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| DaemonFC | http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/02/ukrainians-are-having-delightful-day-abandoned-presidential-palace/358393/ | Feb 23 01:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thewire.com | Ukrainians Are Having a Delightful Day at the Abandoned Presidential Palace - The Wire [ http://ur1.ca/goi9g ] | Feb 23 01:15 | |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Feb 23 01:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Advocacy - My Take http://t.co/PcwXNEuvfl | Feb 23 01:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Advocacy - My Take | Tux Machines | Feb 23 01:57 | |
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| 14WAB7WGZ | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.74 | Feb 23 05:27 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 23 10:13 |
| Sosumi | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhGqKgZCEAAcFie.jpg:large | Feb 23 10:17 |
| Sosumi | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2014/022014-microsoft-lync-nsa-278925.html?hpg1=bn | Feb 23 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program - Network World [ http://ur1.ca/gokj0 ] | Feb 23 10:18 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program - Network World [ http://ur1.ca/gokj0 ] | Feb 23 10:18 | |
| Sosumi | is it just Lync? or all the outbound and inbound traffic is logged | Feb 23 10:19 |
| Sosumi | so if you were watching facebook at your workplace | Feb 23 10:19 |
| Sosumi | don't | Feb 23 10:19 |
| Sosumi | and Yanukovych just got sacked | Feb 23 10:21 |
| Sosumi | Tymoshenko, the EU lapdog, has been freed and a while a go was incentivating further protests | Feb 23 10:22 |
| Sosumi | right wing extremists were securing the parliament | Feb 23 10:23 |
| Sosumi | will they also set fire to it? | Feb 23 10:23 |
| schestowitz | ah | Feb 23 10:32 |
| schestowitz | ah, I think you forget the story of Germany | Feb 23 10:32 |
| schestowitz | not many analogies here | Feb 23 10:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: first issue of LInux Voice ready for download, but my name won't be in it | Feb 23 10:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: since didn't get sent off in time | Feb 23 10:32 |
| schestowitz | can do next time | Feb 23 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: they wil put something in the second issue it seems though | Feb 23 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: apparnatly it's got some good Mageia 4 reiew to, but I haen't looked yet | Feb 23 10:33 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3678306 | Feb 23 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "Valve's digital ... | Feb 23 10:34 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "Valve's digital ... | Feb 23 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | "Just like old Shareware/Freeware days, anybody remember Kroz, Commander Keen, independent publishers and developers rule" | Feb 23 10:34 |
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| sebsebseb | hi neildarlow | Feb 23 10:42 |
| neildarlow | sebsebseb: Hi there! | Feb 23 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Reason Some Games Are Delayed For Linux In | Feb 23 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Humble Indie Bundles http://t.co/sUYiFAjDFD | Feb 23 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gokwr | Feb 23 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.13.4 Brings ARM64 (AArch64) | Feb 23 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements http://t.co/V1Aysyl4Ow | Feb 23 10:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gokws | Feb 23 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Reason Some Games Are Delayed For Linux In Humble Indie Bundles | Tux Machines | Feb 23 10:45 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Reason Some Games Are Delayed For Linux In Humble Indie Bundles | Tux Machines | Feb 23 10:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13.4 Brings ARM64 (AArch64) Improvements | Tux Machines | Feb 23 10:45 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13.4 Brings ARM64 (AArch64) Improvements | Tux Machines | Feb 23 10:45 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Feb 23 11:49 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Feb 23 11:49 | |
| msb__ | Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure, Crystal Caves, Secret Agent, Bio Menace. The good ones had small enough characters and a big enough scene that you could see what enemies were coming, rather than just get surprised by it and have to shoot fast. But you have to use some reasoning and skill to overcome the enemies. | Feb 23 11:50 |
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| msb__ | They were quite intelligently designed. | Feb 23 11:51 |
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| msb__ | They're all listed here: http://www.g4tv.com/games/publishers/apogee/456/ | Feb 23 11:55 |
| msb__ | Yo, bot! | Feb 23 11:55 |
| msb__ | !bot | Feb 23 11:56 |
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| schestowitz__ | bad month for freenode | Feb 23 11:59 |
| schestowitz__ | never been this unreliable | Feb 23 11:59 |
| schestowitz__ | Has that disgusting agent gone away yet? | Feb 23 11:59 |
| schestowitz__ | http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5 | Feb 23 11:59 |
| schestowitz__ | (The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)) | Feb 23 12:00 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/GreenGeekOrg/status/437556941725118464 | Feb 23 12:00 |
| schestowitz__ | "@schestowitz great! we've worked converting some small businesses. 100+ is a good number. We'd default to MINT or Xubuntu LTS. 14.04?" | Feb 23 12:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Whatever suits existing hardware | Feb 23 12:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Mozilla Developers Will Unveil Some Firefox | Feb 23 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS Based Devices At MWC 2014 | Feb 23 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SiK2NmiYHr | Feb 23 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/golok | Feb 23 12:09 |
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| Sosumi | I also remember a lot of stuff | Feb 23 13:41 |
| Sosumi | but never stupider times like these | Feb 23 13:41 |
| Sosumi | back in 2004, when I actually got the computer bug | Feb 23 13:42 |
| Sosumi | things were a lot calmer | Feb 23 13:42 |
| Sosumi | and I mean it in a general perspective | Feb 23 13:43 |
| Sosumi | not just constant attempts on free software | Feb 23 13:43 |
| Sosumi | *the | Feb 23 13:43 |
| Sosumi | and we were still 4 years away from the late 2008 depression | Feb 23 13:44 |
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| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/VANDR14/status/437496427627819008/photo/1 | Feb 23 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@VANDR14: Вот например, сносят памятник ВОВ во Львове. http://t.co/TlLXc7vsjR | Feb 23 14:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@VANDR14: Вот например, сносят памятник ВОВ во Львове. http://t.co/TlLXc7vsjR | Feb 23 14:52 | |
| Sosumi | after toppling Lenin's monument | Feb 23 14:52 |
| Sosumi | now monuments to red army heroes that died fighting nazi germany also being toppled | Feb 23 14:53 |
| Sosumi | also, Timoshenko to meet with Merkel soon | Feb 23 14:55 |
| Sosumi | Merkel = the cadaverous golem of europe | Feb 23 14:55 |
| Sosumi | also, Camoron, "it is not russia's duty to militarily intervene in ukraine" | Feb 23 14:57 |
| Sosumi | so polish intervention under covert nato guise? | Feb 23 14:57 |
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| MinceR | i'm all for toppling commie monuments | Feb 23 15:37 |
| MinceR | but of course they're too communazi to do that in hungaristan | Feb 23 15:37 |
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| *dissent is now known as vallor | Feb 23 16:47 | |
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| Sosumi | I remember Sarkozi in france | Feb 23 17:02 |
| Sosumi | trying to erase from history books everything related to the napolionic incursions | Feb 23 17:03 |
| Sosumi | all in order to try to bury some shady european history | Feb 23 17:04 |
| Sosumi | in order to promote further european integration | Feb 23 17:04 |
| Sosumi | and we all know | Feb 23 17:05 |
| Sosumi | those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat the same mistakes | Feb 23 17:05 |
| Sosumi | and the same can be said about any kind of monuments | Feb 23 17:05 |
| Sosumi | let them stay there as marker of a long past time that should never be forgotten | Feb 23 17:06 |
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| MinceR | the reminders are not so good if they proclaim that occupants were "liberators" | Feb 23 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung's Tizen on Gear plan makes sense | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/T7pyLPwlcm | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfl | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Web Usage Almost Doubled, Now At ~2%? | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kFX5XC0W1c | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfn | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google's Tim Bray steps down in the name of | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | working remotely http://t.co/eBCW04wptt | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfo | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti Maxwell Continues Running | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Great On Linux http://t.co/lN3vvjVOMc | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfp | Feb 23 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung's Tizen on Gear plan makes sense | Tux Machines | Feb 23 17:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Amazon's Android set-top box reportedly set for | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | March release http://t.co/m2HqexwjYo | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfq | Feb 23 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Web Usage Almost Doubled, Now At ~2%? | Tux Machines | Feb 23 17:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's Tim Bray steps down in the name of working remotely | Tux Machines | Feb 23 17:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti Maxwell Continues Running Great On Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 23 17:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Amazon's Android set-top box reportedly set for March release | Tux Machines | Feb 23 17:54 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Feb 23 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | Geekings | Feb 23 19:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Is freenode finally stable again? | Feb 23 19:01 |
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| DaemonFC | I posted a rant about Apple devices. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I thought Microsoft Windows was bad until I saw ports of Apple software running on it. Where to begin? | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | It's fat, it's slow, it's full of bugs. It installs system level services and unrelated software that the user did not request. Just having it installed has broken Windows and left it unable to boot on several occasions.... | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | You're making a really big goddamned mistake if you buy an iPod or an iPhone and use Windows or GNU/Linux. Using it on Windows is a real pain because you need Apple's gargantuan buggy pile of ****ware. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | On GNU/Linux, it's not *as* bad. We have a thin library that has a reverse engineered implementation of Apple's file transport protocol. It doesn't require any particular software. Amarok, Rhythmbox, and Banshee are all known to work well with libimobiledevice. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | The problem is that every time we RE Apple's transport protocol, Apple changes it and we have to do it all over again, so you really have to check the libimobiledevice list of supported devices. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Even if it *does* work, you're still using an expensive iThing that does not work as well as competing products. I was astounded that anyone would pay $300 for an MP3 player. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Apple's MP3 players were not the first. And they weren't even the best when they hit the market. They just cost more than everyone else's. That's a theme with Apple devices. They're a status symbol. They occasionally make something for their poorer cultists, like the Mac Mini or the iPod Shuffle. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I looked and saw that their latest Mac Mini does not support DVI, so I'd have to buy a DVI to HDMI cable to continue using my monitor with it. And then, it does not support "High Definition Content Protection" digital handcuffs, so Mac OS would refuse to play Blu Rays at 1920 x 1080, like I can do over DVI-D with GNU/Linux because I worked around that problem. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | There's a simple two step process for using the LG G2 or Google Nexus 5 with Windows or GNU/Linux. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Plug it into the USB port and open your file manager or media player. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Oh my god! It's like it's from the ****ing future! Shut up and take my money! | Feb 23 19:20 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | I posted the following comment on Mike Pence's Facebook wall, in response to a comment in favor of marijuana legalization. | Feb 23 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | "Colorado says that their tax receipts for recreational marijuana were expected to be $93 million a year, and they're on track to exceed that by a significant margin. If Governor Pence and the General Assembly used Colarado law as a model, then between 2014-2020, $700 million+ (or 25%) of the I-69 expansion would be paid for and then the state could use the tax receipts to cover its 10% share of the Medicaid expansion after 2020 with money left | Feb 23 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | over for other priorities, perhaps including an income tax reduction. It's stupid that cancer sticks and alcohol are legal and have never done a positive thing for anyone, yet nobody is seriously arguing for us to ban adults from choosing to use them, yet Indiana Republicans including Pence have made it possible to get a longer prison sentence for having one ounce of pot than for ****ing murdering someone. Replace Governor and strike any key!" | Feb 23 19:47 |
| msb__ | Cannabis can wake people up so they no longer believe and aren't controlled by the lies from the government and corporate media. That's why there were so many protests that they forced the Vietnam War to end. This was well-known at the time, published in the "underground newspapers" -- Berkeley Barb, etc. I was alive and active at that time. The government and corporate fascist thugs were shocked that the people forced one of their | Feb 23 19:59 |
| msb__ | wars to end. That's why they made the punishments for cannabis greater than for murder. | Feb 23 20:00 |
| msb__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4pBysFk84 | Feb 23 20:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Jefferson Airplane - Mexico - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/goo7n ] | Feb 23 20:06 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06XTYfChShM | Feb 23 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Rochard - automatische kaput - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/goo7x ] | Feb 23 20:08 | |
| DaemonFC | The computer was from Apple. ;) | Feb 23 20:08 |
| msb__ | That entire song -- Mexico -- is about cannabis. "There were a half a million people on the lawn, and we song to their faces in the dawn." -- Woodstock | Feb 23 20:10 |
| msb__ | song --> sang | Feb 23 20:10 |
| msb__ | That entire song -- Mexico -- is about cannabis. "There were a half a million people on the lawn, and we sang to their faces in the dawn." -- Woodstock | Feb 23 20:16 |
| msb__ | It was a revolution, a Renaissance. Jefferson Airplane were among the main leaders of it. We need that same spirit today! | Feb 23 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, it looks like they removed all download links and most references to any version of Safari for Windows. | Feb 23 20:20 |
| msb__ | Bush and Obama are today's Nixons. The War of Terror -- the US invading and murdering millions of people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria -- is today's Vietnam War. | Feb 23 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | Laz says: | Feb 23 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | Apple.com. I'm looking at it right now, in the support area, but never mind, you'll have to set up an account to access the support area. With all you paranoia, something you'll never do, and can't do from any Linux install. You need the account to set up Quicktime and the auto-updates, Safari won't work without it. No Quicktime for Linux. | Feb 23 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | I'll send you $20 over Paypal if you can prove to me that there is a Safari 7.1 for Windows and give me a link to the executable. | Feb 23 20:21 |
| msb__ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mplayer#Media_formats Mplayer, which runs on all three platforms, plays MOV (QuickTime) format. | Feb 23 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MPlayer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gooc9 ] | Feb 23 20:27 | |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: Is there anything we need Safari for? | Feb 23 20:31 |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: Is there anything we need Quicktime for? | Feb 23 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines When it comes to cloud and scale out, Ubuntu | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | has the winning model http://t.co/AbbUlvS42W | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goodc | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FLOSS Office Suites http://t.co/c0TX03Cmls | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goodd | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung drops Android for Tizen in new Gear 2 | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartwatches http://t.co/M125AB8NMX | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goode | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 4.5 to arrive on Nexus 8 in July | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/T2RKEtj3La | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goodg | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ars walkthrough: Using the ZFS next-gen | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | filesystem on Linux http://t.co/mRG1Qz1ra7 | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goodh | Feb 23 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | When it comes to cloud and scale out, Ubuntu has the winning model | Tux Machines | Feb 23 20:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FLOSS Office Suites | Tux Machines | Feb 23 20:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung drops Android for Tizen in new Gear 2 smartwatches | Tux Machines | Feb 23 20:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android 4.5 to arrive on Nexus 8 in July | Tux Machines | Feb 23 20:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ars walkthrough: Using the ZFS next-gen filesystem on Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 23 20:36 | |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: I just played three .mov videos with mplayer -- picture and sound fine. | Feb 23 20:39 |
| Sosumi | MD Players sound quality > all | Feb 23 21:03 |
| Sosumi | at the time | Feb 23 21:03 |
| Sosumi | but comparing the ipods with the creative jukeboxes and so on | Feb 23 21:04 |
| Sosumi | the ipods were better | Feb 23 21:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/CM6G1ge85A | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goojz | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/wvuu8rMilc | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook0 | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Several Great Linux Terminal Games | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/dt1953LTUK | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook1 | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines QBEH-1: The Atlas Cube Atmospheric First Person | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Puzzle Game Releasing In April For Linux | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ju8SxnaADH | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook3 | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.13 Finally Arrives on Arch | Feb 23 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 23 21:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux, with a Warning http://t.co/oF4I6I4bo0 | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook4 | Feb 23 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Feb 23 21:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Several Great Linux Terminal Games | Tux Machines | Feb 23 21:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QBEH-1: The Atlas Cube Atmospheric First Person Puzzle Game Releasing In April For Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 23 21:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13 Finally Arrives on Arch Linux, with a Warning | Tux Machines | Feb 23 21:15 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, the county was hurting for money so bad that they canceled their agreement to subsidize Walmart, and started sending Walmart a tax bill. They taxed Walmart for $460,000 last year. I got a kick out of that. | Feb 23 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart went from paying nothing to being the top taxpayer in the county within one year. | Feb 23 21:23 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3678683 | Feb 23 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | When writers reli... | Feb 23 21:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | "|Big publishers entered the memory hole era a decade ago. This is why it is important to be able to share. We won't have libraries with the evil copyright laws publishers force on us. US News now has all the validity and weight of toilet paper.| | Feb 23 21:39 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3679189 | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 23 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Google used to re... | Feb 23 21:40 | |
| schestowitz__ | I think the deal was that you were supposed to spend 20% of your time on some personal project. An inexpensive book scanner, I think, is an example of such a project. | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Scroogle is scaring people away but I don't know if there has been any real internal cultural change. Certainly, they have sucked in a lot of people and there are infiltrators. That they can tolerate Microsoft people in management is a bad sign. | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | If any company could pull off a remote campus, it should be Google. There is something special about a university type setting where people bump into each other and are constantly challenged and exposed to new ideas. Perhaps they should have offered Bray a sabbatical instead of an ultimatum. | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe he can join a company like Jolla now | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3679110 | Feb 23 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | The worst thing o... | Feb 23 21:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Now an official part of the effort to restore trust in the usual bad actors?" | Feb 23 21:41 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3679141 | Feb 23 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Linux Web Usage A... | Feb 23 21:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | "The eternal 2% lie wont' go away till Microsoft is dead." | Feb 23 21:41 |
| schestowitz__ | a quarter of computers sold with a form of Linux, so their stats (US only) lack integrity | Feb 23 21:42 |
| schestowitz__ | > == | Feb 23 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 23 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > "Netflix Agrees to Pay Comcast to End Traffic Jam" | Feb 23 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304834704579401071892041790 | Feb 23 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-online.wsj.com | Netflix Agrees to Pay Comcast to End Web Traffic Jam - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gooti ] | Feb 23 21:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 23 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > So it escalates. Net Neutrality not even mentioned in the article. | Feb 23 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | WSJ hates Net Neutrality. Murdoch would benefit from slowing down competition. | Feb 23 21:52 |
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| DaemonFC | I might go stock up... | Feb 23 23:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PC-BSD 10.0 vs. PC-BSD 9.2 vs. Ubuntu 13.10 | Feb 24 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Benchmarks http://t.co/5Oyz5l9K4g | Feb 24 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gopy6 | Feb 24 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PC-BSD 10.0 vs. PC-BSD 9.2 vs. Ubuntu 13.10 Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Feb 24 01:54 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxM00TCYYML18V | Feb 24 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Netflix has agreed to pay Comcast to stop throttling their traffic. [ http://ur1.ca/goq23 ] | Feb 24 02:25 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/business/media/comcast-and-netflix-reach-a-streaming-agreement.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0 | Feb 24 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix has paid Comcast to quit bullying them. | Feb 24 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/goq24 ] | Feb 24 02:25 | |
| DaemonFC | One wonders who Comcast will bully next. Now that they know it works and that they can get away with extortion. | Feb 24 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast subscribers, who pay $70-80 a month should not get degraded service and bandwidth caps. | Feb 24 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | "a person close to the companies said it involved annual payments of several million dollars" | Feb 24 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | The extortion might get bigger when the deal expires. | Feb 24 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix will not absorb this. They will raise their service prices by several dollars per subscriber, and make their subscribers pay it. | Feb 24 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint plans to roll out the Android 4.4 update soon. | Feb 24 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | to the LG G2... | Feb 24 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | They're going to roll out the 4.4.2 release | Feb 24 03:15 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/news/local/Suspect-Leads-Police-On-Pursuit-Before-Capture-246791541.html | Feb 24 06:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indianasnewscenter.com | Suspect Leads Police On Pursuit Before Capture (VIDEO) | Indiana's NewsCenter: News, Sports, Weather, Fort Wayne WPTA-TV, WISE-TV, and CW | Local [ http://ur1.ca/gorcb ] | Feb 24 06:50 | |
| DaemonFC | "Fort Wayne police identified the suspect as Henry Purifoy III, 23, of Fort Wayne." | Feb 24 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | Whenever someone's name ends with "III", you know they're a trailer park meth head. | Feb 24 06:50 |
| MinceR | like bill gates? :> | Feb 24 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | well... | Feb 24 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | In Indiana, at least. | Feb 24 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | The most Republican part of the state is Wakarusa. | Feb 24 06:56 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3678229 | Feb 24 06:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Google Search is ... | Feb 24 06:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | "If it's the same with a different ISP, I suppose that it's Google. Is anyone else reporting this yet?" | Feb 24 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | In the Potawatomi language, it means "knee deep in mud". | Feb 24 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, anyone that lives in Indiana right now is neck deep in shit, and I don't know the Potawatomi word for that. | Feb 24 06:57 |
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| MinceR | :> | Feb 24 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | I'm reading another story about the diseased animal parts that are unfit for human consumption in Hot Pockets while eating Hot Pockets. | Feb 24 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's OK because they're not the philly cheese steak ones that are made with ground internal organs. | Feb 24 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | These claim they are a "cuban sandwich" with ham, swiss cheese, pickles, and mustard. | Feb 24 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, who knows what it really is? | Feb 24 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | Probably ground internal organs from diseased animals with a bunch of chemicals. | Feb 24 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | But it was only $1.49, so I can die with a little bit of money. | Feb 24 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://thinkprogress.org/home/2014/02/23/3321131/iphone-security-flaw/ | Feb 24 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | Latest iPhone Update Fixes Major Security Flaw That Apple Kept Quiet | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/gori6 ] | Feb 24 07:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 3.14-rc4 http://t.co/dqP5zxsQAC | Feb 24 07:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gormg | Feb 24 07:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 3.14-rc4 | Tux Machines | Feb 24 07:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu’s Booth at MWC 2014 Looks Spectacular | Feb 24 08:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/BEJeJCtbdo | Feb 24 08:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gorrz | Feb 24 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu’s Booth at MWC 2014 Looks Spectacular | Tux Machines | Feb 24 08:20 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/22/bill-maher-overcoming-masturbation_n_4838140.html | Feb 24 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | Bill Maher Reads The Most Ineffective Anti-Masturbation Pamphlet Ever [ http://ur1.ca/gos7y ] | Feb 24 09:23 | |
| DaemonFC | The Microsoft Media shells out big bucks slandering Android by claiming it is unforkable, then Microsoft collaborator Nokia forks Android to serve Microsoft. | Feb 24 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://gizmodo.com/nokia-x-the-first-nokia-android-1529525060 | Feb 24 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Nokia X: The First Nokia Androids [ http://ur1.ca/gosah ] | Feb 24 09:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meld 3.11.0 Has Been Ported to GTK+ 3 | Feb 24 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/vVsXNX0tJW | Feb 24 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gosb0 | Feb 24 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Opening Up Communications | Feb 24 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/g0d18eyUbG | Feb 24 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gosb1 | Feb 24 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meld 3.11.0 Has Been Ported to GTK+ 3 | Tux Machines | Feb 24 09:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Opening Up Communications | Tux Machines | Feb 24 09:43 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 24 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/02/06 | Feb 24 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | As TPP Opposition Soars, Corporate Media Blackout Deafening | Common Dreams [ http://ur1.ca/gosc7 ] | Feb 24 09:50 | |
| DaemonFC | There's a blackout on the Trans Pacific Partnership. Fox News and CNN mentioned it ZERO times. MSNBC mentioned it the Ed Show several times, but even he really softballed it. | Feb 24 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | You'd expect more news coverage of a treaty between countries that control more than 40% of the Gross World Product. | Feb 24 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | It's shameful that we have to go to the internet to read reports about the leaked draft, and how it will murder people with drug patents and kill the software freedom movement. | Feb 24 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | Even Congress is having a hard time reviewing the drafts. It's easier for them to read the internet leaks than to get Obama's US Trade Representative to cooperate. | Feb 24 09:50 |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: How will the TPP kill the software freedom movement? Not saying it won't, I'm just ignorant on it. | Feb 24 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | The enforcement of the 300 GB cap has been "temporarily suspended" for over two years now. | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | Download away! | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, I have heard of them "contacting" people about "excessive" usage if they go past 700 GB. | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | One dude got a phone call from Comcast because they thought his computer might be a spam-spewing Windows zombie. | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | People who use Windows and don't make sure it is free of spam-spewing malware deserve to open up a $500 cable bill. ****ers. | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | That'll teach 'em. | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | It will require every member state, including the US, to make patent violations a criminal offense. | Feb 24 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | Including software patents. | Feb 24 10:59 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.macrumors.com/2014/02/23/apple-fixing-ssl-bug-other-apps-affected/ | Feb 24 11:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Apple Planning Fix for OS X SSL Bug as New Research Reveals iMessage, Other Apps Affected - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gosyh ] | Feb 24 11:46 | |
| Sosumi | "planning" | Feb 24 11:46 |
| Sosumi | just like they planned to fix that other itunes bug | Feb 24 11:47 |
| Sosumi | it took them what? 2 years and a half | Feb 24 11:47 |
| Sosumi | how long did it that them to fix the turbo issue with itunes back in 2009? | Feb 24 11:48 |
| Sosumi | after they acknowledged the problem (which at first they didn't) | Feb 24 11:48 |
| Sosumi | 6 months | Feb 24 11:48 |
| Sosumi | crapple, lol | Feb 24 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Shell 3.10.4 Brings Support for | Feb 24 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | High-Resolution Displays http://t.co/FEddNArAJB | Feb 24 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/got75 | Feb 24 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Shell 3.10.4 Brings Support for High-Resolution Displays | Tux Machines | Feb 24 12:32 | |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/petrillic/status/437942007978541058 | Feb 24 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrillic: @schestowitz @glynmoody my understanding is they're paying to host their servers closer. This has nothing to do with NN. Akamai does it. | Feb 24 13:52 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/437943046156476417 | Feb 24 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @petrillic @schestowitz I've not seen it explained thus; details matter here... | Feb 24 13:53 | |
| DaemonFC | http://androidandme.com/2014/02/news/nokia-x-family-introduced-as-trio-of-android-based-smartphones/ | Feb 24 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-androidandme.com | Nokia X family introduced as trio of Android-based smartphones | Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/goto4 ] | Feb 24 13:54 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/23/comcasts-deal-with-netflix-makes-network-neutrality-obsolete/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/23/comcasts-deal-with-netflix-makes-network-neutrality-obsolete/ | Feb 24 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Comcast’s deal with Netflix makes network neutrality obsolete [ http://ur1.ca/goto6 ] | Feb 24 13:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft Android | Feb 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | meh | Feb 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I quoted you today | Feb 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | See my post about it this morning | Feb 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://news.techeye.net/business/netflix-caves-into-comcast-on-throttling | Feb 24 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.techeye.net | Netflix caves into Comcast on throttling - End of US net-neutrality | TechEye [ http://ur1.ca/gotod ] | Feb 24 13:55 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/conversations?conversation_id=43229 | Feb 24 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Diaspora* / Sign in [ http://ur1.ca/4c80w ] | Feb 24 13:56 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "oh - sorry I thought you speak german - - anyway nice posts - I try to read all ---- hahaha ---- thank you for being part of this dispora :-)" | Feb 24 13:56 |
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| msb__ | DaemonFC: How will the TPP kill the software freedom movement? Not saying it won't, I'm just ignorant on it. | Feb 24 14:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/fRyMLoJFQA | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwk | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google may cancel Chromebook subsidies, say | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Taiwan makers http://t.co/8QVucp9GaT | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwm | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wow! Tux Machines IS BAACCCKKKK! | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FeZuo6GFi8 | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwo | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ford to ditch Microsoft for BlackBerry in cars | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | say insiders http://t.co/P6fBhS65uH | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwp | Feb 24 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 24 14:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google may cancel Chromebook subsidies, say Taiwan makers | Tux Machines | Feb 24 14:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wow! Tux Machines IS BAACCCKKKK! | Tux Machines | Feb 24 14:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ford to ditch Microsoft for BlackBerry in cars say insiders | Tux Machines | Feb 24 14:39 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/keonne/status/437582439607586816 | Feb 24 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@keonne: @schestowitz @candtalan Sweet. I just got myself an MSI GS70 wiped off windows 8 and loaded her up with @archlinux - couldn't be happier | Feb 24 14:52 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/gh_geek/status/437961187360530432 | Feb 24 14:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gh_geek: It only lived in the mind of @selop RT @schestowitz: "Windows Phone is dead" http://t.co/N0WmM7cuWJ | Feb 24 14:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> communities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: What Does It Mean that Nokia Launches 3 Smartphones on Android, Now? It means desperation and that Windows Phone is dead | Feb 24 14:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $629 Blackphone aims to hide you from the NSA | Feb 24 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3ChScj6zpu | Feb 24 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gou70 | Feb 24 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $629 Blackphone aims to hide you from the NSA | Tux Machines | Feb 24 15:19 | |
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| abeNd-org | http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/24/5442596/ceo-of-verizon-says-he-expects-netflix-will-sign-deal-to-pay-them-as | Feb 24 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Verizon CEO says he expects Netflix will sign deal to pay them as well | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/govq2 ] | Feb 24 18:39 | |
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| Sosumi | Italian has another appointed prime minister | Feb 24 18:45 |
| Sosumi | *italy | Feb 24 18:45 |
| Sosumi | who promises immediate radical change | Feb 24 18:45 |
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| abeNd-org | how many mistresses? | Feb 24 18:46 |
| Sosumi | isn't there a saying who says that the more things change, the more they stay the same? | Feb 24 18:47 |
| Sosumi | probably one for each day of the week? | Feb 24 18:47 |
| Sosumi | but from as far as I know | Feb 24 18:48 |
| Sosumi | only Berlusconi could pull that | Feb 24 18:48 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 24 18:50 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Feb 24 18:50 |
| abeNd-org | ive given up on any politician ever actually doing anything good for the people they represent | Feb 24 18:51 |
| abeNd-org | the only thing they ever really represent is their own pocketbook | Feb 24 18:51 |
| gde33 | abeNd-org: oh but it isn't so complex, if you can just get the people represented to want something | Feb 24 18:51 |
| Sosumi | but they actually do good for the ppl they represent | Feb 24 18:51 |
| Sosumi | aka their campaign backers | Feb 24 18:52 |
| abeNd-org | sure, the special interests, check writers, etc | Feb 24 18:52 |
| Sosumi | yep | Feb 24 18:52 |
| gde33 | The grand nagus and other ferrengi | Feb 24 18:53 |
| abeNd-org | i think to clean this world up & set it straight, it would actually require one heck of an evil person willing to carry out some nasty stuff | Feb 24 18:53 |
| abeNd-org | someone willing to instantly flip the switch on criminals to erase them, & willing to enforce other laws without backing down | Feb 24 18:53 |
| abeNd-org | someone who doesnt care about political correctness | Feb 24 18:54 |
| abeNd-org | & who doesnt get assassinated :P | Feb 24 18:54 |
| gde33 | then the government funded mercinary armies will come and end everything | Feb 24 18:55 |
| abeNd-org | no need for an army in such a utopia | Feb 24 18:56 |
| gde33 | I know, it is all highly theoretical at that point | Feb 24 18:56 |
| abeNd-org | those left have no need/want/desire/reason to commit crime | Feb 24 18:56 |
| gde33 | lol | Feb 24 18:56 |
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| gde33 | I think I have a good picture how we can at least all agree to progress. | Feb 24 19:01 |
| abeNd-org | if they were gainfully employed, why would they need to commit a crime? | Feb 24 19:01 |
| gde33 | culture | Feb 24 19:02 |
| gde33 | I | Feb 24 19:02 |
| gde33 | 'm not kidding | Feb 24 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | ok, easy, fry them instantly, no second chances | Feb 24 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | obviously that person is no good to society | Feb 24 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | they should no longer exist | Feb 24 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | done | Feb 24 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | next | Feb 24 19:02 |
| gde33 | you are wrong actually | Feb 24 19:02 |
| gde33 | they are just people, the wrong people for the job | Feb 24 19:03 |
| gde33 | to some extend it is our fault they get the job | Feb 24 19:03 |
| abeNd-org | not our fault they choose to commit a crime | Feb 24 19:03 |
| gde33 | they might be guilty as well but lets just fix our end of the mistake | Feb 24 19:03 |
| gde33 | then they become irrelevant | Feb 24 19:03 |
| abeNd-org | im not holding a gun to their head telling them to commit crimes | Feb 24 19:04 |
| abeNd-org | that is their own free will | Feb 24 19:04 |
| gde33 | no you are just putting the wrong guy on the job | Feb 24 19:04 |
| gde33 | then you blame him for being bad at it | Feb 24 19:04 |
| gde33 | you are much more powerful than you think | Feb 24 19:04 |
| abeNd-org | being good or bad at a job has nothing to do with their choice to commit a crime, be bit petty or something like rape/murder | Feb 24 19:05 |
| gde33 | but it isn't abuot them | Feb 24 19:06 |
| abeNd-org | oh thats right, bleeding heart liberal, of course no one has personal responsibility | Feb 24 19:06 |
| *abeNd-org rolls eyes | Feb 24 19:06 | |
| gde33 | I understand you want to get away from what we have as fast as possible, shooting everyone seems a good solution for that. | Feb 24 19:06 |
| gde33 | but it is also an ugly one | Feb 24 19:07 |
| gde33 | no success is guranteed, you could be shooting people for a long time | Feb 24 19:07 |
| abeNd-org | yes, & i already denoted above about it taking one heck of a prolonged "act of evil" to clean humanity up | Feb 24 19:07 |
| gde33 | yeah | Feb 24 19:07 |
| gde33 | that was what i was refering to | Feb 24 19:07 |
| gde33 | I'm not that much in a hurry | Feb 24 19:08 |
| abeNd-org | im sure there are plenty of people who don't qualify for the wastebin of humanity | Feb 24 19:08 |
| gde33 | I think a basic income can be presented so that it makes good sense even to greedy check writers. | Feb 24 19:09 |
| gde33 | just give everyone 700 euro per month, no questions asked. | Feb 24 19:09 |
| gde33 | then decrease all wages by 700 | Feb 24 19:09 |
| abeNd-org | & instantly eliminate criminals | Feb 24 19:10 |
| gde33 | split education into modules as small as possible, give people a permanent raise for every module completed | Feb 24 19:10 |
| gde33 | elliminate crime, reduce healthcare cost etc | Feb 24 19:10 |
| gde33 | but also, cheaper workers, the option to send them home whenever you like, skilled workers sitting at home waiting for you to call for 1/3 day's work. | Feb 24 19:11 |
| gde33 | no need to organise their healthcare or their pension | Feb 24 19:11 |
| abeNd-org | but as you said, you still end up with people committing crime just to do it | Feb 24 19:11 |
| abeNd-org | those people need to be eliminated | Feb 24 19:12 |
| gde33 | crime starts small | Feb 24 19:12 |
| gde33 | we pressure people into the field by not giving them anything at all | Feb 24 19:12 |
| abeNd-org | sure, thats why it would be easy to nip it in the bud before they turn into mass murderers :P | Feb 24 19:12 |
| gde33 | no place to sleep + hunger + no money = fantastic fast learning criminal | Feb 24 19:12 |
| gde33 | learns like a ninja | Feb 24 19:13 |
| gde33 | but we create these people | Feb 24 19:13 |
| abeNd-org | yes, preventative is always better than reactive | Feb 24 19:13 |
| gde33 | it is the egotistical society that makes these people | Feb 24 19:13 |
| abeNd-org | put the infrastructure in for preventative | Feb 24 19:13 |
| gde33 | so we just need to be a bit more generous | Feb 24 19:13 |
| abeNd-org | but if they still choose to commit crimes, then well, g'bye! | Feb 24 19:14 |
| gde33 | you dont design a great society arround crime | Feb 24 19:14 |
| gde33 | crime is not the goal | Feb 24 19:14 |
| gde33 | you do have to address it but it cant be at the core of the argument | Feb 24 19:14 |
| gde33 | or the problem will only be fixed for a while | Feb 24 19:14 |
| gde33 | until the next idiot shows up | Feb 24 19:14 |
| gde33 | if everyone has a guranteed income they can get great credit | Feb 24 19:15 |
| gde33 | the money is guranteed to show up | Feb 24 19:15 |
| gde33 | the national debt is also backed by citizens | Feb 24 19:15 |
| gde33 | if the citizen is a worthless heap of sadness then you also cant borrow against him nationally | Feb 24 19:16 |
| abeNd-org | worthless heap of sadness... sounds like something off dilbert.com :) | Feb 24 19:17 |
| gde33 | I'm pretty funny but not that funny | Feb 24 19:17 |
| gde33 | abeNd-org: but does that make sense? If your system requires evil doers to function? perhaps not so awesome? lol | Feb 24 19:19 |
| gde33 | but imagine the fun if a basic income doesnt cause inflation the way everyone seems to think but actually improves the credit status of the whole country, the organisations and the people in it. | Feb 24 19:21 |
| abeNd-org | just the one in charge,a good person, who is willing to follow through with what today's society would consider bad | Feb 24 19:21 |
| gde33 | abeNd-org: I think Russell Brand figured it out, just use the media to bring the dumbest law to public attention, gather people arround it, then FORCE the politicians to debate the topic, while knowing we know that they know what 70% of the citizens think. | Feb 24 19:24 |
| gde33 | create the proverbial page, put everyone on it and then invite the politician to the discussion, after the decisions are made | Feb 24 19:25 |
| gde33 | then they can do their little show how they side with the public for being reelected | Feb 24 19:25 |
| gde33 | and if they listen properly, then we will vote for them again | Feb 24 19:26 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3683670 | Feb 24 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #linux #android f... | Feb 24 20:40 | |
| schestowitz | "The selling point being proprietary software and no physical cover for cameras? Eh..." | Feb 24 20:40 |
| gde33 | I was impressed howmany people are involved in making it all safe :D | Feb 24 20:58 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: haven't seen oiaohm in awhile :( | Feb 24 21:58 |
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| gde33 | this thing http://basicincome2013.eu | Feb 24 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-basicincome2013.eu | European Citizens' Initiative for an Unconditional Basic Income (UBI) | #basicincome | Feb 24 22:26 | |
| gde33 | they chose to enter the petition before gathering 1 m signatures | Feb 24 22:27 |
| gde33 | as if they didnt understand the game | Feb 24 22:27 |
| gde33 | or wanted to set it up to fail? | Feb 24 22:27 |
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| MinceR | gn | Feb 24 23:30 |
| gde33 | I think a basic income doesnt cause inflation, I think its limit is the point where some jobs wont find employees. Here it seems to provide a tool that forces unwanted jobs out of the market. | Feb 24 23:40 |
| gde33 | each citizen can get an increasing smack of cash until some jobs are not getting done | Feb 24 23:42 |
| gde33 | I imagine people will then try to do those tasks themselves | Feb 24 23:42 |
| gde33 | or increase the pay | Feb 24 23:42 |
| gde33 | I think the value of a currency depends on the ecconomic wealth of the citizens minting it? | Feb 24 23:43 |
| gde33 | can print as much money as you like without devaluing anything | Feb 24 23:44 |
| gde33 | haha! | Feb 24 23:44 |
| MinceR | and you can put them into circulation and then things will get devalued | Feb 24 23:45 |
| gde33 | I dont see why | Feb 24 23:46 |
| gde33 | the US for example already has so much debt | Feb 24 23:46 |
| gde33 | it would hardly add to that | Feb 24 23:46 |
| gde33 | you could look at the large amount of debt as a feature in that way :D | Feb 24 23:47 |
| gde33 | MinceR: things will get cheaper, wages will go down dramatically | Feb 24 23:48 |
| gde33 | minimum wage 0 USD per year | Feb 24 23:48 |
| gde33 | I think it can be done gradually, just enough to increase wages for shitty jobs | Feb 24 23:50 |
| gde33 | if you get 500 bucks just to stay alive a job that would normally pay 800 now pays 300 | Feb 24 23:51 |
| gde33 | it quickly gets dubious if you should be doing a job for 75 per week | Feb 24 23:52 |
| gde33 | a job might be fun enough to do for free, I think we have enough foss examples of that :) | Feb 24 23:53 |
| abeNd-org | yea, if i could afford to, id be probno IT support for all the libraries in my area | Feb 24 23:54 |
| gde33 | the basic income makes running a business so much more fun | Feb 24 23:55 |
| gde33 | always good new people available who work for astronomically low wages until the job is done, then they are happy to go home | Feb 24 23:56 |
| gde33 | almost surreal | Feb 24 23:56 |
| gde33 | no nonsense with pensions and healthcare, can focus entirely on doing business | Feb 24 23:57 |
| gde33 | better a nanny state than a nanny that is also your boss lol | Feb 24 23:58 |
| abeNd-org | it would be great if everyone could not worry about money & just do what they like to do for work | Feb 24 23:58 |
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| abeNd-org | but some people like killing others & would prefer to do that as opposed to anything else | Feb 24 23:58 |
| gde33 | the trick is to make it ecconomically viable | Feb 24 23:58 |
| gde33 | For the more war oriented people there is the factor of a civilian uprising. | Feb 24 23:59 |
| gde33 | this is always a risk | Feb 24 23:59 |
| gde33 | until you just provide for people, then they wont ever bother you ever again | Feb 24 23:59 |
| gde33 | it is not even expensive | Feb 24 23:59 |
| gde33 | if we are the good guys in the war then we should at least try to be the good guys? | Feb 25 00:00 |
| gde33 | fighting for some dictatorship isnt very motivating | Feb 25 00:00 |
| gde33 | us political myhology predicts the enemy will come from inside, like in Alien. | Feb 25 00:02 |
| abeNd-org | only if you deny fatties their hamburgers | Feb 25 00:15 |
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| msb | hello? | Feb 25 00:44 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | I do hope that Pence runs for president though. | Feb 25 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | 1. He'll lose. | Feb 25 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | 2. It'll shovel some **** out of the Indiana Governor's office. | Feb 25 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | Under Indiana law, he *could* run for governor and president at the same time, but he won't do it because it will make his presidential bid weaker if people see that he's not confident. | Feb 25 03:53 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I kind of wonder why, in the 21st century, I even have to dignify this crap with a response. | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | Without government welfare, the kind of people who gravitate to Fundamentalist Christianity are not smart enough or good enough to do many useful things in the modern world. They breed and they get more welfare. | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | Didn't Hannibal Lecter even say "A rational society would either kill me or find a use for me?". | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | What's their excuse? | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | The least they can do is say thank you for my money and quit oppressing me. They have a name for breeding and burning up government welfare. | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | They call it "draining the beast". | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | err, got the punctuation mixed up.... | Feb 25 05:55 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | They're lucky that I don't tell them what I really think, because "**** you and **** your terrorist religion too." is not very polite. | Feb 25 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | Menkaure says: | Feb 25 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | Big business stepped into this one primarily for practical reasons; it's a bad law with potential for disastrous consequences. Basically, any employee could refuse service to any customer on religious grounds; creating a potential PR and customer service nightmare for national retailers located in Arizona. Imagine trying to operate a large supermarket or department store where half your employees are offending and turning away customers with a | Feb 25 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | variety of whackadoodle excuses. | Feb 25 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | Well, at first, the religious kooks will show up to support that business, at least until they run out of other people's money and have to wait until the first of the month again. | Feb 25 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link. | Feb 25 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/22/1279622/-Mormons-Declare-War-on-Masturbation?detail=facebook | Feb 25 06:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailykos.com | Mormons Declare War on Masturbation [ http://ur1.ca/gp0c7 ] | Feb 25 06:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Bill Maher already got to this. He read out of one of their old pamphlets from the 70s. | Feb 25 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | "Wear pajamas that are difficult to open." Maher: "Yes, you just go into the store... 'Excuse me? Do you have any pajamas that are difficult to open?'" | Feb 25 06:27 |
| MinceR | fundie "logic": http://i.imgur.com/fHC7JQW.jpg | Feb 25 07:13 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: My favorite is "If women carried guns, they wouldn't be raped." | Feb 25 07:24 |
| MinceR | there's slightly more truth to that one than the fetus one | Feb 25 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | If women started shooting rapists and abortion clinic hecklers, I think we'd have some new gun control laws soon. | Feb 25 07:25 |
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| MinceR | :> | Feb 25 07:25 |
| MinceR | they'd be along the lines of "no guns for women", though... | Feb 25 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 25 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | at least they couldn't say "If women had guns" anymore. | Feb 25 07:26 |
| MinceR | at the cost of egalitarianism | Feb 25 07:35 |
| msb | DaemonFC: Hello, can you see me? | Feb 25 07:42 |
| msb | freenode is very intermittent | Feb 25 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 25 07:45 |
| msb | DaemonFC: You said | Feb 25 07:53 |
| msb | DaemonFC: You said TPP would kill software freedom movement. Would you explain that please? | Feb 25 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it would deal a very serious blow to it. | Feb 25 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | Some more than others. | Feb 25 07:56 |
| msb | DaemonFC: How? | Feb 25 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of free software that clearly violates US patents. | Feb 25 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | I benefit from other countries that don't recognize our patents when I download that software in binary form from their servers. | Feb 25 07:56 |
| msb | You mean for decoding DVDs? | Feb 25 07:57 |
| MinceR | a lot more than that | Feb 25 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | And there's always the possibility that software that didn't seem to violate any patents could be found to be in violation and effectively banned. | Feb 25 07:57 |
| MinceR | patent organizations tend to allow patents for obvious things that many others have used before the patent holder | Feb 25 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | msb: Most of the stuff in RPM Fusion Free is free software that runs afoul of some US law. | Feb 25 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | mostly patent law | Feb 25 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Nintendo has been very outspoken against emulators that pretend to be old Nintendo consoles. | Feb 25 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | They've been trying to get them declared illegal. | Feb 25 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Imagine that they got such a law or got a judge in the US to declare Nintendo emulators illegal. | Feb 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | But, the TPP made patent violations a potentially criminal offense. | Feb 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | So nobody in any country that is a member of the TPP could host a Nintendo emulator. | Feb 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's codecs for MPEG video and audio formats. | Feb 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | Certain fonts. | Feb 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | You'd be left using Fedora the way it has to ship to be compliant with US law. | Feb 25 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | So, there'd be some holes that you couldn't fill by grabbing someone else's RPMs. | Feb 25 08:00 |
| msb | Never heard of rpmfusion, and its website is down! But OK, it's stuff that violates goddamn swpats, font copyrights, codec stuff, etc. | Feb 25 08:02 |
| msb | So this kind of thing would have to be passed around on bittorrent! | Feb 25 08:03 |
| msb | Like movies and music! | Feb 25 08:03 |
| msb | Maybe it would be good for lots of people to be made criminals. | Feb 25 08:05 |
| msb | People would realize that corporations and corporate-controlled governments are out to exploit and control them. | Feb 25 08:06 |
| msb | Bittorrent is now the biggest type of traffic on the Net. | Feb 25 08:06 |
| MinceR | if the fascists turn the internet into a set of walled gardens, i'm not sure if it will still work | Feb 25 08:06 |
| msb | If the pipes still work, clever people may find ways through the walls. | Feb 25 08:07 |
| MinceR | if. | Feb 25 08:08 |
| msb | An alternative would be DIY-net -- wifi webs -- I forget what that's called by OLPCs can do it -- fiber strung between homes, lasers thru little telescopes, etc. | Feb 25 08:10 |
| msb | by--> but | Feb 25 08:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, mesh networking | Feb 25 08:10 |
| msb | right! | Feb 25 08:10 |
| MinceR | that's what people should build, especially in cities | Feb 25 08:10 |
| msb | To do that, and many other things, we need people to wake up. | Feb 25 08:11 |
| msb | Wake up from the programming, like we did in the 1960's revolution. | Feb 25 08:11 |
| msb | Cannabis helped a whole lot. | Feb 25 08:11 |
| msb | It also helps to get off booze, and stop drinking fluoride. | Feb 25 08:12 |
| *MinceR gets fluoride via toothpaste :> | Feb 25 08:12 | |
| msb | Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland, which if healthy produces small amounts of DMT, which makes people imaginative and hard to control. | Feb 25 08:12 |
| msb | fluoride is in toothpaste and most tapwater. | Feb 25 08:13 |
| MinceR | afaik it's not in most tap water outside the US :> | Feb 25 08:13 |
| msb | You can get a distiller for about $160, which makes distilled water for about 40 cents/gallon for the electricity. | Feb 25 08:14 |
| msb | That's good. The US is the center of world fascism. | Feb 25 08:14 |
| msb | Then I add CaCO3 and MgCO3 to the distilled water. Otherwise it slowly dissolves your teeth. | Feb 25 08:14 |
| msb | Fluoride was put in the water in nazi and stalinist prison camps in WWII to make prisoners docile. | Feb 25 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | RMS sent a reply to one of my emails. | Feb 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | I sent him a link to a story about Comcast making that deal with Netflix. | Feb 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix pays Comcast money to stop throttling their traffic. | Feb 25 08:16 |
| msb | Yeah, horrible. | Feb 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks. | Feb 25 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, Netflix is utterly horrible, and ought to be illegal | Feb 25 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | (since all DRM should be illegal). I agree that Comcast should not | Feb 25 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | be allowed to bully anyone, but we should never mention Netflix | Feb 25 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | without condemning it. | Feb 25 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. | Feb 25 08:17 |
| msb | The decision that non-neutrality is ok because people can always choose another isp is bullshit. | Feb 25 08:18 |
| msb | Here in SF bay area we have Comcrap and ATT and that's all. | Feb 25 08:18 |
| msb | If both start throttling or banning things they don't like, we're fucked. And this is "Silicon Valley"! | Feb 25 08:19 |
| MinceR | msb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fluoridated-water-extent-world.svg | Feb 25 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Fluoridated-water-extent-world.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gp0tn ] | Feb 25 08:19 | |
| msb | Or at least it was until most of the jobs went to India. | Feb 25 08:19 |
| msb | MinceR: Great map! Thanks! | Feb 25 08:20 |
| MinceR | np | Feb 25 08:21 |
| msb | Looks like Israel is fluoridated. The second center of world fascism. | Feb 25 08:21 |
| MinceR | also, australia, new zealand and ireland :> | Feb 25 08:22 |
| msb | and Canada | Feb 25 08:23 |
| msb | We're also getting aluminum oxide raining down from the sky from chemtrails. There's no doubt. The govt has patents to do it. | Feb 25 08:26 |
| msb | The nano-sized particles are inhaled, go to the brain, and cause Alzheimer's disease. | Feb 25 08:26 |
| msb | This has been known since the 1990s, when a bunch of kidney patients were dialized using high-aluminum tapwater, and all go t alzheimer's. | Feb 25 08:27 |
| msb | The GMO food also sterilizes test animals or gives them huge cancers in 3 generations. | Feb 25 08:28 |
| msb | The fascists/psychopaths are poisoning our air, food and water. | Feb 25 08:29 |
| msb | People have analyzed what comes down from the air. | Feb 25 08:30 |
| msb | and after major chemtrailing, rain puddles are whitish from Al2O3 | Feb 25 08:30 |
| msb | The vaccines contain mercury and aluminum. | Feb 25 08:31 |
| msb | Mercury, fluorine, and aluminum are all major neurotoxins and they are in the air, food, water, and pharmaceuticals. | Feb 25 08:32 |
| msb | Tbe fascists are doing a War Against Socialism, War Against Consciousness (anti-cannabis, etc, pro-fluoride), and War Against False-Flag Terrorism. | Feb 25 08:37 |
| msb | The Nazis that just took over Ukraine were supported by the US, including Hillary Clinton, who is a neocon. | Feb 25 08:38 |
| msb | The Al-qaeda that are actually the "Syrian dissidents" are supported and armed by the US. | Feb 25 08:39 |
| msb | Anyone listening, or are you dismissing me as a nut? | Feb 25 08:39 |
| msb | BTW, fluoride is sprayed on some fruits and vegetables to kill bugs. | Feb 25 08:44 |
| msb | fuck, I'm talking to about 2 people here, if any. I have to put all this on my website. | Feb 25 08:44 |
| msb | http://aircrap.org | Feb 25 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-aircrap.org | AirCrap.org | Monitoring the Planned Poisoning of Humanity | Feb 25 08:48 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.popsci.com/article/science/why-fake-snow-doesnt-melt-because-its-real | Feb 25 09:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popsci.com | Why 'Fake' Snow 'Doesn't Melt'--Because It's Real | Popular Science [ http://ur1.ca/gp1cl ] | Feb 25 09:41 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx1K9JEWWZ57I3N | Feb 25 10:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Walmart is being hoisted by its own petard. [ http://ur1.ca/gp1j1 ] | Feb 25 10:14 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/24/1279989/-No-one-wants-to-drive-out-to-Wal-Mart-stores-anymore | Feb 25 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailykos.com | No one wants to drive out to Walmart stores anymore [ http://ur1.ca/gp1j3 ] | Feb 25 10:15 | |
| DaemonFC | Same store sales growth has turned negative again in the worst comp since the recession. | Feb 25 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | CNBC is now suggesting that Walmart should start closing stores in the United States, beginning with their 100 least profitable ones. | Feb 25 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | To quote the Daily Kos article: | Feb 25 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | "Walmart helped create the low-wage economy and GOP-style anti-government corporatism that is now, ironically, biting it in its ass. But there's more to the retailer's problems than austerity cuts. Fact is, its business model is increasingly an anachronism." | Feb 25 10:15 |
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| msb | Yes, real snow behaves as in the popsci article. But some fake snow doesn't melt after hours at room temperature, and has fibers in it, or so some say. You can't discount everything from a news site just because it has some errors. | Feb 25 11:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Being Against Crime is Not Being Zealous http://t.co/UEFo9iF6d1 #microsoft #ooxml #odf #theregister | Feb 25 15:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Response to ODF as Government Standard Proposal http://t.co/lHMQpja1C7 #microsoft #ooxml #odf #uk | Feb 25 15:53 | |
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| schestowitz_log_ | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/piers-morgan-sacked-from-cnn-twitter-rejoices-as-its-biggest-alist-troll-gets-the-axe-9151961.html | Feb 25 16:31 |
| schestowitz_log_ | "The thing is, when you spend the majority of your social media life terrorising footballers (ask Rio Ferdinand, Gary Lineker and Wayne Rooney for details), starting feuds with other TV personalities (Jeremy Clarkson, Lord Sugar) and slamming transgender activists (Janet Mock), you tend to get a reputation for being a bit of a troll." | Feb 25 16:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Piers Morgan sacked from CNN: Just how much does Twitter hate its biggest A-list troll? - News - People - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/gp3zo ] | Feb 25 16:31 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.seacoastonline.com | Hampton set to rethink ‘NSA-like’ IT policy | SeacoastOnline.com [ http://ur1.ca/gp48g ] | Feb 25 17:01 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NSA-dodging undersea cable to connect Brazil and EU http://t.co/8cfQQ2Jjqv #eu #samerica | Feb 25 17:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Wow, Zuckerface is so hardcore. #nsa is "not awesome.” Just "Good"? http://t.co/Iuj8PpNY4M #facebook #surveillance profiling | Feb 25 17:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Coverage about #android powered #privacy respecting phone http://t.co/eOPOTTBfQ0 phone and Android/Google not compatible w/ privacy | Feb 25 17:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #privacy proponents just shouldn't use mobile phones http://t.co/oGL1Xk7PCm http://t.co/mus64xIXSH http://t.co/zLYXW68cVf | Feb 25 17:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Think your data is safe in an EU cloud? The NSA will raid your servers http://t.co/y8JlQADcZT don't use "clouds", ever | Feb 25 17:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Murdoch's WS-oriented WSJ props up the FBI's Mike Rogers http://t.co/BQVdkaoKeS the bogus debate about who, not if | Feb 25 17:05 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New #Snowden Doc Reveals How GCHQ/NSA Use The Internet To 'Manipulate, Deceive And Destroy Reputations' http://t.co/D3uGDyTUwB state trolls | Feb 25 17:05 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #gchq tactic: “Set up a honey-trap,” “Change their photos on social networking sites..." http://t.co/46D4t7tIWR "not awesome.” | Feb 25 17:05 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Layton lawmaker's bill held up because it includes tax break for NSA facility http://t.co/62WGhHg0Pw #nsa - no impunity, no tax | Feb 25 17:05 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Letter: Between #Snowden and NSA, who's the real criminal? http://t.co/1ij7O4VJYo the press which covered it up, not covered it? | Feb 25 17:06 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why #NSA Spying On The German Chancellor's Aides Matters http://t.co/Jst9L7w972 #coldwar #politics | Feb 25 17:06 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In the same sense/way that many bosses use browsing history as excuse for firing unwanted employees, NSA uses it to fire at unwanted people | Feb 25 17:06 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438361038531342338 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438361463758282752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438362046410014721 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438363027994574848 | Feb 25 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is the #CIA Better Than the Military at Drone Killings? http://t.co/zDqSjauO9n #droNSA is covertly picking "targets" | Feb 25 17:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: U.S., Russia at Odds over Legitimacy in Ukraine http://t.co/ZLt8Kd6O5p two superpowers vying for control under misleading banners | Feb 25 17:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Advocates His Death Warrant http://t.co/kk4dHcAbCb "Obama is notorious for threats to other sovereign leaders" | Feb 25 17:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: IBM gobbles CIA-backed NoSQL database upstart #Cloudant http://t.co/lrWLuiy0cI #ibm also pursued the #cia contract #amazon got | Feb 25 17:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Abduction and torture by #cia in #europe now approved http://t.co/K4PvpKWH3R how low can we go on human rights? | Feb 25 17:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The only #cia man who is in prison over #torture is the man who blew the whistle on illegal CIA torture. | Feb 25 17:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #CIA chief made secret trip to #Pakistan http://t.co/c3tKKTse7O checking the "targets" | Feb 25 17:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Letting a nation use its army to kill its own citizens rather than bombing them covertly http://t.co/x8bUODspsk | Feb 25 17:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 'Amazon-CIA deal “has cranked up the basis for massive abuse.”' http://t.co/ruH73sCjje #cia #amazon | Feb 25 17:34 | |
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| schestowitz_log_ | http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/25/world/americas/in-venezuela-middle-class-joins-protests.html?_r=0 | Feb 25 17:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gp4il ] | Feb 25 17:38 | |
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| schestowitz_log_ | "yours dont ask why poor people barrios and places dont are participing in supose strike againt goverment? the internal and international media LIES!!the richiest neighborhood are in strike and protesting ,they are same people who try shut off president hugo chavez by leaders like leopoldo lopez who was a mayors in baruta and capriles also mayor in chacao ,same neighborhood are protesting today ,just the richiest people are prote | Feb 25 17:39 |
| schestowitz_log_ | sting and studients of private university who get paid of U.S.A.I.D by U.S.A GOVERMENT,and others industrial owners in venezuela !! all this people is financial by united state ,the only reason they wanna PETROLEUM FREE!!!" | Feb 25 17:39 |
| schestowitz_log_ | "I think the entirety of your post lacks of actual facts and makes it totally biased. Sure the article might be one-sided but there is a reason behind it: government officials constantly avoid any kind of international public interaction with newspapers like this one, or even CNN. Having said that, I think everybody can agree that the reason that Maduro got to be a president was due the reason Chavez left him as designee. Plain a | Feb 25 17:41 |
| schestowitz_log_ | nd simple. Chavez even though wasn't the best president that pass through Venezuela, he was a leader. | Feb 25 17:41 |
| schestowitz_log_ | My point being is that you cannot say that the students are the ones that the students attacked the police. That is absolutely not true and I challenge you to prove me wrong. There are videos, photos and declarations of what is going on. It is dumb to even mention that it is because of the CIA supporting Leopoldo which has no based and simply not true. | Feb 25 17:41 |
| schestowitz_log_ | I respect people from both sides as long as their comments are not biased. The fact that your comment did not criticized the clear and evident excess of force from the national guards and the police I think makes everything you just said not valid. You are just another biased Chavez supporter who is not willing to see the entire picture. | Feb 25 17:41 |
| schestowitz_log_ | Lastly: 13 deaths and you are simply criticizing the CIA, Leopoldo and The New York Times. I think there is something wrong with this." | Feb 25 17:41 |
| schestowitz_log_ | "If the mainstream media focused the same scrutiny on our allies around the globe as it does our official enemies, people in the USA might understand what's going on in the southern cone of South America and the world. | Feb 25 17:43 |
| schestowitz_log_ | The usual pattern emerges: a govt that succeeds in improving the lot of the poor (as Venezuela has, indisputably), or even a attempts to (as Haiti tried over the last two decades - until the US helped kidnap the democratically elected leader) becomes the object of scorn. | Feb 25 17:43 |
| schestowitz_log_ | A country that overthrows a democratically elected populist (as Honduras did) becomes the recipient of increased US aid - and very little scrutiny by the media." | Feb 25 17:43 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/02/four-days-in-and-still-no-patch-for-os-x-critical-goto-fail-bug/ | Feb 25 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Four days in and still no patch for critical “goto fail” bug in OS X | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gp4no ] | Feb 25 17:58 | |
| Sosumi | I've always said that apple was lax with security | Feb 25 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3683670 | Feb 25 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #linux #android f... | Feb 25 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "How Android can protect your privacy ? seriously ? Android is Google ... And Google is one of Big Bros.... And Android has backdoors." | Feb 25 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: if you have nothing below the belt, then you have nothing to hide | Feb 25 18:10 |
| schestowitz | "^ This is precisely why I don't use stock ROMs in any of my devices. As the saying goes, "better the devil you know"." | Feb 25 18:10 |
| schestowitz | "I have a Nokia N900 with Maemo (Debian Based) managed by the community. apparently no backdoors" | Feb 25 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688095 | Feb 25 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Response to ODF a... | Feb 25 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | "Are there any tools that read - write the full OOXML standard?" | Feb 25 18:11 |
| schestowitz | ECMA OOXML? Not even MS Office (no version). | Feb 25 18:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3687467 | Feb 25 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Tuxmachines is ba... | Feb 25 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | "Tuxmachines is back http://mrpogson.com/2014/02/24/wow-tux-machines-is-baaccckkkk/ thanks to <a data-hovercard='/people/da68a1f811b0f71e' href="/u/schestowitz" class='mention hovercardable' >Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)</a> :) #linux #opensource" | Feb 25 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Wow! Tux Machines IS BAACCCKKKK! | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gotwg ] | Feb 25 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3685447 | Feb 25 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | How #Mozilla Thin... | Feb 25 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | "samsung is backing tizen and Bq is backing ubuntu - fyi. but is it not true that chrome is belting firefox in the browser war? shoudn't be surprised if google did walk away from mozilla." | Feb 25 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Google is willing to pay only less | Feb 25 18:13 |
| schestowitz | "Last I heard, Firefox was beating out Chrome in the numbers. Not by a lot, but still ahead. There was a period where Chrome was growing much faster, and then they just edged out Firefox, but then they dropped and Firefox took a small lead and it's been that way ever since, iirc." | Feb 25 18:13 |
| Sosumi | I have something better than that | Feb 25 18:14 |
| Sosumi | pigeon post | Feb 25 18:15 |
| Sosumi | guaranteed of no backdoors | Feb 25 18:15 |
| Sosumi | literally | Feb 25 18:15 |
| Sosumi | unless someone shoots down the bird | Feb 25 18:15 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 25 18:16 |
| Sosumi | but the issue is with OSX | Feb 25 18:16 |
| Sosumi | while maemo might have been okish | Feb 25 18:17 |
| Sosumi | it doesn't beat a nice laptop with a 3g modem | Feb 25 18:18 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jumpwah/status/438347111889768448 | Feb 25 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jumpwah: @schestowitz "long term preservation of their data", imo is essential. There is simply no argument for OOXML. | Feb 25 18:23 | |
| schestowitz | @jumpwah unless you work for Microsoft and have a mortgage to pay | Feb 25 18:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Nyssen11/status/438321852830973952 | Feb 25 18:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nyssen11: @schestowitz Tizen is a Linux Foundation OS :) | Feb 25 18:24 | |
| schestowitz | Managed by Samsung now | Feb 25 18:24 |
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| MinceR | better than nokia or intel | Feb 25 18:52 |
| MinceR | nokia is a m$ puppet and intel never cared | Feb 25 18:53 |
| Sosumi | fix is out on a service pack just released | Feb 25 19:06 |
| Sosumi | nokia is a MS puppet now | Feb 25 19:06 |
| Sosumi | back then they used to have some of the best phones | Feb 25 19:07 |
| gde33 | that is how the tech era ends | Feb 25 19:08 |
| Sosumi | and with intel there's no alternative to them now on the desktop front | Feb 25 19:08 |
| gde33 | big names buy everything and stomp it until no one wants it anymore while there isn't any alternative | Feb 25 19:08 |
| Sosumi | sparc? power? amd (lol) | Feb 25 19:09 |
| Sosumi | no | Feb 25 19:09 |
| gde33 | it is like the biblical stories about all the knowledge being preserved by 4 guys who died that day lol | Feb 25 19:09 |
| Sosumi | that is called anti-competition | Feb 25 19:09 |
| Sosumi | couple with monopolization | Feb 25 19:10 |
| Sosumi | *coupled | Feb 25 19:10 |
| MinceR | yeah, back when they made the n900 | Feb 25 19:11 |
| MinceR | which was ages ago | Feb 25 19:11 |
| Sosumi | back in 2008 | Feb 25 19:12 |
| Sosumi | before the iphone 3g | Feb 25 19:12 |
| Sosumi | but since I've never used one | Feb 25 19:13 |
| Sosumi | I can't tell if apple copied anything from maemo | Feb 25 19:13 |
| MinceR | what i know is that samsung did the things first for which crApple sued them | Feb 25 19:14 |
| Sosumi | no idea, all I know is that both galaxy phones and the original iphones looked like crap | Feb 25 19:15 |
| Sosumi | these later versions actually look nice | Feb 25 19:15 |
| Sosumi | but kind of can't beat the looks of the htc one | Feb 25 19:15 |
| MinceR | i prefer the looks of the galaxy nexus | Feb 25 19:16 |
| Sosumi | it is all plastic | Feb 25 19:16 |
| MinceR | no, it's not | Feb 25 19:16 |
| MinceR | and even if it was, what does it matter | Feb 25 19:16 |
| Sosumi | plastic with a glass cover? | Feb 25 19:18 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Feb 25 19:18 |
| Sosumi | it does matter, when manufacturers are trowing 5 inches more screens on those things | Feb 25 19:18 |
| Sosumi | the risk of cracking the screen due to some pressure becomes much higher | Feb 25 19:19 |
| Sosumi | the metal makes sure the phone frame doesn't twist | Feb 25 19:19 |
| Sosumi | and it'd look much better than the chromed plastic on the galaxy note or galaxy s4 | Feb 25 19:20 |
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| Sosumi | so for me, htc one wins when it comes to durability | Feb 25 19:20 |
| Sosumi | and if crapple ends up trowing a sapphire glass into the iphone | Feb 25 19:21 |
| Sosumi | they'll also have a very sturdy phone | Feb 25 19:21 |
| MinceR | crApple has a very sturdy phone because nothing you do to it can decrease its functionality | Feb 25 19:22 |
| MinceR | as it starts with none | Feb 25 19:22 |
| MinceR | as for the metal making the phone tougher -- it would be nice to see drop tests confirm that :> | Feb 25 19:22 |
| synchris | even chinese companies make more durable phones see for ex. oppo finder 5 | Feb 25 19:22 |
| Sosumi | I meant it has resisting twists and pressure without cracking the screen | Feb 25 19:23 |
| MinceR | a chinese company makes the hypePhone | Feb 25 19:23 |
| Sosumi | the metal frame will always be better than plastic | Feb 25 19:23 |
| MinceR | and HTC is also based in the republic of china | Feb 25 19:23 |
| synchris | ... | Feb 25 19:24 |
| Sosumi | now if you want a phone without decreased functionality | Feb 25 19:24 |
| Sosumi | there's the nexus 5 | Feb 25 19:24 |
| synchris | if u consider Lenovo chinese for example... | Feb 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | you don't? | Feb 25 19:24 |
| synchris | eh i dont | Feb 25 19:24 |
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| Sosumi | I don't need a phone | Feb 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: well, i like the nexus 5 but not for the look | Feb 25 19:24 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | though maybe i'd like it more if i saw it (not just on pictures) | Feb 25 19:25 |
| MinceR | i don't know how well its minimal aesthetics work | Feb 25 19:25 |
| MinceR | hay sebsebseb | Feb 25 19:25 |
| MinceR | then again, i don't choose phones for the looks anyway :> | Feb 25 19:25 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: hi | Feb 25 19:26 |
| gde33 | we shuold develop a phone for efficient spying | Feb 25 19:31 |
| MinceR | crApple already did that | Feb 25 19:31 |
| MinceR | and so did m$ | Feb 25 19:31 |
| gde33 | send the data straight to the nsa and/or keep it on a server for them depending on their choices | Feb 25 19:31 |
| MinceR | already done | Feb 25 19:32 |
| MinceR | in fact, the functionality can be added to many phones via skype | Feb 25 19:32 |
| gde33 | they already have it but they dont route the packages efficently, in a transparent way | Feb 25 19:32 |
| MinceR | or you could just call and text and let the telco log everything | Feb 25 19:33 |
| MinceR | or use cleartext messaging | Feb 25 19:33 |
| gde33 | forced cleartext | Feb 25 19:33 |
| MinceR | a closed messaging system that doesn't implement encryption | Feb 25 19:34 |
| MinceR | does whatsapp have encryption, for example? | Feb 25 19:35 |
| gde33 | the nudist protocol | Feb 25 19:35 |
| MinceR | also, you could send messages through dumbFuckBook, that too is a direct line to the nsa | Feb 25 19:35 |
| Sosumi | and so did google | Feb 25 19:36 |
| gde33 | I find it easy to have complex ideas but it quickly gets to vague to explain. Success seems to depend on how easy something can be understood. | Feb 25 19:41 |
| gde33 | The trick is to come up with something supper complex that can be understood easily | Feb 25 19:41 |
| gde33 | My best one so far was to create a network of internet people who just agree to -in the future- look at something if at least 100 000 people signed a petition for the something. | Feb 25 19:44 |
| gde33 | you sign up, nothing happens, but eventually generic topics can be brought to the table if there are enough people interested in bringing the topic to the attention. | Feb 25 19:45 |
| gde33 | a plan has to identify a problem, propose a solution, try measure how much work it requires and/or try to put a price tag on it | Feb 25 19:48 |
| gde33 | have the spec for the spec | Feb 25 19:49 |
| MinceR | what is people's basis on which to decide whether to sign? | Feb 25 19:53 |
| Sosumi | wait | Feb 25 19:54 |
| Sosumi | would you rely on the same kind of people that voted Obama in, twice, to make such decisions? | Feb 25 19:55 |
| Sosumi | since your typical ihpone buyer belongs to that demographic | Feb 25 19:56 |
| MinceR | are you saying that the hypePhone is less bad than Obomber? :> | Feb 25 19:56 |
| MinceR | (i haven't even thought of comparing them yet) | Feb 25 19:56 |
| Sosumi | no, I'm saying that you just can't rely on dumb animals to make decisions | Feb 25 19:57 |
| Sosumi | specially, decisions that affect you | Feb 25 19:57 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 25 19:58 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, there's no other option | Feb 25 19:58 |
| Sosumi | or me, personally or the tools that need | Feb 25 19:58 |
| Sosumi | *I | Feb 25 19:58 |
| Sosumi | or might end up needing | Feb 25 19:58 |
| Sosumi | mob rule doesn't work when all the mob does is parrot back what they hear or read | Feb 25 19:59 |
| Sosumi | from the "trusted" news sources without putting some thought into it | Feb 25 19:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3685447 | Feb 25 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | How #Mozilla Thin... | Feb 25 20:00 | |
| schestowitz | "I need to confirm sources, but I heard that this time around that it's not just that Firefox is up for it's renewal of the deal, but basically that they'd been told that it was over as of September. I haven't done much research to check this though." | Feb 25 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/02/why-should-ukraine-not-split/ | Feb 25 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Why Should Ukraine Not Split? [ http://ur1.ca/gp5ox ] | Feb 25 21:03 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438410315546787840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438410949792636928 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438411549041238016 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438412825556705280 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438419279659425793 | Feb 25 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #zdnet is very strong poison. #android devices are now covered by former #microsoft employees there, now pretending to be journalists | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 8 Things We Expect from Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) http://t.co/hmE2zvn1vS #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.junauza.com | 8 Things We Expect from Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) | TechSource | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google http://t.co/1n2RO9HTZP | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Abuses of Rights: News About Surveillance, Torture, and Assassination http://t.co/up5l5CEto4 #technology plays major role here | Feb 25 21:19 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Fedora 21's Schedule Is Closer To Being Figured Out http://t.co/sOHlnYVlGH #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Fedora 21's Schedule Is Closer To Being Figured Out | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438419379211210752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438419631108542464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438420684143095808 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438421138969210881 | Feb 25 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Today in #Techrights http://t.co/yIy6J5dX9s | Feb 25 21:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 25 21:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Qt5 To Most Likely Stick With Time-Based Released http://t.co/cro3ur631R #qt5 #qt #kde | Feb 25 21:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Qt5 To Most Likely Stick With Time-Based Released | Feb 25 21:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tizen Smartwatches Tip Samsung's Ecosystem-First Strategy http://t.co/1iLBgYWhTB #tizen #linux | Feb 25 21:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Tizen Smartwatches Tip Samsung's Ecosystem-First Strategy | Linux.com | Feb 25 21:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Sony launches #Xperia Z2 tablet at #MWC14 http://t.co/6Xy2TYZtPG #sony dumped #windows #vaio and now a #linux backer | Feb 25 21:20 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438423900939358208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438427933951410177 | Feb 25 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: My Comments as Posted to the UK Cabinet Office Standards Hub (now it's your turn) http://t.co/Ex5pify6HW Andy Updegrove. #odf #uk | Feb 25 21:41 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: War on the poor, not on poverty http://t.co/QsD7zadZA4 the #billgates approach | Feb 25 21:41 | |
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| gde33 | yeah http://userstyles.org/styles/63613/duckduckgo-rms-style | Feb 25 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-userstyles.org | Duckduckgo RMS STYLE - Themes and Skins for Duckduckgo - userstyles.org [ http://ur1.ca/gp5y4 ] | Feb 25 21:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX8K9Yb6ZwA | Feb 25 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 'La-La Land': 'EU doesn't have political capital to spend on Ukraine' - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gp5z0 ] | Feb 25 21:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438430312474103809 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438430835080171521 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438433817901432834 | Feb 25 22:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: MakerBot's Creative Revolution Runs on Linux http://t.co/hUOUExgoTU #makerbot #linux | Feb 25 22:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | MakerBot's Creative Revolution Runs on Linux | Linux.com | Feb 25 22:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Galaxy S5 revealed in all its glory — launches in April http://t.co/qpTgMbuTF4 #android #linux | Feb 25 22:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Galaxy S5 revealed in all its glory -- launches in April | Muktware | Feb 25 22:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Bullies https://t.co/KnoeHRPHId | Feb 25 22:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438434454231855105 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438438782426419200 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438438905948672000 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438439367124979713 | Feb 25 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Theft https://t.co/1jzXMSf7NC | Feb 25 22:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: HTC announces Desire 816 and 610 at MWC14 http://t.co/zhUHWtAtE2 #htc #android #linux | Feb 25 22:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | HTC announces Desire 816 and 610 at MWC14 | Muktware | Feb 25 22:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "IBM believes it's making a safe bet by opening its middleware stack to its SoftLayer Platform-as-a-Service" http://t.co/dFJx4hDIa9 | Feb 25 22:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | IBM places billion dollar bet on BlueMix PaaS cloud | ZDNet | Feb 25 22:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "installing Ubuntu, or any distro for that matter' http://t.co/D2r3I9MznX so just say #gnu #linux and not headline bait | Feb 25 22:27 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689777 | Feb 25 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Feb 25 22:41 | |
| schestowitz | "It's like they're reading my mind..." | Feb 25 22:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689569 | Feb 25 22:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Sony launches #Xp... | Feb 25 22:42 | |
| schestowitz | "Sony should have launched a PSP tablet for remote play on the PS4 and for playing Vita games. Another missed opportunity." | Feb 25 22:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438445200755924992 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438446640698232832 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438446899889463296 | Feb 25 22:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #prism exempt #whatsup like apps http://t.co/LAK1X4vZzM | Feb 25 22:57 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Can You Survive on a Chromebook Alone? http://t.co/ITn5UIyq7f #google #gnu | Feb 25 22:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.maximumpc.com | Can You Survive on a Chromebook Alone? | Maximum PC | Feb 25 22:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A look at Tanglu 1.0 'Aequorea Victoria' GNOME http://t.co/5QWwHmYI44 #gnome #debian #linux | Feb 25 22:57 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Nyssen11/status/438534967912833025 | Feb 26 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nyssen11: @schestowitz Managed by the Tizen Association http://t.co/dULCJpzUkN | Feb 26 06:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tizenassociation.org | Tizen Association - | Feb 26 06:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689438 | Feb 26 06:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Stencyl 3.0 Relea... | Feb 26 06:22 | |
| schestowitz | '...or you could use GooCreate which is: Free as in beer for open projects Not distro or os specific Exports to HTML5+JS rather than outdated and proprietary flash format Is just as happy making 3d games as 2d Has a pleasant and modern UI while still also being able to make code free games The only downside is that both Stencyl and GooCreate are proprietary. I really wish that the Gluon project had ended up going more in this direction | Feb 26 06:22 |
| schestowitz | and had survived. Still, until then, GooCreate lets people create FOSS projects using HTML 5 for all platforms for free." | Feb 26 06:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688295 | Feb 26 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Privatising #pris... | Feb 26 06:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688295 | Feb 26 06:24 |
| schestowitz | <blockquote>“You can become your own mini-NSA,” Event Zero C.E.O. David Tucker said. “Just make sure it doesn’t end up on WikiLeaks.”</blockquote> | Feb 26 06:24 |
| schestowitz | Goes better with Sharepoint. | Feb 26 06:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 26 06:24 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688216 | Feb 26 06:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Wow, Zuckerface i... | Feb 26 06:24 | |
| schestowitz | "Why should he care. The IPO is over and he's got his money."" | Feb 26 06:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux snapshot: Pay rates and employers with | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the most job ads http://t.co/fOEcNNnWmd | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0t | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rikomagic MK902 LE is an ARM-based Linux PC | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5v4rSU6sXu | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0u | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hello, MS-Android. Good-bye, Windows Phone | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/owYFsWZAgW | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0v | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Reven meets Kickstarter Goal, headed for Linux | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KqT7v2momT | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0w | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux-based platform aims to speed M2M | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | development http://t.co/aPdgv87skW | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0x | Feb 26 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux snapshot: Pay rates and employers with the most job ads | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rikomagic MK902 LE is an ARM-based Linux PC | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hello, MS-Android. Good-bye, Windows Phone | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Reven meets Kickstarter Goal, headed for Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based platform aims to speed M2M development | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Press Talks Up Major Open-Source Linux | Feb 26 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver Features http://t.co/B6TnJtdDR2 | Feb 26 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpac5 | Feb 26 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Press Talks Up Major Open-Source Linux Driver Features | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:53 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Feb 26 09:42 |
| DaemonFC | I think that the Microsoft Android is going to be their replacement for Windows Phone. | Feb 26 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | Within the next year, they'll probably announce that Windows Phone is being phased out. | Feb 26 09:44 |
| MinceR | if they can make it suck enough, it can be! | Feb 26 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure it's an improvement over Windows Phone if they have access to Android apps. | Feb 26 09:47 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't buy one. | Feb 26 09:47 |
| MinceR | if. | Feb 26 09:47 |
| MinceR | m$'s goal is probably to make android look bad | Feb 26 09:48 |
| MinceR | well, their ui already looks horrendous, so that's partly done | Feb 26 09:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/Tjwox3Fnlc | Feb 26 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpaub | Feb 26 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Feb 26 10:19 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1294192/What-fizzy-drinks-makes-addictive.html | Feb 26 10:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | What is it about fizzy drinks that makes them so addictive? | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gpav1 ] | Feb 26 10:22 | |
| DaemonFC | "Lisa McKay used to drink 20 cans of Coke a day" | Feb 26 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | eww | Feb 26 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | Even drinking 1-2 cans a day is not good for you. | Feb 26 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | empty calories | Feb 26 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | not good for your teeth or bones | Feb 26 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | or pancreas | Feb 26 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | or anything, really | Feb 26 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 14.04 LTS Now in Feature Freeze | Feb 26 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/32OeLabk2x | Feb 26 11:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpb5c | Feb 26 11:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 14.04 LTS Now in Feature Freeze | Tux Machines | Feb 26 11:02 | |
| *Sosumi (~Lain@a95-94-209-76.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights | Feb 26 11:31 | |
| Sosumi | best news ever | Feb 26 11:31 |
| Sosumi | http://www.anandtech.com/show/7817/elop-to-lead-devices-and-studios-at-microsoft-this-means-xbox | Feb 26 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | Elop to Lead Devices and Studios at Microsoft: This Means Xbox [ http://ur1.ca/gpbfi ] | Feb 26 11:31 | |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 26 11:31 |
| Sosumi | the guy that wanted to kill the xbox and other hardware | Feb 26 11:32 |
| Sosumi | is going to head that division | Feb 26 11:32 |
| Sosumi | uberwin | Feb 26 11:32 |
| Sosumi | hope he succeeds | Feb 26 11:33 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 26 11:33 |
| MinceR | so do i | Feb 26 11:33 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile in the land of the setting sun | Feb 26 11:34 |
| Sosumi | crapple and its new CEO are still having trouble shipping the trashcans | Feb 26 11:35 |
| Sosumi | it's like they don't want to sell them | Feb 26 11:35 |
| Sosumi | but it is ok | Feb 26 11:36 |
| Sosumi | back when the powermac cube | Feb 26 11:36 |
| Sosumi | they had a huge demand at the beginning | Feb 26 11:36 |
| Sosumi | but then it died out | Feb 26 11:36 |
| Sosumi | as most of the ppl buying the cube were doing so for the design | Feb 26 11:37 |
| Sosumi | and I see the same repeating with the trashcan pro | Feb 26 11:37 |
| Sosumi | but the problem this time is that they're not meeting the initial demand | Feb 26 11:38 |
| Sosumi | meaning | Feb 26 11:38 |
| Sosumi | the next time they refresh | Feb 26 11:38 |
| Sosumi | they'll probably overstock in order to prevent delays | Feb 26 11:38 |
| Sosumi | but now given that the initial demand is gone and so are the typical mac pro users | Feb 26 11:39 |
| MinceR | what happened to them? | Feb 26 11:39 |
| MinceR | moved to hypePads? | Feb 26 11:39 |
| Sosumi | they'll be sitting on a couple of trashcans that don't sell | Feb 26 11:39 |
| Sosumi | no | Feb 26 11:39 |
| Sosumi | moved to hp Z workstations, dell precisions and so on | Feb 26 11:40 |
| MinceR | strange | Feb 26 11:40 |
| Sosumi | why? | Feb 26 11:40 |
| MinceR | because those don't have the logo they covet :> | Feb 26 11:40 |
| Sosumi | they do the job in order to pay the bills | Feb 26 11:40 |
| Sosumi | I think that is what matters in the end | Feb 26 11:41 |
| Sosumi | plus | Feb 26 11:41 |
| MinceR | yes, to you and me | Feb 26 11:41 |
| Sosumi | they run exactly the same software, better | Feb 26 11:41 |
| MinceR | but we're not typical crApple users | Feb 26 11:41 |
| Sosumi | the typical crapple user didn't buy towers like the mac pro | Feb 26 11:42 |
| Sosumi | they bought laptops or the imacs | Feb 26 11:43 |
| Sosumi | just picture yourself as a mactard | Feb 26 11:43 |
| Sosumi | and then look at the clutter of cables and the need to open the mac pro cover in order to pull in hdd/ssd, cards, etc | Feb 26 11:44 |
| Sosumi | way too many options | Feb 26 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.9 review – KDE and Xfce desktops | Feb 26 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/s8e05MEtAJ | Feb 26 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpbjn | Feb 26 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Different strokes for different folks when it | Feb 26 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | comes to Linux desktops http://t.co/AC3yGJpHBI | Feb 26 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpbjp | Feb 26 11:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 0.8.9 review – KDE and Xfce desktops | Tux Machines | Feb 26 11:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Different strokes for different folks when it comes to Linux desktops | Tux Machines | Feb 26 11:45 | |
| Sosumi | mactards like "clean", minimalistic, kewl looking craps | Feb 26 11:45 |
| Sosumi | neither the mac pro tower nor the xserve, alongside the supporting software fitted that new paradigm crapple is following now | Feb 26 11:47 |
| Sosumi | nor was crapple anymore keeping up with windows and gnu/linux alternatives | Feb 26 11:47 |
| Sosumi | so everyone that actually needed those things | Feb 26 11:47 |
| Sosumi | bailed out | Feb 26 11:48 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 26 11:48 |
| MinceR | nobody but a mactard would want a crApple product | Feb 26 11:48 |
| MinceR | overpriced garbage with no customization, no flexibility and an idiot-oriented stupid OS | Feb 26 11:49 |
| MinceR | and often low quality | Feb 26 11:49 |
| Sosumi | I have to disagree on that front | Feb 26 11:49 |
| Sosumi | their offerings up to 2009 were quite good | Feb 26 11:50 |
| Sosumi | and I loved the educational discounts | Feb 26 11:50 |
| MinceR | then we'll just disagree :> | Feb 26 11:50 |
| MinceR | oh, also a retarded and hostile approach to their customers | Feb 26 11:50 |
| MinceR | which started with assuming that they were all idiots | Feb 26 11:51 |
| MinceR | which was a self-fulfilling prophecy :> | Feb 26 11:51 |
| Sosumi | notice that when I mention their offerings | Feb 26 11:51 |
| Sosumi | I just mean the mac pro and the xserve | Feb 26 11:51 |
| Sosumi | nothing else | Feb 26 11:51 |
| Sosumi | no overheating macbooks | Feb 26 11:52 |
| Sosumi | nor imacs nor their plastic laptops | Feb 26 11:52 |
| MinceR | or self-igniting power connectors? | Feb 26 11:52 |
| Sosumi | indeed | Feb 26 11:52 |
| MinceR | or cracked touchpads? | Feb 26 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that the Mac Mini does not support DVI anymore. | Feb 26 11:52 |
| MinceR | or displays that did not have the panels crApple claimed they did? :> | Feb 26 11:52 |
| Sosumi | their using mini display port and forcing everyone to buy an adaptor | Feb 26 11:53 |
| MinceR | or self-melting "computers" like the crApple III? :> | Feb 26 11:53 |
| Sosumi | no idea of what an apple 2 or 3 is | Feb 26 11:54 |
| MinceR | home computers | Feb 26 11:54 |
| MinceR | the apple 2 had a good reputation, and i can't really know how much that had to do with reality | Feb 26 11:54 |
| MinceR | considering that it's apple | Feb 26 11:54 |
| Sosumi | did pre nextstep acquisition apple have computers? | Feb 26 11:55 |
| MinceR | but i know that apple 3s were so crap apple had people drop them on the ground to try and reseat chips or cards | Feb 26 11:55 |
| Sosumi | I though those were fancy toasters | Feb 26 11:55 |
| MinceR | well, they had the usual idiot boxes | Feb 26 11:55 |
| MinceR | both before and after | Feb 26 11:55 |
| MinceR | i don't see a change there :> | Feb 26 11:55 |
| MinceR | and i doubt they were particularly useful as toasters either | Feb 26 11:56 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 26 11:56 |
| Sosumi | talking of the devil | Feb 26 12:07 |
| Sosumi | http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HP+Z820+Teardown/22396 | Feb 26 12:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ifixit.com | HP Z820 Teardown - iFixit [ http://ur1.ca/gpbov ] | Feb 26 12:07 | |
| MinceR | noufixit.com | Feb 26 12:09 |
| Sosumi | too bad it doesn't allow 4 dual slot cards | Feb 26 12:09 |
| Sosumi | like the high end asus boards do | Feb 26 12:09 |
| MinceR | oh, i used a similar hp box | Feb 26 12:09 |
| Sosumi | including their dual cpu model | Feb 26 12:09 |
| MinceR | at work :> | Feb 26 12:10 |
| Sosumi | we have the 2009 and 2010 revs at my university | Feb 26 12:10 |
| MinceR | but i never saw the insides | Feb 26 12:10 |
| Sosumi | and they all kind of look exactly the same | Feb 26 12:10 |
| Sosumi | the only difference with the ones we have | Feb 26 12:12 |
| Sosumi | is that the ram slots are all on top | Feb 26 12:12 |
| Sosumi | but still nice, too bad the slot displacement doesn't allow for 4 gpus/compute cards | Feb 26 12:13 |
| Sosumi | since dual cpu models allow for four 16x pcie slots | Feb 26 12:13 |
| Sosumi | foxcomm also appears to be the manufacturer or at least a part supplier | Feb 26 12:16 |
| Sosumi | http://www.asus.com/pt/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/Z9PED8_WS/ | Feb 26 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.asus.com | Servidores & Workstations - Z9PE-D8 WS [ http://ur1.ca/gpbqz ] | Feb 26 12:17 | |
| Sosumi | that one in a cosmos s2 box or the top of the line corsair box | Feb 26 12:18 |
| Sosumi | would make the ultimate workstation | Feb 26 12:18 |
| Sosumi | also the hp board is using lower grade capacitors | Feb 26 12:21 |
| Sosumi | no rubycon or nippon chemi | Feb 26 12:22 |
| Sosumi | managed to spot a capxon | Feb 26 12:22 |
| Sosumi | which is a second grade manufacturer | Feb 26 12:22 |
| Sosumi | and delta manufactured psu | Feb 26 12:51 |
| Sosumi | same has the quad g5, 2009/2010 mac pros | Feb 26 12:51 |
| Sosumi | but at least crapple was using better capacitors | Feb 26 12:51 |
| Sosumi | typically sanyo denki and nippon chemi | Feb 26 12:52 |
| Sosumi | in the end, the z800 is just manufactured to be as cheap as possible | Feb 26 12:53 |
| Sosumi | with the best way to go being custom build | Feb 26 12:53 |
| Sosumi | so far | Feb 26 12:53 |
| Sosumi | haven't seen a lenovo or dell precision inside | Feb 26 12:54 |
| Sosumi | yet | Feb 26 12:54 |
| MinceR | considering the uefi fuckup and the m$ tax, it's probably best to go with a custom build if it doesn't have to be mobile | Feb 26 13:00 |
| MinceR | (mobile as in laptop/tablet pc/tablet/phone whatever) | Feb 26 13:00 |
| Sosumi | you can get rhel instead from windows | Feb 26 13:01 |
| Sosumi | from both hp and dell | Feb 26 13:01 |
| Sosumi | no idea about lenovo | Feb 26 13:01 |
| Sosumi | also even that asus board I linked | Feb 26 13:02 |
| Sosumi | has efi | Feb 26 13:02 |
| MinceR | that can be a nice option when it's given | Feb 26 13:03 |
| MinceR | then again, i wonder if they still have the "m$ gets paid per cpu sold even if it isn't sold with winblows" racket going :> | Feb 26 13:06 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Feb 26 13:06 |
| Sosumi | but given the components used, warranties and everything | Feb 26 13:06 |
| Sosumi | I'd say custom build has the higher end | Feb 26 13:07 |
| Sosumi | *higher hand | Feb 26 13:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 30 Big Companies and Devices Running on | Feb 26 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux http://t.co/CKjVyDSwU7 | Feb 26 13:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpc6m | Feb 26 13:17 |
| msb | Sosumi: About 18 hours ago, you said "with intel there's no alternative to them now on the desktop front ... amd (lol)" Are AMD CPUs no longer a good alternative to Intel? Why not? I've always used AMD, because Intel has done various evil things. | Feb 26 13:45 |
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| msb | Sosumi: Is AMD now far behind Intel in CPU performance? | Feb 26 13:53 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3691732 | Feb 26 13:53 |
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| schestowitz | "https://joindiaspora.comManjaro Linux with the XFCE desktop it's my favorite GNU/Linux distribution. Just few times arrive I are a little conflict with the package. It's easy solve it with the terminal console, just this affraid the beginners. In french I write this article about this distribution: http://libre-city.tk/blog/?p=1089 "/posts/3691732 | Feb 26 13:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libre-city.tk | Libre-City Blog | La distribution Manjaro Linux | Feb 26 13:53 | |
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| schestowitz | Sosumi: good news about Elop depending on your POV | Feb 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz | I don't know if it's good news | Feb 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz | depends on one's assessment of what goes on with Nokia next | Feb 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz | And also: | Feb 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz | if you don't mind being proven right that he was a malicious tool | Feb 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz | For passing patents, giving the car keys to Ballmer, etc. | Feb 26 13:58 |
| Sosumi | if Elop carries on with what he was saying | Feb 26 14:07 |
| Sosumi | during the "CEO" race | Feb 26 14:07 |
| Sosumi | xbox and other gadgets will be goner | Feb 26 14:08 |
| Sosumi | and amd can hardly compete with intel now in performance | Feb 26 14:08 |
| Sosumi | their latest 15 core xeon managed to beat a power 7 in some benches | Feb 26 14:09 |
| msb | Sosumi: If I want a cpu for a desktop, and want to pay about $200 to 300 for it, how do AMD and Intel CPUs compare? | Feb 26 14:26 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core | Feb 26 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cpubenchmark.net | PassMark CPU Lookup [ http://ur1.ca/gpclw ] | Feb 26 14:30 | |
| Sosumi | at low end amd wins | Feb 26 14:30 |
| msb | Sosumi: I want (almost) the best performance per price at the $2-300 level, but if the AMD is 10% slower than the Intel I'd still choose intel. | Feb 26 14:30 |
| msb | Sosumi: I want (almost) the best performance per price at the $2-300 level, but if the AMD is 10% slower than the Intel I'd still choose AMD. | Feb 26 14:30 |
| msb | Sosumi: Great! Many thanks! | Feb 26 14:34 |
| Sosumi | for what? | Feb 26 14:34 |
| msb | For this info | Feb 26 14:34 |
| msb | Wow, 8 cores. I can rule the world! | Feb 26 14:34 |
| Sosumi | lol | Feb 26 14:35 |
| Sosumi | also the fx-9590 | Feb 26 14:37 |
| Sosumi | haven't seen that on sale anywhere | Feb 26 14:37 |
| MinceR | no ARM cores listed :/ | Feb 26 14:37 |
| Sosumi | the fx-8350 is what everyone still has around here | Feb 26 14:37 |
| Sosumi | which makes me wander if amd has payed for enough fab capacity to supply cpus worldwide | Feb 26 14:38 |
| Sosumi | and not just some specific countries | Feb 26 14:38 |
| msb | Sosumi: Do compute-intensive Linux programs, like for converting xvid videos to x264 to save disk space, take advantage of 8 cores? | Feb 26 14:38 |
| Sosumi | handbrake, from what I know, does | Feb 26 14:39 |
| Sosumi | even more | Feb 26 14:39 |
| Sosumi | than 8 | Feb 26 14:39 |
| msb | Great! | Feb 26 14:39 |
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| msb | I have various xvid movies, and converting them to 264 would save about half the disk space. | Feb 26 14:45 |
| MinceR | it would result in additional loss of detail | Feb 26 14:46 |
| msb | I hope the inevitable increase in fuzziness would not be noticeable. | Feb 26 14:46 |
| MinceR | most likely | Feb 26 14:46 |
| msb | yeah | Feb 26 14:46 |
| MinceR | almost any lossy->lossy conversion is itself lossy | Feb 26 14:46 |
| msb | right | Feb 26 14:46 |
| msb | I have a few movies as vobs, but not many. | Feb 26 14:47 |
| msb | Oh well, there goes my reason for upgrading my 'puter. | Feb 26 14:48 |
| msb | Keeping Firefox from using too much CPU seems to have stopped the crashing involving the Nvidia display driver. | Feb 26 14:49 |
| msb | Maybe the recent Firefox updates have started using up something the driver has a limited supply of. | Feb 26 14:49 |
| msb | So I've been limiting the total number of firefox tabs to keep the cpu usage low. | Feb 26 14:50 |
| MinceR | NoScript can also help with that | Feb 26 14:50 |
| MinceR | and to a lesser degree, RefreshBlocker | Feb 26 14:51 |
| msb | NoScript kills javascript? | Feb 26 14:51 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | it can be set up to only allow the javascript that's absolutely necessary to use the page | Feb 26 14:52 |
| msb | How do it know? | Feb 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | you tell it which domains to allow | Feb 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | and whether for the rest of the session, or forever | Feb 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | though sometimes i just disable CSS to get the obstructions out of the way rather than allow the scripts that enable the close buttons and suc | Feb 26 14:53 |
| MinceR | h | Feb 26 14:53 |
| MinceR | i use Web Developer for that, alt+shift+a disables CSS | Feb 26 14:53 |
| msb | I think FF cyclically patrols all the tabs, so the more you have, the more cpu it uses. | Feb 26 14:54 |
| MinceR | dunno | Feb 26 14:54 |
| MinceR | but i'm pretty sure that javascript and refreshes running in the background are going to use cpu | Feb 26 14:54 |
| msb | Like I have about 80 tabs in 3 windows now, and the cpu usage is kinda humpy and running about 30% of cpu capacity. | Feb 26 14:58 |
| msb | The humps are about 2 seconds apart. | Feb 26 14:58 |
| msb | If it gets to twice that much usage, FF can crash. That's ok, because restarting it brings back everything as it was. But in the last 2 months KDE3 has been crashing with error messages from the display driver, and FF may be the cause. | Feb 26 15:01 |
| msb | Do many web pages auto-refresh? Other than, e.g., weather reports. | Feb 26 15:03 |
| MinceR | 'news' sites love their autorefresh | Feb 26 15:03 |
| msb | Ah. | Feb 26 15:03 |
| MinceR | they sometimes rip the page out from under me when i'm reading it | Feb 26 15:03 |
| MinceR | and if i have no connectivity, suddenly i get an error page | Feb 26 15:03 |
| MinceR | first i hoped noscript would stop the madness, but it didn't | Feb 26 15:04 |
| MinceR | then i found RefreshBlocker and now the idiocy is contained :> | Feb 26 15:04 |
| msb | Pages with flash use a lot of cpu. So I routinely kill the flash container. It comes back when I refresh a flash page. | Feb 26 15:06 |
| msb | In all the generations of Firefox, I've always had a desktop devoted to dealing with its problems. | Feb 26 15:07 |
| MinceR | i tend to disable the flash plugin in my main firefox profile | Feb 26 15:07 |
| MinceR | though this is probably from the time when flash crashed more often and occasionally took the browser with itself | Feb 26 15:08 |
| msb | I want it for youtube. | Feb 26 15:08 |
| MinceR | i have a separate profile for flash | Feb 26 15:08 |
| MinceR | and for when i don't want to hunt domains to find out what scripts the damn page needs to work :> | Feb 26 15:08 |
| MinceR | i also have a script to kill all flash instances, in case it goes out of control :> | Feb 26 15:09 |
| msb | I have a script called kp which does -- killall plugin-container | Feb 26 15:09 |
| msb | That kills flash. | Feb 26 15:10 |
| msb | I think flash crashes killing the browser is why they put in the plugin-container. | Feb 26 15:12 |
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| MinceR | :) | Feb 26 15:16 |
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| msb | Firefox is an old friend, and very capable, so I put up with its problems. But if they put in unremovable ads, that will change very quickly. | Feb 26 15:24 |
| MinceR | there will probably be forks without it | Feb 26 15:25 |
| MinceR | also, i tend to turn off the new tab page and they said the ads will be there | Feb 26 15:25 |
| MinceR | also, it will probably be easy to patch the ads out | Feb 26 15:25 |
| msb | What's the new tab page? | Feb 26 15:26 |
| MinceR | when you open a new tab, by default it has thumbnail links and stuff on it | Feb 26 15:28 |
| MinceR | that's the one | Feb 26 15:28 |
| MinceR | it can be toggled by clicking on the 3x3 squares icon in the top right corner | Feb 26 15:28 |
| msb | Ah, when you press Alt-T. | Feb 26 15:28 |
| msb | I guess I mean Ctrl-T | Feb 26 15:31 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Feb 26 15:31 |
| msb | Well, if turning off those thumbnails kills the ads, that's easy. I don't use them much, because typing in a couple of characters of freequently used urls creates the nice drop-down menu. | Feb 26 15:33 |
| MinceR | i expect drama when the release with the ads rolls out anyway. :> | Feb 26 15:37 |
| MinceR | and it's possible that iceweasel will patch them out :> | Feb 26 15:37 |
| MinceR | (the debian version of firefox) | Feb 26 15:37 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBebDeEUNcg | Feb 26 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Spain: New Sony smarphone plays video with the fishes - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gpdjz ] | Feb 26 16:17 | |
| Sosumi | pffff | Feb 26 16:17 |
| Sosumi | on the iphone all you need is to download a app | Feb 26 16:17 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 26 16:19 |
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| Sosumi | msb, what is the top amd fx model available at your place? | Feb 26 18:32 |
| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/adikkap/status/438706661549936640/photo/1 | Feb 26 18:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@adikkap: @salty__1970 @evabraun1912 И обоих самолетов(штурмовиков!) http://t.co/6geIIugZPw | Feb 26 18:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@adikkap: @salty__1970 @evabraun1912 И обоих самолетов(штурмовиков!) http://t.co/6geIIugZPw | Feb 26 18:51 | |
| Sosumi | latvia airforce on standby after drills in russia | Feb 26 18:51 |
| Sosumi | plus US telling russia to not be "proactive" in the ukranian affair | Feb 26 18:52 |
| Sosumi | after the destabilization campaign conducted by Nuland | Feb 26 18:53 |
| Sosumi | well Nuland and others | Feb 26 18:58 |
| Sosumi | although the "F the EU remark holds to itself" | Feb 26 18:58 |
| Sosumi | Ukraine could pretty much play both sides | Feb 26 18:59 |
| Sosumi | now what could | Feb 26 18:59 |
| Sosumi | is the US/NATO use the ukranian territory for the missile shield | Feb 26 19:00 |
| Sosumi | against russia | Feb 26 19:00 |
| Sosumi | and if not for the missile platforms | Feb 26 19:00 |
| Sosumi | at least for radionics | Feb 26 19:01 |
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| Sosumi | so at this moment | Feb 26 19:01 |
| Sosumi | it looks like US/NATO = 1 - Russia = 0 | Feb 26 19:02 |
| Sosumi | and they could pretty ship the mobs or use the ukranian "event" to destabilize belarus | Feb 26 19:03 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3691291 | Feb 26 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Trying to float a... | Feb 26 21:03 | |
| schestowitz | "I don't get it, China does not trust the US and knows well the spying issue, and even so uses Windows." | Feb 26 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Network effect, it's time to quit the lockin | Feb 26 21:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3692120 | Feb 26 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Hoard data to fig... | Feb 26 21:04 | |
| schestowitz | "What an unbelievable world we live in. People thought I was paranoid to imagine that private companies did this, even when I had quotes from former HP Bruce Perens and training documents from Microsoft. Now we know that government also commits this crime on behalf of private companies and that they share enormous databases designed to track our every move. We need to outlaw the data collection and end the government programs. That | Feb 26 21:05 |
| schestowitz | will be difficult given the power the programs give those who run them." | Feb 26 21:05 |
| schestowitz | RMS always says that stopping collection is the only solution and I suspect he's right. | Feb 26 21:05 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689668 | Feb 26 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | War on the poor, ... | Feb 26 21:06 | |
| schestowitz | ""They tell me go back to the shelter but it’s dangerous there. Kids want my belongings.” Those kind of thieves should be jailed and the keys trown away, they're not only unable to sustain themselves, but even while receiving help like sheltering they keep infrin"They tell me go back to the shelter but it’s dangerous there. Kids want my belongings.” Those kind of thieves should be jailed and the keys trown away, they're not | Feb 26 21:06 |
| schestowitz | only unable to sustain themselves, but even while receiving help like sheltering they keep infringing the law for no good reason. If I'm going to pay for food and shelter for that kind of people via taxes, I prefer hosting them in a prison rather than in a shelter."ging the law for no good reason. If I'm going to pay for food and shelter for that kind of people via taxes, I prefer hosting them in a prison rather than in a shelter. | Feb 26 21:06 |
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| msb | Sosumi: Looks like the best deal is AMD FX-9590 directly from Amazon for $270 | Feb 26 21:20 |
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| msb | Sosumi: However, people on Amazon say that at 220 watts the FX-9590 gets too hot without a liquid cooler. The FX-8350 is $180. | Feb 26 21:36 |
| msb | and 125 watts. | Feb 26 21:36 |
| Sosumi | you'd probably be forced into a closed loop | Feb 26 21:37 |
| Sosumi | cooler | Feb 26 21:37 |
| Sosumi | which would probably be ok | Feb 26 21:39 |
| Sosumi | since the higher end ones cost as much as a top noctua or termalright higher end model | Feb 26 21:39 |
| msb | Passmarks are 9050 and 10,399. So I'd get a 15% speed increase, which wouldn't be noticeable, and a lot of aggravation. | Feb 26 21:40 |
| Sosumi | buy what fits your needs :) | Feb 26 21:41 |
| msb | This looks like a case where stepping back from the state of the art is a real good idea. | Feb 26 21:42 |
| msb | Well, what kind of need would dictate going for 15% more speed with cooling problems. | Feb 26 21:43 |
| msb | ? | Feb 26 21:43 |
| msb | One sixth faster. It would be barely noticeable in a game. | Feb 26 21:43 |
| Sosumi | amd needs to fix that in a newer architecture | Feb 26 21:45 |
| Sosumi | also I don't kind of game so I have no idea on how performance would escalate | Feb 26 21:45 |
| msb | How could it be other than linear? | Feb 26 21:46 |
| Sosumi | well ofc | Feb 26 21:46 |
| msb | assuming the graphics system can keep up. | Feb 26 21:46 |
| Sosumi | but given the cooling requirement | Feb 26 21:46 |
| Sosumi | one would have to consider how both cpus would behave using the same cooler | Feb 26 21:47 |
| Sosumi | running the same game | Feb 26 21:47 |
| Sosumi | and compare if the hotter version would end up throtling | Feb 26 21:47 |
| msb | The guys on Amazon say the 9590 just will not work with air cooling -- gets much too hot. | Feb 26 21:48 |
| msb | And even if you got full speed from the 9590, psychologically is 15% speed increase noticeable? | Feb 26 21:48 |
| Sosumi | and how would it do with a 140mm closed loop cooler? | Feb 26 21:48 |
| msb | Which is closed-loop liquid and a 14cm fan? | Feb 26 21:49 |
| Sosumi | both, with 1:1 matching | Feb 26 21:50 |
| msb | matching? | Feb 26 21:51 |
| Sosumi | yes, the fan has the dimension of the radiator | Feb 26 21:52 |
| Sosumi | and some can take 2 on each side for push pull configs | Feb 26 21:53 |
| msb | Maybe if you used liquid nitrogen cooling on the 9590 and overclocked it you could get a psychologically noticeable speed increase over the 8350. | Feb 26 21:54 |
| Sosumi | lol | Feb 26 21:55 |
| Sosumi | it depends on what your needs are | Feb 26 21:55 |
| Sosumi | do those 15% matter? | Feb 26 21:56 |
| msb | Right. How could it matter? | Feb 26 21:56 |
| Sosumi | I don't know | Feb 26 21:56 |
| Sosumi | to me they just come with a huge tradeof | Feb 26 21:57 |
| Sosumi | aka heat | Feb 26 21:57 |
| msb | Unless you're running some kind of commercial realtime media processing system that just happens to need that much additional speed... | Feb 26 21:57 |
| msb | exactly | Feb 26 21:58 |
| Sosumi | for that I'd be picking intel | Feb 26 21:58 |
| Sosumi | since they run cooler | Feb 26 21:58 |
| msb | and paying 500+ bucks for it | Feb 26 21:58 |
| Sosumi | and don't force me into a risky watercooling system that might end up leaking | Feb 26 21:58 |
| Sosumi | also must consider how much power it takes to run vs computability | Feb 26 22:00 |
| msb | you can get into the 12000 and 13000 specmarks with Intel for 500+ bucks. That would give a noticeable speed increase. | Feb 26 22:00 |
| msb | At least if you saw the two systems running side by side. | Feb 26 22:01 |
| msb | All things considered, I think the FX-8350, which is the one you suggested in the first place, is the sweet spot. | Feb 26 22:02 |
| Sosumi | just get a good board for it | Feb 26 22:02 |
| msb | ASUS | Feb 26 22:03 |
| Sosumi | well ofc | Feb 26 22:03 |
| Sosumi | but a high quality one | Feb 26 22:03 |
| msb | ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX -- $178 from Amazon | Feb 26 22:05 |
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| msb | milspec components 8^) | Feb 26 22:23 |
| msb | So far I haven't been able to find a page from a Linux user running that mobo and the FX-8350 cpu. Google ignores the word "linux" even if I put it first in the search line. It's those goddamned reptilians I tell you! | Feb 26 22:25 |
| msb | There are OK reports of Linux, that mobo, and lower AMD CPUs. | Feb 26 22:26 |
| MinceR | what if you prepend the + operator, as in +linux ? | Feb 26 22:26 |
| msb | What does that do? | Feb 26 22:27 |
| MinceR | it requires that that word appear in the results | Feb 26 22:27 |
| MinceR | (AND instead of OR) | Feb 26 22:27 |
| MinceR | at least i think that the docs say that's what it does | Feb 26 22:27 |
| msb | I thought it was always supposed to be AND! | Feb 26 22:27 |
| MinceR | i think it's not quite boolean | Feb 26 22:27 |
| MinceR | it's some sort of fuzzy thing | Feb 26 22:27 |
| msb | yeah, that fits with what I'm seeing | Feb 26 22:28 |
| msb | Yay, it worked! Thanks MinceR! Only 4 hits now, this is a good one: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/363365-28-asus-sabertooth-990fx-8350-build-notes-success | Feb 26 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0, AMD 8350 Build - My Notes for Success - AMD - Components [ http://ur1.ca/gpgfe ] | Feb 26 22:31 | |
| MinceR | np | Feb 26 22:32 |
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| msb | Currently I have an AMD Athlon64 5200 CPU, but I can't find a pathmark for it. | Feb 26 22:37 |
| msb | Maybe the pathmark program finds the cpu not worth its time and gives up in disgust. | Feb 26 22:37 |
| msb | Well, it only has 2 cores, so I'm sure I'll see a speed increase with 8. | Feb 26 22:38 |
| msb | I could get a good $200 video card, become a gamer, and develop my urge to kill. | Feb 26 22:39 |
| MinceR | :D | Feb 26 22:40 |
| msb | I wonder if there's a first-person-shooter game where you're an apartment tenant trying to kill your landlord. | Feb 26 22:40 |
| msb | I could get with that. | Feb 26 22:41 |
| msb | I figure if the cpu, mobo, ram, video card, and disk all cost about the same amount -- $150-200 -- then the price/performance of the system is optimized. | Feb 26 22:42 |
| msb | Assuming that you get the best available for that price for each of the components, of course. | Feb 26 22:43 |
| msb | I guess I should add case/power supply. | Feb 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Munich chooses open source groupware solution | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/GWi0Cl2PoG | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpgjf | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google brings KitKat launcher to all Nexus | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | devices http://t.co/YCjtso8V9M | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpgjg | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Education ministry Romania endorses Ubuntu | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/rKOQ3LQdcC | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpgjh | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux snapshot: Pay rates and employers with | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the most job ads http://t.co/KKXV7A43EA | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpgji | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Mempo Still Aiming For Better Security | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/k3vPm8i6lD | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpgjj | Feb 26 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Munich chooses open source groupware solution | Tux Machines | Feb 26 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google brings KitKat launcher to all Nexus devices | Tux Machines | Feb 26 22:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Education ministry Romania endorses Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Feb 26 22:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux snapshot: Pay rates and employers with the most job ads | Tux Machines | Feb 26 22:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Mempo Still Aiming For Better Security | Tux Machines | Feb 26 22:45 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Feb 26 22:57 |
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| XFaCE | yo schestowitz__ | Feb 26 23:00 |
| msb | my current cpu is 1285 pathmark | Feb 26 23:04 |
| schestowitz__ | XFaCE: hey, what;s up? | Feb 26 23:05 |
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| icecrawler | hey msb_ | Feb 27 05:58 |
| icecrawler | hey DaemonFC | Feb 27 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | hello | Feb 27 06:30 |
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| msb | hi icecrawler | Feb 27 06:54 |
| msb | My family came from Ukraine, and now it's been taken over by Nazis. | Feb 27 06:55 |
| msb | Nazis backed by the US, including Hillary Clinton. | Feb 27 06:56 |
| MinceR | so the nazis backed by the us defeated the nazis backed by russia? :> | Feb 27 07:04 |
| msb | http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-and-the-politics-of-anti-semitism-west-upholds-neo-nazi-repression-of-ukraines-jewish-community/5370790 | Feb 27 07:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Ukraine and the “Politics of Anti-Semitism”: The West Upholds Neo-Nazi Repression of Ukraine’s Jewish Community | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gpjys ] | Feb 27 07:35 | |
| msb | http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukrainian-neo-nazis-declare-that-power-comes-out-of-the-barrels-of-their-guns/5371126 | Feb 27 07:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Ukrainian Neo-Nazis Declare that Power Comes Out of the Barrels of their Guns | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gpjzg ] | Feb 27 07:37 | |
| msb | http://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/23/neocons-and-the-ukraine-coup/ | Feb 27 07:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-consortiumnews.com | Neocons and the Ukraine Coup | Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/gpjzk ] | Feb 27 07:38 | |
| msb | MinceR: How is the elected government that has now been overthrown, that was backed by Russia, Nazis? | Feb 27 07:39 |
| MinceR | not sure, perhaps by analogy to the hungarian nazi government :> | Feb 27 07:39 |
| msb | How was the hungarian govt nazis? | Feb 27 07:40 |
| MinceR | they're nationalists and they follow the same methods as the earlier "socialist" dictatorship, so they're national socialists, therefore nazis | Feb 27 07:40 |
| msb | It's wrong to use the term "nazi" to mean "authoritarian". | Feb 27 07:40 |
| MinceR | they also seem to fit the "third way" wikipedia connects with nazis | Feb 27 07:41 |
| msb | The nazis were not socialists. | Feb 27 07:41 |
| msb | They used that word in their name to deceive people. | Feb 27 07:41 |
| MinceR | same with the commies | Feb 27 07:41 |
| MinceR | the commies never wanted the people to have power, control or freedom | Feb 27 07:41 |
| MinceR | they never wanted to reduce the differences in wealth | Feb 27 07:42 |
| msb | Some did and some didn't. | Feb 27 07:42 |
| MinceR | they just wanted to have it all for themselves | Feb 27 07:42 |
| MinceR | and the ones that didn't were few and were sidelined or murdered | Feb 27 07:42 |
| msb | How about Ho Chi Minh? | Feb 27 07:42 |
| MinceR | dunno | Feb 27 07:42 |
| msb | Nazis serve corporations and wealthy people. | Feb 27 07:43 |
| MinceR | in all authoritarian governments, the wealth concentrates in a small group | Feb 27 07:43 |
| MinceR | it hardly matters if they deny it or not and what they call it | Feb 27 07:44 |
| msb | Stalinist Communists were authoritarian, but did not serve corporations. | Feb 27 07:44 |
| MinceR | like when commies claim that everything belongs to the people by which they mean that everything belongs to the state which they own | Feb 27 07:44 |
| msb | There are certainly socialist governments that are not authoritarian. | Feb 27 07:44 |
| MinceR | well, our commie dictatorship was authoritarian | Feb 27 07:45 |
| msb | in Hungary? | Feb 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | and our nazi dictatorships were/are authoritarian as well | Feb 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | yup | Feb 27 07:45 |
| msb | But that doesn't mean they are/were the same. | Feb 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | and most of the fidesz leaders come from mszmp, the commie state party | Feb 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | yeah, the colors and symbols are different | Feb 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | and everybody claims they're different | Feb 27 07:46 |
| msb | The politics and allies are different. | Feb 27 07:46 |
| MinceR | because being oppressed with different colors, symbols and words is just so great | Feb 27 07:46 |
| MinceR | allies change all the time | Feb 27 07:46 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if the politics really are different | Feb 27 07:46 |
| msb | For example, the socialist govt of Afghanistan was muc better for people than the Taliban, which was installed by the US via the mujanhideen, aka al-qaeda. | Feb 27 07:47 |
| msb | For example, the socialist govt of Afghanistan was much better for people than the Taliban, which was installed by the US via the mujahideen, aka al-qaeda. | Feb 27 07:47 |
| msb | The socialist govt of Nicaragua has been reelected. | Feb 27 07:48 |
| msb | What is fidesz? | Feb 27 07:48 |
| MinceR | one of the hungarian fundie nazi parties | Feb 27 07:49 |
| MinceR | the one that currently owns the country | Feb 27 07:49 |
| msb | Not good. | Feb 27 07:49 |
| MinceR | it has a vestigial ally called kdnp, who were always christian in name and had the ideology fidesz hid before | Feb 27 07:49 |
| MinceR | and there's jobbik, which many people believe is different, even though their only problem is that they're not in the velvet seats. | Feb 27 07:50 |
| msb | Hopefully you are not there anymore? | Feb 27 07:50 |
| MinceR | fidesz and kdnp are also members of the "european people's party" who still haven't kicked them out yet | Feb 27 07:50 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, i'm still here but i'm planning to leave | Feb 27 07:50 |
| msb | I can't suggest that you come to the US, because our govt has made preparations for a total fascist takeover. | Feb 27 07:52 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Feb 27 07:52 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, the whole planet seems to be going to shit | Feb 27 07:52 |
| MinceR | even countries i thought were doing all right are doing some horrible things | Feb 27 07:53 |
| msb | I think Russia is the best hope we have, even though Putin is afraid of Pussy. | Feb 27 07:53 |
| MinceR | nope | Feb 27 07:53 |
| MinceR | russia is authoritarian and fundamentalist | Feb 27 07:54 |
| msb | But not nazi. | Feb 27 07:54 |
| MinceR | they locked pussy riot up because they dared insult the cult that russia loves so much now | Feb 27 07:54 |
| msb | They chased out the oligarchs. | Feb 27 07:54 |
| MinceR | are you sure? | Feb 27 07:54 |
| MinceR | i doubt putin is running the show all by himself | Feb 27 07:54 |
| MinceR | hungary has its oligarchs too | Feb 27 07:54 |
| msb | The russians certainly got rid of some of them. They went to Israel. | Feb 27 07:55 |
| MinceR | getting rid of the oligarchs of the opposition is not "getting rid of the oligarchs" | Feb 27 07:55 |
| MinceR | it's a power grab. | Feb 27 07:55 |
| MinceR | trying to paint it in a good light is like when hungarian commies claim that when the russians took over from the germans, it was "liberation" | Feb 27 07:56 |
| msb | Oligarchs is the term for ultrawealthy capitalists. | Feb 27 07:56 |
| MinceR | when it was merely one master taking the slaves away from the other | Feb 27 07:56 |
| MinceR | yes, so? | Feb 27 07:56 |
| msb | They were controlling big industries and taking the profits that should have gone to the people or at least to the govt. | Feb 27 07:57 |
| msb | Not everything in the world happens the way it did in Hungary. | Feb 27 07:57 |
| MinceR | do you really believe that someone who owns most of a country can be not wealthy? | Feb 27 07:57 |
| msb | By definition they are, but who are you talking about, Putin? | Feb 27 07:58 |
| MinceR | putin and his pals | Feb 27 07:58 |
| MinceR | for example | Feb 27 07:58 |
| MinceR | also, orban and his pals | Feb 27 07:58 |
| MinceR | kadar and his fellow commies | Feb 27 07:58 |
| msb | They are the govt, and control the country, but they don't own it. | Feb 27 07:59 |
| MinceR | how so? | Feb 27 07:59 |
| msb | Isn't Kadar long dead? | Feb 27 07:59 |
| MinceR | yes he is | Feb 27 07:59 |
| MinceR | his legacy remains | Feb 27 07:59 |
| MinceR | and some of his buddies do too | Feb 27 07:59 |
| MinceR | and hungarian idiots idolize him | Feb 27 07:59 |
| msb | US idiots idolize Obama because he's black and "Democratic" Party, even though he is a fascist. | Feb 27 08:00 |
| msb | Who is/was Orban? | Feb 27 08:01 |
| MinceR | former secretary of the communist youth organisation, KISZ; currently president of fidesz | Feb 27 08:02 |
| MinceR | and dictator of hungary | Feb 27 08:02 |
| msb | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n | Feb 27 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Viktor Orbán - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gpk4r ] | Feb 27 08:03 | |
| msb | Wiki couldn't even find a picture of him smiling. | Feb 27 08:03 |
| MinceR | he doesn't deserve one | Feb 27 08:04 |
| msb | People are pretty happy in socialist Cuba and Nicaragua, and socialist Vietnam seems to be improving -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam | Feb 27 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Feb 27 08:07 | |
| MinceR | who says so, their government? | Feb 27 08:07 |
| MinceR | and if you love cuba so much, why don't you move there? | Feb 27 08:08 |
| msb | There have been various movies made in Cuba by Americans. | Feb 27 08:08 |
| MinceR | after all, you won't mind if the government doesn't allow you to have an internet connection | Feb 27 08:08 |
| MinceR | apparently that doesn't matter to commies | Feb 27 08:08 |
| msb | Cuba is in great danger from the US govt. That's why it is somewhat authoritarian. | Feb 27 08:09 |
| msb | Being able to share things like farm tractors is a great advantage. Cuba also has very good health care. | Feb 27 08:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's a great excuse to live in oppression | Feb 27 08:09 |
| msb | The US has dropped viruses and insect pests on Cuba from airplanes. | Feb 27 08:10 |
| msb | And financed anti-govt political parties. | Feb 27 08:10 |
| msb | And of course it maintains an embargo in which no company that deals with Cuba can do business with the US. Extremely evil. | Feb 27 08:11 |
| msb | The US govt is run by ultra-wealthy psychopaths. Its foreign policy has always been to destroy socialism everywhere, no matter how democratic it is. | Feb 27 08:12 |
| msb | Socialism is bad for the profits of the ultrawealthy that run the US govt. | Feb 27 08:12 |
| msb | US ultrawealthy businessmen financed Hitler. http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis | Feb 27 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Feb 27 08:14 | |
| msb | They did it so he would murder all the socialists and labor union leaders in Europe. | Feb 27 08:14 |
| msb | Pure capitalism seems like a good idea when people visualize it being used in a small town. But when the wealthy get enough money to control the govt, and are psychopaths who are willing to murder people by the millions to increase their profits, it goes very bad. | Feb 27 08:17 |
| msb | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqs7GJ0jdY | Feb 27 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Psychopathy in Politics and Finance - Stefan Verstappen on GRTV - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/g85hq ] | Feb 27 08:18 | |
| MinceR | when two sides are opposed, one side being evil doesn't automatically mean that the other one isn't as evil | Feb 27 08:18 |
| MinceR | hungarians can't understand this either. | Feb 27 08:18 |
| msb | True. But not all governments are like in Hungary and like Stalin. | Feb 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3694301 | Feb 27 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Big data, cloud b... | Feb 27 08:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | "The spies know what works and want freedom for themselves." | Feb 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3693986 | Feb 27 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Feb 27 08:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | "It takes strength, incredible control and training but it's not a sport." | Feb 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3693963 | Feb 27 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Feb 27 08:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I'm partial to the signs threatening to serve children espresso and give them a puppy." | Feb 27 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | "Haha, Will is right." | Feb 27 08:20 |
| msb | Human facial expression was not evolved to withstand high-speed strobe photography. | Feb 27 08:26 |
| msb | People can look very weird. And yes, ballet dancers have tits. | Feb 27 08:27 |
| msb | Or ice skaters, whatever. | Feb 27 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | This winter is dragging on... | Feb 27 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen it this cold at this point. | Feb 27 08:29 |
| msb | It's been temperate in the San Francisco area, and now it's raining a little. | Feb 27 08:29 |
| msb | DaemonFC: Don;t worry. When the methane clathrate under the polar oceans finishes melting an vaporizing, it'll be plenty warm. | Feb 27 08:31 |
| msb | Of course the current coasts may be submerged. | Feb 27 08:31 |
| msb | Hopefully Earth will not get as hot as Venus, since we're farther from the Sun. | Feb 27 08:32 |
| msb | Some life should survive, along with the air-conditioning industry. | Feb 27 08:34 |
| DaemonFC | The EPA suggests that Indiana's climate will be more like Missouri's is now by 2050. | Feb 27 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | And more like Louisiana's by 2070. | Feb 27 08:36 |
| msb | Methane is about 23x as effective a greenhouse gas as CO2. The more that's released, the hotter it gets, causing more to melt and release. It's literally exponential. I doubt that the EPA is taking that into account. | Feb 27 08:39 |
| msb | DaemonFC: Well, you should start learning French and enjoying Zydeco music! | Feb 27 08:40 |
| msb | Dig a pond and get into the shrimp farming industry early! | Feb 27 08:41 |
| msb | I love this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fs12_-ihPY | Feb 27 08:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Balfa Brothers - Parlez Nous A Boire - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gpkdz ] | Feb 27 08:43 | |
| msb | A bit of the lyrics here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMzysRahEXs Southern Comfort is a great movie. | Feb 27 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Parlez-nous à boire - Balfa brothers & Marc Savoy - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gpkef ] | Feb 27 08:48 | |
| DaemonFC | msb: So Florida will be underwater. That's bad. They'll move further north. Some of them may end up in Indiana. :P | Feb 27 08:52 |
| msb | Agghh! | Feb 27 08:53 |
| msb | Invest in the suntan lotion industry. And move to Canada. | Feb 27 08:55 |
| msb | Half a century ago my family had a short vacation in Florida. It was horribly hot there. Being submerged would be a blessing. | Feb 27 08:58 |
| msb | In the TV series (Star Trek) Enterprise, aliens burned a 10 mile wide swathe across Florida, just to test their planet-kller weapon. It's a great show, lasted several years. | Feb 27 09:00 |
| msb | Hah! Castle did Scientology! S06E16 | Feb 27 09:28 |
| DaemonFC | msb: It turns out that the Hubbert Curve was wrong. | Feb 27 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | It didn't anticipate enhanced recovery and unconventional oil. | Feb 27 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like supply isn't going to be the problem. | Feb 27 09:33 |
| DaemonFC | We have enough to fry ourselves many times over. :) | Feb 27 09:33 |
| msb | Burning it and making CO2 is going to be the problem. | Feb 27 09:33 |
| msb | yep | Feb 27 09:33 |
| msb | Also there's plenty of coal, which can be converted to oil, or burned as is. Same CO2. | Feb 27 09:34 |
| msb | We should switch to failsafe fission reactors, which can be built -- they just cost more. | Feb 27 09:35 |
| msb | And develop cold fusion. | Feb 27 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | I used recycled motor oil in my car for a long time. | Feb 27 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | The price of other oil was rising while the price for recycled was staying under $1 per quart. | Feb 27 09:36 |
| msb | Doesn't it have metal particles in it, or degenerated molecules that don't lube as well? | Feb 27 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | Now they've greenwashed recycled oil and the price is basically the same. :P | Feb 27 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | No. | Feb 27 09:37 |
| msb | If you had a steam car you could burn it -- no problem. | Feb 27 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | They filter it out and add a new detergent package. | Feb 27 09:37 |
| msb | Cool! | Feb 27 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | I was getting it for as little as 78 cents per quart at one point. | Feb 27 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://green.autoblog.com/2011/03/16/valvoline-nextgen-recycled-motor-oil/ | Feb 27 09:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-green.autoblog.com | Valvoline introduces NextGen recycled motor oil; now, who wants it? [ http://ur1.ca/gpkqr ] | Feb 27 09:38 | |
| DaemonFC | That was before the major brands started greenwashing it. | Feb 27 09:38 |
| DaemonFC | Now it's $3.50-$4 a quart. :P | Feb 27 09:38 |
| msb | Better that it's re-used in cars than spread on crops, like heavy-metal sewer sludge, or added to the water supply, like fluoride waste from aluminum and uranium manufacturing. | Feb 27 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | msb: The store brand fluids aren't that much cheaper than the name brands. | Feb 27 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | If you use Walmart's brand of extended life antifreeze, you only save like $1 a bottle. | Feb 27 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | So I just use the Prestone brand. Probably the same stuff either way... | Feb 27 09:42 |
| msb | Well, at least consider yourself lucky that you're not living in Hungary. | Feb 27 09:42 |
| msb | Do not sap or impurify your precious automotive fluids! | Feb 27 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | msb: I've always been pretty frugal about most things. | Feb 27 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | I heckle Comcast every six months. | Feb 27 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | I shop at thrift stores for clothes. | Feb 27 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | I fill my freezer with stuff that was on closeout at the supermarket. :P | Feb 27 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | Pennies scream as they get pinched around here. :) | Feb 27 10:03 |
| msb | Good for you! | Feb 27 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | I wanted a second TV for my bedroom so I could play my video games and DVDs on it. | Feb 27 10:04 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438973840061124608 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438974012103098368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438974227350568961 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438975921224429568 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438976225353404416 | Feb 27 10:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux-based operating system that hooks into Microsoft APIs and is distributed by a Microsoft partner? Think #novell and not just #nokia | Feb 27 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The FSFE's founder was right when he called the Microsoft-Nokia deal another #Microsoft - #Novell deal. #Nokia too gives patents to trolls. | Feb 27 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Nokia 'Android': for Microsoft "intellectual property peace of mind" - wait till the patent-stacking starts against more Android players | Feb 27 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Weston Work Still Ongoing For A Fullscreen Shell Protocol http://t.co/itKCI7Y698 #wayland #weston #linux #graphics | Feb 27 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Weston Work Still Ongoing For A Fullscreen Shell Protocol | Feb 27 10:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Nothing as shocking as finding that tablet got switched on by accident and for 10 minutes of walking made a complete mess of my TODO list | Feb 27 10:04 | |
| DaemonFC | So instead of buying a new one, I got on Craigslist and found a guy that was giving away a perfectly good 50" SDTV. | Feb 27 10:04 |
| DaemonFC | Then I found a DTV converter for $5 at a garage sale. | Feb 27 10:04 |
| *FYI (559d90ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.157.144.255) has joined #techrights | Feb 27 10:10 | |
| FYI | There is some development the UK - the Cabinet Office asked opinions to asses some standards | Feb 27 10:11 |
| FYI | http://standards.data.gov.uk/challenge/viewing-government-documents | Feb 27 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standards.data.gov.uk | Viewing government documents | Standards Hub [ http://ur1.ca/gpky9 ] | Feb 27 10:11 | |
| FYI | http://standards.data.gov.uk/challenge/sharing-or-collaborating-government-documents | Feb 27 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standards.data.gov.uk | Sharing or collaborating with government documents | Standards Hub [ http://ur1.ca/gpkya ] | Feb 27 10:11 | |
| FYI | First challenge was about viewing government documents. | Feb 27 10:12 |
| FYI | Second clallenge was about editing government documents | Feb 27 10:12 |
| FYI | The commenting period is now over. | Feb 27 10:13 |
| FYI | http://standards.data.gov.uk/phases-selection-approach | Feb 27 10:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standards.data.gov.uk | Phases in the selection approach | Standards Hub [ http://ur1.ca/gpkyv ] | Feb 27 10:13 | |
| FYI | There is five phases for selecting a standard. | Feb 27 10:14 |
| FYI | The Cabinet office asked opinios about ODF - should it the only document format (internally) for document editing? | Feb 27 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, someone asked which cat litter works best. | Feb 27 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | My cat is weird. He loves the cheap stuff, but I tried to get the more expensive stuff once because it has less dust, and he didn't like that at all. | Feb 27 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | FYI: yeah | Feb 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz__ | I have been debating it with Cabinet Office by email | Feb 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz__ | I will publish more about it soon | Feb 27 10:22 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695367 | Feb 27 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Neocons and the U... | Feb 27 10:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Thanks for sharing, this has been scrubbed from the US media almost entirely. John McCain and Victoria Neuland with a Neo-Nazi, classic stuff. Reminds me of the Hussein/Rumsfeld photo" | Feb 27 10:24 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438982927867981824 | Feb 27 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server Receives Yet Another Kernel Update http://t.co/mcw2kBctVW #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Feb 27 10:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server Receives Yet Another Kernel Update | Feb 27 10:39 | |
| MinceR | what's the reaction to the recent revelation that the monarch of the UK abuses her veto privileges? | Feb 27 10:51 |
| MinceR | geekings | Feb 27 10:52 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Prezbyter/status/438991364554899456 | Feb 27 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Prezbyter: @schestowitz Protecting the community from everyone but them. Law as crime. | Feb 27 11:00 | |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: at dinner last night I shared this with a friend | Feb 27 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | he hadn't even heard abouyt it | Feb 27 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | and he hardly believed it | Feb 27 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | till I told him | Feb 27 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | My wife knew also, but this man is a retired professor | Feb 27 11:01 |
| schestowitz__ | and he didn't know | Feb 27 11:01 |
| schestowitz__ | he was part of Imperial Britian | Feb 27 11:01 |
| MinceR | ic | Feb 27 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | In India | Feb 27 11:11 |
| schestowitz__ | and his father perhaps a spy, he never really shared much info about it | Feb 27 11:11 |
| schestowitz__ | then there's the knowledge about slavery and torture in Kenya, the doping of China under British control... | Feb 27 11:12 |
| schestowitz__ | BUT | Feb 27 11:12 |
| schestowitz__ | When it comes to the Queen having power he remains in denial | Feb 27 11:12 |
| schestowitz__ | He says Monarchy is long gone - and that's how the conversation started at this sushi batr | Feb 27 11:12 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438988512571179008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438989332322746368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438990093265932288 | Feb 27 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA reform advocates oppose White House proposal to hand data to #FBI http://t.co/0Kp6Ba0rRp stop collection altogether | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | NSA reform advocates oppose White House proposal to hand data to FBI | World news | theguardian.com | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Schneier: "Yes, 100 per cent: I'm a target. If the FBI tried to get a warrant on my computer..." http://t.co/3mJ8RbzWiR | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Q&A: Schneier on trust, NSA spying and the end of US internet hegemony • The Register | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "US government...used more National Security Agency surveillance than it disclosed during their court proceedings." http://t.co/KKmThGFwBO | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.salon.com | NSA surveillance: A new door to court challenges? - Salon.com | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438990381443973120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438991068902989825 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438993881968173057 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438994480172380161 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438995232672456704 | Feb 27 11:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #LAPD Spies on Millions of Innocent Folks http://t.co/A07s6utqjG the new standard. Guilty until proven dead/joins NSA. | Feb 27 11:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.laweekly.com | Forget the NSA, the LAPD Spies on Millions of Innocent Folks | News | Los Angeles | Los Angeles News and Events | LA Weekly | Feb 27 11:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Requests NSA Phone Records Not Be Deleted http://t.co/b113inRztA Hope his voters are happy... #nsa | Feb 27 11:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.valuewalk.com | Obama Requests NSA Phone Records Not Be Deleted | Feb 27 11:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Justice Dept: We Need to Keep NSA Call Data ‘Indefinitely’ http://t.co/qsLPXURijK #nsa #usdoj | Feb 27 11:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.antiwar.com | Justice Dept: We Need to Keep NSA Call Data ‘Indefinitely’ -- News from Antiwar.com | Feb 27 11:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Richard Clarke: Potential for American ‘police state’ created by NSA http://t.co/ApGunCHoY9 just "potential"? Same in #uk | Feb 27 11:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtontimes.com | Richard Clarke: Potential for American 'police state' created by NSA - Washington Times | Feb 27 11:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New assaults on American law -- more shocking revelations about NSA spying http://t.co/0xXLrZ7rpk Fox but Napolitano | Feb 27 11:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.foxnews.com | New assaults on American law -- more shocking revelations about NSA spying | Fox News | Feb 27 11:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438996675475296256 | Feb 27 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #facebook is truly sick **. Someone we knew just died from a stroke; people other than the family announce it for wall attention/comments | Feb 27 11:20 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailyfueleconomytip.com/uncategorized/will-switching-to-synthetic-oil-give-you-better-gas-mileage/ | Feb 27 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Feb 27 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailyfueleconomytip.com | Will Switching to Synthetic Oil Give You Better Gas Mileage? | Daily Fuel Economy Tip [ http://ur1.ca/gplgp ] | Feb 27 11:20 | |
| DaemonFC | Another myth that just won't die. | Feb 27 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | In reality, there's very little difference between an ILSAC GF-5 rated conventional oil and a synthetic. | Feb 27 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | You will not get better gas mileage with synthetic. | Feb 27 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | The difference is slightly reduced engine wear, less sludge buildup, and the possibility of going more miles without an oil change. | Feb 27 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | But the difference in engine wear and sludge is not significant. | Feb 27 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | Most gas saving tips are just wrong. | Feb 27 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | Aggressive driving and idling are the biggest gas wasters. | Feb 27 11:24 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438997421411274753 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438997882717614080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438998430292410369 | Feb 27 11:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Drones On: The Slaughter of Pakistani Civilians http://t.co/ZuJH5ML9Km http://t.co/eNMgsTYjjp #droNSA | Feb 27 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalresearch.ca | Obama Drones On: The Slaughter of Pakistani Civilians | Global Research | Feb 27 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> host.madison.com | Drone strikes on foreign soil are difficult to justify : Daily-cardinal | Feb 27 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Promoter of panic over "terrorism" admits that its terrorisation of the population was all in vain again http://t.co/79lRE5AAPu | Feb 27 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> edition.cnn.com | Opinion: Forecasts of terrorist apocalypse? Never mind - CNN.com | Feb 27 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Military #propaganda on US radio courtesy of Murdoch's Fox 'news' http://t.co/ZCS2I1mx35 | Feb 27 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> siouxcityjournal.com | LETTER: Thoughts about proposed cuts to defense | Feb 27 11:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438998774892208128 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438999213226328064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438999349935484928 | Feb 27 11:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Iraq War, Afghanistan War, Gitmo and drones [...] terrorist organizations using these as propaganda to recruit" http://t.co/ZCS2I1mx35 | Feb 27 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Yesterday #NBC was conflating drones with Bin Laden in panic headline. Today: "Stealth Search: Embattled Al Qaeda Hunts for a New Bin Laden" | Feb 27 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The corporate media loves war. Corporations don't send troops to the battle, they only send merchandise to battles. | Feb 27 11:32 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: http://beta.slashdot.org/story/198685 | Feb 27 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beta.slashdot.org | IE Vulnerability Exposing Banking Logins, Spreading Rapidly - Slashdot | Feb 27 11:35 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.itworld.com/security/406979/ie-zero-day-exploit-being-used-widespread-attacks | Feb 27 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | IE zero-day exploit being used in widespread attacks | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gplkm ] | Feb 27 11:35 | |
| msb | Please remember! The entire War of Terror -- the murder by the U.S. of 2,000,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq, the spying by the NSA, the destruction by the US of Libya the nation with the highest standard of living in Africa, the drone attacks that continue -- all of it is based on the 9/11 attack, and this video proves that the Twin Towers were blown up by implanted explosives. Nothing else could have blown the multi-ton girders | Feb 27 11:42 |
| msb | sideways at up to 75mph. Only a horizontal force can accelerate objects horizontally. Newton's Second Law of Motion F=ma is a vector equation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc | Feb 27 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | North Tower Exploding by David Chandler - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gpllt ] | Feb 27 11:42 | |
| schestowitz__ | Mny dad has just been venting lyracially at the US | Feb 27 11:42 |
| schestowitz__ | and those who sympathise with its oreign affairs | Feb 27 11:43 |
| schestowitz__ | e.g. in Ukraine | Feb 27 11:43 |
| msb | This is a very good 13 minute documentary by Russia Today on the 9/11 research, comparing 9/11 to Operation Gladio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vka7Da6e9LY&feature=share | Feb 27 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Truthseeker: 9/11 & Operation Gladio (E23) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gplmx ] | Feb 27 11:50 | |
| msb | The same false-flag terror. | Feb 27 11:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439002817614086144 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439003578003619840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439004076039503873 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439004500360458240 | Feb 27 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #CIA tech chief loves wearable surveillance and 'cloud' #surveillance http://t.co/9BdmWw6vQC what he likes we should all avoid | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> venturebeat.com | Former CIA tech chief is on the prowl for big data & wearables startups (exclusive) | VentureBeat | Security | by Christina Farr | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Lisa Hajjar talks about torture in Guantanamo Bay http://t.co/Hg6ILiYIS4 become a "target", get "probed". #torture #suspicion #dissent | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thecollegianur.com | Lisa Hajjar talks about torture in Guantanamo Bay | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Rove gets platform from Murdoch http://t.co/iWQtIozmg4 http://t.co/KQq5QzQnyS | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> online.wsj.com | Karl Rove: The Endless Benghazi Coverup - WSJ.com | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsmax.com | Karl Rove: House Intelligence Committee Must Press for Answers on Benghazi | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "U.S. has ties to Nazi and fascist protesters in Ukraine" http://t.co/mbNLHEWCHV ultrwealthy in US supported Nazi party in 1930s | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.opednews.com | Article: Is the Rebellion in Ukraine Really Aimed at Creating a National Socialist State? | OpEdNews | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| msb | This is a superb 5 minute video on the absurdity of the govt claims about 9/11 and about the huge coverup afterward, by James Corbett, who works with CRG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98&feature=share | Feb 27 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gplpo ] | Feb 27 11:59 | |
| schestowitz__ | Corbett is interesting, but he's not the face of CRG | Feb 27 12:03 |
| schestowitz__ | And his opinions on things cannot be extrapolated to be seen as representing CRG | Feb 27 12:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Forums get discredited this way, among other ways | Feb 27 12:04 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439007613569998848 | Feb 27 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Erosion of Rights: Latest Headlines http://t.co/fAtpQ9P9X2 #drones #surveillance - making "legal" what was illegal in analogue world | Feb 27 12:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Erosion of Rights: Latest Headlines | Techrights | Feb 27 12:05 | |
| msb | I only said he works with CRG. And his video is full of facts. | Feb 27 12:05 |
| msb | The youtube page has a link to this page on Corbett's site, where he gives a transcript and copious references for the facts in the video: http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/ | Feb 27 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.corbettreport.com | The Corbett Report | 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory [ http://ur1.ca/gplrs ] | Feb 27 12:09 | |
| DaemonFC | http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/10/news/companies/soda-sales-slump/ | Feb 27 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-money.cnn.com | Soda sales are losing their fizz - Dec. 10, 2013 [ http://ur1.ca/gplt4 ] | Feb 27 12:16 | |
| DaemonFC | I pretty much stopped drinking soda and freed up about $50-60 a month. I also feel much better. Even though the soda was diet soda, I started losing weight around the same time that I stopped. Some studies have shown that people who drink diet soda instead of water are 12.8 pounds heavier on average, so *something* about diet soda is causing people to pack on pounds, even though it has no sugar. | Feb 27 12:16 |
| Sosumi | diet soda = aspartame/sucralose soda | Feb 27 12:19 |
| Sosumi | just as bad if not worse than normal soda | Feb 27 12:20 |
| MinceR | not necessarily those sweeteners | Feb 27 12:26 |
| MinceR | also, what's "just as bad" about them? | Feb 27 12:26 |
| MinceR | they're differently bad :> | Feb 27 12:26 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439014896899223552 | Feb 27 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Journalists Should Stop Spreading Speculations That #Microsoft Makes Billions From #Android http://t.co/EHMsShIiuW that includes @sjvn | Feb 27 12:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Journalists Should Stop Spreading Baseless Speculations That Microsoft Makes Billions From Android | Techrights | Feb 27 12:35 | |
| Sosumi | more problems with the trashcan | Feb 27 13:01 |
| Sosumi | http://michaelkammes.com/apple/how-i-killed-the-new-mac-pro/ | Feb 27 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelkammes.com | How I killed the new Mac Pro | Michael Kammes (.com) [ http://ur1.ca/gpm4b ] | Feb 27 13:01 | |
| Sosumi | and no actual fixes in sight | Feb 27 13:02 |
| Sosumi | even the last released thunderbolt fixm didn't fix anything | Feb 27 13:02 |
| Sosumi | which is awesome | Feb 27 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 27 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | Actually, there's a wonderful gay pride parade in Tel Aviv every so often, and a ton of gay bars. | Feb 27 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | Some of these Fundie hacks should go check it out. They'll be horrified. It'll be awesome. | Feb 27 13:27 |
| MinceR | how would that affect the usa-israel love affair? | Feb 27 13:29 |
| DaemonFC | They NEVER talk about the fact that Israel is more progressive about gay rights than most of the US states are. | Feb 27 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | They don't really want to know that, so the ones that know it don't talk about it. | Feb 27 13:37 |
| DaemonFC | "Soft drink makers are prepared. Pepsico, for example, owns water brands SoBe Lifewater and Propel, while Coca-Cola owns Dasani, Vitamin Water and Smart Water." | Feb 27 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | Brand of water..... | Feb 27 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | I still can't fucking believe that. | Feb 27 13:42 |
| MinceR | why? | Feb 27 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | People paying $1-2 per bottle for water. | Feb 27 13:42 |
| MinceR | for example, mineral water from different sources can have different contents and different taste | Feb 27 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | It comes out of every tap, basically free. | Feb 27 13:42 |
| MinceR | and they usually have different brands | Feb 27 13:42 |
| MinceR | spring water is probably similar (though with lower mineral content) | Feb 27 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | People say they don't trust that tap water is safe, so they buy tap water that some company put in plastic bottles and drink that instead. | Feb 27 13:43 |
| MinceR | well, if their heuristic is that "any tap water is bad" then this is disingenuous :> | Feb 27 13:44 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: We get a tap water quality report every year. | Feb 27 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | The biggest problem with the water where I am at is volatile organic compounds. | Feb 27 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | "bad taste" | Feb 27 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | but a cheap carbon filter takes care of that. | Feb 27 13:47 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | They're like $10 and they filter over 100 gallons | Feb 27 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | There's more expensive filters that remove other things. | Feb 27 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | But if those things are not in your water, then you're just wasting your money. | Feb 27 13:50 |
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| msb | Big problem with water if fluoride, if you are living in a red area in this map https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Fluoridated-water-extent-world.svg | Feb 27 15:02 |
| MinceR | http://arielzellman.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/the-seven-rules-of-nationalism/ | Feb 27 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arielzellman.wordpress.com | The Seven Rules of Nationalism | Ariel Zellman [ http://ur1.ca/gpmza ] | Feb 27 15:06 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3683670 | Feb 27 15:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #linux #android f... | Feb 27 15:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I didn't say it is 100% safe ... But I think I'll use my openMoko again :)" | Feb 27 15:12 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695946 | Feb 27 15:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #facebook is trul... | Feb 27 15:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | "It's not facebook, but people who are using it right?" | Feb 27 15:12 |
| schestowitz__ | "@Berta - Systems can encourage unhealthy behaviour in individuals. Facebook is designed and promoted in such a way that encourages people to vie for attention by making public more and more information about themselves and anyone else they know. users are rewarded game-style with public "scores" (likes, followers etc) to encourage them to keep collecting and giving more information. Yes, the users are playing the game, but the game | Feb 27 15:13 |
| schestowitz__ | designer is the one who creates the rules of the game to encourage how user interaction will occur." | Feb 27 15:13 |
| schestowitz__ | "So you want to say that if someone stabbed someone with the knife, so this is a knife's producer fault?" | Feb 27 15:13 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | You're using a false dichotomy (a logical fallacy). Arguing that the system designers have influence is not the same as arguing that individuals should bare no responsibility at all. It is arguing only that individuals are not the only ones responsible, and thus making them so gives a free pass to the others involved. Responsibility needs to be shared among all parties that made decisions influencing the final result. | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | Or to use your example: If the knife manufacturer sold the knife outside divorce courts in packaging explaining how easy and satisfying it was to use the knife to stab someone with instructions included inside on how and where to stab people for maximum harm then I'd be more inclined to give them more culpability than if they sold the knife in a kitchen ship surrounded by recipe books extolling the joys of cooking. Same product. Two | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | different systems encouraging different behaviour. | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | And you are giving an example of a victim mentality - blaming others for a situation that one has created oneself or significantly contributed to. Failing or being unwilling to take responsibility for one's own actions or actions to which one has contributed or for taking action to ameliorate the situation. | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | In this context, instead of saying "Facebook is sick", we should say "Twitter is insane", "Tor is sick" or in general "Internet is sick". | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | Taking your example, Tor has been advertised and even prooved as a great tool to selling drugs, child ponrnography and hiring hitmans. Tor must be sick. Darknet must be sick. | Feb 27 15:14 |
| msb | Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland, makes the person docile and stupid. A functioning pineal makes DMT, melatonin, and other hormones. | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | it there was no FB people would not do this. As for Twitter. it's not a connection among family and friends but usually among people with common interest, so it's about ideas and events, not people | Feb 27 15:15 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695963 | Feb 27 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Promoter of panic... | Feb 27 15:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Why didn't anyone predict another conflict on Russia's borders? Beijing 2008 - Georgia. Sochi 2014 - Ukraine." | Feb 27 15:16 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695920 | Feb 27 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Richard Clarke: P... | Feb 27 15:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | "As planned." | Feb 27 15:16 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695848 | Feb 27 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Obama Requests NS... | Feb 27 15:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I doubt many of them will ever even hear about this." | Feb 27 15:16 |
| schestowitz__ | I think that many will | Feb 27 15:16 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3696224 | Feb 27 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Journalists Shoul... | Feb 27 15:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Are you just upset there is a non-sourcable number attached? I mean, there is no denying they make some amount of money from patent agreements with phone manufacturers who make Android phones. How much? Only M$ and the respecitve parties knowledgable to such secret agreements really know." | Feb 27 15:18 |
| schestowitz__ | They don't. It's like the EULA game. Microsoft NDAs to keep them unaware of other companies' terms. | Feb 27 15:18 |
| msb | Russia is the only effective counter to US international fascist attacks. | Feb 27 15:18 |
| msb | So US will always attack nations around Russia. | Feb 27 15:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I mean, OEM agreements, not EULAs actually. It's in Comes vs Microsoft. | Feb 27 15:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689948 | Feb 27 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #prism exempt #wh... | Feb 27 15:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Xabber is an XMPP client, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't do encrypted communications (eg zrtp or OTR), which would strike it off the list as per the authors requirements." | Feb 27 15:19 |
| msb | Fluoride, mercury, and aluminum are major neurotoxins, and they are variously put into our water, food and air. | Feb 27 15:24 |
| msb | Russia is the only effective counter to US international fascist attacks. pace MinceR | Feb 27 15:28 |
| MinceR | it's not a counter to any sort of fascist attack | Feb 27 15:28 |
| MinceR | fascist attacks are no counter to each other. | Feb 27 15:28 |
| MinceR | but if you love them so much, why don't you move russia? | Feb 27 15:29 |
| MinceR | just be careful not to offend their beloved cult or you might end up in prison :> | Feb 27 15:29 |
| msb | MinceR: you are still using "fascist" to mean "authoritarian". Distorting the meaning of words/concepts causes great difficulties in communication. | Feb 27 15:30 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Feb 27 15:30 |
| MinceR | it is one accepted meaning if "fascist" | Feb 27 15:30 |
| MinceR | s/if/of/ | Feb 27 15:30 |
| msb | Accepted only by people who don't mind distorting and ruining concepts. | Feb 27 15:31 |
| MinceR | no true scotsman | Feb 27 15:31 |
| msb | ??? | Feb 27 15:31 |
| msb | MinceR: Anyhow, the day may come when I will regret not moving to Russia, or Cuba as you previously told me to. | Feb 27 15:33 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Feb 27 15:33 |
| MinceR | you might also want to consider north korea | Feb 27 15:34 |
| MinceR | it's a commie wonderland | Feb 27 15:34 |
| MinceR | you'll just have to learn to like the taste of tree bark! | Feb 27 15:34 |
| msb | MinceR: Perhaps you should move to the US. You would be at home with our Republican Party. | Feb 27 15:35 |
| MinceR | not really | Feb 27 15:35 |
| MinceR | i'm not the one arguing in favor of authoritarianism here :> | Feb 27 15:35 |
| msb | They hate "commies". | Feb 27 15:35 |
| msb | I'm not either. | Feb 27 15:36 |
| MinceR | yeah, and they also fail to see that commies, nazis and fascists are mostly the same. | Feb 27 15:36 |
| msb | Hitler attacked the USSR, killing some 20 million people. | Feb 27 15:37 |
| MinceR | somehow all that waste of ink, breath and bits comes down to centralized control of everything. | Feb 27 15:37 |
| MinceR | both nazi germany and commie russia killed massive amounts of their own people and massive amounts of other people | Feb 27 15:37 |
| msb | The Nazis were 75% financed by wealthy US businessmen. | Feb 27 15:37 |
| MinceR | the commies were less proud of it, though | Feb 27 15:37 |
| MinceR | some of they tried to hide | Feb 27 15:38 |
| MinceR | hardly matters from the viewpoint of the ones who were killed, though | Feb 27 15:38 |
| MinceR | s/some of/some of it/ | Feb 27 15:38 |
| msb | The Bolsheviks were attacked by many different capitalist nations immediately after the revolution, before they had killed anybody. | Feb 27 15:38 |
| msb | Why, MinceR? | Feb 27 15:39 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Feb 27 15:39 |
| MinceR | does this somehow explain the holodomor? | Feb 27 15:39 |
| msb | The attackers murdered millions. | Feb 27 15:39 |
| MinceR | does this make the occupation of hungary for decades just? | Feb 27 15:39 |
| msb | Not at all. | Feb 27 15:39 |
| MinceR | does this make you blind to russian imperialism? | Feb 27 15:40 |
| msb | I don't think Russia is being very imperialistic now. | Feb 27 15:40 |
| MinceR | i think they're being very imperialistic indeed | Feb 27 15:40 |
| msb | How? | Feb 27 15:40 |
| MinceR | they meddle in the affairs of supposedly independent states | Feb 27 15:40 |
| msb | Where? | Feb 27 15:40 |
| MinceR | all over in the former eastern bloc | Feb 27 15:40 |
| MinceR | now in ukraine, for example | Feb 27 15:41 |
| msb | Meddling is not nearly as bad as military attacks. | Feb 27 15:41 |
| MinceR | some of the meddling is military attacks. | Feb 27 15:41 |
| msb | Ukraine has been taken over by nazis who are threatening jews, homosexuals, etc. | Feb 27 15:41 |
| MinceR | russia has been taken over by authoritarians who are threatening homosexuals | Feb 27 15:42 |
| MinceR | stalinists were threatening jews | Feb 27 15:42 |
| msb | Yes, Stalin was very evil. | Feb 27 15:42 |
| Sosumi | I remember when the ukranians were greeting their nazi liberators | Feb 27 15:42 |
| Sosumi | only to find out they were much worst | Feb 27 15:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 27 15:43 |
| msb | But his regime was a reaction to decades of attacks by capitalist nations. | Feb 27 15:43 |
| MinceR | "but he punched me first!" | Feb 27 15:43 |
| msb | They attacked because communism/socialism kills the profits of wealthy capitalists. | Feb 27 15:43 |
| MinceR | assuming that it was a reaction (which it almost certainly wasn't), does this make the nature of the reaction just? | Feb 27 15:43 |
| msb | That's why US ultrawealthy financed Hitler. | Feb 27 15:43 |
| MinceR | no, it didn't | Feb 27 15:43 |
| MinceR | communism/socialism killed the profits of the states where it was used. | Feb 27 15:44 |
| MinceR | it made the russian empire fall apart -- but now they're picking up the pieces again. | Feb 27 15:44 |
| msb | Under communism, Russia advanced from horse-and-buggy to ICBMs in a few decades. | Feb 27 15:45 |
| MinceR | also, since the work i do is mental, not menial, i'm by default painted as an enemy by the commies. | Feb 27 15:45 |
| MinceR | yeah, and most of that advancement was either bought or spied | Feb 27 15:45 |
| MinceR | they could never figure out how to make cars that don't suck | Feb 27 15:46 |
| MinceR | or how to make computers at all | Feb 27 15:46 |
| MinceR | the apartment blocks they built are uninhabitable | Feb 27 15:46 |
| msb | MinceR: For someone who dislikes the fascist regime he lives in, you have absorbed much of their anti-socialist ideology. | Feb 27 15:46 |
| MinceR | msb: you're still trapped in the "A is evil therefore B is good" fallacy. | Feb 27 15:47 |
| msb | Not at all. I think that Stalinism was evil. | Feb 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | you'd make a good hungarian | Feb 27 15:47 |
| msb | But democratic socialism is good. Not authoritarian. | Feb 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | also not functioning | Feb 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | free-market democracy works. | Feb 27 15:48 |
| MinceR | (but you still need to work hard to keep the markets free) | Feb 27 15:48 |
| msb | The Republicans would love you, MinceR! You think exactly like them! | Feb 27 15:48 |
| MinceR | of course it's not ideal -- it's merely the least horrible thing humanity has come up with so far | Feb 27 15:48 |
| MinceR | msb: yeah, i love the usian megacorps distorting markets and corrupting states so they won't have to compete | Feb 27 15:49 |
| MinceR | msb: after all, that's what the free market is all about, isn't it? | Feb 27 15:49 |
| msb | MinceR: What about the US attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, murdering two million. Are you OK with that? It's capitalism at work. | Feb 27 15:49 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure what that has to do with capitalism | Feb 27 15:49 |
| MinceR | other than that they might be in part rooted in the military-industrial complex trying to generate more demand for their products | Feb 27 15:50 |
| msb | US capitalists run the govt, and want to control the world to maximize their profits. | Feb 27 15:50 |
| MinceR | which means the US is neither democratic nor free-market. | Feb 27 15:50 |
| msb | That's true to. Murder for profit. | Feb 27 15:50 |
| MinceR | so why try so hard to paint me as a republican? | Feb 27 15:50 |
| msb | Because you say the same things they do. | Feb 27 15:51 |
| MinceR | unlike them, i mean those things. | Feb 27 15:51 |
| MinceR | and i don't say some other things they say. | Feb 27 15:51 |
| MinceR | and those things are important too. | Feb 27 15:51 |
| msb | You ignore the fact that in a society in which money=power rich people control the govt. | Feb 27 15:51 |
| MinceR | you ignore the fact that there is no society where money != power. | Feb 27 15:51 |
| msb | And enough of the rich people are psychopaths that the govt then does mass murder. | Feb 27 15:52 |
| MinceR | try to eliminate money itself and different resources will still work the same in its place. | Feb 27 15:52 |
| MinceR | if you have an authoritarian regime, a small number of crazy evil people do a lot of evil things | Feb 27 15:52 |
| msb | But if you have functioning democracy, functioning news media, a conscious population, and an egalitarian economic system, you can avoid getting an authoritarian regime. | Feb 27 15:54 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 15:54 |
| MinceR | but there are at least two competing interpretations of what an "egalitarian economic system" is. | Feb 27 15:54 |
| msb | In the US, the wealthy control the news media, and also do various things to keep the voters stupid and unconscious. So democracy can't work. | Feb 27 15:55 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 15:55 |
| MinceR | that's why the system needs to be changed so that democracy will work | Feb 27 15:55 |
| MinceR | the election system needs to stop upholding the two-party system, for example. | Feb 27 15:55 |
| MinceR | and net neutrality must be kept up so that the wealthy won't get to control all of the media. | Feb 27 15:56 |
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| msb | How do you feel about Social Democracy, in which, e.g., the ratio of highest to lowest salary in any company is limited to a factor of 8 or so? | Feb 27 15:56 |
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| MinceR | i'm not sure if such a limit would be healthy, and what it should be | Feb 27 15:57 |
| MinceR | and if it has been tried anywhere | Feb 27 15:57 |
| msb | How do you feel about a tax on wealth, not just income. | Feb 27 15:57 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure i'm comfortable with it, but i could go either way. | Feb 27 15:57 |
| msb | Social Democracy is used in the Scandinavian countries. | Feb 27 15:57 |
| MinceR | which of them have an explicit legal limit on salary differences? | Feb 27 15:57 |
| Sosumi | http://betanews.com/2014/02/26/microsofts-attempts-to-persuade-xp-users-to-switch-to-windows-8-1-miss-the-mark/ | Feb 27 16:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Microsoft's attempts to persuade XP users to switch to Windows 8.1 are wide of the mark [ http://ur1.ca/gpngm ] | Feb 27 16:04 | |
| Sosumi | yes, because a P4 will run it | Feb 27 16:05 |
| msb | MinceR: hard to find. only 44 google hits. | Feb 27 16:05 |
| MinceR | well, i was hoping you would already know | Feb 27 16:05 |
| msb | "in Germany the salary ratio of shopfloor worker/producer to ceo is around 20:1, in England around 40:1, in the united states i understand it is around 400:1" http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=03/12/31/3732693 | Feb 27 16:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.infoshop.org | On The Incompatibility Of Reform And Revolution - Infoshop News [ http://ur1.ca/gpnh6 ] | Feb 27 16:06 | |
| MinceR | actually i think such a rule would be circumvented extremely easily | Feb 27 16:06 |
| MinceR | spin off a company to do the low-income jobs and contract those services to that company | Feb 27 16:07 |
| msb | Not if there's a wealth tax too. | Feb 27 16:07 |
| MinceR | the wealth tax seems orthogonal to this | Feb 27 16:07 |
| msb | Large differences in wealth are harmful. | Feb 27 16:07 |
| MinceR | on the other hand, the wealth tax seems to be a more effective means to reduce wealth disparity | Feb 27 16:07 |
| msb | OK! The Republicans just kicked you out! | Feb 27 16:08 |
| MinceR | sure, but i'm not sure if they're harmful because of the difference or because of the fraudulent means by which they're usually accumulated | Feb 27 16:08 |
| msb | They're harmful because they give power to a few. As you said, money is always power. | Feb 27 16:08 |
| MinceR | i could find plenty of examples of people who have amassed great wealth by unfair means -- but this doesn't mean that amassing great wealth is evil by itself | Feb 27 16:09 |
| msb | It gets used for evil. sooner or later a psychopath comes along in the family, uses the wealth to control the govt, and starts dominating and murdering people. | Feb 27 16:10 |
| MinceR | it often does, but it doesn't have to be | Feb 27 16:10 |
| MinceR | another issue is how you deal with people inheriting great wealth | Feb 27 16:10 |
| msb | The great wealth should be gradually taxed away and distributed to non-wealthy (but still willing to work) people. | Feb 27 16:11 |
| msb | $10 million is enough for any family to live on. | Feb 27 16:12 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't approach this in term of families but in term of persons | Feb 27 16:13 |
| msb | If they can get a 5% ROI, that's $500K/year. | Feb 27 16:13 |
| MinceR | also, i'm not convinced that governments really need that much money | Feb 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | there's a lot of waste going on | Feb 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | buying msft licences, buying hypePads for MPs, for example | Feb 27 16:15 |
| MinceR | ironically, we hear republicans talking about how they want to reduce the government and reduce taxes while they do the exact opposite | Feb 27 16:16 |
| msb | Big expenses are maintaining a huge military, hundreds of bases around the world. | Feb 27 16:16 |
| MinceR | another example of waste | Feb 27 16:17 |
| msb | Much bigger than MSFT licenses or ipads. | Feb 27 16:17 |
| MinceR | and worse than that | Feb 27 16:17 |
| MinceR | the USA abuses the extra power it has over other states | Feb 27 16:17 |
| msb | Of course govts should use only FOSS. | Feb 27 16:17 |
| MinceR | (while it's being controlled by the megacorporations that effectively own both parties) | Feb 27 16:18 |
| msb | Now you're getting it! | Feb 27 16:18 |
| msb | Capitalism also wastes a lot of work and money on competition. | Feb 27 16:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: LibreOffice: ignore Microsoft's "nonsense" on government's open source plans http://t.co/zRzF5xVnR5 #libreoffice #odf | Feb 27 16:19 | |
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| MinceR | and yet capitalist economies are still massively more effective than communist ones. | Feb 27 16:19 |
| MinceR | competition _is_ important | Feb 27 16:19 |
| MinceR | and so is diversity. | Feb 27 16:19 |
| MinceR | democracy also has its running costs (for example, the extra cost of doing referenda and midterm elections) | Feb 27 16:20 |
| msb | Nicaraguans are much happier under socialism than under capitalist Somoza. | Feb 27 16:20 |
| MinceR | but it's still better than the known alternatives | Feb 27 16:20 |
| MinceR | would you be happier as a cuban non-state-party-member whom the government doesn't allow to access the internet? | Feb 27 16:21 |
| msb | If the US would stop attacking Cuba it would become more democratic. | Feb 27 16:21 |
| Sosumi | ukraine just sold 1.5 billion hryvnia of 5 years domestic notes at 11.5% yield | Feb 27 16:21 |
| Sosumi | to some spanish hedgefund | Feb 27 16:22 |
| MinceR | msb: i really doubt that | Feb 27 16:22 |
| msb | The US did the Bay of Pigs invasion, and sprayed Cuba with swine flu to kill their pigs and thrips palmii to kill their crops. | Feb 27 16:22 |
| MinceR | dictators don't tend to soften if they're left alone | Feb 27 16:22 |
| msb | Castro is/was not a greatly evil "dictator". | Feb 27 16:24 |
| MinceR | every dictator is greatly evil. | Feb 27 16:24 |
| msb | Cuba has a lot of democracy. | Feb 27 16:24 |
| MinceR | in propaganda, i'm sure | Feb 27 16:24 |
| msb | Obama is a dictator, ruling by executive orders. | Feb 27 16:24 |
| msb | and media lies. | Feb 27 16:25 |
| MinceR | when the government kindly allows the people to buy computers, that must be a lot of democracy | Feb 27 16:25 |
| MinceR | i doubt obama has that much power, he comes and goes | Feb 27 16:25 |
| MinceR | you should watch out for the people pulling his strings. | Feb 27 16:25 |
| MinceR | and yet i'm pretty sure that even the current system makes it easy for the voters to cast off their two-party rulers | Feb 27 16:26 |
| MinceR | just start voting for 'third parties' | Feb 27 16:26 |
| msb | Big corps, like the insurance and drug companies that wrote and benefit from obamacare. | Feb 27 16:26 |
| MinceR | it's their fault for not informing themselves and not voting that way. | Feb 27 16:26 |
| MinceR | meanwhile there's only one candidate on the ballot in north korea. | Feb 27 16:26 |
| MinceR | the only way out is revolution. | Feb 27 16:26 |
| msb | They get flooded with lies from the corporate media. | Feb 27 16:26 |
| MinceR | they have access to other media. | Feb 27 16:27 |
| MinceR | they could talk to each other. | Feb 27 16:27 |
| MinceR | most of them have access to the internet. | Feb 27 16:27 |
| msb | The koreans wanted to unify in the '50s. The US backed the dictator in the south, and murdered 30% of the population in the north, in the korean war. | Feb 27 16:28 |
| msb | That's why north korea is the hell that it is today. | Feb 27 16:28 |
| MinceR | and yet now the south is free and the north is one of the darkest, most brutal dictatorships on the planet. | Feb 27 16:28 |
| msb | yes | Feb 27 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695946 | Feb 27 16:29 |
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| schestowitz__ | Along with Facebook, you will have to kill Tor (distributing child porn is much worse then making buzz on domestic affairs). | Feb 27 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | And after it Diaspora (I have posted few times pictures of my kids, and I have seen others hackers posting also photos of their families) which has in mind 'domestic' interactions as well. | Feb 27 16:29 |
| schestowitz__ | I have also created a PicUp platform where I posted few pictures of my family... I guess it would also go down... | Feb 27 16:29 |
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| MinceR | so the US was on the right side after all. | Feb 27 16:30 |
| MinceR | bbl | Feb 27 16:30 |
| msb | No. If they US had not backed the fascists and attacked the north, the whole country would be free now. | Feb 27 16:30 |
| msb | Child porn can never be stopped unless the Net is totally censored. It may even be beneficial, if pedophiles use it for masturbation, instead of molesting actual children. | Feb 27 16:33 |
| msb | Since there's no doubt already plenty of kiddyporn available, no more children need be molested to make more. | Feb 27 16:34 |
| schestowitz__ | msb: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439072574916796416 | Feb 27 16:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Empire complex https://t.co/XmLq200y2p | Feb 27 16:34 | |
| msb | schestowitz__: Thanks, Roy! That's gotta go up on my site! | Feb 27 16:37 |
| schestowitz__ | My dad agrees with your views on US foreign policy | Feb 27 16:50 |
| schestowitz__ | But some of the other stuff you say needs reconsideration | Feb 27 16:51 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439079866617835520 | Feb 27 16:51 |
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| DaemonFC | [11:18] <MinceR> and yet capitalist economies are still massively more effective than communist ones. | Feb 27 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | The US economy is looking more like a communist one these days. | Feb 27 17:20 |
| DaemonFC | Try to sign up for internet service and you'll see what I mean. | Feb 27 17:21 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439085769379287041 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439088124350971904 | Feb 27 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tizen and Samsung http://t.co/0mh5nroVSM #tizen #android #samsung #linux | Feb 27 17:23 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Today in #Techrights http://t.co/LpMZPwIqDG | Feb 27 17:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9246609/Apple_retires_Snow_Leopard_from_support_leaves_1_in_5_Macs_vulnerable_to_attacks | Feb 27 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | Apple retires Snow Leopard from support, leaves 1 in 5 Macs vulnerable to attacks - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gpo7j ] | Feb 27 17:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Uhhhm, if they had $3,000 for the computer, then why can't they upgrade the operating system? | Feb 27 17:26 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 27 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | Dick Cheney is alive with no pulse. | Feb 27 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | I think that they're sneaking human victims to him so that he can eat their flesh and brains at this point. It's the only possible explanation for why he's still alive. | Feb 27 17:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Nyssen11/status/439100786128478208 | Feb 27 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nyssen11: @schestowitz So you like FF phones = ZTE & Alcatel = "ethical companies" ? | Feb 27 18:15 | |
| Sosumi | snow leopard has been unsupported after mountain lion was released | Feb 27 18:25 |
| Sosumi | aka 2012 | Feb 27 18:26 |
| Sosumi | with the only updates it received after that | Feb 27 18:27 |
| Sosumi | being very critical stuff | Feb 27 18:27 |
| Sosumi | also, lion isn't supported anymore | Feb 27 18:28 |
| Sosumi | only mountain lion and moronicks are supported at moment | Feb 27 18:29 |
| Sosumi | until the next release comes in | Feb 27 18:29 |
| Sosumi | then mountain lion loses support | Feb 27 18:29 |
| MinceR | re | Feb 27 18:36 |
| MinceR | 173027 < msb> No. If they US had not backed the fascists and attacked the north, the whole country would be free now. | Feb 27 18:36 |
| MinceR | citation needed | Feb 27 18:37 |
| MinceR | 173340 < msb> Since there's no doubt already plenty of kiddyporn available, no more children need be molested to make more. | Feb 27 18:37 |
| MinceR | it's a pity catholic priests won't settle for porn | Feb 27 18:37 |
| MinceR | 192507 < Sosumi> snow leopard has been unsupported after mountain lion was released | Feb 27 18:38 |
| MinceR | extra confusion: Mountain Lion is supported but Puma isn't | Feb 27 18:39 |
| MinceR | but those are the same species. | Feb 27 18:39 |
| Sosumi | spelling or grammar errors happen when I'm working and just give a quick glance to the irc window | Feb 27 18:42 |
| MinceR | i didn't notice any, nor was looking for them :> | Feb 27 18:44 |
| Sosumi | forget the names of the cats | Feb 27 18:44 |
| MinceR | i'm making fun of crApple's naming decisions | Feb 27 18:44 |
| Sosumi | 10.6 lost support in 2012 | Feb 27 18:44 |
| Sosumi | not now | Feb 27 18:44 |
| MinceR | they should release Cougar next | Feb 27 18:45 |
| Sosumi | crapple kills support for their OS after the 2nd release | Feb 27 18:45 |
| Sosumi | a cougar is a mountain lion | Feb 27 18:45 |
| MinceR | and so's a puma | Feb 27 18:45 |
| MinceR | their "support" is worthless, their critical security updates lag for ages | Feb 27 18:45 |
| Sosumi | or a 40 - 50 years old women wearing heavy make up and provocative clothing | Feb 27 18:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 27 18:46 |
| MinceR | that might be a bit too long for a codename, though | Feb 27 18:46 |
| Sosumi | trying to score some hits with younger guys | Feb 27 18:46 |
| Sosumi | if that surprises you, then imagine the time they take until they acknowledge there's an issue | Feb 27 18:47 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 27 18:47 |
| MinceR | they still acknowledge issues faster than their fans do :> | Feb 27 18:47 |
| Sosumi | they still haven't fixed the thunderebolt sleep issues | Feb 27 18:47 |
| Sosumi | their 2011 laptops with amd gpus seem to be dying | Feb 27 18:48 |
| Sosumi | apparently in the same fashion all the gt8600m laptops did | Feb 27 18:49 |
| Sosumi | back in 2008 | Feb 27 18:49 |
| Sosumi | or 2007 | Feb 27 18:49 |
| Sosumi | with blurred lines and artifacts | Feb 27 18:49 |
| Sosumi | until no video signal | Feb 27 18:50 |
| MinceR | see, that's the famous crApple quality :> | Feb 27 18:50 |
| Sosumi | the problem is with amd | Feb 27 18:51 |
| Sosumi | actually it is with both | Feb 27 18:51 |
| Sosumi | I actually think the part is failing due to heat stress | Feb 27 18:52 |
| Sosumi | given the poor cooling design on the unibody macbooks | Feb 27 18:52 |
| Sosumi | and amd for failing to build a part actually capable to handle the stress according to their specification | Feb 27 18:52 |
| Sosumi | the case with the nvidia gt8600m was a defective batch | Feb 27 18:53 |
| Sosumi | since failings were not only happening on crapple laptops but also hp's | Feb 27 18:54 |
| Sosumi | something similar also happened with the gt8800 gpus | Feb 27 18:57 |
| msb | MinceR: Catholic priests are forbidden from having sex, which is always done for control purposes. That's the primary problem there. Also, gay kiddyporn is illegal, so they would have a hard time getting it. | Feb 27 18:59 |
| msb | MinceR: As to korea, I F Stone wrote about it. Students from north and south were demonstrating for unification. My claim that if the US had not backed the fascist torturer/murderer in the south, and had not bombed strafed napalmed 30% of the population in the north, that a united country would be free, is a deduction. | Feb 27 19:02 |
| msb | Govts always become (more) authoritarian when their nation is subjected to a genocidal attack. Attempting to survive. | Feb 27 19:04 |
| MinceR | they had russia and red china nearby trying to make as many commie states as they could | Feb 27 19:16 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/1IWjMjk.png | Feb 27 19:18 |
| Sosumi | task manager telling that at least an instance of task manager isn't working | Feb 27 19:33 |
| Sosumi | lol m$ | Feb 27 19:33 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/deep-black-more-details-on-boeings-new-secure-android-smartphone/ | Feb 27 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Deep Black: More details on Boeing’s new secure Android smartphone | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gppqd ] | Feb 27 20:34 | |
| Sosumi | do you want one? | Feb 27 20:34 |
| Sosumi | I don't | Feb 27 20:35 |
| MinceR | i'm fine with my current phone for now | Feb 27 20:35 |
| MinceR | i'm waiting for tizen, mostly :> | Feb 27 20:35 |
| Sosumi | I still think that nexus 5 with a custom rom or android open source > all | Feb 27 20:35 |
| MinceR | yeah, it seems good | Feb 27 20:36 |
| MinceR | not sure if it works with only free software, though | Feb 27 20:36 |
| Sosumi | well ofc not, the android implementation on the boeing phone is close source | Feb 27 20:37 |
| Sosumi | just like the samsung version | Feb 27 20:38 |
| Sosumi | and the modification they the knox platform | Feb 27 20:38 |
| Sosumi | *call | Feb 27 20:38 |
| MinceR | pft | Feb 27 20:38 |
| Sosumi | if only google had released android under gpl | Feb 27 20:39 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 27 20:39 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Feb 27 20:39 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 20:39 |
| MinceR | hay sebsebseb | Feb 27 20:39 |
| Sosumi | sebsebseb, have you finally made the "big" jump? | Feb 27 20:40 |
| MinceR | rocket jump with quad damage? | Feb 27 20:40 |
| MinceR | redeemer jump? | Feb 27 20:41 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: what big jump ? | Feb 27 20:41 |
| Sosumi | onto the macintosh, of course :) | Feb 27 20:42 |
| MinceR | interesting way to break it | Feb 27 20:42 |
| Sosumi | sebsebseb, cheer on | Feb 27 20:44 |
| Sosumi | just a trolling attempt :P | Feb 27 20:44 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/spy-agency-intercepts-yahoo-webcam-chats-nudes-and-all/ | Feb 27 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Spy agency intercepts Yahoo webcam chats, nudes and all | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gpq0l ] | Feb 27 21:03 | |
| Sosumi | probably there's no longer enough budget left for a playboy subscription | Feb 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | consensual doesn't turn them on | Feb 27 21:07 |
| Sosumi | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | Feb 27 21:08 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/02/26/352307/german-economic-powerhouse-on-sand/ | Feb 27 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.presstv.com | PressTV - German economy a process of brutal exploitation: Economist [ http://ur1.ca/gpqdx ] | Feb 27 21:45 | |
| Sosumi | it is true | Feb 27 21:45 |
| Sosumi | finally, someone wrote about it | Feb 27 21:45 |
| MinceR | http://kep.cdn.index.hu/1/0/558/5583/55835/5583524_00ce04802323799cc0e5e05cef030f7d_wm.jpg | Feb 27 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx10N7ZSXPIL35T | Feb 27 22:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Church sign in Harlem [ http://ur1.ca/gpqo3 ] | Feb 27 22:17 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 27 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | It just goes to prove that black Christians can be just as crazy as white Christians. | Feb 27 22:17 |
| DaemonFC | I think it speaks volumes for how far they've come in the world, where a white Christian bigot such as yourself is perfectly comfortable quoting a black Christian bigot. | Feb 27 22:17 |
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| DaemonFC | I really need to get some decaf coffee. | Feb 28 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 28 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | Why does California have the most lawyers while New Jersey has the most toxic waste dumps? | Feb 28 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | New Jersey got the first pick. | Feb 28 00:28 |
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| msb | Sosumi: That presstv article about the German economy is very good! Thanks! | Feb 28 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I don't feel like cooking tonight, | Feb 28 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | I might just make some beefaroni for dinner. | Feb 28 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | msb: Can you believe people feed this stuff to their kids? | Feb 28 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | Probably made of diseased animal remnants. | Feb 28 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | Probably requires an enema to flush it back out... | Feb 28 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | People feed it to their kids. | Feb 28 00:57 |
| msb | DaemonFC: I just ate a "fire-grilled steak" + veg + rice mix brandname "Evol". Delicious! $4 from Safeway. | Feb 28 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | We don't have Safeway here. | Feb 28 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's Walmart or Kroger. | Feb 28 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | Fort Wayne has Meijer as well, and maybe a Marsh or two if they haven't closed. | Feb 28 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | Marsh is really expensive. | Feb 28 01:00 |
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| msb | DaemonFC: beefaroni is actually made from dead diseased animals. They have to be dead for at least a week to be cheap enough. | Feb 28 01:00 |
| msb | Evol is a new brand. But not a safeway brand. Maybe it's at one of your supermarkets. | Feb 28 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Feb 28 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | ibotta has been offering me like a dollar or something to buy one of their frozen burritos | Feb 28 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Feb 28 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | I should really start buying that whole wheat pasta. | Feb 28 01:03 |
| msb | Red Baron pizzas are good. Blot the fat off after you nuke them, and sprinkle on garlic and oregano to taste. Sometimes $3.50, usually $7. Feeds two. | Feb 28 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, feeds two means that I'll eat two of them. | Feb 28 01:03 |
| msb | I'm big and am overstuffed after eating one. | Feb 28 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | I like those special deluxe ones. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | and the Mexican ones if I can find them. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| msb | I should leave some for another meal but it tastes too good. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | I can eat a whole one. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| msb | yes, I get the special deluxe type. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | I liked to dump jalapeno peppers and sour cream and salsa all over the mexican ones. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | I usually only eat once a day. | Feb 28 01:05 |
| msb | Woof! | Feb 28 01:05 |
| msb | With cheap food and free porn one can live a happy life! | Feb 28 01:06 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah....... | Feb 28 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | Well, porn isn't very interactive, but at least there aren't any fights and there's an off button when you want it to go away. | Feb 28 01:07 |
| msb | I even made a bash script using mplayer that loads specified videos and plays specified spans of them at specified speeds, and repeats. | Feb 28 01:08 |
| msb | mplayer has a whole programmable interface, very easy to use, takes commands from stdin and prints location in seconds to stdout. No C programming needed, just bash. | Feb 28 01:10 |
| msb | I also wrote one to remove channel logos from TV videos. | Feb 28 01:11 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't like those. It turns the logo into a translucent blob. | Feb 28 01:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Windows intuitive http://t.co/Bh7EmXydTL | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #gchq hires perverts not only to spy on porn surfing habits of "targets" http://t.co/J9erQi1Bkt | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Spy agency intercepts Yahoo webcam chats, nudes and all | Ars Technica | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Not just #microsoft #skype exposes videos in real-time to creepy British+US spies http://t.co/s2yMYosyMY ... https://t.co/kKNx4R5GwC | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | GCHQ's interception and storage of Yahoo webcam images condemned | World news | theguardian.com | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joindiaspora.com | Not just #microso... | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439212615190216706 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439212680046710784 | Feb 28 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Apple retires Snow Leopard from support, leaves 1 in 5 Macs vulnerable http://t.co/IOX8P5jvWL pay up or die: hallmark of nonfree software | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworld.com | Apple retires Snow Leopard from support, leaves 1 in 5 Macs vulnerable to attacks - Computerworld | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Yesterday, for the first time, I checked log files for varnish at #tuxmachines and #techrights : ~1000 lines per second. | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Uhhm, I did some stuff on Yahoo webcam, but it was like 10-11 years ago... | Feb 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care if they recorded it. I don't consider it embarrassing. | Feb 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason this stuff has blackmail value is because people find it embarrassing, which is ridiculous. | Feb 28 01:42 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.reddit.com/r/Frugal/comments/1nn24w/help_me_out_with_a_cheap_beefaroni_clone/ | Feb 28 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Help me out with a cheap Beefaroni clone! : Frugal [ http://ur1.ca/gps9w ] | Feb 28 01:49 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how much cheaper it gets. I got it for 65 cents per can on sale + coupons. | Feb 28 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | msb: My stepdad's sister is on some kind of heart healthy diet or something. | Feb 28 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | Her cardiologist said "If it tastes good, spit it out.". | Feb 28 01:53 |
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| msb | That's ridiculous! Take ubiquinol, carnitine, vit E, vit C, B vits, fish oil for heart. | Feb 28 01:58 |
| BfreeCsex | any wone here ? | Feb 28 01:59 |
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| msb | mplayer delogo works like this, and blends in very well. You specify a rectangle that wholly (but barely) contains the logo. For any point inside the rectangle, extend a horizontal line and a vertical line to the sides of the rectangle, making 4 intersection points. Average the color of those 4 points and make the internal point that color. | Feb 28 02:00 |
| msb | You can specify multiple rectangles if there's more than one logo. | Feb 28 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | msb: there are plenty of fruits and vegetables that you can eat raw that are perfectly find for a heart healthy diet. | Feb 28 02:02 |
| msb | PF Chang frozen chinese food is yummy. | Feb 28 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | That doctor is an idiot. | Feb 28 02:02 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439215348521652224 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439215777385025536 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216013344010240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216205980008448 | Feb 28 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: GNOME Display Manager 3.12 Beta 1 Brings FreeBSD Build Fixes http://t.co/S7GZPfA4aI #bsd #freebsd #gnome | Feb 28 02:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Boeing makes Orwellian phones with #android #linux http://t.co/MRJNxKK0Y2 http://t.co/c1OQOfw6NU like #ibm 'innovation': self destruction | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Deep Black: More details on Boeing’s new secure Android smartphone | Ars Technica | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eweek.com | Blackphone, Boeing Self-Destructing Phone Are Security Motivated | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Mobile Linux OSes Innovate, Cut Costs as Smartphone Market Slows http://t.co/Gp24hvxONo #linux | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Mobile Linux OSes Innovate, Cut Costs as Smartphone Market Slows | Linux.com | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Shuttleworth says Ubuntu is sticking with MySQL http://t.co/YDbAm4UkFh #oracle #mysql #canonical #ubuntu | Feb 28 02:03 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216567520608256 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216726375673856 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216941740593153https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439217056396115968 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439217056396115968 | Feb 28 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: First Beta of Epiphany 3.12 Web Browser Brings a Revamped Location Bar http://t.co/mRiJtL99Qo #gnome #gnu #linux | Feb 28 02:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Debian for OpenRISC http://t.co/5LYWWVjilg #risc #debian #gnu #linux | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lists.opencores.org | [Openrisc] Introducing: Debian for OpenRISC | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Four Chrome extensions to make #Chromebook web reading easier http://t.co/kBs1yVZhI8 #gnu #linux #google | Feb 28 02:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Four Chrome extensions to make #Chromebook web reading easier http://t.co/kBs1yVZhI8 #gnu #linux #google | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| msb | Personally I favor grape tomatoes and navel oranges. But I take lots of vitamins. | Feb 28 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | I like those months when Subway has any footlong for $5. | Feb 28 02:04 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439217232691077122 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439217376320827392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439217688121192448 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439218010507976704 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216941740593153 | Feb 28 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #YunTab S5 Android phone uses 3D infrared for secure face unlock http://t.co/GCB8kbUa3a #android #linux | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> reviews.cnet.com | YunTab S5 Android phone uses 3D infrared for secure face unlock | Mobile World Congress - CNET Reviews | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Exciting Features Coming For Qt 5.3 http://t.co/cxd6RYFVtC #qt #kde | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Exciting Features Coming For Qt 5.3 | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google may start selling Ara phones for $50 http://t.co/L3tKZhHQBQ #ara #google #android #linux | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| DaemonFC | I end up eating subs every day. :P | Feb 28 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Google may start selling Ara phones for $50 | Muktware | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Android/Linux Overtakes XP on Weekends http://t.co/o2gUZu3R7L people leave offices with #microsoft | Feb 28 02:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: To avoid Android pitfalls, Mozilla shoulders Firefox OS update burden http://t.co/ZHC4cA7lOR #android #firefoxos #firefox #linux | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> reviews.cnet.com | To avoid Android pitfalls, Mozilla shoulders Firefox OS update burden | Mobile World Congress - CNET Reviews | Feb 28 02:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: The version of Android you run doesn't actually matter all that much. | Feb 28 02:10 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3699326 | Feb 28 02:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Android/Linux Ove... | Feb 28 02:11 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I'm always skeptical of these statistics." | Feb 28 02:11 |
| msb | DaemonFC: When you eat lunchmeat (eg, subs) containing nitrite, drink a few grams of vitamin C to neutralize the nitrosamines that otherwise can cause colon cancer. | Feb 28 02:31 |
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| DaemonFC | msb: The colon is quite a disgusting thing. | Feb 28 02:34 |
| msb | We're all full of shit. | Feb 28 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Over the course of months or years, slime and encrusted fecal matter, etc. can build up in it, and well, it can cause a whole lot of bad things to happen. | Feb 28 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | From constipation, to bloating, gas, even a bowel impaction. | Feb 28 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. The occasional enema is not a bad idea. | Feb 28 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Or an osmotic laxative. | Feb 28 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | Miralax every once in a while can help keep things moving. | Feb 28 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | But, the biggest problem that most people seem to have is not remaining hydrated well enough. | Feb 28 02:36 |
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| DaemonFC | A person my size should be drinking 3 liters of water every day. | Feb 28 02:37 |
| msb | The idea that stuff builds up on the inside of the colon is nonsense. Unless you are severely dehydrated, the colon secretes mucus that keeps anything from sticking. | Feb 28 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | Then what is that godawful sludge that an enema forces out? | Feb 28 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | I've read conflicting reports about whether colonic irrigation is recommended or even safe. | Feb 28 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | Some doctors seem to say yes, and other seem to say no. | Feb 28 02:39 |
| msb | And if you eat enough fruits and vegetables, the fiber will retain enough water to keep the shit soft. | Feb 28 02:40 |
| msb | It's a scam and a racket. | Feb 28 02:40 |
| msb | Remember that people with HIV secrete virus into their colon. | Feb 28 02:41 |
| msb | So those colonic dives are unsafe. | Feb 28 02:42 |
| abeNd-org1 | better to just eat healthy & excercise to begin with. stay healthy, a lot easier than trying to get healthy again | Feb 28 02:43 |
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| DaemonFC | I've dated a few people who have that, but I do not have it. | Feb 28 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | Budas Root says: | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's not a crime to dislike fundies. In fact, if I owned a bakery I'd refuse to make cakes for fundies no matter how much money they offered to pay me. | Feb 28 03:10 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'd bake them a cake. | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | It would be like that movie "The Help" where the black lady made that mean woman the pie with her **** in it and then waited until she had eaten half of it and then said "Eat my ****!". | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | What did you say? | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | "I said EAT MY ****!" | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b675xQ1X20 | Feb 28 03:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Help - "Eat My Shit" - YouTube | Feb 28 03:11 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3699299 | Feb 28 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | First Beta of Epi... | Feb 28 07:43 | |
| schestowitz__ | "looks very...chromeish" | Feb 28 07:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "looks very...chrome ish" | Feb 28 07:43 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/02/tories-campaign-against-scottish-independence-shock/ | Feb 28 07:48 |
| schestowitz__ | "Standard Life also threatened to leave at the time of the devolution referendum and gave out no campaign materials to staff. “Leave” of course is a relative concept – the above bunch just pop up from London from time to time to check on how the serfs are doing.' | Feb 28 07:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Tories Campaign Against Scottish Independence (Shock) [ http://ur1.ca/gpup2 ] | Feb 28 07:48 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Feb 28 11:06 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695848 | Feb 28 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Obama Requests NS... | Feb 28 11:07 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I hope you're right Roy. I hope you're right." | Feb 28 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: I've just made this http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/46608003.jpg | Feb 28 11:12 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 28 11:16 |
| Sosumi | more issues with trashcan pro | Feb 28 11:19 |
| Sosumi | http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1711435 | Feb 28 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | MacPro 2013 Random Restarts - MacRumors Forums [ http://ur1.ca/gpwec ] | Feb 28 11:19 | |
| Sosumi | apparently even crapple can't build their toys properly anymore | Feb 28 11:19 |
| Sosumi | their kind of turning into the M$ of the hardware business | Feb 28 11:20 |
| Sosumi | *they're | Feb 28 11:20 |
| MinceR | they were unable to for ages | Feb 28 11:22 |
| MinceR | (see crApple III) | Feb 28 11:22 |
| MinceR | and they've been the other m$ for a long time now | Feb 28 11:23 |
| Sosumi | don't go that far | Feb 28 11:23 |
| Sosumi | I wasn't around during that time | Feb 28 11:23 |
| MinceR | i wasn't around either | Feb 28 11:25 |
| Sosumi | but from what I remember their g5 powermacs, later powerbooks were quite solid | Feb 28 11:25 |
| Sosumi | the xserve was nice too, but prone to be bent | Feb 28 11:25 |
| MinceR | in that they weren't liquid, gaseous or plasma | Feb 28 11:25 |
| Sosumi | the issue with the leaks was due to some defective rings on the pumps manufactured and assembled by delphi | Feb 28 11:26 |
| Sosumi | the panasonic models didn't have that problem | Feb 28 11:26 |
| Sosumi | I have one of those, a quad g5, and is still working like champ | Feb 28 11:27 |
| Sosumi | and they didn't have these major crappings and issues left unfixed for months or years | Feb 28 11:27 |
| Sosumi | damm I even remember when World of Warcraft ran faster on OSX than it did on XP | Feb 28 11:28 |
| Sosumi | and the mac client having built in video capture | Feb 28 11:28 |
| Sosumi | while the windows version didn't | Feb 28 11:28 |
| MinceR | yes, crApple always fails to choose their suppliers -- or adds pointless gimmicks that turn proven designs into dangerous failures | Feb 28 11:29 |
| Sosumi | just like HP? no nippon-chemi, rubicon nor fujitsu capacitors on their z820 workstation | Feb 28 11:30 |
| MinceR | at least hp doesn't have their Mag"Safe"s :> | Feb 28 11:31 |
| Sosumi | also the first time I saw the delphi brand was on a car radiator | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | and they are ok | Feb 28 11:32 |
| MinceR | what brand of car? | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | it was even manufactured in poortugal and everything | Feb 28 11:32 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | a ford | Feb 28 11:32 |
| MinceR | Found On Road Dead | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | ford fiesta from 2002 | Feb 28 11:32 |
| MinceR | Fix Or Replace Daily | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | I think | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | ^^ | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | what about renault? | Feb 28 11:33 |
| MinceR | afaik french cars are famous for being unreliable | Feb 28 11:33 |
| MinceR | but at least they also tend to be cheap :> | Feb 28 11:33 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 28 11:33 |
| Sosumi | my ranault 21 has been quite reliable | Feb 28 11:33 |
| Sosumi | as for the magsafes they ended up making the connector out of aluminum ir order to prevent melting | Feb 28 11:36 |
| Sosumi | which is kind of lol | Feb 28 11:36 |
| MinceR | it's a pity aluminum is conductive | Feb 28 11:36 |
| MinceR | and also conducts heat | Feb 28 11:36 |
| Sosumi | I was going to say that | Feb 28 11:37 |
| Sosumi | with the added joke of roasted mactard | Feb 28 11:37 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 28 11:37 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552 | Feb 28 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@danbarker: .@mattcutts I think I have spotted one, Matt. Note the similarities in the content text: http://t.co/uHux3rK57f | Feb 28 12:51 | |
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| Sosumi | yanukovich said west instigated the riots | Feb 28 13:58 |
| Sosumi | then why play chicken? say that in public tv and order a clamp down? | Feb 28 13:59 |
| Sosumi | simple and clean | Feb 28 13:59 |
| Sosumi | ínstead of fleeing to russia with his tail in between his legs | Feb 28 13:59 |
| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/joeman42/status/430783817075675136/photo/1 | Feb 28 14:02 |
| Sosumi | god's chosen people | Feb 28 14:02 |
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| Sosumi | which also happen to be eastern europeans | Feb 28 14:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joeman42: Zionist Settlers taunt Palestinian lady after they evict her from her home. #BDS http://t.co/7EJRYkV2IN | Feb 28 14:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joeman42: Zionist Settlers taunt Palestinian lady after they evict her from her home. #BDS http://t.co/7EJRYkV2IN | Feb 28 14:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Navsteva: Potty-mouthed Vicky Nuland gets her new government in #Ukraine http://t.co/QSFFi5RfKU http://t.co/gcPYLjfKen | Feb 28 15:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> larouchepac.com | Vicky Nuland Gets Her New Government in Ukraine | Feb 28 15:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Navsteva: Potty-mouthed Vicky Nuland gets her new government in #Ukraine http://t.co/QSFFi5RfKU http://t.co/gcPYLjfKen | Feb 28 15:51 | |
| Agnesi | too bad the post is sponsored by Lyndon Larouche | Feb 28 15:51 |
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| Sosumi | and I can't believe it | Feb 28 15:56 |
| Sosumi | that old fossil is still alive | Feb 28 15:56 |
| Sosumi | with 90 somethings years old | Feb 28 15:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Hands down the best stencil art I've seen out here in Afghanistan - Imgur | Feb 28 19:56 | |
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| Sosumi | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57619685-92/ibm-laying-off-up-to-25-percent-of-hardware-division/ | Feb 28 21:53 |
| Sosumi | IBM gutting itself up | Feb 28 21:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.cnet.com | IBM laying off up to 25 percent of 'hardware' division | Business Tech - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gq1zg ] | Feb 28 21:53 | |
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| Agnesi | and freenode seems to be unstable | Feb 28 21:54 |
| Agnesi | also situation in ukraine worse now | Feb 28 21:54 |
| Agnesi | as things go | Feb 28 21:54 |
| Agnesi | crimea is to separate from ukraine | Feb 28 21:54 |
| MinceR | will it be annexed by russia? | Feb 28 21:55 |
| Agnesi | with pro russian militias taking over borders, parliament and at least a tv station | Feb 28 21:55 |
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| 7JTAABHHX | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.74 | Feb 28 22:11 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 28 23:03 |
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| sebsebseb_ | jono: ping. I would like to get some Ubuntu stuff if possible for an event on 15th March. I had contacted people before, but no good. mmhallsuggested filling in a form, looking at that now, it seems to be for an amount of money etc. apparnatly it woul go directy to you as well | Feb 28 23:41 |
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| MinceR | gn | Mar 01 01:15 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-us-ukraine-20140301,0,3629725,full.story | Mar 01 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Russia is beginning their invasion of Ukraine. | Mar 01 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pissed that ebay stopped people from selling coupons. | Mar 01 04:44 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3703004 | Mar 01 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | "I would be a lot happier if people were building out their own networks and peering with each other in addition to yelling loudly at the government overlords. Which, by the way, usually get into office with the money of the very people who are causing problem we want fixed." | Mar 01 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC: sounds to me like Western propaganda | Mar 01 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | I heard it on the radio here this morning | Mar 01 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Remember the Western role played in the coup | Mar 01 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3700197 | Mar 01 07:35 |
| schestowitz__ | "In other words, they are doing nothing to fix the concerns of the people, doing everything they can to increase the serveilance of those very people, all the while telling everybody that they are fixing things." | Mar 01 07:35 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3700179 | Mar 01 07:37 |
| schestowitz__ | "Face to face, with no electronics nearby that can be hacked and turned into microphones..." | Mar 01 07:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3705121 | Mar 01 07:37 |
| schestowitz__ | "Roling on the floor laughing !" | Mar 01 07:37 |
| schestowitz__ | http://rt.com/news/un-ukraine-russia-agreements-278/ | Mar 01 07:45 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.74 | Mar 01 07:45 |
| msb | schestowitz__: Right, Roy, the U.S. invaded Ukraine using hordes of armed masked nazis as proxies, and now Obomber is telling Russia to keep out of it. | Mar 01 07:50 |
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| DaemonFC | Shit. | Mar 01 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | A snow storm with 6-10 inches of snow possible will occur this evening. | Mar 01 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | This is basically unheard of. | Mar 01 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen this happen in March. Ever. | Mar 01 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | Hell, just two years ago, it we over 80 degrees for nearly two weeks in the middle of March. | Mar 01 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I had better go grocery shopping. | Mar 01 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung has announced the Galaxy S5, apparently. | Mar 01 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | The specs are not that much better than my LG G2. | Mar 01 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | The LG G2 has a Snapdragon 800 and 2 GB of RAM. The G5 has a Snapdragon 801 and 2 GB of RAM. | Mar 01 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | I believe that Samsung is known for piling on custom crap that slows down their phones though. | Mar 01 08:20 |
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| DaemonFC | I'd better get to ALDI when they open. | Mar 01 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | People go apeshit when a snowstorm is approaching. | Mar 01 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | They'll probably be out of everything if I don't get there soon. | Mar 01 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm out of almost everything. I've been choking down stuff that I bought and threw in the freezer months ago without thinking about for nearly a week now, just so I could get rid of it without wasting money. | Mar 01 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | The good news is that most of it is gone now and won't be wasted, but the bad news is that I'm really craving some good food right now. :) | Mar 01 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx3NLMLDXFC3YAR&newContentID=Mx3PNZBCI38A89Q#Mx3PNZBCI38A89Q | Mar 01 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The Motley Fool wonders aloud about whether Walmart will fail soon. [ http://ur1.ca/gq67j ] | Mar 01 10:27 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 01 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/02/could-wal-mart-be-the-next-giant-failure-in-retail.aspx | Mar 01 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | A few days after CNBC reported on Walmart's negative year over year same store sales comp, and suggested that they should start shutting down stores, starting with the 100 least profitable, The Motley Fool writes an article expressing similar pessimism about Walmart's future in retail, musing that it's possible to see Walmart in bankruptcy protection within several years if these trends continue. | Mar 01 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fool.com | Could Wal-Mart Be the Next Giant Failure in Retail? (WMT) [ http://ur1.ca/gq67o ] | Mar 01 10:27 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.rantlifestyle.com/2014/02/20/business-plan-wal-mart-revealed/ | Mar 01 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rantlifestyle.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gq67p ] | Mar 01 10:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, another article notes that the stores are understocked, filthy, and staffed by employees who are unmotivated. The lack of motivation is understandable. Minimum wage part time jobs with no job security or benefits package tends to cause that attitude. | Mar 01 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/09/24/2669191/walmart-adds-fulltime-workers/ | Mar 01 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | After Sales Plummet, Walmart Realizes It Can't Run Stores On Temps Alone [ http://ur1.ca/gq67q ] | Mar 01 10:27 | |
| DaemonFC | For the past couple of years, an unprecedented number of Walmart workers are temps, who have low pay and no benefits, and don't even know if they'll have a job in three months. The figure is up to 20% of a store's employees. These people are forced to re-interview for their job every 90 days. | Mar 01 10:27 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Mar 01 14:55 |
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| DaemonFC | I got a roast kit while I was at ALDI. | Mar 01 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | I think I'll make that for dinner. | Mar 01 16:28 |
| Sosumi | in soviet russia, roasting kit as you for diner at the ALDI store | Mar 01 16:30 |
| Sosumi | :) | Mar 01 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | The local KMart is going out of business. | Mar 01 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | That's sad. Now it's just down to Walmart and Big Lots. | Mar 01 16:31 |
| Sosumi | no small stores around? | Mar 01 16:31 |
| Sosumi | other than those big retailers | Mar 01 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | not really | Mar 01 16:32 |
| Sosumi | sad | Mar 01 16:32 |
| schestowitz__ | aldi is good, but I started exploring alternatives | Mar 01 16:48 |
| schestowitz__ | the range in aldi is limited | Mar 01 16:48 |
| Sosumi | do you guys have lidl stores there in theUS? | Mar 01 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | no | Mar 01 16:49 |
| Sosumi | they're quite complete and often sell national produce | Mar 01 16:49 |
| Sosumi | :( | Mar 01 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even really look at the prices at aldi. I just know I'll get a good deal. | Mar 01 16:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3706253 | Mar 01 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Steam Family 'Sharing' of #DRM now open to public http://www.muktware.com/2014/03/steam-family-sharing-now-open-public/21950 sharing the unshare-able. #steam #gnu #linux | Mar 01 16:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Steam Family Sharing now open to public | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gq8f3 ] | Mar 01 16:51 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Good, my sons will be ready soon to takeover my collection!" | Mar 01 16:51 |
| schestowitz__ | Until Valve decided to take it away | Mar 01 16:51 |
| schestowitz__ | *decides | Mar 01 16:51 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3706229 | Mar 01 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #RFID race (implants in people) was made obsolete by social and professional inertia that pressured people into carrying tracking gear | Mar 01 16:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | "In the US is was made obsolete by states telling the feds to fuck off lol..."\ | Mar 01 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706211 | Mar 01 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | No way to disable... | Mar 01 16:53 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I think Replicant would have helped more than tin foil ;)" | Mar 01 16:53 |
| schestowitz__ | Replicant still contacts the towers | Mar 01 16:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706137 | Mar 01 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | It was not a "rot... | Mar 01 16:54 | |
| schestowitz__ | "and when he resisted blackmail and continued to be effective, he was assassinated. Murder is in the toolbox." | Mar 01 16:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706043 | Mar 01 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Everyone should a... | Mar 01 16:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Hope iit becomes hot and catches on!" | Mar 01 16:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706017 | Mar 01 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | A lot of business... | Mar 01 16:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | "We've been making a list!!" | Mar 01 16:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706067 | Mar 01 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Wakeup call for C... | Mar 01 16:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | ""We can trust the NSA because without a doubt it is history's most powerful, pervasive, sophisticated surveillance agency ever to be totally pwned by a 29-year-old with a thumb drive," I would much rather he had gone to Trustycon, but you have to admit, that's pithy." | Mar 01 16:55 |
| schestowitz__ | Trustycon is funded by PRISM members like Microsoft. | Mar 01 16:56 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706211 | Mar 01 17:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "Yeah I was just joking lol..." | Mar 01 17:01 |
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| msb | http://rt.com/op-edge/us-usa-staged-ukraine-coup-570/ | Mar 01 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | ‘US, EU staged classic regime change in Ukraine’ — RT Op-Edge [ http://ur1.ca/gq8wm ] | Mar 01 18:48 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Mar 01 20:17 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Mar 01 20:34 |
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| gde33 | I've been toying with all sorts of ideas for a rich peoples internet. All the fun [read paid] services that become possible all of a sudden. lol | Mar 01 21:59 |
| gde33 | I think we should look at it like football channel, a nice method to contain the phenomenon | Mar 01 22:00 |
| gde33 | thanks to football channel they dont have to put football on all of the other channels | Mar 01 22:00 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, this doesn't work with countries | Mar 01 22:00 |
| MinceR | everyone's got to get authoritarianism | Mar 01 22:01 |
| gde33 | a good advertisement program would primarly target the rich peoples internet | Mar 01 22:01 |
| gde33 | we could move all that stuff overthere :D | Mar 01 22:01 |
| gde33 | hahaha | Mar 01 22:01 |
| gde33 | all of our liars and all of our swindlers | Mar 01 22:01 |
| gde33 | imagine the joy? | Mar 01 22:02 |
| gde33 | I had annother idea | Mar 01 22:04 |
| gde33 | a web search that requires buying hardware to get access | Mar 01 22:05 |
| MinceR | ...per query | Mar 01 22:05 |
| gde33 | like a virtual private network with network attached storage at every node | Mar 01 22:05 |
| gde33 | then one would have to pay to get indexed | Mar 01 22:05 |
| gde33 | no crawler nonsense, full text search | Mar 01 22:06 |
| gde33 | you buy 1 node, make sure it stays active, then have access to the database | Mar 01 22:06 |
| gde33 | like a seedbox router | Mar 01 22:07 |
| gde33 | I suppose the user account could be credited for each query routed | Mar 01 22:11 |
| gde33 | bars of latinum | Mar 01 22:23 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/02/ukrainians-are-having-delightful-day-abandoned-presidential-palace/358393/ | Feb 23 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thewire.com | Ukrainians Are Having a Delightful Day at the Abandoned Presidential Palace - The Wire [ http://ur1.ca/goi9g ] | Feb 23 01:15 | |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Feb 23 01:15 |
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| MinceR | http://www.pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/672955-1.jpg | Feb 23 01:40 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Advocacy - My Take http://t.co/PcwXNEuvfl | Feb 23 01:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goiev | Feb 23 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Advocacy - My Take | Tux Machines | Feb 23 01:56 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Feb 23 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | St. Leigh of the Captchas says: | Feb 23 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | I like the parliamentary system. My favorite to watch is Taiwan's. They throw chairs at each other! Between fistfights! | Feb 23 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | They settle down and vote, though, and they seem reasonably well governed. | Feb 23 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 05:11 |
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| DaemonFC | Hmmm..... Steve Ballmer was elected to the Parliament of Taiwan? | Feb 23 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | I thought that "****ing kill Google" was pretty ambitious. He left his job as CEO with only a few percent of the search and smartphone market, both operating at a loss. | Feb 23 05:12 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 23 10:12 |
| Sosumi | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhGqKgZCEAAcFie.jpg:large | Feb 23 10:16 |
| Sosumi | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2014/022014-microsoft-lync-nsa-278925.html?hpg1=bn | Feb 23 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program - Network World [ http://ur1.ca/gokj0 ] | Feb 23 10:17 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program - Network World [ http://ur1.ca/gokj0 ] | Feb 23 10:17 | |
| Sosumi | is it just Lync? or all the outbound and inbound traffic is logged | Feb 23 10:18 |
| Sosumi | so if you were watching facebook at your workplace | Feb 23 10:19 |
| Sosumi | don't | Feb 23 10:19 |
| Sosumi | and Yanukovych just got sacked | Feb 23 10:21 |
| Sosumi | Tymoshenko, the EU lapdog, has been freed and a while a go was incentivating further protests | Feb 23 10:22 |
| Sosumi | right wing extremists were securing the parliament | Feb 23 10:22 |
| Sosumi | will they also set fire to it? | Feb 23 10:23 |
| schestowitz | ah | Feb 23 10:31 |
| schestowitz | ah, I think you forget the story of Germany | Feb 23 10:32 |
| schestowitz | not many analogies here | Feb 23 10:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: first issue of LInux Voice ready for download, but my name won't be in it | Feb 23 10:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: since didn't get sent off in time | Feb 23 10:32 |
| schestowitz | can do next time | Feb 23 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: they wil put something in the second issue it seems though | Feb 23 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: apparnatly it's got some good Mageia 4 reiew to, but I haen't looked yet | Feb 23 10:33 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3678306 | Feb 23 10:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "Valve's digital ... | Feb 23 10:33 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "Valve's digital ... | Feb 23 10:33 | |
| schestowitz | "Just like old Shareware/Freeware days, anybody remember Kroz, Commander Keen, independent publishers and developers rule" | Feb 23 10:34 |
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| sebsebseb | hi neildarlow | Feb 23 10:42 |
| neildarlow | sebsebseb: Hi there! | Feb 23 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Reason Some Games Are Delayed For Linux In | Feb 23 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Humble Indie Bundles http://t.co/sUYiFAjDFD | Feb 23 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gokwr | Feb 23 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.13.4 Brings ARM64 (AArch64) | Feb 23 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements http://t.co/V1Aysyl4Ow | Feb 23 10:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gokws | Feb 23 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Reason Some Games Are Delayed For Linux In Humble Indie Bundles | Tux Machines | Feb 23 10:44 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Reason Some Games Are Delayed For Linux In Humble Indie Bundles | Tux Machines | Feb 23 10:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13.4 Brings ARM64 (AArch64) Improvements | Tux Machines | Feb 23 10:44 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13.4 Brings ARM64 (AArch64) Improvements | Tux Machines | Feb 23 10:44 | |
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| msb__ | I remember the Apogee game Commander Keen and more advanced ones. Two-dimensional and ran well under PC-DOS on a '386 and lower. I have software that runs them under Linux. I love those games! | Feb 23 11:37 |
| msb__ | They were usually in 3 episodes, the first free, and #2 and 3 you paid for. | Feb 23 11:38 |
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| amarsh04 | I played commander keen on a 286 machine running ms-dos | Feb 23 11:42 |
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| msb__ | Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure, Crystal Caves, Secret Agent, Bio Menace. The good ones had small enough characters and a big enough scene that you could see what enemies were coming, rather than just get surprised by it and have to shoot fast. But you have to use some reasoning and skill to overcome the enemies. | Feb 23 11:50 |
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| msb__ | They were quite intelligently designed. | Feb 23 11:51 |
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| msb__ | They're all listed here: http://www.g4tv.com/games/publishers/apogee/456/ | Feb 23 11:55 |
| msb__ | Yo, bot! | Feb 23 11:55 |
| msb__ | !bot | Feb 23 11:55 |
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| schestowitz__ | bad month for freenode | Feb 23 11:59 |
| schestowitz__ | never been this unreliable | Feb 23 11:59 |
| schestowitz__ | Has that disgusting agent gone away yet? | Feb 23 11:59 |
| schestowitz__ | http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5 | Feb 23 11:59 |
| schestowitz__ | (The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)) | Feb 23 11:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/GreenGeekOrg/status/437556941725118464 | Feb 23 12:00 |
| schestowitz__ | "@schestowitz great! we've worked converting some small businesses. 100+ is a good number. We'd default to MINT or Xubuntu LTS. 14.04?" | Feb 23 12:00 |
| schestowitz__ | Whatever suits existing hardware | Feb 23 12:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Mozilla Developers Will Unveil Some Firefox | Feb 23 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS Based Devices At MWC 2014 | Feb 23 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SiK2NmiYHr | Feb 23 12:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/golok | Feb 23 12:09 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.74 | Feb 23 12:10 |
| Sosumi | I also remember a lot of stuff | Feb 23 13:41 |
| Sosumi | but never stupider times like these | Feb 23 13:41 |
| Sosumi | back in 2004, when I actually got the computer bug | Feb 23 13:42 |
| Sosumi | things were a lot calmer | Feb 23 13:42 |
| Sosumi | and I mean it in a general perspective | Feb 23 13:42 |
| Sosumi | not just constant attempts on free software | Feb 23 13:43 |
| Sosumi | *the | Feb 23 13:43 |
| Sosumi | and we were still 4 years away from the late 2008 depression | Feb 23 13:43 |
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| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/VANDR14/status/437496427627819008/photo/1 | Feb 23 14:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@VANDR14: Вот например, сносят памятник ВОВ во Львове. http://t.co/TlLXc7vsjR | Feb 23 14:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@VANDR14: Вот например, сносят памятник ВОВ во Львове. http://t.co/TlLXc7vsjR | Feb 23 14:51 | |
| Sosumi | after toppling Lenin's monument | Feb 23 14:52 |
| Sosumi | now monuments to red army heroes that died fighting nazi germany also being toppled | Feb 23 14:53 |
| Sosumi | also, Timoshenko to meet with Merkel soon | Feb 23 14:54 |
| Sosumi | Merkel = the cadaverous golem of europe | Feb 23 14:55 |
| Sosumi | also, Camoron, "it is not russia's duty to militarily intervene in ukraine" | Feb 23 14:57 |
| Sosumi | so polish intervention under covert nato guise? | Feb 23 14:57 |
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| MinceR | i'm all for toppling commie monuments | Feb 23 15:37 |
| MinceR | but of course they're too communazi to do that in hungaristan | Feb 23 15:37 |
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| Sosumi | I remember Sarkozi in france | Feb 23 17:02 |
| Sosumi | trying to erase from history books everything related to the napolionic incursions | Feb 23 17:02 |
| Sosumi | all in order to try to bury some shady european history | Feb 23 17:04 |
| Sosumi | in order to promote further european integration | Feb 23 17:04 |
| Sosumi | and we all know | Feb 23 17:04 |
| Sosumi | those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat the same mistakes | Feb 23 17:05 |
| Sosumi | and the same can be said about any kind of monuments | Feb 23 17:05 |
| Sosumi | let them stay there as marker of a long past time that should never be forgotten | Feb 23 17:05 |
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| MinceR | the reminders are not so good if they proclaim that occupants were "liberators" | Feb 23 17:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung's Tizen on Gear plan makes sense | Feb 23 17:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/T7pyLPwlcm | Feb 23 17:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Web Usage Almost Doubled, Now At ~2%? | Feb 23 17:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kFX5XC0W1c | Feb 23 17:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google's Tim Bray steps down in the name of | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | working remotely http://t.co/eBCW04wptt | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfo | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti Maxwell Continues Running | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Great On Linux http://t.co/lN3vvjVOMc | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfp | Feb 23 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung's Tizen on Gear plan makes sense | Tux Machines | Feb 23 17:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Amazon's Android set-top box reportedly set for | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | March release http://t.co/m2HqexwjYo | Feb 23 17:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfq | Feb 23 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Web Usage Almost Doubled, Now At ~2%? | Tux Machines | Feb 23 17:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's Tim Bray steps down in the name of working remotely | Tux Machines | Feb 23 17:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti Maxwell Continues Running Great On Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 23 17:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Amazon's Android set-top box reportedly set for March release | Tux Machines | Feb 23 17:53 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Feb 23 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | Geekings | Feb 23 19:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Is freenode finally stable again? | Feb 23 19:01 |
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| DaemonFC | I posted a rant about Apple devices. | Feb 23 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | I thought Microsoft Windows was bad until I saw ports of Apple software running on it. Where to begin? | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | It's fat, it's slow, it's full of bugs. It installs system level services and unrelated software that the user did not request. Just having it installed has broken Windows and left it unable to boot on several occasions.... | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | You're making a really big goddamned mistake if you buy an iPod or an iPhone and use Windows or GNU/Linux. Using it on Windows is a real pain because you need Apple's gargantuan buggy pile of ****ware. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | On GNU/Linux, it's not *as* bad. We have a thin library that has a reverse engineered implementation of Apple's file transport protocol. It doesn't require any particular software. Amarok, Rhythmbox, and Banshee are all known to work well with libimobiledevice. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | The problem is that every time we RE Apple's transport protocol, Apple changes it and we have to do it all over again, so you really have to check the libimobiledevice list of supported devices. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Even if it *does* work, you're still using an expensive iThing that does not work as well as competing products. I was astounded that anyone would pay $300 for an MP3 player. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Apple's MP3 players were not the first. And they weren't even the best when they hit the market. They just cost more than everyone else's. That's a theme with Apple devices. They're a status symbol. They occasionally make something for their poorer cultists, like the Mac Mini or the iPod Shuffle. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I looked and saw that their latest Mac Mini does not support DVI, so I'd have to buy a DVI to HDMI cable to continue using my monitor with it. And then, it does not support "High Definition Content Protection" digital handcuffs, so Mac OS would refuse to play Blu Rays at 1920 x 1080, like I can do over DVI-D with GNU/Linux because I worked around that problem. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | There's a simple two step process for using the LG G2 or Google Nexus 5 with Windows or GNU/Linux. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Plug it into the USB port and open your file manager or media player. | Feb 23 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Oh my god! It's like it's from the ****ing future! Shut up and take my money! | Feb 23 19:20 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | I posted the following comment on Mike Pence's Facebook wall, in response to a comment in favor of marijuana legalization. | Feb 23 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | "Colorado says that their tax receipts for recreational marijuana were expected to be $93 million a year, and they're on track to exceed that by a significant margin. If Governor Pence and the General Assembly used Colarado law as a model, then between 2014-2020, $700 million+ (or 25%) of the I-69 expansion would be paid for and then the state could use the tax receipts to cover its 10% share of the Medicaid expansion after 2020 with money left | Feb 23 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | over for other priorities, perhaps including an income tax reduction. It's stupid that cancer sticks and alcohol are legal and have never done a positive thing for anyone, yet nobody is seriously arguing for us to ban adults from choosing to use them, yet Indiana Republicans including Pence have made it possible to get a longer prison sentence for having one ounce of pot than for ****ing murdering someone. Replace Governor and strike any key!" | Feb 23 19:46 |
| msb__ | Cannabis can wake people up so they no longer believe and aren't controlled by the lies from the government and corporate media. That's why there were so many protests that they forced the Vietnam War to end. This was well-known at the time, published in the "underground newspapers" -- Berkeley Barb, etc. I was alive and active at that time. The government and corporate fascist thugs were shocked that the people forced one of their | Feb 23 19:59 |
| msb__ | wars to end. That's why they made the punishments for cannabis greater than for murder. | Feb 23 19:59 |
| msb__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4pBysFk84 | Feb 23 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Jefferson Airplane - Mexico - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/goo7n ] | Feb 23 20:05 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06XTYfChShM | Feb 23 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Rochard - automatische kaput - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/goo7x ] | Feb 23 20:07 | |
| DaemonFC | The computer was from Apple. ;) | Feb 23 20:07 |
| msb__ | That entire song -- Mexico -- is about cannabis. "There were a half a million people on the lawn, and we song to their faces in the dawn." -- Woodstock | Feb 23 20:10 |
| msb__ | song --> sang | Feb 23 20:10 |
| msb__ | That entire song -- Mexico -- is about cannabis. "There were a half a million people on the lawn, and we sang to their faces in the dawn." -- Woodstock | Feb 23 20:16 |
| msb__ | It was a revolution, a Renaissance. Jefferson Airplane were among the main leaders of it. We need that same spirit today! | Feb 23 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, it looks like they removed all download links and most references to any version of Safari for Windows. | Feb 23 20:20 |
| msb__ | Bush and Obama are today's Nixons. The War of Terror -- the US invading and murdering millions of people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria -- is today's Vietnam War. | Feb 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Laz says: | Feb 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | Apple.com. I'm looking at it right now, in the support area, but never mind, you'll have to set up an account to access the support area. With all you paranoia, something you'll never do, and can't do from any Linux install. You need the account to set up Quicktime and the auto-updates, Safari won't work without it. No Quicktime for Linux. | Feb 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'll send you $20 over Paypal if you can prove to me that there is a Safari 7.1 for Windows and give me a link to the executable. | Feb 23 20:20 |
| msb__ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mplayer#Media_formats Mplayer, which runs on all three platforms, plays MOV (QuickTime) format. | Feb 23 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MPlayer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gooc9 ] | Feb 23 20:26 | |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: Is there anything we need Safari for? | Feb 23 20:30 |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: Is there anything we need Quicktime for? | Feb 23 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines When it comes to cloud and scale out, Ubuntu | Feb 23 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | has the winning model http://t.co/AbbUlvS42W | Feb 23 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goodc | Feb 23 20:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FLOSS Office Suites http://t.co/c0TX03Cmls | Feb 23 20:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung drops Android for Tizen in new Gear 2 | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartwatches http://t.co/M125AB8NMX | Feb 23 20:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 4.5 to arrive on Nexus 8 in July | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/T2RKEtj3La | Feb 23 20:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ars walkthrough: Using the ZFS next-gen | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | filesystem on Linux http://t.co/mRG1Qz1ra7 | Feb 23 20:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goodh | Feb 23 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | When it comes to cloud and scale out, Ubuntu has the winning model | Tux Machines | Feb 23 20:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FLOSS Office Suites | Tux Machines | Feb 23 20:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung drops Android for Tizen in new Gear 2 smartwatches | Tux Machines | Feb 23 20:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android 4.5 to arrive on Nexus 8 in July | Tux Machines | Feb 23 20:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ars walkthrough: Using the ZFS next-gen filesystem on Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 23 20:36 | |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: I just played three .mov videos with mplayer -- picture and sound fine. | Feb 23 20:39 |
| Sosumi | MD Players sound quality > all | Feb 23 21:02 |
| Sosumi | at the time | Feb 23 21:02 |
| Sosumi | but comparing the ipods with the creative jukeboxes and so on | Feb 23 21:03 |
| Sosumi | the ipods were better | Feb 23 21:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/CM6G1ge85A | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goojz | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/wvuu8rMilc | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook0 | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Several Great Linux Terminal Games | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/dt1953LTUK | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook1 | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines QBEH-1: The Atlas Cube Atmospheric First Person | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Puzzle Game Releasing In April For Linux | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ju8SxnaADH | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook3 | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.13 Finally Arrives on Arch | Feb 23 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 23 21:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux, with a Warning http://t.co/oF4I6I4bo0 | Feb 23 21:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook4 | Feb 23 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Feb 23 21:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Several Great Linux Terminal Games | Tux Machines | Feb 23 21:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QBEH-1: The Atlas Cube Atmospheric First Person Puzzle Game Releasing In April For Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 23 21:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13 Finally Arrives on Arch Linux, with a Warning | Tux Machines | Feb 23 21:15 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, the county was hurting for money so bad that they canceled their agreement to subsidize Walmart, and started sending Walmart a tax bill. They taxed Walmart for $460,000 last year. I got a kick out of that. | Feb 23 21:23 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart went from paying nothing to being the top taxpayer in the county within one year. | Feb 23 21:23 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3678683 | Feb 23 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | When writers reli... | Feb 23 21:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | "|Big publishers entered the memory hole era a decade ago. This is why it is important to be able to share. We won't have libraries with the evil copyright laws publishers force on us. US News now has all the validity and weight of toilet paper.| | Feb 23 21:39 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3679189 | Feb 23 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Google used to re... | Feb 23 21:40 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | I think the deal was that you were supposed to spend 20% of your time on some personal project. An inexpensive book scanner, I think, is an example of such a project. | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Scroogle is scaring people away but I don't know if there has been any real internal cultural change. Certainly, they have sucked in a lot of people and there are infiltrators. That they can tolerate Microsoft people in management is a bad sign. | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | If any company could pull off a remote campus, it should be Google. There is something special about a university type setting where people bump into each other and are constantly challenged and exposed to new ideas. Perhaps they should have offered Bray a sabbatical instead of an ultimatum. | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe he can join a company like Jolla now | Feb 23 21:40 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3679110 | Feb 23 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | The worst thing o... | Feb 23 21:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Now an official part of the effort to restore trust in the usual bad actors?" | Feb 23 21:41 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3679141 | Feb 23 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Linux Web Usage A... | Feb 23 21:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | "The eternal 2% lie wont' go away till Microsoft is dead." | Feb 23 21:41 |
| schestowitz__ | a quarter of computers sold with a form of Linux, so their stats (US only) lack integrity | Feb 23 21:41 |
| schestowitz__ | > == | Feb 23 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 23 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > "Netflix Agrees to Pay Comcast to End Traffic Jam" | Feb 23 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304834704579401071892041790 | Feb 23 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-online.wsj.com | Netflix Agrees to Pay Comcast to End Web Traffic Jam - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gooti ] | Feb 23 21:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 23 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > So it escalates. Net Neutrality not even mentioned in the article. | Feb 23 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | WSJ hates Net Neutrality. Murdoch would benefit from slowing down competition. | Feb 23 21:52 |
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| DaemonFC | Menards has Shell 5w30 on sale for $1.99 a quart. | Feb 23 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | I might go stock up... | Feb 23 23:43 |
| MinceR | gn | Feb 24 00:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PC-BSD 10.0 vs. PC-BSD 9.2 vs. Ubuntu 13.10 | Feb 24 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Benchmarks http://t.co/5Oyz5l9K4g | Feb 24 01:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gopy6 | Feb 24 01:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PC-BSD 10.0 vs. PC-BSD 9.2 vs. Ubuntu 13.10 Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Feb 24 01:54 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxM00TCYYML18V | Feb 24 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Netflix has agreed to pay Comcast to stop throttling their traffic. [ http://ur1.ca/goq23 ] | Feb 24 02:24 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/business/media/comcast-and-netflix-reach-a-streaming-agreement.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0 | Feb 24 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix has paid Comcast to quit bullying them. | Feb 24 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/goq24 ] | Feb 24 02:24 | |
| DaemonFC | One wonders who Comcast will bully next. Now that they know it works and that they can get away with extortion. | Feb 24 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast subscribers, who pay $70-80 a month should not get degraded service and bandwidth caps. | Feb 24 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | "a person close to the companies said it involved annual payments of several million dollars" | Feb 24 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | The extortion might get bigger when the deal expires. | Feb 24 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix will not absorb this. They will raise their service prices by several dollars per subscriber, and make their subscribers pay it. | Feb 24 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint plans to roll out the Android 4.4 update soon. | Feb 24 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | to the LG G2... | Feb 24 03:14 |
| DaemonFC | They're going to roll out the 4.4.2 release | Feb 24 03:15 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/news/local/Suspect-Leads-Police-On-Pursuit-Before-Capture-246791541.html | Feb 24 06:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indianasnewscenter.com | Suspect Leads Police On Pursuit Before Capture (VIDEO) | Indiana's NewsCenter: News, Sports, Weather, Fort Wayne WPTA-TV, WISE-TV, and CW | Local [ http://ur1.ca/gorcb ] | Feb 24 06:49 | |
| DaemonFC | "Fort Wayne police identified the suspect as Henry Purifoy III, 23, of Fort Wayne." | Feb 24 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | Whenever someone's name ends with "III", you know they're a trailer park meth head. | Feb 24 06:50 |
| MinceR | like bill gates? :> | Feb 24 06:53 |
| DaemonFC | well... | Feb 24 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | In Indiana, at least. | Feb 24 06:55 |
| DaemonFC | The most Republican part of the state is Wakarusa. | Feb 24 06:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3678229 | Feb 24 06:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Google Search is ... | Feb 24 06:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | "If it's the same with a different ISP, I suppose that it's Google. Is anyone else reporting this yet?" | Feb 24 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | In the Potawatomi language, it means "knee deep in mud". | Feb 24 06:56 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, anyone that lives in Indiana right now is neck deep in shit, and I don't know the Potawatomi word for that. | Feb 24 06:57 |
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| MinceR | :> | Feb 24 07:00 |
| DaemonFC | I'm reading another story about the diseased animal parts that are unfit for human consumption in Hot Pockets while eating Hot Pockets. | Feb 24 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's OK because they're not the philly cheese steak ones that are made with ground internal organs. | Feb 24 07:01 |
| DaemonFC | These claim they are a "cuban sandwich" with ham, swiss cheese, pickles, and mustard. | Feb 24 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, who knows what it really is? | Feb 24 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | Probably ground internal organs from diseased animals with a bunch of chemicals. | Feb 24 07:02 |
| DaemonFC | But it was only $1.49, so I can die with a little bit of money. | Feb 24 07:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://thinkprogress.org/home/2014/02/23/3321131/iphone-security-flaw/ | Feb 24 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | Latest iPhone Update Fixes Major Security Flaw That Apple Kept Quiet | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/gori6 ] | Feb 24 07:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 3.14-rc4 http://t.co/dqP5zxsQAC | Feb 24 07:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gormg | Feb 24 07:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 3.14-rc4 | Tux Machines | Feb 24 07:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu’s Booth at MWC 2014 Looks Spectacular | Feb 24 08:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/BEJeJCtbdo | Feb 24 08:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gorrz | Feb 24 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu’s Booth at MWC 2014 Looks Spectacular | Tux Machines | Feb 24 08:20 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/22/bill-maher-overcoming-masturbation_n_4838140.html | Feb 24 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | Bill Maher Reads The Most Ineffective Anti-Masturbation Pamphlet Ever [ http://ur1.ca/gos7y ] | Feb 24 09:23 | |
| DaemonFC | The Microsoft Media shells out big bucks slandering Android by claiming it is unforkable, then Microsoft collaborator Nokia forks Android to serve Microsoft. | Feb 24 09:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://gizmodo.com/nokia-x-the-first-nokia-android-1529525060 | Feb 24 09:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Nokia X: The First Nokia Androids [ http://ur1.ca/gosah ] | Feb 24 09:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meld 3.11.0 Has Been Ported to GTK+ 3 | Feb 24 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/vVsXNX0tJW | Feb 24 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gosb0 | Feb 24 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Opening Up Communications | Feb 24 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/g0d18eyUbG | Feb 24 09:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gosb1 | Feb 24 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meld 3.11.0 Has Been Ported to GTK+ 3 | Tux Machines | Feb 24 09:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Opening Up Communications | Tux Machines | Feb 24 09:43 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 24 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/02/06 | Feb 24 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | As TPP Opposition Soars, Corporate Media Blackout Deafening | Common Dreams [ http://ur1.ca/gosc7 ] | Feb 24 09:49 | |
| DaemonFC | There's a blackout on the Trans Pacific Partnership. Fox News and CNN mentioned it ZERO times. MSNBC mentioned it the Ed Show several times, but even he really softballed it. | Feb 24 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | You'd expect more news coverage of a treaty between countries that control more than 40% of the Gross World Product. | Feb 24 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's shameful that we have to go to the internet to read reports about the leaked draft, and how it will murder people with drug patents and kill the software freedom movement. | Feb 24 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | Even Congress is having a hard time reviewing the drafts. It's easier for them to read the internet leaks than to get Obama's US Trade Representative to cooperate. | Feb 24 09:49 |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: How will the TPP kill the software freedom movement? Not saying it won't, I'm just ignorant on it. | Feb 24 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | The enforcement of the 300 GB cap has been "temporarily suspended" for over two years now. | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | Download away! | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, I have heard of them "contacting" people about "excessive" usage if they go past 700 GB. | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | One dude got a phone call from Comcast because they thought his computer might be a spam-spewing Windows zombie. | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | People who use Windows and don't make sure it is free of spam-spewing malware deserve to open up a $500 cable bill. ****ers. | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | That'll teach 'em. | Feb 24 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | It will require every member state, including the US, to make patent violations a criminal offense. | Feb 24 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | Including software patents. | Feb 24 10:59 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.macrumors.com/2014/02/23/apple-fixing-ssl-bug-other-apps-affected/ | Feb 24 11:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Apple Planning Fix for OS X SSL Bug as New Research Reveals iMessage, Other Apps Affected - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gosyh ] | Feb 24 11:46 | |
| Sosumi | "planning" | Feb 24 11:46 |
| Sosumi | just like they planned to fix that other itunes bug | Feb 24 11:46 |
| Sosumi | it took them what? 2 years and a half | Feb 24 11:47 |
| Sosumi | how long did it that them to fix the turbo issue with itunes back in 2009? | Feb 24 11:47 |
| Sosumi | after they acknowledged the problem (which at first they didn't) | Feb 24 11:48 |
| Sosumi | 6 months | Feb 24 11:48 |
| Sosumi | crapple, lol | Feb 24 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Shell 3.10.4 Brings Support for | Feb 24 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | High-Resolution Displays http://t.co/FEddNArAJB | Feb 24 12:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/got75 | Feb 24 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Shell 3.10.4 Brings Support for High-Resolution Displays | Tux Machines | Feb 24 12:32 | |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/petrillic/status/437942007978541058 | Feb 24 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrillic: @schestowitz @glynmoody my understanding is they're paying to host their servers closer. This has nothing to do with NN. Akamai does it. | Feb 24 13:52 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/437943046156476417 | Feb 24 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @petrillic @schestowitz I've not seen it explained thus; details matter here... | Feb 24 13:53 | |
| DaemonFC | http://androidandme.com/2014/02/news/nokia-x-family-introduced-as-trio-of-android-based-smartphones/ | Feb 24 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-androidandme.com | Nokia X family introduced as trio of Android-based smartphones | Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/goto4 ] | Feb 24 13:53 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/23/comcasts-deal-with-netflix-makes-network-neutrality-obsolete/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/23/comcasts-deal-with-netflix-makes-network-neutrality-obsolete/ | Feb 24 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Comcast’s deal with Netflix makes network neutrality obsolete [ http://ur1.ca/goto6 ] | Feb 24 13:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft Android | Feb 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | meh | Feb 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I quoted you today | Feb 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | See my post about it this morning | Feb 24 13:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://news.techeye.net/business/netflix-caves-into-comcast-on-throttling | Feb 24 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.techeye.net | Netflix caves into Comcast on throttling - End of US net-neutrality | TechEye [ http://ur1.ca/gotod ] | Feb 24 13:55 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/conversations?conversation_id=43229 | Feb 24 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Diaspora* / Sign in [ http://ur1.ca/4c80w ] | Feb 24 13:55 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "oh - sorry I thought you speak german - - anyway nice posts - I try to read all ---- hahaha ---- thank you for being part of this dispora :-)" | Feb 24 13:55 |
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| msb__ | DaemonFC: How will the TPP kill the software freedom movement? Not saying it won't, I'm just ignorant on it. | Feb 24 14:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/fRyMLoJFQA | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwk | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google may cancel Chromebook subsidies, say | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Taiwan makers http://t.co/8QVucp9GaT | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwm | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wow! Tux Machines IS BAACCCKKKK! | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FeZuo6GFi8 | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwo | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ford to ditch Microsoft for BlackBerry in cars | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | say insiders http://t.co/P6fBhS65uH | Feb 24 14:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwp | Feb 24 14:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 24 14:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google may cancel Chromebook subsidies, say Taiwan makers | Tux Machines | Feb 24 14:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wow! Tux Machines IS BAACCCKKKK! | Tux Machines | Feb 24 14:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ford to ditch Microsoft for BlackBerry in cars say insiders | Tux Machines | Feb 24 14:39 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/keonne/status/437582439607586816 | Feb 24 14:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@keonne: @schestowitz @candtalan Sweet. I just got myself an MSI GS70 wiped off windows 8 and loaded her up with @archlinux - couldn't be happier | Feb 24 14:52 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/gh_geek/status/437961187360530432 | Feb 24 14:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gh_geek: It only lived in the mind of @selop RT @schestowitz: "Windows Phone is dead" http://t.co/N0WmM7cuWJ | Feb 24 14:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> communities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: What Does It Mean that Nokia Launches 3 Smartphones on Android, Now? It means desperation and that Windows Phone is dead | Feb 24 14:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $629 Blackphone aims to hide you from the NSA | Feb 24 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3ChScj6zpu | Feb 24 15:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gou70 | Feb 24 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $629 Blackphone aims to hide you from the NSA | Tux Machines | Feb 24 15:19 | |
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| abeNd-org | http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/24/5442596/ceo-of-verizon-says-he-expects-netflix-will-sign-deal-to-pay-them-as | Feb 24 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Verizon CEO says he expects Netflix will sign deal to pay them as well | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/govq2 ] | Feb 24 18:38 | |
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| Sosumi | Italian has another appointed prime minister | Feb 24 18:44 |
| Sosumi | *italy | Feb 24 18:44 |
| Sosumi | who promises immediate radical change | Feb 24 18:45 |
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| abeNd-org | how many mistresses? | Feb 24 18:45 |
| Sosumi | isn't there a saying who says that the more things change, the more they stay the same? | Feb 24 18:46 |
| Sosumi | probably one for each day of the week? | Feb 24 18:47 |
| Sosumi | but from as far as I know | Feb 24 18:47 |
| Sosumi | only Berlusconi could pull that | Feb 24 18:47 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 24 18:49 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Feb 24 18:50 |
| abeNd-org | ive given up on any politician ever actually doing anything good for the people they represent | Feb 24 18:50 |
| abeNd-org | the only thing they ever really represent is their own pocketbook | Feb 24 18:51 |
| gde33 | abeNd-org: oh but it isn't so complex, if you can just get the people represented to want something | Feb 24 18:51 |
| Sosumi | but they actually do good for the ppl they represent | Feb 24 18:51 |
| Sosumi | aka their campaign backers | Feb 24 18:51 |
| abeNd-org | sure, the special interests, check writers, etc | Feb 24 18:51 |
| Sosumi | yep | Feb 24 18:52 |
| gde33 | The grand nagus and other ferrengi | Feb 24 18:52 |
| abeNd-org | i think to clean this world up & set it straight, it would actually require one heck of an evil person willing to carry out some nasty stuff | Feb 24 18:52 |
| abeNd-org | someone willing to instantly flip the switch on criminals to erase them, & willing to enforce other laws without backing down | Feb 24 18:53 |
| abeNd-org | someone who doesnt care about political correctness | Feb 24 18:53 |
| abeNd-org | & who doesnt get assassinated :P | Feb 24 18:54 |
| gde33 | then the government funded mercinary armies will come and end everything | Feb 24 18:55 |
| abeNd-org | no need for an army in such a utopia | Feb 24 18:55 |
| gde33 | I know, it is all highly theoretical at that point | Feb 24 18:56 |
| abeNd-org | those left have no need/want/desire/reason to commit crime | Feb 24 18:56 |
| gde33 | lol | Feb 24 18:56 |
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| gde33 | I think I have a good picture how we can at least all agree to progress. | Feb 24 19:01 |
| abeNd-org | if they were gainfully employed, why would they need to commit a crime? | Feb 24 19:01 |
| gde33 | culture | Feb 24 19:01 |
| gde33 | I | Feb 24 19:01 |
| gde33 | 'm not kidding | Feb 24 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | ok, easy, fry them instantly, no second chances | Feb 24 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | obviously that person is no good to society | Feb 24 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | they should no longer exist | Feb 24 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | done | Feb 24 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | next | Feb 24 19:02 |
| gde33 | you are wrong actually | Feb 24 19:02 |
| gde33 | they are just people, the wrong people for the job | Feb 24 19:02 |
| gde33 | to some extend it is our fault they get the job | Feb 24 19:02 |
| abeNd-org | not our fault they choose to commit a crime | Feb 24 19:03 |
| gde33 | they might be guilty as well but lets just fix our end of the mistake | Feb 24 19:03 |
| gde33 | then they become irrelevant | Feb 24 19:03 |
| abeNd-org | im not holding a gun to their head telling them to commit crimes | Feb 24 19:03 |
| abeNd-org | that is their own free will | Feb 24 19:03 |
| gde33 | no you are just putting the wrong guy on the job | Feb 24 19:04 |
| gde33 | then you blame him for being bad at it | Feb 24 19:04 |
| gde33 | you are much more powerful than you think | Feb 24 19:04 |
| abeNd-org | being good or bad at a job has nothing to do with their choice to commit a crime, be bit petty or something like rape/murder | Feb 24 19:05 |
| gde33 | but it isn't abuot them | Feb 24 19:06 |
| abeNd-org | oh thats right, bleeding heart liberal, of course no one has personal responsibility | Feb 24 19:06 |
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| gde33 | I understand you want to get away from what we have as fast as possible, shooting everyone seems a good solution for that. | Feb 24 19:06 |
| gde33 | but it is also an ugly one | Feb 24 19:06 |
| gde33 | no success is guranteed, you could be shooting people for a long time | Feb 24 19:07 |
| abeNd-org | yes, & i already denoted above about it taking one heck of a prolonged "act of evil" to clean humanity up | Feb 24 19:07 |
| gde33 | yeah | Feb 24 19:07 |
| gde33 | that was what i was refering to | Feb 24 19:07 |
| gde33 | I'm not that much in a hurry | Feb 24 19:07 |
| abeNd-org | im sure there are plenty of people who don't qualify for the wastebin of humanity | Feb 24 19:08 |
| gde33 | I think a basic income can be presented so that it makes good sense even to greedy check writers. | Feb 24 19:08 |
| gde33 | just give everyone 700 euro per month, no questions asked. | Feb 24 19:09 |
| gde33 | then decrease all wages by 700 | Feb 24 19:09 |
| abeNd-org | & instantly eliminate criminals | Feb 24 19:10 |
| gde33 | split education into modules as small as possible, give people a permanent raise for every module completed | Feb 24 19:10 |
| gde33 | elliminate crime, reduce healthcare cost etc | Feb 24 19:10 |
| gde33 | but also, cheaper workers, the option to send them home whenever you like, skilled workers sitting at home waiting for you to call for 1/3 day's work. | Feb 24 19:11 |
| gde33 | no need to organise their healthcare or their pension | Feb 24 19:11 |
| abeNd-org | but as you said, you still end up with people committing crime just to do it | Feb 24 19:11 |
| abeNd-org | those people need to be eliminated | Feb 24 19:11 |
| gde33 | crime starts small | Feb 24 19:11 |
| gde33 | we pressure people into the field by not giving them anything at all | Feb 24 19:12 |
| abeNd-org | sure, thats why it would be easy to nip it in the bud before they turn into mass murderers :P | Feb 24 19:12 |
| gde33 | no place to sleep + hunger + no money = fantastic fast learning criminal | Feb 24 19:12 |
| gde33 | learns like a ninja | Feb 24 19:12 |
| gde33 | but we create these people | Feb 24 19:13 |
| abeNd-org | yes, preventative is always better than reactive | Feb 24 19:13 |
| gde33 | it is the egotistical society that makes these people | Feb 24 19:13 |
| abeNd-org | put the infrastructure in for preventative | Feb 24 19:13 |
| gde33 | so we just need to be a bit more generous | Feb 24 19:13 |
| abeNd-org | but if they still choose to commit crimes, then well, g'bye! | Feb 24 19:13 |
| gde33 | you dont design a great society arround crime | Feb 24 19:13 |
| gde33 | crime is not the goal | Feb 24 19:13 |
| gde33 | you do have to address it but it cant be at the core of the argument | Feb 24 19:14 |
| gde33 | or the problem will only be fixed for a while | Feb 24 19:14 |
| gde33 | until the next idiot shows up | Feb 24 19:14 |
| gde33 | if everyone has a guranteed income they can get great credit | Feb 24 19:14 |
| gde33 | the money is guranteed to show up | Feb 24 19:15 |
| gde33 | the national debt is also backed by citizens | Feb 24 19:15 |
| gde33 | if the citizen is a worthless heap of sadness then you also cant borrow against him nationally | Feb 24 19:15 |
| abeNd-org | worthless heap of sadness... sounds like something off dilbert.com :) | Feb 24 19:16 |
| gde33 | I'm pretty funny but not that funny | Feb 24 19:17 |
| gde33 | abeNd-org: but does that make sense? If your system requires evil doers to function? perhaps not so awesome? lol | Feb 24 19:18 |
| gde33 | but imagine the fun if a basic income doesnt cause inflation the way everyone seems to think but actually improves the credit status of the whole country, the organisations and the people in it. | Feb 24 19:20 |
| abeNd-org | just the one in charge,a good person, who is willing to follow through with what today's society would consider bad | Feb 24 19:20 |
| gde33 | abeNd-org: I think Russell Brand figured it out, just use the media to bring the dumbest law to public attention, gather people arround it, then FORCE the politicians to debate the topic, while knowing we know that they know what 70% of the citizens think. | Feb 24 19:24 |
| gde33 | create the proverbial page, put everyone on it and then invite the politician to the discussion, after the decisions are made | Feb 24 19:25 |
| gde33 | then they can do their little show how they side with the public for being reelected | Feb 24 19:25 |
| gde33 | and if they listen properly, then we will vote for them again | Feb 24 19:25 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3683670 | Feb 24 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #linux #android f... | Feb 24 20:40 | |
| schestowitz | "The selling point being proprietary software and no physical cover for cameras? Eh..." | Feb 24 20:40 |
| gde33 | I was impressed howmany people are involved in making it all safe :D | Feb 24 20:58 |
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| XFaCE | schestowitz: haven't seen oiaohm in awhile :( | Feb 24 21:58 |
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| gde33 | this thing http://basicincome2013.eu | Feb 24 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-basicincome2013.eu | European Citizens' Initiative for an Unconditional Basic Income (UBI) | #basicincome | Feb 24 22:26 | |
| gde33 | they chose to enter the petition before gathering 1 m signatures | Feb 24 22:26 |
| gde33 | as if they didnt understand the game | Feb 24 22:27 |
| gde33 | or wanted to set it up to fail? | Feb 24 22:27 |
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| MinceR | gn | Feb 24 23:29 |
| gde33 | I think a basic income doesnt cause inflation, I think its limit is the point where some jobs wont find employees. Here it seems to provide a tool that forces unwanted jobs out of the market. | Feb 24 23:40 |
| gde33 | each citizen can get an increasing smack of cash until some jobs are not getting done | Feb 24 23:41 |
| gde33 | I imagine people will then try to do those tasks themselves | Feb 24 23:42 |
| gde33 | or increase the pay | Feb 24 23:42 |
| gde33 | I think the value of a currency depends on the ecconomic wealth of the citizens minting it? | Feb 24 23:43 |
| gde33 | can print as much money as you like without devaluing anything | Feb 24 23:44 |
| gde33 | haha! | Feb 24 23:44 |
| MinceR | and you can put them into circulation and then things will get devalued | Feb 24 23:45 |
| gde33 | I dont see why | Feb 24 23:45 |
| gde33 | the US for example already has so much debt | Feb 24 23:46 |
| gde33 | it would hardly add to that | Feb 24 23:46 |
| gde33 | you could look at the large amount of debt as a feature in that way :D | Feb 24 23:46 |
| gde33 | MinceR: things will get cheaper, wages will go down dramatically | Feb 24 23:48 |
| gde33 | minimum wage 0 USD per year | Feb 24 23:48 |
| gde33 | I think it can be done gradually, just enough to increase wages for shitty jobs | Feb 24 23:50 |
| gde33 | if you get 500 bucks just to stay alive a job that would normally pay 800 now pays 300 | Feb 24 23:50 |
| gde33 | it quickly gets dubious if you should be doing a job for 75 per week | Feb 24 23:51 |
| gde33 | a job might be fun enough to do for free, I think we have enough foss examples of that :) | Feb 24 23:53 |
| abeNd-org | yea, if i could afford to, id be probno IT support for all the libraries in my area | Feb 24 23:54 |
| gde33 | the basic income makes running a business so much more fun | Feb 24 23:55 |
| gde33 | always good new people available who work for astronomically low wages until the job is done, then they are happy to go home | Feb 24 23:55 |
| gde33 | almost surreal | Feb 24 23:55 |
| gde33 | no nonsense with pensions and healthcare, can focus entirely on doing business | Feb 24 23:56 |
| gde33 | better a nanny state than a nanny that is also your boss lol | Feb 24 23:57 |
| abeNd-org | it would be great if everyone could not worry about money & just do what they like to do for work | Feb 24 23:57 |
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| abeNd-org | but some people like killing others & would prefer to do that as opposed to anything else | Feb 24 23:58 |
| gde33 | the trick is to make it ecconomically viable | Feb 24 23:58 |
| gde33 | For the more war oriented people there is the factor of a civilian uprising. | Feb 24 23:58 |
| gde33 | this is always a risk | Feb 24 23:58 |
| gde33 | until you just provide for people, then they wont ever bother you ever again | Feb 24 23:59 |
| gde33 | it is not even expensive | Feb 24 23:59 |
| gde33 | if we are the good guys in the war then we should at least try to be the good guys? | Feb 24 23:59 |
| gde33 | fighting for some dictatorship isnt very motivating | Feb 25 00:00 |
| gde33 | us political myhology predicts the enemy will come from inside, like in Alien. | Feb 25 00:01 |
| abeNd-org | only if you deny fatties their hamburgers | Feb 25 00:14 |
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| msb | hello? | Feb 25 00:43 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | I do hope that Pence runs for president though. | Feb 25 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | 1. He'll lose. | Feb 25 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | 2. It'll shovel some **** out of the Indiana Governor's office. | Feb 25 03:53 |
| DaemonFC | Under Indiana law, he *could* run for governor and president at the same time, but he won't do it because it will make his presidential bid weaker if people see that he's not confident. | Feb 25 03:53 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I kind of wonder why, in the 21st century, I even have to dignify this crap with a response. | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | Without government welfare, the kind of people who gravitate to Fundamentalist Christianity are not smart enough or good enough to do many useful things in the modern world. They breed and they get more welfare. | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | Didn't Hannibal Lecter even say "A rational society would either kill me or find a use for me?". | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | What's their excuse? | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | The least they can do is say thank you for my money and quit oppressing me. They have a name for breeding and burning up government welfare. | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | They call it "draining the beast". | Feb 25 05:54 |
| DaemonFC | err, got the punctuation mixed up.... | Feb 25 05:55 |
| *DaemonFC edits | Feb 25 05:55 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | They're lucky that I don't tell them what I really think, because "**** you and **** your terrorist religion too." is not very polite. | Feb 25 05:56 |
| DaemonFC | Menkaure says: | Feb 25 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | Big business stepped into this one primarily for practical reasons; it's a bad law with potential for disastrous consequences. Basically, any employee could refuse service to any customer on religious grounds; creating a potential PR and customer service nightmare for national retailers located in Arizona. Imagine trying to operate a large supermarket or department store where half your employees are offending and turning away customers with a | Feb 25 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | variety of whackadoodle excuses. | Feb 25 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | Well, at first, the religious kooks will show up to support that business, at least until they run out of other people's money and have to wait until the first of the month again. | Feb 25 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link. | Feb 25 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/22/1279622/-Mormons-Declare-War-on-Masturbation?detail=facebook | Feb 25 06:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailykos.com | Mormons Declare War on Masturbation [ http://ur1.ca/gp0c7 ] | Feb 25 06:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Bill Maher already got to this. He read out of one of their old pamphlets from the 70s. | Feb 25 06:26 |
| DaemonFC | "Wear pajamas that are difficult to open." Maher: "Yes, you just go into the store... 'Excuse me? Do you have any pajamas that are difficult to open?'" | Feb 25 06:26 |
| MinceR | fundie "logic": http://i.imgur.com/fHC7JQW.jpg | Feb 25 07:13 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: My favorite is "If women carried guns, they wouldn't be raped." | Feb 25 07:23 |
| MinceR | there's slightly more truth to that one than the fetus one | Feb 25 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | If women started shooting rapists and abortion clinic hecklers, I think we'd have some new gun control laws soon. | Feb 25 07:24 |
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| MinceR | :> | Feb 25 07:24 |
| MinceR | they'd be along the lines of "no guns for women", though... | Feb 25 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 25 07:26 |
| DaemonFC | at least they couldn't say "If women had guns" anymore. | Feb 25 07:26 |
| MinceR | at the cost of egalitarianism | Feb 25 07:35 |
| msb | DaemonFC: Hello, can you see me? | Feb 25 07:42 |
| msb | freenode is very intermittent | Feb 25 07:43 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 25 07:44 |
| msb | DaemonFC: You said | Feb 25 07:53 |
| msb | DaemonFC: You said TPP would kill software freedom movement. Would you explain that please? | Feb 25 07:54 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it would deal a very serious blow to it. | Feb 25 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | Some more than others. | Feb 25 07:55 |
| msb | DaemonFC: How? | Feb 25 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of free software that clearly violates US patents. | Feb 25 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | I benefit from other countries that don't recognize our patents when I download that software in binary form from their servers. | Feb 25 07:56 |
| msb | You mean for decoding DVDs? | Feb 25 07:56 |
| MinceR | a lot more than that | Feb 25 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | And there's always the possibility that software that didn't seem to violate any patents could be found to be in violation and effectively banned. | Feb 25 07:57 |
| MinceR | patent organizations tend to allow patents for obvious things that many others have used before the patent holder | Feb 25 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | msb: Most of the stuff in RPM Fusion Free is free software that runs afoul of some US law. | Feb 25 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | mostly patent law | Feb 25 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | Nintendo has been very outspoken against emulators that pretend to be old Nintendo consoles. | Feb 25 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | They've been trying to get them declared illegal. | Feb 25 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Imagine that they got such a law or got a judge in the US to declare Nintendo emulators illegal. | Feb 25 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | But, the TPP made patent violations a potentially criminal offense. | Feb 25 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | So nobody in any country that is a member of the TPP could host a Nintendo emulator. | Feb 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's codecs for MPEG video and audio formats. | Feb 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | Certain fonts. | Feb 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | You'd be left using Fedora the way it has to ship to be compliant with US law. | Feb 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | So, there'd be some holes that you couldn't fill by grabbing someone else's RPMs. | Feb 25 08:00 |
| msb | Never heard of rpmfusion, and its website is down! But OK, it's stuff that violates goddamn swpats, font copyrights, codec stuff, etc. | Feb 25 08:02 |
| msb | So this kind of thing would have to be passed around on bittorrent! | Feb 25 08:03 |
| msb | Like movies and music! | Feb 25 08:03 |
| msb | Maybe it would be good for lots of people to be made criminals. | Feb 25 08:05 |
| msb | People would realize that corporations and corporate-controlled governments are out to exploit and control them. | Feb 25 08:05 |
| msb | Bittorrent is now the biggest type of traffic on the Net. | Feb 25 08:06 |
| MinceR | if the fascists turn the internet into a set of walled gardens, i'm not sure if it will still work | Feb 25 08:06 |
| msb | If the pipes still work, clever people may find ways through the walls. | Feb 25 08:07 |
| MinceR | if. | Feb 25 08:07 |
| msb | An alternative would be DIY-net -- wifi webs -- I forget what that's called by OLPCs can do it -- fiber strung between homes, lasers thru little telescopes, etc. | Feb 25 08:09 |
| msb | by--> but | Feb 25 08:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, mesh networking | Feb 25 08:09 |
| msb | right! | Feb 25 08:10 |
| MinceR | that's what people should build, especially in cities | Feb 25 08:10 |
| msb | To do that, and many other things, we need people to wake up. | Feb 25 08:11 |
| msb | Wake up from the programming, like we did in the 1960's revolution. | Feb 25 08:11 |
| msb | Cannabis helped a whole lot. | Feb 25 08:11 |
| msb | It also helps to get off booze, and stop drinking fluoride. | Feb 25 08:11 |
| *MinceR gets fluoride via toothpaste :> | Feb 25 08:12 | |
| msb | Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland, which if healthy produces small amounts of DMT, which makes people imaginative and hard to control. | Feb 25 08:12 |
| msb | fluoride is in toothpaste and most tapwater. | Feb 25 08:12 |
| MinceR | afaik it's not in most tap water outside the US :> | Feb 25 08:13 |
| msb | You can get a distiller for about $160, which makes distilled water for about 40 cents/gallon for the electricity. | Feb 25 08:13 |
| msb | That's good. The US is the center of world fascism. | Feb 25 08:13 |
| msb | Then I add CaCO3 and MgCO3 to the distilled water. Otherwise it slowly dissolves your teeth. | Feb 25 08:14 |
| msb | Fluoride was put in the water in nazi and stalinist prison camps in WWII to make prisoners docile. | Feb 25 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | RMS sent a reply to one of my emails. | Feb 25 08:15 |
| DaemonFC | I sent him a link to a story about Comcast making that deal with Netflix. | Feb 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix pays Comcast money to stop throttling their traffic. | Feb 25 08:16 |
| msb | Yeah, horrible. | Feb 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks. | Feb 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, Netflix is utterly horrible, and ought to be illegal | Feb 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | (since all DRM should be illegal). I agree that Comcast should not | Feb 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | be allowed to bully anyone, but we should never mention Netflix | Feb 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | without condemning it. | Feb 25 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. | Feb 25 08:16 |
| msb | The decision that non-neutrality is ok because people can always choose another isp is bullshit. | Feb 25 08:17 |
| msb | Here in SF bay area we have Comcrap and ATT and that's all. | Feb 25 08:17 |
| msb | If both start throttling or banning things they don't like, we're fucked. And this is "Silicon Valley"! | Feb 25 08:18 |
| MinceR | msb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fluoridated-water-extent-world.svg | Feb 25 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Fluoridated-water-extent-world.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gp0tn ] | Feb 25 08:18 | |
| msb | Or at least it was until most of the jobs went to India. | Feb 25 08:18 |
| msb | MinceR: Great map! Thanks! | Feb 25 08:20 |
| MinceR | np | Feb 25 08:20 |
| msb | Looks like Israel is fluoridated. The second center of world fascism. | Feb 25 08:21 |
| MinceR | also, australia, new zealand and ireland :> | Feb 25 08:21 |
| msb | and Canada | Feb 25 08:22 |
| msb | We're also getting aluminum oxide raining down from the sky from chemtrails. There's no doubt. The govt has patents to do it. | Feb 25 08:26 |
| msb | The nano-sized particles are inhaled, go to the brain, and cause Alzheimer's disease. | Feb 25 08:26 |
| msb | This has been known since the 1990s, when a bunch of kidney patients were dialized using high-aluminum tapwater, and all go t alzheimer's. | Feb 25 08:27 |
| msb | The GMO food also sterilizes test animals or gives them huge cancers in 3 generations. | Feb 25 08:28 |
| msb | The fascists/psychopaths are poisoning our air, food and water. | Feb 25 08:28 |
| msb | People have analyzed what comes down from the air. | Feb 25 08:29 |
| msb | and after major chemtrailing, rain puddles are whitish from Al2O3 | Feb 25 08:30 |
| msb | The vaccines contain mercury and aluminum. | Feb 25 08:30 |
| msb | Mercury, fluorine, and aluminum are all major neurotoxins and they are in the air, food, water, and pharmaceuticals. | Feb 25 08:32 |
| msb | Tbe fascists are doing a War Against Socialism, War Against Consciousness (anti-cannabis, etc, pro-fluoride), and War Against False-Flag Terrorism. | Feb 25 08:37 |
| msb | The Nazis that just took over Ukraine were supported by the US, including Hillary Clinton, who is a neocon. | Feb 25 08:37 |
| msb | The Al-qaeda that are actually the "Syrian dissidents" are supported and armed by the US. | Feb 25 08:38 |
| msb | Anyone listening, or are you dismissing me as a nut? | Feb 25 08:39 |
| msb | BTW, fluoride is sprayed on some fruits and vegetables to kill bugs. | Feb 25 08:43 |
| msb | fuck, I'm talking to about 2 people here, if any. I have to put all this on my website. | Feb 25 08:44 |
| msb | http://aircrap.org | Feb 25 08:48 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx1K9JEWWZ57I3N | Feb 25 10:14 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/24/1279989/-No-one-wants-to-drive-out-to-Wal-Mart-stores-anymore | Feb 25 10:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailykos.com | No one wants to drive out to Walmart stores anymore [ http://ur1.ca/gp1j3 ] | Feb 25 10:14 | |
| DaemonFC | Same store sales growth has turned negative again in the worst comp since the recession. | Feb 25 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | CNBC is now suggesting that Walmart should start closing stores in the United States, beginning with their 100 least profitable ones. | Feb 25 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | To quote the Daily Kos article: | Feb 25 10:14 |
| DaemonFC | "Walmart helped create the low-wage economy and GOP-style anti-government corporatism that is now, ironically, biting it in its ass. But there's more to the retailer's problems than austerity cuts. Fact is, its business model is increasingly an anachronism." | Feb 25 10:14 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Letter: Between #Snowden and NSA, who's the real criminal? http://t.co/1ij7O4VJYo the press which covered it up, not covered it? | Feb 25 17:05 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why #NSA Spying On The German Chancellor's Aides Matters http://t.co/Jst9L7w972 #coldwar #politics | Feb 25 17:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bustle.com | Bustle | Feb 25 17:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In the same sense/way that many bosses use browsing history as excuse for firing unwanted employees, NSA uses it to fire at unwanted people | Feb 25 17:06 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438361038531342338 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438361463758282752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438362046410014721 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438363027994574848 | Feb 25 17:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is the #CIA Better Than the Military at Drone Killings? http://t.co/zDqSjauO9n #droNSA is covertly picking "targets" | Feb 25 17:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nationaljournal.com | Is the CIA Better Than the Military at Drone Killings? - NationalJournal.com | Feb 25 17:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: U.S., Russia at Odds over Legitimacy in Ukraine http://t.co/ZLt8Kd6O5p two superpowers vying for control under misleading banners | Feb 25 17:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.democracynow.org | Headlines for February 25, 2014 | Democracy Now! | Feb 25 17:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Advocates His Death Warrant http://t.co/kk4dHcAbCb "Obama is notorious for threats to other sovereign leaders" | Feb 25 17:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> patriotpost.us | Obama Advocates His Death Warrant — The Patriot Post | Feb 25 17:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: IBM gobbles CIA-backed NoSQL database upstart #Cloudant http://t.co/lrWLuiy0cI #ibm also pursued the #cia contract #amazon got | Feb 25 17:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | IBM gobbles CIA-backed NoSQL database upstart Cloudant • The Register | Feb 25 17:33 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438363605822894080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438363796445618176 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438364124297592833 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438364788042006528 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438365140724232193 | Feb 25 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Abduction and torture by #cia in #europe now approved http://t.co/K4PvpKWH3R how low can we go on human rights? | Feb 25 17:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.reuters.com | Italian former spy chief cleared in CIA rendition case | Reuters | Feb 25 17:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The only #cia man who is in prison over #torture is the man who blew the whistle on illegal CIA torture. | Feb 25 17:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #CIA chief made secret trip to #Pakistan http://t.co/c3tKKTse7O checking the "targets" | Feb 25 17:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> tribune.com.pk | CIA chief made secret trip to Pakistan – The Express Tribune | Feb 25 17:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Letting a nation use its army to kill its own citizens rather than bombing them covertly http://t.co/x8bUODspsk | Feb 25 17:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.niticentral.com | CIA chief made clandestine visit to Pakistan | Niti Central | Feb 25 17:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 'Amazon-CIA deal “has cranked up the basis for massive abuse.”' http://t.co/ruH73sCjje #cia #amazon | Feb 25 17:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mintpressnews.com | Activists Challenge Amazon-CIA Relationship | Feb 25 17:34 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/25/world/americas/in-venezuela-middle-class-joins-protests.html?_r=0 | Feb 25 17:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gp4il ] | Feb 25 17:38 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | Help from outside? | Feb 25 17:38 |
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| schestowitz_log_ | "yours dont ask why poor people barrios and places dont are participing in supose strike againt goverment? the internal and international media LIES!!the richiest neighborhood are in strike and protesting ,they are same people who try shut off president hugo chavez by leaders like leopoldo lopez who was a mayors in baruta and capriles also mayor in chacao ,same neighborhood are protesting today ,just the richiest people are prote | Feb 25 17:38 |
| schestowitz_log_ | sting and studients of private university who get paid of U.S.A.I.D by U.S.A GOVERMENT,and others industrial owners in venezuela !! all this people is financial by united state ,the only reason they wanna PETROLEUM FREE!!!" | Feb 25 17:38 |
| schestowitz_log_ | "I think the entirety of your post lacks of actual facts and makes it totally biased. Sure the article might be one-sided but there is a reason behind it: government officials constantly avoid any kind of international public interaction with newspapers like this one, or even CNN. Having said that, I think everybody can agree that the reason that Maduro got to be a president was due the reason Chavez left him as designee. Plain a | Feb 25 17:40 |
| schestowitz_log_ | nd simple. Chavez even though wasn't the best president that pass through Venezuela, he was a leader. | Feb 25 17:40 |
| schestowitz_log_ | My point being is that you cannot say that the students are the ones that the students attacked the police. That is absolutely not true and I challenge you to prove me wrong. There are videos, photos and declarations of what is going on. It is dumb to even mention that it is because of the CIA supporting Leopoldo which has no based and simply not true. | Feb 25 17:40 |
| schestowitz_log_ | I respect people from both sides as long as their comments are not biased. The fact that your comment did not criticized the clear and evident excess of force from the national guards and the police I think makes everything you just said not valid. You are just another biased Chavez supporter who is not willing to see the entire picture. | Feb 25 17:40 |
| schestowitz_log_ | Lastly: 13 deaths and you are simply criticizing the CIA, Leopoldo and The New York Times. I think there is something wrong with this." | Feb 25 17:40 |
| schestowitz_log_ | "If the mainstream media focused the same scrutiny on our allies around the globe as it does our official enemies, people in the USA might understand what's going on in the southern cone of South America and the world. | Feb 25 17:42 |
| schestowitz_log_ | The usual pattern emerges: a govt that succeeds in improving the lot of the poor (as Venezuela has, indisputably), or even a attempts to (as Haiti tried over the last two decades - until the US helped kidnap the democratically elected leader) becomes the object of scorn. | Feb 25 17:42 |
| schestowitz_log_ | A country that overthrows a democratically elected populist (as Honduras did) becomes the recipient of increased US aid - and very little scrutiny by the media." | Feb 25 17:42 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/02/four-days-in-and-still-no-patch-for-os-x-critical-goto-fail-bug/ | Feb 25 17:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Four days in and still no patch for critical “goto fail” bug in OS X | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gp4no ] | Feb 25 17:58 | |
| Sosumi | I've always said that apple was lax with security | Feb 25 17:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3683670 | Feb 25 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #linux #android f... | Feb 25 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | "How Android can protect your privacy ? seriously ? Android is Google ... And Google is one of Big Bros.... And Android has backdoors." | Feb 25 18:09 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: if you have nothing below the belt, then you have nothing to hide | Feb 25 18:09 |
| schestowitz | "^ This is precisely why I don't use stock ROMs in any of my devices. As the saying goes, "better the devil you know"." | Feb 25 18:10 |
| schestowitz | "I have a Nokia N900 with Maemo (Debian Based) managed by the community. apparently no backdoors" | Feb 25 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688095 | Feb 25 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Response to ODF a... | Feb 25 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Are there any tools that read - write the full OOXML standard?" | Feb 25 18:10 |
| schestowitz | ECMA OOXML? Not even MS Office (no version). | Feb 25 18:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3687467 | Feb 25 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Tuxmachines is ba... | Feb 25 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | "Tuxmachines is back http://mrpogson.com/2014/02/24/wow-tux-machines-is-baaccckkkk/ thanks to <a data-hovercard='/people/da68a1f811b0f71e' href="/u/schestowitz" class='mention hovercardable' >Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)</a> :) #linux #opensource" | Feb 25 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Wow! Tux Machines IS BAACCCKKKK! | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gotwg ] | Feb 25 18:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3685447 | Feb 25 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | How #Mozilla Thin... | Feb 25 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | "samsung is backing tizen and Bq is backing ubuntu - fyi. but is it not true that chrome is belting firefox in the browser war? shoudn't be surprised if google did walk away from mozilla." | Feb 25 18:12 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Google is willing to pay only less | Feb 25 18:12 |
| schestowitz | "Last I heard, Firefox was beating out Chrome in the numbers. Not by a lot, but still ahead. There was a period where Chrome was growing much faster, and then they just edged out Firefox, but then they dropped and Firefox took a small lead and it's been that way ever since, iirc." | Feb 25 18:13 |
| Sosumi | I have something better than that | Feb 25 18:13 |
| Sosumi | pigeon post | Feb 25 18:14 |
| Sosumi | guaranteed of no backdoors | Feb 25 18:14 |
| Sosumi | literally | Feb 25 18:15 |
| Sosumi | unless someone shoots down the bird | Feb 25 18:15 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 25 18:15 |
| Sosumi | but the issue is with OSX | Feb 25 18:15 |
| Sosumi | while maemo might have been okish | Feb 25 18:17 |
| Sosumi | it doesn't beat a nice laptop with a 3g modem | Feb 25 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jumpwah/status/438347111889768448 | Feb 25 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jumpwah: @schestowitz "long term preservation of their data", imo is essential. There is simply no argument for OOXML. | Feb 25 18:23 | |
| schestowitz | @jumpwah unless you work for Microsoft and have a mortgage to pay | Feb 25 18:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Nyssen11/status/438321852830973952 | Feb 25 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nyssen11: @schestowitz Tizen is a Linux Foundation OS :) | Feb 25 18:23 | |
| schestowitz | Managed by Samsung now | Feb 25 18:24 |
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| MinceR | better than nokia or intel | Feb 25 18:52 |
| MinceR | nokia is a m$ puppet and intel never cared | Feb 25 18:52 |
| Sosumi | fix is out on a service pack just released | Feb 25 19:06 |
| Sosumi | nokia is a MS puppet now | Feb 25 19:06 |
| Sosumi | back then they used to have some of the best phones | Feb 25 19:06 |
| gde33 | that is how the tech era ends | Feb 25 19:07 |
| Sosumi | and with intel there's no alternative to them now on the desktop front | Feb 25 19:08 |
| gde33 | big names buy everything and stomp it until no one wants it anymore while there isn't any alternative | Feb 25 19:08 |
| Sosumi | sparc? power? amd (lol) | Feb 25 19:08 |
| Sosumi | no | Feb 25 19:08 |
| gde33 | it is like the biblical stories about all the knowledge being preserved by 4 guys who died that day lol | Feb 25 19:09 |
| Sosumi | that is called anti-competition | Feb 25 19:09 |
| Sosumi | couple with monopolization | Feb 25 19:09 |
| Sosumi | *coupled | Feb 25 19:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, back when they made the n900 | Feb 25 19:11 |
| MinceR | which was ages ago | Feb 25 19:11 |
| Sosumi | back in 2008 | Feb 25 19:11 |
| Sosumi | before the iphone 3g | Feb 25 19:11 |
| Sosumi | but since I've never used one | Feb 25 19:13 |
| Sosumi | I can't tell if apple copied anything from maemo | Feb 25 19:13 |
| MinceR | what i know is that samsung did the things first for which crApple sued them | Feb 25 19:13 |
| Sosumi | no idea, all I know is that both galaxy phones and the original iphones looked like crap | Feb 25 19:14 |
| Sosumi | these later versions actually look nice | Feb 25 19:15 |
| Sosumi | but kind of can't beat the looks of the htc one | Feb 25 19:15 |
| MinceR | i prefer the looks of the galaxy nexus | Feb 25 19:15 |
| Sosumi | it is all plastic | Feb 25 19:15 |
| MinceR | no, it's not | Feb 25 19:16 |
| MinceR | and even if it was, what does it matter | Feb 25 19:16 |
| Sosumi | plastic with a glass cover? | Feb 25 19:17 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Feb 25 19:17 |
| Sosumi | it does matter, when manufacturers are trowing 5 inches more screens on those things | Feb 25 19:18 |
| Sosumi | the risk of cracking the screen due to some pressure becomes much higher | Feb 25 19:18 |
| Sosumi | the metal makes sure the phone frame doesn't twist | Feb 25 19:19 |
| Sosumi | and it'd look much better than the chromed plastic on the galaxy note or galaxy s4 | Feb 25 19:19 |
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| Sosumi | so for me, htc one wins when it comes to durability | Feb 25 19:20 |
| Sosumi | and if crapple ends up trowing a sapphire glass into the iphone | Feb 25 19:21 |
| Sosumi | they'll also have a very sturdy phone | Feb 25 19:21 |
| MinceR | crApple has a very sturdy phone because nothing you do to it can decrease its functionality | Feb 25 19:21 |
| MinceR | as it starts with none | Feb 25 19:21 |
| MinceR | as for the metal making the phone tougher -- it would be nice to see drop tests confirm that :> | Feb 25 19:22 |
| synchris | even chinese companies make more durable phones see for ex. oppo finder 5 | Feb 25 19:22 |
| Sosumi | I meant it has resisting twists and pressure without cracking the screen | Feb 25 19:22 |
| MinceR | a chinese company makes the hypePhone | Feb 25 19:22 |
| Sosumi | the metal frame will always be better than plastic | Feb 25 19:23 |
| MinceR | and HTC is also based in the republic of china | Feb 25 19:23 |
| synchris | ... | Feb 25 19:23 |
| Sosumi | now if you want a phone without decreased functionality | Feb 25 19:23 |
| Sosumi | there's the nexus 5 | Feb 25 19:23 |
| synchris | if u consider Lenovo chinese for example... | Feb 25 19:23 |
| MinceR | you don't? | Feb 25 19:24 |
| synchris | eh i dont | Feb 25 19:24 |
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| Sosumi | I don't need a phone | Feb 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: well, i like the nexus 5 but not for the look | Feb 25 19:24 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | though maybe i'd like it more if i saw it (not just on pictures) | Feb 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | i don't know how well its minimal aesthetics work | Feb 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | hay sebsebseb | Feb 25 19:24 |
| MinceR | then again, i don't choose phones for the looks anyway :> | Feb 25 19:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: hi | Feb 25 19:26 |
| gde33 | we shuold develop a phone for efficient spying | Feb 25 19:30 |
| MinceR | crApple already did that | Feb 25 19:31 |
| MinceR | and so did m$ | Feb 25 19:31 |
| gde33 | send the data straight to the nsa and/or keep it on a server for them depending on their choices | Feb 25 19:31 |
| MinceR | already done | Feb 25 19:31 |
| MinceR | in fact, the functionality can be added to many phones via skype | Feb 25 19:31 |
| gde33 | they already have it but they dont route the packages efficently, in a transparent way | Feb 25 19:32 |
| MinceR | or you could just call and text and let the telco log everything | Feb 25 19:32 |
| MinceR | or use cleartext messaging | Feb 25 19:32 |
| gde33 | forced cleartext | Feb 25 19:33 |
| MinceR | a closed messaging system that doesn't implement encryption | Feb 25 19:34 |
| MinceR | does whatsapp have encryption, for example? | Feb 25 19:34 |
| gde33 | the nudist protocol | Feb 25 19:34 |
| MinceR | also, you could send messages through dumbFuckBook, that too is a direct line to the nsa | Feb 25 19:34 |
| Sosumi | and so did google | Feb 25 19:35 |
| gde33 | I find it easy to have complex ideas but it quickly gets to vague to explain. Success seems to depend on how easy something can be understood. | Feb 25 19:40 |
| gde33 | The trick is to come up with something supper complex that can be understood easily | Feb 25 19:41 |
| gde33 | My best one so far was to create a network of internet people who just agree to -in the future- look at something if at least 100 000 people signed a petition for the something. | Feb 25 19:43 |
| gde33 | you sign up, nothing happens, but eventually generic topics can be brought to the table if there are enough people interested in bringing the topic to the attention. | Feb 25 19:45 |
| gde33 | a plan has to identify a problem, propose a solution, try measure how much work it requires and/or try to put a price tag on it | Feb 25 19:47 |
| gde33 | have the spec for the spec | Feb 25 19:49 |
| MinceR | what is people's basis on which to decide whether to sign? | Feb 25 19:53 |
| Sosumi | wait | Feb 25 19:54 |
| Sosumi | would you rely on the same kind of people that voted Obama in, twice, to make such decisions? | Feb 25 19:54 |
| Sosumi | since your typical ihpone buyer belongs to that demographic | Feb 25 19:55 |
| MinceR | are you saying that the hypePhone is less bad than Obomber? :> | Feb 25 19:55 |
| MinceR | (i haven't even thought of comparing them yet) | Feb 25 19:56 |
| Sosumi | no, I'm saying that you just can't rely on dumb animals to make decisions | Feb 25 19:56 |
| Sosumi | specially, decisions that affect you | Feb 25 19:57 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 25 19:57 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, there's no other option | Feb 25 19:57 |
| Sosumi | or me, personally or the tools that need | Feb 25 19:57 |
| Sosumi | *I | Feb 25 19:58 |
| Sosumi | or might end up needing | Feb 25 19:58 |
| Sosumi | mob rule doesn't work when all the mob does is parrot back what they hear or read | Feb 25 19:58 |
| Sosumi | from the "trusted" news sources without putting some thought into it | Feb 25 19:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3685447 | Feb 25 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | How #Mozilla Thin... | Feb 25 20:00 | |
| schestowitz | "I need to confirm sources, but I heard that this time around that it's not just that Firefox is up for it's renewal of the deal, but basically that they'd been told that it was over as of September. I haven't done much research to check this though." | Feb 25 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/02/why-should-ukraine-not-split/ | Feb 25 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Why Should Ukraine Not Split? [ http://ur1.ca/gp5ox ] | Feb 25 21:02 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438410315546787840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438410949792636928 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438411549041238016 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438412825556705280 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438419279659425793 | Feb 25 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #zdnet is very strong poison. #android devices are now covered by former #microsoft employees there, now pretending to be journalists | Feb 25 21:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 8 Things We Expect from Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) http://t.co/hmE2zvn1vS #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Feb 25 21:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.junauza.com | 8 Things We Expect from Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) | TechSource | Feb 25 21:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google http://t.co/1n2RO9HTZP | Feb 25 21:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Abuses of Rights: News About Surveillance, Torture, and Assassination http://t.co/up5l5CEto4 #technology plays major role here | Feb 25 21:18 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Fedora 21's Schedule Is Closer To Being Figured Out http://t.co/sOHlnYVlGH #fedora #redhat #gnu #linux | Feb 25 21:18 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438419379211210752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438419631108542464 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438420684143095808 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438421138969210881 | Feb 25 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Today in #Techrights http://t.co/yIy6J5dX9s | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Qt5 To Most Likely Stick With Time-Based Released http://t.co/cro3ur631R #qt5 #qt #kde | Feb 25 21:19 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tizen Smartwatches Tip Samsung's Ecosystem-First Strategy http://t.co/1iLBgYWhTB #tizen #linux | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Tizen Smartwatches Tip Samsung's Ecosystem-First Strategy | Linux.com | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Sony launches #Xperia Z2 tablet at #MWC14 http://t.co/6Xy2TYZtPG #sony dumped #windows #vaio and now a #linux backer | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Sony launches Xperia Z2 tablet at MWC14 | Muktware | Feb 25 21:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438423900939358208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438427933951410177 | Feb 25 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: My Comments as Posted to the UK Cabinet Office Standards Hub (now it's your turn) http://t.co/Ex5pify6HW Andy Updegrove. #odf #uk | Feb 25 21:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.consortiuminfo.org | My Comments as Posted to the UK Cabinet Office Standards Hub (now it's your turn) - ConsortiumInfo.org | Feb 25 21:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: War on the poor, not on poverty http://t.co/QsD7zadZA4 the #billgates approach | Feb 25 21:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | New York abandons plan to clear subways of sleeping homeless people | World news | theguardian.com | Feb 25 21:41 | |
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| gde33 | yeah http://userstyles.org/styles/63613/duckduckgo-rms-style | Feb 25 21:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-userstyles.org | Duckduckgo RMS STYLE - Themes and Skins for Duckduckgo - userstyles.org [ http://ur1.ca/gp5y4 ] | Feb 25 21:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX8K9Yb6ZwA | Feb 25 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 'La-La Land': 'EU doesn't have political capital to spend on Ukraine' - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gp5z0 ] | Feb 25 21:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://d.viewskew.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_2d769957bae4c80ee77e.jpg | Feb 25 22:00 |
| schestowitz | https://d.viewskew.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_280172fbbd75f1c4d603.jpg | Feb 25 22:01 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438430312474103809 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438430835080171521 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438433817901432834 | Feb 25 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: MakerBot's Creative Revolution Runs on Linux http://t.co/hUOUExgoTU #makerbot #linux | Feb 25 22:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | MakerBot's Creative Revolution Runs on Linux | Linux.com | Feb 25 22:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Galaxy S5 revealed in all its glory — launches in April http://t.co/qpTgMbuTF4 #android #linux | Feb 25 22:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Galaxy S5 revealed in all its glory -- launches in April | Muktware | Feb 25 22:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Bullies https://t.co/KnoeHRPHId | Feb 25 22:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438434454231855105 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438438782426419200 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438438905948672000 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438439367124979713 | Feb 25 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Theft https://t.co/1jzXMSf7NC | Feb 25 22:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: HTC announces Desire 816 and 610 at MWC14 http://t.co/zhUHWtAtE2 #htc #android #linux | Feb 25 22:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | HTC announces Desire 816 and 610 at MWC14 | Muktware | Feb 25 22:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "IBM believes it's making a safe bet by opening its middleware stack to its SoftLayer Platform-as-a-Service" http://t.co/dFJx4hDIa9 | Feb 25 22:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | IBM places billion dollar bet on BlueMix PaaS cloud | ZDNet | Feb 25 22:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "installing Ubuntu, or any distro for that matter' http://t.co/D2r3I9MznX so just say #gnu #linux and not headline bait | Feb 25 22:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.datamation.com | How to Avoid Breaking Ubuntu - Datamation | Feb 25 22:26 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689777 | Feb 25 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Feb 25 22:41 | |
| schestowitz | "It's like they're reading my mind..." | Feb 25 22:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689569 | Feb 25 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Sony launches #Xp... | Feb 25 22:41 | |
| schestowitz | "Sony should have launched a PSP tablet for remote play on the PS4 and for playing Vita games. Another missed opportunity." | Feb 25 22:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438445200755924992 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438446640698232832 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438446899889463296 | Feb 25 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #prism exempt #whatsup like apps http://t.co/LAK1X4vZzM | Feb 25 22:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> liquidat.wordpress.com | Current distribution of WhatsApp alternatives | /home/liquidat – Open Source, Linux and Business | Feb 25 22:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Can You Survive on a Chromebook Alone? http://t.co/ITn5UIyq7f #google #gnu | Feb 25 22:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.maximumpc.com | Can You Survive on a Chromebook Alone? | Maximum PC | Feb 25 22:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A look at Tanglu 1.0 'Aequorea Victoria' GNOME http://t.co/5QWwHmYI44 #gnome #debian #linux | Feb 25 22:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thelinuxrain.com | The Linux Rain - A look at Tanglu 1.0 'Aequorea Victoria' GNOME | Feb 25 22:56 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Nyssen11/status/438534967912833025 | Feb 26 06:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nyssen11: @schestowitz Managed by the Tizen Association http://t.co/dULCJpzUkN | Feb 26 06:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tizenassociation.org | Tizen Association - | Feb 26 06:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689438 | Feb 26 06:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Stencyl 3.0 Relea... | Feb 26 06:22 | |
| schestowitz | '...or you could use GooCreate which is: Free as in beer for open projects Not distro or os specific Exports to HTML5+JS rather than outdated and proprietary flash format Is just as happy making 3d games as 2d Has a pleasant and modern UI while still also being able to make code free games The only downside is that both Stencyl and GooCreate are proprietary. I really wish that the Gluon project had ended up going more in this direction | Feb 26 06:22 |
| schestowitz | and had survived. Still, until then, GooCreate lets people create FOSS projects using HTML 5 for all platforms for free." | Feb 26 06:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688295 | Feb 26 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Privatising #pris... | Feb 26 06:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688295 | Feb 26 06:23 |
| schestowitz | <blockquote>“You can become your own mini-NSA,” Event Zero C.E.O. David Tucker said. “Just make sure it doesn’t end up on WikiLeaks.”</blockquote> | Feb 26 06:23 |
| schestowitz | Goes better with Sharepoint. | Feb 26 06:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 26 06:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688216 | Feb 26 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Wow, Zuckerface i... | Feb 26 06:23 | |
| schestowitz | "Why should he care. The IPO is over and he's got his money."" | Feb 26 06:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux snapshot: Pay rates and employers with | Feb 26 08:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the most job ads http://t.co/fOEcNNnWmd | Feb 26 08:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0t | Feb 26 08:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rikomagic MK902 LE is an ARM-based Linux PC | Feb 26 08:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5v4rSU6sXu | Feb 26 08:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0u | Feb 26 08:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hello, MS-Android. Good-bye, Windows Phone | Feb 26 08:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/owYFsWZAgW | Feb 26 08:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0v | Feb 26 08:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Reven meets Kickstarter Goal, headed for Linux | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/KqT7v2momT | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0w | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux-based platform aims to speed M2M | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | development http://t.co/aPdgv87skW | Feb 26 08:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0x | Feb 26 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux snapshot: Pay rates and employers with the most job ads | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rikomagic MK902 LE is an ARM-based Linux PC | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hello, MS-Android. Good-bye, Windows Phone | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Reven meets Kickstarter Goal, headed for Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based platform aims to speed M2M development | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Press Talks Up Major Open-Source Linux | Feb 26 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver Features http://t.co/B6TnJtdDR2 | Feb 26 08:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpac5 | Feb 26 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Press Talks Up Major Open-Source Linux Driver Features | Tux Machines | Feb 26 08:53 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Feb 26 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think that the Microsoft Android is going to be their replacement for Windows Phone. | Feb 26 09:43 |
| DaemonFC | Within the next year, they'll probably announce that Windows Phone is being phased out. | Feb 26 09:44 |
| MinceR | if they can make it suck enough, it can be! | Feb 26 09:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure it's an improvement over Windows Phone if they have access to Android apps. | Feb 26 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't buy one. | Feb 26 09:47 |
| MinceR | if. | Feb 26 09:47 |
| MinceR | m$'s goal is probably to make android look bad | Feb 26 09:47 |
| MinceR | well, their ui already looks horrendous, so that's partly done | Feb 26 09:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/Tjwox3Fnlc | Feb 26 10:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpaub | Feb 26 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Feb 26 10:18 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1294192/What-fizzy-drinks-makes-addictive.html | Feb 26 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | What is it about fizzy drinks that makes them so addictive? | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gpav1 ] | Feb 26 10:21 | |
| DaemonFC | "Lisa McKay used to drink 20 cans of Coke a day" | Feb 26 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | eww | Feb 26 10:21 |
| DaemonFC | Even drinking 1-2 cans a day is not good for you. | Feb 26 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | empty calories | Feb 26 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | not good for your teeth or bones | Feb 26 10:22 |
| DaemonFC | or pancreas | Feb 26 10:23 |
| DaemonFC | or anything, really | Feb 26 10:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 14.04 LTS Now in Feature Freeze | Feb 26 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/32OeLabk2x | Feb 26 11:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpb5c | Feb 26 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 14.04 LTS Now in Feature Freeze | Tux Machines | Feb 26 11:01 | |
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| Sosumi | best news ever | Feb 26 11:31 |
| Sosumi | http://www.anandtech.com/show/7817/elop-to-lead-devices-and-studios-at-microsoft-this-means-xbox | Feb 26 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | Elop to Lead Devices and Studios at Microsoft: This Means Xbox [ http://ur1.ca/gpbfi ] | Feb 26 11:31 | |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 26 11:31 |
| Sosumi | the guy that wanted to kill the xbox and other hardware | Feb 26 11:31 |
| Sosumi | is going to head that division | Feb 26 11:31 |
| Sosumi | uberwin | Feb 26 11:31 |
| Sosumi | hope he succeeds | Feb 26 11:32 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 26 11:32 |
| MinceR | so do i | Feb 26 11:32 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile in the land of the setting sun | Feb 26 11:33 |
| Sosumi | crapple and its new CEO are still having trouble shipping the trashcans | Feb 26 11:35 |
| Sosumi | it's like they don't want to sell them | Feb 26 11:35 |
| Sosumi | but it is ok | Feb 26 11:35 |
| Sosumi | back when the powermac cube | Feb 26 11:35 |
| Sosumi | they had a huge demand at the beginning | Feb 26 11:36 |
| Sosumi | but then it died out | Feb 26 11:36 |
| Sosumi | as most of the ppl buying the cube were doing so for the design | Feb 26 11:36 |
| Sosumi | and I see the same repeating with the trashcan pro | Feb 26 11:37 |
| Sosumi | but the problem this time is that they're not meeting the initial demand | Feb 26 11:37 |
| Sosumi | meaning | Feb 26 11:37 |
| Sosumi | the next time they refresh | Feb 26 11:37 |
| Sosumi | they'll probably overstock in order to prevent delays | Feb 26 11:38 |
| Sosumi | but now given that the initial demand is gone and so are the typical mac pro users | Feb 26 11:38 |
| MinceR | what happened to them? | Feb 26 11:38 |
| MinceR | moved to hypePads? | Feb 26 11:39 |
| Sosumi | they'll be sitting on a couple of trashcans that don't sell | Feb 26 11:39 |
| Sosumi | no | Feb 26 11:39 |
| Sosumi | moved to hp Z workstations, dell precisions and so on | Feb 26 11:39 |
| MinceR | strange | Feb 26 11:39 |
| Sosumi | why? | Feb 26 11:39 |
| MinceR | because those don't have the logo they covet :> | Feb 26 11:40 |
| Sosumi | they do the job in order to pay the bills | Feb 26 11:40 |
| Sosumi | I think that is what matters in the end | Feb 26 11:40 |
| Sosumi | plus | Feb 26 11:40 |
| MinceR | yes, to you and me | Feb 26 11:40 |
| Sosumi | they run exactly the same software, better | Feb 26 11:40 |
| MinceR | but we're not typical crApple users | Feb 26 11:40 |
| Sosumi | the typical crapple user didn't buy towers like the mac pro | Feb 26 11:42 |
| Sosumi | they bought laptops or the imacs | Feb 26 11:42 |
| Sosumi | just picture yourself as a mactard | Feb 26 11:43 |
| Sosumi | and then look at the clutter of cables and the need to open the mac pro cover in order to pull in hdd/ssd, cards, etc | Feb 26 11:43 |
| Sosumi | way too many options | Feb 26 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.9 review – KDE and Xfce desktops | Feb 26 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/s8e05MEtAJ | Feb 26 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpbjn | Feb 26 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Different strokes for different folks when it | Feb 26 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | comes to Linux desktops http://t.co/AC3yGJpHBI | Feb 26 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpbjp | Feb 26 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 0.8.9 review – KDE and Xfce desktops | Tux Machines | Feb 26 11:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Different strokes for different folks when it comes to Linux desktops | Tux Machines | Feb 26 11:44 | |
| Sosumi | mactards like "clean", minimalistic, kewl looking craps | Feb 26 11:45 |
| Sosumi | neither the mac pro tower nor the xserve, alongside the supporting software fitted that new paradigm crapple is following now | Feb 26 11:46 |
| Sosumi | nor was crapple anymore keeping up with windows and gnu/linux alternatives | Feb 26 11:47 |
| Sosumi | so everyone that actually needed those things | Feb 26 11:47 |
| Sosumi | bailed out | Feb 26 11:47 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 26 11:48 |
| MinceR | nobody but a mactard would want a crApple product | Feb 26 11:48 |
| MinceR | overpriced garbage with no customization, no flexibility and an idiot-oriented stupid OS | Feb 26 11:48 |
| MinceR | and often low quality | Feb 26 11:48 |
| Sosumi | I have to disagree on that front | Feb 26 11:49 |
| Sosumi | their offerings up to 2009 were quite good | Feb 26 11:49 |
| Sosumi | and I loved the educational discounts | Feb 26 11:49 |
| MinceR | then we'll just disagree :> | Feb 26 11:49 |
| MinceR | oh, also a retarded and hostile approach to their customers | Feb 26 11:50 |
| MinceR | which started with assuming that they were all idiots | Feb 26 11:50 |
| MinceR | which was a self-fulfilling prophecy :> | Feb 26 11:50 |
| Sosumi | notice that when I mention their offerings | Feb 26 11:51 |
| Sosumi | I just mean the mac pro and the xserve | Feb 26 11:51 |
| Sosumi | nothing else | Feb 26 11:51 |
| Sosumi | no overheating macbooks | Feb 26 11:51 |
| Sosumi | nor imacs nor their plastic laptops | Feb 26 11:51 |
| MinceR | or self-igniting power connectors? | Feb 26 11:51 |
| Sosumi | indeed | Feb 26 11:51 |
| MinceR | or cracked touchpads? | Feb 26 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that the Mac Mini does not support DVI anymore. | Feb 26 11:52 |
| MinceR | or displays that did not have the panels crApple claimed they did? :> | Feb 26 11:52 |
| Sosumi | their using mini display port and forcing everyone to buy an adaptor | Feb 26 11:52 |
| MinceR | or self-melting "computers" like the crApple III? :> | Feb 26 11:52 |
| Sosumi | no idea of what an apple 2 or 3 is | Feb 26 11:53 |
| MinceR | home computers | Feb 26 11:53 |
| MinceR | the apple 2 had a good reputation, and i can't really know how much that had to do with reality | Feb 26 11:54 |
| MinceR | considering that it's apple | Feb 26 11:54 |
| Sosumi | did pre nextstep acquisition apple have computers? | Feb 26 11:54 |
| MinceR | but i know that apple 3s were so crap apple had people drop them on the ground to try and reseat chips or cards | Feb 26 11:54 |
| Sosumi | I though those were fancy toasters | Feb 26 11:54 |
| MinceR | well, they had the usual idiot boxes | Feb 26 11:54 |
| MinceR | both before and after | Feb 26 11:54 |
| MinceR | i don't see a change there :> | Feb 26 11:55 |
| MinceR | and i doubt they were particularly useful as toasters either | Feb 26 11:55 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 26 11:55 |
| Sosumi | talking of the devil | Feb 26 12:07 |
| Sosumi | http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HP+Z820+Teardown/22396 | Feb 26 12:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ifixit.com | HP Z820 Teardown - iFixit [ http://ur1.ca/gpbov ] | Feb 26 12:07 | |
| MinceR | noufixit.com | Feb 26 12:08 |
| Sosumi | too bad it doesn't allow 4 dual slot cards | Feb 26 12:08 |
| Sosumi | like the high end asus boards do | Feb 26 12:09 |
| MinceR | oh, i used a similar hp box | Feb 26 12:09 |
| Sosumi | including their dual cpu model | Feb 26 12:09 |
| MinceR | at work :> | Feb 26 12:09 |
| Sosumi | we have the 2009 and 2010 revs at my university | Feb 26 12:09 |
| MinceR | but i never saw the insides | Feb 26 12:09 |
| Sosumi | and they all kind of look exactly the same | Feb 26 12:10 |
| Sosumi | the only difference with the ones we have | Feb 26 12:11 |
| Sosumi | is that the ram slots are all on top | Feb 26 12:11 |
| Sosumi | but still nice, too bad the slot displacement doesn't allow for 4 gpus/compute cards | Feb 26 12:12 |
| Sosumi | since dual cpu models allow for four 16x pcie slots | Feb 26 12:13 |
| Sosumi | foxcomm also appears to be the manufacturer or at least a part supplier | Feb 26 12:15 |
| Sosumi | http://www.asus.com/pt/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/Z9PED8_WS/ | Feb 26 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.asus.com | Servidores & Workstations - Z9PE-D8 WS [ http://ur1.ca/gpbqz ] | Feb 26 12:17 | |
| Sosumi | that one in a cosmos s2 box or the top of the line corsair box | Feb 26 12:17 |
| Sosumi | would make the ultimate workstation | Feb 26 12:18 |
| Sosumi | also the hp board is using lower grade capacitors | Feb 26 12:21 |
| Sosumi | no rubycon or nippon chemi | Feb 26 12:21 |
| Sosumi | managed to spot a capxon | Feb 26 12:21 |
| Sosumi | which is a second grade manufacturer | Feb 26 12:22 |
| Sosumi | and delta manufactured psu | Feb 26 12:50 |
| Sosumi | same has the quad g5, 2009/2010 mac pros | Feb 26 12:50 |
| Sosumi | but at least crapple was using better capacitors | Feb 26 12:51 |
| Sosumi | typically sanyo denki and nippon chemi | Feb 26 12:51 |
| Sosumi | in the end, the z800 is just manufactured to be as cheap as possible | Feb 26 12:53 |
| Sosumi | with the best way to go being custom build | Feb 26 12:53 |
| Sosumi | so far | Feb 26 12:53 |
| Sosumi | haven't seen a lenovo or dell precision inside | Feb 26 12:53 |
| Sosumi | yet | Feb 26 12:53 |
| MinceR | considering the uefi fuckup and the m$ tax, it's probably best to go with a custom build if it doesn't have to be mobile | Feb 26 12:59 |
| MinceR | (mobile as in laptop/tablet pc/tablet/phone whatever) | Feb 26 13:00 |
| Sosumi | you can get rhel instead from windows | Feb 26 13:01 |
| Sosumi | from both hp and dell | Feb 26 13:01 |
| Sosumi | no idea about lenovo | Feb 26 13:01 |
| Sosumi | also even that asus board I linked | Feb 26 13:01 |
| Sosumi | has efi | Feb 26 13:01 |
| MinceR | that can be a nice option when it's given | Feb 26 13:02 |
| MinceR | then again, i wonder if they still have the "m$ gets paid per cpu sold even if it isn't sold with winblows" racket going :> | Feb 26 13:05 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Feb 26 13:05 |
| Sosumi | but given the components used, warranties and everything | Feb 26 13:06 |
| Sosumi | I'd say custom build has the higher end | Feb 26 13:06 |
| Sosumi | *higher hand | Feb 26 13:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 30 Big Companies and Devices Running on | Feb 26 13:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux http://t.co/CKjVyDSwU7 | Feb 26 13:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpc6m | Feb 26 13:17 |
| msb | Sosumi: About 18 hours ago, you said "with intel there's no alternative to them now on the desktop front ... amd (lol)" Are AMD CPUs no longer a good alternative to Intel? Why not? I've always used AMD, because Intel has done various evil things. | Feb 26 13:45 |
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| msb | Sosumi: Is AMD now far behind Intel in CPU performance? | Feb 26 13:52 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3691732 | Feb 26 13:52 |
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| schestowitz | "https://joindiaspora.comManjaro Linux with the XFCE desktop it's my favorite GNU/Linux distribution. Just few times arrive I are a little conflict with the package. It's easy solve it with the terminal console, just this affraid the beginners. In french I write this article about this distribution: http://libre-city.tk/blog/?p=1089 "/posts/3691732 | Feb 26 13:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libre-city.tk | Libre-City Blog | La distribution Manjaro Linux | Feb 26 13:53 | |
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| schestowitz | Sosumi: good news about Elop depending on your POV | Feb 26 13:56 |
| schestowitz | I don't know if it's good news | Feb 26 13:56 |
| schestowitz | depends on one's assessment of what goes on with Nokia next | Feb 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz | And also: | Feb 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz | if you don't mind being proven right that he was a malicious tool | Feb 26 13:57 |
| schestowitz | For passing patents, giving the car keys to Ballmer, etc. | Feb 26 13:57 |
| Sosumi | if Elop carries on with what he was saying | Feb 26 14:06 |
| Sosumi | during the "CEO" race | Feb 26 14:07 |
| Sosumi | xbox and other gadgets will be goner | Feb 26 14:07 |
| Sosumi | and amd can hardly compete with intel now in performance | Feb 26 14:07 |
| Sosumi | their latest 15 core xeon managed to beat a power 7 in some benches | Feb 26 14:08 |
| msb | Sosumi: If I want a cpu for a desktop, and want to pay about $200 to 300 for it, how do AMD and Intel CPUs compare? | Feb 26 14:26 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core | Feb 26 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cpubenchmark.net | PassMark CPU Lookup [ http://ur1.ca/gpclw ] | Feb 26 14:30 | |
| Sosumi | at low end amd wins | Feb 26 14:30 |
| msb | Sosumi: I want (almost) the best performance per price at the $2-300 level, but if the AMD is 10% slower than the Intel I'd still choose intel. | Feb 26 14:30 |
| msb | Sosumi: I want (almost) the best performance per price at the $2-300 level, but if the AMD is 10% slower than the Intel I'd still choose AMD. | Feb 26 14:30 |
| msb | Sosumi: Great! Many thanks! | Feb 26 14:33 |
| Sosumi | for what? | Feb 26 14:33 |
| msb | For this info | Feb 26 14:34 |
| msb | Wow, 8 cores. I can rule the world! | Feb 26 14:34 |
| Sosumi | lol | Feb 26 14:34 |
| Sosumi | also the fx-9590 | Feb 26 14:36 |
| Sosumi | haven't seen that on sale anywhere | Feb 26 14:36 |
| MinceR | no ARM cores listed :/ | Feb 26 14:36 |
| Sosumi | the fx-8350 is what everyone still has around here | Feb 26 14:37 |
| Sosumi | which makes me wander if amd has payed for enough fab capacity to supply cpus worldwide | Feb 26 14:38 |
| Sosumi | and not just some specific countries | Feb 26 14:38 |
| msb | Sosumi: Do compute-intensive Linux programs, like for converting xvid videos to x264 to save disk space, take advantage of 8 cores? | Feb 26 14:38 |
| Sosumi | handbrake, from what I know, does | Feb 26 14:39 |
| Sosumi | even more | Feb 26 14:39 |
| Sosumi | than 8 | Feb 26 14:39 |
| msb | Great! | Feb 26 14:39 |
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| msb | I have various xvid movies, and converting them to 264 would save about half the disk space. | Feb 26 14:44 |
| MinceR | it would result in additional loss of detail | Feb 26 14:45 |
| msb | I hope the inevitable increase in fuzziness would not be noticeable. | Feb 26 14:45 |
| MinceR | most likely | Feb 26 14:45 |
| msb | yeah | Feb 26 14:46 |
| MinceR | almost any lossy->lossy conversion is itself lossy | Feb 26 14:46 |
| msb | right | Feb 26 14:46 |
| msb | I have a few movies as vobs, but not many. | Feb 26 14:46 |
| msb | Oh well, there goes my reason for upgrading my 'puter. | Feb 26 14:47 |
| msb | Keeping Firefox from using too much CPU seems to have stopped the crashing involving the Nvidia display driver. | Feb 26 14:48 |
| msb | Maybe the recent Firefox updates have started using up something the driver has a limited supply of. | Feb 26 14:49 |
| msb | So I've been limiting the total number of firefox tabs to keep the cpu usage low. | Feb 26 14:49 |
| MinceR | NoScript can also help with that | Feb 26 14:50 |
| MinceR | and to a lesser degree, RefreshBlocker | Feb 26 14:50 |
| msb | NoScript kills javascript? | Feb 26 14:51 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 26 14:51 |
| MinceR | it can be set up to only allow the javascript that's absolutely necessary to use the page | Feb 26 14:51 |
| msb | How do it know? | Feb 26 14:51 |
| MinceR | you tell it which domains to allow | Feb 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | and whether for the rest of the session, or forever | Feb 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | though sometimes i just disable CSS to get the obstructions out of the way rather than allow the scripts that enable the close buttons and suc | Feb 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | h | Feb 26 14:52 |
| MinceR | i use Web Developer for that, alt+shift+a disables CSS | Feb 26 14:52 |
| msb | I think FF cyclically patrols all the tabs, so the more you have, the more cpu it uses. | Feb 26 14:53 |
| MinceR | dunno | Feb 26 14:54 |
| MinceR | but i'm pretty sure that javascript and refreshes running in the background are going to use cpu | Feb 26 14:54 |
| msb | Like I have about 80 tabs in 3 windows now, and the cpu usage is kinda humpy and running about 30% of cpu capacity. | Feb 26 14:57 |
| msb | The humps are about 2 seconds apart. | Feb 26 14:57 |
| msb | If it gets to twice that much usage, FF can crash. That's ok, because restarting it brings back everything as it was. But in the last 2 months KDE3 has been crashing with error messages from the display driver, and FF may be the cause. | Feb 26 15:00 |
| msb | Do many web pages auto-refresh? Other than, e.g., weather reports. | Feb 26 15:02 |
| MinceR | 'news' sites love their autorefresh | Feb 26 15:02 |
| msb | Ah. | Feb 26 15:02 |
| MinceR | they sometimes rip the page out from under me when i'm reading it | Feb 26 15:03 |
| MinceR | and if i have no connectivity, suddenly i get an error page | Feb 26 15:03 |
| MinceR | first i hoped noscript would stop the madness, but it didn't | Feb 26 15:03 |
| MinceR | then i found RefreshBlocker and now the idiocy is contained :> | Feb 26 15:03 |
| msb | Pages with flash use a lot of cpu. So I routinely kill the flash container. It comes back when I refresh a flash page. | Feb 26 15:05 |
| msb | In all the generations of Firefox, I've always had a desktop devoted to dealing with its problems. | Feb 26 15:06 |
| MinceR | i tend to disable the flash plugin in my main firefox profile | Feb 26 15:07 |
| MinceR | though this is probably from the time when flash crashed more often and occasionally took the browser with itself | Feb 26 15:07 |
| msb | I want it for youtube. | Feb 26 15:07 |
| MinceR | i have a separate profile for flash | Feb 26 15:07 |
| MinceR | and for when i don't want to hunt domains to find out what scripts the damn page needs to work :> | Feb 26 15:08 |
| MinceR | i also have a script to kill all flash instances, in case it goes out of control :> | Feb 26 15:08 |
| msb | I have a script called kp which does -- killall plugin-container | Feb 26 15:09 |
| msb | That kills flash. | Feb 26 15:09 |
| msb | I think flash crashes killing the browser is why they put in the plugin-container. | Feb 26 15:12 |
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| MinceR | :) | Feb 26 15:15 |
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| msb | Firefox is an old friend, and very capable, so I put up with its problems. But if they put in unremovable ads, that will change very quickly. | Feb 26 15:24 |
| MinceR | there will probably be forks without it | Feb 26 15:24 |
| MinceR | also, i tend to turn off the new tab page and they said the ads will be there | Feb 26 15:24 |
| MinceR | also, it will probably be easy to patch the ads out | Feb 26 15:25 |
| msb | What's the new tab page? | Feb 26 15:26 |
| MinceR | when you open a new tab, by default it has thumbnail links and stuff on it | Feb 26 15:27 |
| MinceR | that's the one | Feb 26 15:27 |
| MinceR | it can be toggled by clicking on the 3x3 squares icon in the top right corner | Feb 26 15:28 |
| msb | Ah, when you press Alt-T. | Feb 26 15:28 |
| msb | I guess I mean Ctrl-T | Feb 26 15:30 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Feb 26 15:30 |
| msb | Well, if turning off those thumbnails kills the ads, that's easy. I don't use them much, because typing in a couple of characters of freequently used urls creates the nice drop-down menu. | Feb 26 15:32 |
| MinceR | i expect drama when the release with the ads rolls out anyway. :> | Feb 26 15:36 |
| MinceR | and it's possible that iceweasel will patch them out :> | Feb 26 15:36 |
| MinceR | (the debian version of firefox) | Feb 26 15:36 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBebDeEUNcg | Feb 26 16:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Spain: New Sony smarphone plays video with the fishes - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gpdjz ] | Feb 26 16:16 | |
| Sosumi | pffff | Feb 26 16:17 |
| Sosumi | on the iphone all you need is to download a app | Feb 26 16:17 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 26 16:19 |
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| Sosumi | msb, what is the top amd fx model available at your place? | Feb 26 18:32 |
| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/adikkap/status/438706661549936640/photo/1 | Feb 26 18:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@adikkap: @salty__1970 @evabraun1912 И обоих самолетов(штурмовиков!) http://t.co/6geIIugZPw | Feb 26 18:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@adikkap: @salty__1970 @evabraun1912 И обоих самолетов(штурмовиков!) http://t.co/6geIIugZPw | Feb 26 18:50 | |
| Sosumi | latvia airforce on standby after drills in russia | Feb 26 18:51 |
| Sosumi | plus US telling russia to not be "proactive" in the ukranian affair | Feb 26 18:51 |
| Sosumi | after the destabilization campaign conducted by Nuland | Feb 26 18:53 |
| Sosumi | well Nuland and others | Feb 26 18:57 |
| Sosumi | although the "F the EU remark holds to itself" | Feb 26 18:58 |
| Sosumi | Ukraine could pretty much play both sides | Feb 26 18:58 |
| Sosumi | now what could | Feb 26 18:59 |
| Sosumi | is the US/NATO use the ukranian territory for the missile shield | Feb 26 18:59 |
| Sosumi | against russia | Feb 26 18:59 |
| Sosumi | and if not for the missile platforms | Feb 26 18:59 |
| Sosumi | at least for radionics | Feb 26 19:00 |
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| Sosumi | so at this moment | Feb 26 19:01 |
| Sosumi | it looks like US/NATO = 1 - Russia = 0 | Feb 26 19:01 |
| Sosumi | and they could pretty ship the mobs or use the ukranian "event" to destabilize belarus | Feb 26 19:02 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3691291 | Feb 26 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Trying to float a... | Feb 26 21:02 | |
| schestowitz | "I don't get it, China does not trust the US and knows well the spying issue, and even so uses Windows." | Feb 26 21:03 |
| schestowitz | Network effect, it's time to quit the lockin | Feb 26 21:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3692120 | Feb 26 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Hoard data to fig... | Feb 26 21:04 | |
| schestowitz | "What an unbelievable world we live in. People thought I was paranoid to imagine that private companies did this, even when I had quotes from former HP Bruce Perens and training documents from Microsoft. Now we know that government also commits this crime on behalf of private companies and that they share enormous databases designed to track our every move. We need to outlaw the data collection and end the government programs. That | Feb 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz | will be difficult given the power the programs give those who run them." | Feb 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz | RMS always says that stopping collection is the only solution and I suspect he's right. | Feb 26 21:04 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689668 | Feb 26 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | War on the poor, ... | Feb 26 21:05 | |
| schestowitz | ""They tell me go back to the shelter but it’s dangerous there. Kids want my belongings.” Those kind of thieves should be jailed and the keys trown away, they're not only unable to sustain themselves, but even while receiving help like sheltering they keep infrin"They tell me go back to the shelter but it’s dangerous there. Kids want my belongings.” Those kind of thieves should be jailed and the keys trown away, they're not | Feb 26 21:05 |
| schestowitz | only unable to sustain themselves, but even while receiving help like sheltering they keep infringing the law for no good reason. If I'm going to pay for food and shelter for that kind of people via taxes, I prefer hosting them in a prison rather than in a shelter."ging the law for no good reason. If I'm going to pay for food and shelter for that kind of people via taxes, I prefer hosting them in a prison rather than in a shelter. | Feb 26 21:05 |
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| msb | Sosumi: Looks like the best deal is AMD FX-9590 directly from Amazon for $270 | Feb 26 21:19 |
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| msb | Sosumi: However, people on Amazon say that at 220 watts the FX-9590 gets too hot without a liquid cooler. The FX-8350 is $180. | Feb 26 21:35 |
| msb | and 125 watts. | Feb 26 21:36 |
| Sosumi | you'd probably be forced into a closed loop | Feb 26 21:37 |
| Sosumi | cooler | Feb 26 21:37 |
| Sosumi | which would probably be ok | Feb 26 21:38 |
| Sosumi | since the higher end ones cost as much as a top noctua or termalright higher end model | Feb 26 21:39 |
| msb | Passmarks are 9050 and 10,399. So I'd get a 15% speed increase, which wouldn't be noticeable, and a lot of aggravation. | Feb 26 21:39 |
| Sosumi | buy what fits your needs :) | Feb 26 21:41 |
| msb | This looks like a case where stepping back from the state of the art is a real good idea. | Feb 26 21:41 |
| msb | Well, what kind of need would dictate going for 15% more speed with cooling problems. | Feb 26 21:42 |
| msb | ? | Feb 26 21:42 |
| msb | One sixth faster. It would be barely noticeable in a game. | Feb 26 21:43 |
| Sosumi | amd needs to fix that in a newer architecture | Feb 26 21:44 |
| Sosumi | also I don't kind of game so I have no idea on how performance would escalate | Feb 26 21:45 |
| msb | How could it be other than linear? | Feb 26 21:45 |
| Sosumi | well ofc | Feb 26 21:45 |
| msb | assuming the graphics system can keep up. | Feb 26 21:46 |
| Sosumi | but given the cooling requirement | Feb 26 21:46 |
| Sosumi | one would have to consider how both cpus would behave using the same cooler | Feb 26 21:46 |
| Sosumi | running the same game | Feb 26 21:46 |
| Sosumi | and compare if the hotter version would end up throtling | Feb 26 21:47 |
| msb | The guys on Amazon say the 9590 just will not work with air cooling -- gets much too hot. | Feb 26 21:47 |
| msb | And even if you got full speed from the 9590, psychologically is 15% speed increase noticeable? | Feb 26 21:48 |
| Sosumi | and how would it do with a 140mm closed loop cooler? | Feb 26 21:48 |
| msb | Which is closed-loop liquid and a 14cm fan? | Feb 26 21:49 |
| Sosumi | both, with 1:1 matching | Feb 26 21:50 |
| msb | matching? | Feb 26 21:50 |
| Sosumi | yes, the fan has the dimension of the radiator | Feb 26 21:51 |
| Sosumi | and some can take 2 on each side for push pull configs | Feb 26 21:52 |
| msb | Maybe if you used liquid nitrogen cooling on the 9590 and overclocked it you could get a psychologically noticeable speed increase over the 8350. | Feb 26 21:53 |
| Sosumi | lol | Feb 26 21:55 |
| Sosumi | it depends on what your needs are | Feb 26 21:55 |
| Sosumi | do those 15% matter? | Feb 26 21:55 |
| msb | Right. How could it matter? | Feb 26 21:55 |
| Sosumi | I don't know | Feb 26 21:56 |
| Sosumi | to me they just come with a huge tradeof | Feb 26 21:56 |
| Sosumi | aka heat | Feb 26 21:56 |
| msb | Unless you're running some kind of commercial realtime media processing system that just happens to need that much additional speed... | Feb 26 21:56 |
| msb | exactly | Feb 26 21:57 |
| Sosumi | for that I'd be picking intel | Feb 26 21:57 |
| Sosumi | since they run cooler | Feb 26 21:57 |
| msb | and paying 500+ bucks for it | Feb 26 21:57 |
| Sosumi | and don't force me into a risky watercooling system that might end up leaking | Feb 26 21:58 |
| Sosumi | also must consider how much power it takes to run vs computability | Feb 26 21:59 |
| msb | you can get into the 12000 and 13000 specmarks with Intel for 500+ bucks. That would give a noticeable speed increase. | Feb 26 22:00 |
| msb | At least if you saw the two systems running side by side. | Feb 26 22:00 |
| msb | All things considered, I think the FX-8350, which is the one you suggested in the first place, is the sweet spot. | Feb 26 22:01 |
| Sosumi | just get a good board for it | Feb 26 22:02 |
| msb | ASUS | Feb 26 22:02 |
| Sosumi | well ofc | Feb 26 22:02 |
| Sosumi | but a high quality one | Feb 26 22:03 |
| msb | ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX -- $178 from Amazon | Feb 26 22:04 |
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| msb | milspec components 8^) | Feb 26 22:22 |
| msb | So far I haven't been able to find a page from a Linux user running that mobo and the FX-8350 cpu. Google ignores the word "linux" even if I put it first in the search line. It's those goddamned reptilians I tell you! | Feb 26 22:25 |
| msb | There are OK reports of Linux, that mobo, and lower AMD CPUs. | Feb 26 22:26 |
| MinceR | what if you prepend the + operator, as in +linux ? | Feb 26 22:26 |
| msb | What does that do? | Feb 26 22:26 |
| MinceR | it requires that that word appear in the results | Feb 26 22:26 |
| MinceR | (AND instead of OR) | Feb 26 22:26 |
| MinceR | at least i think that the docs say that's what it does | Feb 26 22:26 |
| msb | I thought it was always supposed to be AND! | Feb 26 22:27 |
| MinceR | i think it's not quite boolean | Feb 26 22:27 |
| MinceR | it's some sort of fuzzy thing | Feb 26 22:27 |
| msb | yeah, that fits with what I'm seeing | Feb 26 22:27 |
| msb | Yay, it worked! Thanks MinceR! Only 4 hits now, this is a good one: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/363365-28-asus-sabertooth-990fx-8350-build-notes-success | Feb 26 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0, AMD 8350 Build - My Notes for Success - AMD - Components [ http://ur1.ca/gpgfe ] | Feb 26 22:30 | |
| MinceR | np | Feb 26 22:32 |
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| msb | Currently I have an AMD Athlon64 5200 CPU, but I can't find a pathmark for it. | Feb 26 22:36 |
| msb | Maybe the pathmark program finds the cpu not worth its time and gives up in disgust. | Feb 26 22:37 |
| msb | Well, it only has 2 cores, so I'm sure I'll see a speed increase with 8. | Feb 26 22:38 |
| msb | I could get a good $200 video card, become a gamer, and develop my urge to kill. | Feb 26 22:39 |
| MinceR | :D | Feb 26 22:39 |
| msb | I wonder if there's a first-person-shooter game where you're an apartment tenant trying to kill your landlord. | Feb 26 22:40 |
| msb | I could get with that. | Feb 26 22:40 |
| msb | I figure if the cpu, mobo, ram, video card, and disk all cost about the same amount -- $150-200 -- then the price/performance of the system is optimized. | Feb 26 22:42 |
| msb | Assuming that you get the best available for that price for each of the components, of course. | Feb 26 22:42 |
| msb | I guess I should add case/power supply. | Feb 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Munich chooses open source groupware solution | Feb 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/GWi0Cl2PoG | Feb 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpgjf | Feb 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google brings KitKat launcher to all Nexus | Feb 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | devices http://t.co/YCjtso8V9M | Feb 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpgjg | Feb 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Education ministry Romania endorses Ubuntu | Feb 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/rKOQ3LQdcC | Feb 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpgjh | Feb 26 22:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux snapshot: Pay rates and employers with | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the most job ads http://t.co/KKXV7A43EA | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpgji | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian Mempo Still Aiming For Better Security | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/k3vPm8i6lD | Feb 26 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpgjj | Feb 26 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Munich chooses open source groupware solution | Tux Machines | Feb 26 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google brings KitKat launcher to all Nexus devices | Tux Machines | Feb 26 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Education ministry Romania endorses Ubuntu | Tux Machines | Feb 26 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux snapshot: Pay rates and employers with the most job ads | Tux Machines | Feb 26 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Mempo Still Aiming For Better Security | Tux Machines | Feb 26 22:44 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Feb 26 22:56 |
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| XFaCE | yo schestowitz__ | Feb 26 22:59 |
| msb | my current cpu is 1285 pathmark | Feb 26 23:03 |
| schestowitz__ | XFaCE: hey, what;s up? | Feb 26 23:04 |
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| icecrawler | hey msb_ | Feb 27 05:57 |
| icecrawler | hey DaemonFC | Feb 27 05:57 |
| DaemonFC | hello | Feb 27 06:29 |
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| msb | hi icecrawler | Feb 27 06:53 |
| msb | My family came from Ukraine, and now it's been taken over by Nazis. | Feb 27 06:54 |
| msb | Nazis backed by the US, including Hillary Clinton. | Feb 27 06:55 |
| MinceR | so the nazis backed by the us defeated the nazis backed by russia? :> | Feb 27 07:03 |
| msb | http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-and-the-politics-of-anti-semitism-west-upholds-neo-nazi-repression-of-ukraines-jewish-community/5370790 | Feb 27 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Ukraine and the “Politics of Anti-Semitism”: The West Upholds Neo-Nazi Repression of Ukraine’s Jewish Community | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gpjys ] | Feb 27 07:34 | |
| msb | http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukrainian-neo-nazis-declare-that-power-comes-out-of-the-barrels-of-their-guns/5371126 | Feb 27 07:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Ukrainian Neo-Nazis Declare that Power Comes Out of the Barrels of their Guns | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gpjzg ] | Feb 27 07:36 | |
| msb | http://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/23/neocons-and-the-ukraine-coup/ | Feb 27 07:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-consortiumnews.com | Neocons and the Ukraine Coup | Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/gpjzk ] | Feb 27 07:37 | |
| msb | MinceR: How is the elected government that has now been overthrown, that was backed by Russia, Nazis? | Feb 27 07:38 |
| MinceR | not sure, perhaps by analogy to the hungarian nazi government :> | Feb 27 07:39 |
| msb | How was the hungarian govt nazis? | Feb 27 07:39 |
| MinceR | they're nationalists and they follow the same methods as the earlier "socialist" dictatorship, so they're national socialists, therefore nazis | Feb 27 07:40 |
| msb | It's wrong to use the term "nazi" to mean "authoritarian". | Feb 27 07:40 |
| MinceR | they also seem to fit the "third way" wikipedia connects with nazis | Feb 27 07:40 |
| msb | The nazis were not socialists. | Feb 27 07:40 |
| msb | They used that word in their name to deceive people. | Feb 27 07:40 |
| MinceR | same with the commies | Feb 27 07:40 |
| MinceR | the commies never wanted the people to have power, control or freedom | Feb 27 07:41 |
| MinceR | they never wanted to reduce the differences in wealth | Feb 27 07:41 |
| msb | Some did and some didn't. | Feb 27 07:41 |
| MinceR | they just wanted to have it all for themselves | Feb 27 07:41 |
| MinceR | and the ones that didn't were few and were sidelined or murdered | Feb 27 07:41 |
| msb | How about Ho Chi Minh? | Feb 27 07:42 |
| MinceR | dunno | Feb 27 07:42 |
| msb | Nazis serve corporations and wealthy people. | Feb 27 07:43 |
| MinceR | in all authoritarian governments, the wealth concentrates in a small group | Feb 27 07:43 |
| MinceR | it hardly matters if they deny it or not and what they call it | Feb 27 07:43 |
| msb | Stalinist Communists were authoritarian, but did not serve corporations. | Feb 27 07:43 |
| MinceR | like when commies claim that everything belongs to the people by which they mean that everything belongs to the state which they own | Feb 27 07:44 |
| msb | There are certainly socialist governments that are not authoritarian. | Feb 27 07:44 |
| MinceR | well, our commie dictatorship was authoritarian | Feb 27 07:44 |
| msb | in Hungary? | Feb 27 07:44 |
| MinceR | and our nazi dictatorships were/are authoritarian as well | Feb 27 07:44 |
| MinceR | yup | Feb 27 07:44 |
| msb | But that doesn't mean they are/were the same. | Feb 27 07:44 |
| MinceR | and most of the fidesz leaders come from mszmp, the commie state party | Feb 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | yeah, the colors and symbols are different | Feb 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | and everybody claims they're different | Feb 27 07:45 |
| msb | The politics and allies are different. | Feb 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | because being oppressed with different colors, symbols and words is just so great | Feb 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | allies change all the time | Feb 27 07:45 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if the politics really are different | Feb 27 07:45 |
| msb | For example, the socialist govt of Afghanistan was muc better for people than the Taliban, which was installed by the US via the mujanhideen, aka al-qaeda. | Feb 27 07:46 |
| msb | For example, the socialist govt of Afghanistan was much better for people than the Taliban, which was installed by the US via the mujahideen, aka al-qaeda. | Feb 27 07:47 |
| msb | The socialist govt of Nicaragua has been reelected. | Feb 27 07:47 |
| msb | What is fidesz? | Feb 27 07:48 |
| MinceR | one of the hungarian fundie nazi parties | Feb 27 07:48 |
| MinceR | the one that currently owns the country | Feb 27 07:48 |
| msb | Not good. | Feb 27 07:48 |
| MinceR | it has a vestigial ally called kdnp, who were always christian in name and had the ideology fidesz hid before | Feb 27 07:49 |
| MinceR | and there's jobbik, which many people believe is different, even though their only problem is that they're not in the velvet seats. | Feb 27 07:49 |
| msb | Hopefully you are not there anymore? | Feb 27 07:50 |
| MinceR | fidesz and kdnp are also members of the "european people's party" who still haven't kicked them out yet | Feb 27 07:50 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, i'm still here but i'm planning to leave | Feb 27 07:50 |
| msb | I can't suggest that you come to the US, because our govt has made preparations for a total fascist takeover. | Feb 27 07:51 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Feb 27 07:52 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, the whole planet seems to be going to shit | Feb 27 07:52 |
| MinceR | even countries i thought were doing all right are doing some horrible things | Feb 27 07:52 |
| msb | I think Russia is the best hope we have, even though Putin is afraid of Pussy. | Feb 27 07:53 |
| MinceR | nope | Feb 27 07:53 |
| MinceR | russia is authoritarian and fundamentalist | Feb 27 07:53 |
| msb | But not nazi. | Feb 27 07:53 |
| MinceR | they locked pussy riot up because they dared insult the cult that russia loves so much now | Feb 27 07:53 |
| msb | They chased out the oligarchs. | Feb 27 07:53 |
| MinceR | are you sure? | Feb 27 07:53 |
| MinceR | i doubt putin is running the show all by himself | Feb 27 07:54 |
| MinceR | hungary has its oligarchs too | Feb 27 07:54 |
| msb | The russians certainly got rid of some of them. They went to Israel. | Feb 27 07:54 |
| MinceR | getting rid of the oligarchs of the opposition is not "getting rid of the oligarchs" | Feb 27 07:55 |
| MinceR | it's a power grab. | Feb 27 07:55 |
| MinceR | trying to paint it in a good light is like when hungarian commies claim that when the russians took over from the germans, it was "liberation" | Feb 27 07:55 |
| msb | Oligarchs is the term for ultrawealthy capitalists. | Feb 27 07:55 |
| MinceR | when it was merely one master taking the slaves away from the other | Feb 27 07:55 |
| MinceR | yes, so? | Feb 27 07:55 |
| msb | They were controlling big industries and taking the profits that should have gone to the people or at least to the govt. | Feb 27 07:56 |
| msb | Not everything in the world happens the way it did in Hungary. | Feb 27 07:57 |
| MinceR | do you really believe that someone who owns most of a country can be not wealthy? | Feb 27 07:57 |
| msb | By definition they are, but who are you talking about, Putin? | Feb 27 07:57 |
| MinceR | putin and his pals | Feb 27 07:58 |
| MinceR | for example | Feb 27 07:58 |
| MinceR | also, orban and his pals | Feb 27 07:58 |
| MinceR | kadar and his fellow commies | Feb 27 07:58 |
| msb | They are the govt, and control the country, but they don't own it. | Feb 27 07:58 |
| MinceR | how so? | Feb 27 07:58 |
| msb | Isn't Kadar long dead? | Feb 27 07:58 |
| MinceR | yes he is | Feb 27 07:58 |
| MinceR | his legacy remains | Feb 27 07:58 |
| MinceR | and some of his buddies do too | Feb 27 07:59 |
| MinceR | and hungarian idiots idolize him | Feb 27 07:59 |
| msb | US idiots idolize Obama because he's black and "Democratic" Party, even though he is a fascist. | Feb 27 08:00 |
| msb | Who is/was Orban? | Feb 27 08:00 |
| MinceR | former secretary of the communist youth organisation, KISZ; currently president of fidesz | Feb 27 08:01 |
| MinceR | and dictator of hungary | Feb 27 08:01 |
| msb | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n | Feb 27 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Viktor Orbán - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gpk4r ] | Feb 27 08:02 | |
| msb | Wiki couldn't even find a picture of him smiling. | Feb 27 08:03 |
| MinceR | he doesn't deserve one | Feb 27 08:03 |
| msb | People are pretty happy in socialist Cuba and Nicaragua, and socialist Vietnam seems to be improving -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam | Feb 27 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Feb 27 08:06 | |
| MinceR | who says so, their government? | Feb 27 08:07 |
| MinceR | and if you love cuba so much, why don't you move there? | Feb 27 08:07 |
| msb | There have been various movies made in Cuba by Americans. | Feb 27 08:07 |
| MinceR | after all, you won't mind if the government doesn't allow you to have an internet connection | Feb 27 08:07 |
| MinceR | apparently that doesn't matter to commies | Feb 27 08:07 |
| msb | Cuba is in great danger from the US govt. That's why it is somewhat authoritarian. | Feb 27 08:08 |
| msb | Being able to share things like farm tractors is a great advantage. Cuba also has very good health care. | Feb 27 08:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's a great excuse to live in oppression | Feb 27 08:09 |
| msb | The US has dropped viruses and insect pests on Cuba from airplanes. | Feb 27 08:09 |
| msb | And financed anti-govt political parties. | Feb 27 08:10 |
| msb | And of course it maintains an embargo in which no company that deals with Cuba can do business with the US. Extremely evil. | Feb 27 08:10 |
| msb | The US govt is run by ultra-wealthy psychopaths. Its foreign policy has always been to destroy socialism everywhere, no matter how democratic it is. | Feb 27 08:11 |
| msb | Socialism is bad for the profits of the ultrawealthy that run the US govt. | Feb 27 08:12 |
| msb | US ultrawealthy businessmen financed Hitler. http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis | Feb 27 08:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Feb 27 08:13 | |
| msb | They did it so he would murder all the socialists and labor union leaders in Europe. | Feb 27 08:14 |
| msb | Pure capitalism seems like a good idea when people visualize it being used in a small town. But when the wealthy get enough money to control the govt, and are psychopaths who are willing to murder people by the millions to increase their profits, it goes very bad. | Feb 27 08:16 |
| msb | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqs7GJ0jdY | Feb 27 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Psychopathy in Politics and Finance - Stefan Verstappen on GRTV - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/g85hq ] | Feb 27 08:17 | |
| MinceR | when two sides are opposed, one side being evil doesn't automatically mean that the other one isn't as evil | Feb 27 08:17 |
| MinceR | hungarians can't understand this either. | Feb 27 08:17 |
| msb | True. But not all governments are like in Hungary and like Stalin. | Feb 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3694301 | Feb 27 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Big data, cloud b... | Feb 27 08:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | "The spies know what works and want freedom for themselves." | Feb 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3693986 | Feb 27 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Feb 27 08:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | "It takes strength, incredible control and training but it's not a sport." | Feb 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3693963 | Feb 27 08:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Feb 27 08:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I'm partial to the signs threatening to serve children espresso and give them a puppy." | Feb 27 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | "Haha, Will is right." | Feb 27 08:20 |
| msb | Human facial expression was not evolved to withstand high-speed strobe photography. | Feb 27 08:25 |
| msb | People can look very weird. And yes, ballet dancers have tits. | Feb 27 08:27 |
| msb | Or ice skaters, whatever. | Feb 27 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | This winter is dragging on... | Feb 27 08:28 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen it this cold at this point. | Feb 27 08:28 |
| msb | It's been temperate in the San Francisco area, and now it's raining a little. | Feb 27 08:29 |
| msb | DaemonFC: Don;t worry. When the methane clathrate under the polar oceans finishes melting an vaporizing, it'll be plenty warm. | Feb 27 08:30 |
| msb | Of course the current coasts may be submerged. | Feb 27 08:30 |
| msb | Hopefully Earth will not get as hot as Venus, since we're farther from the Sun. | Feb 27 08:31 |
| msb | Some life should survive, along with the air-conditioning industry. | Feb 27 08:33 |
| DaemonFC | The EPA suggests that Indiana's climate will be more like Missouri's is now by 2050. | Feb 27 08:35 |
| DaemonFC | And more like Louisiana's by 2070. | Feb 27 08:35 |
| msb | Methane is about 23x as effective a greenhouse gas as CO2. The more that's released, the hotter it gets, causing more to melt and release. It's literally exponential. I doubt that the EPA is taking that into account. | Feb 27 08:38 |
| msb | DaemonFC: Well, you should start learning French and enjoying Zydeco music! | Feb 27 08:39 |
| msb | Dig a pond and get into the shrimp farming industry early! | Feb 27 08:40 |
| msb | I love this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fs12_-ihPY | Feb 27 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Balfa Brothers - Parlez Nous A Boire - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gpkdz ] | Feb 27 08:42 | |
| msb | A bit of the lyrics here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMzysRahEXs Southern Comfort is a great movie. | Feb 27 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Parlez-nous à boire - Balfa brothers & Marc Savoy - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gpkef ] | Feb 27 08:47 | |
| DaemonFC | msb: So Florida will be underwater. That's bad. They'll move further north. Some of them may end up in Indiana. :P | Feb 27 08:51 |
| msb | Agghh! | Feb 27 08:52 |
| msb | Invest in the suntan lotion industry. And move to Canada. | Feb 27 08:54 |
| msb | Half a century ago my family had a short vacation in Florida. It was horribly hot there. Being submerged would be a blessing. | Feb 27 08:57 |
| msb | In the TV series (Star Trek) Enterprise, aliens burned a 10 mile wide swathe across Florida, just to test their planet-kller weapon. It's a great show, lasted several years. | Feb 27 08:59 |
| msb | Hah! Castle did Scientology! S06E16 | Feb 27 09:27 |
| DaemonFC | msb: It turns out that the Hubbert Curve was wrong. | Feb 27 09:31 |
| DaemonFC | It didn't anticipate enhanced recovery and unconventional oil. | Feb 27 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like supply isn't going to be the problem. | Feb 27 09:32 |
| DaemonFC | We have enough to fry ourselves many times over. :) | Feb 27 09:32 |
| msb | Burning it and making CO2 is going to be the problem. | Feb 27 09:32 |
| msb | yep | Feb 27 09:33 |
| msb | Also there's plenty of coal, which can be converted to oil, or burned as is. Same CO2. | Feb 27 09:34 |
| msb | We should switch to failsafe fission reactors, which can be built -- they just cost more. | Feb 27 09:34 |
| msb | And develop cold fusion. | Feb 27 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | I used recycled motor oil in my car for a long time. | Feb 27 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | The price of other oil was rising while the price for recycled was staying under $1 per quart. | Feb 27 09:35 |
| msb | Doesn't it have metal particles in it, or degenerated molecules that don't lube as well? | Feb 27 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | Now they've greenwashed recycled oil and the price is basically the same. :P | Feb 27 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | No. | Feb 27 09:36 |
| msb | If you had a steam car you could burn it -- no problem. | Feb 27 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | They filter it out and add a new detergent package. | Feb 27 09:36 |
| msb | Cool! | Feb 27 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | I was getting it for as little as 78 cents per quart at one point. | Feb 27 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://green.autoblog.com/2011/03/16/valvoline-nextgen-recycled-motor-oil/ | Feb 27 09:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-green.autoblog.com | Valvoline introduces NextGen recycled motor oil; now, who wants it? [ http://ur1.ca/gpkqr ] | Feb 27 09:37 | |
| DaemonFC | That was before the major brands started greenwashing it. | Feb 27 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | Now it's $3.50-$4 a quart. :P | Feb 27 09:38 |
| msb | Better that it's re-used in cars than spread on crops, like heavy-metal sewer sludge, or added to the water supply, like fluoride waste from aluminum and uranium manufacturing. | Feb 27 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | msb: The store brand fluids aren't that much cheaper than the name brands. | Feb 27 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | If you use Walmart's brand of extended life antifreeze, you only save like $1 a bottle. | Feb 27 09:41 |
| DaemonFC | So I just use the Prestone brand. Probably the same stuff either way... | Feb 27 09:41 |
| msb | Well, at least consider yourself lucky that you're not living in Hungary. | Feb 27 09:41 |
| msb | Do not sap or impurify your precious automotive fluids! | Feb 27 09:45 |
| DaemonFC | msb: I've always been pretty frugal about most things. | Feb 27 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | I heckle Comcast every six months. | Feb 27 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | I shop at thrift stores for clothes. | Feb 27 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | I fill my freezer with stuff that was on closeout at the supermarket. :P | Feb 27 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | Pennies scream as they get pinched around here. :) | Feb 27 10:02 |
| msb | Good for you! | Feb 27 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | I wanted a second TV for my bedroom so I could play my video games and DVDs on it. | Feb 27 10:03 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438973840061124608 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438974012103098368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438974227350568961 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438975921224429568 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438976225353404416 | Feb 27 10:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux-based operating system that hooks into Microsoft APIs and is distributed by a Microsoft partner? Think #novell and not just #nokia | Feb 27 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The FSFE's founder was right when he called the Microsoft-Nokia deal another #Microsoft - #Novell deal. #Nokia too gives patents to trolls. | Feb 27 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Nokia 'Android': for Microsoft "intellectual property peace of mind" - wait till the patent-stacking starts against more Android players | Feb 27 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Weston Work Still Ongoing For A Fullscreen Shell Protocol http://t.co/itKCI7Y698 #wayland #weston #linux #graphics | Feb 27 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Weston Work Still Ongoing For A Fullscreen Shell Protocol | Feb 27 10:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Nothing as shocking as finding that tablet got switched on by accident and for 10 minutes of walking made a complete mess of my TODO list | Feb 27 10:03 | |
| DaemonFC | So instead of buying a new one, I got on Craigslist and found a guy that was giving away a perfectly good 50" SDTV. | Feb 27 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | Then I found a DTV converter for $5 at a garage sale. | Feb 27 10:03 |
| *FYI (559d90ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.157.144.255) has joined #techrights | Feb 27 10:09 | |
| FYI | There is some development the UK - the Cabinet Office asked opinions to asses some standards | Feb 27 10:10 |
| FYI | http://standards.data.gov.uk/challenge/viewing-government-documents | Feb 27 10:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standards.data.gov.uk | Viewing government documents | Standards Hub [ http://ur1.ca/gpky9 ] | Feb 27 10:10 | |
| FYI | http://standards.data.gov.uk/challenge/sharing-or-collaborating-government-documents | Feb 27 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standards.data.gov.uk | Sharing or collaborating with government documents | Standards Hub [ http://ur1.ca/gpkya ] | Feb 27 10:11 | |
| FYI | First challenge was about viewing government documents. | Feb 27 10:11 |
| FYI | Second clallenge was about editing government documents | Feb 27 10:12 |
| FYI | The commenting period is now over. | Feb 27 10:12 |
| FYI | http://standards.data.gov.uk/phases-selection-approach | Feb 27 10:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standards.data.gov.uk | Phases in the selection approach | Standards Hub [ http://ur1.ca/gpkyv ] | Feb 27 10:13 | |
| FYI | There is five phases for selecting a standard. | Feb 27 10:13 |
| FYI | The Cabinet office asked opinios about ODF - should it the only document format (internally) for document editing? | Feb 27 10:15 |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, someone asked which cat litter works best. | Feb 27 10:18 |
| DaemonFC | My cat is weird. He loves the cheap stuff, but I tried to get the more expensive stuff once because it has less dust, and he didn't like that at all. | Feb 27 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | FYI: yeah | Feb 27 10:21 |
| schestowitz__ | I have been debating it with Cabinet Office by email | Feb 27 10:21 |
| schestowitz__ | I will publish more about it soon | Feb 27 10:21 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695367 | Feb 27 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Neocons and the U... | Feb 27 10:23 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Thanks for sharing, this has been scrubbed from the US media almost entirely. John McCain and Victoria Neuland with a Neo-Nazi, classic stuff. Reminds me of the Hussein/Rumsfeld photo" | Feb 27 10:23 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438982927867981824 | Feb 27 10:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server Receives Yet Another Kernel Update http://t.co/mcw2kBctVW #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Feb 27 10:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server Receives Yet Another Kernel Update | Feb 27 10:39 | |
| MinceR | what's the reaction to the recent revelation that the monarch of the UK abuses her veto privileges? | Feb 27 10:50 |
| MinceR | geekings | Feb 27 10:51 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Prezbyter/status/438991364554899456 | Feb 27 10:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Prezbyter: @schestowitz Protecting the community from everyone but them. Law as crime. | Feb 27 10:59 | |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: at dinner last night I shared this with a friend | Feb 27 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | he hadn't even heard abouyt it | Feb 27 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | and he hardly believed it | Feb 27 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | till I told him | Feb 27 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | My wife knew also, but this man is a retired professor | Feb 27 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | and he didn't know | Feb 27 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | he was part of Imperial Britian | Feb 27 11:00 |
| MinceR | ic | Feb 27 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | In India | Feb 27 11:10 |
| schestowitz__ | and his father perhaps a spy, he never really shared much info about it | Feb 27 11:10 |
| schestowitz__ | then there's the knowledge about slavery and torture in Kenya, the doping of China under British control... | Feb 27 11:11 |
| schestowitz__ | BUT | Feb 27 11:11 |
| schestowitz__ | When it comes to the Queen having power he remains in denial | Feb 27 11:11 |
| schestowitz__ | He says Monarchy is long gone - and that's how the conversation started at this sushi batr | Feb 27 11:12 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438988512571179008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438989332322746368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438990093265932288 | Feb 27 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA reform advocates oppose White House proposal to hand data to #FBI http://t.co/0Kp6Ba0rRp stop collection altogether | Feb 27 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | NSA reform advocates oppose White House proposal to hand data to FBI | World news | theguardian.com | Feb 27 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Schneier: "Yes, 100 per cent: I'm a target. If the FBI tried to get a warrant on my computer..." http://t.co/3mJ8RbzWiR | Feb 27 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Q&A: Schneier on trust, NSA spying and the end of US internet hegemony • The Register | Feb 27 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "US government...used more National Security Agency surveillance than it disclosed during their court proceedings." http://t.co/KKmThGFwBO | Feb 27 11:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.salon.com | NSA surveillance: A new door to court challenges? - Salon.com | Feb 27 11:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438990381443973120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438991068902989825 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438993881968173057 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438994480172380161 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438995232672456704 | Feb 27 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #LAPD Spies on Millions of Innocent Folks http://t.co/A07s6utqjG the new standard. Guilty until proven dead/joins NSA. | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.laweekly.com | Forget the NSA, the LAPD Spies on Millions of Innocent Folks | News | Los Angeles | Los Angeles News and Events | LA Weekly | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Requests NSA Phone Records Not Be Deleted http://t.co/b113inRztA Hope his voters are happy... #nsa | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.valuewalk.com | Obama Requests NSA Phone Records Not Be Deleted | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Justice Dept: We Need to Keep NSA Call Data ‘Indefinitely’ http://t.co/qsLPXURijK #nsa #usdoj | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.antiwar.com | Justice Dept: We Need to Keep NSA Call Data ‘Indefinitely’ -- News from Antiwar.com | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Richard Clarke: Potential for American ‘police state’ created by NSA http://t.co/ApGunCHoY9 just "potential"? Same in #uk | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtontimes.com | Richard Clarke: Potential for American 'police state' created by NSA - Washington Times | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New assaults on American law -- more shocking revelations about NSA spying http://t.co/0xXLrZ7rpk Fox but Napolitano | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.foxnews.com | New assaults on American law -- more shocking revelations about NSA spying | Fox News | Feb 27 11:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438996675475296256 | Feb 27 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #facebook is truly sick **. Someone we knew just died from a stroke; people other than the family announce it for wall attention/comments | Feb 27 11:19 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailyfueleconomytip.com/uncategorized/will-switching-to-synthetic-oil-give-you-better-gas-mileage/ | Feb 27 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Feb 27 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailyfueleconomytip.com | Will Switching to Synthetic Oil Give You Better Gas Mileage? | Daily Fuel Economy Tip [ http://ur1.ca/gplgp ] | Feb 27 11:20 | |
| DaemonFC | Another myth that just won't die. | Feb 27 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | In reality, there's very little difference between an ILSAC GF-5 rated conventional oil and a synthetic. | Feb 27 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | You will not get better gas mileage with synthetic. | Feb 27 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | The difference is slightly reduced engine wear, less sludge buildup, and the possibility of going more miles without an oil change. | Feb 27 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | But the difference in engine wear and sludge is not significant. | Feb 27 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | Most gas saving tips are just wrong. | Feb 27 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | Aggressive driving and idling are the biggest gas wasters. | Feb 27 11:23 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438997421411274753 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438997882717614080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438998430292410369 | Feb 27 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Drones On: The Slaughter of Pakistani Civilians http://t.co/ZuJH5ML9Km http://t.co/eNMgsTYjjp #droNSA | Feb 27 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalresearch.ca | Obama Drones On: The Slaughter of Pakistani Civilians | Global Research | Feb 27 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> host.madison.com | Drone strikes on foreign soil are difficult to justify : Daily-cardinal | Feb 27 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Promoter of panic over "terrorism" admits that its terrorisation of the population was all in vain again http://t.co/79lRE5AAPu | Feb 27 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> edition.cnn.com | Opinion: Forecasts of terrorist apocalypse? Never mind - CNN.com | Feb 27 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Military #propaganda on US radio courtesy of Murdoch's Fox 'news' http://t.co/ZCS2I1mx35 | Feb 27 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> siouxcityjournal.com | LETTER: Thoughts about proposed cuts to defense | Feb 27 11:31 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438998774892208128 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438999213226328064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438999349935484928 | Feb 27 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Iraq War, Afghanistan War, Gitmo and drones [...] terrorist organizations using these as propaganda to recruit" http://t.co/ZCS2I1mx35 | Feb 27 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Yesterday #NBC was conflating drones with Bin Laden in panic headline. Today: "Stealth Search: Embattled Al Qaeda Hunts for a New Bin Laden" | Feb 27 11:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The corporate media loves war. Corporations don't send troops to the battle, they only send merchandise to battles. | Feb 27 11:31 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: http://beta.slashdot.org/story/198685 | Feb 27 11:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beta.slashdot.org | IE Vulnerability Exposing Banking Logins, Spreading Rapidly - Slashdot | Feb 27 11:35 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.itworld.com/security/406979/ie-zero-day-exploit-being-used-widespread-attacks | Feb 27 11:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | IE zero-day exploit being used in widespread attacks | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gplkm ] | Feb 27 11:35 | |
| msb | Please remember! The entire War of Terror -- the murder by the U.S. of 2,000,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq, the spying by the NSA, the destruction by the US of Libya the nation with the highest standard of living in Africa, the drone attacks that continue -- all of it is based on the 9/11 attack, and this video proves that the Twin Towers were blown up by implanted explosives. Nothing else could have blown the multi-ton girders | Feb 27 11:41 |
| msb | sideways at up to 75mph. Only a horizontal force can accelerate objects horizontally. Newton's Second Law of Motion F=ma is a vector equation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc | Feb 27 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | North Tower Exploding by David Chandler - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gpllt ] | Feb 27 11:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | Mny dad has just been venting lyracially at the US | Feb 27 11:42 |
| schestowitz__ | and those who sympathise with its oreign affairs | Feb 27 11:42 |
| schestowitz__ | e.g. in Ukraine | Feb 27 11:42 |
| msb | This is a very good 13 minute documentary by Russia Today on the 9/11 research, comparing 9/11 to Operation Gladio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vka7Da6e9LY&feature=share | Feb 27 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Truthseeker: 9/11 & Operation Gladio (E23) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gplmx ] | Feb 27 11:49 | |
| msb | The same false-flag terror. | Feb 27 11:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439002817614086144 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439003578003619840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439004076039503873 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439004500360458240 | Feb 27 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #CIA tech chief loves wearable surveillance and 'cloud' #surveillance http://t.co/9BdmWw6vQC what he likes we should all avoid | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> venturebeat.com | Former CIA tech chief is on the prowl for big data & wearables startups (exclusive) | VentureBeat | Security | by Christina Farr | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Lisa Hajjar talks about torture in Guantanamo Bay http://t.co/Hg6ILiYIS4 become a "target", get "probed". #torture #suspicion #dissent | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thecollegianur.com | Lisa Hajjar talks about torture in Guantanamo Bay | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Rove gets platform from Murdoch http://t.co/iWQtIozmg4 http://t.co/KQq5QzQnyS | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> online.wsj.com | Karl Rove: The Endless Benghazi Coverup - WSJ.com | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsmax.com | Karl Rove: House Intelligence Committee Must Press for Answers on Benghazi | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "U.S. has ties to Nazi and fascist protesters in Ukraine" http://t.co/mbNLHEWCHV ultrwealthy in US supported Nazi party in 1930s | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.opednews.com | Article: Is the Rebellion in Ukraine Really Aimed at Creating a National Socialist State? | OpEdNews | Feb 27 11:51 | |
| msb | This is a superb 5 minute video on the absurdity of the govt claims about 9/11 and about the huge coverup afterward, by James Corbett, who works with CRG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98&feature=share | Feb 27 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gplpo ] | Feb 27 11:58 | |
| schestowitz__ | Corbett is interesting, but he's not the face of CRG | Feb 27 12:02 |
| schestowitz__ | And his opinions on things cannot be extrapolated to be seen as representing CRG | Feb 27 12:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Forums get discredited this way, among other ways | Feb 27 12:03 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439007613569998848 | Feb 27 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Erosion of Rights: Latest Headlines http://t.co/fAtpQ9P9X2 #drones #surveillance - making "legal" what was illegal in analogue world | Feb 27 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Erosion of Rights: Latest Headlines | Techrights | Feb 27 12:04 | |
| msb | I only said he works with CRG. And his video is full of facts. | Feb 27 12:05 |
| msb | The youtube page has a link to this page on Corbett's site, where he gives a transcript and copious references for the facts in the video: http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/ | Feb 27 12:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.corbettreport.com | The Corbett Report | 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory [ http://ur1.ca/gplrs ] | Feb 27 12:08 | |
| DaemonFC | http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/10/news/companies/soda-sales-slump/ | Feb 27 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-money.cnn.com | Soda sales are losing their fizz - Dec. 10, 2013 [ http://ur1.ca/gplt4 ] | Feb 27 12:16 | |
| DaemonFC | I pretty much stopped drinking soda and freed up about $50-60 a month. I also feel much better. Even though the soda was diet soda, I started losing weight around the same time that I stopped. Some studies have shown that people who drink diet soda instead of water are 12.8 pounds heavier on average, so *something* about diet soda is causing people to pack on pounds, even though it has no sugar. | Feb 27 12:16 |
| Sosumi | diet soda = aspartame/sucralose soda | Feb 27 12:19 |
| Sosumi | just as bad if not worse than normal soda | Feb 27 12:19 |
| MinceR | not necessarily those sweeteners | Feb 27 12:26 |
| MinceR | also, what's "just as bad" about them? | Feb 27 12:26 |
| MinceR | they're differently bad :> | Feb 27 12:26 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439014896899223552 | Feb 27 12:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Journalists Should Stop Spreading Speculations That #Microsoft Makes Billions From #Android http://t.co/EHMsShIiuW that includes @sjvn | Feb 27 12:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Journalists Should Stop Spreading Baseless Speculations That Microsoft Makes Billions From Android | Techrights | Feb 27 12:34 | |
| Sosumi | more problems with the trashcan | Feb 27 13:01 |
| Sosumi | http://michaelkammes.com/apple/how-i-killed-the-new-mac-pro/ | Feb 27 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelkammes.com | How I killed the new Mac Pro | Michael Kammes (.com) [ http://ur1.ca/gpm4b ] | Feb 27 13:01 | |
| Sosumi | and no actual fixes in sight | Feb 27 13:01 |
| Sosumi | even the last released thunderbolt fixm didn't fix anything | Feb 27 13:01 |
| Sosumi | which is awesome | Feb 27 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 27 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | Actually, there's a wonderful gay pride parade in Tel Aviv every so often, and a ton of gay bars. | Feb 27 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | Some of these Fundie hacks should go check it out. They'll be horrified. It'll be awesome. | Feb 27 13:27 |
| MinceR | how would that affect the usa-israel love affair? | Feb 27 13:29 |
| DaemonFC | They NEVER talk about the fact that Israel is more progressive about gay rights than most of the US states are. | Feb 27 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | They don't really want to know that, so the ones that know it don't talk about it. | Feb 27 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | "Soft drink makers are prepared. Pepsico, for example, owns water brands SoBe Lifewater and Propel, while Coca-Cola owns Dasani, Vitamin Water and Smart Water." | Feb 27 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | Brand of water..... | Feb 27 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | I still can't fucking believe that. | Feb 27 13:41 |
| MinceR | why? | Feb 27 13:41 |
| DaemonFC | People paying $1-2 per bottle for water. | Feb 27 13:41 |
| MinceR | for example, mineral water from different sources can have different contents and different taste | Feb 27 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | It comes out of every tap, basically free. | Feb 27 13:42 |
| MinceR | and they usually have different brands | Feb 27 13:42 |
| MinceR | spring water is probably similar (though with lower mineral content) | Feb 27 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | People say they don't trust that tap water is safe, so they buy tap water that some company put in plastic bottles and drink that instead. | Feb 27 13:43 |
| MinceR | well, if their heuristic is that "any tap water is bad" then this is disingenuous :> | Feb 27 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: We get a tap water quality report every year. | Feb 27 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | The biggest problem with the water where I am at is volatile organic compounds. | Feb 27 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | "bad taste" | Feb 27 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | but a cheap carbon filter takes care of that. | Feb 27 13:46 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | They're like $10 and they filter over 100 gallons | Feb 27 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | There's more expensive filters that remove other things. | Feb 27 13:49 |
| DaemonFC | But if those things are not in your water, then you're just wasting your money. | Feb 27 13:49 |
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| msb | Big problem with water if fluoride, if you are living in a red area in this map https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Fluoridated-water-extent-world.svg | Feb 27 15:02 |
| MinceR | http://arielzellman.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/the-seven-rules-of-nationalism/ | Feb 27 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arielzellman.wordpress.com | The Seven Rules of Nationalism | Ariel Zellman [ http://ur1.ca/gpmza ] | Feb 27 15:05 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3683670 | Feb 27 15:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #linux #android f... | Feb 27 15:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I didn't say it is 100% safe ... But I think I'll use my openMoko again :)" | Feb 27 15:12 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695946 | Feb 27 15:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #facebook is trul... | Feb 27 15:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | "It's not facebook, but people who are using it right?" | Feb 27 15:12 |
| schestowitz__ | "@Berta - Systems can encourage unhealthy behaviour in individuals. Facebook is designed and promoted in such a way that encourages people to vie for attention by making public more and more information about themselves and anyone else they know. users are rewarded game-style with public "scores" (likes, followers etc) to encourage them to keep collecting and giving more information. Yes, the users are playing the game, but the game | Feb 27 15:12 |
| schestowitz__ | designer is the one who creates the rules of the game to encourage how user interaction will occur." | Feb 27 15:12 |
| schestowitz__ | "So you want to say that if someone stabbed someone with the knife, so this is a knife's producer fault?" | Feb 27 15:12 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 15:13 |
| schestowitz__ | You're using a false dichotomy (a logical fallacy). Arguing that the system designers have influence is not the same as arguing that individuals should bare no responsibility at all. It is arguing only that individuals are not the only ones responsible, and thus making them so gives a free pass to the others involved. Responsibility needs to be shared among all parties that made decisions influencing the final result. | Feb 27 15:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Or to use your example: If the knife manufacturer sold the knife outside divorce courts in packaging explaining how easy and satisfying it was to use the knife to stab someone with instructions included inside on how and where to stab people for maximum harm then I'd be more inclined to give them more culpability than if they sold the knife in a kitchen ship surrounded by recipe books extolling the joys of cooking. Same product. Two | Feb 27 15:13 |
| schestowitz__ | different systems encouraging different behaviour. | Feb 27 15:13 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 15:13 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | And you are giving an example of a victim mentality - blaming others for a situation that one has created oneself or significantly contributed to. Failing or being unwilling to take responsibility for one's own actions or actions to which one has contributed or for taking action to ameliorate the situation. | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | In this context, instead of saying "Facebook is sick", we should say "Twitter is insane", "Tor is sick" or in general "Internet is sick". | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | Taking your example, Tor has been advertised and even prooved as a great tool to selling drugs, child ponrnography and hiring hitmans. Tor must be sick. Darknet must be sick. | Feb 27 15:14 |
| msb | Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland, makes the person docile and stupid. A functioning pineal makes DMT, melatonin, and other hormones. | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | it there was no FB people would not do this. As for Twitter. it's not a connection among family and friends but usually among people with common interest, so it's about ideas and events, not people | Feb 27 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695963 | Feb 27 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Promoter of panic... | Feb 27 15:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Why didn't anyone predict another conflict on Russia's borders? Beijing 2008 - Georgia. Sochi 2014 - Ukraine." | Feb 27 15:15 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695920 | Feb 27 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Richard Clarke: P... | Feb 27 15:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | "As planned." | Feb 27 15:15 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695848 | Feb 27 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Obama Requests NS... | Feb 27 15:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I doubt many of them will ever even hear about this." | Feb 27 15:16 |
| schestowitz__ | I think that many will | Feb 27 15:16 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3696224 | Feb 27 15:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Journalists Shoul... | Feb 27 15:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Are you just upset there is a non-sourcable number attached? I mean, there is no denying they make some amount of money from patent agreements with phone manufacturers who make Android phones. How much? Only M$ and the respecitve parties knowledgable to such secret agreements really know." | Feb 27 15:17 |
| schestowitz__ | They don't. It's like the EULA game. Microsoft NDAs to keep them unaware of other companies' terms. | Feb 27 15:17 |
| msb | Russia is the only effective counter to US international fascist attacks. | Feb 27 15:17 |
| msb | So US will always attack nations around Russia. | Feb 27 15:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I mean, OEM agreements, not EULAs actually. It's in Comes vs Microsoft. | Feb 27 15:18 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689948 | Feb 27 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #prism exempt #wh... | Feb 27 15:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Xabber is an XMPP client, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't do encrypted communications (eg zrtp or OTR), which would strike it off the list as per the authors requirements." | Feb 27 15:18 |
| msb | Fluoride, mercury, and aluminum are major neurotoxins, and they are variously put into our water, food and air. | Feb 27 15:23 |
| msb | Russia is the only effective counter to US international fascist attacks. pace MinceR | Feb 27 15:27 |
| MinceR | it's not a counter to any sort of fascist attack | Feb 27 15:28 |
| MinceR | fascist attacks are no counter to each other. | Feb 27 15:28 |
| MinceR | but if you love them so much, why don't you move russia? | Feb 27 15:28 |
| MinceR | just be careful not to offend their beloved cult or you might end up in prison :> | Feb 27 15:28 |
| msb | MinceR: you are still using "fascist" to mean "authoritarian". Distorting the meaning of words/concepts causes great difficulties in communication. | Feb 27 15:29 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Feb 27 15:30 |
| MinceR | it is one accepted meaning if "fascist" | Feb 27 15:30 |
| MinceR | s/if/of/ | Feb 27 15:30 |
| msb | Accepted only by people who don't mind distorting and ruining concepts. | Feb 27 15:30 |
| MinceR | no true scotsman | Feb 27 15:30 |
| msb | ??? | Feb 27 15:31 |
| msb | MinceR: Anyhow, the day may come when I will regret not moving to Russia, or Cuba as you previously told me to. | Feb 27 15:32 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Feb 27 15:33 |
| MinceR | you might also want to consider north korea | Feb 27 15:33 |
| MinceR | it's a commie wonderland | Feb 27 15:33 |
| MinceR | you'll just have to learn to like the taste of tree bark! | Feb 27 15:34 |
| msb | MinceR: Perhaps you should move to the US. You would be at home with our Republican Party. | Feb 27 15:34 |
| MinceR | not really | Feb 27 15:34 |
| MinceR | i'm not the one arguing in favor of authoritarianism here :> | Feb 27 15:35 |
| msb | They hate "commies". | Feb 27 15:35 |
| msb | I'm not either. | Feb 27 15:35 |
| MinceR | yeah, and they also fail to see that commies, nazis and fascists are mostly the same. | Feb 27 15:35 |
| msb | Hitler attacked the USSR, killing some 20 million people. | Feb 27 15:36 |
| MinceR | somehow all that waste of ink, breath and bits comes down to centralized control of everything. | Feb 27 15:36 |
| MinceR | both nazi germany and commie russia killed massive amounts of their own people and massive amounts of other people | Feb 27 15:37 |
| msb | The Nazis were 75% financed by wealthy US businessmen. | Feb 27 15:37 |
| MinceR | the commies were less proud of it, though | Feb 27 15:37 |
| MinceR | some of they tried to hide | Feb 27 15:37 |
| MinceR | hardly matters from the viewpoint of the ones who were killed, though | Feb 27 15:37 |
| MinceR | s/some of/some of it/ | Feb 27 15:37 |
| msb | The Bolsheviks were attacked by many different capitalist nations immediately after the revolution, before they had killed anybody. | Feb 27 15:38 |
| msb | Why, MinceR? | Feb 27 15:38 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Feb 27 15:38 |
| MinceR | does this somehow explain the holodomor? | Feb 27 15:38 |
| msb | The attackers murdered millions. | Feb 27 15:38 |
| MinceR | does this make the occupation of hungary for decades just? | Feb 27 15:39 |
| msb | Not at all. | Feb 27 15:39 |
| MinceR | does this make you blind to russian imperialism? | Feb 27 15:39 |
| msb | I don't think Russia is being very imperialistic now. | Feb 27 15:39 |
| MinceR | i think they're being very imperialistic indeed | Feb 27 15:39 |
| msb | How? | Feb 27 15:40 |
| MinceR | they meddle in the affairs of supposedly independent states | Feb 27 15:40 |
| msb | Where? | Feb 27 15:40 |
| MinceR | all over in the former eastern bloc | Feb 27 15:40 |
| MinceR | now in ukraine, for example | Feb 27 15:40 |
| msb | Meddling is not nearly as bad as military attacks. | Feb 27 15:40 |
| MinceR | some of the meddling is military attacks. | Feb 27 15:40 |
| msb | Ukraine has been taken over by nazis who are threatening jews, homosexuals, etc. | Feb 27 15:41 |
| MinceR | russia has been taken over by authoritarians who are threatening homosexuals | Feb 27 15:41 |
| MinceR | stalinists were threatening jews | Feb 27 15:41 |
| msb | Yes, Stalin was very evil. | Feb 27 15:42 |
| Sosumi | I remember when the ukranians were greeting their nazi liberators | Feb 27 15:42 |
| Sosumi | only to find out they were much worst | Feb 27 15:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 27 15:42 |
| msb | But his regime was a reaction to decades of attacks by capitalist nations. | Feb 27 15:42 |
| MinceR | "but he punched me first!" | Feb 27 15:42 |
| msb | They attacked because communism/socialism kills the profits of wealthy capitalists. | Feb 27 15:43 |
| MinceR | assuming that it was a reaction (which it almost certainly wasn't), does this make the nature of the reaction just? | Feb 27 15:43 |
| msb | That's why US ultrawealthy financed Hitler. | Feb 27 15:43 |
| MinceR | no, it didn't | Feb 27 15:43 |
| MinceR | communism/socialism killed the profits of the states where it was used. | Feb 27 15:43 |
| MinceR | it made the russian empire fall apart -- but now they're picking up the pieces again. | Feb 27 15:43 |
| msb | Under communism, Russia advanced from horse-and-buggy to ICBMs in a few decades. | Feb 27 15:44 |
| MinceR | also, since the work i do is mental, not menial, i'm by default painted as an enemy by the commies. | Feb 27 15:44 |
| MinceR | yeah, and most of that advancement was either bought or spied | Feb 27 15:45 |
| MinceR | they could never figure out how to make cars that don't suck | Feb 27 15:45 |
| MinceR | or how to make computers at all | Feb 27 15:45 |
| MinceR | the apartment blocks they built are uninhabitable | Feb 27 15:45 |
| msb | MinceR: For someone who dislikes the fascist regime he lives in, you have absorbed much of their anti-socialist ideology. | Feb 27 15:46 |
| MinceR | msb: you're still trapped in the "A is evil therefore B is good" fallacy. | Feb 27 15:46 |
| msb | Not at all. I think that Stalinism was evil. | Feb 27 15:46 |
| MinceR | you'd make a good hungarian | Feb 27 15:46 |
| msb | But democratic socialism is good. Not authoritarian. | Feb 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | also not functioning | Feb 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | free-market democracy works. | Feb 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | (but you still need to work hard to keep the markets free) | Feb 27 15:47 |
| msb | The Republicans would love you, MinceR! You think exactly like them! | Feb 27 15:47 |
| MinceR | of course it's not ideal -- it's merely the least horrible thing humanity has come up with so far | Feb 27 15:48 |
| MinceR | msb: yeah, i love the usian megacorps distorting markets and corrupting states so they won't have to compete | Feb 27 15:48 |
| MinceR | msb: after all, that's what the free market is all about, isn't it? | Feb 27 15:48 |
| msb | MinceR: What about the US attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, murdering two million. Are you OK with that? It's capitalism at work. | Feb 27 15:48 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure what that has to do with capitalism | Feb 27 15:49 |
| MinceR | other than that they might be in part rooted in the military-industrial complex trying to generate more demand for their products | Feb 27 15:49 |
| msb | US capitalists run the govt, and want to control the world to maximize their profits. | Feb 27 15:49 |
| MinceR | which means the US is neither democratic nor free-market. | Feb 27 15:49 |
| msb | That's true to. Murder for profit. | Feb 27 15:50 |
| MinceR | so why try so hard to paint me as a republican? | Feb 27 15:50 |
| msb | Because you say the same things they do. | Feb 27 15:50 |
| MinceR | unlike them, i mean those things. | Feb 27 15:50 |
| MinceR | and i don't say some other things they say. | Feb 27 15:50 |
| MinceR | and those things are important too. | Feb 27 15:50 |
| msb | You ignore the fact that in a society in which money=power rich people control the govt. | Feb 27 15:50 |
| MinceR | you ignore the fact that there is no society where money != power. | Feb 27 15:51 |
| msb | And enough of the rich people are psychopaths that the govt then does mass murder. | Feb 27 15:51 |
| MinceR | try to eliminate money itself and different resources will still work the same in its place. | Feb 27 15:51 |
| MinceR | if you have an authoritarian regime, a small number of crazy evil people do a lot of evil things | Feb 27 15:52 |
| msb | But if you have functioning democracy, functioning news media, a conscious population, and an egalitarian economic system, you can avoid getting an authoritarian regime. | Feb 27 15:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 15:53 |
| MinceR | but there are at least two competing interpretations of what an "egalitarian economic system" is. | Feb 27 15:54 |
| msb | In the US, the wealthy control the news media, and also do various things to keep the voters stupid and unconscious. So democracy can't work. | Feb 27 15:54 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 15:54 |
| MinceR | that's why the system needs to be changed so that democracy will work | Feb 27 15:54 |
| MinceR | the election system needs to stop upholding the two-party system, for example. | Feb 27 15:55 |
| MinceR | and net neutrality must be kept up so that the wealthy won't get to control all of the media. | Feb 27 15:55 |
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| msb | How do you feel about Social Democracy, in which, e.g., the ratio of highest to lowest salary in any company is limited to a factor of 8 or so? | Feb 27 15:56 |
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| MinceR | i'm not sure if such a limit would be healthy, and what it should be | Feb 27 15:56 |
| MinceR | and if it has been tried anywhere | Feb 27 15:56 |
| msb | How do you feel about a tax on wealth, not just income. | Feb 27 15:56 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure i'm comfortable with it, but i could go either way. | Feb 27 15:56 |
| msb | Social Democracy is used in the Scandinavian countries. | Feb 27 15:56 |
| MinceR | which of them have an explicit legal limit on salary differences? | Feb 27 15:57 |
| Sosumi | http://betanews.com/2014/02/26/microsofts-attempts-to-persuade-xp-users-to-switch-to-windows-8-1-miss-the-mark/ | Feb 27 16:04 |
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| Sosumi | yes, because a P4 will run it | Feb 27 16:04 |
| msb | MinceR: hard to find. only 44 google hits. | Feb 27 16:04 |
| MinceR | well, i was hoping you would already know | Feb 27 16:04 |
| msb | "in Germany the salary ratio of shopfloor worker/producer to ceo is around 20:1, in England around 40:1, in the united states i understand it is around 400:1" http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=03/12/31/3732693 | Feb 27 16:05 |
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| MinceR | actually i think such a rule would be circumvented extremely easily | Feb 27 16:06 |
| MinceR | spin off a company to do the low-income jobs and contract those services to that company | Feb 27 16:06 |
| msb | Not if there's a wealth tax too. | Feb 27 16:06 |
| MinceR | the wealth tax seems orthogonal to this | Feb 27 16:06 |
| msb | Large differences in wealth are harmful. | Feb 27 16:07 |
| MinceR | on the other hand, the wealth tax seems to be a more effective means to reduce wealth disparity | Feb 27 16:07 |
| msb | OK! The Republicans just kicked you out! | Feb 27 16:07 |
| MinceR | sure, but i'm not sure if they're harmful because of the difference or because of the fraudulent means by which they're usually accumulated | Feb 27 16:07 |
| msb | They're harmful because they give power to a few. As you said, money is always power. | Feb 27 16:08 |
| MinceR | i could find plenty of examples of people who have amassed great wealth by unfair means -- but this doesn't mean that amassing great wealth is evil by itself | Feb 27 16:08 |
| msb | It gets used for evil. sooner or later a psychopath comes along in the family, uses the wealth to control the govt, and starts dominating and murdering people. | Feb 27 16:09 |
| MinceR | it often does, but it doesn't have to be | Feb 27 16:10 |
| MinceR | another issue is how you deal with people inheriting great wealth | Feb 27 16:10 |
| msb | The great wealth should be gradually taxed away and distributed to non-wealthy (but still willing to work) people. | Feb 27 16:11 |
| msb | $10 million is enough for any family to live on. | Feb 27 16:12 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't approach this in term of families but in term of persons | Feb 27 16:12 |
| msb | If they can get a 5% ROI, that's $500K/year. | Feb 27 16:12 |
| MinceR | also, i'm not convinced that governments really need that much money | Feb 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | there's a lot of waste going on | Feb 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | buying msft licences, buying hypePads for MPs, for example | Feb 27 16:14 |
| MinceR | ironically, we hear republicans talking about how they want to reduce the government and reduce taxes while they do the exact opposite | Feb 27 16:15 |
| msb | Big expenses are maintaining a huge military, hundreds of bases around the world. | Feb 27 16:16 |
| MinceR | another example of waste | Feb 27 16:16 |
| msb | Much bigger than MSFT licenses or ipads. | Feb 27 16:16 |
| MinceR | and worse than that | Feb 27 16:16 |
| MinceR | the USA abuses the extra power it has over other states | Feb 27 16:17 |
| msb | Of course govts should use only FOSS. | Feb 27 16:17 |
| MinceR | (while it's being controlled by the megacorporations that effectively own both parties) | Feb 27 16:17 |
| msb | Now you're getting it! | Feb 27 16:17 |
| msb | Capitalism also wastes a lot of work and money on competition. | Feb 27 16:18 |
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| MinceR | and yet capitalist economies are still massively more effective than communist ones. | Feb 27 16:18 |
| MinceR | competition _is_ important | Feb 27 16:19 |
| MinceR | and so is diversity. | Feb 27 16:19 |
| MinceR | democracy also has its running costs (for example, the extra cost of doing referenda and midterm elections) | Feb 27 16:19 |
| msb | Nicaraguans are much happier under socialism than under capitalist Somoza. | Feb 27 16:19 |
| MinceR | but it's still better than the known alternatives | Feb 27 16:19 |
| MinceR | would you be happier as a cuban non-state-party-member whom the government doesn't allow to access the internet? | Feb 27 16:20 |
| msb | If the US would stop attacking Cuba it would become more democratic. | Feb 27 16:21 |
| Sosumi | ukraine just sold 1.5 billion hryvnia of 5 years domestic notes at 11.5% yield | Feb 27 16:21 |
| Sosumi | to some spanish hedgefund | Feb 27 16:21 |
| MinceR | msb: i really doubt that | Feb 27 16:21 |
| msb | The US did the Bay of Pigs invasion, and sprayed Cuba with swine flu to kill their pigs and thrips palmii to kill their crops. | Feb 27 16:21 |
| MinceR | dictators don't tend to soften if they're left alone | Feb 27 16:22 |
| msb | Castro is/was not a greatly evil "dictator". | Feb 27 16:23 |
| MinceR | every dictator is greatly evil. | Feb 27 16:23 |
| msb | Cuba has a lot of democracy. | Feb 27 16:23 |
| MinceR | in propaganda, i'm sure | Feb 27 16:23 |
| msb | Obama is a dictator, ruling by executive orders. | Feb 27 16:24 |
| msb | and media lies. | Feb 27 16:24 |
| MinceR | when the government kindly allows the people to buy computers, that must be a lot of democracy | Feb 27 16:24 |
| MinceR | i doubt obama has that much power, he comes and goes | Feb 27 16:24 |
| MinceR | you should watch out for the people pulling his strings. | Feb 27 16:24 |
| MinceR | and yet i'm pretty sure that even the current system makes it easy for the voters to cast off their two-party rulers | Feb 27 16:25 |
| MinceR | just start voting for 'third parties' | Feb 27 16:25 |
| msb | Big corps, like the insurance and drug companies that wrote and benefit from obamacare. | Feb 27 16:25 |
| MinceR | it's their fault for not informing themselves and not voting that way. | Feb 27 16:25 |
| MinceR | meanwhile there's only one candidate on the ballot in north korea. | Feb 27 16:26 |
| MinceR | the only way out is revolution. | Feb 27 16:26 |
| msb | They get flooded with lies from the corporate media. | Feb 27 16:26 |
| MinceR | they have access to other media. | Feb 27 16:26 |
| MinceR | they could talk to each other. | Feb 27 16:26 |
| MinceR | most of them have access to the internet. | Feb 27 16:26 |
| msb | The koreans wanted to unify in the '50s. The US backed the dictator in the south, and murdered 30% of the population in the north, in the korean war. | Feb 27 16:27 |
| msb | That's why north korea is the hell that it is today. | Feb 27 16:27 |
| MinceR | and yet now the south is free and the north is one of the darkest, most brutal dictatorships on the planet. | Feb 27 16:27 |
| msb | yes | Feb 27 16:28 |
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| MinceR | so the US was on the right side after all. | Feb 27 16:29 |
| MinceR | bbl | Feb 27 16:29 |
| msb | No. If they US had not backed the fascists and attacked the north, the whole country would be free now. | Feb 27 16:30 |
| msb | Child porn can never be stopped unless the Net is totally censored. It may even be beneficial, if pedophiles use it for masturbation, instead of molesting actual children. | Feb 27 16:32 |
| msb | Since there's no doubt already plenty of kiddyporn available, no more children need be molested to make more. | Feb 27 16:33 |
| schestowitz__ | msb: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439072574916796416 | Feb 27 16:33 |
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| msb | schestowitz__: Thanks, Roy! That's gotta go up on my site! | Feb 27 16:36 |
| schestowitz__ | My dad agrees with your views on US foreign policy | Feb 27 16:50 |
| schestowitz__ | But some of the other stuff you say needs reconsideration | Feb 27 16:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439079866617835520 | Feb 27 16:50 |
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| DaemonFC | [11:18] <MinceR> and yet capitalist economies are still massively more effective than communist ones. | Feb 27 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | The US economy is looking more like a communist one these days. | Feb 27 17:19 |
| DaemonFC | Try to sign up for internet service and you'll see what I mean. | Feb 27 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439085769379287041 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439088124350971904 | Feb 27 17:22 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9246609/Apple_retires_Snow_Leopard_from_support_leaves_1_in_5_Macs_vulnerable_to_attacks | Feb 27 17:25 |
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| DaemonFC | Uhhhm, if they had $3,000 for the computer, then why can't they upgrade the operating system? | Feb 27 17:25 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 27 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Dick Cheney is alive with no pulse. | Feb 27 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | I think that they're sneaking human victims to him so that he can eat their flesh and brains at this point. It's the only possible explanation for why he's still alive. | Feb 27 17:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Nyssen11/status/439100786128478208 | Feb 27 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nyssen11: @schestowitz So you like FF phones = ZTE & Alcatel = "ethical companies" ? | Feb 27 18:14 | |
| Sosumi | snow leopard has been unsupported after mountain lion was released | Feb 27 18:24 |
| Sosumi | aka 2012 | Feb 27 18:25 |
| Sosumi | with the only updates it received after that | Feb 27 18:26 |
| Sosumi | being very critical stuff | Feb 27 18:26 |
| Sosumi | also, lion isn't supported anymore | Feb 27 18:28 |
| Sosumi | only mountain lion and moronicks are supported at moment | Feb 27 18:28 |
| Sosumi | until the next release comes in | Feb 27 18:29 |
| Sosumi | then mountain lion loses support | Feb 27 18:29 |
| MinceR | re | Feb 27 18:36 |
| MinceR | 173027 < msb> No. If they US had not backed the fascists and attacked the north, the whole country would be free now. | Feb 27 18:36 |
| MinceR | citation needed | Feb 27 18:36 |
| MinceR | 173340 < msb> Since there's no doubt already plenty of kiddyporn available, no more children need be molested to make more. | Feb 27 18:36 |
| MinceR | it's a pity catholic priests won't settle for porn | Feb 27 18:36 |
| MinceR | 192507 < Sosumi> snow leopard has been unsupported after mountain lion was released | Feb 27 18:38 |
| MinceR | extra confusion: Mountain Lion is supported but Puma isn't | Feb 27 18:38 |
| MinceR | but those are the same species. | Feb 27 18:38 |
| Sosumi | spelling or grammar errors happen when I'm working and just give a quick glance to the irc window | Feb 27 18:42 |
| MinceR | i didn't notice any, nor was looking for them :> | Feb 27 18:43 |
| Sosumi | forget the names of the cats | Feb 27 18:43 |
| MinceR | i'm making fun of crApple's naming decisions | Feb 27 18:43 |
| Sosumi | 10.6 lost support in 2012 | Feb 27 18:43 |
| Sosumi | not now | Feb 27 18:43 |
| MinceR | they should release Cougar next | Feb 27 18:44 |
| Sosumi | crapple kills support for their OS after the 2nd release | Feb 27 18:44 |
| Sosumi | a cougar is a mountain lion | Feb 27 18:44 |
| MinceR | and so's a puma | Feb 27 18:44 |
| MinceR | their "support" is worthless, their critical security updates lag for ages | Feb 27 18:44 |
| Sosumi | or a 40 - 50 years old women wearing heavy make up and provocative clothing | Feb 27 18:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 27 18:45 |
| MinceR | that might be a bit too long for a codename, though | Feb 27 18:45 |
| Sosumi | trying to score some hits with younger guys | Feb 27 18:45 |
| Sosumi | if that surprises you, then imagine the time they take until they acknowledge there's an issue | Feb 27 18:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 27 18:46 |
| MinceR | they still acknowledge issues faster than their fans do :> | Feb 27 18:47 |
| Sosumi | they still haven't fixed the thunderebolt sleep issues | Feb 27 18:47 |
| Sosumi | their 2011 laptops with amd gpus seem to be dying | Feb 27 18:47 |
| Sosumi | apparently in the same fashion all the gt8600m laptops did | Feb 27 18:48 |
| Sosumi | back in 2008 | Feb 27 18:48 |
| Sosumi | or 2007 | Feb 27 18:48 |
| Sosumi | with blurred lines and artifacts | Feb 27 18:49 |
| Sosumi | until no video signal | Feb 27 18:49 |
| MinceR | see, that's the famous crApple quality :> | Feb 27 18:49 |
| Sosumi | the problem is with amd | Feb 27 18:50 |
| Sosumi | actually it is with both | Feb 27 18:51 |
| Sosumi | I actually think the part is failing due to heat stress | Feb 27 18:51 |
| Sosumi | given the poor cooling design on the unibody macbooks | Feb 27 18:51 |
| Sosumi | and amd for failing to build a part actually capable to handle the stress according to their specification | Feb 27 18:52 |
| Sosumi | the case with the nvidia gt8600m was a defective batch | Feb 27 18:52 |
| Sosumi | since failings were not only happening on crapple laptops but also hp's | Feb 27 18:53 |
| Sosumi | something similar also happened with the gt8800 gpus | Feb 27 18:57 |
| msb | MinceR: Catholic priests are forbidden from having sex, which is always done for control purposes. That's the primary problem there. Also, gay kiddyporn is illegal, so they would have a hard time getting it. | Feb 27 18:59 |
| msb | MinceR: As to korea, I F Stone wrote about it. Students from north and south were demonstrating for unification. My claim that if the US had not backed the fascist torturer/murderer in the south, and had not bombed strafed napalmed 30% of the population in the north, that a united country would be free, is a deduction. | Feb 27 19:02 |
| msb | Govts always become (more) authoritarian when their nation is subjected to a genocidal attack. Attempting to survive. | Feb 27 19:03 |
| MinceR | they had russia and red china nearby trying to make as many commie states as they could | Feb 27 19:15 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/1IWjMjk.png | Feb 27 19:17 |
| Sosumi | task manager telling that at least an instance of task manager isn't working | Feb 27 19:33 |
| Sosumi | lol m$ | Feb 27 19:33 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/deep-black-more-details-on-boeings-new-secure-android-smartphone/ | Feb 27 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Deep Black: More details on Boeing’s new secure Android smartphone | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gppqd ] | Feb 27 20:34 | |
| Sosumi | do you want one? | Feb 27 20:34 |
| Sosumi | I don't | Feb 27 20:34 |
| MinceR | i'm fine with my current phone for now | Feb 27 20:34 |
| MinceR | i'm waiting for tizen, mostly :> | Feb 27 20:34 |
| Sosumi | I still think that nexus 5 with a custom rom or android open source > all | Feb 27 20:34 |
| MinceR | yeah, it seems good | Feb 27 20:35 |
| MinceR | not sure if it works with only free software, though | Feb 27 20:35 |
| Sosumi | well ofc not, the android implementation on the boeing phone is close source | Feb 27 20:37 |
| Sosumi | just like the samsung version | Feb 27 20:37 |
| Sosumi | and the modification they the knox platform | Feb 27 20:37 |
| Sosumi | *call | Feb 27 20:37 |
| MinceR | pft | Feb 27 20:37 |
| Sosumi | if only google had released android under gpl | Feb 27 20:38 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 27 20:38 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Feb 27 20:38 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 20:38 |
| MinceR | hay sebsebseb | Feb 27 20:38 |
| Sosumi | sebsebseb, have you finally made the "big" jump? | Feb 27 20:39 |
| MinceR | rocket jump with quad damage? | Feb 27 20:40 |
| MinceR | redeemer jump? | Feb 27 20:40 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: what big jump ? | Feb 27 20:41 |
| Sosumi | onto the macintosh, of course :) | Feb 27 20:41 |
| MinceR | interesting way to break it | Feb 27 20:41 |
| Sosumi | sebsebseb, cheer on | Feb 27 20:44 |
| Sosumi | just a trolling attempt :P | Feb 27 20:44 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/spy-agency-intercepts-yahoo-webcam-chats-nudes-and-all/ | Feb 27 21:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Spy agency intercepts Yahoo webcam chats, nudes and all | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gpq0l ] | Feb 27 21:02 | |
| Sosumi | probably there's no longer enough budget left for a playboy subscription | Feb 27 21:05 |
| MinceR | consensual doesn't turn them on | Feb 27 21:07 |
| Sosumi | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | Feb 27 21:07 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/02/26/352307/german-economic-powerhouse-on-sand/ | Feb 27 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.presstv.com | PressTV - German economy a process of brutal exploitation: Economist [ http://ur1.ca/gpqdx ] | Feb 27 21:44 | |
| Sosumi | it is true | Feb 27 21:44 |
| Sosumi | finally, someone wrote about it | Feb 27 21:44 |
| MinceR | http://kep.cdn.index.hu/1/0/558/5583/55835/5583524_00ce04802323799cc0e5e05cef030f7d_wm.jpg | Feb 27 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx10N7ZSXPIL35T | Feb 27 22:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Church sign in Harlem [ http://ur1.ca/gpqo3 ] | Feb 27 22:16 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 27 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | It just goes to prove that black Christians can be just as crazy as white Christians. | Feb 27 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | I think it speaks volumes for how far they've come in the world, where a white Christian bigot such as yourself is perfectly comfortable quoting a black Christian bigot. | Feb 27 22:17 |
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| MinceR | gn | Feb 27 23:02 |
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| DaemonFC | I really need to get some decaf coffee. | Feb 28 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 28 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | Why does California have the most lawyers while New Jersey has the most toxic waste dumps? | Feb 28 00:28 |
| DaemonFC | New Jersey got the first pick. | Feb 28 00:28 |
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| msb | Sosumi: That presstv article about the German economy is very good! Thanks! | Feb 28 00:55 |
| DaemonFC | I don't feel like cooking tonight, | Feb 28 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | I might just make some beefaroni for dinner. | Feb 28 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | msb: Can you believe people feed this stuff to their kids? | Feb 28 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | Probably made of diseased animal remnants. | Feb 28 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | Probably requires an enema to flush it back out... | Feb 28 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | People feed it to their kids. | Feb 28 00:57 |
| msb | DaemonFC: I just ate a "fire-grilled steak" + veg + rice mix brandname "Evol". Delicious! $4 from Safeway. | Feb 28 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | We don't have Safeway here. | Feb 28 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's Walmart or Kroger. | Feb 28 00:59 |
| DaemonFC | Fort Wayne has Meijer as well, and maybe a Marsh or two if they haven't closed. | Feb 28 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | Marsh is really expensive. | Feb 28 01:00 |
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| msb | DaemonFC: beefaroni is actually made from dead diseased animals. They have to be dead for at least a week to be cheap enough. | Feb 28 01:00 |
| msb | Evol is a new brand. But not a safeway brand. Maybe it's at one of your supermarkets. | Feb 28 01:00 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Feb 28 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | ibotta has been offering me like a dollar or something to buy one of their frozen burritos | Feb 28 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Feb 28 01:02 |
| DaemonFC | I should really start buying that whole wheat pasta. | Feb 28 01:03 |
| msb | Red Baron pizzas are good. Blot the fat off after you nuke them, and sprinkle on garlic and oregano to taste. Sometimes $3.50, usually $7. Feeds two. | Feb 28 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, feeds two means that I'll eat two of them. | Feb 28 01:03 |
| msb | I'm big and am overstuffed after eating one. | Feb 28 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | I like those special deluxe ones. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | and the Mexican ones if I can find them. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| msb | I should leave some for another meal but it tastes too good. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | I can eat a whole one. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| msb | yes, I get the special deluxe type. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | I liked to dump jalapeno peppers and sour cream and salsa all over the mexican ones. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | I usually only eat once a day. | Feb 28 01:05 |
| msb | Woof! | Feb 28 01:05 |
| msb | With cheap food and free porn one can live a happy life! | Feb 28 01:06 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah....... | Feb 28 01:06 |
| DaemonFC | Well, porn isn't very interactive, but at least there aren't any fights and there's an off button when you want it to go away. | Feb 28 01:07 |
| msb | I even made a bash script using mplayer that loads specified videos and plays specified spans of them at specified speeds, and repeats. | Feb 28 01:08 |
| msb | mplayer has a whole programmable interface, very easy to use, takes commands from stdin and prints location in seconds to stdout. No C programming needed, just bash. | Feb 28 01:10 |
| msb | I also wrote one to remove channel logos from TV videos. | Feb 28 01:11 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't like those. It turns the logo into a translucent blob. | Feb 28 01:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Windows intuitive http://t.co/Bh7EmXydTL | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #gchq hires perverts not only to spy on porn surfing habits of "targets" http://t.co/J9erQi1Bkt | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Spy agency intercepts Yahoo webcam chats, nudes and all | Ars Technica | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Not just #microsoft #skype exposes videos in real-time to creepy British+US spies http://t.co/s2yMYosyMY ... https://t.co/kKNx4R5GwC | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | GCHQ's interception and storage of Yahoo webcam images condemned | World news | theguardian.com | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joindiaspora.com | Not just #microso... | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439212615190216706 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439212680046710784 | Feb 28 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Apple retires Snow Leopard from support, leaves 1 in 5 Macs vulnerable http://t.co/IOX8P5jvWL pay up or die: hallmark of nonfree software | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworld.com | Apple retires Snow Leopard from support, leaves 1 in 5 Macs vulnerable to attacks - Computerworld | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Yesterday, for the first time, I checked log files for varnish at #tuxmachines and #techrights : ~1000 lines per second. | Feb 28 01:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Uhhm, I did some stuff on Yahoo webcam, but it was like 10-11 years ago... | Feb 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care if they recorded it. I don't consider it embarrassing. | Feb 28 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason this stuff has blackmail value is because people find it embarrassing, which is ridiculous. | Feb 28 01:42 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.reddit.com/r/Frugal/comments/1nn24w/help_me_out_with_a_cheap_beefaroni_clone/ | Feb 28 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Help me out with a cheap Beefaroni clone! : Frugal [ http://ur1.ca/gps9w ] | Feb 28 01:49 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how much cheaper it gets. I got it for 65 cents per can on sale + coupons. | Feb 28 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | msb: My stepdad's sister is on some kind of heart healthy diet or something. | Feb 28 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | Her cardiologist said "If it tastes good, spit it out.". | Feb 28 01:53 |
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| msb | That's ridiculous! Take ubiquinol, carnitine, vit E, vit C, B vits, fish oil for heart. | Feb 28 01:58 |
| BfreeCsex | any wone here ? | Feb 28 01:59 |
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| msb | mplayer delogo works like this, and blends in very well. You specify a rectangle that wholly (but barely) contains the logo. For any point inside the rectangle, extend a horizontal line and a vertical line to the sides of the rectangle, making 4 intersection points. Average the color of those 4 points and make the internal point that color. | Feb 28 02:00 |
| msb | You can specify multiple rectangles if there's more than one logo. | Feb 28 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | msb: there are plenty of fruits and vegetables that you can eat raw that are perfectly find for a heart healthy diet. | Feb 28 02:02 |
| msb | PF Chang frozen chinese food is yummy. | Feb 28 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | That doctor is an idiot. | Feb 28 02:02 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439215348521652224 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439215777385025536 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216013344010240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216205980008448 | Feb 28 02:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: GNOME Display Manager 3.12 Beta 1 Brings FreeBSD Build Fixes http://t.co/S7GZPfA4aI #bsd #freebsd #gnome | Feb 28 02:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Boeing makes Orwellian phones with #android #linux http://t.co/MRJNxKK0Y2 http://t.co/c1OQOfw6NU like #ibm 'innovation': self destruction | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Deep Black: More details on Boeing’s new secure Android smartphone | Ars Technica | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eweek.com | Blackphone, Boeing Self-Destructing Phone Are Security Motivated | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Mobile Linux OSes Innovate, Cut Costs as Smartphone Market Slows http://t.co/Gp24hvxONo #linux | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Mobile Linux OSes Innovate, Cut Costs as Smartphone Market Slows | Linux.com | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Shuttleworth says Ubuntu is sticking with MySQL http://t.co/YDbAm4UkFh #oracle #mysql #canonical #ubuntu | Feb 28 02:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: First Beta of Epiphany 3.12 Web Browser Brings a Revamped Location Bar http://t.co/mRiJtL99Qo #gnome #gnu #linux | Feb 28 02:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Debian for OpenRISC http://t.co/5LYWWVjilg #risc #debian #gnu #linux | Feb 28 02:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Four Chrome extensions to make #Chromebook web reading easier http://t.co/kBs1yVZhI8 #gnu #linux #google | Feb 28 02:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Four Chrome extensions to make #Chromebook web reading easier http://t.co/kBs1yVZhI8 #gnu #linux #google | Feb 28 02:03 | |
| msb | Personally I favor grape tomatoes and navel oranges. But I take lots of vitamins. | Feb 28 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | I like those months when Subway has any footlong for $5. | Feb 28 02:04 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439217232691077122 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439217376320827392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439217688121192448 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439218010507976704 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216941740593153 | Feb 28 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #YunTab S5 Android phone uses 3D infrared for secure face unlock http://t.co/GCB8kbUa3a #android #linux | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> reviews.cnet.com | YunTab S5 Android phone uses 3D infrared for secure face unlock | Mobile World Congress - CNET Reviews | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Exciting Features Coming For Qt 5.3 http://t.co/cxd6RYFVtC #qt #kde | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Exciting Features Coming For Qt 5.3 | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google may start selling Ara phones for $50 http://t.co/L3tKZhHQBQ #ara #google #android #linux | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| DaemonFC | I end up eating subs every day. :P | Feb 28 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Google may start selling Ara phones for $50 | Muktware | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Android/Linux Overtakes XP on Weekends http://t.co/o2gUZu3R7L people leave offices with #microsoft | Feb 28 02:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: To avoid Android pitfalls, Mozilla shoulders Firefox OS update burden http://t.co/ZHC4cA7lOR #android #firefoxos #firefox #linux | Feb 28 02:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> reviews.cnet.com | To avoid Android pitfalls, Mozilla shoulders Firefox OS update burden | Mobile World Congress - CNET Reviews | Feb 28 02:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: The version of Android you run doesn't actually matter all that much. | Feb 28 02:10 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3699326 | Feb 28 02:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Android/Linux Ove... | Feb 28 02:11 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I'm always skeptical of these statistics." | Feb 28 02:11 |
| msb | DaemonFC: When you eat lunchmeat (eg, subs) containing nitrite, drink a few grams of vitamin C to neutralize the nitrosamines that otherwise can cause colon cancer. | Feb 28 02:31 |
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| DaemonFC | msb: The colon is quite a disgusting thing. | Feb 28 02:34 |
| msb | We're all full of shit. | Feb 28 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Over the course of months or years, slime and encrusted fecal matter, etc. can build up in it, and well, it can cause a whole lot of bad things to happen. | Feb 28 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | From constipation, to bloating, gas, even a bowel impaction. | Feb 28 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. The occasional enema is not a bad idea. | Feb 28 02:35 |
| DaemonFC | Or an osmotic laxative. | Feb 28 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | Miralax every once in a while can help keep things moving. | Feb 28 02:36 |
| DaemonFC | But, the biggest problem that most people seem to have is not remaining hydrated well enough. | Feb 28 02:36 |
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| DaemonFC | A person my size should be drinking 3 liters of water every day. | Feb 28 02:37 |
| msb | The idea that stuff builds up on the inside of the colon is nonsense. Unless you are severely dehydrated, the colon secretes mucus that keeps anything from sticking. | Feb 28 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | Then what is that godawful sludge that an enema forces out? | Feb 28 02:37 |
| DaemonFC | I've read conflicting reports about whether colonic irrigation is recommended or even safe. | Feb 28 02:38 |
| DaemonFC | Some doctors seem to say yes, and other seem to say no. | Feb 28 02:39 |
| msb | And if you eat enough fruits and vegetables, the fiber will retain enough water to keep the shit soft. | Feb 28 02:40 |
| msb | It's a scam and a racket. | Feb 28 02:40 |
| msb | Remember that people with HIV secrete virus into their colon. | Feb 28 02:41 |
| msb | So those colonic dives are unsafe. | Feb 28 02:42 |
| abeNd-org1 | better to just eat healthy & excercise to begin with. stay healthy, a lot easier than trying to get healthy again | Feb 28 02:43 |
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| DaemonFC | I've dated a few people who have that, but I do not have it. | Feb 28 03:06 |
| DaemonFC | Budas Root says: | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's not a crime to dislike fundies. In fact, if I owned a bakery I'd refuse to make cakes for fundies no matter how much money they offered to pay me. | Feb 28 03:10 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'd bake them a cake. | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | It would be like that movie "The Help" where the black lady made that mean woman the pie with her **** in it and then waited until she had eaten half of it and then said "Eat my ****!". | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | What did you say? | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | "I said EAT MY ****!" | Feb 28 03:10 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b675xQ1X20 | Feb 28 03:10 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3699299 | Feb 28 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | First Beta of Epi... | Feb 28 07:43 | |
| schestowitz__ | "looks very...chromeish" | Feb 28 07:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "looks very...chrome ish" | Feb 28 07:43 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/02/tories-campaign-against-scottish-independence-shock/ | Feb 28 07:48 |
| schestowitz__ | "Standard Life also threatened to leave at the time of the devolution referendum and gave out no campaign materials to staff. “Leave” of course is a relative concept – the above bunch just pop up from London from time to time to check on how the serfs are doing.' | Feb 28 07:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Tories Campaign Against Scottish Independence (Shock) [ http://ur1.ca/gpup2 ] | Feb 28 07:48 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Feb 28 11:06 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695848 | Feb 28 11:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Obama Requests NS... | Feb 28 11:07 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I hope you're right Roy. I hope you're right." | Feb 28 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: I've just made this http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/46608003.jpg | Feb 28 11:12 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 28 11:16 |
| Sosumi | more issues with trashcan pro | Feb 28 11:19 |
| Sosumi | http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1711435 | Feb 28 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | MacPro 2013 Random Restarts - MacRumors Forums [ http://ur1.ca/gpwec ] | Feb 28 11:19 | |
| Sosumi | apparently even crapple can't build their toys properly anymore | Feb 28 11:19 |
| Sosumi | their kind of turning into the M$ of the hardware business | Feb 28 11:20 |
| Sosumi | *they're | Feb 28 11:20 |
| MinceR | they were unable to for ages | Feb 28 11:22 |
| MinceR | (see crApple III) | Feb 28 11:22 |
| MinceR | and they've been the other m$ for a long time now | Feb 28 11:23 |
| Sosumi | don't go that far | Feb 28 11:23 |
| Sosumi | I wasn't around during that time | Feb 28 11:23 |
| MinceR | i wasn't around either | Feb 28 11:25 |
| Sosumi | but from what I remember their g5 powermacs, later powerbooks were quite solid | Feb 28 11:25 |
| Sosumi | the xserve was nice too, but prone to be bent | Feb 28 11:25 |
| MinceR | in that they weren't liquid, gaseous or plasma | Feb 28 11:25 |
| Sosumi | the issue with the leaks was due to some defective rings on the pumps manufactured and assembled by delphi | Feb 28 11:26 |
| Sosumi | the panasonic models didn't have that problem | Feb 28 11:26 |
| Sosumi | I have one of those, a quad g5, and is still working like champ | Feb 28 11:27 |
| Sosumi | and they didn't have these major crappings and issues left unfixed for months or years | Feb 28 11:27 |
| Sosumi | damm I even remember when World of Warcraft ran faster on OSX than it did on XP | Feb 28 11:28 |
| Sosumi | and the mac client having built in video capture | Feb 28 11:28 |
| Sosumi | while the windows version didn't | Feb 28 11:28 |
| MinceR | yes, crApple always fails to choose their suppliers -- or adds pointless gimmicks that turn proven designs into dangerous failures | Feb 28 11:29 |
| Sosumi | just like HP? no nippon-chemi, rubicon nor fujitsu capacitors on their z820 workstation | Feb 28 11:30 |
| MinceR | at least hp doesn't have their Mag"Safe"s :> | Feb 28 11:31 |
| Sosumi | also the first time I saw the delphi brand was on a car radiator | Feb 28 11:31 |
| Sosumi | and they are ok | Feb 28 11:32 |
| MinceR | what brand of car? | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | it was even manufactured in poortugal and everything | Feb 28 11:32 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | a ford | Feb 28 11:32 |
| MinceR | Found On Road Dead | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | ford fiesta from 2002 | Feb 28 11:32 |
| MinceR | Fix Or Replace Daily | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | I think | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | ^^ | Feb 28 11:32 |
| Sosumi | what about renault? | Feb 28 11:32 |
| MinceR | afaik french cars are famous for being unreliable | Feb 28 11:33 |
| MinceR | but at least they also tend to be cheap :> | Feb 28 11:33 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 28 11:33 |
| Sosumi | my ranault 21 has been quite reliable | Feb 28 11:33 |
| Sosumi | as for the magsafes they ended up making the connector out of aluminum ir order to prevent melting | Feb 28 11:36 |
| Sosumi | which is kind of lol | Feb 28 11:36 |
| MinceR | it's a pity aluminum is conductive | Feb 28 11:36 |
| MinceR | and also conducts heat | Feb 28 11:36 |
| Sosumi | I was going to say that | Feb 28 11:36 |
| Sosumi | with the added joke of roasted mactard | Feb 28 11:37 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 28 11:37 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552 | Feb 28 12:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@danbarker: .@mattcutts I think I have spotted one, Matt. Note the similarities in the content text: http://t.co/uHux3rK57f | Feb 28 12:51 | |
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| Sosumi | yanukovich said west instigated the riots | Feb 28 13:57 |
| Sosumi | then why play chicken? say that in public tv and order a clamp down? | Feb 28 13:58 |
| Sosumi | simple and clean | Feb 28 13:59 |
| Sosumi | ínstead of fleeing to russia with his tail in between his legs | Feb 28 13:59 |
| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/joeman42/status/430783817075675136/photo/1 | Feb 28 14:02 |
| Sosumi | god's chosen people | Feb 28 14:02 |
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| Sosumi | which also happen to be eastern europeans | Feb 28 14:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joeman42: Zionist Settlers taunt Palestinian lady after they evict her from her home. #BDS http://t.co/7EJRYkV2IN | Feb 28 14:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joeman42: Zionist Settlers taunt Palestinian lady after they evict her from her home. #BDS http://t.co/7EJRYkV2IN | Feb 28 14:02 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/F0IuVwv.png | Feb 28 15:02 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/yUONX8k.jpg | Feb 28 15:05 |
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| Agnesi | https://twitter.com/Navsteva/status/439422702693011456/photo/1 | Feb 28 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Navsteva: Potty-mouthed Vicky Nuland gets her new government in #Ukraine http://t.co/QSFFi5RfKU http://t.co/gcPYLjfKen | Feb 28 15:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> larouchepac.com | Vicky Nuland Gets Her New Government in Ukraine | Feb 28 15:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Navsteva: Potty-mouthed Vicky Nuland gets her new government in #Ukraine http://t.co/QSFFi5RfKU http://t.co/gcPYLjfKen | Feb 28 15:51 | |
| Agnesi | too bad the post is sponsored by Lyndon Larouche | Feb 28 15:51 |
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| Sosumi | and I can't believe it | Feb 28 15:56 |
| Sosumi | that old fossil is still alive | Feb 28 15:56 |
| Sosumi | with 90 somethings years old | Feb 28 15:57 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/dJF9sPY | Feb 28 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Hands down the best stencil art I've seen out here in Afghanistan - Imgur | Feb 28 19:56 | |
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| Sosumi | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57619685-92/ibm-laying-off-up-to-25-percent-of-hardware-division/ | Feb 28 21:53 |
| Sosumi | IBM gutting itself up | Feb 28 21:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.cnet.com | IBM laying off up to 25 percent of 'hardware' division | Business Tech - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gq1zg ] | Feb 28 21:53 | |
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| Agnesi | and freenode seems to be unstable | Feb 28 21:53 |
| Agnesi | also situation in ukraine worse now | Feb 28 21:54 |
| Agnesi | as things go | Feb 28 21:54 |
| Agnesi | crimea is to separate from ukraine | Feb 28 21:54 |
| MinceR | will it be annexed by russia? | Feb 28 21:55 |
| Agnesi | with pro russian militias taking over borders, parliament and at least a tv station | Feb 28 21:55 |
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| 7JTAABHHX | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.74 | Feb 28 22:11 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 28 23:03 |
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| sebsebseb_ | jono: ping. I would like to get some Ubuntu stuff if possible for an event on 15th March. I had contacted people before, but no good. mmhallsuggested filling in a form, looking at that now, it seems to be for an amount of money etc. apparnatly it woul go directy to you as well | Feb 28 23:41 |
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| MinceR | gn | Mar 01 01:15 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-us-ukraine-20140301,0,3629725,full.story | Mar 01 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Russia is beginning their invasion of Ukraine. | Mar 01 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pissed that ebay stopped people from selling coupons. | Mar 01 04:44 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3703004 | Mar 01 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | "I would be a lot happier if people were building out their own networks and peering with each other in addition to yelling loudly at the government overlords. Which, by the way, usually get into office with the money of the very people who are causing problem we want fixed." | Mar 01 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC: sounds to me like Western propaganda | Mar 01 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | I heard it on the radio here this morning | Mar 01 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Remember the Western role played in the coup | Mar 01 07:27 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3700197 | Mar 01 07:35 |
| schestowitz__ | "In other words, they are doing nothing to fix the concerns of the people, doing everything they can to increase the serveilance of those very people, all the while telling everybody that they are fixing things." | Mar 01 07:35 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3700179 | Mar 01 07:37 |
| schestowitz__ | "Face to face, with no electronics nearby that can be hacked and turned into microphones..." | Mar 01 07:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3705121 | Mar 01 07:37 |
| schestowitz__ | "Roling on the floor laughing !" | Mar 01 07:37 |
| schestowitz__ | http://rt.com/news/un-ukraine-russia-agreements-278/ | Mar 01 07:44 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.74 | Mar 01 07:45 |
| msb | schestowitz__: Right, Roy, the U.S. invaded Ukraine using hordes of armed masked nazis as proxies, and now Obomber is telling Russia to keep out of it. | Mar 01 07:50 |
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| DaemonFC | Shit. | Mar 01 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | A snow storm with 6-10 inches of snow possible will occur this evening. | Mar 01 08:16 |
| DaemonFC | This is basically unheard of. | Mar 01 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen this happen in March. Ever. | Mar 01 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | Hell, just two years ago, it we over 80 degrees for nearly two weeks in the middle of March. | Mar 01 08:17 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I had better go grocery shopping. | Mar 01 08:18 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung has announced the Galaxy S5, apparently. | Mar 01 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | The specs are not that much better than my LG G2. | Mar 01 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | The LG G2 has a Snapdragon 800 and 2 GB of RAM. The G5 has a Snapdragon 801 and 2 GB of RAM. | Mar 01 08:19 |
| DaemonFC | I believe that Samsung is known for piling on custom crap that slows down their phones though. | Mar 01 08:20 |
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| DaemonFC | I'd better get to ALDI when they open. | Mar 01 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | People go apeshit when a snowstorm is approaching. | Mar 01 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | They'll probably be out of everything if I don't get there soon. | Mar 01 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm out of almost everything. I've been choking down stuff that I bought and threw in the freezer months ago without thinking about for nearly a week now, just so I could get rid of it without wasting money. | Mar 01 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | The good news is that most of it is gone now and won't be wasted, but the bad news is that I'm really craving some good food right now. :) | Mar 01 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx3NLMLDXFC3YAR&newContentID=Mx3PNZBCI38A89Q#Mx3PNZBCI38A89Q | Mar 01 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The Motley Fool wonders aloud about whether Walmart will fail soon. [ http://ur1.ca/gq67j ] | Mar 01 10:27 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 01 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/02/could-wal-mart-be-the-next-giant-failure-in-retail.aspx | Mar 01 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | A few days after CNBC reported on Walmart's negative year over year same store sales comp, and suggested that they should start shutting down stores, starting with the 100 least profitable, The Motley Fool writes an article expressing similar pessimism about Walmart's future in retail, musing that it's possible to see Walmart in bankruptcy protection within several years if these trends continue. | Mar 01 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fool.com | Could Wal-Mart Be the Next Giant Failure in Retail? (WMT) [ http://ur1.ca/gq67o ] | Mar 01 10:27 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.rantlifestyle.com/2014/02/20/business-plan-wal-mart-revealed/ | Mar 01 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rantlifestyle.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gq67p ] | Mar 01 10:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, another article notes that the stores are understocked, filthy, and staffed by employees who are unmotivated. The lack of motivation is understandable. Minimum wage part time jobs with no job security or benefits package tends to cause that attitude. | Mar 01 10:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/09/24/2669191/walmart-adds-fulltime-workers/ | Mar 01 10:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | After Sales Plummet, Walmart Realizes It Can't Run Stores On Temps Alone [ http://ur1.ca/gq67q ] | Mar 01 10:27 | |
| DaemonFC | For the past couple of years, an unprecedented number of Walmart workers are temps, who have low pay and no benefits, and don't even know if they'll have a job in three months. The figure is up to 20% of a store's employees. These people are forced to re-interview for their job every 90 days. | Mar 01 10:27 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Mar 01 14:55 |
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| DaemonFC | I got a roast kit while I was at ALDI. | Mar 01 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | I think I'll make that for dinner. | Mar 01 16:28 |
| Sosumi | in soviet russia, roasting kit as you for diner at the ALDI store | Mar 01 16:30 |
| Sosumi | :) | Mar 01 16:30 |
| DaemonFC | The local KMart is going out of business. | Mar 01 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | That's sad. Now it's just down to Walmart and Big Lots. | Mar 01 16:31 |
| Sosumi | no small stores around? | Mar 01 16:31 |
| Sosumi | other than those big retailers | Mar 01 16:31 |
| DaemonFC | not really | Mar 01 16:32 |
| Sosumi | sad | Mar 01 16:32 |
| schestowitz__ | aldi is good, but I started exploring alternatives | Mar 01 16:48 |
| schestowitz__ | the range in aldi is limited | Mar 01 16:48 |
| Sosumi | do you guys have lidl stores there in theUS? | Mar 01 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | no | Mar 01 16:49 |
| Sosumi | they're quite complete and often sell national produce | Mar 01 16:49 |
| Sosumi | :( | Mar 01 16:49 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even really look at the prices at aldi. I just know I'll get a good deal. | Mar 01 16:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3706253 | Mar 01 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Steam Family 'Sharing' of #DRM now open to public http://www.muktware.com/2014/03/steam-family-sharing-now-open-public/21950 sharing the unshare-able. #steam #gnu #linux | Mar 01 16:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Steam Family Sharing now open to public | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gq8f3 ] | Mar 01 16:51 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Good, my sons will be ready soon to takeover my collection!" | Mar 01 16:51 |
| schestowitz__ | Until Valve decided to take it away | Mar 01 16:51 |
| schestowitz__ | *decides | Mar 01 16:51 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3706229 | Mar 01 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #RFID race (implants in people) was made obsolete by social and professional inertia that pressured people into carrying tracking gear | Mar 01 16:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | "In the US is was made obsolete by states telling the feds to fuck off lol..."\ | Mar 01 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706211 | Mar 01 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | No way to disable... | Mar 01 16:53 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I think Replicant would have helped more than tin foil ;)" | Mar 01 16:53 |
| schestowitz__ | Replicant still contacts the towers | Mar 01 16:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706137 | Mar 01 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | It was not a "rot... | Mar 01 16:54 | |
| schestowitz__ | "and when he resisted blackmail and continued to be effective, he was assassinated. Murder is in the toolbox." | Mar 01 16:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706043 | Mar 01 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Everyone should a... | Mar 01 16:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Hope iit becomes hot and catches on!" | Mar 01 16:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706017 | Mar 01 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | A lot of business... | Mar 01 16:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | "We've been making a list!!" | Mar 01 16:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706067 | Mar 01 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Wakeup call for C... | Mar 01 16:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | ""We can trust the NSA because without a doubt it is history's most powerful, pervasive, sophisticated surveillance agency ever to be totally pwned by a 29-year-old with a thumb drive," I would much rather he had gone to Trustycon, but you have to admit, that's pithy." | Mar 01 16:55 |
| schestowitz__ | Trustycon is funded by PRISM members like Microsoft. | Mar 01 16:56 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706211 | Mar 01 17:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "Yeah I was just joking lol..." | Mar 01 17:01 |
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| msb | http://rt.com/op-edge/us-usa-staged-ukraine-coup-570/ | Mar 01 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | ‘US, EU staged classic regime change in Ukraine’ — RT Op-Edge [ http://ur1.ca/gq8wm ] | Mar 01 18:48 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Mar 01 20:17 |
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| gde33 | I've been toying with all sorts of ideas for a rich peoples internet. All the fun [read paid] services that become possible all of a sudden. lol | Mar 01 21:59 |
| gde33 | I think we should look at it like football channel, a nice method to contain the phenomenon | Mar 01 22:00 |
| gde33 | thanks to football channel they dont have to put football on all of the other channels | Mar 01 22:00 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, this doesn't work with countries | Mar 01 22:00 |
| MinceR | everyone's got to get authoritarianism | Mar 01 22:01 |
| gde33 | a good advertisement program would primarly target the rich peoples internet | Mar 01 22:01 |
| gde33 | we could move all that stuff overthere :D | Mar 01 22:01 |
| gde33 | hahaha | Mar 01 22:01 |
| gde33 | all of our liars and all of our swindlers | Mar 01 22:01 |
| gde33 | imagine the joy? | Mar 01 22:02 |
| gde33 | I had annother idea | Mar 01 22:04 |
| gde33 | a web search that requires buying hardware to get access | Mar 01 22:05 |
| MinceR | ...per query | Mar 01 22:05 |
| gde33 | like a virtual private network with network attached storage at every node | Mar 01 22:05 |
| gde33 | then one would have to pay to get indexed | Mar 01 22:05 |
| gde33 | no crawler nonsense, full text search | Mar 01 22:06 |
| gde33 | you buy 1 node, make sure it stays active, then have access to the database | Mar 01 22:06 |
| gde33 | like a seedbox router | Mar 01 22:07 |
| gde33 | I suppose the user account could be credited for each query routed | Mar 01 22:11 |
| gde33 | bars of latinum | Mar 01 22:23 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 23 05:12 |
| Sosumi | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhGqKgZCEAAcFie.jpg:large | Feb 23 05:16 |
| Sosumi | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2014/022014-microsoft-lync-nsa-278925.html?hpg1=bn | Feb 23 05:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program - Network World [ http://ur1.ca/gokj0 ] | Feb 23 05:17 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Microsoft Lync gathers data just like NSA vacuums up info in its domestic surveillance program - Network World [ http://ur1.ca/gokj0 ] | Feb 23 05:17 | |
| Sosumi | is it just Lync? or all the outbound and inbound traffic is logged | Feb 23 05:18 |
| Sosumi | so if you were watching facebook at your workplace | Feb 23 05:19 |
| Sosumi | don't | Feb 23 05:19 |
| Sosumi | and Yanukovych just got sacked | Feb 23 05:21 |
| Sosumi | Tymoshenko, the EU lapdog, has been freed and a while a go was incentivating further protests | Feb 23 05:22 |
| Sosumi | right wing extremists were securing the parliament | Feb 23 05:22 |
| Sosumi | will they also set fire to it? | Feb 23 05:23 |
| schestowitz | ah | Feb 23 05:31 |
| schestowitz | ah, I think you forget the story of Germany | Feb 23 05:32 |
| schestowitz | not many analogies here | Feb 23 05:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: first issue of LInux Voice ready for download, but my name won't be in it | Feb 23 05:32 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: since didn't get sent off in time | Feb 23 05:32 |
| schestowitz | can do next time | Feb 23 05:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: they wil put something in the second issue it seems though | Feb 23 05:33 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: apparnatly it's got some good Mageia 4 reiew to, but I haen't looked yet | Feb 23 05:33 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3678306 | Feb 23 05:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "Valve's digital ... | Feb 23 05:33 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "Valve's digital ... | Feb 23 05:33 | |
| schestowitz | "Just like old Shareware/Freeware days, anybody remember Kroz, Commander Keen, independent publishers and developers rule" | Feb 23 05:34 |
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| sebsebseb | hi neildarlow | Feb 23 05:42 |
| neildarlow | sebsebseb: Hi there! | Feb 23 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Reason Some Games Are Delayed For Linux In | Feb 23 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Humble Indie Bundles http://t.co/sUYiFAjDFD | Feb 23 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gokwr | Feb 23 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.13.4 Brings ARM64 (AArch64) | Feb 23 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements http://t.co/V1Aysyl4Ow | Feb 23 05:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gokws | Feb 23 05:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Reason Some Games Are Delayed For Linux In Humble Indie Bundles | Tux Machines | Feb 23 05:44 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Reason Some Games Are Delayed For Linux In Humble Indie Bundles | Tux Machines | Feb 23 05:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13.4 Brings ARM64 (AArch64) Improvements | Tux Machines | Feb 23 05:44 | |
| -14WAB7WGZ/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13.4 Brings ARM64 (AArch64) Improvements | Tux Machines | Feb 23 05:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Mozilla Developers Will Unveil Some Firefox | Feb 23 07:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OS Based Devices At MWC 2014 | Feb 23 07:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/SiK2NmiYHr | Feb 23 07:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/golok | Feb 23 07:09 |
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| Sosumi | I also remember a lot of stuff | Feb 23 08:41 |
| Sosumi | but never stupider times like these | Feb 23 08:41 |
| Sosumi | back in 2004, when I actually got the computer bug | Feb 23 08:42 |
| Sosumi | things were a lot calmer | Feb 23 08:42 |
| Sosumi | and I mean it in a general perspective | Feb 23 08:42 |
| Sosumi | not just constant attempts on free software | Feb 23 08:43 |
| Sosumi | *the | Feb 23 08:43 |
| Sosumi | and we were still 4 years away from the late 2008 depression | Feb 23 08:43 |
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| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/VANDR14/status/437496427627819008/photo/1 | Feb 23 09:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@VANDR14: Вот например, сносят памятник ВОВ во Львове. http://t.co/TlLXc7vsjR | Feb 23 09:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@VANDR14: Вот например, сносят памятник ВОВ во Львове. http://t.co/TlLXc7vsjR | Feb 23 09:51 | |
| Sosumi | after toppling Lenin's monument | Feb 23 09:52 |
| Sosumi | now monuments to red army heroes that died fighting nazi germany also being toppled | Feb 23 09:53 |
| Sosumi | also, Timoshenko to meet with Merkel soon | Feb 23 09:54 |
| Sosumi | Merkel = the cadaverous golem of europe | Feb 23 09:55 |
| Sosumi | also, Camoron, "it is not russia's duty to militarily intervene in ukraine" | Feb 23 09:57 |
| Sosumi | so polish intervention under covert nato guise? | Feb 23 09:57 |
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| MinceR | i'm all for toppling commie monuments | Feb 23 10:37 |
| MinceR | but of course they're too communazi to do that in hungaristan | Feb 23 10:37 |
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| Sosumi | I remember Sarkozi in france | Feb 23 12:02 |
| Sosumi | trying to erase from history books everything related to the napolionic incursions | Feb 23 12:02 |
| Sosumi | all in order to try to bury some shady european history | Feb 23 12:04 |
| Sosumi | in order to promote further european integration | Feb 23 12:04 |
| Sosumi | and we all know | Feb 23 12:04 |
| Sosumi | those who forget the lessons of history are doomed to repeat the same mistakes | Feb 23 12:05 |
| Sosumi | and the same can be said about any kind of monuments | Feb 23 12:05 |
| Sosumi | let them stay there as marker of a long past time that should never be forgotten | Feb 23 12:05 |
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| MinceR | the reminders are not so good if they proclaim that occupants were "liberators" | Feb 23 12:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung's Tizen on Gear plan makes sense | Feb 23 12:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/T7pyLPwlcm | Feb 23 12:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfl | Feb 23 12:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Web Usage Almost Doubled, Now At ~2%? | Feb 23 12:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/kFX5XC0W1c | Feb 23 12:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfn | Feb 23 12:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google's Tim Bray steps down in the name of | Feb 23 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | working remotely http://t.co/eBCW04wptt | Feb 23 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfo | Feb 23 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti Maxwell Continues Running | Feb 23 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Great On Linux http://t.co/lN3vvjVOMc | Feb 23 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfp | Feb 23 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung's Tizen on Gear plan makes sense | Tux Machines | Feb 23 12:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Amazon's Android set-top box reportedly set for | Feb 23 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | March release http://t.co/m2HqexwjYo | Feb 23 12:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gonfq | Feb 23 12:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Web Usage Almost Doubled, Now At ~2%? | Tux Machines | Feb 23 12:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's Tim Bray steps down in the name of working remotely | Tux Machines | Feb 23 12:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti Maxwell Continues Running Great On Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 23 12:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Amazon's Android set-top box reportedly set for March release | Tux Machines | Feb 23 12:53 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Feb 23 12:58 |
| schestowitz__ | Geekings | Feb 23 14:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Is freenode finally stable again? | Feb 23 14:01 |
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| DaemonFC | I posted a rant about Apple devices. | Feb 23 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | I thought Microsoft Windows was bad until I saw ports of Apple software running on it. Where to begin? | Feb 23 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | It's fat, it's slow, it's full of bugs. It installs system level services and unrelated software that the user did not request. Just having it installed has broken Windows and left it unable to boot on several occasions.... | Feb 23 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | You're making a really big goddamned mistake if you buy an iPod or an iPhone and use Windows or GNU/Linux. Using it on Windows is a real pain because you need Apple's gargantuan buggy pile of ****ware. | Feb 23 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | On GNU/Linux, it's not *as* bad. We have a thin library that has a reverse engineered implementation of Apple's file transport protocol. It doesn't require any particular software. Amarok, Rhythmbox, and Banshee are all known to work well with libimobiledevice. | Feb 23 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | The problem is that every time we RE Apple's transport protocol, Apple changes it and we have to do it all over again, so you really have to check the libimobiledevice list of supported devices. | Feb 23 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | Even if it *does* work, you're still using an expensive iThing that does not work as well as competing products. I was astounded that anyone would pay $300 for an MP3 player. | Feb 23 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | Apple's MP3 players were not the first. And they weren't even the best when they hit the market. They just cost more than everyone else's. That's a theme with Apple devices. They're a status symbol. They occasionally make something for their poorer cultists, like the Mac Mini or the iPod Shuffle. | Feb 23 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | I looked and saw that their latest Mac Mini does not support DVI, so I'd have to buy a DVI to HDMI cable to continue using my monitor with it. And then, it does not support "High Definition Content Protection" digital handcuffs, so Mac OS would refuse to play Blu Rays at 1920 x 1080, like I can do over DVI-D with GNU/Linux because I worked around that problem. | Feb 23 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | There's a simple two step process for using the LG G2 or Google Nexus 5 with Windows or GNU/Linux. | Feb 23 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | Plug it into the USB port and open your file manager or media player. | Feb 23 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | Oh my god! It's like it's from the ****ing future! Shut up and take my money! | Feb 23 14:20 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | I posted the following comment on Mike Pence's Facebook wall, in response to a comment in favor of marijuana legalization. | Feb 23 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | "Colorado says that their tax receipts for recreational marijuana were expected to be $93 million a year, and they're on track to exceed that by a significant margin. If Governor Pence and the General Assembly used Colarado law as a model, then between 2014-2020, $700 million+ (or 25%) of the I-69 expansion would be paid for and then the state could use the tax receipts to cover its 10% share of the Medicaid expansion after 2020 with money left | Feb 23 14:46 |
| DaemonFC | over for other priorities, perhaps including an income tax reduction. It's stupid that cancer sticks and alcohol are legal and have never done a positive thing for anyone, yet nobody is seriously arguing for us to ban adults from choosing to use them, yet Indiana Republicans including Pence have made it possible to get a longer prison sentence for having one ounce of pot than for ****ing murdering someone. Replace Governor and strike any key!" | Feb 23 14:46 |
| msb__ | Cannabis can wake people up so they no longer believe and aren't controlled by the lies from the government and corporate media. That's why there were so many protests that they forced the Vietnam War to end. This was well-known at the time, published in the "underground newspapers" -- Berkeley Barb, etc. I was alive and active at that time. The government and corporate fascist thugs were shocked that the people forced one of their | Feb 23 14:59 |
| msb__ | wars to end. That's why they made the punishments for cannabis greater than for murder. | Feb 23 14:59 |
| msb__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4pBysFk84 | Feb 23 15:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Jefferson Airplane - Mexico - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/goo7n ] | Feb 23 15:05 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 15:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06XTYfChShM | Feb 23 15:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Rochard - automatische kaput - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/goo7x ] | Feb 23 15:07 | |
| DaemonFC | The computer was from Apple. ;) | Feb 23 15:07 |
| msb__ | That entire song -- Mexico -- is about cannabis. "There were a half a million people on the lawn, and we song to their faces in the dawn." -- Woodstock | Feb 23 15:10 |
| msb__ | song --> sang | Feb 23 15:10 |
| msb__ | That entire song -- Mexico -- is about cannabis. "There were a half a million people on the lawn, and we sang to their faces in the dawn." -- Woodstock | Feb 23 15:16 |
| msb__ | It was a revolution, a Renaissance. Jefferson Airplane were among the main leaders of it. We need that same spirit today! | Feb 23 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, it looks like they removed all download links and most references to any version of Safari for Windows. | Feb 23 15:20 |
| msb__ | Bush and Obama are today's Nixons. The War of Terror -- the US invading and murdering millions of people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria -- is today's Vietnam War. | Feb 23 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | Laz says: | Feb 23 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | Apple.com. I'm looking at it right now, in the support area, but never mind, you'll have to set up an account to access the support area. With all you paranoia, something you'll never do, and can't do from any Linux install. You need the account to set up Quicktime and the auto-updates, Safari won't work without it. No Quicktime for Linux. | Feb 23 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | I'll send you $20 over Paypal if you can prove to me that there is a Safari 7.1 for Windows and give me a link to the executable. | Feb 23 15:20 |
| msb__ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mplayer#Media_formats Mplayer, which runs on all three platforms, plays MOV (QuickTime) format. | Feb 23 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MPlayer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gooc9 ] | Feb 23 15:27 | |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: Is there anything we need Safari for? | Feb 23 15:30 |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: Is there anything we need Quicktime for? | Feb 23 15:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines When it comes to cloud and scale out, Ubuntu | Feb 23 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | has the winning model http://t.co/AbbUlvS42W | Feb 23 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goodc | Feb 23 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FLOSS Office Suites http://t.co/c0TX03Cmls | Feb 23 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goodd | Feb 23 15:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung drops Android for Tizen in new Gear 2 | Feb 23 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | smartwatches http://t.co/M125AB8NMX | Feb 23 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goode | Feb 23 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android 4.5 to arrive on Nexus 8 in July | Feb 23 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/T2RKEtj3La | Feb 23 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goodg | Feb 23 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ars walkthrough: Using the ZFS next-gen | Feb 23 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | filesystem on Linux http://t.co/mRG1Qz1ra7 | Feb 23 15:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goodh | Feb 23 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | When it comes to cloud and scale out, Ubuntu has the winning model | Tux Machines | Feb 23 15:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FLOSS Office Suites | Tux Machines | Feb 23 15:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung drops Android for Tizen in new Gear 2 smartwatches | Tux Machines | Feb 23 15:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android 4.5 to arrive on Nexus 8 in July | Tux Machines | Feb 23 15:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ars walkthrough: Using the ZFS next-gen filesystem on Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 23 15:36 | |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: I just played three .mov videos with mplayer -- picture and sound fine. | Feb 23 15:39 |
| Sosumi | MD Players sound quality > all | Feb 23 16:02 |
| Sosumi | at the time | Feb 23 16:02 |
| Sosumi | but comparing the ipods with the creative jukeboxes and so on | Feb 23 16:03 |
| Sosumi | the ipods were better | Feb 23 16:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/CM6G1ge85A | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/goojz | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/wvuu8rMilc | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook0 | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Several Great Linux Terminal Games | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/dt1953LTUK | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook1 | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines QBEH-1: The Atlas Cube Atmospheric First Person | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Puzzle Game Releasing In April For Linux | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ju8SxnaADH | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook3 | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.13 Finally Arrives on Arch | Feb 23 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 23 16:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux, with a Warning http://t.co/oF4I6I4bo0 | Feb 23 16:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gook4 | Feb 23 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Feb 23 16:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Several Great Linux Terminal Games | Tux Machines | Feb 23 16:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QBEH-1: The Atlas Cube Atmospheric First Person Puzzle Game Releasing In April For Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 23 16:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.13 Finally Arrives on Arch Linux, with a Warning | Tux Machines | Feb 23 16:15 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 23 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, the county was hurting for money so bad that they canceled their agreement to subsidize Walmart, and started sending Walmart a tax bill. They taxed Walmart for $460,000 last year. I got a kick out of that. | Feb 23 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart went from paying nothing to being the top taxpayer in the county within one year. | Feb 23 16:23 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3678683 | Feb 23 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | When writers reli... | Feb 23 16:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | "|Big publishers entered the memory hole era a decade ago. This is why it is important to be able to share. We won't have libraries with the evil copyright laws publishers force on us. US News now has all the validity and weight of toilet paper.| | Feb 23 16:39 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3679189 | Feb 23 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Google used to re... | Feb 23 16:40 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 23 16:40 |
| schestowitz__ | I think the deal was that you were supposed to spend 20% of your time on some personal project. An inexpensive book scanner, I think, is an example of such a project. | Feb 23 16:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Scroogle is scaring people away but I don't know if there has been any real internal cultural change. Certainly, they have sucked in a lot of people and there are infiltrators. That they can tolerate Microsoft people in management is a bad sign. | Feb 23 16:40 |
| schestowitz__ | If any company could pull off a remote campus, it should be Google. There is something special about a university type setting where people bump into each other and are constantly challenged and exposed to new ideas. Perhaps they should have offered Bray a sabbatical instead of an ultimatum. | Feb 23 16:40 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 23 16:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe he can join a company like Jolla now | Feb 23 16:40 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3679110 | Feb 23 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | The worst thing o... | Feb 23 16:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Now an official part of the effort to restore trust in the usual bad actors?" | Feb 23 16:41 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3679141 | Feb 23 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Linux Web Usage A... | Feb 23 16:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | "The eternal 2% lie wont' go away till Microsoft is dead." | Feb 23 16:41 |
| schestowitz__ | a quarter of computers sold with a form of Linux, so their stats (US only) lack integrity | Feb 23 16:41 |
| schestowitz__ | > == | Feb 23 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 23 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > "Netflix Agrees to Pay Comcast to End Traffic Jam" | Feb 23 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304834704579401071892041790 | Feb 23 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-online.wsj.com | Netflix Agrees to Pay Comcast to End Web Traffic Jam - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/gooti ] | Feb 23 16:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 23 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | > So it escalates. Net Neutrality not even mentioned in the article. | Feb 23 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | WSJ hates Net Neutrality. Murdoch would benefit from slowing down competition. | Feb 23 16:52 |
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| DaemonFC | Menards has Shell 5w30 on sale for $1.99 a quart. | Feb 23 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | I might go stock up... | Feb 23 18:43 |
| MinceR | gn | Feb 23 19:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PC-BSD 10.0 vs. PC-BSD 9.2 vs. Ubuntu 13.10 | Feb 23 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Benchmarks http://t.co/5Oyz5l9K4g | Feb 23 20:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gopy6 | Feb 23 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PC-BSD 10.0 vs. PC-BSD 9.2 vs. Ubuntu 13.10 Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Feb 23 20:54 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxM00TCYYML18V | Feb 23 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Netflix has agreed to pay Comcast to stop throttling their traffic. [ http://ur1.ca/goq23 ] | Feb 23 21:24 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/business/media/comcast-and-netflix-reach-a-streaming-agreement.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0 | Feb 23 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix has paid Comcast to quit bullying them. | Feb 23 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/goq24 ] | Feb 23 21:24 | |
| DaemonFC | One wonders who Comcast will bully next. Now that they know it works and that they can get away with extortion. | Feb 23 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast subscribers, who pay $70-80 a month should not get degraded service and bandwidth caps. | Feb 23 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | "a person close to the companies said it involved annual payments of several million dollars" | Feb 23 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | The extortion might get bigger when the deal expires. | Feb 23 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix will not absorb this. They will raise their service prices by several dollars per subscriber, and make their subscribers pay it. | Feb 23 21:24 |
| DaemonFC | Sprint plans to roll out the Android 4.4 update soon. | Feb 23 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | to the LG G2... | Feb 23 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | They're going to roll out the 4.4.2 release | Feb 23 22:15 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/news/local/Suspect-Leads-Police-On-Pursuit-Before-Capture-246791541.html | Feb 24 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indianasnewscenter.com | Suspect Leads Police On Pursuit Before Capture (VIDEO) | Indiana's NewsCenter: News, Sports, Weather, Fort Wayne WPTA-TV, WISE-TV, and CW | Local [ http://ur1.ca/gorcb ] | Feb 24 01:49 | |
| DaemonFC | "Fort Wayne police identified the suspect as Henry Purifoy III, 23, of Fort Wayne." | Feb 24 01:49 |
| DaemonFC | Whenever someone's name ends with "III", you know they're a trailer park meth head. | Feb 24 01:50 |
| MinceR | like bill gates? :> | Feb 24 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | well... | Feb 24 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | In Indiana, at least. | Feb 24 01:55 |
| DaemonFC | The most Republican part of the state is Wakarusa. | Feb 24 01:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3678229 | Feb 24 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Google Search is ... | Feb 24 01:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | "If it's the same with a different ISP, I suppose that it's Google. Is anyone else reporting this yet?" | Feb 24 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | In the Potawatomi language, it means "knee deep in mud". | Feb 24 01:56 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, anyone that lives in Indiana right now is neck deep in shit, and I don't know the Potawatomi word for that. | Feb 24 01:57 |
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| MinceR | :> | Feb 24 02:00 |
| DaemonFC | I'm reading another story about the diseased animal parts that are unfit for human consumption in Hot Pockets while eating Hot Pockets. | Feb 24 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | It's OK because they're not the philly cheese steak ones that are made with ground internal organs. | Feb 24 02:01 |
| DaemonFC | These claim they are a "cuban sandwich" with ham, swiss cheese, pickles, and mustard. | Feb 24 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, who knows what it really is? | Feb 24 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | Probably ground internal organs from diseased animals with a bunch of chemicals. | Feb 24 02:02 |
| DaemonFC | But it was only $1.49, so I can die with a little bit of money. | Feb 24 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | http://thinkprogress.org/home/2014/02/23/3321131/iphone-security-flaw/ | Feb 24 02:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | Latest iPhone Update Fixes Major Security Flaw That Apple Kept Quiet | ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/gori6 ] | Feb 24 02:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 3.14-rc4 http://t.co/dqP5zxsQAC | Feb 24 02:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gormg | Feb 24 02:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 3.14-rc4 | Tux Machines | Feb 24 02:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu’s Booth at MWC 2014 Looks Spectacular | Feb 24 03:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/BEJeJCtbdo | Feb 24 03:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gorrz | Feb 24 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu’s Booth at MWC 2014 Looks Spectacular | Tux Machines | Feb 24 03:20 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/22/bill-maher-overcoming-masturbation_n_4838140.html | Feb 24 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | Bill Maher Reads The Most Ineffective Anti-Masturbation Pamphlet Ever [ http://ur1.ca/gos7y ] | Feb 24 04:23 | |
| DaemonFC | The Microsoft Media shells out big bucks slandering Android by claiming it is unforkable, then Microsoft collaborator Nokia forks Android to serve Microsoft. | Feb 24 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://gizmodo.com/nokia-x-the-first-nokia-android-1529525060 | Feb 24 04:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Nokia X: The First Nokia Androids [ http://ur1.ca/gosah ] | Feb 24 04:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Meld 3.11.0 Has Been Ported to GTK+ 3 | Feb 24 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/vVsXNX0tJW | Feb 24 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gosb0 | Feb 24 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Opening Up Communications | Feb 24 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/g0d18eyUbG | Feb 24 04:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gosb1 | Feb 24 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meld 3.11.0 Has Been Ported to GTK+ 3 | Tux Machines | Feb 24 04:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Opening Up Communications | Tux Machines | Feb 24 04:43 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 24 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2014/02/06 | Feb 24 04:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | As TPP Opposition Soars, Corporate Media Blackout Deafening | Common Dreams [ http://ur1.ca/gosc7 ] | Feb 24 04:49 | |
| DaemonFC | There's a blackout on the Trans Pacific Partnership. Fox News and CNN mentioned it ZERO times. MSNBC mentioned it the Ed Show several times, but even he really softballed it. | Feb 24 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | You'd expect more news coverage of a treaty between countries that control more than 40% of the Gross World Product. | Feb 24 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's shameful that we have to go to the internet to read reports about the leaked draft, and how it will murder people with drug patents and kill the software freedom movement. | Feb 24 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | Even Congress is having a hard time reviewing the drafts. It's easier for them to read the internet leaks than to get Obama's US Trade Representative to cooperate. | Feb 24 04:49 |
| msb__ | DaemonFC: How will the TPP kill the software freedom movement? Not saying it won't, I'm just ignorant on it. | Feb 24 05:43 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 24 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | The enforcement of the 300 GB cap has been "temporarily suspended" for over two years now. | Feb 24 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | Download away! | Feb 24 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, I have heard of them "contacting" people about "excessive" usage if they go past 700 GB. | Feb 24 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | One dude got a phone call from Comcast because they thought his computer might be a spam-spewing Windows zombie. | Feb 24 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | People who use Windows and don't make sure it is free of spam-spewing malware deserve to open up a $500 cable bill. ****ers. | Feb 24 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | That'll teach 'em. | Feb 24 05:58 |
| DaemonFC | It will require every member state, including the US, to make patent violations a criminal offense. | Feb 24 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | Including software patents. | Feb 24 05:59 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.macrumors.com/2014/02/23/apple-fixing-ssl-bug-other-apps-affected/ | Feb 24 06:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Apple Planning Fix for OS X SSL Bug as New Research Reveals iMessage, Other Apps Affected - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/gosyh ] | Feb 24 06:46 | |
| Sosumi | "planning" | Feb 24 06:46 |
| Sosumi | just like they planned to fix that other itunes bug | Feb 24 06:46 |
| Sosumi | it took them what? 2 years and a half | Feb 24 06:47 |
| Sosumi | how long did it that them to fix the turbo issue with itunes back in 2009? | Feb 24 06:47 |
| Sosumi | after they acknowledged the problem (which at first they didn't) | Feb 24 06:48 |
| Sosumi | 6 months | Feb 24 06:48 |
| Sosumi | crapple, lol | Feb 24 06:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Shell 3.10.4 Brings Support for | Feb 24 07:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | High-Resolution Displays http://t.co/FEddNArAJB | Feb 24 07:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/got75 | Feb 24 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Shell 3.10.4 Brings Support for High-Resolution Displays | Tux Machines | Feb 24 07:32 | |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/petrillic/status/437942007978541058 | Feb 24 08:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrillic: @schestowitz @glynmoody my understanding is they're paying to host their servers closer. This has nothing to do with NN. Akamai does it. | Feb 24 08:52 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/437943046156476417 | Feb 24 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @petrillic @schestowitz I've not seen it explained thus; details matter here... | Feb 24 08:53 | |
| DaemonFC | http://androidandme.com/2014/02/news/nokia-x-family-introduced-as-trio-of-android-based-smartphones/ | Feb 24 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-androidandme.com | Nokia X family introduced as trio of Android-based smartphones | Android and Me [ http://ur1.ca/goto4 ] | Feb 24 08:53 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/23/comcasts-deal-with-netflix-makes-network-neutrality-obsolete/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/02/23/comcasts-deal-with-netflix-makes-network-neutrality-obsolete/ | Feb 24 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Comcast’s deal with Netflix makes network neutrality obsolete [ http://ur1.ca/goto6 ] | Feb 24 08:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft Android | Feb 24 08:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | meh | Feb 24 08:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I quoted you today | Feb 24 08:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | See my post about it this morning | Feb 24 08:54 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://news.techeye.net/business/netflix-caves-into-comcast-on-throttling | Feb 24 08:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.techeye.net | Netflix caves into Comcast on throttling - End of US net-neutrality | TechEye [ http://ur1.ca/gotod ] | Feb 24 08:55 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/conversations?conversation_id=43229 | Feb 24 08:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Diaspora* / Sign in [ http://ur1.ca/4c80w ] | Feb 24 08:55 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "oh - sorry I thought you speak german - - anyway nice posts - I try to read all ---- hahaha ---- thank you for being part of this dispora :-)" | Feb 24 08:55 |
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| msb__ | DaemonFC: How will the TPP kill the software freedom movement? Not saying it won't, I'm just ignorant on it. | Feb 24 09:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/fRyMLoJFQA | Feb 24 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwk | Feb 24 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google may cancel Chromebook subsidies, say | Feb 24 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Taiwan makers http://t.co/8QVucp9GaT | Feb 24 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwm | Feb 24 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wow! Tux Machines IS BAACCCKKKK! | Feb 24 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/FeZuo6GFi8 | Feb 24 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwo | Feb 24 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ford to ditch Microsoft for BlackBerry in cars | Feb 24 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | say insiders http://t.co/P6fBhS65uH | Feb 24 09:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gotwp | Feb 24 09:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 24 09:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google may cancel Chromebook subsidies, say Taiwan makers | Tux Machines | Feb 24 09:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wow! Tux Machines IS BAACCCKKKK! | Tux Machines | Feb 24 09:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ford to ditch Microsoft for BlackBerry in cars say insiders | Tux Machines | Feb 24 09:39 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/keonne/status/437582439607586816 | Feb 24 09:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@keonne: @schestowitz @candtalan Sweet. I just got myself an MSI GS70 wiped off windows 8 and loaded her up with @archlinux - couldn't be happier | Feb 24 09:52 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://twitter.com/gh_geek/status/437961187360530432 | Feb 24 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gh_geek: It only lived in the mind of @selop RT @schestowitz: "Windows Phone is dead" http://t.co/N0WmM7cuWJ | Feb 24 09:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> communities-dominate.blogs.com | Communities Dominate Brands: What Does It Mean that Nokia Launches 3 Smartphones on Android, Now? It means desperation and that Windows Phone is dead | Feb 24 09:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines $629 Blackphone aims to hide you from the NSA | Feb 24 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3ChScj6zpu | Feb 24 10:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gou70 | Feb 24 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $629 Blackphone aims to hide you from the NSA | Tux Machines | Feb 24 10:19 | |
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| abeNd-org | http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/24/5442596/ceo-of-verizon-says-he-expects-netflix-will-sign-deal-to-pay-them-as | Feb 24 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Verizon CEO says he expects Netflix will sign deal to pay them as well | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/govq2 ] | Feb 24 13:38 | |
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| Sosumi | Italian has another appointed prime minister | Feb 24 13:44 |
| Sosumi | *italy | Feb 24 13:44 |
| Sosumi | who promises immediate radical change | Feb 24 13:45 |
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| abeNd-org | how many mistresses? | Feb 24 13:45 |
| Sosumi | isn't there a saying who says that the more things change, the more they stay the same? | Feb 24 13:46 |
| Sosumi | probably one for each day of the week? | Feb 24 13:47 |
| Sosumi | but from as far as I know | Feb 24 13:47 |
| Sosumi | only Berlusconi could pull that | Feb 24 13:47 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 24 13:49 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Feb 24 13:50 |
| abeNd-org | ive given up on any politician ever actually doing anything good for the people they represent | Feb 24 13:50 |
| abeNd-org | the only thing they ever really represent is their own pocketbook | Feb 24 13:51 |
| gde33 | abeNd-org: oh but it isn't so complex, if you can just get the people represented to want something | Feb 24 13:51 |
| Sosumi | but they actually do good for the ppl they represent | Feb 24 13:51 |
| Sosumi | aka their campaign backers | Feb 24 13:51 |
| abeNd-org | sure, the special interests, check writers, etc | Feb 24 13:51 |
| Sosumi | yep | Feb 24 13:52 |
| gde33 | The grand nagus and other ferrengi | Feb 24 13:52 |
| abeNd-org | i think to clean this world up & set it straight, it would actually require one heck of an evil person willing to carry out some nasty stuff | Feb 24 13:52 |
| abeNd-org | someone willing to instantly flip the switch on criminals to erase them, & willing to enforce other laws without backing down | Feb 24 13:53 |
| abeNd-org | someone who doesnt care about political correctness | Feb 24 13:53 |
| abeNd-org | & who doesnt get assassinated :P | Feb 24 13:54 |
| gde33 | then the government funded mercinary armies will come and end everything | Feb 24 13:55 |
| abeNd-org | no need for an army in such a utopia | Feb 24 13:55 |
| gde33 | I know, it is all highly theoretical at that point | Feb 24 13:56 |
| abeNd-org | those left have no need/want/desire/reason to commit crime | Feb 24 13:56 |
| gde33 | lol | Feb 24 13:56 |
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| gde33 | I think I have a good picture how we can at least all agree to progress. | Feb 24 14:01 |
| abeNd-org | if they were gainfully employed, why would they need to commit a crime? | Feb 24 14:01 |
| gde33 | culture | Feb 24 14:01 |
| gde33 | I | Feb 24 14:01 |
| gde33 | 'm not kidding | Feb 24 14:02 |
| abeNd-org | ok, easy, fry them instantly, no second chances | Feb 24 14:02 |
| abeNd-org | obviously that person is no good to society | Feb 24 14:02 |
| abeNd-org | they should no longer exist | Feb 24 14:02 |
| abeNd-org | done | Feb 24 14:02 |
| abeNd-org | next | Feb 24 14:02 |
| gde33 | you are wrong actually | Feb 24 14:02 |
| gde33 | they are just people, the wrong people for the job | Feb 24 14:02 |
| gde33 | to some extend it is our fault they get the job | Feb 24 14:02 |
| abeNd-org | not our fault they choose to commit a crime | Feb 24 14:03 |
| gde33 | they might be guilty as well but lets just fix our end of the mistake | Feb 24 14:03 |
| gde33 | then they become irrelevant | Feb 24 14:03 |
| abeNd-org | im not holding a gun to their head telling them to commit crimes | Feb 24 14:03 |
| abeNd-org | that is their own free will | Feb 24 14:03 |
| gde33 | no you are just putting the wrong guy on the job | Feb 24 14:04 |
| gde33 | then you blame him for being bad at it | Feb 24 14:04 |
| gde33 | you are much more powerful than you think | Feb 24 14:04 |
| abeNd-org | being good or bad at a job has nothing to do with their choice to commit a crime, be bit petty or something like rape/murder | Feb 24 14:05 |
| gde33 | but it isn't abuot them | Feb 24 14:06 |
| abeNd-org | oh thats right, bleeding heart liberal, of course no one has personal responsibility | Feb 24 14:06 |
| *abeNd-org rolls eyes | Feb 24 14:06 | |
| gde33 | I understand you want to get away from what we have as fast as possible, shooting everyone seems a good solution for that. | Feb 24 14:06 |
| gde33 | but it is also an ugly one | Feb 24 14:06 |
| gde33 | no success is guranteed, you could be shooting people for a long time | Feb 24 14:07 |
| abeNd-org | yes, & i already denoted above about it taking one heck of a prolonged "act of evil" to clean humanity up | Feb 24 14:07 |
| gde33 | yeah | Feb 24 14:07 |
| gde33 | that was what i was refering to | Feb 24 14:07 |
| gde33 | I'm not that much in a hurry | Feb 24 14:07 |
| abeNd-org | im sure there are plenty of people who don't qualify for the wastebin of humanity | Feb 24 14:08 |
| gde33 | I think a basic income can be presented so that it makes good sense even to greedy check writers. | Feb 24 14:08 |
| gde33 | just give everyone 700 euro per month, no questions asked. | Feb 24 14:09 |
| gde33 | then decrease all wages by 700 | Feb 24 14:09 |
| abeNd-org | & instantly eliminate criminals | Feb 24 14:10 |
| gde33 | split education into modules as small as possible, give people a permanent raise for every module completed | Feb 24 14:10 |
| gde33 | elliminate crime, reduce healthcare cost etc | Feb 24 14:10 |
| gde33 | but also, cheaper workers, the option to send them home whenever you like, skilled workers sitting at home waiting for you to call for 1/3 day's work. | Feb 24 14:11 |
| gde33 | no need to organise their healthcare or their pension | Feb 24 14:11 |
| abeNd-org | but as you said, you still end up with people committing crime just to do it | Feb 24 14:11 |
| abeNd-org | those people need to be eliminated | Feb 24 14:11 |
| gde33 | crime starts small | Feb 24 14:11 |
| gde33 | we pressure people into the field by not giving them anything at all | Feb 24 14:12 |
| abeNd-org | sure, thats why it would be easy to nip it in the bud before they turn into mass murderers :P | Feb 24 14:12 |
| gde33 | no place to sleep + hunger + no money = fantastic fast learning criminal | Feb 24 14:12 |
| gde33 | learns like a ninja | Feb 24 14:12 |
| gde33 | but we create these people | Feb 24 14:13 |
| abeNd-org | yes, preventative is always better than reactive | Feb 24 14:13 |
| gde33 | it is the egotistical society that makes these people | Feb 24 14:13 |
| abeNd-org | put the infrastructure in for preventative | Feb 24 14:13 |
| gde33 | so we just need to be a bit more generous | Feb 24 14:13 |
| abeNd-org | but if they still choose to commit crimes, then well, g'bye! | Feb 24 14:13 |
| gde33 | you dont design a great society arround crime | Feb 24 14:13 |
| gde33 | crime is not the goal | Feb 24 14:13 |
| gde33 | you do have to address it but it cant be at the core of the argument | Feb 24 14:14 |
| gde33 | or the problem will only be fixed for a while | Feb 24 14:14 |
| gde33 | until the next idiot shows up | Feb 24 14:14 |
| gde33 | if everyone has a guranteed income they can get great credit | Feb 24 14:14 |
| gde33 | the money is guranteed to show up | Feb 24 14:15 |
| gde33 | the national debt is also backed by citizens | Feb 24 14:15 |
| gde33 | if the citizen is a worthless heap of sadness then you also cant borrow against him nationally | Feb 24 14:15 |
| abeNd-org | worthless heap of sadness... sounds like something off dilbert.com :) | Feb 24 14:16 |
| gde33 | I'm pretty funny but not that funny | Feb 24 14:17 |
| gde33 | abeNd-org: but does that make sense? If your system requires evil doers to function? perhaps not so awesome? lol | Feb 24 14:18 |
| gde33 | but imagine the fun if a basic income doesnt cause inflation the way everyone seems to think but actually improves the credit status of the whole country, the organisations and the people in it. | Feb 24 14:20 |
| abeNd-org | just the one in charge,a good person, who is willing to follow through with what today's society would consider bad | Feb 24 14:20 |
| gde33 | abeNd-org: I think Russell Brand figured it out, just use the media to bring the dumbest law to public attention, gather people arround it, then FORCE the politicians to debate the topic, while knowing we know that they know what 70% of the citizens think. | Feb 24 14:24 |
| gde33 | create the proverbial page, put everyone on it and then invite the politician to the discussion, after the decisions are made | Feb 24 14:25 |
| gde33 | then they can do their little show how they side with the public for being reelected | Feb 24 14:25 |
| gde33 | and if they listen properly, then we will vote for them again | Feb 24 14:25 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3683670 | Feb 24 15:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #linux #android f... | Feb 24 15:40 | |
| schestowitz | "The selling point being proprietary software and no physical cover for cameras? Eh..." | Feb 24 15:40 |
| gde33 | I was impressed howmany people are involved in making it all safe :D | Feb 24 15:58 |
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| gde33 | this thing http://basicincome2013.eu | Feb 24 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-basicincome2013.eu | European Citizens' Initiative for an Unconditional Basic Income (UBI) | #basicincome | Feb 24 17:26 | |
| gde33 | they chose to enter the petition before gathering 1 m signatures | Feb 24 17:26 |
| gde33 | as if they didnt understand the game | Feb 24 17:27 |
| gde33 | or wanted to set it up to fail? | Feb 24 17:27 |
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| MinceR | gn | Feb 24 18:29 |
| gde33 | I think a basic income doesnt cause inflation, I think its limit is the point where some jobs wont find employees. Here it seems to provide a tool that forces unwanted jobs out of the market. | Feb 24 18:40 |
| gde33 | each citizen can get an increasing smack of cash until some jobs are not getting done | Feb 24 18:41 |
| gde33 | I imagine people will then try to do those tasks themselves | Feb 24 18:42 |
| gde33 | or increase the pay | Feb 24 18:42 |
| gde33 | I think the value of a currency depends on the ecconomic wealth of the citizens minting it? | Feb 24 18:43 |
| gde33 | can print as much money as you like without devaluing anything | Feb 24 18:44 |
| gde33 | haha! | Feb 24 18:44 |
| MinceR | and you can put them into circulation and then things will get devalued | Feb 24 18:45 |
| gde33 | I dont see why | Feb 24 18:45 |
| gde33 | the US for example already has so much debt | Feb 24 18:46 |
| gde33 | it would hardly add to that | Feb 24 18:46 |
| gde33 | you could look at the large amount of debt as a feature in that way :D | Feb 24 18:46 |
| gde33 | MinceR: things will get cheaper, wages will go down dramatically | Feb 24 18:48 |
| gde33 | minimum wage 0 USD per year | Feb 24 18:48 |
| gde33 | I think it can be done gradually, just enough to increase wages for shitty jobs | Feb 24 18:50 |
| gde33 | if you get 500 bucks just to stay alive a job that would normally pay 800 now pays 300 | Feb 24 18:50 |
| gde33 | it quickly gets dubious if you should be doing a job for 75 per week | Feb 24 18:51 |
| gde33 | a job might be fun enough to do for free, I think we have enough foss examples of that :) | Feb 24 18:53 |
| abeNd-org | yea, if i could afford to, id be probno IT support for all the libraries in my area | Feb 24 18:54 |
| gde33 | the basic income makes running a business so much more fun | Feb 24 18:55 |
| gde33 | always good new people available who work for astronomically low wages until the job is done, then they are happy to go home | Feb 24 18:55 |
| gde33 | almost surreal | Feb 24 18:55 |
| gde33 | no nonsense with pensions and healthcare, can focus entirely on doing business | Feb 24 18:56 |
| gde33 | better a nanny state than a nanny that is also your boss lol | Feb 24 18:57 |
| abeNd-org | it would be great if everyone could not worry about money & just do what they like to do for work | Feb 24 18:57 |
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| abeNd-org | but some people like killing others & would prefer to do that as opposed to anything else | Feb 24 18:58 |
| gde33 | the trick is to make it ecconomically viable | Feb 24 18:58 |
| gde33 | For the more war oriented people there is the factor of a civilian uprising. | Feb 24 18:58 |
| gde33 | this is always a risk | Feb 24 18:58 |
| gde33 | until you just provide for people, then they wont ever bother you ever again | Feb 24 18:59 |
| gde33 | it is not even expensive | Feb 24 18:59 |
| gde33 | if we are the good guys in the war then we should at least try to be the good guys? | Feb 24 18:59 |
| gde33 | fighting for some dictatorship isnt very motivating | Feb 24 19:00 |
| gde33 | us political myhology predicts the enemy will come from inside, like in Alien. | Feb 24 19:01 |
| abeNd-org | only if you deny fatties their hamburgers | Feb 24 19:14 |
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| msb | hello? | Feb 24 19:43 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 24 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | I do hope that Pence runs for president though. | Feb 24 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | 1. He'll lose. | Feb 24 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | 2. It'll shovel some **** out of the Indiana Governor's office. | Feb 24 22:53 |
| DaemonFC | Under Indiana law, he *could* run for governor and president at the same time, but he won't do it because it will make his presidential bid weaker if people see that he's not confident. | Feb 24 22:53 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I kind of wonder why, in the 21st century, I even have to dignify this crap with a response. | Feb 25 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | Without government welfare, the kind of people who gravitate to Fundamentalist Christianity are not smart enough or good enough to do many useful things in the modern world. They breed and they get more welfare. | Feb 25 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | Didn't Hannibal Lecter even say "A rational society would either kill me or find a use for me?". | Feb 25 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | What's their excuse? | Feb 25 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | The least they can do is say thank you for my money and quit oppressing me. They have a name for breeding and burning up government welfare. | Feb 25 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | They call it "draining the beast". | Feb 25 00:54 |
| DaemonFC | err, got the punctuation mixed up.... | Feb 25 00:55 |
| *DaemonFC edits | Feb 25 00:55 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | They're lucky that I don't tell them what I really think, because "**** you and **** your terrorist religion too." is not very polite. | Feb 25 00:56 |
| DaemonFC | Menkaure says: | Feb 25 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | Big business stepped into this one primarily for practical reasons; it's a bad law with potential for disastrous consequences. Basically, any employee could refuse service to any customer on religious grounds; creating a potential PR and customer service nightmare for national retailers located in Arizona. Imagine trying to operate a large supermarket or department store where half your employees are offending and turning away customers with a | Feb 25 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | variety of whackadoodle excuses. | Feb 25 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | Well, at first, the religious kooks will show up to support that business, at least until they run out of other people's money and have to wait until the first of the month again. | Feb 25 01:07 |
| DaemonFC | shared a link. | Feb 25 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/22/1279622/-Mormons-Declare-War-on-Masturbation?detail=facebook | Feb 25 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailykos.com | Mormons Declare War on Masturbation [ http://ur1.ca/gp0c7 ] | Feb 25 01:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Bill Maher already got to this. He read out of one of their old pamphlets from the 70s. | Feb 25 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | "Wear pajamas that are difficult to open." Maher: "Yes, you just go into the store... 'Excuse me? Do you have any pajamas that are difficult to open?'" | Feb 25 01:26 |
| MinceR | fundie "logic": http://i.imgur.com/fHC7JQW.jpg | Feb 25 02:13 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: My favorite is "If women carried guns, they wouldn't be raped." | Feb 25 02:23 |
| MinceR | there's slightly more truth to that one than the fetus one | Feb 25 02:24 |
| DaemonFC | If women started shooting rapists and abortion clinic hecklers, I think we'd have some new gun control laws soon. | Feb 25 02:24 |
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| MinceR | :> | Feb 25 02:24 |
| MinceR | they'd be along the lines of "no guns for women", though... | Feb 25 02:25 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 25 02:26 |
| DaemonFC | at least they couldn't say "If women had guns" anymore. | Feb 25 02:26 |
| MinceR | at the cost of egalitarianism | Feb 25 02:35 |
| msb | DaemonFC: Hello, can you see me? | Feb 25 02:42 |
| msb | freenode is very intermittent | Feb 25 02:43 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 25 02:44 |
| msb | DaemonFC: You said | Feb 25 02:53 |
| msb | DaemonFC: You said TPP would kill software freedom movement. Would you explain that please? | Feb 25 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it would deal a very serious blow to it. | Feb 25 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | Some more than others. | Feb 25 02:55 |
| msb | DaemonFC: How? | Feb 25 02:55 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of free software that clearly violates US patents. | Feb 25 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | I benefit from other countries that don't recognize our patents when I download that software in binary form from their servers. | Feb 25 02:56 |
| msb | You mean for decoding DVDs? | Feb 25 02:56 |
| MinceR | a lot more than that | Feb 25 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | And there's always the possibility that software that didn't seem to violate any patents could be found to be in violation and effectively banned. | Feb 25 02:57 |
| MinceR | patent organizations tend to allow patents for obvious things that many others have used before the patent holder | Feb 25 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | msb: Most of the stuff in RPM Fusion Free is free software that runs afoul of some US law. | Feb 25 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | mostly patent law | Feb 25 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | Nintendo has been very outspoken against emulators that pretend to be old Nintendo consoles. | Feb 25 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | They've been trying to get them declared illegal. | Feb 25 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | Imagine that they got such a law or got a judge in the US to declare Nintendo emulators illegal. | Feb 25 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | But, the TPP made patent violations a potentially criminal offense. | Feb 25 02:58 |
| DaemonFC | So nobody in any country that is a member of the TPP could host a Nintendo emulator. | Feb 25 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's codecs for MPEG video and audio formats. | Feb 25 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | Certain fonts. | Feb 25 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | You'd be left using Fedora the way it has to ship to be compliant with US law. | Feb 25 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | So, there'd be some holes that you couldn't fill by grabbing someone else's RPMs. | Feb 25 03:00 |
| msb | Never heard of rpmfusion, and its website is down! But OK, it's stuff that violates goddamn swpats, font copyrights, codec stuff, etc. | Feb 25 03:02 |
| msb | So this kind of thing would have to be passed around on bittorrent! | Feb 25 03:03 |
| msb | Like movies and music! | Feb 25 03:03 |
| msb | Maybe it would be good for lots of people to be made criminals. | Feb 25 03:05 |
| msb | People would realize that corporations and corporate-controlled governments are out to exploit and control them. | Feb 25 03:05 |
| msb | Bittorrent is now the biggest type of traffic on the Net. | Feb 25 03:06 |
| MinceR | if the fascists turn the internet into a set of walled gardens, i'm not sure if it will still work | Feb 25 03:06 |
| msb | If the pipes still work, clever people may find ways through the walls. | Feb 25 03:07 |
| MinceR | if. | Feb 25 03:07 |
| msb | An alternative would be DIY-net -- wifi webs -- I forget what that's called by OLPCs can do it -- fiber strung between homes, lasers thru little telescopes, etc. | Feb 25 03:09 |
| msb | by--> but | Feb 25 03:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, mesh networking | Feb 25 03:09 |
| msb | right! | Feb 25 03:10 |
| MinceR | that's what people should build, especially in cities | Feb 25 03:10 |
| msb | To do that, and many other things, we need people to wake up. | Feb 25 03:11 |
| msb | Wake up from the programming, like we did in the 1960's revolution. | Feb 25 03:11 |
| msb | Cannabis helped a whole lot. | Feb 25 03:11 |
| msb | It also helps to get off booze, and stop drinking fluoride. | Feb 25 03:11 |
| *MinceR gets fluoride via toothpaste :> | Feb 25 03:12 | |
| msb | Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland, which if healthy produces small amounts of DMT, which makes people imaginative and hard to control. | Feb 25 03:12 |
| msb | fluoride is in toothpaste and most tapwater. | Feb 25 03:12 |
| MinceR | afaik it's not in most tap water outside the US :> | Feb 25 03:13 |
| msb | You can get a distiller for about $160, which makes distilled water for about 40 cents/gallon for the electricity. | Feb 25 03:13 |
| msb | That's good. The US is the center of world fascism. | Feb 25 03:13 |
| msb | Then I add CaCO3 and MgCO3 to the distilled water. Otherwise it slowly dissolves your teeth. | Feb 25 03:14 |
| msb | Fluoride was put in the water in nazi and stalinist prison camps in WWII to make prisoners docile. | Feb 25 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | RMS sent a reply to one of my emails. | Feb 25 03:15 |
| DaemonFC | I sent him a link to a story about Comcast making that deal with Netflix. | Feb 25 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | Netflix pays Comcast money to stop throttling their traffic. | Feb 25 03:16 |
| msb | Yeah, horrible. | Feb 25 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks. | Feb 25 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, Netflix is utterly horrible, and ought to be illegal | Feb 25 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | (since all DRM should be illegal). I agree that Comcast should not | Feb 25 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | be allowed to bully anyone, but we should never mention Netflix | Feb 25 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | without condemning it. | Feb 25 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation 51 Franklin St Boston MA 02110 USA www.fsf.org www.gnu.org Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. | Feb 25 03:16 |
| msb | The decision that non-neutrality is ok because people can always choose another isp is bullshit. | Feb 25 03:17 |
| msb | Here in SF bay area we have Comcrap and ATT and that's all. | Feb 25 03:17 |
| msb | If both start throttling or banning things they don't like, we're fucked. And this is "Silicon Valley"! | Feb 25 03:18 |
| MinceR | msb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fluoridated-water-extent-world.svg | Feb 25 03:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Fluoridated-water-extent-world.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gp0tn ] | Feb 25 03:18 | |
| msb | Or at least it was until most of the jobs went to India. | Feb 25 03:18 |
| msb | MinceR: Great map! Thanks! | Feb 25 03:20 |
| MinceR | np | Feb 25 03:20 |
| msb | Looks like Israel is fluoridated. The second center of world fascism. | Feb 25 03:21 |
| MinceR | also, australia, new zealand and ireland :> | Feb 25 03:21 |
| msb | and Canada | Feb 25 03:22 |
| msb | We're also getting aluminum oxide raining down from the sky from chemtrails. There's no doubt. The govt has patents to do it. | Feb 25 03:26 |
| msb | The nano-sized particles are inhaled, go to the brain, and cause Alzheimer's disease. | Feb 25 03:26 |
| msb | This has been known since the 1990s, when a bunch of kidney patients were dialized using high-aluminum tapwater, and all go t alzheimer's. | Feb 25 03:27 |
| msb | The GMO food also sterilizes test animals or gives them huge cancers in 3 generations. | Feb 25 03:28 |
| msb | The fascists/psychopaths are poisoning our air, food and water. | Feb 25 03:28 |
| msb | People have analyzed what comes down from the air. | Feb 25 03:29 |
| msb | and after major chemtrailing, rain puddles are whitish from Al2O3 | Feb 25 03:30 |
| msb | The vaccines contain mercury and aluminum. | Feb 25 03:30 |
| msb | Mercury, fluorine, and aluminum are all major neurotoxins and they are in the air, food, water, and pharmaceuticals. | Feb 25 03:32 |
| msb | Tbe fascists are doing a War Against Socialism, War Against Consciousness (anti-cannabis, etc, pro-fluoride), and War Against False-Flag Terrorism. | Feb 25 03:37 |
| msb | The Nazis that just took over Ukraine were supported by the US, including Hillary Clinton, who is a neocon. | Feb 25 03:37 |
| msb | The Al-qaeda that are actually the "Syrian dissidents" are supported and armed by the US. | Feb 25 03:38 |
| msb | Anyone listening, or are you dismissing me as a nut? | Feb 25 03:39 |
| msb | BTW, fluoride is sprayed on some fruits and vegetables to kill bugs. | Feb 25 03:43 |
| msb | fuck, I'm talking to about 2 people here, if any. I have to put all this on my website. | Feb 25 03:44 |
| msb | http://aircrap.org | Feb 25 03:48 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 25 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/24/1279989/-No-one-wants-to-drive-out-to-Wal-Mart-stores-anymore | Feb 25 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailykos.com | No one wants to drive out to Walmart stores anymore [ http://ur1.ca/gp1j3 ] | Feb 25 05:14 | |
| DaemonFC | Same store sales growth has turned negative again in the worst comp since the recession. | Feb 25 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | CNBC is now suggesting that Walmart should start closing stores in the United States, beginning with their 100 least profitable ones. | Feb 25 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | To quote the Daily Kos article: | Feb 25 05:14 |
| DaemonFC | "Walmart helped create the low-wage economy and GOP-style anti-government corporatism that is now, ironically, biting it in its ass. But there's more to the retailer's problems than austerity cuts. Fact is, its business model is increasingly an anachronism." | Feb 25 05:14 |
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| msb | Yes, real snow behaves as in the popsci article. But some fake snow doesn't melt after hours at room temperature, and has fibers in it, or so some say. You can't discount everything from a news site just because it has some errors. | Feb 25 06:32 |
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| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438319232682831872 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438319502171070465 | Feb 25 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Mobile World Congress http://t.co/HREtUrVDPk #linux #mwc | Feb 25 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Mobile World Congress | Tux Machines | Feb 25 10:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Mine https://t.co/ZGsEVLrD0v | Feb 25 10:06 | |
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| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438332245192228865 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438340879653568512 | Feb 25 10:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Being Against Crime is Not Being Zealous http://t.co/UEFo9iF6d1 #microsoft #ooxml #odf #theregister | Feb 25 10:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Being Against Crime is Not Being Zealous | Techrights | Feb 25 10:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Response to ODF as Government Standard Proposal http://t.co/lHMQpja1C7 #microsoft #ooxml #odf #uk | Feb 25 10:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Response to ODF as Government Standard Proposal | Techrights | Feb 25 10:53 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/piers-morgan-sacked-from-cnn-twitter-rejoices-as-its-biggest-alist-troll-gets-the-axe-9151961.html | Feb 25 11:31 |
| schestowitz_log_ | "The thing is, when you spend the majority of your social media life terrorising footballers (ask Rio Ferdinand, Gary Lineker and Wayne Rooney for details), starting feuds with other TV personalities (Jeremy Clarkson, Lord Sugar) and slamming transgender activists (Janet Mock), you tend to get a reputation for being a bit of a troll." | Feb 25 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Piers Morgan sacked from CNN: Just how much does Twitter hate its biggest A-list troll? - News - People - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/gp3zo ] | Feb 25 11:31 | |
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| schestowitz_log_ | http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20140224-NEWS-140229851 | Feb 25 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.seacoastonline.com | Hampton set to rethink ‘NSA-like’ IT policy | SeacoastOnline.com [ http://ur1.ca/gp48g ] | Feb 25 12:00 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438350788088569857 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438351060777058304 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438351954453200898 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438353015779889152 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438353211905552384 | Feb 25 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NSA-dodging undersea cable to connect Brazil and EU http://t.co/8cfQQ2Jjqv #eu #samerica | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.co.uk | NSA-dodging undersea cable to connect Brazil and EU (Wired UK) | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Wow, Zuckerface is so hardcore. #nsa is "not awesome.” Just "Good"? http://t.co/Iuj8PpNY4M #facebook #surveillance profiling | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | Mark Zuckerberg at MWC: NSA spying scandal is 'not awesome' but WhatsApp is - News - Gadgets & Tech - The Independent | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Coverage about #android powered #privacy respecting phone http://t.co/eOPOTTBfQ0 phone and Android/Google not compatible w/ privacy | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.co.uk | Don't call it 'NSA-proof': Blackphone is here (hands-on) (Wired UK) | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #privacy proponents just shouldn't use mobile phones http://t.co/oGL1Xk7PCm http://t.co/mus64xIXSH http://t.co/zLYXW68cVf | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.geek.com | Super secure Blackphone details arrive, it’s not exactly NSA proof | Android | Geek.com | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bloomberg.com | Use My Phone, Avoid the NSA, Is Message From Enterpreneur - Bloomberg | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cbc.ca | Anti-NSA Blackphone 'commendable,' but will consumers buy it? - Technology & Science - CBC News | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Think your data is safe in an EU cloud? The NSA will raid your servers http://t.co/y8JlQADcZT don't use "clouds", ever | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Prez Obama cyber-guru: Think your data is safe in an EU cloud? The NSA will raid your servers • The Register | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438353679427850241 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438354187832029184 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438354806244380672 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438355546690039808 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438356148048384000 | Feb 25 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Murdoch's WS-oriented WSJ props up the FBI's Mike Rogers http://t.co/BQVdkaoKeS the bogus debate about who, not if | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blogs.wsj.com | Intelligence Panel Chief Says No Majority to Shift Custody of NSA Data - Digits - WSJ | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New #Snowden Doc Reveals How GCHQ/NSA Use The Internet To 'Manipulate, Deceive And Destroy Reputations' http://t.co/D3uGDyTUwB state trolls | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | New Snowden Doc Reveals How GCHQ/NSA Use The Internet To 'Manipulate, Deceive And Destroy Reputations' | Techdirt | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #gchq tactic: “Set up a honey-trap,” “Change their photos on social networking sites..." http://t.co/46D4t7tIWR "not awesome.” | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.examiner.com | Government infiltrating websites to 'deny, disrupt, degrade, deceive' - National Government | Examiner.com | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Privatising #prism http://t.co/jRO8EWvik5 #microsoft #lync | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dailycaller.com | Microsoft Lync lets employers spy on employees NSA-style | The Daily Caller | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Layton lawmaker's bill held up because it includes tax break for NSA facility http://t.co/62WGhHg0Pw #nsa - no impunity, no tax | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.standard.net | Layton lawmaker's bill held up because it includes tax break for NSA facility | Feb 25 12:04 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438356508481708032 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438356731543171072 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438358449769185280 | Feb 25 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Letter: Between #Snowden and NSA, who's the real criminal? http://t.co/1ij7O4VJYo the press which covered it up, not covered it? | Feb 25 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> cjonline.com | Letter: Between Snowden and NSA, who's the real criminal? | CJOnline.com | Feb 25 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Why #NSA Spying On The German Chancellor's Aides Matters http://t.co/Jst9L7w972 #coldwar #politics | Feb 25 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bustle.com | Bustle | Feb 25 12:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: In the same sense/way that many bosses use browsing history as excuse for firing unwanted employees, NSA uses it to fire at unwanted people | Feb 25 12:06 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438361038531342338 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438361463758282752 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438362046410014721 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438363027994574848 | Feb 25 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is the #CIA Better Than the Military at Drone Killings? http://t.co/zDqSjauO9n #droNSA is covertly picking "targets" | Feb 25 12:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nationaljournal.com | Is the CIA Better Than the Military at Drone Killings? - NationalJournal.com | Feb 25 12:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: U.S., Russia at Odds over Legitimacy in Ukraine http://t.co/ZLt8Kd6O5p two superpowers vying for control under misleading banners | Feb 25 12:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.democracynow.org | Headlines for February 25, 2014 | Democracy Now! | Feb 25 12:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Advocates His Death Warrant http://t.co/kk4dHcAbCb "Obama is notorious for threats to other sovereign leaders" | Feb 25 12:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> patriotpost.us | Obama Advocates His Death Warrant — The Patriot Post | Feb 25 12:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: IBM gobbles CIA-backed NoSQL database upstart #Cloudant http://t.co/lrWLuiy0cI #ibm also pursued the #cia contract #amazon got | Feb 25 12:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | IBM gobbles CIA-backed NoSQL database upstart Cloudant • The Register | Feb 25 12:33 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438363605822894080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438363796445618176 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438364124297592833 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438364788042006528 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438365140724232193 | Feb 25 12:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Abduction and torture by #cia in #europe now approved http://t.co/K4PvpKWH3R how low can we go on human rights? | Feb 25 12:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.reuters.com | Italian former spy chief cleared in CIA rendition case | Reuters | Feb 25 12:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The only #cia man who is in prison over #torture is the man who blew the whistle on illegal CIA torture. | Feb 25 12:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #CIA chief made secret trip to #Pakistan http://t.co/c3tKKTse7O checking the "targets" | Feb 25 12:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> tribune.com.pk | CIA chief made secret trip to Pakistan – The Express Tribune | Feb 25 12:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Letting a nation use its army to kill its own citizens rather than bombing them covertly http://t.co/x8bUODspsk | Feb 25 12:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.niticentral.com | CIA chief made clandestine visit to Pakistan | Niti Central | Feb 25 12:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 'Amazon-CIA deal “has cranked up the basis for massive abuse.”' http://t.co/ruH73sCjje #cia #amazon | Feb 25 12:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mintpressnews.com | Activists Challenge Amazon-CIA Relationship | Feb 25 12:34 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/25/world/americas/in-venezuela-middle-class-joins-protests.html?_r=0 | Feb 25 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/gp4il ] | Feb 25 12:38 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | Help from outside? | Feb 25 12:38 |
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| schestowitz_log_ | "yours dont ask why poor people barrios and places dont are participing in supose strike againt goverment? the internal and international media LIES!!the richiest neighborhood are in strike and protesting ,they are same people who try shut off president hugo chavez by leaders like leopoldo lopez who was a mayors in baruta and capriles also mayor in chacao ,same neighborhood are protesting today ,just the richiest people are prote | Feb 25 12:38 |
| schestowitz_log_ | sting and studients of private university who get paid of U.S.A.I.D by U.S.A GOVERMENT,and others industrial owners in venezuela !! all this people is financial by united state ,the only reason they wanna PETROLEUM FREE!!!" | Feb 25 12:38 |
| schestowitz_log_ | "I think the entirety of your post lacks of actual facts and makes it totally biased. Sure the article might be one-sided but there is a reason behind it: government officials constantly avoid any kind of international public interaction with newspapers like this one, or even CNN. Having said that, I think everybody can agree that the reason that Maduro got to be a president was due the reason Chavez left him as designee. Plain a | Feb 25 12:40 |
| schestowitz_log_ | nd simple. Chavez even though wasn't the best president that pass through Venezuela, he was a leader. | Feb 25 12:40 |
| schestowitz_log_ | My point being is that you cannot say that the students are the ones that the students attacked the police. That is absolutely not true and I challenge you to prove me wrong. There are videos, photos and declarations of what is going on. It is dumb to even mention that it is because of the CIA supporting Leopoldo which has no based and simply not true. | Feb 25 12:40 |
| schestowitz_log_ | I respect people from both sides as long as their comments are not biased. The fact that your comment did not criticized the clear and evident excess of force from the national guards and the police I think makes everything you just said not valid. You are just another biased Chavez supporter who is not willing to see the entire picture. | Feb 25 12:40 |
| schestowitz_log_ | Lastly: 13 deaths and you are simply criticizing the CIA, Leopoldo and The New York Times. I think there is something wrong with this." | Feb 25 12:40 |
| schestowitz_log_ | "If the mainstream media focused the same scrutiny on our allies around the globe as it does our official enemies, people in the USA might understand what's going on in the southern cone of South America and the world. | Feb 25 12:42 |
| schestowitz_log_ | The usual pattern emerges: a govt that succeeds in improving the lot of the poor (as Venezuela has, indisputably), or even a attempts to (as Haiti tried over the last two decades - until the US helped kidnap the democratically elected leader) becomes the object of scorn. | Feb 25 12:42 |
| schestowitz_log_ | A country that overthrows a democratically elected populist (as Honduras did) becomes the recipient of increased US aid - and very little scrutiny by the media." | Feb 25 12:42 |
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| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/02/four-days-in-and-still-no-patch-for-os-x-critical-goto-fail-bug/ | Feb 25 12:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Four days in and still no patch for critical “goto fail” bug in OS X | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gp4no ] | Feb 25 12:58 | |
| Sosumi | I've always said that apple was lax with security | Feb 25 12:58 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3683670 | Feb 25 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #linux #android f... | Feb 25 13:09 | |
| schestowitz | "How Android can protect your privacy ? seriously ? Android is Google ... And Google is one of Big Bros.... And Android has backdoors." | Feb 25 13:09 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: if you have nothing below the belt, then you have nothing to hide | Feb 25 13:09 |
| schestowitz | "^ This is precisely why I don't use stock ROMs in any of my devices. As the saying goes, "better the devil you know"." | Feb 25 13:10 |
| schestowitz | "I have a Nokia N900 with Maemo (Debian Based) managed by the community. apparently no backdoors" | Feb 25 13:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688095 | Feb 25 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Response to ODF a... | Feb 25 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Are there any tools that read - write the full OOXML standard?" | Feb 25 13:10 |
| schestowitz | ECMA OOXML? Not even MS Office (no version). | Feb 25 13:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3687467 | Feb 25 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Tuxmachines is ba... | Feb 25 13:11 | |
| schestowitz | "Tuxmachines is back http://mrpogson.com/2014/02/24/wow-tux-machines-is-baaccckkkk/ thanks to <a data-hovercard='/people/da68a1f811b0f71e' href="/u/schestowitz" class='mention hovercardable' >Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊)</a> :) #linux #opensource" | Feb 25 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Wow! Tux Machines IS BAACCCKKKK! | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/gotwg ] | Feb 25 13:11 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3685447 | Feb 25 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | How #Mozilla Thin... | Feb 25 13:12 | |
| schestowitz | "samsung is backing tizen and Bq is backing ubuntu - fyi. but is it not true that chrome is belting firefox in the browser war? shoudn't be surprised if google did walk away from mozilla." | Feb 25 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Google is willing to pay only less | Feb 25 13:12 |
| schestowitz | "Last I heard, Firefox was beating out Chrome in the numbers. Not by a lot, but still ahead. There was a period where Chrome was growing much faster, and then they just edged out Firefox, but then they dropped and Firefox took a small lead and it's been that way ever since, iirc." | Feb 25 13:13 |
| Sosumi | I have something better than that | Feb 25 13:13 |
| Sosumi | pigeon post | Feb 25 13:14 |
| Sosumi | guaranteed of no backdoors | Feb 25 13:14 |
| Sosumi | literally | Feb 25 13:15 |
| Sosumi | unless someone shoots down the bird | Feb 25 13:15 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 25 13:15 |
| Sosumi | but the issue is with OSX | Feb 25 13:15 |
| Sosumi | while maemo might have been okish | Feb 25 13:17 |
| Sosumi | it doesn't beat a nice laptop with a 3g modem | Feb 25 13:17 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jumpwah/status/438347111889768448 | Feb 25 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jumpwah: @schestowitz "long term preservation of their data", imo is essential. There is simply no argument for OOXML. | Feb 25 13:23 | |
| schestowitz | @jumpwah unless you work for Microsoft and have a mortgage to pay | Feb 25 13:23 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Nyssen11/status/438321852830973952 | Feb 25 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nyssen11: @schestowitz Tizen is a Linux Foundation OS :) | Feb 25 13:23 | |
| schestowitz | Managed by Samsung now | Feb 25 13:24 |
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| MinceR | better than nokia or intel | Feb 25 13:52 |
| MinceR | nokia is a m$ puppet and intel never cared | Feb 25 13:52 |
| Sosumi | fix is out on a service pack just released | Feb 25 14:06 |
| Sosumi | nokia is a MS puppet now | Feb 25 14:06 |
| Sosumi | back then they used to have some of the best phones | Feb 25 14:06 |
| gde33 | that is how the tech era ends | Feb 25 14:07 |
| Sosumi | and with intel there's no alternative to them now on the desktop front | Feb 25 14:08 |
| gde33 | big names buy everything and stomp it until no one wants it anymore while there isn't any alternative | Feb 25 14:08 |
| Sosumi | sparc? power? amd (lol) | Feb 25 14:08 |
| Sosumi | no | Feb 25 14:08 |
| gde33 | it is like the biblical stories about all the knowledge being preserved by 4 guys who died that day lol | Feb 25 14:09 |
| Sosumi | that is called anti-competition | Feb 25 14:09 |
| Sosumi | couple with monopolization | Feb 25 14:09 |
| Sosumi | *coupled | Feb 25 14:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, back when they made the n900 | Feb 25 14:11 |
| MinceR | which was ages ago | Feb 25 14:11 |
| Sosumi | back in 2008 | Feb 25 14:11 |
| Sosumi | before the iphone 3g | Feb 25 14:11 |
| Sosumi | but since I've never used one | Feb 25 14:13 |
| Sosumi | I can't tell if apple copied anything from maemo | Feb 25 14:13 |
| MinceR | what i know is that samsung did the things first for which crApple sued them | Feb 25 14:13 |
| Sosumi | no idea, all I know is that both galaxy phones and the original iphones looked like crap | Feb 25 14:14 |
| Sosumi | these later versions actually look nice | Feb 25 14:15 |
| Sosumi | but kind of can't beat the looks of the htc one | Feb 25 14:15 |
| MinceR | i prefer the looks of the galaxy nexus | Feb 25 14:15 |
| Sosumi | it is all plastic | Feb 25 14:15 |
| MinceR | no, it's not | Feb 25 14:16 |
| MinceR | and even if it was, what does it matter | Feb 25 14:16 |
| Sosumi | plastic with a glass cover? | Feb 25 14:17 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Feb 25 14:17 |
| Sosumi | it does matter, when manufacturers are trowing 5 inches more screens on those things | Feb 25 14:18 |
| Sosumi | the risk of cracking the screen due to some pressure becomes much higher | Feb 25 14:18 |
| Sosumi | the metal makes sure the phone frame doesn't twist | Feb 25 14:19 |
| Sosumi | and it'd look much better than the chromed plastic on the galaxy note or galaxy s4 | Feb 25 14:19 |
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| Sosumi | so for me, htc one wins when it comes to durability | Feb 25 14:20 |
| Sosumi | and if crapple ends up trowing a sapphire glass into the iphone | Feb 25 14:21 |
| Sosumi | they'll also have a very sturdy phone | Feb 25 14:21 |
| MinceR | crApple has a very sturdy phone because nothing you do to it can decrease its functionality | Feb 25 14:21 |
| MinceR | as it starts with none | Feb 25 14:21 |
| MinceR | as for the metal making the phone tougher -- it would be nice to see drop tests confirm that :> | Feb 25 14:22 |
| synchris | even chinese companies make more durable phones see for ex. oppo finder 5 | Feb 25 14:22 |
| Sosumi | I meant it has resisting twists and pressure without cracking the screen | Feb 25 14:22 |
| MinceR | a chinese company makes the hypePhone | Feb 25 14:22 |
| Sosumi | the metal frame will always be better than plastic | Feb 25 14:23 |
| MinceR | and HTC is also based in the republic of china | Feb 25 14:23 |
| synchris | ... | Feb 25 14:23 |
| Sosumi | now if you want a phone without decreased functionality | Feb 25 14:23 |
| Sosumi | there's the nexus 5 | Feb 25 14:23 |
| synchris | if u consider Lenovo chinese for example... | Feb 25 14:23 |
| MinceR | you don't? | Feb 25 14:24 |
| synchris | eh i dont | Feb 25 14:24 |
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| Sosumi | I don't need a phone | Feb 25 14:24 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: well, i like the nexus 5 but not for the look | Feb 25 14:24 |
| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 25 14:24 |
| MinceR | though maybe i'd like it more if i saw it (not just on pictures) | Feb 25 14:24 |
| MinceR | i don't know how well its minimal aesthetics work | Feb 25 14:24 |
| MinceR | hay sebsebseb | Feb 25 14:24 |
| MinceR | then again, i don't choose phones for the looks anyway :> | Feb 25 14:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: hi | Feb 25 14:26 |
| gde33 | we shuold develop a phone for efficient spying | Feb 25 14:30 |
| MinceR | crApple already did that | Feb 25 14:31 |
| MinceR | and so did m$ | Feb 25 14:31 |
| gde33 | send the data straight to the nsa and/or keep it on a server for them depending on their choices | Feb 25 14:31 |
| MinceR | already done | Feb 25 14:31 |
| MinceR | in fact, the functionality can be added to many phones via skype | Feb 25 14:31 |
| gde33 | they already have it but they dont route the packages efficently, in a transparent way | Feb 25 14:32 |
| MinceR | or you could just call and text and let the telco log everything | Feb 25 14:32 |
| MinceR | or use cleartext messaging | Feb 25 14:32 |
| gde33 | forced cleartext | Feb 25 14:33 |
| MinceR | a closed messaging system that doesn't implement encryption | Feb 25 14:34 |
| MinceR | does whatsapp have encryption, for example? | Feb 25 14:34 |
| gde33 | the nudist protocol | Feb 25 14:34 |
| MinceR | also, you could send messages through dumbFuckBook, that too is a direct line to the nsa | Feb 25 14:34 |
| Sosumi | and so did google | Feb 25 14:35 |
| gde33 | I find it easy to have complex ideas but it quickly gets to vague to explain. Success seems to depend on how easy something can be understood. | Feb 25 14:40 |
| gde33 | The trick is to come up with something supper complex that can be understood easily | Feb 25 14:41 |
| gde33 | My best one so far was to create a network of internet people who just agree to -in the future- look at something if at least 100 000 people signed a petition for the something. | Feb 25 14:43 |
| gde33 | you sign up, nothing happens, but eventually generic topics can be brought to the table if there are enough people interested in bringing the topic to the attention. | Feb 25 14:45 |
| gde33 | a plan has to identify a problem, propose a solution, try measure how much work it requires and/or try to put a price tag on it | Feb 25 14:47 |
| gde33 | have the spec for the spec | Feb 25 14:49 |
| MinceR | what is people's basis on which to decide whether to sign? | Feb 25 14:53 |
| Sosumi | wait | Feb 25 14:54 |
| Sosumi | would you rely on the same kind of people that voted Obama in, twice, to make such decisions? | Feb 25 14:54 |
| Sosumi | since your typical ihpone buyer belongs to that demographic | Feb 25 14:55 |
| MinceR | are you saying that the hypePhone is less bad than Obomber? :> | Feb 25 14:55 |
| MinceR | (i haven't even thought of comparing them yet) | Feb 25 14:56 |
| Sosumi | no, I'm saying that you just can't rely on dumb animals to make decisions | Feb 25 14:56 |
| Sosumi | specially, decisions that affect you | Feb 25 14:57 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 25 14:57 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, there's no other option | Feb 25 14:57 |
| Sosumi | or me, personally or the tools that need | Feb 25 14:57 |
| Sosumi | *I | Feb 25 14:58 |
| Sosumi | or might end up needing | Feb 25 14:58 |
| Sosumi | mob rule doesn't work when all the mob does is parrot back what they hear or read | Feb 25 14:58 |
| Sosumi | from the "trusted" news sources without putting some thought into it | Feb 25 14:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3685447 | Feb 25 15:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | How #Mozilla Thin... | Feb 25 15:00 | |
| schestowitz | "I need to confirm sources, but I heard that this time around that it's not just that Firefox is up for it's renewal of the deal, but basically that they'd been told that it was over as of September. I haven't done much research to check this though." | Feb 25 15:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/02/why-should-ukraine-not-split/ | Feb 25 16:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #zdnet is very strong poison. #android devices are now covered by former #microsoft employees there, now pretending to be journalists | Feb 25 16:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 8 Things We Expect from Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) http://t.co/hmE2zvn1vS #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Feb 25 16:18 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google http://t.co/1n2RO9HTZP | Feb 25 16:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Abuses of Rights: News About Surveillance, Torture, and Assassination http://t.co/up5l5CEto4 #technology plays major role here | Feb 25 16:18 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Today in #Techrights http://t.co/yIy6J5dX9s | Feb 25 16:19 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Qt5 To Most Likely Stick With Time-Based Released http://t.co/cro3ur631R #qt5 #qt #kde | Feb 25 16:19 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tizen Smartwatches Tip Samsung's Ecosystem-First Strategy http://t.co/1iLBgYWhTB #tizen #linux | Feb 25 16:19 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Sony launches #Xperia Z2 tablet at #MWC14 http://t.co/6Xy2TYZtPG #sony dumped #windows #vaio and now a #linux backer | Feb 25 16:19 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438423900939358208 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438427933951410177 | Feb 25 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: My Comments as Posted to the UK Cabinet Office Standards Hub (now it's your turn) http://t.co/Ex5pify6HW Andy Updegrove. #odf #uk | Feb 25 16:41 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: War on the poor, not on poverty http://t.co/QsD7zadZA4 the #billgates approach | Feb 25 16:41 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX8K9Yb6ZwA | Feb 25 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 'La-La Land': 'EU doesn't have political capital to spend on Ukraine' - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gp5z0 ] | Feb 25 16:56 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: MakerBot's Creative Revolution Runs on Linux http://t.co/hUOUExgoTU #makerbot #linux | Feb 25 17:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Galaxy S5 revealed in all its glory — launches in April http://t.co/qpTgMbuTF4 #android #linux | Feb 25 17:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Galaxy S5 revealed in all its glory -- launches in April | Muktware | Feb 25 17:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Bullies https://t.co/KnoeHRPHId | Feb 25 17:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Theft https://t.co/1jzXMSf7NC | Feb 25 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: HTC announces Desire 816 and 610 at MWC14 http://t.co/zhUHWtAtE2 #htc #android #linux | Feb 25 17:26 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "IBM believes it's making a safe bet by opening its middleware stack to its SoftLayer Platform-as-a-Service" http://t.co/dFJx4hDIa9 | Feb 25 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | IBM places billion dollar bet on BlueMix PaaS cloud | ZDNet | Feb 25 17:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "installing Ubuntu, or any distro for that matter' http://t.co/D2r3I9MznX so just say #gnu #linux and not headline bait | Feb 25 17:26 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689777 | Feb 25 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Feb 25 17:41 | |
| schestowitz | "It's like they're reading my mind..." | Feb 25 17:41 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689569 | Feb 25 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | "Sony should have launched a PSP tablet for remote play on the PS4 and for playing Vita games. Another missed opportunity." | Feb 25 17:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Can You Survive on a Chromebook Alone? http://t.co/ITn5UIyq7f #google #gnu | Feb 25 17:56 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: A look at Tanglu 1.0 'Aequorea Victoria' GNOME http://t.co/5QWwHmYI44 #gnome #debian #linux | Feb 25 17:56 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Nyssen11/status/438534967912833025 | Feb 26 01:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nyssen11: @schestowitz Managed by the Tizen Association http://t.co/dULCJpzUkN | Feb 26 01:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tizenassociation.org | Tizen Association - | Feb 26 01:18 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689438 | Feb 26 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Stencyl 3.0 Relea... | Feb 26 01:22 | |
| schestowitz | '...or you could use GooCreate which is: Free as in beer for open projects Not distro or os specific Exports to HTML5+JS rather than outdated and proprietary flash format Is just as happy making 3d games as 2d Has a pleasant and modern UI while still also being able to make code free games The only downside is that both Stencyl and GooCreate are proprietary. I really wish that the Gluon project had ended up going more in this direction | Feb 26 01:22 |
| schestowitz | and had survived. Still, until then, GooCreate lets people create FOSS projects using HTML 5 for all platforms for free." | Feb 26 01:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688295 | Feb 26 01:23 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688295 | Feb 26 01:23 |
| schestowitz | <blockquote>“You can become your own mini-NSA,” Event Zero C.E.O. David Tucker said. “Just make sure it doesn’t end up on WikiLeaks.”</blockquote> | Feb 26 01:23 |
| schestowitz | Goes better with Sharepoint. | Feb 26 01:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 26 01:23 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3688216 | Feb 26 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Wow, Zuckerface i... | Feb 26 01:23 | |
| schestowitz | "Why should he care. The IPO is over and he's got his money."" | Feb 26 01:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux snapshot: Pay rates and employers with | Feb 26 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the most job ads http://t.co/fOEcNNnWmd | Feb 26 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0t | Feb 26 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rikomagic MK902 LE is an ARM-based Linux PC | Feb 26 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5v4rSU6sXu | Feb 26 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpa0u | Feb 26 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hello, MS-Android. Good-bye, Windows Phone | Feb 26 03:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/owYFsWZAgW | Feb 26 03:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Reven meets Kickstarter Goal, headed for Linux | Feb 26 03:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux-based platform aims to speed M2M | Feb 26 03:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | development http://t.co/aPdgv87skW | Feb 26 03:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rikomagic MK902 LE is an ARM-based Linux PC | Tux Machines | Feb 26 03:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hello, MS-Android. Good-bye, Windows Phone | Tux Machines | Feb 26 03:11 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based platform aims to speed M2M development | Tux Machines | Feb 26 03:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines AMD Press Talks Up Major Open-Source Linux | Feb 26 03:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver Features http://t.co/B6TnJtdDR2 | Feb 26 03:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Press Talks Up Major Open-Source Linux Driver Features | Tux Machines | Feb 26 03:53 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Feb 26 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | I think that the Microsoft Android is going to be their replacement for Windows Phone. | Feb 26 04:43 |
| DaemonFC | Within the next year, they'll probably announce that Windows Phone is being phased out. | Feb 26 04:44 |
| MinceR | if they can make it suck enough, it can be! | Feb 26 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure it's an improvement over Windows Phone if they have access to Android apps. | Feb 26 04:46 |
| DaemonFC | I wouldn't buy one. | Feb 26 04:47 |
| MinceR | if. | Feb 26 04:47 |
| MinceR | m$'s goal is probably to make android look bad | Feb 26 04:47 |
| MinceR | well, their ui already looks horrendous, so that's partly done | Feb 26 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/Tjwox3Fnlc | Feb 26 05:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Feb 26 05:18 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1294192/What-fizzy-drinks-makes-addictive.html | Feb 26 05:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | What is it about fizzy drinks that makes them so addictive? | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/gpav1 ] | Feb 26 05:21 | |
| DaemonFC | "Lisa McKay used to drink 20 cans of Coke a day" | Feb 26 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | eww | Feb 26 05:21 |
| DaemonFC | Even drinking 1-2 cans a day is not good for you. | Feb 26 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | empty calories | Feb 26 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | not good for your teeth or bones | Feb 26 05:22 |
| DaemonFC | or pancreas | Feb 26 05:23 |
| DaemonFC | or anything, really | Feb 26 05:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 14.04 LTS Now in Feature Freeze | Feb 26 06:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 14.04 LTS Now in Feature Freeze | Tux Machines | Feb 26 06:01 | |
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| Sosumi | best news ever | Feb 26 06:31 |
| Sosumi | http://www.anandtech.com/show/7817/elop-to-lead-devices-and-studios-at-microsoft-this-means-xbox | Feb 26 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | AnandTech | Elop to Lead Devices and Studios at Microsoft: This Means Xbox [ http://ur1.ca/gpbfi ] | Feb 26 06:31 | |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 26 06:31 |
| Sosumi | the guy that wanted to kill the xbox and other hardware | Feb 26 06:31 |
| Sosumi | is going to head that division | Feb 26 06:31 |
| Sosumi | uberwin | Feb 26 06:31 |
| Sosumi | hope he succeeds | Feb 26 06:32 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 26 06:32 |
| MinceR | so do i | Feb 26 06:32 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile in the land of the setting sun | Feb 26 06:33 |
| Sosumi | crapple and its new CEO are still having trouble shipping the trashcans | Feb 26 06:35 |
| Sosumi | it's like they don't want to sell them | Feb 26 06:35 |
| Sosumi | but it is ok | Feb 26 06:35 |
| Sosumi | back when the powermac cube | Feb 26 06:35 |
| Sosumi | they had a huge demand at the beginning | Feb 26 06:36 |
| Sosumi | but then it died out | Feb 26 06:36 |
| Sosumi | as most of the ppl buying the cube were doing so for the design | Feb 26 06:36 |
| Sosumi | and I see the same repeating with the trashcan pro | Feb 26 06:37 |
| Sosumi | but the problem this time is that they're not meeting the initial demand | Feb 26 06:37 |
| Sosumi | meaning | Feb 26 06:37 |
| Sosumi | the next time they refresh | Feb 26 06:37 |
| Sosumi | they'll probably overstock in order to prevent delays | Feb 26 06:38 |
| Sosumi | but now given that the initial demand is gone and so are the typical mac pro users | Feb 26 06:38 |
| MinceR | what happened to them? | Feb 26 06:38 |
| MinceR | moved to hypePads? | Feb 26 06:39 |
| Sosumi | they'll be sitting on a couple of trashcans that don't sell | Feb 26 06:39 |
| Sosumi | no | Feb 26 06:39 |
| Sosumi | moved to hp Z workstations, dell precisions and so on | Feb 26 06:39 |
| MinceR | strange | Feb 26 06:39 |
| Sosumi | why? | Feb 26 06:39 |
| MinceR | because those don't have the logo they covet :> | Feb 26 06:40 |
| Sosumi | they do the job in order to pay the bills | Feb 26 06:40 |
| Sosumi | I think that is what matters in the end | Feb 26 06:40 |
| Sosumi | plus | Feb 26 06:40 |
| MinceR | yes, to you and me | Feb 26 06:40 |
| Sosumi | they run exactly the same software, better | Feb 26 06:40 |
| MinceR | but we're not typical crApple users | Feb 26 06:40 |
| Sosumi | the typical crapple user didn't buy towers like the mac pro | Feb 26 06:42 |
| Sosumi | they bought laptops or the imacs | Feb 26 06:42 |
| Sosumi | just picture yourself as a mactard | Feb 26 06:43 |
| Sosumi | and then look at the clutter of cables and the need to open the mac pro cover in order to pull in hdd/ssd, cards, etc | Feb 26 06:43 |
| Sosumi | way too many options | Feb 26 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.9 review – KDE and Xfce desktops | Feb 26 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/s8e05MEtAJ | Feb 26 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpbjn | Feb 26 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Different strokes for different folks when it | Feb 26 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | comes to Linux desktops http://t.co/AC3yGJpHBI | Feb 26 06:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/gpbjp | Feb 26 06:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 0.8.9 review – KDE and Xfce desktops | Tux Machines | Feb 26 06:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Different strokes for different folks when it comes to Linux desktops | Tux Machines | Feb 26 06:44 | |
| Sosumi | mactards like "clean", minimalistic, kewl looking craps | Feb 26 06:45 |
| Sosumi | neither the mac pro tower nor the xserve, alongside the supporting software fitted that new paradigm crapple is following now | Feb 26 06:46 |
| Sosumi | nor was crapple anymore keeping up with windows and gnu/linux alternatives | Feb 26 06:47 |
| Sosumi | so everyone that actually needed those things | Feb 26 06:47 |
| Sosumi | bailed out | Feb 26 06:47 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 26 06:48 |
| MinceR | nobody but a mactard would want a crApple product | Feb 26 06:48 |
| MinceR | overpriced garbage with no customization, no flexibility and an idiot-oriented stupid OS | Feb 26 06:48 |
| MinceR | and often low quality | Feb 26 06:48 |
| Sosumi | I have to disagree on that front | Feb 26 06:49 |
| Sosumi | their offerings up to 2009 were quite good | Feb 26 06:49 |
| Sosumi | and I loved the educational discounts | Feb 26 06:49 |
| MinceR | then we'll just disagree :> | Feb 26 06:49 |
| MinceR | oh, also a retarded and hostile approach to their customers | Feb 26 06:50 |
| MinceR | which started with assuming that they were all idiots | Feb 26 06:50 |
| MinceR | which was a self-fulfilling prophecy :> | Feb 26 06:50 |
| Sosumi | notice that when I mention their offerings | Feb 26 06:51 |
| Sosumi | I just mean the mac pro and the xserve | Feb 26 06:51 |
| Sosumi | nothing else | Feb 26 06:51 |
| Sosumi | no overheating macbooks | Feb 26 06:51 |
| Sosumi | nor imacs nor their plastic laptops | Feb 26 06:51 |
| MinceR | or self-igniting power connectors? | Feb 26 06:51 |
| Sosumi | indeed | Feb 26 06:51 |
| MinceR | or cracked touchpads? | Feb 26 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that the Mac Mini does not support DVI anymore. | Feb 26 06:52 |
| MinceR | or displays that did not have the panels crApple claimed they did? :> | Feb 26 06:52 |
| Sosumi | their using mini display port and forcing everyone to buy an adaptor | Feb 26 06:52 |
| MinceR | or self-melting "computers" like the crApple III? :> | Feb 26 06:52 |
| Sosumi | no idea of what an apple 2 or 3 is | Feb 26 06:53 |
| MinceR | home computers | Feb 26 06:53 |
| MinceR | the apple 2 had a good reputation, and i can't really know how much that had to do with reality | Feb 26 06:54 |
| MinceR | considering that it's apple | Feb 26 06:54 |
| Sosumi | did pre nextstep acquisition apple have computers? | Feb 26 06:54 |
| MinceR | but i know that apple 3s were so crap apple had people drop them on the ground to try and reseat chips or cards | Feb 26 06:54 |
| Sosumi | I though those were fancy toasters | Feb 26 06:54 |
| MinceR | well, they had the usual idiot boxes | Feb 26 06:54 |
| MinceR | both before and after | Feb 26 06:54 |
| MinceR | i don't see a change there :> | Feb 26 06:55 |
| MinceR | and i doubt they were particularly useful as toasters either | Feb 26 06:55 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 26 06:55 |
| Sosumi | talking of the devil | Feb 26 07:07 |
| Sosumi | http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HP+Z820+Teardown/22396 | Feb 26 07:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ifixit.com | HP Z820 Teardown - iFixit [ http://ur1.ca/gpbov ] | Feb 26 07:07 | |
| MinceR | noufixit.com | Feb 26 07:08 |
| Sosumi | too bad it doesn't allow 4 dual slot cards | Feb 26 07:08 |
| Sosumi | like the high end asus boards do | Feb 26 07:09 |
| MinceR | oh, i used a similar hp box | Feb 26 07:09 |
| Sosumi | including their dual cpu model | Feb 26 07:09 |
| MinceR | at work :> | Feb 26 07:09 |
| Sosumi | we have the 2009 and 2010 revs at my university | Feb 26 07:09 |
| MinceR | but i never saw the insides | Feb 26 07:09 |
| Sosumi | and they all kind of look exactly the same | Feb 26 07:10 |
| Sosumi | the only difference with the ones we have | Feb 26 07:11 |
| Sosumi | is that the ram slots are all on top | Feb 26 07:11 |
| Sosumi | but still nice, too bad the slot displacement doesn't allow for 4 gpus/compute cards | Feb 26 07:12 |
| Sosumi | since dual cpu models allow for four 16x pcie slots | Feb 26 07:13 |
| Sosumi | foxcomm also appears to be the manufacturer or at least a part supplier | Feb 26 07:15 |
| Sosumi | http://www.asus.com/pt/Commercial_Servers_Workstations/Z9PED8_WS/ | Feb 26 07:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.asus.com | Servidores & Workstations - Z9PE-D8 WS [ http://ur1.ca/gpbqz ] | Feb 26 07:17 | |
| Sosumi | that one in a cosmos s2 box or the top of the line corsair box | Feb 26 07:18 |
| Sosumi | would make the ultimate workstation | Feb 26 07:18 |
| Sosumi | also the hp board is using lower grade capacitors | Feb 26 07:21 |
| Sosumi | no rubycon or nippon chemi | Feb 26 07:21 |
| Sosumi | managed to spot a capxon | Feb 26 07:21 |
| Sosumi | which is a second grade manufacturer | Feb 26 07:22 |
| Sosumi | and delta manufactured psu | Feb 26 07:50 |
| Sosumi | same has the quad g5, 2009/2010 mac pros | Feb 26 07:50 |
| Sosumi | but at least crapple was using better capacitors | Feb 26 07:51 |
| Sosumi | typically sanyo denki and nippon chemi | Feb 26 07:51 |
| Sosumi | in the end, the z800 is just manufactured to be as cheap as possible | Feb 26 07:53 |
| Sosumi | with the best way to go being custom build | Feb 26 07:53 |
| Sosumi | so far | Feb 26 07:53 |
| Sosumi | haven't seen a lenovo or dell precision inside | Feb 26 07:53 |
| Sosumi | yet | Feb 26 07:53 |
| MinceR | considering the uefi fuckup and the m$ tax, it's probably best to go with a custom build if it doesn't have to be mobile | Feb 26 07:59 |
| MinceR | (mobile as in laptop/tablet pc/tablet/phone whatever) | Feb 26 08:00 |
| Sosumi | you can get rhel instead from windows | Feb 26 08:01 |
| Sosumi | from both hp and dell | Feb 26 08:01 |
| Sosumi | no idea about lenovo | Feb 26 08:01 |
| Sosumi | also even that asus board I linked | Feb 26 08:01 |
| Sosumi | has efi | Feb 26 08:01 |
| MinceR | that can be a nice option when it's given | Feb 26 08:02 |
| MinceR | then again, i wonder if they still have the "m$ gets paid per cpu sold even if it isn't sold with winblows" racket going :> | Feb 26 08:05 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Feb 26 08:06 |
| Sosumi | but given the components used, warranties and everything | Feb 26 08:06 |
| Sosumi | I'd say custom build has the higher end | Feb 26 08:06 |
| Sosumi | *higher hand | Feb 26 08:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 30 Big Companies and Devices Running on | Feb 26 08:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNU/Linux http://t.co/CKjVyDSwU7 | Feb 26 08:17 |
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| msb | Sosumi: About 18 hours ago, you said "with intel there's no alternative to them now on the desktop front ... amd (lol)" Are AMD CPUs no longer a good alternative to Intel? Why not? I've always used AMD, because Intel has done various evil things. | Feb 26 08:45 |
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| msb | Sosumi: Is AMD now far behind Intel in CPU performance? | Feb 26 08:52 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3691732 | Feb 26 08:52 |
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| schestowitz | "https://joindiaspora.comManjaro Linux with the XFCE desktop it's my favorite GNU/Linux distribution. Just few times arrive I are a little conflict with the package. It's easy solve it with the terminal console, just this affraid the beginners. In french I write this article about this distribution: http://libre-city.tk/blog/?p=1089 "/posts/3691732 | Feb 26 08:53 |
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| schestowitz | Sosumi: good news about Elop depending on your POV | Feb 26 08:56 |
| schestowitz | I don't know if it's good news | Feb 26 08:56 |
| schestowitz | depends on one's assessment of what goes on with Nokia next | Feb 26 08:57 |
| schestowitz | And also: | Feb 26 08:57 |
| schestowitz | if you don't mind being proven right that he was a malicious tool | Feb 26 08:57 |
| schestowitz | For passing patents, giving the car keys to Ballmer, etc. | Feb 26 08:57 |
| Sosumi | if Elop carries on with what he was saying | Feb 26 09:06 |
| Sosumi | during the "CEO" race | Feb 26 09:07 |
| Sosumi | xbox and other gadgets will be goner | Feb 26 09:07 |
| Sosumi | and amd can hardly compete with intel now in performance | Feb 26 09:07 |
| Sosumi | their latest 15 core xeon managed to beat a power 7 in some benches | Feb 26 09:08 |
| msb | Sosumi: If I want a cpu for a desktop, and want to pay about $200 to 300 for it, how do AMD and Intel CPUs compare? | Feb 26 09:26 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core | Feb 26 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cpubenchmark.net | PassMark CPU Lookup [ http://ur1.ca/gpclw ] | Feb 26 09:30 | |
| Sosumi | at low end amd wins | Feb 26 09:30 |
| msb | Sosumi: I want (almost) the best performance per price at the $2-300 level, but if the AMD is 10% slower than the Intel I'd still choose intel. | Feb 26 09:30 |
| msb | Sosumi: I want (almost) the best performance per price at the $2-300 level, but if the AMD is 10% slower than the Intel I'd still choose AMD. | Feb 26 09:30 |
| msb | Sosumi: Great! Many thanks! | Feb 26 09:33 |
| Sosumi | for what? | Feb 26 09:33 |
| msb | For this info | Feb 26 09:34 |
| msb | Wow, 8 cores. I can rule the world! | Feb 26 09:34 |
| Sosumi | lol | Feb 26 09:34 |
| Sosumi | also the fx-9590 | Feb 26 09:36 |
| Sosumi | haven't seen that on sale anywhere | Feb 26 09:36 |
| MinceR | no ARM cores listed :/ | Feb 26 09:36 |
| Sosumi | the fx-8350 is what everyone still has around here | Feb 26 09:37 |
| Sosumi | which makes me wander if amd has payed for enough fab capacity to supply cpus worldwide | Feb 26 09:38 |
| Sosumi | and not just some specific countries | Feb 26 09:38 |
| msb | Sosumi: Do compute-intensive Linux programs, like for converting xvid videos to x264 to save disk space, take advantage of 8 cores? | Feb 26 09:38 |
| Sosumi | handbrake, from what I know, does | Feb 26 09:39 |
| Sosumi | even more | Feb 26 09:39 |
| Sosumi | than 8 | Feb 26 09:39 |
| msb | Great! | Feb 26 09:39 |
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| msb | I have various xvid movies, and converting them to 264 would save about half the disk space. | Feb 26 09:44 |
| MinceR | it would result in additional loss of detail | Feb 26 09:45 |
| msb | I hope the inevitable increase in fuzziness would not be noticeable. | Feb 26 09:45 |
| MinceR | most likely | Feb 26 09:45 |
| msb | yeah | Feb 26 09:46 |
| MinceR | almost any lossy->lossy conversion is itself lossy | Feb 26 09:46 |
| msb | right | Feb 26 09:46 |
| msb | I have a few movies as vobs, but not many. | Feb 26 09:46 |
| msb | Oh well, there goes my reason for upgrading my 'puter. | Feb 26 09:47 |
| msb | Keeping Firefox from using too much CPU seems to have stopped the crashing involving the Nvidia display driver. | Feb 26 09:48 |
| msb | Maybe the recent Firefox updates have started using up something the driver has a limited supply of. | Feb 26 09:49 |
| msb | So I've been limiting the total number of firefox tabs to keep the cpu usage low. | Feb 26 09:49 |
| MinceR | NoScript can also help with that | Feb 26 09:50 |
| MinceR | and to a lesser degree, RefreshBlocker | Feb 26 09:50 |
| msb | NoScript kills javascript? | Feb 26 09:51 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 26 09:51 |
| MinceR | it can be set up to only allow the javascript that's absolutely necessary to use the page | Feb 26 09:51 |
| msb | How do it know? | Feb 26 09:51 |
| MinceR | you tell it which domains to allow | Feb 26 09:52 |
| MinceR | and whether for the rest of the session, or forever | Feb 26 09:52 |
| MinceR | though sometimes i just disable CSS to get the obstructions out of the way rather than allow the scripts that enable the close buttons and suc | Feb 26 09:52 |
| MinceR | h | Feb 26 09:52 |
| MinceR | i use Web Developer for that, alt+shift+a disables CSS | Feb 26 09:52 |
| msb | I think FF cyclically patrols all the tabs, so the more you have, the more cpu it uses. | Feb 26 09:53 |
| MinceR | dunno | Feb 26 09:54 |
| MinceR | but i'm pretty sure that javascript and refreshes running in the background are going to use cpu | Feb 26 09:54 |
| msb | Like I have about 80 tabs in 3 windows now, and the cpu usage is kinda humpy and running about 30% of cpu capacity. | Feb 26 09:57 |
| msb | The humps are about 2 seconds apart. | Feb 26 09:57 |
| msb | If it gets to twice that much usage, FF can crash. That's ok, because restarting it brings back everything as it was. But in the last 2 months KDE3 has been crashing with error messages from the display driver, and FF may be the cause. | Feb 26 10:00 |
| msb | Do many web pages auto-refresh? Other than, e.g., weather reports. | Feb 26 10:02 |
| MinceR | 'news' sites love their autorefresh | Feb 26 10:02 |
| msb | Ah. | Feb 26 10:02 |
| MinceR | they sometimes rip the page out from under me when i'm reading it | Feb 26 10:03 |
| MinceR | and if i have no connectivity, suddenly i get an error page | Feb 26 10:03 |
| MinceR | first i hoped noscript would stop the madness, but it didn't | Feb 26 10:03 |
| MinceR | then i found RefreshBlocker and now the idiocy is contained :> | Feb 26 10:03 |
| msb | Pages with flash use a lot of cpu. So I routinely kill the flash container. It comes back when I refresh a flash page. | Feb 26 10:05 |
| msb | In all the generations of Firefox, I've always had a desktop devoted to dealing with its problems. | Feb 26 10:06 |
| MinceR | i tend to disable the flash plugin in my main firefox profile | Feb 26 10:07 |
| MinceR | though this is probably from the time when flash crashed more often and occasionally took the browser with itself | Feb 26 10:07 |
| msb | I want it for youtube. | Feb 26 10:07 |
| MinceR | i have a separate profile for flash | Feb 26 10:07 |
| MinceR | and for when i don't want to hunt domains to find out what scripts the damn page needs to work :> | Feb 26 10:08 |
| MinceR | i also have a script to kill all flash instances, in case it goes out of control :> | Feb 26 10:08 |
| msb | I have a script called kp which does -- killall plugin-container | Feb 26 10:09 |
| msb | That kills flash. | Feb 26 10:09 |
| msb | I think flash crashes killing the browser is why they put in the plugin-container. | Feb 26 10:12 |
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| msb | milspec components 8^) | Feb 26 17:22 |
| msb | So far I haven't been able to find a page from a Linux user running that mobo and the FX-8350 cpu. Google ignores the word "linux" even if I put it first in the search line. It's those goddamned reptilians I tell you! | Feb 26 17:25 |
| msb | There are OK reports of Linux, that mobo, and lower AMD CPUs. | Feb 26 17:26 |
| MinceR | what if you prepend the + operator, as in +linux ? | Feb 26 17:26 |
| msb | What does that do? | Feb 26 17:26 |
| MinceR | it requires that that word appear in the results | Feb 26 17:26 |
| MinceR | (AND instead of OR) | Feb 26 17:26 |
| MinceR | at least i think that the docs say that's what it does | Feb 26 17:26 |
| msb | I thought it was always supposed to be AND! | Feb 26 17:27 |
| MinceR | i think it's not quite boolean | Feb 26 17:27 |
| MinceR | it's some sort of fuzzy thing | Feb 26 17:27 |
| msb | yeah, that fits with what I'm seeing | Feb 26 17:27 |
| msb | Yay, it worked! Thanks MinceR! Only 4 hits now, this is a good one: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/363365-28-asus-sabertooth-990fx-8350-build-notes-success | Feb 26 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0, AMD 8350 Build - My Notes for Success - AMD - Components [ http://ur1.ca/gpgfe ] | Feb 26 17:30 | |
| MinceR | np | Feb 26 17:32 |
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| XFaCE | yo schestowitz__ | Feb 26 17:59 |
| msb | my current cpu is 1285 pathmark | Feb 26 18:03 |
| schestowitz__ | XFaCE: hey, what;s up? | Feb 26 18:04 |
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| icecrawler | hey msb_ | Feb 27 00:57 |
| icecrawler | hey DaemonFC | Feb 27 00:57 |
| DaemonFC | hello | Feb 27 01:29 |
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| msb | hi icecrawler | Feb 27 01:53 |
| msb | My family came from Ukraine, and now it's been taken over by Nazis. | Feb 27 01:54 |
| msb | Nazis backed by the US, including Hillary Clinton. | Feb 27 01:55 |
| MinceR | so the nazis backed by the us defeated the nazis backed by russia? :> | Feb 27 02:03 |
| msb | http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-and-the-politics-of-anti-semitism-west-upholds-neo-nazi-repression-of-ukraines-jewish-community/5370790 | Feb 27 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Ukraine and the “Politics of Anti-Semitism”: The West Upholds Neo-Nazi Repression of Ukraine’s Jewish Community | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gpjys ] | Feb 27 02:34 | |
| msb | http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukrainian-neo-nazis-declare-that-power-comes-out-of-the-barrels-of-their-guns/5371126 | Feb 27 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Ukrainian Neo-Nazis Declare that Power Comes Out of the Barrels of their Guns | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/gpjzg ] | Feb 27 02:36 | |
| msb | http://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/23/neocons-and-the-ukraine-coup/ | Feb 27 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-consortiumnews.com | Neocons and the Ukraine Coup | Consortiumnews [ http://ur1.ca/gpjzk ] | Feb 27 02:37 | |
| msb | MinceR: How is the elected government that has now been overthrown, that was backed by Russia, Nazis? | Feb 27 02:38 |
| MinceR | not sure, perhaps by analogy to the hungarian nazi government :> | Feb 27 02:39 |
| msb | How was the hungarian govt nazis? | Feb 27 02:39 |
| MinceR | they're nationalists and they follow the same methods as the earlier "socialist" dictatorship, so they're national socialists, therefore nazis | Feb 27 02:40 |
| msb | It's wrong to use the term "nazi" to mean "authoritarian". | Feb 27 02:40 |
| MinceR | they also seem to fit the "third way" wikipedia connects with nazis | Feb 27 02:40 |
| msb | The nazis were not socialists. | Feb 27 02:40 |
| msb | They used that word in their name to deceive people. | Feb 27 02:40 |
| MinceR | same with the commies | Feb 27 02:40 |
| MinceR | the commies never wanted the people to have power, control or freedom | Feb 27 02:41 |
| MinceR | they never wanted to reduce the differences in wealth | Feb 27 02:41 |
| msb | Some did and some didn't. | Feb 27 02:41 |
| MinceR | they just wanted to have it all for themselves | Feb 27 02:41 |
| MinceR | and the ones that didn't were few and were sidelined or murdered | Feb 27 02:41 |
| msb | How about Ho Chi Minh? | Feb 27 02:42 |
| MinceR | dunno | Feb 27 02:42 |
| msb | Nazis serve corporations and wealthy people. | Feb 27 02:43 |
| MinceR | in all authoritarian governments, the wealth concentrates in a small group | Feb 27 02:43 |
| MinceR | it hardly matters if they deny it or not and what they call it | Feb 27 02:43 |
| msb | Stalinist Communists were authoritarian, but did not serve corporations. | Feb 27 02:43 |
| MinceR | like when commies claim that everything belongs to the people by which they mean that everything belongs to the state which they own | Feb 27 02:44 |
| msb | There are certainly socialist governments that are not authoritarian. | Feb 27 02:44 |
| MinceR | well, our commie dictatorship was authoritarian | Feb 27 02:44 |
| msb | in Hungary? | Feb 27 02:44 |
| MinceR | and our nazi dictatorships were/are authoritarian as well | Feb 27 02:44 |
| MinceR | yup | Feb 27 02:44 |
| msb | But that doesn't mean they are/were the same. | Feb 27 02:44 |
| MinceR | and most of the fidesz leaders come from mszmp, the commie state party | Feb 27 02:45 |
| MinceR | yeah, the colors and symbols are different | Feb 27 02:45 |
| MinceR | and everybody claims they're different | Feb 27 02:45 |
| msb | The politics and allies are different. | Feb 27 02:45 |
| MinceR | because being oppressed with different colors, symbols and words is just so great | Feb 27 02:45 |
| MinceR | allies change all the time | Feb 27 02:45 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if the politics really are different | Feb 27 02:45 |
| msb | For example, the socialist govt of Afghanistan was muc better for people than the Taliban, which was installed by the US via the mujanhideen, aka al-qaeda. | Feb 27 02:46 |
| msb | For example, the socialist govt of Afghanistan was much better for people than the Taliban, which was installed by the US via the mujahideen, aka al-qaeda. | Feb 27 02:47 |
| msb | The socialist govt of Nicaragua has been reelected. | Feb 27 02:47 |
| msb | What is fidesz? | Feb 27 02:48 |
| MinceR | one of the hungarian fundie nazi parties | Feb 27 02:48 |
| MinceR | the one that currently owns the country | Feb 27 02:48 |
| msb | Not good. | Feb 27 02:48 |
| MinceR | it has a vestigial ally called kdnp, who were always christian in name and had the ideology fidesz hid before | Feb 27 02:49 |
| MinceR | and there's jobbik, which many people believe is different, even though their only problem is that they're not in the velvet seats. | Feb 27 02:49 |
| msb | Hopefully you are not there anymore? | Feb 27 02:50 |
| MinceR | fidesz and kdnp are also members of the "european people's party" who still haven't kicked them out yet | Feb 27 02:50 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, i'm still here but i'm planning to leave | Feb 27 02:50 |
| msb | I can't suggest that you come to the US, because our govt has made preparations for a total fascist takeover. | Feb 27 02:51 |
| MinceR | indeed. | Feb 27 02:52 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, the whole planet seems to be going to shit | Feb 27 02:52 |
| MinceR | even countries i thought were doing all right are doing some horrible things | Feb 27 02:52 |
| msb | I think Russia is the best hope we have, even though Putin is afraid of Pussy. | Feb 27 02:53 |
| MinceR | nope | Feb 27 02:53 |
| MinceR | russia is authoritarian and fundamentalist | Feb 27 02:53 |
| msb | But not nazi. | Feb 27 02:53 |
| MinceR | they locked pussy riot up because they dared insult the cult that russia loves so much now | Feb 27 02:53 |
| msb | They chased out the oligarchs. | Feb 27 02:53 |
| MinceR | are you sure? | Feb 27 02:53 |
| MinceR | i doubt putin is running the show all by himself | Feb 27 02:54 |
| MinceR | hungary has its oligarchs too | Feb 27 02:54 |
| msb | The russians certainly got rid of some of them. They went to Israel. | Feb 27 02:54 |
| MinceR | getting rid of the oligarchs of the opposition is not "getting rid of the oligarchs" | Feb 27 02:55 |
| MinceR | it's a power grab. | Feb 27 02:55 |
| MinceR | trying to paint it in a good light is like when hungarian commies claim that when the russians took over from the germans, it was "liberation" | Feb 27 02:55 |
| msb | Oligarchs is the term for ultrawealthy capitalists. | Feb 27 02:55 |
| MinceR | when it was merely one master taking the slaves away from the other | Feb 27 02:55 |
| MinceR | yes, so? | Feb 27 02:55 |
| msb | They were controlling big industries and taking the profits that should have gone to the people or at least to the govt. | Feb 27 02:56 |
| msb | Not everything in the world happens the way it did in Hungary. | Feb 27 02:57 |
| MinceR | do you really believe that someone who owns most of a country can be not wealthy? | Feb 27 02:57 |
| msb | By definition they are, but who are you talking about, Putin? | Feb 27 02:57 |
| MinceR | putin and his pals | Feb 27 02:58 |
| MinceR | for example | Feb 27 02:58 |
| MinceR | also, orban and his pals | Feb 27 02:58 |
| MinceR | kadar and his fellow commies | Feb 27 02:58 |
| msb | They are the govt, and control the country, but they don't own it. | Feb 27 02:58 |
| MinceR | how so? | Feb 27 02:58 |
| msb | Isn't Kadar long dead? | Feb 27 02:58 |
| MinceR | yes he is | Feb 27 02:58 |
| MinceR | his legacy remains | Feb 27 02:58 |
| MinceR | and some of his buddies do too | Feb 27 02:59 |
| MinceR | and hungarian idiots idolize him | Feb 27 02:59 |
| msb | US idiots idolize Obama because he's black and "Democratic" Party, even though he is a fascist. | Feb 27 03:00 |
| msb | Who is/was Orban? | Feb 27 03:00 |
| MinceR | former secretary of the communist youth organisation, KISZ; currently president of fidesz | Feb 27 03:01 |
| MinceR | and dictator of hungary | Feb 27 03:01 |
| msb | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Orb%C3%A1n | Feb 27 03:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Viktor Orbán - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/gpk4r ] | Feb 27 03:02 | |
| msb | Wiki couldn't even find a picture of him smiling. | Feb 27 03:03 |
| MinceR | he doesn't deserve one | Feb 27 03:03 |
| msb | People are pretty happy in socialist Cuba and Nicaragua, and socialist Vietnam seems to be improving -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam | Feb 27 03:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Feb 27 03:06 | |
| MinceR | who says so, their government? | Feb 27 03:07 |
| MinceR | and if you love cuba so much, why don't you move there? | Feb 27 03:07 |
| msb | There have been various movies made in Cuba by Americans. | Feb 27 03:07 |
| MinceR | after all, you won't mind if the government doesn't allow you to have an internet connection | Feb 27 03:07 |
| MinceR | apparently that doesn't matter to commies | Feb 27 03:07 |
| msb | Cuba is in great danger from the US govt. That's why it is somewhat authoritarian. | Feb 27 03:08 |
| msb | Being able to share things like farm tractors is a great advantage. Cuba also has very good health care. | Feb 27 03:09 |
| MinceR | yeah, that's a great excuse to live in oppression | Feb 27 03:09 |
| msb | The US has dropped viruses and insect pests on Cuba from airplanes. | Feb 27 03:09 |
| msb | And financed anti-govt political parties. | Feb 27 03:10 |
| msb | And of course it maintains an embargo in which no company that deals with Cuba can do business with the US. Extremely evil. | Feb 27 03:10 |
| msb | The US govt is run by ultra-wealthy psychopaths. Its foreign policy has always been to destroy socialism everywhere, no matter how democratic it is. | Feb 27 03:11 |
| msb | Socialism is bad for the profits of the ultrawealthy that run the US govt. | Feb 27 03:12 |
| msb | US ultrawealthy businessmen financed Hitler. http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis | Feb 27 03:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Feb 27 03:13 | |
| msb | They did it so he would murder all the socialists and labor union leaders in Europe. | Feb 27 03:14 |
| msb | Pure capitalism seems like a good idea when people visualize it being used in a small town. But when the wealthy get enough money to control the govt, and are psychopaths who are willing to murder people by the millions to increase their profits, it goes very bad. | Feb 27 03:16 |
| msb | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqs7GJ0jdY | Feb 27 03:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Psychopathy in Politics and Finance - Stefan Verstappen on GRTV - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/g85hq ] | Feb 27 03:17 | |
| MinceR | when two sides are opposed, one side being evil doesn't automatically mean that the other one isn't as evil | Feb 27 03:17 |
| MinceR | hungarians can't understand this either. | Feb 27 03:17 |
| msb | True. But not all governments are like in Hungary and like Stalin. | Feb 27 03:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3694301 | Feb 27 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Big data, cloud b... | Feb 27 03:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | "The spies know what works and want freedom for themselves." | Feb 27 03:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3693986 | Feb 27 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Feb 27 03:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | "It takes strength, incredible control and training but it's not a sport." | Feb 27 03:19 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3693963 | Feb 27 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Reshare by Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Feb 27 03:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I'm partial to the signs threatening to serve children espresso and give them a puppy." | Feb 27 03:19 |
| schestowitz__ | "Haha, Will is right." | Feb 27 03:20 |
| msb | Human facial expression was not evolved to withstand high-speed strobe photography. | Feb 27 03:25 |
| msb | People can look very weird. And yes, ballet dancers have tits. | Feb 27 03:27 |
| msb | Or ice skaters, whatever. | Feb 27 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | This winter is dragging on... | Feb 27 03:28 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen it this cold at this point. | Feb 27 03:28 |
| msb | It's been temperate in the San Francisco area, and now it's raining a little. | Feb 27 03:29 |
| msb | DaemonFC: Don;t worry. When the methane clathrate under the polar oceans finishes melting an vaporizing, it'll be plenty warm. | Feb 27 03:30 |
| msb | Of course the current coasts may be submerged. | Feb 27 03:30 |
| msb | Hopefully Earth will not get as hot as Venus, since we're farther from the Sun. | Feb 27 03:31 |
| msb | Some life should survive, along with the air-conditioning industry. | Feb 27 03:33 |
| DaemonFC | The EPA suggests that Indiana's climate will be more like Missouri's is now by 2050. | Feb 27 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | And more like Louisiana's by 2070. | Feb 27 03:35 |
| msb | Methane is about 23x as effective a greenhouse gas as CO2. The more that's released, the hotter it gets, causing more to melt and release. It's literally exponential. I doubt that the EPA is taking that into account. | Feb 27 03:38 |
| msb | DaemonFC: Well, you should start learning French and enjoying Zydeco music! | Feb 27 03:39 |
| msb | Dig a pond and get into the shrimp farming industry early! | Feb 27 03:40 |
| msb | I love this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fs12_-ihPY | Feb 27 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Balfa Brothers - Parlez Nous A Boire - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gpkdz ] | Feb 27 03:42 | |
| msb | A bit of the lyrics here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMzysRahEXs Southern Comfort is a great movie. | Feb 27 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Parlez-nous à boire - Balfa brothers & Marc Savoy - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gpkef ] | Feb 27 03:47 | |
| DaemonFC | msb: So Florida will be underwater. That's bad. They'll move further north. Some of them may end up in Indiana. :P | Feb 27 03:51 |
| msb | Agghh! | Feb 27 03:52 |
| msb | Invest in the suntan lotion industry. And move to Canada. | Feb 27 03:54 |
| msb | Half a century ago my family had a short vacation in Florida. It was horribly hot there. Being submerged would be a blessing. | Feb 27 03:57 |
| msb | In the TV series (Star Trek) Enterprise, aliens burned a 10 mile wide swathe across Florida, just to test their planet-kller weapon. It's a great show, lasted several years. | Feb 27 03:59 |
| msb | Hah! Castle did Scientology! S06E16 | Feb 27 04:27 |
| DaemonFC | msb: It turns out that the Hubbert Curve was wrong. | Feb 27 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | It didn't anticipate enhanced recovery and unconventional oil. | Feb 27 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like supply isn't going to be the problem. | Feb 27 04:32 |
| DaemonFC | We have enough to fry ourselves many times over. :) | Feb 27 04:32 |
| msb | Burning it and making CO2 is going to be the problem. | Feb 27 04:32 |
| msb | yep | Feb 27 04:33 |
| msb | Also there's plenty of coal, which can be converted to oil, or burned as is. Same CO2. | Feb 27 04:34 |
| msb | We should switch to failsafe fission reactors, which can be built -- they just cost more. | Feb 27 04:34 |
| msb | And develop cold fusion. | Feb 27 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | I used recycled motor oil in my car for a long time. | Feb 27 04:35 |
| DaemonFC | The price of other oil was rising while the price for recycled was staying under $1 per quart. | Feb 27 04:35 |
| msb | Doesn't it have metal particles in it, or degenerated molecules that don't lube as well? | Feb 27 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | Now they've greenwashed recycled oil and the price is basically the same. :P | Feb 27 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | No. | Feb 27 04:36 |
| msb | If you had a steam car you could burn it -- no problem. | Feb 27 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | They filter it out and add a new detergent package. | Feb 27 04:36 |
| msb | Cool! | Feb 27 04:36 |
| DaemonFC | I was getting it for as little as 78 cents per quart at one point. | Feb 27 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | http://green.autoblog.com/2011/03/16/valvoline-nextgen-recycled-motor-oil/ | Feb 27 04:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-green.autoblog.com | Valvoline introduces NextGen recycled motor oil; now, who wants it? [ http://ur1.ca/gpkqr ] | Feb 27 04:37 | |
| DaemonFC | That was before the major brands started greenwashing it. | Feb 27 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | Now it's $3.50-$4 a quart. :P | Feb 27 04:38 |
| msb | Better that it's re-used in cars than spread on crops, like heavy-metal sewer sludge, or added to the water supply, like fluoride waste from aluminum and uranium manufacturing. | Feb 27 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | msb: The store brand fluids aren't that much cheaper than the name brands. | Feb 27 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | If you use Walmart's brand of extended life antifreeze, you only save like $1 a bottle. | Feb 27 04:41 |
| DaemonFC | So I just use the Prestone brand. Probably the same stuff either way... | Feb 27 04:41 |
| msb | Well, at least consider yourself lucky that you're not living in Hungary. | Feb 27 04:41 |
| msb | Do not sap or impurify your precious automotive fluids! | Feb 27 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | msb: I've always been pretty frugal about most things. | Feb 27 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | I heckle Comcast every six months. | Feb 27 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | I shop at thrift stores for clothes. | Feb 27 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | I fill my freezer with stuff that was on closeout at the supermarket. :P | Feb 27 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | Pennies scream as they get pinched around here. :) | Feb 27 05:02 |
| msb | Good for you! | Feb 27 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | I wanted a second TV for my bedroom so I could play my video games and DVDs on it. | Feb 27 05:03 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438973840061124608 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438974012103098368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438974227350568961 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438975921224429568 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438976225353404416 | Feb 27 05:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux-based operating system that hooks into Microsoft APIs and is distributed by a Microsoft partner? Think #novell and not just #nokia | Feb 27 05:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The FSFE's founder was right when he called the Microsoft-Nokia deal another #Microsoft - #Novell deal. #Nokia too gives patents to trolls. | Feb 27 05:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Nokia 'Android': for Microsoft "intellectual property peace of mind" - wait till the patent-stacking starts against more Android players | Feb 27 05:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Weston Work Still Ongoing For A Fullscreen Shell Protocol http://t.co/itKCI7Y698 #wayland #weston #linux #graphics | Feb 27 05:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Weston Work Still Ongoing For A Fullscreen Shell Protocol | Feb 27 05:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Nothing as shocking as finding that tablet got switched on by accident and for 10 minutes of walking made a complete mess of my TODO list | Feb 27 05:03 | |
| DaemonFC | So instead of buying a new one, I got on Craigslist and found a guy that was giving away a perfectly good 50" SDTV. | Feb 27 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | Then I found a DTV converter for $5 at a garage sale. | Feb 27 05:03 |
| -->FYI (559d90ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.157.144.255) has joined #techrights | Feb 27 05:09 | |
| FYI | There is some development the UK - the Cabinet Office asked opinions to asses some standards | Feb 27 05:10 |
| FYI | http://standards.data.gov.uk/challenge/viewing-government-documents | Feb 27 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standards.data.gov.uk | Viewing government documents | Standards Hub [ http://ur1.ca/gpky9 ] | Feb 27 05:10 | |
| FYI | http://standards.data.gov.uk/challenge/sharing-or-collaborating-government-documents | Feb 27 05:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standards.data.gov.uk | Sharing or collaborating with government documents | Standards Hub [ http://ur1.ca/gpkya ] | Feb 27 05:11 | |
| FYI | First challenge was about viewing government documents. | Feb 27 05:11 |
| FYI | Second clallenge was about editing government documents | Feb 27 05:12 |
| FYI | The commenting period is now over. | Feb 27 05:12 |
| FYI | http://standards.data.gov.uk/phases-selection-approach | Feb 27 05:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-standards.data.gov.uk | Phases in the selection approach | Standards Hub [ http://ur1.ca/gpkyv ] | Feb 27 05:13 | |
| FYI | There is five phases for selecting a standard. | Feb 27 05:13 |
| FYI | The Cabinet office asked opinios about ODF - should it the only document format (internally) for document editing? | Feb 27 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | Hmm, someone asked which cat litter works best. | Feb 27 05:18 |
| DaemonFC | My cat is weird. He loves the cheap stuff, but I tried to get the more expensive stuff once because it has less dust, and he didn't like that at all. | Feb 27 05:19 |
| schestowitz__ | FYI: yeah | Feb 27 05:21 |
| schestowitz__ | I have been debating it with Cabinet Office by email | Feb 27 05:21 |
| schestowitz__ | I will publish more about it soon | Feb 27 05:21 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695367 | Feb 27 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Neocons and the U... | Feb 27 05:23 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Thanks for sharing, this has been scrubbed from the US media almost entirely. John McCain and Victoria Neuland with a Neo-Nazi, classic stuff. Reminds me of the Hussein/Rumsfeld photo" | Feb 27 05:23 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438982927867981824 | Feb 27 05:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server Receives Yet Another Kernel Update http://t.co/mcw2kBctVW #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Feb 27 05:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Server Receives Yet Another Kernel Update | Feb 27 05:39 | |
| MinceR | what's the reaction to the recent revelation that the monarch of the UK abuses her veto privileges? | Feb 27 05:50 |
| MinceR | geekings | Feb 27 05:51 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Prezbyter/status/438991364554899456 | Feb 27 05:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Prezbyter: @schestowitz Protecting the community from everyone but them. Law as crime. | Feb 27 05:59 | |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: at dinner last night I shared this with a friend | Feb 27 06:00 |
| schestowitz__ | he hadn't even heard abouyt it | Feb 27 06:00 |
| schestowitz__ | and he hardly believed it | Feb 27 06:00 |
| schestowitz__ | till I told him | Feb 27 06:00 |
| schestowitz__ | My wife knew also, but this man is a retired professor | Feb 27 06:00 |
| schestowitz__ | and he didn't know | Feb 27 06:00 |
| schestowitz__ | he was part of Imperial Britian | Feb 27 06:00 |
| MinceR | ic | Feb 27 06:07 |
| schestowitz__ | In India | Feb 27 06:10 |
| schestowitz__ | and his father perhaps a spy, he never really shared much info about it | Feb 27 06:10 |
| schestowitz__ | then there's the knowledge about slavery and torture in Kenya, the doping of China under British control... | Feb 27 06:11 |
| schestowitz__ | BUT | Feb 27 06:11 |
| schestowitz__ | When it comes to the Queen having power he remains in denial | Feb 27 06:11 |
| schestowitz__ | He says Monarchy is long gone - and that's how the conversation started at this sushi batr | Feb 27 06:12 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438988512571179008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438989332322746368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438990093265932288 | Feb 27 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA reform advocates oppose White House proposal to hand data to #FBI http://t.co/0Kp6Ba0rRp stop collection altogether | Feb 27 06:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | NSA reform advocates oppose White House proposal to hand data to FBI | World news | theguardian.com | Feb 27 06:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Schneier: "Yes, 100 per cent: I'm a target. If the FBI tried to get a warrant on my computer..." http://t.co/3mJ8RbzWiR | Feb 27 06:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Q&A: Schneier on trust, NSA spying and the end of US internet hegemony • The Register | Feb 27 06:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "US government...used more National Security Agency surveillance than it disclosed during their court proceedings." http://t.co/KKmThGFwBO | Feb 27 06:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.salon.com | NSA surveillance: A new door to court challenges? - Salon.com | Feb 27 06:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438990381443973120 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438991068902989825 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438993881968173057 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438994480172380161 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438995232672456704 | Feb 27 06:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #LAPD Spies on Millions of Innocent Folks http://t.co/A07s6utqjG the new standard. Guilty until proven dead/joins NSA. | Feb 27 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.laweekly.com | Forget the NSA, the LAPD Spies on Millions of Innocent Folks | News | Los Angeles | Los Angeles News and Events | LA Weekly | Feb 27 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Requests NSA Phone Records Not Be Deleted http://t.co/b113inRztA Hope his voters are happy... #nsa | Feb 27 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.valuewalk.com | Obama Requests NSA Phone Records Not Be Deleted | Feb 27 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Justice Dept: We Need to Keep NSA Call Data ‘Indefinitely’ http://t.co/qsLPXURijK #nsa #usdoj | Feb 27 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.antiwar.com | Justice Dept: We Need to Keep NSA Call Data ‘Indefinitely’ -- News from Antiwar.com | Feb 27 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Richard Clarke: Potential for American ‘police state’ created by NSA http://t.co/ApGunCHoY9 just "potential"? Same in #uk | Feb 27 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtontimes.com | Richard Clarke: Potential for American 'police state' created by NSA - Washington Times | Feb 27 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New assaults on American law -- more shocking revelations about NSA spying http://t.co/0xXLrZ7rpk Fox but Napolitano | Feb 27 06:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.foxnews.com | New assaults on American law -- more shocking revelations about NSA spying | Fox News | Feb 27 06:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438996675475296256 | Feb 27 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #facebook is truly sick **. Someone we knew just died from a stroke; people other than the family announce it for wall attention/comments | Feb 27 06:19 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailyfueleconomytip.com/uncategorized/will-switching-to-synthetic-oil-give-you-better-gas-mileage/ | Feb 27 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Feb 27 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailyfueleconomytip.com | Will Switching to Synthetic Oil Give You Better Gas Mileage? | Daily Fuel Economy Tip [ http://ur1.ca/gplgp ] | Feb 27 06:20 | |
| DaemonFC | Another myth that just won't die. | Feb 27 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | In reality, there's very little difference between an ILSAC GF-5 rated conventional oil and a synthetic. | Feb 27 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | You will not get better gas mileage with synthetic. | Feb 27 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | The difference is slightly reduced engine wear, less sludge buildup, and the possibility of going more miles without an oil change. | Feb 27 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | But the difference in engine wear and sludge is not significant. | Feb 27 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | Most gas saving tips are just wrong. | Feb 27 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | Aggressive driving and idling are the biggest gas wasters. | Feb 27 06:23 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438997421411274753 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438997882717614080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438998430292410369 | Feb 27 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Drones On: The Slaughter of Pakistani Civilians http://t.co/ZuJH5ML9Km http://t.co/eNMgsTYjjp #droNSA | Feb 27 06:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalresearch.ca | Obama Drones On: The Slaughter of Pakistani Civilians | Global Research | Feb 27 06:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> host.madison.com | Drone strikes on foreign soil are difficult to justify : Daily-cardinal | Feb 27 06:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Promoter of panic over "terrorism" admits that its terrorisation of the population was all in vain again http://t.co/79lRE5AAPu | Feb 27 06:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> edition.cnn.com | Opinion: Forecasts of terrorist apocalypse? Never mind - CNN.com | Feb 27 06:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Military #propaganda on US radio courtesy of Murdoch's Fox 'news' http://t.co/ZCS2I1mx35 | Feb 27 06:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> siouxcityjournal.com | LETTER: Thoughts about proposed cuts to defense | Feb 27 06:31 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438998774892208128 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438999213226328064 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/438999349935484928 | Feb 27 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Iraq War, Afghanistan War, Gitmo and drones [...] terrorist organizations using these as propaganda to recruit" http://t.co/ZCS2I1mx35 | Feb 27 06:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Yesterday #NBC was conflating drones with Bin Laden in panic headline. Today: "Stealth Search: Embattled Al Qaeda Hunts for a New Bin Laden" | Feb 27 06:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The corporate media loves war. Corporations don't send troops to the battle, they only send merchandise to battles. | Feb 27 06:31 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: http://beta.slashdot.org/story/198685 | Feb 27 06:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beta.slashdot.org | IE Vulnerability Exposing Banking Logins, Spreading Rapidly - Slashdot | Feb 27 06:35 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.itworld.com/security/406979/ie-zero-day-exploit-being-used-widespread-attacks | Feb 27 06:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | IE zero-day exploit being used in widespread attacks | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/gplkm ] | Feb 27 06:35 | |
| msb | Please remember! The entire War of Terror -- the murder by the U.S. of 2,000,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq, the spying by the NSA, the destruction by the US of Libya the nation with the highest standard of living in Africa, the drone attacks that continue -- all of it is based on the 9/11 attack, and this video proves that the Twin Towers were blown up by implanted explosives. Nothing else could have blown the multi-ton girders | Feb 27 06:41 |
| msb | sideways at up to 75mph. Only a horizontal force can accelerate objects horizontally. Newton's Second Law of Motion F=ma is a vector equation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc | Feb 27 06:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | North Tower Exploding by David Chandler - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gpllt ] | Feb 27 06:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | Mny dad has just been venting lyracially at the US | Feb 27 06:42 |
| schestowitz__ | and those who sympathise with its oreign affairs | Feb 27 06:42 |
| schestowitz__ | e.g. in Ukraine | Feb 27 06:42 |
| msb | This is a very good 13 minute documentary by Russia Today on the 9/11 research, comparing 9/11 to Operation Gladio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vka7Da6e9LY&feature=share | Feb 27 06:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Truthseeker: 9/11 & Operation Gladio (E23) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gplmx ] | Feb 27 06:49 | |
| msb | The same false-flag terror. | Feb 27 06:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439002817614086144 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439003578003619840 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439004076039503873 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439004500360458240 | Feb 27 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #CIA tech chief loves wearable surveillance and 'cloud' #surveillance http://t.co/9BdmWw6vQC what he likes we should all avoid | Feb 27 06:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> venturebeat.com | Former CIA tech chief is on the prowl for big data & wearables startups (exclusive) | VentureBeat | Security | by Christina Farr | Feb 27 06:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Lisa Hajjar talks about torture in Guantanamo Bay http://t.co/Hg6ILiYIS4 become a "target", get "probed". #torture #suspicion #dissent | Feb 27 06:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thecollegianur.com | Lisa Hajjar talks about torture in Guantanamo Bay | Feb 27 06:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Rove gets platform from Murdoch http://t.co/iWQtIozmg4 http://t.co/KQq5QzQnyS | Feb 27 06:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> online.wsj.com | Karl Rove: The Endless Benghazi Coverup - WSJ.com | Feb 27 06:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsmax.com | Karl Rove: House Intelligence Committee Must Press for Answers on Benghazi | Feb 27 06:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "U.S. has ties to Nazi and fascist protesters in Ukraine" http://t.co/mbNLHEWCHV ultrwealthy in US supported Nazi party in 1930s | Feb 27 06:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.opednews.com | Article: Is the Rebellion in Ukraine Really Aimed at Creating a National Socialist State? | OpEdNews | Feb 27 06:51 | |
| msb | This is a superb 5 minute video on the absurdity of the govt claims about 9/11 and about the huge coverup afterward, by James Corbett, who works with CRG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98&feature=share | Feb 27 06:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/gplpo ] | Feb 27 06:58 | |
| schestowitz__ | Corbett is interesting, but he's not the face of CRG | Feb 27 07:02 |
| schestowitz__ | And his opinions on things cannot be extrapolated to be seen as representing CRG | Feb 27 07:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Forums get discredited this way, among other ways | Feb 27 07:03 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439007613569998848 | Feb 27 07:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Erosion of Rights: Latest Headlines http://t.co/fAtpQ9P9X2 #drones #surveillance - making "legal" what was illegal in analogue world | Feb 27 07:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Erosion of Rights: Latest Headlines | Techrights | Feb 27 07:04 | |
| msb | I only said he works with CRG. And his video is full of facts. | Feb 27 07:05 |
| msb | The youtube page has a link to this page on Corbett's site, where he gives a transcript and copious references for the facts in the video: http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/ | Feb 27 07:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.corbettreport.com | The Corbett Report | 9/11: A Conspiracy Theory [ http://ur1.ca/gplrs ] | Feb 27 07:08 | |
| DaemonFC | http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/10/news/companies/soda-sales-slump/ | Feb 27 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-money.cnn.com | Soda sales are losing their fizz - Dec. 10, 2013 [ http://ur1.ca/gplt4 ] | Feb 27 07:16 | |
| DaemonFC | I pretty much stopped drinking soda and freed up about $50-60 a month. I also feel much better. Even though the soda was diet soda, I started losing weight around the same time that I stopped. Some studies have shown that people who drink diet soda instead of water are 12.8 pounds heavier on average, so *something* about diet soda is causing people to pack on pounds, even though it has no sugar. | Feb 27 07:16 |
| Sosumi | diet soda = aspartame/sucralose soda | Feb 27 07:19 |
| Sosumi | just as bad if not worse than normal soda | Feb 27 07:19 |
| MinceR | not necessarily those sweeteners | Feb 27 07:26 |
| MinceR | also, what's "just as bad" about them? | Feb 27 07:26 |
| MinceR | they're differently bad :> | Feb 27 07:26 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439014896899223552 | Feb 27 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Journalists Should Stop Spreading Speculations That #Microsoft Makes Billions From #Android http://t.co/EHMsShIiuW that includes @sjvn | Feb 27 07:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Journalists Should Stop Spreading Baseless Speculations That Microsoft Makes Billions From Android | Techrights | Feb 27 07:34 | |
| Sosumi | more problems with the trashcan | Feb 27 08:01 |
| Sosumi | http://michaelkammes.com/apple/how-i-killed-the-new-mac-pro/ | Feb 27 08:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelkammes.com | How I killed the new Mac Pro | Michael Kammes (.com) [ http://ur1.ca/gpm4b ] | Feb 27 08:01 | |
| Sosumi | and no actual fixes in sight | Feb 27 08:01 |
| Sosumi | even the last released thunderbolt fixm didn't fix anything | Feb 27 08:01 |
| Sosumi | which is awesome | Feb 27 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 27 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | Actually, there's a wonderful gay pride parade in Tel Aviv every so often, and a ton of gay bars. | Feb 27 08:27 |
| DaemonFC | Some of these Fundie hacks should go check it out. They'll be horrified. It'll be awesome. | Feb 27 08:27 |
| MinceR | how would that affect the usa-israel love affair? | Feb 27 08:29 |
| DaemonFC | They NEVER talk about the fact that Israel is more progressive about gay rights than most of the US states are. | Feb 27 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | They don't really want to know that, so the ones that know it don't talk about it. | Feb 27 08:36 |
| DaemonFC | "Soft drink makers are prepared. Pepsico, for example, owns water brands SoBe Lifewater and Propel, while Coca-Cola owns Dasani, Vitamin Water and Smart Water." | Feb 27 08:41 |
| DaemonFC | Brand of water..... | Feb 27 08:41 |
| DaemonFC | I still can't fucking believe that. | Feb 27 08:41 |
| MinceR | why? | Feb 27 08:41 |
| DaemonFC | People paying $1-2 per bottle for water. | Feb 27 08:41 |
| MinceR | for example, mineral water from different sources can have different contents and different taste | Feb 27 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | It comes out of every tap, basically free. | Feb 27 08:42 |
| MinceR | and they usually have different brands | Feb 27 08:42 |
| MinceR | spring water is probably similar (though with lower mineral content) | Feb 27 08:42 |
| DaemonFC | People say they don't trust that tap water is safe, so they buy tap water that some company put in plastic bottles and drink that instead. | Feb 27 08:43 |
| MinceR | well, if their heuristic is that "any tap water is bad" then this is disingenuous :> | Feb 27 08:43 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: We get a tap water quality report every year. | Feb 27 08:45 |
| DaemonFC | The biggest problem with the water where I am at is volatile organic compounds. | Feb 27 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | "bad taste" | Feb 27 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | but a cheap carbon filter takes care of that. | Feb 27 08:46 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | They're like $10 and they filter over 100 gallons | Feb 27 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | There's more expensive filters that remove other things. | Feb 27 08:49 |
| DaemonFC | But if those things are not in your water, then you're just wasting your money. | Feb 27 08:49 |
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| msb | Big problem with water if fluoride, if you are living in a red area in this map https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Fluoridated-water-extent-world.svg | Feb 27 10:02 |
| MinceR | http://arielzellman.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/the-seven-rules-of-nationalism/ | Feb 27 10:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arielzellman.wordpress.com | The Seven Rules of Nationalism | Ariel Zellman [ http://ur1.ca/gpmza ] | Feb 27 10:05 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3683670 | Feb 27 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #linux #android f... | Feb 27 10:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I didn't say it is 100% safe ... But I think I'll use my openMoko again :)" | Feb 27 10:12 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695946 | Feb 27 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #facebook is trul... | Feb 27 10:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | "It's not facebook, but people who are using it right?" | Feb 27 10:12 |
| schestowitz__ | "@Berta - Systems can encourage unhealthy behaviour in individuals. Facebook is designed and promoted in such a way that encourages people to vie for attention by making public more and more information about themselves and anyone else they know. users are rewarded game-style with public "scores" (likes, followers etc) to encourage them to keep collecting and giving more information. Yes, the users are playing the game, but the game | Feb 27 10:12 |
| schestowitz__ | designer is the one who creates the rules of the game to encourage how user interaction will occur." | Feb 27 10:12 |
| schestowitz__ | "So you want to say that if someone stabbed someone with the knife, so this is a knife's producer fault?" | Feb 27 10:12 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 10:13 |
| schestowitz__ | You're using a false dichotomy (a logical fallacy). Arguing that the system designers have influence is not the same as arguing that individuals should bare no responsibility at all. It is arguing only that individuals are not the only ones responsible, and thus making them so gives a free pass to the others involved. Responsibility needs to be shared among all parties that made decisions influencing the final result. | Feb 27 10:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Or to use your example: If the knife manufacturer sold the knife outside divorce courts in packaging explaining how easy and satisfying it was to use the knife to stab someone with instructions included inside on how and where to stab people for maximum harm then I'd be more inclined to give them more culpability than if they sold the knife in a kitchen ship surrounded by recipe books extolling the joys of cooking. Same product. Two | Feb 27 10:13 |
| schestowitz__ | different systems encouraging different behaviour. | Feb 27 10:13 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 10:13 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 10:14 |
| schestowitz__ | And you are giving an example of a victim mentality - blaming others for a situation that one has created oneself or significantly contributed to. Failing or being unwilling to take responsibility for one's own actions or actions to which one has contributed or for taking action to ameliorate the situation. | Feb 27 10:14 |
| schestowitz__ | In this context, instead of saying "Facebook is sick", we should say "Twitter is insane", "Tor is sick" or in general "Internet is sick". | Feb 27 10:14 |
| schestowitz__ | Taking your example, Tor has been advertised and even prooved as a great tool to selling drugs, child ponrnography and hiring hitmans. Tor must be sick. Darknet must be sick. | Feb 27 10:14 |
| msb | Fluoride calcifies the pineal gland, makes the person docile and stupid. A functioning pineal makes DMT, melatonin, and other hormones. | Feb 27 10:14 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 27 10:14 |
| schestowitz__ | it there was no FB people would not do this. As for Twitter. it's not a connection among family and friends but usually among people with common interest, so it's about ideas and events, not people | Feb 27 10:14 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695963 | Feb 27 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Promoter of panic... | Feb 27 10:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Why didn't anyone predict another conflict on Russia's borders? Beijing 2008 - Georgia. Sochi 2014 - Ukraine." | Feb 27 10:15 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695920 | Feb 27 10:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Richard Clarke: P... | Feb 27 10:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | "As planned." | Feb 27 10:15 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695848 | Feb 27 10:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Obama Requests NS... | Feb 27 10:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I doubt many of them will ever even hear about this." | Feb 27 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | I think that many will | Feb 27 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3696224 | Feb 27 10:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Journalists Shoul... | Feb 27 10:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Are you just upset there is a non-sourcable number attached? I mean, there is no denying they make some amount of money from patent agreements with phone manufacturers who make Android phones. How much? Only M$ and the respecitve parties knowledgable to such secret agreements really know." | Feb 27 10:17 |
| schestowitz__ | They don't. It's like the EULA game. Microsoft NDAs to keep them unaware of other companies' terms. | Feb 27 10:17 |
| msb | Russia is the only effective counter to US international fascist attacks. | Feb 27 10:17 |
| msb | So US will always attack nations around Russia. | Feb 27 10:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I mean, OEM agreements, not EULAs actually. It's in Comes vs Microsoft. | Feb 27 10:18 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3689948 | Feb 27 10:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #prism exempt #wh... | Feb 27 10:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Xabber is an XMPP client, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't do encrypted communications (eg zrtp or OTR), which would strike it off the list as per the authors requirements." | Feb 27 10:18 |
| msb | Fluoride, mercury, and aluminum are major neurotoxins, and they are variously put into our water, food and air. | Feb 27 10:23 |
| msb | Russia is the only effective counter to US international fascist attacks. pace MinceR | Feb 27 10:27 |
| MinceR | it's not a counter to any sort of fascist attack | Feb 27 10:28 |
| MinceR | fascist attacks are no counter to each other. | Feb 27 10:28 |
| MinceR | but if you love them so much, why don't you move russia? | Feb 27 10:28 |
| MinceR | just be careful not to offend their beloved cult or you might end up in prison :> | Feb 27 10:28 |
| msb | MinceR: you are still using "fascist" to mean "authoritarian". Distorting the meaning of words/concepts causes great difficulties in communication. | Feb 27 10:29 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Feb 27 10:30 |
| MinceR | it is one accepted meaning if "fascist" | Feb 27 10:30 |
| MinceR | s/if/of/ | Feb 27 10:30 |
| msb | Accepted only by people who don't mind distorting and ruining concepts. | Feb 27 10:30 |
| MinceR | no true scotsman | Feb 27 10:30 |
| msb | ??? | Feb 27 10:31 |
| msb | MinceR: Anyhow, the day may come when I will regret not moving to Russia, or Cuba as you previously told me to. | Feb 27 10:32 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Feb 27 10:33 |
| MinceR | you might also want to consider north korea | Feb 27 10:33 |
| MinceR | it's a commie wonderland | Feb 27 10:33 |
| MinceR | you'll just have to learn to like the taste of tree bark! | Feb 27 10:34 |
| msb | MinceR: Perhaps you should move to the US. You would be at home with our Republican Party. | Feb 27 10:34 |
| MinceR | not really | Feb 27 10:34 |
| MinceR | i'm not the one arguing in favor of authoritarianism here :> | Feb 27 10:35 |
| msb | They hate "commies". | Feb 27 10:35 |
| msb | I'm not either. | Feb 27 10:35 |
| MinceR | yeah, and they also fail to see that commies, nazis and fascists are mostly the same. | Feb 27 10:35 |
| msb | Hitler attacked the USSR, killing some 20 million people. | Feb 27 10:36 |
| MinceR | somehow all that waste of ink, breath and bits comes down to centralized control of everything. | Feb 27 10:36 |
| MinceR | both nazi germany and commie russia killed massive amounts of their own people and massive amounts of other people | Feb 27 10:37 |
| msb | The Nazis were 75% financed by wealthy US businessmen. | Feb 27 10:37 |
| MinceR | the commies were less proud of it, though | Feb 27 10:37 |
| MinceR | some of they tried to hide | Feb 27 10:37 |
| MinceR | hardly matters from the viewpoint of the ones who were killed, though | Feb 27 10:37 |
| MinceR | s/some of/some of it/ | Feb 27 10:37 |
| msb | The Bolsheviks were attacked by many different capitalist nations immediately after the revolution, before they had killed anybody. | Feb 27 10:38 |
| msb | Why, MinceR? | Feb 27 10:38 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Feb 27 10:38 |
| MinceR | does this somehow explain the holodomor? | Feb 27 10:38 |
| msb | The attackers murdered millions. | Feb 27 10:38 |
| MinceR | does this make the occupation of hungary for decades just? | Feb 27 10:39 |
| msb | Not at all. | Feb 27 10:39 |
| MinceR | does this make you blind to russian imperialism? | Feb 27 10:39 |
| msb | I don't think Russia is being very imperialistic now. | Feb 27 10:39 |
| MinceR | i think they're being very imperialistic indeed | Feb 27 10:39 |
| msb | How? | Feb 27 10:40 |
| MinceR | they meddle in the affairs of supposedly independent states | Feb 27 10:40 |
| msb | Where? | Feb 27 10:40 |
| MinceR | all over in the former eastern bloc | Feb 27 10:40 |
| MinceR | now in ukraine, for example | Feb 27 10:40 |
| msb | Meddling is not nearly as bad as military attacks. | Feb 27 10:40 |
| MinceR | some of the meddling is military attacks. | Feb 27 10:40 |
| msb | Ukraine has been taken over by nazis who are threatening jews, homosexuals, etc. | Feb 27 10:41 |
| MinceR | russia has been taken over by authoritarians who are threatening homosexuals | Feb 27 10:41 |
| MinceR | stalinists were threatening jews | Feb 27 10:41 |
| msb | Yes, Stalin was very evil. | Feb 27 10:42 |
| Sosumi | I remember when the ukranians were greeting their nazi liberators | Feb 27 10:42 |
| Sosumi | only to find out they were much worst | Feb 27 10:42 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 27 10:42 |
| msb | But his regime was a reaction to decades of attacks by capitalist nations. | Feb 27 10:42 |
| MinceR | "but he punched me first!" | Feb 27 10:42 |
| msb | They attacked because communism/socialism kills the profits of wealthy capitalists. | Feb 27 10:43 |
| MinceR | assuming that it was a reaction (which it almost certainly wasn't), does this make the nature of the reaction just? | Feb 27 10:43 |
| msb | That's why US ultrawealthy financed Hitler. | Feb 27 10:43 |
| MinceR | no, it didn't | Feb 27 10:43 |
| MinceR | communism/socialism killed the profits of the states where it was used. | Feb 27 10:43 |
| MinceR | it made the russian empire fall apart -- but now they're picking up the pieces again. | Feb 27 10:43 |
| msb | Under communism, Russia advanced from horse-and-buggy to ICBMs in a few decades. | Feb 27 10:44 |
| MinceR | also, since the work i do is mental, not menial, i'm by default painted as an enemy by the commies. | Feb 27 10:44 |
| MinceR | yeah, and most of that advancement was either bought or spied | Feb 27 10:45 |
| MinceR | they could never figure out how to make cars that don't suck | Feb 27 10:45 |
| MinceR | or how to make computers at all | Feb 27 10:45 |
| MinceR | the apartment blocks they built are uninhabitable | Feb 27 10:45 |
| msb | MinceR: For someone who dislikes the fascist regime he lives in, you have absorbed much of their anti-socialist ideology. | Feb 27 10:46 |
| MinceR | msb: you're still trapped in the "A is evil therefore B is good" fallacy. | Feb 27 10:46 |
| msb | Not at all. I think that Stalinism was evil. | Feb 27 10:46 |
| MinceR | you'd make a good hungarian | Feb 27 10:46 |
| msb | But democratic socialism is good. Not authoritarian. | Feb 27 10:47 |
| MinceR | also not functioning | Feb 27 10:47 |
| MinceR | free-market democracy works. | Feb 27 10:47 |
| MinceR | (but you still need to work hard to keep the markets free) | Feb 27 10:47 |
| msb | The Republicans would love you, MinceR! You think exactly like them! | Feb 27 10:47 |
| MinceR | of course it's not ideal -- it's merely the least horrible thing humanity has come up with so far | Feb 27 10:48 |
| MinceR | msb: yeah, i love the usian megacorps distorting markets and corrupting states so they won't have to compete | Feb 27 10:48 |
| MinceR | msb: after all, that's what the free market is all about, isn't it? | Feb 27 10:48 |
| msb | MinceR: What about the US attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, murdering two million. Are you OK with that? It's capitalism at work. | Feb 27 10:48 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure what that has to do with capitalism | Feb 27 10:49 |
| MinceR | other than that they might be in part rooted in the military-industrial complex trying to generate more demand for their products | Feb 27 10:49 |
| msb | US capitalists run the govt, and want to control the world to maximize their profits. | Feb 27 10:49 |
| MinceR | which means the US is neither democratic nor free-market. | Feb 27 10:49 |
| msb | That's true to. Murder for profit. | Feb 27 10:50 |
| MinceR | so why try so hard to paint me as a republican? | Feb 27 10:50 |
| msb | Because you say the same things they do. | Feb 27 10:50 |
| MinceR | unlike them, i mean those things. | Feb 27 10:50 |
| MinceR | and i don't say some other things they say. | Feb 27 10:50 |
| MinceR | and those things are important too. | Feb 27 10:50 |
| msb | You ignore the fact that in a society in which money=power rich people control the govt. | Feb 27 10:50 |
| MinceR | you ignore the fact that there is no society where money != power. | Feb 27 10:51 |
| msb | And enough of the rich people are psychopaths that the govt then does mass murder. | Feb 27 10:51 |
| MinceR | try to eliminate money itself and different resources will still work the same in its place. | Feb 27 10:51 |
| MinceR | if you have an authoritarian regime, a small number of crazy evil people do a lot of evil things | Feb 27 10:52 |
| msb | But if you have functioning democracy, functioning news media, a conscious population, and an egalitarian economic system, you can avoid getting an authoritarian regime. | Feb 27 10:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 10:53 |
| MinceR | but there are at least two competing interpretations of what an "egalitarian economic system" is. | Feb 27 10:54 |
| msb | In the US, the wealthy control the news media, and also do various things to keep the voters stupid and unconscious. So democracy can't work. | Feb 27 10:54 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 10:54 |
| MinceR | that's why the system needs to be changed so that democracy will work | Feb 27 10:54 |
| MinceR | the election system needs to stop upholding the two-party system, for example. | Feb 27 10:55 |
| MinceR | and net neutrality must be kept up so that the wealthy won't get to control all of the media. | Feb 27 10:55 |
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| msb | How do you feel about Social Democracy, in which, e.g., the ratio of highest to lowest salary in any company is limited to a factor of 8 or so? | Feb 27 10:56 |
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| MinceR | i'm not sure if such a limit would be healthy, and what it should be | Feb 27 10:56 |
| MinceR | and if it has been tried anywhere | Feb 27 10:56 |
| msb | How do you feel about a tax on wealth, not just income. | Feb 27 10:56 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure i'm comfortable with it, but i could go either way. | Feb 27 10:56 |
| msb | Social Democracy is used in the Scandinavian countries. | Feb 27 10:56 |
| MinceR | which of them have an explicit legal limit on salary differences? | Feb 27 10:57 |
| Sosumi | http://betanews.com/2014/02/26/microsofts-attempts-to-persuade-xp-users-to-switch-to-windows-8-1-miss-the-mark/ | Feb 27 11:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Microsoft's attempts to persuade XP users to switch to Windows 8.1 are wide of the mark [ http://ur1.ca/gpngm ] | Feb 27 11:04 | |
| Sosumi | yes, because a P4 will run it | Feb 27 11:04 |
| msb | MinceR: hard to find. only 44 google hits. | Feb 27 11:04 |
| MinceR | well, i was hoping you would already know | Feb 27 11:04 |
| msb | "in Germany the salary ratio of shopfloor worker/producer to ceo is around 20:1, in England around 40:1, in the united states i understand it is around 400:1" http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=03/12/31/3732693 | Feb 27 11:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.infoshop.org | On The Incompatibility Of Reform And Revolution - Infoshop News [ http://ur1.ca/gpnh6 ] | Feb 27 11:05 | |
| MinceR | actually i think such a rule would be circumvented extremely easily | Feb 27 11:06 |
| MinceR | spin off a company to do the low-income jobs and contract those services to that company | Feb 27 11:06 |
| msb | Not if there's a wealth tax too. | Feb 27 11:06 |
| MinceR | the wealth tax seems orthogonal to this | Feb 27 11:06 |
| msb | Large differences in wealth are harmful. | Feb 27 11:07 |
| MinceR | on the other hand, the wealth tax seems to be a more effective means to reduce wealth disparity | Feb 27 11:07 |
| msb | OK! The Republicans just kicked you out! | Feb 27 11:07 |
| MinceR | sure, but i'm not sure if they're harmful because of the difference or because of the fraudulent means by which they're usually accumulated | Feb 27 11:07 |
| msb | They're harmful because they give power to a few. As you said, money is always power. | Feb 27 11:08 |
| MinceR | i could find plenty of examples of people who have amassed great wealth by unfair means -- but this doesn't mean that amassing great wealth is evil by itself | Feb 27 11:08 |
| msb | It gets used for evil. sooner or later a psychopath comes along in the family, uses the wealth to control the govt, and starts dominating and murdering people. | Feb 27 11:09 |
| MinceR | it often does, but it doesn't have to be | Feb 27 11:10 |
| MinceR | another issue is how you deal with people inheriting great wealth | Feb 27 11:10 |
| msb | The great wealth should be gradually taxed away and distributed to non-wealthy (but still willing to work) people. | Feb 27 11:11 |
| msb | $10 million is enough for any family to live on. | Feb 27 11:12 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't approach this in term of families but in term of persons | Feb 27 11:12 |
| msb | If they can get a 5% ROI, that's $500K/year. | Feb 27 11:12 |
| MinceR | also, i'm not convinced that governments really need that much money | Feb 27 11:14 |
| MinceR | there's a lot of waste going on | Feb 27 11:14 |
| MinceR | buying msft licences, buying hypePads for MPs, for example | Feb 27 11:14 |
| MinceR | ironically, we hear republicans talking about how they want to reduce the government and reduce taxes while they do the exact opposite | Feb 27 11:15 |
| msb | Big expenses are maintaining a huge military, hundreds of bases around the world. | Feb 27 11:16 |
| MinceR | another example of waste | Feb 27 11:16 |
| msb | Much bigger than MSFT licenses or ipads. | Feb 27 11:16 |
| MinceR | and worse than that | Feb 27 11:16 |
| MinceR | the USA abuses the extra power it has over other states | Feb 27 11:17 |
| msb | Of course govts should use only FOSS. | Feb 27 11:17 |
| MinceR | (while it's being controlled by the megacorporations that effectively own both parties) | Feb 27 11:17 |
| msb | Now you're getting it! | Feb 27 11:17 |
| msb | Capitalism also wastes a lot of work and money on competition. | Feb 27 11:18 |
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| MinceR | and yet capitalist economies are still massively more effective than communist ones. | Feb 27 11:18 |
| MinceR | competition _is_ important | Feb 27 11:19 |
| MinceR | and so is diversity. | Feb 27 11:19 |
| MinceR | democracy also has its running costs (for example, the extra cost of doing referenda and midterm elections) | Feb 27 11:19 |
| msb | Nicaraguans are much happier under socialism than under capitalist Somoza. | Feb 27 11:19 |
| MinceR | but it's still better than the known alternatives | Feb 27 11:19 |
| MinceR | would you be happier as a cuban non-state-party-member whom the government doesn't allow to access the internet? | Feb 27 11:20 |
| msb | If the US would stop attacking Cuba it would become more democratic. | Feb 27 11:21 |
| Sosumi | ukraine just sold 1.5 billion hryvnia of 5 years domestic notes at 11.5% yield | Feb 27 11:21 |
| Sosumi | to some spanish hedgefund | Feb 27 11:21 |
| MinceR | msb: i really doubt that | Feb 27 11:21 |
| msb | The US did the Bay of Pigs invasion, and sprayed Cuba with swine flu to kill their pigs and thrips palmii to kill their crops. | Feb 27 11:21 |
| MinceR | dictators don't tend to soften if they're left alone | Feb 27 11:22 |
| msb | Castro is/was not a greatly evil "dictator". | Feb 27 11:23 |
| MinceR | every dictator is greatly evil. | Feb 27 11:23 |
| msb | Cuba has a lot of democracy. | Feb 27 11:23 |
| MinceR | in propaganda, i'm sure | Feb 27 11:23 |
| msb | Obama is a dictator, ruling by executive orders. | Feb 27 11:24 |
| msb | and media lies. | Feb 27 11:24 |
| MinceR | when the government kindly allows the people to buy computers, that must be a lot of democracy | Feb 27 11:24 |
| MinceR | i doubt obama has that much power, he comes and goes | Feb 27 11:24 |
| MinceR | you should watch out for the people pulling his strings. | Feb 27 11:24 |
| MinceR | and yet i'm pretty sure that even the current system makes it easy for the voters to cast off their two-party rulers | Feb 27 11:25 |
| MinceR | just start voting for 'third parties' | Feb 27 11:25 |
| msb | Big corps, like the insurance and drug companies that wrote and benefit from obamacare. | Feb 27 11:25 |
| MinceR | it's their fault for not informing themselves and not voting that way. | Feb 27 11:25 |
| MinceR | meanwhile there's only one candidate on the ballot in north korea. | Feb 27 11:26 |
| MinceR | the only way out is revolution. | Feb 27 11:26 |
| msb | They get flooded with lies from the corporate media. | Feb 27 11:26 |
| MinceR | they have access to other media. | Feb 27 11:26 |
| MinceR | they could talk to each other. | Feb 27 11:26 |
| MinceR | most of them have access to the internet. | Feb 27 11:26 |
| msb | The koreans wanted to unify in the '50s. The US backed the dictator in the south, and murdered 30% of the population in the north, in the korean war. | Feb 27 11:27 |
| msb | That's why north korea is the hell that it is today. | Feb 27 11:27 |
| MinceR | and yet now the south is free and the north is one of the darkest, most brutal dictatorships on the planet. | Feb 27 11:27 |
| msb | yes | Feb 27 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695946 | Feb 27 11:28 |
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| MinceR | so the US was on the right side after all. | Feb 27 11:29 |
| MinceR | bbl | Feb 27 11:29 |
| msb | No. If they US had not backed the fascists and attacked the north, the whole country would be free now. | Feb 27 11:30 |
| msb | Child porn can never be stopped unless the Net is totally censored. It may even be beneficial, if pedophiles use it for masturbation, instead of molesting actual children. | Feb 27 11:32 |
| msb | Since there's no doubt already plenty of kiddyporn available, no more children need be molested to make more. | Feb 27 11:33 |
| schestowitz__ | msb: https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439072574916796416 | Feb 27 11:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Empire complex https://t.co/XmLq200y2p | Feb 27 11:33 | |
| msb | schestowitz__: Thanks, Roy! That's gotta go up on my site! | Feb 27 11:36 |
| schestowitz__ | My dad agrees with your views on US foreign policy | Feb 27 11:50 |
| schestowitz__ | But some of the other stuff you say needs reconsideration | Feb 27 11:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439079866617835520 | Feb 27 11:50 |
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| DaemonFC | [11:18] <MinceR> and yet capitalist economies are still massively more effective than communist ones. | Feb 27 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | The US economy is looking more like a communist one these days. | Feb 27 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | Try to sign up for internet service and you'll see what I mean. | Feb 27 12:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439085769379287041 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439088124350971904 | Feb 27 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tizen and Samsung http://t.co/0mh5nroVSM #tizen #android #samsung #linux | Feb 27 12:22 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9246609/Apple_retires_Snow_Leopard_from_support_leaves_1_in_5_Macs_vulnerable_to_attacks | Feb 27 12:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | Apple retires Snow Leopard from support, leaves 1 in 5 Macs vulnerable to attacks - Computerworld [ http://ur1.ca/gpo7j ] | Feb 27 12:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Uhhhm, if they had $3,000 for the computer, then why can't they upgrade the operating system? | Feb 27 12:25 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 27 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | Dick Cheney is alive with no pulse. | Feb 27 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | I think that they're sneaking human victims to him so that he can eat their flesh and brains at this point. It's the only possible explanation for why he's still alive. | Feb 27 12:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Nyssen11/status/439100786128478208 | Feb 27 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Nyssen11: @schestowitz So you like FF phones = ZTE & Alcatel = "ethical companies" ? | Feb 27 13:14 | |
| Sosumi | snow leopard has been unsupported after mountain lion was released | Feb 27 13:24 |
| Sosumi | aka 2012 | Feb 27 13:25 |
| Sosumi | with the only updates it received after that | Feb 27 13:26 |
| Sosumi | being very critical stuff | Feb 27 13:26 |
| Sosumi | also, lion isn't supported anymore | Feb 27 13:28 |
| Sosumi | only mountain lion and moronicks are supported at moment | Feb 27 13:28 |
| Sosumi | until the next release comes in | Feb 27 13:29 |
| Sosumi | then mountain lion loses support | Feb 27 13:29 |
| MinceR | re | Feb 27 13:36 |
| MinceR | 173027 < msb> No. If they US had not backed the fascists and attacked the north, the whole country would be free now. | Feb 27 13:36 |
| MinceR | citation needed | Feb 27 13:36 |
| MinceR | 173340 < msb> Since there's no doubt already plenty of kiddyporn available, no more children need be molested to make more. | Feb 27 13:36 |
| MinceR | it's a pity catholic priests won't settle for porn | Feb 27 13:36 |
| MinceR | 192507 < Sosumi> snow leopard has been unsupported after mountain lion was released | Feb 27 13:38 |
| MinceR | extra confusion: Mountain Lion is supported but Puma isn't | Feb 27 13:38 |
| MinceR | but those are the same species. | Feb 27 13:38 |
| Sosumi | spelling or grammar errors happen when I'm working and just give a quick glance to the irc window | Feb 27 13:42 |
| MinceR | i didn't notice any, nor was looking for them :> | Feb 27 13:43 |
| Sosumi | forget the names of the cats | Feb 27 13:43 |
| MinceR | i'm making fun of crApple's naming decisions | Feb 27 13:43 |
| Sosumi | 10.6 lost support in 2012 | Feb 27 13:43 |
| Sosumi | not now | Feb 27 13:43 |
| MinceR | they should release Cougar next | Feb 27 13:44 |
| Sosumi | crapple kills support for their OS after the 2nd release | Feb 27 13:44 |
| Sosumi | a cougar is a mountain lion | Feb 27 13:44 |
| MinceR | and so's a puma | Feb 27 13:44 |
| MinceR | their "support" is worthless, their critical security updates lag for ages | Feb 27 13:44 |
| Sosumi | or a 40 - 50 years old women wearing heavy make up and provocative clothing | Feb 27 13:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 27 13:45 |
| MinceR | that might be a bit too long for a codename, though | Feb 27 13:45 |
| Sosumi | trying to score some hits with younger guys | Feb 27 13:45 |
| Sosumi | if that surprises you, then imagine the time they take until they acknowledge there's an issue | Feb 27 13:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 27 13:46 |
| MinceR | they still acknowledge issues faster than their fans do :> | Feb 27 13:47 |
| Sosumi | they still haven't fixed the thunderebolt sleep issues | Feb 27 13:47 |
| Sosumi | their 2011 laptops with amd gpus seem to be dying | Feb 27 13:47 |
| Sosumi | apparently in the same fashion all the gt8600m laptops did | Feb 27 13:48 |
| Sosumi | back in 2008 | Feb 27 13:48 |
| Sosumi | or 2007 | Feb 27 13:48 |
| Sosumi | with blurred lines and artifacts | Feb 27 13:49 |
| Sosumi | until no video signal | Feb 27 13:49 |
| MinceR | see, that's the famous crApple quality :> | Feb 27 13:49 |
| Sosumi | the problem is with amd | Feb 27 13:50 |
| Sosumi | actually it is with both | Feb 27 13:51 |
| Sosumi | I actually think the part is failing due to heat stress | Feb 27 13:51 |
| Sosumi | given the poor cooling design on the unibody macbooks | Feb 27 13:51 |
| Sosumi | and amd for failing to build a part actually capable to handle the stress according to their specification | Feb 27 13:52 |
| Sosumi | the case with the nvidia gt8600m was a defective batch | Feb 27 13:52 |
| Sosumi | since failings were not only happening on crapple laptops but also hp's | Feb 27 13:53 |
| Sosumi | something similar also happened with the gt8800 gpus | Feb 27 13:57 |
| msb | MinceR: Catholic priests are forbidden from having sex, which is always done for control purposes. That's the primary problem there. Also, gay kiddyporn is illegal, so they would have a hard time getting it. | Feb 27 13:59 |
| msb | MinceR: As to korea, I F Stone wrote about it. Students from north and south were demonstrating for unification. My claim that if the US had not backed the fascist torturer/murderer in the south, and had not bombed strafed napalmed 30% of the population in the north, that a united country would be free, is a deduction. | Feb 27 14:02 |
| msb | Govts always become (more) authoritarian when their nation is subjected to a genocidal attack. Attempting to survive. | Feb 27 14:03 |
| MinceR | they had russia and red china nearby trying to make as many commie states as they could | Feb 27 14:15 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/1IWjMjk.png | Feb 27 14:17 |
| Sosumi | task manager telling that at least an instance of task manager isn't working | Feb 27 14:33 |
| Sosumi | lol m$ | Feb 27 14:33 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/deep-black-more-details-on-boeings-new-secure-android-smartphone/ | Feb 27 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Deep Black: More details on Boeing’s new secure Android smartphone | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gppqd ] | Feb 27 15:34 | |
| Sosumi | do you want one? | Feb 27 15:34 |
| Sosumi | I don't | Feb 27 15:34 |
| MinceR | i'm fine with my current phone for now | Feb 27 15:34 |
| MinceR | i'm waiting for tizen, mostly :> | Feb 27 15:34 |
| Sosumi | I still think that nexus 5 with a custom rom or android open source > all | Feb 27 15:34 |
| MinceR | yeah, it seems good | Feb 27 15:35 |
| MinceR | not sure if it works with only free software, though | Feb 27 15:35 |
| Sosumi | well ofc not, the android implementation on the boeing phone is close source | Feb 27 15:37 |
| Sosumi | just like the samsung version | Feb 27 15:37 |
| Sosumi | and the modification they the knox platform | Feb 27 15:37 |
| Sosumi | *call | Feb 27 15:37 |
| MinceR | pft | Feb 27 15:37 |
| Sosumi | if only google had released android under gpl | Feb 27 15:38 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 27 15:38 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Feb 27 15:38 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 27 15:38 |
| MinceR | hay sebsebseb | Feb 27 15:38 |
| Sosumi | sebsebseb, have you finally made the "big" jump? | Feb 27 15:39 |
| MinceR | rocket jump with quad damage? | Feb 27 15:40 |
| MinceR | redeemer jump? | Feb 27 15:40 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: what big jump ? | Feb 27 15:41 |
| Sosumi | onto the macintosh, of course :) | Feb 27 15:41 |
| MinceR | interesting way to break it | Feb 27 15:41 |
| Sosumi | sebsebseb, cheer on | Feb 27 15:44 |
| Sosumi | just a trolling attempt :P | Feb 27 15:44 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/spy-agency-intercepts-yahoo-webcam-chats-nudes-and-all/ | Feb 27 16:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Spy agency intercepts Yahoo webcam chats, nudes and all | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/gpq0l ] | Feb 27 16:02 | |
| Sosumi | probably there's no longer enough budget left for a playboy subscription | Feb 27 16:05 |
| MinceR | consensual doesn't turn them on | Feb 27 16:07 |
| Sosumi | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | Feb 27 16:07 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/02/26/352307/german-economic-powerhouse-on-sand/ | Feb 27 16:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.presstv.com | PressTV - German economy a process of brutal exploitation: Economist [ http://ur1.ca/gpqdx ] | Feb 27 16:44 | |
| Sosumi | it is true | Feb 27 16:44 |
| Sosumi | finally, someone wrote about it | Feb 27 16:44 |
| MinceR | http://kep.cdn.index.hu/1/0/558/5583/55835/5583524_00ce04802323799cc0e5e05cef030f7d_wm.jpg | Feb 27 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx10N7ZSXPIL35T | Feb 27 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Church sign in Harlem [ http://ur1.ca/gpqo3 ] | Feb 27 17:16 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 27 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | It just goes to prove that black Christians can be just as crazy as white Christians. | Feb 27 17:16 |
| DaemonFC | I think it speaks volumes for how far they've come in the world, where a white Christian bigot such as yourself is perfectly comfortable quoting a black Christian bigot. | Feb 27 17:17 |
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| DaemonFC | I really need to get some decaf coffee. | Feb 27 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 27 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | Why does California have the most lawyers while New Jersey has the most toxic waste dumps? | Feb 27 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | New Jersey got the first pick. | Feb 27 19:28 |
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| msb | Sosumi: That presstv article about the German economy is very good! Thanks! | Feb 27 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | I don't feel like cooking tonight, | Feb 27 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | I might just make some beefaroni for dinner. | Feb 27 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | msb: Can you believe people feed this stuff to their kids? | Feb 27 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | Probably made of diseased animal remnants. | Feb 27 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | Probably requires an enema to flush it back out... | Feb 27 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | People feed it to their kids. | Feb 27 19:57 |
| msb | DaemonFC: I just ate a "fire-grilled steak" + veg + rice mix brandname "Evol". Delicious! $4 from Safeway. | Feb 27 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | We don't have Safeway here. | Feb 27 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's Walmart or Kroger. | Feb 27 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | Fort Wayne has Meijer as well, and maybe a Marsh or two if they haven't closed. | Feb 27 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | Marsh is really expensive. | Feb 27 20:00 |
| msb | DaemonFC: beefaroni is actually made from dead diseased animals. They have to be dead for at least a week to be cheap enough. | Feb 27 20:00 |
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| msb | Evol is a new brand. But not a safeway brand. Maybe it's at one of your supermarkets. | Feb 27 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. | Feb 27 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | ibotta has been offering me like a dollar or something to buy one of their frozen burritos | Feb 27 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Feb 27 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | I should really start buying that whole wheat pasta. | Feb 27 20:03 |
| msb | Red Baron pizzas are good. Blot the fat off after you nuke them, and sprinkle on garlic and oregano to taste. Sometimes $3.50, usually $7. Feeds two. | Feb 27 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, feeds two means that I'll eat two of them. | Feb 27 20:03 |
| msb | I'm big and am overstuffed after eating one. | Feb 27 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | I like those special deluxe ones. | Feb 27 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | and the Mexican ones if I can find them. | Feb 27 20:04 |
| msb | I should leave some for another meal but it tastes too good. | Feb 27 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | I can eat a whole one. | Feb 27 20:04 |
| msb | yes, I get the special deluxe type. | Feb 27 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | I liked to dump jalapeno peppers and sour cream and salsa all over the mexican ones. | Feb 27 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | I usually only eat once a day. | Feb 27 20:05 |
| msb | Woof! | Feb 27 20:05 |
| msb | With cheap food and free porn one can live a happy life! | Feb 27 20:06 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah....... | Feb 27 20:06 |
| DaemonFC | Well, porn isn't very interactive, but at least there aren't any fights and there's an off button when you want it to go away. | Feb 27 20:07 |
| msb | I even made a bash script using mplayer that loads specified videos and plays specified spans of them at specified speeds, and repeats. | Feb 27 20:08 |
| msb | mplayer has a whole programmable interface, very easy to use, takes commands from stdin and prints location in seconds to stdout. No C programming needed, just bash. | Feb 27 20:10 |
| msb | I also wrote one to remove channel logos from TV videos. | Feb 27 20:11 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't like those. It turns the logo into a translucent blob. | Feb 27 20:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Windows intuitive http://t.co/Bh7EmXydTL | Feb 27 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #gchq hires perverts not only to spy on porn surfing habits of "targets" http://t.co/J9erQi1Bkt | Feb 27 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Spy agency intercepts Yahoo webcam chats, nudes and all | Ars Technica | Feb 27 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Not just #microsoft #skype exposes videos in real-time to creepy British+US spies http://t.co/s2yMYosyMY ... https://t.co/kKNx4R5GwC | Feb 27 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | GCHQ's interception and storage of Yahoo webcam images condemned | World news | theguardian.com | Feb 27 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joindiaspora.com | Not just #microso... | Feb 27 20:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439212615190216706 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439212680046710784 | Feb 27 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Apple retires Snow Leopard from support, leaves 1 in 5 Macs vulnerable http://t.co/IOX8P5jvWL pay up or die: hallmark of nonfree software | Feb 27 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworld.com | Apple retires Snow Leopard from support, leaves 1 in 5 Macs vulnerable to attacks - Computerworld | Feb 27 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Yesterday, for the first time, I checked log files for varnish at #tuxmachines and #techrights : ~1000 lines per second. | Feb 27 20:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Uhhm, I did some stuff on Yahoo webcam, but it was like 10-11 years ago... | Feb 27 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care if they recorded it. I don't consider it embarrassing. | Feb 27 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | The only reason this stuff has blackmail value is because people find it embarrassing, which is ridiculous. | Feb 27 20:42 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.reddit.com/r/Frugal/comments/1nn24w/help_me_out_with_a_cheap_beefaroni_clone/ | Feb 27 20:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Help me out with a cheap Beefaroni clone! : Frugal [ http://ur1.ca/gps9w ] | Feb 27 20:49 | |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how much cheaper it gets. I got it for 65 cents per can on sale + coupons. | Feb 27 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | msb: My stepdad's sister is on some kind of heart healthy diet or something. | Feb 27 20:53 |
| DaemonFC | Her cardiologist said "If it tastes good, spit it out.". | Feb 27 20:53 |
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| msb | That's ridiculous! Take ubiquinol, carnitine, vit E, vit C, B vits, fish oil for heart. | Feb 27 20:58 |
| BfreeCsex | any wone here ? | Feb 27 20:59 |
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| msb | mplayer delogo works like this, and blends in very well. You specify a rectangle that wholly (but barely) contains the logo. For any point inside the rectangle, extend a horizontal line and a vertical line to the sides of the rectangle, making 4 intersection points. Average the color of those 4 points and make the internal point that color. | Feb 27 21:00 |
| msb | You can specify multiple rectangles if there's more than one logo. | Feb 27 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | msb: there are plenty of fruits and vegetables that you can eat raw that are perfectly find for a heart healthy diet. | Feb 27 21:02 |
| msb | PF Chang frozen chinese food is yummy. | Feb 27 21:02 |
| DaemonFC | That doctor is an idiot. | Feb 27 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439215348521652224 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439215777385025536 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216013344010240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216205980008448 | Feb 27 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: GNOME Display Manager 3.12 Beta 1 Brings FreeBSD Build Fixes http://t.co/S7GZPfA4aI #bsd #freebsd #gnome | Feb 27 21:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Boeing makes Orwellian phones with #android #linux http://t.co/MRJNxKK0Y2 http://t.co/c1OQOfw6NU like #ibm 'innovation': self destruction | Feb 27 21:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eweek.com | Blackphone, Boeing Self-Destructing Phone Are Security Motivated | Feb 27 21:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Mobile Linux OSes Innovate, Cut Costs as Smartphone Market Slows http://t.co/Gp24hvxONo #linux | Feb 27 21:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Shuttleworth says Ubuntu is sticking with MySQL http://t.co/YDbAm4UkFh #oracle #mysql #canonical #ubuntu | Feb 27 21:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Debian for OpenRISC http://t.co/5LYWWVjilg #risc #debian #gnu #linux | Feb 27 21:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Four Chrome extensions to make #Chromebook web reading easier http://t.co/kBs1yVZhI8 #gnu #linux #google | Feb 27 21:03 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Four Chrome extensions to make #Chromebook web reading easier http://t.co/kBs1yVZhI8 #gnu #linux #google | Feb 27 21:03 | |
| msb | Personally I favor grape tomatoes and navel oranges. But I take lots of vitamins. | Feb 27 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | I like those months when Subway has any footlong for $5. | Feb 27 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439217232691077122 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439217376320827392 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439217688121192448 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439218010507976704 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/439216941740593153 | Feb 27 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #YunTab S5 Android phone uses 3D infrared for secure face unlock http://t.co/GCB8kbUa3a #android #linux | Feb 27 21:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> reviews.cnet.com | YunTab S5 Android phone uses 3D infrared for secure face unlock | Mobile World Congress - CNET Reviews | Feb 27 21:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Exciting Features Coming For Qt 5.3 http://t.co/cxd6RYFVtC #qt #kde | Feb 27 21:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Exciting Features Coming For Qt 5.3 | Feb 27 21:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google may start selling Ara phones for $50 http://t.co/L3tKZhHQBQ #ara #google #android #linux | Feb 27 21:04 | |
| DaemonFC | I end up eating subs every day. :P | Feb 27 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Google may start selling Ara phones for $50 | Muktware | Feb 27 21:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Android/Linux Overtakes XP on Weekends http://t.co/o2gUZu3R7L people leave offices with #microsoft | Feb 27 21:04 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: To avoid Android pitfalls, Mozilla shoulders Firefox OS update burden http://t.co/ZHC4cA7lOR #android #firefoxos #firefox #linux | Feb 27 21:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> reviews.cnet.com | To avoid Android pitfalls, Mozilla shoulders Firefox OS update burden | Mobile World Congress - CNET Reviews | Feb 27 21:04 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz__: The version of Android you run doesn't actually matter all that much. | Feb 27 21:10 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3699326 | Feb 27 21:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Android/Linux Ove... | Feb 27 21:11 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I'm always skeptical of these statistics." | Feb 27 21:11 |
| msb | DaemonFC: When you eat lunchmeat (eg, subs) containing nitrite, drink a few grams of vitamin C to neutralize the nitrosamines that otherwise can cause colon cancer. | Feb 27 21:31 |
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| DaemonFC | msb: The colon is quite a disgusting thing. | Feb 27 21:34 |
| msb | We're all full of shit. | Feb 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Over the course of months or years, slime and encrusted fecal matter, etc. can build up in it, and well, it can cause a whole lot of bad things to happen. | Feb 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | From constipation, to bloating, gas, even a bowel impaction. | Feb 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. The occasional enema is not a bad idea. | Feb 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC | Or an osmotic laxative. | Feb 27 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | Miralax every once in a while can help keep things moving. | Feb 27 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | But, the biggest problem that most people seem to have is not remaining hydrated well enough. | Feb 27 21:36 |
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| DaemonFC | A person my size should be drinking 3 liters of water every day. | Feb 27 21:37 |
| msb | The idea that stuff builds up on the inside of the colon is nonsense. Unless you are severely dehydrated, the colon secretes mucus that keeps anything from sticking. | Feb 27 21:37 |
| msb | And if you eat enough fruits and vegetables, the fiber will retain enough water to keep the shit soft. | Feb 27 21:38 |
| DaemonFC | Then what is that godawful sludge that an enema forces out? | Feb 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | I've read conflicting reports about whether colonic irrigation is recommended or even safe. | Feb 27 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | Some doctors seem to say yes, and other seem to say no. | Feb 27 21:40 |
| msb | It's a scam and a racket. | Feb 27 21:40 |
| msb | Remember that people with HIV secrete virus into their colon. | Feb 27 21:41 |
| msb | So those colonic dives are unsafe. | Feb 27 21:42 |
| abeNd-org1 | better to just eat healthy & excercise to begin with. stay healthy, a lot easier than trying to get healthy again | Feb 27 21:43 |
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| DaemonFC | I've dated a few people who have that, but I do not have it. | Feb 27 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Budas Root says: | Feb 27 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | It's not a crime to dislike fundies. In fact, if I owned a bakery I'd refuse to make cakes for fundies no matter how much money they offered to pay me. | Feb 27 22:10 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Feb 27 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'd bake them a cake. | Feb 27 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | It would be like that movie "The Help" where the black lady made that mean woman the pie with her **** in it and then waited until she had eaten half of it and then said "Eat my ****!". | Feb 27 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | What did you say? | Feb 27 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | "I said EAT MY ****!" | Feb 27 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b675xQ1X20 | Feb 27 22:10 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3699299 | Feb 28 02:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | First Beta of Epi... | Feb 28 02:43 | |
| schestowitz__ | "looks very...chromeish" | Feb 28 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "looks very...chrome ish" | Feb 28 02:43 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/02/tories-campaign-against-scottish-independence-shock/ | Feb 28 02:48 |
| schestowitz__ | "Standard Life also threatened to leave at the time of the devolution referendum and gave out no campaign materials to staff. “Leave” of course is a relative concept – the above bunch just pop up from London from time to time to check on how the serfs are doing.' | Feb 28 02:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » Tories Campaign Against Scottish Independence (Shock) [ http://ur1.ca/gpup2 ] | Feb 28 02:48 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Feb 28 06:06 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3695848 | Feb 28 06:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Obama Requests NS... | Feb 28 06:07 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I hope you're right Roy. I hope you're right." | Feb 28 06:07 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: I've just made this http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/46608003.jpg | Feb 28 06:12 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 28 06:16 |
| Sosumi | more issues with trashcan pro | Feb 28 06:19 |
| Sosumi | http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1711435 | Feb 28 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | MacPro 2013 Random Restarts - MacRumors Forums [ http://ur1.ca/gpwec ] | Feb 28 06:19 | |
| Sosumi | apparently even crapple can't build their toys properly anymore | Feb 28 06:19 |
| Sosumi | their kind of turning into the M$ of the hardware business | Feb 28 06:20 |
| Sosumi | *they're | Feb 28 06:20 |
| MinceR | they were unable to for ages | Feb 28 06:22 |
| MinceR | (see crApple III) | Feb 28 06:22 |
| MinceR | and they've been the other m$ for a long time now | Feb 28 06:23 |
| Sosumi | don't go that far | Feb 28 06:23 |
| Sosumi | I wasn't around during that time | Feb 28 06:23 |
| MinceR | i wasn't around either | Feb 28 06:25 |
| Sosumi | but from what I remember their g5 powermacs, later powerbooks were quite solid | Feb 28 06:25 |
| Sosumi | the xserve was nice too, but prone to be bent | Feb 28 06:25 |
| MinceR | in that they weren't liquid, gaseous or plasma | Feb 28 06:25 |
| Sosumi | the issue with the leaks was due to some defective rings on the pumps manufactured and assembled by delphi | Feb 28 06:26 |
| Sosumi | the panasonic models didn't have that problem | Feb 28 06:26 |
| Sosumi | I have one of those, a quad g5, and is still working like champ | Feb 28 06:27 |
| Sosumi | and they didn't have these major crappings and issues left unfixed for months or years | Feb 28 06:27 |
| Sosumi | damm I even remember when World of Warcraft ran faster on OSX than it did on XP | Feb 28 06:28 |
| Sosumi | and the mac client having built in video capture | Feb 28 06:28 |
| Sosumi | while the windows version didn't | Feb 28 06:28 |
| MinceR | yes, crApple always fails to choose their suppliers -- or adds pointless gimmicks that turn proven designs into dangerous failures | Feb 28 06:29 |
| Sosumi | just like HP? no nippon-chemi, rubicon nor fujitsu capacitors on their z820 workstation | Feb 28 06:30 |
| MinceR | at least hp doesn't have their Mag"Safe"s :> | Feb 28 06:31 |
| Sosumi | also the first time I saw the delphi brand was on a car radiator | Feb 28 06:31 |
| Sosumi | and they are ok | Feb 28 06:32 |
| MinceR | what brand of car? | Feb 28 06:32 |
| Sosumi | it was even manufactured in poortugal and everything | Feb 28 06:32 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 28 06:32 |
| Sosumi | a ford | Feb 28 06:32 |
| MinceR | Found On Road Dead | Feb 28 06:32 |
| Sosumi | ford fiesta from 2002 | Feb 28 06:32 |
| MinceR | Fix Or Replace Daily | Feb 28 06:32 |
| Sosumi | I think | Feb 28 06:32 |
| Sosumi | ^^ | Feb 28 06:32 |
| Sosumi | what about renault? | Feb 28 06:32 |
| MinceR | afaik french cars are famous for being unreliable | Feb 28 06:33 |
| MinceR | but at least they also tend to be cheap :> | Feb 28 06:33 |
| Sosumi | :) | Feb 28 06:33 |
| Sosumi | my ranault 21 has been quite reliable | Feb 28 06:33 |
| Sosumi | as for the magsafes they ended up making the connector out of aluminum ir order to prevent melting | Feb 28 06:36 |
| Sosumi | which is kind of lol | Feb 28 06:36 |
| MinceR | it's a pity aluminum is conductive | Feb 28 06:36 |
| MinceR | and also conducts heat | Feb 28 06:36 |
| Sosumi | I was going to say that | Feb 28 06:36 |
| Sosumi | with the added joke of roasted mactard | Feb 28 06:37 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 28 06:37 |
| MinceR | https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552 | Feb 28 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@danbarker: .@mattcutts I think I have spotted one, Matt. Note the similarities in the content text: http://t.co/uHux3rK57f | Feb 28 07:51 | |
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| Sosumi | yanukovich said west instigated the riots | Feb 28 08:57 |
| Sosumi | then why play chicken? say that in public tv and order a clamp down? | Feb 28 08:58 |
| Sosumi | simple and clean | Feb 28 08:59 |
| Sosumi | ínstead of fleeing to russia with his tail in between his legs | Feb 28 08:59 |
| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/joeman42/status/430783817075675136/photo/1 | Feb 28 09:02 |
| Sosumi | god's chosen people | Feb 28 09:02 |
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| Sosumi | which also happen to be eastern europeans | Feb 28 09:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joeman42: Zionist Settlers taunt Palestinian lady after they evict her from her home. #BDS http://t.co/7EJRYkV2IN | Feb 28 09:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@joeman42: Zionist Settlers taunt Palestinian lady after they evict her from her home. #BDS http://t.co/7EJRYkV2IN | Feb 28 09:02 | |
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| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/F0IuVwv.png | Feb 28 10:02 |
| MinceR | http://i.imgur.com/yUONX8k.jpg | Feb 28 10:05 |
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| Agnesi | https://twitter.com/Navsteva/status/439422702693011456/photo/1 | Feb 28 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Navsteva: Potty-mouthed Vicky Nuland gets her new government in #Ukraine http://t.co/QSFFi5RfKU http://t.co/gcPYLjfKen | Feb 28 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> larouchepac.com | Vicky Nuland Gets Her New Government in Ukraine | Feb 28 10:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Navsteva: Potty-mouthed Vicky Nuland gets her new government in #Ukraine http://t.co/QSFFi5RfKU http://t.co/gcPYLjfKen | Feb 28 10:51 | |
| Agnesi | too bad the post is sponsored by Lyndon Larouche | Feb 28 10:51 |
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| Sosumi | and I can't believe it | Feb 28 10:56 |
| Sosumi | that old fossil is still alive | Feb 28 10:56 |
| Sosumi | with 90 somethings years old | Feb 28 10:57 |
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| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/dJF9sPY | Feb 28 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Hands down the best stencil art I've seen out here in Afghanistan - Imgur | Feb 28 14:56 | |
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| Sosumi | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57619685-92/ibm-laying-off-up-to-25-percent-of-hardware-division/ | Feb 28 16:53 |
| Sosumi | IBM gutting itself up | Feb 28 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.cnet.com | IBM laying off up to 25 percent of 'hardware' division | Business Tech - CNET News [ http://ur1.ca/gq1zg ] | Feb 28 16:53 | |
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| Agnesi | and freenode seems to be unstable | Feb 28 16:53 |
| Agnesi | also situation in ukraine worse now | Feb 28 16:54 |
| Agnesi | as things go | Feb 28 16:54 |
| Agnesi | crimea is to separate from ukraine | Feb 28 16:54 |
| MinceR | will it be annexed by russia? | Feb 28 16:55 |
| Agnesi | with pro russian militias taking over borders, parliament and at least a tv station | Feb 28 16:55 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Feb 28 18:03 |
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| sebsebseb_ | jono: ping. I would like to get some Ubuntu stuff if possible for an event on 15th March. I had contacted people before, but no good. mmhallsuggested filling in a form, looking at that now, it seems to be for an amount of money etc. apparnatly it woul go directy to you as well | Feb 28 18:41 |
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| MinceR | gn | Feb 28 20:15 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-us-ukraine-20140301,0,3629725,full.story | Feb 28 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | It looks like Russia is beginning their invasion of Ukraine. | Feb 28 22:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'm pissed that ebay stopped people from selling coupons. | Feb 28 23:44 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3703004 | Mar 01 02:26 |
| schestowitz__ | "I would be a lot happier if people were building out their own networks and peering with each other in addition to yelling loudly at the government overlords. Which, by the way, usually get into office with the money of the very people who are causing problem we want fixed." | Mar 01 02:26 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC: sounds to me like Western propaganda | Mar 01 02:27 |
| schestowitz__ | I heard it on the radio here this morning | Mar 01 02:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Remember the Western role played in the coup | Mar 01 02:27 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3700197 | Mar 01 02:35 |
| schestowitz__ | "In other words, they are doing nothing to fix the concerns of the people, doing everything they can to increase the serveilance of those very people, all the while telling everybody that they are fixing things." | Mar 01 02:35 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3700179 | Mar 01 02:37 |
| schestowitz__ | "Face to face, with no electronics nearby that can be hacked and turned into microphones..." | Mar 01 02:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3705121 | Mar 01 02:37 |
| schestowitz__ | "Roling on the floor laughing !" | Mar 01 02:37 |
| schestowitz__ | http://rt.com/news/un-ukraine-russia-agreements-278/ | Mar 01 02:44 |
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| msb | schestowitz__: Right, Roy, the U.S. invaded Ukraine using hordes of armed masked nazis as proxies, and now Obomber is telling Russia to keep out of it. | Mar 01 02:50 |
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| DaemonFC | Shit. | Mar 01 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | A snow storm with 6-10 inches of snow possible will occur this evening. | Mar 01 03:16 |
| DaemonFC | This is basically unheard of. | Mar 01 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen this happen in March. Ever. | Mar 01 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | Hell, just two years ago, it we over 80 degrees for nearly two weeks in the middle of March. | Mar 01 03:17 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I had better go grocery shopping. | Mar 01 03:18 |
| DaemonFC | Samsung has announced the Galaxy S5, apparently. | Mar 01 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | The specs are not that much better than my LG G2. | Mar 01 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | The LG G2 has a Snapdragon 800 and 2 GB of RAM. The G5 has a Snapdragon 801 and 2 GB of RAM. | Mar 01 03:19 |
| DaemonFC | I believe that Samsung is known for piling on custom crap that slows down their phones though. | Mar 01 03:20 |
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| DaemonFC | I'd better get to ALDI when they open. | Mar 01 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | People go apeshit when a snowstorm is approaching. | Mar 01 04:48 |
| DaemonFC | They'll probably be out of everything if I don't get there soon. | Mar 01 04:49 |
| DaemonFC | I'm out of almost everything. I've been choking down stuff that I bought and threw in the freezer months ago without thinking about for nearly a week now, just so I could get rid of it without wasting money. | Mar 01 04:55 |
| DaemonFC | The good news is that most of it is gone now and won't be wasted, but the bad news is that I'm really craving some good food right now. :) | Mar 01 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx3NLMLDXFC3YAR&newContentID=Mx3PNZBCI38A89Q#Mx3PNZBCI38A89Q | Mar 01 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The Motley Fool wonders aloud about whether Walmart will fail soon. [ http://ur1.ca/gq67j ] | Mar 01 05:27 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 01 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/02/02/could-wal-mart-be-the-next-giant-failure-in-retail.aspx | Mar 01 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | A few days after CNBC reported on Walmart's negative year over year same store sales comp, and suggested that they should start shutting down stores, starting with the 100 least profitable, The Motley Fool writes an article expressing similar pessimism about Walmart's future in retail, musing that it's possible to see Walmart in bankruptcy protection within several years if these trends continue. | Mar 01 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fool.com | Could Wal-Mart Be the Next Giant Failure in Retail? (WMT) [ http://ur1.ca/gq67o ] | Mar 01 05:27 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.rantlifestyle.com/2014/02/20/business-plan-wal-mart-revealed/ | Mar 01 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rantlifestyle.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/gq67p ] | Mar 01 05:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, another article notes that the stores are understocked, filthy, and staffed by employees who are unmotivated. The lack of motivation is understandable. Minimum wage part time jobs with no job security or benefits package tends to cause that attitude. | Mar 01 05:27 |
| DaemonFC | http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/09/24/2669191/walmart-adds-fulltime-workers/ | Mar 01 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | After Sales Plummet, Walmart Realizes It Can't Run Stores On Temps Alone [ http://ur1.ca/gq67q ] | Mar 01 05:27 | |
| DaemonFC | For the past couple of years, an unprecedented number of Walmart workers are temps, who have low pay and no benefits, and don't even know if they'll have a job in three months. The figure is up to 20% of a store's employees. These people are forced to re-interview for their job every 90 days. | Mar 01 05:27 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Mar 01 09:55 |
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| DaemonFC | I got a roast kit while I was at ALDI. | Mar 01 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | I think I'll make that for dinner. | Mar 01 11:28 |
| Sosumi | in soviet russia, roasting kit as you for diner at the ALDI store | Mar 01 11:30 |
| Sosumi | :) | Mar 01 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | The local KMart is going out of business. | Mar 01 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | That's sad. Now it's just down to Walmart and Big Lots. | Mar 01 11:31 |
| Sosumi | no small stores around? | Mar 01 11:31 |
| Sosumi | other than those big retailers | Mar 01 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | not really | Mar 01 11:32 |
| Sosumi | sad | Mar 01 11:32 |
| schestowitz__ | aldi is good, but I started exploring alternatives | Mar 01 11:48 |
| schestowitz__ | the range in aldi is limited | Mar 01 11:48 |
| Sosumi | do you guys have lidl stores there in theUS? | Mar 01 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | no | Mar 01 11:49 |
| Sosumi | they're quite complete and often sell national produce | Mar 01 11:49 |
| Sosumi | :( | Mar 01 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even really look at the prices at aldi. I just know I'll get a good deal. | Mar 01 11:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3706253 | Mar 01 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Steam Family 'Sharing' of #DRM now open to public http://www.muktware.com/2014/03/steam-family-sharing-now-open-public/21950 sharing the unshare-able. #steam #gnu #linux | Mar 01 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Steam Family Sharing now open to public | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/gq8f3 ] | Mar 01 11:51 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Good, my sons will be ready soon to takeover my collection!" | Mar 01 11:51 |
| schestowitz__ | Until Valve decided to take it away | Mar 01 11:51 |
| schestowitz__ | *decides | Mar 01 11:51 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3706229 | Mar 01 11:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #RFID race (implants in people) was made obsolete by social and professional inertia that pressured people into carrying tracking gear | Mar 01 11:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | "In the US is was made obsolete by states telling the feds to fuck off lol..."\ | Mar 01 11:52 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706211 | Mar 01 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | No way to disable... | Mar 01 11:53 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I think Replicant would have helped more than tin foil ;)" | Mar 01 11:53 |
| schestowitz__ | Replicant still contacts the towers | Mar 01 11:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706137 | Mar 01 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | It was not a "rot... | Mar 01 11:54 | |
| schestowitz__ | "and when he resisted blackmail and continued to be effective, he was assassinated. Murder is in the toolbox." | Mar 01 11:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706043 | Mar 01 11:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Everyone should a... | Mar 01 11:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Hope iit becomes hot and catches on!" | Mar 01 11:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706017 | Mar 01 11:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | A lot of business... | Mar 01 11:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | "We've been making a list!!" | Mar 01 11:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706067 | Mar 01 11:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Wakeup call for C... | Mar 01 11:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | ""We can trust the NSA because without a doubt it is history's most powerful, pervasive, sophisticated surveillance agency ever to be totally pwned by a 29-year-old with a thumb drive," I would much rather he had gone to Trustycon, but you have to admit, that's pithy." | Mar 01 11:55 |
| schestowitz__ | Trustycon is funded by PRISM members like Microsoft. | Mar 01 11:56 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3706211 | Mar 01 12:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "Yeah I was just joking lol..." | Mar 01 12:01 |
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| msb | http://rt.com/op-edge/us-usa-staged-ukraine-coup-570/ | Mar 01 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | ‘US, EU staged classic regime change in Ukraine’ — RT Op-Edge [ http://ur1.ca/gq8wm ] | Mar 01 13:48 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Mar 01 15:17 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Mar 01 15:34 |
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| gde33 | I've been toying with all sorts of ideas for a rich peoples internet. All the fun [read paid] services that become possible all of a sudden. lol | Mar 01 16:59 |
| gde33 | I think we should look at it like football channel, a nice method to contain the phenomenon | Mar 01 17:00 |
| gde33 | thanks to football channel they dont have to put football on all of the other channels | Mar 01 17:00 |
| MinceR | unfortunately, this doesn't work with countries | Mar 01 17:00 |
| MinceR | everyone's got to get authoritarianism | Mar 01 17:01 |
| gde33 | a good advertisement program would primarly target the rich peoples internet | Mar 01 17:01 |
| gde33 | we could move all that stuff overthere :D | Mar 01 17:01 |
| gde33 | hahaha | Mar 01 17:01 |
| gde33 | all of our liars and all of our swindlers | Mar 01 17:01 |
| gde33 | imagine the joy? | Mar 01 17:02 |
| gde33 | I had annother idea | Mar 01 17:04 |
| gde33 | a web search that requires buying hardware to get access | Mar 01 17:05 |
| MinceR | ...per query | Mar 01 17:05 |
| gde33 | like a virtual private network with network attached storage at every node | Mar 01 17:05 |
| gde33 | then one would have to pay to get indexed | Mar 01 17:05 |
| gde33 | no crawler nonsense, full text search | Mar 01 17:06 |
| gde33 | you buy 1 node, make sure it stays active, then have access to the database | Mar 01 17:06 |
| gde33 | like a seedbox router | Mar 01 17:07 |
| gde33 | I suppose the user account could be credited for each query routed | Mar 01 17:11 |
| gde33 | bars of latinum | Mar 01 17:23 |
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| MinceR | gn | Mar 01 19:55 |
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| msb | Unfortunately, it's the people with little money who are the targets of the political liars and swindlers, because the poor/middle are numerous and cast most of the votes. | Mar 01 20:26 |
| msb | So the wealthy liars are going to make their content free. | Mar 01 20:27 |
| msb | Their media lying and swindling is how they stay in power. | Mar 01 20:28 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm glad I did my shopping this morning. | Mar 01 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | There's freezing rain outside right now. :P | Mar 01 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | uggh | Mar 01 22:31 |
| DaemonFC | I probably couldn't get my car anywhere right now if I wanted to. | Mar 01 22:31 |
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