IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: January 5th, 2014-January 11th, 2014

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schestowitz	http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2014/Jan-04.html	Jan 05 00:19
TechrightsBot-tr	tirania.org \| ISO C++ 2D API - Miguel de Icaza [ http://ur1.ca/gc354 ]	Jan 05 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Just watched one-hour sci-fiction programme on	Jan 05 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	"Animal Planet", masquerading as documentary	Jan 05 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	(like 'History' Channel). TV makes one dumb.	Jan 05 00:52
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/419633952152776704	Jan 05 01:01
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz dumb owners leads to dumb programming too...both I believe went from some form of public to entirely private ownership...	Jan 05 01:01
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi	Jan 05 01:05
TweetTuxMachines	rolling updates http://t.co/LknEqsHkSb #ubuntu	Jan 05 01:05
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Jan 05 01:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.muktware.com \| Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi rolling updates \| Muktware	Jan 05 01:05
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DaemonFC	ALDI ran out of milk, bread, eggs, and most of their produce	Jan 05 01:09
DaemonFC	I grabbed what I could and then went to Walmart.	Jan 05 01:09
DaemonFC	I got all my favorite stuff though.	Jan 05 01:10
DaemonFC	Everything I need and a few things I didn't. :)	Jan 05 01:10
DaemonFC	I really like those premium chicken pot pies from ALDI.	Jan 05 01:11
DaemonFC	Fedora has updated GNOME Web to 3.10.3.	Jan 05 01:11
DaemonFC	I'll have to try it out. It's getting quite good aside from the odd crash,	Jan 05 01:11
DaemonFC	When it works, it works well.	Jan 05 01:12
DaemonFC	When it crashes, it manages to take out all the tabs at once. It shouldn't be doing that. It's supposed to be using Webkit2.	Jan 05 01:12
DaemonFC	Overall, I like GNOME 3.10. I'll qualify that, though. After you install a ton of extensions, it's pleasant to work with.	Jan 05 01:13
DaemonFC	I don't like how it wants to restart the computer to apply updates.	Jan 05 01:14
DaemonFC	Not every update should require the computer to restart. Very few of them should require that.	Jan 05 01:14
DaemonFC	It's annoying and wrong.	Jan 05 01:15
DaemonFC	Debian seems to be falling apart. It needs some leadership.	Jan 05 01:16
MinceR	maybe it's getting leadership, but of the wrong kind (canonical)	Jan 05 01:16
DaemonFC	It appears that every time there's more than one choice, they try to badly support every possible choice at once. It's like they're paralyzed. Unable to move.	Jan 05 01:16
DaemonFC	It would be better if they had solid leadership that was willing to make choices and accept the consequences.	Jan 05 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Broadcast/TV is beaming science fiction with	Jan 05 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	fake (actor) "scientists" for ratings. Any	Jan 05 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	other proof needed to show TV makes you dumb?	Jan 05 01:17
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DaemonFC	MinceR, They've already said what needs to be done about their init situation.	Jan 05 01:17
DaemonFC	OpenRC is immature and has little documentation and doesn't solve all of their problems.	Jan 05 01:17
DaemonFC	Upstart is well documented and stable, but doesn't solve all their problems, and is against the spirit of DFSG, because of the Canonical CLA.	Jan 05 01:17
DaemonFC	SystemD solves all their problems, is well documented, is stable, and is Free Software without gimmicks.	Jan 05 01:18
DaemonFC	And yet, they can't decide.	Jan 05 01:18
MinceR	neither of upstart and systemd will run on the other kernels they support -- i hope this doesn't mean that they'll throw those kernels away	Jan 05 01:18
DaemonFC	I mean, it seems like a no brainer to me.	Jan 05 01:18
DaemonFC	Well, there again we have a problem.	Jan 05 01:18
DaemonFC	We let 1% of users wreck the GNU/Linux version?	Jan 05 01:18
MinceR	they said they'll just have to implement support for the missing pieces in those kernels, but that sounds very nontrivial to me	Jan 05 01:19
MinceR	we let 99% users wreck our future potential that is HURD?	Jan 05 01:19
MinceR	(or, for that matter, Bedrock Linux)	Jan 05 01:19
DaemonFC	Well, modernizing the other kernels seems to be a better choice than letting GNU/Linux rot.	Jan 05 01:20
MinceR	if it will actually happen	Jan 05 01:20
MinceR	and not just handwaved in at one moment and out at the next	Jan 05 01:20
MinceR	also, upstart is apparently not off the table yet, despite it being obviously inadequate	Jan 05 01:20
MinceR	would that not be letting GNU/Linux rot?	Jan 05 01:21
MinceR	i'm hoping they'll maintain support for sysvinit or openrc and also support systemd	Jan 05 01:21
MinceR	then again, udisks-daemon bothers me and that's not going away either	Jan 05 01:21
DaemonFC	if anyone wants to support other init systems, they're free to do so.	Jan 05 01:22
DaemonFC	systemd needs to be the default	Jan 05 01:22
MinceR	maybe systemd can resurrect it when it dies and then that issue will be sort of patched	Jan 05 01:22
DaemonFC	it's the only one that's up to the task	Jan 05 01:22
MinceR	for certain definitions of the "task", that is.	Jan 05 01:22
MinceR	also, i wonder how this will affect running Debian in a chroot	Jan 05 01:23
MinceR	(not only for Bedrock, but also for things like Android)	Jan 05 01:23
MinceR	(and just plain old chroots for compartmentalization)	Jan 05 01:23
DaemonFC	Fedora is available for Android that way.	Jan 05 01:23
DaemonFC	GNURoot Fedora Remix.	Jan 05 01:23
DaemonFC	It's not official, but it does work.	Jan 05 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi	Jan 05 01:23
TweetTuxMachines	rolling updates http://t.co/Z5ITzKQCD8	Jan 05 01:23
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi rolling updates \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 01:23
DaemonFC	brb	Jan 05 01:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz When broadcasters permitted to relay hoaxes	Jan 05 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	like Uri Geller and http://t.co/14AZIMrQbG	Jan 05 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UxDKfAevl7 no wonder society made	Jan 05 01:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.today.com \| Were you fooled by Animal Planet's mermaid special? - TODAY.com	Jan 05 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	dumb	Jan 05 01:25
TechrightsBot-tr	insidetv.ew.com \| Mermaid hoax drowns Animal Planet's ratings record \| Inside TV \| EW.com	Jan 05 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Diaspora Europe helps simplify PGP	Jan 05 01:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kVeMZ2iK5l	Jan 05 01:34
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.joindiaspora.com \| ## Dear PGP Users <3	Jan 05 01:34
TweetTuxMachines	@umairh I have no time for the inferiority complexes of	Jan 05 01:36
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by rich white guys who think rich white guys are	Jan 05 01:36
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz right because they're rich white guys.	Jan 05 01:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #domestic #espionage http://t.co/Glj8PGEvIT	Jan 05 01:37
TechrightsBot-tr	m.washingtonpost.com \| The NSA refuses to deny spying on members of Congress - The Washington Post	Jan 05 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	watch the photo chosen by #cia .. I mean,	Jan 05 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	#washpo	Jan 05 01:37
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schestowitz	http://lwn.net/Articles/578208/rss	Jan 05 01:42
TechrightsBot-tr	lwn.net \| Positions forming in the Debian init system discussion [LWN.net]	Jan 05 01:42
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schestowitz	<li><h5><a href="http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/04/visual-novel-narcissu-sequel-coming-steam/" rel="nofollow">Visual Novel Narcissu And Its Sequel Are Coming To Steam</a></h5></li>	Jan 05 01:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.siliconera.com \| Visual Novel Narcissu And Its Sequel Are Coming To Steam [ http://ur1.ca/gc3jl ]	Jan 05 01:45
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482392	Jan 05 01:45
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: eBook Reader and Editing Software #Calibre 1.18 Is Almost Perfect http://news.softpedia.com/news/eBook-Reader-and-Editiig-Software-Calibre-1-18-Is-Almost-Perfect-413118.shtml #ebook #literature #gnu #linux	Jan 05 01:46
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| eBook Reader and Editing Software Calibre 1.18 Is Almost Perfect [ http://ur1.ca/gc3jm ]	Jan 05 01:46
schestowitz	"Empecé a usar Calibre hace poco y es un muy buen programa, muy recomendable. Sólo ví una particularidad a tener en cuenta. Cuando programas una descarga de un diario, compromete los recursos del equipo. Aparte de eso, genial'	Jan 05 01:46
schestowitz	Don`t liick the door .... risa	Jan 05 01:46
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482850	Jan 05 01:46
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: *Thief! :D*	Jan 05 01:46
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif	Jan 05 01:46
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif	Jan 05 01:46
schestowitz	"Yuk, he did lick it!"	Jan 05 01:47
DaemonFC	I use a program called Aldiko.	Jan 05 01:52
DaemonFC	It seems to do the job well enough.	Jan 05 01:53
MinceR	so do i	Jan 05 01:58
MinceR	since Cool Reader crashes often on certain ebooks	Jan 05 01:59
MinceR	gn	Jan 05 02:12
*dissent is now known as vallor		Jan 05 03:06
DaemonFC	http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/02/iphone-5s-review-2014/	Jan 05 03:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.gottabemobile.com \| iPhone 5s Review: 100 Days with Apple's New iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gc3zb ]	Jan 05 03:31
DaemonFC	The phone reboots itself and apps crash randomly.	Jan 05 03:31
DaemonFC	They still give it a good review.	Jan 05 03:31
qu1j0t3	well, they probably think Windows is okay too	Jan 05 03:32
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DaemonFC	not bad	Jan 05 05:42
qu1j0t3	you sound surprised	Jan 05 05:42
DaemonFC	never heard of them before	Jan 05 05:43
DaemonFC	That high fiber cereal that ALDI sells is actually kind of good.	Jan 05 08:49
DaemonFC	Most of the high fiber stuff is like eating cardboard.	Jan 05 08:49
DaemonFC	They managed to spruce it up a bit with raisins, cranberries, pecans, and almonds.	Jan 05 08:49
DaemonFC	The wind chill will be -40 this evening.	Jan 05 08:51
DaemonFC	There's something disturbing about the Fahrenheit and Celsius scales agreeing with each other.	Jan 05 08:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sense_amr/status/419704074921984001	Jan 05 09:45
TechrightsBot-tr	@sense_amr: @EllieAsksWhy @schestowitz im usually giving props to people i know	Jan 05 09:45
schestowitz	"I really wish JoinDiaspora.com wasn't running on Amazon..."	Jan 05 09:45
schestowitz	Indeed	Jan 05 09:45
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482618	Jan 05 09:46
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: AMAZONS $600 million contract with CIA is a conflict http://www.4-traders.com/AMAZONCOM-INC-12864605/news/Amazoncom-Inc--United-States--AMAZONS-600-million-contract-with-CIA-is-a-conflict-of-interest-17750524/ "Jeff Bezos purchased the Washington Post for $250 million"	Jan 05 09:46
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.4-traders.com \| Amazon.com, Inc. : United States : AMAZONS $600 million contract with CIA is a conflict of interest \| 4-Traders [ http://ur1.ca/gc83l ]	Jan 05 09:46
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481120	Jan 05 09:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android will power Audi cars http://www.muktware.com/2013/12/android-will-power-audi-cars/18470 #audi #linux #android	Jan 05 09:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Android will power Audi cars » Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gc089 ]	Jan 05 09:48
schestowitz	"It's scary how close we've come to a total surveillance society."	Jan 05 09:48
schestowitz	It has gogtten so bad that e ven when you assume the person next to you is not an informant you may wonder what device on this person makes that person unwittingly an informant, .eg.. a cellphone.	Jan 05 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #android #linux on device "180-gram weight, and	Jan 05 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	IP67 water- and dustproofing."	Jan 05 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7L0TsjvzsY	Jan 05 09:52
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TechrightsBot-tr	linuxgizmos.com \| Rugged Android phone surprisingly thin, light · LinuxGizmos.com	Jan 05 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Here’s a look at the three key developments in	Jan 05 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	open source in 2013:" http://t.co/m0QQQiRXze	Jan 05 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #sharing	Jan 05 09:56
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.linux.com \| Open Computing Accelerated Sharply in 2013 \| Linux.com	Jan 05 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #DreamWorks will release its own 'Dreamtab'	Jan 05 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	Android tablet this spring	Jan 05 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DZgt2XS7AV not following #apple and	Jan 05 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	#jobs anymore	Jan 05 10:00
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theverge.com \| DreamWorks will release its own 'Dreamtab' Android tablet this spring \| The Verge	Jan 05 10:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz A New Open-Source Game Engine Being Released	Jan 05 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3vtb05EJNE maybe a future of	Jan 05 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	free/libre games (as standard) possible	Jan 05 10:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] A New Open-Source Game Engine Being Released	Jan 05 10:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz New Year's Resolutions for SysAdmins	Jan 05 10:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Op5TPljvP3 mostly	Jan 05 10:06
TweetTuxMachines	UNIX/Linux-oriented	Jan 05 10:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.usenix.org \| New Year's Resolutions for SysAdmins \| USENIX	Jan 05 10:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Michael Morell (CIA), writing about the group	Jan 05 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	he's in, tries to pretend nothing is amiss in	Jan 05 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	#nsa http://t.co/x6q8SWRFHR #whitewash	Jan 05 10:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Michael Morell promoted torture. What position	Jan 05 10:11
TweetTuxMachines	is he really in when it comes to ethics	Jan 05 10:11
TweetTuxMachines	committees? #cia #humanrights #abuse	Jan 05 10:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Why aren't more members of Congress complaining	Jan 05 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	about #nsa ? Well, maybe they're afraid. NSA	Jan 05 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	can oust them. http://t.co/cZnOSLzYr2	Jan 05 10:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Senator Bernie Sanders’s letter to #NSA	Jan 05 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	director dated January 3, 2014	Jan 05 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/j7zyhjYy7Q he's already thoroughly	Jan 05 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	demonised	Jan 05 10:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz This new pro- #drones piece from the #nytimes	Jan 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	omits the fact that #fbi already flies drones	Jan 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	across the US, admits it http://t.co/JBYdbYtFzh	Jan 05 10:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Drones will soon be buzzing over every city in	Jan 05 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	America." http://t.co/7cBBvHFT4M Soon? They	Jan 05 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	already are, in most cities.	Jan 05 10:21
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schestowitz	http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/05/scott-stossel-my-age-anxiety-extract	Jan 05 10:25
schestowitz	"Not everyone gets overwhelmed by anxiety. My wife, for one, does not. (Thank God.) Barack Obama, by all accounts, does not. Nor, evidently, does David Petraeus, the former commander of US forces in Afghanistan and former director of the CIA: he once told a reporter that despite being in jobs where the day-to-day stakes are a matter of life and death, he "rarely feels stress at all". "	Jan 05 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Americans who volunteered to distribute books	Jan 05 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	in Russia didn’t know the CIA paid for the	Jan 05 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	printing." http://t.co/VvUWXAG769 cannon fodder	Jan 05 10:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "open-ended permanent wars..." #NDAA	Jan 05 10:28
TweetTuxMachines	"authorizes over $600 billion for global	Jan 05 10:28
TweetTuxMachines	belligerence, mass killing"	Jan 05 10:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lqHb3RBFcQ	Jan 05 10:28
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schestowitz	business insider continues to smear wikileaks and snowden	Jan 05 10:30
schestowitz	http://www.businessinsider.com/edward-snowden-and-wikileaks-2014-1	Jan 05 10:30
schestowitz	pretending there is some collusion	Jan 05 10:31
schestowitz	dating back to pre-leaks days	Jan 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Julian Assange... denounced the Catholic	Jan 05 10:32
TweetTuxMachines	Church's confessional system as a means to spy"	Jan 05 10:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KHnOgid3av	Jan 05 10:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Pierre Omidyar... "cut Wikileaks off at the	Jan 05 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	financial knees in its hour of greatest peril"	Jan 05 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9cCa1KWCWH	Jan 05 10:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Eilis O'Hanlon: No need for secrecy on State	Jan 05 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	soup http://t.co/Gf8OZDGOsF Iron Lady dead now,	Jan 05 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	can't face charges	Jan 05 10:38
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3484076 http://www.globalresearch.ca/inconsistencies-and-unanswered-questions-the-risks-of-trusting-the-snowden-story/5363262	Jan 05 10:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Computing Accelerated Sharply in 2013	Jan 05 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/U2yjCRRjLF	Jan 05 10:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DreamWorks will release its own 'Dreamtab'	Jan 05 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	Android tablet this spring	Jan 05 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/bylICzifHs	Jan 05 10:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Year's Resolutions for SysAdmins	Jan 05 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/A8TMJiJH1S	Jan 05 10:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz EP Green/EFA to use open source to secure email	Jan 05 10:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/o6MUeB0bHX #freesw #europe	Jan 05 10:49
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schestowitz	http://mrpogson.com/2013/12/31/top-7-not/	Jan 05 10:53
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz LiMux - the IT evolution - An open source	Jan 05 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	success story like never before	Jan 05 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b4Zvuo7WfA #limux #gnu #linux	Jan 05 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	#germany	Jan 05 10:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz GNU/Linux is Kicking Ass At Netcraft	Jan 05 10:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IlvDuqtqb2 #gnu #linux huge in	Jan 05 10:59
TweetTuxMachines	servers	Jan 05 10:59
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schestowitz	":-) nr. 10 sounds good: "Remember to write down all the things I do so the year-end review isn't a frantic struggle through old emails to justify my existence. It takes two minutes a day. Actually, this is good for everyone, not just sysadmins.""	Jan 05 11:04
schestowitz	:-) nr. 10 sounds good: "Remember to write down all the things I do so the year-end review isn't a frantic struggle through old emails to justify my existence. It takes two minutes a day. Actually, this is good for everyone, not just sysadmins."	Jan 05 11:04
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3483931	Jan 05 11:04
TweetTuxMachines	@ioerror The answer to Senator Bernie Sanders's question	Jan 05 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by about the #NSA spying on Congress is simple:	Jan 05 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Yes. The NSA is spying on elected officials.	Jan 05 11:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@RohanBeg In the whole Islamic World, Malaysia is the	Jan 05 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by only nation that has restricted usage of the	Jan 05 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz word "Allah" for non-Muslims. Let that sink in.	Jan 05 11:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #forbes is #censorship by #plutocrats , just	Jan 05 11:07
TweetTuxMachines	like #fox (recall the #monsanto incident)	Jan 05 11:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Pq2xWCYB3W	Jan 05 11:07
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schestowitz	https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00651.html	Jan 05 11:11
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/anildash/status/419126301468151808	Jan 05 11:11
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/anildash/status/419126301468151808	Jan 05 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr	@anildash: Heartbreaking, but important, profile of Bob Swartz a year after he, and we, lost @aaronsw: http://t.co/BKYGVl1jnL	Jan 05 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bostonmagazine.com \| Losing Aaron: Bob Swartz on MIT's Role in His Son's Death	Jan 05 11:12
schestowitz	http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/384934/torvalds-steamos-will-really-help-linux-on-desktop	Jan 05 11:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcpro.co.uk \| Torvalds: SteamOS will "really help" Linux on desktop \| News \| PC Pro [ http://ur1.ca/gc8fx ]	Jan 05 11:14
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in	Jan 05 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	OpenSSL site breach http://t.co/CBSlrz9Fh0	Jan 05 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	#openssl #ssl #unix #linux	Jan 05 11:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.networkworld.com \| No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in OpenSSL site breach - Network World	Jan 05 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8g7	Jan 05 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EP Green/EFA to use open source to secure email	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4epvOGDXck	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ho	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LiMux - the IT evolution - An open source	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	success story like never before	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lW6qVtJqPU	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8hq	Jan 05 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| EP Green/EFA to use open source to secure email \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| LiMux - the IT evolution - An open source success story like never before \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU/Linux is Kicking Ass At Netcraft	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KOrRuJVB6t	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8hr	Jan 05 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| GNU/Linux is Kicking Ass At Netcraft \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	OpenSSL site breach http://t.co/pg7X8pBwIx	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8hs	Jan 05 11:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in OpenSSL site breach \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #uk "yellow weather warnings of ice and rain,	Jan 05 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	with 96 flood warnings in place and a further	Jan 05 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	244 areas on flood alert"	Jan 05 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mASDCVv3ZA	Jan 05 11:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| UK's worst winter storms for two decades set to continue \| UK news \| theguardian.com	Jan 05 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8kg	Jan 05 11:47
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press/releases/get-a-court-order-says-rights-group	Jan 05 11:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Get a court order, says Open Rights Group [ http://ur1.ca/gc8mv ]	Jan 05 11:56
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/government-touts-backroom-deals-to-block-extremist-websites	Jan 05 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Government touts backroom deals to block extremist websites [ http://ur1.ca/gc8n3 ]	Jan 05 11:57
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz In the #uk a newspaper can come under	Jan 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	investigation as though reporting is terrorism.	Jan 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5hhSSd5nvF	Jan 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ni	Jan 05 11:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Joint letter to Home Affairs Select Committee highlighting concerns over freedom of the press	Jan 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Some US politicians, including the Vice	Jan 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	President, try to label #wikileaks	Jan 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	"terrorism".Will the #uk block Wikileaks?	Jan 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gmXm2iQRph	Jan 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8nm	Jan 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #uk #censorship "doesn’t seem like there is a	Jan 05 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	body who will be monitoring or dealing with	Jan 05 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	disputes or performance"	Jan 05 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mecItAQbd5	Jan 05 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8o6	Jan 05 12:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Sky's reply to ORG on default internet filters	Jan 05 12:02
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/now-talking-is-treachery	Jan 05 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Now talking is treachery [ http://ur1.ca/gc8od ]	Jan 05 12:03
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/ourwork/reports/response-to-nominet-domain-registration-policy-review	Jan 05 12:05
schestowitz	"No. Nominet should not block terms or expressions. There is an existing process for dealing with illegal content."	Jan 05 12:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Response to Nominet domain registration policy review [ http://ur1.ca/gc8oo ]	Jan 05 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "accuse companies like Google, Yahoo and	Jan 05 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	Microsoft of aiding paedophiles, those	Jan 05 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	companies are bound to take action."	Jan 05 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QO7OhzMwsC	Jan 05 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8p0	Jan 05 12:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Child abuse image policies risk looking like cynical manipulation	Jan 05 12:07
schestowitz	http://mrpogson.com/2013/12/18/fans-take-notice-m-admits-windows-sloowwsss-dddooowwwwwnnnnnnnnn/	Jan 05 12:12
TechrightsBot-tr	mrpogson.com \| Fans Take Notice! M$ Admits Windows Sloowwsss Dddooowwwwwnnnnnnnnn! \| Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gc8ps ]	Jan 05 12:12
schestowitz	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/exponential-algorithm-making-windows-xp-miserable-could-be-fixed/	Jan 05 12:12
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Exponential algorithm making Windows XP miserable could be fixed \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gc8pt ]	Jan 05 12:12
schestowitz	Peter MS Bright spins it	Jan 05 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Google continues to hide/deprecate RSS feeds.	Jan 05 12:24
TweetTuxMachines	It's a real struggle to find XML in anything	Jan 05 12:24
TweetTuxMachines	Google, even its browsers. Google, Y U so lame	Jan 05 12:24
TweetTuxMachines	!!	Jan 05 12:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8sg	Jan 05 12:24
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "AmericaSpeaks will close its doors today."	Jan 05 12:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/W69biePI0E Not to worry, we still	Jan 05 12:24
TweetTuxMachines	have Fox	Jan 05 12:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8sk	Jan 05 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr	americaspeaks.org \| AmericaSpeaks – In Honor of Our 19 Year Legacy « AmericaSpeaks	Jan 05 12:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/419806130848542720	Jan 05 12:25
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz uncontrolled knowledge is a threat to them. In Canada they're even burning books. In the end they will come for wikipedia.	Jan 05 12:25
schestowitz	Knowledge is power and they know it. The NSA spies on everyone, with help from FB, G, MSFT...	Jan 05 12:26
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Liquid cats https://t.co/qgXizFrAMn	Jan 05 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8t9	Jan 05 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Thinking local https://t.co/PAlObyyQVc	Jan 05 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8tl	Jan 05 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Happy birthday to #microsoft - #backdoors for	Jan 05 12:36
TweetTuxMachines	#nsa turn 15. http://t.co/NMS6DCTzZt #antitrust	Jan 05 12:36
TweetTuxMachines	actions dropped in exchange for #espionage	Jan 05 12:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8u8	Jan 05 12:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonsblog.com \| NSA Built Back Door In All Windows Software by 1999 Washington's Blog	Jan 05 12:36
MinceR	geekings	Jan 05 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz For the most part, online connections offer	Jan 05 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	pseudo friendships, more like peers of	Jan 05 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	interest. Real friends needn't connect online.	Jan 05 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	#privacy	Jan 05 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8wm	Jan 05 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz What to many people vanity catalogs (or	Jan 05 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	posing/profiles) are all about is another	Jan 05 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	party's (subsidising the facilitator)	Jan 05 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	#surveillance aides	Jan 05 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ww	Jan 05 12:47
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Someone has told me that #facebook greed for	Jan 05 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	#surveillance (gov/commercial) now includes	Jan 05 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	questionnaires, e.g. years of car purchases	Jan 05 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8x0	Jan 05 12:48
schestowitz	MinceR: j0	Jan 05 12:54
MinceR	do we really need all these tweets in here?	Jan 05 12:55
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz How to deal with thugs http://t.co/9bpvh7WqgJ	Jan 05 12:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8xu	Jan 05 12:57
schestowitz	let me make it so that only tuxmachines appears here	Jan 05 12:57
schestowitz	it wasn't intended to be like this, but tuxmachines follows me, hence it repeats like this	Jan 05 12:58
schestowitz	ol, done	Jan 05 13:01
schestowitz	(ok, done	Jan 05 13:01
schestowitz	http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1388890640394097.jpg	Jan 05 13:06
MinceR	:D	Jan 05 13:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines To Windows and Back Again.	Jan 05 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8UGF5XyHeH	Jan 05 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc95o	Jan 05 13:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| To Windows and Back Again. \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung's Galaxy Camera 2 starts to refine the	Jan 05 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	Android point-and-shoot http://t.co/hDW05cX0zI	Jan 05 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc95q	Jan 05 13:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung's Galaxy Camera 2 starts to refine the Android point-and-shoot \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 30 Cool Open Source Software I Discovered in	Jan 05 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	2013 http://t.co/lHsEdyF9yQ	Jan 05 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc9ei	Jan 05 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| 30 Cool Open Source Software I Discovered in 2013 \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 14:40
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qu1j0t3	schestowitz: right, Tuxm would need to un-follow you.	Jan 05 16:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OggCamp 2013 – Free software, free culture &	Jan 05 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	mass surveillance http://t.co/yb76cSa7o5	Jan 05 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca32	Jan 05 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.13-rc7 announced http://t.co/I2lU7GRPPZ	Jan 05 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca33	Jan 05 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Glade 3.16.1 UI Designer Repairs Numerous Bugs	Jan 05 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/dNMSaGaAIV	Jan 05 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| OggCamp 2013 – Free software, free culture & mass surveillance \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca34	Jan 05 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 3.13-rc7 announced \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Glade 3.16.1 UI Designer Repairs Numerous Bugs \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PC-BSD 10.0 RC3 Improves Hybrid Graphics	Jan 05 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	Support http://t.co/iJiJd0jipq	Jan 05 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca35	Jan 05 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| PC-BSD 10.0 RC3 Improves Hybrid Graphics Support \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 17:03
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3484346	Jan 05 17:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google continues to hide/deprecate RSS feeds. It's a real struggle to find XML in anything Google, even its browsers. Google, Y U so lame !!	Jan 05 17:05
schestowitz	"They hired people from Microsoft to manage "social" and made "social" a priority. They gave power to the wrong people."	Jan 05 17:05
schestowitz	I've been thinking that as a possible explanation. They also hired many patent lawyers and it's affecting corporate policy.	Jan 05 17:05
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482178	Jan 05 17:44
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Oracle refuses to even distance itself from #nsa leaks, allegations. Ellison openly supports NSA, has CIA past.Why trust MySQL, Unbreakable?	Jan 05 17:44
schestowitz	"There's still the open source JRE for Linux."	Jan 05 17:44
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485054	Jan 05 17:44
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: BBC 'hijacked' by sanity (PJ Harvey). #Assange explains #surveillance and #secrecy in 2h:55m http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03mhyzh/Today_02_01_2014/	Jan 05 17:44
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC iPlayer - Today: 02/01/2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gc9m6 ]	Jan 05 17:44
schestowitz	"Pretty awesome innit :)"	Jan 05 17:45
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485057	Jan 05 17:45
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "120-year old city without government functions just fine" http://intellihub.com/2014/01/03/government-free-city-of-max-threatens-u-s-governments-dominance/	Jan 05 17:45
TechrightsBot-tr	-> intellihub.com \| \| INTELLIHUB [ http://ur1.ca/gcaah ]	Jan 05 17:45
schestowitz	"I love shit like this but I couldn't just listen to him talk... And talk... And talk... Ugh..."	Jan 05 17:45
Sosumi	I think Unbreakable linux is kind of a joke	Jan 05 17:45
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 05 17:45
schestowitz	but people who choose Oracle too are a joke :-)	Jan 05 17:45
Sosumi	and there's always "iced tea" aka open source java	Jan 05 17:45
Sosumi	but they have a strong penetration in some sectors	Jan 05 17:47
Sosumi	specially in the health indrustry	Jan 05 17:47
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Sosumi	and almost every new public hospital around here runs on oracle	Jan 05 17:47
MinceR	could be much worse	Jan 05 17:48
MinceR	it could run on winblows	Jan 05 17:48
Sosumi	well.............	Jan 05 17:48
Sosumi	the clients run windows	Jan 05 17:49
schestowitz	AdBlock was whitelisting for cash, IIRc, a classic rogue business model"	Jan 05 17:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3484346	Jan 05 17:49
Sosumi	they just browse the database through internet explorer	Jan 05 17:49
MinceR	must be great to be killed by malware	Jan 05 17:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485040	Jan 05 17:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Ken Kesey would have been to party with.	Jan 05 17:49
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by cannabenoid@d.viewskew.com: https://d.viewskew.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e86a0e4001309b1915c7.jpg	Jan 05 17:49
schestowitz	"yeah then all the hippies became neoliberals in their 50s & 60s"	Jan 05 17:50
Sosumi	well, and lets no forget when the medic or nurse goes out of the room and leaves the patient there waiting	Jan 05 17:50
schestowitz	"@vlax ˚\•/°, did I use you :-D?"	Jan 05 17:50
schestowitz	"indeed... google hates me"	Jan 05 17:50
Sosumi	I could just plug an USB key with malware and blow the thing wide open	Jan 05 17:50
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Sosumi	although I NEVER did that	Jan 05 17:51
Sosumi	and NEVER WILL	Jan 05 17:51
Sosumi	unless... well there's something to gain	Jan 05 17:51
Sosumi	but that wouldn't be the 1st time	Jan 05 17:53
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Sosumi	the systems belonging to the ministry of justice have been blown countless times	Jan 05 17:53
Sosumi	although their system is a bit different with a bunch of outdated aix servers serving a couple of municipalities	Jan 05 17:56
Sosumi	and many of their clients still on win 98 and 2000	Jan 05 17:57
Sosumi	and in some cases, DOS for what they called "judicial payments"	Jan 05 17:58
Sosumi	how do I know all that? well my grandfather was judicial secretary (top honcho at one of the main regional courts here in portugal)	Jan 05 18:02
Sosumi	he's retired now, but not that much changed for the better since he left	Jan 05 18:03
Sosumi	that was why you still see dumb things like minors and dead folks being counted in the past elections	Jan 05 18:05
Sosumi	or the dead actually voting	Jan 05 18:06
MinceR	more common is the braindead voting	Jan 05 18:07
Sosumi	see? it is just not only the US with its diebold voting machines	Jan 05 18:08
Sosumi	I always vote	Jan 05 18:08
Sosumi	I make a big X in the entire bulletin	Jan 05 18:08
Sosumi	and sometimes write a message	Jan 05 18:08
Sosumi	like "they are all sons of the same mother"	Jan 05 18:09
Sosumi	simply because I actually fear being singled out or facing repercussions for not playing along	Jan 05 18:10
Sosumi	when you have politicians promising you prosperity but in turn taking everything	Jan 05 18:11
Sosumi	and the mindless majority blindingly following, you need to be carefull	Jan 05 18:12
Sosumi	and things like that are common in here, if you actually speak against the system, you're treatened or harassed	Jan 05 18:13
MinceR	i tend to vote for the lesser evil	Jan 05 18:17
MinceR	they usually lose anyway	Jan 05 18:17
Sosumi	but even with all its negatives, PT is still a better place to live than say the US or france or spain or the uk	Jan 05 18:20
Sosumi	or ukraine	Jan 05 18:21
Sosumi	simply because things tend to be slow around here	Jan 05 18:21
Sosumi	and if you know how to handle yourself	Jan 05 18:22
Sosumi	you can actually get things done without being bothered	Jan 05 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 Surprises At Red Hat Partner Conference 2014	Jan 05 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/XD6TWi1bRq	Jan 05 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcakc	Jan 05 18:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 Surprises At Red Hat Partner Conference 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 18:37
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iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/internet-censors-came-for-torrentfreak-now-im-really-mad-140105/	Jan 05 19:13
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Internet Censors Came For TorrentFreak & Now I’m Really Mad \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gcaxr ]	Jan 05 19:13
iophk	http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/the-county-sheriff-who-keylogged-his-wife/	Jan 05 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| The county sheriff who keylogged his wife \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gcb43 ]	Jan 05 19:18
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iophk	http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2014/01/so-previewing-smartphone-bloodbath-year-5-who-is-still-left-alive.html	Jan 05 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr	communities-dominate.blogs.com \| Communities Dominate Brands: So Previewing Smartphone Bloodbath Year 5: Who Is Still Left Alive [ http://ur1.ca/gcd95 ]	Jan 05 20:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The 10 Best Features Of FreeBSD 10.0	Jan 05 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HxKEdFQIBc	Jan 05 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcdi8	Jan 05 20:16
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The 10 Best Features Of FreeBSD 10.0 \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines It Looks Like Ubuntu's First Phone Might Be For	Jan 05 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	China http://t.co/gD13j89sEm	Jan 05 20:16
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| It Looks Like Ubuntu's First Phone Might Be For China \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Parted Magic Continues Being Commercial-Only	Jan 05 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iNE3F2zOOX	Jan 05 20:16
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Parted Magic Continues Being Commercial-Only \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 20:16
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.reddit.com \| Internet Censors Came For TorrentFreak & Now I’m Really Mad : worldnews	Jan 05 20:20
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iophk	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1559318/Menezes-could-not-have-saved-his-life.html	Jan 05 20:45
iophk	old	Jan 05 20:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Menezes could not have saved his life - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gcdpr ]	Jan 05 20:45
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/419925124595204096	Jan 05 22:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@fcassia: @schestowitz http://t.co/oHTSh5qvOG :-p	Jan 05 22:05
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 05 22:19
MinceR	gn	Jan 05 22:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485389	Jan 05 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Abusive cartel of the medical industry. This is looting. http://www.quickmeme.com/p/3vr7y8	Jan 05 22:45
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.quickmeme.com \| Guy Gets Sick, Spends Few Hours in Hospital Then This Happens.... - quickmeme	Jan 05 22:45
schestowitz	"	Jan 05 22:46
schestowitz	It's only getting worse with Obamacare, he let the insurance company write a bill for their own "regulation" (ie the removal of competition). Now they are going to charge whatever they want because 1 you HAVE to pay for it so there is no incentive to lower prices OR provide a better service and 2 no competition.	Jan 05 22:46
schestowitz	Government managed healthcare is a death sentence.	Jan 05 22:46
schestowitz	'	Jan 05 22:46
schestowitz	"Neo-Liberalism (which should rightly be called Fascism) in your backyard.'	Jan 05 22:46
schestowitz	"@Agora, about government managed health care... it depends. I live in a country with a public health care system with high cost-efficiency. It has beed working this way just because insuarance companies din't write the regulation.'	Jan 05 22:46
schestowitz	"@Agora, about government managed health care... it depends. I live in a country with a public health care system with high cost-efficiency. It has been working this way just because insuarance companies din't write the regulation."	Jan 05 22:47
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485617	Jan 05 22:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@psychonot@pod.orkz.net: Good for this guy taking to the internet to address this injustice. If you think this is bad just wait for Obamacare to come into full swing.	Jan 05 22:48
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schestowitz	"	Jan 05 22:48
schestowitz	Good for this guy taking to the internet to address this injustice. If you think this is bad just wait for Obamacare to come into full swing.	Jan 05 22:48
schestowitz	It's beginning to look a lot like a Police State... Everywhere ya go...	Jan 05 22:48
schestowitz	"	Jan 05 22:48
schestowitz	Good for this guy taking to the internet to address this injustice. If you think this is bad just wait for Obamacare to come into full swing.	Jan 05 22:48
schestowitz	It's beginning to look a lot like a Police State... Everywhere ya go...	Jan 05 22:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485483	Jan 05 22:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #napolitano against move which would label her and her colleagues criminals, not #snowden http://presspass.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/05/22187914-napolitano-rejects-idea-of-clemency-for-nsa-leaker-snowden http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/05/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-clemency	Jan 05 22:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> presspass.nbcnews.com \| Napolitano rejects idea of clemency for NSA leaker Snowden - Press Pass [ http://ur1.ca/gcesl ]	Jan 05 22:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| Napolitano: NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden should not be given clemency \| World news \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gcesm ]	Jan 05 22:49
schestowitz	"She is the living embodiment of a slug."	Jan 05 22:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485483	Jan 05 22:49
schestowitz	"Sticky wicket? More of a non-starter, I would think."	Jan 05 22:49
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schestowitz	"pehaps that's still a great market to enter as a newbie"	Jan 05 23:54
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485478	Jan 05 23:54
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It Looks Like Ubuntu's First Phone Might Be For China http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU2MDY #ubuntu #linux #gnu #china	Jan 05 23:54
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] It Looks Like Ubuntu's First Phone Might Be For China [ http://ur1.ca/gcffr ]	Jan 05 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Ivy Bridge Linux Performance Stepped Up	Jan 06 00:01
TweetTuxMachines	In 2013 http://t.co/DvWOY4DrwU	Jan 06 00:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcfjc	Jan 06 00:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel Ivy Bridge Linux Performance Stepped Up In 2013 \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 00:01
schestowitz	http://rdwolff.com/content/richard-wolff-capitalism-and-socialism-interview-c-j-polychroniou	Jan 06 00:09
TechrightsBot-tr	rdwolff.com \| Richard Wolff on Capitalism and Socialism: An Interview with C. J. Polychroniou \| Professor Richard D. Wolff [ http://ur1.ca/gcfmj ]	Jan 06 00:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/WoWn3XWw8d	Jan 06 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcg0z	Jan 06 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/3ejLoHZLCM	Jan 06 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcg11	Jan 06 00:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 00:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 00:47
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/malware-attacks-thousands-of-yahoo-com-visitors-through-java-exploit/	Jan 06 01:15
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Malware attacks thousands of Yahoo.com visitors through Java exploit \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gcgat ]	Jan 06 01:15
Sosumi	lol java	Jan 06 01:15
Sosumi	but ho well	Jan 06 01:16
Sosumi	gn :)	Jan 06 01:17
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Sosumi	http://enenews.com/abc-news-govt-baffled-over-white-spots-on-cows-around-fukushima-plant-farmer-no-one-knows-what-they-are-i-think-its-from-radiation-our-towns-contaminated-like-chernobyl-we-were-j	Jan 06 07:58
TechrightsBot-tr	enenews.com \| ABC News: Gov’t, scientists ‘baffled’ over white spots on cows around Fukushima plant — Farmer: No one knows what they are, I think it’s from radiation; “Our town’s contaminated like Chernobyl… We were just thrown away like trash” — Officials order the animals to be slaughtered (VIDEOS) [ http://ur1.ca/gclcl ]	Jan 06 07:58
Sosumi	STALKER: Call of Fukushima	Jan 06 07:59
Sosumi	I said it before right after it happened in march,	Jan 06 08:03
Sosumi	Japan either had to get it together and find new means to actually decontaminate or they'd be doomed	Jan 06 08:04
Sosumi	and they kind of know that, Abe beating the war drums with china is just a distraction to ease the minds out of the big glowing elephant in the room	Jan 06 08:06
Sosumi	and I loved the name Abenomics	Jan 06 08:07
Sosumi	and the fact that some ppl of the Abe family, according to yoichi shimatsu of the asia times,	Jan 06 08:09
Sosumi	were involved in the tokyo subway gassing	Jan 06 08:09
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Sosumi	my bad, he's the former editor of the japan times	Jan 06 08:14
Sosumi	my bad	Jan 06 08:14
Sosumi	ánd former pacific news service	Jan 06 08:15
Sosumi	now working with the 4th media out of hong kong	Jan 06 08:15
Sosumi	http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Saving_Agent_Snowden_From_His_Handlers_Greenwald_%26_Omidyar	Jan 06 08:17
TechrightsBot-tr	wikispooks.com \| Document:Saving Agent Snowden From His Handlers Greenwald & Omidyar - WikiSpooks [ http://ur1.ca/gclfl ]	Jan 06 08:17
Sosumi	that's an actual article from him	Jan 06 08:17
DaemonFC`	I saw a video where people were trying out a "shatter proof" iPhone 5 screen protector.	Jan 06 08:18
Sosumi	but didn't Snowden say that he was still working for the NSA? But "they" just didn't know/realize it?	Jan 06 08:18
DaemonFC`	The iPhone 5 does have Gorilla Glass, but it's not as good as the Gorilla Glass in the LG G2.	Jan 06 08:18
DaemonFC`	My G2 has Gorilla Glass 3, and apparently the iPhone 5 has the older Gorilla Glass 2.	Jan 06 08:18
DaemonFC`	Corning said that GG 3 is about 40% more damage resistant.	Jan 06 08:19
DaemonFC`	I still don't have any scratches on my phone's screen, and I've had it in my pocket with loose change and cigarette lighters several times.	Jan 06 08:20
DaemonFC`	So, I think GG 3 is just good stuff.	Jan 06 08:21
Sosumi	I'm kind of tired of apple...	Jan 06 08:21
Sosumi	and the thought of having to port 10 years plus of work to linux	Jan 06 08:21
DaemonFC`	Well, if you're paying $600 for a phone, you want the best stuff in that phone.	Jan 06 08:21
Sosumi	is kind of killing the inner child inside me	Jan 06 08:21
DaemonFC`	It kind of shocked me that the iPhone doesn't have Gorilla Glass 3.	Jan 06 08:22
DaemonFC`	Or that it only has half the RAM that my phone has.	Jan 06 08:22
Sosumi	just 1GB even on the 5s	Jan 06 08:22
DaemonFC`	Yeah, Ny G2 has 2 GB of RAM.	Jan 06 08:22
Sosumi	sad joke, but then again look at the mac pro, the supposed pro workstation	Jan 06 08:23
Sosumi	can't keep itself cool	Jan 06 08:23
DaemonFC`	It also basically destroys the iPhone 5S on OpenGL ES benchmarks.	Jan 06 08:23
Sosumi	and has two underclocked 6GB HD7970 sold as firepros	Jan 06 08:23
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Sosumi	awesome! right?	Jan 06 08:23
Sosumi	not in my book, I'd kill that thing in a month	Jan 06 08:24
DaemonFC	Yeah. There's really no reason to buy a FirePro card.	Jan 06 08:24
DaemonFC	It just costs more. The difference is only in program certification for their proprietary driver.	Jan 06 08:24
DaemonFC	They don't guarantee program compatibility with the Radeon HD, but that's the only difference I believe.	Jan 06 08:25
DaemonFC	In practice, they should run the same programs.	Jan 06 08:25
Sosumi	but, they are selling a lie there	Jan 06 08:25
Sosumi	since there is no and never was and never will be a distinction between pro and normal graphics driver in osx	Jan 06 08:25
DaemonFC	I recommend AMD's Radeon HD cards mostly because of the driver situation.	Jan 06 08:26
DaemonFC	Nouveau is barely usable.	Jan 06 08:26
DaemonFC	It's incredibly slow when it does work.	Jan 06 08:26
DaemonFC	It's a step up from what NV was, but that isn't saying much.	Jan 06 08:26
Sosumi	and there's no ECC in those cards, so folks offloading to gpu will get errors	Jan 06 08:27
Sosumi	even through on the real fire pros	Jan 06 08:27
Sosumi	ecc was virtual	Jan 06 08:27
DaemonFC	Nvidia's not really cooperating. They drop a hint here and there, but they're not releasing huge amounts of programming documentation.	Jan 06 08:27
Sosumi	I know that, nvidia are kind of the typical asses	Jan 06 08:28
DaemonFC	Sosumi, That's funny, because the system RAM is ECC, and the processor is a Xeon.	Jan 06 08:28
Sosumi	but fire pros and quadro cards are there to satisfy a niche	Jan 06 08:28
DaemonFC	So they have error control there, but not on the graphics cards?	Jan 06 08:28
Sosumi	but the cards are falso fire pros	Jan 06 08:28
DaemonFC	That's crazy.	Jan 06 08:28
Sosumi	*false	Jan 06 08:28
Sosumi	if you're doing autocad and offloading to the gpu you're going to need one of those cards	Jan 06 08:29
Sosumi	for offloading you're actually going to need a model that has ECC	Jan 06 08:30
Sosumi	tesla, mostly and probably the k6000	Jan 06 08:31
Sosumi	I haven't seen the specs on that one	Jan 06 08:31
Sosumi	since it is kind of not there yet	Jan 06 08:31
Sosumi	but open source drivers should be the future	Jan 06 08:35
Sosumi	there's no doubt about that	Jan 06 08:35
Sosumi	actually if I remember well	Jan 06 08:41
Sosumi	one of the problems with the system x at virginia tech	Jan 06 08:41
Sosumi	was the fact that the original powermac cluster they built lacked ecc	Jan 06 08:41
Sosumi	I guess crapple never mentioned that in their propaganda page	Jan 06 08:42
Sosumi	later they replaced those powermacs with xservers	Jan 06 08:43
Sosumi	which they sould have never gotten due to reliability issues with the watercooling system	Jan 06 08:43
Sosumi	and the powermacs could be fitted with ecc ram with issue	Jan 06 08:44
Sosumi	my powermac g5 had ecc ram	Jan 06 08:44
Sosumi	although the model used at virginia tech was the dual 2.7GHz and I got the quad 2.5GHx one year later	Jan 06 08:45
Sosumi	it was almost 10 years ago	Jan 06 08:51
Sosumi	how time flies :(	Jan 06 08:51
DaemonFC	http://io9.com/theres-a-polar-vortex-sweeping-across-america-and-i-1494961441?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow	Jan 06 09:03
TechrightsBot-tr	io9.com \| There's a "polar vortex" sweeping across America, and it is NASTY [ http://ur1.ca/gcls2 ]	Jan 06 09:03
DaemonFC	I'm in the middle of it.	Jan 06 09:03
DaemonFC	The wind chill outside is 40 below zero.	Jan 06 09:03
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DaemonFC	Yeah. It's a nasty storm.	Jan 06 09:10
DaemonFC	There's at least a foot of snow on the ground right now.	Jan 06 09:10
DaemonFC	The weather report said it was supposed to stop snowing at 1 AM, but it's still going.	Jan 06 09:10
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DaemonFC	Plus the wind is blowing it out of trees and off roofs.	Jan 06 09:11
DaemonFC	With this much snow on the roof, I'm worried that the roof could actually cave in.	Jan 06 09:11
DaemonFC	I haven't seen snow like this in years.	Jan 06 09:11
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DaemonFC	The weather service says that this is as cold as it's been in this part of Indiana since the 1970s.	Jan 06 09:12
MinceR	geekings	Jan 06 09:16
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Sosumi	global warming, right?	Jan 06 09:41
MinceR	winter does not disprove global warming	Jan 06 09:45
MinceR	also, it's 8°C here and the predicted minimum is 5°C	Jan 06 09:46
MinceR	https://twitter.com/idiot/status/419549763936067584	Jan 06 09:47
TechrightsBot-tr	@idiot: Why did the chicken send a HTTP request? To GET to /the-other-side.	Jan 06 09:47
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DaemonFC	I went outside for about a minute.	Jan 06 10:21
DaemonFC	It's way too cold out there. I think I might just make an exception to my smoking in the house rule.	Jan 06 10:22
DaemonFC	Or I could just open the window and lean my head out. That way, at least the rest of my body would be warm.	Jan 06 10:22
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iophk	http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/security/62719-being-a-patriot	Jan 06 10:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itwire.com \| Being a Patriot [ http://ur1.ca/gcmj9 ]	Jan 06 10:58
iophk	http://falkvinge.net/2014/01/06/censorship-causes-liability-uk-isps-need-to-be-sued-way-out-into-atlantic/	Jan 06 11:01
TechrightsBot-tr	falkvinge.net \| Censorship Triggers Liability: UK ISPs Need To Be Sued Way Out Into Atlantic - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/gcmjs ]	Jan 06 11:01
iophk	"From 05.12.2013 to 05.02.2014, the European Commission is inviting all interested parties, including individuals and NGOs, to offer their thoughts on how the EU copyright rules should be developed"	Jan 06 12:40
iophk	http://www.copywrongs.eu/	Jan 06 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.copywrongs.eu \| Help reform copyright	Jan 06 12:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 13.10 - The "Marmite" Linux Operating	Jan 06 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	System http://t.co/UnXoU1YCrc	Jan 06 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why Acer's new Android desktops are a	Jan 06 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	game-changer http://t.co/NWMXyDQGk5	Jan 06 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Belkin shows Linux powered smart slow cooker at	Jan 06 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 13.10 - The "Marmite" Linux Operating System \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Why Acer's new Android desktops are a game-changer \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	CES 2014 http://t.co/qaeWzQgbqc	Jan 06 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn9b	Jan 06 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Belkin shows Linux powered smart slow cooker at CES 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What to expect from Ubuntu in 2014	Jan 06 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hrPpZDuc1N	Jan 06 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn9d	Jan 06 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| What to expect from Ubuntu in 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Summary of 2013 and New Year's list	Jan 06 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WpAriDN7qC	Jan 06 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn9e	Jan 06 12:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Summary of 2013 and New Year's list \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 12:42
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iophk	http://www.inquisitr.com/1084493/kim-dotcom-raid-megaupload-founders-mother-held-at-gunpoint-bmw-seized/	Jan 06 14:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.inquisitr.com \| Kim Dotcom Raid: Megaupload Founder’s Mother Held At Gunpoint , BMW Seized [ http://ur1.ca/gcntw ]	Jan 06 14:18
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Sosumi	it is not global warming	Jan 06 14:34
Sosumi	it is weather	Jan 06 14:34
Sosumi	also, bruce schneier joined co3	Jan 06 14:36
Sosumi	http://www.anandtech.com/show/7622/nvidia-tegra-k1	Jan 06 14:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.anandtech.com \| AnandTech \| NVIDIA Tegra K1 Preview & Architecture Analysis [ http://ur1.ca/gcnxt ]	Jan 06 14:37
Sosumi	64bit arm is now the rule	Jan 06 14:37
Sosumi	for as much as I don't like nvidia	Jan 06 14:40
Sosumi	I'd love to see them putting out a cpu destined to the workstation/server market that could compete with xeons	Jan 06 14:41
Sosumi	amd has a cpu+gpu division	Jan 06 14:42
Sosumi	intel too	Jan 06 14:42
Sosumi	and they have become better with time	Jan 06 14:43
Sosumi	only nvidia is kind of left behind	Jan 06 14:43
Sosumi	with intel eating their HPC market	Jan 06 14:44
Sosumi	with the xeon phi card	Jan 06 14:44
Sosumi	actually, back in 2009 there were talks that behind the scenes intel wanted to buy nvidia	Jan 06 14:45
Sosumi	but the deal ended up because Jen-Hsun wanted to stay at the head	Jan 06 14:46
Sosumi	it was also back when intel didn't renew/update the licence with nvidia for the production of nehalem + compatible chipsets	Jan 06 14:48
Sosumi	remember nforce?	Jan 06 14:48
iophk	https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/01/nsa_documents_f.html	Jan 06 14:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.schneier.com \| Schneier on Security: NSA Documents from the Spiegel Story [ http://ur1.ca/gco2l ]	Jan 06 14:53
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/backdoor-in-wireless-dsl-routers-lets-attacker-reset-router-get-admin/	Jan 06 15:05
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Backdoor in wireless DSL routers lets attacker reset router, get admin \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gco5m ]	Jan 06 15:05
Sosumi	similar things have been know since, that I can remember, defcon 17	Jan 06 15:06
Sosumi	back in 2009	Jan 06 15:06
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/linksys-resurrects-classic-blue-router-with-open-source-and-300-price/	Jan 06 16:12
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Linksys resurrects classic blue router, with open source and $300 price \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gcom6 ]	Jan 06 16:12
Sosumi	sdk will be available for custom firmwares	Jan 06 16:12
Sosumi	http://wccftech.com/details-nvidia-geforce-gtx-790-finally-surface-4992-cuda-cores-10-gb-memory-5/	Jan 06 16:13
TechrightsBot-tr	wccftech.com \| Details Regarding Nvidia Geforce GTX 790 Finally Surface - 4992 Cuda Cores and 10 GB of Memory [ http://ur1.ca/gcomg ]	Jan 06 16:13
Sosumi	I wander if it is possible to implement ECC software side	Jan 06 16:14
Sosumi	but that is kind of the router everyone was waiting for	Jan 06 16:15
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Sosumi	RT pulled it again	Jan 06 17:49
Sosumi	pilf time 2.0	Jan 06 17:49
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg6VTzacb9I	Jan 06 17:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| 'Aliens could share more tech with us, if we warmonger less' - Former Canada Defense Minister - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gcp73 ]	Jan 06 17:50
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Sosumi	still, clever way to discredit experimental aircraft	Jan 06 17:59
Sosumi	by putting charades like "aliens" associated with sightings of secret aircraft	Jan 06 18:00
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*Now talking on #techrights		Jan 06 18:07
*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org \| Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell		Jan 06 18:07
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jan 06 18:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines In Mobile, GNU and Linux Victories Are	Jan 06 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	Everywhere, So Microsoft Tries to Interject	Jan 06 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	Itself Into Linux http://t.co/i9aUeckmye	Jan 06 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpne	Jan 06 18:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| In Mobile, GNU and Linux Victories Are Everywhere, So Microsoft Tries to Interject Itself Into Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi: RaspBMC and OpenELEC	Jan 06 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WxeYa6OOhJ	Jan 06 18:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Raspberry Pi: RaspBMC and OpenELEC \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpnf	Jan 06 18:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SnapRAID Yields A New RAID Kernel Library For	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/5ZYA4j58iC	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpyq	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Users Still Have Mixed Feelings Over DNF	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nHjeFNuOEv	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpys	Jan 06 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| SnapRAID Yields A New RAID Kernel Library For Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Already Has A Dozen Steam Machine	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	Partners http://t.co/gihE0xWcVu	Jan 06 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora Users Still Have Mixed Feelings Over DNF \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpyt	Jan 06 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Valve Already Has A Dozen Steam Machine Partners \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google launches the Android-based Open	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	Automotive Alliance with Audi, Honda, GM, and	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	more http://t.co/MZeCLtNYR4	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpyu	Jan 06 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Google launches the Android-based Open Automotive Alliance with Audi, Honda, GM, and more \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android desktops arrive as Lenovo eyes your	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	living room http://t.co/0HFi3PR1tc	Jan 06 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpyv	Jan 06 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Android desktops arrive as Lenovo eyes your living room \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 19:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PC retail rut http://t.co/vkBbasNWLG	Jan 06 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcqa3	Jan 06 20:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| PC retail rut \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 20:23
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iophk	no visible date, but appears fresh:	Jan 06 20:34
iophk	https://ameliaandersdotter.eu/drm-html5	Jan 06 20:34
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TechrightsBot-tr	ameliaandersdotter.eu \| DRM in HTML5 \| Amelia Andersdotter	Jan 06 20:34
iophk	https://ameliaandersdotter.eu/copyright-consultation-model-responses	Jan 06 20:37
TechrightsBot-tr	ameliaandersdotter.eu \| Copyright consultation - model responses \| Amelia Andersdotter [ http://ur1.ca/gcqcp ]	Jan 06 20:37
schestowitz	old	Jan 06 20:40
iophk	frustrating - there is no visible date on it	Jan 06 20:40
schestowitz	some people dont	Jan 06 20:40
schestowitz	'know how to use the Web	Jan 06 20:40
schestowitz	I think I linked to it last year	Jan 06 20:41
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iophk	maybe the twitter gen	Jan 06 20:41
iophk	no date stamps on that either probably	Jan 06 20:42
schestowitz	twitter has timestamps	Jan 06 20:44
iophk	that's a relief	Jan 06 20:44
iophk	the web UI (which sucks) doesn't however	Jan 06 20:45
iophk	what's the best UI for twitter these days?	Jan 06 20:45
iophk	gtg	Jan 06 20:51
Sosumi	tweetdeck for vanilla twitter	Jan 06 20:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KMS Drivers Break The Console In FreeBSD 10	Jan 06 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vsw9pS0Rcj	Jan 06 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcqic	Jan 06 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Arch Linux's First Release of 2014 Is Available	Jan 06 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	for Download http://t.co/tQS0cO2tCj	Jan 06 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcqid	Jan 06 21:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| KMS Drivers Break The Console In FreeBSD 10 \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 21:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Arch Linux's First Release of 2014 Is Available for Download \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Latest Benchmarks Of The Linux 3.13 Kernel	Jan 06 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xLwE4lDoZD	Jan 06 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcqie	Jan 06 21:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The Latest Benchmarks Of The Linux 3.13 Kernel \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 21:07
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Sosumi	http://www.anandtech.com/show/7640/intel-ces-2014-live-blog	Jan 06 22:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.anandtech.com \| AnandTech \| Intel CES 2014 Live Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gcr7t ]	Jan 06 22:38
Sosumi	windows and skype everywere	Jan 06 22:38
MinceR	gn	Jan 06 22:50
Sosumi	gn	Jan 06 23:11
Sosumi	also, don't freeze to death if you're in the US	Jan 06 23:12
DaemonFC	The temperature outside is so low that my baseboard heaters can't keep up with it.	Jan 06 23:16
DaemonFC	I might have to go into the bathroom and turn on the heater fan that's right outside the shower to try to get some more heat.	Jan 06 23:17
Sosumi	you know...	Jan 06 23:18
Sosumi	what about taking a very hot shower	Jan 06 23:18
Sosumi	and then go run naked outside?	Jan 06 23:18
Sosumi	while yelling russian gibberish	Jan 06 23:19
Sosumi	it'd be epic	Jan 06 23:20
Sosumi	it'd kind of be an "iron man challenge"	Jan 06 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VIA Partners With Mozilla For Firefox OS	Jan 06 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/p7a65I3PTH	Jan 06 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcrh4	Jan 06 23:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| VIA Partners With Mozilla For Firefox OS \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 23:25
DaemonFC	Well, it would mean free room and board.	Jan 06 23:30
DaemonFC	Assuming that the police didn't murder me first.	Jan 06 23:30
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Sosumi	:)	Jan 07 00:05
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Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcbVG9fCEAAel8K.jpg	Jan 07 00:10
Sosumi	How to survive the coming ice age	Jan 07 00:10
Sosumi	Time Mag cover of april 1977	Jan 07 00:11
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DaemonFC	Sosumi, That reminds me of the guy that got thrown into a state mental hospital in California, back in the 60s.	Jan 07 01:10
DaemonFC	They figured he was schizophrenic and shouting gibberish, but it turned out to be Hungarian.	Jan 07 01:10
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DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar	Jan 07 02:44
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| United States dollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gcspm ]	Jan 07 02:44
DaemonFC	Is't it kind of hard to measure the relative value of a currency from 1774 to the present?	Jan 07 02:45
DaemonFC	People weren't exactly buying flatscreen televisions, cell phones, and cars in 1774.... :)	Jan 07 02:45
DaemonFC	ALDI has kept their food prices pretty stable.	Jan 07 02:50
DaemonFC	Walmart hasn't.	Jan 07 02:50
DaemonFC	I had to go to Walmart and ALDI anyway the other day, because ALDI ran out of milk, eggs, and bread due to the storm.	Jan 07 02:50
DaemonFC	I'd estimate that for every $1 you spend at ALDI, you'd have to spend about $1.10-$1.15 at Walmart to buy the same items.	Jan 07 02:51
DaemonFC	MinceR, It amuses me that the National Weather Service has to tell people all the ways that cold weather can kill them.	Jan 07 02:53
DaemonFC	"Change out of wet clothes immediately. Wet clothes lose all of their insulation value."	Jan 07 02:54
DaemonFC	Yeah. Like it might not occur to me that wearing wet clothes outside with a wind chill of -40 is a bad idea.	Jan 07 02:54
DaemonFC	People that can't figure that out should die. It's natural selection.	Jan 07 02:55
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/09/balky-carriers-and-slow-oems-step-aside-google-is-defragging-android/	Jan 07 02:56
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Balky carriers and slow OEMs step aside: Google is defragging Android \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fcr2b ]	Jan 07 02:56
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DaemonFC	My screen door froze shut.	Jan 07 03:16
DaemonFC	-15 F / -26 C	Jan 07 03:17
DaemonFC	that's without the wind chill	Jan 07 03:17
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qu1j0t3	DaemonFC \| People weren't exactly buying flatscreen televisions, cell phones,	Jan 07 03:58
qu1j0t3	\| and cars in 1774.... :)	Jan 07 03:58
qu1j0t3	they were buying the equivalents.	Jan 07 03:58
qu1j0t3	whatever dumb stuff somebody could sell to them. exactly zero has chaned.	Jan 07 03:59
qu1j0t3	changed*	Jan 07 03:59
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DaemonFC	http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/01/06/cold_weather_turns_boiling_water_to_snow_eric_holthaus_video_in_wisconsin.html	Jan 07 04:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.slate.com \| Cold weather turns boiling water to snow: Eric Holthaus video in Wisconsin. [ http://ur1.ca/gctae ]	Jan 07 04:52
DaemonFC	I might have to try this.	Jan 07 04:52
DaemonFC	Without the wind chill, it's colder than a supermarket meat freezer out there.	Jan 07 04:56
DaemonFC	You only have to be outside for about 20 seconds for it to suck all the warmth right out of you.	Jan 07 04:56
DaemonFC	Hey, it does work.	Jan 07 05:01
DaemonFC	That's cool.	Jan 07 05:01
DaemonFC	I might have to do that again.	Jan 07 05:01
DaemonFC	A conservative told me that "liberal entitlement programs" (You know...The ones that cut poverty in half and keep Grandma's medication coming) are impossible to shut down.	Jan 07 05:11
DaemonFC	What he didn't mention, as I'm sure most of you are also unaware, is that conservative boondoggles are impossible to shut down. Ronald "Raygun"'s "Star Wars" program hasn't ever done anything except cost money ($400 billion and counting), and it's still going. Bush Jr. renamed this rolling catastrophe of wasted federal spending the "Missile Defense Agency".	Jan 07 05:11
DaemonFC	Like · · Share · about a minute ago · Edited ·	Jan 07 05:11
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DaemonFC	33 seconds ago	Jan 07 05:44
DaemonFC	Whip wants some?	Jan 07 05:44
DaemonFC	dammit	Jan 07 05:45
DaemonFC	autocorrect	Jan 07 05:45
DaemonFC	Who wants some?	Jan 07 05:45
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1546210_179065412303498_1471271048_n.jpg	Jan 07 05:45
DaemonFC	https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1504028_179065425636830_1669747997_n.jpg	Jan 07 05:45
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DaemonFC	I like that....	Jan 07 06:19
DaemonFC	Bill Hicks says to his dad that he can prove that the bible is not the literal word of God.	Jan 07 06:19
DaemonFC	"Give me your bible, and I can prove it!"	Jan 07 06:19
DaemonFC	His dad: "OK"	Jan 07 06:20
DaemonFC	Hicks: "What does it say on the front?"	Jan 07 06:20
DaemonFC	His dad: "Holy Bible"	Jan 07 06:20
DaemonFC	Hicks: "What else does it say?"	Jan 07 06:20
DaemonFC	His Dad: "King James Version"	Jan 07 06:20
DaemonFC	Hicks: "King James's version! Lets take a minute and read King Willie's Version!"	Jan 07 06:21
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MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/iwCxVmj.jpg	Jan 07 07:12
Sosumi	ho lol	Jan 07 07:25
Sosumi	backwards USA	Jan 07 07:26
Sosumi	not seeing that the guy was a foreigner :(	Jan 07 07:26
Sosumi	and ho well, I just woke up and the wind is blowing so hard that if I'm not careful	Jan 07 07:27
Sosumi	I might be carried away by it	Jan 07 07:27
Sosumi	but it's not cold	Jan 07 07:27
Sosumi	it's 20 ºC inside home with no climatization	Jan 07 07:28
Sosumi	15 ºC	Jan 07 07:42
Sosumi	outside	Jan 07 07:42
Sosumi	with some light rain	Jan 07 07:42
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DaemonFC	It's terribly cold outside right now.	Jan 07 08:24
DaemonFC	I haven't left the house since Sunday.	Jan 07 08:25
DaemonFC	I hurried up and went grocery shopping before the storm hit.	Jan 07 08:25
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roy_	https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_379c2e1005302173a799.jpg	Jan 07 08:48
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 07 09:23
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roy_	https://twitter.com/mancow_/status/420496719156350976	Jan 07 10:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@mancow_: @aral @schestowitz from 2010	Jan 07 10:23
roy_	https://twitter.com/mancow_/status/420496719156350976	Jan 07 10:23
roy_	https://twitter.com/sophistifunk/status/420493000809000960	Jan 07 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr	@sophistifunk: @aral @schestowitz appalling, but no longer shocking.	Jan 07 10:24
roy_	https://twitter.com/aral/status/420491790240976896	Jan 07 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr	@aral: RT @schestowitz: Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest http://t.co/1yWmevkRjk WTF? This is shocking.	Jan 07 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.mirror.co.uk \| Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest - Mirror Online	Jan 07 10:24
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3487303	Jan 07 10:27
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:	Jan 07 10:27
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by j_maltez@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_bfae711af7952b94d540.png	Jan 07 10:27
roy_	"I started so that I could follow the path of least resistance, which is often quitting...;-)))"	Jan 07 10:27
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3490733	Jan 07 10:45
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boy-of-12-hauled-out-of-class-268999#.UsvHwp09L6Q.twitter no comment needed. #uk #policestate	Jan 07 10:45
roy_	"Wankers..."	Jan 07 10:45
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roy_	MinceR: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BanDKf0CMAEXElG.jpg:large	Jan 07 10:47
MinceR	+1	Jan 07 10:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Balky carriers and slow OEMs step aside: Google	Jan 07 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	is defragging Android http://t.co/xi9QqfSnJb	Jan 07 11:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Bringing Firefox OS to TVs, Tablets,	Jan 07 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	Desktops http://t.co/BKNwMcw9qO	Jan 07 11:09
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Balky carriers and slow OEMs step aside: Google is defragging Android \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 11:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla Bringing Firefox OS to TVs, Tablets, Desktops \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Developers mull adding data nuke to Kali Linux	Jan 07 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7HN3OzPbjw	Jan 07 11:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Emergency Self Destruction of LUKS in Kali	Jan 07 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OPDHAvN7Ug	Jan 07 11:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LG Bets on WebOS for New Smart TV Line	Jan 07 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UGoDtsGrWc	Jan 07 11:58
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Emergency Self Destruction of LUKS in Kali \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines As Chromebook sales soar, the debate roars	Jan 07 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	about who it hurt http://t.co/HKLPxBYsgJ	Jan 07 11:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| LG Bets on WebOS for New Smart TV Line \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 11:58
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| As Chromebook sales soar, the debate roars about who it hurt \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone Leaked Images Spotted Online	Jan 07 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6iONeKhjz5	Jan 07 11:58
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| First Ubuntu Phone Leaked Images Spotted Online \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt 5.3+ To Have Printing Support Improvements	Jan 07 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xOFizknmJn	Jan 07 11:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pat Pilcher: Windows XP support ending, should	Jan 07 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	we be worried? http://t.co/Btp9MtJAkN	Jan 07 12:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony Class Action Over Linux On PS3 Partially	Jan 07 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	Revived http://t.co/rDBPfZypQ4	Jan 07 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxh	Jan 07 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Creating GNU on UNIX http://t.co/O0BG6YCS4K	Jan 07 12:45
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Pat Pilcher: Windows XP support ending, should we be worried? \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Sony Class Action Over Linux On PS3 Partially Revived \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP takes Android PCs commercial	Jan 07 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/REjABGcIMe	Jan 07 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Creating GNU on UNIX \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:45
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| HP takes Android PCs commercial \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nvidia's Tegra K1 tablet shows a beautiful	Jan 07 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	future for Android gaming	Jan 07 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RlLD1aNzEu	Jan 07 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxl	Jan 07 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Nvidia's Tegra K1 tablet shows a beautiful future for Android gaming \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:45
Sosumi	http://rense.com/1.imagesH/DavidDees-GlobalWarming.Gif	Jan 07 12:48
Sosumi	meanwhile the cold is being the scapegoat for underperforming stock and economic performance not meeting predictions	Jan 07 12:50
Sosumi	also, no unicorns	Jan 07 12:51
Sosumi	but I like cold	Jan 07 12:52
MinceR	there will be plenty of it in europe for a while after the gulf current stops	Jan 07 12:53
Sosumi	if you want me never leaving home, bring the summer	Jan 07 12:53
Sosumi	and I'll never leave my AC unit	Jan 07 12:53
MinceR	yeah, cold can at least be managed via clothing	Jan 07 12:53
MinceR	for hot, it would be nice to have a power armor with AC built-in	Jan 07 12:54
Sosumi	reactive armor	Jan 07 12:54
Sosumi	capable of deflecting radiation	Jan 07 12:54
Sosumi	the folks at fukushima would love one	Jan 07 12:55
Sosumi	and so would I	Jan 07 12:55
Sosumi	because it'd deflect infrared and UV	Jan 07 12:55
Sosumi	and dirty radiation	Jan 07 12:56
Sosumi	from radio and leakage from the electrical wires	Jan 07 12:57
Sosumi	on this case	Jan 07 12:57
Sosumi	it wouldn't be reactive	Jan 07 12:57
Sosumi	but deflective	Jan 07 12:58
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Sosumi	http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,8175.0.html	Jan 07 13:27
TechrightsBot-tr	forum.netkas.org \| Maxed out $10K nMP beats 91% of all computers, but oMP beats 97% OUCH !!!! [ http://ur1.ca/gcxfb ]	Jan 07 13:27
Sosumi	and doesn't suffer from cooling issues	Jan 07 13:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Adding Enginio (qtenginio) to the Qt release	Jan 07 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IYMEWS0vtt	Jan 07 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxh3	Jan 07 13:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Adding Enginio (qtenginio) to the Qt release \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 13:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Frameworks 5 Tech Preview	Jan 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fabDPPWnev	Jan 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxxe	Jan 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A minty fresh start http://t.co/NYfzkrJJZ8	Jan 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxxf	Jan 07 14:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Frameworks 5 Tech Preview \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 14:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| A minty fresh start \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla partners with Panasonic to bring	Jan 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	Firefox OS to the TV, details progress on	Jan 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	tablet and desktop versions	Jan 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Rot03sv2kf	Jan 07 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxxg	Jan 07 14:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla partners with Panasonic to bring Firefox OS to the TV, details progress on tablet and desktop versions \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 14:21
Sosumi	WebOS on LG TVs, Firefox OS on panasonic tvs	Jan 07 14:25
Sosumi	awesome	Jan 07 14:25
Sosumi	now lets hope there's no telemetry tools (aka viewing habits...) inserted by the OEMs	Jan 07 14:27
Sosumi	because other "smartTVs" were already using linux alongside GNU packages	Jan 07 14:29
Sosumi	but with malicious functionality built in	Jan 07 14:29
MinceR	even non-smart ones use linux	Jan 07 14:29
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 07 14:29
Sosumi	all it needs is to have some sort of post processing system to have linux	Jan 07 14:30
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8FdkMqlzco	Jan 07 14:33
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Foz do Douro tempestade Hércules - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gcy18 ]	Jan 07 14:33
MinceR	or to play from usb	Jan 07 14:33
Sosumi	yes, that too and decode the file	Jan 07 14:33
Sosumi	that's how bad coastal weather was yesterday	Jan 07 14:34
Sosumi	0.50 and everyone's running	Jan 07 14:34
Sosumi	run forrest run	Jan 07 14:34
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Sosumi	didn't have the opportunity to go see how bad maritime agitation was in the lower part of lisbon	Jan 07 14:37
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Sosumi	but I can guess it'd be around the same as in that video	Jan 07 14:39
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iophk	Updated 2x	Jan 07 14:57
iophk	http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-uk-porn-filter-blocks-kids-access.html	Jan 07 14:57
TechrightsBot-tr	bsdly.blogspot.com \| That grumpy BSD guy: The UK "Porn" Filter Blocks Kids' Access To Tech, Civil Liberties Websites [ http://ur1.ca/gcy7q ]	Jan 07 14:57
Sosumi	they always use porn as scapegoat for censorship	Jan 07 15:03
iophk	It's the wedge they use to get it accepted.	Jan 07 15:03
Sosumi	I also don't see any problem with porn	Jan 07 15:03
Sosumi	the "kids" will eventually have to know that stuff	Jan 07 15:04
Sosumi	or lets have sexual education, pfff	Jan 07 15:04
Sosumi	so dumb	Jan 07 15:04
MinceR	i don't see any problem with it either	Jan 07 15:06
iophk	http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240212085/Android-set-to-reach-one-billion-users-in-2014	Jan 07 15:11
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerweekly.com \| Android set to reach one billion users in 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gcyc3 ]	Jan 07 15:11
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iophk	http://www.eweek.com/mobile/android-leads-smartphones-sales-ios-share-slides-kantar.html	Jan 07 15:15
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eweek.com \| Android Leads Smartphones Sales, iOS Share Slides: Kantar [ http://ur1.ca/gcyd6 ]	Jan 07 15:15
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Sosumi	http://thenextweb.com/insider/2014/01/07/intel-ceo-brian-krzanich-announces-mcafee-brand-name-will-replaced-intel-security/#!rDKuG	Jan 07 15:56
TechrightsBot-tr	thenextweb.com \| McAfee Brand Name will be Replaced by Intel Security [ http://ur1.ca/gcynr ]	Jan 07 15:56
Sosumi	rofl	Jan 07 15:56
MinceR	InSecurity, for short	Jan 07 15:56
Sosumi	my point exactly :)	Jan 07 15:57
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Sosumi	I guess that at this point, DaemonFC must be trying to dig himself out of his flat	Jan 07 16:34
iophk	"My elation at Intel's decision is beyond words."	Jan 07 16:37
iophk	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25631183	Jan 07 16:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - CES 2014: Director loses direction as teleprompter fails [ http://ur1.ca/gd01w ]	Jan 07 16:37
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3491958	Jan 07 16:55
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember when British newspapers told us this winter would be extremely cold & it would be a white xmas? What crock. Forecasting months b4.	Jan 07 16:55
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schestowitz	"we have 10 plus degrees in Sweden there should be minus 10 at this time..."	Jan 07 16:55
iophk	more of a bad summer than any kind of a winter	Jan 07 16:56
schestowitz	"in the middle of Sweden *"	Jan 07 16:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3491382	Jan 07 16:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Any stories/evidence (other than one article from WSJ) that tablets are turned into listening devices, specifically in the #uk ?	Jan 07 16:57
schestowitz	"Check rms political notes. I remember a serries of links from him a few years ago. The big signs are shortened battery life and the thing being warm even when turned off. I use an ancient Nokia brick to limit the damsge that might be done but I want to move to wifi sip by separate device mifi. Open Moko was supposed to be a clean phone. It will probably be another year or two before it is easy e.nough for me to be able to have a smart	Jan 07 16:57
schestowitz	phone."	Jan 07 16:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3491738	Jan 07 16:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Convert Your Routers and Hubs to Free Software in Order to Dodge Back Doors http://techrights.org/2014/01/07/routers-and-hubs-back-doors/ #freesw #privacy #bt #cisco #belkin	Jan 07 16:57
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Convert Your Routers and Hubs to Free Software in Order to Dodge Back Doors \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gd0qo ]	Jan 07 16:57
schestowitz	"a new software solution related: https://diasp.org/posts/2636379"	Jan 07 16:57
TechrightsBot-tr	diasp.org \| Dowse : a minimal...	Jan 07 16:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3490813	Jan 07 16:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fox 'news' speaks to a #drone assassin who killed thousands (mostly innocent). Notice how he smiles. http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/3020757926001/us-government-dishonest-about-drone-use/?playlist_id=937116489001	Jan 07 16:57
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 404 @ http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/3020757926001/us-government-dishonest-about-drone-use/?playlist_id=937116489001 )	Jan 07 16:57
schestowitz	"The 'smile' is where he is trying very hard to join 'the other side' mixed with a slightly nervous laughter..... in my opinion....his words are the important part."	Jan 07 16:57
schestowitz	words are cheaper than emotion	Jan 07 16:58
Sosumi	he's disconnected from the reality, probably for him it's like playing a game	Jan 07 16:59
Sosumi	if the drone gets trashed they'll just hand him another one	Jan 07 17:00
Sosumi	aka respawn	Jan 07 17:00
Sosumi	next they need field drones	Jan 07 17:03
Sosumi	or hybrid drones, that can operate in the air (remote deployment) and on the soil	Jan 07 17:04
Sosumi	powered exoskeletons would be nice too	Jan 07 17:05
Sosumi	specially if they pump the troops with stimulants	Jan 07 17:05
Sosumi	ofc that despiste my colorful ideas,	Jan 07 17:06
Sosumi	I'm just being sarcastic	Jan 07 17:06
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3490813	Jan 07 17:10
schestowitz	":)"	Jan 07 17:10
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3486196	Jan 07 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: *Another happy little dog. It's the sunday funny day!*	Jan 07 17:11
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_844fbcf071e4ed3f8120.gif	Jan 07 17:11
schestowitz	"Which means he's intelligent ... or not playful"	Jan 07 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/1cSqV1Byf1	Jan 07 17:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/VTIUysyu0L	Jan 07 17:13
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/WGTHvl1Ylo	Jan 07 17:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 17:13
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 17:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/xJ3R715qIN	Jan 07 17:13
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 17:13
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iophk	http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11182498	Jan 07 17:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nzherald.co.nz \| FBI lead officer speaks out about Dotcom case - National - NZ Herald News [ http://ur1.ca/gd29j ]	Jan 07 17:42
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iophk	http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/07/technology/social/zuckerberg-files/	Jan 07 18:11
TechrightsBot-tr	money.cnn.com \| The Zuckerberg Files: Here's everything Mark Zuckerberg has ever said - Jan. 7, 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gd2p3 ]	Jan 07 18:11
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iophk	"Zuckerberg has said "privacy" and "private" only 68 times in public since 2009. "	Jan 07 18:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Putting Chromebook Sales in Proper Perspective	Jan 07 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xd1zaZr0Sx	Jan 07 18:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Putting Chromebook Sales in Proper Perspective \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 18:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu developer builds Pirate Bay torrent	Jan 07 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	search into operating system	Jan 07 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ylAwSaraJY	Jan 07 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gd2y6	Jan 07 18:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu developer builds Pirate Bay torrent search into operating system \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 18:54
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iophk	http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/us-ces-intel-mcafee-idUSBREA060YM20140107	Jan 07 20:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.reuters.com \| John McAfee says glad Intel dropping his name from security software \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gd3m6 ]	Jan 07 20:45
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Sosumi	another virtual currency	Jan 07 21:13
Sosumi	coinye	Jan 07 21:13
Sosumi	lol	Jan 07 21:13
Sosumi	say it on a loop and it'll sound more and more to Koni	Jan 07 21:14
MinceR	west?	Jan 07 21:14
Sosumi	and if you're portuguese you'll probably spell it as cona-ye	Jan 07 21:15
Sosumi	no, the thing with "Clownye" West was because of it sounding similar to his name	Jan 07 21:16
MinceR	:)	Jan 07 21:17
Sosumi	I think I'll register a domain called clownyewest.com	Jan 07 21:17
Sosumi	make a big fuss about it	Jan 07 21:17
Sosumi	and then ask for 1 million dollars to take it down/give ownership to the real "clownye" west	Jan 07 21:18
Sosumi	http://d2oadd98wnjs7n.cloudfront.net/file_attachments/42435/files/20130830043612-Dr._Evil_1_million_dollars.gif?1377862572	Jan 07 21:19
Sosumi	also asus to trow in more affordable 4k displays	Jan 07 21:21
Sosumi	but I'd love a single ultra wide 21:9 4k display	Jan 07 21:21
Sosumi	in a 32 inches format	Jan 07 21:21
Sosumi	that'd be ok to replace my dual 24 inch displays	Jan 07 21:22
Sosumi	but one of thing I came to hate with dual displays is that one of them	Jan 07 21:22
Sosumi	usually the secondary one	Jan 07 21:23
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Sosumi	ends up with burns all over it	Jan 07 21:23
Sosumi	since it is displaying static content all the time	Jan 07 21:23
Sosumi	and is not used to watch video or play some game	Jan 07 21:23
Sosumi	and yes, mine is burned	Jan 07 21:24
Sosumi	both are HP LP2475w	Jan 07 21:24
Sosumi	featuring LG IPS panels	Jan 07 21:24
Sosumi	which are actually known for being easy to burn in	Jan 07 21:24
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Sosumi	so my focus displays has only a slight burn	Jan 07 21:25
Sosumi	while the other has burns all over it	Jan 07 21:25
Sosumi	and ofc, both are "properly" calibrated and used at 50% brightness	Jan 07 21:26
Sosumi	also, if you want to run more than 1 4k display	Jan 07 21:28
Sosumi	at 60Hz	Jan 07 21:28
Sosumi	you're going to need display port	Jan 07 21:28
Sosumi	and no nvidia card atm is coming with more than 1	Jan 07 21:29
Sosumi	only amd seems to care about it	Jan 07 21:29
Sosumi	which is sad	Jan 07 21:29
Sosumi	since there's no point to have hdmi or mini hdmi on video cards	Jan 07 21:29
Sosumi	since display port can do audio too	Jan 07 21:29
Sosumi	and be converted	Jan 07 21:29
Sosumi	but the ideal, would actually be getting rid of the dual DVI ports	Jan 07 21:30
Sosumi	for display port	Jan 07 21:30
Sosumi	and just use and adaptor if the necessary	Jan 07 21:30
MinceR	also, the McAfee video on uninstalling is awesome	Jan 07 22:19
MinceR	http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140107/AUTO01/301070017	Jan 07 22:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.detroitnews.com \| Carmakers keep data on drivers' locations \| The Detroit News [ http://ur1.ca/gd4br ]	Jan 07 22:40
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Sosumi	DaemonFC, buried in snow?	Jan 07 23:05
DaemonFC	Seems that way.	Jan 07 23:15
DaemonFC	I haven't been outside today, but it still looks bad.	Jan 07 23:15
MinceR	gn	Jan 07 23:16
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Viper550	MPAA joined W3C	Jan 07 23:22
MinceR	about time	Jan 07 23:23
MinceR	to join drm fan tim berners-lee	Jan 07 23:24
DaemonFC	I posted this to Facebook.	Jan 07 23:37
DaemonFC	The World Wide Web Consortium has just announced that it has lost all credibility as a web standards committee. It has allowed the Motion Picture Association of America in as a member, and it is considering adding Digital Restrictions Malware that Apple, Microsoft, Google, and Netflix asked for as a "standard".	Jan 07 23:37
DaemonFC	Now, it's clear that Chris Dodd, the former Senator turned MPAA kingpin is now running the W3C. Dodd was the most corrupt Senator in history. After profiteering from the Countrywide Mortgage scandal, then taking MPAA/RIAA bribes to introduce SOPA, he resigned and was immediately offered his current position at the MPAA.	Jan 07 23:37
DaemonFC	He belongs behind bars. If they ever brought charges against Dodd for even half of the felonies that he has committed, he would never see the light of day again.	Jan 07 23:37
DaemonFC	Digital Restrictions Malware is not, can not, and never will be an open standard, because as soon as you tell people how it works, it no longer does work.	Jan 07 23:37
DaemonFC	It's obvious now, that when the W3C allowed the Electronic Frontier Foundation and Mozilla to join, it did it to provide cover for this assault on our freedom. Apple, Microsoft, Google, Netflix, and Opera can out-vote and strongarm these watchdogs of freedom, so they were never going to be allowed to successfully oppose the corporate malware.	Jan 07 23:37
DaemonFC	There's too much corporate influence at W3C and their existing open standards need to be forked, and a new non-profit web standards agency needs to be created. I think it should be the Mozilla Foundation.	Jan 07 23:37
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 01:29
DaemonFC	I don't talk about Duck Dynasty much. Everyone that is capable of understanding what a crock of **** religious fundamentalism is already understands what it is.	Jan 08 01:29
DaemonFC	Talking about these things just plays into their hands. They wanted some free publicity. They knew that their hardcore far-right wing ****head fans would go out and buy their stuff because they want to support bigotry. The mind of a fundie isn't really that complicated.	Jan 08 01:29
DaemonFC	The Duck Dynasty guys are millionaires, and they're not dumb. They know they can make even more money by pulling the strings of simpletons. Where do you see their merchandise? Walmart. Where does trash love to shop? Walmart. OK then. We've figured out who buys this stuff.	Jan 08 01:29
DaemonFC	I understand that Walmart sells Apple products now. They're made in factories that force women to have abortions, where several workers commit suicide every day. Right-wing Christians love Apple. There's a lot of hypocrisy coming from right-wing Christians. Do you expect anything they say or do to make sense? You're going to be waiting around for a long time, and you're going to be really disappointed.	Jan 08 01:29
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 01:35
DaemonFC	On the other hand, Apple is talking about moving some of their Mac PC assembly back to the United States. They shut down the last plant that made desktop Macs (the PowerMac models) back in 2002.	Jan 08 01:35
DaemonFC	Amazingly, in just a little over a decade, wages in China and fuel costs have gone up enough, and wage and hour standards in the US have declined enough, that opening assembly plants in the US is profitable again. The jobs start at $9 an hour, which is like $6.95 an hour in 2002 Dollars.	Jan 08 01:35
DaemonFC	Apple plans to open mini-plants with less than 50 workers so they aren't covered by the the family medical leave act, and can quickly shut down if the workers try to organize for better pay.	Jan 08 01:35
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schestowitz	https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2616/4014256437_c52777a4c0_z.jpg	Jan 08 02:14
schestowitz	[23:27] <MinceR> to join drm fan tim berners-lee	Jan 08 02:23
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 08 02:23
schestowitz	who joins who? :-)	Jan 08 02:23
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schestowitz	MinceR: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/01/hungary-after-communism/	Jan 08 02:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.jacobinmag.com \| Hungary After Communism \| Jacobin [ http://ur1.ca/gd5ec ]	Jan 08 02:31
schestowitz	"The party’s leader, Viktor Orbán, is the most memorable of the former Communist regime’s opponents, described at the time of its 1989 overthrow by historian Timothy Garton Ash as the “fiery, black-bearded” activist who was the only speaker at dissident leader Imre Nagy’s reburial to inspire a heated response from the restive crowd. “Of all the leaders of the post-Communist era, he’s the only one they’ll build a statue	Jan 08 02:31
schestowitz	of,” as one journalist told me."	Jan 08 02:31
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Snowleaksange	http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/the-danger-of-nsa-spying-on-members-of-congress/282827/	Jan 08 05:34
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theatlantic.com \| The Danger of NSA Spying on Members of Congress - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/gd6zv ]	Jan 08 05:34
Snowleaksange	http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/01/07/california-legislators-introduce-bill-to-banish-nsa	Jan 08 05:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.usnews.com \| California Legislators Introduce Bill To Banish NSA - US News and World Report [ http://ur1.ca/gd73h ]	Jan 08 05:49
DaemonFC	I was hoping that Chrome for Android would support extensions.	Jan 08 05:53
DaemonFC	It's not a hell of a lot better than the stock Android browser.	Jan 08 05:53
DaemonFC	It allows Google to update their rendering engine separately from the system's version, but that's about all it does.	Jan 08 05:54
DaemonFC	It doesn't support extensions, and there's no way to block ads and other annoyances.	Jan 08 05:54
DaemonFC	Things that can be annoying on a desktop web browser, such as pop ups and pop unders, are much worse when you're browsing the web on a phone or tablet.	Jan 08 05:54
DaemonFC	And, Firefox is the only browser for Android that lets you install an ad blocking plugin.	Jan 08 05:55
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Snowleaksange	just sent 500 bucks each to ted lieu and joel anderson, the cali senators who authored bill denying nsa material support from cali	Jan 08 06:10
Snowleaksange	finally someone representing me	Jan 08 06:10
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MinceR	schestowitz: orban was always such a great enemy of communism that he joined KISZ, the youth organization of MSZMS	Jan 08 06:43
MinceR	schestowitz: orban was always such a great enemy of communism that he joined KISZ, the youth organization of MSZMP, the communist state party	Jan 08 06:43
MinceR	and his actions are reminiscent of what the commie dictators like rakosi did	Jan 08 06:43
MinceR	he, like many others, were socialized in the commie dictatorship and can't think of any other way to run a country	Jan 08 06:44
MinceR	also, i think that his supposedly liberal act was merely an act	Jan 08 06:47
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MinceR	"The government is trying to make up the lost revenues with a bastardized version of the Tobin tax"	Jan 08 06:53
MinceR	they actually created lots of new taxes	Jan 08 06:53
MinceR	and increased VAT to the highest in the EU	Jan 08 06:53
MinceR	but most of the childish savages that live in this joke of a country probably still believe that the nazis "lowered the taxes"	Jan 08 06:54
Sosumi	the Tobin tax is about taxing financial transaction at the stock exchange	Jan 08 06:54
MinceR	"liberal party, the Alliance of Free Democrats"	Jan 08 06:55
Sosumi	and that also means the killing of HFT and some kinds of derivatives	Jan 08 06:55
MinceR	any party that votes in favor of criminalizing holocaust denial is against freedom of speech, and as such, is not a "liberal party"	Jan 08 06:55
MinceR	hungarians have no idea what liberalism is	Jan 08 06:55
Sosumi	which I am all for it	Jan 08 06:55
Sosumi	actually, I'm all for banning derivatives	Jan 08 06:56
MinceR	afaik these so-called "liberals" also voted for the "objective responsibility" law, which was the first blow against rule of law	Jan 08 06:56
MinceR	Sosumi: they're actually taxing pretty much all bank transactions	Jan 08 06:56
MinceR	and not using the money to insure the banks	Jan 08 06:56
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Sosumi	not in here	Jan 08 07:04
Sosumi	we still have no financial transaction tax	Jan 08 07:04
Sosumi	the nearest country to actually have one is italy	Jan 08 07:04
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Sosumi	also the kind of liberalism you see around is a decadent-liberalism	Jan 08 07:05
Sosumi	the real liberalism could be said that it started with jefferson, Ben Franklin, Hamilton and son on	Jan 08 07:06
Sosumi	*so on	Jan 08 07:06
Sosumi	this kind of liberalism you see today is the rejection of all morals	Jan 08 07:06
Sosumi	and that is why you merger between the private powers and public office	Jan 08 07:07
Sosumi	also the revolving door	Jan 08 07:07
Sosumi	and criminalizing holocaust denial?	Jan 08 07:08
Sosumi	lol, that equals, if you criticize the official story, you immediately get labeled as a denier	Jan 08 07:09
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 07:09
Sosumi	and those holocaust numbers are way off and so is much of rethoric about it	Jan 08 07:09
MinceR	it also means that the government decides what people are supposed to believe	Jan 08 07:09
Sosumi	in most cases it was to instill guilt into the germans in order to just comply and be ashamed	Jan 08 07:10
Sosumi	stallin and mao	Jan 08 07:10
MinceR	and instead of supplying the existing proof, the response to holocaust denial is to turn it into something that looks like some secret truth the government is afraid of	Jan 08 07:10
Sosumi	killed way more ppl than the shicklegruber guy	Jan 08 07:10
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 07:10
MinceR	though they were not as proud of it as the schicklgruber guy	Jan 08 07:11
MinceR	they tried to hide a lot of it	Jan 08 07:11
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 08 07:11
MinceR	for example, they tried to pretend that the nazis did the katyn massacre	Jan 08 07:12
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Sosumi	yeah I read about that and a ton of other conflicting stories	Jan 08 07:17
Sosumi	there was also the Augustów roundup	Jan 08 07:19
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DaemonFC	http://stallman.org/archives/2013-nov-feb.html#06_January_2014_%28US_gov%27t_goes_to_cruel_extremes_to_collect_college_debt%29	Jan 08 07:48
TechrightsBot-tr	stallman.org \| 2013: November - February Political Notes - Richard Stallman [ http://ur1.ca/gd7s3 ]	Jan 08 07:48
DaemonFC	"a large part of these debts were for payments to for-profit colleges that tend to be a waste of money in the first place."	Jan 08 07:48
DaemonFC	The Art Institute	Jan 08 07:48
DaemonFC	http://petapixel.com/2011/09/02/us-gov-sues-the-art-institutes-for-11-billion-fraud/	Jan 08 07:49
TechrightsBot-tr	petapixel.com \| US Gov Sues The Art Institutes for $11 Billion Fraud [ http://ur1.ca/gd7sc ]	Jan 08 07:49
DaemonFC	Someone I know went there and ended up with no job and lots of debt.	Jan 08 07:49
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DaemonFC	http://networkedblogs.com/SDdaz	Jan 08 08:15
TechrightsBot-tr	networkedblogs.com \| Welcoming the CentOS Community to the Red Hat family.	Jan 08 08:15
DaemonFC	Red Hat is now sponsoring the CentOS project.	Jan 08 08:16
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Might want to include that in your links.	Jan 08 08:16
DaemonFC	http://community.redhat.com/centos-faq/	Jan 08 08:16
TechrightsBot-tr	community.redhat.com \| Red Hat + CentOS — Red Hat Open Source Community	Jan 08 08:16
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 08:33
DaemonFC	Right-wing Christians: "God created everything and everyone!"	Jan 08 08:33
DaemonFC	Everything and everyone?	Jan 08 08:33
DaemonFC	Right-wing Christians: "That's right!"	Jan 08 08:33
DaemonFC	Even Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 08:33
DaemonFC	Right-wing Christians: "Err, uhhm, uhhhh...."	Jan 08 08:33
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MinceR	lol	Jan 08 09:06
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DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1601485_702071639814704_1112690263_n.jpg	Jan 08 09:16
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 09:18
MinceR	geekings	Jan 08 09:19
schestowitz	DaemonFC: centos?	Jan 08 09:24
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 08 09:32
DaemonFC	MinceR, Did God create everything or did God not create Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 09:39
DaemonFC	I'm confused.	Jan 08 09:39
DaemonFC	Who created Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 09:39
MinceR	DaemonFC: "God" doesn't exist, never did, and neither do those particular hypothetical "Adam" and "Steve"	Jan 08 09:39
DaemonFC	I know. I mean, Christians say that God created everything.	Jan 08 09:40
MinceR	:>	Jan 08 09:40
DaemonFC	But they also say that God did not create Adam and Steve.	Jan 08 09:40
DaemonFC	So, who created Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 09:40
DaemonFC	And if he didn't create Adam and Steve, is there a particular Adam and Steve that he didn't create, or does this apply to anyone named Adam or Steve?	Jan 08 09:41
MinceR	ask a christian :>	Jan 08 09:41
DaemonFC	Does it include my uncle Steve?	Jan 08 09:41
DaemonFC	Why would parents name their children Adam or Steve? Wouldn't they want God to approve of their children?	Jan 08 09:41
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 08 09:41
MinceR	i certainly wouldn't	Jan 08 09:47
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 11:32
DaemonFC	If the Republicans want to do us the ultimate favor, I'd suggest that they line up to perform Seppuku, one by one, live on C-SPAN. It's really the least that they owe the American people at this point.	Jan 08 11:32
DaemonFC	Failing that, someone can send Senator Rand Paul some of Kentucky's finest crystal meth. The stuff brewed up by desperate unemployed coal miners that lost their job due to natural gas and then had their unemployment insurance cut, as Senator Paul said, as a "favor" to them. They could mix it into his coffee. It would provide us with at least several minutes of entertainment as he runs through the Senate chamber, tweaking and puking his guts	Jan 08 11:32
DaemonFC	out.	Jan 08 11:32
Sosumi	didn't allah create everything?	Jan 08 11:34
Sosumi	dum christians :)	Jan 08 11:34
Sosumi	*dumb	Jan 08 11:35
MinceR	"allah" is just "god" in arabic	Jan 08 11:37
MinceR	afaik	Jan 08 11:37
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MinceR	(and therefore refers to yahweh all the same)	Jan 08 11:38
Sosumi	I was just trolling	Jan 08 11:39
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Sosumi	http://www.macrumors.com/2014/01/08/ces-2014-flir-systems-debuts-flir-one-thermal-camera-case-for-iphone-5s-and-iphone-5/	Jan 08 11:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.macrumors.com \| CES 2014: FLIR Systems Debuts 'FLIR ONE' Thermal Camera Case for iPhone 5s and iPhone 5 - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gd8w1 ]	Jan 08 11:40
Sosumi	it's for the hypephone	Jan 08 11:40
Sosumi	but, that means you'll finally be able to see thermal signatures on a numberpad lock	Jan 08 11:41
Sosumi	like sam fisher from splinter cell :P	Jan 08 11:41
MinceR	still doesn't make it worth buying a hypePhone	Jan 08 11:41
Sosumi	well you can always punch someone in the face and get his	Jan 08 11:42
Sosumi	or politely ask a friend for his older model	Jan 08 11:42
MinceR	or just look for an equivalent that doesn't require a hypePhone	Jan 08 11:43
Sosumi	that too	Jan 08 11:43
MinceR	or just hack a camera, remove the IR filter	Jan 08 11:43
DaemonFC	"That's strange. According to these readings, your body is at room temperature. Oh wait, my phone froze again. Shit."	Jan 08 11:44
Sosumi	the ideal, would be some googles capable of night vision and thermal	Jan 08 11:44
MinceR	lol	Jan 08 11:44
Sosumi	ninjas are cool and penetration testing is fun	Jan 08 11:45
Sosumi	even if you do it for the kicks	Jan 08 11:45
Sosumi	plus this isn't the US and you wont get shot	Jan 08 11:46
DaemonFC	I pointed out on Amazon Forums that I had sex, dated, and used drugs when I was a teenager.	Jan 08 11:46
DaemonFC	It was a post I made about the UK's porn censor.	Jan 08 11:46
Sosumi	security guards don't even carry guns	Jan 08 11:46
DaemonFC	I said "...and I had a really great time. Sorry!"	Jan 08 11:46
Sosumi	at most you get chased down, but if you're not slacker you'll be able to outrun them	Jan 08 11:46
Sosumi	lol	Jan 08 11:47
MinceR	slacker? i don't even know 'er!	Jan 08 11:47
Sosumi	I meant slacker in the kind of staying in shape	Jan 08 11:47
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 11:47
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MinceR	that shape could be round	Jan 08 11:48
Sosumi	terminator shape	Jan 08 11:48
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 11:48
DaemonFC	I posted on Amazon Forums:	Jan 08 12:28
DaemonFC	When you get a right-wing extremist, they're setting fire to gay bars, trying to make sure that the next Adam Lanza can get an uzi, and trying to murder Congressmen.	Jan 08 12:28
DaemonFC	When you get a left-wing extremist, Bernie Sanders talks about expanding Social Security benefits and increasing the minimum wage to $10.	Jan 08 12:28
DaemonFC	Gee. Let me think.... Who do I want running this country?	Jan 08 12:28
DaemonFC	http://www.nbcnews.com/id/53999212#.Uswl4fvfjd4	Jan 08 12:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nbcnews.com \| Ex-Cops Faked Disabilities: DA - Local News - New York, NY \| NBC News [ http://ur1.ca/gd95c ]	Jan 08 12:44
DaemonFC	The cops said that they couldn't shop or drive, and then they posted pictures of themselves on jet skis while they were buying shit with their credit cards.	Jan 08 12:45
DaemonFC	The government got most of its evidence from Facebook posts from the "disabled" cops.	Jan 08 12:45
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DaemonFC	I was watching a Mr. Bean video on Youtube yesterday.	Jan 08 13:13
DaemonFC	It was the Christmas one. He's in a department store and playing around with a nativity scene.	Jan 08 13:13
DaemonFC	He attacks it with a toy dalek and T-Rex.	Jan 08 13:14
DaemonFC	That was the funniest thing I've seen in a while.	Jan 08 13:14
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fewt	Bernie Sanders is a smart guy	Jan 08 13:27
fewt	he makes a lot of sense	Jan 08 13:27
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MinceR	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/	Jan 08 13:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.wired.com \| OnStar Tracks Your Car Even When You Cancel Service \| Threat Level \| Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/gd9iy ]	Jan 08 13:59
iophk	http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2321676/red-hat-partners-with-centos-to-drive-open-source-innovation-in-cloud	Jan 08 14:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.v3.co.uk \| Red Hat partners with CentOS to drive open source innovation in cloud - IT News from V3.co.uk [ http://ur1.ca/gd9no ]	Jan 08 14:32
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iophk	"Yahoo Tech, another magazine, is helmed by former New York Times tech columnist David Pogue, who came onstage to launch the new site."	Jan 08 14:46
iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/kate-couric-vs-david-pogue-who-will-be-the-new-face-of-yahoo/2014/01/07/3b306db6-77eb-11e3-af7f-13bf0e9965f6_story.html	Jan 08 14:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| Kate Couric vs. David Pogue: Who will be the new face of Yahoo? - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/gd9qm ]	Jan 08 14:46
Sosumi	http://gizmodo.com/i-wore-the-new-oculus-rift-and-i-never-want-to-look-at-1496569598	Jan 08 14:49
TechrightsBot-tr	gizmodo.com \| I Wore the New Oculus Rift and I Never Want to Look at Real Life Again [ http://ur1.ca/gd9r3 ]	Jan 08 14:49
Sosumi	oculus rift would be awesome if you could actually use it as a display replacement	Jan 08 14:50
Sosumi	and aside the head tracking feature they built in now	Jan 08 14:51
Sosumi	it needs brain sensors so that you can control basic desktop functionality with thought	Jan 08 14:52
Sosumi	kind of like zooming in/out a virtual desktop	Jan 08 14:52
Sosumi	display all the virtual desktops	Jan 08 14:52
Sosumi	namely, window manipulation	Jan 08 14:52
Sosumi	I've already had folks complaining that they wouldn't be able to see their keyboards	Jan 08 14:53
Sosumi	but hey, I type without looking at my kb	Jan 08 14:54
Sosumi	DAS also has a KB without key prints	Jan 08 14:54
MinceR	others do too	Jan 08 14:54
Sosumi	and some keyprints on my KB are so vanished that I really don't care either	Jan 08 14:54
MinceR	iirc das uses crappy costar stabilizers, though	Jan 08 14:54
Sosumi	duno	Jan 08 14:55
Sosumi	I kind of only like the steelseries 7g	Jan 08 14:55
Sosumi	which is the model I have	Jan 08 14:55
Sosumi	and it feels excelent to type on it	Jan 08 14:56
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MinceR	i like my cherry ML-based cherry keyboards and my logitech G710+	Jan 08 14:56
Sosumi	mine has cherry mx black	Jan 08 14:56
MinceR	the latter has mx brown	Jan 08 14:57
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iophk	http://www.ibtimes.com/wall-street-journal-closes-allthingsd-tech-news-section-replaced-wsjd-founders-launch-recode-1530428	Jan 08 15:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.com \| Wall Street Journal Closes AllThingsD: Tech News Section Replaced By WSJD; Founders Launch Re/Code [ http://ur1.ca/gd9tj ]	Jan 08 15:05
Sosumi	does that kb need drivers?	Jan 08 15:05
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Sosumi	I actually went for the 7g because of it being ps/2 and not needing any drivers for working	Jan 08 15:06
Sosumi	and I kind of prefer mx black keys	Jan 08 15:06
Sosumi	because they feel just right	Jan 08 15:06
MinceR	the g710+ works without extra drivers, though it does enter some numbers when plugged in or unplugged without the driver	Jan 08 15:07
MinceR	i was too lazy to install the driver	Jan 08 15:07
Sosumi	is there any driver for linux at all? :)	Jan 08 15:07
MinceR	i prefer usb for hotplug and mx brown (or ml, or blue) so i can feel where the switching happens	Jan 08 15:07
MinceR	yes there is	Jan 08 15:07
Sosumi	I just prefer ps/2 because of the cpu overhead of usb	Jan 08 15:08
Sosumi	and ps/2 is hot plug in some boards	Jan 08 15:08
MinceR	most of my computers don't even have ps/2 ports	Jan 08 15:09
Sosumi	lol	Jan 08 15:09
MinceR	also, what boards support ps/2 hotplug?	Jan 08 15:10
MinceR	and won't it still damage the keyboard controller?	Jan 08 15:10
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 08 15:10
Sosumi	but at least I remember the asus p4c800 deluxe	Jan 08 15:11
Sosumi	allowing that on both mouse and kb port	Jan 08 15:11
Sosumi	haven't tested it on my asus rampage 4 e	Jan 08 15:12
Sosumi	and those laptops from the past	Jan 08 15:14
Sosumi	also allowed hot plugging of ps/2 stuff	Jan 08 15:14
Sosumi	even my compaq armada did that	Jan 08 15:14
MinceR	and how do you know that the asus p4c800 supports ps/2 hotplug?	Jan 08 15:15
Sosumi	I had one	Jan 08 15:15
Sosumi	and remember hot plugging both mouse and kb once	Jan 08 15:15
MinceR	did it say it supported it or did it just not fry itself when you did it?	Jan 08 15:15
Sosumi	it said hot plugging in the same way they say hot plugging for USB	Jan 08 15:16
Sosumi	not a single word	Jan 08 15:16
Sosumi	I just did it	Jan 08 15:16
MinceR	so you just got lucky	Jan 08 15:16
MinceR	usb officially supports hotplugging	Jan 08 15:16
Sosumi	I see that now	Jan 08 15:18
Sosumi	it comes up with the quality of the controler	Jan 08 15:18
Sosumi	but it should be avoided	Jan 08 15:18
Sosumi	only did it once on that mobo when I received both new kb and mice	Jan 08 15:21
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 15:21
Sosumi	as for the laptop, I did it with a mouse, countless of times and I've seen ppl also doing it tons of times	Jan 08 15:22
Sosumi	and I've never heard anyone complaining	Jan 08 15:23
iophk	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2429236,00.asp	Jan 08 15:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcmag.com \| Microsoft Xbox #Fail \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/gd9wz ]	Jan 08 15:23
MinceR	m$ fails at making hardware, what a surprise	Jan 08 15:23
iophk	maybe the fires are less frequent though	Jan 08 15:24
Sosumi	ppl have got to be dumb to buy consoles	Jan 08 15:24
Sosumi	cheap and crippled drm boxes	Jan 08 15:24
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 15:25
Sosumi	and even the ps3 broke	Jan 08 15:25
MinceR	well, except for some independent "consoles"	Jan 08 15:25
iophk	ps3 breaking was intentional	Jan 08 15:25
MinceR	like the pandora	Jan 08 15:25
Sosumi	with the first casualty being the blu-ray drive	Jan 08 15:25
Sosumi	the second was the solder	Jan 08 15:25
Sosumi	needing ppl to go grab heat guns	Jan 08 15:26
Sosumi	and reflux the solder	Jan 08 15:26
iophk	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/playstation-3-other-os-saga-jailbreaking-not-crime	Jan 08 15:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eff.org \| PlayStation 3 "Other OS" Saga Shows: Jailbreaking Is Not a Crime \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/gd9xo ]	Jan 08 15:26
Sosumi	if you really want to game, get a decent computer and boot winblows just for that	Jan 08 15:26
MinceR	unless it runs on gnu/linux :>	Jan 08 15:27
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 08 15:27
Sosumi	and sony killed the other OS because ppl found ways to get to the RSX	Jan 08 15:28
iophk	http://www.itproportal.com/2010/04/29/sony-being-sued-over-other-os-removal/	Jan 08 15:28
Sosumi	which was basically a crippled 7800 GT	Jan 08 15:28
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itproportal.com \| Sony being sued over Other OS removal \| ITProPortal.com [ http://ur1.ca/gd9y0 ]	Jan 08 15:28
Sosumi	anyone remembers E3 2006?	Jan 08 15:28
iophk	E3?	Jan 08 15:29
Sosumi	not 2006, 2005	Jan 08 15:29
Sosumi	yeah E3	Jan 08 15:29
Sosumi	Electronic Entertainment Expo	Jan 08 15:30
Sosumi	CES of video games	Jan 08 15:30
Sosumi	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g1fr5vk72M	Jan 08 15:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Giant Enemy Crab! Massive Damage mix - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gd9yn ]	Jan 08 15:31
Sosumi	all I can remember was this	Jan 08 15:31
Sosumi	lawl	Jan 08 15:31
Sosumi	that game told me that in ancient japan there were giant crabs	Jan 08 15:32
Sosumi	and that you had to flip them in order to deliver MASSIVE DAMAGE	Jan 08 15:32
MinceR	i thought you had to do 50 or more points to deliver massive damage :>	Jan 08 15:33
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 08 15:33
MinceR	(D&D reference)	Jan 08 15:33
Sosumi	ask the dev or someone with the game	Jan 08 15:33
Sosumi	not really a fan of D&D	Jan 08 15:33
Sosumi	actually I've never bothered to check anything about D&D	Jan 08 15:34
iophk	http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/08/china-smoking-idINL3N0KI2SW20140108	Jan 08 15:34
TechrightsBot-tr	in.reuters.com \| China aims to ban smoking in public places by end of the year \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gd9z7 ]	Jan 08 15:34
Sosumi	that is ok, just because someone likes to be a human chimney doesn't mean that I like or want to take with his smoke	Jan 08 15:35
Sosumi	and end up with my clothes smelling funny	Jan 08 15:35
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 15:35
MinceR	and they like to choose the highest traffic areas too	Jan 08 15:36
Sosumi	in here, if ppl want to smoke, they either do it outside or go to special room	Jan 08 15:36
MinceR	same here, but when outside, they still like to blow it onto other people	Jan 08 15:37
MinceR	as if not having a roof above you made it ok	Jan 08 15:38
iophk	usually they choose to stand upwind when they can	Jan 08 15:38
iophk	so that the smoke blows over other people	Jan 08 15:38
Sosumi	I've seen that	Jan 08 15:38
Sosumi	but never happened to me	Jan 08 15:38
Sosumi	could you consider someone blowing toxic smoke on your face being considered an aggression?	Jan 08 15:39
MinceR	i suppose so	Jan 08 15:39
MinceR	also, hungarians are probably more barbaric than western europeans	Jan 08 15:39
Sosumi	how so?	Jan 08 15:40
MinceR	for example, they've decided on their own to go back to dictatorship	Jan 08 15:41
Sosumi	ho lol	Jan 08 15:42
MinceR	and they didn't seem to mind when the nazis destroyed the remaining freedom of speech and rule of law	Jan 08 15:42
MinceR	also, i'd like to think that the people i'd meet on the street on other countries are more civilized	Jan 08 15:42
Sosumi	it's pretty much around the same everywhere	Jan 08 15:44
iophk	http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-incorporates-free-red-hat-clone-centos-7000024907/	Jan 08 15:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat incorporates 'free' Red Hat clone CentOS \| ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gda17 ]	Jan 08 15:45
Sosumi	don't think that the ppl you meet around the street are all fine	Jan 08 15:45
Sosumi	you usually encounter the typical jerk or group of jerks when you least expect	Jan 08 15:45
Sosumi	it	Jan 08 15:45
abeNd-org	all humans are jerks	Jan 08 15:46
abeNd-org	they are only nice when it suits them to forward their own adjenda	Jan 08 15:47
Sosumi	abeNd-org, your lack of faith in humanity is disturbing	Jan 08 15:48
Sosumi	http://pipocaenanquim.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/El-Emperador-Palpatine-y-Darth-Vader.jpg	Jan 08 15:48
Sosumi	I'm nice to everyone, but ofc, if I want keep or have a closer relationship with someone	Jan 08 15:50
Sosumi	well ofc that person is going to get special attention	Jan 08 15:51
Sosumi	but that doesn't mean harm or injury to that person	Jan 08 15:51
Sosumi	and in the relationship or say cooperation, bears fruits	Jan 08 15:52
Sosumi	seeing it too negatively and your social life will end up being a trainwreck	Jan 08 15:54
iophk	http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9244898/4_reasons_companies_say_yes_to_open_source	Jan 08 15:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerworld.com \| 4 reasons companies say yes to open source - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gda3n ]	Jan 08 15:59
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Sosumi	I can tell the top reason	Jan 08 16:09
Sosumi	no more dumb fees when moving from xp	Jan 08 16:10
iophk	or software that actually works ...	Jan 08 16:10
MinceR	also, no more idiotic GUIs like ribbon and metro	Jan 08 16:10
Sosumi	that is under dumb fees	Jan 08 16:10
MinceR	that require retraining everyone	Jan 08 16:10
Sosumi	dumb fees	Jan 08 16:10
MinceR	(and permanently decrease productivity regardless of training)	Jan 08 16:11
iophk	MinceR: that is probably the goal.	Jan 08 16:11
Sosumi	but the problem is that everything moved to ribbon	Jan 08 16:11
iophk	a decrease in productivity means an increase in stress and panic	Jan 08 16:11
MinceR	not everything	Jan 08 16:11
Sosumi	autocad, matlab to name a few	Jan 08 16:11
MinceR	afaict no free software moved to ribbon	Jan 08 16:12
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 08 16:12
Sosumi	but having matlab migrate to ribbon was plain dumb	Jan 08 16:12
iophk	no mention of LibreOffice or OpenOffice.org: http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/moving-office-365-dig-deep-your-options-first-233663	Jan 08 16:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Moving to Office 365? Dig deep into your options first \| Microsoft Windows - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gda6h ]	Jan 08 16:12
Sosumi	old menu model worked a lot better	Jan 08 16:12
MinceR	perhaps it's time to move to octave? :>	Jan 08 16:13
Sosumi	way too much backcatalog in order to migrate	Jan 08 16:14
Sosumi	and I'm still migrating from osx	Jan 08 16:14
Sosumi	for 1 year and 2 months now	Jan 08 16:14
Sosumi	also teachers and everyone uses matlab	Jan 08 16:15
Sosumi	and they teach matlab at university	Jan 08 16:15
Sosumi	so even dropping matlab is impossible at moment	Jan 08 16:16
Sosumi	it is just like skype,	Jan 08 16:16
Sosumi	I have an account because I'm forced to	Jan 08 16:16
Sosumi	not because I want to	Jan 08 16:16
MinceR	i know what it's like	Jan 08 16:16
MinceR	i had a m$n messenger account because i was forced to	Jan 08 16:17
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/markhughes/status/420888350342787072	Jan 08 16:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@markhughes: .@schestowitz only spying is necessary to destroy #democracy, no actual misuse of information need take place. Free thought gets destroyed.	Jan 08 16:32
schestowitz	self censorship	Jan 08 16:32
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iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/08/why-sonys-ps4-is-crushing-microsofts-xbox-one-in-sales-so-far/	Jan 08 17:00
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Why Sony's PS4 Is Crushing Microsoft's Xbox One In Sales So Far - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gdad5 ]	Jan 08 17:00
Sosumi	more powerful hardware and better games	Jan 08 17:05
Sosumi	the ps vita complement is also nice	Jan 08 17:05
Sosumi	what does M$ have?	Jan 08 17:05
Sosumi	bad rep from the past gen, weaker HW and no games	Jan 08 17:06
Sosumi	while costing 100€ +	Jan 08 17:06
iophk	and an always-on camera and mic	Jan 08 17:06
iophk	connected to the net	Jan 08 17:06
Sosumi	for the snoopnect camera	Jan 08 17:06
Sosumi	almost forgot	Jan 08 17:07
Sosumi	and replaceable HDD	Jan 08 17:07
Sosumi	just like the ps3	Jan 08 17:07
Sosumi	no 99€ for just 20 GB	Jan 08 17:08
Sosumi	like it was with xbox 2	Jan 08 17:08
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/19/xbox_recall_nofix/	Jan 08 17:10
iophk	http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/19/xbox-360-power-supply-pinpointed-as-cause-of-house-fire/	Jan 08 17:10
iophk	consistency across models	Jan 08 17:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| After cable recall, Xbox's still frying • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gdai6 ]	Jan 08 17:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.engadget.com \| Xbox 360 power supply pinpointed as cause of house fire [ http://ur1.ca/gdai8 ]	Jan 08 17:11
Sosumi	don't worry	Jan 08 17:12
Sosumi	there are plenty of disc read error of death for the ps2	Jan 08 17:13
Sosumi	and sony not acknowledging the issue	Jan 08 17:13
iophk	http://hothardware.com/News/Why-Youre-Better-Off-Exchanging-a-Faulty-Xbox-One-Console-InStore/	Jan 08 17:13
Sosumi	I actually have an original xbox	Jan 08 17:13
TechrightsBot-tr	hothardware.com \| Why You're Better Off Exchanging a Faulty Xbox One Console In-Store - HotHardware [ http://ur1.ca/gdakd ]	Jan 08 17:13
Sosumi	not launch ofc	Jan 08 17:13
Sosumi	but only bought it for shemue	Jan 08 17:14
Sosumi	and ninja gaiden	Jan 08 17:14
Sosumi	although I think that I should have gotten a dreamcast instead	Jan 08 17:14
Sosumi	when they were on fire sale for 90€	Jan 08 17:15
Sosumi	after sega canceled them	Jan 08 17:15
Sosumi	but 2000 and before consoles were a lot more reliable	Jan 08 17:18
Sosumi	despite sony's and nintendo's DRE problems	Jan 08 17:19
Sosumi	there were never major issues with consoles bricking	Jan 08 17:19
Sosumi	or requiring constant servicing	Jan 08 17:19
Sosumi	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/01/07/dell-wasnt-joking-about-that-28-inch-sub-1000-4k-monitor-its-only-699/	Jan 08 17:21
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699 - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gdaot ]	Jan 08 17:21
Sosumi	now we need ips vs igzo comparisons	Jan 08 17:22
Sosumi	specially on things like lag, color reproduction, refreshing (applies to this new batch of 4k displays) and ghosting	Jan 08 17:26
Sosumi	but I still wish they sold crt monitors	Jan 08 17:26
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iophk	"drivers would be able to access email, apps and music"	Jan 08 18:54
iophk	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/ces/10553554/Google-wants-an-Android-in-every-Audi-and-Honda.html	Jan 08 18:54
iophk	what could possibly go wrong?	Jan 08 18:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Google wants an Android in every Audi and Honda - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gdc2j ]	Jan 08 18:54
abeNd-org	Sosumi: I can only work with my own personal experiences with people, they are what make my opinion of humanity negative	Jan 08 19:07
iophk	http://www.universityherald.com/articles/6664/20140107/uva-student-arrested-and-jailed-for-water-mistaken-for-beer-plans-civil-lawsuit-against-state.htm	Jan 08 19:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.universityherald.com \| UVa Student Arrested and Jailed For Water Mistaken for Beer Plans Civil Lawsuit Against State : News : University Herald [ http://ur1.ca/gdc9w ]	Jan 08 19:18
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iophk	http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2014/0107/Burglars-who-embarrassed-FBI-in-unsolved-document-heist-come-forward-video	Jan 08 20:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.csmonitor.com \| Burglars who embarrassed FBI in unsolved document heist come forward (+video) - CSMonitor.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdckx ]	Jan 08 20:08
iophk	"The leaked papers included, too, the first references to COINTELPRO"	Jan 08 20:09
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Sosumi	abeNd-org, that is also my personal based on my dealings with ppl	Jan 08 20:47
Sosumi	*opinion	Jan 08 20:47
DaemonFC	OMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:16
DaemonFC	I would think that fundamentalist Christians would approve of the choice that educated professionals typically make to have few children.	Jan 08 21:16
DaemonFC	Eventually, the world will be covered with religious fundamentalists that have 20 children and go on welfare (they call it "draining the beast"), society will collapse because there will no longer be enough educated liberals paying taxes to cover all of this, and the fundies can go back to throwing poo at each other.	Jan 08 21:16
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:46
DaemonFC	Only Walmart gives you the satisfaction of knowing that hundreds of Bangladeshi factory workers died in a fire making your Duck Dynasty crap so that you can wear it on COPS when the police are interviewing you about beating your wife.	Jan 08 21:46
Sosumi	Duffy Duck Dynasty?	Jan 08 21:48
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2MDZ00PCVJ8GL	Jan 08 21:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Thanks to freedom of religion, the Satanic Temple has designed a statue to be placed on the Oklahoma capital grounds. [ http://ur1.ca/gdd21 ]	Jan 08 21:52
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:52
DaemonFC	http://www.alternet.org/satan-worshippers-want-place-statue-oklahoma-capitol	Jan 08 21:52
DaemonFC	The statue will even be functional. It's going to be a chair, so that you can sit in the dark lord's lap.	Jan 08 21:52
DaemonFC	Priceless....	Jan 08 21:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.alternet.org \| Satan-Worshippers Want to Place Devil Statue In Oklahoma Capitol \| Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gdd23 ]	Jan 08 21:52
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:52
DaemonFC	I can't wait until parents have to tell their children to quit sitting on Baphomet's lap because he isn't bringing them their Christmas presents.	Jan 08 21:52
MinceR	nice	Jan 08 21:53
MinceR	the bible-humpers had it coming	Jan 08 21:54
DaemonFC	Tomcat™ says:	Jan 08 21:59
DaemonFC	Right. A 24 year-old smoker gets a Silver Plan with no deductible for $56.	Jan 08 21:59
DaemonFC	Totally believable. eyes looking like Marty Feldman	Jan 08 21:59
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:59
DaemonFC	I didn't believe it myself until I clicked "Buy policy".	Jan 08 21:59
DaemonFC	His affordability credit is $236 a month. They give you a choice between putting it on your tax return or applying it to your premium each month. I don't know why you'd put it on your tax return. For most people, it would just give predatory bill collectors or child support something else to take.	Jan 08 21:59
Sosumi	I want to sit in there	Jan 08 22:00
Sosumi	with this song on the background	Jan 08 22:00
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNKttMFgaf0	Jan 08 22:00
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Black Sabbath N.I.B lyrics in description - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdd3b ]	Jan 08 22:00
Sosumi	legendary	Jan 08 22:00
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 22:36
DaemonFC	By total wealth, the United States is the richest country in the world, unless you take out a few thousand millionaires and billionaires and leave the other 350 million.	Jan 08 22:36
DaemonFC	Most people that aren't Bill Gates don't benefit from the fact that Bill Gates lives here.	Jan 08 22:36
MinceR	in fact, they suffer from it	Jan 08 22:37
DaemonFC	"Any woman who marries for love gets exactly what she deserves, a shitty wring and four bratty kids." -Joan Rivers	Jan 08 23:15
DaemonFC	*ring	Jan 08 23:15
MinceR	marriage is overrated	Jan 08 23:17
Sosumi	http://bos.sagepub.com/content/70/1/32.full	Jan 08 23:25
TechrightsBot-tr	bos.sagepub.com \| Stopping killer robots [ http://ur1.ca/gdde8 ]	Jan 08 23:25
Sosumi	algos determining who lives and who dies	Jan 08 23:25
Sosumi	also, marriage, never fall for that	Jan 08 23:26
Sosumi	say it like I do	Jan 08 23:26
MinceR	i'd like to have an army of killbots	Jan 08 23:26
MinceR	much more trustworthy than humans	Jan 08 23:27
Sosumi	marriage isn't a proof of afection towards the other partner	Jan 08 23:27
MinceR	yeah, it just makes breaking up more costly	Jan 08 23:27
Sosumi	and actually, violence only happens after marriage	Jan 08 23:27
MinceR	and lets the state meddle with your partnership	Jan 08 23:28
Sosumi	because now, specially if you are women, you'll be entrapped, sometimes in shame to an abusive dude	Jan 08 23:28
Sosumi	and a divorce costs 250€ and it's a lot of paperwork	Jan 08 23:29
Sosumi	and division of goods acquired after marriage and so on	Jan 08 23:29
Sosumi	my uncle learn that lesson hard	Jan 08 23:30
Sosumi	after his now ex-wife decided to cheat on him	Jan 08 23:30
Sosumi	and ended up selling his house and give her half the cash	Jan 08 23:31
Sosumi	even through he paid for everything	Jan 08 23:31
Sosumi	so it works on both ways	Jan 08 23:31
Sosumi	*learned	Jan 08 23:31
Sosumi	"marriage isn't proof of anything" - Sosumi	Jan 08 23:32
Sosumi	quote is licensed under GPL version 3	Jan 08 23:32
Sosumi	http://www.blacklistednews.com/EU_Draws_Up_Plans_to_Send_Troops_to_Central_Africa/31848/0/38/38/Y/M.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter	Jan 08 23:34
TechrightsBot-tr	www.blacklistednews.com \| EU Draws Up Plans to Send Troops to Central Africa [ http://ur1.ca/gddey ]	Jan 08 23:34
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Sosumi	and then José Ed. dos Santos from Angola says portugal wants to re-colonize africa	Jan 08 23:35
Sosumi	it isn't "us", it is the same powers that made us lose the colonies in the first place, so they could grab them	Jan 08 23:36
Sosumi	and supply weapons to all sides in order to artificially increase the prices of resources	Jan 08 23:36
Sosumi	namely diamonds	Jan 08 23:37
Sosumi	rare earths and so on could also have been profitable	Jan 08 23:37
Sosumi	instead of leaving china with that market monopolized	Jan 08 23:38
Sosumi	http://landdestroyer.blogspot.pt/2014/01/the-plundering-of-south-sudan.html	Jan 08 23:38
TechrightsBot-tr	landdestroyer.blogspot.pt \| Land Destroyer: The Plundering of South Sudan [ http://ur1.ca/gddfd ]	Jan 08 23:38
Sosumi	remember when Susie Rice and Hitlery Clinton touted the sudan division as a good example	Jan 08 23:39
Sosumi	well, that is the result	Jan 08 23:39
Sosumi	and it isn't certainly good for zee ppl, right?	Jan 08 23:40
MinceR	dunno	Jan 08 23:40
MinceR	africa seems pretty fucked up	Jan 08 23:40
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 23:45
DaemonFC	The state takes the kids away, gives them to the woman, may or may not let you see them, dictates the terms under which you are allowed to see them, and siphons off half your paycheck so that the woman can spend it any way she wants.	Jan 08 23:45
DaemonFC	I used to work with a guy that said that his ex-wife was letting the kids wear clothes with holes in them while she was spending his child support money on a brand new vehicle for herself. She also had an iPhone. Brand new clothes for herself...	Jan 08 23:45
MinceR	an inspiration for birth control	Jan 08 23:47
Sosumi	no, an inspiration to remove the state from the parent-child relationship	Jan 08 23:48
Sosumi	because if the kids weren't taken in the first place...	Jan 08 23:49
Sosumi	you can guess the rest	Jan 08 23:49
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 23:49
MinceR	but even not taking the kids away can lead to a bad situation	Jan 08 23:49
Sosumi	like?	Jan 08 23:49
Sosumi	mistreatment?	Jan 08 23:49
MinceR	yes, if the father was a bad parent	Jan 08 23:50
Sosumi	that has always happened, but then the child would show up with bruises or emotionally disturbed	Jan 08 23:50
Sosumi	but on those extreme cases, a teacher could always intervene	Jan 08 23:51
MinceR	if i had to count on my average teacher for such things, i would have been in hell	Jan 08 23:51
MinceR	most of them were mentally ill people who should have never been allowed near children	Jan 08 23:52
Sosumi	a medic? in case the abusive parent took his child to a clinic	Jan 08 23:52
MinceR	then again, what can you expect in a country where teaching is one of the things nobody is willing to pay for	Jan 08 23:52
Sosumi	I guess I had a golden childhood then :)	Jan 08 23:52
MinceR	our teachers get paid nothing and there's no quality control in teaching	Jan 08 23:53
Sosumi	lots of fun and laughs during kindergarden to the secondary	Jan 08 23:53
MinceR	so the worst of the worst tend to take most of the slots	Jan 08 23:54
MinceR	and the children aren't any better either	Jan 08 23:54
MinceR	nasty little shits	Jan 08 23:54
Sosumi	after that everyone I knew moved, I moved and lost most of my friends and really didn't seem to make many at university either	Jan 08 23:55
Sosumi	:)	Jan 08 23:55
MinceR	at least at college and university i met mostly adult people	Jan 08 23:55
Sosumi	"mostly"	Jan 08 23:56
Sosumi	I still see ppl expelled from classes for bad behavior	Jan 08 23:56
MinceR	gn	Jan 09 00:03
Sosumi	going to bad too	Jan 09 00:04
Sosumi	"early to bed, early to rise, makes the body good and the senses sharp" - Sosumi	Jan 09 00:05
Sosumi	:)	Jan 09 00:05
Sosumi	GN	Jan 09 00:05
MinceR	Early to rise and early to bed makes a male healthy and wealthy and dead.	Jan 09 00:05
MinceR	-- James Thurber	Jan 09 00:06
Sosumi	mine's kewler	Jan 09 00:06
MinceR	mine's truer	Jan 09 00:06
Sosumi	:)	Jan 09 00:06
DaemonFC	Sosumi, Everything you do gives the state another opportunity to control you.	Jan 09 00:15
DaemonFC	Having kids is a big mistake because the state is never going to stop beating you over the head for that.	Jan 09 00:15
Snowleaksange	http://www.quora.com/Engineering-in-Silicon-Valley/Does-the-NSA-have-better-engineers-than-Facebook-or-Google	Jan 09 00:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.quora.com \| Engineering in Silicon Valley: Does the NSA have better engineers than Facebook or Google? - Quora [ http://ur1.ca/gddm6 ]	Jan 09 00:26
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DaemonFC	Roger says:	Jan 09 01:07
DaemonFC	Do you have a problem with the Satanic Temple?	Jan 09 01:07
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 01:07
DaemonFC	Actually, I think it's ridiculous for any religion to be allowed into the public sector. No good has ever come of it and none ever will.	Jan 09 01:07
DaemonFC	That being said, now that they've opened the floodgates, I think Oklahoma is going to get what it deserves. Enjoy your Satanic monument.	Jan 09 01:07
DaemonFC	I think it's funny.....as hell.	Jan 09 01:07
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 01:38
DaemonFC	The sad part is that the First Amendment has survived Neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan, and the Westboro Baptist Church, but it might not survive Chris Dodd and the MPAA.	Jan 09 01:38
DaemonFC	I don't want to give up my rights to silence the Nazis, and I don't want to give up my rights to enable the MPAA to make more money.	Jan 09 01:40
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 01:55
DaemonFC	If the choice is pay the hospital or pay the mortgage, pay the mortgage.	Jan 09 01:55
DaemonFC	If the choice is pay the hospital, or buy food, buy food.	Jan 09 01:55
DaemonFC	If the choice is to pay the hospital, or to replace a pair of worn out shoes, buy new shoes.	Jan 09 01:55
DaemonFC	If the choice is to pay the hospital, or fix your car, fix your car.	Jan 09 01:55
DaemonFC	Paying unsecured medical bills that have already done their damage to your credit report can cause more serious problems in other areas of your budget if you're on a tight income.	Jan 09 01:55
DaemonFC	And, frankly, it's not worth living on hardtack and gruel so that these rapacious pigs can give themselves million dollar bonuses at the end of the year.	Jan 09 01:55
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 02:17
DaemonFC	I have a sharpie marker that takes care of all those "in god we trust"s.	Jan 09 02:17
DaemonFC	You can do the same thing! It's harder with coins unless you have the time and patience to file them off. I don't.	Jan 09 02:17
DaemonFC	Why shouldn't the money say "in god we trust"? It's so delightfully perverse. The money is an instrument that the rich and the banksters use to subjugate and enslave workers. At the same time, they're saying "trust God!". Do you think that this amuses them? I've always taken "In God We Trust" to be a cruel irony that really means "Work sucks, but at least someday you'll die! Keep working!".	Jan 09 02:17
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 02:19
DaemonFC	You could also take a pen and write in "^BULL****!".	Jan 09 02:19
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 02:39
DaemonFC	Crossover gave up and bundled their own X.org Server because Mac OS users are dumber than a second coat of paint and it's impossible to expect any of them to be able to install one themselves.	Jan 09 02:39
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 03:15
DaemonFC	Mac OS "Classic" was a different operating system, and of course it crashed more. It was even worse than Windows 98.	Jan 09 03:15
DaemonFC	My high school had Macs, and they were garbage. When you were editing an office document, you had two choices, let autosave run and freeze up the Mac at random times, or leave autosave off and lose the entire document when the Mac crashed. It was very frustrating. I ended up being given a detention one day because the Mac crashed and I lost a document, and I shouted "**ing pile of **!" before I could stop myself.	Jan 09 03:15
DaemonFC	You probably would too if you lost an entire essay because of Apple's lousy software.	Jan 09 03:15
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msb__	DaemonFC: Hi! Still there?	Jan 09 05:26
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 09 05:27
msb__	DaemonFC: You probably know this by now, but with a crummy editor like you described, you can just do a save-as foo23.doc.	Jan 09 05:29
msb__	Then 5 minutes later, when you've written a big paragraph, save-as foo24.doc, etc.	Jan 09 05:29
msb__	Then you never lose anything.	Jan 09 05:29
msb__	Just delete all but the last few periodically.	Jan 09 05:30
msb__	I used to do that all the time in PC-DOS.	Jan 09 05:31
msb__	Anyhow, hope you're not inside the polar vortex!	Jan 09 05:32
DaemonFC	I am	Jan 09 05:32
msb__	Yiii!	Jan 09 05:33
msb__	Do you have enough furniture to burn?	Jan 09 05:33
msb__	There's always the old porno mags, but the minerals in the shiny ones make them hard to light.	Jan 09 05:35
DaemonFC	I'd prefer to save the porn and burn the meth addicts that reside in this backwards redneck town.	Jan 09 05:54
DaemonFC	It's getting cold again! Throw another meth addict on the fire!	Jan 09 05:54
DaemonFC	I don't know how well they burn, but we could try a few and find out. If they don't go up right away, we can get some kerosene.	Jan 09 05:55
msb__	Hope there aren't any witches living in your area...	Jan 09 06:06
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DaemonFC	msb__, The polar vortex was kind of fun.	Jan 09 06:13
DaemonFC	I got snowed in and nobody bothered me for three days.	Jan 09 06:14
msb__	Great! As long as you had heat and food.	Jan 09 06:14
msb__	...and Linux.	Jan 09 06:16
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Sosumi	DaemonFC, this isn't the US	Jan 09 06:22
Sosumi	in here there is no meddling in the parent-child relationship	Jan 09 06:22
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 06:22
DaemonFC	I know how to speed up the cow fart study (if there actually is one). You start feeding the cows Fiber One bars. In about 3-4 hours, you'll have all the data you need.	Jan 09 06:22
Sosumi	and it is not what the state wants or some gov worker,	Jan 09 06:24
Sosumi	it is what the parent thinks it is best	Jan 09 06:24
DaemonFC	Oh. When people get divorced here, the default is that the woman gets the kids, and the man gets a judge to tell them how much to pay the woman in alimony and child support.	Jan 09 06:26
DaemonFC	Some states don't have alimony at all. Other states have lifetime alimony.	Jan 09 06:26
DaemonFC	Florida has lifetime alimony until the woman gets remarried.	Jan 09 06:26
DaemonFC	So, a lot of women divorce and then live with their new boyfriend so the check from the ex-husband doesn't stop.	Jan 09 06:26
DaemonFC	Ever.	Jan 09 06:26
Sosumi	we don't have that	Jan 09 06:26
DaemonFC	More than a few men have figured out that it's cheaper to hire a hitman than to keep paying their ex wife.	Jan 09 06:27
Sosumi	the only way for the child to receive what we call "food pension", is for them to be minors or still be studying after reaching adulthood at the age of 18	Jan 09 06:28
Sosumi	that is usually paid by the parent without custody of the child	Jan 09 06:29
Sosumi	and yes, usually the women takes the kids	Jan 09 06:30
DaemonFC	Child support continues in some states until 21 if they're still in school.	Jan 09 06:30
Sosumi	but not always	Jan 09 06:30
DaemonFC	Either because they got held back a year in high school or because they're in college.	Jan 09 06:30
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 09 06:30
Sosumi	for example I'm still studying and I qualify for that pension	Jan 09 06:31
Sosumi	but that doesn't mean I get one, since my "father" works for himself	Jan 09 06:31
Sosumi	and he can just declare he hadn't a signle profit	Jan 09 06:31
Sosumi	so he can claim that he can't pay me the 100€ a month that was accorded under a judge and both our lawyers	Jan 09 06:32
Sosumi	my uncle's ex-wife, left her then 4 years old daughter with my uncle	Jan 09 06:33
Sosumi	and doesn't pay her a single cent, since she can do the same	Jan 09 06:34
Sosumi	there isn't really any enforcement of it as I can tell	Jan 09 06:37
Sosumi	and it is more based on the goodwill of the parent than anything else	Jan 09 06:37
Sosumi	http://rt.com/usa/cops-kill-mentally-ill-teen-283/	Jan 09 06:50
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gdfkn ]	Jan 09 06:50
Sosumi	Cops kill mentally ill teen after parents call police to help him	Jan 09 06:50
Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-08/how-us-employs-overseas-sweatshops-produce-government-uniforms	Jan 09 06:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zerohedge.com \| How The U.S. Employs Overseas Sweatshops To Produce Government Uniforms \| Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gdfkz ]	Jan 09 06:53
Sosumi	gogo team USA	Jan 09 06:57
MinceR	"I have worked at both the NSA and Microsoft. On average, the engineers at the NSA are not as good." -- it's a miracle that nsa gets anything done, then	Jan 09 07:00
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MinceR	https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1545860_10151943795286840_1572126254_n.jpg	Jan 09 07:32
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 09 09:09
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schestowitz	MinceR: not always https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1545860_10151943795286840_1572126254_n.jpg	Jan 09 09:40
schestowitz	generalisation	Jan 09 09:41
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 09:45
DaemonFC	Apple's are exceptionally difficult to upgrade, especially the Mac Mini. I saw a how to guide. Opening the case to upgrade the RAM or swap out the hard disk involves a paint scraper.	Jan 09 09:45
DaemonFC	Apple did that on purpose. They want to make you scared to open it up because there's a good chance that you'll scratch the **** out of your "precious". Now, if you take it to an Apple store, they'll be happy to have a "Genius" open it up and upgrade the RAM for you. Better hit the ATM on the way there. A $50 RAM upgrade is going to cost over $200 by the time they get done with you.	Jan 09 09:45
DaemonFC	Oddly enough, the "Genius" has a special tool that looks just like a paint scraper, only with a plastic edge. :)	Jan 09 09:45
MinceR	they're easy, actually: 1. throw that crap out 2. buy a real computer	Jan 09 09:53
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 10:00
DaemonFC	We had a terrible recession, an unemployment catastrophe, a debt crisis, and the worst poverty in a generation in 2008.	Jan 09 10:00
DaemonFC	What else happened around the same time?	Jan 09 10:00
DaemonFC	Hint:	Jan 09 10:00
DaemonFC	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/US_high-income_effective_tax_rates.png	Jan 09 10:00
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Effective_Corporate_Tax_Rate_1947-2011_v2.jpg	Jan 09 10:00
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| File:US Effective Corporate Tax Rate 1947-2011 v2.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gdhks ]	Jan 09 10:00
schestowitz	http://www.tuaw.com/2014/01/07/the-nsa-the-iphone-and-a-whole-lot-of-paranoia/	Jan 09 10:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuaw.com \| The NSA, the iPhone and a whole lot of paranoia \| TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog [ http://ur1.ca/gdhkx ]	Jan 09 10:01
schestowitz	Apple idiots	Jan 09 10:01
Sosumi	mac minis are crippled by heat	Jan 09 10:13
Sosumi	why would you buy one is beyond me	Jan 09 10:13
Sosumi	steam box is the way to go on my opinion	Jan 09 10:13
Sosumi	as at least some of the designs I've seen just take of the shelf parts that can be easily swapped	Jan 09 10:14
Sosumi	but on the mac mini there's no glued components or stuff that can be scratched by swapping ram or the hdd	Jan 09 10:15
Sosumi	although swapping the HDDs on that thing is a total pain in the butt	Jan 09 10:15
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Sosumi	but then again my 1st point, for "serious" work, mac minis are crippled by heat	Jan 09 10:16
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DaemonFC	http://billmoyers.com/2014/01/08/marco-rubios-anti-poverty-agenda-would-create-two-americas/	Jan 09 10:21
DaemonFC	Marco Rubio and other Teathuglicans are concern trolling the topic of poverty. They're so concerned about helping the poor, they want to cut the minimum wage, so that entry level jobs can pay as little as they want.	Jan 09 10:21
DaemonFC	If everyone wants to work for 10 cents an hour, everyone can have a job.	Jan 09 10:21
DaemonFC	Why didn't anyone think of that before? :P	Jan 09 10:21
TechrightsBot-tr	billmoyers.com \| Marco Rubio's "Anti-Poverty" Agenda Would Create Two Americas \| The Poverty Line, What Matters Today \| BillMoyers.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdhvr ]	Jan 09 10:21
Sosumi	http://rense.com/1.imagesH/gorechurch.jpg	Jan 09 10:35
Sosumi	"Church of Climatology"	Jan 09 10:35
Sosumi	had to laugh, because it is true	Jan 09 10:35
iophk	http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/microsoft-and-your-tax-returns/article5515493.ece	Jan 09 10:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.thehindubusinessline.com \| Microsoft and your tax returns \| Business Line [ http://ur1.ca/gdhys ]	Jan 09 10:37
DaemonFC	http://imageshack.us/a/img208/7804/buy5.png	Jan 09 10:42
DaemonFC	http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5997/0riq.png	Jan 09 10:42
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DaemonFC	That's interesting....	Jan 09 11:16
DaemonFC	I was playing around with my car insurance and noticed that my premium is the same with $50,000 per person $100,000 per accident Bodily Injury and $25,000 Property Damage as is is with $50,000/$100,000 with $50,000 of property damage.	Jan 09 11:17
DaemonFC	Why would the quote be the same with $25,000 more property damage coverage?	Jan 09 11:18
*DaemonFC decided to take it.		Jan 09 11:22
DaemonFC	Why not? It's free. I could hit someone's Jaguar.	Jan 09 11:22
Sosumi	yes, http://static.neatorama.com/images/2007-07/ashera-cat.jpg	Jan 09 11:26
MinceR	:3	Jan 09 11:34
DaemonFC	https://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/4258692052.html	Jan 09 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr	fortwayne.craigslist.org \| 15.4"Mac G4 PowerBook [ http://ur1.ca/gdihr ]	Jan 09 11:37
MinceR	WeaknessBook	Jan 09 11:38
DaemonFC	$170 is a bit steep.	Jan 09 11:39
DaemonFC	You can get a refurbished Chromebook with the dual Exynos 1.7 Ghz processor and 2 GB of RAM for about that much.	Jan 09 11:40
MinceR	indeed	Jan 09 11:41
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Sosumi	get a powerbook 15	Jan 09 12:18
Sosumi	and you'll be risking a "bulging" battery	Jan 09 12:18
Sosumi	the only models that didn't suffer from that were 17 and 12 inches models	Jan 09 12:19
MinceR	bulging with Power!	Jan 09 12:19
Sosumi	and that is a very onld model	Jan 09 12:19
MinceR	all powerbooks are	Jan 09 12:19
Sosumi	not, I mean that model is is from 2000	Jan 09 12:20
Sosumi	plus the advertisement is wrong	Jan 09 12:20
Sosumi	snow leopard is 10.6	Jan 09 12:20
Sosumi	that model comes with tiger	Jan 09 12:20
Sosumi	which is 10.4	Jan 09 12:20
Sosumi	for the same you can get the early or late 2004 powerbook 17	Jan 09 12:22
Sosumi	with a single core g4 at 1.5 or 1.66	Jan 09 12:22
Sosumi	and no risks for exploding/bulging batts	Jan 09 12:23
Sosumi	but why bother, get the metallic lemote instead	Jan 09 12:23
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Sosumi	actually, I saw a couple of weeks ago an almost new core 2 quad toshiba laptop with dual gtx 9800m	Jan 09 12:29
Sosumi	on a computer dump place	Jan 09 12:30
Sosumi	and it wasn't in bad shape or anything	Jan 09 12:30
Sosumi	just some smudges on the screen	Jan 09 12:30
Sosumi	dunno if it still worked, but at least you'd get a "functional computer"	Jan 09 12:31
Sosumi	http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/09-01-2014/126573-european_union_portugal-0/	Jan 09 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr	english.pravda.ru \| European Union drives Portugal into Third World - English pravda.ru [ http://ur1.ca/gdiwh ]	Jan 09 12:41
Sosumi	"Take an evening walk in the center of Lisbon and see for yourself. And stop living with eyes wide shut."	Jan 09 12:41
Sosumi	you better not, unless you want to come with your pockets empty	Jan 09 12:41
Sosumi	illumination of some streets at night is also kind of an afterthought and sometimes, when the municipal workers are on strike,	Jan 09 12:43
Sosumi	there are piles of trash and funny smells everywhere	Jan 09 12:43
MinceR	http://imgur.com/gallery/Cjn6NfS "Ah, Mr. Bond," he said, stroking his hairless human slowly, "I've been expecting you."	Jan 09 12:46
TechrightsBot-tr	imgur.com \| My cat has one foggy eye. Add a bow tie and he instantly becomes a James Bond villain. - Imgur	Jan 09 12:46
Sosumi	lol	Jan 09 13:09
Sosumi	is that oddcat?	Jan 09 13:09
Sosumi	Oddjob's twin separated at birth	Jan 09 13:10
MinceR	dunno	Jan 09 13:11
Sosumi	Blofeld's them	Jan 09 13:12
MinceR	no, Oddjob is human	Jan 09 13:12
Sosumi	http://carlmaxim.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/blofeld1.jpg	Jan 09 13:12
Sosumi	so is Blofeld	Jan 09 13:13
MinceR	but the cat isn't	Jan 09 13:13
MinceR	so they can't be twins	Jan 09 13:13
Sosumi	who cares, you can do anything with genetics nowadays	Jan 09 13:14
MinceR	Blofeld could be the hairless human	Jan 09 13:14
Sosumi	talking of that, I've had a brilliance moment last month	Jan 09 13:15
Sosumi	by proposing the equivalent of vhdl for gene expression and a tissue design	Jan 09 13:17
Sosumi	and the answer was, "well, why don't you work on it?"	Jan 09 13:18
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 13:18
Sosumi	which means green light	Jan 09 13:18
Sosumi	and I've been pillaging the pirate bay for everything biotech, gene therapy and bioinformathics since then	Jan 09 13:20
Sosumi	I guess I'll have a quite busy summer vacation	Jan 09 13:21
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 13:26
DaemonFC	What about Mr. Bigglesworth and Random Task?	Jan 09 13:38
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 13:49
DaemonFC	If I get married, I want to get married there. I can't think of a better way to make right-wing fundamentalist Christians scream than to have a gay wedding in front of a statue of Satan in front of the state capital building in Oklahoma.	Jan 09 13:49
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 13:50
Sosumi	lol	Jan 09 14:12
Sosumi	http://www.trbimg.com/img-52ccd21e/turbine/la-me-ra-why-christians-should-embrace-the-sat-001/600	Jan 09 14:14
Sosumi	is that the statue's model?	Jan 09 14:14
Sosumi	if that so, that is just a statue of baphomet, not satan,	Jan 09 14:15
Sosumi	implying the as above so bellow,	Jan 09 14:15
Sosumi	the marriage between the male and female aspects	Jan 09 14:16
MinceR	is there a defined look for satan?	Jan 09 14:19
Sosumi	the moon (female) reflecting the sun (male) (see washington monument, obelisk = penis, water = pre-birth waters)	Jan 09 14:20
Sosumi	nop	Jan 09 14:20
Sosumi	but lucifer used to be represented as a candlelight	Jan 09 14:21
Sosumi	because after being expelled from heaven aka thunder would allow men to see in the dark	Jan 09 14:22
MinceR	i doubt that a candlelight would sufficiently enrage the bible-humpers	Jan 09 14:22
Sosumi	and as I've always said, those religions are nothing more than an ignorant description of natural events	Jan 09 14:22
DaemonFC	It's looking as if MATE is going to thrive after all.	Jan 09 14:23
Sosumi	well, a big candle light	Jan 09 14:23
Sosumi	lite with bibles	Jan 09 14:23
DaemonFC	I was skeptical at first.	Jan 09 14:23
MinceR	now we're getting somewhere	Jan 09 14:23
MinceR	still, it would cause way too much pollution	Jan 09 14:23
MinceR	unless it was an illusory flame of some sort	Jan 09 14:23
DaemonFC	There was also a project to fork GNOME 1. It immediately stalled out. I don't remember what they called it.	Jan 09 14:23
Sosumi	lol, trees breath CO2	Jan 09 14:23
Sosumi	no worries, just plant more	Jan 09 14:23
DaemonFC	There was no real reason for it though. GNOME 2 wasn't so bad.	Jan 09 14:23
MinceR	but in order to be candlelight, it would need to appear to have a pool of molten wax under the top of the bible pile	Jan 09 14:24
MinceR	so that the pages can wick the wax and fuel the flame with it	Jan 09 14:24
MinceR	gnome 2 was worse than gnome 1, though	Jan 09 14:24
MinceR	for example, the gnome 1 panel could swallow any x client as an applet	Jan 09 14:25
Sosumi	something like that, but I don't specifics are too important on this case	Jan 09 14:25
Sosumi	unless you actually want to build one	Jan 09 14:26
Sosumi	which is kind of pointless and you'd be encroaching into other ppl's freedoms	Jan 09 14:26
Sosumi	and who say bibles	Jan 09 14:26
Sosumi	well I not burn the zohar	Jan 09 14:27
Sosumi	or the quram	Jan 09 14:27
Sosumi	better let each fool do his own thing	Jan 09 14:27
Sosumi	if they want to blindly follow what was put in front of them by their parents, because their parents also did it to them	Jan 09 14:28
Sosumi	aka indoctrination starts at home	Jan 09 14:28
MinceR	unless chuck norris gets his way -- in which case it can start at school.	Jan 09 14:30
Sosumi	although I actually think that the rejection of a perfect being or creator should not be disregarded	Jan 09 14:31
Sosumi	following thought systems like those of religion or cults is dumb	Jan 09 14:31
Sosumi	I need to re-frase that,	Jan 09 14:31
Sosumi	I think that the rejection of a creator or perfect being should not be disregarded, because man actually needs something to serve example	Jan 09 14:32
Sosumi	and not let himself fall into moral relativity	Jan 09 14:33
Sosumi	following religious systems or cults is just plain dumb and ignorant	Jan 09 14:33
Sosumi	pff and I actually ended up writing exactly the same	Jan 09 14:34
*Sosumi needs to take a cold shower		Jan 09 14:34
Sosumi	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2014/01/teen-reported-security-hole/	Jan 09 14:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.wired.com \| Teen Reported to Police After Finding Security Hole in Website \| Threat Level \| Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdju1 ]	Jan 09 14:46
Sosumi	no good deed should ever go unpunished	Jan 09 14:47
Sosumi	spot the differences	Jan 09 14:51
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdiiMlxCIAAiAUd.jpg	Jan 09 14:51
DaemonFC	I decided to spend a few days pigging out.	Jan 09 14:51
DaemonFC	I need to gain a few pounds.	Jan 09 14:52
MinceR	Sosumi: so what if there's no creator or perfect being?	Jan 09 14:52
Sosumi	http://cstm.mymiddleearth.com/files/2011/01/CarnDumPoop.png	Jan 09 14:52
MinceR	does it preclude you from behaving ethically?	Jan 09 14:52
MinceR	strange, on the first of those two pics, one turd is stacked on another	Jan 09 14:53
Sosumi	turd²	Jan 09 14:53
Sosumi	that was the difference	Jan 09 14:53
Sosumi	I know better, but what I said was for the general folks out there	Jan 09 14:54
MinceR	it's a dangerous game to stack an entire system of values on shaky propositions	Jan 09 14:54
MinceR	and it is unnecessary	Jan 09 14:54
Sosumi	do you have better?	Jan 09 14:55
MinceR	i do	Jan 09 14:55
Sosumi	like?	Jan 09 14:55
MinceR	basing ethical reasoning on the actual consequences of actions	Jan 09 14:55
MinceR	and reciprocity	Jan 09 14:55
Sosumi	well that is good	Jan 09 14:56
Sosumi	but what about the folks who fall into moral relativity	Jan 09 14:56
Sosumi	like I'm going to steal because all I know is to steal	Jan 09 14:56
Sosumi	or like I'm fat because my genetics say I must be fat, while continuing to eat trash	Jan 09 14:57
MinceR	threaten thieves with actual punishment?	Jan 09 14:57
MinceR	point out that they won't like if others steal from them?	Jan 09 14:57
MinceR	as for allowing oneself to become fat, that's hardly a question of ethics	Jan 09 14:57
Sosumi	that only works on world with lvls reason	Jan 09 14:58
Sosumi	which isn't the case of this one	Jan 09 14:58
MinceR	it is also possible to use logic to point out the consequences of one person stealing and also the consequences of stealing being generally accepted and practiced	Jan 09 14:58
MinceR	how would an imaginary friend help better?	Jan 09 14:58
Sosumi	it isn't an imaginary friend, just and archtype of perfection	Jan 09 14:59
Sosumi	just like lucifer is an archtype for intellect	Jan 09 14:59
MinceR	way too specific for that	Jan 09 15:00
MinceR	what is yahweh an archetype for?	Jan 09 15:00
MinceR	vengeful, unjust mass murderers?	Jan 09 15:00
Sosumi	the lifegiver aka the sun	Jan 09 15:00
MinceR	that hardly makes any sense	Jan 09 15:01
MinceR	also, they disposed with their sun goddess (Shapash/Shapshu)	Jan 09 15:01
iophk	ruining Android devices with Vista8	Jan 09 15:01
iophk	http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245253/Intel_trumpets_Android_Windows_as_more_choice_	Jan 09 15:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerworld.com \| Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1b ]	Jan 09 15:01
MinceR	they only kept yahweh, the war god	Jan 09 15:01
iophk	http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2322002/pirate-bay-founder-gottfrid-svartholm-warg-gets-an-extended-prison-stay	Jan 09 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theinquirer.net \| Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Svartholm Warg gets an extended prison stay- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1g ]	Jan 09 15:02
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/50000-call-to-free-pirate-bay-founder-as-court-extends-custody-140108/	Jan 09 15:02
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| 50,000 Call to Free Pirate Bay Founder as Court Extends Custody \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1k ]	Jan 09 15:02
Sosumi	well, they also disposed the women of their place in the priesthoods and after that it started being males in gowns	Jan 09 15:03
Sosumi	it is just how it is	Jan 09 15:03
Sosumi	http://rt.com/news/fukushima-decontamination-system-stops-352/	Jan 09 15:05
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gdk21 ]	Jan 09 15:05
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 15:06
Sosumi	it never worked, dumping radioactive debris in tokyo bay, incinerating other, constant leaks and covert container dumpings during storms	Jan 09 15:06
Sosumi	Fukushima failure: Decontamination system stops functioning	Jan 09 15:06
Sosumi	grab your female japanese wife before she grows tentacles and starts glowing	Jan 09 15:07
MinceR	those would certainly broaden the options	Jan 09 15:08
Sosumi	lol	Jan 09 15:08
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iophk	http://www.hngn.com/articles/21547/20140109/more-security-experts-cancel-speech-for-rsa-conference.htm	Jan 09 17:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.hngn.com \| More Security Experts Cancel Speech for RSA Conference : News : Headlines & Global News [ http://ur1.ca/gdl06 ]	Jan 09 17:17
iophk	http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/security/319544-what-it-s-like-when-the-fbi-asks-you-to-backdoor-your-software	Jan 09 17:37
TechrightsBot-tr	securitywatch.pcmag.com \| What It's Like When The FBI Asks You To Backdoor Your Software [ http://ur1.ca/gdl3x ]	Jan 09 17:37
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MinceR	https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/419688527215853568	Jan 09 17:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@TheTweetOfGod: For the record, I AM a conservative. My son, on the other hand, is a communist.	Jan 09 17:57
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Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-09/hedge-fund-slams-portuguese-bonds-64-page-slideshow	Jan 09 18:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zerohedge.com \| Hedge Fund Slams Portuguese Bonds With 64 Page Slideshow \| Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gdlcp ]	Jan 09 18:18
Sosumi	bury the crippling debt and start a new	Jan 09 18:18
Sosumi	"2	Jan 09 18:20
Sosumi	nd	Jan 09 18:20
Sosumi	Best EU Sovereign Performer in 2012 and 2013, €72B of official sector money for Portuguese bondholders, Mostly Benefits Banks, and Hedge Funds in the UK, US…"	Jan 09 18:20
Sosumi	by stealing from the ppl	Jan 09 18:20
Sosumi	and strangling small businesses	Jan 09 18:20
Sosumi	and https://avaazdo.s3.amazonaws.com/7400a6b8d9a22ec5afadce3a27149082.jpg	Jan 09 18:23
MinceR	https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Whh-PZ-KRTU/Us51VjJnyVI/AAAAAAAAIwc/P_B0MPgpZGA/w550-h495-no/2014+-+1	Jan 09 18:29
MinceR	(old) http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/opinion/sunday/a-quantum-theory-of-mitt-romney.html?_r=1&	Jan 09 19:08
TechrightsBot-tr	myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gdllb ]	Jan 09 19:08
MinceR	also, coralcdn seems to be dead	Jan 09 19:09
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MinceR	it came back from the dead	Jan 09 19:13
MinceR	so if it comes up with the paywall, then http://www-nc.nytimes.com.nyud.net/2012/04/01/opinion/sunday/a-quantum-theory-of-mitt-romney.html?=_r=6&	Jan 09 19:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www-nc.nytimes.com.nyud.net \| A Quantum Theory of Mitt Romney - NYTimes.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdlmr ]	Jan 09 19:13
icecrawler	hey	Jan 09 19:14
MinceR	hay	Jan 09 19:16
icecrawler	fewt - there u are mofo, i cant get fuduntu updates	Jan 09 19:30
fewt	icecrawler	Jan 09 19:31
fewt	that's probably true, since it stopped existing last april.	Jan 09 19:31
fewt	also, yes, I am a mofo	Jan 09 19:32
fewt	for well over 15 years. hah	Jan 09 19:32
fewt	MinceR: haaaay	Jan 09 19:32
MinceR	fewt: http://latenightjimmy.tumblr.com/post/49569873438/in-honor-of-the-kentucky-derby-jimmy-did-a	Jan 09 19:33
TechrightsBot-tr	latenightjimmy.tumblr.com \| Late Night with Jimmy Fallon • In honor of the Kentucky Derby, Jimmy did a... [ http://ur1.ca/gdlql ]	Jan 09 19:33
fewt	MinceR, <3	Jan 09 19:33
schestowitz	v	Jan 09 19:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500048	Jan 09 19:35
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245253/Intel_trumpets_Android_Windows_as_more_choice_ better than Windows-only (Wintel)	Jan 09 19:35
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.computerworld.com \| Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1b ]	Jan 09 19:35
schestowitz	"If it comes with Restricted Boot, it's not better than Windows only. Sooner or later, it will be a brick."	Jan 09 19:35
schestowitz	I've always said (since 2006) that Intel should be boycotted for more reasons than that	Jan 09 19:36
fewt	An Intel boycott wouldn't be successful. It would only harm those trying to organize the boycott.	Jan 09 19:37
fewt	That whole cutting off your own nose thing. Intel is in so many aspects of computing it would take millions to make a dent.	Jan 09 19:38
MinceR	one can support their competitors though	Jan 09 19:39
fewt	Oh absolutely.	Jan 09 19:39
MinceR	that does more than just deprive intel of revenue	Jan 09 19:39
fewt	Only if you can convince enough people to join you.	Jan 09 19:39
MinceR	indeed.	Jan 09 19:40
fewt	If you were able to attract the entire FOSS community, yeah you'd make it work.	Jan 09 19:40
fewt	The large majority of the FOSS communtity (IMHO) doesn't care enough though.	Jan 09 19:40
fewt	they just want free stuff.	Jan 09 19:40
MinceR	it doesn't have to be the FOSS community	Jan 09 19:40
fewt	sure sure	Jan 09 19:41
fewt	I agree	Jan 09 19:41
MinceR	non-FOSS people can participate too	Jan 09 19:41
fewt	if you can find a way to attract them to the cause, yes absolutely	Jan 09 19:41
fewt	but how	Jan 09 19:41
fewt	most users don't care about anything but the computer turning on when they push the go button.	Jan 09 19:41
fewt	Computers are pretty much just smart appliances.	Jan 09 19:41
MinceR	it seems the industry already found some ways :>	Jan 09 19:41
MinceR	mobile (and otherwise) computing via ARM, for example	Jan 09 19:41
fewt	to them anyway.	Jan 09 19:41
fewt	yeah, true.	Jan 09 19:42
fewt	but the majority of ARM devices have locked bootloaders. At least the big telco devices do.	Jan 09 19:42
fewt	so you just subtract one bad behavior for another	Jan 09 19:42
MinceR	indeed	Jan 09 19:43
fewt	substitute	Jan 09 19:43
MinceR	Raspberry Pi-s and Pandoras don't, though.	Jan 09 19:43
fewt	it's such a complex issue	Jan 09 19:43
fewt	true that	Jan 09 19:43
MinceR	same with Nexus devices	Jan 09 19:43
fewt	<3 nexus devices personally	Jan 09 19:43
MinceR	and i think that most unlocked devices are unlocked or unlockable nowadays	Jan 09 19:43
schestowitz	fewt: fallacy	Jan 09 19:43
schestowitz	just because an entity it very big does not make it defensible or unbeatable	Jan 09 19:44
schestowitz	you just need to bear it more before it's knocked over	Jan 09 19:44
fewt	no no, I didn't mean to imply that it was unbeatable.	Jan 09 19:44
fewt	just that it's a very complex issue	Jan 09 19:44
schestowitz	Apple, Microsoft - both are huge - but any blow to them does make them smaller	Jan 09 19:44
schestowitz	Defeatism assumes you'll be crushed to death by those whom you criticise	Jan 09 19:44
fewt	when you do start to crack them, they will run to the government and ask for a handout	Jan 09 19:45
fewt	and you start over	Jan 09 19:45
fewt	like the banks and auto industries did	Jan 09 19:45
schestowitz	many in China they'd be connected to the Mafia well enough to kill you, like Coca Cola does in Colombia and elsewhere	Jan 09 19:45
MinceR	meanwhile, their competitors will rise	Jan 09 19:45
fewt	I don't mean to imply that no-one should try	Jan 09 19:45
schestowitz	fewt: bailouts are a separate issue	Jan 09 19:45
fewt	only that it's a huge challenge.	Jan 09 19:45
MinceR	and at the least you can hope for a state where intel, m$ and crApple are no longer forced on you	Jan 09 19:45
fewt	yes	Jan 09 19:45
MinceR	and they no longer have total control	Jan 09 19:46
schestowitz	BTW, Seagate and Sainsbury's (official accounts) contacted me today in, public	Jan 09 19:46
schestowitz	Sainsbury's has a quyarter of a million follows	Jan 09 19:46
schestowitz	followers	Jan 09 19:46
fewt	MinceR, I'm very close to ridding myself of my last Intel (x86_64) based device.	Jan 09 19:46
schestowitz	and it worried about something I wrote about their privacy policy	Jan 09 19:46
fewt	my next devices will be ARM only running Android.	Jan 09 19:46
MinceR	i'm not but i'm planning to switch my main computer to ARM	Jan 09 19:46
schestowitz	Seagate tio responded, it means that their policy it to "engage" with such crtitics, it's a business threat, a whispter campaugn	Jan 09 19:47
fewt	MinceR I'm pondering the HP Slate Pro	Jan 09 19:47
schestowitz	*whisper campaign	Jan 09 19:47
MinceR	as my current convertible tablet pc is too damn heavy and lasts too little on battery	Jan 09 19:47
MinceR	i'm pondering the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF701T	Jan 09 19:47
fewt	or, just using my Nexus 7 full time	Jan 09 19:47
fewt	I practically do now..	Jan 09 19:47
MinceR	failing that, the Nexus 7 (2013) 32 GB WiFi	Jan 09 19:47
schestowitz	BTW, UEFI is f*cked in the minds of many Lin ux users	Jan 09 19:47
schestowitz	I wrote articles that reached hunfreds of thousands	Jan 09 19:47
MinceR	i could use a keyboard with those while powering (and charging) them from mains	Jan 09 19:47
schestowitz	And heads of UEFI (Intel staff) arrange a conference call with me, allowed me to record.	Jan 09 19:47
fewt	nice	Jan 09 19:48
schestowitz	This too means they're hurting	Jan 09 19:48
fewt	or they are willing to listen and adapt	Jan 09 19:48
fewt	listening != hurting	Jan 09 19:48
schestowitz	They'd have other things to do if they saw critics as powerless	Jan 09 19:48
schestowitz	You can change the way some issuesa are publicly discused, such as SeaWorld	Jan 09 19:48
MinceR	well, if they won't listen then the PC is dead	Jan 09 19:48
schestowitz	After the article got removed and the writer left Forbes it only made them look much worse	Jan 09 19:48
fewt	sure sure	Jan 09 19:49
schestowitz	listening is PR talk	Jan 09 19:49
fewt	well	Jan 09 19:49
schestowitz	like the word jono et al. use	Jan 09 19:49
fewt	listening could be pr talk	Jan 09 19:49
schestowitz	"we listen to the community"	Jan 09 19:49
fewt	lol @ jono	Jan 09 19:49
MinceR	jono doesn't even do much listening	Jan 09 19:49
schestowitz	It's just marketing talk	Jan 09 19:49
fewt	we listen but we don't act	Jan 09 19:49
MinceR	he's not very good at it, is he?	Jan 09 19:49
schestowitz	Conversation on payroll takes resources	Jan 09 19:49
fewt	goes in one ear and out the other!	Jan 09 19:49
schestowitz	What they actually tru to achieve ir reframing of public debate	Jan 09 19:50
schestowitz	they can listen to public debate, read the critics	Jan 09 19:50
schestowitz	the criticism are well understood by them	Jan 09 19:50
fewt	Have you joined the UEFI standards body?	Jan 09 19:50
fewt	a seat there would get you closer to being heard whenever you want	Jan 09 19:50
schestowitz	So it's about talking back, trying to influence the critics, not about listening	Jan 09 19:50
fewt	Canonical and RedHat sit on that board.	Jan 09 19:50
fewt	just an idea.	Jan 09 19:50
schestowitz	it's a corproate thing	Jan 09 19:51
schestowitz	They welcome companies that use UEFI or sel hardware	Jan 09 19:51
schestowitz	Visit their site	Jan 09 19:51
schestowitz	It's no place for public paarticicpants	Jan 09 19:51
schestowitz	stakeholders and shareholder of Intel and its partners	Jan 09 19:52
MinceR	maybe Canonical and Red Hat are making the same mistake BeOS, Inc. did	Jan 09 19:52
fewt	Techrights is a non-profit right?	Jan 09 19:52
schestowitz	It pregtends to have .org status	Jan 09 19:52
fewt	oh	Jan 09 19:52
schestowitz	It's really a front for Intel and ilk, inc. Apple and MSFT	Jan 09 19:52
schestowitz	Mostly US companies	Jan 09 19:52
schestowitz	Watch their site, check all the 9 or so key members	Jan 09 19:52
fewt	I'm not going to say it's a mistake, or not a mistake. I don't really know. The concept is a really good one.	Jan 09 19:52
schestowitz	And check who management works for	Jan 09 19:53
MinceR	what concept?	Jan 09 19:53
fewt	but the implementation, ehhh it isn't very good.	Jan 09 19:53
schestowitz	(only/amost all Intel)	Jan 09 19:53
schestowitz	I researched their background before our conference call	Jan 09 19:53
MinceR	an extremely bloated boot firmware built on broken m$ "technology" that partly resides on the hard drive?	Jan 09 19:53
schestowitz	[19:55] <fewt> Techrights is a non-profit right?	Jan 09 19:53
schestowitz	Deeo in losses	Jan 09 19:53
schestowitz	If it was a business	Jan 09 19:53
MinceR	and also includes lock-in	Jan 09 19:53
schestowitz	Which it's not	Jan 09 19:53
MinceR	disguised as "security" (as usual)	Jan 09 19:53
fewt	MinceR, the ability to enforce signed bootstrap is good. The implementation, not so much.	Jan 09 19:54
schestowitz	The only person who had paid 6 pounds monthly for a couple of months cancelled this morning	Jan 09 19:54
fewt	schestowitz, oic, fair enough.	Jan 09 19:54
schestowitz	so there's no donations	Jan 09 19:54
fewt	oh wow	Jan 09 19:54
fewt	sorry to hear that	Jan 09 19:54
MinceR	fewt: the ability is only valid and trustworthy if it doesn't include any keys by default	Jan 09 19:54
MinceR	same as the TPM, including a key shows their true intentions.	Jan 09 19:54
fewt	MinceR: I agree with that completely	Jan 09 19:54
schestowitz	esp. the 'sescure' boot stuff	Jan 09 19:54
fewt	schestowitz, keeping the lights on is the biggest challenge an FOSS project faces in my experience.	Jan 09 19:55
schestowitz	I basically told them, dtop this and then UEFI is mostly OK	Jan 09 19:55
fewt	that's one of the reasons I was happy to see RedHat bring the CentOS devs on board.	Jan 09 19:55
schestowitz	And compared it to DRM, their president agreed with me on it	Jan 09 19:55
schestowitz	They'll get lots of negative press until or unless they stop this remote-controlling thing	Jan 09 19:55
schestowitz	!google nsa says boot brick	Jan 09 19:55
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - If You Use Microsoft Windows, the NSA Can Brick Your Computer ... \| http://techrights.org/2013/06/24/nsa-and-uefi/	Jan 09 19:55
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - NSA Confirms Remote Computer Bricking by BIOS (or UEFI) as a ... \| http://techrights.org/2013/12/16/boot-process-threat/	Jan 09 19:55
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Infosecurity - China's Plot to Brick the US Economy \| http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/36149/chinas-plot-to-brick-the-us-economy/	Jan 09 19:55
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - '60 Minutes' BIOS Plot May Be NSA Invention – Tom's Guide \| http://www.tomsguide.com/us/60-minutes-bios-plot-nsa,news-17988.html	Jan 09 19:55
fewt	icecrawler, are you still running Fuduntu by the way? Also, I don't believe we've met before (though I could be wrong about that, I've met a lot of people in irc over the years)	Jan 09 19:56
schestowitz	Now they have a US consortium well set to do this	Jan 09 19:56
schestowitz	brick any PC in the world using a TCO/IP packet	Jan 09 19:56
schestowitz	*TCP	Jan 09 19:56
schestowitz	fewt: MS tried to schmooze centos	Jan 09 19:57
schestowitz	for years	Jan 09 19:57
schestowitz	inclouding Sandy gupta from SCO	Jan 09 19:57
schestowitz	Who now works for MSFT	Jan 09 19:57
fewt	meh	Jan 09 19:57
schestowitz	So for CentOS is was escaping to the giant that's not MSFT	Jan 09 19:57
fewt	didn't seem to work. :)	Jan 09 19:57
schestowitz	Although Red Hat itself has bad interests to do with IBM as key partner, now more so with MSFT too (virt-wise)	Jan 09 19:57
fewt	That's the nature of business.	Jan 09 19:58
fewt	RedHat is always going to have to have some sort of a relationship with companies who have bad histories.	Jan 09 19:59
fewt	Well, I'm out for a bit. Later!	Jan 09 20:01
schestowitz	well, it does not stretch as far as giving its patents to MSFT and PAYING MS for other people's hard work	Jan 09 20:01
MinceR	o/	Jan 09 20:01
schestowitz	:-) laters	Jan 09 20:03
iophk	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/09/anonymous-search-tool-duckduckgo-1bn-queries-2013-google	Jan 09 20:16
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| Anonymous search tool DuckDuckGo answered 1bn queries in 2013 \| Technology \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdlze ]	Jan 09 20:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/421377129306021888	Jan 09 20:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@glynmoody: @schestowitz in what sense?	Jan 09 20:30
schestowitz	Shifting debate from death of one man into statistics	Jan 09 20:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/421377176273833984	Jan 09 20:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@glynmoody: @schestowitz you mean by moving away from the present case?	Jan 09 20:32
schestowitz	exactly, debate-shifting. Cleverly done to improve the image of British police. Home Office cited.	Jan 09 20:32
Sosumi	when evil fights evil (IBM), good as a chance to actually put up some fight	Jan 09 20:33
schestowitz	and comparing UK #s to US is like comparing #obama to #bush - will they do same re penal system (US had majority pop' there)?	Jan 09 20:34
Sosumi	red hat and ibm have both done good stuff for linux	Jan 09 20:34
Sosumi	although IBM actually did the usual crap	Jan 09 20:34
Sosumi	and as of late even partnered with M$ for some patent deal amendments	Jan 09 20:35
Sosumi	and secure boot should either be trashed or the user be allowed to sign his own keys	Jan 09 20:36
Sosumi	and as for crapple, they totally trashed secure boot	Jan 09 20:36
schestowitz	IIRC (no URL offhand), deaths in police custody high in UK; also, can't compare police # to "world's policeman" (US)	Jan 09 20:36
MinceR	it would be best to trash the whole of uefi in favor of something that was actually engineered	Jan 09 20:37
Sosumi	or that	Jan 09 20:37
MinceR	(not "what m$ crap could we glue on top of this trash heap today?")	Jan 09 20:37
Sosumi	and the firmware source code being accessible wouldn't be bad either	Jan 09 20:38
Sosumi	instead of just those .cap files	Jan 09 20:38
jono	schestowitz I listen to the community	Jan 09 20:39
jono	but I appreciate that you will never see that	Jan 09 20:39
MinceR	also no kitchen sinks	Jan 09 20:40
Sosumi	yeah, you could always audit the code	Jan 09 20:41
Sosumi	which in this day and age should be there as an option	Jan 09 20:41
Sosumi	even introducing slight variations to code would be good	Jan 09 20:41
Sosumi	instead of having total homogeneity	Jan 09 20:42
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3499858	Jan 09 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For crackers, question may no longer be "ARE there any flaws in this piece of proprietary s/w?" Question now: "WHERE are the backdoors?"	Jan 09 20:48
schestowitz	"The point is that they always knew they could find a hole in commercial trash. Now, despite continued denials and misdirection, we have proof of why."	Jan 09 20:48
schestowitz	jono: anyone can tune in, the debate is public	Jan 09 20:49
schestowitz	it's good that people like you are there to act as moral compass for peripheral interests, such as community	Jan 09 20:49
jono	schestowitz community is not a peripheral interest	Jan 09 20:50
jono	it is a core part of what we do	Jan 09 20:50
MinceR	:D	Jan 09 20:50
fewt	I don't think I can agree with that at all.	Jan 09 20:59
fewt	but that's just my opinion.	Jan 09 20:59
fewt	:D	Jan 09 20:59
gde33	if a string of letters is a kind of property, howmany letters do I need? If someone would own BP they couldn't expect me not to reproduce the full text of their property in the chat.	Jan 09 21:24
gde33	howmany words do we need?	Jan 09 21:24
gde33	say I write a text and produce a data uri	Jan 09 21:24
gde33	am I the only one who can post that link?	Jan 09 21:25
gde33	o god I find text of many crazy court cases explaining all this in "detail"	Jan 09 21:27
gde33	".....There's No Business Like No Business" (sung to the tune of "There's No Business Like Show Business"), Judge Metzner decided that the issue of copyright infringement was closer, requiring a trial because in each case the parodies relied on the same verbal hooks ("always" and "business") as the originals.	Jan 09 21:28
MinceR	it's madness	Jan 09 21:37
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Sosumi	jono, "a house divided wont stand tall"	Jan 09 21:46
jono	Sosumi, agreed	Jan 09 21:47
Sosumi	so yes keeping at least a sense of community is important	Jan 09 21:47
MinceR	i just hope that applications that target ubuntu/unity will remain usable on other distros and DEs	Jan 09 21:48
schestowitz	http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2014/01/great-news-from-buylinuxcdscouk.html	Jan 09 22:04
TechrightsBot-tr	linuxblog.darkduck.com \| Great News from BuyLinuxCDs.co.uk - Linux notes from DarkDuck [ http://ur1.ca/gdmh1 ]	Jan 09 22:04
schestowitz	MinceR: I use Canonical PPAs in Kubuntu	Jan 09 22:05
schestowitz	and that works well	Jan 09 22:05
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500665	Jan 09 22:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Reform of EU copyright rules: your chance to give your views! http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/reform-eu-copyright-rules-your-chance-give-your-views #kroes says they're listening to _GASP_ people	Jan 09 22:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> ec.europa.eu \| Reform of EU copyright rules: your chance to give your views! - European Commission [ http://ur1.ca/gdiug ]	Jan 09 22:06
schestowitz	"The same way they listened to Ireland?"	Jan 09 22:06
schestowitz	Can always try, it's better to try than to patrionise the opening	Jan 09 22:06
MinceR	schestowitz: i mean API and windowing system compatibility	Jan 09 22:07
schestowitz	*patronise	Jan 09 22:07
schestowitz	MinceR: Mir and all?	Jan 09 22:07
MinceR	not sure	Jan 09 22:07
schestowitz	How will that affect things, qt/gtk, kwin/mir?	Jan 09 22:07
MinceR	i don't know	Jan 09 22:07
schestowitz	Martin of KWin is upset att Mir	Jan 09 22:07
schestowitz	so that might mean KDE distros would not work or work well with future ubuntu apps	Jan 09 22:08
schestowitz	I think he now works for Blue Systems, used to be in RHAT IITC	Jan 09 22:08
MinceR	but ubuntu's way of doing everything their way and certain sw developers (especially corporate) idea of just going at the most popular distros is worrying a bit	Jan 09 22:08
schestowitz	!google valve says canonical licensing	Jan 09 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Valve unveils its Steam Machine prototype \| bit-gamer.net \| http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2013/11/05/valve-steam-machine-prototype/1	Jan 09 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Valve's Steam License Causes Linux Packaging Concerns - Slashdot \| http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/11/16/2037231/valves-steam-license-causes-linux-packaging-concerns	Jan 09 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - What Valve's Announcements Mean for Gaming - Slashdot \| http://games.slashdot.org/story/13/09/28/136230/what-valves-announcements-mean-for-gaming	Jan 09 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Canonical licenses H.264 – Theora out for the count? [Updated ... \| http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h264-theora-out-for-the-count-updated	Jan 09 22:08
schestowitz	!google valve says ubuntu licensing	Jan 09 22:09
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Valve's Steam License Causes Linux Packaging Concerns - Slashdot \| http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/11/16/2037231/valves-steam-license-causes-linux-packaging-concerns	Jan 09 22:09
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - [Phoronix] Valve's Steam License Causes Linux Packaging Concerns \| http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dnews_item%26px%3DMTIyOTI	Jan 09 22:09
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Valve - Ubuntu Wiki \| https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve	Jan 09 22:09
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - How Valve's Controversial Move To Linux Is Affecting Windows ... \| http://www.noobslab.com/2012/09/how-valves-controversial-move-to-linux.html	Jan 09 22:09
MinceR	i don't know if client-side decorations will be coming back, for example	Jan 09 22:09
MinceR	(a truly horrid idea)	Jan 09 22:09
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JoeLlama	hrm why boycott novell? just curious	Jan 09 22:37
JoeLlama	I was a CNE back in the 90's	Jan 09 22:37
JoeLlama	welp :) nice visiting	Jan 09 22:59
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Sosumi	mir or should I call it	Jan 09 23:00
Sosumi	mirstake	Jan 09 23:00
Sosumi	but I really have no idea, heard moronical was going to drop the whole gnome foundation	Jan 09 23:01
Sosumi	but since they use QT	Jan 09 23:01
Sosumi	probably it'll work on non ubuntu forks	Jan 09 23:02
MinceR	unless they mangle everything because it has to be different	Jan 09 23:08
MinceR	like with the indicator crapplets	Jan 09 23:08
Sosumi	I doubt they are that masochist	Jan 09 23:12
Sosumi	well, even MIRstake doesn't make sense	Jan 09 23:24
Sosumi	why not just improve wayland/weston	Jan 09 23:25
Sosumi	to me they were just abusing their more dominant position at the time to try to create some lock in	Jan 09 23:26
Sosumi	it was also at that time that markie shutleworm went all apologetic with M$	Jan 09 23:27
MinceR	can wayland/weston run on top of surfaceflinger?	Jan 09 23:28
MinceR	that bit could be useful (since there's plenty of hw that certainly supports surfaceflinger)	Jan 09 23:28
Sosumi	no idea, but they could implement it into wayland/weston	Jan 09 23:29
Sosumi	but for finger stuff	Jan 09 23:29
Sosumi	android is already there for that	Jan 09 23:30
Sosumi	putting full desktop linux on a tablet just doesn't make sense	Jan 09 23:30
Sosumi	like the surface	Jan 09 23:31
Sosumi	or I personally don't like it	Jan 09 23:31
Sosumi	because if I'm going to have a portable device like a tablet, I want it to be always on	Jan 09 23:32
Sosumi	like android	Jan 09 23:32
Sosumi	on the case of the surface, that isn't so	Jan 09 23:32
Sosumi	because of the battery duration and heat	Jan 09 23:32
Sosumi	and before the arm comments arrive	Jan 09 23:33
Sosumi	not all sw works on it	Jan 09 23:33
MinceR	actually, running GNU/Linux/X on a tablet makes plenty of sense	Jan 09 23:33
MinceR	when you consider that they're much lighter than x86 laptops and last much longer on battery	Jan 09 23:34
MinceR	and (at least in the Tegra line) GPUs are coming with full profile OpenGL support	Jan 09 23:34
Sosumi	yeah, but android does that fine	Jan 09 23:34
MinceR	so more GNU/Linux/X games could run on it that way	Jan 09 23:34
MinceR	also, x2x and x2vnc could work	Jan 09 23:34
MinceR	can android capture the pointer or warp it, for example?	Jan 09 23:35
MinceR	then again, this sort of gaming is not such a high priority for me	Jan 09 23:35
Sosumi	I was referring to simply grabbing desktop linux and slapping it on a surface type tablet	Jan 09 23:35
Sosumi	that is horrible	Jan 09 23:36
MinceR	and if i really want an x2x hub, i can also use the raspberry pi for that	Jan 09 23:36
MinceR	the x86 surface or the ARM one?	Jan 09 23:36
MinceR	(both are crap, of course)	Jan 09 23:36
Sosumi	the x86	Jan 09 23:36
MinceR	that's probably no better than the convertible tablet pc i use now	Jan 09 23:36
MinceR	heavy, won't last on battery, uses active cooling (so you need to watch where you grab it)	Jan 09 23:37
Sosumi	yes they are trash, but the x86 is the only one that tries to put the typical desktop on a tablet	Jan 09 23:37
Sosumi	and the experience is horrendous	Jan 09 23:37
Sosumi	much better to simply have a normal laptop	Jan 09 23:37
MinceR	i'm not sure about that	Jan 09 23:37
Sosumi	kde on a tablet, anyone?	Jan 09 23:37
MinceR	there's the plasma active thing	Jan 09 23:38
MinceR	though i don't know if that can run x clients or not	Jan 09 23:38
Sosumi	hitting all those small icons and menus	Jan 09 23:38
MinceR	in any case, the occasional dual boot into X would be a nice option	Jan 09 23:38
Sosumi	talk about imputing some data on matlab	Jan 09 23:38
MinceR	you can reconfigure them to be bigger	Jan 09 23:38
Sosumi	or on terminal	Jan 09 23:38
Sosumi	I need an actual kb for actually be productive	Jan 09 23:39
MinceR	or use a stylus	Jan 09 23:39
MinceR	some tablets come with a wacom digitizer	Jan 09 23:39
Sosumi	and having a virtual kb eating half of the screen is just, pffff	Jan 09 23:39
MinceR	i have a usb keyboard	Jan 09 23:39
Sosumi	like the surface	Jan 09 23:39
Sosumi	and the handwrite recognition isn't accurate	Jan 09 23:40
MinceR	but in some cases i might prefer a virtual keyboard	Jan 09 23:40
MinceR	i stopped using handwriting recognition back when i used a palm	Jan 09 23:40
Sosumi	grafitti typeset worked well	Jan 09 23:41
MinceR	not too well	Jan 09 23:42
MinceR	even MessagEase was more usable	Jan 09 23:42
MinceR	but those resistive touchscreens were insensitive as a rock	Jan 09 23:43
Sosumi	I had a m130	Jan 09 23:43
MinceR	i had a Tungsten E2	Jan 09 23:43
Sosumi	one of those cheap models with a color display	Jan 09 23:43
Sosumi	and it was okish	Jan 09 23:43
MinceR	which bricked itself after a year and a month	Jan 09 23:43
Sosumi	the battery	Jan 09 23:44
Sosumi	kind of died after 2 years	Jan 09 23:44
Sosumi	and it was kind of stingy with the mmc cards	Jan 09 23:45
Sosumi	some, it wouldn't just read them	Jan 09 23:45
MinceR	i only had sd cards	Jan 09 23:45
Sosumi	no	Jan 09 23:45
Sosumi	but at that time	Jan 09 23:46
Sosumi	mmc was the standard	Jan 09 23:46
Sosumi	and that model only supported mmc	Jan 09 23:46
MinceR	i know it was the standard earlier :)	Jan 09 23:46
Sosumi	even my nokia 9500	Jan 09 23:46
Sosumi	which I got in release back in late 2005	Jan 09 23:46
Sosumi	only supported mmc	Jan 09 23:46
Sosumi	*on	Jan 09 23:47
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500515	Jan 09 23:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How the #NSA nearly destroyed the #internet http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/08/how-the-us-almost-killed-the-internet	Jan 09 23:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.wired.co.uk \| How the NSA nearly destroyed the internet (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/gdmwm ]	Jan 09 23:48
schestowitz	"The Internet is part of 'military space', it has been since the beginning - through the deterritorialization brought about by capital (which is now virtual, and in many cases, the circulation of information) and its merger with geostrategy, cyberspace is about informational warfare and a 'deterritorialized' site of power. All of this NSA stuff was predicted in the 1980s&90s through cyber theory and the obscure branches of philosophy,	Jan 09 23:48
schestowitz	so if one is initially exposed to that particular discourse it is not really a surprise that these multinational giants would be subject to the security state...."	Jan 09 23:48
Sosumi	a reminder	Jan 10 00:03
Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/12/Household%20Income%20DC%20vs%20US_2.jpg	Jan 10 00:03
Sosumi	and GN	Jan 10 00:03
schestowitz	"The Internet is part of 'military space', it has been since the beginning - through the deterritorialization brought about by capital (which is now virtual, and in many cases, the circulation of information) and its merger with geostrategy, cyberspace is about informational warfare and a 'deterritorialized' site of power. All of this NSA stuff was predicted in the 1980s&90s through cyber theory and the obscure branches of philosophy (	Jan 10 00:06
schestowitz	ex: Way back in the day Virillio spoke of the personal computer as a "domestic surveillance terminal") so if one is initially exposed to that particular discourse it is not really a surprise that the security apparatuses have 'infiltrated' the Internet - they were there all along. Its also not a surprise that the multinational giants of the Virtual Class would be subject to the security state, seeing as how the private industry helped	Jan 10 00:06
schestowitz	engineer it."	Jan 10 00:06
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schestowitz	Sosumi: thanks, I used all your links from earlier	Jan 10 00:07
schestowitz	posted in social media sites	Jan 10 00:07
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schestowitz	British PP is collapsing http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/blog/2014/jan/9/reflections-former-nominating-officer/	Jan 10 00:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pirateparty.org.uk \| Reflections of a Former Nominating Officer - Pirate Party UK [ http://ur1.ca/gdn2j ]	Jan 10 00:17
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500048	Jan 10 00:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245253/Intel_trumpets_Android_Windows_as_more_choice_ better than Windows-only (Wintel)	Jan 10 00:19
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.computerworld.com \| Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1b ]	Jan 10 00:19
schestowitz	"Nothing is quite as easy as GNU/Linux but you won't see Intel trumpeting that."	Jan 10 00:19
icecrawler	because linux is useless	Jan 10 00:23
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MinceR	yet another troll	Jan 10 00:23
schestowitz	good, he won!	Jan 10 00:23
MinceR	lol	Jan 10 00:24
schestowitz	1999 called. It wants its trolls back.	Jan 10 00:24
schestowitz	"linux is useless"	Jan 10 00:24
schestowitz	Void of sunstance	Jan 10 00:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP launches Android powered All-in-One desktop	Jan 10 01:14
TweetTuxMachines	for business users http://t.co/n2Y9LsNTsN	Jan 10 01:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Roku gets sucked into TVs	Jan 10 01:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nGlX37pNlQ	Jan 10 01:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdna2	Jan 10 01:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best word processors for GNU/Linux	Jan 10 01:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qp6Of3cnpi	Jan 10 01:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| HP launches Android powered All-in-One desktop for business users \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 01:14
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Roku gets sucked into TVs \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 01:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Best word processors for GNU/Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 01:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Linux Setup - Allan Day, GNOME Designer	Jan 10 01:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/afAk9eDUSI	Jan 10 01:14
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The Linux Setup - Allan Day, GNOME Designer \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 01:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Anatomy of a 22-year-old X Window bug: Get root	Jan 10 01:14
TweetTuxMachines	with newly uncovered flaw	Jan 10 01:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4wqurgafux	Jan 10 01:14
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Anatomy of a 22-year-old X Window bug: Get root with newly uncovered flaw \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 01:14
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:07
DaemonFC	During Christmas, they were paying people $75 gift cards to take $49 iPhone 5c (with contract). iirc, the iPhone 5S, which is slightly less slow was $129 and then you got a $75 gift card.	Jan 10 04:07
DaemonFC	Since Apple's share of the US smart phone market dropped from 53 to 43% last year, as people migrate to Android, they're trying to stop the bleeding.	Jan 10 04:07
DaemonFC	http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57616679-37/iphone-market-share-shrinks-as-android-windows-phone-grow/	Jan 10 04:07
TechrightsBot-tr	news.cnet.com \| iPhone market share shrinks as Android, Windows Phone grow \| Apple - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gdo2t ]	Jan 10 04:07
DaemonFC	So, they were paying them $26 to take an iPhone.	Jan 10 04:07
DaemonFC	I wouldn't take one if they gave me a $100 bill. I came back and got my G2 when it went on the Cyber Monday sale.	Jan 10 04:07
DaemonFC	Also, the iPhone 5S is still having random application crashes, and reboots itself. Typical reliability problems for an Apple phone. Perhaps you're "holding it wrong" again.	Jan 10 04:07
DaemonFC	http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/02/iphone-5s-review-2014/	Jan 10 04:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.gottabemobile.com \| iPhone 5s Review: 100 Days with Apple's New iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gc3zb ]	Jan 10 04:07
DaemonFC	The slow, unstable, technically obsolete "crystal prison" called iPhone is tanking.	Jan 10 04:07
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:14
DaemonFC	http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/17/technology/apple-china-jobs/	Jan 10 04:14
DaemonFC	"How do you convince a great American company to bring that manufacturing back here?"	Jan 10 04:14
DaemonFC	I don't know. Which company are you talking about? :	Jan 10 04:14
TechrightsBot-tr	money.cnn.com \| Why Apple will never bring manufacturing jobs back to U.S. - Oct. 17, 2012 [ http://ur1.ca/gdo3s ]	Jan 10 04:14
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:28
DaemonFC	As soon as the American people are willing to work 12-16 hour shifts, 6-7 days a week, for 25 cents an hour, with no overtime pay, no health insurance, no worker's comp, no Social Security, submit to forced abortions, agree to be exposed to hazardous chemicals throughout their entire shift, live in lice-infested company dorms, eat bad food with bugs living in it from the company cafeteria, and have the company dock half their pay to pay for	Jan 10 04:28
DaemonFC	this "room and board", companies like Apple will gladly bring the jobs back to the USA.	Jan 10 04:28
DaemonFC	You just have to agree to give up everything. And, of course, like Apple's factories in China, there will be worker suicides every single day, but those people are not important, and everyone can be replaced tomorrow, including you.	Jan 10 04:28
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:42
DaemonFC	"Apple never played for market share, it has always played for the premium."	Jan 10 04:42
DaemonFC	Yes, the premium Apple products. You get a premium $75 Walmart gift card when you buy the premium $49 Apple product at Walmart. Then you can go get yourself some premium Walmart underwear on the way out! ;)	Jan 10 04:42
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:43
DaemonFC	http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/5550.jpg	Jan 10 04:43
DaemonFC	This is why all of the gold ones sold out.	Jan 10 04:43
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:52
DaemonFC	Well, anyone that thinks the economy is in the crapper now had better wait until the right-wing politicians allow Social Security and Medicare to run out of money. Imagine adding 60 million more people who have no jobs or money to this economy, and then millions of nurses aides, nurses, an doctors who were making their living from Medicare are unemployed on top of that. It's not too difficult to imagine a future where 100 million Americans (	Jan 10 04:52
DaemonFC	maybe more) are unemployed, have no income, and have no health care.	Jan 10 04:52
DaemonFC	Maybe there is something to this "government is stocking up on bullets" thing. I don't know. It's just a guess. They're either going to have to fix it or get ready to shoot everyone that starts rioting when the entire system falls apart.	Jan 10 04:52
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 05:17
DaemonFC	We had modern graphical user interfaces in the 1990s, just not on Macs. I think you must have missed this thing called Windows 95.	Jan 10 05:17
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DaemonFC	http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/01/man-allegedly-kills-stepdad-with-atomic-wedgie/	Jan 10 06:00
TechrightsBot-tr	abcnews.go.com \| Man Allegedly Kills Stepdad with ‘Atomic Wedgie’ - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/gdoib ]	Jan 10 06:00
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedgie	Jan 10 06:02
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Wedgie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	Jan 10 06:02
DaemonFC	On the 9th of January 2014 multiple news sources reported the first confirmed death by atomic wedgie. Brad Lee-Davis, a 33 year old Oklahoma native, is alleged to have drunkenly fought with his stepfather 58 year old Denver Lee-St. Clair. During the altercation Lee-Davis grabbed Lee-St. Clair's elastic wasitband and underwear, pulled it over his head, and suffocated him with the waistband. [4] Oklahoma Medical Examiner spokeswoman Amy Elliot	Jan 10 06:02
DaemonFC	t said the cause of death was asphyxiation and blunt force trauma.[5]	Jan 10 06:02
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=TxWQ357IAR8U7C&newContentID=MxB35D5BUURI22&newContentNum=40#Mx2SDMKVK45BCMV	Jan 10 06:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Norway is financially solvent [ http://ur1.ca/gdoo5 ]	Jan 10 06:38
DaemonFC	" ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 06:38
DaemonFC	So, when the government is in debt, we pay taxes. When the government is in surplus, we pay taxes. When the government wants to stockpile money, we pay taxes and are forced to sit back and watch while the government slashes programs and services that benefited almost all of us, and cuts taxes on the rich.	Jan 10 06:38
DaemonFC	That's what happened here in Indiana. Those surpluses didn't come from nowhere. The newspaper in Kokomo pointed out that the mother of a man with spina bifida had to fight the state medicaid office for years while they kept sending denial notices and "losing the paperwork" she sent in.	Jan 10 06:38
DaemonFC	That's where the state surpluses are coming from. They're coming from a lot of places. That's why the highways aren't being plowed and salted in a timely manner. That's why classrooms are overcrowded and schools are begging McDonalds, Coca Cola, and Microsoft for money and computers. Microsoft is very happy to give schools computers running Windows, for the same reason the cigarette companies were happy to give free cigarettes to children in	Jan 10 06:38
DaemonFC	the 60s.	Jan 10 06:39
DaemonFC	I remember when I was in school, the school got money from Coke in exchange for putting in Coke machines and a "Fruitopia" machine in the lunchroom. That really helps kids pack on the pounds. That's why we have so many 300 pound 12 year olds wheezing up the school steps."	Jan 10 06:39
Sosumi	"Poisontopia"	Jan 10 06:44
DaemonFC	Fruitopia doesn't even exist here anymore.	Jan 10 06:45
DaemonFC	It disappeared from the shelves at the supermarket around 2000-2001?	Jan 10 06:46
DaemonFC	I remember that they had it on tap at the fountains too, at McDonalds and the gas stations.	Jan 10 06:46
DaemonFC	That disappeared sometime around 2003-2004 I think.	Jan 10 06:46
Sosumi	and with crapple bringing "assembly" into the US, well those are the hallmarks of trying to compete with slave labor countries	Jan 10 06:47
DaemonFC	I think what happened was that they stopped making it, but they kept selling off the syrup that they had already produced.	Jan 10 06:47
DaemonFC	So you could get it from the fountains for about two more years.	Jan 10 06:47
Sosumi	you just can't and that is why really defend import tariffs	Jan 10 06:47
Sosumi	disgusting	Jan 10 06:47
DaemonFC	Fountain syrup lasts about a year if it's diet, and about 2-3 years if it's regular.	Jan 10 06:47
DaemonFC	The expiration on regular mountain dew syrup is about 2 years.	Jan 10 06:48
DaemonFC	Most regular syrup is about 3.	Jan 10 06:48
DaemonFC	So, that would account for why it was available at fountains for so long.	Jan 10 06:48
DaemonFC	They probably had an entire warehouse full, so they just kept shipping it out.	Jan 10 06:48
DaemonFC	It was pretty nasty.	Jan 10 06:49
Sosumi	pfffff, so disgusting	Jan 10 06:49
DaemonFC	It used to be a small company.	Jan 10 06:50
DaemonFC	They made it with cane sugar and real fruit juice.	Jan 10 06:50
DaemonFC	Coca Cola took them over and switched it to High Fructose Corn Syrup and "natural flavors".	Jan 10 06:50
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 10 06:50
DaemonFC	I bought it once after Coke started supplying it, and it tasted nothing like it did before.	Jan 10 06:51
Sosumi	so, they cheapened the formula after acquisition	Jan 10 06:51
Sosumi	but I just can't imagine how good a bottled juice might have tasted	Jan 10 06:53
Sosumi	since I've never tasted a good onw	Jan 10 06:53
Sosumi	one	Jan 10 06:53
Sosumi	nor I buy them	Jan 10 06:53
Sosumi	I just eat the fruits or sometimes in the summer	Jan 10 06:54
Sosumi	a really fresh orange juice	Jan 10 06:54
Sosumi	http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/hp-launches-android-powered-one-desktop-business-users/19001	Jan 10 06:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.muktware.com \| HP launches Android powered All-in-One desktop for business users \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gdorr ]	Jan 10 06:59
Sosumi	would make a nice thin client	Jan 10 06:59
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Sosumi	also, how's the weather?	Jan 10 07:05
Sosumi	still kind of buried under the snow?	Jan 10 07:05
amarsh04	41 C, 41 C and 43 C forecast for three days next week here	Jan 10 07:08
DaemonFC	It snowed some more yesterday.	Jan 10 07:15
Sosumi	amarsh04, where are you located?	Jan 10 07:21
Sosumi	australia?	Jan 10 07:21
amarsh04	Adelaide, South Australia	Jan 10 07:22
Sosumi	I guessed it right then :)	Jan 10 07:23
Sosumi	for us it's going to be rain and more rain with temps ranging from 10 to 20ºC	Jan 10 07:24
schestowitz	Sosumi: thanks, posted	Jan 10 08:39
schestowitz	LOL http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/5550.jpg	Jan 10 08:42
schestowitz	http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/02/iphone-5s-review-2014/	Jan 10 08:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.gottabemobile.com \| iPhone 5s Review: 100 Days with Apple's New iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gc3zb ]	Jan 10 08:43
schestowitz	"Apple will need to work hard to keep users interested"	Jan 10 08:43
schestowitz	Cultsa are not interested	Jan 10 08:43
schestowitz	They're mesmerised	Jan 10 08:44
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 09:19
DaemonFC	Structural government surpluses hurt the economy. They're a sign that either the taxes are too high or that the government should be providing more services.	Jan 10 09:19
DaemonFC	Indiana shouldn't be stockpiling several billion dollars. It should build roads. It should build schools. It should expand Medicaid. It should pay off outstanding debt. At the very least, they should give it back on next year's tax returns so that the people of Indiana can spend the money.	Jan 10 09:19
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DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_dollar	Jan 10 09:27
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| History of the United States dollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gdplg ]	Jan 10 09:28
DaemonFC	"In 1963, the words 'PAYABLE TO THE BEARER ON DEMAND' were removed from all newly issued Federal Reserve notes."	Jan 10 09:28
DaemonFC	I've seen those notes in circulation, but it's been about 20 years.	Jan 10 09:28
DaemonFC	They've probably all been destroyed or kept by collectors.	Jan 10 09:28
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/viewing-pirated-streams-is-not-illegal-german-govt-says-140109/	Jan 10 09:44
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Viewing Pirated Streams is Not Illegal, German Govt Says \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gdpo6 ]	Jan 10 09:44
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 10:00
DaemonFC	Speaking of the military....	Jan 10 10:00
DaemonFC	"[Fighting patents with] prior art is like US soldiers in Iraq. They control the ground they stand on and nothing more. I used to say Vietnam, but, well, you know...." -Richard Stallman	Jan 10 10:00
iophk	http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57616983-93/google-begins-to-merge-google-gmail-contacts/	Jan 10 10:26
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iophk	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/10562832/Google-links-social-network-contacts-to-Gmail.html	Jan 10 11:02
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DaemonFC	There's a Free Software Foundation credit card now.	Jan 10 12:18
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 12:24
DaemonFC	The best thing that NAFTA ever did was to deeply harm the economy of Mexico (well that's not the good part, the good part is coming) and scare off Central and South American countries from George W. Bush's proposal to extend NAFTA to be the "free trade area of the Americas". It's also concerning some countries and turning them off to the idea of the Trans Pacific Partnership.	Jan 10 12:24
DaemonFC	These countries are having 3-8% GDP growth and don't want to end up like Mexico's 1 or 2%. They also don't want to let their own citizens die so that US drug companies can make an obscene fortune off of the sick.	Jan 10 12:24
DaemonFC	https://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/01/04-1	Jan 10 12:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.commondreams.org \| NAFTA: 20 Years of Regret for Mexico \| Common Dreams [ http://ur1.ca/gdqcs ]	Jan 10 12:24
DaemonFC	"NAFTA: Twenty Years of Regret for Mexico"	Jan 10 12:24
DaemonFC	Twenty years of regret for the United States working class too. Bill Hicks said it best. I can't remember the exact words, but I'll get as close as I can. "There is no debate about NAFTA. These rich people are going to sell your whole life out from under you.".	Jan 10 12:24
iophk	http://www.salon.com/2014/01/09/the_freedom_bush_touted_for_iraq_looks_more_like_bloody_civil_war_partner/	Jan 10 12:48
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iophk	"M$, too" strategy -- again	Jan 10 14:52
iophk	http://mrpogson.com/2014/01/10/schizophrenic-it-policy-at-european-commission/	Jan 10 14:52
TechrightsBot-tr	mrpogson.com \| Schizophrenic IT Policy at European Commission \| Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gdqz9 ]	Jan 10 14:52
iophk	"ODF is supported only upon request and the documents may contain formatting errors"	Jan 10 14:53
DaemonFC	It seems that the xfce and mate versions of Fedora are using Yum extender.	Jan 10 15:03
DaemonFC	Uggh.	Jan 10 15:03
DaemonFC	I see that it hasn't gotten any faster.	Jan 10 15:03
Sosumi	http://www.anandtech.com/show/7613/asus-p9x79e-ws-review/8	Jan 10 15:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.anandtech.com \| AnandTech \| ASUS P9X79-E WS Review: Xeon meets PLX for 7x [ http://ur1.ca/gdr3h ]	Jan 10 15:19
Sosumi	nice board	Jan 10 15:19
Sosumi	but all the testing was done in vista7	Jan 10 15:19
Sosumi	even through asus, officially supports linux on their WS grade boards	Jan 10 15:20
DaemonFC	It looks like Fedora has been fixing up Compiz.	Jan 10 15:21
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DaemonFC	They dropped the 0.9.x branch that was rewritten in C++ (the one from Ubuntu), and went back to the 0.8.8 branch.	Jan 10 15:21
DaemonFC	The patched up 0.8.8 release is the default window manager on the Fedora MATE spin.	Jan 10 15:21
DaemonFC	It makes sense. The old Compiz branch worked pretty well.	Jan 10 15:22
DaemonFC	I didn't start having major problems with it until I tried the 0.9 series.	Jan 10 15:22
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iophk	http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2014/01/defensive-patent-licence-nice-idea-alas-not-much-use/index.htm	Jan 10 15:45
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TweetTuxMachines	distros: Debian, Ubuntu & CentOS	Jan 10 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Which version of Linux do you use?	Jan 10 15:54
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Sosumi	DaemonFC, weren't you using KDE?	Jan 10 16:00
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Sosumi	and thus kwin	Jan 10 16:00
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_rvt_np?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=TxHBFD2RDXAOUG	Jan 10 16:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Surprise! Walmart health plan is cheaper, offers more coverage than ObamaCare [ http://ur1.ca/gdrmc ]	Jan 10 16:51
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 16:51
DaemonFC	"The medical journal reported a 30-year-old smoker would pay up to $428 per month, in contrast to roughly $70 each month for a Walmart employee."	Jan 10 16:51
DaemonFC	My boyfriend is a 24 year old smoker. For the Affordable Care Act marketplace silver plan, he pays $56 a month.	Jan 10 16:51
DaemonFC	"Walmart individuals face a $2,750 deductible and families need to pay $5,500 under the HRA plan. Individuals pay $1,750 and families pay $3,500 deductibles under the HRA High plan."	Jan 10 16:51
DaemonFC	My boyfriend has no deductible under his ACA marketplace Silver plan. Asking a Walmart employee to come up with $1,750 is ludicrous. You might as well ask them to cough up $175,000. $2,750? **** you! :)	Jan 10 16:51
DaemonFC	No non-management Walmart employee has $1,750 in the bank. Most of them are so poor that they don't even have a bank account. They're living paycheck to paycheck on about $8 an hour, and getting less than 30 hours a week. You do the math and get back to me on where the **** they're going to find $1,750. And that's just the deductible. After you hit the deductible, you still have co-pays, "co-insurance", and a laundry list of other nightmares.	Jan 10 16:51
DaemonFC	My boyfriend's ACA plan has a $500 a month maximum out of pocket cap. Walmart's has no such cap. My boyfriend pays nothing to see his primary care physician under the ACA marketplace silver plan. With Walmart, you have to reach the $1,750 deductible, and then you pay your co-pay. My boyfriend pays $10 to see a specialist. God only knows what Walmart's junk insurance plan makes you pay to see a specialist.	Jan 10 16:51
DaemonFC	"Many top-rated Walmart hospitals - such as the Mayo and Cleveland clinics - are left out of most Obamacare exchange plans."	Jan 10 16:51
DaemonFC	A Walmart employee that makes $8 an hour is not going to the Mayo Clinic, so who gives a rat's ***? My boyfriend's ACA marketplace silver plan covers all hospitals in this area of Indiana, including Parkview, DuPont, and Lutheran.	Jan 10 16:51
DaemonFC	err, $500 a year cap, I meant	Jan 10 16:52
DaemonFC	that's not bad at all	Jan 10 16:52
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 16:56
DaemonFC	It would be better if the government could just send Walmart the bill for all of the public services their employees use, plus all of the administrative costs for running the programs.	Jan 10 16:56
DaemonFC	I have a feeling that they'd get full time hours, real health insurance, and maybe even a raise.	Jan 10 16:56
DaemonFC	I, for one, am tired of paying Hell Mart's employees when I don't even shop there.	Jan 10 16:56
MinceR	geekings	Jan 10 17:01
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2Y70QIIA0WFFL	Jan 10 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: 57% of Republicans are completely and utterly braindead. [ http://ur1.ca/gdrny ]	Jan 10 17:03
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 17:03
DaemonFC	http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/03/republican-views-on-evolution-tracking-how-its-changed/	Jan 10 17:03
DaemonFC	57% of Republicans don't believe in the fact of evolution. I guess that when they get resistant bacterial infections, they stand there and argue with the doctor that penicillin should still work because there's no such thing as evolution.	Jan 10 17:03
DaemonFC	"You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved? You ever noticed that? Eyes real close together, eyebrow ridges, big furry hands and feet. 'I believe God created me in one day'. Yeah, looks like he rushed it!"	Jan 10 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pewresearch.org \| Republicans’ views on evolution \| Pew Research Center [ http://ur1.ca/gdrnz ]	Jan 10 17:03
DaemonFC	-Bill Hicks	Jan 10 17:03
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 17:08
DaemonFC	I heard that Texas is keeping a braindead woman alive on life support to incubate a fetus.	Jan 10 17:08
DaemonFC	I asked why this is news. Texas has plenty of braindead people. Many of them walk around and even vote for Republicans like Rick Perry.	Jan 10 17:08
Sosumi	or Wiltard Mittens Robbery	Jan 10 17:13
MinceR	Rmoney	Jan 10 17:13
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 17:14
DaemonFC	I'm glad that the holidays are over for a while.	Jan 10 17:14
DaemonFC	You find yourself at the dinner table with these people. These people that think that America is special and that the billions of dollars that flow out of taxpayers pockets each year to Israel is an insurance policy between us and The Big Cheese. They haven't managed to notice that their standard of living has been in decline since the 70s, with a brief interruption during the 90s, while everything that was left was busy being dismantled (wh	Jan 10 17:14
DaemonFC	ich caused some economic activity in the process).	Jan 10 17:14
DaemonFC	And now, all of a sudden, it's all Obama's fault.	Jan 10 17:14
DaemonFC	Geniuses....	Jan 10 17:15
DaemonFC	I don't think that people realized what the 1990s "economic miracle" was.	Jan 10 17:17
DaemonFC	"Here. We have a job for you. Take these machines apart and load them on the truck. It's all going to Mexico!"	Jan 10 17:17
DaemonFC	On the news.... "Unemployment is down to 3.8%! Life is good. The future is bright!"	Jan 10 17:17
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 17:23
DaemonFC	And right-wingers sicken me when they say that the minimum wage of $7.25 an hour is all that a human being is worth.	Jan 10 17:23
DaemonFC	Some of them argue for repealing it completely, because they don't even feel that a human being is worth one penny every five seconds.	Jan 10 17:23
DaemonFC	When you ask them why they feel that way, they say that people who make minimum wage deserve it because they have no way of resisting or fighting back. That's what unions used to do for workers. Saying someone deserves whatever they get because they can't fight back? Sounds like someone that's trying to make an excuse for a rapist. In fact, the right-wingers do that as well.	Jan 10 17:23
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 17:26
DaemonFC	I'd like to see the "labor force" fall. It should happen faster. It will bring the pool of available workers down, fewer people will be fighting for bad jobs. If it goes far enough, wages could start rising again.	Jan 10 17:26
DaemonFC	This is one reason why it's important to not have kids.	Jan 10 17:26
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iophk	http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20140110_Snowden_downloaded_1_7M_files__Pentagon_report_concludes.html	Jan 10 18:00
TechrightsBot-tr	www.philly.com \| Snowden downloaded 1.7M files, Pentagon report concludes [ http://ur1.ca/gds2j ]	Jan 10 18:00
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 18:07
DaemonFC	Calling the police because someone farted in class is a waste of police time and taxpayer money.	Jan 10 18:07
DaemonFC	Don't the police have anything better to do? Most areas of the country have some unsolved murders that they could be working on instead.	Jan 10 18:07
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 18:07
DaemonFC	I've got an idea. We slip Fiber One bars into the school lunches. Nobody in the school can stop farting. The governor declares a state of emergency and calls out the National Guard. :)	Jan 10 18:07
MinceR	it seems that the police don't have anything useful to do	Jan 10 18:09
MinceR	ever	Jan 10 18:09
DaemonFC	It does seem like that sometimes.	Jan 10 18:09
DaemonFC	Thank you for protecting us from the guy that wasn't wearing his seatbelt and had a joint in the car that he was planning to smoke later, quietly, in his own home, without bothering anyone.	Jan 10 18:11
DaemonFC	What would we ever do without our brave men and women in law enforcement?	Jan 10 18:11
iophk	http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140110/METRO01/301100080/Police-Cops-who-pulled-Cushingberry-over-wanted-arrest-him	Jan 10 18:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www.detroitnews.com \| Police: Cops who pulled Cushingberry over wanted to arrest him \| The Detroit News [ http://ur1.ca/gds6p ]	Jan 10 18:13
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 18:18
DaemonFC	Does it bother anybody that Republicans that say being gay is sick and unnatural have no problem at all keeping a dead woman on life support for several months to incubate a fetus that is probably going to have severe mental retardation or physical deformities, if it even lives?	Jan 10 18:18
DaemonFC	In reply to your post on Jan 10, 2014 10:18:59 AM PST	Jan 10 18:20
DaemonFC	morehumanthanhuman says:	Jan 10 18:20
DaemonFC	Well, if she didn't want to be brain dead and pregnant on life support, she shouldn't have had sex, am I right?	Jan 10 18:20
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 18:20
DaemonFC	No personal responsibility at all! What is this beautiful country of ours coming to? :P	Jan 10 18:20
Sosumi	union pay and a protective tariff	Jan 10 18:41
Sosumi	and ofc, repudiation of the free exploitation treaties	Jan 10 18:41
Sosumi	aka, nafta	Jan 10 18:42
Sosumi	and no more 7.25$ an hour	Jan 10 18:42
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iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-administration-to-end-contract-with-cgi-federal-company-behind-healthcaregov/2014/01/10/001eb05a-719e-11e3-8b3f-b1666705ca3b_story.html	Jan 10 19:38
iophk	http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/10/white-house-switch-obamacare-contractors-healthcar/	Jan 10 19:38
iophk	http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/10/5295520/white-house-reportedly-dumps-cgi-federal-healthcare-gov	Jan 10 19:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| Obama administration to end contract with CGI Federal, company behind HealthCare.gov - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/gdst6 ]	Jan 10 19:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtontimes.com \| White House switch Obamacare contractors for HealthCare.gov - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/gdst7 ]	Jan 10 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theverge.com \| White House reportedly dumps main Healthcare.gov contractor \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/gdst8 ]	Jan 10 19:39
iophk	First the site is taken over by an M$ agent, who now brings in an M$ sales team to take over.	Jan 10 19:40
iophk	The new contract is not yet signed but it is a risk	Jan 10 19:40
iophk	"CGI will be replaced by Accenture as the primary contractor on Healthcare.gov."	Jan 10 19:40
iophk	"Federal health officials are preparing to sign a 12-month contract worth roughly $90 million, probably early next week, with a different company, Accenture"	Jan 10 19:41
iophk	"CMS is awarding the Accenture contract on a sole-source basis" -- another no-bid deal, a fine tradition carried over from the previous administration.	Jan 10 19:41
iophk	Accenture was the one that did in the LSE too	Jan 10 19:43
iophk	http://www.computerweekly.com/news/1280095139/London-Stock-Exchange-migrates-to-MillenniumIT-platform	Jan 10 19:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerweekly.com \| London Stock Exchange migrates to MillenniumIT platform [ http://ur1.ca/gdsuo ]	Jan 10 19:46
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/26/lse_crash_again/	Jan 10 19:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| London's stock exchange crashes again • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gdsvn ]	Jan 10 19:52
Sosumi	strange	Jan 10 19:59
Sosumi	I thought london was on redhat	Jan 10 19:59
iophk	LSE booted M$ and Accenture a while back	Jan 10 19:59
iophk	both failed too often	Jan 10 19:59
iophk	http://blogs.computerworld.com/17202/london_stock_exchange_moves_to_linux	Jan 10 20:00
TechrightsBot-tr	blogs.computerworld.com \| London Stock Exchange moves to Linux \| Computerworld Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/24wst ]	Jan 10 20:00
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 10 20:00
Sosumi	so my memory didn't fail me	Jan 10 20:00
Sosumi	:)	Jan 10 20:00
iophk	There are some interests that really want ACA to fail. So it is no surprise that they brought in a 'former' M$ staffer and less of a surprise that it brought in an M$ sales team. Probably to make it really fail they will bring in IIS and .NOT	Jan 10 20:06
iophk	all that would guarantee spectacular failure	Jan 10 20:07
iophk	and lock-in	Jan 10 20:09
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3498104	Jan 10 20:09
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google wants an Android in every Audi and Honda http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/ces/10553554/Google-wants-an-Android-in-every-Audi-and-Honda.html #surveillance in every car unless we can reflash with Replicant	Jan 10 20:09
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Google wants an Android in every Audi and Honda - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gdc2j ]	Jan 10 20:09
schestowitz	"@Vostok You really think it's just Audi and Honda because of the installed Android? http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1 "	Jan 10 20:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.businessinsider.com \| Ford Exec: 'We Know Everyone Who Breaks The Law' Thanks To Our GPS In Your Car - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gdsyn ]	Jan 10 20:09
Sosumi	I think if M$ dropped the registry and all the bloat	Jan 10 20:10
iophk	and the OS itself	Jan 10 20:10
Sosumi	they'd be able to actually make winblows reliable	Jan 10 20:10
iophk	maybe if they dropped the kernel too	Jan 10 20:10
Sosumi	no idea how bad or good the winblows kernel is	Jan 10 20:10
iophk	they could restart with FreeBSD kernel and GNU user space and a tricked out KDE for the UI	Jan 10 20:10
Sosumi	and pull an apple	Jan 10 20:11
Sosumi	because that is what apple does	Jan 10 20:11
MinceR	what iophk said	Jan 10 20:11
MinceR	well, crApple could improve a lot too, if they didn't mangle FreeBSD so much	Jan 10 20:11
MinceR	if they used X instead of their useless windowing system	Jan 10 20:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500321	Jan 10 20:11
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Millions of fools use #amazon (close #cia partner) thinking that they get anonymous (NOT! &Microsoft-friendly) search http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/09/anonymous-search-tool-duckduckgo-1bn-queries-2013-google	Jan 10 20:11
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| Anonymous search tool DuckDuckGo answered 1bn queries in 2013 \| Technology \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdlze ]	Jan 10 20:11
schestowitz	"	Jan 10 20:11
schestowitz	The conversations I've seen with Diaspora developers never hid or denied the problems with AWS. This is one of the reasons joindiaspora is no longer taking new users.	Jan 10 20:11
schestowitz	The FAQ talks about privacy in general,	Jan 10 20:11
schestowitz	How much of my information can my pod administrator see?	Jan 10 20:11
schestowitz	... the storage of data on pods is not encrypted. If they wanted to, the database administrator for your pod (usually the person running the pod) could access all your profile data and everything that you post (as is the case for most websites that store user data). Running your own pod provides more privacy since you then control access to the database.	Jan 10 20:11
schestowitz	"	Jan 10 20:11
Sosumi	yep, windowsserver is terrible	Jan 10 20:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3501100	Jan 10 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: DC http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/12/Household%20Income%20DC%20vs%20US_2.jpg	Jan 10 20:12
schestowitz	"No page found.:	Jan 10 20:12
schestowitz	Need to cpy and paste the link in browser. Odd. JD bug?	Jan 10 20:13
Sosumi	and it isn't just windowserver that is terrible, but also crapple's implementation of x11	Jan 10 20:21
schestowitz	implementation?	Jan 10 20:22
schestowitz	IOr compat?	Jan 10 20:22
Sosumi	xquartz	Jan 10 20:22
schestowitz	Or lack thereof after some years back?	Jan 10 20:22
Sosumi	no, there was x11 and then crapple deprecated it into a "community maintained" version called xquartz	Jan 10 20:23
Sosumi	which means,	Jan 10 20:23
Sosumi	if with x11, bugs took a while to fix	Jan 10 20:23
Sosumi	with xquarts they take an eternity	Jan 10 20:23
Sosumi	so I don't really recommend doing any serious work with programs that require X to work on osx	Jan 10 20:24
Sosumi	chances are, it will crash and you lose your work	Jan 10 20:25
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/01/for-playstation-now-streaming-the-devils-in-the-unknown-details/	Jan 10 20:28
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| For PlayStation Now streaming, the devil’s in the unknown details \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gdt1i ]	Jan 10 20:28
Sosumi	as it looks, some ps games will play on tablets (probably only sony's)	Jan 10 20:29
Sosumi	and "smart"tvs	Jan 10 20:29
Sosumi	$ony does what micro$oftdon't	Jan 10 20:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora 20 (Peach) released with a side of	Jan 10 20:53
TweetTuxMachines	website refreshments http://t.co/3ATqTBihnV	Jan 10 20:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdt6n	Jan 10 20:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Ended 2013 With 46k Open Bug Reports	Jan 10 20:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Korora 20 (Peach) released with a side of website refreshments \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 20:53
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Av0eCuZ2zc	Jan 10 20:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME Ended 2013 With 46k Open Bug Reports \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 20:53
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iophk	http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/01/09/3860169/innovative-move-by-wwe-with-first.html	Jan 10 21:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.miamiherald.com \| Innovative move by WWE with first 24/7 live streaming service network launch - Wrestling - MiamiHerald.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdtby ]	Jan 10 21:22
iophk	leaving cable and ppv behind in the dust	Jan 10 21:22
schestowitz__	good	Jan 10 21:22
schestowitz__	it'll possibly weaken broadvcat	Jan 10 21:23
schestowitz__	i.e. brainwash	Jan 10 21:23
schestowitz__	that said, the www is being taken over by MPAA and ilk	Jan 10 21:23
schestowitz__	under Tim B-L's watch	Jan 10 21:23
schestowitz__	and net neutrality is on its death throes	Jan 10 21:23
iophk	Is he still boosting DRM despite once promoting the open WWW?	Jan 10 21:24
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500745	Jan 10 21:24
TechrightsBot-tr	@psychonot@pod.orkz.net: Been busting @{Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ; schestowitz@joindiaspora.com}'s balls all day (mainly because we disagree on a lot) but all in all my thread would not be what it is without him.	Jan 10 21:24
iophk	How long will HBO remain on cable?	Jan 10 21:24
schestowitz__	"Also Roy I thought you might be interested in this whonix@pod.orkz.net"	Jan 10 21:24
schestowitz__	iophk: he welcomed MPAA to W3C	Jan 10 21:24
schestowitz__	I thought you had heard	Jan 10 21:24
schestowitz__	Big news some days ago	Jan 10 21:25
iophk	I missed that. I just knew about the DRM	Jan 10 21:25
schestowitz__	!google mpaa w3c	Jan 10 21:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Not Cool: MPAA Joins The W3C \| Techdirt \| http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140107/11263425789/not-cool-mpaa-joins-w3c.shtml	Jan 10 21:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - The MPAA just joined the W3C, what could possibly go wrong ... \| http://www.geek.com/apps/the-mpaa-just-joined-the-w3c-what-could-possibly-go-wrong-1581563/	Jan 10 21:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Not Cool: MPAA Joins The W3C : technology - Reddit \| http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1unig0/not_cool_mpaa_joins_the_w3c/	Jan 10 21:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - MPAA joins W3C, giving it a voice on the future of the web - AfterDawn \| http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2014/01/08/mpaa_joins_w3c_giving_it_a_voice_on_the_future_of_the_web	Jan 10 21:25
iophk	ouch ouch ouch	Jan 10 21:25
schestowitz__	!google mpaa install spyware on pc	Jan 10 21:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - RIAA/MPAA Want Government-Mandated Spyware That Deletes ... \| http://gizmodo.com/5517850/riaampaa-want-government%2Bmandated-spyware-that-deletes-infringing-content-automatically	Jan 10 21:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Protecting Your PC - University of Wisconsin - Green Bay \| http://www.uwgb.edu/resnet/protectYourPC.htm	Jan 10 21:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Hotfile ordered to pay damages, install copyright ... - PC Advisor \| http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/internet/3492128/hotfile-ordered-to-pay-damages-install-copyright-filtering-says-mpaa/	Jan 10 21:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Dell's Twitter Account Apologizes For The 'Inconvenience' Of ... \| http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131230/17174425718/dells-twitter-account-apologizes-inconvenience-helping-nsa-place-hidden-bios-bug.shtml	Jan 10 21:25
iophk	http://ces.cnet.com/8301-35296_1-57616860/mpaa-joins-web-standards-group-amid-video-drm-dispute/	Jan 10 21:27
TechrightsBot-tr	ces.cnet.com \| MPAA joins Web standards group amid video DRM dispute \| CES 2014: Home Theater and Audio - CNET Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/gdtcp ]	Jan 10 21:27
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 21:57
DaemonFC	I'm glad that I'm not a woman. I don't mean that as disrespect to women. I'm just glad that I don't have those particular body parts that "small government Republicans that want to get government out of your healthcare" are so hell bent on regulating.	Jan 10 21:57
Sosumi	remember those sony published music cds that forced you to install a built program in order to play the files?	Jan 10 22:02
Sosumi	and that the program was easily exploitable?	Jan 10 22:02
Sosumi	I think something also happened with some sony usb keys	Jan 10 22:03
Sosumi	but it is around the same thing the copywrong cartel wants	Jan 10 22:03
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Sosumi	and actually, the windows smartscreen is kind of exactly that	Jan 10 22:04
*UpTheDuffer is now known as ThistleWeb		Jan 10 22:05
Sosumi	sending to m$ all the stuff that you open and install into your computer	Jan 10 22:05
Sosumi	M$ could just expand the functionality to allow "content holders" a feed on which media files you have on your hdd	Jan 10 22:07
Sosumi	basically an audit	Jan 10 22:07
Sosumi	and let them choose either to delete said files or not	Jan 10 22:08
MinceR	http://p.coldline.hu/2014/01/10/1309468-20140110-oHMmxJ.jpg	Jan 10 22:18
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 22:44
DaemonFC	I liked that moment when Wolf Blitzer walked through the wreckage of an Oklahoma town where everyone was thanking god for just killing their neighbors and not them.	Jan 10 22:44
DaemonFC	He walked up to a woman and asked her if she was thankful to god. She says "I'm an atheist.".	Jan 10 22:44
DaemonFC	That awkward moment when you're a presumptuous cock....	Jan 10 22:44
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA2fRyllDSE	Jan 10 22:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Ha! Wolf Blitzer Asks Atheist Tornado Survivor If She 'Thanked The Lord' - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtmu ]	Jan 10 22:44
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MinceR	lol	Jan 10 22:47
MinceR	in their thoroughly warped worldview, not being killed in every single moment is a special mercy from a god who they somehow believe to be good	Jan 10 22:48
DaemonFC	It's OK as long as he's only killing the neighbors.	Jan 10 22:51
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 10 22:51
DaemonFC	They probably did something to deserve it.	Jan 10 22:51
MinceR	yeah	Jan 10 22:51
DaemonFC	I am practically perfect in every way!	Jan 10 22:51
DaemonFC	My shit smells like freshly baked cinnamon rolls.	Jan 10 22:51
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 10 22:51
Sosumi	but that doesn't mean that in another dimension they were killed	Jan 10 22:52
Sosumi	and there, they are dead	Jan 10 22:53
Sosumi	remember, the cat is both alive and dead	Jan 10 22:53
MinceR	the many-worlds interpretation is way too complex for someone who deeply believes in an abrahamic religion to understand :>	Jan 10 22:53
Sosumi	but I believe in QUANTUM IMMORTALITY!!!	Jan 10 22:54
Sosumi	:P	Jan 10 22:54
MinceR	it would also conflict with their belief that they're so damn special	Jan 10 22:54
MinceR	(well, they're special, just not in the way they think)	Jan 10 22:54
MinceR	Sosumi: but do you believe in Quantum Success?	Jan 10 22:54
Sosumi	in which everytime I were to die, an alternative timeline would generate in which I'm dead	Jan 10 22:55
Sosumi	and I would still be alive in here	Jan 10 22:55
DaemonFC	MinceR, Consciousness is an emergent property. It just hasn't emerged fully in those people.	Jan 10 22:56
Sosumi	I was just, kind of trolling	Jan 10 22:56
Sosumi	but	Jan 10 22:56
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-wAaBoW408	Jan 10 22:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Night Springs: A Quantum Suicide - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtp9 ]	Jan 10 22:56
Sosumi	from the game alan wake	Jan 10 22:56
Sosumi	the game itself was kind of okeish	Jan 10 22:58
Sosumi	but the night springs episodes were kind of good	Jan 10 22:58
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdM7Qk59c08	Jan 10 23:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Night Springs - Never-before-seen Episode "The Doomed Samaritan" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtqf ]	Jan 10 23:04
Sosumi	another favourite of mine	Jan 10 23:04
DaemonFC	I'm not sure how I got on your mailing list.	Jan 10 23:10
DaemonFC	I'm not a Republican, and I prefer not to get spammed by the swine that presume to rule us.	Jan 10 23:10
DaemonFC	Please remove me from your mailing list immediately.	Jan 10 23:10
DaemonFC	Thank you,	Jan 10 23:10
Sosumi	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCB1ac4jIrE#t=66	Jan 10 23:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Xbox One (Sign Out Trolling) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtr3 ]	Jan 10 23:10
DaemonFC	I sent that to the Indiana House Republican webmaster.	Jan 10 23:10
Sosumi	when you have an always listening mic, that is what happens	Jan 10 23:12
DaemonFC	"You need flash player"	Jan 10 23:12
Sosumi	meh	Jan 10 23:13
Sosumi	trashplayer	Jan 10 23:13
DaemonFC	It was actually nice outside today compared to earlier this week.	Jan 10 23:18
DaemonFC	The temperature came up 55 degrees and ended up at 38.	Jan 10 23:18
DaemonFC	Tropical heat wave compared to the polar vortex.	Jan 10 23:18
Sosumi	well, it is good that you didn't end up buried under the snow	Jan 10 23:22
Sosumi	like it tends to happen in countries like ukraine	Jan 10 23:22
Sosumi	and so on	Jan 10 23:22
Sosumi	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17036988	Jan 10 23:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - Man digs through snow to find house in Romania [ http://ur1.ca/86prf ]	Jan 10 23:23
Sosumi	also happens to smaller homes in the "serra da estrela" area	Jan 10 23:24
Sosumi	but this year has been relatively ok	Jan 10 23:24
Sosumi	not that much rain compared to last year	Jan 10 23:25
Sosumi	last year there were in days in which you woke up downpouring and went to bed still downpouring	Jan 10 23:26
Sosumi	and at one time it went just like that through an entire week	Jan 10 23:27
Sosumi	the night springs videos work without flash	Jan 10 23:42
Sosumi	the xbox one doesn't	Jan 10 23:42
Sosumi	just saw	Jan 10 23:42
Sosumi	should have looked before posting :(	Jan 10 23:42
Sosumi	http://rt.com/politics/russia-gay-crime-referendum-401/	Jan 10 23:43
Sosumi	lol	Jan 10 23:43
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gdtux ]	Jan 10 23:43
Sosumi	"Top Russian cleric seeks nationwide referendum on criminalizing male homosexuality"	Jan 10 23:43
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Sosumi	tell top russian cleric to re-allocate to the KSA	Jan 10 23:44
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 00:20
DaemonFC	Very few children have real potential. I know that will make a lot of parents angry, but it's true. What happens in most cases is that it's just another person that has to fight three other people for the same job that doesn't pay the bills. Then they mess up and have "little blessings" of their own.	Jan 11 00:20
DaemonFC	DCSports says:	Jan 11 00:23
DaemonFC	It's pretty clear the pro-abortion advocates are the ones seeking to make a political issue of this, and are the ones coming up with sick ideas. That's especially amazing, considering it's not an abortion issue.	Jan 11 00:23
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 00:23
DaemonFC	I'm not the one that came up with the sick, unnatural idea to play god and keep a dead woman on life support for several months to incubate a damaged fetus.	Jan 11 00:23
DaemonFC	That was the state of Texas and the "pro-life" cult.	Jan 11 00:23
DaemonFC	And they say I'm the one that is defiling nature... Got news for you. Homosexuality happens in all kinds of animals besides humans. Nowhere in nature does a corpse incubate a fetus for several months and then give birth.	Jan 11 00:23
DaemonFC	In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2014 4:22:13 PM PST	Jan 11 00:26
DaemonFC	NeoPaganBaby says:	Jan 11 00:26
DaemonFC	Yes, it's more of a Frankenstein issue.	Jan 11 00:26
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 00:26
DaemonFC	The only thing that's missing from this pro-life moment are the jumper cables and the lightning bolts.	Jan 11 00:26
DaemonFC	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Zimbabwe_fourth_dollar_-_%24500_Obverse_%282009%29.jpg	Jan 11 00:40
DaemonFC	By the time they ceased to pass as currency, they were more valuable as toilet paper.	Jan 11 00:40
DaemonFC	"In the Guardian, on 18 July 2008, a report on Zimbabwe's inflation, said that an egg costs Z$50 billion (GBP 0.17, USD 0.32)"	Jan 11 00:44
DaemonFC	LOL	Jan 11 00:44
DaemonFC	MinceR, Now I feel bad. I left the eggs in the back of the refrigerator and four of them burst.	Jan 11 00:45
DaemonFC	I destroyed $200 billion worth of eggs.	Jan 11 00:45
DaemonFC	(Zimbabwe Dollars)	Jan 11 00:46
MinceR	:>	Jan 11 00:46
DaemonFC	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Zimbabwe_Hyperinflation_2008_notes.jpg	Jan 11 00:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Full-featured Android smartwatches debut at CES	Jan 11 02:12
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 02:52
DaemonFC	If everybody has a right to life, then why does everyone die?	Jan 11 02:52
DaemonFC	I know that the declaration of independence says everyone has a right to life, but the people that wrote that are all dead, so I guess they were wrong.	Jan 11 02:52
qu1j0t3	hrhr	Jan 11 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Announcing Apache CloudStack 4.2.1	Jan 11 02:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3IB498YGCA	Jan 11 02:57
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Announcing Apache CloudStack 4.2.1 \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 02:57
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 03:30
DaemonFC	I paid off the last of my debt a few years ago. I've been careful not to make any more. It's easier when you're actually being paid.	Jan 11 03:30
DaemonFC	Pro tip: Don't try making money at Walmart. It pays dick. You'll probably starve.	Jan 11 03:30
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 03:36
DaemonFC	Oh, there's this program you can use on your phone when you become root. It can disable system processes. You just click to stop the "Pull ads" process, and nothing can download advertisements anymore. It's ****ing awesome.	Jan 11 03:36
DaemonFC	Or Adblock Plus can do that too, but you have to be rooted for it to filter your mobile data. Unrooted, it can only filter wifi data. (If you don't want to root your phone, but don't want to see web ads in your browser on mobile, you can install the Adblock Edge Firefox extension...)	Jan 11 03:36
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 03:49
DaemonFC	Speaking of buying software licenses..... Specifically, how dumb it usually is to do that....	Jan 11 03:49
DaemonFC	When Sun Microsystems decided that they needed an office suite for every employee in their company, they figured out what it would cost to purchase one license for the current version of Microsoft Office for every employee, and then they decided to buy an entire company that made an office suite called Star Office because it was cheaper to buy an entire company than to do business with Microsoft.	Jan 11 03:49
DaemonFC	They eventually made it free (as in Freedom) and there's this thing called LibreOffice now. You might have heard of it. It's quite good. :)	Jan 11 03:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox OS: The Return of Microsoft’s Netscape	Jan 11 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	Fears http://t.co/iGpu7DgXXD	Jan 11 09:25
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iophk	http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/01/10/lawmakers-to-holder-inconsistencies-in-reports-of-swartz-prosecution-require-serious-responses/	Jan 11 10:24
iophk	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/eric-holder-aaron-swartz_n_4576570.html	Jan 11 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr	pjmedia.com \| The PJ Tatler » Lawmakers to Holder: ‘Inconsistencies’ in Reports of Swartz Prosecution ‘Require Serious Responses’ [ http://ur1.ca/gdx9v ]	Jan 11 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.huffingtonpost.com \| Eric Holder Criticized On Anniversary Of Aaron Swartz Death [ http://ur1.ca/gdx9w ]	Jan 11 10:24
iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/01/09/prosecutors-used-this-cybercrime-law-against-aaron-swartz-now-a-senator-wants-to-strengthen-it/	Jan 11 10:28
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| Prosecutors used this cybercrime law against Aaron Swartz. Now a senator wants to strengthen it. [ http://ur1.ca/gdxak ]	Jan 11 10:28
iophk	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/lawrence-lessig-aaron-swa_n_4577917.html	Jan 11 10:30
iophk	http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/why-were-marching-across-new-hampshire-to-honor-aaron-swartz/282962/	Jan 11 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.huffingtonpost.com \| Lawrence Lessig Walking Across New Hampshire In Memory Of Aaron Swartz [ http://ur1.ca/gdxat ]	Jan 11 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theatlantic.com \| Why We're Marching Across New Hampshire to Honor Aaron Swartz - Lawrence Lessig - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/gdruh ]	Jan 11 10:30
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iophk	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/noam-chomsky-aaron-swartz-mit_n_4577163.html	Jan 11 10:36
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iophk	a lot of articles slamming Snowden of late	Jan 11 13:44
iophk	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/world/europe/eu-panel-invites-snowden.html	Jan 11 13:44
iophk	http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/opinion/op_ed/2014/01/snowden_s_leaks_betray_freedom_democracy	Jan 11 13:44
iophk	http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304347904579310813434692676	Jan 11 13:44
TechrightsBot-tr	myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gdy84 ]	Jan 11 13:45
TechrightsBot-tr	bostonherald.com \| Snowden’s leaks betray freedom, democracy \| Boston Herald [ http://ur1.ca/gdy85 ]	Jan 11 13:45
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Snowden's Damage - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdy86 ]	Jan 11 13:45
iophk	www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/01/09/261115874/the-fbis-comey-on-snowden-confused-by-hero-talk	Jan 11 13:46
iophk	a little more positive one	Jan 11 13:57
iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2014/01/07/jesse-the-mind-ventura-snowden-a-patriot-hero/	Jan 11 13:57
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Jesse 'The Mind' Ventura: Snowden A Patriot, Hero - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gdycu ]	Jan 11 13:57
MinceR	geekings	Jan 11 14:03
iophk	http://www.drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/open-standards-in-computing-wolves-in-sh/240164892	Jan 11 14:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.drdobbs.com \| Open Standards in Computing: Wolves in Sheep's Clothing \| Dr Dobb's [ http://ur1.ca/gdyeh ]	Jan 11 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Support Is Priority Over Streaming For	Jan 11 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	Steam Machines http://t.co/C1218nAVia	Jan 11 14:36
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Support Is Priority Over Streaming For Steam Machines \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bitcoin is the Linux of payments. And its	Jan 11 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	killer apps will be for US dollars	Jan 11 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GJ6KtfFFte	Jan 11 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Bitcoin is the Linux of payments. And its killer apps will be for US dollars \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 14:36
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iophk	http://www.ibtimes.com/att-says-sponsored-data-doesnt-violate-net-neutrality-internet-advocates-argue-mobile-practices-are	Jan 11 14:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.com \| AT&T Says Sponsored Data Doesn't Violate Net Neutrality: Internet Advocates Argue Mobile Practices Are Unfair [ http://ur1.ca/gdymq ]	Jan 11 14:45
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/trewgrip-handheld-keyboard-almost-a-solution-for-thumb-typing/	Jan 11 15:04
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| TrewGrip handheld keyboard almost a solution for thumb-typing \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gdyqd ]	Jan 11 15:04
Sosumi	it even allows you to transform into a power ranger	Jan 11 15:04
Sosumi	and call megazord	Jan 11 15:04
Sosumi	but that'd be great for solving the problem of actual typing on tablets	Jan 11 15:05
Sosumi	specially if the said tablet runs a full desktop OS	Jan 11 15:06
Sosumi	and you just don't want a virtual kb cluttering everything	Jan 11 15:07
Sosumi	looks like driving wheel too	Jan 11 15:07
Sosumi	probably for megazord	Jan 11 15:08
MinceR	:>	Jan 11 15:21
MinceR	http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/20/nsa-internet-security-rsa-secret-10m-encryption	Jan 11 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| $10m NSA contract with security firm RSA led to encryption 'back door' \| World news \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/g8d0y ]	Jan 11 15:48
sebsebseb	iophk: FOSDEM looks like it's going to be really awesome	Jan 11 16:22
sebsebseb	good job I booked the hotel yesterday, they only had two singles left	Jan 11 16:22
iophk	great	Jan 11 16:22
iophk	you're all set now	Jan 11 16:22
sebsebseb	yep	Jan 11 16:22
iophk	reserve a keg?	Jan 11 16:22
sebsebseb	a what?	Jan 11 16:23
iophk	put a deposit on a keg for the party	Jan 11 16:23
sebsebseb	hmm	Jan 11 16:23
sebsebseb	?	Jan 11 16:23
iophk	50 liters or so	Jan 11 16:24
iophk	there are a lot of tracks, how do you pick the interesting talks?	Jan 11 16:28
sebsebseb	iophk: easy enough	Jan 11 16:35
sebsebseb	I base it on how technical something i	Jan 11 16:35
sebsebseb	s	Jan 11 16:35
sebsebseb	usaully	Jan 11 16:35
sebsebseb	iophk: a lot of talks are a bit to technical for me really so make it eaier	Jan 11 16:35
iophk	have you selected anything as must-see?	Jan 11 16:35
sebsebseb	when I looked last I was looking at legal issues dev room	Jan 11 16:35
sebsebseb	and thinking interesting	Jan 11 16:36
iophk	https://fosdem.org/2014/schedule/track/legal_and_policy_issues/	Jan 11 16:36
TechrightsBot-tr	fosdem.org \| FOSDEM 2014 - Legal and policy issues devroom [ http://ur1.ca/gdz50 ]	Jan 11 16:36
iophk	I guess they'll have the video online sometime soon after the event.	Jan 11 16:40
sebsebseb	only for some things	Jan 11 16:42
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iophk	http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/09/nintendo-picks-up-patent-portfolio-from-defunct-exergaming-company-ia-labs/	Jan 11 19:31
TechrightsBot-tr	venturebeat.com \| Nintendo picks up patent portfolio from defunct 'exergaming' company IA Labs \| GamesBeat \| Games \| by Jeff Grubb [ http://ur1.ca/ge0zu ]	Jan 11 19:31
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Sosumi	so now nintendo can finally turn the WII U into the ultimate game gear	Jan 11 20:00
Sosumi	or the ultimate vectrex	Jan 11 20:01
Sosumi	WII U the only console that can be portable but needs AC in order to work	Jan 11 20:02
Sosumi	yet it can still run out of batteries	Jan 11 20:02
Sosumi	I hope it accepts overlays too	Jan 11 20:05
Sosumi	it couldn't be the ultimate vectrex without that	Jan 11 20:05
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3506347	Jan 11 20:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Make a LiveUSB stick with #windows and start using #Linux http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/make-liveusb-stick-windows-start-using-linux/19157 vanish from the #NSA sight and dodge back doors	Jan 11 20:05
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Make a LiveUSB stick with windows and start using Linux \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/ge1hr ]	Jan 11 20:05
roy_	"	Jan 11 20:05
Sosumi	or it would end up in, "vectrex does what nintendon't"	Jan 11 20:05
roy_	I just did this: sudo dd if=linuxmint-16-cinnamon-dvd-64bit.iso of=/dev/sdb , where /dev/sdb was a blank 8GB SD card, inserted but unmounted...	Jan 11 20:05
roy_	It worked once I stopped trying to boot the target system off another SD card full of old pictures on a FAT32 filesystem. Those SD cards are little, and it's hard to tell them apart :-)	Jan 11 20:05
roy_	"	Jan 11 20:05
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3506258	Jan 11 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Meet Korora 20 – It's like Fedora, but Better http://news.softpedia.com/news/Meet-Korora-20-It-s-Like-Fedora-But-Better-415481.shtml #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux #korora	Jan 11 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Meet Korora 20 – It's like Fedora, but Better [ http://ur1.ca/ge1hz ]	Jan 11 20:06
roy_	"Fusion did this really well a few years back. I tried Korora in the summer, it seemed okay, but like all of this "with tweaks" distros, they better be Mint-level of support, because they break very quickly, especially the way Fedora releases broken shit."	Jan 11 20:06
iophk	http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/756662-linux-video-of-the-week-matthew-garrett-argues-for-better-security-in-2014	Jan 11 20:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.linux.com \| Linux Video of the Week: Matthew Garrett Argues for Better Security in 2014 \| Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/ge1s3 ]	Jan 11 20:26
iophk	"He defended verified boot schemes as one method for protecting the software stack at its root."	Jan 11 20:26
iophk	"UEFI Secure Boot “is one of the rare cases where I'm going to say Microsoft did the right thing for user freedom,” he said"	Jan 11 20:27
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roy_	iophk: thanks for the links	Jan 11 20:30
roy_	i have posted all of them in some social networks	Jan 11 20:30
roy_	very good picks	Jan 11 20:30
iophk	thanks	Jan 11 20:30
roy_	and I posted about the healthcare.gov news, see FP of TR	Jan 11 20:30
iophk	I've been following the feed only lately	Jan 11 20:31
roy_	saves lots of legwork and research, the items most relevant to us just a click away	Jan 11 20:31
roy_	[20:27] <iophk> "UEFI Secure Boot “is one of the rare cases where I'm going to say Microsoft did the right thing for user freedom,” he said"	Jan 11 20:31
roy_	Stanage concept of freedom	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	Ballmer is choking on a baby reading it	Jan 11 20:32
iophk	yes, it seemslike double talk	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	He makes anti-Linux mechanism and some dude who writes code for Linux says ballmer champions "freedom"	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	Not just "choice"..	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	Freedom, the f word	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	While wearing an RMS-lookalike shift	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	*shirt	Jan 11 20:33
roy_	FSF hates UEFI	Jan 11 20:33
roy_	See the other link from Aussie news	Jan 11 20:33
roy_	His talk turned into MS marketing	Jan 11 20:33
roy_	They love this guy, the Microsoft boosters in sites like ZDnet use him to call UEFI opposers "fanatics" or something	Jan 11 20:33
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schestowitz	http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140107/18092725793/dianne-feinstein-admits-that-her-nsa-reform-bill-is-about-protecting-existing-surveillance-programs.shtml	Jan 11 20:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.techdirt.com \| Dianne Feinstein Admits That Her 'NSA Reform' Bill Is About Protecting Existing Surveillance Programs \| Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/ge1vv ]	Jan 11 20:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507651	Jan 11 20:35
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fbi shows which side it's on, and it's not the people's, it's the oligarchs' http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/01/09/261115874/the-fbis-comey-on-snowden-confused-by-hero-talk	Jan 11 20:36
schestowitz	"hmm...at least Putin's FSB had the balls to lock up the oligarchs when they plundered the state. If this information is correct about the FBI, then, well, they aren't doing their job right !"	Jan 11 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.npr.org \| FBI Director 'Confused' By Reports Calling Snowden A Hero : The Two-Way : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/ge1wf ]	Jan 11 20:36
iophk	Speaking of Putin / Russia, there has been no follow up in the news about the latest M$ bribery scandal in Russia. There was some in the summer but no action since.	Jan 11 20:37
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Sosumi	<iophk> "UEFI Secure Boot “is one of the rare cases where I'm going to say Microsoft did the right thing for user freedom,” he said"	Jan 11 20:42
Sosumi	by taking, unnecessary freedom, you maintain freedom	Jan 11 20:42
Sosumi	that 1984 dialectic	Jan 11 20:43
Sosumi	*is	Jan 11 20:43
iophk	newspeak	Jan 11 20:43
MinceR	o_O	Jan 11 20:43
iophk	War Is Peace, Freedom Is Slavery, Ignorance Is Strength, etc	Jan 11 20:44
MinceR	the wrong thing is the right thing	Jan 11 20:44
MinceR	(apparently)	Jan 11 20:44
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Sosumi	can I say, in order to have everlasting peace you need perpetual to maintain that peace	Jan 11 20:44
Sosumi	*perpetual war	Jan 11 20:44
Sosumi	orwelian dialectic	Jan 11 20:45
iophk	maybe he is opposed to actual freedom so in his mind M$ really did the right thing by helping take it away.	Jan 11 20:46
Sosumi	aka maintain the status quo	Jan 11 20:46
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/11/cicada_3301_2014/	Jan 11 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| Cicada 3301: The web's most baffling and eerie crypto-puzzle is BACK • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/ge20y ]	Jan 11 20:47
MinceR	:>	Jan 11 20:48
Sosumi	it is like saying, if they don't know any better freedom, they'll not care for the real freedom	Jan 11 20:48
Sosumi	and to make that sure, there's a limitation	Jan 11 20:49
Sosumi	that must be overcome, secure boot	Jan 11 20:49
Sosumi	outside of all this	Jan 11 20:49
Sosumi	I just don't get why I can't sign my own keys	Jan 11 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 20 Officially Released for IBM System z	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	64-Bit http://t.co/bKRivYPdI3	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2db	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Huawei Unveils Android-Based Tron Game Console	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7xErGVGLya	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2dc	Jan 11 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 20 Officially Released for IBM System z 64-Bit \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Novena whips up an open source laptop from	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	scratch http://t.co/zle5TOYAJX	Jan 11 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Huawei Unveils Android-Based Tron Game Console \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2dd	Jan 11 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Novena whips up an open source laptop from scratch \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Siduction 2013.2 review http://t.co/tTyFceaF17	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2de	Jan 11 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Siduction 2013.2 review \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open-source competition for Android, iOS	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pDl3s77COg	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2df	Jan 11 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Open-source competition for Android, iOS \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 21:19
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schestowitz	[20:37] <iophk> Speaking of Putin / Russia, there has been no follow up in the news about the latest M$ bribery scandal in Russia. There was some in the summer but no action since.	Jan 11 21:27
schestowitz	Maybe the DOj got bribed again :-)	Jan 11 21:27
schestowitz	[20:46] <iophk> maybe he is opposed to actual freedom so in his mind M$ really did the right thing by helping take it away.	Jan 11 21:28
schestowitz	Maybe Garrett is a neo-'libertarian'	Jan 11 21:28
schestowitz	Give MICROSOFT the freedom, de-regulate	Jan 11 21:28
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Sosumi	de-regulation doesn't work	Jan 11 21:33
Sosumi	in fact it even allows the formation of cartels, price fixing any other kind of dirty trick you can come up to	Jan 11 21:34
MinceR	well, it works for the big bad guys	Jan 11 21:34
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Sosumi	and probably even allowing the corporation to be the actual gov	Jan 11 21:35
Sosumi	wait, that is what is already happening	Jan 11 21:35
Sosumi	so, regulate and regulate it properly	Jan 11 21:35
Sosumi	absolute gluttony must be kept well regulated for the wealth and survival of the nation	Jan 11 21:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3504304	Jan 11 21:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #internet is seriously dying. #surveillance , tiered Web, #w3c promoting #drm and welcoming #mpaa that advocates back doors in all PCs.	Jan 11 21:57
schestowitz	"Naah. Everything can be moved into Tor or I2P type networks if there's enough will. Money is already moving into P2P, so it's only natural progression that communications shall do it too."	Jan 11 21:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507886	Jan 11 21:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: For this caturday...<BR>	Jan 11 21:57
schestowitz	"Oy I would not to try and fight this beast in the wild..."	Jan 11 21:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507641	Jan 11 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Portfolio" of photocopies. Wow! "Innovation" http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/09/nintendo-picks-up-patent-portfolio-from-defunct-exergaming-company-ia-labs/	Jan 11 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> venturebeat.com \| Nintendo picks up patent portfolio from defunct 'exergaming' company IA Labs \| GamesBeat \| Games \| by Jeff Grubb [ http://ur1.ca/ge0zu ]	Jan 11 21:58
schestowitz	"Nintendo is increasingly looking like the companies that profit from corruption. Nintendo está cada vez mais parecendo as empresas que lucram com a corrupção."	Jan 11 21:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04.4 Officially Arrives on February 6	Jan 11 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FhLRJnVvPW	Jan 11 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2uv	Jan 11 22:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 12.04.4 Officially Arrives on February 6 \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 22:02
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schestowitz	http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2014/Jan-04.html	Jan 05 00:22
TechrightsBot-tr	tirania.org \| ISO C++ 2D API - Miguel de Icaza [ http://ur1.ca/gc354 ]	Jan 05 00:22
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Just watched one-hour sci-fiction programme on	Jan 05 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	"Animal Planet", masquerading as documentary	Jan 05 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	(like 'History' Channel). TV makes one dumb.	Jan 05 00:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3ay	Jan 05 00:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/419633952152776704	Jan 05 01:04
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz dumb owners leads to dumb programming too...both I believe went from some form of public to entirely private ownership...	Jan 05 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi	Jan 05 01:08
TweetTuxMachines	rolling updates http://t.co/LknEqsHkSb #ubuntu	Jan 05 01:08
TweetTuxMachines	#gnu #linux	Jan 05 01:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.muktware.com \| Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi rolling updates \| Muktware	Jan 05 01:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3cc	Jan 05 01:08
DaemonFC	ALDI ran out of milk, bread, eggs, and most of their produce	Jan 05 01:12
DaemonFC	I grabbed what I could and then went to Walmart.	Jan 05 01:12
DaemonFC	I got all my favorite stuff though.	Jan 05 01:13
DaemonFC	Everything I need and a few things I didn't. :)	Jan 05 01:13
DaemonFC	I really like those premium chicken pot pies from ALDI.	Jan 05 01:14
DaemonFC	Fedora has updated GNOME Web to 3.10.3.	Jan 05 01:14
DaemonFC	I'll have to try it out. It's getting quite good aside from the odd crash,	Jan 05 01:14
DaemonFC	When it works, it works well.	Jan 05 01:14
DaemonFC	When it crashes, it manages to take out all the tabs at once. It shouldn't be doing that. It's supposed to be using Webkit2.	Jan 05 01:15
DaemonFC	Overall, I like GNOME 3.10. I'll qualify that, though. After you install a ton of extensions, it's pleasant to work with.	Jan 05 01:16
DaemonFC	I don't like how it wants to restart the computer to apply updates.	Jan 05 01:17
DaemonFC	Not every update should require the computer to restart. Very few of them should require that.	Jan 05 01:17
DaemonFC	It's annoying and wrong.	Jan 05 01:18
DaemonFC	Debian seems to be falling apart. It needs some leadership.	Jan 05 01:19
MinceR	maybe it's getting leadership, but of the wrong kind (canonical)	Jan 05 01:19
DaemonFC	It appears that every time there's more than one choice, they try to badly support every possible choice at once. It's like they're paralyzed. Unable to move.	Jan 05 01:19
DaemonFC	It would be better if they had solid leadership that was willing to make choices and accept the consequences.	Jan 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Broadcast/TV is beaming science fiction with	Jan 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines	fake (actor) "scientists" for ratings. Any	Jan 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines	other proof needed to show TV makes you dumb?	Jan 05 01:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3dz	Jan 05 01:20
DaemonFC	MinceR, They've already said what needs to be done about their init situation.	Jan 05 01:20
DaemonFC	OpenRC is immature and has little documentation and doesn't solve all of their problems.	Jan 05 01:20
DaemonFC	Upstart is well documented and stable, but doesn't solve all their problems, and is against the spirit of DFSG, because of the Canonical CLA.	Jan 05 01:20
DaemonFC	SystemD solves all their problems, is well documented, is stable, and is Free Software without gimmicks.	Jan 05 01:21
DaemonFC	And yet, they can't decide.	Jan 05 01:21
MinceR	neither of upstart and systemd will run on the other kernels they support -- i hope this doesn't mean that they'll throw those kernels away	Jan 05 01:21
DaemonFC	I mean, it seems like a no brainer to me.	Jan 05 01:21
DaemonFC	Well, there again we have a problem.	Jan 05 01:21
DaemonFC	We let 1% of users wreck the GNU/Linux version?	Jan 05 01:21
MinceR	they said they'll just have to implement support for the missing pieces in those kernels, but that sounds very nontrivial to me	Jan 05 01:21
MinceR	we let 99% users wreck our future potential that is HURD?	Jan 05 01:22
MinceR	(or, for that matter, Bedrock Linux)	Jan 05 01:22
DaemonFC	Well, modernizing the other kernels seems to be a better choice than letting GNU/Linux rot.	Jan 05 01:23
MinceR	if it will actually happen	Jan 05 01:23
MinceR	and not just handwaved in at one moment and out at the next	Jan 05 01:23
MinceR	also, upstart is apparently not off the table yet, despite it being obviously inadequate	Jan 05 01:23
MinceR	would that not be letting GNU/Linux rot?	Jan 05 01:24
MinceR	i'm hoping they'll maintain support for sysvinit or openrc and also support systemd	Jan 05 01:24
MinceR	then again, udisks-daemon bothers me and that's not going away either	Jan 05 01:24
DaemonFC	if anyone wants to support other init systems, they're free to do so.	Jan 05 01:25
DaemonFC	systemd needs to be the default	Jan 05 01:25
MinceR	maybe systemd can resurrect it when it dies and then that issue will be sort of patched	Jan 05 01:25
DaemonFC	it's the only one that's up to the task	Jan 05 01:25
MinceR	for certain definitions of the "task", that is.	Jan 05 01:25
MinceR	also, i wonder how this will affect running Debian in a chroot	Jan 05 01:26
MinceR	(not only for Bedrock, but also for things like Android)	Jan 05 01:26
MinceR	(and just plain old chroots for compartmentalization)	Jan 05 01:26
DaemonFC	Fedora is available for Android that way.	Jan 05 01:26
DaemonFC	GNURoot Fedora Remix.	Jan 05 01:26
DaemonFC	It's not official, but it does work.	Jan 05 01:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi	Jan 05 01:26
TweetTuxMachines	rolling updates http://t.co/Z5ITzKQCD8	Jan 05 01:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3ev	Jan 05 01:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi rolling updates \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 01:26
DaemonFC	brb	Jan 05 01:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz When broadcasters permitted to relay hoaxes	Jan 05 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	like Uri Geller and http://t.co/14AZIMrQbG	Jan 05 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UxDKfAevl7 no wonder society made	Jan 05 01:28
TechrightsBot-tr	www.today.com \| Were you fooled by Animal Planet's mermaid special? - TODAY.com	Jan 05 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	dumb	Jan 05 01:28
TechrightsBot-tr	insidetv.ew.com \| Mermaid hoax drowns Animal Planet's ratings record \| Inside TV \| EW.com	Jan 05 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3f3	Jan 05 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Diaspora Europe helps simplify PGP	Jan 05 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kVeMZ2iK5l	Jan 05 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3i6	Jan 05 01:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.joindiaspora.com \| ## Dear PGP Users <3	Jan 05 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	@umairh I have no time for the inferiority complexes of	Jan 05 01:39
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by rich white guys who think rich white guys are	Jan 05 01:39
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz right because they're rich white guys.	Jan 05 01:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3if	Jan 05 01:39
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #domestic #espionage http://t.co/Glj8PGEvIT	Jan 05 01:40
TechrightsBot-tr	m.washingtonpost.com \| The NSA refuses to deny spying on members of Congress - The Washington Post	Jan 05 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	watch the photo chosen by #cia .. I mean,	Jan 05 01:40
TweetTuxMachines	#washpo	Jan 05 01:40
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schestowitz	http://lwn.net/Articles/578208/rss	Jan 05 01:45
TechrightsBot-tr	lwn.net \| Positions forming in the Debian init system discussion [LWN.net]	Jan 05 01:45
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schestowitz	<li><h5><a href="http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/04/visual-novel-narcissu-sequel-coming-steam/" rel="nofollow">Visual Novel Narcissu And Its Sequel Are Coming To Steam</a></h5></li>	Jan 05 01:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.siliconera.com \| Visual Novel Narcissu And Its Sequel Are Coming To Steam [ http://ur1.ca/gc3jl ]	Jan 05 01:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482392	Jan 05 01:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: eBook Reader and Editing Software #Calibre 1.18 Is Almost Perfect http://news.softpedia.com/news/eBook-Reader-and-Editiig-Software-Calibre-1-18-Is-Almost-Perfect-413118.shtml #ebook #literature #gnu #linux	Jan 05 01:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| eBook Reader and Editing Software Calibre 1.18 Is Almost Perfect [ http://ur1.ca/gc3jm ]	Jan 05 01:49
schestowitz	"Empecé a usar Calibre hace poco y es un muy buen programa, muy recomendable. Sólo ví una particularidad a tener en cuenta. Cuando programas una descarga de un diario, compromete los recursos del equipo. Aparte de eso, genial'	Jan 05 01:49
schestowitz	Don`t liick the door .... risa	Jan 05 01:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482850	Jan 05 01:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: *Thief! :D*	Jan 05 01:49
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif	Jan 05 01:49
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif	Jan 05 01:49
schestowitz	"Yuk, he did lick it!"	Jan 05 01:49
DaemonFC	I use a program called Aldiko.	Jan 05 01:55
DaemonFC	It seems to do the job well enough.	Jan 05 01:56
MinceR	so do i	Jan 05 02:01
MinceR	since Cool Reader crashes often on certain ebooks	Jan 05 02:02
MinceR	gn	Jan 05 02:15
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DaemonFC	http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/02/iphone-5s-review-2014/	Jan 05 03:34
TechrightsBot-tr	www.gottabemobile.com \| iPhone 5s Review: 100 Days with Apple's New iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gc3zb ]	Jan 05 03:34
DaemonFC	The phone reboots itself and apps crash randomly.	Jan 05 03:34
DaemonFC	They still give it a good review.	Jan 05 03:34
qu1j0t3	well, they probably think Windows is okay too	Jan 05 03:35
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DaemonFC	not bad	Jan 05 05:45
qu1j0t3	you sound surprised	Jan 05 05:45
DaemonFC	never heard of them before	Jan 05 05:46
DaemonFC	That high fiber cereal that ALDI sells is actually kind of good.	Jan 05 08:52
DaemonFC	Most of the high fiber stuff is like eating cardboard.	Jan 05 08:52
DaemonFC	They managed to spruce it up a bit with raisins, cranberries, pecans, and almonds.	Jan 05 08:52
DaemonFC	The wind chill will be -40 this evening.	Jan 05 08:54
DaemonFC	There's something disturbing about the Fahrenheit and Celsius scales agreeing with each other.	Jan 05 08:54
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sense_amr/status/419704074921984001	Jan 05 09:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@sense_amr: @EllieAsksWhy @schestowitz im usually giving props to people i know	Jan 05 09:48
schestowitz	"I really wish JoinDiaspora.com wasn't running on Amazon..."	Jan 05 09:48
schestowitz	Indeed	Jan 05 09:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482618	Jan 05 09:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: AMAZONS $600 million contract with CIA is a conflict http://www.4-traders.com/AMAZONCOM-INC-12864605/news/Amazoncom-Inc--United-States--AMAZONS-600-million-contract-with-CIA-is-a-conflict-of-interest-17750524/ "Jeff Bezos purchased the Washington Post for $250 million"	Jan 05 09:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.4-traders.com \| Amazon.com, Inc. : United States : AMAZONS $600 million contract with CIA is a conflict of interest \| 4-Traders [ http://ur1.ca/gc83l ]	Jan 05 09:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481120	Jan 05 09:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android will power Audi cars http://www.muktware.com/2013/12/android-will-power-audi-cars/18470 #audi #linux #android	Jan 05 09:51
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Android will power Audi cars » Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gc089 ]	Jan 05 09:51
schestowitz	"It's scary how close we've come to a total surveillance society."	Jan 05 09:51
schestowitz	It has gogtten so bad that e ven when you assume the person next to you is not an informant you may wonder what device on this person makes that person unwittingly an informant, .eg.. a cellphone.	Jan 05 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #android #linux on device "180-gram weight, and	Jan 05 09:55
TweetTuxMachines	IP67 water- and dustproofing."	Jan 05 09:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7L0TsjvzsY	Jan 05 09:55
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TechrightsBot-tr	linuxgizmos.com \| Rugged Android phone surprisingly thin, light · LinuxGizmos.com	Jan 05 09:55
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Here’s a look at the three key developments in	Jan 05 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	open source in 2013:" http://t.co/m0QQQiRXze	Jan 05 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #sharing	Jan 05 09:59
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.linux.com \| Open Computing Accelerated Sharply in 2013 \| Linux.com	Jan 05 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #DreamWorks will release its own 'Dreamtab'	Jan 05 10:03
TweetTuxMachines	Android tablet this spring	Jan 05 10:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DZgt2XS7AV not following #apple and	Jan 05 10:03
TweetTuxMachines	#jobs anymore	Jan 05 10:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theverge.com \| DreamWorks will release its own 'Dreamtab' Android tablet this spring \| The Verge	Jan 05 10:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz A New Open-Source Game Engine Being Released	Jan 05 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3vtb05EJNE maybe a future of	Jan 05 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	free/libre games (as standard) possible	Jan 05 10:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] A New Open-Source Game Engine Being Released	Jan 05 10:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz New Year's Resolutions for SysAdmins	Jan 05 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Op5TPljvP3 mostly	Jan 05 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	UNIX/Linux-oriented	Jan 05 10:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.usenix.org \| New Year's Resolutions for SysAdmins \| USENIX	Jan 05 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc86x	Jan 05 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Michael Morell (CIA), writing about the group	Jan 05 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	he's in, tries to pretend nothing is amiss in	Jan 05 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	#nsa http://t.co/x6q8SWRFHR #whitewash	Jan 05 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc87k	Jan 05 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Michael Morell promoted torture. What position	Jan 05 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	is he really in when it comes to ethics	Jan 05 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	committees? #cia #humanrights #abuse	Jan 05 10:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Why aren't more members of Congress complaining	Jan 05 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	about #nsa ? Well, maybe they're afraid. NSA	Jan 05 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	can oust them. http://t.co/cZnOSLzYr2	Jan 05 10:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Senator Bernie Sanders’s letter to #NSA	Jan 05 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	director dated January 3, 2014	Jan 05 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/j7zyhjYy7Q he's already thoroughly	Jan 05 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	demonised	Jan 05 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc887	Jan 05 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz This new pro- #drones piece from the #nytimes	Jan 05 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	omits the fact that #fbi already flies drones	Jan 05 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	across the US, admits it http://t.co/JBYdbYtFzh	Jan 05 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc88u	Jan 05 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Drones will soon be buzzing over every city in	Jan 05 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	America." http://t.co/7cBBvHFT4M Soon? They	Jan 05 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	already are, in most cities.	Jan 05 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc88y	Jan 05 10:24
schestowitz	http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/05/scott-stossel-my-age-anxiety-extract	Jan 05 10:28
schestowitz	"Not everyone gets overwhelmed by anxiety. My wife, for one, does not. (Thank God.) Barack Obama, by all accounts, does not. Nor, evidently, does David Petraeus, the former commander of US forces in Afghanistan and former director of the CIA: he once told a reporter that despite being in jobs where the day-to-day stakes are a matter of life and death, he "rarely feels stress at all". "	Jan 05 10:28
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Americans who volunteered to distribute books	Jan 05 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	in Russia didn’t know the CIA paid for the	Jan 05 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	printing." http://t.co/VvUWXAG769 cannon fodder	Jan 05 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc89g	Jan 05 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "open-ended permanent wars..." #NDAA	Jan 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines	"authorizes over $600 billion for global	Jan 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines	belligerence, mass killing"	Jan 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lqHb3RBFcQ	Jan 05 10:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc89l	Jan 05 10:31
schestowitz	business insider continues to smear wikileaks and snowden	Jan 05 10:33
schestowitz	http://www.businessinsider.com/edward-snowden-and-wikileaks-2014-1	Jan 05 10:34
schestowitz	pretending there is some collusion	Jan 05 10:34
schestowitz	dating back to pre-leaks days	Jan 05 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Julian Assange... denounced the Catholic	Jan 05 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	Church's confessional system as a means to spy"	Jan 05 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KHnOgid3av	Jan 05 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc89z	Jan 05 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Pierre Omidyar... "cut Wikileaks off at the	Jan 05 10:37
TweetTuxMachines	financial knees in its hour of greatest peril"	Jan 05 10:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9cCa1KWCWH	Jan 05 10:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8a8	Jan 05 10:37
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Eilis O'Hanlon: No need for secrecy on State	Jan 05 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	soup http://t.co/Gf8OZDGOsF Iron Lady dead now,	Jan 05 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	can't face charges	Jan 05 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ai	Jan 05 10:41
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3484076 http://www.globalresearch.ca/inconsistencies-and-unanswered-questions-the-risks-of-trusting-the-snowden-story/5363262	Jan 05 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Computing Accelerated Sharply in 2013	Jan 05 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/U2yjCRRjLF	Jan 05 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8be	Jan 05 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DreamWorks will release its own 'Dreamtab'	Jan 05 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	Android tablet this spring	Jan 05 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/bylICzifHs	Jan 05 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8bf	Jan 05 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Year's Resolutions for SysAdmins	Jan 05 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/A8TMJiJH1S	Jan 05 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8bg	Jan 05 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz EP Green/EFA to use open source to secure email	Jan 05 10:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/o6MUeB0bHX #freesw #europe	Jan 05 10:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8bu	Jan 05 10:52
schestowitz	http://mrpogson.com/2013/12/31/top-7-not/	Jan 05 10:56
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz LiMux - the IT evolution - An open source	Jan 05 10:58
TweetTuxMachines	success story like never before	Jan 05 10:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b4Zvuo7WfA #limux #gnu #linux	Jan 05 10:58
TweetTuxMachines	#germany	Jan 05 10:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ct	Jan 05 10:58
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz GNU/Linux is Kicking Ass At Netcraft	Jan 05 11:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IlvDuqtqb2 #gnu #linux huge in	Jan 05 11:02
TweetTuxMachines	servers	Jan 05 11:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8df	Jan 05 11:02
schestowitz	":-) nr. 10 sounds good: "Remember to write down all the things I do so the year-end review isn't a frantic struggle through old emails to justify my existence. It takes two minutes a day. Actually, this is good for everyone, not just sysadmins.""	Jan 05 11:07
schestowitz	:-) nr. 10 sounds good: "Remember to write down all the things I do so the year-end review isn't a frantic struggle through old emails to justify my existence. It takes two minutes a day. Actually, this is good for everyone, not just sysadmins."	Jan 05 11:07
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3483931	Jan 05 11:07
TweetTuxMachines	@ioerror The answer to Senator Bernie Sanders's question	Jan 05 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by about the #NSA spying on Congress is simple:	Jan 05 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Yes. The NSA is spying on elected officials.	Jan 05 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8f0	Jan 05 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	@RohanBeg In the whole Islamic World, Malaysia is the	Jan 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by only nation that has restricted usage of the	Jan 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz word "Allah" for non-Muslims. Let that sink in.	Jan 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8f2	Jan 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #forbes is #censorship by #plutocrats , just	Jan 05 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	like #fox (recall the #monsanto incident)	Jan 05 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Pq2xWCYB3W	Jan 05 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8f7	Jan 05 11:10
schestowitz	https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00651.html	Jan 05 11:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/anildash/status/419126301468151808	Jan 05 11:14
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.71	Jan 05 11:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/anildash/status/419126301468151808	Jan 05 11:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@anildash: Heartbreaking, but important, profile of Bob Swartz a year after he, and we, lost @aaronsw: http://t.co/BKYGVl1jnL	Jan 05 11:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bostonmagazine.com \| Losing Aaron: Bob Swartz on MIT's Role in His Son's Death	Jan 05 11:15
schestowitz	http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/384934/torvalds-steamos-will-really-help-linux-on-desktop	Jan 05 11:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcpro.co.uk \| Torvalds: SteamOS will "really help" Linux on desktop \| News \| PC Pro [ http://ur1.ca/gc8fx ]	Jan 05 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in	Jan 05 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	OpenSSL site breach http://t.co/CBSlrz9Fh0	Jan 05 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	#openssl #ssl #unix #linux	Jan 05 11:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.networkworld.com \| No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in OpenSSL site breach - Network World	Jan 05 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8g7	Jan 05 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EP Green/EFA to use open source to secure email	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4epvOGDXck	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ho	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LiMux - the IT evolution - An open source	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	success story like never before	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lW6qVtJqPU	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8hq	Jan 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| EP Green/EFA to use open source to secure email \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| LiMux - the IT evolution - An open source success story like never before \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU/Linux is Kicking Ass At Netcraft	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KOrRuJVB6t	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8hr	Jan 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| GNU/Linux is Kicking Ass At Netcraft \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	OpenSSL site breach http://t.co/pg7X8pBwIx	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8hs	Jan 05 11:33
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in OpenSSL site breach \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #uk "yellow weather warnings of ice and rain,	Jan 05 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	with 96 flood warnings in place and a further	Jan 05 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	244 areas on flood alert"	Jan 05 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mASDCVv3ZA	Jan 05 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8kg	Jan 05 11:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| UK's worst winter storms for two decades set to continue \| UK news \| theguardian.com	Jan 05 11:50
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press/releases/get-a-court-order-says-rights-group	Jan 05 11:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Get a court order, says Open Rights Group [ http://ur1.ca/gc8mv ]	Jan 05 11:59
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/government-touts-backroom-deals-to-block-extremist-websites	Jan 05 12:00
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Government touts backroom deals to block extremist websites [ http://ur1.ca/gc8n3 ]	Jan 05 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz In the #uk a newspaper can come under	Jan 05 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	investigation as though reporting is terrorism.	Jan 05 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5hhSSd5nvF	Jan 05 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ni	Jan 05 12:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Joint letter to Home Affairs Select Committee highlighting concerns over freedom of the press	Jan 05 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Some US politicians, including the Vice	Jan 05 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	President, try to label #wikileaks	Jan 05 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	"terrorism".Will the #uk block Wikileaks?	Jan 05 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gmXm2iQRph	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8nm	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #uk #censorship "doesn’t seem like there is a	Jan 05 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	body who will be monitoring or dealing with	Jan 05 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	disputes or performance"	Jan 05 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mecItAQbd5	Jan 05 12:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8o6	Jan 05 12:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Sky's reply to ORG on default internet filters	Jan 05 12:05
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/now-talking-is-treachery	Jan 05 12:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Now talking is treachery [ http://ur1.ca/gc8od ]	Jan 05 12:07
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/ourwork/reports/response-to-nominet-domain-registration-policy-review	Jan 05 12:08
schestowitz	"No. Nominet should not block terms or expressions. There is an existing process for dealing with illegal content."	Jan 05 12:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Response to Nominet domain registration policy review [ http://ur1.ca/gc8oo ]	Jan 05 12:08
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "accuse companies like Google, Yahoo and	Jan 05 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	Microsoft of aiding paedophiles, those	Jan 05 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	companies are bound to take action."	Jan 05 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QO7OhzMwsC	Jan 05 12:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8p0	Jan 05 12:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Child abuse image policies risk looking like cynical manipulation	Jan 05 12:10
schestowitz	http://mrpogson.com/2013/12/18/fans-take-notice-m-admits-windows-sloowwsss-dddooowwwwwnnnnnnnnn/	Jan 05 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	mrpogson.com \| Fans Take Notice! M$ Admits Windows Sloowwsss Dddooowwwwwnnnnnnnnn! \| Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gc8ps ]	Jan 05 12:15
schestowitz	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/exponential-algorithm-making-windows-xp-miserable-could-be-fixed/	Jan 05 12:15
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Exponential algorithm making Windows XP miserable could be fixed \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gc8pt ]	Jan 05 12:15
schestowitz	Peter MS Bright spins it	Jan 05 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Google continues to hide/deprecate RSS feeds.	Jan 05 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	It's a real struggle to find XML in anything	Jan 05 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	Google, even its browsers. Google, Y U so lame	Jan 05 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	!!	Jan 05 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8sg	Jan 05 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "AmericaSpeaks will close its doors today."	Jan 05 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/W69biePI0E Not to worry, we still	Jan 05 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	have Fox	Jan 05 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8sk	Jan 05 12:28
TechrightsBot-tr	americaspeaks.org \| AmericaSpeaks – In Honor of Our 19 Year Legacy « AmericaSpeaks	Jan 05 12:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/419806130848542720	Jan 05 12:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz uncontrolled knowledge is a threat to them. In Canada they're even burning books. In the end they will come for wikipedia.	Jan 05 12:28
schestowitz	Knowledge is power and they know it. The NSA spies on everyone, with help from FB, G, MSFT...	Jan 05 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Liquid cats https://t.co/qgXizFrAMn	Jan 05 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8t9	Jan 05 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Thinking local https://t.co/PAlObyyQVc	Jan 05 12:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8tl	Jan 05 12:35
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Happy birthday to #microsoft - #backdoors for	Jan 05 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	#nsa turn 15. http://t.co/NMS6DCTzZt #antitrust	Jan 05 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	actions dropped in exchange for #espionage	Jan 05 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8u8	Jan 05 12:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonsblog.com \| NSA Built Back Door In All Windows Software by 1999 Washington's Blog	Jan 05 12:39
MinceR	geekings	Jan 05 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz For the most part, online connections offer	Jan 05 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	pseudo friendships, more like peers of	Jan 05 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	interest. Real friends needn't connect online.	Jan 05 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	#privacy	Jan 05 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8wm	Jan 05 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz What to many people vanity catalogs (or	Jan 05 12:50
TweetTuxMachines	posing/profiles) are all about is another	Jan 05 12:50
TweetTuxMachines	party's (subsidising the facilitator)	Jan 05 12:50
TweetTuxMachines	#surveillance aides	Jan 05 12:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ww	Jan 05 12:50
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Someone has told me that #facebook greed for	Jan 05 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	#surveillance (gov/commercial) now includes	Jan 05 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	questionnaires, e.g. years of car purchases	Jan 05 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8x0	Jan 05 12:51
schestowitz	MinceR: j0	Jan 05 12:57
MinceR	do we really need all these tweets in here?	Jan 05 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz How to deal with thugs http://t.co/9bpvh7WqgJ	Jan 05 13:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8xu	Jan 05 13:00
schestowitz	let me make it so that only tuxmachines appears here	Jan 05 13:00
schestowitz	it wasn't intended to be like this, but tuxmachines follows me, hence it repeats like this	Jan 05 13:01
schestowitz	ol, done	Jan 05 13:04
schestowitz	(ok, done	Jan 05 13:04
schestowitz	http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1388890640394097.jpg	Jan 05 13:09
MinceR	:D	Jan 05 13:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines To Windows and Back Again.	Jan 05 13:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8UGF5XyHeH	Jan 05 13:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc95o	Jan 05 13:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| To Windows and Back Again. \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 13:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung's Galaxy Camera 2 starts to refine the	Jan 05 13:54
TweetTuxMachines	Android point-and-shoot http://t.co/hDW05cX0zI	Jan 05 13:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc95q	Jan 05 13:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung's Galaxy Camera 2 starts to refine the Android point-and-shoot \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 13:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 30 Cool Open Source Software I Discovered in	Jan 05 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	2013 http://t.co/lHsEdyF9yQ	Jan 05 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc9ei	Jan 05 14:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| 30 Cool Open Source Software I Discovered in 2013 \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 14:43
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qu1j0t3	schestowitz: right, Tuxm would need to un-follow you.	Jan 05 16:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OggCamp 2013 – Free software, free culture &	Jan 05 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	mass surveillance http://t.co/yb76cSa7o5	Jan 05 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca32	Jan 05 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.13-rc7 announced http://t.co/I2lU7GRPPZ	Jan 05 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca33	Jan 05 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Glade 3.16.1 UI Designer Repairs Numerous Bugs	Jan 05 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/dNMSaGaAIV	Jan 05 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| OggCamp 2013 – Free software, free culture & mass surveillance \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca34	Jan 05 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 3.13-rc7 announced \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Glade 3.16.1 UI Designer Repairs Numerous Bugs \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PC-BSD 10.0 RC3 Improves Hybrid Graphics	Jan 05 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	Support http://t.co/iJiJd0jipq	Jan 05 17:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca35	Jan 05 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| PC-BSD 10.0 RC3 Improves Hybrid Graphics Support \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 17:06
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3484346	Jan 05 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google continues to hide/deprecate RSS feeds. It's a real struggle to find XML in anything Google, even its browsers. Google, Y U so lame !!	Jan 05 17:08
schestowitz	"They hired people from Microsoft to manage "social" and made "social" a priority. They gave power to the wrong people."	Jan 05 17:08
schestowitz	I've been thinking that as a possible explanation. They also hired many patent lawyers and it's affecting corporate policy.	Jan 05 17:08
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482178	Jan 05 17:47
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Oracle refuses to even distance itself from #nsa leaks, allegations. Ellison openly supports NSA, has CIA past.Why trust MySQL, Unbreakable?	Jan 05 17:47
schestowitz	"There's still the open source JRE for Linux."	Jan 05 17:47
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485054	Jan 05 17:47
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: BBC 'hijacked' by sanity (PJ Harvey). #Assange explains #surveillance and #secrecy in 2h:55m http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03mhyzh/Today_02_01_2014/	Jan 05 17:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC iPlayer - Today: 02/01/2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gc9m6 ]	Jan 05 17:48
schestowitz	"Pretty awesome innit :)"	Jan 05 17:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485057	Jan 05 17:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "120-year old city without government functions just fine" http://intellihub.com/2014/01/03/government-free-city-of-max-threatens-u-s-governments-dominance/	Jan 05 17:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> intellihub.com \| \| INTELLIHUB [ http://ur1.ca/gcaah ]	Jan 05 17:48
schestowitz	"I love shit like this but I couldn't just listen to him talk... And talk... And talk... Ugh..."	Jan 05 17:48
Sosumi	I think Unbreakable linux is kind of a joke	Jan 05 17:48
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 05 17:48
schestowitz	but people who choose Oracle too are a joke :-)	Jan 05 17:48
Sosumi	and there's always "iced tea" aka open source java	Jan 05 17:48
Sosumi	but they have a strong penetration in some sectors	Jan 05 17:50
Sosumi	specially in the health indrustry	Jan 05 17:50
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Sosumi	and almost every new public hospital around here runs on oracle	Jan 05 17:51
MinceR	could be much worse	Jan 05 17:51
MinceR	it could run on winblows	Jan 05 17:51
Sosumi	well.............	Jan 05 17:51
Sosumi	the clients run windows	Jan 05 17:52
schestowitz	AdBlock was whitelisting for cash, IIRc, a classic rogue business model"	Jan 05 17:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3484346	Jan 05 17:52
Sosumi	they just browse the database through internet explorer	Jan 05 17:52
MinceR	must be great to be killed by malware	Jan 05 17:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485040	Jan 05 17:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Ken Kesey would have been to party with.	Jan 05 17:52
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schestowitz	"yeah then all the hippies became neoliberals in their 50s & 60s"	Jan 05 17:53
Sosumi	well, and lets no forget when the medic or nurse goes out of the room and leaves the patient there waiting	Jan 05 17:53
schestowitz	"@vlax ˚\•/°, did I use you :-D?"	Jan 05 17:53
schestowitz	"indeed... google hates me"	Jan 05 17:53
Sosumi	I could just plug an USB key with malware and blow the thing wide open	Jan 05 17:53
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Sosumi	although I NEVER did that	Jan 05 17:54
Sosumi	and NEVER WILL	Jan 05 17:54
Sosumi	unless... well there's something to gain	Jan 05 17:54
Sosumi	but that wouldn't be the 1st time	Jan 05 17:56
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Sosumi	the systems belonging to the ministry of justice have been blown countless times	Jan 05 17:56
Sosumi	although their system is a bit different with a bunch of outdated aix servers serving a couple of municipalities	Jan 05 17:59
Sosumi	and many of their clients still on win 98 and 2000	Jan 05 18:00
Sosumi	and in some cases, DOS for what they called "judicial payments"	Jan 05 18:01
Sosumi	how do I know all that? well my grandfather was judicial secretary (top honcho at one of the main regional courts here in portugal)	Jan 05 18:05
Sosumi	he's retired now, but not that much changed for the better since he left	Jan 05 18:06
Sosumi	that was why you still see dumb things like minors and dead folks being counted in the past elections	Jan 05 18:09
Sosumi	or the dead actually voting	Jan 05 18:09
MinceR	more common is the braindead voting	Jan 05 18:10
Sosumi	see? it is just not only the US with its diebold voting machines	Jan 05 18:11
Sosumi	I always vote	Jan 05 18:11
Sosumi	I make a big X in the entire bulletin	Jan 05 18:11
Sosumi	and sometimes write a message	Jan 05 18:11
Sosumi	like "they are all sons of the same mother"	Jan 05 18:12
Sosumi	simply because I actually fear being singled out or facing repercussions for not playing along	Jan 05 18:13
Sosumi	when you have politicians promising you prosperity but in turn taking everything	Jan 05 18:14
Sosumi	and the mindless majority blindingly following, you need to be carefull	Jan 05 18:15
Sosumi	and things like that are common in here, if you actually speak against the system, you're treatened or harassed	Jan 05 18:16
MinceR	i tend to vote for the lesser evil	Jan 05 18:20
MinceR	they usually lose anyway	Jan 05 18:20
Sosumi	but even with all its negatives, PT is still a better place to live than say the US or france or spain or the uk	Jan 05 18:24
Sosumi	or ukraine	Jan 05 18:24
Sosumi	simply because things tend to be slow around here	Jan 05 18:25
Sosumi	and if you know how to handle yourself	Jan 05 18:25
Sosumi	you can actually get things done without being bothered	Jan 05 18:25
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iophk	http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/the-county-sheriff-who-keylogged-his-wife/	Jan 05 19:21
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iophk	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1559318/Menezes-could-not-have-saved-his-life.html	Jan 05 20:48
iophk	old	Jan 05 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Menezes could not have saved his life - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gcdpr ]	Jan 05 20:48
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/419925124595204096	Jan 05 22:08
TechrightsBot-tr	@fcassia: @schestowitz http://t.co/oHTSh5qvOG :-p	Jan 05 22:08
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 05 22:22
MinceR	gn	Jan 05 22:38
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485389	Jan 05 22:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Abusive cartel of the medical industry. This is looting. http://www.quickmeme.com/p/3vr7y8	Jan 05 22:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.quickmeme.com \| Guy Gets Sick, Spends Few Hours in Hospital Then This Happens.... - quickmeme	Jan 05 22:48
schestowitz	"	Jan 05 22:49
schestowitz	It's only getting worse with Obamacare, he let the insurance company write a bill for their own "regulation" (ie the removal of competition). Now they are going to charge whatever they want because 1 you HAVE to pay for it so there is no incentive to lower prices OR provide a better service and 2 no competition.	Jan 05 22:49
schestowitz	Government managed healthcare is a death sentence.	Jan 05 22:49
schestowitz	'	Jan 05 22:49
schestowitz	"Neo-Liberalism (which should rightly be called Fascism) in your backyard.'	Jan 05 22:49
schestowitz	"@Agora, about government managed health care... it depends. I live in a country with a public health care system with high cost-efficiency. It has beed working this way just because insuarance companies din't write the regulation.'	Jan 05 22:50
schestowitz	"@Agora, about government managed health care... it depends. I live in a country with a public health care system with high cost-efficiency. It has been working this way just because insuarance companies din't write the regulation."	Jan 05 22:50
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485617	Jan 05 22:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@psychonot@pod.orkz.net: Good for this guy taking to the internet to address this injustice. If you think this is bad just wait for Obamacare to come into full swing.	Jan 05 22:51
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schestowitz	"	Jan 05 22:51
schestowitz	Good for this guy taking to the internet to address this injustice. If you think this is bad just wait for Obamacare to come into full swing.	Jan 05 22:51
schestowitz	It's beginning to look a lot like a Police State... Everywhere ya go...	Jan 05 22:51
schestowitz	"	Jan 05 22:51
schestowitz	Good for this guy taking to the internet to address this injustice. If you think this is bad just wait for Obamacare to come into full swing.	Jan 05 22:51
schestowitz	It's beginning to look a lot like a Police State... Everywhere ya go...	Jan 05 22:51
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485483	Jan 05 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #napolitano against move which would label her and her colleagues criminals, not #snowden http://presspass.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/05/22187914-napolitano-rejects-idea-of-clemency-for-nsa-leaker-snowden http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/05/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-clemency	Jan 05 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr	-> presspass.nbcnews.com \| Napolitano rejects idea of clemency for NSA leaker Snowden - Press Pass [ http://ur1.ca/gcesl ]	Jan 05 22:52
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| Napolitano: NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden should not be given clemency \| World news \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gcesm ]	Jan 05 22:52
schestowitz	"She is the living embodiment of a slug."	Jan 05 22:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485483	Jan 05 22:52
schestowitz	"Sticky wicket? More of a non-starter, I would think."	Jan 05 22:52
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schestowitz	"pehaps that's still a great market to enter as a newbie"	Jan 05 23:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485478	Jan 05 23:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It Looks Like Ubuntu's First Phone Might Be For China http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU2MDY #ubuntu #linux #gnu #china	Jan 05 23:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Ivy Bridge Linux Performance Stepped Up	Jan 06 00:04
TweetTuxMachines	In 2013 http://t.co/DvWOY4DrwU	Jan 06 00:04
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel Ivy Bridge Linux Performance Stepped Up In 2013 \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 00:04
schestowitz	http://rdwolff.com/content/richard-wolff-capitalism-and-socialism-interview-c-j-polychroniou	Jan 06 00:12
TechrightsBot-tr	rdwolff.com \| Richard Wolff on Capitalism and Socialism: An Interview with C. J. Polychroniou \| Professor Richard D. Wolff [ http://ur1.ca/gcfmj ]	Jan 06 00:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/WoWn3XWw8d	Jan 06 00:50
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/malware-attacks-thousands-of-yahoo-com-visitors-through-java-exploit/	Jan 06 01:18
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Sosumi	lol java	Jan 06 01:18
Sosumi	but ho well	Jan 06 01:19
Sosumi	gn :)	Jan 06 01:20
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Sosumi	http://enenews.com/abc-news-govt-baffled-over-white-spots-on-cows-around-fukushima-plant-farmer-no-one-knows-what-they-are-i-think-its-from-radiation-our-towns-contaminated-like-chernobyl-we-were-j	Jan 06 08:01
TechrightsBot-tr	enenews.com \| ABC News: Gov’t, scientists ‘baffled’ over white spots on cows around Fukushima plant — Farmer: No one knows what they are, I think it’s from radiation; “Our town’s contaminated like Chernobyl… We were just thrown away like trash” — Officials order the animals to be slaughtered (VIDEOS) [ http://ur1.ca/gclcl ]	Jan 06 08:01
Sosumi	STALKER: Call of Fukushima	Jan 06 08:03
Sosumi	I said it before right after it happened in march,	Jan 06 08:07
Sosumi	Japan either had to get it together and find new means to actually decontaminate or they'd be doomed	Jan 06 08:07
Sosumi	and they kind of know that, Abe beating the war drums with china is just a distraction to ease the minds out of the big glowing elephant in the room	Jan 06 08:09
Sosumi	and I loved the name Abenomics	Jan 06 08:10
Sosumi	and the fact that some ppl of the Abe family, according to yoichi shimatsu of the asia times,	Jan 06 08:12
Sosumi	were involved in the tokyo subway gassing	Jan 06 08:12
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Sosumi	my bad, he's the former editor of the japan times	Jan 06 08:17
Sosumi	my bad	Jan 06 08:17
Sosumi	ánd former pacific news service	Jan 06 08:18
Sosumi	now working with the 4th media out of hong kong	Jan 06 08:18
Sosumi	http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Saving_Agent_Snowden_From_His_Handlers_Greenwald_%26_Omidyar	Jan 06 08:20
TechrightsBot-tr	wikispooks.com \| Document:Saving Agent Snowden From His Handlers Greenwald & Omidyar - WikiSpooks [ http://ur1.ca/gclfl ]	Jan 06 08:20
Sosumi	that's an actual article from him	Jan 06 08:20
DaemonFC`	I saw a video where people were trying out a "shatter proof" iPhone 5 screen protector.	Jan 06 08:21
Sosumi	but didn't Snowden say that he was still working for the NSA? But "they" just didn't know/realize it?	Jan 06 08:21
DaemonFC`	The iPhone 5 does have Gorilla Glass, but it's not as good as the Gorilla Glass in the LG G2.	Jan 06 08:21
DaemonFC`	My G2 has Gorilla Glass 3, and apparently the iPhone 5 has the older Gorilla Glass 2.	Jan 06 08:22
DaemonFC`	Corning said that GG 3 is about 40% more damage resistant.	Jan 06 08:22
DaemonFC`	I still don't have any scratches on my phone's screen, and I've had it in my pocket with loose change and cigarette lighters several times.	Jan 06 08:23
DaemonFC`	So, I think GG 3 is just good stuff.	Jan 06 08:24
Sosumi	I'm kind of tired of apple...	Jan 06 08:24
Sosumi	and the thought of having to port 10 years plus of work to linux	Jan 06 08:24
DaemonFC`	Well, if you're paying $600 for a phone, you want the best stuff in that phone.	Jan 06 08:24
Sosumi	is kind of killing the inner child inside me	Jan 06 08:24
DaemonFC`	It kind of shocked me that the iPhone doesn't have Gorilla Glass 3.	Jan 06 08:25
DaemonFC`	Or that it only has half the RAM that my phone has.	Jan 06 08:25
Sosumi	just 1GB even on the 5s	Jan 06 08:25
DaemonFC`	Yeah, Ny G2 has 2 GB of RAM.	Jan 06 08:26
Sosumi	sad joke, but then again look at the mac pro, the supposed pro workstation	Jan 06 08:26
Sosumi	can't keep itself cool	Jan 06 08:26
DaemonFC`	It also basically destroys the iPhone 5S on OpenGL ES benchmarks.	Jan 06 08:26
Sosumi	and has two underclocked 6GB HD7970 sold as firepros	Jan 06 08:26
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Sosumi	awesome! right?	Jan 06 08:27
Sosumi	not in my book, I'd kill that thing in a month	Jan 06 08:27
DaemonFC	Yeah. There's really no reason to buy a FirePro card.	Jan 06 08:27
DaemonFC	It just costs more. The difference is only in program certification for their proprietary driver.	Jan 06 08:27
DaemonFC	They don't guarantee program compatibility with the Radeon HD, but that's the only difference I believe.	Jan 06 08:28
DaemonFC	In practice, they should run the same programs.	Jan 06 08:28
Sosumi	but, they are selling a lie there	Jan 06 08:28
Sosumi	since there is no and never was and never will be a distinction between pro and normal graphics driver in osx	Jan 06 08:29
DaemonFC	I recommend AMD's Radeon HD cards mostly because of the driver situation.	Jan 06 08:29
DaemonFC	Nouveau is barely usable.	Jan 06 08:29
DaemonFC	It's incredibly slow when it does work.	Jan 06 08:29
DaemonFC	It's a step up from what NV was, but that isn't saying much.	Jan 06 08:29
Sosumi	and there's no ECC in those cards, so folks offloading to gpu will get errors	Jan 06 08:30
Sosumi	even through on the real fire pros	Jan 06 08:30
Sosumi	ecc was virtual	Jan 06 08:30
DaemonFC	Nvidia's not really cooperating. They drop a hint here and there, but they're not releasing huge amounts of programming documentation.	Jan 06 08:30
Sosumi	I know that, nvidia are kind of the typical asses	Jan 06 08:31
DaemonFC	Sosumi, That's funny, because the system RAM is ECC, and the processor is a Xeon.	Jan 06 08:31
Sosumi	but fire pros and quadro cards are there to satisfy a niche	Jan 06 08:31
DaemonFC	So they have error control there, but not on the graphics cards?	Jan 06 08:31
Sosumi	but the cards are falso fire pros	Jan 06 08:31
DaemonFC	That's crazy.	Jan 06 08:31
Sosumi	*false	Jan 06 08:32
Sosumi	if you're doing autocad and offloading to the gpu you're going to need one of those cards	Jan 06 08:32
Sosumi	for offloading you're actually going to need a model that has ECC	Jan 06 08:33
Sosumi	tesla, mostly and probably the k6000	Jan 06 08:34
Sosumi	I haven't seen the specs on that one	Jan 06 08:34
Sosumi	since it is kind of not there yet	Jan 06 08:34
Sosumi	but open source drivers should be the future	Jan 06 08:38
Sosumi	there's no doubt about that	Jan 06 08:38
Sosumi	actually if I remember well	Jan 06 08:44
Sosumi	one of the problems with the system x at virginia tech	Jan 06 08:44
Sosumi	was the fact that the original powermac cluster they built lacked ecc	Jan 06 08:45
Sosumi	I guess crapple never mentioned that in their propaganda page	Jan 06 08:45
Sosumi	later they replaced those powermacs with xservers	Jan 06 08:46
Sosumi	which they sould have never gotten due to reliability issues with the watercooling system	Jan 06 08:46
Sosumi	and the powermacs could be fitted with ecc ram with issue	Jan 06 08:47
Sosumi	my powermac g5 had ecc ram	Jan 06 08:47
Sosumi	although the model used at virginia tech was the dual 2.7GHz and I got the quad 2.5GHx one year later	Jan 06 08:48
Sosumi	it was almost 10 years ago	Jan 06 08:54
Sosumi	how time flies :(	Jan 06 08:54
DaemonFC	http://io9.com/theres-a-polar-vortex-sweeping-across-america-and-i-1494961441?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow	Jan 06 09:06
TechrightsBot-tr	io9.com \| There's a "polar vortex" sweeping across America, and it is NASTY [ http://ur1.ca/gcls2 ]	Jan 06 09:06
DaemonFC	I'm in the middle of it.	Jan 06 09:06
DaemonFC	The wind chill outside is 40 below zero.	Jan 06 09:06
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DaemonFC	Yeah. It's a nasty storm.	Jan 06 09:13
DaemonFC	There's at least a foot of snow on the ground right now.	Jan 06 09:13
DaemonFC	The weather report said it was supposed to stop snowing at 1 AM, but it's still going.	Jan 06 09:14
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DaemonFC	Plus the wind is blowing it out of trees and off roofs.	Jan 06 09:14
DaemonFC	With this much snow on the roof, I'm worried that the roof could actually cave in.	Jan 06 09:14
DaemonFC	I haven't seen snow like this in years.	Jan 06 09:14
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DaemonFC	The weather service says that this is as cold as it's been in this part of Indiana since the 1970s.	Jan 06 09:15
MinceR	geekings	Jan 06 09:19
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Sosumi	global warming, right?	Jan 06 09:45
MinceR	winter does not disprove global warming	Jan 06 09:48
MinceR	also, it's 8°C here and the predicted minimum is 5°C	Jan 06 09:49
MinceR	https://twitter.com/idiot/status/419549763936067584	Jan 06 09:50
TechrightsBot-tr	@idiot: Why did the chicken send a HTTP request? To GET to /the-other-side.	Jan 06 09:50
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DaemonFC	I went outside for about a minute.	Jan 06 10:24
DaemonFC	It's way too cold out there. I think I might just make an exception to my smoking in the house rule.	Jan 06 10:25
DaemonFC	Or I could just open the window and lean my head out. That way, at least the rest of my body would be warm.	Jan 06 10:25
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iophk	http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/security/62719-being-a-patriot	Jan 06 11:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itwire.com \| Being a Patriot [ http://ur1.ca/gcmj9 ]	Jan 06 11:01
iophk	http://falkvinge.net/2014/01/06/censorship-causes-liability-uk-isps-need-to-be-sued-way-out-into-atlantic/	Jan 06 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr	falkvinge.net \| Censorship Triggers Liability: UK ISPs Need To Be Sued Way Out Into Atlantic - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/gcmjs ]	Jan 06 11:04
iophk	"From 05.12.2013 to 05.02.2014, the European Commission is inviting all interested parties, including individuals and NGOs, to offer their thoughts on how the EU copyright rules should be developed"	Jan 06 12:43
iophk	http://www.copywrongs.eu/	Jan 06 12:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.copywrongs.eu \| Help reform copyright	Jan 06 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 13.10 - The "Marmite" Linux Operating	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	System http://t.co/UnXoU1YCrc	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn99	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why Acer's new Android desktops are a	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	game-changer http://t.co/NWMXyDQGk5	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn9a	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Belkin shows Linux powered smart slow cooker at	Jan 06 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 13.10 - The "Marmite" Linux Operating System \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Why Acer's new Android desktops are a game-changer \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	CES 2014 http://t.co/qaeWzQgbqc	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn9b	Jan 06 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Belkin shows Linux powered smart slow cooker at CES 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What to expect from Ubuntu in 2014	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hrPpZDuc1N	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn9d	Jan 06 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| What to expect from Ubuntu in 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Summary of 2013 and New Year's list	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WpAriDN7qC	Jan 06 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn9e	Jan 06 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Summary of 2013 and New Year's list \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 12:45
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iophk	http://www.inquisitr.com/1084493/kim-dotcom-raid-megaupload-founders-mother-held-at-gunpoint-bmw-seized/	Jan 06 14:21
TechrightsBot-tr	www.inquisitr.com \| Kim Dotcom Raid: Megaupload Founder’s Mother Held At Gunpoint , BMW Seized [ http://ur1.ca/gcntw ]	Jan 06 14:21
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Sosumi	it is not global warming	Jan 06 14:37
Sosumi	it is weather	Jan 06 14:37
Sosumi	also, bruce schneier joined co3	Jan 06 14:39
Sosumi	http://www.anandtech.com/show/7622/nvidia-tegra-k1	Jan 06 14:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.anandtech.com \| AnandTech \| NVIDIA Tegra K1 Preview & Architecture Analysis [ http://ur1.ca/gcnxt ]	Jan 06 14:40
Sosumi	64bit arm is now the rule	Jan 06 14:40
Sosumi	for as much as I don't like nvidia	Jan 06 14:43
Sosumi	I'd love to see them putting out a cpu destined to the workstation/server market that could compete with xeons	Jan 06 14:44
Sosumi	amd has a cpu+gpu division	Jan 06 14:45
Sosumi	intel too	Jan 06 14:45
Sosumi	and they have become better with time	Jan 06 14:46
Sosumi	only nvidia is kind of left behind	Jan 06 14:46
Sosumi	with intel eating their HPC market	Jan 06 14:47
Sosumi	with the xeon phi card	Jan 06 14:47
Sosumi	actually, back in 2009 there were talks that behind the scenes intel wanted to buy nvidia	Jan 06 14:48
Sosumi	but the deal ended up because Jen-Hsun wanted to stay at the head	Jan 06 14:49
Sosumi	it was also back when intel didn't renew/update the licence with nvidia for the production of nehalem + compatible chipsets	Jan 06 14:51
Sosumi	remember nforce?	Jan 06 14:51
iophk	https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/01/nsa_documents_f.html	Jan 06 14:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.schneier.com \| Schneier on Security: NSA Documents from the Spiegel Story [ http://ur1.ca/gco2l ]	Jan 06 14:56
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/backdoor-in-wireless-dsl-routers-lets-attacker-reset-router-get-admin/	Jan 06 15:08
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Backdoor in wireless DSL routers lets attacker reset router, get admin \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gco5m ]	Jan 06 15:08
Sosumi	similar things have been know since, that I can remember, defcon 17	Jan 06 15:09
Sosumi	back in 2009	Jan 06 15:09
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/linksys-resurrects-classic-blue-router-with-open-source-and-300-price/	Jan 06 16:15
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Linksys resurrects classic blue router, with open source and $300 price \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gcom6 ]	Jan 06 16:15
Sosumi	sdk will be available for custom firmwares	Jan 06 16:15
Sosumi	http://wccftech.com/details-nvidia-geforce-gtx-790-finally-surface-4992-cuda-cores-10-gb-memory-5/	Jan 06 16:16
TechrightsBot-tr	wccftech.com \| Details Regarding Nvidia Geforce GTX 790 Finally Surface - 4992 Cuda Cores and 10 GB of Memory [ http://ur1.ca/gcomg ]	Jan 06 16:17
Sosumi	I wander if it is possible to implement ECC software side	Jan 06 16:17
Sosumi	but that is kind of the router everyone was waiting for	Jan 06 16:19
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Sosumi	RT pulled it again	Jan 06 17:52
Sosumi	pilf time 2.0	Jan 06 17:53
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg6VTzacb9I	Jan 06 17:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| 'Aliens could share more tech with us, if we warmonger less' - Former Canada Defense Minister - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gcp73 ]	Jan 06 17:53
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Sosumi	still, clever way to discredit experimental aircraft	Jan 06 18:02
Sosumi	by putting charades like "aliens" associated with sightings of secret aircraft	Jan 06 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines In Mobile, GNU and Linux Victories Are	Jan 06 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	Everywhere, So Microsoft Tries to Interject	Jan 06 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	Itself Into Linux http://t.co/i9aUeckmye	Jan 06 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpne	Jan 06 18:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| In Mobile, GNU and Linux Victories Are Everywhere, So Microsoft Tries to Interject Itself Into Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi: RaspBMC and OpenELEC	Jan 06 18:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WxeYa6OOhJ	Jan 06 18:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Raspberry Pi: RaspBMC and OpenELEC \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 18:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SnapRAID Yields A New RAID Kernel Library For	Jan 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/5ZYA4j58iC	Jan 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpyq	Jan 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Users Still Have Mixed Feelings Over DNF	Jan 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nHjeFNuOEv	Jan 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpys	Jan 06 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| SnapRAID Yields A New RAID Kernel Library For Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Already Has A Dozen Steam Machine	Jan 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	Partners http://t.co/gihE0xWcVu	Jan 06 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora Users Still Have Mixed Feelings Over DNF \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpyt	Jan 06 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Valve Already Has A Dozen Steam Machine Partners \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google launches the Android-based Open	Jan 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	Automotive Alliance with Audi, Honda, GM, and	Jan 06 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	more http://t.co/MZeCLtNYR4	Jan 06 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpyu	Jan 06 19:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Google launches the Android-based Open Automotive Alliance with Audi, Honda, GM, and more \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android desktops arrive as Lenovo eyes your	Jan 06 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	living room http://t.co/0HFi3PR1tc	Jan 06 19:40
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Android desktops arrive as Lenovo eyes your living room \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 19:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PC retail rut http://t.co/vkBbasNWLG	Jan 06 20:26
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| PC retail rut \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 20:26
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iophk	no visible date, but appears fresh:	Jan 06 20:37
iophk	https://ameliaandersdotter.eu/drm-html5	Jan 06 20:37
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TechrightsBot-tr	ameliaandersdotter.eu \| DRM in HTML5 \| Amelia Andersdotter	Jan 06 20:38
iophk	https://ameliaandersdotter.eu/copyright-consultation-model-responses	Jan 06 20:40
TechrightsBot-tr	ameliaandersdotter.eu \| Copyright consultation - model responses \| Amelia Andersdotter [ http://ur1.ca/gcqcp ]	Jan 06 20:40
schestowitz	old	Jan 06 20:43
iophk	frustrating - there is no visible date on it	Jan 06 20:43
schestowitz	some people dont	Jan 06 20:43
schestowitz	'know how to use the Web	Jan 06 20:43
schestowitz	I think I linked to it last year	Jan 06 20:44
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iophk	maybe the twitter gen	Jan 06 20:44
iophk	no date stamps on that either probably	Jan 06 20:45
schestowitz	twitter has timestamps	Jan 06 20:47
iophk	that's a relief	Jan 06 20:47
iophk	the web UI (which sucks) doesn't however	Jan 06 20:48
iophk	what's the best UI for twitter these days?	Jan 06 20:48
iophk	gtg	Jan 06 20:54
Sosumi	tweetdeck for vanilla twitter	Jan 06 20:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KMS Drivers Break The Console In FreeBSD 10	Jan 06 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vsw9pS0Rcj	Jan 06 21:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Arch Linux's First Release of 2014 Is Available	Jan 06 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	for Download http://t.co/tQS0cO2tCj	Jan 06 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcqid	Jan 06 21:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| KMS Drivers Break The Console In FreeBSD 10 \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 21:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Arch Linux's First Release of 2014 Is Available for Download \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Latest Benchmarks Of The Linux 3.13 Kernel	Jan 06 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xLwE4lDoZD	Jan 06 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcqie	Jan 06 21:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The Latest Benchmarks Of The Linux 3.13 Kernel \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 21:10
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Sosumi	http://www.anandtech.com/show/7640/intel-ces-2014-live-blog	Jan 06 22:41
TechrightsBot-tr	www.anandtech.com \| AnandTech \| Intel CES 2014 Live Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gcr7t ]	Jan 06 22:41
Sosumi	windows and skype everywere	Jan 06 22:41
MinceR	gn	Jan 06 22:53
Sosumi	gn	Jan 06 23:14
Sosumi	also, don't freeze to death if you're in the US	Jan 06 23:15
DaemonFC	The temperature outside is so low that my baseboard heaters can't keep up with it.	Jan 06 23:19
DaemonFC	I might have to go into the bathroom and turn on the heater fan that's right outside the shower to try to get some more heat.	Jan 06 23:20
Sosumi	you know...	Jan 06 23:21
Sosumi	what about taking a very hot shower	Jan 06 23:21
Sosumi	and then go run naked outside?	Jan 06 23:22
Sosumi	while yelling russian gibberish	Jan 06 23:22
Sosumi	it'd be epic	Jan 06 23:23
Sosumi	it'd kind of be an "iron man challenge"	Jan 06 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VIA Partners With Mozilla For Firefox OS	Jan 06 23:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/p7a65I3PTH	Jan 06 23:28
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| VIA Partners With Mozilla For Firefox OS \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 23:28
DaemonFC	Well, it would mean free room and board.	Jan 06 23:33
DaemonFC	Assuming that the police didn't murder me first.	Jan 06 23:34
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Sosumi	:)	Jan 07 00:08
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Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcbVG9fCEAAel8K.jpg	Jan 07 00:13
Sosumi	How to survive the coming ice age	Jan 07 00:13
Sosumi	Time Mag cover of april 1977	Jan 07 00:14
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DaemonFC	Sosumi, That reminds me of the guy that got thrown into a state mental hospital in California, back in the 60s.	Jan 07 01:13
DaemonFC	They figured he was schizophrenic and shouting gibberish, but it turned out to be Hungarian.	Jan 07 01:13
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DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar	Jan 07 02:48
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| United States dollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gcspm ]	Jan 07 02:48
DaemonFC	Is't it kind of hard to measure the relative value of a currency from 1774 to the present?	Jan 07 02:48
DaemonFC	People weren't exactly buying flatscreen televisions, cell phones, and cars in 1774.... :)	Jan 07 02:48
DaemonFC	ALDI has kept their food prices pretty stable.	Jan 07 02:53
DaemonFC	Walmart hasn't.	Jan 07 02:53
DaemonFC	I had to go to Walmart and ALDI anyway the other day, because ALDI ran out of milk, eggs, and bread due to the storm.	Jan 07 02:53
DaemonFC	I'd estimate that for every $1 you spend at ALDI, you'd have to spend about $1.10-$1.15 at Walmart to buy the same items.	Jan 07 02:54
DaemonFC	MinceR, It amuses me that the National Weather Service has to tell people all the ways that cold weather can kill them.	Jan 07 02:56
DaemonFC	"Change out of wet clothes immediately. Wet clothes lose all of their insulation value."	Jan 07 02:57
DaemonFC	Yeah. Like it might not occur to me that wearing wet clothes outside with a wind chill of -40 is a bad idea.	Jan 07 02:58
DaemonFC	People that can't figure that out should die. It's natural selection.	Jan 07 02:58
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/09/balky-carriers-and-slow-oems-step-aside-google-is-defragging-android/	Jan 07 02:59
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Balky carriers and slow OEMs step aside: Google is defragging Android \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fcr2b ]	Jan 07 02:59
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DaemonFC	My screen door froze shut.	Jan 07 03:19
DaemonFC	-15 F / -26 C	Jan 07 03:20
DaemonFC	that's without the wind chill	Jan 07 03:20
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qu1j0t3	DaemonFC \| People weren't exactly buying flatscreen televisions, cell phones,	Jan 07 04:02
qu1j0t3	\| and cars in 1774.... :)	Jan 07 04:02
qu1j0t3	they were buying the equivalents.	Jan 07 04:02
qu1j0t3	whatever dumb stuff somebody could sell to them. exactly zero has chaned.	Jan 07 04:02
qu1j0t3	changed*	Jan 07 04:02
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DaemonFC	http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/01/06/cold_weather_turns_boiling_water_to_snow_eric_holthaus_video_in_wisconsin.html	Jan 07 04:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.slate.com \| Cold weather turns boiling water to snow: Eric Holthaus video in Wisconsin. [ http://ur1.ca/gctae ]	Jan 07 04:55
DaemonFC	I might have to try this.	Jan 07 04:55
DaemonFC	Without the wind chill, it's colder than a supermarket meat freezer out there.	Jan 07 04:59
DaemonFC	You only have to be outside for about 20 seconds for it to suck all the warmth right out of you.	Jan 07 05:00
DaemonFC	Hey, it does work.	Jan 07 05:04
DaemonFC	That's cool.	Jan 07 05:04
DaemonFC	I might have to do that again.	Jan 07 05:04
DaemonFC	A conservative told me that "liberal entitlement programs" (You know...The ones that cut poverty in half and keep Grandma's medication coming) are impossible to shut down.	Jan 07 05:15
DaemonFC	What he didn't mention, as I'm sure most of you are also unaware, is that conservative boondoggles are impossible to shut down. Ronald "Raygun"'s "Star Wars" program hasn't ever done anything except cost money ($400 billion and counting), and it's still going. Bush Jr. renamed this rolling catastrophe of wasted federal spending the "Missile Defense Agency".	Jan 07 05:15
DaemonFC	Like · · Share · about a minute ago · Edited ·	Jan 07 05:15
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DaemonFC	Whip wants some?	Jan 07 05:47
DaemonFC	dammit	Jan 07 05:48
DaemonFC	autocorrect	Jan 07 05:48
DaemonFC	Who wants some?	Jan 07 05:48
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1546210_179065412303498_1471271048_n.jpg	Jan 07 05:48
DaemonFC	https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1504028_179065425636830_1669747997_n.jpg	Jan 07 05:48
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DaemonFC	I like that....	Jan 07 06:22
DaemonFC	Bill Hicks says to his dad that he can prove that the bible is not the literal word of God.	Jan 07 06:22
DaemonFC	"Give me your bible, and I can prove it!"	Jan 07 06:23
DaemonFC	His dad: "OK"	Jan 07 06:23
DaemonFC	Hicks: "What does it say on the front?"	Jan 07 06:23
DaemonFC	His dad: "Holy Bible"	Jan 07 06:23
DaemonFC	Hicks: "What else does it say?"	Jan 07 06:23
DaemonFC	His Dad: "King James Version"	Jan 07 06:23
DaemonFC	Hicks: "King James's version! Lets take a minute and read King Willie's Version!"	Jan 07 06:24
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MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/iwCxVmj.jpg	Jan 07 07:15
Sosumi	ho lol	Jan 07 07:28
Sosumi	backwards USA	Jan 07 07:29
Sosumi	not seeing that the guy was a foreigner :(	Jan 07 07:30
Sosumi	and ho well, I just woke up and the wind is blowing so hard that if I'm not careful	Jan 07 07:30
Sosumi	I might be carried away by it	Jan 07 07:30
Sosumi	but it's not cold	Jan 07 07:31
Sosumi	it's 20 ºC inside home with no climatization	Jan 07 07:32
Sosumi	15 ºC	Jan 07 07:45
Sosumi	outside	Jan 07 07:45
Sosumi	with some light rain	Jan 07 07:45
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DaemonFC	It's terribly cold outside right now.	Jan 07 08:27
DaemonFC	I haven't left the house since Sunday.	Jan 07 08:28
DaemonFC	I hurried up and went grocery shopping before the storm hit.	Jan 07 08:28
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 07 09:26
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roy_	https://twitter.com/mancow_/status/420496719156350976	Jan 07 10:26
TechrightsBot-tr	@mancow_: @aral @schestowitz from 2010	Jan 07 10:26
roy_	https://twitter.com/mancow_/status/420496719156350976	Jan 07 10:26
roy_	https://twitter.com/sophistifunk/status/420493000809000960	Jan 07 10:27
TechrightsBot-tr	@sophistifunk: @aral @schestowitz appalling, but no longer shocking.	Jan 07 10:27
roy_	https://twitter.com/aral/status/420491790240976896	Jan 07 10:27
TechrightsBot-tr	@aral: RT @schestowitz: Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest http://t.co/1yWmevkRjk WTF? This is shocking.	Jan 07 10:27
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.mirror.co.uk \| Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest - Mirror Online	Jan 07 10:27
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3487303	Jan 07 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:	Jan 07 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by j_maltez@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_bfae711af7952b94d540.png	Jan 07 10:30
roy_	"I started so that I could follow the path of least resistance, which is often quitting...;-)))"	Jan 07 10:30
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3490733	Jan 07 10:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boy-of-12-hauled-out-of-class-268999#.UsvHwp09L6Q.twitter no comment needed. #uk #policestate	Jan 07 10:48
roy_	"Wankers..."	Jan 07 10:48
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roy_	MinceR: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BanDKf0CMAEXElG.jpg:large	Jan 07 10:50
MinceR	+1	Jan 07 10:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Balky carriers and slow OEMs step aside: Google	Jan 07 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	is defragging Android http://t.co/xi9QqfSnJb	Jan 07 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcw1a	Jan 07 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Bringing Firefox OS to TVs, Tablets,	Jan 07 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	Desktops http://t.co/BKNwMcw9qO	Jan 07 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcw1d	Jan 07 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Balky carriers and slow OEMs step aside: Google is defragging Android \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla Bringing Firefox OS to TVs, Tablets, Desktops \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Developers mull adding data nuke to Kali Linux	Jan 07 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7HN3OzPbjw	Jan 07 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcw1g	Jan 07 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Developers mull adding data nuke to Kali Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 11:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Emergency Self Destruction of LUKS in Kali	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OPDHAvN7Ug	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwj2	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LG Bets on WebOS for New Smart TV Line	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UGoDtsGrWc	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwj3	Jan 07 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Emergency Self Destruction of LUKS in Kali \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines As Chromebook sales soar, the debate roars	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	about who it hurt http://t.co/HKLPxBYsgJ	Jan 07 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| LG Bets on WebOS for New Smart TV Line \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwj5	Jan 07 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| As Chromebook sales soar, the debate roars about who it hurt \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone Leaked Images Spotted Online	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6iONeKhjz5	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwj6	Jan 07 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| First Ubuntu Phone Leaked Images Spotted Online \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt 5.3+ To Have Printing Support Improvements	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xOFizknmJn	Jan 07 12:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwj7	Jan 07 12:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Qt 5.3+ To Have Printing Support Improvements \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pat Pilcher: Windows XP support ending, should	Jan 07 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	we be worried? http://t.co/Btp9MtJAkN	Jan 07 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxg	Jan 07 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony Class Action Over Linux On PS3 Partially	Jan 07 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	Revived http://t.co/rDBPfZypQ4	Jan 07 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxh	Jan 07 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Creating GNU on UNIX http://t.co/O0BG6YCS4K	Jan 07 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxi	Jan 07 12:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Pat Pilcher: Windows XP support ending, should we be worried? \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Sony Class Action Over Linux On PS3 Partially Revived \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP takes Android PCs commercial	Jan 07 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/REjABGcIMe	Jan 07 12:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Creating GNU on UNIX \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxj	Jan 07 12:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| HP takes Android PCs commercial \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nvidia's Tegra K1 tablet shows a beautiful	Jan 07 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	future for Android gaming	Jan 07 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RlLD1aNzEu	Jan 07 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxl	Jan 07 12:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Nvidia's Tegra K1 tablet shows a beautiful future for Android gaming \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 12:49
Sosumi	http://rense.com/1.imagesH/DavidDees-GlobalWarming.Gif	Jan 07 12:51
Sosumi	meanwhile the cold is being the scapegoat for underperforming stock and economic performance not meeting predictions	Jan 07 12:53
Sosumi	also, no unicorns	Jan 07 12:54
Sosumi	but I like cold	Jan 07 12:55
MinceR	there will be plenty of it in europe for a while after the gulf current stops	Jan 07 12:56
Sosumi	if you want me never leaving home, bring the summer	Jan 07 12:56
Sosumi	and I'll never leave my AC unit	Jan 07 12:56
MinceR	yeah, cold can at least be managed via clothing	Jan 07 12:56
MinceR	for hot, it would be nice to have a power armor with AC built-in	Jan 07 12:57
Sosumi	reactive armor	Jan 07 12:57
Sosumi	capable of deflecting radiation	Jan 07 12:58
Sosumi	the folks at fukushima would love one	Jan 07 12:58
Sosumi	and so would I	Jan 07 12:58
Sosumi	because it'd deflect infrared and UV	Jan 07 12:58
Sosumi	and dirty radiation	Jan 07 12:59
Sosumi	from radio and leakage from the electrical wires	Jan 07 13:00
Sosumi	on this case	Jan 07 13:01
Sosumi	it wouldn't be reactive	Jan 07 13:01
Sosumi	but deflective	Jan 07 13:01
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Sosumi	http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,8175.0.html	Jan 07 13:30
TechrightsBot-tr	forum.netkas.org \| Maxed out $10K nMP beats 91% of all computers, but oMP beats 97% OUCH !!!! [ http://ur1.ca/gcxfb ]	Jan 07 13:30
Sosumi	and doesn't suffer from cooling issues	Jan 07 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Adding Enginio (qtenginio) to the Qt release	Jan 07 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IYMEWS0vtt	Jan 07 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxh3	Jan 07 13:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Adding Enginio (qtenginio) to the Qt release \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 13:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Frameworks 5 Tech Preview	Jan 07 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fabDPPWnev	Jan 07 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxxe	Jan 07 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A minty fresh start http://t.co/NYfzkrJJZ8	Jan 07 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxxf	Jan 07 14:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Frameworks 5 Tech Preview \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 14:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| A minty fresh start \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla partners with Panasonic to bring	Jan 07 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	Firefox OS to the TV, details progress on	Jan 07 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	tablet and desktop versions	Jan 07 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Rot03sv2kf	Jan 07 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxxg	Jan 07 14:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla partners with Panasonic to bring Firefox OS to the TV, details progress on tablet and desktop versions \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 14:24
Sosumi	WebOS on LG TVs, Firefox OS on panasonic tvs	Jan 07 14:28
Sosumi	awesome	Jan 07 14:28
Sosumi	now lets hope there's no telemetry tools (aka viewing habits...) inserted by the OEMs	Jan 07 14:30
Sosumi	because other "smartTVs" were already using linux alongside GNU packages	Jan 07 14:32
Sosumi	but with malicious functionality built in	Jan 07 14:32
MinceR	even non-smart ones use linux	Jan 07 14:32
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 07 14:32
Sosumi	all it needs is to have some sort of post processing system to have linux	Jan 07 14:34
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8FdkMqlzco	Jan 07 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Foz do Douro tempestade Hércules - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gcy18 ]	Jan 07 14:36
MinceR	or to play from usb	Jan 07 14:36
Sosumi	yes, that too and decode the file	Jan 07 14:36
Sosumi	that's how bad coastal weather was yesterday	Jan 07 14:37
Sosumi	0.50 and everyone's running	Jan 07 14:37
Sosumi	run forrest run	Jan 07 14:38
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Sosumi	didn't have the opportunity to go see how bad maritime agitation was in the lower part of lisbon	Jan 07 14:41
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Sosumi	but I can guess it'd be around the same as in that video	Jan 07 14:42
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iophk	Updated 2x	Jan 07 15:00
iophk	http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-uk-porn-filter-blocks-kids-access.html	Jan 07 15:00
TechrightsBot-tr	bsdly.blogspot.com \| That grumpy BSD guy: The UK "Porn" Filter Blocks Kids' Access To Tech, Civil Liberties Websites [ http://ur1.ca/gcy7q ]	Jan 07 15:00
Sosumi	they always use porn as scapegoat for censorship	Jan 07 15:06
iophk	It's the wedge they use to get it accepted.	Jan 07 15:06
Sosumi	I also don't see any problem with porn	Jan 07 15:07
Sosumi	the "kids" will eventually have to know that stuff	Jan 07 15:07
Sosumi	or lets have sexual education, pfff	Jan 07 15:08
Sosumi	so dumb	Jan 07 15:08
MinceR	i don't see any problem with it either	Jan 07 15:10
iophk	http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240212085/Android-set-to-reach-one-billion-users-in-2014	Jan 07 15:15
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerweekly.com \| Android set to reach one billion users in 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gcyc3 ]	Jan 07 15:15
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iophk	http://www.eweek.com/mobile/android-leads-smartphones-sales-ios-share-slides-kantar.html	Jan 07 15:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eweek.com \| Android Leads Smartphones Sales, iOS Share Slides: Kantar [ http://ur1.ca/gcyd6 ]	Jan 07 15:18
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Sosumi	http://thenextweb.com/insider/2014/01/07/intel-ceo-brian-krzanich-announces-mcafee-brand-name-will-replaced-intel-security/#!rDKuG	Jan 07 15:59
TechrightsBot-tr	thenextweb.com \| McAfee Brand Name will be Replaced by Intel Security [ http://ur1.ca/gcynr ]	Jan 07 15:59
Sosumi	rofl	Jan 07 15:59
MinceR	InSecurity, for short	Jan 07 15:59
Sosumi	my point exactly :)	Jan 07 16:01
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Sosumi	I guess that at this point, DaemonFC must be trying to dig himself out of his flat	Jan 07 16:38
iophk	"My elation at Intel's decision is beyond words."	Jan 07 16:40
iophk	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25631183	Jan 07 16:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - CES 2014: Director loses direction as teleprompter fails [ http://ur1.ca/gd01w ]	Jan 07 16:40
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3491958	Jan 07 16:59
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember when British newspapers told us this winter would be extremely cold & it would be a white xmas? What crock. Forecasting months b4.	Jan 07 16:59
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schestowitz	"we have 10 plus degrees in Sweden there should be minus 10 at this time..."	Jan 07 16:59
iophk	more of a bad summer than any kind of a winter	Jan 07 16:59
schestowitz	"in the middle of Sweden *"	Jan 07 16:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3491382	Jan 07 17:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Any stories/evidence (other than one article from WSJ) that tablets are turned into listening devices, specifically in the #uk ?	Jan 07 17:00
schestowitz	"Check rms political notes. I remember a serries of links from him a few years ago. The big signs are shortened battery life and the thing being warm even when turned off. I use an ancient Nokia brick to limit the damsge that might be done but I want to move to wifi sip by separate device mifi. Open Moko was supposed to be a clean phone. It will probably be another year or two before it is easy e.nough for me to be able to have a smart	Jan 07 17:00
schestowitz	phone."	Jan 07 17:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3491738	Jan 07 17:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Convert Your Routers and Hubs to Free Software in Order to Dodge Back Doors http://techrights.org/2014/01/07/routers-and-hubs-back-doors/ #freesw #privacy #bt #cisco #belkin	Jan 07 17:00
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Convert Your Routers and Hubs to Free Software in Order to Dodge Back Doors \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gd0qo ]	Jan 07 17:00
schestowitz	"a new software solution related: https://diasp.org/posts/2636379"	Jan 07 17:00
TechrightsBot-tr	diasp.org \| Dowse : a minimal...	Jan 07 17:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3490813	Jan 07 17:01
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fox 'news' speaks to a #drone assassin who killed thousands (mostly innocent). Notice how he smiles. http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/3020757926001/us-government-dishonest-about-drone-use/?playlist_id=937116489001	Jan 07 17:01
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 404 @ http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/3020757926001/us-government-dishonest-about-drone-use/?playlist_id=937116489001 )	Jan 07 17:01
schestowitz	"The 'smile' is where he is trying very hard to join 'the other side' mixed with a slightly nervous laughter..... in my opinion....his words are the important part."	Jan 07 17:01
schestowitz	words are cheaper than emotion	Jan 07 17:01
Sosumi	he's disconnected from the reality, probably for him it's like playing a game	Jan 07 17:03
Sosumi	if the drone gets trashed they'll just hand him another one	Jan 07 17:03
Sosumi	aka respawn	Jan 07 17:03
Sosumi	next they need field drones	Jan 07 17:07
Sosumi	or hybrid drones, that can operate in the air (remote deployment) and on the soil	Jan 07 17:08
Sosumi	powered exoskeletons would be nice too	Jan 07 17:08
Sosumi	specially if they pump the troops with stimulants	Jan 07 17:09
Sosumi	ofc that despiste my colorful ideas,	Jan 07 17:09
Sosumi	I'm just being sarcastic	Jan 07 17:09
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3490813	Jan 07 17:14
schestowitz	":)"	Jan 07 17:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3486196	Jan 07 17:14
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: *Another happy little dog. It's the sunday funny day!*	Jan 07 17:14
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_844fbcf071e4ed3f8120.gif	Jan 07 17:14
schestowitz	"Which means he's intelligent ... or not playful"	Jan 07 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/1cSqV1Byf1	Jan 07 17:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/WGTHvl1Ylo	Jan 07 17:16
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iophk	http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11182498	Jan 07 17:45
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iophk	http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/07/technology/social/zuckerberg-files/	Jan 07 18:15
TechrightsBot-tr	money.cnn.com \| The Zuckerberg Files: Here's everything Mark Zuckerberg has ever said - Jan. 7, 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gd2p3 ]	Jan 07 18:15
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iophk	"Zuckerberg has said "privacy" and "private" only 68 times in public since 2009. "	Jan 07 18:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Putting Chromebook Sales in Proper Perspective	Jan 07 18:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xd1zaZr0Sx	Jan 07 18:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu developer builds Pirate Bay torrent	Jan 07 18:57
TweetTuxMachines	search into operating system	Jan 07 18:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ylAwSaraJY	Jan 07 18:57
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu developer builds Pirate Bay torrent search into operating system \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 18:57
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iophk	http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/us-ces-intel-mcafee-idUSBREA060YM20140107	Jan 07 20:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.reuters.com \| John McAfee says glad Intel dropping his name from security software \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gd3m6 ]	Jan 07 20:48
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Sosumi	another virtual currency	Jan 07 21:16
Sosumi	coinye	Jan 07 21:16
Sosumi	lol	Jan 07 21:17
Sosumi	say it on a loop and it'll sound more and more to Koni	Jan 07 21:17
MinceR	west?	Jan 07 21:17
Sosumi	and if you're portuguese you'll probably spell it as cona-ye	Jan 07 21:18
Sosumi	no, the thing with "Clownye" West was because of it sounding similar to his name	Jan 07 21:19
MinceR	:)	Jan 07 21:20
Sosumi	I think I'll register a domain called clownyewest.com	Jan 07 21:20
Sosumi	make a big fuss about it	Jan 07 21:20
Sosumi	and then ask for 1 million dollars to take it down/give ownership to the real "clownye" west	Jan 07 21:21
Sosumi	http://d2oadd98wnjs7n.cloudfront.net/file_attachments/42435/files/20130830043612-Dr._Evil_1_million_dollars.gif?1377862572	Jan 07 21:22
Sosumi	also asus to trow in more affordable 4k displays	Jan 07 21:24
Sosumi	but I'd love a single ultra wide 21:9 4k display	Jan 07 21:24
Sosumi	in a 32 inches format	Jan 07 21:25
Sosumi	that'd be ok to replace my dual 24 inch displays	Jan 07 21:25
Sosumi	but one of thing I came to hate with dual displays is that one of them	Jan 07 21:25
Sosumi	usually the secondary one	Jan 07 21:26
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Sosumi	ends up with burns all over it	Jan 07 21:26
Sosumi	since it is displaying static content all the time	Jan 07 21:26
Sosumi	and is not used to watch video or play some game	Jan 07 21:27
Sosumi	and yes, mine is burned	Jan 07 21:27
Sosumi	both are HP LP2475w	Jan 07 21:27
Sosumi	featuring LG IPS panels	Jan 07 21:27
Sosumi	which are actually known for being easy to burn in	Jan 07 21:27
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Sosumi	so my focus displays has only a slight burn	Jan 07 21:28
Sosumi	while the other has burns all over it	Jan 07 21:28
Sosumi	and ofc, both are "properly" calibrated and used at 50% brightness	Jan 07 21:29
Sosumi	also, if you want to run more than 1 4k display	Jan 07 21:31
Sosumi	at 60Hz	Jan 07 21:32
Sosumi	you're going to need display port	Jan 07 21:32
Sosumi	and no nvidia card atm is coming with more than 1	Jan 07 21:32
Sosumi	only amd seems to care about it	Jan 07 21:32
Sosumi	which is sad	Jan 07 21:32
Sosumi	since there's no point to have hdmi or mini hdmi on video cards	Jan 07 21:32
Sosumi	since display port can do audio too	Jan 07 21:33
Sosumi	and be converted	Jan 07 21:33
Sosumi	but the ideal, would actually be getting rid of the dual DVI ports	Jan 07 21:33
Sosumi	for display port	Jan 07 21:33
Sosumi	and just use and adaptor if the necessary	Jan 07 21:33
MinceR	also, the McAfee video on uninstalling is awesome	Jan 07 22:22
MinceR	http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140107/AUTO01/301070017	Jan 07 22:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.detroitnews.com \| Carmakers keep data on drivers' locations \| The Detroit News [ http://ur1.ca/gd4br ]	Jan 07 22:44
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Sosumi	DaemonFC, buried in snow?	Jan 07 23:08
DaemonFC	Seems that way.	Jan 07 23:18
DaemonFC	I haven't been outside today, but it still looks bad.	Jan 07 23:18
MinceR	gn	Jan 07 23:19
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Viper550	MPAA joined W3C	Jan 07 23:26
MinceR	about time	Jan 07 23:26
MinceR	to join drm fan tim berners-lee	Jan 07 23:27
DaemonFC	I posted this to Facebook.	Jan 07 23:40
DaemonFC	The World Wide Web Consortium has just announced that it has lost all credibility as a web standards committee. It has allowed the Motion Picture Association of America in as a member, and it is considering adding Digital Restrictions Malware that Apple, Microsoft, Google, and Netflix asked for as a "standard".	Jan 07 23:40
DaemonFC	Now, it's clear that Chris Dodd, the former Senator turned MPAA kingpin is now running the W3C. Dodd was the most corrupt Senator in history. After profiteering from the Countrywide Mortgage scandal, then taking MPAA/RIAA bribes to introduce SOPA, he resigned and was immediately offered his current position at the MPAA.	Jan 07 23:40
DaemonFC	He belongs behind bars. If they ever brought charges against Dodd for even half of the felonies that he has committed, he would never see the light of day again.	Jan 07 23:40
DaemonFC	Digital Restrictions Malware is not, can not, and never will be an open standard, because as soon as you tell people how it works, it no longer does work.	Jan 07 23:40
DaemonFC	It's obvious now, that when the W3C allowed the Electronic Frontier Foundation and Mozilla to join, it did it to provide cover for this assault on our freedom. Apple, Microsoft, Google, Netflix, and Opera can out-vote and strongarm these watchdogs of freedom, so they were never going to be allowed to successfully oppose the corporate malware.	Jan 07 23:40
DaemonFC	There's too much corporate influence at W3C and their existing open standards need to be forked, and a new non-profit web standards agency needs to be created. I think it should be the Mozilla Foundation.	Jan 07 23:40
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 01:32
DaemonFC	I don't talk about Duck Dynasty much. Everyone that is capable of understanding what a crock of **** religious fundamentalism is already understands what it is.	Jan 08 01:32
DaemonFC	Talking about these things just plays into their hands. They wanted some free publicity. They knew that their hardcore far-right wing ****head fans would go out and buy their stuff because they want to support bigotry. The mind of a fundie isn't really that complicated.	Jan 08 01:32
DaemonFC	The Duck Dynasty guys are millionaires, and they're not dumb. They know they can make even more money by pulling the strings of simpletons. Where do you see their merchandise? Walmart. Where does trash love to shop? Walmart. OK then. We've figured out who buys this stuff.	Jan 08 01:32
DaemonFC	I understand that Walmart sells Apple products now. They're made in factories that force women to have abortions, where several workers commit suicide every day. Right-wing Christians love Apple. There's a lot of hypocrisy coming from right-wing Christians. Do you expect anything they say or do to make sense? You're going to be waiting around for a long time, and you're going to be really disappointed.	Jan 08 01:32
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 01:39
DaemonFC	On the other hand, Apple is talking about moving some of their Mac PC assembly back to the United States. They shut down the last plant that made desktop Macs (the PowerMac models) back in 2002.	Jan 08 01:39
DaemonFC	Amazingly, in just a little over a decade, wages in China and fuel costs have gone up enough, and wage and hour standards in the US have declined enough, that opening assembly plants in the US is profitable again. The jobs start at $9 an hour, which is like $6.95 an hour in 2002 Dollars.	Jan 08 01:39
DaemonFC	Apple plans to open mini-plants with less than 50 workers so they aren't covered by the the family medical leave act, and can quickly shut down if the workers try to organize for better pay.	Jan 08 01:39
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schestowitz	https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2616/4014256437_c52777a4c0_z.jpg	Jan 08 02:18
schestowitz	[23:27] <MinceR> to join drm fan tim berners-lee	Jan 08 02:26
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 08 02:26
schestowitz	who joins who? :-)	Jan 08 02:26
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schestowitz	MinceR: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/01/hungary-after-communism/	Jan 08 02:34
TechrightsBot-tr	www.jacobinmag.com \| Hungary After Communism \| Jacobin [ http://ur1.ca/gd5ec ]	Jan 08 02:34
schestowitz	"The party’s leader, Viktor Orbán, is the most memorable of the former Communist regime’s opponents, described at the time of its 1989 overthrow by historian Timothy Garton Ash as the “fiery, black-bearded” activist who was the only speaker at dissident leader Imre Nagy’s reburial to inspire a heated response from the restive crowd. “Of all the leaders of the post-Communist era, he’s the only one they’ll build a statue	Jan 08 02:34
schestowitz	of,” as one journalist told me."	Jan 08 02:35
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Snowleaksange	http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/the-danger-of-nsa-spying-on-members-of-congress/282827/	Jan 08 05:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theatlantic.com \| The Danger of NSA Spying on Members of Congress - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/gd6zv ]	Jan 08 05:37
Snowleaksange	http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/01/07/california-legislators-introduce-bill-to-banish-nsa	Jan 08 05:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.usnews.com \| California Legislators Introduce Bill To Banish NSA - US News and World Report [ http://ur1.ca/gd73h ]	Jan 08 05:52
DaemonFC	I was hoping that Chrome for Android would support extensions.	Jan 08 05:56
DaemonFC	It's not a hell of a lot better than the stock Android browser.	Jan 08 05:57
DaemonFC	It allows Google to update their rendering engine separately from the system's version, but that's about all it does.	Jan 08 05:57
DaemonFC	It doesn't support extensions, and there's no way to block ads and other annoyances.	Jan 08 05:57
DaemonFC	Things that can be annoying on a desktop web browser, such as pop ups and pop unders, are much worse when you're browsing the web on a phone or tablet.	Jan 08 05:58
DaemonFC	And, Firefox is the only browser for Android that lets you install an ad blocking plugin.	Jan 08 05:58
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Snowleaksange	just sent 500 bucks each to ted lieu and joel anderson, the cali senators who authored bill denying nsa material support from cali	Jan 08 06:13
Snowleaksange	finally someone representing me	Jan 08 06:14
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MinceR	schestowitz: orban was always such a great enemy of communism that he joined KISZ, the youth organization of MSZMS	Jan 08 06:46
MinceR	schestowitz: orban was always such a great enemy of communism that he joined KISZ, the youth organization of MSZMP, the communist state party	Jan 08 06:46
MinceR	and his actions are reminiscent of what the commie dictators like rakosi did	Jan 08 06:46
MinceR	he, like many others, were socialized in the commie dictatorship and can't think of any other way to run a country	Jan 08 06:47
MinceR	also, i think that his supposedly liberal act was merely an act	Jan 08 06:50
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MinceR	"The government is trying to make up the lost revenues with a bastardized version of the Tobin tax"	Jan 08 06:56
MinceR	they actually created lots of new taxes	Jan 08 06:56
MinceR	and increased VAT to the highest in the EU	Jan 08 06:56
MinceR	but most of the childish savages that live in this joke of a country probably still believe that the nazis "lowered the taxes"	Jan 08 06:57
Sosumi	the Tobin tax is about taxing financial transaction at the stock exchange	Jan 08 06:58
MinceR	"liberal party, the Alliance of Free Democrats"	Jan 08 06:58
Sosumi	and that also means the killing of HFT and some kinds of derivatives	Jan 08 06:58
MinceR	any party that votes in favor of criminalizing holocaust denial is against freedom of speech, and as such, is not a "liberal party"	Jan 08 06:58
MinceR	hungarians have no idea what liberalism is	Jan 08 06:58
Sosumi	which I am all for it	Jan 08 06:59
Sosumi	actually, I'm all for banning derivatives	Jan 08 06:59
MinceR	afaik these so-called "liberals" also voted for the "objective responsibility" law, which was the first blow against rule of law	Jan 08 06:59
MinceR	Sosumi: they're actually taxing pretty much all bank transactions	Jan 08 07:00
MinceR	and not using the money to insure the banks	Jan 08 07:00
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Sosumi	not in here	Jan 08 07:07
Sosumi	we still have no financial transaction tax	Jan 08 07:07
Sosumi	the nearest country to actually have one is italy	Jan 08 07:07
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Sosumi	also the kind of liberalism you see around is a decadent-liberalism	Jan 08 07:08
Sosumi	the real liberalism could be said that it started with jefferson, Ben Franklin, Hamilton and son on	Jan 08 07:09
Sosumi	*so on	Jan 08 07:09
Sosumi	this kind of liberalism you see today is the rejection of all morals	Jan 08 07:09
Sosumi	and that is why you merger between the private powers and public office	Jan 08 07:10
Sosumi	also the revolving door	Jan 08 07:10
Sosumi	and criminalizing holocaust denial?	Jan 08 07:11
Sosumi	lol, that equals, if you criticize the official story, you immediately get labeled as a denier	Jan 08 07:12
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 07:12
Sosumi	and those holocaust numbers are way off and so is much of rethoric about it	Jan 08 07:12
MinceR	it also means that the government decides what people are supposed to believe	Jan 08 07:13
Sosumi	in most cases it was to instill guilt into the germans in order to just comply and be ashamed	Jan 08 07:13
Sosumi	stallin and mao	Jan 08 07:13
MinceR	and instead of supplying the existing proof, the response to holocaust denial is to turn it into something that looks like some secret truth the government is afraid of	Jan 08 07:13
Sosumi	killed way more ppl than the shicklegruber guy	Jan 08 07:14
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 07:14
MinceR	though they were not as proud of it as the schicklgruber guy	Jan 08 07:14
MinceR	they tried to hide a lot of it	Jan 08 07:14
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 08 07:14
MinceR	for example, they tried to pretend that the nazis did the katyn massacre	Jan 08 07:15
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Sosumi	yeah I read about that and a ton of other conflicting stories	Jan 08 07:21
Sosumi	there was also the Augustów roundup	Jan 08 07:22
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DaemonFC	http://stallman.org/archives/2013-nov-feb.html#06_January_2014_%28US_gov%27t_goes_to_cruel_extremes_to_collect_college_debt%29	Jan 08 07:51
TechrightsBot-tr	stallman.org \| 2013: November - February Political Notes - Richard Stallman [ http://ur1.ca/gd7s3 ]	Jan 08 07:51
DaemonFC	"a large part of these debts were for payments to for-profit colleges that tend to be a waste of money in the first place."	Jan 08 07:51
DaemonFC	The Art Institute	Jan 08 07:51
DaemonFC	http://petapixel.com/2011/09/02/us-gov-sues-the-art-institutes-for-11-billion-fraud/	Jan 08 07:52
TechrightsBot-tr	petapixel.com \| US Gov Sues The Art Institutes for $11 Billion Fraud [ http://ur1.ca/gd7sc ]	Jan 08 07:52
DaemonFC	Someone I know went there and ended up with no job and lots of debt.	Jan 08 07:52
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DaemonFC	http://networkedblogs.com/SDdaz	Jan 08 08:19
TechrightsBot-tr	networkedblogs.com \| Welcoming the CentOS Community to the Red Hat family.	Jan 08 08:19
DaemonFC	Red Hat is now sponsoring the CentOS project.	Jan 08 08:19
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Might want to include that in your links.	Jan 08 08:19
DaemonFC	http://community.redhat.com/centos-faq/	Jan 08 08:19
TechrightsBot-tr	community.redhat.com \| Red Hat + CentOS — Red Hat Open Source Community	Jan 08 08:20
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 08:37
DaemonFC	Right-wing Christians: "God created everything and everyone!"	Jan 08 08:37
DaemonFC	Everything and everyone?	Jan 08 08:37
DaemonFC	Right-wing Christians: "That's right!"	Jan 08 08:37
DaemonFC	Even Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 08:37
DaemonFC	Right-wing Christians: "Err, uhhm, uhhhh...."	Jan 08 08:37
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MinceR	lol	Jan 08 09:09
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DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1601485_702071639814704_1112690263_n.jpg	Jan 08 09:19
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 09:21
MinceR	geekings	Jan 08 09:22
schestowitz	DaemonFC: centos?	Jan 08 09:27
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 08 09:36
DaemonFC	MinceR, Did God create everything or did God not create Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 09:42
DaemonFC	I'm confused.	Jan 08 09:42
DaemonFC	Who created Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 09:42
MinceR	DaemonFC: "God" doesn't exist, never did, and neither do those particular hypothetical "Adam" and "Steve"	Jan 08 09:43
DaemonFC	I know. I mean, Christians say that God created everything.	Jan 08 09:43
MinceR	:>	Jan 08 09:43
DaemonFC	But they also say that God did not create Adam and Steve.	Jan 08 09:43
DaemonFC	So, who created Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 09:43
DaemonFC	And if he didn't create Adam and Steve, is there a particular Adam and Steve that he didn't create, or does this apply to anyone named Adam or Steve?	Jan 08 09:44
MinceR	ask a christian :>	Jan 08 09:44
DaemonFC	Does it include my uncle Steve?	Jan 08 09:44
DaemonFC	Why would parents name their children Adam or Steve? Wouldn't they want God to approve of their children?	Jan 08 09:45
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 08 09:45
MinceR	i certainly wouldn't	Jan 08 09:50
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 11:35
DaemonFC	If the Republicans want to do us the ultimate favor, I'd suggest that they line up to perform Seppuku, one by one, live on C-SPAN. It's really the least that they owe the American people at this point.	Jan 08 11:35
DaemonFC	Failing that, someone can send Senator Rand Paul some of Kentucky's finest crystal meth. The stuff brewed up by desperate unemployed coal miners that lost their job due to natural gas and then had their unemployment insurance cut, as Senator Paul said, as a "favor" to them. They could mix it into his coffee. It would provide us with at least several minutes of entertainment as he runs through the Senate chamber, tweaking and puking his guts	Jan 08 11:35
DaemonFC	out.	Jan 08 11:35
Sosumi	didn't allah create everything?	Jan 08 11:37
Sosumi	dum christians :)	Jan 08 11:38
Sosumi	*dumb	Jan 08 11:38
MinceR	"allah" is just "god" in arabic	Jan 08 11:40
MinceR	afaik	Jan 08 11:40
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MinceR	(and therefore refers to yahweh all the same)	Jan 08 11:41
Sosumi	I was just trolling	Jan 08 11:42
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Sosumi	http://www.macrumors.com/2014/01/08/ces-2014-flir-systems-debuts-flir-one-thermal-camera-case-for-iphone-5s-and-iphone-5/	Jan 08 11:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.macrumors.com \| CES 2014: FLIR Systems Debuts 'FLIR ONE' Thermal Camera Case for iPhone 5s and iPhone 5 - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gd8w1 ]	Jan 08 11:43
Sosumi	it's for the hypephone	Jan 08 11:44
Sosumi	but, that means you'll finally be able to see thermal signatures on a numberpad lock	Jan 08 11:44
Sosumi	like sam fisher from splinter cell :P	Jan 08 11:44
MinceR	still doesn't make it worth buying a hypePhone	Jan 08 11:45
Sosumi	well you can always punch someone in the face and get his	Jan 08 11:45
Sosumi	or politely ask a friend for his older model	Jan 08 11:45
MinceR	or just look for an equivalent that doesn't require a hypePhone	Jan 08 11:46
Sosumi	that too	Jan 08 11:46
MinceR	or just hack a camera, remove the IR filter	Jan 08 11:46
DaemonFC	"That's strange. According to these readings, your body is at room temperature. Oh wait, my phone froze again. Shit."	Jan 08 11:47
Sosumi	the ideal, would be some googles capable of night vision and thermal	Jan 08 11:47
MinceR	lol	Jan 08 11:48
Sosumi	ninjas are cool and penetration testing is fun	Jan 08 11:48
Sosumi	even if you do it for the kicks	Jan 08 11:48
Sosumi	plus this isn't the US and you wont get shot	Jan 08 11:49
DaemonFC	I pointed out on Amazon Forums that I had sex, dated, and used drugs when I was a teenager.	Jan 08 11:49
DaemonFC	It was a post I made about the UK's porn censor.	Jan 08 11:49
Sosumi	security guards don't even carry guns	Jan 08 11:49
DaemonFC	I said "...and I had a really great time. Sorry!"	Jan 08 11:49
Sosumi	at most you get chased down, but if you're not slacker you'll be able to outrun them	Jan 08 11:50
Sosumi	lol	Jan 08 11:50
MinceR	slacker? i don't even know 'er!	Jan 08 11:50
Sosumi	I meant slacker in the kind of staying in shape	Jan 08 11:51
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 11:51
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MinceR	that shape could be round	Jan 08 11:51
Sosumi	terminator shape	Jan 08 11:51
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 11:52
DaemonFC	I posted on Amazon Forums:	Jan 08 12:32
DaemonFC	When you get a right-wing extremist, they're setting fire to gay bars, trying to make sure that the next Adam Lanza can get an uzi, and trying to murder Congressmen.	Jan 08 12:32
DaemonFC	When you get a left-wing extremist, Bernie Sanders talks about expanding Social Security benefits and increasing the minimum wage to $10.	Jan 08 12:32
DaemonFC	Gee. Let me think.... Who do I want running this country?	Jan 08 12:32
DaemonFC	http://www.nbcnews.com/id/53999212#.Uswl4fvfjd4	Jan 08 12:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nbcnews.com \| Ex-Cops Faked Disabilities: DA - Local News - New York, NY \| NBC News [ http://ur1.ca/gd95c ]	Jan 08 12:47
DaemonFC	The cops said that they couldn't shop or drive, and then they posted pictures of themselves on jet skis while they were buying shit with their credit cards.	Jan 08 12:48
DaemonFC	The government got most of its evidence from Facebook posts from the "disabled" cops.	Jan 08 12:48
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DaemonFC	I was watching a Mr. Bean video on Youtube yesterday.	Jan 08 13:16
DaemonFC	It was the Christmas one. He's in a department store and playing around with a nativity scene.	Jan 08 13:17
DaemonFC	He attacks it with a toy dalek and T-Rex.	Jan 08 13:17
DaemonFC	That was the funniest thing I've seen in a while.	Jan 08 13:17
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fewt	Bernie Sanders is a smart guy	Jan 08 13:30
fewt	he makes a lot of sense	Jan 08 13:30
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MinceR	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/	Jan 08 14:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.wired.com \| OnStar Tracks Your Car Even When You Cancel Service \| Threat Level \| Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/gd9iy ]	Jan 08 14:03
iophk	http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2321676/red-hat-partners-with-centos-to-drive-open-source-innovation-in-cloud	Jan 08 14:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.v3.co.uk \| Red Hat partners with CentOS to drive open source innovation in cloud - IT News from V3.co.uk [ http://ur1.ca/gd9no ]	Jan 08 14:36
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iophk	"Yahoo Tech, another magazine, is helmed by former New York Times tech columnist David Pogue, who came onstage to launch the new site."	Jan 08 14:49
iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/kate-couric-vs-david-pogue-who-will-be-the-new-face-of-yahoo/2014/01/07/3b306db6-77eb-11e3-af7f-13bf0e9965f6_story.html	Jan 08 14:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| Kate Couric vs. David Pogue: Who will be the new face of Yahoo? - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/gd9qm ]	Jan 08 14:49
Sosumi	http://gizmodo.com/i-wore-the-new-oculus-rift-and-i-never-want-to-look-at-1496569598	Jan 08 14:52
TechrightsBot-tr	gizmodo.com \| I Wore the New Oculus Rift and I Never Want to Look at Real Life Again [ http://ur1.ca/gd9r3 ]	Jan 08 14:52
Sosumi	oculus rift would be awesome if you could actually use it as a display replacement	Jan 08 14:53
Sosumi	and aside the head tracking feature they built in now	Jan 08 14:54
Sosumi	it needs brain sensors so that you can control basic desktop functionality with thought	Jan 08 14:55
Sosumi	kind of like zooming in/out a virtual desktop	Jan 08 14:55
Sosumi	display all the virtual desktops	Jan 08 14:55
Sosumi	namely, window manipulation	Jan 08 14:56
Sosumi	I've already had folks complaining that they wouldn't be able to see their keyboards	Jan 08 14:57
Sosumi	but hey, I type without looking at my kb	Jan 08 14:57
Sosumi	DAS also has a KB without key prints	Jan 08 14:57
MinceR	others do too	Jan 08 14:57
Sosumi	and some keyprints on my KB are so vanished that I really don't care either	Jan 08 14:58
MinceR	iirc das uses crappy costar stabilizers, though	Jan 08 14:58
Sosumi	duno	Jan 08 14:58
Sosumi	I kind of only like the steelseries 7g	Jan 08 14:58
Sosumi	which is the model I have	Jan 08 14:58
Sosumi	and it feels excelent to type on it	Jan 08 14:59
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MinceR	i like my cherry ML-based cherry keyboards and my logitech G710+	Jan 08 14:59
Sosumi	mine has cherry mx black	Jan 08 15:00
MinceR	the latter has mx brown	Jan 08 15:00
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iophk	http://www.ibtimes.com/wall-street-journal-closes-allthingsd-tech-news-section-replaced-wsjd-founders-launch-recode-1530428	Jan 08 15:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.com \| Wall Street Journal Closes AllThingsD: Tech News Section Replaced By WSJD; Founders Launch Re/Code [ http://ur1.ca/gd9tj ]	Jan 08 15:08
Sosumi	does that kb need drivers?	Jan 08 15:08
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Sosumi	I actually went for the 7g because of it being ps/2 and not needing any drivers for working	Jan 08 15:09
Sosumi	and I kind of prefer mx black keys	Jan 08 15:09
Sosumi	because they feel just right	Jan 08 15:09
MinceR	the g710+ works without extra drivers, though it does enter some numbers when plugged in or unplugged without the driver	Jan 08 15:10
MinceR	i was too lazy to install the driver	Jan 08 15:10
Sosumi	is there any driver for linux at all? :)	Jan 08 15:10
MinceR	i prefer usb for hotplug and mx brown (or ml, or blue) so i can feel where the switching happens	Jan 08 15:10
MinceR	yes there is	Jan 08 15:11
Sosumi	I just prefer ps/2 because of the cpu overhead of usb	Jan 08 15:11
Sosumi	and ps/2 is hot plug in some boards	Jan 08 15:12
MinceR	most of my computers don't even have ps/2 ports	Jan 08 15:12
Sosumi	lol	Jan 08 15:13
MinceR	also, what boards support ps/2 hotplug?	Jan 08 15:13
MinceR	and won't it still damage the keyboard controller?	Jan 08 15:13
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 08 15:13
Sosumi	but at least I remember the asus p4c800 deluxe	Jan 08 15:14
Sosumi	allowing that on both mouse and kb port	Jan 08 15:15
Sosumi	haven't tested it on my asus rampage 4 e	Jan 08 15:15
Sosumi	and those laptops from the past	Jan 08 15:17
Sosumi	also allowed hot plugging of ps/2 stuff	Jan 08 15:18
Sosumi	even my compaq armada did that	Jan 08 15:18
MinceR	and how do you know that the asus p4c800 supports ps/2 hotplug?	Jan 08 15:18
Sosumi	I had one	Jan 08 15:18
Sosumi	and remember hot plugging both mouse and kb once	Jan 08 15:18
MinceR	did it say it supported it or did it just not fry itself when you did it?	Jan 08 15:18
Sosumi	it said hot plugging in the same way they say hot plugging for USB	Jan 08 15:19
Sosumi	not a single word	Jan 08 15:19
Sosumi	I just did it	Jan 08 15:19
MinceR	so you just got lucky	Jan 08 15:19
MinceR	usb officially supports hotplugging	Jan 08 15:19
Sosumi	I see that now	Jan 08 15:21
Sosumi	it comes up with the quality of the controler	Jan 08 15:21
Sosumi	but it should be avoided	Jan 08 15:21
Sosumi	only did it once on that mobo when I received both new kb and mice	Jan 08 15:24
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 15:24
Sosumi	as for the laptop, I did it with a mouse, countless of times and I've seen ppl also doing it tons of times	Jan 08 15:26
Sosumi	and I've never heard anyone complaining	Jan 08 15:26
iophk	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2429236,00.asp	Jan 08 15:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcmag.com \| Microsoft Xbox #Fail \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/gd9wz ]	Jan 08 15:26
MinceR	m$ fails at making hardware, what a surprise	Jan 08 15:27
iophk	maybe the fires are less frequent though	Jan 08 15:27
Sosumi	ppl have got to be dumb to buy consoles	Jan 08 15:28
Sosumi	cheap and crippled drm boxes	Jan 08 15:28
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 15:28
Sosumi	and even the ps3 broke	Jan 08 15:28
MinceR	well, except for some independent "consoles"	Jan 08 15:28
iophk	ps3 breaking was intentional	Jan 08 15:28
MinceR	like the pandora	Jan 08 15:28
Sosumi	with the first casualty being the blu-ray drive	Jan 08 15:29
Sosumi	the second was the solder	Jan 08 15:29
Sosumi	needing ppl to go grab heat guns	Jan 08 15:29
Sosumi	and reflux the solder	Jan 08 15:29
iophk	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/playstation-3-other-os-saga-jailbreaking-not-crime	Jan 08 15:29
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eff.org \| PlayStation 3 "Other OS" Saga Shows: Jailbreaking Is Not a Crime \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/gd9xo ]	Jan 08 15:29
Sosumi	if you really want to game, get a decent computer and boot winblows just for that	Jan 08 15:30
MinceR	unless it runs on gnu/linux :>	Jan 08 15:30
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 08 15:30
Sosumi	and sony killed the other OS because ppl found ways to get to the RSX	Jan 08 15:31
iophk	http://www.itproportal.com/2010/04/29/sony-being-sued-over-other-os-removal/	Jan 08 15:31
Sosumi	which was basically a crippled 7800 GT	Jan 08 15:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itproportal.com \| Sony being sued over Other OS removal \| ITProPortal.com [ http://ur1.ca/gd9y0 ]	Jan 08 15:31
Sosumi	anyone remembers E3 2006?	Jan 08 15:32
iophk	E3?	Jan 08 15:32
Sosumi	not 2006, 2005	Jan 08 15:32
Sosumi	yeah E3	Jan 08 15:32
Sosumi	Electronic Entertainment Expo	Jan 08 15:34
Sosumi	CES of video games	Jan 08 15:34
Sosumi	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g1fr5vk72M	Jan 08 15:34
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Giant Enemy Crab! Massive Damage mix - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gd9yn ]	Jan 08 15:34
Sosumi	all I can remember was this	Jan 08 15:35
Sosumi	lawl	Jan 08 15:35
Sosumi	that game told me that in ancient japan there were giant crabs	Jan 08 15:35
Sosumi	and that you had to flip them in order to deliver MASSIVE DAMAGE	Jan 08 15:35
MinceR	i thought you had to do 50 or more points to deliver massive damage :>	Jan 08 15:36
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 08 15:36
MinceR	(D&D reference)	Jan 08 15:36
Sosumi	ask the dev or someone with the game	Jan 08 15:36
Sosumi	not really a fan of D&D	Jan 08 15:36
Sosumi	actually I've never bothered to check anything about D&D	Jan 08 15:37
iophk	http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/08/china-smoking-idINL3N0KI2SW20140108	Jan 08 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	in.reuters.com \| China aims to ban smoking in public places by end of the year \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gd9z7 ]	Jan 08 15:37
Sosumi	that is ok, just because someone likes to be a human chimney doesn't mean that I like or want to take with his smoke	Jan 08 15:38
Sosumi	and end up with my clothes smelling funny	Jan 08 15:39
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 15:39
MinceR	and they like to choose the highest traffic areas too	Jan 08 15:39
Sosumi	in here, if ppl want to smoke, they either do it outside or go to special room	Jan 08 15:40
MinceR	same here, but when outside, they still like to blow it onto other people	Jan 08 15:41
MinceR	as if not having a roof above you made it ok	Jan 08 15:41
iophk	usually they choose to stand upwind when they can	Jan 08 15:41
iophk	so that the smoke blows over other people	Jan 08 15:41
Sosumi	I've seen that	Jan 08 15:41
Sosumi	but never happened to me	Jan 08 15:41
Sosumi	could you consider someone blowing toxic smoke on your face being considered an aggression?	Jan 08 15:42
MinceR	i suppose so	Jan 08 15:42
MinceR	also, hungarians are probably more barbaric than western europeans	Jan 08 15:42
Sosumi	how so?	Jan 08 15:43
MinceR	for example, they've decided on their own to go back to dictatorship	Jan 08 15:45
Sosumi	ho lol	Jan 08 15:45
MinceR	and they didn't seem to mind when the nazis destroyed the remaining freedom of speech and rule of law	Jan 08 15:45
MinceR	also, i'd like to think that the people i'd meet on the street on other countries are more civilized	Jan 08 15:45
Sosumi	it's pretty much around the same everywhere	Jan 08 15:47
iophk	http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-incorporates-free-red-hat-clone-centos-7000024907/	Jan 08 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat incorporates 'free' Red Hat clone CentOS \| ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gda17 ]	Jan 08 15:48
Sosumi	don't think that the ppl you meet around the street are all fine	Jan 08 15:48
Sosumi	you usually encounter the typical jerk or group of jerks when you least expect	Jan 08 15:49
Sosumi	it	Jan 08 15:49
abeNd-org	all humans are jerks	Jan 08 15:50
abeNd-org	they are only nice when it suits them to forward their own adjenda	Jan 08 15:50
Sosumi	abeNd-org, your lack of faith in humanity is disturbing	Jan 08 15:51
Sosumi	http://pipocaenanquim.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/El-Emperador-Palpatine-y-Darth-Vader.jpg	Jan 08 15:52
Sosumi	I'm nice to everyone, but ofc, if I want keep or have a closer relationship with someone	Jan 08 15:54
Sosumi	well ofc that person is going to get special attention	Jan 08 15:54
Sosumi	but that doesn't mean harm or injury to that person	Jan 08 15:55
Sosumi	and in the relationship or say cooperation, bears fruits	Jan 08 15:55
Sosumi	seeing it too negatively and your social life will end up being a trainwreck	Jan 08 15:58
iophk	http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9244898/4_reasons_companies_say_yes_to_open_source	Jan 08 16:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerworld.com \| 4 reasons companies say yes to open source - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gda3n ]	Jan 08 16:03
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Sosumi	I can tell the top reason	Jan 08 16:13
Sosumi	no more dumb fees when moving from xp	Jan 08 16:13
iophk	or software that actually works ...	Jan 08 16:13
MinceR	also, no more idiotic GUIs like ribbon and metro	Jan 08 16:13
Sosumi	that is under dumb fees	Jan 08 16:13
MinceR	that require retraining everyone	Jan 08 16:14
Sosumi	dumb fees	Jan 08 16:14
MinceR	(and permanently decrease productivity regardless of training)	Jan 08 16:14
iophk	MinceR: that is probably the goal.	Jan 08 16:14
Sosumi	but the problem is that everything moved to ribbon	Jan 08 16:14
iophk	a decrease in productivity means an increase in stress and panic	Jan 08 16:15
MinceR	not everything	Jan 08 16:15
Sosumi	autocad, matlab to name a few	Jan 08 16:15
MinceR	afaict no free software moved to ribbon	Jan 08 16:15
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 08 16:15
Sosumi	but having matlab migrate to ribbon was plain dumb	Jan 08 16:16
iophk	no mention of LibreOffice or OpenOffice.org: http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/moving-office-365-dig-deep-your-options-first-233663	Jan 08 16:16
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Moving to Office 365? Dig deep into your options first \| Microsoft Windows - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gda6h ]	Jan 08 16:16
Sosumi	old menu model worked a lot better	Jan 08 16:16
MinceR	perhaps it's time to move to octave? :>	Jan 08 16:16
Sosumi	way too much backcatalog in order to migrate	Jan 08 16:17
Sosumi	and I'm still migrating from osx	Jan 08 16:17
Sosumi	for 1 year and 2 months now	Jan 08 16:18
Sosumi	also teachers and everyone uses matlab	Jan 08 16:19
Sosumi	and they teach matlab at university	Jan 08 16:19
Sosumi	so even dropping matlab is impossible at moment	Jan 08 16:19
Sosumi	it is just like skype,	Jan 08 16:19
Sosumi	I have an account because I'm forced to	Jan 08 16:19
Sosumi	not because I want to	Jan 08 16:20
MinceR	i know what it's like	Jan 08 16:20
MinceR	i had a m$n messenger account because i was forced to	Jan 08 16:20
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/markhughes/status/420888350342787072	Jan 08 16:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@markhughes: .@schestowitz only spying is necessary to destroy #democracy, no actual misuse of information need take place. Free thought gets destroyed.	Jan 08 16:36
schestowitz	self censorship	Jan 08 16:36
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iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/08/why-sonys-ps4-is-crushing-microsofts-xbox-one-in-sales-so-far/	Jan 08 17:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Why Sony's PS4 Is Crushing Microsoft's Xbox One In Sales So Far - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gdad5 ]	Jan 08 17:03
Sosumi	more powerful hardware and better games	Jan 08 17:08
Sosumi	the ps vita complement is also nice	Jan 08 17:08
Sosumi	what does M$ have?	Jan 08 17:09
Sosumi	bad rep from the past gen, weaker HW and no games	Jan 08 17:09
Sosumi	while costing 100€ +	Jan 08 17:09
iophk	and an always-on camera and mic	Jan 08 17:09
iophk	connected to the net	Jan 08 17:09
Sosumi	for the snoopnect camera	Jan 08 17:09
Sosumi	almost forgot	Jan 08 17:10
Sosumi	and replaceable HDD	Jan 08 17:11
Sosumi	just like the ps3	Jan 08 17:11
Sosumi	no 99€ for just 20 GB	Jan 08 17:11
Sosumi	like it was with xbox 2	Jan 08 17:12
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/19/xbox_recall_nofix/	Jan 08 17:14
iophk	http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/19/xbox-360-power-supply-pinpointed-as-cause-of-house-fire/	Jan 08 17:14
iophk	consistency across models	Jan 08 17:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| After cable recall, Xbox's still frying • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gdai6 ]	Jan 08 17:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.engadget.com \| Xbox 360 power supply pinpointed as cause of house fire [ http://ur1.ca/gdai8 ]	Jan 08 17:14
Sosumi	don't worry	Jan 08 17:16
Sosumi	there are plenty of disc read error of death for the ps2	Jan 08 17:16
Sosumi	and sony not acknowledging the issue	Jan 08 17:16
iophk	http://hothardware.com/News/Why-Youre-Better-Off-Exchanging-a-Faulty-Xbox-One-Console-InStore/	Jan 08 17:17
Sosumi	I actually have an original xbox	Jan 08 17:17
TechrightsBot-tr	hothardware.com \| Why You're Better Off Exchanging a Faulty Xbox One Console In-Store - HotHardware [ http://ur1.ca/gdakd ]	Jan 08 17:17
Sosumi	not launch ofc	Jan 08 17:17
Sosumi	but only bought it for shemue	Jan 08 17:17
Sosumi	and ninja gaiden	Jan 08 17:17
Sosumi	although I think that I should have gotten a dreamcast instead	Jan 08 17:18
Sosumi	when they were on fire sale for 90€	Jan 08 17:18
Sosumi	after sega canceled them	Jan 08 17:18
Sosumi	but 2000 and before consoles were a lot more reliable	Jan 08 17:21
Sosumi	despite sony's and nintendo's DRE problems	Jan 08 17:22
Sosumi	there were never major issues with consoles bricking	Jan 08 17:22
Sosumi	or requiring constant servicing	Jan 08 17:22
Sosumi	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/01/07/dell-wasnt-joking-about-that-28-inch-sub-1000-4k-monitor-its-only-699/	Jan 08 17:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699 - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gdaot ]	Jan 08 17:24
Sosumi	now we need ips vs igzo comparisons	Jan 08 17:26
Sosumi	specially on things like lag, color reproduction, refreshing (applies to this new batch of 4k displays) and ghosting	Jan 08 17:29
Sosumi	but I still wish they sold crt monitors	Jan 08 17:29
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iophk	"drivers would be able to access email, apps and music"	Jan 08 18:57
iophk	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/ces/10553554/Google-wants-an-Android-in-every-Audi-and-Honda.html	Jan 08 18:57
iophk	what could possibly go wrong?	Jan 08 18:57
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Google wants an Android in every Audi and Honda - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gdc2j ]	Jan 08 18:57
abeNd-org	Sosumi: I can only work with my own personal experiences with people, they are what make my opinion of humanity negative	Jan 08 19:10
iophk	http://www.universityherald.com/articles/6664/20140107/uva-student-arrested-and-jailed-for-water-mistaken-for-beer-plans-civil-lawsuit-against-state.htm	Jan 08 19:21
TechrightsBot-tr	www.universityherald.com \| UVa Student Arrested and Jailed For Water Mistaken for Beer Plans Civil Lawsuit Against State : News : University Herald [ http://ur1.ca/gdc9w ]	Jan 08 19:21
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iophk	http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2014/0107/Burglars-who-embarrassed-FBI-in-unsolved-document-heist-come-forward-video	Jan 08 20:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.csmonitor.com \| Burglars who embarrassed FBI in unsolved document heist come forward (+video) - CSMonitor.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdckx ]	Jan 08 20:12
iophk	"The leaked papers included, too, the first references to COINTELPRO"	Jan 08 20:12
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Sosumi	abeNd-org, that is also my personal based on my dealings with ppl	Jan 08 20:50
Sosumi	*opinion	Jan 08 20:50
DaemonFC	OMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:19
DaemonFC	I would think that fundamentalist Christians would approve of the choice that educated professionals typically make to have few children.	Jan 08 21:19
DaemonFC	Eventually, the world will be covered with religious fundamentalists that have 20 children and go on welfare (they call it "draining the beast"), society will collapse because there will no longer be enough educated liberals paying taxes to cover all of this, and the fundies can go back to throwing poo at each other.	Jan 08 21:19
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:49
DaemonFC	Only Walmart gives you the satisfaction of knowing that hundreds of Bangladeshi factory workers died in a fire making your Duck Dynasty crap so that you can wear it on COPS when the police are interviewing you about beating your wife.	Jan 08 21:49
Sosumi	Duffy Duck Dynasty?	Jan 08 21:51
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2MDZ00PCVJ8GL	Jan 08 21:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Thanks to freedom of religion, the Satanic Temple has designed a statue to be placed on the Oklahoma capital grounds. [ http://ur1.ca/gdd21 ]	Jan 08 21:55
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:55
DaemonFC	http://www.alternet.org/satan-worshippers-want-place-statue-oklahoma-capitol	Jan 08 21:55
DaemonFC	The statue will even be functional. It's going to be a chair, so that you can sit in the dark lord's lap.	Jan 08 21:55
DaemonFC	Priceless....	Jan 08 21:55
TechrightsBot-tr	www.alternet.org \| Satan-Worshippers Want to Place Devil Statue In Oklahoma Capitol \| Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gdd23 ]	Jan 08 21:56
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:56
DaemonFC	I can't wait until parents have to tell their children to quit sitting on Baphomet's lap because he isn't bringing them their Christmas presents.	Jan 08 21:56
MinceR	nice	Jan 08 21:57
MinceR	the bible-humpers had it coming	Jan 08 21:57
DaemonFC	Tomcat™ says:	Jan 08 22:02
DaemonFC	Right. A 24 year-old smoker gets a Silver Plan with no deductible for $56.	Jan 08 22:02
DaemonFC	Totally believable. eyes looking like Marty Feldman	Jan 08 22:02
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 22:02
DaemonFC	I didn't believe it myself until I clicked "Buy policy".	Jan 08 22:02
DaemonFC	His affordability credit is $236 a month. They give you a choice between putting it on your tax return or applying it to your premium each month. I don't know why you'd put it on your tax return. For most people, it would just give predatory bill collectors or child support something else to take.	Jan 08 22:02
Sosumi	I want to sit in there	Jan 08 22:03
Sosumi	with this song on the background	Jan 08 22:03
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNKttMFgaf0	Jan 08 22:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Black Sabbath N.I.B lyrics in description - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdd3b ]	Jan 08 22:03
Sosumi	legendary	Jan 08 22:03
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 22:39
DaemonFC	By total wealth, the United States is the richest country in the world, unless you take out a few thousand millionaires and billionaires and leave the other 350 million.	Jan 08 22:39
DaemonFC	Most people that aren't Bill Gates don't benefit from the fact that Bill Gates lives here.	Jan 08 22:39
MinceR	in fact, they suffer from it	Jan 08 22:40
DaemonFC	"Any woman who marries for love gets exactly what she deserves, a shitty wring and four bratty kids." -Joan Rivers	Jan 08 23:18
DaemonFC	*ring	Jan 08 23:18
MinceR	marriage is overrated	Jan 08 23:20
Sosumi	http://bos.sagepub.com/content/70/1/32.full	Jan 08 23:28
TechrightsBot-tr	bos.sagepub.com \| Stopping killer robots [ http://ur1.ca/gdde8 ]	Jan 08 23:28
Sosumi	algos determining who lives and who dies	Jan 08 23:29
Sosumi	also, marriage, never fall for that	Jan 08 23:29
Sosumi	say it like I do	Jan 08 23:29
MinceR	i'd like to have an army of killbots	Jan 08 23:30
MinceR	much more trustworthy than humans	Jan 08 23:30
Sosumi	marriage isn't a proof of afection towards the other partner	Jan 08 23:30
MinceR	yeah, it just makes breaking up more costly	Jan 08 23:31
Sosumi	and actually, violence only happens after marriage	Jan 08 23:31
MinceR	and lets the state meddle with your partnership	Jan 08 23:31
Sosumi	because now, specially if you are women, you'll be entrapped, sometimes in shame to an abusive dude	Jan 08 23:32
Sosumi	and a divorce costs 250€ and it's a lot of paperwork	Jan 08 23:32
Sosumi	and division of goods acquired after marriage and so on	Jan 08 23:33
Sosumi	my uncle learn that lesson hard	Jan 08 23:33
Sosumi	after his now ex-wife decided to cheat on him	Jan 08 23:34
Sosumi	and ended up selling his house and give her half the cash	Jan 08 23:34
Sosumi	even through he paid for everything	Jan 08 23:34
Sosumi	so it works on both ways	Jan 08 23:34
Sosumi	*learned	Jan 08 23:35
Sosumi	"marriage isn't proof of anything" - Sosumi	Jan 08 23:35
Sosumi	quote is licensed under GPL version 3	Jan 08 23:36
Sosumi	http://www.blacklistednews.com/EU_Draws_Up_Plans_to_Send_Troops_to_Central_Africa/31848/0/38/38/Y/M.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter	Jan 08 23:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.blacklistednews.com \| EU Draws Up Plans to Send Troops to Central Africa [ http://ur1.ca/gddey ]	Jan 08 23:37
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Sosumi	and then José Ed. dos Santos from Angola says portugal wants to re-colonize africa	Jan 08 23:38
Sosumi	it isn't "us", it is the same powers that made us lose the colonies in the first place, so they could grab them	Jan 08 23:39
Sosumi	and supply weapons to all sides in order to artificially increase the prices of resources	Jan 08 23:40
Sosumi	namely diamonds	Jan 08 23:40
Sosumi	rare earths and so on could also have been profitable	Jan 08 23:41
Sosumi	instead of leaving china with that market monopolized	Jan 08 23:41
Sosumi	http://landdestroyer.blogspot.pt/2014/01/the-plundering-of-south-sudan.html	Jan 08 23:42
TechrightsBot-tr	landdestroyer.blogspot.pt \| Land Destroyer: The Plundering of South Sudan [ http://ur1.ca/gddfd ]	Jan 08 23:42
Sosumi	remember when Susie Rice and Hitlery Clinton touted the sudan division as a good example	Jan 08 23:42
Sosumi	well, that is the result	Jan 08 23:43
Sosumi	and it isn't certainly good for zee ppl, right?	Jan 08 23:43
MinceR	dunno	Jan 08 23:43
MinceR	africa seems pretty fucked up	Jan 08 23:43
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 23:49
DaemonFC	The state takes the kids away, gives them to the woman, may or may not let you see them, dictates the terms under which you are allowed to see them, and siphons off half your paycheck so that the woman can spend it any way she wants.	Jan 08 23:49
DaemonFC	I used to work with a guy that said that his ex-wife was letting the kids wear clothes with holes in them while she was spending his child support money on a brand new vehicle for herself. She also had an iPhone. Brand new clothes for herself...	Jan 08 23:49
MinceR	an inspiration for birth control	Jan 08 23:50
Sosumi	no, an inspiration to remove the state from the parent-child relationship	Jan 08 23:51
Sosumi	because if the kids weren't taken in the first place...	Jan 08 23:52
Sosumi	you can guess the rest	Jan 08 23:52
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 23:52
MinceR	but even not taking the kids away can lead to a bad situation	Jan 08 23:52
Sosumi	like?	Jan 08 23:53
Sosumi	mistreatment?	Jan 08 23:53
MinceR	yes, if the father was a bad parent	Jan 08 23:53
Sosumi	that has always happened, but then the child would show up with bruises or emotionally disturbed	Jan 08 23:54
Sosumi	but on those extreme cases, a teacher could always intervene	Jan 08 23:54
MinceR	if i had to count on my average teacher for such things, i would have been in hell	Jan 08 23:55
MinceR	most of them were mentally ill people who should have never been allowed near children	Jan 08 23:55
Sosumi	a medic? in case the abusive parent took his child to a clinic	Jan 08 23:55
MinceR	then again, what can you expect in a country where teaching is one of the things nobody is willing to pay for	Jan 08 23:56
Sosumi	I guess I had a golden childhood then :)	Jan 08 23:56
MinceR	our teachers get paid nothing and there's no quality control in teaching	Jan 08 23:57
Sosumi	lots of fun and laughs during kindergarden to the secondary	Jan 08 23:57
MinceR	so the worst of the worst tend to take most of the slots	Jan 08 23:57
MinceR	and the children aren't any better either	Jan 08 23:57
MinceR	nasty little shits	Jan 08 23:58
Sosumi	after that everyone I knew moved, I moved and lost most of my friends and really didn't seem to make many at university either	Jan 08 23:58
Sosumi	:)	Jan 08 23:58
MinceR	at least at college and university i met mostly adult people	Jan 08 23:59
Sosumi	"mostly"	Jan 08 23:59
Sosumi	I still see ppl expelled from classes for bad behavior	Jan 08 23:59
MinceR	gn	Jan 09 00:06
Sosumi	going to bad too	Jan 09 00:07
Sosumi	"early to bed, early to rise, makes the body good and the senses sharp" - Sosumi	Jan 09 00:08
Sosumi	:)	Jan 09 00:08
Sosumi	GN	Jan 09 00:08
MinceR	Early to rise and early to bed makes a male healthy and wealthy and dead.	Jan 09 00:08
MinceR	-- James Thurber	Jan 09 00:09
Sosumi	mine's kewler	Jan 09 00:09
MinceR	mine's truer	Jan 09 00:09
Sosumi	:)	Jan 09 00:10
DaemonFC	Sosumi, Everything you do gives the state another opportunity to control you.	Jan 09 00:18
DaemonFC	Having kids is a big mistake because the state is never going to stop beating you over the head for that.	Jan 09 00:18
Snowleaksange	http://www.quora.com/Engineering-in-Silicon-Valley/Does-the-NSA-have-better-engineers-than-Facebook-or-Google	Jan 09 00:29
TechrightsBot-tr	www.quora.com \| Engineering in Silicon Valley: Does the NSA have better engineers than Facebook or Google? - Quora [ http://ur1.ca/gddm6 ]	Jan 09 00:29
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DaemonFC	Roger says:	Jan 09 01:10
DaemonFC	Do you have a problem with the Satanic Temple?	Jan 09 01:10
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 01:10
DaemonFC	Actually, I think it's ridiculous for any religion to be allowed into the public sector. No good has ever come of it and none ever will.	Jan 09 01:10
DaemonFC	That being said, now that they've opened the floodgates, I think Oklahoma is going to get what it deserves. Enjoy your Satanic monument.	Jan 09 01:10
DaemonFC	I think it's funny.....as hell.	Jan 09 01:10
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 01:42
DaemonFC	The sad part is that the First Amendment has survived Neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan, and the Westboro Baptist Church, but it might not survive Chris Dodd and the MPAA.	Jan 09 01:42
DaemonFC	I don't want to give up my rights to silence the Nazis, and I don't want to give up my rights to enable the MPAA to make more money.	Jan 09 01:43
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 01:58
DaemonFC	If the choice is pay the hospital or pay the mortgage, pay the mortgage.	Jan 09 01:58
DaemonFC	If the choice is pay the hospital, or buy food, buy food.	Jan 09 01:58
DaemonFC	If the choice is to pay the hospital, or to replace a pair of worn out shoes, buy new shoes.	Jan 09 01:58
DaemonFC	If the choice is to pay the hospital, or fix your car, fix your car.	Jan 09 01:58
DaemonFC	Paying unsecured medical bills that have already done their damage to your credit report can cause more serious problems in other areas of your budget if you're on a tight income.	Jan 09 01:58
DaemonFC	And, frankly, it's not worth living on hardtack and gruel so that these rapacious pigs can give themselves million dollar bonuses at the end of the year.	Jan 09 01:58
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 02:21
DaemonFC	I have a sharpie marker that takes care of all those "in god we trust"s.	Jan 09 02:21
DaemonFC	You can do the same thing! It's harder with coins unless you have the time and patience to file them off. I don't.	Jan 09 02:21
DaemonFC	Why shouldn't the money say "in god we trust"? It's so delightfully perverse. The money is an instrument that the rich and the banksters use to subjugate and enslave workers. At the same time, they're saying "trust God!". Do you think that this amuses them? I've always taken "In God We Trust" to be a cruel irony that really means "Work sucks, but at least someday you'll die! Keep working!".	Jan 09 02:21
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 02:23
DaemonFC	You could also take a pen and write in "^BULL****!".	Jan 09 02:23
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 02:42
DaemonFC	Crossover gave up and bundled their own X.org Server because Mac OS users are dumber than a second coat of paint and it's impossible to expect any of them to be able to install one themselves.	Jan 09 02:42
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 03:19
DaemonFC	Mac OS "Classic" was a different operating system, and of course it crashed more. It was even worse than Windows 98.	Jan 09 03:19
DaemonFC	My high school had Macs, and they were garbage. When you were editing an office document, you had two choices, let autosave run and freeze up the Mac at random times, or leave autosave off and lose the entire document when the Mac crashed. It was very frustrating. I ended up being given a detention one day because the Mac crashed and I lost a document, and I shouted "**ing pile of **!" before I could stop myself.	Jan 09 03:19
DaemonFC	You probably would too if you lost an entire essay because of Apple's lousy software.	Jan 09 03:19
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msb__	DaemonFC: Hi! Still there?	Jan 09 05:29
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 09 05:31
msb__	DaemonFC: You probably know this by now, but with a crummy editor like you described, you can just do a save-as foo23.doc.	Jan 09 05:32
msb__	Then 5 minutes later, when you've written a big paragraph, save-as foo24.doc, etc.	Jan 09 05:32
msb__	Then you never lose anything.	Jan 09 05:32
msb__	Just delete all but the last few periodically.	Jan 09 05:33
msb__	I used to do that all the time in PC-DOS.	Jan 09 05:34
msb__	Anyhow, hope you're not inside the polar vortex!	Jan 09 05:35
DaemonFC	I am	Jan 09 05:36
msb__	Yiii!	Jan 09 05:36
msb__	Do you have enough furniture to burn?	Jan 09 05:36
msb__	There's always the old porno mags, but the minerals in the shiny ones make them hard to light.	Jan 09 05:38
DaemonFC	I'd prefer to save the porn and burn the meth addicts that reside in this backwards redneck town.	Jan 09 05:58
DaemonFC	It's getting cold again! Throw another meth addict on the fire!	Jan 09 05:58
DaemonFC	I don't know how well they burn, but we could try a few and find out. If they don't go up right away, we can get some kerosene.	Jan 09 05:58
msb__	Hope there aren't any witches living in your area...	Jan 09 06:09
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DaemonFC	msb__, The polar vortex was kind of fun.	Jan 09 06:17
DaemonFC	I got snowed in and nobody bothered me for three days.	Jan 09 06:17
msb__	Great! As long as you had heat and food.	Jan 09 06:18
msb__	...and Linux.	Jan 09 06:19
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Sosumi	DaemonFC, this isn't the US	Jan 09 06:25
Sosumi	in here there is no meddling in the parent-child relationship	Jan 09 06:26
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 06:26
DaemonFC	I know how to speed up the cow fart study (if there actually is one). You start feeding the cows Fiber One bars. In about 3-4 hours, you'll have all the data you need.	Jan 09 06:26
Sosumi	and it is not what the state wants or some gov worker,	Jan 09 06:27
Sosumi	it is what the parent thinks it is best	Jan 09 06:27
DaemonFC	Oh. When people get divorced here, the default is that the woman gets the kids, and the man gets a judge to tell them how much to pay the woman in alimony and child support.	Jan 09 06:29
DaemonFC	Some states don't have alimony at all. Other states have lifetime alimony.	Jan 09 06:29
DaemonFC	Florida has lifetime alimony until the woman gets remarried.	Jan 09 06:29
DaemonFC	So, a lot of women divorce and then live with their new boyfriend so the check from the ex-husband doesn't stop.	Jan 09 06:30
DaemonFC	Ever.	Jan 09 06:30
Sosumi	we don't have that	Jan 09 06:30
DaemonFC	More than a few men have figured out that it's cheaper to hire a hitman than to keep paying their ex wife.	Jan 09 06:30
Sosumi	the only way for the child to receive what we call "food pension", is for them to be minors or still be studying after reaching adulthood at the age of 18	Jan 09 06:31
Sosumi	that is usually paid by the parent without custody of the child	Jan 09 06:33
Sosumi	and yes, usually the women takes the kids	Jan 09 06:33
DaemonFC	Child support continues in some states until 21 if they're still in school.	Jan 09 06:33
Sosumi	but not always	Jan 09 06:33
DaemonFC	Either because they got held back a year in high school or because they're in college.	Jan 09 06:33
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 09 06:34
Sosumi	for example I'm still studying and I qualify for that pension	Jan 09 06:34
Sosumi	but that doesn't mean I get one, since my "father" works for himself	Jan 09 06:35
Sosumi	and he can just declare he hadn't a signle profit	Jan 09 06:35
Sosumi	so he can claim that he can't pay me the 100€ a month that was accorded under a judge and both our lawyers	Jan 09 06:36
Sosumi	my uncle's ex-wife, left her then 4 years old daughter with my uncle	Jan 09 06:36
Sosumi	and doesn't pay her a single cent, since she can do the same	Jan 09 06:37
Sosumi	there isn't really any enforcement of it as I can tell	Jan 09 06:40
Sosumi	and it is more based on the goodwill of the parent than anything else	Jan 09 06:41
Sosumi	http://rt.com/usa/cops-kill-mentally-ill-teen-283/	Jan 09 06:54
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gdfkn ]	Jan 09 06:54
Sosumi	Cops kill mentally ill teen after parents call police to help him	Jan 09 06:54
Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-08/how-us-employs-overseas-sweatshops-produce-government-uniforms	Jan 09 06:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zerohedge.com \| How The U.S. Employs Overseas Sweatshops To Produce Government Uniforms \| Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gdfkz ]	Jan 09 06:56
Sosumi	gogo team USA	Jan 09 07:01
MinceR	"I have worked at both the NSA and Microsoft. On average, the engineers at the NSA are not as good." -- it's a miracle that nsa gets anything done, then	Jan 09 07:04
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MinceR	https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1545860_10151943795286840_1572126254_n.jpg	Jan 09 07:35
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 09 09:13
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schestowitz	MinceR: not always https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1545860_10151943795286840_1572126254_n.jpg	Jan 09 09:44
schestowitz	generalisation	Jan 09 09:44
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 09:48
DaemonFC	Apple's are exceptionally difficult to upgrade, especially the Mac Mini. I saw a how to guide. Opening the case to upgrade the RAM or swap out the hard disk involves a paint scraper.	Jan 09 09:48
DaemonFC	Apple did that on purpose. They want to make you scared to open it up because there's a good chance that you'll scratch the **** out of your "precious". Now, if you take it to an Apple store, they'll be happy to have a "Genius" open it up and upgrade the RAM for you. Better hit the ATM on the way there. A $50 RAM upgrade is going to cost over $200 by the time they get done with you.	Jan 09 09:48
DaemonFC	Oddly enough, the "Genius" has a special tool that looks just like a paint scraper, only with a plastic edge. :)	Jan 09 09:48
MinceR	they're easy, actually: 1. throw that crap out 2. buy a real computer	Jan 09 09:57
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 10:04
DaemonFC	We had a terrible recession, an unemployment catastrophe, a debt crisis, and the worst poverty in a generation in 2008.	Jan 09 10:04
DaemonFC	What else happened around the same time?	Jan 09 10:04
DaemonFC	Hint:	Jan 09 10:04
DaemonFC	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/US_high-income_effective_tax_rates.png	Jan 09 10:04
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Effective_Corporate_Tax_Rate_1947-2011_v2.jpg	Jan 09 10:04
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| File:US Effective Corporate Tax Rate 1947-2011 v2.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gdhks ]	Jan 09 10:04
schestowitz	http://www.tuaw.com/2014/01/07/the-nsa-the-iphone-and-a-whole-lot-of-paranoia/	Jan 09 10:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuaw.com \| The NSA, the iPhone and a whole lot of paranoia \| TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog [ http://ur1.ca/gdhkx ]	Jan 09 10:04
schestowitz	Apple idiots	Jan 09 10:04
Sosumi	mac minis are crippled by heat	Jan 09 10:16
Sosumi	why would you buy one is beyond me	Jan 09 10:16
Sosumi	steam box is the way to go on my opinion	Jan 09 10:17
Sosumi	as at least some of the designs I've seen just take of the shelf parts that can be easily swapped	Jan 09 10:17
Sosumi	but on the mac mini there's no glued components or stuff that can be scratched by swapping ram or the hdd	Jan 09 10:18
Sosumi	although swapping the HDDs on that thing is a total pain in the butt	Jan 09 10:19
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Sosumi	but then again my 1st point, for "serious" work, mac minis are crippled by heat	Jan 09 10:19
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DaemonFC	http://billmoyers.com/2014/01/08/marco-rubios-anti-poverty-agenda-would-create-two-americas/	Jan 09 10:24
DaemonFC	Marco Rubio and other Teathuglicans are concern trolling the topic of poverty. They're so concerned about helping the poor, they want to cut the minimum wage, so that entry level jobs can pay as little as they want.	Jan 09 10:24
DaemonFC	If everyone wants to work for 10 cents an hour, everyone can have a job.	Jan 09 10:24
DaemonFC	Why didn't anyone think of that before? :P	Jan 09 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr	billmoyers.com \| Marco Rubio's "Anti-Poverty" Agenda Would Create Two Americas \| The Poverty Line, What Matters Today \| BillMoyers.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdhvr ]	Jan 09 10:24
Sosumi	http://rense.com/1.imagesH/gorechurch.jpg	Jan 09 10:38
Sosumi	"Church of Climatology"	Jan 09 10:38
Sosumi	had to laugh, because it is true	Jan 09 10:39
iophk	http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/microsoft-and-your-tax-returns/article5515493.ece	Jan 09 10:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.thehindubusinessline.com \| Microsoft and your tax returns \| Business Line [ http://ur1.ca/gdhys ]	Jan 09 10:40
DaemonFC	http://imageshack.us/a/img208/7804/buy5.png	Jan 09 10:45
DaemonFC	http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5997/0riq.png	Jan 09 10:46
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DaemonFC	That's interesting....	Jan 09 11:20
DaemonFC	I was playing around with my car insurance and noticed that my premium is the same with $50,000 per person $100,000 per accident Bodily Injury and $25,000 Property Damage as is is with $50,000/$100,000 with $50,000 of property damage.	Jan 09 11:21
DaemonFC	Why would the quote be the same with $25,000 more property damage coverage?	Jan 09 11:21
*DaemonFC decided to take it.		Jan 09 11:25
DaemonFC	Why not? It's free. I could hit someone's Jaguar.	Jan 09 11:26
Sosumi	yes, http://static.neatorama.com/images/2007-07/ashera-cat.jpg	Jan 09 11:29
MinceR	:3	Jan 09 11:38
DaemonFC	https://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/4258692052.html	Jan 09 11:41
TechrightsBot-tr	fortwayne.craigslist.org \| 15.4"Mac G4 PowerBook [ http://ur1.ca/gdihr ]	Jan 09 11:41
MinceR	WeaknessBook	Jan 09 11:42
DaemonFC	$170 is a bit steep.	Jan 09 11:42
DaemonFC	You can get a refurbished Chromebook with the dual Exynos 1.7 Ghz processor and 2 GB of RAM for about that much.	Jan 09 11:43
MinceR	indeed	Jan 09 11:45
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Sosumi	get a powerbook 15	Jan 09 12:21
Sosumi	and you'll be risking a "bulging" battery	Jan 09 12:22
Sosumi	the only models that didn't suffer from that were 17 and 12 inches models	Jan 09 12:22
MinceR	bulging with Power!	Jan 09 12:22
Sosumi	and that is a very onld model	Jan 09 12:23
MinceR	all powerbooks are	Jan 09 12:23
Sosumi	not, I mean that model is is from 2000	Jan 09 12:23
Sosumi	plus the advertisement is wrong	Jan 09 12:23
Sosumi	snow leopard is 10.6	Jan 09 12:24
Sosumi	that model comes with tiger	Jan 09 12:24
Sosumi	which is 10.4	Jan 09 12:24
Sosumi	for the same you can get the early or late 2004 powerbook 17	Jan 09 12:25
Sosumi	with a single core g4 at 1.5 or 1.66	Jan 09 12:26
Sosumi	and no risks for exploding/bulging batts	Jan 09 12:26
Sosumi	but why bother, get the metallic lemote instead	Jan 09 12:27
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Sosumi	actually, I saw a couple of weeks ago an almost new core 2 quad toshiba laptop with dual gtx 9800m	Jan 09 12:33
Sosumi	on a computer dump place	Jan 09 12:33
Sosumi	and it wasn't in bad shape or anything	Jan 09 12:34
Sosumi	just some smudges on the screen	Jan 09 12:34
Sosumi	dunno if it still worked, but at least you'd get a "functional computer"	Jan 09 12:35
Sosumi	http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/09-01-2014/126573-european_union_portugal-0/	Jan 09 12:44
TechrightsBot-tr	english.pravda.ru \| European Union drives Portugal into Third World - English pravda.ru [ http://ur1.ca/gdiwh ]	Jan 09 12:44
Sosumi	"Take an evening walk in the center of Lisbon and see for yourself. And stop living with eyes wide shut."	Jan 09 12:44
Sosumi	you better not, unless you want to come with your pockets empty	Jan 09 12:46
Sosumi	illumination of some streets at night is also kind of an afterthought and sometimes, when the municipal workers are on strike,	Jan 09 12:46
Sosumi	there are piles of trash and funny smells everywhere	Jan 09 12:47
MinceR	http://imgur.com/gallery/Cjn6NfS "Ah, Mr. Bond," he said, stroking his hairless human slowly, "I've been expecting you."	Jan 09 12:50
TechrightsBot-tr	imgur.com \| My cat has one foggy eye. Add a bow tie and he instantly becomes a James Bond villain. - Imgur	Jan 09 12:50
Sosumi	lol	Jan 09 13:12
Sosumi	is that oddcat?	Jan 09 13:13
Sosumi	Oddjob's twin separated at birth	Jan 09 13:13
MinceR	dunno	Jan 09 13:15
Sosumi	Blofeld's them	Jan 09 13:15
MinceR	no, Oddjob is human	Jan 09 13:16
Sosumi	http://carlmaxim.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/blofeld1.jpg	Jan 09 13:16
Sosumi	so is Blofeld	Jan 09 13:16
MinceR	but the cat isn't	Jan 09 13:17
MinceR	so they can't be twins	Jan 09 13:17
Sosumi	who cares, you can do anything with genetics nowadays	Jan 09 13:17
MinceR	Blofeld could be the hairless human	Jan 09 13:17
Sosumi	talking of that, I've had a brilliance moment last month	Jan 09 13:19
Sosumi	by proposing the equivalent of vhdl for gene expression and a tissue design	Jan 09 13:20
Sosumi	and the answer was, "well, why don't you work on it?"	Jan 09 13:21
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 13:21
Sosumi	which means green light	Jan 09 13:22
Sosumi	and I've been pillaging the pirate bay for everything biotech, gene therapy and bioinformathics since then	Jan 09 13:24
Sosumi	I guess I'll have a quite busy summer vacation	Jan 09 13:24
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 13:29
DaemonFC	What about Mr. Bigglesworth and Random Task?	Jan 09 13:42
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 13:52
DaemonFC	If I get married, I want to get married there. I can't think of a better way to make right-wing fundamentalist Christians scream than to have a gay wedding in front of a statue of Satan in front of the state capital building in Oklahoma.	Jan 09 13:52
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 13:54
Sosumi	lol	Jan 09 14:15
Sosumi	http://www.trbimg.com/img-52ccd21e/turbine/la-me-ra-why-christians-should-embrace-the-sat-001/600	Jan 09 14:17
Sosumi	is that the statue's model?	Jan 09 14:18
Sosumi	if that so, that is just a statue of baphomet, not satan,	Jan 09 14:19
Sosumi	implying the as above so bellow,	Jan 09 14:19
Sosumi	the marriage between the male and female aspects	Jan 09 14:20
MinceR	is there a defined look for satan?	Jan 09 14:22
Sosumi	the moon (female) reflecting the sun (male) (see washington monument, obelisk = penis, water = pre-birth waters)	Jan 09 14:24
Sosumi	nop	Jan 09 14:24
Sosumi	but lucifer used to be represented as a candlelight	Jan 09 14:25
Sosumi	because after being expelled from heaven aka thunder would allow men to see in the dark	Jan 09 14:25
MinceR	i doubt that a candlelight would sufficiently enrage the bible-humpers	Jan 09 14:26
Sosumi	and as I've always said, those religions are nothing more than an ignorant description of natural events	Jan 09 14:26
DaemonFC	It's looking as if MATE is going to thrive after all.	Jan 09 14:26
Sosumi	well, a big candle light	Jan 09 14:26
Sosumi	lite with bibles	Jan 09 14:26
DaemonFC	I was skeptical at first.	Jan 09 14:26
MinceR	now we're getting somewhere	Jan 09 14:26
MinceR	still, it would cause way too much pollution	Jan 09 14:26
MinceR	unless it was an illusory flame of some sort	Jan 09 14:27
DaemonFC	There was also a project to fork GNOME 1. It immediately stalled out. I don't remember what they called it.	Jan 09 14:27
Sosumi	lol, trees breath CO2	Jan 09 14:27
Sosumi	no worries, just plant more	Jan 09 14:27
DaemonFC	There was no real reason for it though. GNOME 2 wasn't so bad.	Jan 09 14:27
MinceR	but in order to be candlelight, it would need to appear to have a pool of molten wax under the top of the bible pile	Jan 09 14:27
MinceR	so that the pages can wick the wax and fuel the flame with it	Jan 09 14:27
MinceR	gnome 2 was worse than gnome 1, though	Jan 09 14:28
MinceR	for example, the gnome 1 panel could swallow any x client as an applet	Jan 09 14:28
Sosumi	something like that, but I don't specifics are too important on this case	Jan 09 14:29
Sosumi	unless you actually want to build one	Jan 09 14:29
Sosumi	which is kind of pointless and you'd be encroaching into other ppl's freedoms	Jan 09 14:30
Sosumi	and who say bibles	Jan 09 14:30
Sosumi	well I not burn the zohar	Jan 09 14:30
Sosumi	or the quram	Jan 09 14:30
Sosumi	better let each fool do his own thing	Jan 09 14:31
Sosumi	if they want to blindly follow what was put in front of them by their parents, because their parents also did it to them	Jan 09 14:31
Sosumi	aka indoctrination starts at home	Jan 09 14:31
MinceR	unless chuck norris gets his way -- in which case it can start at school.	Jan 09 14:34
Sosumi	although I actually think that the rejection of a perfect being or creator should not be disregarded	Jan 09 14:35
Sosumi	following thought systems like those of religion or cults is dumb	Jan 09 14:35
Sosumi	I need to re-frase that,	Jan 09 14:35
Sosumi	I think that the rejection of a creator or perfect being should not be disregarded, because man actually needs something to serve example	Jan 09 14:36
Sosumi	and not let himself fall into moral relativity	Jan 09 14:36
Sosumi	following religious systems or cults is just plain dumb and ignorant	Jan 09 14:36
Sosumi	pff and I actually ended up writing exactly the same	Jan 09 14:37
*Sosumi needs to take a cold shower		Jan 09 14:37
Sosumi	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2014/01/teen-reported-security-hole/	Jan 09 14:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.wired.com \| Teen Reported to Police After Finding Security Hole in Website \| Threat Level \| Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdju1 ]	Jan 09 14:50
Sosumi	no good deed should ever go unpunished	Jan 09 14:50
Sosumi	spot the differences	Jan 09 14:55
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdiiMlxCIAAiAUd.jpg	Jan 09 14:55
DaemonFC	I decided to spend a few days pigging out.	Jan 09 14:55
DaemonFC	I need to gain a few pounds.	Jan 09 14:55
MinceR	Sosumi: so what if there's no creator or perfect being?	Jan 09 14:56
Sosumi	http://cstm.mymiddleearth.com/files/2011/01/CarnDumPoop.png	Jan 09 14:56
MinceR	does it preclude you from behaving ethically?	Jan 09 14:56
MinceR	strange, on the first of those two pics, one turd is stacked on another	Jan 09 14:56
Sosumi	turd²	Jan 09 14:56
Sosumi	that was the difference	Jan 09 14:57
Sosumi	I know better, but what I said was for the general folks out there	Jan 09 14:57
MinceR	it's a dangerous game to stack an entire system of values on shaky propositions	Jan 09 14:58
MinceR	and it is unnecessary	Jan 09 14:58
Sosumi	do you have better?	Jan 09 14:58
MinceR	i do	Jan 09 14:58
MinceR	basing ethical reasoning on the actual consequences of actions	Jan 09 14:59
Sosumi	like?	Jan 09 14:59
MinceR	and reciprocity	Jan 09 14:59
Sosumi	well that is good	Jan 09 14:59
Sosumi	but what about the folks who fall into moral relativity	Jan 09 14:59
Sosumi	like I'm going to steal because all I know is to steal	Jan 09 15:00
Sosumi	or like I'm fat because my genetics say I must be fat, while continuing to eat trash	Jan 09 15:00
MinceR	threaten thieves with actual punishment?	Jan 09 15:00
MinceR	point out that they won't like if others steal from them?	Jan 09 15:00
MinceR	as for allowing oneself to become fat, that's hardly a question of ethics	Jan 09 15:01
Sosumi	that only works on world with lvls reason	Jan 09 15:01
Sosumi	which isn't the case of this one	Jan 09 15:01
MinceR	it is also possible to use logic to point out the consequences of one person stealing and also the consequences of stealing being generally accepted and practiced	Jan 09 15:01
MinceR	how would an imaginary friend help better?	Jan 09 15:02
Sosumi	it isn't an imaginary friend, just and archtype of perfection	Jan 09 15:02
Sosumi	just like lucifer is an archtype for intellect	Jan 09 15:03
MinceR	way too specific for that	Jan 09 15:03
MinceR	what is yahweh an archetype for?	Jan 09 15:03
MinceR	vengeful, unjust mass murderers?	Jan 09 15:03
Sosumi	the lifegiver aka the sun	Jan 09 15:04
MinceR	that hardly makes any sense	Jan 09 15:04
MinceR	also, they disposed with their sun goddess (Shapash/Shapshu)	Jan 09 15:05
iophk	ruining Android devices with Vista8	Jan 09 15:05
iophk	http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245253/Intel_trumpets_Android_Windows_as_more_choice_	Jan 09 15:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerworld.com \| Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1b ]	Jan 09 15:05
MinceR	they only kept yahweh, the war god	Jan 09 15:05
iophk	http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2322002/pirate-bay-founder-gottfrid-svartholm-warg-gets-an-extended-prison-stay	Jan 09 15:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theinquirer.net \| Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Svartholm Warg gets an extended prison stay- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1g ]	Jan 09 15:06
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/50000-call-to-free-pirate-bay-founder-as-court-extends-custody-140108/	Jan 09 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| 50,000 Call to Free Pirate Bay Founder as Court Extends Custody \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1k ]	Jan 09 15:06
Sosumi	well, they also disposed the women of their place in the priesthoods and after that it started being males in gowns	Jan 09 15:06
Sosumi	it is just how it is	Jan 09 15:06
Sosumi	http://rt.com/news/fukushima-decontamination-system-stops-352/	Jan 09 15:08
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gdk21 ]	Jan 09 15:08
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 15:09
Sosumi	it never worked, dumping radioactive debris in tokyo bay, incinerating other, constant leaks and covert container dumpings during storms	Jan 09 15:09
Sosumi	Fukushima failure: Decontamination system stops functioning	Jan 09 15:09
Sosumi	grab your female japanese wife before she grows tentacles and starts glowing	Jan 09 15:11
MinceR	those would certainly broaden the options	Jan 09 15:11
Sosumi	lol	Jan 09 15:11
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iophk	http://www.hngn.com/articles/21547/20140109/more-security-experts-cancel-speech-for-rsa-conference.htm	Jan 09 17:21
TechrightsBot-tr	www.hngn.com \| More Security Experts Cancel Speech for RSA Conference : News : Headlines & Global News [ http://ur1.ca/gdl06 ]	Jan 09 17:21
iophk	http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/security/319544-what-it-s-like-when-the-fbi-asks-you-to-backdoor-your-software	Jan 09 17:40
TechrightsBot-tr	securitywatch.pcmag.com \| What It's Like When The FBI Asks You To Backdoor Your Software [ http://ur1.ca/gdl3x ]	Jan 09 17:40
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MinceR	https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/419688527215853568	Jan 09 18:00
TechrightsBot-tr	@TheTweetOfGod: For the record, I AM a conservative. My son, on the other hand, is a communist.	Jan 09 18:00
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Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-09/hedge-fund-slams-portuguese-bonds-64-page-slideshow	Jan 09 18:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zerohedge.com \| Hedge Fund Slams Portuguese Bonds With 64 Page Slideshow \| Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gdlcp ]	Jan 09 18:22
Sosumi	bury the crippling debt and start a new	Jan 09 18:22
Sosumi	"2	Jan 09 18:24
Sosumi	nd	Jan 09 18:24
Sosumi	Best EU Sovereign Performer in 2012 and 2013, €72B of official sector money for Portuguese bondholders, Mostly Benefits Banks, and Hedge Funds in the UK, US…"	Jan 09 18:24
Sosumi	by stealing from the ppl	Jan 09 18:24
Sosumi	and strangling small businesses	Jan 09 18:24
Sosumi	and https://avaazdo.s3.amazonaws.com/7400a6b8d9a22ec5afadce3a27149082.jpg	Jan 09 18:26
MinceR	https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Whh-PZ-KRTU/Us51VjJnyVI/AAAAAAAAIwc/P_B0MPgpZGA/w550-h495-no/2014+-+1	Jan 09 18:33
MinceR	(old) http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/opinion/sunday/a-quantum-theory-of-mitt-romney.html?_r=1&	Jan 09 19:11
TechrightsBot-tr	myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gdllb ]	Jan 09 19:11
MinceR	also, coralcdn seems to be dead	Jan 09 19:13
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MinceR	it came back from the dead	Jan 09 19:16
MinceR	so if it comes up with the paywall, then http://www-nc.nytimes.com.nyud.net/2012/04/01/opinion/sunday/a-quantum-theory-of-mitt-romney.html?=_r=6&	Jan 09 19:16
TechrightsBot-tr	www-nc.nytimes.com.nyud.net \| A Quantum Theory of Mitt Romney - NYTimes.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdlmr ]	Jan 09 19:17
icecrawler	hey	Jan 09 19:19
MinceR	hay	Jan 09 19:19
icecrawler	fewt - there u are mofo, i cant get fuduntu updates	Jan 09 19:33
fewt	icecrawler	Jan 09 19:35
fewt	that's probably true, since it stopped existing last april.	Jan 09 19:35
fewt	also, yes, I am a mofo	Jan 09 19:35
fewt	for well over 15 years. hah	Jan 09 19:35
fewt	MinceR: haaaay	Jan 09 19:36
MinceR	fewt: http://latenightjimmy.tumblr.com/post/49569873438/in-honor-of-the-kentucky-derby-jimmy-did-a	Jan 09 19:36
TechrightsBot-tr	latenightjimmy.tumblr.com \| Late Night with Jimmy Fallon • In honor of the Kentucky Derby, Jimmy did a... [ http://ur1.ca/gdlql ]	Jan 09 19:36
fewt	MinceR, <3	Jan 09 19:37
schestowitz	v	Jan 09 19:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500048	Jan 09 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245253/Intel_trumpets_Android_Windows_as_more_choice_ better than Windows-only (Wintel)	Jan 09 19:39
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.computerworld.com \| Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1b ]	Jan 09 19:39
schestowitz	"If it comes with Restricted Boot, it's not better than Windows only. Sooner or later, it will be a brick."	Jan 09 19:39
schestowitz	I've always said (since 2006) that Intel should be boycotted for more reasons than that	Jan 09 19:39
fewt	An Intel boycott wouldn't be successful. It would only harm those trying to organize the boycott.	Jan 09 19:42
fewt	That whole cutting off your own nose thing. Intel is in so many aspects of computing it would take millions to make a dent.	Jan 09 19:42
MinceR	one can support their competitors though	Jan 09 19:42
fewt	Oh absolutely.	Jan 09 19:42
MinceR	that does more than just deprive intel of revenue	Jan 09 19:43
fewt	Only if you can convince enough people to join you.	Jan 09 19:43
MinceR	indeed.	Jan 09 19:43
fewt	If you were able to attract the entire FOSS community, yeah you'd make it work.	Jan 09 19:43
fewt	The large majority of the FOSS communtity (IMHO) doesn't care enough though.	Jan 09 19:43
fewt	they just want free stuff.	Jan 09 19:44
MinceR	it doesn't have to be the FOSS community	Jan 09 19:44
fewt	sure sure	Jan 09 19:44
fewt	I agree	Jan 09 19:44
MinceR	non-FOSS people can participate too	Jan 09 19:44
fewt	if you can find a way to attract them to the cause, yes absolutely	Jan 09 19:44
fewt	but how	Jan 09 19:44
fewt	most users don't care about anything but the computer turning on when they push the go button.	Jan 09 19:45
MinceR	it seems the industry already found some ways :>	Jan 09 19:45
MinceR	mobile (and otherwise) computing via ARM, for example	Jan 09 19:45
fewt	Computers are pretty much just smart appliances.	Jan 09 19:45
fewt	to them anyway.	Jan 09 19:45
fewt	yeah, true.	Jan 09 19:45
fewt	but the majority of ARM devices have locked bootloaders. At least the big telco devices do.	Jan 09 19:46
fewt	so you just subtract one bad behavior for another	Jan 09 19:46
MinceR	indeed	Jan 09 19:46
fewt	substitute	Jan 09 19:46
MinceR	Raspberry Pi-s and Pandoras don't, though.	Jan 09 19:46
fewt	it's such a complex issue	Jan 09 19:46
fewt	true that	Jan 09 19:46
MinceR	same with Nexus devices	Jan 09 19:46
fewt	<3 nexus devices personally	Jan 09 19:46
MinceR	and i think that most unlocked devices are unlocked or unlockable nowadays	Jan 09 19:47
schestowitz	fewt: fallacy	Jan 09 19:47
schestowitz	just because an entity it very big does not make it defensible or unbeatable	Jan 09 19:47
schestowitz	you just need to bear it more before it's knocked over	Jan 09 19:47
fewt	no no, I didn't mean to imply that it was unbeatable.	Jan 09 19:48
fewt	just that it's a very complex issue	Jan 09 19:48
schestowitz	Apple, Microsoft - both are huge - but any blow to them does make them smaller	Jan 09 19:48
schestowitz	Defeatism assumes you'll be crushed to death by those whom you criticise	Jan 09 19:48
fewt	when you do start to crack them, they will run to the government and ask for a handout	Jan 09 19:48
fewt	and you start over	Jan 09 19:48
fewt	like the banks and auto industries did	Jan 09 19:48
schestowitz	many in China they'd be connected to the Mafia well enough to kill you, like Coca Cola does in Colombia and elsewhere	Jan 09 19:48
MinceR	meanwhile, their competitors will rise	Jan 09 19:49
fewt	I don't mean to imply that no-one should try	Jan 09 19:49
schestowitz	fewt: bailouts are a separate issue	Jan 09 19:49
fewt	only that it's a huge challenge.	Jan 09 19:49
MinceR	and at the least you can hope for a state where intel, m$ and crApple are no longer forced on you	Jan 09 19:49
fewt	yes	Jan 09 19:49
MinceR	and they no longer have total control	Jan 09 19:49
schestowitz	BTW, Seagate and Sainsbury's (official accounts) contacted me today in, public	Jan 09 19:49
schestowitz	Sainsbury's has a quyarter of a million follows	Jan 09 19:49
schestowitz	followers	Jan 09 19:49
fewt	MinceR, I'm very close to ridding myself of my last Intel (x86_64) based device.	Jan 09 19:49
schestowitz	and it worried about something I wrote about their privacy policy	Jan 09 19:49
fewt	my next devices will be ARM only running Android.	Jan 09 19:50
MinceR	i'm not but i'm planning to switch my main computer to ARM	Jan 09 19:50
schestowitz	Seagate tio responded, it means that their policy it to "engage" with such crtitics, it's a business threat, a whispter campaugn	Jan 09 19:50
fewt	MinceR I'm pondering the HP Slate Pro	Jan 09 19:50
schestowitz	*whisper campaign	Jan 09 19:50
MinceR	as my current convertible tablet pc is too damn heavy and lasts too little on battery	Jan 09 19:50
MinceR	i'm pondering the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF701T	Jan 09 19:50
fewt	or, just using my Nexus 7 full time	Jan 09 19:50
fewt	I practically do now..	Jan 09 19:50
MinceR	failing that, the Nexus 7 (2013) 32 GB WiFi	Jan 09 19:50
schestowitz	BTW, UEFI is f*cked in the minds of many Lin ux users	Jan 09 19:50
schestowitz	I wrote articles that reached hunfreds of thousands	Jan 09 19:51
MinceR	i could use a keyboard with those while powering (and charging) them from mains	Jan 09 19:51
schestowitz	And heads of UEFI (Intel staff) arrange a conference call with me, allowed me to record.	Jan 09 19:51
fewt	nice	Jan 09 19:51
schestowitz	This too means they're hurting	Jan 09 19:51
fewt	or they are willing to listen and adapt	Jan 09 19:51
fewt	listening != hurting	Jan 09 19:51
schestowitz	They'd have other things to do if they saw critics as powerless	Jan 09 19:51
schestowitz	You can change the way some issuesa are publicly discused, such as SeaWorld	Jan 09 19:52
MinceR	well, if they won't listen then the PC is dead	Jan 09 19:52
schestowitz	After the article got removed and the writer left Forbes it only made them look much worse	Jan 09 19:52
fewt	sure sure	Jan 09 19:52
schestowitz	listening is PR talk	Jan 09 19:52
fewt	well	Jan 09 19:52
schestowitz	like the word jono et al. use	Jan 09 19:52
fewt	listening could be pr talk	Jan 09 19:52
schestowitz	"we listen to the community"	Jan 09 19:53
fewt	lol @ jono	Jan 09 19:53
MinceR	jono doesn't even do much listening	Jan 09 19:53
schestowitz	It's just marketing talk	Jan 09 19:53
fewt	we listen but we don't act	Jan 09 19:53
MinceR	he's not very good at it, is he?	Jan 09 19:53
schestowitz	Conversation on payroll takes resources	Jan 09 19:53
fewt	goes in one ear and out the other!	Jan 09 19:53
schestowitz	What they actually tru to achieve ir reframing of public debate	Jan 09 19:53
schestowitz	they can listen to public debate, read the critics	Jan 09 19:53
schestowitz	the criticism are well understood by them	Jan 09 19:54
fewt	Have you joined the UEFI standards body?	Jan 09 19:54
fewt	a seat there would get you closer to being heard whenever you want	Jan 09 19:54
schestowitz	So it's about talking back, trying to influence the critics, not about listening	Jan 09 19:54
fewt	Canonical and RedHat sit on that board.	Jan 09 19:54
fewt	just an idea.	Jan 09 19:54
schestowitz	it's a corproate thing	Jan 09 19:55
schestowitz	They welcome companies that use UEFI or sel hardware	Jan 09 19:55
schestowitz	Visit their site	Jan 09 19:55
schestowitz	It's no place for public paarticicpants	Jan 09 19:55
schestowitz	stakeholders and shareholder of Intel and its partners	Jan 09 19:55
MinceR	maybe Canonical and Red Hat are making the same mistake BeOS, Inc. did	Jan 09 19:55
fewt	Techrights is a non-profit right?	Jan 09 19:55
schestowitz	It pregtends to have .org status	Jan 09 19:55
fewt	oh	Jan 09 19:55
schestowitz	It's really a front for Intel and ilk, inc. Apple and MSFT	Jan 09 19:56
schestowitz	Mostly US companies	Jan 09 19:56
schestowitz	Watch their site, check all the 9 or so key members	Jan 09 19:56
fewt	I'm not going to say it's a mistake, or not a mistake. I don't really know. The concept is a really good one.	Jan 09 19:56
schestowitz	And check who management works for	Jan 09 19:56
MinceR	what concept?	Jan 09 19:56
fewt	but the implementation, ehhh it isn't very good.	Jan 09 19:56
schestowitz	(only/amost all Intel)	Jan 09 19:56
schestowitz	I researched their background before our conference call	Jan 09 19:56
MinceR	an extremely bloated boot firmware built on broken m$ "technology" that partly resides on the hard drive?	Jan 09 19:56
schestowitz	[19:55] <fewt> Techrights is a non-profit right?	Jan 09 19:56
schestowitz	Deeo in losses	Jan 09 19:57
schestowitz	If it was a business	Jan 09 19:57
MinceR	and also includes lock-in	Jan 09 19:57
schestowitz	Which it's not	Jan 09 19:57
MinceR	disguised as "security" (as usual)	Jan 09 19:57
fewt	MinceR, the ability to enforce signed bootstrap is good. The implementation, not so much.	Jan 09 19:57
schestowitz	The only person who had paid 6 pounds monthly for a couple of months cancelled this morning	Jan 09 19:57
fewt	schestowitz, oic, fair enough.	Jan 09 19:57
schestowitz	so there's no donations	Jan 09 19:57
fewt	oh wow	Jan 09 19:57
fewt	sorry to hear that	Jan 09 19:57
MinceR	fewt: the ability is only valid and trustworthy if it doesn't include any keys by default	Jan 09 19:57
MinceR	same as the TPM, including a key shows their true intentions.	Jan 09 19:57
fewt	MinceR: I agree with that completely	Jan 09 19:57
schestowitz	esp. the 'sescure' boot stuff	Jan 09 19:58
fewt	schestowitz, keeping the lights on is the biggest challenge an FOSS project faces in my experience.	Jan 09 19:58
schestowitz	I basically told them, dtop this and then UEFI is mostly OK	Jan 09 19:58
fewt	that's one of the reasons I was happy to see RedHat bring the CentOS devs on board.	Jan 09 19:58
schestowitz	And compared it to DRM, their president agreed with me on it	Jan 09 19:58
schestowitz	They'll get lots of negative press until or unless they stop this remote-controlling thing	Jan 09 19:59
schestowitz	!google nsa says boot brick	Jan 09 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - If You Use Microsoft Windows, the NSA Can Brick Your Computer ... \| http://techrights.org/2013/06/24/nsa-and-uefi/	Jan 09 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - NSA Confirms Remote Computer Bricking by BIOS (or UEFI) as a ... \| http://techrights.org/2013/12/16/boot-process-threat/	Jan 09 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Infosecurity - China's Plot to Brick the US Economy \| http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/36149/chinas-plot-to-brick-the-us-economy/	Jan 09 19:59
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - '60 Minutes' BIOS Plot May Be NSA Invention – Tom's Guide \| http://www.tomsguide.com/us/60-minutes-bios-plot-nsa,news-17988.html	Jan 09 19:59
fewt	icecrawler, are you still running Fuduntu by the way? Also, I don't believe we've met before (though I could be wrong about that, I've met a lot of people in irc over the years)	Jan 09 19:59
schestowitz	Now they have a US consortium well set to do this	Jan 09 19:59
schestowitz	brick any PC in the world using a TCO/IP packet	Jan 09 19:59
schestowitz	*TCP	Jan 09 20:00
schestowitz	fewt: MS tried to schmooze centos	Jan 09 20:00
schestowitz	for years	Jan 09 20:00
schestowitz	inclouding Sandy gupta from SCO	Jan 09 20:00
schestowitz	Who now works for MSFT	Jan 09 20:00
fewt	meh	Jan 09 20:00
schestowitz	So for CentOS is was escaping to the giant that's not MSFT	Jan 09 20:00
fewt	didn't seem to work. :)	Jan 09 20:00
schestowitz	Although Red Hat itself has bad interests to do with IBM as key partner, now more so with MSFT too (virt-wise)	Jan 09 20:01
fewt	That's the nature of business.	Jan 09 20:02
fewt	RedHat is always going to have to have some sort of a relationship with companies who have bad histories.	Jan 09 20:02
fewt	Well, I'm out for a bit. Later!	Jan 09 20:05
schestowitz	well, it does not stretch as far as giving its patents to MSFT and PAYING MS for other people's hard work	Jan 09 20:05
MinceR	o/	Jan 09 20:05
schestowitz	:-) laters	Jan 09 20:06
iophk	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/09/anonymous-search-tool-duckduckgo-1bn-queries-2013-google	Jan 09 20:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| Anonymous search tool DuckDuckGo answered 1bn queries in 2013 \| Technology \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdlze ]	Jan 09 20:19
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/421377129306021888	Jan 09 20:33
TechrightsBot-tr	@glynmoody: @schestowitz in what sense?	Jan 09 20:33
schestowitz	Shifting debate from death of one man into statistics	Jan 09 20:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/421377176273833984	Jan 09 20:35
TechrightsBot-tr	@glynmoody: @schestowitz you mean by moving away from the present case?	Jan 09 20:35
schestowitz	exactly, debate-shifting. Cleverly done to improve the image of British police. Home Office cited.	Jan 09 20:36
Sosumi	when evil fights evil (IBM), good as a chance to actually put up some fight	Jan 09 20:37
schestowitz	and comparing UK #s to US is like comparing #obama to #bush - will they do same re penal system (US had majority pop' there)?	Jan 09 20:37
Sosumi	red hat and ibm have both done good stuff for linux	Jan 09 20:37
Sosumi	although IBM actually did the usual crap	Jan 09 20:38
Sosumi	and as of late even partnered with M$ for some patent deal amendments	Jan 09 20:39
Sosumi	and secure boot should either be trashed or the user be allowed to sign his own keys	Jan 09 20:39
Sosumi	and as for crapple, they totally trashed secure boot	Jan 09 20:40
schestowitz	IIRC (no URL offhand), deaths in police custody high in UK; also, can't compare police # to "world's policeman" (US)	Jan 09 20:40
MinceR	it would be best to trash the whole of uefi in favor of something that was actually engineered	Jan 09 20:40
Sosumi	or that	Jan 09 20:40
MinceR	(not "what m$ crap could we glue on top of this trash heap today?")	Jan 09 20:40
Sosumi	and the firmware source code being accessible wouldn't be bad either	Jan 09 20:42
Sosumi	instead of just those .cap files	Jan 09 20:42
jono	schestowitz I listen to the community	Jan 09 20:43
jono	but I appreciate that you will never see that	Jan 09 20:43
MinceR	also no kitchen sinks	Jan 09 20:43
Sosumi	yeah, you could always audit the code	Jan 09 20:44
Sosumi	which in this day and age should be there as an option	Jan 09 20:44
Sosumi	even introducing slight variations to code would be good	Jan 09 20:45
Sosumi	instead of having total homogeneity	Jan 09 20:45
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3499858	Jan 09 20:51
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For crackers, question may no longer be "ARE there any flaws in this piece of proprietary s/w?" Question now: "WHERE are the backdoors?"	Jan 09 20:51
schestowitz	"The point is that they always knew they could find a hole in commercial trash. Now, despite continued denials and misdirection, we have proof of why."	Jan 09 20:51
schestowitz	jono: anyone can tune in, the debate is public	Jan 09 20:52
schestowitz	it's good that people like you are there to act as moral compass for peripheral interests, such as community	Jan 09 20:52
jono	schestowitz community is not a peripheral interest	Jan 09 20:53
jono	it is a core part of what we do	Jan 09 20:53
MinceR	:D	Jan 09 20:54
fewt	I don't think I can agree with that at all.	Jan 09 21:02
fewt	but that's just my opinion.	Jan 09 21:03
fewt	:D	Jan 09 21:03
gde33	if a string of letters is a kind of property, howmany letters do I need? If someone would own BP they couldn't expect me not to reproduce the full text of their property in the chat.	Jan 09 21:27
gde33	howmany words do we need?	Jan 09 21:27
gde33	say I write a text and produce a data uri	Jan 09 21:28
gde33	am I the only one who can post that link?	Jan 09 21:28
gde33	o god I find text of many crazy court cases explaining all this in "detail"	Jan 09 21:31
gde33	".....There's No Business Like No Business" (sung to the tune of "There's No Business Like Show Business"), Judge Metzner decided that the issue of copyright infringement was closer, requiring a trial because in each case the parodies relied on the same verbal hooks ("always" and "business") as the originals.	Jan 09 21:33
MinceR	it's madness	Jan 09 21:41
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Sosumi	jono, "a house divided wont stand tall"	Jan 09 21:50
jono	Sosumi, agreed	Jan 09 21:50
Sosumi	so yes keeping at least a sense of community is important	Jan 09 21:50
MinceR	i just hope that applications that target ubuntu/unity will remain usable on other distros and DEs	Jan 09 21:52
schestowitz	http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2014/01/great-news-from-buylinuxcdscouk.html	Jan 09 22:07
TechrightsBot-tr	linuxblog.darkduck.com \| Great News from BuyLinuxCDs.co.uk - Linux notes from DarkDuck [ http://ur1.ca/gdmh1 ]	Jan 09 22:07
schestowitz	MinceR: I use Canonical PPAs in Kubuntu	Jan 09 22:08
schestowitz	and that works well	Jan 09 22:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500665	Jan 09 22:09
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Reform of EU copyright rules: your chance to give your views! http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/reform-eu-copyright-rules-your-chance-give-your-views #kroes says they're listening to _GASP_ people	Jan 09 22:09
TechrightsBot-tr	-> ec.europa.eu \| Reform of EU copyright rules: your chance to give your views! - European Commission [ http://ur1.ca/gdiug ]	Jan 09 22:09
schestowitz	"The same way they listened to Ireland?"	Jan 09 22:09
schestowitz	Can always try, it's better to try than to patrionise the opening	Jan 09 22:10
MinceR	schestowitz: i mean API and windowing system compatibility	Jan 09 22:10
schestowitz	*patronise	Jan 09 22:10
schestowitz	MinceR: Mir and all?	Jan 09 22:10
MinceR	not sure	Jan 09 22:10
schestowitz	How will that affect things, qt/gtk, kwin/mir?	Jan 09 22:11
MinceR	i don't know	Jan 09 22:11
schestowitz	Martin of KWin is upset att Mir	Jan 09 22:11
schestowitz	so that might mean KDE distros would not work or work well with future ubuntu apps	Jan 09 22:11
schestowitz	I think he now works for Blue Systems, used to be in RHAT IITC	Jan 09 22:11
MinceR	but ubuntu's way of doing everything their way and certain sw developers (especially corporate) idea of just going at the most popular distros is worrying a bit	Jan 09 22:11
schestowitz	!google valve says canonical licensing	Jan 09 22:12
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Valve unveils its Steam Machine prototype \| bit-gamer.net \| http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2013/11/05/valve-steam-machine-prototype/1	Jan 09 22:12
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Valve's Steam License Causes Linux Packaging Concerns - Slashdot \| http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/11/16/2037231/valves-steam-license-causes-linux-packaging-concerns	Jan 09 22:12
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - What Valve's Announcements Mean for Gaming - Slashdot \| http://games.slashdot.org/story/13/09/28/136230/what-valves-announcements-mean-for-gaming	Jan 09 22:12
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Canonical licenses H.264 – Theora out for the count? [Updated ... \| http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h264-theora-out-for-the-count-updated	Jan 09 22:12
schestowitz	!google valve says ubuntu licensing	Jan 09 22:12
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Valve's Steam License Causes Linux Packaging Concerns - Slashdot \| http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/11/16/2037231/valves-steam-license-causes-linux-packaging-concerns	Jan 09 22:12
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - [Phoronix] Valve's Steam License Causes Linux Packaging Concerns \| http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dnews_item%26px%3DMTIyOTI	Jan 09 22:12
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Valve - Ubuntu Wiki \| https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve	Jan 09 22:12
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - How Valve's Controversial Move To Linux Is Affecting Windows ... \| http://www.noobslab.com/2012/09/how-valves-controversial-move-to-linux.html	Jan 09 22:12
MinceR	i don't know if client-side decorations will be coming back, for example	Jan 09 22:12
MinceR	(a truly horrid idea)	Jan 09 22:12
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JoeLlama	hrm why boycott novell? just curious	Jan 09 22:41
JoeLlama	I was a CNE back in the 90's	Jan 09 22:41
JoeLlama	welp :) nice visiting	Jan 09 23:03
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Sosumi	mir or should I call it	Jan 09 23:03
Sosumi	mirstake	Jan 09 23:03
Sosumi	but I really have no idea, heard moronical was going to drop the whole gnome foundation	Jan 09 23:04
Sosumi	but since they use QT	Jan 09 23:05
Sosumi	probably it'll work on non ubuntu forks	Jan 09 23:05
MinceR	unless they mangle everything because it has to be different	Jan 09 23:12
MinceR	like with the indicator crapplets	Jan 09 23:12
Sosumi	I doubt they are that masochist	Jan 09 23:15
Sosumi	well, even MIRstake doesn't make sense	Jan 09 23:28
Sosumi	why not just improve wayland/weston	Jan 09 23:29
Sosumi	to me they were just abusing their more dominant position at the time to try to create some lock in	Jan 09 23:30
Sosumi	it was also at that time that markie shutleworm went all apologetic with M$	Jan 09 23:30
MinceR	can wayland/weston run on top of surfaceflinger?	Jan 09 23:31
MinceR	that bit could be useful (since there's plenty of hw that certainly supports surfaceflinger)	Jan 09 23:32
Sosumi	no idea, but they could implement it into wayland/weston	Jan 09 23:32
Sosumi	but for finger stuff	Jan 09 23:33
Sosumi	android is already there for that	Jan 09 23:33
Sosumi	putting full desktop linux on a tablet just doesn't make sense	Jan 09 23:34
Sosumi	like the surface	Jan 09 23:34
Sosumi	or I personally don't like it	Jan 09 23:35
Sosumi	because if I'm going to have a portable device like a tablet, I want it to be always on	Jan 09 23:35
Sosumi	like android	Jan 09 23:35
Sosumi	on the case of the surface, that isn't so	Jan 09 23:36
Sosumi	because of the battery duration and heat	Jan 09 23:36
Sosumi	and before the arm comments arrive	Jan 09 23:37
Sosumi	not all sw works on it	Jan 09 23:37
MinceR	actually, running GNU/Linux/X on a tablet makes plenty of sense	Jan 09 23:37
MinceR	when you consider that they're much lighter than x86 laptops and last much longer on battery	Jan 09 23:37
MinceR	and (at least in the Tegra line) GPUs are coming with full profile OpenGL support	Jan 09 23:37
Sosumi	yeah, but android does that fine	Jan 09 23:38
MinceR	so more GNU/Linux/X games could run on it that way	Jan 09 23:38
MinceR	also, x2x and x2vnc could work	Jan 09 23:38
MinceR	can android capture the pointer or warp it, for example?	Jan 09 23:38
MinceR	then again, this sort of gaming is not such a high priority for me	Jan 09 23:39
Sosumi	I was referring to simply grabbing desktop linux and slapping it on a surface type tablet	Jan 09 23:39
Sosumi	that is horrible	Jan 09 23:39
MinceR	and if i really want an x2x hub, i can also use the raspberry pi for that	Jan 09 23:39
MinceR	the x86 surface or the ARM one?	Jan 09 23:39
MinceR	(both are crap, of course)	Jan 09 23:39
Sosumi	the x86	Jan 09 23:39
MinceR	that's probably no better than the convertible tablet pc i use now	Jan 09 23:40
MinceR	heavy, won't last on battery, uses active cooling (so you need to watch where you grab it)	Jan 09 23:40
Sosumi	yes they are trash, but the x86 is the only one that tries to put the typical desktop on a tablet	Jan 09 23:40
Sosumi	and the experience is horrendous	Jan 09 23:40
Sosumi	much better to simply have a normal laptop	Jan 09 23:40
MinceR	i'm not sure about that	Jan 09 23:40
Sosumi	kde on a tablet, anyone?	Jan 09 23:41
MinceR	there's the plasma active thing	Jan 09 23:41
MinceR	though i don't know if that can run x clients or not	Jan 09 23:41
Sosumi	hitting all those small icons and menus	Jan 09 23:41
MinceR	in any case, the occasional dual boot into X would be a nice option	Jan 09 23:41
Sosumi	talk about imputing some data on matlab	Jan 09 23:42
MinceR	you can reconfigure them to be bigger	Jan 09 23:42
Sosumi	or on terminal	Jan 09 23:43
Sosumi	I need an actual kb for actually be productive	Jan 09 23:43
MinceR	or use a stylus	Jan 09 23:43
MinceR	some tablets come with a wacom digitizer	Jan 09 23:43
Sosumi	and having a virtual kb eating half of the screen is just, pffff	Jan 09 23:43
MinceR	i have a usb keyboard	Jan 09 23:43
Sosumi	like the surface	Jan 09 23:43
MinceR	but in some cases i might prefer a virtual keyboard	Jan 09 23:43
Sosumi	and the handwrite recognition isn't accurate	Jan 09 23:43
MinceR	i stopped using handwriting recognition back when i used a palm	Jan 09 23:44
Sosumi	grafitti typeset worked well	Jan 09 23:44
MinceR	not too well	Jan 09 23:46
MinceR	even MessagEase was more usable	Jan 09 23:46
MinceR	but those resistive touchscreens were insensitive as a rock	Jan 09 23:46
Sosumi	I had a m130	Jan 09 23:46
MinceR	i had a Tungsten E2	Jan 09 23:46
Sosumi	one of those cheap models with a color display	Jan 09 23:47
Sosumi	and it was okish	Jan 09 23:47
MinceR	which bricked itself after a year and a month	Jan 09 23:47
Sosumi	the battery	Jan 09 23:47
Sosumi	kind of died after 2 years	Jan 09 23:47
Sosumi	and it was kind of stingy with the mmc cards	Jan 09 23:48
Sosumi	some, it wouldn't just read them	Jan 09 23:49
MinceR	i only had sd cards	Jan 09 23:49
Sosumi	no	Jan 09 23:49
Sosumi	but at that time	Jan 09 23:49
Sosumi	mmc was the standard	Jan 09 23:49
Sosumi	and that model only supported mmc	Jan 09 23:49
MinceR	i know it was the standard earlier :)	Jan 09 23:49
Sosumi	even my nokia 9500	Jan 09 23:50
Sosumi	which I got in release back in late 2005	Jan 09 23:50
Sosumi	only supported mmc	Jan 09 23:50
Sosumi	*on	Jan 09 23:50
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500515	Jan 09 23:52
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How the #NSA nearly destroyed the #internet http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/08/how-the-us-almost-killed-the-internet	Jan 09 23:52
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.wired.co.uk \| How the NSA nearly destroyed the internet (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/gdmwm ]	Jan 09 23:52
schestowitz	"The Internet is part of 'military space', it has been since the beginning - through the deterritorialization brought about by capital (which is now virtual, and in many cases, the circulation of information) and its merger with geostrategy, cyberspace is about informational warfare and a 'deterritorialized' site of power. All of this NSA stuff was predicted in the 1980s&90s through cyber theory and the obscure branches of philosophy,	Jan 09 23:52
schestowitz	so if one is initially exposed to that particular discourse it is not really a surprise that these multinational giants would be subject to the security state...."	Jan 09 23:52
Sosumi	a reminder	Jan 10 00:06
Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/12/Household%20Income%20DC%20vs%20US_2.jpg	Jan 10 00:06
Sosumi	and GN	Jan 10 00:06
schestowitz	"The Internet is part of 'military space', it has been since the beginning - through the deterritorialization brought about by capital (which is now virtual, and in many cases, the circulation of information) and its merger with geostrategy, cyberspace is about informational warfare and a 'deterritorialized' site of power. All of this NSA stuff was predicted in the 1980s&90s through cyber theory and the obscure branches of philosophy (	Jan 10 00:10
schestowitz	ex: Way back in the day Virillio spoke of the personal computer as a "domestic surveillance terminal") so if one is initially exposed to that particular discourse it is not really a surprise that the security apparatuses have 'infiltrated' the Internet - they were there all along. Its also not a surprise that the multinational giants of the Virtual Class would be subject to the security state, seeing as how the private industry helped	Jan 10 00:10
schestowitz	engineer it."	Jan 10 00:10
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schestowitz	Sosumi: thanks, I used all your links from earlier	Jan 10 00:10
schestowitz	posted in social media sites	Jan 10 00:10
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schestowitz	British PP is collapsing http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/blog/2014/jan/9/reflections-former-nominating-officer/	Jan 10 00:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pirateparty.org.uk \| Reflections of a Former Nominating Officer - Pirate Party UK [ http://ur1.ca/gdn2j ]	Jan 10 00:20
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500048	Jan 10 00:22
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245253/Intel_trumpets_Android_Windows_as_more_choice_ better than Windows-only (Wintel)	Jan 10 00:22
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.computerworld.com \| Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1b ]	Jan 10 00:22
schestowitz	"Nothing is quite as easy as GNU/Linux but you won't see Intel trumpeting that."	Jan 10 00:22
icecrawler	because linux is useless	Jan 10 00:26
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MinceR	yet another troll	Jan 10 00:27
schestowitz	good, he won!	Jan 10 00:27
MinceR	lol	Jan 10 00:27
schestowitz	1999 called. It wants its trolls back.	Jan 10 00:28
schestowitz	"linux is useless"	Jan 10 00:28
schestowitz	Void of sunstance	Jan 10 00:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP launches Android powered All-in-One desktop	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	for business users http://t.co/n2Y9LsNTsN	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdna1	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Roku gets sucked into TVs	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nGlX37pNlQ	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdna2	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best word processors for GNU/Linux	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qp6Of3cnpi	Jan 10 01:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| HP launches Android powered All-in-One desktop for business users \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdna3	Jan 10 01:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Roku gets sucked into TVs \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 01:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Best word processors for GNU/Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Linux Setup - Allan Day, GNOME Designer	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/afAk9eDUSI	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdna4	Jan 10 01:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The Linux Setup - Allan Day, GNOME Designer \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Anatomy of a 22-year-old X Window bug: Get root	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	with newly uncovered flaw	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4wqurgafux	Jan 10 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdna6	Jan 10 01:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Anatomy of a 22-year-old X Window bug: Get root with newly uncovered flaw \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 01:17
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:10
DaemonFC	During Christmas, they were paying people $75 gift cards to take $49 iPhone 5c (with contract). iirc, the iPhone 5S, which is slightly less slow was $129 and then you got a $75 gift card.	Jan 10 04:10
DaemonFC	Since Apple's share of the US smart phone market dropped from 53 to 43% last year, as people migrate to Android, they're trying to stop the bleeding.	Jan 10 04:10
DaemonFC	http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57616679-37/iphone-market-share-shrinks-as-android-windows-phone-grow/	Jan 10 04:10
TechrightsBot-tr	news.cnet.com \| iPhone market share shrinks as Android, Windows Phone grow \| Apple - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gdo2t ]	Jan 10 04:10
DaemonFC	So, they were paying them $26 to take an iPhone.	Jan 10 04:10
DaemonFC	I wouldn't take one if they gave me a $100 bill. I came back and got my G2 when it went on the Cyber Monday sale.	Jan 10 04:10
DaemonFC	Also, the iPhone 5S is still having random application crashes, and reboots itself. Typical reliability problems for an Apple phone. Perhaps you're "holding it wrong" again.	Jan 10 04:10
DaemonFC	http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/02/iphone-5s-review-2014/	Jan 10 04:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.gottabemobile.com \| iPhone 5s Review: 100 Days with Apple's New iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gc3zb ]	Jan 10 04:10
DaemonFC	The slow, unstable, technically obsolete "crystal prison" called iPhone is tanking.	Jan 10 04:10
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:17
DaemonFC	http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/17/technology/apple-china-jobs/	Jan 10 04:17
DaemonFC	"How do you convince a great American company to bring that manufacturing back here?"	Jan 10 04:17
DaemonFC	I don't know. Which company are you talking about? :	Jan 10 04:17
TechrightsBot-tr	money.cnn.com \| Why Apple will never bring manufacturing jobs back to U.S. - Oct. 17, 2012 [ http://ur1.ca/gdo3s ]	Jan 10 04:17
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:31
DaemonFC	As soon as the American people are willing to work 12-16 hour shifts, 6-7 days a week, for 25 cents an hour, with no overtime pay, no health insurance, no worker's comp, no Social Security, submit to forced abortions, agree to be exposed to hazardous chemicals throughout their entire shift, live in lice-infested company dorms, eat bad food with bugs living in it from the company cafeteria, and have the company dock half their pay to pay for	Jan 10 04:31
DaemonFC	this "room and board", companies like Apple will gladly bring the jobs back to the USA.	Jan 10 04:31
DaemonFC	You just have to agree to give up everything. And, of course, like Apple's factories in China, there will be worker suicides every single day, but those people are not important, and everyone can be replaced tomorrow, including you.	Jan 10 04:31
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:45
DaemonFC	"Apple never played for market share, it has always played for the premium."	Jan 10 04:45
DaemonFC	Yes, the premium Apple products. You get a premium $75 Walmart gift card when you buy the premium $49 Apple product at Walmart. Then you can go get yourself some premium Walmart underwear on the way out! ;)	Jan 10 04:45
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:47
DaemonFC	http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/5550.jpg	Jan 10 04:47
DaemonFC	This is why all of the gold ones sold out.	Jan 10 04:47
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:55
DaemonFC	Well, anyone that thinks the economy is in the crapper now had better wait until the right-wing politicians allow Social Security and Medicare to run out of money. Imagine adding 60 million more people who have no jobs or money to this economy, and then millions of nurses aides, nurses, an doctors who were making their living from Medicare are unemployed on top of that. It's not too difficult to imagine a future where 100 million Americans (	Jan 10 04:55
DaemonFC	maybe more) are unemployed, have no income, and have no health care.	Jan 10 04:55
DaemonFC	Maybe there is something to this "government is stocking up on bullets" thing. I don't know. It's just a guess. They're either going to have to fix it or get ready to shoot everyone that starts rioting when the entire system falls apart.	Jan 10 04:55
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 05:20
DaemonFC	We had modern graphical user interfaces in the 1990s, just not on Macs. I think you must have missed this thing called Windows 95.	Jan 10 05:20
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DaemonFC	http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/01/man-allegedly-kills-stepdad-with-atomic-wedgie/	Jan 10 06:03
TechrightsBot-tr	abcnews.go.com \| Man Allegedly Kills Stepdad with ‘Atomic Wedgie’ - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/gdoib ]	Jan 10 06:03
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedgie	Jan 10 06:05
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Wedgie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	Jan 10 06:05
DaemonFC	On the 9th of January 2014 multiple news sources reported the first confirmed death by atomic wedgie. Brad Lee-Davis, a 33 year old Oklahoma native, is alleged to have drunkenly fought with his stepfather 58 year old Denver Lee-St. Clair. During the altercation Lee-Davis grabbed Lee-St. Clair's elastic wasitband and underwear, pulled it over his head, and suffocated him with the waistband. [4] Oklahoma Medical Examiner spokeswoman Amy Elliot	Jan 10 06:05
DaemonFC	t said the cause of death was asphyxiation and blunt force trauma.[5]	Jan 10 06:05
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=TxWQ357IAR8U7C&newContentID=MxB35D5BUURI22&newContentNum=40#Mx2SDMKVK45BCMV	Jan 10 06:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Norway is financially solvent [ http://ur1.ca/gdoo5 ]	Jan 10 06:42
DaemonFC	" ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 06:42
DaemonFC	So, when the government is in debt, we pay taxes. When the government is in surplus, we pay taxes. When the government wants to stockpile money, we pay taxes and are forced to sit back and watch while the government slashes programs and services that benefited almost all of us, and cuts taxes on the rich.	Jan 10 06:42
DaemonFC	That's what happened here in Indiana. Those surpluses didn't come from nowhere. The newspaper in Kokomo pointed out that the mother of a man with spina bifida had to fight the state medicaid office for years while they kept sending denial notices and "losing the paperwork" she sent in.	Jan 10 06:42
DaemonFC	That's where the state surpluses are coming from. They're coming from a lot of places. That's why the highways aren't being plowed and salted in a timely manner. That's why classrooms are overcrowded and schools are begging McDonalds, Coca Cola, and Microsoft for money and computers. Microsoft is very happy to give schools computers running Windows, for the same reason the cigarette companies were happy to give free cigarettes to children in	Jan 10 06:42
DaemonFC	the 60s.	Jan 10 06:42
DaemonFC	I remember when I was in school, the school got money from Coke in exchange for putting in Coke machines and a "Fruitopia" machine in the lunchroom. That really helps kids pack on the pounds. That's why we have so many 300 pound 12 year olds wheezing up the school steps."	Jan 10 06:42
Sosumi	"Poisontopia"	Jan 10 06:48
DaemonFC	Fruitopia doesn't even exist here anymore.	Jan 10 06:49
DaemonFC	It disappeared from the shelves at the supermarket around 2000-2001?	Jan 10 06:49
DaemonFC	I remember that they had it on tap at the fountains too, at McDonalds and the gas stations.	Jan 10 06:49
DaemonFC	That disappeared sometime around 2003-2004 I think.	Jan 10 06:50
Sosumi	and with crapple bringing "assembly" into the US, well those are the hallmarks of trying to compete with slave labor countries	Jan 10 06:50
DaemonFC	I think what happened was that they stopped making it, but they kept selling off the syrup that they had already produced.	Jan 10 06:50
DaemonFC	So you could get it from the fountains for about two more years.	Jan 10 06:50
Sosumi	you just can't and that is why really defend import tariffs	Jan 10 06:50
Sosumi	disgusting	Jan 10 06:51
DaemonFC	Fountain syrup lasts about a year if it's diet, and about 2-3 years if it's regular.	Jan 10 06:51
DaemonFC	The expiration on regular mountain dew syrup is about 2 years.	Jan 10 06:51
DaemonFC	Most regular syrup is about 3.	Jan 10 06:51
DaemonFC	So, that would account for why it was available at fountains for so long.	Jan 10 06:52
DaemonFC	They probably had an entire warehouse full, so they just kept shipping it out.	Jan 10 06:52
DaemonFC	It was pretty nasty.	Jan 10 06:52
Sosumi	pfffff, so disgusting	Jan 10 06:53
DaemonFC	It used to be a small company.	Jan 10 06:53
DaemonFC	They made it with cane sugar and real fruit juice.	Jan 10 06:53
DaemonFC	Coca Cola took them over and switched it to High Fructose Corn Syrup and "natural flavors".	Jan 10 06:54
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 10 06:54
DaemonFC	I bought it once after Coke started supplying it, and it tasted nothing like it did before.	Jan 10 06:54
Sosumi	so, they cheapened the formula after acquisition	Jan 10 06:55
Sosumi	but I just can't imagine how good a bottled juice might have tasted	Jan 10 06:56
Sosumi	since I've never tasted a good onw	Jan 10 06:56
Sosumi	one	Jan 10 06:56
Sosumi	nor I buy them	Jan 10 06:57
Sosumi	I just eat the fruits or sometimes in the summer	Jan 10 06:57
Sosumi	a really fresh orange juice	Jan 10 06:57
Sosumi	http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/hp-launches-android-powered-one-desktop-business-users/19001	Jan 10 07:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.muktware.com \| HP launches Android powered All-in-One desktop for business users \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gdorr ]	Jan 10 07:02
Sosumi	would make a nice thin client	Jan 10 07:03
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Sosumi	also, how's the weather?	Jan 10 07:08
Sosumi	still kind of buried under the snow?	Jan 10 07:09
amarsh04	41 C, 41 C and 43 C forecast for three days next week here	Jan 10 07:12
DaemonFC	It snowed some more yesterday.	Jan 10 07:19
Sosumi	amarsh04, where are you located?	Jan 10 07:24
Sosumi	australia?	Jan 10 07:24
amarsh04	Adelaide, South Australia	Jan 10 07:25
Sosumi	I guessed it right then :)	Jan 10 07:27
Sosumi	for us it's going to be rain and more rain with temps ranging from 10 to 20ºC	Jan 10 07:27
schestowitz	Sosumi: thanks, posted	Jan 10 08:43
schestowitz	LOL http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/5550.jpg	Jan 10 08:45
schestowitz	http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/02/iphone-5s-review-2014/	Jan 10 08:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.gottabemobile.com \| iPhone 5s Review: 100 Days with Apple's New iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gc3zb ]	Jan 10 08:47
schestowitz	"Apple will need to work hard to keep users interested"	Jan 10 08:47
schestowitz	Cultsa are not interested	Jan 10 08:47
schestowitz	They're mesmerised	Jan 10 08:47
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 09:22
DaemonFC	Structural government surpluses hurt the economy. They're a sign that either the taxes are too high or that the government should be providing more services.	Jan 10 09:22
DaemonFC	Indiana shouldn't be stockpiling several billion dollars. It should build roads. It should build schools. It should expand Medicaid. It should pay off outstanding debt. At the very least, they should give it back on next year's tax returns so that the people of Indiana can spend the money.	Jan 10 09:22
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DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_dollar	Jan 10 09:31
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| History of the United States dollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gdplg ]	Jan 10 09:31
DaemonFC	"In 1963, the words 'PAYABLE TO THE BEARER ON DEMAND' were removed from all newly issued Federal Reserve notes."	Jan 10 09:31
DaemonFC	I've seen those notes in circulation, but it's been about 20 years.	Jan 10 09:31
DaemonFC	They've probably all been destroyed or kept by collectors.	Jan 10 09:32
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/viewing-pirated-streams-is-not-illegal-german-govt-says-140109/	Jan 10 09:47
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Viewing Pirated Streams is Not Illegal, German Govt Says \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gdpo6 ]	Jan 10 09:47
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 10:04
DaemonFC	Speaking of the military....	Jan 10 10:04
DaemonFC	"[Fighting patents with] prior art is like US soldiers in Iraq. They control the ground they stand on and nothing more. I used to say Vietnam, but, well, you know...." -Richard Stallman	Jan 10 10:04
iophk	http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57616983-93/google-begins-to-merge-google-gmail-contacts/	Jan 10 10:29
TechrightsBot-tr	news.cnet.com \| Google begins to merge Google+, Gmail contacts \| Internet & Media - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gdpuc ]	Jan 10 10:29
iophk	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/10562832/Google-links-social-network-contacts-to-Gmail.html	Jan 10 11:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Google links social network contacts to Gmail - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gdpz5 ]	Jan 10 11:06
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iophk	http://abcnews.go.com/Business/google-invitation-sends-man-jail/story?id=21481276	Jan 10 11:55
TechrightsBot-tr	abcnews.go.com \| Google Invitation Sends Man to Jail - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/gdq81 ]	Jan 10 11:55
DaemonFC	There's a Free Software Foundation credit card now.	Jan 10 12:21
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 12:27
DaemonFC	The best thing that NAFTA ever did was to deeply harm the economy of Mexico (well that's not the good part, the good part is coming) and scare off Central and South American countries from George W. Bush's proposal to extend NAFTA to be the "free trade area of the Americas". It's also concerning some countries and turning them off to the idea of the Trans Pacific Partnership.	Jan 10 12:27
DaemonFC	These countries are having 3-8% GDP growth and don't want to end up like Mexico's 1 or 2%. They also don't want to let their own citizens die so that US drug companies can make an obscene fortune off of the sick.	Jan 10 12:27
DaemonFC	https://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/01/04-1	Jan 10 12:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.commondreams.org \| NAFTA: 20 Years of Regret for Mexico \| Common Dreams [ http://ur1.ca/gdqcs ]	Jan 10 12:27
DaemonFC	"NAFTA: Twenty Years of Regret for Mexico"	Jan 10 12:27
DaemonFC	Twenty years of regret for the United States working class too. Bill Hicks said it best. I can't remember the exact words, but I'll get as close as I can. "There is no debate about NAFTA. These rich people are going to sell your whole life out from under you.".	Jan 10 12:28
iophk	http://www.salon.com/2014/01/09/the_freedom_bush_touted_for_iraq_looks_more_like_bloody_civil_war_partner/	Jan 10 12:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.salon.com \| Bush’s Iraqi “freedom”: Bloody civil war - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdqgx ]	Jan 10 12:51
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iophk	"M$, too" strategy -- again	Jan 10 14:55
iophk	http://mrpogson.com/2014/01/10/schizophrenic-it-policy-at-european-commission/	Jan 10 14:55
TechrightsBot-tr	mrpogson.com \| Schizophrenic IT Policy at European Commission \| Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gdqz9 ]	Jan 10 14:55
iophk	"ODF is supported only upon request and the documents may contain formatting errors"	Jan 10 14:57
DaemonFC	It seems that the xfce and mate versions of Fedora are using Yum extender.	Jan 10 15:06
DaemonFC	Uggh.	Jan 10 15:06
DaemonFC	I see that it hasn't gotten any faster.	Jan 10 15:06
Sosumi	http://www.anandtech.com/show/7613/asus-p9x79e-ws-review/8	Jan 10 15:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.anandtech.com \| AnandTech \| ASUS P9X79-E WS Review: Xeon meets PLX for 7x [ http://ur1.ca/gdr3h ]	Jan 10 15:22
Sosumi	nice board	Jan 10 15:22
Sosumi	but all the testing was done in vista7	Jan 10 15:23
Sosumi	even through asus, officially supports linux on their WS grade boards	Jan 10 15:23
DaemonFC	It looks like Fedora has been fixing up Compiz.	Jan 10 15:24
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DaemonFC	They dropped the 0.9.x branch that was rewritten in C++ (the one from Ubuntu), and went back to the 0.8.8 branch.	Jan 10 15:24
DaemonFC	The patched up 0.8.8 release is the default window manager on the Fedora MATE spin.	Jan 10 15:25
DaemonFC	It makes sense. The old Compiz branch worked pretty well.	Jan 10 15:25
DaemonFC	I didn't start having major problems with it until I tried the 0.9 series.	Jan 10 15:25
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iophk	http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2014/01/defensive-patent-licence-nice-idea-alas-not-much-use/index.htm	Jan 10 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr	blogs.computerworlduk.com \| Defensive Patent Licence: Nice Idea; Not Much Use - Open Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/gdr86 ]	Jan 10 15:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ZOL relaunches local mirror for largest Linux	Jan 10 15:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Games http://t.co/9oyFggmgJC	Jan 10 15:57
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Sosumi	DaemonFC, weren't you using KDE?	Jan 10 16:03
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Sosumi	and thus kwin	Jan 10 16:03
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_rvt_np?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=TxHBFD2RDXAOUG	Jan 10 16:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Surprise! Walmart health plan is cheaper, offers more coverage than ObamaCare [ http://ur1.ca/gdrmc ]	Jan 10 16:54
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 16:55
DaemonFC	"The medical journal reported a 30-year-old smoker would pay up to $428 per month, in contrast to roughly $70 each month for a Walmart employee."	Jan 10 16:55
DaemonFC	My boyfriend is a 24 year old smoker. For the Affordable Care Act marketplace silver plan, he pays $56 a month.	Jan 10 16:55
DaemonFC	"Walmart individuals face a $2,750 deductible and families need to pay $5,500 under the HRA plan. Individuals pay $1,750 and families pay $3,500 deductibles under the HRA High plan."	Jan 10 16:55
DaemonFC	My boyfriend has no deductible under his ACA marketplace Silver plan. Asking a Walmart employee to come up with $1,750 is ludicrous. You might as well ask them to cough up $175,000. $2,750? **** you! :)	Jan 10 16:55
DaemonFC	No non-management Walmart employee has $1,750 in the bank. Most of them are so poor that they don't even have a bank account. They're living paycheck to paycheck on about $8 an hour, and getting less than 30 hours a week. You do the math and get back to me on where the **** they're going to find $1,750. And that's just the deductible. After you hit the deductible, you still have co-pays, "co-insurance", and a laundry list of other nightmares.	Jan 10 16:55
DaemonFC	My boyfriend's ACA plan has a $500 a month maximum out of pocket cap. Walmart's has no such cap. My boyfriend pays nothing to see his primary care physician under the ACA marketplace silver plan. With Walmart, you have to reach the $1,750 deductible, and then you pay your co-pay. My boyfriend pays $10 to see a specialist. God only knows what Walmart's junk insurance plan makes you pay to see a specialist.	Jan 10 16:55
DaemonFC	"Many top-rated Walmart hospitals - such as the Mayo and Cleveland clinics - are left out of most Obamacare exchange plans."	Jan 10 16:55
DaemonFC	A Walmart employee that makes $8 an hour is not going to the Mayo Clinic, so who gives a rat's ***? My boyfriend's ACA marketplace silver plan covers all hospitals in this area of Indiana, including Parkview, DuPont, and Lutheran.	Jan 10 16:55
DaemonFC	err, $500 a year cap, I meant	Jan 10 16:56
DaemonFC	that's not bad at all	Jan 10 16:56
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 16:59
DaemonFC	It would be better if the government could just send Walmart the bill for all of the public services their employees use, plus all of the administrative costs for running the programs.	Jan 10 16:59
DaemonFC	I have a feeling that they'd get full time hours, real health insurance, and maybe even a raise.	Jan 10 16:59
DaemonFC	I, for one, am tired of paying Hell Mart's employees when I don't even shop there.	Jan 10 16:59
MinceR	geekings	Jan 10 17:04
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2Y70QIIA0WFFL	Jan 10 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: 57% of Republicans are completely and utterly braindead. [ http://ur1.ca/gdrny ]	Jan 10 17:06
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 17:07
DaemonFC	http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/03/republican-views-on-evolution-tracking-how-its-changed/	Jan 10 17:07
DaemonFC	57% of Republicans don't believe in the fact of evolution. I guess that when they get resistant bacterial infections, they stand there and argue with the doctor that penicillin should still work because there's no such thing as evolution.	Jan 10 17:07
DaemonFC	"You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved? You ever noticed that? Eyes real close together, eyebrow ridges, big furry hands and feet. 'I believe God created me in one day'. Yeah, looks like he rushed it!"	Jan 10 17:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pewresearch.org \| Republicans’ views on evolution \| Pew Research Center [ http://ur1.ca/gdrnz ]	Jan 10 17:07
DaemonFC	-Bill Hicks	Jan 10 17:07
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 17:12
DaemonFC	I heard that Texas is keeping a braindead woman alive on life support to incubate a fetus.	Jan 10 17:12
DaemonFC	I asked why this is news. Texas has plenty of braindead people. Many of them walk around and even vote for Republicans like Rick Perry.	Jan 10 17:12
Sosumi	or Wiltard Mittens Robbery	Jan 10 17:16
MinceR	Rmoney	Jan 10 17:16
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 17:18
DaemonFC	I'm glad that the holidays are over for a while.	Jan 10 17:18
DaemonFC	You find yourself at the dinner table with these people. These people that think that America is special and that the billions of dollars that flow out of taxpayers pockets each year to Israel is an insurance policy between us and The Big Cheese. They haven't managed to notice that their standard of living has been in decline since the 70s, with a brief interruption during the 90s, while everything that was left was busy being dismantled (wh	Jan 10 17:18
DaemonFC	ich caused some economic activity in the process).	Jan 10 17:18
DaemonFC	And now, all of a sudden, it's all Obama's fault.	Jan 10 17:18
DaemonFC	Geniuses....	Jan 10 17:18
DaemonFC	I don't think that people realized what the 1990s "economic miracle" was.	Jan 10 17:21
DaemonFC	"Here. We have a job for you. Take these machines apart and load them on the truck. It's all going to Mexico!"	Jan 10 17:21
DaemonFC	On the news.... "Unemployment is down to 3.8%! Life is good. The future is bright!"	Jan 10 17:21
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 17:26
DaemonFC	And right-wingers sicken me when they say that the minimum wage of $7.25 an hour is all that a human being is worth.	Jan 10 17:26
DaemonFC	Some of them argue for repealing it completely, because they don't even feel that a human being is worth one penny every five seconds.	Jan 10 17:26
DaemonFC	When you ask them why they feel that way, they say that people who make minimum wage deserve it because they have no way of resisting or fighting back. That's what unions used to do for workers. Saying someone deserves whatever they get because they can't fight back? Sounds like someone that's trying to make an excuse for a rapist. In fact, the right-wingers do that as well.	Jan 10 17:26
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 17:29
DaemonFC	I'd like to see the "labor force" fall. It should happen faster. It will bring the pool of available workers down, fewer people will be fighting for bad jobs. If it goes far enough, wages could start rising again.	Jan 10 17:29
DaemonFC	This is one reason why it's important to not have kids.	Jan 10 17:29
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iophk	http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20140110_Snowden_downloaded_1_7M_files__Pentagon_report_concludes.html	Jan 10 18:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.philly.com \| Snowden downloaded 1.7M files, Pentagon report concludes [ http://ur1.ca/gds2j ]	Jan 10 18:04
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 18:11
DaemonFC	Calling the police because someone farted in class is a waste of police time and taxpayer money.	Jan 10 18:11
DaemonFC	Don't the police have anything better to do? Most areas of the country have some unsolved murders that they could be working on instead.	Jan 10 18:11
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 18:11
DaemonFC	I've got an idea. We slip Fiber One bars into the school lunches. Nobody in the school can stop farting. The governor declares a state of emergency and calls out the National Guard. :)	Jan 10 18:11
MinceR	it seems that the police don't have anything useful to do	Jan 10 18:12
MinceR	ever	Jan 10 18:12
DaemonFC	It does seem like that sometimes.	Jan 10 18:13
DaemonFC	Thank you for protecting us from the guy that wasn't wearing his seatbelt and had a joint in the car that he was planning to smoke later, quietly, in his own home, without bothering anyone.	Jan 10 18:14
DaemonFC	What would we ever do without our brave men and women in law enforcement?	Jan 10 18:14
iophk	http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140110/METRO01/301100080/Police-Cops-who-pulled-Cushingberry-over-wanted-arrest-him	Jan 10 18:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.detroitnews.com \| Police: Cops who pulled Cushingberry over wanted to arrest him \| The Detroit News [ http://ur1.ca/gds6p ]	Jan 10 18:17
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 18:22
DaemonFC	Does it bother anybody that Republicans that say being gay is sick and unnatural have no problem at all keeping a dead woman on life support for several months to incubate a fetus that is probably going to have severe mental retardation or physical deformities, if it even lives?	Jan 10 18:22
DaemonFC	In reply to your post on Jan 10, 2014 10:18:59 AM PST	Jan 10 18:23
DaemonFC	morehumanthanhuman says:	Jan 10 18:23
DaemonFC	Well, if she didn't want to be brain dead and pregnant on life support, she shouldn't have had sex, am I right?	Jan 10 18:23
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 18:23
DaemonFC	No personal responsibility at all! What is this beautiful country of ours coming to? :P	Jan 10 18:23
Sosumi	union pay and a protective tariff	Jan 10 18:44
Sosumi	and ofc, repudiation of the free exploitation treaties	Jan 10 18:45
Sosumi	aka, nafta	Jan 10 18:45
Sosumi	and no more 7.25$ an hour	Jan 10 18:46
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iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-administration-to-end-contract-with-cgi-federal-company-behind-healthcaregov/2014/01/10/001eb05a-719e-11e3-8b3f-b1666705ca3b_story.html	Jan 10 19:42
iophk	http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/10/white-house-switch-obamacare-contractors-healthcar/	Jan 10 19:42
iophk	http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/10/5295520/white-house-reportedly-dumps-cgi-federal-healthcare-gov	Jan 10 19:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| Obama administration to end contract with CGI Federal, company behind HealthCare.gov - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/gdst6 ]	Jan 10 19:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtontimes.com \| White House switch Obamacare contractors for HealthCare.gov - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/gdst7 ]	Jan 10 19:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theverge.com \| White House reportedly dumps main Healthcare.gov contractor \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/gdst8 ]	Jan 10 19:42
iophk	First the site is taken over by an M$ agent, who now brings in an M$ sales team to take over.	Jan 10 19:43
iophk	The new contract is not yet signed but it is a risk	Jan 10 19:43
iophk	"CGI will be replaced by Accenture as the primary contractor on Healthcare.gov."	Jan 10 19:43
iophk	"Federal health officials are preparing to sign a 12-month contract worth roughly $90 million, probably early next week, with a different company, Accenture"	Jan 10 19:44
iophk	"CMS is awarding the Accenture contract on a sole-source basis" -- another no-bid deal, a fine tradition carried over from the previous administration.	Jan 10 19:45
iophk	Accenture was the one that did in the LSE too	Jan 10 19:47
iophk	http://www.computerweekly.com/news/1280095139/London-Stock-Exchange-migrates-to-MillenniumIT-platform	Jan 10 19:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerweekly.com \| London Stock Exchange migrates to MillenniumIT platform [ http://ur1.ca/gdsuo ]	Jan 10 19:50
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/26/lse_crash_again/	Jan 10 19:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| London's stock exchange crashes again • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gdsvn ]	Jan 10 19:56
Sosumi	strange	Jan 10 20:02
Sosumi	I thought london was on redhat	Jan 10 20:02
iophk	LSE booted M$ and Accenture a while back	Jan 10 20:03
iophk	both failed too often	Jan 10 20:03
iophk	http://blogs.computerworld.com/17202/london_stock_exchange_moves_to_linux	Jan 10 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr	blogs.computerworld.com \| London Stock Exchange moves to Linux \| Computerworld Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/24wst ]	Jan 10 20:03
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 10 20:04
Sosumi	so my memory didn't fail me	Jan 10 20:04
Sosumi	:)	Jan 10 20:04
iophk	There are some interests that really want ACA to fail. So it is no surprise that they brought in a 'former' M$ staffer and less of a surprise that it brought in an M$ sales team. Probably to make it really fail they will bring in IIS and .NOT	Jan 10 20:10
iophk	all that would guarantee spectacular failure	Jan 10 20:10
iophk	and lock-in	Jan 10 20:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3498104	Jan 10 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google wants an Android in every Audi and Honda http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/ces/10553554/Google-wants-an-Android-in-every-Audi-and-Honda.html #surveillance in every car unless we can reflash with Replicant	Jan 10 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Google wants an Android in every Audi and Honda - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gdc2j ]	Jan 10 20:13
schestowitz	"@Vostok You really think it's just Audi and Honda because of the installed Android? http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1 "	Jan 10 20:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www.businessinsider.com \| Ford Exec: 'We Know Everyone Who Breaks The Law' Thanks To Our GPS In Your Car - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gdsyn ]	Jan 10 20:13
Sosumi	I think if M$ dropped the registry and all the bloat	Jan 10 20:13
iophk	and the OS itself	Jan 10 20:13
Sosumi	they'd be able to actually make winblows reliable	Jan 10 20:13
iophk	maybe if they dropped the kernel too	Jan 10 20:14
Sosumi	no idea how bad or good the winblows kernel is	Jan 10 20:14
iophk	they could restart with FreeBSD kernel and GNU user space and a tricked out KDE for the UI	Jan 10 20:14
Sosumi	and pull an apple	Jan 10 20:14
Sosumi	because that is what apple does	Jan 10 20:14
MinceR	what iophk said	Jan 10 20:14
MinceR	well, crApple could improve a lot too, if they didn't mangle FreeBSD so much	Jan 10 20:15
MinceR	if they used X instead of their useless windowing system	Jan 10 20:15
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500321	Jan 10 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Millions of fools use #amazon (close #cia partner) thinking that they get anonymous (NOT! &Microsoft-friendly) search http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/09/anonymous-search-tool-duckduckgo-1bn-queries-2013-google	Jan 10 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| Anonymous search tool DuckDuckGo answered 1bn queries in 2013 \| Technology \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdlze ]	Jan 10 20:15
schestowitz	"	Jan 10 20:15
schestowitz	The conversations I've seen with Diaspora developers never hid or denied the problems with AWS. This is one of the reasons joindiaspora is no longer taking new users.	Jan 10 20:15
schestowitz	The FAQ talks about privacy in general,	Jan 10 20:15
schestowitz	How much of my information can my pod administrator see?	Jan 10 20:15
schestowitz	... the storage of data on pods is not encrypted. If they wanted to, the database administrator for your pod (usually the person running the pod) could access all your profile data and everything that you post (as is the case for most websites that store user data). Running your own pod provides more privacy since you then control access to the database.	Jan 10 20:15
schestowitz	"	Jan 10 20:15
Sosumi	yep, windowsserver is terrible	Jan 10 20:15
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3501100	Jan 10 20:16
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: DC http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/12/Household%20Income%20DC%20vs%20US_2.jpg	Jan 10 20:16
schestowitz	"No page found.:	Jan 10 20:16
schestowitz	Need to cpy and paste the link in browser. Odd. JD bug?	Jan 10 20:16
Sosumi	and it isn't just windowserver that is terrible, but also crapple's implementation of x11	Jan 10 20:24
schestowitz	implementation?	Jan 10 20:25
schestowitz	IOr compat?	Jan 10 20:25
Sosumi	xquartz	Jan 10 20:25
schestowitz	Or lack thereof after some years back?	Jan 10 20:25
Sosumi	no, there was x11 and then crapple deprecated it into a "community maintained" version called xquartz	Jan 10 20:26
Sosumi	which means,	Jan 10 20:26
Sosumi	if with x11, bugs took a while to fix	Jan 10 20:27
Sosumi	with xquarts they take an eternity	Jan 10 20:27
Sosumi	so I don't really recommend doing any serious work with programs that require X to work on osx	Jan 10 20:28
Sosumi	chances are, it will crash and you lose your work	Jan 10 20:28
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/01/for-playstation-now-streaming-the-devils-in-the-unknown-details/	Jan 10 20:31
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| For PlayStation Now streaming, the devil’s in the unknown details \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gdt1i ]	Jan 10 20:31
Sosumi	as it looks, some ps games will play on tablets (probably only sony's)	Jan 10 20:32
Sosumi	and "smart"tvs	Jan 10 20:32
Sosumi	$ony does what micro$oftdon't	Jan 10 20:33
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iophk	http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/01/09/3860169/innovative-move-by-wwe-with-first.html	Jan 10 21:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.miamiherald.com \| Innovative move by WWE with first 24/7 live streaming service network launch - Wrestling - MiamiHerald.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdtby ]	Jan 10 21:25
iophk	leaving cable and ppv behind in the dust	Jan 10 21:26
schestowitz__	good	Jan 10 21:26
schestowitz__	it'll possibly weaken broadvcat	Jan 10 21:26
schestowitz__	i.e. brainwash	Jan 10 21:26
schestowitz__	that said, the www is being taken over by MPAA and ilk	Jan 10 21:27
schestowitz__	under Tim B-L's watch	Jan 10 21:27
schestowitz__	and net neutrality is on its death throes	Jan 10 21:27
iophk	Is he still boosting DRM despite once promoting the open WWW?	Jan 10 21:27
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500745	Jan 10 21:28
TechrightsBot-tr	@psychonot@pod.orkz.net: Been busting @{Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ; schestowitz@joindiaspora.com}'s balls all day (mainly because we disagree on a lot) but all in all my thread would not be what it is without him.	Jan 10 21:28
iophk	How long will HBO remain on cable?	Jan 10 21:28
schestowitz__	"Also Roy I thought you might be interested in this whonix@pod.orkz.net"	Jan 10 21:28
schestowitz__	iophk: he welcomed MPAA to W3C	Jan 10 21:28
schestowitz__	I thought you had heard	Jan 10 21:28
schestowitz__	Big news some days ago	Jan 10 21:28
iophk	I missed that. I just knew about the DRM	Jan 10 21:28
schestowitz__	!google mpaa w3c	Jan 10 21:28
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Not Cool: MPAA Joins The W3C \| Techdirt \| http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140107/11263425789/not-cool-mpaa-joins-w3c.shtml	Jan 10 21:28
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - The MPAA just joined the W3C, what could possibly go wrong ... \| http://www.geek.com/apps/the-mpaa-just-joined-the-w3c-what-could-possibly-go-wrong-1581563/	Jan 10 21:28
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Not Cool: MPAA Joins The W3C : technology - Reddit \| http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1unig0/not_cool_mpaa_joins_the_w3c/	Jan 10 21:28
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - MPAA joins W3C, giving it a voice on the future of the web - AfterDawn \| http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2014/01/08/mpaa_joins_w3c_giving_it_a_voice_on_the_future_of_the_web	Jan 10 21:28
iophk	ouch ouch ouch	Jan 10 21:29
schestowitz__	!google mpaa install spyware on pc	Jan 10 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - RIAA/MPAA Want Government-Mandated Spyware That Deletes ... \| http://gizmodo.com/5517850/riaampaa-want-government%2Bmandated-spyware-that-deletes-infringing-content-automatically	Jan 10 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Protecting Your PC - University of Wisconsin - Green Bay \| http://www.uwgb.edu/resnet/protectYourPC.htm	Jan 10 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Hotfile ordered to pay damages, install copyright ... - PC Advisor \| http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/internet/3492128/hotfile-ordered-to-pay-damages-install-copyright-filtering-says-mpaa/	Jan 10 21:29
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Dell's Twitter Account Apologizes For The 'Inconvenience' Of ... \| http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131230/17174425718/dells-twitter-account-apologizes-inconvenience-helping-nsa-place-hidden-bios-bug.shtml	Jan 10 21:29
iophk	http://ces.cnet.com/8301-35296_1-57616860/mpaa-joins-web-standards-group-amid-video-drm-dispute/	Jan 10 21:30
TechrightsBot-tr	ces.cnet.com \| MPAA joins Web standards group amid video DRM dispute \| CES 2014: Home Theater and Audio - CNET Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/gdtcp ]	Jan 10 21:30
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 22:00
DaemonFC	I'm glad that I'm not a woman. I don't mean that as disrespect to women. I'm just glad that I don't have those particular body parts that "small government Republicans that want to get government out of your healthcare" are so hell bent on regulating.	Jan 10 22:00
Sosumi	remember those sony published music cds that forced you to install a built program in order to play the files?	Jan 10 22:06
Sosumi	and that the program was easily exploitable?	Jan 10 22:06
Sosumi	I think something also happened with some sony usb keys	Jan 10 22:06
Sosumi	but it is around the same thing the copywrong cartel wants	Jan 10 22:07
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Sosumi	and actually, the windows smartscreen is kind of exactly that	Jan 10 22:08
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Sosumi	sending to m$ all the stuff that you open and install into your computer	Jan 10 22:08
Sosumi	M$ could just expand the functionality to allow "content holders" a feed on which media files you have on your hdd	Jan 10 22:10
Sosumi	basically an audit	Jan 10 22:11
Sosumi	and let them choose either to delete said files or not	Jan 10 22:11
MinceR	http://p.coldline.hu/2014/01/10/1309468-20140110-oHMmxJ.jpg	Jan 10 22:21
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 22:47
DaemonFC	I liked that moment when Wolf Blitzer walked through the wreckage of an Oklahoma town where everyone was thanking god for just killing their neighbors and not them.	Jan 10 22:47
DaemonFC	He walked up to a woman and asked her if she was thankful to god. She says "I'm an atheist.".	Jan 10 22:47
DaemonFC	That awkward moment when you're a presumptuous cock....	Jan 10 22:47
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA2fRyllDSE	Jan 10 22:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Ha! Wolf Blitzer Asks Atheist Tornado Survivor If She 'Thanked The Lord' - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtmu ]	Jan 10 22:47
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MinceR	lol	Jan 10 22:50
MinceR	in their thoroughly warped worldview, not being killed in every single moment is a special mercy from a god who they somehow believe to be good	Jan 10 22:51
DaemonFC	It's OK as long as he's only killing the neighbors.	Jan 10 22:54
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 10 22:54
DaemonFC	They probably did something to deserve it.	Jan 10 22:55
MinceR	yeah	Jan 10 22:55
DaemonFC	I am practically perfect in every way!	Jan 10 22:55
DaemonFC	My shit smells like freshly baked cinnamon rolls.	Jan 10 22:55
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 10 22:55
Sosumi	but that doesn't mean that in another dimension they were killed	Jan 10 22:56
Sosumi	and there, they are dead	Jan 10 22:56
Sosumi	remember, the cat is both alive and dead	Jan 10 22:57
MinceR	the many-worlds interpretation is way too complex for someone who deeply believes in an abrahamic religion to understand :>	Jan 10 22:57
Sosumi	but I believe in QUANTUM IMMORTALITY!!!	Jan 10 22:57
Sosumi	:P	Jan 10 22:57
MinceR	it would also conflict with their belief that they're so damn special	Jan 10 22:57
MinceR	(well, they're special, just not in the way they think)	Jan 10 22:57
MinceR	Sosumi: but do you believe in Quantum Success?	Jan 10 22:57
Sosumi	in which everytime I were to die, an alternative timeline would generate in which I'm dead	Jan 10 22:58
Sosumi	and I would still be alive in here	Jan 10 22:58
DaemonFC	MinceR, Consciousness is an emergent property. It just hasn't emerged fully in those people.	Jan 10 22:59
Sosumi	I was just, kind of trolling	Jan 10 22:59
Sosumi	but	Jan 10 22:59
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-wAaBoW408	Jan 10 22:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Night Springs: A Quantum Suicide - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtp9 ]	Jan 10 22:59
Sosumi	from the game alan wake	Jan 10 23:00
Sosumi	the game itself was kind of okeish	Jan 10 23:01
Sosumi	but the night springs episodes were kind of good	Jan 10 23:02
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdM7Qk59c08	Jan 10 23:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Night Springs - Never-before-seen Episode "The Doomed Samaritan" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtqf ]	Jan 10 23:07
Sosumi	another favourite of mine	Jan 10 23:07
DaemonFC	I'm not sure how I got on your mailing list.	Jan 10 23:13
DaemonFC	I'm not a Republican, and I prefer not to get spammed by the swine that presume to rule us.	Jan 10 23:13
DaemonFC	Please remove me from your mailing list immediately.	Jan 10 23:13
DaemonFC	Thank you,	Jan 10 23:13
Sosumi	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCB1ac4jIrE#t=66	Jan 10 23:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Xbox One (Sign Out Trolling) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtr3 ]	Jan 10 23:14
DaemonFC	I sent that to the Indiana House Republican webmaster.	Jan 10 23:14
Sosumi	when you have an always listening mic, that is what happens	Jan 10 23:15
DaemonFC	"You need flash player"	Jan 10 23:16
Sosumi	meh	Jan 10 23:16
Sosumi	trashplayer	Jan 10 23:16
DaemonFC	It was actually nice outside today compared to earlier this week.	Jan 10 23:21
DaemonFC	The temperature came up 55 degrees and ended up at 38.	Jan 10 23:22
DaemonFC	Tropical heat wave compared to the polar vortex.	Jan 10 23:22
Sosumi	well, it is good that you didn't end up buried under the snow	Jan 10 23:25
Sosumi	like it tends to happen in countries like ukraine	Jan 10 23:26
Sosumi	and so on	Jan 10 23:26
Sosumi	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17036988	Jan 10 23:27
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - Man digs through snow to find house in Romania [ http://ur1.ca/86prf ]	Jan 10 23:27
Sosumi	also happens to smaller homes in the "serra da estrela" area	Jan 10 23:27
Sosumi	but this year has been relatively ok	Jan 10 23:28
Sosumi	not that much rain compared to last year	Jan 10 23:28
Sosumi	last year there were in days in which you woke up downpouring and went to bed still downpouring	Jan 10 23:29
Sosumi	and at one time it went just like that through an entire week	Jan 10 23:30
Sosumi	the night springs videos work without flash	Jan 10 23:45
Sosumi	the xbox one doesn't	Jan 10 23:45
Sosumi	just saw	Jan 10 23:45
Sosumi	should have looked before posting :(	Jan 10 23:46
Sosumi	http://rt.com/politics/russia-gay-crime-referendum-401/	Jan 10 23:47
Sosumi	lol	Jan 10 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gdtux ]	Jan 10 23:47
Sosumi	"Top Russian cleric seeks nationwide referendum on criminalizing male homosexuality"	Jan 10 23:47
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Sosumi	tell top russian cleric to re-allocate to the KSA	Jan 10 23:47
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 00:23
DaemonFC	Very few children have real potential. I know that will make a lot of parents angry, but it's true. What happens in most cases is that it's just another person that has to fight three other people for the same job that doesn't pay the bills. Then they mess up and have "little blessings" of their own.	Jan 11 00:23
DaemonFC	DCSports says:	Jan 11 00:26
DaemonFC	It's pretty clear the pro-abortion advocates are the ones seeking to make a political issue of this, and are the ones coming up with sick ideas. That's especially amazing, considering it's not an abortion issue.	Jan 11 00:26
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 00:26
DaemonFC	I'm not the one that came up with the sick, unnatural idea to play god and keep a dead woman on life support for several months to incubate a damaged fetus.	Jan 11 00:26
DaemonFC	That was the state of Texas and the "pro-life" cult.	Jan 11 00:26
DaemonFC	And they say I'm the one that is defiling nature... Got news for you. Homosexuality happens in all kinds of animals besides humans. Nowhere in nature does a corpse incubate a fetus for several months and then give birth.	Jan 11 00:26
DaemonFC	In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2014 4:22:13 PM PST	Jan 11 00:29
DaemonFC	NeoPaganBaby says:	Jan 11 00:29
DaemonFC	Yes, it's more of a Frankenstein issue.	Jan 11 00:29
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 00:30
DaemonFC	The only thing that's missing from this pro-life moment are the jumper cables and the lightning bolts.	Jan 11 00:30
DaemonFC	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Zimbabwe_fourth_dollar_-_%24500_Obverse_%282009%29.jpg	Jan 11 00:43
DaemonFC	By the time they ceased to pass as currency, they were more valuable as toilet paper.	Jan 11 00:44
DaemonFC	"In the Guardian, on 18 July 2008, a report on Zimbabwe's inflation, said that an egg costs Z$50 billion (GBP 0.17, USD 0.32)"	Jan 11 00:48
DaemonFC	LOL	Jan 11 00:48
DaemonFC	MinceR, Now I feel bad. I left the eggs in the back of the refrigerator and four of them burst.	Jan 11 00:49
DaemonFC	I destroyed $200 billion worth of eggs.	Jan 11 00:49
DaemonFC	(Zimbabwe Dollars)	Jan 11 00:49
MinceR	:>	Jan 11 00:49
DaemonFC	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Zimbabwe_Hyperinflation_2008_notes.jpg	Jan 11 00:50
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 02:52
DaemonFC	If everybody has a right to life, then why does everyone die?	Jan 11 02:52
DaemonFC	I know that the declaration of independence says everyone has a right to life, but the people that wrote that are all dead, so I guess they were wrong.	Jan 11 02:52
qu1j0t3	hrhr	Jan 11 02:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Announcing Apache CloudStack 4.2.1	Jan 11 02:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3IB498YGCA	Jan 11 02:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gduv4	Jan 11 02:57
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Announcing Apache CloudStack 4.2.1 \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 02:57
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 03:30
DaemonFC	I paid off the last of my debt a few years ago. I've been careful not to make any more. It's easier when you're actually being paid.	Jan 11 03:30
DaemonFC	Pro tip: Don't try making money at Walmart. It pays dick. You'll probably starve.	Jan 11 03:30
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 03:36
DaemonFC	Oh, there's this program you can use on your phone when you become root. It can disable system processes. You just click to stop the "Pull ads" process, and nothing can download advertisements anymore. It's ****ing awesome.	Jan 11 03:36
DaemonFC	Or Adblock Plus can do that too, but you have to be rooted for it to filter your mobile data. Unrooted, it can only filter wifi data. (If you don't want to root your phone, but don't want to see web ads in your browser on mobile, you can install the Adblock Edge Firefox extension...)	Jan 11 03:36
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 11 03:49
DaemonFC	Speaking of buying software licenses..... Specifically, how dumb it usually is to do that....	Jan 11 03:49
DaemonFC	When Sun Microsystems decided that they needed an office suite for every employee in their company, they figured out what it would cost to purchase one license for the current version of Microsoft Office for every employee, and then they decided to buy an entire company that made an office suite called Star Office because it was cheaper to buy an entire company than to do business with Microsoft.	Jan 11 03:49
DaemonFC	They eventually made it free (as in Freedom) and there's this thing called LibreOffice now. You might have heard of it. It's quite good. :)	Jan 11 03:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox OS: The Return of Microsoft’s Netscape	Jan 11 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	Fears http://t.co/iGpu7DgXXD	Jan 11 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdx0c	Jan 11 09:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Firefox OS: The Return of Microsoft’s Netscape Fears \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 09:25
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iophk	http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/01/10/lawmakers-to-holder-inconsistencies-in-reports-of-swartz-prosecution-require-serious-responses/	Jan 11 10:24
iophk	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/eric-holder-aaron-swartz_n_4576570.html	Jan 11 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr	pjmedia.com \| The PJ Tatler » Lawmakers to Holder: ‘Inconsistencies’ in Reports of Swartz Prosecution ‘Require Serious Responses’ [ http://ur1.ca/gdx9v ]	Jan 11 10:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.huffingtonpost.com \| Eric Holder Criticized On Anniversary Of Aaron Swartz Death [ http://ur1.ca/gdx9w ]	Jan 11 10:24
iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/01/09/prosecutors-used-this-cybercrime-law-against-aaron-swartz-now-a-senator-wants-to-strengthen-it/	Jan 11 10:28
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| Prosecutors used this cybercrime law against Aaron Swartz. Now a senator wants to strengthen it. [ http://ur1.ca/gdxak ]	Jan 11 10:28
iophk	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/lawrence-lessig-aaron-swa_n_4577917.html	Jan 11 10:30
iophk	http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/why-were-marching-across-new-hampshire-to-honor-aaron-swartz/282962/	Jan 11 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.huffingtonpost.com \| Lawrence Lessig Walking Across New Hampshire In Memory Of Aaron Swartz [ http://ur1.ca/gdxat ]	Jan 11 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theatlantic.com \| Why We're Marching Across New Hampshire to Honor Aaron Swartz - Lawrence Lessig - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/gdruh ]	Jan 11 10:30
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iophk	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/noam-chomsky-aaron-swartz-mit_n_4577163.html	Jan 11 10:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.huffingtonpost.com \| Noam Chomsky: MIT Shares Blame For Aaron Swartz Tragedy [ http://ur1.ca/gdxbv ]	Jan 11 10:36
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iophk	a lot of articles slamming Snowden of late	Jan 11 13:45
iophk	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/world/europe/eu-panel-invites-snowden.html	Jan 11 13:45
iophk	http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/opinion/op_ed/2014/01/snowden_s_leaks_betray_freedom_democracy	Jan 11 13:45
iophk	http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304347904579310813434692676	Jan 11 13:45
TechrightsBot-tr	myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gdy84 ]	Jan 11 13:45
TechrightsBot-tr	bostonherald.com \| Snowden’s leaks betray freedom, democracy \| Boston Herald [ http://ur1.ca/gdy85 ]	Jan 11 13:45
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Snowden's Damage - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdy86 ]	Jan 11 13:45
iophk	www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/01/09/261115874/the-fbis-comey-on-snowden-confused-by-hero-talk	Jan 11 13:46
iophk	a little more positive one	Jan 11 13:57
iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2014/01/07/jesse-the-mind-ventura-snowden-a-patriot-hero/	Jan 11 13:57
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Jesse 'The Mind' Ventura: Snowden A Patriot, Hero - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gdycu ]	Jan 11 13:57
MinceR	geekings	Jan 11 14:03
iophk	http://www.drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/open-standards-in-computing-wolves-in-sh/240164892	Jan 11 14:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.drdobbs.com \| Open Standards in Computing: Wolves in Sheep's Clothing \| Dr Dobb's [ http://ur1.ca/gdyeh ]	Jan 11 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Support Is Priority Over Streaming For	Jan 11 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	Steam Machines http://t.co/C1218nAVia	Jan 11 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdykh	Jan 11 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Support Is Priority Over Streaming For Steam Machines \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bitcoin is the Linux of payments. And its	Jan 11 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	killer apps will be for US dollars	Jan 11 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GJ6KtfFFte	Jan 11 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Bitcoin is the Linux of payments. And its killer apps will be for US dollars \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdyki	Jan 11 14:36
iophk	http://www.ibtimes.com/att-says-sponsored-data-doesnt-violate-net-neutrality-internet-advocates-argue-mobile-practices-are	Jan 11 14:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.com \| AT&T Says Sponsored Data Doesn't Violate Net Neutrality: Internet Advocates Argue Mobile Practices Are Unfair [ http://ur1.ca/gdymq ]	Jan 11 14:45
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/trewgrip-handheld-keyboard-almost-a-solution-for-thumb-typing/	Jan 11 15:04
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| TrewGrip handheld keyboard almost a solution for thumb-typing \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gdyqd ]	Jan 11 15:04
Sosumi	it even allows you to transform into a power ranger	Jan 11 15:04
Sosumi	and call megazord	Jan 11 15:04
Sosumi	but that'd be great for solving the problem of actual typing on tablets	Jan 11 15:05
Sosumi	specially if the said tablet runs a full desktop OS	Jan 11 15:06
Sosumi	and you just don't want a virtual kb cluttering everything	Jan 11 15:07
Sosumi	looks like driving wheel too	Jan 11 15:07
Sosumi	probably for megazord	Jan 11 15:08
MinceR	:>	Jan 11 15:21
MinceR	http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/20/nsa-internet-security-rsa-secret-10m-encryption	Jan 11 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| $10m NSA contract with security firm RSA led to encryption 'back door' \| World news \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/g8d0y ]	Jan 11 15:48
sebsebseb	iophk: FOSDEM looks like it's going to be really awesome	Jan 11 16:22
sebsebseb	good job I booked the hotel yesterday, they only had two singles left	Jan 11 16:22
iophk	great	Jan 11 16:22
iophk	you're all set now	Jan 11 16:22
sebsebseb	yep	Jan 11 16:22
iophk	reserve a keg?	Jan 11 16:22
sebsebseb	a what?	Jan 11 16:23
iophk	put a deposit on a keg for the party	Jan 11 16:23
sebsebseb	hmm	Jan 11 16:23
sebsebseb	?	Jan 11 16:23
iophk	50 liters or so	Jan 11 16:24
iophk	there are a lot of tracks, how do you pick the interesting talks?	Jan 11 16:29
sebsebseb	iophk: easy enough	Jan 11 16:35
sebsebseb	I base it on how technical something i	Jan 11 16:35
sebsebseb	s	Jan 11 16:35
sebsebseb	usaully	Jan 11 16:35
sebsebseb	iophk: a lot of talks are a bit to technical for me really so make it eaier	Jan 11 16:35
iophk	have you selected anything as must-see?	Jan 11 16:35
sebsebseb	when I looked last I was looking at legal issues dev room	Jan 11 16:36
sebsebseb	and thinking interesting	Jan 11 16:36
iophk	https://fosdem.org/2014/schedule/track/legal_and_policy_issues/	Jan 11 16:36
TechrightsBot-tr	fosdem.org \| FOSDEM 2014 - Legal and policy issues devroom [ http://ur1.ca/gdz50 ]	Jan 11 16:36
iophk	I guess they'll have the video online sometime soon after the event.	Jan 11 16:40
sebsebseb	only for some things	Jan 11 16:42
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iophk	http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/09/nintendo-picks-up-patent-portfolio-from-defunct-exergaming-company-ia-labs/	Jan 11 19:31
TechrightsBot-tr	venturebeat.com \| Nintendo picks up patent portfolio from defunct 'exergaming' company IA Labs \| GamesBeat \| Games \| by Jeff Grubb [ http://ur1.ca/ge0zu ]	Jan 11 19:31
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Sosumi	so now nintendo can finally turn the WII U into the ultimate game gear	Jan 11 20:00
Sosumi	or the ultimate vectrex	Jan 11 20:01
Sosumi	WII U the only console that can be portable but needs AC in order to work	Jan 11 20:02
Sosumi	yet it can still run out of batteries	Jan 11 20:02
Sosumi	I hope it accepts overlays too	Jan 11 20:05
Sosumi	it couldn't be the ultimate vectrex without that	Jan 11 20:05
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3506347	Jan 11 20:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Make a LiveUSB stick with #windows and start using #Linux http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/make-liveusb-stick-windows-start-using-linux/19157 vanish from the #NSA sight and dodge back doors	Jan 11 20:05
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Make a LiveUSB stick with windows and start using Linux \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/ge1hr ]	Jan 11 20:05
roy_	"	Jan 11 20:05
Sosumi	or it would end up in, "vectrex does what nintendon't"	Jan 11 20:05
roy_	I just did this: sudo dd if=linuxmint-16-cinnamon-dvd-64bit.iso of=/dev/sdb , where /dev/sdb was a blank 8GB SD card, inserted but unmounted...	Jan 11 20:05
roy_	It worked once I stopped trying to boot the target system off another SD card full of old pictures on a FAT32 filesystem. Those SD cards are little, and it's hard to tell them apart :-)	Jan 11 20:05
roy_	"	Jan 11 20:06
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3506258	Jan 11 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Meet Korora 20 – It's like Fedora, but Better http://news.softpedia.com/news/Meet-Korora-20-It-s-Like-Fedora-But-Better-415481.shtml #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux #korora	Jan 11 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Meet Korora 20 – It's like Fedora, but Better [ http://ur1.ca/ge1hz ]	Jan 11 20:06
roy_	"Fusion did this really well a few years back. I tried Korora in the summer, it seemed okay, but like all of this "with tweaks" distros, they better be Mint-level of support, because they break very quickly, especially the way Fedora releases broken shit."	Jan 11 20:06
iophk	http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/756662-linux-video-of-the-week-matthew-garrett-argues-for-better-security-in-2014	Jan 11 20:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.linux.com \| Linux Video of the Week: Matthew Garrett Argues for Better Security in 2014 \| Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/ge1s3 ]	Jan 11 20:26
iophk	"He defended verified boot schemes as one method for protecting the software stack at its root."	Jan 11 20:27
iophk	"UEFI Secure Boot “is one of the rare cases where I'm going to say Microsoft did the right thing for user freedom,” he said"	Jan 11 20:27
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roy_	iophk: thanks for the links	Jan 11 20:30
roy_	i have posted all of them in some social networks	Jan 11 20:30
roy_	very good picks	Jan 11 20:30
iophk	thanks	Jan 11 20:30
roy_	and I posted about the healthcare.gov news, see FP of TR	Jan 11 20:30
iophk	I've been following the feed only lately	Jan 11 20:31
roy_	saves lots of legwork and research, the items most relevant to us just a click away	Jan 11 20:31
roy_	[20:27] <iophk> "UEFI Secure Boot “is one of the rare cases where I'm going to say Microsoft did the right thing for user freedom,” he said"	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	Stanage concept of freedom	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	Ballmer is choking on a baby reading it	Jan 11 20:32
iophk	yes, it seemslike double talk	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	He makes anti-Linux mechanism and some dude who writes code for Linux says ballmer champions "freedom"	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	Not just "choice"..	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	Freedom, the f word	Jan 11 20:32
roy_	While wearing an RMS-lookalike shift	Jan 11 20:33
roy_	*shirt	Jan 11 20:33
roy_	FSF hates UEFI	Jan 11 20:33
roy_	See the other link from Aussie news	Jan 11 20:33
roy_	His talk turned into MS marketing	Jan 11 20:33
roy_	They love this guy, the Microsoft boosters in sites like ZDnet use him to call UEFI opposers "fanatics" or something	Jan 11 20:33
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schestowitz	http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140107/18092725793/dianne-feinstein-admits-that-her-nsa-reform-bill-is-about-protecting-existing-surveillance-programs.shtml	Jan 11 20:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.techdirt.com \| Dianne Feinstein Admits That Her 'NSA Reform' Bill Is About Protecting Existing Surveillance Programs \| Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/ge1vv ]	Jan 11 20:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507651	Jan 11 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fbi shows which side it's on, and it's not the people's, it's the oligarchs' http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/01/09/261115874/the-fbis-comey-on-snowden-confused-by-hero-talk	Jan 11 20:36
schestowitz	"hmm...at least Putin's FSB had the balls to lock up the oligarchs when they plundered the state. If this information is correct about the FBI, then, well, they aren't doing their job right !"	Jan 11 20:36
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.npr.org \| FBI Director 'Confused' By Reports Calling Snowden A Hero : The Two-Way : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/ge1wf ]	Jan 11 20:36
iophk	Speaking of Putin / Russia, there has been no follow up in the news about the latest M$ bribery scandal in Russia. There was some in the summer but no action since.	Jan 11 20:37
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Sosumi	<iophk> "UEFI Secure Boot “is one of the rare cases where I'm going to say Microsoft did the right thing for user freedom,” he said"	Jan 11 20:42
Sosumi	by taking, unnecessary freedom, you maintain freedom	Jan 11 20:43
Sosumi	that 1984 dialectic	Jan 11 20:43
Sosumi	*is	Jan 11 20:43
iophk	newspeak	Jan 11 20:43
MinceR	o_O	Jan 11 20:43
iophk	War Is Peace, Freedom Is Slavery, Ignorance Is Strength, etc	Jan 11 20:44
MinceR	the wrong thing is the right thing	Jan 11 20:44
MinceR	(apparently)	Jan 11 20:44
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Sosumi	can I say, in order to have everlasting peace you need perpetual to maintain that peace	Jan 11 20:44
Sosumi	*perpetual war	Jan 11 20:45
Sosumi	orwelian dialectic	Jan 11 20:45
iophk	maybe he is opposed to actual freedom so in his mind M$ really did the right thing by helping take it away.	Jan 11 20:46
Sosumi	aka maintain the status quo	Jan 11 20:46
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/11/cicada_3301_2014/	Jan 11 20:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| Cicada 3301: The web's most baffling and eerie crypto-puzzle is BACK • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/ge20y ]	Jan 11 20:47
MinceR	:>	Jan 11 20:48
Sosumi	it is like saying, if they don't know any better freedom, they'll not care for the real freedom	Jan 11 20:48
Sosumi	and to make that sure, there's a limitation	Jan 11 20:49
Sosumi	that must be overcome, secure boot	Jan 11 20:49
Sosumi	outside of all this	Jan 11 20:50
Sosumi	I just don't get why I can't sign my own keys	Jan 11 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 20 Officially Released for IBM System z	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	64-Bit http://t.co/bKRivYPdI3	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2db	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Huawei Unveils Android-Based Tron Game Console	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7xErGVGLya	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2dc	Jan 11 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 20 Officially Released for IBM System z 64-Bit \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Novena whips up an open source laptop from	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	scratch http://t.co/zle5TOYAJX	Jan 11 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Huawei Unveils Android-Based Tron Game Console \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2dd	Jan 11 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Novena whips up an open source laptop from scratch \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Siduction 2013.2 review http://t.co/tTyFceaF17	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2de	Jan 11 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Siduction 2013.2 review \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open-source competition for Android, iOS	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pDl3s77COg	Jan 11 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2df	Jan 11 21:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Open-source competition for Android, iOS \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 21:19
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schestowitz	[20:37] <iophk> Speaking of Putin / Russia, there has been no follow up in the news about the latest M$ bribery scandal in Russia. There was some in the summer but no action since.	Jan 11 21:27
schestowitz	Maybe the DOj got bribed again :-)	Jan 11 21:27
schestowitz	[20:46] <iophk> maybe he is opposed to actual freedom so in his mind M$ really did the right thing by helping take it away.	Jan 11 21:28
schestowitz	Maybe Garrett is a neo-'libertarian'	Jan 11 21:28
schestowitz	Give MICROSOFT the freedom, de-regulate	Jan 11 21:28
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Sosumi	de-regulation doesn't work	Jan 11 21:33
Sosumi	in fact it even allows the formation of cartels, price fixing any other kind of dirty trick you can come up to	Jan 11 21:34
MinceR	well, it works for the big bad guys	Jan 11 21:34
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Sosumi	and probably even allowing the corporation to be the actual gov	Jan 11 21:35
Sosumi	wait, that is what is already happening	Jan 11 21:35
Sosumi	so, regulate and regulate it properly	Jan 11 21:36
Sosumi	absolute gluttony must be kept well regulated for the wealth and survival of the nation	Jan 11 21:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3504304	Jan 11 21:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #internet is seriously dying. #surveillance , tiered Web, #w3c promoting #drm and welcoming #mpaa that advocates back doors in all PCs.	Jan 11 21:57
schestowitz	"Naah. Everything can be moved into Tor or I2P type networks if there's enough will. Money is already moving into P2P, so it's only natural progression that communications shall do it too."	Jan 11 21:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507886	Jan 11 21:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: For this caturday...<BR>	Jan 11 21:57
schestowitz	"Oy I would not to try and fight this beast in the wild..."	Jan 11 21:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507641	Jan 11 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Portfolio" of photocopies. Wow! "Innovation" http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/09/nintendo-picks-up-patent-portfolio-from-defunct-exergaming-company-ia-labs/	Jan 11 21:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> venturebeat.com \| Nintendo picks up patent portfolio from defunct 'exergaming' company IA Labs \| GamesBeat \| Games \| by Jeff Grubb [ http://ur1.ca/ge0zu ]	Jan 11 21:58
schestowitz	"Nintendo is increasingly looking like the companies that profit from corruption. Nintendo está cada vez mais parecendo as empresas que lucram com a corrupção."	Jan 11 21:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04.4 Officially Arrives on February 6	Jan 11 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FhLRJnVvPW	Jan 11 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2uv	Jan 11 22:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 12.04.4 Officially Arrives on February 6 \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 22:02
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DaemonFC	not bad	Jan 05 00:42
qu1j0t3	you sound surprised	Jan 05 00:42
DaemonFC	never heard of them before	Jan 05 00:43
DaemonFC	That high fiber cereal that ALDI sells is actually kind of good.	Jan 05 03:49
DaemonFC	Most of the high fiber stuff is like eating cardboard.	Jan 05 03:49
DaemonFC	They managed to spruce it up a bit with raisins, cranberries, pecans, and almonds.	Jan 05 03:49
DaemonFC	The wind chill will be -40 this evening.	Jan 05 03:51
DaemonFC	There's something disturbing about the Fahrenheit and Celsius scales agreeing with each other.	Jan 05 03:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/sense_amr/status/419704074921984001	Jan 05 04:45
TechrightsBot-tr	@sense_amr: @EllieAsksWhy @schestowitz im usually giving props to people i know	Jan 05 04:45
schestowitz	"I really wish JoinDiaspora.com wasn't running on Amazon..."	Jan 05 04:45
schestowitz	Indeed	Jan 05 04:45
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482618	Jan 05 04:46
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: AMAZONS $600 million contract with CIA is a conflict http://www.4-traders.com/AMAZONCOM-INC-12864605/news/Amazoncom-Inc--United-States--AMAZONS-600-million-contract-with-CIA-is-a-conflict-of-interest-17750524/ "Jeff Bezos purchased the Washington Post for $250 million"	Jan 05 04:46
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.4-traders.com \| Amazon.com, Inc. : United States : AMAZONS $600 million contract with CIA is a conflict of interest \| 4-Traders [ http://ur1.ca/gc83l ]	Jan 05 04:46
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481120	Jan 05 04:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Android will power Audi cars http://www.muktware.com/2013/12/android-will-power-audi-cars/18470 #audi #linux #android	Jan 05 04:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Android will power Audi cars » Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gc089 ]	Jan 05 04:48
schestowitz	"It's scary how close we've come to a total surveillance society."	Jan 05 04:48
schestowitz	It has gogtten so bad that e ven when you assume the person next to you is not an informant you may wonder what device on this person makes that person unwittingly an informant, .eg.. a cellphone.	Jan 05 04:49
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #android #linux on device "180-gram weight, and	Jan 05 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	IP67 water- and dustproofing."	Jan 05 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7L0TsjvzsY	Jan 05 04:52
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TechrightsBot-tr	linuxgizmos.com \| Rugged Android phone surprisingly thin, light · LinuxGizmos.com	Jan 05 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Here’s a look at the three key developments in	Jan 05 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	open source in 2013:" http://t.co/m0QQQiRXze	Jan 05 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #sharing	Jan 05 04:56
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.linux.com \| Open Computing Accelerated Sharply in 2013 \| Linux.com	Jan 05 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #DreamWorks will release its own 'Dreamtab'	Jan 05 05:00
TweetTuxMachines	Android tablet this spring	Jan 05 05:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DZgt2XS7AV not following #apple and	Jan 05 05:00
TweetTuxMachines	#jobs anymore	Jan 05 05:00
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theverge.com \| DreamWorks will release its own 'Dreamtab' Android tablet this spring \| The Verge	Jan 05 05:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz A New Open-Source Game Engine Being Released	Jan 05 05:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3vtb05EJNE maybe a future of	Jan 05 05:04
TweetTuxMachines	free/libre games (as standard) possible	Jan 05 05:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] A New Open-Source Game Engine Being Released	Jan 05 05:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz New Year's Resolutions for SysAdmins	Jan 05 05:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Op5TPljvP3 mostly	Jan 05 05:06
TweetTuxMachines	UNIX/Linux-oriented	Jan 05 05:06
TechrightsBot-tr	www.usenix.org \| New Year's Resolutions for SysAdmins \| USENIX	Jan 05 05:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Michael Morell (CIA), writing about the group	Jan 05 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	he's in, tries to pretend nothing is amiss in	Jan 05 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	#nsa http://t.co/x6q8SWRFHR #whitewash	Jan 05 05:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Michael Morell promoted torture. What position	Jan 05 05:11
TweetTuxMachines	is he really in when it comes to ethics	Jan 05 05:11
TweetTuxMachines	committees? #cia #humanrights #abuse	Jan 05 05:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Why aren't more members of Congress complaining	Jan 05 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	about #nsa ? Well, maybe they're afraid. NSA	Jan 05 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	can oust them. http://t.co/cZnOSLzYr2	Jan 05 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc87y	Jan 05 05:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Senator Bernie Sanders’s letter to #NSA	Jan 05 05:15
TweetTuxMachines	director dated January 3, 2014	Jan 05 05:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/j7zyhjYy7Q he's already thoroughly	Jan 05 05:15
TweetTuxMachines	demonised	Jan 05 05:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc887	Jan 05 05:15
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz This new pro- #drones piece from the #nytimes	Jan 05 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	omits the fact that #fbi already flies drones	Jan 05 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	across the US, admits it http://t.co/JBYdbYtFzh	Jan 05 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc88u	Jan 05 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Drones will soon be buzzing over every city in	Jan 05 05:21
TweetTuxMachines	America." http://t.co/7cBBvHFT4M Soon? They	Jan 05 05:21
TweetTuxMachines	already are, in most cities.	Jan 05 05:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc88y	Jan 05 05:21
schestowitz	http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jan/05/scott-stossel-my-age-anxiety-extract	Jan 05 05:25
schestowitz	"Not everyone gets overwhelmed by anxiety. My wife, for one, does not. (Thank God.) Barack Obama, by all accounts, does not. Nor, evidently, does David Petraeus, the former commander of US forces in Afghanistan and former director of the CIA: he once told a reporter that despite being in jobs where the day-to-day stakes are a matter of life and death, he "rarely feels stress at all". "	Jan 05 05:25
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Americans who volunteered to distribute books	Jan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	in Russia didn’t know the CIA paid for the	Jan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	printing." http://t.co/VvUWXAG769 cannon fodder	Jan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc89g	Jan 05 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "open-ended permanent wars..." #NDAA	Jan 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines	"authorizes over $600 billion for global	Jan 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines	belligerence, mass killing"	Jan 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lqHb3RBFcQ	Jan 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc89l	Jan 05 05:28
schestowitz	business insider continues to smear wikileaks and snowden	Jan 05 05:30
schestowitz	http://www.businessinsider.com/edward-snowden-and-wikileaks-2014-1	Jan 05 05:30
schestowitz	pretending there is some collusion	Jan 05 05:31
schestowitz	dating back to pre-leaks days	Jan 05 05:31
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "Julian Assange... denounced the Catholic	Jan 05 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	Church's confessional system as a means to spy"	Jan 05 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KHnOgid3av	Jan 05 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc89z	Jan 05 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Pierre Omidyar... "cut Wikileaks off at the	Jan 05 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	financial knees in its hour of greatest peril"	Jan 05 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9cCa1KWCWH	Jan 05 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8a8	Jan 05 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Eilis O'Hanlon: No need for secrecy on State	Jan 05 05:38
TweetTuxMachines	soup http://t.co/Gf8OZDGOsF Iron Lady dead now,	Jan 05 05:38
TweetTuxMachines	can't face charges	Jan 05 05:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ai	Jan 05 05:38
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3484076 http://www.globalresearch.ca/inconsistencies-and-unanswered-questions-the-risks-of-trusting-the-snowden-story/5363262	Jan 05 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Computing Accelerated Sharply in 2013	Jan 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/U2yjCRRjLF	Jan 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8be	Jan 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DreamWorks will release its own 'Dreamtab'	Jan 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	Android tablet this spring	Jan 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/bylICzifHs	Jan 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8bf	Jan 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Year's Resolutions for SysAdmins	Jan 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/A8TMJiJH1S	Jan 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8bg	Jan 05 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz EP Green/EFA to use open source to secure email	Jan 05 05:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/o6MUeB0bHX #freesw #europe	Jan 05 05:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8bu	Jan 05 05:49
schestowitz	http://mrpogson.com/2013/12/31/top-7-not/	Jan 05 05:53
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz LiMux - the IT evolution - An open source	Jan 05 05:55
TweetTuxMachines	success story like never before	Jan 05 05:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/b4Zvuo7WfA #limux #gnu #linux	Jan 05 05:55
TweetTuxMachines	#germany	Jan 05 05:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ct	Jan 05 05:55
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz GNU/Linux is Kicking Ass At Netcraft	Jan 05 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IlvDuqtqb2 #gnu #linux huge in	Jan 05 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	servers	Jan 05 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8df	Jan 05 05:59
schestowitz	":-) nr. 10 sounds good: "Remember to write down all the things I do so the year-end review isn't a frantic struggle through old emails to justify my existence. It takes two minutes a day. Actually, this is good for everyone, not just sysadmins.""	Jan 05 06:04
schestowitz	:-) nr. 10 sounds good: "Remember to write down all the things I do so the year-end review isn't a frantic struggle through old emails to justify my existence. It takes two minutes a day. Actually, this is good for everyone, not just sysadmins."	Jan 05 06:04
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3483931	Jan 05 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	@ioerror The answer to Senator Bernie Sanders's question	Jan 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by about the #NSA spying on Congress is simple:	Jan 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Yes. The NSA is spying on elected officials.	Jan 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8f0	Jan 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	@RohanBeg In the whole Islamic World, Malaysia is the	Jan 05 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by only nation that has restricted usage of the	Jan 05 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz word "Allah" for non-Muslims. Let that sink in.	Jan 05 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8f2	Jan 05 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #forbes is #censorship by #plutocrats , just	Jan 05 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	like #fox (recall the #monsanto incident)	Jan 05 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Pq2xWCYB3W	Jan 05 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8f7	Jan 05 06:07
schestowitz	https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/10/msg00651.html	Jan 05 06:11
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/anildash/status/419126301468151808	Jan 05 06:11
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/anildash/status/419126301468151808	Jan 05 06:12
TechrightsBot-tr	@anildash: Heartbreaking, but important, profile of Bob Swartz a year after he, and we, lost @aaronsw: http://t.co/BKYGVl1jnL	Jan 05 06:12
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bostonmagazine.com \| Losing Aaron: Bob Swartz on MIT's Role in His Son's Death	Jan 05 06:12
schestowitz	http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/384934/torvalds-steamos-will-really-help-linux-on-desktop	Jan 05 06:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcpro.co.uk \| Torvalds: SteamOS will "really help" Linux on desktop \| News \| PC Pro [ http://ur1.ca/gc8fx ]	Jan 05 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in	Jan 05 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	OpenSSL site breach http://t.co/CBSlrz9Fh0	Jan 05 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	#openssl #ssl #unix #linux	Jan 05 06:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.networkworld.com \| No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in OpenSSL site breach - Network World	Jan 05 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8g7	Jan 05 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines EP Green/EFA to use open source to secure email	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4epvOGDXck	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ho	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LiMux - the IT evolution - An open source	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	success story like never before	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lW6qVtJqPU	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8hq	Jan 05 06:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| EP Green/EFA to use open source to secure email \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 06:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| LiMux - the IT evolution - An open source success story like never before \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU/Linux is Kicking Ass At Netcraft	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KOrRuJVB6t	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8hr	Jan 05 06:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| GNU/Linux is Kicking Ass At Netcraft \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	OpenSSL site breach http://t.co/pg7X8pBwIx	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8hs	Jan 05 06:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| No hypervisor vulnerability exploited in OpenSSL site breach \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 06:30
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #uk "yellow weather warnings of ice and rain,	Jan 05 06:47
TweetTuxMachines	with 96 flood warnings in place and a further	Jan 05 06:47
TweetTuxMachines	244 areas on flood alert"	Jan 05 06:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mASDCVv3ZA	Jan 05 06:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| UK's worst winter storms for two decades set to continue \| UK news \| theguardian.com	Jan 05 06:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8kg	Jan 05 06:47
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press/releases/get-a-court-order-says-rights-group	Jan 05 06:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Get a court order, says Open Rights Group [ http://ur1.ca/gc8mv ]	Jan 05 06:56
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/government-touts-backroom-deals-to-block-extremist-websites	Jan 05 06:57
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Government touts backroom deals to block extremist websites [ http://ur1.ca/gc8n3 ]	Jan 05 06:57
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz In the #uk a newspaper can come under	Jan 05 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	investigation as though reporting is terrorism.	Jan 05 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/5hhSSd5nvF	Jan 05 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ni	Jan 05 06:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Joint letter to Home Affairs Select Committee highlighting concerns over freedom of the press	Jan 05 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Some US politicians, including the Vice	Jan 05 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	President, try to label #wikileaks	Jan 05 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	"terrorism".Will the #uk block Wikileaks?	Jan 05 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gmXm2iQRph	Jan 05 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8nm	Jan 05 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz #uk #censorship "doesn’t seem like there is a	Jan 05 07:02
TweetTuxMachines	body who will be monitoring or dealing with	Jan 05 07:02
TweetTuxMachines	disputes or performance"	Jan 05 07:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mecItAQbd5	Jan 05 07:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8o6	Jan 05 07:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Sky's reply to ORG on default internet filters	Jan 05 07:02
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/now-talking-is-treachery	Jan 05 07:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Now talking is treachery [ http://ur1.ca/gc8od ]	Jan 05 07:03
schestowitz	https://www.openrightsgroup.org/ourwork/reports/response-to-nominet-domain-registration-policy-review	Jan 05 07:05
schestowitz	"No. Nominet should not block terms or expressions. There is an existing process for dealing with illegal content."	Jan 05 07:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Response to Nominet domain registration policy review [ http://ur1.ca/gc8oo ]	Jan 05 07:05
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "accuse companies like Google, Yahoo and	Jan 05 07:07
TweetTuxMachines	Microsoft of aiding paedophiles, those	Jan 05 07:07
TweetTuxMachines	companies are bound to take action."	Jan 05 07:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QO7OhzMwsC	Jan 05 07:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8p0	Jan 05 07:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.openrightsgroup.org \| Open Rights Group - Child abuse image policies risk looking like cynical manipulation	Jan 05 07:07
schestowitz	http://mrpogson.com/2013/12/18/fans-take-notice-m-admits-windows-sloowwsss-dddooowwwwwnnnnnnnnn/	Jan 05 07:12
TechrightsBot-tr	mrpogson.com \| Fans Take Notice! M$ Admits Windows Sloowwsss Dddooowwwwwnnnnnnnnn! \| Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gc8ps ]	Jan 05 07:12
schestowitz	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/exponential-algorithm-making-windows-xp-miserable-could-be-fixed/	Jan 05 07:12
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Exponential algorithm making Windows XP miserable could be fixed \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gc8pt ]	Jan 05 07:12
schestowitz	Peter MS Bright spins it	Jan 05 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Google continues to hide/deprecate RSS feeds.	Jan 05 07:24
TweetTuxMachines	It's a real struggle to find XML in anything	Jan 05 07:24
TweetTuxMachines	Google, even its browsers. Google, Y U so lame	Jan 05 07:24
TweetTuxMachines	!!	Jan 05 07:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8sg	Jan 05 07:24
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz "AmericaSpeaks will close its doors today."	Jan 05 07:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/W69biePI0E Not to worry, we still	Jan 05 07:24
TweetTuxMachines	have Fox	Jan 05 07:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8sk	Jan 05 07:24
TechrightsBot-tr	americaspeaks.org \| AmericaSpeaks – In Honor of Our 19 Year Legacy « AmericaSpeaks	Jan 05 07:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/419806130848542720	Jan 05 07:25
TechrightsBot-tr	@gnutelephony: @schestowitz uncontrolled knowledge is a threat to them. In Canada they're even burning books. In the end they will come for wikipedia.	Jan 05 07:25
schestowitz	Knowledge is power and they know it. The NSA spies on everyone, with help from FB, G, MSFT...	Jan 05 07:26
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Liquid cats https://t.co/qgXizFrAMn	Jan 05 07:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8t9	Jan 05 07:30
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Thinking local https://t.co/PAlObyyQVc	Jan 05 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8tl	Jan 05 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Happy birthday to #microsoft - #backdoors for	Jan 05 07:36
TweetTuxMachines	#nsa turn 15. http://t.co/NMS6DCTzZt #antitrust	Jan 05 07:36
TweetTuxMachines	actions dropped in exchange for #espionage	Jan 05 07:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8u8	Jan 05 07:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonsblog.com \| NSA Built Back Door In All Windows Software by 1999 Washington's Blog	Jan 05 07:36
MinceR	geekings	Jan 05 07:43
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz For the most part, online connections offer	Jan 05 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	pseudo friendships, more like peers of	Jan 05 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	interest. Real friends needn't connect online.	Jan 05 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	#privacy	Jan 05 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8wm	Jan 05 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz What to many people vanity catalogs (or	Jan 05 07:47
TweetTuxMachines	posing/profiles) are all about is another	Jan 05 07:47
TweetTuxMachines	party's (subsidising the facilitator)	Jan 05 07:47
TweetTuxMachines	#surveillance aides	Jan 05 07:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8ww	Jan 05 07:47
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz Someone has told me that #facebook greed for	Jan 05 07:48
TweetTuxMachines	#surveillance (gov/commercial) now includes	Jan 05 07:48
TweetTuxMachines	questionnaires, e.g. years of car purchases	Jan 05 07:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8x0	Jan 05 07:48
schestowitz	MinceR: j0	Jan 05 07:54
MinceR	do we really need all these tweets in here?	Jan 05 07:55
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz How to deal with thugs http://t.co/9bpvh7WqgJ	Jan 05 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc8xu	Jan 05 07:57
schestowitz	let me make it so that only tuxmachines appears here	Jan 05 07:57
schestowitz	it wasn't intended to be like this, but tuxmachines follows me, hence it repeats like this	Jan 05 07:58
schestowitz	ol, done	Jan 05 08:01
schestowitz	(ok, done	Jan 05 08:01
schestowitz	http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1388890640394097.jpg	Jan 05 08:06
MinceR	:D	Jan 05 08:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines To Windows and Back Again.	Jan 05 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8UGF5XyHeH	Jan 05 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc95o	Jan 05 08:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| To Windows and Back Again. \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung's Galaxy Camera 2 starts to refine the	Jan 05 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	Android point-and-shoot http://t.co/hDW05cX0zI	Jan 05 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc95q	Jan 05 08:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung's Galaxy Camera 2 starts to refine the Android point-and-shoot \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 08:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 30 Cool Open Source Software I Discovered in	Jan 05 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	2013 http://t.co/lHsEdyF9yQ	Jan 05 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc9ei	Jan 05 09:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| 30 Cool Open Source Software I Discovered in 2013 \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 09:40
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qu1j0t3	schestowitz: right, Tuxm would need to un-follow you.	Jan 05 11:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OggCamp 2013 – Free software, free culture &	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	mass surveillance http://t.co/yb76cSa7o5	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca32	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.13-rc7 announced http://t.co/I2lU7GRPPZ	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca33	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Glade 3.16.1 UI Designer Repairs Numerous Bugs	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/dNMSaGaAIV	Jan 05 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| OggCamp 2013 – Free software, free culture & mass surveillance \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca34	Jan 05 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux 3.13-rc7 announced \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Glade 3.16.1 UI Designer Repairs Numerous Bugs \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PC-BSD 10.0 RC3 Improves Hybrid Graphics	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	Support http://t.co/iJiJd0jipq	Jan 05 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gca35	Jan 05 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| PC-BSD 10.0 RC3 Improves Hybrid Graphics Support \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 12:03
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3484346	Jan 05 12:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google continues to hide/deprecate RSS feeds. It's a real struggle to find XML in anything Google, even its browsers. Google, Y U so lame !!	Jan 05 12:05
schestowitz	"They hired people from Microsoft to manage "social" and made "social" a priority. They gave power to the wrong people."	Jan 05 12:05
schestowitz	I've been thinking that as a possible explanation. They also hired many patent lawyers and it's affecting corporate policy.	Jan 05 12:05
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482178	Jan 05 12:44
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Oracle refuses to even distance itself from #nsa leaks, allegations. Ellison openly supports NSA, has CIA past.Why trust MySQL, Unbreakable?	Jan 05 12:44
schestowitz	"There's still the open source JRE for Linux."	Jan 05 12:44
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485054	Jan 05 12:44
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: BBC 'hijacked' by sanity (PJ Harvey). #Assange explains #surveillance and #secrecy in 2h:55m http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03mhyzh/Today_02_01_2014/	Jan 05 12:44
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC iPlayer - Today: 02/01/2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gc9m6 ]	Jan 05 12:44
schestowitz	"Pretty awesome innit :)"	Jan 05 12:45
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485057	Jan 05 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "120-year old city without government functions just fine" http://intellihub.com/2014/01/03/government-free-city-of-max-threatens-u-s-governments-dominance/	Jan 05 12:45
TechrightsBot-tr	-> intellihub.com \| \| INTELLIHUB [ http://ur1.ca/gcaah ]	Jan 05 12:45
schestowitz	"I love shit like this but I couldn't just listen to him talk... And talk... And talk... Ugh..."	Jan 05 12:45
Sosumi	I think Unbreakable linux is kind of a joke	Jan 05 12:45
schestowitz	yeah	Jan 05 12:45
schestowitz	but people who choose Oracle too are a joke :-)	Jan 05 12:45
Sosumi	and there's always "iced tea" aka open source java	Jan 05 12:45
Sosumi	but they have a strong penetration in some sectors	Jan 05 12:47
Sosumi	specially in the health indrustry	Jan 05 12:47
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Sosumi	and almost every new public hospital around here runs on oracle	Jan 05 12:47
MinceR	could be much worse	Jan 05 12:48
MinceR	it could run on winblows	Jan 05 12:48
Sosumi	well.............	Jan 05 12:48
Sosumi	the clients run windows	Jan 05 12:49
schestowitz	AdBlock was whitelisting for cash, IIRc, a classic rogue business model"	Jan 05 12:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3484346	Jan 05 12:49
Sosumi	they just browse the database through internet explorer	Jan 05 12:49
MinceR	must be great to be killed by malware	Jan 05 12:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485040	Jan 05 12:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Ken Kesey would have been to party with.	Jan 05 12:49
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by cannabenoid@d.viewskew.com: https://d.viewskew.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_e86a0e4001309b1915c7.jpg	Jan 05 12:49
schestowitz	"yeah then all the hippies became neoliberals in their 50s & 60s"	Jan 05 12:50
Sosumi	well, and lets no forget when the medic or nurse goes out of the room and leaves the patient there waiting	Jan 05 12:50
schestowitz	"@vlax ˚\•/°, did I use you :-D?"	Jan 05 12:50
schestowitz	"indeed... google hates me"	Jan 05 12:50
Sosumi	I could just plug an USB key with malware and blow the thing wide open	Jan 05 12:50
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Sosumi	although I NEVER did that	Jan 05 12:51
Sosumi	and NEVER WILL	Jan 05 12:51
Sosumi	unless... well there's something to gain	Jan 05 12:51
Sosumi	but that wouldn't be the 1st time	Jan 05 12:53
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Sosumi	the systems belonging to the ministry of justice have been blown countless times	Jan 05 12:53
Sosumi	although their system is a bit different with a bunch of outdated aix servers serving a couple of municipalities	Jan 05 12:56
Sosumi	and many of their clients still on win 98 and 2000	Jan 05 12:57
Sosumi	and in some cases, DOS for what they called "judicial payments"	Jan 05 12:58
Sosumi	how do I know all that? well my grandfather was judicial secretary (top honcho at one of the main regional courts here in portugal)	Jan 05 13:02
Sosumi	he's retired now, but not that much changed for the better since he left	Jan 05 13:03
Sosumi	that was why you still see dumb things like minors and dead folks being counted in the past elections	Jan 05 13:05
Sosumi	or the dead actually voting	Jan 05 13:06
MinceR	more common is the braindead voting	Jan 05 13:07
Sosumi	see? it is just not only the US with its diebold voting machines	Jan 05 13:08
Sosumi	I always vote	Jan 05 13:08
Sosumi	I make a big X in the entire bulletin	Jan 05 13:08
Sosumi	and sometimes write a message	Jan 05 13:08
Sosumi	like "they are all sons of the same mother"	Jan 05 13:09
Sosumi	simply because I actually fear being singled out or facing repercussions for not playing along	Jan 05 13:10
Sosumi	when you have politicians promising you prosperity but in turn taking everything	Jan 05 13:11
Sosumi	and the mindless majority blindingly following, you need to be carefull	Jan 05 13:12
Sosumi	and things like that are common in here, if you actually speak against the system, you're treatened or harassed	Jan 05 13:13
MinceR	i tend to vote for the lesser evil	Jan 05 13:17
MinceR	they usually lose anyway	Jan 05 13:17
Sosumi	but even with all its negatives, PT is still a better place to live than say the US or france or spain or the uk	Jan 05 13:20
Sosumi	or ukraine	Jan 05 13:21
Sosumi	simply because things tend to be slow around here	Jan 05 13:21
Sosumi	and if you know how to handle yourself	Jan 05 13:22
Sosumi	you can actually get things done without being bothered	Jan 05 13:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 Surprises At Red Hat Partner Conference 2014	Jan 05 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/XD6TWi1bRq	Jan 05 13:37
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 Surprises At Red Hat Partner Conference 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 13:37
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iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/internet-censors-came-for-torrentfreak-now-im-really-mad-140105/	Jan 05 14:13
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Internet Censors Came For TorrentFreak & Now I’m Really Mad \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gcaxr ]	Jan 05 14:13
iophk	http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/01/the-county-sheriff-who-keylogged-his-wife/	Jan 05 14:18
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| The county sheriff who keylogged his wife \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gcb43 ]	Jan 05 14:18
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iophk	http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2014/01/so-previewing-smartphone-bloodbath-year-5-who-is-still-left-alive.html	Jan 05 15:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The 10 Best Features Of FreeBSD 10.0	Jan 05 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HxKEdFQIBc	Jan 05 15:16
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The 10 Best Features Of FreeBSD 10.0 \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines It Looks Like Ubuntu's First Phone Might Be For	Jan 05 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	China http://t.co/gD13j89sEm	Jan 05 15:16
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| It Looks Like Ubuntu's First Phone Might Be For China \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Parted Magic Continues Being Commercial-Only	Jan 05 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iNE3F2zOOX	Jan 05 15:16
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Parted Magic Continues Being Commercial-Only \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 15:16
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MinceR	http://www.reddit.com/tb/1ugc8o	Jan 05 15:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.reddit.com \| Internet Censors Came For TorrentFreak & Now I’m Really Mad : worldnews	Jan 05 15:20
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iophk	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1559318/Menezes-could-not-have-saved-his-life.html	Jan 05 15:45
iophk	old	Jan 05 15:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Menezes could not have saved his life - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gcdpr ]	Jan 05 15:45
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/419925124595204096	Jan 05 17:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@fcassia: @schestowitz http://t.co/oHTSh5qvOG :-p	Jan 05 17:05
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 05 17:19
MinceR	gn	Jan 05 17:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485389	Jan 05 17:45
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Abusive cartel of the medical industry. This is looting. http://www.quickmeme.com/p/3vr7y8	Jan 05 17:45
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.quickmeme.com \| Guy Gets Sick, Spends Few Hours in Hospital Then This Happens.... - quickmeme	Jan 05 17:45
schestowitz	"	Jan 05 17:46
schestowitz	It's only getting worse with Obamacare, he let the insurance company write a bill for their own "regulation" (ie the removal of competition). Now they are going to charge whatever they want because 1 you HAVE to pay for it so there is no incentive to lower prices OR provide a better service and 2 no competition.	Jan 05 17:46
schestowitz	Government managed healthcare is a death sentence.	Jan 05 17:46
schestowitz	'	Jan 05 17:46
schestowitz	"Neo-Liberalism (which should rightly be called Fascism) in your backyard.'	Jan 05 17:46
schestowitz	"@Agora, about government managed health care... it depends. I live in a country with a public health care system with high cost-efficiency. It has beed working this way just because insuarance companies din't write the regulation.'	Jan 05 17:46
schestowitz	"@Agora, about government managed health care... it depends. I live in a country with a public health care system with high cost-efficiency. It has been working this way just because insuarance companies din't write the regulation."	Jan 05 17:47
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485617	Jan 05 17:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@psychonot@pod.orkz.net: Good for this guy taking to the internet to address this injustice. If you think this is bad just wait for Obamacare to come into full swing.	Jan 05 17:48
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schestowitz	"	Jan 05 17:48
schestowitz	Good for this guy taking to the internet to address this injustice. If you think this is bad just wait for Obamacare to come into full swing.	Jan 05 17:48
schestowitz	It's beginning to look a lot like a Police State... Everywhere ya go...	Jan 05 17:48
schestowitz	"	Jan 05 17:48
schestowitz	Good for this guy taking to the internet to address this injustice. If you think this is bad just wait for Obamacare to come into full swing.	Jan 05 17:48
schestowitz	It's beginning to look a lot like a Police State... Everywhere ya go...	Jan 05 17:48
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485483	Jan 05 17:49
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #napolitano against move which would label her and her colleagues criminals, not #snowden http://presspass.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/05/22187914-napolitano-rejects-idea-of-clemency-for-nsa-leaker-snowden http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/05/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-clemency	Jan 05 17:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> presspass.nbcnews.com \| Napolitano rejects idea of clemency for NSA leaker Snowden - Press Pass [ http://ur1.ca/gcesl ]	Jan 05 17:49
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| Napolitano: NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden should not be given clemency \| World news \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gcesm ]	Jan 05 17:49
schestowitz	"She is the living embodiment of a slug."	Jan 05 17:49
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485483	Jan 05 17:49
schestowitz	"Sticky wicket? More of a non-starter, I would think."	Jan 05 17:49
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schestowitz	"pehaps that's still a great market to enter as a newbie"	Jan 05 18:54
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3485478	Jan 05 18:54
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It Looks Like Ubuntu's First Phone Might Be For China http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU2MDY #ubuntu #linux #gnu #china	Jan 05 18:54
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] It Looks Like Ubuntu's First Phone Might Be For China [ http://ur1.ca/gcffr ]	Jan 05 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Ivy Bridge Linux Performance Stepped Up	Jan 05 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	In 2013 http://t.co/DvWOY4DrwU	Jan 05 19:01
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel Ivy Bridge Linux Performance Stepped Up In 2013 \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 19:01
schestowitz	http://rdwolff.com/content/richard-wolff-capitalism-and-socialism-interview-c-j-polychroniou	Jan 05 19:09
TechrightsBot-tr	rdwolff.com \| Richard Wolff on Capitalism and Socialism: An Interview with C. J. Polychroniou \| Professor Richard D. Wolff [ http://ur1.ca/gcfmj ]	Jan 05 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/WoWn3XWw8d	Jan 05 19:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/3ejLoHZLCM	Jan 05 19:47
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 19:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines	Jan 05 19:47
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/malware-attacks-thousands-of-yahoo-com-visitors-through-java-exploit/	Jan 05 20:15
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Malware attacks thousands of Yahoo.com visitors through Java exploit \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gcgat ]	Jan 05 20:15
Sosumi	lol java	Jan 05 20:15
Sosumi	but ho well	Jan 05 20:16
Sosumi	gn :)	Jan 05 20:17
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Sosumi	http://enenews.com/abc-news-govt-baffled-over-white-spots-on-cows-around-fukushima-plant-farmer-no-one-knows-what-they-are-i-think-its-from-radiation-our-towns-contaminated-like-chernobyl-we-were-j	Jan 06 02:58
TechrightsBot-tr	enenews.com \| ABC News: Gov’t, scientists ‘baffled’ over white spots on cows around Fukushima plant — Farmer: No one knows what they are, I think it’s from radiation; “Our town’s contaminated like Chernobyl… We were just thrown away like trash” — Officials order the animals to be slaughtered (VIDEOS) [ http://ur1.ca/gclcl ]	Jan 06 02:58
Sosumi	STALKER: Call of Fukushima	Jan 06 02:59
Sosumi	I said it before right after it happened in march,	Jan 06 03:03
Sosumi	Japan either had to get it together and find new means to actually decontaminate or they'd be doomed	Jan 06 03:04
Sosumi	and they kind of know that, Abe beating the war drums with china is just a distraction to ease the minds out of the big glowing elephant in the room	Jan 06 03:06
Sosumi	and I loved the name Abenomics	Jan 06 03:07
Sosumi	and the fact that some ppl of the Abe family, according to yoichi shimatsu of the asia times,	Jan 06 03:09
Sosumi	were involved in the tokyo subway gassing	Jan 06 03:09
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Sosumi	my bad, he's the former editor of the japan times	Jan 06 03:14
Sosumi	my bad	Jan 06 03:14
Sosumi	ánd former pacific news service	Jan 06 03:15
Sosumi	now working with the 4th media out of hong kong	Jan 06 03:15
Sosumi	http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Saving_Agent_Snowden_From_His_Handlers_Greenwald_%26_Omidyar	Jan 06 03:17
TechrightsBot-tr	wikispooks.com \| Document:Saving Agent Snowden From His Handlers Greenwald & Omidyar - WikiSpooks [ http://ur1.ca/gclfl ]	Jan 06 03:17
Sosumi	that's an actual article from him	Jan 06 03:17
DaemonFC`	I saw a video where people were trying out a "shatter proof" iPhone 5 screen protector.	Jan 06 03:18
Sosumi	but didn't Snowden say that he was still working for the NSA? But "they" just didn't know/realize it?	Jan 06 03:18
DaemonFC`	The iPhone 5 does have Gorilla Glass, but it's not as good as the Gorilla Glass in the LG G2.	Jan 06 03:18
DaemonFC`	My G2 has Gorilla Glass 3, and apparently the iPhone 5 has the older Gorilla Glass 2.	Jan 06 03:18
DaemonFC`	Corning said that GG 3 is about 40% more damage resistant.	Jan 06 03:19
DaemonFC`	I still don't have any scratches on my phone's screen, and I've had it in my pocket with loose change and cigarette lighters several times.	Jan 06 03:20
DaemonFC`	So, I think GG 3 is just good stuff.	Jan 06 03:21
Sosumi	I'm kind of tired of apple...	Jan 06 03:21
Sosumi	and the thought of having to port 10 years plus of work to linux	Jan 06 03:21
DaemonFC`	Well, if you're paying $600 for a phone, you want the best stuff in that phone.	Jan 06 03:21
Sosumi	is kind of killing the inner child inside me	Jan 06 03:21
DaemonFC`	It kind of shocked me that the iPhone doesn't have Gorilla Glass 3.	Jan 06 03:22
DaemonFC`	Or that it only has half the RAM that my phone has.	Jan 06 03:22
Sosumi	just 1GB even on the 5s	Jan 06 03:22
DaemonFC`	Yeah, Ny G2 has 2 GB of RAM.	Jan 06 03:22
Sosumi	sad joke, but then again look at the mac pro, the supposed pro workstation	Jan 06 03:23
Sosumi	can't keep itself cool	Jan 06 03:23
DaemonFC`	It also basically destroys the iPhone 5S on OpenGL ES benchmarks.	Jan 06 03:23
Sosumi	and has two underclocked 6GB HD7970 sold as firepros	Jan 06 03:23
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Sosumi	awesome! right?	Jan 06 03:23
Sosumi	not in my book, I'd kill that thing in a month	Jan 06 03:24
DaemonFC	Yeah. There's really no reason to buy a FirePro card.	Jan 06 03:24
DaemonFC	It just costs more. The difference is only in program certification for their proprietary driver.	Jan 06 03:24
DaemonFC	They don't guarantee program compatibility with the Radeon HD, but that's the only difference I believe.	Jan 06 03:25
DaemonFC	In practice, they should run the same programs.	Jan 06 03:25
Sosumi	but, they are selling a lie there	Jan 06 03:25
Sosumi	since there is no and never was and never will be a distinction between pro and normal graphics driver in osx	Jan 06 03:25
DaemonFC	I recommend AMD's Radeon HD cards mostly because of the driver situation.	Jan 06 03:26
DaemonFC	Nouveau is barely usable.	Jan 06 03:26
DaemonFC	It's incredibly slow when it does work.	Jan 06 03:26
DaemonFC	It's a step up from what NV was, but that isn't saying much.	Jan 06 03:26
Sosumi	and there's no ECC in those cards, so folks offloading to gpu will get errors	Jan 06 03:27
Sosumi	even through on the real fire pros	Jan 06 03:27
Sosumi	ecc was virtual	Jan 06 03:27
DaemonFC	Nvidia's not really cooperating. They drop a hint here and there, but they're not releasing huge amounts of programming documentation.	Jan 06 03:27
Sosumi	I know that, nvidia are kind of the typical asses	Jan 06 03:28
DaemonFC	Sosumi, That's funny, because the system RAM is ECC, and the processor is a Xeon.	Jan 06 03:28
Sosumi	but fire pros and quadro cards are there to satisfy a niche	Jan 06 03:28
DaemonFC	So they have error control there, but not on the graphics cards?	Jan 06 03:28
Sosumi	but the cards are falso fire pros	Jan 06 03:28
DaemonFC	That's crazy.	Jan 06 03:28
Sosumi	*false	Jan 06 03:28
Sosumi	if you're doing autocad and offloading to the gpu you're going to need one of those cards	Jan 06 03:29
Sosumi	for offloading you're actually going to need a model that has ECC	Jan 06 03:30
Sosumi	tesla, mostly and probably the k6000	Jan 06 03:31
Sosumi	I haven't seen the specs on that one	Jan 06 03:31
Sosumi	since it is kind of not there yet	Jan 06 03:31
Sosumi	but open source drivers should be the future	Jan 06 03:35
Sosumi	there's no doubt about that	Jan 06 03:35
Sosumi	actually if I remember well	Jan 06 03:41
Sosumi	one of the problems with the system x at virginia tech	Jan 06 03:41
Sosumi	was the fact that the original powermac cluster they built lacked ecc	Jan 06 03:41
Sosumi	I guess crapple never mentioned that in their propaganda page	Jan 06 03:42
Sosumi	later they replaced those powermacs with xservers	Jan 06 03:43
Sosumi	which they sould have never gotten due to reliability issues with the watercooling system	Jan 06 03:43
Sosumi	and the powermacs could be fitted with ecc ram with issue	Jan 06 03:44
Sosumi	my powermac g5 had ecc ram	Jan 06 03:44
Sosumi	although the model used at virginia tech was the dual 2.7GHz and I got the quad 2.5GHx one year later	Jan 06 03:45
Sosumi	it was almost 10 years ago	Jan 06 03:51
Sosumi	how time flies :(	Jan 06 03:51
DaemonFC	http://io9.com/theres-a-polar-vortex-sweeping-across-america-and-i-1494961441?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow	Jan 06 04:03
TechrightsBot-tr	io9.com \| There's a "polar vortex" sweeping across America, and it is NASTY [ http://ur1.ca/gcls2 ]	Jan 06 04:03
DaemonFC	I'm in the middle of it.	Jan 06 04:03
DaemonFC	The wind chill outside is 40 below zero.	Jan 06 04:03
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DaemonFC	Yeah. It's a nasty storm.	Jan 06 04:10
DaemonFC	There's at least a foot of snow on the ground right now.	Jan 06 04:10
DaemonFC	The weather report said it was supposed to stop snowing at 1 AM, but it's still going.	Jan 06 04:10
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DaemonFC	Plus the wind is blowing it out of trees and off roofs.	Jan 06 04:11
DaemonFC	With this much snow on the roof, I'm worried that the roof could actually cave in.	Jan 06 04:11
DaemonFC	I haven't seen snow like this in years.	Jan 06 04:11
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DaemonFC	The weather service says that this is as cold as it's been in this part of Indiana since the 1970s.	Jan 06 04:12
MinceR	geekings	Jan 06 04:16
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Sosumi	global warming, right?	Jan 06 04:41
MinceR	winter does not disprove global warming	Jan 06 04:45
MinceR	also, it's 8°C here and the predicted minimum is 5°C	Jan 06 04:46
MinceR	https://twitter.com/idiot/status/419549763936067584	Jan 06 04:47
TechrightsBot-tr	@idiot: Why did the chicken send a HTTP request? To GET to /the-other-side.	Jan 06 04:47
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DaemonFC	I went outside for about a minute.	Jan 06 05:21
DaemonFC	It's way too cold out there. I think I might just make an exception to my smoking in the house rule.	Jan 06 05:22
DaemonFC	Or I could just open the window and lean my head out. That way, at least the rest of my body would be warm.	Jan 06 05:22
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iophk	http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/security/62719-being-a-patriot	Jan 06 05:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itwire.com \| Being a Patriot [ http://ur1.ca/gcmj9 ]	Jan 06 05:58
iophk	http://falkvinge.net/2014/01/06/censorship-causes-liability-uk-isps-need-to-be-sued-way-out-into-atlantic/	Jan 06 06:01
TechrightsBot-tr	falkvinge.net \| Censorship Triggers Liability: UK ISPs Need To Be Sued Way Out Into Atlantic - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/gcmjs ]	Jan 06 06:01
iophk	"From 05.12.2013 to 05.02.2014, the European Commission is inviting all interested parties, including individuals and NGOs, to offer their thoughts on how the EU copyright rules should be developed"	Jan 06 07:40
iophk	http://www.copywrongs.eu/	Jan 06 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.copywrongs.eu \| Help reform copyright	Jan 06 07:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 13.10 - The "Marmite" Linux Operating	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	System http://t.co/UnXoU1YCrc	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn99	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why Acer's new Android desktops are a	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	game-changer http://t.co/NWMXyDQGk5	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn9a	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Belkin shows Linux powered smart slow cooker at	Jan 06 07:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 13.10 - The "Marmite" Linux Operating System \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 07:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Why Acer's new Android desktops are a game-changer \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	CES 2014 http://t.co/qaeWzQgbqc	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn9b	Jan 06 07:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Belkin shows Linux powered smart slow cooker at CES 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What to expect from Ubuntu in 2014	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hrPpZDuc1N	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn9d	Jan 06 07:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| What to expect from Ubuntu in 2014 \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Summary of 2013 and New Year's list	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WpAriDN7qC	Jan 06 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcn9e	Jan 06 07:42
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Summary of 2013 and New Year's list \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 07:42
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iophk	http://www.inquisitr.com/1084493/kim-dotcom-raid-megaupload-founders-mother-held-at-gunpoint-bmw-seized/	Jan 06 09:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.inquisitr.com \| Kim Dotcom Raid: Megaupload Founder’s Mother Held At Gunpoint , BMW Seized [ http://ur1.ca/gcntw ]	Jan 06 09:18
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Sosumi	it is not global warming	Jan 06 09:34
Sosumi	it is weather	Jan 06 09:34
Sosumi	also, bruce schneier joined co3	Jan 06 09:36
Sosumi	http://www.anandtech.com/show/7622/nvidia-tegra-k1	Jan 06 09:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.anandtech.com \| AnandTech \| NVIDIA Tegra K1 Preview & Architecture Analysis [ http://ur1.ca/gcnxt ]	Jan 06 09:37
Sosumi	64bit arm is now the rule	Jan 06 09:37
Sosumi	for as much as I don't like nvidia	Jan 06 09:40
Sosumi	I'd love to see them putting out a cpu destined to the workstation/server market that could compete with xeons	Jan 06 09:41
Sosumi	amd has a cpu+gpu division	Jan 06 09:42
Sosumi	intel too	Jan 06 09:42
Sosumi	and they have become better with time	Jan 06 09:43
Sosumi	only nvidia is kind of left behind	Jan 06 09:43
Sosumi	with intel eating their HPC market	Jan 06 09:44
Sosumi	with the xeon phi card	Jan 06 09:44
Sosumi	actually, back in 2009 there were talks that behind the scenes intel wanted to buy nvidia	Jan 06 09:45
Sosumi	but the deal ended up because Jen-Hsun wanted to stay at the head	Jan 06 09:46
Sosumi	it was also back when intel didn't renew/update the licence with nvidia for the production of nehalem + compatible chipsets	Jan 06 09:48
Sosumi	remember nforce?	Jan 06 09:48
iophk	https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/01/nsa_documents_f.html	Jan 06 09:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.schneier.com \| Schneier on Security: NSA Documents from the Spiegel Story [ http://ur1.ca/gco2l ]	Jan 06 09:53
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/backdoor-in-wireless-dsl-routers-lets-attacker-reset-router-get-admin/	Jan 06 10:05
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Backdoor in wireless DSL routers lets attacker reset router, get admin \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gco5m ]	Jan 06 10:05
Sosumi	similar things have been know since, that I can remember, defcon 17	Jan 06 10:06
Sosumi	back in 2009	Jan 06 10:06
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/linksys-resurrects-classic-blue-router-with-open-source-and-300-price/	Jan 06 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Linksys resurrects classic blue router, with open source and $300 price \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gcom6 ]	Jan 06 11:12
Sosumi	sdk will be available for custom firmwares	Jan 06 11:12
Sosumi	http://wccftech.com/details-nvidia-geforce-gtx-790-finally-surface-4992-cuda-cores-10-gb-memory-5/	Jan 06 11:13
TechrightsBot-tr	wccftech.com \| Details Regarding Nvidia Geforce GTX 790 Finally Surface - 4992 Cuda Cores and 10 GB of Memory [ http://ur1.ca/gcomg ]	Jan 06 11:13
Sosumi	I wander if it is possible to implement ECC software side	Jan 06 11:14
Sosumi	but that is kind of the router everyone was waiting for	Jan 06 11:15
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Sosumi	RT pulled it again	Jan 06 12:49
Sosumi	pilf time 2.0	Jan 06 12:49
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg6VTzacb9I	Jan 06 12:50
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| 'Aliens could share more tech with us, if we warmonger less' - Former Canada Defense Minister - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gcp73 ]	Jan 06 12:50
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Sosumi	still, clever way to discredit experimental aircraft	Jan 06 12:59
Sosumi	by putting charades like "aliens" associated with sightings of secret aircraft	Jan 06 13:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines In Mobile, GNU and Linux Victories Are	Jan 06 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Everywhere, So Microsoft Tries to Interject	Jan 06 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Itself Into Linux http://t.co/i9aUeckmye	Jan 06 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpne	Jan 06 13:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| In Mobile, GNU and Linux Victories Are Everywhere, So Microsoft Tries to Interject Itself Into Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi: RaspBMC and OpenELEC	Jan 06 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WxeYa6OOhJ	Jan 06 13:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Raspberry Pi: RaspBMC and OpenELEC \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpnf	Jan 06 13:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SnapRAID Yields A New RAID Kernel Library For	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/5ZYA4j58iC	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpyq	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Users Still Have Mixed Feelings Over DNF	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nHjeFNuOEv	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpys	Jan 06 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| SnapRAID Yields A New RAID Kernel Library For Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Already Has A Dozen Steam Machine	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	Partners http://t.co/gihE0xWcVu	Jan 06 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora Users Still Have Mixed Feelings Over DNF \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpyt	Jan 06 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Valve Already Has A Dozen Steam Machine Partners \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google launches the Android-based Open	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	Automotive Alliance with Audi, Honda, GM, and	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	more http://t.co/MZeCLtNYR4	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpyu	Jan 06 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Google launches the Android-based Open Automotive Alliance with Audi, Honda, GM, and more \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android desktops arrive as Lenovo eyes your	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	living room http://t.co/0HFi3PR1tc	Jan 06 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcpyv	Jan 06 14:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Android desktops arrive as Lenovo eyes your living room \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 14:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PC retail rut http://t.co/vkBbasNWLG	Jan 06 15:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcqa3	Jan 06 15:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| PC retail rut \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 15:23
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iophk	no visible date, but appears fresh:	Jan 06 15:34
iophk	https://ameliaandersdotter.eu/drm-html5	Jan 06 15:34
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TechrightsBot-tr	ameliaandersdotter.eu \| DRM in HTML5 \| Amelia Andersdotter	Jan 06 15:34
iophk	https://ameliaandersdotter.eu/copyright-consultation-model-responses	Jan 06 15:37
TechrightsBot-tr	ameliaandersdotter.eu \| Copyright consultation - model responses \| Amelia Andersdotter [ http://ur1.ca/gcqcp ]	Jan 06 15:37
schestowitz	old	Jan 06 15:40
iophk	frustrating - there is no visible date on it	Jan 06 15:40
schestowitz	some people dont	Jan 06 15:40
schestowitz	'know how to use the Web	Jan 06 15:40
schestowitz	I think I linked to it last year	Jan 06 15:41
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iophk	maybe the twitter gen	Jan 06 15:41
iophk	no date stamps on that either probably	Jan 06 15:42
schestowitz	twitter has timestamps	Jan 06 15:44
iophk	that's a relief	Jan 06 15:44
iophk	the web UI (which sucks) doesn't however	Jan 06 15:45
iophk	what's the best UI for twitter these days?	Jan 06 15:45
iophk	gtg	Jan 06 15:51
Sosumi	tweetdeck for vanilla twitter	Jan 06 15:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KMS Drivers Break The Console In FreeBSD 10	Jan 06 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vsw9pS0Rcj	Jan 06 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcqic	Jan 06 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Arch Linux's First Release of 2014 Is Available	Jan 06 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	for Download http://t.co/tQS0cO2tCj	Jan 06 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcqid	Jan 06 16:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| KMS Drivers Break The Console In FreeBSD 10 \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 16:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Arch Linux's First Release of 2014 Is Available for Download \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Latest Benchmarks Of The Linux 3.13 Kernel	Jan 06 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xLwE4lDoZD	Jan 06 16:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcqie	Jan 06 16:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| The Latest Benchmarks Of The Linux 3.13 Kernel \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 16:07
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Sosumi	http://www.anandtech.com/show/7640/intel-ces-2014-live-blog	Jan 06 17:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.anandtech.com \| AnandTech \| Intel CES 2014 Live Blog [ http://ur1.ca/gcr7t ]	Jan 06 17:38
Sosumi	windows and skype everywere	Jan 06 17:38
MinceR	gn	Jan 06 17:50
Sosumi	gn	Jan 06 18:11
Sosumi	also, don't freeze to death if you're in the US	Jan 06 18:12
DaemonFC	The temperature outside is so low that my baseboard heaters can't keep up with it.	Jan 06 18:16
DaemonFC	I might have to go into the bathroom and turn on the heater fan that's right outside the shower to try to get some more heat.	Jan 06 18:17
Sosumi	you know...	Jan 06 18:18
Sosumi	what about taking a very hot shower	Jan 06 18:18
Sosumi	and then go run naked outside?	Jan 06 18:18
Sosumi	while yelling russian gibberish	Jan 06 18:19
Sosumi	it'd be epic	Jan 06 18:20
Sosumi	it'd kind of be an "iron man challenge"	Jan 06 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VIA Partners With Mozilla For Firefox OS	Jan 06 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/p7a65I3PTH	Jan 06 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcrh4	Jan 06 18:25
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| VIA Partners With Mozilla For Firefox OS \| Tux Machines	Jan 06 18:25
DaemonFC	Well, it would mean free room and board.	Jan 06 18:30
DaemonFC	Assuming that the police didn't murder me first.	Jan 06 18:30
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Sosumi	:)	Jan 06 19:05
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Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcbVG9fCEAAel8K.jpg	Jan 06 19:10
Sosumi	How to survive the coming ice age	Jan 06 19:10
Sosumi	Time Mag cover of april 1977	Jan 06 19:11
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DaemonFC	Sosumi, That reminds me of the guy that got thrown into a state mental hospital in California, back in the 60s.	Jan 06 20:10
DaemonFC	They figured he was schizophrenic and shouting gibberish, but it turned out to be Hungarian.	Jan 06 20:10
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DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar	Jan 06 21:44
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| United States dollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gcspm ]	Jan 06 21:44
DaemonFC	Is't it kind of hard to measure the relative value of a currency from 1774 to the present?	Jan 06 21:45
DaemonFC	People weren't exactly buying flatscreen televisions, cell phones, and cars in 1774.... :)	Jan 06 21:45
DaemonFC	ALDI has kept their food prices pretty stable.	Jan 06 21:50
DaemonFC	Walmart hasn't.	Jan 06 21:50
DaemonFC	I had to go to Walmart and ALDI anyway the other day, because ALDI ran out of milk, eggs, and bread due to the storm.	Jan 06 21:50
DaemonFC	I'd estimate that for every $1 you spend at ALDI, you'd have to spend about $1.10-$1.15 at Walmart to buy the same items.	Jan 06 21:51
DaemonFC	MinceR, It amuses me that the National Weather Service has to tell people all the ways that cold weather can kill them.	Jan 06 21:53
DaemonFC	"Change out of wet clothes immediately. Wet clothes lose all of their insulation value."	Jan 06 21:54
DaemonFC	Yeah. Like it might not occur to me that wearing wet clothes outside with a wind chill of -40 is a bad idea.	Jan 06 21:54
DaemonFC	People that can't figure that out should die. It's natural selection.	Jan 06 21:55
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/09/balky-carriers-and-slow-oems-step-aside-google-is-defragging-android/	Jan 06 21:56
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| Balky carriers and slow OEMs step aside: Google is defragging Android \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/fcr2b ]	Jan 06 21:56
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DaemonFC	My screen door froze shut.	Jan 06 22:16
DaemonFC	-15 F / -26 C	Jan 06 22:17
DaemonFC	that's without the wind chill	Jan 06 22:17
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qu1j0t3	DaemonFC \| People weren't exactly buying flatscreen televisions, cell phones,	Jan 06 22:58
qu1j0t3	\| and cars in 1774.... :)	Jan 06 22:58
qu1j0t3	they were buying the equivalents.	Jan 06 22:58
qu1j0t3	whatever dumb stuff somebody could sell to them. exactly zero has chaned.	Jan 06 22:59
qu1j0t3	changed*	Jan 06 22:59
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DaemonFC	http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/01/06/cold_weather_turns_boiling_water_to_snow_eric_holthaus_video_in_wisconsin.html	Jan 06 23:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.slate.com \| Cold weather turns boiling water to snow: Eric Holthaus video in Wisconsin. [ http://ur1.ca/gctae ]	Jan 06 23:52
DaemonFC	I might have to try this.	Jan 06 23:52
DaemonFC	Without the wind chill, it's colder than a supermarket meat freezer out there.	Jan 06 23:56
DaemonFC	You only have to be outside for about 20 seconds for it to suck all the warmth right out of you.	Jan 06 23:56
DaemonFC	Hey, it does work.	Jan 07 00:01
DaemonFC	That's cool.	Jan 07 00:01
DaemonFC	I might have to do that again.	Jan 07 00:01
DaemonFC	A conservative told me that "liberal entitlement programs" (You know...The ones that cut poverty in half and keep Grandma's medication coming) are impossible to shut down.	Jan 07 00:11
DaemonFC	What he didn't mention, as I'm sure most of you are also unaware, is that conservative boondoggles are impossible to shut down. Ronald "Raygun"'s "Star Wars" program hasn't ever done anything except cost money ($400 billion and counting), and it's still going. Bush Jr. renamed this rolling catastrophe of wasted federal spending the "Missile Defense Agency".	Jan 07 00:11
DaemonFC	Like · · Share · about a minute ago · Edited ·	Jan 07 00:11
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DaemonFC	33 seconds ago	Jan 07 00:44
DaemonFC	Whip wants some?	Jan 07 00:44
DaemonFC	dammit	Jan 07 00:45
DaemonFC	autocorrect	Jan 07 00:45
DaemonFC	Who wants some?	Jan 07 00:45
DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1546210_179065412303498_1471271048_n.jpg	Jan 07 00:45
DaemonFC	https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1504028_179065425636830_1669747997_n.jpg	Jan 07 00:45
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DaemonFC	I like that....	Jan 07 01:19
DaemonFC	Bill Hicks says to his dad that he can prove that the bible is not the literal word of God.	Jan 07 01:19
DaemonFC	"Give me your bible, and I can prove it!"	Jan 07 01:19
DaemonFC	His dad: "OK"	Jan 07 01:20
DaemonFC	Hicks: "What does it say on the front?"	Jan 07 01:20
DaemonFC	His dad: "Holy Bible"	Jan 07 01:20
DaemonFC	Hicks: "What else does it say?"	Jan 07 01:20
DaemonFC	His Dad: "King James Version"	Jan 07 01:20
DaemonFC	Hicks: "King James's version! Lets take a minute and read King Willie's Version!"	Jan 07 01:21
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MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/iwCxVmj.jpg	Jan 07 02:12
Sosumi	ho lol	Jan 07 02:25
Sosumi	backwards USA	Jan 07 02:26
Sosumi	not seeing that the guy was a foreigner :(	Jan 07 02:26
Sosumi	and ho well, I just woke up and the wind is blowing so hard that if I'm not careful	Jan 07 02:27
Sosumi	I might be carried away by it	Jan 07 02:27
Sosumi	but it's not cold	Jan 07 02:27
Sosumi	it's 20 ºC inside home with no climatization	Jan 07 02:28
Sosumi	15 ºC	Jan 07 02:42
Sosumi	outside	Jan 07 02:42
Sosumi	with some light rain	Jan 07 02:42
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DaemonFC	It's terribly cold outside right now.	Jan 07 03:24
DaemonFC	I haven't left the house since Sunday.	Jan 07 03:25
DaemonFC	I hurried up and went grocery shopping before the storm hit.	Jan 07 03:25
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 07 04:23
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roy_	https://twitter.com/mancow_/status/420496719156350976	Jan 07 05:23
TechrightsBot-tr	@mancow_: @aral @schestowitz from 2010	Jan 07 05:23
roy_	https://twitter.com/mancow_/status/420496719156350976	Jan 07 05:23
roy_	https://twitter.com/sophistifunk/status/420493000809000960	Jan 07 05:24
TechrightsBot-tr	@sophistifunk: @aral @schestowitz appalling, but no longer shocking.	Jan 07 05:24
roy_	https://twitter.com/aral/status/420491790240976896	Jan 07 05:24
TechrightsBot-tr	@aral: RT @schestowitz: Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest http://t.co/1yWmevkRjk WTF? This is shocking.	Jan 07 05:24
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.mirror.co.uk \| Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest - Mirror Online	Jan 07 05:24
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3487303	Jan 07 05:27
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:	Jan 07 05:27
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by j_maltez@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_bfae711af7952b94d540.png	Jan 07 05:27
roy_	"I started so that I could follow the path of least resistance, which is often quitting...;-)))"	Jan 07 05:27
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roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3490733	Jan 07 05:45
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Boy of 12 hauled out of class by police over David Cameron Facebook protest http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boy-of-12-hauled-out-of-class-268999#.UsvHwp09L6Q.twitter no comment needed. #uk #policestate	Jan 07 05:45
roy_	"Wankers..."	Jan 07 05:45
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roy_	MinceR: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BanDKf0CMAEXElG.jpg:large	Jan 07 05:47
MinceR	+1	Jan 07 05:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Balky carriers and slow OEMs step aside: Google	Jan 07 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	is defragging Android http://t.co/xi9QqfSnJb	Jan 07 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcw1a	Jan 07 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Bringing Firefox OS to TVs, Tablets,	Jan 07 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	Desktops http://t.co/BKNwMcw9qO	Jan 07 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcw1d	Jan 07 06:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Balky carriers and slow OEMs step aside: Google is defragging Android \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 06:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla Bringing Firefox OS to TVs, Tablets, Desktops \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Developers mull adding data nuke to Kali Linux	Jan 07 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7HN3OzPbjw	Jan 07 06:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcw1g	Jan 07 06:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Developers mull adding data nuke to Kali Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 06:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Emergency Self Destruction of LUKS in Kali	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OPDHAvN7Ug	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwj2	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LG Bets on WebOS for New Smart TV Line	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UGoDtsGrWc	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwj3	Jan 07 06:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Emergency Self Destruction of LUKS in Kali \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines As Chromebook sales soar, the debate roars	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	about who it hurt http://t.co/HKLPxBYsgJ	Jan 07 06:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| LG Bets on WebOS for New Smart TV Line \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwj5	Jan 07 06:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| As Chromebook sales soar, the debate roars about who it hurt \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone Leaked Images Spotted Online	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6iONeKhjz5	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwj6	Jan 07 06:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| First Ubuntu Phone Leaked Images Spotted Online \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt 5.3+ To Have Printing Support Improvements	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xOFizknmJn	Jan 07 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwj7	Jan 07 06:58
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Qt 5.3+ To Have Printing Support Improvements \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 06:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pat Pilcher: Windows XP support ending, should	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	we be worried? http://t.co/Btp9MtJAkN	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxg	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony Class Action Over Linux On PS3 Partially	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	Revived http://t.co/rDBPfZypQ4	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxh	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Creating GNU on UNIX http://t.co/O0BG6YCS4K	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxi	Jan 07 07:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Pat Pilcher: Windows XP support ending, should we be worried? \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 07:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Sony Class Action Over Linux On PS3 Partially Revived \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP takes Android PCs commercial	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/REjABGcIMe	Jan 07 07:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Creating GNU on UNIX \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxj	Jan 07 07:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| HP takes Android PCs commercial \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nvidia's Tegra K1 tablet shows a beautiful	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	future for Android gaming	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RlLD1aNzEu	Jan 07 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcwxl	Jan 07 07:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Nvidia's Tegra K1 tablet shows a beautiful future for Android gaming \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 07:45
Sosumi	http://rense.com/1.imagesH/DavidDees-GlobalWarming.Gif	Jan 07 07:48
Sosumi	meanwhile the cold is being the scapegoat for underperforming stock and economic performance not meeting predictions	Jan 07 07:50
Sosumi	also, no unicorns	Jan 07 07:51
Sosumi	but I like cold	Jan 07 07:52
MinceR	there will be plenty of it in europe for a while after the gulf current stops	Jan 07 07:53
Sosumi	if you want me never leaving home, bring the summer	Jan 07 07:53
Sosumi	and I'll never leave my AC unit	Jan 07 07:53
MinceR	yeah, cold can at least be managed via clothing	Jan 07 07:53
MinceR	for hot, it would be nice to have a power armor with AC built-in	Jan 07 07:54
Sosumi	reactive armor	Jan 07 07:54
Sosumi	capable of deflecting radiation	Jan 07 07:54
Sosumi	the folks at fukushima would love one	Jan 07 07:55
Sosumi	and so would I	Jan 07 07:55
Sosumi	because it'd deflect infrared and UV	Jan 07 07:55
Sosumi	and dirty radiation	Jan 07 07:56
Sosumi	from radio and leakage from the electrical wires	Jan 07 07:57
Sosumi	on this case	Jan 07 07:57
Sosumi	it wouldn't be reactive	Jan 07 07:57
Sosumi	but deflective	Jan 07 07:58
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Sosumi	http://forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,8175.0.html	Jan 07 08:27
TechrightsBot-tr	forum.netkas.org \| Maxed out $10K nMP beats 91% of all computers, but oMP beats 97% OUCH !!!! [ http://ur1.ca/gcxfb ]	Jan 07 08:27
Sosumi	and doesn't suffer from cooling issues	Jan 07 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Adding Enginio (qtenginio) to the Qt release	Jan 07 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IYMEWS0vtt	Jan 07 08:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxh3	Jan 07 08:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Adding Enginio (qtenginio) to the Qt release \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 08:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Frameworks 5 Tech Preview	Jan 07 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fabDPPWnev	Jan 07 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxxe	Jan 07 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A minty fresh start http://t.co/NYfzkrJJZ8	Jan 07 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxxf	Jan 07 09:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Frameworks 5 Tech Preview \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 09:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| A minty fresh start \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla partners with Panasonic to bring	Jan 07 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	Firefox OS to the TV, details progress on	Jan 07 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	tablet and desktop versions	Jan 07 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Rot03sv2kf	Jan 07 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gcxxg	Jan 07 09:20
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla partners with Panasonic to bring Firefox OS to the TV, details progress on tablet and desktop versions \| Tux Machines	Jan 07 09:21
Sosumi	WebOS on LG TVs, Firefox OS on panasonic tvs	Jan 07 09:25
Sosumi	awesome	Jan 07 09:25
Sosumi	now lets hope there's no telemetry tools (aka viewing habits...) inserted by the OEMs	Jan 07 09:27
Sosumi	because other "smartTVs" were already using linux alongside GNU packages	Jan 07 09:29
Sosumi	but with malicious functionality built in	Jan 07 09:29
MinceR	even non-smart ones use linux	Jan 07 09:29
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 07 09:29
Sosumi	all it needs is to have some sort of post processing system to have linux	Jan 07 09:30
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8FdkMqlzco	Jan 07 09:33
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Foz do Douro tempestade Hércules - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gcy18 ]	Jan 07 09:33
MinceR	or to play from usb	Jan 07 09:33
Sosumi	yes, that too and decode the file	Jan 07 09:33
Sosumi	that's how bad coastal weather was yesterday	Jan 07 09:34
Sosumi	0.50 and everyone's running	Jan 07 09:34
Sosumi	run forrest run	Jan 07 09:34
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Sosumi	didn't have the opportunity to go see how bad maritime agitation was in the lower part of lisbon	Jan 07 09:37
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Sosumi	but I can guess it'd be around the same as in that video	Jan 07 09:39
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iophk	Updated 2x	Jan 07 09:57
iophk	http://bsdly.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-uk-porn-filter-blocks-kids-access.html	Jan 07 09:57
TechrightsBot-tr	bsdly.blogspot.com \| That grumpy BSD guy: The UK "Porn" Filter Blocks Kids' Access To Tech, Civil Liberties Websites [ http://ur1.ca/gcy7q ]	Jan 07 09:57
Sosumi	they always use porn as scapegoat for censorship	Jan 07 10:03
iophk	It's the wedge they use to get it accepted.	Jan 07 10:03
Sosumi	I also don't see any problem with porn	Jan 07 10:03
Sosumi	the "kids" will eventually have to know that stuff	Jan 07 10:04
Sosumi	or lets have sexual education, pfff	Jan 07 10:04
Sosumi	so dumb	Jan 07 10:04
MinceR	i don't see any problem with it either	Jan 07 10:06
iophk	http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240212085/Android-set-to-reach-one-billion-users-in-2014	Jan 07 10:11
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerweekly.com \| Android set to reach one billion users in 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gcyc3 ]	Jan 07 10:11
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iophk	http://www.eweek.com/mobile/android-leads-smartphones-sales-ios-share-slides-kantar.html	Jan 07 10:15
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eweek.com \| Android Leads Smartphones Sales, iOS Share Slides: Kantar [ http://ur1.ca/gcyd6 ]	Jan 07 10:15
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Sosumi	http://thenextweb.com/insider/2014/01/07/intel-ceo-brian-krzanich-announces-mcafee-brand-name-will-replaced-intel-security/#!rDKuG	Jan 07 10:56
TechrightsBot-tr	thenextweb.com \| McAfee Brand Name will be Replaced by Intel Security [ http://ur1.ca/gcynr ]	Jan 07 10:56
Sosumi	rofl	Jan 07 10:56
MinceR	InSecurity, for short	Jan 07 10:56
Sosumi	my point exactly :)	Jan 07 10:57
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Sosumi	I guess that at this point, DaemonFC must be trying to dig himself out of his flat	Jan 07 11:34
iophk	"My elation at Intel's decision is beyond words."	Jan 07 11:37
iophk	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25631183	Jan 07 11:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - CES 2014: Director loses direction as teleprompter fails [ http://ur1.ca/gd01w ]	Jan 07 11:37
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3491958	Jan 07 11:55
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember when British newspapers told us this winter would be extremely cold & it would be a white xmas? What crock. Forecasting months b4.	Jan 07 11:55
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schestowitz	"we have 10 plus degrees in Sweden there should be minus 10 at this time..."	Jan 07 11:55
iophk	more of a bad summer than any kind of a winter	Jan 07 11:56
schestowitz	"in the middle of Sweden *"	Jan 07 11:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3491382	Jan 07 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Any stories/evidence (other than one article from WSJ) that tablets are turned into listening devices, specifically in the #uk ?	Jan 07 11:57
schestowitz	"Check rms political notes. I remember a serries of links from him a few years ago. The big signs are shortened battery life and the thing being warm even when turned off. I use an ancient Nokia brick to limit the damsge that might be done but I want to move to wifi sip by separate device mifi. Open Moko was supposed to be a clean phone. It will probably be another year or two before it is easy e.nough for me to be able to have a smart	Jan 07 11:57
schestowitz	phone."	Jan 07 11:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3491738	Jan 07 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Convert Your Routers and Hubs to Free Software in Order to Dodge Back Doors http://techrights.org/2014/01/07/routers-and-hubs-back-doors/ #freesw #privacy #bt #cisco #belkin	Jan 07 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr	-> techrights.org \| Convert Your Routers and Hubs to Free Software in Order to Dodge Back Doors \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gd0qo ]	Jan 07 11:57
schestowitz	"a new software solution related: https://diasp.org/posts/2636379"	Jan 07 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr	diasp.org \| Dowse : a minimal...	Jan 07 11:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3490813	Jan 07 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fox 'news' speaks to a #drone assassin who killed thousands (mostly innocent). Notice how he smiles. http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/3020757926001/us-government-dishonest-about-drone-use/?playlist_id=937116489001	Jan 07 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr	( status 404 @ http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/3020757926001/us-government-dishonest-about-drone-use/?playlist_id=937116489001 )	Jan 07 11:57
schestowitz	"The 'smile' is where he is trying very hard to join 'the other side' mixed with a slightly nervous laughter..... in my opinion....his words are the important part."	Jan 07 11:57
schestowitz	words are cheaper than emotion	Jan 07 11:58
Sosumi	he's disconnected from the reality, probably for him it's like playing a game	Jan 07 11:59
Sosumi	if the drone gets trashed they'll just hand him another one	Jan 07 12:00
Sosumi	aka respawn	Jan 07 12:00
Sosumi	next they need field drones	Jan 07 12:03
Sosumi	or hybrid drones, that can operate in the air (remote deployment) and on the soil	Jan 07 12:04
Sosumi	powered exoskeletons would be nice too	Jan 07 12:05
Sosumi	specially if they pump the troops with stimulants	Jan 07 12:05
Sosumi	ofc that despiste my colorful ideas,	Jan 07 12:06
Sosumi	I'm just being sarcastic	Jan 07 12:06
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3490813	Jan 07 12:10
schestowitz	":)"	Jan 07 12:10
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3486196	Jan 07 12:11
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: *Another happy little dog. It's the sunday funny day!*	Jan 07 12:11
TechrightsBot-tr	Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_844fbcf071e4ed3f8120.gif	Jan 07 12:11
schestowitz	"Which means he's intelligent ... or not playful"	Jan 07 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/1cSqV1Byf1	Jan 07 12:13
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iophk	http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11182498	Jan 07 12:41
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iophk	http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/07/technology/social/zuckerberg-files/	Jan 07 13:11
TechrightsBot-tr	money.cnn.com \| The Zuckerberg Files: Here's everything Mark Zuckerberg has ever said - Jan. 7, 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gd2p3 ]	Jan 07 13:11
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iophk	"Zuckerberg has said "privacy" and "private" only 68 times in public since 2009. "	Jan 07 13:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Putting Chromebook Sales in Proper Perspective	Jan 07 13:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xd1zaZr0Sx	Jan 07 13:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu developer builds Pirate Bay torrent	Jan 07 13:54
TweetTuxMachines	search into operating system	Jan 07 13:54
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iophk	http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/us-ces-intel-mcafee-idUSBREA060YM20140107	Jan 07 15:45
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Sosumi	another virtual currency	Jan 07 16:13
Sosumi	coinye	Jan 07 16:13
Sosumi	lol	Jan 07 16:13
Sosumi	say it on a loop and it'll sound more and more to Koni	Jan 07 16:14
MinceR	west?	Jan 07 16:14
Sosumi	and if you're portuguese you'll probably spell it as cona-ye	Jan 07 16:15
Sosumi	no, the thing with "Clownye" West was because of it sounding similar to his name	Jan 07 16:16
MinceR	:)	Jan 07 16:17
Sosumi	I think I'll register a domain called clownyewest.com	Jan 07 16:17
Sosumi	make a big fuss about it	Jan 07 16:17
Sosumi	and then ask for 1 million dollars to take it down/give ownership to the real "clownye" west	Jan 07 16:18
Sosumi	http://d2oadd98wnjs7n.cloudfront.net/file_attachments/42435/files/20130830043612-Dr._Evil_1_million_dollars.gif?1377862572	Jan 07 16:19
Sosumi	also asus to trow in more affordable 4k displays	Jan 07 16:21
Sosumi	but I'd love a single ultra wide 21:9 4k display	Jan 07 16:21
Sosumi	in a 32 inches format	Jan 07 16:21
Sosumi	that'd be ok to replace my dual 24 inch displays	Jan 07 16:22
Sosumi	but one of thing I came to hate with dual displays is that one of them	Jan 07 16:22
Sosumi	usually the secondary one	Jan 07 16:23
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Sosumi	ends up with burns all over it	Jan 07 16:23
Sosumi	since it is displaying static content all the time	Jan 07 16:23
Sosumi	and is not used to watch video or play some game	Jan 07 16:23
Sosumi	and yes, mine is burned	Jan 07 16:24
Sosumi	both are HP LP2475w	Jan 07 16:24
Sosumi	featuring LG IPS panels	Jan 07 16:24
Sosumi	which are actually known for being easy to burn in	Jan 07 16:24
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Sosumi	so my focus displays has only a slight burn	Jan 07 16:25
Sosumi	while the other has burns all over it	Jan 07 16:25
Sosumi	and ofc, both are "properly" calibrated and used at 50% brightness	Jan 07 16:26
Sosumi	also, if you want to run more than 1 4k display	Jan 07 16:28
Sosumi	at 60Hz	Jan 07 16:28
Sosumi	you're going to need display port	Jan 07 16:28
Sosumi	and no nvidia card atm is coming with more than 1	Jan 07 16:29
Sosumi	only amd seems to care about it	Jan 07 16:29
Sosumi	which is sad	Jan 07 16:29
Sosumi	since there's no point to have hdmi or mini hdmi on video cards	Jan 07 16:29
Sosumi	since display port can do audio too	Jan 07 16:29
Sosumi	and be converted	Jan 07 16:29
Sosumi	but the ideal, would actually be getting rid of the dual DVI ports	Jan 07 16:30
Sosumi	for display port	Jan 07 16:30
Sosumi	and just use and adaptor if the necessary	Jan 07 16:30
MinceR	also, the McAfee video on uninstalling is awesome	Jan 07 17:19
MinceR	http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140107/AUTO01/301070017	Jan 07 17:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.detroitnews.com \| Carmakers keep data on drivers' locations \| The Detroit News [ http://ur1.ca/gd4br ]	Jan 07 17:40
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Sosumi	DaemonFC, buried in snow?	Jan 07 18:05
DaemonFC	Seems that way.	Jan 07 18:15
DaemonFC	I haven't been outside today, but it still looks bad.	Jan 07 18:15
MinceR	gn	Jan 07 18:16
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Viper550	MPAA joined W3C	Jan 07 18:22
MinceR	about time	Jan 07 18:23
MinceR	to join drm fan tim berners-lee	Jan 07 18:24
DaemonFC	I posted this to Facebook.	Jan 07 18:37
DaemonFC	The World Wide Web Consortium has just announced that it has lost all credibility as a web standards committee. It has allowed the Motion Picture Association of America in as a member, and it is considering adding Digital Restrictions Malware that Apple, Microsoft, Google, and Netflix asked for as a "standard".	Jan 07 18:37
DaemonFC	Now, it's clear that Chris Dodd, the former Senator turned MPAA kingpin is now running the W3C. Dodd was the most corrupt Senator in history. After profiteering from the Countrywide Mortgage scandal, then taking MPAA/RIAA bribes to introduce SOPA, he resigned and was immediately offered his current position at the MPAA.	Jan 07 18:37
DaemonFC	He belongs behind bars. If they ever brought charges against Dodd for even half of the felonies that he has committed, he would never see the light of day again.	Jan 07 18:37
DaemonFC	Digital Restrictions Malware is not, can not, and never will be an open standard, because as soon as you tell people how it works, it no longer does work.	Jan 07 18:37
DaemonFC	It's obvious now, that when the W3C allowed the Electronic Frontier Foundation and Mozilla to join, it did it to provide cover for this assault on our freedom. Apple, Microsoft, Google, Netflix, and Opera can out-vote and strongarm these watchdogs of freedom, so they were never going to be allowed to successfully oppose the corporate malware.	Jan 07 18:37
DaemonFC	There's too much corporate influence at W3C and their existing open standards need to be forked, and a new non-profit web standards agency needs to be created. I think it should be the Mozilla Foundation.	Jan 07 18:37
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 07 20:29
DaemonFC	I don't talk about Duck Dynasty much. Everyone that is capable of understanding what a crock of **** religious fundamentalism is already understands what it is.	Jan 07 20:29
DaemonFC	Talking about these things just plays into their hands. They wanted some free publicity. They knew that their hardcore far-right wing ****head fans would go out and buy their stuff because they want to support bigotry. The mind of a fundie isn't really that complicated.	Jan 07 20:29
DaemonFC	The Duck Dynasty guys are millionaires, and they're not dumb. They know they can make even more money by pulling the strings of simpletons. Where do you see their merchandise? Walmart. Where does trash love to shop? Walmart. OK then. We've figured out who buys this stuff.	Jan 07 20:29
DaemonFC	I understand that Walmart sells Apple products now. They're made in factories that force women to have abortions, where several workers commit suicide every day. Right-wing Christians love Apple. There's a lot of hypocrisy coming from right-wing Christians. Do you expect anything they say or do to make sense? You're going to be waiting around for a long time, and you're going to be really disappointed.	Jan 07 20:29
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 07 20:35
DaemonFC	On the other hand, Apple is talking about moving some of their Mac PC assembly back to the United States. They shut down the last plant that made desktop Macs (the PowerMac models) back in 2002.	Jan 07 20:35
DaemonFC	Amazingly, in just a little over a decade, wages in China and fuel costs have gone up enough, and wage and hour standards in the US have declined enough, that opening assembly plants in the US is profitable again. The jobs start at $9 an hour, which is like $6.95 an hour in 2002 Dollars.	Jan 07 20:35
DaemonFC	Apple plans to open mini-plants with less than 50 workers so they aren't covered by the the family medical leave act, and can quickly shut down if the workers try to organize for better pay.	Jan 07 20:35
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schestowitz	https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2616/4014256437_c52777a4c0_z.jpg	Jan 07 21:14
schestowitz	[23:27] <MinceR> to join drm fan tim berners-lee	Jan 07 21:23
schestowitz	LOL	Jan 07 21:23
schestowitz	who joins who? :-)	Jan 07 21:23
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schestowitz	MinceR: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/01/hungary-after-communism/	Jan 07 21:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.jacobinmag.com \| Hungary After Communism \| Jacobin [ http://ur1.ca/gd5ec ]	Jan 07 21:31
schestowitz	"The party’s leader, Viktor Orbán, is the most memorable of the former Communist regime’s opponents, described at the time of its 1989 overthrow by historian Timothy Garton Ash as the “fiery, black-bearded” activist who was the only speaker at dissident leader Imre Nagy’s reburial to inspire a heated response from the restive crowd. “Of all the leaders of the post-Communist era, he’s the only one they’ll build a statue	Jan 07 21:31
schestowitz	of,” as one journalist told me."	Jan 07 21:31
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Snowleaksange	http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/the-danger-of-nsa-spying-on-members-of-congress/282827/	Jan 08 00:34
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theatlantic.com \| The Danger of NSA Spying on Members of Congress - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/gd6zv ]	Jan 08 00:34
Snowleaksange	http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/01/07/california-legislators-introduce-bill-to-banish-nsa	Jan 08 00:49
TechrightsBot-tr	www.usnews.com \| California Legislators Introduce Bill To Banish NSA - US News and World Report [ http://ur1.ca/gd73h ]	Jan 08 00:49
DaemonFC	I was hoping that Chrome for Android would support extensions.	Jan 08 00:53
DaemonFC	It's not a hell of a lot better than the stock Android browser.	Jan 08 00:53
DaemonFC	It allows Google to update their rendering engine separately from the system's version, but that's about all it does.	Jan 08 00:54
DaemonFC	It doesn't support extensions, and there's no way to block ads and other annoyances.	Jan 08 00:54
DaemonFC	Things that can be annoying on a desktop web browser, such as pop ups and pop unders, are much worse when you're browsing the web on a phone or tablet.	Jan 08 00:54
DaemonFC	And, Firefox is the only browser for Android that lets you install an ad blocking plugin.	Jan 08 00:55
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Snowleaksange	just sent 500 bucks each to ted lieu and joel anderson, the cali senators who authored bill denying nsa material support from cali	Jan 08 01:10
Snowleaksange	finally someone representing me	Jan 08 01:10
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MinceR	schestowitz: orban was always such a great enemy of communism that he joined KISZ, the youth organization of MSZMS	Jan 08 01:43
MinceR	schestowitz: orban was always such a great enemy of communism that he joined KISZ, the youth organization of MSZMP, the communist state party	Jan 08 01:43
MinceR	and his actions are reminiscent of what the commie dictators like rakosi did	Jan 08 01:43
MinceR	he, like many others, were socialized in the commie dictatorship and can't think of any other way to run a country	Jan 08 01:44
MinceR	also, i think that his supposedly liberal act was merely an act	Jan 08 01:47
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MinceR	"The government is trying to make up the lost revenues with a bastardized version of the Tobin tax"	Jan 08 01:53
MinceR	they actually created lots of new taxes	Jan 08 01:53
MinceR	and increased VAT to the highest in the EU	Jan 08 01:53
MinceR	but most of the childish savages that live in this joke of a country probably still believe that the nazis "lowered the taxes"	Jan 08 01:54
Sosumi	the Tobin tax is about taxing financial transaction at the stock exchange	Jan 08 01:54
MinceR	"liberal party, the Alliance of Free Democrats"	Jan 08 01:55
Sosumi	and that also means the killing of HFT and some kinds of derivatives	Jan 08 01:55
MinceR	any party that votes in favor of criminalizing holocaust denial is against freedom of speech, and as such, is not a "liberal party"	Jan 08 01:55
MinceR	hungarians have no idea what liberalism is	Jan 08 01:55
Sosumi	which I am all for it	Jan 08 01:55
Sosumi	actually, I'm all for banning derivatives	Jan 08 01:56
MinceR	afaik these so-called "liberals" also voted for the "objective responsibility" law, which was the first blow against rule of law	Jan 08 01:56
MinceR	Sosumi: they're actually taxing pretty much all bank transactions	Jan 08 01:56
MinceR	and not using the money to insure the banks	Jan 08 01:56
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Sosumi	not in here	Jan 08 02:04
Sosumi	we still have no financial transaction tax	Jan 08 02:04
Sosumi	the nearest country to actually have one is italy	Jan 08 02:04
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Sosumi	also the kind of liberalism you see around is a decadent-liberalism	Jan 08 02:05
Sosumi	the real liberalism could be said that it started with jefferson, Ben Franklin, Hamilton and son on	Jan 08 02:06
Sosumi	*so on	Jan 08 02:06
Sosumi	this kind of liberalism you see today is the rejection of all morals	Jan 08 02:06
Sosumi	and that is why you merger between the private powers and public office	Jan 08 02:07
Sosumi	also the revolving door	Jan 08 02:07
Sosumi	and criminalizing holocaust denial?	Jan 08 02:08
Sosumi	lol, that equals, if you criticize the official story, you immediately get labeled as a denier	Jan 08 02:09
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 02:09
Sosumi	and those holocaust numbers are way off and so is much of rethoric about it	Jan 08 02:09
MinceR	it also means that the government decides what people are supposed to believe	Jan 08 02:09
Sosumi	in most cases it was to instill guilt into the germans in order to just comply and be ashamed	Jan 08 02:10
Sosumi	stallin and mao	Jan 08 02:10
MinceR	and instead of supplying the existing proof, the response to holocaust denial is to turn it into something that looks like some secret truth the government is afraid of	Jan 08 02:10
Sosumi	killed way more ppl than the shicklegruber guy	Jan 08 02:10
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 02:10
MinceR	though they were not as proud of it as the schicklgruber guy	Jan 08 02:11
MinceR	they tried to hide a lot of it	Jan 08 02:11
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 08 02:11
MinceR	for example, they tried to pretend that the nazis did the katyn massacre	Jan 08 02:12
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Sosumi	yeah I read about that and a ton of other conflicting stories	Jan 08 02:17
Sosumi	there was also the Augustów roundup	Jan 08 02:19
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DaemonFC	http://stallman.org/archives/2013-nov-feb.html#06_January_2014_%28US_gov%27t_goes_to_cruel_extremes_to_collect_college_debt%29	Jan 08 02:48
TechrightsBot-tr	stallman.org \| 2013: November - February Political Notes - Richard Stallman [ http://ur1.ca/gd7s3 ]	Jan 08 02:48
DaemonFC	"a large part of these debts were for payments to for-profit colleges that tend to be a waste of money in the first place."	Jan 08 02:48
DaemonFC	The Art Institute	Jan 08 02:48
DaemonFC	http://petapixel.com/2011/09/02/us-gov-sues-the-art-institutes-for-11-billion-fraud/	Jan 08 02:49
TechrightsBot-tr	petapixel.com \| US Gov Sues The Art Institutes for $11 Billion Fraud [ http://ur1.ca/gd7sc ]	Jan 08 02:49
DaemonFC	Someone I know went there and ended up with no job and lots of debt.	Jan 08 02:49
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DaemonFC	http://networkedblogs.com/SDdaz	Jan 08 03:15
TechrightsBot-tr	networkedblogs.com \| Welcoming the CentOS Community to the Red Hat family.	Jan 08 03:15
DaemonFC	Red Hat is now sponsoring the CentOS project.	Jan 08 03:16
DaemonFC	schestowitz, Might want to include that in your links.	Jan 08 03:16
DaemonFC	http://community.redhat.com/centos-faq/	Jan 08 03:16
TechrightsBot-tr	community.redhat.com \| Red Hat + CentOS — Red Hat Open Source Community	Jan 08 03:16
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 03:33
DaemonFC	Right-wing Christians: "God created everything and everyone!"	Jan 08 03:33
DaemonFC	Everything and everyone?	Jan 08 03:33
DaemonFC	Right-wing Christians: "That's right!"	Jan 08 03:33
DaemonFC	Even Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 03:33
DaemonFC	Right-wing Christians: "Err, uhhm, uhhhh...."	Jan 08 03:33
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MinceR	lol	Jan 08 04:06
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DaemonFC	https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1601485_702071639814704_1112690263_n.jpg	Jan 08 04:16
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 04:18
MinceR	geekings	Jan 08 04:19
schestowitz	DaemonFC: centos?	Jan 08 04:24
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 08 04:32
DaemonFC	MinceR, Did God create everything or did God not create Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 04:39
DaemonFC	I'm confused.	Jan 08 04:39
DaemonFC	Who created Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 04:39
MinceR	DaemonFC: "God" doesn't exist, never did, and neither do those particular hypothetical "Adam" and "Steve"	Jan 08 04:39
DaemonFC	I know. I mean, Christians say that God created everything.	Jan 08 04:40
MinceR	:>	Jan 08 04:40
DaemonFC	But they also say that God did not create Adam and Steve.	Jan 08 04:40
DaemonFC	So, who created Adam and Steve?	Jan 08 04:40
DaemonFC	And if he didn't create Adam and Steve, is there a particular Adam and Steve that he didn't create, or does this apply to anyone named Adam or Steve?	Jan 08 04:41
MinceR	ask a christian :>	Jan 08 04:41
DaemonFC	Does it include my uncle Steve?	Jan 08 04:41
DaemonFC	Why would parents name their children Adam or Steve? Wouldn't they want God to approve of their children?	Jan 08 04:41
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 08 04:41
MinceR	i certainly wouldn't	Jan 08 04:47
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 06:32
DaemonFC	If the Republicans want to do us the ultimate favor, I'd suggest that they line up to perform Seppuku, one by one, live on C-SPAN. It's really the least that they owe the American people at this point.	Jan 08 06:32
DaemonFC	Failing that, someone can send Senator Rand Paul some of Kentucky's finest crystal meth. The stuff brewed up by desperate unemployed coal miners that lost their job due to natural gas and then had their unemployment insurance cut, as Senator Paul said, as a "favor" to them. They could mix it into his coffee. It would provide us with at least several minutes of entertainment as he runs through the Senate chamber, tweaking and puking his guts	Jan 08 06:32
DaemonFC	out.	Jan 08 06:32
Sosumi	didn't allah create everything?	Jan 08 06:34
Sosumi	dum christians :)	Jan 08 06:34
Sosumi	*dumb	Jan 08 06:35
MinceR	"allah" is just "god" in arabic	Jan 08 06:37
MinceR	afaik	Jan 08 06:37
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MinceR	(and therefore refers to yahweh all the same)	Jan 08 06:38
Sosumi	I was just trolling	Jan 08 06:39
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Sosumi	http://www.macrumors.com/2014/01/08/ces-2014-flir-systems-debuts-flir-one-thermal-camera-case-for-iphone-5s-and-iphone-5/	Jan 08 06:40
TechrightsBot-tr	www.macrumors.com \| CES 2014: FLIR Systems Debuts 'FLIR ONE' Thermal Camera Case for iPhone 5s and iPhone 5 - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gd8w1 ]	Jan 08 06:40
Sosumi	it's for the hypephone	Jan 08 06:40
Sosumi	but, that means you'll finally be able to see thermal signatures on a numberpad lock	Jan 08 06:41
Sosumi	like sam fisher from splinter cell :P	Jan 08 06:41
MinceR	still doesn't make it worth buying a hypePhone	Jan 08 06:41
Sosumi	well you can always punch someone in the face and get his	Jan 08 06:42
Sosumi	or politely ask a friend for his older model	Jan 08 06:42
MinceR	or just look for an equivalent that doesn't require a hypePhone	Jan 08 06:43
Sosumi	that too	Jan 08 06:43
MinceR	or just hack a camera, remove the IR filter	Jan 08 06:43
DaemonFC	"That's strange. According to these readings, your body is at room temperature. Oh wait, my phone froze again. Shit."	Jan 08 06:44
Sosumi	the ideal, would be some googles capable of night vision and thermal	Jan 08 06:44
MinceR	lol	Jan 08 06:44
Sosumi	ninjas are cool and penetration testing is fun	Jan 08 06:45
Sosumi	even if you do it for the kicks	Jan 08 06:45
Sosumi	plus this isn't the US and you wont get shot	Jan 08 06:46
DaemonFC	I pointed out on Amazon Forums that I had sex, dated, and used drugs when I was a teenager.	Jan 08 06:46
DaemonFC	It was a post I made about the UK's porn censor.	Jan 08 06:46
Sosumi	security guards don't even carry guns	Jan 08 06:46
DaemonFC	I said "...and I had a really great time. Sorry!"	Jan 08 06:46
Sosumi	at most you get chased down, but if you're not slacker you'll be able to outrun them	Jan 08 06:46
Sosumi	lol	Jan 08 06:47
MinceR	slacker? i don't even know 'er!	Jan 08 06:47
Sosumi	I meant slacker in the kind of staying in shape	Jan 08 06:47
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 06:47
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MinceR	that shape could be round	Jan 08 06:48
Sosumi	terminator shape	Jan 08 06:48
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 06:48
DaemonFC	I posted on Amazon Forums:	Jan 08 07:28
DaemonFC	When you get a right-wing extremist, they're setting fire to gay bars, trying to make sure that the next Adam Lanza can get an uzi, and trying to murder Congressmen.	Jan 08 07:28
DaemonFC	When you get a left-wing extremist, Bernie Sanders talks about expanding Social Security benefits and increasing the minimum wage to $10.	Jan 08 07:28
DaemonFC	Gee. Let me think.... Who do I want running this country?	Jan 08 07:28
DaemonFC	http://www.nbcnews.com/id/53999212#.Uswl4fvfjd4	Jan 08 07:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.nbcnews.com \| Ex-Cops Faked Disabilities: DA - Local News - New York, NY \| NBC News [ http://ur1.ca/gd95c ]	Jan 08 07:44
DaemonFC	The cops said that they couldn't shop or drive, and then they posted pictures of themselves on jet skis while they were buying shit with their credit cards.	Jan 08 07:45
DaemonFC	The government got most of its evidence from Facebook posts from the "disabled" cops.	Jan 08 07:45
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DaemonFC	I was watching a Mr. Bean video on Youtube yesterday.	Jan 08 08:13
DaemonFC	It was the Christmas one. He's in a department store and playing around with a nativity scene.	Jan 08 08:13
DaemonFC	He attacks it with a toy dalek and T-Rex.	Jan 08 08:14
DaemonFC	That was the funniest thing I've seen in a while.	Jan 08 08:14
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fewt	Bernie Sanders is a smart guy	Jan 08 08:27
fewt	he makes a lot of sense	Jan 08 08:27
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MinceR	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/	Jan 08 08:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.wired.com \| OnStar Tracks Your Car Even When You Cancel Service \| Threat Level \| Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/gd9iy ]	Jan 08 08:59
iophk	http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2321676/red-hat-partners-with-centos-to-drive-open-source-innovation-in-cloud	Jan 08 09:32
TechrightsBot-tr	www.v3.co.uk \| Red Hat partners with CentOS to drive open source innovation in cloud - IT News from V3.co.uk [ http://ur1.ca/gd9no ]	Jan 08 09:32
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iophk	"Yahoo Tech, another magazine, is helmed by former New York Times tech columnist David Pogue, who came onstage to launch the new site."	Jan 08 09:46
iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/kate-couric-vs-david-pogue-who-will-be-the-new-face-of-yahoo/2014/01/07/3b306db6-77eb-11e3-af7f-13bf0e9965f6_story.html	Jan 08 09:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| Kate Couric vs. David Pogue: Who will be the new face of Yahoo? - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/gd9qm ]	Jan 08 09:46
Sosumi	http://gizmodo.com/i-wore-the-new-oculus-rift-and-i-never-want-to-look-at-1496569598	Jan 08 09:49
TechrightsBot-tr	gizmodo.com \| I Wore the New Oculus Rift and I Never Want to Look at Real Life Again [ http://ur1.ca/gd9r3 ]	Jan 08 09:49
Sosumi	oculus rift would be awesome if you could actually use it as a display replacement	Jan 08 09:50
Sosumi	and aside the head tracking feature they built in now	Jan 08 09:51
Sosumi	it needs brain sensors so that you can control basic desktop functionality with thought	Jan 08 09:52
Sosumi	kind of like zooming in/out a virtual desktop	Jan 08 09:52
Sosumi	display all the virtual desktops	Jan 08 09:52
Sosumi	namely, window manipulation	Jan 08 09:52
Sosumi	I've already had folks complaining that they wouldn't be able to see their keyboards	Jan 08 09:53
Sosumi	but hey, I type without looking at my kb	Jan 08 09:54
Sosumi	DAS also has a KB without key prints	Jan 08 09:54
MinceR	others do too	Jan 08 09:54
Sosumi	and some keyprints on my KB are so vanished that I really don't care either	Jan 08 09:54
MinceR	iirc das uses crappy costar stabilizers, though	Jan 08 09:54
Sosumi	duno	Jan 08 09:55
Sosumi	I kind of only like the steelseries 7g	Jan 08 09:55
Sosumi	which is the model I have	Jan 08 09:55
Sosumi	and it feels excelent to type on it	Jan 08 09:56
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MinceR	i like my cherry ML-based cherry keyboards and my logitech G710+	Jan 08 09:56
Sosumi	mine has cherry mx black	Jan 08 09:56
MinceR	the latter has mx brown	Jan 08 09:57
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iophk	http://www.ibtimes.com/wall-street-journal-closes-allthingsd-tech-news-section-replaced-wsjd-founders-launch-recode-1530428	Jan 08 10:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.com \| Wall Street Journal Closes AllThingsD: Tech News Section Replaced By WSJD; Founders Launch Re/Code [ http://ur1.ca/gd9tj ]	Jan 08 10:05
Sosumi	does that kb need drivers?	Jan 08 10:05
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Sosumi	I actually went for the 7g because of it being ps/2 and not needing any drivers for working	Jan 08 10:06
Sosumi	and I kind of prefer mx black keys	Jan 08 10:06
Sosumi	because they feel just right	Jan 08 10:06
MinceR	the g710+ works without extra drivers, though it does enter some numbers when plugged in or unplugged without the driver	Jan 08 10:07
MinceR	i was too lazy to install the driver	Jan 08 10:07
Sosumi	is there any driver for linux at all? :)	Jan 08 10:07
MinceR	i prefer usb for hotplug and mx brown (or ml, or blue) so i can feel where the switching happens	Jan 08 10:07
MinceR	yes there is	Jan 08 10:07
Sosumi	I just prefer ps/2 because of the cpu overhead of usb	Jan 08 10:08
Sosumi	and ps/2 is hot plug in some boards	Jan 08 10:08
MinceR	most of my computers don't even have ps/2 ports	Jan 08 10:09
Sosumi	lol	Jan 08 10:09
MinceR	also, what boards support ps/2 hotplug?	Jan 08 10:10
MinceR	and won't it still damage the keyboard controller?	Jan 08 10:10
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 08 10:10
Sosumi	but at least I remember the asus p4c800 deluxe	Jan 08 10:11
Sosumi	allowing that on both mouse and kb port	Jan 08 10:11
Sosumi	haven't tested it on my asus rampage 4 e	Jan 08 10:12
Sosumi	and those laptops from the past	Jan 08 10:14
Sosumi	also allowed hot plugging of ps/2 stuff	Jan 08 10:14
Sosumi	even my compaq armada did that	Jan 08 10:14
MinceR	and how do you know that the asus p4c800 supports ps/2 hotplug?	Jan 08 10:15
Sosumi	I had one	Jan 08 10:15
Sosumi	and remember hot plugging both mouse and kb once	Jan 08 10:15
MinceR	did it say it supported it or did it just not fry itself when you did it?	Jan 08 10:15
Sosumi	it said hot plugging in the same way they say hot plugging for USB	Jan 08 10:16
Sosumi	not a single word	Jan 08 10:16
Sosumi	I just did it	Jan 08 10:16
MinceR	so you just got lucky	Jan 08 10:16
MinceR	usb officially supports hotplugging	Jan 08 10:16
Sosumi	I see that now	Jan 08 10:18
Sosumi	it comes up with the quality of the controler	Jan 08 10:18
Sosumi	but it should be avoided	Jan 08 10:18
Sosumi	only did it once on that mobo when I received both new kb and mice	Jan 08 10:21
MinceR	:)	Jan 08 10:21
Sosumi	as for the laptop, I did it with a mouse, countless of times and I've seen ppl also doing it tons of times	Jan 08 10:22
Sosumi	and I've never heard anyone complaining	Jan 08 10:23
iophk	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2429236,00.asp	Jan 08 10:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pcmag.com \| Microsoft Xbox #Fail \| John C. Dvorak \| PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/gd9wz ]	Jan 08 10:23
MinceR	m$ fails at making hardware, what a surprise	Jan 08 10:23
iophk	maybe the fires are less frequent though	Jan 08 10:24
Sosumi	ppl have got to be dumb to buy consoles	Jan 08 10:24
Sosumi	cheap and crippled drm boxes	Jan 08 10:25
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 10:25
Sosumi	and even the ps3 broke	Jan 08 10:25
MinceR	well, except for some independent "consoles"	Jan 08 10:25
iophk	ps3 breaking was intentional	Jan 08 10:25
MinceR	like the pandora	Jan 08 10:25
Sosumi	with the first casualty being the blu-ray drive	Jan 08 10:25
Sosumi	the second was the solder	Jan 08 10:25
Sosumi	needing ppl to go grab heat guns	Jan 08 10:26
Sosumi	and reflux the solder	Jan 08 10:26
iophk	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/playstation-3-other-os-saga-jailbreaking-not-crime	Jan 08 10:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.eff.org \| PlayStation 3 "Other OS" Saga Shows: Jailbreaking Is Not a Crime \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/gd9xo ]	Jan 08 10:26
Sosumi	if you really want to game, get a decent computer and boot winblows just for that	Jan 08 10:26
MinceR	unless it runs on gnu/linux :>	Jan 08 10:27
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 08 10:27
Sosumi	and sony killed the other OS because ppl found ways to get to the RSX	Jan 08 10:28
iophk	http://www.itproportal.com/2010/04/29/sony-being-sued-over-other-os-removal/	Jan 08 10:28
Sosumi	which was basically a crippled 7800 GT	Jan 08 10:28
TechrightsBot-tr	www.itproportal.com \| Sony being sued over Other OS removal \| ITProPortal.com [ http://ur1.ca/gd9y0 ]	Jan 08 10:28
Sosumi	anyone remembers E3 2006?	Jan 08 10:28
iophk	E3?	Jan 08 10:29
Sosumi	not 2006, 2005	Jan 08 10:29
Sosumi	yeah E3	Jan 08 10:29
Sosumi	Electronic Entertainment Expo	Jan 08 10:30
Sosumi	CES of video games	Jan 08 10:30
Sosumi	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g1fr5vk72M	Jan 08 10:31
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Giant Enemy Crab! Massive Damage mix - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gd9yn ]	Jan 08 10:31
Sosumi	all I can remember was this	Jan 08 10:31
Sosumi	lawl	Jan 08 10:31
Sosumi	that game told me that in ancient japan there were giant crabs	Jan 08 10:32
Sosumi	and that you had to flip them in order to deliver MASSIVE DAMAGE	Jan 08 10:32
MinceR	i thought you had to do 50 or more points to deliver massive damage :>	Jan 08 10:33
Sosumi	no idea	Jan 08 10:33
MinceR	(D&D reference)	Jan 08 10:33
Sosumi	ask the dev or someone with the game	Jan 08 10:33
Sosumi	not really a fan of D&D	Jan 08 10:33
Sosumi	actually I've never bothered to check anything about D&D	Jan 08 10:34
iophk	http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/01/08/china-smoking-idINL3N0KI2SW20140108	Jan 08 10:34
TechrightsBot-tr	in.reuters.com \| China aims to ban smoking in public places by end of the year \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gd9z7 ]	Jan 08 10:34
Sosumi	that is ok, just because someone likes to be a human chimney doesn't mean that I like or want to take with his smoke	Jan 08 10:35
Sosumi	and end up with my clothes smelling funny	Jan 08 10:35
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 10:35
MinceR	and they like to choose the highest traffic areas too	Jan 08 10:36
Sosumi	in here, if ppl want to smoke, they either do it outside or go to special room	Jan 08 10:36
MinceR	same here, but when outside, they still like to blow it onto other people	Jan 08 10:37
MinceR	as if not having a roof above you made it ok	Jan 08 10:38
iophk	usually they choose to stand upwind when they can	Jan 08 10:38
iophk	so that the smoke blows over other people	Jan 08 10:38
Sosumi	I've seen that	Jan 08 10:38
Sosumi	but never happened to me	Jan 08 10:38
Sosumi	could you consider someone blowing toxic smoke on your face being considered an aggression?	Jan 08 10:39
MinceR	i suppose so	Jan 08 10:39
MinceR	also, hungarians are probably more barbaric than western europeans	Jan 08 10:39
Sosumi	how so?	Jan 08 10:40
MinceR	for example, they've decided on their own to go back to dictatorship	Jan 08 10:41
Sosumi	ho lol	Jan 08 10:42
MinceR	and they didn't seem to mind when the nazis destroyed the remaining freedom of speech and rule of law	Jan 08 10:42
MinceR	also, i'd like to think that the people i'd meet on the street on other countries are more civilized	Jan 08 10:42
Sosumi	it's pretty much around the same everywhere	Jan 08 10:44
iophk	http://www.zdnet.com/red-hat-incorporates-free-red-hat-clone-centos-7000024907/	Jan 08 10:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat incorporates 'free' Red Hat clone CentOS \| ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gda17 ]	Jan 08 10:45
Sosumi	don't think that the ppl you meet around the street are all fine	Jan 08 10:45
Sosumi	you usually encounter the typical jerk or group of jerks when you least expect	Jan 08 10:45
Sosumi	it	Jan 08 10:45
abeNd-org	all humans are jerks	Jan 08 10:46
abeNd-org	they are only nice when it suits them to forward their own adjenda	Jan 08 10:47
Sosumi	abeNd-org, your lack of faith in humanity is disturbing	Jan 08 10:48
Sosumi	http://pipocaenanquim.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/El-Emperador-Palpatine-y-Darth-Vader.jpg	Jan 08 10:48
Sosumi	I'm nice to everyone, but ofc, if I want keep or have a closer relationship with someone	Jan 08 10:50
Sosumi	well ofc that person is going to get special attention	Jan 08 10:51
Sosumi	but that doesn't mean harm or injury to that person	Jan 08 10:51
Sosumi	and in the relationship or say cooperation, bears fruits	Jan 08 10:52
Sosumi	seeing it too negatively and your social life will end up being a trainwreck	Jan 08 10:54
iophk	http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9244898/4_reasons_companies_say_yes_to_open_source	Jan 08 10:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerworld.com \| 4 reasons companies say yes to open source - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gda3n ]	Jan 08 10:59
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Sosumi	I can tell the top reason	Jan 08 11:09
Sosumi	no more dumb fees when moving from xp	Jan 08 11:10
iophk	or software that actually works ...	Jan 08 11:10
MinceR	also, no more idiotic GUIs like ribbon and metro	Jan 08 11:10
Sosumi	that is under dumb fees	Jan 08 11:10
MinceR	that require retraining everyone	Jan 08 11:10
Sosumi	dumb fees	Jan 08 11:10
MinceR	(and permanently decrease productivity regardless of training)	Jan 08 11:11
iophk	MinceR: that is probably the goal.	Jan 08 11:11
Sosumi	but the problem is that everything moved to ribbon	Jan 08 11:11
iophk	a decrease in productivity means an increase in stress and panic	Jan 08 11:11
MinceR	not everything	Jan 08 11:11
Sosumi	autocad, matlab to name a few	Jan 08 11:11
MinceR	afaict no free software moved to ribbon	Jan 08 11:12
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 08 11:12
Sosumi	but having matlab migrate to ribbon was plain dumb	Jan 08 11:12
iophk	no mention of LibreOffice or OpenOffice.org: http://www.infoworld.com/d/microsoft-windows/moving-office-365-dig-deep-your-options-first-233663	Jan 08 11:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.infoworld.com \| Moving to Office 365? Dig deep into your options first \| Microsoft Windows - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gda6h ]	Jan 08 11:12
Sosumi	old menu model worked a lot better	Jan 08 11:12
MinceR	perhaps it's time to move to octave? :>	Jan 08 11:13
Sosumi	way too much backcatalog in order to migrate	Jan 08 11:14
Sosumi	and I'm still migrating from osx	Jan 08 11:14
Sosumi	for 1 year and 2 months now	Jan 08 11:14
Sosumi	also teachers and everyone uses matlab	Jan 08 11:15
Sosumi	and they teach matlab at university	Jan 08 11:15
Sosumi	so even dropping matlab is impossible at moment	Jan 08 11:16
Sosumi	it is just like skype,	Jan 08 11:16
Sosumi	I have an account because I'm forced to	Jan 08 11:16
Sosumi	not because I want to	Jan 08 11:16
MinceR	i know what it's like	Jan 08 11:16
MinceR	i had a m$n messenger account because i was forced to	Jan 08 11:17
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/markhughes/status/420888350342787072	Jan 08 11:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@markhughes: .@schestowitz only spying is necessary to destroy #democracy, no actual misuse of information need take place. Free thought gets destroyed.	Jan 08 11:32
schestowitz	self censorship	Jan 08 11:32
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iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/08/why-sonys-ps4-is-crushing-microsofts-xbox-one-in-sales-so-far/	Jan 08 12:00
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Why Sony's PS4 Is Crushing Microsoft's Xbox One In Sales So Far - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gdad5 ]	Jan 08 12:00
Sosumi	more powerful hardware and better games	Jan 08 12:05
Sosumi	the ps vita complement is also nice	Jan 08 12:05
Sosumi	what does M$ have?	Jan 08 12:05
Sosumi	bad rep from the past gen, weaker HW and no games	Jan 08 12:06
Sosumi	while costing 100€ +	Jan 08 12:06
iophk	and an always-on camera and mic	Jan 08 12:06
iophk	connected to the net	Jan 08 12:06
Sosumi	for the snoopnect camera	Jan 08 12:06
Sosumi	almost forgot	Jan 08 12:07
Sosumi	and replaceable HDD	Jan 08 12:07
Sosumi	just like the ps3	Jan 08 12:07
Sosumi	no 99€ for just 20 GB	Jan 08 12:08
Sosumi	like it was with xbox 2	Jan 08 12:08
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/19/xbox_recall_nofix/	Jan 08 12:10
iophk	http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/19/xbox-360-power-supply-pinpointed-as-cause-of-house-fire/	Jan 08 12:10
iophk	consistency across models	Jan 08 12:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| After cable recall, Xbox's still frying • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gdai6 ]	Jan 08 12:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.engadget.com \| Xbox 360 power supply pinpointed as cause of house fire [ http://ur1.ca/gdai8 ]	Jan 08 12:11
Sosumi	don't worry	Jan 08 12:12
Sosumi	there are plenty of disc read error of death for the ps2	Jan 08 12:13
Sosumi	and sony not acknowledging the issue	Jan 08 12:13
iophk	http://hothardware.com/News/Why-Youre-Better-Off-Exchanging-a-Faulty-Xbox-One-Console-InStore/	Jan 08 12:13
Sosumi	I actually have an original xbox	Jan 08 12:13
TechrightsBot-tr	hothardware.com \| Why You're Better Off Exchanging a Faulty Xbox One Console In-Store - HotHardware [ http://ur1.ca/gdakd ]	Jan 08 12:13
Sosumi	not launch ofc	Jan 08 12:13
Sosumi	but only bought it for shemue	Jan 08 12:14
Sosumi	and ninja gaiden	Jan 08 12:14
Sosumi	although I think that I should have gotten a dreamcast instead	Jan 08 12:14
Sosumi	when they were on fire sale for 90€	Jan 08 12:15
Sosumi	after sega canceled them	Jan 08 12:15
Sosumi	but 2000 and before consoles were a lot more reliable	Jan 08 12:18
Sosumi	despite sony's and nintendo's DRE problems	Jan 08 12:19
Sosumi	there were never major issues with consoles bricking	Jan 08 12:19
Sosumi	or requiring constant servicing	Jan 08 12:19
Sosumi	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/01/07/dell-wasnt-joking-about-that-28-inch-sub-1000-4k-monitor-its-only-699/	Jan 08 12:21
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Dell Wasn't Joking About That 28-Inch Sub-$1000 4K Monitor; It's Only $699 - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gdaot ]	Jan 08 12:21
Sosumi	now we need ips vs igzo comparisons	Jan 08 12:22
Sosumi	specially on things like lag, color reproduction, refreshing (applies to this new batch of 4k displays) and ghosting	Jan 08 12:26
Sosumi	but I still wish they sold crt monitors	Jan 08 12:26
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iophk	"drivers would be able to access email, apps and music"	Jan 08 13:54
iophk	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/ces/10553554/Google-wants-an-Android-in-every-Audi-and-Honda.html	Jan 08 13:54
iophk	what could possibly go wrong?	Jan 08 13:54
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Google wants an Android in every Audi and Honda - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gdc2j ]	Jan 08 13:54
abeNd-org	Sosumi: I can only work with my own personal experiences with people, they are what make my opinion of humanity negative	Jan 08 14:07
iophk	http://www.universityherald.com/articles/6664/20140107/uva-student-arrested-and-jailed-for-water-mistaken-for-beer-plans-civil-lawsuit-against-state.htm	Jan 08 14:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.universityherald.com \| UVa Student Arrested and Jailed For Water Mistaken for Beer Plans Civil Lawsuit Against State : News : University Herald [ http://ur1.ca/gdc9w ]	Jan 08 14:18
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iophk	http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2014/0107/Burglars-who-embarrassed-FBI-in-unsolved-document-heist-come-forward-video	Jan 08 15:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.csmonitor.com \| Burglars who embarrassed FBI in unsolved document heist come forward (+video) - CSMonitor.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdckx ]	Jan 08 15:08
iophk	"The leaked papers included, too, the first references to COINTELPRO"	Jan 08 15:09
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Sosumi	abeNd-org, that is also my personal based on my dealings with ppl	Jan 08 15:47
Sosumi	*opinion	Jan 08 15:47
DaemonFC	OMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 16:16
DaemonFC	I would think that fundamentalist Christians would approve of the choice that educated professionals typically make to have few children.	Jan 08 16:16
DaemonFC	Eventually, the world will be covered with religious fundamentalists that have 20 children and go on welfare (they call it "draining the beast"), society will collapse because there will no longer be enough educated liberals paying taxes to cover all of this, and the fundies can go back to throwing poo at each other.	Jan 08 16:16
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 16:46
DaemonFC	Only Walmart gives you the satisfaction of knowing that hundreds of Bangladeshi factory workers died in a fire making your Duck Dynasty crap so that you can wear it on COPS when the police are interviewing you about beating your wife.	Jan 08 16:46
Sosumi	Duffy Duck Dynasty?	Jan 08 16:48
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2MDZ00PCVJ8GL	Jan 08 16:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Thanks to freedom of religion, the Satanic Temple has designed a statue to be placed on the Oklahoma capital grounds. [ http://ur1.ca/gdd21 ]	Jan 08 16:52
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 16:52
DaemonFC	http://www.alternet.org/satan-worshippers-want-place-statue-oklahoma-capitol	Jan 08 16:52
DaemonFC	The statue will even be functional. It's going to be a chair, so that you can sit in the dark lord's lap.	Jan 08 16:52
DaemonFC	Priceless....	Jan 08 16:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.alternet.org \| Satan-Worshippers Want to Place Devil Statue In Oklahoma Capitol \| Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gdd23 ]	Jan 08 16:52
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 16:52
DaemonFC	I can't wait until parents have to tell their children to quit sitting on Baphomet's lap because he isn't bringing them their Christmas presents.	Jan 08 16:52
MinceR	nice	Jan 08 16:53
MinceR	the bible-humpers had it coming	Jan 08 16:54
DaemonFC	Tomcat™ says:	Jan 08 16:59
DaemonFC	Right. A 24 year-old smoker gets a Silver Plan with no deductible for $56.	Jan 08 16:59
DaemonFC	Totally believable. eyes looking like Marty Feldman	Jan 08 16:59
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 16:59
DaemonFC	I didn't believe it myself until I clicked "Buy policy".	Jan 08 16:59
DaemonFC	His affordability credit is $236 a month. They give you a choice between putting it on your tax return or applying it to your premium each month. I don't know why you'd put it on your tax return. For most people, it would just give predatory bill collectors or child support something else to take.	Jan 08 16:59
Sosumi	I want to sit in there	Jan 08 17:00
Sosumi	with this song on the background	Jan 08 17:00
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNKttMFgaf0	Jan 08 17:00
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Black Sabbath N.I.B lyrics in description - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdd3b ]	Jan 08 17:00
Sosumi	legendary	Jan 08 17:00
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 17:36
DaemonFC	By total wealth, the United States is the richest country in the world, unless you take out a few thousand millionaires and billionaires and leave the other 350 million.	Jan 08 17:36
DaemonFC	Most people that aren't Bill Gates don't benefit from the fact that Bill Gates lives here.	Jan 08 17:36
MinceR	in fact, they suffer from it	Jan 08 17:37
DaemonFC	"Any woman who marries for love gets exactly what she deserves, a shitty wring and four bratty kids." -Joan Rivers	Jan 08 18:15
DaemonFC	*ring	Jan 08 18:15
MinceR	marriage is overrated	Jan 08 18:17
Sosumi	http://bos.sagepub.com/content/70/1/32.full	Jan 08 18:25
TechrightsBot-tr	bos.sagepub.com \| Stopping killer robots [ http://ur1.ca/gdde8 ]	Jan 08 18:25
Sosumi	algos determining who lives and who dies	Jan 08 18:25
Sosumi	also, marriage, never fall for that	Jan 08 18:26
Sosumi	say it like I do	Jan 08 18:26
MinceR	i'd like to have an army of killbots	Jan 08 18:26
MinceR	much more trustworthy than humans	Jan 08 18:27
Sosumi	marriage isn't a proof of afection towards the other partner	Jan 08 18:27
MinceR	yeah, it just makes breaking up more costly	Jan 08 18:27
Sosumi	and actually, violence only happens after marriage	Jan 08 18:27
MinceR	and lets the state meddle with your partnership	Jan 08 18:28
Sosumi	because now, specially if you are women, you'll be entrapped, sometimes in shame to an abusive dude	Jan 08 18:28
Sosumi	and a divorce costs 250€ and it's a lot of paperwork	Jan 08 18:29
Sosumi	and division of goods acquired after marriage and so on	Jan 08 18:29
Sosumi	my uncle learn that lesson hard	Jan 08 18:30
Sosumi	after his now ex-wife decided to cheat on him	Jan 08 18:30
Sosumi	and ended up selling his house and give her half the cash	Jan 08 18:31
Sosumi	even through he paid for everything	Jan 08 18:31
Sosumi	so it works on both ways	Jan 08 18:31
Sosumi	*learned	Jan 08 18:31
Sosumi	"marriage isn't proof of anything" - Sosumi	Jan 08 18:32
Sosumi	quote is licensed under GPL version 3	Jan 08 18:32
Sosumi	http://www.blacklistednews.com/EU_Draws_Up_Plans_to_Send_Troops_to_Central_Africa/31848/0/38/38/Y/M.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter	Jan 08 18:34
TechrightsBot-tr	www.blacklistednews.com \| EU Draws Up Plans to Send Troops to Central Africa [ http://ur1.ca/gddey ]	Jan 08 18:34
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Sosumi	and then José Ed. dos Santos from Angola says portugal wants to re-colonize africa	Jan 08 18:35
Sosumi	it isn't "us", it is the same powers that made us lose the colonies in the first place, so they could grab them	Jan 08 18:36
Sosumi	and supply weapons to all sides in order to artificially increase the prices of resources	Jan 08 18:36
Sosumi	namely diamonds	Jan 08 18:37
Sosumi	rare earths and so on could also have been profitable	Jan 08 18:37
Sosumi	instead of leaving china with that market monopolized	Jan 08 18:38
Sosumi	http://landdestroyer.blogspot.pt/2014/01/the-plundering-of-south-sudan.html	Jan 08 18:38
TechrightsBot-tr	landdestroyer.blogspot.pt \| Land Destroyer: The Plundering of South Sudan [ http://ur1.ca/gddfd ]	Jan 08 18:38
Sosumi	remember when Susie Rice and Hitlery Clinton touted the sudan division as a good example	Jan 08 18:39
Sosumi	well, that is the result	Jan 08 18:39
Sosumi	and it isn't certainly good for zee ppl, right?	Jan 08 18:40
MinceR	dunno	Jan 08 18:40
MinceR	africa seems pretty fucked up	Jan 08 18:40
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 18:45
DaemonFC	The state takes the kids away, gives them to the woman, may or may not let you see them, dictates the terms under which you are allowed to see them, and siphons off half your paycheck so that the woman can spend it any way she wants.	Jan 08 18:45
DaemonFC	I used to work with a guy that said that his ex-wife was letting the kids wear clothes with holes in them while she was spending his child support money on a brand new vehicle for herself. She also had an iPhone. Brand new clothes for herself...	Jan 08 18:45
MinceR	an inspiration for birth control	Jan 08 18:47
Sosumi	no, an inspiration to remove the state from the parent-child relationship	Jan 08 18:48
Sosumi	because if the kids weren't taken in the first place...	Jan 08 18:49
Sosumi	you can guess the rest	Jan 08 18:49
MinceR	indeed	Jan 08 18:49
MinceR	but even not taking the kids away can lead to a bad situation	Jan 08 18:49
Sosumi	like?	Jan 08 18:49
Sosumi	mistreatment?	Jan 08 18:49
MinceR	yes, if the father was a bad parent	Jan 08 18:50
Sosumi	that has always happened, but then the child would show up with bruises or emotionally disturbed	Jan 08 18:50
Sosumi	but on those extreme cases, a teacher could always intervene	Jan 08 18:51
MinceR	if i had to count on my average teacher for such things, i would have been in hell	Jan 08 18:51
MinceR	most of them were mentally ill people who should have never been allowed near children	Jan 08 18:52
Sosumi	a medic? in case the abusive parent took his child to a clinic	Jan 08 18:52
MinceR	then again, what can you expect in a country where teaching is one of the things nobody is willing to pay for	Jan 08 18:52
Sosumi	I guess I had a golden childhood then :)	Jan 08 18:52
MinceR	our teachers get paid nothing and there's no quality control in teaching	Jan 08 18:53
Sosumi	lots of fun and laughs during kindergarden to the secondary	Jan 08 18:53
MinceR	so the worst of the worst tend to take most of the slots	Jan 08 18:54
MinceR	and the children aren't any better either	Jan 08 18:54
MinceR	nasty little shits	Jan 08 18:54
Sosumi	after that everyone I knew moved, I moved and lost most of my friends and really didn't seem to make many at university either	Jan 08 18:55
Sosumi	:)	Jan 08 18:55
MinceR	at least at college and university i met mostly adult people	Jan 08 18:55
Sosumi	"mostly"	Jan 08 18:56
Sosumi	I still see ppl expelled from classes for bad behavior	Jan 08 18:56
MinceR	gn	Jan 08 19:03
Sosumi	going to bad too	Jan 08 19:04
Sosumi	"early to bed, early to rise, makes the body good and the senses sharp" - Sosumi	Jan 08 19:05
Sosumi	:)	Jan 08 19:05
Sosumi	GN	Jan 08 19:05
MinceR	Early to rise and early to bed makes a male healthy and wealthy and dead.	Jan 08 19:05
MinceR	-- James Thurber	Jan 08 19:06
Sosumi	mine's kewler	Jan 08 19:06
MinceR	mine's truer	Jan 08 19:06
Sosumi	:)	Jan 08 19:06
DaemonFC	Sosumi, Everything you do gives the state another opportunity to control you.	Jan 08 19:15
DaemonFC	Having kids is a big mistake because the state is never going to stop beating you over the head for that.	Jan 08 19:15
Snowleaksange	http://www.quora.com/Engineering-in-Silicon-Valley/Does-the-NSA-have-better-engineers-than-Facebook-or-Google	Jan 08 19:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.quora.com \| Engineering in Silicon Valley: Does the NSA have better engineers than Facebook or Google? - Quora [ http://ur1.ca/gddm6 ]	Jan 08 19:26
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DaemonFC	Roger says:	Jan 08 20:07
DaemonFC	Do you have a problem with the Satanic Temple?	Jan 08 20:07
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 20:07
DaemonFC	Actually, I think it's ridiculous for any religion to be allowed into the public sector. No good has ever come of it and none ever will.	Jan 08 20:07
DaemonFC	That being said, now that they've opened the floodgates, I think Oklahoma is going to get what it deserves. Enjoy your Satanic monument.	Jan 08 20:07
DaemonFC	I think it's funny.....as hell.	Jan 08 20:07
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 20:38
DaemonFC	The sad part is that the First Amendment has survived Neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan, and the Westboro Baptist Church, but it might not survive Chris Dodd and the MPAA.	Jan 08 20:38
DaemonFC	I don't want to give up my rights to silence the Nazis, and I don't want to give up my rights to enable the MPAA to make more money.	Jan 08 20:40
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 20:55
DaemonFC	If the choice is pay the hospital or pay the mortgage, pay the mortgage.	Jan 08 20:55
DaemonFC	If the choice is pay the hospital, or buy food, buy food.	Jan 08 20:55
DaemonFC	If the choice is to pay the hospital, or to replace a pair of worn out shoes, buy new shoes.	Jan 08 20:55
DaemonFC	If the choice is to pay the hospital, or fix your car, fix your car.	Jan 08 20:55
DaemonFC	Paying unsecured medical bills that have already done their damage to your credit report can cause more serious problems in other areas of your budget if you're on a tight income.	Jan 08 20:55
DaemonFC	And, frankly, it's not worth living on hardtack and gruel so that these rapacious pigs can give themselves million dollar bonuses at the end of the year.	Jan 08 20:55
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:17
DaemonFC	I have a sharpie marker that takes care of all those "in god we trust"s.	Jan 08 21:17
DaemonFC	You can do the same thing! It's harder with coins unless you have the time and patience to file them off. I don't.	Jan 08 21:17
DaemonFC	Why shouldn't the money say "in god we trust"? It's so delightfully perverse. The money is an instrument that the rich and the banksters use to subjugate and enslave workers. At the same time, they're saying "trust God!". Do you think that this amuses them? I've always taken "In God We Trust" to be a cruel irony that really means "Work sucks, but at least someday you'll die! Keep working!".	Jan 08 21:17
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:19
DaemonFC	You could also take a pen and write in "^BULL****!".	Jan 08 21:19
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 21:39
DaemonFC	Crossover gave up and bundled their own X.org Server because Mac OS users are dumber than a second coat of paint and it's impossible to expect any of them to be able to install one themselves.	Jan 08 21:39
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 08 22:15
DaemonFC	Mac OS "Classic" was a different operating system, and of course it crashed more. It was even worse than Windows 98.	Jan 08 22:15
DaemonFC	My high school had Macs, and they were garbage. When you were editing an office document, you had two choices, let autosave run and freeze up the Mac at random times, or leave autosave off and lose the entire document when the Mac crashed. It was very frustrating. I ended up being given a detention one day because the Mac crashed and I lost a document, and I shouted "**ing pile of **!" before I could stop myself.	Jan 08 22:15
DaemonFC	You probably would too if you lost an entire essay because of Apple's lousy software.	Jan 08 22:15
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msb__	DaemonFC: Hi! Still there?	Jan 09 00:26
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 09 00:27
msb__	DaemonFC: You probably know this by now, but with a crummy editor like you described, you can just do a save-as foo23.doc.	Jan 09 00:29
msb__	Then 5 minutes later, when you've written a big paragraph, save-as foo24.doc, etc.	Jan 09 00:29
msb__	Then you never lose anything.	Jan 09 00:29
msb__	Just delete all but the last few periodically.	Jan 09 00:30
msb__	I used to do that all the time in PC-DOS.	Jan 09 00:31
msb__	Anyhow, hope you're not inside the polar vortex!	Jan 09 00:32
DaemonFC	I am	Jan 09 00:32
msb__	Yiii!	Jan 09 00:33
msb__	Do you have enough furniture to burn?	Jan 09 00:33
msb__	There's always the old porno mags, but the minerals in the shiny ones make them hard to light.	Jan 09 00:35
DaemonFC	I'd prefer to save the porn and burn the meth addicts that reside in this backwards redneck town.	Jan 09 00:54
DaemonFC	It's getting cold again! Throw another meth addict on the fire!	Jan 09 00:54
DaemonFC	I don't know how well they burn, but we could try a few and find out. If they don't go up right away, we can get some kerosene.	Jan 09 00:55
msb__	Hope there aren't any witches living in your area...	Jan 09 01:06
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DaemonFC	msb__, The polar vortex was kind of fun.	Jan 09 01:13
DaemonFC	I got snowed in and nobody bothered me for three days.	Jan 09 01:14
msb__	Great! As long as you had heat and food.	Jan 09 01:14
msb__	...and Linux.	Jan 09 01:16
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Sosumi	DaemonFC, this isn't the US	Jan 09 01:22
Sosumi	in here there is no meddling in the parent-child relationship	Jan 09 01:22
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 01:22
DaemonFC	I know how to speed up the cow fart study (if there actually is one). You start feeding the cows Fiber One bars. In about 3-4 hours, you'll have all the data you need.	Jan 09 01:22
Sosumi	and it is not what the state wants or some gov worker,	Jan 09 01:24
Sosumi	it is what the parent thinks it is best	Jan 09 01:24
DaemonFC	Oh. When people get divorced here, the default is that the woman gets the kids, and the man gets a judge to tell them how much to pay the woman in alimony and child support.	Jan 09 01:26
DaemonFC	Some states don't have alimony at all. Other states have lifetime alimony.	Jan 09 01:26
DaemonFC	Florida has lifetime alimony until the woman gets remarried.	Jan 09 01:26
DaemonFC	So, a lot of women divorce and then live with their new boyfriend so the check from the ex-husband doesn't stop.	Jan 09 01:26
DaemonFC	Ever.	Jan 09 01:26
Sosumi	we don't have that	Jan 09 01:26
DaemonFC	More than a few men have figured out that it's cheaper to hire a hitman than to keep paying their ex wife.	Jan 09 01:27
Sosumi	the only way for the child to receive what we call "food pension", is for them to be minors or still be studying after reaching adulthood at the age of 18	Jan 09 01:28
Sosumi	that is usually paid by the parent without custody of the child	Jan 09 01:29
Sosumi	and yes, usually the women takes the kids	Jan 09 01:30
DaemonFC	Child support continues in some states until 21 if they're still in school.	Jan 09 01:30
Sosumi	but not always	Jan 09 01:30
DaemonFC	Either because they got held back a year in high school or because they're in college.	Jan 09 01:30
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 09 01:30
Sosumi	for example I'm still studying and I qualify for that pension	Jan 09 01:31
Sosumi	but that doesn't mean I get one, since my "father" works for himself	Jan 09 01:31
Sosumi	and he can just declare he hadn't a signle profit	Jan 09 01:31
Sosumi	so he can claim that he can't pay me the 100€ a month that was accorded under a judge and both our lawyers	Jan 09 01:32
Sosumi	my uncle's ex-wife, left her then 4 years old daughter with my uncle	Jan 09 01:33
Sosumi	and doesn't pay her a single cent, since she can do the same	Jan 09 01:34
Sosumi	there isn't really any enforcement of it as I can tell	Jan 09 01:37
Sosumi	and it is more based on the goodwill of the parent than anything else	Jan 09 01:37
Sosumi	http://rt.com/usa/cops-kill-mentally-ill-teen-283/	Jan 09 01:50
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gdfkn ]	Jan 09 01:50
Sosumi	Cops kill mentally ill teen after parents call police to help him	Jan 09 01:50
Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-08/how-us-employs-overseas-sweatshops-produce-government-uniforms	Jan 09 01:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zerohedge.com \| How The U.S. Employs Overseas Sweatshops To Produce Government Uniforms \| Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gdfkz ]	Jan 09 01:53
Sosumi	gogo team USA	Jan 09 01:57
MinceR	"I have worked at both the NSA and Microsoft. On average, the engineers at the NSA are not as good." -- it's a miracle that nsa gets anything done, then	Jan 09 02:00
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schestowitz	MinceR: not always https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1545860_10151943795286840_1572126254_n.jpg	Jan 09 04:40
schestowitz	generalisation	Jan 09 04:41
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 04:45
DaemonFC	Apple's are exceptionally difficult to upgrade, especially the Mac Mini. I saw a how to guide. Opening the case to upgrade the RAM or swap out the hard disk involves a paint scraper.	Jan 09 04:45
DaemonFC	Apple did that on purpose. They want to make you scared to open it up because there's a good chance that you'll scratch the **** out of your "precious". Now, if you take it to an Apple store, they'll be happy to have a "Genius" open it up and upgrade the RAM for you. Better hit the ATM on the way there. A $50 RAM upgrade is going to cost over $200 by the time they get done with you.	Jan 09 04:45
DaemonFC	Oddly enough, the "Genius" has a special tool that looks just like a paint scraper, only with a plastic edge. :)	Jan 09 04:45
MinceR	they're easy, actually: 1. throw that crap out 2. buy a real computer	Jan 09 04:53
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 05:00
DaemonFC	We had a terrible recession, an unemployment catastrophe, a debt crisis, and the worst poverty in a generation in 2008.	Jan 09 05:00
DaemonFC	What else happened around the same time?	Jan 09 05:00
DaemonFC	Hint:	Jan 09 05:00
DaemonFC	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/US_high-income_effective_tax_rates.png	Jan 09 05:00
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Effective_Corporate_Tax_Rate_1947-2011_v2.jpg	Jan 09 05:00
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| File:US Effective Corporate Tax Rate 1947-2011 v2.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gdhks ]	Jan 09 05:00
schestowitz	http://www.tuaw.com/2014/01/07/the-nsa-the-iphone-and-a-whole-lot-of-paranoia/	Jan 09 05:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuaw.com \| The NSA, the iPhone and a whole lot of paranoia \| TUAW - The Unofficial Apple Weblog [ http://ur1.ca/gdhkx ]	Jan 09 05:01
schestowitz	Apple idiots	Jan 09 05:01
Sosumi	mac minis are crippled by heat	Jan 09 05:13
Sosumi	why would you buy one is beyond me	Jan 09 05:13
Sosumi	steam box is the way to go on my opinion	Jan 09 05:13
Sosumi	as at least some of the designs I've seen just take of the shelf parts that can be easily swapped	Jan 09 05:14
Sosumi	but on the mac mini there's no glued components or stuff that can be scratched by swapping ram or the hdd	Jan 09 05:15
Sosumi	although swapping the HDDs on that thing is a total pain in the butt	Jan 09 05:15
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Sosumi	but then again my 1st point, for "serious" work, mac minis are crippled by heat	Jan 09 05:16
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DaemonFC	http://billmoyers.com/2014/01/08/marco-rubios-anti-poverty-agenda-would-create-two-americas/	Jan 09 05:21
DaemonFC	Marco Rubio and other Teathuglicans are concern trolling the topic of poverty. They're so concerned about helping the poor, they want to cut the minimum wage, so that entry level jobs can pay as little as they want.	Jan 09 05:21
DaemonFC	If everyone wants to work for 10 cents an hour, everyone can have a job.	Jan 09 05:21
DaemonFC	Why didn't anyone think of that before? :P	Jan 09 05:21
TechrightsBot-tr	billmoyers.com \| Marco Rubio's "Anti-Poverty" Agenda Would Create Two Americas \| The Poverty Line, What Matters Today \| BillMoyers.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdhvr ]	Jan 09 05:21
Sosumi	http://rense.com/1.imagesH/gorechurch.jpg	Jan 09 05:35
Sosumi	"Church of Climatology"	Jan 09 05:35
Sosumi	had to laugh, because it is true	Jan 09 05:35
iophk	http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/microsoft-and-your-tax-returns/article5515493.ece	Jan 09 05:37
TechrightsBot-tr	www.thehindubusinessline.com \| Microsoft and your tax returns \| Business Line [ http://ur1.ca/gdhys ]	Jan 09 05:37
DaemonFC	http://imageshack.us/a/img208/7804/buy5.png	Jan 09 05:42
DaemonFC	http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5997/0riq.png	Jan 09 05:42
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DaemonFC	That's interesting....	Jan 09 06:16
DaemonFC	I was playing around with my car insurance and noticed that my premium is the same with $50,000 per person $100,000 per accident Bodily Injury and $25,000 Property Damage as is is with $50,000/$100,000 with $50,000 of property damage.	Jan 09 06:17
DaemonFC	Why would the quote be the same with $25,000 more property damage coverage?	Jan 09 06:18
*DaemonFC decided to take it.		Jan 09 06:22
DaemonFC	Why not? It's free. I could hit someone's Jaguar.	Jan 09 06:22
Sosumi	yes, http://static.neatorama.com/images/2007-07/ashera-cat.jpg	Jan 09 06:26
MinceR	:3	Jan 09 06:34
DaemonFC	https://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/4258692052.html	Jan 09 06:37
TechrightsBot-tr	fortwayne.craigslist.org \| 15.4"Mac G4 PowerBook [ http://ur1.ca/gdihr ]	Jan 09 06:37
MinceR	WeaknessBook	Jan 09 06:38
DaemonFC	$170 is a bit steep.	Jan 09 06:39
DaemonFC	You can get a refurbished Chromebook with the dual Exynos 1.7 Ghz processor and 2 GB of RAM for about that much.	Jan 09 06:40
MinceR	indeed	Jan 09 06:41
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Sosumi	get a powerbook 15	Jan 09 07:18
Sosumi	and you'll be risking a "bulging" battery	Jan 09 07:18
Sosumi	the only models that didn't suffer from that were 17 and 12 inches models	Jan 09 07:19
MinceR	bulging with Power!	Jan 09 07:19
Sosumi	and that is a very onld model	Jan 09 07:19
MinceR	all powerbooks are	Jan 09 07:19
Sosumi	not, I mean that model is is from 2000	Jan 09 07:20
Sosumi	plus the advertisement is wrong	Jan 09 07:20
Sosumi	snow leopard is 10.6	Jan 09 07:20
Sosumi	that model comes with tiger	Jan 09 07:20
Sosumi	which is 10.4	Jan 09 07:20
Sosumi	for the same you can get the early or late 2004 powerbook 17	Jan 09 07:22
Sosumi	with a single core g4 at 1.5 or 1.66	Jan 09 07:22
Sosumi	and no risks for exploding/bulging batts	Jan 09 07:23
Sosumi	but why bother, get the metallic lemote instead	Jan 09 07:23
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Sosumi	actually, I saw a couple of weeks ago an almost new core 2 quad toshiba laptop with dual gtx 9800m	Jan 09 07:29
Sosumi	on a computer dump place	Jan 09 07:30
Sosumi	and it wasn't in bad shape or anything	Jan 09 07:30
Sosumi	just some smudges on the screen	Jan 09 07:30
Sosumi	dunno if it still worked, but at least you'd get a "functional computer"	Jan 09 07:31
Sosumi	http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/09-01-2014/126573-european_union_portugal-0/	Jan 09 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr	english.pravda.ru \| European Union drives Portugal into Third World - English pravda.ru [ http://ur1.ca/gdiwh ]	Jan 09 07:41
Sosumi	"Take an evening walk in the center of Lisbon and see for yourself. And stop living with eyes wide shut."	Jan 09 07:41
Sosumi	you better not, unless you want to come with your pockets empty	Jan 09 07:41
Sosumi	illumination of some streets at night is also kind of an afterthought and sometimes, when the municipal workers are on strike,	Jan 09 07:43
Sosumi	there are piles of trash and funny smells everywhere	Jan 09 07:43
MinceR	http://imgur.com/gallery/Cjn6NfS "Ah, Mr. Bond," he said, stroking his hairless human slowly, "I've been expecting you."	Jan 09 07:46
TechrightsBot-tr	imgur.com \| My cat has one foggy eye. Add a bow tie and he instantly becomes a James Bond villain. - Imgur	Jan 09 07:46
Sosumi	lol	Jan 09 08:09
Sosumi	is that oddcat?	Jan 09 08:09
Sosumi	Oddjob's twin separated at birth	Jan 09 08:10
MinceR	dunno	Jan 09 08:11
Sosumi	Blofeld's them	Jan 09 08:12
MinceR	no, Oddjob is human	Jan 09 08:12
Sosumi	http://carlmaxim.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/blofeld1.jpg	Jan 09 08:12
Sosumi	so is Blofeld	Jan 09 08:13
MinceR	but the cat isn't	Jan 09 08:13
MinceR	so they can't be twins	Jan 09 08:13
Sosumi	who cares, you can do anything with genetics nowadays	Jan 09 08:14
MinceR	Blofeld could be the hairless human	Jan 09 08:14
Sosumi	talking of that, I've had a brilliance moment last month	Jan 09 08:15
Sosumi	by proposing the equivalent of vhdl for gene expression and a tissue design	Jan 09 08:17
Sosumi	and the answer was, "well, why don't you work on it?"	Jan 09 08:18
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 08:18
Sosumi	which means green light	Jan 09 08:18
Sosumi	and I've been pillaging the pirate bay for everything biotech, gene therapy and bioinformathics since then	Jan 09 08:20
Sosumi	I guess I'll have a quite busy summer vacation	Jan 09 08:21
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 08:26
DaemonFC	What about Mr. Bigglesworth and Random Task?	Jan 09 08:38
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 08:49
DaemonFC	If I get married, I want to get married there. I can't think of a better way to make right-wing fundamentalist Christians scream than to have a gay wedding in front of a statue of Satan in front of the state capital building in Oklahoma.	Jan 09 08:49
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 08:50
Sosumi	lol	Jan 09 09:12
Sosumi	http://www.trbimg.com/img-52ccd21e/turbine/la-me-ra-why-christians-should-embrace-the-sat-001/600	Jan 09 09:14
Sosumi	is that the statue's model?	Jan 09 09:14
Sosumi	if that so, that is just a statue of baphomet, not satan,	Jan 09 09:15
Sosumi	implying the as above so bellow,	Jan 09 09:15
Sosumi	the marriage between the male and female aspects	Jan 09 09:16
MinceR	is there a defined look for satan?	Jan 09 09:19
Sosumi	the moon (female) reflecting the sun (male) (see washington monument, obelisk = penis, water = pre-birth waters)	Jan 09 09:20
Sosumi	nop	Jan 09 09:20
Sosumi	but lucifer used to be represented as a candlelight	Jan 09 09:21
Sosumi	because after being expelled from heaven aka thunder would allow men to see in the dark	Jan 09 09:22
MinceR	i doubt that a candlelight would sufficiently enrage the bible-humpers	Jan 09 09:22
Sosumi	and as I've always said, those religions are nothing more than an ignorant description of natural events	Jan 09 09:22
DaemonFC	It's looking as if MATE is going to thrive after all.	Jan 09 09:23
Sosumi	well, a big candle light	Jan 09 09:23
Sosumi	lite with bibles	Jan 09 09:23
DaemonFC	I was skeptical at first.	Jan 09 09:23
MinceR	now we're getting somewhere	Jan 09 09:23
MinceR	still, it would cause way too much pollution	Jan 09 09:23
MinceR	unless it was an illusory flame of some sort	Jan 09 09:23
DaemonFC	There was also a project to fork GNOME 1. It immediately stalled out. I don't remember what they called it.	Jan 09 09:23
Sosumi	lol, trees breath CO2	Jan 09 09:23
Sosumi	no worries, just plant more	Jan 09 09:23
DaemonFC	There was no real reason for it though. GNOME 2 wasn't so bad.	Jan 09 09:23
MinceR	but in order to be candlelight, it would need to appear to have a pool of molten wax under the top of the bible pile	Jan 09 09:24
MinceR	so that the pages can wick the wax and fuel the flame with it	Jan 09 09:24
MinceR	gnome 2 was worse than gnome 1, though	Jan 09 09:24
MinceR	for example, the gnome 1 panel could swallow any x client as an applet	Jan 09 09:25
Sosumi	something like that, but I don't specifics are too important on this case	Jan 09 09:25
Sosumi	unless you actually want to build one	Jan 09 09:26
Sosumi	which is kind of pointless and you'd be encroaching into other ppl's freedoms	Jan 09 09:26
Sosumi	and who say bibles	Jan 09 09:26
Sosumi	well I not burn the zohar	Jan 09 09:27
Sosumi	or the quram	Jan 09 09:27
Sosumi	better let each fool do his own thing	Jan 09 09:27
Sosumi	if they want to blindly follow what was put in front of them by their parents, because their parents also did it to them	Jan 09 09:28
Sosumi	aka indoctrination starts at home	Jan 09 09:28
MinceR	unless chuck norris gets his way -- in which case it can start at school.	Jan 09 09:30
Sosumi	although I actually think that the rejection of a perfect being or creator should not be disregarded	Jan 09 09:31
Sosumi	following thought systems like those of religion or cults is dumb	Jan 09 09:31
Sosumi	I need to re-frase that,	Jan 09 09:31
Sosumi	I think that the rejection of a creator or perfect being should not be disregarded, because man actually needs something to serve example	Jan 09 09:32
Sosumi	and not let himself fall into moral relativity	Jan 09 09:33
Sosumi	following religious systems or cults is just plain dumb and ignorant	Jan 09 09:33
Sosumi	pff and I actually ended up writing exactly the same	Jan 09 09:34
*Sosumi needs to take a cold shower		Jan 09 09:34
Sosumi	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2014/01/teen-reported-security-hole/	Jan 09 09:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.wired.com \| Teen Reported to Police After Finding Security Hole in Website \| Threat Level \| Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdju1 ]	Jan 09 09:46
Sosumi	no good deed should ever go unpunished	Jan 09 09:47
Sosumi	spot the differences	Jan 09 09:51
Sosumi	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdiiMlxCIAAiAUd.jpg	Jan 09 09:51
DaemonFC	I decided to spend a few days pigging out.	Jan 09 09:51
DaemonFC	I need to gain a few pounds.	Jan 09 09:52
MinceR	Sosumi: so what if there's no creator or perfect being?	Jan 09 09:52
Sosumi	http://cstm.mymiddleearth.com/files/2011/01/CarnDumPoop.png	Jan 09 09:52
MinceR	does it preclude you from behaving ethically?	Jan 09 09:52
MinceR	strange, on the first of those two pics, one turd is stacked on another	Jan 09 09:53
Sosumi	turd²	Jan 09 09:53
Sosumi	that was the difference	Jan 09 09:53
Sosumi	I know better, but what I said was for the general folks out there	Jan 09 09:54
MinceR	it's a dangerous game to stack an entire system of values on shaky propositions	Jan 09 09:54
MinceR	and it is unnecessary	Jan 09 09:54
Sosumi	do you have better?	Jan 09 09:55
MinceR	i do	Jan 09 09:55
Sosumi	like?	Jan 09 09:55
MinceR	basing ethical reasoning on the actual consequences of actions	Jan 09 09:55
MinceR	and reciprocity	Jan 09 09:55
Sosumi	well that is good	Jan 09 09:56
Sosumi	but what about the folks who fall into moral relativity	Jan 09 09:56
Sosumi	like I'm going to steal because all I know is to steal	Jan 09 09:56
Sosumi	or like I'm fat because my genetics say I must be fat, while continuing to eat trash	Jan 09 09:57
MinceR	threaten thieves with actual punishment?	Jan 09 09:57
MinceR	point out that they won't like if others steal from them?	Jan 09 09:57
MinceR	as for allowing oneself to become fat, that's hardly a question of ethics	Jan 09 09:57
Sosumi	that only works on world with lvls reason	Jan 09 09:58
Sosumi	which isn't the case of this one	Jan 09 09:58
MinceR	it is also possible to use logic to point out the consequences of one person stealing and also the consequences of stealing being generally accepted and practiced	Jan 09 09:58
MinceR	how would an imaginary friend help better?	Jan 09 09:58
Sosumi	it isn't an imaginary friend, just and archtype of perfection	Jan 09 09:59
Sosumi	just like lucifer is an archtype for intellect	Jan 09 09:59
MinceR	way too specific for that	Jan 09 10:00
MinceR	what is yahweh an archetype for?	Jan 09 10:00
MinceR	vengeful, unjust mass murderers?	Jan 09 10:00
Sosumi	the lifegiver aka the sun	Jan 09 10:00
MinceR	that hardly makes any sense	Jan 09 10:01
MinceR	also, they disposed with their sun goddess (Shapash/Shapshu)	Jan 09 10:01
iophk	ruining Android devices with Vista8	Jan 09 10:01
iophk	http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245253/Intel_trumpets_Android_Windows_as_more_choice_	Jan 09 10:01
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerworld.com \| Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1b ]	Jan 09 10:01
MinceR	they only kept yahweh, the war god	Jan 09 10:01
iophk	http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2322002/pirate-bay-founder-gottfrid-svartholm-warg-gets-an-extended-prison-stay	Jan 09 10:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theinquirer.net \| Pirate Bay founder Gottfrid Svartholm Warg gets an extended prison stay- The Inquirer [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1g ]	Jan 09 10:02
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/50000-call-to-free-pirate-bay-founder-as-court-extends-custody-140108/	Jan 09 10:02
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| 50,000 Call to Free Pirate Bay Founder as Court Extends Custody \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1k ]	Jan 09 10:02
Sosumi	well, they also disposed the women of their place in the priesthoods and after that it started being males in gowns	Jan 09 10:03
Sosumi	it is just how it is	Jan 09 10:03
Sosumi	http://rt.com/news/fukushima-decontamination-system-stops-352/	Jan 09 10:05
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gdk21 ]	Jan 09 10:05
MinceR	:)	Jan 09 10:06
Sosumi	it never worked, dumping radioactive debris in tokyo bay, incinerating other, constant leaks and covert container dumpings during storms	Jan 09 10:06
Sosumi	Fukushima failure: Decontamination system stops functioning	Jan 09 10:06
Sosumi	grab your female japanese wife before she grows tentacles and starts glowing	Jan 09 10:07
MinceR	those would certainly broaden the options	Jan 09 10:08
Sosumi	lol	Jan 09 10:08
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iophk	http://www.hngn.com/articles/21547/20140109/more-security-experts-cancel-speech-for-rsa-conference.htm	Jan 09 12:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.hngn.com \| More Security Experts Cancel Speech for RSA Conference : News : Headlines & Global News [ http://ur1.ca/gdl06 ]	Jan 09 12:17
iophk	http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/security/319544-what-it-s-like-when-the-fbi-asks-you-to-backdoor-your-software	Jan 09 12:37
TechrightsBot-tr	securitywatch.pcmag.com \| What It's Like When The FBI Asks You To Backdoor Your Software [ http://ur1.ca/gdl3x ]	Jan 09 12:37
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MinceR	https://twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/419688527215853568	Jan 09 12:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@TheTweetOfGod: For the record, I AM a conservative. My son, on the other hand, is a communist.	Jan 09 12:57
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Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-09/hedge-fund-slams-portuguese-bonds-64-page-slideshow	Jan 09 13:18
TechrightsBot-tr	www.zerohedge.com \| Hedge Fund Slams Portuguese Bonds With 64 Page Slideshow \| Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gdlcp ]	Jan 09 13:18
Sosumi	bury the crippling debt and start a new	Jan 09 13:18
Sosumi	"2	Jan 09 13:20
Sosumi	nd	Jan 09 13:20
Sosumi	Best EU Sovereign Performer in 2012 and 2013, €72B of official sector money for Portuguese bondholders, Mostly Benefits Banks, and Hedge Funds in the UK, US…"	Jan 09 13:20
Sosumi	by stealing from the ppl	Jan 09 13:20
Sosumi	and strangling small businesses	Jan 09 13:20
Sosumi	and https://avaazdo.s3.amazonaws.com/7400a6b8d9a22ec5afadce3a27149082.jpg	Jan 09 13:23
MinceR	https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Whh-PZ-KRTU/Us51VjJnyVI/AAAAAAAAIwc/P_B0MPgpZGA/w550-h495-no/2014+-+1	Jan 09 13:29
MinceR	(old) http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/opinion/sunday/a-quantum-theory-of-mitt-romney.html?_r=1&	Jan 09 14:08
TechrightsBot-tr	myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gdllb ]	Jan 09 14:08
MinceR	also, coralcdn seems to be dead	Jan 09 14:09
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MinceR	it came back from the dead	Jan 09 14:13
MinceR	so if it comes up with the paywall, then http://www-nc.nytimes.com.nyud.net/2012/04/01/opinion/sunday/a-quantum-theory-of-mitt-romney.html?=_r=6&	Jan 09 14:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www-nc.nytimes.com.nyud.net \| A Quantum Theory of Mitt Romney - NYTimes.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdlmr ]	Jan 09 14:13
icecrawler	hey	Jan 09 14:14
MinceR	hay	Jan 09 14:16
icecrawler	fewt - there u are mofo, i cant get fuduntu updates	Jan 09 14:30
fewt	icecrawler	Jan 09 14:31
fewt	that's probably true, since it stopped existing last april.	Jan 09 14:31
fewt	also, yes, I am a mofo	Jan 09 14:32
fewt	for well over 15 years. hah	Jan 09 14:32
fewt	MinceR: haaaay	Jan 09 14:32
MinceR	fewt: http://latenightjimmy.tumblr.com/post/49569873438/in-honor-of-the-kentucky-derby-jimmy-did-a	Jan 09 14:33
TechrightsBot-tr	latenightjimmy.tumblr.com \| Late Night with Jimmy Fallon • In honor of the Kentucky Derby, Jimmy did a... [ http://ur1.ca/gdlql ]	Jan 09 14:33
fewt	MinceR, <3	Jan 09 14:33
schestowitz	v	Jan 09 14:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500048	Jan 09 14:35
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245253/Intel_trumpets_Android_Windows_as_more_choice_ better than Windows-only (Wintel)	Jan 09 14:35
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.computerworld.com \| Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1b ]	Jan 09 14:35
schestowitz	"If it comes with Restricted Boot, it's not better than Windows only. Sooner or later, it will be a brick."	Jan 09 14:35
schestowitz	I've always said (since 2006) that Intel should be boycotted for more reasons than that	Jan 09 14:36
fewt	An Intel boycott wouldn't be successful. It would only harm those trying to organize the boycott.	Jan 09 14:37
fewt	That whole cutting off your own nose thing. Intel is in so many aspects of computing it would take millions to make a dent.	Jan 09 14:38
MinceR	one can support their competitors though	Jan 09 14:39
fewt	Oh absolutely.	Jan 09 14:39
MinceR	that does more than just deprive intel of revenue	Jan 09 14:39
fewt	Only if you can convince enough people to join you.	Jan 09 14:39
MinceR	indeed.	Jan 09 14:40
fewt	If you were able to attract the entire FOSS community, yeah you'd make it work.	Jan 09 14:40
fewt	The large majority of the FOSS communtity (IMHO) doesn't care enough though.	Jan 09 14:40
fewt	they just want free stuff.	Jan 09 14:40
MinceR	it doesn't have to be the FOSS community	Jan 09 14:40
fewt	sure sure	Jan 09 14:41
fewt	I agree	Jan 09 14:41
MinceR	non-FOSS people can participate too	Jan 09 14:41
fewt	if you can find a way to attract them to the cause, yes absolutely	Jan 09 14:41
fewt	but how	Jan 09 14:41
fewt	most users don't care about anything but the computer turning on when they push the go button.	Jan 09 14:41
fewt	Computers are pretty much just smart appliances.	Jan 09 14:41
MinceR	it seems the industry already found some ways :>	Jan 09 14:41
MinceR	mobile (and otherwise) computing via ARM, for example	Jan 09 14:41
fewt	to them anyway.	Jan 09 14:41
fewt	yeah, true.	Jan 09 14:42
fewt	but the majority of ARM devices have locked bootloaders. At least the big telco devices do.	Jan 09 14:42
fewt	so you just subtract one bad behavior for another	Jan 09 14:42
MinceR	indeed	Jan 09 14:43
fewt	substitute	Jan 09 14:43
MinceR	Raspberry Pi-s and Pandoras don't, though.	Jan 09 14:43
fewt	it's such a complex issue	Jan 09 14:43
fewt	true that	Jan 09 14:43
MinceR	same with Nexus devices	Jan 09 14:43
fewt	<3 nexus devices personally	Jan 09 14:43
MinceR	and i think that most unlocked devices are unlocked or unlockable nowadays	Jan 09 14:43
schestowitz	fewt: fallacy	Jan 09 14:43
schestowitz	just because an entity it very big does not make it defensible or unbeatable	Jan 09 14:44
schestowitz	you just need to bear it more before it's knocked over	Jan 09 14:44
fewt	no no, I didn't mean to imply that it was unbeatable.	Jan 09 14:44
fewt	just that it's a very complex issue	Jan 09 14:44
schestowitz	Apple, Microsoft - both are huge - but any blow to them does make them smaller	Jan 09 14:44
schestowitz	Defeatism assumes you'll be crushed to death by those whom you criticise	Jan 09 14:44
fewt	when you do start to crack them, they will run to the government and ask for a handout	Jan 09 14:45
fewt	and you start over	Jan 09 14:45
fewt	like the banks and auto industries did	Jan 09 14:45
schestowitz	many in China they'd be connected to the Mafia well enough to kill you, like Coca Cola does in Colombia and elsewhere	Jan 09 14:45
MinceR	meanwhile, their competitors will rise	Jan 09 14:45
fewt	I don't mean to imply that no-one should try	Jan 09 14:45
schestowitz	fewt: bailouts are a separate issue	Jan 09 14:45
fewt	only that it's a huge challenge.	Jan 09 14:45
MinceR	and at the least you can hope for a state where intel, m$ and crApple are no longer forced on you	Jan 09 14:45
fewt	yes	Jan 09 14:45
MinceR	and they no longer have total control	Jan 09 14:46
schestowitz	BTW, Seagate and Sainsbury's (official accounts) contacted me today in, public	Jan 09 14:46
schestowitz	Sainsbury's has a quyarter of a million follows	Jan 09 14:46
schestowitz	followers	Jan 09 14:46
fewt	MinceR, I'm very close to ridding myself of my last Intel (x86_64) based device.	Jan 09 14:46
schestowitz	and it worried about something I wrote about their privacy policy	Jan 09 14:46
fewt	my next devices will be ARM only running Android.	Jan 09 14:46
MinceR	i'm not but i'm planning to switch my main computer to ARM	Jan 09 14:46
schestowitz	Seagate tio responded, it means that their policy it to "engage" with such crtitics, it's a business threat, a whispter campaugn	Jan 09 14:47
fewt	MinceR I'm pondering the HP Slate Pro	Jan 09 14:47
schestowitz	*whisper campaign	Jan 09 14:47
MinceR	as my current convertible tablet pc is too damn heavy and lasts too little on battery	Jan 09 14:47
MinceR	i'm pondering the Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF701T	Jan 09 14:47
fewt	or, just using my Nexus 7 full time	Jan 09 14:47
fewt	I practically do now..	Jan 09 14:47
MinceR	failing that, the Nexus 7 (2013) 32 GB WiFi	Jan 09 14:47
schestowitz	BTW, UEFI is f*cked in the minds of many Lin ux users	Jan 09 14:47
schestowitz	I wrote articles that reached hunfreds of thousands	Jan 09 14:47
MinceR	i could use a keyboard with those while powering (and charging) them from mains	Jan 09 14:47
schestowitz	And heads of UEFI (Intel staff) arrange a conference call with me, allowed me to record.	Jan 09 14:47
fewt	nice	Jan 09 14:48
schestowitz	This too means they're hurting	Jan 09 14:48
fewt	or they are willing to listen and adapt	Jan 09 14:48
fewt	listening != hurting	Jan 09 14:48
schestowitz	They'd have other things to do if they saw critics as powerless	Jan 09 14:48
schestowitz	You can change the way some issuesa are publicly discused, such as SeaWorld	Jan 09 14:48
MinceR	well, if they won't listen then the PC is dead	Jan 09 14:48
schestowitz	After the article got removed and the writer left Forbes it only made them look much worse	Jan 09 14:48
fewt	sure sure	Jan 09 14:49
schestowitz	listening is PR talk	Jan 09 14:49
fewt	well	Jan 09 14:49
schestowitz	like the word jono et al. use	Jan 09 14:49
fewt	listening could be pr talk	Jan 09 14:49
schestowitz	"we listen to the community"	Jan 09 14:49
fewt	lol @ jono	Jan 09 14:49
MinceR	jono doesn't even do much listening	Jan 09 14:49
schestowitz	It's just marketing talk	Jan 09 14:49
fewt	we listen but we don't act	Jan 09 14:49
MinceR	he's not very good at it, is he?	Jan 09 14:49
schestowitz	Conversation on payroll takes resources	Jan 09 14:49
fewt	goes in one ear and out the other!	Jan 09 14:49
schestowitz	What they actually tru to achieve ir reframing of public debate	Jan 09 14:50
schestowitz	they can listen to public debate, read the critics	Jan 09 14:50
schestowitz	the criticism are well understood by them	Jan 09 14:50
fewt	Have you joined the UEFI standards body?	Jan 09 14:50
fewt	a seat there would get you closer to being heard whenever you want	Jan 09 14:50
schestowitz	So it's about talking back, trying to influence the critics, not about listening	Jan 09 14:50
fewt	Canonical and RedHat sit on that board.	Jan 09 14:50
fewt	just an idea.	Jan 09 14:50
schestowitz	it's a corproate thing	Jan 09 14:51
schestowitz	They welcome companies that use UEFI or sel hardware	Jan 09 14:51
schestowitz	Visit their site	Jan 09 14:51
schestowitz	It's no place for public paarticicpants	Jan 09 14:51
schestowitz	stakeholders and shareholder of Intel and its partners	Jan 09 14:52
MinceR	maybe Canonical and Red Hat are making the same mistake BeOS, Inc. did	Jan 09 14:52
fewt	Techrights is a non-profit right?	Jan 09 14:52
schestowitz	It pregtends to have .org status	Jan 09 14:52
fewt	oh	Jan 09 14:52
schestowitz	It's really a front for Intel and ilk, inc. Apple and MSFT	Jan 09 14:52
schestowitz	Mostly US companies	Jan 09 14:52
schestowitz	Watch their site, check all the 9 or so key members	Jan 09 14:52
fewt	I'm not going to say it's a mistake, or not a mistake. I don't really know. The concept is a really good one.	Jan 09 14:52
schestowitz	And check who management works for	Jan 09 14:53
MinceR	what concept?	Jan 09 14:53
fewt	but the implementation, ehhh it isn't very good.	Jan 09 14:53
schestowitz	(only/amost all Intel)	Jan 09 14:53
schestowitz	I researched their background before our conference call	Jan 09 14:53
MinceR	an extremely bloated boot firmware built on broken m$ "technology" that partly resides on the hard drive?	Jan 09 14:53
schestowitz	[19:55] <fewt> Techrights is a non-profit right?	Jan 09 14:53
schestowitz	Deeo in losses	Jan 09 14:53
schestowitz	If it was a business	Jan 09 14:53
MinceR	and also includes lock-in	Jan 09 14:53
schestowitz	Which it's not	Jan 09 14:53
MinceR	disguised as "security" (as usual)	Jan 09 14:53
fewt	MinceR, the ability to enforce signed bootstrap is good. The implementation, not so much.	Jan 09 14:54
schestowitz	The only person who had paid 6 pounds monthly for a couple of months cancelled this morning	Jan 09 14:54
fewt	schestowitz, oic, fair enough.	Jan 09 14:54
schestowitz	so there's no donations	Jan 09 14:54
fewt	oh wow	Jan 09 14:54
fewt	sorry to hear that	Jan 09 14:54
MinceR	fewt: the ability is only valid and trustworthy if it doesn't include any keys by default	Jan 09 14:54
MinceR	same as the TPM, including a key shows their true intentions.	Jan 09 14:54
fewt	MinceR: I agree with that completely	Jan 09 14:54
schestowitz	esp. the 'sescure' boot stuff	Jan 09 14:54
fewt	schestowitz, keeping the lights on is the biggest challenge an FOSS project faces in my experience.	Jan 09 14:55
schestowitz	I basically told them, dtop this and then UEFI is mostly OK	Jan 09 14:55
fewt	that's one of the reasons I was happy to see RedHat bring the CentOS devs on board.	Jan 09 14:55
schestowitz	And compared it to DRM, their president agreed with me on it	Jan 09 14:55
schestowitz	They'll get lots of negative press until or unless they stop this remote-controlling thing	Jan 09 14:55
schestowitz	!google nsa says boot brick	Jan 09 14:55
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - If You Use Microsoft Windows, the NSA Can Brick Your Computer ... \| http://techrights.org/2013/06/24/nsa-and-uefi/	Jan 09 14:55
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - NSA Confirms Remote Computer Bricking by BIOS (or UEFI) as a ... \| http://techrights.org/2013/12/16/boot-process-threat/	Jan 09 14:55
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Infosecurity - China's Plot to Brick the US Economy \| http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/36149/chinas-plot-to-brick-the-us-economy/	Jan 09 14:55
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - '60 Minutes' BIOS Plot May Be NSA Invention – Tom's Guide \| http://www.tomsguide.com/us/60-minutes-bios-plot-nsa,news-17988.html	Jan 09 14:55
fewt	icecrawler, are you still running Fuduntu by the way? Also, I don't believe we've met before (though I could be wrong about that, I've met a lot of people in irc over the years)	Jan 09 14:56
schestowitz	Now they have a US consortium well set to do this	Jan 09 14:56
schestowitz	brick any PC in the world using a TCO/IP packet	Jan 09 14:56
schestowitz	*TCP	Jan 09 14:56
schestowitz	fewt: MS tried to schmooze centos	Jan 09 14:57
schestowitz	for years	Jan 09 14:57
schestowitz	inclouding Sandy gupta from SCO	Jan 09 14:57
schestowitz	Who now works for MSFT	Jan 09 14:57
fewt	meh	Jan 09 14:57
schestowitz	So for CentOS is was escaping to the giant that's not MSFT	Jan 09 14:57
fewt	didn't seem to work. :)	Jan 09 14:57
schestowitz	Although Red Hat itself has bad interests to do with IBM as key partner, now more so with MSFT too (virt-wise)	Jan 09 14:57
fewt	That's the nature of business.	Jan 09 14:58
fewt	RedHat is always going to have to have some sort of a relationship with companies who have bad histories.	Jan 09 14:59
fewt	Well, I'm out for a bit. Later!	Jan 09 15:01
schestowitz	well, it does not stretch as far as giving its patents to MSFT and PAYING MS for other people's hard work	Jan 09 15:01
MinceR	o/	Jan 09 15:01
schestowitz	:-) laters	Jan 09 15:03
iophk	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/09/anonymous-search-tool-duckduckgo-1bn-queries-2013-google	Jan 09 15:16
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| Anonymous search tool DuckDuckGo answered 1bn queries in 2013 \| Technology \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdlze ]	Jan 09 15:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/421377129306021888	Jan 09 15:30
TechrightsBot-tr	@glynmoody: @schestowitz in what sense?	Jan 09 15:30
schestowitz	Shifting debate from death of one man into statistics	Jan 09 15:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/421377176273833984	Jan 09 15:32
TechrightsBot-tr	@glynmoody: @schestowitz you mean by moving away from the present case?	Jan 09 15:32
schestowitz	exactly, debate-shifting. Cleverly done to improve the image of British police. Home Office cited.	Jan 09 15:32
Sosumi	when evil fights evil (IBM), good as a chance to actually put up some fight	Jan 09 15:33
schestowitz	and comparing UK #s to US is like comparing #obama to #bush - will they do same re penal system (US had majority pop' there)?	Jan 09 15:34
Sosumi	red hat and ibm have both done good stuff for linux	Jan 09 15:34
Sosumi	although IBM actually did the usual crap	Jan 09 15:34
Sosumi	and as of late even partnered with M$ for some patent deal amendments	Jan 09 15:35
Sosumi	and secure boot should either be trashed or the user be allowed to sign his own keys	Jan 09 15:36
Sosumi	and as for crapple, they totally trashed secure boot	Jan 09 15:36
schestowitz	IIRC (no URL offhand), deaths in police custody high in UK; also, can't compare police # to "world's policeman" (US)	Jan 09 15:36
MinceR	it would be best to trash the whole of uefi in favor of something that was actually engineered	Jan 09 15:37
Sosumi	or that	Jan 09 15:37
MinceR	(not "what m$ crap could we glue on top of this trash heap today?")	Jan 09 15:37
Sosumi	and the firmware source code being accessible wouldn't be bad either	Jan 09 15:38
Sosumi	instead of just those .cap files	Jan 09 15:38
jono	schestowitz I listen to the community	Jan 09 15:39
jono	but I appreciate that you will never see that	Jan 09 15:39
MinceR	also no kitchen sinks	Jan 09 15:40
Sosumi	yeah, you could always audit the code	Jan 09 15:41
Sosumi	which in this day and age should be there as an option	Jan 09 15:41
Sosumi	even introducing slight variations to code would be good	Jan 09 15:41
Sosumi	instead of having total homogeneity	Jan 09 15:42
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3499858	Jan 09 15:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For crackers, question may no longer be "ARE there any flaws in this piece of proprietary s/w?" Question now: "WHERE are the backdoors?"	Jan 09 15:48
schestowitz	"The point is that they always knew they could find a hole in commercial trash. Now, despite continued denials and misdirection, we have proof of why."	Jan 09 15:48
schestowitz	jono: anyone can tune in, the debate is public	Jan 09 15:49
schestowitz	it's good that people like you are there to act as moral compass for peripheral interests, such as community	Jan 09 15:49
jono	schestowitz community is not a peripheral interest	Jan 09 15:50
jono	it is a core part of what we do	Jan 09 15:50
MinceR	:D	Jan 09 15:50
fewt	I don't think I can agree with that at all.	Jan 09 15:59
fewt	but that's just my opinion.	Jan 09 15:59
fewt	:D	Jan 09 15:59
gde33	if a string of letters is a kind of property, howmany letters do I need? If someone would own BP they couldn't expect me not to reproduce the full text of their property in the chat.	Jan 09 16:24
gde33	howmany words do we need?	Jan 09 16:24
gde33	say I write a text and produce a data uri	Jan 09 16:24
gde33	am I the only one who can post that link?	Jan 09 16:25
gde33	o god I find text of many crazy court cases explaining all this in "detail"	Jan 09 16:27
gde33	".....There's No Business Like No Business" (sung to the tune of "There's No Business Like Show Business"), Judge Metzner decided that the issue of copyright infringement was closer, requiring a trial because in each case the parodies relied on the same verbal hooks ("always" and "business") as the originals.	Jan 09 16:28
MinceR	it's madness	Jan 09 16:37
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Sosumi	jono, "a house divided wont stand tall"	Jan 09 16:46
jono	Sosumi, agreed	Jan 09 16:47
Sosumi	so yes keeping at least a sense of community is important	Jan 09 16:47
MinceR	i just hope that applications that target ubuntu/unity will remain usable on other distros and DEs	Jan 09 16:48
schestowitz	http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2014/01/great-news-from-buylinuxcdscouk.html	Jan 09 17:04
TechrightsBot-tr	linuxblog.darkduck.com \| Great News from BuyLinuxCDs.co.uk - Linux notes from DarkDuck [ http://ur1.ca/gdmh1 ]	Jan 09 17:04
schestowitz	MinceR: I use Canonical PPAs in Kubuntu	Jan 09 17:05
schestowitz	and that works well	Jan 09 17:05
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500665	Jan 09 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Reform of EU copyright rules: your chance to give your views! http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/kroes/en/content/reform-eu-copyright-rules-your-chance-give-your-views #kroes says they're listening to _GASP_ people	Jan 09 17:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> ec.europa.eu \| Reform of EU copyright rules: your chance to give your views! - European Commission [ http://ur1.ca/gdiug ]	Jan 09 17:06
schestowitz	"The same way they listened to Ireland?"	Jan 09 17:06
schestowitz	Can always try, it's better to try than to patrionise the opening	Jan 09 17:06
MinceR	schestowitz: i mean API and windowing system compatibility	Jan 09 17:07
schestowitz	*patronise	Jan 09 17:07
schestowitz	MinceR: Mir and all?	Jan 09 17:07
MinceR	not sure	Jan 09 17:07
schestowitz	How will that affect things, qt/gtk, kwin/mir?	Jan 09 17:07
MinceR	i don't know	Jan 09 17:07
schestowitz	Martin of KWin is upset att Mir	Jan 09 17:07
schestowitz	so that might mean KDE distros would not work or work well with future ubuntu apps	Jan 09 17:08
schestowitz	I think he now works for Blue Systems, used to be in RHAT IITC	Jan 09 17:08
MinceR	but ubuntu's way of doing everything their way and certain sw developers (especially corporate) idea of just going at the most popular distros is worrying a bit	Jan 09 17:08
schestowitz	!google valve says canonical licensing	Jan 09 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Valve unveils its Steam Machine prototype \| bit-gamer.net \| http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2013/11/05/valve-steam-machine-prototype/1	Jan 09 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Valve's Steam License Causes Linux Packaging Concerns - Slashdot \| http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/11/16/2037231/valves-steam-license-causes-linux-packaging-concerns	Jan 09 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - What Valve's Announcements Mean for Gaming - Slashdot \| http://games.slashdot.org/story/13/09/28/136230/what-valves-announcements-mean-for-gaming	Jan 09 17:08
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Canonical licenses H.264 – Theora out for the count? [Updated ... \| http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/canonical-licenses-h264-theora-out-for-the-count-updated	Jan 09 17:08
schestowitz	!google valve says ubuntu licensing	Jan 09 17:09
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Valve's Steam License Causes Linux Packaging Concerns - Slashdot \| http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/11/16/2037231/valves-steam-license-causes-linux-packaging-concerns	Jan 09 17:09
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - [Phoronix] Valve's Steam License Causes Linux Packaging Concerns \| http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dnews_item%26px%3DMTIyOTI	Jan 09 17:09
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Valve - Ubuntu Wiki \| https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve	Jan 09 17:09
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - How Valve's Controversial Move To Linux Is Affecting Windows ... \| http://www.noobslab.com/2012/09/how-valves-controversial-move-to-linux.html	Jan 09 17:09
MinceR	i don't know if client-side decorations will be coming back, for example	Jan 09 17:09
MinceR	(a truly horrid idea)	Jan 09 17:09
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JoeLlama	hrm why boycott novell? just curious	Jan 09 17:37
JoeLlama	I was a CNE back in the 90's	Jan 09 17:37
JoeLlama	welp :) nice visiting	Jan 09 17:59
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Sosumi	mir or should I call it	Jan 09 18:00
Sosumi	mirstake	Jan 09 18:00
Sosumi	but I really have no idea, heard moronical was going to drop the whole gnome foundation	Jan 09 18:01
Sosumi	but since they use QT	Jan 09 18:01
Sosumi	probably it'll work on non ubuntu forks	Jan 09 18:02
MinceR	unless they mangle everything because it has to be different	Jan 09 18:08
MinceR	like with the indicator crapplets	Jan 09 18:08
Sosumi	I doubt they are that masochist	Jan 09 18:12
Sosumi	well, even MIRstake doesn't make sense	Jan 09 18:24
Sosumi	why not just improve wayland/weston	Jan 09 18:25
Sosumi	to me they were just abusing their more dominant position at the time to try to create some lock in	Jan 09 18:26
Sosumi	it was also at that time that markie shutleworm went all apologetic with M$	Jan 09 18:27
MinceR	can wayland/weston run on top of surfaceflinger?	Jan 09 18:28
MinceR	that bit could be useful (since there's plenty of hw that certainly supports surfaceflinger)	Jan 09 18:28
Sosumi	no idea, but they could implement it into wayland/weston	Jan 09 18:29
Sosumi	but for finger stuff	Jan 09 18:29
Sosumi	android is already there for that	Jan 09 18:30
Sosumi	putting full desktop linux on a tablet just doesn't make sense	Jan 09 18:30
Sosumi	like the surface	Jan 09 18:31
Sosumi	or I personally don't like it	Jan 09 18:31
Sosumi	because if I'm going to have a portable device like a tablet, I want it to be always on	Jan 09 18:32
Sosumi	like android	Jan 09 18:32
Sosumi	on the case of the surface, that isn't so	Jan 09 18:32
Sosumi	because of the battery duration and heat	Jan 09 18:32
Sosumi	and before the arm comments arrive	Jan 09 18:33
Sosumi	not all sw works on it	Jan 09 18:33
MinceR	actually, running GNU/Linux/X on a tablet makes plenty of sense	Jan 09 18:33
MinceR	when you consider that they're much lighter than x86 laptops and last much longer on battery	Jan 09 18:34
MinceR	and (at least in the Tegra line) GPUs are coming with full profile OpenGL support	Jan 09 18:34
Sosumi	yeah, but android does that fine	Jan 09 18:34
MinceR	so more GNU/Linux/X games could run on it that way	Jan 09 18:34
MinceR	also, x2x and x2vnc could work	Jan 09 18:34
MinceR	can android capture the pointer or warp it, for example?	Jan 09 18:35
MinceR	then again, this sort of gaming is not such a high priority for me	Jan 09 18:35
Sosumi	I was referring to simply grabbing desktop linux and slapping it on a surface type tablet	Jan 09 18:35
Sosumi	that is horrible	Jan 09 18:36
MinceR	and if i really want an x2x hub, i can also use the raspberry pi for that	Jan 09 18:36
MinceR	the x86 surface or the ARM one?	Jan 09 18:36
MinceR	(both are crap, of course)	Jan 09 18:36
Sosumi	the x86	Jan 09 18:36
MinceR	that's probably no better than the convertible tablet pc i use now	Jan 09 18:36
MinceR	heavy, won't last on battery, uses active cooling (so you need to watch where you grab it)	Jan 09 18:37
Sosumi	yes they are trash, but the x86 is the only one that tries to put the typical desktop on a tablet	Jan 09 18:37
Sosumi	and the experience is horrendous	Jan 09 18:37
Sosumi	much better to simply have a normal laptop	Jan 09 18:37
MinceR	i'm not sure about that	Jan 09 18:37
Sosumi	kde on a tablet, anyone?	Jan 09 18:37
MinceR	there's the plasma active thing	Jan 09 18:38
MinceR	though i don't know if that can run x clients or not	Jan 09 18:38
Sosumi	hitting all those small icons and menus	Jan 09 18:38
MinceR	in any case, the occasional dual boot into X would be a nice option	Jan 09 18:38
Sosumi	talk about imputing some data on matlab	Jan 09 18:38
MinceR	you can reconfigure them to be bigger	Jan 09 18:38
Sosumi	or on terminal	Jan 09 18:38
Sosumi	I need an actual kb for actually be productive	Jan 09 18:39
MinceR	or use a stylus	Jan 09 18:39
MinceR	some tablets come with a wacom digitizer	Jan 09 18:39
Sosumi	and having a virtual kb eating half of the screen is just, pffff	Jan 09 18:39
MinceR	i have a usb keyboard	Jan 09 18:39
Sosumi	like the surface	Jan 09 18:39
Sosumi	and the handwrite recognition isn't accurate	Jan 09 18:40
MinceR	but in some cases i might prefer a virtual keyboard	Jan 09 18:40
MinceR	i stopped using handwriting recognition back when i used a palm	Jan 09 18:40
Sosumi	grafitti typeset worked well	Jan 09 18:41
MinceR	not too well	Jan 09 18:42
MinceR	even MessagEase was more usable	Jan 09 18:42
MinceR	but those resistive touchscreens were insensitive as a rock	Jan 09 18:43
Sosumi	I had a m130	Jan 09 18:43
MinceR	i had a Tungsten E2	Jan 09 18:43
Sosumi	one of those cheap models with a color display	Jan 09 18:43
Sosumi	and it was okish	Jan 09 18:43
MinceR	which bricked itself after a year and a month	Jan 09 18:43
Sosumi	the battery	Jan 09 18:44
Sosumi	kind of died after 2 years	Jan 09 18:44
Sosumi	and it was kind of stingy with the mmc cards	Jan 09 18:45
Sosumi	some, it wouldn't just read them	Jan 09 18:45
MinceR	i only had sd cards	Jan 09 18:45
Sosumi	no	Jan 09 18:45
Sosumi	but at that time	Jan 09 18:46
Sosumi	mmc was the standard	Jan 09 18:46
Sosumi	and that model only supported mmc	Jan 09 18:46
MinceR	i know it was the standard earlier :)	Jan 09 18:46
Sosumi	even my nokia 9500	Jan 09 18:46
Sosumi	which I got in release back in late 2005	Jan 09 18:46
Sosumi	only supported mmc	Jan 09 18:46
Sosumi	*on	Jan 09 18:47
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500515	Jan 09 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How the #NSA nearly destroyed the #internet http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-01/08/how-the-us-almost-killed-the-internet	Jan 09 18:48
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.wired.co.uk \| How the NSA nearly destroyed the internet (Wired UK) [ http://ur1.ca/gdmwm ]	Jan 09 18:48
schestowitz	"The Internet is part of 'military space', it has been since the beginning - through the deterritorialization brought about by capital (which is now virtual, and in many cases, the circulation of information) and its merger with geostrategy, cyberspace is about informational warfare and a 'deterritorialized' site of power. All of this NSA stuff was predicted in the 1980s&90s through cyber theory and the obscure branches of philosophy,	Jan 09 18:48
schestowitz	so if one is initially exposed to that particular discourse it is not really a surprise that these multinational giants would be subject to the security state...."	Jan 09 18:48
Sosumi	a reminder	Jan 09 19:03
Sosumi	http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/12/Household%20Income%20DC%20vs%20US_2.jpg	Jan 09 19:03
Sosumi	and GN	Jan 09 19:03
schestowitz	"The Internet is part of 'military space', it has been since the beginning - through the deterritorialization brought about by capital (which is now virtual, and in many cases, the circulation of information) and its merger with geostrategy, cyberspace is about informational warfare and a 'deterritorialized' site of power. All of this NSA stuff was predicted in the 1980s&90s through cyber theory and the obscure branches of philosophy (	Jan 09 19:06
schestowitz	ex: Way back in the day Virillio spoke of the personal computer as a "domestic surveillance terminal") so if one is initially exposed to that particular discourse it is not really a surprise that the security apparatuses have 'infiltrated' the Internet - they were there all along. Its also not a surprise that the multinational giants of the Virtual Class would be subject to the security state, seeing as how the private industry helped	Jan 09 19:06
schestowitz	engineer it."	Jan 09 19:06
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schestowitz	Sosumi: thanks, I used all your links from earlier	Jan 09 19:07
schestowitz	posted in social media sites	Jan 09 19:07
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schestowitz	British PP is collapsing http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/blog/2014/jan/9/reflections-former-nominating-officer/	Jan 09 19:17
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pirateparty.org.uk \| Reflections of a Former Nominating Officer - Pirate Party UK [ http://ur1.ca/gdn2j ]	Jan 09 19:17
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500048	Jan 09 19:19
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9245253/Intel_trumpets_Android_Windows_as_more_choice_ better than Windows-only (Wintel)	Jan 09 19:19
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.computerworld.com \| Intel trumpets Android+Windows as 'more choice' - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gdk1b ]	Jan 09 19:19
schestowitz	"Nothing is quite as easy as GNU/Linux but you won't see Intel trumpeting that."	Jan 09 19:19
icecrawler	because linux is useless	Jan 09 19:23
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MinceR	yet another troll	Jan 09 19:23
schestowitz	good, he won!	Jan 09 19:23
MinceR	lol	Jan 09 19:24
schestowitz	1999 called. It wants its trolls back.	Jan 09 19:24
schestowitz	"linux is useless"	Jan 09 19:24
schestowitz	Void of sunstance	Jan 09 19:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP launches Android powered All-in-One desktop	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	for business users http://t.co/n2Y9LsNTsN	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdna1	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Roku gets sucked into TVs	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nGlX37pNlQ	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdna2	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best word processors for GNU/Linux	Jan 09 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| HP launches Android powered All-in-One desktop for business users \| Tux Machines	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qp6Of3cnpi	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdna3	Jan 09 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Roku gets sucked into TVs \| Tux Machines	Jan 09 20:14
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Best word processors for GNU/Linux \| Tux Machines	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Linux Setup - Allan Day, GNOME Designer	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/afAk9eDUSI	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdna4	Jan 09 20:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Anatomy of a 22-year-old X Window bug: Get root	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	with newly uncovered flaw	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4wqurgafux	Jan 09 20:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdna6	Jan 09 20:14
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 23:07
DaemonFC	During Christmas, they were paying people $75 gift cards to take $49 iPhone 5c (with contract). iirc, the iPhone 5S, which is slightly less slow was $129 and then you got a $75 gift card.	Jan 09 23:07
DaemonFC	Since Apple's share of the US smart phone market dropped from 53 to 43% last year, as people migrate to Android, they're trying to stop the bleeding.	Jan 09 23:07
DaemonFC	http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57616679-37/iphone-market-share-shrinks-as-android-windows-phone-grow/	Jan 09 23:07
TechrightsBot-tr	news.cnet.com \| iPhone market share shrinks as Android, Windows Phone grow \| Apple - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gdo2t ]	Jan 09 23:07
DaemonFC	So, they were paying them $26 to take an iPhone.	Jan 09 23:07
DaemonFC	I wouldn't take one if they gave me a $100 bill. I came back and got my G2 when it went on the Cyber Monday sale.	Jan 09 23:07
DaemonFC	Also, the iPhone 5S is still having random application crashes, and reboots itself. Typical reliability problems for an Apple phone. Perhaps you're "holding it wrong" again.	Jan 09 23:07
DaemonFC	http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/02/iphone-5s-review-2014/	Jan 09 23:07
TechrightsBot-tr	www.gottabemobile.com \| iPhone 5s Review: 100 Days with Apple's New iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gc3zb ]	Jan 09 23:07
DaemonFC	The slow, unstable, technically obsolete "crystal prison" called iPhone is tanking.	Jan 09 23:07
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 23:14
DaemonFC	http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/17/technology/apple-china-jobs/	Jan 09 23:14
DaemonFC	"How do you convince a great American company to bring that manufacturing back here?"	Jan 09 23:14
DaemonFC	I don't know. Which company are you talking about? :	Jan 09 23:14
TechrightsBot-tr	money.cnn.com \| Why Apple will never bring manufacturing jobs back to U.S. - Oct. 17, 2012 [ http://ur1.ca/gdo3s ]	Jan 09 23:14
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 23:28
DaemonFC	As soon as the American people are willing to work 12-16 hour shifts, 6-7 days a week, for 25 cents an hour, with no overtime pay, no health insurance, no worker's comp, no Social Security, submit to forced abortions, agree to be exposed to hazardous chemicals throughout their entire shift, live in lice-infested company dorms, eat bad food with bugs living in it from the company cafeteria, and have the company dock half their pay to pay for	Jan 09 23:28
DaemonFC	this "room and board", companies like Apple will gladly bring the jobs back to the USA.	Jan 09 23:28
DaemonFC	You just have to agree to give up everything. And, of course, like Apple's factories in China, there will be worker suicides every single day, but those people are not important, and everyone can be replaced tomorrow, including you.	Jan 09 23:28
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 23:42
DaemonFC	"Apple never played for market share, it has always played for the premium."	Jan 09 23:42
DaemonFC	Yes, the premium Apple products. You get a premium $75 Walmart gift card when you buy the premium $49 Apple product at Walmart. Then you can go get yourself some premium Walmart underwear on the way out! ;)	Jan 09 23:42
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 23:43
DaemonFC	http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/5550.jpg	Jan 09 23:43
DaemonFC	This is why all of the gold ones sold out.	Jan 09 23:43
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 09 23:52
DaemonFC	Well, anyone that thinks the economy is in the crapper now had better wait until the right-wing politicians allow Social Security and Medicare to run out of money. Imagine adding 60 million more people who have no jobs or money to this economy, and then millions of nurses aides, nurses, an doctors who were making their living from Medicare are unemployed on top of that. It's not too difficult to imagine a future where 100 million Americans (	Jan 09 23:52
DaemonFC	maybe more) are unemployed, have no income, and have no health care.	Jan 09 23:52
DaemonFC	Maybe there is something to this "government is stocking up on bullets" thing. I don't know. It's just a guess. They're either going to have to fix it or get ready to shoot everyone that starts rioting when the entire system falls apart.	Jan 09 23:52
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 00:17
DaemonFC	We had modern graphical user interfaces in the 1990s, just not on Macs. I think you must have missed this thing called Windows 95.	Jan 10 00:17
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DaemonFC	http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/01/man-allegedly-kills-stepdad-with-atomic-wedgie/	Jan 10 01:00
TechrightsBot-tr	abcnews.go.com \| Man Allegedly Kills Stepdad with ‘Atomic Wedgie’ - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/gdoib ]	Jan 10 01:00
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedgie	Jan 10 01:02
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Wedgie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	Jan 10 01:02
DaemonFC	On the 9th of January 2014 multiple news sources reported the first confirmed death by atomic wedgie. Brad Lee-Davis, a 33 year old Oklahoma native, is alleged to have drunkenly fought with his stepfather 58 year old Denver Lee-St. Clair. During the altercation Lee-Davis grabbed Lee-St. Clair's elastic wasitband and underwear, pulled it over his head, and suffocated him with the waistband. [4] Oklahoma Medical Examiner spokeswoman Amy Elliot	Jan 10 01:02
DaemonFC	t said the cause of death was asphyxiation and blunt force trauma.[5]	Jan 10 01:02
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=TxWQ357IAR8U7C&newContentID=MxB35D5BUURI22&newContentNum=40#Mx2SDMKVK45BCMV	Jan 10 01:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Norway is financially solvent [ http://ur1.ca/gdoo5 ]	Jan 10 01:38
DaemonFC	" ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 01:38
DaemonFC	So, when the government is in debt, we pay taxes. When the government is in surplus, we pay taxes. When the government wants to stockpile money, we pay taxes and are forced to sit back and watch while the government slashes programs and services that benefited almost all of us, and cuts taxes on the rich.	Jan 10 01:38
DaemonFC	That's what happened here in Indiana. Those surpluses didn't come from nowhere. The newspaper in Kokomo pointed out that the mother of a man with spina bifida had to fight the state medicaid office for years while they kept sending denial notices and "losing the paperwork" she sent in.	Jan 10 01:38
DaemonFC	That's where the state surpluses are coming from. They're coming from a lot of places. That's why the highways aren't being plowed and salted in a timely manner. That's why classrooms are overcrowded and schools are begging McDonalds, Coca Cola, and Microsoft for money and computers. Microsoft is very happy to give schools computers running Windows, for the same reason the cigarette companies were happy to give free cigarettes to children in	Jan 10 01:38
DaemonFC	the 60s.	Jan 10 01:39
DaemonFC	I remember when I was in school, the school got money from Coke in exchange for putting in Coke machines and a "Fruitopia" machine in the lunchroom. That really helps kids pack on the pounds. That's why we have so many 300 pound 12 year olds wheezing up the school steps."	Jan 10 01:39
Sosumi	"Poisontopia"	Jan 10 01:44
DaemonFC	Fruitopia doesn't even exist here anymore.	Jan 10 01:45
DaemonFC	It disappeared from the shelves at the supermarket around 2000-2001?	Jan 10 01:46
DaemonFC	I remember that they had it on tap at the fountains too, at McDonalds and the gas stations.	Jan 10 01:46
DaemonFC	That disappeared sometime around 2003-2004 I think.	Jan 10 01:46
Sosumi	and with crapple bringing "assembly" into the US, well those are the hallmarks of trying to compete with slave labor countries	Jan 10 01:47
DaemonFC	I think what happened was that they stopped making it, but they kept selling off the syrup that they had already produced.	Jan 10 01:47
DaemonFC	So you could get it from the fountains for about two more years.	Jan 10 01:47
Sosumi	you just can't and that is why really defend import tariffs	Jan 10 01:47
Sosumi	disgusting	Jan 10 01:47
DaemonFC	Fountain syrup lasts about a year if it's diet, and about 2-3 years if it's regular.	Jan 10 01:47
DaemonFC	The expiration on regular mountain dew syrup is about 2 years.	Jan 10 01:48
DaemonFC	Most regular syrup is about 3.	Jan 10 01:48
DaemonFC	So, that would account for why it was available at fountains for so long.	Jan 10 01:48
DaemonFC	They probably had an entire warehouse full, so they just kept shipping it out.	Jan 10 01:48
DaemonFC	It was pretty nasty.	Jan 10 01:49
Sosumi	pfffff, so disgusting	Jan 10 01:49
DaemonFC	It used to be a small company.	Jan 10 01:50
DaemonFC	They made it with cane sugar and real fruit juice.	Jan 10 01:50
DaemonFC	Coca Cola took them over and switched it to High Fructose Corn Syrup and "natural flavors".	Jan 10 01:50
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 10 01:50
DaemonFC	I bought it once after Coke started supplying it, and it tasted nothing like it did before.	Jan 10 01:51
Sosumi	so, they cheapened the formula after acquisition	Jan 10 01:51
Sosumi	but I just can't imagine how good a bottled juice might have tasted	Jan 10 01:53
Sosumi	since I've never tasted a good onw	Jan 10 01:53
Sosumi	one	Jan 10 01:53
Sosumi	nor I buy them	Jan 10 01:53
Sosumi	I just eat the fruits or sometimes in the summer	Jan 10 01:54
Sosumi	a really fresh orange juice	Jan 10 01:54
Sosumi	http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/hp-launches-android-powered-one-desktop-business-users/19001	Jan 10 01:59
TechrightsBot-tr	www.muktware.com \| HP launches Android powered All-in-One desktop for business users \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gdorr ]	Jan 10 01:59
Sosumi	would make a nice thin client	Jan 10 01:59
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Sosumi	also, how's the weather?	Jan 10 02:05
Sosumi	still kind of buried under the snow?	Jan 10 02:05
amarsh04	41 C, 41 C and 43 C forecast for three days next week here	Jan 10 02:08
DaemonFC	It snowed some more yesterday.	Jan 10 02:15
Sosumi	amarsh04, where are you located?	Jan 10 02:21
Sosumi	australia?	Jan 10 02:21
amarsh04	Adelaide, South Australia	Jan 10 02:22
Sosumi	I guessed it right then :)	Jan 10 02:23
Sosumi	for us it's going to be rain and more rain with temps ranging from 10 to 20ºC	Jan 10 02:24
schestowitz	Sosumi: thanks, posted	Jan 10 03:39
schestowitz	LOL http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/5550.jpg	Jan 10 03:42
schestowitz	http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/02/iphone-5s-review-2014/	Jan 10 03:43
TechrightsBot-tr	www.gottabemobile.com \| iPhone 5s Review: 100 Days with Apple's New iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gc3zb ]	Jan 10 03:43
schestowitz	"Apple will need to work hard to keep users interested"	Jan 10 03:43
schestowitz	Cultsa are not interested	Jan 10 03:43
schestowitz	They're mesmerised	Jan 10 03:44
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 04:19
DaemonFC	Structural government surpluses hurt the economy. They're a sign that either the taxes are too high or that the government should be providing more services.	Jan 10 04:19
DaemonFC	Indiana shouldn't be stockpiling several billion dollars. It should build roads. It should build schools. It should expand Medicaid. It should pay off outstanding debt. At the very least, they should give it back on next year's tax returns so that the people of Indiana can spend the money.	Jan 10 04:19
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DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_dollar	Jan 10 04:27
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| History of the United States dollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gdplg ]	Jan 10 04:28
DaemonFC	"In 1963, the words 'PAYABLE TO THE BEARER ON DEMAND' were removed from all newly issued Federal Reserve notes."	Jan 10 04:28
DaemonFC	I've seen those notes in circulation, but it's been about 20 years.	Jan 10 04:28
DaemonFC	They've probably all been destroyed or kept by collectors.	Jan 10 04:28
iophk	http://torrentfreak.com/viewing-pirated-streams-is-not-illegal-german-govt-says-140109/	Jan 10 04:44
TechrightsBot-tr	torrentfreak.com \| Viewing Pirated Streams is Not Illegal, German Govt Says \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gdpo6 ]	Jan 10 04:44
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 05:00
DaemonFC	Speaking of the military....	Jan 10 05:00
DaemonFC	"[Fighting patents with] prior art is like US soldiers in Iraq. They control the ground they stand on and nothing more. I used to say Vietnam, but, well, you know...." -Richard Stallman	Jan 10 05:00
iophk	http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57616983-93/google-begins-to-merge-google-gmail-contacts/	Jan 10 05:26
TechrightsBot-tr	news.cnet.com \| Google begins to merge Google+, Gmail contacts \| Internet & Media - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gdpuc ]	Jan 10 05:26
iophk	http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/10562832/Google-links-social-network-contacts-to-Gmail.html	Jan 10 06:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.telegraph.co.uk \| Google links social network contacts to Gmail - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gdpz5 ]	Jan 10 06:02
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iophk	http://abcnews.go.com/Business/google-invitation-sends-man-jail/story?id=21481276	Jan 10 06:51
TechrightsBot-tr	abcnews.go.com \| Google Invitation Sends Man to Jail - ABC News [ http://ur1.ca/gdq81 ]	Jan 10 06:51
DaemonFC	There's a Free Software Foundation credit card now.	Jan 10 07:18
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 07:24
DaemonFC	The best thing that NAFTA ever did was to deeply harm the economy of Mexico (well that's not the good part, the good part is coming) and scare off Central and South American countries from George W. Bush's proposal to extend NAFTA to be the "free trade area of the Americas". It's also concerning some countries and turning them off to the idea of the Trans Pacific Partnership.	Jan 10 07:24
DaemonFC	These countries are having 3-8% GDP growth and don't want to end up like Mexico's 1 or 2%. They also don't want to let their own citizens die so that US drug companies can make an obscene fortune off of the sick.	Jan 10 07:24
DaemonFC	https://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/01/04-1	Jan 10 07:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.commondreams.org \| NAFTA: 20 Years of Regret for Mexico \| Common Dreams [ http://ur1.ca/gdqcs ]	Jan 10 07:24
DaemonFC	"NAFTA: Twenty Years of Regret for Mexico"	Jan 10 07:24
DaemonFC	Twenty years of regret for the United States working class too. Bill Hicks said it best. I can't remember the exact words, but I'll get as close as I can. "There is no debate about NAFTA. These rich people are going to sell your whole life out from under you.".	Jan 10 07:24
iophk	http://www.salon.com/2014/01/09/the_freedom_bush_touted_for_iraq_looks_more_like_bloody_civil_war_partner/	Jan 10 07:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.salon.com \| Bush’s Iraqi “freedom”: Bloody civil war - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdqgx ]	Jan 10 07:48
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iophk	"M$, too" strategy -- again	Jan 10 09:52
iophk	http://mrpogson.com/2014/01/10/schizophrenic-it-policy-at-european-commission/	Jan 10 09:52
TechrightsBot-tr	mrpogson.com \| Schizophrenic IT Policy at European Commission \| Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gdqz9 ]	Jan 10 09:52
iophk	"ODF is supported only upon request and the documents may contain formatting errors"	Jan 10 09:53
DaemonFC	It seems that the xfce and mate versions of Fedora are using Yum extender.	Jan 10 10:03
DaemonFC	Uggh.	Jan 10 10:03
DaemonFC	I see that it hasn't gotten any faster.	Jan 10 10:03
Sosumi	http://www.anandtech.com/show/7613/asus-p9x79e-ws-review/8	Jan 10 10:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.anandtech.com \| AnandTech \| ASUS P9X79-E WS Review: Xeon meets PLX for 7x [ http://ur1.ca/gdr3h ]	Jan 10 10:19
Sosumi	nice board	Jan 10 10:19
Sosumi	but all the testing was done in vista7	Jan 10 10:19
Sosumi	even through asus, officially supports linux on their WS grade boards	Jan 10 10:20
DaemonFC	It looks like Fedora has been fixing up Compiz.	Jan 10 10:21
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DaemonFC	They dropped the 0.9.x branch that was rewritten in C++ (the one from Ubuntu), and went back to the 0.8.8 branch.	Jan 10 10:21
DaemonFC	The patched up 0.8.8 release is the default window manager on the Fedora MATE spin.	Jan 10 10:21
DaemonFC	It makes sense. The old Compiz branch worked pretty well.	Jan 10 10:22
DaemonFC	I didn't start having major problems with it until I tried the 0.9 series.	Jan 10 10:22
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iophk	http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2014/01/defensive-patent-licence-nice-idea-alas-not-much-use/index.htm	Jan 10 10:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ZOL relaunches local mirror for largest Linux	Jan 10 10:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Which version of Linux do you use?	Jan 10 10:54
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Sosumi	DaemonFC, weren't you using KDE?	Jan 10 11:00
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_rvt_np?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=TxHBFD2RDXAOUG	Jan 10 11:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Surprise! Walmart health plan is cheaper, offers more coverage than ObamaCare [ http://ur1.ca/gdrmc ]	Jan 10 11:51
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 11:51
DaemonFC	"The medical journal reported a 30-year-old smoker would pay up to $428 per month, in contrast to roughly $70 each month for a Walmart employee."	Jan 10 11:51
DaemonFC	My boyfriend is a 24 year old smoker. For the Affordable Care Act marketplace silver plan, he pays $56 a month.	Jan 10 11:51
DaemonFC	"Walmart individuals face a $2,750 deductible and families need to pay $5,500 under the HRA plan. Individuals pay $1,750 and families pay $3,500 deductibles under the HRA High plan."	Jan 10 11:51
DaemonFC	My boyfriend has no deductible under his ACA marketplace Silver plan. Asking a Walmart employee to come up with $1,750 is ludicrous. You might as well ask them to cough up $175,000. $2,750? **** you! :)	Jan 10 11:51
DaemonFC	No non-management Walmart employee has $1,750 in the bank. Most of them are so poor that they don't even have a bank account. They're living paycheck to paycheck on about $8 an hour, and getting less than 30 hours a week. You do the math and get back to me on where the **** they're going to find $1,750. And that's just the deductible. After you hit the deductible, you still have co-pays, "co-insurance", and a laundry list of other nightmares.	Jan 10 11:51
DaemonFC	My boyfriend's ACA plan has a $500 a month maximum out of pocket cap. Walmart's has no such cap. My boyfriend pays nothing to see his primary care physician under the ACA marketplace silver plan. With Walmart, you have to reach the $1,750 deductible, and then you pay your co-pay. My boyfriend pays $10 to see a specialist. God only knows what Walmart's junk insurance plan makes you pay to see a specialist.	Jan 10 11:51
DaemonFC	"Many top-rated Walmart hospitals - such as the Mayo and Cleveland clinics - are left out of most Obamacare exchange plans."	Jan 10 11:51
DaemonFC	A Walmart employee that makes $8 an hour is not going to the Mayo Clinic, so who gives a rat's ***? My boyfriend's ACA marketplace silver plan covers all hospitals in this area of Indiana, including Parkview, DuPont, and Lutheran.	Jan 10 11:51
DaemonFC	err, $500 a year cap, I meant	Jan 10 11:52
DaemonFC	that's not bad at all	Jan 10 11:52
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 11:56
DaemonFC	It would be better if the government could just send Walmart the bill for all of the public services their employees use, plus all of the administrative costs for running the programs.	Jan 10 11:56
DaemonFC	I have a feeling that they'd get full time hours, real health insurance, and maybe even a raise.	Jan 10 11:56
DaemonFC	I, for one, am tired of paying Hell Mart's employees when I don't even shop there.	Jan 10 11:56
MinceR	geekings	Jan 10 12:01
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2Y70QIIA0WFFL	Jan 10 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: 57% of Republicans are completely and utterly braindead. [ http://ur1.ca/gdrny ]	Jan 10 12:03
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 12:03
DaemonFC	http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/03/republican-views-on-evolution-tracking-how-its-changed/	Jan 10 12:03
DaemonFC	57% of Republicans don't believe in the fact of evolution. I guess that when they get resistant bacterial infections, they stand there and argue with the doctor that penicillin should still work because there's no such thing as evolution.	Jan 10 12:03
DaemonFC	"You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved? You ever noticed that? Eyes real close together, eyebrow ridges, big furry hands and feet. 'I believe God created me in one day'. Yeah, looks like he rushed it!"	Jan 10 12:03
TechrightsBot-tr	www.pewresearch.org \| Republicans’ views on evolution \| Pew Research Center [ http://ur1.ca/gdrnz ]	Jan 10 12:03
DaemonFC	-Bill Hicks	Jan 10 12:03
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 12:08
DaemonFC	I heard that Texas is keeping a braindead woman alive on life support to incubate a fetus.	Jan 10 12:08
DaemonFC	I asked why this is news. Texas has plenty of braindead people. Many of them walk around and even vote for Republicans like Rick Perry.	Jan 10 12:08
Sosumi	or Wiltard Mittens Robbery	Jan 10 12:13
MinceR	Rmoney	Jan 10 12:13
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 12:14
DaemonFC	I'm glad that the holidays are over for a while.	Jan 10 12:14
DaemonFC	You find yourself at the dinner table with these people. These people that think that America is special and that the billions of dollars that flow out of taxpayers pockets each year to Israel is an insurance policy between us and The Big Cheese. They haven't managed to notice that their standard of living has been in decline since the 70s, with a brief interruption during the 90s, while everything that was left was busy being dismantled (wh	Jan 10 12:14
DaemonFC	ich caused some economic activity in the process).	Jan 10 12:14
DaemonFC	And now, all of a sudden, it's all Obama's fault.	Jan 10 12:14
DaemonFC	Geniuses....	Jan 10 12:15
DaemonFC	I don't think that people realized what the 1990s "economic miracle" was.	Jan 10 12:17
DaemonFC	"Here. We have a job for you. Take these machines apart and load them on the truck. It's all going to Mexico!"	Jan 10 12:17
DaemonFC	On the news.... "Unemployment is down to 3.8%! Life is good. The future is bright!"	Jan 10 12:17
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 12:23
DaemonFC	And right-wingers sicken me when they say that the minimum wage of $7.25 an hour is all that a human being is worth.	Jan 10 12:23
DaemonFC	Some of them argue for repealing it completely, because they don't even feel that a human being is worth one penny every five seconds.	Jan 10 12:23
DaemonFC	When you ask them why they feel that way, they say that people who make minimum wage deserve it because they have no way of resisting or fighting back. That's what unions used to do for workers. Saying someone deserves whatever they get because they can't fight back? Sounds like someone that's trying to make an excuse for a rapist. In fact, the right-wingers do that as well.	Jan 10 12:23
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 12:26
DaemonFC	I'd like to see the "labor force" fall. It should happen faster. It will bring the pool of available workers down, fewer people will be fighting for bad jobs. If it goes far enough, wages could start rising again.	Jan 10 12:26
DaemonFC	This is one reason why it's important to not have kids.	Jan 10 12:26
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iophk	http://www.philly.com/philly/news/nation_world/20140110_Snowden_downloaded_1_7M_files__Pentagon_report_concludes.html	Jan 10 13:00
TechrightsBot-tr	www.philly.com \| Snowden downloaded 1.7M files, Pentagon report concludes [ http://ur1.ca/gds2j ]	Jan 10 13:00
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 13:07
DaemonFC	Calling the police because someone farted in class is a waste of police time and taxpayer money.	Jan 10 13:07
DaemonFC	Don't the police have anything better to do? Most areas of the country have some unsolved murders that they could be working on instead.	Jan 10 13:07
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 13:07
DaemonFC	I've got an idea. We slip Fiber One bars into the school lunches. Nobody in the school can stop farting. The governor declares a state of emergency and calls out the National Guard. :)	Jan 10 13:07
MinceR	it seems that the police don't have anything useful to do	Jan 10 13:09
MinceR	ever	Jan 10 13:09
DaemonFC	It does seem like that sometimes.	Jan 10 13:09
DaemonFC	Thank you for protecting us from the guy that wasn't wearing his seatbelt and had a joint in the car that he was planning to smoke later, quietly, in his own home, without bothering anyone.	Jan 10 13:11
DaemonFC	What would we ever do without our brave men and women in law enforcement?	Jan 10 13:11
iophk	http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140110/METRO01/301100080/Police-Cops-who-pulled-Cushingberry-over-wanted-arrest-him	Jan 10 13:13
TechrightsBot-tr	www.detroitnews.com \| Police: Cops who pulled Cushingberry over wanted to arrest him \| The Detroit News [ http://ur1.ca/gds6p ]	Jan 10 13:13
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 13:18
DaemonFC	Does it bother anybody that Republicans that say being gay is sick and unnatural have no problem at all keeping a dead woman on life support for several months to incubate a fetus that is probably going to have severe mental retardation or physical deformities, if it even lives?	Jan 10 13:18
DaemonFC	In reply to your post on Jan 10, 2014 10:18:59 AM PST	Jan 10 13:20
DaemonFC	morehumanthanhuman says:	Jan 10 13:20
DaemonFC	Well, if she didn't want to be brain dead and pregnant on life support, she shouldn't have had sex, am I right?	Jan 10 13:20
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 13:20
DaemonFC	No personal responsibility at all! What is this beautiful country of ours coming to? :P	Jan 10 13:20
Sosumi	union pay and a protective tariff	Jan 10 13:41
Sosumi	and ofc, repudiation of the free exploitation treaties	Jan 10 13:41
Sosumi	aka, nafta	Jan 10 13:42
Sosumi	and no more 7.25$ an hour	Jan 10 13:42
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iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-administration-to-end-contract-with-cgi-federal-company-behind-healthcaregov/2014/01/10/001eb05a-719e-11e3-8b3f-b1666705ca3b_story.html	Jan 10 14:38
iophk	http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/10/white-house-switch-obamacare-contractors-healthcar/	Jan 10 14:38
iophk	http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/10/5295520/white-house-reportedly-dumps-cgi-federal-healthcare-gov	Jan 10 14:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| Obama administration to end contract with CGI Federal, company behind HealthCare.gov - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/gdst6 ]	Jan 10 14:38
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtontimes.com \| White House switch Obamacare contractors for HealthCare.gov - Washington Times [ http://ur1.ca/gdst7 ]	Jan 10 14:39
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theverge.com \| White House reportedly dumps main Healthcare.gov contractor \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/gdst8 ]	Jan 10 14:39
iophk	First the site is taken over by an M$ agent, who now brings in an M$ sales team to take over.	Jan 10 14:40
iophk	The new contract is not yet signed but it is a risk	Jan 10 14:40
iophk	"CGI will be replaced by Accenture as the primary contractor on Healthcare.gov."	Jan 10 14:40
iophk	"Federal health officials are preparing to sign a 12-month contract worth roughly $90 million, probably early next week, with a different company, Accenture"	Jan 10 14:41
iophk	"CMS is awarding the Accenture contract on a sole-source basis" -- another no-bid deal, a fine tradition carried over from the previous administration.	Jan 10 14:41
iophk	Accenture was the one that did in the LSE too	Jan 10 14:43
iophk	http://www.computerweekly.com/news/1280095139/London-Stock-Exchange-migrates-to-MillenniumIT-platform	Jan 10 14:46
TechrightsBot-tr	www.computerweekly.com \| London Stock Exchange migrates to MillenniumIT platform [ http://ur1.ca/gdsuo ]	Jan 10 14:46
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/26/lse_crash_again/	Jan 10 14:52
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| London's stock exchange crashes again • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gdsvn ]	Jan 10 14:52
Sosumi	strange	Jan 10 14:59
Sosumi	I thought london was on redhat	Jan 10 14:59
iophk	LSE booted M$ and Accenture a while back	Jan 10 14:59
iophk	both failed too often	Jan 10 14:59
iophk	http://blogs.computerworld.com/17202/london_stock_exchange_moves_to_linux	Jan 10 15:00
TechrightsBot-tr	blogs.computerworld.com \| London Stock Exchange moves to Linux \| Computerworld Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/24wst ]	Jan 10 15:00
Sosumi	yeah	Jan 10 15:00
Sosumi	so my memory didn't fail me	Jan 10 15:00
Sosumi	:)	Jan 10 15:00
iophk	There are some interests that really want ACA to fail. So it is no surprise that they brought in a 'former' M$ staffer and less of a surprise that it brought in an M$ sales team. Probably to make it really fail they will bring in IIS and .NOT	Jan 10 15:06
iophk	all that would guarantee spectacular failure	Jan 10 15:07
iophk	and lock-in	Jan 10 15:09
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3498104	Jan 10 15:09
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google wants an Android in every Audi and Honda http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/ces/10553554/Google-wants-an-Android-in-every-Audi-and-Honda.html #surveillance in every car unless we can reflash with Replicant	Jan 10 15:09
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Google wants an Android in every Audi and Honda - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gdc2j ]	Jan 10 15:09
schestowitz	"@Vostok You really think it's just Audi and Honda because of the installed Android? http://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1 "	Jan 10 15:09
TechrightsBot-tr	www.businessinsider.com \| Ford Exec: 'We Know Everyone Who Breaks The Law' Thanks To Our GPS In Your Car - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gdsyn ]	Jan 10 15:09
Sosumi	I think if M$ dropped the registry and all the bloat	Jan 10 15:10
iophk	and the OS itself	Jan 10 15:10
Sosumi	they'd be able to actually make winblows reliable	Jan 10 15:10
iophk	maybe if they dropped the kernel too	Jan 10 15:10
Sosumi	no idea how bad or good the winblows kernel is	Jan 10 15:10
iophk	they could restart with FreeBSD kernel and GNU user space and a tricked out KDE for the UI	Jan 10 15:10
Sosumi	and pull an apple	Jan 10 15:11
Sosumi	because that is what apple does	Jan 10 15:11
MinceR	what iophk said	Jan 10 15:11
MinceR	well, crApple could improve a lot too, if they didn't mangle FreeBSD so much	Jan 10 15:11
MinceR	if they used X instead of their useless windowing system	Jan 10 15:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500321	Jan 10 15:11
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Millions of fools use #amazon (close #cia partner) thinking that they get anonymous (NOT! &Microsoft-friendly) search http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/09/anonymous-search-tool-duckduckgo-1bn-queries-2013-google	Jan 10 15:11
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.theguardian.com \| Anonymous search tool DuckDuckGo answered 1bn queries in 2013 \| Technology \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdlze ]	Jan 10 15:11
schestowitz	"	Jan 10 15:11
schestowitz	The conversations I've seen with Diaspora developers never hid or denied the problems with AWS. This is one of the reasons joindiaspora is no longer taking new users.	Jan 10 15:11
schestowitz	The FAQ talks about privacy in general,	Jan 10 15:11
schestowitz	How much of my information can my pod administrator see?	Jan 10 15:11
schestowitz	... the storage of data on pods is not encrypted. If they wanted to, the database administrator for your pod (usually the person running the pod) could access all your profile data and everything that you post (as is the case for most websites that store user data). Running your own pod provides more privacy since you then control access to the database.	Jan 10 15:11
schestowitz	"	Jan 10 15:11
Sosumi	yep, windowsserver is terrible	Jan 10 15:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3501100	Jan 10 15:12
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: DC http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/12/Household%20Income%20DC%20vs%20US_2.jpg	Jan 10 15:12
schestowitz	"No page found.:	Jan 10 15:12
schestowitz	Need to cpy and paste the link in browser. Odd. JD bug?	Jan 10 15:13
Sosumi	and it isn't just windowserver that is terrible, but also crapple's implementation of x11	Jan 10 15:21
schestowitz	implementation?	Jan 10 15:22
schestowitz	IOr compat?	Jan 10 15:22
Sosumi	xquartz	Jan 10 15:22
schestowitz	Or lack thereof after some years back?	Jan 10 15:22
Sosumi	no, there was x11 and then crapple deprecated it into a "community maintained" version called xquartz	Jan 10 15:23
Sosumi	which means,	Jan 10 15:23
Sosumi	if with x11, bugs took a while to fix	Jan 10 15:23
Sosumi	with xquarts they take an eternity	Jan 10 15:23
Sosumi	so I don't really recommend doing any serious work with programs that require X to work on osx	Jan 10 15:24
Sosumi	chances are, it will crash and you lose your work	Jan 10 15:25
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/01/for-playstation-now-streaming-the-devils-in-the-unknown-details/	Jan 10 15:28
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| For PlayStation Now streaming, the devil’s in the unknown details \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gdt1i ]	Jan 10 15:28
Sosumi	as it looks, some ps games will play on tablets (probably only sony's)	Jan 10 15:29
Sosumi	and "smart"tvs	Jan 10 15:29
Sosumi	$ony does what micro$oftdon't	Jan 10 15:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora 20 (Peach) released with a side of	Jan 10 15:53
TweetTuxMachines	website refreshments http://t.co/3ATqTBihnV	Jan 10 15:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdt6n	Jan 10 15:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Ended 2013 With 46k Open Bug Reports	Jan 10 15:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Korora 20 (Peach) released with a side of website refreshments \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 15:53
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Av0eCuZ2zc	Jan 10 15:53
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME Ended 2013 With 46k Open Bug Reports \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 15:53
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iophk	http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/01/09/3860169/innovative-move-by-wwe-with-first.html	Jan 10 16:22
TechrightsBot-tr	www.miamiherald.com \| Innovative move by WWE with first 24/7 live streaming service network launch - Wrestling - MiamiHerald.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdtby ]	Jan 10 16:22
iophk	leaving cable and ppv behind in the dust	Jan 10 16:22
schestowitz__	good	Jan 10 16:22
schestowitz__	it'll possibly weaken broadvcat	Jan 10 16:23
schestowitz__	i.e. brainwash	Jan 10 16:23
schestowitz__	that said, the www is being taken over by MPAA and ilk	Jan 10 16:23
schestowitz__	under Tim B-L's watch	Jan 10 16:23
schestowitz__	and net neutrality is on its death throes	Jan 10 16:23
iophk	Is he still boosting DRM despite once promoting the open WWW?	Jan 10 16:24
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3500745	Jan 10 16:24
TechrightsBot-tr	@psychonot@pod.orkz.net: Been busting @{Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ; schestowitz@joindiaspora.com}'s balls all day (mainly because we disagree on a lot) but all in all my thread would not be what it is without him.	Jan 10 16:24
iophk	How long will HBO remain on cable?	Jan 10 16:24
schestowitz__	"Also Roy I thought you might be interested in this whonix@pod.orkz.net"	Jan 10 16:24
schestowitz__	iophk: he welcomed MPAA to W3C	Jan 10 16:24
schestowitz__	I thought you had heard	Jan 10 16:24
schestowitz__	Big news some days ago	Jan 10 16:25
iophk	I missed that. I just knew about the DRM	Jan 10 16:25
schestowitz__	!google mpaa w3c	Jan 10 16:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Not Cool: MPAA Joins The W3C \| Techdirt \| http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140107/11263425789/not-cool-mpaa-joins-w3c.shtml	Jan 10 16:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - The MPAA just joined the W3C, what could possibly go wrong ... \| http://www.geek.com/apps/the-mpaa-just-joined-the-w3c-what-could-possibly-go-wrong-1581563/	Jan 10 16:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Not Cool: MPAA Joins The W3C : technology - Reddit \| http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1unig0/not_cool_mpaa_joins_the_w3c/	Jan 10 16:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - MPAA joins W3C, giving it a voice on the future of the web - AfterDawn \| http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2014/01/08/mpaa_joins_w3c_giving_it_a_voice_on_the_future_of_the_web	Jan 10 16:25
iophk	ouch ouch ouch	Jan 10 16:25
schestowitz__	!google mpaa install spyware on pc	Jan 10 16:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - RIAA/MPAA Want Government-Mandated Spyware That Deletes ... \| http://gizmodo.com/5517850/riaampaa-want-government%2Bmandated-spyware-that-deletes-infringing-content-automatically	Jan 10 16:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - Protecting Your PC - University of Wisconsin - Green Bay \| http://www.uwgb.edu/resnet/protectYourPC.htm	Jan 10 16:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Hotfile ordered to pay damages, install copyright ... - PC Advisor \| http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/internet/3492128/hotfile-ordered-to-pay-damages-install-copyright-filtering-says-mpaa/	Jan 10 16:25
TechrightsBot-tr	[4] - Dell's Twitter Account Apologizes For The 'Inconvenience' Of ... \| http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131230/17174425718/dells-twitter-account-apologizes-inconvenience-helping-nsa-place-hidden-bios-bug.shtml	Jan 10 16:25
iophk	http://ces.cnet.com/8301-35296_1-57616860/mpaa-joins-web-standards-group-amid-video-drm-dispute/	Jan 10 16:27
TechrightsBot-tr	ces.cnet.com \| MPAA joins Web standards group amid video DRM dispute \| CES 2014: Home Theater and Audio - CNET Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/gdtcp ]	Jan 10 16:27
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 16:57
DaemonFC	I'm glad that I'm not a woman. I don't mean that as disrespect to women. I'm just glad that I don't have those particular body parts that "small government Republicans that want to get government out of your healthcare" are so hell bent on regulating.	Jan 10 16:57
Sosumi	remember those sony published music cds that forced you to install a built program in order to play the files?	Jan 10 17:02
Sosumi	and that the program was easily exploitable?	Jan 10 17:02
Sosumi	I think something also happened with some sony usb keys	Jan 10 17:03
Sosumi	but it is around the same thing the copywrong cartel wants	Jan 10 17:03
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Sosumi	and actually, the windows smartscreen is kind of exactly that	Jan 10 17:04
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Sosumi	sending to m$ all the stuff that you open and install into your computer	Jan 10 17:05
Sosumi	M$ could just expand the functionality to allow "content holders" a feed on which media files you have on your hdd	Jan 10 17:07
Sosumi	basically an audit	Jan 10 17:07
Sosumi	and let them choose either to delete said files or not	Jan 10 17:08
MinceR	http://p.coldline.hu/2014/01/10/1309468-20140110-oHMmxJ.jpg	Jan 10 17:18
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 17:44
DaemonFC	I liked that moment when Wolf Blitzer walked through the wreckage of an Oklahoma town where everyone was thanking god for just killing their neighbors and not them.	Jan 10 17:44
DaemonFC	He walked up to a woman and asked her if she was thankful to god. She says "I'm an atheist.".	Jan 10 17:44
DaemonFC	That awkward moment when you're a presumptuous cock....	Jan 10 17:44
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA2fRyllDSE	Jan 10 17:44
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Ha! Wolf Blitzer Asks Atheist Tornado Survivor If She 'Thanked The Lord' - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtmu ]	Jan 10 17:44
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MinceR	lol	Jan 10 17:47
MinceR	in their thoroughly warped worldview, not being killed in every single moment is a special mercy from a god who they somehow believe to be good	Jan 10 17:48
DaemonFC	It's OK as long as he's only killing the neighbors.	Jan 10 17:51
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 10 17:51
DaemonFC	They probably did something to deserve it.	Jan 10 17:51
MinceR	yeah	Jan 10 17:51
DaemonFC	I am practically perfect in every way!	Jan 10 17:51
DaemonFC	My shit smells like freshly baked cinnamon rolls.	Jan 10 17:51
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 10 17:51
Sosumi	but that doesn't mean that in another dimension they were killed	Jan 10 17:52
Sosumi	and there, they are dead	Jan 10 17:53
Sosumi	remember, the cat is both alive and dead	Jan 10 17:53
MinceR	the many-worlds interpretation is way too complex for someone who deeply believes in an abrahamic religion to understand :>	Jan 10 17:53
Sosumi	but I believe in QUANTUM IMMORTALITY!!!	Jan 10 17:54
Sosumi	:P	Jan 10 17:54
MinceR	it would also conflict with their belief that they're so damn special	Jan 10 17:54
MinceR	(well, they're special, just not in the way they think)	Jan 10 17:54
MinceR	Sosumi: but do you believe in Quantum Success?	Jan 10 17:54
Sosumi	in which everytime I were to die, an alternative timeline would generate in which I'm dead	Jan 10 17:55
Sosumi	and I would still be alive in here	Jan 10 17:55
DaemonFC	MinceR, Consciousness is an emergent property. It just hasn't emerged fully in those people.	Jan 10 17:56
Sosumi	I was just, kind of trolling	Jan 10 17:56
Sosumi	but	Jan 10 17:56
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-wAaBoW408	Jan 10 17:56
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Night Springs: A Quantum Suicide - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtp9 ]	Jan 10 17:56
Sosumi	from the game alan wake	Jan 10 17:56
Sosumi	the game itself was kind of okeish	Jan 10 17:58
Sosumi	but the night springs episodes were kind of good	Jan 10 17:58
Sosumi	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdM7Qk59c08	Jan 10 18:04
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Night Springs - Never-before-seen Episode "The Doomed Samaritan" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtqf ]	Jan 10 18:04
Sosumi	another favourite of mine	Jan 10 18:04
DaemonFC	I'm not sure how I got on your mailing list.	Jan 10 18:10
DaemonFC	I'm not a Republican, and I prefer not to get spammed by the swine that presume to rule us.	Jan 10 18:10
DaemonFC	Please remove me from your mailing list immediately.	Jan 10 18:10
DaemonFC	Thank you,	Jan 10 18:10
Sosumi	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCB1ac4jIrE#t=66	Jan 10 18:10
TechrightsBot-tr	www.youtube.com \| Xbox One (Sign Out Trolling) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gdtr3 ]	Jan 10 18:10
DaemonFC	I sent that to the Indiana House Republican webmaster.	Jan 10 18:10
Sosumi	when you have an always listening mic, that is what happens	Jan 10 18:12
DaemonFC	"You need flash player"	Jan 10 18:12
Sosumi	meh	Jan 10 18:13
Sosumi	trashplayer	Jan 10 18:13
DaemonFC	It was actually nice outside today compared to earlier this week.	Jan 10 18:18
DaemonFC	The temperature came up 55 degrees and ended up at 38.	Jan 10 18:18
DaemonFC	Tropical heat wave compared to the polar vortex.	Jan 10 18:18
Sosumi	well, it is good that you didn't end up buried under the snow	Jan 10 18:22
Sosumi	like it tends to happen in countries like ukraine	Jan 10 18:22
Sosumi	and so on	Jan 10 18:22
Sosumi	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17036988	Jan 10 18:23
TechrightsBot-tr	www.bbc.co.uk \| BBC News - Man digs through snow to find house in Romania [ http://ur1.ca/86prf ]	Jan 10 18:23
Sosumi	also happens to smaller homes in the "serra da estrela" area	Jan 10 18:24
Sosumi	but this year has been relatively ok	Jan 10 18:24
Sosumi	not that much rain compared to last year	Jan 10 18:25
Sosumi	last year there were in days in which you woke up downpouring and went to bed still downpouring	Jan 10 18:26
Sosumi	and at one time it went just like that through an entire week	Jan 10 18:27
Sosumi	the night springs videos work without flash	Jan 10 18:42
Sosumi	the xbox one doesn't	Jan 10 18:42
Sosumi	just saw	Jan 10 18:42
Sosumi	should have looked before posting :(	Jan 10 18:42
Sosumi	http://rt.com/politics/russia-gay-crime-referendum-401/	Jan 10 18:43
Sosumi	lol	Jan 10 18:43
TechrightsBot-tr	rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gdtux ]	Jan 10 18:43
Sosumi	"Top Russian cleric seeks nationwide referendum on criminalizing male homosexuality"	Jan 10 18:43
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Sosumi	tell top russian cleric to re-allocate to the KSA	Jan 10 18:44
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 19:20
DaemonFC	Very few children have real potential. I know that will make a lot of parents angry, but it's true. What happens in most cases is that it's just another person that has to fight three other people for the same job that doesn't pay the bills. Then they mess up and have "little blessings" of their own.	Jan 10 19:20
DaemonFC	DCSports says:	Jan 10 19:23
DaemonFC	It's pretty clear the pro-abortion advocates are the ones seeking to make a political issue of this, and are the ones coming up with sick ideas. That's especially amazing, considering it's not an abortion issue.	Jan 10 19:23
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 19:23
DaemonFC	I'm not the one that came up with the sick, unnatural idea to play god and keep a dead woman on life support for several months to incubate a damaged fetus.	Jan 10 19:23
DaemonFC	That was the state of Texas and the "pro-life" cult.	Jan 10 19:23
DaemonFC	And they say I'm the one that is defiling nature... Got news for you. Homosexuality happens in all kinds of animals besides humans. Nowhere in nature does a corpse incubate a fetus for several months and then give birth.	Jan 10 19:23
DaemonFC	In reply to an earlier post on Jan 10, 2014 4:22:13 PM PST	Jan 10 19:26
DaemonFC	NeoPaganBaby says:	Jan 10 19:26
DaemonFC	Yes, it's more of a Frankenstein issue.	Jan 10 19:26
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 19:26
DaemonFC	The only thing that's missing from this pro-life moment are the jumper cables and the lightning bolts.	Jan 10 19:26
DaemonFC	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Zimbabwe_fourth_dollar_-_%24500_Obverse_%282009%29.jpg	Jan 10 19:40
DaemonFC	By the time they ceased to pass as currency, they were more valuable as toilet paper.	Jan 10 19:40
DaemonFC	"In the Guardian, on 18 July 2008, a report on Zimbabwe's inflation, said that an egg costs Z$50 billion (GBP 0.17, USD 0.32)"	Jan 10 19:44
DaemonFC	LOL	Jan 10 19:44
DaemonFC	MinceR, Now I feel bad. I left the eggs in the back of the refrigerator and four of them burst.	Jan 10 19:45
DaemonFC	I destroyed $200 billion worth of eggs.	Jan 10 19:45
DaemonFC	(Zimbabwe Dollars)	Jan 10 19:46
MinceR	:>	Jan 10 19:46
DaemonFC	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Zimbabwe_Hyperinflation_2008_notes.jpg	Jan 10 19:47
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incomes_policies	Jan 10 20:06
TechrightsBot-tr	en.wikipedia.org \| Incomes policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gdu9c ]	Jan 10 20:06
DaemonFC	Governments seem to think that they can control wages and prices.	Jan 10 20:06
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DaemonFC	All they can really do is run people out of business when they attempt to control prices.	Jan 10 20:06
DaemonFC	If they pass a law that says tomatoes are 5 cents a pound and it costs you $1 a pound to stock them, and they do shit like that with your whole store, you're not going to be in business for very long.	Jan 10 20:07
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MinceR	gn	Jan 10 20:56
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sebsebseb	qu1j0t3: you moved to au?	Jan 10 21:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Full-featured Android smartwatches debut at CES	Jan 10 21:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kali Linux 1.0.6 Released with LUKS	Jan 10 21:12
TweetTuxMachines	Self-Destruction Feature http://t.co/M7TArsdeMv	Jan 10 21:12
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Full-featured Android smartwatches debut at CES \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 21:12
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DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 21:52
DaemonFC	If everybody has a right to life, then why does everyone die?	Jan 10 21:52
DaemonFC	I know that the declaration of independence says everyone has a right to life, but the people that wrote that are all dead, so I guess they were wrong.	Jan 10 21:52
qu1j0t3	hrhr	Jan 10 21:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Announcing Apache CloudStack 4.2.1	Jan 10 21:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3IB498YGCA	Jan 10 21:57
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TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Announcing Apache CloudStack 4.2.1 \| Tux Machines	Jan 10 21:57
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 22:30
DaemonFC	I paid off the last of my debt a few years ago. I've been careful not to make any more. It's easier when you're actually being paid.	Jan 10 22:30
DaemonFC	Pro tip: Don't try making money at Walmart. It pays dick. You'll probably starve.	Jan 10 22:30
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 22:36
DaemonFC	Oh, there's this program you can use on your phone when you become root. It can disable system processes. You just click to stop the "Pull ads" process, and nothing can download advertisements anymore. It's ****ing awesome.	Jan 10 22:36
DaemonFC	Or Adblock Plus can do that too, but you have to be rooted for it to filter your mobile data. Unrooted, it can only filter wifi data. (If you don't want to root your phone, but don't want to see web ads in your browser on mobile, you can install the Adblock Edge Firefox extension...)	Jan 10 22:36
DaemonFC	ZOMG PINK PONIES says:	Jan 10 22:49
DaemonFC	Speaking of buying software licenses..... Specifically, how dumb it usually is to do that....	Jan 10 22:49
DaemonFC	When Sun Microsystems decided that they needed an office suite for every employee in their company, they figured out what it would cost to purchase one license for the current version of Microsoft Office for every employee, and then they decided to buy an entire company that made an office suite called Star Office because it was cheaper to buy an entire company than to do business with Microsoft.	Jan 10 22:49
DaemonFC	They eventually made it free (as in Freedom) and there's this thing called LibreOffice now. You might have heard of it. It's quite good. :)	Jan 10 22:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox OS: The Return of Microsoft’s Netscape	Jan 11 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	Fears http://t.co/iGpu7DgXXD	Jan 11 04:25
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iophk	http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/01/10/lawmakers-to-holder-inconsistencies-in-reports-of-swartz-prosecution-require-serious-responses/	Jan 11 05:24
iophk	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/eric-holder-aaron-swartz_n_4576570.html	Jan 11 05:24
TechrightsBot-tr	pjmedia.com \| The PJ Tatler » Lawmakers to Holder: ‘Inconsistencies’ in Reports of Swartz Prosecution ‘Require Serious Responses’ [ http://ur1.ca/gdx9v ]	Jan 11 05:24
TechrightsBot-tr	www.huffingtonpost.com \| Eric Holder Criticized On Anniversary Of Aaron Swartz Death [ http://ur1.ca/gdx9w ]	Jan 11 05:24
iophk	http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/01/09/prosecutors-used-this-cybercrime-law-against-aaron-swartz-now-a-senator-wants-to-strengthen-it/	Jan 11 05:28
TechrightsBot-tr	www.washingtonpost.com \| Prosecutors used this cybercrime law against Aaron Swartz. Now a senator wants to strengthen it. [ http://ur1.ca/gdxak ]	Jan 11 05:28
iophk	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/lawrence-lessig-aaron-swa_n_4577917.html	Jan 11 05:30
iophk	http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/01/why-were-marching-across-new-hampshire-to-honor-aaron-swartz/282962/	Jan 11 05:30
TechrightsBot-tr	www.huffingtonpost.com \| Lawrence Lessig Walking Across New Hampshire In Memory Of Aaron Swartz [ http://ur1.ca/gdxat ]	Jan 11 05:30
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iophk	a lot of articles slamming Snowden of late	Jan 11 08:44
iophk	http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/world/europe/eu-panel-invites-snowden.html	Jan 11 08:44
iophk	http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/opinion/op_ed/2014/01/snowden_s_leaks_betray_freedom_democracy	Jan 11 08:44
iophk	http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304347904579310813434692676	Jan 11 08:44
TechrightsBot-tr	myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gdy84 ]	Jan 11 08:45
TechrightsBot-tr	bostonherald.com \| Snowden’s leaks betray freedom, democracy \| Boston Herald [ http://ur1.ca/gdy85 ]	Jan 11 08:45
TechrightsBot-tr	online.wsj.com \| Snowden's Damage - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gdy86 ]	Jan 11 08:45
iophk	www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/01/09/261115874/the-fbis-comey-on-snowden-confused-by-hero-talk	Jan 11 08:46
iophk	a little more positive one	Jan 11 08:57
iophk	http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2014/01/07/jesse-the-mind-ventura-snowden-a-patriot-hero/	Jan 11 08:57
TechrightsBot-tr	www.forbes.com \| Jesse 'The Mind' Ventura: Snowden A Patriot, Hero - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gdycu ]	Jan 11 08:57
MinceR	geekings	Jan 11 09:03
iophk	http://www.drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/open-standards-in-computing-wolves-in-sh/240164892	Jan 11 09:05
TechrightsBot-tr	www.drdobbs.com \| Open Standards in Computing: Wolves in Sheep's Clothing \| Dr Dobb's [ http://ur1.ca/gdyeh ]	Jan 11 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Support Is Priority Over Streaming For	Jan 11 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	Steam Machines http://t.co/C1218nAVia	Jan 11 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdykh	Jan 11 09:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Support Is Priority Over Streaming For Steam Machines \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bitcoin is the Linux of payments. And its	Jan 11 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	killer apps will be for US dollars	Jan 11 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GJ6KtfFFte	Jan 11 09:36
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Bitcoin is the Linux of payments. And its killer apps will be for US dollars \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/gdyki	Jan 11 09:36
iophk	http://www.ibtimes.com/att-says-sponsored-data-doesnt-violate-net-neutrality-internet-advocates-argue-mobile-practices-are	Jan 11 09:45
TechrightsBot-tr	www.ibtimes.com \| AT&T Says Sponsored Data Doesn't Violate Net Neutrality: Internet Advocates Argue Mobile Practices Are Unfair [ http://ur1.ca/gdymq ]	Jan 11 09:45
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/01/trewgrip-handheld-keyboard-almost-a-solution-for-thumb-typing/	Jan 11 10:04
TechrightsBot-tr	arstechnica.com \| TrewGrip handheld keyboard almost a solution for thumb-typing \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gdyqd ]	Jan 11 10:04
Sosumi	it even allows you to transform into a power ranger	Jan 11 10:04
Sosumi	and call megazord	Jan 11 10:04
Sosumi	but that'd be great for solving the problem of actual typing on tablets	Jan 11 10:05
Sosumi	specially if the said tablet runs a full desktop OS	Jan 11 10:06
Sosumi	and you just don't want a virtual kb cluttering everything	Jan 11 10:07
Sosumi	looks like driving wheel too	Jan 11 10:07
Sosumi	probably for megazord	Jan 11 10:08
MinceR	:>	Jan 11 10:21
MinceR	http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/20/nsa-internet-security-rsa-secret-10m-encryption	Jan 11 10:48
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theguardian.com \| $10m NSA contract with security firm RSA led to encryption 'back door' \| World news \| theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/g8d0y ]	Jan 11 10:48
sebsebseb	iophk: FOSDEM looks like it's going to be really awesome	Jan 11 11:22
sebsebseb	good job I booked the hotel yesterday, they only had two singles left	Jan 11 11:22
iophk	great	Jan 11 11:22
iophk	you're all set now	Jan 11 11:22
sebsebseb	yep	Jan 11 11:22
iophk	reserve a keg?	Jan 11 11:22
sebsebseb	a what?	Jan 11 11:23
iophk	put a deposit on a keg for the party	Jan 11 11:23
sebsebseb	hmm	Jan 11 11:23
sebsebseb	?	Jan 11 11:23
iophk	50 liters or so	Jan 11 11:24
iophk	there are a lot of tracks, how do you pick the interesting talks?	Jan 11 11:28
sebsebseb	iophk: easy enough	Jan 11 11:35
sebsebseb	I base it on how technical something i	Jan 11 11:35
sebsebseb	s	Jan 11 11:35
sebsebseb	usaully	Jan 11 11:35
sebsebseb	iophk: a lot of talks are a bit to technical for me really so make it eaier	Jan 11 11:35
iophk	have you selected anything as must-see?	Jan 11 11:35
sebsebseb	when I looked last I was looking at legal issues dev room	Jan 11 11:35
sebsebseb	and thinking interesting	Jan 11 11:36
iophk	https://fosdem.org/2014/schedule/track/legal_and_policy_issues/	Jan 11 11:36
TechrightsBot-tr	fosdem.org \| FOSDEM 2014 - Legal and policy issues devroom [ http://ur1.ca/gdz50 ]	Jan 11 11:36
iophk	I guess they'll have the video online sometime soon after the event.	Jan 11 11:40
sebsebseb	only for some things	Jan 11 11:42
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iophk	http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/09/nintendo-picks-up-patent-portfolio-from-defunct-exergaming-company-ia-labs/	Jan 11 14:31
TechrightsBot-tr	venturebeat.com \| Nintendo picks up patent portfolio from defunct 'exergaming' company IA Labs \| GamesBeat \| Games \| by Jeff Grubb [ http://ur1.ca/ge0zu ]	Jan 11 14:31
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Sosumi	so now nintendo can finally turn the WII U into the ultimate game gear	Jan 11 15:00
Sosumi	or the ultimate vectrex	Jan 11 15:01
Sosumi	WII U the only console that can be portable but needs AC in order to work	Jan 11 15:02
Sosumi	yet it can still run out of batteries	Jan 11 15:02
Sosumi	I hope it accepts overlays too	Jan 11 15:05
Sosumi	it couldn't be the ultimate vectrex without that	Jan 11 15:05
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3506347	Jan 11 15:05
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Make a LiveUSB stick with #windows and start using #Linux http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/make-liveusb-stick-windows-start-using-linux/19157 vanish from the #NSA sight and dodge back doors	Jan 11 15:05
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.muktware.com \| Make a LiveUSB stick with windows and start using Linux \| Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/ge1hr ]	Jan 11 15:05
roy_	"	Jan 11 15:05
Sosumi	or it would end up in, "vectrex does what nintendon't"	Jan 11 15:05
roy_	I just did this: sudo dd if=linuxmint-16-cinnamon-dvd-64bit.iso of=/dev/sdb , where /dev/sdb was a blank 8GB SD card, inserted but unmounted...	Jan 11 15:05
roy_	It worked once I stopped trying to boot the target system off another SD card full of old pictures on a FAT32 filesystem. Those SD cards are little, and it's hard to tell them apart :-)	Jan 11 15:05
roy_	"	Jan 11 15:05
roy_	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3506258	Jan 11 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Meet Korora 20 – It's like Fedora, but Better http://news.softpedia.com/news/Meet-Korora-20-It-s-Like-Fedora-But-Better-415481.shtml #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux #korora	Jan 11 15:06
TechrightsBot-tr	-> news.softpedia.com \| Meet Korora 20 – It's like Fedora, but Better [ http://ur1.ca/ge1hz ]	Jan 11 15:06
roy_	"Fusion did this really well a few years back. I tried Korora in the summer, it seemed okay, but like all of this "with tweaks" distros, they better be Mint-level of support, because they break very quickly, especially the way Fedora releases broken shit."	Jan 11 15:06
iophk	http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/756662-linux-video-of-the-week-matthew-garrett-argues-for-better-security-in-2014	Jan 11 15:26
TechrightsBot-tr	www.linux.com \| Linux Video of the Week: Matthew Garrett Argues for Better Security in 2014 \| Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/ge1s3 ]	Jan 11 15:26
iophk	"He defended verified boot schemes as one method for protecting the software stack at its root."	Jan 11 15:26
iophk	"UEFI Secure Boot “is one of the rare cases where I'm going to say Microsoft did the right thing for user freedom,” he said"	Jan 11 15:27
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roy_	iophk: thanks for the links	Jan 11 15:30
roy_	i have posted all of them in some social networks	Jan 11 15:30
roy_	very good picks	Jan 11 15:30
iophk	thanks	Jan 11 15:30
roy_	and I posted about the healthcare.gov news, see FP of TR	Jan 11 15:30
iophk	I've been following the feed only lately	Jan 11 15:31
roy_	saves lots of legwork and research, the items most relevant to us just a click away	Jan 11 15:31
roy_	[20:27] <iophk> "UEFI Secure Boot “is one of the rare cases where I'm going to say Microsoft did the right thing for user freedom,” he said"	Jan 11 15:31
roy_	Stanage concept of freedom	Jan 11 15:32
roy_	Ballmer is choking on a baby reading it	Jan 11 15:32
iophk	yes, it seemslike double talk	Jan 11 15:32
roy_	He makes anti-Linux mechanism and some dude who writes code for Linux says ballmer champions "freedom"	Jan 11 15:32
roy_	Not just "choice"..	Jan 11 15:32
roy_	Freedom, the f word	Jan 11 15:32
roy_	While wearing an RMS-lookalike shift	Jan 11 15:32
roy_	*shirt	Jan 11 15:33
roy_	FSF hates UEFI	Jan 11 15:33
roy_	See the other link from Aussie news	Jan 11 15:33
roy_	His talk turned into MS marketing	Jan 11 15:33
roy_	They love this guy, the Microsoft boosters in sites like ZDnet use him to call UEFI opposers "fanatics" or something	Jan 11 15:33
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schestowitz	http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140107/18092725793/dianne-feinstein-admits-that-her-nsa-reform-bill-is-about-protecting-existing-surveillance-programs.shtml	Jan 11 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.techdirt.com \| Dianne Feinstein Admits That Her 'NSA Reform' Bill Is About Protecting Existing Surveillance Programs \| Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/ge1vv ]	Jan 11 15:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507651	Jan 11 15:35
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #fbi shows which side it's on, and it's not the people's, it's the oligarchs' http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/01/09/261115874/the-fbis-comey-on-snowden-confused-by-hero-talk	Jan 11 15:36
schestowitz	"hmm...at least Putin's FSB had the balls to lock up the oligarchs when they plundered the state. If this information is correct about the FBI, then, well, they aren't doing their job right !"	Jan 11 15:36
TechrightsBot-tr	-> www.npr.org \| FBI Director 'Confused' By Reports Calling Snowden A Hero : The Two-Way : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/ge1wf ]	Jan 11 15:36
iophk	Speaking of Putin / Russia, there has been no follow up in the news about the latest M$ bribery scandal in Russia. There was some in the summer but no action since.	Jan 11 15:37
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Sosumi	<iophk> "UEFI Secure Boot “is one of the rare cases where I'm going to say Microsoft did the right thing for user freedom,” he said"	Jan 11 15:42
Sosumi	by taking, unnecessary freedom, you maintain freedom	Jan 11 15:42
Sosumi	that 1984 dialectic	Jan 11 15:43
Sosumi	*is	Jan 11 15:43
iophk	newspeak	Jan 11 15:43
MinceR	o_O	Jan 11 15:43
iophk	War Is Peace, Freedom Is Slavery, Ignorance Is Strength, etc	Jan 11 15:44
MinceR	the wrong thing is the right thing	Jan 11 15:44
MinceR	(apparently)	Jan 11 15:44
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Sosumi	can I say, in order to have everlasting peace you need perpetual to maintain that peace	Jan 11 15:44
Sosumi	*perpetual war	Jan 11 15:44
Sosumi	orwelian dialectic	Jan 11 15:45
iophk	maybe he is opposed to actual freedom so in his mind M$ really did the right thing by helping take it away.	Jan 11 15:46
Sosumi	aka maintain the status quo	Jan 11 15:46
iophk	http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/11/cicada_3301_2014/	Jan 11 15:47
TechrightsBot-tr	www.theregister.co.uk \| Cicada 3301: The web's most baffling and eerie crypto-puzzle is BACK • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/ge20y ]	Jan 11 15:47
MinceR	:>	Jan 11 15:48
Sosumi	it is like saying, if they don't know any better freedom, they'll not care for the real freedom	Jan 11 15:48
Sosumi	and to make that sure, there's a limitation	Jan 11 15:49
Sosumi	that must be overcome, secure boot	Jan 11 15:49
Sosumi	outside of all this	Jan 11 15:49
Sosumi	I just don't get why I can't sign my own keys	Jan 11 15:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 20 Officially Released for IBM System z	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	64-Bit http://t.co/bKRivYPdI3	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2db	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Huawei Unveils Android-Based Tron Game Console	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7xErGVGLya	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2dc	Jan 11 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 20 Officially Released for IBM System z 64-Bit \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Novena whips up an open source laptop from	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	scratch http://t.co/zle5TOYAJX	Jan 11 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Huawei Unveils Android-Based Tron Game Console \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2dd	Jan 11 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Novena whips up an open source laptop from scratch \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Siduction 2013.2 review http://t.co/tTyFceaF17	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2de	Jan 11 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Siduction 2013.2 review \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open-source competition for Android, iOS	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pDl3s77COg	Jan 11 16:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2df	Jan 11 16:19
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Open-source competition for Android, iOS \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 16:19
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schestowitz	[20:37] <iophk> Speaking of Putin / Russia, there has been no follow up in the news about the latest M$ bribery scandal in Russia. There was some in the summer but no action since.	Jan 11 16:27
schestowitz	Maybe the DOj got bribed again :-)	Jan 11 16:27
schestowitz	[20:46] <iophk> maybe he is opposed to actual freedom so in his mind M$ really did the right thing by helping take it away.	Jan 11 16:28
schestowitz	Maybe Garrett is a neo-'libertarian'	Jan 11 16:28
schestowitz	Give MICROSOFT the freedom, de-regulate	Jan 11 16:28
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Sosumi	de-regulation doesn't work	Jan 11 16:33
Sosumi	in fact it even allows the formation of cartels, price fixing any other kind of dirty trick you can come up to	Jan 11 16:34
MinceR	well, it works for the big bad guys	Jan 11 16:34
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Sosumi	and probably even allowing the corporation to be the actual gov	Jan 11 16:35
Sosumi	wait, that is what is already happening	Jan 11 16:35
Sosumi	so, regulate and regulate it properly	Jan 11 16:35
Sosumi	absolute gluttony must be kept well regulated for the wealth and survival of the nation	Jan 11 16:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3504304	Jan 11 16:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #internet is seriously dying. #surveillance , tiered Web, #w3c promoting #drm and welcoming #mpaa that advocates back doors in all PCs.	Jan 11 16:57
schestowitz	"Naah. Everything can be moved into Tor or I2P type networks if there's enough will. Money is already moving into P2P, so it's only natural progression that communications shall do it too."	Jan 11 16:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507886	Jan 11 16:57
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: For this caturday...<BR>	Jan 11 16:57
schestowitz	"Oy I would not to try and fight this beast in the wild..."	Jan 11 16:57
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3507641	Jan 11 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Portfolio" of photocopies. Wow! "Innovation" http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/09/nintendo-picks-up-patent-portfolio-from-defunct-exergaming-company-ia-labs/	Jan 11 16:58
TechrightsBot-tr	-> venturebeat.com \| Nintendo picks up patent portfolio from defunct 'exergaming' company IA Labs \| GamesBeat \| Games \| by Jeff Grubb [ http://ur1.ca/ge0zu ]	Jan 11 16:58
schestowitz	"Nintendo is increasingly looking like the companies that profit from corruption. Nintendo está cada vez mais parecendo as empresas que lucram com a corrupção."	Jan 11 16:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04.4 Officially Arrives on February 6	Jan 11 17:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FhLRJnVvPW	Jan 11 17:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge2uv	Jan 11 17:02
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 12.04.4 Officially Arrives on February 6 \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 17:02
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DaemonFC	Piers Anthony worked in a little song about Coke in his book Companions of Xanth.	Jan 11 19:36
DaemonFC	"Coca Cola, stinky drink, pour it down the kitchen sink! Smells like vinegar and tastes like ink....."	Jan 11 19:36
DaemonFC	no, wait, I think he called it Choke-a-Cola.	Jan 11 19:36
DaemonFC	Trademark issues I guess.	Jan 11 19:37
MinceR	:D	Jan 11 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android eyewear offers virtual, augmented	Jan 11 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	reality http://t.co/o2MuRa4XAD	Jan 11 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge50i	Jan 11 20:08
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Android eyewear offers virtual, augmented reality \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 20:08
DaemonFC	http://i.imgur.com/20InuRv.png	Jan 11 20:50
DaemonFC	Uhhm, that can't be right.	Jan 11 20:50
MinceR	yup	Jan 11 20:51
DaemonFC	It is?	Jan 11 20:51
MinceR	unless they have a time machine or something	Jan 11 20:51
DaemonFC	oh	Jan 11 20:51
MinceR	i mean, it can't be right	Jan 11 20:51
DaemonFC	I was going to say.	Jan 11 20:51
MinceR	:)	Jan 11 20:51
DaemonFC	Looks like it goes into 5-6 months from now.	Jan 11 20:51
DaemonFC	We're only 11 days into 2014.	Jan 11 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cell security in Apache HBase	Jan 11 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jYrgD7I7Gt	Jan 11 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/ge5iy	Jan 11 20:51
TechrightsBot-tr	www.tuxmachines.org \| Cell security in Apache HBase \| Tux Machines	Jan 11 20:51
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Sosumi	want to hear a joke	Jan 11 21:23
Sosumi	crapple only allows 40 seconds on custom tones for the iphone	Jan 11 21:23
Sosumi	apparently, more would violating copyright	Jan 11 21:24
Sosumi	*be	Jan 11 21:24
MinceR	:)	Jan 11 21:26
MinceR	gn	Jan 11 21:26
Sosumi	yes, but it's not over yet	Jan 11 21:27
Sosumi	I got a friend of wants the theme from "007 the man with the golden gun"	Jan 11 21:27
Sosumi	for his new gold iphone 5s	Jan 11 21:27
Sosumi	and I'm laughing hard because of how much hyped the entire time about having that song as a ringtone	Jan 11 21:28
Sosumi	*he hyped	Jan 11 21:28
*Sosumi is sleepy		Jan 11 21:28
Sosumi	will he return his "precious"	Jan 11 21:29
Sosumi	poor smeagel	Jan 11 21:29
Sosumi	rofl	Jan 11 21:29
MinceR	pathetic	Jan 11 21:29
MinceR	also, it would be a step backwards for bond, who used to have a nokia smartphone	Jan 11 21:30
MinceR	(back when nokia made smartphones)	Jan 11 21:30
Sosumi	actually I remember him using ericson	Jan 11 21:30
Sosumi	yeah, tomorrow never dies to present movies	Jan 11 21:32
Sosumi	were either ericson or sony-ericson	Jan 11 21:32
Sosumi	but ho well, enough with the laugher	Jan 11 21:34
Sosumi	to be I go	Jan 11 21:34
Sosumi	GN	Jan 11 21:34
MinceR	:)	Jan 11 21:34
MinceR	oh, what i thought was a nokia was a sony ericsson, apparently	Jan 11 21:35
MinceR	http://www.stuff.tv/5-best-james-bond-phones/news	Jan 11 21:35
TechrightsBot-tr	www.stuff.tv \| 5 of the best James Bond phones \| Stuff [ http://ur1.ca/ge63g ]	Jan 11 21:35
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