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DaemonFChttp://games.slashdot.org/story/14/04/04/1818200/five-year-old-uncovers-xbox-one-login-flawApr 06 00:20
MinceRMicrosoft® Security™Apr 06 00:21
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Apr 06 04:00
DaemonFC"Firefox on a Crapple"Apr 06 04:00
DaemonFCI don't know what the point of that is. You can't pretend to have freedom when the software running the computer is undermining that from the minute you turn the machine on.Apr 06 04:00
DaemonFCApple doesn't really make computers. They make iTunes kiosks. In other words, toys for stupid people with too much money. The iThings are useless for general purpose computing, and the Macs are becoming more like that with every new version of OS X. Apr 06 04:00
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Sosumithey still haven't removed the terminalApr 06 09:03
Sosumibut it'll probably go away on the next release or so :)Apr 06 09:03
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DaemonFCThe Best Buy circular is out.Apr 06 10:01
DaemonFCThe trade in deal says it has to be a laptop running Windows XP.Apr 06 10:01
DaemonFCThe news articles just said "Windows XP PC".Apr 06 10:01
DaemonFCI might call the store and ask if desktop PCs qualify.Apr 06 10:01
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MinceRtheir terminal always suckedApr 06 12:15
MinceRgeekingsApr 06 12:19
Sosumiit's basically a copy past from bsdApr 06 12:51
Sosumi*pasteApr 06 12:51
MinceRyet pageup/pagedown is broken, for exampleApr 06 13:07
MinceRalso, i wonder how bsd used the osx windowing systemApr 06 13:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CyanogenMod reveals new branding thatApr 06 13:12
TweetTuxMachines                 represents openness, security and customizationApr 06 13:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/x3oxZlOWluApr 06 13:12
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Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/not-dead-yet-dutch-british-governments-pay-to-keep-windows-xp-alive/Apr 06 14:03
SosumiNot dead yet: Dutch, British governments pay to keep Windows XP aliveApr 06 14:03
cubezzzbsd was first with the window managersApr 06 14:11
cubezzz4.3bsd had X, Xqvss, Xqdss, Xsun along with xwm, uwm, and xnwmApr 06 14:17
cubezzzearliest versions ran on DEC VS100 displaysApr 06 14:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/452805008728158209Apr 06 14:50
cubezzzI wrote a simple script if anyone wants to experiment with Xnest and different window managers:Apr 06 15:01
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/xnest-mwm.shApr 06 15:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/candtalan/status/452812128257204225Apr 06 15:27
schestowitzcubezzz: publish it in some relevant siteApr 06 15:27
schestowitzit has no searchable info associated with itApr 06 15:28
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sebsebsebhi MinceR Sosumi XFaCE schestowitzApr 06 15:49
MinceRhayApr 06 15:49
sebsebsebMinceR: good and bad newsApr 06 15:49
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schestowitzhi, what's up?Apr 06 16:05
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3882651Apr 06 16:05
schestowitzhm... bot droppedApr 06 16:05
sebsebsebschestowitz: my Mum is finally going to let me  switch her over to LInuxApr 06 16:06
sebsebsebsince the XP end of lifeApr 06 16:06
sebsebsebwell once she's backed up and yeahApr 06 16:06
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75Apr 06 16:06
sebsebsebschestowitz: old lap top from 2005 or soApr 06 16:06
schestowitzhm... bot droppedApr 06 16:06
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3882651Apr 06 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/64746Apr 06 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesApr 06 16:06
schestowitzsebsebseb: that's not so old a laptopApr 06 16:07
schestowitzI have one from 1999, haven't booted it since 2011Apr 06 16:07
schestowitzHDD issuesApr 06 16:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: I got extenral CD/DVD  drive issuesApr 06 16:10
sebsebsebI asusme it'sm eant to be able to burn CD's/DVD's as well, butApr 06 16:10
sebsebsebthe one I bought for my netbook two years or so ago this isApr 06 16:10
sebsebseb,but it's  getting about half way or so, an then it stops,  and it's like the discs are blank still.  or  it puts a few fles on the discs and that's itApr 06 16:10
MinceRhttp://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-18/gm-recall-does-the-government-bailout-protect-it-from-liabilityApr 06 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessweek.com | GM Recall: Does the Government Bailout Protect It From Liability? - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/h08jf ]Apr 06 16:27
MinceRwow.Apr 06 16:27
MinceRhttp://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140331/BIZ/303310041/Apr 06 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.detroitnews.com | GM's immunity in recall questioned | The Detroit News [ http://ur1.ca/h08jq ]Apr 06 16:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/txJgyu4gfZApr 06 17:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h092bApr 06 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesApr 06 17:20
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3875025Apr 06 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Robolinux 7.4.2 Distro Can Keep Windows XP Running Inside Forever Without Viruses or Malware http://news.softpedia.com/news/Robolinux-7-4-2-Distro-Can-Keep-Windows-XP-Running-Inside-without-Viruses-or-Malware-435915.shtml #gnu #linux #winxpApr 06 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Robolinux 7.4.2 Distro Can Keep Windows XP Running Inside Forever Without Viruses or Malware [ http://ur1.ca/gzqxy ]Apr 06 18:27
schestowitz__"Apr 06 18:27
schestowitz__Good to know about a new Friendica pod. Although I already have an account there, I know just a little about their work. One thing that makes me happy is the interoperability between Friendica and Diaspora networks. For me it sounds like a beginning of a real democratic space for the users, where they can choose any pod from any network to store their own accounts based on their preferences.Apr 06 18:27
schestowitz__The federation here is working fine, and since the start of this new pod in Brazil, I have had no federation issues. It seems like the Diaspora* code is becoming stronger and more reliable on each release.Apr 06 18:27
schestowitz__"Apr 06 18:27
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schestowitz__nonsense of the day: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathansalembaskin/2014/04/05/microsoft-should-build-on-its-past-not-ignore-it/Apr 06 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Microsoft Should Build On Its Past, Not Ignore It - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/h0gmv ]Apr 06 18:56
schestowitz__warning: ForbesApr 06 18:56
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Sosumisebsebseb, just create a bootable usb stickApr 06 19:01
Sosumiand install it from thereApr 06 19:01
SosumiI also, don't even understand the reason ppl bother with optical media anymoreApr 06 19:02
sebsebsebSosumi: I get isues with dd and usb'sApr 06 19:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Wins Software Vendor of the Year atApr 06 19:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Channel Middle East Awards 2014Apr 06 19:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/qsNBl99r0wApr 06 19:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     'Akash tablets' to hit market soonApr 06 19:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WQroZqk72yApr 06 19:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Wins Software Vendor of the Year at Channel Middle East Awards 2014 | Tux MachinesApr 06 19:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tux Machines Turns 10 in a Couple of MonthsApr 06 19:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7tpLqYVRqfApr 06 19:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 'Akash tablets' to hit market soon | Tux MachinesApr 06 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Turns 10 in a Couple of Months | Tux MachinesApr 06 19:21
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/p/3883444Apr 06 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #UK voted strongl...Apr 06 19:40
schestowitz__"Apr 06 19:43
schestowitz__Yes but I would still stipulate that the state is the actual force ie people making the real threats against real education. For example say a school starts using Ubuntu for their primary OS. This may upset good ol' Bill and he may bribe (donate) a politician into drafting a law reversing this. It is the state that tells the teacher do this or be punished. Behind every decree of the state there is a gun.Apr 06 19:43
schestowitz__I would even go so far as to say that it is the state that artificially sustains the economic system that built Bill Gates to what he is now.Apr 06 19:43
schestowitz__"Apr 06 19:43
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3878273Apr 06 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Attitudes https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10153032_624833737604996_65496511_n.jpgApr 06 19:43
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3883475Apr 06 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #uprisings in #ukraine, 6th April 2014, #antifascist and #pro #russian #marches in #odessa, #zaporoje, #donetsk, #kharkov and #lugansk.Apr 06 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by rocapc@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_106c4aa2dc1682c043c1.jpgApr 06 19:45
schestowitz__"obviously, Russia doesn't want to let Ukraine to slip from their fingers. in that case, Ukraine will go towards middle ages together with Russia. I understand why Ukrainians don't want that. Russia should've become a country whichc doesn't have to force others to join union with them, instead of using military power, or power of money, or puppet governors like Yanukovich."Apr 06 19:46
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3883302Apr 06 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: R.I.P. Windows XP 2001-2014. What can you do now? http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/radiorahim/2014/04/rip-windows-xp-2001-2014-what-can-you-do-nowApr 06 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rabble.ca | R.I.P. Windows XP 2001-2014. What can you do now? | rabble.ca [ http://ur1.ca/h0hl9 ]Apr 06 20:01
schestowitz__"For similar experience - switch to Linux Mint Debian Edition MATE"Apr 06 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Acquia’s Dries Buytaert: It’s open-sourceApr 06 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 software that’ll eat the worldApr 06 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aVuFaFbo4SApr 06 20:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five Models For Open Source RevenueApr 06 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AzWsvKwoQ7Apr 06 20:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny Core 5.3 RC2 Is Probably the SmallestApr 06 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Distro Around http://t.co/FWaxXuIteyApr 06 20:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Acquia’s Dries Buytaert: It’s open-source software that’ll eat the world | Tux MachinesApr 06 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Five Models For Open Source Revenue | Tux MachinesApr 06 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny Core 5.3 RC2 Is Probably the Smallest Linux Distro Around | Tux MachinesApr 06 20:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NVIDIA Fermi/Kepler GPUs Are The Best Bet ForApr 06 21:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 14.04 Nouveau http://t.co/dppSKCPFwwApr 06 21:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA Fermi/Kepler GPUs Are The Best Bet For Ubuntu 14.04 Nouveau | Tux MachinesApr 06 21:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Steam Hardware Survey for March Shows SmallApr 06 21:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Decline for Linux http://t.co/mVkdW7GLQGApr 06 21:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Hardware Survey for March Shows Small Decline for Linux | Tux MachinesApr 06 21:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Building for Linux, the smart wayApr 06 21:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LsLNsXvUL3Apr 06 21:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Building for Linux, the smart way | Tux MachinesApr 06 21:29
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MinceRthe braindead savages of hungary have signed up for 4 more years of destruction >> http://www.politics.hu/20140406/2014-hungarian-national-election-liveblog-april-6/Apr 06 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.politics.hu | 2014 Hungarian national election liveblog: April 6 | Politics.hu [ http://ur1.ca/h0k7p ]Apr 06 23:21
DaemonFCI called Best Buy about that Windows XP for $100 store credit deal.Apr 06 23:21
DaemonFCIt turns out that the offer is only valid for laptops that you want to trade in.Apr 06 23:22
DaemonFCThey won't give you anything for a Windows XP desktop.Apr 06 23:22
MinceRpftApr 06 23:24
MinceRfalse advertising?Apr 06 23:24
sebsebsebDaemonFC: then what they sell on the ap tops or someting?Apr 06 23:26
sebsebseblapApr 06 23:26
DaemonFCMinceR: The news articles wrote the story before the ad came out.Apr 06 23:49
DaemonFCThe actual ad says "laptops".Apr 06 23:49
MinceRicApr 06 23:49
DaemonFCsebsebseb: You could use the credit for any computer Best Buy sells, including Chromebooks.Apr 06 23:50
DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/food/going-green-more-shopping-whole-foods-and-driving-priusApr 06 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org | Going 'Green' Is More Than Shopping at Whole Foods and Driving a Prius | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/h0klo ]Apr 06 23:57
DaemonFCI wouldn't shop at Whole Foods. The CEO is a crazy Ayn Rand worshiping Rand Paul style "Libertarian".Apr 06 23:57
DaemonFCHe's constantly attacked the requirements of the Affordable Care Act, because Whole Foods has a health insurance plan that's more like Walmart's. A $3,500 deductible, annual caps, and no mental health coverage at all.Apr 06 23:57
DaemonFCWhole Foods store security in some states carries handguns. What are they planning to do? Shoot a person who is hungry and stealing food?Apr 06 23:57
DaemonFCEven if they haven't shot anyone yet, and although I am not in a position where I would need to steal food, I don't like the idea that some armed private gestapo is watching me shop.Apr 06 23:57
MinceRwell, if they're dead, they won't be hungry ever again ;)Apr 07 00:04
MinceRgnApr 07 00:06
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DaemonFCMinceR: Alternet is bugging me.Apr 07 01:28
DaemonFCThey have a Javascript that seems to be intended to disable Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V to make it harder to copy and paste from their articles.Apr 07 01:29
DaemonFCbut it disables every hotkey combination, including  Ctrl+T for a new tab.Apr 07 01:29
DaemonFCIn the mean time, you can still select text with the mouse, right click, and click "copy".Apr 07 01:29
DaemonFChttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/04/06/1322236/not-just-apple-gnutls-bug-means-security-flaw-for-major-linux-distrosApr 07 01:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Not Just Apple: GnuTLS Bug Means Security Flaw For Major Linux Distros - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/h0l6e ]Apr 07 01:30
DaemonFCSlashdot just posted an inaccurate account of the gnutls bug that was patched more than a month ago.Apr 07 01:31
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/DOCSIS-Cable-Modem-Router-N450-100NAS/dp/B00HC0ZDOEApr 07 02:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: N450 WiFi DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem Router (N450-100NAS): Computers & Accessories [ http://ur1.ca/h0lm8 ]Apr 07 02:55
DaemonFCI decided to buy one of these. It's $100 up front, but then I can return my modem to Comcast and quit paying to rent it.Apr 07 02:55
DaemonFCThen my internet bill should be down to $20 a month. :)Apr 07 02:55
DaemonFCI've heard that Comcast won't give you a great deal on your internet package if you own your own equipment.Apr 07 03:32
DaemonFCSo, I got the 12 months at $19.99 locked in, and then bought my own equipment.Apr 07 03:32
DaemonFCMy AAA Sprint discount kicked in this month. It brought my bill down from $99 to $96. :)Apr 07 03:54
DaemonFCI've noticed lately, that Amazon says your order is over $35 and gets free super saver shipping, and then tried to default to "standard shipping" instead.Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFCIn the case of my modem, the estimated delivery date with "standard shipping" was April 10. With super saver, the estimated delivery date is the 11th (my birthday!).Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFCSo, 1 day sooner was going to cost an additional $9.65? Pass.Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFCThey've tripped me up on that a couple of times before, where I was sure that I selected super saver, but my invoice billed me for standard.Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFCI had to go in, cancel the order, and redo it with super saver.Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFCNot cool, Amazon. Not cool!Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFC http://adobochronicles.com/2014/03/31/american-psychiatric-association-makes-it-official-selfie-a-mental-disorder/ Apr 07 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adobochronicles.com | AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION MAKES IT OFFICIAL: ‘SELFIE’ A MENTAL DISORDER | The Adobo Chronicles [ http://ur1.ca/h0mhy ]Apr 07 05:13
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DaemonFCmsb_: I'm finding that going organic on some things isn't that much more expensive.Apr 07 06:26
DaemonFCBananas and coffee that are organic cost about the same as their non-organic counterparts.Apr 07 06:26
msb_DaemonFC: Hi!  Organic is great, especially if it's not sprayed with sulfuryl fluoride.Apr 07 06:32
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DaemonFCI'm a bit nervous about going with a Netgear cable gateway.Apr 07 06:36
DaemonFCI had one of their ADSL gateways and it was a bit flaky.Apr 07 06:37
DaemonFCBut, they're soooooooo much cheaper than Motorola...Apr 07 06:37
DaemonFCWe're talking $99 vs $139.Apr 07 06:37
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DaemonFCComcast says that this is an approved device that supports DOCSIS 3 and ipv6 on their network, and it has had level 1 certification.Apr 07 06:38
msb_I was having cable outages with comcrap until I insisted they give me a DOCSIS 3 modem.Apr 07 06:39
DaemonFCWhat really pissed me off is that they pushed an unwanted firmware update to my rented gateway that lets other Comcast customers log in without my permission and use my cable internet connection.Apr 07 06:39
DaemonFCYeah, I was the one that recommended that.Apr 07 06:39
DaemonFC:)Apr 07 06:39
msb_Thanks!Apr 07 06:39
DaemonFCDOCSIS 3 is much better. Even if your service level is the cheapest they have and is supported by DOCSIS 2....Apr 07 06:39
msb_How can others log in if theyApr 07 06:39
msb_'re not connected to it.Apr 07 06:40
msb_?Apr 07 06:40
DaemonFCIt creates a second wifi network called "COMCAST-GUEST".Apr 07 06:40
DaemonFCand it lets anyone log in with their comcast email address and password and be a parasite on your connection.Apr 07 06:41
DaemonFCYou're still only provisioned whatever speed level you subscribe to, but it lets them leech off of it.Apr 07 06:41
msb_Oh.  Mine doesn't have wifi and I don't use it anyhow.Apr 07 06:41
DaemonFCSo everything you're doing could slow to a halt.Apr 07 06:41
DaemonFCYeah, if it's just a modem, they can't do that.Apr 07 06:41
DaemonFCThey also can't do that if you own your equipment.Apr 07 06:41
msb_I just connect with ethernet.Apr 07 06:42
DaemonFCI can't do that.Apr 07 06:42
DaemonFCWell, I do with my desktop PC.Apr 07 06:42
msb_Some people think the wifi RF is intense enough to be dangerous -- cancer, etc.Apr 07 06:42
DaemonFCIt isn't possible to do that with my phone and it wouldn't be practical to do that with a laptop.Apr 07 06:42
DaemonFCI don't believe that it is.Apr 07 06:43
DaemonFCOne thing that I did notice about wifi routers is that the default settings tend to degrade performance.Apr 07 06:43
DaemonFCIf you don't have any wireless b or g devices, you should set it to "n" only.Apr 07 06:43
DaemonFCThat also gives you a small bit of extra security. Since nothing you use is wireless b or g, that would mean that anyone attempting to connect using those is not you.Apr 07 06:44
DaemonFC:)Apr 07 06:44
msb_Did you ever call them up and tell them it wouldn't let you download a Linux distro on bittorrent?Apr 07 06:44
DaemonFCOh, it does.Apr 07 06:44
DaemonFCThey don't seem to degrade bittorrent traffic anymore.Apr 07 06:45
msb_Oh, good!Apr 07 06:45
DaemonFCThey plan to start enforcing their caps at some point though.Apr 07 06:45
DaemonFCAt that point, there won't be much of a point in subscribing to their 25 or 50 Mbps tiers.Apr 07 06:45
msb_The magic word is YIFY!Apr 07 06:45
DaemonFCIt jsut means you'll reach your cap faster and start getting hammered with overage fees.Apr 07 06:45
DaemonFCTheir Comcast 100 tier will double your cap to 600 GB before you start paying more.Apr 07 06:46
DaemonFCEverything lower than that gets 300 or maybe 350, they haven't decided yet.Apr 07 06:46
DaemonFCThey seem to be experimenting in different markets.Apr 07 06:46
DaemonFCmsb_: Is you use less than 5 GB, they'll knock $5 a month off your internet bill. :PApr 07 06:47
msb_You can get movies and TV in x264 at half the size of xvids.Apr 07 06:47
DaemonFCIf you own your modem and keep getting those $19.99 a month promos, that means you could get cable internet for $14.99 a month.Apr 07 06:47
DaemonFCI'd never trade 300 GB for 5 GB to save $5.Apr 07 06:48
DaemonFCThat would just be stupid.Apr 07 06:48
DaemonFCyeah, VP9 and x265 (is that what they call it?) say they'll halve it again.Apr 07 06:48
DaemonFCFull HD movie rips could be as small as 400-500 MB.Apr 07 06:48
msb_720p is plenty for me.Apr 07 06:49
msb_I just watch on my computer screen.Apr 07 06:49
DaemonFCI got rid of flash and I use and ad blocking plugin to keep from downloading that crap.Apr 07 06:49
msb_Those are about 700MB.Apr 07 06:50
DaemonFCIf you do a lot of web browsing, then over the course of the month, ads and tacking scripts and all that crap could be as much as 2-3 GB.Apr 07 06:50
msb_Not enough to worry about.  And there's a lot of good stuff on Youtube, which can now be downloaded great with youtube-dl.Apr 07 06:51
DaemonFCLots of sites are starting to use paywalls. That doesn't affect me too often thanks to Google's cache and setting Firefox to not allow cookies on those sites and to dump all cookies at the end of a session.Apr 07 06:51
DaemonFC90% of those paywalls are just a cookie that records how many articles you've looked at and tells you to pay up eventually.Apr 07 06:51
msb_Very few alternative news sites insist on being paid.  Apr 07 06:53
msb_Anyhow, if you select x264 files, 480p or 720p, 10GB/day is more than enough.Apr 07 06:55
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msb_For me, at least.  There are only about 10 TV shows that I watch.Apr 07 06:56
msb_Suits, Good Wife, Elementary, Grey's Anatomy...Apr 07 06:58
msb_Although the last ep of GA had them all getting a severe flu and none of them even mentioned Vitamin C.  Apparently it's censored, like 9/11 truth.Apr 07 06:59
msb_I record the Cartoon Network Adult Swim anime's from actual cable TV with a TV card.  My old 'puter can convert NTSC to xvid in realtime -- barely.Apr 07 07:02
msb_I like the cat character in Space Dandy.Apr 07 07:06
DaemonFCBetween the deal I worked out with Comcast and getting rid of their modem, my bill will go down from $62.51 a month to $21.39 a month.Apr 07 07:17
DaemonFCThat's with taxes.Apr 07 07:17
DaemonFCI think I can be patient and deal with 3 Mbps...Apr 07 07:17
DaemonFCI've made do with less.Apr 07 07:17
DaemonFCUp until 2006, I was still using 768k DSL.Apr 07 07:17
DaemonFCmsb_: I don't know if this gateway is on sale or what.Apr 07 07:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Midori 0.5.8 Browser Pulls In New WebKit2 CodeApr 07 07:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Midori 0.5.8 Browser Pulls In New WebKit2 Code | Tux MachinesApr 07 07:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nouveau Becomes Friendly Towards Non-Root XApr 07 07:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     iPhone becomes victim of Android’s success,Apr 07 07:19
TweetTuxMachines                 makes Apple worry http://t.co/f3IDDDi9MRApr 07 07:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | iPhone becomes victim of Android’s success, makes Apple worry | Tux MachinesApr 07 07:19
DaemonFCAmazon has them for $99.99. Newegg has them for $119.99, and Best Buy has them for $149.99Apr 07 07:21
DaemonFCI get 3% back of whatever I spend on Amazon because I have their credit card.Apr 07 07:21
DaemonFChttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Technicolor-TC8305C-DOCSIS-3-0-Wireless-Gateway-Cable-Modem-GREAT-Condition/131160625963Apr 07 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebay.com | Technicolor TC8305C DOCSIS 3 0 Wireless Gateway Cable Modem Great Condition | eBay [ http://ur1.ca/h0n0v ]Apr 07 07:24
DaemonFCI'd be REAL careful about buying anything on ebay that says "XFINITY" (Comcast) on it.Apr 07 07:24
DaemonFCWhen you don't return their equipment, they bill you an outrageous amount for it, and then you technically own it.Apr 07 07:25
DaemonFCIt won't work on anyone else's cable network though.Apr 07 07:25
DaemonFCThey only used to charge $150, but it's like $500 now.Apr 07 07:26
msb_DaemonFC: You are an amazing bargain hunter!Apr 07 07:26
DaemonFCThey noticed that people were calling them up and canceling, paying the fee for not returning the modem, and then subscribing to Comcast again immediately.Apr 07 07:26
DaemonFC:)Apr 07 07:26
DaemonFCThen they owned the modem and never had to make another rental payment on it.Apr 07 07:27
DaemonFCmsb_: I was going to buy that Chromebook at Best Buy, and then it turned out that only Windows XP laptops could be traded in.Apr 07 07:27
DaemonFCI have several old desktops in the closet that run XP, so I planned to pick the crappiest one and turn it in for the store credit.Apr 07 07:28
DaemonFC:(Apr 07 07:28
msb_Can you run real Linux on a chromebook?Apr 07 07:28
DaemonFCYou sure can. :)Apr 07 07:28
DaemonFCThere are instructions on linux.com for installing Ubuntu to the SSD of an Acer C720 and wiping out Chrome OS.Apr 07 07:29
DaemonFCBut you probably don't want to do that.Apr 07 07:29
DaemonFCWhat you *could* do is use external storage.Apr 07 07:29
DaemonFCGet a 64 or 128 GB USB 3.0 flash drive and make a Fedora image on it with persistent storage.Apr 07 07:30
DaemonFCThen plug it into the Chromebook's USB 3.0 port.Apr 07 07:30
DaemonFCThen you could switch between Fedora and Chrome OS by rebooting.Apr 07 07:30
DaemonFCmsb_: You don't want to get the Samsung Chromebook with the arm processor in it if you want to run a regular GNU/Linux distribution.Apr 07 07:31
DaemonFCThere's an unofficial Fedora image for the Samsung Chromebook, but it hasn't been updated since Fedora 18 iirc.Apr 07 07:31
DaemonFC2 seconds agoApr 07 07:36
DaemonFCNo. Technically, Windows XP won't become "less secure" than it was before when it goes out of support. All of the security problems that will be discovered after April 8th were there before April 8th. Many of them will have been there since 2001, or even before that (since many Windows vulnerabilities go back well into the 1990s).Apr 07 07:36
DaemonFCTavis Ormandy found a problem with the NTVDM (NT Virtual DOS Machine) that dated back to the original Windows NT from 1993, which was still present in Windows 7. He privately informed Microsoft of it. Months passed, and they still hadn't fixed it, so he publicly reported it along with demonstration exploit code. Only then did Microsoft fix it. Then they said that HE was the one being irresponsible.Apr 07 07:36
DaemonFCI find it hysterical that people suddenly think that Windows XP is too dangerous to use. It was always too dangerous to use. 13 years and 5,000+ security patches later, and it's STILL dangerous.Apr 07 07:36
DaemonFCWhat does that say about how bad the original XP was?Apr 07 07:36
msb_It probably has fluoride in it to rot your brain.Apr 07 07:39
msb_Virtual software fluoride.Apr 07 07:39
msb_DaemonFC: Actually it does.  Fluoridated water destroys the pineal gland, which otherwise produces dimethyltryptamine, a psychedelic.  Thanks to the US govt, everyone in this country has their pineal gland destroyed, so they live in a reality that's much less fun.Apr 07 07:46
msb_DaemonFC: Likewise, every version of MS Windows lacks the software freedom and the 20 desktops you can get with Linux, so the MS computer experience is also very limited, and people don't know any better.Apr 07 07:47
msb_DaemonFC: MS and fluoride are both techniques of mind-control, which enable the richest 1% to grab 99% of the wealth, without the other 99% of the population trying to do anything about it.Apr 07 07:50
msb_Good movie --  Contagion 2011 - brain examination: The sulci are obliterated.  Let's look at the base. Oh my god. You want me to take a sample? I want you to move away from the table. Should I call someone? Call everyone.  Apr 07 08:15
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MinceR022816 < DaemonFC> MinceR: Alternet is bugging me.Apr 07 08:37
MinceRdisabling javascript might helpApr 07 08:37
MinceRgeekingsApr 07 09:27
DaemonFCDoes 4 GB of RAM really help out Chrome OS much?Apr 07 09:33
DaemonFCI noticed that a few Chromebooks have 4 GB instead of 2.Apr 07 09:33
MinceRi suspect it does, as the web is incredibly bloatedApr 07 09:34
MinceRand will keep getting more soApr 07 09:34
MinceRi'm thinking of switching to a really lightweight browser, adding a few features (such as warning me somehow about animated gifs if the browser doesn't support them)Apr 07 09:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/hHVqhAPcvqApr 07 09:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Google Chrome 35 Lands with Small Fixes forApr 07 09:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux, Windows, and Mac OS XApr 07 09:56
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DaemonFCMinceR: I just really don't like this desktop system very much.Apr 07 09:59
DaemonFCIt takes up a ton of space, it's loud, it's unsightly, there's wires everywhere.Apr 07 09:59
DaemonFCI'm really thinking about shoving it onto Craigslist and replacing it with an Acer C720 Chromebook.Apr 07 10:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/5R4TcVkJgSApr 07 10:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesApr 07 10:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/dzr8Jbj0qdApr 07 10:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     F2FS File-System Gains Large Directory Support,Apr 07 10:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesApr 07 10:11
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schestowitz__> Champagne corks probably were flying in Redmond.  Elsewhere too, becauseApr 07 12:34
schestowitz__> now in America people can get fired for how they vote.  Land of the freeApr 07 12:34
schestowitz__> and all that.  The fallout from this, if it grows, could be as bad asApr 07 12:34
schestowitz__> when Bush was appointed in the coup in 2000.Apr 07 12:34
schestowitz__In today's article about MS control of the media I showed a potential role of MS mole.Apr 07 12:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/marcusthetechie/status/453133598120361985Apr 07 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marcusthetechie: @schestowitz nods well they could always upgrade to the next version #vistaApr 07 12:39
cubezzzwell some folks say that 4.3BSD was actually the most important OS ever writtenApr 07 12:43
MinceRwhy?Apr 07 12:44
cubezzzit was the biggest undergirder of the internetApr 07 12:44
cubezzzeveryone used the bsd tcp/ip stackApr 07 12:45
cubezzzit was open source before Linux and before MinixApr 07 12:46
MinceRicApr 07 12:46
cubezzzDARPA looked at BBN's implementation of TCP/IP and BSD's implemenation and decided that the BSD version was superioerApr 07 12:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/hHVqhAPcvqApr 07 12:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Android good enough to be a laptop OS?Apr 07 12:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesApr 07 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Android good enough to be a laptop OS? | Tux MachinesApr 07 12:54
DaemonFCschestowitz__: That's why you don't talk about who you voted for at work.Apr 07 13:00
cubezzzunix v7 is also very important and worthy of study:Apr 07 13:00
cubezzzv7 introduced stdio, bourne shell, awk, lex, yacc, lint, sed, m4 and makeApr 07 13:01
cubezzznot to mention pcc :)Apr 07 13:01
MinceRschestowitz__: what is that referring to?Apr 07 13:01
Sosumikind of shamefulApr 07 13:59
Sosumithat new linksys router that was announced earlier this yearApr 07 14:00
Sosumithat one that they said they'd release the firmware sdkApr 07 14:00
Sosumiis nowhere to be foundApr 07 14:01
cubezzzMinceR, can you access techrights.org?Apr 07 14:01
Sosumiwell, neither the router nor the sdk :(Apr 07 14:01
cubezzzah, there it goesApr 07 14:02
Sosumiand I assume they'd at least put the sdk out in advance and specs before launching the actual pieceApr 07 14:03
Sosumibut no; so dumb...Apr 07 14:03
cubezzzI thought the WRT54GL was the router of choice for open source folksApr 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Windows XP Dies Tomorrow, Ubuntu 14.04 LTSApr 07 14:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows XP Dies Tomorrow, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Launches Next Week | Tux MachinesApr 07 14:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft XP users can turn to Linux asApr 07 14:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft XP users can turn to Linux as alternative | Tux MachinesApr 07 14:06
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cubezzzoh well, if the XP users all dump their PCs and buy new ones (which is obviously what Microsoft want) that's all the more cheap hardware for usApr 07 14:15
abeNd-orgyea, i have outfitted the rural libraries around here with discarded optiplex755, might be out of warranty, but they were free donations, core2duo, take up to 8gb ram & dirt cheap licensing through techsoup.org (there is still no really usable patron management system for linux workstations)Apr 07 14:19
cubezzzI'm still running Optiplex GX110 :)Apr 07 14:20
Sosumithe new one is the wrt1900acApr 07 14:20
abeNd-orggx110? woof, the beige rounded case?Apr 07 14:20
cubezzzit's a slimline :)Apr 07 14:20
abeNd-orgim at the point though where i am a hardware snob even for donations, if it isnt core2duo & capable of 8gb ram, i dont want to have to bother with it. Apr 07 14:21
cubezzzif someone donated you a microvax you'd turn it down? :)Apr 07 14:22
abeNd-orglets just say most of the stuff individuals try to donate are broken bubble jet printers & stuff that would make the gx110 look new, a microvax isnt going to come down the lineApr 07 14:23
cubezzzah wellApr 07 14:24
abeNd-orgnow customers of mine getting rid of old hardware however are more than happy to donate to the rural libraries around ereApr 07 14:24
abeNd-org^hereApr 07 14:24
cubezzzI wouldn't turn down a working 486Apr 07 14:25
cubezzzI should really fix that old IBM Apr 07 14:25
cubezzzit's not high on the priority list though :)Apr 07 14:25
abeNd-orgyea, but im also concerned about standardized parts across the "fleet" that i support probonoApr 07 14:26
abeNd-orgif everything is a 755, which is pretty much is right now, then that makes my life easierApr 07 14:26
abeNd-orgonly thing i wish i could get is someone to donate a boatload of 64gb SSD :P extend the life of those 755 even furtherApr 07 14:26
cubezzzI like the slot 1 era, I got a bunch of thoseApr 07 14:26
MinceRcubezzz: i canApr 07 14:29
abeNd-orgif i get old stuff ill ship it to you, if you pay for shipping :PApr 07 14:29
cubezzzabeNd-org, where are you?Apr 07 14:29
abeNd-orgDFWApr 07 14:29
cubezzzTexas?Apr 07 14:30
abeNd-orgyesApr 07 14:30
abeNd-orgyou?Apr 07 14:31
cubezzzI'm close to Toronto :)Apr 07 14:31
abeNd-orghah that will be 'spensive shippingApr 07 14:32
cubezzzlet me know if you get a c64 though :)Apr 07 14:32
cubezzzactually you could make a few $$$ on ebay with thoseApr 07 14:34
abeNd-orgyea, ive got a few of those 755 with only 1gb ram, i need to sell some stuff to make up the $ to outfit them with 8gb ramApr 07 14:34
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Sosumihttps://twitter.com/DrMarcusP/status/453131208579633152Apr 07 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrMarcusP: An example of what I mean about Western ignorance of Ukraine: Look where the BBC have placed #Donetsk and #Lugansk: http://t.co/NI5ZfELcCkApr 07 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrMarcusP: An example of what I mean about Western ignorance of Ukraine: Look where the BBC have placed #Donetsk and #Lugansk: http://t.co/NI5ZfELcCkApr 07 15:02
SosumilulzApr 07 15:02
msb_Smartphones and tablets are destroying civilization.  The formerly excellent zap2it.com TV schedule listing has now been trashed and de-featured so it will fit into a postage stamp sized screen.  God effing damn them!Apr 07 15:07
Sosumihow is 5 inches post stamp sizeApr 07 15:08
Sosumimsb_ logicApr 07 15:08
*Sosumi shrugsApr 07 15:08
msb_Hyperbole.  It's still much too small to display a useful amount of information.Apr 07 15:09
Sosumiin between the pros and cons of portability, 5 inches is fineApr 07 15:10
Sosumijust swipe downApr 07 15:10
msb_Any time anyone mentions "improving the user experience" it meanw they are going to s--t all over you.Apr 07 15:10
msb_To hell with that.  I want to see 6 hours of tv listings, not 3.  I want to see 5 days x 24 hours of listings for any particular channel.  I want to see the GD year of release of movies!!!  They've trashed all that.Apr 07 15:12
MinceRmy phone has a 1280x720 5.5" displayApr 07 15:13
msb_I don't want to have to look through a effing keyhole at what was formerly a large 2-D listing, just because some people have tiny screens.Apr 07 15:13
MinceRit fits more information than some laptops.Apr 07 15:13
msb_Good for you.  I hope it came with a microscope.Apr 07 15:13
MinceRit didn't, but my eyes work.Apr 07 15:13
MinceRmy tablet has a 1920x1200 7" display, that's a higher resolution than most monitorsApr 07 15:14
SosumiI have a bottle of water that says "Pedras Salgadas"Apr 07 15:14
Sosuminow try to be that upApr 07 15:15
Sosumi*beatApr 07 15:15
abeNd-orgthey dont have a dropdown to select how much to show?Apr 07 15:15
msb_I have a 1920x1080 27" screen.Apr 07 15:15
msb_No.Apr 07 15:15
MinceRdon't blame smartphones and tablets for people sucking at web design and web programming :>Apr 07 15:15
msb_It used to be part of user preferences, which now mostly don't exist.Apr 07 15:15
MinceRcrApple is making lack of configurability chic.Apr 07 15:16
msb_I blame corps for catering to the lowest most stupid audience.Apr 07 15:16
msb_The KDE4 devs did that too.Apr 07 15:16
MinceRgnome devs did that tooApr 07 15:17
DaemonFCUnless I can get an insanely good deal on a refurbished Chromebook, I might just wait for the Samsung Chromebook 2.Apr 07 15:18
DaemonFChttp://gigaom.com/2014/03/30/samsung-chromebook-2-set-to-square-off-against-intel-powered-chrome-os-devices/Apr 07 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gigaom.com | Samsung Chromebook 2 set to square off against Intel-powered Chrome OS devices — Tech News and Analysis [ http://ur1.ca/h0q4u ]Apr 07 15:19
DaemonFCThese look pretty good.Apr 07 15:19
msb_I would not trust any system that Google controls.Apr 07 15:19
MinceRchromebooks can be taken out of google control, afaikApr 07 15:19
MinceRnot sure how well supplied they are with gpu drivers for x, thoughApr 07 15:19
msb_Google used to have all Usenet text posts as far back as 1980, searchable.  Then they threw it away.Apr 07 15:20
msb_There's no way to talk to them anymore, either.  Google is now just another corporate pig.Apr 07 15:21
MinceRindeed.Apr 07 15:21
MinceRat least their tech tends to suck somewhat lessApr 07 15:21
MinceRand tends to be a little more openApr 07 15:21
msb_BTW, when did laptops become "notebooks"?Apr 07 15:21
msb_If I got one, it would have a 17" screen and a huge hard drive.Apr 07 15:22
MinceRwhen marketers decided it was not a good idea to suggest that people use them in their lap, i guessApr 07 15:22
MinceRmy first two laptops were huge, heavy, with 17" screensApr 07 15:22
MinceRi'm still using my ThinkPad W700 at home.Apr 07 15:23
Sosumiby that definition then, a macbook air should only be used in the "air"Apr 07 15:23
Sosumihopefully, it'll float tooApr 07 15:23
msb_Well, you have to sit it down somewhere in order to type on it, so the only problem with being heavy is carrying it.Apr 07 15:23
msb_Of course floating *would* be nice!Apr 07 15:24
SosumiI bet there's an app for thatApr 07 15:24
Sosumi:)Apr 07 15:24
msb_When did programs become "apps" ?Apr 07 15:25
Sosumiwhen crapple started calling them thatApr 07 15:25
msb_Probably they don't want to remind people about how programmable *people* are!Apr 07 15:26
msb_The poisoned Apple.Apr 07 15:26
Sosumino, they just want ppl to think that their products are single purposed machinesApr 07 15:26
Sosumiaka, can't even properly multitaskApr 07 15:26
MinceR162313 < Sosumi> by that definition then, a macbook air should only be used in the "air"Apr 07 15:27
MinceRno, but it's full of hot airApr 07 15:27
Sosumihow so? facebook can't make a crapbook overheatApr 07 15:27
MinceRcrApple hypeApr 07 15:28
msb_F---book -- there's another load of garbage contaminating the world.Apr 07 15:28
MinceRalso, others probably called applications "apps" well before crApple didApr 07 15:29
msb_Whoever renamed directories as "folders" should be strangled.Apr 07 15:29
msb_I'm in a bad mood today.  Now it will be twice as much work to find out what's on TV.Apr 07 15:30
msb_You can't see what was on last night either.Apr 07 15:31
msb_I guess to the average moron yesterday never existed.Apr 07 15:31
MinceRhttp://www.catb.org/jargon/html/A/app.htmlApr 07 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catb.org | app [ http://ur1.ca/h0q70 ]Apr 07 15:32
msb_Apparently google tried to emulate f--kbook when they designed google+.  It's people-oriented, not subject oriented.  It's for people who don't/can't think.Apr 07 15:34
msb_The Marching Morons.  Apr 07 15:35
msb_Soon we'll see ads for rocket trips to lovely new free homes on Venus.Apr 07 15:35
MinceR:)Apr 07 15:35
msb_PopProbTermApr 07 15:35
MinceRi liked that novelApr 07 15:35
msb_Yeah.Apr 07 15:36
msb_If it weren't for GNU/Linux/FOSS, we'd all be lobotomized now.Apr 07 15:37
MinceRhttp://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=appApr 07 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.etymonline.com | Online Etymology Dictionary [ http://ur1.ca/h0q82 ]Apr 07 15:37
msb_And the Web too, of course.Apr 07 15:37
MinceRhm, not as old as i thought it wasApr 07 15:37
msb_I wouldn't mind people using the term if they knew what a program is.Apr 07 15:38
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cubezzzmsb_, why not just use tvguide.com ?Apr 07 15:41
msb_Thanks, I'll check it out.Apr 07 15:41
cubezzzit's got NAN errors, but basically it works :)Apr 07 15:41
DaemonFCEven the low end hardware has gotten pretty good these days.Apr 07 15:43
msb_cubezzz: tvguide.com also show only 3 hours of listings, and it does not display the season#/episode# of series shows.  But it does show the release year of movies.Apr 07 15:52
cubezzzmsb_, you can specify the time thoughApr 07 15:53
msb_And you can see the previous day, which you can no longer do with zap2it.Apr 07 15:54
cubezzzthere's probably some other way to tap into the infoApr 07 15:55
msb_But the lack of season#/episode# is serious.Apr 07 15:56
msb_If there is, I'd love to know it.Apr 07 15:56
cubezzzhttp://tvlistings.aol.comApr 07 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvlistings.aol.com | TV Listings, Program Schedule, Channels, TV Guide - HuffPost TVApr 07 15:56
cubezzzcurious george, season 5 episode 3 :)Apr 07 15:58
cubezzzToo Close for Comfort, season 1 episode 1Apr 07 15:59
cubezzzseems to have want you wantApr 07 15:59
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msb_I'm on http://tvlistings.aol.com/listings/..., and even signed up for an aol account, god help me, but am still not seeing season#/ep#.Apr 07 16:18
msb_cubezzz: what did you do to see that?Apr 07 16:18
Sosumiaol = america off lineApr 07 16:20
Sosumiand now more ukranian cities are demanding a referendum to join russiaApr 07 16:42
Sosumiafter a couple of pro-russia militia men stormed some government buildingsApr 07 16:42
Sosumiearlier this morningApr 07 16:43
Sosumithey're also demanding peace-keepers, of which russia says that it'll send only if the UN approvesApr 07 16:43
Sosumiso in other words,Apr 07 16:44
Sosumithe fascist coup master minded by the EU and the anglo-americans came back to hit them in the faceApr 07 16:44
Sosumilike a truckApr 07 16:44
Sosumiand MinceR's favorite hungarianApr 07 16:45
SosumiOrban, is still president of HungaryApr 07 16:45
Sosumiand since inflation is lowering in the whole EUApr 07 16:46
Sosumithe ECB is going to take active measures to make sure prices go up, up, upApr 07 16:46
Sosumii think that sums it up for the dayApr 07 16:47
Sosumiand amd launched a new fire pro cardApr 07 16:49
Sosumithe w9100Apr 07 16:49
Sosumihardly beats the quadro k6000 on most stuffApr 07 16:50
Sosumibut couldn't find any gnu/linux benchmarksApr 07 16:51
Sosuminor I have any idea how's the driver certification progress going on for amd on linuxApr 07 16:52
MinceRactually, he's prime ministerApr 07 16:54
MinceRjanos ader is the presidentApr 07 16:55
MinceRhungary is a system with a weak presidentApr 07 16:55
MinceRorban might want to change that though, like putin didApr 07 16:55
MinceRjanos ader is a rubber-stamp robotApr 07 16:55
Sosumi:)Apr 07 17:07
Sosumihttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1NzgApr 07 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Qualcomm Announces 64-bit Snapdragon Processors [ http://ur1.ca/h0qxd ]Apr 07 17:13
SosumiDonetsk just declared independence from ukraineApr 07 17:46
msb_Not many people like Nazis for some reason.Apr 07 17:48
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MinceRif not many people like nazis, then why do EPP member parties keep winning elections?Apr 07 18:55
MinceRand why do people like dictatorships and dictators so much?Apr 07 18:55
Sosumiand why do ppl keep voting in IMF/EU austerity bannerman Apr 07 18:57
Sosumiand sometimes not even voting,Apr 07 18:58
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sebsebsebhiApr 07 18:58
Sosumithey just get appointed prime ministersApr 07 18:58
Sosumilike in *cough* italyApr 07 18:58
Sosumiseb³Apr 07 18:58
Sosumihttps://twitter.com/mike_giglio/status/453229256588685312Apr 07 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mike_giglio: Yes I have interviewed my cab driver on the way from the Donetsk airport and he would greet Russian troops "with flowers."Apr 07 19:05
Sosumiand a kiss?Apr 07 19:05
MinceRand two blowjobs (one of them for putin)Apr 07 19:08
Sosumithat escalated quicklyApr 07 19:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE: Monday Report #10 http://t.co/f5BLdfYZANApr 07 19:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Monday Report #10 | Tux MachinesApr 07 19:18
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Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/04/07/phil-schiller-unhappy-with-2013-advertising/Apr 07 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Emails Show Phil Schiller's Displeasure with Ad Agency's Efforts for Apple in Early 2013 - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/h0w4c ]Apr 07 20:52
DaemonFCNothing wrong with that, unless you experience a burning sensation about a week later.Apr 07 20:53
Sosumiphil schiller: "something drastic has to change. fast"Apr 07 20:53
SosumilawlApr 07 20:53
Sosumicrapple selling premium sex toys now? a repurpose of the new mac proApr 07 20:55
Sosumithey are just desperateApr 07 21:00
Sosumiwith no directionApr 07 21:01
Sosumito the point they failed with shipments of the trashcanApr 07 21:01
Sosumiand prior to thatApr 07 21:01
Sosumiwith their redisigned imacApr 07 21:02
Sosumiios6 and 7 haven't seen much of a changeApr 07 21:02
MinceRwell, hypeOS 7 got the LSD themeApr 07 21:03
MinceReven uglier than it was :>Apr 07 21:03
Sosumiother than moving from "stitched leather" to lsd themeApr 07 21:03
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Sosumithe stitched leather interface was actually what got scot "douchbag" forstal firedApr 07 21:04
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Sosumihttp://www.mondaynote.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/iCal-Ugliness.png?d81f8fApr 07 21:06
Sosumihttp://webedible.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/find-my-friends.jpgApr 07 21:06
MinceRcrApple never had "minimalist elegance"Apr 07 21:07
Sosumieven more horrible and unpleasant than ribbonApr 07 21:07
MinceRmaybe before OSuX, but even that's doubtfulApr 07 21:08
Sosumino idea before osxApr 07 21:08
Sosumibut, minimalistic elegance for crapple means removing choiceApr 07 21:09
Sosumior hiding it awayApr 07 21:09
Sosumiand impose onto the user a standard defined by themApr 07 21:09
MinceRoh, that makes senseApr 07 21:09
MinceRin a wayApr 07 21:09
Sosumiwhich most of the times turn out to be worse than the previous "standard"Apr 07 21:10
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Sosumihence the stitched leatherApr 07 21:10
Sosumiand the lsd themeApr 07 21:10
Sosumiwhen they could have just stayed on the brushed metal or the glossy plastic lookApr 07 21:11
MinceRstitched leather worked better on the back of samsung devices :>Apr 07 21:11
SosumiI don't like stitched leatherApr 07 21:11
MinceRwell, even in the OSuX i tried on a VM, they couldn't decide between brushed metal and water drops on ruled paperApr 07 21:11
MinceRfinder used bothApr 07 21:11
MinceRand yet the fanbois were gushing about how consistent it was :>Apr 07 21:11
Sosumifinder is not consistentApr 07 21:12
Sosumiit got better recently wit the adding of tabbed navigationApr 07 21:13
MinceRbreadcrumbs?Apr 07 21:13
SosumilolApr 07 21:14
Sosumibut is still a messApr 07 21:14
Sosumiforgets favorites if they're placed on an external driveApr 07 21:14
Sosumiand so onApr 07 21:15
Sosumiif i remember more crap to complain about finder, I'll say itApr 07 21:15
MinceR:>Apr 07 21:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 0.8.9 Gets Its Third Update Pack withApr 07 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Newer Linux Kernels http://t.co/XYENYY0nXzApr 07 21:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h0zd6Apr 07 21:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Angie Byron on Drupal 8 out of the boxApr 07 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GqEJgxMBKuApr 07 21:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nouveau Picks Up Slightly Better OpenGL 4.0Apr 07 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Support http://t.co/8A4O3nnNOZApr 07 21:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 0.8.9 Gets Its Third Update Pack with Newer Linux Kernels | Tux MachinesApr 07 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Angie Byron on Drupal 8 out of the box | Tux MachinesApr 07 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nouveau Picks Up Slightly Better OpenGL 4.0 Support | Tux MachinesApr 07 21:24
msb_Regarding the necessity of GUI consistency:  “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds,..." -- Emerson -- http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/353571-a-foolish-consistency-is-the-hobgoblin-of-little-minds-adoredApr 07 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of littl...” [ http://ur1.ca/h0zke ]Apr 07 21:50
msb_https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/06/pers-m06.htmlApr 07 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | The fascist danger in Ukraine - World Socialist Web Site [ http://ur1.ca/h0zlm ]Apr 07 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     20-Way Intel/AMD/NVIDIA GPU Comparison WithApr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS http://t.co/Z3W5wBiNGvApr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h10ulApr 07 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 20-Way Intel/AMD/NVIDIA GPU Comparison With Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Tux MachinesApr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why so much fuss over Windows XP’s expiry?Apr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dIDGiIZvbGApr 07 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why so much fuss over Windows XP’s expiry? | Tux MachinesApr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h10uqApr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The end of Windows XP: Is it time to give LinuxApr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 a try? http://t.co/n9hb252Mw1Apr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h10uwApr 07 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The end of Windows XP: Is it time to give Linux a try? | Tux MachinesApr 07 22:23
DaemonFChmmmApr 07 22:31
DaemonFCIt seems that Google Chromebooks have this stupid thing called Google Cloud Print.Apr 07 22:31
DaemonFCBasically it means that anything you print gets sent to Google and then re-routed to your printer, which means you need to buy a new printer.Apr 07 22:32
msb_Why?Apr 07 22:40
msb_DaemonFC: Does the cloud get the printer all wet?Apr 07 22:40
MinceRkinkyApr 07 22:41
msb_8^)Apr 07 22:42
DaemonFCThey say it's so they don't have to ship support for a bunch of printers.Apr 07 22:47
MinceRbut actually it's so that the nsa can have a good look at everything you printApr 07 22:47
MinceRalso, there are printers where you can submit a job on a web interface, so it isn't really needed.Apr 07 22:48
DaemonFCRight. There's no GOOD reason why they can't just connect to the printer some other way.Apr 07 23:03
DaemonFCIt's spyware.Apr 07 23:03
DaemonFCMinceR: They have a list of ways you can use it.Apr 07 23:05
DaemonFCYou can use a regular printer by connecting it to a Windows PC or a Mac and installing some special software from Google.Apr 07 23:05
DaemonFCYou can buy a new printer that Google can send print jobs to.Apr 07 23:06
DaemonFCOr you can submit it as a print job for FedEx and get a code to enter that prints the pages out when you get there.Apr 07 23:06
MinceRgnApr 07 23:20
DaemonFChttp://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/printers.html#Apr 07 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | Google - Cloud Print [ http://ur1.ca/h12hd ]Apr 07 23:28
DaemonFCThat sees like a big pain in the ass just to print an occasional page.Apr 07 23:28
DaemonFCseemsApr 07 23:29
DaemonFCPrinters are just evil in general.Apr 07 23:31
DaemonFCHP and others even go so far as to code their printer cartridges with an expiration date.Apr 07 23:32
DaemonFCStarting the day you put the cartridge in the printer, it starts a countdown, so that the damned thing will eventually refuse to print, even if you have ink left.Apr 07 23:32
DaemonFCI hate printers so much that I just go to the library and use one of their computers when I need a copy of something.Apr 07 23:34
DaemonFCIt's much cheaper to pay them 20 cents a page than it is to buy a printer and play the ink cartridge gamesApr 07 23:34
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DaemonFCI'm digging through the refurb laptops on the Acer outlet storefront.Apr 08 00:03
DaemonFCThat $150 C720 is so tempting.Apr 08 00:03
DaemonFCWhere else do you get a laptop that does anything for $150? :)Apr 08 00:03
DaemonFCGoogle says that once a Chromebook has had the first user sign in, that no further users are eligible for any of the "goodies" though.Apr 08 00:04
DaemonFCincluding two years of free 100 GB Google DriveApr 08 00:04
DaemonFCSo, that wipes out at least $50 in value right off the bat.Apr 08 00:04
DaemonFCA 15 GB Google Drive is free though. I already have one because I use Android.Apr 08 00:05
DaemonFCIf you don't do much with it except uploading photos and stuff, 15 GB should be sufficient.Apr 08 00:07
DaemonFCPlus, you can always use a thumb drive.Apr 08 00:08
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DaemonFChttp://imgur.com/MKybStQApr 08 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | imgur: the simple image sharerApr 08 01:44
DaemonFCLOLApr 08 01:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD, Mentor Graphics Partner on Embedded LinuxApr 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Development http://t.co/9rMEpuB5NzApr 08 04:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD, Mentor Graphics Partner on Embedded Linux Development | Tux MachinesApr 08 04:07
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DaemonFCMinceR: What do you think. Apr 08 04:24
DaemonFCIs losing the 2 years of free Google Drive worth the $50 I'd save on a refurb Chromebook?Apr 08 04:24
DaemonFC:)Apr 08 04:24
DaemonFCI decided to change my Amazon Smile charity to the Electronic Frontier Foundation.Apr 08 04:54
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msb_cubezzz: By turning off popup blocking and AdBlockPlus I was able to see Season/Episode numbers in the aol tv schedule.  But it runs audiovisual flash ads when I click on a show to see that, which could crash my computer.  Also it shows only 2.5hours of schedule, and the time selector doesn't work -- ask for 10PM and I get 10AM.  Also no movie year, nor original series ep broadcast date.  No better than zap2it, which now has season/ep Apr 08 05:33
msb_numbers again.Apr 08 05:33
msb_Basically, it's the shits.Apr 08 05:34
msb_I will NOT have a website blasting me with ads!  Ads are victimization by corporate psychopaths.Apr 08 05:36
msb_(Unless they're small, silent, easy to ignore, and don't F up my software.)Apr 08 05:36
Agnesitoner doesn't have an expiration dateApr 08 06:30
Agnesinor it driesApr 08 06:30
Agnesiso, laser printers ftwApr 08 06:31
Agnesinot to mention that text looks much better on laser than on inkApr 08 06:31
cubezzzeh? how could it crash your computer?Apr 08 07:10
cubezzzwell, I'll see what else I can findApr 08 07:11
MinceRi suppose by triggering video driver bugsApr 08 07:22
MinceRthat said, i've never seen it happenApr 08 07:22
MinceRthe most was taking the browser down with it and even that was ages agoApr 08 07:22
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cubezzztry this one:Apr 08 07:38
cubezzzhttps://www.tivo.com/tivo-tco/tvlistings.doApr 08 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tivo.com | TV Listings Guide - TiVo [ http://ur1.ca/h1645 ]Apr 08 07:38
cubezzzdebian has something called "Freeguide"Apr 08 07:41
cubezzzalso tv-browserApr 08 07:47
cubezzzalso set up a free trail on http://www.schedulesdirect.orgApr 08 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.schedulesdirect.org | Schedules DirectApr 08 07:51
cubezzzonce I figure out the true source of the tv info I'll hack up a text based program Apr 08 08:02
msb_cubezzz: Hi!  I was asleep for a while there.Apr 08 08:06
msb_I've had some crashes the seem to relate to high usage of cpu by firefox.  Apr 08 08:07
cubezzzthere's even one for KDEApr 08 08:07
cubezzzI'm compiling it now to check it outApr 08 08:07
msb_Might also have been due to cpu overheating before I cleaned its heatsink fins.Apr 08 08:07
cubezzzbah, the kde project seems abandonedApr 08 08:09
msb_Have to go do something now, back in 15 min. or so.  Thanks for your help!  I'll try the sites you've suggested when I get back.Apr 08 08:09
msb_Where did it get its data from?Apr 08 08:10
cubezzzyeah it seems it's called a "grabber"Apr 08 08:14
cubezzzthis looks more promising:Apr 08 08:17
cubezzzhttp://mc2xml.hosterbox.net/Apr 08 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mc2xml.hosterbox.net | mc2xmlApr 08 08:17
cubezzzmsb_, mc2xml looks like it's the best of the bunchApr 08 08:20
amarsh04new kernel timeApr 08 08:21
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cubezzzit seems it actually downloads from zap2it :)Apr 08 08:21
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msb_segment fault -- core dumpedApr 08 08:38
msb_OK, back now.Apr 08 08:38
msb_cubezzz: Well if it DLs from zap2it, it ain't gonna work anymore.Apr 08 08:38
cubezzzI just used itApr 08 08:38
msb_Ruby has a great web-page scraping library, and some years ago I used it to get data from some TV site.Apr 08 08:39
cubezzzthere's a dozen busted-ass projects I'm wading throughApr 08 08:39
msb_Did mc2xml give a useful xml file?Apr 08 08:41
cubezzzit didApr 08 08:42
cubezzzha!Apr 08 08:44
cubezzzhahahaApr 08 08:44
cubezzzawesome, so maxemum actually does work, in tandem with mc2xmlApr 08 08:45
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/maxemum-tv-guide.pngApr 08 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/maxemum-tv-guide.png )Apr 08 08:46
cubezzzit's there nowApr 08 08:47
cubezzznote the categories, that's handyApr 08 08:49
cubezzzand best of all msb_, KDE 3.5.10 compatible :)Apr 08 08:49
msb_Yowza!Apr 08 08:49
cubezzzso to set it up I did: ./mc2xml -g l1j6t2 -c caApr 08 08:50
cubezzzso you would just put in your zip code and us I reckonApr 08 08:50
cubezzzthen set up maxemum to point to your xmltv.xml fileApr 08 08:51
msb_Where do I get maxemum?Apr 08 08:52
cubezzzit's small so I'll host itApr 08 08:53
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/maxemumtvguide-7.3.2.tar.gzApr 08 08:53
cubezzzlooks like mc2xml grabs 3 weeks of dataApr 08 08:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LTO Support Coming To Linux 3.15, Making For AApr 08 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Faster Kernel http://t.co/RnHzgoJUjcApr 08 08:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LTO Support Coming To Linux 3.15, Making For A Faster Kernel | Tux MachinesApr 08 08:55
cubezzzI'm using a buffalo zip so I get the us channels tooApr 08 09:06
msb_cubezzz: maxemum won't compile: fatal error: dcopclient.h: No such file or directory -- suse repo doesn't seem to have an rpm with itApr 08 09:08
cubezzzare you sure you don't have that file somewhere?Apr 08 09:09
msb_actually I do!  /opt/kde3/include/dcopclient.hApr 08 09:10
msb_how do I tell make where to find it?Apr 08 09:10
cubezzzthe usual place is /usr/includeApr 08 09:11
cubezzzah, the categories toggleApr 08 09:12
msb_Hah?Apr 08 09:14
msb_cubezzz: where is that toggle?Apr 08 09:16
cubezzzit's in channels and categoriesApr 08 09:17
cubezzzyou un-hilight everything, you see everythingApr 08 09:17
cubezzzotherwise you only see what you have hilightedApr 08 09:17
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msb_How do I tell make to look in /opt/kde3/include for .h files?Apr 08 09:19
cubezzzeasier to just copy the file into /usr/include Apr 08 09:20
msb_ok, I'm on my 3rd .h file!Apr 08 09:20
MinceRhttp://heartbleed.com/Apr 08 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-heartbleed.com | Heartbleed BugApr 08 09:22
cubezzzwhadda know, dragnet is still onApr 08 09:22
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/maxemum-tv-guide2.pngApr 08 09:23
MinceRgeekingsApr 08 09:26
msb_cubezzz: OK, after copying 5 .h files, I'm now getting a big C++ error.  Can I PM that to you?Apr 08 09:28
cubezzzsureApr 08 09:29
msb_there it is.  Maybe you could just send me your executable?Apr 08 09:30
msb_I'll put on goggles and a protective suit before I run it.Apr 08 09:31
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/maxemumtvguideApr 08 09:34
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Agnesihttp://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-reviewApr 08 11:06
Agnesi"Samsung Galaxy S5 review"Apr 08 11:07
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Agnesilabel me unimpressedApr 08 11:07
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schestowitz_bed2[23:34] <DaemonFC> I hate printers so much that I just go to the library and use one of their computers when I need a copy of something.Apr 08 11:36
schestowitz_bed2[23:34] <DaemonFC> It's much cheaper to pay them 20 cents a page than it is to buy a printer and play the ink cartridge gamesApr 08 11:36
schestowitz_bed2I'm the saemApr 08 11:36
schestowitz_bed2in a photo development shopApr 08 11:37
schestowitz_bed2they also make better printsApr 08 11:37
schestowitz_bed2the idea of printing from home is the anti-sharing mentalityApr 08 11:37
schestowitz_bed2where rather than a family sharing a landline each carries a tracking deviceApr 08 11:37
schestowitz_bed2and people buy several of each thing instead of sharingApr 08 11:37
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DaemonFCschestowitz_bed2: They have family plans. A smartphone is a computer. You don't really want to share it with people.Apr 08 11:47
DaemonFCI do like that Android Beam.Apr 08 11:47
DaemonFCWhere you can beam files to other Android phones.Apr 08 11:48
DaemonFCschestowitz_bed2: I'll bet that Google made some kind of deal with HP.Apr 08 11:52
DaemonFCThey make Chromebooks and then Google sabotages the OS to where it can't run a printer connected over USB.Apr 08 11:53
DaemonFCsuddenly you need a "google cloud print" printer that sends all your documents to the NSAApr 08 11:54
DaemonFCschestowitz_bed2: I did end up snagging that $149.99 refurbished C720. Apr 08 11:54
DaemonFCI was hoping to get one for $99 at Best Buy in exchange for one of my XP boat anchors that's been in the bedroom closet for years.Apr 08 11:55
DaemonFCBut the real deal ended up being honored only if you trade in a laptop.Apr 08 11:55
schestowitz_bed2[13:00] <DaemonFC> schestowitz__: That's why you don't talk about who you voted for at work.Apr 08 11:56
schestowitz_bed2[13:01] <MinceR> schestowitz__: what is that referring to?Apr 08 11:57
schestowitz_bed2Eich incidentApr 08 11:57
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schestowitz__[11:54] <DaemonFC> suddenly you need a "google cloud print" printer that sends all your documents to the NSAApr 08 11:57
schestowitz__!google eff printer suerveillanceApr 08 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Printer Dots | Electronic Frontier Foundation | https://www.eff.org/foia/foia-printer-dotsApr 08 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - deeplinks/printers - | Electronic Frontier Foundation | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/printersApr 08 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Printers | Electronic Frontier Foundation | https://www.eff.org/issues/printersApr 08 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The SSD Project - EFF Surveillance Self-Defense Project | https://ssd.eff.org/book/export/html/14Apr 08 11:57
DaemonFCschestowitz__: If people don't want to take the consequences for donating to offensive causes, then they shouldn't do that.Apr 08 11:58
MinceRi thought it was about funding, not votingApr 08 11:58
schestowitz__both countApr 08 11:58
schestowitz__in a workplaceApr 08 11:58
DaemonFCI changed my Amazon Smile charity to the Electronic Frontier Foundation.Apr 08 11:58
schestowitz__ a superior might not promote someone for voting far rightApr 08 11:58
schestowitz__or even Republican, which in the US is "acceptable" far rightApr 08 11:58
schestowitz__DaemonFC: good for youApr 08 11:59
schestowitz__yuo might be on a "list" for thatApr 08 11:59
schestowitz__one day you put a sticker on your laptop and the next day you're accused of working for FSB in MoscowApr 08 12:00
MinceRi tend to peel stickers off my laptopsApr 08 12:01
MinceRespecially the winblows adsApr 08 12:01
MinceRalso helps reduce the bazaar look :>Apr 08 12:01
schestowitz__I did that tooApr 08 12:01
schestowitz__Some don't peel off so wellApr 08 12:02
cubezzzhaha, I figure you did that MinceR :)Apr 08 12:02
MinceRsome stickers i would like to retain tend to peel off their ownApr 08 12:03
MinceRthe nSeries sticker on my dHell became an empty silvery rectangle after a whileApr 08 12:03
schestowitz__mehApr 08 12:03
schestowitz__mine has warranty stickerApr 08 12:03
MinceRthe GNU or FSF (i can't remember which) sticker i replaced it with also became a silvery circleApr 08 12:03
schestowitz__covering the remnants of a Windows Vistas sticker that did not peel off so wellApr 08 12:03
schestowitz__Because, you know, it's VistaApr 08 12:04
MinceRthe ThinkPad logo on the wrist pad of my tablet PC became a hollow shapeApr 08 12:04
schestowitz__nothing works wellApr 08 12:04
MinceR:>Apr 08 12:04
MinceRmy sweat probably dissolves the solventsApr 08 12:04
cubezzzat least they don't stamp MICROSOFT into the laptop's molecular structure :)Apr 08 12:04
MinceRyetApr 08 12:04
schestowitz__There is also ATI sticker (AMD) and Intel on itApr 08 12:04
schestowitz__I leave the Intel one on because it might not peel off wellApr 08 12:04
*|Omega| is now known as OmegaApr 08 12:04
schestowitz__and it look a bit fancy with hologramic effectApr 08 12:04
MinceRi don't mind the intel stickersApr 08 12:05
schestowitz__It's like "smoking kills" stickerApr 08 12:05
schestowitz__"centrino Inside"Apr 08 12:05
DaemonFCMinceR: Some of those Chromebooks are covered in stickers.Apr 08 12:05
schestowitz__[12:04] <MinceR> my sweat probably dissolves the solventsApr 08 12:06
DaemonFC"OMG, THIS HAS WIRELESS N ZOMG!!!!"Apr 08 12:06
schestowitz__Is Absurdistan ever getting so warm?Apr 08 12:06
DaemonFC"ZOMG INTEL INSIDE!!!!"Apr 08 12:06
schestowitz__YeahApr 08 12:06
cubezzzavoiding Intel is toughApr 08 12:06
DaemonFCI think that the one I bought only has the Intel sticker.Apr 08 12:06
MinceRmy EeePC had lots of stickersApr 08 12:06
schestowitz__Did Google trademark "Chrome"?Apr 08 12:06
MinceR:>Apr 08 12:06
DaemonFCIt has a Haswell Celeron.Apr 08 12:06
schestowitz__Or did it strugglew like ti does with "Glass"?Apr 08 12:06
schestowitz__MS got "Windows", but Google can't get "Glass"Apr 08 12:07
MinceRschestowitz__: the unhabitable concrete box i live in has no air conditioningApr 08 12:07
DaemonFCschestowitz__: I think that the C720 is the best deal out there right now, especially refurbished.Apr 08 12:07
MinceRor proper insulationApr 08 12:07
DaemonFCWhere else are you going to get a laptop that does all that for $150?Apr 08 12:07
cubezzzit's still cold hereApr 08 12:07
cubezzz1 C Apr 08 12:07
DaemonFCAs far as I know, there aren't any $150 Windows laptops out there at all.Apr 08 12:07
MinceReventually my sweat took off the intel stickers too, iircApr 08 12:07
MinceRbut those didn't come apartApr 08 12:08
DaemonFCMinceR: They could probably get the price down some more if they went with AMD.Apr 08 12:09
DaemonFCfor the ChromebooksApr 08 12:09
DaemonFCThe fact that there's an Intel processor in there at all, even just a Celeron, probably raises the price $20-30.Apr 08 12:10
DaemonFCThey could be selling these things brand new for $150 and making a profit with AMD processors.Apr 08 12:10
DaemonFCI deliberately stayed away from the Samsung Chromebook.Apr 08 12:13
MinceRmy 'replace the laptop with an arm tablet' project failedApr 08 12:14
DaemonFCIt's more expensive, it's slower, and it has proprietary graphics drivers that aren't included in standard GNU/Linux distributions, so it's very hard to run anything other than Chrome OS on it.Apr 08 12:14
DaemonFCYeah.Apr 08 12:14
DaemonFCMinceR: I tried that back in 2011 with an Archos G9.Apr 08 12:14
DaemonFCThey're just not good enough.Apr 08 12:14
MinceRmainly because the android UI is not that keyboard-friendly and can't run x2x or synergyApr 08 12:14
MinceR(it traps alt+tab and super+tab for the same thing, and i can't let them through to bVNC)Apr 08 12:15
DaemonFCMinceR: Swype works fine on phones.Apr 08 12:15
MinceRhacker's keyboard works fine on phones and tabletsApr 08 12:15
MinceRwell, sometimes it gets a little sluggishApr 08 12:15
MinceRalso, i couldn't get the armhf qemu binaries to run for x86 or arm guestsApr 08 12:16
MinceRmaybe i didn't have enough memoryApr 08 12:16
MinceRa dualboot-capable rom would solve the UI problems and free up memory for GNUApr 08 12:18
MinceReventuallyApr 08 12:19
DaemonFChttp://jezebel.com/kate-mulgrew-is-in-a-doc-that-argues-the-sun-revolves-a-1560510746Apr 08 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jezebel.com | Kate Mulgrew Is in a Doc that Argues the Sun Revolves Around the Earth [ http://ur1.ca/h17qz ]Apr 08 12:29
DaemonFCThat's just sad.Apr 08 12:29
MinceRindeedApr 08 12:31
MinceRi guess this is dementiaApr 08 12:32
cubezzzI thought geocentricism went out a few centuries agoApr 08 12:40
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MinceRnot in christian taliban landApr 08 12:42
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schestowitz__[12:07] <MinceR> schestowitz__: the unhabitable concrete box i live in has no air conditioningApr 08 12:56
schestowitz__Being sweaty in a box makes me too irritable to work wellApr 08 12:57
MinceRliving in Mordor irritates me even moreApr 08 12:57
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/453501408654802945Apr 08 12:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SEEVed: @schestowitz i wonder a simple hack to boot off usb loading the same OS with a x86 kernel on a disk-less desktopApr 08 12:58
schestowitz__MinceR: how bad is it, on an intl scope, on a scale of 1-10 (worst)?Apr 08 12:59
schestowitz__I'd rank UK 3Apr 08 12:59
MinceRdepends on what you compare it toApr 08 12:59
MinceRmuch worse than the UKApr 08 12:59
schestowitz__seems like scandinavia might be a 2Apr 08 12:59
schestowitz__I don't see many hungarian migrants hereApr 08 12:59
schestowitz__except the 'famous' one, SorosApr 08 12:59
MinceRthere are plenty of hungarian migrants in london, UKApr 08 12:59
schestowitz__Many from Poland thoughApr 08 13:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Death of Window XP Is a Golden Opportunity forApr 08 13:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux http://t.co/iwLwo1P85wApr 08 13:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h17x3Apr 08 13:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Brendan Eich's ouster shows lynch mob at workApr 08 13:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Vovny9T5enApr 08 13:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h17x4Apr 08 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Death of Window XP Is a Golden Opportunity for Linux | Tux MachinesApr 08 13:00
MinceRyeah, i've heard they hate poles thereApr 08 13:00
schestowitz__I think half a million, maybe just in London it would be hundreds of thousands who are becoming the scapegoats of Brits who follow government (plutocrats') papersApr 08 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Brendan Eich's ouster shows lynch mob at work | Tux MachinesApr 08 13:00
schestowitz__The papers here are very racistApr 08 13:01
schestowitz__but covertlyApr 08 13:01
schestowitz__not they insult romaniansApr 08 13:01
schestowitz__and bulgarians too sometimesApr 08 13:01
schestowitz__even though most brits don't seem to view these as anything other than well educated people who can create companies hereApr 08 13:01
MinceRalso, i've heard they believe that hungarians using the word "kurva" are polesApr 08 13:01
schestowitz__The press here is toxisApr 08 13:01
schestowitz__ev en faily exprress and faildependent, not just dailyfailApr 08 13:02
schestowitz__I sometimes pick a paper to inspect headlines at the sauna - wouldn't come across these toxic papers otherwiseApr 08 13:02
schestowitz__front page now is almost always xenophobicApr 08 13:02
MinceRwhat is their motivation for that?Apr 08 13:02
schestowitz__divide and ruleApr 08 13:09
schestowitz__people here vent out anger at impoverished peopleApr 08 13:09
schestowitz__blacks, Asians, east Europeans...Apr 08 13:09
schestowitz__or lower class, like "chavs", construction, etc.Apr 08 13:09
schestowitz__Not bankers, lawyers, loas sharks...Apr 08 13:09
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schestowitz__MinceR: many immigration laws are race-agnosticApr 08 13:23
schestowitz__so it's common to warp immigration laws while holding on to Muslim terrorism as a baitApr 08 13:23
schestowitz__carrot and stickApr 08 13:23
schestowitz__like copyright lobbyists do with child pronApr 08 13:23
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MinceRhttp://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7169Apr 08 13:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Shows Off Unity8 (Mir) and Unity7Apr 08 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (X11) Running at the Same Time on the Same PCApr 08 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cbenYQLUCCApr 08 14:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h18cqApr 08 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open-Source Graphics Performance WithApr 08 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Unvanquished http://t.co/LrVYxr6nY1Apr 08 14:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h18crApr 08 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phone Pricing Will Fall Within $200-400Apr 08 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Category, Mobile OS Can Run In A DesktopApr 08 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Operating System As Well http://t.co/ZfTCjbdAJpApr 08 14:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h18ctApr 08 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Shows Off Unity8 (Mir) and Unity7 (X11) Running at the Same Time on the Same PC | Tux MachinesApr 08 14:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Phone Pricing Will Fall Within $200-400 Category, Mobile OS Can Run In A Desktop Operating System As Well | Tux MachinesApr 08 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     For HTPC folks, XBMC recommends an upgrade fromApr 08 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows XP to Linux http://t.co/DdAXpUq2xMApr 08 14:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h18dbApr 08 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | For HTPC folks, XBMC recommends an upgrade from Windows XP to Linux | Tux MachinesApr 08 14:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Will it ever be the year of the Linux Desktop?Apr 08 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/islBGVBPbSApr 08 14:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h18dcApr 08 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Will it ever be the year of the Linux Desktop? | Tux MachinesApr 08 14:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How Git redefined open source softwareApr 08 14:11
TweetTuxMachines                 development http://t.co/IDUk9aaSuUApr 08 14:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h18ddApr 08 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Git redefined open source software development | Tux MachinesApr 08 14:11
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cubezzzinteresting fact..Apr 08 14:54
cubezzzin 1984 Lexidata had a 1280x1024x8 display :)Apr 08 14:54
cubezzzit was used with an early version of the X window systemApr 08 14:55
MinceR:)Apr 08 14:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Former Chief Security Officer for Microsoft theApr 08 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Chairman of the Board of Firm BehindApr 08 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Heartbleed® http://t.co/aYJTIvvC33Apr 08 18:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h1abnApr 08 18:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Koushik Dutta releases AllCast beta for AmazonApr 08 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 FireTV http://t.co/ZMgQVs4qWiApr 08 18:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h1aboApr 08 18:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi to Deliver a Modular Device forApr 08 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Businesses http://t.co/7xNcclmT6EApr 08 18:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD Releases The Radeon R9 295XApr 08 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/71S2mneARtApr 08 18:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.2.2-35 Distro for Backup IsApr 08 18:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Ready for Testing http://t.co/Gmej12ogyIApr 08 18:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h1abrApr 08 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Former Chief Security Officer for Microsoft the Chairman of the Board of Firm Behind Heartbleed® | Tux MachinesApr 08 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Koushik Dutta releases AllCast beta for Amazon FireTV | Tux MachinesApr 08 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi to Deliver a Modular Device for Businesses | Tux MachinesApr 08 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD Releases The Radeon R9 295X | Tux MachinesApr 08 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.2.2-35 Distro for Backup Is Ready for Testing | Tux MachinesApr 08 18:05
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schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/dr_chris_jones/status/453583485425299456Apr 08 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dr_chris_jones: @JesselynRadack @schestowitz @TruthTalkerUSA Hayden is a Nazi.Apr 08 18:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Replace the Retiring Windows XP with LinuxApr 08 19:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/42f1RE63E5Apr 08 19:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h1b14Apr 08 19:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CRYENGINE to Arrive on Steam for Linux SoonApr 08 19:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WunQbT9etOApr 08 19:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h1b16Apr 08 19:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AAEON EMB-BT1: A Linux-Friendly, Mini-ITX, AtomApr 08 19:22
TweetTuxMachines                 "Bay Trail" Board http://t.co/1IYcVMoSNtApr 08 19:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Replace the Retiring Windows XP with Linux | Tux MachinesApr 08 19:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CRYENGINE to Arrive on Steam for Linux Soon | Tux MachinesApr 08 19:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AAEON EMB-BT1: A Linux-Friendly, Mini-ITX, Atom "Bay Trail" Board | Tux MachinesApr 08 19:22
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3893694Apr 08 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: at the butcher... ![at the butcher](http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5p6xiO0Ed1rn7bzro1_500.jpg) #butcher #nonvegetarian #pigs #reversal #humans #humanbeings #flesh #meat #slaughter #paintingApr 08 19:49
schestowitz__"I like meat a lot, but if I had to kill by myself my own food I would be vegetarian for sure."Apr 08 19:50
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3894537Apr 08 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A report from last year said that only one in 50 people killed by #drones was identified as "leader" (hence "target"). That's accuracy?Apr 08 19:50
schestowitz__"How were they identified exactly? And how many new "leaders" did the strike generate."Apr 08 19:50
MinceRyum yumApr 08 19:50
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3883984Apr 08 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #UN orders #Japan to halt #whale hunt http://www.muktware.com/2014/04/un-orders-japan-halt-whale-hunt/24943 the photo says it all really.Apr 08 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | UN orders Japan to halt whale hunt | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/h1bjg ]Apr 08 20:19
schestowitz__"Headlines you will never see: UN orders US to halt deer hunt UN orders US to halt seal hunt UN orders US to halt fish hunt UN orders US to halt bird hunt UN orders US to halt factory farming I'm not saying I'm for whaling I'mHeadlines you will never see: UN orders US to halt deer hunt UN orders US to halt seal hunt UN orders US to halt fish hunt UN orders US to halt bird hunt UN orders US to halt factory farming I'm not saying I'm Apr 08 20:19
schestowitz__for whaling I'm just saying the UN and the western powers it truly represents are and will continue to be selective about who they chastise." just saying the UN and the western powers it truly represents are and will continue to be selective about who they chastise.Apr 08 20:19
schestowitz__> "Critical crypto bug in OpenSSL opens two-thirds of the Web toApr 08 20:48
schestowitz__> eavesdropping"Apr 08 20:48
schestowitz__> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/04/critical-crypto-bug-in-openssl-opens-two-thirds-of-the-web-to-eavesdropping/Apr 08 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Critical crypto bug in OpenSSL opens two-thirds of the Web to eavesdropping | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h1bts ]Apr 08 20:48
schestowitz__> Apr 08 20:48
schestowitz__> "‘Heartbleed’ OpenSSL Bug Left HTTPS Servers Vulnerable For Two Years"Apr 08 20:48
schestowitz__> http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/heartbleed-bug-openssl-143353Apr 08 20:48
schestowitz__> Apr 08 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk | 'Heartbleed' OpenSSL Bug Left HTTPS Servers Vulnerable For Two Years [ http://ur1.ca/h1btt ]Apr 08 20:48
schestowitz__> you already covered these, including the M$ connection...Apr 08 20:48
schestowitz__And FBI. Schmidt had worked with them as well. They're worse than NSA.Apr 08 20:48
Jibblereveryone going on about this "two thirds of the web" being vulnerable is wrongApr 08 20:52
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/dr_chris_jones/status/453618036650831874Apr 08 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dr_chris_jones: @schestowitz @Microsoft @window Big problem is people seriously hooked to OS of choice. That's partly why Linux has market share of 1.5%Apr 08 20:52
schestowitz__Jibbler: ArsApr 08 20:52
schestowitz__!google techrights Fox technicaApr 08 20:52
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Links: Privacy Erosion and Other Technological ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2014/04/07/technological-erosions-of-rights/Apr 08 20:53
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - 2014 March 25 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/Apr 08 20:53
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Links: News About Surveillance, Covert Intervention ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2014/04/06/surveillance-covert-intervention/Apr 08 20:53
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Recent FUD About GNU/Linux Security May be Related ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2014/03/25/xp-eol/Apr 08 20:53
Jibblerseveral other news places are saying the same thingApr 08 20:53
schestowitz__it has far more than that if one includes mobile and tabletsApr 08 20:53
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/dr_chris_jones/status/453618036650831874Apr 08 20:53
schestowitz__Jibbler: maybe the lies sold by the Schmidy idiotApr 08 20:53
schestowitz__worked for the FBI (worse than NSA)Apr 08 20:54
schestowitz__Then MSApr 08 20:54
schestowitz__the back doors partner of the NSAApr 08 20:54
schestowitz__Now smears FOSSApr 08 20:54
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2014/04/08/howard-schmidt-codenomicon/Apr 08 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Former Chief Security Officer for Microsoft the Chairman of the Board of Firm Behind Heartbleed® | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/h1bw9 ]Apr 08 20:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Huawei Ascend Y530, First Take: Entry-levelApr 08 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 smartphone with 'simple' Android UI optionApr 08 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/vovmTu8b1pApr 08 21:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei Ascend Y530, First Take: Entry-level smartphone with 'simple' Android UI option | Tux MachinesApr 08 21:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hackable home automation controller runsApr 08 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Android http://t.co/2EthXFGbbcApr 08 21:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hackable home automation controller runs Android | Tux MachinesApr 08 21:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 21 Looks To Have A "Playground"Apr 08 21:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Repository http://t.co/ilpwQHj5yiApr 08 21:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 21 Looks To Have A "Playground" Repository | Tux MachinesApr 08 21:12
schestowitz__linux distros named: http://www.itnews.com.au/News/382068,serious-openssl-bug-renders-websites-wide-open.aspxApr 08 21:23
schestowitz__talk about timingApr 08 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnews.com.au | Serious OpenSSL bug renders websites wide open - Security - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au [ http://ur1.ca/h1c6z ]Apr 08 21:23
schestowitz__http://www.zdnet.com/running-windows-xp-programs-on-linux-mint-with-crossover-7000028162/Apr 08 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Running Windows XP programs on Linux Mint with CrossOver | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/h17la ]Apr 08 21:55
schestowitz__Troll: "SVJN, your obsession to kill windows and Microsoft is truly becoming pathetic. This is your Nth post of how or why replace Windows XP with Linux. We all got the message! Please take your pills."Apr 08 21:55
schestowitz__MS got  caught spreading shills specifically in ZDnetApr 08 21:55
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3895522Apr 08 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 6 Ubuntu One Alternatives http://www.techshout.com/alternatives/2014/08/ubuntu-one-alternatives/ but giving files to someone else is never an alternative, just more of the sameApr 08 22:24
schestowitz__"ownCloud is the only one on that list to trust as you can host your own (as I do). Sync, share, web access, calendars, contacts, document editor. Everything you come to expect. iOS, Android, Linux desktop clients abound."Apr 08 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techshout.com | 6 Ubuntu One Alternatives - TechShout [ http://ur1.ca/h1cq6 ]Apr 08 22:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     elementary OS "Isis" First Details Revealed, ItApr 08 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Looks Unbelievably Good – VideoApr 08 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Vgtyhs7nD0Apr 08 23:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi morphs into $30 SODIMM-style COMApr 08 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/FcN2GGoVi8Apr 08 23:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS "Isis" First Details Revealed, It Looks Unbelievably Good – Video | Tux MachinesApr 08 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi morphs into $30 SODIMM-style COM | Tux MachinesApr 08 23:08
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3894839Apr 08 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #hayden ad hominem attacks responded to: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/democrats-call-out-hayden http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/04/ron_wyden_blasts_former_cia_di.html #cia #nsaApr 08 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.msnbc.com | Democrats call out ex-CIA chief's 'condescending' remarks | MSNBC [ http://ur1.ca/h1dlr ]Apr 08 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.oregonlive.com | Ron Wyden rips former CIA director for suggesting 'deeply emotional feelings' tempered 'torture' report | OregonLive.com [ http://ur1.ca/h1dlt ]Apr 08 23:56
schestowitz__"Because nothing is emotional about torture is it? Just a job, causing people intense pain and emotional discomfort? Or is it an emotional response driven by fear and malice designed to terrify people into submission?"Apr 08 23:56
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3894754Apr 08 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Control by fear: new #propaganda film frames #cia as foiling "plot to launch a biological attack in London." http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/movies/noomi-rapace-to-play-cia-agent-30166373.htmlApr 08 23:56
schestowitz__"Hysteria is required to justify power and torture."Apr 08 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.ie | Noomi Rapace to play CIA agent - Independent.ie [ http://ur1.ca/h1dly ]Apr 08 23:56
schestowitz__In some houses, people spend an hour and a half watching a filmApr 09 00:01
schestowitz__here we spend an hour and a half watching interviews with whistleblowers :-)Apr 09 00:01
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DaemonFC21 secs · Apr 09 02:31
DaemonFCI've got an offer on one of my really old computers.Apr 09 02:31
DaemonFCI put it on Craigslist for $30 just to get rid of it. It would never run a version of Windows newer than XP, but it could still run Xubuntu or something and make a really nice computer for web browsing and older video games.Apr 09 02:31
DaemonFCMost of the stuff on Good Old Games runs in Wine (software), and there's so many old games that I could never have afforded new that are like $5 now, with no DRM.Apr 09 02:31
DaemonFCWine has gotten to the point where it's really a better Windows than Windows, especially with the PlayOnLinux front end.Apr 09 02:31
DaemonFCPeople just don't appreciate what an old computer can really do. They lose their value very fast because the current version of Windows is a big bloated behemoth that barely runs on some systems that are quite fast.Apr 09 02:31
DaemonFCSwapping out Windows for GNU/Linux is like telling a person that they can either carry 1,000 pounds of dead weight up a hill or trim it down to the 50 pounds of essentials. Windows really is quite awful. I refuse to ever touch it again.Apr 09 02:31
DaemonFChttps://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10001486_10152320679731575_1116652613_n.jpgApr 09 02:45
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DaemonFChttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/08/star-treks-kate-mulgrew-on-geocentrist-film-i-was-a-voice-for-hire-and-a-misinformed-one/Apr 09 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | ‘Star Trek’s Kate Mulgrew on geocentrist film: ‘I was a voice for hire, and a misinformed one’ | The Raw Story [ http://ur1.ca/h1fb2 ]Apr 09 03:16
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DaemonFChttp://www.avclub.com/article/star-treks-kate-mulgrew-says-she-was-tricked-narra-203216Apr 09 03:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.avclub.com | Star Trek's Kate Mulgrew says she was tricked into narrating film that argues the Sun revolves around Earth · Newswire · The A.V. Club [ http://ur1.ca/h1fgy ]Apr 09 03:47
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DaemonFChttp://gigaom.com/2014/03/30/samsung-chromebook-2-set-to-square-off-against-intel-powered-chrome-os-devices/Apr 09 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gigaom.com | Samsung Chromebook 2 set to square off against Intel-powered Chrome OS devices — Tech News and Analysis [ http://ur1.ca/h0q4u ]Apr 09 08:20
DaemonFCschestowitz__: I think that they're probably overkill for Chrome OS.Apr 09 08:20
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DaemonFCI'm going to sell my Archos 80 G9 tablet.Apr 09 09:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/453811943296741376  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/453810938249244672  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/453810234684108800  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/453809063584071680Apr 09 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "The inventor of the American suburban shopping mall was a socialist. Could his creation have been saved?" https://t.co/CJ7yhLAdj8Apr 09 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.jacobinmag.com | The Shopping Mall’s Socialist Pre-History | JacobinApr 09 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "America and other European nations...dump their nuclear waste in Somalia’s now unprotected seas." http://t.co/JlEIW8kz0UApr 09 09:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme." ~ Attributed to Mark Twain http://t.co/11ACgdvnISApr 09 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.sott.net | Geopolitics of Empire: Mackinder's Heartland Theory and the Containment of Russia -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.netApr 09 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Laziness http://t.co/g38BGuUnxMApr 09 09:33
DaemonFCThey stopped updating it at Android 4.0.4, and it's not the fastest thing around. :PApr 09 09:33
schestowitz__DaemonFC: I mentioned that Best Buy dealApr 09 09:33
schestowitz__twice in articlesApr 09 09:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/453808590047162368  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/453808113872044032  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/453807566435651584Apr 09 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The one problem about EPIC is that some of its key people came from top #prism conspirator: Ray Ozzie http://t.co/GhT5LWcUjBApr 09 09:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google Glass and #Privacy https://t.co/trTWSbKtan as long as #google is in #prism this should obviously be avoidedApr 09 09:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Snowden Speaks: A Vanity Fair Exclusive http://t.co/khqXgwfDRw "limit to the amount of incivility and inequality and inhumanity"Apr 09 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.vanityfair.com | Snowden Speaks: A Vanity Fair Exclusive | Vanity FairApr 09 09:34
DaemonFCschestowitz__: The deal is a little different than what the news said.Apr 09 09:34
DaemonFCYou can only trade in a Windows XP LAPTOP.Apr 09 09:35
DaemonFCThey won't take desktops.Apr 09 09:35
schestowitz__haApr 09 09:35
DaemonFCSo I put that old system on Craigslist.Apr 09 09:35
schestowitz__bastardsApr 09 09:35
DaemonFCI'm going to sell it for $30.Apr 09 09:35
DaemonFCSome guy made me an offer on it. I just want rid of it.Apr 09 09:35
schestowitz__why bother?Apr 09 09:35
schestowitz__the trouble is greater than $30 in valueApr 09 09:35
schestowitz__make a home server out of itApr 09 09:36
schestowitz__or backup machineApr 09 09:36
DaemonFCIt beats having it taking up spaceApr 09 09:36
DaemonFCschestowitz__: The hard drive has a bunch of bad sectors.Apr 09 09:39
DaemonFCI guess I could pop in that 1 TB drive I had from this system.Apr 09 09:39
DaemonFChttps://fortwayne.craigslist.org/sys/4413994964.htmlApr 09 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fortwayne.craigslist.org | Dell Venue Pro 8 - Windows 8.1 Tablet [ http://ur1.ca/h1ha2 ]Apr 09 09:45
DaemonFCDoes this have Restricted Boot?Apr 09 09:45
DaemonFCThe Archos 80 G9 was fairly fast until I updated it to Ice Cream Sandwich.Apr 09 09:55
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cubezzzI think there will be more Linux users due to XP's EOLApr 09 10:23
cubezzzOR... microsoft could release the source code for XP and everyone could improve it as they see fitApr 09 10:24
cubezzz2.11BSD and 4.3BSD still are still updatedApr 09 10:26
cubezzzI've done it myselfApr 09 10:26
cubezzz>> 2.11BSD and 4.3BSD are still updatedApr 09 10:27
cubezzzpeople need to be reminded how important 4.3BSD wasApr 09 10:29
cubezzzit was the template for most of the *nix derivatives that came laterApr 09 10:31
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00IJD3QTC/ref=dp_olp_refurbished?ie=UTF8&condition=refurbishedApr 09 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Buying Choices: Acer 11.6" Chromebook 2 GB 16 GB | C720-2802 [ http://ur1.ca/h1hjn ]Apr 09 10:47
DaemonFCAcer is selling more of these for $149.99 as refurbs.Apr 09 10:47
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKow9w0frk0&noredirect=1Apr 09 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Acer Chromebook C720 review - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h1hjt ]Apr 09 10:47
DaemonFChttp://io9.com/no-kate-mulgrew-does-not-believe-the-sun-orbits-the-ea-1561006523Apr 09 11:32
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DaemonFCschestowitz__: I'll set up the Chromebook right away when it arrives.Apr 09 11:33
DaemonFCI have a feeling that I got more computer than I paid for.Apr 09 11:33
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schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3898721 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3898716Apr 09 13:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Time to migrate away from XP https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_38683286249f8ddf58d4.pngApr 09 13:00
DaemonFCSomeone suggested rigging my phone up to let me tether without paying Sprint extra.Apr 09 13:05
DaemonFCThat would void the warranty on my phone, and I think that Sprint would know something was going on when I started using 500 GB a month of mobile data.Apr 09 13:06
DaemonFC:)Apr 09 13:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/3898044Apr 09 13:07
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DaemonFC2 secs · Apr 09 13:26
DaemonFCI actually saw an app for sale in Apple's app store, that tells Apple users how to calculate a tip.Apr 09 13:26
DaemonFCSo, let me get this straight. Someone who got through school after managing to flunk basic math has an $849 phone.Apr 09 13:26
DaemonFCOne wonders how these people do that. They can't all be Walmart managers, can they?Apr 09 13:26
DaemonFCAnyway, sitting there wondering how little you can get away with tipping someone that makes $2.13 an hour, instead of rounding up to the nearest dollar, while you're holding an $849 phone, officially makes you the douchiest douche in doucheville.Apr 09 13:26
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DaemonFCshared a link via Slashdot.org.Apr 09 13:30
DaemonFC8 seconds agoApr 09 13:30
DaemonFChttp://news.slashdot.org/story/14/04/08/2047253/comcast-takes-2014-prize-for-worst-company-in-america?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=facebookApr 09 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.slashdot.org | Comcast Takes 2014 Prize For Worst Company In America - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/h1iok ]Apr 09 13:30
DaemonFCABSOLUTELY!!!! **** COMCAST! **** them in their stupid faces! I hope they all get **** and **** rot and die horrible deaths!Apr 09 13:30
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cubezzzhttp://www.netzero.net/dslApr 09 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netzero.net | DSL Internet Service | Cheap DSL | NetZeroApr 09 13:35
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/comcast-considers-creating-its-own-mobile-phone-service/Apr 09 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Comcast considers creating its own mobile phone service | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h1ira ]Apr 09 13:43
SosumilulzApr 09 13:43
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Sosumihttps://twitter.com/ProSyriana/status/453834771500892160Apr 09 14:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ProSyriana: #Wahhabism #SaudiArabia http://t.co/cKCuFtodxGApr 09 14:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ProSyriana: #Wahhabism #SaudiArabia http://t.co/cKCuFtodxGApr 09 14:16
Sosumi"If a women gets raped walking in public alone, then she, herself is at fault! She is only seducing m,en by her presence! She should have stayed home like a Muslim Women!"Apr 09 14:18
Sosumias said by Dr. Abd Al-Aziz Fawzan Al-Fawzan, professor of islamic law, KSAApr 09 14:18
Sosumi*facepalm*Apr 09 14:18
MinceRthat's abrahamic religion for youApr 09 14:19
Sosumiaka some dude dressed in table sheetsApr 09 14:19
MinceRdresses vary, savagery remainsApr 09 14:22
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Sosumiwell, they could follow their dumb religion without the need of pushing it to the limitApr 09 14:23
MinceRthey could but they don't seem to want toApr 09 14:24
Sosumihttp://s1.kikar.net/th/data/auto/addonsmgr/is/p0astrdr__w470h385q70.jpgApr 09 14:24
Sosumithere some Jewjitsu folksApr 09 14:25
Sosumisame crapApr 09 14:25
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DaemonFC[08:43] <Sosumi> lulzApr 09 15:21
DaemonFCWell, at least it gives people who were bitching about Sprint something to hate even worse.Apr 09 15:22
DaemonFCThere is actually some competition for mobile phone carriers.Apr 09 15:23
DaemonFCThere's four big ones in the United States, and you can use any of them in any area.Apr 09 15:24
DaemonFCWith POTS, you had one phone company in your area, and that was that.Apr 09 15:24
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/molyneux-im-sure-theyre-going-to-release-an-xbox-one-without-kinect/Apr 09 15:30
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DaemonFC"I actually wish Kinect wasn't a requirement. It feels like an unnecessary add-on to me. Maybe it's because we're in England, and it doesn't really use the TV stuff, but it feels more and more like a joke. My son and I sit there saying random things at it, and it doesn't work. They could cost-reduce it [by removing Kinect]. I'm sure they’re going to release an Xbox One without Kinect. It would be unthinkable that they wouldn't."Apr 09 15:30
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Sosumiremind me why one should buy an xbox?Apr 09 15:49
Sosumiexpensive door stopper?Apr 09 15:49
Sosumistepping block?Apr 09 15:50
Sosumiwhen the ps4 is cheaper and more powerfulApr 09 15:50
MinceRone should not.Apr 09 15:51
Sosumiand actually has some nice gimmicky stuff with the psvita that lets you stream ps4 games into itApr 09 15:51
Sosumikind of like the nvidia shield doesApr 09 15:51
Sosumieven m$ DrPizza_ doesn't have oneApr 09 15:52
Sosumiplus I don't knowApr 09 15:56
Sosumiwould you like to have some kid yelling at you while playing onlineApr 09 15:56
Sosumi?Apr 09 15:56
MinceRnopeApr 09 15:57
SosumiI see it unfortunate that not a lot come to gnu/linuxApr 09 15:57
Sosumibut at least the price barrierApr 09 15:57
Sosumikeeps those lil'dudes awayApr 09 15:57
Sosumi*the p+rice barrier of pc gamingApr 09 15:59
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cubezzzheh, just tapped into RTVE BrazilApr 09 17:19
cubezzztvfox is kind of neatApr 09 17:20
cubezzza weird mix of flash and mplayer pluginsApr 09 17:26
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cubezzzATV Baku worksApr 09 17:47
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Sosumione of the dudes responsible for the LSD inspired ios7 has just been booted out of crappleApr 09 20:44
Sosuminow the entire gui design will fall under jony iveApr 09 20:45
MinceRit will still suckApr 09 20:46
MinceRall their principles are ass backwardsApr 09 20:46
Sosumiyou know, that guy who made a "computing" buttplugApr 09 20:46
Sosumiwell...Apr 09 20:47
Sosumimaybe the buttplug was conceived in order to prevent their principles from ever coming out of their, collective, assesApr 09 20:48
MinceR:>Apr 09 20:48
MinceRgnApr 09 21:23
Sosumio/Apr 09 21:24
Sosumiios7 in one imageApr 09 22:16
Sosumihttp://i.imgur.com/C5RlnLs.gifApr 09 22:16
Sosumihttp://25.media.tumblr.com/0383cde6194a0197421b5dd79675adea/tumblr_msxj29a1eL1svn1xeo1_1280.jpgApr 09 22:19
Sosumiand GNApr 09 22:19
msb_Sosumi: These Jews in black -- aren't their bare hands an abomination unto the Lord?  http://s1.kikar.net/th/data/auto/addonsmgr/is/p0astrdr__w470h385q70.jpgApr 10 00:06
msb_cubezzz: Thanks for all the help you gave me on TV listings!  When I have time I'll write a program to sift through the XML and show exactly what I want.Apr 10 00:08
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XFaCEschestowitz__: helloApr 10 04:38
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Sosumimsb_, if those jews in black lift their veilsApr 10 06:32
Sosumithey'll suck your soul awayApr 10 06:32
Sosumiand leave you as nothing more than a withered cadaverApr 10 06:33
Sosumi:)Apr 10 06:33
Sosuminothing the bugs will want yaApr 10 06:33
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schestowitz__XFaCE: heyApr 10 08:30
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/paulhindes/status/454159311942721536Apr 10 08:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@paulhindes: LOL. They think this will help their int'l appeal. MT @schestowitz: #dropbox adds war criminal to board http://t.co/j9geHMc6vo not satireApr 10 08:31
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schestowitz__[00:06] <msb_> Sosumi: These Jews in black -- aren't their bare hands an abomination unto the Lord?  http://s1.kikar.net/th/data/auto/addonsmgr/is/p0astrdr__w470h385q70.jpgApr 10 08:32
schestowitz__LOLApr 10 08:32
schestowitz__is this real?Apr 10 08:33
schestowitz__Looks like crossover of Saudi women and penguinsApr 10 08:33
msb_I dunno, but they're rather scary.Apr 10 08:33
msb_I'm sure they have machine guns under those robeslApr 10 08:34
msb_But please, not penguins!  More like zombies.Apr 10 08:34
schestowitz__xbox watches YOU http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/molyneux-im-sure-theyre-going-to-release-an-xbox-one-without-kinect/Apr 10 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Molyneux: “I’m sure they’re going to release an Xbox One without Kinect.” | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h1j9i ]Apr 10 08:36
schestowitz__IdiotsApr 10 08:36
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3903586Apr 10 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: conservative voter... ![conservative voter...](http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbtefzYWiN1qz6f9yo1_500.jpg) #conservatives #conservatism #voter #vote #voting #votingcounts #thereisadifference #republicans #rightwingers #bigots #racists #redstatesApr 10 09:04
schestowitz__""conservative" ?! in germany we call it: #NAZI one #world | one #future |one #color .... #red like blood"Apr 10 09:04
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3903690Apr 10 09:23
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schestowitz__"Swedish media is, for all it's political correctness, shockingly void of dissent."Apr 10 09:23
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454160499413102592  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454160499413102592  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454157786759585792  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454157686108880897Apr 10 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 'Professor' https://t.co/ZugRirMufN radical religions an issue irrespective of which http://t.co/KBWbJq109TApr 10 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: UK 'aid' is financing a corporate scramble for Africa http://t.co/kZouVWMeJe #uk #africa #imperialsmApr 10 10:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #prism foreseen https://t.co/1AxLbCaoQOApr 10 10:02
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454159826617393152Apr 10 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nsa #prism #dropbox : hey, why do we collect people's data and then pass it to the military? Let's just make an interface for direct uploadApr 10 10:03
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/nermincanik/status/454187264797851648Apr 10 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@nermincanik: @schestowitz Are you sure? :-/ Is it true? @linuxfoundationApr 10 10:21
schestowitz__" All good, techrights.org seems fixed or unaffected! "Apr 10 10:24
schestowitz__http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/?#techrights.orgApr 10 10:24
Sosumischestowitz__ those veiled jews are realApr 10 10:34
Sosumihttp://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/44764/threats-veiledApr 10 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tabletmag.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/h1s6q ]Apr 10 10:35
Sosumiand hereApr 10 10:35
Sosumia jewjitsu marriageApr 10 10:35
Sosumihttp://wedding-splendor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/11.jpgApr 10 10:36
Sosumithe only difference is that the will be wife wears a fancy burqaApr 10 10:36
schestowitz__troll headlines http://www.itworld.com/open-source/413560/ios-better-developers-androidApr 10 10:36
schestowitz__always question marksApr 10 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Is iOS better for developers than Android? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/h1s73 ]Apr 10 10:36
Sosumiios has a paywall to start actually developing for itApr 10 10:37
schestowitz__Does this stay on all the time though?Apr 10 10:37
Sosumiwhile android doesn'tApr 10 10:37
schestowitz__Other religions have that type of wedding gown too, with ther veil coming offApr 10 10:37
Sosumihardcore jewish women also wear a hijabApr 10 10:38
schestowitz__Google News should remove articles locked behind paywallsApr 10 10:45
schestowitz__Sosumi: is that like a wig?Apr 10 10:45
schestowitz__somone told me 2 years ago that the orthodox ones wear wigs, which I didn't knowApr 10 10:45
schestowitz__Now, imagine a religion that makes boob jobs mandatoryApr 10 10:46
Sosumihttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/aug/13/jerusalem-exhibition-hasidic-jewish-cultureApr 10 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Jerusalem exhibition lifts the veil on Hasidic Jewish culture | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/h1s91 ]Apr 10 10:46
SosumithoseApr 10 10:46
schestowitz__as opposed to genital mutilationApr 10 10:46
schestowitz__Sosumi: ah, those... looks like nursingApr 10 10:46
SosumiyepApr 10 10:46
Sosumikind of a short hijabApr 10 10:46
schestowitz__can you access http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&ct2=us&usg=AFQjCNFbLNGW-xp83JqDaRcbl-raVVAkdA&clid=c3a7d30bb8a4878e06b80cf16b898331&cid=43982370612513&ei=B-BFU7iKLqrUiwaTeQ&url=http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/10/technology/personaltech/the-many-alternative-computing-worlds-of-linux.htmlApr 10 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/h1s98 ]Apr 10 10:47
schestowitz__I wonder what they say..Apr 10 10:47
SosumiI canApr 10 10:47
SosumiHAVE you ever wondered what happened to Linux? Linux is the free software created through the open source development process that many technology enthusiasts had predicted would revolutionize the world of computing.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiIt may not be widely known, but Linux did revolutionize computing. If you own an Android phone or a Kindle e-reader, you are a Linux user. Linux is at the core of those popular devices and is found in a variety of other places, from the world’s most powerful supercomputers down to the tiny Raspberry Pi device that is a favorite among electronics hobbyists.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiBut Linux has had less success in personal computers. Fewer than 2 percent of desktop or laptop computers run it, according to a survey by Net Applications. That could be because for the bulk of Windows and Mac users, switching entirely to Linux probably does not make sense. But exploring Linux could still be worth the time for those looking for a proven, low-cost alternative to the two mainstream operating systems.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiInstalling Linux as the main operating system on a spare computer is one way to explore it. Some versions can also run live on a CD or DVD, but a more flexible choice may be to run it “virtually.” That way, it can run within Windows or Mac OS X and a variety of Linux versions can be installed. Programs like VirtualBox or VMware Fusion make this possible.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiTo do this, you will need to figure out a few things. Does your computer have a 32-bit or 64-bit processor? (Most newer ones are 64-bit, but Linux is available for either.) And you may need to enable your processor’s virtualization capabilities. If you become stuck, plenty of online tutorials are available to help.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiThere are many types of Linux. At their core, many are the same. But their interfaces and applications may differ, as well as the level of support from the open-source community.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiBodhi Linux is all about minimalism and performance. This makes it an option for older or “low-end” systems. The desktop setup, called Enlightenment, is frugal with resources while offering an eye-catching and straightforward experience. The desktop is free of clutter, the task bar is well organized and menus are easy to navigate. The other stated ideal of Bodhi is choice. While only a basic set of applications are installed by default,Apr 10 10:48
Sosumi users can download more from an AppCenter with free software organized in categories like office, education and multimedia.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiLinux Mint offers a choice of desktop environments, including one called Cinnamon. A Mac or Windows user may find Cinnamon intuitive to navigate. There is a task bar along the bottom, with a menu button on the left that provides access to applications, system settings and folders. A number of useful programs can be installed by default, like LibreOffice, an Office-like software set; the Firefox browser; Adobe Flash for media like YouTube viApr 10 10:48
Sosumideos; Thunderbird for mail; Pidgin for instant messaging; and GIMP for image editing. A built-in Software Manager provides a way to download and install many more applications.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiUbuntu is one of the more widely known versions of Linux and also one of the simplest to install. An installation program can replace an existing system or, in some cases, set Ubuntu to be an option when a computer starts up. The desktop environment, called Unity, has a tablet-like look.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiUbuntu comes with a collection of installed applications like Firefox and LibreOffice. It also has an online storage feature called Ubuntu One, with five gigabytes of free storage for photos, music and other files; access to these can be made from within Ubuntu or across devices like phones, Macs and PCs. If you are not a fan of the Unity layout, you can try Xubuntu and Lubuntu for a more familiar look.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiFedora was started in 2003 as an offshoot of Red Hat Linux. Still sponsored by Red Hat Inc., Fedora has gained a reputation as a testing ground for features that may end up in Red Hat Enterprise Linux. New editions are released frequently, and the current version, Fedora 20, is available with a choice of desktop environments.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiThe Gnome 3 environment, the default, departs from tradition: The user is presented with an empty desktop area and no task bar, dock or “Start” button. Clicking the Activities item in the top left corner will reveal applications and other options, including a search box for finding documents, contacts and other items. Fedora comes with installed programs like Firefox, Evolution mail, Rhythmbox for music and Shotwell for managing photos.Apr 10 10:48
SosumiElementary OS is another Linux flavor that aims for ease of use and performance — as well as smoothness. Elementary OS also includes a few Mac-like elements, like a dock at the bottom of the screen and “hot corners” for fast switching to different work spaces.Apr 10 10:49
SosumiOf course numerous other types of Linux are available. For more technical versions, consider options like Slackware and Arch. Or, if you prefer baby steps, take a look at Zorin, which emulates aspects of Windows. And if you cannot find a type of Linux you like, you can always create your own with options like Linux From Scratch or Ubuntu Builder.Apr 10 10:49
SosumiLinux is not for everyone. But if you feel constrained by Windows or Mac OS X, it can offer a way out. And if you enjoy choice and flexibility, you just may become hooked.Apr 10 10:49
schestowitz__cheersApr 10 10:52
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454196550466813952 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454195459947757571  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454195013753536512  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454194235697561600Apr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Firefox OS 2.0 Will Have An Awesome Graphical User Interface http://t.co/mXbIEdlQDb #mozilla #firefox #linuxApr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxg.net | Firefox OS 2.0 Will Have An Awesome Graphical User Interface | LinuxG.netApr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nytimes omits #gnu from history and cites Microsoft-linked #NetApplications to make #gnu #linux seem insignificantApr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "FUD factor worked in 1999.. FUD seems to be working... mass migration to Linux" http://t.co/9CucGcqWPkApr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.economist.com | Difference Engine: End of the road for Windows XP | The EconomistApr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Windows XP's Demise Will Help Linux Leapfrog Mac OS X 10.9 http://t.co/CYSFptcLo9 #winxp #gnu #linux #windowsApr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.fool.com | Windows XP's Demise Will Help Linux Leapfrog Mac OS X 10.9 (IBM, MSFT)Apr 10 11:00
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454193195346563072  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454192777803595776  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454192417156386816    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454191873515880448Apr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "The Many Alternative Computing Worlds of Linux - New York Times" - locked behind paywall. Shove it, #nytimesApr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open source software a solid alternative to costly brands http://t.co/uuKphcJjmz cost and brands are not the issue. Freedom is.Apr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.ie | Open source software a solid alternative to costly brands - Independent.ieApr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The PRISM Trade Agreement: we give you government contracts, subsidies; you give us access to all your data. #corruption #nsa #ciaApr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google wants CCTV inside people's business http://t.co/deVR1QpbER because spying on digital habits is not enoughApr 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Google woos enterprise developers with 'Glass at Work' program • The RegisterApr 10 11:00
Sosumiosx 10.9 is an abominationApr 10 11:00
schestowitz__How so?Apr 10 11:01
schestowitz__(I haven't been keeping an eye on osux)Apr 10 11:01
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454187245223030784  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454184913693315073  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454183337801056256Apr 10 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Red Hat News: OpenStack Training, Google Deal, Fedora 21 http://t.co/HMUoTVWCCA #redhat #gnu #linux #openstackApr 10 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Red Hat News: OpenStack Training, Google Deal, Fedora 21 | TechrightsApr 10 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CMS News: WordPress, Drupal, and More http://t.co/hN4I11L2wt #WordPress #DrupalApr 10 11:01
Sosumiclunky and minimized to the point of being anti userApr 10 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | CMS News: WordPress, Drupal, and More | TechrightsApr 10 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Glamourising the thieves https://t.co/qyeXyONoXhApr 10 11:01
Sosumiosx 10.6 was the pinnacle of osxApr 10 11:01
Sosumiafter that it all went downApr 10 11:01
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/454197077095247872Apr 10 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: End of the road for Windows XP - http://t.co/d6npLnQpPV reasonable coverage of GNU/Linux from @economist (v @schestowitz)Apr 10 11:01
schestowitz__Sosumi: why?Apr 10 11:02
schestowitz__What were the mistakes?Apr 10 11:02
Sosumino arrows on the scrool bars, scrool bars way too tin, opengl still trailing behind, memory problems with 10.9Apr 10 11:03
Sosumilack of contrastApr 10 11:03
Sosumiparts of the stitched leather HUI are still present from the 10.7 mistakesApr 10 11:03
Sosumi*GUIApr 10 11:03
Sosumithe multi display options with the top bar on the second screen was way, way overdueApr 10 11:04
Sosumimulti display still fails with now programs not remembering their last position on the display when they were closedApr 10 11:05
Sosumixquartz, quartz and windowserver bugs are not getting fixesApr 10 11:05
Sosumidespite some problems coming from the initial release of 10.9Apr 10 11:06
Sosuminot some, ALLApr 10 11:06
Sosumiand I also got some weird bugs with openclApr 10 11:07
Sosumithat I couldn't get replicate on fedoraApr 10 11:08
Sosumi*replicatedApr 10 11:08
Sosumiprobably die to the precarious state of the driversApr 10 11:08
Sosumi*dueApr 10 11:09
schestowitz__So mostly UI things?Apr 10 11:09
schestowitz__Not ignoring ODF and such strategic things?Apr 10 11:09
schestowitz__Anyway, Linux got better since apple's 10.6 daysApr 10 11:09
schestowitz__Visually we've come a long wayApr 10 11:09
schestowitz__so choosing OSuX for themes ain't that rationalApr 10 11:09
schestowitz__It would have been the only reason for me to ever choose OSuXApr 10 11:10
schestowitz__The same goes for hypeOSApr 10 11:10
schestowitz__Android has good appearanceApr 10 11:10
Sosumichoosing osx for the GUI is a huge mistakeApr 10 11:10
schestowitz__so  at skin-deep level Apple lost itApr 10 11:10
schestowitz__Sosumi: some people associate pretty with easyApr 10 11:10
Sosumiand the internals of the OS are kind of a messApr 10 11:10
Sosumifor example in regards with opencl, you'll get a overall 20% difference between osx and linux/windowsApr 10 11:11
Sosumisimply due to the fact that apple is slow if ignorant to put there vendor specific features and/or kept drivers up to dateApr 10 11:12
Sosumiand xcode, aside from the usual lack of bug fixesApr 10 11:32
Sosumistill doesn't come close to vs or eclipseApr 10 11:32
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/widefox/status/454204741112070145Apr 10 11:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@widefox: @schestowitz I would guess the same. I did a quick test of Yahoo, Google, BBC etc. and they range in that order from fixed to unfixed.Apr 10 11:33
schestowitz__None of my sites affectedApr 10 11:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/bzzzgeek/status/454206397337862144Apr 10 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bzzzgeek: #heartbleed irresponsible disclosed and is #Microsoft involved? http://t.co/cHZjcKXnBp via @schestowitzApr 10 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Former Chief Security Officer for Microsoft the Chairman of the Board of Firm Behind Heartbleed® | TechrightsApr 10 11:39
schestowitz__http://www.cbronline.com/news/security/cryptography-could-limit-surveillance-data-collection-090414-4211998Apr 10 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | How the NSA could use cryptography to enhance users' privacy - Computer Business Review [ http://ur1.ca/h1sic ]Apr 10 11:44
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/widefox/status/454210231837663232Apr 10 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@widefox: @schestowitz luck? Estimate I saw was 60% of all secure sites.Apr 10 11:54
schestowitz__Depending on whether they use httpsApr 10 11:54
Jibblerthe earlier 66% estimates were based on the combined market share of Apache and nginxApr 10 12:18
Jibblerbut that counted all HTTP sitesApr 10 12:18
Jibblerand not all HTTPS sites using Apache and nginx had the TLS heartbeat extension enabledApr 10 12:18
Jibblerso it's more like 17% of all HTTPS sites that were affectedApr 10 12:18
Jibbler(so that's like half a million sites rather than a few hundred million)Apr 10 12:22
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Sosumiyay, DrPizza, or how everyone stopped hating XPApr 10 13:36
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/memory-lane-before-everyone-loved-windows-xp-they-hated-it/Apr 10 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Memory lane: before everyone loved Windows XP, they hated it | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h1rjq ]Apr 10 13:37
Sosumixp only began to be ok after the second releaseApr 10 13:37
Sosumibut no mention to thatApr 10 13:38
Sosuminor no mention to those issues with xp where everything would automatically runApr 10 13:39
Sosumisurfed a wrong website? here's a gazillion popups, bars and junkApr 10 13:40
Sosumiofc that was awesome for computer repair shopsApr 10 13:40
Jibblerthat sounds like a web browser issue rather than an operating system issueApr 10 13:40
Sosumiit was IEApr 10 13:40
Sosumieverything would automatically installApr 10 13:41
Sosumibut the xp "everyone" seems to loveApr 10 13:43
MinceRi never loved winblows xpApr 10 13:43
Sosumiis xp sp2Apr 10 13:43
Sosumibut no mention to that eitherApr 10 13:44
SosumiDrPizza_, a pig with lipstick it's still a pigApr 10 13:44
Sosumiand how could I forget to mention how many installs did SP2 break...Apr 10 13:49
Sosumiand didn't M$ pull it out shortly after release?Apr 10 13:50
Sosumihttp://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-xp-sp2-is-big-step-forward-in-security-but-it-can-break-things/#.Apr 10 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Windows XP SP2 is big step forward in security--but it can break things - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/h1tdv ]Apr 10 13:51
Sosumifirst article that popped out on googleApr 10 13:51
MinceRit's his job to smear so much lipstick on the pig that the pig is no longer visibleApr 10 13:53
cubezzzI wrote a bit on operating systems here:Apr 10 13:54
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/os-with-source-code.txtApr 10 13:54
cubezzzunix v6 is definitely worthy of study, that's why MIT made Xv6 written in ANSI C for teaching purposesApr 10 14:11
cubezzzI see XP's EOL as an opportunity to load up more boxes with Linux, BSD, and Plan 9Apr 10 15:19
cubezzzXP is irrelevant to meApr 10 15:19
cubezzzno source code for device drivers... and it's bloatedApr 10 15:19
cubezzzI said that in 2001 :)Apr 10 15:20
cubezzzsimple simple stuff like running old scanners under win2000 was a problem tooApr 10 15:21
cubezzzthey (HP) didn't bother supporting win2000 for SCL scannersApr 10 15:21
cubezzzthey said (paraphrasing) "too bad, this isn't the answer you like, buy a new scanner"Apr 10 15:22
cubezzzso yeah, end of XP, so what, I never used it onceApr 10 15:23
cubezzzwant to see how easy it is to write to scanner in Linux?Apr 10 15:26
cubezzzhttp://www.cubeman.org/scanner/scantest2.cApr 10 15:27
Sosumicreative didn't bother either in supplying versions of their sound card controlling software that worked on xpApr 10 15:29
Sosumiduring the transition from 98 to xp back thenApr 10 15:29
Sosumiso folks using the live 5.1 and the original audigy cards had to buy an audigy 2Apr 10 15:30
Sosumisound cardApr 10 15:30
Sosumior just use the driver they made availableApr 10 15:30
Sosumiwith no controlling softwareApr 10 15:30
Sosuminor EAX for sound effects in gamesApr 10 15:30
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cubezzzcreative did give out some datasheets, I can't remember which onesApr 10 15:40
cubezzzCT4810 PCI works, VIA AC97 worksApr 10 15:41
cubezzzprobably there driver support is crap for linux thoughApr 10 15:43
cubezzzs/there/their/Apr 10 15:43
cubezzzThomas Sailer wrote the driver for ensoniq, it's totally open sourceApr 10 15:47
Sosumitheir linux initiative had always been jokeApr 10 15:54
Sosumiand that has been defunct since 2005Apr 10 15:55
Sosumitheir audigy 2 parts from 2003 never saw a gnu/linux releaseApr 10 15:56
Sosumiand I can confirm thatApr 10 15:56
cubezzzok, after a quick look it seems that Live 5.1 has decent supportApr 10 15:56
Sosumisince I had back then one of their higher end audigy cardsApr 10 15:56
Sosumithe audigy 2 platinum exApr 10 15:57
Sosumilive, 128bit pci, etcApr 10 15:57
Sosumiprobably the original audigy tooApr 10 15:57
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SosumiI've just looked into their offeringsApr 10 17:28
Sosumiand from what I see, they're pretty much deadApr 10 17:28
Sosumiwhy bother in getting a sound card with an integrated headphone ampApr 10 17:29
Sosumiwhen you can pretty much get an external dac+amp and route all the sound through toslinkApr 10 17:30
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sebsebsebhiApr 10 17:30
Sosumiseb⁹⁰⁰⁰Apr 10 17:30
Sosumifrom the onboard soundApr 10 17:37
Sosumiusually realtek, lolApr 10 17:37
sebsebsebSosumi: MinceR I nearly gave SUSE some money and may stll heh hehApr 10 17:42
SosumiSUSY is a dirty ladyApr 10 17:42
Sosumiyou need to show her the $$$ for her to "open" upApr 10 17:43
Sosumijoke asideApr 10 17:44
Sosumiwhat a wasteApr 10 17:44
Sosumigive the money instead to appleApr 10 17:44
SosumijokingApr 10 17:44
Sosumior just save itApr 10 17:44
sebsebsebSosumi: they have a t-shirt I kindof wnat for some reasonApr 10 17:45
Sosumiwhat a silly excuseApr 10 17:46
Sosumito give money to herApr 10 17:47
Sosumihttp://www.cafepress.com/lovegeek.17732699Apr 10 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cafepress.com | Linux - Born To Frag Value T-shirt > Born To Frag > GEEK and FUNNY T-shirt and Gift Shop [ http://ur1.ca/h1umz ]Apr 10 17:50
Sosumiget that one insteadApr 10 17:50
Sosumiit bears Sosumi's seal of approvalApr 10 17:50
Sosumi:)Apr 10 17:50
sebsebsebSosumi: how to get people interssted in Linuxor open sourceApr 10 18:17
sebsebsebSosumi:  in 7 minutes hmmApr 10 18:17
sebsebsebspeakng :dApr 10 18:17
SosumisimpleApr 10 18:17
sebsebsebSosumi: oh/?Apr 10 18:18
sebsebsebSosumi: I am down for a talk next ThursdayApr 10 18:18
sebsebsebgoing to talk about how I became interested in Linux etcApr 10 18:18
sebsebsebSosumi: ,but to a audiance where most peoplearen't really computer peple a well so hmmApr 10 18:18
Sosumithe openes of free software allows for the same software to never stagnateApr 10 18:18
sebsebsebSosumi: yeah, bbutApr 10 18:18
Sosumiif you don't like what is being doneApr 10 18:19
Sosumifork itApr 10 18:19
sebsebsebyeah,bbt that's more my next talk I think, tring to explain that a bitApr 10 18:19
sebsebsebSosumi: I am not done with the  stuffabout me yetApr 10 18:19
sebsebsebSosumi: the 3rd talk,  can be abouet persuaing them to use stuff :dApr 10 18:19
sebsebsebpersuadeingApr 10 18:19
Sosumiwell, they persuade them to use their computers to do something productiveApr 10 18:20
Sosumilike facebook, skype, pron, etcApr 10 18:20
Sosumilike actually using their time for something good, like learning how to programApr 10 18:21
Sosumimaybe learn cad and 3d print a penguin shaped mugApr 10 18:22
sebsebsebSosumi: most people don't have our kin of experincesApr 10 18:22
sebsebsebthey don't experience swiching frm WIndows to LInux 10 years agoApr 10 18:22
sebsebsebetcApr 10 18:22
sebsebsebthey don't experience swtiching to Mozilla around that time as well and Open Office to Libre Office etcApr 10 18:23
sebsebsebthey don't experence real computer choiceApr 10 18:23
cubezzzthere was a pre-windows era :)Apr 10 18:23
sebsebsebchoice of OS,  Linux ditro,  GUI etc etcApr 10 18:23
cubezzzwindows didn't always existApr 10 18:23
sebsebsebcubezzz: yepApr 10 18:23
cubezzzwhen I was younger I talked to guys about BC :)Apr 10 18:23
sebsebsebactaully a lot of these people are older than meApr 10 18:23
sebsebsebsoApr 10 18:23
cubezzzBefore Computers Apr 10 18:24
sebsebsebthey will hav probablby expereinced some of the old pre WIndows stuff toApr 10 18:24
cubezzzyes, so you can mention that in your talkApr 10 18:24
sebsebsebyeah I want to talk about becoming interestd in computers myself at a young ageApr 10 18:25
sebsebsebthe old Achorns and BBC's at schoolApr 10 18:25
sebsebsebhow I got interested in web design a bit,  thn aobut Linux etcApr 10 18:25
sebsebsebalready did a talk ther ebefore, wher I stared mentiong htings, but a lot of it dind't go as planned  etcApr 10 18:25
Sosumiwell you knowApr 10 18:25
sebsebsebcubezzz: I need a good begining,  end and conclusionApr 10 18:25
sebsebseband a title this time as well realyApr 10 18:25
cubezzzyou can talk about the Dark Ages of ComputingApr 10 18:25
sebsebseband  I need to realy try and stick to the 7 minutes or soApr 10 18:25
Sosumiand before that there were computers which used relays and switches to create logicApr 10 18:26
sebsebsebcubezzz: well I was thinking the 90'sApr 10 18:26
sebsebsebsomething about dial upApr 10 18:26
sebsebseband bonzi budy :dApr 10 18:26
sebsebsebanyone remmber bozni budy? heh hehApr 10 18:26
Sosuminot much choice for gui thereApr 10 18:26
Sosumippl just need to adaptApr 10 18:26
sebsebseband the dancing baby screensaverApr 10 18:26
sebsebseban the 56k  dial up modems etcApr 10 18:26
cubezzzdark ages was kind of like 1994 to 2002 or soApr 10 18:26
sebsebsebcubezzz: well I didn't really get properly into computers untill 1997Apr 10 18:27
sebsebsebsince I was youngApr 10 18:27
sebsebsebso that's when I started to experiment with programs in WIndows and suchApr 10 18:27
cubezzzugh, right in the middle of the Dark agesApr 10 18:27
sebsebsebwhy are you calling that time period the dark ages?Apr 10 18:27
cubezzz98% microsoft dominated eraApr 10 18:28
sebsebsebwell started to beApr 10 18:28
sebsebsebin 1997 or so yeahApr 10 18:28
sebsebsebbye bye Achorns bye bye BBC's or nearlyApr 10 18:28
cubezzzyes, see early 1990s had a greater mix of machinesApr 10 18:29
cubezzzand 80s tooApr 10 18:29
sebsebsebcubezzz: yep ineedApr 10 18:29
sebsebseb,but then it went al WindowsApr 10 18:29
sebsebsebcubezzz: that' the whole point of my tak as wle reallyApr 10 18:29
sebsebsebI want to talk about choicesApr 10 18:29
sebsebsebI an mention the rassbery pi in there to and od my joke about hte name :dApr 10 18:29
sebsebseband suchApr 10 18:29
sebsebseb,but  yeahApr 10 18:29
cubezzzah, I found the pic I was looking for:Apr 10 18:29
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ibm-601.jpgApr 10 18:30
sebsebsebcubezzz: exactly  90's we had more coice or hwateverApr 10 18:30
sebsebsebthen it all went WIndos baisllyApr 10 18:30
sebsebseband Mac for the art sudents maybeApr 10 18:30
cubezzzok, back in a bit :)Apr 10 18:30
MinceR184205 < sebsebseb> Sosumi: MinceR I nearly gave SUSE some money and may stll heh hehApr 10 18:47
MinceRdoesn't m$ give them enough money already?Apr 10 18:47
Sosumiit was like I saidApr 10 19:00
SosumiSUSIE is a dirty ladyApr 10 19:00
Sosumino money for herApr 10 19:00
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cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/decommoditization.txtApr 10 19:11
cubezzzeveryone was talking about decommoditizing in the late 90'sApr 10 19:20
cubezzzas I said, a bad eraApr 10 19:20
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/Computerworld.page034.jpgApr 10 19:28
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Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/whitehat-hacker-goes-too-far-gets-raided-by-fbi-tells-all/Apr 10 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Whitehat hacker goes too far, gets raided by FBI, tells all | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h1vus ]Apr 10 20:40
Sosumiand the poor good samaritan is usually the one that gets shaftedApr 10 20:41
Sosumihad he instead sold the data, he could have made a nice amount of moneyApr 10 20:42
Sosumiplus he'd also probably be able to have a view on research dataApr 10 20:43
Sosumiwhich he could also, to the chineseApr 10 20:43
Sosumior north koreansApr 10 20:44
Sosumior the israelisApr 10 20:44
Sosumiplain sad,Apr 10 20:44
Sosuminow he's unemployed when could be enjoying himself a vacation on some black sea resortApr 10 20:45
XFaCEhi schestowitz__ Apr 10 20:59
XFaCESosumi: I must say, this recent OpenSSL thing really bolsters CJDNSApr 10 21:49
MinceRgnApr 10 22:28
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DaemonFCYeah, if you do the right thing, you make no money, and get arrested.Apr 11 01:30
DaemonFCIf you do the wrong thing, you might get arrested, but you will make a lot of money.Apr 11 01:31
DaemonFCSo, the system is stacked to nudge people to do the wrong thing.Apr 11 01:31
schestowitz__of courseApr 11 01:32
schestowitz__you just need to see who funds the systemApr 11 01:32
schestowitz__!google scotus appointed byApr 11 01:32
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - List of Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States - Wikipedia ... | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Justices_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_StatesApr 11 01:32
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Supreme Court of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_StatesApr 11 01:32
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TechrightsBot-tr[4] - HowStuffWorks "How Supreme Court Appointments Work" | http://people.howstuffworks.com/supreme-court-appointment.htmApr 11 01:32
schestowitz__!google scotus  campaign contributionsApr 11 01:33
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - The Supreme Court has struck down overall campaign contribution ... | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/02/supreme-court-mccutcheon_n_5076732.htmlApr 11 01:33
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Supreme Court lifts ban on aggregate campaign donations | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/04/02/supreme-court-campaign-finance/4481675/Apr 11 01:33
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Supreme Court strikes down limits on federal campaign donations ... | http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-strikes-down-limits-on-federal-campaign-donations/2014/04/02/54e16c30-ba74-11e3-9a05-c739f29ccb08_story.htmlApr 11 01:33
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Supreme Court Strikes Down Limits on Campaign Contributions ... | http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/04/supreme-court-strikes-down-limits-on-campaign-contributions/Apr 11 01:33
schestowitz__> "Key tampering and forgery excerpts added by Cryptome."Apr 11 01:37
schestowitz__> http://cryptome.org/2014/04/radack-greenwald.htmApr 11 01:37
schestowitz__> Apr 11 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cryptome.org | Jesselyn Radack Emails Glenn Greenwald [ http://ur1.ca/h1xtc ]Apr 11 01:38
schestowitz__> See spoofing examples.Apr 11 01:38
schestowitz__http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/analysis-of-openssl-freelist-reuseApr 11 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tedunangst.com | analysis of openssl freelist reuse [ http://ur1.ca/h1xv6 ]Apr 11 01:46
schestowitz__http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/04/10/new-tests-show-evidence-forgery-gospel-jesus-wife/IusII8b4eI86HgDTKipLhN/story.htmlApr 11 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bostonglobe.com | New tests show no evidence of forgery in ‘Gospel of Jesus’s Wife’ - Metro - The Boston Globe [ http://ur1.ca/h1xvc ]Apr 11 01:47
DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/10259856_10151962660501179_1411587503163352707_n.jpgApr 11 01:51
DaemonFCOff to Burger King....Apr 11 01:51
schestowitz__mehApr 11 01:52
schestowitz__toy boys?Apr 11 01:52
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454422158908067841   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454422015660015616  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454421814312452096    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454421310790463488Apr 11 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Monetary award for making storage so much better so much faster http://t.co/gnoHCa8rVT #ibm #hardwareApr 11 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techweekeurope.co.uk | Inventor Of Modern Storage Stuart Parkin Awarded The 2014 Millennium PrizeApr 11 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google Chrome Beta Upgraded to Version 35 for All Platforms http://t.co/I97TVuHoK2 #chrome #google http://t.co/gz25tK2y7aApr 11 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Google Chrome Beta Upgraded to Version 35 for All PlatformsApr 11 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.chromium.org | Chromium Blog: Chrome 35 Beta: More developer control over touch input, new JavaScript features, and unprefixed Shadow DOMApr 11 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google Starts Early Dogfooding Of Android 4.4.3, Public Release Expected In Coming Weeks http://t.co/hAfVZZbEJ9 #android #google #linuxApr 11 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.androidpolice.com | Rumor: Google Starts Early Dogfooding Of Android 4.4.3, Public Release Expected In Coming WeeksApr 11 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another reason to avoid #bt is support of 'secure' link to #gchq #nsa #prism through abusive monopolist #microsoft http://t.co/f4JTtZXOUwApr 11 01:56
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454420685075791873  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454420570181218304   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454419831530725377    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454419535282860032   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454419264695717888Apr 11 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Zorin OS Lite 8.1 Is the Perfect OS for Users with Old PCs Running from Windows XP http://t.co/vs0g9e5pyx #ZorinOS #gnu #linux #winxpApr 11 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Zorin OS Lite 8.1 Is the Perfect OS for Users with Old PCs Running from Windows XPApr 11 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: New contradictions http://t.co/bEC8J010cgApr 11 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "There's a ton of trash in the Indian Ocean." http://t.co/tyGPqvJ7sJApr 11 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | The big environmental problem highlighted by the search for Flight 370Apr 11 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #fbi goes after 'weev' and now another victimless 'crime' http://t.co/r9R9EsnaIS FBI and #NSA want a monopoly on #security holesApr 11 01:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Judge says prosecutors should follow the law. Prosecutors revolt. http://t.co/9frnSfr0kz prosecutors as bulliesApr 11 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | Judge says prosecutors should follow the law. Prosecutors revolt.Apr 11 01:57
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454419101730226176  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454417686974701568   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454417539406508032   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454417468254347264   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454417159264149506Apr 11 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Cryptome disinformation http://t.co/jRvEZ7Y7da maybe jealous of Wikileaks, Greenwald, et al.Apr 11 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Firefox OS 2.0 starts emerging from its cocoon http://t.co/07e2H5czMm #linux #mozilla #firefox #firefoxApr 11 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cnet.com | Firefox OS 2.0 starts emerging from its cocoon - CNETApr 11 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The KVM Groundswell Continues http://t.co/c2Au26Frq3 #kvm #linux #ibmApr 11 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | The KVM Groundswell Continues | Linux.comApr 11 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The NY Times discovers the virtues of desktop Linux http://t.co/Tpjaljyn2d #nytimes also spreads some myths, thoughApr 11 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com | The NY Times discovers the virtues of desktop Linux | ITworldApr 11 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Android IPTV set-top features 802.11ac, #Marvell SoC http://t.co/LfP1P1M4Q7 #android #linuxApr 11 01:58
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454417061339758592  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454415607182934016    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454414309159108608    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454414298761408512   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454413270657400833   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454413235610193920Apr 11 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Pivotal Brings PaaS to the Enterprise Through Community Collaboration http://t.co/fIF5Tu9epU #pivotal #freeswApr 11 01:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Football Manager Classic 2014 for PS Vita Might Also Get a Steam for Linux Version http://t.co/yvN2SawVCV #steam #gnu #linux #gamesApr 11 01:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Wasteland 2 to Finally Get a Linux Version http://t.co/9RExigD5y0 http://t.co/jCb6C0onhx #games #gnu #linuxApr 11 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Wasteland 2 to Finally Get a Linux VersionApr 11 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Wasteland 2 Linux release confirmed | MuktwareApr 11 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Anti-Gravity Racing Game #FLASHOUT 2 to Get a Linux Version http://t.co/aXTNdAUCuD #gnu #linux #gamesApr 11 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Anti-Gravity Racing Game FLASHOUT 2 to Get a Linux VersionApr 11 01:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Gallium3D LLVMpipe Performance In Ubuntu 14.04 LTS http://t.co/WyYweVsvOe #ubuntu #benchmarkApr 11 01:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: DevOps amplifies your open source credentials http://t.co/cDYLdPG9XD many job opportunitiesApr 11 01:59
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DaemonFCshared a link.Apr 11 02:05
DaemonFC8 seconds agoApr 11 02:05
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/windows-xp-theme-lubuntuApr 11 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Windows XP Theme For Linux Is Ideal For New Users [ http://ur1.ca/h1xyw ]Apr 11 02:05
DaemonFCYou can make GNU/Linux look like anything you want. Why make it look like a demented Fisher Price toy that was the second worst thing to happen to the world in 2001? (The first being Dubya Bush).Apr 11 02:05
dcolebatchlol - good call Apr 11 02:39
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3908386Apr 11 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New contradictions http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/04/10/new-tests-show-evidence-forgery-gospel-jesus-wife/IusII8b4eI86HgDTKipLhN/story.htmlApr 11 07:41
schestowitz__"Heh. The various churches are sitting on all sorts of interesting scrolls they won't let the public see. Given such censorship, no one knows reality."Apr 11 07:41
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3908450Apr 11 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu One Shut Down; Here Are Some Alternatives http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/613412-ubuntu-one-shut-down-here-are-some-alternatives/ more alternatives. #ubuntuone #ubuntu #gnu #linuxApr 11 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theepochtimes.com | Ubuntu One Shut Down; Here Are Some Alternatives [ http://ur1.ca/h1zvf ]Apr 11 07:42
schestowitz__"most of the alternatives would have a link to the NSA in some way or some legal arm twisting"Apr 11 07:42
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3904465Apr 11 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Anti- #drones #activism in theatres http://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsburgh/city-theatres-grounded/Content?oid=1742823 resentment and protests from US public are working http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/08/killer-drones-in-a-downward-spiral/Apr 11 07:42
schestowitz__"So this means that no one ever will have access to Afghanistan's natural resources but USA?"Apr 11 07:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.counterpunch.org | Killer Drones in a Downward Spiral? » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names [ http://ur1.ca/h1zvj ]Apr 11 07:42
schestowitz__http://www.muktware.com/2014/04/google-wants-trademark-glass-bid-stalled/25178Apr 11 07:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.muktware.com | Google wants to trademark ‘Glass’ but bid stalled | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/h1zx0 ]Apr 11 07:48
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454524038720008192  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454524282367131649  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454524828750729216Apr 11 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The biggest and most vicious military base in the world http://t.co/u4sg2yoGWM #espionage #blackmail #droNSAApr 11 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Netherlands Must Outlaw Downloading, EU Court Rules (Update) http://t.co/O959C5YXNy because it might lead to competitionApr 11 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> torrentfreak.com | The Netherlands Must Outlaw Downloading, EU Court Rules (Update) | TorrentFreakApr 11 08:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The so-called "piracy levy" becomes a state subsidy. So when the #copyright monopoly gets it (e.g. France), people assume it's pre-paid.Apr 11 08:45
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454526117127655424  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454526593105674240  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454526783732588545Apr 11 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: ACPI & Power Management Get More Updates In Linux 3.15 http://t.co/FsBbaXPLrk #acpi #linuxApr 11 08:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Google adds more Android features to Chrome OS http://t.co/VnDFDyMIm1 #chromeos #linux #androidApr 11 08:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Wanna build a module for Google's Project Ara mix-and-match phone? Here are your specs http://t.co/bBT0o67h1n #ara #android #googleApr 11 08:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Wanna build a module for Google's Project Ara mix-and-match phone? Here are your specs • The RegisterApr 11 08:51
MinceRgeekingsApr 11 09:07
MinceRhttp://tldrwikipedia.tumblr.com/Apr 11 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tldrwikipedia.tumblr.com | TL;DR WikipediaApr 11 09:50
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DaemonFChttp://sploid.gizmodo.com/photographer-reveals-the-secret-of-the-windows-xp-deskt-1561984824Apr 11 10:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sploid.gizmodo.com | Photographer reveals the secret of the Windows XP desktop image [ http://ur1.ca/h20x8 ]Apr 11 10:30
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DaemonFChttp://news.google.com/news/url?sr=1&ct2=us%2F1_0_s_0_1_a&sa=t&usg=AFQjCNEQnACMiYd3g3qUdtsil9Y2YM9SyA&cid=43982373621456&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcworld.com%2Farticle%2F2142080%2Fwindows-xp-expiration-couldnt-save-pc-market-in-q1.html&ei=2MlHU4qLM4S4wQGRwQE&rt=SECTION&vm=STANDARD&bvm=section&did=-6503064953873218872&sid=-7716231806632919020Apr 11 11:56
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DaemonFCdamn itApr 11 11:56
DaemonFCseems the article is dead anywayApr 11 11:57
DaemonFCIt said that even the death of Windows XP isn't driving PC sales.Apr 11 11:57
*DaemonFC is on his Chromebook right nowApr 11 11:57
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DaemonFChttp://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/11/end-of-window-xp-support-fails-to-lift-figures-for-declining-pc-marketApr 11 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | End of Windows XP support fails to lift figures for declining PC market | Technology | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/h21ej ]Apr 11 12:03
cubezzzpeople don't want to be on the upgrade treadmill any moreApr 11 12:04
cubezzzsome of my customers have slot 1 P3's or even Pentium Pro systemsApr 11 12:06
cubezzzfine for IRC, email, running a scanner or printerApr 11 12:07
Sosumia treadmill takes you nowhereApr 11 12:07
Sosumiwhile a computer upgrade adds more computational powerApr 11 12:07
Sosumiand that comes down to needsApr 11 12:07
cubezzzone of my customers is in her late 80sApr 11 12:08
cubezzzshe plays solitaire on her computer :)Apr 11 12:09
cubezzzI definitely did not see computers that were 10 to 15 years old being used in the 90sApr 11 12:16
cubezzzeven older sometimesApr 11 12:17
cubezzzthat's something newApr 11 12:17
cubezzzThompson didn't stay on a PDP-7 for more than a couple of yearsApr 11 12:18
cubezzzit was PDP-7 (1969) to PDP-11/20 (1971)Apr 11 12:19
msb_Old things can still sometimes do useful work.Apr 11 12:19
cubezzzthen PDP-11/40, then PDP-11/45 in quick successionApr 11 12:19
cubezzzwhen P3 coppermine's came out that was a sweat spotApr 11 12:19
cubezzzlow heat, very reliableApr 11 12:20
msb_Didn't the 6809 chip emulate the PDP-11 architecture to some extent?  Lots of registers...Apr 11 12:20
cubezzzthe old PDP-11 series were slow, and ate a lot of powerApr 11 12:20
msb_But no virtual memory.Apr 11 12:20
cubezzzhmmm, not reallyApr 11 12:21
cubezzz6809 was 8-bit with a few 16-bit featuresApr 11 12:21
msb_I'm working on a C program in which I have to allocate zillions of little strings.  Should I just call malloc, or would it be a lot faster for me to allocate them myself out of a megabyte array?  How fast is malloc?Apr 11 12:22
msb_...in Linux/gcc, of course.Apr 11 12:23
cubezzzPDP-11 to Motorola 68000 there's some influenceApr 11 12:23
cubezzzmalloc is for big stuffApr 11 12:25
cubezzze.g. you need a big chunk of memory you use mallocApr 11 12:25
cubezzzarrays for smaller stuffApr 11 12:25
cubezzzI think just using the stack is faster than malloc Apr 11 12:26
msb_Use the stack as a heap?  (vague recollection)  How?Apr 11 12:27
cubezzzno, I just mean using the stack is fasterApr 11 12:28
msb_These strings are going to be pointed to from structs which will be pointed to by an array.Apr 11 12:28
cubezzzassuming you don't overflow the stack :)Apr 11 12:28
msb_I'm reading that xml file into a zillions of structs with strings attachedApr 11 12:29
msb_actually, arrays of strings.Apr 11 12:29
msb_I should do it the simplest way.  Maybe it will be fast enough.  If not, then I'll make my own mini-super-malloc.Apr 11 12:30
cubezzzoh man, I remember I used to use EMS for big stuffApr 11 12:34
cubezzzit was a dog's dinnerApr 11 12:34
msb_After being processed by the dog?Apr 11 12:36
cubezzzthat was in the early 90'sApr 11 12:37
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cubezzza bit before Linux version 1.0 Apr 11 12:39
cubezzzeven on the amiga I could do it a lot better, but the amiga I had was so slowApr 11 12:39
msb_Throwing hardware at a problem -- if you already have it -- is worthwhile to keep the code simple, so it's fun.Apr 11 12:40
Sosumihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPhtJcn_mR4Apr 11 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | 'Part of Cirque de Soleil?' Shoe thrown at Hillary Clinton during Las Vegas speech - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h21kj ]Apr 11 12:41
cubezzzI still have my notes for it :)Apr 11 12:41
cubezzz486-DX40 with 4 megs, running msdosApr 11 12:41
Sosumishoe throwers need to learn to aimApr 11 12:41
msb_I saw a great 3D display powered by an Amiga at one of the West Coast Computer Faires.  Shutter goggles.  A one-foot cube "stereo tank" as in old scifi stories.Apr 11 12:41
cubezzzI allocated 600,000 longs, so 2.4 megs of ramApr 11 12:45
MinceRafaik malloc already gets memory from the OS in chunksApr 11 12:46
msb_cubezzz: How long did it take?Apr 11 12:47
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cubezzzthe <U, R> antipode calculation took 11 hoursApr 11 12:49
cubezzzit was finding an antipode of the <U, R> subgroup of the cubeApr 11 12:49
cubezzzit was the best I could do with 4 megs :)Apr 11 12:49
cubezzzor as the Greeks say: an-TIP-uh-DEEZ Apr 11 12:52
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cubezzzeven Gates thought EMS was a kludgeApr 11 12:56
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MinceRwhat gates believes is irrelevantApr 11 13:00
MinceRbut, yes it wasApr 11 13:00
MinceR:>Apr 11 13:00
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msb_cubezzz: Some of the entries for program series episodes don't have S/E numbers.  See our PM.Apr 11 14:23
gde33|2I had a go at edutainment, http://go-here.nl/game/PlanetArray.htmlApr 11 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-go-here.nl | JavaScript PlanetArrayApr 11 14:40
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Sosumihttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_oc_trials&num=1Apr 11 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] NVIDIA GeForce 337 Beta Driver Linux Overclocking Trials [ http://ur1.ca/h22bz ]Apr 11 15:18
Sosumieasy OCing no longer a feature of windowsApr 11 15:19
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schestowitz_log_LOL https://diaspora-fr.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_30467b4a5c4228b53f44.jpgApr 11 15:55
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msb_Mfrs that support overcooking must be out of their minds!Apr 11 16:22
msb_Or maybe they think if they shorten the lifetime of the products they sell, people will buy another one.Apr 11 16:23
Sosumiit is just a video cardApr 11 16:56
Sosumippl that care about ocing will probably replace the card in 2 yearsApr 11 16:57
Sosumiif not lessApr 11 16:57
Sosumibecause those folks also happen to be the gamersApr 11 16:57
Sosumiand hey, much better to do benchs and oc competitions on gnu/linux than on windowsApr 11 16:58
Sosumiright?Apr 11 16:58
msb_Yes, but how many people could tell the difference between oc and not without a numerical measurement or a stopwatch or side to side comparison?Apr 11 17:02
msb_I think the whole idea is silly.  The result is imperceptible.  Except when the hw overheats and dies.Apr 11 17:03
cubezzzI never overclock anythingApr 11 17:04
msb_Mfrs spend huge amounts of effort on protecting their stuff against heat and specifying just enough margin of safety.Apr 11 17:04
msb_Me either.Apr 11 17:04
msb_But, yes, it's better that even loonies use Linux instead of Windows.Apr 11 17:06
schestowitz[11:57] * DaemonFC is on his Chromebook right nowApr 11 17:38
schestowitzBesy Buy?Apr 11 17:38
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3901307Apr 11 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Forget About Windows XP, Tranform Your Linux Mint in Windows 7 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-About-Windows-XP-Tranform-Your-Linux-Mint-in-Windows-7-436805.shtmlApr 11 17:56
schestowitz__"Why on earth would I do that?"Apr 11 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Forget About Windows XP, Tranform Your Linux Mint in Windows 7 [ http://ur1.ca/h1mu1 ]Apr 11 17:56
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3908262Apr 11 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: The NY Times discovers the virtues of desktop Linux http://www.itworld.com/open-source/413968/ny-times-discovers-virtues-desktop-linuxApr 11 17:57
schestowitz__"The article is mundane but its publication on nyt makes it very interesting. Presumably triggered by XP EOL?"Apr 11 17:57
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cubezzzfolks are such troglodytes when it comes to operating systemsApr 11 18:18
Sosumiwhat stopwatch?Apr 11 18:23
Sosumiseems like no one ever heard of synthetic benchmarksApr 11 18:23
Sosuminor frame ratesApr 11 18:23
Sosuminor watercooling nor non reference coolersApr 11 18:24
Sosumialso what I said yesterday of xp pre spiApr 11 18:24
Sosumiwas because you could basically execute a script through the browser to edit the registryApr 11 18:25
Sosumianother thing DrPizza_ forgot to mention in his piece about why everyone loves windows xpApr 11 18:26
cubezzzI never used XPApr 11 19:13
cubezzzit was Redhat 6.1 that I started to really notice linuxApr 11 19:16
cubezzzRyerson was using Darkstar Linux 0.99 in some coursesApr 11 19:17
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/redhat-6.2.pngApr 11 19:31
SosumiI never really used xp eitherApr 11 19:51
Sosumiother than on a gaming pc I had at that timeApr 11 19:51
Sosumijust for gamingApr 11 19:51
Sosumibut I remember much of those issues including remote shutdownsApr 11 19:58
Sosumibecause all the computers at my school, well, were on xpApr 11 19:59
cubezzzall of them, no exceptions?Apr 11 20:01
Sosumia system 7 macApr 11 20:08
Sosumithat escaped the renewal at the timeApr 11 20:09
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sebsebsebhiApr 11 20:10
MinceRhayApr 11 20:11
sebsebsebMinceR: new spaekrs, new keyboard, and new mouse, not just any mouse or keyboardApr 11 20:12
sebsebseband more stuff in the boxApr 11 20:12
sebsebsebMinceR: isn't it fun getting new stuff for the computer :dApr 11 20:12
MinceRuh huhApr 11 20:12
MinceRit is, most of the time, but not all of the timeApr 11 20:13
sebsebsebyepApr 11 20:13
sebsebsebMinceR: how about a mouse with a very nice thumb rest and it's on the side/up0rightApr 11 20:16
sebsebsebMinceR: meant to be good for RSI etcApr 11 20:16
MinceRif it's a good gaming mouse, sureApr 11 20:16
sebsebsebwelll I bought thatApr 11 20:16
sebsebsebMinceR: I was a bit unsure about the priceApr 11 20:16
sebsebseb,but I guess worth it reallyApr 11 20:17
sebsebsebit's not a standard mouseApr 11 20:17
MinceRi still don't know if i prefer optical or laserApr 11 20:17
sebsebsebI think other htan the things I just put though that it's just a optical really thoughApr 11 20:17
cubezzzanother odd thing, I don't think too many people know about this, the whole processes as files thing was from Unix version 8Apr 11 20:17
MinceR/proc?Apr 11 20:17
cubezzzyesApr 11 20:17
sebsebsebMinceR: also a keyboard with two USB ports on the back on the right, which is nice, but it's nice also, because wellApr 11 20:18
cubezzza Bell Labs inventionApr 11 20:18
sebsebsebMinceR: ok it's made for Windows reallyk, got a lot of hot keys toApr 11 20:18
sebsebsebso I was unsure what would work with LinuxApr 11 20:18
sebsebsebrealyk, but wellApr 11 20:18
sebsebsebmy comp ones opended up Nautilus :)Apr 11 20:18
sebsebsebso that's goodApr 11 20:18
MinceRmy logitech g710+ has a pass-through usb port :>Apr 11 20:18
sebsebsebvolume control buttons work nicelyApr 11 20:19
sebsebseband I am not sure about the other hot keys yetApr 11 20:19
MinceRyou can bind them anywayApr 11 20:19
sebsebsebwhat do you meanApr 11 20:19
sebsebsebbind use for what is wanted?Apr 11 20:19
sebsebsebchange the layout a bit?Apr 11 20:19
MinceRbind extra keys to functionsApr 11 20:21
sebsebsebI think I done something like that beforeApr 11 20:21
MinceRhttp://www.theverge.com/2014/4/11/5604300/heartbleed-may-not-leak-private-ssl-keys-after-allApr 11 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Heartbleed security flaw may not be as dangerous as thought | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/h24b9 ]Apr 11 20:47
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XFaCEMinceR: now there are two of us mwahahahaApr 11 20:53
MinceRoh shi--Apr 11 20:53
XFaCEXFaCE_: testApr 11 20:53
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XFaCEThistleWeb: hello gordon from another motherApr 11 20:59
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MinceRhere's one about hungary >> http://i.imgur.com/2pBmirI.pngApr 11 23:10
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MinceRgnApr 11 23:45
schestowitz__MinceR: thanks for the TheVerge linkApr 12 00:36
schestowitz__Very useful to learn that, I'll prepare another post with some of my findings. It seems like NSA knew about it for yearsApr 12 00:36
schestowitz__Microsoft's Howard Schmidt decided to 'leak' it to distract from XP EOL perhapsApr 12 00:36
schestowitz__Schmidy had worked for the FBIApr 12 00:36
schestowitz__So he might have colleagues who could tell him about thisApr 12 00:36
schestowitz__and he'd hype it up, give it a scary name, make a dot com web site, a logo, etc.Apr 12 00:37
schestowitz__Metchandising the FUDApr 12 00:37
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454784444629794817   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454784075858202624   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454783995730227200   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454783921629446144Apr 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Sarah Watz Elected by Open Source Matters to Guide #Joomla http://t.co/epmZtXHKOX "More than 3 percent of the web runs on Joomla"Apr 12 02:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Linux KVM Virtualization comes to IBM Power servers soon http://t.co/oAF0GFGD9z #kvm #ibm #server #gnu #linuxApr 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Linux KVM Virtualization comes to IBM Power servers soon | ZDNetApr 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Nikon launches Android powered Coolpix S810c http://t.co/gqyjQqZ288 #android #linuxApr 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Nikon launches Android powered Coolpix S810c | MuktwareApr 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Prisonscape Is a Brutal RPG Inspired by The Wire and Oz Set to Launch on Linux http://t.co/CU0y0QS7hN #rpg #games #gnu #linuxApr 12 02:37
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454783699088056320   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454781406573772801   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454780809522974720    https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454778508326481921Apr 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Meanwhile in Fecesbook, people upload photos of relatives from inside their house to #nsa accessible servers. #facebook #prismApr 12 02:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: After 16 years, CIA declassifies new portions of "KUBARK" interrogation manual https://t.co/9LWU2yjiVC #cia #tortureApr 12 02:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: 'US Operating Without any Kind of Boundaries' http://t.co/95XzUpVfBM imperialism without borders, with bases in #Germany alsoApr 12 02:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Condoleezza Rice, surveillance and torture fan, joins Dropbox board http://t.co/ni5G9ztCcg #surveillance #prism #dropbox #nsaApr 12 02:37
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454778098727530496  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454777685915754496  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454777432504270848   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454777230011670528  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454776609518936064Apr 12 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Greenwald returns to US first time since #Snowden leaks: Will Obama arrest him? http://t.co/ayQmLocren #bushobama #pr would suffer.Apr 12 02:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Heartbleed reportedly known to #nsa for years, as #snowden had alluded to (bug doors, not back doors). Schmidt et al. exploit it for FUD.Apr 12 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The last thing the #nsa wants is people (esp. outside the US) adopting Free software and #gnu #linux b/c #microsoft is where back doors areApr 12 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Howard Schmidt (chairman of board of company that marketed "Heartbleed") worked for #fbi & #nsa partner, #prism pioneer. #nsa knew the bug.Apr 12 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Salix MATE 14.1 Beta 1 Is Based on MATE 1.8 http://t.co/v6EKsePYOw #salix #gnu #linuxApr 12 02:39
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454776543299260416  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454776461422239744   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454776313673691136Apr 12 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #SparkyLinux 3.3.2-test1 Base Edition Is for Command-Line Aficionados http://t.co/JnnlEy4t9M #gnu #linuxApr 12 02:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Budge up VMware, array upstart Tintri's ramming in Red Hat Linux KVM http://t.co/YOMoNKSD5Y #redhat #kvm #linuxApr 12 02:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Virt-Manager Now Supports FreeBSD's Bhyve http://t.co/yPJTYv650h #freebsd #bsd #unix #virtmanagerApr 12 02:40
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3914531Apr 12 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: [![Image](https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1972457_619354678160285_8112330109710648214_n.jpg)](http://j.mp/ORPgSv) **ma ciao! ^_^** [http://j.mp/ORPgSv](http://j.mp/ORPgSv)<p>#lamaApr 12 08:17
schestowitz__"I am surrounded by lamas, they are like dogs where I live. This my friend is an alpaca. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpaca "Apr 12 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Alpaca - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaApr 12 08:17
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3914251Apr 12 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Condoleezza Rice, surveillance and torture fan, joins Dropbox board http://boingboing.net/2014/04/09/condoleeza-rice-supporter-of.html #surveillance #prism #dropbox #nsaApr 12 08:18
schestowitz__"What..."\Apr 12 08:18
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3914422Apr 12 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Replacing Russian Gas Deliveries with US Shale Gas? Washington Lies to the EU http://www.globalresearch.ca/replacing-russian-gas-deliveries-with-us-shale-gas-washington-lies-to-the-eu #eu #us #russiaApr 12 08:18
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schestowitz__"If Russia cannot make business due to sanctions that is fine, but if Russia don't want to sell its natural gas at the price the EU wants that is very bad."Apr 12 08:19
schestowitz__Apr 12 08:21
schestowitz__That's going to feel awful.|Apr 12 08:21
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3914445Apr 12 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8135418624/h20622DF0/) For my #German friends... #beer #bier #german #deutschApr 12 08:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Ubuntu News: Themes, Unity 8, Meizu Phone, Ubuntu Touch, and Elementary OS http://t.co/wVxPCu46Um #ubuntuApr 12 10:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Political News: Protests Face a Ban, Covert Actions Continue, #ColdWar Era Imperialism, Privacy, and War on Justice http://t.co/Db5pSAFY7WApr 12 10:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Links 12/4/2014: Games http://t.co/OVodltCGoK Applications http://t.co/0SWymfatfz Instructionals http://t.co/SIqK3IN3FX #techrightsApr 12 10:03
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454912276685127680 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454911633778040832  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454910792547450880Apr 12 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Empire of debt and covert occupation https://t.co/N8YlQoRZeY #china missing there - used to be controlled by narcoticsApr 12 10:26
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454910113409949696  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454909488886452224  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454908279815438336Apr 12 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Michael Lewis appears on “60 Minutes” and declares that the U.S. stock market “is rigged,” people pay attention" http://t.co/xa68yKKvWCApr 12 10:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Incarceration http://t.co/kPBAQtyRZCApr 12 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How did enlightenment thinkers distinguish between 'drugs' and 'medicines'? And how should we? http://t.co/S4xd63Jzwv power of labelsApr 12 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> aeon.co | Yesterday’s drugs are tomorrow’s medicines – Benjamin Breen – AeonApr 12 10:27
schestowitz__http://mrpogson.com/2014/04/11/wintel-balloon-deflates/Apr 12 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Wintel Balloon Deflates | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/h29i7 ]Apr 12 10:55
cubezzzthe Unix wars mucked things up for UnixApr 12 10:59
cubezzzthen the switch to Plan 9, which was interesting, but hardly anyone uses itApr 12 11:00
cubezzzand Xenix/Venix/etc was a big turn offApr 12 11:02
schestowitz__ https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454936458487676928  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454920636511834112  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454915894511407104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454915700701007872  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/454914810921377792Apr 12 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: I have just noticed that ECT, including #LinuxInsider , didn't quite get enough from static buttons and added spyware buttons to same sitesApr 12 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Microsoft transition from back doors (compromising PCs) to #prism (enticing people to hand over all data) http://t.co/nm5V97bJ4RApr 12 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com | Turning The Ship: Microsoft Might Have Begun A Subtle Shift From Windows To Services | TechCrunchApr 12 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Desperately Seeking Linux Programmers http://t.co/nz7bsNaOm2 #gnu #linux a top trendApr 12 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxinsider.com | Desperately Seeking Linux Programmers | Community | LinuxInsiderApr 12 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Btrfs Gets A Few More Linux 3.15 Changes http://t.co/7YWS0mKqWz #kernel #linux #btrfsApr 12 11:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CIA and WH under pressure after Senate torture report leaks http://t.co/g5Si4iSI20 finally, what took it so long? #cia #crime #tortureApr 12 11:59
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oiaohmboy the recent openssl error has caused a nice big mess.Apr 12 13:38
cubezzzoiaohm, got a question for youApr 12 13:42
oiaohmcubezzz: what is the question.Apr 12 13:43
cubezzzdo you know what virtio_console does?Apr 12 13:43
cubezzzremember we were talking about the linux text console getting corrupted?Apr 12 13:43
cubezzzI'm still looking for ways to reset the text consoleApr 12 13:43
cubezzzeven when I shutdown X and restart it using a different driver (e.g. vesa) it still doesn't reset the text consoleApr 12 13:44
cubezzzthere's /sys/class/vtconsole/vtcon0/nameApr 12 13:45
cubezzzand it shows (S) VGA+Apr 12 13:45
cubezzzfor (S)ystem driverApr 12 13:45
cubezzzbut there's a (M)odular driver tooApr 12 13:46
oiaohmhttp://seife.kernalert.de/blog/2012/10/23/using-virtio-console-with-kvm/Apr 12 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-seife.kernalert.de | Using virtio console with KVM « seife’s assorted rants [ http://ur1.ca/amb73 ]Apr 12 13:46
cubezzzyeah I read thatApr 12 13:46
oiaohmDid you note the tty bit.Apr 12 13:46
oiaohmIts going to be interesting when the Linux console code is moved to userspace.Apr 12 13:47
cubezzzyeah I did what they said actuallyApr 12 13:47
oiaohmcubezzz: tty is a use a seriel like console.Apr 12 13:47
oiaohmNot the normal framebufferApr 12 13:48
oiaohmYes serial consoles reset differently.Apr 12 13:48
cubezzzbut... what is console=hcv0 ?Apr 12 13:48
cubezzzI thought modprobe virtio_console would do something different but everything seems to be the same stillApr 12 13:49
oiaohmhcv0 is the deviceApr 12 13:49
cubezzzyes, it's mentioned in virtio_console.cApr 12 13:51
cubezzzbut I have no /dev/hcv0Apr 12 13:51
oiaohmcubezzz: fedora has better instructions.  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtioSerialApr 12 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Features/VirtioSerial - FedoraProject [ http://ur1.ca/h2agi ]Apr 12 13:53
oiaohmcubezzz: when you start the virtual instance you have to declare how many virtio consoles you will have.Apr 12 13:54
oiaohmcubezzz: if you have  declared none their will be none.Apr 12 13:54
oiaohmBasically virtio console is seperate to the vtcon0Apr 12 13:56
cubezzzoh this seems to be related to virtualizationApr 12 13:56
cubezzzI did an experiment switching from radeon to vesa and backApr 12 13:57
cubezzzit effected the text console, but didn't fix itApr 12 13:58
cubezzzI guess it doesn't really matter too much, I can just ssh in if I'm X or the text console messes upApr 12 13:59
cubezzzthe text console never really stops or resets as far as I can seeApr 12 13:59
msb_cubezzz: Have you tried typing (blindly, if you're not seeing an echo)      stty sane      ?Apr 12 14:02
cubezzzoh yeah I can still login and the screen changesApr 12 14:02
cubezzzI can't really see what I'm doing but I know I'm logged inApr 12 14:02
cubezzzsometimes it's all vertical barsApr 12 14:03
cubezzzit happens (rarely) when I run some old Loki gamesApr 12 14:03
oiaohmcubezzz: is your card a old ATI.Apr 12 14:03
cubezzzATI Radeon 9550 AGPApr 12 14:04
cubezzzI guess it's kind of oldApr 12 14:04
msb_THE LAMA /  / The one-l lama, / He's a priest. / The two-l llama, / He's a beast. / And I will bet / A silk pajama / There isn't any / Three-l lllama. / - Ogden NashApr 12 14:06
oiaohmcubezzz: I kinda suspected so.Apr 12 14:06
oiaohmcubezzz: dieing ATI radeon cards go down in the same creativity.Apr 12 14:06
oiaohmcubezzz: ati cards loss the means to draw text.Apr 12 14:07
oiaohmcubezzz: as their gpu starts dieing.Apr 12 14:07
cubezzzhuhApr 12 14:07
cubezzzit's been like this for yearsApr 12 14:08
cubezzzabout once or twice a month I lose the text consoleApr 12 14:09
oiaohmcubezzz: and you have had your ATI card overheated once right.Apr 12 14:09
cubezzzI bought it used around 2010 I thinkApr 12 14:09
cubezzzit's possibleApr 12 14:09
cubezzzis there any card you recommend that doesn't overheat that would work on this p3 AGP box?Apr 12 14:10
oiaohmcubezzz: I don't use second hand cards.Apr 12 14:11
oiaohmcubezzz: I don't know of any new AGPApr 12 14:11
cubezzzahApr 12 14:11
oiaohmcubezzz: switching from x11 to console and back sometimes can go south with older cards as well.Apr 12 14:12
oiaohmbut if that is the case if you have set up SAK that will cure a Linux kernel mess up.Apr 12 14:12
oiaohmcubezzz: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/SAK.txtApr 12 14:13
oiaohmbut if it the card itself SAK will not fix it.Apr 12 14:13
oiaohmAlso if it the card ssh login in and attempt to trigger resets will not work either.Apr 12 14:14
oiaohmcubezzz: the issue you describe match ATI card that has been overheated.Apr 12 14:14
cubezzzah I seeApr 12 14:14
MinceRgeekingsApr 12 14:14
cubezzzwell, that would explain it Apr 12 14:14
oiaohmcubezzz: mind you an old nvidia is more creative.Apr 12 14:15
oiaohmcubezzz: old nvidia that has been overheated starts reporting as a intel video card.Apr 12 14:15
cubezzzI have another old p3 that ran for over a year without messing up (switching from text to X and back)Apr 12 14:16
cubezzzbut that was using the vesa driver on openbsdApr 12 14:16
cubezzznever messed up the text console at leastApr 12 14:16
oiaohmcubezzz: if it dead ati  it will also mess up running openbsd.Apr 12 14:17
cubezzzoiaohm, this not dead thoughApr 12 14:17
cubezzzit'sApr 12 14:17
oiaohmcubezzz: half-deadApr 12 14:17
oiaohmcubezzz: ati cards pretend to be aliveApr 12 14:17
cubezzzX always works... only the text console messes upApr 12 14:17
oiaohmcubezzz: text console is allocated in the same ram in the video card all the time.Apr 12 14:18
cubezzzwell I suppose it's not 100% functionalApr 12 14:18
cubezzzbut I wouldn't say it's dead Apr 12 14:19
oiaohmcubezzz: there is a reason why I said dead.Apr 12 14:19
msb_cubezzz: It's old and had a stroke.Apr 12 14:19
oiaohmcubezzz: text console goes first.  X11 will follow.Apr 12 14:19
oiaohmmsb_: had a stroke and due for another one.Apr 12 14:20
msb_oiaohm: Thanks for the SAK page!  I've known about Alt-SysReq, but not SAK.Apr 12 14:20
oiaohmmsb_: alt-sysreq is very bad to use.Apr 12 14:22
oiaohmmsb_: but when desperate you use anything.Apr 12 14:23
cubezzzoiaohm, I will check back in 10 years :)Apr 12 14:23
cubezzzif it still works in 10 years then you'll need to revise your opinion :)Apr 12 14:23
msb_oiaohm: Any kind of rebooting is bad for me, because I have to set up the directories in about 60 konsoles/mcs in 20 virtual desktops.Apr 12 14:25
cubezzzI have video cards much older and they didn't mess up like that at allApr 12 14:25
oiaohmcubezzz: notice I said ati its a particular geneartion of atis.Apr 12 14:25
oiaohmcubezzz: the 9xxx stuff and the 8xxx stuff.Apr 12 14:26
oiaohmcubezzz: all suffer from overheating stuffing the mmu on the video card.Apr 12 14:26
cubezzzah well, you are probably right thenApr 12 14:26
oiaohmand once its started its progressive.Apr 12 14:26
cubezzzthe only question is how long it will continue to workApr 12 14:26
msb_Eventually all you can get from it is, "I had jello today."Apr 12 14:27
oiaohmNormally before X11 stops working on them the bios screens become unreadable.Apr 12 14:27
oiaohmcubezzz: yes yes dieing ati gets wrong.Apr 12 14:28
cubezzzoiaohm, have you seen this:Apr 12 14:28
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/openbsd-icewm-with-mwm.pngApr 12 14:28
cubezzzit's a shame about atiApr 12 14:29
cubezzzI used to think their engineering was really goodApr 12 14:29
oiaohmcubezzz: really there were.Apr 12 14:30
oiaohmcubezzz: just they got a little too close to limit in particular generations.Apr 12 14:30
oiaohmAnd if you never overheat them they would have lasted.Apr 12 14:30
msb_oiaohm: Why is alt-sysreq bad to use?Apr 12 14:30
cubezzzI doubt I worked this card too hardApr 12 14:30
cubezzzthe previous owner might haveApr 12 14:31
oiaohmmsb_: alt-sysreq fails to free up ram correctly when you trigger its sak.Apr 12 14:31
oiaohmcubezzz: that is the problem with ATI cards of those generations.Apr 12 14:31
oiaohmcubezzz: you need the full life history 1 overhead and they will die.Apr 12 14:31
oiaohmcubezzz: yes you now know why I don't touch second hand video cards.Apr 12 14:32
cubezzzoiaohm, I have ati vga wonders that still work :)Apr 12 14:32
cubezzzit's an interesting problem though, hard reset brings the text console backApr 12 14:33
cubezzzheck, there's still some S100 video cards that still workApr 12 14:34
cubezzzage is only one factorApr 12 14:34
msb_cubezzz: Have you tried "stty sane"  or   "Alt-SysReq R"Apr 12 14:34
cubezzzmsb_, I've tried everything yeahApr 12 14:34
cubezzzmy guess would be some piece of video memory is getting over-writtenApr 12 14:35
cubezzzsometimes I see text but it's very faintApr 12 14:35
cubezzzsometimes it's vertical barsApr 12 14:36
cubezzzsometimes the text console looks like a messed up X session :)Apr 12 14:36
oiaohmcubezzz: so far perfect description of dieing ati.Apr 12 14:37
cubezzzyou would think resetting the text console would be easy to doApr 12 14:37
oiaohmcubezzz: when an ati starts up it zeros it memory.Apr 12 14:37
oiaohmcubezzz: or thoese old ones did.Apr 12 14:37
oiaohmcubezzz: so unstable ram gets made functional for a little bit.Apr 12 14:38
oiaohmAnd that little bit is a very random value.Apr 12 14:38
oiaohmanything from 5 mins to 10 days.Apr 12 14:38
oiaohmcubezzz: thinking I leave computers running with text console only and no x11.Apr 12 14:39
oiaohmand running for months at a time.Apr 12 14:39
oiaohmsometimes years.Apr 12 14:39
cubezzzmy utility power doesn't seem good enough for years :-/Apr 12 14:39
cubezzzbut I've done 380 daysApr 12 14:39
cubezzzI have this Dell GX110 with some intel video chipsetApr 12 14:40
cubezzzit doesn't mess up... one year running and still fineApr 12 14:40
oiaohmcubezzz: my sad record is a lost server.Apr 12 14:40
oiaohmcubezzz: 6 years without rebooting.Apr 12 14:40
oiaohmcubezzz: kinda highly insecure by that point.Apr 12 14:41
cubezzzbut... I assume that you weren't switching from text to X and back?Apr 12 14:41
cubezzzalthough I guess that shouldn't matterApr 12 14:41
oiaohmcubezzz: it did not even have a video card.Apr 12 14:42
oiaohmserial console only.Apr 12 14:42
oiaohmcubezzz: I have some true server hardware.Apr 12 14:42
cubezzzany opinion on what would be the most durable video card?Apr 12 14:42
msb_When DRAM chips first came out -- 1024bits IIRC -- mfrs talked about taking care that the epoxy encapsulant didn't contain any radioactives that could emit alpha particles and flip bits.Apr 12 14:43
oiaohmNo video card and just a serial port would be the most durable.Apr 12 14:43
oiaohmmsb_: there is no such thing as a materials that are 100 percent not radioactive.Apr 12 14:44
cubezzzwhat I really want is a computer that always worksApr 12 14:44
msb_oiaohm: Sure, but they reduced it to a billion years MTBF or some such.Apr 12 14:45
cubezzzI have to say this old Dell has been pretty goodApr 12 14:45
cubezzzI'd settle for 100 years :)Apr 12 14:45
msb_Yes, but with 1024bits/chip they needed a lot of chips per machine.Apr 12 14:46
oiaohmcubezzz: http://www.coreboot.org/Serial_console  you are after solid.   Motherboard that supports coreboot without onboard video card.  Setup for serial remove video card.Apr 12 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coreboot.org | Serial console - corebootApr 12 14:48
oiaohmcubezzz: Yes I do this horible to servers.Apr 12 14:48
oiaohmcubezzz: it also removes a lot of tampering.Apr 12 14:48
cubezzzyes, for a server that's fineApr 12 14:49
cubezzzI'll definitely try that for the serverApr 12 14:49
cubezzzbut I also write openmotif stuffApr 12 14:49
cubezzzand run a few gamesApr 12 14:50
oiaohmcubezzz: its the old theory the least number of parts to screw up the better.Apr 12 14:50
cubezzzyes, coreboot is good, I use it sometimesApr 12 14:50
msb_But then you're left with reading a good book.Apr 12 14:50
oiaohmmsb_: there is another advantage to using serialApr 12 14:51
oiaohmserial data loggers.Apr 12 14:51
oiaohmto create a log the OS cannot delete.Apr 12 14:51
cubezzzoiaohm, you know I think I even have an EGA wonder that still worksApr 12 14:51
oiaohmcubezzz: I have an old s3 trio around here somehere and an old tnt2Apr 12 14:52
msb_Save that old stuff.  If we have a CME or GRB they may be the only computers left that work!Apr 12 14:53
oiaohmcubezzz: all the video cards I have since then I have killed.Apr 12 14:53
oiaohmcubezzz: 3d rendering for days at a time they did not like.Apr 12 14:54
oiaohm cubezzz I get about 4 to 5 years out a videocard.Apr 12 14:55
msb_When computers become conscious that will be a crime.Apr 12 14:56
cubezzzyeah I have an old Jaton AGP card that's been running 24/7 in the server for a long timeApr 12 14:58
cubezzzat least 10 yearsApr 12 14:58
oiaohmcubezzz: I guess no heavy lifting.Apr 12 14:58
oiaohmcubezzz: my video cards have to put up with blender and equal running flat stack.Apr 12 14:59
cubezzzI've never installed Linux with no graphics cardApr 12 15:00
cubezzzor to you install with a graphics card then remove it later?Apr 12 15:01
cubezzzs/to/do/Apr 12 15:01
cubezzzI mean, you wouldn't even be able to see the POSTApr 12 15:02
oiaohmYou can build Linux installers automatically to find serial ports.Apr 12 15:03
oiaohmcubezzz: post in lots of motherboards can be watched by a post card.Apr 12 15:04
oiaohmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POST_cardApr 12 15:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | POST card - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaApr 12 15:05
oiaohmcubezzz: its mostly install a video card to sort out the bios.Apr 12 15:05
msb_Hey, Linux wants to be free!  It wants to sing and dance!Apr 12 15:05
oiaohmcubezzz: lot of motherboards with stock bios don't boot without video card.Apr 12 15:06
cubezzzI'm sure the computer would run cooler with no video card Apr 12 15:06
oiaohmcubezzz: correctApr 12 15:07
cubezzzless ram usage tooApr 12 15:07
oiaohmcubezzz: kinda.Apr 12 15:07
oiaohmcubezzz: rememer you have lost the ram on the video card.Apr 12 15:07
cubezzzah, that's trueApr 12 15:07
msb_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3P3yYfliVoApr 12 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | South Park Music - i love to singa - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h2atr ]Apr 12 15:10
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3324Apr 12 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast CerealApr 12 15:28
*amarsh04 still runs a radeon 9200se video card in this machineApr 12 15:35
amarsh04back in a minute, new kernelApr 12 15:36
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DaemonFCGood morning. :)Apr 12 15:43
amarsh04hiApr 12 15:45
MinceRhayApr 12 15:45
DaemonFCHow's Hungaristan treating you today, MinceR? :)Apr 12 15:56
MinceRnot wellApr 12 15:59
Sosumihttp://www.gsmarena.com/european_samsung_galaxy_s5_is_also_regionlocked-news-8273.phpApr 12 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com | Samsung Galaxy S5 also region-locked, here are the details - GSMArena.com news [ http://ur1.ca/h2b7f ]Apr 12 16:19
Sosumithe s5 is a messApr 12 16:20
msb_Forced to consume goulash at gunpoint by communist thugs!Apr 12 16:20
Sosumidisjointed GUI and a meaningless update to s4Apr 12 16:20
msb_Causing stomach upset so he's always pootin !Apr 12 16:21
MinceRindeed, region locking is a messApr 12 16:22
schestowitz__http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/161294?rdfApr 12 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxsecurity.com | It may be ILLEGAL to run Heartbleed health checks IT lawyer - The Community's Center for Security [ http://ur1.ca/h2b7v ]Apr 12 16:22
MinceRmsb_: if you like hungary so much, why don't you move into it?Apr 12 16:22
Sosumimove to "U-hungry"?Apr 12 16:24
msb_MinceR: Get in line!  First I have to move to Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Vietnam...Apr 12 16:24
MinceRmsb_: get moving, thenApr 12 16:24
MinceRmsb_: there are so many nicely despotic states to choose from!Apr 12 16:24
schestowitz__http://xkcd.com/1354/Apr 12 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd.com | xkcd: Heartbleed ExplanationApr 12 16:25
schestowitz__so much of it in Linux sietsApr 12 16:25
schestowitz__even though the news is out and has been outApr 12 16:26
msb_I've added stuff to my 9/11 area.  Now four great videos plus links to my pages.  http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911Apr 12 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneApr 12 16:29
msb_None of those other despotic states has started a War of Terror involving the whole world, and murdered TWO MILLION PEOPLE in it already.Apr 12 16:30
MinceRsome of them have murdered a lot more than thatApr 12 16:31
msb_Not in the last 13 years.Apr 12 16:32
MinceRwell, nothing that happened before that matters, right?Apr 12 16:32
msb_In that case I'm gonna blame you for Vlad the Impaler.Apr 12 16:34
MinceRpersonally?Apr 12 16:34
msb_Of course.Apr 12 16:34
MinceRwell, i guess that doesn't take more mental gymnastics than the rest of your delusionsApr 12 16:34
msb_You're the one that brought the past into it, not me.Apr 12 16:35
MinceRoh, i didn't know the war of terror hasn't started yet.Apr 12 16:36
msb_parse errorApr 12 16:38
schestowitz__MS Perlow: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/heartbleeds-lesson-passwords-must-die/15793#ftag=RSSf468ffeApr 12 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Heartbleed's lesson: Passwords must die | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/h2bdt ]Apr 12 16:58
schestowitz__http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/cloud-computing/769631-citrix-top-5-dos-and-donts-when-moving-to-the-cloud/Apr 12 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Citrix: Top 5 Do's and Don’ts When Moving to the Cloud | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/h2bgj ]Apr 12 17:12
schestowitz__citrix boosted by LF nowApr 12 17:12
schestowitz__ Rachel King  the PRa agents:Apr 12 17:17
schestowitz__despite sales still going dfown she tries to make it look like XP is helping x86Apr 12 17:17
schestowitz__http://www.zdnet.com/end-of-windows-xp-support-slowing-pc-industry-bleed-says-gartner-7000028261/#ftag=RSSf468ffeApr 12 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | End of Windows XP support slowing PC industry bleed, says Gartner | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/h2bhv ]Apr 12 17:17
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3917063Apr 12 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: More #fud in #cbs #zdnet now expands what mostly affects servers to #android devices http://www.zdnet.com/android-fragmentation-turning-devices-into-a-toxic-hellstew-of-vulnerabilities-7000028342/#ftag=RSSf468ffe trolling as 'journalism'Apr 12 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Android fragmentation turning devices into a toxic hellstew of vulnerabilities | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/h2bi6 ]Apr 12 17:19
schestowitz__"Again, there's only one reason anyone even knows about Heartbleed."Apr 12 17:19
msb_MS Perlow: "Passwords must die".  He says we must use biometrics:  Fingerprints - What could go wrong there?  Voiceprint -- that sure couldn't be copied!  Retinal Scan -- The bad guys don't even have to gouge out your eye.  Just scan it with the same gadget that would be on every computer, and project the image onto an artificial eyeball.Apr 12 17:22
schestowitz__https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1964888_10203435668998052_1700271948_n.jpgApr 12 17:23
msb_Hah!  Microsoft has *always* been a toxic hellbrew.Apr 12 17:24
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MinceRm$ munchkins having no idea what they're talking about isn't exactly newApr 12 17:37
Sosumifingerprints are much better than beating passwords out of pplApr 12 17:58
Sosumijust grab a knife and cut the fingerApr 12 17:58
Sosumior a cigar cutter (remember my jokes about iphone 5s fingerprint sensor?)Apr 12 17:59
Sosumipasswords with an external authenticator work much betterApr 12 18:00
Sosumiala blizzard authenticatorApr 12 18:00
cubezzzdo what the banks do, logins accepted only from one computer and one ip addressApr 12 18:00
Sosumibut not everyone has a fixed IPApr 12 18:01
cubezzzmight be a bit tricky with... yeahApr 12 18:01
Sosumihttps://twitter.com/mkalinowskaa/status/455000469119983616Apr 12 18:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mkalinowskaa: Police in #Donetsk surrendered and joined the protesters #ukraine @RuptlyApr 12 18:03
SosumilolApr 12 18:03
Sosumithe whole ukraine deal has been a laughing stock, to me at leastApr 12 18:04
Sosumiwith the EU/US sponsored coup failingApr 12 18:04
cubezzzMicrosoft's got that TPM 2.0 thing, which kicks in on Jan 1, 2015Apr 12 18:05
Sosumiand now ukraine seeming to be falling apart and being absorbed by russiaApr 12 18:06
cubezzz"all computers must have TPM 2.0 to get windows 8.1"Apr 12 18:06
SosumiTPM is a module that you put on the boardApr 12 18:06
Sosumikewl stuff, but aside I actually wouldn't mind gazprom cutting the gas supply to europeApr 12 18:08
Sosumiand let those idiots up in the north, literally, freeze to dead :)Apr 12 18:09
Sosumi*deathApr 12 18:09
Sosumiand it isn't a required for anythingApr 12 18:09
Sosumimost boards don't even have a slot for itApr 12 18:09
Sosumihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_ModuleApr 12 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Trusted Platform Module - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/a0g3r ]Apr 12 18:11
Sosumi"Microsoft has announced that from January 1, 2015 all computers will have to be equipped with a TPM 2.0 module in order to pass the Windows 8.1 hardware certification."Apr 12 18:12
Sosumiaka a stickerApr 12 18:12
cubezzzmy computers are too old for win 8.1Apr 12 18:12
Sosumibut does it matter? nop, can still install itApr 12 18:12
cubezzzoh I seeApr 12 18:13
cubezzznot that I was thinking about actually installing windows 8.1 of courseApr 12 18:13
Sosumiand actually, does vista 8 matter at all?Apr 12 18:13
SosuminopApr 12 18:14
cubezzza customer might ask for itApr 12 18:14
Sosumithen, let him have itApr 12 18:14
Sosumisince he's the one paying anywaysApr 12 18:14
cubezzzbut so far no one I know is using itApr 12 18:14
Sosumibut it isn't a requirementApr 12 18:14
Sosumino board comes one eitherApr 12 18:15
Sosumithey have the slot and nothing moreApr 12 18:15
Sosumihttp://images.anandtech.com/doci/7902/GA-6PXSV3%20-%20Top.jpgApr 12 18:18
Sosumijust the slotApr 12 18:18
Sosumiat the bottomApr 12 18:18
Sosumibut no moduleApr 12 18:18
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/YnjTh01.pngApr 12 19:35
msb_People were really much more friendly and interesting when most people were smoking cannabis in the 1960s.  The whole culture was much better.Apr 12 19:45
cubezzzexcept for the computer part :)Apr 12 19:46
msb_Right -- there weren't any.Apr 12 19:46
cubezzzalso no unix in the 60's unless you count UNICUSApr 12 19:46
MinceRafaik violence rates were higher in the 1960sApr 12 19:47
cubezzzlots of computers in the 60Apr 12 19:47
cubezzz'sApr 12 19:47
cubezzzBurroughs B5500Apr 12 19:47
msb_I loved the idea of a computer designed for a high-level language.  I bought the manual for the B5500.Apr 12 19:48
cubezzzgrab your light pen and go :)Apr 12 19:48
msb_I built a lightpen for the LINC computer.Apr 12 19:48
cubezzzIBM 1130 was relatively cheapApr 12 19:48
msb_How cheap?Apr 12 19:50
cubezzzoh about $41,000 if you wanted a disk driveApr 12 19:51
msb_And those dollars were probably worth at least 5 of the current ones.Apr 12 19:52
cubezzzIBM 2310, stores 512,000 wordsApr 12 19:52
cubezzzPDP-8 would be cheaperApr 12 19:53
cubezzz$18,000Apr 12 19:53
msb_Anyhow, now we have computers, Linux, *and* cannabis.Apr 12 19:53
msb_People should be able to wake up and throw off the organized psychopaths.Apr 12 19:54
cubezzzif I could I'd time-warp back to the 60's for a day or soApr 12 19:54
cubezzzan interesting era for computersApr 12 19:54
msb_Well, we can do everything on a PC now that a B5500 or B6600 could do back then, but a lot faster and a lot cheaper.Apr 12 19:56
msb_Even though we have software pointers to the stack chain instead of hardware ones.Apr 12 19:56
msb_ALGOL-60 was a great leap forward.  I had an ALGOL60 license plate!Apr 12 19:57
cubezzzIBM 1130 could actually be put into the home without too much difficultyApr 12 19:57
MinceRif the home was large enough? :>Apr 12 19:58
cubezzzyou can get a 120V setupApr 12 19:58
cubezzzit was about the size of a large deskApr 12 19:58
MinceRicApr 12 19:58
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ibm-1130-with-2250-display.pngApr 12 20:00
msb_Does the babe come with it?Apr 12 20:01
MinceRthe babe has aged a lot since that picture was taken :>Apr 12 20:01
cubezzzwell if she was 20 in 1965... :)Apr 12 20:01
cubezzznext year will be the 50th anniversary of the 1130Apr 12 20:01
cubezzzthis is still my favourite 60's computer pic:Apr 12 20:12
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/ibm-1401.jpgApr 12 20:12
msb_Nice!Apr 12 20:14
msb_http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/pc_of_future.jpgApr 12 20:14
cubezzzhaApr 12 20:15
MinceRthe steering wheel is funnyApr 12 20:15
msb_http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/Amiga.jpgApr 12 20:15
cubezzzdoes that old fart know assembly language? :)Apr 12 20:15
MinceRmacs are pcsApr 12 20:16
cubezzzok, you asked for it...Apr 12 20:16
msb_The one in the Amiga pic *dreams* assembly language!Apr 12 20:16
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/cyberpunk-mondo-2000.jpgApr 12 20:17
MinceRlolApr 12 20:17
MinceRshould have used a real computerApr 12 20:17
cubezzzI still use an amiga sometimesApr 12 20:18
cubezzzit's not _that_ oldApr 12 20:18
msb_http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/20000/8000/800/28816/28816.strip.gifApr 12 20:39
msb_The cyberpunk pic reminded me of that one!Apr 12 20:39
msb_I saw it on somebody's cubicle wall many years ago, but never got a copy until now.  Found it by googling for   dilbert  duelApr 12 20:40
MinceR:)Apr 12 20:41
msb_http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/20000/8000/800/28817/28817.strip.gifApr 12 20:42
msb_More Techno-Bill!Apr 12 20:43
MinceR:DApr 12 20:43
cubezzzobviously one of the older dilberts :)Apr 12 20:43
MinceRindeedApr 12 20:43
XFaCEMinceR: http://falkvinge.net/2014/04/11/more-people-were-paid-to-exploit-heartbleed-for-the-nsa-than-to-fix-it/Apr 12 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-falkvinge.net | More People Were Paid To Exploit Heartbleed For The NSA Than Fix It - Falkvinge on Infopolicy [ http://ur1.ca/h2cot ]Apr 12 20:45
MinceRno surpriseApr 12 20:45
MinceRthe nsa has gone rogueApr 12 20:45
msb_http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/20000/8000/800/28815/28815.strip.gifApr 12 20:59
msb_http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/20000/8000/800/28814/28814.strip.gifApr 12 21:02
msb_http://www.joshreads.com/images/0412/i041219dilbert.jpgApr 12 21:05
MinceR:DApr 12 21:07
msb_https://www.dgrmm.net/dilbert-etch.jpgApr 12 21:10
MinceR:>Apr 12 21:11
msb_http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/100000/80000/9000/400/189414/189414.strip.zoom.gifApr 12 21:14
msb_Tech Support:  http://billmullins.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/image95.pngApr 12 21:40
DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1544456_215131252030247_1899866002313857661_n.jpgApr 12 21:51
DaemonFCNew bf. :)Apr 12 21:51
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_Goblinschestowitz, you there mate?Apr 12 22:27
schestowitz__0/Apr 12 22:27
_Goblin:) Sorry about last sat......Apr 12 22:27
_GoblinI was distracted from PC by the football....really sorry....Apr 12 22:28
schestowitz__how about tomorrow night?Apr 12 22:28
_Goblinlol....I was just typing that!Apr 12 22:28
_Goblinyes yes yes....tomorrow evening without doubtApr 12 22:28
_GoblinI've an easter egg hunt around mum and dads during the day but will be home around 1700Apr 12 22:29
_Goblin(Easter egg hunt for the kids not me - I hasten to add)Apr 12 22:29
schestowitz__can Amy handle that?Apr 12 22:29
schestowitz__she'd be under 2Apr 12 22:30
_Goblinlol....when chocolate is involved shes a master at finding eggsApr 12 22:32
_Goblinand shes not under 2Apr 12 22:32
_GoblinShame on you Roy......you're her godfather! :)Apr 12 22:33
_Goblin....Just made my first post to G+ for a while.......Apr 12 22:35
_Goblinshould really pay it more attention since Twitter is rather restrictive....Apr 12 22:36
schestowitz__[22:33] <_Goblin> Shame on you Roy......you're her godfather! :)Apr 12 22:53
schestowitz__Oh, oops, I count since the baprismApr 12 22:53
schestowitz__*baptismApr 12 22:53
_Goblin:)Apr 12 22:54
schestowitz__which I think was almost exactly 2 years ago, add 2 weeks...Apr 12 22:54
_GoblinI won't tell her!Apr 12 22:54
_Goblinnow that particular date, I can't remember!Apr 12 22:54
_Goblinchristening...Apr 12 22:54
_GoblinRoy the Godfather.....Apr 12 22:55
schestowitz__it was end of AprilApr 12 23:11
_Goblinschestowitz__, I meant to ask...how did that recording test sound from before? It came out very well my end.Apr 12 23:16
_GoblinI cleaned it up a bit and it sounded v.goodApr 12 23:17
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DaemonFChttp://games.slashdot.org/story/14/04/04/1818200/five-year-old-uncovers-xbox-one-login-flawApr 06 00:20
MinceRMicrosoft® Security™Apr 06 00:20
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Apr 06 04:00
DaemonFC"Firefox on a Crapple"Apr 06 04:00
DaemonFCI don't know what the point of that is. You can't pretend to have freedom when the software running the computer is undermining that from the minute you turn the machine on.Apr 06 04:00
DaemonFCApple doesn't really make computers. They make iTunes kiosks. In other words, toys for stupid people with too much money. The iThings are useless for general purpose computing, and the Macs are becoming more like that with every new version of OS X. Apr 06 04:00
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Sosumithey still haven't removed the terminalApr 06 09:03
Sosumibut it'll probably go away on the next release or so :)Apr 06 09:03
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DaemonFCThe Best Buy circular is out.Apr 06 10:00
DaemonFCThe trade in deal says it has to be a laptop running Windows XP.Apr 06 10:01
DaemonFCThe news articles just said "Windows XP PC".Apr 06 10:01
DaemonFCI might call the store and ask if desktop PCs qualify.Apr 06 10:01
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MinceRtheir terminal always suckedApr 06 12:15
MinceRgeekingsApr 06 12:19
Sosumiit's basically a copy past from bsdApr 06 12:51
Sosumi*pasteApr 06 12:51
MinceRyet pageup/pagedown is broken, for exampleApr 06 13:07
MinceRalso, i wonder how bsd used the osx windowing systemApr 06 13:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CyanogenMod reveals new branding thatApr 06 13:12
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Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/not-dead-yet-dutch-british-governments-pay-to-keep-windows-xp-alive/Apr 06 14:03
SosumiNot dead yet: Dutch, British governments pay to keep Windows XP aliveApr 06 14:03
cubezzzbsd was first with the window managersApr 06 14:11
cubezzz4.3bsd had X, Xqvss, Xqdss, Xsun along with xwm, uwm, and xnwmApr 06 14:17
cubezzzearliest versions ran on DEC VS100 displaysApr 06 14:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/452805008728158209Apr 06 14:50
cubezzzI wrote a simple script if anyone wants to experiment with Xnest and different window managers:Apr 06 15:01
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/xnest-mwm.shApr 06 15:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/candtalan/status/452812128257204225Apr 06 15:27
schestowitzcubezzz: publish it in some relevant siteApr 06 15:27
schestowitzit has no searchable info associated with itApr 06 15:28
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sebsebsebhi MinceR Sosumi XFaCE schestowitzApr 06 15:49
MinceRhayApr 06 15:49
sebsebsebMinceR: good and bad newsApr 06 15:49
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schestowitzhi, what's up?Apr 06 16:04
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3882651Apr 06 16:05
schestowitzhm... bot droppedApr 06 16:05
sebsebsebschestowitz: my Mum is finally going to let me  switch her over to LInuxApr 06 16:06
sebsebsebsince the XP end of lifeApr 06 16:06
sebsebsebwell once she's backed up and yeahApr 06 16:06
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sebsebsebschestowitz: old lap top from 2005 or soApr 06 16:06
schestowitzhm... bot droppedApr 06 16:06
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3882651Apr 06 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/64746Apr 06 16:06
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schestowitzsebsebseb: that's not so old a laptopApr 06 16:06
schestowitzI have one from 1999, haven't booted it since 2011Apr 06 16:07
schestowitzHDD issuesApr 06 16:07
sebsebsebschestowitz: I got extenral CD/DVD  drive issuesApr 06 16:09
sebsebsebI asusme it'sm eant to be able to burn CD's/DVD's as well, butApr 06 16:10
sebsebsebthe one I bought for my netbook two years or so ago this isApr 06 16:10
sebsebseb,but it's  getting about half way or so, an then it stops,  and it's like the discs are blank still.  or  it puts a few fles on the discs and that's itApr 06 16:10
MinceRhttp://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-03-18/gm-recall-does-the-government-bailout-protect-it-from-liabilityApr 06 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessweek.com | GM Recall: Does the Government Bailout Protect It From Liability? - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/h08jf ]Apr 06 16:27
MinceRwow.Apr 06 16:27
MinceRhttp://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140331/BIZ/303310041/Apr 06 16:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesApr 06 17:20
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3875025Apr 06 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Robolinux 7.4.2 Distro Can Keep Windows XP Running Inside Forever Without Viruses or Malware http://news.softpedia.com/news/Robolinux-7-4-2-Distro-Can-Keep-Windows-XP-Running-Inside-without-Viruses-or-Malware-435915.shtml #gnu #linux #winxpApr 06 18:27
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schestowitz__"Apr 06 18:27
schestowitz__Good to know about a new Friendica pod. Although I already have an account there, I know just a little about their work. One thing that makes me happy is the interoperability between Friendica and Diaspora networks. For me it sounds like a beginning of a real democratic space for the users, where they can choose any pod from any network to store their own accounts based on their preferences.Apr 06 18:27
schestowitz__The federation here is working fine, and since the start of this new pod in Brazil, I have had no federation issues. It seems like the Diaspora* code is becoming stronger and more reliable on each release.Apr 06 18:27
schestowitz__"Apr 06 18:27
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schestowitz__nonsense of the day: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathansalembaskin/2014/04/05/microsoft-should-build-on-its-past-not-ignore-it/Apr 06 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Microsoft Should Build On Its Past, Not Ignore It - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/h0gmv ]Apr 06 18:56
schestowitz__warning: ForbesApr 06 18:56
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Sosumisebsebseb, just create a bootable usb stickApr 06 19:01
Sosumiand install it from thereApr 06 19:01
SosumiI also, don't even understand the reason ppl bother with optical media anymoreApr 06 19:02
sebsebsebSosumi: I get isues with dd and usb'sApr 06 19:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Wins Software Vendor of the Year atApr 06 19:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Channel Middle East Awards 2014Apr 06 19:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tux Machines Turns 10 in a Couple of MonthsApr 06 19:21
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/p/3883444Apr 06 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #UK voted strongl...Apr 06 19:40
schestowitz__"Apr 06 19:43
schestowitz__Yes but I would still stipulate that the state is the actual force ie people making the real threats against real education. For example say a school starts using Ubuntu for their primary OS. This may upset good ol' Bill and he may bribe (donate) a politician into drafting a law reversing this. It is the state that tells the teacher do this or be punished. Behind every decree of the state there is a gun.Apr 06 19:43
schestowitz__I would even go so far as to say that it is the state that artificially sustains the economic system that built Bill Gates to what he is now.Apr 06 19:43
schestowitz__"Apr 06 19:43
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3878273Apr 06 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Attitudes https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10153032_624833737604996_65496511_n.jpgApr 06 19:43
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3883475Apr 06 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #uprisings in #ukraine, 6th April 2014, #antifascist and #pro #russian #marches in #odessa, #zaporoje, #donetsk, #kharkov and #lugansk.Apr 06 19:45
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schestowitz__"obviously, Russia doesn't want to let Ukraine to slip from their fingers. in that case, Ukraine will go towards middle ages together with Russia. I understand why Ukrainians don't want that. Russia should've become a country whichc doesn't have to force others to join union with them, instead of using military power, or power of money, or puppet governors like Yanukovich."Apr 06 19:45
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3883302Apr 06 20:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rabble.ca | R.I.P. Windows XP 2001-2014. What can you do now? | rabble.ca [ http://ur1.ca/h0hl9 ]Apr 06 20:00
schestowitz__"For similar experience - switch to Linux Mint Debian Edition MATE"Apr 06 20:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Acquia’s Dries Buytaert: It’s open-sourceApr 06 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 software that’ll eat the worldApr 06 20:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five Models For Open Source RevenueApr 06 20:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny Core 5.3 RC2 Is Probably the SmallestApr 06 20:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Acquia’s Dries Buytaert: It’s open-source software that’ll eat the world | Tux MachinesApr 06 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Five Models For Open Source Revenue | Tux MachinesApr 06 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny Core 5.3 RC2 Is Probably the Smallest Linux Distro Around | Tux MachinesApr 06 20:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NVIDIA Fermi/Kepler GPUs Are The Best Bet ForApr 06 21:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 14.04 Nouveau http://t.co/dppSKCPFwwApr 06 21:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Steam Hardware Survey for March Shows SmallApr 06 21:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Decline for Linux http://t.co/mVkdW7GLQGApr 06 21:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Hardware Survey for March Shows Small Decline for Linux | Tux MachinesApr 06 21:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Building for Linux, the smart wayApr 06 21:29
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MinceRthe braindead savages of hungary have signed up for 4 more years of destruction >> http://www.politics.hu/20140406/2014-hungarian-national-election-liveblog-april-6/Apr 06 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.politics.hu | 2014 Hungarian national election liveblog: April 6 | Politics.hu [ http://ur1.ca/h0k7p ]Apr 06 23:21
DaemonFCI called Best Buy about that Windows XP for $100 store credit deal.Apr 06 23:21
DaemonFCIt turns out that the offer is only valid for laptops that you want to trade in.Apr 06 23:21
DaemonFCThey won't give you anything for a Windows XP desktop.Apr 06 23:22
MinceRpftApr 06 23:24
MinceRfalse advertising?Apr 06 23:24
sebsebsebDaemonFC: then what they sell on the ap tops or someting?Apr 06 23:26
sebsebseblapApr 06 23:26
DaemonFCMinceR: The news articles wrote the story before the ad came out.Apr 06 23:49
DaemonFCThe actual ad says "laptops".Apr 06 23:49
MinceRicApr 06 23:49
DaemonFCsebsebseb: You could use the credit for any computer Best Buy sells, including Chromebooks.Apr 06 23:49
DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/food/going-green-more-shopping-whole-foods-and-driving-priusApr 06 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org | Going 'Green' Is More Than Shopping at Whole Foods and Driving a Prius | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/h0klo ]Apr 06 23:57
DaemonFCI wouldn't shop at Whole Foods. The CEO is a crazy Ayn Rand worshiping Rand Paul style "Libertarian".Apr 06 23:57
DaemonFCHe's constantly attacked the requirements of the Affordable Care Act, because Whole Foods has a health insurance plan that's more like Walmart's. A $3,500 deductible, annual caps, and no mental health coverage at all.Apr 06 23:57
DaemonFCWhole Foods store security in some states carries handguns. What are they planning to do? Shoot a person who is hungry and stealing food?Apr 06 23:57
DaemonFCEven if they haven't shot anyone yet, and although I am not in a position where I would need to steal food, I don't like the idea that some armed private gestapo is watching me shop.Apr 06 23:57
MinceRwell, if they're dead, they won't be hungry ever again ;)Apr 07 00:03
MinceRgnApr 07 00:06
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DaemonFCMinceR: Alternet is bugging me.Apr 07 01:28
DaemonFCThey have a Javascript that seems to be intended to disable Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V to make it harder to copy and paste from their articles.Apr 07 01:28
DaemonFCbut it disables every hotkey combination, including  Ctrl+T for a new tab.Apr 07 01:29
DaemonFCIn the mean time, you can still select text with the mouse, right click, and click "copy".Apr 07 01:29
DaemonFChttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/04/06/1322236/not-just-apple-gnutls-bug-means-security-flaw-for-major-linux-distrosApr 07 01:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Not Just Apple: GnuTLS Bug Means Security Flaw For Major Linux Distros - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/h0l6e ]Apr 07 01:30
DaemonFCSlashdot just posted an inaccurate account of the gnutls bug that was patched more than a month ago.Apr 07 01:30
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/DOCSIS-Cable-Modem-Router-N450-100NAS/dp/B00HC0ZDOEApr 07 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: N450 WiFi DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem Router (N450-100NAS): Computers & Accessories [ http://ur1.ca/h0lm8 ]Apr 07 02:55
DaemonFCI decided to buy one of these. It's $100 up front, but then I can return my modem to Comcast and quit paying to rent it.Apr 07 02:55
DaemonFCThen my internet bill should be down to $20 a month. :)Apr 07 02:55
DaemonFCI've heard that Comcast won't give you a great deal on your internet package if you own your own equipment.Apr 07 03:32
DaemonFCSo, I got the 12 months at $19.99 locked in, and then bought my own equipment.Apr 07 03:32
DaemonFCMy AAA Sprint discount kicked in this month. It brought my bill down from $99 to $96. :)Apr 07 03:54
DaemonFCI've noticed lately, that Amazon says your order is over $35 and gets free super saver shipping, and then tried to default to "standard shipping" instead.Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFCIn the case of my modem, the estimated delivery date with "standard shipping" was April 10. With super saver, the estimated delivery date is the 11th (my birthday!).Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFCSo, 1 day sooner was going to cost an additional $9.65? Pass.Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFCThey've tripped me up on that a couple of times before, where I was sure that I selected super saver, but my invoice billed me for standard.Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFCI had to go in, cancel the order, and redo it with super saver.Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFCNot cool, Amazon. Not cool!Apr 07 04:47
DaemonFC http://adobochronicles.com/2014/03/31/american-psychiatric-association-makes-it-official-selfie-a-mental-disorder/ Apr 07 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adobochronicles.com | AMERICAN PSYCHIATRIC ASSOCIATION MAKES IT OFFICIAL: ‘SELFIE’ A MENTAL DISORDER | The Adobo Chronicles [ http://ur1.ca/h0mhy ]Apr 07 05:13
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DaemonFCmsb_: I'm finding that going organic on some things isn't that much more expensive.Apr 07 06:26
DaemonFCBananas and coffee that are organic cost about the same as their non-organic counterparts.Apr 07 06:26
msb_DaemonFC: Hi!  Organic is great, especially if it's not sprayed with sulfuryl fluoride.Apr 07 06:32
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DaemonFCI'm a bit nervous about going with a Netgear cable gateway.Apr 07 06:36
DaemonFCI had one of their ADSL gateways and it was a bit flaky.Apr 07 06:36
DaemonFCBut, they're soooooooo much cheaper than Motorola...Apr 07 06:37
DaemonFCWe're talking $99 vs $139.Apr 07 06:37
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DaemonFCComcast says that this is an approved device that supports DOCSIS 3 and ipv6 on their network, and it has had level 1 certification.Apr 07 06:38
msb_I was having cable outages with comcrap until I insisted they give me a DOCSIS 3 modem.Apr 07 06:38
DaemonFCWhat really pissed me off is that they pushed an unwanted firmware update to my rented gateway that lets other Comcast customers log in without my permission and use my cable internet connection.Apr 07 06:38
DaemonFCYeah, I was the one that recommended that.Apr 07 06:39
DaemonFC:)Apr 07 06:39
msb_Thanks!Apr 07 06:39
DaemonFCDOCSIS 3 is much better. Even if your service level is the cheapest they have and is supported by DOCSIS 2....Apr 07 06:39
msb_How can others log in if theyApr 07 06:39
msb_'re not connected to it.Apr 07 06:39
msb_?Apr 07 06:39
DaemonFCIt creates a second wifi network called "COMCAST-GUEST".Apr 07 06:40
DaemonFCand it lets anyone log in with their comcast email address and password and be a parasite on your connection.Apr 07 06:40
DaemonFCYou're still only provisioned whatever speed level you subscribe to, but it lets them leech off of it.Apr 07 06:41
msb_Oh.  Mine doesn't have wifi and I don't use it anyhow.Apr 07 06:41
DaemonFCSo everything you're doing could slow to a halt.Apr 07 06:41
DaemonFCYeah, if it's just a modem, they can't do that.Apr 07 06:41
DaemonFCThey also can't do that if you own your equipment.Apr 07 06:41
msb_I just connect with ethernet.Apr 07 06:41
DaemonFCI can't do that.Apr 07 06:42
DaemonFCWell, I do with my desktop PC.Apr 07 06:42
msb_Some people think the wifi RF is intense enough to be dangerous -- cancer, etc.Apr 07 06:42
DaemonFCIt isn't possible to do that with my phone and it wouldn't be practical to do that with a laptop.Apr 07 06:42
DaemonFCI don't believe that it is.Apr 07 06:42
DaemonFCOne thing that I did notice about wifi routers is that the default settings tend to degrade performance.Apr 07 06:43
DaemonFCIf you don't have any wireless b or g devices, you should set it to "n" only.Apr 07 06:43
DaemonFCThat also gives you a small bit of extra security. Since nothing you use is wireless b or g, that would mean that anyone attempting to connect using those is not you.Apr 07 06:44
DaemonFC:)Apr 07 06:44
msb_Did you ever call them up and tell them it wouldn't let you download a Linux distro on bittorrent?Apr 07 06:44
DaemonFCOh, it does.Apr 07 06:44
DaemonFCThey don't seem to degrade bittorrent traffic anymore.Apr 07 06:44
msb_Oh, good!Apr 07 06:45
DaemonFCThey plan to start enforcing their caps at some point though.Apr 07 06:45
DaemonFCAt that point, there won't be much of a point in subscribing to their 25 or 50 Mbps tiers.Apr 07 06:45
msb_The magic word is YIFY!Apr 07 06:45
DaemonFCIt jsut means you'll reach your cap faster and start getting hammered with overage fees.Apr 07 06:45
DaemonFCTheir Comcast 100 tier will double your cap to 600 GB before you start paying more.Apr 07 06:46
DaemonFCEverything lower than that gets 300 or maybe 350, they haven't decided yet.Apr 07 06:46
DaemonFCThey seem to be experimenting in different markets.Apr 07 06:46
DaemonFCmsb_: Is you use less than 5 GB, they'll knock $5 a month off your internet bill. :PApr 07 06:47
msb_You can get movies and TV in x264 at half the size of xvids.Apr 07 06:47
DaemonFCIf you own your modem and keep getting those $19.99 a month promos, that means you could get cable internet for $14.99 a month.Apr 07 06:47
DaemonFCI'd never trade 300 GB for 5 GB to save $5.Apr 07 06:47
DaemonFCThat would just be stupid.Apr 07 06:47
DaemonFCyeah, VP9 and x265 (is that what they call it?) say they'll halve it again.Apr 07 06:48
DaemonFCFull HD movie rips could be as small as 400-500 MB.Apr 07 06:48
msb_720p is plenty for me.Apr 07 06:49
msb_I just watch on my computer screen.Apr 07 06:49
DaemonFCI got rid of flash and I use and ad blocking plugin to keep from downloading that crap.Apr 07 06:49
msb_Those are about 700MB.Apr 07 06:49
DaemonFCIf you do a lot of web browsing, then over the course of the month, ads and tacking scripts and all that crap could be as much as 2-3 GB.Apr 07 06:49
msb_Not enough to worry about.  And there's a lot of good stuff on Youtube, which can now be downloaded great with youtube-dl.Apr 07 06:50
DaemonFCLots of sites are starting to use paywalls. That doesn't affect me too often thanks to Google's cache and setting Firefox to not allow cookies on those sites and to dump all cookies at the end of a session.Apr 07 06:50
DaemonFC90% of those paywalls are just a cookie that records how many articles you've looked at and tells you to pay up eventually.Apr 07 06:51
msb_Very few alternative news sites insist on being paid.  Apr 07 06:53
msb_Anyhow, if you select x264 files, 480p or 720p, 10GB/day is more than enough.Apr 07 06:55
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msb_For me, at least.  There are only about 10 TV shows that I watch.Apr 07 06:56
msb_Suits, Good Wife, Elementary, Grey's Anatomy...Apr 07 06:58
msb_Although the last ep of GA had them all getting a severe flu and none of them even mentioned Vitamin C.  Apparently it's censored, like 9/11 truth.Apr 07 06:59
msb_I record the Cartoon Network Adult Swim anime's from actual cable TV with a TV card.  My old 'puter can convert NTSC to xvid in realtime -- barely.Apr 07 07:02
msb_I like the cat character in Space Dandy.Apr 07 07:05
DaemonFCBetween the deal I worked out with Comcast and getting rid of their modem, my bill will go down from $62.51 a month to $21.39 a month.Apr 07 07:16
DaemonFCThat's with taxes.Apr 07 07:16
DaemonFCI think I can be patient and deal with 3 Mbps...Apr 07 07:17
DaemonFCI've made do with less.Apr 07 07:17
DaemonFCUp until 2006, I was still using 768k DSL.Apr 07 07:17
DaemonFCmsb_: I don't know if this gateway is on sale or what.Apr 07 07:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Midori 0.5.8 Browser Pulls In New WebKit2 CodeApr 07 07:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Midori 0.5.8 Browser Pulls In New WebKit2 Code | Tux MachinesApr 07 07:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nouveau Becomes Friendly Towards Non-Root XApr 07 07:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nouveau Becomes Friendly Towards Non-Root X Server | Tux MachinesApr 07 07:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     iPhone becomes victim of Android’s success,Apr 07 07:19
TweetTuxMachines                 makes Apple worry http://t.co/f3IDDDi9MRApr 07 07:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | iPhone becomes victim of Android’s success, makes Apple worry | Tux MachinesApr 07 07:19
DaemonFCAmazon has them for $99.99. Newegg has them for $119.99, and Best Buy has them for $149.99Apr 07 07:21
DaemonFCI get 3% back of whatever I spend on Amazon because I have their credit card.Apr 07 07:21
DaemonFChttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Technicolor-TC8305C-DOCSIS-3-0-Wireless-Gateway-Cable-Modem-GREAT-Condition/131160625963Apr 07 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebay.com | Technicolor TC8305C DOCSIS 3 0 Wireless Gateway Cable Modem Great Condition | eBay [ http://ur1.ca/h0n0v ]Apr 07 07:24
DaemonFCI'd be REAL careful about buying anything on ebay that says "XFINITY" (Comcast) on it.Apr 07 07:24
DaemonFCWhen you don't return their equipment, they bill you an outrageous amount for it, and then you technically own it.Apr 07 07:25
DaemonFCIt won't work on anyone else's cable network though.Apr 07 07:25
DaemonFCThey only used to charge $150, but it's like $500 now.Apr 07 07:26
msb_DaemonFC: You are an amazing bargain hunter!Apr 07 07:26
DaemonFCThey noticed that people were calling them up and canceling, paying the fee for not returning the modem, and then subscribing to Comcast again immediately.Apr 07 07:26
DaemonFC:)Apr 07 07:26
DaemonFCThen they owned the modem and never had to make another rental payment on it.Apr 07 07:27
DaemonFCmsb_: I was going to buy that Chromebook at Best Buy, and then it turned out that only Windows XP laptops could be traded in.Apr 07 07:27
DaemonFCI have several old desktops in the closet that run XP, so I planned to pick the crappiest one and turn it in for the store credit.Apr 07 07:27
DaemonFC:(Apr 07 07:27
msb_Can you run real Linux on a chromebook?Apr 07 07:28
DaemonFCYou sure can. :)Apr 07 07:28
DaemonFCThere are instructions on linux.com for installing Ubuntu to the SSD of an Acer C720 and wiping out Chrome OS.Apr 07 07:29
DaemonFCBut you probably don't want to do that.Apr 07 07:29
DaemonFCWhat you *could* do is use external storage.Apr 07 07:29
DaemonFCGet a 64 or 128 GB USB 3.0 flash drive and make a Fedora image on it with persistent storage.Apr 07 07:30
DaemonFCThen plug it into the Chromebook's USB 3.0 port.Apr 07 07:30
DaemonFCThen you could switch between Fedora and Chrome OS by rebooting.Apr 07 07:30
DaemonFCmsb_: You don't want to get the Samsung Chromebook with the arm processor in it if you want to run a regular GNU/Linux distribution.Apr 07 07:31
DaemonFCThere's an unofficial Fedora image for the Samsung Chromebook, but it hasn't been updated since Fedora 18 iirc.Apr 07 07:31
DaemonFC2 seconds agoApr 07 07:36
DaemonFCNo. Technically, Windows XP won't become "less secure" than it was before when it goes out of support. All of the security problems that will be discovered after April 8th were there before April 8th. Many of them will have been there since 2001, or even before that (since many Windows vulnerabilities go back well into the 1990s).Apr 07 07:36
DaemonFCTavis Ormandy found a problem with the NTVDM (NT Virtual DOS Machine) that dated back to the original Windows NT from 1993, which was still present in Windows 7. He privately informed Microsoft of it. Months passed, and they still hadn't fixed it, so he publicly reported it along with demonstration exploit code. Only then did Microsoft fix it. Then they said that HE was the one being irresponsible.Apr 07 07:36
DaemonFCI find it hysterical that people suddenly think that Windows XP is too dangerous to use. It was always too dangerous to use. 13 years and 5,000+ security patches later, and it's STILL dangerous.Apr 07 07:36
DaemonFCWhat does that say about how bad the original XP was?Apr 07 07:36
msb_It probably has fluoride in it to rot your brain.Apr 07 07:39
msb_Virtual software fluoride.Apr 07 07:39
msb_DaemonFC: Actually it does.  Fluoridated water destroys the pineal gland, which otherwise produces dimethyltryptamine, a psychedelic.  Thanks to the US govt, everyone in this country has their pineal gland destroyed, so they live in a reality that's much less fun.Apr 07 07:45
msb_DaemonFC: Likewise, every version of MS Windows lacks the software freedom and the 20 desktops you can get with Linux, so the MS computer experience is also very limited, and people don't know any better.Apr 07 07:46
msb_DaemonFC: MS and fluoride are both techniques of mind-control, which enable the richest 1% to grab 99% of the wealth, without the other 99% of the population trying to do anything about it.Apr 07 07:49
msb_Good movie --  Contagion 2011 - brain examination: The sulci are obliterated.  Let's look at the base. Oh my god. You want me to take a sample? I want you to move away from the table. Should I call someone? Call everyone.  Apr 07 08:15
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MinceR022816 < DaemonFC> MinceR: Alternet is bugging me.Apr 07 08:37
MinceRdisabling javascript might helpApr 07 08:37
MinceRgeekingsApr 07 09:27
DaemonFCDoes 4 GB of RAM really help out Chrome OS much?Apr 07 09:32
DaemonFCI noticed that a few Chromebooks have 4 GB instead of 2.Apr 07 09:33
MinceRi suspect it does, as the web is incredibly bloatedApr 07 09:33
MinceRand will keep getting more soApr 07 09:34
MinceRi'm thinking of switching to a really lightweight browser, adding a few features (such as warning me somehow about animated gifs if the browser doesn't support them)Apr 07 09:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/hHVqhAPcvqApr 07 09:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Google Chrome 35 Lands with Small Fixes forApr 07 09:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux, Windows, and Mac OS XApr 07 09:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Google Chrome 35 Lands with Small Fixes for Linux, Windows, and Mac OS X | Tux MachinesApr 07 09:57
DaemonFCMinceR: I just really don't like this desktop system very much.Apr 07 09:59
DaemonFCIt takes up a ton of space, it's loud, it's unsightly, there's wires everywhere.Apr 07 09:59
DaemonFCI'm really thinking about shoving it onto Craigslist and replacing it with an Acer C720 Chromebook.Apr 07 09:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/5R4TcVkJgSApr 07 10:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesApr 07 10:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/dzr8Jbj0qdApr 07 10:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     F2FS File-System Gains Large Directory Support,Apr 07 10:11
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schestowitz__> Champagne corks probably were flying in Redmond.  Elsewhere too, becauseApr 07 12:33
schestowitz__> now in America people can get fired for how they vote.  Land of the freeApr 07 12:33
schestowitz__> and all that.  The fallout from this, if it grows, could be as bad asApr 07 12:33
schestowitz__> when Bush was appointed in the coup in 2000.Apr 07 12:33
schestowitz__In today's article about MS control of the media I showed a potential role of MS mole.Apr 07 12:33
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/marcusthetechie/status/453133598120361985Apr 07 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marcusthetechie: @schestowitz nods well they could always upgrade to the next version #vistaApr 07 12:39
cubezzzwell some folks say that 4.3BSD was actually the most important OS ever writtenApr 07 12:42
MinceRwhy?Apr 07 12:43
cubezzzit was the biggest undergirder of the internetApr 07 12:44
cubezzzeveryone used the bsd tcp/ip stackApr 07 12:44
cubezzzit was open source before Linux and before MinixApr 07 12:46
MinceRicApr 07 12:46
cubezzzDARPA looked at BBN's implementation of TCP/IP and BSD's implemenation and decided that the BSD version was superioerApr 07 12:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/hHVqhAPcvqApr 07 12:54
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TweetTuxMachines @iArthurCDN     Apr 07 12:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Android good enough to be a laptop OS?Apr 07 12:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesApr 07 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Android good enough to be a laptop OS? | Tux MachinesApr 07 12:54
DaemonFCschestowitz__: That's why you don't talk about who you voted for at work.Apr 07 13:00
cubezzzunix v7 is also very important and worthy of study:Apr 07 13:00
cubezzzv7 introduced stdio, bourne shell, awk, lex, yacc, lint, sed, m4 and makeApr 07 13:00
cubezzznot to mention pcc :)Apr 07 13:00
MinceRschestowitz__: what is that referring to?Apr 07 13:01
Sosumikind of shamefulApr 07 13:59
Sosumithat new linksys router that was announced earlier this yearApr 07 14:00
Sosumithat one that they said they'd release the firmware sdkApr 07 14:00
Sosumiis nowhere to be foundApr 07 14:00
cubezzzMinceR, can you access techrights.org?Apr 07 14:01
Sosumiwell, neither the router nor the sdk :(Apr 07 14:01
cubezzzah, there it goesApr 07 14:01
Sosumiand I assume they'd at least put the sdk out in advance and specs before launching the actual pieceApr 07 14:02
Sosumibut no; so dumb...Apr 07 14:03
cubezzzI thought the WRT54GL was the router of choice for open source folksApr 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Windows XP Dies Tomorrow, Ubuntu 14.04 LTSApr 07 14:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows XP Dies Tomorrow, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Launches Next Week | Tux MachinesApr 07 14:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft XP users can turn to Linux asApr 07 14:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft XP users can turn to Linux as alternative | Tux MachinesApr 07 14:06
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cubezzzoh well, if the XP users all dump their PCs and buy new ones (which is obviously what Microsoft want) that's all the more cheap hardware for usApr 07 14:15
abeNd-orgyea, i have outfitted the rural libraries around here with discarded optiplex755, might be out of warranty, but they were free donations, core2duo, take up to 8gb ram & dirt cheap licensing through techsoup.org (there is still no really usable patron management system for linux workstations)Apr 07 14:18
cubezzzI'm still running Optiplex GX110 :)Apr 07 14:19
Sosumithe new one is the wrt1900acApr 07 14:19
abeNd-orggx110? woof, the beige rounded case?Apr 07 14:20
cubezzzit's a slimline :)Apr 07 14:20
abeNd-orgim at the point though where i am a hardware snob even for donations, if it isnt core2duo & capable of 8gb ram, i dont want to have to bother with it. Apr 07 14:21
cubezzzif someone donated you a microvax you'd turn it down? :)Apr 07 14:21
abeNd-orglets just say most of the stuff individuals try to donate are broken bubble jet printers & stuff that would make the gx110 look new, a microvax isnt going to come down the lineApr 07 14:23
cubezzzah wellApr 07 14:23
abeNd-orgnow customers of mine getting rid of old hardware however are more than happy to donate to the rural libraries around ereApr 07 14:23
abeNd-org^hereApr 07 14:23
cubezzzI wouldn't turn down a working 486Apr 07 14:24
cubezzzI should really fix that old IBM Apr 07 14:24
cubezzzit's not high on the priority list though :)Apr 07 14:25
abeNd-orgyea, but im also concerned about standardized parts across the "fleet" that i support probonoApr 07 14:25
abeNd-orgif everything is a 755, which is pretty much is right now, then that makes my life easierApr 07 14:26
abeNd-orgonly thing i wish i could get is someone to donate a boatload of 64gb SSD :P extend the life of those 755 even furtherApr 07 14:26
cubezzzI like the slot 1 era, I got a bunch of thoseApr 07 14:26
MinceRcubezzz: i canApr 07 14:29
abeNd-orgif i get old stuff ill ship it to you, if you pay for shipping :PApr 07 14:29
cubezzzabeNd-org, where are you?Apr 07 14:29
abeNd-orgDFWApr 07 14:29
cubezzzTexas?Apr 07 14:30
abeNd-orgyesApr 07 14:30
abeNd-orgyou?Apr 07 14:31
cubezzzI'm close to Toronto :)Apr 07 14:31
abeNd-orghah that will be 'spensive shippingApr 07 14:32
cubezzzlet me know if you get a c64 though :)Apr 07 14:32
cubezzzactually you could make a few $$$ on ebay with thoseApr 07 14:34
abeNd-orgyea, ive got a few of those 755 with only 1gb ram, i need to sell some stuff to make up the $ to outfit them with 8gb ramApr 07 14:34
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Sosumihttps://twitter.com/DrMarcusP/status/453131208579633152Apr 07 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrMarcusP: An example of what I mean about Western ignorance of Ukraine: Look where the BBC have placed #Donetsk and #Lugansk: http://t.co/NI5ZfELcCkApr 07 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DrMarcusP: An example of what I mean about Western ignorance of Ukraine: Look where the BBC have placed #Donetsk and #Lugansk: http://t.co/NI5ZfELcCkApr 07 15:01
SosumilulzApr 07 15:02
msb_Smartphones and tablets are destroying civilization.  The formerly excellent zap2it.com TV schedule listing has now been trashed and de-featured so it will fit into a postage stamp sized screen.  God effing damn them!Apr 07 15:07
Sosumihow is 5 inches post stamp sizeApr 07 15:08
Sosumimsb_ logicApr 07 15:08
*Sosumi shrugsApr 07 15:08
msb_Hyperbole.  It's still much too small to display a useful amount of information.Apr 07 15:09
Sosumiin between the pros and cons of portability, 5 inches is fineApr 07 15:10
Sosumijust swipe downApr 07 15:10
msb_Any time anyone mentions "improving the user experience" it meanw they are going to s--t all over you.Apr 07 15:10
msb_To hell with that.  I want to see 6 hours of tv listings, not 3.  I want to see 5 days x 24 hours of listings for any particular channel.  I want to see the GD year of release of movies!!!  They've trashed all that.Apr 07 15:11
MinceRmy phone has a 1280x720 5.5" displayApr 07 15:13
msb_I don't want to have to look through a effing keyhole at what was formerly a large 2-D listing, just because some people have tiny screens.Apr 07 15:13
MinceRit fits more information than some laptops.Apr 07 15:13
msb_Good for you.  I hope it came with a microscope.Apr 07 15:13
MinceRit didn't, but my eyes work.Apr 07 15:13
MinceRmy tablet has a 1920x1200 7" display, that's a higher resolution than most monitorsApr 07 15:13
SosumiI have a bottle of water that says "Pedras Salgadas"Apr 07 15:14
Sosuminow try to be that upApr 07 15:14
Sosumi*beatApr 07 15:14
abeNd-orgthey dont have a dropdown to select how much to show?Apr 07 15:14
msb_I have a 1920x1080 27" screen.Apr 07 15:14
msb_No.Apr 07 15:15
MinceRdon't blame smartphones and tablets for people sucking at web design and web programming :>Apr 07 15:15
msb_It used to be part of user preferences, which now mostly don't exist.Apr 07 15:15
MinceRcrApple is making lack of configurability chic.Apr 07 15:15
msb_I blame corps for catering to the lowest most stupid audience.Apr 07 15:16
msb_The KDE4 devs did that too.Apr 07 15:16
MinceRgnome devs did that tooApr 07 15:16
DaemonFCUnless I can get an insanely good deal on a refurbished Chromebook, I might just wait for the Samsung Chromebook 2.Apr 07 15:18
DaemonFChttp://gigaom.com/2014/03/30/samsung-chromebook-2-set-to-square-off-against-intel-powered-chrome-os-devices/Apr 07 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gigaom.com | Samsung Chromebook 2 set to square off against Intel-powered Chrome OS devices — Tech News and Analysis [ http://ur1.ca/h0q4u ]Apr 07 15:18
DaemonFCThese look pretty good.Apr 07 15:18
msb_I would not trust any system that Google controls.Apr 07 15:18
MinceRchromebooks can be taken out of google control, afaikApr 07 15:19
MinceRnot sure how well supplied they are with gpu drivers for x, thoughApr 07 15:19
msb_Google used to have all Usenet text posts as far back as 1980, searchable.  Then they threw it away.Apr 07 15:19
msb_There's no way to talk to them anymore, either.  Google is now just another corporate pig.Apr 07 15:20
MinceRindeed.Apr 07 15:21
MinceRat least their tech tends to suck somewhat lessApr 07 15:21
MinceRand tends to be a little more openApr 07 15:21
msb_BTW, when did laptops become "notebooks"?Apr 07 15:21
msb_If I got one, it would have a 17" screen and a huge hard drive.Apr 07 15:22
MinceRwhen marketers decided it was not a good idea to suggest that people use them in their lap, i guessApr 07 15:22
MinceRmy first two laptops were huge, heavy, with 17" screensApr 07 15:22
MinceRi'm still using my ThinkPad W700 at home.Apr 07 15:22
Sosumiby that definition then, a macbook air should only be used in the "air"Apr 07 15:23
Sosumihopefully, it'll float tooApr 07 15:23
msb_Well, you have to sit it down somewhere in order to type on it, so the only problem with being heavy is carrying it.Apr 07 15:23
msb_Of course floating *would* be nice!Apr 07 15:24
SosumiI bet there's an app for thatApr 07 15:24
Sosumi:)Apr 07 15:24
msb_When did programs become "apps" ?Apr 07 15:25
Sosumiwhen crapple started calling them thatApr 07 15:25
msb_Probably they don't want to remind people about how programmable *people* are!Apr 07 15:25
msb_The poisoned Apple.Apr 07 15:26
Sosumino, they just want ppl to think that their products are single purposed machinesApr 07 15:26
Sosumiaka, can't even properly multitaskApr 07 15:26
MinceR162313 < Sosumi> by that definition then, a macbook air should only be used in the "air"Apr 07 15:26
MinceRno, but it's full of hot airApr 07 15:27
Sosumihow so? facebook can't make a crapbook overheatApr 07 15:27
MinceRcrApple hypeApr 07 15:28
msb_F---book -- there's another load of garbage contaminating the world.Apr 07 15:28
MinceRalso, others probably called applications "apps" well before crApple didApr 07 15:28
msb_Whoever renamed directories as "folders" should be strangled.Apr 07 15:29
msb_I'm in a bad mood today.  Now it will be twice as much work to find out what's on TV.Apr 07 15:30
msb_You can't see what was on last night either.Apr 07 15:31
msb_I guess to the average moron yesterday never existed.Apr 07 15:31
MinceRhttp://www.catb.org/jargon/html/A/app.htmlApr 07 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catb.org | app [ http://ur1.ca/h0q70 ]Apr 07 15:31
msb_Apparently google tried to emulate f--kbook when they designed google+.  It's people-oriented, not subject oriented.  It's for people who don't/can't think.Apr 07 15:34
msb_The Marching Morons.  Apr 07 15:34
msb_Soon we'll see ads for rocket trips to lovely new free homes on Venus.Apr 07 15:35
MinceR:)Apr 07 15:35
msb_PopProbTermApr 07 15:35
MinceRi liked that novelApr 07 15:35
msb_Yeah.Apr 07 15:35
msb_If it weren't for GNU/Linux/FOSS, we'd all be lobotomized now.Apr 07 15:37
MinceRhttp://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=appApr 07 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.etymonline.com | Online Etymology Dictionary [ http://ur1.ca/h0q82 ]Apr 07 15:37
msb_And the Web too, of course.Apr 07 15:37
MinceRhm, not as old as i thought it wasApr 07 15:37
msb_I wouldn't mind people using the term if they knew what a program is.Apr 07 15:38
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cubezzzmsb_, why not just use tvguide.com ?Apr 07 15:40
msb_Thanks, I'll check it out.Apr 07 15:41
cubezzzit's got NAN errors, but basically it works :)Apr 07 15:41
DaemonFCEven the low end hardware has gotten pretty good these days.Apr 07 15:43
msb_cubezzz: tvguide.com also show only 3 hours of listings, and it does not display the season#/episode# of series shows.  But it does show the release year of movies.Apr 07 15:52
cubezzzmsb_, you can specify the time thoughApr 07 15:53
msb_And you can see the previous day, which you can no longer do with zap2it.Apr 07 15:54
cubezzzthere's probably some other way to tap into the infoApr 07 15:55
msb_But the lack of season#/episode# is serious.Apr 07 15:55
msb_If there is, I'd love to know it.Apr 07 15:56
cubezzzhttp://tvlistings.aol.comApr 07 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvlistings.aol.com | TV Listings, Program Schedule, Channels, TV Guide - HuffPost TVApr 07 15:56
cubezzzcurious george, season 5 episode 3 :)Apr 07 15:57
cubezzzToo Close for Comfort, season 1 episode 1Apr 07 15:58
cubezzzseems to have want you wantApr 07 15:58
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msb_I'm on http://tvlistings.aol.com/listings/..., and even signed up for an aol account, god help me, but am still not seeing season#/ep#.Apr 07 16:18
msb_cubezzz: what did you do to see that?Apr 07 16:18
Sosumiaol = america off lineApr 07 16:19
Sosumiand now more ukranian cities are demanding a referendum to join russiaApr 07 16:41
Sosumiafter a couple of pro-russia militia men stormed some government buildingsApr 07 16:42
Sosumiearlier this morningApr 07 16:42
Sosumithey're also demanding peace-keepers, of which russia says that it'll send only if the UN approvesApr 07 16:43
Sosumiso in other words,Apr 07 16:43
Sosumithe fascist coup master minded by the EU and the anglo-americans came back to hit them in the faceApr 07 16:44
Sosumilike a truckApr 07 16:44
Sosumiand MinceR's favorite hungarianApr 07 16:45
SosumiOrban, is still president of HungaryApr 07 16:45
Sosumiand since inflation is lowering in the whole EUApr 07 16:46
Sosumithe ECB is going to take active measures to make sure prices go up, up, upApr 07 16:46
Sosumii think that sums it up for the dayApr 07 16:47
Sosumiand amd launched a new fire pro cardApr 07 16:49
Sosumithe w9100Apr 07 16:49
Sosumihardly beats the quadro k6000 on most stuffApr 07 16:49
Sosumibut couldn't find any gnu/linux benchmarksApr 07 16:51
Sosuminor I have any idea how's the driver certification progress going on for amd on linuxApr 07 16:52
MinceRactually, he's prime ministerApr 07 16:54
MinceRjanos ader is the presidentApr 07 16:54
MinceRhungary is a system with a weak presidentApr 07 16:54
MinceRorban might want to change that though, like putin didApr 07 16:55
MinceRjanos ader is a rubber-stamp robotApr 07 16:55
Sosumi:)Apr 07 17:07
Sosumihttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1NzgApr 07 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Qualcomm Announces 64-bit Snapdragon Processors [ http://ur1.ca/h0qxd ]Apr 07 17:12
SosumiDonetsk just declared independence from ukraineApr 07 17:45
msb_Not many people like Nazis for some reason.Apr 07 17:48
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MinceRif not many people like nazis, then why do EPP member parties keep winning elections?Apr 07 18:55
MinceRand why do people like dictatorships and dictators so much?Apr 07 18:55
Sosumiand why do ppl keep voting in IMF/EU austerity bannerman Apr 07 18:56
Sosumiand sometimes not even voting,Apr 07 18:57
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sebsebsebhiApr 07 18:57
Sosumithey just get appointed prime ministersApr 07 18:58
Sosumilike in *cough* italyApr 07 18:58
Sosumiseb³Apr 07 18:58
Sosumihttps://twitter.com/mike_giglio/status/453229256588685312Apr 07 19:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mike_giglio: Yes I have interviewed my cab driver on the way from the Donetsk airport and he would greet Russian troops "with flowers."Apr 07 19:05
Sosumiand a kiss?Apr 07 19:05
MinceRand two blowjobs (one of them for putin)Apr 07 19:08
Sosumithat escalated quicklyApr 07 19:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE: Monday Report #10 http://t.co/f5BLdfYZANApr 07 19:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h0smrApr 07 19:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Monday Report #10 | Tux MachinesApr 07 19:18
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Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/04/07/phil-schiller-unhappy-with-2013-advertising/Apr 07 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Emails Show Phil Schiller's Displeasure with Ad Agency's Efforts for Apple in Early 2013 - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/h0w4c ]Apr 07 20:52
DaemonFCNothing wrong with that, unless you experience a burning sensation about a week later.Apr 07 20:53
Sosumiphil schiller: "something drastic has to change. fast"Apr 07 20:53
SosumilawlApr 07 20:53
Sosumicrapple selling premium sex toys now? a repurpose of the new mac proApr 07 20:55
Sosumithey are just desperateApr 07 21:00
Sosumiwith no directionApr 07 21:01
Sosumito the point they failed with shipments of the trashcanApr 07 21:01
Sosumiand prior to thatApr 07 21:01
Sosumiwith their redisigned imacApr 07 21:01
Sosumiios6 and 7 haven't seen much of a changeApr 07 21:02
MinceRwell, hypeOS 7 got the LSD themeApr 07 21:02
MinceReven uglier than it was :>Apr 07 21:03
Sosumiother than moving from "stitched leather" to lsd themeApr 07 21:03
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Sosumithe stitched leather interface was actually what got scot "douchbag" forstal firedApr 07 21:04
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Sosumihttp://www.mondaynote.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/iCal-Ugliness.png?d81f8fApr 07 21:06
Sosumihttp://webedible.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/find-my-friends.jpgApr 07 21:06
MinceRcrApple never had "minimalist elegance"Apr 07 21:07
Sosumieven more horrible and unpleasant than ribbonApr 07 21:07
MinceRmaybe before OSuX, but even that's doubtfulApr 07 21:07
Sosumino idea before osxApr 07 21:08
Sosumibut, minimalistic elegance for crapple means removing choiceApr 07 21:08
Sosumior hiding it awayApr 07 21:08
Sosumiand impose onto the user a standard defined by themApr 07 21:09
MinceRoh, that makes senseApr 07 21:09
MinceRin a wayApr 07 21:09
Sosumiwhich most of the times turn out to be worse than the previous "standard"Apr 07 21:09
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Sosumihence the stitched leatherApr 07 21:10
Sosumiand the lsd themeApr 07 21:10
Sosumiwhen they could have just stayed on the brushed metal or the glossy plastic lookApr 07 21:10
MinceRstitched leather worked better on the back of samsung devices :>Apr 07 21:10
SosumiI don't like stitched leatherApr 07 21:11
MinceRwell, even in the OSuX i tried on a VM, they couldn't decide between brushed metal and water drops on ruled paperApr 07 21:11
MinceRfinder used bothApr 07 21:11
MinceRand yet the fanbois were gushing about how consistent it was :>Apr 07 21:11
Sosumifinder is not consistentApr 07 21:11
Sosumiit got better recently wit the adding of tabbed navigationApr 07 21:13
MinceRbreadcrumbs?Apr 07 21:13
SosumilolApr 07 21:13
Sosumibut is still a messApr 07 21:14
Sosumiforgets favorites if they're placed on an external driveApr 07 21:14
Sosumiand so onApr 07 21:15
Sosumiif i remember more crap to complain about finder, I'll say itApr 07 21:15
MinceR:>Apr 07 21:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 0.8.9 Gets Its Third Update Pack withApr 07 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Newer Linux Kernels http://t.co/XYENYY0nXzApr 07 21:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Angie Byron on Drupal 8 out of the boxApr 07 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GqEJgxMBKuApr 07 21:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nouveau Picks Up Slightly Better OpenGL 4.0Apr 07 21:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Support http://t.co/8A4O3nnNOZApr 07 21:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 0.8.9 Gets Its Third Update Pack with Newer Linux Kernels | Tux MachinesApr 07 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Angie Byron on Drupal 8 out of the box | Tux MachinesApr 07 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nouveau Picks Up Slightly Better OpenGL 4.0 Support | Tux MachinesApr 07 21:23
msb_Regarding the necessity of GUI consistency:  “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds,..." -- Emerson -- http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/353571-a-foolish-consistency-is-the-hobgoblin-of-little-minds-adoredApr 07 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of littl...” [ http://ur1.ca/h0zke ]Apr 07 21:49
msb_https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/03/06/pers-m06.htmlApr 07 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | The fascist danger in Ukraine - World Socialist Web Site [ http://ur1.ca/h0zlm ]Apr 07 21:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     20-Way Intel/AMD/NVIDIA GPU Comparison WithApr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu 14.04 LTS http://t.co/Z3W5wBiNGvApr 07 22:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 20-Way Intel/AMD/NVIDIA GPU Comparison With Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Tux MachinesApr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why so much fuss over Windows XP’s expiry?Apr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dIDGiIZvbGApr 07 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why so much fuss over Windows XP’s expiry? | Tux MachinesApr 07 22:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The end of Windows XP: Is it time to give LinuxApr 07 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 a try? http://t.co/n9hb252Mw1Apr 07 22:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The end of Windows XP: Is it time to give Linux a try? | Tux MachinesApr 07 22:23
DaemonFChmmmApr 07 22:31
DaemonFCIt seems that Google Chromebooks have this stupid thing called Google Cloud Print.Apr 07 22:31
DaemonFCBasically it means that anything you print gets sent to Google and then re-routed to your printer, which means you need to buy a new printer.Apr 07 22:32
msb_Why?Apr 07 22:39
msb_DaemonFC: Does the cloud get the printer all wet?Apr 07 22:40
MinceRkinkyApr 07 22:41
msb_8^)Apr 07 22:42
DaemonFCThey say it's so they don't have to ship support for a bunch of printers.Apr 07 22:46
MinceRbut actually it's so that the nsa can have a good look at everything you printApr 07 22:47
MinceRalso, there are printers where you can submit a job on a web interface, so it isn't really needed.Apr 07 22:47
DaemonFCRight. There's no GOOD reason why they can't just connect to the printer some other way.Apr 07 23:03
DaemonFCIt's spyware.Apr 07 23:03
DaemonFCMinceR: They have a list of ways you can use it.Apr 07 23:05
DaemonFCYou can use a regular printer by connecting it to a Windows PC or a Mac and installing some special software from Google.Apr 07 23:05
DaemonFCYou can buy a new printer that Google can send print jobs to.Apr 07 23:05
DaemonFCOr you can submit it as a print job for FedEx and get a code to enter that prints the pages out when you get there.Apr 07 23:06
MinceRgnApr 07 23:19
DaemonFChttp://www.google.com/cloudprint/learn/printers.html#Apr 07 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | Google - Cloud Print [ http://ur1.ca/h12hd ]Apr 07 23:28
DaemonFCThat sees like a big pain in the ass just to print an occasional page.Apr 07 23:28
DaemonFCseemsApr 07 23:29
DaemonFCPrinters are just evil in general.Apr 07 23:31
DaemonFCHP and others even go so far as to code their printer cartridges with an expiration date.Apr 07 23:31
DaemonFCStarting the day you put the cartridge in the printer, it starts a countdown, so that the damned thing will eventually refuse to print, even if you have ink left.Apr 07 23:32
DaemonFCI hate printers so much that I just go to the library and use one of their computers when I need a copy of something.Apr 07 23:34
DaemonFCIt's much cheaper to pay them 20 cents a page than it is to buy a printer and play the ink cartridge gamesApr 07 23:34
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DaemonFCI'm digging through the refurb laptops on the Acer outlet storefront.Apr 08 00:02
DaemonFCThat $150 C720 is so tempting.Apr 08 00:03
DaemonFCWhere else do you get a laptop that does anything for $150? :)Apr 08 00:03
DaemonFCGoogle says that once a Chromebook has had the first user sign in, that no further users are eligible for any of the "goodies" though.Apr 08 00:03
DaemonFCincluding two years of free 100 GB Google DriveApr 08 00:04
DaemonFCSo, that wipes out at least $50 in value right off the bat.Apr 08 00:04
DaemonFCA 15 GB Google Drive is free though. I already have one because I use Android.Apr 08 00:04
DaemonFCIf you don't do much with it except uploading photos and stuff, 15 GB should be sufficient.Apr 08 00:07
DaemonFCPlus, you can always use a thumb drive.Apr 08 00:07
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DaemonFChttp://imgur.com/MKybStQApr 08 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | imgur: the simple image sharerApr 08 01:44
DaemonFCLOLApr 08 01:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD, Mentor Graphics Partner on Embedded LinuxApr 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Development http://t.co/9rMEpuB5NzApr 08 04:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD, Mentor Graphics Partner on Embedded Linux Development | Tux MachinesApr 08 04:07
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DaemonFCMinceR: What do you think. Apr 08 04:24
DaemonFCIs losing the 2 years of free Google Drive worth the $50 I'd save on a refurb Chromebook?Apr 08 04:24
DaemonFC:)Apr 08 04:24
DaemonFCI decided to change my Amazon Smile charity to the Electronic Frontier Foundation.Apr 08 04:54
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msb_cubezzz: By turning off popup blocking and AdBlockPlus I was able to see Season/Episode numbers in the aol tv schedule.  But it runs audiovisual flash ads when I click on a show to see that, which could crash my computer.  Also it shows only 2.5hours of schedule, and the time selector doesn't work -- ask for 10PM and I get 10AM.  Also no movie year, nor original series ep broadcast date.  No better than zap2it, which now has season/ep Apr 08 05:33
msb_numbers again.Apr 08 05:33
msb_Basically, it's the shits.Apr 08 05:34
msb_I will NOT have a website blasting me with ads!  Ads are victimization by corporate psychopaths.Apr 08 05:35
msb_(Unless they're small, silent, easy to ignore, and don't F up my software.)Apr 08 05:36
Agnesitoner doesn't have an expiration dateApr 08 06:30
Agnesinor it driesApr 08 06:30
Agnesiso, laser printers ftwApr 08 06:30
Agnesinot to mention that text looks much better on laser than on inkApr 08 06:31
cubezzzeh? how could it crash your computer?Apr 08 07:10
cubezzzwell, I'll see what else I can findApr 08 07:11
MinceRi suppose by triggering video driver bugsApr 08 07:22
MinceRthat said, i've never seen it happenApr 08 07:22
MinceRthe most was taking the browser down with it and even that was ages agoApr 08 07:22
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cubezzztry this one:Apr 08 07:38
cubezzzhttps://www.tivo.com/tivo-tco/tvlistings.doApr 08 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tivo.com | TV Listings Guide - TiVo [ http://ur1.ca/h1645 ]Apr 08 07:38
cubezzzdebian has something called "Freeguide"Apr 08 07:40
cubezzzalso tv-browserApr 08 07:47
cubezzzalso set up a free trail on http://www.schedulesdirect.orgApr 08 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.schedulesdirect.org | Schedules DirectApr 08 07:51
cubezzzonce I figure out the true source of the tv info I'll hack up a text based program Apr 08 08:02
msb_cubezzz: Hi!  I was asleep for a while there.Apr 08 08:06
msb_I've had some crashes the seem to relate to high usage of cpu by firefox.  Apr 08 08:06
cubezzzthere's even one for KDEApr 08 08:06
cubezzzI'm compiling it now to check it outApr 08 08:07
msb_Might also have been due to cpu overheating before I cleaned its heatsink fins.Apr 08 08:07
cubezzzbah, the kde project seems abandonedApr 08 08:09
msb_Have to go do something now, back in 15 min. or so.  Thanks for your help!  I'll try the sites you've suggested when I get back.Apr 08 08:09
msb_Where did it get its data from?Apr 08 08:09
cubezzzyeah it seems it's called a "grabber"Apr 08 08:13
cubezzzthis looks more promising:Apr 08 08:17
cubezzzhttp://mc2xml.hosterbox.net/Apr 08 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mc2xml.hosterbox.net | mc2xmlApr 08 08:17
cubezzzmsb_, mc2xml looks like it's the best of the bunchApr 08 08:20
amarsh04new kernel timeApr 08 08:20
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cubezzzit seems it actually downloads from zap2it :)Apr 08 08:21
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msb_segment fault -- core dumpedApr 08 08:37
msb_OK, back now.Apr 08 08:37
msb_cubezzz: Well if it DLs from zap2it, it ain't gonna work anymore.Apr 08 08:38
cubezzzI just used itApr 08 08:38
msb_Ruby has a great web-page scraping library, and some years ago I used it to get data from some TV site.Apr 08 08:38
cubezzzthere's a dozen busted-ass projects I'm wading throughApr 08 08:39
msb_Did mc2xml give a useful xml file?Apr 08 08:41
cubezzzit didApr 08 08:41
cubezzzha!Apr 08 08:44
cubezzzhahahaApr 08 08:44
cubezzzawesome, so maxemum actually does work, in tandem with mc2xmlApr 08 08:44
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/maxemum-tv-guide.pngApr 08 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/maxemum-tv-guide.png )Apr 08 08:46
cubezzzit's there nowApr 08 08:46
cubezzznote the categories, that's handyApr 08 08:48
cubezzzand best of all msb_, KDE 3.5.10 compatible :)Apr 08 08:48
msb_Yowza!Apr 08 08:49
cubezzzso to set it up I did: ./mc2xml -g l1j6t2 -c caApr 08 08:50
cubezzzso you would just put in your zip code and us I reckonApr 08 08:50
cubezzzthen set up maxemum to point to your xmltv.xml fileApr 08 08:50
msb_Where do I get maxemum?Apr 08 08:51
cubezzzit's small so I'll host itApr 08 08:52
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/maxemumtvguide-7.3.2.tar.gzApr 08 08:52
cubezzzlooks like mc2xml grabs 3 weeks of dataApr 08 08:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LTO Support Coming To Linux 3.15, Making For AApr 08 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Faster Kernel http://t.co/RnHzgoJUjcApr 08 08:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/h16ixApr 08 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LTO Support Coming To Linux 3.15, Making For A Faster Kernel | Tux MachinesApr 08 08:55
cubezzzI'm using a buffalo zip so I get the us channels tooApr 08 09:06
msb_cubezzz: maxemum won't compile: fatal error: dcopclient.h: No such file or directory -- suse repo doesn't seem to have an rpm with itApr 08 09:08
cubezzzare you sure you don't have that file somewhere?Apr 08 09:09
msb_actually I do!  /opt/kde3/include/dcopclient.hApr 08 09:10
msb_how do I tell make where to find it?Apr 08 09:10
cubezzzthe usual place is /usr/includeApr 08 09:10
cubezzzah, the categories toggleApr 08 09:12
msb_Hah?Apr 08 09:14
msb_cubezzz: where is that toggle?Apr 08 09:16
cubezzzit's in channels and categoriesApr 08 09:16
cubezzzyou un-hilight everything, you see everythingApr 08 09:17
cubezzzotherwise you only see what you have hilightedApr 08 09:17
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msb_How do I tell make to look in /opt/kde3/include for .h files?Apr 08 09:19
cubezzzeasier to just copy the file into /usr/include Apr 08 09:19
msb_ok, I'm on my 3rd .h file!Apr 08 09:20
MinceRhttp://heartbleed.com/Apr 08 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-heartbleed.com | Heartbleed BugApr 08 09:22
cubezzzwhadda know, dragnet is still onApr 08 09:22
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/maxemum-tv-guide2.pngApr 08 09:23
MinceRgeekingsApr 08 09:26
msb_cubezzz: OK, after copying 5 .h files, I'm now getting a big C++ error.  Can I PM that to you?Apr 08 09:28
cubezzzsureApr 08 09:28
msb_there it is.  Maybe you could just send me your executable?Apr 08 09:30
msb_I'll put on goggles and a protective suit before I run it.Apr 08 09:31
cubezzzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/maxemumtvguideApr 08 09:33
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Agnesihttp://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-reviewApr 08 11:06
Agnesi"Samsung Galaxy S5 review"Apr 08 11:06
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Agnesilabel me unimpressedApr 08 11:06
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schestowitz_bed2[23:34] <DaemonFC> I hate printers so much that I just go to the library and use one of their computers when I need a copy of something.Apr 08 11:36
schestowitz_bed2[23:34] <DaemonFC> It's much cheaper to pay them 20 cents a page than it is to buy a printer and play the ink cartridge gamesApr 08 11:36
schestowitz_bed2I'm the saemApr 08 11:36
schestowitz_bed2in a photo development shopApr 08 11:36
schestowitz_bed2they also make better printsApr 08 11:36
schestowitz_bed2the idea of printing from home is the anti-sharing mentalityApr 08 11:37
schestowitz_bed2where rather than a family sharing a landline each carries a tracking deviceApr 08 11:37
schestowitz_bed2and people buy several of each thing instead of sharingApr 08 11:37
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DaemonFCschestowitz_bed2: They have family plans. A smartphone is a computer. You don't really want to share it with people.Apr 08 11:47
DaemonFCI do like that Android Beam.Apr 08 11:47
DaemonFCWhere you can beam files to other Android phones.Apr 08 11:47
DaemonFCschestowitz_bed2: I'll bet that Google made some kind of deal with HP.Apr 08 11:52
DaemonFCThey make Chromebooks and then Google sabotages the OS to where it can't run a printer connected over USB.Apr 08 11:52
DaemonFCsuddenly you need a "google cloud print" printer that sends all your documents to the NSAApr 08 11:53
DaemonFCschestowitz_bed2: I did end up snagging that $149.99 refurbished C720. Apr 08 11:54
DaemonFCI was hoping to get one for $99 at Best Buy in exchange for one of my XP boat anchors that's been in the bedroom closet for years.Apr 08 11:54
DaemonFCBut the real deal ended up being honored only if you trade in a laptop.Apr 08 11:55
schestowitz_bed2[13:00] <DaemonFC> schestowitz__: That's why you don't talk about who you voted for at work.Apr 08 11:56
schestowitz_bed2[13:01] <MinceR> schestowitz__: what is that referring to?Apr 08 11:56
schestowitz_bed2Eich incidentApr 08 11:56
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schestowitz__[11:54] <DaemonFC> suddenly you need a "google cloud print" printer that sends all your documents to the NSAApr 08 11:57
schestowitz__!google eff printer suerveillanceApr 08 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Printer Dots | Electronic Frontier Foundation | https://www.eff.org/foia/foia-printer-dotsApr 08 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - deeplinks/printers - | Electronic Frontier Foundation | https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/printersApr 08 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Printers | Electronic Frontier Foundation | https://www.eff.org/issues/printersApr 08 11:57
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - The SSD Project - EFF Surveillance Self-Defense Project | https://ssd.eff.org/book/export/html/14Apr 08 11:57
DaemonFCschestowitz__: If people don't want to take the consequences for donating to offensive causes, then they shouldn't do that.Apr 08 11:57
MinceRi thought it was about funding, not votingApr 08 11:57
schestowitz__both countApr 08 11:58
schestowitz__in a workplaceApr 08 11:58
DaemonFCI changed my Amazon Smile charity to the Electronic Frontier Foundation.Apr 08 11:58
schestowitz__ a superior might not promote someone for voting far rightApr 08 11:58
schestowitz__or even Republican, which in the US is "acceptable" far rightApr 08 11:58
schestowitz__DaemonFC: good for youApr 08 11:58
schestowitz__yuo might be on a "list" for thatApr 08 11:59
schestowitz__one day you put a sticker on your laptop and the next day you're accused of working for FSB in MoscowApr 08 11:59
MinceRi tend to peel stickers off my laptopsApr 08 12:00
MinceRespecially the winblows adsApr 08 12:00
MinceRalso helps reduce the bazaar look :>Apr 08 12:01
schestowitz__I did that tooApr 08 12:01
schestowitz__Some don't peel off so wellApr 08 12:01
cubezzzhaha, I figure you did that MinceR :)Apr 08 12:01
MinceRsome stickers i would like to retain tend to peel off their ownApr 08 12:02
MinceRthe nSeries sticker on my dHell became an empty silvery rectangle after a whileApr 08 12:03
schestowitz__mehApr 08 12:03
schestowitz__mine has warranty stickerApr 08 12:03
MinceRthe GNU or FSF (i can't remember which) sticker i replaced it with also became a silvery circleApr 08 12:03
schestowitz__covering the remnants of a Windows Vistas sticker that did not peel off so wellApr 08 12:03
schestowitz__Because, you know, it's VistaApr 08 12:03
MinceRthe ThinkPad logo on the wrist pad of my tablet PC became a hollow shapeApr 08 12:03
schestowitz__nothing works wellApr 08 12:03
MinceR:>Apr 08 12:03
MinceRmy sweat probably dissolves the solventsApr 08 12:04
cubezzzat least they don't stamp MICROSOFT into the laptop's molecular structure :)Apr 08 12:04
MinceRyetApr 08 12:04
schestowitz__There is also ATI sticker (AMD) and Intel on itApr 08 12:04
schestowitz__I leave the Intel one on because it might not peel off wellApr 08 12:04
*|Omega| is now known as OmegaApr 08 12:04
schestowitz__and it look a bit fancy with hologramic effectApr 08 12:04
MinceRi don't mind the intel stickersApr 08 12:04
schestowitz__It's like "smoking kills" stickerApr 08 12:04
schestowitz__"centrino Inside"Apr 08 12:05
DaemonFCMinceR: Some of those Chromebooks are covered in stickers.Apr 08 12:05
schestowitz__[12:04] <MinceR> my sweat probably dissolves the solventsApr 08 12:05
DaemonFC"OMG, THIS HAS WIRELESS N ZOMG!!!!"Apr 08 12:05
schestowitz__Is Absurdistan ever getting so warm?Apr 08 12:05
DaemonFC"ZOMG INTEL INSIDE!!!!"Apr 08 12:05
schestowitz__YeahApr 08 12:05
cubezzzavoiding Intel is toughApr 08 12:06
DaemonFCI think that the one I bought only has the Intel sticker.Apr 08 12:06
MinceRmy EeePC had lots of stickersApr 08 12:06
schestowitz__Did Google trademark "Chrome"?Apr 08 12:06
MinceR:>Apr 08 12:06
DaemonFCIt has a Haswell Celeron.Apr 08 12:06
schestowitz__Or did it strugglew like ti does with "Glass"?Apr 08 12:06
schestowitz__MS got "Windows", but Google can't get "Glass"Apr 08 12:06
MinceRschestowitz__: the unhabitable concrete box i live in has no air conditioningApr 08 12:06
DaemonFCschestowitz__: I think that the C720 is the best deal out there right now, especially refurbished.Apr 08 12:06
MinceRor proper insulationApr 08 12:07
DaemonFCWhere else are you going to get a laptop that does all that for $150?Apr 08 12:07
cubezzzit's still cold hereApr 08 12:07
cubezzz1 C Apr 08 12:07
DaemonFCAs far as I know, there aren't any $150 Windows laptops out there at all.Apr 08 12:07
MinceReventually my sweat took off the intel stickers too, iircApr 08 12:07
MinceRbut those didn't come apartApr 08 12:07
DaemonFCMinceR: They could probably get the price down some more if they went with AMD.Apr 08 12:09
DaemonFCfor the ChromebooksApr 08 12:09
DaemonFCThe fact that there's an Intel processor in there at all, even just a Celeron, probably raises the price $20-30.Apr 08 12:09
DaemonFCThey could be selling these things brand new for $150 and making a profit with AMD processors.Apr 08 12:10
DaemonFCI deliberately stayed away from the Samsung Chromebook.Apr 08 12:13
MinceRmy 'replace the laptop with an arm tablet' project failedApr 08 12:13
DaemonFCIt's more expensive, it's slower, and it has proprietary graphics drivers that aren't included in standard GNU/Linux distributions, so it's very hard to run anything other than Chrome OS on it.Apr 08 12:13
DaemonFCYeah.Apr 08 12:13
DaemonFCMinceR: I tried that back in 2011 with an Archos G9.Apr 08 12:14
DaemonFCThey're just not good enough.Apr 08 12:14
MinceRmainly because the android UI is not that keyboard-friendly and can't run x2x or synergyApr 08 12:14
MinceR(it traps alt+tab and super+tab for the same thing, and i can't let them through to bVNC)Apr 08 12:14
DaemonFCMinceR: Swype works fine on phones.Apr 08 12:14
MinceRhacker's keyboard works fine on phones and tabletsApr 08 12:15
MinceRwell, sometimes it gets a little sluggish