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schestowitz__http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgoDkwwpFx0Feb 16 00:30
TechrightsBot-trwww.youtube.com | Bizzle gets some Dunkers. - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/gmtqq ]Feb 16 00:30
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schestowitz__[14:18] <ReneAguilera> awful icons! Dr. Schestowitz, please make better icons (or at least smaller). I read tuxmachines everyday using a smartphone or a netbook (10"). Those icons are "too much"Feb 16 00:42
schestowitz__issue fixed, I shrank the iconsFeb 16 00:42
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schestowitz__[21:10] <Sosumi> sochi = germany on top, followed by switzerlandFeb 16 00:53
schestowitz__My two grandparents are from thereFeb 16 00:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.11.5 Released with Updated Apps andFeb 16 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Many Bugfixes http://t.co/vm5LZn21uNFeb 16 01:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gmtuxFeb 16 01:02
TechrightsBot-trwww.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.11.5 Released with Updated Apps and Many Bugfixes | Tux MachinesFeb 16 01:02
MinceRgnFeb 16 02:15
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3650560Feb 16 08:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNOME 3.11.5 Released with Updated Apps and Many Bugfixes  http://news.softpedia.com/news/GNOME-3-11-5-Released-with-Updated-Apps-and-Many-Bugfixes-426482.shtml #gnu #linuxFeb 16 08:07
TechrightsBot-tr-> news.softpedia.com | GNOME 3.11.5 Released with Updated Apps and Many Bugfixes  [ http://ur1.ca/gmvlf ]Feb 16 08:07
schestowitz__"No, thanks ;) MATE or i3 solve my computing needs."Feb 16 08:07
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3649387Feb 16 08:07
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Giant cat named Pickle Puss adopted in Massachusetts.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2559310/Meet-Pickles-three-foot-rescue-cat-weighing-21-pounds-doesnt-realise-size.htmlFeb 16 08:07
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by furb@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_3e0672c06ca3ec732903.jpgFeb 16 08:07
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.dailymail.co.uk | Meet Pickles the three foot rescue cat weighing 21 pounds who doesn't realise his own size | Mail Online  [ http://ur1.ca/gmvlh ]Feb 16 08:07
schestowitz__"The Fukushima Cat."Feb 16 08:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What if Linus Torvalds Would Have Accepted JobFeb 16 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Proposal of Steve Jobs? http://t.co/twCIaGJS9wFeb 16 08:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gmvtiFeb 16 08:51
TechrightsBot-trwww.tuxmachines.org | What if Linus Torvalds Would Have Accepted Job Proposal of Steve Jobs? | Tux MachinesFeb 16 08:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/hDCfXbabRjFeb 16 09:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gmw1jFeb 16 09:29
TechrightsBot-trwww.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 16 09:29
DaemonFChttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/02/16/0319238/plan-9-from-bell-labs-operating-system-now-available-under-gplv2Feb 16 09:38
TechrightsBot-trtech.slashdot.org | Plan 9 From Bell Labs Operating System Now Available Under GPLv2 - Slashdot  [ http://ur1.ca/gmw2a ]Feb 16 09:38
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/74rk/status/434987288926642176Feb 16 09:48
TechrightsBot-tr@74rk: @schestowitz @kaatje36 so how do we set this up? Like tor on the existing Internet?Feb 16 09:48
schestowitz__Maybe retool the Internet, without WWW. There used to be alternatives. HTTPS not enough.Feb 16 09:48
schestowitz__Architecturally (e.g. DNS reading who you comm to, not decentralised) Pentagon-made Internet generally good for surveillanceFeb 16 09:50
schestowitz__On top of wireless network could build meshes that bypass authorities that surveil transmission and collect "metadata"; DPIFeb 16 09:51
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434988095897759744Feb 16 09:51
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk p2p perhaps?Feb 16 09:51
schestowitz__meshes, there are already attempts at it. http://techrights.org/2013/10/18/internet-and-web-are-broken/Feb 16 09:52
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Alternatives Needed to the Existing Internet, Which Turned From Tool of Self Expression and Creativity to Surveillance and Oppression | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/fwqjg ]Feb 16 09:52
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/74rk/status/434988186847424513Feb 16 09:53
TechrightsBot-tr@74rk: @schestowitz @kaatje36 how about a large, open source VPN like network on top of the existing infrastructure?Feb 16 09:53
schestowitz__You would need to hide the VPN sources http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/20/gchq_belgacom_hack_link/Feb 16 09:55
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | Latest Snowden reveal: It was GCHQ that hacked Belgian telco giant • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/gmw5l ]Feb 16 09:55
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434988569740857344Feb 16 09:55
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @74rk @schestowitz infra and hardware are the two first problems to solveFeb 16 09:55
schestowitz__hardware does not have many back doors (yet), but the s/w on it (soft) does, including some routersFeb 16 09:55
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/74rk/status/434988744719216640Feb 16 09:56
TechrightsBot-tr@74rk: @schestowitz @kaatje36 resurrection of AX25? Could be done with wifi substitute for ham radioFeb 16 09:56
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434988899945836545Feb 16 09:57
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk but isn't that useless when the hardware we're using itself contains all sorts of backdoors?Feb 16 09:57
schestowitz__In Cisco routers the backdoors are in software (can overwrite them). In hubs I think there might be manually-inserted sting.Feb 16 09:57
schestowitz__Currently, safest way to exchange messages (endpoints unknown) is meeting in person, but in UK CCTV collects "metadata"Feb 16 09:58
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434989531884814336Feb 16 09:59
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk ans how about getting round all these EU programs leading to forced identification on social security number?Feb 16 09:59
schestowitz__These are limited in capacity, requires human labourFeb 16 09:59
schestowitz__These are lesser threats to journalist (like Risen's case); no longer do journalists meet sources in parking lots and allFeb 16 10:00
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434990252185243648Feb 16 10:00
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk and how about undetectable trojans into Intel’s Ivy BridgeFeb 16 10:01
schestowitz__Oh, Intel is an easy one. Even the company's name helps reveal its attitude towards privacy. Avoid x86.Feb 16 10:01
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schestowitz__Based on Appelbaum's talk in CCC, most hardware companies targeted are x86-centric.Feb 16 10:02
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434990708907192320Feb 16 10:02
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk Okay; so for now detechnologizing may be the only answer and ofcourse stealthware :-)Feb 16 10:02
schestowitz__This is why we need to fight back against "Internet browses YOU!" trendFeb 16 10:02
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schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/Peijlstaart/status/434997468477276160Feb 16 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Peijlstaart: @glynmoody @schestowitz > all our mail go through the US? Why-tf? I'm sure many people do not know this.Feb 16 10:30
schestowitz__I have written about this for years because Chalmers Johnson (not deceased) spoke about itFeb 16 10:30
schestowitz__*nowFeb 16 10:30
schestowitz__but to be pedantic, it doesn't get router through US, it gets collected in bases around the world, e.g. in YorkshireFeb 16 10:31
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/434998289356697600Feb 16 10:32
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @Peijlstaart @schestowitz yes, you're right; which is why Merkel's statement is importantFeb 16 10:32
schestowitz__Email and phones register IDs at endpoints and when cross-national share this data. Needs overhaul.Feb 16 10:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Peijlstaart/status/434998765796478976Feb 16 10:34
TechrightsBot-tr@Peijlstaart: @schestowitz @glynmoody > based on what law / treaty / contract? What's going on hereFeb 16 10:34
schestowitz__That's why there are many protests there. Like UK secret courts (=hiding illegal torture), needs scrutinyFeb 16 10:34
Sosumihttp://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_02_16/Merkel-proposes-to-create-European-communication-network-that-circumvents-US-6598/Feb 16 10:42
TechrightsBot-trvoiceofrussia.com | Merkel proposes to create European communication network that circumvents US - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwdy ]Feb 16 10:42
Sosumigermany and france trying to keep all the eggs in the basket for themselvesFeb 16 10:43
Sosumibut if the project includes the UKFeb 16 10:43
Sosumithe GCHQ will just pass the info the abc agencies in the USFeb 16 10:44
Sosumi*to theFeb 16 10:44
Sosumiso, why bother?Feb 16 10:45
schestowitz__citing the Microsoft booster: http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/rethinking-android-open-source/2014-02-11Feb 16 10:47
TechrightsBot-trwww.fiercecio.com | Rethinking Android as open source - FierceCIO:TechWatch  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwew ]Feb 16 10:47
schestowitz__To make Android look bad with MS talking pointsFeb 16 10:47
schestowitz__Sosumi: Germany can't be trusted eitherFeb 16 10:47
Sosumithat was why I said "all the eggs (information) in the basket for themselves"Feb 16 10:49
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/flupzor/status/435004343108902912Feb 16 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr@flupzor: @schestowitz @meneer @kaatje36 @74rk X86 isn't implemented only by Intel(tm) CPU's. Why would you avoid X86 because of Intel?Feb 16 11:04
schestowitz__No, there are other reasons. But the technical issue is, most stuff is compiled for x86. Android changes that.Feb 16 11:04
schestowitz__http://www.elandroidelibre.com/2014/02/uno-de-cada-tres-android-esta-fuera-del-control-de-google.htmlFeb 16 11:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.elandroidelibre.com | Uno de cada tres Android está fuera del control de Google  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwjg ]Feb 16 11:08
schestowitz__The astroturf grows strong, with Microsoft-funded 'academics' and MS boosters in Ars http://techrights.org/2014/02/15/ben-edelman-microsoft/Feb 16 11:09
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Microsoft-Bribed Ben Edelman Behind Latest Smear Against Android/Linux | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwjr ]Feb 16 11:09
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/T23Tm23/status/435012052730388480Feb 16 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr@T23Tm23: @schestowitz @wikileaks better than using a pedophile for being in the news, I guess so #Assange http://t.co/YuGBYt0yzVFeb 16 11:27
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.wikileaks-forum.com | Julian Assange tries to get into the public spotlight  in  WikiLeaks related NewsFeb 16 11:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meet These Women With Awesome Careers WorkingFeb 16 11:29
TweetTuxMachines                 On Linux http://t.co/mNzJjN3I74Feb 16 11:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gmwnmFeb 16 11:29
TechrightsBot-trwww.tuxmachines.org | Meet These Women With Awesome Careers Working On Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 16 11:29
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schestowitz__"Schadenfreude ist die beste Freude"Feb 16 11:56
schestowitz__talking ponts http://www.zdnet.com/cisco-ceo-internet-of-things-poised-to-be-19-trillion-market-7000026321/#ftag=RSS14dc6a9Feb 16 12:00
TechrightsBot-trwww.zdnet.com | Cisco CEO: Internet of Things poised to be $19 trillion market | ZDNet  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwvc ]Feb 16 12:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Design Tools: High-end Design on aFeb 16 12:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Low-end Budget? http://t.co/KR7BOwAgjFFeb 16 12:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.tuxmachines.org | Linux Design Tools: High-end Design on a Low-end Budget? | Tux MachinesFeb 16 12:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gmwx2Feb 16 12:08
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Kakistocrat/status/435022258206416896Feb 16 12:49
TechrightsBot-tr@Kakistocrat: @schestowitz 1: doesn't seem to be gmail specific. 2: hasn't gmail changed recently to hosting image attachments internally for this reason?Feb 16 12:49
schestowitz__That might be OKFeb 16 12:49
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651429Feb 16 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Data protection: Angela #Merkel proposes #Europe network http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26210053 but would Merkel then abuse it for #surveillance advantage?Feb 16 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Data protection: Angela Merkel proposes Europe network  [ http://ur1.ca/gmx64 ]Feb 16 12:59
schestowitz__"Only trust your own solutions. That's it."Feb 16 12:59
Sosumilawrence livermore lab is where the new fusion developments have been made atFeb 16 12:59
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651253Feb 16 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #voluntaryism #anarchism #anarcho-capitalism #anti-statism #visforvoluntary #voluntary #fuckthepoliceFeb 16 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by ellie_bean@d.viewskew.com: https://d.viewskew.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_efa1f183c3a7cfa54f78.jpgFeb 16 12:59
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schestowitz__"Yeah! like that one."Feb 16 12:59
Sosumiand not princetonFeb 16 13:00
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651193Feb 16 13:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: I'm glad they're _finally_ doing this somewhere.Feb 16 13:01
TechrightsBot-tr  Photo by khelair@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_f9494ce9a2ae40906827.jpgFeb 16 13:01
schestowitz__"Awesome!"Feb 16 13:01
Sosumihttp://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140127/NEWS08/301270013/U-S-resumes-nonlethal-aid-Syrian-oppositionFeb 16 13:18
TechrightsBot-trwww.militarytimes.com | U.S. resumes nonlethal aid to Syrian opposition | Military Times | militarytimes.com  [ http://ur1.ca/gmx9q ]Feb 16 13:19
Sosumiwhich includes....Feb 16 13:19
Sosumihttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bgl5UWYCQAEY7Bj.png:largeFeb 16 13:19
Sosumiapple computers!!!!!Feb 16 13:19
SosumilawlFeb 16 13:19
Sosumiapple computers to jihadisFeb 16 13:19
Sosumiyour tax dollars at workFeb 16 13:20
Sosumiwith that faceFeb 16 13:21
SosumiI wonder if the bearded jihadi is contemplating a render of the 72 virgins expecting him on the other sideFeb 16 13:23
MinceRgeekingsFeb 16 13:44
SosumiMinceR, have you seen my last link?Feb 16 14:04
MinceRyesFeb 16 14:05
Sosumiinteresting isn't it?Feb 16 14:05
Sosumiwhen I saw it on my twitter feed I was about to split my tea on the screenFeb 16 14:05
MinceRdidn't surprise meFeb 16 14:07
MinceRsuch evil cults often go together :>Feb 16 14:07
Sosumi:)Feb 16 14:07
MinceRas for the job offer article, it ignores the fact that Linux has already gained momentum on 2000 and a lot of people were working on itFeb 16 14:10
MinceRand the article fails to credit them properlyFeb 16 14:11
MinceRs/ on / in /Feb 16 14:11
SosumiI remember back in those days some computer magazines (portuguese ones)Feb 16 14:12
Sosumiwere always bundling gnu/linux with themFeb 16 14:13
Sosumialongside with the video game demos, freeware that they used to includeFeb 16 14:13
SosumiI don't think they do that anymoreFeb 16 14:16
Sosumiand many of those magazines aren't around anymoreFeb 16 14:16
MinceRIT journalism died in hungary a long time agoFeb 16 14:17
Sosumimany in fact, were supplanted by "pink magazines"Feb 16 14:17
Sosumiwhich talk about "telenovelas" and supertardsFeb 16 14:18
MinceRthe magazines that were worth buying were taken over by publishers and staff who didn't know what they were doingFeb 16 14:18
Sosumi*superstarsFeb 16 14:18
MinceR"supertard" works for meFeb 16 14:18
Sosumi:)Feb 16 14:18
gde33I've always been amazed by how easy google deletes your account over youtube tos violations.Feb 16 14:24
Sosumia solution for thatFeb 16 14:25
MinceRdon't share videos on youtube? :>Feb 16 14:25
Sosumiis having different accounts under multiple personasFeb 16 14:25
Sosumiif one is taken downFeb 16 14:25
gde33it is more interesting than that, the tos holds that they will ban you without providing a reason.Feb 16 14:25
Sosumiyou jus hop into another oneFeb 16 14:25
gde33and such a ban includes your android phone or osFeb 16 14:26
Sosumithus losing access to even programs paid with cash?Feb 16 14:26
gde33yesFeb 16 14:26
gde33and your adsense earnings, advertisement money, search featuresFeb 16 14:26
gde33the worksFeb 16 14:27
Sosumione more reason for having other accounts for publishing stuff on youtubeFeb 16 14:27
Sosumiit sucks, but hey no one ever said the world was a fair place ;)Feb 16 14:28
Sosumiand if ppl don't pressure google, not much is going to changeFeb 16 14:29
gde33well noFeb 16 14:30
gde33they want you to use your real name for an accountFeb 16 14:30
gde33if you play by the rules the whole thing can blow up in your faceFeb 16 14:30
gde33it is arguably designed to do thatFeb 16 14:30
gde33the thing I hate most about the toss is having to fucking check every video I've posted on my website.Feb 16 14:30
gde33the accounts with many videos are the ones with the interesting videosFeb 16 14:30
gde33if you have a few thousand youtube videos on your website it quickly turns into a sort of graveyardFeb 16 14:31
gde33I'm supper bored with that taskFeb 16 14:33
gde33the same video is on the site 1000 timesFeb 16 14:34
gde33but I had to post the one that was terminated hahaFeb 16 14:34
MinceRi wish people just linked to videos on plain http with some reasonable container and codecsFeb 16 14:34
MinceRinstead of hiding them behind flash players and html5Feb 16 14:34
gde33I always include the username and a html link :)Feb 16 14:35
gde33have links   user > videoFeb 16 14:35
gde33reminds me of a funny effectFeb 16 14:36
gde33google buys a service but they always have undocumented featuresFeb 16 14:36
gde33if you search and try hard enough you can find all sorts of functionality even google doesnt know aboutFeb 16 14:36
gde33like undocumented blogger tagsFeb 16 14:36
gde33youtube rss feedsFeb 16 14:36
MinceR:)Feb 16 14:37
gde33there use to be html search results under http://google.com/ieFeb 16 14:39
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.com | Upgrade to Google ChromeFeb 16 14:39
gde33just vanilla linksFeb 16 14:39
gde33http://wayback.archive.org/web/20050828133056/http://www.google.com/ieFeb 16 14:40
TechrightsBot-trwayback.archive.org | Google Results:  [ http://ur1.ca/gmxq1 ]Feb 16 14:40
MinceRyeah, scroogle used thatFeb 16 14:41
gde33it was incredubly dumb to change from do no evil to the internet trollFeb 16 14:42
gde33in the EU the troll is just taxed to deathFeb 16 14:43
MinceRindeedFeb 16 14:43
gde33they aren't going to win anything with itFeb 16 14:43
MinceRit might have been the prerequisite for the megacorporation/two-party/government complex to let them surviveFeb 16 14:43
gde33they are not going to win anything with it either :/Feb 16 14:44
gde33they should have been happy with the information controlFeb 16 14:45
gde33that is arguably the most valuable to the megacorpFeb 16 14:45
gde33they could chose how much tax they wanted to pay in FranceFeb 16 14:47
gde33how can you spoil an opportunity like that?Feb 16 14:47
gde33LOLFeb 16 14:47
gde33when they wanted to not pay any taxes it changed into 1 billion dollarsFeb 16 14:47
gde33or wait no, 1 billion euroFeb 16 14:48
gde33they should have had some analist figure out that france is under a lot of pressure from the eu to get under the 3% deficitFeb 16 14:49
gde33Google's Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt said attempts to force technology companies to pay more tax could stymie innovation.Feb 16 14:51
gde33what does he mean attempts?Feb 16 14:51
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gde33I just want to use his services for everythingFeb 16 14:56
gde33They paid the french €5.5 million in 2011 lolFeb 16 14:59
gde33not sure what this means, sounds funny: Google and other big Internet companies keep the money in Bermuda. $1,400 billion are stuck there.Feb 16 15:03
Sosumilike I said,Feb 16 15:26
Sosumiuse fake personasFeb 16 15:26
Sosumigoogle has no way to prove that persona x is a fakeFeb 16 15:26
Sosumiunless that is, someone rats you outFeb 16 15:27
MinceRthey don't need to, they can shut down any account without providing a reasonFeb 16 15:27
MinceRisn't fog computing fun?Feb 16 15:27
Sosumibut that is the point, you then continue your activity on another accountFeb 16 15:28
Sosumiand nop fog computing isn't funFeb 16 15:28
XFaCESosumi:  then access each account in a KVMFeb 16 15:52
SosumiKVM?Feb 16 15:53
Sosumior behind a vpn or proxyFeb 16 15:53
Sosumiso google doesn't know that all the accounts are being accessed from the same ipFeb 16 15:53
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gde33I would rather pay a fine or somethingFeb 16 16:11
schestowitz__gde33: http://wayback.archive.org/web/20111102115255/http://www.google.com/toolbar/ie8/sidebar.html ?Feb 16 16:23
TechrightsBot-trwayback.archive.org | Upgrade to Google Chrome  [ http://ur1.ca/gmyaq ]Feb 16 16:23
gde33schestowitz__: what are we looking at?Feb 16 16:24
schestowitz__http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140127/NEWS08/301270013/U-S-resumes-nonlethal-aid-Syrian-oppositionFeb 16 16:24
TechrightsBot-trwww.militarytimes.com | U.S. resumes nonlethal aid to Syrian opposition | Military Times | militarytimes.com  [ http://ur1.ca/gmx9q ]Feb 16 16:24
schestowitz__Military booster pretends there were never weapons sentFeb 16 16:24
gde33schestowitz__: I'm not understanding :PFeb 16 16:25
schestowitz__you pointed at Web ArchiveFeb 16 16:26
schestowitz__Google.com/ieFeb 16 16:26
gde33yeah?Feb 16 16:27
schestowitz__I assume you wanted to show they recommend ChromeFeb 16 16:27
schestowitz__But the page you linked at did not have relevant contentsFeb 16 16:27
gde33no no, I wanted to show the pure html version of google searchFeb 16 16:27
schestowitz__"pure"?Feb 16 16:27
gde33it use to be awesome, it showed only link anchors with the page title without descriptionsFeb 16 16:28
schestowitz__They make a mess of HTML since ages agoFeb 16 16:28
schestowitz__like one line nonsense of non-conforming codeFeb 16 16:28
schestowitz__that only works well under parricular cincumstancesFeb 16 16:28
schestowitz__I recall chatting about this in USENET as far back as 2004 or 05Feb 16 16:28
schestowitz__and yes, you could load 100 results as title onlyFeb 16 16:29
gde33I would for example copy the results into a html editorFeb 16 16:29
schestowitz__Some years ago it stopped workingFeb 16 16:29
gde33then delete the crapFeb 16 16:29
gde33yeahFeb 16 16:29
schestowitz__and instead it redicrected to some page about IE or ChromeFeb 16 16:29
gde33indeedFeb 16 16:29
schestowitz__So you use it tooFeb 16 16:29
schestowitz__up to 100 results IIRCFeb 16 16:29
schestowitz__Not good for their ads business modelFeb 16 16:29
gde33it was specially awesome in maxthon and myie2Feb 16 16:29
gde33you could select a bunch of text in myie2 then drag it 1 cmFeb 16 16:30
gde33and it would open all the links in the text selectionFeb 16 16:30
gde33web pages didnt have a ton of js cruft at the timeFeb 16 16:30
gde33could easily open the 100 linksFeb 16 16:30
gde33mouse gestures to move to the next tab with or without closing the current oneFeb 16 16:31
gde33like a rocket ship compared to what the web is nowFeb 16 16:31
gde33afkFeb 16 16:32
iophkWeb without js crap is amazingly fast.Feb 16 16:33
msb_Do you folks all know about the youtube-dl program that can download all youtube videos, even the VEVO and other censored ones?Feb 16 16:36
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gde33msb_: I havent seen one that just plays the video without popup dialogsFeb 16 17:05
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msb_gde33: http://youtube-dl.org/  and  http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/Feb 16 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-youtube-dl.org | youtube-dlFeb 16 17:15
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msb_It doesn't play the video, but it downloads them with very low cpu usage.Feb 16 17:15
gde33right, I can see the author isnt a savi UI designerFeb 16 17:16
msb_And if the download slows down or stops, which it often does (also with Firefox/VideoDownloader), you just Ctrl-C out of it and repeat the command and it continues where it left off, but with original high speed.Feb 16 17:17
gde33I use this one http://eusing-free-youtube-downloader-converter.en.softonic.com/Feb 16 17:17
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msb_gde33: Does it run in Linux?Feb 16 17:20
gde33dont think soFeb 16 17:21
gde33I assume on linux your cache folder isnt locked?Feb 16 17:21
msb_Then what good is it?  8^)Feb 16 17:21
gde33a good tool would salvage the flash video from thereFeb 16 17:21
msb_On Linux nothing is locked (to root).Feb 16 17:22
gde33I'm still waiting for the awesome linux distroFeb 16 17:22
msb_I use OpenSuse -- very well engineered, and still offers KDE3.Feb 16 17:22
gde33I dont want to have to learn how to switch on my computer and no command lines :PFeb 16 17:23
msb_youtube-dl downloads from the website, not the cache.Feb 16 17:23
msb_Runs on python, so all platforms.Feb 16 17:23
gde33extra points for installing under windowsFeb 16 17:24
gde33typing my admin password more than 1 time per year is not acceptable.Feb 16 17:25
gde33I'm oldskool I use concreet walls and doors for security lolFeb 16 17:27
msb_The youtube-dl authors are superb command-line programmers.  That thing has every option you could want, and the default name it gives the video file is the youtube title, the youtube 11-char ID, and the format, e.g., .mp4.  What I've been naming them for years, so you can always go back to the youtube page, if it's still there.Feb 16 17:38
msb_The continuation feature is great, can cut download time from hours to a few minutes.Feb 16 17:40
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651775Feb 16 17:43
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roy_"That's quite funny, I admit."Feb 16 17:43
roy_http://blog.braegger.pw/5-ways-to-burn-out-programming/Feb 16 17:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Oracle and Pluribus team up, flip the switch on Cisco SDN killer • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gmyvr ]Feb 16 18:15
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DaemonFCI managed to convince the shoe store to sell me an $80 pair of shoes for $60.Feb 16 19:17
DaemonFCOne of their employees put the wrong sign on the shelf and so the manager just told the cashier to ring me up for $60. B-) It's nice when stuff like that happens.Feb 16 19:18
Sosumiwhere were the shoes made?Feb 16 19:18
DaemonFCIndonesia apparently.Feb 16 19:19
SosumilolFeb 16 19:19
Sosumiand they still asked 60$ for them?Feb 16 19:19
Sosumiwhat a stealFeb 16 19:19
DaemonFCYeah. They don't cost much to make.Feb 16 19:19
DaemonFCI used to work in a shoe warehouse.Feb 16 19:20
DaemonFCNothing but Chinese-made shoes, day in, day out, 8-12 hours a day.Feb 16 19:20
DaemonFCI don't know what it cost to make them, but I know that some of them retailed for $100 or more.Feb 16 19:22
DaemonFCOnce a month, they'd let the employees buy anything that was overstock or returned for minor defects for $5 a pair.Feb 16 19:22
DaemonFCI made some money on the side buying those and then selling them on Craigslist.Feb 16 19:23
Sosumi:)Feb 16 19:23
DaemonFCI'd usually be able to buy at least 4-5 pair of shoes each month for $20-$25 total, and then turn around and make $200 off of them.Feb 16 19:23
qu1j0t3ALMOST LIKE A REAL BUSINESSFeb 16 19:25
Sosuminew hypeFeb 16 19:25
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: the real money is to pay 5c for the shoe then sell at $100. just sayiinFeb 16 19:25
Sosumihttp://rt.com/news/piracy-eu-download-films-211/Feb 16 19:25
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Sosumi"Nearly 70% of Europeans download, stream films ‘without paying’ – EC study"Feb 16 19:26
Sosuminow I knows were the european commission is wasting my tax moneyFeb 16 19:26
Sosumiin some dumb studiesFeb 16 19:26
DaemonFCI doubt that each pair cost them more than $10 in total.Feb 16 19:27
DaemonFCFrom production, to shipping, to warehousing, to the store, and then to the customer.Feb 16 19:27
DaemonFCShoes are a high profit item.Feb 16 19:27
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: wait until you meet fake eyelashesFeb 16 19:28
DaemonFChttp://www.spine-health.com/forum/treatment/back-surgery-and-neck-surgery/brown-cow-anyoneFeb 16 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spine-health.com | Brown Cow anyone? [ http://ur1.ca/gmz9e ]Feb 16 19:38
DaemonFChehFeb 16 19:38
DaemonFCThose do work. After I had a really bad seizure a few years ago, I also became constipated, so I mixed a tall glass of prune juice with a dose of milk of magnesia. Feb 16 19:39
qu1j0t3good to knowFeb 16 19:48
iophkhttp://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/02/16/why-have-you-gone-to-russia-three-times-in-two-months-heathrow-border-agent-interrogates-snowden-lawyer/Feb 16 20:44
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iophkhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140213/16525726218/widow-sues-la-sheriffs-dept-after-her-80-year-old-husband-is-killed-during-search-drugs-that-werent-actually-there.shtmlFeb 16 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | Widow Sues LA Sheriff's Dept. After Her 80-Year-Old Husband Is Killed During A Search For Drugs That Weren't Actually There | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/gmzol ]Feb 16 20:49
gde33Sosumi: no it is good, I told them to inform themselvesFeb 16 20:50
gde33Sosumi: It is important they understand that there is nothing they can do about itFeb 16 20:51
gde33at best they can persecute a few childrenFeb 16 20:52
gde33and create a black marketFeb 16 20:52
Sosumigde33, if I record a fart and stream it to the bathroomFeb 16 20:52
Sosumishould I have to pay?Feb 16 20:52
gde33you misunderstandFeb 16 20:52
DaemonFCWhen I was at the shoe store, I saw some of the brands I used to warehouse, pick, and pack.Feb 16 20:52
gde33the EU is ran by old peopleFeb 16 20:52
gde33they want to listen to the recording megacorpFeb 16 20:53
gde33do what they are told to doFeb 16 20:53
DaemonFCUnpleasant job, but it paid better than Walmart, which is why I quit Walmart. :PFeb 16 20:53
gde33but if they inform themselvesFeb 16 20:53
Sosumibecause that is what they kind of hittingFeb 16 20:53
gde33they can see that doing what the corporatards want is not going to produce resultsFeb 16 20:53
Sosumithat youy should pay to stream stuff that you probablyFeb 16 20:53
Sosumialready ownFeb 16 20:53
gde33we have the travenling sales man all firgured out, you take the portable hd to your friends house and TB's of data transfer in 20 min, on a bicycle.Feb 16 20:54
Sosumibut the terms of use deny you the streamingFeb 16 20:54
Sosumiplus with kind of movies that come out todayFeb 16 20:55
SosumiI think I should be the one being paid to watch themFeb 16 20:55
gde33lol it's all crapFeb 16 20:55
gde33the streaming stuff is about service providersFeb 16 20:56
gde33they can do something about thoseFeb 16 20:57
Sosumilike confining streaming to services like netflix?Feb 16 20:57
gde33you cant monetize itFeb 16 20:57
gde33that is the ideaFeb 16 20:58
qu1j0t3   Sosumi | plus with kind of movies that come out today            Feb 16 20:58
qu1j0t3   Sosumi | I think I should be the one being paid to watch them    Feb 16 20:58
qu1j0t3amenFeb 16 20:58
Sosumiwell you can't monetize if users break the DRM, convert the movie to h264 and stream via DLNA to say, their tvsFeb 16 20:59
SosumiI think that is the issueFeb 16 20:59
Sosumiwith the crappywood and the copywrong cartelFeb 16 20:59
gde33they dont care about that, they only aim to stop businesses from building a model based on "stealing"Feb 16 20:59
Sosumibut the issue is streamingFeb 16 21:00
gde33streaming TV programsFeb 16 21:00
Sosumieven if you were to build a business on sayFeb 16 21:00
Sosumia virtual video clubFeb 16 21:01
Sosumiyou'd still need to buy the moviesFeb 16 21:01
gde33yesFeb 16 21:01
Sosumiwith a specific streaming licenseFeb 16 21:01
gde33that must all dieFeb 16 21:01
Sosumionly for the sake of the copywrong mafiaFeb 16 21:02
gde33only people who make music or movies have an argument for a business modelFeb 16 21:02
gde33the rest must all be destroyed :DFeb 16 21:02
Sosumibut they usually create the content and rely on a publisher for distributionFeb 16 21:02
Sosumiand those are actually the problemFeb 16 21:03
Sosumieven after the death of the artist they continue monetisation of the workFeb 16 21:03
gde33the problem is that people dont play instruments and dont sing their own songsFeb 16 21:03
Sosumiinstead of releasing it to public domainFeb 16 21:04
MinceRalso, some "artists" go public with MAFIAA bullshit, spouting from their own pie-holesFeb 16 21:04
MinceRoccasionally heading MAFIAA shell organizationsFeb 16 21:05
MinceR(like artisjus in hungaristan)Feb 16 21:05
SosumisadFeb 16 21:05
gde33To be honest, what I find important is that we dig up all the lost technology for healthcare and energy production, and use existing technology to educate engineers and visionariesFeb 16 21:08
gde33the rest can all be burned for as far as I'm consideredFeb 16 21:09
gde33make it as draconian as possibleFeb 16 21:09
gde33lolFeb 16 21:09
MinceRmight be humanity will burn itselfFeb 16 21:09
gde33humanity can take a bit of burningFeb 16 21:10
Sosumithe birthing of a breakaway society...Feb 16 21:10
gde33you want that?Feb 16 21:10
MinceRmight be our only chance to preserve minds against the idiocracyFeb 16 21:10
gde33I can make that if you want, not even kidding.Feb 16 21:10
Sosumiyes, simply because it'd introduce a degree of variance in societyFeb 16 21:11
Sosumileading to different pathsFeb 16 21:12
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Sosumiyou'd end up with one dedicated to advancement of the species and the pursuit of knowledgeFeb 16 21:12
Sosumias main focusFeb 16 21:12
gde33haha only it wont look that wayFeb 16 21:13
gde33it will be a society of serious slackersFeb 16 21:13
Sosumiand another that focus only in pleasuring itselfFeb 16 21:13
Sosumiwith mindless distractionsFeb 16 21:13
gde33It would be cool to crowd fund a country with a bunch of nerdsFeb 16 21:14
qu1j0t3hmFeb 16 21:14
qu1j0t3libertarian nerds?Feb 16 21:14
MinceRtoo bad the fundies would immediately scream for a war to exterminate the nerdsFeb 16 21:14
gde33I like Bir TawilFeb 16 21:14
Sosumiwe'd need to raise enough cash to buy a greek island thenFeb 16 21:14
gde33qu1j0t3: ideology doesnt matter if you start overFeb 16 21:14
gde33the fat leaches stay behindFeb 16 21:15
qu1j0t3i, uh. ok.Feb 16 21:15
qu1j0t3yeah that'll totally workFeb 16 21:15
gde33Sosumi: something like thatFeb 16 21:15
qu1j0t3it worked in the USA, after all! a whole almost-empty continentFeb 16 21:15
qu1j0t3they checked the passenger list, no leechesFeb 16 21:16
gde33Buying a bit of the us to start your own country would be expensiveFeb 16 21:16
qu1j0t3you're missing my point. they sent some nerds over to settle the USAFeb 16 21:16
qu1j0t3terra nulliusFeb 16 21:16
gde33yes, the monopoly gamers stayed behindFeb 16 21:16
qu1j0t3yeah, they left the Pope, etc, behindFeb 16 21:16
gde33exactlyFeb 16 21:16
qu1j0t3just a bunch of puritansFeb 16 21:16
MinceRthey sent some other cults insteadFeb 16 21:16
qu1j0t3and it totally workedFeb 16 21:16
MinceRwho were all the sameFeb 16 21:17
qu1j0t3the USA is the perfect society nowFeb 16 21:17
gde33lots of people just dont careFeb 16 21:17
MinceRthey didn't like the catholics oppressing them but they were just fine with themselves oppressing othersFeb 16 21:17
qu1j0t3gde33: Antarctica might be the goFeb 16 21:17
gde33you cant do democracy with people who dont careFeb 16 21:17
MinceRonce we manage to melt all the ice? :>Feb 16 21:17
gde33Bit TawilFeb 16 21:17
qu1j0t3MinceR: won't be long :DFeb 16 21:17
gde33Bit Tawil such a hell hole it's funnyFeb 16 21:17
gde33Some sort of flexible crowd funding where you prommise to pay when it endsFeb 16 21:18
gde33let it run for 15 yearsFeb 16 21:18
gde33just as long as we dont have equalityFeb 16 21:18
gde33hitler is not ghandiFeb 16 21:19
gde33I have a grand vision for civilian ranksFeb 16 21:20
gde33ranks with special privilagesFeb 16 21:20
gde33in stead of wealthFeb 16 21:20
qu1j0t3like Star Trek?Feb 16 21:20
gde33if your rank is high enough you are not allowed to have moneyFeb 16 21:20
qu1j0t3Star Trek proves this worksFeb 16 21:21
gde33:DFeb 16 21:21
gde33we take all your money and make you a civil generalFeb 16 21:21
gde33people should admire you for thatFeb 16 21:21
qu1j0t3and they donate food?Feb 16 21:21
gde33a great honor to have you as a guestFeb 16 21:21
gde33it doesnt matter what we give them, just as long as they dont suck up all the moneyFeb 16 21:22
qu1j0t3"look at him, he's a general, so awful to have him crawling in the gutter like that, here have some fries"Feb 16 21:22
qu1j0t3yeah i'd totally volunteerFeb 16 21:22
gde33give them a huge house Feb 16 21:22
qu1j0t3how you going to pay for the house?Feb 16 21:22
qu1j0t3or is land free too?Feb 16 21:22
qu1j0t3and labour?Feb 16 21:23
qu1j0t3or you just confiscate it from non-generals?Feb 16 21:23
gde33we take all their money if they reach 500 mFeb 16 21:23
qu1j0t3hm...Feb 16 21:23
gde33then you've won the gameFeb 16 21:23
qu1j0t3what if they take their 500 m right out of your country?Feb 16 21:23
qu1j0t3this never happens int he real world of courseFeb 16 21:23
gde33it should be worth every pennyFeb 16 21:23
MinceRdoesn't sound like a good idea at allFeb 16 21:24
gde33you can still build more credentialsFeb 16 21:24
gde33in stead of more wealthFeb 16 21:24
gde33500 m is entry levelFeb 16 21:24
qu1j0t3so at 500 m , all your money is confiscated, and you get a certificate?Feb 16 21:24
qu1j0t3who runs the house?Feb 16 21:24
gde33robots ofc!Feb 16 21:25
gde33fembotsFeb 16 21:25
qu1j0t3i... cFeb 16 21:25
SosumiI think you guys are sweeting it too muchFeb 16 21:25
gde33it is not depressing enough?Feb 16 21:25
Sosumijust transplant the US as it was initially thought out by the founding fathersFeb 16 21:25
gde33you dont have to come with us, you can just stay behind in lala landFeb 16 21:25
Sosumiand run it in a Hamiltonian fashionFeb 16 21:26
Sosumimuch simpler and effectiveFeb 16 21:26
qu1j0t3just mark it clearly on a map so that i can keep the fuck awayFeb 16 21:26
qu1j0t3whatever you nerds figure outFeb 16 21:26
gde33qu1j0t3: we can give them personel for the house but they will have to earn that of courseFeb 16 21:26
MinceRslaves?Feb 16 21:26
gde33employeesFeb 16 21:27
gde33paid for by the stateFeb 16 21:27
qu1j0t3gde33: by 'house' i mean, the casino, the state that has the power to confiscate all your money and issue certificates allowing you to beg for foodFeb 16 21:27
DaemonFCLiberia's government was modeled after ours. I think that proves that simply having an American-style of government doesn't mean prosperity.Feb 16 21:27
Sosumiit depends on how you run the country afterwardsFeb 16 21:27
gde33qu1j0t3: imagining something that doens't work is easyFeb 16 21:27
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: or, just ask 90% of americansFeb 16 21:27
gde33qu1j0t3: and senselessFeb 16 21:28
qu1j0t3gde33: tell me about it!Feb 16 21:28
gde33you think you can take my grand vision and poke holes in it from the armchair Feb 16 21:28
gde33but that is exactly what we will be abandoningFeb 16 21:28
gde33we leave all those people who can imagine things going wrong behindFeb 16 21:28
qu1j0t3yesFeb 16 21:28
qu1j0t3good luck and allFeb 16 21:28
gde33we only bring people who can imagine how to make things workFeb 16 21:28
qu1j0t3or, just write a bookFeb 16 21:28
gde33just like in muricaFeb 16 21:29
qu1j0t3"NEW COUNTRY. GREAT PEOPLE WELCOME. NO LOSERS"Feb 16 21:29
gde33NO LOSERS!Feb 16 21:29
qu1j0t3how you going to buy the land?Feb 16 21:29
gde33big sign by the borderFeb 16 21:29
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qu1j0t3"ABILITY TO PLAY BASS GUITAR AN ASSET."Feb 16 21:29
MinceRbut how will you leave reality itself behind when it won't let things work? :>Feb 16 21:29
gde33Bir Tawil is not claimedFeb 16 21:29
Sosumiask Jenny to print the money?Feb 16 21:29
qu1j0t3MinceR: you are just poking holes in it from your armchairFeb 16 21:29
MinceRnopeFeb 16 21:30
qu1j0t3MinceR: you're the kind of person who won't be invited!Feb 16 21:30
MinceRthis chair has no armsFeb 16 21:30
MinceR:>Feb 16 21:30
gde33MinceR: yeah, as if doom thinkers have a patent on reality, dont make me laughFeb 16 21:30
qu1j0t3MinceR: does it go round in circles like this one?Feb 16 21:30
MinceRgde33: nobody doesFeb 16 21:30
qu1j0t3MinceR: this one has WHEELSFeb 16 21:30
gde33what if you fall on your face and break your nose?Feb 16 21:30
gde33what then?Feb 16 21:30
gde33hahaFeb 16 21:30
MinceRqu1j0t3: this one has wheels tooFeb 16 21:30
qu1j0t3gde33: well, i'm in canada, so i go to the hospital.Feb 16 21:30
MinceRlolFeb 16 21:30
qu1j0t3gde33: ymmvFeb 16 21:30
gde33what if you have a country full of lusers, how make democracy work?Feb 16 21:31
gde33nothing good will come of itFeb 16 21:31
MinceRi think if you moved into Bir Tawil and claimed it, sunddenly both Egypt and Sudan would both realize they both want it a lotFeb 16 21:31
MinceRs/undd/udd/Feb 16 21:31
gde33yeah, you are a fine doom thinkerFeb 16 21:31
gde33they will be so upset over that bit of sand Feb 16 21:32
gde33just machine gun themFeb 16 21:32
gde33easy enoughFeb 16 21:32
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_MinervaFeb 16 21:32
gde33no lusers remember?Feb 16 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Minerva Reefs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gmzxd ]Feb 16 21:32
gde33I can hear you thinking already, what if the sun doesnt set?Feb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3gde33: you shoot the losers.Feb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3gde33: history tells us this is a very popular solution.Feb 16 21:33
gde33ofc, in the face from the hipFeb 16 21:33
gde33lolFeb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3and it totally worksFeb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3look aroundFeb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3all the countries that shot their losers are thrivingFeb 16 21:33
gde33it is what got us here!Feb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3we lost the losers so many times we lost countFeb 16 21:34
qu1j0t3there can't be any left nowFeb 16 21:34
gde33I live in the Netherlands, we did a great job looting everythingFeb 16 21:34
qu1j0t3you starve them, like palestiniansFeb 16 21:34
qu1j0t3gde33: i doubt there are any losers in the netherlandsFeb 16 21:34
qu1j0t3gde33: not after wwii anywayFeb 16 21:34
gde33lots of them, arguably it is full of drones hereFeb 16 21:34
qu1j0t3how do you spot them?Feb 16 21:35
qu1j0t3do they wear a helpful yellow star or something?Feb 16 21:35
qu1j0t3maybe you can tattoo the losersFeb 16 21:35
MinceRlolFeb 16 21:35
qu1j0t3so that they don't board the plane to your nerdtopiaFeb 16 21:35
gde33they have huge social support, then you propose business models to them and they look at you like puppies, as if they are poor.Feb 16 21:35
Sosumihttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560494/Worlds-largest-solar-farm-SCORCHING-BIRDS-fly-it.htmlFeb 16 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | World's largest solar farm is SCORCHING BIRDS that fly over it | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gmzxo ]Feb 16 21:35
gde33then they cry about not being able to get a jobFeb 16 21:35
qu1j0t3yeah, they're draining the welfare stateFeb 16 21:35
gde33that is because no one is hiringFeb 16 21:36
Sosumiinvest in real alternativesFeb 16 21:36
qu1j0t3they've always been a burden on humanityFeb 16 21:36
Sosumilike fusionFeb 16 21:36
qu1j0t3on good peopleFeb 16 21:36
gde33because no one is starting anythingFeb 16 21:36
qu1j0t3gde33: you should find a way to convert the losers into food for your nation of winnersFeb 16 21:36
qu1j0t3gde33: food, soap, hair carpets and suchFeb 16 21:36
gde33we have like 5% geniuses and the rest all dronesFeb 16 21:36
qu1j0t3gde33: i know, right?Feb 16 21:36
gde33I was thinking biogasFeb 16 21:37
gde33big tankFeb 16 21:37
gde33put them all insideFeb 16 21:37
qu1j0t3yeah gasFeb 16 21:37
Sosumiinstead of bird slicing (windfarms) and now, scorching, "sillynesses"Feb 16 21:37
qu1j0t3a historically sound choiceFeb 16 21:37
gde33but I will make it easy not to be a looserFeb 16 21:37
qu1j0t3gde33: what if being a loser is fractal thoughFeb 16 21:37
qu1j0t3gde33: what if you take your 5% geniuses, and find out that 95% of them are losers, relative to the nerdtopia?Feb 16 21:38
MinceRor you could pyrolyse themFeb 16 21:38
MinceRor make biodiesel from themFeb 16 21:38
qu1j0t3extract the gold fillings firstFeb 16 21:38
qu1j0t3all that wealth they aren't entitled toFeb 16 21:39
gde33I will probably end up in the biogas production apparatus myself. That will justify all my deeds.Feb 16 21:39
gde33Make a nice speech about a good death.Feb 16 21:39
gde33tell people to take good care of themselves, and remember, no loosers!Feb 16 21:39
qu1j0t3oh, no, i'm sure you'll be hailed as the visionary you areFeb 16 21:39
qu1j0t3no lonely suicide in a bunker for youFeb 16 21:39
gde33shitFeb 16 21:39
gde33then I will spend my days facepalming, it is all the same to me.Feb 16 21:40
gde33the only real point I have is that it is easy to shut down your imagination with a doom cenario that will never happen.Feb 16 21:40
qu1j0t3what doom scenario?Feb 16 21:41
MinceRyou build a pair of teleporters and demons come pouring out of bothFeb 16 21:41
qu1j0t3there are no flaws in your planFeb 16 21:41
gde33the one imagined by the loosers ofcFeb 16 21:41
MinceRand take over your basesFeb 16 21:41
MinceR:>Feb 16 21:41
gde33no need teliport, use remote controlled fembotsFeb 16 21:41
qu1j0t3your plan is perfect. Take 1 million people. Remove all the losers. Start afresh in a new, verdant land.Feb 16 21:41
gde33streaming techFeb 16 21:41
qu1j0t3it cannot CANNOT failFeb 16 21:41
gde33the loosers dont need removing, they are terrified by the idea aloneFeb 16 21:42
qu1j0t3well yes, the intelligent onesFeb 16 21:42
gde33just the idea to do something ambitiousFeb 16 21:42
gde33that has to be the most terrifying thing in the gallaxyFeb 16 21:42
qu1j0t3so you should start advertising.Feb 16 21:42
qu1j0t3but i'm just curious where all this land isFeb 16 21:42
qu1j0t3that y'all are goin gto live onFeb 16 21:42
gde33depends on the budgetFeb 16 21:43
qu1j0t3how much hav eyou raised?Feb 16 21:43
qu1j0t3Manhattan's not as cheap as it used to beFeb 16 21:43
gde33underground is goodFeb 16 21:43
gde33just start digging under the houseFeb 16 21:43
gde33lolFeb 16 21:44
qu1j0t3bunkerFeb 16 21:44
MinceRgde33: i don't remember any fembots from DoomFeb 16 21:44
gde33freefight as the national sportsFeb 16 21:45
gde33think of bitcoin, the nerd money is going to ponzi like a naked clown on a speedboatFeb 16 21:46
gde33money backed by loosers didnt workFeb 16 21:47
gde33that was just boo hoo national debt, we can never pay for this, boo hooo *insert imaginary doom cenario*Feb 16 21:48
qu1j0t3watFeb 16 21:48
qu1j0t3gde33: i assume all the alpha-members of your society will have 'ranting on irc' as their main activity?Feb 16 21:49
qu1j0t3cuz that's not something losers do amiriteFeb 16 21:49
gde33alphalalandFeb 16 21:49
gde33how dare you call my utopia ranting :PFeb 16 21:51
gde33real time elections would be coolFeb 16 21:54
gde33if the politician starts talking dumb shit you just click the red button behind his nameFeb 16 21:54
gde333 min later he is on the streetFeb 16 21:54
gde33ohh copyright law, RIGHT, click.... *the end*Feb 16 21:54
gde33that was easy?Feb 16 21:55
gde33but first you have to get the voting diplomaFeb 16 21:55
gde33volentary taxesFeb 16 21:56
gde33brain scan the politicians before useFeb 16 21:57
gde33see if all parts of the brain are really workingFeb 16 21:57
gde33the lizard guy might not be a looser, he isnt a good leaderFeb 16 21:57
*qu1j0t3 nods, edges to the channel exitFeb 16 21:59
gde33lolFeb 16 22:02
gde33http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrVe7jJE__MFeb 16 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Russell Brand to Channel 4's Jon Snow; "Listen you, Let me Talk" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn03d ]Feb 16 22:10
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roy_https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/435170225386840064?refsrc=emailFeb 16 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@davidgerard: Oh, @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven The H-Online UK archive appears to be up again, with old URLs working. Good!!Feb 16 22:34
roy_Thanks to work from former writers. Good job. And pressure helped, just like w/ LinuxDevicesFeb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines@davidgerard     Oh, @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven TheFeb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    H-Online UK archive appears to be up again,Feb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines    with old URLs working. Good!!Feb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn07sFeb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     @davidgerard @schestowitz @glynmoody @lprovenFeb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Thanks to work from former writers. Good job.Feb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines                 And pressure helped, just like w/ LinuxDevicesFeb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn07uFeb 16 22:34
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '@davidgerard @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven Thanks to work from...'Feb 16 22:36
roy_https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435140523142033408  https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435140773407776768 https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435141027297366017  https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435142288755273728   https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435142406330011648Feb 16 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz It's a shame, because the values Diaspora stuck by were excellent, for me its audience was too limited to be a useful venue.Feb 16 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz Having said that G+ is rather dire and FB is only for family, So that really leaves blog and Twitter as my main outlets.Feb 16 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz Yes I think within the tech/foss movement its fantastic, however my writing and interests are now diversifying in other areas.Feb 16 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz I know, but its hardly the panacea for mainstream interests.Where's the WH40k or Luton Town groups (in respect of my interests)Feb 16 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz because if it was, then it would attract the numbers and diverse interests of twitter. Then I'd be back there.Feb 16 22:37
*TweetTuxMachines @davidgerard retweeted @tuxmachines: '@davidgerard @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven Thanks to work from...'Feb 16 22:48
TweetTuxMachines@davidgerard     @tuxmachines @schestowitz @glynmoody @lprovenFeb 16 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 my sincere thanks to @heiseonline for restoringFeb 16 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 the archive, particularly for Wikipedia refs!Feb 16 22:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn0a4Feb 16 22:49
SosumiI see you guys have finally found your islandFeb 16 22:57
Sosumisomewhere in the land of imagination :)Feb 16 22:58
SosumignFeb 16 22:58
MinceRo/Feb 16 22:58
qu1j0t3yeah it's like that island at the end of SolarisFeb 16 22:59
MinceRgnFeb 16 23:23
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DaemonFCI responded to an NBC story about a Satanist teen murdering 22 people.Feb 17 01:55
DaemonFC6 minutes ago · EditedFeb 17 01:55
DaemonFCWhile horrible, 22 people isn't a huge body count for an Abrahamic religion. The teen would have to murder 22 people, per day, for several thousand years, to catch up to the current body count of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. The so-called "religions of peace". And that doesn't count keeping up with the increasing body count of the Big Three over that time period. 22 per day would actually leave Satanism falling behind the others. Someone Feb 17 01:55
DaemonFCtold me a few days ago that the Christians need to pass things like HJR-3 and re-impose "sodomy laws" to protect themselves from gay people. I replied, "That's a little like saying that the 9/11 hijackers had to protect themselves from the people in the buildings.".Feb 17 01:55
qu1j0t3LOLFeb 17 02:11
qu1j0t3about rightFeb 17 02:11
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gde33We humans have great skill for repeating and reinventing our mistakes. Something like : if you dont like sodomy laws you must have something to hideFeb 17 05:46
gde33moderation doesnt seem the key, we have to develop it into something absurd enough that no one wants it anymore.Feb 17 05:53
gde33like theoretical physicsFeb 17 05:57
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3654062Feb 17 06:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3654062 )Feb 17 06:57
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gde33I had this idea for a garbage exchange long ago, not sure if anything like it exists, the idea is to exhange meaningless data between otherwise unrelated nodes.Feb 17 08:56
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gde33best encryption is if there is nothing in the messageFeb 17 08:57
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cousin_luigiGreetings.Feb 17 10:53
gde33hiFeb 17 10:53
gde33I was just looking at the channel just nowFeb 17 10:53
cousin_luigilikewiseFeb 17 10:54
gde33kinda strange you would say something right nowFeb 17 10:54
cousin_luigiI think I am in the wrong place. I was looking for linux gizmos.Feb 17 10:54
gde33define gizmo?Feb 17 10:54
cousin_luigilike the rPi or the sheevaplug for exampleFeb 17 10:54
gde33there are a bunch of channels for a bunch of topicsFeb 17 10:54
cousin_luigiWhat do you mean?Feb 17 10:55
gde33'#raspberrypiFeb 17 10:55
cousin_luigiI found a link to this channel on an article about linuxgizmos.Feb 17 10:55
gde33#raspberrypiFeb 17 10:55
gde33o icFeb 17 10:55
cousin_luigigde33: But I don't want a rPi, I'm looking for a generic channel.Feb 17 10:55
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gde33there is ##programming and ##hardware Feb 17 10:56
gde33and #defocusFeb 17 10:57
MinceRi think he was looking for tuxmachinesFeb 17 10:57
gde33I didn't notice he just leftFeb 17 10:59
gde33what a dickFeb 17 10:59
gde33they should be glad not to have him :PFeb 17 10:59
gde33you have all these helpful channels on irc, people log in, ask questions, if they get an answer or not they leave rightaway, often with some knee jerk remark complaining about the help.Feb 17 11:03
gde33it seems to get worse by the yearFeb 17 11:03
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Sosumihttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560871/Crackshot-Harry-buffalo-killer-Picture-emerges-princes-call-protect-wildlife.htmlFeb 17 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Crackshot Harry, the buffalo killer: Picture emerges after prince's call to protect wildlife | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gn2z8 ]Feb 17 11:04
Sosumiso, besides being royal parasitesFeb 17 11:04
Sosumithey're alsoFeb 17 11:04
Sosumiroyal hypocritesFeb 17 11:04
gde33what nice people we must be for not killing themFeb 17 11:05
SosumiyepFeb 17 11:05
Sosumitomorrows programFeb 17 11:05
SosumiregicideFeb 17 11:05
gde33sarah palin aerial huntingFeb 17 11:05
gde33http://www.grizzlybay.org/LearnMore/sarah%20palin%20images/palincaribouhunt.jpgFeb 17 11:06
gde33from a helicopterFeb 17 11:06
SosumimehFeb 17 11:07
Sosumikilling just for killing is wrongFeb 17 11:07
gde33Sarah Palin approved a $400,000 state-funded propaganda campaign to promote aerial hunting.Feb 17 11:07
gde33the Center for Biological Diversity and allies sued the administration, winning a temporary ruling stopping the killing in July. But rather than continue to fight us in court, the administration formally revoked its previous decision and return the wolf to the endangered species list as a fully protected species.Feb 17 11:09
gde33but not before they shot 100Feb 17 11:10
gde33and with automatic weaponsFeb 17 11:11
gde33a sort of unlimited madnessFeb 17 11:12
gde33I was just wondering, with the genetic engineering, at what point do people loose their rights?Feb 17 11:13
gde33what percentage of human genome do you need to enjoy rights?Feb 17 11:13
gde33For example the brain of a sperm whale and that of an orca are larger, and more complex than human brains.Feb 17 11:15
gde33but they dont get any rightsFeb 17 11:15
gde33we may also be able to extend our brain with electronicsFeb 17 11:16
gde33and eventually replace it?Feb 17 11:16
gde33does that make the person intelectual property?Feb 17 11:16
gde33aka slavery?Feb 17 11:16
gde33If you need some upgrade or a substance (drug) we may already deny you this and let you die in stead. Purely on the basis of copyrights.Feb 17 11:18
iophkpatentsFeb 17 11:18
gde33intelectual propertyFeb 17 11:18
MinceRimaginary propertyFeb 17 11:20
gde33We dont have living software today but we shouldn't make laws that are unrealistic on the long term?Feb 17 11:20
gde33there is a legal loophole here that allows you to renovate part of a house, if it is less than a given percentage it isn't considered a new building.Feb 17 11:21
gde33but you may do renovations again and again.Feb 17 11:21
gde33arguably you can replace part of the human body step by step until you have nothing left but electronics?Feb 17 11:21
gde33boil the frog slow enough and no one will argue the person doesn't exist anymoreFeb 17 11:22
gde33to make it more fun, there are people functioning with less than half the brain mass. Maybe we can fork a person? :PFeb 17 11:23
gde33does the "other" guy have rights?Feb 17 11:23
gde33we also have laws for selling human body parts, asshes and remainsFeb 17 11:25
gde33lolFeb 17 11:25
gde33http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/remains.htmlFeb 17 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pages.ebay.com | Human remains and body parts policy [ http://ur1.ca/gn35i ]Feb 17 11:29
gde33Clean, articulated (jointed), non-Native American skulls and skeletons used for medical research.Feb 17 11:30
iophkhttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/mosaid-doubles-in-size-and-becomes-conversant-2013-09-19Feb 17 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwatch.com | MOSAID Doubles In Size and Becomes Conversant - MarketWatch [ http://ur1.ca/gn36a ]Feb 17 11:34
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iophkhttp://mediagoblin.org/Feb 17 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mediagoblin.org | MediaGoblinFeb 17 16:42
Sosumihttp://rt.com/usa/father-beaten-death-oklahoma-cops-433/Feb 17 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gn54l ]Feb 17 16:58
Sosumi"Father trying to stop family fight beaten to death by Oklahoma cops"Feb 17 16:58
Sosumigo to the USA? not even onceFeb 17 16:59
Sosumihttp://www.playerattack.com/news/2014/02/17/report-valve-anti-cheat-scans-your-dns-history/Feb 17 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.playerattack.com | Report: Valve anti-cheat scans your DNS history « Player Attack [ http://ur1.ca/gn552 ]Feb 17 17:02
Sosumiwell ofc, captain obviousFeb 17 17:03
SosumiVAC does it, EA's Origin does it and blizzard's warden does it tooFeb 17 17:03
MinceRit's good that they call attention to the fact that DNS history should be protected against such snooping :>Feb 17 17:04
Sosumiprobably with the added doubt that they also collect info of what is in the ramFeb 17 17:05
Sosumipunkbuster sure does thatFeb 17 17:05
Sosumi"Valve is looking at your browsing history right now, if a recent report is to be believed. It seems that the company's Valve Anti Cheat system (VAC) reportedly looks at all the domains you have visited, and if it finds that you've frequented hack sites, who knows what actions it will take.Feb 17 17:06
Sosumi"Feb 17 17:06
SosumiyayFeb 17 17:07
Sosumistill want steam (even in mind that you're just leasing the games for unlimited time)? or hype steam on gnu/linuxFeb 17 17:09
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/02/next-metal-gear-solid-runs-1080p-on-ps4-720p-on-xbox-one/Feb 17 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Next Metal Gear Solid runs 1080p on PS4, 720p on Xbox One | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gn567 ]Feb 17 17:09
Sosumixbone the weakest console confirmed once againFeb 17 17:10
Sosumion the otehr sideFeb 17 17:16
Sosumilithuania is meeting euro targetsFeb 17 17:16
Sosumiwhich means, it too is brokeFeb 17 17:17
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MinceRsee, that's what SteamOS and Steam Machines are for -- to isolate steam so it doesn't get to spy on you. :>Feb 17 17:20
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Sosumione of the poorest excuses I've ever heard...Feb 17 17:21
Sosumiwhat about spying being "unethical"?Feb 17 17:21
Sosumialso steam machine, steam os...Feb 17 17:22
Sosumidid you know that the both the ps3 and xbox 360sent info mack to their respective platform holdersFeb 17 17:22
Sosumiabout the kind of tv you were using and what devices you had on your network?Feb 17 17:23
MinceRi don't know what they didFeb 17 17:23
Sosumiand more recently lg tvs were sending back to lg info about what files you played on the smart tvFeb 17 17:24
MinceRindeed.Feb 17 17:25
Sosumiand I bet for sure that valve has some kind of "poison" on their steam osFeb 17 17:25
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Sosumiand one is already confirmedFeb 17 17:25
SosumivacFeb 17 17:25
iophkhttp://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/open-source-startups-dont-try-be-red-hat-236385Feb 17 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Open source startups: Don't try to be Red Hat | Open Source Software - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gn58z ]Feb 17 17:26
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Sosumiand yes, lithuania is supposed to join the euro in january of next yearFeb 17 17:31
Sosumiand the trashcan pro shipping date slides once againFeb 17 17:36
Sosuminow to aprilFeb 17 17:36
Sosumiby that time nvidia has already launched their new 800 seriesFeb 17 17:36
Sosumiand so has amd probably introduced some new fire pro cards (the real ones)Feb 17 17:37
Sosumiand intel lowered the prices of the cpusFeb 17 17:37
Sosumimaking the trashcan totally uncompetitiveFeb 17 17:37
MinceRso, business as usual for appleFeb 17 17:38
Sosumiand seem like a total turd (more than it already is) when compared to a custom built or hp z workstationFeb 17 17:38
Sosuminow imagine, if you're running mission critical stuff on some of the old mac prosFeb 17 17:39
Sosumiand it breaksFeb 17 17:39
Sosumiand you still have stuff tied to osxFeb 17 17:39
Sosumiwell, better not jinx itFeb 17 17:40
Sosumi:)Feb 17 17:40
MinceRyou've already jinxed itFeb 17 17:41
MinceRby having mission critical stuff depend on apple stuffFeb 17 17:41
Sosumiit was a matter of economicsFeb 17 17:41
Sosumiback in 2009 you could buy a maxed dual xeon mac pro for cheaper than a hp z800Feb 17 17:43
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Sosumiand I didn't have much need for 100GB of ram nor SASFeb 17 17:44
Sosumiso it made sense to buy itFeb 17 17:44
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Sosumibut I did consider at the time going custom built as they no longer used ppcFeb 17 17:45
MinceRit was almost certainly lower quality, thoughFeb 17 17:45
SosuminahFeb 17 17:46
Sosumiit is okFeb 17 17:46
Sosumiboard was made by foxxcomFeb 17 17:46
Sosumiincluding the designFeb 17 17:46
Sosumiand the printing actually looks much better and cleaner than a top asus boardFeb 17 17:47
MinceRfoxconnFeb 17 17:47
Sosumithe PSU was made by deltaFeb 17 17:47
MinceRthe board isn't everything, thoughFeb 17 17:47
MinceRso, does hp use asus, then? :>Feb 17 17:47
Sosumithe default ram was made by hynixFeb 17 17:47
Sosumihp outsources to asus sometimesFeb 17 17:48
Sosumiand at least during the nehalem timeFeb 17 17:48
Sosumithey were using ram manufactured by samsungFeb 17 17:48
Sosumiwhich is also the same ram I am usingFeb 17 17:49
Sosumihp rebranded samsung sticksFeb 17 17:49
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Sosumiand they were cheaper and better than what apple was sellingFeb 17 17:50
Sosumithe default hynix ram didn't have heatspreaders, hp's hasFeb 17 17:51
Sosumibut all else was pretty mmuch the sameFeb 17 17:51
Sosumitypical default spec for 1066 ddr3 eccFeb 17 17:52
Sosumionly big nonos were the gpu offersFeb 17 17:53
Sosumihd4870 (lol) on the high endFeb 17 17:53
Sosumibut evga did come to the rescue by offering the gtx285Feb 17 17:54
Sosumiand a crappy dvd burnerFeb 17 17:54
Sosumiwhich ended up being my first victimFeb 17 17:54
Sosumias I tossed it out and put two hdds on the optical slotsFeb 17 17:55
MinceRhm, the firefox configure script has a message saying "Reticulating splines..." :)Feb 17 17:56
Sosumihttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33717226/Hack5.JPGFeb 17 17:59
Sosumithat's a westemere based hp z800Feb 17 17:59
abeNd-orgMinceR: sounds like someone played a little too much of The SimsFeb 17 17:59
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Sosumidensely populated board and without the possibility of having 4 gpus at 16xFeb 17 18:02
Sosumithe evga sr2 was a much better offerFeb 17 18:02
Sosumiconsidering the specsFeb 17 18:02
MinceRindeed :>Feb 17 18:03
MinceRor simcity 2000Feb 17 18:03
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iophkhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/2013-linuxquestions-org-members-choice-award-winners-4175493696/Feb 17 18:52
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DaemonFCA Republican told me that if people hate their crappy Walmart job, then they're free to quit and work somewhere else.Feb 17 19:19
DaemonFCI replied "If there was somewhere else to work, they'd already be working there, dumbass."Feb 17 19:19
DaemonFCThe only thing that such a job is good for is as a gateway to social assistance programs. Since most Walmart workers can't make more than about $200-250 a week, which hasn't paid the bills since the early 1990s, they work these bad jobs so that they can get access to food assistance and public health insurance programs.Feb 17 19:19
DaemonFCWalmart's former CEO, H. Lee Scott, who was the CEO when I worked there, said that Walmart had no intention of "competing" with Medicaid, because it was "a better deal" than their own insurance program.Feb 17 19:19
abeNd-orgwhich is what most companies will say & start dumping their people into the exchangesFeb 17 19:20
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DaemonFCshared Occupy Democrats's photo.Feb 17 19:35
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DaemonFCThe right-wing obsession with life only applies to unborn fetuses. We progressives are the only political persuasion that has a comprehensive pro-life program to offer.Feb 17 19:35
DaemonFCGeorge Carlin was right on when he said that once you're born, the right to lifers don't ever want to hear from you again, until you're old enough to join the military, and then you're just what they've been looking for. Maybe that's why the US is only slightly ahead of Romania for child poverty rates.Feb 17 19:35
DaemonFCAs a Humanist, I feel that I need to call attention to the horrors and ravages of American crapitalism, because it's the right thing to do. The American people never get bailed out. Only the rich criminals get bailed out.Feb 17 19:35
DaemonFCFor example, the government only spends $60 billion a year on affordable housing programs, but they spend over $100 billion on the "mortgage interest tax credit", which goes mostly to households with six or seven figure incomes, who don't need it.Feb 17 19:35
DaemonFCWhat little public housing does exist is the decaying remains of projects that were built 50 years ago. That's why the waiting lists are five years long and the Fort Wayne Rescue Mission is always filled to capacity, leaving (mostly) men to freeze to death in peoples front lawns.Feb 17 19:35
DaemonFCThere's usually over a half dozen corpses found frozen in peoples lawns in Fort Wayne every single year. This is wrong. This is messed up.Feb 17 19:35
DaemonFCThe Republicans are basically telling unemployable workers that "We no longer need you and you can go die now.".Feb 17 19:35
DaemonFCPeople who have very little are hanging on and don't want to rock the boat because they are afraid that they'll lose what they have left. That is one of the reasons why the Republicans hate Obamacare. It makes it harder for employers to beat workers over the head with the threat of being let go and losing their healthcare.Feb 17 19:35
DaemonFCI comment on a lot of these posts. :PFeb 17 19:35
gde33DaemonFC: not sure if that are the republicans, even the victims are shopping at wallmart.Feb 17 19:39
gde33slavery was ended by not buying products made by slavesFeb 17 19:39
gde33so there is no excuse for itFeb 17 19:39
gde33here people complaint that every restaurant is owned by immigrants, then they go eat there.Feb 17 19:42
gde33not some of the time, always.Feb 17 19:42
DaemonFCAs an assistant manager at Walmart, your pay cap and raises are based largely on your willingness to move.Feb 17 19:43
DaemonFCIf you aren't willing to move every 18 months then you quickly hit the pay cap and your chances to be promoted any further are basically zero. You hit a brick wall. One of the other assistants had worked at that position for over 10 years, and hadn't gotten a raise in over 5 years, because he didn't want to move every year and a half. Feb 17 19:43
gde33I dont like what happens but it seems fine to ask people to dig their own grave?Feb 17 19:45
gde33You cant help people who dont want to be helped.Feb 17 19:45
gde33But should you try?Feb 17 19:45
gde33I believe the ultimate solution for the merican government is to go to war, then just commandeer all the big corporations.Feb 17 19:46
gde33As a sort of : "haha, sucks to be you"Feb 17 19:46
gde33the stocks would be worthless, all the value would go into the dollar.Feb 17 19:49
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gde33Or anti wallmart campaining, I suppose that could work, if people are inspired enough.Feb 17 19:52
gde33Americans are still closer than people in Europe, it wouldn't be as hard as hereFeb 17 19:53
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DaemonFCThis is why I don't like to watch TV "news".Feb 17 19:54
DaemonFCWANE 15 is going to give equal footing to an anti-vaccine nutcase to argue with an actual medical doctor.Feb 17 19:54
DaemonFCWhen you're "fair and balanced" to a fault, it's going to give the appearance of legitimacy to some really stupid people. Indiana already has a problem with right-wing conspiracy theorist and other derelict parents who aren't getting their kids vaccinated.Feb 17 19:54
DaemonFCWe can't afford to lend these people some credibility.Feb 17 19:54
gde33DaemonFC: I thought you left because of what I said.Feb 17 19:54
gde33I've been getting that a lot lately on irc. :(Feb 17 19:54
DaemonFCNo. I left because my internet connection resets a lot when I am torrenting.Feb 17 19:54
DaemonFCProbably deliberate. (Comcast)Feb 17 19:54
gde33Ah, then I'm on the right track :DFeb 17 19:55
gde33hahaFeb 17 19:55
gde33[20:48:43] <gde33> the stocks would be worthless, all the value would go into the dollar.Feb 17 19:55
gde33[20:52:10] <gde33> Or anti wallmart campaining, I suppose that could work, if people are inspired enough.Feb 17 19:55
gde33[20:53:08] <gde33> Americans are still closer than people in Europe, it wouldn't be as hard as hereFeb 17 19:55
gde33not all vaccination has humanitarian motivesFeb 17 19:57
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gde33there have been many cases where civilian vaccines are all of a sudden not good enough for the militaryFeb 17 19:57
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gde33or vaccines for africa not fit for westernersFeb 17 19:57
gde33the German government went as far as to order a special vaccine for politiciansFeb 17 19:58
gde33there is some congressional record from a doctor studing cancer when the cancer epedemic startedFeb 17 19:58
gde33he wrote that he had never seen cancer in someone who wasn't vaccinatedFeb 17 19:58
DaemonFCPeople are running out of money and the collateral and credit ratings needed to enable new debt.Feb 17 19:59
gde33then there is this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_anomalyFeb 17 19:59
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DaemonFCSo, Walmart's US sales are starting to turn negative.Feb 17 19:59
DaemonFC*sales growthFeb 17 19:59
gde33niceFeb 17 19:59
DaemonFCThe banks don't see any need to take on liability for personal loans when they can make more money by parking money that they borrowed at 0.25% in their Fed accounts, and earn 0.75% on it risk-free.Feb 17 20:00
DaemonFCThe way to stimulate the economy would be to keep borrowing rates low, but implement a negative interest on excess reserves.Feb 17 20:00
gde33we should abolish interest ratesFeb 17 20:01
gde33just make it illegalFeb 17 20:01
DaemonFCThe FED should implement a -1% NIRP on excess reserves.Feb 17 20:03
DaemonFCWatch how fast the banks pull the money out and start lending it.Feb 17 20:04
gde33couldn't property tax do that?Feb 17 20:04
DaemonFCNo.Feb 17 20:04
DaemonFCIndiana's tax policies are highly regressive though, since you mentioned property tax.Feb 17 20:04
gde33sounds interesting to punish hoardersFeb 17 20:04
gde33they are like a plagueFeb 17 20:04
DaemonFCI think that the property tax rate should start out at 1% for the lowest valued homes and properties, and work its way up to 5% for the highest valued properties and homes.Feb 17 20:05
DaemonFCUse the extra money to cut the sales tax from 7% to 3%.Feb 17 20:05
DaemonFCThey'd never do it because it would increase the tax burden on the rich while giving the poor a lot more money to spend.Feb 17 20:05
gde33I would like to see 75% for the highest value propertiesFeb 17 20:06
gde33explode the housing bubbleFeb 17 20:06
DaemonFCIt would basically be a $500 a year tax cut for a person making $20,000 a year.Feb 17 20:06
DaemonFCThen they could spend the extra money and create more jobs in Indiana.Feb 17 20:06
gde33ideally, like in software, we would have a formula that takes real world values and calculate the rate out of thoseFeb 17 20:07
DaemonFCThen I would increase the tax on a pack of cigarettes from 99 cents per pack to $2 per pack, and use the extra money to abolish the state income tax completely.Feb 17 20:07
gde33I just bought tobaccoFeb 17 20:07
gde338 euro and 20 centsFeb 17 20:07
DaemonFCThe tax hike would bring in extra money and reduce outlays for the Medicaid program.Feb 17 20:08
gde33and a dark one, 8 euro and 80 cent, without the papersFeb 17 20:08
DaemonFCSo it would free up enough money in the budget to cut the income tax from 3.4% to 0.Feb 17 20:08
gde33it is lame in that smokers dont make much use of healthcareFeb 17 20:08
gde33they usually just dieFeb 17 20:08
DaemonFCActually, they do.Feb 17 20:08
gde33the last few years are most expensiveFeb 17 20:09
DaemonFC"Hey doc! Quit bitching at me about the cigarettes and just give me a $400 a month inhaler so I feel a bit better as I die!"Feb 17 20:09
gde33smokers dont have those yearsFeb 17 20:09
DaemonFCI know I'd make a better governor than that piece of crap that currently occupies the office.Feb 17 20:09
DaemonFCI'd have Indiana humming again in a couple of years Feb 17 20:10
DaemonFCI'd call special sessions of the Indiana General Assembly every day, even on Christmas, until they agreed to implement my policies.Feb 17 20:10
DaemonFCI think they'd come around pretty fast when you increase their work year from 90 days to 365.Feb 17 20:11
DaemonFCgde33: They wouldn't like it even with the extra pay.Feb 17 20:12
DaemonFCThe salary for a state representative or Senator is not that much.Feb 17 20:12
gde3390 days is of course rediculousFeb 17 20:12
DaemonFCMost of them only officially make about as much per year as a part time Walmart employee.Feb 17 20:12
DaemonFCMost of them do it because of the perks, from organizations like ALEC.Feb 17 20:12
DaemonFCYeah, so they'd get sick of showing up 365 days a year for about $17,000.Feb 17 20:13
gde33Russell Brand seems to have found a nice loophole.Feb 17 20:13
DaemonFCI have a feeling they'd start negotiating with me.Feb 17 20:13
gde33It is far more interesting than he is given credit for.Feb 17 20:13
gde33He is interested in representing people rather than politicsFeb 17 20:13
DaemonFCThe governor is able to do that. The constitution says that the governor can call a special session whenever he wants.Feb 17 20:13
gde33But how do you get in office?Feb 17 20:14
gde33That is the big question.Feb 17 20:14
DaemonFCThat's the hard part.Feb 17 20:14
DaemonFC:)Feb 17 20:14
gde33that is why Brands trick is so intersting to me.Feb 17 20:14
gde33He just represents peopleFeb 17 20:15
gde33then existing polticians, whoever they are, are left to deal with it.Feb 17 20:15
gde33I mesure his success by how hard he is blasted by the controlled mediaFeb 17 20:16
gde33headlines like: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2559988/Russell-Brand-finally-meets-match-Comic-loses-cool-television-anchor-Jon-Snow-tears-confused-campaign-legalise-drugs.htmlFeb 17 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Russell Brand finally meets his match: Comic loses his cool as television anchor Jon Snow tears into his 'confused' campaign to legalise drugs | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gn658 ]Feb 17 20:16
gde33http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/15/russell-brand-v-jon-snow-interview-pair-clash-on-channel-4-over-drugs-4305646/Feb 17 20:16
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gde33they are even blasting channel 4 for putting him onFeb 17 20:17
gde33http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbiz/459883/Channel-4-blasted-for-letting-Russell-Brand-rant-about-drugsFeb 17 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.express.co.uk | Channel 4 blasted for letting Russell Brand rant about drugs | Showbiz | News | Daily Express [ http://ur1.ca/gn65e ]Feb 17 20:17
gde33and that becomes news in it selfFeb 17 20:18
gde33streisand effectFeb 17 20:18
gde33"Brand, a reformed drug addict, repeatedly interrupted the veteran presenter"Feb 17 20:19
gde33hahahaFeb 17 20:19
gde33sounds buthurtFeb 17 20:19
gde33the drug policy isn't so interesting in it selfFeb 17 20:19
gde33and they cant send the MI5 after him to intimidate him eitherFeb 17 20:20
gde33what they usually do when this happensFeb 17 20:20
DaemonFChttp://wane.com/news/national/snake-handling-ky-pastor-dies-from-snake-bite/Feb 17 20:22
DaemonFC"Did anyone else feel the world get lighter? We lost a moron! We lost a moron!" -Bill HicksFeb 17 20:22
gde33hahFeb 17 20:22
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Sosumihttp://www.gettyimages.pt/detail/fotografia-de-not%C3%ADcias/protester-takes-part-in-a-rise-up-for-the-fotografia-de-not%C3%ADcias/467619085?suri=1Feb 17 20:34
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DaemonFCI do love these new shoes.Feb 17 21:32
DaemonFCI had definitely worn my other ones out.Feb 17 21:32
DaemonFCI usually wear out the insoles before I wear out the rest of the shoe, so I just get some replacement insoles for like $10 at Walmart, and wear the shoes for another year or so.Feb 17 21:33
DaemonFCWalmart sells shoes, but they're not good shoes.Feb 17 21:33
DaemonFCYou can get a pair for $20, but they only last a month or two.Feb 17 21:33
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SosumistrangeFeb 17 22:02
SosumiI've had my shoes for 3 years nowFeb 17 22:02
SosumiI train with them at the gym and use them on regularly basisFeb 17 22:03
Sosumiand they're still okFeb 17 22:03
Sosumiwell, they have some holes here and there :)Feb 17 22:06
Sosumibut they're extremely comfortableFeb 17 22:07
Sosumiand I just don't want to carry another pair aroundFeb 17 22:07
MinceRi replace my shoes if they develop holesFeb 17 22:07
MinceRespecially the ones that are otherwise water resistant :>Feb 17 22:08
SosumihaFeb 17 22:08
SosumiI don't have that kind of problems hereFeb 17 22:08
Sosumiit surely rains, but its not coldFeb 17 22:08
Sosumior anythingFeb 17 22:08
MinceRwell, i've got to look out for that, since making proper road and sidewalk surfaces and properly draining rainwater is an unknown art in hungaryFeb 17 22:09
SosumilolFeb 17 22:09
MinceRthe rain pools on the footpaths, on the sidewalks on the roads, often in deep poolsFeb 17 22:09
MinceRoften the drains are the highest parts of the roadFeb 17 22:09
MinceReven when accidentally they manage to make the road surface slant towards the sides, there are no working drains thereFeb 17 22:10
MinceRthere are paved footpaths were the pavement curls up on the edges, forming little poolsFeb 17 22:10
Sosumisounds like someone failed at civil engineeringFeb 17 22:10
Sosumiwe do have some problemsFeb 17 22:11
Sosumibut nothing on that magnitudeFeb 17 22:11
Sosumiexcept for some isolated cases in some no man's place that I don't even knowFeb 17 22:11
Sosumiand I mean,Feb 17 22:12
MinceRi suspect the commies scared away or killed all the intellectualsFeb 17 22:12
SosumiI go walk every day through the historical parts lisbonFeb 17 22:12
MinceRso they were left with people who didn't have a clueFeb 17 22:12
MinceRand didn't careFeb 17 22:12
MinceRand it showsFeb 17 22:12
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Sosumiwhich is expect to find some clogged drain holeFeb 17 22:13
Sosumibut nopFeb 17 22:13
Sosumithe municipal works do a good job in keeping stuff workingFeb 17 22:13
Sosumicommies or not anymoreFeb 17 22:15
Sosumiwith the renewed russiaFeb 17 22:15
Sosumiand the now partition of world between the US and RussiaFeb 17 22:15
SosumiI think it is a good a time to start learning russianFeb 17 22:16
MinceRi was referring to the commies before 1990Feb 17 22:16
MinceRmost of whom are still aroundFeb 17 22:16
MinceRour two major parties are mostly commies from back thenFeb 17 22:17
SosumiwellFeb 17 22:17
MinceRour nazis are using the playbook of the most repressive commie regime hungary hadFeb 17 22:17
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MinceR(and there's so little difference i'm tempted to call them all 'communazis')Feb 17 22:18
Sosumiand our major political parties are formed by the same folks that participated in the estado novo dictatorshipFeb 17 22:18
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Sosumispecially the current ruling partyFeb 17 22:18
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SosumiPSDFeb 17 22:18
Sosumiof which dear leader, EU commission honcho and fascistoidFeb 17 22:19
SosumiJosé Manuel "cagão" BarrosoFeb 17 22:19
Sosumiis partFeb 17 22:19
SosumiI wanderFeb 17 22:23
Sosumiwhen does hungary join the euro?Feb 17 22:24
MinceRneverFeb 17 22:24
MinceRa better question is will hungary or the monetary union collapse firstFeb 17 22:24
Sosumiwhy not have them collapse at the same time?Feb 17 22:25
MinceRpossible but unlikelyFeb 17 22:26
Sosumithe monetary union can't collapseFeb 17 22:27
Sosumiit has already passed the point of no returnFeb 17 22:27
MinceRhow so?Feb 17 22:27
Sosumithey'll just keep prompting it up and that is itFeb 17 22:27
MinceRthey might not be able to do so foreverFeb 17 22:27
MinceRthey might not be willing to keep everyone insideFeb 17 22:27
DaemonFCShoveling out my driveway. I have to say that I could do without the nibshit across the street watching me like a buzzard.Feb 17 22:27
MinceRi could do without most of the humans infesting this planetFeb 17 22:28
Sosumiand what they are going to do?Feb 17 22:28
Sosumibomb them? like Merkel was saying to greeceFeb 17 22:28
Sosumithat she would "kick" greece out if Syriza had won the electionsFeb 17 22:29
DaemonFCMinceR: This town elects Republicans to the federal government.Feb 17 22:29
DaemonFCThis town is probably 60%+ retirees on Social Security pensions.Feb 17 22:29
DaemonFCThe Republicans they elect say that Social Security is unconstitutional and should be shut down.Feb 17 22:30
DaemonFCIf you were on Social Security and the Republican said it should be shut down, would you vote for the Republican?Feb 17 22:30
DaemonFCI will never understand that.Feb 17 22:30
MinceRSosumi: for example, germany and/or france could withdraw from it if they think it will destroy themFeb 17 22:30
DaemonFCMinceR: Thank goodness that the Senate seats are statewide elections.Feb 17 22:31
DaemonFCMy vote matters at least a small amount for the Senate races.Feb 17 22:31
Sosumibut in turn, it is france and germany that are destroying the EUFeb 17 22:31
Sosumigermany with its austerity demagogyFeb 17 22:31
DaemonFCThe Republicans drew my House district in such a way that only a Republican can win.Feb 17 22:31
Sosumiand france with its psychotrips of warFeb 17 22:31
MinceRSosumi: will it matter?Feb 17 22:31
DaemonFCSo, my vote is meaningless for that.Feb 17 22:32
Sosumiif your goal is economical and scientifically progressFeb 17 22:32
Sosumias well in having a strong block capable of maintaining a power balance in between the US and RussiaFeb 17 22:32
Sosumiit doesFeb 17 22:33
Sosuminut that is not what is happeningFeb 17 22:33
MinceRif your goal is economic and scientific progress, why elect EPP member parties to lead countries and the EU at all?Feb 17 22:34
Sosumiinstead, what you kind of have is compliant ruleFeb 17 22:34
MinceRit doesn't make any senseFeb 17 22:34
Sosumito anglo-american interestsFeb 17 22:34
MinceRi don't think these people want progressFeb 17 22:34
MinceRespecially hungariansFeb 17 22:34
MinceRhungarians seem to want to die a long and painful deathFeb 17 22:34
DaemonFCBrandon SellersFeb 17 22:34
DaemonFCMike, if being gay is a choice, when, and why did you choose to be straight? I borrowed this question, but it begs to be answered.Feb 17 22:34
DaemonFCI also commented...Feb 17 22:34
Sosumispecially of vulture capitalists and hedgefund hyenas typesFeb 17 22:34
DaemonFCI said: Feb 17 22:35
DaemonFC Well, it's easy. I just woke up one day and decided that I wanted Christian Fundamentalists and other ****ing ****s from the double digit IQ population to hate and oppress me. I said "Gee, that sounds like a great idea!". Then that's when I chose to be gay. It was just so obvious. /sarcasmFeb 17 22:35
MinceRpoland managed to outlaw abortionFeb 17 22:35
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MinceRthey've managed to be even more backwards and fundie than the USAFeb 17 22:35
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abortion_Laws.svgFeb 17 22:35
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MinceRthe human species is seriously illFeb 17 22:36
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Sosumiwhat we need is some to give a "reison d'etre" to the pplFeb 17 22:37
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MinceRdoes self-destruction in the name of "God" qualify? :>Feb 17 22:37
Sosumisomething bigFeb 17 22:37
Sosumilike space colonizationFeb 17 22:37
MinceRthey don't care about space anymoreFeb 17 22:37
Sosumibig advancementsFeb 17 22:37
MinceRthe cold war kept the space race alive, now it's deadFeb 17 22:38
MinceRwhich is a good thingFeb 17 22:38
MinceRat least the infection won't spreadFeb 17 22:38
Sosumithat is the problemFeb 17 22:38
Sosumisociety at moment is on some kind of limboFeb 17 22:38
Sosumi"neither alive nor dead"Feb 17 22:39
Sosumibut waiting for deadFeb 17 22:39
Sosumi*"but awaiting for death to come"Feb 17 22:39
Sosumiand in the meantime they just pleasure themselves in mindless activitiesFeb 17 22:39
SosumiI remember Carl Sagan and othersFeb 17 22:40
Sosumisaying always mentioning "if we don't blow ourselves up" etc etcFeb 17 22:40
Sosumibut what if people in general lose the will to live?Feb 17 22:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Great News for Start of the Week: The H isFeb 17 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Great News for Start of the Week: The H is Back! | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Weekend in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Upcoming Features of GNOME 3.12Feb 17 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Upcoming Features of GNOME 3.12 | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Improvements to Bodhi's Chromebook SupportFeb 17 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improvements to Bodhi's Chromebook Support | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:41
Sosumiwell, I'm tiredFeb 17 22:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Site Update (Updated)  http://t.co/Fc4d7JaGQ4Feb 17 22:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Site Update (Updated) | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:42
Sosumiand tomorrows another will certainly be another intriguing dayFeb 17 22:42
Sosumign :)Feb 17 22:42
Sosumimeh, I can't even write properly anymore :PFeb 17 22:42
MinceRif only they were merely waiting for deathFeb 17 22:43
MinceRinstead they're ruining everything people have ever builtFeb 17 22:43
MinceRgnFeb 17 23:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BeagleBone Black: The Sub-$50 ARM Linux BoardFeb 17 23:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BeagleBone Black: The Sub-$50 ARM Linux Board | Tux MachinesFeb 17 23:39
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 18 00:18
DaemonFCThe voters in DC should replace the mayor and strike any key when ready. Feb 18 00:18
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icecrawlerjono - when is your band gonna do 24 bit 5.1 flac instead of that lame mp3 shit mother fucker?Feb 18 01:23
icecrawleror can ubuntu not handle that?Feb 18 01:23
icecrawlerI know band camp on OSX does it no probFeb 18 01:23
jonoicecrawler, which band?Feb 18 01:23
icecrawleryour bandFeb 18 01:23
icecrawler Severed FifthFeb 18 01:25
icecrawleryou should have 5.1 24-bit flac, 16-bit flac, 16-bit alac, 16-bit opus and 192k oggFeb 18 01:25
icecrawlerfor freeFeb 18 01:26
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icecrawleror just the lossless onesFeb 18 01:26
icecrawlerdamn mirc keeps harassing me about being 55 days into my 30 day trialFeb 18 01:27
icecrawleri thought free software was open source and shitFeb 18 01:27
*icecrawler slaps jono around a bit with a large troutFeb 18 01:28
*icecrawler slaps prurigro around a bit with a large troutFeb 18 01:28
*icecrawler slaps tessier around a bit with a large troutFeb 18 01:28
icecrawlerlolFeb 18 01:28
icecrawleri wonder if the slap patent is up yet, dont see it in xchat yetFeb 18 01:29
jonoicecrawler, I will get FLAC up when I get a chanceFeb 18 01:30
icecrawleryou said that 2 years agoFeb 18 01:31
icecrawleryou lost the original didn't youFeb 18 01:31
icecrawlerall you have is the mp3Feb 18 01:31
icecrawlerand you make the cds from itFeb 18 01:31
icecrawler(shudders)Feb 18 01:32
jonoicecrawler, dude, chillFeb 18 01:32
icecrawlerLOLFeb 18 01:32
icecrawlerim just asking cause I owe DrPizza $200Feb 18 01:32
icecrawlerthere was a bet based on the time of the flacFeb 18 01:33
icecrawlermsb_ I think I owe you $150Feb 18 01:34
icecrawlerI can't remember if you actually threw down real moneyFeb 18 01:34
msb_icecrawler: Actually it was $250, but 150 is enough.Feb 18 01:35
icecrawlerthe CIA pays well?Feb 18 01:36
msb_I'm not really in the CIA, I just tell people that so they won't welsh on their bets.Feb 18 01:36
icecrawleroh ok, so DrPizza was right about you and mkultraFeb 18 01:37
msb_But I did write the software that controls the drones...Feb 18 01:37
icecrawleryou call your slaves drones?Feb 18 01:37
icecrawlercreepyFeb 18 01:38
msb_Here's me.  Look at the great new colored boxes!  With margins!  http://cosmicpenguin.comFeb 18 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 18 01:38
msb_Who is Dr Pizza?  I used to know, but I've forgotten.Feb 18 01:39
icecrawlerHe's in here, I was chatting with him the other dayFeb 18 01:39
icecrawlerSaid you were this crazy old conspiracy theoristFeb 18 01:39
icecrawlerFelt guilt from your CIA days as the killer of JFK and that you had experience to know 9/11 was done by the same agency.Feb 18 01:40
msb_Not crazy, 68, and they're facts, not theories.Feb 18 01:40
icecrawlerBeing able to use a sniper rifle on JFK doesn't really mean you know anything about the holograms used during 9/11Feb 18 01:41
icecrawlerNo plane debris = no planeFeb 18 01:41
icecrawlerDrPizza said you had some frozen thermite theoryFeb 18 01:42
msb_Check out this video -- one of the best I've ever seen.  Edward Bernays, CFR, etc, etc.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ERfxWouXsFeb 18 01:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Rule from the Shadows - The Psychology of Power - Part 1 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn7vh ]Feb 18 01:43
icecrawlerthe idea that if you make thermite out of dry ice its the opposite of hot - and freezes the supportFeb 18 01:43
icecrawlercausing a hologram to be able to destroy the supportFeb 18 01:43
msb_That's utter nonsense.Feb 18 01:44
icecrawlermy opinion: I don't think it was this frozen thermite, or planes or "terrorists"Feb 18 01:44
msb_The towers were destroyed by implanted explosives.  Thermite was used below ground,Feb 18 01:44
icecrawlerI think they had hologram planes MASKING alien craftFeb 18 01:44
icecrawlerthats why the NSA took everyones video footageFeb 18 01:45
icecrawlerto get the UFO's outFeb 18 01:45
msb_There are some 40 videos of the second plane hitting.  The govt did not seize them.Feb 18 01:46
icecrawlerthey were editedFeb 18 01:46
icecrawlerthe people had their memories erasedFeb 18 01:46
msb_There's no reason to think so.  Some have artefacts caused by the compression algorithm(s).Feb 18 01:47
icecrawlerhologramsFeb 18 01:47
msb_No point arguing with an anonymous person.Feb 18 01:48
icecrawlersame thing in Iraq, holograms of weapons of mass destructionFeb 18 01:48
icecrawlerthen Bush and the UK invaded and no weaponsFeb 18 01:48
icecrawlerhow do you explain that oneFeb 18 01:49
icecrawlerAliens are trying to make Bush look badFeb 18 01:49
icecrawlerso we elect anti-war leadersFeb 18 01:49
icecrawlerim not anonymousFeb 18 01:49
msb_What's your name?Feb 18 01:50
icecrawlerI'm Dan Forbes and I'm from UofTFeb 18 01:50
msb_Mark S Bilk, mark@cosmicpenguin.comFeb 18 01:50
msb_Toronto?Feb 18 01:51
icecrawleryeah mother fuckerFeb 18 01:51
icecrawlerGTAFeb 18 01:51
msb_?Feb 18 01:51
icecrawleri dont use E-mail, the feds monitor itFeb 18 01:51
icecrawleras well as a few of the alien factionsFeb 18 01:51
msb_I don't care.  I'd put everything I know on my website if I had the time.Feb 18 01:52
msb_What is GTA?Feb 18 01:53
jonoicecrawler, I will do it when I get a chance, but tbh, it is pretty low on my priority listFeb 18 01:53
jonoI have a million and one other things to doFeb 18 01:53
msb_I'm in the phone book if you want to call.Feb 18 01:53
icecrawleryou know all that is monitored by the government msb_?Feb 18 01:54
msb_I figure, but I have nothing to hide.Feb 18 01:54
msb_I get all my info from the Web anyhow, so it's already up there.Feb 18 01:54
msb_Go Toronto Animals?Feb 18 01:55
jonogotta runFeb 18 01:55
jonolatersFeb 18 01:55
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msb_see yaFeb 18 01:55
icecrawlermsb_ Greater Toronto Area mother fucker, word upFeb 18 01:55
msb_icecrawler: Are you angry at me for some reason?Feb 18 01:56
icecrawlerhttp://youtu.be/vXCXXLNaYjoFeb 18 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Grey Aliens Sinister Plans for Mankind - YouTubeFeb 18 01:56
icecrawlermsb_ noFeb 18 01:56
icecrawlerthats just how I roll hommieFeb 18 01:56
icecrawlercheck out that youtube link brotherFeb 18 01:56
icecrawlerimo the grays did 9/11, not humansFeb 18 01:57
icecrawlertheres a few times where I went to bed early and dont remember doing it and i woke up tiredFeb 18 01:58
icecrawlerabductions probablyFeb 18 01:59
icecrawler12 hours of sleep, how could I be tiredFeb 18 01:59
icecrawleryou know msb_?Feb 18 01:59
msb_Well, the question of who or what is at the top of Earth's control pyramid is very important.  I wish I knew.Feb 18 01:59
icecrawleraliens tell the CIA, NSA, US, UN, and all that shit what to doFeb 18 02:00
msb_Could be aliens.Feb 18 02:00
icecrawlerfreemasons and illuminati before gov't tooFeb 18 02:00
icecrawleraliensFeb 18 02:00
icecrawlergrays and reptiliansFeb 18 02:00
icecrawlerGrays had Hitler kill the jews because some of them had a natural immunity to AIDSFeb 18 02:01
msb_This guy Simon Parkes is good.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4Feb 18 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | SIMON PARKES : The Project Avalon Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/glm9u ]Feb 18 02:01
msb_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igs5LahKkIQFeb 18 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Alien Agenda - What THEY don't want you to know...[Simon Parkes New Horizons 2014] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn7xa ]Feb 18 02:01
icecrawlerXFaCE told me that there were alien robotsFeb 18 02:02
icecrawlerdo yo know anything about them?Feb 18 02:02
icecrawleri've never even heard of alien robotsFeb 18 02:02
msb_Some people say that they grays are biological robots.Feb 18 02:02
icecrawleroh yeah not mechanical robotsFeb 18 02:03
icecrawlerhe might have meant the same thingFeb 18 02:03
msb_Parkes thinks the Reptilians are mostly controlling Earth, but others have a say in it too.Feb 18 02:03
msb_I found those two Parkes videos very worthwhile, and they are quite recent.Feb 18 02:04
icecrawlerinterestingFeb 18 02:04
icecrawlerI'll watch the 2014 one right nowFeb 18 02:04
icecrawlerI think Bush and Harper are reptiliansFeb 18 02:04
icecrawleryou can see it in their eyesFeb 18 02:04
msb_And don't miss that Rule from the Shadows video.  It's the best I've seen on mind control, sheeple, etc.Feb 18 02:04
icecrawlerRob Ford is like that coked out Alien in First wave that the aliens killFeb 18 02:05
icecrawlerthe one addicted to saltFeb 18 02:05
msb_Supposedly there are various human-alien hybrids.Feb 18 02:05
icecrawlerRob Ford is a mistake lolFeb 18 02:05
DaemonFCA 16 ounce glass of prune juice followed by a fiber one bar.Feb 18 02:07
*DaemonFC never had to do this before.Feb 18 02:07
DaemonFCGetting older sucks.Feb 18 02:07
msb_Who is Rob Ford?Feb 18 02:07
icecrawlerDaemonFC, you've probably been probedFeb 18 02:07
msb_DaemonFC: Hi!Feb 18 02:08
DaemonFCThe mayor of Toronto.Feb 18 02:08
msb_Are you eating enough veggies?Feb 18 02:08
DaemonFCThe crazy one that smokes crack.Feb 18 02:08
DaemonFCThe Marion Barry of Canada.Feb 18 02:08
icecrawlerhttp://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/11/05/rob_ford_yes_i_have_smoked_crack_cocaine.htmlFeb 18 02:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestar.com | Rob Ford : 'Yes, I have smoked crack cocaine.' | Toronto Star [ http://ur1.ca/gn7y1 ]Feb 18 02:08
icecrawlerxface and prurigro love the guy thoughFeb 18 02:08
DaemonFCA 16 ounce glass of prune juice, a fiber one bar, and a colace capsule seems to do the trick.Feb 18 02:09
msb_Who is the guy in First Wave with the long curly black hair?  Slightly crazy, but very smart.Feb 18 02:09
icecrawlerCrazy EddieFeb 18 02:09
msb_Yes!Feb 18 02:09
DaemonFCI guess I'm lucky that I like prune juice anyway.Feb 18 02:10
icecrawlerDaemonFC You could just eat a box of quacker chewy granola barsFeb 18 02:10
msb_DaemonFC: Is colace a suppository?Feb 18 02:10
msb_Working from the rear end is much quicker.Feb 18 02:10
DaemonFCIt's a stool softener.Feb 18 02:10
msb_Oral laxatives can kick in a day later, uncontrollably.Feb 18 02:11
DaemonFCicecrawler: If you eat more than one fiber one bar, you're going to be in trouble. Feb 18 02:11
DaemonFCYou'll start farting like you've never farted before.Feb 18 02:11
msb_You can also stick your finger up your ass if the nail is short and the blockage is just inside.Feb 18 02:12
DaemonFCewwwFeb 18 02:12
msb_Or if you're an engineer you can work it out with a sliderule.Feb 18 02:12
DaemonFCI think I'd rather just drink the prune juice.Feb 18 02:12
DaemonFCI don't know why people say it's disgusting.Feb 18 02:12
icecrawlerDaemonFC had too busy of a nightFeb 18 02:12
XFaCEDaemonFC: gee worfFeb 18 02:12
DaemonFCTastes like raisins.Feb 18 02:12
msb_Sure, if you want to stay at home for a couple of days so you can run to the toilet.Feb 18 02:13
msb_I like the taste too.Feb 18 02:13
msb_When you wash your hand, the shit is gone.Feb 18 02:14
msb_You have pounds of it inside you anyhow.Feb 18 02:14
msb_Just consider it as fertilizer.Feb 18 02:14
msb_It's the Cycle of Life.Feb 18 02:14
msb_Anyhow, a glycerin or other suppository isn't messy and works in an hour or less.Feb 18 02:15
DaemonFCIt's disgusting and proof against intelligent design.Feb 18 02:16
msb_It's proof you're not eating enough fiber.Feb 18 02:16
DaemonFCAn intelligent designer could have come up with something better than eating and then taking a shit, then losing consciousness for 8 hours a day.Feb 18 02:16
msb_He loves us in his own way.Feb 18 02:17
msb_-- What's Up Tiger LilyFeb 18 02:17
msb_Having a mouth and an ass is much better than only having a mouth.Feb 18 02:18
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwNDMFeb 18 04:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] No License Needed For Kubuntu Derivatives [ http://ur1.ca/gn8mq ]Feb 18 04:52
DaemonFCCanonical claims you need to pay them for a license to use their packages for another distribution.Feb 18 04:52
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msb_Wow!  Another reason to stay away from Ubuntu completely.Feb 18 04:56
msb_In addition to a GUI designed for a doorstop -er- tablet, and general sloppy engineering.Feb 18 04:57
msb_Canonical just does not have the Linux Spirit, which is SHARE EVERYTHING.Feb 18 05:00
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwNDEFeb 18 05:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ubuntu To Abandon Upstart, Switch To Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/gmqn8 ]Feb 18 05:09
DaemonFCIt's better that upstart is dead.Feb 18 05:09
DaemonFCsystemd doesn't have a Contributor License Agreement.Feb 18 05:09
icecrawlercanonical is probably working with the grays, they have stuff like keylogging built in and on by defaultFeb 18 05:10
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TweetTuxMachines@Spock444        BeagleBone Black: The Sub-$50 ARM Linux Board |Feb 18 05:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scoop.it | BeagleBone Black: The Sub-$50 ARM Linux Board |...Feb 18 05:42
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MinceR022733 < icecrawler> damn mirc keeps harassing me about being 55 days into my 30 day trialFeb 18 06:53
MinceR022741 < icecrawler> i thought free software was open source and shitFeb 18 06:53
MinceRmirc isn't free software, never wasFeb 18 06:53
DaemonFChttp://www.upworthy.com/that-iphone-in-your-pocket-youd-be-surprised-where-the-money-goes-when-you-buy-it?c=cd1Feb 18 06:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.upworthy.com | That iPhone In Your Pocket? You’d Be Surprised Where The Money Goes When You Buy It. [ http://ur1.ca/gn92s ]Feb 18 06:56
DaemonFCicecrawler: I believe that HexChat works on Windows.Feb 18 07:00
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MinceRso does kvircFeb 18 07:08
MinceRand i've read about windows versions of irssiFeb 18 07:08
MinceRthen again, getting rid of windows is even better :>Feb 18 07:08
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iophkhttp://www.ibtimes.co.uk/edward-snowdens-lawyer-claims-harassment-heathrow-airport-border-police-1436781Feb 18 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Edward Snowden's Lawyer Claims Harassment from Heathrow Airport Border Police [ http://ur1.ca/gn9d7 ]Feb 18 07:43
roy_gde33: pretty muchFeb 18 07:47
roy_but then it's low encrypt to begin withFeb 18 07:47
roy_re [08:57] <gde33> best encryption is if there is nothing in the messageFeb 18 07:47
roy_Took me 4 hours last night investigating why twitter no longer syndicated, leading to the most annoying issue to debug, trailing space in some unnmamed php source fileFeb 18 07:48
roy_Found in the least expected placeFeb 18 07:48
roy_[01:55] <DaemonFC> While horrible, 22 people isn't a huge body count for an Abrahamic religion. The teen would have to murder 22 people, per day, for several thousand years, to catch up to the current body count of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. The so-called "religions of peace". And that doesn't count keeping up with the increasing body count of the Big Three over that time period. 22 per day would actually leave Satanism falling behind Feb 18 07:49
roy_the others. Someone Feb 18 07:49
roy_Shock value=10Feb 18 07:49
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MinceR:>Feb 18 07:53
roy_0Feb 18 08:18
roy_[01:41] <icecrawler> Being able to use a sniper rifle on JFK doesn't really mean you know anything about the holograms used during 9/11Feb 18 08:18
roy_Oh, I see we had a troll here last nightFeb 18 08:19
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3655806Feb 18 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 18 08:29
roy_Well done. I wonder where this was shot?"77"Feb 18 08:29
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Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/security/2014/02/dear-asus-router-user-youve-been-pwned-thanks-to-easily-exploited-flaw/Feb 18 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Dear Asus router user: You’ve been pwned, thanks to easily exploited flaw | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gnatq ]Feb 18 11:24
Sosumiand now asus routersFeb 18 11:24
SosumiI actually wander how airport and time capsule routers are doingFeb 18 11:25
Sosumigiven apple's total disdain for actual securityFeb 18 11:26
Sosumiand uber slowness in getting things fixedFeb 18 11:26
SosumiDrPizza, just being there stalking is kind of lameFeb 18 11:32
Sosumiat least say a joke from time to timeFeb 18 11:32
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gde33roy_: maybe previously shared garbage could be used if a real connection is established later?Feb 18 11:48
icecrawlerDrPizza doesn't talk here because everything is monitored by the GCHQFeb 18 12:46
msb_Who is DrPizza?  I have a vague recollection that he's some bad guy from COLA.Feb 18 12:48
icecrawlerHe does the conspiracy theory section on Ars TechnicaFeb 18 12:49
icecrawlerhes a libertarian conspiracy theorist though, right wing free market guyFeb 18 12:49
icecrawlerkind of like Alex JonesFeb 18 12:50
msb_He wouldn't be an anti-Linux guy on comp.os.linux.advocacy then.  None of them are very bright.Feb 18 12:50
icecrawlerhe is anti linuxFeb 18 12:50
icecrawlerhe thinks his powermac g4 is too old to be spied onFeb 18 12:50
icecrawlerthats what he usesFeb 18 12:50
icecrawler"if I can't even find the latest firefox for OSX 10.4.8 what chances are the government is spying on me" -DrPizzaFeb 18 12:51
gde33sounds like a typical tech blogger lolFeb 18 12:52
msb_Funny!Feb 18 12:52
MinceRconsidering that he props up msft and mpeg la, he can't be much of a "libertarian" :>Feb 18 12:52
msb_gde33: I'd think most are smarter than that.Feb 18 12:52
gde33MinceR: people dont really remember what all the big words meanFeb 18 12:53
MinceR:>Feb 18 12:53
msb_"Libertarians" who think that corporations are people will come to some very bad conclusions.Feb 18 12:54
icecrawlerwell he was trying to convince me the other day UEFI secure boot could help you from a government evil maid attackFeb 18 12:54
gde33msb_: journalism is all about attention, not about being right, it helpts being wrong actually. :PFeb 18 12:54
gde33I will never forget this article "The linuxification of windows has begun"Feb 18 12:54
MinceRicecrawler: it couldn't, thoughFeb 18 12:55
icecrawlerMinceR: his arguement was that if you used your own key for secure boot you could lock out unauthorized dvd and usb boot disksFeb 18 12:55
icecrawlerlike hirens boot cdFeb 18 12:55
MinceRand then they could replace your keyFeb 18 12:55
icecrawlerwhich takes passwords off your machineFeb 18 12:55
MinceRor they could break into your osFeb 18 12:55
icecrawlerreplace your key and your OS wouldnt bootFeb 18 12:56
icecrawlerthe OS looks for itFeb 18 12:56
MinceRthe os they'll put in will, thoughFeb 18 12:56
MinceRor hypervisorFeb 18 12:56
MinceRand then boots your os, or just looks like it didFeb 18 12:56
msb_So a "maid attack" is your house-maid putting a disk in your computer?Feb 18 12:56
icecrawleryes msb_Feb 18 12:56
MinceRand of course if all else fails, they could replace your computer with an identical looking copy, up to the point where it asks for your disk encryption passwordFeb 18 12:56
gde33lolFeb 18 12:56
icecrawlermincer thinks a maid knows how to install vmwareFeb 18 12:56
icecrawlershes a woman, she can barely figure out that USB isn't UBSFeb 18 12:57
MinceRafaik "evil maid attacks" aren't thought of as untrained maids trying to exploit your systemFeb 18 12:57
MinceRphysical access is the pointFeb 18 12:57
icecrawleractually they areFeb 18 12:57
icecrawlerthey have sex with you, and when you flush the condom down the toilet they are putting usb disks in your computerFeb 18 12:58
MinceRthat's it?Feb 18 12:58
icecrawlerand pressing buttonsFeb 18 12:58
gde33hahaFeb 18 12:58
MinceRin that case, any computer with no usb ports would be omfg-secureFeb 18 12:58
icecrawlerthey only have like 30 secondsFeb 18 12:58
MinceRi happen to have such omfg-secure computers in the cupboard and in the basementFeb 18 12:58
gde33MinceR: a fake usb port to detect maid attacksFeb 18 12:59
icecrawlerjust replacing the key would take like 10 minutesFeb 18 12:59
msb_Rosa Klebb in "From Russia with Love".Feb 18 12:59
MinceRreplacing the computer could happen more quickly :>Feb 18 12:59
icecrawlerbut this was DrPizza's arguementFeb 18 12:59
icecrawlerin the endFeb 18 12:59
icecrawlerI was just like "well how does it stand up to a wrench exploit?"Feb 18 12:59
MinceR:>Feb 18 12:59
icecrawler"Wrench Exploit?" says DrPizzaFeb 18 13:00
icecrawlerWhere you beat their passwords out of them with a wrenchFeb 18 13:00
MinceRnah, that's Rubber-Hose CryptanalysisFeb 18 13:00
SosumilolFeb 18 13:00
MinceRi thought the wrench was applied to the computerFeb 18 13:00
icecrawlerwrench > rubber hoseFeb 18 13:01
gde33so the system needs hooking into the nervous systemFeb 18 13:01
icecrawlernot talking chinese wrenchFeb 18 13:01
gde33then it can lock it self in maid sex modeFeb 18 13:01
icecrawlermurican, so its metalFeb 18 13:01
MinceR:DFeb 18 13:01
MinceRi suspect you can cause more pain with the same amount of damage with a rubber hoseFeb 18 13:01
msb_Ick!  That Satanism is contagious.Feb 18 13:02
gde33we should set up a course to train security experts pain treasholdFeb 18 13:02
gde33imagine the lulzFeb 18 13:02
gde33water boarding 101Feb 18 13:02
msb_forced Windows usageFeb 18 13:03
msb_DRM everywhereFeb 18 13:03
MinceRthey're doing that alreadyFeb 18 13:03
msb_yupFeb 18 13:03
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msb_A couple years ago a DVD wouldn't play on my computer (turned out to be a bad drive), and when I took it to a friend's Windows machine, it wouldn't play it until I swore to it that I'd bought it legally.Feb 18 13:05
gde33so we really need to go to space for data securityFeb 18 13:05
msb_For life security, in case they blow up the Earth.Feb 18 13:06
gde33I think you are overreacting :PFeb 18 13:08
msb_gde33: Regarding being wrong to increase the audience in journalism:  We live in a world where most people are deluded about what's actually going on.  So one can appeal to them by repeating the lies they believe.  But the job of a real journalist is to wake people up to the truth.Feb 18 13:09
MinceRreal journalists are very rareFeb 18 13:09
msb_We can all strive to be one.Feb 18 13:09
gde33you mean join the terrorists?Feb 18 13:10
MinceRgde33: we already are the turrists, didn't you notice? :>Feb 18 13:10
icecrawleryou can learn to waterboard on the piratebayFeb 18 13:10
msb_Some government agencies have declared 9-11 researchers and upholders of the Constitution to be "terrorists".Feb 18 13:11
MinceRand people who pay in cashFeb 18 13:12
MinceRand people who protect their privacy onlineFeb 18 13:12
msb_But we now know that the US govt is supporting the "Al-qaeda" terrorists attacking Syria.Feb 18 13:12
gde33the truth was that his wife killed JFKFeb 18 13:13
msb_That makes Obama the Chief Terrorist.Feb 18 13:13
gde33from point blank range, by putting a gun to his headFeb 18 13:14
msb_Not in the Zapruder film.Feb 18 13:14
gde33what I mean, I dont think one would get a lot of readers with the turthFeb 18 13:14
gde33msb_: sure, just lookFeb 18 13:15
gde33she even picks up the shellFeb 18 13:15
msb_She tries to pick up pieces of brain or bone.Feb 18 13:15
gde33first they give him a sandwich with poison, to make her job easierFeb 18 13:15
gde33msb_: would you?Feb 18 13:16
msb_gde33: The JFK killing has been thoroughly researched.Feb 18 13:16
msb_Would I what?Feb 18 13:16
gde33pick up the brainFeb 18 13:16
gde33does it make any sense at all to do that?Feb 18 13:16
msb_Wouldn't do much good.Feb 18 13:16
msb_He was knocked down before she reacted.Feb 18 13:17
msb_And one may not think clearly in the few seconds after one's husband/President is shot in the head.Feb 18 13:18
msb_There's no point in being a journalist unless you tell the truth.Feb 18 13:19
msb_BTW, check out the new colored areas on my homepage:  http://cosmicpenguin.comFeb 18 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 18 13:20
msb_Note the fine margins.  Took some work.  Feb 18 13:20
msb_Only tag I could find that does background colors is <td>.Feb 18 13:21
gde33but it is to obvious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCNe3t1U8Es#t=45sFeb 18 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | JFK was murdered by his wife - Jacqueline The Jesuit Assassin - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gnbol ]Feb 18 13:23
gde33msb_: I think a bit to much white spaceFeb 18 13:24
iophkhttp://www.datamation.com/applications/life-without-a-windows-desktop-1.htmlFeb 18 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Life without a Windows Desktop - Datamation [ http://ur1.ca/gnbot ]Feb 18 13:25
msb_gde33: I'll be moving a lot more stuff from the white area to the colored ones.  I've just started.Feb 18 13:25
gde33I mean on the right of the pageFeb 18 13:27
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gde33msb_: but good readability with the bg colorsFeb 18 13:28
msb_gde33: I've kept it below 800 pix wide so it fits small screens without horizontal scrolling.Feb 18 13:29
gde33gave me an intersting idea to float content boxes to the leftFeb 18 13:30
msb_Thanks!  I made the bg colors pale so the text can be read easily.Feb 18 13:30
gde33try making the Result area bigger http://jsfiddle.net/gaby_de_wilde/fN9KC/Feb 18 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jsfiddle.net | Edit fiddle - JSFiddleFeb 18 13:33
msb_gde33: Nice!  I guess I should at least have a vertical TOC on one side or the other.  Is there a tag for making things float or do you have to use PHP?Feb 18 13:37
gde33sure, you just float it with cssFeb 18 13:38
msb_Thanks!Feb 18 13:38
gde33https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/floatFeb 18 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | float - CSS | MDN [ http://ur1.ca/gnbsq ]Feb 18 13:39
gde33the channels #css #html5 ##javascript are pretty useful if you are not in a hurryFeb 18 13:41
msb_gde33: Will that move the floated blocks vertically to keep them in view when I scroll way down the page?Feb 18 13:44
gde33fixed positioning is something different Feb 18 13:44
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msb_gde33: I want the TOC to stay in view as I scroll down a tall page.  Is there a way to do that without PHP?Feb 18 13:46
gde33php only makes html pages, it isn't involved in stylingFeb 18 13:46
gde33https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/positionFeb 18 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | position - CSS | MDN [ http://ur1.ca/gnbw8 ]Feb 18 13:47
msb_Ruby on Rails?  Hypnosis?Feb 18 13:47
gde33sorry?Feb 18 13:47
icecrawlerruby on rails sounds like coding on cokeFeb 18 13:48
MinceR"hypnosis", the new web framework? :>Feb 18 13:48
gde33msb_: the server side language only makes the html pages, the styling is in the css, layout is in the htmlFeb 18 13:48
msb_This looks good, under "fixed" -- "position it at a specified position relative to the screen's viewport"Feb 18 13:49
gde33yes, that is what you want :)Feb 18 13:50
msb_Yes, the illo under "Fixed positioning" shows it.  Many thanks gde33!Feb 18 13:52
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gde33dont make it to long, people wont be able to get to the bottom end if their screen is to smallFeb 18 13:53
msb_Oooh this is gonna be so hot!Feb 18 13:53
gde33hahaFeb 18 13:54
Sosumiwhat? didn't the william greer murder jfk?Feb 18 13:54
Sosumithat is what can be deduced from the zepruder filmFeb 18 13:54
msb_The TOC will only have 6 or so entries -- color coded and linked to the big color boxes.Feb 18 13:55
gde33niceFeb 18 13:55
icecrawlermsb_ jews shot jfk?Feb 18 13:55
icecrawlerJFK was murdered by his wife - Jacqueline The Jesuit Assassin - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/gnbol ]Feb 18 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | JFK was murdered by his wife - Jacqueline The Jesuit Assassin - YouTubeFeb 18 13:56
SosumilolFeb 18 13:56
msb_icecrawler: No, but they are hiding under your bed and are gonna GETCHA!Feb 18 13:56
iophkhttp://news.sciencemag.org/europe/2014/02/royal-society-joins-open-access-bandwagonFeb 18 13:57
iophkhttp://news.sciencemag.org/people-events/2014/02/aaas-launches-open-access-journalFeb 18 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sciencemag.org | Royal Society Joins Open-Access Bandwagon | Science/AAAS | News [ http://ur1.ca/gnbyq ]Feb 18 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sciencemag.org | AAAS Launches Open-Access Journal | Science/AAAS | News [ http://ur1.ca/gnbys ]Feb 18 13:57
msb_Jews are the only ones who have direct contact with the genocidal dominator god Jehovah.Feb 18 13:57
msb_The evil demiurge.Feb 18 13:58
msb_Probably just some Reptilian with a good stage act.Feb 18 13:58
msb_evil and convincing, not goodFeb 18 14:00
MinceRprobably just a figment of someone's imaginationFeb 18 14:00
icecrawlermsb_ could be mantids tooFeb 18 14:01
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/leaseweb-sued-for-hosting-megaupload-140217/Feb 18 14:02
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/nsa-authorized-monitoring-of-pirate-bay-and-proxy-users-140218/Feb 18 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | LeaseWeb Sued For Hosting Megaupload and Other "Pirate" Websites | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gnc10 ]Feb 18 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | NSA Authorized Monitoring of Pirate Bay and Proxy Users | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gnc11 ]Feb 18 14:02
msb_According to Simon Parkes, the mantids are cool and intellectual.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igs5LahKkIQFeb 18 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | SIMON PARKES : The Project Avalon Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/glm9u ]Feb 18 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Alien Agenda - What THEY don't want you to know...[Simon Parkes New Horizons 2014] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn7xa ]Feb 18 14:03
gde33the open access journals are good news :)Feb 18 14:05
msb_Parkes is very convincing.  Those two videos are great.Feb 18 14:05
msb_gde33:  open access journals?Feb 18 14:05
msb_(BTW, I was just kidding about Jews.)Feb 18 14:06
gde33what iophk saidFeb 18 14:06
icecrawlerSteve Greer is awesome tooFeb 18 14:06
msb_gde33: The torrentfreak links?Feb 18 14:07
icecrawlermsb_ I think the guy with the cowboy hat in project avalon is an alienFeb 18 14:08
gde33no the 2 before thatFeb 18 14:08
MinceRillegal alien?Feb 18 14:09
MinceRdey took our jerbs!Feb 18 14:09
msb_gde33: Oh, right!  Open access journals -- Richard Stallman strikes again!  (indirectly)Feb 18 14:11
msb_MinceR: They took our jobs, but brought us some herbs!Feb 18 14:12
MinceR:>Feb 18 14:12
msb_What's the name of that other interview project, like Avalon?  I get the two confused.Feb 18 14:13
gde33camelotFeb 18 14:13
MinceRon second thought, let's not go to camelot. 'tis a silly place.Feb 18 14:14
msb_Yup, Camelot.  Thanks!Feb 18 14:14
gde33MinceR: if your bs filter doesn't work I would stay away from it. Otherwise it is facinating stuff.Feb 18 14:17
gde33if only to see what people can be made to believe happenedFeb 18 14:18
MinceRgde33: have you seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail? :>Feb 18 14:18
gde33sureFeb 18 14:18
gde33debriefing with brainwashing is both easy and effective, victims are less funny than people think, arguably brainwashed to laugh at that?Feb 18 14:19
gde33hard not to laugh sometimesFeb 18 14:20
gde33like 2 guys run into annother in a bar, they know lots of personal details about annother but have never met.Feb 18 14:21
msb_" the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.Feb 18 14:21
msb_-- Steven Greer quoting (sorry) Steve JobsFeb 18 14:22
msb_I'm an intellectual socialist.  From each according to his ability.  Some people have some good, even unique, ideas, even though they also put out a lot of crap.Feb 18 14:24
msb_Alex Jones is another.Feb 18 14:24
msb_afk; brb; MgCFeb 18 14:25
SosumiI think you guys should stop drinking :)Feb 18 14:29
icecrawler^ drinking lolFeb 18 14:37
icecrawleryou mainstream typesFeb 18 14:37
icecrawlerthink there is something wrong with people who think outside the boxFeb 18 14:37
icecrawleryou wouldn't believe in the mantids unless they were on CNNFeb 18 14:38
SosumiCartoon News Network?Feb 18 14:39
icecrawlerwatch this video mother fucker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4Feb 18 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | SIMON PARKES : The Project Avalon Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/glm9u ]Feb 18 14:39
Sosumiánd lol don't tell me you believe in the ET crapFeb 18 14:39
Sosumiand on con artists like David Ike and Alex JonesFeb 18 14:40
icecrawlerdude the "ET crap" is the truthFeb 18 14:40
Sosumiyeah rightFeb 18 14:40
Sosumiif you wanted to conceal advanced craft surely you would say "maybe they come from outer space"Feb 18 14:41
Sosumiand have a couple of nuttjobs following some guroFeb 18 14:41
Sosumilike again, David Ike or Alex JonesFeb 18 14:42
icecrawlerwhat about all the whistleblowersFeb 18 14:42
SosumiliesFeb 18 14:42
icecrawlerhundreds of ex airforce and ex navy solidersFeb 18 14:42
Sosumidisinfo agentsFeb 18 14:42
icecrawlerso hundreds of people are lying?Feb 18 14:42
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SosumiyesFeb 18 14:42
icecrawlersounds like a massive conspiracy to spread a lieFeb 18 14:42
icecrawlerconspiracy theoristFeb 18 14:42
iophkor just a lot of kooksFeb 18 14:42
icecrawlermantids killed jfkFeb 18 14:43
Sosumididn't the CIA take control of the religious broadcasts?Feb 18 14:43
iophktake it elsewhereFeb 18 14:43
icecrawlermsb_ might be the mantid that didFeb 18 14:43
Sosumispreading BS like "we are in the end times, bow down do nothing and read Romans 13"Feb 18 14:43
Sosumiit's all crapFeb 18 14:44
Sosumiand again, if you want to conceal advanced military hardwareFeb 18 14:44
icecrawlerthe mainstream media is all crapFeb 18 14:44
Sosumispecially of the kind that fliesFeb 18 14:44
Sosumithe best excuse is ETsFeb 18 14:45
icecrawlersame with all the brainwashing the reptilians do to keep people under controlFeb 18 14:45
Sosumisimply because of how gullible the ppeople areFeb 18 14:45
gde33I would compare our picture of aliens with the ants in my garden figuring out humansFeb 18 14:45
Sosumiyes reptilian, bewareFeb 18 14:45
Sosumithe queen of britain might turn in lizard the ripper and come to eat your soulFeb 18 14:46
Sosumiand your babiesFeb 18 14:46
Sosumiand your dogFeb 18 14:46
Sosumiand DrPizza's pizzaFeb 18 14:47
gde33I think the discussion is more about people being unable to get over first impressionsFeb 18 14:47
gde33you dont have to bother telling the atheist about god or the christian about the lack of godFeb 18 14:47
gde33so lets stick to the science? :DFeb 18 14:48
Sosumione is an entrenched belief built under the impressions of natureFeb 18 14:50
Sosumialiens are nonsenseFeb 18 14:50
gde33that is your first impressionFeb 18 14:50
gde33when you arrive at something being nonsense you also render yourself unable to investigateFeb 18 14:51
gde33investigating nonsense isn't going to happenFeb 18 14:51
Sosumialiens are nonsenseFeb 18 14:51
Sosumiso yes you can't investigate thatFeb 18 14:52
gde33you can investigate anythingFeb 18 14:52
gde33if you are able to keep an open mind, you can investigateFeb 18 14:52
Sosumibut for you having and "open mind" is accepting BSFeb 18 14:53
Sosumilike aliensFeb 18 14:53
gde33it is only BS for youFeb 18 14:53
icecrawlerfunny enough DrPizza was telling me this stuff the other dayFeb 18 14:54
gde33not for the researchers, some even believe there is something to itFeb 18 14:54
icecrawlerI was a skeptic but he convinced me mantids were realFeb 18 14:54
gde33hah, how did he do that?Feb 18 14:54
icecrawlerI've been abducted by one, I found outFeb 18 14:54
icecrawlerhe did a hypnosis session over skype with meFeb 18 14:54
gde33ahh so it isn't something you can proveFeb 18 14:55
icecrawlerDrPizza is pretty legitFeb 18 14:55
icecrawlerhe showed me this reptile brain he has in a jarFeb 18 14:56
SosumiyesFeb 18 14:56
Sosumithe brain he kept from his deceased iguanaFeb 18 14:56
gde33but you cant prove it is a reptilian brainFeb 18 14:57
Sosumiso an iguana doesn't have a brain?Feb 18 14:57
icecrawleryeah he did prove it was a reptile brainFeb 18 14:57
Sosuminor a snake?Feb 18 14:57
gde33but now that we have established you cant do research, then your conclusion is not based on research either.Feb 18 14:57
gde33hahaFeb 18 14:58
icecrawlerhe put the brain in an MRI machine over skype and killed some animals in front of itFeb 18 14:58
icecrawlerno empathy area of the brainFeb 18 14:58
Sosumiwhat about the micro$oft brain?Feb 18 14:58
gde33that is all anecdotalFeb 18 14:58
gde33lolFeb 18 14:58
gde33LO is goodFeb 18 14:59
gde33http://www.resologist.net/loei.htm   THE BOOK OF THE DAMNEDFeb 18 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.resologist.net | Lo!: A Hypertext Edition of Charles Hoy Fort's BookFeb 18 15:00
MinceRlolFeb 18 15:00
Sosumiwould DrPizza lend himself over to us for a high res MRIFeb 18 15:00
icecrawleranecdotal doesn't mean it didn't happenFeb 18 15:01
gde33it means we should accuse you of making stuff upFeb 18 15:01
gde33lolFeb 18 15:01
icecrawlerno it does notFeb 18 15:01
icecrawlerlook it upFeb 18 15:01
MinceRthis brain "experiment" sounds like Look Around YouFeb 18 15:01
gde33videos or it never happenedFeb 18 15:01
Sosumiso we can conduct tests on a sumulated copy of his brainFeb 18 15:01
icecrawlerjust means you can't take it as the only evidenceFeb 18 15:01
icecrawleryou can look at old egyptian runes thenFeb 18 15:01
icecrawlerwith reptilians drawn on themFeb 18 15:02
gde33many abductees talk with their psychatrist about itFeb 18 15:02
gde33the psychatrists talk about their patients, compare the casesFeb 18 15:02
gde33there is much consistency between the many casesFeb 18 15:02
icecrawlerwhen I was abducted my arm set of metal detectors for a few years until the chip disolvedFeb 18 15:02
gde33the best evidence is their number and that they are traumatised durring sleepFeb 18 15:03
gde33dreams dont produce life time traumasFeb 18 15:03
gde33I'm not saying it proves anythingFeb 18 15:03
gde33to argue with that you would have to be one of the psychatrists, able to discuss your patient professionally.Feb 18 15:04
gde33anything else is just pseudoscienceFeb 18 15:04
SosumilolFeb 18 15:04
Sosumiall human "sciences" are pseudosciencesFeb 18 15:05
icecrawleranything else is just reptilian propaganda mother fuckerFeb 18 15:05
gde33we had estabished you couldn't even do researchFeb 18 15:05
gde33lolFeb 18 15:05
gde33not that I would argue any of it is realFeb 18 15:05
icecrawlerpsychiatrists work for the graysFeb 18 15:06
gde33I believe there is true, false and unknownFeb 18 15:06
gde33unknown seems hard to get used to for peepsFeb 18 15:06
icecrawlermost people talk about area 51 but studio 54 has the real aliensFeb 18 15:06
MinceRicecrawler: let me guess... Xenu!Feb 18 15:06
msb_back nowFeb 18 15:07
msb_I knew a guy who discovered a room-temperature superconductor material -- titanium boride, IIRC.  Written up in Electronics magazine around 1980.Feb 18 15:09
gde33I admit facination with the abductions with implantsFeb 18 15:09
msb_Funny thing is, he was working at Wright-Patterson AFB, where the Roswell saucer was taken.Feb 18 15:09
icecrawlersounds like frozen thermite at 9/11 kooksFeb 18 15:10
gde33frozen?Feb 18 15:10
msb_But he denied being handed a piece of material and asked to duplicate it.Feb 18 15:10
Sosumi#techrights was invaded by UFOolsFeb 18 15:10
icecrawlergde33: yeah it sounds nutty alreadyFeb 18 15:10
gde33icecrawler: sounds like someone didn't read his conspiracy magazine properlyFeb 18 15:10
icecrawlergde33: DrPizza and msb_ debated with me over frozen thermite, where the government had mixed dry ice with thermiteFeb 18 15:11
icecrawlergde33: apparently it gets hot in reverse and freezes things so even a kick shatters themFeb 18 15:11
msb_"Frozen thermite" is total BS.Feb 18 15:11
Sosumi*frozen pizzaFeb 18 15:12
icecrawleri didnt believe it eitherFeb 18 15:12
gde33there is the milion dollar challange for anyone who can collapse a structure by dropping the top 2 floors on top of it.Feb 18 15:12
icecrawlerim in the camp that says 9/11 was aliens, and holograms made the UFO's look like human 747'sFeb 18 15:12
msb_Thermite is just  Al + Fe2O3Feb 18 15:12
msb_Freezing it wouldn't do anything, except make it a little harder to light.Feb 18 15:13
icecrawlermsb_ add dry ice to the mathFeb 18 15:13
gde33cutting reinforced steel with aluminum is funnyFeb 18 15:13
icecrawlerit works on paperFeb 18 15:13
gde33tears from laughterFeb 18 15:13
msb_Al is a very high energy fuel.  It will cut through almost anything.Feb 18 15:14
icecrawleryeah so the idea is that the frozen thermite froze the beams supercold and the aluminum was able to take it downFeb 18 15:14
gde33msb_: Kelvin was right, flying machines are impossible. :DFeb 18 15:15
icecrawlerbut why do you need some deus ex like frozen thermite when aliens can blow up a building with their alien weaponsFeb 18 15:15
icecrawlerholograms made it look like 474'sFeb 18 15:15
icecrawler747'sFeb 18 15:15
msb_Read here:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/Feb 18 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli GovernmentsFeb 18 15:16
icecrawlermsb_ disinfoFeb 18 15:16
icecrawlerthere were no planesFeb 18 15:16
msb_And here:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911Feb 18 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 18 15:16
iophkmsb_, icecrawler, take it to your own channel not hereFeb 18 15:16
icecrawleriophk this is my channelFeb 18 15:16
gde33this indeed doesn't seem a good channel for this stuffFeb 18 15:17
iophkit's not ufool channelFeb 18 15:17
gde33not desirable to have hereFeb 18 15:17
icecrawlerim shane, roy works for meFeb 18 15:17
iophktake it off this channelFeb 18 15:17
icecrawleri invented techrightsFeb 18 15:17
icecrawlerit was Conspiracy, UFOlogy, Microsoft Dirty Deeds, SuSE, SCO and BaconFeb 18 15:17
gde33hahahaFeb 18 15:17
icecrawlerbefore boycott-novell it was boycott-maj12Feb 18 15:18
icecrawlerso u gtfoFeb 18 15:19
*iophk has kicked icecrawler from #techrights ('take it elsewhere')Feb 18 15:19
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icecrawleriophk works for majestic 12Feb 18 15:19
gde33icecrawler: there is ##ufo and even ##conspiracy Feb 18 15:19
icecrawlerso much for tech freedomFeb 18 15:20
icecrawlerno rights hereFeb 18 15:20
gde33there areFeb 18 15:20
gde33it just doesn't make a good channel if you bring topics like thatFeb 18 15:20
icecrawlernobody has talked here in like a yearFeb 18 15:21
msb_icecrawler: You wouldn't get kicked if  you didn't keep spouting BS.Feb 18 15:21
icecrawlernow you're censoring the channel because you don't like to hear truthFeb 18 15:21
gde33I'm here for the links :)Feb 18 15:21
*iophk sets ban on *!icebawler@192-0-199-27.cpe.teksavvy.comFeb 18 15:21
icecrawleryeah talking about the fake planes always get me kickedFeb 18 15:21
gde33going to say nothing for a while nowFeb 18 15:21
icecrawlertill i talk to royFeb 18 15:21
icecrawlerroy doesnt censorFeb 18 15:21
icecrawlerill be backFeb 18 15:21
MinceRlol @ frozen thermiteFeb 18 15:23
icecrawlerfor the record: you guys are ok with msb blaming 9/11 on jews but I get kicked for saying aliens?Feb 18 15:24
MinceRiophk: the banmask doesn't allow for the ~ (from no identd)Feb 18 15:24
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iophkmincer: yeah, I'm on purple right now not konversation, not much is automatedFeb 18 15:25
icecrawlerhow about you just leave me aloneFeb 18 15:25
icecrawlerand ill shut up about ufosFeb 18 15:25
MinceRhow about you just leave us aloneFeb 18 15:25
icecrawlermark invited me hereFeb 18 15:26
icecrawlerto talk about free softwareFeb 18 15:26
icecrawlerwe got sidetrackedFeb 18 15:26
MinceRwhich mark?Feb 18 15:26
icecrawlermsbFeb 18 15:26
MinceRmsb?Feb 18 15:26
MinceRicFeb 18 15:26
gde33then dont side trackFeb 18 15:26
icecrawlerokFeb 18 15:26
icecrawlercentos7 is starting to look niceFeb 18 15:27
*icecrawler is a centos packagerFeb 18 15:27
gde33I think the world needs a windows vm with a linux distro preloaded, something like ubuntu.Feb 18 16:07
gde33then we windos users could finally learn how to use ubuntuFeb 18 16:08
iophkWubi used to be around for that.Feb 18 16:08
iophknot a VM thoughFeb 18 16:08
gde33I know, it is nice but not a vm indeedFeb 18 16:08
iophkpre-packaged images for VirtualBox and (I think) qemu exist,Feb 18 16:08
gde33I'm pointing at starting all over at computer powerlevel 0Feb 18 16:08
gde33armed with my windos apps I can attack any problem and learn any thingFeb 18 16:09
iophkbut the act of installing is instructive, too.  It's very simple and has been so for years.Feb 18 16:09
gde33if I boot ubuntu I just dont know wtf is going onFeb 18 16:09
iophkCan you run VirtualBox?Feb 18 16:09
gde33I can do this here http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/11287/how-to-run-ubuntu-in-windows-7-with-vmware-player/Feb 18 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | How To Run Ubuntu in Windows 7 with VMware Player [ http://ur1.ca/gnd6t ]Feb 18 16:10
gde33but that is a lot to ask from a windos userFeb 18 16:10
iophkvmware is not greatFeb 18 16:10
gde33mounting an iso and installing itFeb 18 16:10
iophkWith VirtualBox, you can click on the disc image to use for the initial boot of the VMFeb 18 16:10
iophkif you use an installer image then you install...Feb 18 16:11
gde33would it be possible to boot the same install as the one in the vm?Feb 18 16:11
iophkYou could boot the installed image in the VM after it is installed.  Feb 18 16:11
iophkOr during the installation, if the disc image is a "live" image you can run a live session instead.Feb 18 16:12
iophkhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualboxFeb 18 16:12
gde33that would totally take the pain out of migration?Feb 18 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.psychocats.net | Installing Ubuntu inside Windows using VirtualBoxFeb 18 16:12
iophkMost instructions are for putting Windows guests on a Linux host.Feb 18 16:12
iophkThe core of VirtualBox is FOSSFeb 18 16:13
iophkand it's cross-platformFeb 18 16:14
iophkso you can move your VM to another host laterFeb 18 16:14
iophkSince you are starting out, try using snapshots so you can undo experiments and mistakes.Feb 18 16:14
gde33good planFeb 18 16:15
iophkIf you want a preview of the next Ubuntu LTS, it is approaching beta already.  Or Mageia 4 was just released if you like RPM instead of APT.  Feb 18 16:16
icecrawlerwindows 8 comes with hyper-v, just use thatFeb 18 16:26
iophkIt's not  portable and probably does not work properly anyway.Feb 18 16:32
icecrawlerliesFeb 18 16:32
msb_Folks, I snoozed off, woke up just now, and reviewed what's been said.  I DID NOT INVITE ICECRAWLER HERE!!!Feb 18 16:32
msb_He's lying!Feb 18 16:32
iophkhttp://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Linux_Guest_System_Support_under_Hyper-VFeb 18 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thomas-krenn.com | Linux Guest System Support under Hyper-V - Thomas Krenn Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/gndcb ]Feb 18 16:33
icecrawlersee iophkFeb 18 16:33
icecrawlerworks fineFeb 18 16:33
iophkonly for certain versionsFeb 18 16:33
icecrawleranything made in the last yearFeb 18 16:33
icecrawlercentos 6.3 and upFeb 18 16:33
icecrawlerfedora since 18Feb 18 16:33
iophkVirtualBox is portable to other systems and older versions not just Vista8Feb 18 16:34
icecrawlerwho wants to run old linux distrosFeb 18 16:34
icecrawlervirtualbox is also slow as ballsFeb 18 16:34
icecrawlerhyper-v files can be used in vmware tooFeb 18 16:35
icecrawlervmware and hyper-v are the only vm systems that matter anywayFeb 18 16:35
iophkno one uses vmware now that virtualbox is availableFeb 18 16:35
icecrawlerwrongFeb 18 16:36
icecrawlervmware is used by business when they want speed instead of hippiesFeb 18 16:36
icecrawlervirtualbox, again, is slow as ballsFeb 18 16:36
icecrawleresxi eats it for breakfastFeb 18 16:36
gde33thats okFeb 18 16:36
gde33vm is good to learn a new distroFeb 18 16:37
icecrawleri dont want people to think linux is slow because of shitty virtualboxFeb 18 16:37
iophkpoor host software thenFeb 18 16:37
gde33I wonder what it would cost to do a windows vm with a linux distro preloaded, an option to boot the distro as well and an option to reset it.Feb 18 16:37
gde33if one would just hire programmers I meanFeb 18 16:38
icecrawleriophk: its called sun and oracle, the kings of bloaty slowwareFeb 18 16:38
icecrawlerthey dont call it slowlaris for nothing, and they made virtualboxFeb 18 16:38
gde33just buy a better computer :DFeb 18 16:38
icecrawlermy i7 4770 laughs at thatFeb 18 16:39
icecrawlervirtualbox is so shitty I can even tell on an overpowered computerFeb 18 16:39
icecrawleryou guys just have such slow computers, that everything is slow and you dont noticeFeb 18 16:39
gde33sure I doFeb 18 16:40
gde33I just dont want to boot into an os that I dont understand any ofFeb 18 16:40
icecrawlerprobably running core2duo's or AMD'sFeb 18 16:40
gde33I need the training wheelsFeb 18 16:40
gde33will glady pay for ellimination of dialogs that shouldn't be thereFeb 18 16:41
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/02/thief-reboot-runs-at-1080p-on-ps4-900p-on-xbox-one/Feb 18 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Thief reboot runs at 1080p on PS4, 900p on Xbox One | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gndfe ]Feb 18 16:46
Sosumiwhen is the m$ start paying game devs to make ps4 games worst?Feb 18 16:47
Sosumi*when is M$Feb 18 16:47
iophkThey might be losing control of the devs.Feb 18 16:48
iophkSteam is an example of the break-away.Feb 18 16:48
Sosumithey never had controlFeb 18 16:48
Sosumiremember? during the xbox 360 daysFeb 18 16:49
Sosumithey were buying timed exclusives and timed dlcFeb 18 16:49
XFaCEicecrawler: Have you seen Ender's Game yet? Heard it's mediocreFeb 18 16:49
SosumiexclusivityFeb 18 16:49
Sosumiwith in the end, the ps3 getting game+dlc+added content on a single game cdFeb 18 16:50
Sosumithat actually happened with some Tales gameFeb 18 16:51
Sosumim$ if they were smartFeb 18 16:52
Sosumiwould better just do what I've sayingFeb 18 16:52
Sosumiand turn the xbox on a fully fledged pc that ppl can use to synch their phone, music, browser the web and do doc editingFeb 18 16:53
Sosumior just pull out of the businessFeb 18 16:53
iophkI thought the xbox was just their experiment with DRM'd hardwareFeb 18 16:54
Sosumithen the ps1Feb 18 16:54
Sosumibeat them at thatFeb 18 16:54
iophkps2 had them beat even after the ps3 was outFeb 18 16:55
Sosumiif you want worstFeb 18 16:55
Sosuminintendo had full control of the distribution method of their consoles back during the cartrdge daysFeb 18 16:55
iophkcartridges were a fairly solid way to control distributionFeb 18 16:56
SosumiyepFeb 18 16:56
iophkalso people are more willing to shell out big money if they know they can easily resell the cartridge laterFeb 18 16:56
Sosumiso, even more tight than the xboxFeb 18 16:56
SosumiyesFeb 18 16:57
iophkyes, but the xbox was probably a model for locking down regular Windows machinesFeb 18 16:57
Sosumibut this past gen introduced passesFeb 18 16:57
Sosumiwich consisted of a code that you introduced to unluck certain features of the gameFeb 18 16:57
Sosumiif you had bought the game on second handFeb 18 16:58
Sosumithen you had to go to the console built in store and pay for that contentFeb 18 16:58
Sosumiboth ps3 and xbox had thatFeb 18 16:58
iophkthat looks to be the way they are trying to head, all of themFeb 18 16:58
iophkpretty soon you'll have to swipe your credit card through the machine just to bootFeb 18 16:59
iophkthen again to run a gameFeb 18 16:59
Sosumithe way they're heading is digitasl distroFeb 18 16:59
Sosumiyou buy it, dowload it and that is itFeb 18 16:59
Sosumino more resselling or tradingFeb 18 16:59
iophkdoctrine of first sale used to apply, but it is now turning into rentalFeb 18 17:00
Sosumijust like steam isFeb 18 17:00
iophkthat's a big down side to steamFeb 18 17:00
Sosumisteam isn't rentalFeb 18 17:00
Sosumiyou just lease the game for as long as you have the accountFeb 18 17:00
iophkclose enough Feb 18 17:00
Sosumithat is the model sony and M$ kind of wishFeb 18 17:01
Sosumialso situation in ukraine turning worstFeb 18 17:01
Sosumi5 more civilian deathsFeb 18 17:02
Sosumiand things still out of handFeb 18 17:02
Sosumifrom what I heard even the ukranian president is on temporary leaveFeb 18 17:02
Sosumiclaiming medical conditionsFeb 18 17:02
Sosumiwould poland under a covert nato protest dare to intervene?Feb 18 17:03
Sosumi*pretextFeb 18 17:03
Sosumithat would certainly end up with russian forces entering in from the eastFeb 18 17:04
iophkhttp://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale12x/presentations/opening-keynote-only-you-can-get-so-where-are-youFeb 18 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.socallinuxexpo.org | Opening Keynote: Only You Can Get This, So Where Are You? | SCALE 12x [ http://ur1.ca/gndjh ]Feb 18 17:05
Sosumialso military planes spotted flying above kievFeb 18 17:24
Sosumibut I doubt thatFeb 18 17:25
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icecrawlerI build my own UAVsFeb 18 18:00
icecrawlerI got the cops a ticket once for breaking the law, my UAVs follow policeFeb 18 18:04
icecrawlerpretty funnyFeb 18 18:04
icecrawlerusing their lights to get through a red light, tisk tiskFeb 18 18:05
icecrawlermother fucking copsFeb 18 18:05
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icecrawlerThese pigs stopped my friend once cause he drives a sports car; so I used my justice of the peace status I obtained with the freemen to search their car. I found cocaine they seized but never marked down as evidence. I had them tested a few days later.Feb 18 18:08
icecrawlerpunkedFeb 18 18:09
icecrawlermsb_ you get your justice of the peace status yet?Feb 18 18:12
msb_noFeb 18 18:13
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icecrawlerget yourself a bunch of signatures and get yourself sworn in front of a judgeFeb 18 18:13
icecrawleryou can act as a common law justice of the peaceFeb 18 18:14
msb_Why did you lie and say I had invited you here?Feb 18 18:14
icecrawleryou didFeb 18 18:14
msb_When and where?Feb 18 18:14
icecrawlerin ##conspiracyFeb 18 18:14
icecrawleryou're mark bilk right?Feb 18 18:15
icecrawlerit was a few months ago but i was getting my powermac fixedFeb 18 18:16
icecrawleri got a new ati card, 128mb and now it does 1080p to my tvFeb 18 18:16
icecrawlerlooks awesomeFeb 18 18:16
icecrawlerthis powermac g4 will live foreverFeb 18 18:17
icecrawlerbut anywaysFeb 18 18:17
icecrawleryou were saying in ##conspiracy that you only use linux because the CIA has backdoors in windows and osxFeb 18 18:17
msb_I did not say that.  Feb 18 18:18
icecrawleri talked to  you on the phone and you said you used susie lunixFeb 18 18:18
icecrawlerlinuxFeb 18 18:18
msb_And my irc client, konversation, keeps logs of all posts in all channels I visit.Feb 18 18:18
msb_There is no log for ##conspiracy.Feb 18 18:18
icecrawlerit was on the phoneFeb 18 18:18
icecrawleryou were in ##conspiracyFeb 18 18:19
icecrawlerbefore you changed your name to msb_Feb 18 18:19
msb_I use Linux because it's a much better OS than Windows or OSX.Feb 18 18:19
icecrawlerwhen it was mbilk_Feb 18 18:19
icecrawlerwhat about the NSA backdoorsFeb 18 18:20
msb_I've never used the nick mbilk in irc.Feb 18 18:20
icecrawlerRedhat and the NSA's Studio54 project to backdoor Linux with SELInuxFeb 18 18:20
roy_icecrawler: who are you?Feb 18 18:20
icecrawleryou were mbilk_ in ##conspiracy only last week MarkFeb 18 18:20
msb_That must have been someone else pretending to be me.Feb 18 18:21
*roy_ is now known as schestowitz__Feb 18 18:21
icecrawlerit could beFeb 18 18:21
msb_I have no log and no bookmark for ##conspiracy, and I was certainly not there last week using the name mbilk_.Feb 18 18:21
icecrawlernot sure how to tell, you told me you change hostnames and nicks a lot because of the CIAFeb 18 18:22
schestowitz__smells like infiltrator to meFeb 18 18:22
msb_I have never said any such thing, and I do not do it.Feb 18 18:22
schestowitz__Watch your language BTW, I think you're here just to spy on and distract the channelFeb 18 18:22
msb_There are several psychopaths from COLA who've stalked me for months in the past.Feb 18 18:23
MinceRvmware is horribly crapFeb 18 18:23
icecrawlerinteresting, i hope you catch that mother fucker. but mark, you seem like a cool guy with your aliens videosFeb 18 18:23
MinceRthey can't even do console properlyFeb 18 18:23
schestowitz__msb_: you needn't feed him, that thing is just some anon trying to discredit the channelFeb 18 18:23
icecrawlermsb_ come to ##conspiracyFeb 18 18:23
schestowitz__MinceR: bmware is for windiotsFeb 18 18:23
MinceRindeedFeb 18 18:23
schestowitz__vm_bwareFeb 18 18:23
schestowitz__who want to be spoonfed with a GUI even for a consoleFeb 18 18:24
msb_schestowitz__: Are you talking to icecrawler or to me regarding language, spying, etc?Feb 18 18:24
schestowitz__Vsphere on Windows connected to Linux consoles makes them as insecure as Windows, i.e. NSA honeypotsFeb 18 18:24
schestowitz__same for MS' HYPE-VFeb 18 18:24
schestowitz__msb_: I think there's an attempt to paint us negativelyFeb 18 18:25
icecrawleroh did I commit the crime of mentioning proprietary productsFeb 18 18:25
schestowitz__I saw that done to globalresearch.ca/chudorovskyFeb 18 18:25
MinceRi wouldn't mind the GUI, if it workedFeb 18 18:25
MinceRbut it's winblows garbageFeb 18 18:25
icecrawlermincer, are you 15?Feb 18 18:25
schestowitz__All they have to do is drop some **** here and then say "look, techrights says [x] [y]..."Feb 18 18:25
MinceRicecrawler: are you 13?Feb 18 18:26
icecrawler"winblows"?Feb 18 18:26
MinceRu mad?Feb 18 18:26
icecrawlerlol real mature broFeb 18 18:26
MinceRcall the waaaaahmbulance, someone mocked icecrawler's favorite OSFeb 18 18:26
schestowitz__[18:04] <icecrawler> I got the cops a ticket once for breaking the law, my UAVs follow policeFeb 18 18:26
schestowitz__^ and provocation  to make us look radicalFeb 18 18:26
schestowitz__and foul-mouthedFeb 18 18:26
MinceRand a liarFeb 18 18:27
icecrawlerim a crime fighterFeb 18 18:27
MinceRno you're notFeb 18 18:27
schestowitz__you are paid by gchq?Feb 18 18:27
icecrawlerits all legalFeb 18 18:27
MinceRwhatever the lobbyists buy is legalFeb 18 18:27
icecrawlerim a justice of the peace and I have an air licenseFeb 18 18:27
MinceRwhatever the secret courts prop up is legalFeb 18 18:27
icecrawleri catch those police mother fuckers doing all kinds of crimes like parking in handicapped spots; using their lights to get through reds; smoking in their carsFeb 18 18:29
icecrawlerwhy is it wrong to use drones against mother fucking government douches ?Feb 18 18:29
icecrawlersurveillance, no weaponsFeb 18 18:29
*schestowitz__ installed tor and privacy-centric browsers on Android today...Feb 18 18:31
icecrawleryou must be a terrorist schestowitzFeb 18 18:32
icecrawlerbetter install tor on that ak-47 tooFeb 18 18:32
MinceRschestowitz__: which browsers?Feb 18 18:32
MinceRi'm guessing orweb is one :>Feb 18 18:33
icecrawlerchromeFeb 18 18:33
MinceRhar har harFeb 18 18:33
icecrawlerits the most secure, each tab has its own PIDFeb 18 18:34
icecrawlerjust use /etc/hosts to filter safebrowsingFeb 18 18:34
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icecrawlerDaemonFC how much bitcoin do I owe youFeb 18 18:34
msb_I think we should go back to the kwatloo standard.  It has much more history.Feb 18 18:35
DaemonFCfor what?Feb 18 18:36
msb_For money.  Bitcoins are meaningless.Feb 18 18:36
MinceRwhat's a "kwatloo standard"?Feb 18 18:36
msb_Sorry.  Startrek original series episode.Feb 18 18:37
MinceRicFeb 18 18:37
MinceRi should probably watch that eventuallyFeb 18 18:37
DaemonFCIf they're meaningless, then give me a ton of them. I'll cash them out for USD and go buy myself a new car or something.Feb 18 18:37
DaemonFC:)Feb 18 18:37
MinceR:)Feb 18 18:37
DaemonFCAnything you can cash out for US dollars is at least as good as the number of US dollars you can get for them.Feb 18 18:38
msb_People used to talk about kwatloos on Usenet years ago.  I'm an old fart.Feb 18 18:39
DaemonFCI even have some Euro coins as souvenirs. Feb 18 18:39
*MinceR gets off the lawnFeb 18 18:39
DaemonFCIt's good for the European economy when tourists take them back to their home country where they can't be spent.Feb 18 18:40
DaemonFCIt's basically the same thing as burning money.Feb 18 18:40
icecrawlerDaemonFC for the sniper rifleFeb 18 18:41
DaemonFCMoney can only cause inflation when it's in circulation.Feb 18 18:41
msb_As uncertain as it is to rely on some government for exchanging something useful for its paper money, nobody guarantees that bitcoins are worth anything.Feb 18 18:42
DaemonFCIf people hold it and never demand anything for it, then it can't cause price inflation.Feb 18 18:42
MinceRmsb_: there are no absolute guarantees for the value of any currency.Feb 18 18:42
msb_True, but relying on the (evil) US govt is better than relying on nothing.Feb 18 18:43
DaemonFCPrices in the US have remained stable even  though the Federal Reserve has created many trillions of dollars in the last few years.Feb 18 18:43
DaemonFCWhy? :)Feb 18 18:44
msb_They haven't.  Prices slowly increase.Feb 18 18:44
DaemonFCSlow stable inflation is nothing to be alarmed about, so long as wages are increasing as well.Feb 18 18:44
msb_Food companies sneakily decrease the size of their containers.Feb 18 18:45
DaemonFCI remember when the US had 4-5% annual inflation and it was "morning in America".Feb 18 18:45
msb_I doubt that wages are increasing at all.Feb 18 18:45
msb_And at least 25% of would-be workers are unemployed.Feb 18 18:45
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DaemonFCRight. And people with no buying power can't command the economy to give them anything.Feb 18 18:46
DaemonFCThereby controlling inflation. :)Feb 18 18:46
DaemonFCPrices can only rise if consumers will agree to pay the new price.Feb 18 18:46
msb_If they don't, they starve.Feb 18 18:47
DaemonFCWell, even with food, there's a substitution effect.Feb 18 18:47
msb_Sure.  Grass, tree bark...Feb 18 18:47
DaemonFCIf the price of beef goes up, you buy chicken.Feb 18 18:48
msb_Fried rats.Feb 18 18:48
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DaemonFCOfficial inflation figures exclude the price of food and energy.Feb 18 18:48
msb_Cute, eh?Feb 18 18:49
DaemonFCSo it can provide data that suggests that inflation is lower than it really is.Feb 18 18:49
DaemonFCRight. Once you exclude the two most out of control things in the economy.....Feb 18 18:49
msb_They should exclude the cost of rent, clothing, and medical care.  Then things would be perfect.Feb 18 18:49
icecrawlerCause medical care is expensiveFeb 18 18:50
msb_I'm starving to death on the street, but life is perfect.Feb 18 18:50
icecrawlerOh noes, bandaids cost a few bucksFeb 18 18:50
DaemonFCThey don't track rent. They do track housing prices.Feb 18 18:50
DaemonFCThat tells you nothing.Feb 18 18:51
DaemonFCA slumlord can buy a house for next to nothing and charge an obscene amount of rent.Feb 18 18:51
icecrawlerits 2014: cheap people are being cheapFeb 18 18:51
DaemonFCAnd he can get away with it as long as you don't have the credit to buy your own house.Feb 18 18:51
icecrawlerlol a slumlordFeb 18 18:52
icecrawlerthey become that way when someone who rents destroys the placeFeb 18 18:52
msb_No, they become that way when they realize they can raise the rents and people still have to pay.Feb 18 18:53
icecrawleri've paid the same rent for five yearsFeb 18 18:53
icecrawlernow I have a pool that didn't exist when I moved inFeb 18 18:53
DaemonFCSome landlords only bother to raise the rent when you move out and another tenant moves in.Feb 18 18:54
DaemonFCThey figure that most tenants only stay for a few years anyway, so they don't bother to jack the rent up every year.Feb 18 18:55
DaemonFCI moved in to my last apartment in January 2007. The lease expired in January 2008. I was living there until December 2012.Feb 18 18:55
SosumiI bet the both the NSA and CIA also have dedicated teams exploiting gnu/linux 24/7Feb 18 18:55
schestowitz__msb_: yes, orwebFeb 18 18:55
Sosumiso, no place to hideFeb 18 18:56
DaemonFCUnder Indiana law, if the lease expires, you continue under the terms of the old lease until a new lease is signed.Feb 18 18:56
icecrawlermost places are like that DaemonFCFeb 18 18:56
MinceRschestowitz__: that's just one browser, not 'browsers' :>Feb 18 18:56
DaemonFCThe landlord probably figured that it was better to have a tenant that he knew would always pay on time and wasn't tearing the place up than it would be to jack up the rent $20 and provoke me into leaving.Feb 18 18:56
MinceRgeekingsFeb 18 18:58
msb_schestowitz__: Apparently orweb is for Android, which I don't use.  Did you mean to answer someone else?Feb 18 18:58
MinceRyes, he meant to answer meFeb 18 18:58
schestowitz__MinceR: added to firefox, tooFeb 18 18:59
MinceRicFeb 18 18:59
schestowitz__MinceR: yes, MinceRFeb 18 18:59
iophkbetter to use TBB than to try to customize Firefox.  You could do it, but with TBB the work is already done.Feb 18 18:59
schestowitz__msb_: yes, MinceRFeb 18 18:59
schestowitz__autocompleteFeb 18 18:59
DaemonFCmsb_: There's only one thing that keeps prices in check. Competition.Feb 18 18:59
schestowitz__scrolling back I think I've just landed into another SurfingTheApocalypseFeb 18 18:59
schestowitz__One troll managed to sature the channel with lots of crap about "reptilians" and stuffFeb 18 19:00
DaemonFCLandlords can't generally get away with charging much more than the prevailing rent in the area. If they go much higher, then people will simply move somewhere else.Feb 18 19:00
schestowitz__Later groups like ACT say we're "conspiracy theorists"Feb 18 19:00
schestowitz__And Mono boosters say we call for people to be assassinatedFeb 18 19:00
icecrawlermsb_ was linking some high quality videos about mantidsFeb 18 19:00
icecrawlernot reptiliansFeb 18 19:00
DaemonFCThe situation most favorable to renters is when there are no shortage of apartments, which means that landlords have to cut rent prices to keep them from going empty.Feb 18 19:01
msb_Anyone who uses the term  "conspiracy theorists" is a fool, a government stooge, or both.Feb 18 19:01
schestowitz__that's the term they useFeb 18 19:01
schestowitz__not meFeb 18 19:01
msb_I understand that.Feb 18 19:02
schestowitz__!google carlin conspiracy theoristFeb 18 19:02
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - George Carlin - Conspiracy Theorists - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbO0-u900OG4Feb 18 19:02
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - George Carlin - Conspiracy Theorists and Powerful People - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D5QOVdE_3anUFeb 18 19:02
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - George Carlin on Conspiracy Theories and the NWO - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DgtpZ65V0DPUFeb 18 19:02
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Prison Planet.com » George Carlin – Conspiracy Theorists | http://www.prisonplanet.com/george-carlin-%25E2%2580%2593-conspiracy-theorists.htmlFeb 18 19:02
DaemonFCThe government can use rent control laws, but if they get too aggressive, those can backfire.Feb 18 19:02
DaemonFCIf they pass a law that says that nobody may charge more than $200 a month for a one bedroom apartment, then all of a sudden, there are no apartments, because no landlord will rent them out at a loss.Feb 18 19:02
MinceR200002 < schestowitz__> One troll managed to sature the channel with lots of crap about "reptilians" and stuffFeb 18 19:03
MinceRshould we ban them?Feb 18 19:03
DaemonFChttp://www.goodreads.com/quotes/538135-we-economists-don-t-know-much-but-we-do-know-howFeb 18 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Milton Friedman: We economists don't know much, but we do know h... [ http://ur1.ca/gnep8 ]Feb 18 19:03
msb_DaemonFC: 99% of the wealth goes to 1% of the population.  We'd be much better off with democratic socialism.Feb 18 19:05
DaemonFCI don't see a particularly good excuse for $3.60 a gallon gas.Feb 18 19:07
msb_We have no way of knowing who or what is at the top of the domination/control pyramid of our planet.  Calling any mention of aliens "crap" is not intellectually honest.Feb 18 19:07
DaemonFChttp://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/rs-500-us-oil-production1.jpgFeb 18 19:08
DaemonFClolFeb 18 19:08
MinceRmsb_: implicitly assuming that unknown people must be aliens is also not intellectually honest.Feb 18 19:09
msb_MinceR: I don't assume that.  But I do listen to coherent people who say it, and Sumerians who wrote about it copiously.Feb 18 19:10
msb_It's a possibility worth considering.Feb 18 19:10
MinceRdid we not listen? :>Feb 18 19:10
msb_Sure.Feb 18 19:11
msb_I was mostly speaking to Roy's objections.Feb 18 19:11
msb_I hang out in this channel because there are some smart people here, and the topic is the relationship of Linux and FOSS to society.Feb 18 19:12
msb_e.g., swpats, open journals, etc.Feb 18 19:13
msb_gde33 gave me perfect help for my website html!Feb 18 19:14
MinceRthat's niceFeb 18 19:14
schestowitz__MinceR: don't feedFeb 18 19:17
msb_The fact is, the higher you look on the control pyramid, the weird things get -- bankers being killed recently, mind-controlled slaves, pederasty, even child sacrifice.Feb 18 19:17
msb_So it could be just extreme psychopaths and psychotics, or it could be aliens feeding off human agony.Feb 18 19:18
msb_weird-->weirderFeb 18 19:19
msb_Anyhow, I only talk about aliens when somebody else mentions it first.Feb 18 19:20
iophkhttp://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2014/02/17/meet-microsofts-new-old-head-of-lync-and-skype/Feb 18 19:21
iophkhttp://www.itworld.com/unified-communications/405602/microsoft-pushes-ahead-skype-lync-integrationFeb 18 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.fortune.cnn.com | Meet Microsoft's new (old) head of Lync and Skype - Fortune Tech [ http://ur1.ca/gnez1 ]Feb 18 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Microsoft pushes ahead with Skype-Lync integration | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gnez2 ]Feb 18 19:21
msb_iophk: That sure needs a good open-source substitute.Feb 18 19:22
msb_schestowitz__: I am not a "troll", and if people talk to me it is not "feeding".Feb 18 19:26
DaemonFCI noticed that something scratched the hood of my car.Feb 18 19:29
DaemonFCI have no idea what happened.Feb 18 19:29
DaemonFC*sigh* This is why I can't have nice things.Feb 18 19:29
msb_I'd make a joke here, but i don't want to piss Roy off any more than he already is.Feb 18 19:30
msb_Just get some touchup paint.Feb 18 19:30
schestowitz__msb_:  I was not referring to youFeb 18 19:32
msb_What was that old movie about a giant bird, which at the end carried off the guy who played in a long-running TV show, maybe Highway Patrol?Feb 18 19:33
DaemonFCI suppose I could get some touch up paint. The last owner did some really awful scratch repair in certain spots already. Looks like he painted it with toenail polish.Feb 18 19:33
msb_schestowitz__: Oh, good!  Thanks!Feb 18 19:33
DaemonFCIt never ends up looking right, but at least it won't rust.Feb 18 19:34
msb_DaemonFC: And you could paint over the toenail polish using the right color.Feb 18 19:34
msb_Or paint your entire car with toenail polish and glitter!Feb 18 19:35
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MinceRwhat could possibly go wrong? :>Feb 18 19:37
iophkmsb_: SIP clients include Ekiga, Linphone and Jitsi.  They all work with each other.Feb 18 19:41
msb_iophk: I've never been able to get any of those to work, but maybe when I update my Linux...Feb 18 19:44
msb_iophk: Does SIP do video and conferencing?Feb 18 19:45
iophkLinphone is is cross-platformFeb 18 19:45
iophkhttp://www.linphone.org/eng/download/packages/linphone.htmlFeb 18 19:45
iophkas is JitsiFeb 18 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linphone.org | Linphone 3.6.0 | Linphone, an open-source video sip phone [ http://ur1.ca/gnf5g ]Feb 18 19:45
iophkmsb_:  yes but it depends on the clientFeb 18 19:53
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iophkI'm not sure of an upper limit on conference call partiticpantsFeb 18 19:54
msb_For now, I use skype (which I did long before MS bought it), or IHU (if the other person is using Linux).  IHU is easy to set up.Feb 18 19:55
msb_But the old statically-linked version of IHU doesn't work with modern Linux.Feb 18 19:56
iophkSome use Google Hangouts but I'd not want to give more over to Google any more.Feb 18 19:56
MinceRskype was untrustworthy long before m$ bought it :>Feb 18 19:57
iophkIt was/is a major security hole.Feb 18 19:58
iophk(skype)Feb 18 19:58
MinceRindeedFeb 18 19:59
msb_I just don't care who listens in.  I have nothing to hide.Feb 18 19:59
msb_Google drops services without notice.  I have a feeling it's becoming evil.Feb 18 20:00
MinceRbecoming? :>Feb 18 20:00
iophkSince the IPO it is only a matter of time.  Feb 18 20:00
iophkhttp://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/the-data-trust-blog/2009/02/debunking-a-myth-if-you-have-n.htmlFeb 18 20:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Debunking a myth: If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear - Identity, Privacy and Trust [ http://ur1.ca/gnf84 ]Feb 18 20:00
msb_Skype does have good quieting and echo-cancellation on a good platform.Feb 18 20:00
iophkI found the sound quality poor due to distortion and there were frequent disconnections.Feb 18 20:01
MinceRi don't think that obfuscated nonfree code that needs to communicate with random peers on random ports is a "good platform"Feb 18 20:01
iophkBut that was years ago.Feb 18 20:01
iophkThe closed protocol used by skype is probably as bad as the closed source.Feb 18 20:02
MinceRindeed.Feb 18 20:02
iophkIt prevents growth and competition.Feb 18 20:02
msb_by good platform I meant a good computer, not a doorstop -er- tablet.Feb 18 20:03
msb_IHU works well, but it probably has to be recompiled these days.  A friend found an Ubuntu version, but he had very low mike volume on his doorstop.Feb 18 20:05
MinceRhow would you stop a door with a tablet?Feb 18 20:07
msb_First stomp on one side of it to make it lower so you can get it under the door.Feb 18 20:09
msb_OK, here's my ip-address  98.248.33.213, and here's IHU:  http://ihu.sourceforge.net/  http://ihu.sourceforge.net/download.html Feb 18 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ihu.sourceforge.net | I Hear U (IHU) Project HomepageFeb 18 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ihu.sourceforge.net | IHU DownloadFeb 18 20:11
msb_Would somebody please run it (probably have to recompile unless you have an old Linux) and call me?Feb 18 20:12
msb_You can test it by calling your own address.  If you hear your voice, slightly delayed, it's working.Feb 18 20:12
msb_It's much easier than SIP.  You only have to open one port in your firewall.Feb 18 20:15
iophkSIP goes through the firewall just fine.Feb 18 20:15
iophkhttp://falkvinge.net/2012/07/19/debunking-the-dangerous-nothing-to-hide-nothing-to-fear/Feb 18 20:16
msb_Without opening any ports?Feb 18 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-falkvinge.net | Debunking The Dangerous "If You Have Nothing To Hide, You Have Nothing To Fear" - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/9szfq ]Feb 18 20:16
iophkI've never had to open anyFeb 18 20:16
msb_It must be like skype where it keeps a channel open to the server.Feb 18 20:16
MinceRor it could optionally use TURN or STUNFeb 18 20:17
MinceRor IPv6 :>Feb 18 20:19
DaemonFCI might go wash my carFeb 18 20:20
DaemonFCIt's warm enough to do it right now.Feb 18 20:20
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msb_Yes!  At 2450 seconds into The Vulture starring Broderick Crawford, you can see him carried off a balcony by a giant bird!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZILfQ1DeT3YFeb 18 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The vulture 1967 Full movie. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gnfqm ]Feb 18 21:36
msb_DaemonFC: which is probably what scratched your car!Feb 18 21:36
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msb_Then there is The Giant Claw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olezaLrnYzE  featuring what must be the silliest-looking monster ever, and lots of jet planes.Feb 18 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | the giant claw - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gnfri ]Feb 18 21:38
DaemonFCmsb_: Probably one of those winter storms.Feb 18 21:43
DaemonFCProbably knocked a tree branch loose or something.Feb 18 21:43
DaemonFCI would say it was a vandal, except that vandals tend to do more damage than that while they're at it anyway, and....I haven't done anything to anyone, lately.Feb 18 21:44
DaemonFCB-)Feb 18 21:44
msb_The Giant Claw flies in the wintertime!Feb 18 21:44
DaemonFCmsb_: The car has some minor exterior issues.Feb 18 21:44
DaemonFCThe interior is in great shape. The frame is strong and has minimal rust.Feb 18 21:44
msb_We all have issues.Feb 18 21:44
DaemonFCThe engine, transmission, and other stuff is all in good shape.Feb 18 21:45
DaemonFCI think the car should last at least another 10 years.Feb 18 21:45
msb_Usually The Giant Claw would eat giant bugs like those at the beginning of _Rodan_.Feb 18 21:49
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msb_My wonderful cat Fog looked just like Rodan when I pushed her ears together to make little horns on her head.  I called her Foggy-Rodan.Feb 18 21:50
DaemonFCThat prune juice really did the trick.Feb 18 21:51
DaemonFCMaybe a little bit too well.Feb 18 21:52
msb_Note that The Feb 18 21:52
msb_Note that The Vulture has theremin music!Feb 18 21:52
DaemonFCI might cut it back to 10 ounces instead of 16.Feb 18 21:52
msb_I true Warrior's Drink!Feb 18 21:52
msb_It's an ordeal drug.  You must clench up and hold it in!Feb 18 21:54
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx12RQINX3WZD7WFeb 18 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Choosing "Spanish" on customer support lines is more likely to connect you to an American that speaks understandable English. [ http://ur1.ca/gnfzl ]Feb 18 22:07
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 18 22:07
DaemonFChttp://lifehacker.com/choose-the-spanish-option-for-better-customer-service-1525064199Feb 18 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | Choose the Spanish Option for Better Customer Service [ http://ur1.ca/gnfzp ]Feb 18 22:07
DaemonFCAccording to this article, people who choose "English" are more likely to get their call sent to a foreign call center, while people who choose "Spanish" are more likely to get routed to an American call center agent that actually speaks English quite well.Feb 18 22:07
DaemonFCSo, I will start selecting Spanish to see if I can support American jobs and getting a customer support agent that speaks intelligible English.Feb 18 22:07
DaemonFCI wonder if this trick works when you call Comcast... Feb 18 22:07
DaemonFC*and getFeb 18 22:07
*DaemonFC paid some medical copays...Feb 18 22:16
DaemonFCOuch.Feb 18 22:17
DaemonFCAt least I can put them on my rewards card and get some miles. :PFeb 18 22:17
DaemonFCI couldn't wash my car. The hose was frozen.Feb 18 22:23
DaemonFCI dug up the hose. It should be 56 degrees on Thursday. I can wash the car then.Feb 18 22:23
DaemonFCI hate winter. I have to go to the car wash. I can wash my car by hand for about 50 cents. It costs $10 at the car wash. :PFeb 18 22:24
DaemonFCThe snow is melting at least. It should be above freezing for the next 3 days. All the snow should be gone.Feb 18 22:24
DaemonFCI like to wash the car about once every 2 weeks. It keeps all the road crap and bird shit off of it.Feb 18 22:25
DaemonFCThat stuff will eat right through a car if you don't keep it washed.Feb 18 22:26
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/lync-skype-video-chat-shown-for-the-first-time-coming-later-this-year/Feb 18 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lync-Skype video chat shown for the first time, coming later this year | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gng5y ]Feb 18 22:26
Sosumiwe need an alternative for thatFeb 18 22:26
Sosumibut alsoFeb 18 22:26
Sosumitypical m$Feb 18 22:26
Sosumiwhy not merge both clientsFeb 18 22:26
Sosumiand call it skylyncFeb 18 22:27
Sosumior skylinkFeb 18 22:27
Sosumikind of like crapple had with ichatFeb 18 22:27
Sosumiwhich supported bonjour, thus allowing you to chat with you co-workers on the same networkFeb 18 22:28
Sosumi*yourFeb 18 22:28
Sosumiand skylink actually sounds awesomeFeb 18 22:29
MinceRwhy not indeed, by now it's obvious that lync users don't care about their business secretsFeb 18 22:30
Sosumiif you care about business secrets you don't rely on M$ products nor google servicesFeb 18 22:31
Sosumiso it is okFeb 18 22:31
Sosumijust merge them, one client to do them allFeb 18 22:31
Sosumiskype, lync, jabber and why not? google hangoutsFeb 18 22:32
Sosumiand since tomorrow's going to be another busy dayFeb 18 22:33
SosumiGN :)Feb 18 22:33
msb_Just call it SkyNet.  Fulfill the prophecy!!!Feb 18 22:55
MinceRgnFeb 18 23:04
MinceRskype.NETFeb 18 23:04
MinceRif m$ developed skynet, it wouldn't have gotten anywhereFeb 18 23:05
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DaemonFCI posted this on Indiana Governor Mike Pence's Facebook wall.Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFChttps://eff.org/r.ev71Feb 18 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Support the Right to Repair in South Dakota (and Everywhere Else) | Electronic Frontier FoundationFeb 18 23:47
DaemonFCIndiana needs such a law. Of course, any device with proprietary binary-only software is not going to be fully serviceable by the owner*, so we also need a law that makes it illegal to ship a device that will only run firmware that is signed by the company that made the device.Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFCUsers should be free to replace the firmware on their device with software that respects their freedom.Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFCOf course, that would make parasitic companies that are hostile to freedom, such as Microsoft and Apple, very angry.Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFCIf Microsoft gets what it wants, it will eventually make it impossible to turn off Restricted Boot on these new computers that come with uEFI firmware, so that the owner cannot replace the Windows operating system with one that respects their freedom, such as Fedora GNU/Linux.Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFCSo, Indiana also needs to pass a law that makes it illegal for an OEM to restrict a computer to a particular operating system.Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFC*(For example, Ford Motor Company dropped to #26 out of 28 vehicle manufacturers on the Consumer Reports reliability ratings, largely because of problems with MyTouch, which uses proprietary Microsoft software. Of course, nobody should want proprietary software in their car, and especially when it has GPS capabilities and spyware from the car manufacturer. Ford admitted that MyTouch exists to gobble up data on their customers. Other manufacturersFeb 18 23:47
DaemonFCare doing similar things.)Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFCThere was some speculation that Microsoft was going to hire Ford's CEO as their replacement for Ballmer.Feb 18 23:52
DaemonFCThey like to reward executives from other businesses that take a shit all over the good name of their products by imposing Microsoft software onto their customers.Feb 18 23:53
DaemonFChttp://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/hot-pockets-recalled-103642.htmlFeb 19 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.politico.com | Nestle recalls some Hot Pockets - Associated Press - POLITICO.com [ http://ur1.ca/gngrp ]Feb 19 00:12
DaemonFCI ate some of these.Feb 19 00:12
icecrawler<DaemonFC> If Microsoft gets what it wants, it will eventually make it impossible to turn off Restricted Boot on these new computers that come with uEFI firmware, so that the owner cannot replace the Windows operating system with one that respects their freedom, such as Fedora GNU/Linux.Feb 19 00:33
icecrawlerFedora purchased a signing key from Microsoft, you can install Fedora on a surface pro as easily as any other computerFeb 19 00:34
icecrawlerSame with any distro that decides to use the Linux foundation keyFeb 19 00:35
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icecrawlerim told by people in the inner circles at redhat that systemd's intregration in gnome is more about blocking bsd because of clang than it is about controlling linuxFeb 19 00:48
DaemonFCShim was a necessary evil, but it is still evil.Feb 19 01:04
DaemonFCNobody should require Microsoft's permission (which they can revoke!) to use different software on their computer, which is their personal property.Feb 19 01:05
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msb_icecrawler: Would you (or anyone) please explain what this means " systemd's intregration in gnome is more about blocking bsd because of clang than it is about controlling linux".Feb 19 02:02
msb_Does BSD use clang?  Do some Linux people oppose the use of clang?  How do systemd and gnome relate to that?Feb 19 02:06
DaemonFCMonro is such a piece of crap company.Feb 19 02:08
DaemonFCThey send a coupon for a $19.99 oil change and tire rotation.Feb 19 02:08
DaemonFCThen they say "An additional $2.50 waste oil recycling fee applies. A service fee of 9.99% will be added to all service work"Feb 19 02:09
DaemonFCSo by the time you get done, it's actually $25. $1 less than going to Walmart. Feb 19 02:10
DaemonFCSince Android users have the freedom to back up APK files that they have purchased, they can install Flappy Bird to their other devices.Feb 19 02:54
DaemonFCMeanwhile, used iPhones with Flappy Bird installed are going for $900 on eBay because Apple removed customer access to a program that they had paid for, and there's no way to back up your packages.Feb 19 02:54
DaemonFCHa Ha!Feb 19 02:54
DaemonFCLike · · Share · a few seconds ago ·Feb 19 02:54
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DaemonFCSomeone made another post about Indiana becoming the Island Of The Uninsured (every surrounding state is expanding Medicaid, but Indiana is not), so I replied:Feb 19 03:21
DaemonFCEveryone that would otherwise qualify for Medicaid under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act should apply for Medicaid anyway. When they deny you, go through the appeals process. When the appeals process is complete, apply again. If enough people do this, they'll get into a paperwork jam and have to spend lots of state time and state money to clear the backlog. Maybe they'll just give up and take the federal Medicaid expansion money.Feb 19 03:21
DaemonFCshared a link via The Atlantic.Feb 19 03:36
DaemonFC9 seconds agoFeb 19 03:36
DaemonFChttp://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2014/02/how-get-out-parking-tickets/8412/Feb 19 03:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlanticcities.com | An App That Promises to Get You Out of Parking Tickets - Emily Badger - The Atlantic Cities [ http://ur1.ca/gnhqh ]Feb 19 03:36
DaemonFCI scanned a parking permit into my computer and kept changing the expiration date on it and printing out a new one every month, instead of paying to park in a city lot. That was when I lived in an apartment with no place to park my car. I got away with it for over a year and a half and saved myself a couple hundred dollars during that time. Then I moved.Feb 19 03:37
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icecrawlermsb_ freebsd switched to using llvm/clang instead of gccFeb 19 04:07
msb_icecrawler: Thanks!  Why would Linux people want to block it?Feb 19 04:08
msb_icecrawler: BTW, if you ever see that "mbilk" nick in irc again, please let me know immediately.  mark@cosmicpenguin.comFeb 19 04:10
DaemonFCIndiana's House Republicans sent me an email stating that they were reading books to poor children.Feb 19 04:15
DaemonFCI wonder if it was My Pet Goat, or if they make a delightful series of Ayn Rand childrens books now....Feb 19 04:15
DaemonFCIt turns out that the goat was a worthless taker and so they had it put down.Feb 19 04:15
DaemonFCI was at a restaurant with my mom a few years ago. She asked me what I was eating. I told her "goat". "Goat?", she asked. I replied, "Yeaaaaahhhhh!"Feb 19 04:15
DaemonFCThank you! I'll be here all night.Feb 19 04:15
DaemonFCTime for the prune juice....Feb 19 04:36
DaemonFCmsb_: A warrior's drink!Feb 19 04:36
msb_Keep clenching!  It is a test!Feb 19 04:39
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx33RJQCT0OI3MIFeb 19 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: How Ignorant Are Americans? [ http://ur1.ca/gni47 ]Feb 19 04:57
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 19 04:57
DaemonFC"How Ignorant Are Americans?"Feb 19 04:57
DaemonFCI don't know. Feb 19 04:57
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 19 06:14
DaemonFCI always did laugh at "Hot Pocket" steak. They go on sale for $1.49 a package. or about 74.5 cents per sandwich. What kind of steak did people think they were using? Feb 19 06:14
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schestowitz__morning allFeb 19 07:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #EU Parliament Negotiations on Net Neutrality Taking a Disastrous Turn http://t.co/PwF7XT14q8 #europe #netneutralityFeb 19 08:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A Nicely-Built 40-Core Raspberry Pi Cluster http://t.co/39YWr0GiTa still low-cost, and good for some tasks. #linuxFeb 19 08:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Need a Good Bitcoin Client? http://t.co/gCrpmypCEz #bitcoin #gnu #linuxFeb 19 08:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The quest for the perfect Twitter client on Linux http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2014/02/18/twitterclient/ #gnu #linux #twitterFeb 19 08:57
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MinceRgeekingsFeb 19 09:15
msb_MinceR: Hi!Feb 19 09:16
MinceRhayFeb 19 09:16
msb_The "Hot Pocket" discussion above has made me hungry.  A shame to recall a whole year's production because of a few bad cattle.  If better records were kept -- GNU/Linux! -- that should be avoidable.Feb 19 09:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open-Access paradigm spreads quickly http://t.co/UBRxjDigwI http://t.co/5OmKAehFqh #openaccessFeb 19 09:30
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msb_A propos bears -- amazing (only 2 minutes long) -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6WWyxK_OaUFeb 19 09:37
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Sosumihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/davinhb/sets/72157639874040194/Feb 19 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.flickr.com | Macternity - a set on Flickr [ http://ur1.ca/gnkmx ]Feb 19 11:03
Sosumino comment on the amount of stupidity just witnessed by meFeb 19 11:04
MinceRpatheticFeb 19 11:05
Sosumieven worse, kill it fire before it reproducesFeb 19 11:05
Sosumi*withFeb 19 11:06
MinceRindeedFeb 19 11:07
MinceRthough that would not be sufficient to stop the idiocracyFeb 19 11:07
Sosumitim sculley will be enoughFeb 19 11:24
Sosumihis incompetence is so big that the shipping dates of the trashcan have already slided two or three timeFeb 19 11:25
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SosumiDrPizza the stalkerFeb 19 12:15
Sosumihttp://notreligious.typepad.com/.a/6a00e552e3404e88330133f58100e3970b-450wiFeb 19 12:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zippydazipster/status/436093028332081152Feb 19 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zippydazipster: @schestowitz where do they store the prints and how long till NSA takes the whole lot?Feb 19 12:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NSA/PRISM on Steroids: Microsoft Lync http://t.co/HdBNYJE76K #skype #lync #microsoft #nsa #prismFeb 19 12:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Age of Microsoft-Funded Misinformation About Android/Google/Chrome OS/Linux http://t.co/JGdVGGwrbG #microsoft #googleFeb 19 12:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Nadella is Not in Charge of Microsoft, the Big Criminals Are Still in Charge http://t.co/8zl3gvRFv3 #microsoft #billgatesFeb 19 12:57
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msb_Sosumi: Please excuse my ignorance.  Is the thing that gay guy is making love to in the "Macternity" pix a Mac Pro 2013?  Where do the hard drives go?   This article doesn't say:  http://www.anandtech.com/show/7603/mac-pro-review-late-2013  Has anyone figured out the cost of a conventional AMD/Intel CPU desktop tower with the same capabilities?Feb 19 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | The Mac Pro Review (Late 2013) [ http://ur1.ca/gnmd7 ]Feb 19 13:07
msb_...running Linux, of course.Feb 19 13:07
SosumisimpleFeb 19 13:07
Sosumicustom built or a nice hp z820 will cost around the sameFeb 19 13:08
MinceRbut will have better capabilities :>Feb 19 13:08
Sosumibe more powerful, upgradeable and not crippled by poor heat dissipationFeb 19 13:09
Sosumialso the buttplug pro externalizes hdds through thunderboltFeb 19 13:09
MinceRlolFeb 19 13:09
MinceRthey couldn't even fit hdds in thereFeb 19 13:09
Sosumithe internal drive is a single pcie ssdFeb 19 13:09
msb_Has anyone remarked that Apple has finally succeeded in polishing a turd?Feb 19 13:10
Sosumion that anandtech review you can see that the trashcan pro failed the stress test as well going above the rated psu wattageFeb 19 13:11
SosumilolFeb 19 13:12
msb_I guess the DVD drive has to go somewhere else too.  Sorry I hadn't read to the end of the Anand article.  It does give a nice DIY comparison.Feb 19 13:24
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msb_I'm trying to think of what anyone could use all that power for on a desktop, and all I come up with is games and video editing (and transcoding).  Neither of which I'm very interested in at the moment.  I guess I'll just keep my 5 year old AMD dual core DIY machine with 8GB RAM, if I can make it stop crashing once a week with error messages pointing to the Nvidia graphics.  Maybe a new graphic card will fix it.  The old one only cost Feb 19 13:32
msb_$150 five years ago.Feb 19 13:32
msb_I'm trying to keep Firefox CPU usage below 40%.  There seems to be some correlation between that and the crashes.  Which most of the time just kill the KDE3 session.Feb 19 13:34
msb_I'm a Firefox abuser.  3 or 4 windows with a dozen or two tabs in each.  Sometimes much more.  Poor thing goes crazy patrolling all those tabs.Feb 19 13:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436132438985957376  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436123952801677312Feb 19 13:38
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msb_Being low power, by today's standards, its fans are pretty quiet, and it sits on the desk a foot from me, with HDDs and DVD drive.Feb 19 13:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436134335138521088 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436137029899145216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436137182815068160Feb 19 13:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Red Hat News: Hortonworks, Server, and Fedora http://t.co/74PLxziA0Q #redhat #fedora #horton #gnu #linux #cephFeb 19 13:57
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Sosumiby everything that holy and unholyFeb 19 14:33
Sosumidon't buy the trashcan proFeb 19 14:33
Sosumithere is no consideringFeb 19 14:33
Sosumiany pc similarly speced will mop the floor with that thingFeb 19 14:35
Sosumieven a maxed 2009 and 2010 mac pro will do that tooFeb 19 14:35
MinceRalso, don't buy apple productsFeb 19 14:35
Sosumithe gtx titan black is coming soonFeb 19 14:36
Sosumiand you can put two of those in the old mac proFeb 19 14:36
Sosumiso the trashcan with its 2 years old gpu is obsolete even before it starts being distributed normallyFeb 19 14:37
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Sosumiand did I forget to mention that crapple's opencl implementation is short of what it could be?Feb 19 17:12
Sosumisimply because they fail to implement vendor specific instructionsFeb 19 17:13
Sosumior even work with the vendor to have them implementedFeb 19 17:14
MinceR:)Feb 19 17:14
Sosumiso in short, you end up with up to 20% performance penalty on OSXFeb 19 17:14
Sosumiwhen compared to both gnu/linux and windowsFeb 19 17:14
Sosumieven windows, of which everyone lambasts performs better than osxFeb 19 17:15
Sosumiactually I think that the osx golden years was up until XP's service pack 2Feb 19 17:16
Sosumiafter m$ duct taped some aspects of xpFeb 19 17:17
Sosumilike browsing the net? here's a fly, a virus and a jehova's witnessFeb 19 17:18
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Sosumiand I think they'll probably go into that realm of expensive looking stuffFeb 19 17:26
Sosumialongside brands like bang & ollufsenFeb 19 17:26
Sosumiwhich sell overpriced stuffFeb 19 17:26
Sosumithat you can get better elsewhereFeb 19 17:26
Sosumisame could be said about loweFeb 19 17:26
Sosumiand all you pay is the designFeb 19 17:27
Sosumiand brandFeb 19 17:27
Sosumiwhen probably some discount samsung tv will probably have much better picture quality and overall perform betterFeb 19 17:27
Sosumior some dynaudio or jbl sounding better than the b&o speaker linesFeb 19 17:29
Sosumibut since I'm not interested in those things I really can't sayFeb 19 17:30
Sosumiall I have in fact is a pair of sennheiser h650 headphones with a handmade amplifier and dacFeb 19 17:31
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 19 18:21
DaemonFCI noticed that using bittorrent causes my Comcast cable internet connection to completely reset, hang my web browser, cause my instant messenger accounts to disconnect, and knocks me off of my Internet Relay Chat connections.Feb 19 18:21
DaemonFCI don't know if Comcast is doing it on purpose or if their modem firmware is just garbage. With Comcast, you never know why your expensive broadband connection is as stable as a troubled child on crack.Feb 19 18:21
DaemonFCIf you call Comcast customer support it's like something off of one of those Foamy The Squirrel cartoons, and then they try to tack an additional $60 onto your bill whether they fixed it or not, and no matter what was actually causing the problem. Feb 19 18:21
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Sosumiis comcast dsl?Feb 19 19:07
Sosumior cableFeb 19 19:07
Sosumiin case of it being dsl, he could just buy a dsl modem or gateway and fix the issueFeb 19 19:08
SosumiI've never use operator supplied equipment just because of thatFeb 19 19:08
Sosumi*usedFeb 19 19:08
Sosumiunless ofc, they are actually censuring the trafficFeb 19 19:09
Sosumiand apparently ppl are talking ill of meFeb 19 20:05
*Sosumi hears are on fireFeb 19 20:05
Sosumiher derp, *earFeb 19 20:06
msb_DaemonFC: Are you running Linux?Feb 19 20:53
Sosumihttp://fairewinds.org/uncategorized/csi-fukushimaFeb 19 20:56
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Sosumimore on unit 3Feb 19 20:57
SosumiDaemonFC is an ardent mac loverFeb 19 21:00
DaemonFCSysinfo for 'localhost.localdomain': Running inside KDE 4.12.2 on Fedora 20 (Heisenbug) powered by Linux 3.13.3-201.fc20.x86_64, CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor at 800-3000/3000 MHz, RAM: 2877/7984 MB, Storage: 817/1818 GB, 178 procs, 3.42h upFeb 19 21:00
Sosumi:PFeb 19 21:00
MinceR"no u" would have sufficed, imo :>Feb 19 21:00
DaemonFCTrying to get Debian to make a decision is like asking for a group of those Ents from The Lord of the Rings to decide something.Feb 19 21:04
DaemonFCSeveral hours later, as the orcs and Saruman continue burning down the forest..... "We have decided.....that you are not orcs.". Feb 19 21:04
MinceRit's better to make a good decision slowly than to make a bad one quicklyFeb 19 21:05
MinceRthen again, i'm not sure if they'll make the right decisionFeb 19 21:05
MinceRthey could at least wait until systemd developers mature until they don't dismiss portability, modularity and inputFeb 19 21:06
Sosumidesign a neural network, teach itFeb 19 21:06
Sosumiand then have it make the decision for youFeb 19 21:06
Sosumimuch more reliable than Ent "patience" and probably not bound by biasesFeb 19 21:07
gde33I found how to run ubuntu as an application under windows sort of http://synergy-foss.org/ :)Feb 19 21:09
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gde33it's a wonderful thingFeb 19 21:09
MinceRthat was probably more of slow thought processes and slow communication than "patience"Feb 19 21:09
MinceRgde33: x2x and x2vnc are also useful :>Feb 19 21:09
Sosumiit depends, I thought that even in 2005 you had enough power to simulate portions or models after the human brainFeb 19 21:11
Sosumifaster than the neuron firing in the human brainFeb 19 21:11
MinceRents were portrayed as living more slowly than humansFeb 19 21:12
Sosumithey also lived longer :)Feb 19 21:12
MinceRindeedFeb 19 21:12
gde33you need to ask Gandalf basicallyFeb 19 21:12
MinceRbut so did elves, and they weren't slow :>Feb 19 21:12
Sosumithat makes me think on how pigeons perceive timeFeb 19 21:13
Sosumialways moving so fastFeb 19 21:13
MinceRthink of fliesFeb 19 21:13
Sosumiis for them a day something like 2 weeks?Feb 19 21:13
MinceRdunnoFeb 19 21:14
gde33I was just thinking how bacteria are able to figure things out but they cherish every idea because it takes so much effortFeb 19 21:14
MinceRbacteria don't even thinkFeb 19 21:14
gde33oh but they doFeb 19 21:14
MinceRthey just reproduce very quickly, which also allows them to evolve and adapt very quicklyFeb 19 21:14
gde33just as much as all the other creaturesFeb 19 21:14
Sosumibacteria think?Feb 19 21:15
gde33absolutlyFeb 19 21:15
SosumiI thought they just "survived"Feb 19 21:15
gde33there is also a lot of interspecies communication going on, chemicallyFeb 19 21:15
Sosumiwell ofcFeb 19 21:15
Sosumieven carrots have feelingsFeb 19 21:15
gde33fungi are briliantFeb 19 21:15
gde33take ants, look how advanced they are.Feb 19 21:16
gde33the fugi will do this to the ant http://www.endalldisease.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Ant-Mushroom-Head-EndAllDisease.jpgFeb 19 21:16
gde33grow a dedicated mushroom out of it's headFeb 19 21:16
Sosuminot badFeb 19 21:17
gde33really pwndFeb 19 21:17
gde33when 2 species interact one should wonder who has the pants onFeb 19 21:18
gde33did you ever see a pot smoker standing next to a weed plant?Feb 19 21:18
gde33hahahaFeb 19 21:18
gde33who is in charge?Feb 19 21:18
Sosumithe lil plantFeb 19 21:18
gde33I've smoked enough to be very exited by seeing the plantFeb 19 21:19
gde33it is almost like seeing a pretty womanFeb 19 21:19
Sosumigde33, are you biologist?Feb 19 21:19
SosumilolFeb 19 21:19
Sosumistay out of drugsFeb 19 21:19
Sosumithose things will only kill you in the long termFeb 19 21:19
gde33that is your natural response to the penomenonFeb 19 21:19
gde33dont do it!Feb 19 21:20
gde33you instinctively know about the covert opsFeb 19 21:20
gde33people are going to die anyway lolFeb 19 21:20
gde33the plant is supper old, we are the new speciesFeb 19 21:21
Sosumisome areFeb 19 21:21
Sosumibut at each day that passes folks are finding new ways to prevent and reverse agingFeb 19 21:22
gde33we can evolve better if we extend it a lotFeb 19 21:22
Sosumiand I actually think that the chalange for this century will certainly be the conquering of deathFeb 19 21:23
Sosumias well the birthing of AIFeb 19 21:23
SosumiI actually think both will have to come togetherFeb 19 21:23
gde33sure, it will no doubt be something modest like that.Feb 19 21:23
Sosumidue to the inability of the human to correlate vast amounts of informationFeb 19 21:24
gde33we have lots of things that are still to scary culturallyFeb 19 21:24
Sosumicompared to the portuguese maritime discoveries or the challenge to go the moonFeb 19 21:24
gde33we know that people remember previous lives and that their memories check outFeb 19 21:25
Sosumiit actually seems like a modest goalFeb 19 21:25
gde33dont think we are going to investigate that any time soonFeb 19 21:25
Sosumiprevious lives?Feb 19 21:25
gde33yes, people are able to tap into memories from dead peopleFeb 19 21:25
SosumiI've heard that some memories may be passed geneticallyFeb 19 21:25
gde33we know that in some cases the skull shape matches closely but the research field is largely anecdotalFeb 19 21:26
gde33imagine the skull like a radio dish pointing down :DFeb 19 21:27
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gde33we have lots of idiotic research that is just to hard to believeFeb 19 21:27
gde33things that sound crazy enough not to bother with themFeb 19 21:28
gde33like why do we have a hypnosis mode?Feb 19 21:28
gde33it makes no sense at all to have thatFeb 19 21:29
gde33or experimenter expectation?Feb 19 21:31
msb_Sosumi: What you call "drugs" -- psychedelics like cannabis at least -- are medicinal plants in our environment which can be very beneficial.Feb 19 21:31
gde33wtf is that?Feb 19 21:31
gde33I forgot about that part, how the plant, after taking over the human, starts purging other invadersFeb 19 21:32
gde33like, hey this is my human!Feb 19 21:32
msb_We live in a very anti-human culture that programs us with domination, male-supremacy, greed, etc.  Psychedelics can free up our minds so we can change our programming.  Open Source!Feb 19 21:33
Sosumiho yes those evil malesFeb 19 21:34
gde33wimmen can be even worse when they go thereFeb 19 21:34
msb_No one should dominate anyone else.Feb 19 21:35
SosumiI usually prefer the balanced approachFeb 19 21:35
msb_Our pineal glands make DMT.Feb 19 21:35
Sosumithere are somethings guys do better while there's other stuff that girls are better atFeb 19 21:36
Sosumicertainly you wouldn't leave a women carrying all the shoppings by herself?Feb 19 21:36
Sosuminor slicing lumberFeb 19 21:37
Sosumiand that pineal blab, DMT etcFeb 19 21:37
Sosumijust don't listen to david ikeFeb 19 21:37
Sosuminor to alex jonesFeb 19 21:37
Sosumithere's no green lizard out thereFeb 19 21:38
SosumiI'm actually surprised that icecrawler hasn't jumped in yetFeb 19 21:38
msb_Sosumi: In the long run your corporate info sources will not serve you well.Feb 19 21:38
Sosumiall media is propagandaFeb 19 21:40
Sosumiyou just need to sort out the trashFeb 19 21:40
Sosumikind of when recyclingFeb 19 21:40
msb_Sosumi: For critical thinking you must examine your own mind to find where your beliefs come from, and then explore many sources of information, compare them with your current model of reality, and employ the law of non-contradiction to determine the truth.Feb 19 21:40
Sosumiand now you're sounding like a "new age" teleevangelistFeb 19 21:41
Sosumiif you want truthFeb 19 21:42
Sosumilearn mathFeb 19 21:42
msb_Sosumi: you're sounding like a put-down artistFeb 19 21:42
gde33replace critical thinking with objectivityFeb 19 21:42
Sosuminumbers never lieFeb 19 21:42
gde33true but you can still do the wrong results with numbers Feb 19 21:43
msb_gde33: critical thinking and objectivity are one and the same.  One must think objectively about one's own mind, beliefs, and model of reality.Feb 19 21:43
gde33critical thinking tries to have reality live up to expectationsFeb 19 21:43
gde33it wants an answer more desperatelyFeb 19 21:43
msb_No.  Critical thinking seeks objective truth.Feb 19 21:43
gde33for you perhaps, it is not what I see in people who gather arround the termFeb 19 21:44
msb_Critical thinking = accurate thinking.Feb 19 21:44
gde33it seems more like : proof or it didn't happenFeb 19 21:44
gde33objectivity is more agnostic :PFeb 19 21:45
msb_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinkingFeb 19 21:45
gde33endless doubtingFeb 19 21:45
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gde33'Critical thinking is a tool by which one can come about reasoned conclusions'Feb 19 21:46
msb_Yes.  _Accurate_ reasoned conclusions.Feb 19 21:47
gde33https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_(philosophy)Feb 19 21:47
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gde33A proposition is generally considered objectively true (to have objective truth) when its truth conditions are met and are "mind-independent"—that is, existing freely or independently from a mind (from the thoughts, feelings, ideas, etc. of a sentient subject).Feb 19 21:47
gde33it doesn't account for experience basicallyFeb 19 21:48
gde33Like say god would land his saucer in your garden.Feb 19 21:49
msb_Experiencing isn't reasoning, but experience can give us information that we can reason about.Feb 19 21:49
gde33critical thinking would conclude it cant be himFeb 19 21:49
gde33but that isn't objective at allFeb 19 21:50
gde33it isnt' irrational, it is just to unlikely to even consider it being god himselfFeb 19 21:51
gde33tooFeb 19 21:51
msb_"god" is not a well-defined term.Feb 19 21:51
msb_There's no evidence for the existence of the JCI "god".Feb 19 21:52
gde33sure, but in the thought experiment he is really there :DFeb 19 21:53
msb_And the myth describes Jehovah as a genocidal psychopath.  Not what you'd want for a god.Feb 19 21:53
MinceRgood thing the myth is logically inconsistentFeb 19 21:54
MinceRso you can be sure it's false :>Feb 19 21:54
msb_yepFeb 19 21:54
gde33not at all, it just looks very much like it isFeb 19 21:54
gde33it may look enough like a fish to consider it a fish with great accuracyFeb 19 21:55
gde33like Louis Pasteur's weird ideasFeb 19 21:56
msb_Which were?Feb 19 21:57
gde33tiny creatures that eat youFeb 19 21:57
gde33surgeons should wash their hands between opperationsFeb 19 21:57
gde33correction, Ignaz Semmelweis proposed doctors wash their hands in the year 1847Feb 19 21:58
gde33The theory of diseases was highly influenced by ideas of an imbalance of the basic "four humours" in the body, a theory known as dyscrasia, for which the main treatment was bloodlettings. Feb 19 21:59
gde33before thatFeb 19 22:00
gde33http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HumorismFeb 19 22:00
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MinceRhumorists practice thisFeb 19 22:00
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DaemonFCPosted this on the governor's facebook wall.Feb 19 22:01
gde33hahaFeb 19 22:01
gde33the chinese give the social support to corporationsFeb 19 22:04
gde33facinating conceptFeb 19 22:04
MinceRapparently so does the usaFeb 19 22:06
MinceR"corporations are people, my friend"Feb 19 22:07
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icecrawlerjust finished packaging firefox for centos, that mother fucker is still takes foreverFeb 20 00:31
msb_icecrawler: Hi!  Does it have to be packaged?  I just get it from the website and run it out of my account.Feb 20 00:37
msb_It upgrades itself there, too.Feb 20 00:37
msb_updatesFeb 20 00:37
DaemonFChttp://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/46240800.jpgFeb 20 01:40
DaemonFCAnother one I'm gonna post to our governor's wall.Feb 20 01:40
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icecrawlermsb_ im the guy who does all that work for youFeb 20 02:08
icecrawlersoftware doesn't package itselfFeb 20 02:09
msb_Well, I use OpenSuse, not Centos, but I know.  However, I get Firefox from its website, not the Suse repo.Feb 20 02:10
DaemonFCWhy compile Firefox for CentOS?Feb 20 02:14
DaemonFCMozilla builds the official binaries on CentOS.Feb 20 02:14
icecrawlerso it takes advantage of system libsFeb 20 02:14
DaemonFCIt stands to reason they'll work fine.Feb 20 02:14
icecrawlerthey just use our packages actuallyFeb 20 02:14
DaemonFCWell, if you want to use system libs, you might as well use GCC options to harden the binaries.Feb 20 02:15
DaemonFC:)Feb 20 02:15
DaemonFCDoes CentOS have a GCC that can protect against format string exploits?Feb 20 02:16
icecrawleryesFeb 20 02:16
DaemonFChttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FormatSecurityFeb 20 02:17
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icecrawlerin centos7Feb 20 02:17
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icecrawlerjono, ubuntu is going down mother fuckerFeb 20 02:21
icecrawlercentos is gonna burry debianFeb 20 02:22
icecrawlerredhat will pwn Mark ShuttlecockFeb 20 02:22
icecrawlerfor a GNU dawn!Feb 20 02:22
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Sosumigtx titan black working on osx after a couple hours from being releasedFeb 20 10:40
Sosumitrashcan pro beaten againFeb 20 10:40
Sosumiho no, according to the crapple evangelistsFeb 20 10:40
Sosumipros use underclocked versions of cards released two years agoFeb 20 10:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Homeland Security wants to be the NSA of car snooping http://t.co/WP7vodLjgr cars: another tracking device, sometimes with microphonesFeb 20 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> theweek.com | Homeland Security wants to be the NSA of car snooping - The WeekFeb 20 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #nsa says it's an octopus that wants to spy on us from space http://t.co/AO33lGz6nn extra-terrestrial empireFeb 20 12:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Julian #Assange on Being Placed on NSA "Manhunting" List and Secret Targeting of #WikiLeaks Supporters http://t.co/lgpvVLTdqy videoFeb 20 12:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436470683388764160  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436469990074884096  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436469314171191296  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436468712968040448Feb 20 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #NSA Didn’t Like The Movie "Enemy Of The State" http://t.co/LxrAZyA67X not a bad movie, seen it weeks agoFeb 20 12:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 'I think it took Americans a long time to realize how upset German public is' http://t.co/XI0u4Csuxt #nsa #droNSAFeb 20 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Photography as a revolutionary act in land of the brave http://t.co/wjJBUeakfjFeb 20 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Feinstein would have loved the #stasi http://t.co/vyvHcm6inaFeb 20 12:21
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436468231784906753  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436467860966486016  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436467608389709824  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436465592238104576Feb 20 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Snowden...what he described as a government growing so secretive as to imperil American democracy." http://t.co/qNqPHSIcsR videoFeb 20 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: This new satire would be funny and almost believable if it said #NSA had bought #facebook http://t.co/KpGtVcVr8y in a way, it didFeb 20 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: We need to spy on citizens, to "obey" the law (this is how tyrannies work: you MIGHT be a criminal, hence no privacy) http://t.co/udYZP37wrBFeb 20 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA weighs enlarging collection of Americans' phone records: media http://t.co/xW2FZMUvgy ... https://t.co/U4UcWRziwGFeb 20 12:22
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schestowitzhttp://njjewishnews.com/article/21623/we-helped-kill-bad-ideas#.UwX0P47dProFeb 20 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-njjewishnews.com | ‘We helped kill bad ideas’ | NJJN [ http://ur1.ca/gnuvi ]Feb 20 12:26
schestowitzliertally killFeb 20 12:26
schestowitz*literallyFeb 20 12:26
schestowitzmore of the nonsense http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/air-force-pilots-are-learning-to-fly-blind-against-chinese-electromagnetic-strikesFeb 20 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | Air Force Pilots Are Learning to Fly Blind Against Chinese Electromagnetic Strikes | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/gnuvo ]Feb 20 12:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477338986225664  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477622948986880  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477808010067968   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477973693485056Feb 20 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Congress Unconscionably Silent on Obama's Constitutional Crimes http://t.co/upxVOayeAS #drones #droNSA #obamaFeb 20 12:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why is the world turning a blind eye to US drone http://t.co/O6ZD02crUq ... https://t.co/UNZhsy3dHCFeb 20 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pakistantoday.com.pk | Why is the world turning a blind eye to US drone strikes? | Pakistan TodayFeb 20 12:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Report: Yemen drone strike possibly violated international law http://t.co/Ia8OLG2DDU "possibly"?!Feb 20 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> america.aljazeera.com | Report: Yemen drone strike possibly violated international law | Al Jazeera AmericaFeb 20 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Stewart Blasts Obama on Drones: He’s the ‘All-Time Leader in Outside Battlefield Sky-Killing!’ http://t.co/04LiXqjH1l peace prize?!Feb 20 12:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436479436259880960  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436480784808280064  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436481355330117632Feb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #droNSA lie http://t.co/ySj7wVmCwS http://t.co/RMBm2KTZEE http://t.co/N8oAMRyzE8 http://t.co/MoEapppHPtFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hrw.org | US: Yemen Drone Strike May Violate Obama Policy | Human Rights WatchFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.todayszaman.com | New report contradicts US version of deadly drone strike - Today's Zaman, your gateway to Turkish daily newsFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> english.alarabiya.net | HRW urges U.S. to probe deadly drone strike in Yemen - Al Arabiya NewsFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.yahoo.com | Report: US drone may have killed dozen civilians - Yahoo NewsFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: UK shared ops room where drone targets were identified – Yemen president http://t.co/6PtghoDhbg #gchq #droNSA #assassinationFeb 20 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "UK, Germany, Australia, and other NATO partners support US drone strikes through intelligence-sharing." http://t.co/48VNMkQbDRFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalresearch.ca | Complaint Filed at International Criminal Court Over NATO Allies’ Complicity in US Drone Strikes | Global ResearchFeb 20 12:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436483198261149696   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436483651560542208   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436484105006755840    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436484384745848832Feb 20 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is the CIA Messing With Venezuela? http://t.co/QqKOuUPccl "Democracy and covert machinations on the scale we see today are incompatible."Feb 20 12:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Former #cia analyst cannot stage silent protest against CIA http://t.co/Hnsbw2BXxwFeb 20 12:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Snowden: Over-classification leads to decline of democracy http://t.co/315eAFJ32X secret society breeds distrust, rogue behaviourFeb 20 12:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It is not impossible that Venezuela protests are grassroots, but due to past coup attempts by CIA one cannot know for sure. Loss of truth.Feb 20 12:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436488627145961472Feb 20 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday News: The Descent to #Totality http://t.co/xF8XskdLnW so now even silent protest is illegalFeb 20 13:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436488932961054720Feb 20 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: We are probably not far away from the point of jail time for merely reading a book or a Web page in the UK and US (maybe central EU also)Feb 20 13:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436489346464886784Feb 20 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In #facebook politicians and Western armies can openly call for assassination of people; but for us mere people even #activism means FB ban.Feb 20 13:15
gde33lolFeb 20 13:21
gde33I would totally confess to reading a book and demand the highest possible penalty for it, 1000 years solitary wouldn't be enough, I would NEVER learn.Feb 20 13:22
gde33But I wouldn't be against all censorship.Feb 20 13:25
msb_This article -- Is the CIA Messing With Venezuela? -- is slanted in two ways.  First, it takes as perfectly OK the idea that California, Texas and Florida will soon be controlled by foreign nationals -- illegal aliens from Mexico (and I guess Cuba).  Feb 20 13:44
msb_Second -- "the uber-rich “military industrial complex” behind the GOP agenda is abandoning the ballot box as the way they intend to rule going forward".  Obama has also abandoned the ballot boxes that elected Congress, and said he will enact whatever legislation he wants via executive orders.Feb 20 13:46
msb_Not that I favor either side of the OBPP -- One Big Property Party.Feb 20 13:47
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msb_Here's a good article to counter that previous "plucky little ally" one about Israel.  However, some of the comments on this one are atrocious.  http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/02/17/351047/zionists-celebrate-occupation-of-usa-americans-protest/Feb 20 14:00
msb_Where's the bot?  Looks like it's not running.Feb 20 14:00
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msbHere's a nice map of Europe showing the location of Ukraine:  http://www.feriasalimentarias.com/worldfood-ukraine/ukraine.gifFeb 20 16:41
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Sosumithe EU just imposed sanctions on ukraineFeb 20 17:31
SosumiI wander if they are that dumb to impose "economical warfare" (because that is what sanctions mean)Feb 20 17:32
Sosumion a distressed countryFeb 20 17:32
Sosumiimpose, no, Feb 20 17:33
Sosumiactually, declare economical warfareFeb 20 17:33
Guest63015https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3667498  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3667936  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668023Feb 20 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Verizon Makes the Death of #NetNeutrality in the US More Official http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/war-on-publishers/ #verizon #internetFeb 20 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Samsung Capitulates to Rights Violations Amid Undermined Federal Laws and Obligatory Kill Switches http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/samsung-oppression/Feb 20 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: No Need for #Microsoft Inside GNU/Linux, Demand for Microsoft/Windows is Diminishing http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/steam-os-and-trends/Feb 20 17:44
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Guest63015https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668057  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668172  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668295Feb 20 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Free Software News Roundup: Careers, Liberations, and Lots More http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/careers-liberation-with-foss/ #freesw #opensourceFeb 20 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Anti-’Terror’ Squads for the War on SharingFeb 20 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Security News: Education, DDoS, Linksys, SpamAssassin Release… http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/security-news-2014/Feb 20 17:44
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Guest63015https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668321Feb 20 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/63481Feb 20 17:44
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Sosumialso if you buy Lacie HDDsFeb 20 18:06
Sosumiwell don'tFeb 20 18:07
Sosumithey just introduced new modelsFeb 20 18:07
Sosumiall featuring Seagate insidesFeb 20 18:07
Sosumiso they went from hitachi deskstars/ultrastars to SeagateFeb 20 18:08
SosumilawlFeb 20 18:08
msbCRG article says Ukraine rebels are fascists: http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-and-the-rebirth-of-fascism-in-europe/5366852Feb 20 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Ukraine and the Rebirth of Fascism in Europe | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gnxfp ]Feb 20 18:27
schestowitz__msb: many areFeb 20 18:28
schestowitz__I used to think it was just BBC et al. spinning rebellion as NaziFeb 20 18:29
schestowitz__But people from there mostly say the same -- that it's quite out of handFeb 20 18:29
schestowitz__!google leak us fuck europe ukraineFeb 20 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26079957Feb 20 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - "F**k The EU" - US State Department Blasts Europe; Revealed As ... | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-06/fuck-eu-us-state-department-blasts-europe-revealed-alleged-mastermind-behind-ukraineFeb 20 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - US official apologises to EU counterparts for undiplomatic language ... | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/06/us-ukraine-russia-eu-victoria-nulandFeb 20 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU ... | http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/07/us-usa-ukraine-tape-idUSBREA1601G20140207Feb 20 18:29
msbschestowitz__: I've found CRG to be a reliable source for "alternative" politcal news.Feb 20 18:30
msb...i.e., not govt/corporate propagandaFeb 20 18:30
schestowitz__it's mostly good, hence demonisedFeb 20 18:31
schestowitz__See the wikipedia pages about the site and its founderFeb 20 18:31
schestowitz__hack jobs... designed merely to discreditFeb 20 18:32
schestowitz__nd watch where most of the complaints come fromFeb 20 18:32
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3666732Feb 20 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #OpenDaylight : O...Feb 20 18:35
schestowitz__""Even Microsoft, yes Microsoft, is getting it. When I spoke recently with .."|Feb 20 18:35
msbCRG's Michel Chossudovsky is a 9-11 "truther".  (like me)Feb 20 18:36
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3666231Feb 20 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "law in place tha...Feb 20 18:37
schestowitz__"Good. The person who wrote this article sounds like a tobacco PR flack when talking about "personal decisions" and other BS. People are fined for not having a proper seat for their kids. I'd like them to be fined every time they blow smoke on other people. I don't even like being stuck behind a smoker as I drive - it makes me feel sick. Being stuck inside that car as a kid, from what a friend tells me, is miserable and the worst of Feb 20 18:37
schestowitz__the second hand smoke. Every kid will be happy that they get a small break from that."Feb 20 18:37
schestowitz__msb: nopeFeb 20 18:37
schestowitz__he's described as suchFeb 20 18:37
schestowitz__because of people who write in his siteFeb 20 18:37
schestowitz__he -- asaik like me-- thinks there were lapses in intel and responseFeb 20 18:37
schestowitz__i don't think he actually wrote himself about some of the claims people make about the tower's collapse, unless you can prove otherwiseFeb 20 18:38
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667067Feb 20 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | 'I think it took ...Feb 20 18:38
schestowitz__"I don't think most people have a clue."Feb 20 18:38
schestowitz__bFeb 20 18:38
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667184Feb 20 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "UK, Germany, Aus...Feb 20 18:38
schestowitz__sick"77Feb 20 18:38
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667090Feb 20 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | The #NSA Didn’t L...Feb 20 18:39
schestowitz__They might actually like that propaganda drivelthat is person of interest (equating privacy with secrecy)."77"Feb 20 18:39
msb"criticized Chussodovsky's thesis and views — namely: that the U.S. had knowledge of the September 11 attacks before they happened;" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_ChossudovskyFeb 20 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Michel Chossudovsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/glew9 ]Feb 20 18:39
schestowitz__There is a new Costner film coming, it will manufacture  consent for assassinations, like those of DroNSAFeb 20 18:39
schestowitz__"|I wonder how they liked the TV show person of interest. Although they weren't mentioned literally."Feb 20 18:39
schestowitz__msb: different from your viewsFeb 20 18:40
schestowitz__there's an attempt to lump all 9/11 analysis critics wth laser shit and aliens and whatnotFeb 20 18:41
schestowitz__to say that the US claimed the towers had fallen before they did it separate from claiming these got demolished by US govFeb 20 18:41
msbMy 9/11 analysis has nothing to do with  "laser shit and aliens and whatnot".Feb 20 18:42
schestowitz__But you're lumped together with a loaded viewFeb 20 18:42
schestowitz__And the whole drama which is "Bush getting told at a school of what had just happened"Feb 20 18:43
schestowitz__It's like a movie plotFeb 20 18:43
msbIn fact, I show how the gang that says that stuff are running a COINTELPRO operation against the real 911 researchers.Feb 20 18:43
schestowitz__But that doesn't mean it actually was a prepared plotFeb 20 18:43
schestowitz__these people are "dangerous"Feb 20 18:43
schestowitz__They are critical of the govFeb 20 18:43
schestowitz__and many are US-basedFeb 20 18:44
msbhttp://cosmicpenguin.com/911/disinfo.htmlFeb 20 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The No-WTC-Planes/Video-Fakery/Energy-Beams Disinformation Gang [ http://ur1.ca/gnxmb ]Feb 20 18:44
schestowitz__so they are basically dangerous to Power even it they're wrong Feb 20 18:44
msbhttp://cosmicpenguin.com/911/Feb 20 18:44
schestowitz__1google congress us nine percent\Feb 20 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli GovernmentsFeb 20 18:44
schestowitz__!google congress us nine percentFeb 20 18:44
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Congressional Approval Sinks to Record Low: 9% - Gallup.Com | http://www.gallup.com/poll/165809/congressional-approval-sinks-record-low.aspxFeb 20 18:44
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The 9%: Congress's Approval Rating Hits the Single Digits | TIME.com | http://swampland.time.com/2013/11/12/the-9-congress-approval-rating-hits-the-single-digits/Feb 20 18:44
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Congressional Performance - Rasmussen Reports™ | http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_performanceFeb 20 18:44
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Congressional approval at all-time low of 9%, according to new CBS ... | http://www.cbsnews.com/news/congressional-approval-at-all-time-low-of-9-according-to-new-cbs-news-new-york-times-poll/Feb 20 18:44
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667333Feb 20 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | We are probably n...Feb 20 18:45
msbRead my main 911 page.  It explains what happened in simple terms with implanted conventional explosives.Feb 20 18:45
schestowitz__"Brazil has glimpses on that http://is.gd/1KlrAV "Feb 20 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-is.gd | is.gd - Shortened URLFeb 20 18:45
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667498Feb 20 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Verizon Makes the...Feb 20 18:45
schestowitz__"This is not the first time Netflix has been extorted by ISPs, but it is depressing they must pay again. Comcast successfully demanded money from them to avoid interference previously. Like all extortion, it never ends and ISPs "manage" traffic from Netflix. My own upload is also crippled. How disgusting. Because my ISP is dishonest, I pay them as little as I can."Feb 20 18:45
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667498Feb 20 18:45
schestowitz__"We should really get independent from ISPs; There's no need for them, the internet would work nicely without them and even better."Feb 20 18:45
msbI can't help people "lumping me together" with those I totally disagree with, publicly.Feb 20 18:46
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/conversations?conversation_id=43178Feb 20 18:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Diaspora* / Sign in [ http://ur1.ca/4c80w ]Feb 20 18:46
schestowitz__"Hi, I read a post by you some while ago about secure browsing, where you said that startpage.com and duckduckgo.com are not as secured as they were. I forgot what you proposed instead of them. Can you please please tell me what it was, I can't find that post, it's been some while since then :("Feb 20 18:46
msbMost people don't know how to think accurately.Feb 20 18:46
schestowitz__I still haven't found a substitute for inquick.Feb 20 18:46
schestowitz__ixquickFeb 20 18:47
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436563467815092224  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436563942035709952  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436564073283858432  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436565287471972352Feb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Hardware freedom day is weeks away http://t.co/KSDThPD90xFeb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hfday.org | Hardware Freedom Day - HomeFeb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "The Maduro administration has responded by cracking down on what it claims as being foreign interference online." https://t.co/ALs36GljU1Feb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org | Venezuela's Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout | Electronic Frontier FoundationFeb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #openbsd fund-raising close to the goal http://t.co/Fx333XpQw7Feb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openbsdfoundation.org | The OpenBSD Foundation 2014 Fundraising CampaignFeb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Steam's Linux game count explodes in one year, big publishers still absent http://t.co/TBIyFhOx2o #steam #gnu #linuxFeb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | Steam's Linux game count explodes in one year, big publishers still absent | PCWorldFeb 20 18:48
msbschestowitz__: Whom are you quoting?  "Hi, I read a post by you some while ago about secure browsing..."Feb 20 18:49
schestowitz__someone from D*Feb 20 18:56
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schestowitz__http://uncrunched.com/2014/02/19/fail-fail-win-never-give-up/Feb 20 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uncrunched.com | Fail Fail Win: Never Give Up | Uncrunched [ http://ur1.ca/gnxu0 ]Feb 20 19:10
schestowitz__"Maduro's fighting a tough battle against the CIA"Feb 20 19:10
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668463Feb 20 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "The Maduro admin...Feb 20 19:10
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668647  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668663  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668704 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668717Feb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux – The Top 5 Lightweight Distros of 2014 http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/02/linux-the-top-5-lightweight-distros-of-2014/ #gnu #linuxFeb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamerheadlines.com | Linux - The Top 5 Lightweight Distros of 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gnxwu ]Feb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pico scopes now run Linux http://www.newelectronics.co.uk/electronics-news/pico-scopes-now-run-linux/59659/ #pico #linuxFeb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newelectronics.co.uk | Pico scopes now run Linux [ http://ur1.ca/gnxwv ]Feb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Embedded World: Silica dev boards run Linux http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/design/embedded-systems/embedded-world-silica-dev-boards-run-linux-2014-02/ #silica #linux #embeddedFeb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.electronicsweekly.com | Electronics Weekly News | Embedded Systems | Embedded World: Silica dev boards run Linux [ http://ur1.ca/gnxww ]Feb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Will Chrome OS and Android dominate the 2014 Linux desktop? http://www.ciol.com/ciol/news/209348/will-chrome-os-android-dominate-2014-linux-desktop #android #chromeos #gnu #linuxFeb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ciol.com | Will Chrome OS and Android dominate the 2014 Linux desktop? - CIOL [ http://ur1.ca/gnxwx ]Feb 20 19:17
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668720Feb 20 19:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Will Chrome OS an...Feb 20 19:33
schestowitz__I think they already do!"77"Feb 20 19:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436584971353202688  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436585279705853952  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436585457410121729  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436585960634318848\Feb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Apple 'snapped up' sapphire displays, says Canonical founder http://t.co/I9BVRvJ1R8 #apple #gnu #linux #ubuntu #greedFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.cnet.com | Apple 'snapped up' sapphire displays, says Canonical founder | Apple - CNET NewsFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux 3.14 File-System HDD Benchmarks http://t.co/cPiNyNHzJ0 #linux #benchmark #kernelFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Linux 3.14 File-System HDD BenchmarksFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Walloon e-government should prefer open source https://t.co/CMHNzfY7sj #egov #freeswFeb 20 19:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Say goodbye free time, Steam for Linux content rises 900% http://t.co/oQC5ZpbUdA #steamos #gnu #linux #gamesFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Say goodbye to free time, Steam for Linux content rises 900% -MuktwareFeb 20 19:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Apple Veteran Named PayPal’s First Head of 'Open' Software http://t.co/iJz0q8y68T she also wrote GPL-hostile licence, helped #billgatesFeb 20 19:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Joyent Partners with #Canonical on Customized Ubuntu as a Cloud Service http://t.co/tf80dRUowp #gnu #linuxFeb 20 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://ostatic.com/page_not_found )Feb 20 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Teachers Romania oblivious about open source https://t.co/YxdhFKmlu1 #romania is quite the story of #microsoft interventionFeb 20 19:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Free, Open #Enea Linux taps Yocto and Linaro code http://t.co/ecWcEm7mJ5 "community-backed Open Enea #Linux platform"Feb 20 19:50
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436587913942671360 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436588093370810368Feb 20 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open source for Flanders' Open Data Platform https://t.co/WHjjMm9iu4 #opendata #sharingFeb 20 19:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Visa, MasterCard start using Android for mobile payments http://t.co/80Znd5khuX #android #linuxFeb 20 19:50
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MinceRholy spam, batmanFeb 20 19:50
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schestowitz__MinceR: links of interest, I thought...Feb 20 19:57
schestowitz__while Toby's bots are awayFeb 20 19:57
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668720Feb 20 20:04
schestowitz__"I hope not!"Feb 20 20:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 1 in 4 in US Unaware the Earth Orbits the Sun http://t.co/rq32O1dAmn "66 percent of European Union residents answered that one correctly."Feb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> newsfeed.time.com | 1 in 4 Americans Think Sun Revolves Around Earth: Study | TIME.comFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Krita will soon be available on Steam http://t.co/JG1yrOnOpC #freesw on #steam - awesome! #kde #gnu #linuxFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Krita will soon be available on Steam - MuktwareFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Possible Summer Improvements To The GCC Compiler http://t.co/I8RrVCWK6I #gcc #gnuFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Possible Summer Improvements To The GCC CompilerFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A Look into the Open Source Hardware Community http://t.co/tvKtrv9Qls #openhardware #freedom #hackingFeb 20 20:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Systemd 209 Is A Massive Release, Readies Kdbus http://t.co/qSzzPFJQ8h #systemd #linux #kdbusFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Systemd 209 Is A Massive Release, Readies KdbusFeb 20 20:22
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436594479165104129 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436594895856607232  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436596035717431296  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436596156354027521Feb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Five Key Features of a Project Designed for Open Collaboration http://t.co/wgvTaw1m5C #freedom #sharing #collaborationFeb 20 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #WhatsApp becomes part of #prism which helps #droNSA decide who to assassinate based on metadata http://t.co/3aisYiHklpFeb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Facebook to buy WhatsApp for 19 billion - MuktwareFeb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: You'll NEVER guess who's building the first Ubuntu phones in 2014 http://t.co/Fi8uaKsAvJ http://t.co/lNu7TVeyIk #ubuntuFeb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | You'll NEVER guess who's building the first Ubuntu phones in 2014 • The RegisterFeb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.jonobacon.org | Today’s Ubuntu News | jonobacon@homeFeb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Muktware becoming like the new The H... KDE is helping an Australian wine maker, time to get drunk http://t.co/470lbwcMyp #kde #gnu #linuxFeb 20 20:23
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schestowitz__"I hope not!"Feb 20 20:25
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668828Feb 20 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Say goodbye free ...Feb 20 20:26
schestowitz__'I don't have a lot of time but it's nice to have choices..."Feb 20 20:26
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668948Feb 20 21:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #WhatsApp becomes...Feb 20 21:19
schestowitz__"All your contacts are belong to US"Feb 20 21:20
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schestowitz__"Good thing, I never used it in spite of the peer pressure. ;)"Feb 20 21:20
schestowitz__https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsAppFeb 20 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nl.wikipedia.org | WhatsApp - WikipediaFeb 20 21:20
schestowitz__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsAppFeb 20 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | WhatsApp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 20 21:21
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schestowitz__"German Tech site The H demonstrated how to use WhatsAPI to hijack any WhatsApp account on September 14, 2012.[32] Shortly after, a legal threat to WhatsAPI's developers was alleged, characterized by The H as "an apparent reaction" to security reports, and WhatsAPI's source code was taken down for some days.[33] The WhatsAPI team has since returned to active development"Feb 20 21:21
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schestowitz__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_KoumFeb 20 21:26
schestowitz__"In 1997 Jan Koum was hired by Yahoo as an infrastructure engineer, shortly after he met Brian Acton while working at Ernst & Young as a security tester[5]. Over the next nine years, they worked at Yahoo. In September 2007 Koum and Acton left Yahoo and took a year off, traveling around South America and playing ultimate frisbee. Both applied, and failed, to work at Facebook. In January 2009, he bought an iPhone and realized that the Feb 20 21:26
schestowitz__then seven-month old App Store was about to spawn a whole new industry of apps. He visited his friend Alex Fishman and talked about of an app over[5]. Koum almost immediately chose the name WhatsApp because it sounded like “what’s up,” and a week later on his birthday, Feb. 24, 2009, he incorporated WhatsApp Inc. in California[5]."Feb 20 21:26
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoumFeb 20 21:28
schestowitz__writing in RussianFeb 20 21:29
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/433084413325238272Feb 20 21:29
schestowitz__So it's actually a US company staying in the USFeb 20 21:29
schestowitz__not a new addition for the NSAFeb 20 21:29
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schestowitz__http://zyalt.livejournal.com/983675.htmlFeb 20 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jan Koum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 20 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twitter.com | jan koum (jankoum) on TwitterFeb 20 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: @TypaHTaeB можете прислать мне более подробную информацию на мыло? jan собака http://t.co/RBnRYbqz9F … спасибо.Feb 20 21:30
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schestowitz__http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2014/02/19/exclusive-inside-story-how-jan-koum-built-whatsapp-into-facebooks-new-19-billion-baby/Feb 20 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Exclusive: The Rags-To-Riches Tale Of How Jan Koum Built WhatsApp Into Facebook's New $19 Billion Baby - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gnyw5 ]Feb 20 21:36
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/425891893298208768Feb 20 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: Who the fuck is Diana Chub and why does german wikipedia entry for WhatsApp says she founded WhatsApp? #confused http://t.co/ZpllpAxfaJFeb 20 21:37
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/394259718606053376Feb 20 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: Every day our users share over 400 million photos via WhatsApp... #erlang #freebsdFeb 20 21:38
schestowitz__NSA wantsFeb 20 21:38
schestowitz__and fuckerfaceFeb 20 21:39
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/316961998304845824Feb 20 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: WhatsApp Messenger: Made in USA. Land of the free and the home of the brave.Feb 20 21:39
schestowitz__no sarcasm?Feb 20 21:39
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/262099630773399552Feb 20 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: New York bathroom http://t.co/p4ceFVxBFeb 20 21:40
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schestowitz__http://www.muktware.com/2014/02/google-fiber-may-roll-additional-34-new-cities/21371Feb 20 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.muktware.com | Google Fiber may roll out to an additional 34 new cities - Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gnz0u ]Feb 20 22:01
schestowitz__BT does that too here, but it's used for surveillanceFeb 20 22:01
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436611846637109250  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436615080072208384 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436625735391145984Feb 20 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "German Tech site The H demonstrated how to use WhatsAPI to hijack any WhatsApp account on September 14, 2012" http://t.co/wh22sxtV0vFeb 20 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Photos from #ukraine http://t.co/FjhESmnQVRFeb 20 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Updated TDF Board and New #LibreOffice Release http://t.co/eMv8iLWYNN #tdf #openofficeFeb 20 22:19
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668948Feb 20 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #WhatsApp becomes...Feb 20 22:42
schestowitz__and a bunch of pension money once again flows to some Bill Gates connected crony. $19 billion, four in cash, the rest in FB toilet paper stock. That four billion probably came from the "institutional investors" suckered by the FB IPO - firemen, policemen, teachers, widows and orphans who won't get the money they are expecting and deserve.""Feb 20 22:42
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436626621857284096  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436635343748878336Feb 20 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Today's big acquisition shows that no matter how bad you are, if you're in surveillance, then because - not despite - bad economy, you get $Feb 20 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Holy crap, what has happened to Slashdot? Looks like a blog with #Microsoft slant and former Microsoft moles. #slashdot #diceFeb 20 22:56
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XFaCEschestowitz__: acquisition?Feb 21 00:16
XFaCEWhatsApp?Feb 21 00:16
icecrawler<schestowitz__> and fuckerfaceFeb 21 00:47
icecrawlernice high horse you're ridingFeb 21 00:47
icecrawlerand "mother fucker" is offensive...Feb 21 00:47
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prurigrohe mad? I think he madFeb 21 06:06
DaemonFCMy stepdad was looking at iPhones.Feb 21 06:15
DaemonFCI steered him towards a Moto G instead.Feb 21 06:15
DaemonFCYou can get an unlocked Moto G 16 GB for $199 then put a Straight Talk sim card in it and get unlimited everything for $45 a month.Feb 21 06:15
DaemonFCIt's limited to 3G, but that's all you get in most parts of Indiana anyway. :PFeb 21 06:16
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668803Feb 21 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Apple 'snapped up...Feb 21 07:33
schestowitz__"They have been accused of this kind of thing before - cornering the market, bribing manufacturers. It does not seem to have helped them because Android has over run them anyway."Feb 21 07:33
schestowitz__"CNet and Gigohm are doing a silly thing. They are talking about what great features the next spyPhone will have and ignoring the anti-trust implications of buying out Canonical's suppliers. That's really shit of them."Feb 21 07:34
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schestowitz__FSF hostility continues http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/84851Feb 21 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | gNewSense 3.1: The FSF-approved Linux distro that's stuck in 2010 [ http://ur1.ca/go1q7 ]Feb 21 08:06
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436777977247186944  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436777434323881984  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436777332075134976   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436775158960119808Feb 21 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open source: A fad no more http://t.co/4MwTFPyE1J can be taken for granted now, almost...Feb 21 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open Source Sochi Maps Beat Google's Versions http://t.co/sKgVrBqaEz #opendata more accurateFeb 21 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Gavin Andresen To #Bitcoin Companies: Support Open Source http://t.co/b6PWShM6hWFeb 21 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Leaked: Linux’s Look Back Facebook Video http://t.co/fnOBPOj3Ux #linuxFeb 21 08:26
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436771835192295424 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436771396753321984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436768752559218688  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436768393996533761Feb 21 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: PHL among countries to get first crack at Ubuntu smartphones http://t.co/QstIHOkUUn #gnu #linuxFeb 21 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu Touch x86 emulator improves security, OpenGL http://t.co/muNs0ndEcG #ubuntu #opengl #gnu #linuxFeb 21 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu 14.04 brings back menus in application windows http://t.co/rv9AiL2XLl #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 08:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Live Stream: Richard Stallman, A Free Digital Society http://t.co/QtoUCazBZk #gnu #fsfFeb 21 08:27
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schestowitz__After I published a short interview about Diaspora (RMS on Diaspora) someone took it upon himself/herself to post all the political notes from stallman.org in diaspora, under an RMS account.Feb 21 08:40
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436780008724758528   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436780297720721408    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436780649928998912    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436781106030202880    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436781712513961985Feb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #bitcoin gains http://t.co/lde1RIcBySFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> edition.cnn.com | Bitcoin ATMs coming to the U.S. - CNN.comFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "More smears on bitcoin, and (unrelated) swipes against anonymity, something which bitcoin does not provide..." https://t.co/N8L0j7lI8WFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.informationweek.com | Bye, Bitcoin: Criminals Seek Other Crypto Currency - InformationWeekFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The US has bullied our banks into handing over a billion dollars http://t.co/JRGEGFSYLd applying US law in the EUFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | The US has bullied our banks into handing over a billion dollars - TelegraphFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: RIAA Accuses Grooveshark of Making Piracy a Job Requirement http://t.co/4ZXvxxmOhn the same people who lie so habituallyFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> torrentfreak.com | RIAA Accuses Grooveshark of Making Piracy a Job Requirement | TorrentFreakFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Noam Chomsky: Why Americans Are Paranoid About Everything (Including Zombies) http://t.co/LnvWDZF5lW control by fearFeb 21 08:52
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436800953308954624  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436801110813454336  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436812080457711616Feb 21 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: [RT] Security News: Education, DDoS, Linksys, SpamAssassin Release… http://t.co/Fqts2H17TU #spamassassin #linksys #ddosFeb 21 10:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: ‘Cloud’ Watch: ownCloud, CloudStack, OpenStack, Hadoop and More http://t.co/fzyS1rByAW #fogcomputingFeb 21 10:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In Another Attempt to Derail British #ODF Policy #Microsoft Calls Its Systematic Bribery "Internationally Recognised" http://t.co/X3fT0YpmAdFeb 21 10:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436815957756235776Feb 21 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Latest Examples of Public Sector Moves to Free Software http://t.co/QrUpDTDoA4 #uk #eu #fr #de #ch #nl etc.Feb 21 10:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436816497756090368Feb 21 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Vi https://t.co/HteNswYouSFeb 21 10:57
Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/02/20/adobe-flash-update-2/Feb 21 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Adobe Releases Another Emergency Update for Flash - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/go2s6 ]Feb 21 11:00
Sosumianother bandaidFeb 21 11:00
Sosumiadobe's trash player is like damFeb 21 11:01
Sosumiif it develops a crack you certainly aren't going to duct tape the whole thingFeb 21 11:02
Sosumiinstead, you decommission it and build a new oneFeb 21 11:03
Sosumion this case, just kill flashFeb 21 11:03
Sosumiand have it replaced by something elseFeb 21 11:03
Sosumilike html5Feb 21 11:03
MinceRunfortunately, html5 is turning into the exact same kind of proprietary garbageFeb 21 11:06
MinceRthanks to w3c, tbl, m$, crApple, MPEG LA and the MAFIAAFeb 21 11:06
MinceRgeekingsFeb 21 11:07
SosumiyesFeb 21 11:14
SosumiI read about them trying to integrate DRM into html5Feb 21 11:14
schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436830359901446145  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436835923297574912  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436840657412689921Feb 21 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Good Advocacy by the @LinuxFoundation Stresses the Jobs Effect, But Should Mention #GNU Also http://t.co/29Z1nZBPnc #linuxFeb 21 12:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu Makes Many Headlines Again, This Time Because of Real Phones http://t.co/bxuRUUXkce #gnu #linux #Feb 21 12:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Links 21/2/2014: Games http://t.co/40XDehFdiM Applications http://t.co/7mldl78RrY Instructionals http://t.co/jsCtNAy4DWFeb 21 12:32
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Sosumi!google html5 drmFeb 21 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - DRM In HTML5: What Is Tim Berners-Lee Thinking? | Techdirt | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131016/06583824895/drm-html5-what-is-tim-berners-lee-thinking.shtmlFeb 21 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Lowering Your Standards: DRM and the Future of the W3C ... | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/lowering-your-standardsFeb 21 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Berners-Lee and W3C approve HTML5 video DRM additions ... | http://www.infoworld.com/t/html5/berners-lee-and-w3c-approve-html5-video-drm-additions-228220Feb 21 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Tell W3C: We don't want the Hollyweb | Defective by Design | http://www.defectivebydesign.org/no-drm-in-html5Feb 21 12:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436849445247143938 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436850682147401728  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436851045151813632  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436851309225201664Feb 21 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Gates-funded (for agenda) 'guardian' still seems to be foolishly using #Microsoft #Windows http://t.co/kM7l2bckbCFeb 21 13:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #bloomberg debating not the leaks but how to prevent the leaks http://t.co/EFElP8O7qBFeb 21 13:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: RSA, NSA-bribed event, gets press. TrustyCon, dubbed "The Trustworthy Technology Conference," funded by NSA-funded PRISM members. #microsoftFeb 21 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why AT&T’s Surveillance Report Omits 80 Million NSA Targets http://t.co/bVogwUeskv #droNSA #target #nsa #espionageFeb 21 13:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436852470325997568  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436852599070154752  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436852901362016257 Feb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When #europe realises that #pentagon created Internet is now #surveillance apparatus, will other continents get it? http://t.co/yAu4w2FgmCFeb 21 13:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #NSA once banned Furbies as a threat to national security http://t.co/SwF0PVwIA6 it's not satire.Feb 21 13:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Mikulski defends #stasi state http://t.co/vopVSpkrRj #nsaFeb 21 13:29
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436853626540417024  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436854106293297152Feb 21 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program http://t.co/BDTZvfqPwh http://t.co/HdBNYJE76KFeb 21 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com | Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program - Network WorldFeb 21 13:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA Spying Leaves Law Firms Vulnerable To Litigation http://t.co/XClO9ChcqZ this will hurt US-based "law" firmsFeb 21 13:30
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schestowitzA church's concerns http://www.catholic.org/news/blog/story.php?id=54184Feb 21 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catholic.org | NSA Spy's on 'YOU' in your own Home! - Blog - Catholic Online [ http://ur1.ca/go3wo ]Feb 21 13:39
schestowitzLOLFeb 21 13:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436855868098093056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436858000608096256  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436859314343796736Feb 21 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nsa undermines justice itself http://t.co/hyUPgHm2jv violating relationships (client-lawyer), not just breaking the law itselfFeb 21 14:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #fbi thinks #espionage by government and #oppression of domestic population is what government is really for http://t.co/cPnWnVC85DFeb 21 14:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NSA lawsuits may lead to expansion of spying program http://t.co/Pm4N3KvHDA intoxicated by Power. #droNSAFeb 21 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtontimes.com | NSA lawsuits may lead to expansion of spying program - Washington TimesFeb 21 14:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436859781320810496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436860330007076864  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436860765317120002Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Intel chief dodges #NSA questions in #Reddit AMA http://t.co/vDvCNsizs9 #intel as the same suggests is playing ball for #nsaFeb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.sfgate.com | Intel chief dodges NSA questions in Reddit AMA - The Technology ChroniclesFeb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Linux Foundation, which is founded and funded by some #nsa partners, has said almost nothing about the NSA scandals.Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nsa "public relations" http://t.co/0aq5DX0zUA #perceptionManagement #pr #espionage #armyFeb 21 14:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.stabroeknews.com/2014/news/regional/02/21/venezuelas-violent-crime-fuels-death-business/Feb 21 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stabroeknews.com | Venezuela’s violent crime fuels the death business - Stabroek News - Georgetown, Guyana [ http://ur1.ca/go4ea ]Feb 21 15:08
schestowitz"The government is responsible, the opposition argues, for being soft on crime, for politicizing and corrupting institutions such as the judiciary, and for glorifying violence in public discourse."Feb 21 15:08
schestowitzhttp://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/02/20/the-libyan-bedlam-general-hifter-the-cia-and-the-unfinished-coup/Feb 21 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foreignpolicyjournal.com | The Libyan Bedlam: General Hifter, the CIA and the Unfinished Coup - Foreign Policy Journal | Foreign Policy Journal [ http://ur1.ca/go4ir ]Feb 21 15:25
schestowitzhttp://www.eurasiareview.com/21022014-saudis-cia-agree-arm-syrian-moderates-advanced-weapons-oped/Feb 21 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurasiareview.com | Saudis And CIA Agree To Arm Syrian 'Moderates' With Advanced Weapons - OpEd Eurasia Review [ http://ur1.ca/go4ke ]Feb 21 15:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436874385249824768 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436876051311235072  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436876432816734209  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436876752036843520  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436877094707281921Feb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Rand Paul: The NSA is still violating our rights, despite what James Clapper says http://t.co/7D4zzzrttD #nsaFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | The NSA is still violating Americans' rights, despite what James Clapper says | Rand Paul | Comment is free | theguardian.comFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Upgrading the NSA-powered assassination machinery http://t.co/nbJEEofmAr #nsa #droNSA #ciaFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | New Jet-Powered Drone Can Kill 1,800 Miles From Home Base | Danger Room | Wired.comFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why a Pakistani reporter is suing the #CIA for murder http://t.co/3E5Iht0PFf http://t.co/FcXaqz3Jah try #nsa tooFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.csmonitor.com | Why a Pakistani reporter is suing the CIA for murder - CSMonitor.comFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> pakobserver.net | Drone attacksFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #drones have the same effect as terrorism http://t.co/Kvph43KXfPFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.poughkeepsiejournal.com | NO TITLEFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: One of the very last set of attacks from #drones killed many civilians http://t.co/mIEpT5mEHZ #nytimes called them "militants"Feb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pbs.org | Report: U.S. drone strike may have killed up to a dozen civilians in Yemen | The Rundown | PBS NewsHour | PBSFeb 21 15:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436877516444545024  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436879117150343168  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436879695905583104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436879815921389568  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436880591423037440Feb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The US citizens whom #obama wants to kill (extrajudicial) for "suspicion" of "plan" not an "imminent threat" http://t.co/pUJJxPhrxXFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> antiwar.com | The American on Obama’s ‘Kill List’ Doesn’t Pose An Imminent Threat « Antiwar.com BlogFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Anonymous US officials have said all of the twelve men killed were militants" http://t.co/ECWCvkRHZP a lie of courseFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenation.com | The Men We Kill, and the Men We Don’t | The NationFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Jon Stewart Compares Obama's Drone Program With Bush's Torture Policy http://t.co/HHQ7YCswC6 http://t.co/hE4rBDF0uB http://t.co/3S8dIHEZnfFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com | Jon Stewart Compares Obama's Drone Program With Bush's Torture PolicyFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.truthdig.com | Jon Stewart: President Obama Is Like ‘Barry Bombs’ of Drone Strikes - TruthdigFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thewrap.com | Jon Stewart Calls Obama the 'Barry Bombs of Drone Strikes' - TheWrapFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The problem with the Jon Stewart satire is, #bush started the #drone #assassination policy and #obama continues to torture.Feb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Breeding public support for assassination http://t.co/ybEV56E2Hh courtesy: Hollywood http://t.co/olVL9Oz66ZFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.technologytell.com | Movie Review: "3 Days to Kill" | EntertainmentTellFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dissenter.firedoglake.com | Former Top CIA Lawyer John Rizzo Hails Agency’s ‘Special Relationship’ with Hollywood Figures | The DissenterFeb 21 15:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436880873645174784  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436882696414167040  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436882976736296961   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436883222769991680  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436883393784344576Feb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: War on shoes http://t.co/A0d4fV36Ex stripping us first at the borders (then "stop and search"/frisking)Feb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cbn.com | US Officials Warn of Airline Shoe Bomb Threat - US - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.comFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Not only #cbs spreads the "war on terror" #propaganda. #cnn makes it sound like there's a shoe bomb "industry"/"tech" http://t.co/d7LCUy8qR3Feb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thelead.blogs.cnn.com | Former CIA operative: Shoe bomb technology getting better – The Lead with Jake Tapper - CNN.com BlogsFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Murdoch's Fox 'news' continues its series of articles discrediting Michael Moron http://t.co/DlE84D4zmuFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.foxnews.com | Former CIA official accused of misleading lawmakers on Benghazi | Fox NewsFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Casting for #propaganda film advocating #assassination http://t.co/0KqcQwKKac people's appeal to characters, not ideasFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.euronews.com | Hailee Steinfeld is Costner’s daughter in CIA action thriller | euronews, cinemaFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Lithuania opens probe into CIA 'black site' allegations http://t.co/RJl4npqGTT #torture #cia #europeFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.baltic-course.com | Lithuania opens probe into CIA 'black site' allegations :: The Baltic Course | Baltic States news & analyticsFeb 21 15:39
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3671152Feb 21 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 21 18:19
schestowitz__"wtf!!"Feb 21 18:19
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3670748Feb 21 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Noam Chomsky: Why...Feb 21 18:20
schestowitz__"If I would be crushing half of the world and pissing the other half, I would be very scared."Feb 21 18:20
schestowitz__http://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/02/12396/no-one-cares-about-crazy-people-walker-staffFeb 21 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prwatch.org | Walker Staff on the Mentally Ill: "No One Cares about Crazy People" | PR Watch [ http://ur1.ca/go5o3 ]Feb 21 18:21
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436928866607955968  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436929250332246017 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436929548496949248Feb 21 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Conservative" politics http://t.co/WalkLwIiahFeb 21 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #facebook is buying a lot of personal data (photos/FBInstagram and now chats+photos). The business model cannot be miscomprehended. #gbFeb 21 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Koch brothers and their wealthy allies pledged to spend $400 million on the 2012 elections" http://t.co/KzFdhKfgoEFeb 21 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.prwatch.org | Koch Network Raised Over $400 Million in 2012 | PR WatchFeb 21 18:28
schestowitz__Buttons with numbers  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436933203996459008  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436932138857152512Feb 21 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #LinuxGizmos recently installed spyware in all pages. Every page request transmits visitor data to Google, Twitter, LinkedIn, and Facebook.Feb 21 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Jolla unveils Sailfish OS 1.0, tips Angry Birds phone http://t.co/raMcF2EiH7 #gchq would hoard data off it...Feb 21 18:40
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672699Feb 21 19:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #LinuxGizmos rece...Feb 21 19:06
schestowitz__"standard marketing association right? consumer behavior is weened like this!"Feb 21 19:06
schestowitz__Microsoft tried this too, around 2011, falsely claiming WP had AngryBirds and making the developers angryFeb 21 19:07
MinceRAngry DevelopersFeb 21 19:08
schestowitz__http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130209173442/tvtropesmirror/images/e/e6/Einstein_never_said.jpgFeb 21 19:14
MinceR:)Feb 21 19:16
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schestowitz__http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/17/new_password_system_lets_planet_earth_do_the_hard_work/Feb 21 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | New password system lets planet Earth do the hard work • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/go60o ]Feb 21 19:26
MinceRno info on how people will enter such a "password"Feb 21 19:28
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672927Feb 21 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 21 19:30
schestowitz__I think you can find those everywhere."77"Feb 21 19:30
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436942722180870144Feb 21 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #privacy issue reported to #LinuxGizmos -- rule of thumb is, if the button shows a number or is interactive, then it's spyware.Feb 21 19:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGenevaFeb 21 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twitter.com | JenniferPGeneva (JenniferPGeneva) on TwitterFeb 21 19:36
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/436758930531041280Feb 21 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @JasonLeopold I won at FR Sup Ct w/ asylum case,but if I wind-up "totally discredited" (or worse, heaven forfend), the "cui bono" is Lady DiFeb 21 19:37
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/436515286578388992 https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/436515387262656512Feb 21 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: LA Times: "Sen Feinstein offered a full-throated defense of govt collection of data on billions of US phone calls" http://t.co/kmyXjs3uJ6Feb 21 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.latimes.com | Sen. Dianne Feinstein defends NSA and need for intelligence gathering - latimes.comFeb 21 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: It's just unbelievable. It's like she has no ears.Feb 21 19:37
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672629Feb 21 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #facebook is buyi...Feb 21 19:49
schestowitz__"Any idea whats still missing on the list? * Maybe locations (e.g. foursquare [are people still using that?])"Feb 21 19:49
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436949949071503360  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436951833459056640Feb 21 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Observing rapid decline of human rights and intolerance t/w dissent, more US citizens seek to switch to EU passports https://t.co/lqsl2854e2Feb 21 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Seeing how journalists (Assange, Miranda/Greenwald, Shayler), lawyers (Snowden's), etc. get treated in #uk ,no wonder ppl go to FR, DE, etc.Feb 21 19:55
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436953371527118848  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436954090074300416  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436954324212920320   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955285580947456Feb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Zorin OS 8 - More like Windows 7 than Windows 7 http://t.co/4CfgU2Wol5 #vista7 #zorin #gnu #linuxFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Zorin OS 8 - More like Windows 7 than Windows 7 « Everyday Linux UserFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linaro tackles Android and Linux security http://t.co/WtQzHPmKwc #linux #android #linaroFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Linaro tackles Android and Linux security ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: GNOME 3.12 Might Come To Fedora 20, Packages Available http://t.co/qT0dx86lyW #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux #gnomeFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] GNOME 3.12 Might Come To Fedora 20, Packages AvailableFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Jolla’s Sailfish OS will be available for Android devices http://t.co/nKkDNkkVcW http://t.co/raMcF2EiH7 #sailfish #jolla #linuxFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Jolla's Sailfish OS will be available for Android devices | MuktwareFeb 21 20:23
MinceR"More like Windows 7 than Windows 7" -- that doesn't sound good at allFeb 21 20:23
MinceRit's a warning if anythingFeb 21 20:23
schestowitz__yeahFeb 21 20:24
schestowitz__I thought the sameFeb 21 20:24
schestowitz__and it may imply antifeatures alsoFeb 21 20:24
MinceRindeedFeb 21 20:24
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955479022256129 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955687525298176  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955917230551040   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436956459294019584Feb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: May open source be with you http://t.co/sfC3dRdNee #opensource #freesw #freedomFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com | A story of open source learning and searching | opensource.comFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A comparison of gaming options for Linux users http://t.co/FfWT3kesij #games #gnu #linux #surveyFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | A comparison of gaming options for Linux users | MuktwareFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: With Ubuntu in the Mix, 2014 is the Year of the Open Source Phone http://t.co/0sFeyBangl #ubuntu part of a broader trendFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://ostatic.com/page_not_found )Feb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Interview with Penn Manor – PA Champions of Open Source http://t.co/aj4xiQFnIh another one behind mass migration to #gnu #linuxFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Interview with Penn Manor - PA Champions of Open Source | MuktwareFeb 21 20:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436956746167648256  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436957355281240064Feb 21 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Broadwell Now Officially Enabled With Intel Mesa http://t.co/RhFxVX02Lb #intel #linux #mesa #broadwellFeb 21 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Broadwell Now Officially Enabled With Intel MesaFeb 21 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims http://t.co/FBD4BaPkBD #gnu #linux #windows #vista8 #microsoftFeb 21 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.omgubuntu.co.uk | 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims | OMG! Ubuntu!Feb 21 20:26
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3672992Feb 21 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johpunk@joindiaspora.com: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/photography/2014/02/venezuela_protest_photos_police_and_protesters_clash_during_demonstrations.htmlFeb 21 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.slate.com | Venezuela protest photos: Police and protesters clash during demonstrations. [ http://ur1.ca/go6dp ]Feb 21 20:39
schestowitz__"Anti-government but pro what?"Feb 21 20:39
schestowitz__CIA maybe, againFeb 21 20:39
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3672969Feb 21 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aliceinwonderland@diasp.eu reshared: ### Inside #DuckDuckGo, #Google's #Tiniest, #Fiercest #CompetitorFeb 21 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.fastcolabs.com | Inside DuckDuckGo, Google's Tiniest, Fiercest Competitor ⚙ Co.Labs ⚙ code + community [ http://ur1.ca/go6e8 ]Feb 21 20:41
schestowitz__DDG is surveillance too, it's no alternative to Google http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/2013_06_21-avoid_duck_duck_go/Feb 21 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-173.21.64.166 | Duck Duck No No [ http://ur1.ca/giurh ]Feb 21 20:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672992Feb 21 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | http://www.slate....Feb 21 20:49
schestowitz__"That's what I was thinking. It seems like it's mirroring the Ukraine situation. In a recent article by roarmag Syndicalist leaders are suggesting that leftist break from the anti-government protests and hunker down in a part of the city. Nationalism on the rise my friends."Feb 21 20:49
schestowitz__"Clarification: The roarmag article was talking about Ukraine not Venezuela."Feb 21 20:50
schestowitz__In Venezuela there has been resistance from the gov t/w the West. The plutocrats there (and CIA) hate the gov.Feb 21 20:50
schestowitz__Very different situation although in some circles I read that Ukraine protests are propped up by US.Feb 21 20:51
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436961095279202304  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436961962233458688    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436964256823926784     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436965418587422722     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436965746812657664Feb 21 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Wine 1.7.13 Lands More Task Scheduler Support http://t.co/5JSiwuMHXr #wine #windows #gnu #linuxFeb 21 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Wine 1.7.13 Lands More Task Scheduler SupportFeb 21 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Jolla’s #Sailfish logo is so similar to #seagate that it's a bit worrying. Do they want to get mentally associated with #nsa partners?Feb 21 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Which Side of History Will FIFA Be on in the March to End Slavery in Qatar? http://t.co/TtqGfURZaw #fifa #qatarFeb 21 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.co.uk | Which Side of History Will FIFA Be on in the March to End Slavery in Qatar? | Sharan BurrowFeb 21 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #ZDNet - part of #cbs - continues old tradition: just one trademark in the menu (Microsoft), beneath there is one ad (also Microsoft). #prFeb 21 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #ZDNet is perhaps the scummiest "tech" publications (tabloid). It is to tech news what DailyFail is to political news http://t.co/xffqS65BilFeb 21 20:52
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schestowitz__Not sure if it's true http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1393016019776332_tall.jpgFeb 21 21:02
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436968927055577088Feb 21 21:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New Screenshots http://t.co/X0X6No63B5Feb 21 21:03
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schestowitz__Muktware is really taking off, it's becoming a really good sourceFeb 21 21:55
schestowitz__http://www.muktware.com/2013/11/announcing-muktware-bloggers-network-mbn-india/16492Feb 21 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.muktware.com | Announcing Muktware's Bloggers Network (MBN) [ http://ur1.ca/go6rk ]Feb 21 21:55
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3673437Feb 21 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "You don’t have to look too hard at the slate of new smartphones to see Android’s “bigger is better” ethos." http://m.itworld.com/open-source/406230/are-android-phones-too-bigFeb 21 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> m.itworld.com | Are Android phones too big? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/go6sr ]Feb 21 22:00
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx1TNFPT01ZSKUVFeb 22 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Indiana Governor Pence gets his latest setback from members of his own party in the General Assembly. [ http://ur1.ca/go8td ]Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFChttp://www.journalgazette.net/article/20140221/LOCAL06/302219975/0/SEARCHFeb 22 03:50
DaemonFCFirst, Pence tried to get HJR-3, the Marriage Discrimination Amendment on the ballot for 2014. The General Assembly ended up deleting half of it and starting the process over, meaning half of it will end up on the ballot, maybe, in 2016, if the Supreme Court hasn't already struck down all of the Marriage Discrimination laws by then. Then, even if it passes (more than half of survey respondents said they'd vote against it, forcing an unpopular Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCamendment and Pence on the same ballot, LOL!), it will probably be short lived.Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThen the Christian Taliban added to the hilarity by suing the state to try to get the old HJR-3 on the ballot, essentially asking Indiana courts to find that the constitutional method for a constitutional amendment is unconstitutional. (Morons!)Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThen Pence tried to cut taxes for rich corporations by a billion dollars a year, without saying where he'd find the money to offset the harm that this will do to local budgets, which are already strained and barely able to functionFeb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThe General Assembly refused to pass it and instead set up a "committee to explore that and get back to you sometime next year".Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThen Pence tried to set up a voucher system so that parents could send their children to profitized religious preschools in violation of Article I Section 6 of the Indiana Constitution.Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThe General Assembly told him....NO.Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThen, Pence tried to go on a spending spree, building more sections of the NAFTA superhighway while the rest of Indiana's roads look like landmines went off. The General Assembly came back with his requested funding cut in half.Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCPence is a joke.Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCIt hardly seems bearable that I have to wait another two and half years to help dismiss this insufferable Teatard from office while we have to watch more of his spectacles. Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx32S0QV84YC02WFeb 22 03:52
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 03:52
DaemonFChttp://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/02/20/gun-fetish-shoots-self/Feb 22 03:52
DaemonFCA white guy accidentally shot himself in the stomach, then claimed that he was trying to defend himself from a "black man in a hoodie".Feb 22 03:52
DaemonFCThen after police wasted their time investigating his claim, and determined that there was no black man, he changed his story.Feb 22 03:52
DaemonFCNow, the prosecutor is deciding whether to charge him with filing a false police report. Feb 22 03:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictinginfo.org | Gun fetishist shoots himself and blames imaginary black man [ http://ur1.ca/go8ts ]Feb 22 03:55
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 04:16
DaemonFCI'd like to fill that pothole I ran over the other day with Governor Pence.Feb 22 04:16
DaemonFCHey! I found a use for The Robot! Feb 22 04:17
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DaemonFC Patricia says:Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCIf you are unemployed in Indiana, stop whining and move to a more vibrant state. If you live in a backwater rubbish state, unemployment is exactly what you deserve.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCPS: Isn't that bimbo Dan Quayle from Indiana? Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCYes.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCMister "Potatoe" Head, himself.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCWe have his "Vice Presidential Library" here. Unfortunately, the former do-nothing one-term VP hasn't had the time to come argue about how to spell potato with any more third graders, and lose.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFC:)Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCDan Quayle was a pioneer in a few ways. Losing an argument with a third grader is definitely a first for an American Vice President.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCDeclining to run for the Presidency because of Phlebitis is probably also a first.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCHe's probably also the first former VP who had a son that ran for a House seat and lost.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCHe's definitely the only politician that I know of that blamed "America's declining moral values" primarily on Murphy Brown.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCHe's probably the first one-term Vice President to endorse another losing Presidential ticket. Mitt Romney.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCAnything I missed?Feb 22 04:31
DaemonFCThey spent federal money to make a bust of Dan Quayle in the Senate. It was redundant, since Quayle was already a bust. It's worth more than Dan Quayle, and it is smarter than Dan Quayle too! Feb 22 04:31
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 04:35
DaemonFCDan Quayle was once threatened by a poisonous snake.Feb 22 04:35
DaemonFCAfter three hours of agonizing boredom, the snake died. Feb 22 04:35
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Sosumim$ is slashing prices of windows licenses by 70%Feb 22 11:11
Sosumiaccording to them, to compete with crappleFeb 22 11:11
Sosumiso windows 9 to be a toy OS? that fails at even accomplishing thatFeb 22 11:12
Sosumihttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-22/microsoft-said-to-cut-windows-price-70-to-counter-rivals.htmlFeb 22 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bloomberg.com | Microsoft Said to Cut Windows Price 70% to Counter Rivals - Bloomberg [ http://ur1.ca/goawb ]Feb 22 11:14
Sosumiyep, or not to just shove the monstrosity that vista 8 is with its disjointed GUIFeb 22 11:15
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/sabinenamba/status/437161337400344576Feb 22 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sabinenamba: @schestowitz @ramez so #larry summer was wrong! God bless!Feb 22 11:49
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437192420837851136  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437192459496734720  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437194236715597825  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437194293611347968Feb 22 12:00
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schestowitz__Sosumi: won't work this timeFeb 22 12:01
schestowitz__they tried it before, it's too lateFeb 22 12:01
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schestowitz__http://stallman.org/archives/2013-nov-feb.html#21_February_2014_%28The_protests_in_Venezuela%29Feb 22 12:20
schestowitz__" I do not find it implausible that the US has helped organize the protests. I do not find it implausible that a provocateur (either working for the Venezuelan government or working for the US) has killed people on both sides. "Feb 22 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2013: November - February Political Notes - Richard Stallman [ http://ur1.ca/gob73 ]Feb 22 12:20
schestowitz__" In any case, it is clearly wrong to prosecute the leader of a protest because violence breaks out later. This resembles what the US did to the Haymarket martyrs. "Feb 22 12:20
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437200428254912512   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437198508186415104  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437198492717813760Feb 22 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Enlightenment's Elementary, EFL 1.9 Beta 2 http://t.co/fylhoskuFP #Enlightenment #EFL #gnu #linuxFeb 22 12:22
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Sosumischestowitz__, repeating the same thing while expecting different resultsFeb 22 12:40
Sosumiis the very definition of insanityFeb 22 12:41
SosumiI think that it was Einstein who said thatFeb 22 12:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3673149Feb 22 12:46
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schestowitz__"The fact they were still using XP already indicates that they would, since they can see all the newer Windows releases that have been churned out in the last few years for the gigantic heap of bullshit that they are. I still dual-boot XP so long as I can't find acceptable free software to meet some of my needs, since it's probably the least-broken OS that Microsoft ever released."Feb 22 12:46
Sosumihttp://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=461684&d=1392862088Feb 22 12:52
schestowitz__http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/item/the_snowden_files_20140221Feb 22 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truthdig.com | The Snowden Files - Book Review - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/gobdg ]Feb 22 12:54
schestowitz__Luke Harding? The exploitative one who demonises Guardian sources? Avoid.Feb 22 12:54
schestowitz__http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/apr/17/world-tomorrow-julian-assange-wikileaks Feb 22 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | The World Tomorrow: Julian Assange proves a useful idiot | Media | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gobdi ]Feb 22 12:54
schestowitz__http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/apr/10/wikileaks-david-leigh-luke-harding-reviewFeb 22 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | WikiLeaks by David Leigh and Luke Harding - review | Books | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gobdj ]Feb 22 12:54
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437209406737240064Feb 22 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Guardian's anti-Snowden book is out, a few years after the Guardian's anti-Assange book. So much for 'guardian'... #guardianFeb 22 13:01
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675086Feb 22 13:01
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 18:27
DaemonFCI got a kick out of that Trans Pacific Partnership comic that I posted the other day. Specifically, the part where the rich guy says "If I paid American wages, your shoes would cost $15.", so the guy wearing the shoes says "But, they already cost ten times that!", so the rich guy says "No. I meant they would cost ME $15 to make, instead of $3.66!".Feb 22 18:27
DaemonFCMy shoes were made in Massachusetts by Americans and this computer was assembled by an American (myself). Has anyone else had enough of this crap? Feb 22 18:27
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schestowitz> I don't object.Feb 22 19:33
schestowitzStallman about his new about in JoinDiasporaFeb 22 19:33
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 19:34
DaemonFCWhen you're good to fatass, fatass makes sure you get Sandy money.Feb 22 19:34
DaemonFCWhen you're not good to fatass, fatass shuts down your bridge. Feb 22 19:34
SosumiDaemonFC, that wouldn't be a problem be a problem if those low expertise jobsFeb 22 19:35
Sosumiwere supplanted by high tech jobsFeb 22 19:35
schestowitz> if you did not send me E-mail in the past 24 hours, then someone else did.Feb 22 19:35
schestowitz> —————————————————————————————————————————————————Feb 22 19:35
schestowitz> Feb 22 19:35
schestowitz> I cannot account for the Bell South message you received but I assure you all my future Sends will be only from Feb 22 19:35
Sosumiwhich isn't the caseFeb 22 19:35
schestowitz> Google G-Mail.Feb 22 19:35
schestowitzI think all your contacts may be getting spammed through the Bellsouth account.Feb 22 19:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437251928092057600  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437252500895596545Feb 22 19:36
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Sosumiand the fact that education in the US costs so much ins't helping in bringing that paradigm into viewFeb 22 19:36
Sosumiany time soonFeb 22 19:36
Sosumiif everFeb 22 19:36
Sosumibut don't worry,Feb 22 19:36
SosumiObozo and warnuts MacCain will be saying "may god bless amerikkka and the TPP" Feb 22 19:38
DaemonFCWhy pay taxes and invest in education for Americans?Feb 22 19:38
DaemonFCApple says that's "Someone else's problem." and hires Germans, Japanese, and Chinese to build their phones.Feb 22 19:38
Sosumiso you can get a properly trained workforce?Feb 22 19:38
Sosumibut they seem to be investing into charter schoolsFeb 22 19:39
DaemonFCIt's not an investment.Feb 22 19:39
DaemonFCIt's cronyism.Feb 22 19:39
SosumiyepFeb 22 19:39
SosumiI was saying to make ppl bleed money from every single orificeFeb 22 19:40
Sosumi*going to sayFeb 22 19:40
DaemonFCWhat are you investing in, exactly, when you teach children that plesiosaurs were detected by the radar of a Japanese submarine, and it proves that evolution didn't happen?Feb 22 19:40
SosumilolFeb 22 19:41
MinceRyour own downfallFeb 22 19:41
Sosumiok, USA = lalalalalalalalalalandFeb 22 19:43
SosumiI actually once tried to pull the carpet to a religious dude about evolutionFeb 22 19:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/freenodestaffFeb 22 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twitter.com | freenode staff (freenodestaff) on TwitterFeb 22 19:47
Sosumiby mentioned, in the overall battle between the forces of light (order) and the forces of darkness (chaos), opened a sea of possibilities in which early organisms or should I say, proto-organisms, to properly adapt to their respective environmentFeb 22 19:50
Sosumithus decreasing chaosFeb 22 19:50
Sosumiand with each evolutionary and opening into increased complexityFeb 22 19:52
Sosumifurther decreasing chaosFeb 22 19:52
Sosumiso cutting it shortFeb 22 19:52
Sosumigod wonFeb 22 19:52
Sosumiin the sense that order=godFeb 22 19:52
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Sosumiof course to turn the things more poetic I did brought in the cycles of mass extinction that killed earlier lifeformsFeb 22 19:54
Sosumias the constant battles between the forces of light and darknessFeb 22 19:55
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Sosumiand that is how you pull the carpet on religious folkFeb 22 19:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437312704504922112  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437313930072195074  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437314406792572928Feb 22 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Freenode is under #DDOS attack again (second time this month). Millions now know the pain of IRC DDOS, like that which #GCHQ launches.Feb 22 19:55
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msbDaemonFC: Hi!  Are you there?Feb 22 20:01
DaemonFCYeah.Feb 22 20:02
msbDaemonFC: Is comcast still disconnecting you if you do bittorrent?Feb 22 20:02
DaemonFCSometimes.Feb 22 20:03
DaemonFCIt seems to happen more in the evenings.Feb 22 20:03
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msbDaemonFC: But sometimes BT works?Feb 22 20:03
msbDaemonFC: I was gonna suggest downloading a Linux distro -- legal -- and see if they disconnect you.  If they do, you could complain legitimately.Feb 22 20:04
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DaemonFCWell, they were using Sandvine at one point.Feb 22 20:14
DaemonFCI joined a lawsuit against them for that.Feb 22 20:14
DaemonFCThey settled and ended up paying me $16.Feb 22 20:14
DaemonFC:PFeb 22 20:14
DaemonFCI also joined a lawsuit against Walmart for demanding off-the-clock work.Feb 22 20:15
DaemonFCI got $44.36.Feb 22 20:15
DaemonFCThey always end up settling for peanuts.Feb 22 20:15
DaemonFCThe lawyers get half the money and then the million or so people who got fucked get five bucks.Feb 22 20:16
DaemonFC:PFeb 22 20:16
DaemonFCThe only reason to sign onto a class action lawsuit is it doesn't cost you anything, you might get a few bucks, and the terms of a settlement typically state that any unclaimed money goes back to the offender.Feb 22 20:16
msbhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandvine#Comcast_controversyFeb 22 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sandvine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gog2o ]Feb 22 20:17
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DaemonFCAt least this way, Comcast and Walmart put a little bit of money into the economy. :PFeb 22 20:17
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DaemonFCAlso, I found on the Attorney General's website that a temp agency I worked for in 2003 didn't pay me for the last two hours that I technically worked for them before I got a permanent job offer.Feb 22 20:18
DaemonFCSo I got $20. :PFeb 22 20:18
DaemonFCIf you don't claim the money within 7 years after the AG posts it on that site, Indiana gets to keep it, and it goes into the state's general fund.Feb 22 20:18
DaemonFChttp://www.salon.com/2014/02/22/the_billion_dollar_whatsapp_acquisition_is_whats_wrong_with_americas_growth_partner/Feb 22 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.salon.com | Robert Reich: WhatsApp is everything wrong with the U.S. economy - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/gog3s ]Feb 22 20:20
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DaemonFCI posted this:Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCRobert Reich says that Facebook's acquisition of WhatsApp represents everything that's wrong with the American economy.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFChttp://www.salon.com/2014/02/22/the_billion_dollar_whatsapp_acquisition_is_whats_wrong_with_americas_growth_partner/Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCWhatsApp has 455 million users, and has just 55 employees. The amount of money that a company brings in no longer has anything to do with the number of employees it has to hire.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCThe 55 employees are all that WhatsApp needs to serve the 455 million customers.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCI didn't install WhatsApp to begin with, and I surely won't install it now that Facebook owns it.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCThat's a problem with proprietary software that mines your personal data. You never know who will end up "owning" it, and who they will sell it to.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCAt one point, there was even speculation that Opera Software ASA, was going to sell their web browser to Facebook. It didn't happen, although it still could in the future.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCWould you want to use a web browser that is owned by Facebook? That's the problem with proprietary software. Just because the company is benign today doesn't mean it won't do something nasty tomorrow.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCAnd just because it's nasty tomorrow doesn't mean it won't get worse next week.Feb 22 20:31
DaemonFCReich is focused on the lack of jobs that proprietary software makes.Feb 22 20:31
DaemonFCFreedom respecting software doesn't produce many jobs per end user either, but it places no restrictions on how the software can be used, and everything is done in the open. If someone does something nasty, someone else will release a corrected version without the unwanted feature.Feb 22 20:31
DaemonFCNobody can fork WhatsApp or Opera. Or Windows, or Mac OS, or...... You have to accept their nasty EULA or just avoid using them entirely.Feb 22 20:31
DaemonFCWhich is the topic of another article.Feb 22 20:31
DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/theres-really-bad-stuff-buried-those-terms-and-conditions-youre-expected-not-readFeb 22 20:31
DaemonFCJohn McAfee notes that proprietary software usually does something malicious/nasty and that users don't even bother to read the license before they install it.Feb 22 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org | There's Really Bad Stuff Buried in Those 'Terms and Conditions' You're Expected Not to Read and Just Click Yes on | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gog8q ]Feb 22 20:31
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schestowitz> "US News Dumps Pre-2007 Archive, Putting A Proxy Paywall Between WritersFeb 22 20:50
schestowitz> And Their Work"Feb 22 20:50
schestowitz> http://www.techdirt.com//articles/20140219/09364926282/us-news-dumps-pre-2007-archive-putting-proxy-paywall-between-writers-their-work.shtmlFeb 22 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | US News Dumps Pre-2007 Archive, Putting A Proxy Paywall Between Writers And Their Work | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/goghs ]Feb 22 20:50
schestowitz> Feb 22 20:50
schestowitz> Those are gone for good.  EBSCO and LexisNexis are expensive, they are aFeb 22 20:50
schestowitz> more serious barrier than just a simple paywall.  Your average go is noFeb 22 20:50
schestowitz> longer going to be able to find these articles, let alone browse or linkFeb 22 20:50
schestowitz> to them.Feb 22 20:51
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schestowitz> Lawrence Lessig keynote at SCALE 12.  His presentation starts at 1:01:30Feb 22 20:52
schestowitz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaG1SPvr__wFeb 22 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | UpSCALE and Lawrence Lessig Keynote - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gogih ]Feb 22 20:52
schestowitz> Feb 22 20:52
schestowitz> note: sound quality is next to uselessFeb 22 20:52
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schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437328775605657600  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437329419347451906Feb 22 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why one should write and publish for oneself http://t.co/JbbChkaMs9Feb 22 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Justice Department used this law to pursue Aaron Swartz. Now it’s open to reforming it. http://t.co/kjJRqj3gKY http://t.co/7ypzlQJKu3Feb 22 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | The Justice Department used this law to pursue Aaron Swartz. Now it’s open to reforming it.Feb 22 20:59
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msb__When technology enables machines to do what people formerly did, thus "destroying jobs", that should be a _good_ thing.  If machines can produce all the food and other things we need, then people wouldn't have to work.  It's called _socialism_ and the corporate-controlled US and other governments murder millions of people to prevent its adoption.Feb 22 21:14
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675081Feb 22 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 22 21:28
schestowitz"Now I feel almost privilleged - I can pay more! Wow!"Feb 22 21:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675534Feb 22 21:28
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schestowitz"oho! sign of trouble, civil unrest alert!"Feb 22 21:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675024Feb 22 21:29
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schestowitz"I think the same, and let's say that the US stops messing Venezuela. Venezuela has a lot of oil, is not under embargo like Cuba, and at this time a lot of companies are property of the State. Then why there is a lot of poverty, violence and a bankrupt economy? I would expect Venezuela doing at least as good as Mexico. Even the Evil Empire keeps buying Venezuelean oil."Feb 22 21:29
schestowitzMexico is not doing too well, either (even worse after NAFTA)Feb 22 21:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675551Feb 22 21:30
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schestowitz"I think the technologies already exist. What is missing is the social organisation and dissemination of knowledge necessary to implement them. The biggest problem is that this kind of farming is not in the interests of the transnational corporations, who are actively working to destroy it http://www.acbio.org.za/activist/index.php?m=u&f=dsp&petitionID=3"Feb 22 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.acbio.org.za | ACB - Food justice for all [ http://ur1.ca/goguj ]Feb 22 21:30
schestowitz"Interesting. However, we need the development of technologies that reduce economies of scale and increase productivity at the same time in order to improve small-scale farming."Feb 22 21:30
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schestowitz__http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgoDkwwpFx0Feb 16 00:30
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schestowitz__[14:18] <ReneAguilera> awful icons! Dr. Schestowitz, please make better icons (or at least smaller). I read tuxmachines everyday using a smartphone or a netbook (10"). Those icons are "too much"Feb 16 00:42
schestowitz__issue fixed, I shrank the iconsFeb 16 00:42
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schestowitz__[21:10] <Sosumi> sochi = germany on top, followed by switzerlandFeb 16 00:53
schestowitz__My two grandparents are from thereFeb 16 00:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.11.5 Released with Updated Apps andFeb 16 01:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Many Bugfixes http://t.co/vm5LZn21uNFeb 16 01:02
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3650560Feb 16 08:06
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNOME 3.11.5 Released with Updated Apps and Many Bugfixes  http://news.softpedia.com/news/GNOME-3-11-5-Released-with-Updated-Apps-and-Many-Bugfixes-426482.shtml #gnu #linuxFeb 16 08:06
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schestowitz__"No, thanks ;) MATE or i3 solve my computing needs."Feb 16 08:06
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3649387Feb 16 08:07
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schestowitz__"The Fukushima Cat."Feb 16 08:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What if Linus Torvalds Would Have Accepted JobFeb 16 08:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Proposal of Steve Jobs? http://t.co/twCIaGJS9wFeb 16 08:51
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TechrightsBot-trwww.tuxmachines.org | What if Linus Torvalds Would Have Accepted Job Proposal of Steve Jobs? | Tux MachinesFeb 16 08:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/hDCfXbabRjFeb 16 09:29
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DaemonFChttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/02/16/0319238/plan-9-from-bell-labs-operating-system-now-available-under-gplv2Feb 16 09:37
TechrightsBot-trtech.slashdot.org | Plan 9 From Bell Labs Operating System Now Available Under GPLv2 - Slashdot  [ http://ur1.ca/gmw2a ]Feb 16 09:37
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/74rk/status/434987288926642176Feb 16 09:48
TechrightsBot-tr@74rk: @schestowitz @kaatje36 so how do we set this up? Like tor on the existing Internet?Feb 16 09:48
schestowitz__Maybe retool the Internet, without WWW. There used to be alternatives. HTTPS not enough.Feb 16 09:48
schestowitz__Architecturally (e.g. DNS reading who you comm to, not decentralised) Pentagon-made Internet generally good for surveillanceFeb 16 09:50
schestowitz__On top of wireless network could build meshes that bypass authorities that surveil transmission and collect "metadata"; DPIFeb 16 09:51
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434988095897759744Feb 16 09:51
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk p2p perhaps?Feb 16 09:51
schestowitz__meshes, there are already attempts at it. http://techrights.org/2013/10/18/internet-and-web-are-broken/Feb 16 09:52
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Alternatives Needed to the Existing Internet, Which Turned From Tool of Self Expression and Creativity to Surveillance and Oppression | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/fwqjg ]Feb 16 09:52
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/74rk/status/434988186847424513Feb 16 09:53
TechrightsBot-tr@74rk: @schestowitz @kaatje36 how about a large, open source VPN like network on top of the existing infrastructure?Feb 16 09:53
schestowitz__You would need to hide the VPN sources http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/20/gchq_belgacom_hack_link/Feb 16 09:54
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | Latest Snowden reveal: It was GCHQ that hacked Belgian telco giant • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/gmw5l ]Feb 16 09:54
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434988569740857344Feb 16 09:55
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @74rk @schestowitz infra and hardware are the two first problems to solveFeb 16 09:55
schestowitz__hardware does not have many back doors (yet), but the s/w on it (soft) does, including some routersFeb 16 09:55
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/74rk/status/434988744719216640Feb 16 09:56
TechrightsBot-tr@74rk: @schestowitz @kaatje36 resurrection of AX25? Could be done with wifi substitute for ham radioFeb 16 09:56
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434988899945836545Feb 16 09:57
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk but isn't that useless when the hardware we're using itself contains all sorts of backdoors?Feb 16 09:57
schestowitz__In Cisco routers the backdoors are in software (can overwrite them). In hubs I think there might be manually-inserted sting.Feb 16 09:57
schestowitz__Currently, safest way to exchange messages (endpoints unknown) is meeting in person, but in UK CCTV collects "metadata"Feb 16 09:58
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434989531884814336Feb 16 09:59
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk ans how about getting round all these EU programs leading to forced identification on social security number?Feb 16 09:59
schestowitz__These are limited in capacity, requires human labourFeb 16 09:59
schestowitz__These are lesser threats to journalist (like Risen's case); no longer do journalists meet sources in parking lots and allFeb 16 10:00
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434990252185243648Feb 16 10:00
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk and how about undetectable trojans into Intel’s Ivy BridgeFeb 16 10:00
schestowitz__Oh, Intel is an easy one. Even the company's name helps reveal its attitude towards privacy. Avoid x86.Feb 16 10:01
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schestowitz__Based on Appelbaum's talk in CCC, most hardware companies targeted are x86-centric.Feb 16 10:02
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434990708907192320Feb 16 10:02
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk Okay; so for now detechnologizing may be the only answer and ofcourse stealthware :-)Feb 16 10:02
schestowitz__This is why we need to fight back against "Internet browses YOU!" trendFeb 16 10:02
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schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/Peijlstaart/status/434997468477276160Feb 16 10:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Peijlstaart: @glynmoody @schestowitz > all our mail go through the US? Why-tf? I'm sure many people do not know this.Feb 16 10:30
schestowitz__I have written about this for years because Chalmers Johnson (not deceased) spoke about itFeb 16 10:30
schestowitz__*nowFeb 16 10:30
schestowitz__but to be pedantic, it doesn't get router through US, it gets collected in bases around the world, e.g. in YorkshireFeb 16 10:31
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/434998289356697600Feb 16 10:32
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @Peijlstaart @schestowitz yes, you're right; which is why Merkel's statement is importantFeb 16 10:32
schestowitz__Email and phones register IDs at endpoints and when cross-national share this data. Needs overhaul.Feb 16 10:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Peijlstaart/status/434998765796478976Feb 16 10:33
TechrightsBot-tr@Peijlstaart: @schestowitz @glynmoody > based on what law / treaty / contract? What's going on hereFeb 16 10:33
schestowitz__That's why there are many protests there. Like UK secret courts (=hiding illegal torture), needs scrutinyFeb 16 10:34
Sosumihttp://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_02_16/Merkel-proposes-to-create-European-communication-network-that-circumvents-US-6598/Feb 16 10:42
TechrightsBot-trvoiceofrussia.com | Merkel proposes to create European communication network that circumvents US - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwdy ]Feb 16 10:42
Sosumigermany and france trying to keep all the eggs in the basket for themselvesFeb 16 10:43
Sosumibut if the project includes the UKFeb 16 10:43
Sosumithe GCHQ will just pass the info the abc agencies in the USFeb 16 10:44
Sosumi*to theFeb 16 10:44
Sosumiso, why bother?Feb 16 10:45
schestowitz__citing the Microsoft booster: http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/rethinking-android-open-source/2014-02-11Feb 16 10:47
TechrightsBot-trwww.fiercecio.com | Rethinking Android as open source - FierceCIO:TechWatch  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwew ]Feb 16 10:47
schestowitz__To make Android look bad with MS talking pointsFeb 16 10:47
schestowitz__Sosumi: Germany can't be trusted eitherFeb 16 10:47
Sosumithat was why I said "all the eggs (information) in the basket for themselves"Feb 16 10:48
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/flupzor/status/435004343108902912Feb 16 11:04
TechrightsBot-tr@flupzor: @schestowitz @meneer @kaatje36 @74rk X86 isn't implemented only by Intel(tm) CPU's. Why would you avoid X86 because of Intel?Feb 16 11:04
schestowitz__No, there are other reasons. But the technical issue is, most stuff is compiled for x86. Android changes that.Feb 16 11:04
schestowitz__http://www.elandroidelibre.com/2014/02/uno-de-cada-tres-android-esta-fuera-del-control-de-google.htmlFeb 16 11:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.elandroidelibre.com | Uno de cada tres Android está fuera del control de Google  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwjg ]Feb 16 11:08
schestowitz__The astroturf grows strong, with Microsoft-funded 'academics' and MS boosters in Ars http://techrights.org/2014/02/15/ben-edelman-microsoft/Feb 16 11:09
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Microsoft-Bribed Ben Edelman Behind Latest Smear Against Android/Linux | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwjr ]Feb 16 11:09
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/T23Tm23/status/435012052730388480Feb 16 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr@T23Tm23: @schestowitz @wikileaks better than using a pedophile for being in the news, I guess so #Assange http://t.co/YuGBYt0yzVFeb 16 11:26
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.wikileaks-forum.com | Julian Assange tries to get into the public spotlight  in  WikiLeaks related NewsFeb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meet These Women With Awesome Careers WorkingFeb 16 11:29
TweetTuxMachines                 On Linux http://t.co/mNzJjN3I74Feb 16 11:29
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TechrightsBot-trwww.tuxmachines.org | Meet These Women With Awesome Careers Working On Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 16 11:29
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schestowitz__"Schadenfreude ist die beste Freude"Feb 16 11:56
schestowitz__talking ponts http://www.zdnet.com/cisco-ceo-internet-of-things-poised-to-be-19-trillion-market-7000026321/#ftag=RSS14dc6a9Feb 16 12:00
TechrightsBot-trwww.zdnet.com | Cisco CEO: Internet of Things poised to be $19 trillion market | ZDNet  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwvc ]Feb 16 12:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Design Tools: High-end Design on aFeb 16 12:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Low-end Budget? http://t.co/KR7BOwAgjFFeb 16 12:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.tuxmachines.org | Linux Design Tools: High-end Design on a Low-end Budget? | Tux MachinesFeb 16 12:08
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Kakistocrat/status/435022258206416896Feb 16 12:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Kakistocrat: @schestowitz 1: doesn't seem to be gmail specific. 2: hasn't gmail changed recently to hosting image attachments internally for this reason?Feb 16 12:48
schestowitz__That might be OKFeb 16 12:48
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651429Feb 16 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Data protection: Angela #Merkel proposes #Europe network http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26210053 but would Merkel then abuse it for #surveillance advantage?Feb 16 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Data protection: Angela Merkel proposes Europe network  [ http://ur1.ca/gmx64 ]Feb 16 12:59
schestowitz__"Only trust your own solutions. That's it."Feb 16 12:59
Sosumilawrence livermore lab is where the new fusion developments have been made atFeb 16 12:59
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651253Feb 16 12:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #voluntaryism #anarchism #anarcho-capitalism #anti-statism #visforvoluntary #voluntary #fuckthepoliceFeb 16 12:59
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schestowitz__"Yeah! like that one."Feb 16 12:59
Sosumiand not princetonFeb 16 12:59
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651193Feb 16 13:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: I'm glad they're _finally_ doing this somewhere.Feb 16 13:01
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schestowitz__"Awesome!"Feb 16 13:01
Sosumihttp://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140127/NEWS08/301270013/U-S-resumes-nonlethal-aid-Syrian-oppositionFeb 16 13:18
TechrightsBot-trwww.militarytimes.com | U.S. resumes nonlethal aid to Syrian opposition | Military Times | militarytimes.com  [ http://ur1.ca/gmx9q ]Feb 16 13:18
Sosumiwhich includes....Feb 16 13:19
Sosumihttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bgl5UWYCQAEY7Bj.png:largeFeb 16 13:19
Sosumiapple computers!!!!!Feb 16 13:19
SosumilawlFeb 16 13:19
Sosumiapple computers to jihadisFeb 16 13:19
Sosumiyour tax dollars at workFeb 16 13:19
Sosumiwith that faceFeb 16 13:21
SosumiI wonder if the bearded jihadi is contemplating a render of the 72 virgins expecting him on the other sideFeb 16 13:22
MinceRgeekingsFeb 16 13:44
SosumiMinceR, have you seen my last link?Feb 16 14:04
MinceRyesFeb 16 14:04
Sosumiinteresting isn't it?Feb 16 14:05
Sosumiwhen I saw it on my twitter feed I was about to split my tea on the screenFeb 16 14:05
MinceRdidn't surprise meFeb 16 14:07
MinceRsuch evil cults often go together :>Feb 16 14:07
Sosumi:)Feb 16 14:07
MinceRas for the job offer article, it ignores the fact that Linux has already gained momentum on 2000 and a lot of people were working on itFeb 16 14:10
MinceRand the article fails to credit them properlyFeb 16 14:10
MinceRs/ on / in /Feb 16 14:10
SosumiI remember back in those days some computer magazines (portuguese ones)Feb 16 14:12
Sosumiwere always bundling gnu/linux with themFeb 16 14:12
Sosumialongside with the video game demos, freeware that they used to includeFeb 16 14:13
SosumiI don't think they do that anymoreFeb 16 14:16
Sosumiand many of those magazines aren't around anymoreFeb 16 14:16
MinceRIT journalism died in hungary a long time agoFeb 16 14:17
Sosumimany in fact, were supplanted by "pink magazines"Feb 16 14:17
Sosumiwhich talk about "telenovelas" and supertardsFeb 16 14:17
MinceRthe magazines that were worth buying were taken over by publishers and staff who didn't know what they were doingFeb 16 14:17
Sosumi*superstarsFeb 16 14:17
MinceR"supertard" works for meFeb 16 14:18
Sosumi:)Feb 16 14:18
gde33I've always been amazed by how easy google deletes your account over youtube tos violations.Feb 16 14:24
Sosumia solution for thatFeb 16 14:24
MinceRdon't share videos on youtube? :>Feb 16 14:25
Sosumiis having different accounts under multiple personasFeb 16 14:25
Sosumiif one is taken downFeb 16 14:25
gde33it is more interesting than that, the tos holds that they will ban you without providing a reason.Feb 16 14:25
Sosumiyou jus hop into another oneFeb 16 14:25
gde33and such a ban includes your android phone or osFeb 16 14:25
Sosumithus losing access to even programs paid with cash?Feb 16 14:26
gde33yesFeb 16 14:26
gde33and your adsense earnings, advertisement money, search featuresFeb 16 14:26
gde33the worksFeb 16 14:26
Sosumione more reason for having other accounts for publishing stuff on youtubeFeb 16 14:26
Sosumiit sucks, but hey no one ever said the world was a fair place ;)Feb 16 14:28
Sosumiand if ppl don't pressure google, not much is going to changeFeb 16 14:29
gde33well noFeb 16 14:29
gde33they want you to use your real name for an accountFeb 16 14:29
gde33if you play by the rules the whole thing can blow up in your faceFeb 16 14:29
gde33it is arguably designed to do thatFeb 16 14:29
gde33the thing I hate most about the toss is having to fucking check every video I've posted on my website.Feb 16 14:30
gde33the accounts with many videos are the ones with the interesting videosFeb 16 14:30
gde33if you have a few thousand youtube videos on your website it quickly turns into a sort of graveyardFeb 16 14:31
gde33I'm supper bored with that taskFeb 16 14:33
gde33the same video is on the site 1000 timesFeb 16 14:33
gde33but I had to post the one that was terminated hahaFeb 16 14:34
MinceRi wish people just linked to videos on plain http with some reasonable container and codecsFeb 16 14:34
MinceRinstead of hiding them behind flash players and html5Feb 16 14:34
gde33I always include the username and a html link :)Feb 16 14:35
gde33have links   user > videoFeb 16 14:35
gde33reminds me of a funny effectFeb 16 14:35
gde33google buys a service but they always have undocumented featuresFeb 16 14:36
gde33if you search and try hard enough you can find all sorts of functionality even google doesnt know aboutFeb 16 14:36
gde33like undocumented blogger tagsFeb 16 14:36
gde33youtube rss feedsFeb 16 14:36
MinceR:)Feb 16 14:37
gde33there use to be html search results under http://google.com/ieFeb 16 14:38
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gde33just vanilla linksFeb 16 14:39
gde33http://wayback.archive.org/web/20050828133056/http://www.google.com/ieFeb 16 14:40
TechrightsBot-trwayback.archive.org | Google Results:  [ http://ur1.ca/gmxq1 ]Feb 16 14:40
MinceRyeah, scroogle used thatFeb 16 14:41
gde33it was incredubly dumb to change from do no evil to the internet trollFeb 16 14:42
gde33in the EU the troll is just taxed to deathFeb 16 14:42
MinceRindeedFeb 16 14:42
gde33they aren't going to win anything with itFeb 16 14:43
MinceRit might have been the prerequisite for the megacorporation/two-party/government complex to let them surviveFeb 16 14:43
gde33they are not going to win anything with it either :/Feb 16 14:44
gde33they should have been happy with the information controlFeb 16 14:44
gde33that is arguably the most valuable to the megacorpFeb 16 14:45
gde33they could chose how much tax they wanted to pay in FranceFeb 16 14:47
gde33how can you spoil an opportunity like that?Feb 16 14:47
gde33LOLFeb 16 14:47
gde33when they wanted to not pay any taxes it changed into 1 billion dollarsFeb 16 14:47
gde33or wait no, 1 billion euroFeb 16 14:47
gde33they should have had some analist figure out that france is under a lot of pressure from the eu to get under the 3% deficitFeb 16 14:49
gde33Google's Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt said attempts to force technology companies to pay more tax could stymie innovation.Feb 16 14:51
gde33what does he mean attempts?Feb 16 14:51
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gde33I just want to use his services for everythingFeb 16 14:55
gde33They paid the french €5.5 million in 2011 lolFeb 16 14:59
gde33not sure what this means, sounds funny: Google and other big Internet companies keep the money in Bermuda. $1,400 billion are stuck there.Feb 16 15:03
Sosumilike I said,Feb 16 15:26
Sosumiuse fake personasFeb 16 15:26
Sosumigoogle has no way to prove that persona x is a fakeFeb 16 15:26
Sosumiunless that is, someone rats you outFeb 16 15:26
MinceRthey don't need to, they can shut down any account without providing a reasonFeb 16 15:27
MinceRisn't fog computing fun?Feb 16 15:27
Sosumibut that is the point, you then continue your activity on another accountFeb 16 15:27
Sosumiand nop fog computing isn't funFeb 16 15:28
XFaCESosumi:  then access each account in a KVMFeb 16 15:52
SosumiKVM?Feb 16 15:53
Sosumior behind a vpn or proxyFeb 16 15:53
Sosumiso google doesn't know that all the accounts are being accessed from the same ipFeb 16 15:53
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gde33I would rather pay a fine or somethingFeb 16 16:11
schestowitz__gde33: http://wayback.archive.org/web/20111102115255/http://www.google.com/toolbar/ie8/sidebar.html ?Feb 16 16:22
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gde33schestowitz__: what are we looking at?Feb 16 16:24
schestowitz__http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140127/NEWS08/301270013/U-S-resumes-nonlethal-aid-Syrian-oppositionFeb 16 16:24
TechrightsBot-trwww.militarytimes.com | U.S. resumes nonlethal aid to Syrian opposition | Military Times | militarytimes.com  [ http://ur1.ca/gmx9q ]Feb 16 16:24
schestowitz__Military booster pretends there were never weapons sentFeb 16 16:24
gde33schestowitz__: I'm not understanding :PFeb 16 16:25
schestowitz__you pointed at Web ArchiveFeb 16 16:26
schestowitz__Google.com/ieFeb 16 16:26
gde33yeah?Feb 16 16:26
schestowitz__I assume you wanted to show they recommend ChromeFeb 16 16:26
schestowitz__But the page you linked at did not have relevant contentsFeb 16 16:27
gde33no no, I wanted to show the pure html version of google searchFeb 16 16:27
schestowitz__"pure"?Feb 16 16:27
gde33it use to be awesome, it showed only link anchors with the page title without descriptionsFeb 16 16:27
schestowitz__They make a mess of HTML since ages agoFeb 16 16:27
schestowitz__like one line nonsense of non-conforming codeFeb 16 16:28
schestowitz__that only works well under parricular cincumstancesFeb 16 16:28
schestowitz__I recall chatting about this in USENET as far back as 2004 or 05Feb 16 16:28
schestowitz__and yes, you could load 100 results as title onlyFeb 16 16:28
gde33I would for example copy the results into a html editorFeb 16 16:28
schestowitz__Some years ago it stopped workingFeb 16 16:28
gde33then delete the crapFeb 16 16:29
gde33yeahFeb 16 16:29
schestowitz__and instead it redicrected to some page about IE or ChromeFeb 16 16:29
gde33indeedFeb 16 16:29
schestowitz__So you use it tooFeb 16 16:29
schestowitz__up to 100 results IIRCFeb 16 16:29
schestowitz__Not good for their ads business modelFeb 16 16:29
gde33it was specially awesome in maxthon and myie2Feb 16 16:29
gde33you could select a bunch of text in myie2 then drag it 1 cmFeb 16 16:30
gde33and it would open all the links in the text selectionFeb 16 16:30
gde33web pages didnt have a ton of js cruft at the timeFeb 16 16:30
gde33could easily open the 100 linksFeb 16 16:30
gde33mouse gestures to move to the next tab with or without closing the current oneFeb 16 16:31
gde33like a rocket ship compared to what the web is nowFeb 16 16:31
gde33afkFeb 16 16:32
iophkWeb without js crap is amazingly fast.Feb 16 16:33
msb_Do you folks all know about the youtube-dl program that can download all youtube videos, even the VEVO and other censored ones?Feb 16 16:36
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gde33msb_: I havent seen one that just plays the video without popup dialogsFeb 16 17:05
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msb_gde33: http://youtube-dl.org/  and  http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/Feb 16 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-youtube-dl.org | youtube-dlFeb 16 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rg3.github.io | youtube-dlFeb 16 17:15
msb_It doesn't play the video, but it downloads them with very low cpu usage.Feb 16 17:15
gde33right, I can see the author isnt a savi UI designerFeb 16 17:16
msb_And if the download slows down or stops, which it often does (also with Firefox/VideoDownloader), you just Ctrl-C out of it and repeat the command and it continues where it left off, but with original high speed.Feb 16 17:17
gde33I use this one http://eusing-free-youtube-downloader-converter.en.softonic.com/Feb 16 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eusing-free-youtube-downloader-converter.en.softonic.com | Eusing Free YouTube Downloader Converter - Download [ http://ur1.ca/gmyl2 ]Feb 16 17:17
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msb_gde33: Does it run in Linux?Feb 16 17:20
gde33dont think soFeb 16 17:21
gde33I assume on linux your cache folder isnt locked?Feb 16 17:21
msb_Then what good is it?  8^)Feb 16 17:21
gde33a good tool would salvage the flash video from thereFeb 16 17:21
msb_On Linux nothing is locked (to root).Feb 16 17:22
gde33I'm still waiting for the awesome linux distroFeb 16 17:22
msb_I use OpenSuse -- very well engineered, and still offers KDE3.Feb 16 17:22
gde33I dont want to have to learn how to switch on my computer and no command lines :PFeb 16 17:23
msb_youtube-dl downloads from the website, not the cache.Feb 16 17:23
msb_Runs on python, so all platforms.Feb 16 17:23
gde33extra points for installing under windowsFeb 16 17:24
gde33typing my admin password more than 1 time per year is not acceptable.Feb 16 17:25
gde33I'm oldskool I use concreet walls and doors for security lolFeb 16 17:26
msb_The youtube-dl authors are superb command-line programmers.  That thing has every option you could want, and the default name it gives the video file is the youtube title, the youtube 11-char ID, and the format, e.g., .mp4.  What I've been naming them for years, so you can always go back to the youtube page, if it's still there.Feb 16 17:38
msb_The continuation feature is great, can cut download time from hours to a few minutes.Feb 16 17:39
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651775Feb 16 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 16 17:43
roy_"That's quite funny, I admit."Feb 16 17:43
roy_http://blog.braegger.pw/5-ways-to-burn-out-programming/Feb 16 17:57
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roy_http://lwn.net/Articles/585363/rssFeb 16 18:04
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roy_http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/10/oracle_and_pluribus_swap_ideas_on_cisco_sdn_killer/Feb 16 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Oracle and Pluribus team up, flip the switch on Cisco SDN killer • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gmyvr ]Feb 16 18:15
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DaemonFCI managed to convince the shoe store to sell me an $80 pair of shoes for $60.Feb 16 19:17
DaemonFCOne of their employees put the wrong sign on the shelf and so the manager just told the cashier to ring me up for $60. B-) It's nice when stuff like that happens.Feb 16 19:17
Sosumiwhere were the shoes made?Feb 16 19:18
DaemonFCIndonesia apparently.Feb 16 19:18
SosumilolFeb 16 19:18
Sosumiand they still asked 60$ for them?Feb 16 19:19
Sosumiwhat a stealFeb 16 19:19
DaemonFCYeah. They don't cost much to make.Feb 16 19:19
DaemonFCI used to work in a shoe warehouse.Feb 16 19:19
DaemonFCNothing but Chinese-made shoes, day in, day out, 8-12 hours a day.Feb 16 19:20
DaemonFCI don't know what it cost to make them, but I know that some of them retailed for $100 or more.Feb 16 19:22
DaemonFCOnce a month, they'd let the employees buy anything that was overstock or returned for minor defects for $5 a pair.Feb 16 19:22
DaemonFCI made some money on the side buying those and then selling them on Craigslist.Feb 16 19:23
Sosumi:)Feb 16 19:23
DaemonFCI'd usually be able to buy at least 4-5 pair of shoes each month for $20-$25 total, and then turn around and make $200 off of them.Feb 16 19:23
qu1j0t3ALMOST LIKE A REAL BUSINESSFeb 16 19:24
Sosuminew hypeFeb 16 19:25
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: the real money is to pay 5c for the shoe then sell at $100. just sayiinFeb 16 19:25
Sosumihttp://rt.com/news/piracy-eu-download-films-211/Feb 16 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gmz7y ]Feb 16 19:25
Sosumi"Nearly 70% of Europeans download, stream films ‘without paying’ – EC study"Feb 16 19:25
Sosuminow I knows were the european commission is wasting my tax moneyFeb 16 19:26
Sosumiin some dumb studiesFeb 16 19:26
DaemonFCI doubt that each pair cost them more than $10 in total.Feb 16 19:27
DaemonFCFrom production, to shipping, to warehousing, to the store, and then to the customer.Feb 16 19:27
DaemonFCShoes are a high profit item.Feb 16 19:27
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: wait until you meet fake eyelashesFeb 16 19:27
DaemonFChttp://www.spine-health.com/forum/treatment/back-surgery-and-neck-surgery/brown-cow-anyoneFeb 16 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spine-health.com | Brown Cow anyone? [ http://ur1.ca/gmz9e ]Feb 16 19:38
DaemonFChehFeb 16 19:38
DaemonFCThose do work. After I had a really bad seizure a few years ago, I also became constipated, so I mixed a tall glass of prune juice with a dose of milk of magnesia. Feb 16 19:38
qu1j0t3good to knowFeb 16 19:47
iophkhttp://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/02/16/why-have-you-gone-to-russia-three-times-in-two-months-heathrow-border-agent-interrogates-snowden-lawyer/Feb 16 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dissenter.firedoglake.com | ‘Why Have You Gone to Russia Three Times in Two Months?’—Heathrow Customs Agent Interrogates Snowden Lawyer | The Dissenter [ http://ur1.ca/gmzo2 ]Feb 16 20:44
iophkhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140213/16525726218/widow-sues-la-sheriffs-dept-after-her-80-year-old-husband-is-killed-during-search-drugs-that-werent-actually-there.shtmlFeb 16 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | Widow Sues LA Sheriff's Dept. After Her 80-Year-Old Husband Is Killed During A Search For Drugs That Weren't Actually There | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/gmzol ]Feb 16 20:48
gde33Sosumi: no it is good, I told them to inform themselvesFeb 16 20:50
gde33Sosumi: It is important they understand that there is nothing they can do about itFeb 16 20:51
gde33at best they can persecute a few childrenFeb 16 20:51
gde33and create a black marketFeb 16 20:52
Sosumigde33, if I record a fart and stream it to the bathroomFeb 16 20:52
Sosumishould I have to pay?Feb 16 20:52
gde33you misunderstandFeb 16 20:52
DaemonFCWhen I was at the shoe store, I saw some of the brands I used to warehouse, pick, and pack.Feb 16 20:52
gde33the EU is ran by old peopleFeb 16 20:52
gde33they want to listen to the recording megacorpFeb 16 20:52
gde33do what they are told to doFeb 16 20:52
DaemonFCUnpleasant job, but it paid better than Walmart, which is why I quit Walmart. :PFeb 16 20:52
gde33but if they inform themselvesFeb 16 20:53
Sosumibecause that is what they kind of hittingFeb 16 20:53
gde33they can see that doing what the corporatards want is not going to produce resultsFeb 16 20:53
Sosumithat youy should pay to stream stuff that you probablyFeb 16 20:53
Sosumialready ownFeb 16 20:53
gde33we have the travenling sales man all firgured out, you take the portable hd to your friends house and TB's of data transfer in 20 min, on a bicycle.Feb 16 20:54
Sosumibut the terms of use deny you the streamingFeb 16 20:54
Sosumiplus with kind of movies that come out todayFeb 16 20:55
SosumiI think I should be the one being paid to watch themFeb 16 20:55
gde33lol it's all crapFeb 16 20:55
gde33the streaming stuff is about service providersFeb 16 20:56
gde33they can do something about thoseFeb 16 20:56
Sosumilike confining streaming to services like netflix?Feb 16 20:57
gde33you cant monetize itFeb 16 20:57
gde33that is the ideaFeb 16 20:57
qu1j0t3   Sosumi | plus with kind of movies that come out today            Feb 16 20:58
qu1j0t3   Sosumi | I think I should be the one being paid to watch them    Feb 16 20:58
qu1j0t3amenFeb 16 20:58
Sosumiwell you can't monetize if users break the DRM, convert the movie to h264 and stream via DLNA to say, their tvsFeb 16 20:58
SosumiI think that is the issueFeb 16 20:59
Sosumiwith the crappywood and the copywrong cartelFeb 16 20:59
gde33they dont care about that, they only aim to stop businesses from building a model based on "stealing"Feb 16 20:59
Sosumibut the issue is streamingFeb 16 21:00
gde33streaming TV programsFeb 16 21:00
Sosumieven if you were to build a business on sayFeb 16 21:00
Sosumia virtual video clubFeb 16 21:00
Sosumiyou'd still need to buy the moviesFeb 16 21:00
gde33yesFeb 16 21:01
Sosumiwith a specific streaming licenseFeb 16 21:01
gde33that must all dieFeb 16 21:01
Sosumionly for the sake of the copywrong mafiaFeb 16 21:01
gde33only people who make music or movies have an argument for a business modelFeb 16 21:02
gde33the rest must all be destroyed :DFeb 16 21:02
Sosumibut they usually create the content and rely on a publisher for distributionFeb 16 21:02
Sosumiand those are actually the problemFeb 16 21:03
Sosumieven after the death of the artist they continue monetisation of the workFeb 16 21:03
gde33the problem is that people dont play instruments and dont sing their own songsFeb 16 21:03
Sosumiinstead of releasing it to public domainFeb 16 21:03
MinceRalso, some "artists" go public with MAFIAA bullshit, spouting from their own pie-holesFeb 16 21:04
MinceRoccasionally heading MAFIAA shell organizationsFeb 16 21:04
MinceR(like artisjus in hungaristan)Feb 16 21:05
SosumisadFeb 16 21:05
gde33To be honest, what I find important is that we dig up all the lost technology for healthcare and energy production, and use existing technology to educate engineers and visionariesFeb 16 21:08
gde33the rest can all be burned for as far as I'm consideredFeb 16 21:09
gde33make it as draconian as possibleFeb 16 21:09
gde33lolFeb 16 21:09
MinceRmight be humanity will burn itselfFeb 16 21:09
gde33humanity can take a bit of burningFeb 16 21:09
Sosumithe birthing of a breakaway society...Feb 16 21:09
gde33you want that?Feb 16 21:10
MinceRmight be our only chance to preserve minds against the idiocracyFeb 16 21:10
gde33I can make that if you want, not even kidding.Feb 16 21:10
Sosumiyes, simply because it'd introduce a degree of variance in societyFeb 16 21:11
Sosumileading to different pathsFeb 16 21:11
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Sosumiyou'd end up with one dedicated to advancement of the species and the pursuit of knowledgeFeb 16 21:12
Sosumias main focusFeb 16 21:12
gde33haha only it wont look that wayFeb 16 21:12
gde33it will be a society of serious slackersFeb 16 21:13
Sosumiand another that focus only in pleasuring itselfFeb 16 21:13
Sosumiwith mindless distractionsFeb 16 21:13
gde33It would be cool to crowd fund a country with a bunch of nerdsFeb 16 21:13
qu1j0t3hmFeb 16 21:14
qu1j0t3libertarian nerds?Feb 16 21:14
MinceRtoo bad the fundies would immediately scream for a war to exterminate the nerdsFeb 16 21:14
gde33I like Bir TawilFeb 16 21:14
Sosumiwe'd need to raise enough cash to buy a greek island thenFeb 16 21:14
gde33qu1j0t3: ideology doesnt matter if you start overFeb 16 21:14
gde33the fat leaches stay behindFeb 16 21:14
qu1j0t3i, uh. ok.Feb 16 21:14
qu1j0t3yeah that'll totally workFeb 16 21:14
gde33Sosumi: something like thatFeb 16 21:15
qu1j0t3it worked in the USA, after all! a whole almost-empty continentFeb 16 21:15
qu1j0t3they checked the passenger list, no leechesFeb 16 21:15
gde33Buying a bit of the us to start your own country would be expensiveFeb 16 21:15
qu1j0t3you're missing my point. they sent some nerds over to settle the USAFeb 16 21:16
qu1j0t3terra nulliusFeb 16 21:16
gde33yes, the monopoly gamers stayed behindFeb 16 21:16
qu1j0t3yeah, they left the Pope, etc, behindFeb 16 21:16
gde33exactlyFeb 16 21:16
qu1j0t3just a bunch of puritansFeb 16 21:16
MinceRthey sent some other cults insteadFeb 16 21:16
qu1j0t3and it totally workedFeb 16 21:16
MinceRwho were all the sameFeb 16 21:16
qu1j0t3the USA is the perfect society nowFeb 16 21:16
gde33lots of people just dont careFeb 16 21:17
MinceRthey didn't like the catholics oppressing them but they were just fine with themselves oppressing othersFeb 16 21:17
qu1j0t3gde33: Antarctica might be the goFeb 16 21:17
gde33you cant do democracy with people who dont careFeb 16 21:17
MinceRonce we manage to melt all the ice? :>Feb 16 21:17
gde33Bit TawilFeb 16 21:17
qu1j0t3MinceR: won't be long :DFeb 16 21:17
gde33Bit Tawil such a hell hole it's funnyFeb 16 21:17
gde33Some sort of flexible crowd funding where you prommise to pay when it endsFeb 16 21:18
gde33let it run for 15 yearsFeb 16 21:18
gde33just as long as we dont have equalityFeb 16 21:18
gde33hitler is not ghandiFeb 16 21:18
gde33I have a grand vision for civilian ranksFeb 16 21:20
gde33ranks with special privilagesFeb 16 21:20
gde33in stead of wealthFeb 16 21:20
qu1j0t3like Star Trek?Feb 16 21:20
gde33if your rank is high enough you are not allowed to have moneyFeb 16 21:20
qu1j0t3Star Trek proves this worksFeb 16 21:20
gde33:DFeb 16 21:20
gde33we take all your money and make you a civil generalFeb 16 21:21
gde33people should admire you for thatFeb 16 21:21
qu1j0t3and they donate food?Feb 16 21:21
gde33a great honor to have you as a guestFeb 16 21:21
gde33it doesnt matter what we give them, just as long as they dont suck up all the moneyFeb 16 21:22
qu1j0t3"look at him, he's a general, so awful to have him crawling in the gutter like that, here have some fries"Feb 16 21:22
qu1j0t3yeah i'd totally volunteerFeb 16 21:22
gde33give them a huge house Feb 16 21:22
qu1j0t3how you going to pay for the house?Feb 16 21:22
qu1j0t3or is land free too?Feb 16 21:22
qu1j0t3and labour?Feb 16 21:22
qu1j0t3or you just confiscate it from non-generals?Feb 16 21:22
gde33we take all their money if they reach 500 mFeb 16 21:23
qu1j0t3hm...Feb 16 21:23
gde33then you've won the gameFeb 16 21:23
qu1j0t3what if they take their 500 m right out of your country?Feb 16 21:23
qu1j0t3this never happens int he real world of courseFeb 16 21:23
gde33it should be worth every pennyFeb 16 21:23
MinceRdoesn't sound like a good idea at allFeb 16 21:23
gde33you can still build more credentialsFeb 16 21:23
gde33in stead of more wealthFeb 16 21:24
gde33500 m is entry levelFeb 16 21:24
qu1j0t3so at 500 m , all your money is confiscated, and you get a certificate?Feb 16 21:24
qu1j0t3who runs the house?Feb 16 21:24
gde33robots ofc!Feb 16 21:24
gde33fembotsFeb 16 21:24
qu1j0t3i... cFeb 16 21:24
SosumiI think you guys are sweeting it too muchFeb 16 21:25
gde33it is not depressing enough?Feb 16 21:25
Sosumijust transplant the US as it was initially thought out by the founding fathersFeb 16 21:25
gde33you dont have to come with us, you can just stay behind in lala landFeb 16 21:25
Sosumiand run it in a Hamiltonian fashionFeb 16 21:25
Sosumimuch simpler and effectiveFeb 16 21:25
qu1j0t3just mark it clearly on a map so that i can keep the fuck awayFeb 16 21:26
qu1j0t3whatever you nerds figure outFeb 16 21:26
gde33qu1j0t3: we can give them personel for the house but they will have to earn that of courseFeb 16 21:26
MinceRslaves?Feb 16 21:26
gde33employeesFeb 16 21:26
gde33paid for by the stateFeb 16 21:26
qu1j0t3gde33: by 'house' i mean, the casino, the state that has the power to confiscate all your money and issue certificates allowing you to beg for foodFeb 16 21:27
DaemonFCLiberia's government was modeled after ours. I think that proves that simply having an American-style of government doesn't mean prosperity.Feb 16 21:27
Sosumiit depends on how you run the country afterwardsFeb 16 21:27
gde33qu1j0t3: imagining something that doens't work is easyFeb 16 21:27
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: or, just ask 90% of americansFeb 16 21:27
gde33qu1j0t3: and senselessFeb 16 21:27
qu1j0t3gde33: tell me about it!Feb 16 21:27
gde33you think you can take my grand vision and poke holes in it from the armchair Feb 16 21:28
gde33but that is exactly what we will be abandoningFeb 16 21:28
gde33we leave all those people who can imagine things going wrong behindFeb 16 21:28
qu1j0t3yesFeb 16 21:28
qu1j0t3good luck and allFeb 16 21:28
gde33we only bring people who can imagine how to make things workFeb 16 21:28
qu1j0t3or, just write a bookFeb 16 21:28
gde33just like in muricaFeb 16 21:28
qu1j0t3"NEW COUNTRY. GREAT PEOPLE WELCOME. NO LOSERS"Feb 16 21:29
gde33NO LOSERS!Feb 16 21:29
qu1j0t3how you going to buy the land?Feb 16 21:29
gde33big sign by the borderFeb 16 21:29
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qu1j0t3"ABILITY TO PLAY BASS GUITAR AN ASSET."Feb 16 21:29
MinceRbut how will you leave reality itself behind when it won't let things work? :>Feb 16 21:29
gde33Bir Tawil is not claimedFeb 16 21:29
Sosumiask Jenny to print the money?Feb 16 21:29
qu1j0t3MinceR: you are just poking holes in it from your armchairFeb 16 21:29
MinceRnopeFeb 16 21:29
qu1j0t3MinceR: you're the kind of person who won't be invited!Feb 16 21:29
MinceRthis chair has no armsFeb 16 21:29
MinceR:>Feb 16 21:29
gde33MinceR: yeah, as if doom thinkers have a patent on reality, dont make me laughFeb 16 21:29
qu1j0t3MinceR: does it go round in circles like this one?Feb 16 21:30
MinceRgde33: nobody doesFeb 16 21:30
qu1j0t3MinceR: this one has WHEELSFeb 16 21:30
gde33what if you fall on your face and break your nose?Feb 16 21:30
gde33what then?Feb 16 21:30
gde33hahaFeb 16 21:30
MinceRqu1j0t3: this one has wheels tooFeb 16 21:30
qu1j0t3gde33: well, i'm in canada, so i go to the hospital.Feb 16 21:30
MinceRlolFeb 16 21:30
qu1j0t3gde33: ymmvFeb 16 21:30
gde33what if you have a country full of lusers, how make democracy work?Feb 16 21:31
gde33nothing good will come of itFeb 16 21:31
MinceRi think if you moved into Bir Tawil and claimed it, sunddenly both Egypt and Sudan would both realize they both want it a lotFeb 16 21:31
MinceRs/undd/udd/Feb 16 21:31
gde33yeah, you are a fine doom thinkerFeb 16 21:31
gde33they will be so upset over that bit of sand Feb 16 21:32
gde33just machine gun themFeb 16 21:32
gde33easy enoughFeb 16 21:32
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_MinervaFeb 16 21:32
gde33no lusers remember?Feb 16 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Minerva Reefs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gmzxd ]Feb 16 21:32
gde33I can hear you thinking already, what if the sun doesnt set?Feb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3gde33: you shoot the losers.Feb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3gde33: history tells us this is a very popular solution.Feb 16 21:33
gde33ofc, in the face from the hipFeb 16 21:33
gde33lolFeb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3and it totally worksFeb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3look aroundFeb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3all the countries that shot their losers are thrivingFeb 16 21:33
gde33it is what got us here!Feb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3we lost the losers so many times we lost countFeb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3there can't be any left nowFeb 16 21:33
gde33I live in the Netherlands, we did a great job looting everythingFeb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3you starve them, like palestiniansFeb 16 21:33
qu1j0t3gde33: i doubt there are any losers in the netherlandsFeb 16 21:34
qu1j0t3gde33: not after wwii anywayFeb 16 21:34
gde33lots of them, arguably it is full of drones hereFeb 16 21:34
qu1j0t3how do you spot them?Feb 16 21:34
qu1j0t3do they wear a helpful yellow star or something?Feb 16 21:34
qu1j0t3maybe you can tattoo the losersFeb 16 21:35
MinceRlolFeb 16 21:35
qu1j0t3so that they don't board the plane to your nerdtopiaFeb 16 21:35
gde33they have huge social support, then you propose business models to them and they look at you like puppies, as if they are poor.Feb 16 21:35
Sosumihttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560494/Worlds-largest-solar-farm-SCORCHING-BIRDS-fly-it.htmlFeb 16 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | World's largest solar farm is SCORCHING BIRDS that fly over it | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gmzxo ]Feb 16 21:35
gde33then they cry about not being able to get a jobFeb 16 21:35
qu1j0t3yeah, they're draining the welfare stateFeb 16 21:35
gde33that is because no one is hiringFeb 16 21:35
Sosumiinvest in real alternativesFeb 16 21:35
qu1j0t3they've always been a burden on humanityFeb 16 21:35
Sosumilike fusionFeb 16 21:35
qu1j0t3on good peopleFeb 16 21:35
gde33because no one is starting anythingFeb 16 21:35
qu1j0t3gde33: you should find a way to convert the losers into food for your nation of winnersFeb 16 21:36
qu1j0t3gde33: food, soap, hair carpets and suchFeb 16 21:36
gde33we have like 5% geniuses and the rest all dronesFeb 16 21:36
qu1j0t3gde33: i know, right?Feb 16 21:36
gde33I was thinking biogasFeb 16 21:36
gde33big tankFeb 16 21:36
gde33put them all insideFeb 16 21:36
qu1j0t3yeah gasFeb 16 21:37
Sosumiinstead of bird slicing (windfarms) and now, scorching, "sillynesses"Feb 16 21:37
qu1j0t3a historically sound choiceFeb 16 21:37
gde33but I will make it easy not to be a looserFeb 16 21:37
qu1j0t3gde33: what if being a loser is fractal thoughFeb 16 21:37
qu1j0t3gde33: what if you take your 5% geniuses, and find out that 95% of them are losers, relative to the nerdtopia?Feb 16 21:37
MinceRor you could pyrolyse themFeb 16 21:38
MinceRor make biodiesel from themFeb 16 21:38
qu1j0t3extract the gold fillings firstFeb 16 21:38
qu1j0t3all that wealth they aren't entitled toFeb 16 21:38
gde33I will probably end up in the biogas production apparatus myself. That will justify all my deeds.Feb 16 21:38
gde33Make a nice speech about a good death.Feb 16 21:39
gde33tell people to take good care of themselves, and remember, no loosers!Feb 16 21:39
qu1j0t3oh, no, i'm sure you'll be hailed as the visionary you areFeb 16 21:39
qu1j0t3no lonely suicide in a bunker for youFeb 16 21:39
gde33shitFeb 16 21:39
gde33then I will spend my days facepalming, it is all the same to me.Feb 16 21:40
gde33the only real point I have is that it is easy to shut down your imagination with a doom cenario that will never happen.Feb 16 21:40
qu1j0t3what doom scenario?Feb 16 21:40
MinceRyou build a pair of teleporters and demons come pouring out of bothFeb 16 21:41
qu1j0t3there are no flaws in your planFeb 16 21:41
gde33the one imagined by the loosers ofcFeb 16 21:41
MinceRand take over your basesFeb 16 21:41
MinceR:>Feb 16 21:41
gde33no need teliport, use remote controlled fembotsFeb 16 21:41
qu1j0t3your plan is perfect. Take 1 million people. Remove all the losers. Start afresh in a new, verdant land.Feb 16 21:41
gde33streaming techFeb 16 21:41
qu1j0t3it cannot CANNOT failFeb 16 21:41
gde33the loosers dont need removing, they are terrified by the idea aloneFeb 16 21:42
qu1j0t3well yes, the intelligent onesFeb 16 21:42
gde33just the idea to do something ambitiousFeb 16 21:42
gde33that has to be the most terrifying thing in the gallaxyFeb 16 21:42
qu1j0t3so you should start advertising.Feb 16 21:42
qu1j0t3but i'm just curious where all this land isFeb 16 21:42
qu1j0t3that y'all are goin gto live onFeb 16 21:42
gde33depends on the budgetFeb 16 21:42
qu1j0t3how much hav eyou raised?Feb 16 21:42
qu1j0t3Manhattan's not as cheap as it used to beFeb 16 21:43
gde33underground is goodFeb 16 21:43
gde33just start digging under the houseFeb 16 21:43
gde33lolFeb 16 21:43
qu1j0t3bunkerFeb 16 21:44
MinceRgde33: i don't remember any fembots from DoomFeb 16 21:44
gde33freefight as the national sportsFeb 16 21:45
gde33think of bitcoin, the nerd money is going to ponzi like a naked clown on a speedboatFeb 16 21:46
gde33money backed by loosers didnt workFeb 16 21:46
gde33that was just boo hoo national debt, we can never pay for this, boo hooo *insert imaginary doom cenario*Feb 16 21:47
qu1j0t3watFeb 16 21:48
qu1j0t3gde33: i assume all the alpha-members of your society will have 'ranting on irc' as their main activity?Feb 16 21:49
qu1j0t3cuz that's not something losers do amiriteFeb 16 21:49
gde33alphalalandFeb 16 21:49
gde33how dare you call my utopia ranting :PFeb 16 21:50
gde33real time elections would be coolFeb 16 21:53
gde33if the politician starts talking dumb shit you just click the red button behind his nameFeb 16 21:54
gde333 min later he is on the streetFeb 16 21:54
gde33ohh copyright law, RIGHT, click.... *the end*Feb 16 21:54
gde33that was easy?Feb 16 21:54
gde33but first you have to get the voting diplomaFeb 16 21:55
gde33volentary taxesFeb 16 21:55
gde33brain scan the politicians before useFeb 16 21:56
gde33see if all parts of the brain are really workingFeb 16 21:57
gde33the lizard guy might not be a looser, he isnt a good leaderFeb 16 21:57
*qu1j0t3 nods, edges to the channel exitFeb 16 21:59
gde33lolFeb 16 22:01
gde33http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrVe7jJE__MFeb 16 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Russell Brand to Channel 4's Jon Snow; "Listen you, Let me Talk" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn03d ]Feb 16 22:10
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roy_https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/435170225386840064?refsrc=emailFeb 16 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@davidgerard: Oh, @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven The H-Online UK archive appears to be up again, with old URLs working. Good!!Feb 16 22:33
roy_Thanks to work from former writers. Good job. And pressure helped, just like w/ LinuxDevicesFeb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines@davidgerard     Oh, @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven TheFeb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    H-Online UK archive appears to be up again,Feb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines    with old URLs working. Good!!Feb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn07sFeb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     @davidgerard @schestowitz @glynmoody @lprovenFeb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Thanks to work from former writers. Good job.Feb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines                 And pressure helped, just like w/ LinuxDevicesFeb 16 22:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn07uFeb 16 22:34
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '@davidgerard @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven Thanks to work from...'Feb 16 22:36
roy_https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435140523142033408  https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435140773407776768 https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435141027297366017  https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435142288755273728   https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435142406330011648Feb 16 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz It's a shame, because the values Diaspora stuck by were excellent, for me its audience was too limited to be a useful venue.Feb 16 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz Having said that G+ is rather dire and FB is only for family, So that really leaves blog and Twitter as my main outlets.Feb 16 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz Yes I think within the tech/foss movement its fantastic, however my writing and interests are now diversifying in other areas.Feb 16 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz I know, but its hardly the panacea for mainstream interests.Where's the WH40k or Luton Town groups (in respect of my interests)Feb 16 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz because if it was, then it would attract the numbers and diverse interests of twitter. Then I'd be back there.Feb 16 22:37
*TweetTuxMachines @davidgerard retweeted @tuxmachines: '@davidgerard @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven Thanks to work from...'Feb 16 22:48
TweetTuxMachines@davidgerard     @tuxmachines @schestowitz @glynmoody @lprovenFeb 16 22:48
TweetTuxMachines                 my sincere thanks to @heiseonline for restoringFeb 16 22:48
TweetTuxMachines                 the archive, particularly for Wikipedia refs!Feb 16 22:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn0a4Feb 16 22:48
SosumiI see you guys have finally found your islandFeb 16 22:57
Sosumisomewhere in the land of imagination :)Feb 16 22:58
SosumignFeb 16 22:58
MinceRo/Feb 16 22:58
qu1j0t3yeah it's like that island at the end of SolarisFeb 16 22:59
MinceRgnFeb 16 23:23
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DaemonFCI responded to an NBC story about a Satanist teen murdering 22 people.Feb 17 01:54
DaemonFC6 minutes ago · EditedFeb 17 01:54
DaemonFCWhile horrible, 22 people isn't a huge body count for an Abrahamic religion. The teen would have to murder 22 people, per day, for several thousand years, to catch up to the current body count of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. The so-called "religions of peace". And that doesn't count keeping up with the increasing body count of the Big Three over that time period. 22 per day would actually leave Satanism falling behind the others. Someone Feb 17 01:54
DaemonFCtold me a few days ago that the Christians need to pass things like HJR-3 and re-impose "sodomy laws" to protect themselves from gay people. I replied, "That's a little like saying that the 9/11 hijackers had to protect themselves from the people in the buildings.".Feb 17 01:54
qu1j0t3LOLFeb 17 02:11
qu1j0t3about rightFeb 17 02:11
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gde33We humans have great skill for repeating and reinventing our mistakes. Something like : if you dont like sodomy laws you must have something to hideFeb 17 05:46
gde33moderation doesnt seem the key, we have to develop it into something absurd enough that no one wants it anymore.Feb 17 05:53
gde33like theoretical physicsFeb 17 05:57
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3654062Feb 17 06:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3654062 )Feb 17 06:57
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gde33I had this idea for a garbage exchange long ago, not sure if anything like it exists, the idea is to exhange meaningless data between otherwise unrelated nodes.Feb 17 08:56
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gde33best encryption is if there is nothing in the messageFeb 17 08:57
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cousin_luigiGreetings.Feb 17 10:53
gde33hiFeb 17 10:53
gde33I was just looking at the channel just nowFeb 17 10:53
cousin_luigilikewiseFeb 17 10:53
gde33kinda strange you would say something right nowFeb 17 10:53
cousin_luigiI think I am in the wrong place. I was looking for linux gizmos.Feb 17 10:54
gde33define gizmo?Feb 17 10:54
cousin_luigilike the rPi or the sheevaplug for exampleFeb 17 10:54
gde33there are a bunch of channels for a bunch of topicsFeb 17 10:54
cousin_luigiWhat do you mean?Feb 17 10:55
gde33'#raspberrypiFeb 17 10:55
cousin_luigiI found a link to this channel on an article about linuxgizmos.Feb 17 10:55
gde33#raspberrypiFeb 17 10:55
gde33o icFeb 17 10:55
cousin_luigigde33: But I don't want a rPi, I'm looking for a generic channel.Feb 17 10:55
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gde33there is ##programming and ##hardware Feb 17 10:56
gde33and #defocusFeb 17 10:56
MinceRi think he was looking for tuxmachinesFeb 17 10:57
gde33I didn't notice he just leftFeb 17 10:59
gde33what a dickFeb 17 10:59
gde33they should be glad not to have him :PFeb 17 10:59
gde33you have all these helpful channels on irc, people log in, ask questions, if they get an answer or not they leave rightaway, often with some knee jerk remark complaining about the help.Feb 17 11:03
gde33it seems to get worse by the yearFeb 17 11:03
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Sosumihttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560871/Crackshot-Harry-buffalo-killer-Picture-emerges-princes-call-protect-wildlife.htmlFeb 17 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Crackshot Harry, the buffalo killer: Picture emerges after prince's call to protect wildlife | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gn2z8 ]Feb 17 11:04
Sosumiso, besides being royal parasitesFeb 17 11:04
Sosumithey're alsoFeb 17 11:04
Sosumiroyal hypocritesFeb 17 11:04
gde33what nice people we must be for not killing themFeb 17 11:04
SosumiyepFeb 17 11:05
Sosumitomorrows programFeb 17 11:05
SosumiregicideFeb 17 11:05
gde33sarah palin aerial huntingFeb 17 11:05
gde33http://www.grizzlybay.org/LearnMore/sarah%20palin%20images/palincaribouhunt.jpgFeb 17 11:06
gde33from a helicopterFeb 17 11:06
SosumimehFeb 17 11:07
Sosumikilling just for killing is wrongFeb 17 11:07
gde33Sarah Palin approved a $400,000 state-funded propaganda campaign to promote aerial hunting.Feb 17 11:07
gde33the Center for Biological Diversity and allies sued the administration, winning a temporary ruling stopping the killing in July. But rather than continue to fight us in court, the administration formally revoked its previous decision and return the wolf to the endangered species list as a fully protected species.Feb 17 11:09
gde33but not before they shot 100Feb 17 11:09
gde33and with automatic weaponsFeb 17 11:10
gde33a sort of unlimited madnessFeb 17 11:12
gde33I was just wondering, with the genetic engineering, at what point do people loose their rights?Feb 17 11:13
gde33what percentage of human genome do you need to enjoy rights?Feb 17 11:13
gde33For example the brain of a sperm whale and that of an orca are larger, and more complex than human brains.Feb 17 11:15
gde33but they dont get any rightsFeb 17 11:15
gde33we may also be able to extend our brain with electronicsFeb 17 11:15
gde33and eventually replace it?Feb 17 11:16
gde33does that make the person intelectual property?Feb 17 11:16
gde33aka slavery?Feb 17 11:16
gde33If you need some upgrade or a substance (drug) we may already deny you this and let you die in stead. Purely on the basis of copyrights.Feb 17 11:18
iophkpatentsFeb 17 11:18
gde33intelectual propertyFeb 17 11:18
MinceRimaginary propertyFeb 17 11:19
gde33We dont have living software today but we shouldn't make laws that are unrealistic on the long term?Feb 17 11:20
gde33there is a legal loophole here that allows you to renovate part of a house, if it is less than a given percentage it isn't considered a new building.Feb 17 11:21
gde33but you may do renovations again and again.Feb 17 11:21
gde33arguably you can replace part of the human body step by step until you have nothing left but electronics?Feb 17 11:21
gde33boil the frog slow enough and no one will argue the person doesn't exist anymoreFeb 17 11:22
gde33to make it more fun, there are people functioning with less than half the brain mass. Maybe we can fork a person? :PFeb 17 11:22
gde33does the "other" guy have rights?Feb 17 11:23
gde33we also have laws for selling human body parts, asshes and remainsFeb 17 11:25
gde33lolFeb 17 11:25
gde33http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/remains.htmlFeb 17 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pages.ebay.com | Human remains and body parts policy [ http://ur1.ca/gn35i ]Feb 17 11:29
gde33Clean, articulated (jointed), non-Native American skulls and skeletons used for medical research.Feb 17 11:30
iophkhttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/mosaid-doubles-in-size-and-becomes-conversant-2013-09-19Feb 17 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwatch.com | MOSAID Doubles In Size and Becomes Conversant - MarketWatch [ http://ur1.ca/gn36a ]Feb 17 11:33
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iophkhttp://mediagoblin.org/Feb 17 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mediagoblin.org | MediaGoblinFeb 17 16:42
Sosumihttp://rt.com/usa/father-beaten-death-oklahoma-cops-433/Feb 17 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gn54l ]Feb 17 16:58
Sosumi"Father trying to stop family fight beaten to death by Oklahoma cops"Feb 17 16:58
Sosumigo to the USA? not even onceFeb 17 16:58
Sosumihttp://www.playerattack.com/news/2014/02/17/report-valve-anti-cheat-scans-your-dns-history/Feb 17 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.playerattack.com | Report: Valve anti-cheat scans your DNS history « Player Attack [ http://ur1.ca/gn552 ]Feb 17 17:02
Sosumiwell ofc, captain obviousFeb 17 17:03
SosumiVAC does it, EA's Origin does it and blizzard's warden does it tooFeb 17 17:03
MinceRit's good that they call attention to the fact that DNS history should be protected against such snooping :>Feb 17 17:04
Sosumiprobably with the added doubt that they also collect info of what is in the ramFeb 17 17:05
Sosumipunkbuster sure does thatFeb 17 17:05
Sosumi"Valve is looking at your browsing history right now, if a recent report is to be believed. It seems that the company's Valve Anti Cheat system (VAC) reportedly looks at all the domains you have visited, and if it finds that you've frequented hack sites, who knows what actions it will take.Feb 17 17:06
Sosumi"Feb 17 17:06
SosumiyayFeb 17 17:06
Sosumistill want steam (even in mind that you're just leasing the games for unlimited time)? or hype steam on gnu/linuxFeb 17 17:08
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/02/next-metal-gear-solid-runs-1080p-on-ps4-720p-on-xbox-one/Feb 17 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Next Metal Gear Solid runs 1080p on PS4, 720p on Xbox One | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gn567 ]Feb 17 17:09
Sosumixbone the weakest console confirmed once againFeb 17 17:09
Sosumion the otehr sideFeb 17 17:16
Sosumilithuania is meeting euro targetsFeb 17 17:16
Sosumiwhich means, it too is brokeFeb 17 17:16
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MinceRsee, that's what SteamOS and Steam Machines are for -- to isolate steam so it doesn't get to spy on you. :>Feb 17 17:19
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Sosumione of the poorest excuses I've ever heard...Feb 17 17:20
Sosumiwhat about spying being "unethical"?Feb 17 17:21
Sosumialso steam machine, steam os...Feb 17 17:22
Sosumidid you know that the both the ps3 and xbox 360sent info mack to their respective platform holdersFeb 17 17:22
Sosumiabout the kind of tv you were using and what devices you had on your network?Feb 17 17:22
MinceRi don't know what they didFeb 17 17:23
Sosumiand more recently lg tvs were sending back to lg info about what files you played on the smart tvFeb 17 17:24
MinceRindeed.Feb 17 17:24
Sosumiand I bet for sure that valve has some kind of "poison" on their steam osFeb 17 17:24
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Sosumiand one is already confirmedFeb 17 17:25
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Sosumiand yes, lithuania is supposed to join the euro in january of next yearFeb 17 17:31
Sosumiand the trashcan pro shipping date slides once againFeb 17 17:35
Sosuminow to aprilFeb 17 17:36
Sosumiby that time nvidia has already launched their new 800 seriesFeb 17 17:36
Sosumiand so has amd probably introduced some new fire pro cards (the real ones)Feb 17 17:36
Sosumiand intel lowered the prices of the cpusFeb 17 17:37
Sosumimaking the trashcan totally uncompetitiveFeb 17 17:37
MinceRso, business as usual for appleFeb 17 17:37
Sosumiand seem like a total turd (more than it already is) when compared to a custom built or hp z workstationFeb 17 17:38
Sosuminow imagine, if you're running mission critical stuff on some of the old mac prosFeb 17 17:39
Sosumiand it breaksFeb 17 17:39
Sosumiand you still have stuff tied to osxFeb 17 17:39
Sosumiwell, better not jinx itFeb 17 17:39
Sosumi:)Feb 17 17:39
MinceRyou've already jinxed itFeb 17 17:41
MinceRby having mission critical stuff depend on apple stuffFeb 17 17:41
Sosumiit was a matter of economicsFeb 17 17:41
Sosumiback in 2009 you could buy a maxed dual xeon mac pro for cheaper than a hp z800Feb 17 17:43
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Sosumiand I didn't have much need for 100GB of ram nor SASFeb 17 17:43
Sosumiso it made sense to buy itFeb 17 17:44
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Sosumibut I did consider at the time going custom built as they no longer used ppcFeb 17 17:44
MinceRit was almost certainly lower quality, thoughFeb 17 17:45
SosuminahFeb 17 17:45
Sosumiit is okFeb 17 17:45
Sosumiboard was made by foxxcomFeb 17 17:46
Sosumiincluding the designFeb 17 17:46
Sosumiand the printing actually looks much better and cleaner than a top asus boardFeb 17 17:46
MinceRfoxconnFeb 17 17:46
Sosumithe PSU was made by deltaFeb 17 17:47
MinceRthe board isn't everything, thoughFeb 17 17:47
MinceRso, does hp use asus, then? :>Feb 17 17:47
Sosumithe default ram was made by hynixFeb 17 17:47
Sosumihp outsources to asus sometimesFeb 17 17:47
Sosumiand at least during the nehalem timeFeb 17 17:48
Sosumithey were using ram manufactured by samsungFeb 17 17:48
Sosumiwhich is also the same ram I am usingFeb 17 17:48
Sosumihp rebranded samsung sticksFeb 17 17:48
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Sosumiand they were cheaper and better than what apple was sellingFeb 17 17:50
Sosumithe default hynix ram didn't have heatspreaders, hp's hasFeb 17 17:50
Sosumibut all else was pretty mmuch the sameFeb 17 17:51
Sosumitypical default spec for 1066 ddr3 eccFeb 17 17:52
Sosumionly big nonos were the gpu offersFeb 17 17:53
Sosumihd4870 (lol) on the high endFeb 17 17:53
Sosumibut evga did come to the rescue by offering the gtx285Feb 17 17:53
Sosumiand a crappy dvd burnerFeb 17 17:54
Sosumiwhich ended up being my first victimFeb 17 17:54
Sosumias I tossed it out and put two hdds on the optical slotsFeb 17 17:54
MinceRhm, the firefox configure script has a message saying "Reticulating splines..." :)Feb 17 17:56
Sosumihttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33717226/Hack5.JPGFeb 17 17:58
Sosumithat's a westemere based hp z800Feb 17 17:59
abeNd-orgMinceR: sounds like someone played a little too much of The SimsFeb 17 17:59
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Sosumidensely populated board and without the possibility of having 4 gpus at 16xFeb 17 18:02
Sosumithe evga sr2 was a much better offerFeb 17 18:02
Sosumiconsidering the specsFeb 17 18:02
MinceRindeed :>Feb 17 18:02
MinceRor simcity 2000Feb 17 18:03
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DaemonFCA Republican told me that if people hate their crappy Walmart job, then they're free to quit and work somewhere else.Feb 17 19:18
DaemonFCI replied "If there was somewhere else to work, they'd already be working there, dumbass."Feb 17 19:18
DaemonFCThe only thing that such a job is good for is as a gateway to social assistance programs. Since most Walmart workers can't make more than about $200-250 a week, which hasn't paid the bills since the early 1990s, they work these bad jobs so that they can get access to food assistance and public health insurance programs.Feb 17 19:18
DaemonFCWalmart's former CEO, H. Lee Scott, who was the CEO when I worked there, said that Walmart had no intention of "competing" with Medicaid, because it was "a better deal" than their own insurance program.Feb 17 19:18
abeNd-orgwhich is what most companies will say & start dumping their people into the exchangesFeb 17 19:20
abeNd-orgmo'profitFeb 17 19:20
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DaemonFCshared Occupy Democrats's photo.Feb 17 19:34
DaemonFC7 minutes ago · EditedFeb 17 19:34
DaemonFCThe right-wing obsession with life only applies to unborn fetuses. We progressives are the only political persuasion that has a comprehensive pro-life program to offer.Feb 17 19:34
DaemonFCGeorge Carlin was right on when he said that once you're born, the right to lifers don't ever want to hear from you again, until you're old enough to join the military, and then you're just what they've been looking for. Maybe that's why the US is only slightly ahead of Romania for child poverty rates.Feb 17 19:34
DaemonFCAs a Humanist, I feel that I need to call attention to the horrors and ravages of American crapitalism, because it's the right thing to do. The American people never get bailed out. Only the rich criminals get bailed out.Feb 17 19:34
DaemonFCFor example, the government only spends $60 billion a year on affordable housing programs, but they spend over $100 billion on the "mortgage interest tax credit", which goes mostly to households with six or seven figure incomes, who don't need it.Feb 17 19:34
DaemonFCWhat little public housing does exist is the decaying remains of projects that were built 50 years ago. That's why the waiting lists are five years long and the Fort Wayne Rescue Mission is always filled to capacity, leaving (mostly) men to freeze to death in peoples front lawns.Feb 17 19:34
DaemonFCThere's usually over a half dozen corpses found frozen in peoples lawns in Fort Wayne every single year. This is wrong. This is messed up.Feb 17 19:34
DaemonFCThe Republicans are basically telling unemployable workers that "We no longer need you and you can go die now.".Feb 17 19:34
DaemonFCPeople who have very little are hanging on and don't want to rock the boat because they are afraid that they'll lose what they have left. That is one of the reasons why the Republicans hate Obamacare. It makes it harder for employers to beat workers over the head with the threat of being let go and losing their healthcare.Feb 17 19:35
DaemonFCI comment on a lot of these posts. :PFeb 17 19:35
gde33DaemonFC: not sure if that are the republicans, even the victims are shopping at wallmart.Feb 17 19:38
gde33slavery was ended by not buying products made by slavesFeb 17 19:39
gde33so there is no excuse for itFeb 17 19:39
gde33here people complaint that every restaurant is owned by immigrants, then they go eat there.Feb 17 19:41
gde33not some of the time, always.Feb 17 19:42
DaemonFCAs an assistant manager at Walmart, your pay cap and raises are based largely on your willingness to move.Feb 17 19:42
DaemonFCIf you aren't willing to move every 18 months then you quickly hit the pay cap and your chances to be promoted any further are basically zero. You hit a brick wall. One of the other assistants had worked at that position for over 10 years, and hadn't gotten a raise in over 5 years, because he didn't want to move every year and a half. Feb 17 19:42
gde33I dont like what happens but it seems fine to ask people to dig their own grave?Feb 17 19:44
gde33You cant help people who dont want to be helped.Feb 17 19:45
gde33But should you try?Feb 17 19:45
gde33I believe the ultimate solution for the merican government is to go to war, then just commandeer all the big corporations.Feb 17 19:46
gde33As a sort of : "haha, sucks to be you"Feb 17 19:46
gde33the stocks would be worthless, all the value would go into the dollar.Feb 17 19:48
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gde33Or anti wallmart campaining, I suppose that could work, if people are inspired enough.Feb 17 19:52
gde33Americans are still closer than people in Europe, it wouldn't be as hard as hereFeb 17 19:53
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DaemonFCThis is why I don't like to watch TV "news".Feb 17 19:53
DaemonFCWANE 15 is going to give equal footing to an anti-vaccine nutcase to argue with an actual medical doctor.Feb 17 19:53
DaemonFCWhen you're "fair and balanced" to a fault, it's going to give the appearance of legitimacy to some really stupid people. Indiana already has a problem with right-wing conspiracy theorist and other derelict parents who aren't getting their kids vaccinated.Feb 17 19:53
DaemonFCWe can't afford to lend these people some credibility.Feb 17 19:53
gde33DaemonFC: I thought you left because of what I said.Feb 17 19:53
gde33I've been getting that a lot lately on irc. :(Feb 17 19:54
DaemonFCNo. I left because my internet connection resets a lot when I am torrenting.Feb 17 19:54
DaemonFCProbably deliberate. (Comcast)Feb 17 19:54
gde33Ah, then I'm on the right track :DFeb 17 19:54
gde33hahaFeb 17 19:54
gde33[20:48:43] <gde33> the stocks would be worthless, all the value would go into the dollar.Feb 17 19:55
gde33[20:52:10] <gde33> Or anti wallmart campaining, I suppose that could work, if people are inspired enough.Feb 17 19:55
gde33[20:53:08] <gde33> Americans are still closer than people in Europe, it wouldn't be as hard as hereFeb 17 19:55
gde33not all vaccination has humanitarian motivesFeb 17 19:56
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gde33there have been many cases where civilian vaccines are all of a sudden not good enough for the militaryFeb 17 19:57
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gde33or vaccines for africa not fit for westernersFeb 17 19:57
gde33the German government went as far as to order a special vaccine for politiciansFeb 17 19:57
gde33there is some congressional record from a doctor studing cancer when the cancer epedemic startedFeb 17 19:58
gde33he wrote that he had never seen cancer in someone who wasn't vaccinatedFeb 17 19:58
DaemonFCPeople are running out of money and the collateral and credit ratings needed to enable new debt.Feb 17 19:58
gde33then there is this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_anomalyFeb 17 19:58
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DaemonFCSo, Walmart's US sales are starting to turn negative.Feb 17 19:59
DaemonFC*sales growthFeb 17 19:59
gde33niceFeb 17 19:59
DaemonFCThe banks don't see any need to take on liability for personal loans when they can make more money by parking money that they borrowed at 0.25% in their Fed accounts, and earn 0.75% on it risk-free.Feb 17 20:00
DaemonFCThe way to stimulate the economy would be to keep borrowing rates low, but implement a negative interest on excess reserves.Feb 17 20:00
gde33we should abolish interest ratesFeb 17 20:01
gde33just make it illegalFeb 17 20:01
DaemonFCThe FED should implement a -1% NIRP on excess reserves.Feb 17 20:03
DaemonFCWatch how fast the banks pull the money out and start lending it.Feb 17 20:03
gde33couldn't property tax do that?Feb 17 20:03
DaemonFCNo.Feb 17 20:03
DaemonFCIndiana's tax policies are highly regressive though, since you mentioned property tax.Feb 17 20:04
gde33sounds interesting to punish hoardersFeb 17 20:04
gde33they are like a plagueFeb 17 20:04
DaemonFCI think that the property tax rate should start out at 1% for the lowest valued homes and properties, and work its way up to 5% for the highest valued properties and homes.Feb 17 20:04
DaemonFCUse the extra money to cut the sales tax from 7% to 3%.Feb 17 20:05
DaemonFCThey'd never do it because it would increase the tax burden on the rich while giving the poor a lot more money to spend.Feb 17 20:05
gde33I would like to see 75% for the highest value propertiesFeb 17 20:05
gde33explode the housing bubbleFeb 17 20:06
DaemonFCIt would basically be a $500 a year tax cut for a person making $20,000 a year.Feb 17 20:06
DaemonFCThen they could spend the extra money and create more jobs in Indiana.Feb 17 20:06
gde33ideally, like in software, we would have a formula that takes real world values and calculate the rate out of thoseFeb 17 20:07
DaemonFCThen I would increase the tax on a pack of cigarettes from 99 cents per pack to $2 per pack, and use the extra money to abolish the state income tax completely.Feb 17 20:07
gde33I just bought tobaccoFeb 17 20:07
gde338 euro and 20 centsFeb 17 20:07
DaemonFCThe tax hike would bring in extra money and reduce outlays for the Medicaid program.Feb 17 20:07
gde33and a dark one, 8 euro and 80 cent, without the papersFeb 17 20:07
DaemonFCSo it would free up enough money in the budget to cut the income tax from 3.4% to 0.Feb 17 20:08
gde33it is lame in that smokers dont make much use of healthcareFeb 17 20:08
gde33they usually just dieFeb 17 20:08
DaemonFCActually, they do.Feb 17 20:08
gde33the last few years are most expensiveFeb 17 20:08
DaemonFC"Hey doc! Quit bitching at me about the cigarettes and just give me a $400 a month inhaler so I feel a bit better as I die!"Feb 17 20:09
gde33smokers dont have those yearsFeb 17 20:09
DaemonFCI know I'd make a better governor than that piece of crap that currently occupies the office.Feb 17 20:09
DaemonFCI'd have Indiana humming again in a couple of years Feb 17 20:09
DaemonFCI'd call special sessions of the Indiana General Assembly every day, even on Christmas, until they agreed to implement my policies.Feb 17 20:10
DaemonFCI think they'd come around pretty fast when you increase their work year from 90 days to 365.Feb 17 20:10
DaemonFCgde33: They wouldn't like it even with the extra pay.Feb 17 20:11
DaemonFCThe salary for a state representative or Senator is not that much.Feb 17 20:11
gde3390 days is of course rediculousFeb 17 20:11
DaemonFCMost of them only officially make about as much per year as a part time Walmart employee.Feb 17 20:12
DaemonFCMost of them do it because of the perks, from organizations like ALEC.Feb 17 20:12
DaemonFCYeah, so they'd get sick of showing up 365 days a year for about $17,000.Feb 17 20:12
gde33Russell Brand seems to have found a nice loophole.Feb 17 20:12
DaemonFCI have a feeling they'd start negotiating with me.Feb 17 20:12
gde33It is far more interesting than he is given credit for.Feb 17 20:13
gde33He is interested in representing people rather than politicsFeb 17 20:13
DaemonFCThe governor is able to do that. The constitution says that the governor can call a special session whenever he wants.Feb 17 20:13
gde33But how do you get in office?Feb 17 20:13
gde33That is the big question.Feb 17 20:14
DaemonFCThat's the hard part.Feb 17 20:14
DaemonFC:)Feb 17 20:14
gde33that is why Brands trick is so intersting to me.Feb 17 20:14
gde33He just represents peopleFeb 17 20:14
gde33then existing polticians, whoever they are, are left to deal with it.Feb 17 20:14
gde33I mesure his success by how hard he is blasted by the controlled mediaFeb 17 20:15
gde33headlines like: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2559988/Russell-Brand-finally-meets-match-Comic-loses-cool-television-anchor-Jon-Snow-tears-confused-campaign-legalise-drugs.htmlFeb 17 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Russell Brand finally meets his match: Comic loses his cool as television anchor Jon Snow tears into his 'confused' campaign to legalise drugs | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gn658 ]Feb 17 20:16
gde33http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/15/russell-brand-v-jon-snow-interview-pair-clash-on-channel-4-over-drugs-4305646/Feb 17 20:16
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gde33they are even blasting channel 4 for putting him onFeb 17 20:16
gde33http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbiz/459883/Channel-4-blasted-for-letting-Russell-Brand-rant-about-drugsFeb 17 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.express.co.uk | Channel 4 blasted for letting Russell Brand rant about drugs | Showbiz | News | Daily Express [ http://ur1.ca/gn65e ]Feb 17 20:17
gde33and that becomes news in it selfFeb 17 20:17
gde33streisand effectFeb 17 20:17
gde33"Brand, a reformed drug addict, repeatedly interrupted the veteran presenter"Feb 17 20:18
gde33hahahaFeb 17 20:18
gde33sounds buthurtFeb 17 20:18
gde33the drug policy isn't so interesting in it selfFeb 17 20:19
gde33and they cant send the MI5 after him to intimidate him eitherFeb 17 20:20
gde33what they usually do when this happensFeb 17 20:20
DaemonFChttp://wane.com/news/national/snake-handling-ky-pastor-dies-from-snake-bite/Feb 17 20:22
DaemonFC"Did anyone else feel the world get lighter? We lost a moron! We lost a moron!" -Bill HicksFeb 17 20:22
gde33hahFeb 17 20:22
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DaemonFCI do love these new shoes.Feb 17 21:32
DaemonFCI had definitely worn my other ones out.Feb 17 21:32
DaemonFCI usually wear out the insoles before I wear out the rest of the shoe, so I just get some replacement insoles for like $10 at Walmart, and wear the shoes for another year or so.Feb 17 21:32
DaemonFCWalmart sells shoes, but they're not good shoes.Feb 17 21:33
DaemonFCYou can get a pair for $20, but they only last a month or two.Feb 17 21:33
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SosumistrangeFeb 17 22:02
SosumiI've had my shoes for 3 years nowFeb 17 22:02
SosumiI train with them at the gym and use them on regularly basisFeb 17 22:03
Sosumiand they're still okFeb 17 22:03
Sosumiwell, they have some holes here and there :)Feb 17 22:06
Sosumibut they're extremely comfortableFeb 17 22:06
Sosumiand I just don't want to carry another pair aroundFeb 17 22:07
MinceRi replace my shoes if they develop holesFeb 17 22:07
MinceRespecially the ones that are otherwise water resistant :>Feb 17 22:07
SosumihaFeb 17 22:07
SosumiI don't have that kind of problems hereFeb 17 22:08
Sosumiit surely rains, but its not coldFeb 17 22:08
Sosumior anythingFeb 17 22:08
MinceRwell, i've got to look out for that, since making proper road and sidewalk surfaces and properly draining rainwater is an unknown art in hungaryFeb 17 22:09
SosumilolFeb 17 22:09
MinceRthe rain pools on the footpaths, on the sidewalks on the roads, often in deep poolsFeb 17 22:09
MinceRoften the drains are the highest parts of the roadFeb 17 22:09
MinceReven when accidentally they manage to make the road surface slant towards the sides, there are no working drains thereFeb 17 22:10
MinceRthere are paved footpaths were the pavement curls up on the edges, forming little poolsFeb 17 22:10
Sosumisounds like someone failed at civil engineeringFeb 17 22:10
Sosumiwe do have some problemsFeb 17 22:11
Sosumibut nothing on that magnitudeFeb 17 22:11
Sosumiexcept for some isolated cases in some no man's place that I don't even knowFeb 17 22:11
Sosumiand I mean,Feb 17 22:12
MinceRi suspect the commies scared away or killed all the intellectualsFeb 17 22:12
SosumiI go walk every day through the historical parts lisbonFeb 17 22:12
MinceRso they were left with people who didn't have a clueFeb 17 22:12
MinceRand didn't careFeb 17 22:12
MinceRand it showsFeb 17 22:12
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Sosumiwhich is expect to find some clogged drain holeFeb 17 22:12
Sosumibut nopFeb 17 22:12
Sosumithe municipal works do a good job in keeping stuff workingFeb 17 22:13
Sosumicommies or not anymoreFeb 17 22:14
Sosumiwith the renewed russiaFeb 17 22:15
Sosumiand the now partition of world between the US and RussiaFeb 17 22:15
SosumiI think it is a good a time to start learning russianFeb 17 22:15
MinceRi was referring to the commies before 1990Feb 17 22:16
MinceRmost of whom are still aroundFeb 17 22:16
MinceRour two major parties are mostly commies from back thenFeb 17 22:16
SosumiwellFeb 17 22:16
MinceRour nazis are using the playbook of the most repressive commie regime hungary hadFeb 17 22:17
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MinceR(and there's so little difference i'm tempted to call them all 'communazis')Feb 17 22:17
Sosumiand our major political parties are formed by the same folks that participated in the estado novo dictatorshipFeb 17 22:17
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Sosumispecially the current ruling partyFeb 17 22:18
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Sosumiof which dear leader, EU commission honcho and fascistoidFeb 17 22:19
SosumiJosé Manuel "cagão" BarrosoFeb 17 22:19
Sosumiis partFeb 17 22:19
SosumiI wanderFeb 17 22:23
Sosumiwhen does hungary join the euro?Feb 17 22:23
MinceRneverFeb 17 22:24
MinceRa better question is will hungary or the monetary union collapse firstFeb 17 22:24
Sosumiwhy not have them collapse at the same time?Feb 17 22:25
MinceRpossible but unlikelyFeb 17 22:26
Sosumithe monetary union can't collapseFeb 17 22:26
Sosumiit has already passed the point of no returnFeb 17 22:26
MinceRhow so?Feb 17 22:27
Sosumithey'll just keep prompting it up and that is itFeb 17 22:27
MinceRthey might not be able to do so foreverFeb 17 22:27
MinceRthey might not be willing to keep everyone insideFeb 17 22:27
DaemonFCShoveling out my driveway. I have to say that I could do without the nibshit across the street watching me like a buzzard.Feb 17 22:27
MinceRi could do without most of the humans infesting this planetFeb 17 22:27
Sosumiand what they are going to do?Feb 17 22:28
Sosumibomb them? like Merkel was saying to greeceFeb 17 22:28
Sosumithat she would "kick" greece out if Syriza had won the electionsFeb 17 22:28
DaemonFCMinceR: This town elects Republicans to the federal government.Feb 17 22:29
DaemonFCThis town is probably 60%+ retirees on Social Security pensions.Feb 17 22:29
DaemonFCThe Republicans they elect say that Social Security is unconstitutional and should be shut down.Feb 17 22:30
DaemonFCIf you were on Social Security and the Republican said it should be shut down, would you vote for the Republican?Feb 17 22:30
DaemonFCI will never understand that.Feb 17 22:30
MinceRSosumi: for example, germany and/or france could withdraw from it if they think it will destroy themFeb 17 22:30
DaemonFCMinceR: Thank goodness that the Senate seats are statewide elections.Feb 17 22:30
DaemonFCMy vote matters at least a small amount for the Senate races.Feb 17 22:31
Sosumibut in turn, it is france and germany that are destroying the EUFeb 17 22:31
Sosumigermany with its austerity demagogyFeb 17 22:31
DaemonFCThe Republicans drew my House district in such a way that only a Republican can win.Feb 17 22:31
Sosumiand france with its psychotrips of warFeb 17 22:31
MinceRSosumi: will it matter?Feb 17 22:31
DaemonFCSo, my vote is meaningless for that.Feb 17 22:31
Sosumiif your goal is economical and scientifically progressFeb 17 22:32
Sosumias well in having a strong block capable of maintaining a power balance in between the US and RussiaFeb 17 22:32
Sosumiit doesFeb 17 22:32
Sosuminut that is not what is happeningFeb 17 22:33
MinceRif your goal is economic and scientific progress, why elect EPP member parties to lead countries and the EU at all?Feb 17 22:33
Sosumiinstead, what you kind of have is compliant ruleFeb 17 22:33
MinceRit doesn't make any senseFeb 17 22:34
Sosumito anglo-american interestsFeb 17 22:34
MinceRi don't think these people want progressFeb 17 22:34
MinceRespecially hungariansFeb 17 22:34
MinceRhungarians seem to want to die a long and painful deathFeb 17 22:34
DaemonFCBrandon SellersFeb 17 22:34
DaemonFCMike, if being gay is a choice, when, and why did you choose to be straight? I borrowed this question, but it begs to be answered.Feb 17 22:34
DaemonFCI also commented...Feb 17 22:34
Sosumispecially of vulture capitalists and hedgefund hyenas typesFeb 17 22:34
DaemonFCI said: Feb 17 22:34
DaemonFC Well, it's easy. I just woke up one day and decided that I wanted Christian Fundamentalists and other ****ing ****s from the double digit IQ population to hate and oppress me. I said "Gee, that sounds like a great idea!". Then that's when I chose to be gay. It was just so obvious. /sarcasmFeb 17 22:34
MinceRpoland managed to outlaw abortionFeb 17 22:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chrome OS and Android may be top desktop LinuxFeb 17 22:35
TweetTuxMachines                 distros in 2014 http://t.co/HfeUmApVyNFeb 17 22:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Chrome OS and Android may be top desktop Linux distros in 2014 | ITworldFeb 17 22:35
MinceRthey've managed to be even more backwards and fundie than the USAFeb 17 22:35
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abortion_Laws.svgFeb 17 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Abortion Laws.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gn6y7 ]Feb 17 22:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/rCDgyCdtb9Feb 17 22:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:35
MinceRthe human species is seriously illFeb 17 22:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CyanogenMOD developer demos Android MirroringFeb 17 22:36
TweetTuxMachines                 to Chromecast http://t.co/vi1O4mBMLkFeb 17 22:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CyanogenMOD developer demos Android Mirroring to Chromecast | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Smartphone shipment crosses 800 millionFeb 17 22:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Smartphone shipment crosses 800 million | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5 enters Alpha stageFeb 17 22:36
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Sosumiwhat we need is some to give a "reison d'etre" to the pplFeb 17 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5 enters Alpha stage | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:36
MinceRdoes self-destruction in the name of "God" qualify? :>Feb 17 22:37
Sosumisomething bigFeb 17 22:37
Sosumilike space colonizationFeb 17 22:37
MinceRthey don't care about space anymoreFeb 17 22:37
Sosumibig advancementsFeb 17 22:37
MinceRthe cold war kept the space race alive, now it's deadFeb 17 22:37
MinceRwhich is a good thingFeb 17 22:37
MinceRat least the infection won't spreadFeb 17 22:37
Sosumithat is the problemFeb 17 22:37
Sosumisociety at moment is on some kind of limboFeb 17 22:38
Sosumi"neither alive nor dead"Feb 17 22:38
Sosumibut waiting for deadFeb 17 22:38
Sosumi*"but awaiting for death to come"Feb 17 22:39
Sosumiand in the meantime they just pleasure themselves in mindless activitiesFeb 17 22:39
SosumiI remember Carl Sagan and othersFeb 17 22:39
Sosumisaying always mentioning "if we don't blow ourselves up" etc etcFeb 17 22:40
Sosumibut what if people in general lose the will to live?Feb 17 22:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Great News for Start of the Week: The H isFeb 17 22:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Great News for Start of the Week: The H is Back! | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Weekend in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Upcoming Features of GNOME 3.12Feb 17 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Upcoming Features of GNOME 3.12 | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Improvements to Bodhi's Chromebook SupportFeb 17 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improvements to Bodhi's Chromebook Support | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:41
Sosumiwell, I'm tiredFeb 17 22:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Site Update (Updated)  http://t.co/Fc4d7JaGQ4Feb 17 22:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Site Update (Updated) | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:41
Sosumiand tomorrows another will certainly be another intriguing dayFeb 17 22:41
Sosumign :)Feb 17 22:41
Sosumimeh, I can't even write properly anymore :PFeb 17 22:42
MinceRif only they were merely waiting for deathFeb 17 22:42
MinceRinstead they're ruining everything people have ever builtFeb 17 22:43
MinceRgnFeb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BeagleBone Black: The Sub-$50 ARM Linux BoardFeb 17 23:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BeagleBone Black: The Sub-$50 ARM Linux Board | Tux MachinesFeb 17 23:39
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 18 00:18
DaemonFCThe voters in DC should replace the mayor and strike any key when ready. Feb 18 00:18
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icecrawlerjono - when is your band gonna do 24 bit 5.1 flac instead of that lame mp3 shit mother fucker?Feb 18 01:22
icecrawleror can ubuntu not handle that?Feb 18 01:22
icecrawlerI know band camp on OSX does it no probFeb 18 01:23
jonoicecrawler, which band?Feb 18 01:23
icecrawleryour bandFeb 18 01:23
icecrawler Severed FifthFeb 18 01:24
icecrawleryou should have 5.1 24-bit flac, 16-bit flac, 16-bit alac, 16-bit opus and 192k oggFeb 18 01:25
icecrawlerfor freeFeb 18 01:25
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icecrawleror just the lossless onesFeb 18 01:26
icecrawlerdamn mirc keeps harassing me about being 55 days into my 30 day trialFeb 18 01:27
icecrawleri thought free software was open source and shitFeb 18 01:27
*icecrawler slaps jono around a bit with a large troutFeb 18 01:28
*icecrawler slaps prurigro around a bit with a large troutFeb 18 01:28
*icecrawler slaps tessier around a bit with a large troutFeb 18 01:28
icecrawlerlolFeb 18 01:28
icecrawleri wonder if the slap patent is up yet, dont see it in xchat yetFeb 18 01:29
jonoicecrawler, I will get FLAC up when I get a chanceFeb 18 01:30
icecrawleryou said that 2 years agoFeb 18 01:30
icecrawleryou lost the original didn't youFeb 18 01:31
icecrawlerall you have is the mp3Feb 18 01:31
icecrawlerand you make the cds from itFeb 18 01:31
icecrawler(shudders)Feb 18 01:31
jonoicecrawler, dude, chillFeb 18 01:31
icecrawlerLOLFeb 18 01:31
icecrawlerim just asking cause I owe DrPizza $200Feb 18 01:32
icecrawlerthere was a bet based on the time of the flacFeb 18 01:33
icecrawlermsb_ I think I owe you $150Feb 18 01:34
icecrawlerI can't remember if you actually threw down real moneyFeb 18 01:34
msb_icecrawler: Actually it was $250, but 150 is enough.Feb 18 01:35
icecrawlerthe CIA pays well?Feb 18 01:35
msb_I'm not really in the CIA, I just tell people that so they won't welsh on their bets.Feb 18 01:36
icecrawleroh ok, so DrPizza was right about you and mkultraFeb 18 01:37
msb_But I did write the software that controls the drones...Feb 18 01:37
icecrawleryou call your slaves drones?Feb 18 01:37
icecrawlercreepyFeb 18 01:37
msb_Here's me.  Look at the great new colored boxes!  With margins!  http://cosmicpenguin.comFeb 18 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 18 01:38
msb_Who is Dr Pizza?  I used to know, but I've forgotten.Feb 18 01:38
icecrawlerHe's in here, I was chatting with him the other dayFeb 18 01:39
icecrawlerSaid you were this crazy old conspiracy theoristFeb 18 01:39
icecrawlerFelt guilt from your CIA days as the killer of JFK and that you had experience to know 9/11 was done by the same agency.Feb 18 01:39
msb_Not crazy, 68, and they're facts, not theories.Feb 18 01:39
icecrawlerBeing able to use a sniper rifle on JFK doesn't really mean you know anything about the holograms used during 9/11Feb 18 01:41
icecrawlerNo plane debris = no planeFeb 18 01:41
icecrawlerDrPizza said you had some frozen thermite theoryFeb 18 01:42
msb_Check out this video -- one of the best I've ever seen.  Edward Bernays, CFR, etc, etc.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ERfxWouXsFeb 18 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Rule from the Shadows - The Psychology of Power - Part 1 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn7vh ]Feb 18 01:42
icecrawlerthe idea that if you make thermite out of dry ice its the opposite of hot - and freezes the supportFeb 18 01:42
icecrawlercausing a hologram to be able to destroy the supportFeb 18 01:43
msb_That's utter nonsense.Feb 18 01:43
icecrawlermy opinion: I don't think it was this frozen thermite, or planes or "terrorists"Feb 18 01:44
msb_The towers were destroyed by implanted explosives.  Thermite was used below ground,Feb 18 01:44
icecrawlerI think they had hologram planes MASKING alien craftFeb 18 01:44
icecrawlerthats why the NSA took everyones video footageFeb 18 01:44
icecrawlerto get the UFO's outFeb 18 01:45
msb_There are some 40 videos of the second plane hitting.  The govt did not seize them.Feb 18 01:45
icecrawlerthey were editedFeb 18 01:46
icecrawlerthe people had their memories erasedFeb 18 01:46
msb_There's no reason to think so.  Some have artefacts caused by the compression algorithm(s).Feb 18 01:47
icecrawlerhologramsFeb 18 01:47
msb_No point arguing with an anonymous person.Feb 18 01:48
icecrawlersame thing in Iraq, holograms of weapons of mass destructionFeb 18 01:48
icecrawlerthen Bush and the UK invaded and no weaponsFeb 18 01:48
icecrawlerhow do you explain that oneFeb 18 01:48
icecrawlerAliens are trying to make Bush look badFeb 18 01:48
icecrawlerso we elect anti-war leadersFeb 18 01:49
icecrawlerim not anonymousFeb 18 01:49
msb_What's your name?Feb 18 01:49
icecrawlerI'm Dan Forbes and I'm from UofTFeb 18 01:50
msb_Mark S Bilk, mark@cosmicpenguin.comFeb 18 01:50
msb_Toronto?Feb 18 01:50
icecrawleryeah mother fuckerFeb 18 01:50
icecrawlerGTAFeb 18 01:50
msb_?Feb 18 01:51
icecrawleri dont use E-mail, the feds monitor itFeb 18 01:51
icecrawleras well as a few of the alien factionsFeb 18 01:51
msb_I don't care.  I'd put everything I know on my website if I had the time.Feb 18 01:52
msb_What is GTA?Feb 18 01:52
jonoicecrawler, I will do it when I get a chance, but tbh, it is pretty low on my priority listFeb 18 01:52
jonoI have a million and one other things to doFeb 18 01:52
msb_I'm in the phone book if you want to call.Feb 18 01:53
icecrawleryou know all that is monitored by the government msb_?Feb 18 01:53
msb_I figure, but I have nothing to hide.Feb 18 01:54
msb_I get all my info from the Web anyhow, so it's already up there.Feb 18 01:54
msb_Go Toronto Animals?Feb 18 01:54
jonogotta runFeb 18 01:54
jonolatersFeb 18 01:54
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msb_see yaFeb 18 01:55
icecrawlermsb_ Greater Toronto Area mother fucker, word upFeb 18 01:55
msb_icecrawler: Are you angry at me for some reason?Feb 18 01:55
icecrawlerhttp://youtu.be/vXCXXLNaYjoFeb 18 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Grey Aliens Sinister Plans for Mankind - YouTubeFeb 18 01:56
icecrawlermsb_ noFeb 18 01:56
icecrawlerthats just how I roll hommieFeb 18 01:56
icecrawlercheck out that youtube link brotherFeb 18 01:56
icecrawlerimo the grays did 9/11, not humansFeb 18 01:57
icecrawlertheres a few times where I went to bed early and dont remember doing it and i woke up tiredFeb 18 01:58
icecrawlerabductions probablyFeb 18 01:58
icecrawler12 hours of sleep, how could I be tiredFeb 18 01:59
icecrawleryou know msb_?Feb 18 01:59
msb_Well, the question of who or what is at the top of Earth's control pyramid is very important.  I wish I knew.Feb 18 01:59
icecrawleraliens tell the CIA, NSA, US, UN, and all that shit what to doFeb 18 01:59
msb_Could be aliens.Feb 18 01:59
icecrawlerfreemasons and illuminati before gov't tooFeb 18 01:59
icecrawleraliensFeb 18 01:59
icecrawlergrays and reptiliansFeb 18 02:00
icecrawlerGrays had Hitler kill the jews because some of them had a natural immunity to AIDSFeb 18 02:00
msb_This guy Simon Parkes is good.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4Feb 18 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | SIMON PARKES : The Project Avalon Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/glm9u ]Feb 18 02:01
msb_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igs5LahKkIQFeb 18 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Alien Agenda - What THEY don't want you to know...[Simon Parkes New Horizons 2014] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn7xa ]Feb 18 02:01
icecrawlerXFaCE told me that there were alien robotsFeb 18 02:01
icecrawlerdo yo know anything about them?Feb 18 02:02
icecrawleri've never even heard of alien robotsFeb 18 02:02
msb_Some people say that they grays are biological robots.Feb 18 02:02
icecrawleroh yeah not mechanical robotsFeb 18 02:03
icecrawlerhe might have meant the same thingFeb 18 02:03
msb_Parkes thinks the Reptilians are mostly controlling Earth, but others have a say in it too.Feb 18 02:03
msb_I found those two Parkes videos very worthwhile, and they are quite recent.Feb 18 02:03
icecrawlerinterestingFeb 18 02:03
icecrawlerI'll watch the 2014 one right nowFeb 18 02:03
icecrawlerI think Bush and Harper are reptiliansFeb 18 02:04
icecrawleryou can see it in their eyesFeb 18 02:04
msb_And don't miss that Rule from the Shadows video.  It's the best I've seen on mind control, sheeple, etc.Feb 18 02:04
icecrawlerRob Ford is like that coked out Alien in First wave that the aliens killFeb 18 02:04
icecrawlerthe one addicted to saltFeb 18 02:04
msb_Supposedly there are various human-alien hybrids.Feb 18 02:05
icecrawlerRob Ford is a mistake lolFeb 18 02:05
DaemonFCA 16 ounce glass of prune juice followed by a fiber one bar.Feb 18 02:06
*DaemonFC never had to do this before.Feb 18 02:07
DaemonFCGetting older sucks.Feb 18 02:07
msb_Who is Rob Ford?Feb 18 02:07
icecrawlerDaemonFC, you've probably been probedFeb 18 02:07
msb_DaemonFC: Hi!Feb 18 02:07
DaemonFCThe mayor of Toronto.Feb 18 02:07
msb_Are you eating enough veggies?Feb 18 02:07
DaemonFCThe crazy one that smokes crack.Feb 18 02:07
DaemonFCThe Marion Barry of Canada.Feb 18 02:08
icecrawlerhttp://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/11/05/rob_ford_yes_i_have_smoked_crack_cocaine.htmlFeb 18 02:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestar.com | Rob Ford : 'Yes, I have smoked crack cocaine.' | Toronto Star [ http://ur1.ca/gn7y1 ]Feb 18 02:08
icecrawlerxface and prurigro love the guy thoughFeb 18 02:08
DaemonFCA 16 ounce glass of prune juice, a fiber one bar, and a colace capsule seems to do the trick.Feb 18 02:09
msb_Who is the guy in First Wave with the long curly black hair?  Slightly crazy, but very smart.Feb 18 02:09
icecrawlerCrazy EddieFeb 18 02:09
msb_Yes!Feb 18 02:09
DaemonFCI guess I'm lucky that I like prune juice anyway.Feb 18 02:09
icecrawlerDaemonFC You could just eat a box of quacker chewy granola barsFeb 18 02:10
msb_DaemonFC: Is colace a suppository?Feb 18 02:10
msb_Working from the rear end is much quicker.Feb 18 02:10
DaemonFCIt's a stool softener.Feb 18 02:10
msb_Oral laxatives can kick in a day later, uncontrollably.Feb 18 02:10
DaemonFCicecrawler: If you eat more than one fiber one bar, you're going to be in trouble. Feb 18 02:11
DaemonFCYou'll start farting like you've never farted before.Feb 18 02:11
msb_You can also stick your finger up your ass if the nail is short and the blockage is just inside.Feb 18 02:11
DaemonFCewwwFeb 18 02:11
msb_Or if you're an engineer you can work it out with a sliderule.Feb 18 02:12
DaemonFCI think I'd rather just drink the prune juice.Feb 18 02:12
DaemonFCI don't know why people say it's disgusting.Feb 18 02:12
icecrawlerDaemonFC had too busy of a nightFeb 18 02:12
XFaCEDaemonFC: gee worfFeb 18 02:12
DaemonFCTastes like raisins.Feb 18 02:12
msb_Sure, if you want to stay at home for a couple of days so you can run to the toilet.Feb 18 02:12
msb_I like the taste too.Feb 18 02:13
msb_When you wash your hand, the shit is gone.Feb 18 02:13
msb_You have pounds of it inside you anyhow.Feb 18 02:14
msb_Just consider it as fertilizer.Feb 18 02:14
msb_It's the Cycle of Life.Feb 18 02:14
msb_Anyhow, a glycerin or other suppository isn't messy and works in an hour or less.Feb 18 02:15
DaemonFCIt's disgusting and proof against intelligent design.Feb 18 02:16
msb_It's proof you're not eating enough fiber.Feb 18 02:16
DaemonFCAn intelligent designer could have come up with something better than eating and then taking a shit, then losing consciousness for 8 hours a day.Feb 18 02:16
msb_He loves us in his own way.Feb 18 02:16
msb_-- What's Up Tiger LilyFeb 18 02:17
msb_Having a mouth and an ass is much better than only having a mouth.Feb 18 02:17
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwNDMFeb 18 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] No License Needed For Kubuntu Derivatives [ http://ur1.ca/gn8mq ]Feb 18 04:51
DaemonFCCanonical claims you need to pay them for a license to use their packages for another distribution.Feb 18 04:52
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msb_Wow!  Another reason to stay away from Ubuntu completely.Feb 18 04:56
msb_In addition to a GUI designed for a doorstop -er- tablet, and general sloppy engineering.Feb 18 04:57
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwNDEFeb 18 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ubuntu To Abandon Upstart, Switch To Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/gmqn8 ]Feb 18 05:06
DaemonFCIt's better that upstart is dead.Feb 18 05:06
DaemonFCsystemd doesn't have a Contributor License Agreement.Feb 18 05:06
msb_Canonical just does not have the Linux Spirit, which is SHARE EVERYTHING.Feb 18 05:09
icecrawlercanonical is probably working with the grays, they have stuff like keylogging built in and on by defaultFeb 18 05:09
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MinceR022733 < icecrawler> damn mirc keeps harassing me about being 55 days into my 30 day trialFeb 18 06:52
MinceR022741 < icecrawler> i thought free software was open source and shitFeb 18 06:52
MinceRmirc isn't free software, never wasFeb 18 06:52
DaemonFChttp://www.upworthy.com/that-iphone-in-your-pocket-youd-be-surprised-where-the-money-goes-when-you-buy-it?c=cd1Feb 18 06:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.upworthy.com | That iPhone In Your Pocket? You’d Be Surprised Where The Money Goes When You Buy It. [ http://ur1.ca/gn92s ]Feb 18 06:56
DaemonFCicecrawler: I believe that HexChat works on Windows.Feb 18 06:59
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MinceRso does kvircFeb 18 07:07
MinceRand i've read about windows versions of irssiFeb 18 07:08
MinceRthen again, getting rid of windows is even better :>Feb 18 07:08
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iophkhttp://www.ibtimes.co.uk/edward-snowdens-lawyer-claims-harassment-heathrow-airport-border-police-1436781Feb 18 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Edward Snowden's Lawyer Claims Harassment from Heathrow Airport Border Police [ http://ur1.ca/gn9d7 ]Feb 18 07:43
roy_gde33: pretty muchFeb 18 07:47
roy_but then it's low encrypt to begin withFeb 18 07:47
roy_re [08:57] <gde33> best encryption is if there is nothing in the messageFeb 18 07:47
roy_Took me 4 hours last night investigating why twitter no longer syndicated, leading to the most annoying issue to debug, trailing space in some unnmamed php source fileFeb 18 07:48
roy_Found in the least expected placeFeb 18 07:48
roy_[01:55] <DaemonFC> While horrible, 22 people isn't a huge body count for an Abrahamic religion. The teen would have to murder 22 people, per day, for several thousand years, to catch up to the current body count of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. The so-called "religions of peace". And that doesn't count keeping up with the increasing body count of the Big Three over that time period. 22 per day would actually leave Satanism falling behind Feb 18 07:49
roy_the others. Someone Feb 18 07:49
roy_Shock value=10Feb 18 07:49
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MinceR:>Feb 18 07:53
roy_0Feb 18 08:18
roy_[01:41] <icecrawler> Being able to use a sniper rifle on JFK doesn't really mean you know anything about the holograms used during 9/11Feb 18 08:18
roy_Oh, I see we had a troll here last nightFeb 18 08:18
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3655806Feb 18 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 18 08:29
roy_Well done. I wonder where this was shot?"77"Feb 18 08:29
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Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/security/2014/02/dear-asus-router-user-youve-been-pwned-thanks-to-easily-exploited-flaw/Feb 18 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Dear Asus router user: You’ve been pwned, thanks to easily exploited flaw | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gnatq ]Feb 18 11:24
Sosumiand now asus routersFeb 18 11:24
SosumiI actually wander how airport and time capsule routers are doingFeb 18 11:25
Sosumigiven apple's total disdain for actual securityFeb 18 11:25
Sosumiand uber slowness in getting things fixedFeb 18 11:25
SosumiDrPizza, just being there stalking is kind of lameFeb 18 11:32
Sosumiat least say a joke from time to timeFeb 18 11:32
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gde33roy_: maybe previously shared garbage could be used if a real connection is established later?Feb 18 11:48
icecrawlerDrPizza doesn't talk here because everything is monitored by the GCHQFeb 18 12:46
msb_Who is DrPizza?  I have a vague recollection that he's some bad guy from COLA.Feb 18 12:48
icecrawlerHe does the conspiracy theory section on Ars TechnicaFeb 18 12:49
icecrawlerhes a libertarian conspiracy theorist though, right wing free market guyFeb 18 12:49
icecrawlerkind of like Alex JonesFeb 18 12:49
msb_He wouldn't be an anti-Linux guy on comp.os.linux.advocacy then.  None of them are very bright.Feb 18 12:50
icecrawlerhe is anti linuxFeb 18 12:50
icecrawlerhe thinks his powermac g4 is too old to be spied onFeb 18 12:50
icecrawlerthats what he usesFeb 18 12:50
icecrawler"if I can't even find the latest firefox for OSX 10.4.8 what chances are the government is spying on me" -DrPizzaFeb 18 12:51
gde33sounds like a typical tech blogger lolFeb 18 12:51
msb_Funny!Feb 18 12:52
MinceRconsidering that he props up msft and mpeg la, he can't be much of a "libertarian" :>Feb 18 12:52
msb_gde33: I'd think most are smarter than that.Feb 18 12:52
gde33MinceR: people dont really remember what all the big words meanFeb 18 12:52
MinceR:>Feb 18 12:52
msb_"Libertarians" who think that corporations are people will come to some very bad conclusions.Feb 18 12:53
icecrawlerwell he was trying to convince me the other day UEFI secure boot could help you from a government evil maid attackFeb 18 12:54
gde33msb_: journalism is all about attention, not about being right, it helpts being wrong actually. :PFeb 18 12:54
gde33I will never forget this article "The linuxification of windows has begun"Feb 18 12:54
MinceRicecrawler: it couldn't, thoughFeb 18 12:54
icecrawlerMinceR: his arguement was that if you used your own key for secure boot you could lock out unauthorized dvd and usb boot disksFeb 18 12:55
icecrawlerlike hirens boot cdFeb 18 12:55
MinceRand then they could replace your keyFeb 18 12:55
icecrawlerwhich takes passwords off your machineFeb 18 12:55
MinceRor they could break into your osFeb 18 12:55
icecrawlerreplace your key and your OS wouldnt bootFeb 18 12:55
icecrawlerthe OS looks for itFeb 18 12:55
MinceRthe os they'll put in will, thoughFeb 18 12:55
MinceRor hypervisorFeb 18 12:55
MinceRand then boots your os, or just looks like it didFeb 18 12:56
msb_So a "maid attack" is your house-maid putting a disk in your computer?Feb 18 12:56
icecrawleryes msb_Feb 18 12:56
MinceRand of course if all else fails, they could replace your computer with an identical looking copy, up to the point where it asks for your disk encryption passwordFeb 18 12:56
gde33lolFeb 18 12:56
icecrawlermincer thinks a maid knows how to install vmwareFeb 18 12:56
icecrawlershes a woman, she can barely figure out that USB isn't UBSFeb 18 12:56
MinceRafaik "evil maid attacks" aren't thought of as untrained maids trying to exploit your systemFeb 18 12:56
MinceRphysical access is the pointFeb 18 12:57
icecrawleractually they areFeb 18 12:57
icecrawlerthey have sex with you, and when you flush the condom down the toilet they are putting usb disks in your computerFeb 18 12:57
MinceRthat's it?Feb 18 12:57
icecrawlerand pressing buttonsFeb 18 12:58
gde33hahaFeb 18 12:58
MinceRin that case, any computer with no usb ports would be omfg-secureFeb 18 12:58
icecrawlerthey only have like 30 secondsFeb 18 12:58
MinceRi happen to have such omfg-secure computers in the cupboard and in the basementFeb 18 12:58
gde33MinceR: a fake usb port to detect maid attacksFeb 18 12:58
icecrawlerjust replacing the key would take like 10 minutesFeb 18 12:58
msb_Rosa Klebb in "From Russia with Love".Feb 18 12:58
MinceRreplacing the computer could happen more quickly :>Feb 18 12:58
icecrawlerbut this was DrPizza's arguementFeb 18 12:59
icecrawlerin the endFeb 18 12:59
icecrawlerI was just like "well how does it stand up to a wrench exploit?"Feb 18 12:59
MinceR:>Feb 18 12:59
icecrawler"Wrench Exploit?" says DrPizzaFeb 18 12:59
icecrawlerWhere you beat their passwords out of them with a wrenchFeb 18 13:00
MinceRnah, that's Rubber-Hose CryptanalysisFeb 18 13:00
SosumilolFeb 18 13:00
MinceRi thought the wrench was applied to the computerFeb 18 13:00
icecrawlerwrench > rubber hoseFeb 18 13:00
gde33so the system needs hooking into the nervous systemFeb 18 13:00
icecrawlernot talking chinese wrenchFeb 18 13:00
gde33then it can lock it self in maid sex modeFeb 18 13:00
icecrawlermurican, so its metalFeb 18 13:00
MinceR:DFeb 18 13:01
MinceRi suspect you can cause more pain with the same amount of damage with a rubber hoseFeb 18 13:01
msb_Ick!  That Satanism is contagious.Feb 18 13:01
gde33we should set up a course to train security experts pain treasholdFeb 18 13:01
gde33imagine the lulzFeb 18 13:02
gde33water boarding 101Feb 18 13:02
msb_forced Windows usageFeb 18 13:02
msb_DRM everywhereFeb 18 13:03
MinceRthey're doing that alreadyFeb 18 13:03
msb_yupFeb 18 13:03
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msb_A couple years ago a DVD wouldn't play on my computer (turned out to be a bad drive), and when I took it to a friend's Windows machine, it wouldn't play it until I swore to it that I'd bought it legally.Feb 18 13:05
gde33so we really need to go to space for data securityFeb 18 13:05
msb_For life security, in case they blow up the Earth.Feb 18 13:05
gde33I think you are overreacting :PFeb 18 13:08
msb_gde33: Regarding being wrong to increase the audience in journalism:  We live in a world where most people are deluded about what's actually going on.  So one can appeal to them by repeating the lies they believe.  But the job of a real journalist is to wake people up to the truth.Feb 18 13:08
MinceRreal journalists are very rareFeb 18 13:09
msb_We can all strive to be one.Feb 18 13:09
gde33you mean join the terrorists?Feb 18 13:09
MinceRgde33: we already are the turrists, didn't you notice? :>Feb 18 13:09
icecrawleryou can learn to waterboard on the piratebayFeb 18 13:10
msb_Some government agencies have declared 9-11 researchers and upholders of the Constitution to be "terrorists".Feb 18 13:11
MinceRand people who pay in cashFeb 18 13:12
MinceRand people who protect their privacy onlineFeb 18 13:12
msb_But we now know that the US govt is supporting the "Al-qaeda" terrorists attacking Syria.Feb 18 13:12
gde33the truth was that his wife killed JFKFeb 18 13:13
msb_That makes Obama the Chief Terrorist.Feb 18 13:13
gde33from point blank range, by putting a gun to his headFeb 18 13:13
msb_Not in the Zapruder film.Feb 18 13:14
gde33what I mean, I dont think one would get a lot of readers with the turthFeb 18 13:14
gde33msb_: sure, just lookFeb 18 13:14
gde33she even picks up the shellFeb 18 13:14
msb_She tries to pick up pieces of brain or bone.Feb 18 13:15
gde33first they give him a sandwich with poison, to make her job easierFeb 18 13:15
gde33msb_: would you?Feb 18 13:15
msb_gde33: The JFK killing has been thoroughly researched.Feb 18 13:16
msb_Would I what?Feb 18 13:16
gde33pick up the brainFeb 18 13:16
gde33does it make any sense at all to do that?Feb 18 13:16
msb_Wouldn't do much good.Feb 18 13:16
msb_He was knocked down before she reacted.Feb 18 13:17
msb_And one may not think clearly in the few seconds after one's husband/President is shot in the head.Feb 18 13:18
msb_There's no point in being a journalist unless you tell the truth.Feb 18 13:19
msb_BTW, check out the new colored areas on my homepage:  http://cosmicpenguin.comFeb 18 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 18 13:20
msb_Note the fine margins.  Took some work.  Feb 18 13:20
msb_Only tag I could find that does background colors is <td>.Feb 18 13:21
gde33but it is to obvious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCNe3t1U8Es#t=45sFeb 18 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | JFK was murdered by his wife - Jacqueline The Jesuit Assassin - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gnbol ]Feb 18 13:23
gde33msb_: I think a bit to much white spaceFeb 18 13:24
iophkhttp://www.datamation.com/applications/life-without-a-windows-desktop-1.htmlFeb 18 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Life without a Windows Desktop - Datamation [ http://ur1.ca/gnbot ]Feb 18 13:24
msb_gde33: I'll be moving a lot more stuff from the white area to the colored ones.  I've just started.Feb 18 13:25
gde33I mean on the right of the pageFeb 18 13:26
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gde33msb_: but good readability with the bg colorsFeb 18 13:28
msb_gde33: I've kept it below 800 pix wide so it fits small screens without horizontal scrolling.Feb 18 13:29
gde33gave me an intersting idea to float content boxes to the leftFeb 18 13:29
msb_Thanks!  I made the bg colors pale so the text can be read easily.Feb 18 13:30
gde33try making the Result area bigger http://jsfiddle.net/gaby_de_wilde/fN9KC/Feb 18 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jsfiddle.net | Edit fiddle - JSFiddleFeb 18 13:32
msb_gde33: Nice!  I guess I should at least have a vertical TOC on one side or the other.  Is there a tag for making things float or do you have to use PHP?Feb 18 13:37
gde33sure, you just float it with cssFeb 18 13:37
msb_Thanks!Feb 18 13:37
gde33https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/floatFeb 18 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | float - CSS | MDN [ http://ur1.ca/gnbsq ]Feb 18 13:38
gde33the channels #css #html5 ##javascript are pretty useful if you are not in a hurryFeb 18 13:41
msb_gde33: Will that move the floated blocks vertically to keep them in view when I scroll way down the page?Feb 18 13:43
gde33fixed positioning is something different Feb 18 13:44
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msb_gde33: I want the TOC to stay in view as I scroll down a tall page.  Is there a way to do that without PHP?Feb 18 13:45
gde33php only makes html pages, it isn't involved in stylingFeb 18 13:46
gde33https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/positionFeb 18 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | position - CSS | MDN [ http://ur1.ca/gnbw8 ]Feb 18 13:47
msb_Ruby on Rails?  Hypnosis?Feb 18 13:47
gde33sorry?Feb 18 13:47
icecrawlerruby on rails sounds like coding on cokeFeb 18 13:47
MinceR"hypnosis", the new web framework? :>Feb 18 13:48
gde33msb_: the server side language only makes the html pages, the styling is in the css, layout is in the htmlFeb 18 13:48
msb_This looks good, under "fixed" -- "position it at a specified position relative to the screen's viewport"Feb 18 13:49
gde33yes, that is what you want :)Feb 18 13:50
msb_Yes, the illo under "Fixed positioning" shows it.  Many thanks gde33!Feb 18 13:51
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gde33dont make it to long, people wont be able to get to the bottom end if their screen is to smallFeb 18 13:53
msb_Oooh this is gonna be so hot!Feb 18 13:53
gde33hahaFeb 18 13:53
Sosumiwhat? didn't the william greer murder jfk?Feb 18 13:53
Sosumithat is what can be deduced from the zepruder filmFeb 18 13:54
msb_The TOC will only have 6 or so entries -- color coded and linked to the big color boxes.Feb 18 13:54
gde33niceFeb 18 13:55
icecrawlermsb_ jews shot jfk?Feb 18 13:55
icecrawlerJFK was murdered by his wife - Jacqueline The Jesuit Assassin - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/gnbol ]Feb 18 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | JFK was murdered by his wife - Jacqueline The Jesuit Assassin - YouTubeFeb 18 13:55
SosumilolFeb 18 13:55
msb_icecrawler: No, but they are hiding under your bed and are gonna GETCHA!Feb 18 13:56
iophkhttp://news.sciencemag.org/europe/2014/02/royal-society-joins-open-access-bandwagonFeb 18 13:56
iophkhttp://news.sciencemag.org/people-events/2014/02/aaas-launches-open-access-journalFeb 18 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sciencemag.org | Royal Society Joins Open-Access Bandwagon | Science/AAAS | News [ http://ur1.ca/gnbyq ]Feb 18 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sciencemag.org | AAAS Launches Open-Access Journal | Science/AAAS | News [ http://ur1.ca/gnbys ]Feb 18 13:57
msb_Jews are the only ones who have direct contact with the genocidal dominator god Jehovah.Feb 18 13:57
msb_The evil demiurge.Feb 18 13:57
msb_Probably just some Reptilian with a good stage act.Feb 18 13:58
msb_evil and convincing, not goodFeb 18 13:59
MinceRprobably just a figment of someone's imaginationFeb 18 14:00
icecrawlermsb_ could be mantids tooFeb 18 14:00
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/leaseweb-sued-for-hosting-megaupload-140217/Feb 18 14:02
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/nsa-authorized-monitoring-of-pirate-bay-and-proxy-users-140218/Feb 18 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | LeaseWeb Sued For Hosting Megaupload and Other "Pirate" Websites | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gnc10 ]Feb 18 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | NSA Authorized Monitoring of Pirate Bay and Proxy Users | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gnc11 ]Feb 18 14:02
msb_According to Simon Parkes, the mantids are cool and intellectual.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igs5LahKkIQFeb 18 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | SIMON PARKES : The Project Avalon Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/glm9u ]Feb 18 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Alien Agenda - What THEY don't want you to know...[Simon Parkes New Horizons 2014] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn7xa ]Feb 18 14:03
gde33the open access journals are good news :)Feb 18 14:04
msb_Parkes is very convincing.  Those two videos are great.Feb 18 14:05
msb_gde33:  open access journals?Feb 18 14:05
msb_(BTW, I was just kidding about Jews.)Feb 18 14:06
gde33what iophk saidFeb 18 14:06
icecrawlerSteve Greer is awesome tooFeb 18 14:06
msb_gde33: The torrentfreak links?Feb 18 14:07
icecrawlermsb_ I think the guy with the cowboy hat in project avalon is an alienFeb 18 14:07
gde33no the 2 before thatFeb 18 14:08
MinceRillegal alien?Feb 18 14:09
MinceRdey took our jerbs!Feb 18 14:09
msb_gde33: Oh, right!  Open access journals -- Richard Stallman strikes again!  (indirectly)Feb 18 14:11
msb_MinceR: They took our jobs, but brought us some herbs!Feb 18 14:12
MinceR:>Feb 18 14:12
msb_What's the name of that other interview project, like Avalon?  I get the two confused.Feb 18 14:13
gde33camelotFeb 18 14:13
MinceRon second thought, let's not go to camelot. 'tis a silly place.Feb 18 14:13
msb_Yup, Camelot.  Thanks!Feb 18 14:14
gde33MinceR: if your bs filter doesn't work I would stay away from it. Otherwise it is facinating stuff.Feb 18 14:17
gde33if only to see what people can be made to believe happenedFeb 18 14:17
MinceRgde33: have you seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail? :>Feb 18 14:17
gde33sureFeb 18 14:18
gde33debriefing with brainwashing is both easy and effective, victims are less funny than people think, arguably brainwashed to laugh at that?Feb 18 14:19
gde33hard not to laugh sometimesFeb 18 14:20
gde33like 2 guys run into annother in a bar, they know lots of personal details about annother but have never met.Feb 18 14:21
msb_" the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.Feb 18 14:21
msb_-- Steven Greer quoting (sorry) Steve JobsFeb 18 14:22
msb_I'm an intellectual socialist.  From each according to his ability.  Some people have some good, even unique, ideas, even though they also put out a lot of crap.Feb 18 14:23
msb_Alex Jones is another.Feb 18 14:24
msb_afk; brb; MgCFeb 18 14:25
SosumiI think you guys should stop drinking :)Feb 18 14:28
icecrawler^ drinking lolFeb 18 14:36
icecrawleryou mainstream typesFeb 18 14:36
icecrawlerthink there is something wrong with people who think outside the boxFeb 18 14:37
icecrawleryou wouldn't believe in the mantids unless they were on CNNFeb 18 14:37
SosumiCartoon News Network?Feb 18 14:38
icecrawlerwatch this video mother fucker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4Feb 18 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | SIMON PARKES : The Project Avalon Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/glm9u ]Feb 18 14:39
Sosumiánd lol don't tell me you believe in the ET crapFeb 18 14:39
Sosumiand on con artists like David Ike and Alex JonesFeb 18 14:40
icecrawlerdude the "ET crap" is the truthFeb 18 14:40
Sosumiyeah rightFeb 18 14:40
Sosumiif you wanted to conceal advanced craft surely you would say "maybe they come from outer space"Feb 18 14:41
Sosumiand have a couple of nuttjobs following some guroFeb 18 14:41
Sosumilike again, David Ike or Alex JonesFeb 18 14:41
icecrawlerwhat about all the whistleblowersFeb 18 14:41
SosumiliesFeb 18 14:41
icecrawlerhundreds of ex airforce and ex navy solidersFeb 18 14:41
Sosumidisinfo agentsFeb 18 14:42
icecrawlerso hundreds of people are lying?Feb 18 14:42
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SosumiyesFeb 18 14:42
icecrawlersounds like a massive conspiracy to spread a lieFeb 18 14:42
icecrawlerconspiracy theoristFeb 18 14:42
iophkor just a lot of kooksFeb 18 14:42
icecrawlermantids killed jfkFeb 18 14:42
Sosumididn't the CIA take control of the religious broadcasts?Feb 18 14:43
iophktake it elsewhereFeb 18 14:43
icecrawlermsb_ might be the mantid that didFeb 18 14:43
Sosumispreading BS like "we are in the end times, bow down do nothing and read Romans 13"Feb 18 14:43
Sosumiit's all crapFeb 18 14:43
Sosumiand again, if you want to conceal advanced military hardwareFeb 18 14:44
icecrawlerthe mainstream media is all crapFeb 18 14:44
Sosumispecially of the kind that fliesFeb 18 14:44
Sosumithe best excuse is ETsFeb 18 14:44
icecrawlersame with all the brainwashing the reptilians do to keep people under controlFeb 18 14:44
Sosumisimply because of how gullible the ppeople areFeb 18 14:45
gde33I would compare our picture of aliens with the ants in my garden figuring out humansFeb 18 14:45
Sosumiyes reptilian, bewareFeb 18 14:45
Sosumithe queen of britain might turn in lizard the ripper and come to eat your soulFeb 18 14:46
Sosumiand your babiesFeb 18 14:46
Sosumiand your dogFeb 18 14:46
Sosumiand DrPizza's pizzaFeb 18 14:46
gde33I think the discussion is more about people being unable to get over first impressionsFeb 18 14:46
gde33you dont have to bother telling the atheist about god or the christian about the lack of godFeb 18 14:47
gde33so lets stick to the science? :DFeb 18 14:48
Sosumione is an entrenched belief built under the impressions of natureFeb 18 14:49
Sosumialiens are nonsenseFeb 18 14:49
gde33that is your first impressionFeb 18 14:50
gde33when you arrive at something being nonsense you also render yourself unable to investigateFeb 18 14:50
gde33investigating nonsense isn't going to happenFeb 18 14:50
Sosumialiens are nonsenseFeb 18 14:51
Sosumiso yes you can't investigate thatFeb 18 14:51
gde33you can investigate anythingFeb 18 14:51
gde33if you are able to keep an open mind, you can investigateFeb 18 14:52
Sosumibut for you having and "open mind" is accepting BSFeb 18 14:53
Sosumilike aliensFeb 18 14:53
gde33it is only BS for youFeb 18 14:53
icecrawlerfunny enough DrPizza was telling me this stuff the other dayFeb 18 14:53
gde33not for the researchers, some even believe there is something to itFeb 18 14:53
icecrawlerI was a skeptic but he convinced me mantids were realFeb 18 14:53
gde33hah, how did he do that?Feb 18 14:54
icecrawlerI've been abducted by one, I found outFeb 18 14:54
icecrawlerhe did a hypnosis session over skype with meFeb 18 14:54
gde33ahh so it isn't something you can proveFeb 18 14:54
icecrawlerDrPizza is pretty legitFeb 18 14:55
icecrawlerhe showed me this reptile brain he has in a jarFeb 18 14:55
SosumiyesFeb 18 14:56
Sosumithe brain he kept from his deceased iguanaFeb 18 14:56
gde33but you cant prove it is a reptilian brainFeb 18 14:56
Sosumiso an iguana doesn't have a brain?Feb 18 14:57
icecrawleryeah he did prove it was a reptile brainFeb 18 14:57
Sosuminor a snake?Feb 18 14:57
gde33but now that we have established you cant do research, then your conclusion is not based on research either.Feb 18 14:57
gde33hahaFeb 18 14:57
icecrawlerhe put the brain in an MRI machine over skype and killed some animals in front of itFeb 18 14:57
icecrawlerno empathy area of the brainFeb 18 14:58
Sosumiwhat about the micro$oft brain?Feb 18 14:58
gde33that is all anecdotalFeb 18 14:58
gde33lolFeb 18 14:58
gde33LO is goodFeb 18 14:59
gde33http://www.resologist.net/loei.htm   THE BOOK OF THE DAMNEDFeb 18 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.resologist.net | Lo!: A Hypertext Edition of Charles Hoy Fort's BookFeb 18 15:00
MinceRlolFeb 18 15:00
Sosumiwould DrPizza lend himself over to us for a high res MRIFeb 18 15:00
icecrawleranecdotal doesn't mean it didn't happenFeb 18 15:00
gde33it means we should accuse you of making stuff upFeb 18 15:00
gde33lolFeb 18 15:00
icecrawlerno it does notFeb 18 15:01
icecrawlerlook it upFeb 18 15:01
MinceRthis brain "experiment" sounds like Look Around YouFeb 18 15:01
gde33videos or it never happenedFeb 18 15:01
Sosumiso we can conduct tests on a sumulated copy of his brainFeb 18 15:01
icecrawlerjust means you can't take it as the only evidenceFeb 18 15:01
icecrawleryou can look at old egyptian runes thenFeb 18 15:01
icecrawlerwith reptilians drawn on themFeb 18 15:01
gde33many abductees talk with their psychatrist about itFeb 18 15:01
gde33the psychatrists talk about their patients, compare the casesFeb 18 15:02
gde33there is much consistency between the many casesFeb 18 15:02
icecrawlerwhen I was abducted my arm set of metal detectors for a few years until the chip disolvedFeb 18 15:02
gde33the best evidence is their number and that they are traumatised durring sleepFeb 18 15:02
gde33dreams dont produce life time traumasFeb 18 15:02
gde33I'm not saying it proves anythingFeb 18 15:03
gde33to argue with that you would have to be one of the psychatrists, able to discuss your patient professionally.Feb 18 15:03
gde33anything else is just pseudoscienceFeb 18 15:04
SosumilolFeb 18 15:04
Sosumiall human "sciences" are pseudosciencesFeb 18 15:04
icecrawleranything else is just reptilian propaganda mother fuckerFeb 18 15:04
gde33we had estabished you couldn't even do researchFeb 18 15:05
gde33lolFeb 18 15:05
gde33not that I would argue any of it is realFeb 18 15:05
icecrawlerpsychiatrists work for the graysFeb 18 15:05
gde33I believe there is true, false and unknownFeb 18 15:05
gde33unknown seems hard to get used to for peepsFeb 18 15:05
icecrawlermost people talk about area 51 but studio 54 has the real aliensFeb 18 15:06
MinceRicecrawler: let me guess... Xenu!Feb 18 15:06
msb_back nowFeb 18 15:07
msb_I knew a guy who discovered a room-temperature superconductor material -- titanium boride, IIRC.  Written up in Electronics magazine around 1980.Feb 18 15:08
gde33I admit facination with the abductions with implantsFeb 18 15:09
msb_Funny thing is, he was working at Wright-Patterson AFB, where the Roswell saucer was taken.Feb 18 15:09
icecrawlersounds like frozen thermite at 9/11 kooksFeb 18 15:09
gde33frozen?Feb 18 15:09
msb_But he denied being handed a piece of material and asked to duplicate it.Feb 18 15:10
Sosumi#techrights was invaded by UFOolsFeb 18 15:10
icecrawlergde33: yeah it sounds nutty alreadyFeb 18 15:10
gde33icecrawler: sounds like someone didn't read his conspiracy magazine properlyFeb 18 15:10
icecrawlergde33: DrPizza and msb_ debated with me over frozen thermite, where the government had mixed dry ice with thermiteFeb 18 15:10
icecrawlergde33: apparently it gets hot in reverse and freezes things so even a kick shatters themFeb 18 15:11
msb_"Frozen thermite" is total BS.Feb 18 15:11
Sosumi*frozen pizzaFeb 18 15:11
icecrawleri didnt believe it eitherFeb 18 15:11
gde33there is the milion dollar challange for anyone who can collapse a structure by dropping the top 2 floors on top of it.Feb 18 15:11
icecrawlerim in the camp that says 9/11 was aliens, and holograms made the UFO's look like human 747'sFeb 18 15:12
msb_Thermite is just  Al + Fe2O3Feb 18 15:12
msb_Freezing it wouldn't do anything, except make it a little harder to light.Feb 18 15:12
icecrawlermsb_ add dry ice to the mathFeb 18 15:12
gde33cutting reinforced steel with aluminum is funnyFeb 18 15:13
icecrawlerit works on paperFeb 18 15:13
gde33tears from laughterFeb 18 15:13
msb_Al is a very high energy fuel.  It will cut through almost anything.Feb 18 15:14
icecrawleryeah so the idea is that the frozen thermite froze the beams supercold and the aluminum was able to take it downFeb 18 15:14
gde33msb_: Kelvin was right, flying machines are impossible. :DFeb 18 15:14
icecrawlerbut why do you need some deus ex like frozen thermite when aliens can blow up a building with their alien weaponsFeb 18 15:14
icecrawlerholograms made it look like 474'sFeb 18 15:15
icecrawler747'sFeb 18 15:15
msb_Read here:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/Feb 18 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli GovernmentsFeb 18 15:15
icecrawlermsb_ disinfoFeb 18 15:15
icecrawlerthere were no planesFeb 18 15:15
msb_And here:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911Feb 18 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 18 15:16
iophkmsb_, icecrawler, take it to your own channel not hereFeb 18 15:16
icecrawleriophk this is my channelFeb 18 15:16
gde33this indeed doesn't seem a good channel for this stuffFeb 18 15:16
iophkit's not ufool channelFeb 18 15:16
gde33not desirable to have hereFeb 18 15:16
icecrawlerim shane, roy works for meFeb 18 15:16
iophktake it off this channelFeb 18 15:16
icecrawleri invented techrightsFeb 18 15:16
icecrawlerit was Conspiracy, UFOlogy, Microsoft Dirty Deeds, SuSE, SCO and BaconFeb 18 15:17
gde33hahahaFeb 18 15:17
icecrawlerbefore boycott-novell it was boycott-maj12Feb 18 15:18
icecrawlerso u gtfoFeb 18 15:18
*iophk has kicked icecrawler from #techrights ('take it elsewhere')Feb 18 15:18
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icecrawleriophk works for majestic 12Feb 18 15:19
gde33icecrawler: there is ##ufo and even ##conspiracy Feb 18 15:19
icecrawlerso much for tech freedomFeb 18 15:19
icecrawlerno rights hereFeb 18 15:19
gde33there areFeb 18 15:20
gde33it just doesn't make a good channel if you bring topics like thatFeb 18 15:20
icecrawlernobody has talked here in like a yearFeb 18 15:20
msb_icecrawler: You wouldn't get kicked if  you didn't keep spouting BS.Feb 18 15:20
icecrawlernow you're censoring the channel because you don't like to hear truthFeb 18 15:20
gde33I'm here for the links :)Feb 18 15:21
*iophk sets ban on *!icebawler@192-0-199-27.cpe.teksavvy.comFeb 18 15:21
icecrawleryeah talking about the fake planes always get me kickedFeb 18 15:21
gde33going to say nothing for a while nowFeb 18 15:21
icecrawlertill i talk to royFeb 18 15:21
icecrawlerroy doesnt censorFeb 18 15:21
icecrawlerill be backFeb 18 15:21
MinceRlol @ frozen thermiteFeb 18 15:23
icecrawlerfor the record: you guys are ok with msb blaming 9/11 on jews but I get kicked for saying aliens?Feb 18 15:23
MinceRiophk: the banmask doesn't allow for the ~ (from no identd)Feb 18 15:23
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iophkmincer: yeah, I'm on purple right now not konversation, not much is automatedFeb 18 15:24
icecrawlerhow about you just leave me aloneFeb 18 15:25
icecrawlerand ill shut up about ufosFeb 18 15:25
MinceRhow about you just leave us aloneFeb 18 15:25
icecrawlermark invited me hereFeb 18 15:25
icecrawlerto talk about free softwareFeb 18 15:25
icecrawlerwe got sidetrackedFeb 18 15:25
MinceRwhich mark?Feb 18 15:25
icecrawlermsbFeb 18 15:25
MinceRmsb?Feb 18 15:25
MinceRicFeb 18 15:26
gde33then dont side trackFeb 18 15:26
icecrawlerokFeb 18 15:26
icecrawlercentos7 is starting to look niceFeb 18 15:27
*icecrawler is a centos packagerFeb 18 15:27
gde33I think the world needs a windows vm with a linux distro preloaded, something like ubuntu.Feb 18 16:07
gde33then we windos users could finally learn how to use ubuntuFeb 18 16:07
iophkWubi used to be around for that.Feb 18 16:08
iophknot a VM thoughFeb 18 16:08
gde33I know, it is nice but not a vm indeedFeb 18 16:08
iophkpre-packaged images for VirtualBox and (I think) qemu exist,Feb 18 16:08
gde33I'm pointing at starting all over at computer powerlevel 0Feb 18 16:08
gde33armed with my windos apps I can attack any problem and learn any thingFeb 18 16:09
iophkbut the act of installing is instructive, too.  It's very simple and has been so for years.Feb 18 16:09
gde33if I boot ubuntu I just dont know wtf is going onFeb 18 16:09
iophkCan you run VirtualBox?Feb 18 16:09
gde33I can do this here http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/11287/how-to-run-ubuntu-in-windows-7-with-vmware-player/Feb 18 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | How To Run Ubuntu in Windows 7 with VMware Player [ http://ur1.ca/gnd6t ]Feb 18 16:09
gde33but that is a lot to ask from a windos userFeb 18 16:09
iophkvmware is not greatFeb 18 16:10
gde33mounting an iso and installing itFeb 18 16:10
iophkWith VirtualBox, you can click on the disc image to use for the initial boot of the VMFeb 18 16:10
iophkif you use an installer image then you install...Feb 18 16:10
gde33would it be possible to boot the same install as the one in the vm?Feb 18 16:11
iophkYou could boot the installed image in the VM after it is installed.  Feb 18 16:11
iophkOr during the installation, if the disc image is a "live" image you can run a live session instead.Feb 18 16:11
iophkhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualboxFeb 18 16:12
gde33that would totally take the pain out of migration?Feb 18 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.psychocats.net | Installing Ubuntu inside Windows using VirtualBoxFeb 18 16:12
iophkMost instructions are for putting Windows guests on a Linux host.Feb 18 16:12
iophkThe core of VirtualBox is FOSSFeb 18 16:13
iophkand it's cross-platformFeb 18 16:13
iophkso you can move your VM to another host laterFeb 18 16:13
iophkSince you are starting out, try using snapshots so you can undo experiments and mistakes.Feb 18 16:14
gde33good planFeb 18 16:15
iophkIf you want a preview of the next Ubuntu LTS, it is approaching beta already.  Or Mageia 4 was just released if you like RPM instead of APT.  Feb 18 16:16
icecrawlerwindows 8 comes with hyper-v, just use thatFeb 18 16:26
iophkIt's not  portable and probably does not work properly anyway.Feb 18 16:31
icecrawlerliesFeb 18 16:32
msb_Folks, I snoozed off, woke up just now, and reviewed what's been said.  I DID NOT INVITE ICECRAWLER HERE!!!Feb 18 16:32
msb_He's lying!Feb 18 16:32
iophkhttp://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Linux_Guest_System_Support_under_Hyper-VFeb 18 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thomas-krenn.com | Linux Guest System Support under Hyper-V - Thomas Krenn Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/gndcb ]Feb 18 16:32
icecrawlersee iophkFeb 18 16:32
icecrawlerworks fineFeb 18 16:32
iophkonly for certain versionsFeb 18 16:33
icecrawleranything made in the last yearFeb 18 16:33
icecrawlercentos 6.3 and upFeb 18 16:33
icecrawlerfedora since 18Feb 18 16:33
iophkVirtualBox is portable to other systems and older versions not just Vista8Feb 18 16:33
icecrawlerwho wants to run old linux distrosFeb 18 16:33
icecrawlervirtualbox is also slow as ballsFeb 18 16:34
icecrawlerhyper-v files can be used in vmware tooFeb 18 16:34
icecrawlervmware and hyper-v are the only vm systems that matter anywayFeb 18 16:35
iophkno one uses vmware now that virtualbox is availableFeb 18 16:35
icecrawlerwrongFeb 18 16:35
icecrawlervmware is used by business when they want speed instead of hippiesFeb 18 16:35
icecrawlervirtualbox, again, is slow as ballsFeb 18 16:36
icecrawleresxi eats it for breakfastFeb 18 16:36
gde33thats okFeb 18 16:36
gde33vm is good to learn a new distroFeb 18 16:36
icecrawleri dont want people to think linux is slow because of shitty virtualboxFeb 18 16:37
iophkpoor host software thenFeb 18 16:37
gde33I wonder what it would cost to do a windows vm with a linux distro preloaded, an option to boot the distro as well and an option to reset it.Feb 18 16:37
gde33if one would just hire programmers I meanFeb 18 16:37
icecrawleriophk: its called sun and oracle, the kings of bloaty slowwareFeb 18 16:38
icecrawlerthey dont call it slowlaris for nothing, and they made virtualboxFeb 18 16:38
gde33just buy a better computer :DFeb 18 16:38
icecrawlermy i7 4770 laughs at thatFeb 18 16:38
icecrawlervirtualbox is so shitty I can even tell on an overpowered computerFeb 18 16:39
icecrawleryou guys just have such slow computers, that everything is slow and you dont noticeFeb 18 16:39
gde33sure I doFeb 18 16:39
gde33I just dont want to boot into an os that I dont understand any ofFeb 18 16:39
icecrawlerprobably running core2duo's or AMD'sFeb 18 16:39
gde33I need the training wheelsFeb 18 16:40
gde33will glady pay for ellimination of dialogs that shouldn't be thereFeb 18 16:40
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/02/thief-reboot-runs-at-1080p-on-ps4-900p-on-xbox-one/Feb 18 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Thief reboot runs at 1080p on PS4, 900p on Xbox One | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gndfe ]Feb 18 16:45
Sosumiwhen is the m$ start paying game devs to make ps4 games worst?Feb 18 16:47
Sosumi*when is M$Feb 18 16:47
iophkThey might be losing control of the devs.Feb 18 16:48
iophkSteam is an example of the break-away.Feb 18 16:48
Sosumithey never had controlFeb 18 16:48
Sosumiremember? during the xbox 360 daysFeb 18 16:48
Sosumithey were buying timed exclusives and timed dlcFeb 18 16:48
XFaCEicecrawler: Have you seen Ender's Game yet? Heard it's mediocreFeb 18 16:49
SosumiexclusivityFeb 18 16:49
Sosumiwith in the end, the ps3 getting game+dlc+added content on a single game cdFeb 18 16:50
Sosumithat actually happened with some Tales gameFeb 18 16:50
Sosumim$ if they were smartFeb 18 16:51
Sosumiwould better just do what I've sayingFeb 18 16:52
Sosumiand turn the xbox on a fully fledged pc that ppl can use to synch their phone, music, browser the web and do doc editingFeb 18 16:53
Sosumior just pull out of the businessFeb 18 16:53
iophkI thought the xbox was just their experiment with DRM'd hardwareFeb 18 16:53
Sosumithen the ps1Feb 18 16:54
Sosumibeat them at thatFeb 18 16:54
iophkps2 had them beat even after the ps3 was outFeb 18 16:54
Sosumiif you want worstFeb 18 16:54
Sosuminintendo had full control of the distribution method of their consoles back during the cartrdge daysFeb 18 16:55
iophkcartridges were a fairly solid way to control distributionFeb 18 16:55
SosumiyepFeb 18 16:56
iophkalso people are more willing to shell out big money if they know they can easily resell the cartridge laterFeb 18 16:56
Sosumiso, even more tight than the xboxFeb 18 16:56
SosumiyesFeb 18 16:56
iophkyes, but the xbox was probably a model for locking down regular Windows machinesFeb 18 16:56
Sosumibut this past gen introduced passesFeb 18 16:57
Sosumiwich consisted of a code that you introduced to unluck certain features of the gameFeb 18 16:57
Sosumiif you had bought the game on second handFeb 18 16:57
Sosumithen you had to go to the console built in store and pay for that contentFeb 18 16:58
Sosumiboth ps3 and xbox had thatFeb 18 16:58
iophkthat looks to be the way they are trying to head, all of themFeb 18 16:58
iophkpretty soon you'll have to swipe your credit card through the machine just to bootFeb 18 16:58
iophkthen again to run a gameFeb 18 16:59
Sosumithe way they're heading is digitasl distroFeb 18 16:59
Sosumiyou buy it, dowload it and that is itFeb 18 16:59
Sosumino more resselling or tradingFeb 18 16:59
iophkdoctrine of first sale used to apply, but it is now turning into rentalFeb 18 16:59
Sosumijust like steam isFeb 18 16:59
iophkthat's a big down side to steamFeb 18 16:59
Sosumisteam isn't rentalFeb 18 17:00
Sosumiyou just lease the game for as long as you have the accountFeb 18 17:00
iophkclose enough Feb 18 17:00
Sosumithat is the model sony and M$ kind of wishFeb 18 17:00
Sosumialso situation in ukraine turning worstFeb 18 17:01
Sosumi5 more civilian deathsFeb 18 17:01
Sosumiand things still out of handFeb 18 17:02
Sosumifrom what I heard even the ukranian president is on temporary leaveFeb 18 17:02
Sosumiclaiming medical conditionsFeb 18 17:02
Sosumiwould poland under a covert nato protest dare to intervene?Feb 18 17:02
Sosumi*pretextFeb 18 17:03
Sosumithat would certainly end up with russian forces entering in from the eastFeb 18 17:03
iophkhttp://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale12x/presentations/opening-keynote-only-you-can-get-so-where-are-youFeb 18 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.socallinuxexpo.org | Opening Keynote: Only You Can Get This, So Where Are You? | SCALE 12x [ http://ur1.ca/gndjh ]Feb 18 17:05
Sosumialso military planes spotted flying above kievFeb 18 17:24
Sosumibut I doubt thatFeb 18 17:24
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icecrawlerI build my own UAVsFeb 18 18:00
icecrawlerI got the cops a ticket once for breaking the law, my UAVs follow policeFeb 18 18:03
icecrawlerpretty funnyFeb 18 18:03
icecrawlerusing their lights to get through a red light, tisk tiskFeb 18 18:04
icecrawlermother fucking copsFeb 18 18:05
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icecrawlerThese pigs stopped my friend once cause he drives a sports car; so I used my justice of the peace status I obtained with the freemen to search their car. I found cocaine they seized but never marked down as evidence. I had them tested a few days later.Feb 18 18:08
icecrawlerpunkedFeb 18 18:08
icecrawlermsb_ you get your justice of the peace status yet?Feb 18 18:12
msb_noFeb 18 18:12
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icecrawlerget yourself a bunch of signatures and get yourself sworn in front of a judgeFeb 18 18:13
icecrawleryou can act as a common law justice of the peaceFeb 18 18:13
msb_Why did you lie and say I had invited you here?Feb 18 18:14
icecrawleryou didFeb 18 18:14
msb_When and where?Feb 18 18:14
icecrawlerin ##conspiracyFeb 18 18:14
icecrawleryou're mark bilk right?Feb 18 18:15
icecrawlerit was a few months ago but i was getting my powermac fixedFeb 18 18:15
icecrawleri got a new ati card, 128mb and now it does 1080p to my tvFeb 18 18:16
icecrawlerlooks awesomeFeb 18 18:16
icecrawlerthis powermac g4 will live foreverFeb 18 18:16
icecrawlerbut anywaysFeb 18 18:16
icecrawleryou were saying in ##conspiracy that you only use linux because the CIA has backdoors in windows and osxFeb 18 18:17
msb_I did not say that.  Feb 18 18:17
icecrawleri talked to  you on the phone and you said you used susie lunixFeb 18 18:17
icecrawlerlinuxFeb 18 18:18
msb_And my irc client, konversation, keeps logs of all posts in all channels I visit.Feb 18 18:18
msb_There is no log for ##conspiracy.Feb 18 18:18
icecrawlerit was on the phoneFeb 18 18:18
icecrawleryou were in ##conspiracyFeb 18 18:18
icecrawlerbefore you changed your name to msb_Feb 18 18:18
msb_I use Linux because it's a much better OS than Windows or OSX.Feb 18 18:19
icecrawlerwhen it was mbilk_Feb 18 18:19
icecrawlerwhat about the NSA backdoorsFeb 18 18:19
msb_I've never used the nick mbilk in irc.Feb 18 18:20
icecrawlerRedhat and the NSA's Studio54 project to backdoor Linux with SELInuxFeb 18 18:20
roy_icecrawler: who are you?Feb 18 18:20
icecrawleryou were mbilk_ in ##conspiracy only last week MarkFeb 18 18:20
msb_That must have been someone else pretending to be me.Feb 18 18:20
*roy_ is now known as schestowitz__Feb 18 18:21
icecrawlerit could beFeb 18 18:21
msb_I have no log and no bookmark for ##conspiracy, and I was certainly not there last week using the name mbilk_.Feb 18 18:21
icecrawlernot sure how to tell, you told me you change hostnames and nicks a lot because of the CIAFeb 18 18:21
schestowitz__smells like infiltrator to meFeb 18 18:21
msb_I have never said any such thing, and I do not do it.Feb 18 18:21
schestowitz__Watch your language BTW, I think you're here just to spy on and distract the channelFeb 18 18:22
msb_There are several psychopaths from COLA who've stalked me for months in the past.Feb 18 18:22
MinceRvmware is horribly crapFeb 18 18:22
icecrawlerinteresting, i hope you catch that mother fucker. but mark, you seem like a cool guy with your aliens videosFeb 18 18:22
MinceRthey can't even do console properlyFeb 18 18:22
schestowitz__msb_: you needn't feed him, that thing is just some anon trying to discredit the channelFeb 18 18:22
icecrawlermsb_ come to ##conspiracyFeb 18 18:23
schestowitz__MinceR: bmware is for windiotsFeb 18 18:23
MinceRindeedFeb 18 18:23
schestowitz__vm_bwareFeb 18 18:23
schestowitz__who want to be spoonfed with a GUI even for a consoleFeb 18 18:23
msb_schestowitz__: Are you talking to icecrawler or to me regarding language, spying, etc?Feb 18 18:24
schestowitz__Vsphere on Windows connected to Linux consoles makes them as insecure as Windows, i.e. NSA honeypotsFeb 18 18:24
schestowitz__same for MS' HYPE-VFeb 18 18:24
schestowitz__msb_: I think there's an attempt to paint us negativelyFeb 18 18:24
icecrawleroh did I commit the crime of mentioning proprietary productsFeb 18 18:24
schestowitz__I saw that done to globalresearch.ca/chudorovskyFeb 18 18:25
MinceRi wouldn't mind the GUI, if it workedFeb 18 18:25
MinceRbut it's winblows garbageFeb 18 18:25
icecrawlermincer, are you 15?Feb 18 18:25
schestowitz__All they have to do is drop some **** here and then say "look, techrights says [x] [y]..."Feb 18 18:25
MinceRicecrawler: are you 13?Feb 18 18:25
icecrawler"winblows"?Feb 18 18:25
MinceRu mad?Feb 18 18:25
icecrawlerlol real mature broFeb 18 18:26
MinceRcall the waaaaahmbulance, someone mocked icecrawler's favorite OSFeb 18 18:26
schestowitz__[18:04] <icecrawler> I got the cops a ticket once for breaking the law, my UAVs follow policeFeb 18 18:26
schestowitz__^ and provocation  to make us look radicalFeb 18 18:26
schestowitz__and foul-mouthedFeb 18 18:26
MinceRand a liarFeb 18 18:26
icecrawlerim a crime fighterFeb 18 18:26
MinceRno you're notFeb 18 18:26
schestowitz__you are paid by gchq?Feb 18 18:26
icecrawlerits all legalFeb 18 18:27
MinceRwhatever the lobbyists buy is legalFeb 18 18:27
icecrawlerim a justice of the peace and I have an air licenseFeb 18 18:27
MinceRwhatever the secret courts prop up is legalFeb 18 18:27
icecrawleri catch those police mother fuckers doing all kinds of crimes like parking in handicapped spots; using their lights to get through reds; smoking in their carsFeb 18 18:28
icecrawlerwhy is it wrong to use drones against mother fucking government douches ?Feb 18 18:29
icecrawlersurveillance, no weaponsFeb 18 18:29
*schestowitz__ installed tor and privacy-centric browsers on Android today...Feb 18 18:31
icecrawleryou must be a terrorist schestowitzFeb 18 18:31
icecrawlerbetter install tor on that ak-47 tooFeb 18 18:32
MinceRschestowitz__: which browsers?Feb 18 18:32
MinceRi'm guessing orweb is one :>Feb 18 18:32
icecrawlerchromeFeb 18 18:32
MinceRhar har harFeb 18 18:33
icecrawlerits the most secure, each tab has its own PIDFeb 18 18:33
icecrawlerjust use /etc/hosts to filter safebrowsingFeb 18 18:33
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icecrawlerDaemonFC how much bitcoin do I owe youFeb 18 18:34
msb_I think we should go back to the kwatloo standard.  It has much more history.Feb 18 18:35
DaemonFCfor what?Feb 18 18:35
msb_For money.  Bitcoins are meaningless.Feb 18 18:36
MinceRwhat's a "kwatloo standard"?Feb 18 18:36
msb_Sorry.  Startrek original series episode.Feb 18 18:36
MinceRicFeb 18 18:36
MinceRi should probably watch that eventuallyFeb 18 18:37
DaemonFCIf they're meaningless, then give me a ton of them. I'll cash them out for USD and go buy myself a new car or something.Feb 18 18:37
DaemonFC:)Feb 18 18:37
MinceR:)Feb 18 18:37
DaemonFCAnything you can cash out for US dollars is at least as good as the number of US dollars you can get for them.Feb 18 18:38
msb_People used to talk about kwatloos on Usenet years ago.  I'm an old fart.Feb 18 18:38
DaemonFCI even have some Euro coins as souvenirs. Feb 18 18:39
*MinceR gets off the lawnFeb 18 18:39
DaemonFCIt's good for the European economy when tourists take them back to their home country where they can't be spent.Feb 18 18:39
DaemonFCIt's basically the same thing as burning money.Feb 18 18:40
icecrawlerDaemonFC for the sniper rifleFeb 18 18:41
DaemonFCMoney can only cause inflation when it's in circulation.Feb 18 18:41
msb_As uncertain as it is to rely on some government for exchanging something useful for its paper money, nobody guarantees that bitcoins are worth anything.Feb 18 18:41
DaemonFCIf people hold it and never demand anything for it, then it can't cause price inflation.Feb 18 18:41
MinceRmsb_: there are no absolute guarantees for the value of any currency.Feb 18 18:42
msb_True, but relying on the (evil) US govt is better than relying on nothing.Feb 18 18:42
DaemonFCPrices in the US have remained stable even  though the Federal Reserve has created many trillions of dollars in the last few years.Feb 18 18:43
DaemonFCWhy? :)Feb 18 18:43
msb_They haven't.  Prices slowly increase.Feb 18 18:43
DaemonFCSlow stable inflation is nothing to be alarmed about, so long as wages are increasing as well.Feb 18 18:44
msb_Food companies sneakily decrease the size of their containers.Feb 18 18:44
DaemonFCI remember when the US had 4-5% annual inflation and it was "morning in America".Feb 18 18:44
msb_I doubt that wages are increasing at all.Feb 18 18:45
msb_And at least 25% of would-be workers are unemployed.Feb 18 18:45
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DaemonFCRight. And people with no buying power can't command the economy to give them anything.Feb 18 18:45
DaemonFCThereby controlling inflation. :)Feb 18 18:45
DaemonFCPrices can only rise if consumers will agree to pay the new price.Feb 18 18:46
msb_If they don't, they starve.Feb 18 18:46
DaemonFCWell, even with food, there's a substitution effect.Feb 18 18:47
msb_Sure.  Grass, tree bark...Feb 18 18:47
DaemonFCIf the price of beef goes up, you buy chicken.Feb 18 18:47
msb_Fried rats.Feb 18 18:47
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DaemonFCOfficial inflation figures exclude the price of food and energy.Feb 18 18:48
msb_Cute, eh?Feb 18 18:48
DaemonFCSo it can provide data that suggests that inflation is lower than it really is.Feb 18 18:48
DaemonFCRight. Once you exclude the two most out of control things in the economy.....Feb 18 18:49
msb_They should exclude the cost of rent, clothing, and medical care.  Then things would be perfect.Feb 18 18:49
icecrawlerCause medical care is expensiveFeb 18 18:49
msb_I'm starving to death on the street, but life is perfect.Feb 18 18:50
icecrawlerOh noes, bandaids cost a few bucksFeb 18 18:50
DaemonFCThey don't track rent. They do track housing prices.Feb 18 18:50
DaemonFCThat tells you nothing.Feb 18 18:50
DaemonFCA slumlord can buy a house for next to nothing and charge an obscene amount of rent.Feb 18 18:50
icecrawlerits 2014: cheap people are being cheapFeb 18 18:51
DaemonFCAnd he can get away with it as long as you don't have the credit to buy your own house.Feb 18 18:51
icecrawlerlol a slumlordFeb 18 18:51
icecrawlerthey become that way when someone who rents destroys the placeFeb 18 18:52
msb_No, they become that way when they realize they can raise the rents and people still have to pay.Feb 18 18:52
icecrawleri've paid the same rent for five yearsFeb 18 18:53
icecrawlernow I have a pool that didn't exist when I moved inFeb 18 18:53
DaemonFCSome landlords only bother to raise the rent when you move out and another tenant moves in.Feb 18 18:54
DaemonFCThey figure that most tenants only stay for a few years anyway, so they don't bother to jack the rent up every year.Feb 18 18:54
DaemonFCI moved in to my last apartment in January 2007. The lease expired in January 2008. I was living there until December 2012.Feb 18 18:55
SosumiI bet the both the NSA and CIA also have dedicated teams exploiting gnu/linux 24/7Feb 18 18:55
schestowitz__msb_: yes, orwebFeb 18 18:55
Sosumiso, no place to hideFeb 18 18:55
DaemonFCUnder Indiana law, if the lease expires, you continue under the terms of the old lease until a new lease is signed.Feb 18 18:55
icecrawlermost places are like that DaemonFCFeb 18 18:56
MinceRschestowitz__: that's just one browser, not 'browsers' :>Feb 18 18:56
DaemonFCThe landlord probably figured that it was better to have a tenant that he knew would always pay on time and wasn't tearing the place up than it would be to jack up the rent $20 and provoke me into leaving.Feb 18 18:56
MinceRgeekingsFeb 18 18:57
msb_schestowitz__: Apparently orweb is for Android, which I don't use.  Did you mean to answer someone else?Feb 18 18:58
MinceRyes, he meant to answer meFeb 18 18:58
schestowitz__MinceR: added to firefox, tooFeb 18 18:58
MinceRicFeb 18 18:58
schestowitz__MinceR: yes, MinceRFeb 18 18:58
iophkbetter to use TBB than to try to customize Firefox.  You could do it, but with TBB the work is already done.Feb 18 18:59
schestowitz__msb_: yes, MinceRFeb 18 18:59
schestowitz__autocompleteFeb 18 18:59
DaemonFCmsb_: There's only one thing that keeps prices in check. Competition.Feb 18 18:59
schestowitz__scrolling back I think I've just landed into another SurfingTheApocalypseFeb 18 18:59
schestowitz__One troll managed to sature the channel with lots of crap about "reptilians" and stuffFeb 18 18:59
DaemonFCLandlords can't generally get away with charging much more than the prevailing rent in the area. If they go much higher, then people will simply move somewhere else.Feb 18 18:59
schestowitz__Later groups like ACT say we're "conspiracy theorists"Feb 18 19:00
schestowitz__And Mono boosters say we call for people to be assassinatedFeb 18 19:00
icecrawlermsb_ was linking some high quality videos about mantidsFeb 18 19:00
icecrawlernot reptiliansFeb 18 19:00
DaemonFCThe situation most favorable to renters is when there are no shortage of apartments, which means that landlords have to cut rent prices to keep them from going empty.Feb 18 19:00
msb_Anyone who uses the term  "conspiracy theorists" is a fool, a government stooge, or both.Feb 18 19:01
schestowitz__that's the term they useFeb 18 19:01
schestowitz__not meFeb 18 19:01
msb_I understand that.Feb 18 19:01
schestowitz__!google carlin conspiracy theoristFeb 18 19:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - George Carlin - Conspiracy Theorists - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbO0-u900OG4Feb 18 19:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - George Carlin - Conspiracy Theorists and Powerful People - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D5QOVdE_3anUFeb 18 19:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - George Carlin on Conspiracy Theories and the NWO - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DgtpZ65V0DPUFeb 18 19:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Prison Planet.com » George Carlin – Conspiracy Theorists | http://www.prisonplanet.com/george-carlin-%25E2%2580%2593-conspiracy-theorists.htmlFeb 18 19:01
DaemonFCThe government can use rent control laws, but if they get too aggressive, those can backfire.Feb 18 19:01
DaemonFCIf they pass a law that says that nobody may charge more than $200 a month for a one bedroom apartment, then all of a sudden, there are no apartments, because no landlord will rent them out at a loss.Feb 18 19:02
MinceR200002 < schestowitz__> One troll managed to sature the channel with lots of crap about "reptilians" and stuffFeb 18 19:02
MinceRshould we ban them?Feb 18 19:02
DaemonFChttp://www.goodreads.com/quotes/538135-we-economists-don-t-know-much-but-we-do-know-howFeb 18 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Milton Friedman: We economists don't know much, but we do know h... [ http://ur1.ca/gnep8 ]Feb 18 19:03
msb_DaemonFC: 99% of the wealth goes to 1% of the population.  We'd be much better off with democratic socialism.Feb 18 19:04
DaemonFCI don't see a particularly good excuse for $3.60 a gallon gas.Feb 18 19:06
msb_We have no way of knowing who or what is at the top of the domination/control pyramid of our planet.  Calling any mention of aliens "crap" is not intellectually honest.Feb 18 19:07
DaemonFChttp://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/rs-500-us-oil-production1.jpgFeb 18 19:08
DaemonFClolFeb 18 19:08
MinceRmsb_: implicitly assuming that unknown people must be aliens is also not intellectually honest.Feb 18 19:08
msb_MinceR: I don't assume that.  But I do listen to coherent people who say it, and Sumerians who wrote about it copiously.Feb 18 19:09
msb_It's a possibility worth considering.Feb 18 19:10
MinceRdid we not listen? :>Feb 18 19:10
msb_Sure.Feb 18 19:10
msb_I was mostly speaking to Roy's objections.Feb 18 19:11
msb_I hang out in this channel because there are some smart people here, and the topic is the relationship of Linux and FOSS to society.Feb 18 19:12
msb_e.g., swpats, open journals, etc.Feb 18 19:12
msb_gde33 gave me perfect help for my website html!Feb 18 19:13
MinceRthat's niceFeb 18 19:14
schestowitz__MinceR: don't feedFeb 18 19:17
msb_The fact is, the higher you look on the control pyramid, the weird things get -- bankers being killed recently, mind-controlled slaves, pederasty, even child sacrifice.Feb 18 19:17
msb_So it could be just extreme psychopaths and psychotics, or it could be aliens feeding off human agony.Feb 18 19:18
msb_weird-->weirderFeb 18 19:18
msb_Anyhow, I only talk about aliens when somebody else mentions it first.Feb 18 19:20
iophkhttp://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2014/02/17/meet-microsofts-new-old-head-of-lync-and-skype/Feb 18 19:20
iophkhttp://www.itworld.com/unified-communications/405602/microsoft-pushes-ahead-skype-lync-integrationFeb 18 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.fortune.cnn.com | Meet Microsoft's new (old) head of Lync and Skype - Fortune Tech [ http://ur1.ca/gnez1 ]Feb 18 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Microsoft pushes ahead with Skype-Lync integration | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gnez2 ]Feb 18 19:20
msb_iophk: That sure needs a good open-source substitute.Feb 18 19:22
msb_schestowitz__: I am not a "troll", and if people talk to me it is not "feeding".Feb 18 19:25
DaemonFCI noticed that something scratched the hood of my car.Feb 18 19:29
DaemonFCI have no idea what happened.Feb 18 19:29
DaemonFC*sigh* This is why I can't have nice things.Feb 18 19:29
msb_I'd make a joke here, but i don't want to piss Roy off any more than he already is.Feb 18 19:30
msb_Just get some touchup paint.Feb 18 19:30
schestowitz__msb_:  I was not referring to youFeb 18 19:32
msb_What was that old movie about a giant bird, which at the end carried off the guy who played in a long-running TV show, maybe Highway Patrol?Feb 18 19:32
DaemonFCI suppose I could get some touch up paint. The last owner did some really awful scratch repair in certain spots already. Looks like he painted it with toenail polish.Feb 18 19:33
msb_schestowitz__: Oh, good!  Thanks!Feb 18 19:33
DaemonFCIt never ends up looking right, but at least it won't rust.Feb 18 19:33
msb_DaemonFC: And you could paint over the toenail polish using the right color.Feb 18 19:34
msb_Or paint your entire car with toenail polish and glitter!Feb 18 19:34
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MinceRwhat could possibly go wrong? :>Feb 18 19:36
iophkmsb_: SIP clients include Ekiga, Linphone and Jitsi.  They all work with each other.Feb 18 19:41
msb_iophk: I've never been able to get any of those to work, but maybe when I update my Linux...Feb 18 19:44
msb_iophk: Does SIP do video and conferencing?Feb 18 19:45
iophkLinphone is is cross-platformFeb 18 19:45
iophkhttp://www.linphone.org/eng/download/packages/linphone.htmlFeb 18 19:45
iophkas is JitsiFeb 18 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linphone.org | Linphone 3.6.0 | Linphone, an open-source video sip phone [ http://ur1.ca/gnf5g ]Feb 18 19:45
iophkmsb_:  yes but it depends on the clientFeb 18 19:53
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iophkI'm not sure of an upper limit on conference call partiticpantsFeb 18 19:54
msb_For now, I use skype (which I did long before MS bought it), or IHU (if the other person is using Linux).  IHU is easy to set up.Feb 18 19:54
msb_But the old statically-linked version of IHU doesn't work with modern Linux.Feb 18 19:55
iophkSome use Google Hangouts but I'd not want to give more over to Google any more.Feb 18 19:56
MinceRskype was untrustworthy long before m$ bought it :>Feb 18 19:57
iophkIt was/is a major security hole.Feb 18 19:58
iophk(skype)Feb 18 19:58
MinceRindeedFeb 18 19:58
msb_I just don't care who listens in.  I have nothing to hide.Feb 18 19:59
msb_Google drops services without notice.  I have a feeling it's becoming evil.Feb 18 19:59
MinceRbecoming? :>Feb 18 20:00
iophkSince the IPO it is only a matter of time.  Feb 18 20:00
iophkhttp://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/the-data-trust-blog/2009/02/debunking-a-myth-if-you-have-n.htmlFeb 18 20:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Debunking a myth: If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear - Identity, Privacy and Trust [ http://ur1.ca/gnf84 ]Feb 18 20:00
msb_Skype does have good quieting and echo-cancellation on a good platform.Feb 18 20:00
iophkI found the sound quality poor due to distortion and there were frequent disconnections.Feb 18 20:01
MinceRi don't think that obfuscated nonfree code that needs to communicate with random peers on random ports is a "good platform"Feb 18 20:01
iophkBut that was years ago.Feb 18 20:01
iophkThe closed protocol used by skype is probably as bad as the closed source.Feb 18 20:01
MinceRindeed.Feb 18 20:01
iophkIt prevents growth and competition.Feb 18 20:02
msb_by good platform I meant a good computer, not a doorstop -er- tablet.Feb 18 20:03
msb_IHU works well, but it probably has to be recompiled these days.  A friend found an Ubuntu version, but he had very low mike volume on his doorstop.Feb 18 20:05
MinceRhow would you stop a door with a tablet?Feb 18 20:06
msb_First stomp on one side of it to make it lower so you can get it under the door.Feb 18 20:08
msb_OK, here's my ip-address  98.248.33.213, and here's IHU:  http://ihu.sourceforge.net/  http://ihu.sourceforge.net/download.html Feb 18 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ihu.sourceforge.net | I Hear U (IHU) Project HomepageFeb 18 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ihu.sourceforge.net | IHU DownloadFeb 18 20:11
msb_Would somebody please run it (probably have to recompile unless you have an old Linux) and call me?Feb 18 20:11
msb_You can test it by calling your own address.  If you hear your voice, slightly delayed, it's working.Feb 18 20:12
msb_It's much easier than SIP.  You only have to open one port in your firewall.Feb 18 20:15
iophkSIP goes through the firewall just fine.Feb 18 20:15
iophkhttp://falkvinge.net/2012/07/19/debunking-the-dangerous-nothing-to-hide-nothing-to-fear/Feb 18 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-falkvinge.net | Debunking The Dangerous "If You Have Nothing To Hide, You Have Nothing To Fear" - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/9szfq ]Feb 18 20:15
msb_Without opening any ports?Feb 18 20:15
iophkI've never had to open anyFeb 18 20:16
msb_It must be like skype where it keeps a channel open to the server.Feb 18 20:16
MinceRor it could optionally use TURN or STUNFeb 18 20:17
MinceRor IPv6 :>Feb 18 20:18
DaemonFCI might go wash my carFeb 18 20:19
DaemonFCIt's warm enough to do it right now.Feb 18 20:19
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msb_Yes!  At 2450 seconds into The Vulture starring Broderick Crawford, you can see him carried off a balcony by a giant bird!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZILfQ1DeT3YFeb 18 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The vulture 1967 Full movie. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gnfqm ]Feb 18 21:35
msb_DaemonFC: which is probably what scratched your car!Feb 18 21:36
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msb_Then there is The Giant Claw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olezaLrnYzE  featuring what must be the silliest-looking monster ever, and lots of jet planes.Feb 18 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | the giant claw - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gnfri ]Feb 18 21:38
DaemonFCmsb_: Probably one of those winter storms.Feb 18 21:43
DaemonFCProbably knocked a tree branch loose or something.Feb 18 21:43
DaemonFCI would say it was a vandal, except that vandals tend to do more damage than that while they're at it anyway, and....I haven't done anything to anyone, lately.Feb 18 21:43
DaemonFCB-)Feb 18 21:43
msb_The Giant Claw flies in the wintertime!Feb 18 21:44
DaemonFCmsb_: The car has some minor exterior issues.Feb 18 21:44
DaemonFCThe interior is in great shape. The frame is strong and has minimal rust.Feb 18 21:44
msb_We all have issues.Feb 18 21:44
DaemonFCThe engine, transmission, and other stuff is all in good shape.Feb 18 21:44
DaemonFCI think the car should last at least another 10 years.Feb 18 21:44
msb_Usually The Giant Claw would eat giant bugs like those at the beginning of _Rodan_.Feb 18 21:49
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msb_My wonderful cat Fog looked just like Rodan when I pushed her ears together to make little horns on her head.  I called her Foggy-Rodan.Feb 18 21:50
DaemonFCThat prune juice really did the trick.Feb 18 21:51
DaemonFCMaybe a little bit too well.Feb 18 21:51
msb_Note that The Feb 18 21:51
msb_Note that The Vulture has theremin music!Feb 18 21:51
DaemonFCI might cut it back to 10 ounces instead of 16.Feb 18 21:51
msb_I true Warrior's Drink!Feb 18 21:52
msb_It's an ordeal drug.  You must clench up and hold it in!Feb 18 21:53
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx12RQINX3WZD7WFeb 18 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Choosing "Spanish" on customer support lines is more likely to connect you to an American that speaks understandable English. [ http://ur1.ca/gnfzl ]Feb 18 22:06
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 18 22:07
DaemonFChttp://lifehacker.com/choose-the-spanish-option-for-better-customer-service-1525064199Feb 18 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | Choose the Spanish Option for Better Customer Service [ http://ur1.ca/gnfzp ]Feb 18 22:07
DaemonFCAccording to this article, people who choose "English" are more likely to get their call sent to a foreign call center, while people who choose "Spanish" are more likely to get routed to an American call center agent that actually speaks English quite well.Feb 18 22:07
DaemonFCSo, I will start selecting Spanish to see if I can support American jobs and getting a customer support agent that speaks intelligible English.Feb 18 22:07
DaemonFCI wonder if this trick works when you call Comcast... Feb 18 22:07
DaemonFC*and getFeb 18 22:07
*DaemonFC paid some medical copays...Feb 18 22:16
DaemonFCOuch.Feb 18 22:16
DaemonFCAt least I can put them on my rewards card and get some miles. :PFeb 18 22:16
DaemonFCI couldn't wash my car. The hose was frozen.Feb 18 22:22
DaemonFCI dug up the hose. It should be 56 degrees on Thursday. I can wash the car then.Feb 18 22:23
DaemonFCI hate winter. I have to go to the car wash. I can wash my car by hand for about 50 cents. It costs $10 at the car wash. :PFeb 18 22:23
DaemonFCThe snow is melting at least. It should be above freezing for the next 3 days. All the snow should be gone.Feb 18 22:24
DaemonFCI like to wash the car about once every 2 weeks. It keeps all the road crap and bird shit off of it.Feb 18 22:25
DaemonFCThat stuff will eat right through a car if you don't keep it washed.Feb 18 22:25
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/lync-skype-video-chat-shown-for-the-first-time-coming-later-this-year/Feb 18 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lync-Skype video chat shown for the first time, coming later this year | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gng5y ]Feb 18 22:25
Sosumiwe need an alternative for thatFeb 18 22:26
Sosumibut alsoFeb 18 22:26
Sosumitypical m$Feb 18 22:26
Sosumiwhy not merge both clientsFeb 18 22:26
Sosumiand call it skylyncFeb 18 22:27
Sosumior skylinkFeb 18 22:27
Sosumikind of like crapple had with ichatFeb 18 22:27
Sosumiwhich supported bonjour, thus allowing you to chat with you co-workers on the same networkFeb 18 22:28
Sosumi*yourFeb 18 22:28
Sosumiand skylink actually sounds awesomeFeb 18 22:29
MinceRwhy not indeed, by now it's obvious that lync users don't care about their business secretsFeb 18 22:29
Sosumiif you care about business secrets you don't rely on M$ products nor google servicesFeb 18 22:30
Sosumiso it is okFeb 18 22:31
Sosumijust merge them, one client to do them allFeb 18 22:31
Sosumiskype, lync, jabber and why not? google hangoutsFeb 18 22:32
Sosumiand since tomorrow's going to be another busy dayFeb 18 22:33
SosumiGN :)Feb 18 22:33
msb_Just call it SkyNet.  Fulfill the prophecy!!!Feb 18 22:55
MinceRgnFeb 18 23:04
MinceRskype.NETFeb 18 23:04
MinceRif m$ developed skynet, it wouldn't have gotten anywhereFeb 18 23:04
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DaemonFCI posted this on Indiana Governor Mike Pence's Facebook wall.Feb 18 23:46
DaemonFChttps://eff.org/r.ev71Feb 18 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Support the Right to Repair in South Dakota (and Everywhere Else) | Electronic Frontier FoundationFeb 18 23:46
DaemonFCIndiana needs such a law. Of course, any device with proprietary binary-only software is not going to be fully serviceable by the owner*, so we also need a law that makes it illegal to ship a device that will only run firmware that is signed by the company that made the device.Feb 18 23:46
DaemonFCUsers should be free to replace the firmware on their device with software that respects their freedom.Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFCOf course, that would make parasitic companies that are hostile to freedom, such as Microsoft and Apple, very angry.Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFCIf Microsoft gets what it wants, it will eventually make it impossible to turn off Restricted Boot on these new computers that come with uEFI firmware, so that the owner cannot replace the Windows operating system with one that respects their freedom, such as Fedora GNU/Linux.Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFCSo, Indiana also needs to pass a law that makes it illegal for an OEM to restrict a computer to a particular operating system.Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFC*(For example, Ford Motor Company dropped to #26 out of 28 vehicle manufacturers on the Consumer Reports reliability ratings, largely because of problems with MyTouch, which uses proprietary Microsoft software. Of course, nobody should want proprietary software in their car, and especially when it has GPS capabilities and spyware from the car manufacturer. Ford admitted that MyTouch exists to gobble up data on their customers. Other manufacturersFeb 18 23:47
DaemonFCare doing similar things.)Feb 18 23:47
DaemonFCThere was some speculation that Microsoft was going to hire Ford's CEO as their replacement for Ballmer.Feb 18 23:52
DaemonFCThey like to reward executives from other businesses that take a shit all over the good name of their products by imposing Microsoft software onto their customers.Feb 18 23:52
DaemonFChttp://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/hot-pockets-recalled-103642.htmlFeb 19 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.politico.com | Nestle recalls some Hot Pockets - Associated Press - POLITICO.com [ http://ur1.ca/gngrp ]Feb 19 00:12
DaemonFCI ate some of these.Feb 19 00:12
icecrawler<DaemonFC> If Microsoft gets what it wants, it will eventually make it impossible to turn off Restricted Boot on these new computers that come with uEFI firmware, so that the owner cannot replace the Windows operating system with one that respects their freedom, such as Fedora GNU/Linux.Feb 19 00:33
icecrawlerFedora purchased a signing key from Microsoft, you can install Fedora on a surface pro as easily as any other computerFeb 19 00:33
icecrawlerSame with any distro that decides to use the Linux foundation keyFeb 19 00:34
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icecrawlerim told by people in the inner circles at redhat that systemd's intregration in gnome is more about blocking bsd because of clang than it is about controlling linuxFeb 19 00:48
DaemonFCShim was a necessary evil, but it is still evil.Feb 19 01:04
DaemonFCNobody should require Microsoft's permission (which they can revoke!) to use different software on their computer, which is their personal property.Feb 19 01:05
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msb_icecrawler: Would you (or anyone) please explain what this means " systemd's intregration in gnome is more about blocking bsd because of clang than it is about controlling linux".Feb 19 02:01
msb_Does BSD use clang?  Do some Linux people oppose the use of clang?  How do systemd and gnome relate to that?Feb 19 02:05
DaemonFCMonro is such a piece of crap company.Feb 19 02:08
DaemonFCThey send a coupon for a $19.99 oil change and tire rotation.Feb 19 02:08
DaemonFCThen they say "An additional $2.50 waste oil recycling fee applies. A service fee of 9.99% will be added to all service work"Feb 19 02:08
DaemonFCSo by the time you get done, it's actually $25. $1 less than going to Walmart. Feb 19 02:09
DaemonFCSince Android users have the freedom to back up APK files that they have purchased, they can install Flappy Bird to their other devices.Feb 19 02:53
DaemonFCMeanwhile, used iPhones with Flappy Bird installed are going for $900 on eBay because Apple removed customer access to a program that they had paid for, and there's no way to back up your packages.Feb 19 02:53
DaemonFCHa Ha!Feb 19 02:53
DaemonFCLike · · Share · a few seconds ago ·Feb 19 02:53
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DaemonFCSomeone made another post about Indiana becoming the Island Of The Uninsured (every surrounding state is expanding Medicaid, but Indiana is not), so I replied:Feb 19 03:21
DaemonFCEveryone that would otherwise qualify for Medicaid under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act should apply for Medicaid anyway. When they deny you, go through the appeals process. When the appeals process is complete, apply again. If enough people do this, they'll get into a paperwork jam and have to spend lots of state time and state money to clear the backlog. Maybe they'll just give up and take the federal Medicaid expansion money.Feb 19 03:21
DaemonFCshared a link via The Atlantic.Feb 19 03:36
DaemonFC9 seconds agoFeb 19 03:36
DaemonFChttp://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2014/02/how-get-out-parking-tickets/8412/Feb 19 03:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlanticcities.com | An App That Promises to Get You Out of Parking Tickets - Emily Badger - The Atlantic Cities [ http://ur1.ca/gnhqh ]Feb 19 03:36
DaemonFCI scanned a parking permit into my computer and kept changing the expiration date on it and printing out a new one every month, instead of paying to park in a city lot. That was when I lived in an apartment with no place to park my car. I got away with it for over a year and a half and saved myself a couple hundred dollars during that time. Then I moved.Feb 19 03:36
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icecrawlermsb_ freebsd switched to using llvm/clang instead of gccFeb 19 04:06
msb_icecrawler: Thanks!  Why would Linux people want to block it?Feb 19 04:07
msb_icecrawler: BTW, if you ever see that "mbilk" nick in irc again, please let me know immediately.  mark@cosmicpenguin.comFeb 19 04:09
DaemonFCIndiana's House Republicans sent me an email stating that they were reading books to poor children.Feb 19 04:14
DaemonFCI wonder if it was My Pet Goat, or if they make a delightful series of Ayn Rand childrens books now....Feb 19 04:14
DaemonFCIt turns out that the goat was a worthless taker and so they had it put down.Feb 19 04:14
DaemonFCI was at a restaurant with my mom a few years ago. She asked me what I was eating. I told her "goat". "Goat?", she asked. I replied, "Yeaaaaahhhhh!"Feb 19 04:14
DaemonFCThank you! I'll be here all night.Feb 19 04:14
DaemonFCTime for the prune juice....Feb 19 04:35
DaemonFCmsb_: A warrior's drink!Feb 19 04:35
msb_Keep clenching!  It is a test!Feb 19 04:39
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx33RJQCT0OI3MIFeb 19 04:56
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 19 04:57
DaemonFC"How Ignorant Are Americans?"Feb 19 04:57
DaemonFCI don't know. Feb 19 04:57
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 19 06:13
DaemonFCI always did laugh at "Hot Pocket" steak. They go on sale for $1.49 a package. or about 74.5 cents per sandwich. What kind of steak did people think they were using? Feb 19 06:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The quest for the perfect Twitter client on Linux http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2014/02/18/twitterclient/ #gnu #linux #twitterFeb 19 08:56
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MinceRgeekingsFeb 19 09:14
msb_MinceR: Hi!Feb 19 09:16
MinceRhayFeb 19 09:16
msb_The "Hot Pocket" discussion above has made me hungry.  A shame to recall a whole year's production because of a few bad cattle.  If better records were kept -- GNU/Linux! -- that should be avoidable.Feb 19 09:22
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msb_A propos bears -- amazing (only 2 minutes long) -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6WWyxK_OaUFeb 19 09:37
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Sosumihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/davinhb/sets/72157639874040194/Feb 19 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.flickr.com | Macternity - a set on Flickr [ http://ur1.ca/gnkmx ]Feb 19 11:03
Sosumino comment on the amount of stupidity just witnessed by meFeb 19 11:03
MinceRpatheticFeb 19 11:04
Sosumieven worse, kill it fire before it reproducesFeb 19 11:05
Sosumi*withFeb 19 11:05
MinceRindeedFeb 19 11:06
MinceRthough that would not be sufficient to stop the idiocracyFeb 19 11:06
Sosumitim sculley will be enoughFeb 19 11:23
Sosumihis incompetence is so big that the shipping dates of the trashcan have already slided two or three timeFeb 19 11:25
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SosumiDrPizza the stalkerFeb 19 12:15
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zippydazipster/status/436093028332081152Feb 19 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zippydazipster: @schestowitz where do they store the prints and how long till NSA takes the whole lot?Feb 19 12:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NSA/PRISM on Steroids: Microsoft Lync http://t.co/HdBNYJE76K #skype #lync #microsoft #nsa #prismFeb 19 12:56
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msb_Sosumi: Please excuse my ignorance.  Is the thing that gay guy is making love to in the "Macternity" pix a Mac Pro 2013?  Where do the hard drives go?   This article doesn't say:  http://www.anandtech.com/show/7603/mac-pro-review-late-2013  Has anyone figured out the cost of a conventional AMD/Intel CPU desktop tower with the same capabilities?Feb 19 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | The Mac Pro Review (Late 2013) [ http://ur1.ca/gnmd7 ]Feb 19 13:06
msb_...running Linux, of course.Feb 19 13:07
SosumisimpleFeb 19 13:07
Sosumicustom built or a nice hp z820 will cost around the sameFeb 19 13:08
MinceRbut will have better capabilities :>Feb 19 13:08
Sosumibe more powerful, upgradeable and not crippled by poor heat dissipationFeb 19 13:08
Sosumialso the buttplug pro externalizes hdds through thunderboltFeb 19 13:09
MinceRlolFeb 19 13:09
MinceRthey couldn't even fit hdds in thereFeb 19 13:09
Sosumithe internal drive is a single pcie ssdFeb 19 13:09
msb_Has anyone remarked that Apple has finally succeeded in polishing a turd?Feb 19 13:10
Sosumion that anandtech review you can see that the trashcan pro failed the stress test as well going above the rated psu wattageFeb 19 13:10
SosumilolFeb 19 13:11
msb_I guess the DVD drive has to go somewhere else too.  Sorry I hadn't read to the end of the Anand article.  It does give a nice DIY comparison.Feb 19 13:23
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msb_I'm trying to think of what anyone could use all that power for on a desktop, and all I come up with is games and video editing (and transcoding).  Neither of which I'm very interested in at the moment.  I guess I'll just keep my 5 year old AMD dual core DIY machine with 8GB RAM, if I can make it stop crashing once a week with error messages pointing to the Nvidia graphics.  Maybe a new graphic card will fix it.  The old one only cost Feb 19 13:31
msb_$150 five years ago.Feb 19 13:31
msb_I'm trying to keep Firefox CPU usage below 40%.  There seems to be some correlation between that and the crashes.  Which most of the time just kill the KDE3 session.Feb 19 13:34
msb_I'm a Firefox abuser.  3 or 4 windows with a dozen or two tabs in each.  Sometimes much more.  Poor thing goes crazy patrolling all those tabs.Feb 19 13:35
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msb_Being low power, by today's standards, its fans are pretty quiet, and it sits on the desk a foot from me, with HDDs and DVD drive.Feb 19 13:38
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Sosumiby everything that holy and unholyFeb 19 14:33
Sosumidon't buy the trashcan proFeb 19 14:33
Sosumithere is no consideringFeb 19 14:33
Sosumiany pc similarly speced will mop the floor with that thingFeb 19 14:34
Sosumieven a maxed 2009 and 2010 mac pro will do that tooFeb 19 14:35
MinceRalso, don't buy apple productsFeb 19 14:35
Sosumithe gtx titan black is coming soonFeb 19 14:35
Sosumiand you can put two of those in the old mac proFeb 19 14:36
Sosumiso the trashcan with its 2 years old gpu is obsolete even before it starts being distributed normallyFeb 19 14:37
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Sosumiand did I forget to mention that crapple's opencl implementation is short of what it could be?Feb 19 17:12
Sosumisimply because they fail to implement vendor specific instructionsFeb 19 17:13
Sosumior even work with the vendor to have them implementedFeb 19 17:13
MinceR:)Feb 19 17:13
Sosumiso in short, you end up with up to 20% performance penalty on OSXFeb 19 17:14
Sosumiwhen compared to both gnu/linux and windowsFeb 19 17:14
Sosumieven windows, of which everyone lambasts performs better than osxFeb 19 17:14
Sosumiactually I think that the osx golden years was up until XP's service pack 2Feb 19 17:15
Sosumiafter m$ duct taped some aspects of xpFeb 19 17:16
Sosumilike browsing the net? here's a fly, a virus and a jehova's witnessFeb 19 17:17
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Sosumiand I think they'll probably go into that realm of expensive looking stuffFeb 19 17:25
Sosumialongside brands like bang & ollufsenFeb 19 17:25
Sosumiwhich sell overpriced stuffFeb 19 17:26
Sosumithat you can get better elsewhereFeb 19 17:26
Sosumisame could be said about loweFeb 19 17:26
Sosumiand all you pay is the designFeb 19 17:26
Sosumiand brandFeb 19 17:26
Sosumiwhen probably some discount samsung tv will probably have much better picture quality and overall perform betterFeb 19 17:27
Sosumior some dynaudio or jbl sounding better than the b&o speaker linesFeb 19 17:28
Sosumibut since I'm not interested in those things I really can't sayFeb 19 17:29
Sosumiall I have in fact is a pair of sennheiser h650 headphones with a handmade amplifier and dacFeb 19 17:30
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 19 18:21
DaemonFCI noticed that using bittorrent causes my Comcast cable internet connection to completely reset, hang my web browser, cause my instant messenger accounts to disconnect, and knocks me off of my Internet Relay Chat connections.Feb 19 18:21
DaemonFCI don't know if Comcast is doing it on purpose or if their modem firmware is just garbage. With Comcast, you never know why your expensive broadband connection is as stable as a troubled child on crack.Feb 19 18:21
DaemonFCIf you call Comcast customer support it's like something off of one of those Foamy The Squirrel cartoons, and then they try to tack an additional $60 onto your bill whether they fixed it or not, and no matter what was actually causing the problem. Feb 19 18:21
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Sosumiis comcast dsl?Feb 19 19:06
Sosumior cableFeb 19 19:06
Sosumiin case of it being dsl, he could just buy a dsl modem or gateway and fix the issueFeb 19 19:07
SosumiI've never use operator supplied equipment just because of thatFeb 19 19:08
Sosumi*usedFeb 19 19:08
Sosumiunless ofc, they are actually censuring the trafficFeb 19 19:08
Sosumiand apparently ppl are talking ill of meFeb 19 20:05
*Sosumi hears are on fireFeb 19 20:05
Sosumiher derp, *earFeb 19 20:06
msb_DaemonFC: Are you running Linux?Feb 19 20:52
Sosumihttp://fairewinds.org/uncategorized/csi-fukushimaFeb 19 20:56
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Sosumimore on unit 3Feb 19 20:56
SosumiDaemonFC is an ardent mac loverFeb 19 20:59
DaemonFCSysinfo for 'localhost.localdomain': Running inside KDE 4.12.2 on Fedora 20 (Heisenbug) powered by Linux 3.13.3-201.fc20.x86_64, CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor at 800-3000/3000 MHz, RAM: 2877/7984 MB, Storage: 817/1818 GB, 178 procs, 3.42h upFeb 19 20:59
Sosumi:PFeb 19 21:00
MinceR"no u" would have sufficed, imo :>Feb 19 21:00
DaemonFCTrying to get Debian to make a decision is like asking for a group of those Ents from The Lord of the Rings to decide something.Feb 19 21:03
DaemonFCSeveral hours later, as the orcs and Saruman continue burning down the forest..... "We have decided.....that you are not orcs.". Feb 19 21:03
MinceRit's better to make a good decision slowly than to make a bad one quicklyFeb 19 21:04
MinceRthen again, i'm not sure if they'll make the right decisionFeb 19 21:04
MinceRthey could at least wait until systemd developers mature until they don't dismiss portability, modularity and inputFeb 19 21:05
Sosumidesign a neural network, teach itFeb 19 21:05
Sosumiand then have it make the decision for youFeb 19 21:06
Sosumimuch more reliable than Ent "patience" and probably not bound by biasesFeb 19 21:06
gde33I found how to run ubuntu as an application under windows sort of http://synergy-foss.org/ :)Feb 19 21:08
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gde33it's a wonderful thingFeb 19 21:08
MinceRthat was probably more of slow thought processes and slow communication than "patience"Feb 19 21:08
MinceRgde33: x2x and x2vnc are also useful :>Feb 19 21:09
Sosumiit depends, I thought that even in 2005 you had enough power to simulate portions or models after the human brainFeb 19 21:10
Sosumifaster than the neuron firing in the human brainFeb 19 21:11
MinceRents were portrayed as living more slowly than humansFeb 19 21:11
Sosumithey also lived longer :)Feb 19 21:12
MinceRindeedFeb 19 21:12
gde33you need to ask Gandalf basicallyFeb 19 21:12
MinceRbut so did elves, and they weren't slow :>Feb 19 21:12
Sosumithat makes me think on how pigeons perceive timeFeb 19 21:12
Sosumialways moving so fastFeb 19 21:12
MinceRthink of fliesFeb 19 21:13
Sosumiis for them a day something like 2 weeks?Feb 19 21:13
MinceRdunnoFeb 19 21:13
gde33I was just thinking how bacteria are able to figure things out but they cherish every idea because it takes so much effortFeb 19 21:13
MinceRbacteria don't even thinkFeb 19 21:14
gde33oh but they doFeb 19 21:14
MinceRthey just reproduce very quickly, which also allows them to evolve and adapt very quicklyFeb 19 21:14
gde33just as much as all the other creaturesFeb 19 21:14
Sosumibacteria think?Feb 19 21:14
gde33absolutlyFeb 19 21:14
SosumiI thought they just "survived"Feb 19 21:14
gde33there is also a lot of interspecies communication going on, chemicallyFeb 19 21:14
Sosumiwell ofcFeb 19 21:15
Sosumieven carrots have feelingsFeb 19 21:15
gde33fungi are briliantFeb 19 21:15
gde33take ants, look how advanced they are.Feb 19 21:16
gde33the fugi will do this to the ant http://www.endalldisease.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Ant-Mushroom-Head-EndAllDisease.jpgFeb 19 21:16
gde33grow a dedicated mushroom out of it's headFeb 19 21:16
Sosuminot badFeb 19 21:16
gde33really pwndFeb 19 21:16
gde33when 2 species interact one should wonder who has the pants onFeb 19 21:17
gde33did you ever see a pot smoker standing next to a weed plant?Feb 19 21:17
gde33hahahaFeb 19 21:17
gde33who is in charge?Feb 19 21:18
Sosumithe lil plantFeb 19 21:18
gde33I've smoked enough to be very exited by seeing the plantFeb 19 21:18
gde33it is almost like seeing a pretty womanFeb 19 21:18
Sosumigde33, are you biologist?Feb 19 21:19
SosumilolFeb 19 21:19
Sosumistay out of drugsFeb 19 21:19
Sosumithose things will only kill you in the long termFeb 19 21:19
gde33that is your natural response to the penomenonFeb 19 21:19
gde33dont do it!Feb 19 21:19
gde33you instinctively know about the covert opsFeb 19 21:19
gde33people are going to die anyway lolFeb 19 21:20
gde33the plant is supper old, we are the new speciesFeb 19 21:20
Sosumisome areFeb 19 21:20
Sosumibut at each day that passes folks are finding new ways to prevent and reverse agingFeb 19 21:21
gde33we can evolve better if we extend it a lotFeb 19 21:22
Sosumiand I actually think that the chalange for this century will certainly be the conquering of deathFeb 19 21:22
Sosumias well the birthing of AIFeb 19 21:22
SosumiI actually think both will have to come togetherFeb 19 21:23
gde33sure, it will no doubt be something modest like that.Feb 19 21:23
Sosumidue to the inability of the human to correlate vast amounts of informationFeb 19 21:23
gde33we have lots of things that are still to scary culturallyFeb 19 21:24
Sosumicompared to the portuguese maritime discoveries or the challenge to go the moonFeb 19 21:24
gde33we know that people remember previous lives and that their memories check outFeb 19 21:24
Sosumiit actually seems like a modest goalFeb 19 21:24
gde33dont think we are going to investigate that any time soonFeb 19 21:24
Sosumiprevious lives?Feb 19 21:24
gde33yes, people are able to tap into memories from dead peopleFeb 19 21:25
SosumiI've heard that some memories may be passed geneticallyFeb 19 21:25
gde33we know that in some cases the skull shape matches closely but the research field is largely anecdotalFeb 19 21:25
gde33imagine the skull like a radio dish pointing down :DFeb 19 21:26
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gde33we have lots of idiotic research that is just to hard to believeFeb 19 21:27
gde33things that sound crazy enough not to bother with themFeb 19 21:27
gde33like why do we have a hypnosis mode?Feb 19 21:28
gde33it makes no sense at all to have thatFeb 19 21:28
gde33or experimenter expectation?Feb 19 21:31
msb_Sosumi: What you call "drugs" -- psychedelics like cannabis at least -- are medicinal plants in our environment which can be very beneficial.Feb 19 21:31
gde33wtf is that?Feb 19 21:31
gde33I forgot about that part, how the plant, after taking over the human, starts purging other invadersFeb 19 21:31
gde33like, hey this is my human!Feb 19 21:32
msb_We live in a very anti-human culture that programs us with domination, male-supremacy, greed, etc.  Psychedelics can free up our minds so we can change our programming.  Open Source!Feb 19 21:33
Sosumiho yes those evil malesFeb 19 21:33
gde33wimmen can be even worse when they go thereFeb 19 21:34
msb_No one should dominate anyone else.Feb 19 21:34
SosumiI usually prefer the balanced approachFeb 19 21:35
msb_Our pineal glands make DMT.Feb 19 21:35
Sosumithere are somethings guys do better while there's other stuff that girls are better atFeb 19 21:35
Sosumicertainly you wouldn't leave a women carrying all the shoppings by herself?Feb 19 21:36
Sosuminor slicing lumberFeb 19 21:36
Sosumiand that pineal blab, DMT etcFeb 19 21:37
Sosumijust don't listen to david ikeFeb 19 21:37
Sosuminor to alex jonesFeb 19 21:37
Sosumithere's no green lizard out thereFeb 19 21:37
SosumiI'm actually surprised that icecrawler hasn't jumped in yetFeb 19 21:38
msb_Sosumi: In the long run your corporate info sources will not serve you well.Feb 19 21:38
Sosumiall media is propagandaFeb 19 21:39
Sosumiyou just need to sort out the trashFeb 19 21:39
Sosumikind of when recyclingFeb 19 21:40
msb_Sosumi: For critical thinking you must examine your own mind to find where your beliefs come from, and then explore many sources of information, compare them with your current model of reality, and employ the law of non-contradiction to determine the truth.Feb 19 21:40
Sosumiand now you're sounding like a "new age" teleevangelistFeb 19 21:41
Sosumiif you want truthFeb 19 21:41
Sosumilearn mathFeb 19 21:41
gde33replace critical thinking with objectivityFeb 19 21:41
msb_Sosumi: you're sounding like a put-down artistFeb 19 21:41
Sosuminumbers never lieFeb 19 21:41
gde33true but you can still do the wrong results with numbers Feb 19 21:42
msb_gde33: critical thinking and objectivity are one and the same.  One must think objectively about one's own mind, beliefs, and model of reality.Feb 19 21:42
gde33critical thinking tries to have reality live up to expectationsFeb 19 21:42
gde33it wants an answer more desperatelyFeb 19 21:43
msb_No.  Critical thinking seeks objective truth.Feb 19 21:43
gde33for you perhaps, it is not what I see in people who gather arround the termFeb 19 21:43
msb_Critical thinking = accurate thinking.Feb 19 21:43
gde33it seems more like : proof or it didn't happenFeb 19 21:44
gde33objectivity is more agnostic :PFeb 19 21:44
msb_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinkingFeb 19 21:45
gde33endless doubtingFeb 19 21:45
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gde33'Critical thinking is a tool by which one can come about reasoned conclusions'Feb 19 21:46
msb_Yes.  _Accurate_ reasoned conclusions.Feb 19 21:46
gde33https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_(philosophy)Feb 19 21:46
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gde33A proposition is generally considered objectively true (to have objective truth) when its truth conditions are met and are "mind-independent"—that is, existing freely or independently from a mind (from the thoughts, feelings, ideas, etc. of a sentient subject).Feb 19 21:47
gde33it doesn't account for experience basicallyFeb 19 21:47
gde33Like say god would land his saucer in your garden.Feb 19 21:49
msb_Experiencing isn't reasoning, but experience can give us information that we can reason about.Feb 19 21:49
gde33critical thinking would conclude it cant be himFeb 19 21:49
gde33but that isn't objective at allFeb 19 21:49
gde33it isnt' irrational, it is just to unlikely to even consider it being god himselfFeb 19 21:50
gde33tooFeb 19 21:50
msb_"god" is not a well-defined term.Feb 19 21:51
msb_There's no evidence for the existence of the JCI "god".Feb 19 21:51
gde33sure, but in the thought experiment he is really there :DFeb 19 21:52
msb_And the myth describes Jehovah as a genocidal psychopath.  Not what you'd want for a god.Feb 19 21:53
MinceRgood thing the myth is logically inconsistentFeb 19 21:53
MinceRso you can be sure it's false :>Feb 19 21:53
msb_yepFeb 19 21:53
gde33not at all, it just looks very much like it isFeb 19 21:53
gde33it may look enough like a fish to consider it a fish with great accuracyFeb 19 21:54
gde33like Louis Pasteur's weird ideasFeb 19 21:56
msb_Which were?Feb 19 21:56
gde33tiny creatures that eat youFeb 19 21:56
gde33surgeons should wash their hands between opperationsFeb 19 21:57
gde33correction, Ignaz Semmelweis proposed doctors wash their hands in the year 1847Feb 19 21:58
gde33The theory of diseases was highly influenced by ideas of an imbalance of the basic "four humours" in the body, a theory known as dyscrasia, for which the main treatment was bloodlettings. Feb 19 21:59
gde33before thatFeb 19 21:59
gde33http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HumorismFeb 19 21:59
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MinceRhumorists practice thisFeb 19 22:00
DaemonFChttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=200564030153636&set=a.154022068141166.1073741826.100006001205661&type=1Feb 19 22:00
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DaemonFCPosted this on the governor's facebook wall.Feb 19 22:00
gde33hahaFeb 19 22:01
gde33the chinese give the social support to corporationsFeb 19 22:03
gde33facinating conceptFeb 19 22:03
MinceRapparently so does the usaFeb 19 22:06
MinceR"corporations are people, my friend"Feb 19 22:06
DaemonFChttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=200566150153424Feb 19 22:13
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icecrawlerjust finished packaging firefox for centos, that mother fucker is still takes foreverFeb 20 00:31
msb_icecrawler: Hi!  Does it have to be packaged?  I just get it from the website and run it out of my account.Feb 20 00:36
msb_It upgrades itself there, too.Feb 20 00:36
msb_updatesFeb 20 00:37
DaemonFChttp://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/46240800.jpgFeb 20 01:39
DaemonFCAnother one I'm gonna post to our governor's wall.Feb 20 01:39
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icecrawlermsb_ im the guy who does all that work for youFeb 20 02:08
icecrawlersoftware doesn't package itselfFeb 20 02:08
msb_Well, I use OpenSuse, not Centos, but I know.  However, I get Firefox from its website, not the Suse repo.Feb 20 02:09
DaemonFCWhy compile Firefox for CentOS?Feb 20 02:13
DaemonFCMozilla builds the official binaries on CentOS.Feb 20 02:14
icecrawlerso it takes advantage of system libsFeb 20 02:14
DaemonFCIt stands to reason they'll work fine.Feb 20 02:14
icecrawlerthey just use our packages actuallyFeb 20 02:14
DaemonFCWell, if you want to use system libs, you might as well use GCC options to harden the binaries.Feb 20 02:14
DaemonFC:)Feb 20 02:14
DaemonFCDoes CentOS have a GCC that can protect against format string exploits?Feb 20 02:15
icecrawleryesFeb 20 02:15
DaemonFChttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FormatSecurityFeb 20 02:16
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icecrawlerin centos7Feb 20 02:16
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icecrawlerjono, ubuntu is going down mother fuckerFeb 20 02:21
icecrawlercentos is gonna burry debianFeb 20 02:21
icecrawlerredhat will pwn Mark ShuttlecockFeb 20 02:21
icecrawlerfor a GNU dawn!Feb 20 02:22
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SosumilolFeb 20 10:39
Sosumigtx titan black working on osx after a couple hours from being releasedFeb 20 10:40
Sosumitrashcan pro beaten againFeb 20 10:40
Sosumiho no, according to the crapple evangelistsFeb 20 10:40
Sosumipros use underclocked versions of cards released two years agoFeb 20 10:41
MinceR:>Feb 20 11:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436463891938549760  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436463362869043200 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436463196900458496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436447236156035072Feb 20 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: BitTorrent's revamped Android apps let you download just the files you want http://t.co/e98zKQjc10 #torrent #sharing #androidFeb 20 11:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Red Hat Increases its Focus on OpenStack Partnerships http://t.co/unCZpFbM5x #redhat #openstackFeb 20 11:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu phones arriving in 2014 from Meizu and BQ Readers http://t.co/tsSsn91qO0 spreading #gnu #linuxFeb 20 11:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux job market heats up http://t.co/znHy2Bqm0a studying #gnu #linux pays offFeb 20 11:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436447003179249664  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436446683732643840  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436446444791562241    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436446240650579968Feb 20 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Who helps your Linux distribution run smoothly? Thank a packager today http://t.co/yFYP4jqalC repos a strength of #gnu #linuxFeb 20 11:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: French local politicians support free software https://t.co/4NCFMePN8B #france #freedom #softwareFeb 20 11:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tizen-based Samsung smartwatch rumored http://t.co/m5c5cRTvJa #linux on the wrists. #tizenFeb 20 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Tizen-based Samsung smartwatch rumored ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 20 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: What Makes a Classic Linux Desktop 'Classic'? http://t.co/qOQIr7OLWc #gnu #linuxFeb 20 11:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436446108924252160  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436445499668037632  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436445309670293504  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436444835021852672Feb 20 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #OpenDaylight : Open Source Programming to the Software-Defined Network http://t.co/yLtNWHnjYP #sdn #linux #vmFeb 20 11:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Samsung leads Android pack in enterprise, but Lenovo looms http://t.co/vLAWeL7tp4 #samsung #lenovo #android #linuxFeb 20 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Samsung leads Android pack in enterprise, but Lenovo looms | ZDNetFeb 20 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Steam OS, client update brings audio improvements http://t.co/1wjuj0fFGp #steamos #debian #gnu #linux #gamesFeb 20 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Steam OS, client update brings audio improvements - MuktwareFeb 20 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Phusion Releases Robust Docker Base Image http://t.co/YnFOlwhLpC #docker #gnu #linuxFeb 20 11:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436444635796627456Feb 20 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Free cloud access to IBM Power servers for Linux Developers http://t.co/VDZWBAAxiU #ibm #gnu #linuxFeb 20 11:38
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schestowitzhttp://www.fakingnews.firstpost.com/2014/02/fb-to-make-one-final-acquisition-to-buy-nsa/Feb 20 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fakingnews.firstpost.com | Facebook to make one final acquisition, to buy NSA | Faking News [ http://ur1.ca/gnul7 ]Feb 20 11:49
Sosumifacebook can't buy its parent companyFeb 20 11:54
Sosumiaka the NSAFeb 20 11:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436472945633153024 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436472227123703808  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436471432663793664  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436471055520374784Feb 20 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA snooping continues to draw ire http://t.co/9onU2fxE5H http://t.co/YAXW1DwEGiFeb 20 12:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.centralfloridafuture.com/opinion/americans-must-fight-back-against-nsa-invasions-of-privacy-1.2856888#.UwXvoo7dPro )Feb 20 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Homeland Security wants to be the NSA of car snooping http://t.co/WP7vodLjgr cars: another tracking device, sometimes with microphonesFeb 20 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> theweek.com | Homeland Security wants to be the NSA of car snooping - The WeekFeb 20 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #nsa says it's an octopus that wants to spy on us from space http://t.co/AO33lGz6nn extra-terrestrial empireFeb 20 12:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Julian #Assange on Being Placed on NSA "Manhunting" List and Secret Targeting of #WikiLeaks Supporters http://t.co/lgpvVLTdqy videoFeb 20 12:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436470683388764160  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436469990074884096  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436469314171191296  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436468712968040448Feb 20 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #NSA Didn’t Like The Movie "Enemy Of The State" http://t.co/LxrAZyA67X not a bad movie, seen it weeks agoFeb 20 12:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 'I think it took Americans a long time to realize how upset German public is' http://t.co/XI0u4Csuxt #nsa #droNSAFeb 20 12:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Photography as a revolutionary act in land of the brave http://t.co/wjJBUeakfjFeb 20 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theverge.com | Seeing secrets: Trevor Paglen on photographing the NSA’s headquarters | The VergeFeb 20 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Feinstein would have loved the #stasi http://t.co/vyvHcm6inaFeb 20 12:21
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436468231784906753  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436467860966486016  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436467608389709824  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436465592238104576Feb 20 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Snowden...what he described as a government growing so secretive as to imperil American democracy." http://t.co/qNqPHSIcsR videoFeb 20 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: This new satire would be funny and almost believable if it said #NSA had bought #facebook http://t.co/KpGtVcVr8y in a way, it didFeb 20 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: We need to spy on citizens, to "obey" the law (this is how tyrannies work: you MIGHT be a criminal, hence no privacy) http://t.co/udYZP37wrBFeb 20 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA weighs enlarging collection of Americans' phone records: media http://t.co/xW2FZMUvgy ... https://t.co/U4UcWRziwGFeb 20 12:22
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schestowitzhttp://njjewishnews.com/article/21623/we-helped-kill-bad-ideas#.UwX0P47dProFeb 20 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-njjewishnews.com | ‘We helped kill bad ideas’ | NJJN [ http://ur1.ca/gnuvi ]Feb 20 12:26
schestowitzliertally killFeb 20 12:26
schestowitz*literallyFeb 20 12:26
schestowitzmore of the nonsense http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/air-force-pilots-are-learning-to-fly-blind-against-chinese-electromagnetic-strikesFeb 20 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | Air Force Pilots Are Learning to Fly Blind Against Chinese Electromagnetic Strikes | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/gnuvo ]Feb 20 12:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477338986225664  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477622948986880  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477808010067968   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477973693485056Feb 20 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Congress Unconscionably Silent on Obama's Constitutional Crimes http://t.co/upxVOayeAS #drones #droNSA #obamaFeb 20 12:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why is the world turning a blind eye to US drone http://t.co/O6ZD02crUq ... https://t.co/UNZhsy3dHCFeb 20 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pakistantoday.com.pk | Why is the world turning a blind eye to US drone strikes? | Pakistan TodayFeb 20 12:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Report: Yemen drone strike possibly violated international law http://t.co/Ia8OLG2DDU "possibly"?!Feb 20 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> america.aljazeera.com | Report: Yemen drone strike possibly violated international law | Al Jazeera AmericaFeb 20 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Stewart Blasts Obama on Drones: He’s the ‘All-Time Leader in Outside Battlefield Sky-Killing!’ http://t.co/04LiXqjH1l peace prize?!Feb 20 12:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436479436259880960  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436480784808280064  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436481355330117632Feb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #droNSA lie http://t.co/ySj7wVmCwS http://t.co/RMBm2KTZEE http://t.co/N8oAMRyzE8 http://t.co/MoEapppHPtFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hrw.org | US: Yemen Drone Strike May Violate Obama Policy | Human Rights WatchFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.todayszaman.com | New report contradicts US version of deadly drone strike - Today's Zaman, your gateway to Turkish daily newsFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> english.alarabiya.net | HRW urges U.S. to probe deadly drone strike in Yemen - Al Arabiya NewsFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.yahoo.com | Report: US drone may have killed dozen civilians - Yahoo NewsFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: UK shared ops room where drone targets were identified – Yemen president http://t.co/6PtghoDhbg #gchq #droNSA #assassinationFeb 20 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "UK, Germany, Australia, and other NATO partners support US drone strikes through intelligence-sharing." http://t.co/48VNMkQbDRFeb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalresearch.ca | Complaint Filed at International Criminal Court Over NATO Allies’ Complicity in US Drone Strikes | Global ResearchFeb 20 12:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436483198261149696   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436483651560542208   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436484105006755840    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436484384745848832Feb 20 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is the CIA Messing With Venezuela? http://t.co/QqKOuUPccl "Democracy and covert machinations on the scale we see today are incompatible."Feb 20 12:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Former #cia analyst cannot stage silent protest against CIA http://t.co/Hnsbw2BXxwFeb 20 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.countercurrents.org | Former CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Sues State Dept. For Putting Him On Watch ListFeb 20 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Snowden: Over-classification leads to decline of democracy http://t.co/315eAFJ32X secret society breeds distrust, rogue behaviourFeb 20 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rt.com | Snowden: Over-classification leads to decline of democracy — RT NewsFeb 20 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It is not impossible that Venezuela protests are grassroots, but due to past coup attempts by CIA one cannot know for sure. Loss of truth.Feb 20 12:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436488627145961472Feb 20 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday News: The Descent to #Totality http://t.co/xF8XskdLnW so now even silent protest is illegalFeb 20 13:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436488932961054720Feb 20 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: We are probably not far away from the point of jail time for merely reading a book or a Web page in the UK and US (maybe central EU also)Feb 20 13:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436489346464886784Feb 20 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In #facebook politicians and Western armies can openly call for assassination of people; but for us mere people even #activism means FB ban.Feb 20 13:15
gde33lolFeb 20 13:21
gde33I would totally confess to reading a book and demand the highest possible penalty for it, 1000 years solitary wouldn't be enough, I would NEVER learn.Feb 20 13:22
gde33But I wouldn't be against all censorship.Feb 20 13:25
msb_This article -- Is the CIA Messing With Venezuela? -- is slanted in two ways.  First, it takes as perfectly OK the idea that California, Texas and Florida will soon be controlled by foreign nationals -- illegal aliens from Mexico (and I guess Cuba).  Feb 20 13:44
msb_Second -- "the uber-rich “military industrial complex” behind the GOP agenda is abandoning the ballot box as the way they intend to rule going forward".  Obama has also abandoned the ballot boxes that elected Congress, and said he will enact whatever legislation he wants via executive orders.Feb 20 13:46
msb_Not that I favor either side of the OBPP -- One Big Property Party.Feb 20 13:47
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msb_Here's a good article to counter that previous "plucky little ally" one about Israel.  However, some of the comments on this one are atrocious.  http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/02/17/351047/zionists-celebrate-occupation-of-usa-americans-protest/Feb 20 14:00
msb_Where's the bot?  Looks like it's not running.Feb 20 14:01
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msbHere's a nice map of Europe showing the location of Ukraine:  http://www.feriasalimentarias.com/worldfood-ukraine/ukraine.gifFeb 20 16:41
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Sosumithe EU just imposed sanctions on ukraineFeb 20 17:31
SosumiI wander if they are that dumb to impose "economical warfare" (because that is what sanctions mean)Feb 20 17:32
Sosumion a distressed countryFeb 20 17:32
Sosumiimpose, no, Feb 20 17:33
Sosumiactually, declare economical warfareFeb 20 17:33
Guest63015https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3667498  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3667936  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668023Feb 20 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Verizon Makes the Death of #NetNeutrality in the US More Official http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/war-on-publishers/ #verizon #internetFeb 20 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Samsung Capitulates to Rights Violations Amid Undermined Federal Laws and Obligatory Kill Switches http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/samsung-oppression/Feb 20 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: No Need for #Microsoft Inside GNU/Linux, Demand for Microsoft/Windows is Diminishing http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/steam-os-and-trends/Feb 20 17:44
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Guest63015https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668057  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668172  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668295Feb 20 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Free Software News Roundup: Careers, Liberations, and Lots More http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/careers-liberation-with-foss/ #freesw #opensourceFeb 20 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Anti-’Terror’ Squads for the War on SharingFeb 20 17:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Security News: Education, DDoS, Linksys, SpamAssassin Release… http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/security-news-2014/Feb 20 17:44
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Guest63015https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668321Feb 20 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/63481Feb 20 17:44
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Sosumialso if you buy Lacie HDDsFeb 20 18:06
Sosumiwell don'tFeb 20 18:06
Sosumithey just introduced new modelsFeb 20 18:07
Sosumiall featuring Seagate insidesFeb 20 18:07
Sosumiso they went from hitachi deskstars/ultrastars to SeagateFeb 20 18:08
SosumilawlFeb 20 18:08
msbCRG article says Ukraine rebels are fascists: http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-and-the-rebirth-of-fascism-in-europe/5366852Feb 20 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Ukraine and the Rebirth of Fascism in Europe | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gnxfp ]Feb 20 18:27
schestowitz__msb: many areFeb 20 18:28
schestowitz__I used to think it was just BBC et al. spinning rebellion as NaziFeb 20 18:29
schestowitz__But people from there mostly say the same -- that it's quite out of handFeb 20 18:29
schestowitz__!google leak us fuck europe ukraineFeb 20 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26079957Feb 20 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - "F**k The EU" - US State Department Blasts Europe; Revealed As ... | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-06/fuck-eu-us-state-department-blasts-europe-revealed-alleged-mastermind-behind-ukraineFeb 20 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - US official apologises to EU counterparts for undiplomatic language ... | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/06/us-ukraine-russia-eu-victoria-nulandFeb 20 18:29
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU ... | http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/07/us-usa-ukraine-tape-idUSBREA1601G20140207Feb 20 18:29
msbschestowitz__: I've found CRG to be a reliable source for "alternative" politcal news.Feb 20 18:29
msb...i.e., not govt/corporate propagandaFeb 20 18:30
schestowitz__it's mostly good, hence demonisedFeb 20 18:31
schestowitz__See the wikipedia pages about the site and its founderFeb 20 18:31
schestowitz__hack jobs... designed merely to discreditFeb 20 18:32
schestowitz__nd watch where most of the complaints come fromFeb 20 18:32
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3666732Feb 20 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #OpenDaylight : O...Feb 20 18:35
schestowitz__""Even Microsoft, yes Microsoft, is getting it. When I spoke recently with .."|Feb 20 18:35
msbCRG's Michel Chossudovsky is a 9-11 "truther".  (like me)Feb 20 18:36
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3666231Feb 20 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "law in place tha...Feb 20 18:37
schestowitz__"Good. The person who wrote this article sounds like a tobacco PR flack when talking about "personal decisions" and other BS. People are fined for not having a proper seat for their kids. I'd like them to be fined every time they blow smoke on other people. I don't even like being stuck behind a smoker as I drive - it makes me feel sick. Being stuck inside that car as a kid, from what a friend tells me, is miserable and the worst of Feb 20 18:37
schestowitz__the second hand smoke. Every kid will be happy that they get a small break from that."Feb 20 18:37
schestowitz__msb: nopeFeb 20 18:37
schestowitz__he's described as suchFeb 20 18:37
schestowitz__because of people who write in his siteFeb 20 18:37
schestowitz__he -- asaik like me-- thinks there were lapses in intel and responseFeb 20 18:37
schestowitz__i don't think he actually wrote himself about some of the claims people make about the tower's collapse, unless you can prove otherwiseFeb 20 18:38
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667067Feb 20 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | 'I think it took ...Feb 20 18:38
schestowitz__"I don't think most people have a clue."Feb 20 18:38
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667184Feb 20 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "UK, Germany, Aus...Feb 20 18:38
schestowitz__sick"77Feb 20 18:38
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667090Feb 20 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | The #NSA Didn’t L...Feb 20 18:39
schestowitz__They might actually like that propaganda drivelthat is person of interest (equating privacy with secrecy)."77"Feb 20 18:39
msb"criticized Chussodovsky's thesis and views — namely: that the U.S. had knowledge of the September 11 attacks before they happened;" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_ChossudovskyFeb 20 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Michel Chossudovsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/glew9 ]Feb 20 18:39
schestowitz__There is a new Costner film coming, it will manufacture  consent for assassinations, like those of DroNSAFeb 20 18:39
schestowitz__"|I wonder how they liked the TV show person of interest. Although they weren't mentioned literally."Feb 20 18:39
schestowitz__msb: different from your viewsFeb 20 18:40
schestowitz__there's an attempt to lump all 9/11 analysis critics wth laser shit and aliens and whatnotFeb 20 18:41
schestowitz__to say that the US claimed the towers had fallen before they did it separate from claiming these got demolished by US govFeb 20 18:41
msbMy 9/11 analysis has nothing to do with  "laser shit and aliens and whatnot".Feb 20 18:42
schestowitz__But you're lumped together with a loaded viewFeb 20 18:42
schestowitz__And the whole drama which is "Bush getting told at a school of what had just happened"Feb 20 18:43
schestowitz__It's like a movie plotFeb 20 18:43
msbIn fact, I show how the gang that says that stuff are running a COINTELPRO operation against the real 911 researchers.Feb 20 18:43
schestowitz__But that doesn't mean it actually was a prepared plotFeb 20 18:43
schestowitz__these people are "dangerous"Feb 20 18:43
schestowitz__They are critical of the govFeb 20 18:43
schestowitz__and many are US-basedFeb 20 18:44
msbhttp://cosmicpenguin.com/911/disinfo.htmlFeb 20 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The No-WTC-Planes/Video-Fakery/Energy-Beams Disinformation Gang [ http://ur1.ca/gnxmb ]Feb 20 18:44
schestowitz__so they are basically dangerous to Power even it they're wrong Feb 20 18:44
msbhttp://cosmicpenguin.com/911/Feb 20 18:44
schestowitz__1google congress us nine percent\Feb 20 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli GovernmentsFeb 20 18:44
schestowitz__!google congress us nine percentFeb 20 18:44
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Congressional Approval Sinks to Record Low: 9% - Gallup.Com | http://www.gallup.com/poll/165809/congressional-approval-sinks-record-low.aspxFeb 20 18:44
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The 9%: Congress's Approval Rating Hits the Single Digits | TIME.com | http://swampland.time.com/2013/11/12/the-9-congress-approval-rating-hits-the-single-digits/Feb 20 18:44
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Congressional Performance - Rasmussen Reports™ | http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_performanceFeb 20 18:44
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Congressional approval at all-time low of 9%, according to new CBS ... | http://www.cbsnews.com/news/congressional-approval-at-all-time-low-of-9-according-to-new-cbs-news-new-york-times-poll/Feb 20 18:44
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667333Feb 20 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | We are probably n...Feb 20 18:45
msbRead my main 911 page.  It explains what happened in simple terms with implanted conventional explosives.Feb 20 18:45
schestowitz__"Brazil has glimpses on that http://is.gd/1KlrAV "Feb 20 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-is.gd | is.gd - Shortened URLFeb 20 18:45
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667498Feb 20 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Verizon Makes the...Feb 20 18:45
schestowitz__"This is not the first time Netflix has been extorted by ISPs, but it is depressing they must pay again. Comcast successfully demanded money from them to avoid interference previously. Like all extortion, it never ends and ISPs "manage" traffic from Netflix. My own upload is also crippled. How disgusting. Because my ISP is dishonest, I pay them as little as I can."Feb 20 18:45
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667498Feb 20 18:45
schestowitz__"We should really get independent from ISPs; There's no need for them, the internet would work nicely without them and even better."Feb 20 18:45
msbI can't help people "lumping me together" with those I totally disagree with, publicly.Feb 20 18:46
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/conversations?conversation_id=43178Feb 20 18:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Diaspora* / Sign in [ http://ur1.ca/4c80w ]Feb 20 18:46
schestowitz__"Hi, I read a post by you some while ago about secure browsing, where you said that startpage.com and duckduckgo.com are not as secured as they were. I forgot what you proposed instead of them. Can you please please tell me what it was, I can't find that post, it's been some while since then :("Feb 20 18:46
msbMost people don't know how to think accurately.Feb 20 18:46
schestowitz__I still haven't found a substitute for inquick.Feb 20 18:46
schestowitz__ixquickFeb 20 18:47
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436563467815092224  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436563942035709952  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436564073283858432  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436565287471972352Feb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Hardware freedom day is weeks away http://t.co/KSDThPD90xFeb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hfday.org | Hardware Freedom Day - HomeFeb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "The Maduro administration has responded by cracking down on what it claims as being foreign interference online." https://t.co/ALs36GljU1Feb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org | Venezuela's Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout | Electronic Frontier FoundationFeb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #openbsd fund-raising close to the goal http://t.co/Fx333XpQw7Feb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openbsdfoundation.org | The OpenBSD Foundation 2014 Fundraising CampaignFeb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Steam's Linux game count explodes in one year, big publishers still absent http://t.co/TBIyFhOx2o #steam #gnu #linuxFeb 20 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | Steam's Linux game count explodes in one year, big publishers still absent | PCWorldFeb 20 18:48
msbschestowitz__: Whom are you quoting?  "Hi, I read a post by you some while ago about secure browsing..."Feb 20 18:49
schestowitz__someone from D*Feb 20 18:56
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schestowitz__http://uncrunched.com/2014/02/19/fail-fail-win-never-give-up/Feb 20 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uncrunched.com | Fail Fail Win: Never Give Up | Uncrunched [ http://ur1.ca/gnxu0 ]Feb 20 19:10
schestowitz__"Maduro's fighting a tough battle against the CIA"Feb 20 19:10
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668463Feb 20 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "The Maduro admin...Feb 20 19:10
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668647  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668663  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668704 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668717Feb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux – The Top 5 Lightweight Distros of 2014 http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/02/linux-the-top-5-lightweight-distros-of-2014/ #gnu #linuxFeb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamerheadlines.com | Linux - The Top 5 Lightweight Distros of 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/gnxwu ]Feb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pico scopes now run Linux http://www.newelectronics.co.uk/electronics-news/pico-scopes-now-run-linux/59659/ #pico #linuxFeb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newelectronics.co.uk | Pico scopes now run Linux [ http://ur1.ca/gnxwv ]Feb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Embedded World: Silica dev boards run Linux http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/design/embedded-systems/embedded-world-silica-dev-boards-run-linux-2014-02/ #silica #linux #embeddedFeb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.electronicsweekly.com | Electronics Weekly News | Embedded Systems | Embedded World: Silica dev boards run Linux [ http://ur1.ca/gnxww ]Feb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Will Chrome OS and Android dominate the 2014 Linux desktop? http://www.ciol.com/ciol/news/209348/will-chrome-os-android-dominate-2014-linux-desktop #android #chromeos #gnu #linuxFeb 20 19:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ciol.com | Will Chrome OS and Android dominate the 2014 Linux desktop? - CIOL [ http://ur1.ca/gnxwx ]Feb 20 19:17
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668720Feb 20 19:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Will Chrome OS an...Feb 20 19:33
schestowitz__I think they already do!"77"Feb 20 19:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436584971353202688  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436585279705853952  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436585457410121729  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436585960634318848\Feb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Apple 'snapped up' sapphire displays, says Canonical founder http://t.co/I9BVRvJ1R8 #apple #gnu #linux #ubuntu #greedFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.cnet.com | Apple 'snapped up' sapphire displays, says Canonical founder | Apple - CNET NewsFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux 3.14 File-System HDD Benchmarks http://t.co/cPiNyNHzJ0 #linux #benchmark #kernelFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Linux 3.14 File-System HDD BenchmarksFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Walloon e-government should prefer open source https://t.co/CMHNzfY7sj #egov #freeswFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Walloon e-government should prefer open source | JoinupFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Say goodbye free time, Steam for Linux content rises 900% http://t.co/oQC5ZpbUdA #steamos #gnu #linux #gamesFeb 20 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Say goodbye to free time, Steam for Linux content rises 900% -MuktwareFeb 20 19:49
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436586167614849024 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436586720675766272 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436586944790032384 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436587380473339904 Feb 20 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Apple Veteran Named PayPal’s First Head of 'Open' Software http://t.co/iJz0q8y68T she also wrote GPL-hostile licence, helped #billgatesFeb 20 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | Apple Veteran Named PayPal's First Head of Open Source Software | Wired Enterprise | Wired.comFeb 20 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Joyent Partners with #Canonical on Customized Ubuntu as a Cloud Service http://t.co/tf80dRUowp #gnu #linuxFeb 20 19:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Teachers Romania oblivious about open source https://t.co/YxdhFKmlu1 #romania is quite the story of #microsoft interventionFeb 20 19:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Free, Open #Enea Linux taps Yocto and Linaro code http://t.co/ecWcEm7mJ5 "community-backed Open Enea #Linux platform"Feb 20 19:50
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436587913942671360 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436588093370810368Feb 20 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open source for Flanders' Open Data Platform https://t.co/WHjjMm9iu4 #opendata #sharingFeb 20 19:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Visa, MasterCard start using Android for mobile payments http://t.co/80Znd5khuX #android #linuxFeb 20 19:50
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MinceRholy spam, batmanFeb 20 19:50
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schestowitz__MinceR: links of interest, I thought...Feb 20 19:57
schestowitz__while Toby's bots are awayFeb 20 19:57
MinceRicFeb 20 19:57
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668720Feb 20 20:04
schestowitz__"I hope not!"Feb 20 20:04
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436591447807381505  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436593207586336768  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436593263093776384   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436593553616408576   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436594031754502144Feb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 1 in 4 in US Unaware the Earth Orbits the Sun http://t.co/rq32O1dAmn "66 percent of European Union residents answered that one correctly."Feb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> newsfeed.time.com | 1 in 4 Americans Think Sun Revolves Around Earth: Study | TIME.comFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Krita will soon be available on Steam http://t.co/JG1yrOnOpC #freesw on #steam - awesome! #kde #gnu #linuxFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Krita will soon be available on Steam - MuktwareFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Possible Summer Improvements To The GCC Compiler http://t.co/I8RrVCWK6I #gcc #gnuFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Possible Summer Improvements To The GCC CompilerFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A Look into the Open Source Hardware Community http://t.co/tvKtrv9Qls #openhardware #freedom #hackingFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.open-electronics.org | A Look into the Open Source Hardware Community | Open ElectronicsFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Systemd 209 Is A Massive Release, Readies Kdbus http://t.co/qSzzPFJQ8h #systemd #linux #kdbusFeb 20 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Systemd 209 Is A Massive Release, Readies KdbusFeb 20 20:22
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436594479165104129 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436594895856607232  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436596035717431296  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436596156354027521Feb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Five Key Features of a Project Designed for Open Collaboration http://t.co/wgvTaw1m5C #freedom #sharing #collaborationFeb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Five Key Features of a Project Designed for Open Collaboration | Linux.comFeb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #WhatsApp becomes part of #prism which helps #droNSA decide who to assassinate based on metadata http://t.co/3aisYiHklpFeb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Facebook to buy WhatsApp for 19 billion - MuktwareFeb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: You'll NEVER guess who's building the first Ubuntu phones in 2014 http://t.co/Fi8uaKsAvJ http://t.co/lNu7TVeyIk #ubuntuFeb 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | You'll NEVER guess who's building the first Ubuntu phones in 2014 • The RegisterFeb 20 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Muktware becoming like the new The H... KDE is helping an Australian wine maker, time to get drunk http://t.co/470lbwcMyp #kde #gnu #linuxFeb 20 20:23
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schestowitz__"I hope not!"Feb 20 20:25
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668828Feb 20 20:26
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schestowitz__'I don't have a lot of time but it's nice to have choices..."Feb 20 20:26
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668948Feb 20 21:19
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schestowitz__"All your contacts are belong to US"Feb 20 21:20
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schestowitz__"Good thing, I never used it in spite of the peer pressure. ;)"Feb 20 21:20
schestowitz__https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsAppFeb 20 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nl.wikipedia.org | WhatsApp - WikipediaFeb 20 21:20
schestowitz__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsAppFeb 20 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | WhatsApp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 20 21:21
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schestowitz__"German Tech site The H demonstrated how to use WhatsAPI to hijack any WhatsApp account on September 14, 2012.[32] Shortly after, a legal threat to WhatsAPI's developers was alleged, characterized by The H as "an apparent reaction" to security reports, and WhatsAPI's source code was taken down for some days.[33] The WhatsAPI team has since returned to active development"Feb 20 21:21
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schestowitz__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_KoumFeb 20 21:32
schestowitz__"In 1997 Jan Koum was hired by Yahoo as an infrastructure engineer, shortly after he met Brian Acton while working at Ernst & Young as a security tester[5]. Over the next nine years, they worked at Yahoo. In September 2007 Koum and Acton left Yahoo and took a year off, traveling around South America and playing ultimate frisbee. Both applied, and failed, to work at Facebook. In January 2009, he bought an iPhone and realized that the Feb 20 21:32
schestowitz__then seven-month old App Store was about to spawn a whole new industry of apps. He visited his friend Alex Fishman and talked about of an app over[5]. Koum almost immediately chose the name WhatsApp because it sounded like “what’s up,” and a week later on his birthday, Feb. 24, 2009, he incorporated WhatsApp Inc. in California[5]."Feb 20 21:32
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoumFeb 20 21:32
schestowitz__writing in RussianFeb 20 21:32
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/433084413325238272Feb 20 21:32
schestowitz__So it's actually a US company staying in the USFeb 20 21:32
schestowitz__not a new addition for the NSAFeb 20 21:32
schestowitz__http://zyalt.livejournal.com/983675.htmlFeb 20 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jan Koum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 20 21:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: @TypaHTaeB можете прислать мне более подробную информацию на мыло? jan собака http://t.co/RBnRYbqz9F … спасибо.Feb 20 21:32
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schestowitz__http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2014/02/19/exclusive-inside-story-how-jan-koum-built-whatsapp-into-facebooks-new-19-billion-baby/Feb 20 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Exclusive: The Rags-To-Riches Tale Of How Jan Koum Built WhatsApp Into Facebook's New $19 Billion Baby - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gnyw5 ]Feb 20 21:36
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/425891893298208768Feb 20 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: Who the fuck is Diana Chub and why does german wikipedia entry for WhatsApp says she founded WhatsApp? #confused http://t.co/ZpllpAxfaJFeb 20 21:37
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/394259718606053376Feb 20 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: Every day our users share over 400 million photos via WhatsApp... #erlang #freebsdFeb 20 21:38
schestowitz__NSA wantsFeb 20 21:38
schestowitz__and fuckerfaceFeb 20 21:39
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/316961998304845824Feb 20 21:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: WhatsApp Messenger: Made in USA. Land of the free and the home of the brave.Feb 20 21:39
schestowitz__no sarcasm?Feb 20 21:39
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/262099630773399552Feb 20 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: New York bathroom http://t.co/p4ceFVxBFeb 20 21:40
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schestowitz__http://www.muktware.com/2014/02/google-fiber-may-roll-additional-34-new-cities/21371Feb 20 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.muktware.com | Google Fiber may roll out to an additional 34 new cities - Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gnz0u ]Feb 20 22:01
schestowitz__BT does that too here, but it's used for surveillanceFeb 20 22:01
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436611846637109250  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436615080072208384 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436625735391145984Feb 20 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "German Tech site The H demonstrated how to use WhatsAPI to hijack any WhatsApp account on September 14, 2012" http://t.co/wh22sxtV0vFeb 20 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Photos from #ukraine http://t.co/FjhESmnQVRFeb 20 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Updated TDF Board and New #LibreOffice Release http://t.co/eMv8iLWYNN #tdf #openofficeFeb 20 22:19
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668948Feb 20 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #WhatsApp becomes...Feb 20 22:42
schestowitz__and a bunch of pension money once again flows to some Bill Gates connected crony. $19 billion, four in cash, the rest in FB toilet paper stock. That four billion probably came from the "institutional investors" suckered by the FB IPO - firemen, policemen, teachers, widows and orphans who won't get the money they are expecting and deserve.""Feb 20 22:42
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436626621857284096  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436635343748878336Feb 20 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Today's big acquisition shows that no matter how bad you are, if you're in surveillance, then because - not despite - bad economy, you get $Feb 20 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Holy crap, what has happened to Slashdot? Looks like a blog with #Microsoft slant and former Microsoft moles. #slashdot #diceFeb 20 22:56
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XFaCEschestowitz__: acquisition?Feb 21 00:16
XFaCEWhatsApp?Feb 21 00:16
icecrawler<schestowitz__> and fuckerfaceFeb 21 00:47
icecrawlernice high horse you're ridingFeb 21 00:47
icecrawlerand "mother fucker" is offensive...Feb 21 00:47
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prurigrohe mad? I think he madFeb 21 06:06
DaemonFCMy stepdad was looking at iPhones.Feb 21 06:14
DaemonFCI steered him towards a Moto G instead.Feb 21 06:15
DaemonFCYou can get an unlocked Moto G 16 GB for $199 then put a Straight Talk sim card in it and get unlimited everything for $45 a month.Feb 21 06:15
DaemonFCIt's limited to 3G, but that's all you get in most parts of Indiana anyway. :PFeb 21 06:16
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668803Feb 21 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Apple 'snapped up...Feb 21 07:33
schestowitz__"They have been accused of this kind of thing before - cornering the market, bribing manufacturers. It does not seem to have helped them because Android has over run them anyway."Feb 21 07:33
schestowitz__"CNet and Gigohm are doing a silly thing. They are talking about what great features the next spyPhone will have and ignoring the anti-trust implications of buying out Canonical's suppliers. That's really shit of them."Feb 21 07:34
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schestowitz__FSF hostility continues http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/84851Feb 21 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | gNewSense 3.1: The FSF-approved Linux distro that's stuck in 2010 [ http://ur1.ca/go1q7 ]Feb 21 08:05
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436777977247186944  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436777434323881984  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436777332075134976   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436775158960119808Feb 21 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open source: A fad no more http://t.co/4MwTFPyE1J can be taken for granted now, almost...Feb 21 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open Source Sochi Maps Beat Google's Versions http://t.co/sKgVrBqaEz #opendata more accurateFeb 21 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Gavin Andresen To #Bitcoin Companies: Support Open Source http://t.co/b6PWShM6hWFeb 21 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Leaked: Linux’s Look Back Facebook Video http://t.co/fnOBPOj3Ux #linuxFeb 21 08:26
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436771835192295424 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436771396753321984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436768752559218688  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436768393996533761Feb 21 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: PHL among countries to get first crack at Ubuntu smartphones http://t.co/QstIHOkUUn #gnu #linuxFeb 21 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu Touch x86 emulator improves security, OpenGL http://t.co/muNs0ndEcG #ubuntu #opengl #gnu #linuxFeb 21 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu 14.04 brings back menus in application windows http://t.co/rv9AiL2XLl #ubuntu #gnu #linuxFeb 21 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Live Stream: Richard Stallman, A Free Digital Society http://t.co/QtoUCazBZk #gnu #fsfFeb 21 08:26
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schestowitz__After I published a short interview about Diaspora (RMS on Diaspora) someone took it upon himself/herself to post all the political notes from stallman.org in diaspora, under an RMS account.Feb 21 08:40
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436780008724758528   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436780297720721408    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436780649928998912    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436781106030202880    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436781712513961985Feb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #bitcoin gains http://t.co/lde1RIcBySFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> edition.cnn.com | Bitcoin ATMs coming to the U.S. - CNN.comFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "More smears on bitcoin, and (unrelated) swipes against anonymity, something which bitcoin does not provide..." https://t.co/N8L0j7lI8WFeb 21 08:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The US has bullied our banks into handing over a billion dollars http://t.co/JRGEGFSYLd applying US law in the EUFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | The US has bullied our banks into handing over a billion dollars - TelegraphFeb 21 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: RIAA Accuses Grooveshark of Making Piracy a Job Requirement http://t.co/4ZXvxxmOhn the same people who lie so habituallyFeb 21 08:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Noam Chomsky: Why Americans Are Paranoid About Everything (Including Zombies) http://t.co/LnvWDZF5lW control by fearFeb 21 08:52
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436800953308954624  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436801110813454336  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436812080457711616Feb 21 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: [RT] Security News: Education, DDoS, Linksys, SpamAssassin Release… http://t.co/Fqts2H17TU #spamassassin #linksys #ddosFeb 21 10:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: ‘Cloud’ Watch: ownCloud, CloudStack, OpenStack, Hadoop and More http://t.co/fzyS1rByAW #fogcomputingFeb 21 10:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In Another Attempt to Derail British #ODF Policy #Microsoft Calls Its Systematic Bribery "Internationally Recognised" http://t.co/X3fT0YpmAdFeb 21 10:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436815957756235776Feb 21 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Latest Examples of Public Sector Moves to Free Software http://t.co/QrUpDTDoA4 #uk #eu #fr #de #ch #nl etc.Feb 21 10:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436816497756090368Feb 21 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Vi https://t.co/HteNswYouSFeb 21 10:57
Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/02/20/adobe-flash-update-2/Feb 21 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Adobe Releases Another Emergency Update for Flash - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/go2s6 ]Feb 21 10:59
Sosumianother bandaidFeb 21 11:00
Sosumiadobe's trash player is like damFeb 21 11:01
Sosumiif it develops a crack you certainly aren't going to duct tape the whole thingFeb 21 11:02
Sosumiinstead, you decommission it and build a new oneFeb 21 11:03
Sosumion this case, just kill flashFeb 21 11:03
Sosumiand have it replaced by something elseFeb 21 11:03
Sosumilike html5Feb 21 11:03
MinceRunfortunately, html5 is turning into the exact same kind of proprietary garbageFeb 21 11:06
MinceRthanks to w3c, tbl, m$, crApple, MPEG LA and the MAFIAAFeb 21 11:06
MinceRgeekingsFeb 21 11:07
SosumiyesFeb 21 11:14
SosumiI read about them trying to integrate DRM into html5Feb 21 11:14
schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436830359901446145  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436835923297574912  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436840657412689921Feb 21 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Good Advocacy by the @LinuxFoundation Stresses the Jobs Effect, But Should Mention #GNU Also http://t.co/29Z1nZBPnc #linuxFeb 21 12:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu Makes Many Headlines Again, This Time Because of Real Phones http://t.co/bxuRUUXkce #gnu #linux #Feb 21 12:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Links 21/2/2014: Games http://t.co/40XDehFdiM Applications http://t.co/7mldl78RrY Instructionals http://t.co/jsCtNAy4DWFeb 21 12:32
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Sosumi!google html5 drmFeb 21 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - DRM In HTML5: What Is Tim Berners-Lee Thinking? | Techdirt | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131016/06583824895/drm-html5-what-is-tim-berners-lee-thinking.shtmlFeb 21 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Lowering Your Standards: DRM and the Future of the W3C ... | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/lowering-your-standardsFeb 21 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Berners-Lee and W3C approve HTML5 video DRM additions ... | http://www.infoworld.com/t/html5/berners-lee-and-w3c-approve-html5-video-drm-additions-228220Feb 21 12:40
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Tell W3C: We don't want the Hollyweb | Defective by Design | http://www.defectivebydesign.org/no-drm-in-html5Feb 21 12:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Gates-funded (for agenda) 'guardian' still seems to be foolishly using #Microsoft #Windows http://t.co/kM7l2bckbCFeb 21 13:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: RSA, NSA-bribed event, gets press. TrustyCon, dubbed "The Trustworthy Technology Conference," funded by NSA-funded PRISM members. #microsoftFeb 21 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why AT&T’s Surveillance Report Omits 80 Million NSA Targets http://t.co/bVogwUeskv #droNSA #target #nsa #espionageFeb 21 13:28
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436852470325997568  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436852599070154752  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436852901362016257 Feb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When #europe realises that #pentagon created Internet is now #surveillance apparatus, will other continents get it? http://t.co/yAu4w2FgmCFeb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itproportal.com | NSA snooping must not disrupt global Internet governance model, warns EU politician | ITProPortal.comFeb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #NSA once banned Furbies as a threat to national security http://t.co/SwF0PVwIA6 it's not satire.Feb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> io9.com | The NSA once banned Furbies as a threat to national securityFeb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Mikulski defends #stasi state http://t.co/vopVSpkrRj #nsaFeb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.usnews.com | Mikulski Denounces Bill That Would Deny NSA 'Material Support' in Maryland - US NewsFeb 21 13:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436853626540417024  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436854106293297152Feb 21 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program http://t.co/BDTZvfqPwh http://t.co/HdBNYJE76KFeb 21 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com | Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program - Network WorldFeb 21 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | NSA/PRISM on Steroids: Microsoft Lync | TechrightsFeb 21 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA Spying Leaves Law Firms Vulnerable To Litigation http://t.co/XClO9ChcqZ this will hurt US-based "law" firmsFeb 21 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.law360.com | NSA Spying Leaves Law Firms Vulnerable To Litigation - Law360Feb 21 13:30
schestowitzA church's concerns http://www.catholic.org/news/blog/story.php?id=54184Feb 21 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catholic.org | NSA Spy's on 'YOU' in your own Home! - Blog - Catholic Online [ http://ur1.ca/go3wo ]Feb 21 13:39
schestowitzLOLFeb 21 13:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436855868098093056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436858000608096256  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436859314343796736Feb 21 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nsa undermines justice itself http://t.co/hyUPgHm2jv violating relationships (client-lawyer), not just breaking the law itselfFeb 21 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> posttrib.suntimes.com | Lots to see in battle of surveillance lawsuits - Post-TribuneFeb 21 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #fbi thinks #espionage by government and #oppression of domestic population is what government is really for http://t.co/cPnWnVC85DFeb 21 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> kfor.com | FBI director on NSA controversy: ‘Government operating as it was designed’ | KFOR.comFeb 21 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NSA lawsuits may lead to expansion of spying program http://t.co/Pm4N3KvHDA intoxicated by Power. #droNSAFeb 21 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtontimes.com | NSA lawsuits may lead to expansion of spying program - Washington TimesFeb 21 14:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436859781320810496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436860330007076864  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436860765317120002Feb 21 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Intel chief dodges #NSA questions in #Reddit AMA http://t.co/vDvCNsizs9 #intel as the same suggests is playing ball for #nsaFeb 21 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.sfgate.com | Intel chief dodges NSA questions in Reddit AMA - The Technology ChroniclesFeb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Linux Foundation, which is founded and funded by some #nsa partners, has said almost nothing about the NSA scandals.Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nsa "public relations" http://t.co/0aq5DX0zUA #perceptionManagement #pr #espionage #armyFeb 21 14:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.stabroeknews.com/2014/news/regional/02/21/venezuelas-violent-crime-fuels-death-business/Feb 21 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stabroeknews.com | Venezuela’s violent crime fuels the death business - Stabroek News - Georgetown, Guyana [ http://ur1.ca/go4ea ]Feb 21 15:08
schestowitz"The government is responsible, the opposition argues, for being soft on crime, for politicizing and corrupting institutions such as the judiciary, and for glorifying violence in public discourse."Feb 21 15:08
schestowitzhttp://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/02/20/the-libyan-bedlam-general-hifter-the-cia-and-the-unfinished-coup/Feb 21 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foreignpolicyjournal.com | The Libyan Bedlam: General Hifter, the CIA and the Unfinished Coup - Foreign Policy Journal | Foreign Policy Journal [ http://ur1.ca/go4ir ]Feb 21 15:25
schestowitzhttp://www.eurasiareview.com/21022014-saudis-cia-agree-arm-syrian-moderates-advanced-weapons-oped/Feb 21 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurasiareview.com | Saudis And CIA Agree To Arm Syrian 'Moderates' With Advanced Weapons - OpEd Eurasia Review [ http://ur1.ca/go4ke ]Feb 21 15:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436874385249824768 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436876051311235072  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436876432816734209  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436876752036843520  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436877094707281921Feb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Rand Paul: The NSA is still violating our rights, despite what James Clapper says http://t.co/7D4zzzrttD #nsaFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | The NSA is still violating Americans' rights, despite what James Clapper says | Rand Paul | Comment is free | theguardian.comFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Upgrading the NSA-powered assassination machinery http://t.co/nbJEEofmAr #nsa #droNSA #ciaFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | New Jet-Powered Drone Can Kill 1,800 Miles From Home Base | Danger Room | Wired.comFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why a Pakistani reporter is suing the #CIA for murder http://t.co/3E5Iht0PFf http://t.co/FcXaqz3Jah try #nsa tooFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.csmonitor.com | Why a Pakistani reporter is suing the CIA for murder - CSMonitor.comFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> pakobserver.net | Drone attacksFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #drones have the same effect as terrorism http://t.co/Kvph43KXfPFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.poughkeepsiejournal.com | NO TITLEFeb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: One of the very last set of attacks from #drones killed many civilians http://t.co/mIEpT5mEHZ #nytimes called them "militants"Feb 21 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pbs.org | Report: U.S. drone strike may have killed up to a dozen civilians in Yemen | The Rundown | PBS NewsHour | PBSFeb 21 15:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436877516444545024  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436879117150343168  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436879695905583104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436879815921389568  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436880591423037440Feb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The US citizens whom #obama wants to kill (extrajudicial) for "suspicion" of "plan" not an "imminent threat" http://t.co/pUJJxPhrxXFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> antiwar.com | The American on Obama’s ‘Kill List’ Doesn’t Pose An Imminent Threat « Antiwar.com BlogFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Anonymous US officials have said all of the twelve men killed were militants" http://t.co/ECWCvkRHZP a lie of courseFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenation.com | The Men We Kill, and the Men We Don’t | The NationFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Jon Stewart Compares Obama's Drone Program With Bush's Torture Policy http://t.co/HHQ7YCswC6 http://t.co/hE4rBDF0uB http://t.co/3S8dIHEZnfFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com | Jon Stewart Compares Obama's Drone Program With Bush's Torture PolicyFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.truthdig.com | Jon Stewart: President Obama Is Like ‘Barry Bombs’ of Drone Strikes - TruthdigFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thewrap.com | Jon Stewart Calls Obama the 'Barry Bombs of Drone Strikes' - TheWrapFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The problem with the Jon Stewart satire is, #bush started the #drone #assassination policy and #obama continues to torture.Feb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Breeding public support for assassination http://t.co/ybEV56E2Hh courtesy: Hollywood http://t.co/olVL9Oz66ZFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.technologytell.com | Movie Review: "3 Days to Kill" | EntertainmentTellFeb 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dissenter.firedoglake.com | Former Top CIA Lawyer John Rizzo Hails Agency’s ‘Special Relationship’ with Hollywood Figures | The DissenterFeb 21 15:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436880873645174784  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436882696414167040  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436882976736296961   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436883222769991680  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436883393784344576Feb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: War on shoes http://t.co/A0d4fV36Ex stripping us first at the borders (then "stop and search"/frisking)Feb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cbn.com | US Officials Warn of Airline Shoe Bomb Threat - US - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.comFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Not only #cbs spreads the "war on terror" #propaganda. #cnn makes it sound like there's a shoe bomb "industry"/"tech" http://t.co/d7LCUy8qR3Feb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thelead.blogs.cnn.com | Former CIA operative: Shoe bomb technology getting better – The Lead with Jake Tapper - CNN.com BlogsFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Murdoch's Fox 'news' continues its series of articles discrediting Michael Moron http://t.co/DlE84D4zmuFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.foxnews.com | Former CIA official accused of misleading lawmakers on Benghazi | Fox NewsFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Casting for #propaganda film advocating #assassination http://t.co/0KqcQwKKac people's appeal to characters, not ideasFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.euronews.com | Hailee Steinfeld is Costner’s daughter in CIA action thriller | euronews, cinemaFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Lithuania opens probe into CIA 'black site' allegations http://t.co/RJl4npqGTT #torture #cia #europeFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.baltic-course.com | Lithuania opens probe into CIA 'black site' allegations :: The Baltic Course | Baltic States news & analyticsFeb 21 15:39
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3671152Feb 21 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 21 18:19
schestowitz__"wtf!!"Feb 21 18:19
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3670748Feb 21 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Noam Chomsky: Why...Feb 21 18:20
schestowitz__"If I would be crushing half of the world and pissing the other half, I would be very scared."Feb 21 18:20
schestowitz__http://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/02/12396/no-one-cares-about-crazy-people-walker-staffFeb 21 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prwatch.org | Walker Staff on the Mentally Ill: "No One Cares about Crazy People" | PR Watch [ http://ur1.ca/go5o3 ]Feb 21 18:21
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436928866607955968  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436929250332246017 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436929548496949248Feb 21 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Conservative" politics http://t.co/WalkLwIiahFeb 21 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #facebook is buying a lot of personal data (photos/FBInstagram and now chats+photos). The business model cannot be miscomprehended. #gbFeb 21 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Koch brothers and their wealthy allies pledged to spend $400 million on the 2012 elections" http://t.co/KzFdhKfgoEFeb 21 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.prwatch.org | Koch Network Raised Over $400 Million in 2012 | PR WatchFeb 21 18:28
schestowitz__Buttons with numbers  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436933203996459008  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436932138857152512Feb 21 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #LinuxGizmos recently installed spyware in all pages. Every page request transmits visitor data to Google, Twitter, LinkedIn, and Facebook.Feb 21 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Jolla unveils Sailfish OS 1.0, tips Angry Birds phone http://t.co/raMcF2EiH7 #gchq would hoard data off it...Feb 21 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Jolla unveils Sailfish OS 1.0, tips Angry Birds phone ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 21 18:40
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672699Feb 21 19:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #LinuxGizmos rece...Feb 21 19:06
schestowitz__"standard marketing association right? consumer behavior is weened like this!"Feb 21 19:06
schestowitz__Microsoft tried this too, around 2011, falsely claiming WP had AngryBirds and making the developers angryFeb 21 19:07
MinceRAngry DevelopersFeb 21 19:08
schestowitz__http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130209173442/tvtropesmirror/images/e/e6/Einstein_never_said.jpgFeb 21 19:14
MinceR:)Feb 21 19:16
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schestowitz__http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/17/new_password_system_lets_planet_earth_do_the_hard_work/Feb 21 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | New password system lets planet Earth do the hard work • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/go60o ]Feb 21 19:26
MinceRno info on how people will enter such a "password"Feb 21 19:28
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672927Feb 21 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 21 19:30
schestowitz__I think you can find those everywhere."77"Feb 21 19:30
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436942722180870144Feb 21 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #privacy issue reported to #LinuxGizmos -- rule of thumb is, if the button shows a number or is interactive, then it's spyware.Feb 21 19:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGenevaFeb 21 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twitter.com | JenniferPGeneva (JenniferPGeneva) on TwitterFeb 21 19:36
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/436758930531041280Feb 21 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @JasonLeopold I won at FR Sup Ct w/ asylum case,but if I wind-up "totally discredited" (or worse, heaven forfend), the "cui bono" is Lady DiFeb 21 19:37
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/436515286578388992 https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/436515387262656512Feb 21 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: LA Times: "Sen Feinstein offered a full-throated defense of govt collection of data on billions of US phone calls" http://t.co/kmyXjs3uJ6Feb 21 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.latimes.com | Sen. Dianne Feinstein defends NSA and need for intelligence gathering - latimes.comFeb 21 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: It's just unbelievable. It's like she has no ears.Feb 21 19:37
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672629Feb 21 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #facebook is buyi...Feb 21 19:48
schestowitz__"Any idea whats still missing on the list? * Maybe locations (e.g. foursquare [are people still using that?])"Feb 21 19:49
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436949949071503360  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436951833459056640Feb 21 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Observing rapid decline of human rights and intolerance t/w dissent, more US citizens seek to switch to EU passports https://t.co/lqsl2854e2Feb 21 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Seeing how journalists (Assange, Miranda/Greenwald, Shayler), lawyers (Snowden's), etc. get treated in #uk ,no wonder ppl go to FR, DE, etc.Feb 21 19:55
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436953371527118848  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436954090074300416  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436954324212920320   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955285580947456Feb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Zorin OS 8 - More like Windows 7 than Windows 7 http://t.co/4CfgU2Wol5 #vista7 #zorin #gnu #linuxFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Zorin OS 8 - More like Windows 7 than Windows 7 « Everyday Linux UserFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linaro tackles Android and Linux security http://t.co/WtQzHPmKwc #linux #android #linaroFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Linaro tackles Android and Linux security ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: GNOME 3.12 Might Come To Fedora 20, Packages Available http://t.co/qT0dx86lyW #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux #gnomeFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] GNOME 3.12 Might Come To Fedora 20, Packages AvailableFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Jolla’s Sailfish OS will be available for Android devices http://t.co/nKkDNkkVcW http://t.co/raMcF2EiH7 #sailfish #jolla #linuxFeb 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Jolla's Sailfish OS will be available for Android devices | MuktwareFeb 21 20:23
MinceR"More like Windows 7 than Windows 7" -- that doesn't sound good at allFeb 21 20:23
MinceRit's a warning if anythingFeb 21 20:23
schestowitz__yeahFeb 21 20:24
schestowitz__I thought the sameFeb 21 20:24
schestowitz__and it may imply antifeatures alsoFeb 21 20:24
MinceRindeedFeb 21 20:24
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955479022256129 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955687525298176  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955917230551040   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436956459294019584Feb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: May open source be with you http://t.co/sfC3dRdNee #opensource #freesw #freedomFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com | A story of open source learning and searching | opensource.comFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A comparison of gaming options for Linux users http://t.co/FfWT3kesij #games #gnu #linux #surveyFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | A comparison of gaming options for Linux users | MuktwareFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: With Ubuntu in the Mix, 2014 is the Year of the Open Source Phone http://t.co/0sFeyBangl #ubuntu part of a broader trendFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://ostatic.com/page_not_found )Feb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Interview with Penn Manor – PA Champions of Open Source http://t.co/aj4xiQFnIh another one behind mass migration to #gnu #linuxFeb 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Interview with Penn Manor - PA Champions of Open Source | MuktwareFeb 21 20:25
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436956746167648256  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436957355281240064Feb 21 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Broadwell Now Officially Enabled With Intel Mesa http://t.co/RhFxVX02Lb #intel #linux #mesa #broadwellFeb 21 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Broadwell Now Officially Enabled With Intel MesaFeb 21 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims http://t.co/FBD4BaPkBD #gnu #linux #windows #vista8 #microsoftFeb 21 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.omgubuntu.co.uk | 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims | OMG! Ubuntu!Feb 21 20:26
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3672992Feb 21 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johpunk@joindiaspora.com: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/photography/2014/02/venezuela_protest_photos_police_and_protesters_clash_during_demonstrations.htmlFeb 21 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.slate.com | Venezuela protest photos: Police and protesters clash during demonstrations. [ http://ur1.ca/go6dp ]Feb 21 20:39
schestowitz__"Anti-government but pro what?"Feb 21 20:39
schestowitz__CIA maybe, againFeb 21 20:39
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3672969Feb 21 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aliceinwonderland@diasp.eu reshared: ### Inside #DuckDuckGo, #Google's #Tiniest, #Fiercest #CompetitorFeb 21 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.fastcolabs.com | Inside DuckDuckGo, Google's Tiniest, Fiercest Competitor ⚙ Co.Labs ⚙ code + community [ http://ur1.ca/go6e8 ]Feb 21 20:41
schestowitz__DDG is surveillance too, it's no alternative to Google http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/2013_06_21-avoid_duck_duck_go/Feb 21 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-173.21.64.166 | Duck Duck No No [ http://ur1.ca/giurh ]Feb 21 20:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672992Feb 21 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | http://www.slate....Feb 21 20:49
schestowitz__"That's what I was thinking. It seems like it's mirroring the Ukraine situation. In a recent article by roarmag Syndicalist leaders are suggesting that leftist break from the anti-government protests and hunker down in a part of the city. Nationalism on the rise my friends."Feb 21 20:49
schestowitz__"Clarification: The roarmag article was talking about Ukraine not Venezuela."Feb 21 20:50
schestowitz__In Venezuela there has been resistance from the gov t/w the West. The plutocrats there (and CIA) hate the gov.Feb 21 20:50
schestowitz__Very different situation although in some circles I read that Ukraine protests are propped up by US.Feb 21 20:51
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436961095279202304  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436961962233458688    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436964256823926784     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436965418587422722     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436965746812657664Feb 21 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Wine 1.7.13 Lands More Task Scheduler Support http://t.co/5JSiwuMHXr #wine #windows #gnu #linuxFeb 21 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Which Side of History Will FIFA Be on in the March to End Slavery in Qatar? http://t.co/TtqGfURZaw #fifa #qatarFeb 21 20:52
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schestowitz__Not sure if it's true http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1393016019776332_tall.jpgFeb 21 21:02
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436968927055577088Feb 21 21:03
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schestowitz__Muktware is really taking off, it's becoming a really good sourceFeb 21 21:55
schestowitz__http://www.muktware.com/2013/11/announcing-muktware-bloggers-network-mbn-india/16492Feb 21 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.muktware.com | Announcing Muktware's Bloggers Network (MBN) [ http://ur1.ca/go6rk ]Feb 21 21:55
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3673437Feb 21 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "You don’t have to look too hard at the slate of new smartphones to see Android’s “bigger is better” ethos." http://m.itworld.com/open-source/406230/are-android-phones-too-bigFeb 21 22:00
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx1TNFPT01ZSKUVFeb 22 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Indiana Governor Pence gets his latest setback from members of his own party in the General Assembly. [ http://ur1.ca/go8td ]Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFChttp://www.journalgazette.net/article/20140221/LOCAL06/302219975/0/SEARCHFeb 22 03:50
DaemonFCFirst, Pence tried to get HJR-3, the Marriage Discrimination Amendment on the ballot for 2014. The General Assembly ended up deleting half of it and starting the process over, meaning half of it will end up on the ballot, maybe, in 2016, if the Supreme Court hasn't already struck down all of the Marriage Discrimination laws by then. Then, even if it passes (more than half of survey respondents said they'd vote against it, forcing an unpopular Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCamendment and Pence on the same ballot, LOL!), it will probably be short lived.Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThen the Christian Taliban added to the hilarity by suing the state to try to get the old HJR-3 on the ballot, essentially asking Indiana courts to find that the constitutional method for a constitutional amendment is unconstitutional. (Morons!)Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThen Pence tried to cut taxes for rich corporations by a billion dollars a year, without saying where he'd find the money to offset the harm that this will do to local budgets, which are already strained and barely able to functionFeb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThe General Assembly refused to pass it and instead set up a "committee to explore that and get back to you sometime next year".Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThen Pence tried to set up a voucher system so that parents could send their children to profitized religious preschools in violation of Article I Section 6 of the Indiana Constitution.Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThe General Assembly told him....NO.Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCThen, Pence tried to go on a spending spree, building more sections of the NAFTA superhighway while the rest of Indiana's roads look like landmines went off. The General Assembly came back with his requested funding cut in half.Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCPence is a joke.Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFCIt hardly seems bearable that I have to wait another two and half years to help dismiss this insufferable Teatard from office while we have to watch more of his spectacles. Feb 22 03:50
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx32S0QV84YC02WFeb 22 03:52
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 03:52
DaemonFChttp://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/02/20/gun-fetish-shoots-self/Feb 22 03:52
DaemonFCA white guy accidentally shot himself in the stomach, then claimed that he was trying to defend himself from a "black man in a hoodie".Feb 22 03:52
DaemonFCThen after police wasted their time investigating his claim, and determined that there was no black man, he changed his story.Feb 22 03:52
DaemonFCNow, the prosecutor is deciding whether to charge him with filing a false police report. Feb 22 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20140221/LOCAL06/302219975/0/SEARCH )Feb 22 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Stupid hick shoots himself, then blames an imaginary black man. [ http://ur1.ca/go8tr ]Feb 22 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictinginfo.org | Gun fetishist shoots himself and blames imaginary black man [ http://ur1.ca/go8ts ]Feb 22 03:54
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 04:16
DaemonFCI'd like to fill that pothole I ran over the other day with Governor Pence.Feb 22 04:16
DaemonFCHey! I found a use for The Robot! Feb 22 04:16
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DaemonFC Patricia says:Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCIf you are unemployed in Indiana, stop whining and move to a more vibrant state. If you live in a backwater rubbish state, unemployment is exactly what you deserve.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCPS: Isn't that bimbo Dan Quayle from Indiana? Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCYes.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCMister "Potatoe" Head, himself.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCWe have his "Vice Presidential Library" here. Unfortunately, the former do-nothing one-term VP hasn't had the time to come argue about how to spell potato with any more third graders, and lose.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFC:)Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCDan Quayle was a pioneer in a few ways. Losing an argument with a third grader is definitely a first for an American Vice President.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCDeclining to run for the Presidency because of Phlebitis is probably also a first.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCHe's probably also the first former VP who had a son that ran for a House seat and lost.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCHe's definitely the only politician that I know of that blamed "America's declining moral values" primarily on Murphy Brown.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCHe's probably the first one-term Vice President to endorse another losing Presidential ticket. Mitt Romney.Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCAnything I missed?Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFCThey spent federal money to make a bust of Dan Quayle in the Senate. It was redundant, since Quayle was already a bust. It's worth more than Dan Quayle, and it is smarter than Dan Quayle too! Feb 22 04:30
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 04:35
DaemonFCDan Quayle was once threatened by a poisonous snake.Feb 22 04:35
DaemonFCAfter three hours of agonizing boredom, the snake died. Feb 22 04:35
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DaemonFChttps://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/1926854_687813501261223_775243517_n.jpgFeb 22 04:45
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Sosumim$ is slashing prices of windows licenses by 70%Feb 22 11:10
Sosumiaccording to them, to compete with crappleFeb 22 11:11
Sosumiso windows 9 to be a toy OS? that fails at even accomplishing thatFeb 22 11:12
Sosumihttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-22/microsoft-said-to-cut-windows-price-70-to-counter-rivals.htmlFeb 22 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bloomberg.com | Microsoft Said to Cut Windows Price 70% to Counter Rivals - Bloomberg [ http://ur1.ca/goawb ]Feb 22 11:13
Sosumiyep, or not to just shove the monstrosity that vista 8 is with its disjointed GUIFeb 22 11:14
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/sabinenamba/status/437161337400344576Feb 22 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sabinenamba: @schestowitz @ramez so #larry summer was wrong! God bless!Feb 22 11:48
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437192420837851136  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437192459496734720  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437194236715597825  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437194293611347968Feb 22 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Irish Police Ombudsman Office Bugged by Irish Police? http://t.co/20CuonqmVk #police #ireland http://t.co/gEeoM9nHD2Feb 22 12:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Dublin bugging scandal: Hi-tech surveillance and intrigueFeb 22 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Flat Owl Linux Desktop http://t.co/ZKkLRxj4Nq #gnu #linux #flatowlFeb 22 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.lifehacker.com.au | The Flat Owl Linux Desktop | Lifehacker AustraliaFeb 22 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Phones that watch the users are not innovation but #surveillance http://t.co/bM2eEdYWOO #privacy will be misused because it's #GoogleFeb 22 12:00
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schestowitz__Sosumi: won't work this timeFeb 22 12:01
schestowitz__they tried it before, it's too lateFeb 22 12:01
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437195675273814016  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437195685403045888  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437195791632203776  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437195825153064960Feb 22 12:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Rugged Android tablet offers IP65 ingress protection ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 22 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #twitter #censorship http://t.co/TM90lRfAAS "unsafe" for the coyright cartel?Feb 22 12:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Cops reportedly beat, Tasered deaf man who tried to sign http://t.co/AqVFfWvZty #police #abuse #aggressionFeb 22 12:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Georgia teen holding Wii remote shot by cops at his front door: family lawyer http://t.co/awkvy9OM3X shot to death. #nintendo as a 'weapon'.Feb 22 12:03
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/lilianedwards/status/437197588316827648Feb 22 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lilianedwards: "@schestowitz: Women Outnumber Men For The First Time In Berkeley’s Intro To #ComputerScience Course http://t.co/Kbl8z3r8oj " wow! Cf UK??Feb 22 12:13
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schestowitz__http://stallman.org/archives/2013-nov-feb.html#21_February_2014_%28The_protests_in_Venezuela%29Feb 22 12:20
schestowitz__" I do not find it implausible that the US has helped organize the protests. I do not find it implausible that a provocateur (either working for the Venezuelan government or working for the US) has killed people on both sides. "Feb 22 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2013: November - February Political Notes - Richard Stallman [ http://ur1.ca/gob73 ]Feb 22 12:20
schestowitz__" In any case, it is clearly wrong to prosecute the leader of a protest because violence breaks out later. This resembles what the US did to the Haymarket martyrs. "Feb 22 12:20
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437200428254912512   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437198508186415104  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437198492717813760Feb 22 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Stallman on #venezuela protests: "I do not find it implausible that the US has helped organize the protests" http://t.co/aioDd2l6owFeb 22 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Enlightenment's Elementary, EFL 1.9 Beta 2 http://t.co/fylhoskuFP #Enlightenment #EFL #gnu #linuxFeb 22 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #BlankOn 9.0 review http://t.co/g85jQyynAc "almost a year and a half between BlankOn 8 and 9" #gnu #linuxFeb 22 12:22
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schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437200762574479360  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437200788231049216  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437200839565127680Feb 22 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Sanity now: Gnome 3.12 looking sensible - at least in beta http://t.co/FQC9cIXAqq http://t.co/CrhrI4GIOw #gnu #gnome #linuxFeb 22 12:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: RapidShare Stops Washington Lobbying Efforts and Regains Pirate Stamp http://t.co/6lyni7azpC #washington #rapidshare #copyrightFeb 22 12:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Defend John #Kiriakou : Tell Bureau of Prisons Director to End Illegal Retaliation Against Torture Whistleblower ... https://t.co/kKRmRmxMaxFeb 22 12:23
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437201369267974144Feb 22 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Defend #Kiriakou : llegal Retaliation Against Torture Whistleblower http://t.co/zQY1CBxj0F more like a goulag's reign. #cia #tortureFeb 22 12:25
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Sosumischestowitz__, repeating the same thing while expecting different resultsFeb 22 12:40
Sosumiis the very definition of insanityFeb 22 12:40
SosumiI think that it was Einstein who said thatFeb 22 12:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3673149Feb 22 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | 11 Percent of Win...Feb 22 12:46
schestowitz__"The fact they were still using XP already indicates that they would, since they can see all the newer Windows releases that have been churned out in the last few years for the gigantic heap of bullshit that they are. I still dual-boot XP so long as I can't find acceptable free software to meet some of my needs, since it's probably the least-broken OS that Microsoft ever released."Feb 22 12:46
Sosumihttp://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=461684&d=1392862088Feb 22 12:52
schestowitz__http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/item/the_snowden_files_20140221Feb 22 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truthdig.com | The Snowden Files - Book Review - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/gobdg ]Feb 22 12:54
schestowitz__Luke Harding? The exploitative one who demonises Guardian sources? Avoid.Feb 22 12:54
schestowitz__http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/apr/17/world-tomorrow-julian-assange-wikileaks Feb 22 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | The World Tomorrow: Julian Assange proves a useful idiot | Media | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gobdi ]Feb 22 12:54
schestowitz__http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/apr/10/wikileaks-david-leigh-luke-harding-reviewFeb 22 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | WikiLeaks by David Leigh and Luke Harding - review | Books | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gobdj ]Feb 22 12:54
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437209406737240064Feb 22 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Guardian's anti-Snowden book is out, a few years after the Guardian's anti-Assange book. So much for 'guardian'... #guardianFeb 22 13:01
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675086Feb 22 13:01
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schestowitz__"So? Work for yourself, no boss and done."Feb 22 13:01
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012Feb 22 20:17
DaemonFCAt least this way, Comcast and Walmart put a little bit of money into the economy. :PFeb 22 20:17
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DaemonFCAlso, I found on the Attorney General's website that a temp agency I worked for in 2003 didn't pay me for the last two hours that I technically worked for them before I got a permanent job offer.Feb 22 20:18
DaemonFCSo I got $20. :PFeb 22 20:18
DaemonFCIf you don't claim the money within 7 years after the AG posts it on that site, Indiana gets to keep it, and it goes into the state's general fund.Feb 22 20:18
DaemonFChttp://www.salon.com/2014/02/22/the_billion_dollar_whatsapp_acquisition_is_whats_wrong_with_americas_growth_partner/Feb 22 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.salon.com | Robert Reich: WhatsApp is everything wrong with the U.S. economy - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/gog3s ]Feb 22 20:20
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DaemonFCI posted this:Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCRobert Reich says that Facebook's acquisition of WhatsApp represents everything that's wrong with the American economy.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFChttp://www.salon.com/2014/02/22/the_billion_dollar_whatsapp_acquisition_is_whats_wrong_with_americas_growth_partner/Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCWhatsApp has 455 million users, and has just 55 employees. The amount of money that a company brings in no longer has anything to do with the number of employees it has to hire.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCThe 55 employees are all that WhatsApp needs to serve the 455 million customers.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCI didn't install WhatsApp to begin with, and I surely won't install it now that Facebook owns it.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCThat's a problem with proprietary software that mines your personal data. You never know who will end up "owning" it, and who they will sell it to.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCAt one point, there was even speculation that Opera Software ASA, was going to sell their web browser to Facebook. It didn't happen, although it still could in the future.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCWould you want to use a web browser that is owned by Facebook? That's the problem with proprietary software. Just because the company is benign today doesn't mean it won't do something nasty tomorrow.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCAnd just because it's nasty tomorrow doesn't mean it won't get worse next week.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCReich is focused on the lack of jobs that proprietary software makes.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCFreedom respecting software doesn't produce many jobs per end user either, but it places no restrictions on how the software can be used, and everything is done in the open. If someone does something nasty, someone else will release a corrected version without the unwanted feature.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCNobody can fork WhatsApp or Opera. Or Windows, or Mac OS, or...... You have to accept their nasty EULA or just avoid using them entirely.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFCWhich is the topic of another article.Feb 22 20:30
DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/theres-really-bad-stuff-buried-those-terms-and-conditions-youre-expected-not-readFeb 22 20:30
DaemonFCJohn McAfee notes that proprietary software usually does something malicious/nasty and that users don't even bother to read the license before they install it.Feb 22 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org | There's Really Bad Stuff Buried in Those 'Terms and Conditions' You're Expected Not to Read and Just Click Yes on | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gog8q ]Feb 22 20:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437324376883867648   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437326451248201729    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437327051511832576Feb 22 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Linux Kernel: Android? http://t.co/AbD2gTDy4c #linux #kernel #androidFeb 22 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.org | The Linux Kernel: Android? | Linux.orgFeb 22 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Canonical to show off Mir enabled #Ubuntu Touch at #MWC http://t.co/x0ParqpAQS #gnu #linuxFeb 22 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Canonical to show off Mir enabled Ubuntu Touch at MWC | MuktwareFeb 22 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NeonView 0.8.2 Released http://t.co/HkyX5xTN49 #neonview #gnu #linuxFeb 22 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxarena.com | NeonView 0.8.2 Released | TuxArenaFeb 22 20:49
schestowitz> "US News Dumps Pre-2007 Archive, Putting A Proxy Paywall Between WritersFeb 22 20:50
schestowitz> And Their Work"Feb 22 20:50
schestowitz> http://www.techdirt.com//articles/20140219/09364926282/us-news-dumps-pre-2007-archive-putting-proxy-paywall-between-writers-their-work.shtmlFeb 22 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | US News Dumps Pre-2007 Archive, Putting A Proxy Paywall Between Writers And Their Work | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/goghs ]Feb 22 20:50
schestowitz> Feb 22 20:50
schestowitz> Those are gone for good.  EBSCO and LexisNexis are expensive, they are aFeb 22 20:50
schestowitz> more serious barrier than just a simple paywall.  Your average go is noFeb 22 20:50
schestowitz> longer going to be able to find these articles, let alone browse or linkFeb 22 20:50
schestowitz> to them.Feb 22 20:50
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schestowitz> Lawrence Lessig keynote at SCALE 12.  His presentation starts at 1:01:30Feb 22 20:52
schestowitz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaG1SPvr__wFeb 22 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | UpSCALE and Lawrence Lessig Keynote - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gogih ]Feb 22 20:52
schestowitz> Feb 22 20:52
schestowitz> note: sound quality is next to uselessFeb 22 20:52
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schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437328775605657600  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437329419347451906Feb 22 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why one should write and publish for oneself http://t.co/JbbChkaMs9Feb 22 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Justice Department used this law to pursue Aaron Swartz. Now it’s open to reforming it. http://t.co/kjJRqj3gKY http://t.co/7ypzlQJKu3Feb 22 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | The Justice Department used this law to pursue Aaron Swartz. Now it’s open to reforming it.Feb 22 20:58
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msb__When technology enables machines to do what people formerly did, thus "destroying jobs", that should be a _good_ thing.  If machines can produce all the food and other things we need, then people wouldn't have to work.  It's called _socialism_ and the corporate-controlled US and other governments murder millions of people to prevent its adoption.Feb 22 21:14
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675081Feb 22 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 22 21:27
schestowitz"Now I feel almost privilleged - I can pay more! Wow!"Feb 22 21:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675534Feb 22 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Kiev spring http:...Feb 22 21:28
schestowitz"oho! sign of trouble, civil unrest alert!"Feb 22 21:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675024Feb 22 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Stallman on #vene...Feb 22 21:29
schestowitz"I think the same, and let's say that the US stops messing Venezuela. Venezuela has a lot of oil, is not under embargo like Cuba, and at this time a lot of companies are property of the State. Then why there is a lot of poverty, violence and a bankrupt economy? I would expect Venezuela doing at least as good as Mexico. Even the Evil Empire keeps buying Venezuelean oil."Feb 22 21:29
schestowitzMexico is not doing too well, either (even worse after NAFTA)Feb 22 21:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675551Feb 22 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Suffciency and se...Feb 22 21:30
schestowitz"I think the technologies already exist. What is missing is the social organisation and dissemination of knowledge necessary to implement them. The biggest problem is that this kind of farming is not in the interests of the transnational corporations, who are actively working to destroy it http://www.acbio.org.za/activist/index.php?m=u&f=dsp&petitionID=3"Feb 22 21:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.acbio.org.za | ACB - Food justice for all [ http://ur1.ca/goguj ]Feb 22 21:30
schestowitz"Interesting. However, we need the development of technologies that reduce economies of scale and increase productivity at the same time in order to improve small-scale farming."Feb 22 21:30
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3650560Feb 16 03:06
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GNOME 3.11.5 Released with Updated Apps and Many Bugfixes  http://news.softpedia.com/news/GNOME-3-11-5-Released-with-Updated-Apps-and-Many-Bugfixes-426482.shtml #gnu #linuxFeb 16 03:06
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schestowitz__"No, thanks ;) MATE or i3 solve my computing needs."Feb 16 03:06
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3649387Feb 16 03:07
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schestowitz__"The Fukushima Cat."Feb 16 03:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What if Linus Torvalds Would Have Accepted JobFeb 16 03:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Proposal of Steve Jobs? http://t.co/twCIaGJS9wFeb 16 03:51
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TechrightsBot-trwww.tuxmachines.org | What if Linus Torvalds Would Have Accepted Job Proposal of Steve Jobs? | Tux MachinesFeb 16 03:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/hDCfXbabRjFeb 16 04:29
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DaemonFChttp://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/02/16/0319238/plan-9-from-bell-labs-operating-system-now-available-under-gplv2Feb 16 04:37
TechrightsBot-trtech.slashdot.org | Plan 9 From Bell Labs Operating System Now Available Under GPLv2 - Slashdot  [ http://ur1.ca/gmw2a ]Feb 16 04:37
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/74rk/status/434987288926642176Feb 16 04:48
TechrightsBot-tr@74rk: @schestowitz @kaatje36 so how do we set this up? Like tor on the existing Internet?Feb 16 04:48
schestowitz__Maybe retool the Internet, without WWW. There used to be alternatives. HTTPS not enough.Feb 16 04:48
schestowitz__Architecturally (e.g. DNS reading who you comm to, not decentralised) Pentagon-made Internet generally good for surveillanceFeb 16 04:50
schestowitz__On top of wireless network could build meshes that bypass authorities that surveil transmission and collect "metadata"; DPIFeb 16 04:51
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434988095897759744Feb 16 04:51
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk p2p perhaps?Feb 16 04:51
schestowitz__meshes, there are already attempts at it. http://techrights.org/2013/10/18/internet-and-web-are-broken/Feb 16 04:52
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Alternatives Needed to the Existing Internet, Which Turned From Tool of Self Expression and Creativity to Surveillance and Oppression | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/fwqjg ]Feb 16 04:52
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/74rk/status/434988186847424513Feb 16 04:53
TechrightsBot-tr@74rk: @schestowitz @kaatje36 how about a large, open source VPN like network on top of the existing infrastructure?Feb 16 04:53
schestowitz__You would need to hide the VPN sources http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/20/gchq_belgacom_hack_link/Feb 16 04:54
TechrightsBot-trwww.theregister.co.uk | Latest Snowden reveal: It was GCHQ that hacked Belgian telco giant • The Register  [ http://ur1.ca/gmw5l ]Feb 16 04:54
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434988569740857344Feb 16 04:55
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @74rk @schestowitz infra and hardware are the two first problems to solveFeb 16 04:55
schestowitz__hardware does not have many back doors (yet), but the s/w on it (soft) does, including some routersFeb 16 04:55
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/74rk/status/434988744719216640Feb 16 04:56
TechrightsBot-tr@74rk: @schestowitz @kaatje36 resurrection of AX25? Could be done with wifi substitute for ham radioFeb 16 04:56
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434988899945836545Feb 16 04:57
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk but isn't that useless when the hardware we're using itself contains all sorts of backdoors?Feb 16 04:57
schestowitz__In Cisco routers the backdoors are in software (can overwrite them). In hubs I think there might be manually-inserted sting.Feb 16 04:57
schestowitz__Currently, safest way to exchange messages (endpoints unknown) is meeting in person, but in UK CCTV collects "metadata"Feb 16 04:58
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434989531884814336Feb 16 04:59
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk ans how about getting round all these EU programs leading to forced identification on social security number?Feb 16 04:59
schestowitz__These are limited in capacity, requires human labourFeb 16 04:59
schestowitz__These are lesser threats to journalist (like Risen's case); no longer do journalists meet sources in parking lots and allFeb 16 05:00
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434990252185243648Feb 16 05:00
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk and how about undetectable trojans into Intel’s Ivy BridgeFeb 16 05:00
schestowitz__Oh, Intel is an easy one. Even the company's name helps reveal its attitude towards privacy. Avoid x86.Feb 16 05:01
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schestowitz__Based on Appelbaum's talk in CCC, most hardware companies targeted are x86-centric.Feb 16 05:02
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/434990708907192320Feb 16 05:02
TechrightsBot-tr@kaatje36: @schestowitz @74rk Okay; so for now detechnologizing may be the only answer and ofcourse stealthware :-)Feb 16 05:02
schestowitz__This is why we need to fight back against "Internet browses YOU!" trendFeb 16 05:02
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schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/Peijlstaart/status/434997468477276160Feb 16 05:30
TechrightsBot-tr@Peijlstaart: @glynmoody @schestowitz > all our mail go through the US? Why-tf? I'm sure many people do not know this.Feb 16 05:30
schestowitz__I have written about this for years because Chalmers Johnson (not deceased) spoke about itFeb 16 05:30
schestowitz__*nowFeb 16 05:30
schestowitz__but to be pedantic, it doesn't get router through US, it gets collected in bases around the world, e.g. in YorkshireFeb 16 05:31
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/434998289356697600Feb 16 05:32
TechrightsBot-tr@glynmoody: @Peijlstaart @schestowitz yes, you're right; which is why Merkel's statement is importantFeb 16 05:32
schestowitz__Email and phones register IDs at endpoints and when cross-national share this data. Needs overhaul.Feb 16 05:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Peijlstaart/status/434998765796478976Feb 16 05:33
TechrightsBot-tr@Peijlstaart: @schestowitz @glynmoody > based on what law / treaty / contract? What's going on hereFeb 16 05:33
schestowitz__That's why there are many protests there. Like UK secret courts (=hiding illegal torture), needs scrutinyFeb 16 05:34
Sosumihttp://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_02_16/Merkel-proposes-to-create-European-communication-network-that-circumvents-US-6598/Feb 16 05:42
TechrightsBot-trvoiceofrussia.com | Merkel proposes to create European communication network that circumvents US - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwdy ]Feb 16 05:42
Sosumigermany and france trying to keep all the eggs in the basket for themselvesFeb 16 05:43
Sosumibut if the project includes the UKFeb 16 05:43
Sosumithe GCHQ will just pass the info the abc agencies in the USFeb 16 05:44
Sosumi*to theFeb 16 05:44
Sosumiso, why bother?Feb 16 05:45
schestowitz__citing the Microsoft booster: http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/rethinking-android-open-source/2014-02-11Feb 16 05:47
TechrightsBot-trwww.fiercecio.com | Rethinking Android as open source - FierceCIO:TechWatch  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwew ]Feb 16 05:47
schestowitz__To make Android look bad with MS talking pointsFeb 16 05:47
schestowitz__Sosumi: Germany can't be trusted eitherFeb 16 05:47
Sosumithat was why I said "all the eggs (information) in the basket for themselves"Feb 16 05:48
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/flupzor/status/435004343108902912Feb 16 06:04
TechrightsBot-tr@flupzor: @schestowitz @meneer @kaatje36 @74rk X86 isn't implemented only by Intel(tm) CPU's. Why would you avoid X86 because of Intel?Feb 16 06:04
schestowitz__No, there are other reasons. But the technical issue is, most stuff is compiled for x86. Android changes that.Feb 16 06:04
schestowitz__http://www.elandroidelibre.com/2014/02/uno-de-cada-tres-android-esta-fuera-del-control-de-google.htmlFeb 16 06:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.elandroidelibre.com | Uno de cada tres Android está fuera del control de Google  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwjg ]Feb 16 06:08
schestowitz__The astroturf grows strong, with Microsoft-funded 'academics' and MS boosters in Ars http://techrights.org/2014/02/15/ben-edelman-microsoft/Feb 16 06:09
TechrightsBot-trtechrights.org | Microsoft-Bribed Ben Edelman Behind Latest Smear Against Android/Linux | Techrights  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwjr ]Feb 16 06:09
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/T23Tm23/status/435012052730388480Feb 16 06:26
TechrightsBot-tr@T23Tm23: @schestowitz @wikileaks better than using a pedophile for being in the news, I guess so #Assange http://t.co/YuGBYt0yzVFeb 16 06:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meet These Women With Awesome Careers WorkingFeb 16 06:29
TweetTuxMachines                 On Linux http://t.co/mNzJjN3I74Feb 16 06:29
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schestowitz__"Schadenfreude ist die beste Freude"Feb 16 06:56
schestowitz__talking ponts http://www.zdnet.com/cisco-ceo-internet-of-things-poised-to-be-19-trillion-market-7000026321/#ftag=RSS14dc6a9Feb 16 07:00
TechrightsBot-trwww.zdnet.com | Cisco CEO: Internet of Things poised to be $19 trillion market | ZDNet  [ http://ur1.ca/gmwvc ]Feb 16 07:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Design Tools: High-end Design on aFeb 16 07:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Low-end Budget? http://t.co/KR7BOwAgjFFeb 16 07:08
TechrightsBot-trwww.tuxmachines.org | Linux Design Tools: High-end Design on a Low-end Budget? | Tux MachinesFeb 16 07:08
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/Kakistocrat/status/435022258206416896Feb 16 07:48
TechrightsBot-tr@Kakistocrat: @schestowitz 1: doesn't seem to be gmail specific. 2: hasn't gmail changed recently to hosting image attachments internally for this reason?Feb 16 07:48
schestowitz__That might be OKFeb 16 07:48
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651429Feb 16 07:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Data protection: Angela #Merkel proposes #Europe network http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26210053 but would Merkel then abuse it for #surveillance advantage?Feb 16 07:59
TechrightsBot-tr-> www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Data protection: Angela Merkel proposes Europe network  [ http://ur1.ca/gmx64 ]Feb 16 07:59
schestowitz__"Only trust your own solutions. That's it."Feb 16 07:59
Sosumilawrence livermore lab is where the new fusion developments have been made atFeb 16 07:59
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651253Feb 16 07:59
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #voluntaryism #anarchism #anarcho-capitalism #anti-statism #visforvoluntary #voluntary #fuckthepoliceFeb 16 07:59
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schestowitz__"Yeah! like that one."Feb 16 07:59
Sosumiand not princetonFeb 16 07:59
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651193Feb 16 08:01
TechrightsBot-tr@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: I'm glad they're _finally_ doing this somewhere.Feb 16 08:01
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schestowitz__"Awesome!"Feb 16 08:01
Sosumihttp://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140127/NEWS08/301270013/U-S-resumes-nonlethal-aid-Syrian-oppositionFeb 16 08:18
TechrightsBot-trwww.militarytimes.com | U.S. resumes nonlethal aid to Syrian opposition | Military Times | militarytimes.com  [ http://ur1.ca/gmx9q ]Feb 16 08:18
Sosumiwhich includes....Feb 16 08:19
Sosumihttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bgl5UWYCQAEY7Bj.png:largeFeb 16 08:19
Sosumiapple computers!!!!!Feb 16 08:19
SosumilawlFeb 16 08:19
Sosumiapple computers to jihadisFeb 16 08:19
Sosumiyour tax dollars at workFeb 16 08:19
Sosumiwith that faceFeb 16 08:21
SosumiI wonder if the bearded jihadi is contemplating a render of the 72 virgins expecting him on the other sideFeb 16 08:22
MinceRgeekingsFeb 16 08:44
SosumiMinceR, have you seen my last link?Feb 16 09:04
MinceRyesFeb 16 09:04
Sosumiinteresting isn't it?Feb 16 09:05
Sosumiwhen I saw it on my twitter feed I was about to split my tea on the screenFeb 16 09:05
MinceRdidn't surprise meFeb 16 09:07
MinceRsuch evil cults often go together :>Feb 16 09:07
Sosumi:)Feb 16 09:07
MinceRas for the job offer article, it ignores the fact that Linux has already gained momentum on 2000 and a lot of people were working on itFeb 16 09:10
MinceRand the article fails to credit them properlyFeb 16 09:10
MinceRs/ on / in /Feb 16 09:10
SosumiI remember back in those days some computer magazines (portuguese ones)Feb 16 09:12
Sosumiwere always bundling gnu/linux with themFeb 16 09:12
Sosumialongside with the video game demos, freeware that they used to includeFeb 16 09:13
SosumiI don't think they do that anymoreFeb 16 09:16
Sosumiand many of those magazines aren't around anymoreFeb 16 09:16
MinceRIT journalism died in hungary a long time agoFeb 16 09:17
Sosumimany in fact, were supplanted by "pink magazines"Feb 16 09:17
Sosumiwhich talk about "telenovelas" and supertardsFeb 16 09:17
MinceRthe magazines that were worth buying were taken over by publishers and staff who didn't know what they were doingFeb 16 09:17
Sosumi*superstarsFeb 16 09:17
MinceR"supertard" works for meFeb 16 09:18
Sosumi:)Feb 16 09:18
gde33I've always been amazed by how easy google deletes your account over youtube tos violations.Feb 16 09:24
Sosumia solution for thatFeb 16 09:24
MinceRdon't share videos on youtube? :>Feb 16 09:25
Sosumiis having different accounts under multiple personasFeb 16 09:25
Sosumiif one is taken downFeb 16 09:25
gde33it is more interesting than that, the tos holds that they will ban you without providing a reason.Feb 16 09:25
Sosumiyou jus hop into another oneFeb 16 09:25
gde33and such a ban includes your android phone or osFeb 16 09:25
Sosumithus losing access to even programs paid with cash?Feb 16 09:26
gde33yesFeb 16 09:26
gde33and your adsense earnings, advertisement money, search featuresFeb 16 09:26
gde33the worksFeb 16 09:26
Sosumione more reason for having other accounts for publishing stuff on youtubeFeb 16 09:26
Sosumiit sucks, but hey no one ever said the world was a fair place ;)Feb 16 09:29
Sosumiand if ppl don't pressure google, not much is going to changeFeb 16 09:29
gde33well noFeb 16 09:29
gde33they want you to use your real name for an accountFeb 16 09:29
gde33if you play by the rules the whole thing can blow up in your faceFeb 16 09:29
gde33it is arguably designed to do thatFeb 16 09:29
gde33the thing I hate most about the toss is having to fucking check every video I've posted on my website.Feb 16 09:30
gde33the accounts with many videos are the ones with the interesting videosFeb 16 09:30
gde33if you have a few thousand youtube videos on your website it quickly turns into a sort of graveyardFeb 16 09:31
gde33I'm supper bored with that taskFeb 16 09:33
gde33the same video is on the site 1000 timesFeb 16 09:33
gde33but I had to post the one that was terminated hahaFeb 16 09:34
MinceRi wish people just linked to videos on plain http with some reasonable container and codecsFeb 16 09:34
MinceRinstead of hiding them behind flash players and html5Feb 16 09:34
gde33I always include the username and a html link :)Feb 16 09:35
gde33have links   user > videoFeb 16 09:35
gde33reminds me of a funny effectFeb 16 09:35
gde33google buys a service but they always have undocumented featuresFeb 16 09:36
gde33if you search and try hard enough you can find all sorts of functionality even google doesnt know aboutFeb 16 09:36
gde33like undocumented blogger tagsFeb 16 09:36
gde33youtube rss feedsFeb 16 09:36
MinceR:)Feb 16 09:37
gde33there use to be html search results under http://google.com/ieFeb 16 09:38
TechrightsBot-trwww.google.com | Upgrade to Google ChromeFeb 16 09:38
gde33just vanilla linksFeb 16 09:39
gde33http://wayback.archive.org/web/20050828133056/http://www.google.com/ieFeb 16 09:40
TechrightsBot-trwayback.archive.org | Google Results:  [ http://ur1.ca/gmxq1 ]Feb 16 09:40
MinceRyeah, scroogle used thatFeb 16 09:41
gde33it was incredubly dumb to change from do no evil to the internet trollFeb 16 09:42
gde33in the EU the troll is just taxed to deathFeb 16 09:42
MinceRindeedFeb 16 09:42
gde33they aren't going to win anything with itFeb 16 09:43
MinceRit might have been the prerequisite for the megacorporation/two-party/government complex to let them surviveFeb 16 09:43
gde33they are not going to win anything with it either :/Feb 16 09:44
gde33they should have been happy with the information controlFeb 16 09:44
gde33that is arguably the most valuable to the megacorpFeb 16 09:45
gde33they could chose how much tax they wanted to pay in FranceFeb 16 09:47
gde33how can you spoil an opportunity like that?Feb 16 09:47
gde33LOLFeb 16 09:47
gde33when they wanted to not pay any taxes it changed into 1 billion dollarsFeb 16 09:47
gde33or wait no, 1 billion euroFeb 16 09:47
gde33they should have had some analist figure out that france is under a lot of pressure from the eu to get under the 3% deficitFeb 16 09:49
gde33Google's Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt said attempts to force technology companies to pay more tax could stymie innovation.Feb 16 09:51
gde33what does he mean attempts?Feb 16 09:51
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gde33I just want to use his services for everythingFeb 16 09:55
gde33They paid the french €5.5 million in 2011 lolFeb 16 09:59
gde33not sure what this means, sounds funny: Google and other big Internet companies keep the money in Bermuda. $1,400 billion are stuck there.Feb 16 10:03
Sosumilike I said,Feb 16 10:26
Sosumiuse fake personasFeb 16 10:26
Sosumigoogle has no way to prove that persona x is a fakeFeb 16 10:26
Sosumiunless that is, someone rats you outFeb 16 10:26
MinceRthey don't need to, they can shut down any account without providing a reasonFeb 16 10:27
MinceRisn't fog computing fun?Feb 16 10:27
Sosumibut that is the point, you then continue your activity on another accountFeb 16 10:27
Sosumiand nop fog computing isn't funFeb 16 10:28
XFaCESosumi:  then access each account in a KVMFeb 16 10:52
SosumiKVM?Feb 16 10:53
Sosumior behind a vpn or proxyFeb 16 10:53
Sosumiso google doesn't know that all the accounts are being accessed from the same ipFeb 16 10:53
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gde33I would rather pay a fine or somethingFeb 16 11:11
schestowitz__gde33: http://wayback.archive.org/web/20111102115255/http://www.google.com/toolbar/ie8/sidebar.html ?Feb 16 11:22
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gde33schestowitz__: what are we looking at?Feb 16 11:24
schestowitz__http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140127/NEWS08/301270013/U-S-resumes-nonlethal-aid-Syrian-oppositionFeb 16 11:24
TechrightsBot-trwww.militarytimes.com | U.S. resumes nonlethal aid to Syrian opposition | Military Times | militarytimes.com  [ http://ur1.ca/gmx9q ]Feb 16 11:24
schestowitz__Military booster pretends there were never weapons sentFeb 16 11:24
gde33schestowitz__: I'm not understanding :PFeb 16 11:25
schestowitz__you pointed at Web ArchiveFeb 16 11:26
schestowitz__Google.com/ieFeb 16 11:26
gde33yeah?Feb 16 11:26
schestowitz__I assume you wanted to show they recommend ChromeFeb 16 11:26
schestowitz__But the page you linked at did not have relevant contentsFeb 16 11:27
gde33no no, I wanted to show the pure html version of google searchFeb 16 11:27
schestowitz__"pure"?Feb 16 11:27
gde33it use to be awesome, it showed only link anchors with the page title without descriptionsFeb 16 11:27
schestowitz__They make a mess of HTML since ages agoFeb 16 11:27
schestowitz__like one line nonsense of non-conforming codeFeb 16 11:28
schestowitz__that only works well under parricular cincumstancesFeb 16 11:28
schestowitz__I recall chatting about this in USENET as far back as 2004 or 05Feb 16 11:28
schestowitz__and yes, you could load 100 results as title onlyFeb 16 11:28
gde33I would for example copy the results into a html editorFeb 16 11:28
schestowitz__Some years ago it stopped workingFeb 16 11:28
gde33then delete the crapFeb 16 11:29
gde33yeahFeb 16 11:29
schestowitz__and instead it redicrected to some page about IE or ChromeFeb 16 11:29
gde33indeedFeb 16 11:29
schestowitz__So you use it tooFeb 16 11:29
schestowitz__up to 100 results IIRCFeb 16 11:29
schestowitz__Not good for their ads business modelFeb 16 11:29
gde33it was specially awesome in maxthon and myie2Feb 16 11:29
gde33you could select a bunch of text in myie2 then drag it 1 cmFeb 16 11:30
gde33and it would open all the links in the text selectionFeb 16 11:30
gde33web pages didnt have a ton of js cruft at the timeFeb 16 11:30
gde33could easily open the 100 linksFeb 16 11:30
gde33mouse gestures to move to the next tab with or without closing the current oneFeb 16 11:31
gde33like a rocket ship compared to what the web is nowFeb 16 11:31
gde33afkFeb 16 11:32
iophkWeb without js crap is amazingly fast.Feb 16 11:33
msb_Do you folks all know about the youtube-dl program that can download all youtube videos, even the VEVO and other censored ones?Feb 16 11:36
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gde33msb_: I havent seen one that just plays the video without popup dialogsFeb 16 12:05
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msb_gde33: http://youtube-dl.org/  and  http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/Feb 16 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-youtube-dl.org | youtube-dlFeb 16 12:15
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msb_It doesn't play the video, but it downloads them with very low cpu usage.Feb 16 12:15
gde33right, I can see the author isnt a savi UI designerFeb 16 12:16
msb_And if the download slows down or stops, which it often does (also with Firefox/VideoDownloader), you just Ctrl-C out of it and repeat the command and it continues where it left off, but with original high speed.Feb 16 12:17
gde33I use this one http://eusing-free-youtube-downloader-converter.en.softonic.com/Feb 16 12:17
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msb_gde33: Does it run in Linux?Feb 16 12:20
gde33dont think soFeb 16 12:21
gde33I assume on linux your cache folder isnt locked?Feb 16 12:21
msb_Then what good is it?  8^)Feb 16 12:21
gde33a good tool would salvage the flash video from thereFeb 16 12:21
msb_On Linux nothing is locked (to root).Feb 16 12:22
gde33I'm still waiting for the awesome linux distroFeb 16 12:22
msb_I use OpenSuse -- very well engineered, and still offers KDE3.Feb 16 12:22
gde33I dont want to have to learn how to switch on my computer and no command lines :PFeb 16 12:23
msb_youtube-dl downloads from the website, not the cache.Feb 16 12:23
msb_Runs on python, so all platforms.Feb 16 12:23
gde33extra points for installing under windowsFeb 16 12:24
gde33typing my admin password more than 1 time per year is not acceptable.Feb 16 12:25
gde33I'm oldskool I use concreet walls and doors for security lolFeb 16 12:26
msb_The youtube-dl authors are superb command-line programmers.  That thing has every option you could want, and the default name it gives the video file is the youtube title, the youtube 11-char ID, and the format, e.g., .mp4.  What I've been naming them for years, so you can always go back to the youtube page, if it's still there.Feb 16 12:38
msb_The continuation feature is great, can cut download time from hours to a few minutes.Feb 16 12:39
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3651775Feb 16 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 16 12:43
roy_"That's quite funny, I admit."Feb 16 12:43
roy_http://blog.braegger.pw/5-ways-to-burn-out-programming/Feb 16 12:57
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roy_http://lwn.net/Articles/585363/rssFeb 16 13:04
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roy_http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/10/oracle_and_pluribus_swap_ideas_on_cisco_sdn_killer/Feb 16 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Oracle and Pluribus team up, flip the switch on Cisco SDN killer • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gmyvr ]Feb 16 13:15
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DaemonFCI managed to convince the shoe store to sell me an $80 pair of shoes for $60.Feb 16 14:17
DaemonFCOne of their employees put the wrong sign on the shelf and so the manager just told the cashier to ring me up for $60. B-) It's nice when stuff like that happens.Feb 16 14:17
Sosumiwhere were the shoes made?Feb 16 14:18
DaemonFCIndonesia apparently.Feb 16 14:18
SosumilolFeb 16 14:18
Sosumiand they still asked 60$ for them?Feb 16 14:19
Sosumiwhat a stealFeb 16 14:19
DaemonFCYeah. They don't cost much to make.Feb 16 14:19
DaemonFCI used to work in a shoe warehouse.Feb 16 14:19
DaemonFCNothing but Chinese-made shoes, day in, day out, 8-12 hours a day.Feb 16 14:20
DaemonFCI don't know what it cost to make them, but I know that some of them retailed for $100 or more.Feb 16 14:22
DaemonFCOnce a month, they'd let the employees buy anything that was overstock or returned for minor defects for $5 a pair.Feb 16 14:22
DaemonFCI made some money on the side buying those and then selling them on Craigslist.Feb 16 14:23
Sosumi:)Feb 16 14:23
DaemonFCI'd usually be able to buy at least 4-5 pair of shoes each month for $20-$25 total, and then turn around and make $200 off of them.Feb 16 14:23
qu1j0t3ALMOST LIKE A REAL BUSINESSFeb 16 14:24
Sosuminew hypeFeb 16 14:25
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: the real money is to pay 5c for the shoe then sell at $100. just sayiinFeb 16 14:25
Sosumihttp://rt.com/news/piracy-eu-download-films-211/Feb 16 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gmz7y ]Feb 16 14:25
Sosumi"Nearly 70% of Europeans download, stream films ‘without paying’ – EC study"Feb 16 14:25
Sosuminow I knows were the european commission is wasting my tax moneyFeb 16 14:26
Sosumiin some dumb studiesFeb 16 14:26
DaemonFCI doubt that each pair cost them more than $10 in total.Feb 16 14:27
DaemonFCFrom production, to shipping, to warehousing, to the store, and then to the customer.Feb 16 14:27
DaemonFCShoes are a high profit item.Feb 16 14:27
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: wait until you meet fake eyelashesFeb 16 14:27
DaemonFChttp://www.spine-health.com/forum/treatment/back-surgery-and-neck-surgery/brown-cow-anyoneFeb 16 14:38
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DaemonFChehFeb 16 14:38
DaemonFCThose do work. After I had a really bad seizure a few years ago, I also became constipated, so I mixed a tall glass of prune juice with a dose of milk of magnesia. Feb 16 14:38
qu1j0t3good to knowFeb 16 14:47
iophkhttp://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2014/02/16/why-have-you-gone-to-russia-three-times-in-two-months-heathrow-border-agent-interrogates-snowden-lawyer/Feb 16 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dissenter.firedoglake.com | ‘Why Have You Gone to Russia Three Times in Two Months?’—Heathrow Customs Agent Interrogates Snowden Lawyer | The Dissenter [ http://ur1.ca/gmzo2 ]Feb 16 15:44
iophkhttp://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140213/16525726218/widow-sues-la-sheriffs-dept-after-her-80-year-old-husband-is-killed-during-search-drugs-that-werent-actually-there.shtmlFeb 16 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | Widow Sues LA Sheriff's Dept. After Her 80-Year-Old Husband Is Killed During A Search For Drugs That Weren't Actually There | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/gmzol ]Feb 16 15:48
gde33Sosumi: no it is good, I told them to inform themselvesFeb 16 15:50
gde33Sosumi: It is important they understand that there is nothing they can do about itFeb 16 15:51
gde33at best they can persecute a few childrenFeb 16 15:51
gde33and create a black marketFeb 16 15:52
Sosumigde33, if I record a fart and stream it to the bathroomFeb 16 15:52
Sosumishould I have to pay?Feb 16 15:52
gde33you misunderstandFeb 16 15:52
DaemonFCWhen I was at the shoe store, I saw some of the brands I used to warehouse, pick, and pack.Feb 16 15:52
gde33the EU is ran by old peopleFeb 16 15:52
gde33they want to listen to the recording megacorpFeb 16 15:52
gde33do what they are told to doFeb 16 15:52
DaemonFCUnpleasant job, but it paid better than Walmart, which is why I quit Walmart. :PFeb 16 15:52
gde33but if they inform themselvesFeb 16 15:53
Sosumibecause that is what they kind of hittingFeb 16 15:53
gde33they can see that doing what the corporatards want is not going to produce resultsFeb 16 15:53
Sosumithat youy should pay to stream stuff that you probablyFeb 16 15:53
Sosumialready ownFeb 16 15:53
gde33we have the travenling sales man all firgured out, you take the portable hd to your friends house and TB's of data transfer in 20 min, on a bicycle.Feb 16 15:54
Sosumibut the terms of use deny you the streamingFeb 16 15:54
Sosumiplus with kind of movies that come out todayFeb 16 15:55
SosumiI think I should be the one being paid to watch themFeb 16 15:55
gde33lol it's all crapFeb 16 15:55
gde33the streaming stuff is about service providersFeb 16 15:56
gde33they can do something about thoseFeb 16 15:56
Sosumilike confining streaming to services like netflix?Feb 16 15:57
gde33you cant monetize itFeb 16 15:57
gde33that is the ideaFeb 16 15:57
qu1j0t3   Sosumi | plus with kind of movies that come out today            Feb 16 15:58
qu1j0t3   Sosumi | I think I should be the one being paid to watch them    Feb 16 15:58
qu1j0t3amenFeb 16 15:58
Sosumiwell you can't monetize if users break the DRM, convert the movie to h264 and stream via DLNA to say, their tvsFeb 16 15:58
SosumiI think that is the issueFeb 16 15:59
Sosumiwith the crappywood and the copywrong cartelFeb 16 15:59
gde33they dont care about that, they only aim to stop businesses from building a model based on "stealing"Feb 16 15:59
Sosumibut the issue is streamingFeb 16 16:00
gde33streaming TV programsFeb 16 16:00
Sosumieven if you were to build a business on sayFeb 16 16:00
Sosumia virtual video clubFeb 16 16:00
Sosumiyou'd still need to buy the moviesFeb 16 16:00
gde33yesFeb 16 16:01
Sosumiwith a specific streaming licenseFeb 16 16:01
gde33that must all dieFeb 16 16:01
Sosumionly for the sake of the copywrong mafiaFeb 16 16:01
gde33only people who make music or movies have an argument for a business modelFeb 16 16:02
gde33the rest must all be destroyed :DFeb 16 16:02
Sosumibut they usually create the content and rely on a publisher for distributionFeb 16 16:02
Sosumiand those are actually the problemFeb 16 16:03
Sosumieven after the death of the artist they continue monetisation of the workFeb 16 16:03
gde33the problem is that people dont play instruments and dont sing their own songsFeb 16 16:03
Sosumiinstead of releasing it to public domainFeb 16 16:03
MinceRalso, some "artists" go public with MAFIAA bullshit, spouting from their own pie-holesFeb 16 16:04
MinceRoccasionally heading MAFIAA shell organizationsFeb 16 16:04
MinceR(like artisjus in hungaristan)Feb 16 16:05
SosumisadFeb 16 16:05
gde33To be honest, what I find important is that we dig up all the lost technology for healthcare and energy production, and use existing technology to educate engineers and visionariesFeb 16 16:08
gde33the rest can all be burned for as far as I'm consideredFeb 16 16:09
gde33make it as draconian as possibleFeb 16 16:09
gde33lolFeb 16 16:09
MinceRmight be humanity will burn itselfFeb 16 16:09
gde33humanity can take a bit of burningFeb 16 16:09
Sosumithe birthing of a breakaway society...Feb 16 16:09
gde33you want that?Feb 16 16:10
MinceRmight be our only chance to preserve minds against the idiocracyFeb 16 16:10
gde33I can make that if you want, not even kidding.Feb 16 16:10
Sosumiyes, simply because it'd introduce a degree of variance in societyFeb 16 16:11
Sosumileading to different pathsFeb 16 16:11
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Sosumiyou'd end up with one dedicated to advancement of the species and the pursuit of knowledgeFeb 16 16:12
Sosumias main focusFeb 16 16:12
gde33haha only it wont look that wayFeb 16 16:12
gde33it will be a society of serious slackersFeb 16 16:13
Sosumiand another that focus only in pleasuring itselfFeb 16 16:13
Sosumiwith mindless distractionsFeb 16 16:13
gde33It would be cool to crowd fund a country with a bunch of nerdsFeb 16 16:13
qu1j0t3hmFeb 16 16:14
qu1j0t3libertarian nerds?Feb 16 16:14
MinceRtoo bad the fundies would immediately scream for a war to exterminate the nerdsFeb 16 16:14
gde33I like Bir TawilFeb 16 16:14
Sosumiwe'd need to raise enough cash to buy a greek island thenFeb 16 16:14
gde33qu1j0t3: ideology doesnt matter if you start overFeb 16 16:14
gde33the fat leaches stay behindFeb 16 16:14
qu1j0t3i, uh. ok.Feb 16 16:14
qu1j0t3yeah that'll totally workFeb 16 16:14
gde33Sosumi: something like thatFeb 16 16:15
qu1j0t3it worked in the USA, after all! a whole almost-empty continentFeb 16 16:15
qu1j0t3they checked the passenger list, no leechesFeb 16 16:15
gde33Buying a bit of the us to start your own country would be expensiveFeb 16 16:15
qu1j0t3you're missing my point. they sent some nerds over to settle the USAFeb 16 16:16
qu1j0t3terra nulliusFeb 16 16:16
gde33yes, the monopoly gamers stayed behindFeb 16 16:16
qu1j0t3yeah, they left the Pope, etc, behindFeb 16 16:16
gde33exactlyFeb 16 16:16
qu1j0t3just a bunch of puritansFeb 16 16:16
MinceRthey sent some other cults insteadFeb 16 16:16
qu1j0t3and it totally workedFeb 16 16:16
MinceRwho were all the sameFeb 16 16:16
qu1j0t3the USA is the perfect society nowFeb 16 16:16
gde33lots of people just dont careFeb 16 16:17
MinceRthey didn't like the catholics oppressing them but they were just fine with themselves oppressing othersFeb 16 16:17
qu1j0t3gde33: Antarctica might be the goFeb 16 16:17
gde33you cant do democracy with people who dont careFeb 16 16:17
MinceRonce we manage to melt all the ice? :>Feb 16 16:17
gde33Bit TawilFeb 16 16:17
qu1j0t3MinceR: won't be long :DFeb 16 16:17
gde33Bit Tawil such a hell hole it's funnyFeb 16 16:17
gde33Some sort of flexible crowd funding where you prommise to pay when it endsFeb 16 16:18
gde33let it run for 15 yearsFeb 16 16:18
gde33just as long as we dont have equalityFeb 16 16:18
gde33hitler is not ghandiFeb 16 16:18
gde33I have a grand vision for civilian ranksFeb 16 16:20
gde33ranks with special privilagesFeb 16 16:20
gde33in stead of wealthFeb 16 16:20
qu1j0t3like Star Trek?Feb 16 16:20
gde33if your rank is high enough you are not allowed to have moneyFeb 16 16:20
qu1j0t3Star Trek proves this worksFeb 16 16:20
gde33:DFeb 16 16:20
gde33we take all your money and make you a civil generalFeb 16 16:21
gde33people should admire you for thatFeb 16 16:21
qu1j0t3and they donate food?Feb 16 16:21
gde33a great honor to have you as a guestFeb 16 16:21
gde33it doesnt matter what we give them, just as long as they dont suck up all the moneyFeb 16 16:22
qu1j0t3"look at him, he's a general, so awful to have him crawling in the gutter like that, here have some fries"Feb 16 16:22
qu1j0t3yeah i'd totally volunteerFeb 16 16:22
gde33give them a huge house Feb 16 16:22
qu1j0t3how you going to pay for the house?Feb 16 16:22
qu1j0t3or is land free too?Feb 16 16:22
qu1j0t3and labour?Feb 16 16:22
qu1j0t3or you just confiscate it from non-generals?Feb 16 16:22
gde33we take all their money if they reach 500 mFeb 16 16:23
qu1j0t3hm...Feb 16 16:23
gde33then you've won the gameFeb 16 16:23
qu1j0t3what if they take their 500 m right out of your country?Feb 16 16:23
qu1j0t3this never happens int he real world of courseFeb 16 16:23
gde33it should be worth every pennyFeb 16 16:23
MinceRdoesn't sound like a good idea at allFeb 16 16:23
gde33you can still build more credentialsFeb 16 16:23
gde33in stead of more wealthFeb 16 16:24
gde33500 m is entry levelFeb 16 16:24
qu1j0t3so at 500 m , all your money is confiscated, and you get a certificate?Feb 16 16:24
qu1j0t3who runs the house?Feb 16 16:24
gde33robots ofc!Feb 16 16:24
gde33fembotsFeb 16 16:24
qu1j0t3i... cFeb 16 16:24
SosumiI think you guys are sweeting it too muchFeb 16 16:25
gde33it is not depressing enough?Feb 16 16:25
Sosumijust transplant the US as it was initially thought out by the founding fathersFeb 16 16:25
gde33you dont have to come with us, you can just stay behind in lala landFeb 16 16:25
Sosumiand run it in a Hamiltonian fashionFeb 16 16:25
Sosumimuch simpler and effectiveFeb 16 16:25
qu1j0t3just mark it clearly on a map so that i can keep the fuck awayFeb 16 16:26
qu1j0t3whatever you nerds figure outFeb 16 16:26
gde33qu1j0t3: we can give them personel for the house but they will have to earn that of courseFeb 16 16:26
MinceRslaves?Feb 16 16:26
gde33employeesFeb 16 16:26
gde33paid for by the stateFeb 16 16:26
qu1j0t3gde33: by 'house' i mean, the casino, the state that has the power to confiscate all your money and issue certificates allowing you to beg for foodFeb 16 16:27
DaemonFCLiberia's government was modeled after ours. I think that proves that simply having an American-style of government doesn't mean prosperity.Feb 16 16:27
Sosumiit depends on how you run the country afterwardsFeb 16 16:27
gde33qu1j0t3: imagining something that doens't work is easyFeb 16 16:27
qu1j0t3DaemonFC: or, just ask 90% of americansFeb 16 16:27
gde33qu1j0t3: and senselessFeb 16 16:27
qu1j0t3gde33: tell me about it!Feb 16 16:27
gde33you think you can take my grand vision and poke holes in it from the armchair Feb 16 16:28
gde33but that is exactly what we will be abandoningFeb 16 16:28
gde33we leave all those people who can imagine things going wrong behindFeb 16 16:28
qu1j0t3yesFeb 16 16:28
qu1j0t3good luck and allFeb 16 16:28
gde33we only bring people who can imagine how to make things workFeb 16 16:28
qu1j0t3or, just write a bookFeb 16 16:28
gde33just like in muricaFeb 16 16:28
qu1j0t3"NEW COUNTRY. GREAT PEOPLE WELCOME. NO LOSERS"Feb 16 16:29
gde33NO LOSERS!Feb 16 16:29
qu1j0t3how you going to buy the land?Feb 16 16:29
gde33big sign by the borderFeb 16 16:29
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qu1j0t3"ABILITY TO PLAY BASS GUITAR AN ASSET."Feb 16 16:29
MinceRbut how will you leave reality itself behind when it won't let things work? :>Feb 16 16:29
gde33Bir Tawil is not claimedFeb 16 16:29
Sosumiask Jenny to print the money?Feb 16 16:29
qu1j0t3MinceR: you are just poking holes in it from your armchairFeb 16 16:29
MinceRnopeFeb 16 16:29
qu1j0t3MinceR: you're the kind of person who won't be invited!Feb 16 16:29
MinceRthis chair has no armsFeb 16 16:29
MinceR:>Feb 16 16:29
gde33MinceR: yeah, as if doom thinkers have a patent on reality, dont make me laughFeb 16 16:29
qu1j0t3MinceR: does it go round in circles like this one?Feb 16 16:30
MinceRgde33: nobody doesFeb 16 16:30
qu1j0t3MinceR: this one has WHEELSFeb 16 16:30
gde33what if you fall on your face and break your nose?Feb 16 16:30
gde33what then?Feb 16 16:30
gde33hahaFeb 16 16:30
MinceRqu1j0t3: this one has wheels tooFeb 16 16:30
qu1j0t3gde33: well, i'm in canada, so i go to the hospital.Feb 16 16:30
MinceRlolFeb 16 16:30
qu1j0t3gde33: ymmvFeb 16 16:30
gde33what if you have a country full of lusers, how make democracy work?Feb 16 16:31
gde33nothing good will come of itFeb 16 16:31
MinceRi think if you moved into Bir Tawil and claimed it, sunddenly both Egypt and Sudan would both realize they both want it a lotFeb 16 16:31
MinceRs/undd/udd/Feb 16 16:31
gde33yeah, you are a fine doom thinkerFeb 16 16:31
gde33they will be so upset over that bit of sand Feb 16 16:32
gde33just machine gun themFeb 16 16:32
gde33easy enoughFeb 16 16:32
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_MinervaFeb 16 16:32
gde33no lusers remember?Feb 16 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Minerva Reefs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gmzxd ]Feb 16 16:32
gde33I can hear you thinking already, what if the sun doesnt set?Feb 16 16:33
qu1j0t3gde33: you shoot the losers.Feb 16 16:33
qu1j0t3gde33: history tells us this is a very popular solution.Feb 16 16:33
gde33ofc, in the face from the hipFeb 16 16:33
gde33lolFeb 16 16:33
qu1j0t3and it totally worksFeb 16 16:33
qu1j0t3look aroundFeb 16 16:33
qu1j0t3all the countries that shot their losers are thrivingFeb 16 16:33
gde33it is what got us here!Feb 16 16:33
qu1j0t3we lost the losers so many times we lost countFeb 16 16:33
qu1j0t3there can't be any left nowFeb 16 16:33
gde33I live in the Netherlands, we did a great job looting everythingFeb 16 16:33
qu1j0t3you starve them, like palestiniansFeb 16 16:33
qu1j0t3gde33: i doubt there are any losers in the netherlandsFeb 16 16:34
qu1j0t3gde33: not after wwii anywayFeb 16 16:34
gde33lots of them, arguably it is full of drones hereFeb 16 16:34
qu1j0t3how do you spot them?Feb 16 16:34
qu1j0t3do they wear a helpful yellow star or something?Feb 16 16:34
qu1j0t3maybe you can tattoo the losersFeb 16 16:35
MinceRlolFeb 16 16:35
qu1j0t3so that they don't board the plane to your nerdtopiaFeb 16 16:35
gde33they have huge social support, then you propose business models to them and they look at you like puppies, as if they are poor.Feb 16 16:35
Sosumihttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560494/Worlds-largest-solar-farm-SCORCHING-BIRDS-fly-it.htmlFeb 16 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | World's largest solar farm is SCORCHING BIRDS that fly over it | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gmzxo ]Feb 16 16:35
gde33then they cry about not being able to get a jobFeb 16 16:35
qu1j0t3yeah, they're draining the welfare stateFeb 16 16:35
gde33that is because no one is hiringFeb 16 16:35
Sosumiinvest in real alternativesFeb 16 16:35
qu1j0t3they've always been a burden on humanityFeb 16 16:35
Sosumilike fusionFeb 16 16:35
qu1j0t3on good peopleFeb 16 16:35
gde33because no one is starting anythingFeb 16 16:35
qu1j0t3gde33: you should find a way to convert the losers into food for your nation of winnersFeb 16 16:36
qu1j0t3gde33: food, soap, hair carpets and suchFeb 16 16:36
gde33we have like 5% geniuses and the rest all dronesFeb 16 16:36
qu1j0t3gde33: i know, right?Feb 16 16:36
gde33I was thinking biogasFeb 16 16:36
gde33big tankFeb 16 16:36
gde33put them all insideFeb 16 16:36
qu1j0t3yeah gasFeb 16 16:37
Sosumiinstead of bird slicing (windfarms) and now, scorching, "sillynesses"Feb 16 16:37
qu1j0t3a historically sound choiceFeb 16 16:37
gde33but I will make it easy not to be a looserFeb 16 16:37
qu1j0t3gde33: what if being a loser is fractal thoughFeb 16 16:37
qu1j0t3gde33: what if you take your 5% geniuses, and find out that 95% of them are losers, relative to the nerdtopia?Feb 16 16:37
MinceRor you could pyrolyse themFeb 16 16:38
MinceRor make biodiesel from themFeb 16 16:38
qu1j0t3extract the gold fillings firstFeb 16 16:38
qu1j0t3all that wealth they aren't entitled toFeb 16 16:38
gde33I will probably end up in the biogas production apparatus myself. That will justify all my deeds.Feb 16 16:38
gde33Make a nice speech about a good death.Feb 16 16:39
gde33tell people to take good care of themselves, and remember, no loosers!Feb 16 16:39
qu1j0t3oh, no, i'm sure you'll be hailed as the visionary you areFeb 16 16:39
qu1j0t3no lonely suicide in a bunker for youFeb 16 16:39
gde33shitFeb 16 16:39
gde33then I will spend my days facepalming, it is all the same to me.Feb 16 16:40
gde33the only real point I have is that it is easy to shut down your imagination with a doom cenario that will never happen.Feb 16 16:40
qu1j0t3what doom scenario?Feb 16 16:40
MinceRyou build a pair of teleporters and demons come pouring out of bothFeb 16 16:41
qu1j0t3there are no flaws in your planFeb 16 16:41
gde33the one imagined by the loosers ofcFeb 16 16:41
MinceRand take over your basesFeb 16 16:41
MinceR:>Feb 16 16:41
gde33no need teliport, use remote controlled fembotsFeb 16 16:41
qu1j0t3your plan is perfect. Take 1 million people. Remove all the losers. Start afresh in a new, verdant land.Feb 16 16:41
gde33streaming techFeb 16 16:41
qu1j0t3it cannot CANNOT failFeb 16 16:41
gde33the loosers dont need removing, they are terrified by the idea aloneFeb 16 16:42
qu1j0t3well yes, the intelligent onesFeb 16 16:42
gde33just the idea to do something ambitiousFeb 16 16:42
gde33that has to be the most terrifying thing in the gallaxyFeb 16 16:42
qu1j0t3so you should start advertising.Feb 16 16:42
qu1j0t3but i'm just curious where all this land isFeb 16 16:42
qu1j0t3that y'all are goin gto live onFeb 16 16:42
gde33depends on the budgetFeb 16 16:42
qu1j0t3how much hav eyou raised?Feb 16 16:42
qu1j0t3Manhattan's not as cheap as it used to beFeb 16 16:43
gde33underground is goodFeb 16 16:43
gde33just start digging under the houseFeb 16 16:43
gde33lolFeb 16 16:43
qu1j0t3bunkerFeb 16 16:44
MinceRgde33: i don't remember any fembots from DoomFeb 16 16:44
gde33freefight as the national sportsFeb 16 16:45
gde33think of bitcoin, the nerd money is going to ponzi like a naked clown on a speedboatFeb 16 16:46
gde33money backed by loosers didnt workFeb 16 16:46
gde33that was just boo hoo national debt, we can never pay for this, boo hooo *insert imaginary doom cenario*Feb 16 16:47
qu1j0t3watFeb 16 16:48
qu1j0t3gde33: i assume all the alpha-members of your society will have 'ranting on irc' as their main activity?Feb 16 16:49
qu1j0t3cuz that's not something losers do amiriteFeb 16 16:49
gde33alphalalandFeb 16 16:49
gde33how dare you call my utopia ranting :PFeb 16 16:50
gde33real time elections would be coolFeb 16 16:53
gde33if the politician starts talking dumb shit you just click the red button behind his nameFeb 16 16:54
gde333 min later he is on the streetFeb 16 16:54
gde33ohh copyright law, RIGHT, click.... *the end*Feb 16 16:54
gde33that was easy?Feb 16 16:54
gde33but first you have to get the voting diplomaFeb 16 16:55
gde33volentary taxesFeb 16 16:55
gde33brain scan the politicians before useFeb 16 16:56
gde33see if all parts of the brain are really workingFeb 16 16:57
gde33the lizard guy might not be a looser, he isnt a good leaderFeb 16 16:57
*qu1j0t3 nods, edges to the channel exitFeb 16 16:59
gde33lolFeb 16 17:01
gde33http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrVe7jJE__MFeb 16 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Russell Brand to Channel 4's Jon Snow; "Listen you, Let me Talk" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn03d ]Feb 16 17:10
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roy_https://twitter.com/davidgerard/status/435170225386840064?refsrc=emailFeb 16 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@davidgerard: Oh, @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven The H-Online UK archive appears to be up again, with old URLs working. Good!!Feb 16 17:33
roy_Thanks to work from former writers. Good job. And pressure helped, just like w/ LinuxDevicesFeb 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines@davidgerard     Oh, @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven TheFeb 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    H-Online UK archive appears to be up again,Feb 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines    with old URLs working. Good!!Feb 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn07sFeb 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     @davidgerard @schestowitz @glynmoody @lprovenFeb 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Thanks to work from former writers. Good job.Feb 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines                 And pressure helped, just like w/ LinuxDevicesFeb 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn07uFeb 16 17:34
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: '@davidgerard @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven Thanks to work from...'Feb 16 17:36
roy_https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435140523142033408  https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435140773407776768 https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435141027297366017  https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435142288755273728   https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/435142406330011648Feb 16 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz It's a shame, because the values Diaspora stuck by were excellent, for me its audience was too limited to be a useful venue.Feb 16 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz Having said that G+ is rather dire and FB is only for family, So that really leaves blog and Twitter as my main outlets.Feb 16 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz Yes I think within the tech/foss movement its fantastic, however my writing and interests are now diversifying in other areas.Feb 16 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz I know, but its hardly the panacea for mainstream interests.Where's the WH40k or Luton Town groups (in respect of my interests)Feb 16 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz because if it was, then it would attract the numbers and diverse interests of twitter. Then I'd be back there.Feb 16 17:37
*TweetTuxMachines @davidgerard retweeted @tuxmachines: '@davidgerard @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven Thanks to work from...'Feb 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines@davidgerard     @tuxmachines @schestowitz @glynmoody @lprovenFeb 16 17:49
TweetTuxMachines                 my sincere thanks to @heiseonline for restoringFeb 16 17:49
TweetTuxMachines                 the archive, particularly for Wikipedia refs!Feb 16 17:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn0a4Feb 16 17:49
SosumiI see you guys have finally found your islandFeb 16 17:57
Sosumisomewhere in the land of imagination :)Feb 16 17:58
SosumignFeb 16 17:58
MinceRo/Feb 16 17:58
qu1j0t3yeah it's like that island at the end of SolarisFeb 16 17:59
MinceRgnFeb 16 18:23
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @davidgerard: '@tuxmachines @schestowitz @glynmoody @lproven my sincere thanks to...'Feb 16 18:27
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DaemonFCI responded to an NBC story about a Satanist teen murdering 22 people.Feb 16 20:54
DaemonFC6 minutes ago · EditedFeb 16 20:54
DaemonFCWhile horrible, 22 people isn't a huge body count for an Abrahamic religion. The teen would have to murder 22 people, per day, for several thousand years, to catch up to the current body count of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. The so-called "religions of peace". And that doesn't count keeping up with the increasing body count of the Big Three over that time period. 22 per day would actually leave Satanism falling behind the others. Someone Feb 16 20:54
DaemonFCtold me a few days ago that the Christians need to pass things like HJR-3 and re-impose "sodomy laws" to protect themselves from gay people. I replied, "That's a little like saying that the 9/11 hijackers had to protect themselves from the people in the buildings.".Feb 16 20:54
qu1j0t3LOLFeb 16 21:11
qu1j0t3about rightFeb 16 21:11
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gde33We humans have great skill for repeating and reinventing our mistakes. Something like : if you dont like sodomy laws you must have something to hideFeb 17 00:46
gde33moderation doesnt seem the key, we have to develop it into something absurd enough that no one wants it anymore.Feb 17 00:53
gde33like theoretical physicsFeb 17 00:57
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3654062Feb 17 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3654062 )Feb 17 01:57
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gde33I had this idea for a garbage exchange long ago, not sure if anything like it exists, the idea is to exhange meaningless data between otherwise unrelated nodes.Feb 17 03:56
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gde33best encryption is if there is nothing in the messageFeb 17 03:57
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cousin_luigiGreetings.Feb 17 05:53
gde33hiFeb 17 05:53
gde33I was just looking at the channel just nowFeb 17 05:53
cousin_luigilikewiseFeb 17 05:53
gde33kinda strange you would say something right nowFeb 17 05:53
cousin_luigiI think I am in the wrong place. I was looking for linux gizmos.Feb 17 05:54
gde33define gizmo?Feb 17 05:54
cousin_luigilike the rPi or the sheevaplug for exampleFeb 17 05:54
gde33there are a bunch of channels for a bunch of topicsFeb 17 05:54
cousin_luigiWhat do you mean?Feb 17 05:55
gde33'#raspberrypiFeb 17 05:55
cousin_luigiI found a link to this channel on an article about linuxgizmos.Feb 17 05:55
gde33#raspberrypiFeb 17 05:55
gde33o icFeb 17 05:55
cousin_luigigde33: But I don't want a rPi, I'm looking for a generic channel.Feb 17 05:55
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gde33there is ##programming and ##hardware Feb 17 05:56
gde33and #defocusFeb 17 05:56
MinceRi think he was looking for tuxmachinesFeb 17 05:57
gde33I didn't notice he just leftFeb 17 05:59
gde33what a dickFeb 17 05:59
gde33they should be glad not to have him :PFeb 17 05:59
gde33you have all these helpful channels on irc, people log in, ask questions, if they get an answer or not they leave rightaway, often with some knee jerk remark complaining about the help.Feb 17 06:03
gde33it seems to get worse by the yearFeb 17 06:03
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Sosumihttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2560871/Crackshot-Harry-buffalo-killer-Picture-emerges-princes-call-protect-wildlife.htmlFeb 17 06:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Crackshot Harry, the buffalo killer: Picture emerges after prince's call to protect wildlife | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gn2z8 ]Feb 17 06:04
Sosumiso, besides being royal parasitesFeb 17 06:04
Sosumithey're alsoFeb 17 06:04
Sosumiroyal hypocritesFeb 17 06:04
gde33what nice people we must be for not killing themFeb 17 06:04
SosumiyepFeb 17 06:05
Sosumitomorrows programFeb 17 06:05
SosumiregicideFeb 17 06:05
gde33sarah palin aerial huntingFeb 17 06:05
gde33http://www.grizzlybay.org/LearnMore/sarah%20palin%20images/palincaribouhunt.jpgFeb 17 06:06
gde33from a helicopterFeb 17 06:06
SosumimehFeb 17 06:07
Sosumikilling just for killing is wrongFeb 17 06:07
gde33Sarah Palin approved a $400,000 state-funded propaganda campaign to promote aerial hunting.Feb 17 06:07
gde33the Center for Biological Diversity and allies sued the administration, winning a temporary ruling stopping the killing in July. But rather than continue to fight us in court, the administration formally revoked its previous decision and return the wolf to the endangered species list as a fully protected species.Feb 17 06:09
gde33but not before they shot 100Feb 17 06:09
gde33and with automatic weaponsFeb 17 06:10
gde33a sort of unlimited madnessFeb 17 06:12
gde33I was just wondering, with the genetic engineering, at what point do people loose their rights?Feb 17 06:13
gde33what percentage of human genome do you need to enjoy rights?Feb 17 06:13
gde33For example the brain of a sperm whale and that of an orca are larger, and more complex than human brains.Feb 17 06:15
gde33but they dont get any rightsFeb 17 06:15
gde33we may also be able to extend our brain with electronicsFeb 17 06:15
gde33and eventually replace it?Feb 17 06:16
gde33does that make the person intelectual property?Feb 17 06:16
gde33aka slavery?Feb 17 06:16
gde33If you need some upgrade or a substance (drug) we may already deny you this and let you die in stead. Purely on the basis of copyrights.Feb 17 06:18
iophkpatentsFeb 17 06:18
gde33intelectual propertyFeb 17 06:18
MinceRimaginary propertyFeb 17 06:19
gde33We dont have living software today but we shouldn't make laws that are unrealistic on the long term?Feb 17 06:20
gde33there is a legal loophole here that allows you to renovate part of a house, if it is less than a given percentage it isn't considered a new building.Feb 17 06:21
gde33but you may do renovations again and again.Feb 17 06:21
gde33arguably you can replace part of the human body step by step until you have nothing left but electronics?Feb 17 06:21
gde33boil the frog slow enough and no one will argue the person doesn't exist anymoreFeb 17 06:22
gde33to make it more fun, there are people functioning with less than half the brain mass. Maybe we can fork a person? :PFeb 17 06:22
gde33does the "other" guy have rights?Feb 17 06:23
gde33we also have laws for selling human body parts, asshes and remainsFeb 17 06:25
gde33lolFeb 17 06:25
gde33http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/remains.htmlFeb 17 06:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pages.ebay.com | Human remains and body parts policy [ http://ur1.ca/gn35i ]Feb 17 06:29
gde33Clean, articulated (jointed), non-Native American skulls and skeletons used for medical research.Feb 17 06:30
iophkhttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/mosaid-doubles-in-size-and-becomes-conversant-2013-09-19Feb 17 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwatch.com | MOSAID Doubles In Size and Becomes Conversant - MarketWatch [ http://ur1.ca/gn36a ]Feb 17 06:33
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iophkhttp://mediagoblin.org/Feb 17 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mediagoblin.org | MediaGoblinFeb 17 11:42
Sosumihttp://rt.com/usa/father-beaten-death-oklahoma-cops-433/Feb 17 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gn54l ]Feb 17 11:58
Sosumi"Father trying to stop family fight beaten to death by Oklahoma cops"Feb 17 11:58
Sosumigo to the USA? not even onceFeb 17 11:58
Sosumihttp://www.playerattack.com/news/2014/02/17/report-valve-anti-cheat-scans-your-dns-history/Feb 17 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.playerattack.com | Report: Valve anti-cheat scans your DNS history « Player Attack [ http://ur1.ca/gn552 ]Feb 17 12:02
Sosumiwell ofc, captain obviousFeb 17 12:03
SosumiVAC does it, EA's Origin does it and blizzard's warden does it tooFeb 17 12:03
MinceRit's good that they call attention to the fact that DNS history should be protected against such snooping :>Feb 17 12:04
Sosumiprobably with the added doubt that they also collect info of what is in the ramFeb 17 12:05
Sosumipunkbuster sure does thatFeb 17 12:05
Sosumi"Valve is looking at your browsing history right now, if a recent report is to be believed. It seems that the company's Valve Anti Cheat system (VAC) reportedly looks at all the domains you have visited, and if it finds that you've frequented hack sites, who knows what actions it will take.Feb 17 12:06
Sosumi"Feb 17 12:06
SosumiyayFeb 17 12:06
Sosumistill want steam (even in mind that you're just leasing the games for unlimited time)? or hype steam on gnu/linuxFeb 17 12:08
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/02/next-metal-gear-solid-runs-1080p-on-ps4-720p-on-xbox-one/Feb 17 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Next Metal Gear Solid runs 1080p on PS4, 720p on Xbox One | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gn567 ]Feb 17 12:09
Sosumixbone the weakest console confirmed once againFeb 17 12:09
Sosumion the otehr sideFeb 17 12:16
Sosumilithuania is meeting euro targetsFeb 17 12:16
Sosumiwhich means, it too is brokeFeb 17 12:16
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MinceRsee, that's what SteamOS and Steam Machines are for -- to isolate steam so it doesn't get to spy on you. :>Feb 17 12:19
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Sosumione of the poorest excuses I've ever heard...Feb 17 12:20
Sosumiwhat about spying being "unethical"?Feb 17 12:21
Sosumialso steam machine, steam os...Feb 17 12:22
Sosumidid you know that the both the ps3 and xbox 360sent info mack to their respective platform holdersFeb 17 12:22
Sosumiabout the kind of tv you were using and what devices you had on your network?Feb 17 12:22
MinceRi don't know what they didFeb 17 12:23
Sosumiand more recently lg tvs were sending back to lg info about what files you played on the smart tvFeb 17 12:24
MinceRindeed.Feb 17 12:24
Sosumiand I bet for sure that valve has some kind of "poison" on their steam osFeb 17 12:24
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Sosumiand one is already confirmedFeb 17 12:25
SosumivacFeb 17 12:25
iophkhttp://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/open-source-startups-dont-try-be-red-hat-236385Feb 17 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | Open source startups: Don't try to be Red Hat | Open Source Software - InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/gn58z ]Feb 17 12:25
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Sosumiand yes, lithuania is supposed to join the euro in january of next yearFeb 17 12:31
Sosumiand the trashcan pro shipping date slides once againFeb 17 12:35
Sosuminow to aprilFeb 17 12:36
Sosumiby that time nvidia has already launched their new 800 seriesFeb 17 12:36
Sosumiand so has amd probably introduced some new fire pro cards (the real ones)Feb 17 12:36
Sosumiand intel lowered the prices of the cpusFeb 17 12:37
Sosumimaking the trashcan totally uncompetitiveFeb 17 12:37
MinceRso, business as usual for appleFeb 17 12:37
Sosumiand seem like a total turd (more than it already is) when compared to a custom built or hp z workstationFeb 17 12:38
Sosuminow imagine, if you're running mission critical stuff on some of the old mac prosFeb 17 12:39
Sosumiand it breaksFeb 17 12:39
Sosumiand you still have stuff tied to osxFeb 17 12:39
Sosumiwell, better not jinx itFeb 17 12:39
Sosumi:)Feb 17 12:39
MinceRyou've already jinxed itFeb 17 12:41
MinceRby having mission critical stuff depend on apple stuffFeb 17 12:41
Sosumiit was a matter of economicsFeb 17 12:41
Sosumiback in 2009 you could buy a maxed dual xeon mac pro for cheaper than a hp z800Feb 17 12:43
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Sosumiand I didn't have much need for 100GB of ram nor SASFeb 17 12:43
Sosumiso it made sense to buy itFeb 17 12:44
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Sosumibut I did consider at the time going custom built as they no longer used ppcFeb 17 12:44
MinceRit was almost certainly lower quality, thoughFeb 17 12:45
SosuminahFeb 17 12:45
Sosumiit is okFeb 17 12:45
Sosumiboard was made by foxxcomFeb 17 12:46
Sosumiincluding the designFeb 17 12:46
Sosumiand the printing actually looks much better and cleaner than a top asus boardFeb 17 12:46
MinceRfoxconnFeb 17 12:46
Sosumithe PSU was made by deltaFeb 17 12:47
MinceRthe board isn't everything, thoughFeb 17 12:47
MinceRso, does hp use asus, then? :>Feb 17 12:47
Sosumithe default ram was made by hynixFeb 17 12:47
Sosumihp outsources to asus sometimesFeb 17 12:47
Sosumiand at least during the nehalem timeFeb 17 12:48
Sosumithey were using ram manufactured by samsungFeb 17 12:48
Sosumiwhich is also the same ram I am usingFeb 17 12:48
Sosumihp rebranded samsung sticksFeb 17 12:48
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Sosumiand they were cheaper and better than what apple was sellingFeb 17 12:50
Sosumithe default hynix ram didn't have heatspreaders, hp's hasFeb 17 12:50
Sosumibut all else was pretty mmuch the sameFeb 17 12:51
Sosumitypical default spec for 1066 ddr3 eccFeb 17 12:52
Sosumionly big nonos were the gpu offersFeb 17 12:53
Sosumihd4870 (lol) on the high endFeb 17 12:53
Sosumibut evga did come to the rescue by offering the gtx285Feb 17 12:53
Sosumiand a crappy dvd burnerFeb 17 12:54
Sosumiwhich ended up being my first victimFeb 17 12:54
Sosumias I tossed it out and put two hdds on the optical slotsFeb 17 12:54
MinceRhm, the firefox configure script has a message saying "Reticulating splines..." :)Feb 17 12:56
Sosumihttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33717226/Hack5.JPGFeb 17 12:58
Sosumithat's a westemere based hp z800Feb 17 12:59
abeNd-orgMinceR: sounds like someone played a little too much of The SimsFeb 17 12:59
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Sosumidensely populated board and without the possibility of having 4 gpus at 16xFeb 17 13:02
Sosumithe evga sr2 was a much better offerFeb 17 13:02
Sosumiconsidering the specsFeb 17 13:02
MinceRindeed :>Feb 17 13:02
MinceRor simcity 2000Feb 17 13:03
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iophkhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/2013-linuxquestions-org-members-choice-award-winners-4175493696/Feb 17 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | 2013 LinuxQuestions.org Members Choice Award Winners [ http://ur1.ca/gn5pg ]Feb 17 13:51
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DaemonFCA Republican told me that if people hate their crappy Walmart job, then they're free to quit and work somewhere else.Feb 17 14:18
DaemonFCI replied "If there was somewhere else to work, they'd already be working there, dumbass."Feb 17 14:18
DaemonFCThe only thing that such a job is good for is as a gateway to social assistance programs. Since most Walmart workers can't make more than about $200-250 a week, which hasn't paid the bills since the early 1990s, they work these bad jobs so that they can get access to food assistance and public health insurance programs.Feb 17 14:18
DaemonFCWalmart's former CEO, H. Lee Scott, who was the CEO when I worked there, said that Walmart had no intention of "competing" with Medicaid, because it was "a better deal" than their own insurance program.Feb 17 14:18
abeNd-orgwhich is what most companies will say & start dumping their people into the exchangesFeb 17 14:20
abeNd-orgmo'profitFeb 17 14:20
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sebsebsebhiFeb 17 14:29
abeNd-orggreetsFeb 17 14:29
sebsebsebgeeksFeb 17 14:30
sebsebseb:dFeb 17 14:30
abeNd-org:PFeb 17 14:34
DaemonFCshared Occupy Democrats's photo.Feb 17 14:34
DaemonFC7 minutes ago · EditedFeb 17 14:34
DaemonFCThe right-wing obsession with life only applies to unborn fetuses. We progressives are the only political persuasion that has a comprehensive pro-life program to offer.Feb 17 14:34
DaemonFCGeorge Carlin was right on when he said that once you're born, the right to lifers don't ever want to hear from you again, until you're old enough to join the military, and then you're just what they've been looking for. Maybe that's why the US is only slightly ahead of Romania for child poverty rates.Feb 17 14:34
DaemonFCAs a Humanist, I feel that I need to call attention to the horrors and ravages of American crapitalism, because it's the right thing to do. The American people never get bailed out. Only the rich criminals get bailed out.Feb 17 14:34
DaemonFCFor example, the government only spends $60 billion a year on affordable housing programs, but they spend over $100 billion on the "mortgage interest tax credit", which goes mostly to households with six or seven figure incomes, who don't need it.Feb 17 14:34
DaemonFCWhat little public housing does exist is the decaying remains of projects that were built 50 years ago. That's why the waiting lists are five years long and the Fort Wayne Rescue Mission is always filled to capacity, leaving (mostly) men to freeze to death in peoples front lawns.Feb 17 14:34
DaemonFCThere's usually over a half dozen corpses found frozen in peoples lawns in Fort Wayne every single year. This is wrong. This is messed up.Feb 17 14:34
DaemonFCThe Republicans are basically telling unemployable workers that "We no longer need you and you can go die now.".Feb 17 14:34
DaemonFCPeople who have very little are hanging on and don't want to rock the boat because they are afraid that they'll lose what they have left. That is one of the reasons why the Republicans hate Obamacare. It makes it harder for employers to beat workers over the head with the threat of being let go and losing their healthcare.Feb 17 14:35
DaemonFCI comment on a lot of these posts. :PFeb 17 14:35
gde33DaemonFC: not sure if that are the republicans, even the victims are shopping at wallmart.Feb 17 14:38
gde33slavery was ended by not buying products made by slavesFeb 17 14:39
gde33so there is no excuse for itFeb 17 14:39
gde33here people complaint that every restaurant is owned by immigrants, then they go eat there.Feb 17 14:41
gde33not some of the time, always.Feb 17 14:42
DaemonFCAs an assistant manager at Walmart, your pay cap and raises are based largely on your willingness to move.Feb 17 14:42
DaemonFCIf you aren't willing to move every 18 months then you quickly hit the pay cap and your chances to be promoted any further are basically zero. You hit a brick wall. One of the other assistants had worked at that position for over 10 years, and hadn't gotten a raise in over 5 years, because he didn't want to move every year and a half. Feb 17 14:42
gde33I dont like what happens but it seems fine to ask people to dig their own grave?Feb 17 14:44
gde33You cant help people who dont want to be helped.Feb 17 14:45
gde33But should you try?Feb 17 14:45
gde33I believe the ultimate solution for the merican government is to go to war, then just commandeer all the big corporations.Feb 17 14:46
gde33As a sort of : "haha, sucks to be you"Feb 17 14:46
gde33the stocks would be worthless, all the value would go into the dollar.Feb 17 14:48
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gde33Or anti wallmart campaining, I suppose that could work, if people are inspired enough.Feb 17 14:52
gde33Americans are still closer than people in Europe, it wouldn't be as hard as hereFeb 17 14:53
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DaemonFCThis is why I don't like to watch TV "news".Feb 17 14:53
DaemonFCWANE 15 is going to give equal footing to an anti-vaccine nutcase to argue with an actual medical doctor.Feb 17 14:53
DaemonFCWhen you're "fair and balanced" to a fault, it's going to give the appearance of legitimacy to some really stupid people. Indiana already has a problem with right-wing conspiracy theorist and other derelict parents who aren't getting their kids vaccinated.Feb 17 14:53
DaemonFCWe can't afford to lend these people some credibility.Feb 17 14:53
gde33DaemonFC: I thought you left because of what I said.Feb 17 14:53
gde33I've been getting that a lot lately on irc. :(Feb 17 14:54
DaemonFCNo. I left because my internet connection resets a lot when I am torrenting.Feb 17 14:54
DaemonFCProbably deliberate. (Comcast)Feb 17 14:54
gde33Ah, then I'm on the right track :DFeb 17 14:54
gde33hahaFeb 17 14:54
gde33[20:48:43] <gde33> the stocks would be worthless, all the value would go into the dollar.Feb 17 14:55
gde33[20:52:10] <gde33> Or anti wallmart campaining, I suppose that could work, if people are inspired enough.Feb 17 14:55
gde33[20:53:08] <gde33> Americans are still closer than people in Europe, it wouldn't be as hard as hereFeb 17 14:55
gde33not all vaccination has humanitarian motivesFeb 17 14:56
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gde33there have been many cases where civilian vaccines are all of a sudden not good enough for the militaryFeb 17 14:57
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gde33or vaccines for africa not fit for westernersFeb 17 14:57
gde33the German government went as far as to order a special vaccine for politiciansFeb 17 14:57
gde33there is some congressional record from a doctor studing cancer when the cancer epedemic startedFeb 17 14:58
gde33he wrote that he had never seen cancer in someone who wasn't vaccinatedFeb 17 14:58
DaemonFCPeople are running out of money and the collateral and credit ratings needed to enable new debt.Feb 17 14:58
gde33then there is this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_anomalyFeb 17 14:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Amish anomaly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gn622 ]Feb 17 14:58
DaemonFCSo, Walmart's US sales are starting to turn negative.Feb 17 14:59
DaemonFC*sales growthFeb 17 14:59
gde33niceFeb 17 14:59
DaemonFCThe banks don't see any need to take on liability for personal loans when they can make more money by parking money that they borrowed at 0.25% in their Fed accounts, and earn 0.75% on it risk-free.Feb 17 15:00
DaemonFCThe way to stimulate the economy would be to keep borrowing rates low, but implement a negative interest on excess reserves.Feb 17 15:00
gde33we should abolish interest ratesFeb 17 15:01
gde33just make it illegalFeb 17 15:01
DaemonFCThe FED should implement a -1% NIRP on excess reserves.Feb 17 15:03
DaemonFCWatch how fast the banks pull the money out and start lending it.Feb 17 15:03
gde33couldn't property tax do that?Feb 17 15:03
DaemonFCNo.Feb 17 15:03
DaemonFCIndiana's tax policies are highly regressive though, since you mentioned property tax.Feb 17 15:04
gde33sounds interesting to punish hoardersFeb 17 15:04
gde33they are like a plagueFeb 17 15:04
DaemonFCI think that the property tax rate should start out at 1% for the lowest valued homes and properties, and work its way up to 5% for the highest valued properties and homes.Feb 17 15:04
DaemonFCUse the extra money to cut the sales tax from 7% to 3%.Feb 17 15:05
DaemonFCThey'd never do it because it would increase the tax burden on the rich while giving the poor a lot more money to spend.Feb 17 15:05
gde33I would like to see 75% for the highest value propertiesFeb 17 15:05
gde33explode the housing bubbleFeb 17 15:06
DaemonFCIt would basically be a $500 a year tax cut for a person making $20,000 a year.Feb 17 15:06
DaemonFCThen they could spend the extra money and create more jobs in Indiana.Feb 17 15:06
gde33ideally, like in software, we would have a formula that takes real world values and calculate the rate out of thoseFeb 17 15:07
DaemonFCThen I would increase the tax on a pack of cigarettes from 99 cents per pack to $2 per pack, and use the extra money to abolish the state income tax completely.Feb 17 15:07
gde33I just bought tobaccoFeb 17 15:07
gde338 euro and 20 centsFeb 17 15:07
DaemonFCThe tax hike would bring in extra money and reduce outlays for the Medicaid program.Feb 17 15:07
gde33and a dark one, 8 euro and 80 cent, without the papersFeb 17 15:07
DaemonFCSo it would free up enough money in the budget to cut the income tax from 3.4% to 0.Feb 17 15:08
gde33it is lame in that smokers dont make much use of healthcareFeb 17 15:08
gde33they usually just dieFeb 17 15:08
DaemonFCActually, they do.Feb 17 15:08
gde33the last few years are most expensiveFeb 17 15:08
DaemonFC"Hey doc! Quit bitching at me about the cigarettes and just give me a $400 a month inhaler so I feel a bit better as I die!"Feb 17 15:09
gde33smokers dont have those yearsFeb 17 15:09
DaemonFCI know I'd make a better governor than that piece of crap that currently occupies the office.Feb 17 15:09
DaemonFCI'd have Indiana humming again in a couple of years Feb 17 15:09
DaemonFCI'd call special sessions of the Indiana General Assembly every day, even on Christmas, until they agreed to implement my policies.Feb 17 15:10
DaemonFCI think they'd come around pretty fast when you increase their work year from 90 days to 365.Feb 17 15:10
DaemonFCgde33: They wouldn't like it even with the extra pay.Feb 17 15:11
DaemonFCThe salary for a state representative or Senator is not that much.Feb 17 15:11
gde3390 days is of course rediculousFeb 17 15:11
DaemonFCMost of them only officially make about as much per year as a part time Walmart employee.Feb 17 15:12
DaemonFCMost of them do it because of the perks, from organizations like ALEC.Feb 17 15:12
DaemonFCYeah, so they'd get sick of showing up 365 days a year for about $17,000.Feb 17 15:12
gde33Russell Brand seems to have found a nice loophole.Feb 17 15:12
DaemonFCI have a feeling they'd start negotiating with me.Feb 17 15:12
gde33It is far more interesting than he is given credit for.Feb 17 15:13
gde33He is interested in representing people rather than politicsFeb 17 15:13
DaemonFCThe governor is able to do that. The constitution says that the governor can call a special session whenever he wants.Feb 17 15:13
gde33But how do you get in office?Feb 17 15:13
gde33That is the big question.Feb 17 15:14
DaemonFCThat's the hard part.Feb 17 15:14
DaemonFC:)Feb 17 15:14
gde33that is why Brands trick is so intersting to me.Feb 17 15:14
gde33He just represents peopleFeb 17 15:14
gde33then existing polticians, whoever they are, are left to deal with it.Feb 17 15:14
gde33I mesure his success by how hard he is blasted by the controlled mediaFeb 17 15:15
gde33headlines like: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2559988/Russell-Brand-finally-meets-match-Comic-loses-cool-television-anchor-Jon-Snow-tears-confused-campaign-legalise-drugs.htmlFeb 17 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Russell Brand finally meets his match: Comic loses his cool as television anchor Jon Snow tears into his 'confused' campaign to legalise drugs | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gn658 ]Feb 17 15:16
gde33http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/15/russell-brand-v-jon-snow-interview-pair-clash-on-channel-4-over-drugs-4305646/Feb 17 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-metro.co.uk | Russell Brand v Jon Snow interview: Pair clash on Channel 4 over drugs | Metro News [ http://ur1.ca/gn659 ]Feb 17 15:16
gde33they are even blasting channel 4 for putting him onFeb 17 15:16
gde33http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbiz/459883/Channel-4-blasted-for-letting-Russell-Brand-rant-about-drugsFeb 17 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.express.co.uk | Channel 4 blasted for letting Russell Brand rant about drugs | Showbiz | News | Daily Express [ http://ur1.ca/gn65e ]Feb 17 15:17
gde33and that becomes news in it selfFeb 17 15:17
gde33streisand effectFeb 17 15:17
gde33"Brand, a reformed drug addict, repeatedly interrupted the veteran presenter"Feb 17 15:18
gde33hahahaFeb 17 15:18
gde33sounds buthurtFeb 17 15:18
gde33the drug policy isn't so interesting in it selfFeb 17 15:19
gde33and they cant send the MI5 after him to intimidate him eitherFeb 17 15:20
gde33what they usually do when this happensFeb 17 15:20
DaemonFChttp://wane.com/news/national/snake-handling-ky-pastor-dies-from-snake-bite/Feb 17 15:22
DaemonFC"Did anyone else feel the world get lighter? We lost a moron! We lost a moron!" -Bill HicksFeb 17 15:22
gde33hahFeb 17 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wane.com | Snake-handling Ky. pastor dies from snake bite | WANE [ http://ur1.ca/gn661 ]Feb 17 15:22
Sosumihttp://www.gettyimages.pt/detail/fotografia-de-not%C3%ADcias/protester-takes-part-in-a-rise-up-for-the-fotografia-de-not%C3%ADcias/467619085?suri=1Feb 17 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gettyimages.pt | Protester Takes Part In A Rise Up For The… Fotografia de notícias | Getty Images Portugal | 467619085 [ http://ur1.ca/gn67k ]Feb 17 15:34
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DaemonFCI do love these new shoes.Feb 17 16:32
DaemonFCI had definitely worn my other ones out.Feb 17 16:32
DaemonFCI usually wear out the insoles before I wear out the rest of the shoe, so I just get some replacement insoles for like $10 at Walmart, and wear the shoes for another year or so.Feb 17 16:32
DaemonFCWalmart sells shoes, but they're not good shoes.Feb 17 16:33
DaemonFCYou can get a pair for $20, but they only last a month or two.Feb 17 16:33
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SosumistrangeFeb 17 17:02
SosumiI've had my shoes for 3 years nowFeb 17 17:02
SosumiI train with them at the gym and use them on regularly basisFeb 17 17:03
Sosumiand they're still okFeb 17 17:03
Sosumiwell, they have some holes here and there :)Feb 17 17:06
Sosumibut they're extremely comfortableFeb 17 17:06
Sosumiand I just don't want to carry another pair aroundFeb 17 17:07
MinceRi replace my shoes if they develop holesFeb 17 17:07
MinceRespecially the ones that are otherwise water resistant :>Feb 17 17:07
SosumihaFeb 17 17:07
SosumiI don't have that kind of problems hereFeb 17 17:08
Sosumiit surely rains, but its not coldFeb 17 17:08
Sosumior anythingFeb 17 17:08
MinceRwell, i've got to look out for that, since making proper road and sidewalk surfaces and properly draining rainwater is an unknown art in hungaryFeb 17 17:09
SosumilolFeb 17 17:09
MinceRthe rain pools on the footpaths, on the sidewalks on the roads, often in deep poolsFeb 17 17:09
MinceRoften the drains are the highest parts of the roadFeb 17 17:09
MinceReven when accidentally they manage to make the road surface slant towards the sides, there are no working drains thereFeb 17 17:10
MinceRthere are paved footpaths were the pavement curls up on the edges, forming little poolsFeb 17 17:10
Sosumisounds like someone failed at civil engineeringFeb 17 17:10
Sosumiwe do have some problemsFeb 17 17:11
Sosumibut nothing on that magnitudeFeb 17 17:11
Sosumiexcept for some isolated cases in some no man's place that I don't even knowFeb 17 17:11
Sosumiand I mean,Feb 17 17:12
MinceRi suspect the commies scared away or killed all the intellectualsFeb 17 17:12
SosumiI go walk every day through the historical parts lisbonFeb 17 17:12
MinceRso they were left with people who didn't have a clueFeb 17 17:12
MinceRand didn't careFeb 17 17:12
MinceRand it showsFeb 17 17:12
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Sosumiwhich is expect to find some clogged drain holeFeb 17 17:12
Sosumibut nopFeb 17 17:12
Sosumithe municipal works do a good job in keeping stuff workingFeb 17 17:13
Sosumicommies or not anymoreFeb 17 17:14
Sosumiwith the renewed russiaFeb 17 17:15
Sosumiand the now partition of world between the US and RussiaFeb 17 17:15
SosumiI think it is a good a time to start learning russianFeb 17 17:15
MinceRi was referring to the commies before 1990Feb 17 17:16
MinceRmost of whom are still aroundFeb 17 17:16
MinceRour two major parties are mostly commies from back thenFeb 17 17:16
SosumiwellFeb 17 17:16
MinceRour nazis are using the playbook of the most repressive commie regime hungary hadFeb 17 17:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.14 RC3 Released with UpdatedFeb 17 17:17
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MinceR(and there's so little difference i'm tempted to call them all 'communazis')Feb 17 17:17
Sosumiand our major political parties are formed by the same folks that participated in the estado novo dictatorshipFeb 17 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM Power Development Platform Emphasizes Linux ISVs | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source startups: Don't try to be Red Hat | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source alternatives for small businesses | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 4.4 review – first Release Candidate | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:18
Sosumispecially the current ruling partyFeb 17 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.14 RC3 Released with Updated Drivers and Fixes | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:18
SosumiPSDFeb 17 17:18
Sosumiof which dear leader, EU commission honcho and fascistoidFeb 17 17:19
SosumiJosé Manuel "cagão" BarrosoFeb 17 17:19
Sosumiis partFeb 17 17:19
SosumiI wanderFeb 17 17:23
Sosumiwhen does hungary join the euro?Feb 17 17:23
MinceRneverFeb 17 17:24
MinceRa better question is will hungary or the monetary union collapse firstFeb 17 17:24
Sosumiwhy not have them collapse at the same time?Feb 17 17:25
MinceRpossible but unlikelyFeb 17 17:26
Sosumithe monetary union can't collapseFeb 17 17:26
Sosumiit has already passed the point of no returnFeb 17 17:26
MinceRhow so?Feb 17 17:27
Sosumithey'll just keep prompting it up and that is itFeb 17 17:27
MinceRthey might not be able to do so foreverFeb 17 17:27
MinceRthey might not be willing to keep everyone insideFeb 17 17:27
DaemonFCShoveling out my driveway. I have to say that I could do without the nibshit across the street watching me like a buzzard.Feb 17 17:27
MinceRi could do without most of the humans infesting this planetFeb 17 17:27
Sosumiand what they are going to do?Feb 17 17:28
Sosumibomb them? like Merkel was saying to greeceFeb 17 17:28
Sosumithat she would "kick" greece out if Syriza had won the electionsFeb 17 17:28
DaemonFCMinceR: This town elects Republicans to the federal government.Feb 17 17:29
DaemonFCThis town is probably 60%+ retirees on Social Security pensions.Feb 17 17:29
DaemonFCThe Republicans they elect say that Social Security is unconstitutional and should be shut down.Feb 17 17:30
DaemonFCIf you were on Social Security and the Republican said it should be shut down, would you vote for the Republican?Feb 17 17:30
DaemonFCI will never understand that.Feb 17 17:30
MinceRSosumi: for example, germany and/or france could withdraw from it if they think it will destroy themFeb 17 17:30
DaemonFCMinceR: Thank goodness that the Senate seats are statewide elections.Feb 17 17:30
DaemonFCMy vote matters at least a small amount for the Senate races.Feb 17 17:31
Sosumibut in turn, it is france and germany that are destroying the EUFeb 17 17:31
Sosumigermany with its austerity demagogyFeb 17 17:31
DaemonFCThe Republicans drew my House district in such a way that only a Republican can win.Feb 17 17:31
Sosumiand france with its psychotrips of warFeb 17 17:31
MinceRSosumi: will it matter?Feb 17 17:31
DaemonFCSo, my vote is meaningless for that.Feb 17 17:31
Sosumiif your goal is economical and scientifically progressFeb 17 17:32
Sosumias well in having a strong block capable of maintaining a power balance in between the US and RussiaFeb 17 17:32
Sosumiit doesFeb 17 17:32
Sosuminut that is not what is happeningFeb 17 17:33
MinceRif your goal is economic and scientific progress, why elect EPP member parties to lead countries and the EU at all?Feb 17 17:33
Sosumiinstead, what you kind of have is compliant ruleFeb 17 17:33
MinceRit doesn't make any senseFeb 17 17:34
Sosumito anglo-american interestsFeb 17 17:34
MinceRi don't think these people want progressFeb 17 17:34
MinceRespecially hungariansFeb 17 17:34
MinceRhungarians seem to want to die a long and painful deathFeb 17 17:34
DaemonFCBrandon SellersFeb 17 17:34
DaemonFCMike, if being gay is a choice, when, and why did you choose to be straight? I borrowed this question, but it begs to be answered.Feb 17 17:34
DaemonFCI also commented...Feb 17 17:34
Sosumispecially of vulture capitalists and hedgefund hyenas typesFeb 17 17:34
DaemonFCI said: Feb 17 17:34
DaemonFC Well, it's easy. I just woke up one day and decided that I wanted Christian Fundamentalists and other ****ing ****s from the double digit IQ population to hate and oppress me. I said "Gee, that sounds like a great idea!". Then that's when I chose to be gay. It was just so obvious. /sarcasmFeb 17 17:34
MinceRpoland managed to outlaw abortionFeb 17 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chrome OS and Android may be top desktop LinuxFeb 17 17:35
TweetTuxMachines                 distros in 2014 http://t.co/HfeUmApVyNFeb 17 17:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn6y4Feb 17 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Chrome OS and Android may be top desktop Linux distros in 2014 | ITworldFeb 17 17:35
MinceRthey've managed to be even more backwards and fundie than the USAFeb 17 17:35
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abortion_Laws.svgFeb 17 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Abortion Laws.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gn6y7 ]Feb 17 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/rCDgyCdtb9Feb 17 17:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:35
MinceRthe human species is seriously illFeb 17 17:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CyanogenMOD developer demos Android MirroringFeb 17 17:36
TweetTuxMachines                 to Chromecast http://t.co/vi1O4mBMLkFeb 17 17:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CyanogenMOD developer demos Android Mirroring to Chromecast | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Smartphone shipment crosses 800 millionFeb 17 17:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/NXRtUNbHaOFeb 17 17:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn6yfFeb 17 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Smartphone shipment crosses 800 million | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5 enters Alpha stageFeb 17 17:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7LkKhSt7eHFeb 17 17:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn6yiFeb 17 17:36
Sosumiwhat we need is some to give a "reison d'etre" to the pplFeb 17 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5 enters Alpha stage | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:36
MinceRdoes self-destruction in the name of "God" qualify? :>Feb 17 17:37
Sosumisomething bigFeb 17 17:37
Sosumilike space colonizationFeb 17 17:37
MinceRthey don't care about space anymoreFeb 17 17:37
Sosumibig advancementsFeb 17 17:37
MinceRthe cold war kept the space race alive, now it's deadFeb 17 17:37
MinceRwhich is a good thingFeb 17 17:37
MinceRat least the infection won't spreadFeb 17 17:37
Sosumithat is the problemFeb 17 17:37
Sosumisociety at moment is on some kind of limboFeb 17 17:38
Sosumi"neither alive nor dead"Feb 17 17:38
Sosumibut waiting for deadFeb 17 17:38
Sosumi*"but awaiting for death to come"Feb 17 17:39
Sosumiand in the meantime they just pleasure themselves in mindless activitiesFeb 17 17:39
SosumiI remember Carl Sagan and othersFeb 17 17:39
Sosumisaying always mentioning "if we don't blow ourselves up" etc etcFeb 17 17:40
Sosumibut what if people in general lose the will to live?Feb 17 17:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Great News for Start of the Week: The H isFeb 17 17:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Great News for Start of the Week: The H is Back! | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     This Weekend in TechrightsFeb 17 17:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Weekend in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Upcoming Features of GNOME 3.12Feb 17 17:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Upcoming Features of GNOME 3.12 | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Improvements to Bodhi's Chromebook SupportFeb 17 17:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/knukrqNvwtFeb 17 17:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Improvements to Bodhi's Chromebook Support | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:41
Sosumiwell, I'm tiredFeb 17 17:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Site Update (Updated)  http://t.co/Fc4d7JaGQ4Feb 17 17:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gn6zsFeb 17 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Site Update (Updated) | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:41
Sosumiand tomorrows another will certainly be another intriguing dayFeb 17 17:41
Sosumign :)Feb 17 17:41
Sosumimeh, I can't even write properly anymore :PFeb 17 17:42
MinceRif only they were merely waiting for deathFeb 17 17:42
MinceRinstead they're ruining everything people have ever builtFeb 17 17:43
MinceRgnFeb 17 18:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BeagleBone Black: The Sub-$50 ARM Linux BoardFeb 17 18:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/FvsMzELKy6Feb 17 18:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BeagleBone Black: The Sub-$50 ARM Linux Board | Tux MachinesFeb 17 18:39
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 17 19:18
DaemonFCThe voters in DC should replace the mayor and strike any key when ready. Feb 17 19:18
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icecrawlerjono - when is your band gonna do 24 bit 5.1 flac instead of that lame mp3 shit mother fucker?Feb 17 20:22
icecrawleror can ubuntu not handle that?Feb 17 20:22
icecrawlerI know band camp on OSX does it no probFeb 17 20:23
jonoicecrawler, which band?Feb 17 20:23
icecrawleryour bandFeb 17 20:23
icecrawler Severed FifthFeb 17 20:24
icecrawleryou should have 5.1 24-bit flac, 16-bit flac, 16-bit alac, 16-bit opus and 192k oggFeb 17 20:25
icecrawlerfor freeFeb 17 20:25
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icecrawleror just the lossless onesFeb 17 20:26
icecrawlerdamn mirc keeps harassing me about being 55 days into my 30 day trialFeb 17 20:27
icecrawleri thought free software was open source and shitFeb 17 20:27
*icecrawler slaps jono around a bit with a large troutFeb 17 20:28
*icecrawler slaps prurigro around a bit with a large troutFeb 17 20:28
*icecrawler slaps tessier around a bit with a large troutFeb 17 20:28
icecrawlerlolFeb 17 20:28
icecrawleri wonder if the slap patent is up yet, dont see it in xchat yetFeb 17 20:29
jonoicecrawler, I will get FLAC up when I get a chanceFeb 17 20:30
icecrawleryou said that 2 years agoFeb 17 20:30
icecrawleryou lost the original didn't youFeb 17 20:31
icecrawlerall you have is the mp3Feb 17 20:31
icecrawlerand you make the cds from itFeb 17 20:31
icecrawler(shudders)Feb 17 20:31
jonoicecrawler, dude, chillFeb 17 20:31
icecrawlerLOLFeb 17 20:31
icecrawlerim just asking cause I owe DrPizza $200Feb 17 20:32
icecrawlerthere was a bet based on the time of the flacFeb 17 20:33
icecrawlermsb_ I think I owe you $150Feb 17 20:34
icecrawlerI can't remember if you actually threw down real moneyFeb 17 20:34
msb_icecrawler: Actually it was $250, but 150 is enough.Feb 17 20:35
icecrawlerthe CIA pays well?Feb 17 20:35
msb_I'm not really in the CIA, I just tell people that so they won't welsh on their bets.Feb 17 20:36
icecrawleroh ok, so DrPizza was right about you and mkultraFeb 17 20:37
msb_But I did write the software that controls the drones...Feb 17 20:37
icecrawleryou call your slaves drones?Feb 17 20:37
icecrawlercreepyFeb 17 20:37
msb_Here's me.  Look at the great new colored boxes!  With margins!  http://cosmicpenguin.comFeb 17 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 17 20:38
msb_Who is Dr Pizza?  I used to know, but I've forgotten.Feb 17 20:38
icecrawlerHe's in here, I was chatting with him the other dayFeb 17 20:39
icecrawlerSaid you were this crazy old conspiracy theoristFeb 17 20:39
icecrawlerFelt guilt from your CIA days as the killer of JFK and that you had experience to know 9/11 was done by the same agency.Feb 17 20:39
msb_Not crazy, 68, and they're facts, not theories.Feb 17 20:39
icecrawlerBeing able to use a sniper rifle on JFK doesn't really mean you know anything about the holograms used during 9/11Feb 17 20:41
icecrawlerNo plane debris = no planeFeb 17 20:41
icecrawlerDrPizza said you had some frozen thermite theoryFeb 17 20:42
msb_Check out this video -- one of the best I've ever seen.  Edward Bernays, CFR, etc, etc.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ERfxWouXsFeb 17 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Rule from the Shadows - The Psychology of Power - Part 1 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn7vh ]Feb 17 20:42
icecrawlerthe idea that if you make thermite out of dry ice its the opposite of hot - and freezes the supportFeb 17 20:42
icecrawlercausing a hologram to be able to destroy the supportFeb 17 20:43
msb_That's utter nonsense.Feb 17 20:43
icecrawlermy opinion: I don't think it was this frozen thermite, or planes or "terrorists"Feb 17 20:44
msb_The towers were destroyed by implanted explosives.  Thermite was used below ground,Feb 17 20:44
icecrawlerI think they had hologram planes MASKING alien craftFeb 17 20:44
icecrawlerthats why the NSA took everyones video footageFeb 17 20:44
icecrawlerto get the UFO's outFeb 17 20:45
msb_There are some 40 videos of the second plane hitting.  The govt did not seize them.Feb 17 20:45
icecrawlerthey were editedFeb 17 20:46
icecrawlerthe people had their memories erasedFeb 17 20:46
msb_There's no reason to think so.  Some have artefacts caused by the compression algorithm(s).Feb 17 20:47
icecrawlerhologramsFeb 17 20:47
msb_No point arguing with an anonymous person.Feb 17 20:48
icecrawlersame thing in Iraq, holograms of weapons of mass destructionFeb 17 20:48
icecrawlerthen Bush and the UK invaded and no weaponsFeb 17 20:48
icecrawlerhow do you explain that oneFeb 17 20:48
icecrawlerAliens are trying to make Bush look badFeb 17 20:48
icecrawlerso we elect anti-war leadersFeb 17 20:49
icecrawlerim not anonymousFeb 17 20:49
msb_What's your name?Feb 17 20:49
icecrawlerI'm Dan Forbes and I'm from UofTFeb 17 20:50
msb_Mark S Bilk, mark@cosmicpenguin.comFeb 17 20:50
msb_Toronto?Feb 17 20:50
icecrawleryeah mother fuckerFeb 17 20:50
icecrawlerGTAFeb 17 20:50
msb_?Feb 17 20:51
icecrawleri dont use E-mail, the feds monitor itFeb 17 20:51
icecrawleras well as a few of the alien factionsFeb 17 20:51
msb_I don't care.  I'd put everything I know on my website if I had the time.Feb 17 20:52
msb_What is GTA?Feb 17 20:52
jonoicecrawler, I will do it when I get a chance, but tbh, it is pretty low on my priority listFeb 17 20:52
jonoI have a million and one other things to doFeb 17 20:52
msb_I'm in the phone book if you want to call.Feb 17 20:53
icecrawleryou know all that is monitored by the government msb_?Feb 17 20:53
msb_I figure, but I have nothing to hide.Feb 17 20:54
msb_I get all my info from the Web anyhow, so it's already up there.Feb 17 20:54
msb_Go Toronto Animals?Feb 17 20:54
jonogotta runFeb 17 20:54
jonolatersFeb 17 20:54
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msb_see yaFeb 17 20:55
icecrawlermsb_ Greater Toronto Area mother fucker, word upFeb 17 20:55
msb_icecrawler: Are you angry at me for some reason?Feb 17 20:55
icecrawlerhttp://youtu.be/vXCXXLNaYjoFeb 17 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Grey Aliens Sinister Plans for Mankind - YouTubeFeb 17 20:56
icecrawlermsb_ noFeb 17 20:56
icecrawlerthats just how I roll hommieFeb 17 20:56
icecrawlercheck out that youtube link brotherFeb 17 20:56
icecrawlerimo the grays did 9/11, not humansFeb 17 20:57
icecrawlertheres a few times where I went to bed early and dont remember doing it and i woke up tiredFeb 17 20:58
icecrawlerabductions probablyFeb 17 20:58
icecrawler12 hours of sleep, how could I be tiredFeb 17 20:59
icecrawleryou know msb_?Feb 17 20:59
msb_Well, the question of who or what is at the top of Earth's control pyramid is very important.  I wish I knew.Feb 17 20:59
icecrawleraliens tell the CIA, NSA, US, UN, and all that shit what to doFeb 17 20:59
msb_Could be aliens.Feb 17 20:59
icecrawlerfreemasons and illuminati before gov't tooFeb 17 20:59
icecrawleraliensFeb 17 20:59
icecrawlergrays and reptiliansFeb 17 21:00
icecrawlerGrays had Hitler kill the jews because some of them had a natural immunity to AIDSFeb 17 21:00
msb_This guy Simon Parkes is good.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4Feb 17 21:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | SIMON PARKES : The Project Avalon Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/glm9u ]Feb 17 21:01
msb_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igs5LahKkIQFeb 17 21:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Alien Agenda - What THEY don't want you to know...[Simon Parkes New Horizons 2014] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn7xa ]Feb 17 21:01
icecrawlerXFaCE told me that there were alien robotsFeb 17 21:02
icecrawlerdo yo know anything about them?Feb 17 21:02
icecrawleri've never even heard of alien robotsFeb 17 21:02
msb_Some people say that they grays are biological robots.Feb 17 21:02
icecrawleroh yeah not mechanical robotsFeb 17 21:03
icecrawlerhe might have meant the same thingFeb 17 21:03
msb_Parkes thinks the Reptilians are mostly controlling Earth, but others have a say in it too.Feb 17 21:03
msb_I found those two Parkes videos very worthwhile, and they are quite recent.Feb 17 21:03
icecrawlerinterestingFeb 17 21:03
icecrawlerI'll watch the 2014 one right nowFeb 17 21:03
icecrawlerI think Bush and Harper are reptiliansFeb 17 21:04
icecrawleryou can see it in their eyesFeb 17 21:04
msb_And don't miss that Rule from the Shadows video.  It's the best I've seen on mind control, sheeple, etc.Feb 17 21:04
icecrawlerRob Ford is like that coked out Alien in First wave that the aliens killFeb 17 21:04
icecrawlerthe one addicted to saltFeb 17 21:04
msb_Supposedly there are various human-alien hybrids.Feb 17 21:05
icecrawlerRob Ford is a mistake lolFeb 17 21:05
DaemonFCA 16 ounce glass of prune juice followed by a fiber one bar.Feb 17 21:06
*DaemonFC never had to do this before.Feb 17 21:07
DaemonFCGetting older sucks.Feb 17 21:07
msb_Who is Rob Ford?Feb 17 21:07
icecrawlerDaemonFC, you've probably been probedFeb 17 21:07
msb_DaemonFC: Hi!Feb 17 21:07
DaemonFCThe mayor of Toronto.Feb 17 21:07
msb_Are you eating enough veggies?Feb 17 21:07
DaemonFCThe crazy one that smokes crack.Feb 17 21:07
DaemonFCThe Marion Barry of Canada.Feb 17 21:08
icecrawlerhttp://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/11/05/rob_ford_yes_i_have_smoked_crack_cocaine.htmlFeb 17 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestar.com | Rob Ford : 'Yes, I have smoked crack cocaine.' | Toronto Star [ http://ur1.ca/gn7y1 ]Feb 17 21:08
icecrawlerxface and prurigro love the guy thoughFeb 17 21:08
DaemonFCA 16 ounce glass of prune juice, a fiber one bar, and a colace capsule seems to do the trick.Feb 17 21:09
msb_Who is the guy in First Wave with the long curly black hair?  Slightly crazy, but very smart.Feb 17 21:09
icecrawlerCrazy EddieFeb 17 21:09
msb_Yes!Feb 17 21:09
DaemonFCI guess I'm lucky that I like prune juice anyway.Feb 17 21:09
icecrawlerDaemonFC You could just eat a box of quacker chewy granola barsFeb 17 21:10
msb_DaemonFC: Is colace a suppository?Feb 17 21:10
msb_Working from the rear end is much quicker.Feb 17 21:10
DaemonFCIt's a stool softener.Feb 17 21:10
msb_Oral laxatives can kick in a day later, uncontrollably.Feb 17 21:10
DaemonFCicecrawler: If you eat more than one fiber one bar, you're going to be in trouble. Feb 17 21:11
DaemonFCYou'll start farting like you've never farted before.Feb 17 21:11
msb_You can also stick your finger up your ass if the nail is short and the blockage is just inside.Feb 17 21:11
DaemonFCewwwFeb 17 21:11
msb_Or if you're an engineer you can work it out with a sliderule.Feb 17 21:12
DaemonFCI think I'd rather just drink the prune juice.Feb 17 21:12
DaemonFCI don't know why people say it's disgusting.Feb 17 21:12
icecrawlerDaemonFC had too busy of a nightFeb 17 21:12
XFaCEDaemonFC: gee worfFeb 17 21:12
DaemonFCTastes like raisins.Feb 17 21:12
msb_Sure, if you want to stay at home for a couple of days so you can run to the toilet.Feb 17 21:12
msb_I like the taste too.Feb 17 21:13
msb_When you wash your hand, the shit is gone.Feb 17 21:13
msb_You have pounds of it inside you anyhow.Feb 17 21:14
msb_Just consider it as fertilizer.Feb 17 21:14
msb_It's the Cycle of Life.Feb 17 21:14
msb_Anyhow, a glycerin or other suppository isn't messy and works in an hour or less.Feb 17 21:15
DaemonFCIt's disgusting and proof against intelligent design.Feb 17 21:16
msb_It's proof you're not eating enough fiber.Feb 17 21:16
DaemonFCAn intelligent designer could have come up with something better than eating and then taking a shit, then losing consciousness for 8 hours a day.Feb 17 21:16
msb_He loves us in his own way.Feb 17 21:16
msb_-- What's Up Tiger LilyFeb 17 21:17
msb_Having a mouth and an ass is much better than only having a mouth.Feb 17 21:17
icecrawlerAliens are mind controlling people into homosexualityFeb 17 21:20
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msb_Maybe we were partly designed by aliens, the Annunaki.Feb 17 21:21
msb_No, JCI religion is doing that.Feb 17 21:22
msb_And also, lots of people are normally bisexual.Feb 17 21:22
msb_Plenty of animals have been seen doing homosex.  It's natural.Feb 17 21:23
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msb_I found that I love grape tomatoes, and they can be eaten with anything.Feb 17 21:25
DaemonFCThe neighbor is probably sick of hearing my Star Trek TNG marathon. :PFeb 17 22:03
DaemonFCnothing else to doFeb 17 22:04
DaemonFCAfter tonight, we'll have broken the snow record for winter in this area.Feb 17 22:05
DaemonFC1981-82 was the previous record.Feb 17 22:05
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwNDMFeb 17 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] No License Needed For Kubuntu Derivatives [ http://ur1.ca/gn8mq ]Feb 17 23:51
DaemonFCCanonical claims you need to pay them for a license to use their packages for another distribution.Feb 17 23:52
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msb_Wow!  Another reason to stay away from Ubuntu completely.Feb 17 23:56
msb_In addition to a GUI designed for a doorstop -er- tablet, and general sloppy engineering.Feb 17 23:57
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYwNDEFeb 18 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ubuntu To Abandon Upstart, Switch To Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/gmqn8 ]Feb 18 00:06
DaemonFCIt's better that upstart is dead.Feb 18 00:06
DaemonFCsystemd doesn't have a Contributor License Agreement.Feb 18 00:06
msb_Canonical just does not have the Linux Spirit, which is SHARE EVERYTHING.Feb 18 00:09
icecrawlercanonical is probably working with the grays, they have stuff like keylogging built in and on by defaultFeb 18 00:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scoop.it | BeagleBone Black: The Sub-$50 ARM Linux Board |...Feb 18 00:41
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MinceR022733 < icecrawler> damn mirc keeps harassing me about being 55 days into my 30 day trialFeb 18 01:52
MinceR022741 < icecrawler> i thought free software was open source and shitFeb 18 01:52
MinceRmirc isn't free software, never wasFeb 18 01:52
DaemonFChttp://www.upworthy.com/that-iphone-in-your-pocket-youd-be-surprised-where-the-money-goes-when-you-buy-it?c=cd1Feb 18 01:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.upworthy.com | That iPhone In Your Pocket? You’d Be Surprised Where The Money Goes When You Buy It. [ http://ur1.ca/gn92s ]Feb 18 01:56
DaemonFCicecrawler: I believe that HexChat works on Windows.Feb 18 01:59
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MinceRso does kvircFeb 18 02:07
MinceRand i've read about windows versions of irssiFeb 18 02:08
MinceRthen again, getting rid of windows is even better :>Feb 18 02:08
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iophkhttp://www.ibtimes.co.uk/edward-snowdens-lawyer-claims-harassment-heathrow-airport-border-police-1436781Feb 18 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Edward Snowden's Lawyer Claims Harassment from Heathrow Airport Border Police [ http://ur1.ca/gn9d7 ]Feb 18 02:43
roy_gde33: pretty muchFeb 18 02:47
roy_but then it's low encrypt to begin withFeb 18 02:47
roy_re [08:57] <gde33> best encryption is if there is nothing in the messageFeb 18 02:47
roy_Took me 4 hours last night investigating why twitter no longer syndicated, leading to the most annoying issue to debug, trailing space in some unnmamed php source fileFeb 18 02:48
roy_Found in the least expected placeFeb 18 02:48
roy_[01:55] <DaemonFC> While horrible, 22 people isn't a huge body count for an Abrahamic religion. The teen would have to murder 22 people, per day, for several thousand years, to catch up to the current body count of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. The so-called "religions of peace". And that doesn't count keeping up with the increasing body count of the Big Three over that time period. 22 per day would actually leave Satanism falling behind Feb 18 02:49
roy_the others. Someone Feb 18 02:49
roy_Shock value=10Feb 18 02:49
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MinceR:>Feb 18 02:53
roy_0Feb 18 03:18
roy_[01:41] <icecrawler> Being able to use a sniper rifle on JFK doesn't really mean you know anything about the holograms used during 9/11Feb 18 03:18
roy_Oh, I see we had a troll here last nightFeb 18 03:18
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roy_https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3655806Feb 18 03:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 18 03:29
roy_Well done. I wonder where this was shot?"77"Feb 18 03:29
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Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/security/2014/02/dear-asus-router-user-youve-been-pwned-thanks-to-easily-exploited-flaw/Feb 18 06:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Dear Asus router user: You’ve been pwned, thanks to easily exploited flaw | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gnatq ]Feb 18 06:24
Sosumiand now asus routersFeb 18 06:24
SosumiI actually wander how airport and time capsule routers are doingFeb 18 06:25
Sosumigiven apple's total disdain for actual securityFeb 18 06:25
Sosumiand uber slowness in getting things fixedFeb 18 06:25
SosumiDrPizza, just being there stalking is kind of lameFeb 18 06:32
Sosumiat least say a joke from time to timeFeb 18 06:32
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gde33roy_: maybe previously shared garbage could be used if a real connection is established later?Feb 18 06:48
icecrawlerDrPizza doesn't talk here because everything is monitored by the GCHQFeb 18 07:46
msb_Who is DrPizza?  I have a vague recollection that he's some bad guy from COLA.Feb 18 07:48
icecrawlerHe does the conspiracy theory section on Ars TechnicaFeb 18 07:49
icecrawlerhes a libertarian conspiracy theorist though, right wing free market guyFeb 18 07:49
icecrawlerkind of like Alex JonesFeb 18 07:49
msb_He wouldn't be an anti-Linux guy on comp.os.linux.advocacy then.  None of them are very bright.Feb 18 07:50
icecrawlerhe is anti linuxFeb 18 07:50
icecrawlerhe thinks his powermac g4 is too old to be spied onFeb 18 07:50
icecrawlerthats what he usesFeb 18 07:50
icecrawler"if I can't even find the latest firefox for OSX 10.4.8 what chances are the government is spying on me" -DrPizzaFeb 18 07:51
gde33sounds like a typical tech blogger lolFeb 18 07:51
msb_Funny!Feb 18 07:52
MinceRconsidering that he props up msft and mpeg la, he can't be much of a "libertarian" :>Feb 18 07:52
msb_gde33: I'd think most are smarter than that.Feb 18 07:52
gde33MinceR: people dont really remember what all the big words meanFeb 18 07:52
MinceR:>Feb 18 07:52
msb_"Libertarians" who think that corporations are people will come to some very bad conclusions.Feb 18 07:53
icecrawlerwell he was trying to convince me the other day UEFI secure boot could help you from a government evil maid attackFeb 18 07:54
gde33msb_: journalism is all about attention, not about being right, it helpts being wrong actually. :PFeb 18 07:54
gde33I will never forget this article "The linuxification of windows has begun"Feb 18 07:54
MinceRicecrawler: it couldn't, thoughFeb 18 07:54
icecrawlerMinceR: his arguement was that if you used your own key for secure boot you could lock out unauthorized dvd and usb boot disksFeb 18 07:55
icecrawlerlike hirens boot cdFeb 18 07:55
MinceRand then they could replace your keyFeb 18 07:55
icecrawlerwhich takes passwords off your machineFeb 18 07:55
MinceRor they could break into your osFeb 18 07:55
icecrawlerreplace your key and your OS wouldnt bootFeb 18 07:55
icecrawlerthe OS looks for itFeb 18 07:55
MinceRthe os they'll put in will, thoughFeb 18 07:55
MinceRor hypervisorFeb 18 07:55
MinceRand then boots your os, or just looks like it didFeb 18 07:56
msb_So a "maid attack" is your house-maid putting a disk in your computer?Feb 18 07:56
icecrawleryes msb_Feb 18 07:56
MinceRand of course if all else fails, they could replace your computer with an identical looking copy, up to the point where it asks for your disk encryption passwordFeb 18 07:56
gde33lolFeb 18 07:56
icecrawlermincer thinks a maid knows how to install vmwareFeb 18 07:56
icecrawlershes a woman, she can barely figure out that USB isn't UBSFeb 18 07:56
MinceRafaik "evil maid attacks" aren't thought of as untrained maids trying to exploit your systemFeb 18 07:56
MinceRphysical access is the pointFeb 18 07:57
icecrawleractually they areFeb 18 07:57
icecrawlerthey have sex with you, and when you flush the condom down the toilet they are putting usb disks in your computerFeb 18 07:57
MinceRthat's it?Feb 18 07:57
icecrawlerand pressing buttonsFeb 18 07:58
gde33hahaFeb 18 07:58
MinceRin that case, any computer with no usb ports would be omfg-secureFeb 18 07:58
icecrawlerthey only have like 30 secondsFeb 18 07:58
MinceRi happen to have such omfg-secure computers in the cupboard and in the basementFeb 18 07:58
gde33MinceR: a fake usb port to detect maid attacksFeb 18 07:58
icecrawlerjust replacing the key would take like 10 minutesFeb 18 07:58
msb_Rosa Klebb in "From Russia with Love".Feb 18 07:58
MinceRreplacing the computer could happen more quickly :>Feb 18 07:58
icecrawlerbut this was DrPizza's arguementFeb 18 07:59
icecrawlerin the endFeb 18 07:59
icecrawlerI was just like "well how does it stand up to a wrench exploit?"Feb 18 07:59
MinceR:>Feb 18 07:59
icecrawler"Wrench Exploit?" says DrPizzaFeb 18 07:59
icecrawlerWhere you beat their passwords out of them with a wrenchFeb 18 08:00
MinceRnah, that's Rubber-Hose CryptanalysisFeb 18 08:00
SosumilolFeb 18 08:00
MinceRi thought the wrench was applied to the computerFeb 18 08:00
icecrawlerwrench > rubber hoseFeb 18 08:00
gde33so the system needs hooking into the nervous systemFeb 18 08:00
icecrawlernot talking chinese wrenchFeb 18 08:00
gde33then it can lock it self in maid sex modeFeb 18 08:00
icecrawlermurican, so its metalFeb 18 08:00
MinceR:DFeb 18 08:01
MinceRi suspect you can cause more pain with the same amount of damage with a rubber hoseFeb 18 08:01
msb_Ick!  That Satanism is contagious.Feb 18 08:01
gde33we should set up a course to train security experts pain treasholdFeb 18 08:01
gde33imagine the lulzFeb 18 08:02
gde33water boarding 101Feb 18 08:02
msb_forced Windows usageFeb 18 08:02
msb_DRM everywhereFeb 18 08:03
MinceRthey're doing that alreadyFeb 18 08:03
msb_yupFeb 18 08:03
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msb_A couple years ago a DVD wouldn't play on my computer (turned out to be a bad drive), and when I took it to a friend's Windows machine, it wouldn't play it until I swore to it that I'd bought it legally.Feb 18 08:05
gde33so we really need to go to space for data securityFeb 18 08:05
msb_For life security, in case they blow up the Earth.Feb 18 08:05
gde33I think you are overreacting :PFeb 18 08:08
msb_gde33: Regarding being wrong to increase the audience in journalism:  We live in a world where most people are deluded about what's actually going on.  So one can appeal to them by repeating the lies they believe.  But the job of a real journalist is to wake people up to the truth.Feb 18 08:08
MinceRreal journalists are very rareFeb 18 08:09
msb_We can all strive to be one.Feb 18 08:09
gde33you mean join the terrorists?Feb 18 08:09
MinceRgde33: we already are the turrists, didn't you notice? :>Feb 18 08:09
icecrawleryou can learn to waterboard on the piratebayFeb 18 08:10
msb_Some government agencies have declared 9-11 researchers and upholders of the Constitution to be "terrorists".Feb 18 08:11
MinceRand people who pay in cashFeb 18 08:12
MinceRand people who protect their privacy onlineFeb 18 08:12
msb_But we now know that the US govt is supporting the "Al-qaeda" terrorists attacking Syria.Feb 18 08:12
gde33the truth was that his wife killed JFKFeb 18 08:13
msb_That makes Obama the Chief Terrorist.Feb 18 08:13
gde33from point blank range, by putting a gun to his headFeb 18 08:13
msb_Not in the Zapruder film.Feb 18 08:14
gde33what I mean, I dont think one would get a lot of readers with the turthFeb 18 08:14
gde33msb_: sure, just lookFeb 18 08:14
gde33she even picks up the shellFeb 18 08:14
msb_She tries to pick up pieces of brain or bone.Feb 18 08:15
gde33first they give him a sandwich with poison, to make her job easierFeb 18 08:15
gde33msb_: would you?Feb 18 08:15
msb_gde33: The JFK killing has been thoroughly researched.Feb 18 08:16
msb_Would I what?Feb 18 08:16
gde33pick up the brainFeb 18 08:16
gde33does it make any sense at all to do that?Feb 18 08:16
msb_Wouldn't do much good.Feb 18 08:16
msb_He was knocked down before she reacted.Feb 18 08:17
msb_And one may not think clearly in the few seconds after one's husband/President is shot in the head.Feb 18 08:18
msb_There's no point in being a journalist unless you tell the truth.Feb 18 08:19
msb_BTW, check out the new colored areas on my homepage:  http://cosmicpenguin.comFeb 18 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 18 08:20
msb_Note the fine margins.  Took some work.  Feb 18 08:20
msb_Only tag I could find that does background colors is <td>.Feb 18 08:21
gde33but it is to obvious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCNe3t1U8Es#t=45sFeb 18 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | JFK was murdered by his wife - Jacqueline The Jesuit Assassin - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gnbol ]Feb 18 08:23
gde33msb_: I think a bit to much white spaceFeb 18 08:24
iophkhttp://www.datamation.com/applications/life-without-a-windows-desktop-1.htmlFeb 18 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | Life without a Windows Desktop - Datamation [ http://ur1.ca/gnbot ]Feb 18 08:24
msb_gde33: I'll be moving a lot more stuff from the white area to the colored ones.  I've just started.Feb 18 08:25
gde33I mean on the right of the pageFeb 18 08:26
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gde33msb_: but good readability with the bg colorsFeb 18 08:28
msb_gde33: I've kept it below 800 pix wide so it fits small screens without horizontal scrolling.Feb 18 08:29
gde33gave me an intersting idea to float content boxes to the leftFeb 18 08:29
msb_Thanks!  I made the bg colors pale so the text can be read easily.Feb 18 08:30
gde33try making the Result area bigger http://jsfiddle.net/gaby_de_wilde/fN9KC/Feb 18 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jsfiddle.net | Edit fiddle - JSFiddleFeb 18 08:32
msb_gde33: Nice!  I guess I should at least have a vertical TOC on one side or the other.  Is there a tag for making things float or do you have to use PHP?Feb 18 08:37
gde33sure, you just float it with cssFeb 18 08:37
msb_Thanks!Feb 18 08:37
gde33https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/floatFeb 18 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | float - CSS | MDN [ http://ur1.ca/gnbsq ]Feb 18 08:38
gde33the channels #css #html5 ##javascript are pretty useful if you are not in a hurryFeb 18 08:41
msb_gde33: Will that move the floated blocks vertically to keep them in view when I scroll way down the page?Feb 18 08:43
gde33fixed positioning is something different Feb 18 08:44
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msb_gde33: I want the TOC to stay in view as I scroll down a tall page.  Is there a way to do that without PHP?Feb 18 08:45
gde33php only makes html pages, it isn't involved in stylingFeb 18 08:46
gde33https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/positionFeb 18 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.mozilla.org | position - CSS | MDN [ http://ur1.ca/gnbw8 ]Feb 18 08:47
msb_Ruby on Rails?  Hypnosis?Feb 18 08:47
gde33sorry?Feb 18 08:47
icecrawlerruby on rails sounds like coding on cokeFeb 18 08:47
MinceR"hypnosis", the new web framework? :>Feb 18 08:48
gde33msb_: the server side language only makes the html pages, the styling is in the css, layout is in the htmlFeb 18 08:48
msb_This looks good, under "fixed" -- "position it at a specified position relative to the screen's viewport"Feb 18 08:49
gde33yes, that is what you want :)Feb 18 08:50
msb_Yes, the illo under "Fixed positioning" shows it.  Many thanks gde33!Feb 18 08:51
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gde33dont make it to long, people wont be able to get to the bottom end if their screen is to smallFeb 18 08:53
msb_Oooh this is gonna be so hot!Feb 18 08:53
gde33hahaFeb 18 08:53
Sosumiwhat? didn't the william greer murder jfk?Feb 18 08:53
Sosumithat is what can be deduced from the zepruder filmFeb 18 08:54
msb_The TOC will only have 6 or so entries -- color coded and linked to the big color boxes.Feb 18 08:54
gde33niceFeb 18 08:55
icecrawlermsb_ jews shot jfk?Feb 18 08:55
icecrawlerJFK was murdered by his wife - Jacqueline The Jesuit Assassin - YouTube  [ http://ur1.ca/gnbol ]Feb 18 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | JFK was murdered by his wife - Jacqueline The Jesuit Assassin - YouTubeFeb 18 08:55
SosumilolFeb 18 08:55
msb_icecrawler: No, but they are hiding under your bed and are gonna GETCHA!Feb 18 08:56
iophkhttp://news.sciencemag.org/europe/2014/02/royal-society-joins-open-access-bandwagonFeb 18 08:56
iophkhttp://news.sciencemag.org/people-events/2014/02/aaas-launches-open-access-journalFeb 18 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sciencemag.org | Royal Society Joins Open-Access Bandwagon | Science/AAAS | News [ http://ur1.ca/gnbyq ]Feb 18 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.sciencemag.org | AAAS Launches Open-Access Journal | Science/AAAS | News [ http://ur1.ca/gnbys ]Feb 18 08:57
msb_Jews are the only ones who have direct contact with the genocidal dominator god Jehovah.Feb 18 08:57
msb_The evil demiurge.Feb 18 08:57
msb_Probably just some Reptilian with a good stage act.Feb 18 08:58
msb_evil and convincing, not goodFeb 18 08:59
MinceRprobably just a figment of someone's imaginationFeb 18 09:00
icecrawlermsb_ could be mantids tooFeb 18 09:00
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/leaseweb-sued-for-hosting-megaupload-140217/Feb 18 09:02
iophkhttp://torrentfreak.com/nsa-authorized-monitoring-of-pirate-bay-and-proxy-users-140218/Feb 18 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | LeaseWeb Sued For Hosting Megaupload and Other "Pirate" Websites | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gnc10 ]Feb 18 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | NSA Authorized Monitoring of Pirate Bay and Proxy Users | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/gnc11 ]Feb 18 09:02
msb_According to Simon Parkes, the mantids are cool and intellectual.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igs5LahKkIQFeb 18 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | SIMON PARKES : The Project Avalon Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/glm9u ]Feb 18 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Alien Agenda - What THEY don't want you to know...[Simon Parkes New Horizons 2014] - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gn7xa ]Feb 18 09:03
gde33the open access journals are good news :)Feb 18 09:04
msb_Parkes is very convincing.  Those two videos are great.Feb 18 09:05
msb_gde33:  open access journals?Feb 18 09:05
msb_(BTW, I was just kidding about Jews.)Feb 18 09:06
gde33what iophk saidFeb 18 09:06
icecrawlerSteve Greer is awesome tooFeb 18 09:06
msb_gde33: The torrentfreak links?Feb 18 09:07
icecrawlermsb_ I think the guy with the cowboy hat in project avalon is an alienFeb 18 09:07
gde33no the 2 before thatFeb 18 09:08
MinceRillegal alien?Feb 18 09:09
MinceRdey took our jerbs!Feb 18 09:09
msb_gde33: Oh, right!  Open access journals -- Richard Stallman strikes again!  (indirectly)Feb 18 09:11
msb_MinceR: They took our jobs, but brought us some herbs!Feb 18 09:12
MinceR:>Feb 18 09:12
msb_What's the name of that other interview project, like Avalon?  I get the two confused.Feb 18 09:13
gde33camelotFeb 18 09:13
MinceRon second thought, let's not go to camelot. 'tis a silly place.Feb 18 09:13
msb_Yup, Camelot.  Thanks!Feb 18 09:14
gde33MinceR: if your bs filter doesn't work I would stay away from it. Otherwise it is facinating stuff.Feb 18 09:17
gde33if only to see what people can be made to believe happenedFeb 18 09:17
MinceRgde33: have you seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail? :>Feb 18 09:17
gde33sureFeb 18 09:18
gde33debriefing with brainwashing is both easy and effective, victims are less funny than people think, arguably brainwashed to laugh at that?Feb 18 09:19
gde33hard not to laugh sometimesFeb 18 09:20
gde33like 2 guys run into annother in a bar, they know lots of personal details about annother but have never met.Feb 18 09:21
msb_" the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.Feb 18 09:21
msb_-- Steven Greer quoting (sorry) Steve JobsFeb 18 09:22
msb_I'm an intellectual socialist.  From each according to his ability.  Some people have some good, even unique, ideas, even though they also put out a lot of crap.Feb 18 09:23
msb_Alex Jones is another.Feb 18 09:24
msb_afk; brb; MgCFeb 18 09:25
SosumiI think you guys should stop drinking :)Feb 18 09:28
icecrawler^ drinking lolFeb 18 09:36
icecrawleryou mainstream typesFeb 18 09:36
icecrawlerthink there is something wrong with people who think outside the boxFeb 18 09:37
icecrawleryou wouldn't believe in the mantids unless they were on CNNFeb 18 09:37
SosumiCartoon News Network?Feb 18 09:38
icecrawlerwatch this video mother fucker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4Feb 18 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | SIMON PARKES : The Project Avalon Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/glm9u ]Feb 18 09:39
Sosumiánd lol don't tell me you believe in the ET crapFeb 18 09:39
Sosumiand on con artists like David Ike and Alex JonesFeb 18 09:40
icecrawlerdude the "ET crap" is the truthFeb 18 09:40
Sosumiyeah rightFeb 18 09:40
Sosumiif you wanted to conceal advanced craft surely you would say "maybe they come from outer space"Feb 18 09:41
Sosumiand have a couple of nuttjobs following some guroFeb 18 09:41
Sosumilike again, David Ike or Alex JonesFeb 18 09:41
icecrawlerwhat about all the whistleblowersFeb 18 09:41
SosumiliesFeb 18 09:41
icecrawlerhundreds of ex airforce and ex navy solidersFeb 18 09:41
Sosumidisinfo agentsFeb 18 09:42
icecrawlerso hundreds of people are lying?Feb 18 09:42
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SosumiyesFeb 18 09:42
icecrawlersounds like a massive conspiracy to spread a lieFeb 18 09:42
icecrawlerconspiracy theoristFeb 18 09:42
iophkor just a lot of kooksFeb 18 09:42
icecrawlermantids killed jfkFeb 18 09:42
Sosumididn't the CIA take control of the religious broadcasts?Feb 18 09:43
iophktake it elsewhereFeb 18 09:43
icecrawlermsb_ might be the mantid that didFeb 18 09:43
Sosumispreading BS like "we are in the end times, bow down do nothing and read Romans 13"Feb 18 09:43
Sosumiit's all crapFeb 18 09:43
Sosumiand again, if you want to conceal advanced military hardwareFeb 18 09:44
icecrawlerthe mainstream media is all crapFeb 18 09:44
Sosumispecially of the kind that fliesFeb 18 09:44
Sosumithe best excuse is ETsFeb 18 09:44
icecrawlersame with all the brainwashing the reptilians do to keep people under controlFeb 18 09:44
Sosumisimply because of how gullible the ppeople areFeb 18 09:45
gde33I would compare our picture of aliens with the ants in my garden figuring out humansFeb 18 09:45
Sosumiyes reptilian, bewareFeb 18 09:45
Sosumithe queen of britain might turn in lizard the ripper and come to eat your soulFeb 18 09:46
Sosumiand your babiesFeb 18 09:46
Sosumiand your dogFeb 18 09:46
Sosumiand DrPizza's pizzaFeb 18 09:46
gde33I think the discussion is more about people being unable to get over first impressionsFeb 18 09:46
gde33you dont have to bother telling the atheist about god or the christian about the lack of godFeb 18 09:47
gde33so lets stick to the science? :DFeb 18 09:48
Sosumione is an entrenched belief built under the impressions of natureFeb 18 09:49
Sosumialiens are nonsenseFeb 18 09:49
gde33that is your first impressionFeb 18 09:50
gde33when you arrive at something being nonsense you also render yourself unable to investigateFeb 18 09:50
gde33investigating nonsense isn't going to happenFeb 18 09:50
Sosumialiens are nonsenseFeb 18 09:51
Sosumiso yes you can't investigate thatFeb 18 09:51
gde33you can investigate anythingFeb 18 09:51
gde33if you are able to keep an open mind, you can investigateFeb 18 09:52
Sosumibut for you having and "open mind" is accepting BSFeb 18 09:53
Sosumilike aliensFeb 18 09:53
gde33it is only BS for youFeb 18 09:53
icecrawlerfunny enough DrPizza was telling me this stuff the other dayFeb 18 09:53
gde33not for the researchers, some even believe there is something to itFeb 18 09:53
icecrawlerI was a skeptic but he convinced me mantids were realFeb 18 09:53
gde33hah, how did he do that?Feb 18 09:54
icecrawlerI've been abducted by one, I found outFeb 18 09:54
icecrawlerhe did a hypnosis session over skype with meFeb 18 09:54
gde33ahh so it isn't something you can proveFeb 18 09:54
icecrawlerDrPizza is pretty legitFeb 18 09:55
icecrawlerhe showed me this reptile brain he has in a jarFeb 18 09:55
SosumiyesFeb 18 09:56
Sosumithe brain he kept from his deceased iguanaFeb 18 09:56
gde33but you cant prove it is a reptilian brainFeb 18 09:56
Sosumiso an iguana doesn't have a brain?Feb 18 09:57
icecrawleryeah he did prove it was a reptile brainFeb 18 09:57
Sosuminor a snake?Feb 18 09:57
gde33but now that we have established you cant do research, then your conclusion is not based on research either.Feb 18 09:57
gde33hahaFeb 18 09:57
icecrawlerhe put the brain in an MRI machine over skype and killed some animals in front of itFeb 18 09:57
icecrawlerno empathy area of the brainFeb 18 09:58
Sosumiwhat about the micro$oft brain?Feb 18 09:58
gde33that is all anecdotalFeb 18 09:58
gde33lolFeb 18 09:58
gde33LO is goodFeb 18 09:59
gde33http://www.resologist.net/loei.htm   THE BOOK OF THE DAMNEDFeb 18 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.resologist.net | Lo!: A Hypertext Edition of Charles Hoy Fort's BookFeb 18 10:00
MinceRlolFeb 18 10:00
Sosumiwould DrPizza lend himself over to us for a high res MRIFeb 18 10:00
icecrawleranecdotal doesn't mean it didn't happenFeb 18 10:00
gde33it means we should accuse you of making stuff upFeb 18 10:00
gde33lolFeb 18 10:00
icecrawlerno it does notFeb 18 10:01
icecrawlerlook it upFeb 18 10:01
MinceRthis brain "experiment" sounds like Look Around YouFeb 18 10:01
gde33videos or it never happenedFeb 18 10:01
Sosumiso we can conduct tests on a sumulated copy of his brainFeb 18 10:01
icecrawlerjust means you can't take it as the only evidenceFeb 18 10:01
icecrawleryou can look at old egyptian runes thenFeb 18 10:01
icecrawlerwith reptilians drawn on themFeb 18 10:01
gde33many abductees talk with their psychatrist about itFeb 18 10:01
gde33the psychatrists talk about their patients, compare the casesFeb 18 10:02
gde33there is much consistency between the many casesFeb 18 10:02
icecrawlerwhen I was abducted my arm set of metal detectors for a few years until the chip disolvedFeb 18 10:02
gde33the best evidence is their number and that they are traumatised durring sleepFeb 18 10:02
gde33dreams dont produce life time traumasFeb 18 10:02
gde33I'm not saying it proves anythingFeb 18 10:03
gde33to argue with that you would have to be one of the psychatrists, able to discuss your patient professionally.Feb 18 10:03
gde33anything else is just pseudoscienceFeb 18 10:04
SosumilolFeb 18 10:04
Sosumiall human "sciences" are pseudosciencesFeb 18 10:04
icecrawleranything else is just reptilian propaganda mother fuckerFeb 18 10:04
gde33we had estabished you couldn't even do researchFeb 18 10:05
gde33lolFeb 18 10:05
gde33not that I would argue any of it is realFeb 18 10:05
icecrawlerpsychiatrists work for the graysFeb 18 10:05
gde33I believe there is true, false and unknownFeb 18 10:05
gde33unknown seems hard to get used to for peepsFeb 18 10:05
icecrawlermost people talk about area 51 but studio 54 has the real aliensFeb 18 10:06
MinceRicecrawler: let me guess... Xenu!Feb 18 10:06
msb_back nowFeb 18 10:07
msb_I knew a guy who discovered a room-temperature superconductor material -- titanium boride, IIRC.  Written up in Electronics magazine around 1980.Feb 18 10:08
gde33I admit facination with the abductions with implantsFeb 18 10:09
msb_Funny thing is, he was working at Wright-Patterson AFB, where the Roswell saucer was taken.Feb 18 10:09
icecrawlersounds like frozen thermite at 9/11 kooksFeb 18 10:09
gde33frozen?Feb 18 10:09
msb_But he denied being handed a piece of material and asked to duplicate it.Feb 18 10:10
Sosumi#techrights was invaded by UFOolsFeb 18 10:10
icecrawlergde33: yeah it sounds nutty alreadyFeb 18 10:10
gde33icecrawler: sounds like someone didn't read his conspiracy magazine properlyFeb 18 10:10
icecrawlergde33: DrPizza and msb_ debated with me over frozen thermite, where the government had mixed dry ice with thermiteFeb 18 10:10
icecrawlergde33: apparently it gets hot in reverse and freezes things so even a kick shatters themFeb 18 10:11
msb_"Frozen thermite" is total BS.Feb 18 10:11
Sosumi*frozen pizzaFeb 18 10:11
icecrawleri didnt believe it eitherFeb 18 10:11
gde33there is the milion dollar challange for anyone who can collapse a structure by dropping the top 2 floors on top of it.Feb 18 10:11
icecrawlerim in the camp that says 9/11 was aliens, and holograms made the UFO's look like human 747'sFeb 18 10:12
msb_Thermite is just  Al + Fe2O3Feb 18 10:12
msb_Freezing it wouldn't do anything, except make it a little harder to light.Feb 18 10:12
icecrawlermsb_ add dry ice to the mathFeb 18 10:12
gde33cutting reinforced steel with aluminum is funnyFeb 18 10:13
icecrawlerit works on paperFeb 18 10:13
gde33tears from laughterFeb 18 10:13
msb_Al is a very high energy fuel.  It will cut through almost anything.Feb 18 10:14
icecrawleryeah so the idea is that the frozen thermite froze the beams supercold and the aluminum was able to take it downFeb 18 10:14
gde33msb_: Kelvin was right, flying machines are impossible. :DFeb 18 10:14
icecrawlerbut why do you need some deus ex like frozen thermite when aliens can blow up a building with their alien weaponsFeb 18 10:14
icecrawlerholograms made it look like 474'sFeb 18 10:15
icecrawler747'sFeb 18 10:15
msb_Read here:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/Feb 18 10:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli GovernmentsFeb 18 10:15
icecrawlermsb_ disinfoFeb 18 10:15
icecrawlerthere were no planesFeb 18 10:15
msb_And here:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911Feb 18 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 18 10:16
iophkmsb_, icecrawler, take it to your own channel not hereFeb 18 10:16
icecrawleriophk this is my channelFeb 18 10:16
gde33this indeed doesn't seem a good channel for this stuffFeb 18 10:16
iophkit's not ufool channelFeb 18 10:16
gde33not desirable to have hereFeb 18 10:16
icecrawlerim shane, roy works for meFeb 18 10:16
iophktake it off this channelFeb 18 10:16
icecrawleri invented techrightsFeb 18 10:16
icecrawlerit was Conspiracy, UFOlogy, Microsoft Dirty Deeds, SuSE, SCO and BaconFeb 18 10:17
gde33hahahaFeb 18 10:17
icecrawlerbefore boycott-novell it was boycott-maj12Feb 18 10:18
icecrawlerso u gtfoFeb 18 10:18
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icecrawleriophk works for majestic 12Feb 18 10:19
gde33icecrawler: there is ##ufo and even ##conspiracy Feb 18 10:19
icecrawlerso much for tech freedomFeb 18 10:19
icecrawlerno rights hereFeb 18 10:19
gde33there areFeb 18 10:20
gde33it just doesn't make a good channel if you bring topics like thatFeb 18 10:20
icecrawlernobody has talked here in like a yearFeb 18 10:20
msb_icecrawler: You wouldn't get kicked if  you didn't keep spouting BS.Feb 18 10:20
icecrawlernow you're censoring the channel because you don't like to hear truthFeb 18 10:20
gde33I'm here for the links :)Feb 18 10:21
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icecrawleryeah talking about the fake planes always get me kickedFeb 18 10:21
gde33going to say nothing for a while nowFeb 18 10:21
icecrawlertill i talk to royFeb 18 10:21
icecrawlerroy doesnt censorFeb 18 10:21
icecrawlerill be backFeb 18 10:21
MinceRlol @ frozen thermiteFeb 18 10:23
icecrawlerfor the record: you guys are ok with msb blaming 9/11 on jews but I get kicked for saying aliens?Feb 18 10:23
MinceRiophk: the banmask doesn't allow for the ~ (from no identd)Feb 18 10:23
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iophkmincer: yeah, I'm on purple right now not konversation, not much is automatedFeb 18 10:24
icecrawlerhow about you just leave me aloneFeb 18 10:25
icecrawlerand ill shut up about ufosFeb 18 10:25
MinceRhow about you just leave us aloneFeb 18 10:25
icecrawlermark invited me hereFeb 18 10:25
icecrawlerto talk about free softwareFeb 18 10:25
icecrawlerwe got sidetrackedFeb 18 10:25
MinceRwhich mark?Feb 18 10:25
icecrawlermsbFeb 18 10:25
MinceRmsb?Feb 18 10:25
MinceRicFeb 18 10:26
gde33then dont side trackFeb 18 10:26
icecrawlerokFeb 18 10:26
icecrawlercentos7 is starting to look niceFeb 18 10:27
*icecrawler is a centos packagerFeb 18 10:27
gde33I think the world needs a windows vm with a linux distro preloaded, something like ubuntu.Feb 18 11:07
gde33then we windos users could finally learn how to use ubuntuFeb 18 11:07
iophkWubi used to be around for that.Feb 18 11:08
iophknot a VM thoughFeb 18 11:08
gde33I know, it is nice but not a vm indeedFeb 18 11:08
iophkpre-packaged images for VirtualBox and (I think) qemu exist,Feb 18 11:08
gde33I'm pointing at starting all over at computer powerlevel 0Feb 18 11:08
gde33armed with my windos apps I can attack any problem and learn any thingFeb 18 11:09
iophkbut the act of installing is instructive, too.  It's very simple and has been so for years.Feb 18 11:09
gde33if I boot ubuntu I just dont know wtf is going onFeb 18 11:09
iophkCan you run VirtualBox?Feb 18 11:09
gde33I can do this here http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/11287/how-to-run-ubuntu-in-windows-7-with-vmware-player/Feb 18 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | How To Run Ubuntu in Windows 7 with VMware Player [ http://ur1.ca/gnd6t ]Feb 18 11:09
gde33but that is a lot to ask from a windos userFeb 18 11:09
iophkvmware is not greatFeb 18 11:10
gde33mounting an iso and installing itFeb 18 11:10
iophkWith VirtualBox, you can click on the disc image to use for the initial boot of the VMFeb 18 11:10
iophkif you use an installer image then you install...Feb 18 11:10
gde33would it be possible to boot the same install as the one in the vm?Feb 18 11:11
iophkYou could boot the installed image in the VM after it is installed.  Feb 18 11:11
iophkOr during the installation, if the disc image is a "live" image you can run a live session instead.Feb 18 11:11
iophkhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualboxFeb 18 11:12
gde33that would totally take the pain out of migration?Feb 18 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.psychocats.net | Installing Ubuntu inside Windows using VirtualBoxFeb 18 11:12
iophkMost instructions are for putting Windows guests on a Linux host.Feb 18 11:12
iophkThe core of VirtualBox is FOSSFeb 18 11:13
iophkand it's cross-platformFeb 18 11:13
iophkso you can move your VM to another host laterFeb 18 11:13
iophkSince you are starting out, try using snapshots so you can undo experiments and mistakes.Feb 18 11:14
gde33good planFeb 18 11:15
iophkIf you want a preview of the next Ubuntu LTS, it is approaching beta already.  Or Mageia 4 was just released if you like RPM instead of APT.  Feb 18 11:16
icecrawlerwindows 8 comes with hyper-v, just use thatFeb 18 11:26
iophkIt's not  portable and probably does not work properly anyway.Feb 18 11:31
icecrawlerliesFeb 18 11:32
msb_Folks, I snoozed off, woke up just now, and reviewed what's been said.  I DID NOT INVITE ICECRAWLER HERE!!!Feb 18 11:32
msb_He's lying!Feb 18 11:32
iophkhttp://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Linux_Guest_System_Support_under_Hyper-VFeb 18 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thomas-krenn.com | Linux Guest System Support under Hyper-V - Thomas Krenn Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/gndcb ]Feb 18 11:32
icecrawlersee iophkFeb 18 11:32
icecrawlerworks fineFeb 18 11:32
iophkonly for certain versionsFeb 18 11:33
icecrawleranything made in the last yearFeb 18 11:33
icecrawlercentos 6.3 and upFeb 18 11:33
icecrawlerfedora since 18Feb 18 11:33
iophkVirtualBox is portable to other systems and older versions not just Vista8Feb 18 11:33
icecrawlerwho wants to run old linux distrosFeb 18 11:33
icecrawlervirtualbox is also slow as ballsFeb 18 11:34
icecrawlerhyper-v files can be used in vmware tooFeb 18 11:34
icecrawlervmware and hyper-v are the only vm systems that matter anywayFeb 18 11:35
iophkno one uses vmware now that virtualbox is availableFeb 18 11:35
icecrawlerwrongFeb 18 11:35
icecrawlervmware is used by business when they want speed instead of hippiesFeb 18 11:35
icecrawlervirtualbox, again, is slow as ballsFeb 18 11:36
icecrawleresxi eats it for breakfastFeb 18 11:36
gde33thats okFeb 18 11:36
gde33vm is good to learn a new distroFeb 18 11:36
icecrawleri dont want people to think linux is slow because of shitty virtualboxFeb 18 11:37
iophkpoor host software thenFeb 18 11:37
gde33I wonder what it would cost to do a windows vm with a linux distro preloaded, an option to boot the distro as well and an option to reset it.Feb 18 11:37
gde33if one would just hire programmers I meanFeb 18 11:37
icecrawleriophk: its called sun and oracle, the kings of bloaty slowwareFeb 18 11:38
icecrawlerthey dont call it slowlaris for nothing, and they made virtualboxFeb 18 11:38
gde33just buy a better computer :DFeb 18 11:38
icecrawlermy i7 4770 laughs at thatFeb 18 11:38
icecrawlervirtualbox is so shitty I can even tell on an overpowered computerFeb 18 11:39
icecrawleryou guys just have such slow computers, that everything is slow and you dont noticeFeb 18 11:39
gde33sure I doFeb 18 11:39
gde33I just dont want to boot into an os that I dont understand any ofFeb 18 11:39
icecrawlerprobably running core2duo's or AMD'sFeb 18 11:39
gde33I need the training wheelsFeb 18 11:40
gde33will glady pay for ellimination of dialogs that shouldn't be thereFeb 18 11:40
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/02/thief-reboot-runs-at-1080p-on-ps4-900p-on-xbox-one/Feb 18 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Thief reboot runs at 1080p on PS4, 900p on Xbox One | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gndfe ]Feb 18 11:45
Sosumiwhen is the m$ start paying game devs to make ps4 games worst?Feb 18 11:47
Sosumi*when is M$Feb 18 11:47
iophkThey might be losing control of the devs.Feb 18 11:48
iophkSteam is an example of the break-away.Feb 18 11:48
Sosumithey never had controlFeb 18 11:48
Sosumiremember? during the xbox 360 daysFeb 18 11:48
Sosumithey were buying timed exclusives and timed dlcFeb 18 11:48
XFaCEicecrawler: Have you seen Ender's Game yet? Heard it's mediocreFeb 18 11:49
SosumiexclusivityFeb 18 11:49
Sosumiwith in the end, the ps3 getting game+dlc+added content on a single game cdFeb 18 11:50
Sosumithat actually happened with some Tales gameFeb 18 11:50
Sosumim$ if they were smartFeb 18 11:51
Sosumiwould better just do what I've sayingFeb 18 11:52
Sosumiand turn the xbox on a fully fledged pc that ppl can use to synch their phone, music, browser the web and do doc editingFeb 18 11:53
Sosumior just pull out of the businessFeb 18 11:53
iophkI thought the xbox was just their experiment with DRM'd hardwareFeb 18 11:53
Sosumithen the ps1Feb 18 11:54
Sosumibeat them at thatFeb 18 11:54
iophkps2 had them beat even after the ps3 was outFeb 18 11:54
Sosumiif you want worstFeb 18 11:54
Sosuminintendo had full control of the distribution method of their consoles back during the cartrdge daysFeb 18 11:55
iophkcartridges were a fairly solid way to control distributionFeb 18 11:55
SosumiyepFeb 18 11:56
iophkalso people are more willing to shell out big money if they know they can easily resell the cartridge laterFeb 18 11:56
Sosumiso, even more tight than the xboxFeb 18 11:56
SosumiyesFeb 18 11:56
iophkyes, but the xbox was probably a model for locking down regular Windows machinesFeb 18 11:56
Sosumibut this past gen introduced passesFeb 18 11:57
Sosumiwich consisted of a code that you introduced to unluck certain features of the gameFeb 18 11:57
Sosumiif you had bought the game on second handFeb 18 11:57
Sosumithen you had to go to the console built in store and pay for that contentFeb 18 11:58
Sosumiboth ps3 and xbox had thatFeb 18 11:58
iophkthat looks to be the way they are trying to head, all of themFeb 18 11:58
iophkpretty soon you'll have to swipe your credit card through the machine just to bootFeb 18 11:58
iophkthen again to run a gameFeb 18 11:59
Sosumithe way they're heading is digitasl distroFeb 18 11:59
Sosumiyou buy it, dowload it and that is itFeb 18 11:59
Sosumino more resselling or tradingFeb 18 11:59
iophkdoctrine of first sale used to apply, but it is now turning into rentalFeb 18 11:59
Sosumijust like steam isFeb 18 11:59
iophkthat's a big down side to steamFeb 18 11:59
Sosumisteam isn't rentalFeb 18 12:00
Sosumiyou just lease the game for as long as you have the accountFeb 18 12:00
iophkclose enough Feb 18 12:00
Sosumithat is the model sony and M$ kind of wishFeb 18 12:00
Sosumialso situation in ukraine turning worstFeb 18 12:01
Sosumi5 more civilian deathsFeb 18 12:01
Sosumiand things still out of handFeb 18 12:02
Sosumifrom what I heard even the ukranian president is on temporary leaveFeb 18 12:02
Sosumiclaiming medical conditionsFeb 18 12:02
Sosumiwould poland under a covert nato protest dare to intervene?Feb 18 12:02
Sosumi*pretextFeb 18 12:03
Sosumithat would certainly end up with russian forces entering in from the eastFeb 18 12:03
iophkhttp://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale12x/presentations/opening-keynote-only-you-can-get-so-where-are-youFeb 18 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.socallinuxexpo.org | Opening Keynote: Only You Can Get This, So Where Are You? | SCALE 12x [ http://ur1.ca/gndjh ]Feb 18 12:05
Sosumialso military planes spotted flying above kievFeb 18 12:24
Sosumibut I doubt thatFeb 18 12:24
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icecrawlerI build my own UAVsFeb 18 13:00
icecrawlerI got the cops a ticket once for breaking the law, my UAVs follow policeFeb 18 13:03
icecrawlerpretty funnyFeb 18 13:03
icecrawlerusing their lights to get through a red light, tisk tiskFeb 18 13:04
icecrawlermother fucking copsFeb 18 13:05
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icecrawlerThese pigs stopped my friend once cause he drives a sports car; so I used my justice of the peace status I obtained with the freemen to search their car. I found cocaine they seized but never marked down as evidence. I had them tested a few days later.Feb 18 13:08
icecrawlerpunkedFeb 18 13:08
icecrawlermsb_ you get your justice of the peace status yet?Feb 18 13:12
msb_noFeb 18 13:12
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icecrawlerget yourself a bunch of signatures and get yourself sworn in front of a judgeFeb 18 13:13
icecrawleryou can act as a common law justice of the peaceFeb 18 13:13
msb_Why did you lie and say I had invited you here?Feb 18 13:14
icecrawleryou didFeb 18 13:14
msb_When and where?Feb 18 13:14
icecrawlerin ##conspiracyFeb 18 13:14
icecrawleryou're mark bilk right?Feb 18 13:15
icecrawlerit was a few months ago but i was getting my powermac fixedFeb 18 13:15
icecrawleri got a new ati card, 128mb and now it does 1080p to my tvFeb 18 13:16
icecrawlerlooks awesomeFeb 18 13:16
icecrawlerthis powermac g4 will live foreverFeb 18 13:16
icecrawlerbut anywaysFeb 18 13:16
icecrawleryou were saying in ##conspiracy that you only use linux because the CIA has backdoors in windows and osxFeb 18 13:17
msb_I did not say that.  Feb 18 13:17
icecrawleri talked to  you on the phone and you said you used susie lunixFeb 18 13:17
icecrawlerlinuxFeb 18 13:18
msb_And my irc client, konversation, keeps logs of all posts in all channels I visit.Feb 18 13:18
msb_There is no log for ##conspiracy.Feb 18 13:18
icecrawlerit was on the phoneFeb 18 13:18
icecrawleryou were in ##conspiracyFeb 18 13:18
icecrawlerbefore you changed your name to msb_Feb 18 13:18
msb_I use Linux because it's a much better OS than Windows or OSX.Feb 18 13:19
icecrawlerwhen it was mbilk_Feb 18 13:19
icecrawlerwhat about the NSA backdoorsFeb 18 13:19
msb_I've never used the nick mbilk in irc.Feb 18 13:20
icecrawlerRedhat and the NSA's Studio54 project to backdoor Linux with SELInuxFeb 18 13:20
roy_icecrawler: who are you?Feb 18 13:20
icecrawleryou were mbilk_ in ##conspiracy only last week MarkFeb 18 13:20
msb_That must have been someone else pretending to be me.Feb 18 13:20
---roy_ is now known as schestowitz__Feb 18 13:21
icecrawlerit could beFeb 18 13:21
msb_I have no log and no bookmark for ##conspiracy, and I was certainly not there last week using the name mbilk_.Feb 18 13:21
icecrawlernot sure how to tell, you told me you change hostnames and nicks a lot because of the CIAFeb 18 13:21
schestowitz__smells like infiltrator to meFeb 18 13:21
msb_I have never said any such thing, and I do not do it.Feb 18 13:21
schestowitz__Watch your language BTW, I think you're here just to spy on and distract the channelFeb 18 13:22
msb_There are several psychopaths from COLA who've stalked me for months in the past.Feb 18 13:22
MinceRvmware is horribly crapFeb 18 13:22
icecrawlerinteresting, i hope you catch that mother fucker. but mark, you seem like a cool guy with your aliens videosFeb 18 13:22
MinceRthey can't even do console properlyFeb 18 13:22
schestowitz__msb_: you needn't feed him, that thing is just some anon trying to discredit the channelFeb 18 13:22
icecrawlermsb_ come to ##conspiracyFeb 18 13:23
schestowitz__MinceR: bmware is for windiotsFeb 18 13:23
MinceRindeedFeb 18 13:23
schestowitz__vm_bwareFeb 18 13:23
schestowitz__who want to be spoonfed with a GUI even for a consoleFeb 18 13:23
msb_schestowitz__: Are you talking to icecrawler or to me regarding language, spying, etc?Feb 18 13:24
schestowitz__Vsphere on Windows connected to Linux consoles makes them as insecure as Windows, i.e. NSA honeypotsFeb 18 13:24
schestowitz__same for MS' HYPE-VFeb 18 13:24
schestowitz__msb_: I think there's an attempt to paint us negativelyFeb 18 13:24
icecrawleroh did I commit the crime of mentioning proprietary productsFeb 18 13:24
schestowitz__I saw that done to globalresearch.ca/chudorovskyFeb 18 13:25
MinceRi wouldn't mind the GUI, if it workedFeb 18 13:25
MinceRbut it's winblows garbageFeb 18 13:25
icecrawlermincer, are you 15?Feb 18 13:25
schestowitz__All they have to do is drop some **** here and then say "look, techrights says [x] [y]..."Feb 18 13:25
MinceRicecrawler: are you 13?Feb 18 13:25
icecrawler"winblows"?Feb 18 13:25
MinceRu mad?Feb 18 13:25
icecrawlerlol real mature broFeb 18 13:26
MinceRcall the waaaaahmbulance, someone mocked icecrawler's favorite OSFeb 18 13:26
schestowitz__[18:04] <icecrawler> I got the cops a ticket once for breaking the law, my UAVs follow policeFeb 18 13:26
schestowitz__^ and provocation  to make us look radicalFeb 18 13:26
schestowitz__and foul-mouthedFeb 18 13:26
MinceRand a liarFeb 18 13:26
icecrawlerim a crime fighterFeb 18 13:26
MinceRno you're notFeb 18 13:26
schestowitz__you are paid by gchq?Feb 18 13:26
icecrawlerits all legalFeb 18 13:27
MinceRwhatever the lobbyists buy is legalFeb 18 13:27
icecrawlerim a justice of the peace and I have an air licenseFeb 18 13:27
MinceRwhatever the secret courts prop up is legalFeb 18 13:27
icecrawleri catch those police mother fuckers doing all kinds of crimes like parking in handicapped spots; using their lights to get through reds; smoking in their carsFeb 18 13:28
icecrawlerwhy is it wrong to use drones against mother fucking government douches ?Feb 18 13:29
icecrawlersurveillance, no weaponsFeb 18 13:29
*schestowitz__ installed tor and privacy-centric browsers on Android today...Feb 18 13:31
icecrawleryou must be a terrorist schestowitzFeb 18 13:31
icecrawlerbetter install tor on that ak-47 tooFeb 18 13:32
MinceRschestowitz__: which browsers?Feb 18 13:32
MinceRi'm guessing orweb is one :>Feb 18 13:32
icecrawlerchromeFeb 18 13:32
MinceRhar har harFeb 18 13:33
icecrawlerits the most secure, each tab has its own PIDFeb 18 13:33
icecrawlerjust use /etc/hosts to filter safebrowsingFeb 18 13:33
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icecrawlerDaemonFC how much bitcoin do I owe youFeb 18 13:34
msb_I think we should go back to the kwatloo standard.  It has much more history.Feb 18 13:35
DaemonFCfor what?Feb 18 13:35
msb_For money.  Bitcoins are meaningless.Feb 18 13:36
MinceRwhat's a "kwatloo standard"?Feb 18 13:36
msb_Sorry.  Startrek original series episode.Feb 18 13:36
MinceRicFeb 18 13:36
MinceRi should probably watch that eventuallyFeb 18 13:37
DaemonFCIf they're meaningless, then give me a ton of them. I'll cash them out for USD and go buy myself a new car or something.Feb 18 13:37
DaemonFC:)Feb 18 13:37
MinceR:)Feb 18 13:37
DaemonFCAnything you can cash out for US dollars is at least as good as the number of US dollars you can get for them.Feb 18 13:38
msb_People used to talk about kwatloos on Usenet years ago.  I'm an old fart.Feb 18 13:38
DaemonFCI even have some Euro coins as souvenirs. Feb 18 13:39
*MinceR gets off the lawnFeb 18 13:39
DaemonFCIt's good for the European economy when tourists take them back to their home country where they can't be spent.Feb 18 13:39
DaemonFCIt's basically the same thing as burning money.Feb 18 13:40
icecrawlerDaemonFC for the sniper rifleFeb 18 13:41
DaemonFCMoney can only cause inflation when it's in circulation.Feb 18 13:41
msb_As uncertain as it is to rely on some government for exchanging something useful for its paper money, nobody guarantees that bitcoins are worth anything.Feb 18 13:41
DaemonFCIf people hold it and never demand anything for it, then it can't cause price inflation.Feb 18 13:41
MinceRmsb_: there are no absolute guarantees for the value of any currency.Feb 18 13:42
msb_True, but relying on the (evil) US govt is better than relying on nothing.Feb 18 13:42
DaemonFCPrices in the US have remained stable even  though the Federal Reserve has created many trillions of dollars in the last few years.Feb 18 13:43
DaemonFCWhy? :)Feb 18 13:43
msb_They haven't.  Prices slowly increase.Feb 18 13:43
DaemonFCSlow stable inflation is nothing to be alarmed about, so long as wages are increasing as well.Feb 18 13:44
msb_Food companies sneakily decrease the size of their containers.Feb 18 13:44
DaemonFCI remember when the US had 4-5% annual inflation and it was "morning in America".Feb 18 13:44
msb_I doubt that wages are increasing at all.Feb 18 13:45
msb_And at least 25% of would-be workers are unemployed.Feb 18 13:45
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DaemonFCRight. And people with no buying power can't command the economy to give them anything.Feb 18 13:45
DaemonFCThereby controlling inflation. :)Feb 18 13:45
DaemonFCPrices can only rise if consumers will agree to pay the new price.Feb 18 13:46
msb_If they don't, they starve.Feb 18 13:46
DaemonFCWell, even with food, there's a substitution effect.Feb 18 13:47
msb_Sure.  Grass, tree bark...Feb 18 13:47
DaemonFCIf the price of beef goes up, you buy chicken.Feb 18 13:47
msb_Fried rats.Feb 18 13:47
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DaemonFCOfficial inflation figures exclude the price of food and energy.Feb 18 13:48
msb_Cute, eh?Feb 18 13:48
DaemonFCSo it can provide data that suggests that inflation is lower than it really is.Feb 18 13:48
DaemonFCRight. Once you exclude the two most out of control things in the economy.....Feb 18 13:49
msb_They should exclude the cost of rent, clothing, and medical care.  Then things would be perfect.Feb 18 13:49
icecrawlerCause medical care is expensiveFeb 18 13:49
msb_I'm starving to death on the street, but life is perfect.Feb 18 13:50
icecrawlerOh noes, bandaids cost a few bucksFeb 18 13:50
DaemonFCThey don't track rent. They do track housing prices.Feb 18 13:50
DaemonFCThat tells you nothing.Feb 18 13:50
DaemonFCA slumlord can buy a house for next to nothing and charge an obscene amount of rent.Feb 18 13:50
icecrawlerits 2014: cheap people are being cheapFeb 18 13:51
DaemonFCAnd he can get away with it as long as you don't have the credit to buy your own house.Feb 18 13:51
icecrawlerlol a slumlordFeb 18 13:51
icecrawlerthey become that way when someone who rents destroys the placeFeb 18 13:52
msb_No, they become that way when they realize they can raise the rents and people still have to pay.Feb 18 13:52
icecrawleri've paid the same rent for five yearsFeb 18 13:53
icecrawlernow I have a pool that didn't exist when I moved inFeb 18 13:53
DaemonFCSome landlords only bother to raise the rent when you move out and another tenant moves in.Feb 18 13:54
DaemonFCThey figure that most tenants only stay for a few years anyway, so they don't bother to jack the rent up every year.Feb 18 13:54
DaemonFCI moved in to my last apartment in January 2007. The lease expired in January 2008. I was living there until December 2012.Feb 18 13:55
SosumiI bet the both the NSA and CIA also have dedicated teams exploiting gnu/linux 24/7Feb 18 13:55
schestowitz__msb_: yes, orwebFeb 18 13:55
Sosumiso, no place to hideFeb 18 13:55
DaemonFCUnder Indiana law, if the lease expires, you continue under the terms of the old lease until a new lease is signed.Feb 18 13:55
icecrawlermost places are like that DaemonFCFeb 18 13:56
MinceRschestowitz__: that's just one browser, not 'browsers' :>Feb 18 13:56
DaemonFCThe landlord probably figured that it was better to have a tenant that he knew would always pay on time and wasn't tearing the place up than it would be to jack up the rent $20 and provoke me into leaving.Feb 18 13:56
MinceRgeekingsFeb 18 13:57
msb_schestowitz__: Apparently orweb is for Android, which I don't use.  Did you mean to answer someone else?Feb 18 13:58
MinceRyes, he meant to answer meFeb 18 13:58
schestowitz__MinceR: added to firefox, tooFeb 18 13:58
MinceRicFeb 18 13:58
schestowitz__MinceR: yes, MinceRFeb 18 13:58
iophkbetter to use TBB than to try to customize Firefox.  You could do it, but with TBB the work is already done.Feb 18 13:59
schestowitz__msb_: yes, MinceRFeb 18 13:59
schestowitz__autocompleteFeb 18 13:59
DaemonFCmsb_: There's only one thing that keeps prices in check. Competition.Feb 18 13:59
schestowitz__scrolling back I think I've just landed into another SurfingTheApocalypseFeb 18 13:59
schestowitz__One troll managed to sature the channel with lots of crap about "reptilians" and stuffFeb 18 13:59
DaemonFCLandlords can't generally get away with charging much more than the prevailing rent in the area. If they go much higher, then people will simply move somewhere else.Feb 18 13:59
schestowitz__Later groups like ACT say we're "conspiracy theorists"Feb 18 14:00
schestowitz__And Mono boosters say we call for people to be assassinatedFeb 18 14:00
icecrawlermsb_ was linking some high quality videos about mantidsFeb 18 14:00
icecrawlernot reptiliansFeb 18 14:00
DaemonFCThe situation most favorable to renters is when there are no shortage of apartments, which means that landlords have to cut rent prices to keep them from going empty.Feb 18 14:00
msb_Anyone who uses the term  "conspiracy theorists" is a fool, a government stooge, or both.Feb 18 14:01
schestowitz__that's the term they useFeb 18 14:01
schestowitz__not meFeb 18 14:01
msb_I understand that.Feb 18 14:01
schestowitz__!google carlin conspiracy theoristFeb 18 14:01
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - George Carlin - Conspiracy Theorists - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DbO0-u900OG4Feb 18 14:01
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - George Carlin - Conspiracy Theorists and Powerful People - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D5QOVdE_3anUFeb 18 14:01
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - George Carlin on Conspiracy Theories and the NWO - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DgtpZ65V0DPUFeb 18 14:01
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Prison Planet.com » George Carlin – Conspiracy Theorists | http://www.prisonplanet.com/george-carlin-%25E2%2580%2593-conspiracy-theorists.htmlFeb 18 14:01
DaemonFCThe government can use rent control laws, but if they get too aggressive, those can backfire.Feb 18 14:01
DaemonFCIf they pass a law that says that nobody may charge more than $200 a month for a one bedroom apartment, then all of a sudden, there are no apartments, because no landlord will rent them out at a loss.Feb 18 14:02
MinceR200002 < schestowitz__> One troll managed to sature the channel with lots of crap about "reptilians" and stuffFeb 18 14:02
MinceRshould we ban them?Feb 18 14:02
DaemonFChttp://www.goodreads.com/quotes/538135-we-economists-don-t-know-much-but-we-do-know-howFeb 18 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Milton Friedman: We economists don't know much, but we do know h... [ http://ur1.ca/gnep8 ]Feb 18 14:03
msb_DaemonFC: 99% of the wealth goes to 1% of the population.  We'd be much better off with democratic socialism.Feb 18 14:04
DaemonFCI don't see a particularly good excuse for $3.60 a gallon gas.Feb 18 14:06
msb_We have no way of knowing who or what is at the top of the domination/control pyramid of our planet.  Calling any mention of aliens "crap" is not intellectually honest.Feb 18 14:07
DaemonFChttp://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/rs-500-us-oil-production1.jpgFeb 18 14:08
DaemonFClolFeb 18 14:08
MinceRmsb_: implicitly assuming that unknown people must be aliens is also not intellectually honest.Feb 18 14:08
msb_MinceR: I don't assume that.  But I do listen to coherent people who say it, and Sumerians who wrote about it copiously.Feb 18 14:09
msb_It's a possibility worth considering.Feb 18 14:10
MinceRdid we not listen? :>Feb 18 14:10
msb_Sure.Feb 18 14:10
msb_I was mostly speaking to Roy's objections.Feb 18 14:11
msb_I hang out in this channel because there are some smart people here, and the topic is the relationship of Linux and FOSS to society.Feb 18 14:12
msb_e.g., swpats, open journals, etc.Feb 18 14:12
msb_gde33 gave me perfect help for my website html!Feb 18 14:13
MinceRthat's niceFeb 18 14:14
schestowitz__MinceR: don't feedFeb 18 14:17
msb_The fact is, the higher you look on the control pyramid, the weird things get -- bankers being killed recently, mind-controlled slaves, pederasty, even child sacrifice.Feb 18 14:17
msb_So it could be just extreme psychopaths and psychotics, or it could be aliens feeding off human agony.Feb 18 14:18
msb_weird-->weirderFeb 18 14:18
msb_Anyhow, I only talk about aliens when somebody else mentions it first.Feb 18 14:20
iophkhttp://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2014/02/17/meet-microsofts-new-old-head-of-lync-and-skype/Feb 18 14:20
iophkhttp://www.itworld.com/unified-communications/405602/microsoft-pushes-ahead-skype-lync-integrationFeb 18 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.fortune.cnn.com | Meet Microsoft's new (old) head of Lync and Skype - Fortune Tech [ http://ur1.ca/gnez1 ]Feb 18 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Microsoft pushes ahead with Skype-Lync integration | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gnez2 ]Feb 18 14:20
msb_iophk: That sure needs a good open-source substitute.Feb 18 14:22
msb_schestowitz__: I am not a "troll", and if people talk to me it is not "feeding".Feb 18 14:25
DaemonFCI noticed that something scratched the hood of my car.Feb 18 14:29
DaemonFCI have no idea what happened.Feb 18 14:29
DaemonFC*sigh* This is why I can't have nice things.Feb 18 14:29
msb_I'd make a joke here, but i don't want to piss Roy off any more than he already is.Feb 18 14:30
msb_Just get some touchup paint.Feb 18 14:30
schestowitz__msb_:  I was not referring to youFeb 18 14:32
msb_What was that old movie about a giant bird, which at the end carried off the guy who played in a long-running TV show, maybe Highway Patrol?Feb 18 14:32
DaemonFCI suppose I could get some touch up paint. The last owner did some really awful scratch repair in certain spots already. Looks like he painted it with toenail polish.Feb 18 14:33
msb_schestowitz__: Oh, good!  Thanks!Feb 18 14:33
DaemonFCIt never ends up looking right, but at least it won't rust.Feb 18 14:33
msb_DaemonFC: And you could paint over the toenail polish using the right color.Feb 18 14:34
msb_Or paint your entire car with toenail polish and glitter!Feb 18 14:34
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MinceRwhat could possibly go wrong? :>Feb 18 14:36
iophkmsb_: SIP clients include Ekiga, Linphone and Jitsi.  They all work with each other.Feb 18 14:41
msb_iophk: I've never been able to get any of those to work, but maybe when I update my Linux...Feb 18 14:44
msb_iophk: Does SIP do video and conferencing?Feb 18 14:45
iophkLinphone is is cross-platformFeb 18 14:45
iophkhttp://www.linphone.org/eng/download/packages/linphone.htmlFeb 18 14:45
iophkas is JitsiFeb 18 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linphone.org | Linphone 3.6.0 | Linphone, an open-source video sip phone [ http://ur1.ca/gnf5g ]Feb 18 14:45
iophkmsb_:  yes but it depends on the clientFeb 18 14:53
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iophkI'm not sure of an upper limit on conference call partiticpantsFeb 18 14:54
msb_For now, I use skype (which I did long before MS bought it), or IHU (if the other person is using Linux).  IHU is easy to set up.Feb 18 14:54
msb_But the old statically-linked version of IHU doesn't work with modern Linux.Feb 18 14:55
iophkSome use Google Hangouts but I'd not want to give more over to Google any more.Feb 18 14:56
MinceRskype was untrustworthy long before m$ bought it :>Feb 18 14:57
iophkIt was/is a major security hole.Feb 18 14:58
iophk(skype)Feb 18 14:58
MinceRindeedFeb 18 14:58
msb_I just don't care who listens in.  I have nothing to hide.Feb 18 14:59
msb_Google drops services without notice.  I have a feeling it's becoming evil.Feb 18 14:59
MinceRbecoming? :>Feb 18 15:00
iophkSince the IPO it is only a matter of time.  Feb 18 15:00
iophkhttp://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/the-data-trust-blog/2009/02/debunking-a-myth-if-you-have-n.htmlFeb 18 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Debunking a myth: If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear - Identity, Privacy and Trust [ http://ur1.ca/gnf84 ]Feb 18 15:00
msb_Skype does have good quieting and echo-cancellation on a good platform.Feb 18 15:00
iophkI found the sound quality poor due to distortion and there were frequent disconnections.Feb 18 15:01
MinceRi don't think that obfuscated nonfree code that needs to communicate with random peers on random ports is a "good platform"Feb 18 15:01
iophkBut that was years ago.Feb 18 15:01
iophkThe closed protocol used by skype is probably as bad as the closed source.Feb 18 15:01
MinceRindeed.Feb 18 15:01
iophkIt prevents growth and competition.Feb 18 15:02
msb_by good platform I meant a good computer, not a doorstop -er- tablet.Feb 18 15:03
msb_IHU works well, but it probably has to be recompiled these days.  A friend found an Ubuntu version, but he had very low mike volume on his doorstop.Feb 18 15:05
MinceRhow would you stop a door with a tablet?Feb 18 15:06
msb_First stomp on one side of it to make it lower so you can get it under the door.Feb 18 15:08
msb_OK, here's my ip-address  98.248.33.213, and here's IHU:  http://ihu.sourceforge.net/  http://ihu.sourceforge.net/download.html Feb 18 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ihu.sourceforge.net | I Hear U (IHU) Project HomepageFeb 18 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ihu.sourceforge.net | IHU DownloadFeb 18 15:11
msb_Would somebody please run it (probably have to recompile unless you have an old Linux) and call me?Feb 18 15:11
msb_You can test it by calling your own address.  If you hear your voice, slightly delayed, it's working.Feb 18 15:12
msb_It's much easier than SIP.  You only have to open one port in your firewall.Feb 18 15:15
iophkSIP goes through the firewall just fine.Feb 18 15:15
iophkhttp://falkvinge.net/2012/07/19/debunking-the-dangerous-nothing-to-hide-nothing-to-fear/Feb 18 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-falkvinge.net | Debunking The Dangerous "If You Have Nothing To Hide, You Have Nothing To Fear" - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/9szfq ]Feb 18 15:15
msb_Without opening any ports?Feb 18 15:15
iophkI've never had to open anyFeb 18 15:16
msb_It must be like skype where it keeps a channel open to the server.Feb 18 15:16
MinceRor it could optionally use TURN or STUNFeb 18 15:17
MinceRor IPv6 :>Feb 18 15:18
DaemonFCI might go wash my carFeb 18 15:19
DaemonFCIt's warm enough to do it right now.Feb 18 15:19
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msb_Yes!  At 2450 seconds into The Vulture starring Broderick Crawford, you can see him carried off a balcony by a giant bird!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZILfQ1DeT3YFeb 18 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The vulture 1967 Full movie. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gnfqm ]Feb 18 16:35
msb_DaemonFC: which is probably what scratched your car!Feb 18 16:36
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msb_Then there is The Giant Claw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olezaLrnYzE  featuring what must be the silliest-looking monster ever, and lots of jet planes.Feb 18 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | the giant claw - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gnfri ]Feb 18 16:38
DaemonFCmsb_: Probably one of those winter storms.Feb 18 16:43
DaemonFCProbably knocked a tree branch loose or something.Feb 18 16:43
DaemonFCI would say it was a vandal, except that vandals tend to do more damage than that while they're at it anyway, and....I haven't done anything to anyone, lately.Feb 18 16:43
DaemonFCB-)Feb 18 16:43
msb_The Giant Claw flies in the wintertime!Feb 18 16:44
DaemonFCmsb_: The car has some minor exterior issues.Feb 18 16:44
DaemonFCThe interior is in great shape. The frame is strong and has minimal rust.Feb 18 16:44
msb_We all have issues.Feb 18 16:44
DaemonFCThe engine, transmission, and other stuff is all in good shape.Feb 18 16:44
DaemonFCI think the car should last at least another 10 years.Feb 18 16:44
msb_Usually The Giant Claw would eat giant bugs like those at the beginning of _Rodan_.Feb 18 16:49
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msb_My wonderful cat Fog looked just like Rodan when I pushed her ears together to make little horns on her head.  I called her Foggy-Rodan.Feb 18 16:50
DaemonFCThat prune juice really did the trick.Feb 18 16:51
DaemonFCMaybe a little bit too well.Feb 18 16:51
msb_Note that The Feb 18 16:51
msb_Note that The Vulture has theremin music!Feb 18 16:51
DaemonFCI might cut it back to 10 ounces instead of 16.Feb 18 16:51
msb_I true Warrior's Drink!Feb 18 16:52
msb_It's an ordeal drug.  You must clench up and hold it in!Feb 18 16:53
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx12RQINX3WZD7WFeb 18 17:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Choosing "Spanish" on customer support lines is more likely to connect you to an American that speaks understandable English. [ http://ur1.ca/gnfzl ]Feb 18 17:06
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 18 17:07
DaemonFChttp://lifehacker.com/choose-the-spanish-option-for-better-customer-service-1525064199Feb 18 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com | Choose the Spanish Option for Better Customer Service [ http://ur1.ca/gnfzp ]Feb 18 17:07
DaemonFCAccording to this article, people who choose "English" are more likely to get their call sent to a foreign call center, while people who choose "Spanish" are more likely to get routed to an American call center agent that actually speaks English quite well.Feb 18 17:07
DaemonFCSo, I will start selecting Spanish to see if I can support American jobs and getting a customer support agent that speaks intelligible English.Feb 18 17:07
DaemonFCI wonder if this trick works when you call Comcast... Feb 18 17:07
DaemonFC*and getFeb 18 17:07
*DaemonFC paid some medical copays...Feb 18 17:16
DaemonFCOuch.Feb 18 17:16
DaemonFCAt least I can put them on my rewards card and get some miles. :PFeb 18 17:16
DaemonFCI couldn't wash my car. The hose was frozen.Feb 18 17:22
DaemonFCI dug up the hose. It should be 56 degrees on Thursday. I can wash the car then.Feb 18 17:23
DaemonFCI hate winter. I have to go to the car wash. I can wash my car by hand for about 50 cents. It costs $10 at the car wash. :PFeb 18 17:23
DaemonFCThe snow is melting at least. It should be above freezing for the next 3 days. All the snow should be gone.Feb 18 17:24
DaemonFCI like to wash the car about once every 2 weeks. It keeps all the road crap and bird shit off of it.Feb 18 17:25
DaemonFCThat stuff will eat right through a car if you don't keep it washed.Feb 18 17:25
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/lync-skype-video-chat-shown-for-the-first-time-coming-later-this-year/Feb 18 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lync-Skype video chat shown for the first time, coming later this year | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gng5y ]Feb 18 17:25
Sosumiwe need an alternative for thatFeb 18 17:26
Sosumibut alsoFeb 18 17:26
Sosumitypical m$Feb 18 17:26
Sosumiwhy not merge both clientsFeb 18 17:26
Sosumiand call it skylyncFeb 18 17:27
Sosumior skylinkFeb 18 17:27
Sosumikind of like crapple had with ichatFeb 18 17:27
Sosumiwhich supported bonjour, thus allowing you to chat with you co-workers on the same networkFeb 18 17:28
Sosumi*yourFeb 18 17:28
Sosumiand skylink actually sounds awesomeFeb 18 17:29
MinceRwhy not indeed, by now it's obvious that lync users don't care about their business secretsFeb 18 17:29
Sosumiif you care about business secrets you don't rely on M$ products nor google servicesFeb 18 17:30
Sosumiso it is okFeb 18 17:31
Sosumijust merge them, one client to do them allFeb 18 17:31
Sosumiskype, lync, jabber and why not? google hangoutsFeb 18 17:32
Sosumiand since tomorrow's going to be another busy dayFeb 18 17:33
SosumiGN :)Feb 18 17:33
msb_Just call it SkyNet.  Fulfill the prophecy!!!Feb 18 17:55
MinceRgnFeb 18 18:04
MinceRskype.NETFeb 18 18:04
MinceRif m$ developed skynet, it wouldn't have gotten anywhereFeb 18 18:04
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DaemonFCI posted this on Indiana Governor Mike Pence's Facebook wall.Feb 18 18:46
DaemonFChttps://eff.org/r.ev71Feb 18 18:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Support the Right to Repair in South Dakota (and Everywhere Else) | Electronic Frontier FoundationFeb 18 18:46
DaemonFCIndiana needs such a law. Of course, any device with proprietary binary-only software is not going to be fully serviceable by the owner*, so we also need a law that makes it illegal to ship a device that will only run firmware that is signed by the company that made the device.Feb 18 18:46
DaemonFCUsers should be free to replace the firmware on their device with software that respects their freedom.Feb 18 18:47
DaemonFCOf course, that would make parasitic companies that are hostile to freedom, such as Microsoft and Apple, very angry.Feb 18 18:47
DaemonFCIf Microsoft gets what it wants, it will eventually make it impossible to turn off Restricted Boot on these new computers that come with uEFI firmware, so that the owner cannot replace the Windows operating system with one that respects their freedom, such as Fedora GNU/Linux.Feb 18 18:47
DaemonFCSo, Indiana also needs to pass a law that makes it illegal for an OEM to restrict a computer to a particular operating system.Feb 18 18:47
DaemonFC*(For example, Ford Motor Company dropped to #26 out of 28 vehicle manufacturers on the Consumer Reports reliability ratings, largely because of problems with MyTouch, which uses proprietary Microsoft software. Of course, nobody should want proprietary software in their car, and especially when it has GPS capabilities and spyware from the car manufacturer. Ford admitted that MyTouch exists to gobble up data on their customers. Other manufacturers Feb 18 18:47
DaemonFCare doing similar things.)Feb 18 18:47
DaemonFCThere was some speculation that Microsoft was going to hire Ford's CEO as their replacement for Ballmer.Feb 18 18:52
DaemonFCThey like to reward executives from other businesses that take a shit all over the good name of their products by imposing Microsoft software onto their customers.Feb 18 18:52
DaemonFChttp://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/hot-pockets-recalled-103642.htmlFeb 18 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.politico.com | Nestle recalls some Hot Pockets - Associated Press - POLITICO.com [ http://ur1.ca/gngrp ]Feb 18 19:12
DaemonFCI ate some of these.Feb 18 19:12
icecrawler<DaemonFC> If Microsoft gets what it wants, it will eventually make it impossible to turn off Restricted Boot on these new computers that come with uEFI firmware, so that the owner cannot replace the Windows operating system with one that respects their freedom, such as Fedora GNU/Linux.Feb 18 19:33
icecrawlerFedora purchased a signing key from Microsoft, you can install Fedora on a surface pro as easily as any other computerFeb 18 19:33
icecrawlerSame with any distro that decides to use the Linux foundation keyFeb 18 19:34
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icecrawlerim told by people in the inner circles at redhat that systemd's intregration in gnome is more about blocking bsd because of clang than it is about controlling linuxFeb 18 19:48
DaemonFCShim was a necessary evil, but it is still evil.Feb 18 20:04
DaemonFCNobody should require Microsoft's permission (which they can revoke!) to use different software on their computer, which is their personal property.Feb 18 20:05
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msb_icecrawler: Would you (or anyone) please explain what this means " systemd's intregration in gnome is more about blocking bsd because of clang than it is about controlling linux".Feb 18 21:01
msb_Does BSD use clang?  Do some Linux people oppose the use of clang?  How do systemd and gnome relate to that?Feb 18 21:05
DaemonFCMonro is such a piece of crap company.Feb 18 21:08
DaemonFCThey send a coupon for a $19.99 oil change and tire rotation.Feb 18 21:08
DaemonFCThen they say "An additional $2.50 waste oil recycling fee applies. A service fee of 9.99% will be added to all service work"Feb 18 21:08
DaemonFCSo by the time you get done, it's actually $25. $1 less than going to Walmart. Feb 18 21:09
DaemonFCSince Android users have the freedom to back up APK files that they have purchased, they can install Flappy Bird to their other devices.Feb 18 21:53
DaemonFCMeanwhile, used iPhones with Flappy Bird installed are going for $900 on eBay because Apple removed customer access to a program that they had paid for, and there's no way to back up your packages.Feb 18 21:53
DaemonFCHa Ha!Feb 18 21:53
DaemonFCLike · · Share · a few seconds ago ·Feb 18 21:53
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DaemonFCSomeone made another post about Indiana becoming the Island Of The Uninsured (every surrounding state is expanding Medicaid, but Indiana is not), so I replied:Feb 18 22:21
DaemonFCEveryone that would otherwise qualify for Medicaid under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act should apply for Medicaid anyway. When they deny you, go through the appeals process. When the appeals process is complete, apply again. If enough people do this, they'll get into a paperwork jam and have to spend lots of state time and state money to clear the backlog. Maybe they'll just give up and take the federal Medicaid expansion money.Feb 18 22:21
DaemonFCshared a link via The Atlantic.Feb 18 22:36
DaemonFC9 seconds agoFeb 18 22:36
DaemonFChttp://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2014/02/how-get-out-parking-tickets/8412/Feb 18 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlanticcities.com | An App That Promises to Get You Out of Parking Tickets - Emily Badger - The Atlantic Cities [ http://ur1.ca/gnhqh ]Feb 18 22:36
DaemonFCI scanned a parking permit into my computer and kept changing the expiration date on it and printing out a new one every month, instead of paying to park in a city lot. That was when I lived in an apartment with no place to park my car. I got away with it for over a year and a half and saved myself a couple hundred dollars during that time. Then I moved.Feb 18 22:36
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icecrawlermsb_ freebsd switched to using llvm/clang instead of gccFeb 18 23:06
msb_icecrawler: Thanks!  Why would Linux people want to block it?Feb 18 23:07
msb_icecrawler: BTW, if you ever see that "mbilk" nick in irc again, please let me know immediately.  mark@cosmicpenguin.comFeb 18 23:09
DaemonFCIndiana's House Republicans sent me an email stating that they were reading books to poor children.Feb 18 23:14
DaemonFCI wonder if it was My Pet Goat, or if they make a delightful series of Ayn Rand childrens books now....Feb 18 23:14
DaemonFCIt turns out that the goat was a worthless taker and so they had it put down.Feb 18 23:14
DaemonFCI was at a restaurant with my mom a few years ago. She asked me what I was eating. I told her "goat". "Goat?", she asked. I replied, "Yeaaaaahhhhh!"Feb 18 23:14
DaemonFCThank you! I'll be here all night.Feb 18 23:14
DaemonFCTime for the prune juice....Feb 18 23:35
DaemonFCmsb_: A warrior's drink!Feb 18 23:35
msb_Keep clenching!  It is a test!Feb 18 23:39
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx33RJQCT0OI3MIFeb 18 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: How Ignorant Are Americans? [ http://ur1.ca/gni47 ]Feb 18 23:56
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 18 23:57
DaemonFC"How Ignorant Are Americans?"Feb 18 23:57
DaemonFCI don't know. Feb 18 23:57
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 19 01:13
DaemonFCI always did laugh at "Hot Pocket" steak. They go on sale for $1.49 a package. or about 74.5 cents per sandwich. What kind of steak did people think they were using? Feb 19 01:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #EU Parliament Negotiations on Net Neutrality Taking a Disastrous Turn http://t.co/PwF7XT14q8 #europe #netneutralityFeb 19 03:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The quest for the perfect Twitter client on Linux http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2014/02/18/twitterclient/ #gnu #linux #twitterFeb 19 03:56
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MinceRgeekingsFeb 19 04:14
msb_MinceR: Hi!Feb 19 04:16
MinceRhayFeb 19 04:16
msb_The "Hot Pocket" discussion above has made me hungry.  A shame to recall a whole year's production because of a few bad cattle.  If better records were kept -- GNU/Linux! -- that should be avoidable.Feb 19 04:22
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msb_A propos bears -- amazing (only 2 minutes long) -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6WWyxK_OaUFeb 19 04:37
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Sosumino comment on the amount of stupidity just witnessed by meFeb 19 06:03
MinceRpatheticFeb 19 06:04
Sosumieven worse, kill it fire before it reproducesFeb 19 06:05
Sosumi*withFeb 19 06:05
MinceRindeedFeb 19 06:06
MinceRthough that would not be sufficient to stop the idiocracyFeb 19 06:06
Sosumitim sculley will be enoughFeb 19 06:23
Sosumihis incompetence is so big that the shipping dates of the trashcan have already slided two or three timeFeb 19 06:25
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SosumiDrPizza the stalkerFeb 19 07:15
Sosumihttp://notreligious.typepad.com/.a/6a00e552e3404e88330133f58100e3970b-450wiFeb 19 07:15
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msb_Sosumi: Please excuse my ignorance.  Is the thing that gay guy is making love to in the "Macternity" pix a Mac Pro 2013?  Where do the hard drives go?   This article doesn't say:  http://www.anandtech.com/show/7603/mac-pro-review-late-2013  Has anyone figured out the cost of a conventional AMD/Intel CPU desktop tower with the same capabilities?Feb 19 08:06
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msb_...running Linux, of course.Feb 19 08:07
SosumisimpleFeb 19 08:07
Sosumicustom built or a nice hp z820 will cost around the sameFeb 19 08:08
MinceRbut will have better capabilities :>Feb 19 08:08
Sosumibe more powerful, upgradeable and not crippled by poor heat dissipationFeb 19 08:08
Sosumialso the buttplug pro externalizes hdds through thunderboltFeb 19 08:09
MinceRlolFeb 19 08:09
MinceRthey couldn't even fit hdds in thereFeb 19 08:09
Sosumithe internal drive is a single pcie ssdFeb 19 08:09
msb_Has anyone remarked that Apple has finally succeeded in polishing a turd?Feb 19 08:10
Sosumion that anandtech review you can see that the trashcan pro failed the stress test as well going above the rated psu wattageFeb 19 08:10
SosumilolFeb 19 08:11
msb_I guess the DVD drive has to go somewhere else too.  Sorry I hadn't read to the end of the Anand article.  It does give a nice DIY comparison.Feb 19 08:23
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msb_I'm trying to think of what anyone could use all that power for on a desktop, and all I come up with is games and video editing (and transcoding).  Neither of which I'm very interested in at the moment.  I guess I'll just keep my 5 year old AMD dual core DIY machine with 8GB RAM, if I can make it stop crashing once a week with error messages pointing to the Nvidia graphics.  Maybe a new graphic card will fix it.  The old one only cost Feb 19 08:31
msb_$150 five years ago.Feb 19 08:31
msb_I'm trying to keep Firefox CPU usage below 40%.  There seems to be some correlation between that and the crashes.  Which most of the time just kill the KDE3 session.Feb 19 08:34
msb_I'm a Firefox abuser.  3 or 4 windows with a dozen or two tabs in each.  Sometimes much more.  Poor thing goes crazy patrolling all those tabs.Feb 19 08:35
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msb_Being low power, by today's standards, its fans are pretty quiet, and it sits on the desk a foot from me, with HDDs and DVD drive.Feb 19 08:38
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436138469640126464Feb 19 09:02
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Sosumiby everything that holy and unholyFeb 19 09:33
Sosumidon't buy the trashcan proFeb 19 09:33
Sosumithere is no consideringFeb 19 09:33
Sosumiany pc similarly speced will mop the floor with that thingFeb 19 09:34
Sosumieven a maxed 2009 and 2010 mac pro will do that tooFeb 19 09:35
MinceRalso, don't buy apple productsFeb 19 09:35
Sosumithe gtx titan black is coming soonFeb 19 09:35
Sosumiand you can put two of those in the old mac proFeb 19 09:36
Sosumiso the trashcan with its 2 years old gpu is obsolete even before it starts being distributed normallyFeb 19 09:37
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Sosumiand did I forget to mention that crapple's opencl implementation is short of what it could be?Feb 19 12:12
Sosumisimply because they fail to implement vendor specific instructionsFeb 19 12:13
Sosumior even work with the vendor to have them implementedFeb 19 12:13
MinceR:)Feb 19 12:13
Sosumiso in short, you end up with up to 20% performance penalty on OSXFeb 19 12:14
Sosumiwhen compared to both gnu/linux and windowsFeb 19 12:14
Sosumieven windows, of which everyone lambasts performs better than osxFeb 19 12:14
Sosumiactually I think that the osx golden years was up until XP's service pack 2Feb 19 12:15
Sosumiafter m$ duct taped some aspects of xpFeb 19 12:16
Sosumilike browsing the net? here's a fly, a virus and a jehova's witnessFeb 19 12:17
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Sosumiand I think they'll probably go into that realm of expensive looking stuffFeb 19 12:25
Sosumialongside brands like bang & ollufsenFeb 19 12:25
Sosumiwhich sell overpriced stuffFeb 19 12:26
Sosumithat you can get better elsewhereFeb 19 12:26
Sosumisame could be said about loweFeb 19 12:26
Sosumiand all you pay is the designFeb 19 12:26
Sosumiand brandFeb 19 12:26
Sosumiwhen probably some discount samsung tv will probably have much better picture quality and overall perform betterFeb 19 12:27
Sosumior some dynaudio or jbl sounding better than the b&o speaker linesFeb 19 12:28
Sosumibut since I'm not interested in those things I really can't sayFeb 19 12:29
Sosumiall I have in fact is a pair of sennheiser h650 headphones with a handmade amplifier and dacFeb 19 12:30
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 19 13:21
DaemonFCI noticed that using bittorrent causes my Comcast cable internet connection to completely reset, hang my web browser, cause my instant messenger accounts to disconnect, and knocks me off of my Internet Relay Chat connections.Feb 19 13:21
DaemonFCI don't know if Comcast is doing it on purpose or if their modem firmware is just garbage. With Comcast, you never know why your expensive broadband connection is as stable as a troubled child on crack.Feb 19 13:21
DaemonFCIf you call Comcast customer support it's like something off of one of those Foamy The Squirrel cartoons, and then they try to tack an additional $60 onto your bill whether they fixed it or not, and no matter what was actually causing the problem. Feb 19 13:21
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Sosumiis comcast dsl?Feb 19 14:06
Sosumior cableFeb 19 14:06
Sosumiin case of it being dsl, he could just buy a dsl modem or gateway and fix the issueFeb 19 14:07
SosumiI've never use operator supplied equipment just because of thatFeb 19 14:08
Sosumi*usedFeb 19 14:08
Sosumiunless ofc, they are actually censuring the trafficFeb 19 14:08
Sosumiand apparently ppl are talking ill of meFeb 19 15:05
*Sosumi hears are on fireFeb 19 15:05
Sosumiher derp, *earFeb 19 15:06
msb_DaemonFC: Are you running Linux?Feb 19 15:52
Sosumihttp://fairewinds.org/uncategorized/csi-fukushimaFeb 19 15:56
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Sosumimore on unit 3Feb 19 15:56
SosumiDaemonFC is an ardent mac loverFeb 19 15:59
DaemonFCSysinfo for 'localhost.localdomain': Running inside KDE 4.12.2 on Fedora 20 (Heisenbug) powered by Linux 3.13.3-201.fc20.x86_64, CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor at 800-3000/3000 MHz, RAM: 2877/7984 MB, Storage: 817/1818 GB, 178 procs, 3.42h upFeb 19 15:59
Sosumi:PFeb 19 16:00
MinceR"no u" would have sufficed, imo :>Feb 19 16:00
DaemonFCTrying to get Debian to make a decision is like asking for a group of those Ents from The Lord of the Rings to decide something.Feb 19 16:03
DaemonFCSeveral hours later, as the orcs and Saruman continue burning down the forest..... "We have decided.....that you are not orcs.". Feb 19 16:03
MinceRit's better to make a good decision slowly than to make a bad one quicklyFeb 19 16:04
MinceRthen again, i'm not sure if they'll make the right decisionFeb 19 16:04
MinceRthey could at least wait until systemd developers mature until they don't dismiss portability, modularity and inputFeb 19 16:05
Sosumidesign a neural network, teach itFeb 19 16:05
Sosumiand then have it make the decision for youFeb 19 16:06
Sosumimuch more reliable than Ent "patience" and probably not bound by biasesFeb 19 16:06
gde33I found how to run ubuntu as an application under windows sort of http://synergy-foss.org/ :)Feb 19 16:08
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gde33it's a wonderful thingFeb 19 16:08
MinceRthat was probably more of slow thought processes and slow communication than "patience"Feb 19 16:08
MinceRgde33: x2x and x2vnc are also useful :>Feb 19 16:09
Sosumiit depends, I thought that even in 2005 you had enough power to simulate portions or models after the human brainFeb 19 16:10
Sosumifaster than the neuron firing in the human brainFeb 19 16:11
MinceRents were portrayed as living more slowly than humansFeb 19 16:11
Sosumithey also lived longer :)Feb 19 16:12
MinceRindeedFeb 19 16:12
gde33you need to ask Gandalf basicallyFeb 19 16:12
MinceRbut so did elves, and they weren't slow :>Feb 19 16:12
Sosumithat makes me think on how pigeons perceive timeFeb 19 16:12
Sosumialways moving so fastFeb 19 16:12
MinceRthink of fliesFeb 19 16:13
Sosumiis for them a day something like 2 weeks?Feb 19 16:13
MinceRdunnoFeb 19 16:13
gde33I was just thinking how bacteria are able to figure things out but they cherish every idea because it takes so much effortFeb 19 16:13
MinceRbacteria don't even thinkFeb 19 16:14
gde33oh but they doFeb 19 16:14
MinceRthey just reproduce very quickly, which also allows them to evolve and adapt very quicklyFeb 19 16:14
gde33just as much as all the other creaturesFeb 19 16:14
Sosumibacteria think?Feb 19 16:14
gde33absolutlyFeb 19 16:14
SosumiI thought they just "survived"Feb 19 16:14
gde33there is also a lot of interspecies communication going on, chemicallyFeb 19 16:14
Sosumiwell ofcFeb 19 16:15
Sosumieven carrots have feelingsFeb 19 16:15
gde33fungi are briliantFeb 19 16:15
gde33take ants, look how advanced they are.Feb 19 16:16
gde33the fugi will do this to the ant http://www.endalldisease.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Ant-Mushroom-Head-EndAllDisease.jpgFeb 19 16:16
gde33grow a dedicated mushroom out of it's headFeb 19 16:16
Sosuminot badFeb 19 16:16
gde33really pwndFeb 19 16:16
gde33when 2 species interact one should wonder who has the pants onFeb 19 16:17
gde33did you ever see a pot smoker standing next to a weed plant?Feb 19 16:17
gde33hahahaFeb 19 16:17
gde33who is in charge?Feb 19 16:18
Sosumithe lil plantFeb 19 16:18
gde33I've smoked enough to be very exited by seeing the plantFeb 19 16:18
gde33it is almost like seeing a pretty womanFeb 19 16:18
Sosumigde33, are you biologist?Feb 19 16:19
SosumilolFeb 19 16:19
Sosumistay out of drugsFeb 19 16:19
Sosumithose things will only kill you in the long termFeb 19 16:19
gde33that is your natural response to the penomenonFeb 19 16:19
gde33dont do it!Feb 19 16:19
gde33you instinctively know about the covert opsFeb 19 16:19
gde33people are going to die anyway lolFeb 19 16:20
gde33the plant is supper old, we are the new speciesFeb 19 16:20
Sosumisome areFeb 19 16:20
Sosumibut at each day that passes folks are finding new ways to prevent and reverse agingFeb 19 16:21
gde33we can evolve better if we extend it a lotFeb 19 16:22
Sosumiand I actually think that the chalange for this century will certainly be the conquering of deathFeb 19 16:22
Sosumias well the birthing of AIFeb 19 16:22
SosumiI actually think both will have to come togetherFeb 19 16:23
gde33sure, it will no doubt be something modest like that.Feb 19 16:23
Sosumidue to the inability of the human to correlate vast amounts of informationFeb 19 16:23
gde33we have lots of things that are still to scary culturallyFeb 19 16:24
Sosumicompared to the portuguese maritime discoveries or the challenge to go the moonFeb 19 16:24
gde33we know that people remember previous lives and that their memories check outFeb 19 16:24
Sosumiit actually seems like a modest goalFeb 19 16:24
gde33dont think we are going to investigate that any time soonFeb 19 16:24
Sosumiprevious lives?Feb 19 16:24
gde33yes, people are able to tap into memories from dead peopleFeb 19 16:25
SosumiI've heard that some memories may be passed geneticallyFeb 19 16:25
gde33we know that in some cases the skull shape matches closely but the research field is largely anecdotalFeb 19 16:25
gde33imagine the skull like a radio dish pointing down :DFeb 19 16:26
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gde33we have lots of idiotic research that is just to hard to believeFeb 19 16:27
gde33things that sound crazy enough not to bother with themFeb 19 16:27
gde33like why do we have a hypnosis mode?Feb 19 16:28
gde33it makes no sense at all to have thatFeb 19 16:28
gde33or experimenter expectation?Feb 19 16:31
gde33wtf is that?Feb 19 16:31
msb_Sosumi: What you call "drugs" -- psychedelics like cannabis at least -- are medicinal plants in our environment which can be very beneficial.Feb 19 16:31
gde33I forgot about that part, how the plant, after taking over the human, starts purging other invadersFeb 19 16:31
gde33like, hey this is my human!Feb 19 16:32
msb_We live in a very anti-human culture that programs us with domination, male-supremacy, greed, etc.  Psychedelics can free up our minds so we can change our programming.  Open Source!Feb 19 16:33
Sosumiho yes those evil malesFeb 19 16:33
gde33wimmen can be even worse when they go thereFeb 19 16:34
msb_No one should dominate anyone else.Feb 19 16:34
SosumiI usually prefer the balanced approachFeb 19 16:35
msb_Our pineal glands make DMT.Feb 19 16:35
Sosumithere are somethings guys do better while there's other stuff that girls are better atFeb 19 16:35
Sosumicertainly you wouldn't leave a women carrying all the shoppings by herself?Feb 19 16:36
Sosuminor slicing lumberFeb 19 16:36
Sosumiand that pineal blab, DMT etcFeb 19 16:37
Sosumijust don't listen to david ikeFeb 19 16:37
Sosuminor to alex jonesFeb 19 16:37
Sosumithere's no green lizard out thereFeb 19 16:37
SosumiI'm actually surprised that icecrawler hasn't jumped in yetFeb 19 16:38
msb_Sosumi: In the long run your corporate info sources will not serve you well.Feb 19 16:38
Sosumiall media is propagandaFeb 19 16:39
Sosumiyou just need to sort out the trashFeb 19 16:39
Sosumikind of when recyclingFeb 19 16:40
msb_Sosumi: For critical thinking you must examine your own mind to find where your beliefs come from, and then explore many sources of information, compare them with your current model of reality, and employ the law of non-contradiction to determine the truth.Feb 19 16:40
Sosumiand now you're sounding like a "new age" teleevangelistFeb 19 16:41
Sosumiif you want truthFeb 19 16:41
Sosumilearn mathFeb 19 16:41
gde33replace critical thinking with objectivityFeb 19 16:41
msb_Sosumi: you're sounding like a put-down artistFeb 19 16:41
Sosuminumbers never lieFeb 19 16:41
gde33true but you can still do the wrong results with numbers Feb 19 16:42
msb_gde33: critical thinking and objectivity are one and the same.  One must think objectively about one's own mind, beliefs, and model of reality.Feb 19 16:42
gde33critical thinking tries to have reality live up to expectationsFeb 19 16:42
gde33it wants an answer more desperatelyFeb 19 16:43
msb_No.  Critical thinking seeks objective truth.Feb 19 16:43
gde33for you perhaps, it is not what I see in people who gather arround the termFeb 19 16:43
msb_Critical thinking = accurate thinking.Feb 19 16:43
gde33it seems more like : proof or it didn't happenFeb 19 16:44
gde33objectivity is more agnostic :PFeb 19 16:44
msb_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinkingFeb 19 16:45
gde33endless doubtingFeb 19 16:45
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gde33'Critical thinking is a tool by which one can come about reasoned conclusions'Feb 19 16:46
msb_Yes.  _Accurate_ reasoned conclusions.Feb 19 16:46
gde33https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_(philosophy)Feb 19 16:46
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gde33A proposition is generally considered objectively true (to have objective truth) when its truth conditions are met and are "mind-independent"—that is, existing freely or independently from a mind (from the thoughts, feelings, ideas, etc. of a sentient subject).Feb 19 16:47
gde33it doesn't account for experience basicallyFeb 19 16:47
gde33Like say god would land his saucer in your garden.Feb 19 16:49
msb_Experiencing isn't reasoning, but experience can give us information that we can reason about.Feb 19 16:49
gde33critical thinking would conclude it cant be himFeb 19 16:49
gde33but that isn't objective at allFeb 19 16:49
gde33it isnt' irrational, it is just to unlikely to even consider it being god himselfFeb 19 16:50
gde33tooFeb 19 16:50
msb_"god" is not a well-defined term.Feb 19 16:51
msb_There's no evidence for the existence of the JCI "god".Feb 19 16:51
gde33sure, but in the thought experiment he is really there :DFeb 19 16:52
msb_And the myth describes Jehovah as a genocidal psychopath.  Not what you'd want for a god.Feb 19 16:53
MinceRgood thing the myth is logically inconsistentFeb 19 16:53
MinceRso you can be sure it's false :>Feb 19 16:53
msb_yepFeb 19 16:53
gde33not at all, it just looks very much like it isFeb 19 16:53
gde33it may look enough like a fish to consider it a fish with great accuracyFeb 19 16:54
gde33like Louis Pasteur's weird ideasFeb 19 16:56
msb_Which were?Feb 19 16:56
gde33tiny creatures that eat youFeb 19 16:56
gde33surgeons should wash their hands between opperationsFeb 19 16:57
gde33correction, Ignaz Semmelweis proposed doctors wash their hands in the year 1847Feb 19 16:58
gde33The theory of diseases was highly influenced by ideas of an imbalance of the basic "four humours" in the body, a theory known as dyscrasia, for which the main treatment was bloodlettings. Feb 19 16:59
gde33before thatFeb 19 16:59
gde33http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HumorismFeb 19 16:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Humorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 19 16:59
MinceRhumorists practice thisFeb 19 17:00
DaemonFChttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=200564030153636&set=a.154022068141166.1073741826.100006001205661&type=1Feb 19 17:00
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DaemonFCPosted this on the governor's facebook wall.Feb 19 17:00
gde33hahaFeb 19 17:01
gde33the chinese give the social support to corporationsFeb 19 17:03
gde33facinating conceptFeb 19 17:03
MinceRapparently so does the usaFeb 19 17:06
MinceR"corporations are people, my friend"Feb 19 17:06
DaemonFChttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=200566150153424Feb 19 17:13
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MinceRhttps://smbc.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/gulpo-decalFeb 19 18:00
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icecrawlerjust finished packaging firefox for centos, that mother fucker is still takes foreverFeb 19 19:31
msb_icecrawler: Hi!  Does it have to be packaged?  I just get it from the website and run it out of my account.Feb 19 19:36
msb_It upgrades itself there, too.Feb 19 19:36
msb_updatesFeb 19 19:37
DaemonFChttp://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/46240800.jpgFeb 19 20:39
DaemonFCAnother one I'm gonna post to our governor's wall.Feb 19 20:39
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icecrawlermsb_ im the guy who does all that work for youFeb 19 21:08
icecrawlersoftware doesn't package itselfFeb 19 21:08
msb_Well, I use OpenSuse, not Centos, but I know.  However, I get Firefox from its website, not the Suse repo.Feb 19 21:09
DaemonFCWhy compile Firefox for CentOS?Feb 19 21:13
DaemonFCMozilla builds the official binaries on CentOS.Feb 19 21:14
icecrawlerso it takes advantage of system libsFeb 19 21:14
DaemonFCIt stands to reason they'll work fine.Feb 19 21:14
icecrawlerthey just use our packages actuallyFeb 19 21:14
DaemonFCWell, if you want to use system libs, you might as well use GCC options to harden the binaries.Feb 19 21:14
DaemonFC:)Feb 19 21:14
DaemonFCDoes CentOS have a GCC that can protect against format string exploits?Feb 19 21:15
icecrawleryesFeb 19 21:15
DaemonFChttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FormatSecurityFeb 19 21:16
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icecrawlerin centos7Feb 19 21:16
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icecrawlerjono, ubuntu is going down mother fuckerFeb 19 21:21
icecrawlercentos is gonna burry debianFeb 19 21:21
icecrawlerredhat will pwn Mark ShuttlecockFeb 19 21:21
icecrawlerfor a GNU dawn!Feb 19 21:22
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3658619Feb 20 02:42
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schestowitz__"It'd be about damned time they started doing this."Feb 20 02:42
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3645189Feb 20 02:42
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schestowitz__"Oh yeah, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#MP3Player "Feb 20 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | Words to Avoid (or Use with Care) Because They Are Loaded or Confusing - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/gnt5w ]Feb 20 02:43
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436417551648948224 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436419314623975424Feb 20 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Raising Linux to Grow Open Source http://t.co/nPvIfQpMRj #gnu #linux #freeswFeb 20 03:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Searching for the signal of open #standards amid the growing noise of agile #uk #egovFeb 20 03:45
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3666231  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3666235Feb 20 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "law in place that could fine parents $100 for smoking while their kids are in the car with them." http://www.chicagonow.com/bug-coffee/2014/02/tickets-fines-smoking-around-kids/Feb 20 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.chicagonow.com | $100 fine for smoking while your kids are in the car with you - There's a Bug In My Coffee [ http://ur1.ca/gntkb ]Feb 20 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UC & "Alcatel-Lucent to open sauce all Plan 9 software under the GNU General Public License, Version 2." http://news.techeye.net/software/plan-9-is-open-saucedFeb 20 03:52
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SosumilolFeb 20 05:39
Sosumigtx titan black working on osx after a couple hours from being releasedFeb 20 05:40
Sosumitrashcan pro beaten againFeb 20 05:40
Sosumiho no, according to the crapple evangelistsFeb 20 05:40
Sosumipros use underclocked versions of cards released two years agoFeb 20 05:41
MinceR:>Feb 20 06:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436463891938549760  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436463362869043200 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436463196900458496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436447236156035072Feb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: BitTorrent's revamped Android apps let you download just the files you want http://t.co/e98zKQjc10 #torrent #sharing #androidFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.engadget.com | BitTorrent's revamped Android apps let you download just the files you wantFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Red Hat Increases its Focus on OpenStack Partnerships http://t.co/unCZpFbM5x #redhat #openstackFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://ostatic.com/page_not_found )Feb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu phones arriving in 2014 from Meizu and BQ Readers http://t.co/tsSsn91qO0 spreading #gnu #linuxFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.engadget.com | Ubuntu phones arriving in 2014 from Meizu and BQ ReadersFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux job market heats up http://t.co/znHy2Bqm0a studying #gnu #linux pays offFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Linux job market heats up | ZDNetFeb 20 06:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436447003179249664  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436446683732643840  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436446444791562241    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436446240650579968Feb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Who helps your Linux distribution run smoothly? Thank a packager today http://t.co/yFYP4jqalC repos a strength of #gnu #linuxFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com | Thank a Linux packager today | opensource.comFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: French local politicians support free software https://t.co/4NCFMePN8B #france #freedom #softwareFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu | French local politicians support free software | JoinupFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tizen-based Samsung smartwatch rumored http://t.co/m5c5cRTvJa #linux on the wrists. #tizenFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Tizen-based Samsung smartwatch rumored ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: What Makes a Classic Linux Desktop 'Classic'? http://t.co/qOQIr7OLWc #gnu #linuxFeb 20 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.datamation.com | What Makes a Classic Linux Desktop 'Classic'? - DatamationFeb 20 06:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436446108924252160  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436445499668037632  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436445309670293504  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436444835021852672Feb 20 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #OpenDaylight : Open Source Programming to the Software-Defined Network http://t.co/yLtNWHnjYP #sdn #linux #vmFeb 20 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.smartbear.com | OpenDaylight: Open Source Programming to the Software-Defined NetworkFeb 20 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Samsung leads Android pack in enterprise, but Lenovo looms http://t.co/vLAWeL7tp4 #samsung #lenovo #android #linuxFeb 20 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Samsung leads Android pack in enterprise, but Lenovo looms | ZDNetFeb 20 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Steam OS, client update brings audio improvements http://t.co/1wjuj0fFGp #steamos #debian #gnu #linux #gamesFeb 20 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Steam OS, client update brings audio improvements - MuktwareFeb 20 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Phusion Releases Robust Docker Base Image http://t.co/YnFOlwhLpC #docker #gnu #linuxFeb 20 06:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436444635796627456Feb 20 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Free cloud access to IBM Power servers for Linux Developers http://t.co/VDZWBAAxiU #ibm #gnu #linuxFeb 20 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxjournal.com | Linux Journal | The Original Magazine of the Linux CommunityFeb 20 06:38
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schestowitzhttp://www.fakingnews.firstpost.com/2014/02/fb-to-make-one-final-acquisition-to-buy-nsa/Feb 20 06:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fakingnews.firstpost.com | Facebook to make one final acquisition, to buy NSA | Faking News [ http://ur1.ca/gnul7 ]Feb 20 06:49
Sosumifacebook can't buy its parent companyFeb 20 06:54
Sosumiaka the NSAFeb 20 06:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436472945633153024 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436472227123703808  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436471432663793664  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436471055520374784Feb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA snooping continues to draw ire http://t.co/9onU2fxE5H http://t.co/YAXW1DwEGiFeb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsreview.com | Chico News & Review - Stop NSA snooping - Sifter - Local Stories - February 20, 2014Feb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.centralfloridafuture.com/opinion/americans-must-fight-back-against-nsa-invasions-of-privacy-1.2856888#.UwXvoo7dPro )Feb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Homeland Security wants to be the NSA of car snooping http://t.co/WP7vodLjgr cars: another tracking device, sometimes with microphonesFeb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> theweek.com | Homeland Security wants to be the NSA of car snooping - The WeekFeb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #nsa says it's an octopus that wants to spy on us from space http://t.co/AO33lGz6nn extra-terrestrial empireFeb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dailycollegian.com | NSA reaches its tentacles into space : The Daily CollegianFeb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Julian #Assange on Being Placed on NSA "Manhunting" List and Secret Targeting of #WikiLeaks Supporters http://t.co/lgpvVLTdqy videoFeb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.truth-out.org | Julian Assange on Being Placed on NSA "Manhunting" List and Secret Targeting of WikiLeaks SupportersFeb 20 07:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436470683388764160  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436469990074884096  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436469314171191296  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436468712968040448Feb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #NSA Didn’t Like The Movie "Enemy Of The State" http://t.co/LxrAZyA67X not a bad movie, seen it weeks agoFeb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.buzzfeed.com | The NSA Didn't Like The Movie "Enemy Of The State"Feb 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 'I think it took Americans a long time to realize how upset German public is' http://t.co/XI0u4Csuxt #nsa #droNSAFeb 20 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wnd.com | NSA antics prompt ally to turn spies loose on U.S.Feb 20 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Photography as a revolutionary act in land of the brave http://t.co/wjJBUeakfjFeb 20 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theverge.com | Seeing secrets: Trevor Paglen on photographing the NSA’s headquarters | The VergeFeb 20 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Feinstein would have loved the #stasi http://t.co/vyvHcm6inaFeb 20 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.latimes.com | Sen. Dianne Feinstein defends NSA and need for intelligence gathering - latimes.comFeb 20 07:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436468231784906753  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436467860966486016  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436467608389709824  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436465592238104576Feb 20 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Snowden...what he described as a government growing so secretive as to imperil American democracy." http://t.co/qNqPHSIcsR videoFeb 20 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> swampland.time.com | NSA: Edward Snowden Congratulates Chelsea Manning | TIME.comFeb 20 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: This new satire would be funny and almost believable if it said #NSA had bought #facebook http://t.co/KpGtVcVr8y in a way, it didFeb 20 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: We need to spy on citizens, to "obey" the law (this is how tyrannies work: you MIGHT be a criminal, hence no privacy) http://t.co/udYZP37wrBFeb 20 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsmax.com | Federal Government May Have to Save Old Phone Records Collected by NSAFeb 20 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA weighs enlarging collection of Americans' phone records: media http://t.co/xW2FZMUvgy ... https://t.co/U4UcWRziwGFeb 20 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.xinhuanet.com | NSA weighs enlarging collection of Americans' phone records: media - Xinhua | English.news.cnFeb 20 07:22
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schestowitzhttp://njjewishnews.com/article/21623/we-helped-kill-bad-ideas#.UwX0P47dProFeb 20 07:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-njjewishnews.com | ‘We helped kill bad ideas’ | NJJN [ http://ur1.ca/gnuvi ]Feb 20 07:26
schestowitzliertally killFeb 20 07:26
schestowitz*literallyFeb 20 07:26
schestowitzmore of the nonsense http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/air-force-pilots-are-learning-to-fly-blind-against-chinese-electromagnetic-strikesFeb 20 07:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-motherboard.vice.com | Air Force Pilots Are Learning to Fly Blind Against Chinese Electromagnetic Strikes | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/gnuvo ]Feb 20 07:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477338986225664  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477622948986880  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477808010067968   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436477973693485056Feb 20 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Congress Unconscionably Silent on Obama's Constitutional Crimes http://t.co/upxVOayeAS #drones #droNSA #obamaFeb 20 07:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why is the world turning a blind eye to US drone http://t.co/O6ZD02crUq ... https://t.co/UNZhsy3dHCFeb 20 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pakistantoday.com.pk | Why is the world turning a blind eye to US drone strikes? | Pakistan TodayFeb 20 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joindiaspora.com | Why is the world ...Feb 20 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Report: Yemen drone strike possibly violated international law http://t.co/Ia8OLG2DDU "possibly"?!Feb 20 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> america.aljazeera.com | Report: Yemen drone strike possibly violated international law | Al Jazeera AmericaFeb 20 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Stewart Blasts Obama on Drones: He’s the ‘All-Time Leader in Outside Battlefield Sky-Killing!’ http://t.co/04LiXqjH1l peace prize?!Feb 20 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mediaite.com | Stewart Blasts Obama on Drones: He’s the ‘All-Time Leader in Outside Battlefield Sky-Killing!’ | MediaiteFeb 20 07:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436479436259880960  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436480784808280064  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436481355330117632Feb 20 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #droNSA lie http://t.co/ySj7wVmCwS http://t.co/RMBm2KTZEE http://t.co/N8oAMRyzE8 http://t.co/MoEapppHPtFeb 20 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hrw.org | US: Yemen Drone Strike May Violate Obama Policy | Human Rights WatchFeb 20 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.todayszaman.com | New report contradicts US version of deadly drone strike - Today's Zaman, your gateway to Turkish daily newsFeb 20 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> english.alarabiya.net | HRW urges U.S. to probe deadly drone strike in Yemen - Al Arabiya NewsFeb 20 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.yahoo.com | Report: US drone may have killed dozen civilians - Yahoo NewsFeb 20 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: UK shared ops room where drone targets were identified – Yemen president http://t.co/6PtghoDhbg #gchq #droNSA #assassinationFeb 20 07:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "UK, Germany, Australia, and other NATO partners support US drone strikes through intelligence-sharing." http://t.co/48VNMkQbDRFeb 20 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalresearch.ca | Complaint Filed at International Criminal Court Over NATO Allies’ Complicity in US Drone Strikes | Global ResearchFeb 20 07:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436483198261149696   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436483651560542208   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436484105006755840    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436484384745848832Feb 20 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is the CIA Messing With Venezuela? http://t.co/QqKOuUPccl "Democracy and covert machinations on the scale we see today are incompatible."Feb 20 07:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Former #cia analyst cannot stage silent protest against CIA http://t.co/Hnsbw2BXxwFeb 20 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.countercurrents.org | Former CIA Analyst Ray McGovern Sues State Dept. For Putting Him On Watch ListFeb 20 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Snowden: Over-classification leads to decline of democracy http://t.co/315eAFJ32X secret society breeds distrust, rogue behaviourFeb 20 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rt.com | Snowden: Over-classification leads to decline of democracy — RT NewsFeb 20 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It is not impossible that Venezuela protests are grassroots, but due to past coup attempts by CIA one cannot know for sure. Loss of truth.Feb 20 07:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436488627145961472Feb 20 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday News: The Descent to #Totality http://t.co/xF8XskdLnW so now even silent protest is illegalFeb 20 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday News: The Descent to Totality | TechrightsFeb 20 08:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436488932961054720Feb 20 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: We are probably not far away from the point of jail time for merely reading a book or a Web page in the UK and US (maybe central EU also)Feb 20 08:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436489346464886784Feb 20 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In #facebook politicians and Western armies can openly call for assassination of people; but for us mere people even #activism means FB ban.Feb 20 08:15
gde33lolFeb 20 08:21
gde33I would totally confess to reading a book and demand the highest possible penalty for it, 1000 years solitary wouldn't be enough, I would NEVER learn.Feb 20 08:22
gde33But I wouldn't be against all censorship.Feb 20 08:25
msb_This article -- Is the CIA Messing With Venezuela? -- is slanted in two ways.  First, it takes as perfectly OK the idea that California, Texas and Florida will soon be controlled by foreign nationals -- illegal aliens from Mexico (and I guess Cuba).  Feb 20 08:44
msb_Second -- "the uber-rich “military industrial complex” behind the GOP agenda is abandoning the ballot box as the way they intend to rule going forward".  Obama has also abandoned the ballot boxes that elected Congress, and said he will enact whatever legislation he wants via executive orders.Feb 20 08:46
msb_Not that I favor either side of the OBPP -- One Big Property Party.Feb 20 08:47
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msbHere's a nice map of Europe showing the location of Ukraine:  http://www.feriasalimentarias.com/worldfood-ukraine/ukraine.gifFeb 20 11:41
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Sosumithe EU just imposed sanctions on ukraineFeb 20 12:31
SosumiI wander if they are that dumb to impose "economical warfare" (because that is what sanctions mean)Feb 20 12:32
Sosumion a distressed countryFeb 20 12:32
Sosumiimpose, no, Feb 20 12:33
Sosumiactually, declare economical warfareFeb 20 12:33
Guest63015https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3667498  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3667936  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668023Feb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Verizon Makes the Death of #NetNeutrality in the US More Official http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/war-on-publishers/ #verizon #internetFeb 20 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Samsung Capitulates to Rights Violations Amid Undermined Federal Laws and Obligatory Kill Switches http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/samsung-oppression/Feb 20 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: No Need for #Microsoft Inside GNU/Linux, Demand for Microsoft/Windows is Diminishing http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/steam-os-and-trends/Feb 20 12:44
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Guest63015https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668057  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668172  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668295Feb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Free Software News Roundup: Careers, Liberations, and Lots More http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/careers-liberation-with-foss/ #freesw #opensourceFeb 20 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Anti-’Terror’ Squads for the War on SharingFeb 20 12:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Security News: Education, DDoS, Linksys, SpamAssassin Release… http://techrights.org/2014/02/20/security-news-2014/Feb 20 12:44
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Guest63015https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668321Feb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/63481Feb 20 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:44
Sosumialso if you buy Lacie HDDsFeb 20 13:06
Sosumiwell don'tFeb 20 13:06
Sosumithey just introduced new modelsFeb 20 13:07
Sosumiall featuring Seagate insidesFeb 20 13:07
Sosumiso they went from hitachi deskstars/ultrastars to SeagateFeb 20 13:08
SosumilawlFeb 20 13:08
msbCRG article says Ukraine rebels are fascists: http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-and-the-rebirth-of-fascism-in-europe/5366852Feb 20 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Ukraine and the Rebirth of Fascism in Europe | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gnxfp ]Feb 20 13:27
schestowitz__msb: many areFeb 20 13:28
schestowitz__I used to think it was just BBC et al. spinning rebellion as NaziFeb 20 13:29
schestowitz__But people from there mostly say the same -- that it's quite out of handFeb 20 13:29
schestowitz__!google leak us fuck europe ukraineFeb 20 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - BBC News - Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26079957Feb 20 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - "F**k The EU" - US State Department Blasts Europe; Revealed As ... | http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-06/fuck-eu-us-state-department-blasts-europe-revealed-alleged-mastermind-behind-ukraineFeb 20 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - US official apologises to EU counterparts for undiplomatic language ... | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/06/us-ukraine-russia-eu-victoria-nulandFeb 20 13:29
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU ... | http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/07/us-usa-ukraine-tape-idUSBREA1601G20140207Feb 20 13:29
msbschestowitz__: I've found CRG to be a reliable source for "alternative" politcal news.Feb 20 13:29
msb...i.e., not govt/corporate propagandaFeb 20 13:30
schestowitz__it's mostly good, hence demonisedFeb 20 13:31
schestowitz__See the wikipedia pages about the site and its founderFeb 20 13:31
schestowitz__hack jobs... designed merely to discreditFeb 20 13:32
schestowitz__nd watch where most of the complaints come fromFeb 20 13:32
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3666732Feb 20 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #OpenDaylight : O...Feb 20 13:35
schestowitz__""Even Microsoft, yes Microsoft, is getting it. When I spoke recently with .."|Feb 20 13:35
msbCRG's Michel Chossudovsky is a 9-11 "truther".  (like me)Feb 20 13:36
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3666231Feb 20 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "law in place tha...Feb 20 13:37
schestowitz__"Good. The person who wrote this article sounds like a tobacco PR flack when talking about "personal decisions" and other BS. People are fined for not having a proper seat for their kids. I'd like them to be fined every time they blow smoke on other people. I don't even like being stuck behind a smoker as I drive - it makes me feel sick. Being stuck inside that car as a kid, from what a friend tells me, is miserable and the worst of Feb 20 13:37
schestowitz__the second hand smoke. Every kid will be happy that they get a small break from that."Feb 20 13:37
schestowitz__msb: nopeFeb 20 13:37
schestowitz__he's described as suchFeb 20 13:37
schestowitz__because of people who write in his siteFeb 20 13:37
schestowitz__he -- asaik like me-- thinks there were lapses in intel and responseFeb 20 13:37
schestowitz__i don't think he actually wrote himself about some of the claims people make about the tower's collapse, unless you can prove otherwiseFeb 20 13:38
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667067Feb 20 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | 'I think it took ...Feb 20 13:38
schestowitz__"I don't think most people have a clue."Feb 20 13:38
schestowitz__bFeb 20 13:38
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667184Feb 20 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "UK, Germany, Aus...Feb 20 13:38
schestowitz__sick"77Feb 20 13:38
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667090Feb 20 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | The #NSA Didn’t L...Feb 20 13:39
schestowitz__They might actually like that propaganda drivelthat is person of interest (equating privacy with secrecy)."77"Feb 20 13:39
msb"criticized Chussodovsky's thesis and views — namely: that the U.S. had knowledge of the September 11 attacks before they happened;" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_ChossudovskyFeb 20 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Michel Chossudovsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/glew9 ]Feb 20 13:39
schestowitz__There is a new Costner film coming, it will manufacture  consent for assassinations, like those of DroNSAFeb 20 13:39
schestowitz__"|I wonder how they liked the TV show person of interest. Although they weren't mentioned literally."Feb 20 13:39
schestowitz__msb: different from your viewsFeb 20 13:40
schestowitz__there's an attempt to lump all 9/11 analysis critics wth laser shit and aliens and whatnotFeb 20 13:41
schestowitz__to say that the US claimed the towers had fallen before they did it separate from claiming these got demolished by US govFeb 20 13:41
msbMy 9/11 analysis has nothing to do with  "laser shit and aliens and whatnot".Feb 20 13:42
schestowitz__But you're lumped together with a loaded viewFeb 20 13:42
schestowitz__And the whole drama which is "Bush getting told at a school of what had just happened"Feb 20 13:43
schestowitz__It's like a movie plotFeb 20 13:43
msbIn fact, I show how the gang that says that stuff are running a COINTELPRO operation against the real 911 researchers.Feb 20 13:43
schestowitz__But that doesn't mean it actually was a prepared plotFeb 20 13:43
schestowitz__these people are "dangerous"Feb 20 13:43
schestowitz__They are critical of the govFeb 20 13:43
schestowitz__and many are US-basedFeb 20 13:44
msbhttp://cosmicpenguin.com/911/disinfo.htmlFeb 20 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The No-WTC-Planes/Video-Fakery/Energy-Beams Disinformation Gang [ http://ur1.ca/gnxmb ]Feb 20 13:44
schestowitz__so they are basically dangerous to Power even it they're wrong Feb 20 13:44
msbhttp://cosmicpenguin.com/911/Feb 20 13:44
schestowitz__1google congress us nine percent\Feb 20 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli GovernmentsFeb 20 13:44
schestowitz__!google congress us nine percentFeb 20 13:44
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Congressional Approval Sinks to Record Low: 9% - Gallup.Com | http://www.gallup.com/poll/165809/congressional-approval-sinks-record-low.aspxFeb 20 13:44
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - The 9%: Congress's Approval Rating Hits the Single Digits | TIME.com | http://swampland.time.com/2013/11/12/the-9-congress-approval-rating-hits-the-single-digits/Feb 20 13:44
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Congressional Performance - Rasmussen Reports™ | http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_performanceFeb 20 13:44
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Congressional approval at all-time low of 9%, according to new CBS ... | http://www.cbsnews.com/news/congressional-approval-at-all-time-low-of-9-according-to-new-cbs-news-new-york-times-poll/Feb 20 13:44
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667333Feb 20 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | We are probably n...Feb 20 13:45
msbRead my main 911 page.  It explains what happened in simple terms with implanted conventional explosives.Feb 20 13:45
schestowitz__"Brazil has glimpses on that http://is.gd/1KlrAV "Feb 20 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-is.gd | is.gd - Shortened URLFeb 20 13:45
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667498Feb 20 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Verizon Makes the...Feb 20 13:45
schestowitz__"This is not the first time Netflix has been extorted by ISPs, but it is depressing they must pay again. Comcast successfully demanded money from them to avoid interference previously. Like all extortion, it never ends and ISPs "manage" traffic from Netflix. My own upload is also crippled. How disgusting. Because my ISP is dishonest, I pay them as little as I can."Feb 20 13:45
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3667498Feb 20 13:45
schestowitz__"We should really get independent from ISPs; There's no need for them, the internet would work nicely without them and even better."Feb 20 13:45
msbI can't help people "lumping me together" with those I totally disagree with, publicly.Feb 20 13:46
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/conversations?conversation_id=43178Feb 20 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Diaspora* / Sign in [ http://ur1.ca/4c80w ]Feb 20 13:46
schestowitz__"Hi, I read a post by you some while ago about secure browsing, where you said that startpage.com and duckduckgo.com are not as secured as they were. I forgot what you proposed instead of them. Can you please please tell me what it was, I can't find that post, it's been some while since then :("Feb 20 13:46
msbMost people don't know how to think accurately.Feb 20 13:46
schestowitz__I still haven't found a substitute for inquick.Feb 20 13:46
schestowitz__ixquickFeb 20 13:47
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436563467815092224  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436563942035709952  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436564073283858432  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436565287471972352Feb 20 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Hardware freedom day is weeks away http://t.co/KSDThPD90xFeb 20 13:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "The Maduro administration has responded by cracking down on what it claims as being foreign interference online." https://t.co/ALs36GljU1Feb 20 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org | Venezuela's Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout | Electronic Frontier FoundationFeb 20 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #openbsd fund-raising close to the goal http://t.co/Fx333XpQw7Feb 20 13:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Steam's Linux game count explodes in one year, big publishers still absent http://t.co/TBIyFhOx2o #steam #gnu #linuxFeb 20 13:48
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msbschestowitz__: Whom are you quoting?  "Hi, I read a post by you some while ago about secure browsing..."Feb 20 13:49
schestowitz__someone from D*Feb 20 13:56
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schestowitz__http://uncrunched.com/2014/02/19/fail-fail-win-never-give-up/Feb 20 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uncrunched.com | Fail Fail Win: Never Give Up | Uncrunched [ http://ur1.ca/gnxu0 ]Feb 20 14:10
schestowitz__"Maduro's fighting a tough battle against the CIA"Feb 20 14:10
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668463Feb 20 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "The Maduro admin...Feb 20 14:10
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668647  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668663  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668704 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3668717Feb 20 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Linux – The Top 5 Lightweight Distros of 2014 http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/02/linux-the-top-5-lightweight-distros-of-2014/ #gnu #linuxFeb 20 14:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pico scopes now run Linux http://www.newelectronics.co.uk/electronics-news/pico-scopes-now-run-linux/59659/ #pico #linuxFeb 20 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newelectronics.co.uk | Pico scopes now run Linux [ http://ur1.ca/gnxwv ]Feb 20 14:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Embedded World: Silica dev boards run Linux http://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/design/embedded-systems/embedded-world-silica-dev-boards-run-linux-2014-02/ #silica #linux #embeddedFeb 20 14:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Will Chrome OS and Android dominate the 2014 Linux desktop? http://www.ciol.com/ciol/news/209348/will-chrome-os-android-dominate-2014-linux-desktop #android #chromeos #gnu #linuxFeb 20 14:17
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668720Feb 20 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Will Chrome OS an...Feb 20 14:33
schestowitz__I think they already do!"77"Feb 20 14:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436584971353202688  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436585279705853952  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436585457410121729  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436585960634318848\Feb 20 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Apple 'snapped up' sapphire displays, says Canonical founder http://t.co/I9BVRvJ1R8 #apple #gnu #linux #ubuntu #greedFeb 20 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.cnet.com | Apple 'snapped up' sapphire displays, says Canonical founder | Apple - CNET NewsFeb 20 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux 3.14 File-System HDD Benchmarks http://t.co/cPiNyNHzJ0 #linux #benchmark #kernelFeb 20 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Linux 3.14 File-System HDD BenchmarksFeb 20 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Walloon e-government should prefer open source https://t.co/CMHNzfY7sj #egov #freeswFeb 20 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Walloon e-government should prefer open source | JoinupFeb 20 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Say goodbye free time, Steam for Linux content rises 900% http://t.co/oQC5ZpbUdA #steamos #gnu #linux #gamesFeb 20 14:49
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436586167614849024 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436586720675766272 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436586944790032384 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436587380473339904 Feb 20 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Apple Veteran Named PayPal’s First Head of 'Open' Software http://t.co/iJz0q8y68T she also wrote GPL-hostile licence, helped #billgatesFeb 20 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | Apple Veteran Named PayPal's First Head of Open Source Software | Wired Enterprise | Wired.comFeb 20 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Joyent Partners with #Canonical on Customized Ubuntu as a Cloud Service http://t.co/tf80dRUowp #gnu #linuxFeb 20 14:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Teachers Romania oblivious about open source https://t.co/YxdhFKmlu1 #romania is quite the story of #microsoft interventionFeb 20 14:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Free, Open #Enea Linux taps Yocto and Linaro code http://t.co/ecWcEm7mJ5 "community-backed Open Enea #Linux platform"Feb 20 14:50
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436587913942671360 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436588093370810368Feb 20 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open source for Flanders' Open Data Platform https://t.co/WHjjMm9iu4 #opendata #sharingFeb 20 14:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Visa, MasterCard start using Android for mobile payments http://t.co/80Znd5khuX #android #linuxFeb 20 14:50
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schestowitz__MinceR: links of interest, I thought...Feb 20 14:57
schestowitz__while Toby's bots are awayFeb 20 14:57
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668720Feb 20 15:04
schestowitz__"I hope not!"Feb 20 15:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 1 in 4 in US Unaware the Earth Orbits the Sun http://t.co/rq32O1dAmn "66 percent of European Union residents answered that one correctly."Feb 20 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> newsfeed.time.com | 1 in 4 Americans Think Sun Revolves Around Earth: Study | TIME.comFeb 20 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Krita will soon be available on Steam http://t.co/JG1yrOnOpC #freesw on #steam - awesome! #kde #gnu #linuxFeb 20 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Krita will soon be available on Steam - MuktwareFeb 20 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Possible Summer Improvements To The GCC Compiler http://t.co/I8RrVCWK6I #gcc #gnuFeb 20 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Possible Summer Improvements To The GCC CompilerFeb 20 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A Look into the Open Source Hardware Community http://t.co/tvKtrv9Qls #openhardware #freedom #hackingFeb 20 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.open-electronics.org | A Look into the Open Source Hardware Community | Open ElectronicsFeb 20 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Systemd 209 Is A Massive Release, Readies Kdbus http://t.co/qSzzPFJQ8h #systemd #linux #kdbusFeb 20 15:22
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schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436594479165104129 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436594895856607232  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436596035717431296  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436596156354027521Feb 20 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Five Key Features of a Project Designed for Open Collaboration http://t.co/wgvTaw1m5C #freedom #sharing #collaborationFeb 20 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Five Key Features of a Project Designed for Open Collaboration | Linux.comFeb 20 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #WhatsApp becomes part of #prism which helps #droNSA decide who to assassinate based on metadata http://t.co/3aisYiHklpFeb 20 15:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: You'll NEVER guess who's building the first Ubuntu phones in 2014 http://t.co/Fi8uaKsAvJ http://t.co/lNu7TVeyIk #ubuntuFeb 20 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | You'll NEVER guess who's building the first Ubuntu phones in 2014 • The RegisterFeb 20 15:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Muktware becoming like the new The H... KDE is helping an Australian wine maker, time to get drunk http://t.co/470lbwcMyp #kde #gnu #linuxFeb 20 15:23
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schestowitz__"I hope not!"Feb 20 15:25
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668828Feb 20 15:26
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schestowitz__'I don't have a lot of time but it's nice to have choices..."Feb 20 15:26
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668948Feb 20 16:19
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schestowitz__"All your contacts are belong to US"Feb 20 16:20
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schestowitz__"Good thing, I never used it in spite of the peer pressure. ;)"Feb 20 16:20
schestowitz__https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsAppFeb 20 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nl.wikipedia.org | WhatsApp - WikipediaFeb 20 16:20
schestowitz__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsAppFeb 20 16:21
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schestowitz__"German Tech site The H demonstrated how to use WhatsAPI to hijack any WhatsApp account on September 14, 2012.[32] Shortly after, a legal threat to WhatsAPI's developers was alleged, characterized by The H as "an apparent reaction" to security reports, and WhatsAPI's source code was taken down for some days.[33] The WhatsAPI team has since returned to active development"Feb 20 16:21
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schestowitz__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_KoumFeb 20 16:32
schestowitz__"In 1997 Jan Koum was hired by Yahoo as an infrastructure engineer, shortly after he met Brian Acton while working at Ernst & Young as a security tester[5]. Over the next nine years, they worked at Yahoo. In September 2007 Koum and Acton left Yahoo and took a year off, traveling around South America and playing ultimate frisbee. Both applied, and failed, to work at Facebook. In January 2009, he bought an iPhone and realized that the Feb 20 16:32
schestowitz__then seven-month old App Store was about to spawn a whole new industry of apps. He visited his friend Alex Fishman and talked about of an app over[5]. Koum almost immediately chose the name WhatsApp because it sounded like “what’s up,” and a week later on his birthday, Feb. 24, 2009, he incorporated WhatsApp Inc. in California[5]."Feb 20 16:32
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoumFeb 20 16:32
schestowitz__writing in RussianFeb 20 16:32
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/433084413325238272Feb 20 16:32
schestowitz__So it's actually a US company staying in the USFeb 20 16:32
schestowitz__not a new addition for the NSAFeb 20 16:32
schestowitz__http://zyalt.livejournal.com/983675.htmlFeb 20 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jan Koum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 20 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twitter.com | jan koum (jankoum) on TwitterFeb 20 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: @TypaHTaeB можете прислать мне более подробную информацию на мыло? jan собака http://t.co/RBnRYbqz9F … спасибо.Feb 20 16:32
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schestowitz__http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2014/02/19/exclusive-inside-story-how-jan-koum-built-whatsapp-into-facebooks-new-19-billion-baby/Feb 20 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Exclusive: The Rags-To-Riches Tale Of How Jan Koum Built WhatsApp Into Facebook's New $19 Billion Baby - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gnyw5 ]Feb 20 16:36
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/425891893298208768Feb 20 16:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: Who the fuck is Diana Chub and why does german wikipedia entry for WhatsApp says she founded WhatsApp? #confused http://t.co/ZpllpAxfaJFeb 20 16:37
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/394259718606053376Feb 20 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: Every day our users share over 400 million photos via WhatsApp... #erlang #freebsdFeb 20 16:38
schestowitz__NSA wantsFeb 20 16:38
schestowitz__and fuckerfaceFeb 20 16:39
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/316961998304845824Feb 20 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: WhatsApp Messenger: Made in USA. Land of the free and the home of the brave.Feb 20 16:39
schestowitz__no sarcasm?Feb 20 16:39
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/jankoum/status/262099630773399552Feb 20 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: New York bathroom http://t.co/p4ceFVxBFeb 20 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jankoum: New York bathroom http://t.co/p4ceFVxBFeb 20 16:40
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schestowitz__http://www.muktware.com/2014/02/google-fiber-may-roll-additional-34-new-cities/21371Feb 20 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.muktware.com | Google Fiber may roll out to an additional 34 new cities - Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gnz0u ]Feb 20 17:01
schestowitz__BT does that too here, but it's used for surveillanceFeb 20 17:01
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436611846637109250  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436615080072208384 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436625735391145984Feb 20 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "German Tech site The H demonstrated how to use WhatsAPI to hijack any WhatsApp account on September 14, 2012" http://t.co/wh22sxtV0vFeb 20 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Photos from #ukraine http://t.co/FjhESmnQVRFeb 20 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Updated TDF Board and New #LibreOffice Release http://t.co/eMv8iLWYNN #tdf #openofficeFeb 20 17:19
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668948Feb 20 17:42
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schestowitz__and a bunch of pension money once again flows to some Bill Gates connected crony. $19 billion, four in cash, the rest in FB toilet paper stock. That four billion probably came from the "institutional investors" suckered by the FB IPO - firemen, policemen, teachers, widows and orphans who won't get the money they are expecting and deserve.""Feb 20 17:42
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436626621857284096  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436635343748878336Feb 20 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Today's big acquisition shows that no matter how bad you are, if you're in surveillance, then because - not despite - bad economy, you get $Feb 20 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Holy crap, what has happened to Slashdot? Looks like a blog with #Microsoft slant and former Microsoft moles. #slashdot #diceFeb 20 17:56
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XFaCEschestowitz__: acquisition?Feb 20 19:16
XFaCEWhatsApp?Feb 20 19:16
icecrawler<schestowitz__> and fuckerfaceFeb 20 19:47
icecrawlernice high horse you're ridingFeb 20 19:47
icecrawlerand "mother fucker" is offensive...Feb 20 19:47
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prurigrohe mad? I think he madFeb 21 01:06
DaemonFCMy stepdad was looking at iPhones.Feb 21 01:14
DaemonFCI steered him towards a Moto G instead.Feb 21 01:15
DaemonFCYou can get an unlocked Moto G 16 GB for $199 then put a Straight Talk sim card in it and get unlimited everything for $45 a month.Feb 21 01:15
DaemonFCIt's limited to 3G, but that's all you get in most parts of Indiana anyway. :PFeb 21 01:16
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3668803Feb 21 02:33
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schestowitz__"They have been accused of this kind of thing before - cornering the market, bribing manufacturers. It does not seem to have helped them because Android has over run them anyway."Feb 21 02:33
schestowitz__"CNet and Gigohm are doing a silly thing. They are talking about what great features the next spyPhone will have and ignoring the anti-trust implications of buying out Canonical's suppliers. That's really shit of them."Feb 21 02:34
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schestowitz__FSF hostility continues http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/84851Feb 21 03:05
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436777977247186944  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436777434323881984  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436777332075134976   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436775158960119808Feb 21 03:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Gavin Andresen To #Bitcoin Companies: Support Open Source http://t.co/b6PWShM6hWFeb 21 03:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Leaked: Linux’s Look Back Facebook Video http://t.co/fnOBPOj3Ux #linuxFeb 21 03:26
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436771835192295424 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436771396753321984 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436768752559218688  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436768393996533761Feb 21 03:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: PHL among countries to get first crack at Ubuntu smartphones http://t.co/QstIHOkUUn #gnu #linuxFeb 21 03:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu Touch x86 emulator improves security, OpenGL http://t.co/muNs0ndEcG #ubuntu #opengl #gnu #linuxFeb 21 03:26
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schestowitz__After I published a short interview about Diaspora (RMS on Diaspora) someone took it upon himself/herself to post all the political notes from stallman.org in diaspora, under an RMS account.Feb 21 03:40
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436780008724758528   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436780297720721408    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436780649928998912    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436781106030202880    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436781712513961985Feb 21 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #bitcoin gains http://t.co/lde1RIcBySFeb 21 03:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The US has bullied our banks into handing over a billion dollars http://t.co/JRGEGFSYLd applying US law in the EUFeb 21 03:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: RIAA Accuses Grooveshark of Making Piracy a Job Requirement http://t.co/4ZXvxxmOhn the same people who lie so habituallyFeb 21 03:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Noam Chomsky: Why Americans Are Paranoid About Everything (Including Zombies) http://t.co/LnvWDZF5lW control by fearFeb 21 03:52
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436800953308954624  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436801110813454336  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436812080457711616Feb 21 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: [RT] Security News: Education, DDoS, Linksys, SpamAssassin Release… http://t.co/Fqts2H17TU #spamassassin #linksys #ddosFeb 21 05:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In Another Attempt to Derail British #ODF Policy #Microsoft Calls Its Systematic Bribery "Internationally Recognised" http://t.co/X3fT0YpmAdFeb 21 05:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436815957756235776Feb 21 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Latest Examples of Public Sector Moves to Free Software http://t.co/QrUpDTDoA4 #uk #eu #fr #de #ch #nl etc.Feb 21 05:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436816497756090368Feb 21 05:57
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Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/02/20/adobe-flash-update-2/Feb 21 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Adobe Releases Another Emergency Update for Flash - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/go2s6 ]Feb 21 05:59
Sosumianother bandaidFeb 21 06:00
Sosumiadobe's trash player is like damFeb 21 06:01
Sosumiif it develops a crack you certainly aren't going to duct tape the whole thingFeb 21 06:02
Sosumiinstead, you decommission it and build a new oneFeb 21 06:03
Sosumion this case, just kill flashFeb 21 06:03
Sosumiand have it replaced by something elseFeb 21 06:03
Sosumilike html5Feb 21 06:03
MinceRunfortunately, html5 is turning into the exact same kind of proprietary garbageFeb 21 06:06
MinceRthanks to w3c, tbl, m$, crApple, MPEG LA and the MAFIAAFeb 21 06:06
MinceRgeekingsFeb 21 06:07
SosumiyesFeb 21 06:14
SosumiI read about them trying to integrate DRM into html5Feb 21 06:14
schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436830359901446145  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436835923297574912  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436840657412689921Feb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Good Advocacy by the @LinuxFoundation Stresses the Jobs Effect, But Should Mention #GNU Also http://t.co/29Z1nZBPnc #linuxFeb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Good Advocacy by the Linux Foundation Stresses the Jobs Effect, But Should Mention GNU Also | TechrightsFeb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu Makes Many Headlines Again, This Time Because of Real Phones http://t.co/bxuRUUXkce #gnu #linux #Feb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Ubuntu Makes Many Headlines Again, This Time Because of Real Phones | TechrightsFeb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Links 21/2/2014: Games http://t.co/40XDehFdiM Applications http://t.co/7mldl78RrY Instructionals http://t.co/jsCtNAy4DWFeb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Links 21/2/2014: Games | TechrightsFeb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Links 21/2/2014: Applications | TechrightsFeb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Links 21/2/2014: Instructionals | TechrightsFeb 21 07:32
Sosumi!google html5 drmFeb 21 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - DRM In HTML5: What Is Tim Berners-Lee Thinking? | Techdirt | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131016/06583824895/drm-html5-what-is-tim-berners-lee-thinking.shtmlFeb 21 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Lowering Your Standards: DRM and the Future of the W3C ... | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/lowering-your-standardsFeb 21 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Berners-Lee and W3C approve HTML5 video DRM additions ... | http://www.infoworld.com/t/html5/berners-lee-and-w3c-approve-html5-video-drm-additions-228220Feb 21 07:40
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Tell W3C: We don't want the Hollyweb | Defective by Design | http://www.defectivebydesign.org/no-drm-in-html5Feb 21 07:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436849445247143938 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436850682147401728  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436851045151813632  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436851309225201664Feb 21 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Gates-funded (for agenda) 'guardian' still seems to be foolishly using #Microsoft #Windows http://t.co/kM7l2bckbCFeb 21 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Writing The Snowden Files: 'The paragraph began to self-delete' | Books | The GuardianFeb 21 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #bloomberg debating not the leaks but how to prevent the leaks http://t.co/EFElP8O7qBFeb 21 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.businessweek.com | NSA Official Warned About Threat 17 Years Before Snowden - BusinessweekFeb 21 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: RSA, NSA-bribed event, gets press. TrustyCon, dubbed "The Trustworthy Technology Conference," funded by NSA-funded PRISM members. #microsoftFeb 21 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why AT&T’s Surveillance Report Omits 80 Million NSA Targets http://t.co/bVogwUeskv #droNSA #target #nsa #espionageFeb 21 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | Why AT&T's Surveillance Report Omits 80 Million NSA Targets | Threat Level | Wired.comFeb 21 08:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436852470325997568  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436852599070154752  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436852901362016257 Feb 21 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When #europe realises that #pentagon created Internet is now #surveillance apparatus, will other continents get it? http://t.co/yAu4w2FgmCFeb 21 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itproportal.com | NSA snooping must not disrupt global Internet governance model, warns EU politician | ITProPortal.comFeb 21 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #NSA once banned Furbies as a threat to national security http://t.co/SwF0PVwIA6 it's not satire.Feb 21 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> io9.com | The NSA once banned Furbies as a threat to national securityFeb 21 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Mikulski defends #stasi state http://t.co/vopVSpkrRj #nsaFeb 21 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.usnews.com | Mikulski Denounces Bill That Would Deny NSA 'Material Support' in Maryland - US NewsFeb 21 08:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436853626540417024  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436854106293297152Feb 21 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program http://t.co/BDTZvfqPwh http://t.co/HdBNYJE76KFeb 21 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com | Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program - Network WorldFeb 21 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | NSA/PRISM on Steroids: Microsoft Lync | TechrightsFeb 21 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA Spying Leaves Law Firms Vulnerable To Litigation http://t.co/XClO9ChcqZ this will hurt US-based "law" firmsFeb 21 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.law360.com | NSA Spying Leaves Law Firms Vulnerable To Litigation - Law360Feb 21 08:30
schestowitzA church's concerns http://www.catholic.org/news/blog/story.php?id=54184Feb 21 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catholic.org | NSA Spy's on 'YOU' in your own Home! - Blog - Catholic Online [ http://ur1.ca/go3wo ]Feb 21 08:39
schestowitzLOLFeb 21 08:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436855868098093056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436858000608096256  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436859314343796736Feb 21 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nsa undermines justice itself http://t.co/hyUPgHm2jv violating relationships (client-lawyer), not just breaking the law itselfFeb 21 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> posttrib.suntimes.com | Lots to see in battle of surveillance lawsuits - Post-TribuneFeb 21 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #fbi thinks #espionage by government and #oppression of domestic population is what government is really for http://t.co/cPnWnVC85DFeb 21 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> kfor.com | FBI director on NSA controversy: ‘Government operating as it was designed’ | KFOR.comFeb 21 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NSA lawsuits may lead to expansion of spying program http://t.co/Pm4N3KvHDA intoxicated by Power. #droNSAFeb 21 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtontimes.com | NSA lawsuits may lead to expansion of spying program - Washington TimesFeb 21 09:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436859781320810496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436860330007076864  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436860765317120002Feb 21 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Intel chief dodges #NSA questions in #Reddit AMA http://t.co/vDvCNsizs9 #intel as the same suggests is playing ball for #nsaFeb 21 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.sfgate.com | Intel chief dodges NSA questions in Reddit AMA - The Technology ChroniclesFeb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Linux Foundation, which is founded and funded by some #nsa partners, has said almost nothing about the NSA scandals.Feb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nsa "public relations" http://t.co/0aq5DX0zUA #perceptionManagement #pr #espionage #armyFeb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.businessinsider.com.au | Declassified Photos Give An Inside Look At The Ultra-Secret NSA | Business InsiderFeb 21 09:36
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schestowitzhttp://www.stabroeknews.com/2014/news/regional/02/21/venezuelas-violent-crime-fuels-death-business/Feb 21 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stabroeknews.com | Venezuela’s violent crime fuels the death business - Stabroek News - Georgetown, Guyana [ http://ur1.ca/go4ea ]Feb 21 10:08
schestowitz"The government is responsible, the opposition argues, for being soft on crime, for politicizing and corrupting institutions such as the judiciary, and for glorifying violence in public discourse."Feb 21 10:08
schestowitzhttp://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/02/20/the-libyan-bedlam-general-hifter-the-cia-and-the-unfinished-coup/Feb 21 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foreignpolicyjournal.com | The Libyan Bedlam: General Hifter, the CIA and the Unfinished Coup - Foreign Policy Journal | Foreign Policy Journal [ http://ur1.ca/go4ir ]Feb 21 10:25
schestowitzhttp://www.eurasiareview.com/21022014-saudis-cia-agree-arm-syrian-moderates-advanced-weapons-oped/Feb 21 10:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurasiareview.com | Saudis And CIA Agree To Arm Syrian 'Moderates' With Advanced Weapons - OpEd Eurasia Review [ http://ur1.ca/go4ke ]Feb 21 10:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436874385249824768 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436876051311235072  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436876432816734209  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436876752036843520  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436877094707281921Feb 21 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Rand Paul: The NSA is still violating our rights, despite what James Clapper says http://t.co/7D4zzzrttD #nsaFeb 21 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | The NSA is still violating Americans' rights, despite what James Clapper says | Rand Paul | Comment is free | theguardian.comFeb 21 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Upgrading the NSA-powered assassination machinery http://t.co/nbJEEofmAr #nsa #droNSA #ciaFeb 21 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | New Jet-Powered Drone Can Kill 1,800 Miles From Home Base | Danger Room | Wired.comFeb 21 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why a Pakistani reporter is suing the #CIA for murder http://t.co/3E5Iht0PFf http://t.co/FcXaqz3Jah try #nsa tooFeb 21 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.csmonitor.com | Why a Pakistani reporter is suing the CIA for murder - CSMonitor.comFeb 21 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> pakobserver.net | Drone attacksFeb 21 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #drones have the same effect as terrorism http://t.co/Kvph43KXfPFeb 21 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.poughkeepsiejournal.com | NO TITLEFeb 21 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: One of the very last set of attacks from #drones killed many civilians http://t.co/mIEpT5mEHZ #nytimes called them "militants"Feb 21 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pbs.org | Report: U.S. drone strike may have killed up to a dozen civilians in Yemen | The Rundown | PBS NewsHour | PBSFeb 21 10:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436877516444545024  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436879117150343168  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436879695905583104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436879815921389568  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436880591423037440Feb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The US citizens whom #obama wants to kill (extrajudicial) for "suspicion" of "plan" not an "imminent threat" http://t.co/pUJJxPhrxXFeb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> antiwar.com | The American on Obama’s ‘Kill List’ Doesn’t Pose An Imminent Threat « Antiwar.com BlogFeb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Anonymous US officials have said all of the twelve men killed were militants" http://t.co/ECWCvkRHZP a lie of courseFeb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenation.com | The Men We Kill, and the Men We Don’t | The NationFeb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Jon Stewart Compares Obama's Drone Program With Bush's Torture Policy http://t.co/HHQ7YCswC6 http://t.co/hE4rBDF0uB http://t.co/3S8dIHEZnfFeb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com | Jon Stewart Compares Obama's Drone Program With Bush's Torture PolicyFeb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.truthdig.com | Jon Stewart: President Obama Is Like ‘Barry Bombs’ of Drone Strikes - TruthdigFeb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thewrap.com | Jon Stewart Calls Obama the 'Barry Bombs of Drone Strikes' - TheWrapFeb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The problem with the Jon Stewart satire is, #bush started the #drone #assassination policy and #obama continues to torture.Feb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Breeding public support for assassination http://t.co/ybEV56E2Hh courtesy: Hollywood http://t.co/olVL9Oz66ZFeb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.technologytell.com | Movie Review: "3 Days to Kill" | EntertainmentTellFeb 21 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dissenter.firedoglake.com | Former Top CIA Lawyer John Rizzo Hails Agency’s ‘Special Relationship’ with Hollywood Figures | The DissenterFeb 21 10:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436880873645174784  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436882696414167040  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436882976736296961   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436883222769991680  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436883393784344576Feb 21 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: War on shoes http://t.co/A0d4fV36Ex stripping us first at the borders (then "stop and search"/frisking)Feb 21 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cbn.com | US Officials Warn of Airline Shoe Bomb Threat - US - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.comFeb 21 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Not only #cbs spreads the "war on terror" #propaganda. #cnn makes it sound like there's a shoe bomb "industry"/"tech" http://t.co/d7LCUy8qR3Feb 21 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thelead.blogs.cnn.com | Former CIA operative: Shoe bomb technology getting better – The Lead with Jake Tapper - CNN.com BlogsFeb 21 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Murdoch's Fox 'news' continues its series of articles discrediting Michael Moron http://t.co/DlE84D4zmuFeb 21 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.foxnews.com | Former CIA official accused of misleading lawmakers on Benghazi | Fox NewsFeb 21 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Casting for #propaganda film advocating #assassination http://t.co/0KqcQwKKac people's appeal to characters, not ideasFeb 21 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.euronews.com | Hailee Steinfeld is Costner’s daughter in CIA action thriller | euronews, cinemaFeb 21 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Lithuania opens probe into CIA 'black site' allegations http://t.co/RJl4npqGTT #torture #cia #europeFeb 21 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.baltic-course.com | Lithuania opens probe into CIA 'black site' allegations :: The Baltic Course | Baltic States news & analyticsFeb 21 10:39
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3671152Feb 21 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 21 13:19
schestowitz__"wtf!!"Feb 21 13:19
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3670748Feb 21 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Noam Chomsky: Why...Feb 21 13:20
schestowitz__"If I would be crushing half of the world and pissing the other half, I would be very scared."Feb 21 13:20
schestowitz__http://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/02/12396/no-one-cares-about-crazy-people-walker-staffFeb 21 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prwatch.org | Walker Staff on the Mentally Ill: "No One Cares about Crazy People" | PR Watch [ http://ur1.ca/go5o3 ]Feb 21 13:21
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436928866607955968  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436929250332246017 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436929548496949248Feb 21 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Conservative" politics http://t.co/WalkLwIiahFeb 21 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #facebook is buying a lot of personal data (photos/FBInstagram and now chats+photos). The business model cannot be miscomprehended. #gbFeb 21 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Koch brothers and their wealthy allies pledged to spend $400 million on the 2012 elections" http://t.co/KzFdhKfgoEFeb 21 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.prwatch.org | Koch Network Raised Over $400 Million in 2012 | PR WatchFeb 21 13:28
schestowitz__Buttons with numbers  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436933203996459008  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436932138857152512Feb 21 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #LinuxGizmos recently installed spyware in all pages. Every page request transmits visitor data to Google, Twitter, LinkedIn, and Facebook.Feb 21 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Jolla unveils Sailfish OS 1.0, tips Angry Birds phone http://t.co/raMcF2EiH7 #gchq would hoard data off it...Feb 21 13:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Jolla unveils Sailfish OS 1.0, tips Angry Birds phone ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 21 13:40
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672699Feb 21 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #LinuxGizmos rece...Feb 21 14:06
schestowitz__"standard marketing association right? consumer behavior is weened like this!"Feb 21 14:06
schestowitz__Microsoft tried this too, around 2011, falsely claiming WP had AngryBirds and making the developers angryFeb 21 14:07
MinceRAngry DevelopersFeb 21 14:08
schestowitz__http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130209173442/tvtropesmirror/images/e/e6/Einstein_never_said.jpgFeb 21 14:14
MinceR:)Feb 21 14:16
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schestowitz__http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/17/new_password_system_lets_planet_earth_do_the_hard_work/Feb 21 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | New password system lets planet Earth do the hard work • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/go60o ]Feb 21 14:26
MinceRno info on how people will enter such a "password"Feb 21 14:28
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672927Feb 21 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 21 14:30
schestowitz__I think you can find those everywhere."77"Feb 21 14:30
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436942722180870144Feb 21 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #privacy issue reported to #LinuxGizmos -- rule of thumb is, if the button shows a number or is interactive, then it's spyware.Feb 21 14:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGenevaFeb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twitter.com | JenniferPGeneva (JenniferPGeneva) on TwitterFeb 21 14:36
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/436758930531041280Feb 21 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @JasonLeopold I won at FR Sup Ct w/ asylum case,but if I wind-up "totally discredited" (or worse, heaven forfend), the "cui bono" is Lady DiFeb 21 14:37
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/436515286578388992 https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/436515387262656512Feb 21 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: LA Times: "Sen Feinstein offered a full-throated defense of govt collection of data on billions of US phone calls" http://t.co/kmyXjs3uJ6Feb 21 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.latimes.com | Sen. Dianne Feinstein defends NSA and need for intelligence gathering - latimes.comFeb 21 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: It's just unbelievable. It's like she has no ears.Feb 21 14:37
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672629Feb 21 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #facebook is buyi...Feb 21 14:48
schestowitz__"Any idea whats still missing on the list? * Maybe locations (e.g. foursquare [are people still using that?])"Feb 21 14:49
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436949949071503360  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436951833459056640Feb 21 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Observing rapid decline of human rights and intolerance t/w dissent, more US citizens seek to switch to EU passports https://t.co/lqsl2854e2Feb 21 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Seeing how journalists (Assange, Miranda/Greenwald, Shayler), lawyers (Snowden's), etc. get treated in #uk ,no wonder ppl go to FR, DE, etc.Feb 21 14:55
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436953371527118848  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436954090074300416  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436954324212920320   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955285580947456Feb 21 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Zorin OS 8 - More like Windows 7 than Windows 7 http://t.co/4CfgU2Wol5 #vista7 #zorin #gnu #linuxFeb 21 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Zorin OS 8 - More like Windows 7 than Windows 7 « Everyday Linux UserFeb 21 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linaro tackles Android and Linux security http://t.co/WtQzHPmKwc #linux #android #linaroFeb 21 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Linaro tackles Android and Linux security ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 21 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: GNOME 3.12 Might Come To Fedora 20, Packages Available http://t.co/qT0dx86lyW #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux #gnomeFeb 21 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] GNOME 3.12 Might Come To Fedora 20, Packages AvailableFeb 21 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Jolla’s Sailfish OS will be available for Android devices http://t.co/nKkDNkkVcW http://t.co/raMcF2EiH7 #sailfish #jolla #linuxFeb 21 15:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Jolla's Sailfish OS will be available for Android devices | MuktwareFeb 21 15:23
MinceR"More like Windows 7 than Windows 7" -- that doesn't sound good at allFeb 21 15:23
MinceRit's a warning if anythingFeb 21 15:23
schestowitz__yeahFeb 21 15:24
schestowitz__I thought the sameFeb 21 15:24
schestowitz__and it may imply antifeatures alsoFeb 21 15:24
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955479022256129 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955687525298176  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436955917230551040   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436956459294019584Feb 21 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: May open source be with you http://t.co/sfC3dRdNee #opensource #freesw #freedomFeb 21 15:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: With Ubuntu in the Mix, 2014 is the Year of the Open Source Phone http://t.co/0sFeyBangl #ubuntu part of a broader trendFeb 21 15:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Interview with Penn Manor – PA Champions of Open Source http://t.co/aj4xiQFnIh another one behind mass migration to #gnu #linuxFeb 21 15:25
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436956746167648256  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436957355281240064Feb 21 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Broadwell Now Officially Enabled With Intel Mesa http://t.co/RhFxVX02Lb #intel #linux #mesa #broadwellFeb 21 15:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 11 Percent of Windows XP Users Will Switch to Linux, Survey Claims http://t.co/FBD4BaPkBD #gnu #linux #windows #vista8 #microsoftFeb 21 15:26
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schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3672992Feb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johpunk@joindiaspora.com: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/photography/2014/02/venezuela_protest_photos_police_and_protesters_clash_during_demonstrations.htmlFeb 21 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.slate.com | Venezuela protest photos: Police and protesters clash during demonstrations. [ http://ur1.ca/go6dp ]Feb 21 15:39
schestowitz__"Anti-government but pro what?"Feb 21 15:39
schestowitz__CIA maybe, againFeb 21 15:39
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3672969Feb 21 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aliceinwonderland@diasp.eu reshared: ### Inside #DuckDuckGo, #Google's #Tiniest, #Fiercest #CompetitorFeb 21 15:41
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schestowitz__DDG is surveillance too, it's no alternative to Google http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/desktop/opinion/2013_06_21-avoid_duck_duck_go/Feb 21 15:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-173.21.64.166 | Duck Duck No No [ http://ur1.ca/giurh ]Feb 21 15:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3672992Feb 21 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | http://www.slate....Feb 21 15:49
schestowitz__"That's what I was thinking. It seems like it's mirroring the Ukraine situation. In a recent article by roarmag Syndicalist leaders are suggesting that leftist break from the anti-government protests and hunker down in a part of the city. Nationalism on the rise my friends."Feb 21 15:49
schestowitz__"Clarification: The roarmag article was talking about Ukraine not Venezuela."Feb 21 15:50
schestowitz__In Venezuela there has been resistance from the gov t/w the West. The plutocrats there (and CIA) hate the gov.Feb 21 15:50
schestowitz__Very different situation although in some circles I read that Ukraine protests are propped up by US.Feb 21 15:51
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436961095279202304  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436961962233458688    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436964256823926784     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436965418587422722     https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436965746812657664Feb 21 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Wine 1.7.13 Lands More Task Scheduler Support http://t.co/5JSiwuMHXr #wine #windows #gnu #linuxFeb 21 15:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Jolla’s #Sailfish logo is so similar to #seagate that it's a bit worrying. Do they want to get mentally associated with #nsa partners?Feb 21 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Which Side of History Will FIFA Be on in the March to End Slavery in Qatar? http://t.co/TtqGfURZaw #fifa #qatarFeb 21 15:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #ZDNet - part of #cbs - continues old tradition: just one trademark in the menu (Microsoft), beneath there is one ad (also Microsoft). #prFeb 21 15:52
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schestowitz__Not sure if it's true http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1393016019776332_tall.jpgFeb 21 16:02
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/436968927055577088Feb 21 16:03
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schestowitz__Muktware is really taking off, it's becoming a really good sourceFeb 21 16:55
schestowitz__http://www.muktware.com/2013/11/announcing-muktware-bloggers-network-mbn-india/16492Feb 21 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.muktware.com | Announcing Muktware's Bloggers Network (MBN) [ http://ur1.ca/go6rk ]Feb 21 16:55
schestowitz__https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3673437Feb 21 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "You don’t have to look too hard at the slate of new smartphones to see Android’s “bigger is better” ethos." http://m.itworld.com/open-source/406230/are-android-phones-too-bigFeb 21 17:00
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx1TNFPT01ZSKUVFeb 21 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Indiana Governor Pence gets his latest setback from members of his own party in the General Assembly. [ http://ur1.ca/go8td ]Feb 21 22:50
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 21 22:50
DaemonFChttp://www.journalgazette.net/article/20140221/LOCAL06/302219975/0/SEARCHFeb 21 22:50
DaemonFCFirst, Pence tried to get HJR-3, the Marriage Discrimination Amendment on the ballot for 2014. The General Assembly ended up deleting half of it and starting the process over, meaning half of it will end up on the ballot, maybe, in 2016, if the Supreme Court hasn't already struck down all of the Marriage Discrimination laws by then. Then, even if it passes (more than half of survey respondents said they'd vote against it, forcing an unpopular Feb 21 22:50
DaemonFCamendment and Pence on the same ballot, LOL!), it will probably be short lived.Feb 21 22:50
DaemonFCThen the Christian Taliban added to the hilarity by suing the state to try to get the old HJR-3 on the ballot, essentially asking Indiana courts to find that the constitutional method for a constitutional amendment is unconstitutional. (Morons!)Feb 21 22:50
DaemonFCThen Pence tried to cut taxes for rich corporations by a billion dollars a year, without saying where he'd find the money to offset the harm that this will do to local budgets, which are already strained and barely able to functionFeb 21 22:50
DaemonFCThe General Assembly refused to pass it and instead set up a "committee to explore that and get back to you sometime next year".Feb 21 22:50
DaemonFCThen Pence tried to set up a voucher system so that parents could send their children to profitized religious preschools in violation of Article I Section 6 of the Indiana Constitution.Feb 21 22:50
DaemonFCThe General Assembly told him....NO.Feb 21 22:50
DaemonFCThen, Pence tried to go on a spending spree, building more sections of the NAFTA superhighway while the rest of Indiana's roads look like landmines went off. The General Assembly came back with his requested funding cut in half.Feb 21 22:50
DaemonFCPence is a joke.Feb 21 22:50
DaemonFCIt hardly seems bearable that I have to wait another two and half years to help dismiss this insufferable Teatard from office while we have to watch more of his spectacles. Feb 21 22:50
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx32S0QV84YC02WFeb 21 22:52
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 21 22:52
DaemonFChttp://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/02/20/gun-fetish-shoots-self/Feb 21 22:52
DaemonFCA white guy accidentally shot himself in the stomach, then claimed that he was trying to defend himself from a "black man in a hoodie".Feb 21 22:52
DaemonFCThen after police wasted their time investigating his claim, and determined that there was no black man, he changed his story.Feb 21 22:52
DaemonFCNow, the prosecutor is deciding whether to charge him with filing a false police report. Feb 21 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20140221/LOCAL06/302219975/0/SEARCH )Feb 21 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Stupid hick shoots himself, then blames an imaginary black man. [ http://ur1.ca/go8tr ]Feb 21 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictinginfo.org | Gun fetishist shoots himself and blames imaginary black man [ http://ur1.ca/go8ts ]Feb 21 22:54
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 21 23:16
DaemonFCI'd like to fill that pothole I ran over the other day with Governor Pence.Feb 21 23:16
DaemonFCHey! I found a use for The Robot! Feb 21 23:16
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DaemonFC Patricia says:Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCIf you are unemployed in Indiana, stop whining and move to a more vibrant state. If you live in a backwater rubbish state, unemployment is exactly what you deserve.Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCPS: Isn't that bimbo Dan Quayle from Indiana? Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCYes.Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCMister "Potatoe" Head, himself.Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCWe have his "Vice Presidential Library" here. Unfortunately, the former do-nothing one-term VP hasn't had the time to come argue about how to spell potato with any more third graders, and lose.Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFC:)Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCDan Quayle was a pioneer in a few ways. Losing an argument with a third grader is definitely a first for an American Vice President.Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCDeclining to run for the Presidency because of Phlebitis is probably also a first.Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCHe's probably also the first former VP who had a son that ran for a House seat and lost.Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCHe's definitely the only politician that I know of that blamed "America's declining moral values" primarily on Murphy Brown.Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCHe's probably the first one-term Vice President to endorse another losing Presidential ticket. Mitt Romney.Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCAnything I missed?Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFCThey spent federal money to make a bust of Dan Quayle in the Senate. It was redundant, since Quayle was already a bust. It's worth more than Dan Quayle, and it is smarter than Dan Quayle too! Feb 21 23:30
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 21 23:35
DaemonFCDan Quayle was once threatened by a poisonous snake.Feb 21 23:35
DaemonFCAfter three hours of agonizing boredom, the snake died. Feb 21 23:35
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DaemonFChttps://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/1926854_687813501261223_775243517_n.jpgFeb 21 23:45
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Sosumim$ is slashing prices of windows licenses by 70%Feb 22 06:10
Sosumiaccording to them, to compete with crappleFeb 22 06:11
Sosumiso windows 9 to be a toy OS? that fails at even accomplishing thatFeb 22 06:12
Sosumihttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-22/microsoft-said-to-cut-windows-price-70-to-counter-rivals.htmlFeb 22 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bloomberg.com | Microsoft Said to Cut Windows Price 70% to Counter Rivals - Bloomberg [ http://ur1.ca/goawb ]Feb 22 06:13
Sosumiyep, or not to just shove the monstrosity that vista 8 is with its disjointed GUIFeb 22 06:14
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/sabinenamba/status/437161337400344576Feb 22 06:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sabinenamba: @schestowitz @ramez so #larry summer was wrong! God bless!Feb 22 06:48
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437192420837851136  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437192459496734720  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437194236715597825  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437194293611347968Feb 22 07:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Irish Police Ombudsman Office Bugged by Irish Police? http://t.co/20CuonqmVk #police #ireland http://t.co/gEeoM9nHD2Feb 22 07:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Flat Owl Linux Desktop http://t.co/ZKkLRxj4Nq #gnu #linux #flatowlFeb 22 07:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Phones that watch the users are not innovation but #surveillance http://t.co/bM2eEdYWOO #privacy will be misused because it's #GoogleFeb 22 07:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Cantata 1.3.0 Music Player Released with 87 Fixes [Ubuntu Installation] http://t.co/pvQXzeFlqD #ubuntu #gnu #linux #cantanaFeb 22 07:00
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schestowitz__Sosumi: won't work this timeFeb 22 07:01
schestowitz__they tried it before, it's too lateFeb 22 07:01
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437195675273814016  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437195685403045888  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437195791632203776  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437195825153064960Feb 22 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Rugged Android tablet offers IP65 ingress protection http://t.co/VZOIVy6b9R #linux #android #tabletFeb 22 07:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #twitter #censorship http://t.co/TM90lRfAAS "unsafe" for the coyright cartel?Feb 22 07:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Cops reportedly beat, Tasered deaf man who tried to sign http://t.co/AqVFfWvZty #police #abuse #aggressionFeb 22 07:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Georgia teen holding Wii remote shot by cops at his front door: family lawyer http://t.co/awkvy9OM3X shot to death. #nintendo as a 'weapon'.Feb 22 07:03
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/lilianedwards/status/437197588316827648Feb 22 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lilianedwards: "@schestowitz: Women Outnumber Men For The First Time In Berkeley’s Intro To #ComputerScience Course http://t.co/Kbl8z3r8oj " wow! Cf UK??Feb 22 07:13
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schestowitz__http://stallman.org/archives/2013-nov-feb.html#21_February_2014_%28The_protests_in_Venezuela%29Feb 22 07:20
schestowitz__" I do not find it implausible that the US has helped organize the protests. I do not find it implausible that a provocateur (either working for the Venezuelan government or working for the US) has killed people on both sides. "Feb 22 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2013: November - February Political Notes - Richard Stallman [ http://ur1.ca/gob73 ]Feb 22 07:20
schestowitz__" In any case, it is clearly wrong to prosecute the leader of a protest because violence breaks out later. This resembles what the US did to the Haymarket martyrs. "Feb 22 07:20
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437200428254912512   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437198508186415104  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437198492717813760Feb 22 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Stallman on #venezuela protests: "I do not find it implausible that the US has helped organize the protests" http://t.co/aioDd2l6owFeb 22 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Enlightenment's Elementary, EFL 1.9 Beta 2 http://t.co/fylhoskuFP #Enlightenment #EFL #gnu #linuxFeb 22 07:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #BlankOn 9.0 review http://t.co/g85jQyynAc "almost a year and a half between BlankOn 8 and 9" #gnu #linuxFeb 22 07:22
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schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437200762574479360  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437200788231049216  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437200839565127680Feb 22 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Sanity now: Gnome 3.12 looking sensible - at least in beta http://t.co/FQC9cIXAqq http://t.co/CrhrI4GIOw #gnu #gnome #linuxFeb 22 07:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: RapidShare Stops Washington Lobbying Efforts and Regains Pirate Stamp http://t.co/6lyni7azpC #washington #rapidshare #copyrightFeb 22 07:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Defend John #Kiriakou : Tell Bureau of Prisons Director to End Illegal Retaliation Against Torture Whistleblower ... https://t.co/kKRmRmxMaxFeb 22 07:23
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437201369267974144Feb 22 07:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Defend #Kiriakou : llegal Retaliation Against Torture Whistleblower http://t.co/zQY1CBxj0F more like a goulag's reign. #cia #tortureFeb 22 07:25
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Sosumischestowitz__, repeating the same thing while expecting different resultsFeb 22 07:40
Sosumiis the very definition of insanityFeb 22 07:40
SosumiI think that it was Einstein who said thatFeb 22 07:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3673149Feb 22 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | 11 Percent of Win...Feb 22 07:46
schestowitz__"The fact they were still using XP already indicates that they would, since they can see all the newer Windows releases that have been churned out in the last few years for the gigantic heap of bullshit that they are. I still dual-boot XP so long as I can't find acceptable free software to meet some of my needs, since it's probably the least-broken OS that Microsoft ever released."Feb 22 07:46
Sosumihttp://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=461684&d=1392862088Feb 22 07:52
schestowitz__http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/item/the_snowden_files_20140221Feb 22 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.truthdig.com | The Snowden Files - Book Review - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/gobdg ]Feb 22 07:54
schestowitz__Luke Harding? The exploitative one who demonises Guardian sources? Avoid.Feb 22 07:54
schestowitz__http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/apr/17/world-tomorrow-julian-assange-wikileaks Feb 22 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | The World Tomorrow: Julian Assange proves a useful idiot | Media | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gobdi ]Feb 22 07:54
schestowitz__http://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/apr/10/wikileaks-david-leigh-luke-harding-reviewFeb 22 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | WikiLeaks by David Leigh and Luke Harding - review | Books | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gobdj ]Feb 22 07:54
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437209406737240064Feb 22 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Guardian's anti-Snowden book is out, a few years after the Guardian's anti-Assange book. So much for 'guardian'... #guardianFeb 22 08:01
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675086Feb 22 08:01
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schestowitz__"So? Work for yourself, no boss and done."Feb 22 08:01
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 13:27
DaemonFCI got a kick out of that Trans Pacific Partnership comic that I posted the other day. Specifically, the part where the rich guy says "If I paid American wages, your shoes would cost $15.", so the guy wearing the shoes says "But, they already cost ten times that!", so the rich guy says "No. I meant they would cost ME $15 to make, instead of $3.66!".Feb 22 13:27
DaemonFCMy shoes were made in Massachusetts by Americans and this computer was assembled by an American (myself). Has anyone else had enough of this crap? Feb 22 13:27
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schestowitz> I don't object.Feb 22 14:32
schestowitzStallman about his new about in JoinDiasporaFeb 22 14:33
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 22 14:34
DaemonFCWhen you're good to fatass, fatass makes sure you get Sandy money.Feb 22 14:34
DaemonFCWhen you're not good to fatass, fatass shuts down your bridge. Feb 22 14:34
SosumiDaemonFC, that wouldn't be a problem be a problem if those low expertise jobsFeb 22 14:34
Sosumiwere supplanted by high tech jobsFeb 22 14:35
schestowitz> if you did not send me E-mail in the past 24 hours, then someone else did.Feb 22 14:35
schestowitz> —————————————————————————————————————————————————Feb 22 14:35
schestowitz> Feb 22 14:35
schestowitz> I cannot account for the Bell South message you received but I assure you all my future Sends will be only from Feb 22 14:35
Sosumiwhich isn't the caseFeb 22 14:35
schestowitz> Google G-Mail.Feb 22 14:35
schestowitzI think all your contacts may be getting spammed through the Bellsouth account.Feb 22 14:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437251928092057600  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437252500895596545Feb 22 14:35
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Sosumiand the fact that education in the US costs so much ins't helping in bringing that paradigm into viewFeb 22 14:36
Sosumiany time soonFeb 22 14:36
Sosumiif everFeb 22 14:36
Sosumibut don't worry,Feb 22 14:36
SosumiObozo and warnuts MacCain will be saying "may god bless amerikkka and the TPP" Feb 22 14:37
DaemonFCWhy pay taxes and invest in education for Americans?Feb 22 14:37
DaemonFCApple says that's "Someone else's problem." and hires Germans, Japanese, and Chinese to build their phones.Feb 22 14:38
Sosumiso you can get a properly trained workforce?Feb 22 14:38
Sosumibut they seem to be investing into charter schoolsFeb 22 14:39
DaemonFCIt's not an investment.Feb 22 14:39
DaemonFCIt's cronyism.Feb 22 14:39
SosumiyepFeb 22 14:39
SosumiI was saying to make ppl bleed money from every single orificeFeb 22 14:40
Sosumi*going to sayFeb 22 14:40
DaemonFCWhat are you investing in, exactly, when you teach children that plesiosaurs were detected by the radar of a Japanese submarine, and it proves that evolution didn't happen?Feb 22 14:40
SosumilolFeb 22 14:41
MinceRyour own downfallFeb 22 14:41
Sosumiok, USA = lalalalalalalalalalandFeb 22 14:43
SosumiI actually once tried to pull the carpet to a religious dude about evolutionFeb 22 14:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/freenodestaffFeb 22 14:47
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Sosumiby mentioned, in the overall battle between the forces of light (order) and the forces of darkness (chaos), opened a sea of possibilities in which early organisms or should I say, proto-organisms, to properly adapt to their respective environmentFeb 22 14:49
Sosumithus decreasing chaosFeb 22 14:50
Sosumiand with each evolutionary and opening into increased complexityFeb 22 14:51
Sosumifurther decreasing chaosFeb 22 14:51
Sosumiso cutting it shortFeb 22 14:52
Sosumigod wonFeb 22 14:52
Sosumiin the sense that order=godFeb 22 14:52
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Sosumiof course to turn the things more poetic I did brought in the cycles of mass extinction that killed earlier lifeformsFeb 22 14:54
Sosumias the constant battles between the forces of light and darknessFeb 22 14:54
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Sosumiand that is how you pull the carpet on religious folkFeb 22 14:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437312704504922112  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437313930072195074  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437314406792572928Feb 22 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Freenode is under #DDOS attack again (second time this month). Millions now know the pain of IRC DDOS, like that which #GCHQ launches.Feb 22 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Best Android Apps For Finding and Sharing New Recipes http://t.co/795hAfBEVJ #android #linuxFeb 22 14:55
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msbDaemonFC: Hi!  Are you there?Feb 22 15:01
DaemonFCYeah.Feb 22 15:01
msbDaemonFC: Is comcast still disconnecting you if you do bittorrent?Feb 22 15:02
DaemonFCSometimes.Feb 22 15:03
DaemonFCIt seems to happen more in the evenings.Feb 22 15:03
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msbDaemonFC: But sometimes BT works?Feb 22 15:03
msbDaemonFC: I was gonna suggest downloading a Linux distro -- legal -- and see if they disconnect you.  If they do, you could complain legitimately.Feb 22 15:04
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DaemonFCWell, they were using Sandvine at one point.Feb 22 15:14
DaemonFCI joined a lawsuit against them for that.Feb 22 15:14
DaemonFCThey settled and ended up paying me $16.Feb 22 15:14
DaemonFC:PFeb 22 15:14
DaemonFCI also joined a lawsuit against Walmart for demanding off-the-clock work.Feb 22 15:15
DaemonFCI got $44.36.Feb 22 15:15
DaemonFCThey always end up settling for peanuts.Feb 22 15:15
DaemonFCThe lawyers get half the money and then the million or so people who got fucked get five bucks.Feb 22 15:15
DaemonFC:PFeb 22 15:15
DaemonFCThe only reason to sign onto a class action lawsuit is it doesn't cost you anything, you might get a few bucks, and the terms of a settlement typically state that any unclaimed money goes back to the offender.Feb 22 15:16
msbhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandvine#Comcast_controversyFeb 22 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sandvine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gog2o ]Feb 22 15:16
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DaemonFCAt least this way, Comcast and Walmart put a little bit of money into the economy. :PFeb 22 15:17
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DaemonFCAlso, I found on the Attorney General's website that a temp agency I worked for in 2003 didn't pay me for the last two hours that I technically worked for them before I got a permanent job offer.Feb 22 15:18
DaemonFCSo I got $20. :PFeb 22 15:18
DaemonFCIf you don't claim the money within 7 years after the AG posts it on that site, Indiana gets to keep it, and it goes into the state's general fund.Feb 22 15:18
DaemonFChttp://www.salon.com/2014/02/22/the_billion_dollar_whatsapp_acquisition_is_whats_wrong_with_americas_growth_partner/Feb 22 15:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.salon.com | Robert Reich: WhatsApp is everything wrong with the U.S. economy - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/gog3s ]Feb 22 15:20
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DaemonFCI posted this:Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCRobert Reich says that Facebook's acquisition of WhatsApp represents everything that's wrong with the American economy.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFChttp://www.salon.com/2014/02/22/the_billion_dollar_whatsapp_acquisition_is_whats_wrong_with_americas_growth_partner/Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCWhatsApp has 455 million users, and has just 55 employees. The amount of money that a company brings in no longer has anything to do with the number of employees it has to hire.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCThe 55 employees are all that WhatsApp needs to serve the 455 million customers.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCI didn't install WhatsApp to begin with, and I surely won't install it now that Facebook owns it.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCThat's a problem with proprietary software that mines your personal data. You never know who will end up "owning" it, and who they will sell it to.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCAt one point, there was even speculation that Opera Software ASA, was going to sell their web browser to Facebook. It didn't happen, although it still could in the future.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCWould you want to use a web browser that is owned by Facebook? That's the problem with proprietary software. Just because the company is benign today doesn't mean it won't do something nasty tomorrow.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCAnd just because it's nasty tomorrow doesn't mean it won't get worse next week.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCReich is focused on the lack of jobs that proprietary software makes.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCFreedom respecting software doesn't produce many jobs per end user either, but it places no restrictions on how the software can be used, and everything is done in the open. If someone does something nasty, someone else will release a corrected version without the unwanted feature.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCNobody can fork WhatsApp or Opera. Or Windows, or Mac OS, or...... You have to accept their nasty EULA or just avoid using them entirely.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFCWhich is the topic of another article.Feb 22 15:30
DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/theres-really-bad-stuff-buried-those-terms-and-conditions-youre-expected-not-readFeb 22 15:30
DaemonFCJohn McAfee notes that proprietary software usually does something malicious/nasty and that users don't even bother to read the license before they install it.Feb 22 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org | There's Really Bad Stuff Buried in Those 'Terms and Conditions' You're Expected Not to Read and Just Click Yes on | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gog8q ]Feb 22 15:31
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437324376883867648   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437326451248201729    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437327051511832576Feb 22 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Linux Kernel: Android? http://t.co/AbD2gTDy4c #linux #kernel #androidFeb 22 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.org | The Linux Kernel: Android? | Linux.orgFeb 22 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Canonical to show off Mir enabled #Ubuntu Touch at #MWC http://t.co/x0ParqpAQS #gnu #linuxFeb 22 15:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NeonView 0.8.2 Released http://t.co/HkyX5xTN49 #neonview #gnu #linuxFeb 22 15:49
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schestowitz> "US News Dumps Pre-2007 Archive, Putting A Proxy Paywall Between WritersFeb 22 15:50
schestowitz> And Their Work"Feb 22 15:50
schestowitz> http://www.techdirt.com//articles/20140219/09364926282/us-news-dumps-pre-2007-archive-putting-proxy-paywall-between-writers-their-work.shtmlFeb 22 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | US News Dumps Pre-2007 Archive, Putting A Proxy Paywall Between Writers And Their Work | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/goghs ]Feb 22 15:50
schestowitz> Feb 22 15:50
schestowitz> Those are gone for good.  EBSCO and LexisNexis are expensive, they are aFeb 22 15:50
schestowitz> more serious barrier than just a simple paywall.  Your average go is noFeb 22 15:50
schestowitz> longer going to be able to find these articles, let alone browse or linkFeb 22 15:50
schestowitz> to them.Feb 22 15:50
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schestowitz> Lawrence Lessig keynote at SCALE 12.  His presentation starts at 1:01:30Feb 22 15:52
schestowitz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaG1SPvr__wFeb 22 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | UpSCALE and Lawrence Lessig Keynote - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gogih ]Feb 22 15:52
schestowitz> Feb 22 15:52
schestowitz> note: sound quality is next to uselessFeb 22 15:52
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schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437328775605657600  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/437329419347451906Feb 22 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why one should write and publish for oneself http://t.co/JbbChkaMs9Feb 22 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Justice Department used this law to pursue Aaron Swartz. Now it’s open to reforming it. http://t.co/kjJRqj3gKY http://t.co/7ypzlQJKu3Feb 22 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | The Justice Department used this law to pursue Aaron Swartz. Now it’s open to reforming it.Feb 22 15:58
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msb__When technology enables machines to do what people formerly did, thus "destroying jobs", that should be a _good_ thing.  If machines can produce all the food and other things we need, then people wouldn't have to work.  It's called _socialism_ and the corporate-controlled US and other governments murder millions of people to prevent its adoption.Feb 22 16:14
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675081Feb 22 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)Feb 22 16:27
schestowitz"Now I feel almost privilleged - I can pay more! Wow!"Feb 22 16:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675534Feb 22 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Kiev spring http:...Feb 22 16:28
schestowitz"oho! sign of trouble, civil unrest alert!"Feb 22 16:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675024Feb 22 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Stallman on #vene...Feb 22 16:29
schestowitz"I think the same, and let's say that the US stops messing Venezuela. Venezuela has a lot of oil, is not under embargo like Cuba, and at this time a lot of companies are property of the State. Then why there is a lot of poverty, violence and a bankrupt economy? I would expect Venezuela doing at least as good as Mexico. Even the Evil Empire keeps buying Venezuelean oil."Feb 22 16:29
schestowitzMexico is not doing too well, either (even worse after NAFTA)Feb 22 16:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3675551Feb 22 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Suffciency and se...Feb 22 16:30
schestowitz"I think the technologies already exist. What is missing is the social organisation and dissemination of knowledge necessary to implement them. The biggest problem is that this kind of farming is not in the interests of the transnational corporations, who are actively working to destroy it http://www.acbio.org.za/activist/index.php?m=u&f=dsp&petitionID=3"Feb 22 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.acbio.org.za | ACB - Food justice for all [ http://ur1.ca/goguj ]Feb 22 16:30
schestowitz"Interesting. However, we need the development of technologies that reduce economies of scale and increase productivity at the same time in order to improve small-scale farming."Feb 22 16:30
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DaemonFC http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/02/ukrainians-are-having-delightful-day-abandoned-presidential-palace/358393/Feb 22 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thewire.com | Ukrainians Are Having a Delightful Day at the Abandoned Presidential Palace - The Wire [ http://ur1.ca/goi9g ]Feb 22 20:15
DaemonFCLOLFeb 22 20:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Advocacy - My Take http://t.co/PcwXNEuvflFeb 22 20:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/goievFeb 22 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Advocacy - My Take | Tux MachinesFeb 22 20:56
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