog post	Feb 05 22:35
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abeNd-org	seagate drives are horrid!	Feb 05 22:43
abeNd-org	http://blog.backblaze.com/2014/01/21/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/	Feb 05 22:44
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abeNd-org	check out the horrid failure rate	Feb 05 22:44
schestowitz	yeah	Feb 05 22:45
schestowitz	I am dealing with them	Feb 05 22:45
schestowitz	abeNd-org: amarsh04 http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/02/03/seagate-evil-company/	Feb 05 22:45
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abeNd-org	yea, i buy WDC drives these days	Feb 05 22:46
abeNd-org	hitachi if i could afford to	Feb 05 22:46
schestowitz	I should have	Feb 05 22:46
schestowitz	I didn't and now I pay the price	Feb 05 22:46
schestowitz	Red the above	Feb 05 22:46
schestowitz	today I had to print labels at a high price at some shop to send back my faulty drive to them	Feb 05 22:46
schestowitz	they send a faulty replacement, too	Feb 05 22:46
abeNd-org	yea, ive got the same with a 1.5tb, ran seatools diagnostics on the replacement & it failed	Feb 05 22:47
schestowitz	wow, so it's not just me then	Feb 05 22:48
abeNd-org	nope	Feb 05 22:49
abeNd-org	pretty common apparently with seagate	Feb 05 22:49
schestowitz	cool, thanks	Feb 05 23:12
schestowitz	I posted something about your experience too	Feb 05 23:12
schestowitz	My rants about them, I reckon, already cost them thousands of dollars in business	Feb 05 23:12
schestowitz	as they deserve this very much, for even statistically they're bad, so they deserve consequences and people deserve better than Seagate	Feb 05 23:13
MinceR	i seem to remember they used to have a better reputation a while ago	Feb 05 23:16
MinceR	perhaps they learned too much from acquiring maxtor? :>	Feb 05 23:16
abeNd-org	heh	Feb 05 23:17
abeNd-org	yea, for the longest seagate was the goto for reliability	Feb 05 23:17
abeNd-org	especially in the days before hitachi bought ibm's deskstar series	Feb 05 23:17
abeNd-org	or deathstar	Feb 05 23:17
MinceR	:>	Feb 05 23:18
abeNd-org	yea, the ibm deskstar had such a high failure rate everyone took to calling them that	Feb 05 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Red Nexus 5 is here in all its glory	Feb 05 23:26
TweetTuxMachines	(Edited) http://t.co/ah7xfm45wa	Feb 05 23:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Should Linux look like Windows?	Feb 05 23:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yJ5bNnyt4M	Feb 05 23:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro vs. Ubuntu vs. Fedora vs. OpenSUSE	Feb 05 23:26
TweetTuxMachines	Benchmarks http://t.co/G2A46YaCeO	Feb 05 23:26
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkl91	Feb 05 23:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Engage women, have fun, get more out of your	Feb 05 23:26
TweetTuxMachines	open source project http://t.co/61NxoMhpj4	Feb 05 23:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkl92	Feb 05 23:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenDaylight, open-source, software-defined	Feb 05 23:26
TweetTuxMachines	networking, gets real with first release	Feb 05 23:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ogDcv0Pe7m	Feb 05 23:26
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DaemonFC	www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/05/1275366/-Google-slaps-phishing-warning-on-misleading-GOP-website	Feb 05 23:29
DaemonFC	damn it	Feb 05 23:29
DaemonFC	http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/05/1275366/-Google-slaps-phishing-warning-on-misleading-GOP-website	Feb 05 23:29
TechrightsBot-tr	www.dailykos.com \| Daily Kos: Google slaps phishing warning on misleading GOP website [ http://ur1.ca/gkl9q ]	Feb 05 23:29
DaemonFC	Firefox does that sometimes.	Feb 05 23:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/candtalan/status/431194935685943296	Feb 05 23:33
TechrightsBot-tr	@candtalan: @schestowitz Or get a real job	Feb 05 23:33
schestowitz	Gates can't get a real job. he's have income tax -- something he never had.	Feb 05 23:33
DaemonFC	Walgreens is considering removing tobacco products from their shelves since CVS made their announcement. So much for "Only in America can a person go to the front of a drugstore to buy cigarettes while sick people have to walk to the back of the pharmacy.". A pizza can still get to your house faster than an ambulance....	Feb 05 23:33
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GringoPeruano/status/431128553661272064	Feb 05 23:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@GringoPeruano: @schestowitz Hi - just 4 info - there have been reports that it may be China/India or others...	Feb 05 23:34
schestowitz	Any hard proof?	Feb 05 23:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603632	Feb 05 23:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even Bill Gates hates Windows 8 https://plus.google.com/102946757503830834230/posts/8yYuc6GSdKk #billgates #vista8 - article about it soon... he hates #vista too	Feb 05 23:36
TechrightsBot-tr	-> plus.google.com \| Homer Slated - Google+ - Even Bill Gates hates Windows 8 Goes back to Windows 7 … [ http://ur1.ca/gklbf ]	Feb 05 23:36
schestowitz	"Sadly, satire: PR for Gates and advertisement for Vista 7."	Feb 05 23:36
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603632	Feb 05 23:41
schestowitz	"It's nice of him to say that now ..."	Feb 05 23:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Choosing a Programming Language for Interviews	Feb 06 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9YWftMQ2pV	Feb 06 00:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines (GNOME) Videos is here! http://t.co/ov0D1CS9NE	Feb 06 00:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jelly Bean spills onto 60 percent of Android	Feb 06 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	devices http://t.co/1IMWzjBZx8	Feb 06 00:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Heard of the GNOME Outreach Program for Women?	Feb 06 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	Learn more today. http://t.co/TLPPFdpZBC	Feb 06 00:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ryman (Large UK Chain) Switches to GNU/Linux on	Feb 06 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	Desktops http://t.co/A1QGHSx5HT	Feb 06 00:06
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schestowitz	http://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en/us/archive/disk_failures.pdf	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	An excellent study of disk drives was published by Google in 2007. It's a bit dated now but some of the observations are still interesting.	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	...SMART parameters alone are unlikely to be useful for predicting individual drive failures. Surprisingly, we found that temperature and activity levels were much less correlated with drive failures than previously reported.	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	Failure rates are known to be highly correlated with drive models, manufacturers and vintages [18]. Our results do not contradict this fact. For example, Figure 2 changes significantly when we normalize failure rates perdrive model. Most age-related results are impacteddrive vintages. However, in this paper, we do not showbreakdown of drives per manufacturer, model, or vintage due to the proprietary nature of these data.	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	Interestingly, this does not change our conclusions.contrast to age-related results, we note that all results shown in the rest of the paper are not affected significantly by the population mix. None of our SMARTresults change significantly when normalized by drive model. The only exception is seek error rate, which dependent on one specific drive manufacturer, as we discuss in section 3.5.5. ... it as a rate, and it is meant to be	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	used in combination with model-specific thresholds. When examining our population, we find that seek errors are widespread within drives of one manufacturer only, while others are more conservative in showing this kind of errors. For this one manufacturer, the trend in seek errors is not clear, changing from one vintage to another. For other manufacturers, there is no correlation between failure rates and seek errors.	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	[Other Work]...[Seagate] rates from 1.2% in the first year to 0.39% in the third (and last year of record). In our study, we did not find much correlation between failure rate and either elevated temperature or utilization. It is the most surprising result of our study. Our annualized failure rates were generally higher than those reported by vendors, and more consistent with other user experience studies.	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	It's too bad they hid the vendor information.	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603610	Feb 06 00:47
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Should Linux look like Windows? http://m.itworld.com/open-source/403528/should-linux-look-windows #gnu #linux #windows	Feb 06 00:47
TechrightsBot-tr	-> m.itworld.com \| Should Linux look like Windows? \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gkl63 ]	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	The most Linux Desktops i know don't looks like windows.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	But what meas 'looks like windows' exactly?	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	"New windows version looks like linux. .."	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/2009_12_11-alt_tab_in_e16/index.html http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/index-e16.html	Feb 06 00:47
TechrightsBot-tr	173.21.64.166 \| 2009_12_11-alt_tab_in_e16/ [ http://ur1.ca/gklq1 ]	Feb 06 00:47
TechrightsBot-tr	173.21.64.166 \| Enlightenment Index [ http://ur1.ca/gklq2 ]	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	Vista 7 has tried to imitate the last generation of gnu/linux DE. It almost looks like a crippled version of KDE 3.5.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	The issue is not so much what gnu/linux desktops look like but that they can look like anything you want. The Windows 95 layout is clumsy and painful but the point is that people who use their computer that way can have what they want.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	I explain what I think of DE's in this write up that praises E16 and in this index of use. Computers became too powerful for awkward tabbed interfaces like Microsoft's taskbar way back in the 1990s. E16's clear distinction between virtual desktops and virtual screens solved that problem elegantly. Programs can be arranged by task on different virtual desktops and left running. The kernel puts unused programs in cache, so there's not	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	much of a performance penalty for most people's work. I do like system trays, launchers and icon boxes. KDE's kicker was an excellent combination, but there are good tools in almost every DE that can be called on.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	Other people who only run one or two applications might like a single screen interface but that's worse than a straight jacket to me.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	Most, by number anyway, have a resemblance to Win95: Task bar, application menu, system tray, desktop with file icons.	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	This is for the same reason that all cars have steering wheels, even though there have been cars with joysticks for steering: People are used to steering wheels, and through trying other things have settled on that as the most common way to do it.	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	Someone who learned on Windows will not be astonished by Xfce, Lxde, and so on, and will therefore not leave for what they are used to.	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	As the author of The Zen Of Programming wrote so well, "A program should be written so as to astonish the user least."	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603553	Feb 06 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Time explains how to MARK your #facebook account as "deleted" http://techland.time.com/2014/02/04/30-second-tech-trick-how-to-delete-your-facebook-account/ Mark Zuckerberg can still sell your data	Feb 06 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techland.time.com \| Video: How to Delete Your Facebook Account \| TIME.com [ http://ur1.ca/gkg9h ]	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	"Deleting a fog account only denies yourself access to it before the fogger would have naturally."	Feb 06 00:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603494	Feb 06 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix http://davesblog.com/blog/2014/02/05/verizon-using-recent-net-neutrality-victory-to-wage-war-against-netflix/ #verizon #gnu #linux	Feb 06 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> davesblog.com \| Verizon using recent Net Neutrality victory to wage war against Netflix - Dave's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gkj0j ]	Feb 06 00:49
schestowitz	"Everyone but some idiot judge saw that and maybe that idiot wanted it to happen."	Feb 06 00:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603479	Feb 06 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #bbc covers #gnu #linux only when it's "rogue" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26047439 http://www.northkoreatech.org/2014/01/31/north-koreas-red-star-os-goes-mac/ cheeky language all around	Feb 06 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - Apple's Mac OSX imitated in latest North Korea system [ http://ur1.ca/gklqm ]	Feb 06 00:49
schestowitz	"Smear by negative association and ridicule."	Feb 06 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.northkoreatech.org \| North Korea’s Red Star OS goes Mac [ http://ur1.ca/gklqn ]	Feb 06 00:49
schestowitz	Exactly.	Feb 06 00:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hardening the Linux desktop	Feb 06 00:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xF632ze0dG	Feb 06 00:50
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603632	Feb 06 01:17
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even Bill Gates hates Windows 8 https://plus.google.com/102946757503830834230/posts/8yYuc6GSdKk #billgates #vista8 - article about it soon... he hates #vista too	Feb 06 01:17
TechrightsBot-tr	-> plus.google.com \| Homer Slated - Google+ - Even Bill Gates hates Windows 8 Goes back to Windows 7 … [ http://ur1.ca/gklbf ]	Feb 06 01:17
schestowitz	"It's not so difficult to hate Windows 8."	Feb 06 01:17
DaemonFC	http://stallman.org/facebook.html	Feb 06 01:20
TechrightsBot-tr	stallman.org \| Facebook	Feb 06 01:20
DaemonFC	Richard Stallman on why you shouldn't use Facebook.	Feb 06 01:20
DaemonFC	I was recently banned for several hours for asking people to report a spammer that was copy/pasting a letter calling for the murder of gay people.	Feb 06 01:20
DaemonFC	I reported the spammer to Facebook for anti-gay hate speech and threats of violence, and Facebook did nothing. Disgusting. Facebook has also refused to take down Neo-Nazi pages that call for the murder of Jews.	Feb 06 01:20
DaemonFC	I realize the irony that I'm posting this on Facebook. I mostly use Facebook so that people can follow my political notes. Their privacy controls are a complete joke, and intentionally almost impossible to manage. I thought that I had everything locked down, but this anti-gay hate speech spammer could see several things that I thought were hidden. Facebook makes it very easy for crazy people that they do nothing about to stalk you.	Feb 06 01:20
schestowitz	FB should not censor it	Feb 06 01:38
schestowitz	it should let idiots speak	Feb 06 01:38
schestowitz	so we can ridicule them	Feb 06 01:38
schestowitz	Facebook. however, does censor a lot	Feb 06 01:38
schestowitz	sometimes it's soft censorship	Feb 06 01:38
schestowitz	by demotion	Feb 06 01:38
schestowitz	but its criteria for censorship is biased	Feb 06 01:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GIMP free alternative to subscription model	Feb 06 01:43
TweetTuxMachines	Photoshop updated http://t.co/mvzS9VbpX7	Feb 06 01:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source no longer considered avant garde	Feb 06 01:43
TweetTuxMachines	for IT innovators http://t.co/Ad44yuaJbg	Feb 06 01:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE 4.12.2 and 4.11.6 Officially Released with	Feb 06 01:43
TweetTuxMachines	More than 20 Bugfixes http://t.co/WMgoQOXZ21	Feb 06 01:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why open source will rule the data center	Feb 06 01:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kfpc7gDbbD	Feb 06 01:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux should be a part of School Education	Feb 06 01:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/B74CjN3Arg	Feb 06 01:43
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DaemonFC	Governor Mike Pence shared a link.	Feb 06 01:59
DaemonFC	2 hours ago	Feb 06 01:59
DaemonFC	As the result of a request from Governor Mike Pence, low interest federal disaster loans will be available to citizens, businesses and certain non-profit organizations in 19 counties as a result of damage from severe weather on November 17.	Feb 06 01:59
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer We all know that federal "disaster" loans usually go to businesses and areas that were not particularly affected by any disaster. It's a backdoor way to sneak money at interest rates well below the market rates to the hacks and cronies of the Governor and other politicians.	Feb 06 01:59
DaemonFC	schestowitz: Do you figure that I'm going to end up on some enemy lists if this continues?	Feb 06 02:02
DaemonFC	:)	Feb 06 02:02
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gde33	spin in circles per second	Feb 06 05:06
DaemonFC	Juanita Link-Jones There is a reason the BIBLE was used to swear him in ! Read it and learn things a school cant teach .Which is why children and young are being mislead into the pits .	Feb 06 05:36
DaemonFC	I replied:	Feb 06 05:36
DaemonFC	"Here's another one of these civic customs: swearing on the Bible. Do you understand that **? They tell you to raise your right hand, place your left hand on the Bible. Does this stuff really matter? Which hand? Does God really give a ** about details like this? Suppose you put right hand on the Bible, you raise your left hand. Would that count? Or would God say: "Sorry, wrong hand! Try again!" Why does one hand have to be raised? What is the	Feb 06 05:36
DaemonFC	magic in this gesture? This seems like some sort of a primitive voodoo mojo stick. Why not put your left hand on the Bible, let your right hand hang down by your side? That's more natural. Or put it in your pocket. That's what your mother used to say. "Don't put your hands in your pockets!" Does she know something we don't know? Is this hand **** really important? Let's get back to the Bible: America's favorite national theatrical prop. Suppose	Feb 06 05:36
DaemonFC	the Bible they hand you to swear on is upside-down. Or backwards. Or both! And you swear to tell the truth on an upside-down backwards Bible. Would that count? Suppose the Bible they hand you is an old Bible and half the pages are missing. Suppose all they have is a Chinese Bible, in an American court! Or Braille Bible, and you're not blind! Suppose they hand you an upside-down, backwards Chinese Braille Bible with half the pages missing! At what	Feb 06 05:36
DaemonFC	point does all of this stuff just break down and become just a lot of stupid ** that somebody made up? They **ing made it up, folks! It's make-believe!" -George Carlin	Feb 06 05:36
DaemonFC	edited that	Feb 06 05:37
DaemonFC	should have read "shtick"	Feb 06 05:38
DaemonFC	:/	Feb 06 05:38
DaemonFC	trolling the governor's page is fun	Feb 06 05:39
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer You know you're living right when the stooges on Facebook's staff are banning your account for 12 hours because you said something that hurt their precious feelings. You know what? I don't care. To Hezmana with the frelling frellers! (Farscape for the uninitiated.) ;)	Feb 06 05:43
DaemonFC	MinceR: I've borrowed your term for Orban.	Feb 06 05:46
DaemonFC	I've started calling Pence "The Robot"	Feb 06 05:46
DaemonFC	or hizzoner, the robot...	Feb 06 05:46
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Hizzoner, The Robot, only seems to serve big corporations, the rich, and the American Taliban. He doesn't even acknowledge us. To get five minutes of his attention, you probably have to buy it with a campaign contribution with five or six zeros at the end.	Feb 06 05:48
DaemonFC	The big corporations that pay no taxes, extract hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of subsidies and tax giveaways, and pay their workers minimum wage, like Walmart, love Pence like they loved Mitch Daniels. Talking about Mitt Romney, Sheldon Adelson (the billionaire casino mogul) said that all they needed to do was get a warm body that could move a pen into the White House. Think of hizzoner Pence as their man in Indiana.	Feb 06 05:52
DaemonFC	I think I've used just about every term to describe our governor that won't get me immediately banned from Facebook.	Feb 06 05:54
DaemonFC	Jim Sanford	Feb 06 06:00
DaemonFC	"Federal judge promises quick ruling on Virginia's ban on gay marriage" - http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/02/04/22570777-federal-judge-promises-quick-ruling-on-virginias-ban-on-gay-marriage?lite	Feb 06 06:00
DaemonFC	I replied:	Feb 06 06:01
DaemonFC	Even better. If they strike it down and the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals affirms the lower court, then gay marriage will also be legal in South Carolina and West Virginia, apparently. That will really be a hoot. It'll all end up in the Supreme Court eventually, and then gay marriage will probably be legal everywhere on Equal Protection grounds. The fundamentalist far-right has their fingers in a Chinese finger trap. The harder they fight this,	Feb 06 06:01
DaemonFC	the more states they're losing. Perhaps they should quit while they're still behind?	Feb 06 06:01
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DaemonFC	"Keep the cheese!", said the rat, "Just let me out of this trap!". Eventually, the American Taliban are going to be begging the courts to stop.	Feb 06 06:05
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DaemonFC	Posted on the Governor's wall...	Feb 06 06:11
DaemonFC	Governor Pence,	Feb 06 06:11
DaemonFC	Please ask the Indiana General Assembly to raise the Indiana minimum wage to $10.10 an hour and index it to inflation.	Feb 06 06:11
DaemonFC	Everyone: Please sign the petition to the Indiana legislature to raise the minimum wage.	Feb 06 06:11
DaemonFC	http://www.credomobilize.com/petitions/tell-indiana-legislators-to-raise-the-minimum-wage	Feb 06 06:11
DaemonFC	Also, petition the United States Congress to pass the Fair Minimum Wage Act.	Feb 06 06:11
DaemonFC	http://action.usaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=605	Feb 06 06:11
DaemonFC	I hate Pence.	Feb 06 06:12
DaemonFC	I want to undermine him as much as possible.	Feb 06 06:12
DaemonFC	So, I'm going to post a letter to him the asks for the opposite of what he's trying to do, every day, until he's out of office.	Feb 06 06:12
amarsh04	Pence as in Denarius (a penny, a day's wage)?	Feb 06 06:15
DaemonFC	Mike Pence	Feb 06 06:17
DaemonFC	Indiana's governor.	Feb 06 06:17
amarsh04	funny name	Feb 06 06:18
amarsh04	I never knew that some Australian currency was minted in the USA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixpence_(Australian)	Feb 06 06:20
DaemonFC	Cheryl Soto First of all, you would have to live in Indiana to vote in Indiana	Feb 06 06:38
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer I do live in Indiana, and I do vote in Indiana. I haven't voted for a single Republican in my life. There hasn't been a single one of them that's been worth a warm pitcher of [vulgar term for urine] since Dwight D. Eisenhower.	Feb 06 06:38
MinceR	DaemonFC: hungary uses robots for the president's role, not as prime minister :>	Feb 06 06:53
MinceR	(to automatically sign whatever laws they vote for in the parliament, without thinking)	Feb 06 06:53
DaemonFC	Do they ever veto anything?	Feb 06 07:15
MinceR	the second one vetoed something right at the beginning on a technicality, for show	Feb 06 07:16
MinceR	it was probably part of his programming	Feb 06 07:16
DaemonFC	MinceR: The Indiana General Assembly can get pretty much whatever it wants.	Feb 06 07:22
DaemonFC	The governor can veto it, but they can override him by scheduling a new vote and getting a simple majority, which is how they passed it the first time.	Feb 06 07:23
MinceR	that's how it works here too	Feb 06 07:23
DaemonFC	The governor can't even appoint his own administration.	Feb 06 07:23
MinceR	the president has relatively little power	Feb 06 07:23
DaemonFC	The Secretary of State, Attorney General, and Superintendent of Public Instruction can all be elected by popular vote.	Feb 06 07:24
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DaemonFC	The Lieutenant Governor doesn't do much. They're technically the President of the state Senate, but they almost never preside over it.	Feb 06 07:26
DaemonFC	The only time that happens is if the Senate is evenly split and they have to start casting a tie breaking vote on nearly every bill, which hasn't happened in decades.	Feb 06 07:26
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.71	Feb 06 07:26
DaemonFC	Occasionally, they make a trip to China to kiss ass and ask them to pollute our state and poison its residents, and create a few bad jobs.	Feb 06 07:27
DaemonFC	Indiana is now doing shit work that China doesn't want.	Feb 06 07:27
DaemonFC	They have several chemical plants and aluminum plants here.	Feb 06 07:28
DaemonFC	One of the byproducts of the aluminum processing is fluoride.	Feb 06 07:28
MinceR	HF?	Feb 06 07:29
DaemonFC	The contamination level around that plant is pretty bad. The state has an environmental protection agency, but it was completely hollowed out by our last governor and doesn't actually inspect anything or issue fines now.	Feb 06 07:29
schestowitz	http://blog.backblaze.com/2014/01/21/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/	Feb 06 07:30
TechrightsBot-tr	blog.backblaze.com \| Backblaze Blog » What Hard Drive Should I Buy? [ http://ur1.ca/ghdvr ]	Feb 06 07:30
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 07:32
schestowitz	Looking at the Backblaze article, I see they give every kind of drive they buy a shakedown run. If lots of drives fail in a limited purchase pod, they try another model. Despite this, they get lemons.	Feb 06 07:32
schestowitz	The drives that just don’t work in our environment are Western Digital Green 3TB drives and Seagate LP (low power) 2TB drives. Both of these drives start accumulating errors as soon as they are put into production. ... These drives are designed to be energy-efficient, and spin down aggressively when not in use. In the Backblaze environment, they spin down frequently, and then spin right back up. We think that this causes a lot of	Feb 06 07:32
schestowitz	wear on the drive.	Feb 06 07:32
schestowitz	The age of drives does not seem to spare Seagate from the conclusions you might draw from the graph. They carefully report results for many models so you can judge for yourself. Backblaze buys them because they are cheap and work well enough in RAIDs.	Feb 06 07:32
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 07:32
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603632	Feb 06 07:33
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even Bill Gates hates Windows 8 https://plus.google.com/102946757503830834230/posts/8yYuc6GSdKk #billgates #vista8 - article about it soon... he hates #vista too	Feb 06 07:33
TechrightsBot-tr	-> plus.google.com \| Homer Slated - Google+ - Even Bill Gates hates Windows 8 Goes back to Windows 7 … [ http://ur1.ca/gklbf ]	Feb 06 07:33
schestowitz	"Gates remains in charge of Microsoft. For him to pretend he does not like H8 is for him to pretend he does not like what he wanted. He might really not like it now that it's cost him a lot of money."	Feb 06 07:33
MinceR	apparently it's HF	Feb 06 07:34
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall%E2%80%93H%C3%A9roult_process	Feb 06 07:34
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Hall–Héroult process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gko99 ]	Feb 06 07:34
MinceR	that's pretty nasty stuff	Feb 06 07:34
MinceR	(stinky too)	Feb 06 07:35
DaemonFC	Indiana has gone way downhill from where it used to be.	Feb 06 08:05
DaemonFC	Our official unemployment rate in the year 2000 was 2.8%.	Feb 06 08:05
DaemonFC	Right now it's like 8.6%.	Feb 06 08:05
DaemonFC	If you go by U6, it's still double digits.	Feb 06 08:06
DaemonFC	And the jobs pay less.	Feb 06 08:06
DaemonFC	The unemployment rate is going down because people are losing their unemployment benefits and giving up on ever finding a job again.	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines China Picks Sides In The OS Wars	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fpVW3IDyR8	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkok5	Feb 06 08:06
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DaemonFC	So they quit applying for jobs, and they're no longer counted as unemployed.	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mutter-Wayland 3.11.5 Adds Support for	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	Sub-Surfaces http://t.co/AcytLJT7ax	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkok6	Feb 06 08:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Defora Provides Yet Another Open-Source Desktop	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sYf6WVVHDm	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkok7	Feb 06 08:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Seeks Even More Independence for	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux http://t.co/NFfFySfdb5	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkok9	Feb 06 08:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Still on Windows XP? Give Ubuntu Linux a go.	Feb 06 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yAi4DabLJe	Feb 06 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkokb	Feb 06 08:07
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DaemonFC	MinceR: Someone said they had been applying for Medicaid and since Indiana hasn't expanded it, they can't get it.	Feb 06 08:08
DaemonFC	I said that everyone who has low income should apply, then go through the entire appeals process, and then apply again.	Feb 06 08:08
DaemonFC	And keep doing that until the judge overrules the FSSA or the state agrees to expand it.	Feb 06 08:08
DaemonFC	We should give them a paperwork DoS until they fucking cut it out.	Feb 06 08:09
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iophk	http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4757045&cid=46168351	Feb 06 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr	yro.slashdot.org \| Lawmakers Threaten Legal Basis of NSA Surveillance - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/gkpav ]	Feb 06 09:41
iophk	Dice wants /. dead, dead, dead	Feb 06 09:43
iophk	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2430374,00.asp	Feb 06 09:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcmag.com \| Travel to Sochi for the Olympics, Get Hacked? \| News & Opinion \| PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/gkpca ]	Feb 06 09:47
iophk	probably Flash exploits	Feb 06 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/umSJLyRlxT	Feb 06 09:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkped	Feb 06 09:54
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DaemonFC	http://www.npr.org/2010/12/15/132072122/it-s-not-your-fault-your-dishes-are-still-dirty	Feb 06 10:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.npr.org \| Dishes Still Dirty? Blame Phosphate-Free Detergent : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/gkpk1 ]	Feb 06 10:19
DaemonFC	LOL	Feb 06 10:19
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MinceR	geekings	Feb 06 11:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Games News http://t.co/R1JgXLpEgW	Feb 06 11:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkq3d	Feb 06 11:32
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Sosumi	In a couple of years it'll be	Feb 06 11:43
Sosumi	"travel to tokyo olympics, get irradiated"	Feb 06 11:44
MinceR	:>	Feb 06 11:45
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amarsh04	one gets more radiation from the plane flight than anywhere outside the exclusion zone	Feb 06 12:02
amarsh04	Taranis drone attack aircraft: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-06/taranis-drone-uk-mod-bae-systems-woomera-south-australia/5242636	Feb 06 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.abc.net.au \| Taranis drone: Britain's $336m supersonic unmanned aircraft launched over Woomera - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) [ http://ur1.ca/gkq9j ]	Feb 06 12:03
MinceR	so "travel to tokyo olympics via plane, get irradiated" :>	Feb 06 12:09
MinceR	or "travel via plane, get RapeyScanned, get irradiated" :>	Feb 06 12:09
iophk	http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2014/02/paging-mythbusters-again-did-microsofts-windows-phone-really-grow-more-in-2012-than-android-or-ios-h.html	Feb 06 12:20
TechrightsBot-tr	communities-dominate.blogs.com \| Communities Dominate Brands: Paging Mythbusters Again: Did Microsoft's Windows Phone Really Grow More in 2012 Than Android or iOS? - How to Lie Creatively with Statistics: The Canalys Are Deliberately Misleading and Utterly Untrustworthy Edition (PS: Not first time for Canalys) [ http://ur1.ca/gkqd6 ]	Feb 06 12:20
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-founders-detention-extended-as-investigation-continues-140205/	Feb 06 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Pirate Bay Founder's Detention Extended, Investigation Continues \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gkqh3 ]	Feb 06 12:47
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/t/open-source-software/why-open-source-will-rule-the-data-center-235733	Feb 06 12:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Why open source will rule the data center \| Open source software - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gkqh9 ]	Feb 06 12:48
DaemonFC	LOL	Feb 06 13:07
DaemonFC	The doctor's office screwed up the billing code.	Feb 06 13:07
DaemonFC	My insurance denied it.	Feb 06 13:07
DaemonFC	I called the doctor's office and they said that it was their fault, so they're going to dismiss the entire bill.	Feb 06 13:07
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MinceR	http://davesblog.com/blog/2014/02/05/verizon-using-recent-net-neutrality-victory-to-wage-war-against-netflix/	Feb 06 13:40
TechrightsBot-tr	davesblog.com \| Verizon using recent Net Neutrality victory to wage war against Netflix - Dave's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gkj0j ]	Feb 06 13:40
DaemonFC	http://www.salon.com/2014/02/05/pat_robertson_begs_ken_ham_to_shut_up/	Feb 06 14:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.salon.com \| Pat Robertson begs Ken Ham to shut up - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/gkque ]	Feb 06 14:03
Sosumi	Mincer, I meant irradiated in the sense of breathing contaminated air	Feb 06 14:23
Sosumi	not even referring to contaminated food and water	Feb 06 14:24
Sosumi	but if they breath in a hot particle	Feb 06 14:24
Sosumi	they're literally dead	Feb 06 14:24
DaemonFC	20 years later....	Feb 06 14:26
DaemonFC	still playing cards against the computer	Feb 06 14:26
DaemonFC	:P	Feb 06 14:26
Sosumi	ofc you always get kind of "permeated" by cosmic and solar radiation everytime you fly on an airplane	Feb 06 14:26
Sosumi	and you also get more "permeated" if your office is at the top of a skyscrapper	Feb 06 14:27
Sosumi	make that 20 miserable years	Feb 06 14:27
DaemonFC	I managed to convince the street department to come salt my street.	Feb 06 14:28
Sosumi	to prevent ice formation?	Feb 06 14:29
DaemonFC	No.	Feb 06 14:31
DaemonFC	To melt the two inch thick sheet of ice that has been there for three days.	Feb 06 14:31
DaemonFC	:P	Feb 06 14:31
Sosumi	well that is something new	Feb 06 14:32
Sosumi	I've always thought that salting the street was to prevent icing	Feb 06 14:33
Sosumi	let me see 2 inches....	Feb 06 14:33
Sosumi	5cm	Feb 06 14:34
Sosumi	well, I guess folks will be able to perform the swan lake on that :)	Feb 06 14:35
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iophk	"Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta	Feb 06 15:03
iophk	Commentors - only discuss Beta	Feb 06 15:03
iophk	http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories"	Feb 06 15:03
iophk	http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4760601&cid=46173319	Feb 06 15:03
TechrightsBot-tr	slashdot.org \| Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters	Feb 06 15:03
TechrightsBot-tr	yro.slashdot.org \| How Edward Snowden's Actions Have Impacted Defense Contractors - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/gkr5p ]	Feb 06 15:03
DaemonFC	I just had a couple of pepperoni rolls.	Feb 06 15:20
DaemonFC	They were delicious.	Feb 06 15:20
DaemonFC	Sosumi: This town sucks.	Feb 06 15:20
DaemonFC	I had to email the street department and tell them they missed my entire street the last time it snowed.	Feb 06 15:20
DaemonFC	Then it melted and refroze as a sheet of ice.	Feb 06 15:21
DaemonFC	Then another foot of snow fell on top of the ice.	Feb 06 15:21
Sosumi	ouch	Feb 06 15:21
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/02/sony-sells-off-vaio-pc-business-amid-prolonged-industry-slump/	Feb 06 16:26
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Sony sells off VAIO PC business amid prolonged industry slump \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gkrjg ]	Feb 06 16:26
Sosumi	latest vaios were crap anyways	Feb 06 16:26
Sosumi	actually most laptop pcs are crap	Feb 06 16:26
Sosumi	junky pieces of plastic trying to imitate the macbooks	Feb 06 16:26
Sosumi	at least kudos to asus for the insane looking g75	Feb 06 16:27
Sosumi	although it could have been better, specially on the screen department	Feb 06 16:27
roy_	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/431430979018711040	Feb 06 16:55
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: I gather vista 9 will be about rescuing the turd from the punch bowl and then hoping people will still drink from it @schestowitz	Feb 06 16:55
roy_	https://twitter.com/ianbfarquhar/status/431376704284528640	Feb 06 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@ianbfarquhar: @schestowitz @candtalan I once dealt with a telco who said "our customers pay for traffic, DDoS to us is extra profit."	Feb 06 16:58
roy_	I have been paying Web hosts extra when my sites got spammed	Feb 06 16:58
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roy_	https://twitter.com/ianbfarquhar/status/431376704284528640	Feb 06 16:59
roy_	https://twitter.com/oADAMo/status/431370235430461440	Feb 06 16:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@oADAMo: @schestowitz thanks for posting this important history. #nsa #privacy #cia	Feb 06 16:59
roy_	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/431369651071619072	Feb 06 17:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@kaatje36: @schestowitz @glynmoody Makes me very happy I have one of those HP non-colour '80's model printers; works fine :-)	Feb 06 17:00
roy_	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/431368308122603521	Feb 06 17:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz indeed the NSA is no different in that respect than another once famous 3 letter agency, the KGB.	Feb 06 17:00
roy_	KGB protects YOU! :-)	Feb 06 17:01
roy_	https://twitter.com/tongybless/status/431343883654397952	Feb 06 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@tongybless: The New ‘MultiOS’ Handset From Geeksphone http://t.co/cvBazWyqWW @geeksphone @bkaradzic @schestowitz @TalkAndroid @Pocketdroid @xataka	Feb 06 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/if5X2fqA5h	Feb 06 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkryb	Feb 06 17:03
roy_	https://twitter.com/3WhyteDaisies/status/431342753243353088	Feb 06 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	-> technomag.co.zw \| The New 'MultiOS' Handset From Geeksphone \| TechnoMag Technology News Mag Zimbabwe	Feb 06 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	Couldn't resolve host 'www.tuxmachines.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/63202?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter )	Feb 06 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@3WhyteDaisies: @schestowitz @aral So true and yet the world is so stuck unfortunately.	Feb 06 17:03
roy_	https://twitter.com/radarlove777/status/431342121891942400	Feb 06 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@radarlove777: Rewarding The Enemy for a buck @schestowitz http://t.co/3eL81SpqHa	Feb 06 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@radarlove777: Rewarding The Enemy for a buck @schestowitz http://t.co/3eL81SpqHa	Feb 06 17:03
roy_	http://intellihub.com/spy-agency-engaged-in-internet-false-flag-attacks/	Feb 06 17:04
TechrightsBot-tr	intellihub.com \| Spy agency engaged in internet “false flag” attacks \| Intellihub News [ http://ur1.ca/gkrz5 ]	Feb 06 17:04
roy_	[17:04] <roy_> https://twitter.com/terminsane/status/431336824598831104	Feb 06 17:05
roy_	[17:04] <roy_> Marketers don't have the same policy, so it's a loophole	Feb 06 17:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@terminsane: @schestowitz if we cant use your personal files for marketing, what other guise can we use while funneling it to the #nsa?	Feb 06 17:05
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MinceR	http://www.pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/scariest-pumpkin.jpg	Feb 06 17:14
roy_	Fist people https://despora.de/uploads/images/scaled_full_5a3f480c1356dae4796a.jpeg	Feb 06 17:14
roy_	First	Feb 06 17:14
MinceR	:)	Feb 06 17:15
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DaemonFC	http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/01/27/sprint-announces-lg-g2-ota-update-enabling-sprint-spark-bands-and-the-accompanying-spinning-status-bar-icon/	Feb 06 17:29
TechrightsBot-tr	www.androidpolice.com \| Sprint Announces LG G2 OTA Update Enabling Sprint Spark Bands And The Accompanying Spinning Status Bar Icon [ http://ur1.ca/gksai ]	Feb 06 17:29
DaemonFC	installing	Feb 06 17:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The New ‘MultiOS’ Handset From Geeksphone	Feb 06 17:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PH8QOK1FRw	Feb 06 17:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gksil	Feb 06 17:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hosting Providers Know A Real OS When They See	Feb 06 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	One http://t.co/MPmOg67qiC	Feb 06 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkszq	Feb 06 18:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moto G goes on sale on Flipkart starting Rs.	Feb 06 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	12,499 http://t.co/knJyORcFaH	Feb 06 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkszr	Feb 06 18:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Previews New Firefox Launcher for	Feb 06 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	Android http://t.co/6TkjpZ0eWK	Feb 06 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkthr	Feb 06 19:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Picking a Flavor of Linux	Feb 06 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mxLvCT5Bj9	Feb 06 19:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkths	Feb 06 19:12
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3606980	Feb 06 19:24
schestowitz	"Maybe cops are not there to provide good public service."	Feb 06 19:24
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #CHP cuffs #firefighter helping victims at serious car #accident scene: "_If the law may kill people, then it shall !!_"	Feb 06 19:24
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TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theblaze.com \| ‘Ridiculous’: How a Firefighter Ended Up in Handcuffs While Helping Victims at Scene of Serious Car Accident \| Video \| TheBlaze.com [ http://ur1.ca/gkt7c ]	Feb 06 19:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Can Android Challenge Embedded Linux?	Feb 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Noji1I2FRK	Feb 06 19:53
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkttm	Feb 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.14 To Make AMD R600/700 OpenGL GS	Feb 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	Possible http://t.co/db0ZhxxAvC	Feb 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gktto	Feb 06 19:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Software App Allows You to Install Local	Feb 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	Packages http://t.co/fbgv7Pqdxr	Feb 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkttp	Feb 06 19:53
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MinceR	https://www.quakenet.org/articles/102-press-release-irc-networks-under-systematic-attack-from-governments	Feb 06 20:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.quakenet.org \| QuakeNet IRC Network- Article - PRESS RELEASE: IRC NETWORKS UNDER SYSTEMATIC ATTACK FROM GOVERNMENTS [ http://ur1.ca/gktyb ]	Feb 06 20:24
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Sosumi	governments want you all on facebook chat	Feb 06 20:26
Sosumi	or on companies that they can supina (if that is the right legal term) for logs	Feb 06 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MINIX 3 Successfully Ported To ARM	Feb 06 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/k6TcblVwuf	Feb 06 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gku02	Feb 06 20:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rackspace opens the door wide for open-source	Feb 06 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	development http://t.co/wNLNBuUREc	Feb 06 20:35
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gku05	Feb 06 20:35
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MinceR	subpoena	Feb 06 20:37
Sosumi	yeah that	Feb 06 20:37
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MinceR	gn	Feb 06 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Justice http://t.co/zBgkX9ZJ3M	Feb 06 23:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkv48	Feb 06 23:58
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DaemonFC	"I don't like Amazon Instant Video. I'd have to go install Firefox for Windows in Wine and get some Windows versions of plugins for it, and then you still have to stream it. Amazon and the publishers aren't really giving you the files. They're giving you the permission to stream it from their servers. I hope your internet access isn't metered and that Amazon exists forever, for your sake, if you're making such foolish "investments"."	Feb 07 01:54
DaemonFC	From one of my posts on Amazon Forums.	Feb 07 01:54
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 07 02:02
DaemonFC	I think Apple and Microsoft are going to be the first tech companies to crash. They could spook investors and hurt Google, even though Google is actually running a business and not "Enron".	Feb 07 02:02
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DaemonFC	Ryan posted a photo to Governor Mike Pence's timeline.	Feb 07 05:27
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=584555108304214&set=a.347907068635687.81180.346937065399354&type=1	Feb 07 05:27
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152187450492370&set=a.10150512463632370.395645.5738237369&type=1	Feb 07 06:27
DaemonFC	oops	Feb 07 06:27
DaemonFC	http://engt.co/1aAvips	Feb 07 06:27
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DaemonFC	http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/06/steve-wozniak-apple-android-phone/	Feb 07 07:01
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3606918	Feb 07 07:44
schestowitz	"Yeah, that's not just like haha my window closed that's like uh oh everything is gone."	Feb 07 07:44
iophk	http://www.altslashdot.org/wiki/index.php?title=AltSlashdot	Feb 07 07:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medical Device dev platform runs Linux on	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	DaVinci SoC http://t.co/GUjw27Jzk5	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxf6	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steve Wozniak wants an Android Phone from Apple	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fQeBtBuVZc	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxf7	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS (Precise Pangolin)	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	Officially Released by Canonical	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/quAG1biuQg	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxf8	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chrome apps will run without Chrome process in	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	the background http://t.co/oucJ7POEkb	Feb 07 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxf9	Feb 07 07:55
schestowitz	iophk: gm	Feb 07 07:58
schestowitz	thanks, shared	Feb 07 07:59
iophk	I wonder what Dice's agenda to kill /. is.	Feb 07 07:59
iophk	I would have thought that the site was a money maker. But maybe it annoys M$ still.	Feb 07 08:00
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schestowitz	they said it's a money maker now	Feb 07 08:01
schestowitz	the community manager of it was here	Feb 07 08:01
schestowitz	listening to what we had complaints about	Feb 07 08:01
schestowitz	did they whitewash Bill and his new henchmen yet?	Feb 07 08:01
schestowitz	I saw MS Nick did some puff pieces there	Feb 07 08:01
iophk	Don't they have even a single UI specialist on staff? Just sticking to the UI complaints the beta is a disaster. That's not even counting all the pro-M$ garbage to wade though.	Feb 07 08:02
iophk	In a UI less is more.	Feb 07 08:03
schestowitz	I don't even know what they have changed	Feb 07 08:04
schestowitz	but I clicked on those links you put here yesterday	Feb 07 08:04
schestowitz	what does Dice do?	Feb 07 08:04
schestowitz	Ads?	Feb 07 08:04
iophk	Owns stuff.	Feb 07 08:04
schestowitz	What's the biz mode?	Feb 07 08:04
schestowitz	I recently found out that Quinstereet took over many more Linux sites	Feb 07 08:04
schestowitz	inc. my former employer	Feb 07 08:04
schestowitz	This is shocking if you know what their biz model is	Feb 07 08:04
iophk	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice.com	Feb 07 08:05
iophk	What does Quinnstreet do besides shut things down and liquidate them?	Feb 07 08:05
schestowitz	some it has kept alive	Feb 07 08:08
schestowitz	but no new stories	Feb 07 08:08
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iophk	http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140204-905614.html	Feb 07 08:14
iophk	It wasn't just pro-M$ stuff Dice has been dumping into /.	Feb 07 08:17
iophk	For a while they were posting paid sponsor videos in place of news articles.	Feb 07 08:17
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iophk	http://www.itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/63065-apple-buys-back-$15-billion-in-own-shares	Feb 07 08:41
iophk	Apple now playing like M$	Feb 07 08:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android users running old OS versions? Not	Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	anymore, say latest stats	Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qBbTsFW34N	Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxnx	Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines $300,000 Mozilla Gigabit Community Fund	Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	launched http://t.co/O1kkQOipEX	Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxny	Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gender doesn't matter in Linux and Open Source	Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rSKkR0M1bg	Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxnz	Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steve Wozniak wants an Android Phone from Apple	Feb 07 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by http://t.co/fQeBtBuVZc	Feb 07 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	@NetPotatoe	Feb 07 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxp7	Feb 07 08:50
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Feb 07 09:03
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MinceR	geekings	Feb 07 10:00
roy_	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/431530265920671744	Feb 07 10:01
roy_	https://twitter.com/GringoPeruano/status/431519980836769792	Feb 07 10:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Impressions of Gnome 3	Feb 07 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3Y3fOeSr6c	Feb 07 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gky4g	Feb 07 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Let's talk Linux, but in a language we can all	Feb 07 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	understand http://t.co/P7QCYiryGR	Feb 07 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gky4h	Feb 07 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mandriva releases new version of systems	Feb 07 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	management software http://t.co/M424O8CaoE	Feb 07 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gky4i	Feb 07 10:36
DaemonFC	Mandriva is kind of deadish	Feb 07 11:45
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roy_	russopjoboa again http://www.timesunion.com/opinion/article/Sochi-is-the-wrong-place-time-people-5211320.php	Feb 07 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/6ivAuqF8KC	Feb 07 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl21p	Feb 07 17:43
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MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/pTW9u05.jpg	Feb 07 17:53
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/new-bill-demands-smartphones-have-kill-switch-in-case-of-theft/	Feb 07 19:39
Sosumi	they already have	Feb 07 19:39
Sosumi	just ask google and crapple (and M$) to give the rights to the user	Feb 07 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ceph Storage Gets Solid Endorsement,	Feb 07 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	Certification from Red Hat	Feb 07 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BWr4j9VXU8	Feb 07 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl2rn	Feb 07 19:42
Sosumi	also IBM is looking into going fabless	Feb 07 19:57
Sosumi	which on my opinion is a mistake	Feb 07 19:58
MinceR	ibm is looking into getting rid of all of its divisions, apparently	Feb 07 19:58
Sosumi	if they were to compete with intel on the high end workstation market	Feb 07 19:58
Sosumi	plain sad	Feb 07 19:58
Sosumi	also ibm was the only company that actually fuses the printed chip into a ceramic board	Feb 07 19:59
Sosumi	*fused	Feb 07 19:59
Sosumi	by printed chip I mean the die	Feb 07 20:00
Sosumi	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/PPC-970fx.jpg	Feb 07 20:02
MinceR	is that good?	Feb 07 20:03
Sosumi	doesn't look as finicky as intels green boards	Feb 07 20:04
Sosumi	actually	Feb 07 20:04
Sosumi	to tell the truth	Feb 07 20:04
Sosumi	intel sucks on their entirely assembly of the final package	Feb 07 20:04
Sosumi	from poorly soldered heathspreaders on the socket 1366 and 2011 to just using some cheap grease on the 1155s	Feb 07 20:06
Sosumi	and to tell it better	Feb 07 20:06
Sosumi	I just find it totally dumb that the high end models	Feb 07 20:06
Sosumi	aka top xeons and core i7	Feb 07 20:06
Sosumi	have a heathspreader	Feb 07 20:07
Sosumi	direct die contact would make it for more efficient cooling	Feb 07 20:07
MinceR	ic	Feb 07 20:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP to join Chromebox fray with mini-PC	Feb 07 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	available in four color choices	Feb 07 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/bRTyWr6Rtk	Feb 07 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PGP Web of Trust: Core Concepts Behind Trusted	Feb 07 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	Communication http://t.co/VkbENhBKSC	Feb 07 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl31u	Feb 07 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 20 is looking kind of mature these days	Feb 07 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wVye7Jy0ke	Feb 07 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines In the Fedora installer, you can choose your	Feb 07 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	desired desktop (and Debian does this, too)	Feb 07 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NUlOyZ3sWc	Feb 07 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl31w	Feb 07 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Releases Faster, More Stable Version 0.8	Feb 07 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1yEczilEQ4	Feb 07 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft revival only if Gates and Ballmer	Feb 07 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google aims Chromebox at video conferencing	Feb 07 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jolla’s 3D files let you print your own smart	Feb 08 01:13
TweetTuxMachines	covers http://t.co/9a9bFkkcjI	Feb 08 01:13
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schestowitz	[19:58] <MinceR> ibm is looking into getting rid of all of its divisions, apparently	Feb 08 02:19
schestowitz	It should get rid of itself	Feb 08 02:19
schestowitz	and wouldn't be missed much	Feb 08 02:20
MinceR	:>	Feb 08 02:20
MinceR	power[pc] fans will miss it	Feb 08 02:20
schestowitz	software patent lawyers would miss IBM	Feb 08 02:20
schestowitz	Which lobbies for them	Feb 08 02:20
MinceR	also, it seems that they did a better job making computers than lenovo	Feb 08 02:20
schestowitz	IBM does not make computers	Feb 08 02:21
schestowitz	it branded them	Feb 08 02:21
MinceR	thinkpads are losing more and more of what made them what they were	Feb 08 02:21
schestowitz	maybe designed some parts	Feb 08 02:21
schestowitz	it didn't make much	Feb 08 02:21
MinceR	now even the keyboard layout is lame, afaik	Feb 08 02:21
MinceR	afaik they did make a lot of things	Feb 08 02:21
MinceR	for example, hard drives (which they sold to hitachi)	Feb 08 02:22
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3610512	Feb 08 02:22
schestowitz	Well, people should have no expectation of privacy in the US either."77"	Feb 08 02:22
MinceR	keyboards -> unicomp	Feb 08 02:22
schestowitz	Exactly.	Feb 08 02:22
MinceR	printers -> lexmark	Feb 08 02:22
schestowitz	where did they manufacture in the past decade or two?	Feb 08 02:23
MinceR	and the talk of them going fabless implies that they also have facilities for making cpus	Feb 08 02:23
schestowitz	Heck, even consulting was offshored	Feb 08 02:23
MinceR	dunno, they seem to be falling apart	Feb 08 02:23
schestowitz	""The State Department has already warned travelers that they should have no expectation of privacy while in Russia." lol"	Feb 08 02:23
schestowitz	"because the state department knows everything..."	Feb 08 02:23
MinceR	:>	Feb 08 02:24
MinceR	something i saw quoted on irc:	Feb 08 02:24
MinceR	Dmitry Kozak, the deputy prime minister responsible for the Olympic preparations, seemed to reflect the view held among many Russian officials that some Western visitors	Feb 08 02:24
MinceR	are deliberately trying to sabotage Sochi's big debut out of bias against Russia. "We have surveillance video from the hotels that shows people turn on the shower, direct	Feb 08 02:24
MinceR	the nozzle at the wall and then leave the room for the whole day," he said. An aide then pulled a reporter away before	Feb 08 02:24
MinceR	note the part where they say "we have surveillance video [from the showers]"	Feb 08 02:24
MinceR	:>	Feb 08 02:24
schestowitz	http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/2/Open/20th%20Century%20Fox/Pact%20with%20the%20Devil/_derived_jpg_q90_410x410_m0/PactwiththeDevil-BoxArt.jpg?partner=allrovi.com	Feb 08 02:27
schestowitz	MinceR: but the West does try to sabotage it	Feb 08 02:29
schestowitz	fear of Russia	Feb 08 02:29
schestowitz	Fear, not hatrted	Feb 08 02:29
schestowitz	a bit like phobia, the real phobia of Cold Era USSR	Feb 08 02:29
MinceR	does fear not lead to hatred? :>	Feb 08 02:29
schestowitz	not sure	Feb 08 02:29
schestowitz	a classic sentence that...	Feb 08 02:30
schestowitz	Sometimes fear breeds respect	Feb 08 02:30
schestowitz	https://lh3.ggpht.com/-JFqzs0lEHg0/UmBHG0TphdI/AAAAAAAAAI4/l2tPilv9eIg/s640/001.png	Feb 08 02:30
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3612378	Feb 08 02:31
schestowitz	"Wink, wink."	Feb 08 02:31
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3612334	Feb 08 02:32
schestowitz	"Secret laws do not exist in a free society. Or a democracy. Rule by the people is impossible when the law (and rulings on the law) cannot be known by the people."	Feb 08 02:32
MinceR	gn	Feb 08 03:18
DaemonFC	Ryan posted a photo to Governor Mike Pence's timeline.	Feb 08 03:31
DaemonFC	The next time you see The Robot (Pence) ringing a bell for the Salvation Army, give him one of these.	Feb 08 03:31
DaemonFC	And if you don't see The Robot there, give them one anyway.	Feb 08 03:31
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165591846984188&set=a.154022068141166.1073741826.100006001205661&type=1	Feb 08 03:31
DaemonFC	Dearborn Democrats posted a photo to Governor Mike Pence's timeline.	Feb 08 03:32
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=470273083072794&set=a.341551982611572.61950.341519895948114&type=1&relevant_count=1	Feb 08 03:32
DaemonFC	I replied: You are now leaving Ohio. Welcome to Indiana! KERCHUNK! KERCHUNK! NYANYANYANYANYA!!!! (Sounds you'll hear from the badly maintained roads.) 150 miles to Illinois.	Feb 08 03:32
DaemonFC	Ryan posted a photo to Governor Mike Pence's timeline.	Feb 08 03:33
DaemonFC	Mike Pence's supporters.	Feb 08 03:33
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=584722541620804&set=a.347907068635687.81180.346937065399354&type=1	Feb 08 03:33
DaemonFC	They say that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. The Republicans in Congress have ignored the economy and jobs to schedule hundreds of votes to try to repeal your health insurance. Indiana Republicans in the General Assembly have been trying to add a constitutional Marriage Discrimination Amendment since 2004 for no particularly good reason. There is no plan except to let everything fall apart	Feb 08 03:33
DaemonFC	while we're at each others throats and their rich paymasters can continue the looting. As long as the Koch Brothers find The Robot (Pence) useful, they'll keep pouring in money to contaminate Indiana elections.	Feb 08 03:33
DaemonFC	Adriane Jagger	Feb 08 03:34
DaemonFC	http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/25422743-418/pence-mum-on-plans-to-cut-business-equipment-tax.html via @posttrib	Feb 08 03:34
DaemonFC	I replied: In other words, when YOUR taxes and fees go up, you know who to thank. Many companies pay less than nothing. A Walmart store not only pays no net taxes, they actually cost taxpayers $900,000 apiece. How many more giveaways to highly profitable corporations must Indiana and Federal taxpayers absorb, Governor Pence?	Feb 08 03:34
DaemonFC	I've been mounting an all out assault on Governor Pence's Facebook account.	Feb 08 03:35
DaemonFC	Someone asked why I Liked him. I told them that I don't like him, I just want to know when I need to reply to one of his Imperial Utterances.	Feb 08 03:36
DaemonFC	There was a scandal a while back that made all the newspapers and the evening news channels.	Feb 08 03:36
DaemonFC	Governor Pence's staff was deleting comments that were negative responses to his posts and policies. They got caught and called out.	Feb 08 03:37
DaemonFC	As far as I can tell, they're not removing anything now, because they don't want to be back in the news for censorship.	Feb 08 03:37
DaemonFC	So, there's a group of people, including me, that do not like our governor and have set out to turn his Facebook wall into a liability instead of an asset.	Feb 08 03:38
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 04:10
DaemonFC	I try to minimize my sales taxes by buying high quality goods to begin with so that I don't have to keep buying things over and over again, and ultimately paying more for the items and the sales tax.	Feb 08 04:10
DaemonFC	For example, a pair of American-made New Balance shoes that I wear every day is now three years old and I think I can get 2-3 more years out of them. They still look nearly new. They cost me $120. A $20 pair of Walmart shoes needs to be replaced about three or four times every year.	Feb 08 04:10
DaemonFC	Over time, you pay more when you buy inferior goods.	Feb 08 04:10
DaemonFC	I'll still shop Amazon even though they make you pay sales tax now. What's the other choice? Junk from Walmart?	Feb 08 04:10
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 04:22
DaemonFC	Not only did Occupy Wall Street fail to find its voice and get violently broken up by the corporations and their police, but the movement was even counterproductive in some ways.	Feb 08 04:22
DaemonFC	Some of the people that decided to camp out started ****ing, and had kids. How awful. Now they not only have no job or a $7-8 Walmart-style job, they have kids to take care of too. Worst possible situation that they could be in.	Feb 08 04:22
DaemonFC	Now's not the time to be having kids. The benefits are getting less and less generous, and work doesn't pay the bills even if you don't have them.	Feb 08 04:22
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 04:22
DaemonFC	My cousin works at McDonalds and her boyfriend works in the deli at Walmart, and she announced on her Facebook that she's pregnant and excited about it.	Feb 08 04:22
DaemonFC	How are you supposed to congratulate that? I ended up saying nothing because if I said anything honest, it would have to be "Oh my, I am so sorry...".	Feb 08 04:22
DaemonFC	They'll find out. I feel bad for them. Thankfully, Obamacare exists now so they can get affordable insurance at least.	Feb 08 04:22
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DaemonFC	http://valleywag.gawker.com/this-man-is-representing-aol-on-live-television-1518467796	Feb 08 06:02
DaemonFC	WTFLOL!!!!!	Feb 08 06:02
DaemonFC	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/05/reporter-hacked-sochi-richard-engel_n_4731846.html	Feb 08 07:39
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx1TFJ6TD9YHU9T	Feb 08 07:45
DaemonFC	Macbooks are immediately hacked in Sochi as soon as they are turned on and connected to a wireless network.	Feb 08 07:45
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 07:45
DaemonFC	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/05/reporter-hacked-sochi-richard-engel_n_4731846.html	Feb 08 07:45
DaemonFC	The reporter's brand new Macbook air was hacked in under a minute when he connected it to a wireless network.	Feb 08 07:45
DaemonFC	The security expert is clearly seen using Ubuntu GNU/Linux.	Feb 08 07:45
DaemonFC	:)	Feb 08 07:45
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2XMFBDSQX7BXD	Feb 08 08:02
DaemonFC	AOL has most profitable quarter in ten years. Slashes worker pensions and blames it on "Obamacare and two women with distressed babies".	Feb 08 08:02
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 08:02
DaemonFC	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/02/06/aol-chief-cuts-401k-benefits-blames-obamacare/	Feb 08 08:02
DaemonFC	AOL's Chief Executive Prick, Tim Armstrong, slashed worker pensions and then blamed Obamacare and two female employees whose babies had complications which required expensive medical treatment.	Feb 08 08:02
DaemonFC	Then he went on to announce the most profitable quarter in ten years.	Feb 08 08:02
DaemonFC	"It's the best results we've put in in the last decade," said Armstrong. "We had double-digit revenue growth, double-digit profit growth overall, and we announced our sixth consecutive quarter of consumer traffic growth overall."	Feb 08 08:02
DaemonFC	Then they put this guy on the news:	Feb 08 08:02
DaemonFC	http://valleywag.gawker.com/this-man-is-representing-aol-on-live-television-1518467796	Feb 08 08:02
DaemonFC	"Shingy" the "Digital Prophet", which looks more like Skrillex than upper management.	Feb 08 08:02
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DaemonFC	Perhaps they should fire Shingy the Digital Prophet if they need to free up money for worker benefits. The guy is a freaking kook. I wonder how much he's costing them.	Feb 08 08:32
DaemonFC	miscellanious says:	Feb 08 08:34
DaemonFC	That's because Pat Robertson is six thousand and fifty years old.	Feb 08 08:34
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 08:34
DaemonFC	You'd never know it of course, because his age defying protein pancakes have him aging at the rate of Captain Jack Harkness.	Feb 08 08:34
DaemonFC	If only he had developed them sooner, he'd still be 30.	Feb 08 08:34
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schestowitz	[07:45] <DaemonFC> Macbooks are immediately hacked in Sochi as soon as they are turned on and connected to a wireless network.	Feb 08 09:27
schestowitz	Just the uusual russophobia in the press	Feb 08 09:27
schestowitz	as if they're revising cold war fears	Feb 08 09:27
schestowitz	and trying to crash the games because it's in russia	Feb 08 09:27
schestowitz	trying the hack angle, anti-gay angle, etc.	Feb 08 09:27
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DaemonFC	There are anti-gay laws that are nearly as bad as Russia's on the books in over a dozen US states.	Feb 08 09:36
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/361381	Feb 08 09:43
TechrightsBot-tr	Not a Diaspora post?	Feb 08 09:43
schestowitz	"It's sad to see kids in their 20's so fat assed."	Feb 08 09:43
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3613865	Feb 08 09:43
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trying to pass laws to make back doors mandatory in tracking devices, aka mobile phones http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/new-bill-demands-smartphones-have-kill-switch-in-case-of-theft/	Feb 08 09:43
TechrightsBot-tr	-> arstechnica.com \| New bill demands that smartphones have “kill switch” in case of theft \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gl7ra ]	Feb 08 09:43
schestowitz	:@Peter: "owner of the phone".... proprietor or user? Since stuff with software in it usually can't be bought but only leased I'd say the kill switch should be under control of the end-user or don't have a kill switch."	Feb 08 09:43
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3610682	Feb 08 09:44
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: laderlappen...	Feb 08 09:44
schestowitz	"Just in case, Flatman, did you ever played to NS-CO? (due to your nickname I remembered a videogame pal)."	Feb 08 09:44
schestowitz	"Did not read it, but it seems to me the idea of a kill switch is great. So long as the kill switch is only in possession of the owner of the phone. So the bill means kill switches will be in the hands of the phone producers rather than consumers?"	Feb 08 09:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mageia 4, Firefox 27 & 29, and a Linux Language	Feb 08 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	Barrier http://t.co/D87QYslY5P	Feb 08 10:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Argentina,Venezuela Strengthen Ties on Free	Feb 08 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	Software http://t.co/BT0frly8dm	Feb 08 10:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vodafone signs as Ubuntu backer	Feb 08 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WGZDHM38Xq	Feb 08 10:41
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl8tb	Feb 08 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open IoT SBC runs Linux and Android on	Feb 08 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	Cortex-A9 http://t.co/AYdAyEW6Ay	Feb 08 10:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines XX != Years of Linux http://t.co/W2AbZLtYDy	Feb 08 10:41
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DaemonFC	schestowitz: I have a kill switch on my phone.	Feb 08 11:13
DaemonFC	Well, Sprint does.	Feb 08 11:13
DaemonFC	If I report the phone stolen, they shut it down and it's unusable until they reactivate it.	Feb 08 11:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Age of “Commonalities” has Arrived	Feb 08 11:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why Windows won't be a roadblock for SteamOS	Feb 08 11:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QaQIV0mXPL	Feb 08 11:18
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Sosumi	prepare not to laugh	Feb 08 11:51
Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-07/japanese-women-boycott-sex-any-man-who-votes-tokyos-menstruating-women-are-irrationa	Feb 08 11:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zerohedge.com \| Japanese Women Boycott Sex With Any Man Who Votes For Tokyo's "Menstruating Women Are Irrational" Governor \| Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/glao3 ]	Feb 08 11:51
DaemonFC	A record low temperature was set in Fort Wayne this morning.	Feb 08 11:51
DaemonFC	-13 F	Feb 08 11:52
Sosumi	that sounds like summer for me	Feb 08 11:52
DaemonFC	The old record was -8 in 1982.	Feb 08 11:52
DaemonFC	Sosumi: I switched my car over to 5w30 oil before winter for easier starts.	Feb 08 11:53
Sosumi	-25 ºC	Feb 08 11:53
DaemonFC	I'm glad I did. Coldest winter in a long time.... :P	Feb 08 11:53
DaemonFC	The last owner took it to one of those quick lube places.	Feb 08 11:53
DaemonFC	They put 10w30 in it. :P	Feb 08 11:53
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Sosumi	we kind of needed of needed that kind of winter here	Feb 08 11:54
Sosumi	now it feels like I'm in brazil or something	Feb 08 11:54
DaemonFC	I don't like this.	Feb 08 11:54
Sosumi	it's hot and raining	Feb 08 11:55
Sosumi	with 17,4 ºC at home with no heating	Feb 08 11:56
Sosumi	15ºC outside	Feb 08 11:56
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iophk	http://www.mobileworldlive.com/vodafone-signs-ubuntu-backer	Feb 08 13:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.mobileworldlive.com \| Vodafone signs as Ubuntu backerMobile World Live [ http://ur1.ca/glb6d ]	Feb 08 13:35
Sosumi	http://www.macrumors.com/2014/02/07/android-is-like-europe/	Feb 08 13:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.macrumors.com \| Tim Cook: 'Android is Like Europe', Many Different Things Under One Name - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/glb8s ]	Feb 08 13:53
Sosumi	tell Tim Crook that diversity prevents stagnation	Feb 08 13:53
MinceR	geekings	Feb 08 14:07
MinceR	crApple doesn't understand the term "stagnation"	Feb 08 14:08
MinceR	oops	Feb 08 14:08
MinceR	crApple doesn't understand the term "diversity"	Feb 08 14:08
MinceR	they're like m$	Feb 08 14:08
MinceR	also, they can cry and whine all they like, android is going to eat their lunch regardless	Feb 08 14:09
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Sosumi	crapple also doesn't understand the word support	Feb 08 14:43
Sosumi	or how their overhyping usually falls into disappointment once things fail to perform as they should	Feb 08 14:44
Sosumi	or fall behind competitors	Feb 08 14:45
Sosumi	and they turn deaf ears to the complaints	Feb 08 14:47
Sosumi	m$ also does the same	Feb 08 14:47
Sosumi	or telling that the change was right	Feb 08 14:48
Sosumi	and the problem is with you	Feb 08 14:48
Sosumi	that can't adapt and/or living in the past	Feb 08 14:48
Sosumi	when the change was for the worst	Feb 08 14:48
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Sosumi	some folks in the gnu/linux seems to also behave that way	Feb 08 14:49
Sosumi	aka canonical and the dudes behind gnome 3	Feb 08 14:49
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MinceR	an ever growing number, apparently	Feb 08 14:51
MinceR	udisks, kde 4.x, uefi, ext4	Feb 08 14:53
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/neither-microsoft-nokia-nor-anyone-else-should-fork-android-its-unforkable/	Feb 08 16:05
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Neither Microsoft, Nokia, nor anyone else should fork Android. It’s unforkable. \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/glct7 ]	Feb 08 16:05
Sosumi	yay peter blight	Feb 08 16:05
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MinceR	http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aqmQdB7_460s.jpg	Feb 08 17:08
MinceR	http://www.pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Screen-shot-2014-02-07-at-11.30.28-AM.jpg	Feb 08 17:20
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Sosumi	http://www.forbes.com/asap/2002/0624/044.html	Feb 08 17:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Patently Absurd - Forbes.com [ http://ur1.ca/gldss ]	Feb 08 17:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android/Linux Is The Most Popular OS In India	Feb 08 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hcGTRPK1wc	Feb 08 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gle22	Feb 08 18:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Desktop-Ready Chrome Applications that	Feb 08 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	Work Great on Linux http://t.co/gjJ3dQezFe	Feb 08 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gle24	Feb 08 18:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCC & LLVM Developers May Begin Collaborating	Feb 08 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ij4iUBcBe2	Feb 08 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gle26	Feb 08 18:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Another Init System: Sinit - The Suckless Init	Feb 08 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	System http://t.co/LLjfC3b5xs	Feb 08 18:25
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gle27	Feb 08 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LXLE 12.04.4 officially released.	Feb 08 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LDTuUnmlta	Feb 08 18:25
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3615742	Feb 08 20:11
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #india official "stripped-searched while detained in a Manhattan federal courthouse" - Welcome to "civilized world" http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/02/08/usa-india-rice-khobragade-idINDEEA1701P20140208	Feb 08 20:11
TechrightsBot-tr	-> in.reuters.com \| U.S. NSA: diplomat issue shouldn't derail India ties \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/glemt ]	Feb 08 20:11
schestowitz	"Again!?"	Feb 08 20:11
Sosumi	lol	Feb 08 20:26
Sosumi	maybe the TSA thought that his "johnson" was some kind of remote detonator	Feb 08 20:27
Sosumi	or NSA	Feb 08 20:28
Sosumi	I don't know, there are so many agencies in the US	Feb 08 20:28
Sosumi	that I wonder why don't have one for policing thought	Feb 08 20:29
Sosumi	actually that is kind of possible	Feb 08 20:30
Sosumi	by using algos to analise facial expressions	Feb 08 20:31
Sosumi	thus determining what subject X might be thinking	Feb 08 20:31
Sosumi	so yeah wear your poker face	Feb 08 20:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Look At The New Firefox UI On Ubuntu Linux	Feb 08 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UDVW0A8tkr	Feb 08 20:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gles7	Feb 08 20:35
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Sosumi	after talking with a teacher of mine	Feb 08 21:12
Sosumi	I think the hopes for a ppc intellistation are kind of dead	Feb 08 21:13
Sosumi	actually from what he told me	Feb 08 21:13
Sosumi	folks at ibm are just hopeful that they can reach retirement before being laid off	Feb 08 21:15
Sosumi	or get a new job before that	Feb 08 21:15
Sosumi	kind of like the M$ employers around here	Feb 08 21:49
Sosumi	after seeing their support jobs flying away to brazil	Feb 08 21:50
Sosumi	*employees	Feb 08 21:50
cubezzz	transition to services only, away from all manufacturing	Feb 08 21:52
Sosumi	the only hopes are to either get a new job before the next round of lay offs	Feb 08 21:52
Sosumi	or hope the job can last till the retiring age	Feb 08 21:53
Sosumi	*retirement	Feb 08 21:53
*Sosumi Zzzzzzº		Feb 08 21:53
Sosumi	cubezzz, aka transition into irrelevance	Feb 08 21:54
cubezzz	actually chip fab is extremely bad for the environment	Feb 08 21:54
cubezzz	sucks, but there it is	Feb 08 21:55
Sosumi	fragmented depleted uranium shells all over the entire middle east and north africa are worst for the environment than chip manufacturing	Feb 08 21:57
Sosumi	probably having to do with the extraction of rare earths	Feb 08 21:57
cubezzz	I'm a computing minimalist, so I use old computers :)	Feb 08 21:58
Sosumi	like a motorola 68k?	Feb 08 21:59
Sosumi	:P	Feb 08 21:59
cubezzz	I have one :)	Feb 08 21:59
Sosumi	I have one too	Feb 08 21:59
cubezzz	no, mainly I use slot 1 p3's	Feb 08 21:59
Sosumi	on my ti 89 calculator	Feb 08 21:59
Sosumi	:)	Feb 08 21:59
cubezzz	in the mid-80's I was a programmer on an IBM 4341	Feb 08 21:59
cubezzz	we got lots of work done on it'	Feb 08 22:00
cubezzz	it had 16 megs of ram	Feb 08 22:00
cubezzz	this machine has 256 megs, so tons of ram :)	Feb 08 22:00
Sosumi	if you say so...	Feb 08 22:01
cubezzz	I'm only a quasi-minimalist, a true minimalist wouldn't even run X	Feb 08 22:02
Sosumi	but to me it seems that you're kind of crippling yourself with such machine	Feb 08 22:02
Sosumi	the last p3 I used was on a compaq armada laptop,	Feb 08 22:03
Sosumi	but its sole use was for pdf/djvu reading, minor text editing and mail work	Feb 08 22:04
Sosumi	and even for that it was kind of sluggish	Feb 08 22:04
Sosumi	but bearable	Feb 08 22:04
cubezzz	well, I'm guessing that's an artifact of the software you use	Feb 08 22:05
cubezzz	I write a lot of my own software	Feb 08 22:05
Sosumi	but you're not writing your own pdf viewer, right?	Feb 08 22:07
cubezzz	not currently :)	Feb 08 22:08
Sosumi	:)	Feb 08 22:08
cubezzz	I can run kpdf on a 512 meg machine	Feb 08 22:08
Sosumi	kde 3.5?	Feb 08 22:10
cubezzz	kde 3.5 or older	Feb 08 22:10
Sosumi	but that is no longer the default viewer for kde 4	Feb 08 22:11
cubezzz	right, but I don't bother with KDE 4	Feb 08 22:12
cubezzz	there's a big schism there	Feb 08 22:12
cubezzz	the first schism was the transition from KDE 1 to KDE 2	Feb 08 22:12
cubezzz	so I figured out a way to run all the stuff I wanted on KDE 3.5.10	Feb 08 22:13
Sosumi	never used those versions of kde	Feb 08 22:13
cubezzz	I could even port some KDE 4 applications over to KDE 3.5.10	Feb 08 22:13
Sosumi	other than version 4	Feb 08 22:14
cubezzz	well, things got a bit overly voluminous after 3.5	Feb 08 22:14
cubezzz	some KDE 1.0 programers hated KDE 2 :)	Feb 08 22:14
Sosumi	I tended to angle towards enlightenment	Feb 08 22:15
Sosumi	and kind of still	Feb 08 22:15
Sosumi	do	Feb 08 22:15
cubezzz	actually I mostly write GUI's in motif	Feb 08 22:15
cubezzz	there's no reason why one can't run KDE 1.0 stuff on KDE 3.5.10 though	Feb 08 22:16
cubezzz	so I carried over all the stuff I liked	Feb 08 22:16
Sosumi	which kde 1.0 stuff in particular?	Feb 08 22:17
cubezzz	oh there was only the one program actually	Feb 08 22:36
cubezzz	krubik :)	Feb 08 22:36
cubezzz	most of the advances in GUIs have been cosmetic	Feb 08 22:37
cubezzz	stuff keeps getting orphaned so I went to a lot of trouble archiving source code for older KDE	Feb 08 22:40
cubezzz	and KDE itself is a result of the baroque programming style of X	Feb 08 22:46
cubezzz	the trouble is that KDE pretty bloated	Feb 08 22:46
cubezzz	KDE is	Feb 08 22:47
cubezzz	running plain ol' mwm is noticeably faster	Feb 08 22:49
cubezzz	the real problem is memory	Feb 08 22:50
cubezzz	not many developers test on systems with 256 megs of memory	Feb 08 22:50
MinceR	mwm is so feature-poor it isn't funny	Feb 08 23:37
MinceR	no ewmh support, not replaceable	Feb 08 23:37
cubezzz	what's not replaceable?	Feb 08 23:44
MinceR	another wm trying to replace it can't do so	Feb 08 23:46
MinceR	not sure if that's an ewmh feature or not	Feb 08 23:46
cubezzz	normally I'd just exit the window manager or run two window managers	Feb 08 23:48
cubezzz	xinit mwm -- :8	Feb 08 23:48
MinceR	won't work if mwm is the session manager :>	Feb 08 23:49
cubezzz	sure it will, I just did it :)	Feb 08 23:50
cubezzz	I'm running two mwm's now :)	Feb 08 23:51
MinceR	on two x servers	Feb 08 23:51
cubezzz	honestly, I don't know	Feb 08 23:54
cubezzz	I got KDE 3.5 and two mwm's running	Feb 08 23:54
cubezzz	there's one X process	Feb 08 23:55
cubezzz	not sure what exactly xinit does	Feb 08 23:56
MinceR	manages the lifetime of an x session, apparently	Feb 08 23:58
cubezzz	I don't think I want to try running two KDE's though :)	Feb 08 23:58
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MinceR	doesn't it get cold in indiana? :>	Feb 02 00:00
DaemonFC	I don't even know why I squeeze the toothpaste out of the tube. When I was at the post office one day, the thought occurred to me that Colgate had sent out a $1 off coupon in the junk mail that week, and Kroger had the toothpaste for $1 per 4.6 ounce tube.	Feb 02 00:18
DaemonFC	So I fished all of the coupons out of the trash at the post office and bought over 100 tubes of toothpaste the next time I went to the store for milk and bread.	Feb 02 00:19
DaemonFC	That was definitely one of my stranger shopping trips.	Feb 02 00:19
DaemonFC	I did the same thing with Edge shave gel. I had dozens of $1 off coupons, and Kroger clearanced out the "sensitive skin" one for 88 cents, so I bought everything on the shelf, and then went into the back to use the restroom. On my way out, I looked for more unopened cases of it and found several of them, so I bought those too.	Feb 02 00:20
DaemonFC	They paid me 22 cents per can.	Feb 02 00:21
DaemonFC	:)	Feb 02 00:21
DaemonFC	I managed to find 52 cans of it in total.	Feb 02 00:21
MinceR	:)	Feb 02 00:22
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxUN0ZLH5THGBO	Feb 02 00:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: President Obama has issued fewer executive orders than any president since Grover Cleveland. [ http://ur1.ca/gjnz1 ]	Feb 02 00:25
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 00:25
DaemonFC	Which ones do right-wingers actually find controversial?	Feb 02 00:25
DaemonFC	Please list them and why you think each one is controversial.	Feb 02 00:25
DaemonFC	If you could also provide information about which sections of which orders violate any particular section of the constitution or the United States Code, please provide this information as well.	Feb 02 00:25
DaemonFC	Thank you.	Feb 02 00:25
DaemonFC	If you need help, here's the entire list with links to the text of each order. There are 166 in total, and most of them make for some pretty dry reading.	Feb 02 00:25
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders_13489_and_above	Feb 02 00:25
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| List of United States federal executive orders 13489 and above - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gjnz2 ]	Feb 02 00:25
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 00:25
DaemonFC	My favorite was the one where he provided for an order of succession in the department of agriculture.	Feb 02 00:25
DaemonFC	Clearly, he's up to something.... rolls eyes	Feb 02 00:25
DaemonFC	Tyrone Slothrop says:	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	That's for when the Cylons attack!	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	By your command!	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	Or the Daleks.	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	EXTERMINATE!	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	Or the Cybermen.	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	DELETE!	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	Or the Borg.	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	You will be assassinated. Resistance is futile. Your agricultural bureaucracy will be added to our own.	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	I mean, the possibilities really are endless.	Feb 02 00:26
DaemonFC	assimilated	Feb 02 00:28
DaemonFC	damn autocorrect	Feb 02 00:28
MinceR	:)	Feb 02 00:29
DaemonFC	To be totally fair, federal agencies do tend to expand until there's nothing left that they don't do.	Feb 02 00:33
DaemonFC	The department of agriculture even has rent subsidies and low interest mortgage programs for rural areas.	Feb 02 00:33
DaemonFC	Even though the Housing and Urban Development and Federal Housing Agencies do the same kind of stuff.	Feb 02 00:34
DaemonFC	They all run their programs in rural areas.	Feb 02 00:34
DaemonFC	What would be the harm in getting rid of the USDA and FHA rent and mortgage programs and giving them to HUD?	Feb 02 00:35
DaemonFC	Would anyone notice?	Feb 02 00:35
DaemonFC	I'll bet it would save billions of dollars.	Feb 02 00:35
DaemonFC	There are several federal law enforcement agencies with overlapping mandates and jurisdiction.	Feb 02 00:36
DaemonFC	Would consolidating them all into the FBI save money? Probably.	Feb 02 00:36
DaemonFC	The USDA, FDA, and Department of Education all regulate the school lunch program.	Feb 02 00:37
DaemonFC	Would picking one agency to run the school lunch program hurt anyone?	Feb 02 00:37
DaemonFC	If you find anything the government does, you'll find three or four agencies and lots of duplications.	Feb 02 00:38
DaemonFC	You could probably consolidate all of the agencies and all of their programs, fire thousands of bureaucrats and federal agents, and get the same stuff done.	Feb 02 00:39
MinceR	gn	Feb 02 01:11
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	Unchained Capitalism only knows two rules.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	Do anything that you can get away with to make more money, and let the buyer beware.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	The system is unsustainable. The Republicans want that system, and most Democrats appear to want to give people just enough that they don't become angry and violent.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	Most Democrats want a system that curtails only the worst excesses of capitalism and saves it from itself. I don't think that's a good thing, but it's better than what the Republicans want to do.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	I don't like to consider myself a Democrat, because the mainstream party is too far to the right, but I do vote for them because it's less bad than the worst thing that could happen.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	Romney is a product of a system that rewards people for taking advantage of others and living a parasitic lifestyle. His father was a job creator and a producer. Romney is just a business criminal and a thug that wears a suit and steals from people using legal methods.	Feb 02 01:32
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 01:38
DaemonFC	And on that topic, I refuse to ever pay money for books with DRM, where the maker of the computer that reads them has a backdoor and a delete button with which to control what is on my device, and I can't "move them to a different shelf" (another type of computer).	Feb 02 01:38
DaemonFC	If the publisher or Amazon threw a brick through the window of your living room and stole books from your bookshelf, that would be against the law.	Feb 02 01:38
DaemonFC	Why are they allowed to do the same thing and call it "Kindle Books"?	Feb 02 01:39
DaemonFC	Apple, Google, and Barnes & Noble do the same thing. I don't read books on my phone unless they have no DRM.	Feb 02 01:39
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 01:58
DaemonFC	Comcast cold called me on my cell phone the other day offering to save me money.	Feb 02 01:58
DaemonFC	By the time I got them to admit how much they were going to save me vs. my internet-only account, it was going to save me negative $120.	Feb 02 01:58
DaemonFC	It included home phone service so that I could talk to other telemarketers. :)	Feb 02 01:58
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2Z7UQQ5A3B8SN	Feb 02 05:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The NFL has about $9.5 billion in revenue and hasn't paid taxes since 1966. [ http://ur1.ca/gjowm ]	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	http://politicalloudmouth.com/2014/01/30/nfl-nonprofit-football-league/	Feb 02 05:08
TechrightsBot-tr	politicalloudmouth.com \| NFL = “Nonprofit Football League?” [ http://ur1.ca/gjowq ]	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	The NFL, not counting the players or teams themselves, has revenue of about $9.5 billion per year, and has not paid taxes since 1966.	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	They're tax-exempt as a "non-profit organization".	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	They're also one of the most extreme copyright and trademark trolls ever. "You can't record this without the permission of the NFL".	Feb 02 05:08
DaemonFC	Does anyone's DVR forbid them from recording the game whose name shall not be spoken? Please tell me if it allows you to record the game or if an anti-feature kicks in and tells you that you can't do that.	Feb 02 05:08
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 07:15
DaemonFC	The GPL license is probably what has held the kernel Linux and the GNU system into single coherent projects, and not the somewhat incompatible mess that the various BSD operating systems (with their "permissive" non-copyleft licensing) have, where companies like Apple take whatever the hell they want, and give back whatever they feel like.	Feb 02 07:15
DaemonFC	It's caused a huge huge HUGE mess over in BSD-land. Corporations don't like to cooperate. The GPL simply requires them to or they face legal consequences. It probably also explains why none of the BSDs are as technically advanced, overall, as GNU and Linux are.	Feb 02 07:15
DaemonFC	Various GNU/Linux distributions are usually broadly compatible with one another, even though there are many of them, while from BSD to BSD, an entire swath of features that exists in one may not exist at all in the others.	Feb 02 07:15
DaemonFC	Ironically, wanting to be "friendly" to corporations with the BSD license has created a situation where the BSD operating systems aren't very good and Google and other companies didn't even really bother to create consumer products out of them. Apple is an odd exception. The BSD philosophy is the tragedy of the commons.	Feb 02 07:16
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DaemonFC	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4OTY	Feb 02 08:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Ubuntu Planning To Develop Its Own File Manager [ http://ur1.ca/gjplc ]	Feb 02 08:12
DaemonFC	Apparently, Unity is switching to Qt 5 and Ubuntu is developing their own file manager.	Feb 02 08:13
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 08:33
DaemonFC	http://www.occupydemocrats.com/in-rare-moment-of-honesty-wal-mart-admits-that-food-stamps-subsidize-their-profits/	Feb 02 08:33
TechrightsBot-tr	www.occupydemocrats.com \| In Rare Moment of Honesty, Wal-Mart Admits that Food Stamps Subsidize their Profits [ http://ur1.ca/gjpog ]	Feb 02 08:33
DaemonFC	Every cloud has the silver lining.	Feb 02 08:33
DaemonFC	Some Walmart stores have 35% of their store revenue coming from food stamps, and most of their employees are propped up by food stamps as well, because work at Walmart pays them almost nothing.	Feb 02 08:33
DaemonFC	I haven't shopped at a Walmart since I left my position as an assistant manager in 2006.	Feb 02 08:33
DaemonFC	Even then, I didn't actually shop there too much. I've always hated the company, but it was a job when nobody else was hiring, even though it didn't pay the bills for the first year I worked there ($6.95 an hour in 2004).	Feb 02 08:33
DaemonFC	The Store Manager we had was awful. He actually kept tabs on how many times you slid your discount card so that he would know how much of your money was going right back to Walmart.	Feb 02 08:33
DaemonFC	He yelled at me one month because I only spent a few dollars on a deli sandwich and some chips because I forget and left my lunch at home.	Feb 02 08:33
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DaemonFC	When I worked at Walmart, I slid my discount card for everyone I knew.	Feb 02 09:26
DaemonFC	You could get fired for that, but they never caught me.	Feb 02 09:26
DaemonFC	Probably cost them over $1,000.	Feb 02 09:26
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	Microsoft has a habit of using undocumented features in their software to make their programs do things that others can't.	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	For a long time, we had the problem of relatively slow computers (think late 90s, early 2000s) and web browsers. Windows would start up and preload most of the stuff it took to run Internet Explorer, while other browsers couldn't do that.	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	If you wanted to use Internet Explorer, it only took a second or two to open it. If you wanted to use Netscape (later Mozilla), it took about 10 seconds to load. In the mean time, you got a splash screen to look at.	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	It was one of the monopoly abuses that came up in United States v. Microsoft.	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	Also, around the time of the Internet Explorer 4 "shell update" for Windows 95, and the new IE shell integration in Windows 98 (which effectively tripled the memory requirements of the shell and caused it to leak and frequently crash, but oh well, that's Microsoft), Netscape Navigator started to crash a lot where that hardly ever happened before.	Feb 02 10:37
DaemonFC	Anyway, this shell was a bloated leaky pile of crap, but it loaded nearly everything that Internet Explorer needed, and it caused all applications on the computer to run slower, but IE appeared to be "faster", and so that's what Microsoft did.	Feb 02 10:37
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Feb 03 01:58
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noblewolf	Hello	Feb 03 02:09
noblewolf	is there anyone there?	Feb 03 02:11
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schestowitz	Seagate say they'll call back soon re bad drives	Feb 03 17:53
schestowitz	"	Feb 03 17:53
schestowitz	Hi Kerstin	Feb 03 17:53
schestowitz	Finally I speak to an actual person.	Feb 03 17:53
schestowitz	See below;	Feb 03 17:53
schestowitz	-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----	Feb 03 17:53
schestowitz	Hash: SHA1	Feb 03 17:53
schestowitz	> In order to receive a response to your inquiry, please contact your	Feb 03 17:53
schestowitz	> customer support:	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	>	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	> _http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/about/contact-us/technical-support/_	Feb 03 17:54
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 404 @ http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/about/contact-us/technical-support/_/ )	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	There is no customer support there. There is:	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	"Create a Support Case"	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	This is for other type of queries. It would take me nowhere.	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	Please reply to my original query.	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	Badmouthing you for horrible service (in public) would be my next resort.	Feb 03 17:54
schestowitz	"	Feb 03 17:54
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iophk	Two dead drives in a row from them?	Feb 03 17:57
schestowitz	yeah!	Feb 03 17:57
schestowitz	See my blog	Feb 03 17:57
Sosumi	from whom?	Feb 03 17:57
Sosumi	seagate?	Feb 03 17:57
schestowitz	yeah, their official account is trying to silence me now https://twitter.com/AskSeagate/status/430381763656187904	Feb 03 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@AskSeagate: @schestowitz We have found your email support case 03930066 & will have an agent from your region contact you ASAP during our business hours	Feb 03 17:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AskSeagate/status/430373632578433024 https://twitter.com/AskSeagate/status/430373369616543744	Feb 03 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@AskSeagate: @schestowitz @seagate 8am-5pm CET Mon-Fri or email: http://t.co/HdzOCsljD2 This would be proper contacts to resolve this problem	Feb 03 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> support2.seagate.com \| NO TITLE	Feb 03 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@AskSeagate: @schestowitz @seagate We apologize for the problem with the replacement drive.Please contact our warranty dept at freephone 00.800.4732.4283	Feb 03 17:58
schestowitz	Official account: https://twitter.com/Seagate/status/430363295778754560 https://twitter.com/Seagate/status/430342123976548353	Feb 03 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@Seagate: @schestowitz @AskSeagate Support is available to help Mon-Fri 8:00a-6:00p Central Time (US), so they should be on very soon!	Feb 03 17:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@Seagate: @schestowitz I'm sorry about your negative experience. Please get in touch with our support team @AskSeagate, so they can assist you.	Feb 03 17:58
Sosumi	lol, seagate shipping hdd refurbs again	Feb 03 17:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/CryptoPartyMCR/status/430330768548585473	Feb 03 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@CryptoPartyMCR: @schestowitz OOOH, your in manchester! Are you coming to the #freesoftware festival this week? http://t.co/FLmVGQYkTp - starts tonight!	Feb 03 17:59
TechrightsBot-tr	-> freeasinfreedom.org.uk \| Free Software Festival – Manchester \| Free Software Foundation Europe - Manchester	Feb 03 17:59
iophk	Seagate got panned in recent reviews, too. This seems to support the findings.	Feb 03 17:59
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Sosumi	not a fan seagate	Feb 03 17:59
Sosumi	and always had problems with their drives	Feb 03 18:00
iophk	You'd figure that if the first drive was bad, they'd make a point of sending a good drive as a replacement.	Feb 03 18:00
schestowitz	they nought maxtor	Feb 03 18:00
schestowitz	not much option left, esp. for high volume drives	Feb 03 18:00
iophk	Hitachi?	Feb 03 18:00
schestowitz	My wife and I might come later this week	Feb 03 18:00
Sosumi	hitachi's hdd division got bought by a consortium belonging to WD	Feb 03 18:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/CryptoPartyMCR/status/430329890185805825	Feb 03 18:01
TechrightsBot-tr	@CryptoPartyMCR: @schestowitz yeah, it's harsh. I put it on #wikipedia - wonder who is behind it? Bored kids on an island or NSA, lol.	Feb 03 18:01
schestowitz	WD is evil for other reasons	Feb 03 18:01
schestowitz	and their drives are smaller and more expensive	Feb 03 18:01
schestowitz	Hitachi used to be IBM's HDD 'division'	Feb 03 18:01
Sosumi	but I'm yet to have a broken WD hdd	Feb 03 18:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/dailylinuxuser/status/430129278798151681 https://twitter.com/dailylinuxuser/status/430128776802885632	Feb 03 18:02
TechrightsBot-tr	@dailylinuxuser: @schestowitz Maybe the way to solve the surveillance thing is for everyone to start talking about the things they'd be interested in.	Feb 03 18:02
TechrightsBot-tr	@dailylinuxuser: @schestowitz I can only hope that come September that Scotland is an independant country	Feb 03 18:02
Sosumi	the same I can't say for toshiba, seagate and fujitsu	Feb 03 18:02
schestowitz	WD was very big back in the days	Feb 03 18:02
schestowitz	Do those companies do business with NSA too?	Feb 03 18:03
schestowitz	I know Seagate does...	Feb 03 18:03
iophk	probably	Feb 03 18:03
schestowitz	http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/02/03/seagate-evil-company/	Feb 03 18:03
TechrightsBot-tr	schestowitz.com \| schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » If You Are Not a Large-scale Privacy Violator, Then Seagate Does Not Care About You [ http://ur1.ca/gk13f ]	Feb 03 18:03
iophk	The CCC presentation / Guardian article mentioned HD firware getting cracked but I don't recall which brands.	Feb 03 18:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Nutzwert/status/430081780519944193	Feb 03 18:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@Nutzwert: @schestowitz My file-manager isEmacs.	Feb 03 18:04
schestowitz	iophk: many	Feb 03 18:04
schestowitz	I looked up the list again today, Seagate is one of several	Feb 03 18:04
schestowitz	Seagate is based near Apple	Feb 03 18:04
schestowitz	see the link in my rant from today, it shows the NSA flirtations	Feb 03 18:05
Sosumi	it is just an hdd...	Feb 03 18:07
Sosumi	unless it is one of those streaming or cloud boxes	Feb 03 18:07
Sosumi	I wouldn't be that much concerned	Feb 03 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Torvalds gives Nvidia software thumbs up, not	Feb 03 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	middle finger http://t.co/Ncc7qlD9kk	Feb 03 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk15x	Feb 03 18:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 VsFTP (Very Secure File Transfer Protocol)	Feb 03 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	Interview Questions and Answers	Feb 03 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/upcSoPa03o	Feb 03 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk161	Feb 03 18:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines February 2014 Issue of Linux Journal: Web	Feb 03 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	Development http://t.co/zna5CVt6pq	Feb 03 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk162	Feb 03 18:08
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iophk	vsFTP is a program not a protocol...	Feb 03 18:09
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Sosumi	sry I have no idea how does "my cloud" editions of WD work	Feb 03 18:21
Sosumi	and I really don't care, since I'd never buy such thing to begin with	Feb 03 18:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430382351018102784 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430382069441904640 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430381901002858496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430381583686975488	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Clang Is Now Self-Hosting On Linux/FreeBSD SPARC64 http://t.co/FMi9FVmo6d #freebsd #unix #linux #clang #sparc	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> lists.cs.uiuc.edu \| [LLVMdev] LLVM/Clang on Sparc64	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: AMD Catalyst 14.1 Beta For Linux http://t.co/t2GIPFxtEZ #amd #linux	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.gamingonlinux.com \| GamingOnLinux - AMD Catalyst 14.1 Beta For Linux	Feb 03 18:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430381304744792064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430381145403191297 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430380467331031040	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Nvidia gets even more open saucy http://t.co/T7RiWp6XAK #nvidia #linux footsteps towards openness	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.techeye.net \| Nvidia gets even more open saucy - More saucy than a Brighton postcard \| TechEye	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Developer Prepares uTorrent GTK Client for Linux, Are You Interested? http://t.co/GzymddeMeK #gtk #gnome #gnu #linux	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Developer Prepares uTorrent GTK Client for Linux, Are You Interested?	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Download Linux Kernel 3.14 Release Candidate 1 http://t.co/aywSeDXZoG #linux #kernel	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Download Linux Kernel 3.14 Release Candidate 1	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Findings from working on Red Hat's installer http://t.co/jq5IRVfM5w #redhat #gnu #linux	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> opensource.com \| A Red Hat engineer's story of working on the staller \| opensource.com	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: There's no better time for governments to go open source http://t.co/Q71iSyQ5Az in light of #uk migrations	Feb 03 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> phys.org \| There's no better time for governments to go open source	Feb 03 18:22
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430380073322287104	Feb 03 18:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Open-Source Hardware: Prepare For Disruption http://t.co/qlQwRI2XHl #openhardware	Feb 03 18:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.informationweek.com \| Open-Source Hardware: Prepare For Disruption - InformationWeek	Feb 03 18:23
Sosumi	http://slashdot.org/topic/bi/windows-8-1-update-leaks/	Feb 03 18:25
TechrightsBot-tr	slashdot.org \| Windows 8.1 Update Leaks [ http://ur1.ca/gk1a8 ]	Feb 03 18:25
Sosumi	hint to M$	Feb 03 18:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430400493907505153 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430378098916204544 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430377471620288512 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430379215267962880	Feb 03 18:25
Sosumi	just copy kde	Feb 03 18:25
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @CryptoPartyMCR My wife and I might come later this week	Feb 03 18:25
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @AskSeagate @Seagate No response yet. Tell "Kerstin" (Seagate "Support") that Monday is a working day (no response since 8:35 AM)	Feb 03 18:25
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @Seagate @AskSeagate If you get a break from trying to silence abused customers, read http://t.co/PqkUYUhlFN	Feb 03 18:25
TechrightsBot-tr	-> schestowitz.com \| schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » If You Are Not a Large-scale Privacy Violator, Then Seagate Does Not Care About You	Feb 03 18:25
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @AskSeagate @Seagate This number is not for the #uk	Feb 03 18:25
iophk	http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2326613/german-hacker-group-the-ccc-files-a-lawsuit-against-the-government	Feb 03 18:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theinquirer.net \| German hacker group the CCC files a lawsuit against the government- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/gk1af ]	Feb 03 18:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430366048265990147 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430363799497871360 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430363298597715968	Feb 03 18:27
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Today in #Techrights http://t.co/mv9CXyeEQe	Feb 03 18:27
TechrightsBot-tr	Couldn't resolve host 'www.tuxmachines.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/63116 )	Feb 03 18:27
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @Seagate @AskSeagate I sure hope so because they're not doing good job. BTW, it's Seagate Europe that got assigned to me. No response. 7hrs	Feb 03 18:27
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: NSA #Seagate : send million hard-drives to infringe people's privacy; Seagate responds. People: we lose our own data. Seagate: tumbleweed.	Feb 03 18:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430362519224348672 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430361919128866816 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430361422162579457 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430352582939119616 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430343148523364352	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @seagate I know you're PR account, but your technical folks are not responsive. Need I be a criminal like #nsa (your biz partner) for reply?	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #seagate asked to email; no reply yet. Asked to tweet them; no reply. I'm no big client of theirs like #nsa and #gchq (profiting from crime)	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: USPTO Still a Sham; Microsoft, Apple and IBM Still Part of the Problem and Google/Linux a Common Victim http://t.co/46EA7N5UNm #uspto #ibm	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| USPTO Still a Sham; Microsoft, Apple and IBM Still Part of the Problem and Google/Linux a Common Victim \| Techrights	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Amid Financial Misconduct #Microsoft Fights Against Basic Tech Rights, Obviously in Attempt to Squeeze Out More Money http://t.co/dm91OO4ImZ	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Amid Financial Misconduct Microsoft Fights Against Basic Tech Rights, Obviously in an Attempt to Squeeze Out More Money \| Techrights	Feb 03 18:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @AskSeagate you sent a faulty drive to replace a faulty drive. I wasted days on this mess. At this stage I want a refund, not another drive.	Feb 03 18:28
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/freenodestaff/status/430324543417499648 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430334307044184064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430327666768490497	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@freenodestaff: @CryptoPartyMCR just a DDOS. Some folks got a bit excited when we made DNS changes to mitigate it, and Twitter loves a rumor.	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: Microsoft: Why Stop Committing Crimes When You Can Change the Public Image/Persona? http://t.co/nRUjeFXzZG #microsoft	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Microsoft: Why Stop Committing Crimes When You Can Change the Public Image/Persona? \| Techrights	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @seagate I want full refund, not days of my life wasted trying to deal with garbage hardware, getting around bad sectors, hangups. You fail.	Feb 03 18:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430327566684000256 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430327488326033409 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430327039577825280	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @seagate I wasted ~8 hours of my time trying to get it to work. I spent days on it and it's just physically defunct.	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @seagate Drive from #seagate still a mess, one week later - This is ABSOLUTELY unacceptable. They sent me another defective drive.	Feb 03 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: What did #seagate get for TWO faulty drives (sending crap to replace crap)? It got another SALE. Why? Because people's backups go missing.	Feb 03 18:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430326893238571008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430326645514174465	Feb 03 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #segate is rubbish, faulty replaces faulty: http://t.co/c5lGYRyTU1 can't believe I bought new Seagate drive to quickly replace faulty one.	Feb 03 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> forums.seagate.com \| Seagate ships faulty ST3500630A for RMA? - Seagate Community Forums	Feb 03 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: #freenode has had its biggest issues in... well, as long as I can remember https://t.co/lAP6RM9xVV apparently #DDOS	Feb 03 18:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> twitter.com \| Twitter / Search - freenode	Feb 03 18:30
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3590335	Feb 03 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Arch Linux 2014.02.01 Is Now Available for Download http://news.softpedia.com/news/Arch-Linux-2014-02-01-Is-Now-Available-for-Download-423024.shtml #gnu #linux #archlinux	Feb 03 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Arch Linux 2014.02.01 Is Now Available for Download [ http://ur1.ca/gk1c6 ]	Feb 03 18:38
schestowitz	"Arch: It's a beautiful thing. Just upgraded today."	Feb 03 18:39
schestowitz	"I just saw Manjaro on a list of related distros - you like it? Fast/stable?"	Feb 03 18:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3588908	Feb 03 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You Can Say What You Want but GNOME Is the Best Linux Desktop, Here's Why http://news.softpedia.com/news/You-Can-Say-What-You-Want-But-GNOME-Is-the-Best-Linux-Desktop-Here-s-Why-422842.shtml #gnome #gnu #linux	Feb 03 18:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| You Can Say What You Want but GNOME Is a Great Linux Desktop, Here's Why [ http://ur1.ca/gjsi3 ]	Feb 03 18:39
schestowitz	I like MATE. Pretty great!"77"	Feb 03 18:39
schestowitz	"MATE"	Feb 03 18:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Women of OpenStack talk outreach,	Feb 03 18:48
TweetTuxMachines	education, and mentoring http://t.co/lXDQ9xyKR0	Feb 03 18:48
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk1dx	Feb 03 18:48
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-tomaw-[Global notice] Hi all. We're still investigating issues with services (ChanServ and NickServ). They're back now but missing a couple of bits of functionality namely nick enforcement and SASL dh-blowfish support. Further updates via wallops.		Feb 03 19:07
Sosumi	I really hope seagate is enjoying the negative publicity	Feb 03 19:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Content/Layout OK? http://t.co/8QnkOMwdWS	Feb 03 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk1kw	Feb 03 19:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is the x86 server ready for open source?	Feb 03 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7OM1Pmxs9o	Feb 03 19:28
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk1kx	Feb 03 19:28
iophk	http://lwn.net/Articles/583485/	Feb 03 19:38
TechrightsBot-tr	lwn.net \| OpenSSH 6.5 released [LWN.net]	Feb 03 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@TaiKedz @tuxmachines ... am I a doofus or is it not	Feb 03 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	possible to create a new user account on	Feb 03 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	TuxMachines....?	Feb 03 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk1pl	Feb 03 20:02
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iophk	http://www.ibtimes.com/monarch-butterfly-grave-danger-disappearing-migration-reaches-record-low-1552802	Feb 03 20:41
iophk	missing mention of deforestation in MX	Feb 03 20:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.com \| Monarch Butterfly In ‘Grave Danger’ Of Disappearing, Migration Reaches Record Low [ http://ur1.ca/gk1vg ]	Feb 03 20:41
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Sosumi	it seems freenode has finally returned to normal	Feb 03 20:59
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MinceR	not quite	Feb 03 21:05
MinceR	afaict there's still only adams and services	Feb 03 21:05
MinceR	the other servers are not visible from here	Feb 03 21:05
MinceR	unless they're hiding something	Feb 03 21:05
MinceR	oh, they are	Feb 03 21:05
MinceR	never mind, then	Feb 03 21:05
DaemonFC	MinceR: I went onto our governor's facebook page and joined the trolling.	Feb 03 21:08
DaemonFC	I even added those Jack Harkness sex scenes from Torchwood: Miracle Day.	Feb 03 21:08
DaemonFC	I figured it would piss off the fundies there.	Feb 03 21:08
DaemonFC	I don't know how long it will be posted, but it should get a rise out of them.	Feb 03 21:09
MinceR	:)	Feb 03 21:10
Sosumi	what's is the governor's name	Feb 03 21:20
Sosumi	?	Feb 03 21:21
Sosumi	not chris christie, right? the garden state goering	Feb 03 21:26
Sosumi	or, "christ", christie insert jesus facepalm pic	Feb 03 21:26
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3588908	Feb 03 21:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: You Can Say What You Want but GNOME Is the Best Linux Desktop, Here's Why http://news.softpedia.com/news/You-Can-Say-What-You-Want-But-GNOME-Is-the-Best-Linux-Desktop-Here-s-Why-422842.shtml #gnome #gnu #linux	Feb 03 21:34
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| You Can Say What You Want but GNOME Is a Great Linux Desktop, Here's Why [ http://ur1.ca/gjsi3 ]	Feb 03 21:34
schestowitz	"Walking around the office, I thought all Gnome has to do is be better than Windows 7, a desktop that has not yet caught up to KDE 3.x or even E16. Just about any free desktop does that."	Feb 03 21:34
schestowitz	"Yeah, us free software geeks are kinda spoiled :p"	Feb 03 21:35
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3594503	Feb 03 21:35
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "If you're an Android user like me, then you may have noticed a special gift in the most recent Facebook update"	Feb 03 21:35
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.fresnobee.com \| Rory E. H. Appleton: NSA game surveillance shows nothing is private \| Living & Entertainment \| FresnoBee.com [ http://ur1.ca/gk21e ]	Feb 03 21:35
schestowitz	"Maybe I'm not an Android user like him."	Feb 03 21:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3594704	Feb 03 21:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: WikiLeaks, Greenwald blast Guardian journalist’s book http://rt.com/news/harding-book-snowden-prisoner-588/ did the same to #assange http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/01/edward-snowden-intelligence-leak-nsa-contractor-extract	Feb 03 21:36
TechrightsBot-tr	-> rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gk21g ]	Feb 03 21:36
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| How Edward Snowden went from loyal NSA contractor to whistleblower \| World news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gk21h ]	Feb 03 21:36
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schestowitz	"	Feb 03 21:36
schestowitz	Dr. Roy Schestowitz -- genuine question -- why do you trust RT (Russia Today)? (I assume you put some value on its words since you link to it.) I'm not saying that any US/UK newspaper is perfect, but what I've heard/read about RT is that it is basically funded by the Kremlin. Reading the article you link to, for example, I find it a bit slippery, in ways that are a bit too long to explain in a first comment (but that I'd be happy to	Feb 03 21:36
schestowitz	try to explain if asked).	Feb 03 21:36
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schestowitz	None of which is a defense of Harding on this -- I don't know enough about that. I've just seen you link to RT several times and am curious.	Feb 03 21:36
schestowitz	"	Feb 03 21:36
schestowitz	Yes, as I pointed out before (many times), RT is Russian propaganda is the same way that CNN, BBC etc. are US/West propaganda. I link to both sometimes because they help in calling out each other's BS and then you can land somewhre in the middle, realising that a lot of the press is just garbage (spin) fed to common people	Feb 03 21:38
schestowitz	*somewhere	Feb 03 21:38
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3594704	Feb 03 21:47
schestowitz	"OK -- thanks. Sorry for making you say that again. I hadn't seen your previous statements of this."	Feb 03 21:47
schestowitz	Russian propaganda scared me more and northern Europe has had its share of racist propaganda, too. But in the UK what's mostly beamed to us is US propaganda, for historical reasons	Feb 03 21:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3594605	Feb 03 21:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #torture advocate #bbc is looking for #newspeak to soften the impact of #assassination (like "rendition") http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25979068	Feb 03 21:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - Drones or UAVs? The search for a more positive name [ http://ur1.ca/gk22r ]	Feb 03 21:49
schestowitz	"The industry want them to be called UAV (for Unmanned Aerial Vehicle). Mostly the press in the US already complied."	Feb 03 21:49
MinceR	UAV is more accurate	Feb 03 21:50
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schestowitz	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10606754/Open-source-push-could-save-taxpayer-millions.html	Feb 03 21:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Open source push 'could save taxpayer millions' - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gk23q ]	Feb 03 21:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First impressions of Antergos installation	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2aWY7Wj0dx	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk25c	Feb 03 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CompuLab Utilite: A Tiny, Low-Power, Low-Cost,	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	ARM Linux Desktop http://t.co/WzxHPxusLL	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk25d	Feb 03 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ARM is not about the status quo : Open source	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	breeds new architectures http://t.co/JZH9VJrGif	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk25f	Feb 03 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds and other developers are leaving	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	Bitcoins on the table http://t.co/9QAN3l0FFU	Feb 03 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk25g	Feb 03 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google releases Chromecast SDK	Feb 04 01:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pdsBR8xyYy	Feb 04 01:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk2p2	Feb 04 01:20
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*TweetTuxMachines @RanjibDey retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Google releases Chromecast SDK http://t.co/pdsBR8xyYy'		Feb 04 01:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is GNOME the best Linux desktop?	Feb 04 02:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/uB2j91JRGn	Feb 04 02:04
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk2sl	Feb 04 02:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox Set to Get a New Look, Better Sync	Feb 04 02:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Hl38uJ0l6u	Feb 04 02:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk2sm	Feb 04 02:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R2 GNOME review	Feb 04 03:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Prd8SWFHT7	Feb 04 03:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk333	Feb 04 03:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.2 Office Suite Boasts New	Feb 04 04:29
TweetTuxMachines	Features, Performance Boost	Feb 04 04:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RdUnyGEp7B	Feb 04 04:29
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk37n	Feb 04 04:29
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iophk	http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/03/democrats-introduce-open-internet-preservation-act-to-restore-net-neutrality/	Feb 04 08:41
TechrightsBot-tr	techcrunch.com \| Democrats Introduce Open Internet Preservation Act To Restore Net Neutrality \| TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gk3yd ]	Feb 04 08:41
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/windows-8-growth-falters-again-mobile-chrome-continues-to-pick-up-steam/	Feb 04 11:18
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Windows 8 growth falters again, mobile Chrome continues to pick up steam \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gk4fx ]	Feb 04 11:18
Sosumi	vista = 3.3%; 8.1 = 3.95%	Feb 04 11:18
Sosumi	and 7 still dominating	Feb 04 11:19
Sosumi	osx marketshare at 7.68%	Feb 04 11:19
Sosumi	which means, it kind of hasn't grown up at all	Feb 04 11:19
Sosumi	I remember it being at max 5% back in 2002	Feb 04 11:20
Sosumi	also nikkei just lost 4% today	Feb 04 11:33
Sosumi	with hitachi leading the fall at 14%	Feb 04 11:34
Sosumi	is hitachi getting major losses because of the fukushima accident?	Feb 04 11:35
Sosumi	noting that hitachi makes reactor parts	Feb 04 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Berlin: IT centralisation thwarts open source	Feb 04 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/olQQxLQUkB	Feb 04 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk4it	Feb 04 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cambodia Is Rapidly Freeing Itself From Wintel	Feb 04 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SgHWVd3umD	Feb 04 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk4iu	Feb 04 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung may announce Galaxy S5 at MWC	Feb 04 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3WZCXUpo54	Feb 04 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk4iw	Feb 04 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Make money and have fun in open source	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qLLhfNtTrW	Feb 04 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk4ix	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MOTA smartwatch goes on sale for $50 at Groupon	Feb 04 11:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/A3brxK8C8p	Feb 04 11:42
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk4iy	Feb 04 11:42
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schestowitz	[11:18] <TechrightsBot-tr> arstechnica.com \| Windows 8 growth falters again, mobile Chrome continues to pick up steam \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gk4fx ]	Feb 04 13:17
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Windows 8 growth falters again, mobile Chrome continues to pick up steam \| Ars Technica	Feb 04 13:17
schestowitz	Peter bright, I ain't linking that	Feb 04 13:18
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Sosumi	peter "blight"	Feb 04 13:53
Sosumi	but still, it shows vista 8.1 isn't going anywhere	Feb 04 13:54
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*Now talking on #techrights		Feb 04 14:07
*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org \| Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell		Feb 04 14:07
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Feb 04 14:07
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Sosumi	Gates and "gorilla" Ballmer left m$	Feb 04 15:30
Sosumi	Satya Nadella is the new CEO (I got that right :P )	Feb 04 15:30
Sosumi	John Thompson new chairman of the board	Feb 04 15:31
Sosumi	no idea who johny boy is	Feb 04 15:32
Sosumi	Satya was with the cloud services and we know how much bing kind of sucks	Feb 04 15:33
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Sosumi	also, given how he worked at m$ I hope he's part of the ballmer echo chamber	Feb 04 15:36
Sosumi	which means the continuation of the same mistakes of the past	Feb 04 15:36
Sosumi	and who know? if that dude was the responsible for pricing office on a license restricted just to one computer	Feb 04 15:37
Sosumi	for 530€	Feb 04 15:37
Sosumi	while proposing office "in zee cloud"	Feb 04 15:38
Sosumi	for 99€ and limited to 4 (or 6?) computers	Feb 04 15:38
Sosumi	and also at the time, kind of promising in replacing office mac with that on zee cloud version	Feb 04 15:39
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iophk	http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2326854/net-neutrality-is-thrown-a-lifeline-by-washington	Feb 04 17:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theinquirer.net \| Net Neutrality is thrown a lifeline by Washington- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/gk6mr ]	Feb 04 17:54
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satipera	@schestowitz you have been neglecting to cross post to identi.ca do you plan to do so? hello by the way	Feb 04 18:27
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schestowitz	Sosumi: was this the Symantec guy?\	Feb 04 19:26
Sosumi	john thompson?	Feb 04 19:26
Sosumi	sec	Feb 04 19:26
schestowitz	I wrote about a Thompson from MS before, I can't recall all the details, I just think that after he slammed Windows he joined MS board	Feb 04 19:26
schestowitz	He's another ethnic minority, so good way to block critics of business crime	Feb 04 19:27
schestowitz	I said MS would do that, but thought they'd go with female	Feb 04 19:27
schestowitz	So now to crititice MS leadership is to be racist and anti-'charity'	Feb 04 19:27
schestowitz	I already miss Ballmer	Feb 04 19:27
Sosumi	yes	Feb 04 19:28
Sosumi	he was with symantec in the past (CEO)	Feb 04 19:29
Sosumi	and ibm	Feb 04 19:29
schestowitz	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/10617375/Who-is-John-Thompson-Microsofts-new-chairman.html	Feb 04 19:29
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Who is John Thompson: Microsoft's new chairman? - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gk7w6 ]	Feb 04 19:29
schestowitz	yes, it's him	Feb 04 19:29
Sosumi	as vice president	Feb 04 19:29
Sosumi	and he's also into the seagate board of directors	Feb 04 19:30
Sosumi	now you know why you got 2 broken hdds from them	Feb 04 19:30
schestowitz	HA	Feb 04 19:30
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satipera	@Schestowitz sorry froze at this end are you planning to cross post to identi.ca	Feb 04 19:33
schestowitz	https://medium.com/quinn-norton/b9253a123859	Feb 04 19:33
TechrightsBot-tr	medium.com \| NSA Reform — Notes from a Strange World — Medium [ http://ur1.ca/gk7y3 ]	Feb 04 19:33
schestowitz	satipera: hey	Feb 04 19:33
schestowitz	I was going to	Feb 04 19:33
schestowitz	but evan kept making false promises about letting me export my data	Feb 04 19:33
schestowitz	and I still don't have my dents	Feb 04 19:33
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schestowitz	so I reckon, for now I'd not contribute to his site	Feb 04 19:33
satipera	@schestowitz i know you had issues, how do we get your 'dents' without going on twitter?	Feb 04 19:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3597406	Feb 04 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@linux@joindiaspora.com: Is GNOME the best Linux desktop? http://m.itworld.com/open-source/403088/gnome-best-linux-desktop	Feb 04 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	-> m.itworld.com \| Is GNOME the best Linux desktop? \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gk7yo ]	Feb 04 19:36
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3597406	Feb 04 19:36
schestowitz	"short answer: no."	Feb 04 19:36
schestowitz	> Hello.	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	>	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	> I would like to know if Tuxera replied to the allegations and what is	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	> their answer	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	> concerning HFS+ Embedded product being based on native Linux code?	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	>	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	> Thank you.	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	>	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	>	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	> Sent using Hushmail	Feb 04 19:37
schestowitz	http://mrpogson.com/2014/02/03/the-return-of-bill-gates/	Feb 04 19:45
TechrightsBot-tr	mrpogson.com \| The Return of Bill Gates \| Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gk80s ]	Feb 04 19:45
schestowitz	""	Feb 04 19:45
schestowitz	http://popcon.debian.org/stable/source/by_inst	Feb 04 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr	Missing content type. Ignoring.	Feb 04 19:47
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Sosumi	makes no sense	Feb 04 19:53
Sosumi	why would you want to use HFS+ anyway	Feb 04 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The state of Firefox OS – a report from FOSDEM	Feb 04 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vN7JmZjtnk	Feb 04 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk84z	Feb 04 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr	Couldn't resolve host 'www.tuxmachines.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/63140?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter )	Feb 04 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2013 http://t.co/rcC04OfUFX Members Choice	Feb 04 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	Award Winners http://t.co/K0tejnTJ9r	Feb 04 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk850	Feb 04 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.linuxquestions.org \| LinuxQuestions.org	Feb 04 20:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Trend To "Open Source" Software And What It	Feb 04 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	Means For Businesses And Consumers	Feb 04 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rEa7adzMst	Feb 04 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk851	Feb 04 20:06
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/430796046340333568	Feb 04 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz: @AskSeagate @Seagate You said Seagate would call me. Nobody did. Can't say I'm surprised. #seagate probably has more important clients #nsa	Feb 04 20:13
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sebsebseb	hi	Feb 04 20:23
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3598788	Feb 04 20:29
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Board member of #seagate becomes leader at #microsoft - a special ally of the #nsa just like Seagate (aiding illegal surveillance/retention)	Feb 04 20:29
schestowitz	"similar quality too..."	Feb 04 20:29
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3597300	Feb 04 20:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: MOTA smartwatch goes on sale for $50 at Groupon http://www.muktware.com/2014/02/mota-smartwatch-goes-sale-50-groupon/20449 #android based. #linux	Feb 04 20:30
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| MOTA smartwatch goes on sale for $50 at Groupon - Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gk8cn ]	Feb 04 20:30
schestowitz	"Looks like one of those ankle bracelets they make people wear when they are under house arrest."	Feb 04 20:30
schestowitz	Only this one was made hip, so people PAY to be wearing them	Feb 04 20:30
schestowitz	"@Jim: :-)"	Feb 04 20:31
schestowitz	http://www.housearrestsolution.com/solution2.aspx	Feb 04 20:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.housearrestsolution.com \| Our House Arrest Solution [ http://ur1.ca/gk8d9 ]	Feb 04 20:31
schestowitz	"Not so far from the truth."	Feb 04 20:31
schestowitz	"Note the aspx, state money usually goes to Bill Gates."	Feb 04 20:31
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3598615	Feb 04 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I already miss Ballmer, he drive the company to the ground. Now "against Microsoft" is "racism" and anti-"charity" http://techrights.org/2014/02/03/face-change/	Feb 04 20:32
schestowitz	"I wonder if the new guy will throw chairs at anyone."	Feb 04 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Microsoft: Why Stop Committing Crimes When You Can Change the Public Image/Persona? \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gk8dt ]	Feb 04 20:32
schestowitz	"I'll deeply miss "Developers, developers, developers, developers""	Feb 04 20:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AskSeagate/status/430800620086640640 https://twitter.com/AskSeagate/status/430800759631122433	Feb 04 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@AskSeagate: @schestowitz @seagate We notice that a technician from your region responded to you by email (case #03930066). We will respond shortly. If..	Feb 04 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@AskSeagate: @schestowitz you would like a call, let us know and we will make a note in your case notes.	Feb 04 20:36
schestowitz	"	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	You've got <a href="http://techrights.org/2009/12/03/microsoft-news-corp-backtracking/">Nadella in 2009 as a Google censor</a>, which is pretty gross because <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/microsofts-bing-removes-several-hundred-thousand-pirate-search-results-130808/">Microsoft is still the biggest DMCA issuer and does not censor the same links on Bing</a>. The only way to make Bing competitive, it seems, is to censor Google and	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	other sites of truth, like <a hef="http://torrentfreak.com/microsofts-bogus-dmca-notices-censor-bbc-cnn-wikipedia-spotify-and-more-121007/">BBC, Wikipedia, Washi...	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	Reply or view Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)'s post >	Feb 04 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	techrights.org \| Microsoft About Anti-Google “Bribes”: Let’s Call the Whole Thing Off \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gk8hc ]	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	"	Feb 04 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Microsoft's Bing Removes Several Hundred Thousand "Pirate" Search Results \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gk8hd ]	Feb 04 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Microsoft DMCA Notice 'Mistakenly' Targets BBC, Techcrunch, Wikipedia and U.S. Govt \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gk8he ]	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	" Washington Post, TechCrunch, etc,, even references to old versions of Microsoft software or anything else Bill Gates does not like. I'm sure there's more if we look into it, but censorship is criminal enough. One of the most frightening things about non free software is the ability to memory hole reality. That seems to be what Bing and Microsoft are all about as people finally quit paying $200 for text editors."	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	http://betanews.com/2013/10/18/microsoft-uses-dmca-to-force-betanews-and-others-to-remove-old-software-listings/	Feb 04 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	betanews.com \| Microsoft uses DMCA to force BetaNews and others to remove old software listings [ http://ur1.ca/gk8hn ]	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	"	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	Link to story of massive and blatant censorship missed above,	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	http://torrentfreak.com/microsofts-bogus-dmca-notices-censor-bbc-cnn-wikipedia-spotify-and-more-121007/	Feb 04 20:37
schestowitz	"	Feb 04 20:38
schestowitz	A lot of censorship is needed to cover up Gates' crimes. He still bribes many news sites too, to override the signal...	Feb 04 20:38
schestowitz	The same goes for Microsoft...	Feb 04 20:38
sebsebseb	schestowitz: FOSDEM was good	Feb 04 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME: Slight adjustment to the 3.12 schedule	Feb 04 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WDl7Z6BUQS	Feb 04 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk8lf	Feb 04 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Opinion: Arch Linux and Stability	Feb 04 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VICYUbavkj	Feb 04 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk8lg	Feb 04 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Copyright statements proliferate inside open	Feb 04 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	source code http://t.co/IuMjCAEGq0	Feb 04 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk8lh	Feb 04 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines freedreno/a3xx/compiler: new compiler	Feb 04 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FZIj99DF83	Feb 04 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk8lj	Feb 04 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MWC 2014: What gadgets to expect at this year’s	Feb 04 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	show http://t.co/3ubPFVIWtK	Feb 04 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk8ll	Feb 04 20:45
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3597322	Feb 04 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Berlin: IT centralisation thwarts open source https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/berlin-it-centralisation-thwarts-open-source too many moles inside to 'pull a Munich'?	Feb 04 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr	-> joinup.ec.europa.eu \| Berlin: IT centralisation thwarts open source \| Joinup [ http://ur1.ca/gk8p5 ]	Feb 04 21:00
schestowitz	"Very stupid and very sad. They want to give all of their work to people who have not been able to manage a fraction of it. They will waste more money on Microsoft/NSA licenses but it can't last much longer.""	Feb 04 21:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3598742	Feb 04 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Trend To "Open Source" Software And What It Means For Businesses And Consumers http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardfinger/2014/02/04/the-trend-to-open-source-software-and-what-it-means-for-businesses-and-consumers/ covers free operating systems	Feb 04 21:00
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.forbes.com \| The Trend To "Open Source" Software And What It Means For Businesses And Consumers - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gk8lw ]	Feb 04 21:00
schestowitz	"when we use opensource, we actually know what we are doing"	Feb 04 21:00
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2014/you-did-it	Feb 04 21:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - You did it! [ http://ur1.ca/gk8pg ]	Feb 04 21:01
schestowitz	lawyers...	Feb 04 21:01
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/02/report-ibm-gooses-its-sales-numbers-thanks-to-overseas-tax-tricks/	Feb 04 21:09
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Report: IBM gooses its sales numbers thanks to overseas tax tricks \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gk8s8 ]	Feb 04 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Master the amazing Raspberry Pi	Feb 04 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qf8iuc2nHP	Feb 04 21:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk901	Feb 04 21:24
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DaemonFC	schestowitz: I have been participating in a digital sit-in on Indiana Governor Pence's Facebook wall.	Feb 04 21:37
DaemonFC	I ended my most recent post by calling him one of the worst governors in recent Indiana history.	Feb 04 21:38
DaemonFC	and comparing him to Vladimir Putin	Feb 04 21:38
DaemonFC	http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-gay-men-beaten-on-camera-by-homophobic-russian-neo-nazis/	Feb 04 21:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.occupydemocrats.com \| Watch: Gay Men Beaten on Camera by Homophobic Russian Neo-Nazis [ http://ur1.ca/gk98v ]	Feb 04 21:39
DaemonFC	The Russian authorities are ignoring violent crimes committed against LGBT people by hate groups and other extremists.	Feb 04 21:39
DaemonFC	Laws that take away rights from LGBT people are intended to promote hatred and violence, to encourage extremists to commit crimes.	Feb 04 21:39
DaemonFC	The Indiana Marriage Discrimination Amendment is designed for the same reason. To stir up anti-LGBT extremists.	Feb 04 21:39
DaemonFC	If you look in the comments section of Governor Mike Pence's Facebook wall, you see trolls like the various "Soto" sockpuppets calling for the execution and murder of LGBT people. These are the kind of people that are on the same page as what is, in my opinion, one of the worst governors in recent Indiana history.	Feb 04 21:39
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 04 21:44
DaemonFC	http://www.theguardian.com/money/us-money-blog/2014/feb/02/retirement-savings-ira-myra-obama-wages	Feb 04 21:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| The problem with retirement savings: making enough money to save \| Money \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gk9cs ]	Feb 04 21:44
DaemonFC	The article points out that most new jobs are so lousy that people have nothing to save in such an account to begin with.	Feb 04 21:44
DaemonFC	When you work at Walmart or McDonalds for minimum wage, you don't have enough money for everything that needs to get done that week.	Feb 04 21:44
DaemonFC	McDonalds created a model budget for their employees that assumed that they worked 40 hours a week at McDonalds and included income from a second job, and then left food and then ended up leaving food and heating out of the budget to get it to balance out.	Feb 04 21:44
DaemonFC	oops	Feb 04 21:45
*DaemonFC fixes that		Feb 04 21:45
DaemonFC	McDonalds created a model budget for their employees that assumed that they worked 40 hours a week at McDonalds and included income from a second job, and then ended up leaving food and heating out of the budget to get it to balance out.	Feb 04 21:45
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 04 21:49
DaemonFC	I don't think we'll be hearing from Mitt Romney again. Neither party seems to ever run a proven loser twice.	Feb 04 21:49
DaemonFC	People already know so much about Romney that the damage is done. Nobody identifies much with a corporate raider and pension thief that has mansions and car elevators in almost every state, while most people are just trying to hold on to what they have.	Feb 04 21:49
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 04 21:52
DaemonFC	In fact, the best answer I got for why the Republicans rammed Romney through to get the 2012 nomination is because they figured they didn't have a better than average shot anyway, and it was their change to give him his turn and get rid of him.	Feb 04 21:52
DaemonFC	And thanks to the Presidential transition law that was enacted a few years ago, the federal government had to spend over $60 million of federal taxpayer money preparing that arsehole's transition team and help them measure the White House drapes.	Feb 04 21:52
DaemonFC	I noticed that Amazon deletes your post if you say asshole.	Feb 04 21:53
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DaemonFC	But they don't delete it if you say arsehole.	Feb 04 21:53
MinceR	:>	Feb 04 21:54
MinceR	you could also try writing 'asshole' with a cyrillic 'o'	Feb 04 21:55
MinceR	then again, maybe they take issue with 'ass'	Feb 04 21:55
MinceR	there's probably an equivalent character for one of those :)	Feb 04 21:55
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 04 21:57
DaemonFC	The best thing that can be done is to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour and index it to inflation so that they do have something to put into their own retirement plan or use the extra money for college.	Feb 04 21:57
DaemonFC	The jobs we are seeing these days aren't good for much of anything except to slow down the process of drowning in debt and to prolong the agony of it.	Feb 04 21:57
DaemonFC	If they put away $1 an hour, it would be better than saving nothing. They're going to need it since Congress is obviously not planning to patch Social Security.	Feb 04 21:57
DaemonFC	I've been posting anti-Pence stuff right on the Governor's wall.	Feb 04 22:00
DaemonFC	Hopefully, we can embarrass, discredit, and humiliate him enough to peel away some voters.	Feb 04 22:01
DaemonFC	Out of about 3 million votes, he only won by about 70,000 in 2012.	Feb 04 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Day the Light Came On for Eddie…	Feb 04 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2ZiEaUFGql	Feb 04 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk9na	Feb 04 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Firefox 27 Delivers Better Security,	Feb 04 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	Performance http://t.co/8Z7aZSB3lc	Feb 04 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk9nc	Feb 04 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New year, new resolutions and a new Mageia –	Feb 04 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	here’s Mageia 4! http://t.co/eeDd9Qfhwz	Feb 04 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk9ne	Feb 04 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Girls and Software http://t.co/eJrf7vCej2	Feb 04 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gk9nf	Feb 04 22:02
DaemonFC	MinceR: What's that letter you guys have that looks exactly like a C?	Feb 04 22:07
DaemonFC	I remember playing with that when you suggested it.	Feb 04 22:07
DaemonFC	I posted stuff like "FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK!" to see what would happen.	Feb 04 22:07
DaemonFC	They let it post, but deleted it manually after several hours and added it to their list.	Feb 04 22:07
MinceR	not sure what "you guys" is, but there is a cyrillic letter that looks exactly like a c :>	Feb 04 22:08
DaemonFC	hmmm	Feb 04 22:08
DaemonFC	MinceR: I should run for governor.	Feb 04 22:09
DaemonFC	I don't have any money though.	Feb 04 22:09
DaemonFC	They'll vote to give the tool a second term because the tool has money.	Feb 04 22:09
DaemonFC	B-)	Feb 04 22:09
MinceR	business as usual	Feb 04 22:09
DaemonFC	I'd make an excellent governor compared to Pence.	Feb 04 22:10
DaemonFC	The for profit Christian schools voucher program would be shut down.	Feb 04 22:10
DaemonFC	I could do that with an executive order, because the legislature authorized the funding, but left implementation up to the governor.	Feb 04 22:10
DaemonFC	I'd write an executive order stating that the number of vouchers would be reduced to ZERO and that the money authorized by the General Assembly is to be returned to the state treasury to be used for deficit reduction.	Feb 04 22:12
DaemonFC	:)	Feb 04 22:12
DaemonFC	The state is running a deficit even though it's taking in more money than it spends.	Feb 04 22:13
DaemonFC	They're getting bank loans while we have $2 billion in a "rainy day fund".	Feb 04 22:13
DaemonFC	I'd empty out most of that account to extinguish our state debt.	Feb 04 22:13
DaemonFC	Then I'd ask the General Assembly to vote to create a State Bank of Indiana, modeled after the one in North Dakota	Feb 04 22:14
DaemonFC	All state revenue would be deposited at the state-owned bank.	Feb 04 22:14
DaemonFC	It wouldn't be difficult. The overhead would be minimal.	Feb 04 22:14
MinceR	:)	Feb 04 22:14
DaemonFC	All it has to do is exist on paper and have accounts at the federal reserve.	Feb 04 22:14
DaemonFC	Then we can shove state revenue into the new state bank and have the state bank deposit it at an account at the fed.	Feb 04 22:15
DaemonFC	Then instead of paying money to store state funds, we'd be earning money on it.	Feb 04 22:15
DaemonFC	I'd write an executive order declaring that the Indiana State Police and Department of Natural Resource Conservation Officers are not to use civil asset forfeiture.	Feb 04 22:16
DaemonFC	If you get caught fishing without a license, they can take your car, boat, fishing equipment, and anything else you have with you.	Feb 04 22:17
DaemonFC	And then they can fine you up to $5,000.	Feb 04 22:17
DaemonFC	I'd change it to where they are limited to the fine.	Feb 04 22:17
schestowitz	[22:09] <DaemonFC> MinceR: I should run for governor.	Feb 04 22:17
schestowitz	I saw something about Ventura talking about Preseidency	Feb 04 22:17
DaemonFC	Jesse Ventura? Well, he did become the governor of Minnesota for a while.	Feb 04 22:18
DaemonFC	He beat the Republican and Democrat.	Feb 04 22:18
schestowitz	He can't make it in the US, the system is too corrupt for it, he's no Reagan... but he did make it into Senator, like Terminator	Feb 04 22:18
DaemonFC	Then the Republicans and Democrats in the state legislature started overriding all of his vetoes.	Feb 04 22:18
DaemonFC	Doing anything else they could to fuck with him.	Feb 04 22:18
schestowitz	Did it step down from Governor on his own because they wouldn't let him effectively work?	Feb 04 22:18
schestowitz	He's like a dissident nacy seal	Feb 04 22:19
schestowitz	navy	Feb 04 22:20
DaemonFC	He didn't seek a second term.	Feb 04 22:20
MinceR	:D	Feb 04 22:20
MinceR	funny typo there	Feb 04 22:20
DaemonFC	He couldn't do much because they were blocking him and working together to override his vetoes.	Feb 04 22:20
DaemonFC	MinceR: I started trolling my state senator too.	Feb 04 22:23
DaemonFC	He posted that he just introduced some bills, so I posted a link to alec exposed	Feb 04 22:24
DaemonFC	and asked how much money from ALEC was his his mattress, freezer, etc.	Feb 04 22:24
MinceR	:>	Feb 04 22:24
DaemonFC	He posted pictures of a bunch of dead turkeys next to a shotgun	Feb 04 22:24
DaemonFC	I called him a big turkey and asked him why he was shooting all the other turkeys.	Feb 04 22:25
DaemonFC	He posted a comic about gun control.	Feb 04 22:25
DaemonFC	I posted an article about a man pointing a gun at a girl scout that was trying to sell him cookies	Feb 04 22:25
DaemonFC	Jim Banks shared The Wall Street Journal's status.	Feb 04 22:26
DaemonFC	January 5	Feb 04 22:26
DaemonFC	The countries where people live the longest, according to OECD data: http://on.wsj.com/1ezEMyH	Feb 04 22:26
TechrightsBot-tr	live.wsj.com \| Video - Five Countries Where People Live Longest - WSJ.com	Feb 04 22:26
DaemonFC	1. Switzerland	Feb 04 22:26
DaemonFC	2. Italy	Feb 04 22:26
DaemonFC	3. Japan	Feb 04 22:26
DaemonFC	4. Iceland	Feb 04 22:26
DaemonFC	5. Spain	Feb 04 22:26
DaemonFC	The U.S. ranked 26th on the list of 34 OECD countries, with a life expectancy of 78.7 years.	Feb 04 22:26
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer In Iceland, banks were allowed to fail, the people were bailed out, and the Prime Minister was indicted. Still waiting on that to happen in America. Bush is still a free man, millions of people lost their homes, and the banks were bailed out.	Feb 04 22:27
DaemonFC	5 hours ago · Edited · Like	Feb 04 22:27
MinceR	:)	Feb 04 22:27
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DaemonFC	Governor Pence,	Feb 04 22:36
DaemonFC	As an Indiana resident and voter, I call on you to ask the Indiana General Assembly to introduce and pass the Fourth Amendment Protection Act, as the legislatures in the states of Utah, Washington, Arizona, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma and California are considering, or have passed.	Feb 04 22:36
DaemonFC	The Fourth Amendment Protection Act does three basic things:	Feb 04 22:36
DaemonFC	1. It states that no state agency or resources are to be used to comply with the United States National Security Agency when they are attempting to collect data on state residents without a valid warrant issued by a court of law, and makes it a criminal offense to cooperate with them if they do not present a valid warrant.	Feb 04 22:36
DaemonFC	2. It states that no utility companies operating within the state are allowed to provide service to any NSA building or data center within the state.	Feb 04 22:36
DaemonFC	3. It forbids any public universities within the state from cooperating with NSA research or allowing NSA recruiters onto the campus.	Feb 04 22:36
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_Protection_Act	Feb 04 22:36
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Fourth Amendment Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gka4b ]	Feb 04 22:36
DaemonFC	Governor Pence,	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	As an Indiana resident and voter, I call on you to drop the state's challenge to the United States Environmental Protection Agency's new regulations on mercury emissions from coal fired power plants.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	http://www.epa.gov/mats/	Feb 04 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.epa.gov \| Mercury and Air Toxics Standards \| US Environmental Protection Agency	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	Last year, Indiana's coal plants released 46,000 pounds of mercury into the atmosphere and water.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	Mercury is a highly toxic substance to humans and other living things.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_poisoning	Feb 04 22:37
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Mercury poisoning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gka4j ]	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-gay-men-beaten-on-camera-by-homophobic-russian-neo-nazis/	Feb 04 22:37
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DaemonFC	The Russian authorities are ignoring violent crimes committed against LGBT people by hate groups and other extremists.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	Laws that take away rights from LGBT people are intended to promote hatred and violence, to encourage extremists to commit crimes.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	The Indiana Marriage Discrimination Amendment is designed for the same reason. To stir up anti-LGBT extremists.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	If you look in the comments section of Governor Mike Pence's Facebook wall, you see trolls like the various "Soto" sockpuppets calling for the execution and murder of LGBT people. These are the kind of people that are on the same page as what is, in my opinion, one of the worst governors in recent Indiana history.	Feb 04 22:37
DaemonFC	http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/bill-nye-creationism-evolution	Feb 04 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.motherjones.com \| This Picture Has Creationists Terrified \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/gka4t ]	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	This evening, Bill Nye the Science Guy will debate creationist leader Ken Ham at the Creation Museum in Kentucky. Tickets sold out in two minutes.	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	Governor Pence, please stop the Indiana privatized school program vouchers. You are robbing children of a fact-based education. The material that these schools pass out teach kids that the Loch Ness Monster is real and disproves evolution.	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	It also does several other disgusting things, such as emphasizing rote memorization instead of critical thinking. The material is also very sexist.	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	If you believe that evolution isn't a fact, then please stop letting your doctor treat you with modern antibiotics, since Penicillin should still cure everything.	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	Please give kids a 21st century education and shut down the charter school fraud.	Feb 04 22:38
DaemonFC	http://www.alternet.org/education/shocking-lessons-christian-educational-cartoons	Feb 04 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.alternet.org \| Life According to the Christian Education Curriculum, in Cartoons! \| Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gka4w ]	Feb 04 22:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux users still obstructed from Parliamentary	Feb 04 23:19
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DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI	Feb 05 00:06
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DaemonFC	http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2014/02/02/unconfirmed-big-cat-sightings-continue-around-indiana/5166349/	Feb 05 00:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.indystar.com \| Unconfirmed big cat sightings continue around Indiana [ http://ur1.ca/gkavv ]	Feb 05 00:08
DaemonFC	I have a big cat.	Feb 05 00:08
DaemonFC	He's been here the whole time, though.	Feb 05 00:08
DaemonFC	Governor Mike Pence	Feb 05 00:13
DaemonFC	This evening, Governor Mike Pence received a briefing from Indiana Department of Homeland Security Executive Director John Hill on the weather conditions across Indiana.	Feb 05 00:13
DaemonFC	As the winter storm continues to roll in, Hoosiers are encouraged to keep an eye on their county's travel status here: http://www.in.gov/dhs/traveladvisory/ and the road conditions in their area by visiting http://indot.carsprogram.org/main.jsf.	Feb 05 00:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www.in.gov \| DHS: County Travel Status	Feb 05 00:13
TechrightsBot-tr	indot.carsprogram.org \| Indiana Traveler Information	Feb 05 00:13
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Thank you for telling us what to do in a snowstorm. I knew we had a governor for a reason. We wouldn't know what to do without you. If you have any other suggestions for how your peasants should peasant, feel free to tell us. ;)	Feb 05 00:13
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Oh, and is there any word on the propane shortage other than telling people to quit cooking and set the temperature to 50 degrees?	Feb 05 00:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Will Amazon destroy the Apple TV with an	Feb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	Android console? http://t.co/Jf8rulH0rG	Feb 05 00:35
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DaemonFC	Upgrading to KDE 4.12.2.	Feb 05 00:39
DaemonFC	The KDE 4.x series is really slowing down.	Feb 05 00:39
DaemonFC	There's only about 20 bug fixes this month.	Feb 05 00:39
DaemonFC	Development is slowing down, I meant.	Feb 05 00:39
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schestowitz	Yeah, I heard so	Feb 05 01:13
schestowitz	not just development	Feb 05 01:13
schestowitz	maybe it reached maturity	Feb 05 01:13
schestowitz	"Peak KDE"	Feb 05 01:13
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3599352	Feb 05 01:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux users still obstructed from Parliamentary debates http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/public-sector/2014/02/linux-users-still-obstructed-f.html #gnu #linux #uk	Feb 05 01:14
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schestowitz	"Not just a UK problem. I've had similar issues with Canada's parliamentary telecasts. Australia can also be problematic."	Feb 05 01:14
schestowitz	"Olympics still on Silverlight? Barf.'	Feb 05 01:15
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3598677	Feb 05 01:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #libreoffice downloaded a lot in #Debian (1399837), but #Mono at #3 sure remains #disturbing http://popcon.debian.org/stable/source/by_inst	Feb 05 01:15
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schestowitz	"Huh. Wonder if I have any packages installed with a mono dependency."	Feb 05 01:15
schestowitz	Last time I installed debian mono was already on there, maybe with the DE	Feb 05 01:15
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Feb 05 01:53
DaemonFC	http://leavingfundamentalism.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/no-more-nessie-for-accelerated-christian-education/	Feb 05 01:53
DaemonFC	The company that makes the "educational" material to be used in Indiana profitized D and F-rated charter schools that are funded by the Republican voucher program has apparently killed off Nessie in the face of public criticism. The rest of their unscientific crap remains. Do you want to prepare your children to go to college and get a good paying 21st century job, or do you want Governor Pence making your children the next generation of gas	Feb 05 01:53
DaemonFC	station attendants?	Feb 05 01:53
TechrightsBot-tr	leavingfundamentalism.wordpress.com \| No more Nessie for Accelerated Christian Education \| Leaving Fundamentalism [ http://ur1.ca/gkbip ]	Feb 05 01:53
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Bill Hicks (impersonating a Creationist): "God put dinosaur fossils here to test our faith!" … Bill Hicks (as himself): I think God put you here to test my faith, dude. Does that bother anybody else, the idea that God might be ****ing with our heads? I have trouble sleeping with that knowledge. Some prankster God runnin' around, [pantomimes digging] "We'll see who believes in me now. I am the Prankster God – I am killing me!"	Feb 05 02:00
DaemonFC	Like · Reply · a few seconds ago	Feb 05 02:00
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer "You know, the world's twelve thousand years old and dinosaurs existed, and existed in that time, you'd think it would been mentioned in the ****ing Bible at some point:	Feb 05 02:06
DaemonFC	And O, Jesus and the disciples walked to Nazareth. But the trail was blocked by a giant brontosaurus... with a splinter in its paw. And the disciples did run a-screamin'. "What a big ****ing lizard, Lord!"	Feb 05 02:06
DaemonFC	"I'm sure gonna mention this in my book," Luke said.	Feb 05 02:06
DaemonFC	"Well, I'm sure gonna mention it in my book," Matthew said.	Feb 05 02:06
DaemonFC	But Jesus was unafraid. And he took the splinter from the brontosaurus paw, and the brontosaurus became his friend. And Jesus sent him to Scotland where he lived in a loch." -Bill Hicks	Feb 05 02:06
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DaemonFC	From Amazon (talking about the Bill Nye debate there):	Feb 05 02:53
DaemonFC	I'm an agnostic. I'm an agnostic that leans very far towards atheism because there has been no scientific evidence presented to me that there is a higher being.	Feb 05 02:53
DaemonFC	I'm willing to say that I don't know with 100% certainty whether there's a higher being, but when people can prove what they're saying, it really helps the process along, and the Creationists haven't proven anything. Especially not about their claims of creation. Their argument on the origin and age of the Earth always goes back to a religious creation myth, such as Genesis, which science proves is impossible. It's impossible that the Earth was	Feb 05 02:53
DaemonFC	created in 7 days, humans in 1 day, and that it's 5,000 years old. It will be impossible to argue that that is true no matter how many times you shout it at someone, because the science proves it wrong.	Feb 05 02:53
DaemonFC	As to religion, I have no religion. None of them have proven that they have any merit. None have proven that they're better than the next.	Feb 05 02:53
DaemonFC	All you can do with religion is ignore it or buy a ticket to the lottery. People have worshiped more things than I can comfortably count, including the Sun. So, you're buying a lottery ticket and saying you hope yours is right and the other several hundred are wrong.	Feb 05 02:53
DaemonFC	And when you ask people why they're a Christian, it always goes back to "Well, my parents are, my friends are, most of the people around me are.".	Feb 05 02:53
DaemonFC	Yeah, and if you go to India and ask why there's so many Hindus there, it's the same reason. If you go to Iran and ask why there's so many Muslims, same reason. If you go to Mexico and ask why most people are Catholic Christians. Well, that all goes back to the Conquistadores, but today it's the same reason.	Feb 05 02:53
DaemonFC	Religion is more like a contagion. It spreads because there's so many hosts that are around it who teach it to their children or threaten people and forcibly convert them, or because there's a climate of discrimination against people who don't claim to believe it. At least the Abrahamic ones like to spread through violence and coercion... And I don't think that any of this is a particularly good reason to buy into anything.	Feb 05 02:53
DaemonFC	VRWC says:	Feb 05 02:56
DaemonFC	What makes you think that 7 Earth days equals 7 days for God?	Feb 05 02:56
DaemonFC	The length of a human day is determined by the time it takes our planet to revolve once on its axis.... What relevance would that unit of time have to the creator of the universe?	Feb 05 02:56
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 02:56
DaemonFC	We're talking biblical literalism here. That just falls apart completely, right off the bat.	Feb 05 02:56
DaemonFC	But, sure, you can make excuses, and say that it's all figurative, and throw out and ignore the parts you don't like, and you can scream at others. It doesn't prove anything except that you're a complete arsehole. (Amazon doesn't seem to mind that word.)	Feb 05 02:56
DaemonFC	I'd say that the bible lost a tire back there, but it didn't exactly start out with any....	Feb 05 02:57
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	So, then we get to my second favorite part of the bible, because, well....What the hell?	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	The flood myth.	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	God makes it rain for 40 days and nights and floods the entire world. First of all, where did all the water go when the flood receded? If the whole world flooded, then there's nowhere for it to go. Plus, the water had to go through the water cycle, meaning it was already here to begin with. If that was the case, the entire world would have been flooded already.	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	But, we'll set that aside and assume that God created all the excess water just for the flood and then beamed it all back up when he was finished killing all those helpless people, many of which probably did nothing particularly wrong, except one family for whatever reason.	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	So, this family, right? This family of seven people builds a GIGANTIC ship, enough for two of every animal in the world, except for the dinosaurs because they hit the snooze button too many times that morning, and then they set out. When the flood stops, they all enter into incestuous relationships and...damn that doesn't work, there'd be birth defects. And even if the first generation wasn't related, there's nowhere near enough genetic diversity	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	to repopulate the planet, so everything dies out anyway.	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	Of course, there's other reasons why the biblical flood myth is impossible, but those are just the most obvious ones that come to mind, and a child could figure most of that out.	Feb 05 03:05
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 03:17
DaemonFC	Are you kidding? Monica Lewinsky happened 16 years ago. We're going to hear about Benghazi in the year 2030 from these ****tards.	Feb 05 03:17
DaemonFC	But if you mention Bush, which only happened 5 years ago.... "That's ancient history. He's long gone!!!!".	Feb 05 03:17
DaemonFC	Tony Bruno says:	Feb 05 03:17
DaemonFC	Clinton was only screwing interns. Republicans are screwing a whole nation.	Feb 05 03:17
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 03:18
DaemonFC	I hope he at least had a great orgasm. You want to talk about expensive prostitutes? Holy ****!	Feb 05 03:18
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Maybe when the bloviating dictator quits trying to latch on to Martin Luther King and Coretta Scott King (a gay rights activist!!!!!) to try to borrow credibility....	Feb 05 03:31
DaemonFC	B-)	Feb 05 03:31
DaemonFC	Governor Pence, is it too much to ask that you quit doing sickening things like trying to latch on to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King (a gay rights activist!!!!!) to try to borrow credibility.... Thanks.	Feb 05 03:34
DaemonFC	Like · · about a minute ago	Feb 05 03:34
DaemonFC	VRWC says:	Feb 05 03:38
DaemonFC	So God the Creator of the universe has to define his day by 24 Earth hours?	Feb 05 03:38
DaemonFC	Why would that be?	Feb 05 03:38
DaemonFC	(And I'm at a loss to understand why you would respond to my perfectly civil post by being such a profane jerk.... )	Feb 05 03:38
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 03:39
DaemonFC	"I'm going to create a 24 hour day/night cycle on their planet and then tell them about days that really aren't 24 hour days in a book meant for humans on Earth because I am a prankster god. I slay me! Hahahahaa!"	Feb 05 03:39
DaemonFC	Libertarian! Socialist! Patriot! Fryfan! says:	Feb 05 03:43
DaemonFC	Ken ham insists dinosaurs and humans coexisted.	Feb 05 03:43
DaemonFC	Nonsense.	Feb 05 03:43
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 03:43
DaemonFC	Flintstones! Meet the Flintstones! They're the modern stone age family!	Feb 05 03:43
DaemonFC	Hey, would you like a Winston cigarette?	Feb 05 03:43
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 04:50
DaemonFC	I remember a science fiction movie I watched about 20 years ago, where the Earth was seeded by an advanced alien race with a taste for humans. They seeded a bunch of planets to create us, and came back to eat us when we had overpopulated the planet and created billions of humans for them to chow down on.	Feb 05 04:50
DaemonFC	:)	Feb 05 04:50
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DaemonFC	I think if there were aliens that liked to farm and eat humans, they'd have to have some redundancy in the system, to account for the fact that half of the planets full of humans probably got blown up over stupid arguments about whose invisible man in the sky was better, or silly arguments about which economic system to use.	Feb 05 04:56
DaemonFC	I get baited into some strange topics	Feb 05 04:56
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DaemonFC	Christopher Gwyn says:	Feb 05 04:56
DaemonFC	I saw a movie where 2 Japanese boys were kidnapped by alien women from Planet X who wanted to suck their brains to absorb their knowledge. It's a good thing that Gamera the giant flying turtle was there to save them. A real classic.	Feb 05 04:56
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 04:56
DaemonFC	All hail the flying giant turtle. Kill the unbelievers!	Feb 05 04:56
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DaemonFC	Fox News was even originally reporting that Mark Foley (the Republican Congressmen that probably had sex with underage teenagers) was a Democrat.	Feb 05 04:57
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DaemonFC	I am sooo confused - should I turn the page or bend him over?	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	LMAO!!!!	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	You know you're in the car with a Republican congressman when you're a 15 year old boy and he asks how late can you be home without your parents getting worried.	Feb 05 04:57
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 05:03
DaemonFC	"And yet...here was a sitting President"	Feb 05 05:03
DaemonFC	How do you know he wasn't standing? Giggidy!	Feb 05 05:03
DaemonFC	(Although it is easier to concentrate when you're sitting.)	Feb 05 05:03
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 05 05:30
DaemonFC	Oh, and also, I cannot fathom how there are ANY gay Republicans.	Feb 05 05:30
DaemonFC	Here's what I have to say to gay Republicans...	Feb 05 05:30
DaemonFC	"Gay Republican? Are you **ing ing me? Have you ing turned on the god ed television lately? You **!"	Feb 05 05:30
DaemonFC	Crystal clear?	Feb 05 05:30
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DaemonFC	The banks are just letting all the houses that they cheated people out of either rot, and letting the taxpayers pay to tear them down, or are renting them out and turning the rental contracts into "securities". In other words "Oh ****. Here we go again.". Iceland let the banks fail, put the financial manipulators in prison, indicted the Prime Minister, and bailed out the home owners. In America, Bush is a free man, nobody on Fraud Street was	Feb 05 06:47
DaemonFC	charged with a criminal act, the homeowners were screwed, and the housing bubble is being reinflated as the rental bubble.	Feb 05 06:47
gde33	How hard would it be to make this patent and copyright system where PERSONS can own things and CORPORATIONS can pay for them?	Feb 05 06:47
gde33	If a corporation creates something they can put the names of the employees on it.	Feb 05 06:48
DaemonFC	The Tea Party Trash did say they wanted less government. I guess they shouldn't complain when there isn't one out there salting the roads.	Feb 05 06:48
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer I actually had a cop tell me once that he wished they'd get rid of alcohol and make marijuana legal. He said that he never once saw a person driving 90 miles an hour while stoned.	Feb 05 07:00
DaemonFC	Cheryl Soto Whatever officer told you that, he SHOULD be fired	Feb 05 07:00
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer And you should take your cats with you the next time you go vote. Between them and the voices in your head, you should be good for about 500 ballots, which isn't bad for one trailer, really.	Feb 05 07:01
iophk	nasty spin, rather misses the point:	Feb 05 07:30
iophk	http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303519404579354801141804482	Feb 05 07:30
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schestowitz	Hope at last:	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	> Dear Mr. Schestowitz,	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	>	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	> Thank you for contacting Seagate Technical Support.	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	>	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	> I believe only the adapter on the drive is defective, but we will	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	> collect the entire drive and send you a one time courtesy new build	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	> replacement. All our drives are re-certified,	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	> but I am making a one time exception in your case.	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	>	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	> Attached is the Order Confirmation for your RMA 2101980234 I created for	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	> you.	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	>	Feb 05 09:25
schestowitz	> Please wrap the drive securely (box and shock absorbent material) .	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	>	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	> Once UPS receives my request for the pick up they will create a shipping	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	> label. You will receive an email from UPS with the Shipping Label and	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	> further Instructions later this evening. Please print the label and	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	> attache it to your package. Once the Shipping Label is attached please	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	> contact UPS for a pick up time of your convenience or take the package	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	> to a UPS Store in your Area.	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	>	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	> For additional assistance, feel free to contact us at:	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	> http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/about/contact-us/technical-support/	Feb 05 09:26
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schestowitz	>	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	>	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	> Regards,	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	>	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	> Kerstin	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	> Seagate Support	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	Hi Kerstin,	Feb 05 09:26
schestowitz	Thanks. I will package the drive and wait for UPS to contact me.	Feb 05 09:26
iophk	No refund yet?	Feb 05 09:30
schestowitz	Nope	Feb 05 09:30
schestowitz	But they collect at the own expense and ship a NEW one	Feb 05 09:30
schestowitz	not refurbished	Feb 05 09:30
iophk	How long is the warranty on the new one?	Feb 05 09:30
iophk	It might not be worth it to try another Seagate	Feb 05 09:31
schestowitz	They didn't say	Feb 05 09:31
schestowitz	But I imagine 2 years	Feb 05 09:31
schestowitz	I already bought a new replacement at my own expense	Feb 05 09:31
schestowitz	to try to salvage 4 TB of data	Feb 05 09:31
iophk	I would set up RAID 1 if possible, if you have two drives now.	Feb 05 09:32
schestowitz	yes, Now I can	Feb 05 09:33
schestowitz	but I would need some kind of controller, and it's attached to a laptop, so lots of wiring	Feb 05 09:34
schestowitz	I can copy across manually every now and then	Feb 05 09:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3598868	Feb 05 09:44
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schestowitz	"I was hoping they would choose Elop as new CEO, but it seems they're not so stupid after all."	Feb 05 09:44
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iophk	rsync does a good job, too, if RAID is not convenient.	Feb 05 09:46
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schestowitz	iophk: can't connect hdd to hdd	Feb 05 09:47
schestowitz	it has to go through a PC	Feb 05 09:47
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iophk	They can be mounted inside the same PC and then rsynced between the directories	Feb 05 09:48
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iophk	"Thompson, a ... former CEO of Symantec"	Feb 05 10:11
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schestowitz	iophk: yes, and other things too...	Feb 05 10:24
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3600774	Feb 05 10:25
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Sosumi	schestowitz, http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/putting-hard-drive-reliability-to-the-test-shows-not-all-disks-are-equal/	Feb 05 11:58
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Sosumi	hitch wins in reliability, but they sold their business,	Feb 05 11:58
Sosumi	WD follows	Feb 05 11:58
Sosumi	and yours truly, seagate, has an abysmal failure rate	Feb 05 11:59
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iophk	old - http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1999-04-16/	Feb 05 12:31
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amarsh04	@schestowitz, I have had some grief with a Seagate SATA drive ST3500418AS due to SATA cables working loose in transport (with the problem sometimes being cheap and nasty SATA cables). Meanwhile an IBM SCSI drive from 1998 is still running in this machine: IBM DCAS-34330W S65A	Feb 05 14:50
Sosumi	seagate, "the only sea you'll be seeing is trouble"	Feb 05 14:56
Sosumi	but seagate kind of always had bad reputation	Feb 05 14:58
Sosumi	meanwhile I still have older machines that at time I got them were already in second hand	Feb 05 14:59
Sosumi	like for example a 486dx pc I have	Feb 05 14:59
Sosumi	still works perfectly, I think (or it did at the time I last powered it on, two years ago),	Feb 05 15:00
Sosumi	and has a samsung hadd	Feb 05 15:00
Sosumi	*hdd	Feb 05 15:00
Sosumi	that was like one of the first pcs I've ever had	Feb 05 15:01
Sosumi	and still remember it perfectly	Feb 05 15:02
Sosumi	the first computer I had that came with a color screen	Feb 05 15:02
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gde33	Sosumi: go get it from the celler and build it back up again? get some old router for 10 bucks.	Feb 05 15:57
Sosumi	it is not in the cellar,	Feb 05 15:57
Sosumi	it is stored in bedroom back at home alongside some other relics	Feb 05 15:59
Sosumi	:)	Feb 05 15:59
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gde33	activate !	Feb 05 16:07
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sebsebseb	hi	Feb 05 18:12
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iophk	sebsebseb: how was FOSDEM ?	Feb 05 18:31
sebsebseb	iophk: rather good	Feb 05 18:31
sebsebseb	iophk: didn't go to any talks though	Feb 05 18:31
sebsebseb	since....	Feb 05 18:31
iophk	hallway track?	Feb 05 18:31
sebsebseb	what do you mean hallway trackc ?	Feb 05 18:32
iophk	talking in the hallway between talks	Feb 05 18:32
sebsebseb	iophk: well helping out mainly at our stand yeah	Feb 05 18:32
sebsebseb	since	Feb 05 18:32
sebsebseb	well some people had to burn discs etc, that's two computers	Feb 05 18:33
sebsebseb	then only reay one other showng to public	Feb 05 18:33
sebsebseb	needed something to show GNOME to	Feb 05 18:33
sebsebseb	and then I took my netbook out and started chatting to people, some project info etc, and demo's of the welcome screen stuff and control centre and such	Feb 05 18:33
sebsebseb	and	Feb 05 18:33
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sebsebseb	most of the time I did this 99% or of the time, yep they took a disc	Feb 05 18:34
sebsebseb	and he's gone	Feb 05 18:34
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sebsebseb	oh your back	Feb 05 18:34
iophk	yep	Feb 05 18:34
sebsebseb	lost you there for a bit, what was last message you got from me?	Feb 05 18:34
iophk	since ...	Feb 05 18:34
sebsebseb	oh quite a lot since then, well I'll do a schestowitz and just copy in a load of stuff then :D	Feb 05 18:34
sebsebseb	not use pastebin you know, get it in the logs direclty etc heh heh	Feb 05 18:35
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/satya-nadella-brings-technical-skill-and-enterprise-strength-but-whats-the-consumer-story/	Feb 05 18:35
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Satya Nadella brings technical skill and enterprise strength, but what’s the consumer story? \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gkicx ]	Feb 05 18:35
Sosumi	article by peter "blight"	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	[18:31] <iophk> sebsebseb: how was FOSDEM ?	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	[18:31] <sebsebseb> iophk: rather good	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	[18:31] <sebsebseb> iophk: didn't go to any talks though	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	[18:31] <sebsebseb> since....	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	[18:31] <iophk> hallway track?	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	[18:32] <sebsebseb> what do you mean hallway trackc ?	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	[18:32] <iophk> talking in the hallway between talks	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	[18:32] <sebsebseb> iophk: well helping out mainly at our stand yeah	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	[18:32] <sebsebseb> since	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	[18:33] <sebsebseb> well some people had to burn discs etc, that's two computers	Feb 05 18:35
sebsebseb	[18:33] <sebsebseb> then only reay one other showng to public	Feb 05 18:36
Sosumi	sums up that Nadella is part of the Ballmer echo chamber	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:33] <sebsebseb> needed something to show GNOME to	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:33] <sebsebseb> and then I took my netbook out and started chatting to people, some project info etc, and demo's of the welcome screen stuff and control centre and such	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:33] <sebsebseb> and	Feb 05 18:36
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sebsebseb	[18:34] <sebsebseb> most of the time I did this 99% or of the time, yep they took a disc	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:34] <sebsebseb> and he's gone	Feb 05 18:36
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sebsebseb	[18:34] <sebsebseb> oh your back	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:34] <iophk> yep	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:34] <sebsebseb> lost you there for a bit, what was last message you got from me?	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:34] <iophk> since ...	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:34] <sebsebseb> oh quite a lot since then, well I'll do a schestowitz and just copy in a load of stuff then :D	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	[18:35] <sebsebseb> not use pastebin you know, get it in the logs direclty etc heh heh	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	iophk: we had another issue this year to really	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	or two	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	or three maybe	Feb 05 18:36
iophk	lots of Mageia demos?	Feb 05 18:36
Sosumi	so if you like the current path M$ is following (into irrelevance)	Feb 05 18:36
Sosumi	he is your guy	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	iophk: yeah I started showing eople stuff on my netbook	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	and explaining about Mageia bit et	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	c	Feb 05 18:36
sebsebseb	and yep most took a disc when that	Feb 05 18:37
Sosumi	sebsebseb, I thought you had migrated into the mac	Feb 05 18:37
sebsebseb	Sosumi: hmm?	Feb 05 18:37
Sosumi	just messing with you :P	Feb 05 18:38
sebsebseb	Sosumi: a guy actsauly had Mageia on his Mac at our stand	Feb 05 18:38
sebsebseb	one guy asked me if he was running Mageia on it, I was like no, but turns out he was	Feb 05 18:38
Sosumi	natively?	Feb 05 18:38
sebsebseb	yep I think so	Feb 05 18:38
sebsebseb	a normal Mageia install on the Mac	Feb 05 18:38
Sosumi	it depends	Feb 05 18:38
sebsebseb	iophk: yeah someone needed to attract people in	Feb 05 18:39
sebsebseb	iophk: and no one was really doing it properly and so I start doing it	Feb 05 18:39
iophk	cool	Feb 05 18:39
sebsebseb	meant sacraficing talks though	Feb 05 18:39
sebsebseb	in the end, but ah well	Feb 05 18:39
iophk	many were recorded but they are not sorted and edited yet	Feb 05 18:39
Sosumi	those core duo machines with graphics switching between the 9400gt and 9600gt are kind of a brick to run gnu/linux	Feb 05 18:40
sebsebseb	iophk: yep videos will be up later on	Feb 05 18:40
sebsebseb	iophk: I still found time to get round most of the many stands as well :d	Feb 05 18:40
sebsebseb	guess how many geek t-shirts I came back with	Feb 05 18:40
sebsebseb	a few free, but most bought	Feb 05 18:40
iophk	12?	Feb 05 18:40
Sosumi	9000?	Feb 05 18:41
sebsebseb	iophk: narly	Feb 05 18:41
sebsebseb	nearly	Feb 05 18:41
sebsebseb	Sosumi: heh heh no	Feb 05 18:41
sebsebseb	Sosumi: those might be to heavy for the plane :d	Feb 05 18:41
sebsebseb	you know bag waight limits	Feb 05 18:41
sebsebseb	can't go over that or uh can't take that	Feb 05 18:41
Sosumi	:)	Feb 05 18:41
sebsebseb	iophk: very nearly so how much?	Feb 05 18:42
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Sosumi	and crapple has just pushed the trashcan pro's shipping to march	Feb 05 19:14
Sosumi	which means that by they start shipping, the gpus on the thing (underclocked hd7970 on the top model) will be totally outdated	Feb 05 19:15
Sosumi	also, issues with xquartz are nowhere to receive a fix	Feb 05 19:16
Sosumi	on the other front, iOS is kind of falling behind	Feb 05 19:17
Sosumi	which means Tim Cook, the logistics genius, is not only failing at doing the logistics properly	Feb 05 19:18
Sosumi	but also dragging the entire company on their former glory, if we can define that period between the introduction of the iphone 3g and the death of Jobs	Feb 05 19:19
Sosumi	with no actually "innovative" product	Feb 05 19:20
Sosumi	and not fixing current issues within osx	Feb 05 19:21
Sosumi	aka opengl still sucks	Feb 05 19:21
Sosumi	and minor bugs with the windowing system	Feb 05 19:21
Sosumi	crapple is slowly falling into irrelevance	Feb 05 19:22
Sosumi	which is good	Feb 05 19:23
Sosumi	hell	Feb 05 19:24
Sosumi	they didn't even get the tpc/ip over thunderbolt right	Feb 05 19:24
Sosumi	and killed all the clustering packages	Feb 05 19:24
Sosumi	so for the folks claiming the new mac pro is a reminiscence of the xserve cluster (released back during the G4 days with just a single hdd bracket)	Feb 05 19:26
Sosumi	should be reminded that xgrid is dead	Feb 05 19:27
Sosumi	deprecated, just like final cut server and so on	Feb 05 19:27
Sosumi	and it is by mentioning all of this that the flame wars begin or the paid trolls start kicking in	Feb 05 19:28
Sosumi	hey autodesk cares so much about osx that maya after certain polygon count just craps on itself	Feb 05 19:29
Sosumi	because apparently just there aren't enough animators using osx anymore for them to care	Feb 05 19:30
MinceR	they weren't shipping trashcan pros yet?	Feb 05 19:33
MinceR	also, hypeOS was behind the competition even when it was designed, and failed to even intend to catch up	Feb 05 19:34
MinceR	also, i wonder how the cultists believe trashcan pros would even be mounted in a rack	Feb 05 19:35
Sosumi	not in europe	Feb 05 19:37
Sosumi	europe was pushed all the way to march	Feb 05 19:37
Sosumi	also, I don't mean it in the hype os being behind android	Feb 05 19:38
Sosumi	I meant it the sense of how crapple has hiked the prices of the iphone and not introduced some really "kewl" feature in order to have everyone hyping about it	Feb 05 19:39
MinceR	ic	Feb 05 19:39
Sosumi	and you can always use wine racks	Feb 05 19:39
MinceR	lol	Feb 05 19:39
MinceR	also, i meant it as being behind PalmOS, winblows mobile and Symbian :>	Feb 05 19:40
Sosumi	or bookshelves like virginia tech did with their first version of the system x	Feb 05 19:40
Sosumi	it was behind those	Feb 05 19:40
Sosumi	actually	Feb 05 19:40
Sosumi	the only thing crapple brought in	Feb 05 19:40
Sosumi	was the unified store	Feb 05 19:40
Sosumi	nothing more	Feb 05 19:40
MinceR	unified between what?	Feb 05 19:41
Sosumi	that you could get everything from one single place	Feb 05 19:41
MinceR	i don't think such a thing exists yet	Feb 05 19:41
Sosumi	I meant it	Feb 05 19:41
Sosumi	as having only one single source for distribution	Feb 05 19:42
Sosumi	aka itunes store	Feb 05 19:42
MinceR	like an APT repository? :>	Feb 05 19:42
Sosumi	lets not confuse the folks out there :P	Feb 05 19:42
MinceR	i think Maemo had that before crApple	Feb 05 19:43
Sosumi	and only after that nokia came with the ovi store	Feb 05 19:43
MinceR	s/crApple/hypeOS/	Feb 05 19:43
Sosumi	no idea about maemo	Feb 05 19:43
MinceR	wikipedia says it used APT for updates :>	Feb 05 19:43
Sosumi	but it never caught into the mainstream	Feb 05 19:44
Sosumi	and the only? maemo device that nokia put out	Feb 05 19:44
MinceR	well yeah, real technology doesn't have a horde of hipsters advertising it	Feb 05 19:44
Sosumi	required a stylus	Feb 05 19:44
Sosumi	and that isn't trendy	Feb 05 19:44
Sosumi	with the kind of target ppl the hypephone tried to target	Feb 05 19:45
MinceR	the things that make a smartphone a smartphone aren't trendy either :>	Feb 05 19:45
Sosumi	like justin beaver fans	Feb 05 19:45
MinceR	:>	Feb 05 19:45
MinceR	if i was a beaver, i'd be offended	Feb 05 19:45
Sosumi	actually I can see it for myself that the ppl that usually use macs are the trendies	Feb 05 19:46
Sosumi	specially these newer ones	Feb 05 19:47
Sosumi	it wasn't always like that	Feb 05 19:47
Sosumi	I actually preferred that time when no one knew what a mac was	Feb 05 19:48
Sosumi	which also meant a cheap ticket outside of intel	Feb 05 19:48
MinceR	so did i	Feb 05 19:48
MinceR	there was less of a war on freedom back then	Feb 05 19:49
Sosumi	and you didn't have the OS so restricted as you have now	Feb 05 19:49
Sosumi	and dumbified for the sake of the trendies	Feb 05 19:50
MinceR	even the first lisa and mac was aimed at idiots	Feb 05 19:50
Sosumi	never used those	Feb 05 19:51
MinceR	jobs' decisions were fully centered on what idiots could cope with	Feb 05 19:51
MinceR	always	Feb 05 19:51
MinceR	for example, the decision to use single-button mice	Feb 05 19:51
Sosumi	but actually one of the reasons I went with the mac back then	Feb 05 19:51
Sosumi	outside of the cheap ticket to ppc and son	Feb 05 19:51
Sosumi	*so on	Feb 05 19:51
Sosumi	was because mathematica was originally designed on the mac	Feb 05 19:52
MinceR	ew	Feb 05 19:52
Sosumi	and I had a math teacher who was always touting it	Feb 05 19:52
Sosumi	and back then crapple also touted how awesome macs were for research	Feb 05 19:54
MinceR	lol	Feb 05 19:54
Sosumi	doing pr peaces with some dudes doing protein simulations and so on	Feb 05 19:55
Sosumi	until	Feb 05 19:55
Sosumi	they killed the fortram compiler	Feb 05 19:55
Sosumi	I think you could still install it via macports	Feb 05 19:55
Sosumi	but everyone knows that macports is the wasteland	Feb 05 19:56
MinceR	having a brain is awesome for research. and if you have a brain, you don't need crApple products :>	Feb 05 19:56
Sosumi	just remember when I rant about xquartz/x11 taking months without receiving a single update	Feb 05 19:56
Sosumi	I just say	Feb 05 19:57
Sosumi	it was a good ride back during the ppc days	Feb 05 19:57
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Sosumi	for me I just hope that the issues with parity between proprietary drivers and free drivers gets solved	Feb 05 20:00
Sosumi	actually, proprietary should just go away	Feb 05 20:00
Sosumi	so it'd be awesome both nvidia and amd got their act together	Feb 05 20:01
Sosumi	because they really have nothing to lose	Feb 05 20:01
Sosumi	only to gain	Feb 05 20:01
Sosumi	from quicker bug fixes to optimization	Feb 05 20:02
Sosumi	but for now	Feb 05 20:02
Sosumi	I'm kind of freezing new hardware purchases in hope IBM comes out with ppc intellistations	Feb 05 20:03
MinceR	recently i've seen an article claiming nvidia started contributing to nouveau	Feb 05 20:03
Sosumi	that'd be the killer deal for me	Feb 05 20:03
MinceR	so it might already be happening	Feb 05 20:03
Sosumi	just contributing	Feb 05 20:03
Sosumi	on some perfect world	Feb 05 20:04
Sosumi	it'd be dumping all they have	Feb 05 20:04
MinceR	indeed	Feb 05 20:04
Sosumi	and axing the proprietary driver	Feb 05 20:04
MinceR	as for intellistations, i'm afraid that's up to lenovo now	Feb 05 20:04
Sosumi	for x86 models	Feb 05 20:05
Sosumi	since IBM got rid of their entire x86 business	Feb 05 20:06
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MinceR	but not the power business?	Feb 05 20:06
Sosumi	yeah	Feb 05 20:06
iophk	They're keeping that.	Feb 05 20:06
Sosumi	power business is still there	Feb 05 20:06
iophk	And claim to be investing in it.	Feb 05 20:06
Sosumi	that is why I'm hopeful for a ppc workstation	Feb 05 20:07
MinceR	ic	Feb 05 20:07
Sosumi	but they could pretty much just sell servers and you mirror a session via ethernet	Feb 05 20:08
iophk	http://davesblog.com/blog/2014/02/05/verizon-using-recent-net-neutrality-victory-to-wage-war-against-netflix/	Feb 05 20:08
TechrightsBot-tr	davesblog.com \| Verizon using recent Net Neutrality victory to wage war against Netflix - Dave's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gkj0j ]	Feb 05 20:08
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iophk	http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/02/gates-spends-entire-first-day-back-in-office-trying-to-install-windows-81.html	Feb 05 20:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.newyorker.com \| Gates Spends Entire First Day Back in Office Trying to Install Windows 8.1 : The New Yorker [ http://ur1.ca/gkjlo ]	Feb 05 20:26
iophk	Vista8 fail	Feb 05 20:26
iophk	if the article is legit	Feb 05 20:26
MinceR	it fails regardless	Feb 05 20:27
iophk	http://bgr.com/2014/02/05/verizon-throttling-netflix-amazon-aws/	Feb 05 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	bgr.com \| Verizon Throttling Netflix, Amazon AWS Following Net Neutrality Death \| BGR [ http://ur1.ca/gkjnw ]	Feb 05 20:36
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Sosumi	vista 8.1 isn't hard to install at all	Feb 05 21:04
Sosumi	unless you do dual boot/efi boot	Feb 05 21:05
MinceR	maybe gates is an idiot	Feb 05 21:05
abeNd-org	w81 isnt all that bad really, faster on the same hardware than win7	Feb 05 21:05
MinceR	maybe his pc was not supported properly	Feb 05 21:05
MinceR	maybe a combination of both	Feb 05 21:05
MinceR	well, i wrote an OS that crashes faster than any version of windows	Feb 05 21:05
MinceR	so by that metric, it's better :>	Feb 05 21:05
abeNd-org	i just installed win81 on an old pen tablet with 2gb ram, including windows updates it probably took less than 2 hours, & that was without really paying attention to it	Feb 05 21:06
Sosumi	I had to reinstall a 8.1 after it broke just after 3 days on cad machine at my university	Feb 05 21:08
Sosumi	*on a cad	Feb 05 21:08
abeNd-org	ive not had stability issues on my work laptop, & i beat the crap out of it	Feb 05 21:08
Sosumi	that for me was a record for a windows install blowing up	Feb 05 21:08
Sosumi	better than that was a mac os 10.4 install breaking after installing everything	Feb 05 21:09
Sosumi	and having to reinstall everything back again	Feb 05 21:09
abeNd-org	im no ms lover, but ive got to admit 81 is more stable & better laid out than previous versions	Feb 05 21:13
Sosumi	well	Feb 05 21:13
Sosumi	memory footprint of windows 8 isn't bad	Feb 05 21:13
Sosumi	compared to osx	Feb 05 21:13
Sosumi	which consumes more ram	Feb 05 21:14
abeNd-org	mind you i barely used the start menu in win7 even	Feb 05 21:14
Sosumi	so how would you call programs up?	Feb 05 21:14
Sosumi	powershell?	Feb 05 21:15
abeNd-org	i set the task bar to small icons & pin everything i use there	Feb 05 21:15
abeNd-org	or use cmd	Feb 05 21:15
Sosumi	if I did that I would end up with a very crowded task bar	Feb 05 21:15
abeNd-org	mine is as well	Feb 05 21:16
abeNd-org	but most users wouldnt be	Feb 05 21:16
Sosumi	I just think m$ should just copy kde	Feb 05 21:16
MinceR	i think m$ should either close the shop or make a freebsd distro with a reskinned kde and wine	Feb 05 21:17
Sosumi	get rid of metro/modern which is just a fusion between osx's launchpad and dashboard	Feb 05 21:17
MinceR	work with the wine developers to fix up support	Feb 05 21:17
MinceR	yeah, get rid of metro and modern	Feb 05 21:17
MinceR	"modern"	Feb 05 21:17
abeNd-org	MinceR: sure, when you get business apps running & supported on something other than windows	Feb 05 21:17
MinceR	and ribbon	Feb 05 21:17
Sosumi	ho yes, kill ribbon	Feb 05 21:17
Sosumi	ribbon is now everywhere	Feb 05 21:18
abeNd-org	sooo many of my customers have business specific programs that only run in windows, server & client side	Feb 05 21:18
Sosumi	in autocad	Feb 05 21:18
Sosumi	matlab	Feb 05 21:18
Sosumi	and so on	Feb 05 21:18
MinceR	that's why i said "work with the wine developers to fix up support" :>	Feb 05 21:18
abeNd-org	so there would be no way to get rid of windows in those clients even if they wanted to	Feb 05 21:18
MinceR	(also, declare winblows apis as deprecated and 'legacy')	Feb 05 21:18
abeNd-org	what vendor actually supports running in wine?	Feb 05 21:18
MinceR	who cares	Feb 05 21:18
MinceR	they just do what m$ tells them to	Feb 05 21:18
MinceR	always worked that way	Feb 05 21:18
abeNd-org	i do, the companies would care, the customers would care	Feb 05 21:18
MinceR	maybe include an earlier, but stripped down winblows as a VM image	Feb 05 21:19
MinceR	call it backwards compatibility	Feb 05 21:19
Sosumi	more bloat?	Feb 05 21:19
Sosumi	a la windows xp mode	Feb 05 21:19
MinceR	yes	Feb 05 21:19
Sosumi	lol no	Feb 05 21:19
abeNd-org	what you ask wouldnt be supportable in the corporate world	Feb 05 21:19
Sosumi	either close shop or get their asses right	Feb 05 21:20
MinceR	no, it wouldn't be supportable in the m$ world	Feb 05 21:20
MinceR	where everything revolves around their plans for world domination	Feb 05 21:20
abeNd-org	do any of you work outside of .edu?	Feb 05 21:20
MinceR	i do	Feb 05 21:20
MinceR	always did	Feb 05 21:20
abeNd-org	for more than a mom & pop shop?	Feb 05 21:20
MinceR	yup	Feb 05 21:21
Sosumi	I'm just edu, everything I do is purely academic	Feb 05 21:21
Sosumi	even the evil things	Feb 05 21:21
MinceR	nowadays i'm seeing pretty up close how hard m$ fails at enterprise	Feb 05 21:21
abeNd-org	so you have every back end & client end system running opensource?	Feb 05 21:21
MinceR	unfortunately, no	Feb 05 21:21
MinceR	it isn't my decision, of course	Feb 05 21:21
abeNd-org	is every single business process able to be ported to opensource?	Feb 05 21:21
MinceR	i just develop for GNU/Linux/X	Feb 05 21:21
MinceR	not sure	Feb 05 21:21
abeNd-org	i highly doubt every single business process has an opensource product that would address those needs, as in fully replacing a windows based alternative	Feb 05 21:22
MinceR	i guess we still have mainframe apps around	Feb 05 21:22
MinceR	coded in cobol	Feb 05 21:23
MinceR	also, i see plenty of textmode DOS apps in various places	Feb 05 21:23
abeNd-org	ive got loads of cpa firms with products running off mssql, windows server/client, there is just nothing in that space that runs on anything other than windows	Feb 05 21:23
MinceR	still, the impact of winblows could be dramatically reduced	Feb 05 21:23
MinceR	the licensing could be improved a lot	Feb 05 21:23
MinceR	even they could get better over time	Feb 05 21:24
MinceR	learn workable tools, choose platform with better judgement the next time a product has to be redesigned/rewritten	Feb 05 21:24
abeNd-org	VLK licensing isnt the greatest, but it is sure better than oem/retail, trying to keep track of that is a total mess	Feb 05 21:24
MinceR	could be freeware or even free software	Feb 05 21:24
Sosumi	so there are no gnu/linux equivalents of activesync, azure, lync and sharepoint?	Feb 05 21:24
MinceR	it would hardly offset the damage they've done so far	Feb 05 21:25
MinceR	but it would be a start	Feb 05 21:25
abeNd-org	so you want to replace quickbooks with gnucash?	Feb 05 21:25
MinceR	maybe	Feb 05 21:25
abeNd-org	not even close	Feb 05 21:25
MinceR	so you want to replace postgres with mssql?	Feb 05 21:25
abeNd-org	considering none of the vendors even support postgres, no, they only support mssql	Feb 05 21:26
MinceR	there's still plenty of idiocy out there	Feb 05 21:26
abeNd-org	and the customers they service that have quickbooks, you gonna convert them to gnucash too?	Feb 05 21:26
MinceR	i've seen a box run mssql	Feb 05 21:26
abeNd-org	not going to happen	Feb 05 21:26
MinceR	it could eventually happen	Feb 05 21:26
MinceR	and there are many things they could do in the meantime	Feb 05 21:26
MinceR	m$ is going to die eventually anyway	Feb 05 21:27
MinceR	the industry is going to leave it behind and leave it for history anyway, unless humanity destroys itself	Feb 05 21:27
MinceR	might as well start early and do it with relatively little pain	Feb 05 21:28
abeNd-org	some of these vendors did have osx or linux versions in the past & dropped them because they made up less than 1% of their customer base	Feb 05 21:28
abeNd-org	so why waste time coding for something that probably won't be used?	Feb 05 21:28
abeNd-org	so they tried, & the market said no	Feb 05 21:29
MinceR	why waste time preparing to move on to platforms your competitors are eyeing?	Feb 05 21:29
MinceR	no idea	Feb 05 21:29
MinceR	who wants to compete anyway	Feb 05 21:29
MinceR	let's just leave everything as it is and expect people to throw money at us	Feb 05 21:30
MinceR	also, throw all your weight behind windows phone, it's a sure winner!	Feb 05 21:30
MinceR	what could possibly go wrong?	Feb 05 21:30
MinceR	</sarcasm>	Feb 05 21:30
abeNd-org	yea, a lot of the cpa firms run the same type of software, but there is so much work that they arent eating each others customers anyways, so changing back end systems wouldnt give them much of anything, even if there was a non-windows version	Feb 05 21:30
abeNd-org	mincer why, the market has said no to windows phone?	Feb 05 21:30
MinceR	look at the market share numbers, since you seem to think that's all that matters	Feb 05 21:31
MinceR	and not all markets are so static	Feb 05 21:31
MinceR	in places, even real innovation is being done :>	Feb 05 21:32
abeNd-org	yea, blackberry is at 0% & windows phone is at best, what 4%?	Feb 05 21:32
abeNd-org	obviously no one really cares for either platform	Feb 05 21:32
MinceR	indeed.	Feb 05 21:32
MinceR	m$ won't be here forever.	Feb 05 21:32
MinceR	windows rt also failed	Feb 05 21:32
MinceR	windows 8.x is being massively rejected	Feb 05 21:33
abeNd-org	but in the enterprise market find me current true replacements to things like http://www.cchgroup.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product__10151_-1_10053_TEMP0186	Feb 05 21:33
MinceR	(even pc sales dropped because of it, iirc)	Feb 05 21:33
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MinceR	i don't know what that is	Feb 05 21:33
MinceR	but i doubt there's anything about it that would prevent any competitor from supporting another platform	Feb 05 21:33
abeNd-org	or http://accountants.intuit.com/tax/lacerte/	Feb 05 21:33
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MinceR	well, the official tax software in hungary has a crossplatform java version	Feb 05 21:34
MinceR	(not sure if there's any other version anymore)	Feb 05 21:34
abeNd-org	there is nothing out there opensource that could replace either of those	Feb 05 21:34
MinceR	(and yes, it isn't open source either)	Feb 05 21:34
Sosumi	but wait, hasn't the enterprise market just kind of finished migrating from xp to windows 7?	Feb 05 21:34
MinceR	but it doesn't have to be open source to leave windows behind	Feb 05 21:35
abeNd-org	Sosumi: i am talking servers, not endpoints	Feb 05 21:35
MinceR	windows on a server... what could possibly go wrong?	Feb 05 21:35
Sosumi	a lot of things	Feb 05 21:35
abeNd-org	plenty	Feb 05 21:35
abeNd-org	but when the customer's line of business application only runs on windows, what do you do?	Feb 05 21:36
abeNd-org	there is no alternative in the opensource world for it	Feb 05 21:36
Sosumi	confine the windows server to the internal network	Feb 05 21:36
MinceR	leave it as it is for now; port it elsewhere; make sure it runs on wine; run it on a windows vm; run it on a central windows vm and let the users use it as thin clients	Feb 05 21:37
MinceR	develop a competing application	Feb 05 21:37
MinceR	the possibilities are limitless :)	Feb 05 21:37
abeNd-org	yea, these windows servers arent open to the public internet, you wouldnt do that with anything in the enterprise, but im not talking firewalls/airgapping/policies/etc, im talking alternatives. you guys act like every corporate server based app like cch's product line have a 100% feature rich opensource alternative... those don't exist..	Feb 05 21:37
MinceR	no, that's not what i'm saying	Feb 05 21:37
abeNd-org	vendors won't support running the product in wine	Feb 05 21:38
MinceR	what i'm saying that there's a way forward (1) for m$ that doesn't seem entirely incompatible with what they've been ding so far	Feb 05 21:38
abeNd-org	that just isnt realistic	Feb 05 21:38
MinceR	and (2) for the rest of the industry, beyond m$	Feb 05 21:38
MinceR	how do you know vendors will never support it?	Feb 05 21:38
MinceR	it might be cheap enough to do so and might provide enough of an edge over a competitor	Feb 05 21:38
MinceR	especially as clients start getting rid of their windows boxes	Feb 05 21:39
abeNd-org	ive actually checked with some, most laugh at it, or ask "what is that?"	Feb 05 21:39
MinceR	(for example because they're sick and tired of retraining their employees for vista, 8, and whatever else)	Feb 05 21:39
abeNd-org	so no, wine is not realistic especially for an mssql back end	Feb 05 21:39
MinceR	(and sick and tired of paying exorbitant fees for windows upgrades and buying expensive hardware to support them)	Feb 05 21:40
abeNd-org	i really dont see the training issues between win95-7, pretty much the same thing	Feb 05 21:40
MinceR	it doesn't seem impossible to migrate an application to support more sql backends	Feb 05 21:40
abeNd-org	win31 & win8 (metro) are the only 2 that actually look different	Feb 05 21:40
MinceR	especially to a saner ingres fork	Feb 05 21:40
MinceR	(mssql is a fork of ingres)	Feb 05 21:40
abeNd-org	& with win81 you just boot to desktop via GPO	Feb 05 21:40
MinceR	actually, there's a lot more to it than that	Feb 05 21:40
MinceR	a lot of functions were totally rearranged	Feb 05 21:41
abeNd-org	MinceR: none of them would entertain moving or supporting other databases either	Feb 05 21:41
MinceR	the start button was taken out, put back in	Feb 05 21:41
abeNd-org	8 doesnt count, since everyone got a free update to 81	Feb 05 21:41
MinceR	the start menu was replaced by fullscreen IE that is totally non-discoverable	Feb 05 21:41
MinceR	actually it does count	Feb 05 21:41
MinceR	for a while it was _the_ thing to "upgrade" to	Feb 05 21:41
MinceR	and customers didn't like it too much	Feb 05 21:41
abeNd-org	right, so use win7 or 81, no one uses 8	Feb 05 21:42
MinceR	ribbon is also spreading in winblows	Feb 05 21:42
MinceR	and that also needs plenty of retraining	Feb 05 21:42
abeNd-org	i see my foxit pdf reader has ribbon, but you can turn it off	Feb 05 21:42
MinceR	built-in winblows apps come with ribbon	Feb 05 21:42
abeNd-org	notepad has ribbon?	Feb 05 21:43
MinceR	explorer, paint, maybe notepad and wordpad	Feb 05 21:43
MinceR	not sure, i'm sure paint has it and explorer had something of the sort	Feb 05 21:43
abeNd-org	lol, no, notepad does not have ribbon.....	Feb 05 21:43
MinceR	IE has its own stupid thing going	Feb 05 21:43
MinceR	with even the menubar being in some random place	Feb 05 21:43
abeNd-org	all the browsers have their own wacky interface going	Feb 05 21:43
MinceR	nope	Feb 05 21:43
MinceR	(then again, if a business relies on IE, they deserve everything)	Feb 05 21:43
abeNd-org	yea, ie/firefox/chrome on windows all have things placed differently	Feb 05 21:43
MinceR	ah, the m$ sense of "nonstandard"	Feb 05 21:44
MinceR	as in, different from m$'s way	Feb 05 21:44
MinceR	doesn't matter if they're consistent with each other, they aren't consistent with us!	Feb 05 21:44
abeNd-org	even firefox on windows vs linux, preferences option is in a different spot	Feb 05 21:44
MinceR	didn't even notice that	Feb 05 21:45
MinceR	then again, i've turned off the standard menubar and use the menu button	Feb 05 21:45
abeNd-org	edit/preferences in linux, tools/options in windows	Feb 05 21:45
abeNd-org	so go bitch at firefox for having their own program all jacked up on different platforms :P	Feb 05 21:46
MinceR	yeah, a menu item being different is totally comparable with menu vs. ribbon and randomizing where the menubar is	Feb 05 21:46
MinceR	also, putting randomized buttons with randomized appearance all over the place	Feb 05 21:47
abeNd-org	i dont really find myself using the ribbon in most apps anyways, shortcut keys	Feb 05 21:47
MinceR	i think you'll find that most users retraining applies to won't use those often :>	Feb 05 21:47
abeNd-org	that is still end user stuff, im trying to get out of you viable server side alternatives	Feb 05 21:49
MinceR	that seems easier	Feb 05 21:49
MinceR	there's plenty of advantages to be had from migrating to a real server OS	Feb 05 21:50
MinceR	including cost savings	Feb 05 21:50
MinceR	seems like an obvious way to gain an advantage over competitors	Feb 05 21:50
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MinceR	especially if they're wasting expensive hardware on something like mssql	Feb 05 21:51
MinceR	again, an obvious thing to look for when redesigining/reimplementing a product	Feb 05 21:51
abeNd-org	usually running virtualized, under vmware esxi essentials plus (or enterprise depending on the client) & a san	Feb 05 21:51
MinceR	wow, the most horrible virtualizer they could possibly find	Feb 05 21:52
MinceR	vmware couldn't be arsed to provide a console client that would run on 32bit winblows xp, let alone gnu/linux	Feb 05 21:52
abeNd-org	so my guess is you think xen is better than esxi55 or hyperv2012r2core?	Feb 05 21:52
MinceR	pretty sure	Feb 05 21:52
abeNd-org	uhm, the vcenter webclient in 5.5 i am sure is pretty much fully cross platform	Feb 05 21:53
MinceR	but i guess if they're trying to hurt themselves as much as possible, then all m$ is the way to go, with a little vmware on the top	Feb 05 21:53
abeNd-org	they are doing away with the old windows based client	Feb 05 21:53
MinceR	i'm pretty sure the version i used didn't have a webclient	Feb 05 21:53
MinceR	maybe the admins could have installed one but afaik they didn't	Feb 05 21:53
MinceR	again, a pretty insane way to build software	Feb 05 21:54
MinceR	'oh, and by the way, if you want to use it at all, you'll also run this piece of crap on a webserver. have fun!'	Feb 05 21:54
MinceR	i guess the next step will be restricting the web client to ie	Feb 05 21:54
abeNd-org	in the 5 yrs of using vmware esx/esxi ive only had one instance of a "PSOD", & that was quickly fixed, so that is pretty darn stable	Feb 05 21:54
MinceR	so you get to run a machine to run the web client and a vm to run ie on to access the vm you're trying to use	Feb 05 21:55
MinceR	yo dawg, i heard you liked virtual machines	Feb 05 21:55
abeNd-org	vcenter server appliance is linux based	Feb 05 21:55
MinceR	well, at least there's that	Feb 05 21:55
MinceR	meanwhile everyone else has supported things like vnc for ages	Feb 05 21:55
abeNd-org	& that is what hosts the webclient, they arent restricting it to IE only	Feb 05 21:55
MinceR	well, i guess not hype-v, but who cares about that	Feb 05 21:55
MinceR	...yet	Feb 05 21:55
MinceR	i've seen plenty of ie-only "web"apps already	Feb 05 21:56
abeNd-org	ive been running it in chrome	Feb 05 21:56
abeNd-org	without issue, so pretty sure it isnt limited to IE, so nothing to worry about there	Feb 05 21:56
MinceR	there's plenty to worry about, considering their past	Feb 05 21:56
abeNd-org	pretty sure vmware is leaning to be as platform agnostic as it can be since ms has their pure-ms hyperv	Feb 05 21:57
abeNd-org	none of my clients are running xen, even citrix's variety	Feb 05 21:58
MinceR	well, i hope vmware will manage to be more platform agnostic in the future	Feb 05 22:00
abeNd-org	by going with the webconsole for vcenter they are	Feb 05 22:00
abeNd-org	if you try using the win32 app with 5.5 it pretty much says at the login screen to use the webclient, that the win32 app will not receive any feature updates & all that goes into the webclient	Feb 05 22:01
abeNd-org	so yea, the windows only management is pretty much dead	Feb 05 22:01
MinceR	i hope they'll install the webclient where i work, then	Feb 05 22:01
abeNd-org	are you running esxi free, or at least essentials?	Feb 05 22:01
MinceR	does vmware charge extra for the webclient?	Feb 05 22:01
MinceR	i think they're running some sort of esxi	Feb 05 22:01
abeNd-org	& if essentials, do you have a vcenter server (either be it the linux appliance or installed on windows)?	Feb 05 22:02
MinceR	but i'm not sure, vmware is throwing product names around like they're charging per word or something	Feb 05 22:02
MinceR	there's also something they call vSphere	Feb 05 22:02
abeNd-org	not really but shrug (outside of the sales side of things)	Feb 05 22:02
abeNd-org	yea, if you know your vsphere server dns/ip, try the following -	Feb 05 22:02
abeNd-org	https://vcenter:5480 - that will only show up if they are running the linux appliance	Feb 05 22:03
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abeNd-org	for viclient web client itself try - https://vcenter:9443/vsphere-client	Feb 05 22:04
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MinceR	thanks, i'll try those at work	Feb 05 22:04
abeNd-org	or possibly https://vcenter/vsphere-client	Feb 05 22:04
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abeNd-org	if they are running vcenter 5.1 or 5.5 that should be available	Feb 05 22:05
abeNd-org	i know i use it for my vmware installs	Feb 05 22:05
Sosumi	I see you both have experience in the corporate world...	Feb 05 22:11
MinceR	if vmware spent the money they spent on making up product names on development instead, they'd probably have better products and more easily understood product names :>	Feb 05 22:12
abeNd-org	Sosumi: close enough, IT consultant, from mom & pop shops to large colleges	Feb 05 22:14
abeNd-org	MinceR: yea, im not defending their sales folk & names	Feb 05 22:14
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schestowitz	[14:50] <amarsh04> @schestowitz, I have had some grief with a Seagate SATA drive ST3500418AS due to SATA cables working loose in transport (with the problem sometimes being cheap and nasty SATA cables). Meanwhile an IBM SCSI drive from 1998 is still running in this machine: IBM DCAS-34330W S65A	Feb 05 22:34
schestowitz	Thanks, I had my nightmare	Feb 05 22:34
schestowitz	Not sure if you saw my blog post	Feb 05 22:34
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abeNd-org	seagate drives are horrid!	Feb 05 22:42
abeNd-org	http://blog.backblaze.com/2014/01/21/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/	Feb 05 22:43
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abeNd-org	check out the horrid failure rate	Feb 05 22:44
schestowitz	yeah	Feb 05 22:44
schestowitz	I am dealing with them	Feb 05 22:44
schestowitz	abeNd-org: amarsh04 http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/02/03/seagate-evil-company/	Feb 05 22:44
TechrightsBot-tr	schestowitz.com \| schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » If You Are Not a Large-scale Privacy Violator, Then Seagate Does Not Care About You [ http://ur1.ca/gk13f ]	Feb 05 22:44
abeNd-org	yea, i buy WDC drives these days	Feb 05 22:45
abeNd-org	hitachi if i could afford to	Feb 05 22:45
schestowitz	I should have	Feb 05 22:45
schestowitz	I didn't and now I pay the price	Feb 05 22:45
schestowitz	Red the above	Feb 05 22:45
schestowitz	today I had to print labels at a high price at some shop to send back my faulty drive to them	Feb 05 22:45
schestowitz	they send a faulty replacement, too	Feb 05 22:46
abeNd-org	yea, ive got the same with a 1.5tb, ran seatools diagnostics on the replacement & it failed	Feb 05 22:46
schestowitz	wow, so it's not just me then	Feb 05 22:48
abeNd-org	nope	Feb 05 22:48
abeNd-org	pretty common apparently with seagate	Feb 05 22:48
schestowitz	cool, thanks	Feb 05 23:11
schestowitz	I posted something about your experience too	Feb 05 23:11
schestowitz	My rants about them, I reckon, already cost them thousands of dollars in business	Feb 05 23:11
schestowitz	as they deserve this very much, for even statistically they're bad, so they deserve consequences and people deserve better than Seagate	Feb 05 23:12
MinceR	i seem to remember they used to have a better reputation a while ago	Feb 05 23:15
MinceR	perhaps they learned too much from acquiring maxtor? :>	Feb 05 23:15
abeNd-org	heh	Feb 05 23:16
abeNd-org	yea, for the longest seagate was the goto for reliability	Feb 05 23:16
abeNd-org	especially in the days before hitachi bought ibm's deskstar series	Feb 05 23:16
abeNd-org	or deathstar	Feb 05 23:16
MinceR	:>	Feb 05 23:17
abeNd-org	yea, the ibm deskstar had such a high failure rate everyone took to calling them that	Feb 05 23:23
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DaemonFC	www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/05/1275366/-Google-slaps-phishing-warning-on-misleading-GOP-website	Feb 05 23:28
DaemonFC	damn it	Feb 05 23:28
DaemonFC	http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/05/1275366/-Google-slaps-phishing-warning-on-misleading-GOP-website	Feb 05 23:28
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DaemonFC	Firefox does that sometimes.	Feb 05 23:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/candtalan/status/431194935685943296	Feb 05 23:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@candtalan: @schestowitz Or get a real job	Feb 05 23:32
schestowitz	Gates can't get a real job. he's have income tax -- something he never had.	Feb 05 23:32
DaemonFC	Walgreens is considering removing tobacco products from their shelves since CVS made their announcement. So much for "Only in America can a person go to the front of a drugstore to buy cigarettes while sick people have to walk to the back of the pharmacy.". A pizza can still get to your house faster than an ambulance....	Feb 05 23:33
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/GringoPeruano/status/431128553661272064	Feb 05 23:34
TechrightsBot-tr	@GringoPeruano: @schestowitz Hi - just 4 info - there have been reports that it may be China/India or others...	Feb 05 23:34
schestowitz	Any hard proof?	Feb 05 23:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603632	Feb 05 23:35
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even Bill Gates hates Windows 8 https://plus.google.com/102946757503830834230/posts/8yYuc6GSdKk #billgates #vista8 - article about it soon... he hates #vista too	Feb 05 23:35
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schestowitz	"Sadly, satire: PR for Gates and advertisement for Vista 7."	Feb 05 23:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603632	Feb 05 23:40
schestowitz	"It's nice of him to say that now ..."	Feb 05 23:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines (GNOME) Videos is here! http://t.co/ov0D1CS9NE	Feb 06 00:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jelly Bean spills onto 60 percent of Android	Feb 06 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	devices http://t.co/1IMWzjBZx8	Feb 06 00:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Heard of the GNOME Outreach Program for Women?	Feb 06 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	Learn more today. http://t.co/TLPPFdpZBC	Feb 06 00:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ryman (Large UK Chain) Switches to GNU/Linux on	Feb 06 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	Desktops http://t.co/A1QGHSx5HT	Feb 06 00:05
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schestowitz	http://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.com/en/us/archive/disk_failures.pdf	Feb 06 00:45
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:45
schestowitz	An excellent study of disk drives was published by Google in 2007. It's a bit dated now but some of the observations are still interesting.	Feb 06 00:45
schestowitz	...SMART parameters alone are unlikely to be useful for predicting individual drive failures. Surprisingly, we found that temperature and activity levels were much less correlated with drive failures than previously reported.	Feb 06 00:45
schestowitz	Failure rates are known to be highly correlated with drive models, manufacturers and vintages [18]. Our results do not contradict this fact. For example, Figure 2 changes significantly when we normalize failure rates perdrive model. Most age-related results are impacteddrive vintages. However, in this paper, we do not showbreakdown of drives per manufacturer, model, or vintage due to the proprietary nature of these data.	Feb 06 00:45
schestowitz	Interestingly, this does not change our conclusions.contrast to age-related results, we note that all results shown in the rest of the paper are not affected significantly by the population mix. None of our SMARTresults change significantly when normalized by drive model. The only exception is seek error rate, which dependent on one specific drive manufacturer, as we discuss in section 3.5.5. ... it as a rate, and it is meant to be	Feb 06 00:45
schestowitz	used in combination with model-specific thresholds. When examining our population, we find that seek errors are widespread within drives of one manufacturer only, while others are more conservative in showing this kind of errors. For this one manufacturer, the trend in seek errors is not clear, changing from one vintage to another. For other manufacturers, there is no correlation between failure rates and seek errors.	Feb 06 00:45
schestowitz	[Other Work]...[Seagate] rates from 1.2% in the first year to 0.39% in the third (and last year of record). In our study, we did not find much correlation between failure rate and either elevated temperature or utilization. It is the most surprising result of our study. Our annualized failure rates were generally higher than those reported by vendors, and more consistent with other user experience studies.	Feb 06 00:45
schestowitz	It's too bad they hid the vendor information.	Feb 06 00:45
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:45
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603610	Feb 06 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Should Linux look like Windows? http://m.itworld.com/open-source/403528/should-linux-look-windows #gnu #linux #windows	Feb 06 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr	-> m.itworld.com \| Should Linux look like Windows? \| ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gkl63 ]	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	The most Linux Desktops i know don't looks like windows.	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	But what meas 'looks like windows' exactly?	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	"New windows version looks like linux. .."	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/2009_12_11-alt_tab_in_e16/index.html http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/index-e16.html	Feb 06 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr	173.21.64.166 \| 2009_12_11-alt_tab_in_e16/ [ http://ur1.ca/gklq1 ]	Feb 06 00:46
TechrightsBot-tr	173.21.64.166 \| Enlightenment Index [ http://ur1.ca/gklq2 ]	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:46
schestowitz	Vista 7 has tried to imitate the last generation of gnu/linux DE. It almost looks like a crippled version of KDE 3.5.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	The issue is not so much what gnu/linux desktops look like but that they can look like anything you want. The Windows 95 layout is clumsy and painful but the point is that people who use their computer that way can have what they want.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	I explain what I think of DE's in this write up that praises E16 and in this index of use. Computers became too powerful for awkward tabbed interfaces like Microsoft's taskbar way back in the 1990s. E16's clear distinction between virtual desktops and virtual screens solved that problem elegantly. Programs can be arranged by task on different virtual desktops and left running. The kernel puts unused programs in cache, so there's not	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	much of a performance penalty for most people's work. I do like system trays, launchers and icon boxes. KDE's kicker was an excellent combination, but there are good tools in almost every DE that can be called on.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	Other people who only run one or two applications might like a single screen interface but that's worse than a straight jacket to me.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	Most, by number anyway, have a resemblance to Win95: Task bar, application menu, system tray, desktop with file icons.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	This is for the same reason that all cars have steering wheels, even though there have been cars with joysticks for steering: People are used to steering wheels, and through trying other things have settled on that as the most common way to do it.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	Someone who learned on Windows will not be astonished by Xfce, Lxde, and so on, and will therefore not leave for what they are used to.	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	As the author of The Zen Of Programming wrote so well, "A program should be written so as to astonish the user least."	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 00:47
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603553	Feb 06 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Time explains how to MARK your #facebook account as "deleted" http://techland.time.com/2014/02/04/30-second-tech-trick-how-to-delete-your-facebook-account/ Mark Zuckerberg can still sell your data	Feb 06 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techland.time.com \| Video: How to Delete Your Facebook Account \| TIME.com [ http://ur1.ca/gkg9h ]	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	"Deleting a fog account only denies yourself access to it before the fogger would have naturally."	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603494	Feb 06 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Verizon Using Recent Net Neutrality Victory to Wage War Against Netflix http://davesblog.com/blog/2014/02/05/verizon-using-recent-net-neutrality-victory-to-wage-war-against-netflix/ #verizon #gnu #linux	Feb 06 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> davesblog.com \| Verizon using recent Net Neutrality victory to wage war against Netflix - Dave's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gkj0j ]	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	"Everyone but some idiot judge saw that and maybe that idiot wanted it to happen."	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603479	Feb 06 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #bbc covers #gnu #linux only when it's "rogue" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-26047439 http://www.northkoreatech.org/2014/01/31/north-koreas-red-star-os-goes-mac/ cheeky language all around	Feb 06 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - Apple's Mac OSX imitated in latest North Korea system [ http://ur1.ca/gklqm ]	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	"Smear by negative association and ridicule."	Feb 06 00:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.northkoreatech.org \| North Korea’s Red Star OS goes Mac [ http://ur1.ca/gklqn ]	Feb 06 00:48
schestowitz	Exactly.	Feb 06 00:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hardening the Linux desktop	Feb 06 00:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xF632ze0dG	Feb 06 00:49
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603632	Feb 06 01:16
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even Bill Gates hates Windows 8 https://plus.google.com/102946757503830834230/posts/8yYuc6GSdKk #billgates #vista8 - article about it soon... he hates #vista too	Feb 06 01:16
TechrightsBot-tr	-> plus.google.com \| Homer Slated - Google+ - Even Bill Gates hates Windows 8 Goes back to Windows 7 … [ http://ur1.ca/gklbf ]	Feb 06 01:16
schestowitz	"It's not so difficult to hate Windows 8."	Feb 06 01:16
DaemonFC	http://stallman.org/facebook.html	Feb 06 01:19
TechrightsBot-tr	stallman.org \| Facebook	Feb 06 01:19
DaemonFC	Richard Stallman on why you shouldn't use Facebook.	Feb 06 01:19
DaemonFC	I was recently banned for several hours for asking people to report a spammer that was copy/pasting a letter calling for the murder of gay people.	Feb 06 01:19
DaemonFC	I reported the spammer to Facebook for anti-gay hate speech and threats of violence, and Facebook did nothing. Disgusting. Facebook has also refused to take down Neo-Nazi pages that call for the murder of Jews.	Feb 06 01:19
DaemonFC	I realize the irony that I'm posting this on Facebook. I mostly use Facebook so that people can follow my political notes. Their privacy controls are a complete joke, and intentionally almost impossible to manage. I thought that I had everything locked down, but this anti-gay hate speech spammer could see several things that I thought were hidden. Facebook makes it very easy for crazy people that they do nothing about to stalk you.	Feb 06 01:19
schestowitz	FB should not censor it	Feb 06 01:37
schestowitz	it should let idiots speak	Feb 06 01:37
schestowitz	so we can ridicule them	Feb 06 01:37
schestowitz	Facebook. however, does censor a lot	Feb 06 01:37
schestowitz	sometimes it's soft censorship	Feb 06 01:38
schestowitz	by demotion	Feb 06 01:38
schestowitz	but its criteria for censorship is biased	Feb 06 01:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GIMP free alternative to subscription model	Feb 06 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	Photoshop updated http://t.co/mvzS9VbpX7	Feb 06 01:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source no longer considered avant garde	Feb 06 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	for IT innovators http://t.co/Ad44yuaJbg	Feb 06 01:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE 4.12.2 and 4.11.6 Officially Released with	Feb 06 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	More than 20 Bugfixes http://t.co/WMgoQOXZ21	Feb 06 01:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why open source will rule the data center	Feb 06 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kfpc7gDbbD	Feb 06 01:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux should be a part of School Education	Feb 06 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/B74CjN3Arg	Feb 06 01:42
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DaemonFC	Governor Mike Pence shared a link.	Feb 06 01:58
DaemonFC	2 hours ago	Feb 06 01:58
DaemonFC	As the result of a request from Governor Mike Pence, low interest federal disaster loans will be available to citizens, businesses and certain non-profit organizations in 19 counties as a result of damage from severe weather on November 17.	Feb 06 01:58
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer We all know that federal "disaster" loans usually go to businesses and areas that were not particularly affected by any disaster. It's a backdoor way to sneak money at interest rates well below the market rates to the hacks and cronies of the Governor and other politicians.	Feb 06 01:58
DaemonFC	schestowitz: Do you figure that I'm going to end up on some enemy lists if this continues?	Feb 06 02:01
DaemonFC	:)	Feb 06 02:01
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gde33	spin in circles per second	Feb 06 05:05
DaemonFC	Juanita Link-Jones There is a reason the BIBLE was used to swear him in ! Read it and learn things a school cant teach .Which is why children and young are being mislead into the pits .	Feb 06 05:35
DaemonFC	I replied:	Feb 06 05:35
DaemonFC	"Here's another one of these civic customs: swearing on the Bible. Do you understand that **? They tell you to raise your right hand, place your left hand on the Bible. Does this stuff really matter? Which hand? Does God really give a ** about details like this? Suppose you put right hand on the Bible, you raise your left hand. Would that count? Or would God say: "Sorry, wrong hand! Try again!" Why does one hand have to be raised? What is the	Feb 06 05:36
DaemonFC	magic in this gesture? This seems like some sort of a primitive voodoo mojo stick. Why not put your left hand on the Bible, let your right hand hang down by your side? That's more natural. Or put it in your pocket. That's what your mother used to say. "Don't put your hands in your pockets!" Does she know something we don't know? Is this hand **** really important? Let's get back to the Bible: America's favorite national theatrical prop. Suppose	Feb 06 05:36
DaemonFC	the Bible they hand you to swear on is upside-down. Or backwards. Or both! And you swear to tell the truth on an upside-down backwards Bible. Would that count? Suppose the Bible they hand you is an old Bible and half the pages are missing. Suppose all they have is a Chinese Bible, in an American court! Or Braille Bible, and you're not blind! Suppose they hand you an upside-down, backwards Chinese Braille Bible with half the pages missing! At what	Feb 06 05:36
DaemonFC	point does all of this stuff just break down and become just a lot of stupid ** that somebody made up? They **ing made it up, folks! It's make-believe!" -George Carlin	Feb 06 05:36
DaemonFC	edited that	Feb 06 05:37
DaemonFC	should have read "shtick"	Feb 06 05:37
DaemonFC	:/	Feb 06 05:37
DaemonFC	trolling the governor's page is fun	Feb 06 05:39
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer You know you're living right when the stooges on Facebook's staff are banning your account for 12 hours because you said something that hurt their precious feelings. You know what? I don't care. To Hezmana with the frelling frellers! (Farscape for the uninitiated.) ;)	Feb 06 05:42
DaemonFC	MinceR: I've borrowed your term for Orban.	Feb 06 05:45
DaemonFC	I've started calling Pence "The Robot"	Feb 06 05:45
DaemonFC	or hizzoner, the robot...	Feb 06 05:45
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Hizzoner, The Robot, only seems to serve big corporations, the rich, and the American Taliban. He doesn't even acknowledge us. To get five minutes of his attention, you probably have to buy it with a campaign contribution with five or six zeros at the end.	Feb 06 05:47
DaemonFC	The big corporations that pay no taxes, extract hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of subsidies and tax giveaways, and pay their workers minimum wage, like Walmart, love Pence like they loved Mitch Daniels. Talking about Mitt Romney, Sheldon Adelson (the billionaire casino mogul) said that all they needed to do was get a warm body that could move a pen into the White House. Think of hizzoner Pence as their man in Indiana.	Feb 06 05:51
DaemonFC	I think I've used just about every term to describe our governor that won't get me immediately banned from Facebook.	Feb 06 05:53
DaemonFC	Jim Sanford	Feb 06 06:00
DaemonFC	"Federal judge promises quick ruling on Virginia's ban on gay marriage" - http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/02/04/22570777-federal-judge-promises-quick-ruling-on-virginias-ban-on-gay-marriage?lite	Feb 06 06:00
DaemonFC	I replied:	Feb 06 06:00
DaemonFC	Even better. If they strike it down and the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals affirms the lower court, then gay marriage will also be legal in South Carolina and West Virginia, apparently. That will really be a hoot. It'll all end up in the Supreme Court eventually, and then gay marriage will probably be legal everywhere on Equal Protection grounds. The fundamentalist far-right has their fingers in a Chinese finger trap. The harder they fight this,	Feb 06 06:00
DaemonFC	the more states they're losing. Perhaps they should quit while they're still behind?	Feb 06 06:00
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DaemonFC	"Keep the cheese!", said the rat, "Just let me out of this trap!". Eventually, the American Taliban are going to be begging the courts to stop.	Feb 06 06:04
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DaemonFC	Posted on the Governor's wall...	Feb 06 06:10
DaemonFC	Governor Pence,	Feb 06 06:10
DaemonFC	Please ask the Indiana General Assembly to raise the Indiana minimum wage to $10.10 an hour and index it to inflation.	Feb 06 06:10
DaemonFC	Everyone: Please sign the petition to the Indiana legislature to raise the minimum wage.	Feb 06 06:10
DaemonFC	http://www.credomobilize.com/petitions/tell-indiana-legislators-to-raise-the-minimum-wage	Feb 06 06:10
DaemonFC	Also, petition the United States Congress to pass the Fair Minimum Wage Act.	Feb 06 06:11
DaemonFC	http://action.usaction.org/p/dia/action3/common/public/?action_KEY=605	Feb 06 06:11
DaemonFC	I hate Pence.	Feb 06 06:11
DaemonFC	I want to undermine him as much as possible.	Feb 06 06:11
DaemonFC	So, I'm going to post a letter to him the asks for the opposite of what he's trying to do, every day, until he's out of office.	Feb 06 06:11
amarsh04	Pence as in Denarius (a penny, a day's wage)?	Feb 06 06:14
DaemonFC	Mike Pence	Feb 06 06:17
DaemonFC	Indiana's governor.	Feb 06 06:17
amarsh04	funny name	Feb 06 06:17
amarsh04	I never knew that some Australian currency was minted in the USA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixpence_(Australian)	Feb 06 06:19
DaemonFC	Cheryl Soto First of all, you would have to live in Indiana to vote in Indiana	Feb 06 06:37
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer I do live in Indiana, and I do vote in Indiana. I haven't voted for a single Republican in my life. There hasn't been a single one of them that's been worth a warm pitcher of [vulgar term for urine] since Dwight D. Eisenhower.	Feb 06 06:37
MinceR	DaemonFC: hungary uses robots for the president's role, not as prime minister :>	Feb 06 06:52
MinceR	(to automatically sign whatever laws they vote for in the parliament, without thinking)	Feb 06 06:52
DaemonFC	Do they ever veto anything?	Feb 06 07:14
MinceR	the second one vetoed something right at the beginning on a technicality, for show	Feb 06 07:15
MinceR	it was probably part of his programming	Feb 06 07:15
DaemonFC	MinceR: The Indiana General Assembly can get pretty much whatever it wants.	Feb 06 07:21
DaemonFC	The governor can veto it, but they can override him by scheduling a new vote and getting a simple majority, which is how they passed it the first time.	Feb 06 07:22
MinceR	that's how it works here too	Feb 06 07:22
DaemonFC	The governor can't even appoint his own administration.	Feb 06 07:22
MinceR	the president has relatively little power	Feb 06 07:23
DaemonFC	The Secretary of State, Attorney General, and Superintendent of Public Instruction can all be elected by popular vote.	Feb 06 07:23
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DaemonFC	The Lieutenant Governor doesn't do much. They're technically the President of the state Senate, but they almost never preside over it.	Feb 06 07:25
DaemonFC	The only time that happens is if the Senate is evenly split and they have to start casting a tie breaking vote on nearly every bill, which hasn't happened in decades.	Feb 06 07:25
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.71	Feb 06 07:26
DaemonFC	Occasionally, they make a trip to China to kiss ass and ask them to pollute our state and poison its residents, and create a few bad jobs.	Feb 06 07:26
DaemonFC	Indiana is now doing shit work that China doesn't want.	Feb 06 07:26
DaemonFC	They have several chemical plants and aluminum plants here.	Feb 06 07:27
DaemonFC	One of the byproducts of the aluminum processing is fluoride.	Feb 06 07:27
MinceR	HF?	Feb 06 07:28
DaemonFC	The contamination level around that plant is pretty bad. The state has an environmental protection agency, but it was completely hollowed out by our last governor and doesn't actually inspect anything or issue fines now.	Feb 06 07:28
schestowitz	http://blog.backblaze.com/2014/01/21/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/	Feb 06 07:29
TechrightsBot-tr	blog.backblaze.com \| Backblaze Blog » What Hard Drive Should I Buy? [ http://ur1.ca/ghdvr ]	Feb 06 07:30
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 07:31
schestowitz	Looking at the Backblaze article, I see they give every kind of drive they buy a shakedown run. If lots of drives fail in a limited purchase pod, they try another model. Despite this, they get lemons.	Feb 06 07:31
schestowitz	The drives that just don’t work in our environment are Western Digital Green 3TB drives and Seagate LP (low power) 2TB drives. Both of these drives start accumulating errors as soon as they are put into production. ... These drives are designed to be energy-efficient, and spin down aggressively when not in use. In the Backblaze environment, they spin down frequently, and then spin right back up. We think that this causes a lot of	Feb 06 07:31
schestowitz	wear on the drive.	Feb 06 07:31
schestowitz	The age of drives does not seem to spare Seagate from the conclusions you might draw from the graph. They carefully report results for many models so you can judge for yourself. Backblaze buys them because they are cheap and work well enough in RAIDs.	Feb 06 07:31
schestowitz	"	Feb 06 07:31
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3603632	Feb 06 07:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Even Bill Gates hates Windows 8 https://plus.google.com/102946757503830834230/posts/8yYuc6GSdKk #billgates #vista8 - article about it soon... he hates #vista too	Feb 06 07:32
TechrightsBot-tr	-> plus.google.com \| Homer Slated - Google+ - Even Bill Gates hates Windows 8 Goes back to Windows 7 … [ http://ur1.ca/gklbf ]	Feb 06 07:32
schestowitz	"Gates remains in charge of Microsoft. For him to pretend he does not like H8 is for him to pretend he does not like what he wanted. He might really not like it now that it's cost him a lot of money."	Feb 06 07:33
MinceR	apparently it's HF	Feb 06 07:34
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall%E2%80%93H%C3%A9roult_process	Feb 06 07:34
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Hall–Héroult process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gko99 ]	Feb 06 07:34
MinceR	that's pretty nasty stuff	Feb 06 07:34
MinceR	(stinky too)	Feb 06 07:34
DaemonFC	Indiana has gone way downhill from where it used to be.	Feb 06 08:04
DaemonFC	Our official unemployment rate in the year 2000 was 2.8%.	Feb 06 08:04
DaemonFC	Right now it's like 8.6%.	Feb 06 08:05
DaemonFC	If you go by U6, it's still double digits.	Feb 06 08:05
DaemonFC	And the jobs pay less.	Feb 06 08:05
DaemonFC	The unemployment rate is going down because people are losing their unemployment benefits and giving up on ever finding a job again.	Feb 06 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines China Picks Sides In The OS Wars	Feb 06 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fpVW3IDyR8	Feb 06 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkok5	Feb 06 08:05
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DaemonFC	So they quit applying for jobs, and they're no longer counted as unemployed.	Feb 06 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mutter-Wayland 3.11.5 Adds Support for	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	Sub-Surfaces http://t.co/AcytLJT7ax	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkok6	Feb 06 08:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Defora Provides Yet Another Open-Source Desktop	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sYf6WVVHDm	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkok7	Feb 06 08:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Seeks Even More Independence for	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux http://t.co/NFfFySfdb5	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkok9	Feb 06 08:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Still on Windows XP? Give Ubuntu Linux a go.	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yAi4DabLJe	Feb 06 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkokb	Feb 06 08:06
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DaemonFC	MinceR: Someone said they had been applying for Medicaid and since Indiana hasn't expanded it, they can't get it.	Feb 06 08:07
DaemonFC	I said that everyone who has low income should apply, then go through the entire appeals process, and then apply again.	Feb 06 08:07
DaemonFC	And keep doing that until the judge overrules the FSSA or the state agrees to expand it.	Feb 06 08:07
DaemonFC	We should give them a paperwork DoS until they fucking cut it out.	Feb 06 08:08
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iophk	http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4757045&cid=46168351	Feb 06 09:41
TechrightsBot-tr	yro.slashdot.org \| Lawmakers Threaten Legal Basis of NSA Surveillance - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/gkpav ]	Feb 06 09:41
iophk	Dice wants /. dead, dead, dead	Feb 06 09:42
iophk	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2430374,00.asp	Feb 06 09:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcmag.com \| Travel to Sochi for the Olympics, Get Hacked? \| News & Opinion \| PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/gkpca ]	Feb 06 09:46
iophk	probably Flash exploits	Feb 06 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/umSJLyRlxT	Feb 06 09:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkped	Feb 06 09:53
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DaemonFC	http://www.npr.org/2010/12/15/132072122/it-s-not-your-fault-your-dishes-are-still-dirty	Feb 06 10:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.npr.org \| Dishes Still Dirty? Blame Phosphate-Free Detergent : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/gkpk1 ]	Feb 06 10:18
DaemonFC	LOL	Feb 06 10:18
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MinceR	geekings	Feb 06 11:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Games News http://t.co/R1JgXLpEgW	Feb 06 11:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkq3d	Feb 06 11:31
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Sosumi	In a couple of years it'll be	Feb 06 11:42
Sosumi	"travel to tokyo olympics, get irradiated"	Feb 06 11:43
MinceR	:>	Feb 06 11:45
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amarsh04	one gets more radiation from the plane flight than anywhere outside the exclusion zone	Feb 06 12:01
amarsh04	Taranis drone attack aircraft: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-06/taranis-drone-uk-mod-bae-systems-woomera-south-australia/5242636	Feb 06 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.abc.net.au \| Taranis drone: Britain's $336m supersonic unmanned aircraft launched over Woomera - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) [ http://ur1.ca/gkq9j ]	Feb 06 12:03
MinceR	so "travel to tokyo olympics via plane, get irradiated" :>	Feb 06 12:08
MinceR	or "travel via plane, get RapeyScanned, get irradiated" :>	Feb 06 12:09
iophk	http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2014/02/paging-mythbusters-again-did-microsofts-windows-phone-really-grow-more-in-2012-than-android-or-ios-h.html	Feb 06 12:19
TechrightsBot-tr	communities-dominate.blogs.com \| Communities Dominate Brands: Paging Mythbusters Again: Did Microsoft's Windows Phone Really Grow More in 2012 Than Android or iOS? - How to Lie Creatively with Statistics: The Canalys Are Deliberately Misleading and Utterly Untrustworthy Edition (PS: Not first time for Canalys) [ http://ur1.ca/gkqd6 ]	Feb 06 12:19
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-founders-detention-extended-as-investigation-continues-140205/	Feb 06 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Pirate Bay Founder's Detention Extended, Investigation Continues \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gkqh3 ]	Feb 06 12:46
iophk	http://www.infoworld.com/t/open-source-software/why-open-source-will-rule-the-data-center-235733	Feb 06 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Why open source will rule the data center \| Open source software - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gkqh9 ]	Feb 06 12:47
DaemonFC	LOL	Feb 06 13:06
DaemonFC	The doctor's office screwed up the billing code.	Feb 06 13:06
DaemonFC	My insurance denied it.	Feb 06 13:06
DaemonFC	I called the doctor's office and they said that it was their fault, so they're going to dismiss the entire bill.	Feb 06 13:07
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MinceR	http://davesblog.com/blog/2014/02/05/verizon-using-recent-net-neutrality-victory-to-wage-war-against-netflix/	Feb 06 13:39
TechrightsBot-tr	davesblog.com \| Verizon using recent Net Neutrality victory to wage war against Netflix - Dave's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gkj0j ]	Feb 06 13:39
DaemonFC	http://www.salon.com/2014/02/05/pat_robertson_begs_ken_ham_to_shut_up/	Feb 06 14:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.salon.com \| Pat Robertson begs Ken Ham to shut up - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/gkque ]	Feb 06 14:03
Sosumi	Mincer, I meant irradiated in the sense of breathing contaminated air	Feb 06 14:22
Sosumi	not even referring to contaminated food and water	Feb 06 14:23
Sosumi	but if they breath in a hot particle	Feb 06 14:23
Sosumi	they're literally dead	Feb 06 14:24
DaemonFC	20 years later....	Feb 06 14:25
DaemonFC	still playing cards against the computer	Feb 06 14:25
DaemonFC	:P	Feb 06 14:25
Sosumi	ofc you always get kind of "permeated" by cosmic and solar radiation everytime you fly on an airplane	Feb 06 14:25
Sosumi	and you also get more "permeated" if your office is at the top of a skyscrapper	Feb 06 14:26
Sosumi	make that 20 miserable years	Feb 06 14:26
DaemonFC	I managed to convince the street department to come salt my street.	Feb 06 14:27
Sosumi	to prevent ice formation?	Feb 06 14:28
DaemonFC	No.	Feb 06 14:30
DaemonFC	To melt the two inch thick sheet of ice that has been there for three days.	Feb 06 14:30
DaemonFC	:P	Feb 06 14:31
Sosumi	well that is something new	Feb 06 14:31
Sosumi	I've always thought that salting the street was to prevent icing	Feb 06 14:32
Sosumi	let me see 2 inches....	Feb 06 14:32
Sosumi	5cm	Feb 06 14:33
Sosumi	well, I guess folks will be able to perform the swan lake on that :)	Feb 06 14:34
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iophk	"Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta	Feb 06 15:02
iophk	Commentors - only discuss Beta	Feb 06 15:02
iophk	http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories"	Feb 06 15:02
iophk	http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4760601&cid=46173319	Feb 06 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr	slashdot.org \| Slashdot: News for nerds, stuff that matters	Feb 06 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr	yro.slashdot.org \| How Edward Snowden's Actions Have Impacted Defense Contractors - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/gkr5p ]	Feb 06 15:02
DaemonFC	I just had a couple of pepperoni rolls.	Feb 06 15:19
DaemonFC	They were delicious.	Feb 06 15:19
DaemonFC	Sosumi: This town sucks.	Feb 06 15:19
DaemonFC	I had to email the street department and tell them they missed my entire street the last time it snowed.	Feb 06 15:20
DaemonFC	Then it melted and refroze as a sheet of ice.	Feb 06 15:20
DaemonFC	Then another foot of snow fell on top of the ice.	Feb 06 15:20
Sosumi	ouch	Feb 06 15:20
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/02/sony-sells-off-vaio-pc-business-amid-prolonged-industry-slump/	Feb 06 16:25
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Sony sells off VAIO PC business amid prolonged industry slump \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gkrjg ]	Feb 06 16:25
Sosumi	latest vaios were crap anyways	Feb 06 16:25
Sosumi	actually most laptop pcs are crap	Feb 06 16:25
Sosumi	junky pieces of plastic trying to imitate the macbooks	Feb 06 16:25
Sosumi	at least kudos to asus for the insane looking g75	Feb 06 16:26
Sosumi	although it could have been better, specially on the screen department	Feb 06 16:26
roy_	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/431430979018711040	Feb 06 16:54
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: I gather vista 9 will be about rescuing the turd from the punch bowl and then hoping people will still drink from it @schestowitz	Feb 06 16:54
roy_	https://twitter.com/ianbfarquhar/status/431376704284528640	Feb 06 16:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@ianbfarquhar: @schestowitz @candtalan I once dealt with a telco who said "our customers pay for traffic, DDoS to us is extra profit."	Feb 06 16:57
roy_	I have been paying Web hosts extra when my sites got spammed	Feb 06 16:57
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roy_	https://twitter.com/ianbfarquhar/status/431376704284528640	Feb 06 16:58
roy_	https://twitter.com/oADAMo/status/431370235430461440	Feb 06 16:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@oADAMo: @schestowitz thanks for posting this important history. #nsa #privacy #cia	Feb 06 16:59
roy_	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/431369651071619072	Feb 06 16:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@kaatje36: @schestowitz @glynmoody Makes me very happy I have one of those HP non-colour '80's model printers; works fine :-)	Feb 06 16:59
roy_	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/431368308122603521	Feb 06 16:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz indeed the NSA is no different in that respect than another once famous 3 letter agency, the KGB.	Feb 06 16:59
roy_	KGB protects YOU! :-)	Feb 06 17:00
roy_	https://twitter.com/tongybless/status/431343883654397952	Feb 06 17:02
TechrightsBot-tr	@tongybless: The New ‘MultiOS’ Handset From Geeksphone http://t.co/cvBazWyqWW @geeksphone @bkaradzic @schestowitz @TalkAndroid @Pocketdroid @xataka	Feb 06 17:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/if5X2fqA5h	Feb 06 17:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkryb	Feb 06 17:02
roy_	https://twitter.com/3WhyteDaisies/status/431342753243353088	Feb 06 17:02
TechrightsBot-tr	-> technomag.co.zw \| The New 'MultiOS' Handset From Geeksphone \| TechnoMag Technology News Mag Zimbabwe	Feb 06 17:02
TechrightsBot-tr	Couldn't resolve host 'www.tuxmachines.org' ( status 0 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/63202?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter )	Feb 06 17:02
TechrightsBot-tr	@3WhyteDaisies: @schestowitz @aral So true and yet the world is so stuck unfortunately.	Feb 06 17:02
roy_	https://twitter.com/radarlove777/status/431342121891942400	Feb 06 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@radarlove777: Rewarding The Enemy for a buck @schestowitz http://t.co/3eL81SpqHa	Feb 06 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	@radarlove777: Rewarding The Enemy for a buck @schestowitz http://t.co/3eL81SpqHa	Feb 06 17:03
roy_	http://intellihub.com/spy-agency-engaged-in-internet-false-flag-attacks/	Feb 06 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	intellihub.com \| Spy agency engaged in internet “false flag” attacks \| Intellihub News [ http://ur1.ca/gkrz5 ]	Feb 06 17:03
roy_	[17:04] <roy_> https://twitter.com/terminsane/status/431336824598831104	Feb 06 17:04
roy_	[17:04] <roy_> Marketers don't have the same policy, so it's a loophole	Feb 06 17:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@terminsane: @schestowitz if we cant use your personal files for marketing, what other guise can we use while funneling it to the #nsa?	Feb 06 17:04
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MinceR	http://www.pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/scariest-pumpkin.jpg	Feb 06 17:13
roy_	Fist people https://despora.de/uploads/images/scaled_full_5a3f480c1356dae4796a.jpeg	Feb 06 17:13
roy_	First	Feb 06 17:14
MinceR	:)	Feb 06 17:14
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DaemonFC	http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/01/27/sprint-announces-lg-g2-ota-update-enabling-sprint-spark-bands-and-the-accompanying-spinning-status-bar-icon/	Feb 06 17:28
TechrightsBot-tr	www.androidpolice.com \| Sprint Announces LG G2 OTA Update Enabling Sprint Spark Bands And The Accompanying Spinning Status Bar Icon [ http://ur1.ca/gksai ]	Feb 06 17:28
DaemonFC	installing	Feb 06 17:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The New ‘MultiOS’ Handset From Geeksphone	Feb 06 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PH8QOK1FRw	Feb 06 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gksil	Feb 06 17:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hosting Providers Know A Real OS When They See	Feb 06 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	One http://t.co/MPmOg67qiC	Feb 06 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkszq	Feb 06 18:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moto G goes on sale on Flipkart starting Rs.	Feb 06 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	12,499 http://t.co/knJyORcFaH	Feb 06 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkszr	Feb 06 18:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Previews New Firefox Launcher for	Feb 06 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	Android http://t.co/6TkjpZ0eWK	Feb 06 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkthr	Feb 06 19:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Picking a Flavor of Linux	Feb 06 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mxLvCT5Bj9	Feb 06 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkths	Feb 06 19:11
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3606980	Feb 06 19:23
schestowitz	"Maybe cops are not there to provide good public service."	Feb 06 19:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #CHP cuffs #firefighter helping victims at serious car #accident scene: "_If the law may kill people, then it shall !!_"	Feb 06 19:23
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by uberslan@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_15f57a76f85f8ff3e05b.jpg	Feb 06 19:23
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by uberslan@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_15f57a76f85f8ff3e05b.jpg	Feb 06 19:23
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theblaze.com \| ‘Ridiculous’: How a Firefighter Ended Up in Handcuffs While Helping Victims at Scene of Serious Car Accident \| Video \| TheBlaze.com [ http://ur1.ca/gkt7c ]	Feb 06 19:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Can Android Challenge Embedded Linux?	Feb 06 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Noji1I2FRK	Feb 06 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkttm	Feb 06 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.14 To Make AMD R600/700 OpenGL GS	Feb 06 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	Possible http://t.co/db0ZhxxAvC	Feb 06 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gktto	Feb 06 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Software App Allows You to Install Local	Feb 06 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	Packages http://t.co/fbgv7Pqdxr	Feb 06 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkttp	Feb 06 19:52
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MinceR	https://www.quakenet.org/articles/102-press-release-irc-networks-under-systematic-attack-from-governments	Feb 06 20:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.quakenet.org \| QuakeNet IRC Network- Article - PRESS RELEASE: IRC NETWORKS UNDER SYSTEMATIC ATTACK FROM GOVERNMENTS [ http://ur1.ca/gktyb ]	Feb 06 20:23
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Sosumi	governments want you all on facebook chat	Feb 06 20:25
Sosumi	or on companies that they can supina (if that is the right legal term) for logs	Feb 06 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MINIX 3 Successfully Ported To ARM	Feb 06 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/k6TcblVwuf	Feb 06 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gku02	Feb 06 20:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rackspace opens the door wide for open-source	Feb 06 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	development http://t.co/wNLNBuUREc	Feb 06 20:34
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gku05	Feb 06 20:34
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Sosumi	yeah that	Feb 06 20:36
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MinceR	gn	Feb 06 23:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Justice http://t.co/zBgkX9ZJ3M	Feb 06 23:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkv48	Feb 06 23:57
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DaemonFC	"I don't like Amazon Instant Video. I'd have to go install Firefox for Windows in Wine and get some Windows versions of plugins for it, and then you still have to stream it. Amazon and the publishers aren't really giving you the files. They're giving you the permission to stream it from their servers. I hope your internet access isn't metered and that Amazon exists forever, for your sake, if you're making such foolish "investments"."	Feb 07 01:53
DaemonFC	From one of my posts on Amazon Forums.	Feb 07 01:53
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 07 02:01
DaemonFC	I think Apple and Microsoft are going to be the first tech companies to crash. They could spook investors and hurt Google, even though Google is actually running a business and not "Enron".	Feb 07 02:01
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DaemonFC	Ryan posted a photo to Governor Mike Pence's timeline.	Feb 07 05:26
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=584555108304214&set=a.347907068635687.81180.346937065399354&type=1	Feb 07 05:26
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152187450492370&set=a.10150512463632370.395645.5738237369&type=1	Feb 07 06:26
DaemonFC	oops	Feb 07 06:26
DaemonFC	http://engt.co/1aAvips	Feb 07 06:26
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DaemonFC	http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/06/steve-wozniak-apple-android-phone/	Feb 07 07:00
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3606918	Feb 07 07:43
schestowitz	"Yeah, that's not just like haha my window closed that's like uh oh everything is gone."	Feb 07 07:43
iophk	http://www.altslashdot.org/wiki/index.php?title=AltSlashdot	Feb 07 07:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Medical Device dev platform runs Linux on	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	DaVinci SoC http://t.co/GUjw27Jzk5	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxf6	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steve Wozniak wants an Android Phone from Apple	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fQeBtBuVZc	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxf7	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS (Precise Pangolin)	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	Officially Released by Canonical	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/quAG1biuQg	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxf8	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chrome apps will run without Chrome process in	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	the background http://t.co/oucJ7POEkb	Feb 07 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxf9	Feb 07 07:54
schestowitz	iophk: gm	Feb 07 07:58
schestowitz	thanks, shared	Feb 07 07:58
iophk	I wonder what Dice's agenda to kill /. is.	Feb 07 07:58
iophk	I would have thought that the site was a money maker. But maybe it annoys M$ still.	Feb 07 07:59
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schestowitz	they said it's a money maker now	Feb 07 08:00
schestowitz	the community manager of it was here	Feb 07 08:00
schestowitz	listening to what we had complaints about	Feb 07 08:00
schestowitz	did they whitewash Bill and his new henchmen yet?	Feb 07 08:00
schestowitz	I saw MS Nick did some puff pieces there	Feb 07 08:00
iophk	Don't they have even a single UI specialist on staff? Just sticking to the UI complaints the beta is a disaster. That's not even counting all the pro-M$ garbage to wade though.	Feb 07 08:01
iophk	In a UI less is more.	Feb 07 08:02
schestowitz	I don't even know what they have changed	Feb 07 08:03
schestowitz	but I clicked on those links you put here yesterday	Feb 07 08:03
schestowitz	what does Dice do?	Feb 07 08:03
schestowitz	Ads?	Feb 07 08:03
iophk	Owns stuff.	Feb 07 08:03
schestowitz	What's the biz mode?	Feb 07 08:03
schestowitz	I recently found out that Quinstereet took over many more Linux sites	Feb 07 08:03
schestowitz	inc. my former employer	Feb 07 08:03
schestowitz	This is shocking if you know what their biz model is	Feb 07 08:04
iophk	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dice.com	Feb 07 08:04
iophk	What does Quinnstreet do besides shut things down and liquidate them?	Feb 07 08:04
schestowitz	some it has kept alive	Feb 07 08:07
schestowitz	but no new stories	Feb 07 08:07
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iophk	http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140204-905614.html	Feb 07 08:13
iophk	It wasn't just pro-M$ stuff Dice has been dumping into /.	Feb 07 08:16
iophk	For a while they were posting paid sponsor videos in place of news articles.	Feb 07 08:16
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iophk	http://www.itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/63065-apple-buys-back-$15-billion-in-own-shares	Feb 07 08:40
iophk	Apple now playing like M$	Feb 07 08:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android users running old OS versions? Not	Feb 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	anymore, say latest stats	Feb 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qBbTsFW34N	Feb 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxnx	Feb 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines $300,000 Mozilla Gigabit Community Fund	Feb 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	launched http://t.co/O1kkQOipEX	Feb 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxny	Feb 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gender doesn't matter in Linux and Open Source	Feb 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rSKkR0M1bg	Feb 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxnz	Feb 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steve Wozniak wants an Android Phone from Apple	Feb 07 08:49
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by http://t.co/fQeBtBuVZc	Feb 07 08:49
TweetTuxMachines	@NetPotatoe	Feb 07 08:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gkxp7	Feb 07 08:49
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MinceR	geekings	Feb 07 09:59
roy_	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/431530265920671744	Feb 07 10:00
roy_	https://twitter.com/GringoPeruano/status/431519980836769792	Feb 07 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Impressions of Gnome 3	Feb 07 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3Y3fOeSr6c	Feb 07 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gky4g	Feb 07 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Let's talk Linux, but in a language we can all	Feb 07 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	understand http://t.co/P7QCYiryGR	Feb 07 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gky4h	Feb 07 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mandriva releases new version of systems	Feb 07 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	management software http://t.co/M424O8CaoE	Feb 07 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gky4i	Feb 07 10:35
DaemonFC	Mandriva is kind of deadish	Feb 07 11:44
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roy_	russopjoboa again http://www.timesunion.com/opinion/article/Sochi-is-the-wrong-place-time-people-5211320.php	Feb 07 17:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/6ivAuqF8KC	Feb 07 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl21p	Feb 07 17:42
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MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/pTW9u05.jpg	Feb 07 17:52
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/new-bill-demands-smartphones-have-kill-switch-in-case-of-theft/	Feb 07 19:38
Sosumi	they already have	Feb 07 19:38
Sosumi	just ask google and crapple (and M$) to give the rights to the user	Feb 07 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ceph Storage Gets Solid Endorsement,	Feb 07 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	Certification from Red Hat	Feb 07 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BWr4j9VXU8	Feb 07 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl2rn	Feb 07 19:42
Sosumi	also IBM is looking into going fabless	Feb 07 19:56
Sosumi	which on my opinion is a mistake	Feb 07 19:57
MinceR	ibm is looking into getting rid of all of its divisions, apparently	Feb 07 19:57
Sosumi	if they were to compete with intel on the high end workstation market	Feb 07 19:57
Sosumi	plain sad	Feb 07 19:57
Sosumi	also ibm was the only company that actually fuses the printed chip into a ceramic board	Feb 07 19:58
Sosumi	*fused	Feb 07 19:58
Sosumi	by printed chip I mean the die	Feb 07 19:59
Sosumi	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/PPC-970fx.jpg	Feb 07 20:01
MinceR	is that good?	Feb 07 20:02
Sosumi	doesn't look as finicky as intels green boards	Feb 07 20:03
Sosumi	actually	Feb 07 20:03
Sosumi	to tell the truth	Feb 07 20:03
Sosumi	intel sucks on their entirely assembly of the final package	Feb 07 20:03
Sosumi	from poorly soldered heathspreaders on the socket 1366 and 2011 to just using some cheap grease on the 1155s	Feb 07 20:05
Sosumi	and to tell it better	Feb 07 20:05
Sosumi	I just find it totally dumb that the high end models	Feb 07 20:05
Sosumi	aka top xeons and core i7	Feb 07 20:06
Sosumi	have a heathspreader	Feb 07 20:06
Sosumi	direct die contact would make it for more efficient cooling	Feb 07 20:06
MinceR	ic	Feb 07 20:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP to join Chromebox fray with mini-PC	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	available in four color choices	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/bRTyWr6Rtk	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl31s	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PGP Web of Trust: Core Concepts Behind Trusted	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	Communication http://t.co/VkbENhBKSC	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl31u	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 20 is looking kind of mature these days	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wVye7Jy0ke	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl31v	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines In the Fedora installer, you can choose your	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	desired desktop (and Debian does this, too)	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NUlOyZ3sWc	Feb 07 20:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl31w	Feb 07 20:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Releases Faster, More Stable Version 0.8	Feb 07 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1yEczilEQ4	Feb 07 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl3zo	Feb 07 22:12
Sosumi	gn	Feb 07 22:15
MinceR	o/	Feb 07 22:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft revival only if Gates and Ballmer	Feb 07 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	leave http://t.co/gaSy8Yr6sk	Feb 07 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl4mv	Feb 07 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google aims Chromebox at video conferencing	Feb 07 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VP8tIWfSBx	Feb 07 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl4mx	Feb 07 23:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Jolla’s 3D files let you print your own smart	Feb 08 01:12
TweetTuxMachines	covers http://t.co/9a9bFkkcjI	Feb 08 01:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl5hn	Feb 08 01:12
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schestowitz	[19:58] <MinceR> ibm is looking into getting rid of all of its divisions, apparently	Feb 08 02:18
schestowitz	It should get rid of itself	Feb 08 02:18
schestowitz	and wouldn't be missed much	Feb 08 02:19
MinceR	:>	Feb 08 02:19
MinceR	power[pc] fans will miss it	Feb 08 02:19
schestowitz	software patent lawyers would miss IBM	Feb 08 02:19
schestowitz	Which lobbies for them	Feb 08 02:19
MinceR	also, it seems that they did a better job making computers than lenovo	Feb 08 02:19
schestowitz	IBM does not make computers	Feb 08 02:20
schestowitz	it branded them	Feb 08 02:20
MinceR	thinkpads are losing more and more of what made them what they were	Feb 08 02:20
schestowitz	maybe designed some parts	Feb 08 02:20
schestowitz	it didn't make much	Feb 08 02:20
MinceR	now even the keyboard layout is lame, afaik	Feb 08 02:20
MinceR	afaik they did make a lot of things	Feb 08 02:20
MinceR	for example, hard drives (which they sold to hitachi)	Feb 08 02:21
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3610512	Feb 08 02:21
schestowitz	Well, people should have no expectation of privacy in the US either."77"	Feb 08 02:21
MinceR	keyboards -> unicomp	Feb 08 02:21
schestowitz	Exactly.	Feb 08 02:21
MinceR	printers -> lexmark	Feb 08 02:21
schestowitz	where did they manufacture in the past decade or two?	Feb 08 02:22
MinceR	and the talk of them going fabless implies that they also have facilities for making cpus	Feb 08 02:22
schestowitz	Heck, even consulting was offshored	Feb 08 02:22
MinceR	dunno, they seem to be falling apart	Feb 08 02:22
schestowitz	""The State Department has already warned travelers that they should have no expectation of privacy while in Russia." lol"	Feb 08 02:22
schestowitz	"because the state department knows everything..."	Feb 08 02:22
MinceR	:>	Feb 08 02:23
MinceR	something i saw quoted on irc:	Feb 08 02:23
MinceR	Dmitry Kozak, the deputy prime minister responsible for the Olympic preparations, seemed to reflect the view held among many Russian officials that some Western visitors	Feb 08 02:23
MinceR	are deliberately trying to sabotage Sochi's big debut out of bias against Russia. "We have surveillance video from the hotels that shows people turn on the shower, direct	Feb 08 02:23
MinceR	the nozzle at the wall and then leave the room for the whole day," he said. An aide then pulled a reporter away before	Feb 08 02:23
MinceR	note the part where they say "we have surveillance video [from the showers]"	Feb 08 02:23
MinceR	:>	Feb 08 02:23
schestowitz	http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/2/Open/20th%20Century%20Fox/Pact%20with%20the%20Devil/_derived_jpg_q90_410x410_m0/PactwiththeDevil-BoxArt.jpg?partner=allrovi.com	Feb 08 02:26
schestowitz	MinceR: but the West does try to sabotage it	Feb 08 02:28
schestowitz	fear of Russia	Feb 08 02:28
schestowitz	Fear, not hatrted	Feb 08 02:28
schestowitz	a bit like phobia, the real phobia of Cold Era USSR	Feb 08 02:28
MinceR	does fear not lead to hatred? :>	Feb 08 02:28
schestowitz	not sure	Feb 08 02:28
schestowitz	a classic sentence that...	Feb 08 02:29
schestowitz	Sometimes fear breeds respect	Feb 08 02:29
schestowitz	https://lh3.ggpht.com/-JFqzs0lEHg0/UmBHG0TphdI/AAAAAAAAAI4/l2tPilv9eIg/s640/001.png	Feb 08 02:29
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3612378	Feb 08 02:30
schestowitz	"Wink, wink."	Feb 08 02:30
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3612334	Feb 08 02:31
schestowitz	"Secret laws do not exist in a free society. Or a democracy. Rule by the people is impossible when the law (and rulings on the law) cannot be known by the people."	Feb 08 02:31
MinceR	gn	Feb 08 03:17
DaemonFC	Ryan posted a photo to Governor Mike Pence's timeline.	Feb 08 03:30
DaemonFC	The next time you see The Robot (Pence) ringing a bell for the Salvation Army, give him one of these.	Feb 08 03:30
DaemonFC	And if you don't see The Robot there, give them one anyway.	Feb 08 03:30
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=165591846984188&set=a.154022068141166.1073741826.100006001205661&type=1	Feb 08 03:30
DaemonFC	Dearborn Democrats posted a photo to Governor Mike Pence's timeline.	Feb 08 03:31
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=470273083072794&set=a.341551982611572.61950.341519895948114&type=1&relevant_count=1	Feb 08 03:31
DaemonFC	I replied: You are now leaving Ohio. Welcome to Indiana! KERCHUNK! KERCHUNK! NYANYANYANYANYA!!!! (Sounds you'll hear from the badly maintained roads.) 150 miles to Illinois.	Feb 08 03:31
DaemonFC	Ryan posted a photo to Governor Mike Pence's timeline.	Feb 08 03:32
DaemonFC	Mike Pence's supporters.	Feb 08 03:32
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=584722541620804&set=a.347907068635687.81180.346937065399354&type=1	Feb 08 03:32
DaemonFC	They say that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. The Republicans in Congress have ignored the economy and jobs to schedule hundreds of votes to try to repeal your health insurance. Indiana Republicans in the General Assembly have been trying to add a constitutional Marriage Discrimination Amendment since 2004 for no particularly good reason. There is no plan except to let everything fall apart	Feb 08 03:32
DaemonFC	while we're at each others throats and their rich paymasters can continue the looting. As long as the Koch Brothers find The Robot (Pence) useful, they'll keep pouring in money to contaminate Indiana elections.	Feb 08 03:32
DaemonFC	Adriane Jagger	Feb 08 03:33
DaemonFC	http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/25422743-418/pence-mum-on-plans-to-cut-business-equipment-tax.html via @posttrib	Feb 08 03:33
DaemonFC	I replied: In other words, when YOUR taxes and fees go up, you know who to thank. Many companies pay less than nothing. A Walmart store not only pays no net taxes, they actually cost taxpayers $900,000 apiece. How many more giveaways to highly profitable corporations must Indiana and Federal taxpayers absorb, Governor Pence?	Feb 08 03:33
DaemonFC	I've been mounting an all out assault on Governor Pence's Facebook account.	Feb 08 03:34
DaemonFC	Someone asked why I Liked him. I told them that I don't like him, I just want to know when I need to reply to one of his Imperial Utterances.	Feb 08 03:35
DaemonFC	There was a scandal a while back that made all the newspapers and the evening news channels.	Feb 08 03:35
DaemonFC	Governor Pence's staff was deleting comments that were negative responses to his posts and policies. They got caught and called out.	Feb 08 03:36
DaemonFC	As far as I can tell, they're not removing anything now, because they don't want to be back in the news for censorship.	Feb 08 03:36
DaemonFC	So, there's a group of people, including me, that do not like our governor and have set out to turn his Facebook wall into a liability instead of an asset.	Feb 08 03:37
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 04:09
DaemonFC	I try to minimize my sales taxes by buying high quality goods to begin with so that I don't have to keep buying things over and over again, and ultimately paying more for the items and the sales tax.	Feb 08 04:09
DaemonFC	For example, a pair of American-made New Balance shoes that I wear every day is now three years old and I think I can get 2-3 more years out of them. They still look nearly new. They cost me $120. A $20 pair of Walmart shoes needs to be replaced about three or four times every year.	Feb 08 04:09
DaemonFC	Over time, you pay more when you buy inferior goods.	Feb 08 04:09
DaemonFC	I'll still shop Amazon even though they make you pay sales tax now. What's the other choice? Junk from Walmart?	Feb 08 04:09
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 04:21
DaemonFC	Not only did Occupy Wall Street fail to find its voice and get violently broken up by the corporations and their police, but the movement was even counterproductive in some ways.	Feb 08 04:21
DaemonFC	Some of the people that decided to camp out started ****ing, and had kids. How awful. Now they not only have no job or a $7-8 Walmart-style job, they have kids to take care of too. Worst possible situation that they could be in.	Feb 08 04:21
DaemonFC	Now's not the time to be having kids. The benefits are getting less and less generous, and work doesn't pay the bills even if you don't have them.	Feb 08 04:21
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 04:21
DaemonFC	My cousin works at McDonalds and her boyfriend works in the deli at Walmart, and she announced on her Facebook that she's pregnant and excited about it.	Feb 08 04:21
DaemonFC	How are you supposed to congratulate that? I ended up saying nothing because if I said anything honest, it would have to be "Oh my, I am so sorry...".	Feb 08 04:21
DaemonFC	They'll find out. I feel bad for them. Thankfully, Obamacare exists now so they can get affordable insurance at least.	Feb 08 04:21
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DaemonFC	http://valleywag.gawker.com/this-man-is-representing-aol-on-live-television-1518467796	Feb 08 06:01
DaemonFC	WTFLOL!!!!!	Feb 08 06:01
DaemonFC	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/05/reporter-hacked-sochi-richard-engel_n_4731846.html	Feb 08 07:38
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx1TFJ6TD9YHU9T	Feb 08 07:44
DaemonFC	Macbooks are immediately hacked in Sochi as soon as they are turned on and connected to a wireless network.	Feb 08 07:44
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 07:44
DaemonFC	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/05/reporter-hacked-sochi-richard-engel_n_4731846.html	Feb 08 07:44
DaemonFC	The reporter's brand new Macbook air was hacked in under a minute when he connected it to a wireless network.	Feb 08 07:44
DaemonFC	The security expert is clearly seen using Ubuntu GNU/Linux.	Feb 08 07:44
DaemonFC	:)	Feb 08 07:44
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2XMFBDSQX7BXD	Feb 08 08:01
DaemonFC	AOL has most profitable quarter in ten years. Slashes worker pensions and blames it on "Obamacare and two women with distressed babies".	Feb 08 08:01
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 08:01
DaemonFC	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/02/06/aol-chief-cuts-401k-benefits-blames-obamacare/	Feb 08 08:01
DaemonFC	AOL's Chief Executive Prick, Tim Armstrong, slashed worker pensions and then blamed Obamacare and two female employees whose babies had complications which required expensive medical treatment.	Feb 08 08:01
DaemonFC	Then he went on to announce the most profitable quarter in ten years.	Feb 08 08:01
DaemonFC	"It's the best results we've put in in the last decade," said Armstrong. "We had double-digit revenue growth, double-digit profit growth overall, and we announced our sixth consecutive quarter of consumer traffic growth overall."	Feb 08 08:01
DaemonFC	Then they put this guy on the news:	Feb 08 08:01
DaemonFC	http://valleywag.gawker.com/this-man-is-representing-aol-on-live-television-1518467796	Feb 08 08:01
DaemonFC	"Shingy" the "Digital Prophet", which looks more like Skrillex than upper management.	Feb 08 08:01
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DaemonFC	Perhaps they should fire Shingy the Digital Prophet if they need to free up money for worker benefits. The guy is a freaking kook. I wonder how much he's costing them.	Feb 08 08:31
DaemonFC	miscellanious says:	Feb 08 08:33
DaemonFC	That's because Pat Robertson is six thousand and fifty years old.	Feb 08 08:33
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 08 08:33
DaemonFC	You'd never know it of course, because his age defying protein pancakes have him aging at the rate of Captain Jack Harkness.	Feb 08 08:33
DaemonFC	If only he had developed them sooner, he'd still be 30.	Feb 08 08:33
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schestowitz	[07:45] <DaemonFC> Macbooks are immediately hacked in Sochi as soon as they are turned on and connected to a wireless network.	Feb 08 09:26
schestowitz	Just the uusual russophobia in the press	Feb 08 09:26
schestowitz	as if they're revising cold war fears	Feb 08 09:26
schestowitz	and trying to crash the games because it's in russia	Feb 08 09:26
schestowitz	trying the hack angle, anti-gay angle, etc.	Feb 08 09:26
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DaemonFC	There are anti-gay laws that are nearly as bad as Russia's on the books in over a dozen US states.	Feb 08 09:35
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/361381	Feb 08 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	Not a Diaspora post?	Feb 08 09:42
schestowitz	"It's sad to see kids in their 20's so fat assed."	Feb 08 09:42
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3613865	Feb 08 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trying to pass laws to make back doors mandatory in tracking devices, aka mobile phones http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/new-bill-demands-smartphones-have-kill-switch-in-case-of-theft/	Feb 08 09:42
TechrightsBot-tr	-> arstechnica.com \| New bill demands that smartphones have “kill switch” in case of theft \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gl7ra ]	Feb 08 09:42
schestowitz	:@Peter: "owner of the phone".... proprietor or user? Since stuff with software in it usually can't be bought but only leased I'd say the kill switch should be under control of the end-user or don't have a kill switch."	Feb 08 09:42
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3610682	Feb 08 09:43
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: laderlappen...	Feb 08 09:43
schestowitz	"Just in case, Flatman, did you ever played to NS-CO? (due to your nickname I remembered a videogame pal)."	Feb 08 09:43
schestowitz	"Did not read it, but it seems to me the idea of a kill switch is great. So long as the kill switch is only in possession of the owner of the phone. So the bill means kill switches will be in the hands of the phone producers rather than consumers?"	Feb 08 09:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mageia 4, Firefox 27 & 29, and a Linux Language	Feb 08 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Barrier http://t.co/D87QYslY5P	Feb 08 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl8t4	Feb 08 10:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Argentina,Venezuela Strengthen Ties on Free	Feb 08 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Software http://t.co/BT0frly8dm	Feb 08 10:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vodafone signs as Ubuntu backer	Feb 08 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WGZDHM38Xq	Feb 08 10:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open IoT SBC runs Linux and Android on	Feb 08 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Cortex-A9 http://t.co/AYdAyEW6Ay	Feb 08 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl8tf	Feb 08 10:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines XX != Years of Linux http://t.co/W2AbZLtYDy	Feb 08 10:40
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gl8tj	Feb 08 10:40
DaemonFC	schestowitz: I have a kill switch on my phone.	Feb 08 11:12
DaemonFC	Well, Sprint does.	Feb 08 11:12
DaemonFC	If I report the phone stolen, they shut it down and it's unusable until they reactivate it.	Feb 08 11:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Age of “Commonalities” has Arrived	Feb 08 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vKYE6S9YSP	Feb 08 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/glait	Feb 08 11:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why Windows won't be a roadblock for SteamOS	Feb 08 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QaQIV0mXPL	Feb 08 11:17
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Sosumi	prepare not to laugh	Feb 08 11:50
Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-07/japanese-women-boycott-sex-any-man-who-votes-tokyos-menstruating-women-are-irrationa	Feb 08 11:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zerohedge.com \| Japanese Women Boycott Sex With Any Man Who Votes For Tokyo's "Menstruating Women Are Irrational" Governor \| Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/glao3 ]	Feb 08 11:50
DaemonFC	A record low temperature was set in Fort Wayne this morning.	Feb 08 11:50
DaemonFC	-13 F	Feb 08 11:50
Sosumi	that sounds like summer for me	Feb 08 11:51
DaemonFC	The old record was -8 in 1982.	Feb 08 11:51
DaemonFC	Sosumi: I switched my car over to 5w30 oil before winter for easier starts.	Feb 08 11:52
Sosumi	-25 ºC	Feb 08 11:52
DaemonFC	I'm glad I did. Coldest winter in a long time.... :P	Feb 08 11:52
DaemonFC	The last owner took it to one of those quick lube places.	Feb 08 11:52
DaemonFC	They put 10w30 in it. :P	Feb 08 11:52
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Sosumi	we kind of needed of needed that kind of winter here	Feb 08 11:53
Sosumi	now it feels like I'm in brazil or something	Feb 08 11:53
DaemonFC	I don't like this.	Feb 08 11:53
Sosumi	it's hot and raining	Feb 08 11:53
Sosumi	with 17,4 ºC at home with no heating	Feb 08 11:55
Sosumi	15ºC outside	Feb 08 11:55
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iophk	http://www.heise.de/tp/blogs/6/155818	Feb 08 13:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.heise.de \| ÖDP will Windows-XP-Nutzer zur Installation von Lubuntu bewegen \| Telepolis	Feb 08 13:20
iophk	http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/06/police-backdoor-access-nhs-health-records	Feb 08 13:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| Police will have 'backdoor' access to health records despite opt-out, says MP \| Society \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/glatw ]	Feb 08 13:23
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Sosumi	http://www.macrumors.com/2014/02/07/android-is-like-europe/	Feb 08 13:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.macrumors.com \| Tim Cook: 'Android is Like Europe', Many Different Things Under One Name - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/glb8s ]	Feb 08 13:52
Sosumi	tell Tim Crook that diversity prevents stagnation	Feb 08 13:52
MinceR	geekings	Feb 08 14:06
MinceR	crApple doesn't understand the term "stagnation"	Feb 08 14:07
MinceR	oops	Feb 08 14:07
MinceR	crApple doesn't understand the term "diversity"	Feb 08 14:07
MinceR	they're like m$	Feb 08 14:07
MinceR	also, they can cry and whine all they like, android is going to eat their lunch regardless	Feb 08 14:07
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Sosumi	crapple also doesn't understand the word support	Feb 08 14:42
Sosumi	or how their overhyping usually falls into disappointment once things fail to perform as they should	Feb 08 14:43
Sosumi	or fall behind competitors	Feb 08 14:43
Sosumi	and they turn deaf ears to the complaints	Feb 08 14:46
Sosumi	m$ also does the same	Feb 08 14:46
Sosumi	or telling that the change was right	Feb 08 14:46
Sosumi	and the problem is with you	Feb 08 14:47
Sosumi	that can't adapt and/or living in the past	Feb 08 14:47
Sosumi	when the change was for the worst	Feb 08 14:47
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Sosumi	some folks in the gnu/linux seems to also behave that way	Feb 08 14:48
Sosumi	aka canonical and the dudes behind gnome 3	Feb 08 14:48
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MinceR	an ever growing number, apparently	Feb 08 14:50
MinceR	udisks, kde 4.x, uefi, ext4	Feb 08 14:52
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/neither-microsoft-nokia-nor-anyone-else-should-fork-android-its-unforkable/	Feb 08 16:04
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Neither Microsoft, Nokia, nor anyone else should fork Android. It’s unforkable. \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/glct7 ]	Feb 08 16:04
Sosumi	yay peter blight	Feb 08 16:04
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Sosumi	http://www.forbes.com/asap/2002/0624/044.html	Feb 08 17:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Patently Absurd - Forbes.com [ http://ur1.ca/gldss ]	Feb 08 17:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android/Linux Is The Most Popular OS In India	Feb 08 18:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Desktop-Ready Chrome Applications that	Feb 08 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	Work Great on Linux http://t.co/gjJ3dQezFe	Feb 08 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCC & LLVM Developers May Begin Collaborating	Feb 08 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Another Init System: Sinit - The Suckless Init	Feb 08 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	System http://t.co/LLjfC3b5xs	Feb 08 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LXLE 12.04.4 officially released.	Feb 08 18:24
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3615742	Feb 08 20:10
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schestowitz	"Again!?"	Feb 08 20:10
Sosumi	lol	Feb 08 20:25
Sosumi	maybe the TSA thought that his "johnson" was some kind of remote detonator	Feb 08 20:26
Sosumi	or NSA	Feb 08 20:27
Sosumi	I don't know, there are so many agencies in the US	Feb 08 20:27
Sosumi	that I wonder why don't have one for policing thought	Feb 08 20:28
Sosumi	actually that is kind of possible	Feb 08 20:29
Sosumi	by using algos to analise facial expressions	Feb 08 20:30
Sosumi	thus determining what subject X might be thinking	Feb 08 20:30
Sosumi	so yeah wear your poker face	Feb 08 20:30
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Sosumi	after talking with a teacher of mine	Feb 08 21:11
Sosumi	I think the hopes for a ppc intellistation are kind of dead	Feb 08 21:11
Sosumi	actually from what he told me	Feb 08 21:12
Sosumi	folks at ibm are just hopeful that they can reach retirement before being laid off	Feb 08 21:13
Sosumi	or get a new job before that	Feb 08 21:14
Sosumi	kind of like the M$ employers around here	Feb 08 21:48
Sosumi	after seeing their support jobs flying away to brazil	Feb 08 21:49
Sosumi	*employees	Feb 08 21:49
cubezzz	transition to services only, away from all manufacturing	Feb 08 21:51
Sosumi	the only hopes are to either get a new job before the next round of lay offs	Feb 08 21:51
Sosumi	or hope the job can last till the retiring age	Feb 08 21:52
Sosumi	*retirement	Feb 08 21:52
*Sosumi Zzzzzzº		Feb 08 21:52
Sosumi	cubezzz, aka transition into irrelevance	Feb 08 21:53
cubezzz	actually chip fab is extremely bad for the environment	Feb 08 21:53
cubezzz	sucks, but there it is	Feb 08 21:54
Sosumi	fragmented depleted uranium shells all over the entire middle east and north africa are worst for the environment than chip manufacturing	Feb 08 21:56
Sosumi	probably having to do with the extraction of rare earths	Feb 08 21:56
cubezzz	I'm a computing minimalist, so I use old computers :)	Feb 08 21:57
Sosumi	like a motorola 68k?	Feb 08 21:58
Sosumi	:P	Feb 08 21:58
cubezzz	I have one :)	Feb 08 21:58
Sosumi	I have one too	Feb 08 21:58
cubezzz	no, mainly I use slot 1 p3's	Feb 08 21:58
Sosumi	on my ti 89 calculator	Feb 08 21:58
Sosumi	:)	Feb 08 21:58
cubezzz	in the mid-80's I was a programmer on an IBM 4341	Feb 08 21:58
cubezzz	we got lots of work done on it'	Feb 08 21:59
cubezzz	it had 16 megs of ram	Feb 08 21:59
cubezzz	this machine has 256 megs, so tons of ram :)	Feb 08 21:59
Sosumi	if you say so...	Feb 08 22:00
cubezzz	I'm only a quasi-minimalist, a true minimalist wouldn't even run X	Feb 08 22:00
Sosumi	but to me it seems that you're kind of crippling yourself with such machine	Feb 08 22:01
Sosumi	the last p3 I used was on a compaq armada laptop,	Feb 08 22:02
Sosumi	but its sole use was for pdf/djvu reading, minor text editing and mail work	Feb 08 22:03
Sosumi	and even for that it was kind of sluggish	Feb 08 22:03
Sosumi	but bearable	Feb 08 22:03
cubezzz	well, I'm guessing that's an artifact of the software you use	Feb 08 22:04
cubezzz	I write a lot of my own software	Feb 08 22:04
Sosumi	but you're not writing your own pdf viewer, right?	Feb 08 22:06
cubezzz	not currently :)	Feb 08 22:06
Sosumi	:)	Feb 08 22:07
cubezzz	I can run kpdf on a 512 meg machine	Feb 08 22:07
Sosumi	kde 3.5?	Feb 08 22:09
cubezzz	kde 3.5 or older	Feb 08 22:09
Sosumi	but that is no longer the default viewer for kde 4	Feb 08 22:10
cubezzz	right, but I don't bother with KDE 4	Feb 08 22:11
cubezzz	there's a big schism there	Feb 08 22:11
cubezzz	the first schism was the transition from KDE 1 to KDE 2	Feb 08 22:11
cubezzz	so I figured out a way to run all the stuff I wanted on KDE 3.5.10	Feb 08 22:12
Sosumi	never used those versions of kde	Feb 08 22:12
cubezzz	I could even port some KDE 4 applications over to KDE 3.5.10	Feb 08 22:12
Sosumi	other than version 4	Feb 08 22:12
cubezzz	well, things got a bit overly voluminous after 3.5	Feb 08 22:13
cubezzz	some KDE 1.0 programers hated KDE 2 :)	Feb 08 22:13
Sosumi	I tended to angle towards enlightenment	Feb 08 22:14
Sosumi	and kind of still	Feb 08 22:14
Sosumi	do	Feb 08 22:14
cubezzz	actually I mostly write GUI's in motif	Feb 08 22:14
cubezzz	there's no reason why one can't run KDE 1.0 stuff on KDE 3.5.10 though	Feb 08 22:15
cubezzz	so I carried over all the stuff I liked	Feb 08 22:15
Sosumi	which kde 1.0 stuff in particular?	Feb 08 22:16
cubezzz	oh there was only the one program actually	Feb 08 22:35
cubezzz	krubik :)	Feb 08 22:35
cubezzz	most of the advances in GUIs have been cosmetic	Feb 08 22:36
cubezzz	stuff keeps getting orphaned so I went to a lot of trouble archiving source code for older KDE	Feb 08 22:39
cubezzz	and KDE itself is a result of the baroque programming style of X	Feb 08 22:45
cubezzz	the trouble is that KDE pretty bloated	Feb 08 22:45
cubezzz	KDE is	Feb 08 22:45
cubezzz	running plain ol' mwm is noticeably faster	Feb 08 22:48
cubezzz	the real problem is memory	Feb 08 22:49
cubezzz	not many developers test on systems with 256 megs of memory	Feb 08 22:49
MinceR	mwm is so feature-poor it isn't funny	Feb 08 23:36
MinceR	no ewmh support, not replaceable	Feb 08 23:36
cubezzz	what's not replaceable?	Feb 08 23:43
MinceR	another wm trying to replace it can't do so	Feb 08 23:44
MinceR	not sure if that's an ewmh feature or not	Feb 08 23:45
cubezzz	normally I'd just exit the window manager or run two window managers	Feb 08 23:47
cubezzz	xinit mwm -- :8	Feb 08 23:47
MinceR	won't work if mwm is the session manager :>	Feb 08 23:48
cubezzz	sure it will, I just did it :)	Feb 08 23:49
cubezzz	I'm running two mwm's now :)	Feb 08 23:49
MinceR	on two x servers	Feb 08 23:50
cubezzz	honestly, I don't know	Feb 08 23:53
cubezzz	I got KDE 3.5 and two mwm's running	Feb 08 23:53
cubezzz	there's one X process	Feb 08 23:54
cubezzz	not sure what exactly xinit does	Feb 08 23:54
MinceR	manages the lifetime of an x session, apparently	Feb 08 23:56
cubezzz	I don't think I want to try running two KDE's though :)	Feb 08 23:57

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