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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/Acer-DA220HQL-21-5-Inch-Android-Touchscreen/dp/B00CHYKVPQ/Mar 16 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Acer DA220HQL 21.5-Inch Android All-in-One Touchscreen Desktop (Black): Computers & Accessories [ http://ur1.ca/gv0qv ]Mar 16 02:28
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Mar 16 05:15
DaemonFCI think that if self-checkouts were going to save more than they cost, that Aldi would have put them in ages ago.Mar 16 05:15
DaemonFChttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/consumertips/household-bills/10603984/Shoppers-steal-billions-through-self-service-tills.htmlMar 16 05:15
DaemonFCIn the United Kingdom, retailers are losing about 1.7 billion GBP per year ($2.83 billion US dollars) to self-checkout theft, every year.Mar 16 05:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Shoppers steal billions through self service tills - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/gv1my ]Mar 16 05:15
DaemonFCIt doesn't take long for people to get the idea that they can ring up expensive produce that's $2-3 a pound as overripe bananas that are 37 cents a pound, or swipt "manager special" stickers and stick them on things that aren't even close to expiring, or even save them and stick them to something else next time they're in the store.Mar 16 05:15
DaemonFCOne store that I know of has store brand bread for 44 cents on the last few days, but it's not too hard to take those stickers and put them on the good stuff that's $3.50 a loaf.Mar 16 05:15
DaemonFCAt one point, there was even a website that was designed to let you print out your own UPC labels to take to Walmart with you.Mar 16 05:15
DaemonFCYou don't like that the 100% whole wheat spaghetti is $2.99? Bam. Now it's Great value for $.88.Mar 16 05:15
DaemonFCAll kinds of "opportunities" open up, which is another reason why retailers are yanking this damned things out and going with "customers hate them.Mar 16 05:15
DaemonFCPeople are people, so if the UK is losing $2.8 billion a year, it's not too hard to see US retailers losing closer to $25-30 billion a year. To say nothing about how that can wreck a store's inventory system and cost even more money.Mar 16 05:15
DaemonFCIt might be cheaper to just bring back some human cashiers. Mar 16 05:15
DaemonFChttp://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/03/14/290099732/seniors-pay-while-congress-argues-over-medicare-pay-for-doctorsMar 16 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Can Congress Put An End To Annual Medicare Payment Ritual? : Shots - Health News : NPR [ http://ur1.ca/gv1nw ]Mar 16 05:18
DaemonFCBoth plans are kind of bad.Mar 16 05:18
DaemonFCIt all goes back to a 1997 law that Congress passed, called the Balanced Budget Act of 1997, which contained a "Medicare Sustainable Growth Rate" formula, that said that, beginning in 2003, that Medicare payments to doctors and hospitals couldn't rise more than the GDP growth for the previous year.Mar 16 05:19
DaemonFCSo, while doctors and hospitals were basically having themselves a time with million dollar bonuses and whatnot, they started billing Medicare more like 5, 6, 7% more every year, and, well, we haven't had GDP growth that looked that good in a while.Mar 16 05:21
DaemonFCIt certainly doesn't happen every year, so the doctors and hospitals have basically cried wolf every year, and sent the usual bribes to Congress, and Congress "patches" the SGR for another year.Mar 16 05:22
DaemonFCIt's not "flawed", it's not a "mistake".Mar 16 05:22
DaemonFCIt's a guaranteed way to get fund raising every year, and it's brilliant actually.Mar 16 05:23
DaemonFCIf they don't send you enough money, fuck em.Mar 16 05:23
DaemonFCSo far it hasn't happened. :)Mar 16 05:23
DaemonFCCongress is so corrupt that basically all legislation is fund raising.Mar 16 05:24
DaemonFCLike how they make sure they pass a farm bill every five years ("Five Year Plans", like the Soviet Union), by threatening to revert to "permanent law" that would mean the restoration of a dairy price support system from the 1940s that would make milk cost $7 a gallon. :)Mar 16 05:26
DaemonFChttp://beta.slashdot.org/story/199445Mar 16 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beta.slashdot.org | Controversial Torrent Streaming App 'Popcorn Time' Shuts Down, Then Gets Reborn - SlashdotMar 16 05:40
DaemonFCThe Popcorn Time program and website were both yanked by the service provider after the US government complained.Mar 16 05:40
DaemonFCHowever, Popcorn Time was open source from the beginning. So, by definition, it cannot be killed. Once you release source code, nobody can "unrelease" your code. It's out there forever.Mar 16 05:40
DaemonFCNot that the government has had an easy time killing sharing tools. Even the proprietary ones tend to stay around forever.Mar 16 05:40
DaemonFCOpenNap (Yes, the reverse engineered open source implementation of the Napster protocol), and WinMX (the proprietary Windows application and file sharing service) are both still out there.Mar 16 05:40
DaemonFCIn the WinMX case, it was a simple matter of using the last released binary verion of the proprietary program from 2003, and changing a flat configuration file to point to a different server.Mar 16 05:40
DaemonFCAs the developer of the Popcorn Time program correctly notes, Mar 16 05:40
DaemonFC" Piracy is not a people problem. It's a service problem. A problem created by an industry that portrays innovation as a threat to their antique recipe to collect value. It seems to everyone that they just don't care. But people do. We've shown that people will risk fines, lawsuits and whatever consequences that may come just to be able to watch a recent movie in slippers. Just to get the kind of experience they deserve."Mar 16 05:40
DaemonFCWinMX even works in Wine... LOLMar 16 05:43
DaemonFCAl Bundy: "Would you like to buy our extended replacement plan?"Mar 16 05:51
DaemonFCGriff: "Yeah, if the shoes fail within the first 30 days, we'll tow your big *** back here for free!" Mar 16 05:51
DaemonFC Patricia K. says:Mar 16 06:06
DaemonFCYou can whine all you want about self-checkout. I love 'em. My time is worth something to me, and I can check myself out faster than the fastest cashier, plus I know what these things I'm buying should cost, so there are no surprises. No waiting. No cashier mistakes that cost me money (cashiers, of course, never seem to make mistakes in my favor). I wish EVERY store I shop at had them. LOVE THEM. Mar 16 06:06
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Mar 16 06:06
DaemonFCThey ring it up and the store's computer adds the total to your bill.Mar 16 06:06
DaemonFCIt's not their fault that someone put the items under the wrong price sign.Mar 16 06:06
DaemonFCOf course, customers try to pull that one all the time, by changing the price themselves and then demanding "their price".Mar 16 06:06
DaemonFCHey, whatever.Mar 16 06:06
DaemonFCWhen I was on register, I let them get away with bloody murder. If you don't, they call the DM and get you ****ed out, even if they were obviously trying to rob the store. Mar 16 06:06
DaemonFCI actually had the DM call and yell at me once because I refused to let someone return their old big PS2 in a Slimline PS2 box.Mar 16 06:06
DaemonFCI don't even know how they expected me to believe them. The box wouldn't even close. It was bulging at the sides. Mar 16 06:06
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Ziomatrixso who seems to be relishing all this attention on international events recently? It seems the Entertainment lobby in the US is, SOPA Lives Again! http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140313/17470826574/rebranding-sopa-now-called-notice-staydown.shtmlMar 16 06:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdirt.com | The Rebranding Of SOPA: Now Called 'Notice And Staydown' | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/gur80 ]Mar 16 06:33
ZiomatrixIts apparent that the RIAA/MPAA are beating the drums of censorship: http://thehill.com/opinion/op-ed/200630-victims-of-ip-theft-need-better-protectionMar 16 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Victims of IP theft need better protection | TheHill [ http://ur1.ca/gv21d ]Mar 16 06:36
ZiomatrixLinks on articles that artists don't view enforcing draconian laws in the name of IP and Creativity actually helps them: http://pastebay.net/1410874Mar 16 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pastebay.net | PasteBay.com - Free uncensored text hostingMar 16 06:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here’s why Mark Shuttleworth is growing beardMar 16 07:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s why Mark Shuttleworth is growing beard | Tux MachinesMar 16 07:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Measuring Success in an Open Source ProjectMar 16 07:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Measuring Success in an Open Source Project | Tux MachinesMar 16 07:57
DaemonFChttp://www.examiner.com/article/apple-dodges-9-2-billion-tax-bill-could-have-funded-majority-of-sequesterMar 16 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.examiner.com | Apple dodges $9.2 billion tax bill, could have funded majority of sequester - Orlando liberal | Examiner.com [ http://ur1.ca/gv2ta ]Mar 16 09:17
DaemonFCThe amount of tax evasion that Apple commits is about equal to the size of the sequester from the Budget Control Act of 2011. Mar 16 09:17
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Sosumithe cadaverous golem of germany is furious after Gerhard Shroder backed up PutinMar 16 11:11
Sosumidoes Merkel also only speak and move when the "Douche" Bank incribes the words Aemeth on her forehead?Mar 16 11:12
Sosumialso, the superiority of OSXMar 16 12:08
Sosumiit took a mac pro 4.1 with two quad cores at 2.93 ghz and 24 GB of ecc ramMar 16 12:09
Sosumi17 days to start behaving erratically and need a rebootMar 16 12:09
Sosumiwhen it was running nothing else than vmware fusion and itunesMar 16 12:10
Sosumi24/7Mar 16 12:10
SosumilolMar 16 12:10
Sosumiand at that moment, the system was maxing the entire ram for non specific reasonMar 16 12:11
Sosumiwhen normally it should have been at the 10/12GBMar 16 12:12
Sosuminot even windows behaves that erraticallyMar 16 12:13
Sosumiand this was also an issue that I had noticed when I was testing osx 10.9Mar 16 12:13
Sosumiright after releaseMar 16 12:13
Sosumithe system clogging all ramMar 16 12:13
Sosumiso yes, the superiority of osxMar 16 12:14
Sosumishould I also mention that the only time I reboot my fedora/rhel is when there's some update that requires so?Mar 16 12:15
Sosumiotherwise the machine can go working for months with no erratic behaviourMar 16 12:16
Sosumihttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581488/It-WAS-hijacked-Malaysian-official-says-CONCLUSIVE-jet-carrying-239-hijacked-35-000-ft-individual-group-significant-flying-experience.htmlMar 16 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Missing Malaysia Airlines plane WAS hijacked, says official | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gv3xe ]Mar 16 12:26
Sosumicaptain obvious, but doesn't the US and Russia have spy satellites basically overlooking everything?Mar 16 12:31
Sosumiso why not ask themMar 16 12:31
Sosumior the chineseMar 16 12:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_9826b78f2a6bc1ce8d03.jpgMar 16 13:08
schestowitzUkraineMar 16 13:09
schestowitzSosumi: DailyFail is a tabloidMar 16 13:09
schestowitzAlways propping up the "terroor" scareMar 16 13:09
schestowitzIt's more fo a joke in the UKMar 16 13:10
schestowitzSometimes they hide behind "Mail Online" nym -- lesser disgracedMar 16 13:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_9826b78f2a6bc1ce8d03.jpgMar 16 13:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Measuring Success in an Open Source ProjectMar 16 13:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Measuring Success in an Open Source Project | Tux MachinesMar 16 13:22
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3769528Mar 16 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jalfro@diasp.eu: ### Don't be fooled into thinking that democracy is the health of the state. War is the health of the state. Democracy is the defence that ordinary people have against the state's worst excesses. #democracy #politics #anarchism #freedom #libertarianism #state #government #selfdefenceMar 16 13:22
Sosumiyes, but the plane is still missingMar 16 13:34
schestowitzyes, that does not prove their pointMar 16 13:34
Sosumiand the whole thing suggests that it was purposefully taken to another courseMar 16 13:34
schestowitzmehMar 16 13:34
schestowitzunlikelyMar 16 13:34
schestowitzyou can't hide it from satellitesMar 16 13:34
schestowitzand there's lots of themMar 16 13:35
schestowitzI heard some jokes about it landing somwhereMar 16 13:35
SosumiI'm not saying that it proves or disproves, I just posted it as their viewMar 16 13:35
Sosumiand I stated my viewMar 16 13:35
schestowitzit reminds me of some of the craziest 9/11 theories, which speak of planes never fallingMar 16 13:35
schestowitz4 planesMar 16 13:35
schestowitztoday I found this though:Mar 16 13:35
schestowitzhttp://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/why-is-the-cia-fighting-release-of-documents-relating-to-4-planes-that-went-missing-in-1980-140315?news=852683Mar 16 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.allgov.com | Unusual News - Why is the CIA Fighting Release of Documents Relating to 4 Planes that Went Missing in 1980? - AllGov - News [ http://ur1.ca/gv4bz ]Mar 16 13:35
Sosumiabout asking the US intelligence, russian or chineseMar 16 13:35
schestowitzAh, OKMar 16 13:36
schestowitzWell, I thought you were saying something like the joke of my uncle in FloriaMar 16 13:36
schestowitzOvernight he joked thjat the plane might be in Kazakhstan Mar 16 13:36
Sosumidoing what? being retrofit into a soyous?Mar 16 13:37
Sosumi:)Mar 16 13:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/csoghoian/status/445188739623841792Mar 16 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@csoghoian: The FBI, not the NSA, is the domestic intelligence agency that should scare us all (great article from 2013): http://t.co/VzLbTDu924Mar 16 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.foreignpolicy.com | Spy Copters, Lasers, and Break-In TeamsMar 16 13:38
schestowitzFBI went abroad to do its thing (e.g. iceland for Wikileaks and NZ for Dotcom), so it's not domesticMar 16 13:39
SosumiI had already said that someone was benefiting from the NSA bad publicityMar 16 13:39
Sosumiand would benefit even more if the NSA were to be crippled or dissolvedMar 16 13:40
schestowitz Turf wars?Mar 16 13:40
Sosumihaving in mind at the time both the CIA and the DEAMar 16 13:40
Sosumiand it seems that the FBI is benefiting tooMar 16 13:40
Sosumisince none of the media attention is being directed towards themMar 16 13:41
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Sosumihttp://www.geek.com/microsoft/banks-pay-microsoft-big-for-securing-windows-xp-atms-1588032/Mar 16 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com | Banks pay Microsoft big for securing Windows XP ATMs | Microsoft | Geek.com [ http://ur1.ca/gv4nz ]Mar 16 14:49
SosumishamefulMar 16 14:49
Sosumibanks, why u no use bsd?Mar 16 14:49
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MinceRgeekingsMar 16 14:55
MinceRhttp://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-cleric-issues-fatwa-against-all-you-can-eat-buffets-1440275Mar 16 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Saudi Cleric Issues Fatwa Against All-You-Can-Eat Buffets [ http://ur1.ca/gv4pe ]Mar 16 14:56
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Sosumiapparently in the KSA all you can have is starvationMar 16 15:54
Sosumiall starvation buffetMar 16 15:55
Sosumitake gulps of air and go die in some cornerMar 16 15:55
MinceR:>Mar 16 15:55
MinceRit's the way their god would like you to go.Mar 16 15:55
MinceRif their god existed, that is.Mar 16 15:56
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Sosumiif their good was real, I'm certain he wouldn't need a beardie wearing table towels to speak for himselfMar 16 15:57
MinceR:>Mar 16 15:58
Sosumicome he's god, all powerful, omnipotent and omniscient,Mar 16 15:58
Sosumicertainly not a social inept dudeMar 16 15:58
MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2292Mar 16 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast CerealMar 16 15:59
Sosumithe ball theodicy is a reference to LiebntzMar 16 16:00
Sosumiand the actual name of one of his booksMar 16 16:01
SosumiI still need to finish reading it and learning more in detail about the monadsMar 16 16:02
Sosumibut not now :)Mar 16 16:02
Sosumihttps://twitter.com/WMRDC/status/445229650072317952Mar 16 16:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WMRDC: Pakistan's two major English-language papers omit news on MH370 on their front pgs. Could plane be in Pak? Today at http://t.co/qdoHRIJHGjMar 16 16:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> WayneMadsenReport.com | WAYNE MADSEN REPORT - Wayne Madsen ReportMar 16 16:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Weekend in Techrights http://t.co/BMoNA9K39CMar 16 16:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weekend in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 16 16:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Signal-to-Noise Ratio http://t.co/TuUppgulcLMar 16 16:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gv5akMar 16 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Signal-to-Noise Ratio | Tux MachinesMar 16 16:26
cubezzzdid they really wear those ridiculous wigs in the 1600's?Mar 16 17:37
cubezzzlong hair: fashionable in 1630s and 1640sMar 16 17:40
cubezzzthen they switched to wigs around 1660 (evidently)Mar 16 17:40
cubezzzthe big hair 1980s has nothing on 1660Mar 16 17:48
MinceRhttp://media.cagle.com/144/2014/03/14/145727_600.jpgMar 16 18:03
Sosumieven the pharaohs in egypt used wigsMar 16 18:12
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Sosumihttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-16/exit-polls-confirm-93-voters-back-crimea-joining-russiaMar 16 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Exit Polls Confirm 93% Of Voters Back Crimea Joining Russia | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gv5ut ]Mar 16 18:14
Sosumitoday's Crimea, tomorrows's the entire europeMar 16 18:14
Sosumiyepi ki yay ObozoMar 16 18:15
MinceRhttp://imagerz.com/QFdDW1wGAAUMar 16 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imagerz.com | ImagerzMar 16 18:20
cubezzzno, that's too paranoidMar 16 18:24
cubezzzPutin probably just wants a kind of neo-USSRMar 16 18:24
MinceRi hope he doesn't rush the eastern bloc before i leave the countryMar 16 18:26
Sosumiyou guys don't seem to like neither putin or russiaMar 16 19:00
Sosumibut those coup guys in kiev are much worstMar 16 19:00
Sosumithey even pledged what remained of ukraine's gold reserves for a IMF/US loanMar 16 19:01
Sosumiand are to privatise everythingMar 16 19:01
Sosumifrom what I have heard, they are to give the pipelinen to chevronMar 16 19:01
Sosumiand some farmland also seems to be on the chopping blockMar 16 19:02
Sosumiwith peasants being driven out of their landMar 16 19:03
MinceRdoes that mean that we should like putin, russia and yanukovych?Mar 16 19:03
Sosumiand it doesn't seem rosy on the coal and steel industry thereMar 16 19:03
SosumiI don't like any of themMar 16 19:03
MinceRthen don't be so surprised that i don't like them :>Mar 16 19:03
Sosumibut evaluating the sceneMar 16 19:04
Sosumiputin hasn't done anything wrongMar 16 19:04
Sosumiwhat he did was merely defensiveMar 16 19:04
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MinceRas far as i can tell, he has done plenty wrongMar 16 19:04
Sosumispecially when you have the puppets in kiev giving concessions to the missile shieldMar 16 19:04
Sosumilike?Mar 16 19:04
MinceRand he has no right to be defensive in the place of his puppetMar 16 19:05
Sosumithe former president?Mar 16 19:05
MinceRyesMar 16 19:05
Sosumithe former president was hardly his puppet, he was more of another oligarch who escaped to ukraine rather than facing the fate other russian oligarchs sufferedMar 16 19:06
cubezzza business environment might like mwm because there's really no frivilous stuff Mar 16 19:15
cubezzzno volume controlMar 16 19:16
cubezzzless likely a worker will be looking at youtube videos :)Mar 16 19:16
MinceRit's not the only environment the workers have access to, though :>Mar 16 19:17
MinceRand once i even found a way to replace it with metacity even though some scripts depended on mwm running first :>Mar 16 19:17
MinceR(i wrote the command to run metacity after it in the script and killed mwm after everything started :> )Mar 16 19:18
cubezzzwell yeah plus you could just run two window managersMar 16 19:18
MinceRon the same display? they'd probably get into a fight :>Mar 16 19:19
cubezzzI'Mar 16 19:31
cubezzzI've had kde and mwm and fvwm work on different displaysMar 16 19:31
MinceRi used kde with fvwm for a while :>Mar 16 19:33
gde33I just remembered an old troll of mine, it seems a sound way arround censorshipMar 16 19:42
gde33if the site admin is to statistic happy you can make urls for his site like example.com?msg=trollololMar 16 19:43
gde33he cant be reasonably expected to discard that informationMar 16 19:43
gde33it is just a log of people visiting his websiteMar 16 19:43
gde33if the other guy also has a website, one can message him backMar 16 19:44
gde33the messages can be quite bigMar 16 19:44
gde33just as long as no anticipating website is configured one cant be blamed for receavingMar 16 19:44
gde33the sender can be hidden easilyMar 16 19:45
gde33solution: make error logging illegalMar 16 19:46
MinceR:>Mar 16 19:46
MinceRor just make running web servers illegal for anyone except state-sanctioned organizationsMar 16 19:46
Sosumihttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/16/us-ukraine-crisis-yatseniuk-idUSBREA2F0E920140316Mar 16 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | Ukraine declares national guard call-up, warns pro-Russia separatists | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gv6d3 ]Mar 16 19:46
cubezzzI usually just say "can you compile your kernel"?Mar 16 19:46
cubezzzthat shuts up most trollsMar 16 19:47
Sosumithis is the third time the coup gov has called the reservistsMar 16 19:47
gde33we already have that on volentary basis, it wouldn't be a big step to make facebook the lawMar 16 19:47
MinceRindeedMar 16 19:47
Sosumiyet no one seems too found of Yats the ratMar 16 19:47
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MinceRhe's not much better than his predecessors, apparentlyMar 16 19:49
MinceRthen again, most of the EU is ruled by EPP membersMar 16 19:49
Sosumihere's the saying I used to mutter when the arab spring was on its highestMar 16 19:50
Sosumi"meet the new boss, same or worst than the previous one"Mar 16 19:50
cubezzzI wish I had a way to go to a particular konsole tabMar 16 19:50
MinceR:>Mar 16 19:51
gde33the overal situation is much more desturbing than any of you/us thinkMar 16 19:51
gde33I'm still recovering from laughter/irony of some guy claiming previous generations made a mess from things, he couldn't be blamed for george bush because he was 12 when he entered office.Mar 16 19:51
gde33that makes it our fault manMar 16 19:51
gde33think about itMar 16 19:51
MinceRi doubt you know how disturbing i think the overall situation is :>Mar 16 19:51
gde33lolMar 16 19:51
SosumiI'm not even a US citizen, how can that be my fault?Mar 16 19:51
Sosumi:)Mar 16 19:51
gde33we didn't pressure the US enoughMar 16 19:51
gde33our guy just noddedMar 16 19:52
MinceRwe and what army?Mar 16 19:52
gde33all this mess, we allowed it to happenMar 16 19:52
Sosumipressure the US with what?Mar 16 19:52
gde33dollarsMar 16 19:52
Sosumilast timer I looked I was still working on my bfg9000Mar 16 19:52
gde33capitalists are easy to get along withMar 16 19:53
gde33all they want is moneyMar 16 19:53
gde33which is nothing but faces printed on bits of paper, or not even thatMar 16 19:53
gde33more agreable a person one couldn't run intoMar 16 19:53
Sosumithen we should pour molten gold into their headsMar 16 19:53
gde33the US is really everyones friendMar 16 19:53
MinceRSosumi: :)Mar 16 19:54
cubezzzAlaska?Mar 16 19:54
Sosumiin order to appease such pplMar 16 19:54
cubezzzthat wasn't too friendlyMar 16 19:54
cubezzzand why the big strip down the west coast??Mar 16 19:54
gde33the financial spectacle is over the last 1 cent of value of the dollar, the euro is annother 1 cent coinMar 16 19:55
cubezzzBoycott Microsoft, that's all I can doMar 16 19:55
gde33make something betterMar 16 19:56
gde33Easier than it sounds, the guru's all say that you have to build a great team to make great things.Mar 16 19:57
MinceRmany people already haveMar 16 19:57
cubezzzBell Labs didMar 16 19:57
gde33Everyone is keeping the fun code assignments for himself, it's a kind of greed. lolMar 16 19:57
gde33look what I'VE made.. etc..Mar 16 19:58
gde33MEMar 16 19:58
cubezzzthat's part of itMar 16 19:58
gde33thats not compatible with sharingMar 16 19:58
cubezzzeveryone likes some recognitionMar 16 19:58
MinceRattribution is very compatible with sharingMar 16 19:58
gde33it only seems that wayMar 16 19:59
gde33the goal should be to write kick ass softwareMar 16 19:59
gde33any aditional goals will go at the expense of thatMar 16 19:59
MinceRunlikelyMar 16 20:00
cubezzzno one remembers who wrote Mosiac :)Mar 16 20:00
MinceRmosaic wasn't that goodMar 16 20:00
gde33measured how?Mar 16 20:00
gde33compared to dos it was like the second comming of cMar 16 20:01
gde33cristMar 16 20:01
MinceRkinky.Mar 16 20:01
cubezzzMosaic, I always spell that wrongMar 16 20:02
gde33the ego issue with open source devMar 16 20:03
gde33take for example: to design the perfect interface one should just make lots of different ones and play test themMar 16 20:03
cubezzzwell Mosaic was better than anything else up to that point in timeMar 16 20:03
gde33not doing that isn't going to produce better resultsMar 16 20:03
MinceRego is one of the driving forces behind free softwareMar 16 20:04
cubezzzpeople just like programmingMar 16 20:04
cubezzzmaking stuffMar 16 20:04
cubezzzit's normalMar 16 20:04
gde33people design an interface, telling them it can be better doesn't interest themMar 16 20:04
MinceRdepends on the peopleMar 16 20:04
gde33so you are stuck with the half working interfaceMar 16 20:05
gde33everyone is doing itMar 16 20:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3769825Mar 16 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: How much of #ukraine is #ukrainian.Mar 16 20:05
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schestowitz"Actually, there are some territories that belong to Romania on this map. Namely, the small southwest part, from the light blue area (called Bugeac - from the Danube to the Dniester) and a smaller part in the north of Romania (a fraction of Maramureș county and of northern Bucovina, including Cernăuți city) http://itravel.md/images/maps/Romania_mare_harta_administrativa_1930.png #romania #moldova #cernauti #bucovina #bukovine #Mar 16 20:05
schestowitzmaramures"Mar 16 20:05
gde33if you run that extra mile you get a kind of appication smoothness we only know from commecial softwareMar 16 20:06
MinceRpatches are often welcomeMar 16 20:06
MinceRand forks are allowedMar 16 20:06
MinceRlol, what smoothness we know from commercial software?Mar 16 20:06
MinceRwhat are you smoking?Mar 16 20:06
gde33thats not the problem, it is that the guy who designed the interface and coded it isn't interested in the idea to do it all over againMar 16 20:06
gde33if he is right about that I dunno, could it be better? of course it could.Mar 16 20:07
MinceRtry telling m$ that their ribbon and metro uis are unusableMar 16 20:07
cubezzzI had some ideasMar 16 20:07
MinceRor were those your examples of "smoothness"?Mar 16 20:07
gde33the commercial software doesn't have the full effectMar 16 20:08
cubezzzI thought you could have a ton of 2-char commands to do all the stuff you do the most oftenMar 16 20:08
gde33foss software could be much more slickMar 16 20:08
MinceRgde33: you can fork them and make them so.Mar 16 20:08
cubezzzyeah you can't always depend on the other guy doing itMar 16 20:08
gde33cubezzz: you are in no way limited to a qerty keyboard to opperate a computerMar 16 20:08
gde33just as long as the new keyboard instructions can be compiled to qwertyMar 16 20:09
cubezzzthat's 65536 combinationsMar 16 20:09
cubezzzmore than enough I'd say :)Mar 16 20:09
gde33maybe the chair should rotate along with the pointer to make the right interfaceMar 16 20:10
cubezzzgde33, I'm an APL user, so I'm already trans-QWERTYMar 16 20:10
cubezzz1960's era computers had additional keypads Mar 16 20:11
gde33c64 had these cool function keys on the rightMar 16 20:11
cubezzzit's not a new idea at allMar 16 20:11
gde33f1 f3 f5 f7Mar 16 20:12
cubezzzin fact, I might just look for a keypad to buyMar 16 20:12
gde33then could hold shift to get the even numbersMar 16 20:12
gde33one would move the applications/functions one would use most often up the menu treeMar 16 20:12
gde33a bit like phones and maps with foldersMar 16 20:13
gde33just with keysMar 16 20:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3769350Mar 16 20:14
gde33but you could learn to press those like morse codeMar 16 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Most laptops don't come with a physical switch with which to disable microphones; same goes for more and more phones wrt batteries.Mar 16 20:14
schestowitz"Just put a stereo plug in the mic socket with no cable....mic does not work !"Mar 16 20:14
schestowitz"Nice one, Nick"Mar 16 20:16
schestowitzThat would be good in preventing tablets/phones turning into listening devices, tooMar 16 20:17
gde33could make one for a hardrive that says "read only" Mar 16 20:20
cubezzzthere's WORM :)Mar 16 20:21
gde33not a bad idea to have laws forMar 16 20:22
gde33a user should have an option to physically switch his listening and recording devices ofMar 16 20:24
MinceRindeedMar 16 20:24
gde33what is to prevent me from equiping every house hold appliance with 360 HD camera view?Mar 16 20:24
gde33bit of always on mesh networking, or it refuses to make coffee/toastMar 16 20:25
cubezzzhey I have a joke...Mar 16 20:27
cubezzz"What happened to the Singularity?"Mar 16 20:28
cubezzzit's right over there.. next to strong AI and the flying car!Mar 16 20:28
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/09/17/deepwater-horizon-final-report-spares-microsoft/  http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/2014/2014_03_16-easy_microsoft_targets/  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3770945Mar 16 20:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@willhill@joindiaspora.com: ### Business Week Covers Up for Microsoft In Target Hack and Misses the Big Story <img src="http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/2014/2014_03_16-easy_microsoft_targets/.llgal/thumb_logos.png"> Remember that epic hack at Target where every card used at every store was stolen for Thanksgiving and Christmas last year? That's probably the reason your bank sent you a new credit card and you had to churn through eveMar 16 20:29
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MinceRwas there a fixed time frame for the singularity? :>Mar 16 20:29
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3770482Mar 16 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Another reason to pay with cash: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-13/target-missed-alarms-in-epic-hack-of-credit-card-data#p1 #security and not just #privacyMar 16 20:29
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gde33the military lost interest when it refused to kill without reasonMar 16 20:29
schestowitz"Mar 16 20:29
schestowitzWrite up with image here and here.Mar 16 20:29
gde33turned out that reason was not the thing they was looking forMar 16 20:29
schestowitzI'm reminded of Microsoft's roll in the BP oil spill disaster and how most of the lamestream press and the final report never mentioned it. I'm growing more convinced that the US government has pushed Microsoft because Microsoft has always been a compliant spy partner and because of the outsized influence a few very wealthy people have over US policy.Mar 16 20:29
schestowitz"Mar 16 20:29
cubezzzthe 60's was so optimistic with the Apollo program and jetpacks Mar 16 20:30
cubezzzbut what did we get instead? Stupid point N grunt tabletsMar 16 20:31
cubezzzand the user interface really hasn't changed a lotMar 16 20:32
cubezzzit's just that more people have access to itMar 16 20:32
gde33it was educated out of the curiulumMar 16 20:35
gde33television is not just television, it is everything people know about the worldMar 16 20:35
cubezzzTelevision actually started off quite wellMar 16 20:40
cubezzzNBC had Vladimir Zworykin on explaining it's principle of operationMar 16 20:41
cubezzzthat was in the late 40'sMar 16 20:41
cubezzzof course, now it's pretty crappy :)Mar 16 20:41
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schestowitz"Mar 16 21:05
schestowitzWrite up with image here and here.Mar 16 21:05
schestowitzI'm reminded of Microsoft's roll in the BP oil spill disaster and how most of the lamestream press and the final report never mentioned it. I'm growing more convinced that the US government has pushed Microsoft because Microsoft has always been a compliant spy partner and because of the outsized influence a few very wealthy people have over US policy.Mar 16 21:05
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_GoblinIt would happen with any large corp....they've too much power to lose if they fall out of favour of governmentMar 16 21:10
_Goblinespecially when you consider all the juicy contracts that MS has with government.... "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine"Mar 16 21:10
cubezzzthat's a package you definitely don't want: Microsoft GovernmentMar 16 21:11
_GoblinI'd go as far to say that when a corporation reaches a certain size AND is entrenched in supplying government, it becomes an extention of government by proxyMar 16 21:11
_Goblinwho do they want to please? the customer.  Who is the customer? the government.Mar 16 21:12
_GoblinI'd more surprised if Microsoft didn't pander to the government....the same would go for Google.Mar 16 21:12
_Goblinremember: "The customer is always right"Mar 16 21:13
qu1j0t3cubezzz: we already have it, in effect.Mar 16 21:15
gde33why didn't it get sold and merged into some existing corp?Mar 16 21:15
cubezzzqu1j0t3, sadly that is true Mar 16 21:15
_GoblinI don't know....look on the bright side......Mar 16 21:18
_GoblinI'll let you know when I've thought of a bright side.....Mar 16 21:19
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 16 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Popcorn Time Is Dead http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/14/popcorn-time-is-dead/ "Hollywood won. The open source project called Popcorn Time is dead"Mar 16 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com | Popcorn Time Is Dead | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gv7nt ]Mar 16 23:34
schestowitz"Surprising to anyone?"Mar 16 23:34
schestowitzThey did it beforeMar 16 23:34
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/445341900409929728Mar 16 23:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz Does it really come as a surprise? - Did anyone actually think that it stood even the remotest possibility of lasting?Mar 16 23:35
schestowitzEven p2p FOSS apps are under attach. Torrent has become synonymous with "piracy" thanks to corporate press.Mar 16 23:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/445342719146065920Mar 16 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz Men who are not misogynists often don't notice the words and actions of those who are. Like bullying, it is often done slyly.Mar 16 23:36
schestowitzThat's a good pointMar 16 23:36
_Goblin"Even p2p FOSS apps are under attach. Torrent has become synonymous with "piracy" thanks to corporate press." - and thats why it shouldn't come as any surprise....Mar 16 23:37
_Goblinhell, even Usenet "trackers" are being targetted and their audience is far more limited than the popular P2P such as BTMar 16 23:38
schestowitzThat's a good pointMar 16 23:38
schestowitz"I wouldn't say dead though"Mar 16 23:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 16 23:39
_GoblinWhat happens though is this......the private trackers (in BT) just tighten up....the stuff gets leaked to the masses on trackers which go up and down....the masses still get their "warez" because for every court order to take down a proxy, in the time it takes to do that, hundreds more can appear....it will soon hit a point where it won't be worth doing....and thats when the trouble starts.Mar 16 23:41
_GoblinAnd here's the trouble....Mar 16 23:41
_GoblinThe copyright parasites say "We don't want to target the users, merely the uploaders - the big boys"....Mar 16 23:41
_Goblineveryone breaths a sigh of relief and thinks what nice people these copyright parasites are....Mar 16 23:42
schestowitzsame thingMar 16 23:42
_Goblinnext up, law gets adapted....(and this will happen)Mar 16 23:42
schestowitzin distribution it's a two-way streetMar 16 23:42
_Goblinto hold ISP's responsible for criminal copyright.Mar 16 23:42
schestowitzIt's like saying you'd only kill the AQ recuiters but you also kill the ones they brainwahMar 16 23:43
_GoblinAs soon as the ISP's are taking the blame for their customers, you'll find a more locked down netMar 16 23:43
schestowitzNo, you force them to censorMar 16 23:43
schestowitzCopyright, "extreme" content...Mar 16 23:43
schestowitzElse they face lawsuitsMar 16 23:43
schestowitzFor not bending overMar 16 23:43
_GoblinCensor.....whatever...the end result is withdrawl of services for the customer.Mar 16 23:43
schestowitzAll this stuff, copyright inc., is perfect coverup for Web censorshipMar 16 23:44
schestowitzAlongside child pr0n and tourrismMar 16 23:44
_GoblinI regard censorship as more to do with opinion/views rather than data of copyrighted material......I use the word prohibit or block for media etcMar 16 23:44
schestowitzyes, usenet access is now more limitedMar 16 23:44
_GoblinBut you are right....Mar 16 23:44
schestowitz!google theregister isp nntpMar 16 23:45
_Goblinits starts with copyright issues...moves on them to freedoms of speech, which to be fair are already gone...Mar 16 23:45
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Europe shrugs off largest DDoS attack yet, traffic tops 400Gbps ... | http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2014/02/11/europe_shrugs_off_largest_ddos_attack_yet_traffic_tops_400gbps/Mar 16 23:45
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schestowitz_Goblin: copyright used to block ideas tooMar 16 23:46
schestowitz!google oxford union assange copyright speechMar 16 23:46
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_Goblinof course.Mar 16 23:46
schestowitz!google copyright wikileaks censorshipMar 16 23:46
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_Goblinschestowitz, Funnily enough I had this conversation with my agent a few weeks back.....in regards to fan fictionMar 16 23:47
_GoblinI personally see it as a hell of a compliment and something to generate more interest in works.Mar 16 23:47
_GoblinI also see the "piracy" of work to be a benefit......infact I spoke with an author who sold a few hundred copies of their books.....they then made their first book free and after that their sales went into the hundreds of thousands.Mar 16 23:48
_GoblinVery shrewd move by their publisherMar 16 23:49
_GoblinI think "piracy" highlights the rubbish and thats why its seen as an enemy..... Harry Potter was pirated to hogwarts and back, but broke box office records because it was decent....the piracy merely assisted the promotion in my view.Mar 16 23:50
_Goblinif you release something awful, piracy highlights that and people are not duped into parting with money.Mar 16 23:50
schestowitzyes, it's pricing and availability strategyMar 16 23:54
schestowitzMS calls it "vouchers"Mar 16 23:55
schestowitzor "donation"Mar 16 23:55
schestowitzrather than "piracy"Mar 16 23:55
schestowitzSimilar effectMar 16 23:55
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 17 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Popcorn Time Is Dead http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/14/popcorn-time-is-dead/ "Hollywood won. The open source project called Popcorn Time is dead"Mar 17 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com | Popcorn Time Is Dead | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gv7nt ]Mar 17 00:06
schestowitz"#whackamole"Mar 17 00:06
_GoblinI think any project which has any impact on hollywood is doomed for failure....unless of course it brings in visible immediate cash to them.....the idea that something "free" could be of benefit would be entirely alien to them.Mar 17 00:12
_Goblinits like trying to convince a dog to stop biting at iritated skin....Mar 17 00:13
cubezzzwell there's always books :)Mar 17 00:17
cubezzzbut 'The Clock' (1945) wasn't a bad movieMar 17 00:18
cubezzza counter example would be 'Primer'Mar 17 00:25
cubezzzdefinitely not Hollywood, but still somewhat of a successMar 17 00:25
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DaemonFChttp://tihe.us/install-google-play-store-and-launcher-for-nokia-x-rooted/Mar 17 01:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tihe.us | Install Google Play Store and Launcher for Nokia X Rooted | High-End News [ http://ur1.ca/gv85z ]Mar 17 01:15
DaemonFCApparently, you can root the Nokia X and install Google Play.Mar 17 01:15
DaemonFCOf course, there's that little problem that it's not actually legal to do that.Mar 17 01:16
DaemonFC:)Mar 17 01:16
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 17 01:34
schestowitz__"inb4 http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/16/popcorn-time-is-back/ "Mar 17 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Popcorn Time Is Back | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gv892 ]Mar 17 01:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu to allow other devices to run its FlymeMar 17 02:00
TweetTuxMachines                 OS? http://t.co/aBDJxiroBLMar 17 02:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meizu to allow other devices to run its Flyme OS? | Tux MachinesMar 17 02:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.15 To Support DRM Render-Nodes ByMar 17 02:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Popcorn Time Is Dead http://t.co/9cJMbRuhOLMar 17 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 3.15 To Support DRM Render-Nodes By Default | Tux MachinesMar 17 02:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Popcorn Time Is Dead | Tux MachinesMar 17 02:00
schestowitz__https://www.devex.com/news/is-gates-foundation-monopolizing-vaccine-research-68075Mar 17 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.devex.com | International Development News | Is Gates Foundation Monopolizing Vaccine Research? [ http://ur1.ca/gvag9 ]Mar 17 06:05
schestowitz__"There may be conflict of interest in several initiatives undertaken by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, especially in its pursuit of malaria vaccine research, Roy Schestowitz writes in the Techrights blog."Mar 17 06:05
schestowitz__I never noticed this article before.Mar 17 06:05
cubezzzdoes Gates try to monopolize? Of course he doesMar 17 06:08
cubezzzthat is his raison de vivre :)Mar 17 06:09
schestowitz__http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/03/don-quijones-round-two-global-financial-sectors-takeover-spain.htmlMar 17 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nakedcapitalism.com | Don Quijones: Round Two Of The Global Financial Sector’s Takeover Of Spain | naked capitalism [ http://ur1.ca/gvawc ]Mar 17 07:59
schestowitz__"Now, with the dust settling from its construction blow-out, Spain is laying out the red carpet for the wingless vultures of Wall Street and the City – vultures like Paul Singer, whose Cayman-registered fund Elliot Management Corporation last year tried its damnedest to trigger a default in Argentina, and is now looking to asset-strip two Galician savings banks."Mar 17 08:00
schestowitz__http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-vampire-squid-strikes-again-the-mega-banks-most-devious-scam-yet-20140212Mar 17 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | The Vampire Squid Strikes Again: The Mega Banks' Most Devious Scam Yet | Politics News | Rolling Stone [ http://ur1.ca/gvawv ]Mar 17 08:00
schestowitz__http://www.euromoney.com/Article/3309317/New-details-emerge-of-Libyas-claim-against-Goldman-Sachs.htmlMar 17 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.euromoney.com | New details emerge of Libya's claim against Goldman Sachs /Euromoney magazine [ http://ur1.ca/gvawy ]Mar 17 08:00
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schestowitz__Sosumi: http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/03/vanishing-plane/Mar 17 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Vanishing Plane [ http://ur1.ca/gvb3w ]Mar 17 08:34
schestowitz__he says exactly what I didMar 17 08:34
schestowitz__"What on earth is the interest of the media in propagating this absolute guff?  South East Asia is highly militarized.  Radar is hardly cutting edge technology.  The idea that a very large plane could overfly China, India or Pakistan without anybody being alerted is an absolute nonsense.  Other countries in the region, such as Burma, Indonesia and the ex-Soviet countries, also have effective airspace surveillance.'Mar 17 08:34
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_GoblinUnless I'm mistaken, isn't there a issue with airtraffic under 200 ft? - Or something like that? it can't be picked up?Mar 17 09:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Distro’s, FOSS and the advocates behindMar 17 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 them – Some food for thought?Mar 17 09:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     UK, Israel sign agreement on open standards,Mar 17 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 open source http://t.co/WF02Ylb9cPMar 17 09:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Distro’s, FOSS and the advocates behind them – Some food for thought? | Tux MachinesMar 17 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UK, Israel sign agreement on open standards, open source | Tux MachinesMar 17 09:37
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gde33to big to flushMar 17 10:50
_Goblinuse a shovel then to soften it up and flush again.Mar 17 11:47
Sosumischestowitz__, I reiterate what I saidMar 17 12:05
Sosumijust ask the intelligence services :)Mar 17 12:05
MinceRgeekingsMar 17 12:06
Sosumiyepi ki yay MinceRMar 17 12:06
MinceRho ho hoMar 17 12:07
Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/17/haunted-empire/Mar 17 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | 'Haunted Empire' Profiles Apple After Steve Jobs as a Company on the Decline - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gvc8r ]Mar 17 12:08
SosumiI had said thatMar 17 12:08
Sosumiand someone now seems to agreeMar 17 12:08
MinceRi've said something similar tooMar 17 12:08
Sosumiwith things like the buttplug pro and the stagnation of iphone OS being two major thingsMar 17 12:09
Sosumias well losing the core markets that have kept crapple alive during the dark daysMar 17 12:10
Sosumiof the pepsi god sculleyMar 17 12:10
Sosumiwell, and not even osx is better than windows anymoreMar 17 12:15
Sosumieven at things like memory managementMar 17 12:15
MinceRafaict it never wasMar 17 12:15
MinceRat least winblows could maximize windows and focus ui widgets via keyboardMar 17 12:16
SosumiI was going to mention how xp sp2 managed to outdo osxMar 17 12:16
Sosumiprevious xp were actually badMar 17 12:16
Sosumieven games, like World of warcraft and ut2k4 would perform better on osxMar 17 12:17
Sosumicrapple did try to get the inner workings in shape with 10.6 back in 2009Mar 17 12:18
Sosumibut then screwed everythingMar 17 12:18
MinceRwas there something they did not screw?Mar 17 12:18
SosumiI don't knowMar 17 12:19
SosumiI was satisfied with tiger and leopardMar 17 12:19
Sosumibut then after snow leopard the direction simply changedMar 17 12:20
Sosumiwith lackluster service packs and then lion came inMar 17 12:20
Sosumiwhich screwed everythingMar 17 12:21
Sosumibasically, lion was just snow leopard with facebook and twitter integrationMar 17 12:21
Sosumiand idiot proofing aquaMar 17 12:21
Sosumiby removing functionalityMar 17 12:22
MinceRthere was functionality that could be removed?Mar 17 12:23
MinceRi thought they were idiot-oriented continuously since the first macintoyMar 17 12:23
Sosumithe current OS can't even go more than 17 days just running virtual machines without displaying erratic behaviourMar 17 12:23
Sosumirequiring you to restartMar 17 12:24
Sosumiyes the first macintoshMar 17 12:24
Sosumibut we're talking about the OS that apple aquired because they couldn't develop their ownMar 17 12:24
Sosumiaka nextstepMar 17 12:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The past year for Joomla! FrameworkMar 17 12:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Time Warner’s Live Chat Doesn’t Speak LinuxMar 17 12:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Popcorn Time Is Back http://t.co/OeP9tmdDq1Mar 17 12:25
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MinceRnext couldn't develop their own eitherMar 17 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The past year for Joomla! Framework | Tux MachinesMar 17 12:25
Sosumi:)Mar 17 12:25
MinceRthey ripped off mach and freebsd and shat all over itMar 17 12:25
SosumiyeahMar 17 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Time Warner’s Live Chat Doesn’t Speak Linux | Tux MachinesMar 17 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Popcorn Time Is Back | Tux MachinesMar 17 12:25
Sosumiconsider just this, the whole point to get a mac beforeMar 17 12:26
Sosumiwas because xp was crapMar 17 12:26
Sosumiand you could get a unix like system that could run all popular softwareMar 17 12:26
MinceRor you could just install gnu/linuxMar 17 12:26
MinceRand get a really unix-like systemMar 17 12:26
MinceRwithout a dumbed-down uiMar 17 12:27
Sosumiyes, but hey, I was like 13 or 14 around thenMar 17 12:27
Sosumiand didn't know what were the equivalents for gnu/linuxMar 17 12:27
Sosumimost of my idea of gnu/linux back then was just for deployment on servers or compute nodesMar 17 12:28
Sosumileaving osx as the only unix like OS that could run almost everyhting windows didMar 17 12:29
Sosumiconsidering all that, the ride was okMar 17 12:31
Sosumiand perhaps my bias with osx now is probably because my needs outgrew its capacity to deliverMar 17 12:31
Sosumiwhich at this moment it just doesn'tMar 17 12:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     App folder configuration http://t.co/raN1UCj0JCMar 17 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | App folder configuration | Tux MachinesMar 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Overview of Kate Editor in KDE 4.12.3Mar 17 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Overview of Kate Editor in KDE 4.12.3 | Tux MachinesMar 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crew assembles three open source vehicles overMar 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 lunch http://t.co/75vQQhozWKMar 17 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crew assembles three open source vehicles over lunch | Tux MachinesMar 17 13:03
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Sosumihttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-17/obama-issues-executive-order-freezing-assets-seven-putin-aidesMar 17 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Obama Issues Executive Order Freezing Assets Of Seven Putin Aides | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gvcvd ]Mar 17 14:02
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Sosumihttp://enenews.com/record-cesium-levels-detected-ocean-fukushima-plant-spikes-6900-bqliter-detected-day-beforeMar 17 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enenews.com | Record cesium levels in Pacific Ocean north of Fukushima plant — Spikes to 6,900 Bq/m³ from ‘not detected’ in one day — Previous high went unmatched for last 9 months [ http://ur1.ca/gvdg4 ]Mar 17 15:35
Sosumiis spongebob glowing already?Mar 17 15:36
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3773421Mar 17 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Stallman Accepts #Twitter http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/03/16/stallman-accepts-twitter/Mar 17 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Stallman Accepts Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gve2a ]Mar 17 17:08
schestowitz__"Please use #NSFW"Mar 17 17:08
schestowitz__Why?Mar 17 17:08
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3773527Mar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #billgates still a hero in his own mind http://dailygadgetry.com/bill-gates-thinks-snowden-is-no-hero-for-leaking-nsa-documents/3284 committing crimes himself, then needing #nsa for his protectionMar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dailygadgetry.com | Bill Gates Thinks Snowden is no Hero for Leaking NSA Documents – Daily Gadgetry [ http://ur1.ca/gve2j ]Mar 17 17:10
schestowitz__"Ho well this it is amazing :D"Mar 17 17:10
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Popcorn Time Is Dead http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/14/popcorn-time-is-dead/ "Hollywood won. The open source project called Popcorn Time is dead"Mar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com | Popcorn Time Is Dead | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gv7nt ]Mar 17 17:10
schestowitz__https#whatisaid://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 17 17:10
schestowitz__"#whatisaid"Mar 17 17:10
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3769825Mar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: How much of #ukraine is #ukrainian.Mar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by rocapc@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_9826b78f2a6bc1ce8d03.jpgMar 17 17:10
schestowitz__"Yes, the map doesn't really mean anything on its own. It's just a snapshot of a particular point in history of territory that has changed hands many many times."Mar 17 17:10
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3774211Mar 17 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ow can any news network maintain credibility when ads get embedded in stories, people who write have a favoured (by publisher) agenda?Mar 17 17:11
schestowitz__1Hard to believe "cow" is not a part of this post."Mar 17 17:11
schestowitz__Firefox for Android sucks :-)Mar 17 17:11
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3774256Mar 17 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK media today is not even trying to give pro-Russia crowd a voiceMar 17 17:11
schestowitz__"Why would they need a voice , mother russia gave rhem guns ?"Mar 17 17:12
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3775277Mar 17 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #firefox for #android still buggy enough in some places to really drive the user nuts. Also, #privacy not enabled by default. #mozillaMar 17 17:12
schestowitz__""still buggy enough in some places" is a nice word for "fucking crap" ;)"Mar 17 17:12
schestowitz__textbox editing is messed up in very bad waysMar 17 17:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source project builds mobile networksMar 17 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 without big carriers http://t.co/KALLcWVT5yMar 17 17:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source project builds mobile networks without big carriers | Tux MachinesMar 17 17:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What’s New In Python 3.4 http://t.co/tPOW0fqHzDMar 17 17:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What’s New In Python 3.4 | Tux MachinesMar 17 17:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inside Linux Lite - An interview with JerryMar 17 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Bezencon http://t.co/QY3fJETHH4Mar 17 17:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Inside Linux Lite - An interview with Jerry Bezencon | Tux MachinesMar 17 17:23
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Sosumihttp://enenews.com/video-company-that-runs-wipp-reveals-plume-of-radiation-spread-to-population-center-says-its-like-licking-your-iphone-charger-mother-they-dont-want-the-people-to-perhaps-knowMar 17 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enenews.com | Video: Company that runs WIPP reveals plume of radiation spread to population center — Compares it to “licking your iPhone charger” — Mother: “They don’t want the people to perhaps know the extent of what went wrong” [ http://ur1.ca/gvejy ]Mar 17 18:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat's Stubbornness Will Keep OpenShiftMar 17 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Alive http://t.co/58Ux7vspAgMar 17 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel Developer Panel Preview:Mar 17 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Introductions and ProjectsMar 17 18:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat's Stubbornness Will Keep OpenShift Alive | Tux MachinesMar 17 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Developer Panel Preview: Introductions and Projects | Tux MachinesMar 17 18:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.14-rc7 http://t.co/vsUREfIA1xMar 17 19:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     This Week Is GDC: Great News For Linux GamersMar 17 19:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Weston Gets Tailored For Tizen IVI, Car MakersMar 17 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Fond Of Wayland http://t.co/h9vYwROGIfMar 17 19:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 3.14-rc7 | Tux MachinesMar 17 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Week Is GDC: Great News For Linux Gamers | Tux MachinesMar 17 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weston Gets Tailored For Tizen IVI, Car Makers Fond Of Wayland | Tux MachinesMar 17 19:23
Sosumiand just got another propaganda mail from nvidiaMar 17 19:36
Sosumithis time about gameworksMar 17 19:36
Sosumiwhich has no version for gnu/linuxMar 17 19:36
Sosumiand it is all integrated into visual studioMar 17 19:36
Sosumihow awesome, notMar 17 19:36
Sosumiand so much for bringing gaming to gnu/linuxMar 17 19:57
Sosumiwhen their particles toolbox, phys?Mar 17 19:57
Sosumiis windows onlyMar 17 19:58
Sosumiwith limited support at least for previous generation consolesMar 17 19:58
Sosumisince that remounts the time when nvidia bought ageiaMar 17 19:58
Sosumi*boughtMar 17 19:58
Sosumiwhich made a "physics" accelerator cardMar 17 19:59
Sosumiwhich nvidia killed and re-introduced the functionality when they launched the 8800gt cards and cudaMar 17 20:00
cubezzznvidia engineering isn't that greatMar 17 20:03
cubezzzaside from software issues, they get really hotMar 17 20:03
cubezzzI don't want a video card running at 80C+ :)Mar 17 20:14
Sosumiamd's runner hotterMar 17 20:25
Sosumi*runMar 17 20:25
Sosumiand their eng is much worseMar 17 20:26
cubezzzthis box has intel 810Mar 17 20:34
cubezzz:)Mar 17 20:34
cubezzzthe other box is R300 CPU, it's 2002 eraMar 17 20:37
cubezzzbefore ATI went defunctMar 17 20:37
Sosumijust out of curiosityMar 17 20:39
Sosumiwhat display are you sing?Mar 17 20:39
Sosumi*usingMar 17 20:39
cubezzzon this computer it's an Acer LCDMar 17 20:40
Sosumiso, no green phosphorous crtMar 17 20:40
Sosumi:PMar 17 20:40
cubezzzeven in 1985 I was running colour :)Mar 17 20:41
cubezzzthat monitor still works too, made by ToshibaMar 17 20:41
cubezzzLongevity is important to meMar 17 20:41
cubezzzonly time will tell how long the LCD lastsMar 17 20:47
Sosumiusually 30k hoursMar 17 20:47
Sosumiunless it is led backlitMar 17 20:47
cubezzzhow long do you figure in terms of years, assuming normal use?Mar 17 20:48
Sosumiwell ofcMar 17 20:48
Sosumiburn timeMar 17 20:48
cubezzzsay average of 10 hours per day, 365 days a yearMar 17 20:49
cubezzzthat would be about 8 years then?Mar 17 20:49
cubezzzof course the Toshiba doesn't get used that much nowMar 17 20:50
Sosumi10*365=3650Mar 17 20:50
cubezzzprobably more like a few hours per month of classic computingMar 17 20:50
*amarsh04 runs a radeon 9200se in this machineMar 17 20:50
Sosumi3650*8=29200Mar 17 20:51
Sosumiwith that kind of usage, aprox 8 yearsMar 17 20:51
Sosumicrt age differentlyMar 17 20:51
cubezzzit's an AL1715 and I forget when I got itMar 17 20:52
Sosumiand has to do with the reactive coat at the bottom of the bottleMar 17 20:52
Sosumiso as the phosphorous wears out so does the screen lose brightnessMar 17 20:52
Sosumiif it isn't something else that goes gagaMar 17 20:53
Sosumiand the display starts displaying a green or purple tintMar 17 20:53
Sosumilike my last crt didMar 17 20:53
cubezzzstill working since 1985 isn't too shabbyMar 17 20:53
Sosumiwho's the manufacturer of the display itself?Mar 17 20:54
Sosumireally toshibaMar 17 20:54
cubezzzyes, ToshibaMar 17 20:54
Sosumior just a sony or samsung rebrandMar 17 20:54
cubezzzI opened it up and looked at the boards Mar 17 20:54
cubezzzAmiga 1080Mar 17 20:55
cubezzzthis Acer has to be at least 10 years (I think)Mar 17 20:58
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SosumikewlMar 17 21:01
Sosumibut you only really notice the brightness decreases if you're doing color accuracy workMar 17 21:01
Sosumior do measurements with a colorimeterMar 17 21:01
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SosumiI for example still have an old 20 inches ips display with a ccfl backlight from 2004Mar 17 21:03
Sosumiand when it finally saw some rest in 2009, it did no longer have the same brightness outputMar 17 21:04
Sosumiand the same I can say for my current displayMar 17 21:05
Sosumithat even with the same panels and being of the exact same revisionMar 17 21:06
Sosumitheir brightness outputs are different at the same lvlMar 17 21:06
Sosumiwith one display having 16227 hours of use and the other 14087Mar 17 21:07
cubezzzhow is it you know the hours so accurately? Mar 17 21:07
Sosumithe displays in question are hp lp2475wMar 17 21:07
Sosumibecause these are professional displaysMar 17 21:08
Sosumiand you need to factor burn in when calibratingMar 17 21:08
Sosumiso, it says the hours of use on the osdMar 17 21:09
cubezzzinterestingMar 17 21:09
Sosuminot that I really need much of color accuracy, but at least my eyes don't feel as tired at the end of the dayMar 17 21:10
Sosumithan when they feel when using crappy TN panels or having to look at over saturated colorsMar 17 21:11
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Sosumihttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-17/putin-strikes-back-russias-sanctions-list-said-include-us-senators-high-ranking-admiMar 17 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Putin Strikes Back: Russia's Sanctions List Said To Include US Senators, High Ranking Administration Officials | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gvfmy ]Mar 17 21:20
Sosumicouldn't they fix it on the ring?Mar 17 21:20
Sosumia re-enactment of Ivan Drago vs Rocky BalboaMar 17 21:21
SosumiPutin vs ObomberMar 17 21:21
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SosumignMar 17 21:47
MinceRo/Mar 17 21:49
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DaemonFCshared a link.Mar 17 22:40
DaemonFC2 minutes ago · EditedMar 17 22:40
DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/17/1285450/-CNN-asks-whether-maybe-God-stole-Flight-370Mar 17 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailykos.com | CNN asks whether maybe God stole Flight 370 [ http://ur1.ca/gvg31 ]Mar 17 22:40
DaemonFCLOLWUT!?Mar 17 22:40
DaemonFCI'm not saying it was aliens, but I think it was aliens. Maybe if we use our phasers and photon torpedoes next time, it will stop them...Mar 17 22:40
_GoblinWell since God isn't human, wasn't born on this planet I suppose if you believe in him then he is an alien.Mar 17 22:41
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cubezzzold but worth a look:Mar 18 00:19
cubezzzhttp://slated.org/more_microsoft_dirty_tricks_historyMar 18 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-slated.org | More Microsoft Dirty Tricks History | Slated [ http://ur1.ca/gvgq9 ]Mar 18 00:19
_GoblinMicrosoft dirty tricks? I don't believe it......Mar 18 00:19
cubezzz_more_ microsoft dirty tricks, sort of DT 2.0 :)Mar 18 00:20
_Goblin:)Mar 18 00:20
_GoblinIs there any trick of Microsoft that is anything but dirty?Mar 18 00:20
cubezzzI can't think of any since the original Microsoft BASIC was the product of dumpster diving and stolen PDP-10 computer timeMar 18 00:21
cubezzzI've got commented source for a lot of OSesMar 18 00:23
cubezzzold IBM mainframe stuff, lots of Unix, Haiku, FreeDOS, DEC RT-11 evenMar 18 00:24
cubezzzbut commented Microsoft OS code... nothingMar 18 00:24
cubezzzwhat about Singularity you may ask... well not really openMar 18 00:29
cubezzzShared SourceMar 18 00:30
_GoblinDid you see RMS and his views on Twitter?Mar 18 00:33
cubezzznoMar 18 00:33
_GoblinIts one of Roy's video interviewsMar 18 00:34
_Goblinvery interesting, only about a minute long...Mar 18 00:34
_GoblinRoy did well with that one..... I don't think there's much RMS gives a thumbs up to, so when he does its worth listening.Mar 18 00:35
cubezzzlink?Mar 18 00:35
_Gobliner...standbyMar 18 00:35
_Goblinhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/03/16/stallman-accepts-twitter/Mar 18 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Stallman Accepts Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gve2a ]Mar 18 00:36
cubezzzhuh, didn't think Stallman would like twitterMar 18 00:36
_Goblinyes...welllMar 18 00:36
cubezzzthanks for the linkMar 18 00:37
_Goblinits ok if you use an opensource client.Mar 18 00:37
_Goblinso I take it Facebook gets his thumbs up because there's many open source clients for that.... Bloo-Too is one.Mar 18 00:37
_GoblinMust admit it surprised me.....of all things, Twitter was not what I expected him to approve of.Mar 18 00:38
_Goblinhe's against G+ because it demands real names.....that might be the case but I've always used a fake (and often very silly one)Mar 18 00:39
cubezzzuser land is basically fairly well offMar 18 00:39
_Goblinwhat I don't get is that he doesn't want to give his real name to G+, but presumably he had to give his name onto a database when he flew to the UK.....Mar 18 00:39
cubezzzhe's famous for goodness sakes :)Mar 18 00:40
cubezzzat least in certain circlesMar 18 00:40
_GoblinHis real name would have been demanded at the airport....they get a bit funny if you refuse.Mar 18 00:40
cubezzzI'm more worried about this: http://www.maxhost.org/other/secure-boot.txtMar 18 00:41
_Goblinyes....its not made simple is it.Mar 18 00:41
_Goblinbut then are we not seeing the decline of the desktop to everyone but those already in the know?Mar 18 00:42
cubezzzwell I haven't really got hit by this yet myself, but other people have told me their experiences with itMar 18 00:42
_Goblini'd say its damage is limited now since the mainstream are off with tablets and such like...Mar 18 00:42
cubezzzI'm not the best person to ask about smartphone and tablet stuffMar 18 00:42
cubezzzI never use either Mar 18 00:42
_GoblinI must admit to preferring my desktop for 99% of productive stuff.Mar 18 00:43
_Goblinand I can't fathom touch keyboards and predictive text.Mar 18 00:43
cubezzzI use APL, so :)Mar 18 00:44
cubezzzjust imagine that on a tablet :)Mar 18 00:44
_GoblinI'll tell you what I found out the other day....I can plug a usb keyboard straight into the PS3.......Mar 18 00:44
_Goblinnever knewMar 18 00:44
_Goblinnot that I used it much except for the odd game.Mar 18 00:44
cubezzzyes, some folks were running Linux on PS3 yes?Mar 18 00:45
_Goblinyeah the old modelsMar 18 00:45
cubezzznever tried that myselfMar 18 00:45
_GoblinI think one of the updates years ago scuppered that featureMar 18 00:45
cubezzzI think there's a much less percentage of computer users now who are programmersMar 18 00:45
cubezzzso my view is really a minority viewMar 18 00:46
_Goblinyes and no.... I think there are more programmers but fewer that can actually codeMar 18 00:46
_Goblineveryone is giving it a go and with all the high level languages about people think after their first "hello world" program that they are l33t coders.Mar 18 00:47
_GoblinMy coding days left me after the amiga.......Mar 18 00:47
_Goblinaround 1990 I thinkMar 18 00:47
cubezzzthe jump from programming c64 to amiga was pretty bigMar 18 00:48
_Goblinbut then we had 720k to play with and standardized hardware to code for so it was a much simpler task.Mar 18 00:48
cubezzzthat's trueMar 18 00:48
_GoblinI got on well with 68k..... used Devpac 2 and Argasm......preferred Devpac thoughMar 18 00:49
cubezzzthe learning curve is definitely steeper nowMar 18 00:49
_Goblinor shallower if you look at all the premade libraries, bindings etcMar 18 00:49
cubezzzno forays into xlib or device drivers? :)Mar 18 00:49
_Goblinpygame for example.....Mar 18 00:49
cubezzzI think netbsd runs on some AmigasMar 18 00:50
_GoblinI think the problem with todays coder and all the dev tools is that people know how to code something but don't understand why it works.Mar 18 00:50
_Goblinand its the understanding which hampers originality and creativity.Mar 18 00:50
cubezzzthat's been the case for a long timeMar 18 00:51
_Goblinon the Amiga except for Dpaint, there was nothing to assist at all.Mar 18 00:51
_Goblinand a paint package doesn't really count.Mar 18 00:51
cubezzzone needs to go back to discrete components, pre-Microprocessor era, to really understand what's going onMar 18 00:51
_Goblinexactly...Mar 18 00:51
_Goblinand it was that understanding that created coders like David Braben and his amazing Elite game.Mar 18 00:52
_Goblinthat level of skill is lost on this generation.Mar 18 00:52
_Goblinand in making things simpler and handing things on a plate, many coders are ignorant and lazyMar 18 00:52
abeNd-orgwho needs skill when you have basically click & drag programming & 8gigs of ram?Mar 18 00:53
_Goblinexactly...Mar 18 00:53
_Goblinuntil someone wants a variation on that feature and you find you have no clue how to do anything other than what is provided to you.Mar 18 00:53
cubezzzsomeone still has to program the DDX driver :)Mar 18 00:53
_Goblinand they are the minority serving the majorityMar 18 00:53
_Goblinin the days of the amiga, you did it yourself or not at all.Mar 18 00:54
_Goblinand you had more coders, who actually understood what was happening under the hood.Mar 18 00:54
cubezzzI think there were a few compiled C and Basic games for AmigaMar 18 00:54
abeNd-orgnot too many programmers out there like steve gibson anymoreMar 18 00:54
_Goblinand don't forget AMOSMar 18 00:54
_Goblinor as we called it LAMEOSMar 18 00:54
_GoblinScrolltext x,y,speed "This is a fancy scrolltext in a bitmap font"......Mar 18 00:55
_Goblinthats what LAMOS provided....Mar 18 00:55
cubezzzdo you still use your amiga?Mar 18 00:55
_Goblinand sort of highlights the point, everyone could then use one line to make a scroll text.....ask those people to get the scroll text to follow a sine wave instead of a straight path and they are lost.Mar 18 00:56
cubezzzI fire mine up a couple of times per month :)Mar 18 00:56
_Goblinnot really....Mar 18 00:56
_Goblinuse the emulators a little...Mar 18 00:56
_Goblinlook at some of my old crews works....Mar 18 00:56
_Goblinnostalgia .....Mar 18 00:57
_GoblinI remember when Fairlight (or arch enemies at the time) took Operation Wolf (the game) and reduced it from three disks to 1 on their release......we were mad....Mar 18 00:57
_Goblinand I remember stuffing up Shadow of the Beast before it hit Dawnraid BBS.....that was embarassing...Mar 18 00:58
cubezzzI actually bought some amiga gamesMar 18 00:59
cubezzzthat era seemed to go by very fastMar 18 01:01
cubezzzI've been programming xlib and motif for over 10 years nowMar 18 01:04
cubezzzAmiga era for me was like 1987 to 1992Mar 18 01:04
cubezzzbut learning device dependent X is pretty hardMar 18 01:06
cubezzzyou have to be pretty dedicated learning all that stuffMar 18 01:06
cubezzzyou should give xlib a try though, it's not too hard to pick upMar 18 01:08
_Goblinyouth.....its a long time ago, couldn't do it now.Mar 18 01:18
_GoblinI just wrote silly little intro's....that sort of thing.Mar 18 01:18
_Goblinthe big players in the demoscene were Cryonics, RSI et alMar 18 01:18
DaemonFCI wish they'd bring back 85 octane gas.Mar 18 02:06
DaemonFCWhatever happened to that? I used to run my car on it all the time with no knocks or pings.Mar 18 02:07
DaemonFC5 cents per gallon cheaperMar 18 02:07
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DaemonFChttps://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1795600_784255024918811_690145953_n.jpgMar 18 03:19
DaemonFCIn 1970, $12,000 ($72,345.15 in 2014 dollars) was middle class.Mar 18 03:22
DaemonFCIn 2014, it's about what most people make if they work at Walmart. In 2014 dollars.Mar 18 03:22
DaemonFCIt's clear that Walmart employees need to stop complaining and break into the Scientology Center in Clearwater Florida, and steal the time machine, being careful at all times not to fall into the bottomless pit, so that they can go back 44 years to when their Walmart wages bought something.Mar 18 03:22
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DaemonFChttp://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2013/04/05/epa-will-increase-gasoline-prices-and-reduce-fuel-economy-in-bid-to-further-reduce-sulfur-in-gasoline/Mar 18 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.instituteforenergyresearch.org | EPA’s Tier 3 Will Increase Gasoline Prices and Reduce Fuel Economy | Institute for Energy Research [ http://ur1.ca/gvht0 ]Mar 18 03:45
DaemonFCSo, what the hell....Mar 18 03:45
DaemonFCAs far as I can tell, this E15 and Tier 3 gas will ruin your engine, cost 10 cents per gallon more, and reduce your fuel mileage.Mar 18 03:46
DaemonFCThe tier 2 standard might have already reduced fuel mileage by up to 6%.Mar 18 03:46
DaemonFC(because sulfur lubricates the engine)Mar 18 03:46
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Mar 18 04:45
DaemonFCOf course, you know, it's Walmart steak.Mar 18 04:45
DaemonFCI have a theory that the process for making it involves recycling tires.Mar 18 04:45
DaemonFCNow you know why Walmart shoppers are missing some teeth. Mar 18 04:45
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/445875560787755008Mar 18 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz I'm in IRC, I'll see if I can sort something. I've got a meeting/lunch for work, but after that....Mar 18 10:58
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/445875977579941888Mar 18 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz I find myself "dismissing" all the promoted posts - utter rubbish and a worrying direction for Twitter.Mar 18 10:59
schestowitz___Goblin: what time then?Mar 18 10:59
schestowitz__I need to check that old handset againMar 18 10:59
schestowitz__I lost track ofthe whole process, switching off phones and stuffMar 18 10:59
Sosumiso crimea is now part of the russian federationMar 18 11:12
SosumiofficiallyMar 18 11:12
_Goblinschestowitz__, I'll be back after my lunch and I'll arrange something then...I'll still be on twiter on my phone but I'll be out of IRCMar 18 11:12
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/445862531035570176  https://twitter.com/nilsgeylen/status/445879534030966784 Mar 18 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Has #google yet automatically gone as far as automatic face recognition in automatically-uploaded photos (Facebook)? #datagrab #surveillanceMar 18 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nilsgeylen: @schestowitz Probably but not as a public feature?Mar 18 11:12
schestowitz__I remember reading about Google and #facerec (perhaps Google Labs experiment or a startup acquisition), but not much moreMar 18 11:13
schestowitz__cool, I'll wait aroundMar 18 11:13
_Goblinit will be after about 2ishMar 18 11:17
Sosumiand say that apple and ms aren't a duopolyMar 18 11:19
Sosumifreshly released OneNote programMar 18 11:19
Sosumiis labeled as editor«s choice on the osx app storeMar 18 11:19
schestowitz___Goblin: do you have recording s/w?Mar 18 11:27
schestowitz__I might need to use and install some new s/w, it's a ;aptop that I'm on now, the desktop is not reliable. Anyway, we'll talk about it laterMar 18 11:28
_GoblinI've got immediate access to skype and mumble.....Mar 18 11:33
_Goblinor phone?Mar 18 11:33
DaemonFCI usually don't go this long with a PC, but I just don't see where things have improved enough since 2009 to justify buying a new one.Mar 18 11:54
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schestowitz___Goblin: is the mumble recorder working now?Mar 18 12:01
schestowitz__IIRC you had it working on hyour versionMar 18 12:01
schestowitz__1.2 or something like thatMar 18 12:01
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_GoblinNot sure......I've used mumble with Gordon, but he recorded...Mar 18 12:02
_GoblinI think I've got the latest release....thats on my other installation so I can't say at moment.Mar 18 12:03
_Goblinwhat options you got?Mar 18 12:03
schestowitz__let me see what version of mumble i can fetchMar 18 12:05
schestowitz__are you still going to the US?Mar 18 12:06
schestowitz__I got 1.2.3Mar 18 12:07
schestowitz__I have a recor buttonMar 18 12:07
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schestowitz__So I think we'll be good to go, I just need to configure itMar 18 12:07
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_GoblinI'll check it when I returnMar 18 12:28
schestowitz__I got my USB headset around now, just need to configure mumble with the wizard and test the recording featureMar 18 12:37
schestowitz___Goblin: will you consider making this a  weekly, monthly thing again? We really did have some large audience for a Linux (niche) show, and now there's more traffic around the sitesMar 18 12:37
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MinceRgeekingsMar 18 12:52
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_rvt_np?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx297APCJKQVR1X#CustomerDiscussionsNewMar 18 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Walmart's Made in USA campaign exposed as a worthless gimmick. [ http://ur1.ca/gvlb3 ]Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFChttp://www.today.com/money/testing-wal-marts-made-usa-campaign-2D11678842Mar 18 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.today.com | Testing Wal-Mart's Made in the USA campaign - TODAY.com [ http://ur1.ca/gvlb4 ]Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFCWalmart's Made in USA campaign has been exposed as a worthless gimmick.Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFCMost of the items listed on their website aren't actually sold in stores, and the ones that are, are things like groceries, household chemicals, toiletries, and other things that Walmart has been selling all along.Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFCWhen the reporters went to try to find the substantial goods that were "Made in USA" and sold in stores, they found that none of them were actually sold at any stores in driving range.Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFCThe reporter eventually found a set of cooking skillets that had Made in USA signage decorating the display, only to find that they were actually "Engineered in USA / Made in China". It looks like another Apple business method has spread.... Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFCIt seems that Microsoft has found another way to bribe people into using Bing.Mar 18 13:50
DaemonFCThey're offering 100 GB of "cloud" storage if you use Bing for a certain number of searches.Mar 18 13:50
DaemonFCLet the search for A, AA, AAA, AAAA, AAAAA, AAAAA, AAAAAA, and AAAAAAA commence!Mar 18 13:51
MinceRooh, i get to hand my data to m$ for free?Mar 18 13:51
MinceRwhere do i sign up?Mar 18 13:51
DaemonFCMinceR: With prices as cheap as Microsoft and Google are offering, you know who is subsidizing this....Mar 18 13:52
DaemonFCThe NSA is offering co-branded cloud storage.Mar 18 13:52
DaemonFCThe NSA provides the servers, and Google and Microsoft provide the front.Mar 18 13:53
MinceR:>Mar 18 13:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source forum 2014, a firstMar 18 14:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gfAbSiWZyeMar 18 14:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gvledMar 18 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source forum 2014, a first | Tux MachinesMar 18 14:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     TN state departments asked to switch over toMar 18 14:02
TweetTuxMachines                 open source software http://t.co/OcJ8A3OqC4Mar 18 14:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gvleeMar 18 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TN state departments asked to switch over to open source software | Tux MachinesMar 18 14:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The easiest way to turn your app idea into anMar 18 14:03
TweetTuxMachines                 appliance http://t.co/cGxtwzXS7BMar 18 14:03
DaemonFCCome on. Do you really think that they could make a profit by giving you 100 GB of storage for the price of a large fountain soda?Mar 18 14:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gvlefMar 18 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The easiest way to turn your app idea into an appliance | Tux MachinesMar 18 14:03
DaemonFCWho thinks that?Mar 18 14:03
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satipera@schestowitz hi roy, other people are picking up on red matrix, https://www.newschallenge.org/challenge/2014/submissions/the-red-matrix?zid=satipera%40friendicared.net if you support this effort please spread the wordMar 18 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newschallenge.org | News Challenge - How can we strengthen the Internet for free expression and innovation? - The Red Matrix [ http://ur1.ca/gvlfu ]Mar 18 14:10
Sosumihttp://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/18-03-2014/127127-eu_aid-0/Mar 18 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-english.pravda.ru | EU aid destroyed Portugal - English pravda.ru [ http://ur1.ca/gvlg6 ]Mar 18 14:12
Sosumidebt moratorium and new deal for europe, when? neverMar 18 14:13
SosumilolMar 18 14:13
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satiperaps @schestowitz tuxmachines appears now to have more output than techrights, is it now the main project?Mar 18 14:25
schestowitz__no, they're different Mar 18 14:27
schestowitz__one has original posts, takes much more timeMar 18 14:27
schestowitz__I am going to write sone original works later todayMar 18 14:28
DaemonFCAccording to Walmart.com, a small business that makes scented candles for Walmart employs 60 Americans.Mar 18 14:31
DaemonFCThat's twice as many permanent jobs as Keystone XL, with no oil spills.Mar 18 14:32
DaemonFCSosumi: The US government is in deep shit.Mar 18 14:33
DaemonFCThey're resorting to accounting tricks to hide the debt.Mar 18 14:33
DaemonFCThe Federal Reserve buys government bonds and puts them on its balance sheet, to keep them off the market and drive interest rates down.Mar 18 14:34
DaemonFCIt doesn't cost the Federal Reserve anything. The government pays the interest on the bonds. The Federal Reserve pays the interest money back to the Treasury, which puts it back into the budget.Mar 18 14:35
DaemonFCThat much is sort of how the public banking system of Canada used to work.Mar 18 14:35
DaemonFCUntil the 1970s, when the central bank was privatized.Mar 18 14:35
_Goblinschestowitz__, Right, I'm back...Just need to sort a few things out.....Mar 18 14:35
DaemonFCThose bonds are sitting there at the Fed, and it's doubtful that the private banks that run the Fed are amused at the idea of eating all of it.Mar 18 14:36
DaemonFCA few Congress Critters noted that the government could cancel the debt by passing a law declaring all of the bonds at the Fed void, but that's not gonna happen.Mar 18 14:36
DaemonFCIt'd be a neat way of canceling $3 trillion of debt, but it's not gonna happen. :)Mar 18 14:36
DaemonFCWho thinks that Congress is going to tell a bunch of banksters to eat $3 trillion?Mar 18 14:37
DaemonFCThere's no limit to how much the Fed's balance sheet can grow. That's one of the things that's wrong with our money system.Mar 18 14:38
DaemonFCIt has been sucking the toxic sludge out of the system, but the toxic sludge is still there.Mar 18 14:39
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445931978588962816Mar 18 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz This is the basis for her complaint: You need to listen to her 40 minute speech. CIA CG filed a criminal complaint with DOJ.Mar 18 14:40
DaemonFCThey're going to put the vacuum cleaner into reverse and pump the toxic sludge back out into the system as soon as they figure out how to repackage it.Mar 18 14:40
schestowitz___Goblin: okMar 18 14:40
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445932406273753088  https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445932606941835264Mar 18 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz "Justice Department Has FBI Investigate Senate Staffers for ‘Unauthorized Removal’ of CIA Torture Docs" http://t.co/M7V8hFI5ZBMar 18 14:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz This is why she's complaining about CIA spying. Feinstein's press-complaint is her response to the CIA prosecuting her staff.Mar 18 14:40
schestowitz__Somehow I missed that. So now we know she doesn't genuinely care about abuses, only retributionMar 18 14:41
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445932910009671682Mar 18 14:42
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schestowitz__"Right now, her staffers are all paying for expensive attorneys. Feinstein press-complained, so DOJ probably won't investigate."Mar 18 14:43
DaemonFCSomeone posted about a guy getting a $400,000 hospital bill. I had a $12,000 ER bill once.Mar 18 14:43
DaemonFCThe damndest thing happened. After not paying it, they eventually wrote it off. Next year, it'll be off my credit report.Mar 18 14:43
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445933530393362432Mar 18 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz If Feinstein hadn'tve complained (abt investigation) SSCI staff could have wound-up with 100k legal bills like @JesselynRadack.Mar 18 14:44
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445933738674098176Mar 18 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz This is why she's claiming constitutional separation of powers violation.CIA put SSCI under investigation for investigating CIAMar 18 14:45
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445931978588962816Mar 18 14:45
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445928574839963648Mar 18 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz You think? They put her staff under investigation.Mar 18 14:46
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445934163502579712Mar 18 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz Dude - that's the whole story. Feinstein's reaction is complex. I have my own beef with her; She had my case in-hand in 2008.Mar 18 14:46
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445934450787221504Mar 18 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz Her SSCI Staff Director was my contact for her. She/he dropped my case as I was DOJ-investigated Now he's under investigation.Mar 18 14:47
schestowitz__Well, good luck getting new citizenshipMar 18 14:48
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445934674536574976Mar 18 14:49
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445934881798111232Mar 18 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz The bottom-line is that anyone who complains about US-IC behavior gets DOJ-investigated. Feinstein just "got a wake-up call".Mar 18 14:49
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445932910009671682Mar 18 14:50
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445935229245865985Mar 18 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz Asylum does NOT mean dropping US citizenship.Mar 18 14:51
schestowitz__Asylum from what in your case?Mar 18 14:51
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DaemonFCThe idea of obesity as a disease really pisses me off.Mar 18 14:55
DaemonFCThere's too many people like my stepdad out there, eating cake frosting with a spoon.Mar 18 14:55
SosumiDaemonFC, it's called creative economicsMar 18 14:55
Sosumidon't folks that have given up on getting a job also drop out of the unemployment rateMar 18 14:56
Sosumisame thing hereMar 18 14:56
DaemonFCWell, there's systems that hand them money and say it's for a different reason.Mar 18 15:01
DaemonFCIf you believe that half of an entire town in Kentucky is on permanent disability because they're disabled, I'll sell you the Brooklyn Bridge for $2.Mar 18 15:01
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445937857858142208Mar 18 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz EFF and ACLU have no jurisdiction in this case, most of it involved secret law, secret orders, and crazy official US behavior.Mar 18 15:01
Sosumiis the brooklyn bridge falling off?Mar 18 15:02
DaemonFCObama was BEGGING Congress to extend emergency unemployment benefits, because he SAID that the next thing that most of them do after they lose them is file for disability.Mar 18 15:02
Sosumilike pretty much all US utilitiesMar 18 15:03
DaemonFCThey see it as a lottery.Mar 18 15:03
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445938240844226560Mar 18 15:03
DaemonFCHalf of them will eventually get it.Mar 18 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz Half the game was to get me deported to the US where I'd have had no legal rights. And the case sounds really implausible.Mar 18 15:03
DaemonFC99% of them will keep it for life.Mar 18 15:03
SosumiI'll pay $2 for the thingMar 18 15:03
Sosumiand then sell it as scrapMar 18 15:03
SosumiprofitMar 18 15:03
schestowitz__You might want to make the PDF readable. PRISM Docs isn't working for me on Firefox.Mar 18 15:03
DaemonFCUnemployment Benefits keep people at least somewhat attached to the workforce.Mar 18 15:04
DaemonFCThey have to take job training or submit a certain number of applications every week to keep it going.Mar 18 15:04
DaemonFCWhen you take that away, they get...desperate.Mar 18 15:04
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schestowitz__What's an economist? It's like calling oneself artist, journalist, or model.Mar 18 15:06
schestowitz__And being activists can co-exist with prof.Mar 18 15:06
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445938524156870656Mar 18 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz I'm not an activist. I'm an economist.Mar 18 15:07
MinceRsomeone who studies and practices economy.Mar 18 15:07
schestowitz__which is just a labelMar 18 15:07
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445938681996931072Mar 18 15:08
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445938240844226560  https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445937857858142208Mar 18 15:08
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445939215608840192Mar 18 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz I was going with your pig-wrestling metaphor (re "he") Case summary here: http://t.co/FQVzbZeII0 I'm using firefox; it's fineMar 18 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> docs.google.com | CASE SUMMARY.pdf - Google DriveMar 18 15:09
MinceRwhat is "just a label"?Mar 18 15:09
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445939686922797056Mar 18 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz This has gone-on for 5-6 years;I've had a lot of data destroyed, and moved countries; Google Docs has been (ironically) stable.Mar 18 15:09
schestowitz__MinceR: "economy"Mar 18 15:09
schestowitz__like "dianetics"Mar 18 15:09
schestowitz__man-made constructMar 18 15:09
MinceRexcept one of those things work and the other doesn'tMar 18 15:10
schestowitz__managing and exchanging goods is not economicsMar 18 15:10
schestowitz__that's tradeMar 18 15:10
MinceRs/k/ks/Mar 18 15:10
schestowitz__economics are like a Bible for managing who gets which resourcesMar 18 15:10
schestowitz__We could throw them away and do bartering the old-fashioned wayMar 18 15:10
MinceRactually if you're looking for the analog to the bible, try communism/socialismMar 18 15:11
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445939932281176064Mar 18 15:11
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MinceRsee what good that did.Mar 18 15:11
XFaCE[11:10:54 AM]<schestowitz__> We could throw them away and do bartering the old-fashioned wayMar 18 15:11
XFaCEbitcoinMar 18 15:11
schestowitz__"I am a UN national accounts economist. I am noI am a UN national accounts economist. I am not an activist, never was, though by now, I'm a bit ticked-off and opinionated."t an activist, never was, though by now, I'm a bit ticked-off and opinionated.Mar 18 15:11
schestowitz__"Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone."Mar 18 15:11
MinceRbitcoin turned out to be hugely volatile, thoughMar 18 15:12
XFaCE^Linus TorvaldsMar 18 15:12
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445940047981076480Mar 18 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz What kind of a doctor are you?Mar 18 15:12
XFaCEMinceR: the point is it recoveredMar 18 15:12
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XFaCEand the volatility is whatever reallyMar 18 15:12
MinceRand that quote is from RMS, not LTMar 18 15:12
XFaCEMinceR: there's no sticky prices, so that helpsMar 18 15:12
schestowitz__medical biophysics. Our field is becoming dominated by corporate and army/surveillance budget.Mar 18 15:12
XFaCEMinceR: no I meant, Torvalds would be one of those geeksMar 18 15:12
schestowitz__yeahMar 18 15:13
schestowitz__He's not apoliticalMar 18 15:13
MinceRicMar 18 15:13
schestowitz__but far less political than RMSMar 18 15:13
schestowitz__Linus does condemn swpays and sometimes proprietary swMar 18 15:13
XFaCEschestowitz__: his just for fun mantra is great, until shit happensMar 18 15:13
schestowitz__and in his blog he expresses opinionATED OPINIONSMar 18 15:13
schestowitz__and press CAPS LOCK by accident :-)Mar 18 15:14
MinceRopinions that have opinions of their own? :>Mar 18 15:14
schestowitz__yeahMar 18 15:14
schestowitz__!google opinionated opinionMar 18 15:14
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445941139934556160Mar 18 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz Geeks are wrong (rarely, but it happens) :)Mar 18 15:14
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3779296Mar 18 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Switzerland has strong data protection laws because it has a lot of crime to hide. #kolab should market #privacy & #freedom not #greenwashMar 18 15:15
schestowitz__"www.wuala.com seems anyway better and cheaper."Mar 18 15:15
XFaCEschestowitz__: why aren't you on meshnet yet? :)Mar 18 15:15
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445941225657749504Mar 18 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz God help you. :)Mar 18 15:15
schestowitz__Friends help me, not imaginary friends :-)Mar 18 15:15
XFaCEwell, technically they are both friendsMar 18 15:15
schestowitz__XFaCE: what's meshnet?Mar 18 15:16
schestowitz__Meshed internetsMar 18 15:16
schestowitz__or some of those nebulous things that sit on top of the Internet?Mar 18 15:16
XFaCEschestowitz__: an old network concept, based on the idea that computers in a network are interconnectedMar 18 15:16
XFaCEThe Meshnet in this case is based on the new network protocol called CJDNSMar 18 15:16
schestowitz__Oh, THATMar 18 15:17
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XFaCEencrypted and censorship-resistantMar 18 15:17
XFaCEschestowitz__: yes :)Mar 18 15:17
XFaCEschestowitz__: Techrights should invest in the futureMar 18 15:17
XFaCEand plus, the current Hyperboria is like how the web used to be in terms of new opportunitiesMar 18 15:18
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3779977Mar 18 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Time to tell spies we, the people, not the enemies http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/commentary/article/The-CIA-is-out-of-line-5325142.php http://www.journal-advocate.com/sterling-columnists/ci_25359677/cia-reminds-us-whos-boss #ciaMar 18 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mysanantonio.com | Time to tell spies we, the people, not the enemies - San Antonio Express-News [ http://ur1.ca/gvltb ]Mar 18 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.journal-advocate.com | The CIA reminds us who's boss - Journal Advocate [ http://ur1.ca/gvltc ]Mar 18 15:18
schestowitz__"It's pathetic that she treated an entire nation's (and globe's!) concerns about mass surveillance so carelessly, so recklessly and irresponsibly; and, yet, here she comes drawing a deep, angry, "shocked" hypocritical breath to denounce these things - and doing so solely as a result of her personal experience and self-interest. Hey, Dianne, it sucks to feel violated in this way, doesn't it? Now be a good hypocrite and cry us a river.Mar 18 15:18
XFaCEschestowitz__: plus, when the US fucks over the internet, you just tell your readers where to goMar 18 15:20
XFaCEHyperrights.orgMar 18 15:20
XFaCEMeshrightMar 18 15:21
XFaCETechmeshMar 18 15:21
XFaCE(tradition to add "Hyper" or "Node" or "mesh" to Hyperboria websitesMar 18 15:21
XFaCETechnodeMar 18 15:21
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_GoblinSchestowitz: I cant record on mumble,,,can u?Mar 18 16:16
schestowitz__YesMar 18 16:23
schestowitz__I have that buttonMar 18 16:23
_Goblinschestowitz: ill reboot shortly and load up my Buntu distro which has all my audiostuffMar 18 16:48
Sosumihttp://rense.com/1.imagesH/viewyf.jpgMar 18 16:49
SosumiCold War 2Mar 18 16:49
_Goblinschestowitz__, scrub that, I'll just stick it into my Peppermint distroMar 18 16:49
Sosumibut got to love the portrayal of putin, the fat lady and obomber as squirrelsMar 18 16:50
DaemonFCI try to stay the hell out of Walmart as much as possible.Mar 18 16:56
DaemonFCThe last major purchase I made there was because they ad match the stores in Fort Wayne, which is a 30 mile drive.Mar 18 16:56
DaemonFCMeijer had a Black Friday deal on a 3DS XL and some games, and Walmart matched it.Mar 18 16:57
DaemonFCThe only time I go there is when something is on sale somewhere else.Mar 18 16:58
DaemonFCI bring all the ads for everyone who sells groceries and go down the list at Walmart making them give me the other store's price.Mar 18 16:58
DaemonFCI used to work there, so I have a pretty good idea what their margins are.Mar 18 16:58
DaemonFCThey're not making anything off of me, really.Mar 18 16:58
DaemonFCThe whole reason the other stores have the sales is because they make it up by jacking something else up.Mar 18 16:59
DaemonFCWhen you walk into Walmart with ads from five other grocery and drug stores, you're not really buying anything at a profit to them.Mar 18 17:00
DaemonFCThey're willing to tolerate a few people working the system against them, because the most that a lot of people do is make them comp on some milk or something.Mar 18 17:00
DaemonFCI filled up an entire cart full of the cat food that Jabba eats.Mar 18 17:04
DaemonFCThe farm store put it on sale for $9.99 a bag (normally $14.98 at Walmart), so I bought 10 bags, and used 10 $2 off coupons that I had acquired. :)Mar 18 17:05
DaemonFCJabba didn't quite know what to make out of that.Mar 18 17:06
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lirodonSo reports suggest M$ is going to buy Xamarin http://www.zdnet.com/is-microsoft-about-to-buy-xamarin-7000027434/Mar 18 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Is Microsoft about to buy Xamarin? | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/gvmiy ]Mar 18 17:11
lirodonof course everyone is ignoring the fact that they will effectively acquire the rights to the open source, yet still questionable version of their own frameworkMar 18 17:12
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DaemonFCI don't know why they'd want it other than to shut it down.Mar 18 17:15
Sosumiso, they built the trojan horse under a proxy, xamarinMar 18 17:33
Sosumiand now they're seem to be buying it?Mar 18 17:34
Sosumino surprise at allMar 18 17:34
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_Goblinschestowitz__, Ive decided my mic is borked.....Mar 18 18:15
_Goblincant get it to work...its been a while....Mar 18 18:15
_GoblinI've got a feeling one of the kids has spilt something on it.Mar 18 18:16
DaemonFCA 24 pack of Diet Sam's Choice is now $4.98Mar 18 18:33
DaemonFCOuch.Mar 18 18:33
DaemonFCI remember when it was $2.98, and Pepsi was $4.98Mar 18 18:34
DaemonFCNow Pepsi is $6.98.Mar 18 18:34
DaemonFCInflation is a real bitch...Mar 18 18:34
Sosumithe simple thought of buying pepsi or any other kind of flavored water is beyond my comprehension...Mar 18 18:59
Sosumialso the russia blame game is onMar 18 18:59
Sosumifrom the AJ propaganda networkMar 18 19:00
Sosumithe russians were the ones the hijacked the malasyan airlinerMar 18 19:00
Sosumihttp://www.infowars.com/kremlin-malaysian-flight-370-hijacked-by-us-navy-to-protect-suspicious-cargo/Mar 18 19:00
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Sosumiprobably through telepathyMar 18 19:01
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schestowitz__http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/14/us-malaysia-airlines-radar-exclusive-idUSBREA2D0DG20140314Mar 18 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | Exclusive: Radar data suggests missing Malaysia plane deliberately flown way off course - sources | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gvnnp ]Mar 18 20:29
schestowitz___Goblin: I have a spare set hereMar 18 20:30
schestowitz__Sosumi: this stuff links to the 9/11 "truth" crapMar 18 20:33
schestowitz__Specificially this:Mar 18 20:33
schestowitz__"Bush regime “disappeared” American Airlines Flight 77and its 64 passengers and crew after falsely claiming it hit the Pentagon"Mar 18 20:34
schestowitz__And there's no link to the Russian reportMar 18 20:34
schestowitz__the quotes come from nowhereMar 18 20:34
Sosumiit's AJMar 18 20:34
Sosumiwhat else would you expectMar 18 20:34
schestowitz__and it seems like rotten blogspot writer in Alex Jones' 'news' siteMar 18 20:34
Sosumifrom his and his goon squad?Mar 18 20:35
Sosumi*himMar 18 20:35
schestowitz__I didn't expect much to begin withMar 18 20:35
Sosumi:)Mar 18 20:35
schestowitz__but I deciced to follow some links to checMar 18 20:35
SosumiI just posted that as a jokeMar 18 20:35
schestowitz__the giggles start at the last paragraphMar 18 20:35
schestowitz__stating witrh certainty that a flight and its passengers was "vanished"Mar 18 20:35
schestowitz__Even though there's footage to refute itMar 18 20:36
schestowitz__LOLMar 18 20:36
schestowitz__Look at the commensMar 18 20:36
schestowitz__people's cock presses the CAPS LOCKMar 18 20:37
schestowitz__"Mar 18 20:37
schestowitz__This article is straight from Whatdoesitmean.com.. Sorcha Faal aka David Booth.Mar 18 20:37
schestowitz__http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/...Mar 18 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.whatdoesitmean.com | WhatDoesItMean.ComMar 18 20:37
schestowitz__But even a broken clock is right twice a day!Mar 18 20:37
schestowitz__"Mar 18 20:37
schestowitz__"Yup.. anything by Sorch Faal is misinformation Surprised Infowars posted this. Go back and look at these posts. They are all incorrect junk.'Mar 18 20:37
schestowitz__I'm not  "Yup.. anything by Sorch Faal is misinformation Surprised Infowars posted this. Go back and look at these posts. They are all incorrect junk."Mar 18 20:37
schestowitz__I'm not  "Surprised Infowars posted this. 'Mar 18 20:38
schestowitz__"when the government lies to you so much, you can no longer believe what they say, and it makes it easier to believe stories like this. 'Mar 18 20:38
schestowitz__"This plane was hijacked by the Jinn aka Demons, ETs or whatever you might call them. The Jinn have been living here on earth even before Adam and Eve. They are technologically more advanced than we are. Some of them are evil and are called Demons. Some of them are fliers aka UFOs. Some of them are scientists. To sum it up, they are a society like us. US government and most West European govs are in alliance with a group of them and Mar 18 20:39
schestowitz__together they manage the world. Just look up Demon magicians, Jinns and topic like that, and you'll find the truth if you are NOT a ZOMBIE or a paid agent. Good luck."Mar 18 20:39
schestowitz__LMAOMar 18 20:39
schestowitz__Oh, I get it, Alex Hones is satire entertainment netowkrMar 18 20:39
schestowitz__like http://www.duffelblog.com/#!zZth5Mar 18 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.duffelblog.com/#!zZth5 )Mar 18 20:39
schestowitz__"Mar 18 20:40
schestowitz__Screen Shot 2014-03-07 at 11.26.58 AMMar 18 20:40
schestowitz__Frederick Taub | March 7, 2014Mar 18 20:40
schestowitz__Kremlin Seized By Self-Loathing, Fear After Kafkaesque Putin Press ConferenceMar 18 20:40
schestowitz__Read more: http://www.duffelblog.com/#ixzz2wLhYBIMPMar 18 20:40
schestowitz__"Mar 18 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.duffelblog.com/#ixzz2wLhYBIMP )Mar 18 20:41
schestowitz__http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/03/navy-maintenance/Mar 18 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.duffelblog.com | Navy Orders More Maintenance To Ensure Machinery Stays Properly Broken [ http://ur1.ca/gvnq9 ]Mar 18 20:41
Sosumimeanwhile, aside the infowhores storyMar 18 20:41
schestowitz__http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/03/navy-goes-six-months-without-changing-uniforms/Mar 18 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.duffelblog.com | Navy Goes Six Months Without Changing Uniforms [ http://ur1.ca/gvnqd ]Mar 18 20:41
Sosumiwolfram has an invent at my university in julyMar 18 20:42
schestowitz__http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/03/female-army-ranger/Mar 18 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.duffelblog.com | First Female Army Ranger Brags About Her Veiny, Seven-Inch Clitoris [ http://ur1.ca/gvnql ]Mar 18 20:42
Sosumiwith a fee of around 700€Mar 18 20:42
Sosumion the other handMar 18 20:42
Sosumimathworks is conducting a similar event on the 26th of this month for freeMar 18 20:43
Sosumiand online, live streamMar 18 20:43
MinceRhttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-eHRdkEbX2j8/Uyg3oAlPAXI/AAAAAAAB7BA/AiLJBC6CSho/w640-h499-no/14+-+1Mar 18 20:43
schestowitz__mehMar 18 20:46
schestowitz__!google wolfram techrightsMar 18 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_CritiqueMar 18 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2011 February 14 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/02/14/Mar 18 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - 2008 November 26 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2008/11/26/Mar 18 20:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - 2009 May 21 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2009/05/21/Mar 18 20:46
SosumiI'm not a fan of stephen wolframMar 18 20:47
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Wolfram_ResearchMar 18 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Wolfram Research - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gvnrl ]Mar 18 20:47
Sosuminor of his book "a new kind of scienceMar 18 20:47
Sosumiof which I still have to readMar 18 20:47
SosumiproperlyMar 18 20:47
Sosumibut I do like some of his stuff about celular automataMar 18 20:47
Sosumiwhat doesn't seem fair is the pricing of the eventMar 18 20:48
Sosumiwhen the guys presiding over it are from the university itselfMar 18 20:49
Sosumiso from what I was able to gather, that money is mostly going to be funneled for the main event organizerMar 18 20:50
Sosumiwhich a consulting firm by the name of timberlakeMar 18 20:50
MinceRjustin?Mar 18 20:51
Sosumias for wolfram, they already get money for the licenses deployed on campus, but individual and networkMar 18 20:51
Sosumiand they seem to be açlways happy to show up when invited to promote their stuffMar 18 20:52
Sosumiwithout charging for itMar 18 20:52
Sosumi!google timberlake consultoresMar 18 20:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Timberlake Consultores | http://www.timberlake.pt/Mar 18 20:52
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - International Offices & Agencies | Timberlake Consultants | Software ... | http://www.timberlake.co.uk/%3Fid%3D250Mar 18 20:52
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Stata | 2012 Portuguese Stata Users Group meeting | http://www.stata.com/meeting/portugal12/program/Mar 18 20:52
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Authorized Stata distributors and resellers | http://www.stata.com/worldwide/%3Fcountry%3DBrazilMar 18 20:52
Sosumithose idiotsMar 18 20:52
Sosumithose and another companyMar 18 20:54
Sosumicalled critical software usually follow each otherMar 18 20:54
Sosumiand hey, it was critical software that got a millionaire contract to secure the portuguese government systemsMar 18 20:55
Sosumiministry of justice speciallyMar 18 20:56
Sosumiby using more up to date versions of windowsMar 18 20:56
MinceRlolMar 18 20:56
MinceRyeah, that's so secureMar 18 20:56
Sosumiinstead of developing an in house solution using free softwareMar 18 20:57
Sosumiwhich is what I always advocate, for critical systemsMar 18 20:58
Sosumispecially governmentMar 18 20:58
Sosumiand heyMar 18 20:59
SosumiI think they were also the responsible for replacing the solaris terminals at the parliament for windows 7 based onesMar 18 21:00
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Sosumihttp://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/57051000/jpg/_57051924_013422223-1.jpgMar 18 21:01
Sosumithose used to be sun displaysMar 18 21:01
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Sosumiand they didn't show windows on itMar 18 21:01
Sosumibut solarisMar 18 21:02
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sebsebsebhiMar 18 21:04
Sosumiseb³Mar 18 21:22
sebsebsebSosumi: hiMar 18 21:22
sebsebsebMinceR pingMar 18 21:23
MinceRsebsebseb: pongMar 18 21:23
sebsebsebSosumi: MinceR openSUSE got really popular at that event last Saturday!Mar 18 21:24
Sosumihow?Mar 18 21:24
sebsebsebSosumi: most of the non technical vsitors wanted itMar 18 21:25
sebsebsebI don't know whyMar 18 21:25
sebsebsebI  guess it looked like WIndows 7 soMar 18 21:25
sebsebsebhardly anyone went with Ubuntu or Mint as a resultMar 18 21:25
Sosumikde was the WOW factor thenMar 18 21:26
sebsebsebSosumi: heh hehMar 18 21:26
MinceRor they instinctively go with the most msft choice :><Mar 18 21:26
MinceRs/.$//Mar 18 21:27
sebsebsebMinceR: yepMar 18 21:27
sebsebsebok realy the event was a marketting failureMar 18 21:27
sebsebsebso hardly anyone turned up from the ntended target audain ceMar 18 21:27
sebsebsebit was mainly just LInux Format readersMar 18 21:27
sebsebsebsnce it had been advertie thereMar 18 21:27
sebsebsebhowever I did get a woman who was along with some guy who using Fedora it seemsMar 18 21:27
sebsebsebwho wellMar 18 21:27
sebsebsebhad seen the video with the introduction and three reviewsMar 18 21:28
sebsebseband she justh appended to have walked in, when he was talking about setitng up a proxy and such so uhmmMar 18 21:28
sebsebsebjust like that she gets put off openSUSEMar 18 21:28
Sosumiwell they instictly go with the M4 related choice because that is unfortunately all they knowMar 18 21:29
sebsebsebthen I talk to her after woulds and apparnatly she had stayed there to see the rest of the video, but when it came to showing her things,  she would go no where near hte openSUSE computerMar 18 21:29
Sosumiso they end choosing the option the less steep learning curveMar 18 21:29
sebsebsebSosumi: no that was a joke about most people going openSUSEMar 18 21:29
sebsebsebSosumi: the thing just now about a woman who got all put off openSUSE, because of  a review geting to technical andher walking in the technical bit Mar 18 21:29
Sosumiwell it is a joke going to opensusieMar 18 21:29
sebsebsebthat's true thoughMar 18 21:30
sebsebsebthat a woman got put off since the video got to techncalMar 18 21:30
Sosumibut if there had been an option with fedora or kubuntu or arch with kdeMar 18 21:30
sebsebsebSosumi: well sure, but anyway I ended up showing a few Mageia anwyay :)Mar 18 21:30
sebsebsebMageia with GNOME and possibly KDE toMar 18 21:30
Sosumithey wouldn't be able to say which one was whichMar 18 21:30
sebsebsebcontrol centre and welcome screen basiallyMar 18 21:30
Sosumi:)Mar 18 21:31
sebsebsebevent was a bit of a faiure though really since hte markettingMar 18 21:31
sebsebsebthe lack ofMar 18 21:31
sebsebseband it not done in the correct places quite, but we stil had about 30 people turning up as visitorsMar 18 21:31
sebsebsebSosumi: the women tended to have come along with some guy thughMar 18 21:31
sebsebsebSosumi: MinceR anyway I was happy when this woman started saying  about the video and wat happended, and how she refused to even try openSUSE out at  the event as a reusltMar 18 21:32
Sosumishe did well thenMar 18 21:35
Sosumibu rejecting that wench called openSUSIEMar 18 21:35
sebsebsebSosumi: heh hehMar 18 21:36
sebsebsebwell video had shown how to set up a proxy and such and saying it's a power users distro etcMar 18 21:36
sebsebsebthe reviewMar 18 21:36
sebsebsebso yeah gave the impreison that it was to technical for herMar 18 21:36
Sosumiwas she young?Mar 18 21:37
Sosumiand with the looksMar 18 21:37
sebsebsebSosumi: nah probably 40's or something like thatMar 18 21:37
sebsebsebwith the looks?Mar 18 21:37
Sosumiif she was good lookingMar 18 21:38
sebsebseboh rightMar 18 21:38
sebsebsebnah just some woman reallyMar 18 21:38
Sosumino milf material :(Mar 18 21:38
sebsebsebgot a nice Polish woman turning up towarsd end thoughMar 18 21:39
sebsebseb,but I didn't erally chat to her much soMar 18 21:39
Sosumischestowitz__ AJ also had another link, now down, about the it being the US Navy who hijacked the planeMar 18 21:42
Sosumihttp://www.infowars.com/kremlin-malaysian-flight-370-hijacked-by-us-navy-to-protect-suspicious-cargo/Mar 18 21:42
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Sosumilol @ infowhoresMar 18 21:43
MinceRPage Not FoundMar 18 21:48
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/ym9NoF2.jpgMar 18 21:49
Sosumiyep, pulled outMar 18 21:49
MinceRthat's what she said.Mar 18 21:50
Sosumiand then replaced by the other story that I had linked earlierMar 18 21:50
Sosumibut don't worry, next time they'll just say that Sosumi managed to hijack the plane using nothing more than a probabilities and statistics textbookMar 18 21:56
MinceR:>Mar 18 21:57
Sosumiconjecturing that it was manufactured with unomptatium and capable of generating its own gravitational fieldMar 18 21:58
MinceRthe latter is true, thoughMar 18 21:58
Sosumithus teleporting the plane into an alternate dimension where ppl like AJ talk of their rears and no one can understand what they sayMar 18 21:59
Sosumiunless they know morseMar 18 21:59
Sosumiand GNMar 18 22:01
MinceRgnMar 18 22:02
Sosumihttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-18/did-missing-flight-mh370-land-maldives-or-diego-garcia-full-updated-summaryMar 18 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Did Missing Flight MH370 Land In The Maldives Or Diego Garcia: The Full Updated Summary | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gvo6e ]Mar 18 22:03
Sosumifrom zerohedge just nowMar 18 22:03
SosumiI'll read tomorrow...Mar 18 22:04
SosumignMar 18 22:04
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/446030953388208128Mar 18 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz I guess Miguel finally gets his dream job....Mar 18 22:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Technologies Provide Cloud-ReadyMar 18 22:15
TweetTuxMachines                 Big Data Control http://t.co/I9fKntGePtMar 18 22:15
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schestowitz__"Wow..."Mar 19 07:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: These "wearables" look like straps you'd put on prisoners for tracking, not so-called 'tech' people pay for http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57620471-94/how-to-make-a-wearable-gadget-the-fitbit-way/?part=rss&subj=latest-news2&tag=titleMar 19 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.cnet.com | How to make a wearable gadget the Fitbit way | Mobile - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gvr79 ]Mar 19 07:54
schestowitz__"They're also being recalled due to prisoner--erm, customer complaints of skin irritation... something to do with excess device temperature and a reaction to the nickel alloy, I recall... I'll see if I can round up a link. ...And, yes, you're correct about its design, the first thing I thought was that the wearer appeared to be under "house arrest"."Mar 19 07:54
schestowitz__on TechCrunch: http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/12/fitbit-force-1-million-units-sold/ and Fitbit: https://help.fitbit.com/customer/portal/articles/1425569Mar 19 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Fitbit Force Recall Affects Around 1M Units In The U.S And 28K In Canada, Per CPSC | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gvr7g ]Mar 19 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-help.fitbit.com | Fitbit Help | Fitbit Force Skin Irritation FAQs [ http://ur1.ca/gvr7h ]Mar 19 07:55
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3782569Mar 19 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: haha :D ![](http://explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Dave/haveagiganticgroaneronme.png) #battery #charged :DMar 19 07:55
schestowitz__""LMAO! I love such jokes!"Mar 19 07:56
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3782031Mar 19 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Watching Revolution OS again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR6P0GueyVA lots of credit to #gnuMar 19 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Revolution OS Linux Documentary 2001 FULL Movie - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gvr7u ]Mar 19 07:56
schestowitz__"I think we need newer documentary. 2001? come on ... so many things have changer for both better and worse [IMHO fortunately more into the positive, than negative side], when it comes to GNU/Linux! :)"Mar 19 07:56
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3784240Mar 19 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #GoldmanSachs #Money #BanksMar 19 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by cannabenoid@cryptospora.net: https://cryptospora.net/uploads/images/thumb_medium_103502bca294651b1583.jpgMar 19 07:57
schestowitz__"LOL :D"Mar 19 07:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Bugs but Proprietary the Threat SaysMar 19 09:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Shuttleworth http://t.co/ExMYiSJlEiMar 19 09:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Your U.S. government uses open source software,Mar 19 09:23
TweetTuxMachines                 and loves it http://t.co/4D1TGzoRrnMar 19 09:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Bugs but Proprietary the Threat Says Shuttleworth | Tux MachinesMar 19 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Your U.S. government uses open source software, and loves it | Tux MachinesMar 19 09:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MEP Tarand: "EU should switch to ODF standard"Mar 19 10:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Java 8 Officially Released, Modularity Still aMar 19 10:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Concern http://t.co/GCp3DCa9TBMar 19 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MEP Tarand: "EU should switch to ODF standard" | Tux MachinesMar 19 10:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Java 8 Officially Released, Modularity Still a Concern | Tux MachinesMar 19 10:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Enlightenment Foundation Libraries ApplicationMar 19 10:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Round Up http://t.co/xwm2EOYKinMar 19 10:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Enlightenment Foundation Libraries Application Round Up | Tux MachinesMar 19 10:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Gnome gets LTS statusMar 19 10:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Gnome gets LTS status | Tux MachinesMar 19 10:08
Sosumihttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1404_mba2013gl&num=1Mar 19 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Ubuntu 14.04 Now Runs Well On The 2013 MacBook Air, Beats OS X 10.9 In Graphics [ http://ur1.ca/gvsm6 ]Mar 19 11:41
Sosumiand probably doesn't have memory issues eitherMar 19 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tux Takeover: http://t.co/2V3AQZNEss AddingMar 19 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Games http://t.co/MwYKcvftmIMar 19 12:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ownCloud @ Chemnitzer Linuxtage 2014Mar 19 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Jd6bQyUQ5KMar 19 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tux Takeover: GOG.com Adding Linux Games | Tux MachinesMar 19 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ownCloud @ Chemnitzer Linuxtage 2014 | Tux MachinesMar 19 12:22
MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/200000/10000/5000/700/215758/215758.strip.zoom.gifMar 19 12:45
MinceRgeekingsMar 19 12:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SDN, NFV, and open source: the operator’s viewMar 19 15:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SDN, NFV, and open source: the operator’s view | Tux MachinesMar 19 15:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Works On Input Redirection, Wayland CursorMar 19 15:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Themes http://t.co/6DTXpmcSKOMar 19 15:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Works On Input Redirection, Wayland Cursor Themes | Tux MachinesMar 19 15:24
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3780861Mar 19 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Asus May Be Developing an Android Game Box http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-controller-game-box-console-gaming,26292.htmlMar 19 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tomshardware.com | Asus May Be Developing an Android Game Box [ http://ur1.ca/gvuee ]Mar 19 15:45
schestowitz__"why android? why not a casual linux distro?"Mar 19 15:45
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3784613Mar 19 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open Source or Proprietary? That is the (Website) Question https://nonprofitquarterly.org/management/23861-open-source-or-proprietary-that-is-the-website-question.html #freesw CMS can do anything proprietary doesMar 19 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> nonprofitquarterly.org | Open Source or Proprietary? That is the (Website) Question - NPQ - Nonprofit Quarterly [ http://ur1.ca/gvuew ]Mar 19 15:47
schestowitz__"Open Source."Mar 19 15:47
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3784613Mar 19 15:48
schestowitz__"Mar 19 15:49
schestowitz__It's hard to tell because he does not let people audit his foundations books in a proper way, much less his own holdings. Search results are flooded with bullshit about his work with cessation programs. As of 2008, it looks like he played a Buffet shell game.Mar 19 15:49
schestowitz__    When the Los Angeles Times broke the story (actually, several stories) on the Gates Foundation’s investments in corporations that seemed opposed to the foundation’s philanthropic activities, many were shocked by the foundation’s rather cavalier dismissal of its critics.Mar 19 15:49
schestowitz__    ... the Foundation did note, however, that it doesn’t own tobacco stocks, though it didn’t protest owning shares of Berkshire Hathaway, which holds substantial tobacco investmentsMar 19 15:49
schestowitz__That was Gates' way of lying about things. Before pretending to make this minor and dishonest exception for ethics, the foundation defended unethical investments, contradicted itself and promised to get rid of tobacco.Mar 19 15:49
schestowitz__They still have not. According to this rather obnoxiously restricted site, Gates is just now starting a divestment from Berkshire for tax purposes. The reasoning for the divestment seems to be mentioned in the Wikipedia article about Buffett's own tax shelter.Mar 19 15:49
schestowitz__"Mar 19 15:49
schestowitz__http://www.latimes.com/business/la-na-gates14jan14,0,1160032.story#axzz2wPpGhupy  http://www.foundationendowment.com/Article/3302219/Fund-Sponsors/Bill-and-Melinda-Gates-Trust-Gears-Up-For-Berkshire-Divestment.html   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffett_FoundationMar 19 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latimes.com | Gates Foundation to keep its investment approach - latimes.com [ http://ur1.ca/gvuf9 ]Mar 19 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foundationendowment.com | Bill & Melinda Gates Trust Gears Up For Berkshire Divestment | Foundation & Endowment Intelligence [ http://ur1.ca/gvufc ]Mar 19 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Buffett Foundation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gvufd ]Mar 19 15:49
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3786091Mar 19 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In #russia journalists who challenge authoritarian abuse fall outside windows. In the #us they crash into walls (inside computerised cars).Mar 19 15:50
schestowitz__"In Mexico they are killed by the "narco" (which is under State control) and in Iraq they die by "stray bullets"./;Mar 19 15:50
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3784357Mar 19 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #israel not at war with #syria but sends its US jets today to strike sites in Syria. Now, imagine it was Syria doing the same thing first...Mar 19 15:50
schestowitz__"next is: It is pretty obvious if you ask cui bono that the attack was not carried out by syrian army but by djihadists fighting Assad. It is in their Interest to escalate on the Syrian border as they can be pretty sure this will end in a threat against Syrian forces."Mar 19 15:50
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3785283Mar 19 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Cannot sign into my Google account from Tor, even when using correct username and password. No location privacy.Mar 19 15:51
schestowitz__"I sporadically run into that problem too. Sometimes Google does allow access, sometimes it doesn't. A few days back I was blocked because of automatic package sending or something, I don't quite remember. And I was blocked from my university's blackboard, first for using Tor, then for declining cookies. The world we live in..."Mar 19 15:51
schestowitz__"isn't that like trying to wear a ski mask at the registration office"Mar 19 15:51
schestowitz__"do they need your face at the registration office ? ^^"Mar 19 15:51
schestowitz__"hi roy, this is a very common problem, now if you login using your non tor connection, when u logon gmail will say ur account was accessed from a different ip address and at the bottom of the page where there is an option to see your login history, this will be recorded. if you try this a few more times, it will flag ur email as a spam account and ask you to confirm that its not spam by asking you for mobile number based Mar 19 15:52
schestowitz__verification."Mar 19 15:52
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3784628Mar 19 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: your highness... ![your highness](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5xy1idbf11r5uswno1_500.gif) #high #hyperspace #yourhighness #crawl #animatedgif > ----Mar 19 15:52
schestowitz__"cOOL !"Mar 19 15:52
schestowitz__Yanyan Playing Pingpong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1c38MY0M5E&feature=youtu.be http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/03/19/pingpong/ made with #openshotMar 19 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | pingpingYanyan Playing Pingpong - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gvury ]Mar 19 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Yanyan Playing Pingpong [ http://ur1.ca/gvurz ]Mar 19 16:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ministry of Communication adopts open sourceMar 19 17:11
TweetTuxMachines                 software strategy http://t.co/5pqtNk5eGUMar 19 17:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ministry of Communication adopts open source software strategy | Tux MachinesMar 19 17:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Recapping The Top Changes Of The Linux 3.14Mar 19 17:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel http://t.co/fH8DfWQG9YMar 19 17:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Recapping The Top Changes Of The Linux 3.14 Kernel | Tux MachinesMar 19 17:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Qualcomm's Liat Ben-Zur: Open SourceMar 19 18:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Collaboration Works http://t.co/thIw9TLr97Mar 19 18:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Motorola smartwatch does Android Wear in theMar 19 18:13
TweetTuxMachines                 round http://t.co/rkJgZpEsnOMar 19 18:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qualcomm's Liat Ben-Zur: Open Source Collaboration Works | Tux MachinesMar 19 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Motorola smartwatch does Android Wear in the round | Tux MachinesMar 19 18:14
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Sosumihttp://www.cudahynow.com/blogs/communityblogs/250924661.htmlMar 19 20:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cudahynow.com | Bizarre Skeletons Unearthed In Russian Mound, Satyr and Giant Horse - CudahyNOW [ http://ur1.ca/gvwat ]Mar 19 20:00
Sosumithe skeletons on putin's closet have been foundMar 19 20:00
Sosumior maybe they were just placed there by ObozoMar 19 20:00
Sosumi:)Mar 19 20:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GCC 4.9 Is Working Towards A Possible ReleaseMar 19 20:09
TweetTuxMachines                 In April http://t.co/iQcpsC9YKEMar 19 20:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 4.9 Is Working Towards A Possible Release In April | Tux MachinesMar 19 20:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What Happened to the Vision in Open Source?Mar 19 20:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Happened to the Vision in Open Source? | Tux MachinesMar 19 20:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Interview with Roman Telezhinsky of ValentinaMar 19 20:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Interview with Roman Telezhinsky of Valentina | Tux MachinesMar 19 20:09
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3788006  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3787651  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3787542Mar 19 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Reforming #Copyrights and Challenging Copyrights Stigma With Free/Libre Software http://techrights.org/2014/03/19/reforming-copyrights/ #sharing #collaborationMar 19 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Reforming Copyrights and Challenging Copyrights Stigma With Free/Libre Software | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gvwz2 ]Mar 19 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Free/Open Source Software News: Beehives, Neuroscience, Video Editing, Events, Services, Databases, CMSs, and Funding http://techrights.org/2014/03/19/beehives-neuroscience/Mar 19 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Free/Open Source Software News: Beehives, Neuroscience, Video Editing, Events, Services, Databases, CMSs, and Funding | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gvwz3 ]Mar 19 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GNU News: What’s New in GNU http://techrights.org/2014/03/19/gnu-news/ #gnu #fsfMar 19 21:29
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3788059Mar 19 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/64327Mar 19 21:41
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/446338909866586112 https://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/446339132223397888 Mar 19 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Open Source is not Free Software.Mar 19 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz And sadly, Open Source won, Free Software lost.Mar 19 22:21
schestowitzThey're not mutually exclusive, there's overlapMar 19 22:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446411267709100032 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446410589980872704 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446410368857165824  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446409967273521152Mar 19 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @agente_smithe They're not mutually exclusive, there's overlapMar 19 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: I recently wrote puppet scripts/configs to mass-remove #amazon #spyware from ~200 customer desktops. #privacy #ubuntu #gnu #linuxMar 19 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Mark Shuttleworth worried that #acpi used by #nsa for #surveillance but puts #amazon #spyware in #ubuntu by default. #canonical #privacyMar 19 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Snowden slams Amazon for leaking customer data to the NSA http://t.co/YzckWL4QWg #cia #bezos #amazon #wikileaks #canonical #ubuntuMar 19 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> venturebeat.com | Snowden slams Amazon for leaking customer data to the NSA | VentureBeat | Security | by Harrison WeberMar 19 22:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446409589823922176  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446409015623708672  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446408258623119360Mar 19 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: PCLOB to Examine Legal Underpinnings of NSA Surveillance https://t.co/tTSuMOjFud from #acluMar 19 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.aclu.org | PCLOB to Examine Legal Underpinnings of NSA Surveillance | American Civil Liberties UnionMar 19 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Sen. Ron Wyden scorches senior #CIA and #NSA officials and their 'pattern of deception' http://t.co/wRPLQaqACi no accountability for liesMar 19 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.oregonlive.com | Sen. Ron Wyden scorches senior CIA and NSA officials and their 'pattern of deception' | OregonLive.comMar 19 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: US tech companies lobbying to reform #NSA of "taking on" the NSA is just a PR charade;gives illusion of separability (state+corporations).Mar 19 22:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446407794317860864  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446407204871344128  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446406700506288128 Mar 19 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NSA: Tech Companies Knew We Collected User Data http://t.co/jgjj2t25PB companies like to pretend to be "victims", not accomplicesMar 19 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mashable.com | NSA: Tech Companies Knew We Collected User DataMar 19 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The discussion about rewind&play of any call in "foreign nation" is distracting at best; been known for years #fbi does it domestically.Mar 19 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google CEO: "digital and wireless devices has boosted the amount of information that can be gathered" http://t.co/DmLQPRVxSF Like #mac adds?Mar 19 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bloomberg.com | Google CEO Calls NSA Spying ‘Disappointing’ - BloombergMar 19 22:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446406074573549568  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446405709706838016  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446405541397819392  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446405352490545152  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446404668718325760Mar 19 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Spirit of the Fourth Amendment—and the NSA's Disregard for It http://t.co/vhmK2cistW in #uk #gchq has no amendment to fight withMar 19 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theatlantic.com | The Spirit of the Fourth Amendment—and the NSA's Disregard for It - Conor Friedersdorf - The AtlanticMar 19 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why Does the #NSA Want to Keep Its Water Usage a Secret? http://t.co/2ZmfzsIBLD Achilles HeelMar 19 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | Why Does the NSA Want to Keep Its Water Usage a Secret? | Wired Enterprise | Wired.comMar 19 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Corporations as accomplices http://t.co/oRh0sSQgVB #nsa #surveillanceMar 19 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | US tech giants knew of NSA data collection, agency's top lawyer insists | World news | theguardian.comMar 19 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Citizenship alone sufficient to call one a "target", do maximal #surveillance http://t.co/rzhsfPL9B0Mar 19 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://en.mercopress.com/2014/03/19/end-of-privacy-us-nsa-can-record-all-phone-calls-and-play-them-backhttp://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/18/uk-usa-security-surveillance-idUKBREA2H1XD20140318 )Mar 19 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Guardian wins Scripps Howard Foundation award for #NSA reporting http://t.co/5TGKWu7Fbo while #uk gov. treats them like criminalsMar 19 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Guardian wins Scripps Howard Foundation award for NSA reporting | Media | theguardian.comMar 19 22:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446404036485726210  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446403574831267840  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446402313167847424Mar 19 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Pentagon watchdog 'not aware' of NSA bulk phone data collection http://t.co/WsniJdBoYx so much for "oversight"Mar 19 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Pentagon watchdog 'not aware' of NSA bulk phone data collection | World news | theguardian.comMar 19 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Free software in SDN becoming "standard" http://t.co/xgH4nL6FYfMar 19 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | OpenDaylight Project finds industry wants open-source SDN | ZDNetMar 19 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Cyber criminals capture 25,000 Unix servers http://t.co/yBEIwaPZVi #server #security #windows #malwareMar 19 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.techeye.net | Cyber criminals capture 25,000 Unix servers - Operation Windigo creates super botnet | TechEyeMar 19 22:30
schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthompson/2014/03/17/ukraine-crisis-polands-air-defenses-become-a-pressing-concern-for-washington/Mar 19 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Ukraine Crisis: Poland's Air Defenses Become A Pressing Concern For Washington - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/gvxcl ]Mar 19 22:40
schestowitzMehMar 19 22:40
schestowitzAll about self-interest for a nation half a globe awayMar 19 22:41
schestowitzhttp://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/17/the-legacy-of-tony-benn/Mar 19 22:41
schestowitz"It was a title inspired by P. G. Wodehouse and coined by the novelist Malcolm Bradbury.  This was the late Tony Benn as satire, Benn as the hugely visible, orated political presence that guaranteed his status as myth that no governor can ever have.  The business of governing, after all, is bound to get your reputation dirtied at some point."Mar 19 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.counterpunch.org | The Legacy of Tony Benn » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names [ http://ur1.ca/gvxcu ]Mar 19 22:41
schestowitzhttp://www.abpnews.com/ministry/people/item/28471-campolo-says-us-missionaries-too-close-to-ciaMar 19 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abpnews.com | Campolo says U.S. missionaries too close to CIA, later ‘regrets’ comment [ http://ur1.ca/gvxp7 ]Mar 19 23:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446426395552800768  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446425890030108672 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446425457710608384  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446425013126979584Mar 19 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CIA Tells FOIA Requester It Can Only Make PDFs By Printing Out Electronic Documents And Re-Scanning Them http://t.co/1m6jIseOIn #ciaMar 19 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | CIA Tells FOIA Requester It Can Only Make PDFs By Printing Out Electronic Documents And Re-Scanning Them | TechdirtMar 19 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Making #cia sexy is a #hollywood mission http://t.co/YRD3s0RJPK c/f http://t.co/olVL9ORfl7Mar 19 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tvwise.co.uk | Michael A. Goorjian To Guest Star On USA Network's CIA Drama 'Covert Affairs' - TVWiseMar 19 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dissenter.firedoglake.com | Former Top CIA Lawyer John Rizzo Hails Agency’s ‘Special Relationship’ with Hollywood Figures | The DissenterMar 19 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: At CIA, illegal killing is fine, being a bad boss isn't http://t.co/M6ZvSGBGq5 their own "laws"Mar 19 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.baltimoresun.com | CIA officer punished for the wrong reasons - baltimoresun.comMar 19 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Holder is holding back, seemingly not willing to challenge #cia http://t.co/AMmq6eqf9NMar 19 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.latimes.com | Holder: No decision on whether to investigate CIA or Senate aides - latimes.comMar 19 23:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446429629243744257Mar 19 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Covert Apparatus Still Under Fire: Surveillance, Interventions, Drones and Beyond http://t.co/5SG37dE893Mar 19 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Covert Apparatus Still Under Fire: Surveillance, Interventions, Drones and Beyond | TechrightsMar 19 23:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446424624440827905  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446424330109747200  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446423850012913665  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446422495969964032  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446422094105305088Mar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #FBI evaluating complaints about hacking by #CIA , Senate panel - sources http://t.co/wBztKDUyBQ but they're siblings. #conflictMar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> in.reuters.com | FBI evaluating complaints about hacking by CIA, Senate panel - sources | ReutersMar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Report: The CIA Used Torture Even Before Bush Authorized It http://t.co/n5R3GXC2ar #cia obeys no lawsMar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thewire.com | Report: The CIA Used Torture Even Before Bush Authorized It - The WireMar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "leaders in nations cleverly slandered by a monopolized media and brutally attacked by... murderous interventions" http://t.co/eSi26KwaMFMar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.countercurrents.org | If Mankind Is To Survive It Must Prosecute US NATO Genocide By Jay JansonMar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 'At the tactical level, US policy has devolved to “regime change.”' http://t.co/KN8fFIK9VD undermining democracy in the name of "democracy"Mar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.americanthinker.com | Articles: Russophobia and IslamophiliaMar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #Iraq War: Forgotten in Plain Sight http://t.co/zAJBAUj8PL "US media coverage of the Iraq War shifted in other ways"Mar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.truth-out.org | The Iraq War: Forgotten in Plain SightMar 19 23:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446423529622614016Mar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Double Standards and Hypocrisy: Where are the Sanctions against the West? http://t.co/9xe3mXLSjx "genuinely illegal wars and interventions"Mar 19 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalresearch.ca | Double Standards and Hypocrisy: Where are the Sanctions against the West? | Global ResearchMar 19 23:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446421598934151168  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446421333329854465  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446420958308761600  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446419935284453376Mar 19 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "America's adversaries are testing the limits of America's post-Iraq, post-Afghanistan moment." http://t.co/BtcLoSMXujMar 19 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.fair.org | Obama's Imaginary Foreign Policy 'Caution'Mar 19 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Adhere to U.N. report and lift veil on #drone policy http://t.co/Sfp6VB0hXY CIA's secret war no longer so secretMar 19 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.kansascity.com | Adhere to U.N. report and lift veil on drone policy - KansasCity.comMar 19 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "not only to memorialize those killed by American drones, but also to bring attention to America’s drone policies." http://t.co/2qz9O8bVaCMar 19 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> collegian.csufresno.edu | The Collegian » Drone sculpture construction beginsMar 19 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama signed off another drone assassination Afghanistan. It killed five, but were they all "targets" (which is not the same as "guilty")?Mar 19 23:40
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446420574714486784Mar 19 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Afghanistan is back on the map... of #assassination by foreign government http://t.co/XXXp8Q700wMar 19 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.digitaljournal.com | Locations of drone attacks changing to Afghanistan and YemenMar 19 23:40
schestowitzMinceR: nnMar 19 23:40
MinceRthxMar 19 23:40
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to MinceRMar 19 23:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446419573198577665  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446419268163612672  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446418778306670592  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446418532679827456  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446418187119521792Mar 19 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Four U.S. citizens killed in #Obama #drone strikes, but 3 were not intended targets http://t.co/oWfnlxgDA2 "accurate" they say...Mar 19 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.politifact.com | Four U.S. citizens killed in Obama drone strikes, but 3 were not intended targets | PolitiFact TexasMar 19 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Exclusive: U.S. Boycotts U.N. Drone Talks http://t.co/PH6yzloMCE no oversight allowedMar 19 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thecable.foreignpolicy.com | Exclusive: U.S. Boycotts U.N. Drone TalksMar 19 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Removing pilots, making death more autonomous http://t.co/4JnKhqGzaW http://t.co/oFazKkAcS9Mar 19 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com | The Air Force Wants to Replace the U-2 with a Drone Program It Tried to Kill | MotherboardMar 19 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com | The Air Force Isn't Ready to Replace the A-10 | MotherboardMar 19 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Our nation on the hot seat http://t.co/xbC5P3GPjS #un speaks out against human rights abuses.Mar 19 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.crossville-chronicle.com | LION AND THE LAMB: Our nation on the hot seat » Opinion » Crossville Chronicle, Crossville, TNMar 19 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why US Journalists Have Blood on Their Hands http://t.co/ewsYPcA1yv "outlets like CNN, Fox News, New York Times, and Washington Post "Mar 19 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.counterpunch.org | Why US Journalists Have Blood on Their Hands » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the NamesMar 19 23:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446417915227959296  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446417417003343873  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446417105857294336Mar 19 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In #us #army "three-quarters also say they joined for education benefits" http://t.co/kuoOecBiLjMar 19 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.counterpunch.org | Army Makes Case Against Enlisting » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the NamesMar 19 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CODEPINK Snow Day at the Department of Homeland Security http://t.co/BfOXxA8Qh7 #dronesMar 19 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dissidentvoice.org | CODEPINK Snow Day at the Department of Homeland Security | Dissident VoiceMar 19 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Column: The new center of Obama's drone war shifts locations http://t.co/r59Rl5iJ8u #dronesMar 19 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.troyrecord.com/opinion/20140319/column-the-new-center-of-obamas-drone-war-shifts-locations )Mar 19 23:42
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/sabinenamba/status/446421773173923841Mar 19 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sabinenamba: @schestowitz Well lets free all prisoners who targeted their victims only random occasional murderers to be jailedMar 19 23:43
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cubezzzI never realized that OpenBSD was in money trouble back in januaryMar 20 01:06
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DaemonFCI commented on a post about the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act's repeal of Glass-Steagall.Mar 20 03:21
DaemonFCI said: Mar 20 03:21
DaemonFCThe scariest part about the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act was that it contained a clause that Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs had Congress put in, that saved them from the 2008 financial crisis. That means that the banksters knew that was coming, in 1999, and had planned ahead.Mar 20 03:21
DaemonFCI just added up the coupons, rebates, and credit card rebate from one of my receipts.Mar 20 05:01
DaemonFCThey totaled $13.37. B-)Mar 20 05:01
DaemonFCFrom an Amazon post of mine:Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCI heard that sometimes, the NSA and FBI even intercept computers ordered from websites like Amazon in transit, install additional spyware, and then put them back into shipping.Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCObviously, the USPS is helping them out, but so is FedEx and UPS.Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCOf course, they "helped" Microsoft and Apple design Windows.Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCMicrosoft was pissed to find out that the NSA had even hacked their internal network and was copying files and emails sent through their internal network.Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCWell, Microsoft gave them the keys to Windows, so what the hell did they think was going to happen?Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCI use Fedora GNU/Linux on my computers, and I mostly avoid proprietary software. I definitely will not tolerate proprietary kernel modules.Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCI threw out Flash and Java ages ago, and then disabled my web browser's ability to load plugins in case any wind up on my system as part of another package.Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCAt a TED talk (via telepresence), Edward Snowden suggested using a secure connection whenever possible to view any website that supported it.Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCHTTPS Everywhere, which I donate money to and help test (I use the beta branch to help find problems in proposed rules and report them), is an excellent idea.Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCSo is Adblock Edge with Easylist+Easy Privacy. There's also those Disconnect extensions that are also Free and Open Source Software, that block your browser from loading external tracking resources and buttons on third party sites from Google and Facebook.Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCSnowden didn't mention evicting all the proprietary software from your computer that you can.Mar 20 06:21
DaemonFCSeriously. The less of it there is, the better. Proprietary software is proprietary software because it is always doing something nasty to you.Mar 20 06:22
DaemonFChttp://gawker.com/police-seek-couple-who-had-public-dumpster-sex-on-st-p-1547489801Mar 20 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gawker.com | Police Seek Couple Who Had Public Dumpster Sex on St. Patrick's Day [ http://ur1.ca/gvzm2 ]Mar 20 06:23
brendynthat remids me, i better download an adblock list for japan before i go there :)Mar 20 06:27
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/446442244967792640Mar 20 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SEEVed: ATMs Open to Hacking - http://t.co/asg4OiDZA0 #WindowsXP #EoL @schestowitzMar 20 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zerohedge.com | ATMs Open to Hacking | Zero HedgeMar 20 07:04
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3786718Mar 20 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: "For the first time since 1945, an avowedly anti-Semitic, pro-Nazi party controls key levers of state power in a European capital, courtesy of #us and #european #imperialism." The #fascist #danger in #ukraine. http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/06/pers-m06.htmlMar 20 07:19
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schestowitz__Oh, give me a break ... fascizm and nazism are all gone forever, just because there's no Hitler or Stalin or Mussolini alive. When others claim that they have anything with it - f%ck them! laught at them! they are indeed ridiculous.""Mar 20 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wsws.org | The fascist danger in Ukraine - World Socialist Web Site [ http://ur1.ca/gvzxy ]Mar 20 07:19
schestowitz__"They are rising for the same reason they rose in the first place. Funding from the US. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar "Mar 20 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/gvzy9 ]Mar 20 07:20
schestowitz__'Even better is when the CIA investigates itself. They haven't found anything wrong yet!"Mar 20 07:22
schestowitz__When the CIA speaks of "separation of power" I guess it means diving people between assassination, torture, etc. Mar 20 07:22
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3788189Mar 20 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US tech companies lobbying to reform #NSA of "taking on" the NSA is just a PR charade;gives illusion of separability (state+corporations).Mar 20 07:23
schestowitz__dividingMar 20 07:23
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3788418Mar 20 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "America's adversaries are testing the limits of America's post-Iraq, post-Afghanistan moment." http://www.fair.org/blog/2014/03/18/obamas-imaginary-foreign-policy-caution/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=obamas-imaginary-foreign-policy-cautionMar 20 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.fair.org | Obama's Imaginary Foreign Policy 'Caution' [ http://ur1.ca/gvzzi ]Mar 20 07:24
schestowitz__"All empires get stretched by greed. Now it's our turn.'Mar 20 07:24
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3788159Mar 20 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Does the #NSA Want to Keep Its Water Usage a Secret? http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2014/03/nsa-water/ Achilles HeelMar 20 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | Why Does the NSA Want to Keep Its Water Usage a Secret? | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com [ http://ur1.ca/gvzzl ]Mar 20 07:24
schestowitz__"What, don't you believe water usage is a matter of national security? If the government says that the color of the toilets is a matter of national security you have no option but to believe it."Mar 20 07:24
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446557261935435776  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446556137861967872    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446555120537731072  Mar 20 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #copyright "progress" http://t.co/aXqk9kAXyPMar 20 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Crisis in Ukraine: #Russia Extends its Control over the Black Sea and Strategic Waterways http://t.co/uEccIXUEWRMar 20 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalresearch.ca | Crisis in Ukraine: Russia Extends its Control over the Black Sea and Strategic Waterways | Global ResearchMar 20 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Crimean ethnic cleansing http://t.co/nADo36P5ozMar 20 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.themoscowtimes.com | Crimean Tatars Asked to Vacate Land, Regional Official Says | The Moscow TimesMar 20 08:09
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446554611558940672   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446553671552495616   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446553277581496320Mar 20 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Nadim shows that #privacy on #facebook #whatsup is a joke https://t.co/OIpT2qsekDMar 20 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Europe's telecom tie-ups signal big shakeup https://t.co/EvfBkgLVD7 think of #eu #netneutrality policyMar 20 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mail.com | Europe's telecom tie-ups signal big shakeup - Sci/Tech newsMar 20 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #windows #security http://t.co/zOx0X4UH2PMar 20 08:10
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446553018235101184   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446552875398074368    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446551500534607872   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446550688597016576Mar 20 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New forms of slavery https://t.co/SoskzQNNkf #mortgage a common typeMar 20 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Not trying https://t.co/xrXOBgAN7KMar 20 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #trademark targets COLOURS. http://t.co/Oa7zg74IJ1 not unusual. Some companies 'own' a colour, i.e. a number. 8bitx8bit,8bitMar 20 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Trademark issue will cause $30,000 worth of multimeters to be destroyed | Ars TechnicaMar 20 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Focusing on currency while amazing animals go extinct, water and food get polluted, etc. https://t.co/gFevDLLCNbMar 20 08:11
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3786050Mar 20 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google just sent me E-mail: "We prevented the sign-in attempt in case this was a hijacker trying to access your account." No, that was me.Mar 20 08:13
schestowitz__"With Quantum, it might have been a man in the middle attack. Ask for details."Mar 20 08:13
cubezzzdid you see the story by Bob Zeidman?Mar 20 08:18
cubezzzhe tried to vindicate Bill Gates by trying to prove he didn't steal from KildallMar 20 08:18
cubezzzZeidman, who was _hired_ by Microsoft!Mar 20 08:19
cubezzzthe reality: the firs 26 function calls in DOS were identical to those in CP/MMar 20 08:21
cubezzzs/firs/first/Mar 20 08:21
cubezzzin 2007 Judge Thomas Zilly dismissed a defamation lawsuit by Paterson on this matter, finding that 36 functions of QDOS were indeed copied from CP/M. Case closed.Mar 20 08:22
cubezzzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/07/kildall_unforensic_ieee_smear/Mar 20 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Bill Gates, Harry Evans and the smearing of a computer legend • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/gw0c8 ]Mar 20 08:23
cubezzzSeattle Computer Products was a cloner of CP/MMar 20 08:26
cubezzzPaterson has admitted using Digitial Research's DDT debugger to explore the internals of CP/MMar 20 08:27
schestowitz__I heard of thatMar 20 08:32
cubezzz26 function calls in the same sequence...Mar 20 08:35
cubezzzanyway, lots of interesting stuff in the comments sectionMar 20 08:42
cubezzzDRI was given the rights to clone any PC-DOS from IBMMar 20 08:44
cubezzzpart of a settlement between IBM and KildallMar 20 08:44
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446566680844849153  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446567538550665216  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446566368541179905   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446565731690618880Mar 20 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Al Franken: Don’t let Comcast “manipulate Internet traffic” http://t.co/BqlGWDUiWX #comcast #internetMar 20 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Al Franken: Don’t let Comcast “manipulate Internet traffic” | Ars TechnicaMar 20 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #pgp in #email is not enough. We need to hide the endpoints, too. Make service which receives many encrypted mails, routes anonymously.Mar 20 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "...Auernheimer's case was an example of a prosecution aimed at a person, not a crime..." http://t.co/02lY7d5zlIMar 20 08:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Los Angeles Cops Argue All Cars in LA Are Under Investigation https://t.co/B2pvW9xmNM same #police force that carried machine guns!Mar 20 08:44
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446565406418165760  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446564685916405760  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446564334962237440   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446563712342962176Mar 20 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: European Parliament covets restart Linux pilot https://t.co/QEEZyDGxtx #gnu #linux #europe #nsa #espionageMar 20 08:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Prominent security mailing list Full Disclosure shuts down indefinitely http://t.co/UvKBL3D9JR so what will #nsa staff read now?Mar 20 08:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Protest as a crime: 2 years in prison for bidding http://t.co/yGhfl4fS8i old but relevantMar 20 08:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux-based telepresence robot navigates autonomously http://t.co/xxfyfx3Vyu #linuxMar 20 08:45
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446561157730803712  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446560765383032832  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446560540580921344  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446557261935435776Mar 20 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Danish Central Bank Compares Bitcoins to ‘Glass Beads’ http://t.co/UBE0TZ3Qn4 #bitcoin #fudMar 20 08:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Now we know, based on new evidence, that companies in US can no longer deny not knowing about how they were infiltrated by #nsaMar 20 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #google #facbook : blocking IPs, asking people to change password, asking for phone numbers for 'security', but hand over data to #nsaMar 20 08:46
cubezzzBill Gates' Mom was IBM chairman John F Akers executive secretary :)Mar 20 08:56
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3790955Mar 20 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #enlightenment is now supporting #wayland https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/wayland/ I use this DE to write my articlesMar 20 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/wayland/ )Mar 20 09:21
schestowitz__"I've got it installed, I need to use it more often."Mar 20 09:21
schestowitz__cubezzz: I heard thatMar 20 09:21
schestowitz__but I didn't know her exact roleMar 20 09:21
schestowitz__Little Billy had his career paved for himMar 20 09:21
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/4465768793788907524Mar 20 09:22
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cubezzz+Mar 20 09:30
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446570989833707520 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446572781262868480  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446573122448535552    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446574363924770816   Mar 20 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: What #cnn says about #boeing marketing crisis http://t.co/HAJcIS7HEvMar 20 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Disappearing AircraftMar 20 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Authentication that harms one's #dignity with #biometrics http://t.co/XSzxzu3XVe is this the future? Collecting MORE biometrics?Mar 20 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.finextra.com | Finextra: Natural Security Alliance releases latest biometric authentication specsMar 20 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #backdoors proponent #nist (pro #surveillance based on leaks) says it wants "secure" mobile (tracking) tech http://t.co/D2B7YSmYwYMar 20 09:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #enlightenment is now supporting #wayland https://t.co/w14WgTWyL1 I use this DE to write my articlesMar 20 09:30
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446575746656788480  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446576412255088640Mar 20 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Off" button for webcams in #gnu #linux http://t.co/J64PVZKuH6 good idea, should be physical switchMar 20 09:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Debian Installer Jessie Alpha 1 release https://t.co/DJbTacs9Ns #debian #gnu #linuxMar 20 09:30
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MinceRgeekingsMar 20 09:33
cubezzzalso I should mention that the original BASIC was developed at Dartmouth, a nonprofit educational institutionMar 20 09:34
cubezzzGates' Dad, an intellectual property lawyer, who never ever mentions free services like Wikipedia :)Mar 20 09:36
cubezzzso ...dumpster diving for BASIC code, using stolen PDP-10 computer time then later on dissing public educationMar 20 09:37
cubezzzthere was definitely an early Gates/IBM connectionMar 20 09:41
cubezzzand it was John AkersMar 20 09:41
cubezzznot saying Gary Kildall was perfect thoughMar 20 09:42
cubezzzhe borrowed ideas from DEC, e.g. RT-11 is similar to CP/MMar 20 09:43
cubezzzthe problem is that people worship wealthMar 20 09:44
cubezzzGates efforts to try to privatize public schools is worrisomeMar 20 09:45
cubezzzmore privateers and opportunists :-/Mar 20 09:46
cubezzzJohn Opel was the one that approved the inclusion of MSDOS with the IBM PC Mar 20 09:50
cubezzza perfect storm, all leading to years and years of proprietary softwareMar 20 09:52
cubezzzAT&T did offer Unix source licenses cheapMar 20 09:52
cubezzz$100 for educational use, in 1979Mar 20 09:53
cubezzzso not great, but not terrible... later on it gets jacked up to $800 Mar 20 09:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: We've Entered The Age Of 'Fiber To The Press Release' http://t.co/49OwJSSbYP "no hard specifics on how many people will get the upgrades"Mar 20 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | We've Entered The Age Of 'Fiber To The Press Release' | TechdirtMar 20 09:54
cubezzzin computer software terms, there really was a 'good old days'Mar 20 10:02
cubezzzit's definitely something I'm going to look into more, but I'll briefly list the early open source stuff:Mar 20 10:03
cubezzzthe Share user group for IBM 701Mar 20 10:04
cubezzzDMS for IBM 1130Mar 20 10:04
cubezzzOS/360-MVT for early IBM System/360Mar 20 10:04
cubezzzAirline Control Program (ACP) distributed with full sourceMar 20 10:04
cubezzzDEC RT-11 distributed with source for PDP-11'sMar 20 10:05
cubezzzDr Dobb's Journal published for listings for Tiny BASICMar 20 10:06
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3786077Mar 20 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: KDE Works On Input Redirection, Wayland Cursor Themes http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYzNDU #kde #gnu #linuxMar 20 10:33
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schestowitz__"Mageia Cauldron has just put up Krita Sketch, which I am testing on my laptop, despite it being a mobile app kind of thing. I think it's still a hair too stripped down, it's missing easy clear feature for instance. Otherwise the design and function is pretty great."Mar 20 10:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446582398063751168  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446586190641528832   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446586558939140096   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/446588074601250817Mar 20 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Canonical prepping up to release the first stable Ubuntu Touch Qt 5.2.1-based images http://t.co/5fMKLCL6UZ #canonical #ubuntu #gnu #linuxMar 20 10:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Sony open sources games tools framework: woos developers to Playstation land http://t.co/hz285Eh3qm self-serving but not evilMar 20 10:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Vietnam fails to develop open source software for state agencies http://t.co/jo4P9DeLs4 tux mascot on the keyboardMar 20 10:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04 Now Runs Well On The 2013 MacBookMar 20 13:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 20 17:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/leOxKeEYAAMar 20 17:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesMar 20 17:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/YBdR55Ig6IMar 20 17:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesMar 20 17:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source gets 'major role in FutureMar 20 17:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Internet' http://t.co/Bj7treCwMyMar 20 17:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source gets 'major role in Future Internet' | Tux MachinesMar 20 17:52
DaemonFChttp://www.extremetech.com/computing/178659-firefox-28-released-windows-8-metro-version-removed-at-the-last-moment-because-it-only-had-1000-usersMar 20 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.extremetech.com | Firefox 28 released: Windows 8 Metro version removed at the last moment because it only had 1,000 users | ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/gw3sh ]Mar 20 18:29
DaemonFCNobody uses "Metro", so Firefox spent all that time and money developing for it for no reason.Mar 20 18:29
Sosumiold newsMar 20 19:10
Sosumiand metro is a failure at GUI designMar 20 19:10
Sosumiit's just apple's dashboard and launchpad duct taped while being less functionalMar 20 19:12
Sosumiand dashboard was actually niceMar 20 19:13
Sosumiwhat is kind of concerning now is the implementation of the sata express standardMar 20 19:17
Sosumiwhich takes what would be two regular sata portsMar 20 19:18
Sosumiplus a special portMar 20 19:18
Sosumiinstead of a dedicated connectorMar 20 19:19
Sosumihttp://www.anandtech.com/show/7843/testing-sata-express-with-asus/2Mar 20 19:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | Testing SATA Express And Why We Need Faster SSDs [ http://ur1.ca/gw42j ]Mar 20 19:22
DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/20/1285592/-Cartoon-Paul-Ryan-tours-the-inner-cityMar 20 19:22
Sosumion that boardMar 20 19:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailykos.com | Cartoon: Paul Ryan tours the 'inner city' [ http://ur1.ca/gw42m ]Mar 20 19:22
Sosumiyou can either have 4 sata hdds/ssdsMar 20 19:22
DaemonFCMy next system will have an ssd.Mar 20 19:22
Sosumior just two sata express SSDsMar 20 19:22
Sosumikind of limitingMar 20 19:22
SosumiDaemonFC, just make sure you don't buy OCZ SSDsMar 20 19:25
DaemonFCI see a lot of those on refurb sales.Mar 20 19:30
DaemonFCI suppose that's like hard drive refurbs. They zero the bad sector count and sell them again.Mar 20 19:31
DaemonFChttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/XorgWithoutRootRightsMar 20 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Changes/XorgWithoutRootRights - FedoraProject [ http://ur1.ca/gw44k ]Mar 20 19:34
Sosumino, I meant it as OCZ's ssds tend to fail prematurelyMar 20 19:36
Sosumiand haven't had much luck with two 256GB vectorsMar 20 19:37
SosumieitherMar 20 19:37
Sosumibut the problem on those are at firmware levelMar 20 19:38
Sosumicausing raid to fail sometimesMar 20 19:38
SosumiRAID1Mar 20 19:38
Sosumibut samsung and intel ssds so far have been extremely reliable for meMar 20 19:39
Sosumihttp://fairewinds.org/media/fairewinds-videos/cancer-risk-young-children-near-fukushima-daiichi-underestimatedMar 20 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fairewinds.org | Cancer Risk To Young Children Near Fukushima Daiichi Underestimated | Fairewinds Energy Education [ http://ur1.ca/gw45o ]Mar 20 19:41
Sosumithe most radiating olympics EVER!Mar 20 19:41
Sosumialso if you want to get a japanese wifu, well get one before they grow tentacles and start glowingMar 20 19:42
DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTYzNzAMar 20 20:12
DaemonFCThis might be a good time to use Kubuntu.Mar 20 20:12
DaemonFCThey're freezing on a known good KDE. Mar 20 20:12
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Sosuminot a fan of ubuntuMar 20 20:31
cubezzzSosumi, what do you use?Mar 20 20:31
Sosumifedora and rhelMar 20 20:32
Sosumibut to use an ubuntu derivativeMar 20 20:32
Sosumiwhy just not use debyanMar 20 20:32
Sosumi*debianMar 20 20:32
DaemonFCSeen on Occupy Democrats on Facebook:Mar 20 20:36
DaemonFCRepublican MonopolyMar 20 20:36
DaemonFCOne player starts with 99% of the money and property, and pays no taxes.Mar 20 20:36
DaemonFCEveryone else starts out with $20 cash and $500 in debt, and collects minimum wage when they pass Go. Mar 20 20:36
Sosumiand nvidia is hyping the dx12Mar 20 20:41
Sosuminever seen them hyping opengl for gaming nor gnu/linuxMar 20 20:42
Sosumihttp://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/03/20/directx-12/#disqus_threadMar 20 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.nvidia.com | Why DirectX 12 Is a Huge Step Forward for Gaming [ http://ur1.ca/gw4fs ]Mar 20 20:42
Sosumithere's the link for the propaganda "piss"Mar 20 20:42
cubezzzguess who this is:Mar 20 20:46
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/hacker.pngMar 20 20:46
Sosumibill joy?Mar 20 20:48
cubezzzhahaMar 20 20:48
cubezzzit's Stallman :)Mar 20 20:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 20 20:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 28 released: Windows 8 Metro versionMar 20 20:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 28 released: Windows 8 Metro version removed at the last moment because it only had 1,000 users | Tux MachinesMar 20 20:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gnome Boxes 3.12 http://t.co/mi70hysyIAMar 20 20:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     European Union in talks to move to the OpenMar 20 20:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gnome Boxes 3.12 | Tux MachinesMar 20 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | European Union in talks to move to the Open Document Format | Tux MachinesMar 20 20:52
DaemonFCSosumi: I think AMD Mantle is pretty neat.Mar 20 21:03
DaemonFCThey wrote it because DirectX and OpenGL are bloated and not highly optimized for modern graphics hardware.Mar 20 21:03
DaemonFCAMD sponsored a port of Battlefield 4 iirc, and when it runs on Mantle, it's 40-60% faster on the same hardware as the DirectX 11 version.Mar 20 21:04
DaemonFCI don't even know why they call it DirectX anymore. The only major surviving component is Direct3d.Mar 20 21:05
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Mar 20 21:23
DaemonFCThe Chrome OS UI on top of Vista 8 is a serious WTF for me, because you can get a really fast Samsung Chromebook for about $170 (refurbished) and skip the expensive malware-saddled bloatware from Microsoft.Mar 20 21:23
DaemonFCMost of Amazon's top selling laptops run Chrome OS now, which is based on a stripped down version of Gentoo GNU/Linux. Mar 20 21:23
Sosumiwasn't mantle all about audio?Mar 20 21:39
Sosumisimply by doing all the audio processing on the gpu?Mar 20 21:39
Sosumiinstead of on the cpuMar 20 21:39
Sosumibecause M$ killed the entire "discrete" sound cards thingMar 20 21:40
Sosumiwhen they launched vistaMar 20 21:40
Sosumiby removing the audio stack from kernel spaceMar 20 21:40
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/03/arrest-of-secret-leaking-ex-microsoftie-raises-hotmail-privacy-concerns/Mar 20 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Arrest of secret-leaking ex-Microsoftie raises Hotmail privacy concerns | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gw4rz ]Mar 20 21:55
Sosumiand good nightMar 20 21:59
Sosumihttp://spontaneousderivation.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/lol-cthulhu.jpgMar 20 21:59
MinceR:)Mar 20 21:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 21 Gets U-Boot, Xorg, jQuery ChangesMar 20 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Huawei kills plans to launch a dual-OS WindowsMar 20 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Blender 2.70 Release NotesMar 20 22:54
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DaemonFCSomeone told me that there's an iPhone app that teaches people how to breathe slowly.Mar 20 23:47
DaemonFCI said, "I don't find it surprising that people with enough money for an iPhone haven't gotten the whole breathing thing figured out yet."Mar 20 23:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE 4.13 Makes It Into Kubuntu 14.04 LTSMar 21 05:10
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxYPOEHAQU816SMar 21 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Billy Graham's daughter thinks she solved the disappearance of Flight 370. [ http://ur1.ca/gw6mi ]Mar 21 05:18
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Mar 21 05:18
DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/belief/billy-grahams-daughter-thinks-she-has-solved-mystery-flight-370Mar 21 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org | Billy Graham's Daughter Thinks She has Solved the Mystery of Flight 370 | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/gw6mj ]Mar 21 05:18
DaemonFCIt's a test rapture. If this one succeeds, it'll spread to other areas. *grin*Mar 21 05:18
DaemonFCLike Google Fiber, we might be waiting for a while. In the mean time, please feel free to wait in Comcast Purgatory. It's Comcastitory. Mar 21 05:18
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MinceR004736 < DaemonFC> I said, "I don't find it surprising that people with enough money for an iPhone haven't gotten the whole breathing thing figured out yet."Mar 21 07:33
MinceRlolMar 21 07:33
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Sosumithere's also an iphone app that makes your iphone waterproofMar 21 11:34
Sosumiyou need to check that outMar 21 11:34
MinceRi don't need to check it out because i don't have a hypePhone :>Mar 21 11:45
Sosumijust use an iphone simulatorMar 21 11:46
Sosumiof which that brings in the mactard logicMar 21 11:47
Sosumimactard: if I install an app on my iphone simulator that makes my iphone waterproof, will it also make my mac waterproof?Mar 21 11:47
MinceR:>Mar 21 11:48
Sosumihttp://rt.com/usa/syrian-hackers-reveal-fbi-microsoft-205/Mar 21 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | Syrian hackers claim to reveal how much FBI pays Microsoft for customer data — RT USA [ http://ur1.ca/gw8yf ]Mar 21 12:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Trojita 0.4.1, a security update forMar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 CVE-2014-2567 / Announcing Geary 0.6.0Mar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GkxD3SWOZnMar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gw90vMar 21 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trojita 0.4.1, a security update for CVE-2014-2567 / Announcing Geary 0.6.0 | Tux MachinesMar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android-x86 Just Might Make a Good LinuxMar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Alternative http://t.co/2Z4kecgDqCMar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gw90wMar 21 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android-x86 Just Might Make a Good Linux Desktop Alternative | Tux MachinesMar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Trying Out The Debian 8.0 Jessie InstallerMar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Alpha 1 http://t.co/83zlJ6ZzLkMar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gw90yMar 21 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trying Out The Debian 8.0 Jessie Installer Alpha 1 | Tux MachinesMar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Apache and Nginx Web Servers GetMar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines                 More Secure http://t.co/YIo6XWJA0gMar 21 12:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gw90zMar 21 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Apache and Nginx Web Servers Get More Secure | Tux MachinesMar 21 12:22
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DaemonFCI might head over to the library.Mar 21 19:55
DaemonFCI can't remember the last time I actually read a physical book.Mar 21 19:55
DaemonFCAfter watching that series "Clash of the Gods", I've kind of been wanting to read The Odyssey and Beowulf. Mar 21 19:56
DaemonFCSomeone I know who was in high school several years ago said that they made him read that. I told him he should consider himself lucky.Mar 21 19:57
DaemonFCI had to read Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead.Mar 21 19:57
DaemonFCI kind of wish that I got the Cliff's Notes version.Mar 21 19:57
DaemonFCThey could probably easily condense Atlas Shrugged by 80% or more.Mar 21 19:58
DaemonFCThe ironic part is that Ayn Rand enrolled in Social Security and Medicare and lived off of that for years before she died.Mar 21 19:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/99dnShm0zJMar 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwbumMar 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Mint 17 to Be Called “Qiana,” ReleaseMar 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Date Announced http://t.co/RtmCRetS93Mar 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwbunMar 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NVIDIA, Intel, and AMD Join Forces to ImproveMar 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenGL Performance Up to 15 TimesMar 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dVVGOuhoumMar 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwbuoMar 21 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ATM operators eye Linux as alternative toMar 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows XP http://t.co/mhJkCPOFUCMar 21 21:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwbupMar 21 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 17 to Be Called “Qiana,” Release Date Announced | Tux MachinesMar 21 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA, Intel, and AMD Join Forces to Improve OpenGL Performance Up to 15 Times | Tux MachinesMar 21 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ATM operators eye Linux as alternative to Windows XP | Tux MachinesMar 21 21:21
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Cirrus_Minorhttp://www.speedtest.net/result/3387029319.pngMar 21 22:33
cubezzzif anyone wants to learn more about tricholoroethylene (it's used in chip fab) there's toxipediaMar 21 23:43
cubezzzhttp://www.toxipedia.org/display/toxipedia/TrichloroethyleneMar 21 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.toxipedia.org | Trichloroethylene - Toxipedia [ http://ur1.ca/gwcg6 ]Mar 21 23:43
cubezzzthe main TCE polluters: Fairchild Semicomductor, Intel, Raytheon Company, probably tons of othersMar 21 23:46
cubezzzbtw, this is old newsMar 21 23:47
cubezzzthe EPA knew about TCE in drinking water back in 1975Mar 21 23:48
cubezzzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View-Master_factory_supply_wellMar 21 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | View-Master factory supply well - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gwch1 ]Mar 21 23:50
cubezzzso if you ever wondered why more people seem to get cancer in North America 1975 to 1990, well that was one of the reasonsMar 21 23:56
cubezzzafter that, most of the chip fab moved outside of North AmericaMar 21 23:57
cubezzzTCE is still used now of course, but it's a lot lessMar 21 23:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Ships 4.13 Beta 3 http://t.co/0pLTsDRtOFMar 22 00:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwck9Mar 22 00:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Report: Tor Project Leaders Call Out Fake TorMar 22 00:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Browser http://t.co/uxfkOmYNPkMar 22 00:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Ships 4.13 Beta 3 | Tux MachinesMar 22 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Report: Tor Project Leaders Call Out Fake Tor Browser | Tux MachinesMar 22 00:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ZTE FunBox and MeBox take divergent Android TVMar 22 01:11
TweetTuxMachines                 paths http://t.co/sGFzV5WwMuMar 22 01:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwcrjMar 22 01:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME: 3.12 almost here http://t.co/SzMIlW0nHkMar 22 01:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwcrkMar 22 01:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Wraps Latest Open Source Offerings intoMar 22 01:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Software Collections http://t.co/TweRHraXp6Mar 22 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ZTE FunBox and MeBox take divergent Android TV paths | Tux MachinesMar 22 01:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwcrlMar 22 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME: 3.12 almost here | Tux MachinesMar 22 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Wraps Latest Open Source Offerings into Software Collections | Tux MachinesMar 22 01:11
MinceRgnMar 22 01:30
gde33but if we all put our own cameras all over the house and host our own personal data, imagine the government savings?Mar 22 01:48
gde33could have a space programMar 22 01:49
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DaemonFChttp://androidandme.com/2014/03/news/apple-considering-releasing-an-itunes-app-for-android/Mar 22 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-androidandme.com | Apple considering releasing an iTunes app for Android | Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/gwdyp ]Mar 22 06:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Ubuntu Tablets To Launch This AutumnMar 22 07:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/bw2bUn8MOIMar 22 07:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Ubuntu Tablets To Launch This Autumn | Tux MachinesMar 22 07:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why the media loves to exaggerate LinuxMar 22 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 security problems http://t.co/LUt2Ej5VejMar 22 08:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Goes to the Head of the ClassMar 22 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/W2RaxGEgfuMar 22 08:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why the media loves to exaggerate Linux security problems | Tux MachinesMar 22 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Goes to the Head of the Class | Tux MachinesMar 22 08:56
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Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/21/apple-email-terms/Mar 22 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Apple and Google, Like Microsoft, Reserve Right to Read Customer Emails - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gwemw ]Mar 22 09:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google propels Linux to the topMar 22 09:53
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kV3kKkKaO8Mar 22 09:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwes7Mar 22 09:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     IGF Winner Cart Life Departs Steam For OpenMar 22 09:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Waters http://t.co/B5EWPzQLCvMar 22 09:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwes8Mar 22 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google propels Linux to the top | Tux MachinesMar 22 09:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenStack job market doubles, open-sourceMar 22 09:53
TweetTuxMachines                 opportunities abound http://t.co/nd03UVlXcsMar 22 09:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwes9Mar 22 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IGF Winner Cart Life Departs Steam For Open Source Waters | Tux MachinesMar 22 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenStack job market doubles, open-source opportunities abound | Tux MachinesMar 22 09:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Security Exaggeration, Linux on ATMs, and MacMar 22 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu http://t.co/8ptONwuONyMar 22 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwf72Mar 22 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Exaggeration, Linux on ATMs, and Mac Ubuntu | Tux MachinesMar 22 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Video of Unity 8 showcasing Mir’s capabilitiesMar 22 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 released http://t.co/Vcq4MEHmUtMar 22 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwf73Mar 22 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Video of Unity 8 showcasing Mir’s capabilities released | Tux MachinesMar 22 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     President Obama to ditch BlackBerry, switch toMar 22 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Android http://t.co/d17uEpch4oMar 22 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gwf74Mar 22 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | President Obama to ditch BlackBerry, switch to Android | Tux MachinesMar 22 11:41
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SosumiI thought Obozo was to ditch the white house to become a stand up comedianMar 22 12:49
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sebsebsebhiMar 22 14:41
MinceRhayMar 22 14:42
sebsebsebMinceR: you can watch Libre Planet online nowMar 22 14:48
MinceRwhat's that?Mar 22 14:48
sebsebsebMinceR: oh you don't knowMar 22 14:49
sebsebsebMinceR: a big Free Software Founation and such eventMar 22 14:49
sebsebsebfrom USAMar 22 14:49
MinceRicMar 22 14:50
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SosumilawlMar 22 16:52
Sosumiukraine's only submarine defected to the russian sideMar 22 16:53
Sosumiand is part of the black sea fleat nowMar 22 16:54
sebsebsebSosumi: EU and USA aren't happy about all that it seemsMar 22 17:05
sebsebseb,but  what can they do realyMar 22 17:05
sebsebsebSosumi: maybe they should let the Ukraine russinas go to RUSSIAMar 22 17:06
sebsebseband then let Ukraine go to EUropeMar 22 17:06
sebsebseb,but  not quite as simple as thatMar 22 17:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Engaging developers http://t.co/Rebln2KNkQMar 22 18:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Engaging developers | Tux MachinesMar 22 18:00
MinceRyou mean the russians living in ukraine should move to russia? :>Mar 22 18:23
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schestowitz__If they are of Russian origins and are living in Ukraine they may actually be UkrainianMar 22 19:46
schestowitz__Citizenship can count more than 'blood' basisMar 22 19:46
schestowitz__But either way, I think Ukraine should be left alone, without intervention from neither sideMar 22 19:46
schestowitz__The West decided to play its coup by helping a riseup, now it's seeing a reactionMar 22 19:47
schestowitz__for every action there's a reaction, including the reaction to the arming of Arabs to fight the Soviets -- now we have AQMar 22 19:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 3.12.0Mar 22 20:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cClLeNcZIZMar 22 20:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apple may bring iTunes to Android, and it makesMar 22 20:23
TweetTuxMachines                 sense http://t.co/zMbLkI6jclMar 22 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 3.12.0 | Tux MachinesMar 22 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apple may bring iTunes to Android, and it makes sense | Tux MachinesMar 22 20:23
schestowitzhttp://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Exeter-Raspberry-Pi-jam-22-3-2014/story-20842529-detail/story.htmlMar 22 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk | Exeter Raspberry Pi jam 22/3/2014 | Torquay Herald Express [ http://ur1.ca/gwhc6 ]Mar 22 20:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3804147Mar 22 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Journalist schools BBC on #Russian intervention in #Crimea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kl2mfHQwQsMar 22 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Journalist schools BBC on Russian intervention in Crimea - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gwhd7 ]Mar 22 20:33
schestowitz"So many statements, I don't know how to comment all that :-)."Mar 22 20:33
SosumiiTunes on android so you can listen those iTunes only launched albumsMar 22 20:48
Sosumiby beyoncee, justin beaver and anna montanaMar 22 20:48
MinceRlolMar 22 21:03
Sosumihttp://enenews.com/gundersen-terrifying-cancer-data-for-fukushima-statistics-are-astounding-especially-for-young-girls-growing-concern-around-cancer-risk-videoMar 22 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enenews.com | Gundersen: Terrifying cancer data for Fukushima — “Statistics are astounding especially for young girls” — “Growing concern around cancer risk” (VIDEO) [ http://ur1.ca/gwhix ]Mar 22 21:13
Sosumiexpect the next gen of iphones to not only include a barometer and thermometerMar 22 21:14
Sosumibut also a dosimeterMar 22 21:14
Sosumiso you know how kewl it'll to know how much time to live you still have availableMar 22 21:14
Sosumi*beMar 22 21:15
SosumiofcMar 22 21:15
Sosumiliving time will be sharply decreased if you listen to itune's recommended playlistsMar 22 21:15
Sosumijustin beaver? my ears are bleedingMar 22 21:16
Sosumibut don't worry, crapple's propaganda ministry will say that it is radiation's faultMar 22 21:17
MinceRi expect the galaxy s series to have a dosimeter before the hypePhones do :>Mar 22 21:20
Sosumihttp://enenews.com/fukushima-evacuee-50-class-nosebleeds-same-time-recurring-hear-immune-system-problems-reported-many-families-videoMar 22 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enenews.com | Fukushima Evacuee: 50% of class with nosebleeds at same time; This is a recurring thing — Immune system problems reported by many families (VIDEO) [ http://ur1.ca/gwho9 ]Mar 22 21:49
Sosumihttp://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/workstations/mac-to-z.html?jumpid=sc_r10048_mac_to_z_march2019Mar 22 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www8.hp.com | Mac to Z | HP® Official Site [ http://ur1.ca/gwhxv ]Mar 22 22:56
Sosumihp's counter-propagandaMar 22 22:56
Sosumibut they forget to mentionMar 22 22:56
Sosumicrappy capacitors, improper spacing of the pci-e slots for four gpus or compute cards and a kind of crappy delta psuMar 22 22:58
MinceRand it's still better than crApple crap :>Mar 22 22:58
Sosumifor serious use asus has a much better that allows all thatMar 22 22:58
Sosumi*boardMar 22 22:58
Sosumiand corsair is also about to launch a nice 1500w psuMar 22 22:58
Sosumiallowing for much than what hp offers with the same moneyMar 22 22:59
Sosumicrapple's design doesn't even consider cooling voltage regulatorsMar 22 23:00
Sosumibut they are at least using nippon chemi capacitors on their acbel manufactured psuMar 22 23:00
Sosumifans are of the same brand on bothMar 22 23:01
Sosumiall made by nidecMar 22 23:01
Sosumicrapple also failed on the design of the inner heathspreaderMar 22 23:03
Sosumiby not making it in a single piece of copperMar 22 23:03
Sosumiinstead it is made of aluminum and copper sheets on the contact areas with componentsMar 22 23:04
Sosumifor the money they're asking and the thermal constraints of the thingMar 22 23:04
Sosumiit feels like they just did what they could to be cheapen it to the maxMar 22 23:05
Sosumihp also has cheapen the their workstationsMar 22 23:06
Sosumibut at least they offer 3 years warrantyMar 22 23:06
Sosumiwith on site repairs/replacementsMar 22 23:06
*rysiek|pl is now known as DiabelkoMar 22 23:43
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Sosumiapparently in the KSA all you can have is starvationMar 16 15:55
Sosumiall starvation buffetMar 16 15:56
Sosumitake gulps of air and go die in some cornerMar 16 15:56
MinceR:>Mar 16 15:56
MinceRit's the way their god would like you to go.Mar 16 15:56
MinceRif their god existed, that is.Mar 16 15:57
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Sosumiif their good was real, I'm certain he wouldn't need a beardie wearing table towels to speak for himselfMar 16 15:58
MinceR:>Mar 16 15:59
Sosumicome he's god, all powerful, omnipotent and omniscient,Mar 16 15:59
Sosumicertainly not a social inept dudeMar 16 15:59
MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2292Mar 16 16:00
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Sosumithe ball theodicy is a reference to LiebntzMar 16 16:01
Sosumiand the actual name of one of his booksMar 16 16:02
SosumiI still need to finish reading it and learning more in detail about the monadsMar 16 16:03
Sosumibut not now :)Mar 16 16:03
Sosumihttps://twitter.com/WMRDC/status/445229650072317952Mar 16 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@WMRDC: Pakistan's two major English-language papers omit news on MH370 on their front pgs. Could plane be in Pak? Today at http://t.co/qdoHRIJHGjMar 16 16:15
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cubezzzdid they really wear those ridiculous wigs in the 1600's?Mar 16 17:38
cubezzzlong hair: fashionable in 1630s and 1640sMar 16 17:41
cubezzzthen they switched to wigs around 1660 (evidently)Mar 16 17:41
cubezzzthe big hair 1980s has nothing on 1660Mar 16 17:49
MinceRhttp://media.cagle.com/144/2014/03/14/145727_600.jpgMar 16 18:04
Sosumieven the pharaohs in egypt used wigsMar 16 18:13
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Sosumihttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-16/exit-polls-confirm-93-voters-back-crimea-joining-russiaMar 16 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Exit Polls Confirm 93% Of Voters Back Crimea Joining Russia | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gv5ut ]Mar 16 18:15
Sosumitoday's Crimea, tomorrows's the entire europeMar 16 18:15
Sosumiyepi ki yay ObozoMar 16 18:16
MinceRhttp://imagerz.com/QFdDW1wGAAUMar 16 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imagerz.com | ImagerzMar 16 18:21
cubezzzno, that's too paranoidMar 16 18:25
cubezzzPutin probably just wants a kind of neo-USSRMar 16 18:25
MinceRi hope he doesn't rush the eastern bloc before i leave the countryMar 16 18:27
Sosumiyou guys don't seem to like neither putin or russiaMar 16 19:01
Sosumibut those coup guys in kiev are much worstMar 16 19:01
Sosumithey even pledged what remained of ukraine's gold reserves for a IMF/US loanMar 16 19:02
Sosumiand are to privatise everythingMar 16 19:02
Sosumifrom what I have heard, they are to give the pipelinen to chevronMar 16 19:02
Sosumiand some farmland also seems to be on the chopping blockMar 16 19:03
Sosumiwith peasants being driven out of their landMar 16 19:04
MinceRdoes that mean that we should like putin, russia and yanukovych?Mar 16 19:04
Sosumiand it doesn't seem rosy on the coal and steel industry thereMar 16 19:04
SosumiI don't like any of themMar 16 19:04
MinceRthen don't be so surprised that i don't like them :>Mar 16 19:04
Sosumibut evaluating the sceneMar 16 19:05
Sosumiputin hasn't done anything wrongMar 16 19:05
Sosumiwhat he did was merely defensiveMar 16 19:05
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MinceRas far as i can tell, he has done plenty wrongMar 16 19:05
Sosumispecially when you have the puppets in kiev giving concessions to the missile shieldMar 16 19:05
Sosumilike?Mar 16 19:05
MinceRand he has no right to be defensive in the place of his puppetMar 16 19:06
Sosumithe former president?Mar 16 19:06
MinceRyesMar 16 19:06
Sosumithe former president was hardly his puppet, he was more of another oligarch who escaped to ukraine rather than facing the fate other russian oligarchs sufferedMar 16 19:07
cubezzza business environment might like mwm because there's really no frivilous stuff Mar 16 19:16
cubezzzno volume controlMar 16 19:17
cubezzzless likely a worker will be looking at youtube videos :)Mar 16 19:17
MinceRit's not the only environment the workers have access to, though :>Mar 16 19:18
MinceRand once i even found a way to replace it with metacity even though some scripts depended on mwm running first :>Mar 16 19:18
MinceR(i wrote the command to run metacity after it in the script and killed mwm after everything started :> )Mar 16 19:19
cubezzzwell yeah plus you could just run two window managersMar 16 19:19
MinceRon the same display? they'd probably get into a fight :>Mar 16 19:20
cubezzzI'Mar 16 19:32
cubezzzI've had kde and mwm and fvwm work on different displaysMar 16 19:32
MinceRi used kde with fvwm for a while :>Mar 16 19:34
gde33I just remembered an old troll of mine, it seems a sound way arround censorshipMar 16 19:43
gde33if the site admin is to statistic happy you can make urls for his site like example.com?msg=trollololMar 16 19:44
gde33he cant be reasonably expected to discard that informationMar 16 19:44
gde33it is just a log of people visiting his websiteMar 16 19:44
gde33if the other guy also has a website, one can message him backMar 16 19:45
gde33the messages can be quite bigMar 16 19:45
gde33just as long as no anticipating website is configured one cant be blamed for receavingMar 16 19:45
gde33the sender can be hidden easilyMar 16 19:46
gde33solution: make error logging illegalMar 16 19:47
MinceR:>Mar 16 19:47
MinceRor just make running web servers illegal for anyone except state-sanctioned organizationsMar 16 19:47
Sosumihttp://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/16/us-ukraine-crisis-yatseniuk-idUSBREA2F0E920140316Mar 16 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | Ukraine declares national guard call-up, warns pro-Russia separatists | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/gv6d3 ]Mar 16 19:47
cubezzzI usually just say "can you compile your kernel"?Mar 16 19:47
cubezzzthat shuts up most trollsMar 16 19:48
Sosumithis is the third time the coup gov has called the reservistsMar 16 19:48
gde33we already have that on volentary basis, it wouldn't be a big step to make facebook the lawMar 16 19:48
MinceRindeedMar 16 19:48
Sosumiyet no one seems too found of Yats the ratMar 16 19:48
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MinceRhe's not much better than his predecessors, apparentlyMar 16 19:50
MinceRthen again, most of the EU is ruled by EPP membersMar 16 19:50
Sosumihere's the saying I used to mutter when the arab spring was on its highestMar 16 19:51
Sosumi"meet the new boss, same or worst than the previous one"Mar 16 19:51
cubezzzI wish I had a way to go to a particular konsole tabMar 16 19:51
MinceR:>Mar 16 19:51
gde33the overal situation is much more desturbing than any of you/us thinkMar 16 19:52
gde33I'm still recovering from laughter/irony of some guy claiming previous generations made a mess from things, he couldn't be blamed for george bush because he was 12 when he entered office.Mar 16 19:52
gde33that makes it our fault manMar 16 19:52
gde33think about itMar 16 19:52
MinceRi doubt you know how disturbing i think the overall situation is :>Mar 16 19:52
gde33lolMar 16 19:52
SosumiI'm not even a US citizen, how can that be my fault?Mar 16 19:52
Sosumi:)Mar 16 19:52
gde33we didn't pressure the US enoughMar 16 19:52
gde33our guy just noddedMar 16 19:53
MinceRwe and what army?Mar 16 19:53
gde33all this mess, we allowed it to happenMar 16 19:53
Sosumipressure the US with what?Mar 16 19:53
gde33dollarsMar 16 19:53
Sosumilast timer I looked I was still working on my bfg9000Mar 16 19:53
gde33capitalists are easy to get along withMar 16 19:54
gde33all they want is moneyMar 16 19:54
gde33which is nothing but faces printed on bits of paper, or not even thatMar 16 19:54
gde33more agreable a person one couldn't run intoMar 16 19:54
Sosumithen we should pour molten gold into their headsMar 16 19:54
gde33the US is really everyones friendMar 16 19:54
MinceRSosumi: :)Mar 16 19:55
cubezzzAlaska?Mar 16 19:55
Sosumiin order to appease such pplMar 16 19:55
cubezzzthat wasn't too friendlyMar 16 19:55
cubezzzand why the big strip down the west coast??Mar 16 19:55
gde33the financial spectacle is over the last 1 cent of value of the dollar, the euro is annother 1 cent coinMar 16 19:56
cubezzzBoycott Microsoft, that's all I can doMar 16 19:56
gde33make something betterMar 16 19:57
gde33Easier than it sounds, the guru's all say that you have to build a great team to make great things.Mar 16 19:58
MinceRmany people already haveMar 16 19:58
cubezzzBell Labs didMar 16 19:58
gde33Everyone is keeping the fun code assignments for himself, it's a kind of greed. lolMar 16 19:58
gde33look what I'VE made.. etc..Mar 16 19:59
gde33MEMar 16 19:59
cubezzzthat's part of itMar 16 19:59
gde33thats not compatible with sharingMar 16 19:59
cubezzzeveryone likes some recognitionMar 16 19:59
MinceRattribution is very compatible with sharingMar 16 19:59
gde33it only seems that wayMar 16 20:00
gde33the goal should be to write kick ass softwareMar 16 20:00
gde33any aditional goals will go at the expense of thatMar 16 20:00
MinceRunlikelyMar 16 20:01
cubezzzno one remembers who wrote Mosiac :)Mar 16 20:01
MinceRmosaic wasn't that goodMar 16 20:01
gde33measured how?Mar 16 20:01
gde33compared to dos it was like the second comming of cMar 16 20:02
gde33cristMar 16 20:02
MinceRkinky.Mar 16 20:02
cubezzzMosaic, I always spell that wrongMar 16 20:03
gde33the ego issue with open source devMar 16 20:04
gde33take for example: to design the perfect interface one should just make lots of different ones and play test themMar 16 20:04
cubezzzwell Mosaic was better than anything else up to that point in timeMar 16 20:04
gde33not doing that isn't going to produce better resultsMar 16 20:04
MinceRego is one of the driving forces behind free softwareMar 16 20:05
cubezzzpeople just like programmingMar 16 20:05
cubezzzmaking stuffMar 16 20:05
cubezzzit's normalMar 16 20:05
gde33people design an interface, telling them it can be better doesn't interest themMar 16 20:05
MinceRdepends on the peopleMar 16 20:05
gde33so you are stuck with the half working interfaceMar 16 20:06
gde33everyone is doing itMar 16 20:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3769825Mar 16 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: How much of #ukraine is #ukrainian.Mar 16 20:06
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schestowitz"Actually, there are some territories that belong to Romania on this map. Namely, the small southwest part, from the light blue area (called Bugeac - from the Danube to the Dniester) and a smaller part in the north of Romania (a fraction of Maramureș county and of northern Bucovina, including Cernăuți city) http://itravel.md/images/maps/Romania_mare_harta_administrativa_1930.png #romania #moldova #cernauti #bucovina #bukovine #Mar 16 20:06
schestowitzmaramures"Mar 16 20:06
gde33if you run that extra mile you get a kind of appication smoothness we only know from commecial softwareMar 16 20:07
MinceRpatches are often welcomeMar 16 20:07
MinceRand forks are allowedMar 16 20:07
MinceRlol, what smoothness we know from commercial software?Mar 16 20:07
MinceRwhat are you smoking?Mar 16 20:07
gde33thats not the problem, it is that the guy who designed the interface and coded it isn't interested in the idea to do it all over againMar 16 20:07
gde33if he is right about that I dunno, could it be better? of course it could.Mar 16 20:08
MinceRtry telling m$ that their ribbon and metro uis are unusableMar 16 20:08
cubezzzI had some ideasMar 16 20:08
MinceRor were those your examples of "smoothness"?Mar 16 20:08
gde33the commercial software doesn't have the full effectMar 16 20:09
cubezzzI thought you could have a ton of 2-char commands to do all the stuff you do the most oftenMar 16 20:09
gde33foss software could be much more slickMar 16 20:09
MinceRgde33: you can fork them and make them so.Mar 16 20:09
cubezzzyeah you can't always depend on the other guy doing itMar 16 20:09
gde33cubezzz: you are in no way limited to a qerty keyboard to opperate a computerMar 16 20:09
gde33just as long as the new keyboard instructions can be compiled to qwertyMar 16 20:10
cubezzzthat's 65536 combinationsMar 16 20:10
cubezzzmore than enough I'd say :)Mar 16 20:10
gde33maybe the chair should rotate along with the pointer to make the right interfaceMar 16 20:11
cubezzzgde33, I'm an APL user, so I'm already trans-QWERTYMar 16 20:11
cubezzz1960's era computers had additional keypads Mar 16 20:12
gde33c64 had these cool function keys on the rightMar 16 20:12
cubezzzit's not a new idea at allMar 16 20:12
gde33f1 f3 f5 f7Mar 16 20:13
cubezzzin fact, I might just look for a keypad to buyMar 16 20:13
gde33then could hold shift to get the even numbersMar 16 20:13
gde33one would move the applications/functions one would use most often up the menu treeMar 16 20:13
gde33a bit like phones and maps with foldersMar 16 20:14
gde33just with keysMar 16 20:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3769350Mar 16 20:15
gde33but you could learn to press those like morse codeMar 16 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Most laptops don't come with a physical switch with which to disable microphones; same goes for more and more phones wrt batteries.Mar 16 20:15
schestowitz"Just put a stereo plug in the mic socket with no cable....mic does not work !"Mar 16 20:15
schestowitz"Nice one, Nick"Mar 16 20:17
schestowitzThat would be good in preventing tablets/phones turning into listening devices, tooMar 16 20:18
gde33could make one for a hardrive that says "read only" Mar 16 20:21
cubezzzthere's WORM :)Mar 16 20:22
gde33not a bad idea to have laws forMar 16 20:23
gde33a user should have an option to physically switch his listening and recording devices ofMar 16 20:25
MinceRindeedMar 16 20:25
gde33what is to prevent me from equiping every house hold appliance with 360 HD camera view?Mar 16 20:25
gde33bit of always on mesh networking, or it refuses to make coffee/toastMar 16 20:26
cubezzzhey I have a joke...Mar 16 20:28
cubezzz"What happened to the Singularity?"Mar 16 20:29
cubezzzit's right over there.. next to strong AI and the flying car!Mar 16 20:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/09/17/deepwater-horizon-final-report-spares-microsoft/  http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/2014/2014_03_16-easy_microsoft_targets/  https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3770945Mar 16 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Deepwater Horizon Final Report Spares Microsoft | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/gv6n9 ]Mar 16 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-173.21.64.166 | Microsoft Target [ http://ur1.ca/gv6na ]Mar 16 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@willhill@joindiaspora.com: ### Business Week Covers Up for Microsoft In Target Hack and Misses the Big Story <img src="http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/2014/2014_03_16-easy_microsoft_targets/.llgal/thumb_logos.png"> Remember that epic hack at Target where every card used at every store was stolen for Thanksgiving and Christmas last year? That's probably the reason your bank sent you a new credit card and you had to churn through eveMar 16 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.businessweek.com | Target Missed Warnings in Epic Hack of Credit Card Data - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/gv6nd ]Mar 16 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mrpogson.com | Microsoft and Google Unite… Just this once | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gv6ne ]Mar 16 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tripwire.com | First Known Android Bootkit Infects Over 350,000 Devices | The State of Security [ http://ur1.ca/gv6nf ]Mar 16 20:30
MinceRwas there a fixed time frame for the singularity? :>Mar 16 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/01/new-clues-in-the-target-breach/">this )Mar 16 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworld.com | Target's point-of-sale terminals were infected with malware - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gv6ng ]Mar 16 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://173.21.64.166/photo_album/chron/2014/2014_03_16-easy_microsoft_targets/.llgal/thumb_logos.png">here</a )Mar 16 20:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3770482Mar 16 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Another reason to pay with cash: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-13/target-missed-alarms-in-epic-hack-of-credit-card-data#p1 #security and not just #privacyMar 16 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.businessweek.com | Target Missed Warnings in Epic Hack of Credit Card Data - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/gv6ho ]Mar 16 20:30
gde33the military lost interest when it refused to kill without reasonMar 16 20:30
schestowitz"Mar 16 20:30
schestowitzWrite up with image here and here.Mar 16 20:30
gde33turned out that reason was not the thing they was looking forMar 16 20:30
schestowitzI'm reminded of Microsoft's roll in the BP oil spill disaster and how most of the lamestream press and the final report never mentioned it. I'm growing more convinced that the US government has pushed Microsoft because Microsoft has always been a compliant spy partner and because of the outsized influence a few very wealthy people have over US policy.Mar 16 20:30
schestowitz"Mar 16 20:30
cubezzzthe 60's was so optimistic with the Apollo program and jetpacks Mar 16 20:31
cubezzzbut what did we get instead? Stupid point N grunt tabletsMar 16 20:32
cubezzzand the user interface really hasn't changed a lotMar 16 20:33
cubezzzit's just that more people have access to itMar 16 20:33
gde33it was educated out of the curiulumMar 16 20:36
gde33television is not just television, it is everything people know about the worldMar 16 20:36
cubezzzTelevision actually started off quite wellMar 16 20:41
cubezzzNBC had Vladimir Zworykin on explaining it's principle of operationMar 16 20:42
cubezzzthat was in the late 40'sMar 16 20:42
cubezzzof course, now it's pretty crappy :)Mar 16 20:42
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schestowitz"Mar 16 21:13
schestowitzWrite up with image here and here.Mar 16 21:13
schestowitzI'm reminded of Microsoft's roll in the BP oil spill disaster and how most of the lamestream press and the final report never mentioned it. I'm growing more convinced that the US government has pushed Microsoft because Microsoft has always been a compliant spy partner and because of the outsized influence a few very wealthy people have over US policy.Mar 16 21:13
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_GoblinIt would happen with any large corp....they've too much power to lose if they fall out of favour of governmentMar 16 21:15
_Goblinespecially when you consider all the juicy contracts that MS has with government.... "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine"Mar 16 21:15
cubezzzthat's a package you definitely don't want: Microsoft GovernmentMar 16 21:15
_GoblinI'd go as far to say that when a corporation reaches a certain size AND is entrenched in supplying government, it becomes an extention of government by proxyMar 16 21:15
_Goblinwho do they want to please? the customer.  Who is the customer? the government.Mar 16 21:15
_GoblinI'd more surprised if Microsoft didn't pander to the government....the same would go for Google.Mar 16 21:16
_Goblinremember: "The customer is always right"Mar 16 21:16
qu1j0t3cubezzz: we already have it, in effect.Mar 16 21:17
gde33why didn't it get sold and merged into some existing corp?Mar 16 21:17
cubezzzqu1j0t3, sadly that is true Mar 16 21:17
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_GoblinI don't know....look on the bright side......Mar 16 21:22
_GoblinI'll let you know when I've thought of a bright side.....Mar 16 21:22
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 16 23:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Popcorn Time Is Dead http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/14/popcorn-time-is-dead/ "Hollywood won. The open source project called Popcorn Time is dead"Mar 16 23:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com | Popcorn Time Is Dead | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gv7nt ]Mar 16 23:35
schestowitz"Surprising to anyone?"Mar 16 23:35
schestowitzThey did it beforeMar 16 23:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/445341900409929728Mar 16 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz Does it really come as a surprise? - Did anyone actually think that it stood even the remotest possibility of lasting?Mar 16 23:36
schestowitzEven p2p FOSS apps are under attach. Torrent has become synonymous with "piracy" thanks to corporate press.Mar 16 23:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/445342719146065920Mar 16 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@laurelrusswurm: @schestowitz Men who are not misogynists often don't notice the words and actions of those who are. Like bullying, it is often done slyly.Mar 16 23:37
schestowitzThat's a good pointMar 16 23:37
_Goblin"Even p2p FOSS apps are under attach. Torrent has become synonymous with "piracy" thanks to corporate press." - and thats why it shouldn't come as any surprise....Mar 16 23:38
_Goblinhell, even Usenet "trackers" are being targetted and their audience is far more limited than the popular P2P such as BTMar 16 23:39
schestowitzThat's a good pointMar 16 23:39
schestowitz"I wouldn't say dead though"Mar 16 23:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 16 23:40
_GoblinWhat happens though is this......the private trackers (in BT) just tighten up....the stuff gets leaked to the masses on trackers which go up and down....the masses still get their "warez" because for every court order to take down a proxy, in the time it takes to do that, hundreds more can appear....it will soon hit a point where it won't be worth doing....and thats when the trouble starts.Mar 16 23:42
_GoblinAnd here's the trouble....Mar 16 23:42
_GoblinThe copyright parasites say "We don't want to target the users, merely the uploaders - the big boys"....Mar 16 23:42
_Goblineveryone breaths a sigh of relief and thinks what nice people these copyright parasites are....Mar 16 23:43
schestowitzsame thingMar 16 23:43
_Goblinnext up, law gets adapted....(and this will happen)Mar 16 23:43
schestowitzin distribution it's a two-way streetMar 16 23:43
_Goblinto hold ISP's responsible for criminal copyright.Mar 16 23:43
schestowitzIt's like saying you'd only kill the AQ recuiters but you also kill the ones they brainwahMar 16 23:44
_GoblinAs soon as the ISP's are taking the blame for their customers, you'll find a more locked down netMar 16 23:44
schestowitzNo, you force them to censorMar 16 23:44
schestowitzCopyright, "extreme" content...Mar 16 23:44
schestowitzElse they face lawsuitsMar 16 23:44
schestowitzFor not bending overMar 16 23:44
_GoblinCensor.....whatever...the end result is withdrawl of services for the customer.Mar 16 23:44
schestowitzAll this stuff, copyright inc., is perfect coverup for Web censorshipMar 16 23:45
schestowitzAlongside child pr0n and tourrismMar 16 23:45
_GoblinI regard censorship as more to do with opinion/views rather than data of copyrighted material......I use the word prohibit or block for media etcMar 16 23:45
schestowitzyes, usenet access is now more limitedMar 16 23:45
_GoblinBut you are right....Mar 16 23:45
schestowitz!google theregister isp nntpMar 16 23:46
_Goblinits starts with copyright issues...moves on them to freedoms of speech, which to be fair are already gone...Mar 16 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Europe shrugs off largest DDoS attack yet, traffic tops 400Gbps ... | http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2014/02/11/europe_shrugs_off_largest_ddos_attack_yet_traffic_tops_400gbps/Mar 16 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Don't be a DDoS dummy: Patch your NTP servers ... - The Register | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/21/open_ntp_patching_project/Mar 16 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - New DoS attacks taking down game sites deliver crippling 100Gbps ... | http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/new-dos-attacks-taking-down-game-sites-deliver-crippling-100-gbps-floods/Mar 16 23:46
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Understanding and mitigating NTP-based DDoS attacks ... | http://blog.cloudflare.com/understanding-and-mitigating-ntp-based-ddos-attacksMar 16 23:46
schestowitz_Goblin: copyright used to block ideas tooMar 16 23:47
schestowitz!google oxford union assange copyright speechMar 16 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Collateral Censorship: Oxford Union Replaces Assange Speech ... | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130204/01405321873/collateral-censorship-oxford-union-replaces-assange-speech-backdrop-citing-copyright-concerns.shtmlMar 16 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Julian Assange speech that was censored by the Oxford Union ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dx1r7-ralebIMar 16 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Julian Assange's speech that was censored by the Oxford Union | http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/02/Julian-Assange-speech-censored-by-Oxford-Union.htmlMar 16 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Video: Assange speech on WikiLeaks film censored by Oxford Union | http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/343207%3Futm_source%3Ddlvr.it%26utm_medium%3DtwitterMar 16 23:47
_Goblinof course.Mar 16 23:47
schestowitz!google copyright wikileaks censorshipMar 16 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - WikiLeaks accuses Union of "censorship" - Cherwell - Oxford's ... | http://www.cherwell.org/news/world/2013/02/03/wikileaks-accuses-union-of-quotcensorshipquotMar 16 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - WikiLeaks publishes secret draft chapter of Trans-Pacific ... | http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/nov/13/wikileaks-trans-pacific-partnership-chapter-secretMar 16 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Index on Censorship | Tag Archive | wikileaks | http://www.indexoncensorship.org/tag/wikileaks/Mar 16 23:47
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - WIKILEAKS.INFO censored by eNom and Demand Media - WikiLeaks | http://wikileaks.org/wiki/WIKILEAKS.INFO_censored_by_eNom_and_Demand_MediaMar 16 23:47
_Goblinschestowitz, Funnily enough I had this conversation with my agent a few weeks back.....in regards to fan fictionMar 16 23:48
_GoblinI personally see it as a hell of a compliment and something to generate more interest in works.Mar 16 23:48
_GoblinI also see the "piracy" of work to be a benefit......infact I spoke with an author who sold a few hundred copies of their books.....they then made their first book free and after that their sales went into the hundreds of thousands.Mar 16 23:49
_GoblinVery shrewd move by their publisherMar 16 23:50
_GoblinI think "piracy" highlights the rubbish and thats why its seen as an enemy..... Harry Potter was pirated to hogwarts and back, but broke box office records because it was decent....the piracy merely assisted the promotion in my view.Mar 16 23:51
_Goblinif you release something awful, piracy highlights that and people are not duped into parting with money.Mar 16 23:51
schestowitzyes, it's pricing and availability strategyMar 16 23:55
schestowitzMS calls it "vouchers"Mar 16 23:56
schestowitzor "donation"Mar 16 23:56
schestowitzrather than "piracy"Mar 16 23:56
schestowitzSimilar effectMar 16 23:56
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 17 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Popcorn Time Is Dead http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/14/popcorn-time-is-dead/ "Hollywood won. The open source project called Popcorn Time is dead"Mar 17 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com | Popcorn Time Is Dead | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gv7nt ]Mar 17 00:06
schestowitz"#whackamole"Mar 17 00:06
_GoblinI think any project which has any impact on hollywood is doomed for failure....unless of course it brings in visible immediate cash to them.....the idea that something "free" could be of benefit would be entirely alien to them.Mar 17 00:12
_Goblinits like trying to convince a dog to stop biting at iritated skin....Mar 17 00:13
cubezzzwell there's always books :)Mar 17 00:17
cubezzzbut 'The Clock' (1945) wasn't a bad movieMar 17 00:18
cubezzza counter example would be 'Primer'Mar 17 00:25
cubezzzdefinitely not Hollywood, but still somewhat of a successMar 17 00:25
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DaemonFChttp://tihe.us/install-google-play-store-and-launcher-for-nokia-x-rooted/Mar 17 01:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tihe.us | Install Google Play Store and Launcher for Nokia X Rooted | High-End News [ http://ur1.ca/gv85z ]Mar 17 01:15
DaemonFCApparently, you can root the Nokia X and install Google Play.Mar 17 01:15
DaemonFCOf course, there's that little problem that it's not actually legal to do that.Mar 17 01:16
DaemonFC:)Mar 17 01:16
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 17 01:34
schestowitz__"inb4 http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/16/popcorn-time-is-back/ "Mar 17 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | Popcorn Time Is Back | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gv892 ]Mar 17 01:34
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schestowitz__https://www.devex.com/news/is-gates-foundation-monopolizing-vaccine-research-68075Mar 17 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.devex.com | International Development News | Is Gates Foundation Monopolizing Vaccine Research? [ http://ur1.ca/gvag9 ]Mar 17 06:05
schestowitz__"There may be conflict of interest in several initiatives undertaken by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, especially in its pursuit of malaria vaccine research, Roy Schestowitz writes in the Techrights blog."Mar 17 06:05
schestowitz__I never noticed this article before.Mar 17 06:05
cubezzzdoes Gates try to monopolize? Of course he doesMar 17 06:08
cubezzzthat is his raison de vivre :)Mar 17 06:09
schestowitz__http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/03/don-quijones-round-two-global-financial-sectors-takeover-spain.htmlMar 17 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nakedcapitalism.com | Don Quijones: Round Two Of The Global Financial Sector’s Takeover Of Spain | naked capitalism [ http://ur1.ca/gvawc ]Mar 17 07:59
schestowitz__"Now, with the dust settling from its construction blow-out, Spain is laying out the red carpet for the wingless vultures of Wall Street and the City – vultures like Paul Singer, whose Cayman-registered fund Elliot Management Corporation last year tried its damnedest to trigger a default in Argentina, and is now looking to asset-strip two Galician savings banks."Mar 17 08:00
schestowitz__http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-vampire-squid-strikes-again-the-mega-banks-most-devious-scam-yet-20140212Mar 17 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | The Vampire Squid Strikes Again: The Mega Banks' Most Devious Scam Yet | Politics News | Rolling Stone [ http://ur1.ca/gvawv ]Mar 17 08:00
schestowitz__http://www.euromoney.com/Article/3309317/New-details-emerge-of-Libyas-claim-against-Goldman-Sachs.htmlMar 17 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.euromoney.com | New details emerge of Libya's claim against Goldman Sachs /Euromoney magazine [ http://ur1.ca/gvawy ]Mar 17 08:01
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schestowitz__Sosumi: http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/03/vanishing-plane/Mar 17 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Vanishing Plane [ http://ur1.ca/gvb3w ]Mar 17 08:34
schestowitz__he says exactly what I didMar 17 08:34
schestowitz__"What on earth is the interest of the media in propagating this absolute guff?  South East Asia is highly militarized.  Radar is hardly cutting edge technology.  The idea that a very large plane could overfly China, India or Pakistan without anybody being alerted is an absolute nonsense.  Other countries in the region, such as Burma, Indonesia and the ex-Soviet countries, also have effective airspace surveillance.'Mar 17 08:34
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_GoblinUnless I'm mistaken, isn't there a issue with airtraffic under 200 ft? - Or something like that? it can't be picked up?Mar 17 09:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Distro’s, FOSS and the advocates behindMar 17 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 them – Some food for thought?Mar 17 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8Y4SeqAHg5Mar 17 09:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     UK, Israel sign agreement on open standards,Mar 17 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 open source http://t.co/WF02Ylb9cPMar 17 09:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gvbdtMar 17 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Distro’s, FOSS and the advocates behind them – Some food for thought? | Tux MachinesMar 17 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UK, Israel sign agreement on open standards, open source | Tux MachinesMar 17 09:37
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gde33to big to flushMar 17 10:50
_Goblinuse a shovel then to soften it up and flush again.Mar 17 11:47
Sosumischestowitz__, I reiterate what I saidMar 17 12:05
Sosumijust ask the intelligence services :)Mar 17 12:05
MinceRgeekingsMar 17 12:06
Sosumiyepi ki yay MinceRMar 17 12:06
MinceRho ho hoMar 17 12:07
Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/17/haunted-empire/Mar 17 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | 'Haunted Empire' Profiles Apple After Steve Jobs as a Company on the Decline - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gvc8r ]Mar 17 12:08
SosumiI had said thatMar 17 12:08
Sosumiand someone now seems to agreeMar 17 12:08
MinceRi've said something similar tooMar 17 12:09
Sosumiwith things like the buttplug pro and the stagnation of iphone OS being two major thingsMar 17 12:10
Sosumias well losing the core markets that have kept crapple alive during the dark daysMar 17 12:10
Sosumiof the pepsi god sculleyMar 17 12:10
Sosumiwell, and not even osx is better than windows anymoreMar 17 12:15
Sosumieven at things like memory managementMar 17 12:15
MinceRafaict it never wasMar 17 12:15
MinceRat least winblows could maximize windows and focus ui widgets via keyboardMar 17 12:16
SosumiI was going to mention how xp sp2 managed to outdo osxMar 17 12:16
Sosumiprevious xp were actually badMar 17 12:16
Sosumieven games, like World of warcraft and ut2k4 would perform better on osxMar 17 12:17
Sosumicrapple did try to get the inner workings in shape with 10.6 back in 2009Mar 17 12:18
Sosumibut then screwed everythingMar 17 12:18
MinceRwas there something they did not screw?Mar 17 12:18
SosumiI don't knowMar 17 12:19
SosumiI was satisfied with tiger and leopardMar 17 12:19
Sosumibut then after snow leopard the direction simply changedMar 17 12:20
Sosumiwith lackluster service packs and then lion came inMar 17 12:20
Sosumiwhich screwed everythingMar 17 12:21
Sosumibasically, lion was just snow leopard with facebook and twitter integrationMar 17 12:21
Sosumiand idiot proofing aquaMar 17 12:21
Sosumiby removing functionalityMar 17 12:22
MinceRthere was functionality that could be removed?Mar 17 12:23
MinceRi thought they were idiot-oriented continuously since the first macintoyMar 17 12:23
Sosumithe current OS can't even go more than 17 days just running virtual machines without displaying erratic behaviourMar 17 12:23
Sosumirequiring you to restartMar 17 12:24
Sosumiyes the first macintoshMar 17 12:24
Sosumibut we're talking about the OS that apple aquired because they couldn't develop their ownMar 17 12:24
Sosumiaka nextstepMar 17 12:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The past year for Joomla! FrameworkMar 17 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/DQWgyA59I1Mar 17 12:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Time Warner’s Live Chat Doesn’t Speak LinuxMar 17 12:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gRCKiSurmXMar 17 12:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Popcorn Time Is Back http://t.co/OeP9tmdDq1Mar 17 12:25
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MinceRnext couldn't develop their own eitherMar 17 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The past year for Joomla! Framework | Tux MachinesMar 17 12:25
Sosumi:)Mar 17 12:25
MinceRthey ripped off mach and freebsd and shat all over itMar 17 12:25
SosumiyeahMar 17 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Time Warner’s Live Chat Doesn’t Speak Linux | Tux MachinesMar 17 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Popcorn Time Is Back | Tux MachinesMar 17 12:25
Sosumiconsider just this, the whole point to get a mac beforeMar 17 12:26
Sosumiwas because xp was crapMar 17 12:26
Sosumiand you could get a unix like system that could run all popular softwareMar 17 12:26
MinceRor you could just install gnu/linuxMar 17 12:26
MinceRand get a really unix-like systemMar 17 12:26
MinceRwithout a dumbed-down uiMar 17 12:27
Sosumiyes, but hey, I was like 13 or 14 around thenMar 17 12:27
Sosumiand didn't know what were the equivalents for gnu/linuxMar 17 12:28
Sosumimost of my idea of gnu/linux back then was just for deployment on servers or compute nodesMar 17 12:28
Sosumileaving osx as the only unix like OS that could run almost everyhting windows didMar 17 12:29
Sosumiconsidering all that, the ride was okMar 17 12:31
Sosumiand perhaps my bias with osx now is probably because my needs outgrew its capacity to deliverMar 17 12:31
Sosumiwhich at this moment it just doesn'tMar 17 12:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     App folder configuration http://t.co/raN1UCj0JCMar 17 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | App folder configuration | Tux MachinesMar 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Overview of Kate Editor in KDE 4.12.3Mar 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rrIfDLvrOwMar 17 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Overview of Kate Editor in KDE 4.12.3 | Tux MachinesMar 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crew assembles three open source vehicles overMar 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 lunch http://t.co/75vQQhozWKMar 17 13:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crew assembles three open source vehicles over lunch | Tux MachinesMar 17 13:03
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Sosumihttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-17/obama-issues-executive-order-freezing-assets-seven-putin-aidesMar 17 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Obama Issues Executive Order Freezing Assets Of Seven Putin Aides | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gvcvd ]Mar 17 14:02
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Sosumihttp://enenews.com/record-cesium-levels-detected-ocean-fukushima-plant-spikes-6900-bqliter-detected-day-beforeMar 17 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enenews.com | Record cesium levels in Pacific Ocean north of Fukushima plant — Spikes to 6,900 Bq/m³ from ‘not detected’ in one day — Previous high went unmatched for last 9 months [ http://ur1.ca/gvdg4 ]Mar 17 15:35
Sosumiis spongebob glowing already?Mar 17 15:36
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3773421Mar 17 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Stallman Accepts #Twitter http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/03/16/stallman-accepts-twitter/Mar 17 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Stallman Accepts Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gve2a ]Mar 17 17:08
schestowitz__"Please use #NSFW"Mar 17 17:08
schestowitz__Why?Mar 17 17:09
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3773527Mar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #billgates still a hero in his own mind http://dailygadgetry.com/bill-gates-thinks-snowden-is-no-hero-for-leaking-nsa-documents/3284 committing crimes himself, then needing #nsa for his protectionMar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dailygadgetry.com | Bill Gates Thinks Snowden is no Hero for Leaking NSA Documents – Daily Gadgetry [ http://ur1.ca/gve2j ]Mar 17 17:10
schestowitz__"Ho well this it is amazing :D"Mar 17 17:10
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Popcorn Time Is Dead http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/14/popcorn-time-is-dead/ "Hollywood won. The open source project called Popcorn Time is dead"Mar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com | Popcorn Time Is Dead | TechCrunch [ http://ur1.ca/gv7nt ]Mar 17 17:10
schestowitz__https#whatisaid://joindiaspora.com/posts/3772128Mar 17 17:10
schestowitz__"#whatisaid"Mar 17 17:10
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3769825Mar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: How much of #ukraine is #ukrainian.Mar 17 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by rocapc@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_9826b78f2a6bc1ce8d03.jpgMar 17 17:10
schestowitz__"Yes, the map doesn't really mean anything on its own. It's just a snapshot of a particular point in history of territory that has changed hands many many times."Mar 17 17:11
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3774211Mar 17 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ow can any news network maintain credibility when ads get embedded in stories, people who write have a favoured (by publisher) agenda?Mar 17 17:11
schestowitz__1Hard to believe "cow" is not a part of this post."Mar 17 17:11
schestowitz__Firefox for Android sucks :-)Mar 17 17:11
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3774256Mar 17 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK media today is not even trying to give pro-Russia crowd a voiceMar 17 17:12
schestowitz__"Why would they need a voice , mother russia gave rhem guns ?"Mar 17 17:12
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3775277Mar 17 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #firefox for #android still buggy enough in some places to really drive the user nuts. Also, #privacy not enabled by default. #mozillaMar 17 17:12
schestowitz__""still buggy enough in some places" is a nice word for "fucking crap" ;)"Mar 17 17:12
schestowitz__textbox editing is messed up in very bad waysMar 17 17:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source project builds mobile networksMar 17 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 without big carriers http://t.co/KALLcWVT5yMar 17 17:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What’s New In Python 3.4 http://t.co/tPOW0fqHzDMar 17 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source project builds mobile networks without big carriers | Tux MachinesMar 17 17:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What’s New In Python 3.4 | Tux MachinesMar 17 17:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inside Linux Lite - An interview with JerryMar 17 17:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Bezencon http://t.co/QY3fJETHH4Mar 17 17:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Inside Linux Lite - An interview with Jerry Bezencon | Tux MachinesMar 17 17:24
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Sosumihttp://enenews.com/video-company-that-runs-wipp-reveals-plume-of-radiation-spread-to-population-center-says-its-like-licking-your-iphone-charger-mother-they-dont-want-the-people-to-perhaps-knowMar 17 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enenews.com | Video: Company that runs WIPP reveals plume of radiation spread to population center — Compares it to “licking your iPhone charger” — Mother: “They don’t want the people to perhaps know the extent of what went wrong” [ http://ur1.ca/gvejy ]Mar 17 18:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat's Stubbornness Will Keep OpenShiftMar 17 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Alive http://t.co/58Ux7vspAgMar 17 18:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gvekbMar 17 18:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel Developer Panel Preview:Mar 17 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Introductions and ProjectsMar 17 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Wp2RsugK4fMar 17 18:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat's Stubbornness Will Keep OpenShift Alive | Tux MachinesMar 17 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Developer Panel Preview: Introductions and Projects | Tux MachinesMar 17 18:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.14-rc7 http://t.co/vsUREfIA1xMar 17 19:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     This Week Is GDC: Great News For Linux GamersMar 17 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/k4qAWrNhsTMar 17 19:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Weston Gets Tailored For Tizen IVI, Car MakersMar 17 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Fond Of Wayland http://t.co/h9vYwROGIfMar 17 19:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 3.14-rc7 | Tux MachinesMar 17 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Week Is GDC: Great News For Linux Gamers | Tux MachinesMar 17 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Weston Gets Tailored For Tizen IVI, Car Makers Fond Of Wayland | Tux MachinesMar 17 19:23
Sosumiand just got another propaganda mail from nvidiaMar 17 19:36
Sosumithis time about gameworksMar 17 19:36
Sosumiwhich has no version for gnu/linuxMar 17 19:36
Sosumiand it is all integrated into visual studioMar 17 19:36
Sosumihow awesome, notMar 17 19:37
Sosumiand so much for bringing gaming to gnu/linuxMar 17 19:57
Sosumiwhen their particles toolbox, phys?Mar 17 19:58
Sosumiis windows onlyMar 17 19:58
Sosumiwith limited support at least for previous generation consolesMar 17 19:58
Sosumisince that remounts the time when nvidia bought ageiaMar 17 19:58
Sosumi*boughtMar 17 19:59
Sosumiwhich made a "physics" accelerator cardMar 17 19:59
Sosumiwhich nvidia killed and re-introduced the functionality when they launched the 8800gt cards and cudaMar 17 20:00
cubezzznvidia engineering isn't that greatMar 17 20:03
cubezzzaside from software issues, they get really hotMar 17 20:03
cubezzzI don't want a video card running at 80C+ :)Mar 17 20:14
Sosumiamd's runner hotterMar 17 20:25
Sosumi*runMar 17 20:26
Sosumiand their eng is much worseMar 17 20:26
cubezzzthis box has intel 810Mar 17 20:34
cubezzz:)Mar 17 20:35
cubezzzthe other box is R300 CPU, it's 2002 eraMar 17 20:37
cubezzzbefore ATI went defunctMar 17 20:37
Sosumijust out of curiosityMar 17 20:39
Sosumiwhat display are you sing?Mar 17 20:39
Sosumi*usingMar 17 20:39
cubezzzon this computer it's an Acer LCDMar 17 20:40
Sosumiso, no green phosphorous crtMar 17 20:40
Sosumi:PMar 17 20:40
cubezzzeven in 1985 I was running colour :)Mar 17 20:41
cubezzzthat monitor still works too, made by ToshibaMar 17 20:41
cubezzzLongevity is important to meMar 17 20:42
cubezzzonly time will tell how long the LCD lastsMar 17 20:47
Sosumiusually 30k hoursMar 17 20:47
Sosumiunless it is led backlitMar 17 20:48
cubezzzhow long do you figure in terms of years, assuming normal use?Mar 17 20:48
Sosumiwell ofcMar 17 20:48
Sosumiburn timeMar 17 20:48
cubezzzsay average of 10 hours per day, 365 days a yearMar 17 20:49
cubezzzthat would be about 8 years then?Mar 17 20:49
cubezzzof course the Toshiba doesn't get used that much nowMar 17 20:50
Sosumi10*365=3650Mar 17 20:50
cubezzzprobably more like a few hours per month of classic computingMar 17 20:50
*amarsh04 runs a radeon 9200se in this machineMar 17 20:50
Sosumi3650*8=29200Mar 17 20:51
Sosumiwith that kind of usage, aprox 8 yearsMar 17 20:51
Sosumicrt age differentlyMar 17 20:51
cubezzzit's an AL1715 and I forget when I got itMar 17 20:52
Sosumiand has to do with the reactive coat at the bottom of the bottleMar 17 20:52
Sosumiso as the phosphorous wears out so does the screen lose brightnessMar 17 20:52
Sosumiif it isn't something else that goes gagaMar 17 20:53
Sosumiand the display starts displaying a green or purple tintMar 17 20:53
Sosumilike my last crt didMar 17 20:53
cubezzzstill working since 1985 isn't too shabbyMar 17 20:53
Sosumiwho's the manufacturer of the display itself?Mar 17 20:54
Sosumireally toshibaMar 17 20:54
cubezzzyes, ToshibaMar 17 20:54
Sosumior just a sony or samsung rebrandMar 17 20:54
cubezzzI opened it up and looked at the boards Mar 17 20:54
cubezzzAmiga 1080Mar 17 20:55
cubezzzthis Acer has to be at least 10 years (I think)Mar 17 20:58
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SosumikewlMar 17 21:01
Sosumibut you only really notice the brightness decreases if you're doing color accuracy workMar 17 21:01
Sosumior do measurements with a colorimeterMar 17 21:02
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SosumiI for example still have an old 20 inches ips display with a ccfl backlight from 2004Mar 17 21:03
Sosumiand when it finally saw some rest in 2009, it did no longer have the same brightness outputMar 17 21:04
Sosumiand the same I can say for my current displayMar 17 21:05
Sosumithat even with the same panels and being of the exact same revisionMar 17 21:06
Sosumitheir brightness outputs are different at the same lvlMar 17 21:06
Sosumiwith one display having 16227 hours of use and the other 14087Mar 17 21:07
cubezzzhow is it you know the hours so accurately? Mar 17 21:07
Sosumithe displays in question are hp lp2475wMar 17 21:08
Sosumibecause these are professional displaysMar 17 21:08
Sosumiand you need to factor burn in when calibratingMar 17 21:08
Sosumiso, it says the hours of use on the osdMar 17 21:09
cubezzzinterestingMar 17 21:09
Sosuminot that I really need much of color accuracy, but at least my eyes don't feel as tired at the end of the dayMar 17 21:10
Sosumithan when they feel when using crappy TN panels or having to look at over saturated colorsMar 17 21:11
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Sosumihttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-17/putin-strikes-back-russias-sanctions-list-said-include-us-senators-high-ranking-admiMar 17 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Putin Strikes Back: Russia's Sanctions List Said To Include US Senators, High Ranking Administration Officials | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/gvfmy ]Mar 17 21:20
Sosumicouldn't they fix it on the ring?Mar 17 21:20
Sosumia re-enactment of Ivan Drago vs Rocky BalboaMar 17 21:21
SosumiPutin vs ObomberMar 17 21:21
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SosumignMar 17 21:47
MinceRo/Mar 17 21:49
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DaemonFCshared a link.Mar 17 22:40
DaemonFC2 minutes ago · EditedMar 17 22:40
DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/17/1285450/-CNN-asks-whether-maybe-God-stole-Flight-370Mar 17 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailykos.com | CNN asks whether maybe God stole Flight 370 [ http://ur1.ca/gvg31 ]Mar 17 22:40
DaemonFCLOLWUT!?Mar 17 22:40
DaemonFCI'm not saying it was aliens, but I think it was aliens. Maybe if we use our phasers and photon torpedoes next time, it will stop them...Mar 17 22:40
_GoblinWell since God isn't human, wasn't born on this planet I suppose if you believe in him then he is an alien.Mar 17 22:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung Opens Up Gear 2 And Gear 2 Neo ToMar 18 00:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Developers With Release Of The Tizen SDK ForMar 18 00:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Wearables http://t.co/v0fEiHaox7Mar 18 00:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/nvds3IKC1cMar 18 00:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Games http://t.co/tlkzV4nHF9Mar 18 00:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/db9Z0b0PADMar 18 00:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel News - January and February 2014Mar 18 00:02
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cubezzzold but worth a look:Mar 18 00:19
cubezzzhttp://slated.org/more_microsoft_dirty_tricks_historyMar 18 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-slated.org | More Microsoft Dirty Tricks History | Slated [ http://ur1.ca/gvgq9 ]Mar 18 00:19
_GoblinMicrosoft dirty tricks? I don't believe it......Mar 18 00:19
cubezzz_more_ microsoft dirty tricks, sort of DT 2.0 :)Mar 18 00:20
_Goblin:)Mar 18 00:20
_GoblinIs there any trick of Microsoft that is anything but dirty?Mar 18 00:20
cubezzzI can't think of any since the original Microsoft BASIC was the product of dumpster diving and stolen PDP-10 computer timeMar 18 00:21
cubezzzI've got commented source for a lot of OSesMar 18 00:23
cubezzzold IBM mainframe stuff, lots of Unix, Haiku, FreeDOS, DEC RT-11 evenMar 18 00:24
cubezzzbut commented Microsoft OS code... nothingMar 18 00:24
cubezzzwhat about Singularity you may ask... well not really openMar 18 00:30
cubezzzShared SourceMar 18 00:30
_GoblinDid you see RMS and his views on Twitter?Mar 18 00:33
cubezzznoMar 18 00:33
_GoblinIts one of Roy's video interviewsMar 18 00:34
_Goblinvery interesting, only about a minute long...Mar 18 00:34
_GoblinRoy did well with that one..... I don't think there's much RMS gives a thumbs up to, so when he does its worth listening.Mar 18 00:35
cubezzzlink?Mar 18 00:35
_Gobliner...standbyMar 18 00:35
_Goblinhttp://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/03/16/stallman-accepts-twitter/Mar 18 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Stallman Accepts Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/gve2a ]Mar 18 00:36
cubezzzhuh, didn't think Stallman would like twitterMar 18 00:36
_Goblinyes...welllMar 18 00:37
cubezzzthanks for the linkMar 18 00:37
_Goblinits ok if you use an opensource client.Mar 18 00:37
_Goblinso I take it Facebook gets his thumbs up because there's many open source clients for that.... Bloo-Too is one.Mar 18 00:37
_GoblinMust admit it surprised me.....of all things, Twitter was not what I expected him to approve of.Mar 18 00:38
_Goblinhe's against G+ because it demands real names.....that might be the case but I've always used a fake (and often very silly one)Mar 18 00:39
cubezzzuser land is basically fairly well offMar 18 00:39
_Goblinwhat I don't get is that he doesn't want to give his real name to G+, but presumably he had to give his name onto a database when he flew to the UK.....Mar 18 00:39
cubezzzhe's famous for goodness sakes :)Mar 18 00:40
cubezzzat least in certain circlesMar 18 00:40
_GoblinHis real name would have been demanded at the airport....they get a bit funny if you refuse.Mar 18 00:40
cubezzzI'm more worried about this: http://www.maxhost.org/other/secure-boot.txtMar 18 00:41
_Goblinyes....its not made simple is it.Mar 18 00:41
_Goblinbut then are we not seeing the decline of the desktop to everyone but those already in the know?Mar 18 00:42
cubezzzwell I haven't really got hit by this yet myself, but other people have told me their experiences with itMar 18 00:42
_Goblini'd say its damage is limited now since the mainstream are off with tablets and such like...Mar 18 00:42
cubezzzI'm not the best person to ask about smartphone and tablet stuffMar 18 00:42
cubezzzI never use either Mar 18 00:42
_GoblinI must admit to preferring my desktop for 99% of productive stuff.Mar 18 00:43
_Goblinand I can't fathom touch keyboards and predictive text.Mar 18 00:43
cubezzzI use APL, so :)Mar 18 00:44
cubezzzjust imagine that on a tablet :)Mar 18 00:44
_GoblinI'll tell you what I found out the other day....I can plug a usb keyboard straight into the PS3.......Mar 18 00:44
_Goblinnever knewMar 18 00:44
_Goblinnot that I used it much except for the odd game.Mar 18 00:45
cubezzzyes, some folks were running Linux on PS3 yes?Mar 18 00:45
_Goblinyeah the old modelsMar 18 00:45
cubezzznever tried that myselfMar 18 00:45
_GoblinI think one of the updates years ago scuppered that featureMar 18 00:45
cubezzzI think there's a much less percentage of computer users now who are programmersMar 18 00:45
cubezzzso my view is really a minority viewMar 18 00:46
_Goblinyes and no.... I think there are more programmers but fewer that can actually codeMar 18 00:46
_Goblineveryone is giving it a go and with all the high level languages about people think after their first "hello world" program that they are l33t coders.Mar 18 00:47
_GoblinMy coding days left me after the amiga.......Mar 18 00:47
_Goblinaround 1990 I thinkMar 18 00:48
cubezzzthe jump from programming c64 to amiga was pretty bigMar 18 00:48
_Goblinbut then we had 720k to play with and standardized hardware to code for so it was a much simpler task.Mar 18 00:48
cubezzzthat's trueMar 18 00:48
_GoblinI got on well with 68k..... used Devpac 2 and Argasm......preferred Devpac thoughMar 18 00:49
cubezzzthe learning curve is definitely steeper nowMar 18 00:49
_Goblinor shallower if you look at all the premade libraries, bindings etcMar 18 00:49
cubezzzno forays into xlib or device drivers? :)Mar 18 00:49
_Goblinpygame for example.....Mar 18 00:49
cubezzzI think netbsd runs on some AmigasMar 18 00:50
_GoblinI think the problem with todays coder and all the dev tools is that people know how to code something but don't understand why it works.Mar 18 00:50
_Goblinand its the understanding which hampers originality and creativity.Mar 18 00:51
cubezzzthat's been the case for a long timeMar 18 00:51
_Goblinon the Amiga except for Dpaint, there was nothing to assist at all.Mar 18 00:51
_Goblinand a paint package doesn't really count.Mar 18 00:51
cubezzzone needs to go back to discrete components, pre-Microprocessor era, to really understand what's going onMar 18 00:51
_Goblinexactly...Mar 18 00:52
_Goblinand it was that understanding that created coders like David Braben and his amazing Elite game.Mar 18 00:52
_Goblinthat level of skill is lost on this generation.Mar 18 00:52
_Goblinand in making things simpler and handing things on a plate, many coders are ignorant and lazyMar 18 00:52
abeNd-orgwho needs skill when you have basically click & drag programming & 8gigs of ram?Mar 18 00:53
_Goblinexactly...Mar 18 00:53
_Goblinuntil someone wants a variation on that feature and you find you have no clue how to do anything other than what is provided to you.Mar 18 00:53
cubezzzsomeone still has to program the DDX driver :)Mar 18 00:53
_Goblinand they are the minority serving the majorityMar 18 00:54
_Goblinin the days of the amiga, you did it yourself or not at all.Mar 18 00:54
_Goblinand you had more coders, who actually understood what was happening under the hood.Mar 18 00:54
cubezzzI think there were a few compiled C and Basic games for AmigaMar 18 00:54
abeNd-orgnot too many programmers out there like steve gibson anymoreMar 18 00:54
_Goblinand don't forget AMOSMar 18 00:54
_Goblinor as we called it LAMEOSMar 18 00:54
_GoblinScrolltext x,y,speed "This is a fancy scrolltext in a bitmap font"......Mar 18 00:55
_Goblinthats what LAMOS provided....Mar 18 00:55
cubezzzdo you still use your amiga?Mar 18 00:56
_Goblinand sort of highlights the point, everyone could then use one line to make a scroll text.....ask those people to get the scroll text to follow a sine wave instead of a straight path and they are lost.Mar 18 00:56
cubezzzI fire mine up a couple of times per month :)Mar 18 00:56
_Goblinnot really....Mar 18 00:56
_Goblinuse the emulators a little...Mar 18 00:56
_Goblinlook at some of my old crews works....Mar 18 00:57
_Goblinnostalgia .....Mar 18 00:57
_GoblinI remember when Fairlight (or arch enemies at the time) took Operation Wolf (the game) and reduced it from three disks to 1 on their release......we were mad....Mar 18 00:58
_Goblinand I remember stuffing up Shadow of the Beast before it hit Dawnraid BBS.....that was embarassing...Mar 18 00:58
cubezzzI actually bought some amiga gamesMar 18 00:59
cubezzzthat era seemed to go by very fastMar 18 01:01
cubezzzI've been programming xlib and motif for over 10 years nowMar 18 01:04
cubezzzAmiga era for me was like 1987 to 1992Mar 18 01:04
cubezzzbut learning device dependent X is pretty hardMar 18 01:06
cubezzzyou have to be pretty dedicated learning all that stuffMar 18 01:06
cubezzzyou should give xlib a try though, it's not too hard to pick upMar 18 01:08
_Goblinyouth.....its a long time ago, couldn't do it now.Mar 18 01:18
_GoblinI just wrote silly little intro's....that sort of thing.Mar 18 01:18
_Goblinthe big players in the demoscene were Cryonics, RSI et alMar 18 01:19
DaemonFCI wish they'd bring back 85 octane gas.Mar 18 02:06
DaemonFCWhatever happened to that? I used to run my car on it all the time with no knocks or pings.Mar 18 02:07
DaemonFC5 cents per gallon cheaperMar 18 02:07
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DaemonFChttps://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1795600_784255024918811_690145953_n.jpgMar 18 03:19
DaemonFCIn 1970, $12,000 ($72,345.15 in 2014 dollars) was middle class.Mar 18 03:22
DaemonFCIn 2014, it's about what most people make if they work at Walmart. In 2014 dollars.Mar 18 03:22
DaemonFCIt's clear that Walmart employees need to stop complaining and break into the Scientology Center in Clearwater Florida, and steal the time machine, being careful at all times not to fall into the bottomless pit, so that they can go back 44 years to when their Walmart wages bought something.Mar 18 03:22
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DaemonFChttp://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/2013/04/05/epa-will-increase-gasoline-prices-and-reduce-fuel-economy-in-bid-to-further-reduce-sulfur-in-gasoline/Mar 18 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.instituteforenergyresearch.org | EPA’s Tier 3 Will Increase Gasoline Prices and Reduce Fuel Economy | Institute for Energy Research [ http://ur1.ca/gvht0 ]Mar 18 03:45
DaemonFCSo, what the hell....Mar 18 03:46
DaemonFCAs far as I can tell, this E15 and Tier 3 gas will ruin your engine, cost 10 cents per gallon more, and reduce your fuel mileage.Mar 18 03:46
DaemonFCThe tier 2 standard might have already reduced fuel mileage by up to 6%.Mar 18 03:46
DaemonFC(because sulfur lubricates the engine)Mar 18 03:46
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Mar 18 04:45
DaemonFCOf course, you know, it's Walmart steak.Mar 18 04:45
DaemonFCI have a theory that the process for making it involves recycling tires.Mar 18 04:45
DaemonFCNow you know why Walmart shoppers are missing some teeth. Mar 18 04:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged touchpanel PC runs Android on TI Sitara.Mar 18 08:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/54krukF0omMar 18 08:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged touchpanel PC runs Android on TI Sitara. | Tux MachinesMar 18 08:34
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MinceRhttp://abstrusegoose.com/560Mar 18 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abstrusegoose.com | Abstruse Goose | Guitar Code HeroMar 18 10:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     kdevelop-python for Python 3: first stableMar 18 10:58
TweetTuxMachines                 version (1.6.0) released!Mar 18 10:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pQf1rUR5hjMar 18 10:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Geeksphone’s Revolution to offer Ubuntu Touch:Mar 18 10:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Report http://t.co/JP8q76xrP3Mar 18 10:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | kdevelop-python for Python 3: first stable version (1.6.0) released! | Tux MachinesMar 18 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Geeksphone’s Revolution to offer Ubuntu Touch: Report | Tux MachinesMar 18 10:58
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/445875560787755008Mar 18 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz I'm in IRC, I'll see if I can sort something. I've got a meeting/lunch for work, but after that....Mar 18 10:58
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/_Goblin/status/445875977579941888Mar 18 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_Goblin: @schestowitz I find myself "dismissing" all the promoted posts - utter rubbish and a worrying direction for Twitter.Mar 18 10:59
schestowitz___Goblin: what time then?Mar 18 10:59
schestowitz__I need to check that old handset againMar 18 10:59
schestowitz__I lost track ofthe whole process, switching off phones and stuffMar 18 10:59
Sosumiso crimea is now part of the russian federationMar 18 11:12
SosumiofficiallyMar 18 11:12
_Goblinschestowitz__, I'll be back after my lunch and I'll arrange something then...I'll still be on twiter on my phone but I'll be out of IRCMar 18 11:12
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/445862531035570176  https://twitter.com/nilsgeylen/status/445879534030966784 Mar 18 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Has #google yet automatically gone as far as automatic face recognition in automatically-uploaded photos (Facebook)? #datagrab #surveillanceMar 18 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nilsgeylen: @schestowitz Probably but not as a public feature?Mar 18 11:13
schestowitz__I remember reading about Google and #facerec (perhaps Google Labs experiment or a startup acquisition), but not much moreMar 18 11:13
schestowitz__cool, I'll wait aroundMar 18 11:13
_Goblinit will be after about 2ishMar 18 11:17
Sosumiand say that apple and ms aren't a duopolyMar 18 11:19
Sosumifreshly released OneNote programMar 18 11:19
Sosumiis labeled as editor«s choice on the osx app storeMar 18 11:19
schestowitz___Goblin: do you have recording s/w?Mar 18 11:27
schestowitz__I might need to use and install some new s/w, it's a ;aptop that I'm on now, the desktop is not reliable. Anyway, we'll talk about it laterMar 18 11:28
_GoblinI've got immediate access to skype and mumble.....Mar 18 11:33
_Goblinor phone?Mar 18 11:33
DaemonFCI usually don't go this long with a PC, but I just don't see where things have improved enough since 2009 to justify buying a new one.Mar 18 11:54
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schestowitz___Goblin: is the mumble recorder working now?Mar 18 12:01
schestowitz__IIRC you had it working on hyour versionMar 18 12:01
schestowitz__1.2 or something like thatMar 18 12:01
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_GoblinNot sure......I've used mumble with Gordon, but he recorded...Mar 18 12:02
_GoblinI think I've got the latest release....thats on my other installation so I can't say at moment.Mar 18 12:03
_Goblinwhat options you got?Mar 18 12:03
schestowitz__let me see what version of mumble i can fetchMar 18 12:05
schestowitz__are you still going to the US?Mar 18 12:06
schestowitz__I got 1.2.3Mar 18 12:07
schestowitz__I have a recor buttonMar 18 12:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nixed, Seniors, and Networking BasicsMar 18 12:08
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schestowitz__So I think we'll be good to go, I just need to configure itMar 18 12:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ACPI, firmware and your securityMar 18 12:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/W9IOvISpNfMar 18 12:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Decking Out Linux for the Senior SetMar 18 12:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rWtgi7g6BAMar 18 12:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nixed, Seniors, and Networking Basics | Tux MachinesMar 18 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ACPI, firmware and your security | Tux MachinesMar 18 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Decking Out Linux for the Senior Set | Tux MachinesMar 18 12:08
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_GoblinI'll check it when I returnMar 18 12:28
schestowitz__I got my USB headset around now, just need to configure mumble with the wizard and test the recording featureMar 18 12:37
schestowitz___Goblin: will you consider making this a  weekly, monthly thing again? We really did have some large audience for a Linux (niche) show, and now there's more traffic around the sitesMar 18 12:37
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MinceRgeekingsMar 18 12:52
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_rvt_np?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx297APCJKQVR1X#CustomerDiscussionsNewMar 18 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Walmart's Made in USA campaign exposed as a worthless gimmick. [ http://ur1.ca/gvlb3 ]Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFChttp://www.today.com/money/testing-wal-marts-made-usa-campaign-2D11678842Mar 18 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.today.com | Testing Wal-Mart's Made in the USA campaign - TODAY.com [ http://ur1.ca/gvlb4 ]Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFCWalmart's Made in USA campaign has been exposed as a worthless gimmick.Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFCMost of the items listed on their website aren't actually sold in stores, and the ones that are, are things like groceries, household chemicals, toiletries, and other things that Walmart has been selling all along.Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFCWhen the reporters went to try to find the substantial goods that were "Made in USA" and sold in stores, they found that none of them were actually sold at any stores in driving range.Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFCThe reporter eventually found a set of cooking skillets that had Made in USA signage decorating the display, only to find that they were actually "Engineered in USA / Made in China". It looks like another Apple business method has spread.... Mar 18 13:47
DaemonFCIt seems that Microsoft has found another way to bribe people into using Bing.Mar 18 13:50
DaemonFCThey're offering 100 GB of "cloud" storage if you use Bing for a certain number of searches.Mar 18 13:50
DaemonFCLet the search for A, AA, AAA, AAAA, AAAAA, AAAAA, AAAAAA, and AAAAAAA commence!Mar 18 13:51
MinceRooh, i get to hand my data to m$ for free?Mar 18 13:51
MinceRwhere do i sign up?Mar 18 13:51
DaemonFCMinceR: With prices as cheap as Microsoft and Google are offering, you know who is subsidizing this....Mar 18 13:52
DaemonFCThe NSA is offering co-branded cloud storage.Mar 18 13:52
DaemonFCThe NSA provides the servers, and Google and Microsoft provide the front.Mar 18 13:53
MinceR:>Mar 18 13:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source forum 2014, a firstMar 18 14:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source forum 2014, a first | Tux MachinesMar 18 14:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     TN state departments asked to switch over toMar 18 14:03
TweetTuxMachines                 open source software http://t.co/OcJ8A3OqC4Mar 18 14:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TN state departments asked to switch over to open source software | Tux MachinesMar 18 14:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The easiest way to turn your app idea into anMar 18 14:03
TweetTuxMachines                 appliance http://t.co/cGxtwzXS7BMar 18 14:03
DaemonFCCome on. Do you really think that they could make a profit by giving you 100 GB of storage for the price of a large fountain soda?Mar 18 14:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/gvlefMar 18 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The easiest way to turn your app idea into an appliance | Tux MachinesMar 18 14:03
DaemonFCWho thinks that?Mar 18 14:03
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satipera@schestowitz hi roy, other people are picking up on red matrix, https://www.newschallenge.org/challenge/2014/submissions/the-red-matrix?zid=satipera%40friendicared.net if you support this effort please spread the wordMar 18 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newschallenge.org | News Challenge - How can we strengthen the Internet for free expression and innovation? - The Red Matrix [ http://ur1.ca/gvlfu ]Mar 18 14:10
Sosumihttp://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/18-03-2014/127127-eu_aid-0/Mar 18 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-english.pravda.ru | EU aid destroyed Portugal - English pravda.ru [ http://ur1.ca/gvlg6 ]Mar 18 14:12
Sosumidebt moratorium and new deal for europe, when? neverMar 18 14:13
SosumilolMar 18 14:13
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satiperaps @schestowitz tuxmachines appears now to have more output than techrights, is it now the main project?Mar 18 14:25
schestowitz__no, they're different Mar 18 14:27
schestowitz__one has original posts, takes much more timeMar 18 14:27
schestowitz__I am going to write sone original works later todayMar 18 14:28
DaemonFCAccording to Walmart.com, a small business that makes scented candles for Walmart employs 60 Americans.Mar 18 14:31
DaemonFCThat's twice as many permanent jobs as Keystone XL, with no oil spills.Mar 18 14:32
DaemonFCSosumi: The US government is in deep shit.Mar 18 14:33
DaemonFCThey're resorting to accounting tricks to hide the debt.Mar 18 14:33
DaemonFCThe Federal Reserve buys government bonds and puts them on its balance sheet, to keep them off the market and drive interest rates down.Mar 18 14:34
DaemonFCIt doesn't cost the Federal Reserve anything. The government pays the interest on the bonds. The Federal Reserve pays the interest money back to the Treasury, which puts it back into the budget.Mar 18 14:35
DaemonFCThat much is sort of how the public banking system of Canada used to work.Mar 18 14:35
DaemonFCUntil the 1970s, when the central bank was privatized.Mar 18 14:35
_Goblinschestowitz__, Right, I'm back...Just need to sort a few things out.....Mar 18 14:36
DaemonFCThose bonds are sitting there at the Fed, and it's doubtful that the private banks that run the Fed are amused at the idea of eating all of it.Mar 18 14:36
DaemonFCA few Congress Critters noted that the government could cancel the debt by passing a law declaring all of the bonds at the Fed void, but that's not gonna happen.Mar 18 14:36
DaemonFCIt'd be a neat way of canceling $3 trillion of debt, but it's not gonna happen. :)Mar 18 14:37
DaemonFCWho thinks that Congress is going to tell a bunch of banksters to eat $3 trillion?Mar 18 14:37
DaemonFCThere's no limit to how much the Fed's balance sheet can grow. That's one of the things that's wrong with our money system.Mar 18 14:38
DaemonFCIt has been sucking the toxic sludge out of the system, but the toxic sludge is still there.Mar 18 14:39
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445931978588962816Mar 18 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz This is the basis for her complaint: You need to listen to her 40 minute speech. CIA CG filed a criminal complaint with DOJ.Mar 18 14:40
DaemonFCThey're going to put the vacuum cleaner into reverse and pump the toxic sludge back out into the system as soon as they figure out how to repackage it.Mar 18 14:40
schestowitz___Goblin: okMar 18 14:40
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445932406273753088  https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445932606941835264Mar 18 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz "Justice Department Has FBI Investigate Senate Staffers for ‘Unauthorized Removal’ of CIA Torture Docs" http://t.co/M7V8hFI5ZBMar 18 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dissenter.firedoglake.com | Justice Department Has FBI Investigate Senate Staffers for ‘Unauthorized Removal’ of CIA Torture Documents | The DissenterMar 18 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz This is why she's complaining about CIA spying. Feinstein's press-complaint is her response to the CIA prosecuting her staff.Mar 18 14:40
schestowitz__Somehow I missed that. So now we know she doesn't genuinely care about abuses, only retributionMar 18 14:41
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445932910009671682Mar 18 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not existMar 18 14:43
schestowitz__"Right now, her staffers are all paying for expensive attorneys. Feinstein press-complained, so DOJ probably won't investigate."Mar 18 14:43
DaemonFCSomeone posted about a guy getting a $400,000 hospital bill. I had a $12,000 ER bill once.Mar 18 14:43
DaemonFCThe damndest thing happened. After not paying it, they eventually wrote it off. Next year, it'll be off my credit report.Mar 18 14:44
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445933530393362432Mar 18 14:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JenniferPGeneva: @schestowitz If Feinstein hadn'tve complained (abt investigation) SSCI staff could have wound-up with 100k legal bills like @JesselynRadack.Mar 18 14:44
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/JenniferPGeneva/status/445933738674098176