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| Sosumi | aside, | Dec 29 00:05 |
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| Sosumi | gnu octave finally has a GUI | Dec 29 00:05 |
| Sosumi | officially that is | Dec 29 00:13 |
| Sosumi | I remember older projects like qt octave and so on | Dec 29 00:13 |
| DaemonFC | shared Star Trek: Voyager's photo. | Dec 29 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to have to vote for Captain Janeway. In the future, a female starship captain from Indiana fights to get her crew home when they become stranded in the Delta Quadrant, over 70 years from Earth at maximum warp. Sure, it's fiction, but it's inspiring. | Dec 29 00:24 |
| DaemonFC | Bonus: Along the way, she manages to rip the Borg a new one. That alone should get your vote! | Dec 29 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | Despicable Me 2: | Dec 29 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | Little girl (to Gru): "Why are you so fat?" | Dec 29 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | Gru: "Because my house is made of candy. And sometimes, I eat instead of facing my problems." | Dec 29 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | I can relate. Who's up for Taco Bell? | Dec 29 00:43 |
| DaemonFC | Spotify Radio is now free on Android. | Dec 29 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | gives me something to listen to while I'm driving. :) | Dec 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | Last.FM is no longer available in the United States. | Dec 29 02:17 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 29 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME Web tells websites you're using Mac OS. | Dec 29 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Intel Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/538.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/538.1 Epiphany/3.10.2 | Dec 29 03:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: yep poor designed website id would also say Safari user. | Dec 29 03:12 |
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| amarsh04 | http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-29/david-hicks-says-government-knew-he-would-not-get-fair-trial/5177504 | Dec 29 04:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.abc.net.au | Solicitor says documents show government knew former Guantanamo Bay detainee David Hicks would not get fair trial - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) [ http://ur1.ca/g9zlc ] | Dec 29 04:04 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: Really David Hicks trained with a overseas army without permission. Australia by international law could have voided his citisenship | Dec 29 04:12 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: so what is the worry about fair trial he was not infact due anything. | Dec 29 04:12 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_nationality_law#Service_in_the_armed_forces_of_an_enemy_country | Dec 29 05:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Australian nationality law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/g9zxv ] | Dec 29 05:27 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: that is a key point techically Australia can if so chooses kick David Hicks out. | Dec 29 05:28 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: allowing Hicks to be punished in Guantanamo Bay was mercy. | Dec 29 05:28 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: and Australian cit law is retrospective. | Dec 29 05:30 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459345 | Dec 29 09:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Facebook asked me to add my phone number or credit card for verification. Gave them the finger and deleted my account." -Theatre X | Dec 29 09:32 |
| schestowitz | "I gave them both fingers months ago! Google and mocrosoft too!" | Dec 29 09:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459340 | Dec 29 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: David Blunkett calls for satirical TV shows such as Mock the Week to be reclassified as 'current affairs' http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/we-need-to-watch-that-david-blunkett-calls-for-satirical-tv-shows-such-as-mock-the-week-to-be-reclassified-as-current-affairs-9027372.html censor? | Dec 29 09:59 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, censorship. The people doing satire do better research than most current affairs shows. This guy is barking up the wrong tree, but it's intentional. You won't be able to find out anymore because the UK is censoring your internet too." | Dec 29 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.independent.co.uk | 'We need to watch that': David Blunkett calls for satirical TV shows such as Mock the Week to be reclassified as 'current affairs' - News - TV & Radio - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/ga0uz ] | Dec 29 09:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459287 | Dec 29 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Worst spokesperson ever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Psaki I hope she stays, she makes her employer look stupid beyond belief | Dec 29 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> en.wikipedia.org | Jen Psaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ga0v1 ] | Dec 29 09:59 |
| schestowitz | "Have I missed something? She looks good on paper, good schools and an amazingly rapid rise through responsible positions." | Dec 29 09:59 |
| schestowitz | She is reading scripts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFIVVmXE-g my wife and I had a field day watch it yesterday | Dec 29 09:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | 'US citizen has no right to free speech?' State Dept spokesperson grilled over Snowden - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ga0v5 ] | Dec 29 10:00 |
| schestowitz | *watching | Dec 29 10:00 |
| schestowitz | "Tyrants always reward a few flunkies. Discontent grows as they push their luck by beggaring the rest of us." | Dec 29 10:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459295 | Dec 29 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Academics Who Defend Wall St. Reap Reward http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/28/business/academics-who-defend-wall-st-reap-reward.html?ref=business implicit purchasing of consent. #occupyws | Dec 29 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/ga0up ] | Dec 29 10:01 |
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| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> @glynmoody "the only people who retain any hope of secure | Dec 29 11:09 |
| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> communications are geeks who understand | Dec 29 11:09 |
| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> #cryptography and use #opensource software." - | Dec 29 11:09 |
| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> ibid. | Dec 29 11:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/417255775732379648 | Dec 29 11:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz I was thinking hardware (routers, modems, and the like) | Dec 29 11:31 |
| schestowitz | There are ways of verification. My jobs involves this. It's a chain of trust. | Dec 29 11:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3460170 | Dec 29 16:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does anyone really believe that the #cia wouldn't have 'disappeared' (killed) #snowden if CIA knew what he was up up? | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | The thing is the actions always override what is being said | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | That actions so far ......... well the NSA is still working ...... the security is being tightened up ........ but for who's benefits. | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | How do you get the people to support a massive lock down on the internet where it is so secure - even the hackers cannot get back into it ...... | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Then you change the way it is run and start charging for everything - using the security to lock people out ........... | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | We will see ........ but Snowden so far seems like the classic film style double agent ....... you give them so much that is all interesting and obvious ......... but the things the people really want to know about ........... how to keep them in suspense ...... | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | We are working on some new information and when its all sorted out we will feed you it ........... | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Thing with the whistleblowers of the past ........ | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | The information is given up front to make sure everyone is aware of what is going on ............ | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | With Snowden ...... its like leading a donkey with a carrot ........ | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Just depends where we are heading with all of this ....... | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Thinking of the case with Shane Todd ....... if the NSA were so good they would know everything about him and his last calls on his mobile and his last emails on his computer. | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Yet ............ dead end ........... and the information seems so much like it should be obvious what happened to him. | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | and if it can happen to Shane Todd ........ then as you say why not with Snowden ......... | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Yet he gets full Media attention where others in the past get what ....... hidden away ..... and distorted stories ........ even a film about Assange to make him out to be something else. | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Manning is the only one ....... they did not kill him ...... well maybe psychologically ......... | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | He is now a girl locked up for 35 years ....... whether he really wants to be called a girl or not - who knows - but they destroyed him ......... in another way. | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Aaron Schwartz .... mmm | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Seems its bad business nowadays to be more intelligent than the government ...... this decade will be the time in History where they went after the clever people in society that knew how to use computing and data from it to good effect. | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Who else has left the USA ..... due to pressure ...... | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Who fears for their life ..... maybe Snowden does - but his safeguard was that he already put the information out somewhere ( that is what they maybe need before they do anything rash ) if it is all for real .......... | Dec 29 16:24 |
| schestowitz | Still have doubts on this one ....... but I do support whatever it is he is doing .......... I think ........ ? | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | If the NSA was for the good of the people they would have let out all they have on Shane Todd | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Its things like that - that make you wonder what they do know. | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | "Snowden is a hired man. He's telling us what they want us to know." | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | "Another angle is despite outrage, they handed him the info in order to sneak in even more awful secret legislation to hide their "sensitive" operations. The public outrage is the opposite of the internal government outrage: they can use this leak from a low level employee to lock their real dirty laundry even deeper and tighter." | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | The things I am seeing are to do with other government officials ..... basically gets them all to tighten up their own security. ( not such a bad thing ) | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Normal peoples own perceptions ......... doubt anything has really changed ... | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Has one Law been passed to protect people from UN-warrented snooping ? | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Law+been+passed+to+protect+people+from+UN-warrented+snooping&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&gws_rd=cr& | Dec 29 16:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.co.uk | Law been passed to protect people from UN-warrented snooping - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/ga256 ] | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Yet nothing appears for protecting the people ......... | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Lets see what laws are being passed to detain the people ......... | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Law+been+passed+to+protect+people+from+UN-warrented+snooping&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&gws_rd=cr&ei=eRzAUoyOBovY0QW_4YDwDA#channel=fs&gl=uk&q=law+been+passed+to+detain+us+citizens | Dec 29 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.co.uk | Law been passed to protect people from UN-warrented snooping - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/ga258 ] | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Oh look loads of action there ....... | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Snowden is doing huge damage to many in Power, so to suggest he serves those in Power makes no sense at all. Currently, the Russian and Chinese are gaining from it, maybe central Europe also | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459929 | Dec 29 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## **Guy Debord** | Dec 29 16:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by ramil_rodaje@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_27885bfd0d6c0507b780.png | Dec 29 16:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by ramil_rodaje@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_27885bfd0d6c0507b780.png | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | "The irony is arresting!" | Dec 29 16:27 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 29 16:29 |
| MinceR | j0 | Dec 29 16:29 |
| sebsebseb | 2014 the year of MinceR | Dec 29 16:29 |
| MinceR | isn't that a bit early to announce? | Dec 29 16:30 |
| sebsebseb | maybe | Dec 29 16:30 |
| iophk | http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/12/29/toronto_police_officer_strips_naked_hundreds_of_people.html | Dec 29 16:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.thestar.com | Toronto police officer strips naked “hundreds” of people | Toronto Star [ http://ur1.ca/ga26z ] | Dec 29 16:33 |
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| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/why-the-iron-maiden-playing-for-pirates-error-is-such-a-disappointment-131229/ | Dec 29 17:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Why the Iron Maiden ‘Playing for Pirates’ Error is Such a Disappointment | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/ga2gq ] | Dec 29 17:37 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3221#comic | Dec 29 17:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal [ http://ur1.ca/ga2j0 ] | Dec 29 17:55 |
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| DaemonFC | about a minute ago · Edited | Dec 29 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | Some hackers decided to try to piece together a PC equivalent to Apple's new $10,000 Mac Pro, and ended up with a bill of about $11,500. There were a few problems that I see with this. | Dec 29 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | 1. They did not use the lowest-price sources for the PC hardware that they bought. | Dec 29 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | 2. They threw in a license for an unnecessary copy of Windows 8.1 Professional, which added $200. They could have used GNU/Linux for free. | Dec 29 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | 3. Although the graphics cards are the same AMD FirePro model numbers, the one in the Mac Pro is not nearly as fast as the PC version. Apple had to slow down the clock speeds of the graphics processing core, and the memory, in order to cram it into that case without a big heatsink or fan. So, the OEM PC part is much, much, better. | Dec 29 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | 4. Xeon processors are a waste of money, and so is ECC RAM. The only difference between a Xeon processor and its Core i7 brethren is that Xeon supports ECC RAM and Core i7 doesn't. They could have knocked off several hundred more dollars from the PC if they used an i7 and non-ECC RAM. | Dec 29 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | Apple fans are under the misguided impression that Xeons are "magical performance unicorns", and they are not. | Dec 29 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | There's probably more, but I think you could build a system that kicks the $10,000 Mac Pro in the balls for $8,500 or less. | Dec 29 19:41 |
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| DaemonFC | edited: | Dec 29 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | I would use an ASUS or XFX model of FirePro card, myself, if I could afford it. | Dec 29 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | The truth is that the FirePro is not that much better than a fast Radeon HD, but the FirePro is more expensive. So, they could save hundreds buying a Radeon HD instead. The biggest difference between FirePro and Radeon HD is that the proprietary driver is "certified" to run "professional" software, like AutoCAD. The RadeonHD will do it too, but AMD doesn't specifically support that use case. | Dec 29 19:43 |
| Sosumi | no point in using Xeon if you don't use two or more of them | Dec 29 19:51 |
| Sosumi | also, the ati gpus on the trashcan are underclock | Dec 29 19:52 |
| Sosumi | they run at 600 mhz with a boost to 800 MHz when it's possible | Dec 29 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | 3 minutes ago · Edited | Dec 29 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Another problem with Apple is that they write their own graphics drivers for Mac OS X. They don't use drivers from Nvidia or AMD. Apple's graphics drivers have been proven to be slower and less OpenGL compliant than the vendor drivers on Windows or GNU/Linux, time after time. | Dec 29 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | To tell you what kind of awful drivers come from Apple, Valve tried to port Steam to Mac OS X in 2006, and said that they couldn't, because Apple's OpenGL implementation did not support Occlusion Query. An OpenGL driver that doesn't have Occlusion Query is like a car that is missing a transmission. I mean, it's some pretty basic functionality that almost every actual OpenGL program is going to require. They do now. In fact, Apple claims that | Dec 29 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | they support OpenGL 4.0. | Dec 29 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, the driver can just lie. It doesn't mean that they implemented everything that the standard calls for, or that they implemented it correctly. And, the current standard is OpenGL 4.4. | Dec 29 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | When you lie to a program, it will start and run, and work until the time comes to use a feature that you claim to have, and don't, and then the program will crash. | Dec 29 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Or, if you've implemented it wrong, it could just behave in some unexpected way. | Dec 29 19:53 |
| Sosumi | also, there's no distintion between "pro" and "normal" gpu drivers on osx | Dec 29 19:54 |
| Sosumi | and at most "pro" cards only feature more vram | Dec 29 19:54 |
| Sosumi | nothing more | Dec 29 19:54 |
| Sosumi | also, the cards on the trashcan don't have ecc | Dec 29 19:54 |
| Sosumi | even through the ecc feature on the normal firepro cards is virtualized through the memory controller | Dec 29 19:55 |
| Sosumi | that feature is not present on the trashcan cards | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Even Nvidia and AMD get things wrong sometimes, but, unlike Apple, they respond to developers by fixing the bugs and getting a new graphics driver update out. Sometimes, it takes them less than a week to patch their driver. | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | With Apple, you have to wait months, if they ever fix it at all. | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, That's not really the case. | Dec 29 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen consumer level graphics hardware with 2-3 GB of fast video RAM. | Dec 29 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | and I haven't even looked in a while | Dec 29 19:56 |
| Sosumi | but those are not reference designs | Dec 29 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | most programs run fine with 1 GB | Dec 29 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | or less | Dec 29 19:56 |
| Sosumi | crapple only used reference designs on their cards | Dec 29 19:57 |
| Sosumi | with the option of a reference workstation grade card, that used the same driver of the gaming grade card, but with the benefit of more vram | Dec 29 19:58 |
| Sosumi | also the point of having more ram on the card is for cuda and opencl offloading | Dec 29 19:58 |
| Sosumi | for just running programs and no gaming, even 128MB would be anough | Dec 29 19:59 |
| Sosumi | *enough | Dec 29 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | Well, to be honest, I think we've long since passed the point where computers are "fast enough" for everything a typical user does. | Dec 29 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that the horrible PC sales are entirely the fault of Windows 8. | Dec 29 20:00 |
| Sosumi | it has entered into the law of diminished returns | Dec 29 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | It's one of the larger reasons, but people are on a tight budget and realizing that what they have is working well. | Dec 29 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | So, why spend more money to replace things that work? | Dec 29 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I'm still very pleased with my Phenom II X4. | Dec 29 20:01 |
| Sosumi | again, the law of diminished returns for what the users are doing | Dec 29 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | Right, so it's not the fastest processor out there, but it's reasonably fast, and it can offload additional threads between four cores. | Dec 29 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. You can play an MP3 file on a 486. | Dec 29 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of things you can get done on some shockingly old hardware. | Dec 29 20:03 |
| Sosumi | the computer as a normal box that sits under your desk is dead for the normal user | Dec 29 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | These tablets and phones don't have the specs of a PC, so software developers are starting to go back and look for ways to trim down their resource requirements again. | Dec 29 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | That gives your PC a second wind. | Dec 29 20:04 |
| Sosumi | and despite everything, more and more are reliquishing their data into cloud services | Dec 29 20:04 |
| Sosumi | I've seen ppl saying that the xbox one with a keyboard connected was enough | Dec 29 20:04 |
| Sosumi | as they could do everything through the built in browser | Dec 29 20:05 |
| Sosumi | office in the cloud, google services, etc | Dec 29 20:05 |
| Sosumi | you know the drill | Dec 29 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | I would use xfce, but, you know how that stuff goes. | Dec 29 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | They're a small project in a big world. There are certain things that don't integrate well, or are missing. Distributions tend to plug the gaps by including GNOME software. | Dec 29 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | The XBOX One has some major problems. | Dec 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's $100 more expensive than the Playstation 4, and much, much, slower. | Dec 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | The only web browser you can use is Internet Explorer. | Dec 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | etc. | Dec 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | They really should have designed a much more ambitious console. | Dec 29 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | The difference in performance between XBOX 360 and PS3 wasn't huge. | Dec 29 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen some benchmarks that suggest that the PS4 could be 50% faster than XBOX One in some cases | Dec 29 20:10 |
| Sosumi | yes, but that's a thing that only matters to ppl like you and me | Dec 29 20:21 |
| Sosumi | the average joe doesn't care | Dec 29 20:21 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/windows-8-x-growth-flatlines-internet-explorer-11-makes-a-splash/ | Dec 29 20:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Windows 8.x growth flatlines, Internet Explorer 11 makes a splash | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ga2zn ] | Dec 29 20:28 |
| Sosumi | IE is king | Dec 29 20:28 |
| Sosumi | I think that says all about the average Joe/Jane | Dec 29 20:28 |
| Sosumi | and again the PC is dead, the future, for the average user, is going to be cloud services integrated with some universal AI for some interactive assistance | Dec 29 20:32 |
| Sosumi | and that's it | Dec 29 20:32 |
| Sosumi | the kind of ppl that run their big boxes'll continue to be the usual niche | Dec 29 20:33 |
| Sosumi | with hardcore gamers, professionals and conscious users | Dec 29 20:33 |
| DaemonFC | It bothers me. | Dec 29 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want a web browser that won't let me block ads, for starters. | Dec 29 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | IE doesn't let you do that. | Dec 29 20:34 |
| MinceR | the PC will be better off with the average user off it | Dec 29 20:34 |
| MinceR | that is, if there will be a PC | Dec 29 20:35 |
| Sosumi | no idea... I haven't used IE since I was on 6th grade back in 2001 or 2002 | Dec 29 20:35 |
| MinceR | uefi is destroying it, turning it into a useless appliance. | Dec 29 20:35 |
| Sosumi | uefi was necessary to address 4TB more | Dec 29 20:35 |
| Sosumi | secure boot was the unecessary part | Dec 29 20:35 |
| Sosumi | it's useless | Dec 29 20:36 |
| MinceR | restricted boot was not necessary to address 4TB or more | Dec 29 20:36 |
| MinceR | and yet it's what they're pushing. | Dec 29 20:36 |
| Sosumi | same for the TPI module | Dec 29 20:36 |
| Sosumi | and the whole trusted computing thing | Dec 29 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | I never really used IE. When I used Windows, I would use it sometimes after a major update, just out of curiosity. | Dec 29 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | Then I'd go back to using Mozilla Application Suite or Opera. | Dec 29 20:38 |
| MinceR | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/27/the-most-kafkaesque-paragraph-from-todays-nsa-ruling/ | Dec 29 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtonpost.com | The most Kafkaesque paragraph from today’s NSA ruling [ http://ur1.ca/ga32n ] | Dec 29 20:51 |
| Sosumi | that was on school computers | Dec 29 20:53 |
| Sosumi | I used netscape on mine at home | Dec 29 20:53 |
| Sosumi | your biggest fear at moment should be the impossibility of disabling secure boot on low end to mid range hardware | Dec 29 20:55 |
| Sosumi | for high end hardware there'll always be that option | Dec 29 20:56 |
| Sosumi | specially on workstation grade stuff | Dec 29 20:56 |
| Sosumi | but that is locking gnu/linux, BSD and other OSs behind a paywall | Dec 29 20:57 |
| Sosumi | while the challenge for the next year is to either do away with secure boot or let the users sign their own keys | Dec 29 21:00 |
| Sosumi | another challenge is to demand computers without the OS, neither with windows nor with redhat (hp, dell) | Dec 29 21:01 |
| Sosumi | also, the module is called TPM and not TPI | Dec 29 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | I'm looking into taking out a few of next month's bills. | Dec 29 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | Give myself a head of steam going into January. :) | Dec 29 21:05 |
| Sosumi | that's easy | Dec 29 21:10 |
| Sosumi | apply for a ton of credit cards in multiple banks | Dec 29 21:10 |
| Sosumi | even foreign ones | Dec 29 21:10 |
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| Sosumi | and then max the withdraw count on them | Dec 29 21:10 |
| Sosumi | after that, run away to some latin american country | Dec 29 21:11 |
| Sosumi | or manilla or russia or hong knog | Dec 29 21:11 |
| Sosumi | *hong kong | Dec 29 21:11 |
| Sosumi | some country with no extradition to the US should be ok | Dec 29 21:12 |
| Sosumi | the city of london is also okeish for financial criminals, but on this case you'll actually be pulling a hat trick on the banksters | Dec 29 21:13 |
| Sosumi | so avoid it | Dec 29 21:13 |
| Sosumi | china also has those small one cabin hotels, | Dec 29 21:14 |
| Sosumi | if you're on the run with no luggage other than some clothes and a laptop | Dec 29 21:14 |
| MinceR | then why pay the bills at all? | Dec 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | those are excellent | Dec 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | that was the point | Dec 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | not paying them | Dec 29 21:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | aaron swartz should have done that | Dec 29 21:17 |
| Sosumi | instead of staying to become a martyr | Dec 29 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | I make a payment on my credit card every day. | Dec 29 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | I try to keep the balance as low as possible. | Dec 29 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | That way I never pay interest, and they're paying me about $12 a month to use the card. | Dec 29 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's not much, but $144 a year isn't nothing. :) | Dec 29 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's easy money. You don't have to do anything for it other than use their card instead of the debit card. | Dec 29 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | So, basically, my credit card rewards are enough to pay my health insurance deductible for the year. | Dec 29 21:28 |
| Sosumi | I only use my parents credit card to pay for stuff that can't be payed in cash | Dec 29 21:30 |
| Sosumi | and that is online stuff | Dec 29 21:30 |
| Sosumi | but it's usually small stuff, I doubt it's even enough to pay for the card itself | Dec 29 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | I use it everywhere. | Dec 29 21:33 |
| Sosumi | I use cash | Dec 29 21:33 |
| Sosumi | cash when possible | Dec 29 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3460093 | Dec 29 22:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Which will be the big economies in 15 years? It's not a done deal http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/29/worlds-largest-economies-and-their-future #uk #eu #china #russia | Dec 29 22:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Which will be the big economies in 15 years? It's not a done deal | Will Hutton | Comment is free | The Observer [ http://ur1.ca/ga3nu ] | Dec 29 22:10 |
| schestowitz | "Brazil. Maybe Australia. ... ... ... If there's much of any 'economy' to report on in 15 years. I'm expecting collapse." | Dec 29 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | I posted this on A&E's wall: | Dec 29 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | Don't just delete A&E from your channel line up. Ditch cable TV altogether and save yourself thousands of dollars per year. I ditched my cable TV several years ago, because the line up is 99% garbage. While A&E is letting the American Taliban have a reality show, where the "patriarch" is using crude, derogatory, indecent, and impudent language to describe human beings and body parts, and recommending that you marry and have sex with 15 year | Dec 29 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | old girls, the Science Channel dropped Professor Brian Cox. What a waste. A&E is partially to blame for the vast intellectual wasteland that is cable TV. | Dec 29 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's clear that the peckerheads that run A&E will let him get away with saying anything. Why don't they just make a reality show about the Taliban. I'm sure that you'll walk away with much the same experience as watching Duck Dynasty. | Dec 29 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Martin Van Der Harst Too bad you used a clip that was edited (partial, not full context) | Dec 29 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Me: I think it's pretty clear that he said what he meant. In those backwards right-wing crazy states like Kentucky, the age of consent is still only 14. I don't think that's right. Maybe the Fundamentalist Christians that homeskewl their children want to marry them off at age 14, so they can start having babies, but it's a disgusting thing to do. | Dec 29 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | What part of "you can't wait until they turn 20, you've got to marry them at age 15 or 16" could be taken any other way than at face value? | Dec 29 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, this "gem" came from the guy that waited 50 years to give his wife a wedding ring and said that the way to keep your wife is to bring home dead squirrels, so yeah. You can take the trash out of the trailer, but you can't take the trash out of the trash, apparently... People watch this stuff? Garbage in, garbage out. | Dec 29 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | shared Americans Against The Republican Party's photo. | Dec 29 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/s526x395/1004809_696988640323004_1059421146_n.png | Dec 29 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | 've never been fond of tax exemption for a "church" (the Catholic one) that accumulates gold, diamonds, and real estate worth billions of dollars, while many millions of people are homeless and hungry. | Dec 29 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks to the religious tax exemption, we're also subsidizing the Church of Scientology. In other words, if you're a tax payer, you just bought them their "Religious Technology Training Center" in Clearwater, Florida. I understand that they have a bottomless pit and a time machine though. At least, they claim they do. I plan on breaking in and going back in time to kill Hitler. Who's with me? | Dec 29 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | We can take him back to 2013 and throw him in the bottomless pit. | Dec 29 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Dec 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, come on. What's a few body thetans among friends? Am I right? | Dec 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | Martin Van Der Harst When I click the link, I get a liberal hatched job story, with a video. | Dec 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | The video does not include the full quote, You need to check with mom and dad about that, of course." | Dec 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Me: So, you need to have permission from their mom and dad before you have sex with their.....fifteen year old child.... Well, that makes being a pedophile totally acceptable then! /sarcasm A&E: The Pedophile Network. | Dec 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | It's clear that the fundies want men to marry 15 year old girls, because they are young and naive, and will develop no skills or coping mechanisms for living on their own, and will be more likely to depend on the predator for basic needs for the rest of their life. | Dec 29 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | I've been trolling A&E's facebook wall. | Dec 29 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | I think I've called them everything in the book, including pedophile enablers. | Dec 29 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, I totally understand that a church needs to bring in enough money to keep the lights on, the building maintained, and to pay the pastor/priest a stipend, but some of these organized religions are just awful. They go way beyond that. | Dec 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Televangelism hasn't changed much since the Jim Bakker scandal. He was using the money he brought in to buy all kinds of extravagant things, including an air conditioned dog house for his dogs. They even paid hotel room service to bring them $300 worth of freshly baked cinnamon buns, to make their hotel room smell like cinnamon buns. | Dec 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | I am really annoyed to no end with those types. They get people like my mom and grandmother to send them money, and you know what they're all using it for. | Dec 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | The Koch Brothers and other Tea Party groups have also taken over those channels, and use them to spew right-wing un-American propaganda. | Dec 29 22:49 |
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| DaemonFC | You know what I say about NIMBYs? We should ignore them. If something is bringing jobs to your area, you shouldn't be allowed to complain about it unless it interferes with the actual use of your property. | Dec 29 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of NIMBYs that are protesting wind farms. I think there ought to be a law that stops local governments from being able to refuse them. The climate crisis so urgently needs to be dealt with, that the wind farm needs to take top priority over the people who shout "OMG! That's going to totally be visible from my house!". | Dec 29 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | Just out of curiosity, I searched for some benchmarks comparing Apple's A7 processor (PowerPC architecture, in the iPhone 5s) to the Snapdragon 800 (armv7 architecture, which powers high end Android and Windows phones). | Dec 29 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | The Snapdragon 600 is faster than the Apple A7, and the Snapdragon 800 is much faster than the A7. | Dec 29 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | The Snapdragon 805 will be out next year, and may even end up in the Samsung Galaxy S5, but if you're looking for a phone today, you'll want the Snapdragon 800. | Dec 29 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's in my LG G2, and I couldn't be more impressed with the performance or battery life. Qualcomm really hit this one out of the ballpark. And the phones that have the Snapdragon 800 CPU are hundreds of dollars cheaper than iPhone 5s. | Dec 29 23:03 |
| MinceR | except A7 is ARM. | Dec 29 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | I thought it was PPC? | Dec 29 23:04 |
| DaemonFC | No? | Dec 29 23:04 |
| MinceR | it's an ARM, according to wikipedia | Dec 29 23:04 |
| MinceR | (and according to my memory as well) | Dec 29 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | The only test that the iPhone 5s did better on than my LG G2 is the Sunspider Javascript benchmark, which was written by Apple. | Dec 29 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | And you'd expect that their own web browser would ace that. | Dec 29 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | Technically, the A7 should be better, but the phone benchmarks on the iPhone are actually worse than the top Android phones with the Snapdragon processors. | Dec 29 23:07 |
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| DaemonFC | I suppose it could all boil down to Android being a better operating system. | Dec 29 23:07 |
| MinceR | i wonder if hypeOS (and OSuX) still uses the frankenkernel | Dec 29 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | The difference between the LG G2 and Nexus 5 are significant. | Dec 29 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | The only major difference is that the G2 has Android 4.2.2, and the Nexus 5 has Android 4.4 | Dec 29 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | The Nexus 5 hardware is the same. | Dec 29 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | So, maybe when they upgrade the G2 to Android 4.4, further benchmarking is in order. | Dec 29 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 29 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | I heard that LG is rolling out the Android 4.4 update in certain areas right now. I haven't received it yet. | Dec 29 23:09 |
| DaemonFC | I've had one upgrade since I got the phone. It just fixed two bugs in Android 4.2.2 though. | Dec 29 23:09 |
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| DaemonFC | "Gays don't go to Heaven." Who died and made you God? | Dec 29 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Like · a few seconds ago | Dec 29 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Jeff Jerry Webb Well good luck on the upcoming marriage. Which one of you will wear the gown? And which one of you will bear the children? Oh, I forgot that child bearing can only be possible if one of you is actually a female. Well good luck anyway and maybe we'll meet in Heaven. Silly me, I keep forgetting that gays don't go to Heaven. | Dec 29 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Me: I never wanted children anyway. My bf is already basically raising the children that his good for nothing cousin produced. The most reproductive straight people are often the least productive. His cousin sits around all day and smokes that K2 Spice crap. Leaves the kids with my bf. My bf's cousin was mad when his kids started calling my bf "daddy". My bf is a really spectacular person. He stepped up and made sure that those kids have fo | Dec 29 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | od to eat and go to school every day, and they aren't even his kids! Oh, and, we'll both be wearing suits. | Dec 29 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Like · 2 minutes ago | Dec 29 23:34 |
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| Sosumi | crapple could be cheating on the benchmarks just like samsung did | Dec 30 00:28 |
| Sosumi | but there's no way to know | Dec 30 00:28 |
| Sosumi | also what made you think that the A7 was PPC, that was fun | Dec 30 00:28 |
| Sosumi | and gays don't go to heaven | Dec 30 00:32 |
| Sosumi | they're buried or cremated just like everyone else is | Dec 30 00:33 |
| Sosumi | when they die, that is | Dec 30 00:33 |
| Sosumi | and before I forget | Dec 30 00:34 |
| Sosumi | when you see the iphone beating an "equivalent" high end device | Dec 30 00:34 |
| Sosumi | keep in mind that the iphone has a lower resolution screen | Dec 30 00:35 |
| Sosumi | and that beating equals at most 7 to 10 frames | Dec 30 00:35 |
| MinceR | it's an oxymoron anyway | Dec 30 00:36 |
| MinceR | the hypePhone is not a high end device | Dec 30 00:36 |
| Sosumi | nop, it's just like one of those luxuary phones | Dec 30 00:37 |
| MinceR | even worse | Dec 30 00:37 |
| Sosumi | like a vertu or those overpriced nokias | Dec 30 00:37 |
| MinceR | at least luxury phones ran symbian and android, afaik | Dec 30 00:37 |
| MinceR | even if they had relatively weak hardware | Dec 30 00:37 |
| Sosumi | I wouldn't be concerned too much about the lolphone | Dec 30 00:45 |
| Sosumi | they seem to only be popular inside the US | Dec 30 00:45 |
| Sosumi | but outside it is another story | Dec 30 00:46 |
| DaemonFC | The Moto G is a good all-around phone if you're in the market for an unlocked phone. | Dec 30 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | But, if you're going contract, at least get a G2 or the Nexus 5. | Dec 30 00:50 |
| DaemonFC | There's no point in getting the Moto G over the Nexus 5 if They're both the same price with a contract. The Nexus 5 is a much nicer phone. | Dec 30 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | Those prepaid companies are peddling crap. | Dec 30 00:51 |
| DaemonFC | They can afford to be cheap because they're basically giving you the crumbs from the big name carriers. | Dec 30 00:52 |
| Sosumi | motorola doesn't sell their stuff in portugal | Dec 30 00:52 |
| Sosumi | also no such thing as contract phones here | Dec 30 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint lets you upgrade every 20 months at the subsidized prices. | Dec 30 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | It restarts your two year contract though. | Dec 30 00:52 |
| Sosumi | nexus 5, G2 and so on are either sold locked or unlocked | Dec 30 00:52 |
| DaemonFC | You can keep using your old phone and go month to month, but the monthly price stays the same. | Dec 30 00:53 |
| Sosumi | and locked only means at most 90€ discount over the unlocked price | Dec 30 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | Oh. The federal government just entered into an agreement with Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint. | Dec 30 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | They have to unlock your phone after your contract is up. | Dec 30 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | So when my contract is over, I could demand that Sprint unlocks my phone. | Dec 30 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | Then I can take my phone to any other carrier and keep using it. | Dec 30 00:54 |
| Sosumi | they do the same here, but it's after 2 years | Dec 30 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. So, if I want to save some money when the contract is up, I just tell Sprint to unlock the phone, then I can activate it on one of the prepaid networks. | Dec 30 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | So, you basically own the phone when the contract is up. | Dec 30 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I have a feeling that that will cause the major carriers to offer some "deals" when your contract is about up. | Dec 30 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't be surprised to see Sprint offer some high end phones with a small up front payment. Maybe even no up front payment. | Dec 30 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | They charge enough for the service that they can give the phones away. | Dec 30 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | Razors and blades. | Dec 30 00:56 |
| Sosumi | with all the info they collect, carriers, NSA/CIA and so on, Google, M$, Apple | Dec 30 00:58 |
| Sosumi | I wonder why they don't give them for free | Dec 30 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | They were paying people to take iPhone 5c over Christmas. | Dec 30 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | You paid $49 for it and they gave you a $75 Walmart gift card. | Dec 30 01:00 |
| Sosumi | LOOOOL | Dec 30 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | I wasn't really considering it though. In the end you've not only got an iPhone, eww, but the slowest model sell. | Dec 30 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | *they sell | Dec 30 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency | Dec 30 01:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Reserve currency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ga5fc ] | Dec 30 01:03 |
| MinceR | at least a negative value is closer to its actual worth | Dec 30 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | The US Dollar is not only remarkably stable, it's actually gaining again. Slowly. Mostly at the expense of the Euro. | Dec 30 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | The European Central Bank is performing so badly, that it's actually scaring people back into the market for US Dollars. | Dec 30 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that's a good thing for us, for now. | Dec 30 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | It keeps imports cheap and increases our buying power for the time being. | Dec 30 01:05 |
| Sosumi | damaging exports | Dec 30 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | Exports are up, actually. | Dec 30 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | Especially American-built cars. | Dec 30 01:06 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 30 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | Well, what's going on is that the foreign car makers are setting up in the southern US states. | Dec 30 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | They like the "business climate" of no taxes and low wages. | Dec 30 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | They can build their cars here and sell them in other markets cheaper than paying the taxes and wages of other developed countries. | Dec 30 01:08 |
| Sosumi | I see | Dec 30 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | The average wage of a union auto worker in Michigan is about $20 an hour. | Dec 30 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | The average wage of a non-union auto worker in Alabama is about $11-12 an hour. | Dec 30 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | I can tell you which one I'd rather drive though. | Dec 30 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Ford still makes better cars and trucks than other companies that build cars here. | Dec 30 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to have one of their new F-150s. The ones that they'll be making out of aluminum here in a year or two. | Dec 30 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | They said they expect to get the weight down by over 700 pounds, and the gas mileage up over 30 miles per gallon. | Dec 30 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | That's pretty good for a pickup truck. | Dec 30 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's kind of ridiculous to keep making auto bodies out of steel. | Dec 30 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's heavy, it's expensive. | Dec 30 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nbcnews.com/business/set-detroit-debut-fords-aluminum-f-150-2D11812834 | Dec 30 01:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.nbcnews.com | Set for Detroit debut: Ford's aluminum F-150 - NBC News.com [ http://ur1.ca/ga5in ] | Dec 30 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | The 2015 Mustang is looking good too. | Dec 30 01:12 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 30 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, I specifically set out looking for a Crown Victoria this year. | Dec 30 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | I bought a 1996 one. | Dec 30 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | I've been pretty impressed. I'm getting better gas mileage than the Taurus was, and the car is much faster. | Dec 30 01:14 |
| Sosumi | well, that's nice | Dec 30 01:15 |
| Cirrus_Minor | http://linuxgizmos.com/open-sbc-runs-linux-on-quad-core-exynos-4412/ | Dec 30 01:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | linuxgizmos.com | $59 open SBC runs Linux on quad-core Exynos · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/g9qcx ] | Dec 30 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, I don't like the newer cars. | Dec 30 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | They've gotten so small. | Dec 30 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | No leg room. | Dec 30 01:17 |
| Sosumi | what's your height? | Dec 30 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | 6' 4" | Dec 30 01:18 |
| Sosumi | meters | Dec 30 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | 1.9304 | Dec 30 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 30 01:19 |
| Sosumi | you're a giant | Dec 30 01:19 |
| Sosumi | I'm only 1.73 | Dec 30 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | I used to think so. | Dec 30 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting more common to see people of my height, or taller. | Dec 30 01:19 |
| Sosumi | we hobbits will prevail no matter what | Dec 30 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | This Spotify Radio is quite good. | Dec 30 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | Much better than Last.FM. | Dec 30 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | Last.FM was getting worse and it just kind of lingered on for a while. | Dec 30 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | Near the end, they lost access to so much music that it was the same few songs over and over again. | Dec 30 01:37 |
| Sosumi | never used them, nor bothered checking what they were all about | Dec 30 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | Spotify Radio is free on Android now. | Dec 30 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | If you want the ability to choose what it's playing or more than 6 skips per hour, you pay $9.99 a month. | Dec 30 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like choosing what it plays. I like the radio better. | Dec 30 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | It surprises me. | Dec 30 01:40 |
| Sosumi | hum... | Dec 30 01:40 |
| *DaemonFC is shopping for OTC medications on Amazon. | Dec 30 01:41 | |
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| Sosumi | I think it's much better to buy a big 64GB card and put all your music in it | Dec 30 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | People with warehouse club memberships buy it real cheap and then mark it up a few bucks and sell it on Amazon. | Dec 30 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | Works out for me. I don't want to buy a $60 a year membership to Costco in Fort Wayne so I can save $10-15 a year. | Dec 30 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 30 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | No point in that. | Dec 30 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | This stuff is still cheaper than at Walmart. | Dec 30 01:42 |
| Sosumi | the meds? | Dec 30 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 30 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | The savings are small, but they add up. | Dec 30 01:43 |
| Sosumi | I thought everything could be cured with a bottle of vodka | Dec 30 01:43 |
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| DaemonFC | I just buy the jumbo bottles and I saved like $4 on one and $17 on the other. | Dec 30 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | $21 | Dec 30 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | Have to buy a year's worth, but oh well. | Dec 30 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 30 01:44 |
| Sosumi | they don't do that here :) | Dec 30 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | I've done this for about 5 years now, so that's a little over $100. | Dec 30 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's not nothing. :) | Dec 30 01:44 |
| Sosumi | you buy a box of wathever in units of 15 or 20 | Dec 30 01:44 |
| Sosumi | depending on the kind of med | Dec 30 01:44 |
| Sosumi | but no jumbo boxes | Dec 30 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | Spotify's web player wants Flash. | Dec 30 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | Bleh! | Dec 30 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I could get Chrome just to leave open in the background. | Dec 30 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | The NPAPI version has sprung so many leaks that it really scares me to even have it installed. | Dec 30 01:49 |
| Sosumi | NPAPI? | Dec 30 01:50 |
| Cirrus_Minor | DaemonFC: ... | Dec 30 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | Netscape Plugin API | Dec 30 01:54 |
| Cirrus_Minor | i pkd thios for aur heres a standalone py script https://gist.github.com/cirrusUK | Dec 30 01:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gist.github.com | cirrusUK's Gists | Dec 30 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | The one that Firefox uses. | Dec 30 01:54 |
| Cirrus_Minor | poor mans spotify, its preddy awesome, play,search,download almost any song faster than any other method | Dec 30 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | The way Chrome runs plugins is safer. | Dec 30 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | It wouldn't do Firefox any good to implement Pepper though, because Adobe still wouldn't ship a standalone Flash plugin, and Firefox can't bundle it or they would not be Free. | Dec 30 01:56 |
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| DaemonFC | Sosumi, I do a lot of stuff like that. Bulk buying when I can get a really good deal. | Dec 30 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | It takes a long time for the savings to be fully realized, but on average, it saves me a few hundred dollars a year. | Dec 30 02:16 |
| Sosumi | yeah, no worries I can see that | Dec 30 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Dec 30 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | No Spotify app in the Windows store. | Dec 30 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | That must be embarrassing for Microsoft. | Dec 30 02:32 |
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| DaemonFC | Stocking my medicine cabinet with Costco-brand stuff that people sell on Amazon. | Dec 30 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | What's funny is that they can buy it at Costco, mark it up 50%, pay to ship it to an Amazon Warehouse, pay Amazon to ship it to me, and still be about 33% less expensive than Walmart. | Dec 30 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | McDonalds has shut down their "McResource" website, after being mercilessly lampooned for making out an employee budget that includes income from a second job, doesn't factor in heating or food, that still doesn't balance out, then telling employees to take two vacations per year, and how to tip their pool cleaner and personal masseuse. | Dec 30 03:17 |
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| DaemonFC | My mom was kind of shocked when I gave someone the advice of lying on a job application. | Dec 30 03:30 |
| DaemonFC | I told him to just say he had a high school diploma and to make up some job he never had and then get a relative with a different last name to play along. | Dec 30 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | She said "If they find out, they can fire him!". | Dec 30 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | I said "If he doesn't tell them this, he won't get the job and then he'll starve." | Dec 30 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | She doesn't know what it's like out there right now. | Dec 30 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | When there's three people competing over every job opening, and you have severe disadvantages, the only thing to do is lie so that they don't just toss your application in the trash. | Dec 30 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | It sucks, but it's what you have to do. | Dec 30 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETwl1BUHcXs | Dec 30 03:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Bo Burnham - 04 WDIDLN (what. album) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ga6tp ] | Dec 30 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link via Gizmodo. | Dec 30 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | 7 seconds ago | Dec 30 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://gizmo.do/BXpMAVr | Dec 30 04:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gizmodo.com | A Maximally Simple Breathalyzer Makes Sense for Drunk People | Dec 30 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | I'd have to be drunk before I bought an iPhone, so there'd be no point in having this app. | Dec 30 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | There's a bargain. | Dec 30 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | A year's worth of my allergy pills for $18.85 | Dec 30 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart's generic of the same medication is $20 for a 90 day supply. | Dec 30 05:08 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/27/video-violent-game-of-knockout-breaks-out-at-brooklyn-mall-after-hundreds-of-teens-plan-mass-looting-on-facebook-twitter/ | Dec 30 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theblaze.com | VIDEO: Violent Game of ‘Knockout’ Breaks Out at Brooklyn Mall After Hundreds of Teens Plan Mass Looting on Facebook, Twitter | Video | TheBlaze.com [ http://ur1.ca/ga92f ] | Dec 30 11:25 |
| Sosumi | was NSA watching porn again? | Dec 30 11:25 |
| Sosumi | instead of working | Dec 30 11:25 |
| iophk | Vista8 getting piggybacked onto regular Android machines: http://hothardware.com/News/PC-Plus-Machines-Being-Prepped-For-CES-To-Run-Android-On-Windows-In-Retaliation-Against-MSFT/ | Dec 30 11:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | hothardware.com | 'PC Plus' Machines Being Prepped For CES To Run Android On Windows In Retaliation Against MSFT - HotHardware [ http://ur1.ca/ga971 ] | Dec 30 11:56 |
| iophk | Android machines to run Vista8 in retaliation against ? | Dec 30 11:56 |
| iophk | A resurfacing of the 'windows too' tactic. | Dec 30 11:56 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/12/wii-u-gamepad-hacked-reverse-engineered-to-steam-from-a-pc/ | Dec 30 17:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Wii U gamepad hacked, reverse engineered to stream from a PC | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gaagc ] | Dec 30 17:42 |
| Sosumi | wii u | Dec 30 17:42 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 30 17:42 |
| Sosumi | think of a game gear broken in two parts | Dec 30 17:42 |
| Sosumi | but instead of taking 6 AA batteries | Dec 30 17:42 |
| Sosumi | you need to carry an UPS on your backpack | Dec 30 17:43 |
| Sosumi | just try to pack one 3000VA UPS from APC | Dec 30 17:45 |
| Sosumi | I think one of those weight as much as 80KG | Dec 30 17:46 |
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| Sosumi | scary, even a simple 1500VA ups is scary | Dec 30 17:46 |
| MinceR | mine is 800 VA :> | Dec 30 17:47 |
| Sosumi | I had a 800VA UPS back in 2002 | Dec 30 17:49 |
| Sosumi | from MGE | Dec 30 17:49 |
| Sosumi | but for some reason it ended up in flames 3 years later | Dec 30 17:49 |
| MinceR | mine is from Eaton, successor to MGE | Dec 30 17:50 |
| Sosumi | after that happened I contacted MGE and they offered me discount | Dec 30 17:51 |
| Sosumi | *a | Dec 30 17:51 |
| Sosumi | and picked a 1200VA model which I still have around, now serving a audio system+TV | Dec 30 17:51 |
| Sosumi | both models were ellipse premium | Dec 30 17:52 |
| Sosumi | your typical 500€ UPS | Dec 30 17:52 |
| Sosumi | but back in 2009 had to jump to 2200VA and got an apc from the SUA series | Dec 30 17:53 |
| Sosumi | it has been nice and it actually mitigates powerline issues | Dec 30 17:54 |
| Sosumi | also, wasn't MGE bought by the schneier electric group? | Dec 30 17:55 |
| Sosumi | which also owns APC | Dec 30 17:55 |
| MinceR | i think it was split up and bought by multiple entities | Dec 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | apparently part of it indeed ended up at Schneider Electric | Dec 30 17:56 |
| MinceR | they combined APC with MGE UPS Systems | Dec 30 17:57 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 30 17:57 |
| MinceR | Eaton bought MGE Office Protection Systems | Dec 30 17:57 |
| Sosumi | so I guess that means UPSs made in India | Dec 30 17:57 |
| Sosumi | just like my APC | Dec 30 17:58 |
| Sosumi | while the MGEs were at least assembled in france | Dec 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 30 17:58 |
| Sosumi | I guess that was why one of them ended up surrendering in such way | Dec 30 17:59 |
| Sosumi | frenchies... | Dec 30 17:59 |
| MinceR | "In late 2007, [Eaton Corporation] acquired the MGE Office Protection Systems division of Schneider Electric, as a result of Schneider's acquisition of APC." | Dec 30 17:59 |
| MinceR | strange | Dec 30 17:59 |
| MinceR | maybe they were under pressure due to antitrust regulations | Dec 30 17:59 |
| Sosumi | probably | Dec 30 17:59 |
| schestowitz | [11:58] <iophk> Android machines to run Vista8 in retaliation against ? | Dec 30 18:03 |
| schestowitz | If it's Android on PCs, then it's OK | Dec 30 18:03 |
| schestowitz | If Windows on phones and tablets, we're losing there | Dec 30 18:04 |
| schestowitz | In this case it's a loss to MSFT, I think | Dec 30 18:04 |
| Sosumi | why bother with windows mobile, it's trash | Dec 30 18:07 |
| Sosumi | it doesn't even have basic stuff that is even available on iphone os | Dec 30 18:08 |
| Sosumi | pfff M$ | Dec 30 18:08 |
| iophk | Android on notebooks is ok but why the extra baggage of Vista8? | Dec 30 18:08 |
| Sosumi | neither of them make sense on notebooks | Dec 30 18:09 |
| Sosumi | why limit the notebook to android aka google crap and ms junk | Dec 30 18:09 |
| Sosumi | when you can put some gnu/linux distro | Dec 30 18:10 |
| schestowitz | iophk: better than win only | Dec 30 18:10 |
| iophk | yes, it is that | Dec 30 18:10 |
| Sosumi | if that removes the need to pay the software licence | Dec 30 18:11 |
| Sosumi | then it is ok | Dec 30 18:11 |
| iophk | I suspect that the dual boot is a compromise to appease M$ | Dec 30 18:11 |
| Sosumi | as many laptops are actually requiring you to boot linux and accept the licence | Dec 30 18:11 |
| iophk | GPL EULA? | Dec 30 18:11 |
| Sosumi | before you reboot to access the bios and boot from an USB stick to install some distro | Dec 30 18:12 |
| Sosumi | *I meant boot windows | Dec 30 18:12 |
| Sosumi | *too much multitasking* | Dec 30 18:12 |
| iophk | Isn't that impossible with UEFI now? | Dec 30 18:12 |
| Sosumi | yeah with EFI, it applies to those | Dec 30 18:13 |
| iophk | http://rt.com/news/underreported-news-stories-2013-836/ | Dec 30 18:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | rt.com | Swartz, Fracking, Manning, GMO: 13 most underreported news stories of 2013 — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/g9s0f ] | Dec 30 18:13 |
| Sosumi | in those you need to boot winblows instead of going directly to the bios and booting from a usb stick | Dec 30 18:13 |
| Sosumi | that's what I meant | Dec 30 18:13 |
| iophk | http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/12/aaron-swartz-obituary-101418.html | Dec 30 18:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.politico.com | Why They Mattered: Aaron Swartz - Lawrence Lessig - POLITICO Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/g92p3 ] | Dec 30 18:14 |
| Sosumi | but I can't tell about newer models, specially consumer models | Dec 30 18:14 |
| iophk | some are locked down | Dec 30 18:17 |
| iophk | http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2013/12/30/nokias-new-2520-tablet-is-one-to-avoid.html | Dec 30 18:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dispatch.com | Nokia’s new 2520 tablet is one to avoid | The Columbus Dispatch [ http://ur1.ca/gaaoa ] | Dec 30 18:17 |
| Sosumi | nokia is dead | Dec 30 18:17 |
| iophk | quite dead | Dec 30 18:18 |
| Sosumi | and their last kewl phone was the E7 | Dec 30 18:18 |
| Sosumi | actually all their E series were quite nice | Dec 30 18:18 |
| Sosumi | http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e7-3545.php | Dec 30 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.gsmarena.com | Nokia E7 - Full phone specifications [ http://ur1.ca/gaaol ] | Dec 30 18:19 |
| iophk | http://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia | Dec 30 18:19 |
| iophk | M$ left them with the patents, risking turning them into a patent troll | Dec 30 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | seekingalpha.com | Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NOK): How Stephen Elop Destroyed Nokia [Apple Inc., Google Inc] - Seeking Alpha [ http://ur1.ca/eiog3 ] | Dec 30 18:19 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: windows mobile is dead. they're bothering with windows phone, which is much worse. | Dec 30 18:19 |
| Sosumi | should have gotten that one when it was available | Dec 30 18:19 |
| Sosumi | you can beat a dead horse | Dec 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | and the nokia E series was always lacking in features, iirc | Dec 30 18:20 |
| Sosumi | but no matter how hard you beat, it'll never move | Dec 30 18:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 30 18:21 |
| Sosumi | E series were good enough for me | Dec 30 18:21 |
| iophk | Wikipedia has been sanitized by M$ boosters: | Dec 30 18:21 |
| iophk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elop_effect | Dec 30 18:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Stephen Elop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 30 18:21 |
| iophk | the page redirects | Dec 30 18:21 |
| Sosumi | and had decent build quality with some metal shells, etc | Dec 30 18:21 |
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| Sosumi | and I was checking Bill Binney's interview on infowhores | Dec 30 18:29 |
| Sosumi | until... | Dec 30 18:29 |
| Sosumi | AJ is now selling coffee | Dec 30 18:29 |
| Sosumi | will now Kim Jong Un want to attack the US in order to steal AJ's forty years supply of coffee | Dec 30 18:31 |
| Sosumi | ofc I'm joking about AJ's "<patrito> packs" | Dec 30 18:31 |
| Sosumi | *patriot | Dec 30 18:31 |
| iophk | (08:10:23 PM) schestowitz: iophk: better than win only | Dec 30 18:33 |
| iophk | It would be interesting to know the background. Was it a M$ only machine that was negotiated into dual boot with Android? Or was it an Android machine saddled with M$ at the last minute? | Dec 30 18:33 |
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| iophk | http://mashable.com/2013/12/30/why-chromebooks-beat-macs-in-commercial-sales-in-2013/ | Dec 30 19:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mashable.com | Why Chromebooks Are Beating MacBooks [ http://ur1.ca/gaayc ] | Dec 30 19:39 |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/2013-a-linux-christmas-7000024666/ | Dec 30 20:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | 2013: A Linux Christmas | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gab1l ] | Dec 30 20:02 |
| iophk | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/10-disappointments-for-open-source-in-2013/ | Dec 30 20:04 |
| iophk | #10?? | Dec 30 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techrepublic.com | 10 disappointments for open source in 2013 - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/gab23 ] | Dec 30 20:04 |
| MinceR | i suspect he meant to say "GNU/Linux tablet", but even those exist... | Dec 30 20:06 |
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| Sosumi | it's jack wallen | Dec 30 20:32 |
| Sosumi | I remember reading some jokes about him around somewhere | Dec 30 20:32 |
| Sosumi | because of something he posted on HFS and ext4 | Dec 30 20:33 |
| Sosumi | or NTFS | Dec 30 20:33 |
| Sosumi | I don't remember | Dec 30 20:33 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3463765 | Dec 30 20:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Buying train tickets in the #uk anonymously still possible, but using free Wi-Fi (anonymously) requires buying First Class tickets | Dec 30 20:40 |
| schestowitz | "they only think they are anonymous" | Dec 30 20:40 |
| schestowitz | The illusion of privacy is more dangerous than none -- leading you to self-incarceration | Dec 30 20:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3460805 | Dec 30 20:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: As #TSA & other enemies of human rights ask for 'right' to tamper with devices in roads/airports they basically want to bias/select evidence | Dec 30 20:52 |
| schestowitz | "Well, yes. What's interesting is they ask for what they have been doing for more than a decade. I've had my laptops confiscated to be inspected out of sight several times. Now they put their hands in people's crotches, I can't imagine what they were doing to my laptop." | Dec 30 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Wow, under what authority did they take the laptop in the first place? Is it legal? | Dec 30 20:52 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: Wallen is quite OK | Dec 30 21:02 |
| schestowitz | when you don't agree with him, it's worth debating rather than bashing | Dec 30 21:03 |
| schestowitz | same for SJVN | Dec 30 21:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3464779 | Dec 30 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Who's the "rogue state" now? http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/29/5253226/nsa-cia-fbi-laptop-usb-plant-spy Notice the disgusting lies from #nsa partners #microsoft and #cisco | Dec 30 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theverge.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gab70 ] | Dec 30 21:03 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ6kOvO1SUE | Dec 30 21:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | mr.popo called it - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gabbu ] | Dec 30 21:03 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.dailydot.com/politics/nsa-backdoor-iphone-access-camera-mic-appelbaum/ | Dec 30 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailydot.com | The Daily Dot - The NSA has nearly complete backdoor access to Apple's iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gabgu ] | Dec 30 21:42 |
| MinceR | as expected | Dec 30 21:43 |
| Sosumi | well captain obvious appelbaum | Dec 30 21:43 |
| goblin_ | Wow, under what authority did they take the laptop in the first place? Is it legal? - Quite legal. Forgetting the condition of entry to any airport there's section 60 or a plethora of other powers they can use. | Dec 30 21:45 |
| Sosumi | apple's stuff is easily exploitable | Dec 30 21:45 |
| Sosumi | they were even jailbraking iphones through the built in browser a while a go | Dec 30 21:46 |
| goblin_ | I would suggest that the only good iPhone is a jailbroken one. | Dec 30 21:46 |
| Sosumi | naaah | Dec 30 21:47 |
| goblin_ | never owned one though. | Dec 30 21:47 |
| Sosumi | it messes the entire thing | Dec 30 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.democracynow.org/2013/12/30/glenn_greenwald_the_nsa_can_literally | Dec 30 21:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.democracynow.org | Glenn Greenwald: The NSA Can "Literally Watch Every Keystroke You Make" | Democracy Now! [ http://ur1.ca/gabhd ] | Dec 30 21:47 |
| MinceR | still an inferior substitute for a real smartphone | Dec 30 21:47 |
| Sosumi | from what I read, encryption wont work | Dec 30 21:47 |
| Sosumi | the only real smartphones around are the nexus phones | Dec 30 21:48 |
| Sosumi | those are the only ones in which you wont have a problem installing your own cooked roms | Dec 30 21:48 |
| MinceR | why those? | Dec 30 21:48 |
| Sosumi | because you void the warranty on the others | Dec 30 21:48 |
| Sosumi | I think | Dec 30 21:48 |
| MinceR | i think it depends on the manufacturer | Dec 30 21:48 |
| MinceR | also if it voids the warranty on the hw or just the sw | Dec 30 21:48 |
| Sosumi | hardware, if the cooked rom bricks the phone | Dec 30 21:49 |
| Sosumi | the manufacturer may refuse to repair the device under warranty | Dec 30 21:49 |
| MinceR | i suspect that if you brick a nexus device by flashing it, the warranty won't cover that either | Dec 30 21:50 |
| Sosumi | ho, ouch :) | Dec 30 21:50 |
| MinceR | i really like the way the Raspberry Pi is unbrickable | Dec 30 21:50 |
| Sosumi | does samsung/lg et all release the source code of their android builds and drivers? | Dec 30 21:51 |
| MinceR | not sure | Dec 30 21:51 |
| MinceR | it seems that eventually samsung did release the code cyanogenmod wanted | Dec 30 21:52 |
| Sosumi | well, that is good | Dec 30 21:52 |
| MinceR | but that is indeed easier in the case of nexus devices | Dec 30 21:52 |
| Sosumi | but with the nexus, you actually have the source code | Dec 30 21:52 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 30 21:52 |
| MinceR | though i wonder how the google experience launcher is handled in the case of the nexus 5 | Dec 30 21:52 |
| Sosumi | no idea, | Dec 30 21:52 |
| Sosumi | I'm still holding for a 32GB nexus 5 | Dec 30 21:53 |
| Sosumi | at this moment only the 16GB model is available | Dec 30 21:53 |
| Sosumi | but the from a generalized POV, only the nexus series behave like a true smartphone | Dec 30 21:54 |
| Sosumi | with the other devices you're actually at the mercy of the manufacturer | Dec 30 21:54 |
| Sosumi | just like the iphone | Dec 30 21:54 |
| Sosumi | although in a less restricted way | Dec 30 21:54 |
| Sosumi | with iphone you can't even load your own apps without going through apple's control and paying 99€ | Dec 30 21:55 |
| Sosumi | for something that you just want to use yourself | Dec 30 21:55 |
| Sosumi | also, it is widely known that these devices have kill switches and backdoors by default | Dec 30 21:57 |
| Sosumi | saying the nsa this or that is plain dumb | Dec 30 21:57 |
| Sosumi | they are already there | Dec 30 21:57 |
| MinceR | we need more smartphones that communicate with the radio cpu over serial link | Dec 30 21:58 |
| MinceR | as opposed to DMA | Dec 30 21:58 |
| Sosumi | well, and you don't have access to source code that runs those quallcomm modules | Dec 30 21:58 |
| MinceR | that would be nice too | Dec 30 21:59 |
| MinceR | but the serial link would already be a great step toward having security | Dec 30 21:59 |
| Sosumi | probably | Dec 30 21:59 |
| MinceR | now i encountered a "vevo" video on youtube that DownloadHelper couldn't save, but offliberty could save it | Dec 30 22:01 |
| Sosumi | what surprises me in this is crapple | Dec 30 22:14 |
| Sosumi | the company with the bitten apple, symbolizing the fruit bitten by the original man from the tree of knowledge | Dec 30 22:16 |
| Sosumi | ought to know better | Dec 30 22:16 |
| Sosumi | but it seems like they don't | Dec 30 22:16 |
| MinceR | they ought to know that story is false :> | Dec 30 22:17 |
| Sosumi | or refuse to acknowledge their flaws | Dec 30 22:17 |
| Sosumi | it's an allegory | Dec 30 22:17 |
| Sosumi | everything in the bible is | Dec 30 22:17 |
| Sosumi | just like the foundations of other religions | Dec 30 22:18 |
| MinceR | it's abrahamic religion's way of saying "you're evil because wanting knowledge is evil" and "you're punished for the sins of your ancestors" | Dec 30 22:18 |
| Sosumi | but it sets the example | Dec 30 22:18 |
| MinceR | it shows how much their supposed morality is worth | Dec 30 22:18 |
| Sosumi | but using the same stuff | Dec 30 22:18 |
| MinceR | abrahamic religion is a huge setback to human development | Dec 30 22:19 |
| Sosumi | if you've studied eastern mysticism, those religions say the material world is wrong and you should purge yourself of desires of the flesh | Dec 30 22:19 |
| MinceR | what would i be left with? | Dec 30 22:19 |
| Sosumi | with a dull life | Dec 30 22:20 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound like it's worth the trouble | Dec 30 22:20 |
| Sosumi | but having a god materialize into this world, aka jesus, that means the material world isn't all that bad | Dec 30 22:21 |
| Sosumi | and well | Dec 30 22:21 |
| Sosumi | when seth chopped osiris into 13 pieces and scattered them around | Dec 30 22:22 |
| MinceR | having an evil, childish and vengeful god materialize into this world? that's pretty bad | Dec 30 22:22 |
| Sosumi | isis set on a journey to recover them | Dec 30 22:22 |
| Sosumi | recovering all of them except one | Dec 30 22:22 |
| Sosumi | his phalus | Dec 30 22:22 |
| Sosumi | then she carved a phallus for her deceased brother/lover | Dec 30 22:23 |
| Sosumi | and with "magic" she impregnated herself | Dec 30 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | <Sosumi> I'm still holding for a 32GB nexus 5 | Dec 30 22:23 |
| Sosumi | gaving to birth Horus | Dec 30 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | I went for the LG G2 because the hardware is substantially similar to Nexus 5. | Dec 30 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | But, all the Nexus 5 contract phones are 16 GB. | Dec 30 22:24 |
| Sosumi | so Horus is Osiris born again | Dec 30 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | 32 GB is a massive amount of storage for an Android device. | Dec 30 22:24 |
| Sosumi | and when the SUN-SETHS the cycle is repeated again | Dec 30 22:24 |
| Sosumi | you see, religion is just natural phenomena and astrological stuff told in certain particular way | Dec 30 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't want to go 16, because that might not be enough, but I've installed tons of apps and games, and I already have over a hundred high-res photos, and I still have like 23 GB available. | Dec 30 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | So, 16 GB is probably sufficient, but 32 is better. | Dec 30 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | 32 basically means you should never run out of storage, which is good. | Dec 30 22:25 |
| Sosumi | I scan a lot of books and my music library is huge | Dec 30 22:25 |
| Sosumi | and all lossless | Dec 30 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Apps only tend to be like 1-5 MB for basic ones. | Dec 30 22:25 |
| Sosumi | plus I have good headphones (sennheiser momentum) | Dec 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe 15-20 for large games. | Dec 30 22:26 |
| Sosumi | but I really don't care about games | Dec 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | I think the biggest one I've seen was GTA: Vice City, which was over 100, but that's the only one I've seen that topped 100. | Dec 30 22:26 |
| Sosumi | just an doc editor/viewer | Dec 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | 32 GB is just a gigantic amount of storage for these things. | Dec 30 22:26 |
| Sosumi | and the typical twitter and google paraphernalia is enough | Dec 30 22:27 |
| MinceR | religion is more like people making up shit to answer questions they don't know the answer to | Dec 30 22:27 |
| MinceR | and then pretending that now they know the answers | Dec 30 22:27 |
| MinceR | and they stop looking for answers | Dec 30 22:27 |
| MinceR | and attack anyone who dares | Dec 30 22:27 |
| Sosumi | well you see... | Dec 30 22:27 |
| MinceR | some religions are more tolerant of science, though | Dec 30 22:28 |
| Sosumi | the ancient folks personified inanimate objects like the sun etc | Dec 30 22:28 |
| Sosumi | or even attributed a specific deity to some specific labor | Dec 30 22:28 |
| Sosumi | like a as aspect of a god, or a saint to some trade like fishing, law, birth, etc | Dec 30 22:29 |
| Sosumi | and I really don't blame them | Dec 30 22:30 |
| Sosumi | in a word of uncertainty paranoia is the law | Dec 30 22:30 |
| Sosumi | and you have to cling up to something | Dec 30 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's not necessarily that they don't want to know the answer. | Dec 30 22:30 |
| Sosumi | *world | Dec 30 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone reaches a point where they either can't comprehend the answer to a question, or become stuck with something that can't be determined. | Dec 30 22:31 |
| Sosumi | but that was back then, although there is still way too much backwardness around | Dec 30 22:32 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: it's that the real answer is often "heresy" | Dec 30 22:33 |
| MinceR | and then you have people tortured, threatened, killed, silenced, etc. | Dec 30 22:33 |
| Sosumi | and religion is just not devoting yourself to what some mediator (priest) says that god wants | Dec 30 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I was home schooled for a long time with those LIFEPAC and PACE things. | Dec 30 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | I can verify that some of what is in them is easy to mock. | Dec 30 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | For the most part, I think the material is comparable to what people in public schools will learn in a particular grade. | Dec 30 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the religious stuff comes in as an addendum. | Dec 30 22:34 |
| DaemonFC | Like "Here's algebra!" and you learn algebra, but then it makes comments like "God gave us math so that....". | Dec 30 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | So, you really do learn the material, but it kind of shoehorn's God into everything. | Dec 30 22:35 |
| Sosumi | it may come under the form of deranged ideas, like malthusianism or uttermost greed | Dec 30 22:35 |
| Sosumi | and actually, god didn't gave us algebra | Dec 30 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | Some of it really did challenge my ways of thinking about things, in the opposite way of what they intended though. | Dec 30 22:36 |
| Sosumi | in fact it was the fallen angels expelled from paradise after rebelling against god | Dec 30 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | So, I think it's just as likely to backfire as it is to get the student to accept God as the reason for everything. | Dec 30 22:36 |
| Sosumi | that thought man astrology, math, work with metals, war, etc | Dec 30 22:36 |
| Sosumi | so in fact everything you do is evil | Dec 30 22:36 |
| Sosumi | bow down sinners | Dec 30 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Like, it points out things like secular humanism and Darwinian Evolution. It tries to discourage you from following that, but the point is that it mentions them. | Dec 30 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | The student may have never even heard of them. | Dec 30 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | So, it encourages some of them to go learn more. | Dec 30 22:37 |
| Sosumi | because for the priesthood, this was a form to keep control over a population or server as advisors to the local warlord | Dec 30 22:37 |
| MinceR | what's "deranged" about malthusianism? | Dec 30 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Some of what those ACE PACE books teach would actually enrage right-wingers. | Dec 30 22:38 |
| Sosumi | it's backwards mentality trying to lock you down from development | Dec 30 22:38 |
| MinceR | that it would stand in the way of humanity's plan of forcing nature into regulating the human population via the most drastic methods? :> | Dec 30 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | I remember that in one book, it had a very anti-Capitalism message to it. | Dec 30 22:39 |
| Sosumi | also, from the darwinian theory | Dec 30 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | It said that we should all make it a goal to lead non-materialistic lives. | Dec 30 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Then it went into the evils of consumerism and advertising. | Dec 30 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | So, it's not all bad. | Dec 30 22:39 |
| Sosumi | and again the double edged sword | Dec 30 22:39 |
| Sosumi | if a species goes exctint | Dec 30 22:39 |
| Sosumi | it just means that it failed to adapt to the new conditions | Dec 30 22:40 |
| Sosumi | after all, his book was "the origin of the species by means of NATURAL SELECTION" | Dec 30 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | Advertising does anger me. It's a waste of my time. | Dec 30 22:40 |
| Sosumi | evolution came much later | Dec 30 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | I don't have the money to buy most of what is being advertised, so it just makes me feel bad. | Dec 30 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | The only advertising that I really respond to is maybe if I get a coupon for something I was already planning to buy. | Dec 30 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | In this economy, who could really blame me for that? :) | Dec 30 22:41 |
| Sosumi | and actually, you don't have the complete stages of evolution for any species on this planet | Dec 30 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | I go out of my way to stockpile necessities when I get coupons. Like, I went down to the grocery store during one of their "mega events", armed with hundreds of coupons, and I ended up walking out with a cart full of soap, shampoo, deodorant, toothpaste, dish liquid, etc. Just dozens of things I use every day. | Dec 30 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | And most of it was free. | Dec 30 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | So, I'm one of those customers that they really rather wouldn't have. | Dec 30 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | My next stop was ALDI, of course, for all my groceries. So the store and the manufacturers that had the sale and coupons lost money on me when I used them in that manner. | Dec 30 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | If everyone was like me, they'd soon be out of business. | Dec 30 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | I see it as a good thing to do, because it forced those companies to dump hundreds of dollars into the economy. | Dec 30 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | It created paid work for people, it had all those knock-on effects, then I walked out of the store with hundreds of dollars in my pocket that I spend somewhere else. | Dec 30 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | And they can afford that. None of them pay their fucking taxes, so people should see opportunities like this and "Get 'em!". | Dec 30 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | So, I see couponing as a desirable and maybe even patriotic thing to do. It forces private business to stimulate the economy. | Dec 30 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | The government sure as hell isn't planning to do that. | Dec 30 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | The stores and manufacturers would lose money, and it would drive prices up, and then people will start going to stores that don't do heavy marketing and can keep their prices low. | Dec 30 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | Like ALDI. | Dec 30 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | In the short term, billions of dollars get flushed back out of the hands of millionaires and billionaires, and into the productive economy. | Dec 30 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | What's not to love? | Dec 30 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | In the short term, there's more work and more jobs, and in the long term, it would damage the marketing industry. | Dec 30 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Those are very desirable goals. | Dec 30 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, I already see that happening. | Dec 30 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone started redeeming their coupons all at once because of the recession, and the stores responded by cutting the value of their coupons and raising prices. | Dec 30 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Now, big companies like Kroger and Walmart are losing business. | Dec 30 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | I think Walmart's same store sales are down by like 3% this year. | Dec 30 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Investors respond negatively to that. Walmart resorts to gimmicks to keep the stock price high. | Dec 30 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | They are buying back shares. Eventually there won't be any to buy back, and they'll be left holding all of their own stock when the company tanks. | Dec 30 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | It'll be fucking beautiful. B-) | Dec 30 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | In the mean time, these gimmicks put lots of money into 401(k) and pension plans, and prop up worker retirement portfolios. | Dec 30 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | So, they're in a vicious cycle that's hurting them and benefiting nurses and teachers and factory workers. | Dec 30 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Etc. :) | Dec 30 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | They can't stop because it would cause their stock price to collapse. | Dec 30 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | They'd love to stop, they just can't. | Dec 30 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Share buy backs are the reason the stock market is riding high right now. | Dec 30 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | The Fed's policies have unintentionally doubled or tripled the value of retirement plans. | Dec 30 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | As long as you take your money and leave at the right time. It's hard to say what the right time is. | Dec 30 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | Take the money, pull your investment, sell your shares at the inflated price, and then invest in foreign companies where there's still the potential for growth. | Dec 30 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was having this discussion with a friend the other day when he mentioned that Social Security's "trust fund" is like a ponzi scam. | Dec 30 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | I told him that it's even worse than that. I told him that any competent private investment broker that wanted to keep his job would beat inflation. | Dec 30 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | Social Security is limited to buying T-bills. | Dec 30 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | I said that if they quit buying T-bills and started buying TIPS, then it would hold its value against inflation, and assuming the government doesn't default, the government would owe more money to Social Security, and it would be solvent for another 15-20 years. | Dec 30 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | But that's exactly why they won't. The last thing they want is to owe Social Security even more money. :) | Dec 30 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | They're still trying to figure out how to steal the money it has on the books right now. | Dec 30 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> that it would stand in the way of humanity's plan of forcing nature into regulating the human population via the most drastic methods? :> | Dec 30 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | Alex Jones claims that everyone alive today could fit into Texas. | Dec 30 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | That's kind of a disturbing thought. | Dec 30 23:12 |
| DaemonFC | The only consistent way to make people more angry and violent than they already tend to be is to cram large numbers of them into small areas. | Dec 30 23:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3465850 | Dec 30 23:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #NSA has nearly complete #backdoor access to Apple's iPhone http://www.dailydot.com/politics/nsa-backdoor-iphone-access-camera-mic-appelbaum/ avoid #apple http://techrights.org/2013/12/30/boycott-apple/ | Dec 30 23:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.dailydot.com | The Daily Dot - The NSA has nearly complete backdoor access to Apple's iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gabgu ] | Dec 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | yes, everyone alive today could die in Texas | Dec 30 23:13 |
| schestowitz | "top lel" | Dec 30 23:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | More Reasons to Boycott Apple, Which Abuses Courts, Engages in Competition Crime, and Aids Espionage | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gabqm ] | Dec 30 23:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3463732 | Dec 30 23:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We need to push for social state of affairs where people, by using Windows or Mac OSuX, basically broadcast their ineptitude | Dec 30 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the United States still has lots of big empty states where there's basically nothing there. | Dec 30 23:13 |
| schestowitz | true | Dec 30 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Well, except some tax shelters and crazy people. | Dec 30 23:13 |
| schestowitz | they could fit in Texas | Dec 30 23:13 |
| schestowitz | but you could not feed them | Dec 30 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Like, South Dakota and Nebraska. | Dec 30 23:14 |
| schestowitz | not from within the state | Dec 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | and if you exterminate everything that's there, you'll find out that you kind of depended on it | Dec 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | like the rainforests | Dec 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | turns out humans need oxygen :> | Dec 30 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I saw something on Facebook the other day that you reminded me of. | Dec 30 23:14 |
| schestowitz | there's some nic echart which shows how small a place you could fir 7 billion people into if you extrapolate the density of some highly populated places like Singapore | Dec 30 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | If trees produced wifi signals, they'd be planting them everywhere. | Dec 30 23:14 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 30 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | But all they make is stupid old oxygen. | Dec 30 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 30 23:15 |
| schestowitz | Alex Jones ayas many stupid things, this ain't one of them | Dec 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | food also needs to be produced somewhere | Dec 30 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Well, with efficient population distribution, we could cut resource usage. | Dec 30 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | A lot. | Dec 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | yes, and we could let more people live at the cost of reducing quality of life for everyone | Dec 30 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | My uncle, the one that lives in a rural area in Georgia... He has to drive like 30 miles each way to the grocery store. | Dec 30 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | That's not very efficient. | Dec 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | somehow i'm not convinced that i want that. | Dec 30 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Who wants to drive 60 miles and burn three gallons of gas every time you need groceries? | Dec 30 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Or need to see a doctor. Or want to go out to eat.... Or, anything really... | Dec 30 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | So, like you'd expect, he wears out cars very quickly. | Dec 30 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | He racked up over 350,000 miles on his Honda, and it was only like 6 years old... | Dec 30 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | If you live in a city and you'er close to everything, it really helps to keep the miles off your car. | Dec 30 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | Mine's a 1996 and it only has 96,200 miles on it right now. | Dec 30 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | The former owner took fantastic care of it. The only real problem was when they went to park it and a brake line had rotted out. | Dec 30 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | They hit a parking post at like 5 miles an hour and there's a small piece missing from the grille. | Dec 30 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | Other than that, it's in excellent condition. | Dec 30 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | So, it's really not efficient to have people spread out like this. | Dec 30 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | The way that humans are behaving right now is like something from a bad game of The Sims. | Dec 30 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | Where you make all the wrong decisions, let things fall apart, allocate land and resources incorrectly... | Dec 30 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | There's parts of the Untied States where they could put enough solar panels to provide enough electricity for the entire country. | Dec 30 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | Instead, we just burn coal and poison everyone. | Dec 30 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't make any sense other than it's a really cheap thing to do. | Dec 30 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | It will have consequences shortly, but don't worry about that, that's like 20-30 years from now. :) | Dec 30 23:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85 | Dec 30 23:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | E85 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 30 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | "Use of gasoline in an engine with a high enough compression ratio to use E85 efficiently would likely result in catastrophic failure due to engine detonation." | Dec 30 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that's a problem. :\ | Dec 30 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | Oh well, at least people who used the wrong pump would know better next time. :D | Dec 30 23:28 |
| DaemonFC | E85 is more the result of perverse government incentives than an actual need or market demand. | Dec 30 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | At least, the way they produce it here. | Dec 30 23:30 |
| MinceR | aren't those engines new enough to adjust to the octane rating of the fuel they use? | Dec 30 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, but they're designed to run on gasoline or E85, so they're not as efficient at using E85 as they could be. | Dec 30 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | If you made an engine that could burn E85 with high efficiency, then putting straight gasoline into it would cause it to explode. | Dec 30 23:33 |
| MinceR | ic | Dec 30 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | That's what the Wikipedia article is saying. | Dec 30 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm still debating on whether or not to make the switch to 5w20 motor oil. | Dec 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Ford Motor Company says my car can use it, but Ford Motor Company isn't on the hook to pay me for my loss if it causes premature engine failure. | Dec 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | And Ford Motor Company has an incentive to trash engines in cars that are already out there and paid off, so that Ford Motor Company can sell more new cars. | Dec 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | So, I'm not sure that Ford Motor Company's advice is good advice for me. | Dec 30 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Ford Motor Company advises owners to do everything necessary to make it out of the warranty period, and that's about it. | Dec 30 23:36 |
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| DaemonFC | The warranty on my car expired in 1999, so they have no reason to give a shit about what happens to my car. | Dec 30 23:36 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 30 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | So, does anyone know if using 5w20 is a good idea or not? | Dec 30 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard that it can bring your gas mileage up by about 2%. | Dec 30 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | If it doesn't significantly increase engine wear, that's a good deal, because it costs the same per quart as the 5w30 that I use. | Dec 30 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | So, it would be like paying about 7-8 cents less per gallon of gas. | Dec 30 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | If their claims are true.... | Dec 30 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sort of on the fence about this one. | Dec 30 23:38 |
| schestowitz | Personal attacks, irrespective of whether it's true or not: http://sambiddle.kinja.com/paul-graham-writing-about-women-on-his-website-1491875959 | Dec 30 23:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | sambiddle.kinja.com | Paul Graham Writing About Women on His Website [ http://ur1.ca/gabu7 ] | Dec 30 23:43 |
| schestowitz | I mean, attack on PG | Dec 30 23:43 |
| schestowitz | not on women | Dec 30 23:43 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmmm. It seems that the Dollar Tree store lowered their price on my allergy pills. So, between two medications I only saved $12.95 over the next year. | Dec 31 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why Walmart hasn't reduced their price on Cetirizine. | Dec 31 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's still priced at what it always was. | Dec 31 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | The price really collapsed on that stuff when it went OTC, then again when the patent ran out, and then again as more suppliers started making it. | Dec 31 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | It went from $5 per pill to 5 cents per pill. | Dec 31 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | A 99% reduction. | Dec 31 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 31 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ping still about? | Dec 31 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | I was reading an article posted to Facebook that said they have no idea why the government's costs to run Medicare are rapidly declining. | Dec 31 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Hacker Public Radio New Years pocast starting 10am this morning 31st December | Dec 31 01:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ending mid day tommorow new years day | Dec 31 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | That just shows how ludicrous it is to trust the Congressional Budget Office. | Dec 31 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | maybe you should come on to | Dec 31 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | ,but got to do it via Mumble | Dec 31 01:05 |
| sebsebseb | and you goblin_ if you can and time and yeah :D | Dec 31 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | They projected that Medicare costs would increase over the next 10 years at the same average rate they grew over the last 10 years. Instead, what happened was that lots of drugs lost their patent protections, and the sequester lowered physician and hospital reimbursement rates by 2% from last year's levels. | Dec 31 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | So Medicare is now covering more people *and* the total cost is declining. | Dec 31 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | So, if the CBO can't even predict what will happen next year, there's no reason to think that their ten year projections are believable. | Dec 31 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | There were other cost reductions to Medicare in Obamacare. It cut the reimbursement rate for name brand-only drugs in half, punished hospitals with high re-admission rates, and then increased the budget to the Office of Inspector General to combat fraud. | Dec 31 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | They also stopped automatically paying for those $2,500 power chairs every time they got a request, and started looking into whether they're actually necessary on a case by case basis. | Dec 31 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | So, lots of good stuff. And Obama actually ended up keeping that promise that none of the cost savings would eat into beneficiary benefits. | Dec 31 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'd expect to see that Medicare cost increases will be in line with overall inflation rates for the next 10 years. Those charts that the Republicans were pointing at with their little pointy sticks that showed the cost of the program doubling can go away now. | Dec 31 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | They were discussing turning it into a needs-based program, but it already is one. | Dec 31 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | The very poor pay nothing in premiums, the middle class pays about $150 a month, and the rich pay nearly $800. | Dec 31 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone over 65 qualifies, but your premiums go up with your income. | Dec 31 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans passed a law in 1997 that created for-profit insurance programs that take Medicare dollars as the premium. People over 65 can enroll in those. Not surprisingly, the mortality rate of patients that chose the for-profit alternative is much higher. | Dec 31 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | You're dealing with an insurance company that makes more money if they kill you. So, why wouldn't the mortality rate be higher? | Dec 31 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | So, most people that chose those programs said that they were "very dissatisfied" and went back to Original Medicare ASAP, and at least several of those companies have been repeatedly fined for defrauding the government. | Dec 31 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | But the fines didn't exceed their profits, so they keep doing it. | Dec 31 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | Every so often, the government comes along and slaps them on the wrist and says "Now, now!". | Dec 31 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | I've studied the healthcare systems of many developed countries, out of curiosity. | Dec 31 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | The closest thing I could find to our new system is the one that they have in Switzerland. | Dec 31 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | But, the Swiss one is better. Everyone basically gets a minimum standard of care from the government, and then they can go out and buy add-on policies from private companies if they want that. | Dec 31 01:19 |
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| DaemonFC | Here, you just get some money from the government if your income is low, and then you're on your own. | Dec 31 01:19 |
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| DaemonFC | The corporate media is now trying to portray the Democratic Party as being in "shambles" because the few real progressives are becoming loud enough that it is starting to disturb some of them. | Dec 31 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | They're calling us the left-wing Tea Party. I figured they would, but I thought they'd start doing that sooner. | Dec 31 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I did complain to the people that maintain their website back in 2008 and again in 2012. | Dec 31 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | They were streaming the convention in Silverlight, and then they switched to Flash. | Dec 31 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | I had to wait several days until someone put it on Youtube. | Dec 31 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Have you written anything about that project that's started to make it possible to use Microsoft's Windows silverlight plugin in Firefox on GNU/Linux? | Dec 31 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | Is there a reason anyone would want to do that, or is it Microsoft-by-proxy trying to resurrect Silverlight? | Dec 31 01:25 |
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| MinceR | it's probably still encumbered with the same patents | Dec 31 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link via Hardball with Chris Matthews. | Dec 31 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/stockman-clean-your-gun-liberal-tears | Dec 31 01:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.msnbc.com | Steve Stockman's gun cleaning suggestion: 'Liberal tears' | MSNBC [ http://ur1.ca/gacdh ] | Dec 31 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | This Republican reminds me of that Mason Verger character on the movie Hannibal. A disgusting child molester who drank martinis with children's tears in them. | Dec 31 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | He's recommending that right-wing gun nuts clean out their assault rifles with the tears from "liberals" who are crying because of....dead children that were murdered with assault rifles that they were allowed to buy because of gun deregulation made possible by right-wing nutcases. | Dec 31 01:30 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, think about this for a moment. | Dec 31 01:30 |
| MinceR | is it a good idea to clean rifles with water? | Dec 31 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think so, but he's stupid. | Dec 31 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | Stupid, crazy, and crooked. The three requirements of being a Republican politician. Although, they sometimes bend the rules if you don't have one of those traits, but double down on one of the others. | Dec 31 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/30/1258376/-How-has-your-generation-voted?detail=facebook | Dec 31 01:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: How has your generation voted? [ http://ur1.ca/gace8 ] | Dec 31 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | I've never voted for a Republican. | Dec 31 01:34 |
| MinceR | neither have i. :> | Dec 31 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | The Republican base is literalyl dying of old age. | Dec 31 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | They'll be totally screwed pretty soon. | Dec 31 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | Their path to 270 electoral votes is becoming more difficult. | Dec 31 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | The Democratic Party has basically retaken Virginia for the first time since Reconstruction, and they're getting ready to take North Carolina as well. | Dec 31 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | After that, it will be Georgia, then eventually Texas. | Dec 31 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that the Republican candidate will win Georgia in 2016, but lose it in 2020 or 2024. | Dec 31 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | There's a growing portion of Georgia that supports the Democrats. The Republicans are still trying to quarantine it with gerrymandering. | Dec 31 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | The fundamentals of Indiana aren't projected to change too much. Obama won Indiana by a sliver in 2008 because so many people were disgusted and pissed off at Bush, but that didn't last long. | Dec 31 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | A Democrat can win a statewide election in Indiana, but they have to manage to peel off about 12-15% of the voters that identify as Republican, which explains Joe Donnelly. | Dec 31 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't really want Donnelly, but I voted for him. | Dec 31 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | The other guy was calling Social Security unconstitutional and saying that pregnancy by rape was something God intended. | Dec 31 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | That's how bad they have to get to make Indiana say "Whoa! Wait a minute!" | Dec 31 01:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 31 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | So, Donnelly might very well lose his seat in 2018 unless the Republicans can come up with another guy that says "RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE! JESUS!" for the last three months of the campaign. | Dec 31 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | He's going to have to vote against the party basically every time there's a controversial issue that comes up, where the Democrats have a few votes to spare. | Dec 31 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | shared The Other 98%'s photo. | Dec 31 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/p526x296/940810_735063269837987_186317441_n.jpg | Dec 31 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | They wouldn't lend me money for a car, and I have a FICO rating of 699. That's how hard it is to get a loan. They can make money with no risk by parking "excess reserves" at their account with the Fed, instead of lending the money and taking a risk. | Dec 31 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not a "bad risk". Statistically, only about 2-3% of people with my credit rating will default on a credit card or an auto loan. | Dec 31 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | They know that and they still won't lend me money. | Dec 31 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | My VantageScore credit rating (second most common after FICO) is B+. | Dec 31 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | I got totally wiped out in 2009 because of a hospital bill, and that sank my A+ credit rating to a D-. | Dec 31 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | That was why the bank said they denied my car loan. | Dec 31 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | Basically, your credit rating has to be very nearly spotless or no loan. | Dec 31 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | So, I'll have to wait for that item to fall off. That should happen in November of 2016. | Dec 31 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | The more it ages, the higher your FICO and Vantage Score, but as long as lenders can even see it, don't count on a loan. | Dec 31 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | And it makes no difference whether you pay it off or not. | Dec 31 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, paying on it would make things even worse. Because it would show up as a paid account, but as new activity, and then I'd have to wait until 2020 for it to fall off. | Dec 31 01:51 |
| Sosumi | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kungfury/kung-fury | Dec 31 01:51 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 31 01:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.kickstarter.com | KUNG FURY by Laser Unicorns — Kickstarter [ http://ur1.ca/gacfz ] | Dec 31 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm biding my time. I'm trying to avoid any fresh marks. When that falls off, my FICO should be close to 800. | Dec 31 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | In the mean time, I'm using my credit cards and paying them off in full each month. | Dec 31 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/08/expensive-oil-changes-are-here-to-stay.html | Dec 31 01:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.cars.com | Expensive Oil Changes Are Here to Stay - KickingTires [ http://ur1.ca/gacgt ] | Dec 31 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | Mom's friend at work bought a BMW and then found out that the oil changes are $100. | Dec 31 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 31 01:58 |
| DaemonFC | I can drive my Ford down to my favorite local garage and get my oil changed for $20. | Dec 31 01:59 |
| DaemonFC | I could change it myself but it wouldn't be any cheaper. Those shops only make a few bucks. They do them so they can give the car a once over and tell you about repairs that need to be made. | Dec 31 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | If it's something stupid, I just say no and leave with my $20 oil change. | Dec 31 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | There wouldn't be any harm in using 5w20 in those cars that demand 0w20. | Dec 31 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason you do it is if the car is under warranty and you want to prove you did everything the way they say you have to. | Dec 31 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | Once the car is out of warranty, switch to 5w20 and save yourself $80 on every change. | Dec 31 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | 0w20 is expensive because only a few companies are making it, and it's a full synthetic. | Dec 31 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | I run whatever's a good name brand and on sale. Right now I'm using Valvoline because I got a rebate offer, but I'll switch back to Quaker State next time. | Dec 31 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | The oil change was $35 (because it was good on their semi-synthetic), but the $15 rebate brought it down to $20. | Dec 31 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | I research these things because I want to know what I'm putting in my engine. B-) | Dec 31 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | The independent lab tests have shown that there's not that much difference in wear or sludge between the major brands. | Dec 31 02:06 |
| DaemonFC | They all have to meet the same standards, so it's not surprising that they're all about the same. | Dec 31 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | The price isn't. :) | Dec 31 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen Valvoline as high as $3.99 per quart and I've seen Quaker State as low as $1. | Dec 31 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | Tim told me about the awful experience he had with a Volkswagon Jetta. | Dec 31 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | He said the oil changes were $70, the windshield wiper blades were $36 each and you could only get them fro ma dealer. | Dec 31 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | It's just too damned expensive to drive one of these imports. | Dec 31 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | They're good on gas, but they nickel and dime you everywhere else. | Dec 31 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, and the heater core on my mom's friend's BMW just went out and the shop says they think they can fix it for $800. | Dec 31 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | I had the same thing go out on my Taurus and the bill at the shop was like $390 or something like that. | Dec 31 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You see BMW dealerships EVERYWHERE around here. | Dec 31 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | And Volkswagon. | Dec 31 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | They're not good cars. | Dec 31 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | If you talk to 10 people who have owned one, you'll probably have at least 8-9 of them tell you "Don't buy one.". | Dec 31 02:17 |
| MinceR | neither are fords. :> | Dec 31 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | At least the Fords are cheap to maintain or fix. | Dec 31 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | When something happens, I'd rather be handed a bill for $390 than $800. | Dec 31 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 31 02:17 |
| DaemonFC | But, you get that with "luxury cars". | Dec 31 02:18 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 31 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | The same parts on a Mercury Grand Marquis or a Lincoln Town Car (up level versions of my Crown Victoria) are more expensive. | Dec 31 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | Just because they call it a Mercury or a Lincoln instead of a Ford. | Dec 31 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | They make a lot of the parts just different enough that you can't use the ones for a Crown Vic. | Dec 31 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Some are the same part, but they have two part numbers. | Dec 31 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | One is more expensive than the other, and dealers won't use the cheaper part. | Dec 31 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | I was totally intending to buy a 1999 Mercury Sable LS, but they sold it before I got there. | Dec 31 02:20 |
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| DaemonFC | They were signing the papers to someone that got to the dealer right before I did. I watched them do it. That was disappointing. | Dec 31 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | Perfect shape. Only 90,000 miles on it. | Dec 31 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My stepdad doesn't like Ford cars, but loves their trucks. | Dec 31 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | I keep telling him that I will only ever buy a Ford car. He says there's something wrong with me. :) | Dec 31 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | I swore I'd never own another GM vehicle after what that Chevrolet Corsica did to me. | Dec 31 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | It was always something, and then it threw a rod. | Dec 31 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | Never did a month go by without SOMETHING happening to it. | Dec 31 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | Other than the constant repair bills, it was an alright car. | Dec 31 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | Decent gas mileage, good acceleration. Surprisingly comfortable considering it had the EPA designation "Subcompact". | Dec 31 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | They stopped making them because government safety regulations changed. | Dec 31 02:24 |
| MinceR | maybe it was only comfortable in the front :> | Dec 31 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | The government declared that they were not safe enough in a side impact collision. | Dec 31 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | That never really scares me too much. If one of these SUVs or F-350s hits you one the side, it's probably game over. | Dec 31 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | *on | Dec 31 02:25 |
| MinceR | that's why you need a big, tough car, too :> | Dec 31 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the Crown Victoria is a pretty big car. | Dec 31 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | You can't get a Ford car with a V8 anymore, unless you buy a Mustang. | Dec 31 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | They used the same engine I have in my Crown Victoria in the 1996 Mustang. | Dec 31 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | They made some performance mods though. | Dec 31 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | Dual exhaust and so on. | Dec 31 02:27 |
| MinceR | how does dual exhaust help performance? | Dec 31 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Because there's a bigger air intake on the opposite end of the car as well. :) | Dec 31 02:28 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 31 02:28 |
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| DaemonFC | It doesn't make a huge difference though. | Dec 31 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | Without the dual exhaust mod, you have 210 hp and 270 foot pounds of torque | Dec 31 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | With the dual exhaust, you have 215 and 285. | Dec 31 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | The police interceptor had dual exhaust and some other mods. | Dec 31 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | Different PCM programming. | Dec 31 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | It was rated at 250 and 297. | Dec 31 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | But it got horrible gas mileage. | Dec 31 02:31 |
| MinceR | such mods also reduce life expectancy, don't they? | Dec 31 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | A friend of mine owns one. I asked him why he never drives it anywhere. He said he only gets about 10 mpg in town, and about 16 on the highway. | Dec 31 02:31 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose they could. | Dec 31 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | The police get rid of them at 100,000 miles. | Dec 31 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | But what the police do to them probably puts more wear and tear on the engine than the mods themselves. | Dec 31 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | The odometer might only read 100,000, but they've probably had the car on 24 hours a day between three shifts. | Dec 31 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | And when they were running it, it was to chase speeders and other stuff like that. | Dec 31 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | So they'd just floor it. They don't worry about fucking up the car. | Dec 31 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | They can always sell it at auction and make us buy them another one. :) | Dec 31 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They're the government! :) | Dec 31 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | The government doesn't have government money, they have your money. | Dec 31 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | And since you're paying, there's some things they'd like you to buy. :) | Dec 31 02:34 |
| MinceR | no, there's some things they _will_ buy with your money | Dec 31 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 31 02:35 |
| MinceR | and if they run out of money, they'll just squeeze you some more | Dec 31 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Exactly! | Dec 31 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | That's why I voted against the property tax caps. | Dec 31 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone went and voted for the caps, then they're pissed off that the sales tax went up and so did all their utility bills. | Dec 31 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Well fucking duh.... | Dec 31 02:36 |
| MinceR | it seems that governments just can't decrease their spending | Dec 31 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | It never happens. | Dec 31 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | When they do decrease spending, it's on the poor and middle class. | Dec 31 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then they increase their taxes. | Dec 31 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | The rich pay nothing. The corporations pay nothing. | Dec 31 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | The corporations get more subsidies than people get in welfare. | Dec 31 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | Many many many times over. | Dec 31 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | Each year, the federal government subsidizes housing for the rich at about $100 billion. | Dec 31 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | They spend about $60 billion on affordable housing for the poor. | Dec 31 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the $100 billion comes from the mortgage interest deduction. | Dec 31 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | They let you deduct however much you paid in interest on your mortgage from your federal taxable income. | Dec 31 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | But, renters get no deduction at all. | Dec 31 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | So the difference between paying $600 a month in rent and $600 a month on a mortgage is that you get to deduct a couple hundred a month from your gross taxable income if it's a mortgage. | Dec 31 02:39 |
| MinceR | is it still worth renting a home? | Dec 31 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | The government says it's to promote home ownership, but it doesn't. Not when the banks do what they do. | Dec 31 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah. If you're like me and the banks won't speak to you. | Dec 31 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | You have no other choice. | Dec 31 02:40 |
| MinceR | ic | Dec 31 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | Some landlords will agree to do rent to own. | Dec 31 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | It amounts to a VERY high interest mortgage. | Dec 31 02:40 |
| MinceR | and that's still not deductible, is it? | Dec 31 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | Nope, because it's an installment payment on your contract, not a mortgage. | Dec 31 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 31 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | So, the only way to get affordable rent is to make so little money that you qualify... | Dec 31 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | Fine, most people do, especially the ones that find jobs nowadays. | Dec 31 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | But, since the government devotes so little to rent subsidies, the waiting lists are often 5-6 years long. | Dec 31 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | Or closed entirely. | Dec 31 02:42 |
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| DaemonFC | So the program is there, but it only is funded enough to help less than half the people who qualify. | Dec 31 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | In the mean time, these rich people are getting to deduct their mortgage interest. | Dec 31 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | all of them | Dec 31 02:43 |
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| DaemonFC | And the subsidies for the rich homeowners is not an expense that the government can budget. | Dec 31 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | As long as there are no limits on the price of a home, there's no limits on the deduction. | Dec 31 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | So the government can't cap their loss at $100 billion. If home prices go up 50%, then so does the amount of money they lose on the deduction. | Dec 31 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | So they're writing out a blank check for lost income, to people that can afford that house fine without the deduction. | Dec 31 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | Then they tell the people on Section 8 Housing to brace themselves for another round of cuts. | Dec 31 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | The tax laws are so awful that if you do your own taxes, you're probably not getting all of your deductions, but most people on the lower end of the income scale will pay more to have them professionally prepared than they'll lose by not itemizing and taking the standard deduction. | Dec 31 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | Tax preparation services are like $80-100. You can do them yourself for free. | Dec 31 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | If you pay $100 and get another $50 on your refund, you're still out $50. :) | Dec 31 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | So, the people that miss out on the most money they're owed are the poor. | Dec 31 02:49 |
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| DaemonFC | So if you have 50 million people that each lose $50, the government takes in another $2.5 billion every year that they get to keep. | Dec 31 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | And that's just the federal government. | Dec 31 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | They audit returns at random, but they only notify you if you owe them money. | Dec 31 02:54 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 31 03:16 |
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| DaemonFC | Tim texted me. Said he wants to grab something to eat when he gets here. | Dec 31 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | I told him the choices are down to Taco Bell or going to the gas station to get some junk food. :P | Dec 31 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | Taco Bell probably gets a lot of business after 11 PM. They're the only restaurant in the entire town that's open. | Dec 31 03:53 |
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| Sosumi | since I mentioned darwin's origin of the species by means of natural selection | Dec 31 08:14 |
| Sosumi | and that evolution theory came later | Dec 31 08:14 |
| Sosumi | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531397/Shocking-study-reveals-A-THIRD-Americans-dont-believe-Evolution.html | Dec 31 08:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailymail.co.uk | ONE THIRD of Americans don't believe in evolution | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gadp6 ] | Dec 31 08:14 |
| Sosumi | by being the dailymail, it's already subject of laugher | Dec 31 08:14 |
| Sosumi | but lol | Dec 31 08:14 |
| Sosumi | schestowitz: quoting from twitter "Once upon a time #Arstechnica did not have moles and did have journalism." | Dec 31 08:14 |
| Sosumi | once upon a time, arstechnica had a dedicated page for everything "open source" | Dec 31 08:15 |
| Sosumi | ans also had a dedicated page which covered legal aspects in the tech business, etc | Dec 31 08:15 |
| Sosumi | but they sadly did with that away when they redesigned their website to the current format | Dec 31 08:15 |
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| -mist-[Festive Global Notice] The year 2014 will soon be kicking in in some parts of the world! Join us in #freenode-newyears for fun and festivity! (Yes, there may be more comedy globals over the period, complaints to /dev/null you moaning ninnies) | Dec 31 10:01 | |
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| smartass | good morning | Dec 31 10:55 |
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| -RichiH-[Global Notice] a very grumpy dan408_ has requested, and confirmed, that he does not, quote, "receive enough msgs as well". he wants _you_ to fix that. do not ask me why, but have at it, i guess | Dec 31 11:45 | |
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| Sosumi | smartass, good morning VIETNAM!!! | Dec 31 14:40 |
| Sosumi | now the weather for today | Dec 31 14:40 |
| Sosumi | extra crispy with a slight chance for carpet bombing | Dec 31 14:42 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile, today is going to be a slow day | Dec 31 14:43 |
| Sosumi | everything is closing up around here at 15 | Dec 31 14:43 |
| Sosumi | for new year commemorations | Dec 31 14:43 |
| Sosumi | if they actually had some sense, they'd with to have 2004 played on a loop | Dec 31 14:44 |
| Sosumi | *wish | Dec 31 14:44 |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/418046079465447424 | Dec 31 15:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Internet #Censorship is Expanding Worldwide and We Need Free Software to Fight Back http://t.co/9wDkT5rIGr #www #freespeech #uk | Dec 31 15:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Internet Censorship is Expanding Worldwide and We Need Free Software to Fight Back | Techrights | Dec 31 15:50 |
| roy_ | MinceR: we become luike Hungary now | Dec 31 15:50 |
| -mist-[New Year Festive Notice] About 10 minutes to go until new year hits Malaysia, bits of China, and finishes sweeping through Oz. Cast greetings out in #freenode-newyears! | Dec 31 15:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | Sosumi, If you want to get technical, the extinctions that humans are causing is natural. | Dec 31 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Humans came from nature. | Dec 31 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uah0SPt3Zwc | Dec 31 21:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Comix Zone Music Night of Mutants - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gagyi ] | Dec 31 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | good cover | Dec 31 21:01 |
| Sosumi | but humans are the only animal with the capacity to change/modify/adapt nature to his needs | Dec 31 21:34 |
| Sosumi | so in a sense human activity is the main adaptive force around | Dec 31 21:34 |
| Sosumi | causing species who can't adapt to the new paradigm | Dec 31 21:34 |
| Sosumi | to go extinct | Dec 31 21:34 |
| Sosumi | simple as that | Dec 31 21:34 |
| Sosumi | but even then | Dec 31 21:35 |
| Sosumi | this planet wont last forever | Dec 31 21:35 |
| Sosumi | and the humans, as superior being on this planet must make everything to make sure he survives | Dec 31 21:35 |
| Sosumi | and doesn't go down when the main suporter of life, disappears | Dec 31 21:36 |
| Sosumi | aka sun turns hostile, asteroid impact, pandemic, depleted resources | Dec 31 21:36 |
| Sosumi | that is why I advocate spreading through to multiple planets, well at least for now colonize the solar system | Dec 31 21:37 |
| Sosumi | and then spread | Dec 31 21:37 |
| Sosumi | which would create redundancy in the livestock | Dec 31 21:37 |
| Sosumi | spreading risk around, instead of concentrating it into a single point | Dec 31 21:40 |
| Sosumi | also anandtech reviewed the sodacan pro | Dec 31 21:40 |
| Sosumi | the top card is just a heavily underclocked r800 | Dec 31 21:41 |
| Sosumi | http://www.anandtech.com/show/7603/mac-pro-review-late-2013/10 | Dec 31 21:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | The Mac Pro Review (Late 2013) [ http://ur1.ca/gah2d ] | Dec 31 21:42 |
| Sosumi | so in the end you're paying for an underclocked r800 (650MHz vs 850MHz core clocks, everything else is also down) | Dec 31 21:43 |
| Sosumi | with 6GB vram instead of the reference 3GB, rebranded as FirePro (remember there is no distinction between workstation cards and gaming cards on OSX) | Dec 31 21:44 |
| Sosumi | and no ECC support | Dec 31 21:45 |
| Sosumi | big joke and sad Anand goes on congratulating the thing, plain sad | Dec 31 21:46 |
| Sosumi | so is it a workstation or just a small desktop that is half portable and with some "kewl" design | Dec 31 21:46 |
| Sosumi | maybe IF I carried it in a backpack in backpack with an UPS with and connected some steroscopic 3d glasses to it and a brain sensor | Dec 31 21:48 |
| Sosumi | that wouldn't be bad to make what google glass should have been | Dec 31 21:49 |
| Sosumi | or at least to serve as test bed for the concept software | Dec 31 21:49 |
| Sosumi | to the present and ask for zee monies | Dec 31 21:50 |
| Sosumi | ofc all I just said reeks of ghost in the shell | Dec 31 21:51 |
| Sosumi | :) | Dec 31 21:51 |
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| Sosumi | http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/mac/MacPro2013/CPUGPU7zip.png | Dec 31 23:08 |
| Sosumi | the trashcan isn't able to deal with heat | Dec 31 23:08 |
| Sosumi | for prolonged time | Dec 31 23:09 |
| Sosumi | reaching 88 ºC on the GPU side and 99ºC on the cpu side | Dec 31 23:09 |
| MinceR | crApple could never get cooling right | Dec 31 23:10 |
| Sosumi | they had it right on the old tower | Dec 31 23:10 |
| MinceR | the crApple III melted itself, though | Dec 31 23:10 |
| Sosumi | maxed for prolonged times, my system never went past 40 ºc | Dec 31 23:11 |
| Sosumi | and that was with the quad core 2.93GHz nehalem xeon | Dec 31 23:12 |
| Sosumi | but even now with 3970x and a noctua nhd14 | Dec 31 23:13 |
| Sosumi | my cpu never goes past 45ºc | Dec 31 23:13 |
| Sosumi | under prolonged max use | Dec 31 23:13 |
| Sosumi | the gpus are kind of another story, | Dec 31 23:13 |
| Sosumi | but they tend to stay at 77ºc | Dec 31 23:14 |
| Sosumi | and the machine isn't loud at all | Dec 31 23:14 |
| Sosumi | my ups is louder | Dec 31 23:14 |
| Sosumi | my quad g5 was much louder | Dec 31 23:15 |
| Sosumi | if it wasn't for the 4 gpus, I'd say that it is more silent than my 2009 mac pro | Dec 31 23:15 |
| Sosumi | which was already silent | Dec 31 23:16 |
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| Sosumi | probably folks who'll buy the thing | Dec 31 23:17 |
| Sosumi | will be able to make some coffee | Dec 31 23:17 |
| Sosumi | while they're posting on facebook | Dec 31 23:17 |
| Sosumi | and a bigger joke | Dec 31 23:18 |
| Sosumi | cards are identified as hd7900 series on winblows | Dec 31 23:18 |
| Sosumi | just like I've been saying all around | Dec 31 23:19 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 31 23:19 |
| Sosumi | fail | Dec 31 23:19 |
| Sosumi | zee snake oil is too big with coffee heater pro | Dec 31 23:19 |
| Sosumi | there's plenty of bashing material in that review | Dec 31 23:25 |
| Sosumi | I hope it gets put to good use | Dec 31 23:26 |
| Sosumi | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1NzA | Dec 31 23:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] X Server Security Disaster: "It's Worse Than It Looks" [ http://ur1.ca/gahbj ] | Dec 31 23:29 |
| Sosumi | http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/12/30/steam-removes-game-order-of-war-challenge-from-user-libraries/ | Dec 31 23:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gahcu ] | Dec 31 23:47 |
| MinceR | another typical day for DRM | Dec 31 23:48 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 31 23:56 |
| Sosumi | wellcome to the you no longer own stuff but licence it for X time under X conditions | Dec 31 23:57 |
| -kloeri-[Global Notice] Happy new years to all those people following fST (or UTC) | Jan 01 00:04 | |
| Sosumi | and yes, it's 2014 | Jan 01 00:22 |
| Sosumi | no y2k yet | Jan 01 00:22 |
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| iophk | http://www.ixsystems.com/whats-new/megacore-freebsd-foundation-and-ixsystems-collaborate-to-further-the-cause-of-freebsd-development/ | Jan 01 18:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.ixsystems.com | MEGACORE: FreeBSD Foundation and iXsystems collaborate to further the cause of FreeBSD Development | iXsystems, Inc. [ http://ur1.ca/gaqdt ] | Jan 01 18:17 |
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| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jan/01/julian-assange-guest-on-radio-4 | Jan 01 18:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Julian Assange to be guest on Radio 4's Today programme | Media | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gaqfk ] | Jan 01 18:26 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 19:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gigaom.com | Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA backdoor claims — Tech News and Analysis | Jan 01 19:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 19:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <s-157> @matthew_d_green So NSA is capturing unencrypted crash reports | Jan 01 19:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <s-157> retweeted by from Windows computers? http://t.co/DA618sG8I4 | Jan 01 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.spiegel.de | Inside TAO: Targeting Mexico - SPIEGEL ONLINE | Jan 01 19:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <s-157> @ioerror | Jan 01 19:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | GRRR... | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | oops | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | dman it.. something is broken | Jan 01 19:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3456539 | Jan 01 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu Is Storing Wi-Fi Passwords in Clear Text by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Is-Storing-Wi-Fi-Passwords-in-Clear-Text-By-Default-412056.shtml too bad they can't hey basics right. #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jan 01 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Is Storing Wi-Fi Passwords in Clear Text by Default [ http://ur1.ca/g9uwa ] | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | I have to use Microsoft at work (by the way, the IT guys never approved Win8), and every time one of those little 'choice' boxes pops up "would you like to send a report to Microsoft?", I have always clicked 'no' for two reasons: 1) sending the report uses bandwidth and delays my getting back to what I was doing; 2) I didn't figure Microsoft was actually going to fix anything anyway. | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | I have no idea whether it makes a difference or not. | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Several years ago I read that they only use these for stats. IOW, they would wait until 1.5 million people send some similar report and then "look into it". other than that, it's a customer support PR stunt. Mozilla might be better and more worth supporting. | Jan 01 19:32 |
| schestowitz | "Over a rather short time. I seem to recall the punditocracy publishing op-eds and making appearances to vilify #OWS within a day or two of its start.' | Jan 01 19:33 |
| schestowitz | OWS threatened Wall Street, i.e. the wealthy; if plutocrats hate it, then it means it's very effective and we need more of the same. | Jan 01 19:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 19:34 |
| schestowitz | "Over time" sounds like it's a thing of the future. | Jan 01 19:34 |
| schestowitz | But it already happens. | Jan 01 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 19:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3467324 | Jan 01 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When was the last time a "terrorist" got caught at an airport? | Jan 01 19:34 |
| schestowitz | "That "terrorist": http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/18/glenn-greenwald-guardian-partner-detained-heathrow " | Jan 01 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Glenn Greenwald's partner detained at Heathrow airport for nine hours | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/f3oju ] | Jan 01 19:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3466104 | Jan 01 19:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: ### Remember Google StreetView? | Jan 01 19:35 |
| schestowitz | It's not only Google. In the consequence you need to avoid any big commercial provider and even then you can't be 'save'. Personally I agree with the opinion that there is no (more) a technical solution for a society problem..."" | Jan 01 19:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3466200 | Jan 01 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #cisco are filthy liars. In their public Web site they advertise back doors for authorities, now pretend, surprise! http://www.businessinsider.com/cisco-is-investigating-nsa-spying-claims-2013-12 | Jan 01 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.businessinsider.com | Cisco Is Investigating NSA Spying Claims - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gac2v ] | Jan 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz | ""Gawrsh, we had no idea they were going to use that back door we wrote for them."" | Jan 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3466145 | Jan 01 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now it's clearer why #appelbaum harassed, raided, under surveillance by the spooks http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/nsa-interception-pc-malware-134744 http://www.extremetech.com/computing/173721-the-nsa-regularly-intercepts-laptop-shipments-to-implant-malware-report-says | Jan 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz | "has been * &" | Jan 01 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techweekeurope.co.uk | NSA 'Intercepted PC Shipments To Install Malware' [ http://ur1.ca/gas2y ] | Jan 01 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.extremetech.com | The NSA regularly intercepts laptop shipments to implant malware, report says | ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/gas2z ] | Jan 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/418444985688543232/photo/1 | Jan 01 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @MatthewKeysLive: Just in: HP says it was unaware of information published in Der Spiegel article on NSA exploits - http://t.co/z1WeAzzhTB | Jan 01 19:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @MatthewKeysLive: Just in: HP says it was unaware of information published in Der Spiegel article on NSA exploits - http://t.co/z1WeAzzhTB | Jan 01 19:43 |
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| schestowitz__ | This is why BSD refuses to use Intel and VIA for random number generation. Some backdoors in hardware can be bypassed, esp. when you don't have specs for the hardware (it is proprietary) | Jan 01 20:40 |
| schestowitz__ | "Let raise a question, the local gov's are taking care of dayly public security,like homicides in all cities zones ??? and about drug traffic and so on.... the public security on dayly basis is being taking care or not.... ;)" | Jan 01 20:40 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3472271 | Jan 01 20:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Journalists have just been warned. Don't travel to the US (e.g. to do some journalism), especially if you challenge those in Power. | Jan 01 20:40 |
| MinceR | do they use AMD or some other manufacturer, then? :> | Jan 01 20:43 |
| Sosumi | wasn't it in 2003 or so | Jan 01 20:48 |
| Sosumi | when some compaq/hp laptops had their HDDs flashed with a malware infected image | Jan 01 20:50 |
| Sosumi | but you should never use the default factory image and always reset a new phone when actually go to install your stuff | Jan 01 20:51 |
| Sosumi | default image should only be used for testing purposes and never trusted | Jan 01 20:51 |
| Sosumi | who can say that some undercover worker at a manufactoring or assembling plant didn't bug the default software image that gets cloned into those devices | Jan 01 20:53 |
| Sosumi | I think that is all common sense | Jan 01 20:53 |
| Sosumi | and I've doing that since forever | Jan 01 20:54 |
| Sosumi | cisco backdoors have been known since forever | Jan 01 20:55 |
| Sosumi | but there aren't that many other choices around either | Jan 01 20:55 |
| Sosumi | at least here | Jan 01 20:55 |
| Sosumi | it's either cisco, huwei or some other chinese company | Jan 01 20:56 |
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| Sosumi | or TP-Link | Jan 01 20:57 |
| Sosumi | so in between the two, pick the one that smells less bad | Jan 01 20:57 |
| Sosumi | *in between the three | Jan 01 20:58 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131231/08562425723/this-clip-former-nsa-boss-michael-hayden-calling-snowden-traitor-is-brought-to-you-microsoft.shtml | Jan 02 04:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techdirt.com | This Clip Of Former NSA Boss Michael Hayden Calling Snowden A Traitor Is Brought To You By Microsoft | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/gayqa ] | Jan 02 04:39 |
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| iophk | http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/names/2014/01/01/customs-officials-destroys-flute-virtuoso-instruments/HRnFgh1FwIqY5n2FdoKlMN/story.html | Jan 02 08:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bostonglobe.com | Customs officials destroy flute virtuoso’s instruments - Names - The Boston Globe [ http://ur1.ca/gazer ] | Jan 02 08:06 |
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| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/not-so-anonymous-vpn-uses-edward-snowden-for-pr-140101/ | Jan 02 09:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Not So Anonymous VPN Uses Edward Snowden For PR | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gazn1 ] | Jan 02 09:00 |
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| iophk | http://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomainday/2014/pre-1976 | Jan 02 09:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | web.law.duke.edu | What Could Have Entered the Public Domain on January 1, 2014? [ http://ur1.ca/gagac ] | Jan 02 09:14 |
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| msb__ | schestowitz: "Journalists have just been warned. Don't travel to the US (e.g. to do some journalism), especially if you challenge those in Power." | Jan 02 09:47 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: Warned by whom? | Jan 02 09:47 |
| Sosumi | pffff, you don't travel to the US if your're a legit journalist | Jan 02 09:58 |
| Sosumi | or a computer cracker | Jan 02 09:58 |
| Sosumi | common sense says so | Jan 02 09:58 |
| Sosumi | and actually, if you're a computer cracker you also don't travel to countries that extradite to the US | Jan 02 09:59 |
| Sosumi | good thing portugal isn't one of those | Jan 02 09:59 |
| Sosumi | :) | Jan 02 09:59 |
| Sosumi | but that doesn't prevent some intelligence cell operating in your country to harass you | Jan 02 10:00 |
| Sosumi | *from harassing you | Jan 02 10:00 |
| *Sosumi slaps herself on the face in order to wake up | Jan 02 10:01 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 02 15:29 |
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| roy_ | This related to the latest news | Jan 02 15:53 |
| roy_ | court rules in favour of allowing border contorl/TSA to go through/copy contents of your phone/tablet/laptop, even without suspicoion | Jan 02 15:53 |
| roy_ | MinceR: ^^ | Jan 02 15:53 |
| roy_ | oops | Jan 02 15:53 |
| roy_ | msb__ I meant | Jan 02 15:53 |
| roy_ | [09:47] <msb__> schestowitz: "Journalists have just been warned. Don't travel to the US (e.g. to do some journalism), especially if you challenge those in Power." | Jan 02 15:54 |
| roy_ | [09:47] <msb__> schestowitz: Warned by whom? | Jan 02 15:54 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.anandtech.com/show/7604/asrock-m8/2 | Jan 02 16:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | ASRock M8 Barebones Review: My Steam Box [ http://ur1.ca/gb4es ] | Jan 02 16:15 |
| Sosumi | a nice looking steambox | Jan 02 16:15 |
| Sosumi | or whatever you want to make out of it | Jan 02 16:16 |
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| Sosumi | kind of confirmed | Jan 02 17:02 |
| Sosumi | some mods at macrumors are on apple's payroll | Jan 02 17:03 |
| Sosumi | as well some poster accounts | Jan 02 17:04 |
| Sosumi | judging the amount of damage control around anandtech's review around the thing failing on the stress tests | Jan 02 17:05 |
| Sosumi | and judging why the user Rominator which had already been banned once and then bandodged and created an account under the name of macvidcards | Jan 02 17:06 |
| Sosumi | has been banned again for telling the things how they are | Jan 02 17:06 |
| Sosumi | including workarounds, custom kexts, etc | Jan 02 17:07 |
| Sosumi | some other users posters are already missing or deleted | Jan 02 17:07 |
| Sosumi | and apparently from what I could guess from checking the forums now | Jan 02 17:08 |
| Sosumi | the lvl of IQ kind of lowered to retarded level | Jan 02 17:08 |
| Sosumi | and yes I'm still indefinitely banned | Jan 02 17:08 |
| Sosumi | whatever that means | Jan 02 17:08 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound like that site's worth wasting resources on | Jan 02 17:09 |
| Sosumi | not anymore | Jan 02 17:09 |
| Sosumi | it wasn't like that before too | Jan 02 17:09 |
| Sosumi | the actually good site for theorycraft | Jan 02 17:10 |
| Sosumi | was macresearch | Jan 02 17:10 |
| Sosumi | but that site died when crapple killed the xserve and the clustering tools | Jan 02 17:10 |
| Sosumi | but it shows how far they can go | Jan 02 17:16 |
| Sosumi | forum trolls, strict review guidelines | Jan 02 17:16 |
| Sosumi | even anand had to put a bit of lipstick on the pig | Jan 02 17:16 |
| Sosumi | so that the next time crapple doesn't forget about him | Jan 02 17:17 |
| Sosumi | just like they did to arstechnica, probably because of the rave of bad propaganda that comes out of there when it comes to the real pro reviews | Jan 02 17:18 |
| Sosumi | and how osx performs on programs like maya, cinema 4d, etc | Jan 02 17:18 |
| Sosumi | and benchmarks on the quadro cards behave on osx, linux and windows | Jan 02 17:19 |
| Sosumi | obvious-ly that osx always loses | Jan 02 17:19 |
| Sosumi | in another not an andrew cunnigham, John siracosa thing | Jan 02 17:20 |
| iophk | old - http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2009/11/04/One-third-of-US-youth-unfit-for-military/UPI-98691257317594/ | Jan 02 17:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.upi.com | One-third of U.S. youth unfit for military - UPI.com [ http://ur1.ca/gb4px ] | Jan 02 17:21 |
| MinceR | that's ok, they already have more military than they need | Jan 02 17:22 |
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| Sosumi | do you know what is the top paid app on the osx store? | Jan 02 18:31 |
| Sosumi | kasperski virus scan | Jan 02 18:31 |
| Sosumi | lol | Jan 02 18:31 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phonearena.com/news/Report-Only-5-of-Korean-LG-G2-owners-received-KitKat-update_id50828 | Jan 02 19:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phonearena.com | Report: Only 5% of Korean LG G2 owners received KitKat update [ http://ur1.ca/gb5a5 ] | Jan 02 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, LG only rolled out the Android 4.4 update to 5% of LG G2 owners in South Korea. | Jan 02 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | It disguised it as a normal update, even though it was really a beta test program. | Jan 02 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | They forced the update on those phones to see if they broke phones that customers who did not agree to participate in a beta testing program were using. | Jan 02 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 02 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | That's not cool. | Jan 02 19:24 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 02 19:25 |
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| DaemonFC | The Android 4.4 update is apparently causing increased battery drain, and bugs with the built-in Android web browser. | Jan 02 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | But LG has declared it "good" anyway, and plans to roll it out to everyone. | Jan 02 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | Are they nuts? | Jan 02 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | They have a phone that everyone loves. They're really going to ship broken firmware? | Jan 02 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | I do want 4.4, but they should delay it by a couple of weeks and fix those problems. | Jan 02 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | Android 4.4 seems to bring along a major performance boost for the system and applications over 4.2.2, but 4.2.2 is very stable. | Jan 02 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather have a phone that was 5-10% slower but didn't crash and guzzle the battery. | Jan 02 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | I decided to leave my tablet on Android 4.0.4, for the same reason. | Jan 02 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | Archos abandoned the G9 tablets there, and the unofficial firmware updates like Cyanogenmod will work, but they're known to break things. | Jan 02 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | The latest one even managed to break the camera *and* GPS. | Jan 02 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | I think what happened with LG is that they did a lot of work to make sure everything worked right with the original firmware, because that's the firmware that all the product review websites will be reviewing. | Jan 02 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Then the quality control standards plummet when it comes time to push upgrades. | Jan 02 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Of course it would be nicer if there was only one Android image for every device, that users could install themselves. | Jan 02 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | That manages to happen with PC operating systems. | Jan 02 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | There's too many device configurations out there with phones. Almost every major manufacturer even makes their own CPUs. | Jan 02 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | LG is going to start doing this with the LG G3. They're developing a CPU called ODIN. | Jan 02 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | "The Huntington County Sheriff's Department has been chosen as the Business of the Month by the Huntington County Chamber of Commerce." | Jan 02 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I suppose that sticking people with frivolous criminal charges and then letting them go if they can cough up thousands of dollars is a business of sorts. | Jan 02 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | It's called extortion. | Jan 02 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 02 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | Besides, the Huntington Country Sheriff's Department has been so good about picking up people who owe for-profit businesses money and sticking them in the Huntington County Jail, with criminals, over the weekend, with no notice that they have been sued, just to rattle them and make them too afraid to reject any repayment deal that the company (Usually Parkview Hospital) offers them. | Jan 02 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | Gary Snyder found that out. He paid his mortgage late, but the company already asked the judge (Heffelfinger) for a body attachment warrant, so he spent a Friday-Monday in jail a couple of years ago, over a mortgage payment that he had already paid. | Jan 02 19:44 |
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| _Goblin | Look on the bright side though DaemonFC he had free board and lodgings in a guest house for the weekend...that probably saved a few $ on his bills. | Jan 02 20:57 |
| Sosumi | been reading about gallium compute | Jan 02 20:57 |
| Sosumi | and it is still a no go | Jan 02 20:57 |
| _Goblin | I've been writing about francium. | Jan 02 20:57 |
| _Goblin | Unstable element you know... | Jan 02 20:57 |
| Sosumi | apparently amd has been doing good work implementing their opencl stuff | Jan 02 20:57 |
| Sosumi | but nvidia | Jan 02 20:58 |
| Sosumi | forget it | Jan 02 20:58 |
| _Goblin | I get FOSS being ideal for desktop computing or whatever.... What I don't get is the insistence that FOSS can compete with the commercial closed gaming industry.....it can't....sadly. | Jan 02 20:59 |
| Sosumi | it's nvidia not caring, as usual | Jan 02 20:59 |
| Sosumi | foss is great | Jan 02 20:59 |
| Sosumi | no need to suck up to anyone in order to get things fixed | Jan 02 20:59 |
| iophk | http://techland.time.com/2014/01/02/winamp-supposedly-saved-by-radionomy/ | Jan 02 21:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techland.time.com | Winamp Supposedly Saved by Radionomy | TIME.com [ http://ur1.ca/gb5qk ] | Jan 02 21:07 |
| Sosumi | I still have nightmares of submitting bug reports to apple and not getting anything fixed | Jan 02 21:07 |
| Sosumi | one of those bugs, which was the windowserver failing to load after a restart/cold-boot | Jan 02 21:07 |
| Sosumi | only got fixed 3 years later | Jan 02 21:08 |
| Sosumi | but don't worry, there are new ones | Jan 02 21:10 |
| Sosumi | like the creation and defaulting to a totally "derped" colorsync profile after you wake up the displays | Jan 02 21:11 |
| Sosumi | of which you need to go and manually delete | Jan 02 21:12 |
| Sosumi | and if you don't delete them, well, chances are that you're going to have a ton of random colorsync profiles for your displays | Jan 02 21:13 |
| Sosumi | if it also messes with your colorsync printer preferences I don't know | Jan 02 21:14 |
| Sosumi | since I have no printers configured into that machine | Jan 02 21:15 |
| Sosumi | but hey, that I know, no other OS does that | Jan 02 21:15 |
| Sosumi | and that again justifies the *cough* superiority of the *cough* macintosh | Jan 02 21:16 |
| Sosumi | but you don't see any of this on macrumors or appleinsider | Jan 02 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin, : No. They send you a bill for every day you're in jail now. | Jan 02 21:17 |
| Sosumi | users who post this kind of stuff are promptly shown the banhammer | Jan 02 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | And if they don't, they attach a fine to whatever you were charged with. It's in the plea agreement. | Jan 02 21:17 |
| Sosumi | also, fiat just bought chrysler | Jan 02 21:24 |
| Sosumi | wasn't chrysler owned by GM? | Jan 02 21:24 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/windows-8-x-breaks-10-percent-internet-explorer-11-makes-a-splash/ | Jan 03 01:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Windows 8.x breaks 10 percent, Internet Explorer 11 makes a splash | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gb6rr ] | Jan 03 01:47 |
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| Sosumi | IE still wins (lol) | Jan 03 01:48 |
| Sosumi | very small decrease in mobile safari usage with a very small increase in android browser | Jan 03 01:48 |
| Sosumi | hope that trend continues | Jan 03 01:49 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 03 02:45 |
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| schestowitz | Sosumi: lies | Jan 03 08:42 |
| schestowitz | they omit non-desktop | Jan 03 08:42 |
| schestowitz | typica | Jan 03 08:42 |
| schestowitz | typica L MS spin from Peter Microsoft Bright | Jan 03 08:42 |
| schestowitz | and CBS (MS -funded) | Jan 03 08:42 |
| schestowitz | [21:01] <_Goblin> I get FOSS being ideal for desktop computing or whatever.... What I don't get is the insistence that FOSS can compete with the commercial closed gaming industry.....it can't....sadly. | Jan 03 08:43 |
| schestowitz | FOSS in games is still a weak point | Jan 03 08:44 |
| schestowitz | not many people will have companies fund modificatrion to games like they would for apache | Jan 03 08:44 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: and I think as I've always said, FOSS gaming whilst it will exist, will not capture the imagination of the mainstream public like commercial offerings.... Funny that certain FOSS advocates away from here reviled me for those remarks.....seems I was right. What I would say though, for anyone with half a brain, it was obvious. | Jan 03 11:20 |
| _Goblin | I'd add by saying a commercial hold over gaming is not a good thing, but unless RMS can approve a FOSS version of something that approaches the appeal of say FIFA...I struggle to see the FOSS ethos being sold on any gamer. | Jan 03 11:21 |
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| MinceR | my favorite game is free software | Jan 03 12:41 |
| MinceR | then again, it's a genre that thrives on mods :> | Jan 03 12:42 |
| roy_ | LOL | Jan 03 13:39 |
| _Goblin | MinceR, whats the game? | Jan 03 13:39 |
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| iophk | http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/01/02/bob-swartz-losing-aaron/print/ | Jan 03 14:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bostonmagazine.com | Losing Aaron: Bob Swartz on MIT's Role in His Son's Death | Boston Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/gbfay ] | Jan 03 14:14 |
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| Sosumi | it's right on the 1st pie chart | Jan 03 14:21 |
| Sosumi | now if their information gathering is wrong or they are purposefully lying, I don't know that | Jan 03 14:22 |
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| Sosumi | nestle, selling bottled water that they didn't pay almost nothing for in the first place | Jan 03 16:06 |
| Sosumi | under the aquarel brand | Jan 03 16:06 |
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| MinceR | _Goblin: Xonotic | Jan 03 16:25 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3477901 | Jan 03 19:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1ODc #linux #bluray - for those who need to use physical storage not as 'consumers' | Jan 03 19:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Open-Source Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux [ http://ur1.ca/gbgoi ] | Jan 03 19:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Well, now you can." | Jan 03 19:55 |
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| Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkpHIB9VEuc | Jan 03 22:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Black Hat USA 2012 - Errata Hits Puberty: 13 Years of Chagrin - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gbhb4 ] | Jan 03 22:04 |
| Sosumi | worth watching | Jan 03 22:04 |
| Sosumi | about charlatans in the industry | Jan 03 22:05 |
| Sosumi | ofc M$, macafee and symantec top the ranks | Jan 03 22:08 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/1/4791354/samsung-rigging-benchmark-scores-galaxy-note-3 | Jan 03 22:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theverge.com | Samsung again caught rigging benchmark scores on Galaxy Note 3 | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/gbhcg ] | Jan 03 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung's devices overclock themselves long enough to run the benchmark, and then return the CPU to its normal operating speeds. | Jan 03 22:15 |
| Sosumi | lol samsung at it again | Jan 03 22:33 |
| Sosumi | I thought they had given up on that on the note | Jan 03 22:34 |
| MinceR | i think this is the same old news, isn't it? | Jan 03 22:38 |
| MinceR | apparently not | Jan 03 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Wouldn't it be less embarrassing to just admit your phone sucks and then design a better one next time? | Jan 03 22:44 |
| MinceR | afaict it's on par with its rivals without the cheating | Jan 03 22:48 |
| MinceR | making it an even stupider move, of course | Jan 03 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | The S4 is not on par with the Nexus 5 or LG G2 | Jan 03 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | They're newer and have newer processors, but the S4 is still on the market and is about the same price. | Jan 03 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why people would buy the slower phone at the same price. | Jan 03 22:50 |
| MinceR | i was referring to the note3 | Jan 03 22:50 |
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| MinceR | and newer phones being faster shouldn't be a surprise :> | Jan 03 22:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3479508 | Jan 03 22:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Hayden (CIA) thinks reporting crimes is "outrageous" http://t.co/648KosPopq probably just afraid people will blow whistle on him | Jan 03 22:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | Michael Hayden Calls Clemency For Snowden 'Outrageous,' Says It Sends 'Wrong Message' To Potential Whistleblowers | Techdirt | Jan 03 22:51 |
| schestowitz | "Why isn't Hayden up on treason charges for lying to Congress?" | Jan 03 22:52 |
| schestowitz | He would probably use the CIA to assassinate whoever tries to hold him accountable | Jan 03 22:52 |
| MinceR | (who would have thought that 4 arm cores at 2.26 GHz would be faster than 4 arm cores at 1.6 GHz?) | Jan 03 22:53 |
| MinceR | (if i'm not mistaken, this is the octa-core thing that wouldn't use more than 4 cores at the same time, perhaps because they couldn't dissipate that much heat) | Jan 03 22:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3476124 | Jan 03 22:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: | Jan 03 22:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by bratze@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_df0ec1483bde1ac870c1.gif | Jan 03 22:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by bratze@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_df0ec1483bde1ac870c1.gif | Jan 03 22:55 |
| schestowitz | "What's that dude in the background doing to that other dude...?" | Jan 03 22:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's not cool! | Jan 03 22:56 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 03 22:56 |
| schestowitz | http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/71751684734/serious-question-seriously-was-george-carlin-ever | Jan 03 22:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | lessig.tumblr.com | Lessig Blog, v2 [ http://ur1.ca/gbhky ] | Jan 03 22:58 |
| Sosumi | wait | Jan 03 23:17 |
| Sosumi | the note 3 uses the same snapdragon 800 as the G3 and nexus 5 | Jan 03 23:17 |
| Sosumi | in a 3GB ram package | Jan 03 23:17 |
| Sosumi | the s4 is the old device | Jan 03 23:18 |
| Sosumi | and they were caught cheating on that one first | Jan 03 23:18 |
| Sosumi | that was why I mentioned "that they were still cheating" | Jan 03 23:18 |
| Sosumi | *G2 | Jan 03 23:19 |
| MinceR | yeah, i eventually realized | Jan 03 23:21 |
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| Sosumi | schestowitz, what does BT stand for? | Jan 04 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link. | Jan 04 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Jan 04 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, LG doesn't have a voluntary beta testing program. If they want you to be a beta tester, they will forcibly update your working phone with unproven software. Boo! | Jan 04 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | While I'd like to see Android 4.4 for my G2 ASAP, it's improper to use paying customers that did not sign up for a beta testing program as unwilling participants in a beta testing program. | Jan 04 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that LG is ignoring their complaints of problems with the built-in web browser and increased battery usage, and plans to release this build to all LG G2 users anyway. It would be better if they nailed down the problems before sending the software out, even if it took an additional 2-3 weeks. Rushing out broken firmware to a phone that got five star reviews and costs over $600 is not going to make people want to return and buy the LG | Jan 04 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | G3 or G4 in the future. | Jan 04 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | Now I don't know whether to accept the update or delete the notification and continue using Android 4.2.2. I might just wait and see what it does to other people's phones before I jump in. | Jan 04 01:31 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how LG could screw up Android 4.4 so badly on their own G2 phone, when they did such an excellent job with Android 4.4 on the Nexus 5, which is basically the same phone. | Jan 04 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | The G2 is better in a couple of ways. | Jan 04 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | Better battery capacity and a slightly larger screen. | Jan 04 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think that they could just reuse the same ROM that they're using on the Nexus 5. | Jan 04 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | The hardware is basically the same. | Jan 04 01:40 |
| MinceR | they don't, though | Jan 04 01:41 |
| MinceR | the nexus 5 gets a mostly stock ROM | Jan 04 01:41 |
| MinceR | and the g2 gets a custom one with extra software features | Jan 04 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | The G2 seems to be mostly stock. | Jan 04 01:41 |
| MinceR | also, the g2 has a microsd card slot | Jan 04 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint added like one program to it though, that you can't remove. | Jan 04 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | I disabled it though. | Jan 04 01:42 |
| MinceR | afaik stock android doesn't support removable storage at all | Jan 04 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | You can opt-in to an advertisement system that screws Google and app developers over, and makes a ton of money for Sprint. | Jan 04 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 01:42 |
| MinceR | what about qslide and the rest? | Jan 04 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | I opted out and then disabled the program. | Jan 04 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | Is qslide not an Android feature? | Jan 04 01:43 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 04 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I suppose they also had to add their own enhancement to control the IR blaster. | Jan 04 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | The Nexus 5 doesn't have that. | Jan 04 01:43 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 04 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | OK, so it's basically stock android, but they added the qslide and IR blaster programs, and then Sprint added one piece of crapware that I disabled. | Jan 04 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | I could root the phone and delete that app, but then that would void my hardware warranty. | Jan 04 01:44 |
| MinceR | "AnswerMe (which automatically answers a call if the device is held up to a user's head), customizable on-screen buttons, Plug & Pop (which displays a menu of relevant apps when a headset or USB cable is plugged in), Guest Mode, Slide Aside (the ability to switch apps using a three-finger slide gesture that displays a row of cards), and TextLink (which provides options when text is copied depending on the content). The G2 also retains software feat | Jan 04 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | Disabling it frees the resources it was using and doesn't void the warranty. | Jan 04 01:45 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I haven't even seen AnswerMe, | Jan 04 02:59 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 04 02:59 |
| MinceR | neither have i. | Jan 04 03:00 |
| MinceR | (except on wikipedia) | Jan 04 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Sprint keeps annoying me, trying to do bill cramming. | Jan 04 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | I keep declining. | Jan 04 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | They offered me antivirus software for an extra $2.99 per month and voicemail transcription for $1.99 a month. | Jan 04 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see the point in having either one. | Jan 04 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | One of Google's lead Android developers said that Android antivirus programs were unnecessary and dishonest. Makes me wonder why Google tolerates them in the Play store. | Jan 04 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | There's not that much malware for Android. Most of it is kept out of the Play store. The "better" antivirus software that does exist misses two out of three malicious apps. | Jan 04 03:02 |
| MinceR | they probably don't consider them a threat to google | Jan 04 03:02 |
| MinceR | or to android | Jan 04 03:02 |
| MinceR | also, removing them could lead to backlash. | Jan 04 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the Android section on The Pirate Bay is full of malicious apps. | Jan 04 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | But you'd kind of expect that. | Jan 04 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | Google does a good job of keeping it out of their own store. | Jan 04 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why removing apps that don't do anything except defraud you of money and make your phone run slower would lead to backlash against Google. :) | Jan 04 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | Those antivirus apps fit the definition of malware. | Jan 04 03:04 |
| MinceR | because some people don't believe google when they say antivirus software is unnecessary | Jan 04 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | They scare you into paying them, make your phone run slower, and steal your personal info and send it back to the developer. :) | Jan 04 03:04 |
| MinceR | they would see it as a pro-malware move | Jan 04 03:04 |
| MinceR | do the big name "antivirus" apps really do that, though? | Jan 04 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pretty sure that they do. | Jan 04 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard people complain about AVG and Lookout bogging their phones down. | Jan 04 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | So it seems like you get the "Windows" experience on Android now, if you install those apps. :) | Jan 04 03:06 |
| MinceR | i mean, do they send personal info to the developer? | Jan 04 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | Their Windows programs do. | Jan 04 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | Why wouldn't their Android apps do the same thing? | Jan 04 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | The basic level of functionality is free with the Windows app, but the main point of the free version is to scare you into buying the full version. | Jan 04 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | They'll say that you're not protected against identity theft or some nonsense like that. | Jan 04 03:09 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 04 03:10 |
| MinceR | then again, google can't really complain about apps sending personal info to the developer, can they? :) | Jan 04 03:11 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 04 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | The irony was not lost on me when two antivirus companies based in the Czech Republic claim to require your credit card number in order to protect you from identity fraud. | Jan 04 04:03 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3479918 | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The rise of GNU/Linux-powered mobile OSes in 2013 http://www.muktware.com/2013/12/rise-gnulinux-powered-mobile-oses-2013/18568 | Jan 04 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | The rise of GNU/Linux-powered mobile OSes in 2013 | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gbrr8 ] | Jan 04 10:01 |
| schestowitz | "Although, I'm not sure many of these could be called GNU/Linux, but */Linux." | Jan 04 10:01 |
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| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/file-sharing-boosts-creation-of-hit-music-research-finds-140102/ | Jan 04 11:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | File-Sharing Boosts Creation of New Hit Music, Research Finds | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gbs84 ] | Jan 04 11:06 |
| iophk | 'industry' != musicians | Jan 04 11:07 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/01/internet-streaming-music-record-industry | Jan 04 11:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Internet streaming won't save music – the record industry still relies on hits | Media | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gbs8p ] | Jan 04 11:07 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/secops-failure-gpggmail-on-osx-mavericks-may-store-unencrypted-drafts/ | Jan 04 11:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | SecOps failure: GPG+Gmail on OSX Mavericks may store unencrypted drafts | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gbs8u ] | Jan 04 11:08 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/simpsons-pirate-ordered-to-pay-fox-10-5-million-in-damages-140102/ | Jan 04 11:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Simpsons Pirate Ordered to Pay Fox $10.5 Million in Damages | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gbsjg ] | Jan 04 11:32 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1NjA | Jan 04 15:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Debian Still Debating Systemd vs. Upstart Init System [ http://ur1.ca/gbxg8 ] | Jan 04 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | Former Canonical employees are trying to steer them into using Upstart. | Jan 04 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | What community? There is no community. There is one company that maintains it, and they have a Contributor License Agreement that assigns them the right to make a proprietary version of it. | Jan 04 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | If Debian adopts Upstart, they will either have to immediately fork it the moment they want to improve anything about it, or they will sign Ubuntu's CLA and agree that Debian's work on Upstart can be turned into proprietary software someday. | Jan 04 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2013/12/msg00234.html | Jan 04 15:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | lists.debian.org | Bug#727708: init system other points, and conclusion [ http://ur1.ca/gbxjs ] | Jan 04 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | LOL @ OpenRC | Jan 04 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | Manual? What manual? | Jan 04 15:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's not like you're going to need to know how to use the software. :) | Jan 04 15:25 |
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| DaemonFC | Comcast messed up my bill again. I was offered $29.99 a month for 12 months, and they actually billed me $59.95 this month. | Jan 04 16:32 |
| DaemonFC | None of them seem to know what they're doing. | Jan 04 16:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481449 | Jan 04 18:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The NSA lies about guarding national interests, unless this nation is ownership of just hundreds of men, not hundreds of millions | Jan 04 18:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy | Jan 04 18:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Revealed: how the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gc05e ] | Jan 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html | Jan 04 18:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.gnu.org | Did You Say “Intellectual Property”? It's a Seductive Mirage - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/gc05g ] | Jan 04 18:37 |
| schestowitz | "I'm afraid that is how they really view things but might be confused and think of the company and brand names instead of the owners. We have seen this in Cablegate, where specific companies were favored as the US national interest. We also see it in the crackdown on OWS, where state, local and federal agencies came together at "fusion centers" to work with banks to crush the protests. Surely the people in those centers around the | Jan 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | country confused the bank's interest with the national interest. We also see it in ludicrous copyright and "intellectual property" legislation that confuses big publisher and brand names with national interest. Owners of these brand names do a good job of hiding their interest by pretending the brands serve employees and the economy but their employees are treated worse than slaves. This is very harmful, leaders help these owners by | Jan 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | oppressing everyone else and think they are doing something good for everyone." | Jan 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | "How to reshare with comment?" | Jan 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Repost. I will start. | Jan 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy | Jan 04 18:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481398 | Jan 04 18:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Criminalising poverty http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/jan/04/buy-to-let-landlord-evicts-housing-benefit-tenants #uk | Jan 04 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Buy-to-let property supremo shuts door on housing benefit tenants | Money | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gc06e ] | Jan 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | "unHappy New Year." | Jan 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3482133 | Jan 04 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | Will Hill: "I'm a... [ http://ur1.ca/gc06m ] | Jan 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | htts://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3482133 | Jan 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.joindiaspora.com/p/3482133 | Jan 04 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | Will Hill: "I'm a... | Jan 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.joindiaspora.com/p/3482133 | Jan 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3480303 | Jan 04 18:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The drones which today indiscriminately kill... history of the technology as children’s toys, not weapons." http://www.globalresearch.ca/haiti-drones-and-slavery/5363582?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=haiti-drones-and-slavery | Jan 04 18:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.globalresearch.ca | Haiti: Drones and Slavery | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gc09m ] | Jan 04 18:45 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, but I love my toys." | Jan 04 18:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3479721 | Jan 04 18:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blocking: what could possibly go wrong? https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/blocking-what-could-possibly-go-wrong blocking truth, too http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/71751684734/serious-question-seriously-was-george-carlin-ever | Jan 04 18:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - Blocking: what could possibly go wrong? [ http://ur1.ca/gbrqt ] | Jan 04 18:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> lessig.tumblr.com | Lessig Blog, v2 [ http://ur1.ca/gbhky ] | Jan 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | "Better to have Open Spectrum and really decentralize communications." | Jan 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | This might facilitate - GASP - protests or marches | Jan 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | This might facilitate - GASP - protests or marches | Jan 04 18:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481248 | Jan 04 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: | Jan 04 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by dubbelmubbel@despora.de: https://despora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ef950bbe9f3f29c4a8b1.jpeg | Jan 04 18:47 |
| schestowitz | "you should also research the effects that Geo-engineering has on the changes of our climate - you'd be surprised to learn how easily our weather is manipulated" | Jan 04 18:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3480163 | Jan 04 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Espionage relies on ability to "crack the codes of banking, medical, business and government codes around the world" http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/nsa-secretly-funds-quantum-computer-research-break-global-codes/18715 | Jan 04 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | NSA secretly funds quantum computer research to break global codes | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gbrqm ] | Jan 04 18:47 |
| schestowitz | "What a perfect metaphor for the whole problem and the solution. The D-Wave quantum computers already bought and being tested, work at doing what their masters bid them, but only as long as the process of their calculations aren't observed. If we can ensure that they're kept under observation, they're incapable of creating harm." | Jan 04 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the US is under extreme cold right now. | Jan 04 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | The temperature where I'm at will drop to about 20 degrees below zero (F) on Monday night. | Jan 04 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad I had them switch me over to 5w30 motor oil before winter hit. | Jan 04 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | 10w30 would give me a serious fight if I tried to start my car at that temperature. | Jan 04 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | I used to use 10w30 year round and never had a problem with it until just the last few years. | Jan 04 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://qz.com/131436/contrary-to-what-youve-heard-android-is-almost-impenetrable-to-malware/ | Jan 04 19:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | qz.com | Contrary to what you’ve heard, Android is almost impenetrable to malware – Quartz [ http://ur1.ca/fy2nv ] | Jan 04 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | Google says that even if you're installing apps from outside the Play store, you're still pretty safe. | Jan 04 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | 1,200 per million app installs from outside the play store are "potentially malicious", or about 0.12%. | Jan 04 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | And "potentially malicious" doesn't necessarily mean malicious. | Jan 04 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them are just rooting apps or request odd permissions that malware might need. | Jan 04 19:28 |
| MinceR | and there are more lines of defense than the play store | Jan 04 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Google introduced Verify Apps in Android 4.2. | Jan 04 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | It's basically a built in malware detector. | Jan 04 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | It will warn you and prevent the app from installing if it believes the behavior is potentially malicious. | Jan 04 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | Or if it's on Google's list of bad apps. | Jan 04 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | You can override it. | Jan 04 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | The permissions that you really need to worry about are obviously going to be "make phone calls" and "send SMS messages". | Jan 04 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | Almost half of all actual malware sends SMS messages and phone calls to "premium numbers" to bill fraudulant charges to your phone bill. | Jan 04 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | They also text copies of themselves to other people in your phone's contact list. | Jan 04 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the Android malware scare traces back to companies that want to sell you antivirus subscriptions, or have ties to Microsoft or Apple. | Jan 04 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | If it makes you sleep better to waste $3 a month on antivirus subscriptions, then I guess you can go for it. | Jan 04 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 04 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | I try to avoid being nickel and dimed like that. | Jan 04 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | I've counted several ways that Sprint tries to tack on an extra $1-2-3 onto your bill for a la carte services. | Jan 04 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | I guess you really can't blame them. They are a business, and their goal is to make money. | Jan 04 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | Their monthly subscription price for voice, text, and data is pretty reasonable. | Jan 04 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | They're obviously looking for little things they can bill you extra for to make up for the low monthly price. | Jan 04 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | I hate antivirus companies, period. | Jan 04 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | One of the best things about getting rid of Windows is that there's no $50 a year antivirus subscription. | Jan 04 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | Over 10 years, you save $500 on that alone. | Jan 04 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gizmondo | Jan 04 19:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Gizmondo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jan 04 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | I remember these. A lot of tech magazines said it was going to be huge, and then they ended up selling less than 25,000 of them and going under. | Jan 04 19:46 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482178 | Jan 04 20:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Oracle refuses to even distance itself from #nsa leaks, allegations. Ellison openly supports NSA, has CIA past.Why trust MySQL, Unbreakable? | Jan 04 20:17 |
| schestowitz | "And why trust oracle Java? :P" | Jan 04 20:17 |
| schestowitz | I didn't want to list a comprehensive list of Oracle products | Jan 04 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482254 | Jan 04 20:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Common myths in British minds: blacks inclined t/w violence, race is economic condition, low wages not an injustice, privatisation is good | Jan 04 20:18 |
| schestowitz | "30 yrs of Thatcherism?" | Jan 04 20:18 |
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| schestowitz | "If there were no correlation between race and SES, it would not be regarded as an economic condition. But I'm pretty sure that's not what you're talking about." | Jan 04 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle has two selling points for "Unbreakable". | Jan 04 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Lower support costs and it's tuned to run their own software faster. | Jan 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3477901 | Jan 04 20:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1ODc #linux #bluray - for those who need to use physical storage not as 'consumers' | Jan 04 20:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Open-Source Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux [ http://ur1.ca/gbgoi ] | Jan 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | "VHS is a superior format in many respects. Still better than DVD, Flash media and hard drives. I set up my Raspberry Pi with OpenELEC today. Played an old Samurai movie from a flash drive. So you can really treat DVDs like temporary, or backup media. Just rip it to a HDD, SSD, or flash drive. At least it won't fuck up when you scratch it. Still, as bad as DVDs are, the place where media is getting the nastiest is online. It's where | Jan 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | the industry is moving." | Jan 04 20:21 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: | Jan 04 20:52 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: | Jan 04 20:53 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: | Jan 04 20:53 |
| MinceR | Jan 04 20:53 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: this event isn't looking very hopeful for merchandice | Jan 04 20:54 |
| sebsebseb | for freebies | Jan 04 20:54 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: openSUSE stuff and that's about it reay it's looking like | Jan 04 20:54 |
| MinceR | no surprise | Jan 04 20:54 |
| sebsebseb | I can't just gget Ubuntu stuff from the UK rep for example | Jan 04 20:54 |
| sebsebseb | and Mint I don't think has anything suitable realy anyway and is probaby hard to get something from | Jan 04 20:55 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/lastwheel/status/419581014084562944 | Jan 04 21:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @lastwheel: @schestowitz I disagree. It's a very interesting question and response. Obv the asker was hoping to trip Assange up. I laughed too. | Jan 04 21:32 |
| schestowitz | They can be implicated in charges and they follow legal advice. No surprise there. Appelbaum returns to US. | Jan 04 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | shared Occupy Democrats's photo. | Jan 04 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | 4 minutes ago · Edited | Jan 04 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p526x296/1554369_567620163331042_1677805345_n.jpg | Jan 04 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | My question is... If this is allowed to go through, then when will the Supreme Court strike down the minimum wage because it goes against Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | Hobby Lobby can't be allowed to argue successfully that corporations are people with religious beliefs, or there will be a terrible anti-worker precedent that will be set, with no end in sight. | Jan 04 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | When do they get to stop paying overtime because it's against the Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | When do they get to turn away health and safety inspectors because public safety regulations are against their Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | When do they get to turn away Environmental Protection Agency inspectors because pollution control laws violate the Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Corporations only have one belief. That belief is that they should do anything that they can get away with in order to make more money. Corporations are not concerned about the standard of living of their workers. Corporations are not concerned about polluting our environment. Corporations don't care about anything except making more money. | Jan 04 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Fines usually don't stop them from breaking the law. They see breaking the law as a "calculated risk". They weigh the amount of money that lawbreaking will make for them against the possibility of being caught and the size of the fine. | Jan 04 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | In modern times, the government doesn't generally go looking, and when they do, the fine is far less than the illegally obtained profit. | Jan 04 21:39 |
| Sosumi | oracle itself is a CIA creation | Jan 04 21:47 |
| Sosumi | no surprise in Larry supporting the multiple programs | Jan 04 21:47 |
| Sosumi | *snooping programs | Jan 04 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | about a minute ago | Jan 04 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | So, since Comcast basically lied to me about the price I would be paying, to get me off of the phone, and to increase that lying agent's retention count, I've been going over my options. | Jan 04 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint will sell you 5 GB of tethering, but it comes at an additional cost of $30 a month. So, that's not going to be a replacement for my cable internet. | Jan 04 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | There are a few options to tether without your carrier granting permission or even knowing that you're doing it, and then you can take advantage of your unlimited 4G LTE data plan. | Jan 04 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | The options are not all that appealing to me. | Jan 04 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | One is to install an app like PDANet or Fox-Fi. They have a one time fee of about $15 to use their fully featured wifi hotspot tethering functionality. OK. No big deal. Compared with paying Comcast $60-something a month, a one time fee of $15 is a bargain. But, the catch seems to be that you have to install some kind of proprietary computer software onto your PC. That software only seems to exist for Mac OS and Windows, and I don't have any | Jan 04 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | computers that run those operating systems, and I really don't want to use either of them. Furthermore, there's no telling if the data that you route through that application is secure. It would be pretty easy to launch a man in the middle attack on it. And, it appears that some protocols that I use heavily, like bittorrent, are not supported at all. | Jan 04 21:52 |
| DaemonFC | So, that's out of the question. | Jan 04 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | The other option would be to root my phone and install the CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android alternative firmware onto it. I like the idea of CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android, but rooting the phone and replacing the firmware automatically voids both the phone's warranty and Sprint's damage/loss/theft insurance. Besides, I don't even know if either firmware will work on my phone. | Jan 04 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | So it looks like the only option is to keep paying Comcast. If anyone has another idea, I'm all ears. | Jan 04 21:53 |
| Sosumi | no other ISP? | Jan 04 21:58 |
| Sosumi | and how can you be paying $60 a month for some internet only line | Jan 04 21:59 |
| Sosumi | makes no sense | Jan 04 21:59 |
| MinceR | is there no DSL or something? | Jan 04 21:59 |
| Sosumi | that in here gets you unlimited calls, tv with mainstream channels and 12MB internet | Jan 04 22:00 |
| Sosumi | on a dsl service, it is 34€ for an enterprise line with free calls for landline | Jan 04 22:01 |
| Sosumi | on copper | Jan 04 22:01 |
| Sosumi | better check what's around | Jan 04 22:02 |
| Sosumi | for a better alternative | Jan 04 22:02 |
| Sosumi | comcast(astrophic) | Jan 04 22:03 |
| Snowleaksange | 160 usd for tv,internet,phone from comcast for me | Jan 04 22:04 |
| schestowitz | [21:50] <Sosumi> oracle itself is a CIA creation | Jan 04 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Not directly, but yes | Jan 04 22:04 |
| Sosumi | in-q-tel | Jan 04 22:05 |
| schestowitz | to be pedantic, I think CIA benkrolled it by becoming a large costumer | Jan 04 22:05 |
| schestowitz | the CIA funding body also funds all sorts of DB companies | Jan 04 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Not necessarily because it wants to use them to hoard data itself | Jan 04 22:05 |
| schestowitz | it can find ways to take over data of users of those DB techs | Jan 04 22:05 |
| schestowitz | *customer | Jan 04 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Same for Amazon ATM | Jan 04 22:06 |
| schestowitz | !google bezos washpo cia | Jan 04 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 26,000 Sign Petition Demanding Washington Post Disclose Bezos ... | http://www.occupy.com/article/26000-sign-petition-demanding-washington-post-disclose-bezos-amazon%25E2%2580%2599s-cia-ties | Jan 04 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - CIA Cloud Over Jeff Bezos's Washington Post | Accuracy.Org | http://www.accuracy.org/release/cia-cloud-over-jeff-bezoss-washington-post/ | Jan 04 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Jeff Bezos Is Doing Huge Business with the CIA, While Keeping His ... | http://www.alternet.org/media/owner-washington-post-doing-business-cia-while-keeping-his-readers-dark | Jan 04 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Washington Post Urged to Disclose New Owner's CIA Ties | http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/sectors/item/17261-washington-post-urged-to-disclose-new-owner-s-cia-ties | Jan 04 22:06 |
| schestowitz | !google amazon wikileaks | Jan 04 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - WikiLeaks website pulled by Amazon after US political pressure ... | http://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-website-cables-servers-amazon | Jan 04 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - WikiLeaks - Amazon Web Services | http://aws.amazon.com/message/65348/ | Jan 04 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - WikiLeaks: Inside Julian Assange's War on Secrecy ... - Amazon.com | http://www.amazon.com/WikiLeaks-Inside-Julian-Assanges-Secrecy/dp/B0057D9LJG | Jan 04 22:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - How Lieberman Got Amazon To Drop Wikileaks - Talking Points Memo | http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/how-lieberman-got-amazon-to-drop-wikileaks | Jan 04 22:06 |
| Sosumi | yes I know the about the amazon deal | Jan 04 22:06 |
| schestowitz | brb | Jan 04 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | Snowleaksange,I'm supposed to be paying about $80 after equipment rental and taxes. | Jan 04 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | But I managed to get it down to about $64 by bitching. | Jan 04 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | Still too much. | Jan 04 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I could have them drop me down to their 3 Mbps tier. That would be $29.99 + $8 a month for the equipment rental. | Jan 04 22:13 |
| Snowleaksange | seems im getting ripped off | Jan 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Between my rent and cable internet going up, that's already wiped out my raise. | Jan 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 04 22:15 |
| Sosumi | you are, big time too | Jan 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Now I have to deal with everything else going up as well | Jan 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know we can be told that inflation is only 1.5%. | Jan 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | What the fuck only went up by 1.5%? | Jan 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't food. It wasn't gas. It wasn't housing. It wasn't utilities. | Jan 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Sure as hell wasn't the cable. | Jan 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad I have my rewards credit card at least. | Jan 04 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | I can claw a little bit back out of the bastards with that. | Jan 04 22:16 |
| Snowleaksange | 144 for HD starter bundle | Jan 04 22:17 |
| Snowleaksange | 20 bux for hbo and streampix | Jan 04 22:17 |
| Snowleaksange | 7 bux for internet | Jan 04 22:18 |
| Snowleaksange | free phone service | Jan 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | When Comcast says free, it means check your wallet. | Jan 04 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | And your asshole. | Jan 04 22:21 |
| Sosumi | I don't see why bother with cable | Jan 04 22:21 |
| Sosumi | tv is crap anyways | Jan 04 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | Because DSL is the only other option. | Jan 04 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | I don't subscribe to cable TV or phone. | Jan 04 22:22 |
| Sosumi | and there are internet feeds anyways | Jan 04 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Why would I? | Jan 04 22:22 |
| Sosumi | dsl | Jan 04 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | First of all, I have this thing called a smartphone. | Jan 04 22:22 |
| Sosumi | seems just fine | Jan 04 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | So why would I pay Comcast an extra $20-30 to provide a landline that doesn't go anywhere? | Jan 04 22:22 |
| Snowleaksange | im watching nfl playoffs atm, and watch hbo shows | Jan 04 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | That's what bittorrent is for. | Jan 04 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 22:22 |
| Sosumi | piratebay baby | Jan 04 22:23 |
| Sosumi | :) | Jan 04 22:23 |
| Snowleaksange | i dont like pirating shows | Jan 04 22:23 |
| Snowleaksange | ive pirated shows that got cancelled before | Jan 04 22:23 |
| Sosumi | *sharing | Jan 04 22:23 |
| Sosumi | it is called sharing | Jan 04 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | What's not to like? It's free and there are no commercials. | Jan 04 22:23 |
| Snowleaksange | like abc's Invasion that only ran for 1 series | Jan 04 22:23 |
| Sosumi | someone recorded it and decided to share it with the world | Jan 04 22:24 |
| Snowleaksange | was really upset when it got cancelled | Jan 04 22:24 |
| Snowleaksange | but i realized i wasnt supporting it | Jan 04 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | I don't feel bad for them at all. | Jan 04 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | If they wanted to, they could bypass the cable company and stream it for free with their own ads, and they'd make more money. | Jan 04 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | The cable company is an anachronism. It's like paying a company to deliver ice with a horse-drawn cart. | Jan 04 22:25 |
| Sosumi | direct stream through the internet | Jan 04 22:25 |
| Sosumi | with their own adds | Jan 04 22:25 |
| Sosumi | or a paid version with 0 adds | Jan 04 22:25 |
| Snowleaksange | i can also afford it | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Snowleaksange | i think pirating is fine for college kids without money | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Sosumi | I can too | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Sosumi | but that doesn't mean the I like to be raped | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Snowleaksange | they dont have anything to lose from getting sued so they may as well | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Sosumi | in the wallet | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Snowleaksange | dont understand that metaphor | Jan 04 22:27 |
| Sosumi | you're overpaying | Jan 04 22:28 |
| Sosumi | for what you are getting | Jan 04 22:28 |
| Snowleaksange | thats debatable | Jan 04 22:29 |
| Snowleaksange | would you agree that pirating is underpaying? | Jan 04 22:29 |
| Sosumi | *sharing is ok | Jan 04 22:29 |
| Sosumi | buying the boxed show is and also sharing is ok | Jan 04 22:30 |
| Snowleaksange | sharing is when you have legal right to do so | Jan 04 22:30 |
| Snowleaksange | pirating is when you "share" without right to | Jan 04 22:31 |
| Sosumi | once you bought you have the right to do whatever you want you want with it | Jan 04 22:31 |
| Snowleaksange | not legally | Jan 04 22:32 |
| Sosumi | and you as conscious person who thinks you're being unfairly subjected to some terms of services | Jan 04 22:32 |
| Sosumi | break them | Jan 04 22:32 |
| Snowleaksange | i believe in a society of laws | Jan 04 22:33 |
| Sosumi | it wasn't legal for the US to break from british control | Jan 04 22:33 |
| Sosumi | yet... | Jan 04 22:33 |
| Sosumi | nor it is legal to bomb foreign countries into smitherins | Jan 04 22:34 |
| Sosumi | like libya, iraq, afghanistan, somalia, etc | Jan 04 22:34 |
| Snowleaksange | everyone has to choose for themselves the laws theyre willing to break for reasons theyre willing to break them | Jan 04 22:34 |
| Sosumi | exactly | Jan 04 22:34 |
| Sosumi | and this model of content distribution needs to change | Jan 04 22:35 |
| Sosumi | and adapt with the times | Jan 04 22:35 |
| Sosumi | or just die | Jan 04 22:35 |
| Sosumi | it's natural selection | Jan 04 22:35 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see anything wrong with pirating if you have no money. | Jan 04 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | It's certainly not a lost sale if you don't have any money in the budget to pay them, | Jan 04 22:37 |
| Sosumi | then why not a direct feed from the content creator | Jan 04 22:38 |
| Sosumi | with adds | Jan 04 22:38 |
| Snowleaksange | yeah i agree w that, as i said | Jan 04 22:38 |
| Sosumi | for "pirating" you are already payinh for internet I assume | Jan 04 22:38 |
| Sosumi | and the content makers would still be cashing some €€€ | Jan 04 22:39 |
| Snowleaksange | what do you guys think of China's approach to intellectual property rights? | Jan 04 22:40 |
| Sosumi | you mean the fake mockups model? | Jan 04 22:40 |
| Snowleaksange | well i mean just not enforcing at all | Jan 04 22:41 |
| Sosumi | well if that is the case | Jan 04 22:42 |
| Sosumi | then it is ok | Jan 04 22:42 |
| Sosumi | let the content creators sort things out through competition in order to get sales | Jan 04 22:42 |
| Sosumi | instead of sitting on their lazy asses cashing on stuff | Jan 04 22:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482545 | Jan 04 22:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not enough money for health and education, but "Pentagon Spending Over $1 Trillion on the F-35 Fighter J" http://www.dailyfinance.com/2014/01/04/drones-are-the-future-of-war-so-why-is-the-pentago/ | Jan 04 22:43 |
| schestowitz | "For the security! Why does nobody get this? #irony" | Jan 04 22:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.dailyfinance.com | Drones Are the Future of War, So Why Is the Pentagon Spending Over $1 Trillion on the F-35 Fighter J - DailyFinance [ http://ur1.ca/gc2q4 ] | Jan 04 22:43 |
| Sosumi | schestowitz, the f35 is the new comanche | Jan 04 22:44 |
| Sosumi | it'll be canceled in the end | Jan 04 22:44 |
| Sosumi | plus, the airplane conception, in the way that it is being handled will mean that all they're going to get is flying turd | Jan 04 22:45 |
| Sosumi | of which even a f16 will be able to outmaneuver | Jan 04 22:45 |
| Sosumi | not to mention drones | Jan 04 22:46 |
| Sosumi | drones and drone barges are the future | Jan 04 22:46 |
| Sosumi | because of the lack of need to submit pilots to g forces | Jan 04 22:46 |
| Sosumi | and the possibility to construct smaller airplanes OR planes with higher payloads | Jan 04 22:47 |
| Sosumi | I said that for the first time in 2003 | Jan 04 22:47 |
| Sosumi | after playing freelancer :) | Jan 04 22:48 |
| Sosumi | simply because it actually made sense | Jan 04 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to go to ALDI real quick before the snowstorm gets here. | Jan 04 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | Subzero temps and a foot of snow. | Jan 04 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 04 22:48 |
| Sosumi | at least in my 13 years old head | Jan 04 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | I should probably get at least a week's worth of food. | Jan 04 22:49 |
| Sosumi | DaemonFC, in which part of the US are you in? | Jan 04 22:49 |
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| DaemonFC | northern Indiana | Jan 04 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | Near Fort Wayne. | Jan 04 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to pick up some of that tuna salad they have at ALDI. I love that stuff. | Jan 04 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | or chicken salad.... | Jan 04 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | their chicken salad is good too | Jan 04 22:52 |
| Snowleaksange | 65 in silicon valley :P | Jan 04 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't done any grocery shopping since November. | Jan 04 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | I've been living on fast food coupons. | Jan 04 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jan 04 22:53 |
| Sosumi | you need to make some retirement plans and relocate to southern spain or portugal | Jan 04 22:53 |
| Sosumi | look, no snow :) | Jan 04 22:54 |
| Sosumi | only rain and it's not very cold | Jan 04 22:54 |
| Sosumi | you can still walk around in shorts | Jan 04 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. If I had the money, I'd leave. | Jan 04 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | Like, if some hypothetical rich uncle died and left me in the will, and I had money tomorrow, I wouldn't be in Indiana on Monday. | Jan 04 22:55 |
| Sosumi | you remember that trick I mentioned here, right? | Jan 04 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | Going to ALDI. I have about an hour or two before the major snowing starts. | Jan 04 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | That's *if* the forecast is accurate. | Jan 04 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | It told me all clear to 9 PM last Sunday, so I drove a friend home about 30 miles from here thinking I had time to beat the storm. | Jan 04 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | It got nasty at around 7:15, when I had most of the drive left. | Jan 04 22:57 |
| Snowleaksange | i became suddenly rich at the end of november. havent done anything different yet | Jan 04 22:59 |
| Sosumi | Snowleaksange, by coercing your rich uncle to make you his single heir and then poisoning him? :P | Jan 04 23:01 |
| schestowitz | "Hey, don't lick the door!" | Jan 04 23:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482850 | Jan 04 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ***Thief! :D*** | Jan 04 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif | Jan 04 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif | Jan 04 23:01 |
| Snowleaksange | similar result. Apple bought a company that i cofounded but hadnt worked at for years. got email basically saying, hey where should we wire you millions of dollars | Jan 04 23:02 |
| Sosumi | so they wanted your share in the company? | Jan 04 23:03 |
| Snowleaksange | yeah | Jan 04 23:03 |
| Sosumi | now employ that money well | Jan 04 23:05 |
| MinceR | what did that company do? | Jan 04 23:05 |
| Snowleaksange | twitter search engine | Jan 04 23:05 |
| Snowleaksange | well started by paying 650k in taxes | Jan 04 23:05 |
| Snowleaksange | to be wasted on bunch of useless military bases, spy infrastructure, and covert operations basically diametrically opposed to my interests | Jan 04 23:06 |
| Sosumi | like in backing some student's research in AI and artificial life | Jan 04 23:06 |
| Sosumi | specially if they are from instituto superior tecnico - portugal | Jan 04 23:06 |
| Snowleaksange | my most recent employment was on "AI" team in machine intelligence group at Google | Jan 04 23:07 |
| Snowleaksange | think theyve p much got it covered | Jan 04 23:07 |
| Snowleaksange | also hard to do AI research without 10k cores to devote to your whims | Jan 04 23:08 |
| Sosumi | that was one of my main points, computability | Jan 04 23:09 |
| Sosumi | and without grants there isn't exactly much that be done other than be creative | Jan 04 23:10 |
| Sosumi | maliciously creative, I should say, but never mind that I said that | Jan 04 23:11 |
| Snowleaksange | i think knowledge representation is one of biggest hurdles. i think just going to take a lot of trial & error to stumble upon frame representations that really work | Jan 04 23:12 |
| Sosumi | not my problem | Jan 04 23:34 |
| Sosumi | it started as a trading platform to anallise the chatter on the internet and then predict stock values in an automated fashion | Jan 04 23:36 |
| Sosumi | I tested it in stock that don't make it to main index | Jan 04 23:36 |
| Sosumi | in this case psi pink sheets | Jan 04 23:37 |
| Sosumi | and even resorted to spam in order to coerce ppl in buying 0.40€ stock in some company they never heard off | Jan 04 23:38 |
| Sosumi | but I wanted it to be better, probably "inspired" by norbert wiener's "cybernetics" | Jan 04 23:39 |
| Sosumi | into some form of artificial life | Jan 04 23:40 |
| Sosumi | but because of the shady methods used there, there is no way to get grants to buy equipment | Jan 04 23:41 |
| Sosumi | but at least I'm free to use already existent resources | Jan 04 23:41 |
| Sosumi | and I got all the time I want in order to clean up the case for appreciation to actually get a grant | Jan 04 23:42 |
| Sosumi | that was what a teacher said to me | Jan 04 23:42 |
| Sosumi | but I could clean up things, show an actual working concept and go to kickstarter for funding | Jan 04 23:43 |
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| Sosumi | instead of getting my hands tied to the calouste gulbenkian foundation, which is the main and only place to get grants from | Jan 04 23:44 |
| Sosumi | actually, hands tied to and by them | Jan 04 23:45 |
| Snowleaksange | cool | Jan 04 23:46 |
| Sosumi | instead of being free to actually set my own goals | Jan 04 23:46 |
| Snowleaksange | yeah getting funding difficult and usually more trouble than worth because the you have to please your funders | Jan 04 23:46 |
| Snowleaksange | unless business already very close to profitability | Jan 04 23:46 |
| Snowleaksange | youre young tho. youve got time, inspiration, energy | Jan 04 23:47 |
| Sosumi | 24 | Jan 04 23:47 |
| Snowleaksange | more important than funding. can work dayjob | Jan 04 23:47 |
| Sosumi | that started in 2009 | Jan 04 23:47 |
| Sosumi | when I was 19 and during my time out before entering university | Jan 04 23:48 |
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| TweetedTuxMachin | http://t.co/vO6C6Y7Qjn | Jan 04 23:49 |
| TweetedTuxMachin | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc2zv | Jan 04 23:49 |
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| TweetedTuxMachin | @schestowitz Must dance http://t.co/j24VKARD2E | Jan 04 23:50 |
| TweetedTuxMachin | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc2zz | Jan 04 23:50 |
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| Sosumi | aside, | Dec 29 00:07 |
| Sosumi | gnu octave finally has a GUI | Dec 29 00:07 |
| Sosumi | officially that is | Dec 29 00:15 |
| Sosumi | I remember older projects like qt octave and so on | Dec 29 00:16 |
| DaemonFC | shared Star Trek: Voyager's photo. | Dec 29 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to have to vote for Captain Janeway. In the future, a female starship captain from Indiana fights to get her crew home when they become stranded in the Delta Quadrant, over 70 years from Earth at maximum warp. Sure, it's fiction, but it's inspiring. | Dec 29 00:26 |
| DaemonFC | Bonus: Along the way, she manages to rip the Borg a new one. That alone should get your vote! | Dec 29 00:27 |
| DaemonFC | Despicable Me 2: | Dec 29 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | Little girl (to Gru): "Why are you so fat?" | Dec 29 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | Gru: "Because my house is made of candy. And sometimes, I eat instead of facing my problems." | Dec 29 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | I can relate. Who's up for Taco Bell? | Dec 29 00:45 |
| DaemonFC | Spotify Radio is now free on Android. | Dec 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | gives me something to listen to while I'm driving. :) | Dec 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | Last.FM is no longer available in the United States. | Dec 29 02:19 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 29 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME Web tells websites you're using Mac OS. | Dec 29 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Intel Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/538.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/538.1 Epiphany/3.10.2 | Dec 29 03:13 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: yep poor designed website id would also say Safari user. | Dec 29 03:14 |
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| amarsh04 | http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-29/david-hicks-says-government-knew-he-would-not-get-fair-trial/5177504 | Dec 29 04:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.abc.net.au | Solicitor says documents show government knew former Guantanamo Bay detainee David Hicks would not get fair trial - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) [ http://ur1.ca/g9zlc ] | Dec 29 04:07 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: Really David Hicks trained with a overseas army without permission. Australia by international law could have voided his citisenship | Dec 29 04:14 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: so what is the worry about fair trial he was not infact due anything. | Dec 29 04:15 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_nationality_law#Service_in_the_armed_forces_of_an_enemy_country | Dec 29 05:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Australian nationality law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/g9zxv ] | Dec 29 05:30 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: that is a key point techically Australia can if so chooses kick David Hicks out. | Dec 29 05:30 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: allowing Hicks to be punished in Guantanamo Bay was mercy. | Dec 29 05:30 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: and Australian cit law is retrospective. | Dec 29 05:33 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459345 | Dec 29 09:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Facebook asked me to add my phone number or credit card for verification. Gave them the finger and deleted my account." -Theatre X | Dec 29 09:34 |
| schestowitz | "I gave them both fingers months ago! Google and mocrosoft too!" | Dec 29 09:34 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459340 | Dec 29 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: David Blunkett calls for satirical TV shows such as Mock the Week to be reclassified as 'current affairs' http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/we-need-to-watch-that-david-blunkett-calls-for-satirical-tv-shows-such-as-mock-the-week-to-be-reclassified-as-current-affairs-9027372.html censor? | Dec 29 10:01 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, censorship. The people doing satire do better research than most current affairs shows. This guy is barking up the wrong tree, but it's intentional. You won't be able to find out anymore because the UK is censoring your internet too." | Dec 29 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.independent.co.uk | 'We need to watch that': David Blunkett calls for satirical TV shows such as Mock the Week to be reclassified as 'current affairs' - News - TV & Radio - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/ga0uz ] | Dec 29 10:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459287 | Dec 29 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Worst spokesperson ever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Psaki I hope she stays, she makes her employer look stupid beyond belief | Dec 29 10:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> en.wikipedia.org | Jen Psaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ga0v1 ] | Dec 29 10:01 |
| schestowitz | "Have I missed something? She looks good on paper, good schools and an amazingly rapid rise through responsible positions." | Dec 29 10:01 |
| schestowitz | She is reading scripts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFIVVmXE-g my wife and I had a field day watch it yesterday | Dec 29 10:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | 'US citizen has no right to free speech?' State Dept spokesperson grilled over Snowden - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ga0v5 ] | Dec 29 10:02 |
| schestowitz | *watching | Dec 29 10:02 |
| schestowitz | "Tyrants always reward a few flunkies. Discontent grows as they push their luck by beggaring the rest of us." | Dec 29 10:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459295 | Dec 29 10:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Academics Who Defend Wall St. Reap Reward http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/28/business/academics-who-defend-wall-st-reap-reward.html?ref=business implicit purchasing of consent. #occupyws | Dec 29 10:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/ga0up ] | Dec 29 10:03 |
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| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> @glynmoody "the only people who retain any hope of secure | Dec 29 11:11 |
| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> communications are geeks who understand | Dec 29 11:11 |
| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> #cryptography and use #opensource software." - | Dec 29 11:11 |
| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> ibid. | Dec 29 11:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/417255775732379648 | Dec 29 11:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz I was thinking hardware (routers, modems, and the like) | Dec 29 11:33 |
| schestowitz | There are ways of verification. My jobs involves this. It's a chain of trust. | Dec 29 11:34 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3460170 | Dec 29 16:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does anyone really believe that the #cia wouldn't have 'disappeared' (killed) #snowden if CIA knew what he was up up? | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | The thing is the actions always override what is being said | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | That actions so far ......... well the NSA is still working ...... the security is being tightened up ........ but for who's benefits. | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | How do you get the people to support a massive lock down on the internet where it is so secure - even the hackers cannot get back into it ...... | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Then you change the way it is run and start charging for everything - using the security to lock people out ........... | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | We will see ........ but Snowden so far seems like the classic film style double agent ....... you give them so much that is all interesting and obvious ......... but the things the people really want to know about ........... how to keep them in suspense ...... | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | We are working on some new information and when its all sorted out we will feed you it ........... | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | Thing with the whistleblowers of the past ........ | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | The information is given up front to make sure everyone is aware of what is going on ............ | Dec 29 16:26 |
| schestowitz | With Snowden ...... its like leading a donkey with a carrot ........ | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Just depends where we are heading with all of this ....... | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Thinking of the case with Shane Todd ....... if the NSA were so good they would know everything about him and his last calls on his mobile and his last emails on his computer. | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Yet ............ dead end ........... and the information seems so much like it should be obvious what happened to him. | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | and if it can happen to Shane Todd ........ then as you say why not with Snowden ......... | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Yet he gets full Media attention where others in the past get what ....... hidden away ..... and distorted stories ........ even a film about Assange to make him out to be something else. | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Manning is the only one ....... they did not kill him ...... well maybe psychologically ......... | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | He is now a girl locked up for 35 years ....... whether he really wants to be called a girl or not - who knows - but they destroyed him ......... in another way. | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Aaron Schwartz .... mmm | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Seems its bad business nowadays to be more intelligent than the government ...... this decade will be the time in History where they went after the clever people in society that knew how to use computing and data from it to good effect. | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Who else has left the USA ..... due to pressure ...... | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Who fears for their life ..... maybe Snowden does - but his safeguard was that he already put the information out somewhere ( that is what they maybe need before they do anything rash ) if it is all for real .......... | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Still have doubts on this one ....... but I do support whatever it is he is doing .......... I think ........ ? | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | If the NSA was for the good of the people they would have let out all they have on Shane Todd | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Its things like that - that make you wonder what they do know. | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | "Snowden is a hired man. He's telling us what they want us to know." | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | "Another angle is despite outrage, they handed him the info in order to sneak in even more awful secret legislation to hide their "sensitive" operations. The public outrage is the opposite of the internal government outrage: they can use this leak from a low level employee to lock their real dirty laundry even deeper and tighter." | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | The things I am seeing are to do with other government officials ..... basically gets them all to tighten up their own security. ( not such a bad thing ) | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Normal peoples own perceptions ......... doubt anything has really changed ... | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Has one Law been passed to protect people from UN-warrented snooping ? | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Law+been+passed+to+protect+people+from+UN-warrented+snooping&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&gws_rd=cr& | Dec 29 16:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.co.uk | Law been passed to protect people from UN-warrented snooping - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/ga256 ] | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Yet nothing appears for protecting the people ......... | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Lets see what laws are being passed to detain the people ......... | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Law+been+passed+to+protect+people+from+UN-warrented+snooping&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&gws_rd=cr&ei=eRzAUoyOBovY0QW_4YDwDA#channel=fs&gl=uk&q=law+been+passed+to+detain+us+citizens | Dec 29 16:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.co.uk | Law been passed to protect people from UN-warrented snooping - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/ga258 ] | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Oh look loads of action there ....... | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 16:27 |
| schestowitz | Snowden is doing huge damage to many in Power, so to suggest he serves those in Power makes no sense at all. Currently, the Russian and Chinese are gaining from it, maybe central Europe also | Dec 29 16:28 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459929 | Dec 29 16:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## **Guy Debord** | Dec 29 16:29 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by ramil_rodaje@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_27885bfd0d6c0507b780.png | Dec 29 16:29 |
| schestowitz | "The irony is arresting!" | Dec 29 16:29 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 29 16:31 |
| MinceR | j0 | Dec 29 16:31 |
| sebsebseb | 2014 the year of MinceR | Dec 29 16:31 |
| MinceR | isn't that a bit early to announce? | Dec 29 16:32 |
| sebsebseb | maybe | Dec 29 16:33 |
| iophk | http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/12/29/toronto_police_officer_strips_naked_hundreds_of_people.html | Dec 29 16:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.thestar.com | Toronto police officer strips naked “hundreds” of people | Toronto Star [ http://ur1.ca/ga26z ] | Dec 29 16:35 |
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| DaemonFC | about a minute ago · Edited | Dec 29 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Some hackers decided to try to piece together a PC equivalent to Apple's new $10,000 Mac Pro, and ended up with a bill of about $11,500. There were a few problems that I see with this. | Dec 29 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | 1. They did not use the lowest-price sources for the PC hardware that they bought. | Dec 29 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | 2. They threw in a license for an unnecessary copy of Windows 8.1 Professional, which added $200. They could have used GNU/Linux for free. | Dec 29 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | 3. Although the graphics cards are the same AMD FirePro model numbers, the one in the Mac Pro is not nearly as fast as the PC version. Apple had to slow down the clock speeds of the graphics processing core, and the memory, in order to cram it into that case without a big heatsink or fan. So, the OEM PC part is much, much, better. | Dec 29 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | 4. Xeon processors are a waste of money, and so is ECC RAM. The only difference between a Xeon processor and its Core i7 brethren is that Xeon supports ECC RAM and Core i7 doesn't. They could have knocked off several hundred more dollars from the PC if they used an i7 and non-ECC RAM. | Dec 29 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Apple fans are under the misguided impression that Xeons are "magical performance unicorns", and they are not. | Dec 29 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | There's probably more, but I think you could build a system that kicks the $10,000 Mac Pro in the balls for $8,500 or less. | Dec 29 19:43 |
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| DaemonFC | edited: | Dec 29 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | I would use an ASUS or XFX model of FirePro card, myself, if I could afford it. | Dec 29 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | The truth is that the FirePro is not that much better than a fast Radeon HD, but the FirePro is more expensive. So, they could save hundreds buying a Radeon HD instead. The biggest difference between FirePro and Radeon HD is that the proprietary driver is "certified" to run "professional" software, like AutoCAD. The RadeonHD will do it too, but AMD doesn't specifically support that use case. | Dec 29 19:46 |
| Sosumi | no point in using Xeon if you don't use two or more of them | Dec 29 19:54 |
| Sosumi | also, the ati gpus on the trashcan are underclock | Dec 29 19:54 |
| Sosumi | they run at 600 mhz with a boost to 800 MHz when it's possible | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | 3 minutes ago · Edited | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Another problem with Apple is that they write their own graphics drivers for Mac OS X. They don't use drivers from Nvidia or AMD. Apple's graphics drivers have been proven to be slower and less OpenGL compliant than the vendor drivers on Windows or GNU/Linux, time after time. | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | To tell you what kind of awful drivers come from Apple, Valve tried to port Steam to Mac OS X in 2006, and said that they couldn't, because Apple's OpenGL implementation did not support Occlusion Query. An OpenGL driver that doesn't have Occlusion Query is like a car that is missing a transmission. I mean, it's some pretty basic functionality that almost every actual OpenGL program is going to require. They do now. In fact, Apple claims that | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | they support OpenGL 4.0. | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, the driver can just lie. It doesn't mean that they implemented everything that the standard calls for, or that they implemented it correctly. And, the current standard is OpenGL 4.4. | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | When you lie to a program, it will start and run, and work until the time comes to use a feature that you claim to have, and don't, and then the program will crash. | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Or, if you've implemented it wrong, it could just behave in some unexpected way. | Dec 29 19:55 |
| Sosumi | also, there's no distintion between "pro" and "normal" gpu drivers on osx | Dec 29 19:56 |
| Sosumi | and at most "pro" cards only feature more vram | Dec 29 19:56 |
| Sosumi | nothing more | Dec 29 19:56 |
| Sosumi | also, the cards on the trashcan don't have ecc | Dec 29 19:57 |
| Sosumi | even through the ecc feature on the normal firepro cards is virtualized through the memory controller | Dec 29 19:57 |
| Sosumi | that feature is not present on the trashcan cards | Dec 29 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Dec 29 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | Even Nvidia and AMD get things wrong sometimes, but, unlike Apple, they respond to developers by fixing the bugs and getting a new graphics driver update out. Sometimes, it takes them less than a week to patch their driver. | Dec 29 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | With Apple, you have to wait months, if they ever fix it at all. | Dec 29 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, That's not really the case. | Dec 29 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen consumer level graphics hardware with 2-3 GB of fast video RAM. | Dec 29 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | and I haven't even looked in a while | Dec 29 19:58 |
| Sosumi | but those are not reference designs | Dec 29 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | most programs run fine with 1 GB | Dec 29 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | or less | Dec 29 19:59 |
| Sosumi | crapple only used reference designs on their cards | Dec 29 20:00 |
| Sosumi | with the option of a reference workstation grade card, that used the same driver of the gaming grade card, but with the benefit of more vram | Dec 29 20:00 |
| Sosumi | also the point of having more ram on the card is for cuda and opencl offloading | Dec 29 20:01 |
| Sosumi | for just running programs and no gaming, even 128MB would be anough | Dec 29 20:01 |
| Sosumi | *enough | Dec 29 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | Well, to be honest, I think we've long since passed the point where computers are "fast enough" for everything a typical user does. | Dec 29 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that the horrible PC sales are entirely the fault of Windows 8. | Dec 29 20:02 |
| Sosumi | it has entered into the law of diminished returns | Dec 29 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's one of the larger reasons, but people are on a tight budget and realizing that what they have is working well. | Dec 29 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | So, why spend more money to replace things that work? | Dec 29 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I'm still very pleased with my Phenom II X4. | Dec 29 20:03 |
| Sosumi | again, the law of diminished returns for what the users are doing | Dec 29 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Right, so it's not the fastest processor out there, but it's reasonably fast, and it can offload additional threads between four cores. | Dec 29 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. You can play an MP3 file on a 486. | Dec 29 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of things you can get done on some shockingly old hardware. | Dec 29 20:05 |
| Sosumi | the computer as a normal box that sits under your desk is dead for the normal user | Dec 29 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | These tablets and phones don't have the specs of a PC, so software developers are starting to go back and look for ways to trim down their resource requirements again. | Dec 29 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | That gives your PC a second wind. | Dec 29 20:06 |
| Sosumi | and despite everything, more and more are reliquishing their data into cloud services | Dec 29 20:06 |
| Sosumi | I've seen ppl saying that the xbox one with a keyboard connected was enough | Dec 29 20:07 |
| Sosumi | as they could do everything through the built in browser | Dec 29 20:07 |
| Sosumi | office in the cloud, google services, etc | Dec 29 20:07 |
| Sosumi | you know the drill | Dec 29 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | I would use xfce, but, you know how that stuff goes. | Dec 29 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | They're a small project in a big world. There are certain things that don't integrate well, or are missing. Distributions tend to plug the gaps by including GNOME software. | Dec 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | The XBOX One has some major problems. | Dec 29 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's $100 more expensive than the Playstation 4, and much, much, slower. | Dec 29 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | The only web browser you can use is Internet Explorer. | Dec 29 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | etc. | Dec 29 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | They really should have designed a much more ambitious console. | Dec 29 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | The difference in performance between XBOX 360 and PS3 wasn't huge. | Dec 29 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen some benchmarks that suggest that the PS4 could be 50% faster than XBOX One in some cases | Dec 29 20:13 |
| Sosumi | yes, but that's a thing that only matters to ppl like you and me | Dec 29 20:24 |
| Sosumi | the average joe doesn't care | Dec 29 20:24 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/windows-8-x-growth-flatlines-internet-explorer-11-makes-a-splash/ | Dec 29 20:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Windows 8.x growth flatlines, Internet Explorer 11 makes a splash | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ga2zn ] | Dec 29 20:30 |
| Sosumi | IE is king | Dec 29 20:30 |
| Sosumi | I think that says all about the average Joe/Jane | Dec 29 20:31 |
| Sosumi | and again the PC is dead, the future, for the average user, is going to be cloud services integrated with some universal AI for some interactive assistance | Dec 29 20:35 |
| Sosumi | and that's it | Dec 29 20:35 |
| Sosumi | the kind of ppl that run their big boxes'll continue to be the usual niche | Dec 29 20:35 |
| Sosumi | with hardcore gamers, professionals and conscious users | Dec 29 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | It bothers me. | Dec 29 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want a web browser that won't let me block ads, for starters. | Dec 29 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | IE doesn't let you do that. | Dec 29 20:37 |
| MinceR | the PC will be better off with the average user off it | Dec 29 20:37 |
| MinceR | that is, if there will be a PC | Dec 29 20:37 |
| Sosumi | no idea... I haven't used IE since I was on 6th grade back in 2001 or 2002 | Dec 29 20:37 |
| MinceR | uefi is destroying it, turning it into a useless appliance. | Dec 29 20:37 |
| Sosumi | uefi was necessary to address 4TB more | Dec 29 20:38 |
| Sosumi | secure boot was the unecessary part | Dec 29 20:38 |
| Sosumi | it's useless | Dec 29 20:38 |
| MinceR | restricted boot was not necessary to address 4TB or more | Dec 29 20:38 |
| MinceR | and yet it's what they're pushing. | Dec 29 20:38 |
| Sosumi | same for the TPI module | Dec 29 20:38 |
| Sosumi | and the whole trusted computing thing | Dec 29 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | I never really used IE. When I used Windows, I would use it sometimes after a major update, just out of curiosity. | Dec 29 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | Then I'd go back to using Mozilla Application Suite or Opera. | Dec 29 20:40 |
| MinceR | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/27/the-most-kafkaesque-paragraph-from-todays-nsa-ruling/ | Dec 29 20:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtonpost.com | The most Kafkaesque paragraph from today’s NSA ruling [ http://ur1.ca/ga32n ] | Dec 29 20:54 |
| Sosumi | that was on school computers | Dec 29 20:56 |
| Sosumi | I used netscape on mine at home | Dec 29 20:56 |
| Sosumi | your biggest fear at moment should be the impossibility of disabling secure boot on low end to mid range hardware | Dec 29 20:58 |
| Sosumi | for high end hardware there'll always be that option | Dec 29 20:58 |
| Sosumi | specially on workstation grade stuff | Dec 29 20:58 |
| Sosumi | but that is locking gnu/linux, BSD and other OSs behind a paywall | Dec 29 20:58 |
| Sosumi | while the challenge for the next year is to either do away with secure boot or let the users sign their own keys | Dec 29 21:02 |
| Sosumi | another challenge is to demand computers without the OS, neither with windows nor with redhat (hp, dell) | Dec 29 21:03 |
| Sosumi | also, the module is called TPM and not TPI | Dec 29 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | I'm looking into taking out a few of next month's bills. | Dec 29 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Give myself a head of steam going into January. :) | Dec 29 21:08 |
| Sosumi | that's easy | Dec 29 21:12 |
| Sosumi | apply for a ton of credit cards in multiple banks | Dec 29 21:12 |
| Sosumi | even foreign ones | Dec 29 21:12 |
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| Sosumi | and then max the withdraw count on them | Dec 29 21:13 |
| Sosumi | after that, run away to some latin american country | Dec 29 21:13 |
| Sosumi | or manilla or russia or hong knog | Dec 29 21:13 |
| Sosumi | *hong kong | Dec 29 21:14 |
| Sosumi | some country with no extradition to the US should be ok | Dec 29 21:14 |
| Sosumi | the city of london is also okeish for financial criminals, but on this case you'll actually be pulling a hat trick on the banksters | Dec 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | so avoid it | Dec 29 21:15 |
| Sosumi | china also has those small one cabin hotels, | Dec 29 21:16 |
| Sosumi | if you're on the run with no luggage other than some clothes and a laptop | Dec 29 21:17 |
| MinceR | then why pay the bills at all? | Dec 29 21:17 |
| Sosumi | those are excellent | Dec 29 21:17 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 29 21:17 |
| Sosumi | that was the point | Dec 29 21:17 |
| Sosumi | not paying them | Dec 29 21:17 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 29 21:17 |
| Sosumi | aaron swartz should have done that | Dec 29 21:19 |
| Sosumi | instead of staying to become a martyr | Dec 29 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | I make a payment on my credit card every day. | Dec 29 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | I try to keep the balance as low as possible. | Dec 29 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | That way I never pay interest, and they're paying me about $12 a month to use the card. | Dec 29 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | It's not much, but $144 a year isn't nothing. :) | Dec 29 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | It's easy money. You don't have to do anything for it other than use their card instead of the debit card. | Dec 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | So, basically, my credit card rewards are enough to pay my health insurance deductible for the year. | Dec 29 21:30 |
| Sosumi | I only use my parents credit card to pay for stuff that can't be payed in cash | Dec 29 21:33 |
| Sosumi | and that is online stuff | Dec 29 21:33 |
| Sosumi | but it's usually small stuff, I doubt it's even enough to pay for the card itself | Dec 29 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | I use it everywhere. | Dec 29 21:35 |
| Sosumi | I use cash | Dec 29 21:35 |
| Sosumi | cash when possible | Dec 29 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3460093 | Dec 29 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Which will be the big economies in 15 years? It's not a done deal http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/29/worlds-largest-economies-and-their-future #uk #eu #china #russia | Dec 29 22:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Which will be the big economies in 15 years? It's not a done deal | Will Hutton | Comment is free | The Observer [ http://ur1.ca/ga3nu ] | Dec 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | "Brazil. Maybe Australia. ... ... ... If there's much of any 'economy' to report on in 15 years. I'm expecting collapse." | Dec 29 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | I posted this on A&E's wall: | Dec 29 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Don't just delete A&E from your channel line up. Ditch cable TV altogether and save yourself thousands of dollars per year. I ditched my cable TV several years ago, because the line up is 99% garbage. While A&E is letting the American Taliban have a reality show, where the "patriarch" is using crude, derogatory, indecent, and impudent language to describe human beings and body parts, and recommending that you marry and have sex with 15 year | Dec 29 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | old girls, the Science Channel dropped Professor Brian Cox. What a waste. A&E is partially to blame for the vast intellectual wasteland that is cable TV. | Dec 29 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | It's clear that the peckerheads that run A&E will let him get away with saying anything. Why don't they just make a reality show about the Taliban. I'm sure that you'll walk away with much the same experience as watching Duck Dynasty. | Dec 29 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Martin Van Der Harst Too bad you used a clip that was edited (partial, not full context) | Dec 29 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Me: I think it's pretty clear that he said what he meant. In those backwards right-wing crazy states like Kentucky, the age of consent is still only 14. I don't think that's right. Maybe the Fundamentalist Christians that homeskewl their children want to marry them off at age 14, so they can start having babies, but it's a disgusting thing to do. | Dec 29 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | What part of "you can't wait until they turn 20, you've got to marry them at age 15 or 16" could be taken any other way than at face value? | Dec 29 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, this "gem" came from the guy that waited 50 years to give his wife a wedding ring and said that the way to keep your wife is to bring home dead squirrels, so yeah. You can take the trash out of the trailer, but you can't take the trash out of the trash, apparently... People watch this stuff? Garbage in, garbage out. | Dec 29 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | shared Americans Against The Republican Party's photo. | Dec 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/s526x395/1004809_696988640323004_1059421146_n.png | Dec 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | 've never been fond of tax exemption for a "church" (the Catholic one) that accumulates gold, diamonds, and real estate worth billions of dollars, while many millions of people are homeless and hungry. | Dec 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks to the religious tax exemption, we're also subsidizing the Church of Scientology. In other words, if you're a tax payer, you just bought them their "Religious Technology Training Center" in Clearwater, Florida. I understand that they have a bottomless pit and a time machine though. At least, they claim they do. I plan on breaking in and going back in time to kill Hitler. Who's with me? | Dec 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | We can take him back to 2013 and throw him in the bottomless pit. | Dec 29 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Dec 29 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, come on. What's a few body thetans among friends? Am I right? | Dec 29 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | Martin Van Der Harst When I click the link, I get a liberal hatched job story, with a video. | Dec 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | The video does not include the full quote, You need to check with mom and dad about that, of course." | Dec 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | Me: So, you need to have permission from their mom and dad before you have sex with their.....fifteen year old child.... Well, that makes being a pedophile totally acceptable then! /sarcasm A&E: The Pedophile Network. | Dec 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | It's clear that the fundies want men to marry 15 year old girls, because they are young and naive, and will develop no skills or coping mechanisms for living on their own, and will be more likely to depend on the predator for basic needs for the rest of their life. | Dec 29 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | I've been trolling A&E's facebook wall. | Dec 29 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | I think I've called them everything in the book, including pedophile enablers. | Dec 29 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, I totally understand that a church needs to bring in enough money to keep the lights on, the building maintained, and to pay the pastor/priest a stipend, but some of these organized religions are just awful. They go way beyond that. | Dec 29 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | Televangelism hasn't changed much since the Jim Bakker scandal. He was using the money he brought in to buy all kinds of extravagant things, including an air conditioned dog house for his dogs. They even paid hotel room service to bring them $300 worth of freshly baked cinnamon buns, to make their hotel room smell like cinnamon buns. | Dec 29 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | I am really annoyed to no end with those types. They get people like my mom and grandmother to send them money, and you know what they're all using it for. | Dec 29 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | The Koch Brothers and other Tea Party groups have also taken over those channels, and use them to spew right-wing un-American propaganda. | Dec 29 22:51 |
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| DaemonFC | You know what I say about NIMBYs? We should ignore them. If something is bringing jobs to your area, you shouldn't be allowed to complain about it unless it interferes with the actual use of your property. | Dec 29 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of NIMBYs that are protesting wind farms. I think there ought to be a law that stops local governments from being able to refuse them. The climate crisis so urgently needs to be dealt with, that the wind farm needs to take top priority over the people who shout "OMG! That's going to totally be visible from my house!". | Dec 29 23:01 |
| DaemonFC | Just out of curiosity, I searched for some benchmarks comparing Apple's A7 processor (PowerPC architecture, in the iPhone 5s) to the Snapdragon 800 (armv7 architecture, which powers high end Android and Windows phones). | Dec 29 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | The Snapdragon 600 is faster than the Apple A7, and the Snapdragon 800 is much faster than the A7. | Dec 29 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | The Snapdragon 805 will be out next year, and may even end up in the Samsung Galaxy S5, but if you're looking for a phone today, you'll want the Snapdragon 800. | Dec 29 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | It's in my LG G2, and I couldn't be more impressed with the performance or battery life. Qualcomm really hit this one out of the ballpark. And the phones that have the Snapdragon 800 CPU are hundreds of dollars cheaper than iPhone 5s. | Dec 29 23:05 |
| MinceR | except A7 is ARM. | Dec 29 23:06 |
| DaemonFC | I thought it was PPC? | Dec 29 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | No? | Dec 29 23:07 |
| MinceR | it's an ARM, according to wikipedia | Dec 29 23:07 |
| MinceR | (and according to my memory as well) | Dec 29 23:07 |
| DaemonFC | The only test that the iPhone 5s did better on than my LG G2 is the Sunspider Javascript benchmark, which was written by Apple. | Dec 29 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | And you'd expect that their own web browser would ace that. | Dec 29 23:08 |
| DaemonFC | Technically, the A7 should be better, but the phone benchmarks on the iPhone are actually worse than the top Android phones with the Snapdragon processors. | Dec 29 23:09 |
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| DaemonFC | I suppose it could all boil down to Android being a better operating system. | Dec 29 23:09 |
| MinceR | i wonder if hypeOS (and OSuX) still uses the frankenkernel | Dec 29 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | The difference between the LG G2 and Nexus 5 are significant. | Dec 29 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | The only major difference is that the G2 has Android 4.2.2, and the Nexus 5 has Android 4.4 | Dec 29 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | The Nexus 5 hardware is the same. | Dec 29 23:10 |
| DaemonFC | So, maybe when they upgrade the G2 to Android 4.4, further benchmarking is in order. | Dec 29 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 29 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | I heard that LG is rolling out the Android 4.4 update in certain areas right now. I haven't received it yet. | Dec 29 23:11 |
| DaemonFC | I've had one upgrade since I got the phone. It just fixed two bugs in Android 4.2.2 though. | Dec 29 23:11 |
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| DaemonFC | "Gays don't go to Heaven." Who died and made you God? | Dec 29 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Like · a few seconds ago | Dec 29 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | Jeff Jerry Webb Well good luck on the upcoming marriage. Which one of you will wear the gown? And which one of you will bear the children? Oh, I forgot that child bearing can only be possible if one of you is actually a female. Well good luck anyway and maybe we'll meet in Heaven. Silly me, I keep forgetting that gays don't go to Heaven. | Dec 29 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | Me: I never wanted children anyway. My bf is already basically raising the children that his good for nothing cousin produced. The most reproductive straight people are often the least productive. His cousin sits around all day and smokes that K2 Spice crap. Leaves the kids with my bf. My bf's cousin was mad when his kids started calling my bf "daddy". My bf is a really spectacular person. He stepped up and made sure that those kids have fo | Dec 29 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | od to eat and go to school every day, and they aren't even his kids! Oh, and, we'll both be wearing suits. | Dec 29 23:37 |
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| Sosumi | crapple could be cheating on the benchmarks just like samsung did | Dec 30 00:30 |
| Sosumi | but there's no way to know | Dec 30 00:30 |
| Sosumi | also what made you think that the A7 was PPC, that was fun | Dec 30 00:31 |
| Sosumi | and gays don't go to heaven | Dec 30 00:35 |
| Sosumi | they're buried or cremated just like everyone else is | Dec 30 00:35 |
| Sosumi | when they die, that is | Dec 30 00:35 |
| Sosumi | and before I forget | Dec 30 00:36 |
| Sosumi | when you see the iphone beating an "equivalent" high end device | Dec 30 00:37 |
| Sosumi | keep in mind that the iphone has a lower resolution screen | Dec 30 00:37 |
| Sosumi | and that beating equals at most 7 to 10 frames | Dec 30 00:38 |
| MinceR | it's an oxymoron anyway | Dec 30 00:38 |
| MinceR | the hypePhone is not a high end device | Dec 30 00:38 |
| Sosumi | nop, it's just like one of those luxuary phones | Dec 30 00:39 |
| MinceR | even worse | Dec 30 00:39 |
| Sosumi | like a vertu or those overpriced nokias | Dec 30 00:39 |
| MinceR | at least luxury phones ran symbian and android, afaik | Dec 30 00:39 |
| MinceR | even if they had relatively weak hardware | Dec 30 00:39 |
| Sosumi | I wouldn't be concerned too much about the lolphone | Dec 30 00:47 |
| Sosumi | they seem to only be popular inside the US | Dec 30 00:48 |
| Sosumi | but outside it is another story | Dec 30 00:48 |
| DaemonFC | The Moto G is a good all-around phone if you're in the market for an unlocked phone. | Dec 30 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | But, if you're going contract, at least get a G2 or the Nexus 5. | Dec 30 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | There's no point in getting the Moto G over the Nexus 5 if They're both the same price with a contract. The Nexus 5 is a much nicer phone. | Dec 30 00:53 |
| DaemonFC | Those prepaid companies are peddling crap. | Dec 30 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | They can afford to be cheap because they're basically giving you the crumbs from the big name carriers. | Dec 30 00:54 |
| Sosumi | motorola doesn't sell their stuff in portugal | Dec 30 00:54 |
| Sosumi | also no such thing as contract phones here | Dec 30 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint lets you upgrade every 20 months at the subsidized prices. | Dec 30 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | It restarts your two year contract though. | Dec 30 00:55 |
| Sosumi | nexus 5, G2 and so on are either sold locked or unlocked | Dec 30 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | You can keep using your old phone and go month to month, but the monthly price stays the same. | Dec 30 00:55 |
| Sosumi | and locked only means at most 90€ discount over the unlocked price | Dec 30 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | Oh. The federal government just entered into an agreement with Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint. | Dec 30 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | They have to unlock your phone after your contract is up. | Dec 30 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | So when my contract is over, I could demand that Sprint unlocks my phone. | Dec 30 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | Then I can take my phone to any other carrier and keep using it. | Dec 30 00:56 |
| Sosumi | they do the same here, but it's after 2 years | Dec 30 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. So, if I want to save some money when the contract is up, I just tell Sprint to unlock the phone, then I can activate it on one of the prepaid networks. | Dec 30 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | So, you basically own the phone when the contract is up. | Dec 30 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | I have a feeling that that will cause the major carriers to offer some "deals" when your contract is about up. | Dec 30 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't be surprised to see Sprint offer some high end phones with a small up front payment. Maybe even no up front payment. | Dec 30 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | They charge enough for the service that they can give the phones away. | Dec 30 00:58 |
| DaemonFC | Razors and blades. | Dec 30 00:58 |
| Sosumi | with all the info they collect, carriers, NSA/CIA and so on, Google, M$, Apple | Dec 30 01:00 |
| Sosumi | I wonder why they don't give them for free | Dec 30 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | They were paying people to take iPhone 5c over Christmas. | Dec 30 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | You paid $49 for it and they gave you a $75 Walmart gift card. | Dec 30 01:03 |
| Sosumi | LOOOOL | Dec 30 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | I wasn't really considering it though. In the end you've not only got an iPhone, eww, but the slowest model sell. | Dec 30 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | *they sell | Dec 30 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency | Dec 30 01:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Reserve currency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ga5fc ] | Dec 30 01:06 |
| MinceR | at least a negative value is closer to its actual worth | Dec 30 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | The US Dollar is not only remarkably stable, it's actually gaining again. Slowly. Mostly at the expense of the Euro. | Dec 30 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | The European Central Bank is performing so badly, that it's actually scaring people back into the market for US Dollars. | Dec 30 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that's a good thing for us, for now. | Dec 30 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | It keeps imports cheap and increases our buying power for the time being. | Dec 30 01:08 |
| Sosumi | damaging exports | Dec 30 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | Exports are up, actually. | Dec 30 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | Especially American-built cars. | Dec 30 01:08 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 30 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | Well, what's going on is that the foreign car makers are setting up in the southern US states. | Dec 30 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | They like the "business climate" of no taxes and low wages. | Dec 30 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | They can build their cars here and sell them in other markets cheaper than paying the taxes and wages of other developed countries. | Dec 30 01:10 |
| Sosumi | I see | Dec 30 01:10 |
| DaemonFC | The average wage of a union auto worker in Michigan is about $20 an hour. | Dec 30 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | The average wage of a non-union auto worker in Alabama is about $11-12 an hour. | Dec 30 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | I can tell you which one I'd rather drive though. | Dec 30 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | Ford still makes better cars and trucks than other companies that build cars here. | Dec 30 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to have one of their new F-150s. The ones that they'll be making out of aluminum here in a year or two. | Dec 30 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | They said they expect to get the weight down by over 700 pounds, and the gas mileage up over 30 miles per gallon. | Dec 30 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | That's pretty good for a pickup truck. | Dec 30 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | It's kind of ridiculous to keep making auto bodies out of steel. | Dec 30 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | It's heavy, it's expensive. | Dec 30 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nbcnews.com/business/set-detroit-debut-fords-aluminum-f-150-2D11812834 | Dec 30 01:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.nbcnews.com | Set for Detroit debut: Ford's aluminum F-150 - NBC News.com [ http://ur1.ca/ga5in ] | Dec 30 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | The 2015 Mustang is looking good too. | Dec 30 01:14 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 30 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, I specifically set out looking for a Crown Victoria this year. | Dec 30 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | I bought a 1996 one. | Dec 30 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | I've been pretty impressed. I'm getting better gas mileage than the Taurus was, and the car is much faster. | Dec 30 01:17 |
| Sosumi | well, that's nice | Dec 30 01:17 |
| Cirrus_Minor | http://linuxgizmos.com/open-sbc-runs-linux-on-quad-core-exynos-4412/ | Dec 30 01:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | linuxgizmos.com | $59 open SBC runs Linux on quad-core Exynos · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/g9qcx ] | Dec 30 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, I don't like the newer cars. | Dec 30 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | They've gotten so small. | Dec 30 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | No leg room. | Dec 30 01:19 |
| Sosumi | what's your height? | Dec 30 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | 6' 4" | Dec 30 01:20 |
| Sosumi | meters | Dec 30 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | 1.9304 | Dec 30 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 30 01:21 |
| Sosumi | you're a giant | Dec 30 01:21 |
| Sosumi | I'm only 1.73 | Dec 30 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | I used to think so. | Dec 30 01:22 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting more common to see people of my height, or taller. | Dec 30 01:22 |
| Sosumi | we hobbits will prevail no matter what | Dec 30 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | This Spotify Radio is quite good. | Dec 30 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | Much better than Last.FM. | Dec 30 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | Last.FM was getting worse and it just kind of lingered on for a while. | Dec 30 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | Near the end, they lost access to so much music that it was the same few songs over and over again. | Dec 30 01:39 |
| Sosumi | never used them, nor bothered checking what they were all about | Dec 30 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | Spotify Radio is free on Android now. | Dec 30 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | If you want the ability to choose what it's playing or more than 6 skips per hour, you pay $9.99 a month. | Dec 30 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like choosing what it plays. I like the radio better. | Dec 30 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | It surprises me. | Dec 30 01:43 |
| Sosumi | hum... | Dec 30 01:43 |
| *DaemonFC is shopping for OTC medications on Amazon. | Dec 30 01:43 | |
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| Sosumi | I think it's much better to buy a big 64GB card and put all your music in it | Dec 30 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | People with warehouse club memberships buy it real cheap and then mark it up a few bucks and sell it on Amazon. | Dec 30 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | Works out for me. I don't want to buy a $60 a year membership to Costco in Fort Wayne so I can save $10-15 a year. | Dec 30 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 30 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | No point in that. | Dec 30 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | This stuff is still cheaper than at Walmart. | Dec 30 01:44 |
| Sosumi | the meds? | Dec 30 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 30 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | The savings are small, but they add up. | Dec 30 01:45 |
| Sosumi | I thought everything could be cured with a bottle of vodka | Dec 30 01:46 |
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| DaemonFC | I just buy the jumbo bottles and I saved like $4 on one and $17 on the other. | Dec 30 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | $21 | Dec 30 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | Have to buy a year's worth, but oh well. | Dec 30 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 30 01:46 |
| Sosumi | they don't do that here :) | Dec 30 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | I've done this for about 5 years now, so that's a little over $100. | Dec 30 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | It's not nothing. :) | Dec 30 01:47 |
| Sosumi | you buy a box of wathever in units of 15 or 20 | Dec 30 01:47 |
| Sosumi | depending on the kind of med | Dec 30 01:47 |
| Sosumi | but no jumbo boxes | Dec 30 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Spotify's web player wants Flash. | Dec 30 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | Bleh! | Dec 30 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I could get Chrome just to leave open in the background. | Dec 30 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | The NPAPI version has sprung so many leaks that it really scares me to even have it installed. | Dec 30 01:52 |
| Sosumi | NPAPI? | Dec 30 01:52 |
| Cirrus_Minor | DaemonFC: ... | Dec 30 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | Netscape Plugin API | Dec 30 01:56 |
| Cirrus_Minor | i pkd thios for aur heres a standalone py script https://gist.github.com/cirrusUK | Dec 30 01:56 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gist.github.com | cirrusUK's Gists | Dec 30 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | The one that Firefox uses. | Dec 30 01:56 |
| Cirrus_Minor | poor mans spotify, its preddy awesome, play,search,download almost any song faster than any other method | Dec 30 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | The way Chrome runs plugins is safer. | Dec 30 01:57 |
| DaemonFC | It wouldn't do Firefox any good to implement Pepper though, because Adobe still wouldn't ship a standalone Flash plugin, and Firefox can't bundle it or they would not be Free. | Dec 30 01:58 |
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| DaemonFC | Sosumi, I do a lot of stuff like that. Bulk buying when I can get a really good deal. | Dec 30 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | It takes a long time for the savings to be fully realized, but on average, it saves me a few hundred dollars a year. | Dec 30 02:19 |
| Sosumi | yeah, no worries I can see that | Dec 30 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Dec 30 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | No Spotify app in the Windows store. | Dec 30 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | That must be embarrassing for Microsoft. | Dec 30 02:34 |
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| DaemonFC | Stocking my medicine cabinet with Costco-brand stuff that people sell on Amazon. | Dec 30 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | What's funny is that they can buy it at Costco, mark it up 50%, pay to ship it to an Amazon Warehouse, pay Amazon to ship it to me, and still be about 33% less expensive than Walmart. | Dec 30 03:13 |
| DaemonFC | McDonalds has shut down their "McResource" website, after being mercilessly lampooned for making out an employee budget that includes income from a second job, doesn't factor in heating or food, that still doesn't balance out, then telling employees to take two vacations per year, and how to tip their pool cleaner and personal masseuse. | Dec 30 03:19 |
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| DaemonFC | My mom was kind of shocked when I gave someone the advice of lying on a job application. | Dec 30 03:32 |
| DaemonFC | I told him to just say he had a high school diploma and to make up some job he never had and then get a relative with a different last name to play along. | Dec 30 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | She said "If they find out, they can fire him!". | Dec 30 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | I said "If he doesn't tell them this, he won't get the job and then he'll starve." | Dec 30 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | She doesn't know what it's like out there right now. | Dec 30 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | When there's three people competing over every job opening, and you have severe disadvantages, the only thing to do is lie so that they don't just toss your application in the trash. | Dec 30 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | It sucks, but it's what you have to do. | Dec 30 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETwl1BUHcXs | Dec 30 03:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Bo Burnham - 04 WDIDLN (what. album) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ga6tp ] | Dec 30 03:51 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link via Gizmodo. | Dec 30 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | 7 seconds ago | Dec 30 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://gizmo.do/BXpMAVr | Dec 30 04:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gizmodo.com | A Maximally Simple Breathalyzer Makes Sense for Drunk People | Dec 30 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | I'd have to be drunk before I bought an iPhone, so there'd be no point in having this app. | Dec 30 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | There's a bargain. | Dec 30 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | A year's worth of my allergy pills for $18.85 | Dec 30 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart's generic of the same medication is $20 for a 90 day supply. | Dec 30 05:10 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/27/video-violent-game-of-knockout-breaks-out-at-brooklyn-mall-after-hundreds-of-teens-plan-mass-looting-on-facebook-twitter/ | Dec 30 11:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theblaze.com | VIDEO: Violent Game of ‘Knockout’ Breaks Out at Brooklyn Mall After Hundreds of Teens Plan Mass Looting on Facebook, Twitter | Video | TheBlaze.com [ http://ur1.ca/ga92f ] | Dec 30 11:27 |
| Sosumi | was NSA watching porn again? | Dec 30 11:28 |
| Sosumi | instead of working | Dec 30 11:28 |
| iophk | Vista8 getting piggybacked onto regular Android machines: http://hothardware.com/News/PC-Plus-Machines-Being-Prepped-For-CES-To-Run-Android-On-Windows-In-Retaliation-Against-MSFT/ | Dec 30 11:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | hothardware.com | 'PC Plus' Machines Being Prepped For CES To Run Android On Windows In Retaliation Against MSFT - HotHardware [ http://ur1.ca/ga971 ] | Dec 30 11:58 |
| iophk | Android machines to run Vista8 in retaliation against ? | Dec 30 11:58 |
| iophk | A resurfacing of the 'windows too' tactic. | Dec 30 11:58 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/12/wii-u-gamepad-hacked-reverse-engineered-to-steam-from-a-pc/ | Dec 30 17:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Wii U gamepad hacked, reverse engineered to stream from a PC | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gaagc ] | Dec 30 17:44 |
| Sosumi | wii u | Dec 30 17:44 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 30 17:44 |
| Sosumi | think of a game gear broken in two parts | Dec 30 17:45 |
| Sosumi | but instead of taking 6 AA batteries | Dec 30 17:45 |
| Sosumi | you need to carry an UPS on your backpack | Dec 30 17:45 |
| Sosumi | just try to pack one 3000VA UPS from APC | Dec 30 17:48 |
| Sosumi | I think one of those weight as much as 80KG | Dec 30 17:48 |
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| Sosumi | scary, even a simple 1500VA ups is scary | Dec 30 17:49 |
| MinceR | mine is 800 VA :> | Dec 30 17:49 |
| Sosumi | I had a 800VA UPS back in 2002 | Dec 30 17:51 |
| Sosumi | from MGE | Dec 30 17:51 |
| Sosumi | but for some reason it ended up in flames 3 years later | Dec 30 17:52 |
| MinceR | mine is from Eaton, successor to MGE | Dec 30 17:53 |
| Sosumi | after that happened I contacted MGE and they offered me discount | Dec 30 17:53 |
| Sosumi | *a | Dec 30 17:53 |
| Sosumi | and picked a 1200VA model which I still have around, now serving a audio system+TV | Dec 30 17:54 |
| Sosumi | both models were ellipse premium | Dec 30 17:54 |
| Sosumi | your typical 500€ UPS | Dec 30 17:55 |
| Sosumi | but back in 2009 had to jump to 2200VA and got an apc from the SUA series | Dec 30 17:56 |
| Sosumi | it has been nice and it actually mitigates powerline issues | Dec 30 17:56 |
| Sosumi | also, wasn't MGE bought by the schneier electric group? | Dec 30 17:58 |
| Sosumi | which also owns APC | Dec 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | i think it was split up and bought by multiple entities | Dec 30 17:58 |
| MinceR | apparently part of it indeed ended up at Schneider Electric | Dec 30 17:59 |
| MinceR | they combined APC with MGE UPS Systems | Dec 30 17:59 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 30 17:59 |
| MinceR | Eaton bought MGE Office Protection Systems | Dec 30 17:59 |
| Sosumi | so I guess that means UPSs made in India | Dec 30 18:00 |
| Sosumi | just like my APC | Dec 30 18:00 |
| Sosumi | while the MGEs were at least assembled in france | Dec 30 18:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 30 18:00 |
| Sosumi | I guess that was why one of them ended up surrendering in such way | Dec 30 18:01 |
| Sosumi | frenchies... | Dec 30 18:01 |
| MinceR | "In late 2007, [Eaton Corporation] acquired the MGE Office Protection Systems division of Schneider Electric, as a result of Schneider's acquisition of APC." | Dec 30 18:02 |
| MinceR | strange | Dec 30 18:02 |
| MinceR | maybe they were under pressure due to antitrust regulations | Dec 30 18:02 |
| Sosumi | probably | Dec 30 18:02 |
| schestowitz | [11:58] <iophk> Android machines to run Vista8 in retaliation against ? | Dec 30 18:06 |
| schestowitz | If it's Android on PCs, then it's OK | Dec 30 18:06 |
| schestowitz | If Windows on phones and tablets, we're losing there | Dec 30 18:06 |
| schestowitz | In this case it's a loss to MSFT, I think | Dec 30 18:07 |
| Sosumi | why bother with windows mobile, it's trash | Dec 30 18:10 |
| Sosumi | it doesn't even have basic stuff that is even available on iphone os | Dec 30 18:10 |
| Sosumi | pfff M$ | Dec 30 18:10 |
| iophk | Android on notebooks is ok but why the extra baggage of Vista8? | Dec 30 18:11 |
| Sosumi | neither of them make sense on notebooks | Dec 30 18:12 |
| Sosumi | why limit the notebook to android aka google crap and ms junk | Dec 30 18:12 |
| Sosumi | when you can put some gnu/linux distro | Dec 30 18:12 |
| schestowitz | iophk: better than win only | Dec 30 18:12 |
| iophk | yes, it is that | Dec 30 18:13 |
| Sosumi | if that removes the need to pay the software licence | Dec 30 18:13 |
| Sosumi | then it is ok | Dec 30 18:13 |
| iophk | I suspect that the dual boot is a compromise to appease M$ | Dec 30 18:13 |
| Sosumi | as many laptops are actually requiring you to boot linux and accept the licence | Dec 30 18:14 |
| iophk | GPL EULA? | Dec 30 18:14 |
| Sosumi | before you reboot to access the bios and boot from an USB stick to install some distro | Dec 30 18:14 |
| Sosumi | *I meant boot windows | Dec 30 18:14 |
| Sosumi | *too much multitasking* | Dec 30 18:15 |
| iophk | Isn't that impossible with UEFI now? | Dec 30 18:15 |
| Sosumi | yeah with EFI, it applies to those | Dec 30 18:15 |
| iophk | http://rt.com/news/underreported-news-stories-2013-836/ | Dec 30 18:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | rt.com | Swartz, Fracking, Manning, GMO: 13 most underreported news stories of 2013 — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/g9s0f ] | Dec 30 18:16 |
| Sosumi | in those you need to boot winblows instead of going directly to the bios and booting from a usb stick | Dec 30 18:16 |
| Sosumi | that's what I meant | Dec 30 18:16 |
| iophk | http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/12/aaron-swartz-obituary-101418.html | Dec 30 18:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.politico.com | Why They Mattered: Aaron Swartz - Lawrence Lessig - POLITICO Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/g92p3 ] | Dec 30 18:16 |
| Sosumi | but I can't tell about newer models, specially consumer models | Dec 30 18:17 |
| iophk | some are locked down | Dec 30 18:19 |
| iophk | http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2013/12/30/nokias-new-2520-tablet-is-one-to-avoid.html | Dec 30 18:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dispatch.com | Nokia’s new 2520 tablet is one to avoid | The Columbus Dispatch [ http://ur1.ca/gaaoa ] | Dec 30 18:19 |
| Sosumi | nokia is dead | Dec 30 18:20 |
| iophk | quite dead | Dec 30 18:20 |
| Sosumi | and their last kewl phone was the E7 | Dec 30 18:20 |
| Sosumi | actually all their E series were quite nice | Dec 30 18:21 |
| Sosumi | http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e7-3545.php | Dec 30 18:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.gsmarena.com | Nokia E7 - Full phone specifications [ http://ur1.ca/gaaol ] | Dec 30 18:22 |
| iophk | http://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia | Dec 30 18:22 |
| iophk | M$ left them with the patents, risking turning them into a patent troll | Dec 30 18:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | seekingalpha.com | Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NOK): How Stephen Elop Destroyed Nokia [Apple Inc., Google Inc] - Seeking Alpha [ http://ur1.ca/eiog3 ] | Dec 30 18:22 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: windows mobile is dead. they're bothering with windows phone, which is much worse. | Dec 30 18:22 |
| Sosumi | should have gotten that one when it was available | Dec 30 18:22 |
| Sosumi | you can beat a dead horse | Dec 30 18:22 |
| MinceR | and the nokia E series was always lacking in features, iirc | Dec 30 18:22 |
| Sosumi | but no matter how hard you beat, it'll never move | Dec 30 18:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 30 18:23 |
| Sosumi | E series were good enough for me | Dec 30 18:23 |
| iophk | Wikipedia has been sanitized by M$ boosters: | Dec 30 18:23 |
| iophk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elop_effect | Dec 30 18:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Stephen Elop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 30 18:23 |
| iophk | the page redirects | Dec 30 18:23 |
| Sosumi | and had decent build quality with some metal shells, etc | Dec 30 18:24 |
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| Sosumi | and I was checking Bill Binney's interview on infowhores | Dec 30 18:31 |
| Sosumi | until... | Dec 30 18:31 |
| Sosumi | AJ is now selling coffee | Dec 30 18:32 |
| Sosumi | will now Kim Jong Un want to attack the US in order to steal AJ's forty years supply of coffee | Dec 30 18:33 |
| Sosumi | ofc I'm joking about AJ's "<patrito> packs" | Dec 30 18:34 |
| Sosumi | *patriot | Dec 30 18:34 |
| iophk | (08:10:23 PM) schestowitz: iophk: better than win only | Dec 30 18:36 |
| iophk | It would be interesting to know the background. Was it a M$ only machine that was negotiated into dual boot with Android? Or was it an Android machine saddled with M$ at the last minute? | Dec 30 18:36 |
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| iophk | http://mashable.com/2013/12/30/why-chromebooks-beat-macs-in-commercial-sales-in-2013/ | Dec 30 19:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mashable.com | Why Chromebooks Are Beating MacBooks [ http://ur1.ca/gaayc ] | Dec 30 19:41 |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/2013-a-linux-christmas-7000024666/ | Dec 30 20:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | 2013: A Linux Christmas | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gab1l ] | Dec 30 20:04 |
| iophk | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/10-disappointments-for-open-source-in-2013/ | Dec 30 20:07 |
| iophk | #10?? | Dec 30 20:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techrepublic.com | 10 disappointments for open source in 2013 - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/gab23 ] | Dec 30 20:07 |
| MinceR | i suspect he meant to say "GNU/Linux tablet", but even those exist... | Dec 30 20:08 |
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| Sosumi | it's jack wallen | Dec 30 20:34 |
| Sosumi | I remember reading some jokes about him around somewhere | Dec 30 20:35 |
| Sosumi | because of something he posted on HFS and ext4 | Dec 30 20:35 |
| Sosumi | or NTFS | Dec 30 20:35 |
| Sosumi | I don't remember | Dec 30 20:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3463765 | Dec 30 20:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Buying train tickets in the #uk anonymously still possible, but using free Wi-Fi (anonymously) requires buying First Class tickets | Dec 30 20:43 |
| schestowitz | "they only think they are anonymous" | Dec 30 20:43 |
| schestowitz | The illusion of privacy is more dangerous than none -- leading you to self-incarceration | Dec 30 20:44 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3460805 | Dec 30 20:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: As #TSA & other enemies of human rights ask for 'right' to tamper with devices in roads/airports they basically want to bias/select evidence | Dec 30 20:54 |
| schestowitz | "Well, yes. What's interesting is they ask for what they have been doing for more than a decade. I've had my laptops confiscated to be inspected out of sight several times. Now they put their hands in people's crotches, I can't imagine what they were doing to my laptop." | Dec 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Wow, under what authority did they take the laptop in the first place? Is it legal? | Dec 30 20:55 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: Wallen is quite OK | Dec 30 21:05 |
| schestowitz | when you don't agree with him, it's worth debating rather than bashing | Dec 30 21:05 |
| schestowitz | same for SJVN | Dec 30 21:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3464779 | Dec 30 21:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Who's the "rogue state" now? http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/29/5253226/nsa-cia-fbi-laptop-usb-plant-spy Notice the disgusting lies from #nsa partners #microsoft and #cisco | Dec 30 21:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theverge.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gab70 ] | Dec 30 21:06 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ6kOvO1SUE | Dec 30 21:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | mr.popo called it - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gabbu ] | Dec 30 21:06 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.dailydot.com/politics/nsa-backdoor-iphone-access-camera-mic-appelbaum/ | Dec 30 21:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailydot.com | The Daily Dot - The NSA has nearly complete backdoor access to Apple's iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gabgu ] | Dec 30 21:44 |
| MinceR | as expected | Dec 30 21:45 |
| Sosumi | well captain obvious appelbaum | Dec 30 21:46 |
| goblin_ | Wow, under what authority did they take the laptop in the first place? Is it legal? - Quite legal. Forgetting the condition of entry to any airport there's section 60 or a plethora of other powers they can use. | Dec 30 21:47 |
| Sosumi | apple's stuff is easily exploitable | Dec 30 21:48 |
| Sosumi | they were even jailbraking iphones through the built in browser a while a go | Dec 30 21:48 |
| goblin_ | I would suggest that the only good iPhone is a jailbroken one. | Dec 30 21:49 |
| Sosumi | naaah | Dec 30 21:49 |
| goblin_ | never owned one though. | Dec 30 21:49 |
| Sosumi | it messes the entire thing | Dec 30 21:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.democracynow.org/2013/12/30/glenn_greenwald_the_nsa_can_literally | Dec 30 21:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.democracynow.org | Glenn Greenwald: The NSA Can "Literally Watch Every Keystroke You Make" | Democracy Now! [ http://ur1.ca/gabhd ] | Dec 30 21:49 |
| MinceR | still an inferior substitute for a real smartphone | Dec 30 21:50 |
| Sosumi | from what I read, encryption wont work | Dec 30 21:50 |
| Sosumi | the only real smartphones around are the nexus phones | Dec 30 21:50 |
| Sosumi | those are the only ones in which you wont have a problem installing your own cooked roms | Dec 30 21:50 |
| MinceR | why those? | Dec 30 21:50 |
| Sosumi | because you void the warranty on the others | Dec 30 21:51 |
| Sosumi | I think | Dec 30 21:51 |
| MinceR | i think it depends on the manufacturer | Dec 30 21:51 |
| MinceR | also if it voids the warranty on the hw or just the sw | Dec 30 21:51 |
| Sosumi | hardware, if the cooked rom bricks the phone | Dec 30 21:51 |
| Sosumi | the manufacturer may refuse to repair the device under warranty | Dec 30 21:52 |
| MinceR | i suspect that if you brick a nexus device by flashing it, the warranty won't cover that either | Dec 30 21:52 |
| Sosumi | ho, ouch :) | Dec 30 21:52 |
| MinceR | i really like the way the Raspberry Pi is unbrickable | Dec 30 21:53 |
| Sosumi | does samsung/lg et all release the source code of their android builds and drivers? | Dec 30 21:53 |
| MinceR | not sure | Dec 30 21:54 |
| MinceR | it seems that eventually samsung did release the code cyanogenmod wanted | Dec 30 21:54 |
| Sosumi | well, that is good | Dec 30 21:54 |
| MinceR | but that is indeed easier in the case of nexus devices | Dec 30 21:54 |
| Sosumi | but with the nexus, you actually have the source code | Dec 30 21:55 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 30 21:55 |
| MinceR | though i wonder how the google experience launcher is handled in the case of the nexus 5 | Dec 30 21:55 |
| Sosumi | no idea, | Dec 30 21:55 |
| Sosumi | I'm still holding for a 32GB nexus 5 | Dec 30 21:55 |
| Sosumi | at this moment only the 16GB model is available | Dec 30 21:55 |
| Sosumi | but the from a generalized POV, only the nexus series behave like a true smartphone | Dec 30 21:56 |
| Sosumi | with the other devices you're actually at the mercy of the manufacturer | Dec 30 21:56 |
| Sosumi | just like the iphone | Dec 30 21:57 |
| Sosumi | although in a less restricted way | Dec 30 21:57 |
| Sosumi | with iphone you can't even load your own apps without going through apple's control and paying 99€ | Dec 30 21:58 |
| Sosumi | for something that you just want to use yourself | Dec 30 21:58 |
| Sosumi | also, it is widely known that these devices have kill switches and backdoors by default | Dec 30 21:59 |
| Sosumi | saying the nsa this or that is plain dumb | Dec 30 22:00 |
| Sosumi | they are already there | Dec 30 22:00 |
| MinceR | we need more smartphones that communicate with the radio cpu over serial link | Dec 30 22:00 |
| MinceR | as opposed to DMA | Dec 30 22:00 |
| Sosumi | well, and you don't have access to source code that runs those quallcomm modules | Dec 30 22:01 |
| MinceR | that would be nice too | Dec 30 22:01 |
| MinceR | but the serial link would already be a great step toward having security | Dec 30 22:01 |
| Sosumi | probably | Dec 30 22:02 |
| MinceR | now i encountered a "vevo" video on youtube that DownloadHelper couldn't save, but offliberty could save it | Dec 30 22:04 |
| Sosumi | what surprises me in this is crapple | Dec 30 22:16 |
| Sosumi | the company with the bitten apple, symbolizing the fruit bitten by the original man from the tree of knowledge | Dec 30 22:19 |
| Sosumi | ought to know better | Dec 30 22:19 |
| Sosumi | but it seems like they don't | Dec 30 22:19 |
| MinceR | they ought to know that story is false :> | Dec 30 22:19 |
| Sosumi | or refuse to acknowledge their flaws | Dec 30 22:19 |
| Sosumi | it's an allegory | Dec 30 22:20 |
| Sosumi | everything in the bible is | Dec 30 22:20 |
| Sosumi | just like the foundations of other religions | Dec 30 22:20 |
| MinceR | it's abrahamic religion's way of saying "you're evil because wanting knowledge is evil" and "you're punished for the sins of your ancestors" | Dec 30 22:20 |
| Sosumi | but it sets the example | Dec 30 22:20 |
| MinceR | it shows how much their supposed morality is worth | Dec 30 22:20 |
| Sosumi | but using the same stuff | Dec 30 22:21 |
| MinceR | abrahamic religion is a huge setback to human development | Dec 30 22:21 |
| Sosumi | if you've studied eastern mysticism, those religions say the material world is wrong and you should purge yourself of desires of the flesh | Dec 30 22:22 |
| MinceR | what would i be left with? | Dec 30 22:22 |
| Sosumi | with a dull life | Dec 30 22:22 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound like it's worth the trouble | Dec 30 22:23 |
| Sosumi | but having a god materialize into this world, aka jesus, that means the material world isn't all that bad | Dec 30 22:23 |
| Sosumi | and well | Dec 30 22:23 |
| Sosumi | when seth chopped osiris into 13 pieces and scattered them around | Dec 30 22:24 |
| MinceR | having an evil, childish and vengeful god materialize into this world? that's pretty bad | Dec 30 22:24 |
| Sosumi | isis set on a journey to recover them | Dec 30 22:25 |
| Sosumi | recovering all of them except one | Dec 30 22:25 |
| Sosumi | his phalus | Dec 30 22:25 |
| Sosumi | then she carved a phallus for her deceased brother/lover | Dec 30 22:25 |
| Sosumi | and with "magic" she impregnated herself | Dec 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | <Sosumi> I'm still holding for a 32GB nexus 5 | Dec 30 22:26 |
| Sosumi | gaving to birth Horus | Dec 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | I went for the LG G2 because the hardware is substantially similar to Nexus 5. | Dec 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | But, all the Nexus 5 contract phones are 16 GB. | Dec 30 22:26 |
| Sosumi | so Horus is Osiris born again | Dec 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | 32 GB is a massive amount of storage for an Android device. | Dec 30 22:26 |
| Sosumi | and when the SUN-SETHS the cycle is repeated again | Dec 30 22:27 |
| Sosumi | you see, religion is just natural phenomena and astrological stuff told in certain particular way | Dec 30 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't want to go 16, because that might not be enough, but I've installed tons of apps and games, and I already have over a hundred high-res photos, and I still have like 23 GB available. | Dec 30 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | So, 16 GB is probably sufficient, but 32 is better. | Dec 30 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | 32 basically means you should never run out of storage, which is good. | Dec 30 22:28 |
| Sosumi | I scan a lot of books and my music library is huge | Dec 30 22:28 |
| Sosumi | and all lossless | Dec 30 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Apps only tend to be like 1-5 MB for basic ones. | Dec 30 22:28 |
| Sosumi | plus I have good headphones (sennheiser momentum) | Dec 30 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe 15-20 for large games. | Dec 30 22:28 |
| Sosumi | but I really don't care about games | Dec 30 22:28 |
| DaemonFC | I think the biggest one I've seen was GTA: Vice City, which was over 100, but that's the only one I've seen that topped 100. | Dec 30 22:28 |
| Sosumi | just an doc editor/viewer | Dec 30 22:29 |
| DaemonFC | 32 GB is just a gigantic amount of storage for these things. | Dec 30 22:29 |
| Sosumi | and the typical twitter and google paraphernalia is enough | Dec 30 22:29 |
| MinceR | religion is more like people making up shit to answer questions they don't know the answer to | Dec 30 22:30 |
| MinceR | and then pretending that now they know the answers | Dec 30 22:30 |
| MinceR | and they stop looking for answers | Dec 30 22:30 |
| MinceR | and attack anyone who dares | Dec 30 22:30 |
| Sosumi | well you see... | Dec 30 22:30 |
| MinceR | some religions are more tolerant of science, though | Dec 30 22:30 |
| Sosumi | the ancient folks personified inanimate objects like the sun etc | Dec 30 22:31 |
| Sosumi | or even attributed a specific deity to some specific labor | Dec 30 22:31 |
| Sosumi | like a as aspect of a god, or a saint to some trade like fishing, law, birth, etc | Dec 30 22:32 |
| Sosumi | and I really don't blame them | Dec 30 22:32 |
| Sosumi | in a word of uncertainty paranoia is the law | Dec 30 22:32 |
| Sosumi | and you have to cling up to something | Dec 30 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's not necessarily that they don't want to know the answer. | Dec 30 22:33 |
| Sosumi | *world | Dec 30 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone reaches a point where they either can't comprehend the answer to a question, or become stuck with something that can't be determined. | Dec 30 22:34 |
| Sosumi | but that was back then, although there is still way too much backwardness around | Dec 30 22:34 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: it's that the real answer is often "heresy" | Dec 30 22:35 |
| MinceR | and then you have people tortured, threatened, killed, silenced, etc. | Dec 30 22:35 |
| Sosumi | and religion is just not devoting yourself to what some mediator (priest) says that god wants | Dec 30 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I was home schooled for a long time with those LIFEPAC and PACE things. | Dec 30 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | I can verify that some of what is in them is easy to mock. | Dec 30 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | For the most part, I think the material is comparable to what people in public schools will learn in a particular grade. | Dec 30 22:36 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the religious stuff comes in as an addendum. | Dec 30 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | Like "Here's algebra!" and you learn algebra, but then it makes comments like "God gave us math so that....". | Dec 30 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | So, you really do learn the material, but it kind of shoehorn's God into everything. | Dec 30 22:38 |
| Sosumi | it may come under the form of deranged ideas, like malthusianism or uttermost greed | Dec 30 22:38 |
| Sosumi | and actually, god didn't gave us algebra | Dec 30 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Some of it really did challenge my ways of thinking about things, in the opposite way of what they intended though. | Dec 30 22:38 |
| Sosumi | in fact it was the fallen angels expelled from paradise after rebelling against god | Dec 30 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | So, I think it's just as likely to backfire as it is to get the student to accept God as the reason for everything. | Dec 30 22:38 |
| Sosumi | that thought man astrology, math, work with metals, war, etc | Dec 30 22:39 |
| Sosumi | so in fact everything you do is evil | Dec 30 22:39 |
| Sosumi | bow down sinners | Dec 30 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | Like, it points out things like secular humanism and Darwinian Evolution. It tries to discourage you from following that, but the point is that it mentions them. | Dec 30 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | The student may have never even heard of them. | Dec 30 22:39 |
| DaemonFC | So, it encourages some of them to go learn more. | Dec 30 22:40 |
| Sosumi | because for the priesthood, this was a form to keep control over a population or server as advisors to the local warlord | Dec 30 22:40 |
| MinceR | what's "deranged" about malthusianism? | Dec 30 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Some of what those ACE PACE books teach would actually enrage right-wingers. | Dec 30 22:41 |
| Sosumi | it's backwards mentality trying to lock you down from development | Dec 30 22:41 |
| MinceR | that it would stand in the way of humanity's plan of forcing nature into regulating the human population via the most drastic methods? :> | Dec 30 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | I remember that in one book, it had a very anti-Capitalism message to it. | Dec 30 22:41 |
| Sosumi | also, from the darwinian theory | Dec 30 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | It said that we should all make it a goal to lead non-materialistic lives. | Dec 30 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | Then it went into the evils of consumerism and advertising. | Dec 30 22:42 |
| DaemonFC | So, it's not all bad. | Dec 30 22:42 |
| Sosumi | and again the double edged sword | Dec 30 22:42 |
| Sosumi | if a species goes exctint | Dec 30 22:42 |
| Sosumi | it just means that it failed to adapt to the new conditions | Dec 30 22:42 |
| Sosumi | after all, his book was "the origin of the species by means of NATURAL SELECTION" | Dec 30 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | Advertising does anger me. It's a waste of my time. | Dec 30 22:43 |
| Sosumi | evolution came much later | Dec 30 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | I don't have the money to buy most of what is being advertised, so it just makes me feel bad. | Dec 30 22:43 |
| DaemonFC | The only advertising that I really respond to is maybe if I get a coupon for something I was already planning to buy. | Dec 30 22:44 |
| DaemonFC | In this economy, who could really blame me for that? :) | Dec 30 22:44 |
| Sosumi | and actually, you don't have the complete stages of evolution for any species on this planet | Dec 30 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | I go out of my way to stockpile necessities when I get coupons. Like, I went down to the grocery store during one of their "mega events", armed with hundreds of coupons, and I ended up walking out with a cart full of soap, shampoo, deodorant, toothpaste, dish liquid, etc. Just dozens of things I use every day. | Dec 30 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | And most of it was free. | Dec 30 22:45 |
| DaemonFC | So, I'm one of those customers that they really rather wouldn't have. | Dec 30 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | My next stop was ALDI, of course, for all my groceries. So the store and the manufacturers that had the sale and coupons lost money on me when I used them in that manner. | Dec 30 22:46 |
| DaemonFC | If everyone was like me, they'd soon be out of business. | Dec 30 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | I see it as a good thing to do, because it forced those companies to dump hundreds of dollars into the economy. | Dec 30 22:47 |
| DaemonFC | It created paid work for people, it had all those knock-on effects, then I walked out of the store with hundreds of dollars in my pocket that I spend somewhere else. | Dec 30 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | And they can afford that. None of them pay their fucking taxes, so people should see opportunities like this and "Get 'em!". | Dec 30 22:48 |
| DaemonFC | So, I see couponing as a desirable and maybe even patriotic thing to do. It forces private business to stimulate the economy. | Dec 30 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | The government sure as hell isn't planning to do that. | Dec 30 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | The stores and manufacturers would lose money, and it would drive prices up, and then people will start going to stores that don't do heavy marketing and can keep their prices low. | Dec 30 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | Like ALDI. | Dec 30 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | In the short term, billions of dollars get flushed back out of the hands of millionaires and billionaires, and into the productive economy. | Dec 30 22:50 |
| DaemonFC | What's not to love? | Dec 30 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | In the short term, there's more work and more jobs, and in the long term, it would damage the marketing industry. | Dec 30 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | Those are very desirable goals. | Dec 30 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, I already see that happening. | Dec 30 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone started redeeming their coupons all at once because of the recession, and the stores responded by cutting the value of their coupons and raising prices. | Dec 30 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | Now, big companies like Kroger and Walmart are losing business. | Dec 30 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | I think Walmart's same store sales are down by like 3% this year. | Dec 30 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Investors respond negatively to that. Walmart resorts to gimmicks to keep the stock price high. | Dec 30 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | They are buying back shares. Eventually there won't be any to buy back, and they'll be left holding all of their own stock when the company tanks. | Dec 30 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | It'll be fucking beautiful. B-) | Dec 30 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | In the mean time, these gimmicks put lots of money into 401(k) and pension plans, and prop up worker retirement portfolios. | Dec 30 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | So, they're in a vicious cycle that's hurting them and benefiting nurses and teachers and factory workers. | Dec 30 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | Etc. :) | Dec 30 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | They can't stop because it would cause their stock price to collapse. | Dec 30 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | They'd love to stop, they just can't. | Dec 30 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | Share buy backs are the reason the stock market is riding high right now. | Dec 30 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | The Fed's policies have unintentionally doubled or tripled the value of retirement plans. | Dec 30 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | As long as you take your money and leave at the right time. It's hard to say what the right time is. | Dec 30 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | Take the money, pull your investment, sell your shares at the inflated price, and then invest in foreign companies where there's still the potential for growth. | Dec 30 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was having this discussion with a friend the other day when he mentioned that Social Security's "trust fund" is like a ponzi scam. | Dec 30 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | I told him that it's even worse than that. I told him that any competent private investment broker that wanted to keep his job would beat inflation. | Dec 30 23:02 |
| DaemonFC | Social Security is limited to buying T-bills. | Dec 30 23:03 |
| DaemonFC | I said that if they quit buying T-bills and started buying TIPS, then it would hold its value against inflation, and assuming the government doesn't default, the government would owe more money to Social Security, and it would be solvent for another 15-20 years. | Dec 30 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | But that's exactly why they won't. The last thing they want is to owe Social Security even more money. :) | Dec 30 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | They're still trying to figure out how to steal the money it has on the books right now. | Dec 30 23:05 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> that it would stand in the way of humanity's plan of forcing nature into regulating the human population via the most drastic methods? :> | Dec 30 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | Alex Jones claims that everyone alive today could fit into Texas. | Dec 30 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | That's kind of a disturbing thought. | Dec 30 23:14 |
| DaemonFC | The only consistent way to make people more angry and violent than they already tend to be is to cram large numbers of them into small areas. | Dec 30 23:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3465850 | Dec 30 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #NSA has nearly complete #backdoor access to Apple's iPhone http://www.dailydot.com/politics/nsa-backdoor-iphone-access-camera-mic-appelbaum/ avoid #apple http://techrights.org/2013/12/30/boycott-apple/ | Dec 30 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.dailydot.com | The Daily Dot - The NSA has nearly complete backdoor access to Apple's iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gabgu ] | Dec 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | yes, everyone alive today could die in Texas | Dec 30 23:15 |
| schestowitz | "top lel" | Dec 30 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | More Reasons to Boycott Apple, Which Abuses Courts, Engages in Competition Crime, and Aids Espionage | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gabqm ] | Dec 30 23:15 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3463732 | Dec 30 23:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We need to push for social state of affairs where people, by using Windows or Mac OSuX, basically broadcast their ineptitude | Dec 30 23:15 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the United States still has lots of big empty states where there's basically nothing there. | Dec 30 23:16 |
| schestowitz | true | Dec 30 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Well, except some tax shelters and crazy people. | Dec 30 23:16 |
| schestowitz | they could fit in Texas | Dec 30 23:16 |
| schestowitz | but you could not feed them | Dec 30 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | Like, South Dakota and Nebraska. | Dec 30 23:16 |
| schestowitz | not from within the state | Dec 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | and if you exterminate everything that's there, you'll find out that you kind of depended on it | Dec 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | like the rainforests | Dec 30 23:16 |
| MinceR | turns out humans need oxygen :> | Dec 30 23:16 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I saw something on Facebook the other day that you reminded me of. | Dec 30 23:17 |
| schestowitz | there's some nic echart which shows how small a place you could fir 7 billion people into if you extrapolate the density of some highly populated places like Singapore | Dec 30 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | If trees produced wifi signals, they'd be planting them everywhere. | Dec 30 23:17 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 30 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | But all they make is stupid old oxygen. | Dec 30 23:17 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 30 23:17 |
| schestowitz | Alex Jones ayas many stupid things, this ain't one of them | Dec 30 23:17 |
| MinceR | food also needs to be produced somewhere | Dec 30 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | Well, with efficient population distribution, we could cut resource usage. | Dec 30 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | A lot. | Dec 30 23:18 |
| MinceR | yes, and we could let more people live at the cost of reducing quality of life for everyone | Dec 30 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | My uncle, the one that lives in a rural area in Georgia... He has to drive like 30 miles each way to the grocery store. | Dec 30 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | That's not very efficient. | Dec 30 23:18 |
| MinceR | somehow i'm not convinced that i want that. | Dec 30 23:18 |
| DaemonFC | Who wants to drive 60 miles and burn three gallons of gas every time you need groceries? | Dec 30 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Or need to see a doctor. Or want to go out to eat.... Or, anything really... | Dec 30 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | So, like you'd expect, he wears out cars very quickly. | Dec 30 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | He racked up over 350,000 miles on his Honda, and it was only like 6 years old... | Dec 30 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | If you live in a city and you'er close to everything, it really helps to keep the miles off your car. | Dec 30 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | Mine's a 1996 and it only has 96,200 miles on it right now. | Dec 30 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | The former owner took fantastic care of it. The only real problem was when they went to park it and a brake line had rotted out. | Dec 30 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | They hit a parking post at like 5 miles an hour and there's a small piece missing from the grille. | Dec 30 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | Other than that, it's in excellent condition. | Dec 30 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | So, it's really not efficient to have people spread out like this. | Dec 30 23:23 |
| DaemonFC | The way that humans are behaving right now is like something from a bad game of The Sims. | Dec 30 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | Where you make all the wrong decisions, let things fall apart, allocate land and resources incorrectly... | Dec 30 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | There's parts of the Untied States where they could put enough solar panels to provide enough electricity for the entire country. | Dec 30 23:26 |
| DaemonFC | Instead, we just burn coal and poison everyone. | Dec 30 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't make any sense other than it's a really cheap thing to do. | Dec 30 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | It will have consequences shortly, but don't worry about that, that's like 20-30 years from now. :) | Dec 30 23:27 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85 | Dec 30 23:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | E85 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 30 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | "Use of gasoline in an engine with a high enough compression ratio to use E85 efficiently would likely result in catastrophic failure due to engine detonation." | Dec 30 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that's a problem. :\ | Dec 30 23:30 |
| DaemonFC | Oh well, at least people who used the wrong pump would know better next time. :D | Dec 30 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | E85 is more the result of perverse government incentives than an actual need or market demand. | Dec 30 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | At least, the way they produce it here. | Dec 30 23:33 |
| MinceR | aren't those engines new enough to adjust to the octane rating of the fuel they use? | Dec 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, but they're designed to run on gasoline or E85, so they're not as efficient at using E85 as they could be. | Dec 30 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | If you made an engine that could burn E85 with high efficiency, then putting straight gasoline into it would cause it to explode. | Dec 30 23:35 |
| MinceR | ic | Dec 30 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | That's what the Wikipedia article is saying. | Dec 30 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm still debating on whether or not to make the switch to 5w20 motor oil. | Dec 30 23:36 |
| DaemonFC | Ford Motor Company says my car can use it, but Ford Motor Company isn't on the hook to pay me for my loss if it causes premature engine failure. | Dec 30 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 30 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | And Ford Motor Company has an incentive to trash engines in cars that are already out there and paid off, so that Ford Motor Company can sell more new cars. | Dec 30 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | So, I'm not sure that Ford Motor Company's advice is good advice for me. | Dec 30 23:37 |
| DaemonFC | Ford Motor Company advises owners to do everything necessary to make it out of the warranty period, and that's about it. | Dec 30 23:38 |
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| DaemonFC | The warranty on my car expired in 1999, so they have no reason to give a shit about what happens to my car. | Dec 30 23:39 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 30 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | So, does anyone know if using 5w20 is a good idea or not? | Dec 30 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard that it can bring your gas mileage up by about 2%. | Dec 30 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | If it doesn't significantly increase engine wear, that's a good deal, because it costs the same per quart as the 5w30 that I use. | Dec 30 23:39 |
| DaemonFC | So, it would be like paying about 7-8 cents less per gallon of gas. | Dec 30 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | If their claims are true.... | Dec 30 23:40 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sort of on the fence about this one. | Dec 30 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Personal attacks, irrespective of whether it's true or not: http://sambiddle.kinja.com/paul-graham-writing-about-women-on-his-website-1491875959 | Dec 30 23:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | sambiddle.kinja.com | Paul Graham Writing About Women on His Website [ http://ur1.ca/gabu7 ] | Dec 30 23:46 |
| schestowitz | I mean, attack on PG | Dec 30 23:46 |
| schestowitz | not on women | Dec 30 23:46 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmmm. It seems that the Dollar Tree store lowered their price on my allergy pills. So, between two medications I only saved $12.95 over the next year. | Dec 31 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why Walmart hasn't reduced their price on Cetirizine. | Dec 31 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | It's still priced at what it always was. | Dec 31 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | The price really collapsed on that stuff when it went OTC, then again when the patent ran out, and then again as more suppliers started making it. | Dec 31 01:05 |
| DaemonFC | It went from $5 per pill to 5 cents per pill. | Dec 31 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | A 99% reduction. | Dec 31 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 31 01:06 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ping still about? | Dec 31 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | I was reading an article posted to Facebook that said they have no idea why the government's costs to run Medicare are rapidly declining. | Dec 31 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Hacker Public Radio New Years pocast starting 10am this morning 31st December | Dec 31 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ending mid day tommorow new years day | Dec 31 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | That just shows how ludicrous it is to trust the Congressional Budget Office. | Dec 31 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | maybe you should come on to | Dec 31 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | ,but got to do it via Mumble | Dec 31 01:07 |
| sebsebseb | and you goblin_ if you can and time and yeah :D | Dec 31 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | They projected that Medicare costs would increase over the next 10 years at the same average rate they grew over the last 10 years. Instead, what happened was that lots of drugs lost their patent protections, and the sequester lowered physician and hospital reimbursement rates by 2% from last year's levels. | Dec 31 01:08 |
| DaemonFC | So Medicare is now covering more people *and* the total cost is declining. | Dec 31 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | So, if the CBO can't even predict what will happen next year, there's no reason to think that their ten year projections are believable. | Dec 31 01:09 |
| DaemonFC | There were other cost reductions to Medicare in Obamacare. It cut the reimbursement rate for name brand-only drugs in half, punished hospitals with high re-admission rates, and then increased the budget to the Office of Inspector General to combat fraud. | Dec 31 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | They also stopped automatically paying for those $2,500 power chairs every time they got a request, and started looking into whether they're actually necessary on a case by case basis. | Dec 31 01:11 |
| DaemonFC | So, lots of good stuff. And Obama actually ended up keeping that promise that none of the cost savings would eat into beneficiary benefits. | Dec 31 01:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'd expect to see that Medicare cost increases will be in line with overall inflation rates for the next 10 years. Those charts that the Republicans were pointing at with their little pointy sticks that showed the cost of the program doubling can go away now. | Dec 31 01:13 |
| DaemonFC | They were discussing turning it into a needs-based program, but it already is one. | Dec 31 01:14 |
| DaemonFC | The very poor pay nothing in premiums, the middle class pays about $150 a month, and the rich pay nearly $800. | Dec 31 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone over 65 qualifies, but your premiums go up with your income. | Dec 31 01:15 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans passed a law in 1997 that created for-profit insurance programs that take Medicare dollars as the premium. People over 65 can enroll in those. Not surprisingly, the mortality rate of patients that chose the for-profit alternative is much higher. | Dec 31 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | You're dealing with an insurance company that makes more money if they kill you. So, why wouldn't the mortality rate be higher? | Dec 31 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | So, most people that chose those programs said that they were "very dissatisfied" and went back to Original Medicare ASAP, and at least several of those companies have been repeatedly fined for defrauding the government. | Dec 31 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | But the fines didn't exceed their profits, so they keep doing it. | Dec 31 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | Every so often, the government comes along and slaps them on the wrist and says "Now, now!". | Dec 31 01:19 |
| DaemonFC | I've studied the healthcare systems of many developed countries, out of curiosity. | Dec 31 01:20 |
| DaemonFC | The closest thing I could find to our new system is the one that they have in Switzerland. | Dec 31 01:21 |
| DaemonFC | But, the Swiss one is better. Everyone basically gets a minimum standard of care from the government, and then they can go out and buy add-on policies from private companies if they want that. | Dec 31 01:21 |
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| DaemonFC | Here, you just get some money from the government if your income is low, and then you're on your own. | Dec 31 01:22 |
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| DaemonFC | The corporate media is now trying to portray the Democratic Party as being in "shambles" because the few real progressives are becoming loud enough that it is starting to disturb some of them. | Dec 31 01:23 |
| DaemonFC | They're calling us the left-wing Tea Party. I figured they would, but I thought they'd start doing that sooner. | Dec 31 01:24 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I did complain to the people that maintain their website back in 2008 and again in 2012. | Dec 31 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | They were streaming the convention in Silverlight, and then they switched to Flash. | Dec 31 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | I had to wait several days until someone put it on Youtube. | Dec 31 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Have you written anything about that project that's started to make it possible to use Microsoft's Windows silverlight plugin in Firefox on GNU/Linux? | Dec 31 01:27 |
| DaemonFC | Is there a reason anyone would want to do that, or is it Microsoft-by-proxy trying to resurrect Silverlight? | Dec 31 01:28 |
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| MinceR | it's probably still encumbered with the same patents | Dec 31 01:29 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link via Hardball with Chris Matthews. | Dec 31 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/stockman-clean-your-gun-liberal-tears | Dec 31 01:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.msnbc.com | Steve Stockman's gun cleaning suggestion: 'Liberal tears' | MSNBC [ http://ur1.ca/gacdh ] | Dec 31 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | This Republican reminds me of that Mason Verger character on the movie Hannibal. A disgusting child molester who drank martinis with children's tears in them. | Dec 31 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | He's recommending that right-wing gun nuts clean out their assault rifles with the tears from "liberals" who are crying because of....dead children that were murdered with assault rifles that they were allowed to buy because of gun deregulation made possible by right-wing nutcases. | Dec 31 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, think about this for a moment. | Dec 31 01:32 |
| MinceR | is it a good idea to clean rifles with water? | Dec 31 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think so, but he's stupid. | Dec 31 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | Stupid, crazy, and crooked. The three requirements of being a Republican politician. Although, they sometimes bend the rules if you don't have one of those traits, but double down on one of the others. | Dec 31 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/30/1258376/-How-has-your-generation-voted?detail=facebook | Dec 31 01:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: How has your generation voted? [ http://ur1.ca/gace8 ] | Dec 31 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | I've never voted for a Republican. | Dec 31 01:37 |
| MinceR | neither have i. :> | Dec 31 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | The Republican base is literalyl dying of old age. | Dec 31 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | They'll be totally screwed pretty soon. | Dec 31 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | Their path to 270 electoral votes is becoming more difficult. | Dec 31 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | The Democratic Party has basically retaken Virginia for the first time since Reconstruction, and they're getting ready to take North Carolina as well. | Dec 31 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | After that, it will be Georgia, then eventually Texas. | Dec 31 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that the Republican candidate will win Georgia in 2016, but lose it in 2020 or 2024. | Dec 31 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | There's a growing portion of Georgia that supports the Democrats. The Republicans are still trying to quarantine it with gerrymandering. | Dec 31 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | The fundamentals of Indiana aren't projected to change too much. Obama won Indiana by a sliver in 2008 because so many people were disgusted and pissed off at Bush, but that didn't last long. | Dec 31 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | A Democrat can win a statewide election in Indiana, but they have to manage to peel off about 12-15% of the voters that identify as Republican, which explains Joe Donnelly. | Dec 31 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't really want Donnelly, but I voted for him. | Dec 31 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | The other guy was calling Social Security unconstitutional and saying that pregnancy by rape was something God intended. | Dec 31 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | That's how bad they have to get to make Indiana say "Whoa! Wait a minute!" | Dec 31 01:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 31 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | So, Donnelly might very well lose his seat in 2018 unless the Republicans can come up with another guy that says "RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE! JESUS!" for the last three months of the campaign. | Dec 31 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | He's going to have to vote against the party basically every time there's a controversial issue that comes up, where the Democrats have a few votes to spare. | Dec 31 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | shared The Other 98%'s photo. | Dec 31 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/p526x296/940810_735063269837987_186317441_n.jpg | Dec 31 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | They wouldn't lend me money for a car, and I have a FICO rating of 699. That's how hard it is to get a loan. They can make money with no risk by parking "excess reserves" at their account with the Fed, instead of lending the money and taking a risk. | Dec 31 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not a "bad risk". Statistically, only about 2-3% of people with my credit rating will default on a credit card or an auto loan. | Dec 31 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | They know that and they still won't lend me money. | Dec 31 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | My VantageScore credit rating (second most common after FICO) is B+. | Dec 31 01:50 |
| DaemonFC | I got totally wiped out in 2009 because of a hospital bill, and that sank my A+ credit rating to a D-. | Dec 31 01:51 |
| DaemonFC | That was why the bank said they denied my car loan. | Dec 31 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | Basically, your credit rating has to be very nearly spotless or no loan. | Dec 31 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | So, I'll have to wait for that item to fall off. That should happen in November of 2016. | Dec 31 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | The more it ages, the higher your FICO and Vantage Score, but as long as lenders can even see it, don't count on a loan. | Dec 31 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | And it makes no difference whether you pay it off or not. | Dec 31 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, paying on it would make things even worse. Because it would show up as a paid account, but as new activity, and then I'd have to wait until 2020 for it to fall off. | Dec 31 01:53 |
| Sosumi | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kungfury/kung-fury | Dec 31 01:54 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 31 01:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.kickstarter.com | KUNG FURY by Laser Unicorns — Kickstarter [ http://ur1.ca/gacfz ] | Dec 31 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm biding my time. I'm trying to avoid any fresh marks. When that falls off, my FICO should be close to 800. | Dec 31 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | In the mean time, I'm using my credit cards and paying them off in full each month. | Dec 31 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/08/expensive-oil-changes-are-here-to-stay.html | Dec 31 02:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.cars.com | Expensive Oil Changes Are Here to Stay - KickingTires [ http://ur1.ca/gacgt ] | Dec 31 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | Mom's friend at work bought a BMW and then found out that the oil changes are $100. | Dec 31 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 31 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | I can drive my Ford down to my favorite local garage and get my oil changed for $20. | Dec 31 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | I could change it myself but it wouldn't be any cheaper. Those shops only make a few bucks. They do them so they can give the car a once over and tell you about repairs that need to be made. | Dec 31 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | If it's something stupid, I just say no and leave with my $20 oil change. | Dec 31 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | There wouldn't be any harm in using 5w20 in those cars that demand 0w20. | Dec 31 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason you do it is if the car is under warranty and you want to prove you did everything the way they say you have to. | Dec 31 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | Once the car is out of warranty, switch to 5w20 and save yourself $80 on every change. | Dec 31 02:04 |
| DaemonFC | 0w20 is expensive because only a few companies are making it, and it's a full synthetic. | Dec 31 02:05 |
| DaemonFC | I run whatever's a good name brand and on sale. Right now I'm using Valvoline because I got a rebate offer, but I'll switch back to Quaker State next time. | Dec 31 02:07 |
| DaemonFC | The oil change was $35 (because it was good on their semi-synthetic), but the $15 rebate brought it down to $20. | Dec 31 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | I research these things because I want to know what I'm putting in my engine. B-) | Dec 31 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | The independent lab tests have shown that there's not that much difference in wear or sludge between the major brands. | Dec 31 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | They all have to meet the same standards, so it's not surprising that they're all about the same. | Dec 31 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | The price isn't. :) | Dec 31 02:09 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen Valvoline as high as $3.99 per quart and I've seen Quaker State as low as $1. | Dec 31 02:11 |
| DaemonFC | Tim told me about the awful experience he had with a Volkswagon Jetta. | Dec 31 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | He said the oil changes were $70, the windshield wiper blades were $36 each and you could only get them fro ma dealer. | Dec 31 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | It's just too damned expensive to drive one of these imports. | Dec 31 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | They're good on gas, but they nickel and dime you everywhere else. | Dec 31 02:16 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, and the heater core on my mom's friend's BMW just went out and the shop says they think they can fix it for $800. | Dec 31 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | I had the same thing go out on my Taurus and the bill at the shop was like $390 or something like that. | Dec 31 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You see BMW dealerships EVERYWHERE around here. | Dec 31 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | And Volkswagon. | Dec 31 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | They're not good cars. | Dec 31 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | If you talk to 10 people who have owned one, you'll probably have at least 8-9 of them tell you "Don't buy one.". | Dec 31 02:19 |
| MinceR | neither are fords. :> | Dec 31 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | At least the Fords are cheap to maintain or fix. | Dec 31 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | When something happens, I'd rather be handed a bill for $390 than $800. | Dec 31 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 31 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | But, you get that with "luxury cars". | Dec 31 02:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 31 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | The same parts on a Mercury Grand Marquis or a Lincoln Town Car (up level versions of my Crown Victoria) are more expensive. | Dec 31 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | Just because they call it a Mercury or a Lincoln instead of a Ford. | Dec 31 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | They make a lot of the parts just different enough that you can't use the ones for a Crown Vic. | Dec 31 02:21 |
| DaemonFC | Some are the same part, but they have two part numbers. | Dec 31 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | One is more expensive than the other, and dealers won't use the cheaper part. | Dec 31 02:22 |
| DaemonFC | I was totally intending to buy a 1999 Mercury Sable LS, but they sold it before I got there. | Dec 31 02:23 |
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| DaemonFC | They were signing the papers to someone that got to the dealer right before I did. I watched them do it. That was disappointing. | Dec 31 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | Perfect shape. Only 90,000 miles on it. | Dec 31 02:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My stepdad doesn't like Ford cars, but loves their trucks. | Dec 31 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | I keep telling him that I will only ever buy a Ford car. He says there's something wrong with me. :) | Dec 31 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | I swore I'd never own another GM vehicle after what that Chevrolet Corsica did to me. | Dec 31 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | It was always something, and then it threw a rod. | Dec 31 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | Never did a month go by without SOMETHING happening to it. | Dec 31 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | Other than the constant repair bills, it was an alright car. | Dec 31 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | Decent gas mileage, good acceleration. Surprisingly comfortable considering it had the EPA designation "Subcompact". | Dec 31 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | They stopped making them because government safety regulations changed. | Dec 31 02:27 |
| MinceR | maybe it was only comfortable in the front :> | Dec 31 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | The government declared that they were not safe enough in a side impact collision. | Dec 31 02:27 |
| DaemonFC | That never really scares me too much. If one of these SUVs or F-350s hits you one the side, it's probably game over. | Dec 31 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | *on | Dec 31 02:28 |
| MinceR | that's why you need a big, tough car, too :> | Dec 31 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the Crown Victoria is a pretty big car. | Dec 31 02:28 |
| DaemonFC | You can't get a Ford car with a V8 anymore, unless you buy a Mustang. | Dec 31 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | They used the same engine I have in my Crown Victoria in the 1996 Mustang. | Dec 31 02:29 |
| DaemonFC | They made some performance mods though. | Dec 31 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Dual exhaust and so on. | Dec 31 02:30 |
| MinceR | how does dual exhaust help performance? | Dec 31 02:30 |
| DaemonFC | Because there's a bigger air intake on the opposite end of the car as well. :) | Dec 31 02:31 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 31 02:31 |
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| DaemonFC | It doesn't make a huge difference though. | Dec 31 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | Without the dual exhaust mod, you have 210 hp and 270 foot pounds of torque | Dec 31 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | With the dual exhaust, you have 215 and 285. | Dec 31 02:32 |
| DaemonFC | The police interceptor had dual exhaust and some other mods. | Dec 31 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | Different PCM programming. | Dec 31 02:33 |
| DaemonFC | It was rated at 250 and 297. | Dec 31 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | But it got horrible gas mileage. | Dec 31 02:34 |
| MinceR | such mods also reduce life expectancy, don't they? | Dec 31 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | A friend of mine owns one. I asked him why he never drives it anywhere. He said he only gets about 10 mpg in town, and about 16 on the highway. | Dec 31 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose they could. | Dec 31 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | The police get rid of them at 100,000 miles. | Dec 31 02:34 |
| DaemonFC | But what the police do to them probably puts more wear and tear on the engine than the mods themselves. | Dec 31 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | The odometer might only read 100,000, but they've probably had the car on 24 hours a day between three shifts. | Dec 31 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | And when they were running it, it was to chase speeders and other stuff like that. | Dec 31 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | So they'd just floor it. They don't worry about fucking up the car. | Dec 31 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | They can always sell it at auction and make us buy them another one. :) | Dec 31 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They're the government! :) | Dec 31 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | The government doesn't have government money, they have your money. | Dec 31 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | And since you're paying, there's some things they'd like you to buy. :) | Dec 31 02:37 |
| MinceR | no, there's some things they _will_ buy with your money | Dec 31 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 31 02:37 |
| MinceR | and if they run out of money, they'll just squeeze you some more | Dec 31 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | Exactly! | Dec 31 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | That's why I voted against the property tax caps. | Dec 31 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone went and voted for the caps, then they're pissed off that the sales tax went up and so did all their utility bills. | Dec 31 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | Well fucking duh.... | Dec 31 02:38 |
| MinceR | it seems that governments just can't decrease their spending | Dec 31 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | It never happens. | Dec 31 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | When they do decrease spending, it's on the poor and middle class. | Dec 31 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | Then they increase their taxes. | Dec 31 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | The rich pay nothing. The corporations pay nothing. | Dec 31 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | The corporations get more subsidies than people get in welfare. | Dec 31 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | Many many many times over. | Dec 31 02:39 |
| DaemonFC | Each year, the federal government subsidizes housing for the rich at about $100 billion. | Dec 31 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | They spend about $60 billion on affordable housing for the poor. | Dec 31 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the $100 billion comes from the mortgage interest deduction. | Dec 31 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | They let you deduct however much you paid in interest on your mortgage from your federal taxable income. | Dec 31 02:40 |
| DaemonFC | But, renters get no deduction at all. | Dec 31 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | So the difference between paying $600 a month in rent and $600 a month on a mortgage is that you get to deduct a couple hundred a month from your gross taxable income if it's a mortgage. | Dec 31 02:41 |
| MinceR | is it still worth renting a home? | Dec 31 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | The government says it's to promote home ownership, but it doesn't. Not when the banks do what they do. | Dec 31 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah. If you're like me and the banks won't speak to you. | Dec 31 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | You have no other choice. | Dec 31 02:42 |
| MinceR | ic | Dec 31 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | Some landlords will agree to do rent to own. | Dec 31 02:42 |
| DaemonFC | It amounts to a VERY high interest mortgage. | Dec 31 02:43 |
| MinceR | and that's still not deductible, is it? | Dec 31 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | Nope, because it's an installment payment on your contract, not a mortgage. | Dec 31 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 31 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | So, the only way to get affordable rent is to make so little money that you qualify... | Dec 31 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | Fine, most people do, especially the ones that find jobs nowadays. | Dec 31 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | But, since the government devotes so little to rent subsidies, the waiting lists are often 5-6 years long. | Dec 31 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | Or closed entirely. | Dec 31 02:44 |
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| DaemonFC | So the program is there, but it only is funded enough to help less than half the people who qualify. | Dec 31 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | In the mean time, these rich people are getting to deduct their mortgage interest. | Dec 31 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | all of them | Dec 31 02:45 |
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| DaemonFC | And the subsidies for the rich homeowners is not an expense that the government can budget. | Dec 31 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | As long as there are no limits on the price of a home, there's no limits on the deduction. | Dec 31 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | So the government can't cap their loss at $100 billion. If home prices go up 50%, then so does the amount of money they lose on the deduction. | Dec 31 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | So they're writing out a blank check for lost income, to people that can afford that house fine without the deduction. | Dec 31 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | Then they tell the people on Section 8 Housing to brace themselves for another round of cuts. | Dec 31 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | The tax laws are so awful that if you do your own taxes, you're probably not getting all of your deductions, but most people on the lower end of the income scale will pay more to have them professionally prepared than they'll lose by not itemizing and taking the standard deduction. | Dec 31 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | Tax preparation services are like $80-100. You can do them yourself for free. | Dec 31 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | If you pay $100 and get another $50 on your refund, you're still out $50. :) | Dec 31 02:51 |
| DaemonFC | So, the people that miss out on the most money they're owed are the poor. | Dec 31 02:51 |
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| DaemonFC | So if you have 50 million people that each lose $50, the government takes in another $2.5 billion every year that they get to keep. | Dec 31 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | And that's just the federal government. | Dec 31 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | They audit returns at random, but they only notify you if you owe them money. | Dec 31 02:57 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 31 03:19 |
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| DaemonFC | Tim texted me. Said he wants to grab something to eat when he gets here. | Dec 31 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | I told him the choices are down to Taco Bell or going to the gas station to get some junk food. :P | Dec 31 03:55 |
| DaemonFC | Taco Bell probably gets a lot of business after 11 PM. They're the only restaurant in the entire town that's open. | Dec 31 03:56 |
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| Sosumi | since I mentioned darwin's origin of the species by means of natural selection | Dec 31 08:07 |
| Sosumi | and that evolution theory came later | Dec 31 08:07 |
| Sosumi | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531397/Shocking-study-reveals-A-THIRD-Americans-dont-believe-Evolution.html | Dec 31 08:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailymail.co.uk | ONE THIRD of Americans don't believe in evolution | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gadp6 ] | Dec 31 08:07 |
| Sosumi | by being the dailymail, it's already subject of laugher | Dec 31 08:08 |
| Sosumi | but lol | Dec 31 08:08 |
| Sosumi | schestowitz: quoting from twitter "Once upon a time #Arstechnica did not have moles and did have journalism." | Dec 31 08:15 |
| Sosumi | once upon a time, arstechnica had a dedicated page for everything "open source" | Dec 31 08:15 |
| Sosumi | ans also had a dedicated page which covered legal aspects in the tech business, etc | Dec 31 08:16 |
| Sosumi | but they sadly did with that away when they redesigned their website to the current format | Dec 31 08:17 |
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| smartass | good morning | Dec 31 10:58 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Dec 31 14:23 |
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| Sosumi | smartass, good morning VIETNAM!!! | Dec 31 14:43 |
| Sosumi | now the weather for today | Dec 31 14:43 |
| Sosumi | extra crispy with a slight chance for carpet bombing | Dec 31 14:44 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile, today is going to be a slow day | Dec 31 14:45 |
| Sosumi | everything is closing up around here at 15 | Dec 31 14:45 |
| Sosumi | for new year commemorations | Dec 31 14:46 |
| Sosumi | if they actually had some sense, they'd with to have 2004 played on a loop | Dec 31 14:46 |
| Sosumi | *wish | Dec 31 14:46 |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/418046079465447424 | Dec 31 15:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Internet #Censorship is Expanding Worldwide and We Need Free Software to Fight Back http://t.co/9wDkT5rIGr #www #freespeech #uk | Dec 31 15:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Internet Censorship is Expanding Worldwide and We Need Free Software to Fight Back | Techrights | Dec 31 15:53 |
| roy_ | MinceR: we become luike Hungary now | Dec 31 15:53 |
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| DaemonFC | Sosumi, If you want to get technical, the extinctions that humans are causing is natural. | Dec 31 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | Humans came from nature. | Dec 31 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uah0SPt3Zwc | Dec 31 21:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Comix Zone Music Night of Mutants - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gagyi ] | Dec 31 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | good cover | Dec 31 21:04 |
| Sosumi | but humans are the only animal with the capacity to change/modify/adapt nature to his needs | Dec 31 21:36 |
| Sosumi | so in a sense human activity is the main adaptive force around | Dec 31 21:37 |
| Sosumi | causing species who can't adapt to the new paradigm | Dec 31 21:37 |
| Sosumi | to go extinct | Dec 31 21:37 |
| Sosumi | simple as that | Dec 31 21:37 |
| Sosumi | but even then | Dec 31 21:37 |
| Sosumi | this planet wont last forever | Dec 31 21:37 |
| Sosumi | and the humans, as superior being on this planet must make everything to make sure he survives | Dec 31 21:38 |
| Sosumi | and doesn't go down when the main suporter of life, disappears | Dec 31 21:38 |
| Sosumi | aka sun turns hostile, asteroid impact, pandemic, depleted resources | Dec 31 21:39 |
| Sosumi | that is why I advocate spreading through to multiple planets, well at least for now colonize the solar system | Dec 31 21:39 |
| Sosumi | and then spread | Dec 31 21:40 |
| Sosumi | which would create redundancy in the livestock | Dec 31 21:40 |
| Sosumi | spreading risk around, instead of concentrating it into a single point | Dec 31 21:42 |
| Sosumi | also anandtech reviewed the sodacan pro | Dec 31 21:43 |
| Sosumi | the top card is just a heavily underclocked r800 | Dec 31 21:43 |
| Sosumi | http://www.anandtech.com/show/7603/mac-pro-review-late-2013/10 | Dec 31 21:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | The Mac Pro Review (Late 2013) [ http://ur1.ca/gah2d ] | Dec 31 21:44 |
| Sosumi | so in the end you're paying for an underclocked r800 (650MHz vs 850MHz core clocks, everything else is also down) | Dec 31 21:46 |
| Sosumi | with 6GB vram instead of the reference 3GB, rebranded as FirePro (remember there is no distinction between workstation cards and gaming cards on OSX) | Dec 31 21:47 |
| Sosumi | and no ECC support | Dec 31 21:47 |
| Sosumi | big joke and sad Anand goes on congratulating the thing, plain sad | Dec 31 21:48 |
| Sosumi | so is it a workstation or just a small desktop that is half portable and with some "kewl" design | Dec 31 21:49 |
| Sosumi | maybe IF I carried it in a backpack in backpack with an UPS with and connected some steroscopic 3d glasses to it and a brain sensor | Dec 31 21:51 |
| Sosumi | that wouldn't be bad to make what google glass should have been | Dec 31 21:51 |
| Sosumi | or at least to serve as test bed for the concept software | Dec 31 21:52 |
| Sosumi | to the present and ask for zee monies | Dec 31 21:52 |
| Sosumi | ofc all I just said reeks of ghost in the shell | Dec 31 21:54 |
| Sosumi | :) | Dec 31 21:54 |
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| Sosumi | http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/mac/MacPro2013/CPUGPU7zip.png | Dec 31 23:11 |
| Sosumi | the trashcan isn't able to deal with heat | Dec 31 23:11 |
| Sosumi | for prolonged time | Dec 31 23:11 |
| Sosumi | reaching 88 ºC on the GPU side and 99ºC on the cpu side | Dec 31 23:12 |
| MinceR | crApple could never get cooling right | Dec 31 23:13 |
| Sosumi | they had it right on the old tower | Dec 31 23:13 |
| MinceR | the crApple III melted itself, though | Dec 31 23:13 |
| Sosumi | maxed for prolonged times, my system never went past 40 ºc | Dec 31 23:13 |
| Sosumi | and that was with the quad core 2.93GHz nehalem xeon | Dec 31 23:14 |
| Sosumi | but even now with 3970x and a noctua nhd14 | Dec 31 23:15 |
| Sosumi | my cpu never goes past 45ºc | Dec 31 23:16 |
| Sosumi | under prolonged max use | Dec 31 23:16 |
| Sosumi | the gpus are kind of another story, | Dec 31 23:16 |
| Sosumi | but they tend to stay at 77ºc | Dec 31 23:16 |
| Sosumi | and the machine isn't loud at all | Dec 31 23:17 |
| Sosumi | my ups is louder | Dec 31 23:17 |
| Sosumi | my quad g5 was much louder | Dec 31 23:17 |
| Sosumi | if it wasn't for the 4 gpus, I'd say that it is more silent than my 2009 mac pro | Dec 31 23:18 |
| Sosumi | which was already silent | Dec 31 23:18 |
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| Sosumi | probably folks who'll buy the thing | Dec 31 23:19 |
| Sosumi | will be able to make some coffee | Dec 31 23:19 |
| Sosumi | while they're posting on facebook | Dec 31 23:20 |
| Sosumi | and a bigger joke | Dec 31 23:21 |
| Sosumi | cards are identified as hd7900 series on winblows | Dec 31 23:21 |
| Sosumi | just like I've been saying all around | Dec 31 23:21 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 31 23:21 |
| Sosumi | fail | Dec 31 23:21 |
| Sosumi | zee snake oil is too big with coffee heater pro | Dec 31 23:22 |
| Sosumi | there's plenty of bashing material in that review | Dec 31 23:28 |
| Sosumi | I hope it gets put to good use | Dec 31 23:28 |
| Sosumi | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1NzA | Dec 31 23:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] X Server Security Disaster: "It's Worse Than It Looks" [ http://ur1.ca/gahbj ] | Dec 31 23:32 |
| Sosumi | http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/12/30/steam-removes-game-order-of-war-challenge-from-user-libraries/ | Dec 31 23:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gahcu ] | Dec 31 23:50 |
| MinceR | another typical day for DRM | Dec 31 23:51 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 31 23:59 |
| Sosumi | wellcome to the you no longer own stuff but licence it for X time under X conditions | Jan 01 00:00 |
| Sosumi | and yes, it's 2014 | Jan 01 00:24 |
| Sosumi | no y2k yet | Jan 01 00:25 |
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| iophk | http://www.ixsystems.com/whats-new/megacore-freebsd-foundation-and-ixsystems-collaborate-to-further-the-cause-of-freebsd-development/ | Jan 01 18:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.ixsystems.com | MEGACORE: FreeBSD Foundation and iXsystems collaborate to further the cause of FreeBSD Development | iXsystems, Inc. [ http://ur1.ca/gaqdt ] | Jan 01 18:20 |
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| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jan/01/julian-assange-guest-on-radio-4 | Jan 01 18:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Julian Assange to be guest on Radio 4's Today programme | Media | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gaqfk ] | Jan 01 18:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gigaom.com | Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA backdoor claims — Tech News and Analysis | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <s-157> @matthew_d_green So NSA is capturing unencrypted crash reports | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <s-157> retweeted by from Windows computers? http://t.co/DA618sG8I4 | Jan 01 19:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.spiegel.de | Inside TAO: Targeting Mexico - SPIEGEL ONLINE | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <s-157> @ioerror | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 19:31 |
| schestowitz | GRRR... | Jan 01 19:32 |
| schestowitz | oops | Jan 01 19:32 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 19:32 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 19:32 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 19:32 |
| schestowitz | dman it.. something is broken | Jan 01 19:32 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3456539 | Jan 01 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu Is Storing Wi-Fi Passwords in Clear Text by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Is-Storing-Wi-Fi-Passwords-in-Clear-Text-By-Default-412056.shtml too bad they can't hey basics right. #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jan 01 19:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Is Storing Wi-Fi Passwords in Clear Text by Default [ http://ur1.ca/g9uwa ] | Jan 01 19:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 19:34 |
| schestowitz | I have to use Microsoft at work (by the way, the IT guys never approved Win8), and every time one of those little 'choice' boxes pops up "would you like to send a report to Microsoft?", I have always clicked 'no' for two reasons: 1) sending the report uses bandwidth and delays my getting back to what I was doing; 2) I didn't figure Microsoft was actually going to fix anything anyway. | Jan 01 19:34 |
| schestowitz | I have no idea whether it makes a difference or not. | Jan 01 19:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Several years ago I read that they only use these for stats. IOW, they would wait until 1.5 million people send some similar report and then "look into it". other than that, it's a customer support PR stunt. Mozilla might be better and more worth supporting. | Jan 01 19:35 |
| schestowitz | "Over a rather short time. I seem to recall the punditocracy publishing op-eds and making appearances to vilify #OWS within a day or two of its start.' | Jan 01 19:35 |
| schestowitz | OWS threatened Wall Street, i.e. the wealthy; if plutocrats hate it, then it means it's very effective and we need more of the same. | Jan 01 19:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 19:36 |
| schestowitz | "Over time" sounds like it's a thing of the future. | Jan 01 19:36 |
| schestowitz | But it already happens. | Jan 01 19:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3467324 | Jan 01 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When was the last time a "terrorist" got caught at an airport? | Jan 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz | "That "terrorist": http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/18/glenn-greenwald-guardian-partner-detained-heathrow " | Jan 01 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Glenn Greenwald's partner detained at Heathrow airport for nine hours | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/f3oju ] | Jan 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3466104 | Jan 01 19:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: ### Remember Google StreetView? | Jan 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz | It's not only Google. In the consequence you need to avoid any big commercial provider and even then you can't be 'save'. Personally I agree with the opinion that there is no (more) a technical solution for a society problem..."" | Jan 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3466200 | Jan 01 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #cisco are filthy liars. In their public Web site they advertise back doors for authorities, now pretend, surprise! http://www.businessinsider.com/cisco-is-investigating-nsa-spying-claims-2013-12 | Jan 01 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.businessinsider.com | Cisco Is Investigating NSA Spying Claims - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gac2v ] | Jan 01 19:40 |
| schestowitz | ""Gawrsh, we had no idea they were going to use that back door we wrote for them."" | Jan 01 19:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3466145 | Jan 01 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now it's clearer why #appelbaum harassed, raided, under surveillance by the spooks http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/nsa-interception-pc-malware-134744 http://www.extremetech.com/computing/173721-the-nsa-regularly-intercepts-laptop-shipments-to-implant-malware-report-says | Jan 01 19:40 |
| schestowitz | "has been * &" | Jan 01 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techweekeurope.co.uk | NSA 'Intercepted PC Shipments To Install Malware' [ http://ur1.ca/gas2y ] | Jan 01 19:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.extremetech.com | The NSA regularly intercepts laptop shipments to implant malware, report says | ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/gas2z ] | Jan 01 19:40 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/418444985688543232/photo/1 | Jan 01 19:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @MatthewKeysLive: Just in: HP says it was unaware of information published in Der Spiegel article on NSA exploits - http://t.co/z1WeAzzhTB | Jan 01 19:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @MatthewKeysLive: Just in: HP says it was unaware of information published in Der Spiegel article on NSA exploits - http://t.co/z1WeAzzhTB | Jan 01 19:46 |
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| schestowitz__ | This is why BSD refuses to use Intel and VIA for random number generation. Some backdoors in hardware can be bypassed, esp. when you don't have specs for the hardware (it is proprietary) | Jan 01 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "Let raise a question, the local gov's are taking care of dayly public security,like homicides in all cities zones ??? and about drug traffic and so on.... the public security on dayly basis is being taking care or not.... ;)" | Jan 01 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3472271 | Jan 01 20:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Journalists have just been warned. Don't travel to the US (e.g. to do some journalism), especially if you challenge those in Power. | Jan 01 20:43 |
| MinceR | do they use AMD or some other manufacturer, then? :> | Jan 01 20:46 |
| Sosumi | wasn't it in 2003 or so | Jan 01 20:51 |
| Sosumi | when some compaq/hp laptops had their HDDs flashed with a malware infected image | Jan 01 20:52 |
| Sosumi | but you should never use the default factory image and always reset a new phone when actually go to install your stuff | Jan 01 20:53 |
| Sosumi | default image should only be used for testing purposes and never trusted | Jan 01 20:54 |
| Sosumi | who can say that some undercover worker at a manufactoring or assembling plant didn't bug the default software image that gets cloned into those devices | Jan 01 20:55 |
| Sosumi | I think that is all common sense | Jan 01 20:56 |
| Sosumi | and I've doing that since forever | Jan 01 20:56 |
| Sosumi | cisco backdoors have been known since forever | Jan 01 20:58 |
| Sosumi | but there aren't that many other choices around either | Jan 01 20:58 |
| Sosumi | at least here | Jan 01 20:58 |
| Sosumi | it's either cisco, huwei or some other chinese company | Jan 01 20:59 |
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| Sosumi | or TP-Link | Jan 01 21:00 |
| Sosumi | so in between the two, pick the one that smells less bad | Jan 01 21:00 |
| Sosumi | *in between the three | Jan 01 21:00 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131231/08562425723/this-clip-former-nsa-boss-michael-hayden-calling-snowden-traitor-is-brought-to-you-microsoft.shtml | Jan 02 04:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techdirt.com | This Clip Of Former NSA Boss Michael Hayden Calling Snowden A Traitor Is Brought To You By Microsoft | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/gayqa ] | Jan 02 04:42 |
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| iophk | http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/names/2014/01/01/customs-officials-destroys-flute-virtuoso-instruments/HRnFgh1FwIqY5n2FdoKlMN/story.html | Jan 02 08:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bostonglobe.com | Customs officials destroy flute virtuoso’s instruments - Names - The Boston Globe [ http://ur1.ca/gazer ] | Jan 02 08:08 |
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| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/not-so-anonymous-vpn-uses-edward-snowden-for-pr-140101/ | Jan 02 09:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Not So Anonymous VPN Uses Edward Snowden For PR | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gazn1 ] | Jan 02 09:03 |
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| iophk | http://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomainday/2014/pre-1976 | Jan 02 09:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | web.law.duke.edu | What Could Have Entered the Public Domain on January 1, 2014? [ http://ur1.ca/gagac ] | Jan 02 09:17 |
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| msb__ | schestowitz: "Journalists have just been warned. Don't travel to the US (e.g. to do some journalism), especially if you challenge those in Power." | Jan 02 09:49 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: Warned by whom? | Jan 02 09:50 |
| Sosumi | pffff, you don't travel to the US if your're a legit journalist | Jan 02 10:01 |
| Sosumi | or a computer cracker | Jan 02 10:01 |
| Sosumi | common sense says so | Jan 02 10:01 |
| Sosumi | and actually, if you're a computer cracker you also don't travel to countries that extradite to the US | Jan 02 10:01 |
| Sosumi | good thing portugal isn't one of those | Jan 02 10:02 |
| Sosumi | :) | Jan 02 10:02 |
| Sosumi | but that doesn't prevent some intelligence cell operating in your country to harass you | Jan 02 10:03 |
| Sosumi | *from harassing you | Jan 02 10:03 |
| *Sosumi slaps herself on the face in order to wake up | Jan 02 10:04 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 02 15:31 |
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| roy_ | This related to the latest news | Jan 02 15:55 |
| roy_ | court rules in favour of allowing border contorl/TSA to go through/copy contents of your phone/tablet/laptop, even without suspicoion | Jan 02 15:56 |
| roy_ | MinceR: ^^ | Jan 02 15:56 |
| roy_ | oops | Jan 02 15:56 |
| roy_ | msb__ I meant | Jan 02 15:56 |
| roy_ | [09:47] <msb__> schestowitz: "Journalists have just been warned. Don't travel to the US (e.g. to do some journalism), especially if you challenge those in Power." | Jan 02 15:56 |
| roy_ | [09:47] <msb__> schestowitz: Warned by whom? | Jan 02 15:56 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.anandtech.com/show/7604/asrock-m8/2 | Jan 02 16:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | ASRock M8 Barebones Review: My Steam Box [ http://ur1.ca/gb4es ] | Jan 02 16:18 |
| Sosumi | a nice looking steambox | Jan 02 16:18 |
| Sosumi | or whatever you want to make out of it | Jan 02 16:18 |
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| Sosumi | kind of confirmed | Jan 02 17:05 |
| Sosumi | some mods at macrumors are on apple's payroll | Jan 02 17:05 |
| Sosumi | as well some poster accounts | Jan 02 17:07 |
| Sosumi | judging the amount of damage control around anandtech's review around the thing failing on the stress tests | Jan 02 17:08 |
| Sosumi | and judging why the user Rominator which had already been banned once and then bandodged and created an account under the name of macvidcards | Jan 02 17:09 |
| Sosumi | has been banned again for telling the things how they are | Jan 02 17:09 |
| Sosumi | including workarounds, custom kexts, etc | Jan 02 17:10 |
| Sosumi | some other users posters are already missing or deleted | Jan 02 17:10 |
| Sosumi | and apparently from what I could guess from checking the forums now | Jan 02 17:10 |
| Sosumi | the lvl of IQ kind of lowered to retarded level | Jan 02 17:11 |
| Sosumi | and yes I'm still indefinitely banned | Jan 02 17:11 |
| Sosumi | whatever that means | Jan 02 17:11 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound like that site's worth wasting resources on | Jan 02 17:12 |
| Sosumi | not anymore | Jan 02 17:12 |
| Sosumi | it wasn't like that before too | Jan 02 17:12 |
| Sosumi | the actually good site for theorycraft | Jan 02 17:12 |
| Sosumi | was macresearch | Jan 02 17:13 |
| Sosumi | but that site died when crapple killed the xserve and the clustering tools | Jan 02 17:13 |
| Sosumi | but it shows how far they can go | Jan 02 17:18 |
| Sosumi | forum trolls, strict review guidelines | Jan 02 17:19 |
| Sosumi | even anand had to put a bit of lipstick on the pig | Jan 02 17:19 |
| Sosumi | so that the next time crapple doesn't forget about him | Jan 02 17:19 |
| Sosumi | just like they did to arstechnica, probably because of the rave of bad propaganda that comes out of there when it comes to the real pro reviews | Jan 02 17:21 |
| Sosumi | and how osx performs on programs like maya, cinema 4d, etc | Jan 02 17:21 |
| Sosumi | and benchmarks on the quadro cards behave on osx, linux and windows | Jan 02 17:21 |
| Sosumi | obvious-ly that osx always loses | Jan 02 17:22 |
| Sosumi | in another not an andrew cunnigham, John siracosa thing | Jan 02 17:22 |
| iophk | old - http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2009/11/04/One-third-of-US-youth-unfit-for-military/UPI-98691257317594/ | Jan 02 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.upi.com | One-third of U.S. youth unfit for military - UPI.com [ http://ur1.ca/gb4px ] | Jan 02 17:24 |
| MinceR | that's ok, they already have more military than they need | Jan 02 17:24 |
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| Sosumi | do you know what is the top paid app on the osx store? | Jan 02 18:34 |
| Sosumi | kasperski virus scan | Jan 02 18:34 |
| Sosumi | lol | Jan 02 18:34 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phonearena.com/news/Report-Only-5-of-Korean-LG-G2-owners-received-KitKat-update_id50828 | Jan 02 19:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phonearena.com | Report: Only 5% of Korean LG G2 owners received KitKat update [ http://ur1.ca/gb5a5 ] | Jan 02 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, LG only rolled out the Android 4.4 update to 5% of LG G2 owners in South Korea. | Jan 02 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | It disguised it as a normal update, even though it was really a beta test program. | Jan 02 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | They forced the update on those phones to see if they broke phones that customers who did not agree to participate in a beta testing program were using. | Jan 02 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 02 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | That's not cool. | Jan 02 19:27 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 02 19:27 |
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| DaemonFC | The Android 4.4 update is apparently causing increased battery drain, and bugs with the built-in Android web browser. | Jan 02 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | But LG has declared it "good" anyway, and plans to roll it out to everyone. | Jan 02 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | Are they nuts? | Jan 02 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | They have a phone that everyone loves. They're really going to ship broken firmware? | Jan 02 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | I do want 4.4, but they should delay it by a couple of weeks and fix those problems. | Jan 02 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | Android 4.4 seems to bring along a major performance boost for the system and applications over 4.2.2, but 4.2.2 is very stable. | Jan 02 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather have a phone that was 5-10% slower but didn't crash and guzzle the battery. | Jan 02 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | I decided to leave my tablet on Android 4.0.4, for the same reason. | Jan 02 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | Archos abandoned the G9 tablets there, and the unofficial firmware updates like Cyanogenmod will work, but they're known to break things. | Jan 02 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | The latest one even managed to break the camera *and* GPS. | Jan 02 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | I think what happened with LG is that they did a lot of work to make sure everything worked right with the original firmware, because that's the firmware that all the product review websites will be reviewing. | Jan 02 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then the quality control standards plummet when it comes time to push upgrades. | Jan 02 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | Of course it would be nicer if there was only one Android image for every device, that users could install themselves. | Jan 02 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | That manages to happen with PC operating systems. | Jan 02 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | There's too many device configurations out there with phones. Almost every major manufacturer even makes their own CPUs. | Jan 02 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | LG is going to start doing this with the LG G3. They're developing a CPU called ODIN. | Jan 02 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | "The Huntington County Sheriff's Department has been chosen as the Business of the Month by the Huntington County Chamber of Commerce." | Jan 02 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I suppose that sticking people with frivolous criminal charges and then letting them go if they can cough up thousands of dollars is a business of sorts. | Jan 02 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | It's called extortion. | Jan 02 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 02 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | Besides, the Huntington Country Sheriff's Department has been so good about picking up people who owe for-profit businesses money and sticking them in the Huntington County Jail, with criminals, over the weekend, with no notice that they have been sued, just to rattle them and make them too afraid to reject any repayment deal that the company (Usually Parkview Hospital) offers them. | Jan 02 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | Gary Snyder found that out. He paid his mortgage late, but the company already asked the judge (Heffelfinger) for a body attachment warrant, so he spent a Friday-Monday in jail a couple of years ago, over a mortgage payment that he had already paid. | Jan 02 19:47 |
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| _Goblin | Look on the bright side though DaemonFC he had free board and lodgings in a guest house for the weekend...that probably saved a few $ on his bills. | Jan 02 20:59 |
| Sosumi | been reading about gallium compute | Jan 02 21:00 |
| Sosumi | and it is still a no go | Jan 02 21:00 |
| _Goblin | I've been writing about francium. | Jan 02 21:00 |
| _Goblin | Unstable element you know... | Jan 02 21:00 |
| Sosumi | apparently amd has been doing good work implementing their opencl stuff | Jan 02 21:00 |
| Sosumi | but nvidia | Jan 02 21:00 |
| Sosumi | forget it | Jan 02 21:00 |
| _Goblin | I get FOSS being ideal for desktop computing or whatever.... What I don't get is the insistence that FOSS can compete with the commercial closed gaming industry.....it can't....sadly. | Jan 02 21:01 |
| Sosumi | it's nvidia not caring, as usual | Jan 02 21:02 |
| Sosumi | foss is great | Jan 02 21:02 |
| Sosumi | no need to suck up to anyone in order to get things fixed | Jan 02 21:02 |
| iophk | http://techland.time.com/2014/01/02/winamp-supposedly-saved-by-radionomy/ | Jan 02 21:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techland.time.com | Winamp Supposedly Saved by Radionomy | TIME.com [ http://ur1.ca/gb5qk ] | Jan 02 21:09 |
| Sosumi | I still have nightmares of submitting bug reports to apple and not getting anything fixed | Jan 02 21:10 |
| Sosumi | one of those bugs, which was the windowserver failing to load after a restart/cold-boot | Jan 02 21:10 |
| Sosumi | only got fixed 3 years later | Jan 02 21:10 |
| Sosumi | but don't worry, there are new ones | Jan 02 21:13 |
| Sosumi | like the creation and defaulting to a totally "derped" colorsync profile after you wake up the displays | Jan 02 21:14 |
| Sosumi | of which you need to go and manually delete | Jan 02 21:15 |
| Sosumi | and if you don't delete them, well, chances are that you're going to have a ton of random colorsync profiles for your displays | Jan 02 21:16 |
| Sosumi | if it also messes with your colorsync printer preferences I don't know | Jan 02 21:17 |
| Sosumi | since I have no printers configured into that machine | Jan 02 21:18 |
| Sosumi | but hey, that I know, no other OS does that | Jan 02 21:18 |
| Sosumi | and that again justifies the *cough* superiority of the *cough* macintosh | Jan 02 21:18 |
| Sosumi | but you don't see any of this on macrumors or appleinsider | Jan 02 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin, : No. They send you a bill for every day you're in jail now. | Jan 02 21:19 |
| Sosumi | users who post this kind of stuff are promptly shown the banhammer | Jan 02 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | And if they don't, they attach a fine to whatever you were charged with. It's in the plea agreement. | Jan 02 21:20 |
| Sosumi | also, fiat just bought chrysler | Jan 02 21:26 |
| Sosumi | wasn't chrysler owned by GM? | Jan 02 21:27 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/windows-8-x-breaks-10-percent-internet-explorer-11-makes-a-splash/ | Jan 03 01:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Windows 8.x breaks 10 percent, Internet Explorer 11 makes a splash | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gb6rr ] | Jan 03 01:50 |
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| Sosumi | IE still wins (lol) | Jan 03 01:50 |
| Sosumi | very small decrease in mobile safari usage with a very small increase in android browser | Jan 03 01:51 |
| Sosumi | hope that trend continues | Jan 03 01:52 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 03 02:47 |
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| schestowitz | Sosumi: lies | Jan 03 08:45 |
| schestowitz | they omit non-desktop | Jan 03 08:45 |
| schestowitz | typica | Jan 03 08:45 |
| schestowitz | typica L MS spin from Peter Microsoft Bright | Jan 03 08:45 |
| schestowitz | and CBS (MS -funded) | Jan 03 08:45 |
| schestowitz | [21:01] <_Goblin> I get FOSS being ideal for desktop computing or whatever.... What I don't get is the insistence that FOSS can compete with the commercial closed gaming industry.....it can't....sadly. | Jan 03 08:46 |
| schestowitz | FOSS in games is still a weak point | Jan 03 08:47 |
| schestowitz | not many people will have companies fund modificatrion to games like they would for apache | Jan 03 08:47 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: and I think as I've always said, FOSS gaming whilst it will exist, will not capture the imagination of the mainstream public like commercial offerings.... Funny that certain FOSS advocates away from here reviled me for those remarks.....seems I was right. What I would say though, for anyone with half a brain, it was obvious. | Jan 03 11:23 |
| _Goblin | I'd add by saying a commercial hold over gaming is not a good thing, but unless RMS can approve a FOSS version of something that approaches the appeal of say FIFA...I struggle to see the FOSS ethos being sold on any gamer. | Jan 03 11:24 |
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| MinceR | my favorite game is free software | Jan 03 12:44 |
| MinceR | then again, it's a genre that thrives on mods :> | Jan 03 12:45 |
| roy_ | LOL | Jan 03 13:41 |
| _Goblin | MinceR, whats the game? | Jan 03 13:42 |
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| iophk | http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/01/02/bob-swartz-losing-aaron/print/ | Jan 03 14:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bostonmagazine.com | Losing Aaron: Bob Swartz on MIT's Role in His Son's Death | Boston Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/gbfay ] | Jan 03 14:17 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3477901 | Jan 03 19:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1ODc #linux #bluray - for those who need to use physical storage not as 'consumers' | Jan 03 19:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Open-Source Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux [ http://ur1.ca/gbgoi ] | Jan 03 19:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Well, now you can." | Jan 03 19:58 |
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| Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkpHIB9VEuc | Jan 03 22:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Black Hat USA 2012 - Errata Hits Puberty: 13 Years of Chagrin - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gbhb4 ] | Jan 03 22:07 |
| Sosumi | worth watching | Jan 03 22:07 |
| Sosumi | about charlatans in the industry | Jan 03 22:07 |
| Sosumi | ofc M$, macafee and symantec top the ranks | Jan 03 22:11 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/1/4791354/samsung-rigging-benchmark-scores-galaxy-note-3 | Jan 03 22:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theverge.com | Samsung again caught rigging benchmark scores on Galaxy Note 3 | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/gbhcg ] | Jan 03 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung's devices overclock themselves long enough to run the benchmark, and then return the CPU to its normal operating speeds. | Jan 03 22:18 |
| Sosumi | lol samsung at it again | Jan 03 22:36 |
| Sosumi | I thought they had given up on that on the note | Jan 03 22:36 |
| MinceR | i think this is the same old news, isn't it? | Jan 03 22:41 |
| MinceR | apparently not | Jan 03 22:41 |
| DaemonFC | Wouldn't it be less embarrassing to just admit your phone sucks and then design a better one next time? | Jan 03 22:47 |
| MinceR | afaict it's on par with its rivals without the cheating | Jan 03 22:51 |
| MinceR | making it an even stupider move, of course | Jan 03 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | The S4 is not on par with the Nexus 5 or LG G2 | Jan 03 22:52 |
| DaemonFC | They're newer and have newer processors, but the S4 is still on the market and is about the same price. | Jan 03 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why people would buy the slower phone at the same price. | Jan 03 22:53 |
| MinceR | i was referring to the note3 | Jan 03 22:53 |
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| MinceR | and newer phones being faster shouldn't be a surprise :> | Jan 03 22:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3479508 | Jan 03 22:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Hayden (CIA) thinks reporting crimes is "outrageous" http://t.co/648KosPopq probably just afraid people will blow whistle on him | Jan 03 22:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | Michael Hayden Calls Clemency For Snowden 'Outrageous,' Says It Sends 'Wrong Message' To Potential Whistleblowers | Techdirt | Jan 03 22:54 |
| schestowitz | "Why isn't Hayden up on treason charges for lying to Congress?" | Jan 03 22:54 |
| schestowitz | He would probably use the CIA to assassinate whoever tries to hold him accountable | Jan 03 22:55 |
| MinceR | (who would have thought that 4 arm cores at 2.26 GHz would be faster than 4 arm cores at 1.6 GHz?) | Jan 03 22:56 |
| MinceR | (if i'm not mistaken, this is the octa-core thing that wouldn't use more than 4 cores at the same time, perhaps because they couldn't dissipate that much heat) | Jan 03 22:57 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3476124 | Jan 03 22:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: | Jan 03 22:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by bratze@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_df0ec1483bde1ac870c1.gif | Jan 03 22:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by bratze@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_df0ec1483bde1ac870c1.gif | Jan 03 22:58 |
| schestowitz | "What's that dude in the background doing to that other dude...?" | Jan 03 22:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's not cool! | Jan 03 22:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 03 22:59 |
| schestowitz | http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/71751684734/serious-question-seriously-was-george-carlin-ever | Jan 03 23:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | lessig.tumblr.com | Lessig Blog, v2 [ http://ur1.ca/gbhky ] | Jan 03 23:01 |
| Sosumi | wait | Jan 03 23:20 |
| Sosumi | the note 3 uses the same snapdragon 800 as the G3 and nexus 5 | Jan 03 23:20 |
| Sosumi | in a 3GB ram package | Jan 03 23:20 |
| Sosumi | the s4 is the old device | Jan 03 23:21 |
| Sosumi | and they were caught cheating on that one first | Jan 03 23:21 |
| Sosumi | that was why I mentioned "that they were still cheating" | Jan 03 23:21 |
| Sosumi | *G2 | Jan 03 23:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, i eventually realized | Jan 03 23:23 |
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| Sosumi | schestowitz, what does BT stand for? | Jan 04 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link. | Jan 04 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Jan 04 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, LG doesn't have a voluntary beta testing program. If they want you to be a beta tester, they will forcibly update your working phone with unproven software. Boo! | Jan 04 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | While I'd like to see Android 4.4 for my G2 ASAP, it's improper to use paying customers that did not sign up for a beta testing program as unwilling participants in a beta testing program. | Jan 04 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that LG is ignoring their complaints of problems with the built-in web browser and increased battery usage, and plans to release this build to all LG G2 users anyway. It would be better if they nailed down the problems before sending the software out, even if it took an additional 2-3 weeks. Rushing out broken firmware to a phone that got five star reviews and costs over $600 is not going to make people want to return and buy the LG | Jan 04 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | G3 or G4 in the future. | Jan 04 01:32 |
| DaemonFC | Now I don't know whether to accept the update or delete the notification and continue using Android 4.2.2. I might just wait and see what it does to other people's phones before I jump in. | Jan 04 01:34 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how LG could screw up Android 4.4 so badly on their own G2 phone, when they did such an excellent job with Android 4.4 on the Nexus 5, which is basically the same phone. | Jan 04 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | The G2 is better in a couple of ways. | Jan 04 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | Better battery capacity and a slightly larger screen. | Jan 04 01:37 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think that they could just reuse the same ROM that they're using on the Nexus 5. | Jan 04 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | The hardware is basically the same. | Jan 04 01:43 |
| MinceR | they don't, though | Jan 04 01:44 |
| MinceR | the nexus 5 gets a mostly stock ROM | Jan 04 01:44 |
| MinceR | and the g2 gets a custom one with extra software features | Jan 04 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | The G2 seems to be mostly stock. | Jan 04 01:44 |
| MinceR | also, the g2 has a microsd card slot | Jan 04 01:44 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint added like one program to it though, that you can't remove. | Jan 04 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | I disabled it though. | Jan 04 01:45 |
| MinceR | afaik stock android doesn't support removable storage at all | Jan 04 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | You can opt-in to an advertisement system that screws Google and app developers over, and makes a ton of money for Sprint. | Jan 04 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 01:45 |
| MinceR | what about qslide and the rest? | Jan 04 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | I opted out and then disabled the program. | Jan 04 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | Is qslide not an Android feature? | Jan 04 01:46 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 04 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I suppose they also had to add their own enhancement to control the IR blaster. | Jan 04 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | The Nexus 5 doesn't have that. | Jan 04 01:46 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 04 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | OK, so it's basically stock android, but they added the qslide and IR blaster programs, and then Sprint added one piece of crapware that I disabled. | Jan 04 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | I could root the phone and delete that app, but then that would void my hardware warranty. | Jan 04 01:47 |
| MinceR | "AnswerMe (which automatically answers a call if the device is held up to a user's head), customizable on-screen buttons, Plug & Pop (which displays a menu of relevant apps when a headset or USB cable is plugged in), Guest Mode, Slide Aside (the ability to switch apps using a three-finger slide gesture that displays a row of cards), and TextLink (which provides options when text is copied depending on the content). The G2 also retains software feat | Jan 04 01:48 |
| DaemonFC | Disabling it frees the resources it was using and doesn't void the warranty. | Jan 04 01:48 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I haven't even seen AnswerMe, | Jan 04 03:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 04 03:02 |
| MinceR | neither have i. | Jan 04 03:02 |
| MinceR | (except on wikipedia) | Jan 04 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Sprint keeps annoying me, trying to do bill cramming. | Jan 04 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | I keep declining. | Jan 04 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | They offered me antivirus software for an extra $2.99 per month and voicemail transcription for $1.99 a month. | Jan 04 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see the point in having either one. | Jan 04 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | One of Google's lead Android developers said that Android antivirus programs were unnecessary and dishonest. Makes me wonder why Google tolerates them in the Play store. | Jan 04 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | There's not that much malware for Android. Most of it is kept out of the Play store. The "better" antivirus software that does exist misses two out of three malicious apps. | Jan 04 03:05 |
| MinceR | they probably don't consider them a threat to google | Jan 04 03:05 |
| MinceR | or to android | Jan 04 03:05 |
| MinceR | also, removing them could lead to backlash. | Jan 04 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the Android section on The Pirate Bay is full of malicious apps. | Jan 04 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | But you'd kind of expect that. | Jan 04 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | Google does a good job of keeping it out of their own store. | Jan 04 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why removing apps that don't do anything except defraud you of money and make your phone run slower would lead to backlash against Google. :) | Jan 04 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | Those antivirus apps fit the definition of malware. | Jan 04 03:07 |
| MinceR | because some people don't believe google when they say antivirus software is unnecessary | Jan 04 03:07 |
| DaemonFC | They scare you into paying them, make your phone run slower, and steal your personal info and send it back to the developer. :) | Jan 04 03:07 |
| MinceR | they would see it as a pro-malware move | Jan 04 03:07 |
| MinceR | do the big name "antivirus" apps really do that, though? | Jan 04 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pretty sure that they do. | Jan 04 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard people complain about AVG and Lookout bogging their phones down. | Jan 04 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | So it seems like you get the "Windows" experience on Android now, if you install those apps. :) | Jan 04 03:09 |
| MinceR | i mean, do they send personal info to the developer? | Jan 04 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | Their Windows programs do. | Jan 04 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | Why wouldn't their Android apps do the same thing? | Jan 04 03:09 |
| DaemonFC | The basic level of functionality is free with the Windows app, but the main point of the free version is to scare you into buying the full version. | Jan 04 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | They'll say that you're not protected against identity theft or some nonsense like that. | Jan 04 03:11 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 04 03:13 |
| MinceR | then again, google can't really complain about apps sending personal info to the developer, can they? :) | Jan 04 03:14 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 04 03:56 |
| DaemonFC | The irony was not lost on me when two antivirus companies based in the Czech Republic claim to require your credit card number in order to protect you from identity fraud. | Jan 04 04:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3479918 | Jan 04 10:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The rise of GNU/Linux-powered mobile OSes in 2013 http://www.muktware.com/2013/12/rise-gnulinux-powered-mobile-oses-2013/18568 | Jan 04 10:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | The rise of GNU/Linux-powered mobile OSes in 2013 | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gbrr8 ] | Jan 04 10:04 |
| schestowitz | "Although, I'm not sure many of these could be called GNU/Linux, but */Linux." | Jan 04 10:04 |
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| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/file-sharing-boosts-creation-of-hit-music-research-finds-140102/ | Jan 04 11:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | File-Sharing Boosts Creation of New Hit Music, Research Finds | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gbs84 ] | Jan 04 11:09 |
| iophk | 'industry' != musicians | Jan 04 11:10 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/01/internet-streaming-music-record-industry | Jan 04 11:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Internet streaming won't save music – the record industry still relies on hits | Media | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gbs8p ] | Jan 04 11:10 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/secops-failure-gpggmail-on-osx-mavericks-may-store-unencrypted-drafts/ | Jan 04 11:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | SecOps failure: GPG+Gmail on OSX Mavericks may store unencrypted drafts | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gbs8u ] | Jan 04 11:11 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/simpsons-pirate-ordered-to-pay-fox-10-5-million-in-damages-140102/ | Jan 04 11:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Simpsons Pirate Ordered to Pay Fox $10.5 Million in Damages | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gbsjg ] | Jan 04 11:35 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 04 13:55 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1NjA | Jan 04 15:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Debian Still Debating Systemd vs. Upstart Init System [ http://ur1.ca/gbxg8 ] | Jan 04 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | Former Canonical employees are trying to steer them into using Upstart. | Jan 04 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | What community? There is no community. There is one company that maintains it, and they have a Contributor License Agreement that assigns them the right to make a proprietary version of it. | Jan 04 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | If Debian adopts Upstart, they will either have to immediately fork it the moment they want to improve anything about it, or they will sign Ubuntu's CLA and agree that Debian's work on Upstart can be turned into proprietary software someday. | Jan 04 15:24 |
| DaemonFC | https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2013/12/msg00234.html | Jan 04 15:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | lists.debian.org | Bug#727708: init system other points, and conclusion [ http://ur1.ca/gbxjs ] | Jan 04 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | LOL @ OpenRC | Jan 04 15:27 |
| DaemonFC | Manual? What manual? | Jan 04 15:28 |
| DaemonFC | It's not like you're going to need to know how to use the software. :) | Jan 04 15:28 |
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| DaemonFC | Comcast messed up my bill again. I was offered $29.99 a month for 12 months, and they actually billed me $59.95 this month. | Jan 04 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | None of them seem to know what they're doing. | Jan 04 16:35 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481449 | Jan 04 18:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The NSA lies about guarding national interests, unless this nation is ownership of just hundreds of men, not hundreds of millions | Jan 04 18:39 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy | Jan 04 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Revealed: how the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gc05e ] | Jan 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html | Jan 04 18:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.gnu.org | Did You Say “Intellectual Property”? It's a Seductive Mirage - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/gc05g ] | Jan 04 18:40 |
| schestowitz | "I'm afraid that is how they really view things but might be confused and think of the company and brand names instead of the owners. We have seen this in Cablegate, where specific companies were favored as the US national interest. We also see it in the crackdown on OWS, where state, local and federal agencies came together at "fusion centers" to work with banks to crush the protests. Surely the people in those centers around the | Jan 04 18:41 |
| schestowitz | country confused the bank's interest with the national interest. We also see it in ludicrous copyright and "intellectual property" legislation that confuses big publisher and brand names with national interest. Owners of these brand names do a good job of hiding their interest by pretending the brands serve employees and the economy but their employees are treated worse than slaves. This is very harmful, leaders help these owners by | Jan 04 18:41 |
| schestowitz | oppressing everyone else and think they are doing something good for everyone." | Jan 04 18:41 |
| schestowitz | "How to reshare with comment?" | Jan 04 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Repost. I will start. | Jan 04 18:41 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy | Jan 04 18:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481398 | Jan 04 18:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Criminalising poverty http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/jan/04/buy-to-let-landlord-evicts-housing-benefit-tenants #uk | Jan 04 18:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Buy-to-let property supremo shuts door on housing benefit tenants | Money | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gc06e ] | Jan 04 18:42 |
| schestowitz | "unHappy New Year." | Jan 04 18:42 |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3482133 | Jan 04 18:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | Will Hill: "I'm a... [ http://ur1.ca/gc06m ] | Jan 04 18:43 |
| schestowitz | htts://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3482133 | Jan 04 18:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.joindiaspora.com/p/3482133 | Jan 04 18:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | Will Hill: "I'm a... | Jan 04 18:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.joindiaspora.com/p/3482133 | Jan 04 18:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3480303 | Jan 04 18:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The drones which today indiscriminately kill... history of the technology as children’s toys, not weapons." http://www.globalresearch.ca/haiti-drones-and-slavery/5363582?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=haiti-drones-and-slavery | Jan 04 18:48 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, but I love my toys." | Jan 04 18:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.globalresearch.ca | Haiti: Drones and Slavery | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gc09m ] | Jan 04 18:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3479721 | Jan 04 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blocking: what could possibly go wrong? https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/blocking-what-could-possibly-go-wrong blocking truth, too http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/71751684734/serious-question-seriously-was-george-carlin-ever | Jan 04 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - Blocking: what could possibly go wrong? [ http://ur1.ca/gbrqt ] | Jan 04 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> lessig.tumblr.com | Lessig Blog, v2 [ http://ur1.ca/gbhky ] | Jan 04 18:49 |
| schestowitz | "Better to have Open Spectrum and really decentralize communications." | Jan 04 18:49 |
| schestowitz | This might facilitate - GASP - protests or marches | Jan 04 18:49 |
| schestowitz | This might facilitate - GASP - protests or marches | Jan 04 18:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481248 | Jan 04 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: | Jan 04 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by dubbelmubbel@despora.de: https://despora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ef950bbe9f3f29c4a8b1.jpeg | Jan 04 18:50 |
| schestowitz | "you should also research the effects that Geo-engineering has on the changes of our climate - you'd be surprised to learn how easily our weather is manipulated" | Jan 04 18:50 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3480163 | Jan 04 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Espionage relies on ability to "crack the codes of banking, medical, business and government codes around the world" http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/nsa-secretly-funds-quantum-computer-research-break-global-codes/18715 | Jan 04 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | NSA secretly funds quantum computer research to break global codes | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gbrqm ] | Jan 04 18:50 |
| schestowitz | "What a perfect metaphor for the whole problem and the solution. The D-Wave quantum computers already bought and being tested, work at doing what their masters bid them, but only as long as the process of their calculations aren't observed. If we can ensure that they're kept under observation, they're incapable of creating harm." | Jan 04 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the US is under extreme cold right now. | Jan 04 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | The temperature where I'm at will drop to about 20 degrees below zero (F) on Monday night. | Jan 04 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad I had them switch me over to 5w30 motor oil before winter hit. | Jan 04 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | 10w30 would give me a serious fight if I tried to start my car at that temperature. | Jan 04 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | I used to use 10w30 year round and never had a problem with it until just the last few years. | Jan 04 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | http://qz.com/131436/contrary-to-what-youve-heard-android-is-almost-impenetrable-to-malware/ | Jan 04 19:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | qz.com | Contrary to what you’ve heard, Android is almost impenetrable to malware – Quartz [ http://ur1.ca/fy2nv ] | Jan 04 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | Google says that even if you're installing apps from outside the Play store, you're still pretty safe. | Jan 04 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | 1,200 per million app installs from outside the play store are "potentially malicious", or about 0.12%. | Jan 04 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | And "potentially malicious" doesn't necessarily mean malicious. | Jan 04 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them are just rooting apps or request odd permissions that malware might need. | Jan 04 19:31 |
| MinceR | and there are more lines of defense than the play store | Jan 04 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Google introduced Verify Apps in Android 4.2. | Jan 04 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | It's basically a built in malware detector. | Jan 04 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | It will warn you and prevent the app from installing if it believes the behavior is potentially malicious. | Jan 04 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Or if it's on Google's list of bad apps. | Jan 04 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | You can override it. | Jan 04 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | The permissions that you really need to worry about are obviously going to be "make phone calls" and "send SMS messages". | Jan 04 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Almost half of all actual malware sends SMS messages and phone calls to "premium numbers" to bill fraudulant charges to your phone bill. | Jan 04 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | They also text copies of themselves to other people in your phone's contact list. | Jan 04 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the Android malware scare traces back to companies that want to sell you antivirus subscriptions, or have ties to Microsoft or Apple. | Jan 04 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | If it makes you sleep better to waste $3 a month on antivirus subscriptions, then I guess you can go for it. | Jan 04 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 04 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | I try to avoid being nickel and dimed like that. | Jan 04 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | I've counted several ways that Sprint tries to tack on an extra $1-2-3 onto your bill for a la carte services. | Jan 04 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | I guess you really can't blame them. They are a business, and their goal is to make money. | Jan 04 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Their monthly subscription price for voice, text, and data is pretty reasonable. | Jan 04 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | They're obviously looking for little things they can bill you extra for to make up for the low monthly price. | Jan 04 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | I hate antivirus companies, period. | Jan 04 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | One of the best things about getting rid of Windows is that there's no $50 a year antivirus subscription. | Jan 04 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | Over 10 years, you save $500 on that alone. | Jan 04 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gizmondo | Jan 04 19:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Gizmondo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jan 04 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | I remember these. A lot of tech magazines said it was going to be huge, and then they ended up selling less than 25,000 of them and going under. | Jan 04 19:49 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482178 | Jan 04 20:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Oracle refuses to even distance itself from #nsa leaks, allegations. Ellison openly supports NSA, has CIA past.Why trust MySQL, Unbreakable? | Jan 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | "And why trust oracle Java? :P" | Jan 04 20:20 |
| schestowitz | I didn't want to list a comprehensive list of Oracle products | Jan 04 20:20 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482254 | Jan 04 20:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Common myths in British minds: blacks inclined t/w violence, race is economic condition, low wages not an injustice, privatisation is good | Jan 04 20:21 |
| schestowitz | "30 yrs of Thatcherism?" | Jan 04 20:21 |
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| schestowitz | "If there were no correlation between race and SES, it would not be regarded as an economic condition. But I'm pretty sure that's not what you're talking about." | Jan 04 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle has two selling points for "Unbreakable". | Jan 04 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | Lower support costs and it's tuned to run their own software faster. | Jan 04 20:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3477901 | Jan 04 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1ODc #linux #bluray - for those who need to use physical storage not as 'consumers' | Jan 04 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Open-Source Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux [ http://ur1.ca/gbgoi ] | Jan 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | "VHS is a superior format in many respects. Still better than DVD, Flash media and hard drives. I set up my Raspberry Pi with OpenELEC today. Played an old Samurai movie from a flash drive. So you can really treat DVDs like temporary, or backup media. Just rip it to a HDD, SSD, or flash drive. At least it won't fuck up when you scratch it. Still, as bad as DVDs are, the place where media is getting the nastiest is online. It's where | Jan 04 20:24 |
| schestowitz | the industry is moving." | Jan 04 20:24 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: | Jan 04 20:55 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: | Jan 04 20:56 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: | Jan 04 20:56 |
| MinceR | Jan 04 20:56 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: this event isn't looking very hopeful for merchandice | Jan 04 20:57 |
| sebsebseb | for freebies | Jan 04 20:57 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: openSUSE stuff and that's about it reay it's looking like | Jan 04 20:57 |
| MinceR | no surprise | Jan 04 20:57 |
| sebsebseb | I can't just gget Ubuntu stuff from the UK rep for example | Jan 04 20:57 |
| sebsebseb | and Mint I don't think has anything suitable realy anyway and is probaby hard to get something from | Jan 04 20:58 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/lastwheel/status/419581014084562944 | Jan 04 21:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @lastwheel: @schestowitz I disagree. It's a very interesting question and response. Obv the asker was hoping to trip Assange up. I laughed too. | Jan 04 21:35 |
| schestowitz | They can be implicated in charges and they follow legal advice. No surprise there. Appelbaum returns to US. | Jan 04 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | shared Occupy Democrats's photo. | Jan 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | 4 minutes ago · Edited | Jan 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p526x296/1554369_567620163331042_1677805345_n.jpg | Jan 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | My question is... If this is allowed to go through, then when will the Supreme Court strike down the minimum wage because it goes against Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Hobby Lobby can't be allowed to argue successfully that corporations are people with religious beliefs, or there will be a terrible anti-worker precedent that will be set, with no end in sight. | Jan 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | When do they get to stop paying overtime because it's against the Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | When do they get to turn away health and safety inspectors because public safety regulations are against their Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | When do they get to turn away Environmental Protection Agency inspectors because pollution control laws violate the Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Corporations only have one belief. That belief is that they should do anything that they can get away with in order to make more money. Corporations are not concerned about the standard of living of their workers. Corporations are not concerned about polluting our environment. Corporations don't care about anything except making more money. | Jan 04 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Fines usually don't stop them from breaking the law. They see breaking the law as a "calculated risk". They weigh the amount of money that lawbreaking will make for them against the possibility of being caught and the size of the fine. | Jan 04 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | In modern times, the government doesn't generally go looking, and when they do, the fine is far less than the illegally obtained profit. | Jan 04 21:42 |
| Sosumi | oracle itself is a CIA creation | Jan 04 21:50 |
| Sosumi | no surprise in Larry supporting the multiple programs | Jan 04 21:50 |
| Sosumi | *snooping programs | Jan 04 21:51 |
| DaemonFC | about a minute ago | Jan 04 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | So, since Comcast basically lied to me about the price I would be paying, to get me off of the phone, and to increase that lying agent's retention count, I've been going over my options. | Jan 04 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint will sell you 5 GB of tethering, but it comes at an additional cost of $30 a month. So, that's not going to be a replacement for my cable internet. | Jan 04 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | There are a few options to tether without your carrier granting permission or even knowing that you're doing it, and then you can take advantage of your unlimited 4G LTE data plan. | Jan 04 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | The options are not all that appealing to me. | Jan 04 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | One is to install an app like PDANet or Fox-Fi. They have a one time fee of about $15 to use their fully featured wifi hotspot tethering functionality. OK. No big deal. Compared with paying Comcast $60-something a month, a one time fee of $15 is a bargain. But, the catch seems to be that you have to install some kind of proprietary computer software onto your PC. That software only seems to exist for Mac OS and Windows, and I don't have any | Jan 04 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | computers that run those operating systems, and I really don't want to use either of them. Furthermore, there's no telling if the data that you route through that application is secure. It would be pretty easy to launch a man in the middle attack on it. And, it appears that some protocols that I use heavily, like bittorrent, are not supported at all. | Jan 04 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | So, that's out of the question. | Jan 04 21:55 |
| DaemonFC | The other option would be to root my phone and install the CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android alternative firmware onto it. I like the idea of CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android, but rooting the phone and replacing the firmware automatically voids both the phone's warranty and Sprint's damage/loss/theft insurance. Besides, I don't even know if either firmware will work on my phone. | Jan 04 21:56 |
| DaemonFC | So it looks like the only option is to keep paying Comcast. If anyone has another idea, I'm all ears. | Jan 04 21:56 |
| Sosumi | no other ISP? | Jan 04 22:01 |
| Sosumi | and how can you be paying $60 a month for some internet only line | Jan 04 22:02 |
| Sosumi | makes no sense | Jan 04 22:02 |
| MinceR | is there no DSL or something? | Jan 04 22:02 |
| Sosumi | that in here gets you unlimited calls, tv with mainstream channels and 12MB internet | Jan 04 22:03 |
| Sosumi | on a dsl service, it is 34€ for an enterprise line with free calls for landline | Jan 04 22:04 |
| Sosumi | on copper | Jan 04 22:04 |
| Sosumi | better check what's around | Jan 04 22:05 |
| Sosumi | for a better alternative | Jan 04 22:05 |
| Sosumi | comcast(astrophic) | Jan 04 22:06 |
| Snowleaksange | 160 usd for tv,internet,phone from comcast for me | Jan 04 22:07 |
| schestowitz | [21:50] <Sosumi> oracle itself is a CIA creation | Jan 04 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Not directly, but yes | Jan 04 22:07 |
| Sosumi | in-q-tel | Jan 04 22:08 |
| schestowitz | to be pedantic, I think CIA benkrolled it by becoming a large costumer | Jan 04 22:08 |
| schestowitz | the CIA funding body also funds all sorts of DB companies | Jan 04 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Not necessarily because it wants to use them to hoard data itself | Jan 04 22:08 |
| schestowitz | it can find ways to take over data of users of those DB techs | Jan 04 22:08 |
| schestowitz | *customer | Jan 04 22:08 |
| schestowitz | Same for Amazon ATM | Jan 04 22:09 |
| schestowitz | !google bezos washpo cia | Jan 04 22:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 26,000 Sign Petition Demanding Washington Post Disclose Bezos ... | http://www.occupy.com/article/26000-sign-petition-demanding-washington-post-disclose-bezos-amazon%25E2%2580%2599s-cia-ties | Jan 04 22:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - CIA Cloud Over Jeff Bezos's Washington Post | Accuracy.Org | http://www.accuracy.org/release/cia-cloud-over-jeff-bezoss-washington-post/ | Jan 04 22:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Jeff Bezos Is Doing Huge Business with the CIA, While Keeping His ... | http://www.alternet.org/media/owner-washington-post-doing-business-cia-while-keeping-his-readers-dark | Jan 04 22:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Washington Post Urged to Disclose New Owner's CIA Ties | http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/sectors/item/17261-washington-post-urged-to-disclose-new-owner-s-cia-ties | Jan 04 22:09 |
| schestowitz | !google amazon wikileaks | Jan 04 22:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - WikiLeaks website pulled by Amazon after US political pressure ... | http://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-website-cables-servers-amazon | Jan 04 22:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - WikiLeaks - Amazon Web Services | http://aws.amazon.com/message/65348/ | Jan 04 22:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - WikiLeaks: Inside Julian Assange's War on Secrecy ... - Amazon.com | http://www.amazon.com/WikiLeaks-Inside-Julian-Assanges-Secrecy/dp/B0057D9LJG | Jan 04 22:09 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - How Lieberman Got Amazon To Drop Wikileaks - Talking Points Memo | http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/how-lieberman-got-amazon-to-drop-wikileaks | Jan 04 22:09 |
| Sosumi | yes I know the about the amazon deal | Jan 04 22:09 |
| schestowitz | brb | Jan 04 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Snowleaksange,I'm supposed to be paying about $80 after equipment rental and taxes. | Jan 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | But I managed to get it down to about $64 by bitching. | Jan 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Still too much. | Jan 04 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I could have them drop me down to their 3 Mbps tier. That would be $29.99 + $8 a month for the equipment rental. | Jan 04 22:16 |
| Snowleaksange | seems im getting ripped off | Jan 04 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | Between my rent and cable internet going up, that's already wiped out my raise. | Jan 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 04 22:18 |
| Sosumi | you are, big time too | Jan 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | Now I have to deal with everything else going up as well | Jan 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know we can be told that inflation is only 1.5%. | Jan 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | What the fuck only went up by 1.5%? | Jan 04 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't food. It wasn't gas. It wasn't housing. It wasn't utilities. | Jan 04 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | Sure as hell wasn't the cable. | Jan 04 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad I have my rewards credit card at least. | Jan 04 22:19 |
| DaemonFC | I can claw a little bit back out of the bastards with that. | Jan 04 22:19 |
| Snowleaksange | 144 for HD starter bundle | Jan 04 22:20 |
| Snowleaksange | 20 bux for hbo and streampix | Jan 04 22:20 |
| Snowleaksange | 7 bux for internet | Jan 04 22:20 |
| Snowleaksange | free phone service | Jan 04 22:21 |
| DaemonFC | When Comcast says free, it means check your wallet. | Jan 04 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | And your asshole. | Jan 04 22:24 |
| Sosumi | I don't see why bother with cable | Jan 04 22:24 |
| Sosumi | tv is crap anyways | Jan 04 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | Because DSL is the only other option. | Jan 04 22:24 |
| DaemonFC | I don't subscribe to cable TV or phone. | Jan 04 22:25 |
| Sosumi | and there are internet feeds anyways | Jan 04 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | Why would I? | Jan 04 22:25 |
| Sosumi | dsl | Jan 04 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | First of all, I have this thing called a smartphone. | Jan 04 22:25 |
| Sosumi | seems just fine | Jan 04 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | So why would I pay Comcast an extra $20-30 to provide a landline that doesn't go anywhere? | Jan 04 22:25 |
| Snowleaksange | im watching nfl playoffs atm, and watch hbo shows | Jan 04 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | That's what bittorrent is for. | Jan 04 22:25 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 22:25 |
| Sosumi | piratebay baby | Jan 04 22:25 |
| Sosumi | :) | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Snowleaksange | i dont like pirating shows | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Snowleaksange | ive pirated shows that got cancelled before | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Sosumi | *sharing | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Sosumi | it is called sharing | Jan 04 22:26 |
| DaemonFC | What's not to like? It's free and there are no commercials. | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Snowleaksange | like abc's Invasion that only ran for 1 series | Jan 04 22:26 |
| Sosumi | someone recorded it and decided to share it with the world | Jan 04 22:27 |
| Snowleaksange | was really upset when it got cancelled | Jan 04 22:27 |
| Snowleaksange | but i realized i wasnt supporting it | Jan 04 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | I don't feel bad for them at all. | Jan 04 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | If they wanted to, they could bypass the cable company and stream it for free with their own ads, and they'd make more money. | Jan 04 22:27 |
| DaemonFC | The cable company is an anachronism. It's like paying a company to deliver ice with a horse-drawn cart. | Jan 04 22:28 |
| Sosumi | direct stream through the internet | Jan 04 22:28 |
| Sosumi | with their own adds | Jan 04 22:28 |
| Sosumi | or a paid version with 0 adds | Jan 04 22:28 |
| Snowleaksange | i can also afford it | Jan 04 22:29 |
| Snowleaksange | i think pirating is fine for college kids without money | Jan 04 22:29 |
| Sosumi | I can too | Jan 04 22:29 |
| Sosumi | but that doesn't mean the I like to be raped | Jan 04 22:29 |
| Snowleaksange | they dont have anything to lose from getting sued so they may as well | Jan 04 22:29 |
| Sosumi | in the wallet | Jan 04 22:29 |
| Snowleaksange | dont understand that metaphor | Jan 04 22:30 |
| Sosumi | you're overpaying | Jan 04 22:31 |
| Sosumi | for what you are getting | Jan 04 22:31 |
| Snowleaksange | thats debatable | Jan 04 22:32 |
| Snowleaksange | would you agree that pirating is underpaying? | Jan 04 22:32 |
| Sosumi | *sharing is ok | Jan 04 22:32 |
| Sosumi | buying the boxed show is and also sharing is ok | Jan 04 22:32 |
| Snowleaksange | sharing is when you have legal right to do so | Jan 04 22:33 |
| Snowleaksange | pirating is when you "share" without right to | Jan 04 22:34 |
| Sosumi | once you bought you have the right to do whatever you want you want with it | Jan 04 22:34 |
| Snowleaksange | not legally | Jan 04 22:35 |
| Sosumi | and you as conscious person who thinks you're being unfairly subjected to some terms of services | Jan 04 22:35 |
| Sosumi | break them | Jan 04 22:35 |
| Snowleaksange | i believe in a society of laws | Jan 04 22:35 |
| Sosumi | it wasn't legal for the US to break from british control | Jan 04 22:36 |
| Sosumi | yet... | Jan 04 22:36 |
| Sosumi | nor it is legal to bomb foreign countries into smitherins | Jan 04 22:37 |
| Sosumi | like libya, iraq, afghanistan, somalia, etc | Jan 04 22:37 |
| Snowleaksange | everyone has to choose for themselves the laws theyre willing to break for reasons theyre willing to break them | Jan 04 22:37 |
| Sosumi | exactly | Jan 04 22:37 |
| Sosumi | and this model of content distribution needs to change | Jan 04 22:38 |
| Sosumi | and adapt with the times | Jan 04 22:38 |
| Sosumi | or just die | Jan 04 22:38 |
| Sosumi | it's natural selection | Jan 04 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see anything wrong with pirating if you have no money. | Jan 04 22:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's certainly not a lost sale if you don't have any money in the budget to pay them, | Jan 04 22:40 |
| Sosumi | then why not a direct feed from the content creator | Jan 04 22:41 |
| Sosumi | with adds | Jan 04 22:41 |
| Snowleaksange | yeah i agree w that, as i said | Jan 04 22:41 |
| Sosumi | for "pirating" you are already payinh for internet I assume | Jan 04 22:41 |
| Sosumi | and the content makers would still be cashing some €€€ | Jan 04 22:42 |
| Snowleaksange | what do you guys think of China's approach to intellectual property rights? | Jan 04 22:43 |
| Sosumi | you mean the fake mockups model? | Jan 04 22:43 |
| Snowleaksange | well i mean just not enforcing at all | Jan 04 22:44 |
| Sosumi | well if that is the case | Jan 04 22:45 |
| Sosumi | then it is ok | Jan 04 22:45 |
| Sosumi | let the content creators sort things out through competition in order to get sales | Jan 04 22:45 |
| Sosumi | instead of sitting on their lazy asses cashing on stuff | Jan 04 22:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482545 | Jan 04 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not enough money for health and education, but "Pentagon Spending Over $1 Trillion on the F-35 Fighter J" http://www.dailyfinance.com/2014/01/04/drones-are-the-future-of-war-so-why-is-the-pentago/ | Jan 04 22:46 |
| schestowitz | "For the security! Why does nobody get this? #irony" | Jan 04 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.dailyfinance.com | Drones Are the Future of War, So Why Is the Pentagon Spending Over $1 Trillion on the F-35 Fighter J - DailyFinance [ http://ur1.ca/gc2q4 ] | Jan 04 22:46 |
| Sosumi | schestowitz, the f35 is the new comanche | Jan 04 22:47 |
| Sosumi | it'll be canceled in the end | Jan 04 22:47 |
| Sosumi | plus, the airplane conception, in the way that it is being handled will mean that all they're going to get is flying turd | Jan 04 22:48 |
| Sosumi | of which even a f16 will be able to outmaneuver | Jan 04 22:48 |
| Sosumi | not to mention drones | Jan 04 22:49 |
| Sosumi | drones and drone barges are the future | Jan 04 22:49 |
| Sosumi | because of the lack of need to submit pilots to g forces | Jan 04 22:49 |
| Sosumi | and the possibility to construct smaller airplanes OR planes with higher payloads | Jan 04 22:50 |
| Sosumi | I said that for the first time in 2003 | Jan 04 22:50 |
| Sosumi | after playing freelancer :) | Jan 04 22:51 |
| Sosumi | simply because it actually made sense | Jan 04 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to go to ALDI real quick before the snowstorm gets here. | Jan 04 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | Subzero temps and a foot of snow. | Jan 04 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 04 22:51 |
| Sosumi | at least in my 13 years old head | Jan 04 22:51 |
| DaemonFC | I should probably get at least a week's worth of food. | Jan 04 22:52 |
| Sosumi | DaemonFC, in which part of the US are you in? | Jan 04 22:52 |
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| DaemonFC | northern Indiana | Jan 04 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | Near Fort Wayne. | Jan 04 22:54 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to pick up some of that tuna salad they have at ALDI. I love that stuff. | Jan 04 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | or chicken salad.... | Jan 04 22:55 |
| DaemonFC | their chicken salad is good too | Jan 04 22:55 |
| Snowleaksange | 65 in silicon valley :P | Jan 04 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't done any grocery shopping since November. | Jan 04 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | I've been living on fast food coupons. | Jan 04 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jan 04 22:56 |
| Sosumi | you need to make some retirement plans and relocate to southern spain or portugal | Jan 04 22:56 |
| Sosumi | look, no snow :) | Jan 04 22:57 |
| Sosumi | only rain and it's not very cold | Jan 04 22:57 |
| Sosumi | you can still walk around in shorts | Jan 04 22:57 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. If I had the money, I'd leave. | Jan 04 22:58 |
| DaemonFC | Like, if some hypothetical rich uncle died and left me in the will, and I had money tomorrow, I wouldn't be in Indiana on Monday. | Jan 04 22:58 |
| Sosumi | you remember that trick I mentioned here, right? | Jan 04 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | Going to ALDI. I have about an hour or two before the major snowing starts. | Jan 04 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | That's *if* the forecast is accurate. | Jan 04 22:59 |
| DaemonFC | It told me all clear to 9 PM last Sunday, so I drove a friend home about 30 miles from here thinking I had time to beat the storm. | Jan 04 23:00 |
| DaemonFC | It got nasty at around 7:15, when I had most of the drive left. | Jan 04 23:00 |
| Snowleaksange | i became suddenly rich at the end of november. havent done anything different yet | Jan 04 23:02 |
| Sosumi | Snowleaksange, by coercing your rich uncle to make you his single heir and then poisoning him? :P | Jan 04 23:04 |
| schestowitz | "Hey, don't lick the door!" | Jan 04 23:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482850 | Jan 04 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ***Thief! :D*** | Jan 04 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif | Jan 04 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif | Jan 04 23:04 |
| Snowleaksange | similar result. Apple bought a company that i cofounded but hadnt worked at for years. got email basically saying, hey where should we wire you millions of dollars | Jan 04 23:05 |
| Sosumi | so they wanted your share in the company? | Jan 04 23:06 |
| Snowleaksange | yeah | Jan 04 23:06 |
| Sosumi | now employ that money well | Jan 04 23:07 |
| MinceR | what did that company do? | Jan 04 23:08 |
| Snowleaksange | twitter search engine | Jan 04 23:08 |
| Snowleaksange | well started by paying 650k in taxes | Jan 04 23:08 |
| Snowleaksange | to be wasted on bunch of useless military bases, spy infrastructure, and covert operations basically diametrically opposed to my interests | Jan 04 23:09 |
| Sosumi | like in backing some student's research in AI and artificial life | Jan 04 23:09 |
| Sosumi | specially if they are from instituto superior tecnico - portugal | Jan 04 23:09 |
| Snowleaksange | my most recent employment was on "AI" team in machine intelligence group at Google | Jan 04 23:10 |
| Snowleaksange | think theyve p much got it covered | Jan 04 23:10 |
| Snowleaksange | also hard to do AI research without 10k cores to devote to your whims | Jan 04 23:11 |
| Sosumi | that was one of my main points, computability | Jan 04 23:12 |
| Sosumi | and without grants there isn't exactly much that be done other than be creative | Jan 04 23:13 |
| Sosumi | maliciously creative, I should say, but never mind that I said that | Jan 04 23:14 |
| Snowleaksange | i think knowledge representation is one of biggest hurdles. i think just going to take a lot of trial & error to stumble upon frame representations that really work | Jan 04 23:15 |
| Sosumi | not my problem | Jan 04 23:37 |
| Sosumi | it started as a trading platform to anallise the chatter on the internet and then predict stock values in an automated fashion | Jan 04 23:39 |
| Sosumi | I tested it in stock that don't make it to main index | Jan 04 23:39 |
| Sosumi | in this case psi pink sheets | Jan 04 23:40 |
| Sosumi | and even resorted to spam in order to coerce ppl in buying 0.40€ stock in some company they never heard off | Jan 04 23:41 |
| Sosumi | but I wanted it to be better, probably "inspired" by norbert wiener's "cybernetics" | Jan 04 23:42 |
| Sosumi | into some form of artificial life | Jan 04 23:43 |
| Sosumi | but because of the shady methods used there, there is no way to get grants to buy equipment | Jan 04 23:44 |
| Sosumi | but at least I'm free to use already existent resources | Jan 04 23:44 |
| Sosumi | and I got all the time I want in order to clean up the case for appreciation to actually get a grant | Jan 04 23:45 |
| Sosumi | that was what a teacher said to me | Jan 04 23:45 |
| Sosumi | but I could clean up things, show an actual working concept and go to kickstarter for funding | Jan 04 23:46 |
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| Sosumi | instead of getting my hands tied to the calouste gulbenkian foundation, which is the main and only place to get grants from | Jan 04 23:47 |
| Sosumi | actually, hands tied to and by them | Jan 04 23:48 |
| Snowleaksange | cool | Jan 04 23:49 |
| Sosumi | instead of being free to actually set my own goals | Jan 04 23:49 |
| Snowleaksange | yeah getting funding difficult and usually more trouble than worth because the you have to please your funders | Jan 04 23:49 |
| Snowleaksange | unless business already very close to profitability | Jan 04 23:49 |
| Snowleaksange | youre young tho. youve got time, inspiration, energy | Jan 04 23:50 |
| Sosumi | 24 | Jan 04 23:50 |
| Snowleaksange | more important than funding. can work dayjob | Jan 04 23:50 |
| Sosumi | that started in 2009 | Jan 04 23:50 |
| Sosumi | when I was 19 and during my time out before entering university | Jan 04 23:51 |
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| MinceR | it's a pretty good party, i'd say :> | Dec 28 16:27 |
| Sosumi | :) | Dec 28 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | I'll probably go to Bandidos and pig out, and have a couple of margaritas. | Dec 28 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 28 16:28 |
| Sosumi | apparently everyone forgot about me, so I'll just be preparing for the finals and finishing the last project of the semester | Dec 28 16:32 |
| Sosumi | but I guess I'll forget about them next year | Dec 28 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link via Jezebel. | Dec 28 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | 8 seconds ago | Dec 28 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://trib.al/Guv2yoX | Dec 28 16:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | jezebel.com | Teens Loathe Facebook Because of All the Old People and Baby Pics | Dec 28 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | Having a baby is not an accomplishment, nor is it particularly difficult. Even some fish can do it. I don't like reading the birth announcements in newspapers, because they aren't interesting, and they fuel natalist pressure which leads to the destruction of the environment. I find the obituaries to be much more interesting to read. | Dec 28 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | (paraphrasing Richard Stallman) | Dec 28 16:35 |
| Sosumi | ppl creating facebook picts for children or pets | Dec 28 16:36 |
| MinceR | he's right. | Dec 28 16:36 |
| Sosumi | kind of resemble that movie "Final Cut" | Dec 28 16:36 |
| Sosumi | in which you'd get a brain implant at birth that'd record your entire life | Dec 28 16:37 |
| Sosumi | so that when you died, a "cutter", would make a movie about your life to show at the funeral | Dec 28 16:38 |
| Sosumi | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364343/ | Dec 28 16:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.imdb.com | The Final Cut (2004) - IMDb | Dec 28 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link via Daily Kos. | Dec 28 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | 19 minutes ago · | Dec 28 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/23/1264955/-This-graph-shows-why-solar-power-will-take-over-the-world?detail=facebook | Dec 28 16:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: This graph shows why solar power will take over the world [ http://ur1.ca/g9xwk ] | Dec 28 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | The right-wing bribery organization known as ALEC is already telling the Republicans to pass laws that fine people for installing solar panels on their own rooftops. | Dec 28 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | So much for freedom and liberty, huh? | Dec 28 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | If I owned my own home, I'd be calling Solar City and having them install panels on my roof. | Dec 28 16:38 |
| DaemonFC | You know... | Dec 28 16:39 |
| Sosumi | lawl, you know.... | Dec 28 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | Rand Paul went on a 20 minute speech about the government requiring water-efficient toilets. | Dec 28 16:39 |
| Sosumi | if solar panels do indeed take hold | Dec 28 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | He said that people should be able to choose what kind of toilet goes into their bathroom. | Dec 28 16:39 |
| MinceR | well, it's their idol Ronnie Raygun who removed the solar panels from the White House | Dec 28 16:39 |
| MinceR | so no surprise there | Dec 28 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | Now he's saying that he wants to stop people and private businesses from installing solar panels and wind turbines | Dec 28 16:40 |
| Sosumi | they'll start taxing you for every watt of electricity you produce for your own use | Dec 28 16:40 |
| DaemonFC | :/ | Dec 28 16:40 |
| Sosumi | just like they do in spain | Dec 28 16:40 |
| MinceR | it's sad that about half of usians still take the republicans seriously | Dec 28 16:40 |
| Sosumi | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24272061 | Dec 28 16:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Spain’s sunshine toll: Row over proposed solar tax [ http://ur1.ca/g9xx0 ] | Dec 28 16:40 |
| Sosumi | http://www.aljazeera.com/video/europe/2013/10/spain-approves-tax-solar-panels-20131088950355608.html | Dec 28 16:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.aljazeera.com | Spain approves tax on solar panels - Europe - Al Jazeera English [ http://ur1.ca/g9xx7 ] | Dec 28 16:41 |
| Sosumi | in Spain, they tax the "daylights" out of you | Dec 28 16:41 |
| DaemonFC | Does anyone know if Windows Phone lets you install Firefox? | Dec 28 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | I know iPhones don't allow that. | Dec 28 16:42 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Dec 28 16:42 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just curious. Facebook is posting Windows phone ads. | Dec 28 16:42 |
| Sosumi | I've never seen a windows phone around | Dec 28 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | If a phone doesn't allow Firefox, then I don't want the phone. Period. End of discussion. :) | Dec 28 16:43 |
| MinceR | it's not a real firefox | Dec 28 16:43 |
| MinceR | it uses the ie "engine" on winblows phony | Dec 28 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | Seriously? Ewww. | Dec 28 16:43 |
| MinceR | just like on hypeOS | Dec 28 16:43 |
| Sosumi | *facepalm* | Dec 28 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | No, Apple booted out Firefox Home, which wasn't even a browser. | Dec 28 16:43 |
| MinceR | ic | Dec 28 16:43 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla said they won't make an iOS version until Apple allow them to use Gecko. | Dec 28 16:44 |
| MinceR | m$ is really desperate to force that shitty excuse for a browser on people | Dec 28 16:44 |
| MinceR | since no sane person wants to use it | Dec 28 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | Apple told them they could make a Firefox app as long as it was really Safari underneath. | Dec 28 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla declined, and said it was because it wouldn't really be Firefox and they couldn't really claim to support the system Webkit or fix problems with it. | Dec 28 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 28 16:44 |
| DaemonFC | So, I don't know why they'd use Trident on Windows Phone. | Dec 28 16:44 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 28 16:44 |
| MinceR | http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/firefox/6544df57-dd9c-4a61-bf89-9ba3832b849c | Dec 28 16:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.windowsphone.com | Firefox | Windows Phone Apps+Games Store (United States) [ http://ur1.ca/g9xxk ] | Dec 28 16:45 |
| MinceR | this is what i've found | Dec 28 16:45 |
| MinceR | dunno if it's fake | Dec 28 16:45 |
| MinceR | "This app is no longer published", though | Dec 28 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of Android browsers that use the system Webkit, but Firefox doesn't. | Dec 28 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | Neither does Opera. | Dec 28 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | Opera brings along its own Webkit. | Dec 28 16:45 |
| MinceR | opera switched to khtml too | Dec 28 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | Google allows that too. | Dec 28 16:45 |
| MinceR | oh, its own | Dec 28 16:45 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, it's webkit, but it's Opera's webkit, not the system webkit. | Dec 28 16:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3457399 | Dec 28 16:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: Not just Ubuntu: All GNU Linux Distributions Store Wi-Fi Passwords in Plain Text If You Don’t Use Encryption http://news.softpedia.com/news/All-Linux-Distributions-Store-Wi-Fi-Passwords-in-Plain-Text-If-You-Don-t-Use-Encryption-412387.shtml | Dec 28 16:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | All Linux Distributions Store Wi-Fi Passwords in Plain Text If You Don’t Use Encryption [ http://ur1.ca/g9w5v ] | Dec 28 16:46 |
| schestowitz | "The problem is not GNU/Linux distributions, is NetworkManager" | Dec 28 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see a problem with that. It should be allowed. App developers can't fix problems that occur in the system webkit, so they shouldn't have to use it. | Dec 28 16:46 |
| DaemonFC | If they want to take responsibility for what their app does, they should have the choice. | Dec 28 16:46 |
| MinceR | i doubt that all GNU/Linux distributions ship with NetworkManager | Dec 28 16:47 |
| MinceR | TinyCore didn't have it, iirc | Dec 28 16:47 |
| MinceR | at least not by default | Dec 28 16:47 |
| MinceR | neither did Angstrom | Dec 28 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox for Android is Gecko. Opera is using its own webkit. Chrome uses its own webkit. Browser uses system webkit. Dolphin uses the system webkit. | Dec 28 16:47 |
| MinceR | so that's yet another bullshit FUD headline | Dec 28 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | It took me a while to figure all of this out. | Dec 28 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | I like Gecko better than Webkit in general. | Dec 28 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | Though webkit has gotten better... | Dec 28 16:48 |
| MinceR | so do i | Dec 28 16:48 |
| MinceR | gecko doesn't crash nearly as often | Dec 28 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME Web with the latest GTK Webkit and Webkit 2 enabled is very nice. | Dec 28 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, Webkit crashes sometimes, but with Webkit 2 enabled, it only crashes one tab. | Dec 28 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | So, GNOME Web is more like Chrome now. | Dec 28 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | in that aspect | Dec 28 16:49 |
| MinceR | for me it tended to take the browser with itself | Dec 28 16:49 |
| MinceR | and in the case of crashium, the kernel | Dec 28 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Firefox crashes take out the whole browser, but Firefox crashing is rare these days, and it has a recovery system so it's more of a nuisance than a real problem. | Dec 28 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | It will even recover text you entered in entry fields. | Dec 28 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | I like GNOME Web and Firefox. They're both good browsers. | Dec 28 16:50 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is definitely easier to customize, but GNOME Web is easier to use. I like the option "Enable web advertisements" as a checkbox in the settings menu by default. | Dec 28 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | Firefox is never going to do that. | Dec 28 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of that stupid-ass "DNT" thing. | Dec 28 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | How about not loading ads and tracking sites in the first place? | Dec 28 16:51 |
| DaemonFC | Adblock Edge is the way to go, but it should be built into the browser. | Dec 28 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | The setup wizard should ask the user on first start if they even want to see ads. | Dec 28 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that anyone would be free to fork Firefox and build in some of the more useful extensions. | Dec 28 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | Many users that come from browsers like Safari or IE don't even know that Adblock Edge exists. | Dec 28 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | When I set up Firefox for Dave, I put in Adblock Edge, and showed him how much more pleasant it was to use than IE. | Dec 28 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | He's been using Firefox for a couple of years now. | Dec 28 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks to GNOME Web, I was able to quit using Flash and remove it. | Dec 28 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually, Fedora will probably build Firefox to play h264 if gstreamer supports it. | Dec 28 16:54 |
| DaemonFC | They said they wanted to wait until upstream was using gstreamer 1.x | Dec 28 16:55 |
| MinceR | doesn't it support the cisco blob yet? | Dec 28 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know. The upstream build of Firefox 26 plays h264. | Dec 28 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | They just use the system gstreamer. | Dec 28 16:55 |
| DaemonFC | The Fedora build of Firefox is just faster and more secure. | Dec 28 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | Upstream builds theirs with an old gcc, without the security options turned on, and on a RHEL clone, with static linked libraries. | Dec 28 16:56 |
| DaemonFC | It's like proprietary software companies would distribute software. | Dec 28 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | It works, but Fedora is always building Firefox better than upstream does. | Dec 28 16:57 |
| MinceR | https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/970674 | Dec 28 16:57 |
| DaemonFC | It is better integrated into the system. It uses shared libraries and the latest gcc, with all of the security options of gcc turned on. | Dec 28 16:57 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | support.mozilla.org | Firefox support for Windows Phone 8 | Firefox Support Forum | Mozilla Support [ http://ur1.ca/g9xyx ] | Dec 28 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | And it's sandboxed with selinux. | Dec 28 16:58 |
| MinceR | free software is banned from m$'s overpriced paperweights | Dec 28 16:58 |
| MinceR | (and iirc it's also banned from crApple's randomly set timebombs) | Dec 28 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'll just use Android until the next cell phone upgrade. | Dec 28 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | Then I'll see if I can get a Firefox Phone. | Dec 28 16:58 |
| DaemonFC | For now, Android is the best option available. | Dec 28 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | I do like the overall design goal of Firefox Phone better. | Dec 28 16:59 |
| MinceR | i hope Tizen succeeds in some meaningful way | Dec 28 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | Android is not the best option for a mobile OS, it's just the only option. | Dec 28 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 28 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, really, what else are you going to choose? Windows? iOS? | Dec 28 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | Garbage, totally proprietary, locking out competing software.... | Dec 28 17:00 |
| DaemonFC | Those aren't really an option for me. | Dec 28 17:00 |
| MinceR | well, it's the only smartphone OS that isn't dead, apparently | Dec 28 17:01 |
| DaemonFC | Android? | Dec 28 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | iOS is still used. It's in decline though. | Dec 28 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the people using it are not buying new devices, they just still have an iPhone 4 or something that they bought years ago. | Dec 28 17:02 |
| DaemonFC | More and more of the newly activated devices are Android. | Dec 28 17:03 |
| MinceR | android | Dec 28 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | So, I think that as time goes on, and those old iPhones fail, more people will migrate to Android. | Dec 28 17:03 |
| MinceR | hypeOS is not a smartphone OS. | Dec 28 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | People are still using them because they already paid for them and they still work. | Dec 28 17:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's the same reason Windows XP is still around, even though Windows 8/8.1 are out and people aren't buying it. | Dec 28 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | There's still a lot of Windows XP machines out there that people have already paid for, that work "well enough". | Dec 28 17:04 |
| DaemonFC | So, when those fail, they buy non-Windows devices, and Windows goes into decline. | Dec 28 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | We're dealing with legacy constipation right now. | Dec 28 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 28 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | with Windows XP and old iPhones. | Dec 28 17:05 |
| DaemonFC | Whatever people choose today is something they'll still be using in 4-5 years until it just doesn't work anymore. | Dec 28 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | So, Apple's decline will be much like the decline of Internet Explorer. | Dec 28 17:06 |
| MinceR | in that case, i wonder what shenanigans will crApple try to force us to use their crap. | Dec 28 17:07 |
| DaemonFC | It's already starting, MinceR. | Dec 28 17:07 |
| MinceR | i'm guessing they'll try to buy and ruin all the remaining free software projects after CUPS. | Dec 28 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | They launched the iPhone 5c, which is garbage at a price point that Walmart shoppers can afford. | Dec 28 17:08 |
| MinceR | it's still massively overpriced | Dec 28 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | Then they funded a promotion that actually paid people to take them. | Dec 28 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | They marked them down to $49 with a 2 year contract, and then Apple themselves funded the $75 gift card you got for Walmart if you bought one. | Dec 28 17:09 |
| MinceR | it still costs a magnitude more than an entry-level smartphone | Dec 28 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | So they were paying people $26 to take the phone. | Dec 28 17:09 |
| MinceR | even though it's inferior to all of them in every way | Dec 28 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | Well, if you're in the budget phone market right now, the Moto G is the thing to get. | Dec 28 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | They're usually free with a contract, or $199 unlocked. | Dec 28 17:10 |
| MinceR | i think telcos are giving smartphones away "free" now | Dec 28 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | And they're the best dub-$200 phone on the market right now | Dec 28 17:10 |
| MinceR | (of course, on the long run, it's going to cost the customer plenty) | Dec 28 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. Sprint has the best deal. | Dec 28 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | $80 a month for unlimited everything. | Dec 28 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | That's not bad for a contract phone. | Dec 28 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | AT&T with 1 GB of monthly data starts at $110. | Dec 28 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | Then each GB you go over is $15, or you can add data to the plan for $10 per GB per month. | Dec 28 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | So they'd charge someone like me a minimum of $140-150 for the way I use my Sprint phone. | Dec 28 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | And Sprint's network is pretty damned good for what you're paying. | Dec 28 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | It might not be quite as good as the others, but it's damned close, and it's basically half price. | Dec 28 17:11 |
| DaemonFC | I get 4GLTE in most areas, and it's FAST. | Dec 28 17:12 |
| MinceR | so do i | Dec 28 17:12 |
| MinceR | well, not sure if it's 'most areas' yet | Dec 28 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I figure that if their network is 90% as good for half the price, that it's a good deal in the end. | Dec 28 17:12 |
| MinceR | but it's still a surprise after my telco said they aren't supporting LTE on phones at all. | Dec 28 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | And they're still upgrading areas to LTE. | Dec 28 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | Pretty quickly... | Dec 28 17:12 |
| MinceR | and one day it just started letting me use LTE. | Dec 28 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | I had 4G LTE for most of our trip to Ohio a few weeks ago. | Dec 28 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | Even out in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by a wind farm. | Dec 28 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 28 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | That was impressive. | Dec 28 17:13 |
| MinceR | funny enough, i noticed that i got LTE service first on a mountain in budapest. | Dec 28 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint supports LTE, WiMax, and 3G networks. | Dec 28 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | on all of their new phones, at least. | Dec 28 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | And they use all three standards on their network. It's kind of a mess. | Dec 28 17:13 |
| DaemonFC | But it works, so what the hell? :) | Dec 28 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen my phone use LTE, WiMax, and 3G on Sprint towers. | Dec 28 17:14 |
| MinceR | i didn't know phones could use WiMax | Dec 28 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | LTE and WiMax are both very fast. 3G isn't terrible. | Dec 28 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. Sprint started out with WiMax, and then switched over to LTE. | Dec 28 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | So there's still some areas where you get WiMax because it's what they were building before they changed their minds. | Dec 28 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | It works, and they've already paid for it, so they're leaving it alone. | Dec 28 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 28 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | So their phones support LTE and WiMax. | Dec 28 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | The user doesn't really need to care. | Dec 28 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | They're both very fast. | Dec 28 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | It's like when 56K modems were released, and you had competing standards. | Dec 28 17:16 |
| MinceR | i don't think my phone supports WiMAX. | Dec 28 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | ISPs would support K56Flex, V.90, and X2 | Dec 28 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | So, the modems for your PC just supported all of them, and then you had 56K no matter which standard your ISP supported. | Dec 28 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | My ISP at the time supported K56Flex on one of their local numbers, and v.90 on the other one. | Dec 28 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | I dialed into the K56Flex until the V.90 number was available. | Dec 28 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Most don't. | Dec 28 17:18 |
| MinceR | i don't know which ones my modem supported | Dec 28 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | The LG G2 only supports WiMax if you buy it from Sprint. | Dec 28 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone else that uses those towers gets 3G. | Dec 28 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | Like, customers of other companies that are roaming on a Sprint tower, or people that bought unlocked phones. | Dec 28 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | My phone also supports text and phone calls over wifi. | Dec 28 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | So if I'm in a restaurant and can't get a signal, I can hop onto their free wifi and make calls and texts over that. | Dec 28 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | That feature is mostly for people on other carriers though, that want to save their minutes. | Dec 28 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | But I have unlimited minutes, so there's no reason to do that unless I can't get a signal. | Dec 28 17:21 |
| Sosumi | I'll tell you the truth | Dec 28 17:25 |
| Sosumi | I haven't seen and iphone past the 4s | Dec 28 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | There's cheaper ways to get unlimited, but they do nasty things to you. | Dec 28 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | Like Straight Talk for $45 a month, but you get second rate phones and third rate service. | Dec 28 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | They don't actually want to turn around and pay the other carriers for unlimited, so they throttle you after 2.5 GB and then you're at 2G speed for the rest of the month. | Dec 28 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | And the data coverage is spotty, so Tim has to connect to my wifi or his data barely even works at my apartment, even though he's using the same tower I am. | Dec 28 17:27 |
| Sosumi | samsung phones happen to be the norm around here | Dec 28 17:27 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: they're all the same | Dec 28 17:27 |
| MinceR | i mean, hypePhones | Dec 28 17:28 |
| Sosumi | and talking of samsung, one of the major retailers has 20% discount on all note 3 and galaxy s4 | Dec 28 17:28 |
| Sosumi | to the end of the year | Dec 28 17:28 |
| Sosumi | http://www.fnac.pt/n284571/Precos-Minimos/Tecnologia/Smartphones-Samsung#bl=HGTELECblo1 | Dec 28 17:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | ( status 400 @ http://www.fnac.pt/n284571/Precos-Minimos/Tecnologia/Smartphones-Samsung#bl=HGTELECblo1 ) | Dec 28 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | If you use a lot of data, Smart Talk disconnects your service and bans your phone. | Dec 28 17:28 |
| DaemonFC | So you can't re-activate that phone, even though you paid $300 for the phone! | Dec 28 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | So it's not unlimited. There's a limit, they just don't tell you what it is. | Dec 28 17:29 |
| MinceR | that's not very Smart | Dec 28 17:29 |
| MinceR | for some reason, ISPs seem to be fond of secret limits | Dec 28 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. They say unlimited, then in the fine print, they say they reserve the right to throw you off if you use it "excessively". | Dec 28 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, there's no definition of excessive, so you don't know what that means. | Dec 28 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast says that the "normal" usage of their customers is only like 5-6 GB a month. I don't know what these people are doing, but I use that in two or three days. | Dec 28 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | Even watching a few Youtube videos per day, checking email, and browsing will use more than 5-6 GB a month. | Dec 28 17:35 |
| MinceR | the telcos here like to define a set of protocols/services they happen to like | Dec 28 17:36 |
| MinceR | and they punish you for using anything else | Dec 28 17:36 |
| MinceR | that's why i haven't switched packages for a long time | Dec 28 17:36 |
| MinceR | i don't know which one would be a less of a pain in the ass, if any of them would be | Dec 28 17:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3458229 | Dec 28 17:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rephrasing of the previous tweet: carriers were so eager to get their bribes from #cia that they made their customers insecure by design | Dec 28 17:45 |
| schestowitz | "Gotchya. I saw the reference to "prior tweet" which made me kind of wonder. The brevity and volume of your posts has me tending to mute you. My general preference is for lower volume and higher relevance, and your content tends to dominate my stream otherwise." | Dec 28 17:45 |
| schestowitz | I have posted short items in identica since 2009 and then expanded in my sites. It's mostly about the links really. Long posts I compose separately. | Dec 28 17:46 |
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| Sosumi | not good for the mactards, | Dec 28 18:30 |
| Sosumi | crossfired d700 perform as good as a single gtx680 on battlefield 4 maxed at 4k | Dec 28 18:31 |
| Sosumi | the things I've been mentioning about the PSU have probably been confirmed | Dec 28 18:34 |
| Sosumi | probably just there isn't enough juice to power the thing | Dec 28 18:35 |
| oiaohm | Sosumi: exactly how is it not good for mactards. | Dec 28 18:36 |
| oiaohm | Sosumi: they have lived with under powered video cards for so long now so what is the difference to them. | Dec 28 18:37 |
| Sosumi | because now they have even less arguments against me, at least | Dec 28 18:37 |
| Sosumi | in the flame wars with my colleagues | Dec 28 18:37 |
| Sosumi | and some teachers | Dec 28 18:38 |
| MinceR | it has the logo on it, isn't that enough for them? | Dec 28 18:43 |
| MinceR | also, doesn't the RDF make them believe they've won all the arguments? | Dec 28 18:44 |
| Sosumi | they could always put a sticker or laser engrave it on some third party box | Dec 28 18:44 |
| Sosumi | RDF? | Dec 28 18:44 |
| MinceR | Reality Distortion Field | Dec 28 18:44 |
| Sosumi | don't worry, I can create a dirac sea of infinite negativity that will void all kinds of RDFs | Dec 28 18:47 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 28 18:48 |
| Sosumi | aside, | Dec 28 19:05 |
| Sosumi | gnu octave finally has a GUI | Dec 28 19:05 |
| Sosumi | officially that is | Dec 28 19:13 |
| Sosumi | I remember older projects like qt octave and so on | Dec 28 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | shared Star Trek: Voyager's photo. | Dec 28 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to have to vote for Captain Janeway. In the future, a female starship captain from Indiana fights to get her crew home when they become stranded in the Delta Quadrant, over 70 years from Earth at maximum warp. Sure, it's fiction, but it's inspiring. | Dec 28 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Bonus: Along the way, she manages to rip the Borg a new one. That alone should get your vote! | Dec 28 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | Despicable Me 2: | Dec 28 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Little girl (to Gru): "Why are you so fat?" | Dec 28 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Gru: "Because my house is made of candy. And sometimes, I eat instead of facing my problems." | Dec 28 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | I can relate. Who's up for Taco Bell? | Dec 28 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Spotify Radio is now free on Android. | Dec 28 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | gives me something to listen to while I'm driving. :) | Dec 28 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Last.FM is no longer available in the United States. | Dec 28 21:17 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 28 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME Web tells websites you're using Mac OS. | Dec 28 22:11 |
| DaemonFC | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Intel Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/538.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/538.1 Epiphany/3.10.2 | Dec 28 22:11 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC: yep poor designed website id would also say Safari user. | Dec 28 22:12 |
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| amarsh04 | http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-29/david-hicks-says-government-knew-he-would-not-get-fair-trial/5177504 | Dec 28 23:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.abc.net.au | Solicitor says documents show government knew former Guantanamo Bay detainee David Hicks would not get fair trial - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) [ http://ur1.ca/g9zlc ] | Dec 28 23:04 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: Really David Hicks trained with a overseas army without permission. Australia by international law could have voided his citisenship | Dec 28 23:12 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: so what is the worry about fair trial he was not infact due anything. | Dec 28 23:12 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_nationality_law#Service_in_the_armed_forces_of_an_enemy_country | Dec 29 00:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Australian nationality law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/g9zxv ] | Dec 29 00:27 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: that is a key point techically Australia can if so chooses kick David Hicks out. | Dec 29 00:28 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: allowing Hicks to be punished in Guantanamo Bay was mercy. | Dec 29 00:28 |
| oiaohm | amarsh04: and Australian cit law is retrospective. | Dec 29 00:30 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459345 | Dec 29 04:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Facebook asked me to add my phone number or credit card for verification. Gave them the finger and deleted my account." -Theatre X | Dec 29 04:32 |
| schestowitz | "I gave them both fingers months ago! Google and mocrosoft too!" | Dec 29 04:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459340 | Dec 29 04:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: David Blunkett calls for satirical TV shows such as Mock the Week to be reclassified as 'current affairs' http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/we-need-to-watch-that-david-blunkett-calls-for-satirical-tv-shows-such-as-mock-the-week-to-be-reclassified-as-current-affairs-9027372.html censor? | Dec 29 04:58 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, censorship. The people doing satire do better research than most current affairs shows. This guy is barking up the wrong tree, but it's intentional. You won't be able to find out anymore because the UK is censoring your internet too." | Dec 29 04:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.independent.co.uk | 'We need to watch that': David Blunkett calls for satirical TV shows such as Mock the Week to be reclassified as 'current affairs' - News - TV & Radio - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/ga0uz ] | Dec 29 04:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459287 | Dec 29 04:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Worst spokesperson ever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Psaki I hope she stays, she makes her employer look stupid beyond belief | Dec 29 04:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> en.wikipedia.org | Jen Psaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ga0v1 ] | Dec 29 04:59 |
| schestowitz | "Have I missed something? She looks good on paper, good schools and an amazingly rapid rise through responsible positions." | Dec 29 04:59 |
| schestowitz | She is reading scripts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFIVVmXE-g my wife and I had a field day watch it yesterday | Dec 29 04:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | 'US citizen has no right to free speech?' State Dept spokesperson grilled over Snowden - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ga0v5 ] | Dec 29 05:00 |
| schestowitz | *watching | Dec 29 05:00 |
| schestowitz | "Tyrants always reward a few flunkies. Discontent grows as they push their luck by beggaring the rest of us." | Dec 29 05:00 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459295 | Dec 29 05:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Academics Who Defend Wall St. Reap Reward http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/28/business/academics-who-defend-wall-st-reap-reward.html?ref=business implicit purchasing of consent. #occupyws | Dec 29 05:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/ga0up ] | Dec 29 05:01 |
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| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> @glynmoody "the only people who retain any hope of secure | Dec 29 06:09 |
| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> communications are geeks who understand | Dec 29 06:09 |
| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> #cryptography and use #opensource software." - | Dec 29 06:09 |
| schestowitz | [11:07] <s-157> ibid. | Dec 29 06:09 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/417255775732379648 | Dec 29 06:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @fcassia: @schestowitz I was thinking hardware (routers, modems, and the like) | Dec 29 06:31 |
| schestowitz | There are ways of verification. My jobs involves this. It's a chain of trust. | Dec 29 06:31 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3460170 | Dec 29 11:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Does anyone really believe that the #cia wouldn't have 'disappeared' (killed) #snowden if CIA knew what he was up up? | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | The thing is the actions always override what is being said | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | That actions so far ......... well the NSA is still working ...... the security is being tightened up ........ but for who's benefits. | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | How do you get the people to support a massive lock down on the internet where it is so secure - even the hackers cannot get back into it ...... | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Then you change the way it is run and start charging for everything - using the security to lock people out ........... | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | We will see ........ but Snowden so far seems like the classic film style double agent ....... you give them so much that is all interesting and obvious ......... but the things the people really want to know about ........... how to keep them in suspense ...... | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | We are working on some new information and when its all sorted out we will feed you it ........... | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Thing with the whistleblowers of the past ........ | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | The information is given up front to make sure everyone is aware of what is going on ............ | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | With Snowden ...... its like leading a donkey with a carrot ........ | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Just depends where we are heading with all of this ....... | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Thinking of the case with Shane Todd ....... if the NSA were so good they would know everything about him and his last calls on his mobile and his last emails on his computer. | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Yet ............ dead end ........... and the information seems so much like it should be obvious what happened to him. | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | and if it can happen to Shane Todd ........ then as you say why not with Snowden ......... | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Yet he gets full Media attention where others in the past get what ....... hidden away ..... and distorted stories ........ even a film about Assange to make him out to be something else. | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Manning is the only one ....... they did not kill him ...... well maybe psychologically ......... | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | He is now a girl locked up for 35 years ....... whether he really wants to be called a girl or not - who knows - but they destroyed him ......... in another way. | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Aaron Schwartz .... mmm | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Seems its bad business nowadays to be more intelligent than the government ...... this decade will be the time in History where they went after the clever people in society that knew how to use computing and data from it to good effect. | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Who else has left the USA ..... due to pressure ...... | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Who fears for their life ..... maybe Snowden does - but his safeguard was that he already put the information out somewhere ( that is what they maybe need before they do anything rash ) if it is all for real .......... | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Still have doubts on this one ....... but I do support whatever it is he is doing .......... I think ........ ? | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | If the NSA was for the good of the people they would have let out all they have on Shane Todd | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Its things like that - that make you wonder what they do know. | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 11:24 |
| schestowitz | "Snowden is a hired man. He's telling us what they want us to know." | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | "Another angle is despite outrage, they handed him the info in order to sneak in even more awful secret legislation to hide their "sensitive" operations. The public outrage is the opposite of the internal government outrage: they can use this leak from a low level employee to lock their real dirty laundry even deeper and tighter." | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | The things I am seeing are to do with other government officials ..... basically gets them all to tighten up their own security. ( not such a bad thing ) | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Normal peoples own perceptions ......... doubt anything has really changed ... | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Has one Law been passed to protect people from UN-warrented snooping ? | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Law+been+passed+to+protect+people+from+UN-warrented+snooping&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&gws_rd=cr& | Dec 29 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.co.uk | Law been passed to protect people from UN-warrented snooping - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/ga256 ] | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Yet nothing appears for protecting the people ......... | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Lets see what laws are being passed to detain the people ......... | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Law+been+passed+to+protect+people+from+UN-warrented+snooping&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk&gws_rd=cr&ei=eRzAUoyOBovY0QW_4YDwDA#channel=fs&gl=uk&q=law+been+passed+to+detain+us+citizens | Dec 29 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.google.co.uk | Law been passed to protect people from UN-warrented snooping - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/ga258 ] | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Oh look loads of action there ....... | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 29 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Snowden is doing huge damage to many in Power, so to suggest he serves those in Power makes no sense at all. Currently, the Russian and Chinese are gaining from it, maybe central Europe also | Dec 29 11:26 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3459929 | Dec 29 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## **Guy Debord** | Dec 29 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by ramil_rodaje@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_27885bfd0d6c0507b780.png | Dec 29 11:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by ramil_rodaje@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_27885bfd0d6c0507b780.png | Dec 29 11:26 |
| schestowitz | "The irony is arresting!" | Dec 29 11:27 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 29 11:29 |
| MinceR | j0 | Dec 29 11:29 |
| sebsebseb | 2014 the year of MinceR | Dec 29 11:29 |
| MinceR | isn't that a bit early to announce? | Dec 29 11:30 |
| sebsebseb | maybe | Dec 29 11:30 |
| iophk | http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/12/29/toronto_police_officer_strips_naked_hundreds_of_people.html | Dec 29 11:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.thestar.com | Toronto police officer strips naked “hundreds” of people | Toronto Star [ http://ur1.ca/ga26z ] | Dec 29 11:33 |
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| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/why-the-iron-maiden-playing-for-pirates-error-is-such-a-disappointment-131229/ | Dec 29 12:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Why the Iron Maiden ‘Playing for Pirates’ Error is Such a Disappointment | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/ga2gq ] | Dec 29 12:37 |
| MinceR | http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3221#comic | Dec 29 12:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal [ http://ur1.ca/ga2j0 ] | Dec 29 12:55 |
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| DaemonFC | about a minute ago · Edited | Dec 29 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | Some hackers decided to try to piece together a PC equivalent to Apple's new $10,000 Mac Pro, and ended up with a bill of about $11,500. There were a few problems that I see with this. | Dec 29 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | 1. They did not use the lowest-price sources for the PC hardware that they bought. | Dec 29 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | 2. They threw in a license for an unnecessary copy of Windows 8.1 Professional, which added $200. They could have used GNU/Linux for free. | Dec 29 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | 3. Although the graphics cards are the same AMD FirePro model numbers, the one in the Mac Pro is not nearly as fast as the PC version. Apple had to slow down the clock speeds of the graphics processing core, and the memory, in order to cram it into that case without a big heatsink or fan. So, the OEM PC part is much, much, better. | Dec 29 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | 4. Xeon processors are a waste of money, and so is ECC RAM. The only difference between a Xeon processor and its Core i7 brethren is that Xeon supports ECC RAM and Core i7 doesn't. They could have knocked off several hundred more dollars from the PC if they used an i7 and non-ECC RAM. | Dec 29 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | Apple fans are under the misguided impression that Xeons are "magical performance unicorns", and they are not. | Dec 29 14:41 |
| DaemonFC | There's probably more, but I think you could build a system that kicks the $10,000 Mac Pro in the balls for $8,500 or less. | Dec 29 14:41 |
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| DaemonFC | edited: | Dec 29 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | I would use an ASUS or XFX model of FirePro card, myself, if I could afford it. | Dec 29 14:43 |
| DaemonFC | The truth is that the FirePro is not that much better than a fast Radeon HD, but the FirePro is more expensive. So, they could save hundreds buying a Radeon HD instead. The biggest difference between FirePro and Radeon HD is that the proprietary driver is "certified" to run "professional" software, like AutoCAD. The RadeonHD will do it too, but AMD doesn't specifically support that use case. | Dec 29 14:43 |
| Sosumi | no point in using Xeon if you don't use two or more of them | Dec 29 14:51 |
| Sosumi | also, the ati gpus on the trashcan are underclock | Dec 29 14:52 |
| Sosumi | they run at 600 mhz with a boost to 800 MHz when it's possible | Dec 29 14:52 |
| DaemonFC | 3 minutes ago · Edited | Dec 29 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | Another problem with Apple is that they write their own graphics drivers for Mac OS X. They don't use drivers from Nvidia or AMD. Apple's graphics drivers have been proven to be slower and less OpenGL compliant than the vendor drivers on Windows or GNU/Linux, time after time. | Dec 29 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | To tell you what kind of awful drivers come from Apple, Valve tried to port Steam to Mac OS X in 2006, and said that they couldn't, because Apple's OpenGL implementation did not support Occlusion Query. An OpenGL driver that doesn't have Occlusion Query is like a car that is missing a transmission. I mean, it's some pretty basic functionality that almost every actual OpenGL program is going to require. They do now. In fact, Apple claims that | Dec 29 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | they support OpenGL 4.0. | Dec 29 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, the driver can just lie. It doesn't mean that they implemented everything that the standard calls for, or that they implemented it correctly. And, the current standard is OpenGL 4.4. | Dec 29 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | When you lie to a program, it will start and run, and work until the time comes to use a feature that you claim to have, and don't, and then the program will crash. | Dec 29 14:53 |
| DaemonFC | Or, if you've implemented it wrong, it could just behave in some unexpected way. | Dec 29 14:53 |
| Sosumi | also, there's no distintion between "pro" and "normal" gpu drivers on osx | Dec 29 14:54 |
| Sosumi | and at most "pro" cards only feature more vram | Dec 29 14:54 |
| Sosumi | nothing more | Dec 29 14:54 |
| Sosumi | also, the cards on the trashcan don't have ecc | Dec 29 14:54 |
| Sosumi | even through the ecc feature on the normal firepro cards is virtualized through the memory controller | Dec 29 14:55 |
| Sosumi | that feature is not present on the trashcan cards | Dec 29 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Dec 29 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | Even Nvidia and AMD get things wrong sometimes, but, unlike Apple, they respond to developers by fixing the bugs and getting a new graphics driver update out. Sometimes, it takes them less than a week to patch their driver. | Dec 29 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | With Apple, you have to wait months, if they ever fix it at all. | Dec 29 14:55 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, That's not really the case. | Dec 29 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen consumer level graphics hardware with 2-3 GB of fast video RAM. | Dec 29 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | and I haven't even looked in a while | Dec 29 14:56 |
| Sosumi | but those are not reference designs | Dec 29 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | most programs run fine with 1 GB | Dec 29 14:56 |
| DaemonFC | or less | Dec 29 14:56 |
| Sosumi | crapple only used reference designs on their cards | Dec 29 14:57 |
| Sosumi | with the option of a reference workstation grade card, that used the same driver of the gaming grade card, but with the benefit of more vram | Dec 29 14:58 |
| Sosumi | also the point of having more ram on the card is for cuda and opencl offloading | Dec 29 14:58 |
| Sosumi | for just running programs and no gaming, even 128MB would be anough | Dec 29 14:59 |
| Sosumi | *enough | Dec 29 14:59 |
| DaemonFC | Well, to be honest, I think we've long since passed the point where computers are "fast enough" for everything a typical user does. | Dec 29 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that the horrible PC sales are entirely the fault of Windows 8. | Dec 29 15:00 |
| Sosumi | it has entered into the law of diminished returns | Dec 29 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | It's one of the larger reasons, but people are on a tight budget and realizing that what they have is working well. | Dec 29 15:00 |
| DaemonFC | So, why spend more money to replace things that work? | Dec 29 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I'm still very pleased with my Phenom II X4. | Dec 29 15:01 |
| Sosumi | again, the law of diminished returns for what the users are doing | Dec 29 15:01 |
| DaemonFC | Right, so it's not the fastest processor out there, but it's reasonably fast, and it can offload additional threads between four cores. | Dec 29 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. You can play an MP3 file on a 486. | Dec 29 15:02 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of things you can get done on some shockingly old hardware. | Dec 29 15:03 |
| Sosumi | the computer as a normal box that sits under your desk is dead for the normal user | Dec 29 15:03 |
| DaemonFC | These tablets and phones don't have the specs of a PC, so software developers are starting to go back and look for ways to trim down their resource requirements again. | Dec 29 15:04 |
| DaemonFC | That gives your PC a second wind. | Dec 29 15:04 |
| Sosumi | and despite everything, more and more are reliquishing their data into cloud services | Dec 29 15:04 |
| Sosumi | I've seen ppl saying that the xbox one with a keyboard connected was enough | Dec 29 15:04 |
| Sosumi | as they could do everything through the built in browser | Dec 29 15:05 |
| Sosumi | office in the cloud, google services, etc | Dec 29 15:05 |
| Sosumi | you know the drill | Dec 29 15:05 |
| DaemonFC | I would use xfce, but, you know how that stuff goes. | Dec 29 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | They're a small project in a big world. There are certain things that don't integrate well, or are missing. Distributions tend to plug the gaps by including GNOME software. | Dec 29 15:06 |
| DaemonFC | The XBOX One has some major problems. | Dec 29 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's $100 more expensive than the Playstation 4, and much, much, slower. | Dec 29 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | The only web browser you can use is Internet Explorer. | Dec 29 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | etc. | Dec 29 15:09 |
| DaemonFC | They really should have designed a much more ambitious console. | Dec 29 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | The difference in performance between XBOX 360 and PS3 wasn't huge. | Dec 29 15:10 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen some benchmarks that suggest that the PS4 could be 50% faster than XBOX One in some cases | Dec 29 15:10 |
| Sosumi | yes, but that's a thing that only matters to ppl like you and me | Dec 29 15:21 |
| Sosumi | the average joe doesn't care | Dec 29 15:21 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/windows-8-x-growth-flatlines-internet-explorer-11-makes-a-splash/ | Dec 29 15:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Windows 8.x growth flatlines, Internet Explorer 11 makes a splash | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ga2zn ] | Dec 29 15:28 |
| Sosumi | IE is king | Dec 29 15:28 |
| Sosumi | I think that says all about the average Joe/Jane | Dec 29 15:28 |
| Sosumi | and again the PC is dead, the future, for the average user, is going to be cloud services integrated with some universal AI for some interactive assistance | Dec 29 15:32 |
| Sosumi | and that's it | Dec 29 15:32 |
| Sosumi | the kind of ppl that run their big boxes'll continue to be the usual niche | Dec 29 15:33 |
| Sosumi | with hardcore gamers, professionals and conscious users | Dec 29 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | It bothers me. | Dec 29 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | I don't want a web browser that won't let me block ads, for starters. | Dec 29 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | IE doesn't let you do that. | Dec 29 15:34 |
| MinceR | the PC will be better off with the average user off it | Dec 29 15:34 |
| MinceR | that is, if there will be a PC | Dec 29 15:35 |
| Sosumi | no idea... I haven't used IE since I was on 6th grade back in 2001 or 2002 | Dec 29 15:35 |
| MinceR | uefi is destroying it, turning it into a useless appliance. | Dec 29 15:35 |
| Sosumi | uefi was necessary to address 4TB more | Dec 29 15:35 |
| Sosumi | secure boot was the unecessary part | Dec 29 15:35 |
| Sosumi | it's useless | Dec 29 15:36 |
| MinceR | restricted boot was not necessary to address 4TB or more | Dec 29 15:36 |
| MinceR | and yet it's what they're pushing. | Dec 29 15:36 |
| Sosumi | same for the TPI module | Dec 29 15:36 |
| Sosumi | and the whole trusted computing thing | Dec 29 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | I never really used IE. When I used Windows, I would use it sometimes after a major update, just out of curiosity. | Dec 29 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | Then I'd go back to using Mozilla Application Suite or Opera. | Dec 29 15:38 |
| MinceR | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/27/the-most-kafkaesque-paragraph-from-todays-nsa-ruling/ | Dec 29 15:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.washingtonpost.com | The most Kafkaesque paragraph from today’s NSA ruling [ http://ur1.ca/ga32n ] | Dec 29 15:51 |
| Sosumi | that was on school computers | Dec 29 15:53 |
| Sosumi | I used netscape on mine at home | Dec 29 15:53 |
| Sosumi | your biggest fear at moment should be the impossibility of disabling secure boot on low end to mid range hardware | Dec 29 15:55 |
| Sosumi | for high end hardware there'll always be that option | Dec 29 15:55 |
| Sosumi | specially on workstation grade stuff | Dec 29 15:56 |
| Sosumi | but that is locking gnu/linux, BSD and other OSs behind a paywall | Dec 29 15:56 |
| Sosumi | while the challenge for the next year is to either do away with secure boot or let the users sign their own keys | Dec 29 15:59 |
| Sosumi | another challenge is to demand computers without the OS, neither with windows nor with redhat (hp, dell) | Dec 29 16:01 |
| Sosumi | also, the module is called TPM and not TPI | Dec 29 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | I'm looking into taking out a few of next month's bills. | Dec 29 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | Give myself a head of steam going into January. :) | Dec 29 16:05 |
| Sosumi | that's easy | Dec 29 16:09 |
| Sosumi | apply for a ton of credit cards in multiple banks | Dec 29 16:10 |
| Sosumi | even foreign ones | Dec 29 16:10 |
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| Sosumi | and then max the withdraw count on them | Dec 29 16:10 |
| Sosumi | after that, run away to some latin american country | Dec 29 16:11 |
| Sosumi | or manilla or russia or hong knog | Dec 29 16:11 |
| Sosumi | *hong kong | Dec 29 16:11 |
| Sosumi | some country with no extradition to the US should be ok | Dec 29 16:12 |
| Sosumi | the city of london is also okeish for financial criminals, but on this case you'll actually be pulling a hat trick on the banksters | Dec 29 16:13 |
| Sosumi | so avoid it | Dec 29 16:13 |
| Sosumi | china also has those small one cabin hotels, | Dec 29 16:14 |
| Sosumi | if you're on the run with no luggage other than some clothes and a laptop | Dec 29 16:14 |
| MinceR | then why pay the bills at all? | Dec 29 16:15 |
| Sosumi | those are excellent | Dec 29 16:15 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 29 16:15 |
| Sosumi | that was the point | Dec 29 16:15 |
| Sosumi | not paying them | Dec 29 16:15 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 29 16:15 |
| Sosumi | aaron swartz should have done that | Dec 29 16:17 |
| Sosumi | instead of staying to become a martyr | Dec 29 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | I make a payment on my credit card every day. | Dec 29 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | I try to keep the balance as low as possible. | Dec 29 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | That way I never pay interest, and they're paying me about $12 a month to use the card. | Dec 29 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's not much, but $144 a year isn't nothing. :) | Dec 29 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | It's easy money. You don't have to do anything for it other than use their card instead of the debit card. | Dec 29 16:27 |
| DaemonFC | So, basically, my credit card rewards are enough to pay my health insurance deductible for the year. | Dec 29 16:28 |
| Sosumi | I only use my parents credit card to pay for stuff that can't be payed in cash | Dec 29 16:30 |
| Sosumi | and that is online stuff | Dec 29 16:30 |
| Sosumi | but it's usually small stuff, I doubt it's even enough to pay for the card itself | Dec 29 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | I use it everywhere. | Dec 29 16:32 |
| Sosumi | I use cash | Dec 29 16:33 |
| Sosumi | cash when possible | Dec 29 16:33 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3460093 | Dec 29 17:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Which will be the big economies in 15 years? It's not a done deal http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/29/worlds-largest-economies-and-their-future #uk #eu #china #russia | Dec 29 17:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Which will be the big economies in 15 years? It's not a done deal | Will Hutton | Comment is free | The Observer [ http://ur1.ca/ga3nu ] | Dec 29 17:10 |
| schestowitz | "Brazil. Maybe Australia. ... ... ... If there's much of any 'economy' to report on in 15 years. I'm expecting collapse." | Dec 29 17:10 |
| DaemonFC | I posted this on A&E's wall: | Dec 29 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | Don't just delete A&E from your channel line up. Ditch cable TV altogether and save yourself thousands of dollars per year. I ditched my cable TV several years ago, because the line up is 99% garbage. While A&E is letting the American Taliban have a reality show, where the "patriarch" is using crude, derogatory, indecent, and impudent language to describe human beings and body parts, and recommending that you marry and have sex with 15 year | Dec 29 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | old girls, the Science Channel dropped Professor Brian Cox. What a waste. A&E is partially to blame for the vast intellectual wasteland that is cable TV. | Dec 29 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's clear that the peckerheads that run A&E will let him get away with saying anything. Why don't they just make a reality show about the Taliban. I'm sure that you'll walk away with much the same experience as watching Duck Dynasty. | Dec 29 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | Martin Van Der Harst Too bad you used a clip that was edited (partial, not full context) | Dec 29 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | Me: I think it's pretty clear that he said what he meant. In those backwards right-wing crazy states like Kentucky, the age of consent is still only 14. I don't think that's right. Maybe the Fundamentalist Christians that homeskewl their children want to marry them off at age 14, so they can start having babies, but it's a disgusting thing to do. | Dec 29 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | What part of "you can't wait until they turn 20, you've got to marry them at age 15 or 16" could be taken any other way than at face value? | Dec 29 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, this "gem" came from the guy that waited 50 years to give his wife a wedding ring and said that the way to keep your wife is to bring home dead squirrels, so yeah. You can take the trash out of the trailer, but you can't take the trash out of the trash, apparently... People watch this stuff? Garbage in, garbage out. | Dec 29 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | shared Americans Against The Republican Party's photo. | Dec 29 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/s526x395/1004809_696988640323004_1059421146_n.png | Dec 29 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | 've never been fond of tax exemption for a "church" (the Catholic one) that accumulates gold, diamonds, and real estate worth billions of dollars, while many millions of people are homeless and hungry. | Dec 29 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks to the religious tax exemption, we're also subsidizing the Church of Scientology. In other words, if you're a tax payer, you just bought them their "Religious Technology Training Center" in Clearwater, Florida. I understand that they have a bottomless pit and a time machine though. At least, they claim they do. I plan on breaking in and going back in time to kill Hitler. Who's with me? | Dec 29 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | We can take him back to 2013 and throw him in the bottomless pit. | Dec 29 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Dec 29 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, come on. What's a few body thetans among friends? Am I right? | Dec 29 17:27 |
| DaemonFC | Martin Van Der Harst When I click the link, I get a liberal hatched job story, with a video. | Dec 29 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | The video does not include the full quote, You need to check with mom and dad about that, of course." | Dec 29 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | Me: So, you need to have permission from their mom and dad before you have sex with their.....fifteen year old child.... Well, that makes being a pedophile totally acceptable then! /sarcasm A&E: The Pedophile Network. | Dec 29 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's clear that the fundies want men to marry 15 year old girls, because they are young and naive, and will develop no skills or coping mechanisms for living on their own, and will be more likely to depend on the predator for basic needs for the rest of their life. | Dec 29 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | I've been trolling A&E's facebook wall. | Dec 29 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | I think I've called them everything in the book, including pedophile enablers. | Dec 29 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, I totally understand that a church needs to bring in enough money to keep the lights on, the building maintained, and to pay the pastor/priest a stipend, but some of these organized religions are just awful. They go way beyond that. | Dec 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Televangelism hasn't changed much since the Jim Bakker scandal. He was using the money he brought in to buy all kinds of extravagant things, including an air conditioned dog house for his dogs. They even paid hotel room service to bring them $300 worth of freshly baked cinnamon buns, to make their hotel room smell like cinnamon buns. | Dec 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | I am really annoyed to no end with those types. They get people like my mom and grandmother to send them money, and you know what they're all using it for. | Dec 29 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | The Koch Brothers and other Tea Party groups have also taken over those channels, and use them to spew right-wing un-American propaganda. | Dec 29 17:49 |
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| DaemonFC | You know what I say about NIMBYs? We should ignore them. If something is bringing jobs to your area, you shouldn't be allowed to complain about it unless it interferes with the actual use of your property. | Dec 29 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of NIMBYs that are protesting wind farms. I think there ought to be a law that stops local governments from being able to refuse them. The climate crisis so urgently needs to be dealt with, that the wind farm needs to take top priority over the people who shout "OMG! That's going to totally be visible from my house!". | Dec 29 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | Just out of curiosity, I searched for some benchmarks comparing Apple's A7 processor (PowerPC architecture, in the iPhone 5s) to the Snapdragon 800 (armv7 architecture, which powers high end Android and Windows phones). | Dec 29 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | The Snapdragon 600 is faster than the Apple A7, and the Snapdragon 800 is much faster than the A7. | Dec 29 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | The Snapdragon 805 will be out next year, and may even end up in the Samsung Galaxy S5, but if you're looking for a phone today, you'll want the Snapdragon 800. | Dec 29 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's in my LG G2, and I couldn't be more impressed with the performance or battery life. Qualcomm really hit this one out of the ballpark. And the phones that have the Snapdragon 800 CPU are hundreds of dollars cheaper than iPhone 5s. | Dec 29 18:03 |
| MinceR | except A7 is ARM. | Dec 29 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | I thought it was PPC? | Dec 29 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | No? | Dec 29 18:04 |
| MinceR | it's an ARM, according to wikipedia | Dec 29 18:04 |
| MinceR | (and according to my memory as well) | Dec 29 18:04 |
| DaemonFC | The only test that the iPhone 5s did better on than my LG G2 is the Sunspider Javascript benchmark, which was written by Apple. | Dec 29 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | And you'd expect that their own web browser would ace that. | Dec 29 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | Technically, the A7 should be better, but the phone benchmarks on the iPhone are actually worse than the top Android phones with the Snapdragon processors. | Dec 29 18:07 |
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| DaemonFC | I suppose it could all boil down to Android being a better operating system. | Dec 29 18:07 |
| MinceR | i wonder if hypeOS (and OSuX) still uses the frankenkernel | Dec 29 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | The difference between the LG G2 and Nexus 5 are significant. | Dec 29 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | The only major difference is that the G2 has Android 4.2.2, and the Nexus 5 has Android 4.4 | Dec 29 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | The Nexus 5 hardware is the same. | Dec 29 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | So, maybe when they upgrade the G2 to Android 4.4, further benchmarking is in order. | Dec 29 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 29 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | I heard that LG is rolling out the Android 4.4 update in certain areas right now. I haven't received it yet. | Dec 29 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | I've had one upgrade since I got the phone. It just fixed two bugs in Android 4.2.2 though. | Dec 29 18:09 |
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| DaemonFC | "Gays don't go to Heaven." Who died and made you God? | Dec 29 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | Like · a few seconds ago | Dec 29 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | Jeff Jerry Webb Well good luck on the upcoming marriage. Which one of you will wear the gown? And which one of you will bear the children? Oh, I forgot that child bearing can only be possible if one of you is actually a female. Well good luck anyway and maybe we'll meet in Heaven. Silly me, I keep forgetting that gays don't go to Heaven. | Dec 29 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | Me: I never wanted children anyway. My bf is already basically raising the children that his good for nothing cousin produced. The most reproductive straight people are often the least productive. His cousin sits around all day and smokes that K2 Spice crap. Leaves the kids with my bf. My bf's cousin was mad when his kids started calling my bf "daddy". My bf is a really spectacular person. He stepped up and made sure that those kids have fo | Dec 29 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | od to eat and go to school every day, and they aren't even his kids! Oh, and, we'll both be wearing suits. | Dec 29 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | Like · 2 minutes ago | Dec 29 18:34 |
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| Sosumi | crapple could be cheating on the benchmarks just like samsung did | Dec 29 19:28 |
| Sosumi | but there's no way to know | Dec 29 19:28 |
| Sosumi | also what made you think that the A7 was PPC, that was fun | Dec 29 19:28 |
| Sosumi | and gays don't go to heaven | Dec 29 19:32 |
| Sosumi | they're buried or cremated just like everyone else is | Dec 29 19:33 |
| Sosumi | when they die, that is | Dec 29 19:33 |
| Sosumi | and before I forget | Dec 29 19:34 |
| Sosumi | when you see the iphone beating an "equivalent" high end device | Dec 29 19:34 |
| Sosumi | keep in mind that the iphone has a lower resolution screen | Dec 29 19:35 |
| Sosumi | and that beating equals at most 7 to 10 frames | Dec 29 19:35 |
| MinceR | it's an oxymoron anyway | Dec 29 19:36 |
| MinceR | the hypePhone is not a high end device | Dec 29 19:36 |
| Sosumi | nop, it's just like one of those luxuary phones | Dec 29 19:36 |
| MinceR | even worse | Dec 29 19:36 |
| Sosumi | like a vertu or those overpriced nokias | Dec 29 19:37 |
| MinceR | at least luxury phones ran symbian and android, afaik | Dec 29 19:37 |
| MinceR | even if they had relatively weak hardware | Dec 29 19:37 |
| Sosumi | I wouldn't be concerned too much about the lolphone | Dec 29 19:45 |
| Sosumi | they seem to only be popular inside the US | Dec 29 19:45 |
| Sosumi | but outside it is another story | Dec 29 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | The Moto G is a good all-around phone if you're in the market for an unlocked phone. | Dec 29 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | But, if you're going contract, at least get a G2 or the Nexus 5. | Dec 29 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | There's no point in getting the Moto G over the Nexus 5 if They're both the same price with a contract. The Nexus 5 is a much nicer phone. | Dec 29 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | Those prepaid companies are peddling crap. | Dec 29 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | They can afford to be cheap because they're basically giving you the crumbs from the big name carriers. | Dec 29 19:52 |
| Sosumi | motorola doesn't sell their stuff in portugal | Dec 29 19:52 |
| Sosumi | also no such thing as contract phones here | Dec 29 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint lets you upgrade every 20 months at the subsidized prices. | Dec 29 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | It restarts your two year contract though. | Dec 29 19:52 |
| Sosumi | nexus 5, G2 and so on are either sold locked or unlocked | Dec 29 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | You can keep using your old phone and go month to month, but the monthly price stays the same. | Dec 29 19:52 |
| Sosumi | and locked only means at most 90€ discount over the unlocked price | Dec 29 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Oh. The federal government just entered into an agreement with Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint. | Dec 29 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | They have to unlock your phone after your contract is up. | Dec 29 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | So when my contract is over, I could demand that Sprint unlocks my phone. | Dec 29 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | Then I can take my phone to any other carrier and keep using it. | Dec 29 19:54 |
| Sosumi | they do the same here, but it's after 2 years | Dec 29 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. So, if I want to save some money when the contract is up, I just tell Sprint to unlock the phone, then I can activate it on one of the prepaid networks. | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | So, you basically own the phone when the contract is up. | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | I have a feeling that that will cause the major carriers to offer some "deals" when your contract is about up. | Dec 29 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't be surprised to see Sprint offer some high end phones with a small up front payment. Maybe even no up front payment. | Dec 29 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | They charge enough for the service that they can give the phones away. | Dec 29 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | Razors and blades. | Dec 29 19:56 |
| Sosumi | with all the info they collect, carriers, NSA/CIA and so on, Google, M$, Apple | Dec 29 19:58 |
| Sosumi | I wonder why they don't give them for free | Dec 29 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | They were paying people to take iPhone 5c over Christmas. | Dec 29 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | You paid $49 for it and they gave you a $75 Walmart gift card. | Dec 29 20:00 |
| Sosumi | LOOOOL | Dec 29 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | I wasn't really considering it though. In the end you've not only got an iPhone, eww, but the slowest model sell. | Dec 29 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | *they sell | Dec 29 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency | Dec 29 20:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Reserve currency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/ga5fc ] | Dec 29 20:03 |
| MinceR | at least a negative value is closer to its actual worth | Dec 29 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | The US Dollar is not only remarkably stable, it's actually gaining again. Slowly. Mostly at the expense of the Euro. | Dec 29 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | The European Central Bank is performing so badly, that it's actually scaring people back into the market for US Dollars. | Dec 29 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that's a good thing for us, for now. | Dec 29 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | It keeps imports cheap and increases our buying power for the time being. | Dec 29 20:05 |
| Sosumi | damaging exports | Dec 29 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | Exports are up, actually. | Dec 29 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | Especially American-built cars. | Dec 29 20:06 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 29 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | Well, what's going on is that the foreign car makers are setting up in the southern US states. | Dec 29 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | They like the "business climate" of no taxes and low wages. | Dec 29 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | They can build their cars here and sell them in other markets cheaper than paying the taxes and wages of other developed countries. | Dec 29 20:08 |
| Sosumi | I see | Dec 29 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | The average wage of a union auto worker in Michigan is about $20 an hour. | Dec 29 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | The average wage of a non-union auto worker in Alabama is about $11-12 an hour. | Dec 29 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | I can tell you which one I'd rather drive though. | Dec 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | Ford still makes better cars and trucks than other companies that build cars here. | Dec 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to have one of their new F-150s. The ones that they'll be making out of aluminum here in a year or two. | Dec 29 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | They said they expect to get the weight down by over 700 pounds, and the gas mileage up over 30 miles per gallon. | Dec 29 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | That's pretty good for a pickup truck. | Dec 29 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's kind of ridiculous to keep making auto bodies out of steel. | Dec 29 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's heavy, it's expensive. | Dec 29 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nbcnews.com/business/set-detroit-debut-fords-aluminum-f-150-2D11812834 | Dec 29 20:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.nbcnews.com | Set for Detroit debut: Ford's aluminum F-150 - NBC News.com [ http://ur1.ca/ga5in ] | Dec 29 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | The 2015 Mustang is looking good too. | Dec 29 20:12 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 29 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, I specifically set out looking for a Crown Victoria this year. | Dec 29 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | I bought a 1996 one. | Dec 29 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | I've been pretty impressed. I'm getting better gas mileage than the Taurus was, and the car is much faster. | Dec 29 20:14 |
| Sosumi | well, that's nice | Dec 29 20:14 |
| Cirrus_Minor | http://linuxgizmos.com/open-sbc-runs-linux-on-quad-core-exynos-4412/ | Dec 29 20:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | linuxgizmos.com | $59 open SBC runs Linux on quad-core Exynos · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/g9qcx ] | Dec 29 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi, I don't like the newer cars. | Dec 29 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | They've gotten so small. | Dec 29 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | No leg room. | Dec 29 20:17 |
| Sosumi | what's your height? | Dec 29 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | 6' 4" | Dec 29 20:18 |
| Sosumi | meters | Dec 29 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | 1.9304 | Dec 29 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 29 20:19 |
| Sosumi | you're a giant | Dec 29 20:19 |
| Sosumi | I'm only 1.73 | Dec 29 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | I used to think so. | Dec 29 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | It's getting more common to see people of my height, or taller. | Dec 29 20:19 |
| Sosumi | we hobbits will prevail no matter what | Dec 29 20:26 |
| DaemonFC | This Spotify Radio is quite good. | Dec 29 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Much better than Last.FM. | Dec 29 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Last.FM was getting worse and it just kind of lingered on for a while. | Dec 29 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | Near the end, they lost access to so much music that it was the same few songs over and over again. | Dec 29 20:37 |
| Sosumi | never used them, nor bothered checking what they were all about | Dec 29 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | Spotify Radio is free on Android now. | Dec 29 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | If you want the ability to choose what it's playing or more than 6 skips per hour, you pay $9.99 a month. | Dec 29 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like choosing what it plays. I like the radio better. | Dec 29 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | It surprises me. | Dec 29 20:40 |
| Sosumi | hum... | Dec 29 20:40 |
| *DaemonFC is shopping for OTC medications on Amazon. | Dec 29 20:41 | |
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| Sosumi | I think it's much better to buy a big 64GB card and put all your music in it | Dec 29 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | People with warehouse club memberships buy it real cheap and then mark it up a few bucks and sell it on Amazon. | Dec 29 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | Works out for me. I don't want to buy a $60 a year membership to Costco in Fort Wayne so I can save $10-15 a year. | Dec 29 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 29 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | No point in that. | Dec 29 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | This stuff is still cheaper than at Walmart. | Dec 29 20:42 |
| Sosumi | the meds? | Dec 29 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 29 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | The savings are small, but they add up. | Dec 29 20:43 |
| Sosumi | I thought everything could be cured with a bottle of vodka | Dec 29 20:43 |
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| DaemonFC | I just buy the jumbo bottles and I saved like $4 on one and $17 on the other. | Dec 29 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | $21 | Dec 29 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | Have to buy a year's worth, but oh well. | Dec 29 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 29 20:44 |
| Sosumi | they don't do that here :) | Dec 29 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | I've done this for about 5 years now, so that's a little over $100. | Dec 29 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | It's not nothing. :) | Dec 29 20:44 |
| Sosumi | you buy a box of wathever in units of 15 or 20 | Dec 29 20:44 |
| Sosumi | depending on the kind of med | Dec 29 20:44 |
| Sosumi | but no jumbo boxes | Dec 29 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | Spotify's web player wants Flash. | Dec 29 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Bleh! | Dec 29 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I could get Chrome just to leave open in the background. | Dec 29 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | The NPAPI version has sprung so many leaks that it really scares me to even have it installed. | Dec 29 20:49 |
| Sosumi | NPAPI? | Dec 29 20:50 |
| Cirrus_Minor | DaemonFC: ... | Dec 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Netscape Plugin API | Dec 29 20:54 |
| Cirrus_Minor | i pkd thios for aur heres a standalone py script https://gist.github.com/cirrusUK | Dec 29 20:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gist.github.com | cirrusUK's Gists | Dec 29 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | The one that Firefox uses. | Dec 29 20:54 |
| Cirrus_Minor | poor mans spotify, its preddy awesome, play,search,download almost any song faster than any other method | Dec 29 20:54 |
| DaemonFC | The way Chrome runs plugins is safer. | Dec 29 20:55 |
| DaemonFC | It wouldn't do Firefox any good to implement Pepper though, because Adobe still wouldn't ship a standalone Flash plugin, and Firefox can't bundle it or they would not be Free. | Dec 29 20:56 |
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| DaemonFC | Sosumi, I do a lot of stuff like that. Bulk buying when I can get a really good deal. | Dec 29 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | It takes a long time for the savings to be fully realized, but on average, it saves me a few hundred dollars a year. | Dec 29 21:16 |
| Sosumi | yeah, no worries I can see that | Dec 29 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Dec 29 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | No Spotify app in the Windows store. | Dec 29 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | That must be embarrassing for Microsoft. | Dec 29 21:31 |
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| DaemonFC | Stocking my medicine cabinet with Costco-brand stuff that people sell on Amazon. | Dec 29 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | What's funny is that they can buy it at Costco, mark it up 50%, pay to ship it to an Amazon Warehouse, pay Amazon to ship it to me, and still be about 33% less expensive than Walmart. | Dec 29 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | McDonalds has shut down their "McResource" website, after being mercilessly lampooned for making out an employee budget that includes income from a second job, doesn't factor in heating or food, that still doesn't balance out, then telling employees to take two vacations per year, and how to tip their pool cleaner and personal masseuse. | Dec 29 22:17 |
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| DaemonFC | My mom was kind of shocked when I gave someone the advice of lying on a job application. | Dec 29 22:30 |
| DaemonFC | I told him to just say he had a high school diploma and to make up some job he never had and then get a relative with a different last name to play along. | Dec 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | She said "If they find out, they can fire him!". | Dec 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | I said "If he doesn't tell them this, he won't get the job and then he'll starve." | Dec 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | She doesn't know what it's like out there right now. | Dec 29 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | When there's three people competing over every job opening, and you have severe disadvantages, the only thing to do is lie so that they don't just toss your application in the trash. | Dec 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | It sucks, but it's what you have to do. | Dec 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETwl1BUHcXs | Dec 29 22:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Bo Burnham - 04 WDIDLN (what. album) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/ga6tp ] | Dec 29 22:49 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link via Gizmodo. | Dec 29 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | 7 seconds ago | Dec 29 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://gizmo.do/BXpMAVr | Dec 29 23:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gizmodo.com | A Maximally Simple Breathalyzer Makes Sense for Drunk People | Dec 29 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | I'd have to be drunk before I bought an iPhone, so there'd be no point in having this app. | Dec 29 23:38 |
| DaemonFC | There's a bargain. | Dec 30 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | A year's worth of my allergy pills for $18.85 | Dec 30 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart's generic of the same medication is $20 for a 90 day supply. | Dec 30 00:08 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/27/video-violent-game-of-knockout-breaks-out-at-brooklyn-mall-after-hundreds-of-teens-plan-mass-looting-on-facebook-twitter/ | Dec 30 06:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theblaze.com | VIDEO: Violent Game of ‘Knockout’ Breaks Out at Brooklyn Mall After Hundreds of Teens Plan Mass Looting on Facebook, Twitter | Video | TheBlaze.com [ http://ur1.ca/ga92f ] | Dec 30 06:25 |
| Sosumi | was NSA watching porn again? | Dec 30 06:25 |
| Sosumi | instead of working | Dec 30 06:25 |
| iophk | Vista8 getting piggybacked onto regular Android machines: http://hothardware.com/News/PC-Plus-Machines-Being-Prepped-For-CES-To-Run-Android-On-Windows-In-Retaliation-Against-MSFT/ | Dec 30 06:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | hothardware.com | 'PC Plus' Machines Being Prepped For CES To Run Android On Windows In Retaliation Against MSFT - HotHardware [ http://ur1.ca/ga971 ] | Dec 30 06:55 |
| iophk | Android machines to run Vista8 in retaliation against ? | Dec 30 06:55 |
| iophk | A resurfacing of the 'windows too' tactic. | Dec 30 06:56 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/12/wii-u-gamepad-hacked-reverse-engineered-to-steam-from-a-pc/ | Dec 30 12:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Wii U gamepad hacked, reverse engineered to stream from a PC | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gaagc ] | Dec 30 12:42 |
| Sosumi | wii u | Dec 30 12:42 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 30 12:42 |
| Sosumi | think of a game gear broken in two parts | Dec 30 12:42 |
| Sosumi | but instead of taking 6 AA batteries | Dec 30 12:42 |
| Sosumi | you need to carry an UPS on your backpack | Dec 30 12:43 |
| Sosumi | just try to pack one 3000VA UPS from APC | Dec 30 12:45 |
| Sosumi | I think one of those weight as much as 80KG | Dec 30 12:46 |
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| Sosumi | scary, even a simple 1500VA ups is scary | Dec 30 12:46 |
| MinceR | mine is 800 VA :> | Dec 30 12:47 |
| Sosumi | I had a 800VA UPS back in 2002 | Dec 30 12:49 |
| Sosumi | from MGE | Dec 30 12:49 |
| Sosumi | but for some reason it ended up in flames 3 years later | Dec 30 12:49 |
| MinceR | mine is from Eaton, successor to MGE | Dec 30 12:50 |
| Sosumi | after that happened I contacted MGE and they offered me discount | Dec 30 12:51 |
| Sosumi | *a | Dec 30 12:51 |
| Sosumi | and picked a 1200VA model which I still have around, now serving a audio system+TV | Dec 30 12:51 |
| Sosumi | both models were ellipse premium | Dec 30 12:52 |
| Sosumi | your typical 500€ UPS | Dec 30 12:52 |
| Sosumi | but back in 2009 had to jump to 2200VA and got an apc from the SUA series | Dec 30 12:53 |
| Sosumi | it has been nice and it actually mitigates powerline issues | Dec 30 12:54 |
| Sosumi | also, wasn't MGE bought by the schneier electric group? | Dec 30 12:55 |
| Sosumi | which also owns APC | Dec 30 12:55 |
| MinceR | i think it was split up and bought by multiple entities | Dec 30 12:56 |
| MinceR | apparently part of it indeed ended up at Schneider Electric | Dec 30 12:56 |
| MinceR | they combined APC with MGE UPS Systems | Dec 30 12:57 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 30 12:57 |
| MinceR | Eaton bought MGE Office Protection Systems | Dec 30 12:57 |
| Sosumi | so I guess that means UPSs made in India | Dec 30 12:57 |
| Sosumi | just like my APC | Dec 30 12:58 |
| Sosumi | while the MGEs were at least assembled in france | Dec 30 12:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 30 12:58 |
| Sosumi | I guess that was why one of them ended up surrendering in such way | Dec 30 12:59 |
| Sosumi | frenchies... | Dec 30 12:59 |
| MinceR | "In late 2007, [Eaton Corporation] acquired the MGE Office Protection Systems division of Schneider Electric, as a result of Schneider's acquisition of APC." | Dec 30 12:59 |
| MinceR | strange | Dec 30 12:59 |
| MinceR | maybe they were under pressure due to antitrust regulations | Dec 30 12:59 |
| Sosumi | probably | Dec 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz | [11:58] <iophk> Android machines to run Vista8 in retaliation against ? | Dec 30 13:03 |
| schestowitz | If it's Android on PCs, then it's OK | Dec 30 13:03 |
| schestowitz | If Windows on phones and tablets, we're losing there | Dec 30 13:04 |
| schestowitz | In this case it's a loss to MSFT, I think | Dec 30 13:04 |
| Sosumi | why bother with windows mobile, it's trash | Dec 30 13:07 |
| Sosumi | it doesn't even have basic stuff that is even available on iphone os | Dec 30 13:08 |
| Sosumi | pfff M$ | Dec 30 13:08 |
| iophk | Android on notebooks is ok but why the extra baggage of Vista8? | Dec 30 13:08 |
| Sosumi | neither of them make sense on notebooks | Dec 30 13:09 |
| Sosumi | why limit the notebook to android aka google crap and ms junk | Dec 30 13:09 |
| Sosumi | when you can put some gnu/linux distro | Dec 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz | iophk: better than win only | Dec 30 13:10 |
| iophk | yes, it is that | Dec 30 13:10 |
| Sosumi | if that removes the need to pay the software licence | Dec 30 13:11 |
| Sosumi | then it is ok | Dec 30 13:11 |
| iophk | I suspect that the dual boot is a compromise to appease M$ | Dec 30 13:11 |
| Sosumi | as many laptops are actually requiring you to boot linux and accept the licence | Dec 30 13:11 |
| iophk | GPL EULA? | Dec 30 13:11 |
| Sosumi | before you reboot to access the bios and boot from an USB stick to install some distro | Dec 30 13:12 |
| Sosumi | *I meant boot windows | Dec 30 13:12 |
| Sosumi | *too much multitasking* | Dec 30 13:12 |
| iophk | Isn't that impossible with UEFI now? | Dec 30 13:12 |
| Sosumi | yeah with EFI, it applies to those | Dec 30 13:13 |
| iophk | http://rt.com/news/underreported-news-stories-2013-836/ | Dec 30 13:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | rt.com | Swartz, Fracking, Manning, GMO: 13 most underreported news stories of 2013 — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/g9s0f ] | Dec 30 13:13 |
| Sosumi | in those you need to boot winblows instead of going directly to the bios and booting from a usb stick | Dec 30 13:13 |
| Sosumi | that's what I meant | Dec 30 13:13 |
| iophk | http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/12/aaron-swartz-obituary-101418.html | Dec 30 13:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.politico.com | Why They Mattered: Aaron Swartz - Lawrence Lessig - POLITICO Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/g92p3 ] | Dec 30 13:14 |
| Sosumi | but I can't tell about newer models, specially consumer models | Dec 30 13:14 |
| iophk | some are locked down | Dec 30 13:17 |
| iophk | http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2013/12/30/nokias-new-2520-tablet-is-one-to-avoid.html | Dec 30 13:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dispatch.com | Nokia’s new 2520 tablet is one to avoid | The Columbus Dispatch [ http://ur1.ca/gaaoa ] | Dec 30 13:17 |
| Sosumi | nokia is dead | Dec 30 13:17 |
| iophk | quite dead | Dec 30 13:18 |
| Sosumi | and their last kewl phone was the E7 | Dec 30 13:18 |
| Sosumi | actually all their E series were quite nice | Dec 30 13:18 |
| Sosumi | http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e7-3545.php | Dec 30 13:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.gsmarena.com | Nokia E7 - Full phone specifications [ http://ur1.ca/gaaol ] | Dec 30 13:19 |
| iophk | http://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia | Dec 30 13:19 |
| iophk | M$ left them with the patents, risking turning them into a patent troll | Dec 30 13:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | seekingalpha.com | Nokia Corporation (ADR) (NOK): How Stephen Elop Destroyed Nokia [Apple Inc., Google Inc] - Seeking Alpha [ http://ur1.ca/eiog3 ] | Dec 30 13:19 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: windows mobile is dead. they're bothering with windows phone, which is much worse. | Dec 30 13:19 |
| Sosumi | should have gotten that one when it was available | Dec 30 13:19 |
| Sosumi | you can beat a dead horse | Dec 30 13:20 |
| MinceR | and the nokia E series was always lacking in features, iirc | Dec 30 13:20 |
| Sosumi | but no matter how hard you beat, it'll never move | Dec 30 13:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 30 13:21 |
| Sosumi | E series were good enough for me | Dec 30 13:21 |
| iophk | Wikipedia has been sanitized by M$ boosters: | Dec 30 13:21 |
| iophk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elop_effect | Dec 30 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Stephen Elop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 30 13:21 |
| iophk | the page redirects | Dec 30 13:21 |
| Sosumi | and had decent build quality with some metal shells, etc | Dec 30 13:21 |
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| Sosumi | and I was checking Bill Binney's interview on infowhores | Dec 30 13:29 |
| Sosumi | until... | Dec 30 13:29 |
| Sosumi | AJ is now selling coffee | Dec 30 13:29 |
| Sosumi | will now Kim Jong Un want to attack the US in order to steal AJ's forty years supply of coffee | Dec 30 13:31 |
| Sosumi | ofc I'm joking about AJ's "<patrito> packs" | Dec 30 13:31 |
| Sosumi | *patriot | Dec 30 13:31 |
| iophk | (08:10:23 PM) schestowitz: iophk: better than win only | Dec 30 13:33 |
| iophk | It would be interesting to know the background. Was it a M$ only machine that was negotiated into dual boot with Android? Or was it an Android machine saddled with M$ at the last minute? | Dec 30 13:33 |
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| iophk | http://mashable.com/2013/12/30/why-chromebooks-beat-macs-in-commercial-sales-in-2013/ | Dec 30 14:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | mashable.com | Why Chromebooks Are Beating MacBooks [ http://ur1.ca/gaayc ] | Dec 30 14:39 |
| iophk | http://www.zdnet.com/2013-a-linux-christmas-7000024666/ | Dec 30 15:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.zdnet.com | 2013: A Linux Christmas | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gab1l ] | Dec 30 15:02 |
| iophk | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/10-disappointments-for-open-source-in-2013/ | Dec 30 15:04 |
| iophk | #10?? | Dec 30 15:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techrepublic.com | 10 disappointments for open source in 2013 - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/gab23 ] | Dec 30 15:04 |
| MinceR | i suspect he meant to say "GNU/Linux tablet", but even those exist... | Dec 30 15:06 |
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| Sosumi | it's jack wallen | Dec 30 15:32 |
| Sosumi | I remember reading some jokes about him around somewhere | Dec 30 15:32 |
| Sosumi | because of something he posted on HFS and ext4 | Dec 30 15:33 |
| Sosumi | or NTFS | Dec 30 15:33 |
| Sosumi | I don't remember | Dec 30 15:33 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3463765 | Dec 30 15:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Buying train tickets in the #uk anonymously still possible, but using free Wi-Fi (anonymously) requires buying First Class tickets | Dec 30 15:40 |
| schestowitz | "they only think they are anonymous" | Dec 30 15:40 |
| schestowitz | The illusion of privacy is more dangerous than none -- leading you to self-incarceration | Dec 30 15:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3460805 | Dec 30 15:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: As #TSA & other enemies of human rights ask for 'right' to tamper with devices in roads/airports they basically want to bias/select evidence | Dec 30 15:52 |
| schestowitz | "Well, yes. What's interesting is they ask for what they have been doing for more than a decade. I've had my laptops confiscated to be inspected out of sight several times. Now they put their hands in people's crotches, I can't imagine what they were doing to my laptop." | Dec 30 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Wow, under what authority did they take the laptop in the first place? Is it legal? | Dec 30 15:52 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: Wallen is quite OK | Dec 30 16:02 |
| schestowitz | when you don't agree with him, it's worth debating rather than bashing | Dec 30 16:03 |
| schestowitz | same for SJVN | Dec 30 16:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3464779 | Dec 30 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Who's the "rogue state" now? http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/29/5253226/nsa-cia-fbi-laptop-usb-plant-spy Notice the disgusting lies from #nsa partners #microsoft and #cisco | Dec 30 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theverge.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gab70 ] | Dec 30 16:03 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ6kOvO1SUE | Dec 30 16:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | mr.popo called it - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gabbu ] | Dec 30 16:04 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.dailydot.com/politics/nsa-backdoor-iphone-access-camera-mic-appelbaum/ | Dec 30 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailydot.com | The Daily Dot - The NSA has nearly complete backdoor access to Apple's iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gabgu ] | Dec 30 16:42 |
| MinceR | as expected | Dec 30 16:43 |
| Sosumi | well captain obvious appelbaum | Dec 30 16:43 |
| goblin_ | Wow, under what authority did they take the laptop in the first place? Is it legal? - Quite legal. Forgetting the condition of entry to any airport there's section 60 or a plethora of other powers they can use. | Dec 30 16:45 |
| Sosumi | apple's stuff is easily exploitable | Dec 30 16:45 |
| Sosumi | they were even jailbraking iphones through the built in browser a while a go | Dec 30 16:46 |
| goblin_ | I would suggest that the only good iPhone is a jailbroken one. | Dec 30 16:46 |
| Sosumi | naaah | Dec 30 16:47 |
| goblin_ | never owned one though. | Dec 30 16:47 |
| Sosumi | it messes the entire thing | Dec 30 16:47 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.democracynow.org/2013/12/30/glenn_greenwald_the_nsa_can_literally | Dec 30 16:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.democracynow.org | Glenn Greenwald: The NSA Can "Literally Watch Every Keystroke You Make" | Democracy Now! [ http://ur1.ca/gabhd ] | Dec 30 16:47 |
| MinceR | still an inferior substitute for a real smartphone | Dec 30 16:47 |
| Sosumi | from what I read, encryption wont work | Dec 30 16:47 |
| Sosumi | the only real smartphones around are the nexus phones | Dec 30 16:48 |
| Sosumi | those are the only ones in which you wont have a problem installing your own cooked roms | Dec 30 16:48 |
| MinceR | why those? | Dec 30 16:48 |
| Sosumi | because you void the warranty on the others | Dec 30 16:48 |
| Sosumi | I think | Dec 30 16:48 |
| MinceR | i think it depends on the manufacturer | Dec 30 16:48 |
| MinceR | also if it voids the warranty on the hw or just the sw | Dec 30 16:48 |
| Sosumi | hardware, if the cooked rom bricks the phone | Dec 30 16:49 |
| Sosumi | the manufacturer may refuse to repair the device under warranty | Dec 30 16:49 |
| MinceR | i suspect that if you brick a nexus device by flashing it, the warranty won't cover that either | Dec 30 16:50 |
| Sosumi | ho, ouch :) | Dec 30 16:50 |
| MinceR | i really like the way the Raspberry Pi is unbrickable | Dec 30 16:50 |
| Sosumi | does samsung/lg et all release the source code of their android builds and drivers? | Dec 30 16:51 |
| MinceR | not sure | Dec 30 16:51 |
| MinceR | it seems that eventually samsung did release the code cyanogenmod wanted | Dec 30 16:52 |
| Sosumi | well, that is good | Dec 30 16:52 |
| MinceR | but that is indeed easier in the case of nexus devices | Dec 30 16:52 |
| Sosumi | but with the nexus, you actually have the source code | Dec 30 16:52 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 30 16:52 |
| MinceR | though i wonder how the google experience launcher is handled in the case of the nexus 5 | Dec 30 16:52 |
| Sosumi | no idea, | Dec 30 16:52 |
| Sosumi | I'm still holding for a 32GB nexus 5 | Dec 30 16:53 |
| Sosumi | at this moment only the 16GB model is available | Dec 30 16:53 |
| Sosumi | but the from a generalized POV, only the nexus series behave like a true smartphone | Dec 30 16:54 |
| Sosumi | with the other devices you're actually at the mercy of the manufacturer | Dec 30 16:54 |
| Sosumi | just like the iphone | Dec 30 16:54 |
| Sosumi | although in a less restricted way | Dec 30 16:54 |
| Sosumi | with iphone you can't even load your own apps without going through apple's control and paying 99€ | Dec 30 16:55 |
| Sosumi | for something that you just want to use yourself | Dec 30 16:55 |
| Sosumi | also, it is widely known that these devices have kill switches and backdoors by default | Dec 30 16:57 |
| Sosumi | saying the nsa this or that is plain dumb | Dec 30 16:57 |
| Sosumi | they are already there | Dec 30 16:57 |
| MinceR | we need more smartphones that communicate with the radio cpu over serial link | Dec 30 16:58 |
| MinceR | as opposed to DMA | Dec 30 16:58 |
| Sosumi | well, and you don't have access to source code that runs those quallcomm modules | Dec 30 16:58 |
| MinceR | that would be nice too | Dec 30 16:59 |
| MinceR | but the serial link would already be a great step toward having security | Dec 30 16:59 |
| Sosumi | probably | Dec 30 16:59 |
| MinceR | now i encountered a "vevo" video on youtube that DownloadHelper couldn't save, but offliberty could save it | Dec 30 17:01 |
| Sosumi | what surprises me in this is crapple | Dec 30 17:14 |
| Sosumi | the company with the bitten apple, symbolizing the fruit bitten by the original man from the tree of knowledge | Dec 30 17:16 |
| Sosumi | ought to know better | Dec 30 17:16 |
| Sosumi | but it seems like they don't | Dec 30 17:16 |
| MinceR | they ought to know that story is false :> | Dec 30 17:17 |
| Sosumi | or refuse to acknowledge their flaws | Dec 30 17:17 |
| Sosumi | it's an allegory | Dec 30 17:17 |
| Sosumi | everything in the bible is | Dec 30 17:17 |
| Sosumi | just like the foundations of other religions | Dec 30 17:18 |
| MinceR | it's abrahamic religion's way of saying "you're evil because wanting knowledge is evil" and "you're punished for the sins of your ancestors" | Dec 30 17:18 |
| Sosumi | but it sets the example | Dec 30 17:18 |
| MinceR | it shows how much their supposed morality is worth | Dec 30 17:18 |
| Sosumi | but using the same stuff | Dec 30 17:18 |
| MinceR | abrahamic religion is a huge setback to human development | Dec 30 17:19 |
| Sosumi | if you've studied eastern mysticism, those religions say the material world is wrong and you should purge yourself of desires of the flesh | Dec 30 17:19 |
| MinceR | what would i be left with? | Dec 30 17:19 |
| Sosumi | with a dull life | Dec 30 17:20 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound like it's worth the trouble | Dec 30 17:20 |
| Sosumi | but having a god materialize into this world, aka jesus, that means the material world isn't all that bad | Dec 30 17:21 |
| Sosumi | and well | Dec 30 17:21 |
| Sosumi | when seth chopped osiris into 13 pieces and scattered them around | Dec 30 17:22 |
| MinceR | having an evil, childish and vengeful god materialize into this world? that's pretty bad | Dec 30 17:22 |
| Sosumi | isis set on a journey to recover them | Dec 30 17:22 |
| Sosumi | recovering all of them except one | Dec 30 17:22 |
| Sosumi | his phalus | Dec 30 17:22 |
| Sosumi | then she carved a phallus for her deceased brother/lover | Dec 30 17:23 |
| Sosumi | and with "magic" she impregnated herself | Dec 30 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | <Sosumi> I'm still holding for a 32GB nexus 5 | Dec 30 17:23 |
| Sosumi | gaving to birth Horus | Dec 30 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | I went for the LG G2 because the hardware is substantially similar to Nexus 5. | Dec 30 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | But, all the Nexus 5 contract phones are 16 GB. | Dec 30 17:24 |
| Sosumi | so Horus is Osiris born again | Dec 30 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | 32 GB is a massive amount of storage for an Android device. | Dec 30 17:24 |
| Sosumi | and when the SUN-SETHS the cycle is repeated again | Dec 30 17:24 |
| Sosumi | you see, religion is just natural phenomena and astrological stuff told in certain particular way | Dec 30 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't want to go 16, because that might not be enough, but I've installed tons of apps and games, and I already have over a hundred high-res photos, and I still have like 23 GB available. | Dec 30 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | So, 16 GB is probably sufficient, but 32 is better. | Dec 30 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | 32 basically means you should never run out of storage, which is good. | Dec 30 17:25 |
| Sosumi | I scan a lot of books and my music library is huge | Dec 30 17:25 |
| Sosumi | and all lossless | Dec 30 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | Apps only tend to be like 1-5 MB for basic ones. | Dec 30 17:25 |
| Sosumi | plus I have good headphones (sennheiser momentum) | Dec 30 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe 15-20 for large games. | Dec 30 17:26 |
| Sosumi | but I really don't care about games | Dec 30 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | I think the biggest one I've seen was GTA: Vice City, which was over 100, but that's the only one I've seen that topped 100. | Dec 30 17:26 |
| Sosumi | just an doc editor/viewer | Dec 30 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | 32 GB is just a gigantic amount of storage for these things. | Dec 30 17:26 |
| Sosumi | and the typical twitter and google paraphernalia is enough | Dec 30 17:27 |
| MinceR | religion is more like people making up shit to answer questions they don't know the answer to | Dec 30 17:27 |
| MinceR | and then pretending that now they know the answers | Dec 30 17:27 |
| MinceR | and they stop looking for answers | Dec 30 17:27 |
| MinceR | and attack anyone who dares | Dec 30 17:27 |
| Sosumi | well you see... | Dec 30 17:27 |
| MinceR | some religions are more tolerant of science, though | Dec 30 17:28 |
| Sosumi | the ancient folks personified inanimate objects like the sun etc | Dec 30 17:28 |
| Sosumi | or even attributed a specific deity to some specific labor | Dec 30 17:28 |
| Sosumi | like a as aspect of a god, or a saint to some trade like fishing, law, birth, etc | Dec 30 17:29 |
| Sosumi | and I really don't blame them | Dec 30 17:30 |
| Sosumi | in a word of uncertainty paranoia is the law | Dec 30 17:30 |
| Sosumi | and you have to cling up to something | Dec 30 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's not necessarily that they don't want to know the answer. | Dec 30 17:30 |
| Sosumi | *world | Dec 30 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone reaches a point where they either can't comprehend the answer to a question, or become stuck with something that can't be determined. | Dec 30 17:31 |
| Sosumi | but that was back then, although there is still way too much backwardness around | Dec 30 17:32 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: it's that the real answer is often "heresy" | Dec 30 17:33 |
| MinceR | and then you have people tortured, threatened, killed, silenced, etc. | Dec 30 17:33 |
| Sosumi | and religion is just not devoting yourself to what some mediator (priest) says that god wants | Dec 30 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I was home schooled for a long time with those LIFEPAC and PACE things. | Dec 30 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | I can verify that some of what is in them is easy to mock. | Dec 30 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | For the most part, I think the material is comparable to what people in public schools will learn in a particular grade. | Dec 30 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the religious stuff comes in as an addendum. | Dec 30 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | Like "Here's algebra!" and you learn algebra, but then it makes comments like "God gave us math so that....". | Dec 30 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | So, you really do learn the material, but it kind of shoehorn's God into everything. | Dec 30 17:35 |
| Sosumi | it may come under the form of deranged ideas, like malthusianism or uttermost greed | Dec 30 17:35 |
| Sosumi | and actually, god didn't gave us algebra | Dec 30 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Some of it really did challenge my ways of thinking about things, in the opposite way of what they intended though. | Dec 30 17:36 |
| Sosumi | in fact it was the fallen angels expelled from paradise after rebelling against god | Dec 30 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | So, I think it's just as likely to backfire as it is to get the student to accept God as the reason for everything. | Dec 30 17:36 |
| Sosumi | that thought man astrology, math, work with metals, war, etc | Dec 30 17:36 |
| Sosumi | so in fact everything you do is evil | Dec 30 17:36 |
| Sosumi | bow down sinners | Dec 30 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Like, it points out things like secular humanism and Darwinian Evolution. It tries to discourage you from following that, but the point is that it mentions them. | Dec 30 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | The student may have never even heard of them. | Dec 30 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | So, it encourages some of them to go learn more. | Dec 30 17:37 |
| Sosumi | because for the priesthood, this was a form to keep control over a population or server as advisors to the local warlord | Dec 30 17:37 |
| MinceR | what's "deranged" about malthusianism? | Dec 30 17:38 |
| DaemonFC | Some of what those ACE PACE books teach would actually enrage right-wingers. | Dec 30 17:38 |
| Sosumi | it's backwards mentality trying to lock you down from development | Dec 30 17:38 |
| MinceR | that it would stand in the way of humanity's plan of forcing nature into regulating the human population via the most drastic methods? :> | Dec 30 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | I remember that in one book, it had a very anti-Capitalism message to it. | Dec 30 17:39 |
| Sosumi | also, from the darwinian theory | Dec 30 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | It said that we should all make it a goal to lead non-materialistic lives. | Dec 30 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | Then it went into the evils of consumerism and advertising. | Dec 30 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | So, it's not all bad. | Dec 30 17:39 |
| Sosumi | and again the double edged sword | Dec 30 17:39 |
| Sosumi | if a species goes exctint | Dec 30 17:39 |
| Sosumi | it just means that it failed to adapt to the new conditions | Dec 30 17:40 |
| Sosumi | after all, his book was "the origin of the species by means of NATURAL SELECTION" | Dec 30 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | Advertising does anger me. It's a waste of my time. | Dec 30 17:40 |
| Sosumi | evolution came much later | Dec 30 17:40 |
| DaemonFC | I don't have the money to buy most of what is being advertised, so it just makes me feel bad. | Dec 30 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | The only advertising that I really respond to is maybe if I get a coupon for something I was already planning to buy. | Dec 30 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | In this economy, who could really blame me for that? :) | Dec 30 17:41 |
| Sosumi | and actually, you don't have the complete stages of evolution for any species on this planet | Dec 30 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | I go out of my way to stockpile necessities when I get coupons. Like, I went down to the grocery store during one of their "mega events", armed with hundreds of coupons, and I ended up walking out with a cart full of soap, shampoo, deodorant, toothpaste, dish liquid, etc. Just dozens of things I use every day. | Dec 30 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | And most of it was free. | Dec 30 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | So, I'm one of those customers that they really rather wouldn't have. | Dec 30 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | My next stop was ALDI, of course, for all my groceries. So the store and the manufacturers that had the sale and coupons lost money on me when I used them in that manner. | Dec 30 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | If everyone was like me, they'd soon be out of business. | Dec 30 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | I see it as a good thing to do, because it forced those companies to dump hundreds of dollars into the economy. | Dec 30 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | It created paid work for people, it had all those knock-on effects, then I walked out of the store with hundreds of dollars in my pocket that I spend somewhere else. | Dec 30 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | And they can afford that. None of them pay their fucking taxes, so people should see opportunities like this and "Get 'em!". | Dec 30 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | So, I see couponing as a desirable and maybe even patriotic thing to do. It forces private business to stimulate the economy. | Dec 30 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | The government sure as hell isn't planning to do that. | Dec 30 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | The stores and manufacturers would lose money, and it would drive prices up, and then people will start going to stores that don't do heavy marketing and can keep their prices low. | Dec 30 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | Like ALDI. | Dec 30 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | In the short term, billions of dollars get flushed back out of the hands of millionaires and billionaires, and into the productive economy. | Dec 30 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | What's not to love? | Dec 30 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | In the short term, there's more work and more jobs, and in the long term, it would damage the marketing industry. | Dec 30 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Those are very desirable goals. | Dec 30 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, I already see that happening. | Dec 30 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone started redeeming their coupons all at once because of the recession, and the stores responded by cutting the value of their coupons and raising prices. | Dec 30 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | Now, big companies like Kroger and Walmart are losing business. | Dec 30 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | I think Walmart's same store sales are down by like 3% this year. | Dec 30 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | Investors respond negatively to that. Walmart resorts to gimmicks to keep the stock price high. | Dec 30 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | They are buying back shares. Eventually there won't be any to buy back, and they'll be left holding all of their own stock when the company tanks. | Dec 30 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | It'll be fucking beautiful. B-) | Dec 30 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | In the mean time, these gimmicks put lots of money into 401(k) and pension plans, and prop up worker retirement portfolios. | Dec 30 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | So, they're in a vicious cycle that's hurting them and benefiting nurses and teachers and factory workers. | Dec 30 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | Etc. :) | Dec 30 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | They can't stop because it would cause their stock price to collapse. | Dec 30 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | They'd love to stop, they just can't. | Dec 30 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | Share buy backs are the reason the stock market is riding high right now. | Dec 30 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | The Fed's policies have unintentionally doubled or tripled the value of retirement plans. | Dec 30 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | As long as you take your money and leave at the right time. It's hard to say what the right time is. | Dec 30 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | Take the money, pull your investment, sell your shares at the inflated price, and then invest in foreign companies where there's still the potential for growth. | Dec 30 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I was having this discussion with a friend the other day when he mentioned that Social Security's "trust fund" is like a ponzi scam. | Dec 30 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | I told him that it's even worse than that. I told him that any competent private investment broker that wanted to keep his job would beat inflation. | Dec 30 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | Social Security is limited to buying T-bills. | Dec 30 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | I said that if they quit buying T-bills and started buying TIPS, then it would hold its value against inflation, and assuming the government doesn't default, the government would owe more money to Social Security, and it would be solvent for another 15-20 years. | Dec 30 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | But that's exactly why they won't. The last thing they want is to owe Social Security even more money. :) | Dec 30 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | They're still trying to figure out how to steal the money it has on the books right now. | Dec 30 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> that it would stand in the way of humanity's plan of forcing nature into regulating the human population via the most drastic methods? :> | Dec 30 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | Alex Jones claims that everyone alive today could fit into Texas. | Dec 30 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | That's kind of a disturbing thought. | Dec 30 18:12 |
| DaemonFC | The only consistent way to make people more angry and violent than they already tend to be is to cram large numbers of them into small areas. | Dec 30 18:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3465850 | Dec 30 18:12 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #NSA has nearly complete #backdoor access to Apple's iPhone http://www.dailydot.com/politics/nsa-backdoor-iphone-access-camera-mic-appelbaum/ avoid #apple http://techrights.org/2013/12/30/boycott-apple/ | Dec 30 18:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.dailydot.com | The Daily Dot - The NSA has nearly complete backdoor access to Apple's iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gabgu ] | Dec 30 18:13 |
| MinceR | yes, everyone alive today could die in Texas | Dec 30 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "top lel" | Dec 30 18:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | More Reasons to Boycott Apple, Which Abuses Courts, Engages in Competition Crime, and Aids Espionage | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gabqm ] | Dec 30 18:13 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3463732 | Dec 30 18:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We need to push for social state of affairs where people, by using Windows or Mac OSuX, basically broadcast their ineptitude | Dec 30 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the United States still has lots of big empty states where there's basically nothing there. | Dec 30 18:13 |
| schestowitz | true | Dec 30 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Well, except some tax shelters and crazy people. | Dec 30 18:13 |
| schestowitz | they could fit in Texas | Dec 30 18:13 |
| schestowitz | but you could not feed them | Dec 30 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Like, South Dakota and Nebraska. | Dec 30 18:14 |
| schestowitz | not from within the state | Dec 30 18:14 |
| MinceR | and if you exterminate everything that's there, you'll find out that you kind of depended on it | Dec 30 18:14 |
| MinceR | like the rainforests | Dec 30 18:14 |
| MinceR | turns out humans need oxygen :> | Dec 30 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I saw something on Facebook the other day that you reminded me of. | Dec 30 18:14 |
| schestowitz | there's some nic echart which shows how small a place you could fir 7 billion people into if you extrapolate the density of some highly populated places like Singapore | Dec 30 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | If trees produced wifi signals, they'd be planting them everywhere. | Dec 30 18:14 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 30 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | But all they make is stupid old oxygen. | Dec 30 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 30 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Alex Jones ayas many stupid things, this ain't one of them | Dec 30 18:15 |
| MinceR | food also needs to be produced somewhere | Dec 30 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | Well, with efficient population distribution, we could cut resource usage. | Dec 30 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | A lot. | Dec 30 18:15 |
| MinceR | yes, and we could let more people live at the cost of reducing quality of life for everyone | Dec 30 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | My uncle, the one that lives in a rural area in Georgia... He has to drive like 30 miles each way to the grocery store. | Dec 30 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | That's not very efficient. | Dec 30 18:16 |
| MinceR | somehow i'm not convinced that i want that. | Dec 30 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Who wants to drive 60 miles and burn three gallons of gas every time you need groceries? | Dec 30 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Or need to see a doctor. Or want to go out to eat.... Or, anything really... | Dec 30 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | So, like you'd expect, he wears out cars very quickly. | Dec 30 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | He racked up over 350,000 miles on his Honda, and it was only like 6 years old... | Dec 30 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | If you live in a city and you'er close to everything, it really helps to keep the miles off your car. | Dec 30 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | Mine's a 1996 and it only has 96,200 miles on it right now. | Dec 30 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | The former owner took fantastic care of it. The only real problem was when they went to park it and a brake line had rotted out. | Dec 30 18:19 |
| DaemonFC | They hit a parking post at like 5 miles an hour and there's a small piece missing from the grille. | Dec 30 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | Other than that, it's in excellent condition. | Dec 30 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | So, it's really not efficient to have people spread out like this. | Dec 30 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | The way that humans are behaving right now is like something from a bad game of The Sims. | Dec 30 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | Where you make all the wrong decisions, let things fall apart, allocate land and resources incorrectly... | Dec 30 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | There's parts of the Untied States where they could put enough solar panels to provide enough electricity for the entire country. | Dec 30 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | Instead, we just burn coal and poison everyone. | Dec 30 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't make any sense other than it's a really cheap thing to do. | Dec 30 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | It will have consequences shortly, but don't worry about that, that's like 20-30 years from now. :) | Dec 30 18:25 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85 | Dec 30 18:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | E85 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Dec 30 18:27 |
| DaemonFC | "Use of gasoline in an engine with a high enough compression ratio to use E85 efficiently would likely result in catastrophic failure due to engine detonation." | Dec 30 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that's a problem. :\ | Dec 30 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | Oh well, at least people who used the wrong pump would know better next time. :D | Dec 30 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | E85 is more the result of perverse government incentives than an actual need or market demand. | Dec 30 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | At least, the way they produce it here. | Dec 30 18:30 |
| MinceR | aren't those engines new enough to adjust to the octane rating of the fuel they use? | Dec 30 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, but they're designed to run on gasoline or E85, so they're not as efficient at using E85 as they could be. | Dec 30 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | If you made an engine that could burn E85 with high efficiency, then putting straight gasoline into it would cause it to explode. | Dec 30 18:33 |
| MinceR | ic | Dec 30 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | That's what the Wikipedia article is saying. | Dec 30 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm still debating on whether or not to make the switch to 5w20 motor oil. | Dec 30 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | Ford Motor Company says my car can use it, but Ford Motor Company isn't on the hook to pay me for my loss if it causes premature engine failure. | Dec 30 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 30 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | And Ford Motor Company has an incentive to trash engines in cars that are already out there and paid off, so that Ford Motor Company can sell more new cars. | Dec 30 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | So, I'm not sure that Ford Motor Company's advice is good advice for me. | Dec 30 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | Ford Motor Company advises owners to do everything necessary to make it out of the warranty period, and that's about it. | Dec 30 18:36 |
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| DaemonFC | The warranty on my car expired in 1999, so they have no reason to give a shit about what happens to my car. | Dec 30 18:36 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 30 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | So, does anyone know if using 5w20 is a good idea or not? | Dec 30 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard that it can bring your gas mileage up by about 2%. | Dec 30 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | If it doesn't significantly increase engine wear, that's a good deal, because it costs the same per quart as the 5w30 that I use. | Dec 30 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | So, it would be like paying about 7-8 cents less per gallon of gas. | Dec 30 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | If their claims are true.... | Dec 30 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sort of on the fence about this one. | Dec 30 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Personal attacks, irrespective of whether it's true or not: http://sambiddle.kinja.com/paul-graham-writing-about-women-on-his-website-1491875959 | Dec 30 18:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | sambiddle.kinja.com | Paul Graham Writing About Women on His Website [ http://ur1.ca/gabu7 ] | Dec 30 18:43 |
| schestowitz | I mean, attack on PG | Dec 30 18:43 |
| schestowitz | not on women | Dec 30 18:43 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmmm. It seems that the Dollar Tree store lowered their price on my allergy pills. So, between two medications I only saved $12.95 over the next year. | Dec 30 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder why Walmart hasn't reduced their price on Cetirizine. | Dec 30 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's still priced at what it always was. | Dec 30 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | The price really collapsed on that stuff when it went OTC, then again when the patent ran out, and then again as more suppliers started making it. | Dec 30 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | It went from $5 per pill to 5 cents per pill. | Dec 30 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | A 99% reduction. | Dec 30 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 30 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ping still about? | Dec 30 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | I was reading an article posted to Facebook that said they have no idea why the government's costs to run Medicare are rapidly declining. | Dec 30 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Hacker Public Radio New Years pocast starting 10am this morning 31st December | Dec 30 20:04 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: ending mid day tommorow new years day | Dec 30 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | That just shows how ludicrous it is to trust the Congressional Budget Office. | Dec 30 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | maybe you should come on to | Dec 30 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | ,but got to do it via Mumble | Dec 30 20:05 |
| sebsebseb | and you goblin_ if you can and time and yeah :D | Dec 30 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | They projected that Medicare costs would increase over the next 10 years at the same average rate they grew over the last 10 years. Instead, what happened was that lots of drugs lost their patent protections, and the sequester lowered physician and hospital reimbursement rates by 2% from last year's levels. | Dec 30 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | So Medicare is now covering more people *and* the total cost is declining. | Dec 30 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | So, if the CBO can't even predict what will happen next year, there's no reason to think that their ten year projections are believable. | Dec 30 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | There were other cost reductions to Medicare in Obamacare. It cut the reimbursement rate for name brand-only drugs in half, punished hospitals with high re-admission rates, and then increased the budget to the Office of Inspector General to combat fraud. | Dec 30 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | They also stopped automatically paying for those $2,500 power chairs every time they got a request, and started looking into whether they're actually necessary on a case by case basis. | Dec 30 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | So, lots of good stuff. And Obama actually ended up keeping that promise that none of the cost savings would eat into beneficiary benefits. | Dec 30 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | I'd expect to see that Medicare cost increases will be in line with overall inflation rates for the next 10 years. Those charts that the Republicans were pointing at with their little pointy sticks that showed the cost of the program doubling can go away now. | Dec 30 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | They were discussing turning it into a needs-based program, but it already is one. | Dec 30 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | The very poor pay nothing in premiums, the middle class pays about $150 a month, and the rich pay nearly $800. | Dec 30 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone over 65 qualifies, but your premiums go up with your income. | Dec 30 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans passed a law in 1997 that created for-profit insurance programs that take Medicare dollars as the premium. People over 65 can enroll in those. Not surprisingly, the mortality rate of patients that chose the for-profit alternative is much higher. | Dec 30 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | You're dealing with an insurance company that makes more money if they kill you. So, why wouldn't the mortality rate be higher? | Dec 30 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | So, most people that chose those programs said that they were "very dissatisfied" and went back to Original Medicare ASAP, and at least several of those companies have been repeatedly fined for defrauding the government. | Dec 30 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | But the fines didn't exceed their profits, so they keep doing it. | Dec 30 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | Every so often, the government comes along and slaps them on the wrist and says "Now, now!". | Dec 30 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | I've studied the healthcare systems of many developed countries, out of curiosity. | Dec 30 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | The closest thing I could find to our new system is the one that they have in Switzerland. | Dec 30 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | But, the Swiss one is better. Everyone basically gets a minimum standard of care from the government, and then they can go out and buy add-on policies from private companies if they want that. | Dec 30 20:19 |
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| DaemonFC | Here, you just get some money from the government if your income is low, and then you're on your own. | Dec 30 20:19 |
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| DaemonFC | The corporate media is now trying to portray the Democratic Party as being in "shambles" because the few real progressives are becoming loud enough that it is starting to disturb some of them. | Dec 30 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | They're calling us the left-wing Tea Party. I figured they would, but I thought they'd start doing that sooner. | Dec 30 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I did complain to the people that maintain their website back in 2008 and again in 2012. | Dec 30 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | They were streaming the convention in Silverlight, and then they switched to Flash. | Dec 30 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | I had to wait several days until someone put it on Youtube. | Dec 30 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Have you written anything about that project that's started to make it possible to use Microsoft's Windows silverlight plugin in Firefox on GNU/Linux? | Dec 30 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | Is there a reason anyone would want to do that, or is it Microsoft-by-proxy trying to resurrect Silverlight? | Dec 30 20:25 |
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| MinceR | it's probably still encumbered with the same patents | Dec 30 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link via Hardball with Chris Matthews. | Dec 30 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.msnbc.com/hardball/stockman-clean-your-gun-liberal-tears | Dec 30 20:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.msnbc.com | Steve Stockman's gun cleaning suggestion: 'Liberal tears' | MSNBC [ http://ur1.ca/gacdh ] | Dec 30 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | This Republican reminds me of that Mason Verger character on the movie Hannibal. A disgusting child molester who drank martinis with children's tears in them. | Dec 30 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | He's recommending that right-wing gun nuts clean out their assault rifles with the tears from "liberals" who are crying because of....dead children that were murdered with assault rifles that they were allowed to buy because of gun deregulation made possible by right-wing nutcases. | Dec 30 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, think about this for a moment. | Dec 30 20:30 |
| MinceR | is it a good idea to clean rifles with water? | Dec 30 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think so, but he's stupid. | Dec 30 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | Stupid, crazy, and crooked. The three requirements of being a Republican politician. Although, they sometimes bend the rules if you don't have one of those traits, but double down on one of the others. | Dec 30 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/30/1258376/-How-has-your-generation-voted?detail=facebook | Dec 30 20:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailykos.com | Daily Kos: How has your generation voted? [ http://ur1.ca/gace8 ] | Dec 30 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | I've never voted for a Republican. | Dec 30 20:34 |
| MinceR | neither have i. :> | Dec 30 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | The Republican base is literalyl dying of old age. | Dec 30 20:36 |
| DaemonFC | They'll be totally screwed pretty soon. | Dec 30 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | Their path to 270 electoral votes is becoming more difficult. | Dec 30 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | The Democratic Party has basically retaken Virginia for the first time since Reconstruction, and they're getting ready to take North Carolina as well. | Dec 30 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | After that, it will be Georgia, then eventually Texas. | Dec 30 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | I suspect that the Republican candidate will win Georgia in 2016, but lose it in 2020 or 2024. | Dec 30 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | There's a growing portion of Georgia that supports the Democrats. The Republicans are still trying to quarantine it with gerrymandering. | Dec 30 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | The fundamentals of Indiana aren't projected to change too much. Obama won Indiana by a sliver in 2008 because so many people were disgusted and pissed off at Bush, but that didn't last long. | Dec 30 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | A Democrat can win a statewide election in Indiana, but they have to manage to peel off about 12-15% of the voters that identify as Republican, which explains Joe Donnelly. | Dec 30 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't really want Donnelly, but I voted for him. | Dec 30 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | The other guy was calling Social Security unconstitutional and saying that pregnancy by rape was something God intended. | Dec 30 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | That's how bad they have to get to make Indiana say "Whoa! Wait a minute!" | Dec 30 20:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 30 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | So, Donnelly might very well lose his seat in 2018 unless the Republicans can come up with another guy that says "RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE! JESUS!" for the last three months of the campaign. | Dec 30 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | He's going to have to vote against the party basically every time there's a controversial issue that comes up, where the Democrats have a few votes to spare. | Dec 30 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | shared The Other 98%'s photo. | Dec 30 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/p526x296/940810_735063269837987_186317441_n.jpg | Dec 30 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | They wouldn't lend me money for a car, and I have a FICO rating of 699. That's how hard it is to get a loan. They can make money with no risk by parking "excess reserves" at their account with the Fed, instead of lending the money and taking a risk. | Dec 30 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not a "bad risk". Statistically, only about 2-3% of people with my credit rating will default on a credit card or an auto loan. | Dec 30 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | They know that and they still won't lend me money. | Dec 30 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | My VantageScore credit rating (second most common after FICO) is B+. | Dec 30 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | I got totally wiped out in 2009 because of a hospital bill, and that sank my A+ credit rating to a D-. | Dec 30 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | That was why the bank said they denied my car loan. | Dec 30 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Basically, your credit rating has to be very nearly spotless or no loan. | Dec 30 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | So, I'll have to wait for that item to fall off. That should happen in November of 2016. | Dec 30 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | The more it ages, the higher your FICO and Vantage Score, but as long as lenders can even see it, don't count on a loan. | Dec 30 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | And it makes no difference whether you pay it off or not. | Dec 30 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, paying on it would make things even worse. Because it would show up as a paid account, but as new activity, and then I'd have to wait until 2020 for it to fall off. | Dec 30 20:51 |
| Sosumi | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kungfury/kung-fury | Dec 30 20:51 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 30 20:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.kickstarter.com | KUNG FURY by Laser Unicorns — Kickstarter [ http://ur1.ca/gacfz ] | Dec 30 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm biding my time. I'm trying to avoid any fresh marks. When that falls off, my FICO should be close to 800. | Dec 30 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | In the mean time, I'm using my credit cards and paying them off in full each month. | Dec 30 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2013/08/expensive-oil-changes-are-here-to-stay.html | Dec 30 20:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | blogs.cars.com | Expensive Oil Changes Are Here to Stay - KickingTires [ http://ur1.ca/gacgt ] | Dec 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | Mom's friend at work bought a BMW and then found out that the oil changes are $100. | Dec 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 30 20:58 |
| DaemonFC | I can drive my Ford down to my favorite local garage and get my oil changed for $20. | Dec 30 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | I could change it myself but it wouldn't be any cheaper. Those shops only make a few bucks. They do them so they can give the car a once over and tell you about repairs that need to be made. | Dec 30 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | If it's something stupid, I just say no and leave with my $20 oil change. | Dec 30 21:00 |
| DaemonFC | There wouldn't be any harm in using 5w20 in those cars that demand 0w20. | Dec 30 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason you do it is if the car is under warranty and you want to prove you did everything the way they say you have to. | Dec 30 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | Once the car is out of warranty, switch to 5w20 and save yourself $80 on every change. | Dec 30 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | 0w20 is expensive because only a few companies are making it, and it's a full synthetic. | Dec 30 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | I run whatever's a good name brand and on sale. Right now I'm using Valvoline because I got a rebate offer, but I'll switch back to Quaker State next time. | Dec 30 21:04 |
| DaemonFC | The oil change was $35 (because it was good on their semi-synthetic), but the $15 rebate brought it down to $20. | Dec 30 21:05 |
| DaemonFC | I research these things because I want to know what I'm putting in my engine. B-) | Dec 30 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | The independent lab tests have shown that there's not that much difference in wear or sludge between the major brands. | Dec 30 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | They all have to meet the same standards, so it's not surprising that they're all about the same. | Dec 30 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | The price isn't. :) | Dec 30 21:07 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen Valvoline as high as $3.99 per quart and I've seen Quaker State as low as $1. | Dec 30 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | Tim told me about the awful experience he had with a Volkswagon Jetta. | Dec 30 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | He said the oil changes were $70, the windshield wiper blades were $36 each and you could only get them fro ma dealer. | Dec 30 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | It's just too damned expensive to drive one of these imports. | Dec 30 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | They're good on gas, but they nickel and dime you everywhere else. | Dec 30 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, and the heater core on my mom's friend's BMW just went out and the shop says they think they can fix it for $800. | Dec 30 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | I had the same thing go out on my Taurus and the bill at the shop was like $390 or something like that. | Dec 30 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You see BMW dealerships EVERYWHERE around here. | Dec 30 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | And Volkswagon. | Dec 30 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | They're not good cars. | Dec 30 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | If you talk to 10 people who have owned one, you'll probably have at least 8-9 of them tell you "Don't buy one.". | Dec 30 21:17 |
| MinceR | neither are fords. :> | Dec 30 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | At least the Fords are cheap to maintain or fix. | Dec 30 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | When something happens, I'd rather be handed a bill for $390 than $800. | Dec 30 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Dec 30 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | But, you get that with "luxury cars". | Dec 30 21:18 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 30 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | The same parts on a Mercury Grand Marquis or a Lincoln Town Car (up level versions of my Crown Victoria) are more expensive. | Dec 30 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | Just because they call it a Mercury or a Lincoln instead of a Ford. | Dec 30 21:18 |
| DaemonFC | They make a lot of the parts just different enough that you can't use the ones for a Crown Vic. | Dec 30 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | Some are the same part, but they have two part numbers. | Dec 30 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | One is more expensive than the other, and dealers won't use the cheaper part. | Dec 30 21:19 |
| DaemonFC | I was totally intending to buy a 1999 Mercury Sable LS, but they sold it before I got there. | Dec 30 21:20 |
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| DaemonFC | They were signing the papers to someone that got to the dealer right before I did. I watched them do it. That was disappointing. | Dec 30 21:20 |
| DaemonFC | Perfect shape. Only 90,000 miles on it. | Dec 30 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, My stepdad doesn't like Ford cars, but loves their trucks. | Dec 30 21:21 |
| DaemonFC | I keep telling him that I will only ever buy a Ford car. He says there's something wrong with me. :) | Dec 30 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | I swore I'd never own another GM vehicle after what that Chevrolet Corsica did to me. | Dec 30 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | It was always something, and then it threw a rod. | Dec 30 21:22 |
| DaemonFC | Never did a month go by without SOMETHING happening to it. | Dec 30 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Other than the constant repair bills, it was an alright car. | Dec 30 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Decent gas mileage, good acceleration. Surprisingly comfortable considering it had the EPA designation "Subcompact". | Dec 30 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | They stopped making them because government safety regulations changed. | Dec 30 21:24 |
| MinceR | maybe it was only comfortable in the front :> | Dec 30 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | The government declared that they were not safe enough in a side impact collision. | Dec 30 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | That never really scares me too much. If one of these SUVs or F-350s hits you one the side, it's probably game over. | Dec 30 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | *on | Dec 30 21:25 |
| MinceR | that's why you need a big, tough car, too :> | Dec 30 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the Crown Victoria is a pretty big car. | Dec 30 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | You can't get a Ford car with a V8 anymore, unless you buy a Mustang. | Dec 30 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | They used the same engine I have in my Crown Victoria in the 1996 Mustang. | Dec 30 21:26 |
| DaemonFC | They made some performance mods though. | Dec 30 21:27 |
| DaemonFC | Dual exhaust and so on. | Dec 30 21:27 |
| MinceR | how does dual exhaust help performance? | Dec 30 21:28 |
| DaemonFC | Because there's a bigger air intake on the opposite end of the car as well. :) | Dec 30 21:28 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 30 21:28 |
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| DaemonFC | It doesn't make a huge difference though. | Dec 30 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | Without the dual exhaust mod, you have 210 hp and 270 foot pounds of torque | Dec 30 21:29 |
| DaemonFC | With the dual exhaust, you have 215 and 285. | Dec 30 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | The police interceptor had dual exhaust and some other mods. | Dec 30 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Different PCM programming. | Dec 30 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | It was rated at 250 and 297. | Dec 30 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | But it got horrible gas mileage. | Dec 30 21:31 |
| MinceR | such mods also reduce life expectancy, don't they? | Dec 30 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | A friend of mine owns one. I asked him why he never drives it anywhere. He said he only gets about 10 mpg in town, and about 16 on the highway. | Dec 30 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose they could. | Dec 30 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | The police get rid of them at 100,000 miles. | Dec 30 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | But what the police do to them probably puts more wear and tear on the engine than the mods themselves. | Dec 30 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | The odometer might only read 100,000, but they've probably had the car on 24 hours a day between three shifts. | Dec 30 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | And when they were running it, it was to chase speeders and other stuff like that. | Dec 30 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | So they'd just floor it. They don't worry about fucking up the car. | Dec 30 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | They can always sell it at auction and make us buy them another one. :) | Dec 30 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They're the government! :) | Dec 30 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | The government doesn't have government money, they have your money. | Dec 30 21:34 |
| DaemonFC | And since you're paying, there's some things they'd like you to buy. :) | Dec 30 21:34 |
| MinceR | no, there's some things they _will_ buy with your money | Dec 30 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 30 21:35 |
| MinceR | and if they run out of money, they'll just squeeze you some more | Dec 30 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Exactly! | Dec 30 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | That's why I voted against the property tax caps. | Dec 30 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Everyone went and voted for the caps, then they're pissed off that the sales tax went up and so did all their utility bills. | Dec 30 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Well fucking duh.... | Dec 30 21:36 |
| MinceR | it seems that governments just can't decrease their spending | Dec 30 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | It never happens. | Dec 30 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | When they do decrease spending, it's on the poor and middle class. | Dec 30 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then they increase their taxes. | Dec 30 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | The rich pay nothing. The corporations pay nothing. | Dec 30 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | The corporations get more subsidies than people get in welfare. | Dec 30 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Many many many times over. | Dec 30 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Each year, the federal government subsidizes housing for the rich at about $100 billion. | Dec 30 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | They spend about $60 billion on affordable housing for the poor. | Dec 30 21:37 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the $100 billion comes from the mortgage interest deduction. | Dec 30 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | They let you deduct however much you paid in interest on your mortgage from your federal taxable income. | Dec 30 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | But, renters get no deduction at all. | Dec 30 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | So the difference between paying $600 a month in rent and $600 a month on a mortgage is that you get to deduct a couple hundred a month from your gross taxable income if it's a mortgage. | Dec 30 21:39 |
| MinceR | is it still worth renting a home? | Dec 30 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | The government says it's to promote home ownership, but it doesn't. Not when the banks do what they do. | Dec 30 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah. If you're like me and the banks won't speak to you. | Dec 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | You have no other choice. | Dec 30 21:40 |
| MinceR | ic | Dec 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Some landlords will agree to do rent to own. | Dec 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | It amounts to a VERY high interest mortgage. | Dec 30 21:40 |
| MinceR | and that's still not deductible, is it? | Dec 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Nope, because it's an installment payment on your contract, not a mortgage. | Dec 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 30 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | So, the only way to get affordable rent is to make so little money that you qualify... | Dec 30 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | Fine, most people do, especially the ones that find jobs nowadays. | Dec 30 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | But, since the government devotes so little to rent subsidies, the waiting lists are often 5-6 years long. | Dec 30 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | Or closed entirely. | Dec 30 21:42 |
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| DaemonFC | So the program is there, but it only is funded enough to help less than half the people who qualify. | Dec 30 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | In the mean time, these rich people are getting to deduct their mortgage interest. | Dec 30 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | all of them | Dec 30 21:43 |
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| DaemonFC | And the subsidies for the rich homeowners is not an expense that the government can budget. | Dec 30 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | As long as there are no limits on the price of a home, there's no limits on the deduction. | Dec 30 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | So the government can't cap their loss at $100 billion. If home prices go up 50%, then so does the amount of money they lose on the deduction. | Dec 30 21:44 |
| DaemonFC | So they're writing out a blank check for lost income, to people that can afford that house fine without the deduction. | Dec 30 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Then they tell the people on Section 8 Housing to brace themselves for another round of cuts. | Dec 30 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | The tax laws are so awful that if you do your own taxes, you're probably not getting all of your deductions, but most people on the lower end of the income scale will pay more to have them professionally prepared than they'll lose by not itemizing and taking the standard deduction. | Dec 30 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Tax preparation services are like $80-100. You can do them yourself for free. | Dec 30 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | If you pay $100 and get another $50 on your refund, you're still out $50. :) | Dec 30 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | So, the people that miss out on the most money they're owed are the poor. | Dec 30 21:49 |
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| DaemonFC | So if you have 50 million people that each lose $50, the government takes in another $2.5 billion every year that they get to keep. | Dec 30 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | And that's just the federal government. | Dec 30 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | They audit returns at random, but they only notify you if you owe them money. | Dec 30 21:54 |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 30 22:16 |
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| DaemonFC | Tim texted me. Said he wants to grab something to eat when he gets here. | Dec 30 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | I told him the choices are down to Taco Bell or going to the gas station to get some junk food. :P | Dec 30 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Taco Bell probably gets a lot of business after 11 PM. They're the only restaurant in the entire town that's open. | Dec 30 22:53 |
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| Sosumi | since I mentioned darwin's origin of the species by means of natural selection | Dec 31 03:05 |
| Sosumi | and that evolution theory came later | Dec 31 03:05 |
| Sosumi | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531397/Shocking-study-reveals-A-THIRD-Americans-dont-believe-Evolution.html | Dec 31 03:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.dailymail.co.uk | ONE THIRD of Americans don't believe in evolution | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gadp6 ] | Dec 31 03:05 |
| Sosumi | by being the dailymail, it's already subject of laugher | Dec 31 03:06 |
| Sosumi | but lol | Dec 31 03:06 |
| Sosumi | schestowitz: quoting from twitter "Once upon a time #Arstechnica did not have moles and did have journalism." | Dec 31 03:12 |
| Sosumi | once upon a time, arstechnica had a dedicated page for everything "open source" | Dec 31 03:13 |
| Sosumi | ans also had a dedicated page which covered legal aspects in the tech business, etc | Dec 31 03:14 |
| Sosumi | but they sadly did with that away when they redesigned their website to the current format | Dec 31 03:14 |
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| smartass | good morning | Dec 31 05:55 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Dec 31 09:20 |
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| Sosumi | smartass, good morning VIETNAM!!! | Dec 31 09:40 |
| Sosumi | now the weather for today | Dec 31 09:40 |
| Sosumi | extra crispy with a slight chance for carpet bombing | Dec 31 09:41 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile, today is going to be a slow day | Dec 31 09:43 |
| Sosumi | everything is closing up around here at 15 | Dec 31 09:43 |
| Sosumi | for new year commemorations | Dec 31 09:43 |
| Sosumi | if they actually had some sense, they'd with to have 2004 played on a loop | Dec 31 09:43 |
| Sosumi | *wish | Dec 31 09:44 |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/418046079465447424 | Dec 31 10:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: #Internet #Censorship is Expanding Worldwide and We Need Free Software to Fight Back http://t.co/9wDkT5rIGr #www #freespeech #uk | Dec 31 10:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> techrights.org | Internet Censorship is Expanding Worldwide and We Need Free Software to Fight Back | Techrights | Dec 31 10:50 |
| roy_ | MinceR: we become luike Hungary now | Dec 31 10:50 |
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| DaemonFC | Sosumi, If you want to get technical, the extinctions that humans are causing is natural. | Dec 31 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | Humans came from nature. | Dec 31 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uah0SPt3Zwc | Dec 31 16:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Comix Zone Music Night of Mutants - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gagyi ] | Dec 31 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | good cover | Dec 31 16:01 |
| Sosumi | but humans are the only animal with the capacity to change/modify/adapt nature to his needs | Dec 31 16:34 |
| Sosumi | so in a sense human activity is the main adaptive force around | Dec 31 16:34 |
| Sosumi | causing species who can't adapt to the new paradigm | Dec 31 16:34 |
| Sosumi | to go extinct | Dec 31 16:34 |
| Sosumi | simple as that | Dec 31 16:34 |
| Sosumi | but even then | Dec 31 16:35 |
| Sosumi | this planet wont last forever | Dec 31 16:35 |
| Sosumi | and the humans, as superior being on this planet must make everything to make sure he survives | Dec 31 16:35 |
| Sosumi | and doesn't go down when the main suporter of life, disappears | Dec 31 16:36 |
| Sosumi | aka sun turns hostile, asteroid impact, pandemic, depleted resources | Dec 31 16:36 |
| Sosumi | that is why I advocate spreading through to multiple planets, well at least for now colonize the solar system | Dec 31 16:37 |
| Sosumi | and then spread | Dec 31 16:37 |
| Sosumi | which would create redundancy in the livestock | Dec 31 16:37 |
| Sosumi | spreading risk around, instead of concentrating it into a single point | Dec 31 16:40 |
| Sosumi | also anandtech reviewed the sodacan pro | Dec 31 16:40 |
| Sosumi | the top card is just a heavily underclocked r800 | Dec 31 16:41 |
| Sosumi | http://www.anandtech.com/show/7603/mac-pro-review-late-2013/10 | Dec 31 16:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | The Mac Pro Review (Late 2013) [ http://ur1.ca/gah2d ] | Dec 31 16:42 |
| Sosumi | so in the end you're paying for an underclocked r800 (650MHz vs 850MHz core clocks, everything else is also down) | Dec 31 16:43 |
| Sosumi | with 6GB vram instead of the reference 3GB, rebranded as FirePro (remember there is no distinction between workstation cards and gaming cards on OSX) | Dec 31 16:44 |
| Sosumi | and no ECC support | Dec 31 16:45 |
| Sosumi | big joke and sad Anand goes on congratulating the thing, plain sad | Dec 31 16:46 |
| Sosumi | so is it a workstation or just a small desktop that is half portable and with some "kewl" design | Dec 31 16:46 |
| Sosumi | maybe IF I carried it in a backpack in backpack with an UPS with and connected some steroscopic 3d glasses to it and a brain sensor | Dec 31 16:48 |
| Sosumi | that wouldn't be bad to make what google glass should have been | Dec 31 16:49 |
| Sosumi | or at least to serve as test bed for the concept software | Dec 31 16:49 |
| Sosumi | to the present and ask for zee monies | Dec 31 16:50 |
| Sosumi | ofc all I just said reeks of ghost in the shell | Dec 31 16:51 |
| Sosumi | :) | Dec 31 16:51 |
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| Sosumi | http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/mac/MacPro2013/CPUGPU7zip.png | Dec 31 18:08 |
| Sosumi | the trashcan isn't able to deal with heat | Dec 31 18:08 |
| Sosumi | for prolonged time | Dec 31 18:09 |
| Sosumi | reaching 88 ºC on the GPU side and 99ºC on the cpu side | Dec 31 18:09 |
| MinceR | crApple could never get cooling right | Dec 31 18:10 |
| Sosumi | they had it right on the old tower | Dec 31 18:10 |
| MinceR | the crApple III melted itself, though | Dec 31 18:10 |
| Sosumi | maxed for prolonged times, my system never went past 40 ºc | Dec 31 18:11 |
| Sosumi | and that was with the quad core 2.93GHz nehalem xeon | Dec 31 18:12 |
| Sosumi | but even now with 3970x and a noctua nhd14 | Dec 31 18:13 |
| Sosumi | my cpu never goes past 45ºc | Dec 31 18:13 |
| Sosumi | under prolonged max use | Dec 31 18:13 |
| Sosumi | the gpus are kind of another story, | Dec 31 18:13 |
| Sosumi | but they tend to stay at 77ºc | Dec 31 18:14 |
| Sosumi | and the machine isn't loud at all | Dec 31 18:14 |
| Sosumi | my ups is louder | Dec 31 18:14 |
| Sosumi | my quad g5 was much louder | Dec 31 18:15 |
| Sosumi | if it wasn't for the 4 gpus, I'd say that it is more silent than my 2009 mac pro | Dec 31 18:15 |
| Sosumi | which was already silent | Dec 31 18:16 |
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| Sosumi | probably folks who'll buy the thing | Dec 31 18:17 |
| Sosumi | will be able to make some coffee | Dec 31 18:17 |
| Sosumi | while they're posting on facebook | Dec 31 18:17 |
| Sosumi | and a bigger joke | Dec 31 18:18 |
| Sosumi | cards are identified as hd7900 series on winblows | Dec 31 18:18 |
| Sosumi | just like I've been saying all around | Dec 31 18:19 |
| Sosumi | lol | Dec 31 18:19 |
| Sosumi | fail | Dec 31 18:19 |
| Sosumi | zee snake oil is too big with coffee heater pro | Dec 31 18:19 |
| Sosumi | there's plenty of bashing material in that review | Dec 31 18:25 |
| Sosumi | I hope it gets put to good use | Dec 31 18:26 |
| Sosumi | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1NzA | Dec 31 18:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] X Server Security Disaster: "It's Worse Than It Looks" [ http://ur1.ca/gahbj ] | Dec 31 18:29 |
| Sosumi | http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/12/30/steam-removes-game-order-of-war-challenge-from-user-libraries/ | Dec 31 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.forbes.com | Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gahcu ] | Dec 31 18:47 |
| MinceR | another typical day for DRM | Dec 31 18:48 |
| Sosumi | yeah | Dec 31 18:56 |
| Sosumi | wellcome to the you no longer own stuff but licence it for X time under X conditions | Dec 31 18:57 |
| Sosumi | and yes, it's 2014 | Dec 31 19:22 |
| Sosumi | no y2k yet | Dec 31 19:22 |
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| MinceR | gn | Dec 31 23:23 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.ixsystems.com | MEGACORE: FreeBSD Foundation and iXsystems collaborate to further the cause of FreeBSD Development | iXsystems, Inc. [ http://ur1.ca/gaqdt ] | Jan 01 13:17 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Julian Assange to be guest on Radio 4's Today programme | Media | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gaqfk ] | Jan 01 13:26 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 14:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 14:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | gigaom.com | Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA backdoor claims — Tech News and Analysis | Jan 01 14:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 14:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <s-157> @matthew_d_green So NSA is capturing unencrypted crash reports | Jan 01 14:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <s-157> retweeted by from Windows computers? http://t.co/DA618sG8I4 | Jan 01 14:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.spiegel.de | Inside TAO: Targeting Mexico - SPIEGEL ONLINE | Jan 01 14:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:21] <s-157> @ioerror | Jan 01 14:28 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | GRRR... | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | oops | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @WeldPond RT @teamcymru Cisco “deeply concerned” over NSA | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> retweeted by backdoor claims http://t.co/KByLofuzJu < can't | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | [19:20] <s-157> @ioerror they ship a validation tool cust can use? | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | dman it.. something is broken | Jan 01 14:29 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3456539 | Jan 01 14:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu Is Storing Wi-Fi Passwords in Clear Text by Default http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Is-Storing-Wi-Fi-Passwords-in-Clear-Text-By-Default-412056.shtml too bad they can't hey basics right. #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Jan 01 14:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Is Storing Wi-Fi Passwords in Clear Text by Default [ http://ur1.ca/g9uwa ] | Jan 01 14:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I have to use Microsoft at work (by the way, the IT guys never approved Win8), and every time one of those little 'choice' boxes pops up "would you like to send a report to Microsoft?", I have always clicked 'no' for two reasons: 1) sending the report uses bandwidth and delays my getting back to what I was doing; 2) I didn't figure Microsoft was actually going to fix anything anyway. | Jan 01 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I have no idea whether it makes a difference or not. | Jan 01 14:31 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Several years ago I read that they only use these for stats. IOW, they would wait until 1.5 million people send some similar report and then "look into it". other than that, it's a customer support PR stunt. Mozilla might be better and more worth supporting. | Jan 01 14:32 |
| schestowitz | "Over a rather short time. I seem to recall the punditocracy publishing op-eds and making appearances to vilify #OWS within a day or two of its start.' | Jan 01 14:33 |
| schestowitz | OWS threatened Wall Street, i.e. the wealthy; if plutocrats hate it, then it means it's very effective and we need more of the same. | Jan 01 14:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 14:34 |
| schestowitz | "Over time" sounds like it's a thing of the future. | Jan 01 14:34 |
| schestowitz | But it already happens. | Jan 01 14:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Jan 01 14:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3467324 | Jan 01 14:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When was the last time a "terrorist" got caught at an airport? | Jan 01 14:34 |
| schestowitz | "That "terrorist": http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/18/glenn-greenwald-guardian-partner-detained-heathrow " | Jan 01 14:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Glenn Greenwald's partner detained at Heathrow airport for nine hours | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/f3oju ] | Jan 01 14:34 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3466104 | Jan 01 14:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @thewebalyst@joindiaspora.com: ### Remember Google StreetView? | Jan 01 14:35 |
| schestowitz | It's not only Google. In the consequence you need to avoid any big commercial provider and even then you can't be 'save'. Personally I agree with the opinion that there is no (more) a technical solution for a society problem..."" | Jan 01 14:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3466200 | Jan 01 14:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #cisco are filthy liars. In their public Web site they advertise back doors for authorities, now pretend, surprise! http://www.businessinsider.com/cisco-is-investigating-nsa-spying-claims-2013-12 | Jan 01 14:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.businessinsider.com | Cisco Is Investigating NSA Spying Claims - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/gac2v ] | Jan 01 14:37 |
| schestowitz | ""Gawrsh, we had no idea they were going to use that back door we wrote for them."" | Jan 01 14:37 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3466145 | Jan 01 14:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now it's clearer why #appelbaum harassed, raided, under surveillance by the spooks http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/nsa-interception-pc-malware-134744 http://www.extremetech.com/computing/173721-the-nsa-regularly-intercepts-laptop-shipments-to-implant-malware-report-says | Jan 01 14:37 |
| schestowitz | "has been * &" | Jan 01 14:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techweekeurope.co.uk | NSA 'Intercepted PC Shipments To Install Malware' [ http://ur1.ca/gas2y ] | Jan 01 14:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.extremetech.com | The NSA regularly intercepts laptop shipments to implant malware, report says | ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/gas2z ] | Jan 01 14:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/418444985688543232/photo/1 | Jan 01 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @MatthewKeysLive: Just in: HP says it was unaware of information published in Der Spiegel article on NSA exploits - http://t.co/z1WeAzzhTB | Jan 01 14:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @MatthewKeysLive: Just in: HP says it was unaware of information published in Der Spiegel article on NSA exploits - http://t.co/z1WeAzzhTB | Jan 01 14:43 |
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| schestowitz__ | This is why BSD refuses to use Intel and VIA for random number generation. Some backdoors in hardware can be bypassed, esp. when you don't have specs for the hardware (it is proprietary) | Jan 01 15:40 |
| schestowitz__ | "Let raise a question, the local gov's are taking care of dayly public security,like homicides in all cities zones ??? and about drug traffic and so on.... the public security on dayly basis is being taking care or not.... ;)" | Jan 01 15:40 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3472271 | Jan 01 15:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Journalists have just been warned. Don't travel to the US (e.g. to do some journalism), especially if you challenge those in Power. | Jan 01 15:40 |
| MinceR | do they use AMD or some other manufacturer, then? :> | Jan 01 15:43 |
| Sosumi | wasn't it in 2003 or so | Jan 01 15:48 |
| Sosumi | when some compaq/hp laptops had their HDDs flashed with a malware infected image | Jan 01 15:50 |
| Sosumi | but you should never use the default factory image and always reset a new phone when actually go to install your stuff | Jan 01 15:51 |
| Sosumi | default image should only be used for testing purposes and never trusted | Jan 01 15:51 |
| Sosumi | who can say that some undercover worker at a manufactoring or assembling plant didn't bug the default software image that gets cloned into those devices | Jan 01 15:53 |
| Sosumi | I think that is all common sense | Jan 01 15:53 |
| Sosumi | and I've doing that since forever | Jan 01 15:54 |
| Sosumi | cisco backdoors have been known since forever | Jan 01 15:55 |
| Sosumi | but there aren't that many other choices around either | Jan 01 15:55 |
| Sosumi | at least here | Jan 01 15:55 |
| Sosumi | it's either cisco, huwei or some other chinese company | Jan 01 15:56 |
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| Sosumi | or TP-Link | Jan 01 15:57 |
| Sosumi | so in between the two, pick the one that smells less bad | Jan 01 15:57 |
| Sosumi | *in between the three | Jan 01 15:58 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 01 22:11 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131231/08562425723/this-clip-former-nsa-boss-michael-hayden-calling-snowden-traitor-is-brought-to-you-microsoft.shtml | Jan 01 23:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.techdirt.com | This Clip Of Former NSA Boss Michael Hayden Calling Snowden A Traitor Is Brought To You By Microsoft | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/gayqa ] | Jan 01 23:39 |
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| iophk | http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/names/2014/01/01/customs-officials-destroys-flute-virtuoso-instruments/HRnFgh1FwIqY5n2FdoKlMN/story.html | Jan 02 03:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bostonglobe.com | Customs officials destroy flute virtuoso’s instruments - Names - The Boston Globe [ http://ur1.ca/gazer ] | Jan 02 03:06 |
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| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/not-so-anonymous-vpn-uses-edward-snowden-for-pr-140101/ | Jan 02 04:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Not So Anonymous VPN Uses Edward Snowden For PR | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gazn1 ] | Jan 02 04:00 |
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| iophk | http://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomainday/2014/pre-1976 | Jan 02 04:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | web.law.duke.edu | What Could Have Entered the Public Domain on January 1, 2014? [ http://ur1.ca/gagac ] | Jan 02 04:14 |
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| msb__ | schestowitz: "Journalists have just been warned. Don't travel to the US (e.g. to do some journalism), especially if you challenge those in Power." | Jan 02 04:47 |
| msb__ | schestowitz: Warned by whom? | Jan 02 04:47 |
| Sosumi | pffff, you don't travel to the US if your're a legit journalist | Jan 02 04:58 |
| Sosumi | or a computer cracker | Jan 02 04:58 |
| Sosumi | common sense says so | Jan 02 04:58 |
| Sosumi | and actually, if you're a computer cracker you also don't travel to countries that extradite to the US | Jan 02 04:59 |
| Sosumi | good thing portugal isn't one of those | Jan 02 04:59 |
| Sosumi | :) | Jan 02 04:59 |
| Sosumi | but that doesn't prevent some intelligence cell operating in your country to harass you | Jan 02 05:00 |
| Sosumi | *from harassing you | Jan 02 05:00 |
| *Sosumi slaps herself on the face in order to wake up | Jan 02 05:01 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 02 10:29 |
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| roy_ | This related to the latest news | Jan 02 10:53 |
| roy_ | court rules in favour of allowing border contorl/TSA to go through/copy contents of your phone/tablet/laptop, even without suspicoion | Jan 02 10:53 |
| roy_ | MinceR: ^^ | Jan 02 10:53 |
| roy_ | oops | Jan 02 10:53 |
| roy_ | msb__ I meant | Jan 02 10:53 |
| roy_ | [09:47] <msb__> schestowitz: "Journalists have just been warned. Don't travel to the US (e.g. to do some journalism), especially if you challenge those in Power." | Jan 02 10:54 |
| roy_ | [09:47] <msb__> schestowitz: Warned by whom? | Jan 02 10:54 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.anandtech.com/show/7604/asrock-m8/2 | Jan 02 11:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | ASRock M8 Barebones Review: My Steam Box [ http://ur1.ca/gb4es ] | Jan 02 11:15 |
| Sosumi | a nice looking steambox | Jan 02 11:15 |
| Sosumi | or whatever you want to make out of it | Jan 02 11:16 |
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| Sosumi | kind of confirmed | Jan 02 12:02 |
| Sosumi | some mods at macrumors are on apple's payroll | Jan 02 12:03 |
| Sosumi | as well some poster accounts | Jan 02 12:04 |
| Sosumi | judging the amount of damage control around anandtech's review around the thing failing on the stress tests | Jan 02 12:05 |
| Sosumi | and judging why the user Rominator which had already been banned once and then bandodged and created an account under the name of macvidcards | Jan 02 12:06 |
| Sosumi | has been banned again for telling the things how they are | Jan 02 12:06 |
| Sosumi | including workarounds, custom kexts, etc | Jan 02 12:07 |
| Sosumi | some other users posters are already missing or deleted | Jan 02 12:07 |
| Sosumi | and apparently from what I could guess from checking the forums now | Jan 02 12:08 |
| Sosumi | the lvl of IQ kind of lowered to retarded level | Jan 02 12:08 |
| Sosumi | and yes I'm still indefinitely banned | Jan 02 12:08 |
| Sosumi | whatever that means | Jan 02 12:08 |
| MinceR | doesn't sound like that site's worth wasting resources on | Jan 02 12:09 |
| Sosumi | not anymore | Jan 02 12:09 |
| Sosumi | it wasn't like that before too | Jan 02 12:09 |
| Sosumi | the actually good site for theorycraft | Jan 02 12:10 |
| Sosumi | was macresearch | Jan 02 12:10 |
| Sosumi | but that site died when crapple killed the xserve and the clustering tools | Jan 02 12:10 |
| Sosumi | but it shows how far they can go | Jan 02 12:16 |
| Sosumi | forum trolls, strict review guidelines | Jan 02 12:16 |
| Sosumi | even anand had to put a bit of lipstick on the pig | Jan 02 12:16 |
| Sosumi | so that the next time crapple doesn't forget about him | Jan 02 12:17 |
| Sosumi | just like they did to arstechnica, probably because of the rave of bad propaganda that comes out of there when it comes to the real pro reviews | Jan 02 12:18 |
| Sosumi | and how osx performs on programs like maya, cinema 4d, etc | Jan 02 12:18 |
| Sosumi | and benchmarks on the quadro cards behave on osx, linux and windows | Jan 02 12:19 |
| Sosumi | obvious-ly that osx always loses | Jan 02 12:19 |
| Sosumi | in another not an andrew cunnigham, John siracosa thing | Jan 02 12:20 |
| iophk | old - http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2009/11/04/One-third-of-US-youth-unfit-for-military/UPI-98691257317594/ | Jan 02 12:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.upi.com | One-third of U.S. youth unfit for military - UPI.com [ http://ur1.ca/gb4px ] | Jan 02 12:21 |
| MinceR | that's ok, they already have more military than they need | Jan 02 12:22 |
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| Sosumi | do you know what is the top paid app on the osx store? | Jan 02 13:31 |
| Sosumi | kasperski virus scan | Jan 02 13:31 |
| Sosumi | lol | Jan 02 13:31 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phonearena.com/news/Report-Only-5-of-Korean-LG-G2-owners-received-KitKat-update_id50828 | Jan 02 14:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phonearena.com | Report: Only 5% of Korean LG G2 owners received KitKat update [ http://ur1.ca/gb5a5 ] | Jan 02 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, LG only rolled out the Android 4.4 update to 5% of LG G2 owners in South Korea. | Jan 02 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | It disguised it as a normal update, even though it was really a beta test program. | Jan 02 14:23 |
| DaemonFC | They forced the update on those phones to see if they broke phones that customers who did not agree to participate in a beta testing program were using. | Jan 02 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 02 14:24 |
| DaemonFC | That's not cool. | Jan 02 14:24 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 02 14:25 |
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| DaemonFC | The Android 4.4 update is apparently causing increased battery drain, and bugs with the built-in Android web browser. | Jan 02 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | But LG has declared it "good" anyway, and plans to roll it out to everyone. | Jan 02 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | Are they nuts? | Jan 02 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | They have a phone that everyone loves. They're really going to ship broken firmware? | Jan 02 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | I do want 4.4, but they should delay it by a couple of weeks and fix those problems. | Jan 02 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | Android 4.4 seems to bring along a major performance boost for the system and applications over 4.2.2, but 4.2.2 is very stable. | Jan 02 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | I'd rather have a phone that was 5-10% slower but didn't crash and guzzle the battery. | Jan 02 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | I decided to leave my tablet on Android 4.0.4, for the same reason. | Jan 02 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | Archos abandoned the G9 tablets there, and the unofficial firmware updates like Cyanogenmod will work, but they're known to break things. | Jan 02 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | The latest one even managed to break the camera *and* GPS. | Jan 02 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | I think what happened with LG is that they did a lot of work to make sure everything worked right with the original firmware, because that's the firmware that all the product review websites will be reviewing. | Jan 02 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | Then the quality control standards plummet when it comes time to push upgrades. | Jan 02 14:33 |
| DaemonFC | Of course it would be nicer if there was only one Android image for every device, that users could install themselves. | Jan 02 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | That manages to happen with PC operating systems. | Jan 02 14:35 |
| DaemonFC | There's too many device configurations out there with phones. Almost every major manufacturer even makes their own CPUs. | Jan 02 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | LG is going to start doing this with the LG G3. They're developing a CPU called ODIN. | Jan 02 14:36 |
| DaemonFC | "The Huntington County Sheriff's Department has been chosen as the Business of the Month by the Huntington County Chamber of Commerce." | Jan 02 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I suppose that sticking people with frivolous criminal charges and then letting them go if they can cough up thousands of dollars is a business of sorts. | Jan 02 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | It's called extortion. | Jan 02 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 02 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | Besides, the Huntington Country Sheriff's Department has been so good about picking up people who owe for-profit businesses money and sticking them in the Huntington County Jail, with criminals, over the weekend, with no notice that they have been sued, just to rattle them and make them too afraid to reject any repayment deal that the company (Usually Parkview Hospital) offers them. | Jan 02 14:44 |
| DaemonFC | Gary Snyder found that out. He paid his mortgage late, but the company already asked the judge (Heffelfinger) for a body attachment warrant, so he spent a Friday-Monday in jail a couple of years ago, over a mortgage payment that he had already paid. | Jan 02 14:44 |
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| _Goblin | Look on the bright side though DaemonFC he had free board and lodgings in a guest house for the weekend...that probably saved a few $ on his bills. | Jan 02 15:57 |
| Sosumi | been reading about gallium compute | Jan 02 15:57 |
| Sosumi | and it is still a no go | Jan 02 15:57 |
| _Goblin | I've been writing about francium. | Jan 02 15:57 |
| _Goblin | Unstable element you know... | Jan 02 15:57 |
| Sosumi | apparently amd has been doing good work implementing their opencl stuff | Jan 02 15:57 |
| Sosumi | but nvidia | Jan 02 15:58 |
| Sosumi | forget it | Jan 02 15:58 |
| _Goblin | I get FOSS being ideal for desktop computing or whatever.... What I don't get is the insistence that FOSS can compete with the commercial closed gaming industry.....it can't....sadly. | Jan 02 15:59 |
| Sosumi | it's nvidia not caring, as usual | Jan 02 15:59 |
| Sosumi | foss is great | Jan 02 15:59 |
| Sosumi | no need to suck up to anyone in order to get things fixed | Jan 02 15:59 |
| iophk | http://techland.time.com/2014/01/02/winamp-supposedly-saved-by-radionomy/ | Jan 02 16:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | techland.time.com | Winamp Supposedly Saved by Radionomy | TIME.com [ http://ur1.ca/gb5qk ] | Jan 02 16:07 |
| Sosumi | I still have nightmares of submitting bug reports to apple and not getting anything fixed | Jan 02 16:07 |
| Sosumi | one of those bugs, which was the windowserver failing to load after a restart/cold-boot | Jan 02 16:07 |
| Sosumi | only got fixed 3 years later | Jan 02 16:08 |
| Sosumi | but don't worry, there are new ones | Jan 02 16:10 |
| Sosumi | like the creation and defaulting to a totally "derped" colorsync profile after you wake up the displays | Jan 02 16:11 |
| Sosumi | of which you need to go and manually delete | Jan 02 16:12 |
| Sosumi | and if you don't delete them, well, chances are that you're going to have a ton of random colorsync profiles for your displays | Jan 02 16:13 |
| Sosumi | if it also messes with your colorsync printer preferences I don't know | Jan 02 16:14 |
| Sosumi | since I have no printers configured into that machine | Jan 02 16:15 |
| Sosumi | but hey, that I know, no other OS does that | Jan 02 16:15 |
| Sosumi | and that again justifies the *cough* superiority of the *cough* macintosh | Jan 02 16:16 |
| Sosumi | but you don't see any of this on macrumors or appleinsider | Jan 02 16:16 |
| DaemonFC | _Goblin, : No. They send you a bill for every day you're in jail now. | Jan 02 16:17 |
| Sosumi | users who post this kind of stuff are promptly shown the banhammer | Jan 02 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | And if they don't, they attach a fine to whatever you were charged with. It's in the plea agreement. | Jan 02 16:17 |
| Sosumi | also, fiat just bought chrysler | Jan 02 16:24 |
| Sosumi | wasn't chrysler owned by GM? | Jan 02 16:24 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/windows-8-x-breaks-10-percent-internet-explorer-11-makes-a-splash/ | Jan 02 20:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | Windows 8.x breaks 10 percent, Internet Explorer 11 makes a splash | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gb6rr ] | Jan 02 20:47 |
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| Sosumi | IE still wins (lol) | Jan 02 20:48 |
| Sosumi | very small decrease in mobile safari usage with a very small increase in android browser | Jan 02 20:48 |
| Sosumi | hope that trend continues | Jan 02 20:49 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 02 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | Sosumi: lies | Jan 03 03:42 |
| schestowitz | they omit non-desktop | Jan 03 03:42 |
| schestowitz | typica | Jan 03 03:42 |
| schestowitz | typica L MS spin from Peter Microsoft Bright | Jan 03 03:42 |
| schestowitz | and CBS (MS -funded) | Jan 03 03:42 |
| schestowitz | [21:01] <_Goblin> I get FOSS being ideal for desktop computing or whatever.... What I don't get is the insistence that FOSS can compete with the commercial closed gaming industry.....it can't....sadly. | Jan 03 03:43 |
| schestowitz | FOSS in games is still a weak point | Jan 03 03:44 |
| schestowitz | not many people will have companies fund modificatrion to games like they would for apache | Jan 03 03:44 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz: and I think as I've always said, FOSS gaming whilst it will exist, will not capture the imagination of the mainstream public like commercial offerings.... Funny that certain FOSS advocates away from here reviled me for those remarks.....seems I was right. What I would say though, for anyone with half a brain, it was obvious. | Jan 03 06:20 |
| _Goblin | I'd add by saying a commercial hold over gaming is not a good thing, but unless RMS can approve a FOSS version of something that approaches the appeal of say FIFA...I struggle to see the FOSS ethos being sold on any gamer. | Jan 03 06:21 |
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| MinceR | my favorite game is free software | Jan 03 07:41 |
| MinceR | then again, it's a genre that thrives on mods :> | Jan 03 07:42 |
| roy_ | LOL | Jan 03 08:39 |
| _Goblin | MinceR, whats the game? | Jan 03 08:39 |
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| iophk | http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/01/02/bob-swartz-losing-aaron/print/ | Jan 03 09:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.bostonmagazine.com | Losing Aaron: Bob Swartz on MIT's Role in His Son's Death | Boston Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/gbfay ] | Jan 03 09:14 |
| iophk | http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/238471901.html | Jan 03 09:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.jsonline.com | A suicide's fractured narrative: The death of computer programming whiz Aaron Swartz - JSOnline [ http://ur1.ca/gbfb3 ] | Jan 03 09:16 |
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| Sosumi | it's right on the 1st pie chart | Jan 03 09:21 |
| Sosumi | now if their information gathering is wrong or they are purposefully lying, I don't know that | Jan 03 09:22 |
| Sosumi | what they don't tell you is in which platforms ppl are running their browsers | Jan 03 09:24 |
| Sosumi | surely, android browser, IE and safari are easy guess | Jan 03 09:25 |
| Sosumi | but what was the percentage of firefox users using linux, osx and windows | Jan 03 09:26 |
| Sosumi | same for chrome | Jan 03 09:26 |
| Sosumi | what about other browsers that make use of webkit, gecko and so on, in what systems they were running? I'd like to know | Jan 03 09:27 |
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| Sosumi | probably if someone whines a lot... | Jan 03 09:31 |
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| cubezzz | techrights should look at the Nestle company | Jan 03 09:51 |
| cubezzz | melamine in milk, diluting milk with water, greenwashing, E coli in cookie dough, using massive amounts of Great Lakes water | Jan 03 09:52 |
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| cubezzz | they are now the world's largest food company | Jan 03 09:52 |
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| cubezzz | the amount they pay for Great Lakes water is $3.71 per million litres | Jan 03 09:53 |
| cubezzz | then taxpayers must pay the price of recycling tens of millions of Nestle plastic water bottles | Jan 03 09:54 |
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| Sosumi | nestle, selling bottled water that they didn't pay almost nothing for in the first place | Jan 03 11:06 |
| Sosumi | under the aquarel brand | Jan 03 11:06 |
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| MinceR | _Goblin: Xonotic | Jan 03 11:25 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 03 11:38 |
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| sebsebseb | hey jono ping | Jan 03 14:32 |
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| sebsebseb | jono: I think you may be able to help me out a bit, and would be in your interest | Jan 03 14:32 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3477901 | Jan 03 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1ODc #linux #bluray - for those who need to use physical storage not as 'consumers' | Jan 03 14:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Open-Source Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux [ http://ur1.ca/gbgoi ] | Jan 03 14:55 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Well, now you can." | Jan 03 14:55 |
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| Sosumi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkpHIB9VEuc | Jan 03 17:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.youtube.com | Black Hat USA 2012 - Errata Hits Puberty: 13 Years of Chagrin - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gbhb4 ] | Jan 03 17:04 |
| Sosumi | worth watching | Jan 03 17:04 |
| Sosumi | about charlatans in the industry | Jan 03 17:05 |
| Sosumi | ofc M$, macafee and symantec top the ranks | Jan 03 17:08 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/1/4791354/samsung-rigging-benchmark-scores-galaxy-note-3 | Jan 03 17:15 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theverge.com | Samsung again caught rigging benchmark scores on Galaxy Note 3 | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/gbhcg ] | Jan 03 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung's devices overclock themselves long enough to run the benchmark, and then return the CPU to its normal operating speeds. | Jan 03 17:15 |
| Sosumi | lol samsung at it again | Jan 03 17:33 |
| Sosumi | I thought they had given up on that on the note | Jan 03 17:34 |
| MinceR | i think this is the same old news, isn't it? | Jan 03 17:38 |
| MinceR | apparently not | Jan 03 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | Wouldn't it be less embarrassing to just admit your phone sucks and then design a better one next time? | Jan 03 17:44 |
| MinceR | afaict it's on par with its rivals without the cheating | Jan 03 17:48 |
| MinceR | making it an even stupider move, of course | Jan 03 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | The S4 is not on par with the Nexus 5 or LG G2 | Jan 03 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | They're newer and have newer processors, but the S4 is still on the market and is about the same price. | Jan 03 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why people would buy the slower phone at the same price. | Jan 03 17:50 |
| MinceR | i was referring to the note3 | Jan 03 17:50 |
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| MinceR | and newer phones being faster shouldn't be a surprise :> | Jan 03 17:51 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3479508 | Jan 03 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Hayden (CIA) thinks reporting crimes is "outrageous" http://t.co/648KosPopq probably just afraid people will blow whistle on him | Jan 03 17:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.techdirt.com | Michael Hayden Calls Clemency For Snowden 'Outrageous,' Says It Sends 'Wrong Message' To Potential Whistleblowers | Techdirt | Jan 03 17:51 |
| schestowitz | "Why isn't Hayden up on treason charges for lying to Congress?" | Jan 03 17:52 |
| schestowitz | He would probably use the CIA to assassinate whoever tries to hold him accountable | Jan 03 17:52 |
| MinceR | (who would have thought that 4 arm cores at 2.26 GHz would be faster than 4 arm cores at 1.6 GHz?) | Jan 03 17:53 |
| MinceR | (if i'm not mistaken, this is the octa-core thing that wouldn't use more than 4 cores at the same time, perhaps because they couldn't dissipate that much heat) | Jan 03 17:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3476124 | Jan 03 17:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: | Jan 03 17:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by bratze@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_df0ec1483bde1ac870c1.gif | Jan 03 17:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by bratze@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_df0ec1483bde1ac870c1.gif | Jan 03 17:55 |
| schestowitz | "What's that dude in the background doing to that other dude...?" | Jan 03 17:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's not cool! | Jan 03 17:56 |
| MinceR | :> | Jan 03 17:56 |
| schestowitz | http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/71751684734/serious-question-seriously-was-george-carlin-ever | Jan 03 17:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | lessig.tumblr.com | Lessig Blog, v2 [ http://ur1.ca/gbhky ] | Jan 03 17:58 |
| Sosumi | wait | Jan 03 18:17 |
| Sosumi | the note 3 uses the same snapdragon 800 as the G3 and nexus 5 | Jan 03 18:17 |
| Sosumi | in a 3GB ram package | Jan 03 18:17 |
| Sosumi | the s4 is the old device | Jan 03 18:18 |
| Sosumi | and they were caught cheating on that one first | Jan 03 18:18 |
| Sosumi | that was why I mentioned "that they were still cheating" | Jan 03 18:18 |
| Sosumi | *G2 | Jan 03 18:19 |
| MinceR | yeah, i eventually realized | Jan 03 18:21 |
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| Sosumi | schestowitz, what does BT stand for? | Jan 03 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link. | Jan 03 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | 2 seconds ago | Jan 03 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, LG doesn't have a voluntary beta testing program. If they want you to be a beta tester, they will forcibly update your working phone with unproven software. Boo! | Jan 03 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | While I'd like to see Android 4.4 for my G2 ASAP, it's improper to use paying customers that did not sign up for a beta testing program as unwilling participants in a beta testing program. | Jan 03 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | It seems that LG is ignoring their complaints of problems with the built-in web browser and increased battery usage, and plans to release this build to all LG G2 users anyway. It would be better if they nailed down the problems before sending the software out, even if it took an additional 2-3 weeks. Rushing out broken firmware to a phone that got five star reviews and costs over $600 is not going to make people want to return and buy the LG | Jan 03 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | G3 or G4 in the future. | Jan 03 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | Now I don't know whether to accept the update or delete the notification and continue using Android 4.2.2. I might just wait and see what it does to other people's phones before I jump in. | Jan 03 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how LG could screw up Android 4.4 so badly on their own G2 phone, when they did such an excellent job with Android 4.4 on the Nexus 5, which is basically the same phone. | Jan 03 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | The G2 is better in a couple of ways. | Jan 03 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | Better battery capacity and a slightly larger screen. | Jan 03 20:34 |
| DaemonFC | You'd think that they could just reuse the same ROM that they're using on the Nexus 5. | Jan 03 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | The hardware is basically the same. | Jan 03 20:40 |
| MinceR | they don't, though | Jan 03 20:41 |
| MinceR | the nexus 5 gets a mostly stock ROM | Jan 03 20:41 |
| MinceR | and the g2 gets a custom one with extra software features | Jan 03 20:41 |
| DaemonFC | The G2 seems to be mostly stock. | Jan 03 20:41 |
| MinceR | also, the g2 has a microsd card slot | Jan 03 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint added like one program to it though, that you can't remove. | Jan 03 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | I disabled it though. | Jan 03 20:42 |
| MinceR | afaik stock android doesn't support removable storage at all | Jan 03 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | You can opt-in to an advertisement system that screws Google and app developers over, and makes a ton of money for Sprint. | Jan 03 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 03 20:42 |
| MinceR | what about qslide and the rest? | Jan 03 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | I opted out and then disabled the program. | Jan 03 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | Is qslide not an Android feature? | Jan 03 20:43 |
| MinceR | no | Jan 03 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I suppose they also had to add their own enhancement to control the IR blaster. | Jan 03 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | The Nexus 5 doesn't have that. | Jan 03 20:43 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jan 03 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | OK, so it's basically stock android, but they added the qslide and IR blaster programs, and then Sprint added one piece of crapware that I disabled. | Jan 03 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 03 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | I could root the phone and delete that app, but then that would void my hardware warranty. | Jan 03 20:44 |
| MinceR | "AnswerMe (which automatically answers a call if the device is held up to a user's head), customizable on-screen buttons, Plug & Pop (which displays a menu of relevant apps when a headset or USB cable is plugged in), Guest Mode, Slide Aside (the ability to switch apps using a three-finger slide gesture that displays a row of cards), and TextLink (which provides options when text is copied depending on the content). The G2 also retains software featu | Jan 03 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | Disabling it frees the resources it was using and doesn't void the warranty. | Jan 03 20:45 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I haven't even seen AnswerMe, | Jan 03 21:59 |
| MinceR | :) | Jan 03 21:59 |
| MinceR | neither have i. | Jan 03 22:00 |
| MinceR | (except on wikipedia) | Jan 03 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Sprint keeps annoying me, trying to do bill cramming. | Jan 03 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | I keep declining. | Jan 03 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | They offered me antivirus software for an extra $2.99 per month and voicemail transcription for $1.99 a month. | Jan 03 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see the point in having either one. | Jan 03 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | One of Google's lead Android developers said that Android antivirus programs were unnecessary and dishonest. Makes me wonder why Google tolerates them in the Play store. | Jan 03 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | There's not that much malware for Android. Most of it is kept out of the Play store. The "better" antivirus software that does exist misses two out of three malicious apps. | Jan 03 22:02 |
| MinceR | they probably don't consider them a threat to google | Jan 03 22:02 |
| MinceR | or to android | Jan 03 22:02 |
| MinceR | also, removing them could lead to backlash. | Jan 03 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | Well, the Android section on The Pirate Bay is full of malicious apps. | Jan 03 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | But you'd kind of expect that. | Jan 03 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | Google does a good job of keeping it out of their own store. | Jan 03 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know why removing apps that don't do anything except defraud you of money and make your phone run slower would lead to backlash against Google. :) | Jan 03 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | Those antivirus apps fit the definition of malware. | Jan 03 22:04 |
| MinceR | because some people don't believe google when they say antivirus software is unnecessary | Jan 03 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | They scare you into paying them, make your phone run slower, and steal your personal info and send it back to the developer. :) | Jan 03 22:04 |
| MinceR | they would see it as a pro-malware move | Jan 03 22:04 |
| MinceR | do the big name "antivirus" apps really do that, though? | Jan 03 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pretty sure that they do. | Jan 03 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | I've heard people complain about AVG and Lookout bogging their phones down. | Jan 03 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | So it seems like you get the "Windows" experience on Android now, if you install those apps. :) | Jan 03 22:06 |
| MinceR | i mean, do they send personal info to the developer? | Jan 03 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Their Windows programs do. | Jan 03 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Why wouldn't their Android apps do the same thing? | Jan 03 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | The basic level of functionality is free with the Windows app, but the main point of the free version is to scare you into buying the full version. | Jan 03 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | They'll say that you're not protected against identity theft or some nonsense like that. | Jan 03 22:09 |
| MinceR | ic | Jan 03 22:10 |
| MinceR | then again, google can't really complain about apps sending personal info to the developer, can they? :) | Jan 03 22:11 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 03 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | The irony was not lost on me when two antivirus companies based in the Czech Republic claim to require your credit card number in order to protect you from identity fraud. | Jan 03 23:03 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3479918 | Jan 04 05:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @linux@joindiaspora.com: The rise of GNU/Linux-powered mobile OSes in 2013 http://www.muktware.com/2013/12/rise-gnulinux-powered-mobile-oses-2013/18568 | Jan 04 05:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | The rise of GNU/Linux-powered mobile OSes in 2013 | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gbrr8 ] | Jan 04 05:01 |
| schestowitz | "Although, I'm not sure many of these could be called GNU/Linux, but */Linux." | Jan 04 05:01 |
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| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/file-sharing-boosts-creation-of-hit-music-research-finds-140102/ | Jan 04 06:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | File-Sharing Boosts Creation of New Hit Music, Research Finds | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gbs84 ] | Jan 04 06:06 |
| iophk | 'industry' != musicians | Jan 04 06:07 |
| iophk | http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/01/internet-streaming-music-record-industry | Jan 04 06:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Internet streaming won't save music – the record industry still relies on hits | Media | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gbs8p ] | Jan 04 06:07 |
| iophk | http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/secops-failure-gpggmail-on-osx-mavericks-may-store-unencrypted-drafts/ | Jan 04 06:08 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | arstechnica.com | SecOps failure: GPG+Gmail on OSX Mavericks may store unencrypted drafts | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gbs8u ] | Jan 04 06:08 |
| iophk | http://torrentfreak.com/simpsons-pirate-ordered-to-pay-fox-10-5-million-in-damages-140102/ | Jan 04 06:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | torrentfreak.com | Simpsons Pirate Ordered to Pay Fox $10.5 Million in Damages | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gbsjg ] | Jan 04 06:32 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1NjA | Jan 04 10:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Debian Still Debating Systemd vs. Upstart Init System [ http://ur1.ca/gbxg8 ] | Jan 04 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | Former Canonical employees are trying to steer them into using Upstart. | Jan 04 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | What community? There is no community. There is one company that maintains it, and they have a Contributor License Agreement that assigns them the right to make a proprietary version of it. | Jan 04 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | If Debian adopts Upstart, they will either have to immediately fork it the moment they want to improve anything about it, or they will sign Ubuntu's CLA and agree that Debian's work on Upstart can be turned into proprietary software someday. | Jan 04 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2013/12/msg00234.html | Jan 04 10:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | lists.debian.org | Bug#727708: init system other points, and conclusion [ http://ur1.ca/gbxjs ] | Jan 04 10:24 |
| DaemonFC | LOL @ OpenRC | Jan 04 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | Manual? What manual? | Jan 04 10:25 |
| DaemonFC | It's not like you're going to need to know how to use the software. :) | Jan 04 10:25 |
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| DaemonFC | Comcast messed up my bill again. I was offered $29.99 a month for 12 months, and they actually billed me $59.95 this month. | Jan 04 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | None of them seem to know what they're doing. | Jan 04 11:32 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481449 | Jan 04 13:36 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The NSA lies about guarding national interests, unless this nation is ownership of just hundreds of men, not hundreds of millions | Jan 04 13:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy | Jan 04 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.theguardian.com | Revealed: how the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gc05e ] | Jan 04 13:37 |
| schestowitz | https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.html | Jan 04 13:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.gnu.org | Did You Say “Intellectual Property”? It's a Seductive Mirage - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/gc05g ] | Jan 04 13:37 |
| schestowitz | "I'm afraid that is how they really view things but might be confused and think of the company and brand names instead of the owners. We have seen this in Cablegate, where specific companies were favored as the US national interest. We also see it in the crackdown on OWS, where state, local and federal agencies came together at "fusion centers" to work with banks to crush the protests. Surely the people in those centers around the | Jan 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz | country confused the bank's interest with the national interest. We also see it in ludicrous copyright and "intellectual property" legislation that confuses big publisher and brand names with national interest. Owners of these brand names do a good job of hiding their interest by pretending the brands serve employees and the economy but their employees are treated worse than slaves. This is very harmful, leaders help these owners by | Jan 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz | oppressing everyone else and think they are doing something good for everyone." | Jan 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz | "How to reshare with comment?" | Jan 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz | Repost. I will start. | Jan 04 13:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy | Jan 04 13:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481398 | Jan 04 13:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Criminalising poverty http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/jan/04/buy-to-let-landlord-evicts-housing-benefit-tenants #uk | Jan 04 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.theguardian.com | Buy-to-let property supremo shuts door on housing benefit tenants | Money | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gc06e ] | Jan 04 13:40 |
| schestowitz | "unHappy New Year." | Jan 04 13:40 |
| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3482133 | Jan 04 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | Will Hill: "I'm a... [ http://ur1.ca/gc06m ] | Jan 04 13:40 |
| schestowitz | htts://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3482133 | Jan 04 13:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.joindiaspora.com/p/3482133 | Jan 04 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | Will Hill: "I'm a... | Jan 04 13:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.joindiaspora.com/p/3482133 | Jan 04 13:40 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3480303 | Jan 04 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The drones which today indiscriminately kill... history of the technology as children’s toys, not weapons." http://www.globalresearch.ca/haiti-drones-and-slavery/5363582?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=haiti-drones-and-slavery | Jan 04 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.globalresearch.ca | Haiti: Drones and Slavery | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gc09m ] | Jan 04 13:45 |
| schestowitz | "Yes, but I love my toys." | Jan 04 13:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3479721 | Jan 04 13:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blocking: what could possibly go wrong? https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/blocking-what-could-possibly-go-wrong blocking truth, too http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/71751684734/serious-question-seriously-was-george-carlin-ever | Jan 04 13:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - Blocking: what could possibly go wrong? [ http://ur1.ca/gbrqt ] | Jan 04 13:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> lessig.tumblr.com | Lessig Blog, v2 [ http://ur1.ca/gbhky ] | Jan 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz | "Better to have Open Spectrum and really decentralize communications." | Jan 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz | This might facilitate - GASP - protests or marches | Jan 04 13:46 |
| schestowitz | This might facilitate - GASP - protests or marches | Jan 04 13:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3481248 | Jan 04 13:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: | Jan 04 13:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by dubbelmubbel@despora.de: https://despora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ef950bbe9f3f29c4a8b1.jpeg | Jan 04 13:47 |
| schestowitz | "you should also research the effects that Geo-engineering has on the changes of our climate - you'd be surprised to learn how easily our weather is manipulated" | Jan 04 13:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3480163 | Jan 04 13:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Espionage relies on ability to "crack the codes of banking, medical, business and government codes around the world" http://www.muktware.com/2014/01/nsa-secretly-funds-quantum-computer-research-break-global-codes/18715 | Jan 04 13:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.muktware.com | NSA secretly funds quantum computer research to break global codes | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gbrqm ] | Jan 04 13:47 |
| schestowitz | "What a perfect metaphor for the whole problem and the solution. The D-Wave quantum computers already bought and being tested, work at doing what their masters bid them, but only as long as the process of their calculations aren't observed. If we can ensure that they're kept under observation, they're incapable of creating harm." | Jan 04 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the US is under extreme cold right now. | Jan 04 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | The temperature where I'm at will drop to about 20 degrees below zero (F) on Monday night. | Jan 04 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad I had them switch me over to 5w30 motor oil before winter hit. | Jan 04 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | 10w30 would give me a serious fight if I tried to start my car at that temperature. | Jan 04 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | I used to use 10w30 year round and never had a problem with it until just the last few years. | Jan 04 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://qz.com/131436/contrary-to-what-youve-heard-android-is-almost-impenetrable-to-malware/ | Jan 04 14:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | qz.com | Contrary to what you’ve heard, Android is almost impenetrable to malware – Quartz [ http://ur1.ca/fy2nv ] | Jan 04 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | Google says that even if you're installing apps from outside the Play store, you're still pretty safe. | Jan 04 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | 1,200 per million app installs from outside the play store are "potentially malicious", or about 0.12%. | Jan 04 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | And "potentially malicious" doesn't necessarily mean malicious. | Jan 04 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them are just rooting apps or request odd permissions that malware might need. | Jan 04 14:28 |
| MinceR | and there are more lines of defense than the play store | Jan 04 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | Well, Google introduced Verify Apps in Android 4.2. | Jan 04 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | It's basically a built in malware detector. | Jan 04 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | It will warn you and prevent the app from installing if it believes the behavior is potentially malicious. | Jan 04 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | Or if it's on Google's list of bad apps. | Jan 04 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | You can override it. | Jan 04 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | The permissions that you really need to worry about are obviously going to be "make phone calls" and "send SMS messages". | Jan 04 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | Almost half of all actual malware sends SMS messages and phone calls to "premium numbers" to bill fraudulant charges to your phone bill. | Jan 04 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | They also text copies of themselves to other people in your phone's contact list. | Jan 04 14:31 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the Android malware scare traces back to companies that want to sell you antivirus subscriptions, or have ties to Microsoft or Apple. | Jan 04 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | If it makes you sleep better to waste $3 a month on antivirus subscriptions, then I guess you can go for it. | Jan 04 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 04 14:38 |
| DaemonFC | I try to avoid being nickel and dimed like that. | Jan 04 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | I've counted several ways that Sprint tries to tack on an extra $1-2-3 onto your bill for a la carte services. | Jan 04 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | I guess you really can't blame them. They are a business, and their goal is to make money. | Jan 04 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | Their monthly subscription price for voice, text, and data is pretty reasonable. | Jan 04 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | They're obviously looking for little things they can bill you extra for to make up for the low monthly price. | Jan 04 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | I hate antivirus companies, period. | Jan 04 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | One of the best things about getting rid of Windows is that there's no $50 a year antivirus subscription. | Jan 04 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | Over 10 years, you save $500 on that alone. | Jan 04 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gizmondo | Jan 04 14:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | en.wikipedia.org | Gizmondo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jan 04 14:45 |
| DaemonFC | I remember these. A lot of tech magazines said it was going to be huge, and then they ended up selling less than 25,000 of them and going under. | Jan 04 14:46 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482178 | Jan 04 15:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Oracle refuses to even distance itself from #nsa leaks, allegations. Ellison openly supports NSA, has CIA past.Why trust MySQL, Unbreakable? | Jan 04 15:17 |
| schestowitz | "And why trust oracle Java? :P" | Jan 04 15:17 |
| schestowitz | I didn't want to list a comprehensive list of Oracle products | Jan 04 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482254 | Jan 04 15:18 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Common myths in British minds: blacks inclined t/w violence, race is economic condition, low wages not an injustice, privatisation is good | Jan 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | "30 yrs of Thatcherism?" | Jan 04 15:18 |
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| schestowitz | "If there were no correlation between race and SES, it would not be regarded as an economic condition. But I'm pretty sure that's not what you're talking about." | Jan 04 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle has two selling points for "Unbreakable". | Jan 04 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | Lower support costs and it's tuned to run their own software faster. | Jan 04 15:20 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3477901 | Jan 04 15:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1ODc #linux #bluray - for those who need to use physical storage not as 'consumers' | Jan 04 15:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Open-Source Blu-ray Decryption Library For Linux [ http://ur1.ca/gbgoi ] | Jan 04 15:21 |
| schestowitz | "VHS is a superior format in many respects. Still better than DVD, Flash media and hard drives. I set up my Raspberry Pi with OpenELEC today. Played an old Samurai movie from a flash drive. So you can really treat DVDs like temporary, or backup media. Just rip it to a HDD, SSD, or flash drive. At least it won't fuck up when you scratch it. Still, as bad as DVDs are, the place where media is getting the nastiest is online. It's where | Jan 04 15:21 |
| schestowitz | the industry is moving." | Jan 04 15:21 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: | Jan 04 15:52 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: | Jan 04 15:53 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: | Jan 04 15:53 |
| MinceR | Jan 04 15:53 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: this event isn't looking very hopeful for merchandice | Jan 04 15:54 |
| sebsebseb | for freebies | Jan 04 15:54 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: openSUSE stuff and that's about it reay it's looking like | Jan 04 15:54 |
| MinceR | no surprise | Jan 04 15:54 |
| sebsebseb | I can't just gget Ubuntu stuff from the UK rep for example | Jan 04 15:54 |
| sebsebseb | and Mint I don't think has anything suitable realy anyway and is probaby hard to get something from | Jan 04 15:55 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/lastwheel/status/419581014084562944 | Jan 04 16:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @lastwheel: @schestowitz I disagree. It's a very interesting question and response. Obv the asker was hoping to trip Assange up. I laughed too. | Jan 04 16:32 |
| schestowitz | They can be implicated in charges and they follow legal advice. No surprise there. Appelbaum returns to US. | Jan 04 16:33 |
| DaemonFC | shared Occupy Democrats's photo. | Jan 04 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | 4 minutes ago · Edited | Jan 04 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p526x296/1554369_567620163331042_1677805345_n.jpg | Jan 04 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | My question is... If this is allowed to go through, then when will the Supreme Court strike down the minimum wage because it goes against Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | Hobby Lobby can't be allowed to argue successfully that corporations are people with religious beliefs, or there will be a terrible anti-worker precedent that will be set, with no end in sight. | Jan 04 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | When do they get to stop paying overtime because it's against the Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | When do they get to turn away health and safety inspectors because public safety regulations are against their Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 16:34 |
| DaemonFC | When do they get to turn away Environmental Protection Agency inspectors because pollution control laws violate the Corporate Religion? | Jan 04 16:35 |
| DaemonFC | Corporations only have one belief. That belief is that they should do anything that they can get away with in order to make more money. Corporations are not concerned about the standard of living of their workers. Corporations are not concerned about polluting our environment. Corporations don't care about anything except making more money. | Jan 04 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | Fines usually don't stop them from breaking the law. They see breaking the law as a "calculated risk". They weigh the amount of money that lawbreaking will make for them against the possibility of being caught and the size of the fine. | Jan 04 16:39 |
| DaemonFC | In modern times, the government doesn't generally go looking, and when they do, the fine is far less than the illegally obtained profit. | Jan 04 16:39 |
| Sosumi | oracle itself is a CIA creation | Jan 04 16:47 |
| Sosumi | no surprise in Larry supporting the multiple programs | Jan 04 16:47 |
| Sosumi | *snooping programs | Jan 04 16:48 |
| DaemonFC | about a minute ago | Jan 04 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | So, since Comcast basically lied to me about the price I would be paying, to get me off of the phone, and to increase that lying agent's retention count, I've been going over my options. | Jan 04 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint will sell you 5 GB of tethering, but it comes at an additional cost of $30 a month. So, that's not going to be a replacement for my cable internet. | Jan 04 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | There are a few options to tether without your carrier granting permission or even knowing that you're doing it, and then you can take advantage of your unlimited 4G LTE data plan. | Jan 04 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | The options are not all that appealing to me. | Jan 04 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | One is to install an app like PDANet or Fox-Fi. They have a one time fee of about $15 to use their fully featured wifi hotspot tethering functionality. OK. No big deal. Compared with paying Comcast $60-something a month, a one time fee of $15 is a bargain. But, the catch seems to be that you have to install some kind of proprietary computer software onto your PC. That software only seems to exist for Mac OS and Windows, and I don't have any | Jan 04 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | computers that run those operating systems, and I really don't want to use either of them. Furthermore, there's no telling if the data that you route through that application is secure. It would be pretty easy to launch a man in the middle attack on it. And, it appears that some protocols that I use heavily, like bittorrent, are not supported at all. | Jan 04 16:52 |
| DaemonFC | So, that's out of the question. | Jan 04 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | The other option would be to root my phone and install the CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android alternative firmware onto it. I like the idea of CyanogenMod and Paranoid Android, but rooting the phone and replacing the firmware automatically voids both the phone's warranty and Sprint's damage/loss/theft insurance. Besides, I don't even know if either firmware will work on my phone. | Jan 04 16:53 |
| DaemonFC | So it looks like the only option is to keep paying Comcast. If anyone has another idea, I'm all ears. | Jan 04 16:53 |
| Sosumi | no other ISP? | Jan 04 16:58 |
| Sosumi | and how can you be paying $60 a month for some internet only line | Jan 04 16:59 |
| Sosumi | makes no sense | Jan 04 16:59 |
| MinceR | is there no DSL or something? | Jan 04 16:59 |
| Sosumi | that in here gets you unlimited calls, tv with mainstream channels and 12MB internet | Jan 04 17:00 |
| Sosumi | on a dsl service, it is 34€ for an enterprise line with free calls for landline | Jan 04 17:01 |
| Sosumi | on copper | Jan 04 17:01 |
| Sosumi | better check what's around | Jan 04 17:02 |
| Sosumi | for a better alternative | Jan 04 17:02 |
| Sosumi | comcast(astrophic) | Jan 04 17:03 |
| Snowleaksange | 160 usd for tv,internet,phone from comcast for me | Jan 04 17:04 |
| schestowitz | [21:50] <Sosumi> oracle itself is a CIA creation | Jan 04 17:04 |
| schestowitz | Not directly, but yes | Jan 04 17:04 |
| Sosumi | in-q-tel | Jan 04 17:05 |
| schestowitz | to be pedantic, I think CIA benkrolled it by becoming a large costumer | Jan 04 17:05 |
| schestowitz | the CIA funding body also funds all sorts of DB companies | Jan 04 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Not necessarily because it wants to use them to hoard data itself | Jan 04 17:05 |
| schestowitz | it can find ways to take over data of users of those DB techs | Jan 04 17:05 |
| schestowitz | *customer | Jan 04 17:05 |
| schestowitz | Same for Amazon ATM | Jan 04 17:06 |
| schestowitz | !google bezos washpo cia | Jan 04 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - 26,000 Sign Petition Demanding Washington Post Disclose Bezos ... | http://www.occupy.com/article/26000-sign-petition-demanding-washington-post-disclose-bezos-amazon%25E2%2580%2599s-cia-ties | Jan 04 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - CIA Cloud Over Jeff Bezos's Washington Post | Accuracy.Org | http://www.accuracy.org/release/cia-cloud-over-jeff-bezoss-washington-post/ | Jan 04 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Jeff Bezos Is Doing Huge Business with the CIA, While Keeping His ... | http://www.alternet.org/media/owner-washington-post-doing-business-cia-while-keeping-his-readers-dark | Jan 04 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Washington Post Urged to Disclose New Owner's CIA Ties | http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/sectors/item/17261-washington-post-urged-to-disclose-new-owner-s-cia-ties | Jan 04 17:06 |
| schestowitz | !google amazon wikileaks | Jan 04 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - WikiLeaks website pulled by Amazon after US political pressure ... | http://www.theguardian.com/media/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-website-cables-servers-amazon | Jan 04 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - WikiLeaks - Amazon Web Services | http://aws.amazon.com/message/65348/ | Jan 04 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - WikiLeaks: Inside Julian Assange's War on Secrecy ... - Amazon.com | http://www.amazon.com/WikiLeaks-Inside-Julian-Assanges-Secrecy/dp/B0057D9LJG | Jan 04 17:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - How Lieberman Got Amazon To Drop Wikileaks - Talking Points Memo | http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/how-lieberman-got-amazon-to-drop-wikileaks | Jan 04 17:06 |
| Sosumi | yes I know the about the amazon deal | Jan 04 17:06 |
| schestowitz | brb | Jan 04 17:08 |
| DaemonFC | Snowleaksange,I'm supposed to be paying about $80 after equipment rental and taxes. | Jan 04 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | But I managed to get it down to about $64 by bitching. | Jan 04 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | Still too much. | Jan 04 17:12 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I could have them drop me down to their 3 Mbps tier. That would be $29.99 + $8 a month for the equipment rental. | Jan 04 17:13 |
| Snowleaksange | seems im getting ripped off | Jan 04 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | Between my rent and cable internet going up, that's already wiped out my raise. | Jan 04 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 04 17:15 |
| Sosumi | you are, big time too | Jan 04 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | Now I have to deal with everything else going up as well | Jan 04 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know we can be told that inflation is only 1.5%. | Jan 04 17:15 |
| DaemonFC | What the fuck only went up by 1.5%? | Jan 04 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't food. It wasn't gas. It wasn't housing. It wasn't utilities. | Jan 04 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | Sure as hell wasn't the cable. | Jan 04 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'm glad I have my rewards credit card at least. | Jan 04 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | I can claw a little bit back out of the bastards with that. | Jan 04 17:16 |
| Snowleaksange | 144 for HD starter bundle | Jan 04 17:17 |
| Snowleaksange | 20 bux for hbo and streampix | Jan 04 17:17 |
| Snowleaksange | 7 bux for internet | Jan 04 17:18 |
| Snowleaksange | free phone service | Jan 04 17:18 |
| DaemonFC | When Comcast says free, it means check your wallet. | Jan 04 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | And your asshole. | Jan 04 17:21 |
| Sosumi | I don't see why bother with cable | Jan 04 17:21 |
| Sosumi | tv is crap anyways | Jan 04 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | Because DSL is the only other option. | Jan 04 17:21 |
| DaemonFC | I don't subscribe to cable TV or phone. | Jan 04 17:22 |
| Sosumi | and there are internet feeds anyways | Jan 04 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | Why would I? | Jan 04 17:22 |
| Sosumi | dsl | Jan 04 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | First of all, I have this thing called a smartphone. | Jan 04 17:22 |
| Sosumi | seems just fine | Jan 04 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | So why would I pay Comcast an extra $20-30 to provide a landline that doesn't go anywhere? | Jan 04 17:22 |
| Snowleaksange | im watching nfl playoffs atm, and watch hbo shows | Jan 04 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | That's what bittorrent is for. | Jan 04 17:22 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jan 04 17:22 |
| Sosumi | piratebay baby | Jan 04 17:23 |
| Sosumi | :) | Jan 04 17:23 |
| Snowleaksange | i dont like pirating shows | Jan 04 17:23 |
| Snowleaksange | ive pirated shows that got cancelled before | Jan 04 17:23 |
| Sosumi | *sharing | Jan 04 17:23 |
| Sosumi | it is called sharing | Jan 04 17:23 |
| DaemonFC | What's not to like? It's free and there are no commercials. | Jan 04 17:23 |
| Snowleaksange | like abc's Invasion that only ran for 1 series | Jan 04 17:23 |
| Sosumi | someone recorded it and decided to share it with the world | Jan 04 17:24 |
| Snowleaksange | was really upset when it got cancelled | Jan 04 17:24 |
| Snowleaksange | but i realized i wasnt supporting it | Jan 04 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | I don't feel bad for them at all. | Jan 04 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | If they wanted to, they could bypass the cable company and stream it for free with their own ads, and they'd make more money. | Jan 04 17:24 |
| DaemonFC | The cable company is an anachronism. It's like paying a company to deliver ice with a horse-drawn cart. | Jan 04 17:25 |
| Sosumi | direct stream through the internet | Jan 04 17:25 |
| Sosumi | with their own adds | Jan 04 17:25 |
| Sosumi | or a paid version with 0 adds | Jan 04 17:25 |
| Snowleaksange | i can also afford it | Jan 04 17:26 |
| Snowleaksange | i think pirating is fine for college kids without money | Jan 04 17:26 |
| Sosumi | I can too | Jan 04 17:26 |
| Sosumi | but that doesn't mean the I like to be raped | Jan 04 17:26 |
| Snowleaksange | they dont have anything to lose from getting sued so they may as well | Jan 04 17:26 |
| Sosumi | in the wallet | Jan 04 17:26 |
| Snowleaksange | dont understand that metaphor | Jan 04 17:27 |
| Sosumi | you're overpaying | Jan 04 17:28 |
| Sosumi | for what you are getting | Jan 04 17:28 |
| Snowleaksange | thats debatable | Jan 04 17:29 |
| Snowleaksange | would you agree that pirating is underpaying? | Jan 04 17:29 |
| Sosumi | *sharing is ok | Jan 04 17:29 |
| Sosumi | buying the boxed show is and also sharing is ok | Jan 04 17:30 |
| Snowleaksange | sharing is when you have legal right to do so | Jan 04 17:30 |
| Snowleaksange | pirating is when you "share" without right to | Jan 04 17:31 |
| Sosumi | once you bought you have the right to do whatever you want you want with it | Jan 04 17:31 |
| Snowleaksange | not legally | Jan 04 17:32 |
| Sosumi | and you as conscious person who thinks you're being unfairly subjected to some terms of services | Jan 04 17:32 |
| Sosumi | break them | Jan 04 17:32 |
| Snowleaksange | i believe in a society of laws | Jan 04 17:33 |
| Sosumi | it wasn't legal for the US to break from british control | Jan 04 17:33 |
| Sosumi | yet... | Jan 04 17:33 |
| Sosumi | nor it is legal to bomb foreign countries into smitherins | Jan 04 17:34 |
| Sosumi | like libya, iraq, afghanistan, somalia, etc | Jan 04 17:34 |
| Snowleaksange | everyone has to choose for themselves the laws theyre willing to break for reasons theyre willing to break them | Jan 04 17:34 |
| Sosumi | exactly | Jan 04 17:34 |
| Sosumi | and this model of content distribution needs to change | Jan 04 17:35 |
| Sosumi | and adapt with the times | Jan 04 17:35 |
| Sosumi | or just die | Jan 04 17:35 |
| Sosumi | it's natural selection | Jan 04 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | I don't see anything wrong with pirating if you have no money. | Jan 04 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | It's certainly not a lost sale if you don't have any money in the budget to pay them, | Jan 04 17:37 |
| Sosumi | then why not a direct feed from the content creator | Jan 04 17:38 |
| Sosumi | with adds | Jan 04 17:38 |
| Snowleaksange | yeah i agree w that, as i said | Jan 04 17:38 |
| Sosumi | for "pirating" you are already payinh for internet I assume | Jan 04 17:38 |
| Sosumi | and the content makers would still be cashing some €€€ | Jan 04 17:39 |
| Snowleaksange | what do you guys think of China's approach to intellectual property rights? | Jan 04 17:40 |
| Sosumi | you mean the fake mockups model? | Jan 04 17:40 |
| Snowleaksange | well i mean just not enforcing at all | Jan 04 17:41 |
| Sosumi | well if that is the case | Jan 04 17:42 |
| Sosumi | then it is ok | Jan 04 17:42 |
| Sosumi | let the content creators sort things out through competition in order to get sales | Jan 04 17:42 |
| Sosumi | instead of sitting on their lazy asses cashing on stuff | Jan 04 17:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482545 | Jan 04 17:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Not enough money for health and education, but "Pentagon Spending Over $1 Trillion on the F-35 Fighter J" http://www.dailyfinance.com/2014/01/04/drones-are-the-future-of-war-so-why-is-the-pentago/ | Jan 04 17:43 |
| schestowitz | "For the security! Why does nobody get this? #irony" | Jan 04 17:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> www.dailyfinance.com | Drones Are the Future of War, So Why Is the Pentagon Spending Over $1 Trillion on the F-35 Fighter J - DailyFinance [ http://ur1.ca/gc2q4 ] | Jan 04 17:43 |
| Sosumi | schestowitz, the f35 is the new comanche | Jan 04 17:44 |
| Sosumi | it'll be canceled in the end | Jan 04 17:44 |
| Sosumi | plus, the airplane conception, in the way that it is being handled will mean that all they're going to get is flying turd | Jan 04 17:45 |
| Sosumi | of which even a f16 will be able to outmaneuver | Jan 04 17:45 |
| Sosumi | not to mention drones | Jan 04 17:46 |
| Sosumi | drones and drone barges are the future | Jan 04 17:46 |
| Sosumi | because of the lack of need to submit pilots to g forces | Jan 04 17:46 |
| Sosumi | and the possibility to construct smaller airplanes OR planes with higher payloads | Jan 04 17:47 |
| Sosumi | I said that for the first time in 2003 | Jan 04 17:47 |
| Sosumi | after playing freelancer :) | Jan 04 17:48 |
| Sosumi | simply because it actually made sense | Jan 04 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to go to ALDI real quick before the snowstorm gets here. | Jan 04 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | Subzero temps and a foot of snow. | Jan 04 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Jan 04 17:48 |
| Sosumi | at least in my 13 years old head | Jan 04 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | I should probably get at least a week's worth of food. | Jan 04 17:49 |
| Sosumi | DaemonFC, in which part of the US are you in? | Jan 04 17:49 |
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| DaemonFC | northern Indiana | Jan 04 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | Near Fort Wayne. | Jan 04 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | I'm going to pick up some of that tuna salad they have at ALDI. I love that stuff. | Jan 04 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | or chicken salad.... | Jan 04 17:52 |
| DaemonFC | their chicken salad is good too | Jan 04 17:52 |
| Snowleaksange | 65 in silicon valley :P | Jan 04 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't done any grocery shopping since November. | Jan 04 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | I've been living on fast food coupons. | Jan 04 17:53 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Jan 04 17:53 |
| Sosumi | you need to make some retirement plans and relocate to southern spain or portugal | Jan 04 17:53 |
| Sosumi | look, no snow :) | Jan 04 17:54 |
| Sosumi | only rain and it's not very cold | Jan 04 17:54 |
| Sosumi | you can still walk around in shorts | Jan 04 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. If I had the money, I'd leave. | Jan 04 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | Like, if some hypothetical rich uncle died and left me in the will, and I had money tomorrow, I wouldn't be in Indiana on Monday. | Jan 04 17:55 |
| Sosumi | you remember that trick I mentioned here, right? | Jan 04 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | Going to ALDI. I have about an hour or two before the major snowing starts. | Jan 04 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | That's *if* the forecast is accurate. | Jan 04 17:56 |
| DaemonFC | It told me all clear to 9 PM last Sunday, so I drove a friend home about 30 miles from here thinking I had time to beat the storm. | Jan 04 17:57 |
| DaemonFC | It got nasty at around 7:15, when I had most of the drive left. | Jan 04 17:57 |
| Snowleaksange | i became suddenly rich at the end of november. havent done anything different yet | Jan 04 17:59 |
| Sosumi | Snowleaksange, by coercing your rich uncle to make you his single heir and then poisoning him? :P | Jan 04 18:01 |
| schestowitz | "Hey, don't lick the door!" | Jan 04 18:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482850 | Jan 04 18:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ***Thief! :D*** | Jan 04 18:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif | Jan 04 18:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif | Jan 04 18:01 |
| Snowleaksange | similar result. Apple bought a company that i cofounded but hadnt worked at for years. got email basically saying, hey where should we wire you millions of dollars | Jan 04 18:02 |
| Sosumi | so they wanted your share in the company? | Jan 04 18:03 |
| Snowleaksange | yeah | Jan 04 18:03 |
| Sosumi | now employ that money well | Jan 04 18:05 |
| MinceR | what did that company do? | Jan 04 18:05 |
| Snowleaksange | twitter search engine | Jan 04 18:05 |
| Snowleaksange | well started by paying 650k in taxes | Jan 04 18:05 |
| Snowleaksange | to be wasted on bunch of useless military bases, spy infrastructure, and covert operations basically diametrically opposed to my interests | Jan 04 18:06 |
| Sosumi | like in backing some student's research in AI and artificial life | Jan 04 18:06 |
| Sosumi | specially if they are from instituto superior tecnico - portugal | Jan 04 18:06 |
| Snowleaksange | my most recent employment was on "AI" team in machine intelligence group at Google | Jan 04 18:07 |
| Snowleaksange | think theyve p much got it covered | Jan 04 18:07 |
| Snowleaksange | also hard to do AI research without 10k cores to devote to your whims | Jan 04 18:08 |
| Sosumi | that was one of my main points, computability | Jan 04 18:09 |
| Sosumi | and without grants there isn't exactly much that be done other than be creative | Jan 04 18:10 |
| Sosumi | maliciously creative, I should say, but never mind that I said that | Jan 04 18:11 |
| Snowleaksange | i think knowledge representation is one of biggest hurdles. i think just going to take a lot of trial & error to stumble upon frame representations that really work | Jan 04 18:12 |
| Sosumi | not my problem | Jan 04 18:34 |
| Sosumi | it started as a trading platform to anallise the chatter on the internet and then predict stock values in an automated fashion | Jan 04 18:36 |
| Sosumi | I tested it in stock that don't make it to main index | Jan 04 18:36 |
| Sosumi | in this case psi pink sheets | Jan 04 18:37 |
| Sosumi | and even resorted to spam in order to coerce ppl in buying 0.40€ stock in some company they never heard off | Jan 04 18:38 |
| Sosumi | but I wanted it to be better, probably "inspired" by norbert wiener's "cybernetics" | Jan 04 18:39 |
| Sosumi | into some form of artificial life | Jan 04 18:40 |
| Sosumi | but because of the shady methods used there, there is no way to get grants to buy equipment | Jan 04 18:41 |
| Sosumi | but at least I'm free to use already existent resources | Jan 04 18:41 |
| Sosumi | and I got all the time I want in order to clean up the case for appreciation to actually get a grant | Jan 04 18:42 |
| Sosumi | that was what a teacher said to me | Jan 04 18:42 |
| Sosumi | but I could clean up things, show an actual working concept and go to kickstarter for funding | Jan 04 18:43 |
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| Sosumi | instead of getting my hands tied to the calouste gulbenkian foundation, which is the main and only place to get grants from | Jan 04 18:44 |
| Sosumi | actually, hands tied to and by them | Jan 04 18:45 |
| Snowleaksange | cool | Jan 04 18:46 |
| Sosumi | instead of being free to actually set my own goals | Jan 04 18:46 |
| Snowleaksange | yeah getting funding difficult and usually more trouble than worth because the you have to please your funders | Jan 04 18:46 |
| Snowleaksange | unless business already very close to profitability | Jan 04 18:46 |
| Snowleaksange | youre young tho. youve got time, inspiration, energy | Jan 04 18:47 |
| Sosumi | 24 | Jan 04 18:47 |
| Snowleaksange | more important than funding. can work dayjob | Jan 04 18:47 |
| Sosumi | that started in 2009 | Jan 04 18:47 |
| Sosumi | when I was 19 and during my time out before entering university | Jan 04 18:48 |
| TweetedTuxMachin | @tuxmachines Nginx joins the big leagues in Ubuntu Server | Jan 04 18:49 |
| TweetedTuxMachin | http://t.co/vO6C6Y7Qjn | Jan 04 18:49 |
| TweetedTuxMachin | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc2zv | Jan 04 18:49 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Nginx joins the big leagues in Ubuntu Server | Tux Machines | Jan 04 18:49 |
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| TweetedTuxMachin | @schestowitz Must dance http://t.co/j24VKARD2E | Jan 04 18:50 |
| TweetedTuxMachin | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc2zz | Jan 04 18:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2014/Jan-04.html | Jan 04 19:19 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | tirania.org | ISO C++ 2D API - Miguel de Icaza [ http://ur1.ca/gc354 ] | Jan 04 19:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Just watched one-hour sci-fiction programme on | Jan 04 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "Animal Planet", masquerading as documentary | Jan 04 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (like 'History' Channel). TV makes one dumb. | Jan 04 19:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3ay | Jan 04 19:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/419633952152776704 | Jan 04 20:01 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @gnutelephony: @schestowitz dumb owners leads to dumb programming too...both I believe went from some form of public to entirely private ownership... | Jan 04 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi | Jan 04 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | rolling updates http://t.co/LknEqsHkSb #ubuntu | Jan 04 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #gnu #linux | Jan 04 20:05 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.muktware.com | Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi rolling updates | Muktware | Jan 04 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3cc | Jan 04 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | ALDI ran out of milk, bread, eggs, and most of their produce | Jan 04 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | I grabbed what I could and then went to Walmart. | Jan 04 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | I got all my favorite stuff though. | Jan 04 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | Everything I need and a few things I didn't. :) | Jan 04 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | I really like those premium chicken pot pies from ALDI. | Jan 04 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora has updated GNOME Web to 3.10.3. | Jan 04 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | I'll have to try it out. It's getting quite good aside from the odd crash, | Jan 04 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | When it works, it works well. | Jan 04 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | When it crashes, it manages to take out all the tabs at once. It shouldn't be doing that. It's supposed to be using Webkit2. | Jan 04 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Overall, I like GNOME 3.10. I'll qualify that, though. After you install a ton of extensions, it's pleasant to work with. | Jan 04 20:13 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like how it wants to restart the computer to apply updates. | Jan 04 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | Not every update should require the computer to restart. Very few of them should require that. | Jan 04 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | It's annoying and wrong. | Jan 04 20:15 |
| DaemonFC | Debian seems to be falling apart. It needs some leadership. | Jan 04 20:16 |
| MinceR | maybe it's getting leadership, but of the wrong kind (canonical) | Jan 04 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | It appears that every time there's more than one choice, they try to badly support every possible choice at once. It's like they're paralyzed. Unable to move. | Jan 04 20:16 |
| DaemonFC | It would be better if they had solid leadership that was willing to make choices and accept the consequences. | Jan 04 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Broadcast/TV is beaming science fiction with | Jan 04 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | fake (actor) "scientists" for ratings. Any | Jan 04 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | other proof needed to show TV makes you dumb? | Jan 04 20:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3dz | Jan 04 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They've already said what needs to be done about their init situation. | Jan 04 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | OpenRC is immature and has little documentation and doesn't solve all of their problems. | Jan 04 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | Upstart is well documented and stable, but doesn't solve all their problems, and is against the spirit of DFSG, because of the Canonical CLA. | Jan 04 20:17 |
| DaemonFC | SystemD solves all their problems, is well documented, is stable, and is Free Software without gimmicks. | Jan 04 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | And yet, they can't decide. | Jan 04 20:18 |
| MinceR | neither of upstart and systemd will run on the other kernels they support -- i hope this doesn't mean that they'll throw those kernels away | Jan 04 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, it seems like a no brainer to me. | Jan 04 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | Well, there again we have a problem. | Jan 04 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | We let 1% of users wreck the GNU/Linux version? | Jan 04 20:18 |
| MinceR | they said they'll just have to implement support for the missing pieces in those kernels, but that sounds very nontrivial to me | Jan 04 20:19 |
| MinceR | we let 99% users wreck our future potential that is HURD? | Jan 04 20:19 |
| MinceR | (or, for that matter, Bedrock Linux) | Jan 04 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | Well, modernizing the other kernels seems to be a better choice than letting GNU/Linux rot. | Jan 04 20:20 |
| MinceR | if it will actually happen | Jan 04 20:20 |
| MinceR | and not just handwaved in at one moment and out at the next | Jan 04 20:20 |
| MinceR | also, upstart is apparently not off the table yet, despite it being obviously inadequate | Jan 04 20:20 |
| MinceR | would that not be letting GNU/Linux rot? | Jan 04 20:21 |
| MinceR | i'm hoping they'll maintain support for sysvinit or openrc and also support systemd | Jan 04 20:21 |
| MinceR | then again, udisks-daemon bothers me and that's not going away either | Jan 04 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | if anyone wants to support other init systems, they're free to do so. | Jan 04 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | systemd needs to be the default | Jan 04 20:22 |
| MinceR | maybe systemd can resurrect it when it dies and then that issue will be sort of patched | Jan 04 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | it's the only one that's up to the task | Jan 04 20:22 |
| MinceR | for certain definitions of the "task", that is. | Jan 04 20:22 |
| MinceR | also, i wonder how this will affect running Debian in a chroot | Jan 04 20:23 |
| MinceR | (not only for Bedrock, but also for things like Android) | Jan 04 20:23 |
| MinceR | (and just plain old chroots for compartmentalization) | Jan 04 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is available for Android that way. | Jan 04 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | GNURoot Fedora Remix. | Jan 04 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | It's not official, but it does work. | Jan 04 20:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi | Jan 04 20:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | rolling updates http://t.co/Z5ITzKQCD8 | Jan 04 20:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3ev | Jan 04 20:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu hints at full convergence and semi rolling updates | Tux Machines | Jan 04 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Jan 04 20:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz When broadcasters permitted to relay hoaxes | Jan 04 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | like Uri Geller and http://t.co/14AZIMrQbG | Jan 04 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/UxDKfAevl7 no wonder society made | Jan 04 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.today.com | Were you fooled by Animal Planet's mermaid special? - TODAY.com | Jan 04 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | dumb | Jan 04 20:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | insidetv.ew.com | Mermaid hoax drowns Animal Planet's ratings record | Inside TV | EW.com | Jan 04 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3f3 | Jan 04 20:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz Diaspora Europe helps simplify PGP | Jan 04 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/kVeMZ2iK5l | Jan 04 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3i6 | Jan 04 20:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.joindiaspora.com | ## Dear PGP Users <3 | Jan 04 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @umairh I have no time for the inferiority complexes of | Jan 04 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by rich white guys who think rich white guys are | Jan 04 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz right because they're rich white guys. | Jan 04 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3if | Jan 04 20:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @schestowitz #domestic #espionage http://t.co/Glj8PGEvIT | Jan 04 20:37 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | m.washingtonpost.com | The NSA refuses to deny spying on members of Congress - The Washington Post | Jan 04 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | watch the photo chosen by #cia .. I mean, | Jan 04 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #washpo | Jan 04 20:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gc3im | Jan 04 20:37 |
| schestowitz | http://lwn.net/Articles/578208/rss | Jan 04 20:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | lwn.net | Positions forming in the Debian init system discussion [LWN.net] | Jan 04 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | <li><h5><a href="http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/04/visual-novel-narcissu-sequel-coming-steam/" rel="nofollow">Visual Novel Narcissu And Its Sequel Are Coming To Steam</a></h5></li> | Jan 04 20:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.siliconera.com | Visual Novel Narcissu And Its Sequel Are Coming To Steam [ http://ur1.ca/gc3jl ] | Jan 04 20:45 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482392 | Jan 04 20:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: eBook Reader and Editing Software #Calibre 1.18 Is Almost Perfect http://news.softpedia.com/news/eBook-Reader-and-Editiig-Software-Calibre-1-18-Is-Almost-Perfect-413118.shtml #ebook #literature #gnu #linux | Jan 04 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> news.softpedia.com | eBook Reader and Editing Software Calibre 1.18 Is Almost Perfect [ http://ur1.ca/gc3jm ] | Jan 04 20:46 |
| schestowitz | "Empecé a usar Calibre hace poco y es un muy buen programa, muy recomendable. Sólo ví una particularidad a tener en cuenta. Cuando programas una descarga de un diario, compromete los recursos del equipo. Aparte de eso, genial' | Jan 04 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Don`t liick the door .... risa | Jan 04 20:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3482850 | Jan 04 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ***Thief! :D*** | Jan 04 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif | Jan 04 20:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Photo by kanela@diasp.eu: https://diasp.eu/uploads/images/thumb_medium_061fd22eaf5496806fdd.gif | Jan 04 20:46 |
| schestowitz | "Yuk, he did lick it!" | Jan 04 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | I use a program called Aldiko. | Jan 04 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | It seems to do the job well enough. | Jan 04 20:53 |
| MinceR | so do i | Jan 04 20:58 |
| MinceR | since Cool Reader crashes often on certain ebooks | Jan 04 20:59 |
| MinceR | gn | Jan 04 21:12 |
| ---dissent is now known as vallor | Jan 04 22:06 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/01/02/iphone-5s-review-2014/ | Jan 04 22:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | www.gottabemobile.com | iPhone 5s Review: 100 Days with Apple's New iPhone [ http://ur1.ca/gc3zb ] | Jan 04 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | The phone reboots itself and apps crash randomly. | Jan 04 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | They still give it a good review. | Jan 04 22:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | well, they probably think Windows is okay too | Jan 04 22:32 |
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