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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455251777534042112 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455248258936627200 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455248073657421824 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455247523184410624 | Apr 13 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Box joins the open source bandwagon with new showcase http://t.co/oM8KtSVZOy http://t.co/f8qz2D8Nng | Apr 13 08:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Box joins the open source bandwagon with new showcase | ZDNet | Apr 13 08:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techcrunch.com | Box Debuts ‘Box Open Source’ To Share Its Internal Tools With The Larger Developer World | TechCrunch | Apr 13 08:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Collateral Benefits of India's Open Source Drug Discovery Programme http://t.co/JU1r0BThME saving lives by sharing | Apr 13 08:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> forbesindia.com | Forbes India Magazine - The Collateral Benefits of India's Open Source Drug Discovery Programme | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #RedHat answers governments’ questions on Freeware and Open Source http://t.co/3Web60oSg6 when government don't grasp freedom | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.futuregov.asia | Red Hat answers governments’ questions on Freeware and Open Source | Articles | FutureGov - Transforming Government | Education | Healthcare | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Out in the Open: Build Your Own Siri With This Free Code and without #apple and #google (PRISM) recording all http://t.co/B5kIxDR9CE | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | Out in the Open: Build Your Own Siri With This Free Code | Enterprise | WIRED | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455246832877449216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455245630521503744 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455244360444293120 | Apr 13 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When Should We Go Open Source? http://t.co/bM88YKIOwj free, not open | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eetimes.com | When Should We Go Open Source? | EE Times | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open source gives new life to old Windows XP machines http://t.co/zBlriJBwJX another article advising people to move to #gnu #linux | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> phys.org | Open source gives new life to old Windows XP machines | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: University Of Maryland Explores Open Source Textbooks http://t.co/SZLrjlxILy #sharing economy | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ubergizmo.com | University Of Maryland Explores Open Source Textbooks | Ubergizmo | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/RichardSmedley/status/455252646493188096 https://twitter.com/RichardSmedley/status/455252882787680256 | Apr 13 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardSmedley: @schestowitz Interesting. Where is the hardware equivalent of sourceforge? Perhaps github works as well for circuit revisions as code? | Apr 13 09:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardSmedley: @schestowitz ...though there's OpenCores for CPUs, of course. | Apr 13 09:28 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | I think you have identified a gap; would be nice to have schematic diff, commit, etc. | Apr 13 09:29 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Apr 13 10:04 | |
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| schestowitz_log_ | nice simple widget: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/64917 | Apr 13 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 13 11:11 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | oops. handy: http://countingdownto.com/ | Apr 13 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-countingdownto.com | Create a Countdown Clock Widget for Your Website | CountingDownTo.com | Apr 13 11:11 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | That's the right link | Apr 13 11:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455292033939537920 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455290488216911874 | Apr 13 11:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Indian press turns #greenwald into an #apple product http://t.co/aJhX7kbPIy | Apr 13 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.business-standard.com | iGreenwald back in US after NSA revelations | Business Standard | Apr 13 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Economist Thomas Piketty's message is bleak: the gap between rich and poor threatens to destroy us" http://t.co/rYvlnaXLVs | Apr 13 11:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Capitalism simply isn't working and here are the reasons why | Will Hutton | Comment is free | The Observer | Apr 13 11:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/3920193 | Apr 13 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Silicon Valley co... | Apr 13 11:42 | |
| schestowitz | Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/12/silicon-valley-nsa-reform-taking-so-long #obama works for1% & #nsa which works for the 1% | Apr 13 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? | Trevor Timm | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/h2ind ] | Apr 13 11:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/IanTheInventor/status/455296444573163520 | Apr 13 11:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IanTheInventor: @schestowitz @PaulbernalUK I thought Copyright infringement was about people profiting from pretending to be an established business | Apr 13 11:52 | |
| schestowitz | Depends what the copyright is on, e.g. work of dead artist... | Apr 13 11:52 |
| MinceR | geekings | Apr 13 11:54 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, I'm reading here it's possible for the console to be taken over by a loadable module | Apr 13 11:55 |
| cubezzz | e.g. /sbin/modprobe uvesafb | Apr 13 11:57 |
| schestowitz | wow, neocons: http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/13697/nsa-leaks-fallout-will-fade-faster-than-hit-to-u-s-pride | Apr 13 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldpoliticsreview.com | NSA Leaks Fallout Will Fade Faster Than Hit to U.S. Pride [ http://ur1.ca/h2it4 ] | Apr 13 12:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2014/04/11/national-security-agency-heartbleed-bug-spying/7609019/ | Apr 13 12:16 |
| schestowitz | "Even if we are to believe the NSA, and I'm reluctant given its shaky track record, the damage has been done to the tech community." | Apr 13 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | First Take: The Latest Apparent NSA Outrage [ http://ur1.ca/h2itj ] | Apr 13 12:17 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.foxbaltimore.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/gogo-other-wifi-providers-gives-information-nsa-27091.shtml | Apr 13 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxbaltimore.com | Go-Go And Other Wi-Fi Providers Gives Information To NSA - WBFF Fox Baltimore - Top Stories [ http://ur1.ca/h2iu4 ] | Apr 13 12:21 | |
| msb_ | "Even if we are to believe the NSA, and I'm reluctant given its shaky track record, the damage has been done to the tech community." | Apr 13 13:02 |
| msb_ | Perhaps all the revelations of NSA spying have benefitted the tech community. | Apr 13 13:03 |
| msb_ | Many techies tend to be apolitical, perhaps because technology provides such an enjoyable area of interest, while politics are unpleasant. | Apr 13 13:04 |
| msb_ | But now, a whole new array of people have been forced to realize how evil -- untrustworthy and harmful -- the U.S. government actually is. | Apr 13 13:05 |
| msb_ | It has hit them where they live. | Apr 13 13:05 |
| msb_ | Awareness of the evil is the most important factor in ridding the world of it. | Apr 13 13:06 |
| cubezzz | well that was interesting | Apr 13 13:06 |
| cubezzz | I actually managed to change the text console | Apr 13 13:06 |
| msb_ | More and more people are questioning the 9/11 attacks, which were the pretext for the US/Israeli War of Terror. | Apr 13 13:07 |
| msb_ | Every increase in people's awareness of the dominator psychopaths is a step forward. | Apr 13 13:08 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, I mangaged to switch from bog standard 80x25 text to vga16fb | Apr 13 13:09 |
| cubezzz | anyways, it's in the log if you ever come across it | Apr 13 13:09 |
| msb_ | Congrats cubezzz. Yes, IIRC, you can do that with kernel options at startup. | Apr 13 13:10 |
| cubezzz | msb_, this is dynamic | Apr 13 13:10 |
| msb_ | Oho! | Apr 13 13:10 |
| msb_ | So it's a loadable kernel module? | Apr 13 13:11 |
| cubezzz | yes | Apr 13 13:11 |
| cubezzz | works in 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, although those are the only 2 I've tried so far | Apr 13 13:13 |
| cubezzz | now the interesting part is... will this fix a messed up text console | Apr 13 13:13 |
| msb_ | Exactly what I was going to ask. | Apr 13 13:14 |
| cubezzz | well I have to get it to mess up first to test that | Apr 13 13:14 |
| msb_ | How often has it been happening? | Apr 13 13:14 |
| cubezzz | ha | Apr 13 13:14 |
| cubezzz | it happens about once or twice a month | Apr 13 13:15 |
| msb_ | Do you monitor your cpu and mobo temperature sensors? | Apr 13 13:15 |
| msb_ | KDE4 system monitor can do that. | Apr 13 13:16 |
| cubezzz | you can monitor my sensors :) | Apr 13 13:16 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/cgi-bin/sensors.cgi | Apr 13 13:16 |
| cubezzz | I don't think I'm using -12V or -5V | Apr 13 13:18 |
| cubezzz | I think -12V was actually dropped from ATX a while back | Apr 13 13:18 |
| msb_ | Isn't science wonderful! | Apr 13 13:21 |
| msb_ | What program gives you that listing? | Apr 13 13:21 |
| cubezzz | it's part of lm_sensors | Apr 13 13:26 |
| cubezzz | yeah KDE 3.X probably has something | Apr 13 13:28 |
| cubezzz | but it's nice to be able to use it in text mode | Apr 13 13:28 |
| msb_ | I just loaded an rpm that supposedly has it, but it's not showing up yet. Have to look in half an hour when this anime' I'm watching is over. | Apr 13 13:34 |
| msb_ | There's so much I don't know. I feel like I'm Dilbert going up against Techno-Bill! | Apr 13 13:34 |
| cubezzz | well I was in the video game industry for quite a while | Apr 13 13:36 |
| cubezzz | so I picked up a bit about low-level stuff | Apr 13 13:37 |
| msb_ | At least I was an expert on the IBM-PC. Used to write wedges that went into the BIOS interrupt chains. | Apr 13 13:37 |
| cubezzz | probably the coreboot guys know the most | Apr 13 13:37 |
| cubezzz | the learning curve is a lot higher now | Apr 13 13:38 |
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| cubezzz | so many different motherboards, chipsets, etc | Apr 13 13:38 |
| msb_ | And I'm also putting a lot of effort into understanding and publicizing what's really going on in the world, e.g., http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911 | Apr 13 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Apr 13 13:40 | |
| msb_ | And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqs7GJ0jdY | Apr 13 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Psychopathy in Politics and Finance - Stefan Verstappen on GRTV - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/g85hq ] | Apr 13 13:42 | |
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| schestowitz | Russian propagandahttp://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_13/CIAs-head-has-come-to-Ukraine-to-instruct-power-agencies-unofficial-source-6354/ http://www.voanews.com/content/the-cias-cultural-war-against-soviet-russia/1890560.html | Apr 13 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-voiceofrussia.com | CIA's head has come to Ukraine to instruct power agencies - unofficial source - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video [ http://ur1.ca/h2j8h ] | Apr 13 13:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | The CIA’s Cultural War Against Soviet Russia [ http://ur1.ca/h2j8i ] | Apr 13 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | Federal Court: Drone Killing of U.S. Citizens Is Constitutional http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/18019-federal-court-drone-killing-of-u-s-citizens-is-constitutional and if this does not worry the population, nothing will | Apr 13 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewamerican.com | Federal Court: Drone Killing of U.S. Citizens Is Constitutional [ http://ur1.ca/h2j9s ] | Apr 13 13:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/455334379280027649 | Apr 13 14:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@angrymofo: @schestowitz Not yet, I really hope something like #Heartbleed turns up in #Snowden's leaked docs. Exploits like this are their everyday job | Apr 13 14:21 | |
| schestowitz | One job among several, and the goal is not to fix em :-) | Apr 13 14:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455334172689965056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455331932705128448 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455330615530098688 | Apr 13 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Links: Surveillance, Intervention, Torture and Drones http://t.co/XamlTGNwhU "spreading democracy", aggressively | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Links: Surveillance, Intervention, Torture and Drones | Techrights | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CNN: "CIA...called things like waterboarding "enhanced interrogation methods." But the only adequate word to describe them is "torture."" | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: US Interrogator Calls CIA Program 'Stanford Prison Experiment Writ Large' http://t.co/TJX1jyKnlH experiment on live sample | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.businessinsider.com | CIA Enhanced Interrogation Was Out Of Control - Business Insider | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455330188617089024 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329791148052480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329535081603072 | Apr 13 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Rep. Ellison calls for speedy release of report on CIA interrogations http://t.co/5PQoTtYDmJ asking truth from the #cia a risky proposition | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.startribune.com | Rep. Ellison calls for speedy release of report on CIA interrogations | Star Tribune | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CIA profiling reminds US Arabs of the Mukhabarat http://t.co/zpxQBpK6Gz #mccarthyism | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenational.ae | CIA profiling reminds US Arabs of the Mukhabarat | The National | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CIA's "harsh interrogations" exceeded legal authority - report http://t.co/4WS9azV99U hence, no authority exists above CIA | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> in.reuters.com | CIA's harsh interrogations exceeded legal authority - report | Reuters | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329349622038528 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329102829207552 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455328531040727040 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455327946530914304 | Apr 13 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It seems as though, based on sources inside the #nsa , #heatbleed used by NSA for years, but NSA denies it b/c there's no leaked doc | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: One leak can do a while lot more than a lot of activism which can be denied as "false" http://t.co/ifh0lDLRte http://t.co/6QRsHVxm97 | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.scmp.com | CIA tortured prisoners and lied to US Justice Department, Senate report says | South China Morning Post | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bradblog.com | Leaked Findings of Senate Report on 'CIA Torture and Detention' Detail Illegalities, Incompetence, Endangerment of National Security, War Crimes | The BRAD BLOG | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Now We Know What's Being Done In Our Name http://t.co/UAbbrrGWlA and we can do more to stop this. #snowden #wikileaks | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.esquire.com | CIA Torture Report Leak - Now We Know What's Being Done In Our Name - Esquire | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Those not distracted by #gop #propaganda (mostly Fox) over #morell may have seen reports such as (2013): http://t.co/H2aNSwbePC | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | CIA 'running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked' - Telegraph | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455327240499503104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455327240499503104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455326743944253440 | Apr 13 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Syria #cia and #mi6 intervention: "Ankara worked with the US and Britain to smuggle Gaddafi's guns to rebel groups" http://t.co/XCgXFviy9n | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | MI6, the CIA and Turkey's rogue game in Syria - Comment - Voices - The Independent | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The leaked report about #cia #torture reveals Zero Dark Thirty to be not just #propaganda but also #revisionism - #torture did not work. | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455326398874664961 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455326042476249088 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455325254219755521 | Apr 13 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "CIA misled the media and the public about the effectiveness of cruel and unusual" #torture http://t.co/t4aNRkO7vW | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.salon.com | Torture report leak: CIA methods “brutal,” “worse than communicated” - Salon.com | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #uk helped #cia #torture not just in #soctland according to reports http://t.co/85oIfBRyyy http://t.co/NJJaoS63YN | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | UK urged to admit that CIA used island as secret 'black site' prison | World news | The Observer | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | British gave 'full co-operation' for CIA black jail on Diego Garcia, report claims - Telegraph | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: British press carries on with "black box" #propaganda and endless promises, optimism. At stake? #Boeing sales. http://t.co/gGJHib4Uiw | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Missing Malaysian plane's black box batteries may have died - The Times of India | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455296206101811200 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455295518995132417 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455294818638635008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455294509216452608 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455294231226372096 | Apr 13 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA allowed to keep secret some Internet security flaws, officials say http://t.co/vcbrNZQes3 cracking is good, believes USG | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bostonglobe.com | Obama allows NSA to keep some Internet security flaws secret, officials say - Nation - The Boston Globe | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When cracker does not work for government, s/he starts nuclear war. When cracker works for government, it's security. We are the Good Guys! | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NSA Blows Its Own Top Secret Program in Order to Propagandize https://t.co/javgGvmBIX #nsa leads to deaths. #droNSA | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org | NSA Blows Its Own Top Secret Program in Order to Propagandize - The Intercept | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: According to #nytimes (Pentagon apologist), #obama is now cracker in chief and the whole nation should be proud of it. #crime | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Lets N.S.A. Exploit Some Internet Flaws, Officials Say http://t.co/9xZLYxNR1g good report by Sanger | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455293836450091008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455293156456951808 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455292354094989312 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455292033939537920 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455290488216911874 | Apr 13 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #oppression example of #cia and #nsa is now inspiring tyrannies elsewhere http://t.co/WLV4JdrjCU 'US model' spreads. | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hurriyetdailynews.com | Turkey’s intel agency to have NSA-like body - POLITICS | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? http://t.co/zcchB7SF5w ... https://t.co/x5y9t1yLzN | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? | Trevor Timm | Comment is free | theguardian.com | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joindiaspora.com | Silicon Valley co... | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: US did not arrest or harass journalists, hopefully not just out of fear of Streisand Effect http://t.co/wfaCN9M1oA http://t.co/QkrC03Uj4W | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Journalists who broke NSA story in Guardian dedicate award to Snowden | World news | theguardian.com | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.kxnet.com | 2 reporters who probed NSA surveillance back in US - KXNet.com - Bismarck/Minot/Williston/Dickinson-KXNEWS,ND | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Indian press turns #greenwald into an #apple product http://t.co/aJhX7kbPIy | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.business-standard.com | iGreenwald back in US after NSA revelations | Business Standard | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Economist Thomas Piketty's message is bleak: the gap between rich and poor threatens to destroy us" http://t.co/rYvlnaXLVs | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Capitalism simply isn't working and here are the reasons why | Will Hutton | Comment is free | The Observer | Apr 13 14:30 | |
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| msb_ | Note the use of special words that somehow induce people to turn off their humanity. "War" -- actually means attacking and invading a country that never did anything against the U.S., and murdering a million of its people. But if the govt calls it "war" then Americans accept these MILLION MURDERS as being OK. Whereas one murder makes headlines. | Apr 13 15:30 |
| msb_ | "Insurgent" actually means a person trying to defend their country against the American mass-murdering invaders. But when these defenders are labelled "insurgents", then Americans think it's great to murder them. | Apr 13 15:32 |
| msb_ | ...and torture them too. | Apr 13 15:32 |
| msb_ | The use of these propaganda words is a form of mind-control. | Apr 13 15:33 |
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| msb_ | Described by George Orwell in _1984_ (published in 1949) -- "We Have Always Been At War With Eastasia" | Apr 13 15:36 |
| Sosumi | no | Apr 13 15:38 |
| Sosumi | there are many forms of war | Apr 13 15:38 |
| Sosumi | some include slander or character assassination | Apr 13 15:39 |
| Sosumi | to economic warfare | Apr 13 15:39 |
| Sosumi | either in the form of sanctions or shipping the problem abroad | Apr 13 15:40 |
| Sosumi | kind of like US did in 2008 | Apr 13 15:40 |
| Sosumi | in shipping its problems to the euro | Apr 13 15:40 |
| Sosumi | too bad the characters upn the in frankfurt and bruxels failed to see that | Apr 13 15:41 |
| Sosumi | *up there in Frankfurt... | Apr 13 15:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455355416743272449 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455355856910303232 | Apr 13 15:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "readable, clear, innocent and straightforward as possible, and yet it must fail to perform at its apparent function" http://t.co/jgLf7v5rmL | Apr 13 15:49 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> underhanded.xcott.com | The Underhanded C Contest | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The different a space can make https://t.co/qdBl8bxP7Z | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> github.com | GIANT BUG... causing /usr to be deleted... so sorry.... issue #123, issu... · a047be8 · MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned · GitHub | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Who Pays the Price? The Human Cost of Electronics http://t.co/b2t99QhFPe #externality | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Who Pays the Price? The Human Cost of Electronics - YouTube | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #robin seggelmann "insists he has no association with intelligence agencies, and also notes that..." http://t.co/DXgpQyg6OW #cryptocalypse | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | The Big Question: When Did The NSA Know About Heartbleed? | Techdirt | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cia #nsa operation #ORCHESTRA http://t.co/vZU99Pcuh6 bringing people for #bugdoors | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3920971 | Apr 13 15:50 |
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| schestowitz | hmm.. kills it | Apr 13 15:50 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: Remember General Semantics -- *subscripting*. A single word -- "war" -- may have many uses and meanings. war1 does not equal war2. That doesn't disprove the fact that war1 is used as mind-control -- a trigger-word to make the listener turn off their humanity. | Apr 13 15:51 |
| Sosumi | heartbleed only proved two things | Apr 13 15:51 |
| Sosumi | 1, don't overwork yourself | Apr 13 15:51 |
| Sosumi | 2, you need proper quality assurance aka do the code reviewing with your head in the right place | Apr 13 15:52 |
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| Sosumi | msb_ is at it again, trigger words, yes and standardized behaviour that come from the media and movies | Apr 13 15:54 |
| Sosumi | we "all" should know that | Apr 13 15:54 |
| Sosumi | but nvm | Apr 13 15:54 |
| Sosumi | or you'll blow it out of proportion as usual | Apr 13 15:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455357883958702080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455358098153406464 | Apr 13 15:54 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: Are you saying that when I note that most Americans are mind-controlled so they don't care if their government murders two million people, that I'm "blow[ing] it out of proportion" ? | Apr 13 15:57 |
| Sosumi | ppl are so jaded right now about everything that they resort to all sorts of escapism | Apr 13 15:58 |
| Sosumi | in order to not hear abou problems any more | Apr 13 15:58 |
| Sosumi | which takes to ask you if you know why the math book committed suicide | Apr 13 15:59 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: So your explanation is not that they're being mindcontrolled but that they're "jaded"? | Apr 13 15:59 |
| Sosumi | *me | Apr 13 15:59 |
| Sosumi | because it was filled it problems | Apr 13 15:59 |
| Sosumi | same thing, most folks can take 1 or 2 crisis at the same time | Apr 13 16:00 |
| msb_ | And yet people react to a single murder reported in the news. | Apr 13 16:00 |
| Sosumi | after that, puff mind blown and they can't take it anymore | Apr 13 16:00 |
| Sosumi | and there comes your prozac and alikes | Apr 13 16:01 |
| Sosumi | no idea of what goes on amerikkkan news channels | Apr 13 16:01 |
| Sosumi | I just report it how I observe it here | Apr 13 16:01 |
| Sosumi | in lisbon or in londistan | Apr 13 16:01 |
| msb_ | Well, the main thing is that our news never describes US atrocities accurately in context. | Apr 13 16:02 |
| msb_ | It always uses lying propaganda words like "insurgent". | Apr 13 16:02 |
| msb_ | The reason is simple: The US news media are controlled by the same ultra-wealthy psychopaths that control the US government. | Apr 13 16:03 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: The Underhanded C Contest is hilarious! | Apr 13 16:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thelocal.de/20140402/german-town-passau-bans-mother-from-calling-child-wikileaks | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz | But imposing Islam on baby is OK | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz | And in the UK the most common baby name is now an ethnic cleanser who married a 9-year-old after murdering her parents | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz | insurgent is a nebulous term | Apr 13 16:28 |
| schestowitz | you might as well call insugents the additional troops that the US send to invasions | Apr 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz | and remember who's being invader; reversal of roles here: people invade by trying to chase away an invader | Apr 13 16:29 |
| Sosumi | isn't that called amarikkkan exceptionalism | Apr 13 16:35 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: America imposed Islam on Afghanistan by arming the Mujahiddeen in the 80's as a way of making trouble for the USSR. | Apr 13 16:36 |
| msb_ | Islam, and the related Judaism and Christianity, all have a genocidal psychopath deity, and all promote male-supremacy. All are harmful and should not be imposed on anyone. http://www.evilbible.com/ | Apr 13 16:38 |
| msb_ | "insurgent" is a lying propaganda word used to label people who are trying to defend their country against a mass-murdering US invasion/takeover. That's what the word is used for. | Apr 13 16:40 |
| Sosumi | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY2Mjc | Apr 13 16:47 |
| Sosumi | "The GNOME Foundation Is Running Short On Money" | Apr 13 16:47 |
| Sosumi | gnome 3 is awesome, not | Apr 13 16:49 |
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| schestowitz | Sosumi: see the reason | Apr 13 17:14 |
| schestowitz | promotion of feminism is not cheap | Apr 13 17:14 |
| schestowitz | equality does not, IMHO, require PR | Apr 13 17:14 |
| schestowitz | and Karen Sandler recently stepped down | Apr 13 17:14 |
| schestowitz | she went back to SFLC | Apr 13 17:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455370228877504512 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455369176417579008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455368771554009088 | Apr 13 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The British army doesn’t want you to know what it did in Afghanistan http://t.co/irZF1Fs3aV http://t.co/0Ag3n0XmQf http://t.co/IEnLLUncaV | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.salon.com | The British army doesn’t want you to know what it did in Afghanistan - Salon.com | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk | MoD accused over Afghanistan book - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | Second army officer quits to reveal ‘human cost of Afghanistan’ - Home News - UK - The Independent | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "The UK authorities are trying to block their own report on Afghanistan." http://t.co/touI57HHHA #uk #censorship | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mintpressnews.com | The British Army Doesn’t Want You To Read This Book | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Wikileaks case: Chelsea Manning's appeals lawyer calls soldier's 35-year sentence excessive http://t.co/fLkAsSsMET 35 years proportional | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theprovince.com | Wikileaks case: Chelsea Manning's appeals lawyer calls soldier's 35-year sentence excessive | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455366097899126786 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455365446603386881 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455364965969698816 | Apr 13 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Patents allowed to impose a religion on a baby, but it's a name that the government deems "harmful" http://t.co/reHm6vUz0R | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | Parents banned from naming baby WikiLeaks after officials ruled it was potentially harmful - Europe - World - The Independent | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: German government denies a name http://t.co/od1HfJh1ZC US government had no issue with "Google" (surveillance company) | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> globalnews.ca | No, you can’t name your son WikiLeaks – and other bizarre baby names | Globalnews.ca | Apr 13 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #WikiLeaks Unveils #NETmundial 2014: 23 Governments Draft Agreement On 'The Future Of Internet' http://t.co/FOXHAUEjlW #security | Apr 13 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ibtimes.com | WikiLeaks Unveils NETmundial 2014: 23 Governments Draft Agreement On 'The Future Of Internet' | Apr 13 17:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455364132452458496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455363855389310976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455362311147241473 | Apr 13 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: DOJ Seeks Dismissal of Case Challenging NDAA Indefinite Detention http://t.co/h0jneNtbor #cia #torture for #us citizens also | Apr 13 17:17 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Al-Qaeda and #cia fighting common enemies http://t.co/Fh1Rax8Rne | Apr 13 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenewamerican.com | American-Backed Syrian Rebels Don't Mind Al-Qaeda Cohorts | Apr 13 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Thinking of Trying Linux Mint 16 Cinnemon on Old Systems http://t.co/Da0JbjXD29 #linuxmint #gnu #linux | Apr 13 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techspot.com | Thinking of Trying Linux Mint 16 Cinnemon on Old Systems - TechSpot Forums | Apr 13 17:17 | |
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| Sosumi | I didn't know that something like an equal rights for male and female devs required money | Apr 13 17:26 |
| Sosumi | like putting some PR stuff on their website like "everyone is welcome to contribute" | Apr 13 17:27 |
| Sosumi | doesn't seem like a money pit | Apr 13 17:27 |
| Sosumi | now if they misused the funds well, the ppl who did so must be held accountable | Apr 13 17:28 |
| Sosumi | but as for me, I'd just let gnome go | Apr 13 17:28 |
| schestowitz | doesn't red hat sponsor it? | Apr 13 17:35 |
| Sosumi | they do | Apr 13 17:36 |
| Sosumi | but I'd rather prefer that they didn't | Apr 13 17:36 |
| Sosumi | and instead supported mate or enlightenment or windowmaker | Apr 13 17:37 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/samsungs-cancer-stricken-workers-are-focus-of-new-debate-in-south-korea/ | Apr 13 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Samsung’s cancer-stricken workers are focus of fresh debate in South Korea | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h2kkb ] | Apr 13 17:44 | |
| cubezzz | write your own wm | Apr 13 17:50 |
| cubezzz | pick the toolkit you like... | Apr 13 17:51 |
| Sosumi | no time | Apr 13 17:51 |
| cubezzz | modern jwm compiles in 30 secs or less :) | Apr 13 18:11 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz, you there? | Apr 13 18:14 |
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| roy_ | sebsebseb: | Apr 13 21:18 |
| sebsebseb | roy_: | Apr 13 21:20 |
| _Goblin | What an interesting episode.....great stuff Roy...look forward to hearing it. | Apr 13 21:32 |
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| Sosumi | more news about the hypephone | Apr 13 22:08 |
| Sosumi | aside from the thiner design and a new cpu (so they say) | Apr 13 22:08 |
| Sosumi | it'll still keep the paltry 1 GB ram | Apr 13 22:08 |
| Sosumi | which is laughable at best | Apr 13 22:09 |
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| MinceR | not as laughable as the OS | Apr 13 22:09 |
| Sosumi | and no details about the next iteration of the lsdOS | Apr 13 22:10 |
| Sosumi | but the samsung fork of android doesn't seem that great either | Apr 13 22:16 |
| Sosumi | compared to the lsdOS | Apr 13 22:17 |
| Sosumi | one is lacking | Apr 13 22:17 |
| Sosumi | the other is bloated | Apr 13 22:17 |
| MinceR | my phone can handle that bloat :> | Apr 13 22:19 |
| Sosumi | which phone do you have? | Apr 13 22:19 |
| MinceR | samsung galaxy note ii lte | Apr 13 22:20 |
| Sosumi | has samsung already released the kitkat update for it? | Apr 13 22:21 |
| MinceR | dunno | Apr 13 22:23 |
| cubezzz | you'll be pleased to hear I don't own a hypephone :) | Apr 13 23:24 |
| MinceR | gn | Apr 13 23:53 |
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| Sosumi | mornings | Apr 14 06:25 |
| Sosumi | cubezzz, judging you, I bet you're still using a motorola dynatac | Apr 14 06:28 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 14 06:28 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Apr 14 09:24 |
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| msb_ | Hi MinceR! | Apr 14 09:38 |
| msb_ | MinceR: If you're there, I think there's a simple set of economic concepts that we could both agree on, and thereby stop fighting with each other, bringing up the past, and telling each other to go live somewhere. If you're there, I'll lay it out. | Apr 14 09:47 |
| MinceR | i'm here | Apr 14 09:49 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: OK, first some (alternative) sociology. There are two types of society -- Partnership and Dominator. In partnership societies everyone has fairly equivalent social standing, and they treat each other as they themselves would want to be treated. In dominator societies, there is substantial stratification in wealth and power, with those at the top exploiting those below. | Apr 14 10:14 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: These terms are used in the seminal book _The Chalice and the Blade_, by Riane Eisler. Essential reading! | Apr 14 10:15 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Dominator systems are run by psychopaths. | Apr 14 10:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Now to economics. Capitalism and Socialism each have Partnership and Dominator versions. | Apr 14 10:17 |
| msb_ | MinceR: For capitalism, and example of a partnership system would be a wonderful market I shop at. Every morning their trucks go to farms and farmers' markets and buy vegetables, bring them back to the urban market, and sell them cheaper than supermarkets -- often half the price. | Apr 14 10:19 |
| msb_ | MinceR: For dominator capitalism, an example is the US corporate/government system, which utilizes mass murder (millions of victims) for profit. 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, ... | Apr 14 10:21 |
| msb_ | MinceR: For partnership socialism, there's Nicaragua, which has a democratically elected socialist government, and sharing of resources such as agricultural equipment. For dominator socialism, there was Stalinist USSR. | Apr 14 10:23 |
| msb_ | MinceR's name is greyed out in the nick list. I hope he can scroll back when he returns. | Apr 14 10:24 |
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| Sosumi | msb_ again | Apr 14 10:47 |
| Sosumi | blowing everything out of proportion | Apr 14 10:47 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: Please clarify. | Apr 14 10:48 |
| MinceR | msb_: i'm processing it | Apr 14 10:49 |
| MinceR | msb_: the theory seems to make sense; i'm not sure about Nicaragua (or whether "partnership socialism" was ever implemented) | Apr 14 10:51 |
| MinceR | msb_: i'm looking up the book | Apr 14 10:51 |
| MinceR | maybe i'll rea dit | Apr 14 10:53 |
| MinceR | s/ d/d / | Apr 14 10:54 |
| MinceR | also, i'd say dominator capitalism occurs when the free market is distorted by market actors or the state, and/or when the state is captured by business, or vice versa | Apr 14 10:57 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Here's a good page of links in Eisler's website: http://www.partnershipway.org/about-cps/foundational-concepts/creating-a-partnership-culture | Apr 14 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.partnershipway.org | Creating A Partnership Culture — Center for Partnership Studies [ http://ur1.ca/h2ran ] | Apr 14 10:58 | |
| msb_ | and this one too: http://www.partnershipway.org/about-cps/foundational-concepts | Apr 14 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.partnershipway.org | Foundational Concepts — Center for Partnership Studies [ http://ur1.ca/h2rau ] | Apr 14 10:58 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: David Korten bases his social/economic ideas on partnership/dominator (From Empire to Community) -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPiZJ5N9TkY | Apr 14 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | David Korten - The Great Turning - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h2rbs ] | Apr 14 11:01 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: That video of Korten is *really* worth watching! | Apr 14 11:03 |
| MinceR | i can't watch videos at work, though | Apr 14 11:04 |
| msb_ | Can you watch it at home? | Apr 14 11:04 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 14 11:04 |
| msb_ | Great. | Apr 14 11:04 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Beyond the two problems of capitalism that you mentioned, another occurs when technology advances to the point where only a small fraction of the population has to work at 40hr/week jobs to produce enough goods and services for everyone. We reached that point some time ago, and have filled in with make-work jobs like advertising, drug enforcement, victimless crime enforcement and large prison populations, real estate and stock speculation, etc. | Apr 14 11:08 |
| msb_ | MinceR: But actual unemployment in the US is at about 25% and rising. Unless we adopt partnership principles of sharing and equality, we're going to have a lot of homeless starving people. | Apr 14 11:10 |
| MinceR | i'm not worried about that | Apr 14 11:10 |
| MinceR | if we can do menial work with machines, we can get more rest | Apr 14 11:10 |
| MinceR | as long as the same (or greater) value is produced, why worry about wasting less time with work? | Apr 14 11:11 |
| msb_ | Yes, but how do people get money if there are not jobs for them? | Apr 14 11:11 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Apr 14 11:11 |
| MinceR | what i do know is that once we manage to eliminate scarcity, it won't matter | Apr 14 11:11 |
| MinceR | and technology will be instrumental in that | Apr 14 11:12 |
| msb_ | We can already eliminate scarcity. | Apr 14 11:12 |
| MinceR | hopefully people can gradually transition to more mental jobs in the meantime | Apr 14 11:12 |
| msb_ | 99% of the wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population. | Apr 14 11:12 |
| msb_ | If it were spread around better, there'd be no scarcity. | Apr 14 11:12 |
| msb_ | There aren't enough mental jobs to soak up the unemployed. | Apr 14 11:13 |
| msb_ | Not nearly enough. | Apr 14 11:13 |
| MinceR | competition is pretty lacking in several markets, more jobs could be created there | Apr 14 11:14 |
| msb_ | In the limiting case, machines will provide all goods and services. But no one will have a job or money, so they won't be able to buy any. | Apr 14 11:14 |
| msb_ | Competition is just another kind of make-work. | Apr 14 11:14 |
| MinceR | except it's useful | Apr 14 11:15 |
| msb_ | Lots of different car companies doing the same R&D. It's a waste of effort. | Apr 14 11:15 |
| MinceR | without scarcity, nobody will need to buy anything | Apr 14 11:15 |
| MinceR | not necessarily the same R&D | Apr 14 11:15 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of different paths | Apr 14 11:15 |
| msb_ | But in capitalism, someone always owns the machines, and will require payment for their products. | Apr 14 11:16 |
| msb_ | Ownership of the producing machines in common, and free access to their products is ...Socialism! | Apr 14 11:16 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if those concepts have meaning when there's no scarcity | Apr 14 11:17 |
| msb_ | But what does "no scarcity" mean? Who owns the machines that creates the goods and services? | Apr 14 11:19 |
| msb_ | creates--> create | Apr 14 11:19 |
| MinceR | everyone could own a swarm of nanobots that could be used to build the tools that are needed | Apr 14 11:21 |
| MinceR | for example | Apr 14 11:21 |
| msb_ | If the richest 1% didn't suck up 99% of the wealth now, we could all work 16hrs/week and have plenty. | Apr 14 11:21 |
| MinceR | it could even be part of their body | Apr 14 11:21 |
| msb_ | Nanobots are in the far future. What we have now is computer-controlled robotic machines. They can produce almost everything we need, but if they are owned by capitalists, no one will have a job to get money to buy the machines' products. | Apr 14 11:23 |
| msb_ | Nanobots are also very dangerous -- the "gray goo" problem. | Apr 14 11:24 |
| msb_ | A little programming error, and the whole planet is consumed. | Apr 14 11:24 |
| MinceR | don't let microsoft and apple program them, then | Apr 14 11:25 |
| msb_ | Anyone will be able to program them, and some will make mistakes. | Apr 14 11:25 |
| MinceR | then we will have countermeasures | Apr 14 11:26 |
| cubezzz | someone has to fix the robots, unless you develop robots that can fix other robots | Apr 14 11:26 |
| cubezzz | Mincer :) | Apr 14 11:26 |
| msb_ | IIRC, Drexler said that everything on Earth will have to have a coating of defensive nanomachines to protect it. Every blade of grass! | Apr 14 11:27 |
| cubezzz | all those pie in the sky predictions never come true though | Apr 14 11:27 |
| msb_ | Let's hope not! | Apr 14 11:27 |
| cubezzz | no HAL 9000, no true AI | Apr 14 11:27 |
| cubezzz | a self-programming computer, laughable | Apr 14 11:28 |
| MinceR | what's laughable about that? | Apr 14 11:28 |
| msb_ | But even a stupid AI, if programmed to protect itself and connected to military resources, could take over. | Apr 14 11:28 |
| cubezzz | we got windows instead | Apr 14 11:28 |
| MinceR | windows is dying | Apr 14 11:29 |
| cubezzz | no computer can do what a human baby does | Apr 14 11:29 |
| msb_ | Asimov wrote various stories about robes that figured out how to circumvent the Three Laws! | Apr 14 11:29 |
| MinceR | a human baby might be a computer | Apr 14 11:29 |
| MinceR | and a future human baby might contain computers :> | Apr 14 11:30 |
| cubezzz | augmentation, yes | Apr 14 11:31 |
| cubezzz | that's possible | Apr 14 11:31 |
| msb_ | A clever but immoral lawyerbot could trash the Three Laws in microseconds! | Apr 14 11:31 |
| MinceR | and human babies can exist in a universe simulated by a computer | Apr 14 11:31 |
| cubezzz | progress is happening, it's just slower than Sci-Fi predicted, much much slower | Apr 14 11:32 |
| MinceR | also, every blade of grass is already constantly fighting with pathogens on the cellular scale :> | Apr 14 11:33 |
| cubezzz | my desktop hasn't really changed much in the last 10 years | Apr 14 11:47 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/old-desktop-2005.png | Apr 14 11:47 |
| msb_ | MinceR: But those pathogens had to *evolve* their methods of attack -- very slow. Nanomachines, with nanocomputers, could simulate and evaluate attacks zillions of times faster. The poor blade of grass wouldn't have a chance without a layer of protective nanomachnes. | Apr 14 11:48 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/desktop-2014.png | Apr 14 11:49 |
| MinceR | msb_: not necessarily a layer -- the nanomachines could also be inside the blade of grass | Apr 14 11:50 |
| msb_ | And inside every food crop. Those diamond-based machines would make 'em really crunchy! | Apr 14 11:51 |
| MinceR | they could be ordered to come out | Apr 14 11:52 |
| msb_ | "Sorry, we like it here." | Apr 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | then send in the killer nanomachines | Apr 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | also, i'm not sure how much we'd need food crops once we're infused with nanomachines and quite possibly not human anymore :> | Apr 14 11:52 |
| msb_ | I believe STTOS dealt with that situation: "EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out... programming! " | Apr 14 11:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 14 11:54 |
| msb_ | If only Ruk had squeezed Kirk a little harder... | Apr 14 11:54 |
| cubezzz | mind transfer | Apr 14 11:56 |
| cubezzz | some philosophical implications there | Apr 14 11:57 |
| msb_ | STTOS and Kirk trashed every single instance of advanced technology they could find, including immortality. | Apr 14 11:57 |
| cubezzz | ok, now we will upload your mind into windows 35 | Apr 14 11:57 |
| cubezzz | uhhh, no thanks :) | Apr 14 11:57 |
| cubezzz | he didn't trash Trelane's parents | Apr 14 11:58 |
| cubezzz | not sure if that counts as tech though | Apr 14 11:58 |
| msb_ | Anyhow What Are Little Girls Made Of? was self-contradictory. Kirk's justification for destroying the bot-creation machinery was that the resulting ghost-in-the-shell had no emotions. But the "native" bots did. It could have been fixed. But no immortality for us! | Apr 14 12:01 |
| cubezzz | the Thasians were also quite advanced | Apr 14 12:01 |
| cubezzz | lots of uber-aliens in TOS | Apr 14 12:02 |
| msb_ | When Spock got happy in another ep, Kirk made some sound generator that ruined it. What a schmuck! | Apr 14 12:02 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 14 12:03 |
| cubezzz | another thing we don't really have that TOS did: computers you can talk to | Apr 14 12:03 |
| msb_ | *Working* | Apr 14 12:03 |
| MinceR | we can talk to any computer | Apr 14 12:07 |
| MinceR | not many of them listen, though :> | Apr 14 12:07 |
| cubezzz | the last big step forward was www | Apr 14 12:08 |
| msb_ | WWW/Linux/FOSS is the nervous system of the evolving World Community | Apr 14 12:19 |
| MinceR | what about IRC? :> | Apr 14 12:19 |
| msb_ | Dat's good too! | Apr 14 12:20 |
| cubezzz | IRC predates WWW :) | Apr 14 12:20 |
| cubezzz | of course Microsoft had to try and muck things up with MSNP | Apr 14 12:21 |
| MinceR | and IRCX | Apr 14 12:22 |
| msb_ | With WWW/Linux/FOSS, Cannabis, and Partnership/Eisler/Korten sociology, we can have a "soft landing" from the current fascist control system. Everybody just relax, give the fascist rulers tens of millions of dollars each if they promise not to make any more trouble.. | Apr 14 12:23 |
| cubezzz | I've found there | Apr 14 12:25 |
| cubezzz | 's another force in software beyond Embrace, Extend, Entinguish | Apr 14 12:25 |
| msb_ | Psychopaths can only survive inside a cloud of lying propaganda that hides them. But with the Web, they are entirely exposed. | Apr 14 12:25 |
| msb_ | Evolve! | Apr 14 12:26 |
| cubezzz | there's also abandonment and resurrection | Apr 14 12:26 |
| msb_ | Resurrection (1980) with Ellen Burstyn is a great movie! *Not* xtian propaganda. | Apr 14 12:27 |
| cubezzz | s/eh/ex/ | Apr 14 12:27 |
| cubezzz | s/en/ex/ :-P | Apr 14 12:28 |
| MinceR | s/En/Ex/ :> | Apr 14 12:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cool and flexible: The Linux alternative | Apr 14 13:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org | xorg | Apr 14 13:00 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cool and flexible: The Linux alternative | Tux Machines | Apr 14 13:00 | |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/04/windows-phone-8-1-review-a-magnificent-smartphone-platform/ | Apr 14 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Windows Phone 8.1 review: a magnificent smartphone platform | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h2sb9 ] | Apr 14 13:44 | |
| *cubezzz gags | Apr 14 13:45 | |
| Sosumi | but no mention of how much data the phone gathers from the user | Apr 14 13:45 |
| Sosumi | and transmits to M$ | Apr 14 13:45 |
| cubezzz | I'm having a devil of a time with this lit file :-/ | Apr 14 13:46 |
| msb_ | There's a copy of Resurrection (1980) in Usenet. Maybe the best movie ever made! | Apr 14 13:46 |
| msb_ | Or pay $20 to amazon for a disk. | Apr 14 13:47 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: What's a lit file? | Apr 14 13:47 |
| cubezzz | msb_, it's a file from Hell :) | Apr 14 13:47 |
| cubezzz | a type of ebook, microsoft only | Apr 14 13:48 |
| msb_ | Type of e-book? | Apr 14 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines With Death of Windows XP, Now Is Perfect Time | Apr 14 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Switch to Linux http://t.co/sqHYr06VPH | Apr 14 13:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | With Death of Windows XP, Now Is Perfect Time to Switch to Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 14 13:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @BigDickStallman @tuxmachines When will you peons learn? It's | Apr 14 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | called GNU/Linux, NOT Linux. | Apr 14 13:48 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @methadonna retweeted @BigDickStallman: '@tuxmachines When will you peons learn? It's called...' | Apr 14 13:48 | |
| MinceR | he has a point | Apr 14 13:49 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: Never thought I'd say this, but apparently there's a "clit" program for that. | Apr 14 13:50 |
| msb_ | google for linux "lit file" | Apr 14 13:51 |
| cubezzz | doesn't compile unfortunately | Apr 14 13:52 |
| msb_ | Probably just needs a little massaging. | Apr 14 13:54 |
| msb_ | It's just text-to-text, after all. | Apr 14 13:54 |
| cubezzz | it's encrypted | Apr 14 13:55 |
| msb_ | Ick! | Apr 14 13:55 |
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| msb_ | The lit file is encrypted? | Apr 14 13:56 |
| cubezzz | yes | Apr 14 13:56 |
| msb_ | Have to go to Redmond and beat it out of them! | Apr 14 13:56 |
| msb_ | What's the book? | Apr 14 13:56 |
| cubezzz | just a startrek book, nothing important :) | Apr 14 13:57 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, it needs libtommath.a for some reason | Apr 14 13:58 |
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| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/russian_market/status/455670226278158336 | Apr 14 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@russian_market: Oops. The acting PM of Ukraine Yatsenyuk meets the Swiss President in Kiev by Danish flag. - Time to grow up, kids! http://t.co/hdk1fh2SwU | Apr 14 14:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@russian_market: Oops. The acting PM of Ukraine Yatsenyuk meets the Swiss President in Kiev by Danish flag. - Time to grow up, kids! http://t.co/hdk1fh2SwU | Apr 14 14:31 | |
| Sosumi | lol | Apr 14 14:32 |
| Sosumi | now there's a case to yell | Apr 14 14:32 |
| Sosumi | FALSE FLAG! | Apr 14 14:32 |
| MinceR | "Definite proof that people who captured Slavyansk police department aren't russians:" | Apr 14 14:35 |
| MinceR | http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=217237&d=1397477131 | Apr 14 14:35 |
| Sosumi | are they emptying vodka bottles into the ground? | Apr 14 14:36 |
| MinceR | that's what it looks like | Apr 14 14:38 |
| Sosumi | what a crime | Apr 14 14:38 |
| MinceR | but then again, it could be just about any clear liquid | Apr 14 14:38 |
| Sosumi | well even if it was water | Apr 14 14:38 |
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| DaemonFC | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/04/13/1454215/the-gnome-foundation-is-running-out-of-money | Apr 14 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | The GNOME Foundation Is Running Out of Money - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/h2t9q ] | Apr 14 15:19 | |
| DaemonFC | The mail truck is here. | Apr 14 15:32 |
| DaemonFC | As soon as I get that modem, I can call Comcast and tell them to take theirs off of my account. :) | Apr 14 15:32 |
| Sosumi | in soviet russia, the modem gets you | Apr 14 15:49 |
| MinceR | In Soviet Russia, browser keeps tabs on YOU!! | Apr 14 15:49 |
| MinceR | In capitalism, man exploits man. In socialism, it's the other way around. | Apr 14 15:50 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 14 15:50 |
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| DaemonFC | Amazon sent me a wifi range extender instead of my cable modem. | Apr 14 16:40 |
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| DaemonFC | I called to complain, and they sent me a return label and said that they'd get me my modem shipped out by UPS overnight. | Apr 14 16:41 |
| Sosumi | and I thinking they'd deliver it by the hand of a real amazon | Apr 14 16:43 |
| Sosumi | silly me for thinking such thing... | Apr 14 16:44 |
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| abeNd-org | yea, only problem with those amazon goddesses is if you don't pass their tests, they kill you on the spot | Apr 14 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | I reviewed my Chromebook. | Apr 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | and Chrome OS | Apr 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi: It pisses me off. It's either a mispick or they have the wrong item at the picking location. | Apr 14 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | If I get another wifi range extender tomorrow, I'm going to be fuming. | Apr 14 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Arrives on April | Apr 14 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 17, Three Features to Look Forward to | Apr 14 17:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Arrives on April 17, Three Features to Look Forward to | Tux Machines | Apr 14 17:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Then there's Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Support Klingon Edition. | Apr 14 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | The Trusty Targ. | Apr 14 18:02 |
| MinceR | http://topekasnews.com/oklahoma-protesters-threaten-secdee-union-neil-degrasse-tysons-cosmos-cancelled/ | Apr 14 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-topekasnews.com | Oklahoma Protesters Threaten to "Secdee" From Union if Neil DeGrasse Tyson's Cosmos is not Cancelled - Topekas News | Apr 14 18:16 | |
| MinceR | i say let them Secdee. | Apr 14 18:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Did the GNOME Foundation spend too much money | Apr 14 18:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 21 Gets Proposals For Many More Features | Apr 14 18:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ozon OS Will Be One of the Most Beautiful Linux | Apr 14 18:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ozon OS Will Be One of the Most Beautiful Linux Distros | Tux Machines | Apr 14 18:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.2 Released With System Settings | Apr 14 18:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.2 Released With System Settings Improvements, HiDPI support And More | Tux Machines | Apr 14 18:21 | |
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| Sosumi | http://semiaccurate.com/2014/04/10/samsung-breaks-intel-xeon-ndas-press-release/ | Apr 14 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-semiaccurate.com | Samsung breaks Intel Xeon NDAs in a press release - SemiAccurate [ http://ur1.ca/h2w62 ] | Apr 14 19:15 | |
| Sosumi | justifying their ramp up for ddr4 ram | Apr 14 19:16 |
| Sosumi | tom ryan of semmiacurate | Apr 14 19:21 |
| Sosumi | This brings me to another point that I’d like to make about clutter. Windows 8 started out with a very minimalist UI that has with every update become not only more like its predecessors but also more cluttered with additional ways to complete the same basic task. Do users really need this many ways to get to the same apps and settings? More to the point though, with the impending return of the start menu we’ll have yet another way to a | Apr 14 19:21 |
| Sosumi | ccess the same apps and settings. When will users be satisfied; and more importantly when will Microsoft quit giving its users a half-dozen ways to reinvent the wheel? | Apr 14 19:21 |
| Sosumi | all true | Apr 14 19:21 |
| cubezzz | I'm still waiting for OEMs to break away from M$ | Apr 14 19:30 |
| MinceR | so am i | Apr 14 19:31 |
| cubezzz | Be was in discussions with Dell, Compaq, Micron and Hitachi | Apr 14 19:37 |
| cubezzz | only Hitachi actually shipped computers with BeOS | Apr 14 19:37 |
| cubezzz | and the story is even sadder than that | Apr 14 19:38 |
| cubezzz | Hitachi made changes to the boot loader rendering BeOS invisible to the consumer before they shipped | Apr 14 19:38 |
| cubezzz | it was the Flora Prius | Apr 14 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | I love my Chromebook. | Apr 14 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think I'm going to be buying another tablet. | Apr 14 19:39 |
| cubezzz | so it was Win98 and invisible BeOS | Apr 14 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | BeOS wasn't terribly well designed. | Apr 14 19:40 |
| MinceR | probably still a lot better designed than any m$ produc | Apr 14 19:40 |
| MinceR | t | Apr 14 19:40 |
| MinceR | it doesn't take much | Apr 14 19:41 |
| cubezzz | there's still Haiku | Apr 14 19:41 |
| cubezzz | but the point kind of was... an OEM tried to stand up to the big M and they got "visited" | Apr 14 19:41 |
| cubezzz | then the boot loader was changed | Apr 14 19:41 |
| cubezzz | this was around 1998-1999 | Apr 14 19:43 |
| cubezzz | for FREE mind you | Apr 14 19:43 |
| cubezzz | Be Corp was offering BeOS for free to OEMs | Apr 14 19:44 |
| cubezzz | seems to me the DOJ didn't kick the right butts | Apr 14 19:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DPL election is over, Lucas Nussbaum re-elected | Apr 14 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Acm9zAdJI3 | Apr 14 19:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GCC 4.9 Compiler Optimization Benchmarks For | Apr 14 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Faster Binaries http://t.co/p96Kw6tBWs | Apr 14 19:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DPL election is over, Lucas Nussbaum re-elected | Tux Machines | Apr 14 19:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 4.9 Compiler Optimization Benchmarks For Faster Binaries | Tux Machines | Apr 14 19:57 | |
| DaemonFC | I talked to my former landlord. | Apr 14 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | He said that he thinks that with my credit, I could get a mortgage at 3%. | Apr 14 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm tired of renting and having a landlord telling me who I can have over at my house, and nosy neighbors that report you if you have a guest over for more than 4 days.... | Apr 14 19:58 |
| amarsh04 | I've just had a bit of a back and forth on the ffmpeg bug tracker - there are problems compiling it under gcc-4.9.0 RC1 | Apr 14 19:59 |
| amarsh04 | as in, code compiles, but doesn't run properly | Apr 14 20:00 |
| amarsh04 | meanwhile the linux kernel has compiled and run ok under development releases of gcc-4.9 for quite a while | Apr 14 20:01 |
| cubezzz | this sums things up quite well: | Apr 14 20:02 |
| cubezzz | http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/ | Apr 14 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.birdhouse.org | He Who Controls the Bootloader [ http://ur1.ca/gdhk ] | Apr 14 20:02 | |
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| cubezzz | Sosumi, ha I just scrolled back | Apr 14 20:21 |
| cubezzz | no, I've never owned or even operated a cell phone of any kind | Apr 14 20:21 |
| cubezzz | but if I did it would be a dynatac :) | Apr 14 20:22 |
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| Sosumi | buuuuuuuu | Apr 14 20:28 |
| Sosumi | you should have a nokia 8110 instead | Apr 14 20:29 |
| Sosumi | and a pair of shades | Apr 14 20:29 |
| Sosumi | because you are that kewl | Apr 14 20:29 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 14 20:29 |
| cubezzz | I was the first one out of the Matrix :) | Apr 14 20:30 |
| cubezzz | actually it feels more like I'm older than the matrix | Apr 14 20:32 |
| Sosumi | maybe the matrix is all in your head | Apr 14 20:33 |
| Sosumi | and "we" are nothing but mere pawns at the mercy of you | Apr 14 20:33 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 14 20:34 |
| MinceR | lol nokia | Apr 14 20:34 |
| Sosumi | http://fails.net/fails/nokia-tyres.jpg | Apr 14 20:36 |
| cubezzz | minimalism, not solipsism :) | Apr 14 20:43 |
| MinceR | that's nokian now | Apr 14 20:43 |
| MinceR | and has been for a long time | Apr 14 20:44 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Apr 14 20:45 |
| Sosumi | never seen nokia tyres on sale here | Apr 14 20:45 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 14 20:45 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Apr 14 20:46 |
| Sosumi | are are your tyres treating you? | Apr 14 20:46 |
| Sosumi | *how | Apr 14 20:46 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-cleaner.jpg | Apr 14 20:48 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 14 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UK's IT security agency: Communities are key | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for standards http://t.co/ZJU3uRjxf5 | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.2 http://t.co/yW69Ic31K3 | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It Doesn't Look Like AMD Mantle Is Coming To | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux, SteamOS http://t.co/JwvriQAWLQ | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to run XP on Linux Mint with Oracle | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | VirtualBox http://t.co/DEGoWZJfOe | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Touch Version So Far | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Maxwell GPUs Light Up On | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 3.15 http://t.co/3wuzmlSceQ | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UK's IT security agency: Communities are key for standards | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) to Reach End of | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Life by the End of April http://t.co/eB3H9v65YR | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.2 | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It Doesn't Look Like AMD Mantle Is Coming To Linux, SteamOS | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to run XP on Linux Mint with Oracle VirtualBox | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced Ubuntu Touch Version So Far | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Maxwell GPUs Light Up On Linux 3.15 | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) to Reach End of Life by the End of April | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| roy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrH_zkWGIHM&feature=youtu.be4 | Apr 14 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Baby Orangutan Rickina! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h2wzq ] | Apr 14 20:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qt4 Music Player `YaRock` 0.9.66 Released With | Apr 14 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Internet Radio Stream Search, More | Apr 14 20:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RanjibDey retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced Ubuntu...' | Apr 14 20:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt4 Music Player `YaRock` 0.9.66 Released With Internet Radio Stream Search, More | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:59 | |
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| roy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhnnYv6Cx5k4 | Apr 14 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Sinkhole swallows 3 cars in Chicago - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h2x84 ] | Apr 14 21:33 | |
| roy_ | US in 2013 | Apr 14 21:33 |
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| MinceR | gn | Apr 14 22:31 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RedditUbuntu favourited 'Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced Ubuntu...' | Apr 14 22:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat announces OpenShift Marketplace | Apr 14 22:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/1rRf5gUlb6 | Apr 14 22:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/OJJBqH3ZIK | Apr 14 22:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/H8P7BZCb0A | Apr 14 22:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat announces OpenShift Marketplace | Tux Machines | Apr 14 22:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Apr 14 22:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 14 22:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 14 22:52 | |
| msb_ | cubezzz: The Matrix is very real and has been around for many centuries. Way before Bernays. JCI religion is a big part of it. But you were among those who awakened in the 20th Century. When were you born? | Apr 14 23:02 |
| msb_ | Early enough to buy a VIC-20! | Apr 14 23:04 |
| msb_ | And an Amiga. http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/Amiga.jpg | Apr 14 23:05 |
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| cubezzz | 1965 | Apr 14 23:35 |
| cubezzz | the amiga and the vic-20 still work | Apr 14 23:35 |
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| graham | hey | Apr 14 23:47 |
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| Guest90063 | anyone know how to contact the Techrights.org team? | Apr 14 23:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Spent all day helping the bf fill out job applications. | Apr 15 02:15 |
| DaemonFC | He's had a couple of calls for interviews already. | Apr 15 02:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/eoD739YU6j | Apr 15 03:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Apr 15 03:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.2 out not, ready for Linux Mint 17 | Apr 15 07:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.2 out not, ready for Linux Mint 17 | Tux Machines | Apr 15 07:22 | |
| MinceR | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cloud-to-butt-plus/apmlngnhgbnjpajelfkmabhkfapgnoai?hl=en | Apr 15 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chrome.google.com | Chrome Web Store - Cloud To Butt Plus [ http://ur1.ca/h31h4 ] | Apr 15 07:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New MakuluLinux Released and Reviewed | Apr 15 09:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux and the Post-XP Cry for Help | Apr 15 09:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New MakuluLinux Released and Reviewed | Tux Machines | Apr 15 09:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android TV box to run KitKat on quad-core | Apr 15 09:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cortex-A17 http://t.co/ub2TEup0zv | Apr 15 09:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and the Post-XP Cry for Help | Tux Machines | Apr 15 09:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android TV box to run KitKat on quad-core Cortex-A17 | Tux Machines | Apr 15 09:15 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Apr 15 09:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Hi! Did you watch that video of David Korten? | Apr 15 12:34 |
| MinceR | not yet | Apr 15 12:34 |
| msb_ | It's all about changing the story, the context, in your mind through which you see things. | Apr 15 12:36 |
| msb_ | MinceR: He's not saying people should give up their private propitty. But we should have sharing and empathy as primary values shaping our economic system so that everyone can thrive, not just those at the top and the (ever-shrinking now) middle. | Apr 15 12:39 |
| msb_ | MinceR: There's a deep, fundamental difference between families having their own home, cars, etc., and Monsanto and Microsoft having so much money that they can hurt people and buy the government, and no one can stop them. | Apr 15 12:41 |
| MinceR | i think the main problem there is that m$ is incentivized to do harm | Apr 15 12:42 |
| MinceR | and not punished | Apr 15 12:42 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Conservatives and Libertarians always point us toward families, so we conclude that, of course they should have their private property. But they point us away from the ultra-wealthy and corporations that harm people for profit with their private property. | Apr 15 12:43 |
| MinceR | what has liberalism have to do with families? | Apr 15 12:44 |
| msb_ | Psychopaths can always find ways to make a profit by harming people. Reality incentivizes them. | Apr 15 12:44 |
| msb_ | Liberalism says (or at least should say) that the economic system should help families to thrive, instead of taking 99% of the wealth and giving it to the 1% richest people, which is what we have now. | Apr 15 12:46 |
| msb_ | MinceR: If rich people were satisfied when they had enough wealth to live, or even 10 or 100 times the amount they need to live, everything would be fine, because they'd leave the rest for the non-rich. | Apr 15 12:51 |
| msb_ | MinceR: But they're never satisfied. A pigeon in a Skinner-box keeps pecking the switch until the cage fills up with food and it suffocates. But the wealthy under capitalism keep grabbing more and more until the non-wealthy 99% starve and lose their homes. | Apr 15 12:52 |
| MinceR | punishment and incapacitation disincentivizes psychopaths. | Apr 15 12:53 |
| msb_ | So how would you punish and incapacitate corporate owners who keep most of the profits for themselves instead of paying most of it to their workers as wages? | Apr 15 12:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Even though the corporate owners say that the profits belong to them as "private property" because they own the corporations. | Apr 15 12:56 |
| msb_ | MinceR: That's how the "private propery" concept causes harm when it's extended to the realm of great wealth. | Apr 15 12:58 |
| MinceR | that's when the corporate veil needs to be pierced. | Apr 15 13:01 |
| cubezzz | well one way to share the wealth is to buy shares | Apr 15 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Slick Ubuntu Mobile OS previewed again, but | Apr 15 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | we’re still waiting for a release date | Apr 15 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aEvq4UR4fL | Apr 15 13:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS LXDE 2014.04 Is a Light and Poweful | Apr 15 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Distribution http://t.co/sQRpkr7mQ0 | Apr 15 13:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slick Ubuntu Mobile OS previewed again, but we’re still waiting for a release date | Tux Machines | Apr 15 13:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS LXDE 2014.04 Is a Light and Poweful Linux Distribution | Tux Machines | Apr 15 13:22 | |
| cubezzz | e.g. in 2003 I bought some red hat shares, I shared in the wealth of the company | Apr 15 13:22 |
| cubezzz | of course you need some money to get started | Apr 15 13:24 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: But once the corporate veil is pierced, what's the next step? If the main crime being committed by corporate owners is paying the workers too little and keeping too much for themselves, how do you fix that within the current rules/framework of capitalism? | Apr 15 13:32 |
| MinceR | that doesn't seem to be the main crime in the case you quoted | Apr 15 13:32 |
| MinceR | also, i see no reason why workers should be stuck with microsoft, other than microsoft making it difficult or impossible for competitors to exist and operate | Apr 15 13:33 |
| msb_ | That's the main crime in general! | Apr 15 13:33 |
| msb_ | That's why 1% of the population has 99% of the wealth, and the other 99% of the people have to make do on a total of 1%. | Apr 15 13:34 |
| msb_ | That's a wealth ratio of 10,000 to 1 ! | Apr 15 13:38 |
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| cubezzz | this is old but still interesting: | Apr 15 13:58 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/storming-castle-redmond.jpg | Apr 15 13:58 |
| cubezzz | I declare victory over Encarta :) | Apr 15 14:00 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 15 14:02 |
| cubezzz | some stats say that IE is less than 25% now, a huge change | Apr 15 14:03 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Apr 15 14:14 |
| msb_ | Here's a picture of an annoyed penguin: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/kmfms-final.jpg | Apr 15 14:16 |
| MinceR | KMFMS is a nice site | Apr 15 14:17 |
| msb_ | Yes, that bird is slightly ticked-off. | Apr 15 14:19 |
| msb_ | KMFMS stands for Kein Mitleid Für MicroSoft. It's a German acronym meaning "no pity for Microsoft." | Apr 15 14:23 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 15 14:23 |
| msb_ | From their FAQ. | Apr 15 14:24 |
| MinceR | i've read it | Apr 15 14:24 |
| msb_ | Here's another PO'ed penguin: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/Linux_Wallpaper_Good_evening_Mr_Gates_Ill_Be_Your_Server_01.jpg | Apr 15 14:30 |
| msb_ | Does that look too dark too anyone else? I had to boost my gamma a bit to see the darker parts. | Apr 15 14:32 |
| msb_ | too-->to | Apr 15 14:32 |
| msb_ | e.g., his face | Apr 15 14:33 |
| MinceR | looks fine here | Apr 15 14:33 |
| cubezzz | haha | Apr 15 14:36 |
| cubezzz | there should be a tooth flying out of his mouth to complete the effect | Apr 15 14:36 |
| cubezzz | yeah no kidding no pity | Apr 15 14:38 |
| cubezzz | no pity for stealing PDP-10 computer time | Apr 15 14:38 |
| msb_ | I like this one a little better: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/Linux_Wallpaper_Good_evening_Mr_Gates_Ill_Be_Your_Server_01G2A.jpg | Apr 15 14:42 |
| cubezzz | you lose contrast by boosting the gamma too much | Apr 15 14:43 |
| msb_ | My settings are such that the KMFMS pic looks fine, but this one needs gamma=2 | Apr 15 14:44 |
| msb_ | No wonder people need $2000 photometry setups to get this right. | Apr 15 14:45 |
| cubezzz | folks are way too pedestrian in their choices of operating systems | Apr 15 14:46 |
| cubezzz | back in the 80s we really did have more choices | Apr 15 14:46 |
| cubezzz | there was Apple, Atari, Commodore, and Tandy (probably other ones I've forgotten) | Apr 15 14:47 |
| msb_ | Back then most computer users were knowledgeable about computers. Now everybody has one, and very few know much about them. | Apr 15 14:48 |
| msb_ | Those who do use Linux, of course. | Apr 15 14:48 |
| msb_ | Anyhow, I'm using the settings that make most movies look right, and it needs gamma 2 on the server pic. | Apr 15 14:50 |
| cubezzz | this is a list of what I actually use: | Apr 15 14:51 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.or/other/os-usage-list.txt | Apr 15 14:51 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/os-usage-list.txt | Apr 15 14:51 |
| msb_ | OMG is that the Brain From Planet AROS? | Apr 15 14:52 |
| MinceR | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aEwQmqK_460sa.gif | Apr 15 14:53 |
| cubezzz | haha | Apr 15 14:54 |
| cubezzz | that was Arous, not Aros :) | Apr 15 14:55 |
| cubezzz | AROS is an open source version of AmigaDos 3.1 | Apr 15 14:56 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Wow, that is one seriously weird gif file! | Apr 15 15:06 |
| msb_ | I wanted to single-step it. mplayer wouldn't play it (no surprise). I fed it to xv, which gave about 400 error messages and wouldn't quit! When I deleted each one it put up another, and when I switched to another desktop it came back and put the error message under the mouse pointer. I wanted to type killall xv but I couldn't. Eventually it ran down and quit. Gwenview (and firefox) display it, but I don't know how to make either one pause. | Apr 15 15:10 |
| msb_ | On another topic, I hope everyone has seen the movie Antitrust (2001). If not, there's a good copy of it in that naughty place right now. | Apr 15 15:12 |
| cubezzz | the gimp might be able to single step an animated gif | Apr 15 15:13 |
| MinceR | i just watched it in firefox :> | Apr 15 15:15 |
| msb_ | Sure, it plays fine in firefox. A great work of art! but it goes by too fast to see some of the details. | Apr 15 15:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Or do you mean Antitrust? | Apr 15 15:16 |
| MinceR | the gif | Apr 15 15:17 |
| MinceR | i did have to go through a few cycles to see some of the details, though | Apr 15 15:17 |
| msb_ | Pretty wild! | Apr 15 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | 2 secs · | Apr 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | Someone told me something that I found to be disturbing a couple of days ago. | Apr 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | The school systems in Indiana are not just wasting taxpayer dollars on Crapple iBads anymore. They're forcing parents, even poor ones, to pay full price for these malicious, proprietary, user-subjugating devices. | Apr 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | To add insult to injury, the schools *could* buy Chromebooks for $150 each that do everything the iBad can and more, which shows how wasteful their buying practices are. | Apr 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | Crapple takes the money from the government contracts, and uses some of it to turn around and buy our elections, making sure that politicians force parents and taxpayers to buy more Crapple iCrap later on. | Apr 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | 2 secs · | Apr 15 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | Then, while all this expensive Crapple iCrap is being "procured", I got a letter in the mail the other day from Dan Leonard, telling us how frugal the Indiana Politburo Republicans are being with our money. | Apr 15 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | There's nothing like fascism that comes back and pisses on you while it's telling you that it's raining. | Apr 15 15:34 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 15 15:35 |
| msb_ | The IPud doesn't have a real keyboard, so it's pretty tedious to *originate* content. Tablets are designed for consumption of content, and users should keep their mouths shut. | Apr 15 15:42 |
| msb_ | When tablets become fully voice-operated, users will be called Eloi. | Apr 15 15:47 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 15 15:47 |
| MinceR | there's some convergence between tablet computers and laptops | Apr 15 15:47 |
| msb_ | And you know what that makes us... | Apr 15 15:47 |
| msb_ | We don't *have* to eat them, though. Yuck. | Apr 15 15:48 |
| cubezzz | anyone remember these: | Apr 15 15:49 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/wrist-terminal.jpg | Apr 15 15:49 |
| msb_ | It needs a real keyboard, and a good-sized screen. If it has some extras from tablets too, that | Apr 15 15:49 |
| msb_ | 's fine. | Apr 15 15:49 |
| msb_ | I remember the Dick Tracy wrist radio from the funnies. | Apr 15 15:51 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: what did those things actually do? | Apr 15 15:51 |
| cubezzz | msb_, it can interface with serial devices | Apr 15 15:52 |
| cubezzz | e.g. Commodore 64, Apple II, Tandy Color Computer, etc | Apr 15 15:53 |
| msb_ | Did it have a DB-25 to nano-phone-plug adapter? | Apr 15 15:54 |
| msb_ | Do you have one? | Apr 15 15:55 |
| cubezzz | alas, no | Apr 15 15:55 |
| cubezzz | this will explain it a bit more: | Apr 15 15:56 |
| msb_ | Darn, you could port Linux to it. | Apr 15 15:56 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/wrist-terminal-ad.jpg | Apr 15 15:56 |
| cubezzz | pretty neat for 1984 | Apr 15 15:57 |
| cubezzz | I didn't even know about those back then | Apr 15 15:58 |
| msb_ | THat wasn't from Mad Magazine? | Apr 15 15:58 |
| cubezzz | Home Computing Weekly | Apr 15 15:58 |
| msb_ | Maybe our planet was bombarded by a swarm of Strange Particles. But when? | Apr 15 16:01 |
| msb_ | Things have always been pretty strange here. | Apr 15 16:01 |
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| cubezzz | original price: £50 | Apr 15 16:02 |
| cubezzz | msb_, it definitely existed | Apr 15 16:04 |
| msb_ | I want a wrist Turing Machine! | Apr 15 16:04 |
| cubezzz | there's the Pebble... | Apr 15 16:04 |
| cubezzz | lots of smartwatches nowadays | Apr 15 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | So, Amazon is making a phone now? | Apr 15 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | Fire Phone? | Apr 15 16:06 |
| cubezzz | Actually the Pebble was a kickstarter project that did very well | Apr 15 16:06 |
| msb_ | Who here has seen Ghost In The Shell? | Apr 15 16:07 |
| msb_ | Now showing Sunday mornings on the Cartoon Network. | Apr 15 16:08 |
| msb_ | Wow, there's a new series GITS Arise. | Apr 15 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines TrueCrypt audit finds “no evidence of | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | backdoors” or malicious code | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gB79W7J4Tj | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36lo | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Starts Talking About Convergence and | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 14.10 Features http://t.co/K52cP4kIci | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36lp | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell unloads slew of datacenter upgrades, teams | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Red Hat on OpenStack | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/uMNmS6HGCl | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36lq | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BitTorrent Client FrostWire 5.7.2 Finally | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings uTP Support http://t.co/2SoDfbv7fo | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36lr | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Results Of Optimizing Radeon's VRAM | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Behavior http://t.co/q6wlpdDO0r | Apr 15 16:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TrueCrypt audit finds “no evidence of backdoors” or malicious code | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Starts Talking About Convergence and Ubuntu 14.10 Features | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell unloads slew of datacenter upgrades, teams with Red Hat on OpenStack | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BitTorrent Client FrostWire 5.7.2 Finally Brings uTP Support | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Results Of Optimizing Radeon's VRAM Behavior | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samba 4.0.17 Launches with Multiple Fixes | Apr 15 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bNClju912k | Apr 15 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36ml | Apr 15 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samba 4.0.17 Launches with Multiple Fixes | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Efl and Elementary 1.9.3 and Enlightenment | Apr 15 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 0.18.7 release http://t.co/cLfhiESQFh | Apr 15 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36mq | Apr 15 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Efl and Elementary 1.9.3 and Enlightenment 0.18.7 release | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:43 | |
| gde33 | http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/801568/?autoplay=true | Apr 15 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebaumsworld.com | Idiocracy - Video [ http://ur1.ca/h36s7 ] | Apr 15 17:06 | |
| cubezzz | another choice in FOSS operating systems: | Apr 15 17:55 |
| cubezzz | http://freertos.org | Apr 15 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freertos.org | FreeRTOS - Market leading RTOS (Real Time Operating System) for embedded systems with Internet of Things extensions | Apr 15 17:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BitTorrent Client FrostWire 5.7.2 Finally | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Brings uTP Support http://t.co/2SoDfbv7fo | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @_Goblin | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fg | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNU/Linux in India http://t.co/fQ15y51ff6 | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fh | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No, the iPhone 6 is not going to demolish | Apr 15 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/qRqpI2yg7A | Apr 15 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fi | Apr 15 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Live from the Summit: All hands on cloud with | Apr 15 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat CEO http://t.co/gUxHfiiIKd | Apr 15 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fj | Apr 15 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More evidence that the Linux wars have moved to | Apr 15 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStack http://t.co/xoJ5ynD2GF | Apr 15 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fk | Apr 15 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 21 To Evaluate Remote Journal Logging, | Apr 15 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 64-bit ARM Emulation http://t.co/9Yey6uTrRb | Apr 15 18:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fl | Apr 15 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux in India | Tux Machines | Apr 15 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No, the iPhone 6 is not going to demolish Android | Tux Machines | Apr 15 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Live from the Summit: All hands on cloud with Red Hat CEO | Tux Machines | Apr 15 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More evidence that the Linux wars have moved to OpenStack | Tux Machines | Apr 15 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 21 To Evaluate Remote Journal Logging, 64-bit ARM Emulation | Tux Machines | Apr 15 18:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2014.04 Officially Released, Is Based | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on KDE 4.12.3 and Linux Kernel 3.12.16 | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jGRRZmjKOP | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h383p | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Releases An AutoFDO Converter For Perf | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | In LLVM http://t.co/3K4KKMEb0A | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h383q | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux is about to take over the desktop but not | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | like you think it will http://t.co/37aiNlpNDu | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h383r | Apr 15 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS 2014.04 Officially Released, Is Based on KDE 4.12.3 and Linux Kernel 3.12.16 | Tux Machines | Apr 15 20:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Releases An AutoFDO Converter For Perf In LLVM | Tux Machines | Apr 15 20:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux is about to take over the desktop but not like you think it will | Tux Machines | Apr 15 20:46 | |
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| cubezzz | I think some of the chromebooks come with seabios now | Apr 15 21:13 |
| cubezzz | that could mean that the chromebook is pretty close to 100% FOSS | Apr 15 21:15 |
| cubezzz | folks are installing Arch Linux on the Acer C720 | Apr 15 21:16 |
| cubezzz | it has to be enabled but it doesn't look hard to do | Apr 15 21:16 |
| Sosumi | http://techpinions.com/say-goodbye-to-microsoft/29242 | Apr 15 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techpinions.com | Say Goodbye To Microsoft | Tech.pinions - Perspective, Insight, Analysis [ http://ur1.ca/h38b0 ] | Apr 15 21:24 | |
| Sosumi | no, no, no and NO | Apr 15 21:24 |
| Sosumi | the very definition of a M$ product is this | Apr 15 21:25 |
| Sosumi | http://daisydesk.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/100_0751.jpg | Apr 15 21:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Looking for a Windows XP Replacement? PCLinuxOS | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE 2014.04 Might Be the Answer | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cxWWPz4giM | Apr 15 21:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Source: Steam Controller will be available in | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "October or November" http://t.co/gUoAWTf7PP | Apr 15 21:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android (Linux) is creating more jobs than | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | iPhone http://t.co/6DJGlE2oBn | Apr 15 21:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Beautiful Zukitwo Theme for GNOME 3.12 Gets an | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update http://t.co/NRGD6k3GeD | Apr 15 21:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat To Bring Docker Support To Enterprise | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux And OpenShift http://t.co/lRmlNphxQQ | Apr 15 21:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Looking for a Windows XP Replacement? PCLinuxOS MATE 2014.04 Might Be the Answer | Tux Machines | Apr 15 21:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Source: Steam Controller will be available in "October or November" | Tux Machines | Apr 15 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android (Linux) is creating more jobs than iPhone | Tux Machines | Apr 15 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Beautiful Zukitwo Theme for GNOME 3.12 Gets an Update | Tux Machines | Apr 15 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat To Bring Docker Support To Enterprise Linux And OpenShift | Tux Machines | Apr 15 21:43 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu chases enterprise cloud with Server | Apr 15 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 14.04 release http://t.co/DW05D9u1nB | Apr 15 22:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS FullMonty 2014.04 Has Six Separate | Apr 15 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktops Filled with Goodies – Gallery | Apr 15 22:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/zfZp315YFt | Apr 15 22:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu chases enterprise cloud with Server 14.04 release | Tux Machines | Apr 15 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS FullMonty 2014.04 Has Six Separate Desktops Filled with Goodies – Gallery | Tux Machines | Apr 15 22:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 15 22:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/FgA8XNEk8Q | Apr 16 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 16 01:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/ovK0RvoS9W | Apr 16 01:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This Week in Techrights http://t.co/Dstyby3wTY | Apr 16 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Apr 16 01:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Week in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 16 01:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.2.2-37 Distro Features | Apr 16 02:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Updated Packages http://t.co/XmXwWYiH6e | Apr 16 02:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 release candidate | Apr 16 02:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | arrives http://t.co/fpIBvNyRyi | Apr 16 02:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.2.2-37 Distro Features Updated Packages | Tux Machines | Apr 16 02:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 release candidate arrives | Tux Machines | Apr 16 02:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux module controls micro-helicopters | Apr 16 04:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines April 2014 Project of the Month, Free Pascal | Apr 16 04:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux module controls micro-helicopters | Tux Machines | Apr 16 04:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged Android fleet computer offers 3G, GPS, | Apr 16 04:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CANbus http://t.co/ihOdQCzlSD | Apr 16 04:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | April 2014 Project of the Month, Free Pascal | Tux Machines | Apr 16 04:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged Android fleet computer offers 3G, GPS, CANbus | Tux Machines | Apr 16 04:16 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Apr 16 09:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 14 Features of Xubuntu 14.04 | Apr 16 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 14 Features of Xubuntu 14.04 | Tux Machines | Apr 16 10:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | I got my new cable modem/router. | Apr 16 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | Much nicer than Comcast's. | Apr 16 12:34 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 16 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It included a copy of the GNU General Public License. | Apr 16 12:59 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 16 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | Under system requirements, it says "Linux" is a supported operating system. | Apr 16 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | Well, now I can get rid of another one of life's little ripoffs. | Apr 16 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | Modem rental fee. | Apr 16 13:00 |
| cubezzz | I did that 10 years ago :) | Apr 16 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I was waiting for a good deal on a combination unit that supported the latest standards. | Apr 16 13:02 |
| cubezzz | how much was the rental fee? | Apr 16 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't feel like getting stuck on something that didn't support ipv6 or DOCSIS 3. | Apr 16 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | $8 a month | Apr 16 13:02 |
| cubezzz | 8 * 12 * 10 = $960 | Apr 16 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | The price for the Netgear N450 cable modem/router on Amazon fell to $99.99. | Apr 16 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | And I got 3% off for using my Amazon Visa. | Apr 16 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but up until 2012, it was only $3 a month. | Apr 16 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | Then in 2013, it was $5, and then in 2014, it is now $8. | Apr 16 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | So, basically, the rental fee is killing you now, compared to owning. | Apr 16 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | It pays for itself in 12 months, and then starts saving you money. | Apr 16 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Yeah. Over 10 years, you can rent a modem and pay for it 10 times over, or you can own it and spend the remaining $900 any way you choose. :) | Apr 16 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: You forgot tax, which in Indiana, is 7%. | Apr 16 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | So 56 cents a month in tax makes the real rental cost $8.56 a month. | Apr 16 13:08 |
| DaemonFC | $1,027.20 over 10 years, *if* they don't raise it again. | Apr 16 13:08 |
| cubezzz | $8 is a rip-off | Apr 16 13:09 |
| cubezzz | In Canada they don't even sell DSL modems in stores | Apr 16 13:11 |
| cubezzz | so I bought mind directly from Ovislink Canada | Apr 16 13:11 |
| cubezzz | s/mind/mine/ | Apr 16 13:11 |
| cubezzz | just like they don't sell DVR's that record antenna broadcasts | Apr 16 13:12 |
| cubezzz | they are all tied to Rogers and Bell | Apr 16 13:12 |
| cubezzz | I remember I called one store and they said "No one provides DSL modems except the ISP" | Apr 16 13:13 |
| cubezzz | totally false | Apr 16 13:14 |
| cubezzz | but I deal directly with a freenet so no problem there | Apr 16 13:14 |
| cubezzz | so yeah, a lot of people are getting squeezed by content providers | Apr 16 13:18 |
| msb_ | Another point to note is that even though electronics gets cheaper to produce every year, the fee we're forced to pay to content (or Internet) providers for their *usage* of electronics for our needs keeps increasing. They just gouge us more and more every year because they *can*. There's nothing stopping them. | Apr 16 13:39 |
| msb_ | That's another problem with Capitalism. The only force that pushes prices lower is competition. But in many areas there IS NO COMPETITION. In the San Francisco Bay Area, where I live, Comcast is the ONLY cable company -- mandated by law. The only competition is DSL, which is much lower speed. | Apr 16 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat 7 RC, Ubuntu 14.04 Server, and Why | Apr 16 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME http://t.co/ANUwIfmLvj | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Early Linux 3.15 Benchmarks Of Intel Core i7 + | Apr 16 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Radeon http://t.co/Kv6bahxmg9 | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Trying Out Radeon R9 290 Graphics On | Apr 16 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source http://t.co/If3JXwiLf2 | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat 7 RC, Ubuntu 14.04 Server, and Why GNOME | Tux Machines | Apr 16 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bigger BeagleBone Blacks and Thoughts on | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qt on Android: The top 5 markets | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MakuluLinux Interview: Lead Developer Jaque | Apr 16 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raymer Talks About Makulu | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Early Linux 3.15 Benchmarks Of Intel Core i7 + Radeon | Tux Machines | Apr 16 13:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trying Out Radeon R9 290 Graphics On Open-Source | Tux Machines | Apr 16 13:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bigger BeagleBone Blacks and Thoughts on Raspberry Pi’s Modulea | Tux Machines | Apr 16 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt on Android: The top 5 markets | Tux Machines | Apr 16 13:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MakuluLinux Interview: Lead Developer Jaque Raymer Talks About Makulu | Tux Machines | Apr 16 13:44 | |
| cubezzz | I don't worry too much about the speed being lower | Apr 16 13:58 |
| cubezzz | as long as I have control over input/output, e.g. one can run services | Apr 16 13:58 |
| cubezzz | in the United States it seems like it's different | Apr 16 13:59 |
| cubezzz | the Free-nets have eroded and the cable companies have taken over | Apr 16 13:59 |
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| MinceR | http://leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-bill/ | Apr 16 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-leapsecond.com | First Atomic Clock Wristwatch | Apr 16 14:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why I Switched to GNOME http://t.co/F75qbHeaUD | Apr 16 14:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google’s Project ARA Modular Phone Looks Really | Apr 16 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Amazing http://t.co/weoXcwAmR0 | Apr 16 14:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why I Switched to GNOME | Tux Machines | Apr 16 14:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google’s Project ARA Modular Phone Looks Really Amazing | Tux Machines | Apr 16 14:52 | |
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| Sosumi | google glass in one picture | Apr 16 15:20 |
| Sosumi | http://pandodaily.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/google-glasssss.jpg?w=900&h=675 | Apr 16 15:20 |
| cubezzz | I have to say kdevelop is rather voluminous, even the 3.5.10 version | Apr 16 15:28 |
| cubezzz | the executables use a lot of shared libs | Apr 16 15:30 |
| cubezzz | libkdeprint.so and libXinerama is linked | Apr 16 15:31 |
| cubezzz | kids and their new ideas | Apr 16 15:32 |
| MinceR | vim > * | Apr 16 15:36 |
| cubezzz | that's why unix v7 is so interesting | Apr 16 15:40 |
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| cubezzz | unirubik was 15436 bytes | Apr 16 15:42 |
| cubezzz | if you strip the symbols it's down to 10384 | Apr 16 15:43 |
| cubezzz | that is pretty lean | Apr 16 15:44 |
| cubezzz | ah I see now, it's for multi-headed displays | Apr 16 15:48 |
| cubezzz | Xinerama that is | Apr 16 15:48 |
| cubezzz | and it's a DEC project too | Apr 16 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google’s Project ARA Modular Phone Looks Really | Apr 16 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Amazing http://t.co/weoXcwAmR0 | Apr 16 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @_Goblin | Apr 16 15:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE 4.13 Is Being Released Today With New | Apr 16 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features http://t.co/gqiR3WHisR | Apr 16 15:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Deepin 2014 Alpha Linux Distro Will Blow You | Apr 16 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Away – Gallery http://t.co/ZQZT8lLWwO | Apr 16 15:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE 4.13 Is Being Released Today With New Features | Tux Machines | Apr 16 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin 2014 Alpha Linux Distro Will Blow You Away – Gallery | Tux Machines | Apr 16 15:49 | |
| cubezzz | check out the keyboard on this setup: | Apr 16 15:52 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/xmonad-tripleheader.jpg | Apr 16 15:53 |
| cubezzz | it looks like they have two touchpads on there | Apr 16 15:53 |
| MinceR | the wrist pads on the keyboard are not touchpads, if that's what you mean :> | Apr 16 16:00 |
| MinceR | kinesis something | Apr 16 16:00 |
| cubezzz | oh I see | Apr 16 16:01 |
| cubezzz | the keys look strange too | Apr 16 16:01 |
| MinceR | kinesis advantage [pro?] | Apr 16 16:01 |
| MinceR | looks a lot like the maltron keyboards | Apr 16 16:02 |
| cubezzz | whoa, expensive | Apr 16 16:03 |
| cubezzz | I guess they just added those wrist pads to the keyboard | Apr 16 16:05 |
| MinceR | it seems so to me | Apr 16 16:06 |
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| msb_ | It looks like the central display has leaves folded behind it. | Apr 16 16:37 |
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| msb | US pays half of now-Nazi Ukraine's Russian gas bill http://www.collapsenet.com/free-resources/collapsenet-public-access/news-alerts/item/12452-us-pays-half-of-gazproms-overdue-invoice-with-$1-billion-ukraine-loan-guarantee | Apr 16 18:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Maynard: A Lightweight Wayland Desktop | Apr 16 19:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source Code Has Fewer Defects Than | Apr 16 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proprietary Software http://t.co/tJMfOW07V7 | Apr 16 19:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First-Person Programming Game Glitchspace | Apr 16 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arrives on Steam for Linux | Apr 16 19:06 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EU countries 'prefer open specifications' | Apr 16 19:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Maynard: A Lightweight Wayland Desktop | Tux Machines | Apr 16 19:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Can Run Apps Designed for Firefox OS | Apr 16 19:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | from Firefox Marketplace http://t.co/Kw72d4g4PU | Apr 16 19:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Code Has Fewer Defects Than Proprietary Software | Tux Machines | Apr 16 19:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First-Person Programming Game Glitchspace Arrives on Steam for Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 16 19:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EU countries 'prefer open specifications' | Tux Machines | Apr 16 19:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Can Run Apps Designed for Firefox OS from Firefox Marketplace | Tux Machines | Apr 16 19:06 | |
| cubezzz | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/14/04/16/1654207/intel-pushes-into-tablet-market-pushes-away-from-microsoft | Apr 16 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.slashdot.org | Intel Pushes Into Tablet Market, Pushes Away From Microsoft - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/h3k6p ] | Apr 16 19:32 | |
| cubezzz | seems like the chromebooks are still all intel? | Apr 16 19:37 |
| MinceR | nope | Apr 16 19:37 |
| MinceR | there is at least one that's samsung exynos | Apr 16 19:38 |
| MinceR | and via probably uses their own cpu | Apr 16 19:38 |
| cubezzz | you're right, looks like HP has one too | Apr 16 19:45 |
| cubezzz | Exynos 5250 | Apr 16 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 10 Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 14.04 | Apr 16 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trusty Tahr To Get A Near Perfect Desktop | Apr 16 20:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Will Android TV kill Google’s Chromecast? | Apr 16 20:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Edward Snowden Used the Tails Linux Distro to | Apr 16 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Stay Hidden http://t.co/8Y0QJdrAr0 | Apr 16 20:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 14.04 Trusty Tahr To Get A Near Perfect Desktop | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Will Android TV kill Google’s Chromecast? | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Edward Snowden Used the Tails Linux Distro to Stay Hidden | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/ApV9p01F1h | Apr 16 20:25 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/C9vq7lqGor | Apr 16 20:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/fWtNNa7LKt | Apr 16 20:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:26 | |
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| Sosumi | reading "morals and dogma" atm | Apr 16 21:16 |
| Sosumi | and I've found on passage in the book that says what I've been saying all along | Apr 16 21:16 |
| Sosumi | about religion and cult being nothing more than an "ignorant" interpretation of the celestial plane | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | aka planets and orbits | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | We know, through a precise testimony in the ancient annals of Tsur, that the principal | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | festivity of Mal-karth, the incarnation of the Sun at the Winter Solstice, held at Tsur, was | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | called his rebirth or his awakening, and that it was celebrated by means of a pyre, on | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | which the god was supposed to regain, through the aid of fire, a new life. This festival | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | was celebrated in the month Peritius (Barith), the second day of which corresponded to | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | the 25th of December. KHUR-UM, King of Tyre, Movers says, first performed this | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | ceremony. These facts we learn from Josephus, Servius on the AEneid, and the | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | Dionysiacs of Nonnus; and through a coincidence that cannot be fortuitous, the same | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | day was at Rome the Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, the festal day of the invincible Sun. Under | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | this title, HERCULES, HAR-acles, was worshipped at Tsur. Thus, while the temple was | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | being erected, the death and resurrection of a Sun-God was annually represented at | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | Tsur, by Solomon's ally, at the winter solstice, by the pyre of MAL-KARIH, the Tsurian | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | Haracles. | Apr 16 21:18 |
| cubezzz | can you explain chocolate easter bunnies? :) | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | well, it is a fertility cult in the honor of ishtar | Apr 16 21:19 |
| Sosumi | in which everyone engaged in massive orgies | Apr 16 21:19 |
| Sosumi | since bunnies reproduce fast | Apr 16 21:19 |
| Sosumi | you get the chocolate bunny as memento from times long gone | Apr 16 21:20 |
| cubezzz | ok, but some guy must have come up with the idea of making them chocolate | Apr 16 21:20 |
| cubezzz | I mean, it's a great way to sell chocolate and all | Apr 16 21:21 |
| *Sosumi puts on his russian accent | Apr 16 21:21 | |
| Sosumi | some capitalist pig! | Apr 16 21:21 |
| Sosumi | I wouldn't mind a chocolate egg for easter | Apr 16 21:22 |
| Sosumi | but I'm allergic to chocolate | Apr 16 21:23 |
| Sosumi | :( | Apr 16 21:23 |
| cubezzz | that's some bad luck there | Apr 16 21:23 |
| Sosumi | I haven't any references in the book yet | Apr 16 21:33 |
| Sosumi | to the name of Solomon | Apr 16 21:33 |
| Sosumi | but I can say according to a theologian friend of mine | Apr 16 21:34 |
| Sosumi | that it is just the name of the sun in three difference languages | Apr 16 21:34 |
| Sosumi | sol-om-on | Apr 16 21:35 |
| schestowitz__ | Black Duck http://realbusiness.co.uk/article/26362-open-source-from-great-technology-to-greater-intelligence | Apr 16 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-realbusiness.co.uk | Real Business - Open Source: From great technology to greater intelligence [ http://ur1.ca/h3kyo ] | Apr 16 21:35 | |
| Sosumi | ever wandered why the monk chants "om" continuously? | Apr 16 21:35 |
| cubezzz | not really :) | Apr 16 21:35 |
| cubezzz | but thanks for the info | Apr 16 21:36 |
| Sosumi | it is a sun cult | Apr 16 21:36 |
| Sosumi | which at first, according from what I read in Theodicy, was an evolution of the early fire worship cults | Apr 16 21:36 |
| Sosumi | fire, sun, lighting and lightning striking a tree | Apr 16 21:37 |
| schestowitz__ | more of it http://memeburn.com/2014/04/3-top-tips-for-translating-open-source-projects/ | Apr 16 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-memeburn.com | 3 top tips for translating open source projects | memeburn [ http://ur1.ca/h3kz8 ] | Apr 16 21:37 | |
| Sosumi | and we immediately reach the whole mythology of prometeus and lucifer | Apr 16 21:38 |
| Sosumi | for some reason matches | Apr 16 21:38 |
| Sosumi | are also called luciferas | Apr 16 21:38 |
| Sosumi | interesting | Apr 16 21:41 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.sequimgazette.com/news/255514101.html | Apr 16 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sequimgazette.com | Mervin Manufacturing cuts 20 percent of staff - Sequim Gazette [ http://ur1.ca/h3l0c ] | Apr 16 21:41 | |
| Sosumi | so when I turn something "ON" that also means that I'm letting the "light" come in | Apr 16 21:42 |
| Sosumi | light as in life or as it is in the most usual cases, giving an usability to an object | Apr 16 21:43 |
| Sosumi | http://www.macrumors.com/2014/04/16/project-tango-primesense/ | Apr 16 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Google's 'Project Tango' Smartphone Uses Apple's PrimeSense Technology - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/h3l2p ] | Apr 16 21:52 | |
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| Sosumi | it isn't the headlines that matter | Apr 16 21:52 |
| Sosumi | but it appears that google also wants to map your house | Apr 16 21:53 |
| Sosumi | so that when you're a hurry, | Apr 16 21:54 |
| Sosumi | just yap "hi glass, bathroom ASAP!" | Apr 16 21:54 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 16 21:55 |
| Sosumi | switch down brain and off you go | Apr 16 21:55 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Apr 16 21:55 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: how did you get into open source? | Apr 16 21:55 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of people with their brain permanently off | Apr 16 21:55 |
| MinceR | just observe the latest hungarian election results | Apr 16 21:56 |
| Sosumi | I knew I should have gone into med school | Apr 16 21:56 |
| Sosumi | so I know put the defibrillator against the zombies heads | Apr 16 21:57 |
| Sosumi | sebsebseb, I'm not into opensource sorry | Apr 16 21:58 |
| Sosumi | opensource is bad | Apr 16 21:58 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: free software then | Apr 16 21:58 |
| Sosumi | it is like being a gynecologist without being able to have a taste | Apr 16 21:58 |
| Sosumi | I did dual boot between osx and yellow dog linux | Apr 16 21:59 |
| Sosumi | in order to test the waters | Apr 16 21:59 |
| Sosumi | and that was back in 2005 | Apr 16 21:59 |
| cubezzz | it's funny actually... I tried Linux 0.99 something | Apr 16 22:00 |
| Sosumi | I was 15 at the time and I felt like my quad powermac G5 was kind being wasted in just running osx | Apr 16 22:00 |
| Sosumi | since there was no virtualization possible, dual boot had to be the way | Apr 16 22:01 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/darkstar-0.99-x11.png | Apr 16 22:02 |
| Sosumi | xeyes! | Apr 16 22:02 |
| cubezzz | didn't stick with it | Apr 16 22:02 |
| cubezzz | but by 1995 or so you could get CDs of Linux and FreeBSD | Apr 16 22:03 |
| Sosumi | lol 1995 | Apr 16 22:04 |
| Sosumi | how old were you back then, cubezzz | Apr 16 22:08 |
| abeNd-org | oh the days of installing slackware via a customer floppy & parallel zip100 | Apr 16 22:23 |
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| MinceR | gn | Apr 16 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Councils stage open source revival | Apr 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ieG77qMZQM | Apr 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ljl | Apr 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support | Apr 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wGXbXW1TrK | Apr 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ljm | Apr 16 23:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Councils stage open source revival | Tux Machines | Apr 16 23:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support | Tux Machines | Apr 16 23:17 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source enables government business | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | continuity http://t.co/06bXSWDzjO | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3m4i | Apr 17 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source enables government business continuity | Tux Machines | Apr 17 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Mounts $100K Project Ara Dev Challenge | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wNwZExpQsP | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3m4j | Apr 17 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Mounts $100K Project Ara Dev Challenge | Tux Machines | Apr 17 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SystemRescueCd 4.2.0 Recovery Distro Now | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download http://t.co/Mj98MJo23q | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3m4k | Apr 17 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SystemRescueCd 4.2.0 Recovery Distro Now Available for Download | Tux Machines | Apr 17 01:12 | |
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| amarsh04 | http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2014/s3987161.htm | Apr 17 04:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | PM - Linc Energy facing criminal charges over alleged environmental harm 16/04/2014 [ http://ur1.ca/h3n9p ] | Apr 17 04:26 | |
| amarsh04 | ^ fracking | Apr 17 04:26 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3938947 | Apr 17 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support http://www.muktware.com/2014/04/nvidia-might-working-g-sync-linux-support/25698 | Apr 17 07:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/h3o4l ] | Apr 17 07:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Screw NV. They gave us more problems than benefits." | Apr 17 07:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux-Based Autonomous Sub Leads Malaysia | Apr 17 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Airlines Flight Search http://t.co/How3AWDBEW | Apr 17 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3p24 | Apr 17 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-Based Autonomous Sub Leads Malaysia Airlines Flight Search | Tux Machines | Apr 17 09:15 | |
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| msb | NVidia been bery bery good to me. | Apr 17 10:29 |
| Sosumi | in soviet russia, you're bery, bery good to nvidia | Apr 17 10:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Tizen smartphones now slated for 2Q | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | release http://t.co/8dcMnyOKlv | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3pqh | Apr 17 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung Tizen smartphones now slated for 2Q release | Tux Machines | Apr 17 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This is Amazon’s smartphone | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/k8iPPrCPzn | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3pqi | Apr 17 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This is Amazon’s smartphone | Tux Machines | Apr 17 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Use Tails to Avoid Prying Eyes | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/dz2X4TKhAu | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3pqj | Apr 17 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Use Tails to Avoid Prying Eyes | Tux Machines | Apr 17 11:27 | |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/still-going-strong-sony-sells-more-than-7-million-playstation-4s/ | Apr 17 11:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Still going strong: Sony sells more than 7 million PlayStation 4s | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h3pu9 ] | Apr 17 11:47 | |
| Sosumi | xbone 4.2 million | Apr 17 11:47 |
| Sosumi | still not on sale in portugal | Apr 17 11:47 |
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| Sosumi | I actually think m$ is going to fail hardly | Apr 17 13:41 |
| Sosumi | with the xbone | Apr 17 13:41 |
| Sosumi | no only the console is weaker but has no games | Apr 17 13:41 |
| Sosumi | and the major iterations of the original xbox and xbox 360 have already kind of ended | Apr 17 13:42 |
| Sosumi | aka gears of war and halo | Apr 17 13:42 |
| Sosumi | with the non bungie made halo being meh as well as with halo reach | Apr 17 13:43 |
| Sosumi | I don't even think halo reach's multiplayer even made it to mlg | Apr 17 13:43 |
| Sosumi | with ppl sticking just to halo 3 | Apr 17 13:44 |
| Sosumi | and at the end of the gen after m$ had blown all the steam on the xbox 360 | Apr 17 13:47 |
| Sosumi | the ps3 actually surpassed it | Apr 17 13:47 |
| Sosumi | while the xbox had no good exclusives at all | Apr 17 13:48 |
| Sosumi | so the ps4 doing so well is a continue of the ps3 momentum | Apr 17 13:48 |
| Sosumi | and being the superior platform | Apr 17 13:48 |
| Sosumi | games life bf4 and so on have already proved that | Apr 17 13:49 |
| schestowitz | http://www.c-span.org/video/?318889-1/nsa-surveillance-personal-privacy | Apr 17 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.c-span.org | NSA Surveillance Personal Privacy | Video | C-SPAN.org [ http://ur1.ca/h3qk7 ] | Apr 17 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | UK GOP :-) | Apr 17 13:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/eee_eff/status/456776229140439040 | Apr 17 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@eee_eff: .@schestowitz I increasingly doubt that people feel the two are mutually exclusive... | Apr 17 13:53 | |
| msb | Wiki says the PS4 runs a fork of FreeBSD, but I think that since BSD is not under GPL, the PS4 does not have to be programmable by the user and can be an "appliance" rather than a general purpose computer. Is this correct? | Apr 17 13:55 |
| Sosumi | correct | Apr 17 13:56 |
| msb | That sucks! | Apr 17 13:56 |
| Sosumi | well ofc it does | Apr 17 13:56 |
| Sosumi | just ask the game developers having to fork for a ps4 dev kit when they could instead just grab a ps4 off the shelf and start "deving" | Apr 17 13:57 |
| msb | This is why the GPL is so important, so corporate pigs can't profit off the work of the free World Community without giving back to it. | Apr 17 13:57 |
| msb | All praise to RMS! | Apr 17 13:58 |
| Sosumi | the only way that'd change would be if suddenly M$ let ppl use the xbone as a general purpose computer | Apr 17 13:58 |
| Sosumi | even if limited but as long as it could a regular desktop for home use | Apr 17 13:59 |
| msb | I'd rather use a PS4 than anything from Microshit. | Apr 17 13:59 |
| Sosumi | then sony would probably bring back the gnu/linux support | Apr 17 13:59 |
| Sosumi | that they took away when they launched the ps3 slim | Apr 17 13:59 |
| Sosumi | back in 2009 | Apr 17 14:00 |
| msb | Yeah, that was a bummer. | Apr 17 14:00 |
| Sosumi | well, you know that you still need m$ to develop for the ps3 | Apr 17 14:00 |
| msb | You'd think they would sell more of them if people could use them freely. | Apr 17 14:00 |
| Sosumi | I think it works through a visual studio plugin | Apr 17 14:01 |
| msb | Feh. If it was open and the details were known, somebody would make a module for it for Eclipse. | Apr 17 14:03 |
| msb | Last time I used an MS compiler (many years ago) you had to turn off all the optimizations or it would write severely erroneous code. | Apr 17 14:04 |
| msb | The Prime Directive is: Never use anything from Microsoft! | Apr 17 14:05 |
| msb | If you do, your soul will turn black and fall off. | Apr 17 14:06 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Apr 17 14:09 |
| Sosumi | I'm yet to try VS | Apr 17 14:09 |
| msb | Yes! This is a matter of Good vs Evil. Seriously. | Apr 17 14:09 |
| Sosumi | but from what read, ppl use intel compilers with vs | Apr 17 14:09 |
| msb | I imagine the ms compilers work now. But the company is so viciously evil that it should be completely shunned. | Apr 17 14:10 |
| msb | I haven't even updated this to include UEFI: http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html | Apr 17 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | MICROSOFT'S WAR AGAINST LINUX | Apr 17 14:11 | |
| msb | Companies like Microsoft make money by harming people. That is psychopath behavior! | Apr 17 14:12 |
| msb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqs7GJ0jdY | Apr 17 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Psychopathy in Politics and Finance - Stefan Verstappen on GRTV - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/g22oj ] | Apr 17 14:13 | |
| msb | Of course Microsoft has done a lot more harm than just attacking GNU/Linux. Selling bad software and hardware, keeping people ignorant, lying about all sorts of things, allowing virus propagation, etc. | Apr 17 14:15 |
| cubezzz | I think it's important to remember FOSS is more that just linux | Apr 17 14:23 |
| cubezzz | technically if you have the source code, the compilers/assemblers, and a working computer you have software freedom | Apr 17 14:24 |
| cubezzz | the new chromebooks even have SeaBIOS built-in, so the 16-bit BIOS itself is FOSS | Apr 17 14:25 |
| cubezzz | that's a huge improvement over what we had before | Apr 17 14:25 |
| Sosumi | what about free firmware? | Apr 17 14:25 |
| Sosumi | do you have the source code of your computer's bios? | Apr 17 14:26 |
| cubezzz | yes I do | Apr 17 14:26 |
| cubezzz | I run coreboot with seabios on two machines | Apr 17 14:26 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/coreboot-serial-output.txt | Apr 17 14:27 |
| msb | cubezzz: Wow, that is a wonderful system! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coreboot | Apr 17 14:33 |
| cubezzz | Gigabyte seems to be more FOSS friendly that most motherboard manufacturers | Apr 17 14:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | coreboot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Apr 17 14:33 | |
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| cubezzz | there's the vgabios as well | Apr 17 14:40 |
| cubezzz | video bios appeared in the EGA era | Apr 17 14:41 |
| cubezzz | i.e. the old PC bios didn't know about EGA | Apr 17 14:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/456789503252770817 | Apr 17 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz I don't think @KimDotcom needs them to have more ideas for illegal abuse ;)... | Apr 17 14:43 | |
| schestowitz | He's safe. He's white. | Apr 17 14:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/456789807734075392 | Apr 17 14:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz but I did not hear about @KimDotcom mom's house before...and I thought Germany had higher standards for due process... | Apr 17 14:44 | |
| schestowitz | I thought so too | Apr 17 14:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ralpost/status/456790616882823168 | Apr 17 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ralpost: @gnutelephony @schestowitz @KimDotcom DMCA-takedown inspired droning, where you execute your target first and investigate the facts later. | Apr 17 14:49 | |
| schestowitz | @ralpost @gnutelephony @KimDotcom with bogus DMCA request the defendant can fight back; with drones you get thoroughly demonised while dead | Apr 17 14:50 |
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| cubezzz | Microsoft tried to infiltrate the watch industry: | Apr 17 15:54 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/timex-microsoft-watch.jpg | Apr 17 15:54 |
| cubezzz | CRT sync was also possible on win95 and win98 | Apr 17 15:55 |
| cubezzz | or rather ONLY possible on win95 and win98 | Apr 17 15:55 |
| MinceR | it's like they haven't heard of serial cables | Apr 17 16:02 |
| Jibbler | http://samsungdesign.tumblr.com/ | Apr 17 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-samsungdesign.tumblr.com | Original Designs by Samsung | Apr 17 16:03 | |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/microsoft-watch-version-2.jpg | Apr 17 16:05 |
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| cubezzz | Microsoft SPOT bombed out around 2008 | Apr 17 16:07 |
| cubezzz | I never even heard about it before now | Apr 17 16:08 |
| gde33 | doesn't Net neutrality mean the internet is dominated by imbiciles? | Apr 17 16:13 |
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| Sosumi | http://recode.net/2014/04/16/marissa-mayers-secret-plan-to-get-apple-to-dump-google-and-default-to-yahoo-mobile-search/ | Apr 17 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-recode.net | Marissa Mayer’s Secret Plan to Get Apple to Dump Google and Default to Yahoo Mobile Search | Re/code [ http://ur1.ca/h3rln ] | Apr 17 16:20 | |
| Sosumi | yahoo is currently engaged with m$ | Apr 17 16:21 |
| Sosumi | and something I didn't know | Apr 17 16:21 |
| Sosumi | Siri uses bing | Apr 17 16:21 |
| Sosumi | since crapple doesn't have their own search engine | Apr 17 16:21 |
| cubezzz | ya, microsoft is always trying to take over everything | Apr 17 16:21 |
| cubezzz | there's always late to the party though | Apr 17 16:22 |
| Sosumi | and their advertisement platform isn't that great (iAd) | Apr 17 16:22 |
| cubezzz | they're | Apr 17 16:22 |
| Sosumi | I see this really happening | Apr 17 16:22 |
| Sosumi | no | Apr 17 16:23 |
| Sosumi | late to the party is always apple | Apr 17 16:23 |
| Sosumi | not m$ | Apr 17 16:23 |
| Sosumi | m$ just trails behind gnu/linux | Apr 17 16:23 |
| Sosumi | and if you want stuff not working, crappy drivers and missing features | Apr 17 16:25 |
| Sosumi | hey just get mac | Apr 17 16:25 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 17 16:25 |
| Sosumi | siemens just released their new version of NX | Apr 17 16:25 |
| Sosumi | unfortunately it is now ribbon themed | Apr 17 16:26 |
| Sosumi | but it works flawlessly on both windows and gnu/linux | Apr 17 16:27 |
| cubezzz | well I suppose there's DuckDuckGo and what was that other one | Apr 17 16:27 |
| Sosumi | but on osx it has missing features | Apr 17 16:27 |
| cubezzz | Ixquick I think | Apr 17 16:27 |
| Sosumi | I just use google, no point in bothering much | Apr 17 16:28 |
| Sosumi | since I've never had any expectation of privacy on the internet | Apr 17 16:29 |
| Sosumi | so I also don't trow it out there sensitive information nor post selfies of myself | Apr 17 16:29 |
| Sosumi | but I do expect that the information inside my HDD to remain private | Apr 17 16:29 |
| cubezzz | actually I don't mind some ads | Apr 17 16:30 |
| Sosumi | I just addblock everything | Apr 17 16:30 |
| cubezzz | if it's stuff I'm interested in | Apr 17 16:30 |
| Sosumi | not even the google ads escape | Apr 17 16:30 |
| cubezzz | it's funny, originally /usr/local/sbin or at least /sbin were supposed to be statically linked | Apr 17 18:08 |
| cubezzz | instead we have bloated dynamically linked executables | Apr 17 18:08 |
| cubezzz | openbsd doesn't do that | Apr 17 18:09 |
| cubezzz | they did do a pretty good job of reining in the bloat | Apr 17 18:09 |
| cubezzz | but nothing compares to the efficency of Unix v7 on PDP | Apr 17 18:10 |
| cubezzz | actually fc1 was kind of bloated too | Apr 17 18:15 |
| cubezzz | and to be fair the dynamically linked stuff is smaller | Apr 17 18:18 |
| cubezzz | it's just if there's stuff on another partition that gets borked you're /sbin stuff could be unuseable | Apr 17 18:18 |
| cubezzz | really none of the modern linux's are truly lightweight | Apr 17 18:21 |
| cubezzz | the only one I can think of is BL3, but it's very old | Apr 17 18:21 |
| cubezzz | even tiny core recommends 128 megs of ram | Apr 17 18:22 |
| cubezzz | folks, you deserve to see the leanest and meanest linux | Apr 17 18:42 |
| cubezzz | remember, it runs Linux with X in 16 megs of ram | Apr 17 18:43 |
| cubezzz | I spent a lot of time researching this :) | Apr 17 18:43 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/basic-linux-3-is-lean-and-mean.png | Apr 17 18:43 |
| cubezzz | ok, icewm was also possible, on a 486: | Apr 17 18:45 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-486.jpg | Apr 17 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3942483 | Apr 17 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #CIA director in #Kiev searching for missing mercenaries http://www.voltairenet.org/article183269.html #ukraine #libya #syria | Apr 17 18:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Think of the mercenaries." | Apr 17 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.voltairenet.org | CIA director in Kiev searching for missing mercenaries [ http://ur1.ca/h3sio ] | Apr 17 18:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3942557 | Apr 17 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "CIA...monitored the prisoners’ body temperatures for hypothermia as they were continuously covered with ice water" http://www.uscatholic.org/news/201404/commentary-cia-torture-report-ought-disturb-all-our-consciences-28778 | Apr 17 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.uscatholic.org | COMMENTARY: CIA torture report ought to disturb all our consciences | USCatholic.org [ http://ur1.ca/h3sir ] | Apr 17 18:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I've reposted this on other social media. Appalling report." | Apr 17 18:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3941990 | Apr 17 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember reports about #assange (AU) as #drone target? http://www.3news.co.nz/Drone-strike-that-killed-Kiwi-justified---expert/tabid/423/articleID/340460/Default.aspx http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/4/16/new-zealand-australianmenkilledinyemenstrike.html | Apr 17 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.3news.co.nz | Drone strike that killed Kiwi justified - expert - Story - NZ News - 3 News [ http://ur1.ca/h3siy ] | Apr 17 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> america.aljazeera.com | U.S. drone strike kills New Zealander, Australian in Yemen | Al Jazeera America [ http://ur1.ca/h3siz ] | Apr 17 18:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | "There's a disturbing definition of the right to kill, "They have said that they will kill Americans and harm American interests and those of their allies – of which we are one – at any opportunity." Not justiied as an imminent threat of bodily harm to a citizen, justified as any threat to American interests. If you tell people not to eat at McDonalds, are you a terrorist that deserves death regardless of the danger to innocent | Apr 17 18:48 |
| schestowitz__ | people around you?" | Apr 17 18:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3941978 | Apr 17 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "NSA’s egregious conduct has currently reached Orwellian proportions and is a serious threat to “Freedom of Thought”" http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/nsa-control/2014/04/16 | Apr 17 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> baltimorepostexaminer.com | Is the NSA out of control? - Baltimore Post-Examiner [ http://ur1.ca/h3sj4 ] | Apr 17 18:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | "The truth has hit Baltimore?!" | Apr 17 18:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3899097 | Apr 17 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Exposing the U.S. Corporate Interests Behind #Ukraine Coup http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/exposing-us-corporate-interests-behind-ukraine-putsch "economic interests of giant corporations" | Apr 17 18:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.alternet.org | Exposing the U.S. Corporate Interests Behind Ukraine Coup | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/h1qzm ] | Apr 17 18:49 | |
| schestowitz__ | "well, for you it is coup, for me it was "human right for rebellion against crminal dictator"." | Apr 17 18:49 |
| schestowitz__ | Look at the outcome of this botched coup | Apr 17 18:49 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3941108 | Apr 17 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marekjm@iliketoast.net: *In response to: [Preparing the ground for the Fedora Workstation](/posts/2c925309c2ebe661) post* The idea of adding polish and removing the sharp-and-ugly edges from the Linux ecosystem is a very noble one. However, I wouldn't say that I can agree with all things that were said in the article. However, it's hard to tell what exactly is bad with some statements being made -- for me it was more like *It's a good id | Apr 17 19:01 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | In response to: Preparing the ground for the Fedora Workstation post | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | The idea of adding polish and removing the sharp-and-ugly edges from the Linux ecosystem is a very noble one. However, I wouldn't say that I can agree with all things that were said in the article. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | However, it's hard to tell what exactly is bad with some statements being made -- for me it was more like It's a good idea, this one, but I think it lacks X/forgets about Y... | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I agree with the cherrypicking attitude when building a stable system - but the cherries should be picked by the users, shouldn't they? Why limit the choice this way when the rest of the article praises the availability of choice on the GUI-toolkit side? | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Wouldn't it be better to turn Fedora into Fedora Workstation (with more polish and optimised, presets) and make Fedora Workstation really workstation-ready? I mean, it's we developers who know what we need best - e.g. I mostly do Python and C++ library development and I need tools and environment which are radically different than, for example, those needed by a programmer who develops webapps. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I see no way for a pre-set desktop that would be good for both of us. But - I see a way for a desktop which comes bare-bones but offers advanced tools to install required programs, toolkits, GUI-environments etc. That makes a good job at helping the user manage itself and does not get in the way by saying *Hey, I'd like you do this MY WAY, otherwise it will be oh-so-hard". | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Such system is truly workstation-ready in my opinion. Let us not forget that there is there is the work part in the workstation word. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | And, last but - for me - not least, my usual rant about the focus on web applications. I have been, am and will be opposing the move to web-interface-only programs, and those who will not work without seamless access to net. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | This point of view was shaped by my personal experiences, so take not that it is a biased opinion - I have always, and in fact I still do, had bad network access. If a program requires a constant access to the Network it's a no-go for me. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I praise git (and I really mean it!) for being local-goes-global and not the other way round. It's a real blessing and an engineering excellence that despite being a tool to work over the network it needs reliable net access only for some 15 minutes to actually push local changes and pull upstream. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | And this is how people should be able to work - not worrying that they need something that is not immediately available on their local workstation. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe I am wrong, I am definitely no authority, but I think that when the real work is done webapps should take the back sits and let real desktop programs take the first spot. I do not deny their usefulness - but I consider them more as interfaces to inspect the results of work (e.g. GitHub) or as a tools for discussion (e.g. Loomio). | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Well, that were my two (actually more like twelve) cents. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/456850377909239808 | Apr 17 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz and unlike telepathy it supports otr and zrtp... | Apr 17 19:05 | |
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| Sosumi | want another example of osx being the one always behind | Apr 17 19:56 |
| Sosumi | nvidia released yesterday the production version of cuda6 | Apr 17 19:56 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile people who updated to it are seeing a major decrease in performance | Apr 17 19:57 |
| MinceR | The Trailing Edge of Technology™ | Apr 17 19:57 |
| Sosumi | while the same hardware running windows is showing the performance | Apr 17 19:57 |
| Sosumi | not mentioned that the exact same hardware benches higher on windows than it does on osx | Apr 17 19:58 |
| Sosumi | <Sosumi> while the same hardware running windows is showing the SAME performance | Apr 17 19:59 |
| Sosumi | sorry ate that word out | Apr 17 19:59 |
| MinceR | i guess they needed something to make winblows look good | Apr 17 20:00 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Apr 17 20:00 |
| Sosumi | but linux and windows are on par | Apr 17 20:00 |
| Sosumi | osx, no | Apr 17 20:00 |
| Sosumi | even open cl is up to 20% slow on osx | Apr 17 20:01 |
| Sosumi | compared to windows and linux | Apr 17 20:01 |
| Sosumi | and now you even pay through your nose for underclocked gpus | Apr 17 20:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/rIS6Y1SLJs | Apr 17 20:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Haswell Graphics Benchmarks From Linux | Apr 17 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3.15 http://t.co/44oOWRdJBC | Apr 17 20:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Officially | Apr 17 20:19 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released http://t.co/DWGj9R8BV5 | Apr 17 20:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 17 20:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Haswell Graphics Benchmarks From Linux 3.15 | Tux Machines | Apr 17 20:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Officially Released | Tux Machines | Apr 17 20:19 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NinaByzantina: Brainwashing starts early: schoolchildren from #Canada on #Ukraine. What's missing is telling https://t.co/3VV2yL7epc http://t.co/H7rm4xBwDL | Apr 17 20:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NinaByzantina: Brainwashing starts early: schoolchildren from #Canada on #Ukraine. What's missing is telling https://t.co/3VV2yL7epc http://t.co/H7rm4xBwDL | Apr 17 20:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Released, See What`s New | Apr 17 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | [Video, Screenshots] http://t.co/H9QvMSQgbj | Apr 17 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines QEMU 2.0 Released With ARM, x86 Enhancements | Apr 17 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3: It’s time to let go of the past | Apr 17 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04.4 vs. 13.10 vs. 14.04 LTS Desktop | Apr 17 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 6 “Squeeze” LTS Period Extended Until | Apr 17 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | February 2016 http://t.co/ciwp2NPuYZ | Apr 17 21:09 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve's OpenGL Debugger Now Supports Unreal 4 | Apr 17 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Engine with Linux Support | Apr 17 21:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Released, See What`s New [Video, Screenshots] | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QEMU 2.0 Released With ARM, x86 Enhancements | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3: It’s time to let go of the past | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.04.4 vs. 13.10 vs. 14.04 LTS Desktop Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 6 “Squeeze” LTS Period Extended Until February 2016 | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Valve's OpenGL Debugger Now Supports Unreal 4 Engine with Linux Support | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:10 | |
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| MinceR | o/ | Apr 17 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Choosing a license http://t.co/ekyRjBqY5n | Apr 17 21:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines WordPress 3.9 arrives with stunning editor and | Apr 17 21:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | more features http://t.co/B186TyWEJA | Apr 17 21:58 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @_Goblin retweeted @tuxmachines: 'WordPress 3.9 arrives with stunning editor and more...' | Apr 17 21:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Choosing a license | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 3.9 arrives with stunning editor and more features | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Containers Answer The Right Question | Apr 17 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iR242ve4I5 | Apr 17 22:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Now you can access Windows PCs and Macs from | Apr 17 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android devices http://t.co/TCDddy5u0J | Apr 17 22:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Is Now | Apr 17 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download http://t.co/S7dgX3pFOM | Apr 17 22:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 LTS vs. 14.04 LTS Server | Apr 17 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Benchmarks http://t.co/MlDSlk7u7X | Apr 17 22:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Has Been | Apr 17 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released and Is Ready to Replace Windows XP | Apr 17 22:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/BVc22Mncs2 | Apr 17 22:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Icehouse: New OpenStack cloud arrives | Apr 17 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Containers Answer The Right Question | Tux Machines | Apr 17 22:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/DVuQM55Lss | Apr 17 22:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now you can access Windows PCs and Macs from Android devices | Tux Machines | Apr 17 22:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Is Now Available for Download | Tux Machines | Apr 17 22:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS vs. 14.04 LTS Server Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Apr 17 22:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Has Been Released and Is Ready to Replace Windows XP | Tux Machines | Apr 17 22:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Icehouse: New OpenStack cloud arrives | Tux Machines | Apr 17 22:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LG’s golden G3 smartphone is arriving this | Apr 18 00:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Is Now | Apr 18 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Available for Download http://t.co/S7dgX3pFOM | Apr 18 00:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RanjibDey | Apr 18 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LG’s golden G3 smartphone is arriving this summer | Tux Machines | Apr 18 00:54 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS Screenshot Tour | Apr 18 07:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines | Apr 18 07:03 | |
| Sosumi | http://lh4.ggpht.com/-jEvZ92AfOgE/TqvIgI0UIDI/AAAAAAAAFM0/qlILdBc-PLU/end%252520is%252520near%252520cartoon%25255B6%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800 | Apr 18 07:20 |
| Sosumi | "the end is near" | Apr 18 07:21 |
| Sosumi | well, the end of the week :) | Apr 18 07:21 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I completly forgot about the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS release yesterday | Apr 18 07:23 |
| sebsebseb | since other stuff | Apr 18 07:24 |
| sebsebseb | ah well | Apr 18 07:24 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: altough the Ubuntu release party channel may have been fun so hmm | Apr 18 07:24 |
| Sosumi | I'm not a fan of ubuntu | Apr 18 07:24 |
| sebsebseb | altough it shows how my life has changed | Apr 18 07:24 |
| sebsebseb | years ago I would have not had much else to think about really and so going there no problem | Apr 18 07:24 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I was going to do a talk yesterday, but | Apr 18 07:25 |
| sebsebseb | un well and had travel issues and what not as well, so nope, another time instead | Apr 18 07:25 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: no I don't really like Ubuntu that much either since 2009 | Apr 18 07:26 |
| sebsebseb | ,but it's still one of the best chances at Desktop Linux going more main streame | Apr 18 07:26 |
| Sosumi | oddly enough I always have to do in order to occupy myself | Apr 18 07:26 |
| sebsebseb | to be honest I don't really care about that as much either these days really, but someone in my family is still running unsupported Windwos XP for now, which I am not happy about of course | Apr 18 07:26 |
| sebsebseb | now I just need to test a ISO for what will become Mageia 4.1 | Apr 18 07:27 |
| sebsebseb | which is meant to fix isolinux bugs, where there's issues on old hardware, and the computer won't boot up, from Live CD | Apr 18 07:27 |
| sebsebseb | CD's | Apr 18 07:27 |
| sebsebseb | and well hopefuly that will work and :) | Apr 18 07:27 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: you always have to what to occupy yourself? | Apr 18 07:27 |
| Sosumi | gym, classes, studying, readying, projects | Apr 18 07:28 |
| Sosumi | there's always stuff to do | Apr 18 07:28 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: not in my current life to be honest | Apr 18 07:29 |
| sebsebseb | ,but here and there yes | Apr 18 07:29 |
| sebsebseb | or there is stuff I could do, but don't just do. getting rid of more life junk, sorting out the driiving thorey, just two examples | Apr 18 07:29 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: to many old CD R's and what not here still | Apr 18 07:30 |
| sebsebseb | to go through and get rid of most of them | Apr 18 07:30 |
| Sosumi | I've already got rid of all my cds | Apr 18 07:30 |
| sebsebseb | CD R's | Apr 18 07:31 |
| sebsebseb | or in general | Apr 18 07:31 |
| sebsebseb | music CD's and what not to | Apr 18 07:31 |
| MinceR | http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21601004-why-europes-populists-and-radicals-admire-vladimir-putin-russias-friends-black | Apr 18 07:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.economist.com | Charlemagne: Russia’s friends in black | The Economist [ http://ur1.ca/h3w88 ] | Apr 18 07:31 | |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I'll keep the proper CD's and DVD's, but most CD R's and DVD R's will be going | Apr 18 07:31 |
| sebsebseb | including the really old blank ones I think from years ago | Apr 18 07:31 |
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| Sosumi | ho, I just my music from the piratebay | Apr 18 07:31 |
| Sosumi | *get | Apr 18 07:31 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: that's blocked in this country | Apr 18 07:31 |
| sebsebseb | by ISP's | Apr 18 07:32 |
| sebsebseb | since the goverment requested that | Apr 18 07:32 |
| Sosumi | plus most of the stuff I hear | Apr 18 07:32 |
| Sosumi | is from artists that are already dead | Apr 18 07:32 |
| Sosumi | I'm sure Tchaikovsky wouldn't mind | Apr 18 07:32 |
| sebsebseb | ok, but the record companies still want to profit off that hmm | Apr 18 07:32 |
| Sosumi | nor Ronnie Dio | Apr 18 07:33 |
| Sosumi | that is a problem | Apr 18 07:33 |
| Sosumi | once the record label stops printing the album for 3 years after the artist's death | Apr 18 07:34 |
| Sosumi | the record label should relinquish its rights | Apr 18 07:34 |
| Sosumi | just one example | Apr 18 07:34 |
| MinceR | then they'll never stop printing albums | Apr 18 07:34 |
| Sosumi | but what if ppl don't buy them | Apr 18 07:34 |
| Sosumi | they print according to demmand | Apr 18 07:35 |
| MinceR | just like how movie franchise licensees never stop making comic book movie reboots | Apr 18 07:35 |
| MinceR | so they don't lose the license | Apr 18 07:35 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: why do you say 3 years after | Apr 18 07:35 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: ? | Apr 18 07:35 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: they can keep making a very low number every 3 years | Apr 18 07:35 |
| Sosumi | good point | Apr 18 07:35 |
| Sosumi | but I just said that as an example on the spur of the moment | Apr 18 07:36 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: comic book films, yep Spider man sells | Apr 18 07:38 |
| sebsebseb | and another is out in the cinema now or soon | Apr 18 07:38 |
| Sosumi | spider pig | Apr 18 07:38 |
| sebsebseb | the hobbit sells to | Apr 18 07:38 |
| sebsebseb | and stuff like that | Apr 18 07:38 |
| Sosumi | not a fan of that stuff | Apr 18 07:38 |
| sebsebseb | no me either from what I remember of the lord of the rings movies | Apr 18 07:39 |
| sebsebseb | I haven't seen the two hobbit films | Apr 18 07:39 |
| sebsebseb | yet | Apr 18 07:39 |
| sebsebseb | however that kind of stuff is very popular around here | Apr 18 07:40 |
| Sosumi | sad | Apr 18 07:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi oh that Ubuntu GNOME one that came in on the Tuxmachines feed | Apr 18 07:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi is by schestowitz__ 's wife apparantly | Apr 18 07:44 |
| MinceR | oh really? | Apr 18 07:44 |
| sebsebseb | yep | Apr 18 07:44 |
| sebsebseb | look who it says it's by etc | Apr 18 07:44 |
| MinceR | oh, i thought you were saying Sosumi is schestowitz__'s wife | Apr 18 07:44 |
| Sosumi | lolwoot? | Apr 18 07:45 |
| MinceR | schestowitz__'s wife posting on tuxmachines is not new to me :) | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | yes Sosumi has turned into a woman over night | Apr 18 07:45 |
| MinceR | i missed the "by" | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | and he's loving it | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | being a woman | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | or uh she's even now then :d | Apr 18 07:45 |
| MinceR | probably should have got more sleep | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi likes being a woman much more than a man | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am thinking the same about sleep | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ok I slept a bit in the chari in the living room, but | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | on the | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but get a better sleep in bed, and it's a bit chilly this mornign and such to | Apr 18 07:46 |
| sebsebseb | 6 degree's c apparnatly hmm | Apr 18 07:46 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yes Sosumi is a woman now, and she's loving being one | Apr 18 07:46 |
| Sosumi | yada yada | Apr 18 07:46 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: you should have put the colon after Sosumi's nick :> | Apr 18 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android is the only hope for Intel while | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft’s market declines | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/PrX5H6ZJ6s | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wbf | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/eNNgOOLewk | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wbg | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE 4.1.3 Released, Orphan Linux, and Mint Tips | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/S2c6Hyjx1l | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wbh | Apr 18 07:48 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: MinceR oh it's just a tux machiens ink page or whatever, but mentions boht of htem | Apr 18 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android is the only hope for Intel while Microsoft’s market declines | Tux Machines | Apr 18 07:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Apr 18 07:49 | |
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| Sosumi | well, | Apr 18 07:55 |
| Sosumi | apparently I need go in order to start doing my "womanly things" | Apr 18 07:56 |
| Sosumi | До скорой встречи! | Apr 18 07:56 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh I had a link for you, but closed it | Apr 18 08:02 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: things a woam should do before she hits 30 | Apr 18 08:02 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh maybe your older than 30 | Apr 18 08:02 |
| Sosumi | *facepalm* | Apr 18 08:04 |
| Sosumi | just get one on what should russian women do before they reach 30 | Apr 18 08:15 |
| Sosumi | but I think it is time already to quit the joke | Apr 18 08:16 |
| Sosumi | and btw I'm 24 | Apr 18 08:16 |
| Sosumi | laters | Apr 18 08:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in January http://t.co/wdFnjSyoG2 | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wvs | Apr 18 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming in January | Tux Machines | Apr 18 09:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ownCloud Promotes Scalability, Efficiency of | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Private Cloud | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qvKaxG4d9l | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wvt | Apr 18 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ownCloud Promotes Scalability, Efficiency of Open Source Private Cloud | Tux Machines | Apr 18 09:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeBSD Advances For ARM, Bhyve, Clang | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/696iC3Xlom | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wvu | Apr 18 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD Advances For ARM, Bhyve, Clang | Tux Machines | Apr 18 09:09 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Apr 18 09:25 |
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| schestowitz__ | brb | Apr 18 09:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: The Good, the Bad and the | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Awesome http://t.co/BXTRhCwR2g | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygq | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Battle of the Linux clouds! Linode DOUBLES RAM | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to take on Digital Ocean http://t.co/qSlI2UJTqz | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygr | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apache OpenOffice hits major 100 million | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | downloads milestone in under 2 years | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9xjJb1lJjj | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygs | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNU/Linux on Power8 Servers | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/HXxEnCJxcZ | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygt | Apr 18 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: The Good, the Bad and the Awesome | Tux Machines | Apr 18 14:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Battle of the Linux clouds! Linode DOUBLES RAM to take on Digital Ocean | Tux Machines | Apr 18 14:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apache OpenOffice hits major 100 million downloads milestone in under 2 years | Tux Machines | Apr 18 14:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux on Power8 Servers | Tux Machines | Apr 18 14:31 | |
| schestowitz | I've just reckoned.... | Apr 18 15:06 |
| schestowitz | If 'you are what you eat", when cannibalism makes more sense that eating non-human animals | Apr 18 15:06 |
| schestowitz | So maybe the proverb is just stupid | Apr 18 15:06 |
| cubezzz | you're not what you eat | Apr 18 15:20 |
| cubezzz | you're not bits of steak and potatoes or whatever :) | Apr 18 15:20 |
| cubezzz | the body can make 13 of the 22 amino acids | Apr 18 15:21 |
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| Sosumi | well, I'm not even the same I was this morning | Apr 18 15:31 |
| Sosumi | for now many of my cell have already died and been replaced | Apr 18 15:32 |
| Sosumi | *cells | Apr 18 15:32 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 18 15:32 |
| MinceR | if 'you are what you eat' then you're all plants | Apr 18 15:33 |
| cubezzz | and we know that plants aren't dirt :) | Apr 18 15:34 |
| MinceR | do plants eat dirt? :> | Apr 18 15:35 |
| cubezzz | they take nutrients out of the soil | Apr 18 15:36 |
| MinceR | i take nutrients out of the fridge | Apr 18 15:36 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 18 15:36 |
| Sosumi | just that? | Apr 18 15:36 |
| cubezzz | some folks say there's biological transmutation | Apr 18 15:36 |
| Sosumi | don't they also do the photosynthesis | Apr 18 15:36 |
| Sosumi | so plants are not photons either | Apr 18 15:36 |
| cubezzz | definitely :) | Apr 18 15:36 |
| MinceR | or carbon dioxide | Apr 18 15:37 |
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| cubezzz | hippies and long hairs use back door? :) | Apr 18 17:14 |
| cubezzz | I'd love to know where that pic came from | Apr 18 17:14 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/pc-mac-linux-bsd.jpg | Apr 18 17:19 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/this-beard-says-pipes.jpg | Apr 18 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/uslvBnclRW | Apr 18 17:27 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Feedback "positive" on Firefox mobile OS, says | Apr 18 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla exec http://t.co/AJljsNNlY6 | Apr 18 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3zjm | Apr 18 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 18 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Opteron X Berlin runs Fedora Linux | Apr 18 17:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Om1OJc7YKG | Apr 18 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feedback "positive" on Firefox mobile OS, says Mozilla exec | Tux Machines | Apr 18 17:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3zjn | Apr 18 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Opteron X Berlin runs Fedora Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 18 17:27 | |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/and-the-problem-was-gone.jpg | Apr 18 17:27 |
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| Sosumi | https://i.4cdn.org/gif/src/1397783441921.gif | Apr 18 17:58 |
| schestowitz__ | "Source?" | Apr 18 18:12 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3947706 | Apr 18 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa #surveillance misused to go after #occupy which #fbi called "terrorism" so we know Islamic terrorism is excuse but not principal threat | Apr 18 18:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/nov/25/shocking-truth-about-crackdown-occupy | Apr 18 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Revealed: how the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gc05e ] | Apr 18 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | The shocking truth about the crackdown on Occupy | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuynk ] | Apr 18 18:12 | |
| msb | Sosumi: That gif of the little penguin is great! Amazing it can run that fast on those little legs. | Apr 18 18:14 |
| Sosumi | courtesy of some 4chan denizen | Apr 18 18:14 |
| msb | schestowitz__: Re the Naomi Wolf articles: banks and the stock exchange working with the FBI to coordinate attacks on peaceful protestors whom they labelled as "potential terrorists". When do we call it Fascism? | Apr 18 18:28 |
| msb | Newton's Second Law of Motion, published in 1687, plus the videos of the WTC towers falling, *prove* that they were destroyed by implanted explosives, which Muslim terrorists could not possibly have done. http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911 | Apr 18 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Apr 18 18:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | when it's in Italy | Apr 18 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | then it's called fascism | Apr 18 18:33 |
| schestowitz__ | insinuating that the US is nazi(ionalist) or fascist gets you lumped in with a group that will get you widely discredited | Apr 18 18:34 |
| msb | 2,000,000 people murdered and several nations destroyed using 9/11 as the excuse. Is that fascism? | Apr 18 18:34 |
| msb | What group is that? | Apr 18 18:34 |
| schestowitz__ | among them: "Paul supporter", "white supremacist", "Islamist", "conspiracy theorist", cult member (small religion/minority) | Apr 18 18:35 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3948258 | Apr 18 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Has #Banksy finally been caught on camera? http://nypost.com/2014/04/17/has-banksy-finally-been-caught-on-camera/ | Apr 18 18:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> nypost.com | Has Banksy finally been caught on camera? | New York Post [ http://ur1.ca/h407b ] | Apr 18 18:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Wow, this guy's works are awesome ..." | Apr 18 18:37 |
| msb | Fascism is control of government by corporations, and its service of their interests, often violently. | Apr 18 18:37 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3946576 | Apr 18 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming in January http://www.muktware.com/2014/04/project-ara-build-smartphone-coming-january/25829 #ara #android #linux | Apr 18 18:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming in January | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/h407m ] | Apr 18 18:37 | |
| schestowitz__ | "block phone copied or licence bought by google ?" | Apr 18 18:37 |
| schestowitz__ | msb: in my mind, fascicism is opposite, gov controls corporations | Apr 18 18:38 |
| schestowitz__ | like Russia more or less, in USSR | Apr 18 18:38 |
| schestowitz__ | "of course ... And here is how a great project is owend by google ... And here is how all of sheeps will buy it and say "Hey Google create something good" ... And once again Google wins something which that could something else than "big bro device"" | Apr 18 18:39 |
| schestowitz__ | "@Wasabi: Well, if it's open to other manufacturers then people can always undercut any overpricing. @Julien: Depends how locked down it is, if it's possible to install a differeny OS, or buy a FOSH baseboard then it might turn out ok." | Apr 18 18:39 |
| schestowitz__ | "The problem is not the OS in fact, because if it is Android, I think Cyanogen will be developed too. and maybe another OS could run on it... no, the problem is essentially hardware finally because managed by google, and driver support could be hard." | Apr 18 18:39 |
| schestowitz__ | "That's what I mean though, if the whole thing is open (like phoneblokks was supposed to be) then couldn't third parties offer open source hardware and drivers? Given the target market I'd imagine they'd be popular." | Apr 18 18:39 |
| schestowitz__ | "yes, we agree" | Apr 18 18:39 |
| msb | schestowitz__: There are many other people saying that the US is fascist other than the groups you mentioned. In fact, the phrases you mentioned are often used to unjustifiably smear honest researchers and advocates. "Conspiracy theorists" is a term invented by the government to discredit JFK assassination researchers. | Apr 18 18:39 |
| msb | "Fascism is Corporatism" -- Mussolini | Apr 18 18:42 |
| msb | Corporations and ultra-wealthy individuals totally control govt by bribery. They bribe the govt to make laws favorable to them. They bribe the govt to invade and destroy nations that have socialistic economies, so the corporations can then go into those nations and exploit the workers there. | Apr 18 18:44 |
| msb | schestowitz__: The fact that some crazy evil people say that something is true does not make it false. To say that it does is a logical fallacy. In this case, it would prevent people from realizing that the US is in fact fascist even when the soldiers are goose-stepping down the streets and shooting people. "Oh no, we can't use the word 'fascism' -- people would associate us with 'conspiracy theorists' and Ron Paul supporters." | Apr 18 18:48 |
| msb | schestowitz__: If most people are mind-controlled by lying media and government propagands, thanks to Edward Bernays -- which they are -- then censoring our ideas and speech based on what most people would think PREVENTS US FROM THINKING ACCURATELY. | Apr 18 18:51 |
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| DFS | Is Roy Spamowitz here? | Apr 18 18:52 |
| *DFS is now known as Guest36863 | Apr 18 18:52 | |
| Guest36863 | He used to spam comp.os.linux.advocacy with 35-50 NEWS posts per day | Apr 18 18:52 |
| Guest36863 | For 5 years straight | Apr 18 18:52 |
| MinceR | i'm not aware of any person called "Roy Spamowitz" | Apr 18 18:52 |
| Guest36863 | He was a degenerate liar, too. | Apr 18 18:53 |
| Guest36863 | Anyway, Spamowitz now says he's an 'advocate of fair competition' | Apr 18 18:53 |
| MinceR | how does this concern this channel? | Apr 18 18:53 |
| Guest36863 | So, when will Spamowitz begin calling for Linux to put price tags on everything? | Apr 18 18:53 |
| msb | DFS is one of the most active pro-Microsoft anti-Linux posters in comp.os.linux.advocacy. | Apr 18 18:53 |
| MinceR | somehow i suspected that | Apr 18 18:54 |
| Guest36863 | I'm not pro-MS | Apr 18 18:54 |
| Guest36863 | I don't even like them. | Apr 18 18:54 |
| Guest36863 | I like some of their software. | Apr 18 18:54 |
| msb | Apparently he posted first under the nick of "DFS", and then changed to "Guest36863". | Apr 18 18:54 |
| Guest36863 | I didn't change - the channel changed it for me. | Apr 18 18:55 |
| MinceR | he probably didn't identify for DFS | Apr 18 18:55 |
| MinceR | no, the channel did not change it | Apr 18 18:55 |
| MinceR | NickServ changed it. | Apr 18 18:55 |
| Guest36863 | So change it back. | Apr 18 18:55 |
| MinceR | it is none of our concern. | Apr 18 18:55 |
| MinceR | don't you ever read your status/server window? | Apr 18 18:55 |
| Guest36863 | It was flashing by/ jumping around | Apr 18 18:56 |
| msb | DFS routinely refers to Roy as "Spamowitz". | Apr 18 18:56 |
| Guest36863 | So, when will the 'advocate of fair competition' begin calling for price tags on Linux distros and apps? | Apr 18 18:56 |
| Guest36863 | Never, that's when. | Apr 18 18:56 |
| MinceR | why should any advocate of fair competition begin calling for that? | Apr 18 18:56 |
| Guest36863 | Extremely stupid question. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| msb | Which means that he can't answer it. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| MinceR | you'll need to adjust that attitude of yours, Guest36863. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| Guest36863 | Fair competition would require Linux distros/apps to charge similar prices as those found on commercial software products. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| MinceR | no, it would not. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| Guest36863 | Yes, it would. | Apr 18 18:58 |
| cubezzz | http://www.osdisc.com has been selling DVDs and CDs for years | Apr 18 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.osdisc.com | OSDisc.com - Buy Linux CDs and DVDs - New Releases. Low Prices. | Apr 18 18:58 | |
| MinceR | fair competition is not the same as command economy. | Apr 18 18:58 |
| Guest36863 | Giving your code away for free is extremely uncompetitive. | Apr 18 18:58 |
| MinceR | it's not exactly that, though | Apr 18 18:58 |
| Guest36863 | Funny that Linux can't even be given away. | Apr 18 18:58 |
| msb | People create GNU/Linux/FOSS out of enjoyment and generosity and therefore give it away for free. | Apr 18 18:58 |
| MinceR | users contribute in exchange for the software -- bug reports, code fixes/patches, etc. | Apr 18 18:58 |
| Guest36863 | Add a price tag and watch the howls... | Apr 18 18:58 |
| *MinceR adds a price tag saying "0" | Apr 18 18:59 | |
| *MinceR waits for the howls | Apr 18 18:59 | |
| msb | I used to buy Suse boxed sets. | Apr 18 18:59 |
| Guest36863 | But you didn't pay nearly the equivalent of the commercial code. | Apr 18 18:59 |
| MinceR | i also didn't receive the equivalent of the commercial code, thankfully | Apr 18 18:59 |
| cubezzz | you can charge for discs, manuals, etc | Apr 18 19:00 |
| MinceR | as the code you're advertising is of horribly low quality. | Apr 18 19:00 |
| cubezzz | there's no rule saying you can't | Apr 18 19:00 |
| msb | DFS has been spamming COLA for many years. He will never change his mind. He's probably paid by Microsoft. | Apr 18 19:00 |
| Guest36863 | If they create GNU/LInux/FOSS out of generosity, why do most projects ask for donations? | Apr 18 19:00 |
| Guest36863 | Only Spamowitz spammed cola with off-topic NEWS.. 5 years straight | Apr 18 19:00 |
| msb | People have found proof that Microsoft has employees posting to various FOSS forums. | Apr 18 19:01 |
| MinceR | why is news off-topic on COLA? | Apr 18 19:01 |
| Guest36863 | of 35-50 posts per day. Full of lies and deceit. | Apr 18 19:01 |
| msb | Full of great information. | Apr 18 19:01 |
| Guest36863 | If MS does have people posting to forums, so what? | Apr 18 19:01 |
| MinceR | and why do i get the suspicion that what you call "lies and deceit" were merely facts that were inconvenient to microsoft munchkins? | Apr 18 19:01 |
| msb | I wish Roy would start it again. | Apr 18 19:01 |
| Guest36863 | They ought to pay people to counter the lies of Linux idiots. | Apr 18 19:01 |
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| MinceR | no, they paid people to masquerade as grassroots support for microsoft. | Apr 18 19:02 |
| Guest36863 | So? | Apr 18 19:02 |
| MinceR | that's the "lies and deceit" you're looking for. | Apr 18 19:02 |
| cubezzz | astro turfing you mean | Apr 18 19:02 |
| Guest36863 | Who pays Linux "advocates" to lie about MS and Windows? | Apr 18 19:02 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 18 19:02 |
| MinceR | GNU/Linux advocates do not need to lie about m$ and windows, as both are atrocious enough as they are. | Apr 18 19:02 |
| msb | "If MS does have people posting to forums, so what?" The problem is that they don't SAY they work for Microsoft, and are posting to increase MS's profits. | Apr 18 19:02 |
| Guest36863 | They don't need to lie about them, but they do it anyway. | Apr 18 19:03 |
| MinceR | again, what makes this relevant to this channel? | Apr 18 19:03 |
| msb | Nothing. He'll just do it until somebody blocks him. | Apr 18 19:03 |
| Guest36863 | Anyway, my social visit was to ask Spamowitz - the 'advocate of fair competition' - why he doesn't spend years calling for Linux distros and apps to attach a reasonable price tag? | Apr 18 19:04 |
| MinceR | i believe there's no person called "Spamowitz" here | Apr 18 19:04 |
| Guest36863 | Pass the message onto him for me. Watch him run. | Apr 18 19:04 |
| MinceR | nobody of that name responded | Apr 18 19:04 |
| MinceR | looks like you're looking in the wrong place. | Apr 18 19:04 |
| msb | In a free market, people set the prices of their products as they please. | Apr 18 19:04 |
| Guest36863 | There's no M$ or 'munchkins' either. | Apr 18 19:05 |
| Guest36863 | So what are you whining about? | Apr 18 19:05 |
| MinceR | except for people like you, yes | Apr 18 19:05 |
| msb | There are other forms of income than money, such as the satisfaction of helping other people. | Apr 18 19:05 |
| Guest36863 | If that's all they're looking for, why do they ask for donations? | Apr 18 19:06 |
| msb | DFS is a psychopath and has no empathy, so he doesn't know about that. | Apr 18 19:06 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: this might be surprising to you, but despite what bill gates believes, not all software development happens solely in the interest of profits. | Apr 18 19:06 |
| Guest36863 | How would you know what Gates believes? | Apr 18 19:06 |
| MinceR | from his public letter to "hobbyists" | Apr 18 19:07 |
| MinceR | but you haven't read that either, have you? | Apr 18 19:07 |
| Guest36863 | He, MS and Windows have done so much more for the world than 'Free software' will do in 1000 lifetimes. | Apr 18 19:07 |
| MinceR | free software will indeed never do nearly so much harm as he did | Apr 18 19:07 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: so why are you advertising m$ here anyway? what's in it for you? | Apr 18 19:08 |
| MinceR | do they pay you? | Apr 18 19:08 |
| Guest36863 | So much harm that the world runs to MS throwing $80 billion a year at them. | Apr 18 19:08 |
| MinceR | or have you merely made an ill-thought investment in them and aren't willing to learn anything else? | Apr 18 19:08 |
| MinceR | yes, m$ corruption and market manipulation has led to them extorting a lot of money from people and states | Apr 18 19:08 |
| Guest36863 | Same idiocy found in the tiny brains of all FOSS wackos: "MS is paying you", "your job is threatened by Linux", blah blah | Apr 18 19:09 |
| MinceR | for example, the hungarian government pays them a lot for crap they hand to students and lie that they're gratis | Apr 18 19:09 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: you still haven't answered any questions. | Apr 18 19:09 |
| Guest36863 | What questions? | Apr 18 19:09 |
| MinceR | the ones i asked you | Apr 18 19:09 |
| msb | Microsoft has never, and probably will never, produce software that assists and augments human thought processes as effectively as GNU/Linux does. | Apr 18 19:09 |
| Guest36863 | MS isn't paying me. | Apr 18 19:09 |
| MinceR | so, cognitive dissonance, then? | Apr 18 19:10 |
| MinceR | or just plain old brain damage? | Apr 18 19:10 |
| Guest36863 | 'assists and augments human thought processes'.... BWAHA!!! | Apr 18 19:10 |
| Guest36863 | What kind of nutjobs are you people? | Apr 18 19:10 |
| MinceR | msb: i think your words are confusing his tiny mind | Apr 18 19:10 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: yes, what kind of nutjob are you? | Apr 18 19:10 |
| msb | " <Guest36863> If MS does have people posting to forums, so what?" | Apr 18 19:11 |
| Guest36863 | Hey, I bet both you dunces (msb and MinceR) have Windows jobs... most 'Linux advocates' do. | Apr 18 19:11 |
| msb | He as much as admitted it right there. | Apr 18 19:11 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: that's a bet you'd lose | Apr 18 19:11 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: so, do you have any job at all? | Apr 18 19:12 |
| msb | I think he's doing his job right now, right here. | Apr 18 19:12 |
| cubezzz | I use a bunch of different operating sytems | Apr 18 19:12 |
| Guest36863 | What does it matter whether I have a Windows job, a Linux job, or no job? | Apr 18 19:12 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: if it doesn't matter, why do you ask us about it? | Apr 18 19:12 |
| Guest36863 | What matters is when will Spamowitz - the 'advocate of fair competition' - call for LInux to begin competing fairly? | Apr 18 19:12 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: does a windows advocate have a windows job? | Apr 18 19:13 |
| Guest36863 | So? | Apr 18 19:13 |
| MinceR | yeah, so? | Apr 18 19:13 |
| cubezzz | windows user, what a surprise | Apr 18 19:13 |
| Guest36863 | When will it happen that the 'advocate of fair competition' actually advocates fair competition? | Apr 18 19:14 |
| Guest36863 | Never, that's for sure. | Apr 18 19:14 |
| MinceR | it happens all the time | Apr 18 19:14 |
| Guest36863 | Anyway, tell Spamowitz I dropped by and called out his lies and idiocy. | Apr 18 19:14 |
| MinceR | then again, i wouldn't expect a m$ munchkin to have any idea of what "fair competition" is | Apr 18 19:14 |
| msb | Obviously MS is worried about the increasing adoption of GNU/Linux, even though the price of most computers that people buy already includes a payment to MS for Windows, even if the purchaser never uses Windows. | Apr 18 19:14 |
| MinceR | it being anathema to m$, apparently | Apr 18 19:14 |
| cubezzz | sure, whatever mr anonymous 3848592 | Apr 18 19:15 |
| msb | DFS and about ten other MS spammers have totally trashed COLA for years, and made it useless as a Linux forum. | Apr 18 19:16 |
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| MinceR | strange, he gave up | Apr 18 19:18 |
| MinceR | didn't get enough gratis licences for m$ crap this month? | Apr 18 19:19 |
| cubezzz | ok, I was going to kick him but I can't remember how to get ops | Apr 18 19:19 |
| msb | I have never used MS-Windows. Around 1984 I made a terminal emulator in BASIC that I ran under PC-DOS on my 8088 IBM-PC and used it to communicate with a BSD Unix system at a local university. Around 2000 I switched to Linux.. | Apr 18 19:19 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: /cs op #techrights | Apr 18 19:19 |
| MinceR | or /chanserv op #techrights | Apr 18 19:19 |
| MinceR | or /quote chanserv op #techrights | Apr 18 19:19 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to cubezzz | Apr 18 19:20 | |
| MinceR | or /raw chanserv op #techrights | Apr 18 19:20 |
| cubezzz | yay | Apr 18 19:20 |
| MinceR | msg works too, but is less secure :) | Apr 18 19:20 |
| cubezzz | I can't believe I didn't write that down | Apr 18 19:20 |
| MinceR | (some scripts seem to use msg with a full nick!user@host spec, that's probably more secure than plain msg) | Apr 18 19:20 |
| cubezzz | you're more patient that me MinceR | Apr 18 19:20 |
| cubezzz | I think I would have kicked him out sooner | Apr 18 19:21 |
| msb | MinceR: Your little person-picture in the Konversation nick list is bold, so I think that means you are already an op. | Apr 18 19:21 |
| MinceR | not really, i've asked Roy if i should remove him :> | Apr 18 19:21 |
| MinceR | msb: i am but cubezzz wanted to know how to get op | Apr 18 19:21 |
| msb | Right. | Apr 18 19:21 |
| cubezzz | oh well, so much for today's excitement | Apr 18 19:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 18 19:22 |
| cubezzz | I didn't really understand his arguments | Apr 18 19:23 |
| msb | Debating a shit-hole like that does clarify one's own thoughts on the subject. | Apr 18 19:23 |
| cubezzz | I knew he'd be a windows person :) | Apr 18 19:23 |
| msb | Nobody could understand his arguments, because they were totally bogus. | Apr 18 19:24 |
| cubezzz | duh, I only know how to use one operating system | Apr 18 19:24 |
| cubezzz | I didn't get the chance to ask him if he compiles his kernel | Apr 18 19:24 |
| msb | His arguments were predicated on lies. | Apr 18 19:24 |
| cubezzz | that's my favourite anti-troll comment | Apr 18 19:24 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 18 19:25 |
| MinceR | are you sure he knows what a "kernel" is? :> | Apr 18 19:25 |
| cubezzz | am I sure? no | Apr 18 19:26 |
| msb | Not only doesn't he compile his own kernel (which I don't either, but I could), but he doesn't examine his own mind. So he has no free will. He's not really conscious. | Apr 18 19:26 |
| cubezzz | it's like not knowing how to cook | Apr 18 19:28 |
| *MinceR doesn't know how to cook | Apr 18 19:28 | |
| cubezzz | so you eat fast food all the time... it's not healthy | Apr 18 19:28 |
| MinceR | not all the time | Apr 18 19:28 |
| msb | Psychopaths can't reconcile their thoughts and behavior with what they know is necessary for human survival and success. So they can't examine their ideas and motives. It would create too much cognitive dissonance. | Apr 18 19:28 |
| MinceR | not even most of the time | Apr 18 19:28 |
| cubezzz | just make mrproper, make menuconfig and pick what you want | Apr 18 19:29 |
| MinceR | cooking doesn't work that way :> | Apr 18 19:29 |
| cubezzz | cooking is like programming... | Apr 18 19:30 |
| msb | Asian fast food can be excellent. | Apr 18 19:30 |
| MinceR | yeah, i had chinese once this week | Apr 18 19:30 |
| cubezzz | no one goes around saying "you can't use that recipe for apple pie" | Apr 18 19:30 |
| cubezzz | it's just stupid | Apr 18 19:30 |
| msb | There's a great Chinese place near me, and they deliver! | Apr 18 19:31 |
| MinceR | well, if m$ got into the food business, they would | Apr 18 19:31 |
| cubezzz | but for some reason, people put up with closed source | Apr 18 19:31 |
| msb | A. Most people don't know much about computing. B. Microsoft spends huge amount of money on lying adverts to deceive people. | Apr 18 19:32 |
| cubezzz | msb, you're old enough to know about the pre-windows and pre-microsoft era | Apr 18 19:32 |
| cubezzz | there was sharing of code... | Apr 18 19:32 |
| msb | Teriyaki, that was it! There was a wonderful Japanese teryaki fast-food place in San Francisco I used to go to all the time. | Apr 18 19:33 |
| cubezzz | on BBSes and even usenet | Apr 18 19:33 |
| msb | cubezzz: yes. I used to see lots of sharing of Unix code on Usenet through my Unix account. | Apr 18 19:34 |
| msb | A lot of it was archived on Simtel20 at White Sands AFB (or whatever it was). | Apr 18 19:35 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3944638 | Apr 18 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **"Driving" in style**  #gif | Apr 18 19:35 | |
| msb | You got it not by ftp, there was some other protocol, which I forget. | Apr 18 19:35 |
| schestowitz__ | "I guess I want to see those legs make like the roadrunner. But then I guess that should have been a Plymouth Roadrunner he pulled up next to." | Apr 18 19:35 |
| cubezzz | not to mention a lot of magazines published source code listings | Apr 18 19:35 |
| cubezzz | Dr Dobb's published the source for Tiny BASIC in 1975 | Apr 18 19:36 |
| cubezzz | msb, uucp? | Apr 18 19:37 |
| msb | There was a format for publishing source code in Usenet articles. It wasn't compressed, but had some extra characters for getting whitespace right. | Apr 18 19:37 |
| MinceR | uuencode? | Apr 18 19:37 |
| msb | cubezzz: I remember uucp, but that was a lower-level protocol. | Apr 18 19:38 |
| cubezzz | and the DECUS tapes, I've tapped into that | Apr 18 19:39 |
| cubezzz | some good stuff in there | Apr 18 19:39 |
| msb | MinceR: yes, I think my terminal would do uuencode and uudecode, but this was something else. I thing wget may still do it. | Apr 18 19:39 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 18 19:39 |
| cubezzz | I think ftp predates even tcp/ip | Apr 18 19:40 |
| cubezzz | it used NCP, which was the precursor of tcp/ip | Apr 18 19:41 |
| msb | This was another protocol for wandering around in a directory structure and downloading what you wanted. But I can't remember the name! | Apr 18 19:42 |
| cubezzz | not gopher? | Apr 18 19:42 |
| cubezzz | WAIS? | Apr 18 19:42 |
| msb | Maybe it was gopher. That feels kind of close to it. | Apr 18 19:43 |
| msb | So long ago... | Apr 18 19:43 |
| MinceR | "When Massachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy learned of BBN's accomplishment in signing this million-dollar agreement, he sent a telegram congratulating the company for being contracted to build the "Interfaith Message Processor"." | Apr 18 19:45 |
| MinceR | i lol'd | Apr 18 19:46 |
| cubezzz | doh | Apr 18 19:46 |
| msb | Gopher still has its adherents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_%28protocol%29 | Apr 18 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gopher (protocol) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/h40ts ] | Apr 18 19:49 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 18 19:49 |
| MinceR | http://port70.net/ | Apr 18 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-port70.net | Gopher: | Apr 18 19:49 | |
| msb | "The master Gopherspace search engine is Veronica. Veronica offers a keyword search of all the public Internet Gopher server menu titles. " | Apr 18 19:50 |
| MinceR | " name derives from the word "archive" without the v. Alan Emtage has said that contrary to popular belief, there was no association with the Archie Comics and that he despised them.[5] Despite this, other early Internet search technologies such as Jughead and Veronica were named after characters from the comics." | Apr 18 19:50 |
| MinceR | another funny tidbit | Apr 18 19:51 |
| MinceR | also, there was a "The" at the beginning that i've managed to not select. | Apr 18 19:51 |
| cubezzz | that Archie guy never ages | Apr 18 19:51 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 18 19:51 |
| cubezzz | he's been in high school for over 70 years | Apr 18 19:51 |
| msb | "The master Gopherspace search engine" -- gives the impression of an enormous gopher who knows everything in the worldwide system of gopher tunnels. | Apr 18 19:53 |
| MinceR | but can't fit in them, as it's enormous :> | Apr 18 19:54 |
| msb | Gophers played an important part in the very funny movie Caddyshack (1980) with Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, and Rodney Dangerfield. Definitely worth watching. | Apr 18 19:55 |
| msb | It can be found in that most naughty of naughty places, YIFY. | Apr 18 19:57 |
| msb | Or so I once heard. | Apr 18 19:57 |
| MinceR | yify? sounds naughty | Apr 18 19:58 |
| msb | Yes, it is full of extreme naughtiness, high-res x264 encoded in very small file size. | Apr 18 20:00 |
| msb | Or so people say. | Apr 18 20:01 |
| msb | The IMDB trivia for Caddyshack is very interesting, but read it only after watching the movie. | Apr 18 20:06 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.openpr.com/news/285689/Red-Hat-Enables-Cloud-Flexibility-with-Red-Hat-Enterprise-Linux-and-Google-Compute-Engine.html?SID=f1224f888df02a237f8c68d213ac47e3 | Apr 18 20:15 |
| schestowitz__ | "Tim Yeaton, senior vice president, Infrastructure Group, Red Hat" | Apr 18 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openpr.com | openPR.com - Press release - Red Hat Inc. - Red Hat Enables Cloud Flexibility with Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Google Compute Engine [ http://ur1.ca/h4125 ] | Apr 18 20:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | Foermerly Black Duck | Apr 18 20:15 |
| schestowitz__ | and RHAT before that | Apr 18 20:15 |
| schestowitz__ | now RHT | Apr 18 20:15 |
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| cubezzz | ok, I've updated my basic linux notes | Apr 18 20:50 |
| cubezzz | http://www.cubeman.org/basic-linux.txt | Apr 18 20:51 |
| msb | This is scary: http://www.naturalnews.com/044778_artificial_intelligence_extinction_humankind.html | Apr 18 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.naturalnews.com | Scientists warn the rise of AI will lead to extinction of humankind [ http://ur1.ca/h41i6 ] | Apr 18 20:55 | |
| cubezzz | lol | Apr 18 20:55 |
| cubezzz | not scary to me | Apr 18 20:55 |
| cubezzz | since our AI really sucks :) | Apr 18 20:56 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure that the extinction of humankind would be such a bad thing | Apr 18 20:56 |
| msb | Laugh while you can, Monkey boy. | Apr 18 20:56 |
| MinceR | that's ape, not monkey. | Apr 18 20:56 |
| MinceR | also ballmer is Monkey Boy. | Apr 18 20:56 |
| cubezzz | I have way less hair that either :) | Apr 18 20:57 |
| cubezzz | than even | Apr 18 20:57 |
| msb | It's a line from Buckaroo Banzai, another very good movie, but not a comedy. | Apr 18 20:57 |
| MinceR | i haven't seen it yet | Apr 18 20:58 |
| cubezzz | if I see robots lurching around everywhere then I might get a bit nervous | Apr 18 20:58 |
| cubezzz | but all I see are roombas :) | Apr 18 20:58 |
| MinceR | roombas are robots | Apr 18 20:58 |
| MinceR | and they were seen carrying cats around | Apr 18 20:59 |
| schestowitz__ | yikes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Mono_3.4 http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/770237-fedora-21-gets-gnome-312-php-56-mono-34/ | Apr 18 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Changes/Mono 3.4 - FedoraProject [ http://ur1.ca/h41k3 ] | Apr 18 20:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Fedora 21 Gets GNOME 3.12, PHP 5.6, Mono 3.4 | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/h41k4 ] | Apr 18 20:59 | |
| schestowitz__ | hopefully not by default | Apr 18 21:00 |
| MinceR | http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2473590/cat-on-roomba-driver-o.gif | Apr 18 21:00 |
| MinceR | and so falls fedora | Apr 18 21:00 |
| cubezzz | see, this is why I study older stuff | Apr 18 21:00 |
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| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/catsridingroombas/ | Apr 18 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Cats riding motherfucking roombas [ http://ur1.ca/h41kv ] | Apr 18 21:01 | |
| cubezzz | ha, there was hercules support in bl3 | Apr 18 21:02 |
| cubezzz | xmono.tgz | Apr 18 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 wows through subtlety | Apr 18 21:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 wows through subtlety | Tux Machines | Apr 18 21:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 will power “first commercially | Apr 18 21:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available Ubuntu tablets” | Apr 18 21:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 will power “first commercially available Ubuntu tablets” | Tux Machines | Apr 18 21:04 | |
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| msb | The important thing is that AI will not lead to the extinction of cats. Apparently they have a symbiotic relationship. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cat+roomba | Apr 18 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | cat roomba - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h41u6 ] | Apr 18 21:21 | |
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| MinceR | :) | Apr 18 21:21 |
| MinceR | or should i say... | Apr 18 21:22 |
| MinceR | :3 | Apr 18 21:22 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.tomsguide.com/us/samsung-galaxy-s5-fingerprint-hack,news-18655.html | Apr 18 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomsguide.com | Samsung Galaxy S5's Fingerprint Scanner Hacked [ http://ur1.ca/h41xz ] | Apr 18 21:35 | |
| Sosumi | just like the hypephone | Apr 18 21:35 |
| MinceR | it always was just security theater | Apr 18 21:36 |
| MinceR | or even less | Apr 18 21:36 |
| Sosumi | a gimmick and in no way seller for cigar cutters | Apr 18 21:36 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/psa-dozens-of-games-available-for-99-cents-each-on-psn-this-weekend/ | Apr 18 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | PSA: Dozens of games available for 99 cents each on PSN this weekend | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h421v ] | Apr 18 21:54 | |
| Sosumi | lol sony trouncing m$ | Apr 18 21:54 |
| Sosumi | too bad that the games seem meh | Apr 18 21:58 |
| Sosumi | or is it me that is biased towards quake 3 arena | Apr 18 21:58 |
| Sosumi | and those fast arena shooters | Apr 18 21:58 |
| Sosumi | of which no one makes anymore | Apr 18 21:59 |
| Sosumi | gn | Apr 18 21:59 |
| MinceR | o/ | Apr 18 21:59 |
| msb | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z7EKD6N3HM | Apr 18 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Dogs and cats meeting for the first time - Cute and funny dog & cat compilation - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h4233 ] | Apr 18 22:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands on with Ubuntu 14.04: The best Ubuntu | Apr 18 22:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands on with Ubuntu 14.04: The best Ubuntu desktop ever | Tux Machines | Apr 18 22:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 13-Way Low-End GPU Comparison With AMD's AM1 Athlon | Tux Machines | Apr 18 22:51 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Apr 18 23:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Wine Announcement http://t.co/v9XcKLASwr | Apr 19 00:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Announcement | Tux Machines | Apr 19 00:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | [ANNOUNCE] Git v2.0.0-rc0 | Tux Machines | Apr 19 00:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 19 00:29 | |
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| cubezzz | ok msb_ you might find this interesting | Apr 19 01:11 |
| cubezzz | the video card glitch happened, so I tried the idea of using /sbin/modprobe vga16fb to see if I could make the text console visible | Apr 19 01:13 |
| cubezzz | it worked but it needed two steps | Apr 19 01:13 |
| cubezzz | first change from radeon to vesa driver in xorg.conf | Apr 19 01:14 |
| cubezzz | then /sbin/modprobe vga16fb | Apr 19 01:14 |
| cubezzz | then change from vesa back to radeon | Apr 19 01:14 |
| cubezzz | poof.... text console works :) | Apr 19 01:14 |
| cubezzz | first time I've ever been able to make the text console visible after the glitch happened | Apr 19 01:15 |
| cubezzz | also I can manifest the glitch on demand now | Apr 19 01:20 |
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| msb | cubezzz: How did you do all this if the video card wasn't giving you a readable display? Come in on the network from another computer, as root? | Apr 19 02:11 |
| msb | cubezzz: Or was X working, even while the text console was messed up? | Apr 19 02:12 |
| cubezzz | msb_ yes that's it | Apr 19 04:01 |
| cubezzz | X is fine and viewable, only the text console is corrupted | Apr 19 04:01 |
| cubezzz | but at least now I have a way to fix it | Apr 19 04:01 |
| cubezzz | there doesn't seem to be any way to rmmod vga16fb | Apr 19 04:07 |
| msb | cubezzz: After you do this, isn't your system using vga16fb for the text console? | Apr 19 05:52 |
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| msb | MinceR: Hi! | Apr 19 13:38 |
| msb | Fascism marches on: http://www.activistpost.com/2014/04/kill-switch-included-on-all-cell-phones.html | Apr 19 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.activistpost.com | Activist Post: ‘Kill Switch’ Included on All Cell Phones Made in U.S. by 2015 [ http://ur1.ca/h49ne ] | Apr 19 13:39 | |
| MinceR | what's even sadder, it will probably appear in cell phones made elsewhere, too | Apr 19 13:40 |
| msb | All those little black objects that people were holding up at the Bundy Ranch encounter with federal troops were cell phones, recording the troops' actions. | Apr 19 13:40 |
| msb | Now cops and feds and any govt will be able to wipe those pix and videos instantly so they can't be used as evidence. | Apr 19 13:41 |
| MinceR | i don't quite understand how "required" and "voluntary" go together in this case, though | Apr 19 13:41 |
| msb | I don't know, but all the phone mfrs are apparently in on it. Now you'd think they'd be against that "anti-theft" measure, because if someone's phone is stolen, they're just gonna buy another one. Ka-ching! | Apr 19 13:43 |
| msb | Let's hope someone makes an open-source phone, or one that can be rooted, and this can be fixed by users. | Apr 19 13:45 |
| msb | As it is now, cops have to be very careful. The *only* times they get convicted is when someone records their beating/shooting on a cell-phone. | Apr 19 13:47 |
| msb | And more and more people have them. | Apr 19 13:47 |
| msb | Damn! Yahoo cut off all my list mail ten days ago because some mail bounced at some time, and hasn't sent me anything. For all I know, the Earth could have ascended into the Fifth Dimension. | Apr 19 14:22 |
| msb | It's fascism all over again, I tell ya! | Apr 19 14:23 |
| MinceR | it's bad idea to rely on yahoo anyway | Apr 19 14:23 |
| msb | Well, I was still getting stuff from a few non-yahoo lists. | Apr 19 14:24 |
| msb | But most lists moved to yahoo years ago. It's the only way to access them. | Apr 19 14:25 |
| MinceR | anyone could run their own lists on their own server(s) via mailman, for example | Apr 19 14:25 |
| MinceR | there's no need to give the opportunity to cut anyone off to a microsoft shell company. | Apr 19 14:26 |
| msb | Aggh! Yahoo is owned by MS?? | Apr 19 14:27 |
| MinceR | not sure if they're owned by m$, but they serve m$ | Apr 19 14:27 |
| msb | How? | Apr 19 14:27 |
| MinceR | their "search engine" is nothing but a front end to bìng, for example | Apr 19 14:27 |
| msb | I just use google, a front end to the CIA. | Apr 19 14:28 |
| MinceR | not to the nsa? | Apr 19 14:28 |
| MinceR | also, you can achieve further isolation from google via startpage and/or tor | Apr 19 14:28 |
| msb | You're right, sorry. Got my TLAs confused. | Apr 19 14:28 |
| msb | With my website, trying to hide is useless. | Apr 19 14:29 |
| MinceR | you could still deprive them of some information, though | Apr 19 14:29 |
| msb | Nothing that would do me any good. | Apr 19 14:30 |
| msb | MinceR: The possible future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQMAGT-3wx4 | Apr 19 14:34 |
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| msb | MinceR: Hopefully you're not at work and can listen to it. | Apr 19 14:35 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 19 14:41 |
| msb | MinceR: That's the future we want to *prevent*. | Apr 19 14:57 |
| msb | MinceR: Have you lived through that kind of thing? | Apr 19 14:58 |
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| cubeman_ | msb_, yeah it must be | Apr 19 15:05 |
| cubeman_ | brb | Apr 19 15:06 |
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| cubezzz | also I don't seem to have any mouse access using vga16fb | Apr 19 15:07 |
| msb | cubezzz: hey, could I phone you on xxx-x218? | Apr 19 15:08 |
| cubezzz | it would be a long distance call | Apr 19 15:09 |
| msb | cubezzz: I have free LD to there. | Apr 19 15:09 |
| cubezzz | ok | Apr 19 15:10 |
| MinceR | msb: not yet | Apr 19 15:11 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/history-of-x.txt | Apr 19 15:34 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | And that is me finished for the day. Yet again I’ve neglected my writing and tomorrow I’ll hopefully be recording for the TechBytes show (as well as having a day of football viewing) – so thats another day lost. For those interested TechBytes is part of a collaborative work under the BytesMedia umbrella. You can visit the site here: http://www.bytesmedia.co.uk .https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3951927 | Apr 19 16:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Alot of sites do that now. Combined with how much flash player slows computers and the lack of analog volume controls on modern PCs and it's a recipe for disaster." | Apr 19 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bytesmedia.co.uk | Bytes Media - Sites Index | Apr 19 16:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nytimes started this very annoying thing which is auto-playing videos. Load a page and it may then cause embarrassment in a public place. | Apr 19 16:39 | |
| cubezzz | yeah flash kind of sucks | Apr 19 17:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I don't need it, but Androiud | Apr 19 18:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | included it by default | Apr 19 18:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullrun_(decryption_program) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/09/crucial-unanswered-questions-about-nsa-bullrun-program | Apr 19 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bullrun (decryption program) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/h4d26 ] | Apr 19 19:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Revealed: how US and UK spy agencies defeat internet privacy and security | World news | Guardian Weekly [ http://ur1.ca/fe498 ] | Apr 19 19:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Crucial Unanswered Questions about the NSA's BULLRUN Program | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/fgbam ] | Apr 19 19:13 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "There are real NSA programs designed to weaken encryption standards and specific implementations but Orchestra is a fictional operation imagined by Poul-Henning Kamp. Kamp was using the imagined program as a way of explaining otherwise inexplicable behavior and to propose concerted effort to clean up stuff like OpenSSL. Bullrun [2, 3] is an example of a program specifically designed to weaken encryption in the way Kamp was | Apr 19 19:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | talking about." | Apr 19 19:13 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It might be trademarked. Either way, guess who grabbed the domain and comemercialised it? it's not the man from Google. He even gave money he got to the proxy that funds WIKILEAKS :-) | Apr 19 19:13 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines XP shutdown: Switch to free software, say FSMI | Apr 19 19:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | XP shutdown: Switch to free software, say FSMI activists | Tux Machines | Apr 19 19:17 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3951079 | Apr 19 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **Scientology Has a Dirty Little Secret. And L. Ron Hubbard’s Great-Grandson Just Exposed It. | Mobiledia** - http://www.mobiledia.com/news/191386.html | Apr 19 19:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mobiledia.com | Scientology Has a Dirty Little Secret. And L. Ron Hubbard’s Great-Grandson Just Exposed It. | Mobiledia [ http://ur1.ca/h4d4w ] | Apr 19 19:20 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Scientology is a bunch of ridiculous BS without ANY sense. Also, if you read about all of that crap then it becomes clear that the guy had a serious mental illness, was deluded, or just was a great prankster with Sci-Fi twist." | Apr 19 19:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | A lot of bigger religions with broader following are equally ridiculous, just like their prophets or originators. | Apr 19 19:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3949149 | Apr 19 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **The JOY of Easter**   #easter #gif | Apr 19 19:20 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Hahah, the first pic blew my mind. Superfunny!" | Apr 19 19:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3952428 | Apr 19 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:  | Apr 19 19:21 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Still more credible than the bible..." | Apr 19 19:21 |
| cubezzz | lol, scary | Apr 19 19:25 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 19 19:26 |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, if you're still around you may appreciate this: | Apr 19 19:58 |
| cubezzz | http://www.emulators.com/docs/nx02_standards.htm | Apr 19 19:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.emulators.com | NO EXECUTE! Sep. 10 2007 [ http://ur1.ca/h4djj ] | Apr 19 19:59 | |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3953268 | Apr 19 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Deaths monetiser #EliLilly asks politicians to help it profit from deaths using extortionate monopolies (patents) http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140416/12350326936/eli-lilly-enlists-us-representatives-fight-against-canada-refusing-patent-useless-drug.shtml | Apr 19 20:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Eli Lilly Enlists Congress In Fight Against Canada For Refusing Patent On Useless Drug | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/h3tza ] | Apr 19 20:50 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I'm not in favour of having any IP anymore, but the "useful" requirement seems to be the least important one of the three to me. If they ditched it altogether and actually applied "original" and "non-obvious" I wouldn't be at all upset: If the patent is useful then they'll be able to licence it If it's non-useful then noone will want to licence it anyway" | Apr 19 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtHmKLHtZvg | Apr 19 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Richard Stallman interview pt2, Windows and Apple rob privacy (15July13) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h4e6a ] | Apr 19 20:53 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | cubezzz: it's very long, which part is most relevant? | Apr 19 20:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | For Red Hat, it's RHEL and then…? | Tux Machines | Apr 19 21:03 | |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, it's very interesting, a microsoft guy was criticizing microsoft | Apr 19 23:33 |
| cubezzz | I worked at Microsoft at a time when the company had pretty much taken the market share away from Lotus 1-2-3, Word Perfect, and dBase. By the mid-1990's, Microsoft all but owned the word processing and spreadsheet spaces. And with that control it regularly modified the file formats for applications such as Word and Excel, and even Outlook and PowerPoint. The Office file formats change just about every 2 or 3 years and I have lost track of how many uniq | Apr 19 23:34 |
| cubezzz | ue Office file formats there have been. | Apr 19 23:34 |
| cubezzz | After owning over 90% of the word processor and spreadsheet market they apparently started to assume that all their customers would just blindly upgrade Microsoft Office every year | Apr 19 23:34 |
| cubezzz | this from a former Microsoft guy | Apr 19 23:35 |
| cubezzz | he even uses the same terminology I used... | Apr 19 23:37 |
| cubezzz | the "Dark Ages" of personal computing | Apr 19 23:37 |
| cubezzz | although I disagree when the Dark Ages happened | Apr 19 23:38 |
| cubezzz | he says 2000 to 2005 | Apr 19 23:38 |
| cubezzz | I'd say it's more like 1995 to 2003 | Apr 19 23:38 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if it's over yet | Apr 19 23:44 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Microsoft people have to start planning an exit | Apr 19 23:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | or they will die along with MS | Apr 19 23:47 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't mind if they did | Apr 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3953316 | Apr 19 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft Abandons #Windows 8.1: Take Immediate Action Or Be Cut Off Like #WindowsXP http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/04/15/microsoft-abandons-windows-8-1-take-immediate-action-or-be-cut-off-like-windows-xp/ http://techrights.org/2014/04/18/crackers-and-windows/ | Apr 19 23:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.forbes.com | Microsoft Abandons Windows 8.1: Take Immediate Action Or Be Cut Off Like Windows XP - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/h4eld ] | Apr 19 23:48 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "@Sean: I only need windows temporarily for a programming thing. I'm thinking of ditching it once it's done. | Apr 19 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft is Leaving Windows — Including Vista 8.1 — Vulnerable to Non-Government Crackers, Not Only to NSA | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/h4elf ] | Apr 19 23:48 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I only use it to write for my Ph.D. program. There are some style requirements and compatibility issues that I cannot solve with LibreOffice. So having it as something I bring up only when needed while preserving my Linux environment is perfect. And yes, I've repeatedly tried running Office under Wine. I've failed every time." | Apr 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Older versions should work | Apr 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3951994 | Apr 19 23:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Forget Dropbox: #BitTorrent Sync Allows You To Skip the Cloud Entirely http://betabeat.com/2014/04/forget-dropbox-bittorrent-sync-allows-you-to-skip-the-cloud-entirely/ move your files away from #prism this Easter | Apr 19 23:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> betabeat.com | Forget Dropbox: BitTorrent Sync Allows You To Skip the Cloud Entirely | Betabeat [ http://ur1.ca/h4dzy ] | Apr 19 23:49 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "true dat, about time they open up the sources, as they promised" | Apr 19 23:49 |
| MinceR | i wrote my first thesis with openoffice and the second with LaTeX | Apr 19 23:50 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I used lyx | Apr 19 23:50 |
| MinceR | i edited the latex source with vim | Apr 19 23:51 |
| msb | MinceR: "<MinceR> i wouldn't mind if they [died with MS]" MinceR, you should not insult or attack Windows *users*. They are our future *customers*! (at no cost) | Apr 19 23:52 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, well the chromebooks seem to be doing well | Apr 19 23:52 |
| MinceR | msb: some of them are entirely deserving of insults, though | Apr 19 23:52 |
| cubezzz | I'd say the worst is over, hopefully? | Apr 19 23:52 |
| msb | MinceR: Why? | Apr 19 23:53 |
| MinceR | msb: some of them are part of the problem | Apr 19 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Screenshots of Ubuntu-based Distros | Apr 19 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JdmoO189hI | Apr 19 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h4g5j | Apr 19 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Screenshots of Ubuntu-based Distros | Tux Machines | Apr 19 23:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines We still believe in Linus’ law after Heartbleed | Apr 19 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | bug, says Elie Auvray of Jahia | Apr 19 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8X0qrwn0KR | Apr 19 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h4g5k | Apr 19 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | We still believe in Linus’ law after Heartbleed bug, says Elie Auvray of Jahia | Tux Machines | Apr 19 23:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Please protest the "Windows 8 Campus Tour" | Apr 19 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bpPcgcBUxc | Apr 19 23:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h4g5l | Apr 19 23:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Please protest the "Windows 8 Campus Tour" | Tux Machines | Apr 19 23:53 | |
| MinceR | msb: some of them are fighting engineers to drag us into m$ hell | Apr 19 23:53 |
| msb | MinceR: How, unless they are MS advocates? | Apr 19 23:53 |
| cubezzz | did that Guest guy make a re-appearance? | Apr 19 23:53 |
| MinceR | some m$ users are m$ advocates | Apr 19 23:53 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: no, afaik | Apr 19 23:53 |
| msb | Right, they should be attacked. But not non-advocate ms users. They are current victims, and our future customers and associates. | Apr 19 23:54 |
| cubezzz | yeah, you can't attack customers :) | Apr 19 23:54 |
| msb | I had to tell this to Linux advocates on COLA all the time when I was on there. Most of them didn't listen. | Apr 19 23:55 |
| MinceR | msb: our future customers and associates won't die with m$ | Apr 19 23:56 |
| MinceR | _because_ they'll become our future customers and associates. | Apr 19 23:56 |
| msb | But if we're nasty to them, they'll think of Linux people as nasty, just like MS has been telling them we are! | Apr 19 23:57 |
| msb | They might go to Mac instead. | Apr 19 23:58 |
| msb | Ick. | Apr 19 23:58 |
| MinceR | crApple should die too | Apr 19 23:58 |
| msb | Yep | Apr 19 23:58 |
| MinceR | they seem to be declining as well | Apr 19 23:58 |
| cubezzz | the market is glutted | Apr 19 23:58 |
| cubezzz | PCs are really on the decline | Apr 19 23:59 |
| cubezzz | partly because people aren't upgrading as often | Apr 19 23:59 |
| cubezzz | partly because of mobile computing devices | Apr 19 23:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Box joins the open source bandwagon with new showcase http://t.co/oM8KtSVZOy http://t.co/f8qz2D8Nng | Apr 13 08:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Collateral Benefits of India's Open Source Drug Discovery Programme http://t.co/JU1r0BThME saving lives by sharing | Apr 13 08:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #RedHat answers governments’ questions on Freeware and Open Source http://t.co/3Web60oSg6 when government don't grasp freedom | Apr 13 08:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Out in the Open: Build Your Own Siri With This Free Code and without #apple and #google (PRISM) recording all http://t.co/B5kIxDR9CE | Apr 13 08:53 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455246832877449216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455245630521503744 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455244360444293120 | Apr 13 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When Should We Go Open Source? http://t.co/bM88YKIOwj free, not open | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eetimes.com | When Should We Go Open Source? | EE Times | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open source gives new life to old Windows XP machines http://t.co/zBlriJBwJX another article advising people to move to #gnu #linux | Apr 13 08:54 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: University Of Maryland Explores Open Source Textbooks http://t.co/SZLrjlxILy #sharing economy | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ubergizmo.com | University Of Maryland Explores Open Source Textbooks | Ubergizmo | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/RichardSmedley/status/455252646493188096 https://twitter.com/RichardSmedley/status/455252882787680256 | Apr 13 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardSmedley: @schestowitz Interesting. Where is the hardware equivalent of sourceforge? Perhaps github works as well for circuit revisions as code? | Apr 13 09:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardSmedley: @schestowitz ...though there's OpenCores for CPUs, of course. | Apr 13 09:28 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | I think you have identified a gap; would be nice to have schematic diff, commit, etc. | Apr 13 09:29 |
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| schestowitz_log_ | nice simple widget: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/64917 | Apr 13 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 13 11:11 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | oops. handy: http://countingdownto.com/ | Apr 13 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-countingdownto.com | Create a Countdown Clock Widget for Your Website | CountingDownTo.com | Apr 13 11:11 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | That's the right link | Apr 13 11:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455292033939537920 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455290488216911874 | Apr 13 11:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Economist Thomas Piketty's message is bleak: the gap between rich and poor threatens to destroy us" http://t.co/rYvlnaXLVs | Apr 13 11:32 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/3920193 | Apr 13 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Silicon Valley co... | Apr 13 11:42 | |
| schestowitz | Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/12/silicon-valley-nsa-reform-taking-so-long #obama works for1% & #nsa which works for the 1% | Apr 13 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? | Trevor Timm | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/h2ind ] | Apr 13 11:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/IanTheInventor/status/455296444573163520 | Apr 13 11:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IanTheInventor: @schestowitz @PaulbernalUK I thought Copyright infringement was about people profiting from pretending to be an established business | Apr 13 11:52 | |
| schestowitz | Depends what the copyright is on, e.g. work of dead artist... | Apr 13 11:52 |
| MinceR | geekings | Apr 13 11:54 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, I'm reading here it's possible for the console to be taken over by a loadable module | Apr 13 11:55 |
| cubezzz | e.g. /sbin/modprobe uvesafb | Apr 13 11:57 |
| schestowitz | wow, neocons: http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/13697/nsa-leaks-fallout-will-fade-faster-than-hit-to-u-s-pride | Apr 13 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldpoliticsreview.com | NSA Leaks Fallout Will Fade Faster Than Hit to U.S. Pride [ http://ur1.ca/h2it4 ] | Apr 13 12:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2014/04/11/national-security-agency-heartbleed-bug-spying/7609019/ | Apr 13 12:16 |
| schestowitz | "Even if we are to believe the NSA, and I'm reluctant given its shaky track record, the damage has been done to the tech community." | Apr 13 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | First Take: The Latest Apparent NSA Outrage [ http://ur1.ca/h2itj ] | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.foxbaltimore.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/gogo-other-wifi-providers-gives-information-nsa-27091.shtml | Apr 13 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxbaltimore.com | Go-Go And Other Wi-Fi Providers Gives Information To NSA - WBFF Fox Baltimore - Top Stories [ http://ur1.ca/h2iu4 ] | Apr 13 12:21 | |
| msb_ | "Even if we are to believe the NSA, and I'm reluctant given its shaky track record, the damage has been done to the tech community." | Apr 13 13:02 |
| msb_ | Perhaps all the revelations of NSA spying have benefitted the tech community. | Apr 13 13:03 |
| msb_ | Many techies tend to be apolitical, perhaps because technology provides such an enjoyable area of interest, while politics are unpleasant. | Apr 13 13:04 |
| msb_ | But now, a whole new array of people have been forced to realize how evil -- untrustworthy and harmful -- the U.S. government actually is. | Apr 13 13:05 |
| msb_ | It has hit them where they live. | Apr 13 13:05 |
| msb_ | Awareness of the evil is the most important factor in ridding the world of it. | Apr 13 13:06 |
| cubezzz | well that was interesting | Apr 13 13:06 |
| cubezzz | I actually managed to change the text console | Apr 13 13:06 |
| msb_ | More and more people are questioning the 9/11 attacks, which were the pretext for the US/Israeli War of Terror. | Apr 13 13:07 |
| msb_ | Every increase in people's awareness of the dominator psychopaths is a step forward. | Apr 13 13:08 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, I mangaged to switch from bog standard 80x25 text to vga16fb | Apr 13 13:09 |
| cubezzz | anyways, it's in the log if you ever come across it | Apr 13 13:09 |
| msb_ | Congrats cubezzz. Yes, IIRC, you can do that with kernel options at startup. | Apr 13 13:10 |
| cubezzz | msb_, this is dynamic | Apr 13 13:10 |
| msb_ | Oho! | Apr 13 13:10 |
| msb_ | So it's a loadable kernel module? | Apr 13 13:11 |
| cubezzz | yes | Apr 13 13:11 |
| cubezzz | works in 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, although those are the only 2 I've tried so far | Apr 13 13:13 |
| cubezzz | now the interesting part is... will this fix a messed up text console | Apr 13 13:13 |
| msb_ | Exactly what I was going to ask. | Apr 13 13:14 |
| cubezzz | well I have to get it to mess up first to test that | Apr 13 13:14 |
| msb_ | How often has it been happening? | Apr 13 13:14 |
| cubezzz | ha | Apr 13 13:14 |
| cubezzz | it happens about once or twice a month | Apr 13 13:15 |
| msb_ | Do you monitor your cpu and mobo temperature sensors? | Apr 13 13:15 |
| msb_ | KDE4 system monitor can do that. | Apr 13 13:16 |
| cubezzz | you can monitor my sensors :) | Apr 13 13:16 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/cgi-bin/sensors.cgi | Apr 13 13:16 |
| cubezzz | I don't think I'm using -12V or -5V | Apr 13 13:18 |
| cubezzz | I think -12V was actually dropped from ATX a while back | Apr 13 13:18 |
| msb_ | Isn't science wonderful! | Apr 13 13:21 |
| msb_ | What program gives you that listing? | Apr 13 13:21 |
| cubezzz | it's part of lm_sensors | Apr 13 13:26 |
| cubezzz | yeah KDE 3.X probably has something | Apr 13 13:28 |
| cubezzz | but it's nice to be able to use it in text mode | Apr 13 13:28 |
| msb_ | I just loaded an rpm that supposedly has it, but it's not showing up yet. Have to look in half an hour when this anime' I'm watching is over. | Apr 13 13:33 |
| msb_ | There's so much I don't know. I feel like I'm Dilbert going up against Techno-Bill! | Apr 13 13:34 |
| cubezzz | well I was in the video game industry for quite a while | Apr 13 13:36 |
| cubezzz | so I picked up a bit about low-level stuff | Apr 13 13:37 |
| msb_ | At least I was an expert on the IBM-PC. Used to write wedges that went into the BIOS interrupt chains. | Apr 13 13:37 |
| cubezzz | probably the coreboot guys know the most | Apr 13 13:37 |
| cubezzz | the learning curve is a lot higher now | Apr 13 13:38 |
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| cubezzz | so many different motherboards, chipsets, etc | Apr 13 13:38 |
| msb_ | And I'm also putting a lot of effort into understanding and publicizing what's really going on in the world, e.g., http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911 | Apr 13 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Apr 13 13:40 | |
| msb_ | And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqs7GJ0jdY | Apr 13 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Psychopathy in Politics and Finance - Stefan Verstappen on GRTV - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/g85hq ] | Apr 13 13:42 | |
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| schestowitz | Russian propagandahttp://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_13/CIAs-head-has-come-to-Ukraine-to-instruct-power-agencies-unofficial-source-6354/ http://www.voanews.com/content/the-cias-cultural-war-against-soviet-russia/1890560.html | Apr 13 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-voiceofrussia.com | CIA's head has come to Ukraine to instruct power agencies - unofficial source - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video [ http://ur1.ca/h2j8h ] | Apr 13 13:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | The CIA’s Cultural War Against Soviet Russia [ http://ur1.ca/h2j8i ] | Apr 13 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | Federal Court: Drone Killing of U.S. Citizens Is Constitutional http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/18019-federal-court-drone-killing-of-u-s-citizens-is-constitutional and if this does not worry the population, nothing will | Apr 13 13:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewamerican.com | Federal Court: Drone Killing of U.S. Citizens Is Constitutional [ http://ur1.ca/h2j9s ] | Apr 13 13:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/455334379280027649 | Apr 13 14:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@angrymofo: @schestowitz Not yet, I really hope something like #Heartbleed turns up in #Snowden's leaked docs. Exploits like this are their everyday job | Apr 13 14:21 | |
| schestowitz | One job among several, and the goal is not to fix em :-) | Apr 13 14:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455334172689965056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455331932705128448 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455330615530098688 | Apr 13 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Links: Surveillance, Intervention, Torture and Drones http://t.co/XamlTGNwhU "spreading democracy", aggressively | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Links: Surveillance, Intervention, Torture and Drones | Techrights | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CNN: "CIA...called things like waterboarding "enhanced interrogation methods." But the only adequate word to describe them is "torture."" | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: US Interrogator Calls CIA Program 'Stanford Prison Experiment Writ Large' http://t.co/TJX1jyKnlH experiment on live sample | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.businessinsider.com | CIA Enhanced Interrogation Was Out Of Control - Business Insider | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455330188617089024 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329791148052480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329535081603072 | Apr 13 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Rep. Ellison calls for speedy release of report on CIA interrogations http://t.co/5PQoTtYDmJ asking truth from the #cia a risky proposition | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.startribune.com | Rep. Ellison calls for speedy release of report on CIA interrogations | Star Tribune | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CIA profiling reminds US Arabs of the Mukhabarat http://t.co/zpxQBpK6Gz #mccarthyism | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenational.ae | CIA profiling reminds US Arabs of the Mukhabarat | The National | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CIA's "harsh interrogations" exceeded legal authority - report http://t.co/4WS9azV99U hence, no authority exists above CIA | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> in.reuters.com | CIA's harsh interrogations exceeded legal authority - report | Reuters | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329349622038528 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329102829207552 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455328531040727040 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455327946530914304 | Apr 13 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It seems as though, based on sources inside the #nsa , #heatbleed used by NSA for years, but NSA denies it b/c there's no leaked doc | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: One leak can do a while lot more than a lot of activism which can be denied as "false" http://t.co/ifh0lDLRte http://t.co/6QRsHVxm97 | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.scmp.com | CIA tortured prisoners and lied to US Justice Department, Senate report says | South China Morning Post | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bradblog.com | Leaked Findings of Senate Report on 'CIA Torture and Detention' Detail Illegalities, Incompetence, Endangerment of National Security, War Crimes | The BRAD BLOG | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Now We Know What's Being Done In Our Name http://t.co/UAbbrrGWlA and we can do more to stop this. #snowden #wikileaks | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.esquire.com | CIA Torture Report Leak - Now We Know What's Being Done In Our Name - Esquire | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Those not distracted by #gop #propaganda (mostly Fox) over #morell may have seen reports such as (2013): http://t.co/H2aNSwbePC | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | CIA 'running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked' - Telegraph | Apr 13 14:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455327240499503104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455327240499503104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455326743944253440 | Apr 13 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Syria #cia and #mi6 intervention: "Ankara worked with the US and Britain to smuggle Gaddafi's guns to rebel groups" http://t.co/XCgXFviy9n | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | MI6, the CIA and Turkey's rogue game in Syria - Comment - Voices - The Independent | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The leaked report about #cia #torture reveals Zero Dark Thirty to be not just #propaganda but also #revisionism - #torture did not work. | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455326398874664961 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455326042476249088 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455325254219755521 | Apr 13 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "CIA misled the media and the public about the effectiveness of cruel and unusual" #torture http://t.co/t4aNRkO7vW | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.salon.com | Torture report leak: CIA methods “brutal,” “worse than communicated” - Salon.com | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #uk helped #cia #torture not just in #soctland according to reports http://t.co/85oIfBRyyy http://t.co/NJJaoS63YN | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | UK urged to admit that CIA used island as secret 'black site' prison | World news | The Observer | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | British gave 'full co-operation' for CIA black jail on Diego Garcia, report claims - Telegraph | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: British press carries on with "black box" #propaganda and endless promises, optimism. At stake? #Boeing sales. http://t.co/gGJHib4Uiw | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Missing Malaysian plane's black box batteries may have died - The Times of India | Apr 13 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455296206101811200 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455295518995132417 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455294818638635008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455294509216452608 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455294231226372096 | Apr 13 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA allowed to keep secret some Internet security flaws, officials say http://t.co/vcbrNZQes3 cracking is good, believes USG | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bostonglobe.com | Obama allows NSA to keep some Internet security flaws secret, officials say - Nation - The Boston Globe | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When cracker does not work for government, s/he starts nuclear war. When cracker works for government, it's security. We are the Good Guys! | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NSA Blows Its Own Top Secret Program in Order to Propagandize https://t.co/javgGvmBIX #nsa leads to deaths. #droNSA | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org | NSA Blows Its Own Top Secret Program in Order to Propagandize - The Intercept | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: According to #nytimes (Pentagon apologist), #obama is now cracker in chief and the whole nation should be proud of it. #crime | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Lets N.S.A. Exploit Some Internet Flaws, Officials Say http://t.co/9xZLYxNR1g good report by Sanger | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455293836450091008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455293156456951808 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455292354094989312 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455292033939537920 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455290488216911874 | Apr 13 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #oppression example of #cia and #nsa is now inspiring tyrannies elsewhere http://t.co/WLV4JdrjCU 'US model' spreads. | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hurriyetdailynews.com | Turkey’s intel agency to have NSA-like body - POLITICS | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? http://t.co/zcchB7SF5w ... https://t.co/x5y9t1yLzN | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? | Trevor Timm | Comment is free | theguardian.com | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joindiaspora.com | Silicon Valley co... | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: US did not arrest or harass journalists, hopefully not just out of fear of Streisand Effect http://t.co/wfaCN9M1oA http://t.co/QkrC03Uj4W | Apr 13 14:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Journalists who broke NSA story in Guardian dedicate award to Snowden | World news | theguardian.com | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.kxnet.com | 2 reporters who probed NSA surveillance back in US - KXNet.com - Bismarck/Minot/Williston/Dickinson-KXNEWS,ND | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Indian press turns #greenwald into an #apple product http://t.co/aJhX7kbPIy | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.business-standard.com | iGreenwald back in US after NSA revelations | Business Standard | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Economist Thomas Piketty's message is bleak: the gap between rich and poor threatens to destroy us" http://t.co/rYvlnaXLVs | Apr 13 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Capitalism simply isn't working and here are the reasons why | Will Hutton | Comment is free | The Observer | Apr 13 14:30 | |
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| msb_ | Note the use of special words that somehow induce people to turn off their humanity. "War" -- actually means attacking and invading a country that never did anything against the U.S., and murdering a million of its people. But if the govt calls it "war" then Americans accept these MILLION MURDERS as being OK. Whereas one murder makes headlines. | Apr 13 15:30 |
| msb_ | "Insurgent" actually means a person trying to defend their country against the American mass-murdering invaders. But when these defenders are labelled "insurgents", then Americans think it's great to murder them. | Apr 13 15:32 |
| msb_ | ...and torture them too. | Apr 13 15:32 |
| msb_ | The use of these propaganda words is a form of mind-control. | Apr 13 15:33 |
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| msb_ | Described by George Orwell in _1984_ (published in 1949) -- "We Have Always Been At War With Eastasia" | Apr 13 15:36 |
| Sosumi | no | Apr 13 15:38 |
| Sosumi | there are many forms of war | Apr 13 15:38 |
| Sosumi | some include slander or character assassination | Apr 13 15:39 |
| Sosumi | to economic warfare | Apr 13 15:39 |
| Sosumi | either in the form of sanctions or shipping the problem abroad | Apr 13 15:40 |
| Sosumi | kind of like US did in 2008 | Apr 13 15:40 |
| Sosumi | in shipping its problems to the euro | Apr 13 15:40 |
| Sosumi | too bad the characters upn the in frankfurt and bruxels failed to see that | Apr 13 15:41 |
| Sosumi | *up there in Frankfurt... | Apr 13 15:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455355416743272449 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455355856910303232 | Apr 13 15:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "readable, clear, innocent and straightforward as possible, and yet it must fail to perform at its apparent function" http://t.co/jgLf7v5rmL | Apr 13 15:49 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The different a space can make https://t.co/qdBl8bxP7Z | Apr 13 15:49 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Who Pays the Price? The Human Cost of Electronics http://t.co/b2t99QhFPe #externality | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Who Pays the Price? The Human Cost of Electronics - YouTube | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #robin seggelmann "insists he has no association with intelligence agencies, and also notes that..." http://t.co/DXgpQyg6OW #cryptocalypse | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | The Big Question: When Did The NSA Know About Heartbleed? | Techdirt | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cia #nsa operation #ORCHESTRA http://t.co/vZU99Pcuh6 bringing people for #bugdoors | Apr 13 15:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3920971 | Apr 13 15:49 |
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| schestowitz | hmm.. kills it | Apr 13 15:50 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: Remember General Semantics -- *subscripting*. A single word -- "war" -- may have many uses and meanings. war1 does not equal war2. That doesn't disprove the fact that war1 is used as mind-control -- a trigger-word to make the listener turn off their humanity. | Apr 13 15:51 |
| Sosumi | heartbleed only proved two things | Apr 13 15:51 |
| Sosumi | 1, don't overwork yourself | Apr 13 15:51 |
| Sosumi | 2, you need proper quality assurance aka do the code reviewing with your head in the right place | Apr 13 15:52 |
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| Sosumi | msb_ is at it again, trigger words, yes and standardized behaviour that come from the media and movies | Apr 13 15:54 |
| Sosumi | we "all" should know that | Apr 13 15:54 |
| Sosumi | but nvm | Apr 13 15:54 |
| Sosumi | or you'll blow it out of proportion as usual | Apr 13 15:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455357883958702080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455358098153406464 | Apr 13 15:54 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: Are you saying that when I note that most Americans are mind-controlled so they don't care if their government murders two million people, that I'm "blow[ing] it out of proportion" ? | Apr 13 15:57 |
| Sosumi | ppl are so jaded right now about everything that they resort to all sorts of escapism | Apr 13 15:58 |
| Sosumi | in order to not hear abou problems any more | Apr 13 15:58 |
| Sosumi | which takes to ask you if you know why the math book committed suicide | Apr 13 15:59 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: So your explanation is not that they're being mindcontrolled but that they're "jaded"? | Apr 13 15:59 |
| Sosumi | *me | Apr 13 15:59 |
| Sosumi | because it was filled it problems | Apr 13 15:59 |
| Sosumi | same thing, most folks can take 1 or 2 crisis at the same time | Apr 13 16:00 |
| msb_ | And yet people react to a single murder reported in the news. | Apr 13 16:00 |
| Sosumi | after that, puff mind blown and they can't take it anymore | Apr 13 16:00 |
| Sosumi | and there comes your prozac and alikes | Apr 13 16:01 |
| Sosumi | no idea of what goes on amerikkkan news channels | Apr 13 16:01 |
| Sosumi | I just report it how I observe it here | Apr 13 16:01 |
| Sosumi | in lisbon or in londistan | Apr 13 16:01 |
| msb_ | Well, the main thing is that our news never describes US atrocities accurately in context. | Apr 13 16:02 |
| msb_ | It always uses lying propaganda words like "insurgent". | Apr 13 16:02 |
| msb_ | The reason is simple: The US news media are controlled by the same ultra-wealthy psychopaths that control the US government. | Apr 13 16:03 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: The Underhanded C Contest is hilarious! | Apr 13 16:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thelocal.de/20140402/german-town-passau-bans-mother-from-calling-child-wikileaks | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz | But imposing Islam on baby is OK | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz | And in the UK the most common baby name is now an ethnic cleanser who married a 9-year-old after murdering her parents | Apr 13 16:27 |
| schestowitz | insurgent is a nebulous term | Apr 13 16:28 |
| schestowitz | you might as well call insugents the additional troops that the US send to invasions | Apr 13 16:29 |
| schestowitz | and remember who's being invader; reversal of roles here: people invade by trying to chase away an invader | Apr 13 16:29 |
| Sosumi | isn't that called amarikkkan exceptionalism | Apr 13 16:35 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: America imposed Islam on Afghanistan by arming the Mujahiddeen in the 80's as a way of making trouble for the USSR. | Apr 13 16:36 |
| msb_ | Islam, and the related Judaism and Christianity, all have a genocidal psychopath deity, and all promote male-supremacy. All are harmful and should not be imposed on anyone. http://www.evilbible.com/ | Apr 13 16:38 |
| msb_ | "insurgent" is a lying propaganda word used to label people who are trying to defend their country against a mass-murdering US invasion/takeover. That's what the word is used for. | Apr 13 16:40 |
| Sosumi | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY2Mjc | Apr 13 16:47 |
| Sosumi | "The GNOME Foundation Is Running Short On Money" | Apr 13 16:47 |
| Sosumi | gnome 3 is awesome, not | Apr 13 16:49 |
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| schestowitz | Sosumi: see the reason | Apr 13 17:14 |
| schestowitz | promotion of feminism is not cheap | Apr 13 17:14 |
| schestowitz | equality does not, IMHO, require PR | Apr 13 17:14 |
| schestowitz | and Karen Sandler recently stepped down | Apr 13 17:14 |
| schestowitz | she went back to SFLC | Apr 13 17:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455370228877504512 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455369176417579008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455368771554009088 | Apr 13 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The British army doesn’t want you to know what it did in Afghanistan http://t.co/irZF1Fs3aV http://t.co/0Ag3n0XmQf http://t.co/IEnLLUncaV | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.salon.com | The British army doesn’t want you to know what it did in Afghanistan - Salon.com | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk | MoD accused over Afghanistan book - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | Second army officer quits to reveal ‘human cost of Afghanistan’ - Home News - UK - The Independent | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "The UK authorities are trying to block their own report on Afghanistan." http://t.co/touI57HHHA #uk #censorship | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mintpressnews.com | The British Army Doesn’t Want You To Read This Book | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Wikileaks case: Chelsea Manning's appeals lawyer calls soldier's 35-year sentence excessive http://t.co/fLkAsSsMET 35 years proportional | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theprovince.com | Wikileaks case: Chelsea Manning's appeals lawyer calls soldier's 35-year sentence excessive | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455366097899126786 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455365446603386881 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455364965969698816 | Apr 13 17:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Patents allowed to impose a religion on a baby, but it's a name that the government deems "harmful" http://t.co/reHm6vUz0R | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | Parents banned from naming baby WikiLeaks after officials ruled it was potentially harmful - Europe - World - The Independent | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: German government denies a name http://t.co/od1HfJh1ZC US government had no issue with "Google" (surveillance company) | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> globalnews.ca | No, you can’t name your son WikiLeaks – and other bizarre baby names | Globalnews.ca | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #WikiLeaks Unveils #NETmundial 2014: 23 Governments Draft Agreement On 'The Future Of Internet' http://t.co/FOXHAUEjlW #security | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ibtimes.com | WikiLeaks Unveils NETmundial 2014: 23 Governments Draft Agreement On 'The Future Of Internet' | Apr 13 17:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455364132452458496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455363855389310976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455362311147241473 | Apr 13 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: DOJ Seeks Dismissal of Case Challenging NDAA Indefinite Detention http://t.co/h0jneNtbor #cia #torture for #us citizens also | Apr 13 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenewamerican.com | DOJ Seeks Dismissal of Case Challenging NDAA Indefinite Detention | Apr 13 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Al-Qaeda and #cia fighting common enemies http://t.co/Fh1Rax8Rne | Apr 13 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenewamerican.com | American-Backed Syrian Rebels Don't Mind Al-Qaeda Cohorts | Apr 13 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Thinking of Trying Linux Mint 16 Cinnemon on Old Systems http://t.co/Da0JbjXD29 #linuxmint #gnu #linux | Apr 13 17:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techspot.com | Thinking of Trying Linux Mint 16 Cinnemon on Old Systems - TechSpot Forums | Apr 13 17:17 | |
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| Sosumi | I didn't know that something like an equal rights for male and female devs required money | Apr 13 17:26 |
| Sosumi | like putting some PR stuff on their website like "everyone is welcome to contribute" | Apr 13 17:27 |
| Sosumi | doesn't seem like a money pit | Apr 13 17:27 |
| Sosumi | now if they misused the funds well, the ppl who did so must be held accountable | Apr 13 17:28 |
| Sosumi | but as for me, I'd just let gnome go | Apr 13 17:28 |
| schestowitz | doesn't red hat sponsor it? | Apr 13 17:35 |
| Sosumi | they do | Apr 13 17:36 |
| Sosumi | but I'd rather prefer that they didn't | Apr 13 17:36 |
| Sosumi | and instead supported mate or enlightenment or windowmaker | Apr 13 17:37 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/samsungs-cancer-stricken-workers-are-focus-of-new-debate-in-south-korea/ | Apr 13 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Samsung’s cancer-stricken workers are focus of fresh debate in South Korea | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h2kkb ] | Apr 13 17:44 | |
| cubezzz | write your own wm | Apr 13 17:50 |
| cubezzz | pick the toolkit you like... | Apr 13 17:50 |
| Sosumi | no time | Apr 13 17:51 |
| cubezzz | modern jwm compiles in 30 secs or less :) | Apr 13 18:11 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz, you there? | Apr 13 18:14 |
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| roy_ | sebsebseb: | Apr 13 21:18 |
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| _Goblin | What an interesting episode.....great stuff Roy...look forward to hearing it. | Apr 13 21:32 |
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| Sosumi | more news about the hypephone | Apr 13 22:08 |
| Sosumi | aside from the thiner design and a new cpu (so they say) | Apr 13 22:08 |
| Sosumi | it'll still keep the paltry 1 GB ram | Apr 13 22:08 |
| Sosumi | which is laughable at best | Apr 13 22:09 |
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| MinceR | not as laughable as the OS | Apr 13 22:09 |
| Sosumi | and no details about the next iteration of the lsdOS | Apr 13 22:10 |
| Sosumi | but the samsung fork of android doesn't seem that great either | Apr 13 22:16 |
| Sosumi | compared to the lsdOS | Apr 13 22:17 |
| Sosumi | one is lacking | Apr 13 22:17 |
| Sosumi | the other is bloated | Apr 13 22:17 |
| MinceR | my phone can handle that bloat :> | Apr 13 22:19 |
| Sosumi | which phone do you have? | Apr 13 22:19 |
| MinceR | samsung galaxy note ii lte | Apr 13 22:20 |
| Sosumi | has samsung already released the kitkat update for it? | Apr 13 22:21 |
| MinceR | dunno | Apr 13 22:23 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Apr 14 09:24 |
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| msb_ | Hi MinceR! | Apr 14 09:38 |
| msb_ | MinceR: If you're there, I think there's a simple set of economic concepts that we could both agree on, and thereby stop fighting with each other, bringing up the past, and telling each other to go live somewhere. If you're there, I'll lay it out. | Apr 14 09:47 |
| MinceR | i'm here | Apr 14 09:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 3.15-rc1 Was Just Released & It's Real | Apr 14 10:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 3.15-rc1 Was Just Released & It's Real Big | Tux Machines | Apr 14 10:11 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: OK, first some (alternative) sociology. There are two types of society -- Partnership and Dominator. In partnership societies everyone has fairly equivalent social standing, and they treat each other as they themselves would want to be treated. In dominator societies, there is substantial stratification in wealth and power, with those at the top exploiting those below. | Apr 14 10:14 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: These terms are used in the seminal book _The Chalice and the Blade_, by Riane Eisler. Essential reading! | Apr 14 10:15 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Dominator systems are run by psychopaths. | Apr 14 10:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Now to economics. Capitalism and Socialism each have Partnership and Dominator versions. | Apr 14 10:17 |
| msb_ | MinceR: For capitalism, and example of a partnership system would be a wonderful market I shop at. Every morning their trucks go to farms and farmers' markets and buy vegetables, bring them back to the urban market, and sell them cheaper than supermarkets -- often half the price. | Apr 14 10:19 |
| msb_ | MinceR: For dominator capitalism, an example is the US corporate/government system, which utilizes mass murder (millions of victims) for profit. 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, ... | Apr 14 10:21 |
| msb_ | MinceR: For partnership socialism, there's Nicaragua, which has a democratically elected socialist government, and sharing of resources such as agricultural equipment. For dominator socialism, there was Stalinist USSR. | Apr 14 10:23 |
| msb_ | MinceR's name is greyed out in the nick list. I hope he can scroll back when he returns. | Apr 14 10:24 |
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| Sosumi | msb_ again | Apr 14 10:47 |
| Sosumi | blowing everything out of proportion | Apr 14 10:47 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: Please clarify. | Apr 14 10:48 |
| MinceR | msb_: i'm processing it | Apr 14 10:49 |
| MinceR | msb_: the theory seems to make sense; i'm not sure about Nicaragua (or whether "partnership socialism" was ever implemented) | Apr 14 10:51 |
| MinceR | msb_: i'm looking up the book | Apr 14 10:51 |
| MinceR | maybe i'll rea dit | Apr 14 10:53 |
| MinceR | s/ d/d / | Apr 14 10:53 |
| MinceR | also, i'd say dominator capitalism occurs when the free market is distorted by market actors or the state, and/or when the state is captured by business, or vice versa | Apr 14 10:57 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Here's a good page of links in Eisler's website: http://www.partnershipway.org/about-cps/foundational-concepts/creating-a-partnership-culture | Apr 14 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.partnershipway.org | Creating A Partnership Culture — Center for Partnership Studies [ http://ur1.ca/h2ran ] | Apr 14 10:58 | |
| msb_ | and this one too: http://www.partnershipway.org/about-cps/foundational-concepts | Apr 14 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.partnershipway.org | Foundational Concepts — Center for Partnership Studies [ http://ur1.ca/h2rau ] | Apr 14 10:58 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: David Korten bases his social/economic ideas on partnership/dominator (From Empire to Community) -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPiZJ5N9TkY | Apr 14 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | David Korten - The Great Turning - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h2rbs ] | Apr 14 11:01 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: That video of Korten is *really* worth watching! | Apr 14 11:03 |
| MinceR | i can't watch videos at work, though | Apr 14 11:03 |
| msb_ | Can you watch it at home? | Apr 14 11:04 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 14 11:04 |
| msb_ | Great. | Apr 14 11:04 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Beyond the two problems of capitalism that you mentioned, another occurs when technology advances to the point where only a small fraction of the population has to work at 40hr/week jobs to produce enough goods and services for everyone. We reached that point some time ago, and have filled in with make-work jobs like advertising, drug enforcement, victimless crime enforcement and large prison populations, real estate and stock speculation, etc. | Apr 14 11:08 |
| msb_ | MinceR: But actual unemployment in the US is at about 25% and rising. Unless we adopt partnership principles of sharing and equality, we're going to have a lot of homeless starving people. | Apr 14 11:10 |
| MinceR | i'm not worried about that | Apr 14 11:10 |
| MinceR | if we can do menial work with machines, we can get more rest | Apr 14 11:10 |
| MinceR | as long as the same (or greater) value is produced, why worry about wasting less time with work? | Apr 14 11:11 |
| msb_ | Yes, but how do people get money if there are not jobs for them? | Apr 14 11:11 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Apr 14 11:11 |
| MinceR | what i do know is that once we manage to eliminate scarcity, it won't matter | Apr 14 11:11 |
| MinceR | and technology will be instrumental in that | Apr 14 11:12 |
| msb_ | We can already eliminate scarcity. | Apr 14 11:12 |
| MinceR | hopefully people can gradually transition to more mental jobs in the meantime | Apr 14 11:12 |
| msb_ | 99% of the wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population. | Apr 14 11:12 |
| msb_ | If it were spread around better, there'd be no scarcity. | Apr 14 11:12 |
| msb_ | There aren't enough mental jobs to soak up the unemployed. | Apr 14 11:13 |
| msb_ | Not nearly enough. | Apr 14 11:13 |
| MinceR | competition is pretty lacking in several markets, more jobs could be created there | Apr 14 11:14 |
| msb_ | In the limiting case, machines will provide all goods and services. But no one will have a job or money, so they won't be able to buy any. | Apr 14 11:14 |
| msb_ | Competition is just another kind of make-work. | Apr 14 11:14 |
| MinceR | except it's useful | Apr 14 11:15 |
| msb_ | Lots of different car companies doing the same R&D. It's a waste of effort. | Apr 14 11:15 |
| MinceR | without scarcity, nobody will need to buy anything | Apr 14 11:15 |
| MinceR | not necessarily the same R&D | Apr 14 11:15 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of different paths | Apr 14 11:15 |
| msb_ | But in capitalism, someone always owns the machines, and will require payment for their products. | Apr 14 11:16 |
| msb_ | Ownership of the producing machines in common, and free access to their products is ...Socialism! | Apr 14 11:16 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if those concepts have meaning when there's no scarcity | Apr 14 11:17 |
| msb_ | But what does "no scarcity" mean? Who owns the machines that creates the goods and services? | Apr 14 11:19 |
| msb_ | creates--> create | Apr 14 11:19 |
| MinceR | everyone could own a swarm of nanobots that could be used to build the tools that are needed | Apr 14 11:21 |
| MinceR | for example | Apr 14 11:21 |
| msb_ | If the richest 1% didn't suck up 99% of the wealth now, we could all work 16hrs/week and have plenty. | Apr 14 11:21 |
| MinceR | it could even be part of their body | Apr 14 11:21 |
| msb_ | Nanobots are in the far future. What we have now is computer-controlled robotic machines. They can produce almost everything we need, but if they are owned by capitalists, no one will have a job to get money to buy the machines' products. | Apr 14 11:23 |
| msb_ | Nanobots are also very dangerous -- the "gray goo" problem. | Apr 14 11:24 |
| msb_ | A little programming error, and the whole planet is consumed. | Apr 14 11:24 |
| MinceR | don't let microsoft and apple program them, then | Apr 14 11:25 |
| msb_ | Anyone will be able to program them, and some will make mistakes. | Apr 14 11:25 |
| MinceR | then we will have countermeasures | Apr 14 11:26 |
| cubezzz | someone has to fix the robots, unless you develop robots that can fix other robots | Apr 14 11:26 |
| cubezzz | Mincer :) | Apr 14 11:26 |
| msb_ | IIRC, Drexler said that everything on Earth will have to have a coating of defensive nanomachines to protect it. Every blade of grass! | Apr 14 11:27 |
| cubezzz | all those pie in the sky predictions never come true though | Apr 14 11:27 |
| msb_ | Let's hope not! | Apr 14 11:27 |
| cubezzz | no HAL 9000, no true AI | Apr 14 11:27 |
| cubezzz | a self-programming computer, laughable | Apr 14 11:28 |
| MinceR | what's laughable about that? | Apr 14 11:28 |
| msb_ | But even a stupid AI, if programmed to protect itself and connected to military resources, could take over. | Apr 14 11:28 |
| cubezzz | we got windows instead | Apr 14 11:28 |
| MinceR | windows is dying | Apr 14 11:28 |
| cubezzz | no computer can do what a human baby does | Apr 14 11:29 |
| msb_ | Asimov wrote various stories about robes that figured out how to circumvent the Three Laws! | Apr 14 11:29 |
| MinceR | a human baby might be a computer | Apr 14 11:29 |
| MinceR | and a future human baby might contain computers :> | Apr 14 11:30 |
| cubezzz | augmentation, yes | Apr 14 11:31 |
| cubezzz | that's possible | Apr 14 11:31 |
| msb_ | A clever but immoral lawyerbot could trash the Three Laws in microseconds! | Apr 14 11:31 |
| MinceR | and human babies can exist in a universe simulated by a computer | Apr 14 11:31 |
| cubezzz | progress is happening, it's just slower than Sci-Fi predicted, much much slower | Apr 14 11:32 |
| MinceR | also, every blade of grass is already constantly fighting with pathogens on the cellular scale :> | Apr 14 11:33 |
| cubezzz | my desktop hasn't really changed much in the last 10 years | Apr 14 11:47 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/old-desktop-2005.png | Apr 14 11:47 |
| msb_ | MinceR: But those pathogens had to *evolve* their methods of attack -- very slow. Nanomachines, with nanocomputers, could simulate and evaluate attacks zillions of times faster. The poor blade of grass wouldn't have a chance without a layer of protective nanomachnes. | Apr 14 11:48 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/desktop-2014.png | Apr 14 11:49 |
| MinceR | msb_: not necessarily a layer -- the nanomachines could also be inside the blade of grass | Apr 14 11:50 |
| msb_ | And inside every food crop. Those diamond-based machines would make 'em really crunchy! | Apr 14 11:51 |
| MinceR | they could be ordered to come out | Apr 14 11:51 |
| msb_ | "Sorry, we like it here." | Apr 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | then send in the killer nanomachines | Apr 14 11:52 |
| MinceR | also, i'm not sure how much we'd need food crops once we're infused with nanomachines and quite possibly not human anymore :> | Apr 14 11:52 |
| msb_ | I believe STTOS dealt with that situation: "EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out... programming! " | Apr 14 11:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 14 11:54 |
| msb_ | If only Ruk had squeezed Kirk a little harder... | Apr 14 11:54 |
| cubezzz | mind transfer | Apr 14 11:56 |
| cubezzz | some philosophical implications there | Apr 14 11:57 |
| msb_ | STTOS and Kirk trashed every single instance of advanced technology they could find, including immortality. | Apr 14 11:57 |
| cubezzz | ok, now we will upload your mind into windows 35 | Apr 14 11:57 |
| cubezzz | uhhh, no thanks :) | Apr 14 11:57 |
| cubezzz | he didn't trash Trelane's parents | Apr 14 11:58 |
| cubezzz | not sure if that counts as tech though | Apr 14 11:58 |
| msb_ | Anyhow What Are Little Girls Made Of? was self-contradictory. Kirk's justification for destroying the bot-creation machinery was that the resulting ghost-in-the-shell had no emotions. But the "native" bots did. It could have been fixed. But no immortality for us! | Apr 14 12:01 |
| cubezzz | the Thasians were also quite advanced | Apr 14 12:01 |
| cubezzz | lots of uber-aliens in TOS | Apr 14 12:01 |
| msb_ | When Spock got happy in another ep, Kirk made some sound generator that ruined it. What a schmuck! | Apr 14 12:02 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 14 12:02 |
| cubezzz | another thing we don't really have that TOS did: computers you can talk to | Apr 14 12:03 |
| msb_ | *Working* | Apr 14 12:03 |
| MinceR | we can talk to any computer | Apr 14 12:07 |
| MinceR | not many of them listen, though :> | Apr 14 12:07 |
| cubezzz | the last big step forward was www | Apr 14 12:08 |
| msb_ | WWW/Linux/FOSS is the nervous system of the evolving World Community | Apr 14 12:19 |
| MinceR | what about IRC? :> | Apr 14 12:19 |
| msb_ | Dat's good too! | Apr 14 12:19 |
| cubezzz | IRC predates WWW :) | Apr 14 12:20 |
| cubezzz | of course Microsoft had to try and muck things up with MSNP | Apr 14 12:21 |
| MinceR | and IRCX | Apr 14 12:22 |
| msb_ | With WWW/Linux/FOSS, Cannabis, and Partnership/Eisler/Korten sociology, we can have a "soft landing" from the current fascist control system. Everybody just relax, give the fascist rulers tens of millions of dollars each if they promise not to make any more trouble.. | Apr 14 12:23 |
| cubezzz | I've found there | Apr 14 12:25 |
| cubezzz | 's another force in software beyond Embrace, Extend, Entinguish | Apr 14 12:25 |
| msb_ | Psychopaths can only survive inside a cloud of lying propaganda that hides them. But with the Web, they are entirely exposed. | Apr 14 12:25 |
| msb_ | Evolve! | Apr 14 12:26 |
| cubezzz | there's also abandonment and resurrection | Apr 14 12:26 |
| msb_ | Resurrection (1980) with Ellen Burstyn is a great movie! *Not* xtian propaganda. | Apr 14 12:27 |
| cubezzz | s/eh/ex/ | Apr 14 12:27 |
| cubezzz | s/en/ex/ :-P | Apr 14 12:27 |
| MinceR | s/En/Ex/ :> | Apr 14 12:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://t.co/5vV90nvSzx Server 1.14.6 & | Apr 14 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5vV90nvSzx Server 1.15.1 Released | Apr 14 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0owJKCPPWT | Apr 14 12:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cool and flexible: The Linux alternative | Apr 14 12:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/pcOUYdPpMZ | Apr 14 12:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org | xorg | Apr 14 12:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | X.Org Server 1.14.6 & X.Org Server 1.15.1 Released | Tux Machines | Apr 14 13:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cool and flexible: The Linux alternative | Tux Machines | Apr 14 13:00 | |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/04/windows-phone-8-1-review-a-magnificent-smartphone-platform/ | Apr 14 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Windows Phone 8.1 review: a magnificent smartphone platform | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h2sb9 ] | Apr 14 13:44 | |
| *cubezzz gags | Apr 14 13:45 | |
| Sosumi | but no mention of how much data the phone gathers from the user | Apr 14 13:45 |
| Sosumi | and transmits to M$ | Apr 14 13:45 |
| cubezzz | I'm having a devil of a time with this lit file :-/ | Apr 14 13:46 |
| msb_ | There's a copy of Resurrection (1980) in Usenet. Maybe the best movie ever made! | Apr 14 13:46 |
| msb_ | Or pay $20 to amazon for a disk. | Apr 14 13:47 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: What's a lit file? | Apr 14 13:47 |
| cubezzz | msb_, it's a file from Hell :) | Apr 14 13:47 |
| cubezzz | a type of ebook, microsoft only | Apr 14 13:47 |
| msb_ | Type of e-book? | Apr 14 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines With Death of Windows XP, Now Is Perfect Time | Apr 14 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Switch to Linux http://t.co/sqHYr06VPH | Apr 14 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h2sc1 | Apr 14 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | With Death of Windows XP, Now Is Perfect Time to Switch to Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 14 13:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @BigDickStallman @tuxmachines When will you peons learn? It's | Apr 14 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | called GNU/Linux, NOT Linux. | Apr 14 13:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h2sc2 | Apr 14 13:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @methadonna retweeted @BigDickStallman: '@tuxmachines When will you peons learn? It's called...' | Apr 14 13:48 | |
| MinceR | he has a point | Apr 14 13:49 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: Never thought I'd say this, but apparently there's a "clit" program for that. | Apr 14 13:50 |
| msb_ | google for linux "lit file" | Apr 14 13:50 |
| cubezzz | doesn't compile unfortunately | Apr 14 13:52 |
| msb_ | Probably just needs a little massaging. | Apr 14 13:54 |
| msb_ | It's just text-to-text, after all. | Apr 14 13:54 |
| cubezzz | it's encrypted | Apr 14 13:55 |
| msb_ | Ick! | Apr 14 13:55 |
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| msb_ | The lit file is encrypted? | Apr 14 13:56 |
| cubezzz | yes | Apr 14 13:56 |
| msb_ | Have to go to Redmond and beat it out of them! | Apr 14 13:56 |
| msb_ | What's the book? | Apr 14 13:56 |
| cubezzz | just a startrek book, nothing important :) | Apr 14 13:56 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, it needs libtommath.a for some reason | Apr 14 13:58 |
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| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/russian_market/status/455670226278158336 | Apr 14 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@russian_market: Oops. The acting PM of Ukraine Yatsenyuk meets the Swiss President in Kiev by Danish flag. - Time to grow up, kids! http://t.co/hdk1fh2SwU | Apr 14 14:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@russian_market: Oops. The acting PM of Ukraine Yatsenyuk meets the Swiss President in Kiev by Danish flag. - Time to grow up, kids! http://t.co/hdk1fh2SwU | Apr 14 14:31 | |
| Sosumi | lol | Apr 14 14:31 |
| Sosumi | now there's a case to yell | Apr 14 14:32 |
| Sosumi | FALSE FLAG! | Apr 14 14:32 |
| MinceR | "Definite proof that people who captured Slavyansk police department aren't russians:" | Apr 14 14:35 |
| MinceR | http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=217237&d=1397477131 | Apr 14 14:35 |
| Sosumi | are they emptying vodka bottles into the ground? | Apr 14 14:36 |
| MinceR | that's what it looks like | Apr 14 14:38 |
| Sosumi | what a crime | Apr 14 14:38 |
| MinceR | but then again, it could be just about any clear liquid | Apr 14 14:38 |
| Sosumi | well even if it was water | Apr 14 14:38 |
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| DaemonFC | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/04/13/1454215/the-gnome-foundation-is-running-out-of-money | Apr 14 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | The GNOME Foundation Is Running Out of Money - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/h2t9q ] | Apr 14 15:19 | |
| DaemonFC | The mail truck is here. | Apr 14 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | As soon as I get that modem, I can call Comcast and tell them to take theirs off of my account. :) | Apr 14 15:32 |
| Sosumi | in soviet russia, the modem gets you | Apr 14 15:49 |
| MinceR | In Soviet Russia, browser keeps tabs on YOU!! | Apr 14 15:49 |
| MinceR | In capitalism, man exploits man. In socialism, it's the other way around. | Apr 14 15:50 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 14 15:50 |
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| DaemonFC | Amazon sent me a wifi range extender instead of my cable modem. | Apr 14 16:40 |
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| DaemonFC | I called to complain, and they sent me a return label and said that they'd get me my modem shipped out by UPS overnight. | Apr 14 16:41 |
| Sosumi | and I thinking they'd deliver it by the hand of a real amazon | Apr 14 16:43 |
| Sosumi | silly me for thinking such thing... | Apr 14 16:44 |
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| abeNd-org | yea, only problem with those amazon goddesses is if you don't pass their tests, they kill you on the spot | Apr 14 17:06 |
| DaemonFC | I reviewed my Chromebook. | Apr 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | and Chrome OS | Apr 14 17:49 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi: It pisses me off. It's either a mispick or they have the wrong item at the picking location. | Apr 14 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | If I get another wifi range extender tomorrow, I'm going to be fuming. | Apr 14 17:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Arrives on April | Apr 14 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 17, Three Features to Look Forward to | Apr 14 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/WXtV7C0PEU | Apr 14 17:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h2vpw | Apr 14 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Arrives on April 17, Three Features to Look Forward to | Tux Machines | Apr 14 17:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Then there's Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Support Klingon Edition. | Apr 14 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | The Trusty Targ. | Apr 14 18:02 |
| MinceR | http://topekasnews.com/oklahoma-protesters-threaten-secdee-union-neil-degrasse-tysons-cosmos-cancelled/ | Apr 14 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-topekasnews.com | Oklahoma Protesters Threaten to "Secdee" From Union if Neil DeGrasse Tyson's Cosmos is not Cancelled - Topekas News | Apr 14 18:16 | |
| MinceR | i say let them Secdee. | Apr 14 18:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Did the GNOME Foundation spend too much money | Apr 14 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on women’s outreach? http://t.co/KDCFluufb1 | Apr 14 18:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Did the GNOME Foundation spend too much money on women’s outreach? | Tux Machines | Apr 14 18:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 21 Gets Proposals For Many More Features | Apr 14 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iyXNobewrD | Apr 14 18:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 21 Gets Proposals For Many More Features | Tux Machines | Apr 14 18:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ozon OS Will Be One of the Most Beautiful Linux | Apr 14 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distros http://t.co/6qDrQ7h1mV | Apr 14 18:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ozon OS Will Be One of the Most Beautiful Linux Distros | Tux Machines | Apr 14 18:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.2 Released With System Settings | Apr 14 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, HiDPI support And More | Apr 14 18:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/m0BzW1FVVc | Apr 14 18:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.2 Released With System Settings Improvements, HiDPI support And More | Tux Machines | Apr 14 18:21 | |
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| Sosumi | http://semiaccurate.com/2014/04/10/samsung-breaks-intel-xeon-ndas-press-release/ | Apr 14 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-semiaccurate.com | Samsung breaks Intel Xeon NDAs in a press release - SemiAccurate [ http://ur1.ca/h2w62 ] | Apr 14 19:15 | |
| Sosumi | justifying their ramp up for ddr4 ram | Apr 14 19:16 |
| Sosumi | tom ryan of semmiacurate | Apr 14 19:21 |
| Sosumi | This brings me to another point that I’d like to make about clutter. Windows 8 started out with a very minimalist UI that has with every update become not only more like its predecessors but also more cluttered with additional ways to complete the same basic task. Do users really need this many ways to get to the same apps and settings? More to the point though, with the impending return of the start menu we’ll have yet another way to a | Apr 14 19:21 |
| Sosumi | ccess the same apps and settings. When will users be satisfied; and more importantly when will Microsoft quit giving its users a half-dozen ways to reinvent the wheel? | Apr 14 19:21 |
| Sosumi | all true | Apr 14 19:21 |
| cubezzz | I'm still waiting for OEMs to break away from M$ | Apr 14 19:30 |
| MinceR | so am i | Apr 14 19:31 |
| cubezzz | Be was in discussions with Dell, Compaq, Micron and Hitachi | Apr 14 19:37 |
| cubezzz | only Hitachi actually shipped computers with BeOS | Apr 14 19:37 |
| cubezzz | and the story is even sadder than that | Apr 14 19:38 |
| cubezzz | Hitachi made changes to the boot loader rendering BeOS invisible to the consumer before they shipped | Apr 14 19:38 |
| cubezzz | it was the Flora Prius | Apr 14 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | I love my Chromebook. | Apr 14 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think I'm going to be buying another tablet. | Apr 14 19:39 |
| cubezzz | so it was Win98 and invisible BeOS | Apr 14 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | BeOS wasn't terribly well designed. | Apr 14 19:40 |
| MinceR | probably still a lot better designed than any m$ produc | Apr 14 19:40 |
| MinceR | t | Apr 14 19:40 |
| MinceR | it doesn't take much | Apr 14 19:40 |
| cubezzz | there's still Haiku | Apr 14 19:41 |
| cubezzz | but the point kind of was... an OEM tried to stand up to the big M and they got "visited" | Apr 14 19:41 |
| cubezzz | then the boot loader was changed | Apr 14 19:41 |
| cubezzz | this was around 1998-1999 | Apr 14 19:43 |
| cubezzz | for FREE mind you | Apr 14 19:43 |
| cubezzz | Be Corp was offering BeOS for free to OEMs | Apr 14 19:43 |
| cubezzz | seems to me the DOJ didn't kick the right butts | Apr 14 19:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DPL election is over, Lucas Nussbaum re-elected | Apr 14 19:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Acm9zAdJI3 | Apr 14 19:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GCC 4.9 Compiler Optimization Benchmarks For | Apr 14 19:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Faster Binaries http://t.co/p96Kw6tBWs | Apr 14 19:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DPL election is over, Lucas Nussbaum re-elected | Tux Machines | Apr 14 19:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 4.9 Compiler Optimization Benchmarks For Faster Binaries | Tux Machines | Apr 14 19:57 | |
| DaemonFC | I talked to my former landlord. | Apr 14 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | He said that he thinks that with my credit, I could get a mortgage at 3%. | Apr 14 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm tired of renting and having a landlord telling me who I can have over at my house, and nosy neighbors that report you if you have a guest over for more than 4 days.... | Apr 14 19:58 |
| amarsh04 | I've just had a bit of a back and forth on the ffmpeg bug tracker - there are problems compiling it under gcc-4.9.0 RC1 | Apr 14 19:59 |
| amarsh04 | as in, code compiles, but doesn't run properly | Apr 14 20:00 |
| amarsh04 | meanwhile the linux kernel has compiled and run ok under development releases of gcc-4.9 for quite a while | Apr 14 20:01 |
| cubezzz | this sums things up quite well: | Apr 14 20:02 |
| cubezzz | http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/ | Apr 14 20:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.birdhouse.org | He Who Controls the Bootloader [ http://ur1.ca/gdhk ] | Apr 14 20:02 | |
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| cubezzz | Sosumi, ha I just scrolled back | Apr 14 20:21 |
| cubezzz | no, I've never owned or even operated a cell phone of any kind | Apr 14 20:21 |
| cubezzz | but if I did it would be a dynatac :) | Apr 14 20:22 |
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| Sosumi | buuuuuuuu | Apr 14 20:28 |
| Sosumi | you should have a nokia 8110 instead | Apr 14 20:29 |
| Sosumi | and a pair of shades | Apr 14 20:29 |
| Sosumi | because you are that kewl | Apr 14 20:29 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 14 20:29 |
| cubezzz | I was the first one out of the Matrix :) | Apr 14 20:29 |
| cubezzz | actually it feels more like I'm older than the matrix | Apr 14 20:32 |
| Sosumi | maybe the matrix is all in your head | Apr 14 20:32 |
| Sosumi | and "we" are nothing but mere pawns at the mercy of you | Apr 14 20:33 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 14 20:33 |
| MinceR | lol nokia | Apr 14 20:34 |
| Sosumi | http://fails.net/fails/nokia-tyres.jpg | Apr 14 20:36 |
| cubezzz | minimalism, not solipsism :) | Apr 14 20:42 |
| MinceR | that's nokian now | Apr 14 20:43 |
| MinceR | and has been for a long time | Apr 14 20:44 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Apr 14 20:45 |
| Sosumi | never seen nokia tyres on sale here | Apr 14 20:45 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 14 20:45 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Apr 14 20:46 |
| Sosumi | are are your tyres treating you? | Apr 14 20:46 |
| Sosumi | *how | Apr 14 20:46 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-cleaner.jpg | Apr 14 20:48 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 14 20:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UK's IT security agency: Communities are key | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for standards http://t.co/ZJU3uRjxf5 | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.2 http://t.co/yW69Ic31K3 | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It Doesn't Look Like AMD Mantle Is Coming To | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux, SteamOS http://t.co/JwvriQAWLQ | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to run XP on Linux Mint with Oracle | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | VirtualBox http://t.co/DEGoWZJfOe | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Touch Version So Far | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/umh6JZRCTO | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Maxwell GPUs Light Up On | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 3.15 http://t.co/3wuzmlSceQ | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UK's IT security agency: Communities are key for standards | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) to Reach End of | Apr 14 20:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Life by the End of April http://t.co/eB3H9v65YR | Apr 14 20:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.2 | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It Doesn't Look Like AMD Mantle Is Coming To Linux, SteamOS | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to run XP on Linux Mint with Oracle VirtualBox | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced Ubuntu Touch Version So Far | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Maxwell GPUs Light Up On Linux 3.15 | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) to Reach End of Life by the End of April | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:52 | |
| roy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrH_zkWGIHM&feature=youtu.be4 | Apr 14 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Baby Orangutan Rickina! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h2wzq ] | Apr 14 20:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qt4 Music Player `YaRock` 0.9.66 Released With | Apr 14 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Internet Radio Stream Search, More | Apr 14 20:59 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RanjibDey retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced Ubuntu...' | Apr 14 20:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt4 Music Player `YaRock` 0.9.66 Released With Internet Radio Stream Search, More | Tux Machines | Apr 14 20:59 | |
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| roy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhnnYv6Cx5k4 | Apr 14 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Sinkhole swallows 3 cars in Chicago - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h2x84 ] | Apr 14 21:33 | |
| roy_ | US in 2013 | Apr 14 21:33 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @RedditUbuntu favourited 'Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced Ubuntu...' | Apr 14 22:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat announces OpenShift Marketplace | Apr 14 22:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Jrj0qcylly | Apr 14 22:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/1rRf5gUlb6 | Apr 14 22:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/OJJBqH3ZIK | Apr 14 22:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/H8P7BZCb0A | Apr 14 22:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat announces OpenShift Marketplace | Tux Machines | Apr 14 22:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Apr 14 22:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 14 22:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 14 22:52 | |
| msb_ | cubezzz: The Matrix is very real and has been around for many centuries. Way before Bernays. JCI religion is a big part of it. But you were among those who awakened in the 20th Century. When were you born? | Apr 14 23:01 |
| msb_ | Early enough to buy a VIC-20! | Apr 14 23:03 |
| msb_ | And an Amiga. http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/Amiga.jpg | Apr 14 23:05 |
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| cubezzz | 1965 | Apr 14 23:34 |
| cubezzz | the amiga and the vic-20 still work | Apr 14 23:35 |
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| graham | hey | Apr 14 23:47 |
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| Guest90063 | anyone know how to contact the Techrights.org team? | Apr 14 23:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Spent all day helping the bf fill out job applications. | Apr 15 02:14 |
| DaemonFC | He's had a couple of calls for interviews already. | Apr 15 02:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/eoD739YU6j | Apr 15 03:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Apr 15 03:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.2 out not, ready for Linux Mint 17 | Apr 15 07:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.2 out not, ready for Linux Mint 17 | Tux Machines | Apr 15 07:22 | |
| MinceR | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cloud-to-butt-plus/apmlngnhgbnjpajelfkmabhkfapgnoai?hl=en | Apr 15 07:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chrome.google.com | Chrome Web Store - Cloud To Butt Plus [ http://ur1.ca/h31h4 ] | Apr 15 07:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New MakuluLinux Released and Reviewed | Apr 15 09:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux and the Post-XP Cry for Help | Apr 15 09:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New MakuluLinux Released and Reviewed | Tux Machines | Apr 15 09:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android TV box to run KitKat on quad-core | Apr 15 09:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cortex-A17 http://t.co/ub2TEup0zv | Apr 15 09:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and the Post-XP Cry for Help | Tux Machines | Apr 15 09:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android TV box to run KitKat on quad-core Cortex-A17 | Tux Machines | Apr 15 09:15 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Apr 15 09:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Hi! Did you watch that video of David Korten? | Apr 15 12:34 |
| MinceR | not yet | Apr 15 12:34 |
| msb_ | It's all about changing the story, the context, in your mind through which you see things. | Apr 15 12:36 |
| msb_ | MinceR: He's not saying people should give up their private propitty. But we should have sharing and empathy as primary values shaping our economic system so that everyone can thrive, not just those at the top and the (ever-shrinking now) middle. | Apr 15 12:39 |
| msb_ | MinceR: There's a deep, fundamental difference between families having their own home, cars, etc., and Monsanto and Microsoft having so much money that they can hurt people and buy the government, and no one can stop them. | Apr 15 12:41 |
| MinceR | i think the main problem there is that m$ is incentivized to do harm | Apr 15 12:42 |
| MinceR | and not punished | Apr 15 12:42 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Conservatives and Libertarians always point us toward families, so we conclude that, of course they should have their private property. But they point us away from the ultra-wealthy and corporations that harm people for profit with their private property. | Apr 15 12:43 |
| MinceR | what has liberalism have to do with families? | Apr 15 12:44 |
| msb_ | Psychopaths can always find ways to make a profit by harming people. Reality incentivizes them. | Apr 15 12:44 |
| msb_ | Liberalism says (or at least should say) that the economic system should help families to thrive, instead of taking 99% of the wealth and giving it to the 1% richest people, which is what we have now. | Apr 15 12:46 |
| msb_ | MinceR: If rich people were satisfied when they had enough wealth to live, or even 10 or 100 times the amount they need to live, everything would be fine, because they'd leave the rest for the non-rich. | Apr 15 12:50 |
| msb_ | MinceR: But they're never satisfied. A pigeon in a Skinner-box keeps pecking the switch until the cage fills up with food and it suffocates. But the wealthy under capitalism keep grabbing more and more until the non-wealthy 99% starve and lose their homes. | Apr 15 12:52 |
| MinceR | punishment and incapacitation disincentivizes psychopaths. | Apr 15 12:53 |
| msb_ | So how would you punish and incapacitate corporate owners who keep most of the profits for themselves instead of paying most of it to their workers as wages? | Apr 15 12:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Even though the corporate owners say that the profits belong to them as "private property" because they own the corporations. | Apr 15 12:56 |
| msb_ | MinceR: That's how the "private propery" concept causes harm when it's extended to the realm of great wealth. | Apr 15 12:57 |
| MinceR | that's when the corporate veil needs to be pierced. | Apr 15 13:01 |
| cubezzz | well one way to share the wealth is to buy shares | Apr 15 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Slick Ubuntu Mobile OS previewed again, but | Apr 15 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | we’re still waiting for a release date | Apr 15 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aEvq4UR4fL | Apr 15 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h35iz | Apr 15 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS LXDE 2014.04 Is a Light and Poweful | Apr 15 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Distribution http://t.co/sQRpkr7mQ0 | Apr 15 13:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h35j0 | Apr 15 13:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slick Ubuntu Mobile OS previewed again, but we’re still waiting for a release date | Tux Machines | Apr 15 13:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS LXDE 2014.04 Is a Light and Poweful Linux Distribution | Tux Machines | Apr 15 13:22 | |
| cubezzz | e.g. in 2003 I bought some red hat shares, I shared in the wealth of the company | Apr 15 13:22 |
| cubezzz | of course you need some money to get started | Apr 15 13:24 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: But once the corporate veil is pierced, what's the next step? If the main crime being committed by corporate owners is paying the workers too little and keeping too much for themselves, how do you fix that within the current rules/framework of capitalism? | Apr 15 13:32 |
| MinceR | that doesn't seem to be the main crime in the case you quoted | Apr 15 13:32 |
| MinceR | also, i see no reason why workers should be stuck with microsoft, other than microsoft making it difficult or impossible for competitors to exist and operate | Apr 15 13:33 |
| msb_ | That's the main crime in general! | Apr 15 13:33 |
| msb_ | That's why 1% of the population has 99% of the wealth, and the other 99% of the people have to make do on a total of 1%. | Apr 15 13:34 |
| msb_ | That's a wealth ratio of 10,000 to 1 ! | Apr 15 13:38 |
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| cubezzz | this is old but still interesting: | Apr 15 13:58 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/storming-castle-redmond.jpg | Apr 15 13:58 |
| cubezzz | I declare victory over Encarta :) | Apr 15 14:00 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 15 14:02 |
| cubezzz | some stats say that IE is less than 25% now, a huge change | Apr 15 14:03 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Apr 15 14:13 |
| msb_ | Here's a picture of an annoyed penguin: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/kmfms-final.jpg | Apr 15 14:16 |
| MinceR | KMFMS is a nice site | Apr 15 14:16 |
| msb_ | Yes, that bird is slightly ticked-off. | Apr 15 14:19 |
| msb_ | KMFMS stands for Kein Mitleid Für MicroSoft. It's a German acronym meaning "no pity for Microsoft." | Apr 15 14:22 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 15 14:23 |
| msb_ | From their FAQ. | Apr 15 14:24 |
| MinceR | i've read it | Apr 15 14:24 |
| msb_ | Here's another PO'ed penguin: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/Linux_Wallpaper_Good_evening_Mr_Gates_Ill_Be_Your_Server_01.jpg | Apr 15 14:30 |
| msb_ | Does that look too dark too anyone else? I had to boost my gamma a bit to see the darker parts. | Apr 15 14:32 |
| msb_ | too-->to | Apr 15 14:32 |
| msb_ | e.g., his face | Apr 15 14:33 |
| MinceR | looks fine here | Apr 15 14:33 |
| cubezzz | haha | Apr 15 14:36 |
| cubezzz | there should be a tooth flying out of his mouth to complete the effect | Apr 15 14:36 |
| cubezzz | yeah no kidding no pity | Apr 15 14:38 |
| cubezzz | no pity for stealing PDP-10 computer time | Apr 15 14:38 |
| msb_ | I like this one a little better: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/Linux_Wallpaper_Good_evening_Mr_Gates_Ill_Be_Your_Server_01G2A.jpg | Apr 15 14:42 |
| cubezzz | you lose contrast by boosting the gamma too much | Apr 15 14:43 |
| msb_ | My settings are such that the KMFMS pic looks fine, but this one needs gamma=2 | Apr 15 14:44 |
| msb_ | No wonder people need $2000 photometry setups to get this right. | Apr 15 14:45 |
| cubezzz | folks are way too pedestrian in their choices of operating systems | Apr 15 14:46 |
| cubezzz | back in the 80s we really did have more choices | Apr 15 14:46 |
| cubezzz | there was Apple, Atari, Commodore, and Tandy (probably other ones I've forgotten) | Apr 15 14:46 |
| msb_ | Back then most computer users were knowledgeable about computers. Now everybody has one, and very few know much about them. | Apr 15 14:47 |
| msb_ | Those who do use Linux, of course. | Apr 15 14:48 |
| msb_ | Anyhow, I'm using the settings that make most movies look right, and it needs gamma 2 on the server pic. | Apr 15 14:49 |
| cubezzz | this is a list of what I actually use: | Apr 15 14:51 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.or/other/os-usage-list.txt | Apr 15 14:51 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/os-usage-list.txt | Apr 15 14:51 |
| msb_ | OMG is that the Brain From Planet AROS? | Apr 15 14:52 |
| MinceR | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aEwQmqK_460sa.gif | Apr 15 14:52 |
| cubezzz | haha | Apr 15 14:54 |
| cubezzz | that was Arous, not Aros :) | Apr 15 14:55 |
| cubezzz | AROS is an open source version of AmigaDos 3.1 | Apr 15 14:55 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Wow, that is one seriously weird gif file! | Apr 15 15:06 |
| msb_ | I wanted to single-step it. mplayer wouldn't play it (no surprise). I fed it to xv, which gave about 400 error messages and wouldn't quit! When I deleted each one it put up another, and when I switched to another desktop it came back and put the error message under the mouse pointer. I wanted to type killall xv but I couldn't. Eventually it ran down and quit. Gwenview (and firefox) display it, but I don't know how to make either one pause. | Apr 15 15:09 |
| msb_ | On another topic, I hope everyone has seen the movie Antitrust (2001). If not, there's a good copy of it in that naughty place right now. | Apr 15 15:12 |
| cubezzz | the gimp might be able to single step an animated gif | Apr 15 15:12 |
| MinceR | i just watched it in firefox :> | Apr 15 15:15 |
| msb_ | Sure, it plays fine in firefox. A great work of art! but it goes by too fast to see some of the details. | Apr 15 15:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Or do you mean Antitrust? | Apr 15 15:16 |
| MinceR | the gif | Apr 15 15:17 |
| MinceR | i did have to go through a few cycles to see some of the details, though | Apr 15 15:17 |
| msb_ | Pretty wild! | Apr 15 15:19 |
| DaemonFC | 2 secs · | Apr 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | Someone told me something that I found to be disturbing a couple of days ago. | Apr 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | The school systems in Indiana are not just wasting taxpayer dollars on Crapple iBads anymore. They're forcing parents, even poor ones, to pay full price for these malicious, proprietary, user-subjugating devices. | Apr 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | To add insult to injury, the schools *could* buy Chromebooks for $150 each that do everything the iBad can and more, which shows how wasteful their buying practices are. | Apr 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | Crapple takes the money from the government contracts, and uses some of it to turn around and buy our elections, making sure that politicians force parents and taxpayers to buy more Crapple iCrap later on. | Apr 15 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | 2 secs · | Apr 15 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | Then, while all this expensive Crapple iCrap is being "procured", I got a letter in the mail the other day from Dan Leonard, telling us how frugal the Indiana Politburo Republicans are being with our money. | Apr 15 15:33 |
| DaemonFC | There's nothing like fascism that comes back and pisses on you while it's telling you that it's raining. | Apr 15 15:33 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 15 15:34 |
| msb_ | The IPud doesn't have a real keyboard, so it's pretty tedious to *originate* content. Tablets are designed for consumption of content, and users should keep their mouths shut. | Apr 15 15:42 |
| msb_ | When tablets become fully voice-operated, users will be called Eloi. | Apr 15 15:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 15 15:47 |
| MinceR | there's some convergence between tablet computers and laptops | Apr 15 15:47 |
| msb_ | And you know what that makes us... | Apr 15 15:47 |
| msb_ | We don't *have* to eat them, though. Yuck. | Apr 15 15:47 |
| cubezzz | anyone remember these: | Apr 15 15:49 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/wrist-terminal.jpg | Apr 15 15:49 |
| msb_ | It needs a real keyboard, and a good-sized screen. If it has some extras from tablets too, that | Apr 15 15:49 |
| msb_ | 's fine. | Apr 15 15:49 |
| msb_ | I remember the Dick Tracy wrist radio from the funnies. | Apr 15 15:50 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: what did those things actually do? | Apr 15 15:51 |
| cubezzz | msb_, it can interface with serial devices | Apr 15 15:52 |
| cubezzz | e.g. Commodore 64, Apple II, Tandy Color Computer, etc | Apr 15 15:53 |
| msb_ | Did it have a DB-25 to nano-phone-plug adapter? | Apr 15 15:54 |
| msb_ | Do you have one? | Apr 15 15:55 |
| cubezzz | alas, no | Apr 15 15:55 |
| cubezzz | this will explain it a bit more: | Apr 15 15:55 |
| msb_ | Darn, you could port Linux to it. | Apr 15 15:55 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/wrist-terminal-ad.jpg | Apr 15 15:55 |
| cubezzz | pretty neat for 1984 | Apr 15 15:57 |
| cubezzz | I didn't even know about those back then | Apr 15 15:58 |
| msb_ | THat wasn't from Mad Magazine? | Apr 15 15:58 |
| cubezzz | Home Computing Weekly | Apr 15 15:58 |
| msb_ | Maybe our planet was bombarded by a swarm of Strange Particles. But when? | Apr 15 16:00 |
| msb_ | Things have always been pretty strange here. | Apr 15 16:01 |
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| cubezzz | original price: £50 | Apr 15 16:02 |
| cubezzz | msb_, it definitely existed | Apr 15 16:03 |
| msb_ | I want a wrist Turing Machine! | Apr 15 16:04 |
| cubezzz | there's the Pebble... | Apr 15 16:04 |
| cubezzz | lots of smartwatches nowadays | Apr 15 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | So, Amazon is making a phone now? | Apr 15 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | Fire Phone? | Apr 15 16:05 |
| cubezzz | Actually the Pebble was a kickstarter project that did very well | Apr 15 16:06 |
| msb_ | Who here has seen Ghost In The Shell? | Apr 15 16:07 |
| msb_ | Now showing Sunday mornings on the Cartoon Network. | Apr 15 16:08 |
| msb_ | Wow, there's a new series GITS Arise. | Apr 15 16:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines TrueCrypt audit finds “no evidence of | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | backdoors” or malicious code | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gB79W7J4Tj | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36lo | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Starts Talking About Convergence and | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 14.10 Features http://t.co/K52cP4kIci | Apr 15 16:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell unloads slew of datacenter upgrades, teams | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Red Hat on OpenStack | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/uMNmS6HGCl | Apr 15 16:38 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BitTorrent Client FrostWire 5.7.2 Finally | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings uTP Support http://t.co/2SoDfbv7fo | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36lr | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Results Of Optimizing Radeon's VRAM | Apr 15 16:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Behavior http://t.co/q6wlpdDO0r | Apr 15 16:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TrueCrypt audit finds “no evidence of backdoors” or malicious code | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Starts Talking About Convergence and Ubuntu 14.10 Features | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell unloads slew of datacenter upgrades, teams with Red Hat on OpenStack | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BitTorrent Client FrostWire 5.7.2 Finally Brings uTP Support | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Results Of Optimizing Radeon's VRAM Behavior | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samba 4.0.17 Launches with Multiple Fixes | Apr 15 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bNClju912k | Apr 15 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36ml | Apr 15 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samba 4.0.17 Launches with Multiple Fixes | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Efl and Elementary 1.9.3 and Enlightenment | Apr 15 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 0.18.7 release http://t.co/cLfhiESQFh | Apr 15 16:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36mq | Apr 15 16:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Efl and Elementary 1.9.3 and Enlightenment 0.18.7 release | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:43 | |
| gde33 | http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/801568/?autoplay=true | Apr 15 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebaumsworld.com | Idiocracy - Video [ http://ur1.ca/h36s7 ] | Apr 15 17:06 | |
| cubezzz | another choice in FOSS operating systems: | Apr 15 17:55 |
| cubezzz | http://freertos.org | Apr 15 17:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freertos.org | FreeRTOS - Market leading RTOS (Real Time Operating System) for embedded systems with Internet of Things extensions | Apr 15 17:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BitTorrent Client FrostWire 5.7.2 Finally | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Brings uTP Support http://t.co/2SoDfbv7fo | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @_Goblin | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fg | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNU/Linux in India http://t.co/fQ15y51ff6 | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fh | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No, the iPhone 6 is not going to demolish | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/qRqpI2yg7A | Apr 15 18:47 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Live from the Summit: All hands on cloud with | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat CEO http://t.co/gUxHfiiIKd | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fj | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More evidence that the Linux wars have moved to | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStack http://t.co/xoJ5ynD2GF | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fk | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 21 To Evaluate Remote Journal Logging, | Apr 15 18:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 64-bit ARM Emulation http://t.co/9Yey6uTrRb | Apr 15 18:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux in India | Tux Machines | Apr 15 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No, the iPhone 6 is not going to demolish Android | Tux Machines | Apr 15 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Live from the Summit: All hands on cloud with Red Hat CEO | Tux Machines | Apr 15 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More evidence that the Linux wars have moved to OpenStack | Tux Machines | Apr 15 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 21 To Evaluate Remote Journal Logging, 64-bit ARM Emulation | Tux Machines | Apr 15 18:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2014.04 Officially Released, Is Based | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on KDE 4.12.3 and Linux Kernel 3.12.16 | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jGRRZmjKOP | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h383p | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Releases An AutoFDO Converter For Perf | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | In LLVM http://t.co/3K4KKMEb0A | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h383q | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux is about to take over the desktop but not | Apr 15 20:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | like you think it will http://t.co/37aiNlpNDu | Apr 15 20:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS 2014.04 Officially Released, Is Based on KDE 4.12.3 and Linux Kernel 3.12.16 | Tux Machines | Apr 15 20:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Releases An AutoFDO Converter For Perf In LLVM | Tux Machines | Apr 15 20:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux is about to take over the desktop but not like you think it will | Tux Machines | Apr 15 20:45 | |
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| cubezzz | I think some of the chromebooks come with seabios now | Apr 15 21:13 |
| cubezzz | that could mean that the chromebook is pretty close to 100% FOSS | Apr 15 21:15 |
| cubezzz | folks are installing Arch Linux on the Acer C720 | Apr 15 21:15 |
| cubezzz | it has to be enabled but it doesn't look hard to do | Apr 15 21:16 |
| Sosumi | http://techpinions.com/say-goodbye-to-microsoft/29242 | Apr 15 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techpinions.com | Say Goodbye To Microsoft | Tech.pinions - Perspective, Insight, Analysis [ http://ur1.ca/h38b0 ] | Apr 15 21:24 | |
| Sosumi | no, no, no and NO | Apr 15 21:24 |
| Sosumi | the very definition of a M$ product is this | Apr 15 21:24 |
| Sosumi | http://daisydesk.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/100_0751.jpg | Apr 15 21:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Looking for a Windows XP Replacement? PCLinuxOS | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE 2014.04 Might Be the Answer | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cxWWPz4giM | Apr 15 21:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Source: Steam Controller will be available in | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "October or November" http://t.co/gUoAWTf7PP | Apr 15 21:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android (Linux) is creating more jobs than | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | iPhone http://t.co/6DJGlE2oBn | Apr 15 21:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Beautiful Zukitwo Theme for GNOME 3.12 Gets an | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update http://t.co/NRGD6k3GeD | Apr 15 21:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat To Bring Docker Support To Enterprise | Apr 15 21:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux And OpenShift http://t.co/lRmlNphxQQ | Apr 15 21:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Looking for a Windows XP Replacement? PCLinuxOS MATE 2014.04 Might Be the Answer | Tux Machines | Apr 15 21:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Source: Steam Controller will be available in "October or November" | Tux Machines | Apr 15 21:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android (Linux) is creating more jobs than iPhone | Tux Machines | Apr 15 21:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Beautiful Zukitwo Theme for GNOME 3.12 Gets an Update | Tux Machines | Apr 15 21:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu chases enterprise cloud with Server | Apr 15 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 14.04 release http://t.co/DW05D9u1nB | Apr 15 22:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS FullMonty 2014.04 Has Six Separate | Apr 15 22:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktops Filled with Goodies – Gallery | Apr 15 22:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/zfZp315YFt | Apr 15 22:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu chases enterprise cloud with Server 14.04 release | Tux Machines | Apr 15 22:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/FgA8XNEk8Q | Apr 16 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 16 01:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Apr 16 01:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.2.2-37 Distro Features | Apr 16 02:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 release candidate | Apr 16 02:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | arrives http://t.co/fpIBvNyRyi | Apr 16 02:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.2.2-37 Distro Features Updated Packages | Tux Machines | Apr 16 02:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux module controls micro-helicopters | Apr 16 04:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines April 2014 Project of the Month, Free Pascal | Apr 16 04:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux module controls micro-helicopters | Tux Machines | Apr 16 04:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged Android fleet computer offers 3G, GPS, | Apr 16 04:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | CANbus http://t.co/ihOdQCzlSD | Apr 16 04:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | April 2014 Project of the Month, Free Pascal | Tux Machines | Apr 16 04:16 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Apr 16 09:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 14 Features of Xubuntu 14.04 | Apr 16 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 14 Features of Xubuntu 14.04 | Tux Machines | Apr 16 10:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | I got my new cable modem/router. | Apr 16 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | Much nicer than Comcast's. | Apr 16 12:34 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 16 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It included a copy of the GNU General Public License. | Apr 16 12:59 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 16 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | Under system requirements, it says "Linux" is a supported operating system. | Apr 16 12:59 |
| DaemonFC | Well, now I can get rid of another one of life's little ripoffs. | Apr 16 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | Modem rental fee. | Apr 16 13:00 |
| cubezzz | I did that 10 years ago :) | Apr 16 13:00 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I was waiting for a good deal on a combination unit that supported the latest standards. | Apr 16 13:01 |
| cubezzz | how much was the rental fee? | Apr 16 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't feel like getting stuck on something that didn't support ipv6 or DOCSIS 3. | Apr 16 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | $8 a month | Apr 16 13:02 |
| cubezzz | 8 * 12 * 10 = $960 | Apr 16 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | The price for the Netgear N450 cable modem/router on Amazon fell to $99.99. | Apr 16 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | And I got 3% off for using my Amazon Visa. | Apr 16 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but up until 2012, it was only $3 a month. | Apr 16 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | Then in 2013, it was $5, and then in 2014, it is now $8. | Apr 16 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | So, basically, the rental fee is killing you now, compared to owning. | Apr 16 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | It pays for itself in 12 months, and then starts saving you money. | Apr 16 13:03 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Yeah. Over 10 years, you can rent a modem and pay for it 10 times over, or you can own it and spend the remaining $900 any way you choose. :) | Apr 16 13:06 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: You forgot tax, which in Indiana, is 7%. | Apr 16 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | So 56 cents a month in tax makes the real rental cost $8.56 a month. | Apr 16 13:07 |
| DaemonFC | $1,027.20 over 10 years, *if* they don't raise it again. | Apr 16 13:08 |
| cubezzz | $8 is a rip-off | Apr 16 13:08 |
| cubezzz | In Canada they don't even sell DSL modems in stores | Apr 16 13:10 |
| cubezzz | so I bought mind directly from Ovislink Canada | Apr 16 13:11 |
| cubezzz | s/mind/mine/ | Apr 16 13:11 |
| cubezzz | just like they don't sell DVR's that record antenna broadcasts | Apr 16 13:12 |
| cubezzz | they are all tied to Rogers and Bell | Apr 16 13:12 |
| cubezzz | I remember I called one store and they said "No one provides DSL modems except the ISP" | Apr 16 13:13 |
| cubezzz | totally false | Apr 16 13:13 |
| cubezzz | but I deal directly with a freenet so no problem there | Apr 16 13:14 |
| cubezzz | so yeah, a lot of people are getting squeezed by content providers | Apr 16 13:18 |
| msb_ | Another point to note is that even though electronics gets cheaper to produce every year, the fee we're forced to pay to content (or Internet) providers for their *usage* of electronics for our needs keeps increasing. They just gouge us more and more every year because they *can*. There's nothing stopping them. | Apr 16 13:38 |
| msb_ | That's another problem with Capitalism. The only force that pushes prices lower is competition. But in many areas there IS NO COMPETITION. In the San Francisco Bay Area, where I live, Comcast is the ONLY cable company -- mandated by law. The only competition is DSL, which is much lower speed. | Apr 16 13:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat 7 RC, Ubuntu 14.04 Server, and Why | Apr 16 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME http://t.co/ANUwIfmLvj | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Early Linux 3.15 Benchmarks Of Intel Core i7 + | Apr 16 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Radeon http://t.co/Kv6bahxmg9 | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Trying Out Radeon R9 290 Graphics On | Apr 16 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source http://t.co/If3JXwiLf2 | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat 7 RC, Ubuntu 14.04 Server, and Why GNOME | Tux Machines | Apr 16 13:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bigger BeagleBone Blacks and Thoughts on | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qt on Android: The top 5 markets | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MakuluLinux Interview: Lead Developer Jaque | Apr 16 13:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raymer Talks About Makulu | Apr 16 13:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Early Linux 3.15 Benchmarks Of Intel Core i7 + Radeon | Tux Machines | Apr 16 13:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trying Out Radeon R9 290 Graphics On Open-Source | Tux Machines | Apr 16 13:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bigger BeagleBone Blacks and Thoughts on Raspberry Pi’s Modulea | Tux Machines | Apr 16 13:43 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MakuluLinux Interview: Lead Developer Jaque Raymer Talks About Makulu | Tux Machines | Apr 16 13:43 | |
| cubezzz | I don't worry too much about the speed being lower | Apr 16 13:58 |
| cubezzz | as long as I have control over input/output, e.g. one can run services | Apr 16 13:58 |
| cubezzz | in the United States it seems like it's different | Apr 16 13:59 |
| cubezzz | the Free-nets have eroded and the cable companies have taken over | Apr 16 13:59 |
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| MinceR | http://leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-bill/ | Apr 16 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-leapsecond.com | First Atomic Clock Wristwatch | Apr 16 14:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why I Switched to GNOME http://t.co/F75qbHeaUD | Apr 16 14:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google’s Project ARA Modular Phone Looks Really | Apr 16 14:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Amazing http://t.co/weoXcwAmR0 | Apr 16 14:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why I Switched to GNOME | Tux Machines | Apr 16 14:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google’s Project ARA Modular Phone Looks Really Amazing | Tux Machines | Apr 16 14:52 | |
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| Sosumi | google glass in one picture | Apr 16 15:20 |
| Sosumi | http://pandodaily.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/google-glasssss.jpg?w=900&h=675 | Apr 16 15:20 |
| cubezzz | I have to say kdevelop is rather voluminous, even the 3.5.10 version | Apr 16 15:27 |
| cubezzz | the executables use a lot of shared libs | Apr 16 15:30 |
| cubezzz | libkdeprint.so and libXinerama is linked | Apr 16 15:31 |
| cubezzz | kids and their new ideas | Apr 16 15:32 |
| MinceR | vim > * | Apr 16 15:35 |
| cubezzz | that's why unix v7 is so interesting | Apr 16 15:39 |
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| cubezzz | unirubik was 15436 bytes | Apr 16 15:42 |
| cubezzz | if you strip the symbols it's down to 10384 | Apr 16 15:43 |
| cubezzz | that is pretty lean | Apr 16 15:43 |
| cubezzz | ah I see now, it's for multi-headed displays | Apr 16 15:47 |
| cubezzz | Xinerama that is | Apr 16 15:48 |
| cubezzz | and it's a DEC project too | Apr 16 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google’s Project ARA Modular Phone Looks Really | Apr 16 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Amazing http://t.co/weoXcwAmR0 | Apr 16 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @_Goblin | Apr 16 15:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE 4.13 Is Being Released Today With New | Apr 16 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features http://t.co/gqiR3WHisR | Apr 16 15:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Deepin 2014 Alpha Linux Distro Will Blow You | Apr 16 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Away – Gallery http://t.co/ZQZT8lLWwO | Apr 16 15:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE 4.13 Is Being Released Today With New Features | Tux Machines | Apr 16 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin 2014 Alpha Linux Distro Will Blow You Away – Gallery | Tux Machines | Apr 16 15:49 | |
| cubezzz | check out the keyboard on this setup: | Apr 16 15:52 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/xmonad-tripleheader.jpg | Apr 16 15:52 |
| cubezzz | it looks like they have two touchpads on there | Apr 16 15:53 |
| MinceR | the wrist pads on the keyboard are not touchpads, if that's what you mean :> | Apr 16 16:00 |
| MinceR | kinesis something | Apr 16 16:00 |
| cubezzz | oh I see | Apr 16 16:00 |
| cubezzz | the keys look strange too | Apr 16 16:01 |
| MinceR | kinesis advantage [pro?] | Apr 16 16:01 |
| MinceR | looks a lot like the maltron keyboards | Apr 16 16:01 |
| cubezzz | whoa, expensive | Apr 16 16:02 |
| cubezzz | I guess they just added those wrist pads to the keyboard | Apr 16 16:05 |
| MinceR | it seems so to me | Apr 16 16:05 |
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| msb_ | It looks like the central display has leaves folded behind it. | Apr 16 16:36 |
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| msb | US pays half of now-Nazi Ukraine's Russian gas bill http://www.collapsenet.com/free-resources/collapsenet-public-access/news-alerts/item/12452-us-pays-half-of-gazproms-overdue-invoice-with-$1-billion-ukraine-loan-guarantee | Apr 16 18:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Maynard: A Lightweight Wayland Desktop | Apr 16 19:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source Code Has Fewer Defects Than | Apr 16 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proprietary Software http://t.co/tJMfOW07V7 | Apr 16 19:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First-Person Programming Game Glitchspace | Apr 16 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arrives on Steam for Linux | Apr 16 19:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EU countries 'prefer open specifications' | Apr 16 19:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Maynard: A Lightweight Wayland Desktop | Tux Machines | Apr 16 19:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Can Run Apps Designed for Firefox OS | Apr 16 19:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | from Firefox Marketplace http://t.co/Kw72d4g4PU | Apr 16 19:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Code Has Fewer Defects Than Proprietary Software | Tux Machines | Apr 16 19:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First-Person Programming Game Glitchspace Arrives on Steam for Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 16 19:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EU countries 'prefer open specifications' | Tux Machines | Apr 16 19:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Can Run Apps Designed for Firefox OS from Firefox Marketplace | Tux Machines | Apr 16 19:06 | |
| cubezzz | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/14/04/16/1654207/intel-pushes-into-tablet-market-pushes-away-from-microsoft | Apr 16 19:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.slashdot.org | Intel Pushes Into Tablet Market, Pushes Away From Microsoft - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/h3k6p ] | Apr 16 19:32 | |
| cubezzz | seems like the chromebooks are still all intel? | Apr 16 19:37 |
| MinceR | nope | Apr 16 19:37 |
| MinceR | there is at least one that's samsung exynos | Apr 16 19:37 |
| MinceR | and via probably uses their own cpu | Apr 16 19:37 |
| cubezzz | you're right, looks like HP has one too | Apr 16 19:45 |
| cubezzz | Exynos 5250 | Apr 16 19:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 10 Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 14.04 | Apr 16 20:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trusty Tahr To Get A Near Perfect Desktop | Apr 16 20:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Will Android TV kill Google’s Chromecast? | Apr 16 20:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Edward Snowden Used the Tails Linux Distro to | Apr 16 20:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Edward Snowden Used the Tails Linux Distro to Stay Hidden | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:05 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:25 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:25 | |
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| Sosumi | reading "morals and dogma" atm | Apr 16 21:16 |
| Sosumi | and I've found on passage in the book that says what I've been saying all along | Apr 16 21:16 |
| Sosumi | about religion and cult being nothing more than an "ignorant" interpretation of the celestial plane | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | aka planets and orbits | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | We know, through a precise testimony in the ancient annals of Tsur, that the principal | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | festivity of Mal-karth, the incarnation of the Sun at the Winter Solstice, held at Tsur, was | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | called his rebirth or his awakening, and that it was celebrated by means of a pyre, on | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | which the god was supposed to regain, through the aid of fire, a new life. This festival | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | was celebrated in the month Peritius (Barith), the second day of which corresponded to | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | the 25th of December. KHUR-UM, King of Tyre, Movers says, first performed this | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | ceremony. These facts we learn from Josephus, Servius on the AEneid, and the | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | Dionysiacs of Nonnus; and through a coincidence that cannot be fortuitous, the same | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | day was at Rome the Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, the festal day of the invincible Sun. Under | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | this title, HERCULES, HAR-acles, was worshipped at Tsur. Thus, while the temple was | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | being erected, the death and resurrection of a Sun-God was annually represented at | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | Tsur, by Solomon's ally, at the winter solstice, by the pyre of MAL-KARIH, the Tsurian | Apr 16 21:17 |
| Sosumi | Haracles. | Apr 16 21:17 |
| cubezzz | can you explain chocolate easter bunnies? :) | Apr 16 21:18 |
| Sosumi | well, it is a fertility cult in the honor of ishtar | Apr 16 21:19 |
| Sosumi | in which everyone engaged in massive orgies | Apr 16 21:19 |
| Sosumi | since bunnies reproduce fast | Apr 16 21:19 |
| Sosumi | you get the chocolate bunny as memento from times long gone | Apr 16 21:19 |
| cubezzz | ok, but some guy must have come up with the idea of making them chocolate | Apr 16 21:20 |
| cubezzz | I mean, it's a great way to sell chocolate and all | Apr 16 21:20 |
| *Sosumi puts on his russian accent | Apr 16 21:21 | |
| Sosumi | some capitalist pig! | Apr 16 21:21 |
| Sosumi | I wouldn't mind a chocolate egg for easter | Apr 16 21:22 |
| Sosumi | but I'm allergic to chocolate | Apr 16 21:22 |
| Sosumi | :( | Apr 16 21:22 |
| cubezzz | that's some bad luck there | Apr 16 21:23 |
| Sosumi | I haven't any references in the book yet | Apr 16 21:33 |
| Sosumi | to the name of Solomon | Apr 16 21:33 |
| Sosumi | but I can say according to a theologian friend of mine | Apr 16 21:33 |
| Sosumi | that it is just the name of the sun in three difference languages | Apr 16 21:34 |
| Sosumi | sol-om-on | Apr 16 21:34 |
| schestowitz__ | Black Duck http://realbusiness.co.uk/article/26362-open-source-from-great-technology-to-greater-intelligence | Apr 16 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-realbusiness.co.uk | Real Business - Open Source: From great technology to greater intelligence [ http://ur1.ca/h3kyo ] | Apr 16 21:35 | |
| Sosumi | ever wandered why the monk chants "om" continuously? | Apr 16 21:35 |
| cubezzz | not really :) | Apr 16 21:35 |
| cubezzz | but thanks for the info | Apr 16 21:35 |
| Sosumi | it is a sun cult | Apr 16 21:35 |
| Sosumi | which at first, according from what I read in Theodicy, was an evolution of the early fire worship cults | Apr 16 21:36 |
| Sosumi | fire, sun, lighting and lightning striking a tree | Apr 16 21:37 |
| schestowitz__ | more of it http://memeburn.com/2014/04/3-top-tips-for-translating-open-source-projects/ | Apr 16 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-memeburn.com | 3 top tips for translating open source projects | memeburn [ http://ur1.ca/h3kz8 ] | Apr 16 21:37 | |
| Sosumi | and we immediately reach the whole mythology of prometeus and lucifer | Apr 16 21:37 |
| Sosumi | for some reason matches | Apr 16 21:38 |
| Sosumi | are also called luciferas | Apr 16 21:38 |
| Sosumi | interesting | Apr 16 21:41 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.sequimgazette.com/news/255514101.html | Apr 16 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sequimgazette.com | Mervin Manufacturing cuts 20 percent of staff - Sequim Gazette [ http://ur1.ca/h3l0c ] | Apr 16 21:41 | |
| Sosumi | so when I turn something "ON" that also means that I'm letting the "light" come in | Apr 16 21:41 |
| Sosumi | light as in life or as it is in the most usual cases, giving an usability to an object | Apr 16 21:43 |
| Sosumi | http://www.macrumors.com/2014/04/16/project-tango-primesense/ | Apr 16 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Google's 'Project Tango' Smartphone Uses Apple's PrimeSense Technology - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/h3l2p ] | Apr 16 21:52 | |
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| Sosumi | it isn't the headlines that matter | Apr 16 21:52 |
| Sosumi | but it appears that google also wants to map your house | Apr 16 21:53 |
| Sosumi | so that when you're a hurry, | Apr 16 21:53 |
| Sosumi | just yap "hi glass, bathroom ASAP!" | Apr 16 21:54 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 16 21:54 |
| Sosumi | switch down brain and off you go | Apr 16 21:55 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Apr 16 21:55 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: how did you get into open source? | Apr 16 21:55 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of people with their brain permanently off | Apr 16 21:55 |
| MinceR | just observe the latest hungarian election results | Apr 16 21:55 |
| Sosumi | I knew I should have gone into med school | Apr 16 21:55 |
| Sosumi | so I know put the defibrillator against the zombies heads | Apr 16 21:57 |
| Sosumi | sebsebseb, I'm not into opensource sorry | Apr 16 21:57 |
| Sosumi | opensource is bad | Apr 16 21:57 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: free software then | Apr 16 21:57 |
| Sosumi | it is like being a gynecologist without being able to have a taste | Apr 16 21:58 |
| Sosumi | I did dual boot between osx and yellow dog linux | Apr 16 21:58 |
| Sosumi | in order to test the waters | Apr 16 21:59 |
| Sosumi | and that was back in 2005 | Apr 16 21:59 |
| cubezzz | it's funny actually... I tried Linux 0.99 something | Apr 16 21:59 |
| Sosumi | I was 15 at the time and I felt like my quad powermac G5 was kind being wasted in just running osx | Apr 16 22:00 |
| Sosumi | since there was no virtualization possible, dual boot had to be the way | Apr 16 22:01 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/darkstar-0.99-x11.png | Apr 16 22:01 |
| Sosumi | xeyes! | Apr 16 22:02 |
| cubezzz | didn't stick with it | Apr 16 22:02 |
| cubezzz | but by 1995 or so you could get CDs of Linux and FreeBSD | Apr 16 22:03 |
| Sosumi | lol 1995 | Apr 16 22:04 |
| Sosumi | how old were you back then, cubezzz | Apr 16 22:08 |
| abeNd-org | oh the days of installing slackware via a customer floppy & parallel zip100 | Apr 16 22:22 |
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| MinceR | gn | Apr 16 22:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Councils stage open source revival | Apr 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ieG77qMZQM | Apr 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ljl | Apr 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support | Apr 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wGXbXW1TrK | Apr 16 23:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ljm | Apr 16 23:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Councils stage open source revival | Tux Machines | Apr 16 23:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support | Tux Machines | Apr 16 23:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source enables government business | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | continuity http://t.co/06bXSWDzjO | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3m4i | Apr 17 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source enables government business continuity | Tux Machines | Apr 17 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Mounts $100K Project Ara Dev Challenge | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wNwZExpQsP | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3m4j | Apr 17 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Mounts $100K Project Ara Dev Challenge | Tux Machines | Apr 17 01:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SystemRescueCd 4.2.0 Recovery Distro Now | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download http://t.co/Mj98MJo23q | Apr 17 01:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3m4k | Apr 17 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SystemRescueCd 4.2.0 Recovery Distro Now Available for Download | Tux Machines | Apr 17 01:11 | |
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| amarsh04 | http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2014/s3987161.htm | Apr 17 04:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | PM - Linc Energy facing criminal charges over alleged environmental harm 16/04/2014 [ http://ur1.ca/h3n9p ] | Apr 17 04:26 | |
| amarsh04 | ^ fracking | Apr 17 04:26 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3938947 | Apr 17 07:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support http://www.muktware.com/2014/04/nvidia-might-working-g-sync-linux-support/25698 | Apr 17 07:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/h3o4l ] | Apr 17 07:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Screw NV. They gave us more problems than benefits." | Apr 17 07:02 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @TheBCEye favourited 'Open Source enables government business continuity http://t.co/06bXSWDzjO' | Apr 17 09:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux-Based Autonomous Sub Leads Malaysia | Apr 17 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Airlines Flight Search http://t.co/How3AWDBEW | Apr 17 09:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3p24 | Apr 17 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-Based Autonomous Sub Leads Malaysia Airlines Flight Search | Tux Machines | Apr 17 09:14 | |
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| msb | NVidia been bery bery good to me. | Apr 17 10:28 |
| Sosumi | in soviet russia, you're bery, bery good to nvidia | Apr 17 10:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Tizen smartphones now slated for 2Q | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | release http://t.co/8dcMnyOKlv | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3pqh | Apr 17 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung Tizen smartphones now slated for 2Q release | Tux Machines | Apr 17 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This is Amazon’s smartphone | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/k8iPPrCPzn | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3pqi | Apr 17 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This is Amazon’s smartphone | Tux Machines | Apr 17 11:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Use Tails to Avoid Prying Eyes | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/dz2X4TKhAu | Apr 17 11:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3pqj | Apr 17 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Use Tails to Avoid Prying Eyes | Tux Machines | Apr 17 11:27 | |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/still-going-strong-sony-sells-more-than-7-million-playstation-4s/ | Apr 17 11:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Still going strong: Sony sells more than 7 million PlayStation 4s | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h3pu9 ] | Apr 17 11:47 | |
| Sosumi | xbone 4.2 million | Apr 17 11:47 |
| Sosumi | still not on sale in portugal | Apr 17 11:47 |
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| Sosumi | I actually think m$ is going to fail hardly | Apr 17 13:41 |
| Sosumi | with the xbone | Apr 17 13:41 |
| Sosumi | no only the console is weaker but has no games | Apr 17 13:41 |
| Sosumi | and the major iterations of the original xbox and xbox 360 have already kind of ended | Apr 17 13:42 |
| Sosumi | aka gears of war and halo | Apr 17 13:42 |
| Sosumi | with the non bungie made halo being meh as well as with halo reach | Apr 17 13:42 |
| Sosumi | I don't even think halo reach's multiplayer even made it to mlg | Apr 17 13:43 |
| Sosumi | with ppl sticking just to halo 3 | Apr 17 13:43 |
| Sosumi | and at the end of the gen after m$ had blown all the steam on the xbox 360 | Apr 17 13:46 |
| Sosumi | the ps3 actually surpassed it | Apr 17 13:47 |
| Sosumi | while the xbox had no good exclusives at all | Apr 17 13:47 |
| Sosumi | so the ps4 doing so well is a continue of the ps3 momentum | Apr 17 13:47 |
| Sosumi | and being the superior platform | Apr 17 13:48 |
| Sosumi | games life bf4 and so on have already proved that | Apr 17 13:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.c-span.org/video/?318889-1/nsa-surveillance-personal-privacy | Apr 17 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.c-span.org | NSA Surveillance Personal Privacy | Video | C-SPAN.org [ http://ur1.ca/h3qk7 ] | Apr 17 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | UK GOP :-) | Apr 17 13:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/eee_eff/status/456776229140439040 | Apr 17 13:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@eee_eff: .@schestowitz I increasingly doubt that people feel the two are mutually exclusive... | Apr 17 13:53 | |
| msb | Wiki says the PS4 runs a fork of FreeBSD, but I think that since BSD is not under GPL, the PS4 does not have to be programmable by the user and can be an "appliance" rather than a general purpose computer. Is this correct? | Apr 17 13:55 |
| Sosumi | correct | Apr 17 13:56 |
| msb | That sucks! | Apr 17 13:56 |
| Sosumi | well ofc it does | Apr 17 13:56 |
| Sosumi | just ask the game developers having to fork for a ps4 dev kit when they could instead just grab a ps4 off the shelf and start "deving" | Apr 17 13:57 |
| msb | This is why the GPL is so important, so corporate pigs can't profit off the work of the free World Community without giving back to it. | Apr 17 13:57 |
| msb | All praise to RMS! | Apr 17 13:57 |
| Sosumi | the only way that'd change would be if suddenly M$ let ppl use the xbone as a general purpose computer | Apr 17 13:58 |
| Sosumi | even if limited but as long as it could a regular desktop for home use | Apr 17 13:58 |
| msb | I'd rather use a PS4 than anything from Microshit. | Apr 17 13:59 |
| Sosumi | then sony would probably bring back the gnu/linux support | Apr 17 13:59 |
| Sosumi | that they took away when they launched the ps3 slim | Apr 17 13:59 |
| Sosumi | back in 2009 | Apr 17 13:59 |
| msb | Yeah, that was a bummer. | Apr 17 13:59 |
| Sosumi | well, you know that you still need m$ to develop for the ps3 | Apr 17 14:00 |
| msb | You'd think they would sell more of them if people could use them freely. | Apr 17 14:00 |
| Sosumi | I think it works through a visual studio plugin | Apr 17 14:00 |
| msb | Feh. If it was open and the details were known, somebody would make a module for it for Eclipse. | Apr 17 14:02 |
| msb | Last time I used an MS compiler (many years ago) you had to turn off all the optimizations or it would write severely erroneous code. | Apr 17 14:04 |
| msb | The Prime Directive is: Never use anything from Microsoft! | Apr 17 14:05 |
| msb | If you do, your soul will turn black and fall off. | Apr 17 14:06 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Apr 17 14:09 |
| Sosumi | I'm yet to try VS | Apr 17 14:09 |
| msb | Yes! This is a matter of Good vs Evil. Seriously. | Apr 17 14:09 |
| Sosumi | but from what read, ppl use intel compilers with vs | Apr 17 14:09 |
| msb | I imagine the ms compilers work now. But the company is so viciously evil that it should be completely shunned. | Apr 17 14:10 |
| msb | I haven't even updated this to include UEFI: http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html | Apr 17 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | MICROSOFT'S WAR AGAINST LINUX | Apr 17 14:11 | |
| msb | Companies like Microsoft make money by harming people. That is psychopath behavior! | Apr 17 14:12 |
| msb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqs7GJ0jdY | Apr 17 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Psychopathy in Politics and Finance - Stefan Verstappen on GRTV - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/g22oj ] | Apr 17 14:13 | |
| msb | Of course Microsoft has done a lot more harm than just attacking GNU/Linux. Selling bad software and hardware, keeping people ignorant, lying about all sorts of things, allowing virus propagation, etc. | Apr 17 14:15 |
| cubezzz | I think it's important to remember FOSS is more that just linux | Apr 17 14:23 |
| cubezzz | technically if you have the source code, the compilers/assemblers, and a working computer you have software freedom | Apr 17 14:24 |
| cubezzz | the new chromebooks even have SeaBIOS built-in, so the 16-bit BIOS itself is FOSS | Apr 17 14:24 |
| cubezzz | that's a huge improvement over what we had before | Apr 17 14:25 |
| Sosumi | what about free firmware? | Apr 17 14:25 |
| Sosumi | do you have the source code of your computer's bios? | Apr 17 14:25 |
| cubezzz | yes I do | Apr 17 14:25 |
| cubezzz | I run coreboot with seabios on two machines | Apr 17 14:25 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/coreboot-serial-output.txt | Apr 17 14:26 |
| msb | cubezzz: Wow, that is a wonderful system! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coreboot | Apr 17 14:33 |
| cubezzz | Gigabyte seems to be more FOSS friendly that most motherboard manufacturers | Apr 17 14:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | coreboot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Apr 17 14:33 | |
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| cubezzz | there's the vgabios as well | Apr 17 14:39 |
| cubezzz | video bios appeared in the EGA era | Apr 17 14:41 |
| cubezzz | i.e. the old PC bios didn't know about EGA | Apr 17 14:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/456789503252770817 | Apr 17 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz I don't think @KimDotcom needs them to have more ideas for illegal abuse ;)... | Apr 17 14:43 | |
| schestowitz | He's safe. He's white. | Apr 17 14:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/456789807734075392 | Apr 17 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz but I did not hear about @KimDotcom mom's house before...and I thought Germany had higher standards for due process... | Apr 17 14:43 | |
| schestowitz | I thought so too | Apr 17 14:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ralpost/status/456790616882823168 | Apr 17 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ralpost: @gnutelephony @schestowitz @KimDotcom DMCA-takedown inspired droning, where you execute your target first and investigate the facts later. | Apr 17 14:49 | |
| schestowitz | @ralpost @gnutelephony @KimDotcom with bogus DMCA request the defendant can fight back; with drones you get thoroughly demonised while dead | Apr 17 14:50 |
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| cubezzz | Microsoft tried to infiltrate the watch industry: | Apr 17 15:53 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/timex-microsoft-watch.jpg | Apr 17 15:54 |
| cubezzz | CRT sync was also possible on win95 and win98 | Apr 17 15:55 |
| cubezzz | or rather ONLY possible on win95 and win98 | Apr 17 15:55 |
| MinceR | it's like they haven't heard of serial cables | Apr 17 16:02 |
| Jibbler | http://samsungdesign.tumblr.com/ | Apr 17 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-samsungdesign.tumblr.com | Original Designs by Samsung | Apr 17 16:03 | |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/microsoft-watch-version-2.jpg | Apr 17 16:04 |
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| cubezzz | Microsoft SPOT bombed out around 2008 | Apr 17 16:07 |
| cubezzz | I never even heard about it before now | Apr 17 16:07 |
| gde33 | doesn't Net neutrality mean the internet is dominated by imbiciles? | Apr 17 16:12 |
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| Sosumi | http://recode.net/2014/04/16/marissa-mayers-secret-plan-to-get-apple-to-dump-google-and-default-to-yahoo-mobile-search/ | Apr 17 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-recode.net | Marissa Mayer’s Secret Plan to Get Apple to Dump Google and Default to Yahoo Mobile Search | Re/code [ http://ur1.ca/h3rln ] | Apr 17 16:20 | |
| Sosumi | yahoo is currently engaged with m$ | Apr 17 16:20 |
| Sosumi | and something I didn't know | Apr 17 16:20 |
| Sosumi | Siri uses bing | Apr 17 16:21 |
| Sosumi | since crapple doesn't have their own search engine | Apr 17 16:21 |
| cubezzz | ya, microsoft is always trying to take over everything | Apr 17 16:21 |
| cubezzz | there's always late to the party though | Apr 17 16:22 |
| Sosumi | and their advertisement platform isn't that great (iAd) | Apr 17 16:22 |
| cubezzz | they're | Apr 17 16:22 |
| Sosumi | I see this really happening | Apr 17 16:22 |
| Sosumi | no | Apr 17 16:22 |
| Sosumi | late to the party is always apple | Apr 17 16:23 |
| Sosumi | not m$ | Apr 17 16:23 |
| Sosumi | m$ just trails behind gnu/linux | Apr 17 16:23 |
| Sosumi | and if you want stuff not working, crappy drivers and missing features | Apr 17 16:24 |
| Sosumi | hey just get mac | Apr 17 16:24 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 17 16:24 |
| Sosumi | siemens just released their new version of NX | Apr 17 16:25 |
| Sosumi | unfortunately it is now ribbon themed | Apr 17 16:25 |
| Sosumi | but it works flawlessly on both windows and gnu/linux | Apr 17 16:26 |
| cubezzz | well I suppose there's DuckDuckGo and what was that other one | Apr 17 16:26 |
| Sosumi | but on osx it has missing features | Apr 17 16:26 |
| cubezzz | Ixquick I think | Apr 17 16:27 |
| Sosumi | I just use google, no point in bothering much | Apr 17 16:28 |
| Sosumi | since I've never had any expectation of privacy on the internet | Apr 17 16:28 |
| Sosumi | so I also don't trow it out there sensitive information nor post selfies of myself | Apr 17 16:29 |
| Sosumi | but I do expect that the information inside my HDD to remain private | Apr 17 16:29 |
| cubezzz | actually I don't mind some ads | Apr 17 16:29 |
| Sosumi | I just addblock everything | Apr 17 16:30 |
| cubezzz | if it's stuff I'm interested in | Apr 17 16:30 |
| Sosumi | not even the google ads escape | Apr 17 16:30 |
| cubezzz | it's funny, originally /usr/local/sbin or at least /sbin were supposed to be statically linked | Apr 17 18:08 |
| cubezzz | instead we have bloated dynamically linked executables | Apr 17 18:08 |
| cubezzz | openbsd doesn't do that | Apr 17 18:09 |
| cubezzz | they did do a pretty good job of reining in the bloat | Apr 17 18:09 |
| cubezzz | but nothing compares to the efficency of Unix v7 on PDP | Apr 17 18:10 |
| cubezzz | actually fc1 was kind of bloated too | Apr 17 18:15 |
| cubezzz | and to be fair the dynamically linked stuff is smaller | Apr 17 18:17 |
| cubezzz | it's just if there's stuff on another partition that gets borked you're /sbin stuff could be unuseable | Apr 17 18:18 |
| cubezzz | really none of the modern linux's are truly lightweight | Apr 17 18:21 |
| cubezzz | the only one I can think of is BL3, but it's very old | Apr 17 18:21 |
| cubezzz | even tiny core recommends 128 megs of ram | Apr 17 18:21 |
| cubezzz | folks, you deserve to see the leanest and meanest linux | Apr 17 18:42 |
| cubezzz | remember, it runs Linux with X in 16 megs of ram | Apr 17 18:42 |
| cubezzz | I spent a lot of time researching this :) | Apr 17 18:43 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/basic-linux-3-is-lean-and-mean.png | Apr 17 18:43 |
| cubezzz | ok, icewm was also possible, on a 486: | Apr 17 18:45 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-486.jpg | Apr 17 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3942483 | Apr 17 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #CIA director in #Kiev searching for missing mercenaries http://www.voltairenet.org/article183269.html #ukraine #libya #syria | Apr 17 18:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Think of the mercenaries." | Apr 17 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.voltairenet.org | CIA director in Kiev searching for missing mercenaries [ http://ur1.ca/h3sio ] | Apr 17 18:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3942557 | Apr 17 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "CIA...monitored the prisoners’ body temperatures for hypothermia as they were continuously covered with ice water" http://www.uscatholic.org/news/201404/commentary-cia-torture-report-ought-disturb-all-our-consciences-28778 | Apr 17 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.uscatholic.org | COMMENTARY: CIA torture report ought to disturb all our consciences | USCatholic.org [ http://ur1.ca/h3sir ] | Apr 17 18:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I've reposted this on other social media. Appalling report." | Apr 17 18:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3941990 | Apr 17 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember reports about #assange (AU) as #drone target? http://www.3news.co.nz/Drone-strike-that-killed-Kiwi-justified---expert/tabid/423/articleID/340460/Default.aspx http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/4/16/new-zealand-australianmenkilledinyemenstrike.html | Apr 17 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.3news.co.nz | Drone strike that killed Kiwi justified - expert - Story - NZ News - 3 News [ http://ur1.ca/h3siy ] | Apr 17 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> america.aljazeera.com | U.S. drone strike kills New Zealander, Australian in Yemen | Al Jazeera America [ http://ur1.ca/h3siz ] | Apr 17 18:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | "There's a disturbing definition of the right to kill, "They have said that they will kill Americans and harm American interests and those of their allies – of which we are one – at any opportunity." Not justiied as an imminent threat of bodily harm to a citizen, justified as any threat to American interests. If you tell people not to eat at McDonalds, are you a terrorist that deserves death regardless of the danger to innocent | Apr 17 18:48 |
| schestowitz__ | people around you?" | Apr 17 18:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3941978 | Apr 17 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "NSA’s egregious conduct has currently reached Orwellian proportions and is a serious threat to “Freedom of Thought”" http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/nsa-control/2014/04/16 | Apr 17 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> baltimorepostexaminer.com | Is the NSA out of control? - Baltimore Post-Examiner [ http://ur1.ca/h3sj4 ] | Apr 17 18:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | "The truth has hit Baltimore?!" | Apr 17 18:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3899097 | Apr 17 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Exposing the U.S. Corporate Interests Behind #Ukraine Coup http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/exposing-us-corporate-interests-behind-ukraine-putsch "economic interests of giant corporations" | Apr 17 18:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.alternet.org | Exposing the U.S. Corporate Interests Behind Ukraine Coup | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/h1qzm ] | Apr 17 18:49 | |
| schestowitz__ | "well, for you it is coup, for me it was "human right for rebellion against crminal dictator"." | Apr 17 18:49 |
| schestowitz__ | Look at the outcome of this botched coup | Apr 17 18:49 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3941108 | Apr 17 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marekjm@iliketoast.net: *In response to: [Preparing the ground for the Fedora Workstation](/posts/2c925309c2ebe661) post* The idea of adding polish and removing the sharp-and-ugly edges from the Linux ecosystem is a very noble one. However, I wouldn't say that I can agree with all things that were said in the article. However, it's hard to tell what exactly is bad with some statements being made -- for me it was more like *It's a good id | Apr 17 19:01 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | In response to: Preparing the ground for the Fedora Workstation post | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | The idea of adding polish and removing the sharp-and-ugly edges from the Linux ecosystem is a very noble one. However, I wouldn't say that I can agree with all things that were said in the article. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | However, it's hard to tell what exactly is bad with some statements being made -- for me it was more like It's a good idea, this one, but I think it lacks X/forgets about Y... | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I agree with the cherrypicking attitude when building a stable system - but the cherries should be picked by the users, shouldn't they? Why limit the choice this way when the rest of the article praises the availability of choice on the GUI-toolkit side? | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Wouldn't it be better to turn Fedora into Fedora Workstation (with more polish and optimised, presets) and make Fedora Workstation really workstation-ready? I mean, it's we developers who know what we need best - e.g. I mostly do Python and C++ library development and I need tools and environment which are radically different than, for example, those needed by a programmer who develops webapps. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I see no way for a pre-set desktop that would be good for both of us. But - I see a way for a desktop which comes bare-bones but offers advanced tools to install required programs, toolkits, GUI-environments etc. That makes a good job at helping the user manage itself and does not get in the way by saying *Hey, I'd like you do this MY WAY, otherwise it will be oh-so-hard". | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Such system is truly workstation-ready in my opinion. Let us not forget that there is there is the work part in the workstation word. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | And, last but - for me - not least, my usual rant about the focus on web applications. I have been, am and will be opposing the move to web-interface-only programs, and those who will not work without seamless access to net. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | This point of view was shaped by my personal experiences, so take not that it is a biased opinion - I have always, and in fact I still do, had bad network access. If a program requires a constant access to the Network it's a no-go for me. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I praise git (and I really mean it!) for being local-goes-global and not the other way round. It's a real blessing and an engineering excellence that despite being a tool to work over the network it needs reliable net access only for some 15 minutes to actually push local changes and pull upstream. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | And this is how people should be able to work - not worrying that they need something that is not immediately available on their local workstation. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe I am wrong, I am definitely no authority, but I think that when the real work is done webapps should take the back sits and let real desktop programs take the first spot. I do not deny their usefulness - but I consider them more as interfaces to inspect the results of work (e.g. GitHub) or as a tools for discussion (e.g. Loomio). | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Well, that were my two (actually more like twelve) cents. | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 17 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/456850377909239808 | Apr 17 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz and unlike telepathy it supports otr and zrtp... | Apr 17 19:05 | |
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| Sosumi | want another example of osx being the one always behind | Apr 17 19:55 |
| Sosumi | nvidia released yesterday the production version of cuda6 | Apr 17 19:55 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile people who updated to it are seeing a major decrease in performance | Apr 17 19:56 |
| MinceR | The Trailing Edge of Technology™ | Apr 17 19:56 |
| Sosumi | while the same hardware running windows is showing the performance | Apr 17 19:57 |
| Sosumi | not mentioned that the exact same hardware benches higher on windows than it does on osx | Apr 17 19:58 |
| Sosumi | <Sosumi> while the same hardware running windows is showing the SAME performance | Apr 17 19:59 |
| Sosumi | sorry ate that word out | Apr 17 19:59 |
| MinceR | i guess they needed something to make winblows look good | Apr 17 20:00 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Apr 17 20:00 |
| Sosumi | but linux and windows are on par | Apr 17 20:00 |
| Sosumi | osx, no | Apr 17 20:00 |
| Sosumi | even open cl is up to 20% slow on osx | Apr 17 20:01 |
| Sosumi | compared to windows and linux | Apr 17 20:01 |
| Sosumi | and now you even pay through your nose for underclocked gpus | Apr 17 20:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/rIS6Y1SLJs | Apr 17 20:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Haswell Graphics Benchmarks From Linux | Apr 17 20:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3.15 http://t.co/44oOWRdJBC | Apr 17 20:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Officially | Apr 17 20:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released http://t.co/DWGj9R8BV5 | Apr 17 20:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 17 20:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Haswell Graphics Benchmarks From Linux 3.15 | Tux Machines | Apr 17 20:19 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NinaByzantina: Brainwashing starts early: schoolchildren from #Canada on #Ukraine. What's missing is telling https://t.co/3VV2yL7epc http://t.co/H7rm4xBwDL | Apr 17 20:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.facebook.com | Sherwood Park Ukrainian Bilingual Program | Facebook | Apr 17 20:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NinaByzantina: Brainwashing starts early: schoolchildren from #Canada on #Ukraine. What's missing is telling https://t.co/3VV2yL7epc http://t.co/H7rm4xBwDL | Apr 17 20:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Released, See What`s New | Apr 17 21:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines QEMU 2.0 Released With ARM, x86 Enhancements | Apr 17 21:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3: It’s time to let go of the past | Apr 17 21:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04.4 vs. 13.10 vs. 14.04 LTS Desktop | Apr 17 21:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 6 “Squeeze” LTS Period Extended Until | Apr 17 21:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve's OpenGL Debugger Now Supports Unreal 4 | Apr 17 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Engine with Linux Support | Apr 17 21:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Released, See What`s New [Video, Screenshots] | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | QEMU 2.0 Released With ARM, x86 Enhancements | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3: It’s time to let go of the past | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.04.4 vs. 13.10 vs. 14.04 LTS Desktop Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 6 “Squeeze” LTS Period Extended Until February 2016 | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Valve's OpenGL Debugger Now Supports Unreal 4 Engine with Linux Support | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Choosing a license http://t.co/ekyRjBqY5n | Apr 17 21:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines WordPress 3.9 arrives with stunning editor and | Apr 17 21:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | more features http://t.co/B186TyWEJA | Apr 17 21:57 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @_Goblin retweeted @tuxmachines: 'WordPress 3.9 arrives with stunning editor and more...' | Apr 17 21:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Choosing a license | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 3.9 arrives with stunning editor and more features | Tux Machines | Apr 17 21:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Containers Answer The Right Question | Apr 17 22:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Now you can access Windows PCs and Macs from | Apr 17 22:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android devices http://t.co/TCDddy5u0J | Apr 17 22:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Is Now | Apr 17 22:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download http://t.co/S7dgX3pFOM | Apr 17 22:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 LTS vs. 14.04 LTS Server | Apr 17 22:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Has Been | Apr 17 22:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released and Is Ready to Replace Windows XP | Apr 17 22:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Icehouse: New OpenStack cloud arrives | Apr 17 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Containers Answer The Right Question | Tux Machines | Apr 17 22:46 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now you can access Windows PCs and Macs from Android devices | Tux Machines | Apr 17 22:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Is Now Available for Download | Tux Machines | Apr 17 22:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS vs. 14.04 LTS Server Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Apr 17 22:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Has Been Released and Is Ready to Replace Windows XP | Tux Machines | Apr 17 22:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LG’s golden G3 smartphone is arriving this | Apr 18 00:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Is Now | Apr 18 00:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Available for Download http://t.co/S7dgX3pFOM | Apr 18 00:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LG’s golden G3 smartphone is arriving this summer | Tux Machines | Apr 18 00:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS Screenshot Tour | Apr 18 07:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines | Apr 18 07:03 | |
| Sosumi | http://lh4.ggpht.com/-jEvZ92AfOgE/TqvIgI0UIDI/AAAAAAAAFM0/qlILdBc-PLU/end%252520is%252520near%252520cartoon%25255B6%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800 | Apr 18 07:20 |
| Sosumi | "the end is near" | Apr 18 07:20 |
| Sosumi | well, the end of the week :) | Apr 18 07:20 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I completly forgot about the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS release yesterday | Apr 18 07:23 |
| sebsebseb | since other stuff | Apr 18 07:23 |
| sebsebseb | ah well | Apr 18 07:23 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: altough the Ubuntu release party channel may have been fun so hmm | Apr 18 07:23 |
| Sosumi | I'm not a fan of ubuntu | Apr 18 07:23 |
| sebsebseb | altough it shows how my life has changed | Apr 18 07:24 |
| sebsebseb | years ago I would have not had much else to think about really and so going there no problem | Apr 18 07:24 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I was going to do a talk yesterday, but | Apr 18 07:24 |
| sebsebseb | un well and had travel issues and what not as well, so nope, another time instead | Apr 18 07:24 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: no I don't really like Ubuntu that much either since 2009 | Apr 18 07:25 |
| sebsebseb | ,but it's still one of the best chances at Desktop Linux going more main streame | Apr 18 07:26 |
| Sosumi | oddly enough I always have to do in order to occupy myself | Apr 18 07:26 |
| sebsebseb | to be honest I don't really care about that as much either these days really, but someone in my family is still running unsupported Windwos XP for now, which I am not happy about of course | Apr 18 07:26 |
| sebsebseb | now I just need to test a ISO for what will become Mageia 4.1 | Apr 18 07:26 |
| sebsebseb | which is meant to fix isolinux bugs, where there's issues on old hardware, and the computer won't boot up, from Live CD | Apr 18 07:26 |
| sebsebseb | CD's | Apr 18 07:27 |
| sebsebseb | and well hopefuly that will work and :) | Apr 18 07:27 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: you always have to what to occupy yourself? | Apr 18 07:27 |
| Sosumi | gym, classes, studying, readying, projects | Apr 18 07:27 |
| Sosumi | there's always stuff to do | Apr 18 07:27 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: not in my current life to be honest | Apr 18 07:28 |
| sebsebseb | ,but here and there yes | Apr 18 07:28 |
| sebsebseb | or there is stuff I could do, but don't just do. getting rid of more life junk, sorting out the driiving thorey, just two examples | Apr 18 07:29 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: to many old CD R's and what not here still | Apr 18 07:29 |
| sebsebseb | to go through and get rid of most of them | Apr 18 07:29 |
| Sosumi | I've already got rid of all my cds | Apr 18 07:30 |
| sebsebseb | CD R's | Apr 18 07:30 |
| sebsebseb | or in general | Apr 18 07:30 |
| sebsebseb | music CD's and what not to | Apr 18 07:30 |
| MinceR | http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21601004-why-europes-populists-and-radicals-admire-vladimir-putin-russias-friends-black | Apr 18 07:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.economist.com | Charlemagne: Russia’s friends in black | The Economist [ http://ur1.ca/h3w88 ] | Apr 18 07:30 | |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I'll keep the proper CD's and DVD's, but most CD R's and DVD R's will be going | Apr 18 07:31 |
| sebsebseb | including the really old blank ones I think from years ago | Apr 18 07:31 |
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| Sosumi | ho, I just my music from the piratebay | Apr 18 07:31 |
| Sosumi | *get | Apr 18 07:31 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: that's blocked in this country | Apr 18 07:31 |
| sebsebseb | by ISP's | Apr 18 07:31 |
| sebsebseb | since the goverment requested that | Apr 18 07:31 |
| Sosumi | plus most of the stuff I hear | Apr 18 07:31 |
| Sosumi | is from artists that are already dead | Apr 18 07:31 |
| Sosumi | I'm sure Tchaikovsky wouldn't mind | Apr 18 07:32 |
| sebsebseb | ok, but the record companies still want to profit off that hmm | Apr 18 07:32 |
| Sosumi | nor Ronnie Dio | Apr 18 07:32 |
| Sosumi | that is a problem | Apr 18 07:33 |
| Sosumi | once the record label stops printing the album for 3 years after the artist's death | Apr 18 07:33 |
| Sosumi | the record label should relinquish its rights | Apr 18 07:33 |
| Sosumi | just one example | Apr 18 07:34 |
| MinceR | then they'll never stop printing albums | Apr 18 07:34 |
| Sosumi | but what if ppl don't buy them | Apr 18 07:34 |
| Sosumi | they print according to demmand | Apr 18 07:34 |
| MinceR | just like how movie franchise licensees never stop making comic book movie reboots | Apr 18 07:34 |
| MinceR | so they don't lose the license | Apr 18 07:34 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: why do you say 3 years after | Apr 18 07:34 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: ? | Apr 18 07:34 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: they can keep making a very low number every 3 years | Apr 18 07:35 |
| Sosumi | good point | Apr 18 07:35 |
| Sosumi | but I just said that as an example on the spur of the moment | Apr 18 07:35 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: comic book films, yep Spider man sells | Apr 18 07:37 |
| sebsebseb | and another is out in the cinema now or soon | Apr 18 07:37 |
| Sosumi | spider pig | Apr 18 07:38 |
| sebsebseb | the hobbit sells to | Apr 18 07:38 |
| sebsebseb | and stuff like that | Apr 18 07:38 |
| Sosumi | not a fan of that stuff | Apr 18 07:38 |
| sebsebseb | no me either from what I remember of the lord of the rings movies | Apr 18 07:39 |
| sebsebseb | I haven't seen the two hobbit films | Apr 18 07:39 |
| sebsebseb | yet | Apr 18 07:39 |
| sebsebseb | however that kind of stuff is very popular around here | Apr 18 07:39 |
| Sosumi | sad | Apr 18 07:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi oh that Ubuntu GNOME one that came in on the Tuxmachines feed | Apr 18 07:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi is by schestowitz__ 's wife apparantly | Apr 18 07:43 |
| MinceR | oh really? | Apr 18 07:43 |
| sebsebseb | yep | Apr 18 07:43 |
| sebsebseb | look who it says it's by etc | Apr 18 07:44 |
| MinceR | oh, i thought you were saying Sosumi is schestowitz__'s wife | Apr 18 07:44 |
| Sosumi | lolwoot? | Apr 18 07:44 |
| MinceR | schestowitz__'s wife posting on tuxmachines is not new to me :) | Apr 18 07:44 |
| sebsebseb | yes Sosumi has turned into a woman over night | Apr 18 07:44 |
| MinceR | i missed the "by" | Apr 18 07:44 |
| sebsebseb | and he's loving it | Apr 18 07:44 |
| sebsebseb | being a woman | Apr 18 07:44 |
| sebsebseb | or uh she's even now then :d | Apr 18 07:44 |
| MinceR | probably should have got more sleep | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi likes being a woman much more than a man | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am thinking the same about sleep | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ok I slept a bit in the chari in the living room, but | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | on the | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but get a better sleep in bed, and it's a bit chilly this mornign and such to | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | 6 degree's c apparnatly hmm | Apr 18 07:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yes Sosumi is a woman now, and she's loving being one | Apr 18 07:46 |
| Sosumi | yada yada | Apr 18 07:46 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: you should have put the colon after Sosumi's nick :> | Apr 18 07:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android is the only hope for Intel while | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft’s market declines | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/PrX5H6ZJ6s | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wbf | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/eNNgOOLewk | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wbg | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE 4.1.3 Released, Orphan Linux, and Mint Tips | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/S2c6Hyjx1l | Apr 18 07:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wbh | Apr 18 07:48 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: MinceR oh it's just a tux machiens ink page or whatever, but mentions boht of htem | Apr 18 07:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android is the only hope for Intel while Microsoft’s market declines | Tux Machines | Apr 18 07:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Apr 18 07:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE 4.1.3 Released, Orphan Linux, and Mint Tips | Tux Machines | Apr 18 07:49 | |
| Sosumi | well, | Apr 18 07:55 |
| Sosumi | apparently I need go in order to start doing my "womanly things" | Apr 18 07:55 |
| Sosumi | До скорой встречи! | Apr 18 07:56 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh I had a link for you, but closed it | Apr 18 08:02 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: things a woam should do before she hits 30 | Apr 18 08:02 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh maybe your older than 30 | Apr 18 08:02 |
| Sosumi | *facepalm* | Apr 18 08:04 |
| Sosumi | just get one on what should russian women do before they reach 30 | Apr 18 08:15 |
| Sosumi | but I think it is time already to quit the joke | Apr 18 08:16 |
| Sosumi | and btw I'm 24 | Apr 18 08:16 |
| Sosumi | laters | Apr 18 08:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in January http://t.co/wdFnjSyoG2 | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wvs | Apr 18 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming in January | Tux Machines | Apr 18 09:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ownCloud Promotes Scalability, Efficiency of | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Private Cloud | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qvKaxG4d9l | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wvt | Apr 18 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ownCloud Promotes Scalability, Efficiency of Open Source Private Cloud | Tux Machines | Apr 18 09:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeBSD Advances For ARM, Bhyve, Clang | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/696iC3Xlom | Apr 18 09:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wvu | Apr 18 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD Advances For ARM, Bhyve, Clang | Tux Machines | Apr 18 09:09 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Apr 18 09:24 |
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| schestowitz__ | hey | Apr 18 09:36 |
| schestowitz__ | brb | Apr 18 09:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: The Good, the Bad and the | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Awesome http://t.co/BXTRhCwR2g | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygq | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Battle of the Linux clouds! Linode DOUBLES RAM | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to take on Digital Ocean http://t.co/qSlI2UJTqz | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygr | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apache OpenOffice hits major 100 million | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | downloads milestone in under 2 years | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9xjJb1lJjj | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygs | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNU/Linux on Power8 Servers | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/HXxEnCJxcZ | Apr 18 14:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygt | Apr 18 14:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: The Good, the Bad and the Awesome | Tux Machines | Apr 18 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Battle of the Linux clouds! Linode DOUBLES RAM to take on Digital Ocean | Tux Machines | Apr 18 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apache OpenOffice hits major 100 million downloads milestone in under 2 years | Tux Machines | Apr 18 14:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux on Power8 Servers | Tux Machines | Apr 18 14:31 | |
| schestowitz | I've just reckoned.... | Apr 18 15:05 |
| schestowitz | If 'you are what you eat", when cannibalism makes more sense that eating non-human animals | Apr 18 15:05 |
| schestowitz | So maybe the proverb is just stupid | Apr 18 15:05 |
| cubezzz | you're not what you eat | Apr 18 15:19 |
| cubezzz | you're not bits of steak and potatoes or whatever :) | Apr 18 15:19 |
| cubezzz | the body can make 13 of the 22 amino acids | Apr 18 15:20 |
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| Sosumi | well, I'm not even the same I was this morning | Apr 18 15:31 |
| Sosumi | for now many of my cell have already died and been replaced | Apr 18 15:31 |
| Sosumi | *cells | Apr 18 15:32 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 18 15:32 |
| MinceR | if 'you are what you eat' then you're all plants | Apr 18 15:33 |
| cubezzz | and we know that plants aren't dirt :) | Apr 18 15:34 |
| MinceR | do plants eat dirt? :> | Apr 18 15:34 |
| cubezzz | they take nutrients out of the soil | Apr 18 15:35 |
| MinceR | i take nutrients out of the fridge | Apr 18 15:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 18 15:35 |
| Sosumi | just that? | Apr 18 15:35 |
| cubezzz | some folks say there's biological transmutation | Apr 18 15:36 |
| Sosumi | don't they also do the photosynthesis | Apr 18 15:36 |
| Sosumi | so plants are not photons either | Apr 18 15:36 |
| cubezzz | definitely :) | Apr 18 15:36 |
| MinceR | or carbon dioxide | Apr 18 15:36 |
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| cubezzz | hippies and long hairs use back door? :) | Apr 18 17:13 |
| cubezzz | I'd love to know where that pic came from | Apr 18 17:14 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/pc-mac-linux-bsd.jpg | Apr 18 17:18 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/this-beard-says-pipes.jpg | Apr 18 17:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/uslvBnclRW | Apr 18 17:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Feedback "positive" on Firefox mobile OS, says | Apr 18 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla exec http://t.co/AJljsNNlY6 | Apr 18 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3zjm | Apr 18 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 18 17:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Opteron X Berlin runs Fedora Linux | Apr 18 17:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Om1OJc7YKG | Apr 18 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feedback "positive" on Firefox mobile OS, says Mozilla exec | Tux Machines | Apr 18 17:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3zjn | Apr 18 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Opteron X Berlin runs Fedora Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 18 17:26 | |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/and-the-problem-was-gone.jpg | Apr 18 17:27 |
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| Sosumi | https://i.4cdn.org/gif/src/1397783441921.gif | Apr 18 17:57 |
| schestowitz__ | "Source?" | Apr 18 18:12 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3947706 | Apr 18 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa #surveillance misused to go after #occupy which #fbi called "terrorism" so we know Islamic terrorism is excuse but not principal threat | Apr 18 18:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/nov/25/shocking-truth-about-crackdown-occupy | Apr 18 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Revealed: how the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gc05e ] | Apr 18 18:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | The shocking truth about the crackdown on Occupy | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuynk ] | Apr 18 18:12 | |
| msb | Sosumi: That gif of the little penguin is great! Amazing it can run that fast on those little legs. | Apr 18 18:13 |
| Sosumi | courtesy of some 4chan denizen | Apr 18 18:14 |
| msb | schestowitz__: Re the Naomi Wolf articles: banks and the stock exchange working with the FBI to coordinate attacks on peaceful protestors whom they labelled as "potential terrorists". When do we call it Fascism? | Apr 18 18:27 |
| msb | Newton's Second Law of Motion, published in 1687, plus the videos of the WTC towers falling, *prove* that they were destroyed by implanted explosives, which Muslim terrorists could not possibly have done. http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911 | Apr 18 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Apr 18 18:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | when it's in Italy | Apr 18 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | then it's called fascism | Apr 18 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | insinuating that the US is nazi(ionalist) or fascist gets you lumped in with a group that will get you widely discredited | Apr 18 18:33 |
| msb | 2,000,000 people murdered and several nations destroyed using 9/11 as the excuse. Is that fascism? | Apr 18 18:33 |
| msb | What group is that? | Apr 18 18:33 |
| schestowitz__ | among them: "Paul supporter", "white supremacist", "Islamist", "conspiracy theorist", cult member (small religion/minority) | Apr 18 18:34 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3948258 | Apr 18 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Has #Banksy finally been caught on camera? http://nypost.com/2014/04/17/has-banksy-finally-been-caught-on-camera/ | Apr 18 18:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> nypost.com | Has Banksy finally been caught on camera? | New York Post [ http://ur1.ca/h407b ] | Apr 18 18:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Wow, this guy's works are awesome ..." | Apr 18 18:36 |
| msb | Fascism is control of government by corporations, and its service of their interests, often violently. | Apr 18 18:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3946576 | Apr 18 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming in January http://www.muktware.com/2014/04/project-ara-build-smartphone-coming-january/25829 #ara #android #linux | Apr 18 18:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming in January | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/h407m ] | Apr 18 18:37 | |
| schestowitz__ | "block phone copied or licence bought by google ?" | Apr 18 18:37 |
| schestowitz__ | msb: in my mind, fascicism is opposite, gov controls corporations | Apr 18 18:37 |
| schestowitz__ | like Russia more or less, in USSR | Apr 18 18:38 |
| schestowitz__ | "of course ... And here is how a great project is owend by google ... And here is how all of sheeps will buy it and say "Hey Google create something good" ... And once again Google wins something which that could something else than "big bro device"" | Apr 18 18:38 |
| schestowitz__ | "@Wasabi: Well, if it's open to other manufacturers then people can always undercut any overpricing. @Julien: Depends how locked down it is, if it's possible to install a differeny OS, or buy a FOSH baseboard then it might turn out ok." | Apr 18 18:38 |
| schestowitz__ | "The problem is not the OS in fact, because if it is Android, I think Cyanogen will be developed too. and maybe another OS could run on it... no, the problem is essentially hardware finally because managed by google, and driver support could be hard." | Apr 18 18:38 |
| schestowitz__ | "That's what I mean though, if the whole thing is open (like phoneblokks was supposed to be) then couldn't third parties offer open source hardware and drivers? Given the target market I'd imagine they'd be popular." | Apr 18 18:39 |
| schestowitz__ | "yes, we agree" | Apr 18 18:39 |
| msb | schestowitz__: There are many other people saying that the US is fascist other than the groups you mentioned. In fact, the phrases you mentioned are often used to unjustifiably smear honest researchers and advocates. "Conspiracy theorists" is a term invented by the government to discredit JFK assassination researchers. | Apr 18 18:39 |
| msb | "Fascism is Corporatism" -- Mussolini | Apr 18 18:41 |
| msb | Corporations and ultra-wealthy individuals totally control govt by bribery. They bribe the govt to make laws favorable to them. They bribe the govt to invade and destroy nations that have socialistic economies, so the corporations can then go into those nations and exploit the workers there. | Apr 18 18:43 |
| msb | schestowitz__: The fact that some crazy evil people say that something is true does not make it false. To say that it does is a logical fallacy. In this case, it would prevent people from realizing that the US is in fact fascist even when the soldiers are goose-stepping down the streets and shooting people. "Oh no, we can't use the word 'fascism' -- people would associate us with 'conspiracy theorists' and Ron Paul supporters." | Apr 18 18:48 |
| msb | schestowitz__: If most people are mind-controlled by lying media and government propagands, thanks to Edward Bernays -- which they are -- then censoring our ideas and speech based on what most people would think PREVENTS US FROM THINKING ACCURATELY. | Apr 18 18:51 |
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| DFS | Is Roy Spamowitz here? | Apr 18 18:51 |
| *DFS is now known as Guest36863 | Apr 18 18:51 | |
| Guest36863 | He used to spam comp.os.linux.advocacy with 35-50 NEWS posts per day | Apr 18 18:52 |
| Guest36863 | For 5 years straight | Apr 18 18:52 |
| MinceR | i'm not aware of any person called "Roy Spamowitz" | Apr 18 18:52 |
| Guest36863 | He was a degenerate liar, too. | Apr 18 18:52 |
| Guest36863 | Anyway, Spamowitz now says he's an 'advocate of fair competition' | Apr 18 18:52 |
| MinceR | how does this concern this channel? | Apr 18 18:52 |
| Guest36863 | So, when will Spamowitz begin calling for Linux to put price tags on everything? | Apr 18 18:53 |
| msb | DFS is one of the most active pro-Microsoft anti-Linux posters in comp.os.linux.advocacy. | Apr 18 18:53 |
| MinceR | somehow i suspected that | Apr 18 18:53 |
| Guest36863 | I'm not pro-MS | Apr 18 18:54 |
| Guest36863 | I don't even like them. | Apr 18 18:54 |
| Guest36863 | I like some of their software. | Apr 18 18:54 |
| msb | Apparently he posted first under the nick of "DFS", and then changed to "Guest36863". | Apr 18 18:54 |
| Guest36863 | I didn't change - the channel changed it for me. | Apr 18 18:54 |
| MinceR | he probably didn't identify for DFS | Apr 18 18:54 |
| MinceR | no, the channel did not change it | Apr 18 18:54 |
| MinceR | NickServ changed it. | Apr 18 18:54 |
| Guest36863 | So change it back. | Apr 18 18:54 |
| MinceR | it is none of our concern. | Apr 18 18:55 |
| MinceR | don't you ever read your status/server window? | Apr 18 18:55 |
| Guest36863 | It was flashing by/ jumping around | Apr 18 18:55 |
| msb | DFS routinely refers to Roy as "Spamowitz". | Apr 18 18:55 |
| Guest36863 | So, when will the 'advocate of fair competition' begin calling for price tags on Linux distros and apps? | Apr 18 18:56 |
| Guest36863 | Never, that's when. | Apr 18 18:56 |
| MinceR | why should any advocate of fair competition begin calling for that? | Apr 18 18:56 |
| Guest36863 | Extremely stupid question. | Apr 18 18:56 |
| msb | Which means that he can't answer it. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| MinceR | you'll need to adjust that attitude of yours, Guest36863. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| Guest36863 | Fair competition would require Linux distros/apps to charge similar prices as those found on commercial software products. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| MinceR | no, it would not. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| Guest36863 | Yes, it would. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| cubezzz | http://www.osdisc.com has been selling DVDs and CDs for years | Apr 18 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.osdisc.com | OSDisc.com - Buy Linux CDs and DVDs - New Releases. Low Prices. | Apr 18 18:57 | |
| MinceR | fair competition is not the same as command economy. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| Guest36863 | Giving your code away for free is extremely uncompetitive. | Apr 18 18:57 |
| MinceR | it's not exactly that, though | Apr 18 18:57 |
| Guest36863 | Funny that Linux can't even be given away. | Apr 18 18:58 |
| msb | People create GNU/Linux/FOSS out of enjoyment and generosity and therefore give it away for free. | Apr 18 18:58 |
| MinceR | users contribute in exchange for the software -- bug reports, code fixes/patches, etc. | Apr 18 18:58 |
| Guest36863 | Add a price tag and watch the howls... | Apr 18 18:58 |
| *MinceR adds a price tag saying "0" | Apr 18 18:58 | |
| *MinceR waits for the howls | Apr 18 18:58 | |
| msb | I used to buy Suse boxed sets. | Apr 18 18:58 |
| Guest36863 | But you didn't pay nearly the equivalent of the commercial code. | Apr 18 18:59 |
| MinceR | i also didn't receive the equivalent of the commercial code, thankfully | Apr 18 18:59 |
| cubezzz | you can charge for discs, manuals, etc | Apr 18 18:59 |
| MinceR | as the code you're advertising is of horribly low quality. | Apr 18 18:59 |
| cubezzz | there's no rule saying you can't | Apr 18 18:59 |
| msb | DFS has been spamming COLA for many years. He will never change his mind. He's probably paid by Microsoft. | Apr 18 18:59 |
| Guest36863 | If they create GNU/LInux/FOSS out of generosity, why do most projects ask for donations? | Apr 18 18:59 |
| Guest36863 | Only Spamowitz spammed cola with off-topic NEWS.. 5 years straight | Apr 18 19:00 |
| msb | People have found proof that Microsoft has employees posting to various FOSS forums. | Apr 18 19:00 |
| MinceR | why is news off-topic on COLA? | Apr 18 19:00 |
| Guest36863 | of 35-50 posts per day. Full of lies and deceit. | Apr 18 19:00 |
| msb | Full of great information. | Apr 18 19:00 |
| Guest36863 | If MS does have people posting to forums, so what? | Apr 18 19:00 |
| MinceR | and why do i get the suspicion that what you call "lies and deceit" were merely facts that were inconvenient to microsoft munchkins? | Apr 18 19:01 |
| msb | I wish Roy would start it again. | Apr 18 19:01 |
| Guest36863 | They ought to pay people to counter the lies of Linux idiots. | Apr 18 19:01 |
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| MinceR | no, they paid people to masquerade as grassroots support for microsoft. | Apr 18 19:01 |
| Guest36863 | So? | Apr 18 19:01 |
| MinceR | that's the "lies and deceit" you're looking for. | Apr 18 19:01 |
| cubezzz | astro turfing you mean | Apr 18 19:01 |
| Guest36863 | Who pays Linux "advocates" to lie about MS and Windows? | Apr 18 19:01 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 18 19:01 |
| MinceR | GNU/Linux advocates do not need to lie about m$ and windows, as both are atrocious enough as they are. | Apr 18 19:02 |
| msb | "If MS does have people posting to forums, so what?" The problem is that they don't SAY they work for Microsoft, and are posting to increase MS's profits. | Apr 18 19:02 |
| Guest36863 | They don't need to lie about them, but they do it anyway. | Apr 18 19:02 |
| MinceR | again, what makes this relevant to this channel? | Apr 18 19:02 |
| msb | Nothing. He'll just do it until somebody blocks him. | Apr 18 19:03 |
| Guest36863 | Anyway, my social visit was to ask Spamowitz - the 'advocate of fair competition' - why he doesn't spend years calling for Linux distros and apps to attach a reasonable price tag? | Apr 18 19:03 |
| MinceR | i believe there's no person called "Spamowitz" here | Apr 18 19:03 |
| Guest36863 | Pass the message onto him for me. Watch him run. | Apr 18 19:03 |
| MinceR | nobody of that name responded | Apr 18 19:04 |
| MinceR | looks like you're looking in the wrong place. | Apr 18 19:04 |
| msb | In a free market, people set the prices of their products as they please. | Apr 18 19:04 |
| Guest36863 | There's no M$ or 'munchkins' either. | Apr 18 19:04 |
| Guest36863 | So what are you whining about? | Apr 18 19:04 |
| MinceR | except for people like you, yes | Apr 18 19:04 |
| msb | There are other forms of income than money, such as the satisfaction of helping other people. | Apr 18 19:05 |
| Guest36863 | If that's all they're looking for, why do they ask for donations? | Apr 18 19:05 |
| msb | DFS is a psychopath and has no empathy, so he doesn't know about that. | Apr 18 19:05 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: this might be surprising to you, but despite what bill gates believes, not all software development happens solely in the interest of profits. | Apr 18 19:05 |
| Guest36863 | How would you know what Gates believes? | Apr 18 19:06 |
| MinceR | from his public letter to "hobbyists" | Apr 18 19:06 |
| MinceR | but you haven't read that either, have you? | Apr 18 19:06 |
| Guest36863 | He, MS and Windows have done so much more for the world than 'Free software' will do in 1000 lifetimes. | Apr 18 19:06 |
| MinceR | free software will indeed never do nearly so much harm as he did | Apr 18 19:07 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: so why are you advertising m$ here anyway? what's in it for you? | Apr 18 19:07 |
| MinceR | do they pay you? | Apr 18 19:07 |
| Guest36863 | So much harm that the world runs to MS throwing $80 billion a year at them. | Apr 18 19:07 |
| MinceR | or have you merely made an ill-thought investment in them and aren't willing to learn anything else? | Apr 18 19:07 |
| MinceR | yes, m$ corruption and market manipulation has led to them extorting a lot of money from people and states | Apr 18 19:08 |
| Guest36863 | Same idiocy found in the tiny brains of all FOSS wackos: "MS is paying you", "your job is threatened by Linux", blah blah | Apr 18 19:08 |
| MinceR | for example, the hungarian government pays them a lot for crap they hand to students and lie that they're gratis | Apr 18 19:08 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: you still haven't answered any questions. | Apr 18 19:08 |
| Guest36863 | What questions? | Apr 18 19:09 |
| MinceR | the ones i asked you | Apr 18 19:09 |
| msb | Microsoft has never, and probably will never, produce software that assists and augments human thought processes as effectively as GNU/Linux does. | Apr 18 19:09 |
| Guest36863 | MS isn't paying me. | Apr 18 19:09 |
| MinceR | so, cognitive dissonance, then? | Apr 18 19:09 |
| MinceR | or just plain old brain damage? | Apr 18 19:09 |
| Guest36863 | 'assists and augments human thought processes'.... BWAHA!!! | Apr 18 19:10 |
| Guest36863 | What kind of nutjobs are you people? | Apr 18 19:10 |
| MinceR | msb: i think your words are confusing his tiny mind | Apr 18 19:10 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: yes, what kind of nutjob are you? | Apr 18 19:10 |
| msb | " <Guest36863> If MS does have people posting to forums, so what?" | Apr 18 19:10 |
| Guest36863 | Hey, I bet both you dunces (msb and MinceR) have Windows jobs... most 'Linux advocates' do. | Apr 18 19:11 |
| msb | He as much as admitted it right there. | Apr 18 19:11 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: that's a bet you'd lose | Apr 18 19:11 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: so, do you have any job at all? | Apr 18 19:11 |
| msb | I think he's doing his job right now, right here. | Apr 18 19:11 |
| cubezzz | I use a bunch of different operating sytems | Apr 18 19:12 |
| Guest36863 | What does it matter whether I have a Windows job, a Linux job, or no job? | Apr 18 19:12 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: if it doesn't matter, why do you ask us about it? | Apr 18 19:12 |
| Guest36863 | What matters is when will Spamowitz - the 'advocate of fair competition' - call for LInux to begin competing fairly? | Apr 18 19:12 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: does a windows advocate have a windows job? | Apr 18 19:12 |
| Guest36863 | So? | Apr 18 19:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, so? | Apr 18 19:13 |
| cubezzz | windows user, what a surprise | Apr 18 19:13 |
| Guest36863 | When will it happen that the 'advocate of fair competition' actually advocates fair competition? | Apr 18 19:13 |
| Guest36863 | Never, that's for sure. | Apr 18 19:13 |
| MinceR | it happens all the time | Apr 18 19:13 |
| Guest36863 | Anyway, tell Spamowitz I dropped by and called out his lies and idiocy. | Apr 18 19:14 |
| MinceR | then again, i wouldn't expect a m$ munchkin to have any idea of what "fair competition" is | Apr 18 19:14 |
| msb | Obviously MS is worried about the increasing adoption of GNU/Linux, even though the price of most computers that people buy already includes a payment to MS for Windows, even if the purchaser never uses Windows. | Apr 18 19:14 |
| MinceR | it being anathema to m$, apparently | Apr 18 19:14 |
| cubezzz | sure, whatever mr anonymous 3848592 | Apr 18 19:15 |
| msb | DFS and about ten other MS spammers have totally trashed COLA for years, and made it useless as a Linux forum. | Apr 18 19:15 |
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| MinceR | strange, he gave up | Apr 18 19:18 |
| MinceR | didn't get enough gratis licences for m$ crap this month? | Apr 18 19:18 |
| cubezzz | ok, I was going to kick him but I can't remember how to get ops | Apr 18 19:18 |
| msb | I have never used MS-Windows. Around 1984 I made a terminal emulator in BASIC that I ran under PC-DOS on my 8088 IBM-PC and used it to communicate with a BSD Unix system at a local university. Around 2000 I switched to Linux.. | Apr 18 19:19 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: /cs op #techrights | Apr 18 19:19 |
| MinceR | or /chanserv op #techrights | Apr 18 19:19 |
| MinceR | or /quote chanserv op #techrights | Apr 18 19:19 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to cubezzz | Apr 18 19:19 | |
| MinceR | or /raw chanserv op #techrights | Apr 18 19:19 |
| cubezzz | yay | Apr 18 19:19 |
| MinceR | msg works too, but is less secure :) | Apr 18 19:19 |
| cubezzz | I can't believe I didn't write that down | Apr 18 19:19 |
| MinceR | (some scripts seem to use msg with a full nick!user@host spec, that's probably more secure than plain msg) | Apr 18 19:20 |
| cubezzz | you're more patient that me MinceR | Apr 18 19:20 |
| cubezzz | I think I would have kicked him out sooner | Apr 18 19:20 |
| msb | MinceR: Your little person-picture in the Konversation nick list is bold, so I think that means you are already an op. | Apr 18 19:20 |
| MinceR | not really, i've asked Roy if i should remove him :> | Apr 18 19:21 |
| MinceR | msb: i am but cubezzz wanted to know how to get op | Apr 18 19:21 |
| msb | Right. | Apr 18 19:21 |
| cubezzz | oh well, so much for today's excitement | Apr 18 19:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 18 19:22 |
| cubezzz | I didn't really understand his arguments | Apr 18 19:22 |
| msb | Debating a shit-hole like that does clarify one's own thoughts on the subject. | Apr 18 19:22 |
| cubezzz | I knew he'd be a windows person :) | Apr 18 19:23 |
| msb | Nobody could understand his arguments, because they were totally bogus. | Apr 18 19:23 |
| cubezzz | duh, I only know how to use one operating system | Apr 18 19:23 |
| cubezzz | I didn't get the chance to ask him if he compiles his kernel | Apr 18 19:23 |
| msb | His arguments were predicated on lies. | Apr 18 19:24 |
| cubezzz | that's my favourite anti-troll comment | Apr 18 19:24 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 18 19:24 |
| MinceR | are you sure he knows what a "kernel" is? :> | Apr 18 19:24 |
| cubezzz | am I sure? no | Apr 18 19:25 |
| msb | Not only doesn't he compile his own kernel (which I don't either, but I could), but he doesn't examine his own mind. So he has no free will. He's not really conscious. | Apr 18 19:26 |
| cubezzz | it's like not knowing how to cook | Apr 18 19:27 |
| *MinceR doesn't know how to cook | Apr 18 19:27 | |
| cubezzz | so you eat fast food all the time... it's not healthy | Apr 18 19:27 |
| MinceR | not all the time | Apr 18 19:28 |
| msb | Psychopaths can't reconcile their thoughts and behavior with what they know is necessary for human survival and success. So they can't examine their ideas and motives. It would create too much cognitive dissonance. | Apr 18 19:28 |
| MinceR | not even most of the time | Apr 18 19:28 |
| cubezzz | just make mrproper, make menuconfig and pick what you want | Apr 18 19:29 |
| MinceR | cooking doesn't work that way :> | Apr 18 19:29 |
| cubezzz | cooking is like programming... | Apr 18 19:29 |
| msb | Asian fast food can be excellent. | Apr 18 19:29 |
| MinceR | yeah, i had chinese once this week | Apr 18 19:30 |
| cubezzz | no one goes around saying "you can't use that recipe for apple pie" | Apr 18 19:30 |
| cubezzz | it's just stupid | Apr 18 19:30 |
| msb | There's a great Chinese place near me, and they deliver! | Apr 18 19:30 |
| MinceR | well, if m$ got into the food business, they would | Apr 18 19:30 |
| cubezzz | but for some reason, people put up with closed source | Apr 18 19:30 |
| msb | A. Most people don't know much about computing. B. Microsoft spends huge amount of money on lying adverts to deceive people. | Apr 18 19:31 |
| cubezzz | msb, you're old enough to know about the pre-windows and pre-microsoft era | Apr 18 19:32 |
| cubezzz | there was sharing of code... | Apr 18 19:32 |
| msb | Teriyaki, that was it! There was a wonderful Japanese teryaki fast-food place in San Francisco I used to go to all the time. | Apr 18 19:32 |
| cubezzz | on BBSes and even usenet | Apr 18 19:33 |
| msb | cubezzz: yes. I used to see lots of sharing of Unix code on Usenet through my Unix account. | Apr 18 19:33 |
| msb | A lot of it was archived on Simtel20 at White Sands AFB (or whatever it was). | Apr 18 19:34 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3944638 | Apr 18 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **"Driving" in style**  #gif | Apr 18 19:35 | |
| msb | You got it not by ftp, there was some other protocol, which I forget. | Apr 18 19:35 |
| schestowitz__ | "I guess I want to see those legs make like the roadrunner. But then I guess that should have been a Plymouth Roadrunner he pulled up next to." | Apr 18 19:35 |
| cubezzz | not to mention a lot of magazines published source code listings | Apr 18 19:35 |
| cubezzz | Dr Dobb's published the source for Tiny BASIC in 1975 | Apr 18 19:36 |
| cubezzz | msb, uucp? | Apr 18 19:36 |
| msb | There was a format for publishing source code in Usenet articles. It wasn't compressed, but had some extra characters for getting whitespace right. | Apr 18 19:37 |
| MinceR | uuencode? | Apr 18 19:37 |
| msb | cubezzz: I remember uucp, but that was a lower-level protocol. | Apr 18 19:37 |
| cubezzz | and the DECUS tapes, I've tapped into that | Apr 18 19:38 |
| cubezzz | some good stuff in there | Apr 18 19:38 |
| msb | MinceR: yes, I think my terminal would do uuencode and uudecode, but this was something else. I thing wget may still do it. | Apr 18 19:38 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 18 19:39 |
| cubezzz | I think ftp predates even tcp/ip | Apr 18 19:40 |
| cubezzz | it used NCP, which was the precursor of tcp/ip | Apr 18 19:40 |
| msb | This was another protocol for wandering around in a directory structure and downloading what you wanted. But I can't remember the name! | Apr 18 19:41 |
| cubezzz | not gopher? | Apr 18 19:41 |
| cubezzz | WAIS? | Apr 18 19:42 |
| msb | Maybe it was gopher. That feels kind of close to it. | Apr 18 19:42 |
| msb | So long ago... | Apr 18 19:43 |
| MinceR | "When Massachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy learned of BBN's accomplishment in signing this million-dollar agreement, he sent a telegram congratulating the company for being contracted to build the "Interfaith Message Processor"." | Apr 18 19:45 |
| MinceR | i lol'd | Apr 18 19:45 |
| cubezzz | doh | Apr 18 19:45 |
| msb | Gopher still has its adherents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_%28protocol%29 | Apr 18 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gopher (protocol) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/h40ts ] | Apr 18 19:48 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 18 19:48 |
| MinceR | http://port70.net/ | Apr 18 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-port70.net | Gopher: | Apr 18 19:48 | |
| msb | "The master Gopherspace search engine is Veronica. Veronica offers a keyword search of all the public Internet Gopher server menu titles. " | Apr 18 19:49 |
| MinceR | " name derives from the word "archive" without the v. Alan Emtage has said that contrary to popular belief, there was no association with the Archie Comics and that he despised them.[5] Despite this, other early Internet search technologies such as Jughead and Veronica were named after characters from the comics." | Apr 18 19:50 |
| MinceR | another funny tidbit | Apr 18 19:50 |
| MinceR | also, there was a "The" at the beginning that i've managed to not select. | Apr 18 19:50 |
| cubezzz | that Archie guy never ages | Apr 18 19:51 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 18 19:51 |
| cubezzz | he's been in high school for over 70 years | Apr 18 19:51 |
| msb | "The master Gopherspace search engine" -- gives the impression of an enormous gopher who knows everything in the worldwide system of gopher tunnels. | Apr 18 19:53 |
| MinceR | but can't fit in them, as it's enormous :> | Apr 18 19:54 |
| msb | Gophers played an important part in the very funny movie Caddyshack (1980) with Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, and Rodney Dangerfield. Definitely worth watching. | Apr 18 19:55 |
| msb | It can be found in that most naughty of naughty places, YIFY. | Apr 18 19:56 |
| msb | Or so I once heard. | Apr 18 19:57 |
| MinceR | yify? sounds naughty | Apr 18 19:57 |
| msb | Yes, it is full of extreme naughtiness, high-res x264 encoded in very small file size. | Apr 18 20:00 |
| msb | Or so people say. | Apr 18 20:00 |
| msb | The IMDB trivia for Caddyshack is very interesting, but read it only after watching the movie. | Apr 18 20:05 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.openpr.com/news/285689/Red-Hat-Enables-Cloud-Flexibility-with-Red-Hat-Enterprise-Linux-and-Google-Compute-Engine.html?SID=f1224f888df02a237f8c68d213ac47e3 | Apr 18 20:15 |
| schestowitz__ | "Tim Yeaton, senior vice president, Infrastructure Group, Red Hat" | Apr 18 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openpr.com | openPR.com - Press release - Red Hat Inc. - Red Hat Enables Cloud Flexibility with Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Google Compute Engine [ http://ur1.ca/h4125 ] | Apr 18 20:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | Foermerly Black Duck | Apr 18 20:15 |
| schestowitz__ | and RHAT before that | Apr 18 20:15 |
| schestowitz__ | now RHT | Apr 18 20:15 |
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| cubezzz | ok, I've updated my basic linux notes | Apr 18 20:49 |
| cubezzz | http://www.cubeman.org/basic-linux.txt | Apr 18 20:50 |
| msb | This is scary: http://www.naturalnews.com/044778_artificial_intelligence_extinction_humankind.html | Apr 18 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.naturalnews.com | Scientists warn the rise of AI will lead to extinction of humankind [ http://ur1.ca/h41i6 ] | Apr 18 20:55 | |
| cubezzz | lol | Apr 18 20:55 |
| cubezzz | not scary to me | Apr 18 20:55 |
| cubezzz | since our AI really sucks :) | Apr 18 20:55 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure that the extinction of humankind would be such a bad thing | Apr 18 20:55 |
| msb | Laugh while you can, Monkey boy. | Apr 18 20:56 |
| MinceR | that's ape, not monkey. | Apr 18 20:56 |
| MinceR | also ballmer is Monkey Boy. | Apr 18 20:56 |
| cubezzz | I have way less hair that either :) | Apr 18 20:56 |
| cubezzz | than even | Apr 18 20:56 |
| msb | It's a line from Buckaroo Banzai, another very good movie, but not a comedy. | Apr 18 20:57 |
| MinceR | i haven't seen it yet | Apr 18 20:57 |
| cubezzz | if I see robots lurching around everywhere then I might get a bit nervous | Apr 18 20:57 |
| cubezzz | but all I see are roombas :) | Apr 18 20:58 |
| MinceR | roombas are robots | Apr 18 20:58 |
| MinceR | and they were seen carrying cats around | Apr 18 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | yikes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Mono_3.4 http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/770237-fedora-21-gets-gnome-312-php-56-mono-34/ | Apr 18 20:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Changes/Mono 3.4 - FedoraProject [ http://ur1.ca/h41k3 ] | Apr 18 20:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Fedora 21 Gets GNOME 3.12, PHP 5.6, Mono 3.4 | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/h41k4 ] | Apr 18 20:59 | |
| schestowitz__ | hopefully not by default | Apr 18 20:59 |
| MinceR | http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2473590/cat-on-roomba-driver-o.gif | Apr 18 20:59 |
| MinceR | and so falls fedora | Apr 18 20:59 |
| cubezzz | see, this is why I study older stuff | Apr 18 21:00 |
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| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/catsridingroombas/ | Apr 18 21:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Cats riding motherfucking roombas [ http://ur1.ca/h41kv ] | Apr 18 21:01 | |
| cubezzz | ha, there was hercules support in bl3 | Apr 18 21:02 |
| cubezzz | xmono.tgz | Apr 18 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 wows through subtlety | Apr 18 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/c53luTnsIj | Apr 18 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h41lq | Apr 18 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 wows through subtlety | Tux Machines | Apr 18 21:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 will power “first commercially | Apr 18 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available Ubuntu tablets” | Apr 18 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/tZhE0ibnHM | Apr 18 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h41lr | Apr 18 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 will power “first commercially available Ubuntu tablets” | Tux Machines | Apr 18 21:03 | |
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| msb | The important thing is that AI will not lead to the extinction of cats. Apparently they have a symbiotic relationship. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cat+roomba | Apr 18 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | cat roomba - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h41u6 ] | Apr 18 21:20 | |
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| MinceR | :) | Apr 18 21:21 |
| MinceR | or should i say... | Apr 18 21:21 |
| MinceR | :3 | Apr 18 21:21 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.tomsguide.com/us/samsung-galaxy-s5-fingerprint-hack,news-18655.html | Apr 18 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomsguide.com | Samsung Galaxy S5's Fingerprint Scanner Hacked [ http://ur1.ca/h41xz ] | Apr 18 21:35 | |
| Sosumi | just like the hypephone | Apr 18 21:35 |
| MinceR | it always was just security theater | Apr 18 21:35 |
| MinceR | or even less | Apr 18 21:35 |
| Sosumi | a gimmick and in no way seller for cigar cutters | Apr 18 21:36 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/psa-dozens-of-games-available-for-99-cents-each-on-psn-this-weekend/ | Apr 18 21:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | PSA: Dozens of games available for 99 cents each on PSN this weekend | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h421v ] | Apr 18 21:53 | |
| Sosumi | lol sony trouncing m$ | Apr 18 21:53 |
| Sosumi | too bad that the games seem meh | Apr 18 21:57 |
| Sosumi | or is it me that is biased towards quake 3 arena | Apr 18 21:58 |
| Sosumi | and those fast arena shooters | Apr 18 21:58 |
| Sosumi | of which no one makes anymore | Apr 18 21:58 |
| Sosumi | gn | Apr 18 21:58 |
| MinceR | o/ | Apr 18 21:59 |
| msb | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z7EKD6N3HM | Apr 18 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Dogs and cats meeting for the first time - Cute and funny dog & cat compilation - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h4233 ] | Apr 18 22:00 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands on with Ubuntu 14.04: The best Ubuntu | Apr 18 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | desktop ever http://t.co/IrD73JfvWQ | Apr 18 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h42m0 | Apr 18 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 13-Way Low-End GPU Comparison With AMD's AM1 | Apr 18 22:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Athlon http://t.co/GyCuTx0Phg | Apr 18 22:50 |
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| cubezzz | ok msb_ you might find this interesting | Apr 19 01:10 |
| cubezzz | the video card glitch happened, so I tried the idea of using /sbin/modprobe vga16fb to see if I could make the text console visible | Apr 19 01:13 |
| cubezzz | it worked but it needed two steps | Apr 19 01:13 |
| cubezzz | first change from radeon to vesa driver in xorg.conf | Apr 19 01:13 |
| cubezzz | then /sbin/modprobe vga16fb | Apr 19 01:13 |
| cubezzz | then change from vesa back to radeon | Apr 19 01:13 |
| cubezzz | poof.... text console works :) | Apr 19 01:14 |
| cubezzz | first time I've ever been able to make the text console visible after the glitch happened | Apr 19 01:14 |
| cubezzz | also I can manifest the glitch on demand now | Apr 19 01:19 |
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| msb | cubezzz: How did you do all this if the video card wasn't giving you a readable display? Come in on the network from another computer, as root? | Apr 19 02:11 |
| msb | cubezzz: Or was X working, even while the text console was messed up? | Apr 19 02:12 |
| cubezzz | msb_ yes that's it | Apr 19 04:00 |
| cubezzz | X is fine and viewable, only the text console is corrupted | Apr 19 04:00 |
| cubezzz | but at least now I have a way to fix it | Apr 19 04:01 |
| cubezzz | there doesn't seem to be any way to rmmod vga16fb | Apr 19 04:06 |
| msb | cubezzz: After you do this, isn't your system using vga16fb for the text console? | Apr 19 05:52 |
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| msb | MinceR: Hi! | Apr 19 13:38 |
| msb | Fascism marches on: http://www.activistpost.com/2014/04/kill-switch-included-on-all-cell-phones.html | Apr 19 13:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.activistpost.com | Activist Post: ‘Kill Switch’ Included on All Cell Phones Made in U.S. by 2015 [ http://ur1.ca/h49ne ] | Apr 19 13:38 | |
| MinceR | what's even sadder, it will probably appear in cell phones made elsewhere, too | Apr 19 13:39 |
| msb | All those little black objects that people were holding up at the Bundy Ranch encounter with federal troops were cell phones, recording the troops' actions. | Apr 19 13:40 |
| msb | Now cops and feds and any govt will be able to wipe those pix and videos instantly so they can't be used as evidence. | Apr 19 13:40 |
| MinceR | i don't quite understand how "required" and "voluntary" go together in this case, though | Apr 19 13:41 |
| msb | I don't know, but all the phone mfrs are apparently in on it. Now you'd think they'd be against that "anti-theft" measure, because if someone's phone is stolen, they're just gonna buy another one. Ka-ching! | Apr 19 13:42 |
| msb | Let's hope someone makes an open-source phone, or one that can be rooted, and this can be fixed by users. | Apr 19 13:44 |
| msb | As it is now, cops have to be very careful. The *only* times they get convicted is when someone records their beating/shooting on a cell-phone. | Apr 19 13:46 |
| msb | And more and more people have them. | Apr 19 13:46 |
| msb | Damn! Yahoo cut off all my list mail ten days ago because some mail bounced at some time, and hasn't sent me anything. For all I know, the Earth could have ascended into the Fifth Dimension. | Apr 19 14:21 |
| msb | It's fascism all over again, I tell ya! | Apr 19 14:22 |
| MinceR | it's bad idea to rely on yahoo anyway | Apr 19 14:23 |
| msb | Well, I was still getting stuff from a few non-yahoo lists. | Apr 19 14:24 |
| msb | But most lists moved to yahoo years ago. It's the only way to access them. | Apr 19 14:24 |
| MinceR | anyone could run their own lists on their own server(s) via mailman, for example | Apr 19 14:25 |
| MinceR | there's no need to give the opportunity to cut anyone off to a microsoft shell company. | Apr 19 14:25 |
| msb | Aggh! Yahoo is owned by MS?? | Apr 19 14:26 |
| MinceR | not sure if they're owned by m$, but they serve m$ | Apr 19 14:26 |
| msb | How? | Apr 19 14:27 |
| MinceR | their "search engine" is nothing but a front end to bìng, for example | Apr 19 14:27 |
| msb | I just use google, a front end to the CIA. | Apr 19 14:27 |
| MinceR | not to the nsa? | Apr 19 14:28 |
| MinceR | also, you can achieve further isolation from google via startpage and/or tor | Apr 19 14:28 |
| msb | You're right, sorry. Got my TLAs confused. | Apr 19 14:28 |
| msb | With my website, trying to hide is useless. | Apr 19 14:28 |
| MinceR | you could still deprive them of some information, though | Apr 19 14:29 |
| msb | Nothing that would do me any good. | Apr 19 14:30 |
| msb | MinceR: The possible future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQMAGT-3wx4 | Apr 19 14:33 |
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| msb | MinceR: Hopefully you're not at work and can listen to it. | Apr 19 14:34 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 19 14:40 |
| msb | MinceR: That's the future we want to *prevent*. | Apr 19 14:56 |
| msb | MinceR: Have you lived through that kind of thing? | Apr 19 14:57 |
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| cubeman_ | msb_, yeah it must be | Apr 19 15:05 |
| cubeman_ | brb | Apr 19 15:05 |
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| cubezzz | also I don't seem to have any mouse access using vga16fb | Apr 19 15:07 |
| msb | cubezzz: hey, could I phone you on xxx-x218? | Apr 19 15:08 |
| cubezzz | it would be a long distance call | Apr 19 15:08 |
| msb | cubezzz: I have free LD to there. | Apr 19 15:09 |
| cubezzz | ok | Apr 19 15:09 |
| MinceR | msb: not yet | Apr 19 15:10 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/history-of-x.txt | Apr 19 15:34 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | And that is me finished for the day. Yet again I’ve neglected my writing and tomorrow I’ll hopefully be recording for the TechBytes show (as well as having a day of football viewing) – so thats another day lost. For those interested TechBytes is part of a collaborative work under the BytesMedia umbrella. You can visit the site here: http://www.bytesmedia.co.uk .https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3951927 | Apr 19 16:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Alot of sites do that now. Combined with how much flash player slows computers and the lack of analog volume controls on modern PCs and it's a recipe for disaster." | Apr 19 16:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bytesmedia.co.uk | Bytes Media - Sites Index | Apr 19 16:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nytimes started this very annoying thing which is auto-playing videos. Load a page and it may then cause embarrassment in a public place. | Apr 19 16:39 | |
| cubezzz | yeah flash kind of sucks | Apr 19 17:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I don't need it, but Androiud | Apr 19 18:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | included it by default | Apr 19 18:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullrun_(decryption_program) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/09/crucial-unanswered-questions-about-nsa-bullrun-program | Apr 19 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bullrun (decryption program) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/h4d26 ] | Apr 19 19:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Revealed: how US and UK spy agencies defeat internet privacy and security | World news | Guardian Weekly [ http://ur1.ca/fe498 ] | Apr 19 19:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Crucial Unanswered Questions about the NSA's BULLRUN Program | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/fgbam ] | Apr 19 19:12 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "There are real NSA programs designed to weaken encryption standards and specific implementations but Orchestra is a fictional operation imagined by Poul-Henning Kamp. Kamp was using the imagined program as a way of explaining otherwise inexplicable behavior and to propose concerted effort to clean up stuff like OpenSSL. Bullrun [2, 3] is an example of a program specifically designed to weaken encryption in the way Kamp was | Apr 19 19:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | talking about." | Apr 19 19:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It might be trademarked. Either way, guess who grabbed the domain and comemercialised it? it's not the man from Google. He even gave money he got to the proxy that funds WIKILEAKS :-) | Apr 19 19:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat CEO Outlines Linux Growth Strategy | Apr 19 19:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat CEO Outlines Linux Growth Strategy | Tux Machines | Apr 19 19:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines XP shutdown: Switch to free software, say FSMI | Apr 19 19:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | activists http://t.co/XVX776cjs7 | Apr 19 19:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | XP shutdown: Switch to free software, say FSMI activists | Tux Machines | Apr 19 19:17 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3951079 | Apr 19 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **Scientology Has a Dirty Little Secret. And L. Ron Hubbard’s Great-Grandson Just Exposed It. | Mobiledia** - http://www.mobiledia.com/news/191386.html | Apr 19 19:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mobiledia.com | Scientology Has a Dirty Little Secret. And L. Ron Hubbard’s Great-Grandson Just Exposed It. | Mobiledia [ http://ur1.ca/h4d4w ] | Apr 19 19:19 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Scientology is a bunch of ridiculous BS without ANY sense. Also, if you read about all of that crap then it becomes clear that the guy had a serious mental illness, was deluded, or just was a great prankster with Sci-Fi twist." | Apr 19 19:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | A lot of bigger religions with broader following are equally ridiculous, just like their prophets or originators. | Apr 19 19:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3949149 | Apr 19 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **The JOY of Easter**   #easter #gif | Apr 19 19:20 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Hahah, the first pic blew my mind. Superfunny!" | Apr 19 19:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3952428 | Apr 19 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:  | Apr 19 19:20 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Still more credible than the bible..." | Apr 19 19:20 |
| cubezzz | lol, scary | Apr 19 19:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 19 19:25 |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, if you're still around you may appreciate this: | Apr 19 19:58 |
| cubezzz | http://www.emulators.com/docs/nx02_standards.htm | Apr 19 19:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.emulators.com | NO EXECUTE! Sep. 10 2007 [ http://ur1.ca/h4djj ] | Apr 19 19:58 | |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3953268 | Apr 19 20:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Deaths monetiser #EliLilly asks politicians to help it profit from deaths using extortionate monopolies (patents) http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140416/12350326936/eli-lilly-enlists-us-representatives-fight-against-canada-refusing-patent-useless-drug.shtml | Apr 19 20:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Eli Lilly Enlists Congress In Fight Against Canada For Refusing Patent On Useless Drug | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/h3tza ] | Apr 19 20:49 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I'm not in favour of having any IP anymore, but the "useful" requirement seems to be the least important one of the three to me. If they ditched it altogether and actually applied "original" and "non-obvious" I wouldn't be at all upset: If the patent is useful then they'll be able to licence it If it's non-useful then noone will want to licence it anyway" | Apr 19 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtHmKLHtZvg | Apr 19 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Richard Stallman interview pt2, Windows and Apple rob privacy (15July13) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h4e6a ] | Apr 19 20:53 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | cubezzz: it's very long, which part is most relevant? | Apr 19 20:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenMandriva RC1 is released! | Apr 19 21:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines For Red Hat, it's RHEL and then…? | Apr 19 21:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva RC1 is released! | Tux Machines | Apr 19 21:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | For Red Hat, it's RHEL and then…? | Tux Machines | Apr 19 21:02 | |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, it's very interesting, a microsoft guy was criticizing microsoft | Apr 19 23:33 |
| cubezzz | I worked at Microsoft at a time when the company had pretty much taken the market share away from Lotus 1-2-3, Word Perfect, and dBase. By the mid-1990's, Microsoft all but owned the word processing and spreadsheet spaces. And with that control it regularly modified the file formats for applications such as Word and Excel, and even Outlook and PowerPoint. The Office file formats change just about every 2 or 3 years and I have lost track of how many uniq | Apr 19 23:33 |
| cubezzz | ue Office file formats there have been. | Apr 19 23:33 |
| cubezzz | After owning over 90% of the word processor and spreadsheet market they apparently started to assume that all their customers would just blindly upgrade Microsoft Office every year | Apr 19 23:34 |
| cubezzz | this from a former Microsoft guy | Apr 19 23:35 |
| cubezzz | he even uses the same terminology I used... | Apr 19 23:37 |
| cubezzz | the "Dark Ages" of personal computing | Apr 19 23:37 |
| cubezzz | although I disagree when the Dark Ages happened | Apr 19 23:37 |
| cubezzz | he says 2000 to 2005 | Apr 19 23:37 |
| cubezzz | I'd say it's more like 1995 to 2003 | Apr 19 23:38 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if it's over yet | Apr 19 23:44 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Microsoft people have to start planning an exit | Apr 19 23:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | or they will die along with MS | Apr 19 23:47 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't mind if they did | Apr 19 23:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3953316 | Apr 19 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft Abandons #Windows 8.1: Take Immediate Action Or Be Cut Off Like #WindowsXP http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/04/15/microsoft-abandons-windows-8-1-take-immediate-action-or-be-cut-off-like-windows-xp/ http://techrights.org/2014/04/18/crackers-and-windows/ | Apr 19 23:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.forbes.com | Microsoft Abandons Windows 8.1: Take Immediate Action Or Be Cut Off Like Windows XP - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/h4eld ] | Apr 19 23:47 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "@Sean: I only need windows temporarily for a programming thing. I'm thinking of ditching it once it's done. | Apr 19 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft is Leaving Windows — Including Vista 8.1 — Vulnerable to Non-Government Crackers, Not Only to NSA | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/h4elf ] | Apr 19 23:47 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I only use it to write for my Ph.D. program. There are some style requirements and compatibility issues that I cannot solve with LibreOffice. So having it as something I bring up only when needed while preserving my Linux environment is perfect. And yes, I've repeatedly tried running Office under Wine. I've failed every time." | Apr 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Older versions should work | Apr 19 23:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3951994 | Apr 19 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Forget Dropbox: #BitTorrent Sync Allows You To Skip the Cloud Entirely http://betabeat.com/2014/04/forget-dropbox-bittorrent-sync-allows-you-to-skip-the-cloud-entirely/ move your files away from #prism this Easter | Apr 19 23:48 | |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | "true dat, about time they open up the sources, as they promised" | Apr 19 23:48 |
| MinceR | i wrote my first thesis with openoffice and the second with LaTeX | Apr 19 23:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I used lyx | Apr 19 23:49 |
| MinceR | i edited the latex source with vim | Apr 19 23:50 |
| msb | MinceR: "<MinceR> i wouldn't mind if they [died with MS]" MinceR, you should not insult or attack Windows *users*. They are our future *customers*! (at no cost) | Apr 19 23:51 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, well the chromebooks seem to be doing well | Apr 19 23:52 |
| MinceR | msb: some of them are entirely deserving of insults, though | Apr 19 23:52 |
| cubezzz | I'd say the worst is over, hopefully? | Apr 19 23:52 |
| msb | MinceR: Why? | Apr 19 23:52 |
| MinceR | msb: some of them are part of the problem | Apr 19 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Screenshots of Ubuntu-based Distros | Apr 19 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/JdmoO189hI | Apr 19 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h4g5j | Apr 19 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Screenshots of Ubuntu-based Distros | Tux Machines | Apr 19 23:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines We still believe in Linus’ law after Heartbleed | Apr 19 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | bug, says Elie Auvray of Jahia | Apr 19 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8X0qrwn0KR | Apr 19 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h4g5k | Apr 19 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | We still believe in Linus’ law after Heartbleed bug, says Elie Auvray of Jahia | Tux Machines | Apr 19 23:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Please protest the "Windows 8 Campus Tour" | Apr 19 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bpPcgcBUxc | Apr 19 23:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h4g5l | Apr 19 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Please protest the "Windows 8 Campus Tour" | Tux Machines | Apr 19 23:52 | |
| MinceR | msb: some of them are fighting engineers to drag us into m$ hell | Apr 19 23:52 |
| msb | MinceR: How, unless they are MS advocates? | Apr 19 23:52 |
| cubezzz | did that Guest guy make a re-appearance? | Apr 19 23:52 |
| MinceR | some m$ users are m$ advocates | Apr 19 23:53 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: no, afaik | Apr 19 23:53 |
| msb | Right, they should be attacked. But not non-advocate ms users. They are current victims, and our future customers and associates. | Apr 19 23:53 |
| cubezzz | yeah, you can't attack customers :) | Apr 19 23:54 |
| msb | I had to tell this to Linux advocates on COLA all the time when I was on there. Most of them didn't listen. | Apr 19 23:54 |
| MinceR | msb: our future customers and associates won't die with m$ | Apr 19 23:55 |
| MinceR | _because_ they'll become our future customers and associates. | Apr 19 23:56 |
| msb | But if we're nasty to them, they'll think of Linux people as nasty, just like MS has been telling them we are! | Apr 19 23:56 |
| msb | They might go to Mac instead. | Apr 19 23:57 |
| msb | Ick. | Apr 19 23:57 |
| MinceR | crApple should die too | Apr 19 23:57 |
| msb | Yep | Apr 19 23:57 |
| MinceR | they seem to be declining as well | Apr 19 23:57 |
| cubezzz | the market is glutted | Apr 19 23:58 |
| cubezzz | PCs are really on the decline | Apr 19 23:58 |
| cubezzz | partly because people aren't upgrading as often | Apr 19 23:59 |
| cubezzz | partly because of mobile computing devices | Apr 19 23:59 |
| msb | To originate content, one needs a real keyboard and a good-sized screen. | Apr 19 23:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Box joins the open source bandwagon with new showcase http://t.co/oM8KtSVZOy http://t.co/f8qz2D8Nng | Apr 13 03:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Collateral Benefits of India's Open Source Drug Discovery Programme http://t.co/JU1r0BThME saving lives by sharing | Apr 13 03:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #RedHat answers governments’ questions on Freeware and Open Source http://t.co/3Web60oSg6 when government don't grasp freedom | Apr 13 03:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Out in the Open: Build Your Own Siri With This Free Code and without #apple and #google (PRISM) recording all http://t.co/B5kIxDR9CE | Apr 13 03:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When Should We Go Open Source? http://t.co/bM88YKIOwj free, not open | Apr 13 03:54 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Open source gives new life to old Windows XP machines http://t.co/zBlriJBwJX another article advising people to move to #gnu #linux | Apr 13 03:54 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: University Of Maryland Explores Open Source Textbooks http://t.co/SZLrjlxILy #sharing economy | Apr 13 03:54 | |
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| schestowitz_log_ | https://twitter.com/RichardSmedley/status/455252646493188096 https://twitter.com/RichardSmedley/status/455252882787680256 | Apr 13 04:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardSmedley: @schestowitz Interesting. Where is the hardware equivalent of sourceforge? Perhaps github works as well for circuit revisions as code? | Apr 13 04:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardSmedley: @schestowitz ...though there's OpenCores for CPUs, of course. | Apr 13 04:28 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | I think you have identified a gap; would be nice to have schematic diff, commit, etc. | Apr 13 04:29 |
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| schestowitz_log_ | nice simple widget: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/64917 | Apr 13 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Weekend in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 13 06:11 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | oops. handy: http://countingdownto.com/ | Apr 13 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-countingdownto.com | Create a Countdown Clock Widget for Your Website | CountingDownTo.com | Apr 13 06:11 | |
| schestowitz_log_ | That's the right link | Apr 13 06:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455292033939537920 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455290488216911874 | Apr 13 06:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Economist Thomas Piketty's message is bleak: the gap between rich and poor threatens to destroy us" http://t.co/rYvlnaXLVs | Apr 13 06:32 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/p/3920193 | Apr 13 06:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Silicon Valley co... | Apr 13 06:42 | |
| schestowitz | Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/12/silicon-valley-nsa-reform-taking-so-long #obama works for1% & #nsa which works for the 1% | Apr 13 06:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? | Trevor Timm | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/h2ind ] | Apr 13 06:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/IanTheInventor/status/455296444573163520 | Apr 13 06:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@IanTheInventor: @schestowitz @PaulbernalUK I thought Copyright infringement was about people profiting from pretending to be an established business | Apr 13 06:52 | |
| schestowitz | Depends what the copyright is on, e.g. work of dead artist... | Apr 13 06:52 |
| MinceR | geekings | Apr 13 06:54 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, I'm reading here it's possible for the console to be taken over by a loadable module | Apr 13 06:55 |
| cubezzz | e.g. /sbin/modprobe uvesafb | Apr 13 06:57 |
| schestowitz | wow, neocons: http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/13697/nsa-leaks-fallout-will-fade-faster-than-hit-to-u-s-pride | Apr 13 07:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldpoliticsreview.com | NSA Leaks Fallout Will Fade Faster Than Hit to U.S. Pride [ http://ur1.ca/h2it4 ] | Apr 13 07:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2014/04/11/national-security-agency-heartbleed-bug-spying/7609019/ | Apr 13 07:16 |
| schestowitz | "Even if we are to believe the NSA, and I'm reluctant given its shaky track record, the damage has been done to the tech community." | Apr 13 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | First Take: The Latest Apparent NSA Outrage [ http://ur1.ca/h2itj ] | Apr 13 07:16 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.foxbaltimore.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/gogo-other-wifi-providers-gives-information-nsa-27091.shtml | Apr 13 07:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foxbaltimore.com | Go-Go And Other Wi-Fi Providers Gives Information To NSA - WBFF Fox Baltimore - Top Stories [ http://ur1.ca/h2iu4 ] | Apr 13 07:21 | |
| msb_ | "Even if we are to believe the NSA, and I'm reluctant given its shaky track record, the damage has been done to the tech community." | Apr 13 08:02 |
| msb_ | Perhaps all the revelations of NSA spying have benefitted the tech community. | Apr 13 08:03 |
| msb_ | Many techies tend to be apolitical, perhaps because technology provides such an enjoyable area of interest, while politics are unpleasant. | Apr 13 08:04 |
| msb_ | But now, a whole new array of people have been forced to realize how evil -- untrustworthy and harmful -- the U.S. government actually is. | Apr 13 08:05 |
| msb_ | It has hit them where they live. | Apr 13 08:05 |
| msb_ | Awareness of the evil is the most important factor in ridding the world of it. | Apr 13 08:06 |
| cubezzz | well that was interesting | Apr 13 08:06 |
| cubezzz | I actually managed to change the text console | Apr 13 08:06 |
| msb_ | More and more people are questioning the 9/11 attacks, which were the pretext for the US/Israeli War of Terror. | Apr 13 08:07 |
| msb_ | Every increase in people's awareness of the dominator psychopaths is a step forward. | Apr 13 08:08 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, I mangaged to switch from bog standard 80x25 text to vga16fb | Apr 13 08:09 |
| cubezzz | anyways, it's in the log if you ever come across it | Apr 13 08:09 |
| msb_ | Congrats cubezzz. Yes, IIRC, you can do that with kernel options at startup. | Apr 13 08:10 |
| cubezzz | msb_, this is dynamic | Apr 13 08:10 |
| msb_ | Oho! | Apr 13 08:10 |
| msb_ | So it's a loadable kernel module? | Apr 13 08:11 |
| cubezzz | yes | Apr 13 08:11 |
| cubezzz | works in 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, although those are the only 2 I've tried so far | Apr 13 08:13 |
| cubezzz | now the interesting part is... will this fix a messed up text console | Apr 13 08:13 |
| msb_ | Exactly what I was going to ask. | Apr 13 08:14 |
| cubezzz | well I have to get it to mess up first to test that | Apr 13 08:14 |
| msb_ | How often has it been happening? | Apr 13 08:14 |
| cubezzz | ha | Apr 13 08:14 |
| cubezzz | it happens about once or twice a month | Apr 13 08:15 |
| msb_ | Do you monitor your cpu and mobo temperature sensors? | Apr 13 08:15 |
| msb_ | KDE4 system monitor can do that. | Apr 13 08:16 |
| cubezzz | you can monitor my sensors :) | Apr 13 08:16 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/cgi-bin/sensors.cgi | Apr 13 08:16 |
| cubezzz | I don't think I'm using -12V or -5V | Apr 13 08:18 |
| cubezzz | I think -12V was actually dropped from ATX a while back | Apr 13 08:18 |
| msb_ | Isn't science wonderful! | Apr 13 08:21 |
| msb_ | What program gives you that listing? | Apr 13 08:21 |
| cubezzz | it's part of lm_sensors | Apr 13 08:26 |
| cubezzz | yeah KDE 3.X probably has something | Apr 13 08:28 |
| cubezzz | but it's nice to be able to use it in text mode | Apr 13 08:28 |
| msb_ | I just loaded an rpm that supposedly has it, but it's not showing up yet. Have to look in half an hour when this anime' I'm watching is over. | Apr 13 08:33 |
| msb_ | There's so much I don't know. I feel like I'm Dilbert going up against Techno-Bill! | Apr 13 08:34 |
| cubezzz | well I was in the video game industry for quite a while | Apr 13 08:36 |
| cubezzz | so I picked up a bit about low-level stuff | Apr 13 08:37 |
| msb_ | At least I was an expert on the IBM-PC. Used to write wedges that went into the BIOS interrupt chains. | Apr 13 08:37 |
| cubezzz | probably the coreboot guys know the most | Apr 13 08:37 |
| cubezzz | the learning curve is a lot higher now | Apr 13 08:38 |
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| cubezzz | so many different motherboards, chipsets, etc | Apr 13 08:38 |
| msb_ | And I'm also putting a lot of effort into understanding and publicizing what's really going on in the world, e.g., http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911 | Apr 13 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Apr 13 08:40 | |
| msb_ | And https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqs7GJ0jdY | Apr 13 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Psychopathy in Politics and Finance - Stefan Verstappen on GRTV - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/g85hq ] | Apr 13 08:42 | |
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| schestowitz | Russian propagandahttp://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_04_13/CIAs-head-has-come-to-Ukraine-to-instruct-power-agencies-unofficial-source-6354/ http://www.voanews.com/content/the-cias-cultural-war-against-soviet-russia/1890560.html | Apr 13 08:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-voiceofrussia.com | CIA's head has come to Ukraine to instruct power agencies - unofficial source - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video [ http://ur1.ca/h2j8h ] | Apr 13 08:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | The CIA’s Cultural War Against Soviet Russia [ http://ur1.ca/h2j8i ] | Apr 13 08:50 | |
| schestowitz | Federal Court: Drone Killing of U.S. Citizens Is Constitutional http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/18019-federal-court-drone-killing-of-u-s-citizens-is-constitutional and if this does not worry the population, nothing will | Apr 13 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewamerican.com | Federal Court: Drone Killing of U.S. Citizens Is Constitutional [ http://ur1.ca/h2j9s ] | Apr 13 08:54 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/455334379280027649 | Apr 13 09:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@angrymofo: @schestowitz Not yet, I really hope something like #Heartbleed turns up in #Snowden's leaked docs. Exploits like this are their everyday job | Apr 13 09:21 | |
| schestowitz | One job among several, and the goal is not to fix em :-) | Apr 13 09:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455334172689965056 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455331932705128448 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455330615530098688 | Apr 13 09:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Links: Surveillance, Intervention, Torture and Drones http://t.co/XamlTGNwhU "spreading democracy", aggressively | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Links: Surveillance, Intervention, Torture and Drones | Techrights | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CNN: "CIA...called things like waterboarding "enhanced interrogation methods." But the only adequate word to describe them is "torture."" | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: US Interrogator Calls CIA Program 'Stanford Prison Experiment Writ Large' http://t.co/TJX1jyKnlH experiment on live sample | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.businessinsider.com | CIA Enhanced Interrogation Was Out Of Control - Business Insider | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455330188617089024 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329791148052480 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329535081603072 | Apr 13 09:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Rep. Ellison calls for speedy release of report on CIA interrogations http://t.co/5PQoTtYDmJ asking truth from the #cia a risky proposition | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.startribune.com | Rep. Ellison calls for speedy release of report on CIA interrogations | Star Tribune | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CIA profiling reminds US Arabs of the Mukhabarat http://t.co/zpxQBpK6Gz #mccarthyism | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenational.ae | CIA profiling reminds US Arabs of the Mukhabarat | The National | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CIA's "harsh interrogations" exceeded legal authority - report http://t.co/4WS9azV99U hence, no authority exists above CIA | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> in.reuters.com | CIA's harsh interrogations exceeded legal authority - report | Reuters | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329349622038528 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455329102829207552 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455328531040727040 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455327946530914304 | Apr 13 09:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: It seems as though, based on sources inside the #nsa , #heatbleed used by NSA for years, but NSA denies it b/c there's no leaked doc | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: One leak can do a while lot more than a lot of activism which can be denied as "false" http://t.co/ifh0lDLRte http://t.co/6QRsHVxm97 | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.scmp.com | CIA tortured prisoners and lied to US Justice Department, Senate report says | South China Morning Post | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bradblog.com | Leaked Findings of Senate Report on 'CIA Torture and Detention' Detail Illegalities, Incompetence, Endangerment of National Security, War Crimes | The BRAD BLOG | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Now We Know What's Being Done In Our Name http://t.co/UAbbrrGWlA and we can do more to stop this. #snowden #wikileaks | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.esquire.com | CIA Torture Report Leak - Now We Know What's Being Done In Our Name - Esquire | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Those not distracted by #gop #propaganda (mostly Fox) over #morell may have seen reports such as (2013): http://t.co/H2aNSwbePC | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | CIA 'running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked' - Telegraph | Apr 13 09:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455327240499503104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455327240499503104 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455326743944253440 | Apr 13 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Syria #cia and #mi6 intervention: "Ankara worked with the US and Britain to smuggle Gaddafi's guns to rebel groups" http://t.co/XCgXFviy9n | Apr 13 09:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | MI6, the CIA and Turkey's rogue game in Syria - Comment - Voices - The Independent | Apr 13 09:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The leaked report about #cia #torture reveals Zero Dark Thirty to be not just #propaganda but also #revisionism - #torture did not work. | Apr 13 09:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455326398874664961 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455326042476249088 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455325254219755521 | Apr 13 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "CIA misled the media and the public about the effectiveness of cruel and unusual" #torture http://t.co/t4aNRkO7vW | Apr 13 09:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.salon.com | Torture report leak: CIA methods “brutal,” “worse than communicated” - Salon.com | Apr 13 09:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #uk helped #cia #torture not just in #soctland according to reports http://t.co/85oIfBRyyy http://t.co/NJJaoS63YN | Apr 13 09:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | UK urged to admit that CIA used island as secret 'black site' prison | World news | The Observer | Apr 13 09:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | British gave 'full co-operation' for CIA black jail on Diego Garcia, report claims - Telegraph | Apr 13 09:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: British press carries on with "black box" #propaganda and endless promises, optimism. At stake? #Boeing sales. http://t.co/gGJHib4Uiw | Apr 13 09:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Missing Malaysian plane's black box batteries may have died - The Times of India | Apr 13 09:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455296206101811200 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455295518995132417 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455294818638635008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455294509216452608 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455294231226372096 | Apr 13 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #NSA allowed to keep secret some Internet security flaws, officials say http://t.co/vcbrNZQes3 cracking is good, believes USG | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bostonglobe.com | Obama allows NSA to keep some Internet security flaws secret, officials say - Nation - The Boston Globe | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: When cracker does not work for government, s/he starts nuclear war. When cracker works for government, it's security. We are the Good Guys! | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NSA Blows Its Own Top Secret Program in Order to Propagandize https://t.co/javgGvmBIX #nsa leads to deaths. #droNSA | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org | NSA Blows Its Own Top Secret Program in Order to Propagandize - The Intercept | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: According to #nytimes (Pentagon apologist), #obama is now cracker in chief and the whole nation should be proud of it. #crime | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Obama Lets N.S.A. Exploit Some Internet Flaws, Officials Say http://t.co/9xZLYxNR1g good report by Sanger | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455293836450091008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455293156456951808 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455292354094989312 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455292033939537920 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455290488216911874 | Apr 13 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The #oppression example of #cia and #nsa is now inspiring tyrannies elsewhere http://t.co/WLV4JdrjCU 'US model' spreads. | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hurriyetdailynews.com | Turkey’s intel agency to have NSA-like body - POLITICS | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? http://t.co/zcchB7SF5w ... https://t.co/x5y9t1yLzN | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Silicon Valley could force NSA reform, tomorrow. What's taking so long? | Trevor Timm | Comment is free | theguardian.com | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joindiaspora.com | Silicon Valley co... | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: US did not arrest or harass journalists, hopefully not just out of fear of Streisand Effect http://t.co/wfaCN9M1oA http://t.co/QkrC03Uj4W | Apr 13 09:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Journalists who broke NSA story in Guardian dedicate award to Snowden | World news | theguardian.com | Apr 13 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.kxnet.com | 2 reporters who probed NSA surveillance back in US - KXNet.com - Bismarck/Minot/Williston/Dickinson-KXNEWS,ND | Apr 13 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Indian press turns #greenwald into an #apple product http://t.co/aJhX7kbPIy | Apr 13 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.business-standard.com | iGreenwald back in US after NSA revelations | Business Standard | Apr 13 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Economist Thomas Piketty's message is bleak: the gap between rich and poor threatens to destroy us" http://t.co/rYvlnaXLVs | Apr 13 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Capitalism simply isn't working and here are the reasons why | Will Hutton | Comment is free | The Observer | Apr 13 09:30 | |
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| msb_ | Note the use of special words that somehow induce people to turn off their humanity. "War" -- actually means attacking and invading a country that never did anything against the U.S., and murdering a million of its people. But if the govt calls it "war" then Americans accept these MILLION MURDERS as being OK. Whereas one murder makes headlines. | Apr 13 10:30 |
| msb_ | "Insurgent" actually means a person trying to defend their country against the American mass-murdering invaders. But when these defenders are labelled "insurgents", then Americans think it's great to murder them. | Apr 13 10:32 |
| msb_ | ...and torture them too. | Apr 13 10:32 |
| msb_ | The use of these propaganda words is a form of mind-control. | Apr 13 10:33 |
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| msb_ | Described by George Orwell in _1984_ (published in 1949) -- "We Have Always Been At War With Eastasia" | Apr 13 10:36 |
| Sosumi | no | Apr 13 10:38 |
| Sosumi | there are many forms of war | Apr 13 10:38 |
| Sosumi | some include slander or character assassination | Apr 13 10:39 |
| Sosumi | to economic warfare | Apr 13 10:39 |
| Sosumi | either in the form of sanctions or shipping the problem abroad | Apr 13 10:40 |
| Sosumi | kind of like US did in 2008 | Apr 13 10:40 |
| Sosumi | in shipping its problems to the euro | Apr 13 10:40 |
| Sosumi | too bad the characters upn the in frankfurt and bruxels failed to see that | Apr 13 10:41 |
| Sosumi | *up there in Frankfurt... | Apr 13 10:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455355416743272449 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455355856910303232 | Apr 13 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "readable, clear, innocent and straightforward as possible, and yet it must fail to perform at its apparent function" http://t.co/jgLf7v5rmL | Apr 13 10:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455339136925577216 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455350381544210432 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455351236741849088 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455352416096227328 | Apr 13 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> underhanded.xcott.com | The Underhanded C Contest | Apr 13 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The different a space can make https://t.co/qdBl8bxP7Z | Apr 13 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> github.com | GIANT BUG... causing /usr to be deleted... so sorry.... issue #123, issu... · a047be8 · MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned · GitHub | Apr 13 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Who Pays the Price? The Human Cost of Electronics http://t.co/b2t99QhFPe #externality | Apr 13 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Who Pays the Price? The Human Cost of Electronics - YouTube | Apr 13 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #robin seggelmann "insists he has no association with intelligence agencies, and also notes that..." http://t.co/DXgpQyg6OW #cryptocalypse | Apr 13 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | The Big Question: When Did The NSA Know About Heartbleed? | Techdirt | Apr 13 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cia #nsa operation #ORCHESTRA http://t.co/vZU99Pcuh6 bringing people for #bugdoors | Apr 13 10:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3920971 | Apr 13 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | hmm.. kills it | Apr 13 10:50 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: Remember General Semantics -- *subscripting*. A single word -- "war" -- may have many uses and meanings. war1 does not equal war2. That doesn't disprove the fact that war1 is used as mind-control -- a trigger-word to make the listener turn off their humanity. | Apr 13 10:51 |
| Sosumi | heartbleed only proved two things | Apr 13 10:51 |
| Sosumi | 1, don't overwork yourself | Apr 13 10:51 |
| Sosumi | 2, you need proper quality assurance aka do the code reviewing with your head in the right place | Apr 13 10:52 |
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| Sosumi | msb_ is at it again, trigger words, yes and standardized behaviour that come from the media and movies | Apr 13 10:54 |
| Sosumi | we "all" should know that | Apr 13 10:54 |
| Sosumi | but nvm | Apr 13 10:54 |
| Sosumi | or you'll blow it out of proportion as usual | Apr 13 10:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455357883958702080 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455358098153406464 | Apr 13 10:54 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: Are you saying that when I note that most Americans are mind-controlled so they don't care if their government murders two million people, that I'm "blow[ing] it out of proportion" ? | Apr 13 10:57 |
| Sosumi | ppl are so jaded right now about everything that they resort to all sorts of escapism | Apr 13 10:58 |
| Sosumi | in order to not hear abou problems any more | Apr 13 10:58 |
| Sosumi | which takes to ask you if you know why the math book committed suicide | Apr 13 10:59 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: So your explanation is not that they're being mindcontrolled but that they're "jaded"? | Apr 13 10:59 |
| Sosumi | *me | Apr 13 10:59 |
| Sosumi | because it was filled it problems | Apr 13 10:59 |
| Sosumi | same thing, most folks can take 1 or 2 crisis at the same time | Apr 13 11:00 |
| msb_ | And yet people react to a single murder reported in the news. | Apr 13 11:00 |
| Sosumi | after that, puff mind blown and they can't take it anymore | Apr 13 11:00 |
| Sosumi | and there comes your prozac and alikes | Apr 13 11:01 |
| Sosumi | no idea of what goes on amerikkkan news channels | Apr 13 11:01 |
| Sosumi | I just report it how I observe it here | Apr 13 11:01 |
| Sosumi | in lisbon or in londistan | Apr 13 11:01 |
| msb_ | Well, the main thing is that our news never describes US atrocities accurately in context. | Apr 13 11:02 |
| msb_ | It always uses lying propaganda words like "insurgent". | Apr 13 11:02 |
| msb_ | The reason is simple: The US news media are controlled by the same ultra-wealthy psychopaths that control the US government. | Apr 13 11:03 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: The Underhanded C Contest is hilarious! | Apr 13 11:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thelocal.de/20140402/german-town-passau-bans-mother-from-calling-child-wikileaks | Apr 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz | But imposing Islam on baby is OK | Apr 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz | And in the UK the most common baby name is now an ethnic cleanser who married a 9-year-old after murdering her parents | Apr 13 11:27 |
| schestowitz | insurgent is a nebulous term | Apr 13 11:28 |
| schestowitz | you might as well call insugents the additional troops that the US send to invasions | Apr 13 11:29 |
| schestowitz | and remember who's being invader; reversal of roles here: people invade by trying to chase away an invader | Apr 13 11:29 |
| Sosumi | isn't that called amarikkkan exceptionalism | Apr 13 11:35 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: America imposed Islam on Afghanistan by arming the Mujahiddeen in the 80's as a way of making trouble for the USSR. | Apr 13 11:36 |
| msb_ | Islam, and the related Judaism and Christianity, all have a genocidal psychopath deity, and all promote male-supremacy. All are harmful and should not be imposed on anyone. http://www.evilbible.com/ | Apr 13 11:38 |
| msb_ | "insurgent" is a lying propaganda word used to label people who are trying to defend their country against a mass-murdering US invasion/takeover. That's what the word is used for. | Apr 13 11:40 |
| Sosumi | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY2Mjc | Apr 13 11:47 |
| Sosumi | "The GNOME Foundation Is Running Short On Money" | Apr 13 11:47 |
| Sosumi | gnome 3 is awesome, not | Apr 13 11:49 |
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| schestowitz | Sosumi: see the reason | Apr 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz | promotion of feminism is not cheap | Apr 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz | equality does not, IMHO, require PR | Apr 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz | and Karen Sandler recently stepped down | Apr 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz | she went back to SFLC | Apr 13 12:14 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455370228877504512 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455369176417579008 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455368771554009088 | Apr 13 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The British army doesn’t want you to know what it did in Afghanistan http://t.co/irZF1Fs3aV http://t.co/0Ag3n0XmQf http://t.co/IEnLLUncaV | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.salon.com | The British army doesn’t want you to know what it did in Afghanistan - Salon.com | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk | MoD accused over Afghanistan book - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | Second army officer quits to reveal ‘human cost of Afghanistan’ - Home News - UK - The Independent | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "The UK authorities are trying to block their own report on Afghanistan." http://t.co/touI57HHHA #uk #censorship | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mintpressnews.com | The British Army Doesn’t Want You To Read This Book | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Wikileaks case: Chelsea Manning's appeals lawyer calls soldier's 35-year sentence excessive http://t.co/fLkAsSsMET 35 years proportional | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theprovince.com | Wikileaks case: Chelsea Manning's appeals lawyer calls soldier's 35-year sentence excessive | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455366097899126786 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455365446603386881 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455364965969698816 | Apr 13 12:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Patents allowed to impose a religion on a baby, but it's a name that the government deems "harmful" http://t.co/reHm6vUz0R | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | Parents banned from naming baby WikiLeaks after officials ruled it was potentially harmful - Europe - World - The Independent | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: German government denies a name http://t.co/od1HfJh1ZC US government had no issue with "Google" (surveillance company) | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> globalnews.ca | No, you can’t name your son WikiLeaks – and other bizarre baby names | Globalnews.ca | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #WikiLeaks Unveils #NETmundial 2014: 23 Governments Draft Agreement On 'The Future Of Internet' http://t.co/FOXHAUEjlW #security | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ibtimes.com | WikiLeaks Unveils NETmundial 2014: 23 Governments Draft Agreement On 'The Future Of Internet' | Apr 13 12:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455364132452458496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455363855389310976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/455362311147241473 | Apr 13 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: DOJ Seeks Dismissal of Case Challenging NDAA Indefinite Detention http://t.co/h0jneNtbor #cia #torture for #us citizens also | Apr 13 12:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenewamerican.com | DOJ Seeks Dismissal of Case Challenging NDAA Indefinite Detention | Apr 13 12:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Al-Qaeda and #cia fighting common enemies http://t.co/Fh1Rax8Rne | Apr 13 12:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenewamerican.com | American-Backed Syrian Rebels Don't Mind Al-Qaeda Cohorts | Apr 13 12:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Thinking of Trying Linux Mint 16 Cinnemon on Old Systems http://t.co/Da0JbjXD29 #linuxmint #gnu #linux | Apr 13 12:17 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techspot.com | Thinking of Trying Linux Mint 16 Cinnemon on Old Systems - TechSpot Forums | Apr 13 12:17 | |
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| Sosumi | I didn't know that something like an equal rights for male and female devs required money | Apr 13 12:26 |
| Sosumi | like putting some PR stuff on their website like "everyone is welcome to contribute" | Apr 13 12:27 |
| Sosumi | doesn't seem like a money pit | Apr 13 12:27 |
| Sosumi | now if they misused the funds well, the ppl who did so must be held accountable | Apr 13 12:28 |
| Sosumi | but as for me, I'd just let gnome go | Apr 13 12:28 |
| schestowitz | doesn't red hat sponsor it? | Apr 13 12:35 |
| Sosumi | they do | Apr 13 12:36 |
| Sosumi | but I'd rather prefer that they didn't | Apr 13 12:36 |
| Sosumi | and instead supported mate or enlightenment or windowmaker | Apr 13 12:37 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/samsungs-cancer-stricken-workers-are-focus-of-new-debate-in-south-korea/ | Apr 13 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Samsung’s cancer-stricken workers are focus of fresh debate in South Korea | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h2kkb ] | Apr 13 12:44 | |
| cubezzz | write your own wm | Apr 13 12:50 |
| cubezzz | pick the toolkit you like... | Apr 13 12:50 |
| Sosumi | no time | Apr 13 12:51 |
| cubezzz | modern jwm compiles in 30 secs or less :) | Apr 13 13:11 |
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| _Goblin | schestowitz, you there? | Apr 13 13:14 |
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| roy_ | sebsebseb: | Apr 13 16:18 |
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| _Goblin | What an interesting episode.....great stuff Roy...look forward to hearing it. | Apr 13 16:32 |
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| Sosumi | more news about the hypephone | Apr 13 17:08 |
| Sosumi | aside from the thiner design and a new cpu (so they say) | Apr 13 17:08 |
| Sosumi | it'll still keep the paltry 1 GB ram | Apr 13 17:08 |
| Sosumi | which is laughable at best | Apr 13 17:09 |
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| MinceR | not as laughable as the OS | Apr 13 17:09 |
| Sosumi | and no details about the next iteration of the lsdOS | Apr 13 17:10 |
| Sosumi | but the samsung fork of android doesn't seem that great either | Apr 13 17:16 |
| Sosumi | compared to the lsdOS | Apr 13 17:17 |
| Sosumi | one is lacking | Apr 13 17:17 |
| Sosumi | the other is bloated | Apr 13 17:17 |
| MinceR | my phone can handle that bloat :> | Apr 13 17:19 |
| Sosumi | which phone do you have? | Apr 13 17:19 |
| MinceR | samsung galaxy note ii lte | Apr 13 17:20 |
| Sosumi | has samsung already released the kitkat update for it? | Apr 13 17:21 |
| MinceR | dunno | Apr 13 17:23 |
| cubezzz | you'll be pleased to hear I don't own a hypephone :) | Apr 13 18:24 |
| MinceR | gn | Apr 13 18:53 |
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| Sosumi | mornings | Apr 14 01:25 |
| Sosumi | cubezzz, judging you, I bet you're still using a motorola dynatac | Apr 14 01:28 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 14 01:28 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Apr 14 04:24 |
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| msb_ | Hi MinceR! | Apr 14 04:38 |
| msb_ | MinceR: If you're there, I think there's a simple set of economic concepts that we could both agree on, and thereby stop fighting with each other, bringing up the past, and telling each other to go live somewhere. If you're there, I'll lay it out. | Apr 14 04:47 |
| MinceR | i'm here | Apr 14 04:49 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux 3.15-rc1 Was Just Released & It's Real | Apr 14 05:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Big http://t.co/UpRB8N5D5u | Apr 14 05:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 3.15-rc1 Was Just Released & It's Real Big | Tux Machines | Apr 14 05:11 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: OK, first some (alternative) sociology. There are two types of society -- Partnership and Dominator. In partnership societies everyone has fairly equivalent social standing, and they treat each other as they themselves would want to be treated. In dominator societies, there is substantial stratification in wealth and power, with those at the top exploiting those below. | Apr 14 05:14 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: These terms are used in the seminal book _The Chalice and the Blade_, by Riane Eisler. Essential reading! | Apr 14 05:15 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Dominator systems are run by psychopaths. | Apr 14 05:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Now to economics. Capitalism and Socialism each have Partnership and Dominator versions. | Apr 14 05:17 |
| msb_ | MinceR: For capitalism, and example of a partnership system would be a wonderful market I shop at. Every morning their trucks go to farms and farmers' markets and buy vegetables, bring them back to the urban market, and sell them cheaper than supermarkets -- often half the price. | Apr 14 05:19 |
| msb_ | MinceR: For dominator capitalism, an example is the US corporate/government system, which utilizes mass murder (millions of victims) for profit. 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, ... | Apr 14 05:21 |
| msb_ | MinceR: For partnership socialism, there's Nicaragua, which has a democratically elected socialist government, and sharing of resources such as agricultural equipment. For dominator socialism, there was Stalinist USSR. | Apr 14 05:23 |
| msb_ | MinceR's name is greyed out in the nick list. I hope he can scroll back when he returns. | Apr 14 05:24 |
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| Sosumi | msb_ again | Apr 14 05:47 |
| Sosumi | blowing everything out of proportion | Apr 14 05:47 |
| msb_ | Sosumi: Please clarify. | Apr 14 05:48 |
| MinceR | msb_: i'm processing it | Apr 14 05:49 |
| MinceR | msb_: the theory seems to make sense; i'm not sure about Nicaragua (or whether "partnership socialism" was ever implemented) | Apr 14 05:51 |
| MinceR | msb_: i'm looking up the book | Apr 14 05:51 |
| MinceR | maybe i'll rea dit | Apr 14 05:53 |
| MinceR | s/ d/d / | Apr 14 05:53 |
| MinceR | also, i'd say dominator capitalism occurs when the free market is distorted by market actors or the state, and/or when the state is captured by business, or vice versa | Apr 14 05:57 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Here's a good page of links in Eisler's website: http://www.partnershipway.org/about-cps/foundational-concepts/creating-a-partnership-culture | Apr 14 05:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.partnershipway.org | Creating A Partnership Culture — Center for Partnership Studies [ http://ur1.ca/h2ran ] | Apr 14 05:58 | |
| msb_ | and this one too: http://www.partnershipway.org/about-cps/foundational-concepts | Apr 14 05:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.partnershipway.org | Foundational Concepts — Center for Partnership Studies [ http://ur1.ca/h2rau ] | Apr 14 05:58 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: David Korten bases his social/economic ideas on partnership/dominator (From Empire to Community) -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPiZJ5N9TkY | Apr 14 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | David Korten - The Great Turning - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h2rbs ] | Apr 14 06:01 | |
| msb_ | MinceR: That video of Korten is *really* worth watching! | Apr 14 06:03 |
| MinceR | i can't watch videos at work, though | Apr 14 06:03 |
| msb_ | Can you watch it at home? | Apr 14 06:04 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 14 06:04 |
| msb_ | Great. | Apr 14 06:04 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Beyond the two problems of capitalism that you mentioned, another occurs when technology advances to the point where only a small fraction of the population has to work at 40hr/week jobs to produce enough goods and services for everyone. We reached that point some time ago, and have filled in with make-work jobs like advertising, drug enforcement, victimless crime enforcement and large prison populations, real estate and stock speculation, etc. | Apr 14 06:08 |
| msb_ | MinceR: But actual unemployment in the US is at about 25% and rising. Unless we adopt partnership principles of sharing and equality, we're going to have a lot of homeless starving people. | Apr 14 06:10 |
| MinceR | i'm not worried about that | Apr 14 06:10 |
| MinceR | if we can do menial work with machines, we can get more rest | Apr 14 06:10 |
| MinceR | as long as the same (or greater) value is produced, why worry about wasting less time with work? | Apr 14 06:11 |
| msb_ | Yes, but how do people get money if there are not jobs for them? | Apr 14 06:11 |
| MinceR | i don't know | Apr 14 06:11 |
| MinceR | what i do know is that once we manage to eliminate scarcity, it won't matter | Apr 14 06:11 |
| MinceR | and technology will be instrumental in that | Apr 14 06:12 |
| msb_ | We can already eliminate scarcity. | Apr 14 06:12 |
| MinceR | hopefully people can gradually transition to more mental jobs in the meantime | Apr 14 06:12 |
| msb_ | 99% of the wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population. | Apr 14 06:12 |
| msb_ | If it were spread around better, there'd be no scarcity. | Apr 14 06:12 |
| msb_ | There aren't enough mental jobs to soak up the unemployed. | Apr 14 06:13 |
| msb_ | Not nearly enough. | Apr 14 06:13 |
| MinceR | competition is pretty lacking in several markets, more jobs could be created there | Apr 14 06:14 |
| msb_ | In the limiting case, machines will provide all goods and services. But no one will have a job or money, so they won't be able to buy any. | Apr 14 06:14 |
| msb_ | Competition is just another kind of make-work. | Apr 14 06:14 |
| MinceR | except it's useful | Apr 14 06:15 |
| msb_ | Lots of different car companies doing the same R&D. It's a waste of effort. | Apr 14 06:15 |
| MinceR | without scarcity, nobody will need to buy anything | Apr 14 06:15 |
| MinceR | not necessarily the same R&D | Apr 14 06:15 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of different paths | Apr 14 06:15 |
| msb_ | But in capitalism, someone always owns the machines, and will require payment for their products. | Apr 14 06:16 |
| msb_ | Ownership of the producing machines in common, and free access to their products is ...Socialism! | Apr 14 06:16 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if those concepts have meaning when there's no scarcity | Apr 14 06:17 |
| msb_ | But what does "no scarcity" mean? Who owns the machines that creates the goods and services? | Apr 14 06:19 |
| msb_ | creates--> create | Apr 14 06:19 |
| MinceR | everyone could own a swarm of nanobots that could be used to build the tools that are needed | Apr 14 06:21 |
| MinceR | for example | Apr 14 06:21 |
| msb_ | If the richest 1% didn't suck up 99% of the wealth now, we could all work 16hrs/week and have plenty. | Apr 14 06:21 |
| MinceR | it could even be part of their body | Apr 14 06:21 |
| msb_ | Nanobots are in the far future. What we have now is computer-controlled robotic machines. They can produce almost everything we need, but if they are owned by capitalists, no one will have a job to get money to buy the machines' products. | Apr 14 06:23 |
| msb_ | Nanobots are also very dangerous -- the "gray goo" problem. | Apr 14 06:24 |
| msb_ | A little programming error, and the whole planet is consumed. | Apr 14 06:24 |
| MinceR | don't let microsoft and apple program them, then | Apr 14 06:25 |
| msb_ | Anyone will be able to program them, and some will make mistakes. | Apr 14 06:25 |
| MinceR | then we will have countermeasures | Apr 14 06:26 |
| cubezzz | someone has to fix the robots, unless you develop robots that can fix other robots | Apr 14 06:26 |
| cubezzz | Mincer :) | Apr 14 06:26 |
| msb_ | IIRC, Drexler said that everything on Earth will have to have a coating of defensive nanomachines to protect it. Every blade of grass! | Apr 14 06:27 |
| cubezzz | all those pie in the sky predictions never come true though | Apr 14 06:27 |
| msb_ | Let's hope not! | Apr 14 06:27 |
| cubezzz | no HAL 9000, no true AI | Apr 14 06:27 |
| cubezzz | a self-programming computer, laughable | Apr 14 06:28 |
| MinceR | what's laughable about that? | Apr 14 06:28 |
| msb_ | But even a stupid AI, if programmed to protect itself and connected to military resources, could take over. | Apr 14 06:28 |
| cubezzz | we got windows instead | Apr 14 06:28 |
| MinceR | windows is dying | Apr 14 06:28 |
| cubezzz | no computer can do what a human baby does | Apr 14 06:29 |
| msb_ | Asimov wrote various stories about robes that figured out how to circumvent the Three Laws! | Apr 14 06:29 |
| MinceR | a human baby might be a computer | Apr 14 06:29 |
| MinceR | and a future human baby might contain computers :> | Apr 14 06:30 |
| cubezzz | augmentation, yes | Apr 14 06:31 |
| cubezzz | that's possible | Apr 14 06:31 |
| msb_ | A clever but immoral lawyerbot could trash the Three Laws in microseconds! | Apr 14 06:31 |
| MinceR | and human babies can exist in a universe simulated by a computer | Apr 14 06:31 |
| cubezzz | progress is happening, it's just slower than Sci-Fi predicted, much much slower | Apr 14 06:32 |
| MinceR | also, every blade of grass is already constantly fighting with pathogens on the cellular scale :> | Apr 14 06:33 |
| cubezzz | my desktop hasn't really changed much in the last 10 years | Apr 14 06:47 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/old-desktop-2005.png | Apr 14 06:47 |
| msb_ | MinceR: But those pathogens had to *evolve* their methods of attack -- very slow. Nanomachines, with nanocomputers, could simulate and evaluate attacks zillions of times faster. The poor blade of grass wouldn't have a chance without a layer of protective nanomachnes. | Apr 14 06:48 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/desktop-2014.png | Apr 14 06:49 |
| MinceR | msb_: not necessarily a layer -- the nanomachines could also be inside the blade of grass | Apr 14 06:50 |
| msb_ | And inside every food crop. Those diamond-based machines would make 'em really crunchy! | Apr 14 06:51 |
| MinceR | they could be ordered to come out | Apr 14 06:51 |
| msb_ | "Sorry, we like it here." | Apr 14 06:52 |
| MinceR | then send in the killer nanomachines | Apr 14 06:52 |
| MinceR | also, i'm not sure how much we'd need food crops once we're infused with nanomachines and quite possibly not human anymore :> | Apr 14 06:52 |
| msb_ | I believe STTOS dealt with that situation: "EXISTENCE!... SURVIVAL... must cancel out... programming! " | Apr 14 06:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 14 06:54 |
| msb_ | If only Ruk had squeezed Kirk a little harder... | Apr 14 06:54 |
| cubezzz | mind transfer | Apr 14 06:56 |
| cubezzz | some philosophical implications there | Apr 14 06:57 |
| msb_ | STTOS and Kirk trashed every single instance of advanced technology they could find, including immortality. | Apr 14 06:57 |
| cubezzz | ok, now we will upload your mind into windows 35 | Apr 14 06:57 |
| cubezzz | uhhh, no thanks :) | Apr 14 06:57 |
| cubezzz | he didn't trash Trelane's parents | Apr 14 06:58 |
| cubezzz | not sure if that counts as tech though | Apr 14 06:58 |
| msb_ | Anyhow What Are Little Girls Made Of? was self-contradictory. Kirk's justification for destroying the bot-creation machinery was that the resulting ghost-in-the-shell had no emotions. But the "native" bots did. It could have been fixed. But no immortality for us! | Apr 14 07:01 |
| cubezzz | the Thasians were also quite advanced | Apr 14 07:01 |
| cubezzz | lots of uber-aliens in TOS | Apr 14 07:02 |
| msb_ | When Spock got happy in another ep, Kirk made some sound generator that ruined it. What a schmuck! | Apr 14 07:02 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 14 07:02 |
| cubezzz | another thing we don't really have that TOS did: computers you can talk to | Apr 14 07:03 |
| msb_ | *Working* | Apr 14 07:03 |
| MinceR | we can talk to any computer | Apr 14 07:07 |
| MinceR | not many of them listen, though :> | Apr 14 07:07 |
| cubezzz | the last big step forward was www | Apr 14 07:08 |
| msb_ | WWW/Linux/FOSS is the nervous system of the evolving World Community | Apr 14 07:19 |
| MinceR | what about IRC? :> | Apr 14 07:19 |
| msb_ | Dat's good too! | Apr 14 07:19 |
| cubezzz | IRC predates WWW :) | Apr 14 07:20 |
| cubezzz | of course Microsoft had to try and muck things up with MSNP | Apr 14 07:21 |
| MinceR | and IRCX | Apr 14 07:22 |
| msb_ | With WWW/Linux/FOSS, Cannabis, and Partnership/Eisler/Korten sociology, we can have a "soft landing" from the current fascist control system. Everybody just relax, give the fascist rulers tens of millions of dollars each if they promise not to make any more trouble.. | Apr 14 07:23 |
| cubezzz | I've found there | Apr 14 07:25 |
| cubezzz | 's another force in software beyond Embrace, Extend, Entinguish | Apr 14 07:25 |
| msb_ | Psychopaths can only survive inside a cloud of lying propaganda that hides them. But with the Web, they are entirely exposed. | Apr 14 07:25 |
| msb_ | Evolve! | Apr 14 07:26 |
| cubezzz | there's also abandonment and resurrection | Apr 14 07:26 |
| msb_ | Resurrection (1980) with Ellen Burstyn is a great movie! *Not* xtian propaganda. | Apr 14 07:27 |
| cubezzz | s/eh/ex/ | Apr 14 07:27 |
| cubezzz | s/en/ex/ :-P | Apr 14 07:27 |
| MinceR | s/En/Ex/ :> | Apr 14 07:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines http://t.co/5vV90nvSzx Server 1.14.6 & | Apr 14 07:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5vV90nvSzx Server 1.15.1 Released | Apr 14 07:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0owJKCPPWT | Apr 14 07:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cool and flexible: The Linux alternative | Apr 14 07:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/pcOUYdPpMZ | Apr 14 07:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org | xorg | Apr 14 07:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | X.Org Server 1.14.6 & X.Org Server 1.15.1 Released | Tux Machines | Apr 14 08:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cool and flexible: The Linux alternative | Tux Machines | Apr 14 08:00 | |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/04/windows-phone-8-1-review-a-magnificent-smartphone-platform/ | Apr 14 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Windows Phone 8.1 review: a magnificent smartphone platform | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h2sb9 ] | Apr 14 08:44 | |
| *cubezzz gags | Apr 14 08:45 | |
| Sosumi | but no mention of how much data the phone gathers from the user | Apr 14 08:45 |
| Sosumi | and transmits to M$ | Apr 14 08:45 |
| cubezzz | I'm having a devil of a time with this lit file :-/ | Apr 14 08:46 |
| msb_ | There's a copy of Resurrection (1980) in Usenet. Maybe the best movie ever made! | Apr 14 08:46 |
| msb_ | Or pay $20 to amazon for a disk. | Apr 14 08:47 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: What's a lit file? | Apr 14 08:47 |
| cubezzz | msb_, it's a file from Hell :) | Apr 14 08:47 |
| cubezzz | a type of ebook, microsoft only | Apr 14 08:47 |
| msb_ | Type of e-book? | Apr 14 08:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines With Death of Windows XP, Now Is Perfect Time | Apr 14 08:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to Switch to Linux http://t.co/sqHYr06VPH | Apr 14 08:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h2sc1 | Apr 14 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | With Death of Windows XP, Now Is Perfect Time to Switch to Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 14 08:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @BigDickStallman @tuxmachines When will you peons learn? It's | Apr 14 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | called GNU/Linux, NOT Linux. | Apr 14 08:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h2sc2 | Apr 14 08:48 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @methadonna retweeted @BigDickStallman: '@tuxmachines When will you peons learn? It's called...' | Apr 14 08:48 | |
| MinceR | he has a point | Apr 14 08:49 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: Never thought I'd say this, but apparently there's a "clit" program for that. | Apr 14 08:50 |
| msb_ | google for linux "lit file" | Apr 14 08:50 |
| cubezzz | doesn't compile unfortunately | Apr 14 08:52 |
| msb_ | Probably just needs a little massaging. | Apr 14 08:54 |
| msb_ | It's just text-to-text, after all. | Apr 14 08:54 |
| cubezzz | it's encrypted | Apr 14 08:55 |
| msb_ | Ick! | Apr 14 08:55 |
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| msb_ | The lit file is encrypted? | Apr 14 08:56 |
| cubezzz | yes | Apr 14 08:56 |
| msb_ | Have to go to Redmond and beat it out of them! | Apr 14 08:56 |
| msb_ | What's the book? | Apr 14 08:56 |
| cubezzz | just a startrek book, nothing important :) | Apr 14 08:56 |
| cubezzz | hmmm, it needs libtommath.a for some reason | Apr 14 08:58 |
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| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/russian_market/status/455670226278158336 | Apr 14 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@russian_market: Oops. The acting PM of Ukraine Yatsenyuk meets the Swiss President in Kiev by Danish flag. - Time to grow up, kids! http://t.co/hdk1fh2SwU | Apr 14 09:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@russian_market: Oops. The acting PM of Ukraine Yatsenyuk meets the Swiss President in Kiev by Danish flag. - Time to grow up, kids! http://t.co/hdk1fh2SwU | Apr 14 09:31 | |
| Sosumi | lol | Apr 14 09:31 |
| Sosumi | now there's a case to yell | Apr 14 09:32 |
| Sosumi | FALSE FLAG! | Apr 14 09:32 |
| MinceR | "Definite proof that people who captured Slavyansk police department aren't russians:" | Apr 14 09:35 |
| MinceR | http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=217237&d=1397477131 | Apr 14 09:35 |
| Sosumi | are they emptying vodka bottles into the ground? | Apr 14 09:36 |
| MinceR | that's what it looks like | Apr 14 09:38 |
| Sosumi | what a crime | Apr 14 09:38 |
| MinceR | but then again, it could be just about any clear liquid | Apr 14 09:38 |
| Sosumi | well even if it was water | Apr 14 09:38 |
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| DaemonFC | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/04/13/1454215/the-gnome-foundation-is-running-out-of-money | Apr 14 10:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | The GNOME Foundation Is Running Out of Money - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/h2t9q ] | Apr 14 10:19 | |
| DaemonFC | The mail truck is here. | Apr 14 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | As soon as I get that modem, I can call Comcast and tell them to take theirs off of my account. :) | Apr 14 10:32 |
| Sosumi | in soviet russia, the modem gets you | Apr 14 10:49 |
| MinceR | In Soviet Russia, browser keeps tabs on YOU!! | Apr 14 10:49 |
| MinceR | In capitalism, man exploits man. In socialism, it's the other way around. | Apr 14 10:50 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 14 10:50 |
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| DaemonFC | Amazon sent me a wifi range extender instead of my cable modem. | Apr 14 11:40 |
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| DaemonFC | I called to complain, and they sent me a return label and said that they'd get me my modem shipped out by UPS overnight. | Apr 14 11:41 |
| Sosumi | and I thinking they'd deliver it by the hand of a real amazon | Apr 14 11:43 |
| Sosumi | silly me for thinking such thing... | Apr 14 11:44 |
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| abeNd-org | yea, only problem with those amazon goddesses is if you don't pass their tests, they kill you on the spot | Apr 14 12:06 |
| DaemonFC | I reviewed my Chromebook. | Apr 14 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | and Chrome OS | Apr 14 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | Sosumi: It pisses me off. It's either a mispick or they have the wrong item at the picking location. | Apr 14 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | If I get another wifi range extender tomorrow, I'm going to be fuming. | Apr 14 12:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Arrives on April | Apr 14 12:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 17, Three Features to Look Forward to | Apr 14 12:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/WXtV7C0PEU | Apr 14 12:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h2vpw | Apr 14 12:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Arrives on April 17, Three Features to Look Forward to | Tux Machines | Apr 14 12:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Then there's Ubuntu 14.04 Long Term Support Klingon Edition. | Apr 14 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | The Trusty Targ. | Apr 14 13:02 |
| MinceR | http://topekasnews.com/oklahoma-protesters-threaten-secdee-union-neil-degrasse-tysons-cosmos-cancelled/ | Apr 14 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-topekasnews.com | Oklahoma Protesters Threaten to "Secdee" From Union if Neil DeGrasse Tyson's Cosmos is not Cancelled - Topekas News | Apr 14 13:16 | |
| MinceR | i say let them Secdee. | Apr 14 13:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Did the GNOME Foundation spend too much money | Apr 14 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on women’s outreach? http://t.co/KDCFluufb1 | Apr 14 13:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Did the GNOME Foundation spend too much money on women’s outreach? | Tux Machines | Apr 14 13:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 21 Gets Proposals For Many More Features | Apr 14 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/iyXNobewrD | Apr 14 13:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 21 Gets Proposals For Many More Features | Tux Machines | Apr 14 13:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ozon OS Will Be One of the Most Beautiful Linux | Apr 14 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Distros http://t.co/6qDrQ7h1mV | Apr 14 13:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ozon OS Will Be One of the Most Beautiful Linux Distros | Tux Machines | Apr 14 13:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.2 Released With System Settings | Apr 14 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Improvements, HiDPI support And More | Apr 14 13:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/m0BzW1FVVc | Apr 14 13:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.2 Released With System Settings Improvements, HiDPI support And More | Tux Machines | Apr 14 13:21 | |
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| Sosumi | http://semiaccurate.com/2014/04/10/samsung-breaks-intel-xeon-ndas-press-release/ | Apr 14 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-semiaccurate.com | Samsung breaks Intel Xeon NDAs in a press release - SemiAccurate [ http://ur1.ca/h2w62 ] | Apr 14 14:15 | |
| Sosumi | justifying their ramp up for ddr4 ram | Apr 14 14:16 |
| Sosumi | tom ryan of semmiacurate | Apr 14 14:21 |
| Sosumi | This brings me to another point that I’d like to make about clutter. Windows 8 started out with a very minimalist UI that has with every update become not only more like its predecessors but also more cluttered with additional ways to complete the same basic task. Do users really need this many ways to get to the same apps and settings? More to the point though, with the impending return of the start menu we’ll have yet another way to a | Apr 14 14:21 |
| Sosumi | ccess the same apps and settings. When will users be satisfied; and more importantly when will Microsoft quit giving its users a half-dozen ways to reinvent the wheel? | Apr 14 14:21 |
| Sosumi | all true | Apr 14 14:21 |
| cubezzz | I'm still waiting for OEMs to break away from M$ | Apr 14 14:30 |
| MinceR | so am i | Apr 14 14:31 |
| cubezzz | Be was in discussions with Dell, Compaq, Micron and Hitachi | Apr 14 14:37 |
| cubezzz | only Hitachi actually shipped computers with BeOS | Apr 14 14:37 |
| cubezzz | and the story is even sadder than that | Apr 14 14:38 |
| cubezzz | Hitachi made changes to the boot loader rendering BeOS invisible to the consumer before they shipped | Apr 14 14:38 |
| cubezzz | it was the Flora Prius | Apr 14 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | I love my Chromebook. | Apr 14 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think I'm going to be buying another tablet. | Apr 14 14:39 |
| cubezzz | so it was Win98 and invisible BeOS | Apr 14 14:39 |
| DaemonFC | BeOS wasn't terribly well designed. | Apr 14 14:40 |
| MinceR | probably still a lot better designed than any m$ produc | Apr 14 14:40 |
| MinceR | t | Apr 14 14:40 |
| MinceR | it doesn't take much | Apr 14 14:40 |
| cubezzz | there's still Haiku | Apr 14 14:41 |
| cubezzz | but the point kind of was... an OEM tried to stand up to the big M and they got "visited" | Apr 14 14:41 |
| cubezzz | then the boot loader was changed | Apr 14 14:41 |
| cubezzz | this was around 1998-1999 | Apr 14 14:43 |
| cubezzz | for FREE mind you | Apr 14 14:43 |
| cubezzz | Be Corp was offering BeOS for free to OEMs | Apr 14 14:43 |
| cubezzz | seems to me the DOJ didn't kick the right butts | Apr 14 14:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines DPL election is over, Lucas Nussbaum re-elected | Apr 14 14:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Acm9zAdJI3 | Apr 14 14:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GCC 4.9 Compiler Optimization Benchmarks For | Apr 14 14:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Faster Binaries http://t.co/p96Kw6tBWs | Apr 14 14:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DPL election is over, Lucas Nussbaum re-elected | Tux Machines | Apr 14 14:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC 4.9 Compiler Optimization Benchmarks For Faster Binaries | Tux Machines | Apr 14 14:57 | |
| DaemonFC | I talked to my former landlord. | Apr 14 14:57 |
| DaemonFC | He said that he thinks that with my credit, I could get a mortgage at 3%. | Apr 14 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm tired of renting and having a landlord telling me who I can have over at my house, and nosy neighbors that report you if you have a guest over for more than 4 days.... | Apr 14 14:58 |
| amarsh04 | I've just had a bit of a back and forth on the ffmpeg bug tracker - there are problems compiling it under gcc-4.9.0 RC1 | Apr 14 14:59 |
| amarsh04 | as in, code compiles, but doesn't run properly | Apr 14 15:00 |
| amarsh04 | meanwhile the linux kernel has compiled and run ok under development releases of gcc-4.9 for quite a while | Apr 14 15:01 |
| cubezzz | this sums things up quite well: | Apr 14 15:02 |
| cubezzz | http://www.birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/ | Apr 14 15:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.birdhouse.org | He Who Controls the Bootloader [ http://ur1.ca/gdhk ] | Apr 14 15:02 | |
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| cubezzz | Sosumi, ha I just scrolled back | Apr 14 15:21 |
| cubezzz | no, I've never owned or even operated a cell phone of any kind | Apr 14 15:21 |
| cubezzz | but if I did it would be a dynatac :) | Apr 14 15:22 |
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| Sosumi | buuuuuuuu | Apr 14 15:28 |
| Sosumi | you should have a nokia 8110 instead | Apr 14 15:29 |
| Sosumi | and a pair of shades | Apr 14 15:29 |
| Sosumi | because you are that kewl | Apr 14 15:29 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 14 15:29 |
| cubezzz | I was the first one out of the Matrix :) | Apr 14 15:29 |
| cubezzz | actually it feels more like I'm older than the matrix | Apr 14 15:32 |
| Sosumi | maybe the matrix is all in your head | Apr 14 15:32 |
| Sosumi | and "we" are nothing but mere pawns at the mercy of you | Apr 14 15:33 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 14 15:33 |
| MinceR | lol nokia | Apr 14 15:34 |
| Sosumi | http://fails.net/fails/nokia-tyres.jpg | Apr 14 15:36 |
| cubezzz | minimalism, not solipsism :) | Apr 14 15:42 |
| MinceR | that's nokian now | Apr 14 15:43 |
| MinceR | and has been for a long time | Apr 14 15:44 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Apr 14 15:45 |
| Sosumi | never seen nokia tyres on sale here | Apr 14 15:45 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 14 15:45 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Apr 14 15:46 |
| Sosumi | are are your tyres treating you? | Apr 14 15:46 |
| Sosumi | *how | Apr 14 15:46 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-cleaner.jpg | Apr 14 15:48 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 14 15:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines UK's IT security agency: Communities are key | Apr 14 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | for standards http://t.co/ZJU3uRjxf5 | Apr 14 15:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.2 http://t.co/yW69Ic31K3 | Apr 14 15:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines It Doesn't Look Like AMD Mantle Is Coming To | Apr 14 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux, SteamOS http://t.co/JwvriQAWLQ | Apr 14 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h2wz6 | Apr 14 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to run XP on Linux Mint with Oracle | Apr 14 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | VirtualBox http://t.co/DEGoWZJfOe | Apr 14 15:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced | Apr 14 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Touch Version So Far | Apr 14 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/umh6JZRCTO | Apr 14 15:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Maxwell GPUs Light Up On | Apr 14 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux 3.15 http://t.co/3wuzmlSceQ | Apr 14 15:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | UK's IT security agency: Communities are key for standards | Tux Machines | Apr 14 15:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) to Reach End of | Apr 14 15:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Life by the End of April http://t.co/eB3H9v65YR | Apr 14 15:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.2 | Tux Machines | Apr 14 15:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It Doesn't Look Like AMD Mantle Is Coming To Linux, SteamOS | Tux Machines | Apr 14 15:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to run XP on Linux Mint with Oracle VirtualBox | Tux Machines | Apr 14 15:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced Ubuntu Touch Version So Far | Tux Machines | Apr 14 15:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Maxwell GPUs Light Up On Linux 3.15 | Tux Machines | Apr 14 15:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) to Reach End of Life by the End of April | Tux Machines | Apr 14 15:52 | |
| roy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrH_zkWGIHM&feature=youtu.be4 | Apr 14 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Baby Orangutan Rickina! - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h2wzq ] | Apr 14 15:54 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qt4 Music Player `YaRock` 0.9.66 Released With | Apr 14 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Internet Radio Stream Search, More | Apr 14 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ayrrx8xRT3 | Apr 14 15:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h2x0y | Apr 14 15:59 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RanjibDey retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced Ubuntu...' | Apr 14 15:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt4 Music Player `YaRock` 0.9.66 Released With Internet Radio Stream Search, More | Tux Machines | Apr 14 15:59 | |
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| roy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhnnYv6Cx5k4 | Apr 14 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Sinkhole swallows 3 cars in Chicago - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h2x84 ] | Apr 14 16:33 | |
| roy_ | US in 2013 | Apr 14 16:33 |
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| MinceR | gn | Apr 14 17:31 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @RedditUbuntu favourited 'Canonical Releases the Most Stable and Advanced Ubuntu...' | Apr 14 17:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat announces OpenShift Marketplace | Apr 14 17:51 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Jrj0qcylly | Apr 14 17:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/1rRf5gUlb6 | Apr 14 17:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/OJJBqH3ZIK | Apr 14 17:51 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/H8P7BZCb0A | Apr 14 17:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat announces OpenShift Marketplace | Tux Machines | Apr 14 17:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Apr 14 17:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 14 17:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 14 17:52 | |
| msb_ | cubezzz: The Matrix is very real and has been around for many centuries. Way before Bernays. JCI religion is a big part of it. But you were among those who awakened in the 20th Century. When were you born? | Apr 14 18:01 |
| msb_ | Early enough to buy a VIC-20! | Apr 14 18:03 |
| msb_ | And an Amiga. http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/Amiga.jpg | Apr 14 18:05 |
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| cubezzz | 1965 | Apr 14 18:34 |
| cubezzz | the amiga and the vic-20 still work | Apr 14 18:35 |
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| graham | hey | Apr 14 18:47 |
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| Guest90063 | anyone know how to contact the Techrights.org team? | Apr 14 18:47 |
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| DaemonFC | Spent all day helping the bf fill out job applications. | Apr 14 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | He's had a couple of calls for interviews already. | Apr 14 21:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/eoD739YU6j | Apr 14 22:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Apr 14 22:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Cinnamon 2.2 out not, ready for Linux Mint 17 | Apr 15 02:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cinnamon 2.2 out not, ready for Linux Mint 17 | Tux Machines | Apr 15 02:22 | |
| MinceR | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cloud-to-butt-plus/apmlngnhgbnjpajelfkmabhkfapgnoai?hl=en | Apr 15 02:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chrome.google.com | Chrome Web Store - Cloud To Butt Plus [ http://ur1.ca/h31h4 ] | Apr 15 02:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New MakuluLinux Released and Reviewed | Apr 15 04:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/lRf0aXO2Hc | Apr 15 04:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux and the Post-XP Cry for Help | Apr 15 04:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New MakuluLinux Released and Reviewed | Tux Machines | Apr 15 04:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android TV box to run KitKat on quad-core | Apr 15 04:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cortex-A17 http://t.co/ub2TEup0zv | Apr 15 04:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and the Post-XP Cry for Help | Tux Machines | Apr 15 04:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android TV box to run KitKat on quad-core Cortex-A17 | Tux Machines | Apr 15 04:15 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Apr 15 04:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Hi! Did you watch that video of David Korten? | Apr 15 07:34 |
| MinceR | not yet | Apr 15 07:34 |
| msb_ | It's all about changing the story, the context, in your mind through which you see things. | Apr 15 07:36 |
| msb_ | MinceR: He's not saying people should give up their private propitty. But we should have sharing and empathy as primary values shaping our economic system so that everyone can thrive, not just those at the top and the (ever-shrinking now) middle. | Apr 15 07:39 |
| msb_ | MinceR: There's a deep, fundamental difference between families having their own home, cars, etc., and Monsanto and Microsoft having so much money that they can hurt people and buy the government, and no one can stop them. | Apr 15 07:41 |
| MinceR | i think the main problem there is that m$ is incentivized to do harm | Apr 15 07:42 |
| MinceR | and not punished | Apr 15 07:42 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Conservatives and Libertarians always point us toward families, so we conclude that, of course they should have their private property. But they point us away from the ultra-wealthy and corporations that harm people for profit with their private property. | Apr 15 07:43 |
| MinceR | what has liberalism have to do with families? | Apr 15 07:44 |
| msb_ | Psychopaths can always find ways to make a profit by harming people. Reality incentivizes them. | Apr 15 07:44 |
| msb_ | Liberalism says (or at least should say) that the economic system should help families to thrive, instead of taking 99% of the wealth and giving it to the 1% richest people, which is what we have now. | Apr 15 07:46 |
| msb_ | MinceR: If rich people were satisfied when they had enough wealth to live, or even 10 or 100 times the amount they need to live, everything would be fine, because they'd leave the rest for the non-rich. | Apr 15 07:50 |
| msb_ | MinceR: But they're never satisfied. A pigeon in a Skinner-box keeps pecking the switch until the cage fills up with food and it suffocates. But the wealthy under capitalism keep grabbing more and more until the non-wealthy 99% starve and lose their homes. | Apr 15 07:52 |
| MinceR | punishment and incapacitation disincentivizes psychopaths. | Apr 15 07:53 |
| msb_ | So how would you punish and incapacitate corporate owners who keep most of the profits for themselves instead of paying most of it to their workers as wages? | Apr 15 07:54 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Even though the corporate owners say that the profits belong to them as "private property" because they own the corporations. | Apr 15 07:56 |
| msb_ | MinceR: That's how the "private propery" concept causes harm when it's extended to the realm of great wealth. | Apr 15 07:57 |
| MinceR | that's when the corporate veil needs to be pierced. | Apr 15 08:01 |
| cubezzz | well one way to share the wealth is to buy shares | Apr 15 08:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Slick Ubuntu Mobile OS previewed again, but | Apr 15 08:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | we’re still waiting for a release date | Apr 15 08:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/aEvq4UR4fL | Apr 15 08:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h35iz | Apr 15 08:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS LXDE 2014.04 Is a Light and Poweful | Apr 15 08:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Distribution http://t.co/sQRpkr7mQ0 | Apr 15 08:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h35j0 | Apr 15 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slick Ubuntu Mobile OS previewed again, but we’re still waiting for a release date | Tux Machines | Apr 15 08:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS LXDE 2014.04 Is a Light and Poweful Linux Distribution | Tux Machines | Apr 15 08:22 | |
| cubezzz | e.g. in 2003 I bought some red hat shares, I shared in the wealth of the company | Apr 15 08:22 |
| cubezzz | of course you need some money to get started | Apr 15 08:24 |
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| msb_ | MinceR: But once the corporate veil is pierced, what's the next step? If the main crime being committed by corporate owners is paying the workers too little and keeping too much for themselves, how do you fix that within the current rules/framework of capitalism? | Apr 15 08:32 |
| MinceR | that doesn't seem to be the main crime in the case you quoted | Apr 15 08:32 |
| MinceR | also, i see no reason why workers should be stuck with microsoft, other than microsoft making it difficult or impossible for competitors to exist and operate | Apr 15 08:33 |
| msb_ | That's the main crime in general! | Apr 15 08:33 |
| msb_ | That's why 1% of the population has 99% of the wealth, and the other 99% of the people have to make do on a total of 1%. | Apr 15 08:34 |
| msb_ | That's a wealth ratio of 10,000 to 1 ! | Apr 15 08:38 |
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| cubezzz | this is old but still interesting: | Apr 15 08:58 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/storming-castle-redmond.jpg | Apr 15 08:58 |
| cubezzz | I declare victory over Encarta :) | Apr 15 09:00 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 15 09:02 |
| cubezzz | some stats say that IE is less than 25% now, a huge change | Apr 15 09:03 |
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| MinceR | indeed | Apr 15 09:13 |
| msb_ | Here's a picture of an annoyed penguin: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/kmfms-final.jpg | Apr 15 09:16 |
| MinceR | KMFMS is a nice site | Apr 15 09:16 |
| msb_ | Yes, that bird is slightly ticked-off. | Apr 15 09:19 |
| msb_ | KMFMS stands for Kein Mitleid Für MicroSoft. It's a German acronym meaning "no pity for Microsoft." | Apr 15 09:22 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 15 09:23 |
| msb_ | From their FAQ. | Apr 15 09:24 |
| MinceR | i've read it | Apr 15 09:24 |
| msb_ | Here's another PO'ed penguin: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/Linux_Wallpaper_Good_evening_Mr_Gates_Ill_Be_Your_Server_01.jpg | Apr 15 09:30 |
| msb_ | Does that look too dark too anyone else? I had to boost my gamma a bit to see the darker parts. | Apr 15 09:32 |
| msb_ | too-->to | Apr 15 09:32 |
| msb_ | e.g., his face | Apr 15 09:33 |
| MinceR | looks fine here | Apr 15 09:33 |
| cubezzz | haha | Apr 15 09:36 |
| cubezzz | there should be a tooth flying out of his mouth to complete the effect | Apr 15 09:36 |
| cubezzz | yeah no kidding no pity | Apr 15 09:38 |
| cubezzz | no pity for stealing PDP-10 computer time | Apr 15 09:38 |
| msb_ | I like this one a little better: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/Linux_Wallpaper_Good_evening_Mr_Gates_Ill_Be_Your_Server_01G2A.jpg | Apr 15 09:42 |
| cubezzz | you lose contrast by boosting the gamma too much | Apr 15 09:43 |
| msb_ | My settings are such that the KMFMS pic looks fine, but this one needs gamma=2 | Apr 15 09:44 |
| msb_ | No wonder people need $2000 photometry setups to get this right. | Apr 15 09:45 |
| cubezzz | folks are way too pedestrian in their choices of operating systems | Apr 15 09:46 |
| cubezzz | back in the 80s we really did have more choices | Apr 15 09:46 |
| cubezzz | there was Apple, Atari, Commodore, and Tandy (probably other ones I've forgotten) | Apr 15 09:46 |
| msb_ | Back then most computer users were knowledgeable about computers. Now everybody has one, and very few know much about them. | Apr 15 09:47 |
| msb_ | Those who do use Linux, of course. | Apr 15 09:48 |
| msb_ | Anyhow, I'm using the settings that make most movies look right, and it needs gamma 2 on the server pic. | Apr 15 09:49 |
| cubezzz | this is a list of what I actually use: | Apr 15 09:51 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.or/other/os-usage-list.txt | Apr 15 09:51 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/os-usage-list.txt | Apr 15 09:51 |
| msb_ | OMG is that the Brain From Planet AROS? | Apr 15 09:52 |
| MinceR | http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aEwQmqK_460sa.gif | Apr 15 09:52 |
| cubezzz | haha | Apr 15 09:54 |
| cubezzz | that was Arous, not Aros :) | Apr 15 09:55 |
| cubezzz | AROS is an open source version of AmigaDos 3.1 | Apr 15 09:55 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Wow, that is one seriously weird gif file! | Apr 15 10:06 |
| msb_ | I wanted to single-step it. mplayer wouldn't play it (no surprise). I fed it to xv, which gave about 400 error messages and wouldn't quit! When I deleted each one it put up another, and when I switched to another desktop it came back and put the error message under the mouse pointer. I wanted to type killall xv but I couldn't. Eventually it ran down and quit. Gwenview (and firefox) display it, but I don't know how to make either one pause. | Apr 15 10:09 |
| msb_ | On another topic, I hope everyone has seen the movie Antitrust (2001). If not, there's a good copy of it in that naughty place right now. | Apr 15 10:12 |
| cubezzz | the gimp might be able to single step an animated gif | Apr 15 10:12 |
| MinceR | i just watched it in firefox :> | Apr 15 10:15 |
| msb_ | Sure, it plays fine in firefox. A great work of art! but it goes by too fast to see some of the details. | Apr 15 10:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Or do you mean Antitrust? | Apr 15 10:16 |
| MinceR | the gif | Apr 15 10:17 |
| MinceR | i did have to go through a few cycles to see some of the details, though | Apr 15 10:17 |
| msb_ | Pretty wild! | Apr 15 10:19 |
| DaemonFC | 2 secs · | Apr 15 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | Someone told me something that I found to be disturbing a couple of days ago. | Apr 15 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | The school systems in Indiana are not just wasting taxpayer dollars on Crapple iBads anymore. They're forcing parents, even poor ones, to pay full price for these malicious, proprietary, user-subjugating devices. | Apr 15 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | To add insult to injury, the schools *could* buy Chromebooks for $150 each that do everything the iBad can and more, which shows how wasteful their buying practices are. | Apr 15 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | Crapple takes the money from the government contracts, and uses some of it to turn around and buy our elections, making sure that politicians force parents and taxpayers to buy more Crapple iCrap later on. | Apr 15 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | 2 secs · | Apr 15 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | Then, while all this expensive Crapple iCrap is being "procured", I got a letter in the mail the other day from Dan Leonard, telling us how frugal the Indiana Politburo Republicans are being with our money. | Apr 15 10:33 |
| DaemonFC | There's nothing like fascism that comes back and pisses on you while it's telling you that it's raining. | Apr 15 10:33 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 15 10:34 |
| msb_ | The IPud doesn't have a real keyboard, so it's pretty tedious to *originate* content. Tablets are designed for consumption of content, and users should keep their mouths shut. | Apr 15 10:42 |
| msb_ | When tablets become fully voice-operated, users will be called Eloi. | Apr 15 10:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 15 10:47 |
| MinceR | there's some convergence between tablet computers and laptops | Apr 15 10:47 |
| msb_ | And you know what that makes us... | Apr 15 10:47 |
| msb_ | We don't *have* to eat them, though. Yuck. | Apr 15 10:47 |
| cubezzz | anyone remember these: | Apr 15 10:49 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/wrist-terminal.jpg | Apr 15 10:49 |
| msb_ | It needs a real keyboard, and a good-sized screen. If it has some extras from tablets too, that | Apr 15 10:49 |
| msb_ | 's fine. | Apr 15 10:49 |
| msb_ | I remember the Dick Tracy wrist radio from the funnies. | Apr 15 10:50 |
| msb_ | cubezzz: what did those things actually do? | Apr 15 10:51 |
| cubezzz | msb_, it can interface with serial devices | Apr 15 10:52 |
| cubezzz | e.g. Commodore 64, Apple II, Tandy Color Computer, etc | Apr 15 10:53 |
| msb_ | Did it have a DB-25 to nano-phone-plug adapter? | Apr 15 10:54 |
| msb_ | Do you have one? | Apr 15 10:55 |
| cubezzz | alas, no | Apr 15 10:55 |
| cubezzz | this will explain it a bit more: | Apr 15 10:55 |
| msb_ | Darn, you could port Linux to it. | Apr 15 10:55 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/wrist-terminal-ad.jpg | Apr 15 10:55 |
| cubezzz | pretty neat for 1984 | Apr 15 10:57 |
| cubezzz | I didn't even know about those back then | Apr 15 10:58 |
| msb_ | THat wasn't from Mad Magazine? | Apr 15 10:58 |
| cubezzz | Home Computing Weekly | Apr 15 10:58 |
| msb_ | Maybe our planet was bombarded by a swarm of Strange Particles. But when? | Apr 15 11:00 |
| msb_ | Things have always been pretty strange here. | Apr 15 11:01 |
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| cubezzz | original price: £50 | Apr 15 11:02 |
| cubezzz | msb_, it definitely existed | Apr 15 11:03 |
| msb_ | I want a wrist Turing Machine! | Apr 15 11:04 |
| cubezzz | there's the Pebble... | Apr 15 11:04 |
| cubezzz | lots of smartwatches nowadays | Apr 15 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | So, Amazon is making a phone now? | Apr 15 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | Fire Phone? | Apr 15 11:05 |
| cubezzz | Actually the Pebble was a kickstarter project that did very well | Apr 15 11:06 |
| msb_ | Who here has seen Ghost In The Shell? | Apr 15 11:07 |
| msb_ | Now showing Sunday mornings on the Cartoon Network. | Apr 15 11:08 |
| msb_ | Wow, there's a new series GITS Arise. | Apr 15 11:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines TrueCrypt audit finds “no evidence of | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | backdoors” or malicious code | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gB79W7J4Tj | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36lo | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Canonical Starts Talking About Convergence and | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu 14.10 Features http://t.co/K52cP4kIci | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36lp | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Dell unloads slew of datacenter upgrades, teams | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Red Hat on OpenStack | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/uMNmS6HGCl | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36lq | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BitTorrent Client FrostWire 5.7.2 Finally | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings uTP Support http://t.co/2SoDfbv7fo | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36lr | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Results Of Optimizing Radeon's VRAM | Apr 15 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Behavior http://t.co/q6wlpdDO0r | Apr 15 11:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TrueCrypt audit finds “no evidence of backdoors” or malicious code | Tux Machines | Apr 15 11:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Starts Talking About Convergence and Ubuntu 14.10 Features | Tux Machines | Apr 15 11:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dell unloads slew of datacenter upgrades, teams with Red Hat on OpenStack | Tux Machines | Apr 15 11:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BitTorrent Client FrostWire 5.7.2 Finally Brings uTP Support | Tux Machines | Apr 15 11:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Results Of Optimizing Radeon's VRAM Behavior | Tux Machines | Apr 15 11:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samba 4.0.17 Launches with Multiple Fixes | Apr 15 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bNClju912k | Apr 15 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36ml | Apr 15 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samba 4.0.17 Launches with Multiple Fixes | Tux Machines | Apr 15 11:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Efl and Elementary 1.9.3 and Enlightenment | Apr 15 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 0.18.7 release http://t.co/cLfhiESQFh | Apr 15 11:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h36mq | Apr 15 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Efl and Elementary 1.9.3 and Enlightenment 0.18.7 release | Tux Machines | Apr 15 11:43 | |
| gde33 | http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/801568/?autoplay=true | Apr 15 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebaumsworld.com | Idiocracy - Video [ http://ur1.ca/h36s7 ] | Apr 15 12:06 | |
| cubezzz | another choice in FOSS operating systems: | Apr 15 12:55 |
| cubezzz | http://freertos.org | Apr 15 12:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freertos.org | FreeRTOS - Market leading RTOS (Real Time Operating System) for embedded systems with Internet of Things extensions | Apr 15 12:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BitTorrent Client FrostWire 5.7.2 Finally | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Brings uTP Support http://t.co/2SoDfbv7fo | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @_Goblin | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fg | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNU/Linux in India http://t.co/fQ15y51ff6 | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fh | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No, the iPhone 6 is not going to demolish | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android http://t.co/qRqpI2yg7A | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fi | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Live from the Summit: All hands on cloud with | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Red Hat CEO http://t.co/gUxHfiiIKd | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fj | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines More evidence that the Linux wars have moved to | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | OpenStack http://t.co/xoJ5ynD2GF | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h37fk | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 21 To Evaluate Remote Journal Logging, | Apr 15 13:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 64-bit ARM Emulation http://t.co/9Yey6uTrRb | Apr 15 13:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux in India | Tux Machines | Apr 15 13:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | No, the iPhone 6 is not going to demolish Android | Tux Machines | Apr 15 13:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Live from the Summit: All hands on cloud with Red Hat CEO | Tux Machines | Apr 15 13:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | More evidence that the Linux wars have moved to OpenStack | Tux Machines | Apr 15 13:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 21 To Evaluate Remote Journal Logging, 64-bit ARM Emulation | Tux Machines | Apr 15 13:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2014.04 Officially Released, Is Based | Apr 15 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on KDE 4.12.3 and Linux Kernel 3.12.16 | Apr 15 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/jGRRZmjKOP | Apr 15 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h383p | Apr 15 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Releases An AutoFDO Converter For Perf | Apr 15 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | In LLVM http://t.co/3K4KKMEb0A | Apr 15 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h383q | Apr 15 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux is about to take over the desktop but not | Apr 15 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | like you think it will http://t.co/37aiNlpNDu | Apr 15 15:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h383r | Apr 15 15:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS 2014.04 Officially Released, Is Based on KDE 4.12.3 and Linux Kernel 3.12.16 | Tux Machines | Apr 15 15:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Releases An AutoFDO Converter For Perf In LLVM | Tux Machines | Apr 15 15:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux is about to take over the desktop but not like you think it will | Tux Machines | Apr 15 15:45 | |
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| cubezzz | I think some of the chromebooks come with seabios now | Apr 15 16:13 |
| cubezzz | that could mean that the chromebook is pretty close to 100% FOSS | Apr 15 16:15 |
| cubezzz | folks are installing Arch Linux on the Acer C720 | Apr 15 16:15 |
| cubezzz | it has to be enabled but it doesn't look hard to do | Apr 15 16:16 |
| Sosumi | http://techpinions.com/say-goodbye-to-microsoft/29242 | Apr 15 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techpinions.com | Say Goodbye To Microsoft | Tech.pinions - Perspective, Insight, Analysis [ http://ur1.ca/h38b0 ] | Apr 15 16:24 | |
| Sosumi | no, no, no and NO | Apr 15 16:24 |
| Sosumi | the very definition of a M$ product is this | Apr 15 16:24 |
| Sosumi | http://daisydesk.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/100_0751.jpg | Apr 15 16:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Looking for a Windows XP Replacement? PCLinuxOS | Apr 15 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | MATE 2014.04 Might Be the Answer | Apr 15 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cxWWPz4giM | Apr 15 16:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Source: Steam Controller will be available in | Apr 15 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "October or November" http://t.co/gUoAWTf7PP | Apr 15 16:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android (Linux) is creating more jobs than | Apr 15 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | iPhone http://t.co/6DJGlE2oBn | Apr 15 16:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Beautiful Zukitwo Theme for GNOME 3.12 Gets an | Apr 15 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Update http://t.co/NRGD6k3GeD | Apr 15 16:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat To Bring Docker Support To Enterprise | Apr 15 16:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux And OpenShift http://t.co/lRmlNphxQQ | Apr 15 16:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Looking for a Windows XP Replacement? PCLinuxOS MATE 2014.04 Might Be the Answer | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Source: Steam Controller will be available in "October or November" | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android (Linux) is creating more jobs than iPhone | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Beautiful Zukitwo Theme for GNOME 3.12 Gets an Update | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat To Bring Docker Support To Enterprise Linux And OpenShift | Tux Machines | Apr 15 16:42 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Apr 15 17:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu chases enterprise cloud with Server | Apr 15 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 14.04 release http://t.co/DW05D9u1nB | Apr 15 17:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines PCLinuxOS FullMonty 2014.04 Has Six Separate | Apr 15 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Desktops Filled with Goodies – Gallery | Apr 15 17:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/H3l2e15v4h | Apr 15 17:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/FgA8XNEk8Q | Apr 15 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Apr 15 20:02 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Apr 15 20:02 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.2.2-37 Distro Features | Apr 15 21:22 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 release candidate | Apr 15 21:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | arrives http://t.co/fpIBvNyRyi | Apr 15 21:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.2.2-37 Distro Features Updated Packages | Tux Machines | Apr 15 21:23 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux module controls micro-helicopters | Apr 15 23:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines April 2014 Project of the Month, Free Pascal | Apr 15 23:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux module controls micro-helicopters | Tux Machines | Apr 15 23:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Rugged Android fleet computer offers 3G, GPS, | Apr 15 23:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | April 2014 Project of the Month, Free Pascal | Tux Machines | Apr 15 23:16 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Apr 16 04:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 14 Features of Xubuntu 14.04 | Apr 16 05:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 14 Features of Xubuntu 14.04 | Tux Machines | Apr 16 05:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | I got my new cable modem/router. | Apr 16 07:34 |
| DaemonFC | Much nicer than Comcast's. | Apr 16 07:34 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 16 07:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: It included a copy of the GNU General Public License. | Apr 16 07:59 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 16 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | Under system requirements, it says "Linux" is a supported operating system. | Apr 16 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | Well, now I can get rid of another one of life's little ripoffs. | Apr 16 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | Modem rental fee. | Apr 16 08:00 |
| cubezzz | I did that 10 years ago :) | Apr 16 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. I was waiting for a good deal on a combination unit that supported the latest standards. | Apr 16 08:01 |
| cubezzz | how much was the rental fee? | Apr 16 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't feel like getting stuck on something that didn't support ipv6 or DOCSIS 3. | Apr 16 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | $8 a month | Apr 16 08:02 |
| cubezzz | 8 * 12 * 10 = $960 | Apr 16 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | The price for the Netgear N450 cable modem/router on Amazon fell to $99.99. | Apr 16 08:02 |
| DaemonFC | And I got 3% off for using my Amazon Visa. | Apr 16 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but up until 2012, it was only $3 a month. | Apr 16 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | Then in 2013, it was $5, and then in 2014, it is now $8. | Apr 16 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | So, basically, the rental fee is killing you now, compared to owning. | Apr 16 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | It pays for itself in 12 months, and then starts saving you money. | Apr 16 08:03 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: Yeah. Over 10 years, you can rent a modem and pay for it 10 times over, or you can own it and spend the remaining $900 any way you choose. :) | Apr 16 08:06 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz: You forgot tax, which in Indiana, is 7%. | Apr 16 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | So 56 cents a month in tax makes the real rental cost $8.56 a month. | Apr 16 08:07 |
| DaemonFC | $1,027.20 over 10 years, *if* they don't raise it again. | Apr 16 08:08 |
| cubezzz | $8 is a rip-off | Apr 16 08:08 |
| cubezzz | In Canada they don't even sell DSL modems in stores | Apr 16 08:10 |
| cubezzz | so I bought mind directly from Ovislink Canada | Apr 16 08:11 |
| cubezzz | s/mind/mine/ | Apr 16 08:11 |
| cubezzz | just like they don't sell DVR's that record antenna broadcasts | Apr 16 08:12 |
| cubezzz | they are all tied to Rogers and Bell | Apr 16 08:12 |
| cubezzz | I remember I called one store and they said "No one provides DSL modems except the ISP" | Apr 16 08:13 |
| cubezzz | totally false | Apr 16 08:13 |
| cubezzz | but I deal directly with a freenet so no problem there | Apr 16 08:14 |
| cubezzz | so yeah, a lot of people are getting squeezed by content providers | Apr 16 08:18 |
| msb_ | Another point to note is that even though electronics gets cheaper to produce every year, the fee we're forced to pay to content (or Internet) providers for their *usage* of electronics for our needs keeps increasing. They just gouge us more and more every year because they *can*. There's nothing stopping them. | Apr 16 08:38 |
| msb_ | That's another problem with Capitalism. The only force that pushes prices lower is competition. But in many areas there IS NO COMPETITION. In the San Francisco Bay Area, where I live, Comcast is the ONLY cable company -- mandated by law. The only competition is DSL, which is much lower speed. | Apr 16 08:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat 7 RC, Ubuntu 14.04 Server, and Why | Apr 16 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GNOME http://t.co/ANUwIfmLvj | Apr 16 08:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Early Linux 3.15 Benchmarks Of Intel Core i7 + | Apr 16 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Radeon http://t.co/Kv6bahxmg9 | Apr 16 08:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Trying Out Radeon R9 290 Graphics On | Apr 16 08:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat 7 RC, Ubuntu 14.04 Server, and Why GNOME | Tux Machines | Apr 16 08:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bigger BeagleBone Blacks and Thoughts on | Apr 16 08:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Qt on Android: The top 5 markets | Apr 16 08:43 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines MakuluLinux Interview: Lead Developer Jaque | Apr 16 08:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Raymer Talks About Makulu | Apr 16 08:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Early Linux 3.15 Benchmarks Of Intel Core i7 + Radeon | Tux Machines | Apr 16 08:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trying Out Radeon R9 290 Graphics On Open-Source | Tux Machines | Apr 16 08:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bigger BeagleBone Blacks and Thoughts on Raspberry Pi’s Modulea | Tux Machines | Apr 16 08:43 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MakuluLinux Interview: Lead Developer Jaque Raymer Talks About Makulu | Tux Machines | Apr 16 08:43 | |
| cubezzz | I don't worry too much about the speed being lower | Apr 16 08:58 |
| cubezzz | as long as I have control over input/output, e.g. one can run services | Apr 16 08:58 |
| cubezzz | in the United States it seems like it's different | Apr 16 08:59 |
| cubezzz | the Free-nets have eroded and the cable companies have taken over | Apr 16 08:59 |
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| MinceR | http://leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-bill/ | Apr 16 09:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-leapsecond.com | First Atomic Clock Wristwatch | Apr 16 09:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why I Switched to GNOME http://t.co/F75qbHeaUD | Apr 16 09:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google’s Project ARA Modular Phone Looks Really | Apr 16 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Amazing http://t.co/weoXcwAmR0 | Apr 16 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why I Switched to GNOME | Tux Machines | Apr 16 09:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google’s Project ARA Modular Phone Looks Really Amazing | Tux Machines | Apr 16 09:52 | |
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| Sosumi | google glass in one picture | Apr 16 10:20 |
| Sosumi | http://pandodaily.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/google-glasssss.jpg?w=900&h=675 | Apr 16 10:20 |
| cubezzz | I have to say kdevelop is rather voluminous, even the 3.5.10 version | Apr 16 10:27 |
| cubezzz | the executables use a lot of shared libs | Apr 16 10:30 |
| cubezzz | libkdeprint.so and libXinerama is linked | Apr 16 10:31 |
| cubezzz | kids and their new ideas | Apr 16 10:32 |
| MinceR | vim > * | Apr 16 10:35 |
| cubezzz | that's why unix v7 is so interesting | Apr 16 10:39 |
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| cubezzz | unirubik was 15436 bytes | Apr 16 10:42 |
| cubezzz | if you strip the symbols it's down to 10384 | Apr 16 10:43 |
| cubezzz | that is pretty lean | Apr 16 10:43 |
| cubezzz | ah I see now, it's for multi-headed displays | Apr 16 10:47 |
| cubezzz | Xinerama that is | Apr 16 10:48 |
| cubezzz | and it's a DEC project too | Apr 16 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google’s Project ARA Modular Phone Looks Really | Apr 16 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Amazing http://t.co/weoXcwAmR0 | Apr 16 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @_Goblin | Apr 16 10:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE 4.13 Is Being Released Today With New | Apr 16 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Features http://t.co/gqiR3WHisR | Apr 16 10:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Deepin 2014 Alpha Linux Distro Will Blow You | Apr 16 10:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Away – Gallery http://t.co/ZQZT8lLWwO | Apr 16 10:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE 4.13 Is Being Released Today With New Features | Tux Machines | Apr 16 10:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deepin 2014 Alpha Linux Distro Will Blow You Away – Gallery | Tux Machines | Apr 16 10:49 | |
| cubezzz | check out the keyboard on this setup: | Apr 16 10:52 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/xmonad-tripleheader.jpg | Apr 16 10:52 |
| cubezzz | it looks like they have two touchpads on there | Apr 16 10:53 |
| MinceR | the wrist pads on the keyboard are not touchpads, if that's what you mean :> | Apr 16 11:00 |
| MinceR | kinesis something | Apr 16 11:00 |
| cubezzz | oh I see | Apr 16 11:00 |
| cubezzz | the keys look strange too | Apr 16 11:01 |
| MinceR | kinesis advantage [pro?] | Apr 16 11:01 |
| MinceR | looks a lot like the maltron keyboards | Apr 16 11:01 |
| cubezzz | whoa, expensive | Apr 16 11:02 |
| cubezzz | I guess they just added those wrist pads to the keyboard | Apr 16 11:05 |
| MinceR | it seems so to me | Apr 16 11:05 |
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| msb_ | It looks like the central display has leaves folded behind it. | Apr 16 11:36 |
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| msb | US pays half of now-Nazi Ukraine's Russian gas bill http://www.collapsenet.com/free-resources/collapsenet-public-access/news-alerts/item/12452-us-pays-half-of-gazproms-overdue-invoice-with-$1-billion-ukraine-loan-guarantee | Apr 16 13:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Maynard: A Lightweight Wayland Desktop | Apr 16 14:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source Code Has Fewer Defects Than | Apr 16 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Proprietary Software http://t.co/tJMfOW07V7 | Apr 16 14:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First-Person Programming Game Glitchspace | Apr 16 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Arrives on Steam for Linux | Apr 16 14:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EU countries 'prefer open specifications' | Apr 16 14:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Maynard: A Lightweight Wayland Desktop | Tux Machines | Apr 16 14:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Can Run Apps Designed for Firefox OS | Apr 16 14:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | from Firefox Marketplace http://t.co/Kw72d4g4PU | Apr 16 14:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Code Has Fewer Defects Than Proprietary Software | Tux Machines | Apr 16 14:06 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EU countries 'prefer open specifications' | Tux Machines | Apr 16 14:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Can Run Apps Designed for Firefox OS from Firefox Marketplace | Tux Machines | Apr 16 14:06 | |
| cubezzz | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/14/04/16/1654207/intel-pushes-into-tablet-market-pushes-away-from-microsoft | Apr 16 14:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.slashdot.org | Intel Pushes Into Tablet Market, Pushes Away From Microsoft - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/h3k6p ] | Apr 16 14:32 | |
| cubezzz | seems like the chromebooks are still all intel? | Apr 16 14:37 |
| MinceR | nope | Apr 16 14:37 |
| MinceR | there is at least one that's samsung exynos | Apr 16 14:37 |
| MinceR | and via probably uses their own cpu | Apr 16 14:37 |
| cubezzz | you're right, looks like HP has one too | Apr 16 14:45 |
| cubezzz | Exynos 5250 | Apr 16 14:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 10 Things To Do After Installing Ubuntu 14.04 | Apr 16 15:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Trusty Tahr To Get A Near Perfect Desktop | Apr 16 15:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Will Android TV kill Google’s Chromecast? | Apr 16 15:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Edward Snowden Used the Tails Linux Distro to | Apr 16 15:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Apr 16 15:25 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 16 15:25 | |
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| Sosumi | reading "morals and dogma" atm | Apr 16 16:16 |
| Sosumi | and I've found on passage in the book that says what I've been saying all along | Apr 16 16:16 |
| Sosumi | about religion and cult being nothing more than an "ignorant" interpretation of the celestial plane | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | aka planets and orbits | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | We know, through a precise testimony in the ancient annals of Tsur, that the principal | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | festivity of Mal-karth, the incarnation of the Sun at the Winter Solstice, held at Tsur, was | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | called his rebirth or his awakening, and that it was celebrated by means of a pyre, on | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | which the god was supposed to regain, through the aid of fire, a new life. This festival | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | was celebrated in the month Peritius (Barith), the second day of which corresponded to | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | the 25th of December. KHUR-UM, King of Tyre, Movers says, first performed this | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | ceremony. These facts we learn from Josephus, Servius on the AEneid, and the | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | Dionysiacs of Nonnus; and through a coincidence that cannot be fortuitous, the same | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | day was at Rome the Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, the festal day of the invincible Sun. Under | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | this title, HERCULES, HAR-acles, was worshipped at Tsur. Thus, while the temple was | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | being erected, the death and resurrection of a Sun-God was annually represented at | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | Tsur, by Solomon's ally, at the winter solstice, by the pyre of MAL-KARIH, the Tsurian | Apr 16 16:17 |
| Sosumi | Haracles. | Apr 16 16:17 |
| cubezzz | can you explain chocolate easter bunnies? :) | Apr 16 16:18 |
| Sosumi | well, it is a fertility cult in the honor of ishtar | Apr 16 16:19 |
| Sosumi | in which everyone engaged in massive orgies | Apr 16 16:19 |
| Sosumi | since bunnies reproduce fast | Apr 16 16:19 |
| Sosumi | you get the chocolate bunny as memento from times long gone | Apr 16 16:19 |
| cubezzz | ok, but some guy must have come up with the idea of making them chocolate | Apr 16 16:20 |
| cubezzz | I mean, it's a great way to sell chocolate and all | Apr 16 16:20 |
| *Sosumi puts on his russian accent | Apr 16 16:21 | |
| Sosumi | some capitalist pig! | Apr 16 16:21 |
| Sosumi | I wouldn't mind a chocolate egg for easter | Apr 16 16:22 |
| Sosumi | but I'm allergic to chocolate | Apr 16 16:22 |
| Sosumi | :( | Apr 16 16:22 |
| cubezzz | that's some bad luck there | Apr 16 16:23 |
| Sosumi | I haven't any references in the book yet | Apr 16 16:33 |
| Sosumi | to the name of Solomon | Apr 16 16:33 |
| Sosumi | but I can say according to a theologian friend of mine | Apr 16 16:33 |
| Sosumi | that it is just the name of the sun in three difference languages | Apr 16 16:34 |
| Sosumi | sol-om-on | Apr 16 16:34 |
| schestowitz__ | Black Duck http://realbusiness.co.uk/article/26362-open-source-from-great-technology-to-greater-intelligence | Apr 16 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-realbusiness.co.uk | Real Business - Open Source: From great technology to greater intelligence [ http://ur1.ca/h3kyo ] | Apr 16 16:35 | |
| Sosumi | ever wandered why the monk chants "om" continuously? | Apr 16 16:35 |
| cubezzz | not really :) | Apr 16 16:35 |
| cubezzz | but thanks for the info | Apr 16 16:35 |
| Sosumi | it is a sun cult | Apr 16 16:35 |
| Sosumi | which at first, according from what I read in Theodicy, was an evolution of the early fire worship cults | Apr 16 16:36 |
| Sosumi | fire, sun, lighting and lightning striking a tree | Apr 16 16:37 |
| schestowitz__ | more of it http://memeburn.com/2014/04/3-top-tips-for-translating-open-source-projects/ | Apr 16 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-memeburn.com | 3 top tips for translating open source projects | memeburn [ http://ur1.ca/h3kz8 ] | Apr 16 16:37 | |
| Sosumi | and we immediately reach the whole mythology of prometeus and lucifer | Apr 16 16:37 |
| Sosumi | for some reason matches | Apr 16 16:38 |
| Sosumi | are also called luciferas | Apr 16 16:38 |
| Sosumi | interesting | Apr 16 16:41 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.sequimgazette.com/news/255514101.html | Apr 16 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sequimgazette.com | Mervin Manufacturing cuts 20 percent of staff - Sequim Gazette [ http://ur1.ca/h3l0c ] | Apr 16 16:41 | |
| Sosumi | so when I turn something "ON" that also means that I'm letting the "light" come in | Apr 16 16:41 |
| Sosumi | light as in life or as it is in the most usual cases, giving an usability to an object | Apr 16 16:43 |
| Sosumi | http://www.macrumors.com/2014/04/16/project-tango-primesense/ | Apr 16 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Google's 'Project Tango' Smartphone Uses Apple's PrimeSense Technology - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/h3l2p ] | Apr 16 16:52 | |
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| Sosumi | it isn't the headlines that matter | Apr 16 16:52 |
| Sosumi | but it appears that google also wants to map your house | Apr 16 16:53 |
| Sosumi | so that when you're a hurry, | Apr 16 16:53 |
| Sosumi | just yap "hi glass, bathroom ASAP!" | Apr 16 16:54 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Apr 16 16:54 |
| Sosumi | switch down brain and off you go | Apr 16 16:55 |
| Sosumi | seb³ | Apr 16 16:55 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: how did you get into open source? | Apr 16 16:55 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of people with their brain permanently off | Apr 16 16:55 |
| MinceR | just observe the latest hungarian election results | Apr 16 16:55 |
| Sosumi | I knew I should have gone into med school | Apr 16 16:55 |
| Sosumi | so I know put the defibrillator against the zombies heads | Apr 16 16:57 |
| Sosumi | sebsebseb, I'm not into opensource sorry | Apr 16 16:57 |
| Sosumi | opensource is bad | Apr 16 16:57 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: free software then | Apr 16 16:57 |
| Sosumi | it is like being a gynecologist without being able to have a taste | Apr 16 16:58 |
| Sosumi | I did dual boot between osx and yellow dog linux | Apr 16 16:58 |
| Sosumi | in order to test the waters | Apr 16 16:59 |
| Sosumi | and that was back in 2005 | Apr 16 16:59 |
| cubezzz | it's funny actually... I tried Linux 0.99 something | Apr 16 16:59 |
| Sosumi | I was 15 at the time and I felt like my quad powermac G5 was kind being wasted in just running osx | Apr 16 17:00 |
| Sosumi | since there was no virtualization possible, dual boot had to be the way | Apr 16 17:01 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/darkstar-0.99-x11.png | Apr 16 17:01 |
| Sosumi | xeyes! | Apr 16 17:02 |
| cubezzz | didn't stick with it | Apr 16 17:02 |
| cubezzz | but by 1995 or so you could get CDs of Linux and FreeBSD | Apr 16 17:03 |
| Sosumi | lol 1995 | Apr 16 17:04 |
| Sosumi | how old were you back then, cubezzz | Apr 16 17:08 |
| abeNd-org | oh the days of installing slackware via a customer floppy & parallel zip100 | Apr 16 17:22 |
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| MinceR | gn | Apr 16 17:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Councils stage open source revival | Apr 16 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ieG77qMZQM | Apr 16 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ljl | Apr 16 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support | Apr 16 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wGXbXW1TrK | Apr 16 18:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ljm | Apr 16 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Councils stage open source revival | Tux Machines | Apr 16 18:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support | Tux Machines | Apr 16 18:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open Source enables government business | Apr 16 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | continuity http://t.co/06bXSWDzjO | Apr 16 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3m4i | Apr 16 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source enables government business continuity | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Mounts $100K Project Ara Dev Challenge | Apr 16 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wNwZExpQsP | Apr 16 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3m4j | Apr 16 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Mounts $100K Project Ara Dev Challenge | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines SystemRescueCd 4.2.0 Recovery Distro Now | Apr 16 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download http://t.co/Mj98MJo23q | Apr 16 20:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3m4k | Apr 16 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SystemRescueCd 4.2.0 Recovery Distro Now Available for Download | Tux Machines | Apr 16 20:11 | |
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| amarsh04 | http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2014/s3987161.htm | Apr 16 23:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | PM - Linc Energy facing criminal charges over alleged environmental harm 16/04/2014 [ http://ur1.ca/h3n9p ] | Apr 16 23:26 | |
| amarsh04 | ^ fracking | Apr 16 23:26 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3938947 | Apr 17 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support http://www.muktware.com/2014/04/nvidia-might-working-g-sync-linux-support/25698 | Apr 17 02:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | NVIDIA might be working on G-SYNC Linux support | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/h3o4l ] | Apr 17 02:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Screw NV. They gave us more problems than benefits." | Apr 17 02:02 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @TheBCEye favourited 'Open Source enables government business continuity http://t.co/06bXSWDzjO' | Apr 17 04:14 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux-Based Autonomous Sub Leads Malaysia | Apr 17 04:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Airlines Flight Search http://t.co/How3AWDBEW | Apr 17 04:14 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3p24 | Apr 17 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-Based Autonomous Sub Leads Malaysia Airlines Flight Search | Tux Machines | Apr 17 04:14 | |
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| msb | NVidia been bery bery good to me. | Apr 17 05:28 |
| Sosumi | in soviet russia, you're bery, bery good to nvidia | Apr 17 05:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Tizen smartphones now slated for 2Q | Apr 17 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | release http://t.co/8dcMnyOKlv | Apr 17 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3pqh | Apr 17 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung Tizen smartphones now slated for 2Q release | Tux Machines | Apr 17 06:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines This is Amazon’s smartphone | Apr 17 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/k8iPPrCPzn | Apr 17 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3pqi | Apr 17 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This is Amazon’s smartphone | Tux Machines | Apr 17 06:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Use Tails to Avoid Prying Eyes | Apr 17 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/dz2X4TKhAu | Apr 17 06:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3pqj | Apr 17 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Use Tails to Avoid Prying Eyes | Tux Machines | Apr 17 06:27 | |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/still-going-strong-sony-sells-more-than-7-million-playstation-4s/ | Apr 17 06:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Still going strong: Sony sells more than 7 million PlayStation 4s | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h3pu9 ] | Apr 17 06:47 | |
| Sosumi | xbone 4.2 million | Apr 17 06:47 |
| Sosumi | still not on sale in portugal | Apr 17 06:47 |
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| Sosumi | I actually think m$ is going to fail hardly | Apr 17 08:41 |
| Sosumi | with the xbone | Apr 17 08:41 |
| Sosumi | no only the console is weaker but has no games | Apr 17 08:41 |
| Sosumi | and the major iterations of the original xbox and xbox 360 have already kind of ended | Apr 17 08:42 |
| Sosumi | aka gears of war and halo | Apr 17 08:42 |
| Sosumi | with the non bungie made halo being meh as well as with halo reach | Apr 17 08:42 |
| Sosumi | I don't even think halo reach's multiplayer even made it to mlg | Apr 17 08:43 |
| Sosumi | with ppl sticking just to halo 3 | Apr 17 08:43 |
| Sosumi | and at the end of the gen after m$ had blown all the steam on the xbox 360 | Apr 17 08:46 |
| Sosumi | the ps3 actually surpassed it | Apr 17 08:47 |
| Sosumi | while the xbox had no good exclusives at all | Apr 17 08:47 |
| Sosumi | so the ps4 doing so well is a continue of the ps3 momentum | Apr 17 08:47 |
| Sosumi | and being the superior platform | Apr 17 08:48 |
| Sosumi | games life bf4 and so on have already proved that | Apr 17 08:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.c-span.org/video/?318889-1/nsa-surveillance-personal-privacy | Apr 17 08:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.c-span.org | NSA Surveillance Personal Privacy | Video | C-SPAN.org [ http://ur1.ca/h3qk7 ] | Apr 17 08:50 | |
| schestowitz | UK GOP :-) | Apr 17 08:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/eee_eff/status/456776229140439040 | Apr 17 08:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@eee_eff: .@schestowitz I increasingly doubt that people feel the two are mutually exclusive... | Apr 17 08:53 | |
| msb | Wiki says the PS4 runs a fork of FreeBSD, but I think that since BSD is not under GPL, the PS4 does not have to be programmable by the user and can be an "appliance" rather than a general purpose computer. Is this correct? | Apr 17 08:55 |
| Sosumi | correct | Apr 17 08:56 |
| msb | That sucks! | Apr 17 08:56 |
| Sosumi | well ofc it does | Apr 17 08:56 |
| Sosumi | just ask the game developers having to fork for a ps4 dev kit when they could instead just grab a ps4 off the shelf and start "deving" | Apr 17 08:57 |
| msb | This is why the GPL is so important, so corporate pigs can't profit off the work of the free World Community without giving back to it. | Apr 17 08:57 |
| msb | All praise to RMS! | Apr 17 08:57 |
| Sosumi | the only way that'd change would be if suddenly M$ let ppl use the xbone as a general purpose computer | Apr 17 08:58 |
| Sosumi | even if limited but as long as it could a regular desktop for home use | Apr 17 08:58 |
| msb | I'd rather use a PS4 than anything from Microshit. | Apr 17 08:59 |
| Sosumi | then sony would probably bring back the gnu/linux support | Apr 17 08:59 |
| Sosumi | that they took away when they launched the ps3 slim | Apr 17 08:59 |
| Sosumi | back in 2009 | Apr 17 08:59 |
| msb | Yeah, that was a bummer. | Apr 17 08:59 |
| Sosumi | well, you know that you still need m$ to develop for the ps3 | Apr 17 09:00 |
| msb | You'd think they would sell more of them if people could use them freely. | Apr 17 09:00 |
| Sosumi | I think it works through a visual studio plugin | Apr 17 09:00 |
| msb | Feh. If it was open and the details were known, somebody would make a module for it for Eclipse. | Apr 17 09:02 |
| msb | Last time I used an MS compiler (many years ago) you had to turn off all the optimizations or it would write severely erroneous code. | Apr 17 09:04 |
| msb | The Prime Directive is: Never use anything from Microsoft! | Apr 17 09:05 |
| msb | If you do, your soul will turn black and fall off. | Apr 17 09:06 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Apr 17 09:09 |
| Sosumi | I'm yet to try VS | Apr 17 09:09 |
| msb | Yes! This is a matter of Good vs Evil. Seriously. | Apr 17 09:09 |
| Sosumi | but from what read, ppl use intel compilers with vs | Apr 17 09:09 |
| msb | I imagine the ms compilers work now. But the company is so viciously evil that it should be completely shunned. | Apr 17 09:10 |
| msb | I haven't even updated this to include UEFI: http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html | Apr 17 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | MICROSOFT'S WAR AGAINST LINUX | Apr 17 09:11 | |
| msb | Companies like Microsoft make money by harming people. That is psychopath behavior! | Apr 17 09:12 |
| msb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqs7GJ0jdY | Apr 17 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Psychopathy in Politics and Finance - Stefan Verstappen on GRTV - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/g22oj ] | Apr 17 09:13 | |
| msb | Of course Microsoft has done a lot more harm than just attacking GNU/Linux. Selling bad software and hardware, keeping people ignorant, lying about all sorts of things, allowing virus propagation, etc. | Apr 17 09:15 |
| cubezzz | I think it's important to remember FOSS is more that just linux | Apr 17 09:23 |
| cubezzz | technically if you have the source code, the compilers/assemblers, and a working computer you have software freedom | Apr 17 09:24 |
| cubezzz | the new chromebooks even have SeaBIOS built-in, so the 16-bit BIOS itself is FOSS | Apr 17 09:24 |
| cubezzz | that's a huge improvement over what we had before | Apr 17 09:25 |
| Sosumi | what about free firmware? | Apr 17 09:25 |
| Sosumi | do you have the source code of your computer's bios? | Apr 17 09:25 |
| cubezzz | yes I do | Apr 17 09:25 |
| cubezzz | I run coreboot with seabios on two machines | Apr 17 09:25 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/coreboot-serial-output.txt | Apr 17 09:26 |
| msb | cubezzz: Wow, that is a wonderful system! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coreboot | Apr 17 09:33 |
| cubezzz | Gigabyte seems to be more FOSS friendly that most motherboard manufacturers | Apr 17 09:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | coreboot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Apr 17 09:33 | |
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| cubezzz | there's the vgabios as well | Apr 17 09:39 |
| cubezzz | video bios appeared in the EGA era | Apr 17 09:41 |
| cubezzz | i.e. the old PC bios didn't know about EGA | Apr 17 09:41 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/456789503252770817 | Apr 17 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz I don't think @KimDotcom needs them to have more ideas for illegal abuse ;)... | Apr 17 09:43 | |
| schestowitz | He's safe. He's white. | Apr 17 09:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/456789807734075392 | Apr 17 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz but I did not hear about @KimDotcom mom's house before...and I thought Germany had higher standards for due process... | Apr 17 09:43 | |
| schestowitz | I thought so too | Apr 17 09:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/ralpost/status/456790616882823168 | Apr 17 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ralpost: @gnutelephony @schestowitz @KimDotcom DMCA-takedown inspired droning, where you execute your target first and investigate the facts later. | Apr 17 09:49 | |
| schestowitz | @ralpost @gnutelephony @KimDotcom with bogus DMCA request the defendant can fight back; with drones you get thoroughly demonised while dead | Apr 17 09:50 |
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| cubezzz | Microsoft tried to infiltrate the watch industry: | Apr 17 10:53 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/timex-microsoft-watch.jpg | Apr 17 10:54 |
| cubezzz | CRT sync was also possible on win95 and win98 | Apr 17 10:55 |
| cubezzz | or rather ONLY possible on win95 and win98 | Apr 17 10:55 |
| MinceR | it's like they haven't heard of serial cables | Apr 17 11:02 |
| Jibbler | http://samsungdesign.tumblr.com/ | Apr 17 11:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-samsungdesign.tumblr.com | Original Designs by Samsung | Apr 17 11:03 | |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/microsoft-watch-version-2.jpg | Apr 17 11:04 |
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| cubezzz | Microsoft SPOT bombed out around 2008 | Apr 17 11:07 |
| cubezzz | I never even heard about it before now | Apr 17 11:07 |
| gde33 | doesn't Net neutrality mean the internet is dominated by imbiciles? | Apr 17 11:12 |
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| Sosumi | http://recode.net/2014/04/16/marissa-mayers-secret-plan-to-get-apple-to-dump-google-and-default-to-yahoo-mobile-search/ | Apr 17 11:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-recode.net | Marissa Mayer’s Secret Plan to Get Apple to Dump Google and Default to Yahoo Mobile Search | Re/code [ http://ur1.ca/h3rln ] | Apr 17 11:20 | |
| Sosumi | yahoo is currently engaged with m$ | Apr 17 11:20 |
| Sosumi | and something I didn't know | Apr 17 11:20 |
| Sosumi | Siri uses bing | Apr 17 11:21 |
| Sosumi | since crapple doesn't have their own search engine | Apr 17 11:21 |
| cubezzz | ya, microsoft is always trying to take over everything | Apr 17 11:21 |
| cubezzz | there's always late to the party though | Apr 17 11:22 |
| Sosumi | and their advertisement platform isn't that great (iAd) | Apr 17 11:22 |
| cubezzz | they're | Apr 17 11:22 |
| Sosumi | I see this really happening | Apr 17 11:22 |
| Sosumi | no | Apr 17 11:22 |
| Sosumi | late to the party is always apple | Apr 17 11:23 |
| Sosumi | not m$ | Apr 17 11:23 |
| Sosumi | m$ just trails behind gnu/linux | Apr 17 11:23 |
| Sosumi | and if you want stuff not working, crappy drivers and missing features | Apr 17 11:24 |
| Sosumi | hey just get mac | Apr 17 11:24 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 17 11:24 |
| Sosumi | siemens just released their new version of NX | Apr 17 11:25 |
| Sosumi | unfortunately it is now ribbon themed | Apr 17 11:25 |
| Sosumi | but it works flawlessly on both windows and gnu/linux | Apr 17 11:26 |
| cubezzz | well I suppose there's DuckDuckGo and what was that other one | Apr 17 11:26 |
| Sosumi | but on osx it has missing features | Apr 17 11:26 |
| cubezzz | Ixquick I think | Apr 17 11:27 |
| Sosumi | I just use google, no point in bothering much | Apr 17 11:28 |
| Sosumi | since I've never had any expectation of privacy on the internet | Apr 17 11:28 |
| Sosumi | so I also don't trow it out there sensitive information nor post selfies of myself | Apr 17 11:29 |
| Sosumi | but I do expect that the information inside my HDD to remain private | Apr 17 11:29 |
| cubezzz | actually I don't mind some ads | Apr 17 11:29 |
| Sosumi | I just addblock everything | Apr 17 11:30 |
| cubezzz | if it's stuff I'm interested in | Apr 17 11:30 |
| Sosumi | not even the google ads escape | Apr 17 11:30 |
| cubezzz | it's funny, originally /usr/local/sbin or at least /sbin were supposed to be statically linked | Apr 17 13:08 |
| cubezzz | instead we have bloated dynamically linked executables | Apr 17 13:08 |
| cubezzz | openbsd doesn't do that | Apr 17 13:09 |
| cubezzz | they did do a pretty good job of reining in the bloat | Apr 17 13:09 |
| cubezzz | but nothing compares to the efficency of Unix v7 on PDP | Apr 17 13:10 |
| cubezzz | actually fc1 was kind of bloated too | Apr 17 13:15 |
| cubezzz | and to be fair the dynamically linked stuff is smaller | Apr 17 13:17 |
| cubezzz | it's just if there's stuff on another partition that gets borked you're /sbin stuff could be unuseable | Apr 17 13:18 |
| cubezzz | really none of the modern linux's are truly lightweight | Apr 17 13:21 |
| cubezzz | the only one I can think of is BL3, but it's very old | Apr 17 13:21 |
| cubezzz | even tiny core recommends 128 megs of ram | Apr 17 13:21 |
| cubezzz | folks, you deserve to see the leanest and meanest linux | Apr 17 13:42 |
| cubezzz | remember, it runs Linux with X in 16 megs of ram | Apr 17 13:42 |
| cubezzz | I spent a lot of time researching this :) | Apr 17 13:43 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/basic-linux-3-is-lean-and-mean.png | Apr 17 13:43 |
| cubezzz | ok, icewm was also possible, on a 486: | Apr 17 13:45 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-486.jpg | Apr 17 13:45 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3942483 | Apr 17 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #CIA director in #Kiev searching for missing mercenaries http://www.voltairenet.org/article183269.html #ukraine #libya #syria | Apr 17 13:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Think of the mercenaries." | Apr 17 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.voltairenet.org | CIA director in Kiev searching for missing mercenaries [ http://ur1.ca/h3sio ] | Apr 17 13:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3942557 | Apr 17 13:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "CIA...monitored the prisoners’ body temperatures for hypothermia as they were continuously covered with ice water" http://www.uscatholic.org/news/201404/commentary-cia-torture-report-ought-disturb-all-our-consciences-28778 | Apr 17 13:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.uscatholic.org | COMMENTARY: CIA torture report ought to disturb all our consciences | USCatholic.org [ http://ur1.ca/h3sir ] | Apr 17 13:47 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I've reposted this on other social media. Appalling report." | Apr 17 13:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3941990 | Apr 17 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Remember reports about #assange (AU) as #drone target? http://www.3news.co.nz/Drone-strike-that-killed-Kiwi-justified---expert/tabid/423/articleID/340460/Default.aspx http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/4/16/new-zealand-australianmenkilledinyemenstrike.html | Apr 17 13:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.3news.co.nz | Drone strike that killed Kiwi justified - expert - Story - NZ News - 3 News [ http://ur1.ca/h3siy ] | Apr 17 13:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> america.aljazeera.com | U.S. drone strike kills New Zealander, Australian in Yemen | Al Jazeera America [ http://ur1.ca/h3siz ] | Apr 17 13:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | "There's a disturbing definition of the right to kill, "They have said that they will kill Americans and harm American interests and those of their allies – of which we are one – at any opportunity." Not justiied as an imminent threat of bodily harm to a citizen, justified as any threat to American interests. If you tell people not to eat at McDonalds, are you a terrorist that deserves death regardless of the danger to innocent | Apr 17 13:48 |
| schestowitz__ | people around you?" | Apr 17 13:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3941978 | Apr 17 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "NSA’s egregious conduct has currently reached Orwellian proportions and is a serious threat to “Freedom of Thought”" http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/nsa-control/2014/04/16 | Apr 17 13:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> baltimorepostexaminer.com | Is the NSA out of control? - Baltimore Post-Examiner [ http://ur1.ca/h3sj4 ] | Apr 17 13:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | "The truth has hit Baltimore?!" | Apr 17 13:48 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3899097 | Apr 17 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Exposing the U.S. Corporate Interests Behind #Ukraine Coup http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/exposing-us-corporate-interests-behind-ukraine-putsch "economic interests of giant corporations" | Apr 17 13:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.alternet.org | Exposing the U.S. Corporate Interests Behind Ukraine Coup | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/h1qzm ] | Apr 17 13:49 | |
| schestowitz__ | "well, for you it is coup, for me it was "human right for rebellion against crminal dictator"." | Apr 17 13:49 |
| schestowitz__ | Look at the outcome of this botched coup | Apr 17 13:49 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3941108 | Apr 17 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@marekjm@iliketoast.net: *In response to: [Preparing the ground for the Fedora Workstation](/posts/2c925309c2ebe661) post* The idea of adding polish and removing the sharp-and-ugly edges from the Linux ecosystem is a very noble one. However, I wouldn't say that I can agree with all things that were said in the article. However, it's hard to tell what exactly is bad with some statements being made -- for me it was more like *It's a good ide | Apr 17 14:01 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | In response to: Preparing the ground for the Fedora Workstation post | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | The idea of adding polish and removing the sharp-and-ugly edges from the Linux ecosystem is a very noble one. However, I wouldn't say that I can agree with all things that were said in the article. | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | However, it's hard to tell what exactly is bad with some statements being made -- for me it was more like It's a good idea, this one, but I think it lacks X/forgets about Y... | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I agree with the cherrypicking attitude when building a stable system - but the cherries should be picked by the users, shouldn't they? Why limit the choice this way when the rest of the article praises the availability of choice on the GUI-toolkit side? | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Wouldn't it be better to turn Fedora into Fedora Workstation (with more polish and optimised, presets) and make Fedora Workstation really workstation-ready? I mean, it's we developers who know what we need best - e.g. I mostly do Python and C++ library development and I need tools and environment which are radically different than, for example, those needed by a programmer who develops webapps. | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I see no way for a pre-set desktop that would be good for both of us. But - I see a way for a desktop which comes bare-bones but offers advanced tools to install required programs, toolkits, GUI-environments etc. That makes a good job at helping the user manage itself and does not get in the way by saying *Hey, I'd like you do this MY WAY, otherwise it will be oh-so-hard". | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Such system is truly workstation-ready in my opinion. Let us not forget that there is there is the work part in the workstation word. | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | And, last but - for me - not least, my usual rant about the focus on web applications. I have been, am and will be opposing the move to web-interface-only programs, and those who will not work without seamless access to net. | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | This point of view was shaped by my personal experiences, so take not that it is a biased opinion - I have always, and in fact I still do, had bad network access. If a program requires a constant access to the Network it's a no-go for me. | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I praise git (and I really mean it!) for being local-goes-global and not the other way round. It's a real blessing and an engineering excellence that despite being a tool to work over the network it needs reliable net access only for some 15 minutes to actually push local changes and pull upstream. | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | And this is how people should be able to work - not worrying that they need something that is not immediately available on their local workstation. | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe I am wrong, I am definitely no authority, but I think that when the real work is done webapps should take the back sits and let real desktop programs take the first spot. I do not deny their usefulness - but I consider them more as interfaces to inspect the results of work (e.g. GitHub) or as a tools for discussion (e.g. Loomio). | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Well, that were my two (actually more like twelve) cents. | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Apr 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/456850377909239808 | Apr 17 14:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz and unlike telepathy it supports otr and zrtp... | Apr 17 14:05 | |
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| Sosumi | want another example of osx being the one always behind | Apr 17 14:55 |
| Sosumi | nvidia released yesterday the production version of cuda6 | Apr 17 14:55 |
| Sosumi | meanwhile people who updated to it are seeing a major decrease in performance | Apr 17 14:56 |
| MinceR | The Trailing Edge of Technology™ | Apr 17 14:56 |
| Sosumi | while the same hardware running windows is showing the performance | Apr 17 14:57 |
| Sosumi | not mentioned that the exact same hardware benches higher on windows than it does on osx | Apr 17 14:58 |
| Sosumi | <Sosumi> while the same hardware running windows is showing the SAME performance | Apr 17 14:59 |
| Sosumi | sorry ate that word out | Apr 17 14:59 |
| MinceR | i guess they needed something to make winblows look good | Apr 17 15:00 |
| Sosumi | no idea | Apr 17 15:00 |
| Sosumi | but linux and windows are on par | Apr 17 15:00 |
| Sosumi | osx, no | Apr 17 15:00 |
| Sosumi | even open cl is up to 20% slow on osx | Apr 17 15:01 |
| Sosumi | compared to windows and linux | Apr 17 15:01 |
| Sosumi | and now you even pay through your nose for underclocked gpus | Apr 17 15:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/rIS6Y1SLJs | Apr 17 15:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Haswell Graphics Benchmarks From Linux | Apr 17 15:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 3.15 http://t.co/44oOWRdJBC | Apr 17 15:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Officially | Apr 17 15:18 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released http://t.co/DWGj9R8BV5 | Apr 17 15:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 17 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Haswell Graphics Benchmarks From Linux 3.15 | Tux Machines | Apr 17 15:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Officially Released | Tux Machines | Apr 17 15:19 | |
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| Sosumi | https://twitter.com/NinaByzantina/status/456863746254594049/photo/1 | Apr 17 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NinaByzantina: Brainwashing starts early: schoolchildren from #Canada on #Ukraine. What's missing is telling https://t.co/3VV2yL7epc http://t.co/H7rm4xBwDL | Apr 17 15:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.facebook.com | Sherwood Park Ukrainian Bilingual Program | Facebook | Apr 17 15:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@NinaByzantina: Brainwashing starts early: schoolchildren from #Canada on #Ukraine. What's missing is telling https://t.co/3VV2yL7epc http://t.co/H7rm4xBwDL | Apr 17 15:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Released, See What`s New | Apr 17 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | [Video, Screenshots] http://t.co/H9QvMSQgbj | Apr 17 16:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines QEMU 2.0 Released With ARM, x86 Enhancements | Apr 17 16:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3: It’s time to let go of the past | Apr 17 16:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04.4 vs. 13.10 vs. 14.04 LTS Desktop | Apr 17 16:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 6 “Squeeze” LTS Period Extended Until | Apr 17 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | February 2016 http://t.co/ciwp2NPuYZ | Apr 17 16:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve's OpenGL Debugger Now Supports Unreal 4 | Apr 17 16:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Engine with Linux Support | Apr 17 16:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Released, See What`s New [Video, Screenshots] | Tux Machines | Apr 17 16:08 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3: It’s time to let go of the past | Tux Machines | Apr 17 16:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.04.4 vs. 13.10 vs. 14.04 LTS Desktop Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Apr 17 16:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 6 “Squeeze” LTS Period Extended Until February 2016 | Tux Machines | Apr 17 16:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Valve's OpenGL Debugger Now Supports Unreal 4 Engine with Linux Support | Tux Machines | Apr 17 16:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Choosing a license http://t.co/ekyRjBqY5n | Apr 17 16:57 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines WordPress 3.9 arrives with stunning editor and | Apr 17 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | more features http://t.co/B186TyWEJA | Apr 17 16:57 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @_Goblin retweeted @tuxmachines: 'WordPress 3.9 arrives with stunning editor and more...' | Apr 17 16:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Choosing a license | Tux Machines | Apr 17 16:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 3.9 arrives with stunning editor and more features | Tux Machines | Apr 17 16:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Containers Answer The Right Question | Apr 17 17:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Now you can access Windows PCs and Macs from | Apr 17 17:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android devices http://t.co/TCDddy5u0J | Apr 17 17:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Is Now | Apr 17 17:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download http://t.co/S7dgX3pFOM | Apr 17 17:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 12.04 LTS vs. 14.04 LTS Server | Apr 17 17:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Benchmarks http://t.co/MlDSlk7u7X | Apr 17 17:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Has Been | Apr 17 17:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released and Is Ready to Replace Windows XP | Apr 17 17:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Icehouse: New OpenStack cloud arrives | Apr 17 17:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Containers Answer The Right Question | Tux Machines | Apr 17 17:46 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now you can access Windows PCs and Macs from Android devices | Tux Machines | Apr 17 17:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Is Now Available for Download | Tux Machines | Apr 17 17:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS vs. 14.04 LTS Server Benchmarks | Tux Machines | Apr 17 17:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Has Been Released and Is Ready to Replace Windows XP | Tux Machines | Apr 17 17:47 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LG’s golden G3 smartphone is arriving this | Apr 17 19:53 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) Is Now | Apr 17 19:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | retweeted by Available for Download http://t.co/S7dgX3pFOM | Apr 17 19:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @RanjibDey | Apr 17 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LG’s golden G3 smartphone is arriving this summer | Tux Machines | Apr 17 19:53 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS Screenshot Tour | Apr 18 02:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines | Apr 18 02:03 | |
| Sosumi | http://lh4.ggpht.com/-jEvZ92AfOgE/TqvIgI0UIDI/AAAAAAAAFM0/qlILdBc-PLU/end%252520is%252520near%252520cartoon%25255B6%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800 | Apr 18 02:20 |
| Sosumi | "the end is near" | Apr 18 02:20 |
| Sosumi | well, the end of the week :) | Apr 18 02:20 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I completly forgot about the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS release yesterday | Apr 18 02:23 |
| sebsebseb | since other stuff | Apr 18 02:23 |
| sebsebseb | ah well | Apr 18 02:23 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: altough the Ubuntu release party channel may have been fun so hmm | Apr 18 02:23 |
| Sosumi | I'm not a fan of ubuntu | Apr 18 02:23 |
| sebsebseb | altough it shows how my life has changed | Apr 18 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | years ago I would have not had much else to think about really and so going there no problem | Apr 18 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I was going to do a talk yesterday, but | Apr 18 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | un well and had travel issues and what not as well, so nope, another time instead | Apr 18 02:24 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: no I don't really like Ubuntu that much either since 2009 | Apr 18 02:25 |
| sebsebseb | ,but it's still one of the best chances at Desktop Linux going more main streame | Apr 18 02:26 |
| Sosumi | oddly enough I always have to do in order to occupy myself | Apr 18 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | to be honest I don't really care about that as much either these days really, but someone in my family is still running unsupported Windwos XP for now, which I am not happy about of course | Apr 18 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | now I just need to test a ISO for what will become Mageia 4.1 | Apr 18 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | which is meant to fix isolinux bugs, where there's issues on old hardware, and the computer won't boot up, from Live CD | Apr 18 02:26 |
| sebsebseb | CD's | Apr 18 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | and well hopefuly that will work and :) | Apr 18 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: you always have to what to occupy yourself? | Apr 18 02:27 |
| Sosumi | gym, classes, studying, readying, projects | Apr 18 02:27 |
| Sosumi | there's always stuff to do | Apr 18 02:27 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: not in my current life to be honest | Apr 18 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | ,but here and there yes | Apr 18 02:28 |
| sebsebseb | or there is stuff I could do, but don't just do. getting rid of more life junk, sorting out the driiving thorey, just two examples | Apr 18 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: to many old CD R's and what not here still | Apr 18 02:29 |
| sebsebseb | to go through and get rid of most of them | Apr 18 02:29 |
| Sosumi | I've already got rid of all my cds | Apr 18 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | CD R's | Apr 18 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | or in general | Apr 18 02:30 |
| sebsebseb | music CD's and what not to | Apr 18 02:30 |
| MinceR | http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21601004-why-europes-populists-and-radicals-admire-vladimir-putin-russias-friends-black | Apr 18 02:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.economist.com | Charlemagne: Russia’s friends in black | The Economist [ http://ur1.ca/h3w88 ] | Apr 18 02:30 | |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: I'll keep the proper CD's and DVD's, but most CD R's and DVD R's will be going | Apr 18 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | including the really old blank ones I think from years ago | Apr 18 02:31 |
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| Sosumi | ho, I just my music from the piratebay | Apr 18 02:31 |
| Sosumi | *get | Apr 18 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: that's blocked in this country | Apr 18 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | by ISP's | Apr 18 02:31 |
| sebsebseb | since the goverment requested that | Apr 18 02:31 |
| Sosumi | plus most of the stuff I hear | Apr 18 02:31 |
| Sosumi | is from artists that are already dead | Apr 18 02:31 |
| Sosumi | I'm sure Tchaikovsky wouldn't mind | Apr 18 02:32 |
| sebsebseb | ok, but the record companies still want to profit off that hmm | Apr 18 02:32 |
| Sosumi | nor Ronnie Dio | Apr 18 02:32 |
| Sosumi | that is a problem | Apr 18 02:33 |
| Sosumi | once the record label stops printing the album for 3 years after the artist's death | Apr 18 02:33 |
| Sosumi | the record label should relinquish its rights | Apr 18 02:33 |
| Sosumi | just one example | Apr 18 02:34 |
| MinceR | then they'll never stop printing albums | Apr 18 02:34 |
| Sosumi | but what if ppl don't buy them | Apr 18 02:34 |
| Sosumi | they print according to demmand | Apr 18 02:34 |
| MinceR | just like how movie franchise licensees never stop making comic book movie reboots | Apr 18 02:34 |
| MinceR | so they don't lose the license | Apr 18 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: why do you say 3 years after | Apr 18 02:34 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: ? | Apr 18 02:34 |
| MinceR | Sosumi: they can keep making a very low number every 3 years | Apr 18 02:35 |
| Sosumi | good point | Apr 18 02:35 |
| Sosumi | but I just said that as an example on the spur of the moment | Apr 18 02:35 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: comic book films, yep Spider man sells | Apr 18 02:37 |
| sebsebseb | and another is out in the cinema now or soon | Apr 18 02:37 |
| Sosumi | spider pig | Apr 18 02:38 |
| sebsebseb | the hobbit sells to | Apr 18 02:38 |
| sebsebseb | and stuff like that | Apr 18 02:38 |
| Sosumi | not a fan of that stuff | Apr 18 02:38 |
| sebsebseb | no me either from what I remember of the lord of the rings movies | Apr 18 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | I haven't seen the two hobbit films | Apr 18 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | yet | Apr 18 02:39 |
| sebsebseb | however that kind of stuff is very popular around here | Apr 18 02:39 |
| Sosumi | sad | Apr 18 02:42 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi oh that Ubuntu GNOME one that came in on the Tuxmachines feed | Apr 18 02:43 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Sosumi is by schestowitz__ 's wife apparantly | Apr 18 02:43 |
| MinceR | oh really? | Apr 18 02:43 |
| sebsebseb | yep | Apr 18 02:43 |
| sebsebseb | look who it says it's by etc | Apr 18 02:44 |
| MinceR | oh, i thought you were saying Sosumi is schestowitz__'s wife | Apr 18 02:44 |
| Sosumi | lolwoot? | Apr 18 02:44 |
| MinceR | schestowitz__'s wife posting on tuxmachines is not new to me :) | Apr 18 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | yes Sosumi has turned into a woman over night | Apr 18 02:44 |
| MinceR | i missed the "by" | Apr 18 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | and he's loving it | Apr 18 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | being a woman | Apr 18 02:44 |
| sebsebseb | or uh she's even now then :d | Apr 18 02:44 |
| MinceR | probably should have got more sleep | Apr 18 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi likes being a woman much more than a man | Apr 18 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am thinking the same about sleep | Apr 18 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ok I slept a bit in the chari in the living room, but | Apr 18 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | on the | Apr 18 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but get a better sleep in bed, and it's a bit chilly this mornign and such to | Apr 18 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | 6 degree's c apparnatly hmm | Apr 18 02:45 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yes Sosumi is a woman now, and she's loving being one | Apr 18 02:46 |
| Sosumi | yada yada | Apr 18 02:46 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: you should have put the colon after Sosumi's nick :> | Apr 18 02:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android is the only hope for Intel while | Apr 18 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Microsoft’s market declines | Apr 18 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/PrX5H6ZJ6s | Apr 18 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wbf | Apr 18 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Review of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Apr 18 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/eNNgOOLewk | Apr 18 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wbg | Apr 18 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE 4.1.3 Released, Orphan Linux, and Mint Tips | Apr 18 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/S2c6Hyjx1l | Apr 18 02:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wbh | Apr 18 02:48 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: MinceR oh it's just a tux machiens ink page or whatever, but mentions boht of htem | Apr 18 02:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android is the only hope for Intel while Microsoft’s market declines | Tux Machines | Apr 18 02:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Apr 18 02:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE 4.1.3 Released, Orphan Linux, and Mint Tips | Tux Machines | Apr 18 02:49 | |
| Sosumi | well, | Apr 18 02:55 |
| Sosumi | apparently I need go in order to start doing my "womanly things" | Apr 18 02:55 |
| Sosumi | До скорой встречи! | Apr 18 02:56 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh I had a link for you, but closed it | Apr 18 03:02 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: things a woam should do before she hits 30 | Apr 18 03:02 |
| sebsebseb | Sosumi: oh maybe your older than 30 | Apr 18 03:02 |
| Sosumi | *facepalm* | Apr 18 03:04 |
| Sosumi | just get one on what should russian women do before they reach 30 | Apr 18 03:15 |
| Sosumi | but I think it is time already to quit the joke | Apr 18 03:16 |
| Sosumi | and btw I'm 24 | Apr 18 03:16 |
| Sosumi | laters | Apr 18 03:16 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming | Apr 18 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | in January http://t.co/wdFnjSyoG2 | Apr 18 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wvs | Apr 18 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming in January | Tux Machines | Apr 18 04:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines ownCloud Promotes Scalability, Efficiency of | Apr 18 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open Source Private Cloud | Apr 18 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qvKaxG4d9l | Apr 18 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wvt | Apr 18 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ownCloud Promotes Scalability, Efficiency of Open Source Private Cloud | Tux Machines | Apr 18 04:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines FreeBSD Advances For ARM, Bhyve, Clang | Apr 18 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/696iC3Xlom | Apr 18 04:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3wvu | Apr 18 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD Advances For ARM, Bhyve, Clang | Tux Machines | Apr 18 04:09 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Apr 18 04:24 |
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| schestowitz__ | hey | Apr 18 04:36 |
| schestowitz__ | brb | Apr 18 04:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: The Good, the Bad and the | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Awesome http://t.co/BXTRhCwR2g | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygq | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Battle of the Linux clouds! Linode DOUBLES RAM | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | to take on Digital Ocean http://t.co/qSlI2UJTqz | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygr | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apache OpenOffice hits major 100 million | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | downloads milestone in under 2 years | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9xjJb1lJjj | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygs | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNU/Linux on Power8 Servers | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/HXxEnCJxcZ | Apr 18 09:30 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3ygt | Apr 18 09:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: The Good, the Bad and the Awesome | Tux Machines | Apr 18 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Battle of the Linux clouds! Linode DOUBLES RAM to take on Digital Ocean | Tux Machines | Apr 18 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apache OpenOffice hits major 100 million downloads milestone in under 2 years | Tux Machines | Apr 18 09:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux on Power8 Servers | Tux Machines | Apr 18 09:31 | |
| schestowitz | I've just reckoned.... | Apr 18 10:05 |
| schestowitz | If 'you are what you eat", when cannibalism makes more sense that eating non-human animals | Apr 18 10:05 |
| schestowitz | So maybe the proverb is just stupid | Apr 18 10:05 |
| cubezzz | you're not what you eat | Apr 18 10:19 |
| cubezzz | you're not bits of steak and potatoes or whatever :) | Apr 18 10:19 |
| cubezzz | the body can make 13 of the 22 amino acids | Apr 18 10:20 |
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| Sosumi | well, I'm not even the same I was this morning | Apr 18 10:31 |
| Sosumi | for now many of my cell have already died and been replaced | Apr 18 10:31 |
| Sosumi | *cells | Apr 18 10:32 |
| Sosumi | :) | Apr 18 10:32 |
| MinceR | if 'you are what you eat' then you're all plants | Apr 18 10:33 |
| cubezzz | and we know that plants aren't dirt :) | Apr 18 10:34 |
| MinceR | do plants eat dirt? :> | Apr 18 10:34 |
| cubezzz | they take nutrients out of the soil | Apr 18 10:35 |
| MinceR | i take nutrients out of the fridge | Apr 18 10:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 18 10:35 |
| Sosumi | just that? | Apr 18 10:35 |
| cubezzz | some folks say there's biological transmutation | Apr 18 10:36 |
| Sosumi | don't they also do the photosynthesis | Apr 18 10:36 |
| Sosumi | so plants are not photons either | Apr 18 10:36 |
| cubezzz | definitely :) | Apr 18 10:36 |
| MinceR | or carbon dioxide | Apr 18 10:36 |
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| cubezzz | hippies and long hairs use back door? :) | Apr 18 12:13 |
| cubezzz | I'd love to know where that pic came from | Apr 18 12:14 |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/pc-mac-linux-bsd.jpg | Apr 18 12:18 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/this-beard-says-pipes.jpg | Apr 18 12:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/uslvBnclRW | Apr 18 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3zjl | Apr 18 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Feedback "positive" on Firefox mobile OS, says | Apr 18 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Mozilla exec http://t.co/AJljsNNlY6 | Apr 18 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3zjm | Apr 18 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 18 12:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Opteron X Berlin runs Fedora Linux | Apr 18 12:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Om1OJc7YKG | Apr 18 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feedback "positive" on Firefox mobile OS, says Mozilla exec | Tux Machines | Apr 18 12:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h3zjn | Apr 18 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Opteron X Berlin runs Fedora Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 18 12:26 | |
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| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/and-the-problem-was-gone.jpg | Apr 18 12:27 |
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| Sosumi | https://i.4cdn.org/gif/src/1397783441921.gif | Apr 18 12:57 |
| schestowitz__ | "Source?" | Apr 18 13:12 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/3947706 | Apr 18 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa #surveillance misused to go after #occupy which #fbi called "terrorism" so we know Islamic terrorism is excuse but not principal threat | Apr 18 13:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/nov/25/shocking-truth-about-crackdown-occupy | Apr 18 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Revealed: how the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/gc05e ] | Apr 18 13:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | The shocking truth about the crackdown on Occupy | Naomi Wolf | Comment is free | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/fuynk ] | Apr 18 13:12 | |
| msb | Sosumi: That gif of the little penguin is great! Amazing it can run that fast on those little legs. | Apr 18 13:13 |
| Sosumi | courtesy of some 4chan denizen | Apr 18 13:14 |
| msb | schestowitz__: Re the Naomi Wolf articles: banks and the stock exchange working with the FBI to coordinate attacks on peaceful protestors whom they labelled as "potential terrorists". When do we call it Fascism? | Apr 18 13:27 |
| msb | Newton's Second Law of Motion, published in 1687, plus the videos of the WTC towers falling, *prove* that they were destroyed by implanted explosives, which Muslim terrorists could not possibly have done. http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911 | Apr 18 13:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For Everyone | Apr 18 13:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | when it's in Italy | Apr 18 13:32 |
| schestowitz__ | then it's called fascism | Apr 18 13:32 |
| schestowitz__ | insinuating that the US is nazi(ionalist) or fascist gets you lumped in with a group that will get you widely discredited | Apr 18 13:33 |
| msb | 2,000,000 people murdered and several nations destroyed using 9/11 as the excuse. Is that fascism? | Apr 18 13:33 |
| msb | What group is that? | Apr 18 13:33 |
| schestowitz__ | among them: "Paul supporter", "white supremacist", "Islamist", "conspiracy theorist", cult member (small religion/minority) | Apr 18 13:34 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3948258 | Apr 18 13:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Has #Banksy finally been caught on camera? http://nypost.com/2014/04/17/has-banksy-finally-been-caught-on-camera/ | Apr 18 13:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> nypost.com | Has Banksy finally been caught on camera? | New York Post [ http://ur1.ca/h407b ] | Apr 18 13:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Wow, this guy's works are awesome ..." | Apr 18 13:36 |
| msb | Fascism is control of government by corporations, and its service of their interests, often violently. | Apr 18 13:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3946576 | Apr 18 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming in January http://www.muktware.com/2014/04/project-ara-build-smartphone-coming-january/25829 #ara #android #linux | Apr 18 13:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.muktware.com | Project Ara build-it-yourself smartphone coming in January | Muktware [ http://ur1.ca/h407m ] | Apr 18 13:37 | |
| schestowitz__ | "block phone copied or licence bought by google ?" | Apr 18 13:37 |
| schestowitz__ | msb: in my mind, fascicism is opposite, gov controls corporations | Apr 18 13:37 |
| schestowitz__ | like Russia more or less, in USSR | Apr 18 13:38 |
| schestowitz__ | "of course ... And here is how a great project is owend by google ... And here is how all of sheeps will buy it and say "Hey Google create something good" ... And once again Google wins something which that could something else than "big bro device"" | Apr 18 13:38 |
| schestowitz__ | "@Wasabi: Well, if it's open to other manufacturers then people can always undercut any overpricing. @Julien: Depends how locked down it is, if it's possible to install a differeny OS, or buy a FOSH baseboard then it might turn out ok." | Apr 18 13:38 |
| schestowitz__ | "The problem is not the OS in fact, because if it is Android, I think Cyanogen will be developed too. and maybe another OS could run on it... no, the problem is essentially hardware finally because managed by google, and driver support could be hard." | Apr 18 13:38 |
| schestowitz__ | "That's what I mean though, if the whole thing is open (like phoneblokks was supposed to be) then couldn't third parties offer open source hardware and drivers? Given the target market I'd imagine they'd be popular." | Apr 18 13:39 |
| schestowitz__ | "yes, we agree" | Apr 18 13:39 |
| msb | schestowitz__: There are many other people saying that the US is fascist other than the groups you mentioned. In fact, the phrases you mentioned are often used to unjustifiably smear honest researchers and advocates. "Conspiracy theorists" is a term invented by the government to discredit JFK assassination researchers. | Apr 18 13:39 |
| msb | "Fascism is Corporatism" -- Mussolini | Apr 18 13:41 |
| msb | Corporations and ultra-wealthy individuals totally control govt by bribery. They bribe the govt to make laws favorable to them. They bribe the govt to invade and destroy nations that have socialistic economies, so the corporations can then go into those nations and exploit the workers there. | Apr 18 13:43 |
| msb | schestowitz__: The fact that some crazy evil people say that something is true does not make it false. To say that it does is a logical fallacy. In this case, it would prevent people from realizing that the US is in fact fascist even when the soldiers are goose-stepping down the streets and shooting people. "Oh no, we can't use the word 'fascism' -- people would associate us with 'conspiracy theorists' and Ron Paul supporters." | Apr 18 13:48 |
| msb | schestowitz__: If most people are mind-controlled by lying media and government propagands, thanks to Edward Bernays -- which they are -- then censoring our ideas and speech based on what most people would think PREVENTS US FROM THINKING ACCURATELY. | Apr 18 13:51 |
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| DFS | Is Roy Spamowitz here? | Apr 18 13:51 |
| ---DFS is now known as Guest36863 | Apr 18 13:51 | |
| Guest36863 | He used to spam comp.os.linux.advocacy with 35-50 NEWS posts per day | Apr 18 13:52 |
| Guest36863 | For 5 years straight | Apr 18 13:52 |
| MinceR | i'm not aware of any person called "Roy Spamowitz" | Apr 18 13:52 |
| Guest36863 | He was a degenerate liar, too. | Apr 18 13:52 |
| Guest36863 | Anyway, Spamowitz now says he's an 'advocate of fair competition' | Apr 18 13:52 |
| MinceR | how does this concern this channel? | Apr 18 13:52 |
| Guest36863 | So, when will Spamowitz begin calling for Linux to put price tags on everything? | Apr 18 13:53 |
| msb | DFS is one of the most active pro-Microsoft anti-Linux posters in comp.os.linux.advocacy. | Apr 18 13:53 |
| MinceR | somehow i suspected that | Apr 18 13:53 |
| Guest36863 | I'm not pro-MS | Apr 18 13:54 |
| Guest36863 | I don't even like them. | Apr 18 13:54 |
| Guest36863 | I like some of their software. | Apr 18 13:54 |
| msb | Apparently he posted first under the nick of "DFS", and then changed to "Guest36863". | Apr 18 13:54 |
| Guest36863 | I didn't change - the channel changed it for me. | Apr 18 13:54 |
| MinceR | he probably didn't identify for DFS | Apr 18 13:54 |
| MinceR | no, the channel did not change it | Apr 18 13:54 |
| MinceR | NickServ changed it. | Apr 18 13:54 |
| Guest36863 | So change it back. | Apr 18 13:54 |
| MinceR | it is none of our concern. | Apr 18 13:55 |
| MinceR | don't you ever read your status/server window? | Apr 18 13:55 |
| Guest36863 | It was flashing by/ jumping around | Apr 18 13:55 |
| msb | DFS routinely refers to Roy as "Spamowitz". | Apr 18 13:55 |
| Guest36863 | So, when will the 'advocate of fair competition' begin calling for price tags on Linux distros and apps? | Apr 18 13:56 |
| Guest36863 | Never, that's when. | Apr 18 13:56 |
| MinceR | why should any advocate of fair competition begin calling for that? | Apr 18 13:56 |
| Guest36863 | Extremely stupid question. | Apr 18 13:56 |
| msb | Which means that he can't answer it. | Apr 18 13:57 |
| MinceR | you'll need to adjust that attitude of yours, Guest36863. | Apr 18 13:57 |
| Guest36863 | Fair competition would require Linux distros/apps to charge similar prices as those found on commercial software products. | Apr 18 13:57 |
| MinceR | no, it would not. | Apr 18 13:57 |
| Guest36863 | Yes, it would. | Apr 18 13:57 |
| cubezzz | http://www.osdisc.com has been selling DVDs and CDs for years | Apr 18 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.osdisc.com | OSDisc.com - Buy Linux CDs and DVDs - New Releases. Low Prices. | Apr 18 13:57 | |
| MinceR | fair competition is not the same as command economy. | Apr 18 13:57 |
| Guest36863 | Giving your code away for free is extremely uncompetitive. | Apr 18 13:57 |
| MinceR | it's not exactly that, though | Apr 18 13:57 |
| Guest36863 | Funny that Linux can't even be given away. | Apr 18 13:58 |
| msb | People create GNU/Linux/FOSS out of enjoyment and generosity and therefore give it away for free. | Apr 18 13:58 |
| MinceR | users contribute in exchange for the software -- bug reports, code fixes/patches, etc. | Apr 18 13:58 |
| Guest36863 | Add a price tag and watch the howls... | Apr 18 13:58 |
| *MinceR adds a price tag saying "0" | Apr 18 13:58 | |
| *MinceR waits for the howls | Apr 18 13:58 | |
| msb | I used to buy Suse boxed sets. | Apr 18 13:58 |
| Guest36863 | But you didn't pay nearly the equivalent of the commercial code. | Apr 18 13:59 |
| MinceR | i also didn't receive the equivalent of the commercial code, thankfully | Apr 18 13:59 |
| cubezzz | you can charge for discs, manuals, etc | Apr 18 13:59 |
| MinceR | as the code you're advertising is of horribly low quality. | Apr 18 13:59 |
| cubezzz | there's no rule saying you can't | Apr 18 13:59 |
| msb | DFS has been spamming COLA for many years. He will never change his mind. He's probably paid by Microsoft. | Apr 18 13:59 |
| Guest36863 | If they create GNU/LInux/FOSS out of generosity, why do most projects ask for donations? | Apr 18 13:59 |
| Guest36863 | Only Spamowitz spammed cola with off-topic NEWS.. 5 years straight | Apr 18 14:00 |
| msb | People have found proof that Microsoft has employees posting to various FOSS forums. | Apr 18 14:00 |
| MinceR | why is news off-topic on COLA? | Apr 18 14:00 |
| Guest36863 | of 35-50 posts per day. Full of lies and deceit. | Apr 18 14:00 |
| msb | Full of great information. | Apr 18 14:00 |
| Guest36863 | If MS does have people posting to forums, so what? | Apr 18 14:00 |
| MinceR | and why do i get the suspicion that what you call "lies and deceit" were merely facts that were inconvenient to microsoft munchkins? | Apr 18 14:01 |
| msb | I wish Roy would start it again. | Apr 18 14:01 |
| Guest36863 | They ought to pay people to counter the lies of Linux idiots. | Apr 18 14:01 |
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| MinceR | no, they paid people to masquerade as grassroots support for microsoft. | Apr 18 14:01 |
| Guest36863 | So? | Apr 18 14:01 |
| MinceR | that's the "lies and deceit" you're looking for. | Apr 18 14:01 |
| cubezzz | astro turfing you mean | Apr 18 14:01 |
| Guest36863 | Who pays Linux "advocates" to lie about MS and Windows? | Apr 18 14:01 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 18 14:01 |
| MinceR | GNU/Linux advocates do not need to lie about m$ and windows, as both are atrocious enough as they are. | Apr 18 14:02 |
| msb | "If MS does have people posting to forums, so what?" The problem is that they don't SAY they work for Microsoft, and are posting to increase MS's profits. | Apr 18 14:02 |
| Guest36863 | They don't need to lie about them, but they do it anyway. | Apr 18 14:02 |
| MinceR | again, what makes this relevant to this channel? | Apr 18 14:02 |
| msb | Nothing. He'll just do it until somebody blocks him. | Apr 18 14:03 |
| Guest36863 | Anyway, my social visit was to ask Spamowitz - the 'advocate of fair competition' - why he doesn't spend years calling for Linux distros and apps to attach a reasonable price tag? | Apr 18 14:03 |
| MinceR | i believe there's no person called "Spamowitz" here | Apr 18 14:03 |
| Guest36863 | Pass the message onto him for me. Watch him run. | Apr 18 14:03 |
| MinceR | nobody of that name responded | Apr 18 14:04 |
| MinceR | looks like you're looking in the wrong place. | Apr 18 14:04 |
| msb | In a free market, people set the prices of their products as they please. | Apr 18 14:04 |
| Guest36863 | There's no M$ or 'munchkins' either. | Apr 18 14:04 |
| Guest36863 | So what are you whining about? | Apr 18 14:04 |
| MinceR | except for people like you, yes | Apr 18 14:04 |
| msb | There are other forms of income than money, such as the satisfaction of helping other people. | Apr 18 14:05 |
| Guest36863 | If that's all they're looking for, why do they ask for donations? | Apr 18 14:05 |
| msb | DFS is a psychopath and has no empathy, so he doesn't know about that. | Apr 18 14:05 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: this might be surprising to you, but despite what bill gates believes, not all software development happens solely in the interest of profits. | Apr 18 14:05 |
| Guest36863 | How would you know what Gates believes? | Apr 18 14:06 |
| MinceR | from his public letter to "hobbyists" | Apr 18 14:06 |
| MinceR | but you haven't read that either, have you? | Apr 18 14:06 |
| Guest36863 | He, MS and Windows have done so much more for the world than 'Free software' will do in 1000 lifetimes. | Apr 18 14:06 |
| MinceR | free software will indeed never do nearly so much harm as he did | Apr 18 14:07 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: so why are you advertising m$ here anyway? what's in it for you? | Apr 18 14:07 |
| MinceR | do they pay you? | Apr 18 14:07 |
| Guest36863 | So much harm that the world runs to MS throwing $80 billion a year at them. | Apr 18 14:07 |
| MinceR | or have you merely made an ill-thought investment in them and aren't willing to learn anything else? | Apr 18 14:07 |
| MinceR | yes, m$ corruption and market manipulation has led to them extorting a lot of money from people and states | Apr 18 14:08 |
| Guest36863 | Same idiocy found in the tiny brains of all FOSS wackos: "MS is paying you", "your job is threatened by Linux", blah blah | Apr 18 14:08 |
| MinceR | for example, the hungarian government pays them a lot for crap they hand to students and lie that they're gratis | Apr 18 14:08 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: you still haven't answered any questions. | Apr 18 14:08 |
| Guest36863 | What questions? | Apr 18 14:09 |
| MinceR | the ones i asked you | Apr 18 14:09 |
| msb | Microsoft has never, and probably will never, produce software that assists and augments human thought processes as effectively as GNU/Linux does. | Apr 18 14:09 |
| Guest36863 | MS isn't paying me. | Apr 18 14:09 |
| MinceR | so, cognitive dissonance, then? | Apr 18 14:09 |
| MinceR | or just plain old brain damage? | Apr 18 14:09 |
| Guest36863 | 'assists and augments human thought processes'.... BWAHA!!! | Apr 18 14:10 |
| Guest36863 | What kind of nutjobs are you people? | Apr 18 14:10 |
| MinceR | msb: i think your words are confusing his tiny mind | Apr 18 14:10 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: yes, what kind of nutjob are you? | Apr 18 14:10 |
| msb | " <Guest36863> If MS does have people posting to forums, so what?" | Apr 18 14:10 |
| Guest36863 | Hey, I bet both you dunces (msb and MinceR) have Windows jobs... most 'Linux advocates' do. | Apr 18 14:11 |
| msb | He as much as admitted it right there. | Apr 18 14:11 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: that's a bet you'd lose | Apr 18 14:11 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: so, do you have any job at all? | Apr 18 14:11 |
| msb | I think he's doing his job right now, right here. | Apr 18 14:11 |
| cubezzz | I use a bunch of different operating sytems | Apr 18 14:12 |
| Guest36863 | What does it matter whether I have a Windows job, a Linux job, or no job? | Apr 18 14:12 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: if it doesn't matter, why do you ask us about it? | Apr 18 14:12 |
| Guest36863 | What matters is when will Spamowitz - the 'advocate of fair competition' - call for LInux to begin competing fairly? | Apr 18 14:12 |
| MinceR | Guest36863: does a windows advocate have a windows job? | Apr 18 14:12 |
| Guest36863 | So? | Apr 18 14:12 |
| MinceR | yeah, so? | Apr 18 14:13 |
| cubezzz | windows user, what a surprise | Apr 18 14:13 |
| Guest36863 | When will it happen that the 'advocate of fair competition' actually advocates fair competition? | Apr 18 14:13 |
| Guest36863 | Never, that's for sure. | Apr 18 14:13 |
| MinceR | it happens all the time | Apr 18 14:13 |
| Guest36863 | Anyway, tell Spamowitz I dropped by and called out his lies and idiocy. | Apr 18 14:14 |
| MinceR | then again, i wouldn't expect a m$ munchkin to have any idea of what "fair competition" is | Apr 18 14:14 |
| msb | Obviously MS is worried about the increasing adoption of GNU/Linux, even though the price of most computers that people buy already includes a payment to MS for Windows, even if the purchaser never uses Windows. | Apr 18 14:14 |
| MinceR | it being anathema to m$, apparently | Apr 18 14:14 |
| cubezzz | sure, whatever mr anonymous 3848592 | Apr 18 14:15 |
| msb | DFS and about ten other MS spammers have totally trashed COLA for years, and made it useless as a Linux forum. | Apr 18 14:15 |
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| MinceR | strange, he gave up | Apr 18 14:18 |
| MinceR | didn't get enough gratis licences for m$ crap this month? | Apr 18 14:18 |
| cubezzz | ok, I was going to kick him but I can't remember how to get ops | Apr 18 14:18 |
| msb | I have never used MS-Windows. Around 1984 I made a terminal emulator in BASIC that I ran under PC-DOS on my 8088 IBM-PC and used it to communicate with a BSD Unix system at a local university. Around 2000 I switched to Linux.. | Apr 18 14:19 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: /cs op #techrights | Apr 18 14:19 |
| MinceR | or /chanserv op #techrights | Apr 18 14:19 |
| MinceR | or /quote chanserv op #techrights | Apr 18 14:19 |
| ---ChanServ gives channel operator status to cubezzz | Apr 18 14:19 | |
| MinceR | or /raw chanserv op #techrights | Apr 18 14:19 |
| cubezzz | yay | Apr 18 14:19 |
| MinceR | msg works too, but is less secure :) | Apr 18 14:19 |
| cubezzz | I can't believe I didn't write that down | Apr 18 14:19 |
| MinceR | (some scripts seem to use msg with a full nick!user@host spec, that's probably more secure than plain msg) | Apr 18 14:20 |
| cubezzz | you're more patient that me MinceR | Apr 18 14:20 |
| cubezzz | I think I would have kicked him out sooner | Apr 18 14:20 |
| msb | MinceR: Your little person-picture in the Konversation nick list is bold, so I think that means you are already an op. | Apr 18 14:20 |
| MinceR | not really, i've asked Roy if i should remove him :> | Apr 18 14:21 |
| MinceR | msb: i am but cubezzz wanted to know how to get op | Apr 18 14:21 |
| msb | Right. | Apr 18 14:21 |
| cubezzz | oh well, so much for today's excitement | Apr 18 14:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 18 14:22 |
| cubezzz | I didn't really understand his arguments | Apr 18 14:22 |
| msb | Debating a shit-hole like that does clarify one's own thoughts on the subject. | Apr 18 14:22 |
| cubezzz | I knew he'd be a windows person :) | Apr 18 14:23 |
| msb | Nobody could understand his arguments, because they were totally bogus. | Apr 18 14:23 |
| cubezzz | duh, I only know how to use one operating system | Apr 18 14:23 |
| cubezzz | I didn't get the chance to ask him if he compiles his kernel | Apr 18 14:23 |
| msb | His arguments were predicated on lies. | Apr 18 14:24 |
| cubezzz | that's my favourite anti-troll comment | Apr 18 14:24 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 18 14:24 |
| MinceR | are you sure he knows what a "kernel" is? :> | Apr 18 14:24 |
| cubezzz | am I sure? no | Apr 18 14:25 |
| msb | Not only doesn't he compile his own kernel (which I don't either, but I could), but he doesn't examine his own mind. So he has no free will. He's not really conscious. | Apr 18 14:26 |
| cubezzz | it's like not knowing how to cook | Apr 18 14:27 |
| *MinceR doesn't know how to cook | Apr 18 14:27 | |
| cubezzz | so you eat fast food all the time... it's not healthy | Apr 18 14:27 |
| MinceR | not all the time | Apr 18 14:28 |
| msb | Psychopaths can't reconcile their thoughts and behavior with what they know is necessary for human survival and success. So they can't examine their ideas and motives. It would create too much cognitive dissonance. | Apr 18 14:28 |
| MinceR | not even most of the time | Apr 18 14:28 |
| cubezzz | just make mrproper, make menuconfig and pick what you want | Apr 18 14:29 |
| MinceR | cooking doesn't work that way :> | Apr 18 14:29 |
| cubezzz | cooking is like programming... | Apr 18 14:29 |
| msb | Asian fast food can be excellent. | Apr 18 14:29 |
| MinceR | yeah, i had chinese once this week | Apr 18 14:30 |
| cubezzz | no one goes around saying "you can't use that recipe for apple pie" | Apr 18 14:30 |
| cubezzz | it's just stupid | Apr 18 14:30 |
| msb | There's a great Chinese place near me, and they deliver! | Apr 18 14:30 |
| MinceR | well, if m$ got into the food business, they would | Apr 18 14:30 |
| cubezzz | but for some reason, people put up with closed source | Apr 18 14:30 |
| msb | A. Most people don't know much about computing. B. Microsoft spends huge amount of money on lying adverts to deceive people. | Apr 18 14:31 |
| cubezzz | msb, you're old enough to know about the pre-windows and pre-microsoft era | Apr 18 14:32 |
| cubezzz | there was sharing of code... | Apr 18 14:32 |
| msb | Teriyaki, that was it! There was a wonderful Japanese teryaki fast-food place in San Francisco I used to go to all the time. | Apr 18 14:32 |
| cubezzz | on BBSes and even usenet | Apr 18 14:33 |
| msb | cubezzz: yes. I used to see lots of sharing of Unix code on Usenet through my Unix account. | Apr 18 14:33 |
| msb | A lot of it was archived on Simtel20 at White Sands AFB (or whatever it was). | Apr 18 14:34 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3944638 | Apr 18 14:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **"Driving" in style**  #gif | Apr 18 14:35 | |
| msb | You got it not by ftp, there was some other protocol, which I forget. | Apr 18 14:35 |
| schestowitz__ | "I guess I want to see those legs make like the roadrunner. But then I guess that should have been a Plymouth Roadrunner he pulled up next to." | Apr 18 14:35 |
| cubezzz | not to mention a lot of magazines published source code listings | Apr 18 14:35 |
| cubezzz | Dr Dobb's published the source for Tiny BASIC in 1975 | Apr 18 14:36 |
| cubezzz | msb, uucp? | Apr 18 14:36 |
| msb | There was a format for publishing source code in Usenet articles. It wasn't compressed, but had some extra characters for getting whitespace right. | Apr 18 14:37 |
| MinceR | uuencode? | Apr 18 14:37 |
| msb | cubezzz: I remember uucp, but that was a lower-level protocol. | Apr 18 14:37 |
| cubezzz | and the DECUS tapes, I've tapped into that | Apr 18 14:38 |
| cubezzz | some good stuff in there | Apr 18 14:38 |
| msb | MinceR: yes, I think my terminal would do uuencode and uudecode, but this was something else. I thing wget may still do it. | Apr 18 14:38 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 18 14:39 |
| cubezzz | I think ftp predates even tcp/ip | Apr 18 14:40 |
| cubezzz | it used NCP, which was the precursor of tcp/ip | Apr 18 14:40 |
| msb | This was another protocol for wandering around in a directory structure and downloading what you wanted. But I can't remember the name! | Apr 18 14:41 |
| cubezzz | not gopher? | Apr 18 14:41 |
| cubezzz | WAIS? | Apr 18 14:42 |
| msb | Maybe it was gopher. That feels kind of close to it. | Apr 18 14:42 |
| msb | So long ago... | Apr 18 14:43 |
| MinceR | "When Massachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy learned of BBN's accomplishment in signing this million-dollar agreement, he sent a telegram congratulating the company for being contracted to build the "Interfaith Message Processor"." | Apr 18 14:45 |
| MinceR | i lol'd | Apr 18 14:45 |
| cubezzz | doh | Apr 18 14:45 |
| msb | Gopher still has its adherents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopher_%28protocol%29 | Apr 18 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gopher (protocol) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/h40ts ] | Apr 18 14:48 | |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 18 14:48 |
| MinceR | http://port70.net/ | Apr 18 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-port70.net | Gopher: | Apr 18 14:48 | |
| msb | "The master Gopherspace search engine is Veronica. Veronica offers a keyword search of all the public Internet Gopher server menu titles. " | Apr 18 14:49 |
| MinceR | " name derives from the word "archive" without the v. Alan Emtage has said that contrary to popular belief, there was no association with the Archie Comics and that he despised them.[5] Despite this, other early Internet search technologies such as Jughead and Veronica were named after characters from the comics." | Apr 18 14:50 |
| MinceR | another funny tidbit | Apr 18 14:50 |
| MinceR | also, there was a "The" at the beginning that i've managed to not select. | Apr 18 14:50 |
| cubezzz | that Archie guy never ages | Apr 18 14:51 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 18 14:51 |
| cubezzz | he's been in high school for over 70 years | Apr 18 14:51 |
| msb | "The master Gopherspace search engine" -- gives the impression of an enormous gopher who knows everything in the worldwide system of gopher tunnels. | Apr 18 14:53 |
| MinceR | but can't fit in them, as it's enormous :> | Apr 18 14:54 |
| msb | Gophers played an important part in the very funny movie Caddyshack (1980) with Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, and Rodney Dangerfield. Definitely worth watching. | Apr 18 14:55 |
| msb | It can be found in that most naughty of naughty places, YIFY. | Apr 18 14:56 |
| msb | Or so I once heard. | Apr 18 14:57 |
| MinceR | yify? sounds naughty | Apr 18 14:57 |
| msb | Yes, it is full of extreme naughtiness, high-res x264 encoded in very small file size. | Apr 18 15:00 |
| msb | Or so people say. | Apr 18 15:00 |
| msb | The IMDB trivia for Caddyshack is very interesting, but read it only after watching the movie. | Apr 18 15:05 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.openpr.com/news/285689/Red-Hat-Enables-Cloud-Flexibility-with-Red-Hat-Enterprise-Linux-and-Google-Compute-Engine.html?SID=f1224f888df02a237f8c68d213ac47e3 | Apr 18 15:15 |
| schestowitz__ | "Tim Yeaton, senior vice president, Infrastructure Group, Red Hat" | Apr 18 15:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openpr.com | openPR.com - Press release - Red Hat Inc. - Red Hat Enables Cloud Flexibility with Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Google Compute Engine [ http://ur1.ca/h4125 ] | Apr 18 15:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | Foermerly Black Duck | Apr 18 15:15 |
| schestowitz__ | and RHAT before that | Apr 18 15:15 |
| schestowitz__ | now RHT | Apr 18 15:15 |
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| cubezzz | ok, I've updated my basic linux notes | Apr 18 15:49 |
| cubezzz | http://www.cubeman.org/basic-linux.txt | Apr 18 15:50 |
| msb | This is scary: http://www.naturalnews.com/044778_artificial_intelligence_extinction_humankind.html | Apr 18 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.naturalnews.com | Scientists warn the rise of AI will lead to extinction of humankind [ http://ur1.ca/h41i6 ] | Apr 18 15:55 | |
| cubezzz | lol | Apr 18 15:55 |
| cubezzz | not scary to me | Apr 18 15:55 |
| cubezzz | since our AI really sucks :) | Apr 18 15:55 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure that the extinction of humankind would be such a bad thing | Apr 18 15:55 |
| msb | Laugh while you can, Monkey boy. | Apr 18 15:56 |
| MinceR | that's ape, not monkey. | Apr 18 15:56 |
| MinceR | also ballmer is Monkey Boy. | Apr 18 15:56 |
| cubezzz | I have way less hair that either :) | Apr 18 15:56 |
| cubezzz | than even | Apr 18 15:56 |
| msb | It's a line from Buckaroo Banzai, another very good movie, but not a comedy. | Apr 18 15:57 |
| MinceR | i haven't seen it yet | Apr 18 15:57 |
| cubezzz | if I see robots lurching around everywhere then I might get a bit nervous | Apr 18 15:57 |
| cubezzz | but all I see are roombas :) | Apr 18 15:58 |
| MinceR | roombas are robots | Apr 18 15:58 |
| MinceR | and they were seen carrying cats around | Apr 18 15:58 |
| schestowitz__ | yikes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Mono_3.4 http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/770237-fedora-21-gets-gnome-312-php-56-mono-34/ | Apr 18 15:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoraproject.org | Changes/Mono 3.4 - FedoraProject [ http://ur1.ca/h41k3 ] | Apr 18 15:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Fedora 21 Gets GNOME 3.12, PHP 5.6, Mono 3.4 | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/h41k4 ] | Apr 18 15:59 | |
| schestowitz__ | hopefully not by default | Apr 18 15:59 |
| MinceR | http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2473590/cat-on-roomba-driver-o.gif | Apr 18 15:59 |
| MinceR | and so falls fedora | Apr 18 15:59 |
| cubezzz | see, this is why I study older stuff | Apr 18 16:00 |
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| MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/catsridingroombas/ | Apr 18 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Cats riding motherfucking roombas [ http://ur1.ca/h41kv ] | Apr 18 16:01 | |
| cubezzz | ha, there was hercules support in bl3 | Apr 18 16:02 |
| cubezzz | xmono.tgz | Apr 18 16:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 wows through subtlety | Apr 18 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/c53luTnsIj | Apr 18 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h41lq | Apr 18 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 wows through subtlety | Tux Machines | Apr 18 16:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04 will power “first commercially | Apr 18 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | available Ubuntu tablets” | Apr 18 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/tZhE0ibnHM | Apr 18 16:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/h41lr | Apr 18 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04 will power “first commercially available Ubuntu tablets” | Tux Machines | Apr 18 16:03 | |
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| msb | The important thing is that AI will not lead to the extinction of cats. Apparently they have a symbiotic relationship. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cat+roomba | Apr 18 16:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | cat roomba - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h41u6 ] | Apr 18 16:20 | |
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| MinceR | :) | Apr 18 16:21 |
| MinceR | or should i say... | Apr 18 16:21 |
| MinceR | :3 | Apr 18 16:21 |
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| Sosumi | http://www.tomsguide.com/us/samsung-galaxy-s5-fingerprint-hack,news-18655.html | Apr 18 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomsguide.com | Samsung Galaxy S5's Fingerprint Scanner Hacked [ http://ur1.ca/h41xz ] | Apr 18 16:35 | |
| Sosumi | just like the hypephone | Apr 18 16:35 |
| MinceR | it always was just security theater | Apr 18 16:35 |
| MinceR | or even less | Apr 18 16:35 |
| Sosumi | a gimmick and in no way seller for cigar cutters | Apr 18 16:36 |
| Sosumi | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/04/psa-dozens-of-games-available-for-99-cents-each-on-psn-this-weekend/ | Apr 18 16:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | PSA: Dozens of games available for 99 cents each on PSN this weekend | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/h421v ] | Apr 18 16:53 | |
| Sosumi | lol sony trouncing m$ | Apr 18 16:53 |
| Sosumi | too bad that the games seem meh | Apr 18 16:57 |
| Sosumi | or is it me that is biased towards quake 3 arena | Apr 18 16:58 |
| Sosumi | and those fast arena shooters | Apr 18 16:58 |
| Sosumi | of which no one makes anymore | Apr 18 16:58 |
| Sosumi | gn | Apr 18 16:58 |
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| cubezzz | ok msb_ you might find this interesting | Apr 18 20:10 |
| cubezzz | the video card glitch happened, so I tried the idea of using /sbin/modprobe vga16fb to see if I could make the text console visible | Apr 18 20:13 |
| cubezzz | it worked but it needed two steps | Apr 18 20:13 |
| cubezzz | first change from radeon to vesa driver in xorg.conf | Apr 18 20:13 |
| cubezzz | then /sbin/modprobe vga16fb | Apr 18 20:13 |
| cubezzz | then change from vesa back to radeon | Apr 18 20:13 |
| cubezzz | poof.... text console works :) | Apr 18 20:14 |
| cubezzz | first time I've ever been able to make the text console visible after the glitch happened | Apr 18 20:14 |
| cubezzz | also I can manifest the glitch on demand now | Apr 18 20:19 |
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| msb | cubezzz: How did you do all this if the video card wasn't giving you a readable display? Come in on the network from another computer, as root? | Apr 18 21:11 |
| msb | cubezzz: Or was X working, even while the text console was messed up? | Apr 18 21:12 |
| cubezzz | msb_ yes that's it | Apr 18 23:00 |
| cubezzz | X is fine and viewable, only the text console is corrupted | Apr 18 23:00 |
| cubezzz | but at least now I have a way to fix it | Apr 18 23:01 |
| cubezzz | there doesn't seem to be any way to rmmod vga16fb | Apr 18 23:06 |
| msb | cubezzz: After you do this, isn't your system using vga16fb for the text console? | Apr 19 00:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Valve Has Turned On The Greenlight For 34 More | Apr 19 07:52 |
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| msb | MinceR: Hi! | Apr 19 08:38 |
| msb | Fascism marches on: http://www.activistpost.com/2014/04/kill-switch-included-on-all-cell-phones.html | Apr 19 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.activistpost.com | Activist Post: ‘Kill Switch’ Included on All Cell Phones Made in U.S. by 2015 [ http://ur1.ca/h49ne ] | Apr 19 08:38 | |
| MinceR | what's even sadder, it will probably appear in cell phones made elsewhere, too | Apr 19 08:39 |
| msb | All those little black objects that people were holding up at the Bundy Ranch encounter with federal troops were cell phones, recording the troops' actions. | Apr 19 08:40 |
| msb | Now cops and feds and any govt will be able to wipe those pix and videos instantly so they can't be used as evidence. | Apr 19 08:40 |
| MinceR | i don't quite understand how "required" and "voluntary" go together in this case, though | Apr 19 08:41 |
| msb | I don't know, but all the phone mfrs are apparently in on it. Now you'd think they'd be against that "anti-theft" measure, because if someone's phone is stolen, they're just gonna buy another one. Ka-ching! | Apr 19 08:42 |
| msb | Let's hope someone makes an open-source phone, or one that can be rooted, and this can be fixed by users. | Apr 19 08:44 |
| msb | As it is now, cops have to be very careful. The *only* times they get convicted is when someone records their beating/shooting on a cell-phone. | Apr 19 08:46 |
| msb | And more and more people have them. | Apr 19 08:46 |
| msb | Damn! Yahoo cut off all my list mail ten days ago because some mail bounced at some time, and hasn't sent me anything. For all I know, the Earth could have ascended into the Fifth Dimension. | Apr 19 09:21 |
| msb | It's fascism all over again, I tell ya! | Apr 19 09:22 |
| MinceR | it's bad idea to rely on yahoo anyway | Apr 19 09:23 |
| msb | Well, I was still getting stuff from a few non-yahoo lists. | Apr 19 09:24 |
| msb | But most lists moved to yahoo years ago. It's the only way to access them. | Apr 19 09:24 |
| MinceR | anyone could run their own lists on their own server(s) via mailman, for example | Apr 19 09:25 |
| MinceR | there's no need to give the opportunity to cut anyone off to a microsoft shell company. | Apr 19 09:25 |
| msb | Aggh! Yahoo is owned by MS?? | Apr 19 09:26 |
| MinceR | not sure if they're owned by m$, but they serve m$ | Apr 19 09:26 |
| msb | How? | Apr 19 09:27 |
| MinceR | their "search engine" is nothing but a front end to bìng, for example | Apr 19 09:27 |
| msb | I just use google, a front end to the CIA. | Apr 19 09:27 |
| MinceR | not to the nsa? | Apr 19 09:28 |
| MinceR | also, you can achieve further isolation from google via startpage and/or tor | Apr 19 09:28 |
| msb | You're right, sorry. Got my TLAs confused. | Apr 19 09:28 |
| msb | With my website, trying to hide is useless. | Apr 19 09:28 |
| MinceR | you could still deprive them of some information, though | Apr 19 09:29 |
| msb | Nothing that would do me any good. | Apr 19 09:30 |
| msb | MinceR: The possible future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQMAGT-3wx4 | Apr 19 09:33 |
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| msb | MinceR: Hopefully you're not at work and can listen to it. | Apr 19 09:34 |
| MinceR | ic | Apr 19 09:40 |
| msb | MinceR: That's the future we want to *prevent*. | Apr 19 09:56 |
| msb | MinceR: Have you lived through that kind of thing? | Apr 19 09:57 |
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| cubeman_ | msb_, yeah it must be | Apr 19 10:05 |
| cubeman_ | brb | Apr 19 10:05 |
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| cubezzz | also I don't seem to have any mouse access using vga16fb | Apr 19 10:07 |
| msb | cubezzz: hey, could I phone you on xxx-x218? | Apr 19 10:08 |
| cubezzz | it would be a long distance call | Apr 19 10:08 |
| msb | cubezzz: I have free LD to there. | Apr 19 10:09 |
| cubezzz | ok | Apr 19 10:09 |
| MinceR | msb: not yet | Apr 19 10:10 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/history-of-x.txt | Apr 19 10:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Two new features coming to Chromebooks | Apr 19 10:39 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | And that is me finished for the day. Yet again I’ve neglected my writing and tomorrow I’ll hopefully be recording for the TechBytes show (as well as having a day of football viewing) – so thats another day lost. For those interested TechBytes is part of a collaborative work under the BytesMedia umbrella. You can visit the site here: http://www.bytesmedia.co.uk .https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3951927 | Apr 19 11:39 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Alot of sites do that now. Combined with how much flash player slows computers and the lack of analog volume controls on modern PCs and it's a recipe for disaster." | Apr 19 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bytesmedia.co.uk | Bytes Media - Sites Index | Apr 19 11:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nytimes started this very annoying thing which is auto-playing videos. Load a page and it may then cause embarrassment in a public place. | Apr 19 11:39 | |
| cubezzz | yeah flash kind of sucks | Apr 19 12:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I don't need it, but Androiud | Apr 19 13:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | included it by default | Apr 19 13:38 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullrun_(decryption_program) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/09/crucial-unanswered-questions-about-nsa-bullrun-program | Apr 19 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bullrun (decryption program) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/h4d26 ] | Apr 19 14:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Revealed: how US and UK spy agencies defeat internet privacy and security | World news | Guardian Weekly [ http://ur1.ca/fe498 ] | Apr 19 14:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Crucial Unanswered Questions about the NSA's BULLRUN Program | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/fgbam ] | Apr 19 14:12 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "There are real NSA programs designed to weaken encryption standards and specific implementations but Orchestra is a fictional operation imagined by Poul-Henning Kamp. Kamp was using the imagined program as a way of explaining otherwise inexplicable behavior and to propose concerted effort to clean up stuff like OpenSSL. Bullrun [2, 3] is an example of a program specifically designed to weaken encryption in the way Kamp was | Apr 19 14:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | talking about." | Apr 19 14:12 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | It might be trademarked. Either way, guess who grabbed the domain and comemercialised it? it's not the man from Google. He even gave money he got to the proxy that funds WIKILEAKS :-) | Apr 19 14:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat CEO Outlines Linux Growth Strategy | Tux Machines | Apr 19 14:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines XP shutdown: Switch to free software, say FSMI | Apr 19 14:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | activists http://t.co/XVX776cjs7 | Apr 19 14:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | XP shutdown: Switch to free software, say FSMI activists | Tux Machines | Apr 19 14:17 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3951079 | Apr 19 14:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **Scientology Has a Dirty Little Secret. And L. Ron Hubbard’s Great-Grandson Just Exposed It. | Mobiledia** - http://www.mobiledia.com/news/191386.html | Apr 19 14:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.mobiledia.com | Scientology Has a Dirty Little Secret. And L. Ron Hubbard’s Great-Grandson Just Exposed It. | Mobiledia [ http://ur1.ca/h4d4w ] | Apr 19 14:19 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Scientology is a bunch of ridiculous BS without ANY sense. Also, if you read about all of that crap then it becomes clear that the guy had a serious mental illness, was deluded, or just was a great prankster with Sci-Fi twist." | Apr 19 14:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | A lot of bigger religions with broader following are equally ridiculous, just like their prophets or originators. | Apr 19 14:19 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3949149 | Apr 19 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: **The JOY of Easter**   #easter #gif | Apr 19 14:20 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Hahah, the first pic blew my mind. Superfunny!" | Apr 19 14:20 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3952428 | Apr 19 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared:  | Apr 19 14:20 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Still more credible than the bible..." | Apr 19 14:20 |
| cubezzz | lol, scary | Apr 19 14:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 19 14:25 |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, if you're still around you may appreciate this: | Apr 19 14:58 |
| cubezzz | http://www.emulators.com/docs/nx02_standards.htm | Apr 19 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.emulators.com | NO EXECUTE! Sep. 10 2007 [ http://ur1.ca/h4djj ] | Apr 19 14:58 | |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3953268 | Apr 19 15:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Deaths monetiser #EliLilly asks politicians to help it profit from deaths using extortionate monopolies (patents) http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140416/12350326936/eli-lilly-enlists-us-representatives-fight-against-canada-refusing-patent-useless-drug.shtml | Apr 19 15:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Eli Lilly Enlists Congress In Fight Against Canada For Refusing Patent On Useless Drug | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/h3tza ] | Apr 19 15:49 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I'm not in favour of having any IP anymore, but the "useful" requirement seems to be the least important one of the three to me. If they ditched it altogether and actually applied "original" and "non-obvious" I wouldn't be at all upset: If the patent is useful then they'll be able to licence it If it's non-useful then noone will want to licence it anyway" | Apr 19 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtHmKLHtZvg | Apr 19 15:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Richard Stallman interview pt2, Windows and Apple rob privacy (15July13) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/h4e6a ] | Apr 19 15:53 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | cubezzz: it's very long, which part is most relevant? | Apr 19 15:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OpenMandriva RC1 is released! | Apr 19 16:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines For Red Hat, it's RHEL and then…? | Apr 19 16:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva RC1 is released! | Tux Machines | Apr 19 16:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | For Red Hat, it's RHEL and then…? | Tux Machines | Apr 19 16:02 | |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, it's very interesting, a microsoft guy was criticizing microsoft | Apr 19 18:33 |
| cubezzz | I worked at Microsoft at a time when the company had pretty much taken the market share away from Lotus 1-2-3, Word Perfect, and dBase. By the mid-1990's, Microsoft all but owned the word processing and spreadsheet spaces. And with that control it regularly modified the file formats for applications such as Word and Excel, and even Outlook and PowerPoint. The Office file formats change just about every 2 or 3 years and I have lost track of how many uniq | Apr 19 18:33 |
| cubezzz | ue Office file formats there have been. | Apr 19 18:33 |
| cubezzz | After owning over 90% of the word processor and spreadsheet market they apparently started to assume that all their customers would just blindly upgrade Microsoft Office every year | Apr 19 18:34 |
| cubezzz | this from a former Microsoft guy | Apr 19 18:35 |
| cubezzz | he even uses the same terminology I used... | Apr 19 18:37 |
| cubezzz | the "Dark Ages" of personal computing | Apr 19 18:37 |
| cubezzz | although I disagree when the Dark Ages happened | Apr 19 18:37 |
| cubezzz | he says 2000 to 2005 | Apr 19 18:37 |
| cubezzz | I'd say it's more like 1995 to 2003 | Apr 19 18:38 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure if it's over yet | Apr 19 18:44 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Microsoft people have to start planning an exit | Apr 19 18:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | or they will die along with MS | Apr 19 18:47 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't mind if they did | Apr 19 18:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3953316 | Apr 19 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Microsoft Abandons #Windows 8.1: Take Immediate Action Or Be Cut Off Like #WindowsXP http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/04/15/microsoft-abandons-windows-8-1-take-immediate-action-or-be-cut-off-like-windows-xp/ http://techrights.org/2014/04/18/crackers-and-windows/ | Apr 19 18:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.forbes.com | Microsoft Abandons Windows 8.1: Take Immediate Action Or Be Cut Off Like Windows XP - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/h4eld ] | Apr 19 18:47 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "@Sean: I only need windows temporarily for a programming thing. I'm thinking of ditching it once it's done. | Apr 19 18:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft is Leaving Windows — Including Vista 8.1 — Vulnerable to Non-Government Crackers, Not Only to NSA | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/h4elf ] | Apr 19 18:47 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "I only use it to write for my Ph.D. program. There are some style requirements and compatibility issues that I cannot solve with LibreOffice. So having it as something I bring up only when needed while preserving my Linux environment is perfect. And yes, I've repeatedly tried running Office under Wine. I've failed every time." | Apr 19 18:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Older versions should work | Apr 19 18:48 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3951994 | Apr 19 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Forget Dropbox: #BitTorrent Sync Allows You To Skip the Cloud Entirely http://betabeat.com/2014/04/forget-dropbox-bittorrent-sync-allows-you-to-skip-the-cloud-entirely/ move your files away from #prism this Easter | Apr 19 18:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> betabeat.com | Forget Dropbox: BitTorrent Sync Allows You To Skip the Cloud Entirely | Betabeat [ http://ur1.ca/h4dzy ] | Apr 19 18:48 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "true dat, about time they open up the sources, as they promised" | Apr 19 18:48 |
| MinceR | i wrote my first thesis with openoffice and the second with LaTeX | Apr 19 18:49 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I used lyx | Apr 19 18:49 |
| MinceR | i edited the latex source with vim | Apr 19 18:50 |
| msb | MinceR: "<MinceR> i wouldn't mind if they [died with MS]" MinceR, you should not insult or attack Windows *users*. They are our future *customers*! (at no cost) | Apr 19 18:51 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, well the chromebooks seem to be doing well | Apr 19 18:52 |
| MinceR | msb: some of them are entirely deserving of insults, though | Apr 19 18:52 |
| cubezzz | I'd say the worst is over, hopefully? | Apr 19 18:52 |
| msb | MinceR: Why? | Apr 19 18:52 |
| MinceR | msb: some of them are part of the problem | Apr 19 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Screenshots of Ubuntu-based Distros | Apr 19 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Screenshots of Ubuntu-based Distros | Tux Machines | Apr 19 18:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines We still believe in Linus’ law after Heartbleed | Apr 19 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | bug, says Elie Auvray of Jahia | Apr 19 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/8X0qrwn0KR | Apr 19 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | We still believe in Linus’ law after Heartbleed bug, says Elie Auvray of Jahia | Tux Machines | Apr 19 18:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Please protest the "Windows 8 Campus Tour" | Apr 19 18:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/bpPcgcBUxc | Apr 19 18:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Please protest the "Windows 8 Campus Tour" | Tux Machines | Apr 19 18:52 | |
| MinceR | msb: some of them are fighting engineers to drag us into m$ hell | Apr 19 18:52 |
| msb | MinceR: How, unless they are MS advocates? | Apr 19 18:52 |
| cubezzz | did that Guest guy make a re-appearance? | Apr 19 18:52 |
| MinceR | some m$ users are m$ advocates | Apr 19 18:53 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: no, afaik | Apr 19 18:53 |
| msb | Right, they should be attacked. But not non-advocate ms users. They are current victims, and our future customers and associates. | Apr 19 18:53 |
| cubezzz | yeah, you can't attack customers :) | Apr 19 18:54 |
| msb | I had to tell this to Linux advocates on COLA all the time when I was on there. Most of them didn't listen. | Apr 19 18:54 |
| MinceR | msb: our future customers and associates won't die with m$ | Apr 19 18:55 |
| MinceR | _because_ they'll become our future customers and associates. | Apr 19 18:56 |
| msb | But if we're nasty to them, they'll think of Linux people as nasty, just like MS has been telling them we are! | Apr 19 18:56 |
| msb | They might go to Mac instead. | Apr 19 18:57 |
| msb | Ick. | Apr 19 18:57 |
| MinceR | crApple should die too | Apr 19 18:57 |
| MinceR | they seem to be declining as well | Apr 19 18:57 |
| msb | Yep | Apr 19 18:57 |
| cubezzz | the market is glutted | Apr 19 18:58 |
| cubezzz | PCs are really on the decline | Apr 19 18:58 |
| cubezzz | partly because people aren't upgrading as often | Apr 19 18:59 |
| cubezzz | partly because of mobile computing devices | Apr 19 18:59 |
| msb | To originate content, one needs a real keyboard and a good-sized screen. | Apr 19 18:59 |
| msb | Not tiny content like tweets, but real text about important things. | Apr 19 19:00 |
| MinceR | keyboards can be connected to most mobile devices | Apr 19 19:00 |
| cubezzz | like xlib and motif! :) | Apr 19 19:00 |
| MinceR | and built-in keyboards of laptops are inferior anyway | Apr 19 19:00 |
| MinceR | none of them use Cherry ML key switches | Apr 19 19:00 |
| msb | We should encourage people to get laptops/notebooks, not tablets. | Apr 19 19:01 |
| MinceR | laptops and tablets are converging anyway | Apr 19 19:01 |
| msb | Much better than touchscreens though. | Apr 19 19:01 |
| MinceR | touchscreens are just yet another feature | Apr 19 19:01 |
| msb | but they shouldn't substitute for a keyboard | Apr 19 19:02 |
| MinceR | not entirely, certainly | Apr 19 19:02 |
| msb | keyboard with touchscreen is fine | Apr 19 19:02 |
| MinceR | but sometimes they work well | Apr 19 19:02 |
| MinceR | for example, on my phone | Apr 19 19:02 |
| msb | but not for originating content | Apr 19 19:02 |
| msb | right, you don't write essays on your phone | Apr 19 19:03 |
| MinceR | or typing when sitting on public transport | Apr 19 19:03 |
| MinceR | on a tablet | Apr 19 19:03 |
| msb | wherever you are, if you're writing real content, and have a lap, you're better off with a laptop than a tablet | Apr 19 19:04 |
| MinceR | holding a laptop on your lap can be rather awkward | Apr 19 19:04 |
| MinceR | it's better to sit down at a desk and use a mechanical keyboard | Apr 19 19:04 |
| msb | maybe laptops could have neck straps and belt connectors so you can use them standing up, if needed | Apr 19 19:05 |
| MinceR | that said, my experiment of replacing my laptop (well, convertible tablet pc) with an arm tablet failed | Apr 19 19:05 |
| msb | yes, but you were talking about on public transport -- no desks | Apr 19 19:05 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 19 19:05 |
| MinceR | or we could have belt-mounted keyboards and wearable computers :> | Apr 19 19:05 |
| MinceR | with a head up display | Apr 19 19:05 |
| msb | yep | Apr 19 19:05 |
| MinceR | or direct neural connections | Apr 19 19:06 |
| msb | USB5, back of the neck, like in Ghost in the Shell | Apr 19 19:06 |
| msb | (I made up the USB5 part, but they do have sockets there.) | Apr 19 19:07 |
| msb | What's the resolution of google glass? | Apr 19 19:07 |
| cubezzz | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Wearcompevolution.jpg/1024px-Wearcompevolution.jpg | Apr 19 19:07 |
| MinceR | wikipedia says it's 640x360 | Apr 19 19:08 |
| msb | Usable | Apr 19 19:08 |
| msb | LINC used to be about 40x20 text | Apr 19 19:09 |
| msb | 5inch oscilloscope | Apr 19 19:09 |
| msb | Beard is required. | Apr 19 19:11 |
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| *MinceR shaves | Apr 19 19:12 | |
| msb | No beard, dorky: http://studenti.fisica.unifi.it/~calamai/images/Techno-Bill.gif | Apr 19 19:13 |
| cubezzz | similar to Steve Mann :) | Apr 19 19:14 |
| msb | Whozzat? | Apr 19 19:14 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_head-mounted_display | Apr 19 19:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Optical head-mounted display - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/h4gcy ] | Apr 19 19:14 | |
| msb | Wow, lotsa those! | Apr 19 19:15 |
| MinceR | indeed | Apr 19 19:16 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/steve-mann.jpg | Apr 19 19:16 |
| msb | Then I'd learn a one-hand chord keyboard. | Apr 19 19:16 |
| MinceR | http://blog.laptopmag.com/google-glass-alternatives | Apr 19 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.laptopmag.com | Google Glass Alternatives - 2014 Smart Glasses - LAPTOP Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/h4gdz ] | Apr 19 19:17 | |
| msb | Damn firefox crashed and wasn't even using much cpu. I probably shouldn't have 80 tabs in one of its windows. | Apr 19 19:19 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 19 19:20 |
| MinceR | recently i've found a way to cut down on tabs | Apr 19 19:20 |
| cubezzz | google glass looks like an OK device for receiving information but you can't really output, at least I don't see any way to do so | Apr 19 19:20 |
| MinceR | it mainly relies on voice recognition for that | Apr 19 19:21 |
| MinceR | it also has a small touchpad | Apr 19 19:21 |
| MinceR | http://www.smartglassesnews.org/smart-glasses/ | Apr 19 19:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smartglassesnews.org | Compare Smart Glasses - Smart Glasses News [ http://ur1.ca/h4gfi ] | Apr 19 19:22 | |
| MinceR | a sufficiently smart "smart glass" could be used with some sort of keyboard, though | Apr 19 19:23 |
| msb | The glasses should just be an output device. Computer in ones pocket, on the belt, etc. Much less weight on the face. | Apr 19 19:26 |
| msb | gloves with sensors could act as a keyboard and implement QWERTY. | Apr 19 19:30 |
| msb | No retraining needed. | Apr 19 19:30 |
| MinceR | http://readwrite.com/2013/10/30/five-face-saving-alternatives-to-google-glass | Apr 19 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-readwrite.com | Five Face-Saving Alternatives To Google Glass – ReadWrite [ http://ur1.ca/h4gii ] | Apr 19 19:30 | |
| msb | Thanks for all this great HUD info! I'm just saving the urls write now because I don't want FF to crash again. I have to clean out a lot of those tabs. | Apr 19 19:32 |
| msb | right now | Apr 19 19:32 |
| MinceR | np | Apr 19 19:33 |
| cubezzz | I guess I'm always very memory conservative | Apr 19 19:33 |
| cubezzz | I never use more than 4 tabs, and sometimes I don't even use firefox | Apr 19 19:33 |
| MinceR | i've found it's easier to move tabs to bookmarks if i can determine the scroll percentage via the Scroll Progress extension and write it into the title | Apr 19 19:33 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/basic-linux-3-is-lean-and-mean.png | Apr 19 19:34 |
| msb | I have plenty more memory, but I think ff constantly cycles thru all the tabs and goes nuts if there are too many, | Apr 19 19:34 |
| cubezzz | 16 megs baby :) | Apr 19 19:35 |
| cubezzz | you want more colour? | Apr 19 19:36 |
| cubezzz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/linux-486.jpg | Apr 19 19:36 |
| MinceR | icewm is nice :) | Apr 19 19:36 |
| cubezzz | I'm pretty sure even BL3 could be improved upon | Apr 19 19:38 |
| msb | I keep leaving pages in tabs to look at later, but I forget to. | Apr 19 19:38 |
| MinceR | i did that a lot | Apr 19 19:39 |
| MinceR | especially if i have already read part of it | Apr 19 19:39 |
| MinceR | i figured i could save them to files and print them to pdfs and let my pdf reader remember where i scrolled them | Apr 19 19:40 |
| MinceR | but it was too much work so i didn't really do it | Apr 19 19:40 |
| MinceR | Scroll Progress makes it a lot easier :) | Apr 19 19:40 |
| msb | good for lots of text in a page! | Apr 19 19:41 |
| msb | Tablet in the pocket with lots of RAM and SDRAM, running Linux, HUD and chord-keyboard or sensor gloves. Wow, this could be doable right now! | Apr 19 19:44 |
| msb | How much do those good HUD glasses cost? | Apr 19 19:45 |
| MinceR | dunno | Apr 19 19:45 |
| MinceR | many of them aren't even for sale yet | Apr 19 19:45 |
| msb | Are there any tablets that run regular x86 Linux instead of ARM? | Apr 19 19:46 |
| MinceR | well, the ThinkPad X Series Tablets can do that and are x86 | Apr 19 19:47 |
| MinceR | but they're on the heavy side | Apr 19 19:47 |
| msb | Of course there's the problem of batteries. | Apr 19 19:47 |
| MinceR | there's this >> http://linuxgizmos.com/kids-tablet-runs-android-4-4-on-64-bit-intel-atom/ | Apr 19 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Kids tablet runs Android 4.4 on 64-bit Intel Atom · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/h4god ] | Apr 19 19:48 | |
| MinceR | but i don't know if it can run GNU and X | Apr 19 19:48 |
| MinceR | there's the ThinkPad Helix but i don't know if it will run GNU and X | Apr 19 19:50 |
| cubezzz | there was a zaurus that ran X | Apr 19 19:51 |
| msb | Have you guys seen this movie? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280674/combined | Apr 19 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com | The First $20 Million Is Always the Hardest (2002) [ http://ur1.ca/h4gow ] | Apr 19 19:51 | |
| MinceR | there was also the series of nokia "internet tablets" (sized like pdas) | Apr 19 19:51 |
| MinceR | not yet | Apr 19 19:51 |
| cubezzz | I think SL-700 and higher | Apr 19 19:51 |
| msb | Fictional, but has some good hacking and innovative I/O. Definitely worth watching. | Apr 19 19:52 |
| msb | Laser hologram display with finger tracking when you stick you finger in the hologram. | Apr 19 19:53 |
| msb | And sensor gloves on a different machine. | Apr 19 19:53 |
| cubezzz | just put motion sensors on your finger tips | Apr 19 19:53 |
| MinceR | you might also need force feedback | Apr 19 19:54 |
| cubezzz | it's interesting the touch screen desk from Tron never appeared | Apr 19 19:54 |
| cubezzz | as far as I know | Apr 19 19:55 |
| msb | doesn't ms have some kind of touchscreen desk? | Apr 19 19:55 |
| MinceR | they (and others) have touchscreen tables | Apr 19 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leveraging Cloud, Open Source To Aid Embattled | Apr 19 19:55 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IT http://t.co/1qGOYczqdX | Apr 19 19:55 |
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| cubezzz | Microsoft == Encom? :) | Apr 19 19:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leveraging Cloud, Open Source To Aid Embattled IT | Tux Machines | Apr 19 19:55 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/W18gQ8BMVQ | Apr 19 19:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 19 19:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/sQl7ORZXwH | Apr 19 19:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Apr 19 19:56 | |
| cubezzz | I guess Microsoft is evil enough to be the MCP | Apr 19 19:57 |
| msb | To want to be, at least. | Apr 19 19:57 |
| cubezzz | there's the Optimus Tactus | Apr 19 19:59 |
| cubezzz | no restrictions on keyboard size or shape | Apr 19 20:00 |
| msb | There was a two-player game in BASIC like that motorcycle-make-walls game in TRON. | Apr 19 20:00 |
| cubezzz | http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/tactus/ | Apr 19 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.artlebedev.com | Optimus Tactus keyboard [ http://ur1.ca/916ki ] | Apr 19 20:00 | |
| cubezzz | all those types of games derived from Atari Dominos | Apr 19 20:02 |
| msb | I might have programmed the one in BASIC, called it SNAKES. Very simple to program. | Apr 19 20:03 |
| cubezzz | sorry, there's an earlier one... Blockade by Gremlin, 1976 | Apr 19 20:07 |
| cubezzz | also ksnakerace :) | Apr 19 20:08 |
| msb | I didn't say I invented it. 8^) | Apr 19 20:09 |
| cubezzz | no, I realize that | Apr 19 20:09 |
| cubezzz | I just meant Blockade predates Dominos | Apr 19 20:09 |
| cubezzz | I'm sure many people have programmed a snake type game | Apr 19 20:10 |
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| MinceR | that was the m$ munchkin from last time | Apr 19 21:32 |
| MinceR | gn | Apr 19 21:37 |
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| SilverSlimer | So why are we boycotting Novell? (other than the fact that its products are generally awful) | Apr 19 21:55 |
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| Working | Hello? | Apr 19 22:49 |
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