IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: August 3rd, 2014-August 9th, 2014

DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 03 02:03
DaemonFC	http://www.welivesecurity.com/2014/03/21/10-years-of-mac-os-x-malware/	Aug 03 02:03
DaemonFC	Even their malware is pretty. LOL	Aug 03 02:03
DaemonFC	This isn't a complete list. I've seen some rather interesting Mac malware. There are some huge-ish Mac botnets out there, mostly just coming from one or two highly pirated pieces of software. (Microsoft Office for Mac and Adobe Photoshop.).	Aug 03 02:03
DaemonFC	I wonder why people even use Photoshop sometimes. Obviously, 95% of the people you see with it don't need it. You really have to wonder how they got Adobe Photoshop full edition and Windows Ultimate on a Dell Inspiron. I don't think they come with those.... Well, no, you don't have to wonder how they got it. They got it under the terms of the PBPL, of course. ;)	Aug 03 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.welivesecurity.com \| 10 years of Mac OS X malware [ http://ur1.ca/hw9ls ]		Aug 03 02:03
DaemonFC	It's nice to see some ***hole on a Mac will happily pay over a thousand dollars for a toothless computer, and then try to balance the ledger by stealing software.	Aug 03 02:03
DaemonFC	The Macs aren't particularly useful individually, for mining bitcoins, but you've got a bunch of systems that are sitting ducks and have some processing power shared between them, so it's obvious why the malware problem is there.	Aug 03 02:03
DaemonFC	Maybe someone can answer this for me since I haven't upgraded RAM in a very long time.	Aug 03 02:20
DaemonFC	I have three 4 GB DDR3-1600 modules in my motherboard, 1.5v, 11-11-11-30.	Aug 03 02:20
DaemonFC	I found a 4 GB module of another brand on Newegg that says 4 GB DDR3-1600, 1.5v, 11-11-11-28.	Aug 03 02:21
DaemonFC	Will it work?	Aug 03 02:21
DaemonFC	Doesn't seem to be a huge difference.	Aug 03 02:23
DaemonFC	I know I've gotten away with mixing and matching RAM before on older DDR RAM, but I am not really up to speed on what's changed.	Aug 03 02:24
DaemonFC	http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adata-DDR3-12800-4GB-240PIN-Ram-Module-HP-Certified-Replacement-Part-/171402661617?pt=US_Memory_RAM_&hash=item27e8650ef1	Aug 03 03:40
DaemonFC	Opinions?	Aug 03 03:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebay.com \| ADATA DDR3 12800 4GB 240pin RAM Module HP Certified Replacement Part \| eBay		Aug 03 03:40
DaemonFC	I don't know if it'll work properly, but if it's only gonna be a few bucks, I could take the chance.	Aug 03 03:40
DaemonFC	I'm probably gonna take the closest RAM I can find. I can't find an exact match for the modules that are in there, but ADATA and Team seem to have RAM that is very close.	Aug 03 04:26
DaemonFC	Obviously I want to maximize the chances that it works. :P	Aug 03 04:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Randa Meetings Interview Four: Myriam	Aug 03 06:55
TweetTuxMachines	Schweingruber http://t.co/aJENyKOVWx	Aug 03 06:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 06:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Randa Meetings Interview Four: Myriam Schweingruber \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 06:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Let's Use Linux and Android SDK for Better	Aug 03 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	Android App Development http://t.co/yKqRg1Gb0t	Aug 03 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 08:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Let's Use Linux and Android SDK for Better Android App Development \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Lightweight Graphical Email Clients	Aug 03 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HpUNjAOSTB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 08:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Best Lightweight Graphical Email Clients \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 08:13
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DaemonFC	http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-acer-116-chromebook-with-14ghz-dual-core-processor?&utm_campaign=200011&utm_medium=afl&utm_source=GPN&z=skip	Aug 03 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.groupon.com \| Acer 11.6" Chromebook with 1.4GHz Dual-Core Processor Deal of the Day \| Groupon [ http://ur1.ca/hwawy ]		Aug 03 08:55
DaemonFC	Groupon has Acer C720-D Chromebooks for $129.99 right now.	Aug 03 08:55
DaemonFC	That's a good deal. Love mine.	Aug 03 08:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Image #157 Comes With Mir And	Aug 03 09:22
TweetTuxMachines	Unity 8 Improvements, Among Others	Aug 03 09:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/M1plQc9wdQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 09:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch Image #157 Comes With Mir And Unity 8 Improvements, Among Others \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 09:22
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schestowitz	http://www.newsfactor.com/blog_article.php?aid=5643709	Aug 03 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsfactor.com \| NewsFactor Network \| Best Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/hwb31 ]		Aug 03 09:44
schestowitz	Been anti-Snowden for ages	Aug 03 09:44
schestowitz	the writers all the tim	Aug 03 09:44
schestowitz	time	Aug 03 09:44
schestowitz	also anti-Wikileaks	Aug 03 09:44
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Sosumi	and it is true	Aug 03 16:24
Sosumi	portugal's most insolvent bank is to be bailed out by less insolvent banks	Aug 03 16:24
Sosumi	what can go possibly go wrong	Aug 03 16:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines When Linux Was Perfect Enough	Aug 03 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OTsry6NpD3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 20:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| When Linux Was Perfect Enough \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A year without Windows and a new love of Linux	Aug 03 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xaDLW2YXBp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 20:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A year without Windows and a new love of Linux \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The GPLv3 GPU Is Now Available	Aug 03 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/42nwMzARzA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 20:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The GPLv3 GPU Is Now Available \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 20:19
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MinceR	how are you gentlemen !!	Aug 03 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.23 released http://t.co/bifqqulpbE	Aug 03 20:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 20:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Wine 1.7.23 released \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/5vV90nvSzx (www.x.org) Server 1.16,	Aug 03 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	Rootless X Now Available For Arch Linux	Aug 03 20:54
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TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fGUQdNU2Sp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 20:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 10.2.5 http://t.co/9OjMXcDq34	Aug 03 20:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mesa 10.2.5 \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 20:54
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prometeo	Hi Roy I am woritting to you because of your article: The European Patent Office is Breaking the Law Regarding Software Patents, German Parliament Finally Complains	Aug 03 21:01
prometeo	In addition to that there are some other issues in the EPO working that worries to me.	Aug 03 21:02
prometeo	First. I wonder if EPO is an Organization that applies Equal Opportutinties Jobs or make unethical discriminations among candidates. I am talking because of my own experience	Aug 03 21:03
prometeo	Sencond if they have t be so rude and unpolite. They don't answer jobs applications. Just in the case you want a visit with Human RElationships department. the guard and the main entrance tells you that he doesn't know thwere is the HHRR.	Aug 03 21:05
prometeo	Third. It is very sad for an European citicenz to see how EU institutions are surrendering to USA companies interest	Aug 03 21:06
prometeo	I say so mainly because the new CPC patent classification, has elicted the A61P relavite to therapeutic drug activity. I can not think what is the reason	Aug 03 21:07
prometeo	If you wnat to write to me you can reach me in manuel.cornejo.m[at]gmail.com	Aug 03 21:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Features Of Linux 3.16	Aug 03 21:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UGyB1v3cpP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 21:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Best Features Of Linux 3.16 \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 21:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Updates SteamOS and Fixes the	Aug 03 21:20
TweetTuxMachines	Custom-Built Compositor http://t.co/OEbqRl7Ocf	Aug 03 21:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 21:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Valve Updates SteamOS and Fixes the Custom-Built Compositor \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moto G Problems From Android 4.4 KitKat Update:	Aug 03 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	Battery Drain, Airplane Mode Problems	Aug 03 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rDkAwjoivl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 21:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Moto G Problems From Android 4.4 KitKat Update: Battery Drain, Airplane Mode Problems \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 21:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Create your own custom distro images from	Aug 04 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	Distroshare http://t.co/R248hoidW7	Aug 04 00:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Create your own custom distro images from Distroshare \| Tux Machines		Aug 04 00:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/zgHRnz04K2	Aug 04 00:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/kiHlRWy53f	Aug 04 00:19
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MinceR	gn	Aug 04 01:27
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 04 01:34
DaemonFC	The iPhone only comes with 1 gig of RAM too.	Aug 04 01:34
DaemonFC	All in all, the iPhone is to smartphones as Internet Explorer 6 was to web browsers.	Aug 04 01:34
DaemonFC	The reason millions of people started bailing is because Android pulled ahead years ago, and now Apple is going around trying to copy as many Android features as they can, but some of the iPhone's most crippling and aggravating limitations are going to survive at least into iPhone 6 and iOS 8. It just won't be as painful. But for that price, do you really want a painful and limited phone? Should people be paying $600-850 on a phone and then	Aug 04 01:34
DaemonFC	making compromises with things like screen resolutions? At that price, they should expect quad HD now. The LG G3 really set a new bar for what a phone should be.	Aug 04 01:34
DaemonFC	2 seconds ago	Aug 04 02:31
DaemonFC	.	Aug 04 02:31
DaemonFC	I like tormenting people who are hawking Apple garbage on Craigslist sometimes by making fun of them for trying to sell their old unsupported garbage for like $500.	Aug 04 02:31
DaemonFC	I always offer to haul it away for free. You all should probably see some of the hatemail that I get.	Aug 04 02:31
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MinceR	:)	Aug 04 06:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/XecV8kYwxi	Aug 04 08:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 08:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 3.16, Get	Aug 04 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	While It's Hot http://t.co/5vN15cdXXs	Aug 04 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 10:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 3.16, Get While It's Hot \| Tux Machines		Aug 04 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What owning your personal cloud means for the	Aug 04 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	open source movement http://t.co/4Kbl4lIBXy	Aug 04 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 10:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| What owning your personal cloud means for the open source movement \| Tux Machines		Aug 04 10:10
MinceR	geekings	Aug 04 10:31
DaemonFC	Wow, these new CPUs are amazing.	Aug 04 12:12
DaemonFC	All that power at my disposal and it only uses 68 watts.	Aug 04 12:12
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MinceR	http://www.ebay.de/itm/Patch-KEEP-CALM-and-WAIT-FOR-RUSSIANS-on-velcro-/331256249493?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d20693c95	Aug 04 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebay.de \| Patch "KEEP CALM and WAIT FOR RUSSIANS" on velcro \| eBay		Aug 04 20:11
schestowitz_bed2	> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-rettinger/microsofts-four-biggest-problems_b_5641212.html	Aug 04 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com \| Microsoft's 4 Biggest Problems \| Jonathan Rettinger [ http://ur1.ca/hwnjh ]		Aug 04 20:14
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schestowitz_bed2	> spam	Aug 04 20:14
schestowitz_bed2	I didn't read beyond the sub-headlines. It sounds like some blog from a supposedly knowledge-able Microsoft lover. He promises to help Microsoft fix its operations...	Aug 04 20:14
schestowitz_bed2	MinceR: wow	Aug 04 20:45
schestowitz_bed2	for a moment there I thought it was some real book	Aug 04 20:45
MinceR	:>	Aug 04 20:46
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 05 05:37
DaemonFC	Trying to transfer everything over to Apple's system is like watching the last chapter of The Shawshank Redemption in reverse.	Aug 05 05:37
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4509207	Aug 05 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Best Lightweight Graphical Email Clients http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20140802104742756/LightweightEmailClients.html #email		Aug 05 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxlinks.com \| The Best Lightweight Graphical Email Clients - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site [ http://ur1.ca/hwd4c ]		Aug 05 08:34
schestowitz__	"To be fair, it is running about 6 email addresses, a couple of which have gigabytes of email..."	Aug 05 08:34
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4513523	Aug 05 08:35
schestowitz__	"This seems misleading, like a shell game. JP Morgan branches are mentioned more than once. Who owns the banks? If the banks and institutions listed were really independent would the news organization be as uniform and out of whack as they are? Power and media ownership seems far more concentrated as this article indicates."	Aug 05 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The owners of #usatoday (Gannett) is no exception: http://www.niemanlab.org/2011/03/who-owns-newspaper-companies-the-banks-funds-and-investors-and-their-big-slices-of-the-industry/ watch "Berkshire Hathaway" at top		Aug 05 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.niemanlab.org \| Who owns newspaper companies? The banks, funds, and investors and their (big) slices of the industry » Nieman Journalism Lab [ http://ur1.ca/3fauk ]		Aug 05 08:35
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DaemonFC	http://www.ebay.com/itm/Msi-7870-Ghz-Edition/291205855751?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D8812462572084243932%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D291205855751	Aug 05 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebay.com \| MSI 7870 GHz Edition \| eBay [ http://ur1.ca/hwrzz ]		Aug 05 10:21
DaemonFC	He says it's listed as broken but only shows artifacts in one game.	Aug 05 10:22
DaemonFC	I might risk a few bucks on it.	Aug 05 10:22
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DaemonFC	I'm bidding on a RadeonHD 7870.	Aug 05 12:36
DaemonFC	If I can get it at the right price, it should make a nice upgrade from my Geforce 560 GTX	Aug 05 12:37
DaemonFC	The 560 GTX is struggling on RAGE. Of course, that game was widely ridiculed for being horribly ported to the PC and not optimized properly.	Aug 05 12:38
DaemonFC	I'm sick of all these companies dropping broken games on the PC that crash and hang and stutter on decent hardware. :P	Aug 05 12:38
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DaemonFC	The 7870 could be a good card if I snag it at the right price.	Aug 05 13:07
DaemonFC	I'm probably going to put a batch of my old video cards on ebay when I get something newer.	Aug 05 13:08
DaemonFC	I have a collection of ancient video cards. Some are even so old that they're PCI bus.	Aug 05 13:08
DaemonFC	I don't imagine I'll get more than $10 for some of them, but they're just clutter here.	Aug 05 13:08
DaemonFC	Someone with an old computer might appreciate them.	Aug 05 13:08
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DaemonFC	hmmm	Aug 05 14:40
DaemonFC	Here's a used XFX RadeonHD 7950 3 GB on ebay for $80 + $10 shipping.	Aug 05 14:40
DaemonFC	This stuff depreciates fast!	Aug 05 14:40
DaemonFC	That card was well over $200 not very long ago.	Aug 05 14:41
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DaemonFC	I downloaded the wrong setup program, so unless I want to use Acer's crapware infested recovery disc to set up my new installation on my SSD, I have to download another file. Christ.	Aug 05 15:54
DaemonFC	https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10565217_246273218916050_3187415578012410254_n.jpg?oh=c826c19b4ad19ac671d39992a33dc766&oe=543D33CE&__gda__=1413612818_d589dce1655e52689bb206619c0c5878	Aug 05 16:05
DaemonFC	You know it's a high quality SATA cable because it says high quality SATA cable.	Aug 05 16:05
DaemonFC	Cost me a cool 99 cents. B-)	Aug 05 16:05
MinceR	:>	Aug 05 16:05
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DaemonFC	errr	Aug 05 16:06
DaemonFC	https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10559941_246274508915921_8099838344237517983_n.jpg?oh=c4792df5921f3c756b441e63a0072c0e&oe=543E7706&__gda__=1414086252_c04b7c750a37840b6ca7814d1ea299f1	Aug 05 16:06
DaemonFC	There she blows. :P	Aug 05 16:07
DaemonFC	MinceR, I'm planning to swap out the Geforce GTX 560 with something that has a little more punch, but I don't know exactly how far I can go.	Aug 05 16:08
DaemonFC	The power supply seems to have some kind of proprietary hookup to the main board.	Aug 05 16:08
DaemonFC	The good news is that it seems pretty well-designed other than that. 500 watt, 3 12 volt rails, 80 plus gold certification, and two 6 pin adapters.	Aug 05 16:09
DaemonFC	I got the computer at a pretty good price. I figured there'd be something dodgy about it. Stupid proprietary power supplies.	Aug 05 16:09
DaemonFC	I guess it can't be worse than what I've seen Dell and HP do.	Aug 05 16:10
DaemonFC	"Oh, here's a 280 watt power supply with Engrish on it, and no connectors for a graphics card. Don't worry though, you won't need any since there's no port for one either." :D	Aug 05 16:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt Creator 3.2 RC1, a cross-platform IDE	Aug 05 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	(integrated development environment) tailored	Aug 05 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	to the needs of Qt deve...	Aug 05 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/weXqmYqwQ5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy18	Aug 05 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Qt Creator 3.2 RC1, a cross-platform IDE (integrated development environment) tailored to the needs of Qt developers and part of the Qt Project, is now available for download and testing. \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Support for the 64Bit ARM architecture on	Aug 05 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 21 progressing nicely	Aug 05 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ADHmpYR0HB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy1e	Aug 05 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Support for the 64Bit ARM architecture on Fedora 21 progressing nicely \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 16:11
DaemonFC	Also, it's sort of simple. No "Oh my god, what is this thing?" cables all over the place that I'll never ever plug into anything. :)	Aug 05 16:13
DaemonFC	The one that came with my last computer even had a power cable that had been deleted from the ATX specification like 6 years prior	Aug 05 16:13
DaemonFC	Makes you wonder where they got that thing.	Aug 05 16:14
DaemonFC	Someone probably had thousands of them left over and offered to sell them for a few bucks each. Some computer companies will do anything to save a nickel.	Aug 05 16:14
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 05 16:33
DaemonFC	I'm surprised GadgetDon is even discussing multimedia tasks with you, considering his crummy Mac that has less graphics processing power than lower mid-grade 2008 graphics cards that I've given away for free.	Aug 05 16:33
DaemonFC	hehe	Aug 05 16:33
*DaemonFC waits for Cultist Rage.		Aug 05 16:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to think like open source pioneer Michael	Aug 05 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	Tiemann http://t.co/UhIwkukAw2	Aug 05 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy74	Aug 05 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How to think like open source pioneer Michael Tiemann \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Radeon Gallium3D Is Running Increasingly Well	Aug 05 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	Against AMD's Catalyst Driver	Aug 05 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DCZcaZRtbp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy77	Aug 05 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Radeon Gallium3D Is Running Increasingly Well Against AMD's Catalyst Driver \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Replace your proprietary BIOS with Libreboot	Aug 05 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ev3TDsY3KI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy7b	Aug 05 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Replace your proprietary BIOS with Libreboot \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 16:46
*abeNd-org kicks citrix		Aug 05 16:55
abeNd-org	xenapp/xendesktop is one product line i would love to see replaced by a viable/working/supportable opensource option....	Aug 05 16:59
abeNd-org	their netflow product is great, but xendesktop/xenapp... only thing it is good for is grey hair	Aug 05 17:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.2.6 “Still” Released by The	Aug 05 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	Document Foundation http://t.co/rZOTqRKddn	Aug 05 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwycg	Aug 05 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.2.6 “Still” Released by The Document Foundation \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 17:21
*TweetTuxMachines @voidquest44 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Replace your proprietary BIOS with Libreboot http://t.co/ev3TDsY3KI'		Aug 05 17:21
DaemonFC	Newegg has a deal on McAfee Internet Security 2014.	Aug 05 17:31
DaemonFC	Free after rebate + $10 Newegg gift card.	Aug 05 17:31
DaemonFC	I guess I could buy it, throw the software in the trash, and get my money back plus the gift card.	Aug 05 17:31
DaemonFC	Are they really paying people to take their software?	Aug 05 17:31
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abeNd-org	DaemonFC: lots of A/V vendors do that, Kaspersky did that for awhile @ Frys a few yrs back, then sophos	Aug 05 18:08
DaemonFC	I have no idea why they'd do that.	Aug 05 18:08
DaemonFC	Are they just hoping you come back next year and pay full price while the other guy is doing the same thing? :P	Aug 05 18:09
abeNd-org	loss leader, yep	Aug 05 18:18
abeNd-org	marketing 101	Aug 05 18:18
abeNd-org	betting some people wont send in the rebate, which most dont	Aug 05 18:18
abeNd-org	& those that do, most dont track it, or fill it out correctly	Aug 05 18:18
abeNd-org	same reason anything gives you a "free after rebate" or "free + extras after rebate"	Aug 05 18:22
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DaemonFC	Yeah.	Aug 05 18:38
DaemonFC	"You didn't fill out that rebate form 100% correctly! No rebate for you!"	Aug 05 18:38
DaemonFC	B-)	Aug 05 18:38
DaemonFC	I don't know. I've never had a rebate turned down.	Aug 05 18:39
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DaemonFC	A few have taken a REALLY long time, but I've always gotten the check.	Aug 05 18:39
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DaemonFC	I just don't think that the paid antivirus software is much better than Windows Defender.	Aug 05 18:39
DaemonFC	When Microsoft announced Security Essentials, the stock for Symantec and McAfee took a major hit the next day.	Aug 05 18:40
DaemonFC	Most people who buy a new PC don't really know that it comes with antivirus software now, because OEMs disable it when they shove in the trialware.	Aug 05 18:40
DaemonFC	Then people don't register the trialware, and it expires, and doesn't turn Defender back on. :P	Aug 05 18:41
DaemonFC	I actually have a friend that that happened to.	Aug 05 18:42
DaemonFC	Then a virus infected the system and started running amok because McAfee was over there saying "Your trial expired 500 days ago!". :)	Aug 05 18:42
abeNd-org	yea, good thing i dont have to deal with personal computers	Aug 05 18:44
abeNd-org	i just manage the companies from the A/V admin console	Aug 05 18:44
abeNd-org	& don't let licenses slide :P	Aug 05 18:45
DaemonFC	Well, I have to say that Acer makes pretty nice cases.	Aug 05 18:50
DaemonFC	I've seen ones that were WAAAAAY harder to work in.	Aug 05 18:50
DaemonFC	This one even has one of those drive bays that you unscrew and it slides out so you can get the drives in and out easily.	Aug 05 18:50
DaemonFC	Without taking a bunch of other stuff out.	Aug 05 18:50
abeNd-org	Acer, you mean eMachines/Gateway? :)	Aug 05 18:51
abeNd-org	yea, the Dell Optiplex cases are usually nice & screwless, easy to access	Aug 05 18:52
abeNd-org	even their microcases are usually laid out pretty well	Aug 05 18:52
DaemonFC	eMachines actually gave me a really good deal three PCs ago.	Aug 05 18:56
DaemonFC	I don't think they're branding desktops as eMachines anymore.	Aug 05 18:56
DaemonFC	They sell some mismatched components though.	Aug 05 18:57
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, A Core i7 4770 mixed in with a rebadged RadeonHD 7770 Ghz Edition calling itself a "8760 OEM". LOL	Aug 05 18:57
DaemonFC	That's not a terrible card, but what the hell is it doing in a machine with a Core i7? :P	Aug 05 18:58
DaemonFC	The Core i7 should probably at least be paired with a 7870.	Aug 05 18:58
DaemonFC	I guess I did OK though. I bought it knowing about that. The first thing I did was swap it out for the Geforce GTX 560 SC I already owned. :)	Aug 05 18:59
abeNd-org	an actual card or just onboard video?	Aug 05 18:59
DaemonFC	actual card	Aug 05 18:59
DaemonFC	The 7770 can run some decent games at good speed on high graphics mode	Aug 05 18:59
abeNd-org	must have been cheapest thing they had to throw in that day then, guessing this is a consumer grade machine & not business class?	Aug 05 18:59
DaemonFC	The GTX 560 is a step up though. It's closer to a RadeonHD 6870 or so.	Aug 05 19:00
abeNd-org	i was looking at the evga 750Ti superclocked, inexpensive & supposed to be a really good card for the price	Aug 05 19:00
DaemonFC	oh, I saw one on Newegg this morning.	Aug 05 19:00
DaemonFC	email deals with a rebate attached.	Aug 05 19:00
DaemonFC	It's not as powerful as my GTX 560, but it doesn't use a lot of power.	Aug 05 19:00
DaemonFC	For a card that you don't have to plug into the power supply, the 750 Ti is pretty good.	Aug 05 19:01
DaemonFC	The only downside to my GTX 560 vs the 7770 ("8760") is that the firmware on the Geforce doesn't work without BIOS interfaces.	Aug 05 19:02
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DaemonFC	So you have to use the CSM on the uEFI firmware to bring up the Geforce. :P	Aug 05 19:02
DaemonFC	And you have to do it before you swap the card or you'll just get a blank screen. :D	Aug 05 19:02
DaemonFC	and it's not secure boot compatible, of course	Aug 05 19:03
DaemonFC	heh	Aug 05 19:03
DaemonFC	So if you turn secure boot off and tell your uEFI to pretend it's a BIOS to the card, then the card will come up	Aug 05 19:04
abeNd-org1	i know they have the 1 & 2 gig version, was hoping to get 2 gig, if i can find any reason to have the extra memory...considering i dont actually game, or have the time.	Aug 05 19:04
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DaemonFC	EVGA never provided a firmware update, but you know how these companies are. "We haven't sold those in two years, so fuck you.".	Aug 05 19:04
DaemonFC	Why would you get a 2 GB?	Aug 05 19:04
DaemonFC	That's another thing I don't understand. The "8760 OEM" is a little different than the 7770 Ghz Edition. The 7770 had 1 GB, and the "8760" has 2.	Aug 05 19:05
DaemonFC	It doesn't really make any difference.	Aug 05 19:05
abeNd-org1	since i wouldnt be buying another video card for yrs, getting the most memory i could, supposedly some of the newer games can take advantage of crazy amounts of video memory	Aug 05 19:05
DaemonFC	If you ever go to run a game that needs more than a GB of vram, the card would fall over and die under that load anyway.	Aug 05 19:06
DaemonFC	So, save your money unless you just plan on running three desktops or want to use crazy high resolutions or something.	Aug 05 19:06
DaemonFC	1920 x 1080 is no problem on a 1 GB card.	Aug 05 19:06
abeNd-org1	thats what they said back when people ran the OAK256 ;)	Aug 05 19:06
DaemonFC	My GTX 560 has 1 GB. I still put it in instead of the one with 2.	Aug 05 19:07
abeNd-org1	at home i run 3 monitors, but i dont think any of the games i would play (diablo3/starcraft, not WoW if i ever had the time, or the games :)) take advantage of multimonitor	Aug 05 19:08
DaemonFC	I just don't believe it matters. There's no use trying to futureproof this stuff. After three or four years, it's done.	Aug 05 19:08
abeNd-org1	i remember back in the days some racing games & quake based ones did, Alice was awesome on triple monitor	Aug 05 19:08
abeNd-org1	yea, the 1gig version is about $30 less, i could use that to buy a game, now if only i had time	Aug 05 19:09
DaemonFC	Well, the 750 Ti would run a video game like a slideshow anyway if you tried cranking everything up.	Aug 05 19:09
DaemonFC	So, what good is 2 GB of RAM?	Aug 05 19:09
DaemonFC	yeah, the extra $30 isn't worth it. Not on that card.	Aug 05 19:10
DaemonFC	Lots of RAM makes no sense on low/mid grade cards.	Aug 05 19:10
abeNd-org1	I can possibly justify ~100 USD on a card, so the 1GB superclocked Ti750 evga would just about fit the bill, no way i can justify anything more expensive	Aug 05 19:10
DaemonFC	On top of the line ones it might, if you're running really demanding stuff on maximum settings at high res.	Aug 05 19:11
DaemonFC	Get a used card off of ebay.	Aug 05 19:11
abeNd-org1	it would still be far & above the onboard intel 4000 i have now	Aug 05 19:11
DaemonFC	The 7870s only seem to run about $70-80 by the time the auctions are done.	Aug 05 19:11
DaemonFC	They do need two 6 pins though.	Aug 05 19:11
abeNd-org1	how good is the 7870 compared to the 750Ti? i havent paid much attention to ATI	Aug 05 19:11
DaemonFC	But they would pulverize that 750 Ti.	Aug 05 19:12
DaemonFC	Like, uhh, about four times faster.	Aug 05 19:12
DaemonFC	Give or take. :)	Aug 05 19:12
abeNd-org1	the other reason i was going for the 750Ti is power requirements, wife wont approve of buying a replacement power supply	Aug 05 19:12
abeNd-org1	those 750 Ti work with 300watt PSU	Aug 05 19:12
DaemonFC	Maybe not four, but close.	Aug 05 19:12
abeNd-org1	& this was a free gateway 4860DX, so wife doesnt want me really spending $ on it	Aug 05 19:12
DaemonFC	hmmm	Aug 05 19:13
DaemonFC	I've got a 4670 and a 5670 that I'm not really doing too much with.	Aug 05 19:13
abeNd-org1	core i5, 12gb ram 1tb wdc black, so not a bad box for free, even though it moos	Aug 05 19:13
DaemonFC	The 5670 isn't a fantastic card, but it's still better than integrated video, and it doesn't need to plug into the power supply.	Aug 05 19:14
DaemonFC	Supports DirectX 11 and OpenGL 4.4.	Aug 05 19:14
abeNd-org1	yea, that & cost were the reasons i was looking at the 750Ti	Aug 05 19:14
DaemonFC	I think the 750 Ti only uses like 55 watts at maximum load.	Aug 05 19:14
DaemonFC	So, you're well under the limit of the port itself, which is 75 watts.	Aug 05 19:15
abeNd-org1	yep, i dont have the budget approval for a 900W PSU just for a $300+ video card :)	Aug 05 19:15
DaemonFC	Well, you could probably get away with a 750 Ti on that psu. I wouldn't try to run anything more.	Aug 05 19:16
abeNd-org1	hrm, newegg only has the 2GB variety	Aug 05 19:16
DaemonFC	The newer Core series processors and DDR3 RAM use less power than ever, so you could probably get close to the 75 watt port limit without risking your psu.	Aug 05 19:16
abeNd-org1	yea, the amazon reviews have people running 300watt PSU with that card & actually use it for gaming, they are happy enough	Aug 05 19:16
DaemonFC	My Core i7 4770 only uses 68 watts at full load.	Aug 05 19:16
abeNd-org1	i dont plan on playing crysis or anything like that	Aug 05 19:17
DaemonFC	The Phenom II X4 that it replaced was three times slower and used 125 watts max.	Aug 05 19:17
DaemonFC	:)	Aug 05 19:17
abeNd-org1	$125 vs $154 for 1GB vs 2GB	Aug 05 19:17
DaemonFC	well, if you can get the 2 GB version for not much more after factoring in the rebate, then go for it.	Aug 05 19:18
DaemonFC	I'd say don't pay more than $10 more, or you're being robbed. It's just not likely to be useful.	Aug 05 19:18
DaemonFC	Really, video games are pretty poorly optimized, for the most part.	Aug 05 19:19
abeNd-org1	yea, i doubt diablo3/starcraft2/older games could use more than 1GB ram	Aug 05 19:19
DaemonFC	Some developers, like Bethesda, just rush out broken unoptimized shit.	Aug 05 19:19
DaemonFC	And then they make their money and pretty much abandon it.	Aug 05 19:19
DaemonFC	and their broken game lingers on in Steam forever :)	Aug 05 19:20
abeNd-org1	coughEAcough	Aug 05 19:20
abeNd-org1	to tell the truth, all I want to play is Goat Simulator :D	Aug 05 19:20
abeNd-org1	j/k, I grew up on a goat farm as a kid, no need for a video game	Aug 05 19:20
*MinceR recommends an open source gray hair dye to abeNd-org1		Aug 05 19:25
abeNd-org1	hey, I started going grey in my early 20s	Aug 05 19:26
MinceR	:>	Aug 05 19:28
abeNd-org1	mostly because I actually cared about things	Aug 05 19:32
abeNd-org1	stupid me	Aug 05 19:33
DaemonFC	Yeah. People do whatever they want. They love to make their problem your problem. Shit happens.	Aug 05 19:41
MinceR	Hell is other people.	Aug 05 19:42
DaemonFC	MinceR, People get together and decide how to run your life.	Aug 05 19:51
MinceR	indeed	Aug 05 19:51
DaemonFC	Sometimes they call it communism, and sometimes it's capitalism. Sometimes it's a "democracy" and sometimes it isn't.	Aug 05 19:51
DaemonFC	The only question about it is how bad they're going to fuck you.	Aug 05 19:51
DaemonFC	How much of your stuff they're going to take and give to their friends.	Aug 05 19:52
abeNd-org1	it doesnt matter if it is called capitalism or communism, it is called middle management	Aug 05 19:53
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abeNd-org1	http://www.dilbert.com/2014-08-03/ illustrates it perfectly	Aug 05 19:58
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TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/L2uw7zvCIs (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 20:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sonar GNOME 2014.1 Is a Linux OS Built for	Aug 05 20:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DMA-BUF Cross-Device Synchronization Hits Linux	Aug 05 20:01
TweetTuxMachines	3.17 http://t.co/qExyXLhVRR	Aug 05 20:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What does Docker provide if not virtualization?	Aug 05 22:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Radeon Graphics Get Many Changes For Linux	Aug 05 22:11
TweetTuxMachines	3.17 http://t.co/zGEGS2SgpD	Aug 05 22:11
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DaemonFC	I got my SSD in	Aug 05 22:58
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DaemonFC	http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=301225665336	Aug 05 23:18
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DaemonFC	That's a pretty good deal.	Aug 05 23:18
DaemonFC	I'm adding some EVGA Geforce GTX 660 SCs to my watch list.	Aug 05 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU C Library Exploits Closed in All Ubuntu	Aug 05 23:22
DaemonFC	Those look like a worthy upgrade for my card.	Aug 05 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	Supported OSes http://t.co/8TDqaCeB8c	Aug 05 23:22
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DaemonFC	http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-12G-P4-3999-KR-GeForce-GTX-TITAN-Z-12GB-768-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-3-0-SLI-S-/301263094013?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4624ae00fd	Aug 05 23:30
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DaemonFC	whoa	Aug 05 23:31
MinceR	gn	Aug 06 00:11
DaemonFC	Now I'm looking at the R9 270X	Aug 06 01:08
DaemonFC	That could be a good one.	Aug 06 01:08
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DaemonFC	Yeah, it looks like the R9 270X is a solid choice.	Aug 06 02:09
DaemonFC	I'm glad I didn't peel off that "Powered by Radeon" sticker. :)	Aug 06 02:09
DaemonFC	I chatted Newegg about their 10% off promo not working on a graphics card I wanted, and they said that it was because of free video games, but that they'd credit my card $19 and I can keep the free games!	Aug 06 02:11
msb	Comcast just sent me an email saying they've increased my network speed. So I reset the modem, router, and stopped and restarted the network in etc/init.d	Aug 06 02:35
msb	I tried Comcast's speed test and it said it would start in 6,000 seconds, and began counting down.	Aug 06 02:36
msb	Clever! But another speed test website did show an increase to 2.47 MB/sec, which is definitely faster.	Aug 06 02:37
msb	Of course I'm not getting any faster from the server I'm really interested in, but what the hey, it's prime time here.	Aug 06 02:41
DaemonFC	I ended up buying the R9 270 instead of the 270X.	Aug 06 03:01
DaemonFC	The 270X is only 3% faster, but the 270 was on sale for about 20% less today with free shipping.	Aug 06 03:02
DaemonFC	And it only uses 150 watts instead of 180.	Aug 06 03:02
DaemonFC	So the R9 270 is going to be almost as fast as the Geforce GTX 660 Ti for $100 less.	Aug 06 03:03
DaemonFC	Score!	Aug 06 03:03
DaemonFC	msb, I changed the order. The Sapphire Vapor X R9 270X was in their Daily Deal for $10 more.	Aug 06 03:32
DaemonFC	http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?pid=2036	Aug 06 03:36
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DaemonFC	There's what I just bought.	Aug 06 03:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Zimbra CMO on being a great guardian of open	Aug 06 16:59
TweetTuxMachines	source's three C's http://t.co/gLgMcMT2iQ	Aug 06 16:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Input Drivers Get Renewed For Linux 3.17	Aug 06 16:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/61D9HiUWEp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 16:59
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DaemonFC	I gope I can fit that card I bought into my case...	Aug 06 17:12
DaemonFC	I guess if I had to, I could take the drive bay out. All that's in the side bay is my ssd. I could move that and put it on the bottom of the case. :P	Aug 06 17:13
DaemonFC	uggh	Aug 06 17:14
DaemonFC	Is it just me or do graphics cards keep getting longer?	Aug 06 17:14
abeNd-org	hah, you never saw a VLB video card	Aug 06 17:19
DaemonFC	Oh, I'm sure that with some work, I could get it in. Giggidy!	Aug 06 17:19
DaemonFC	I don't really want to take my drive bay out, but I guess that since my hard drive is using the front bay anyway, it is an option.	Aug 06 17:20
abeNd-org	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_Local_Bus	Aug 06 17:21
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DaemonFC	The only part where Sapphire seems to have cut you a break with the Vapor-X R9 270X is that the six pin power cables plug into the side. So it's a question of whether I have 2" left behind my current card to work with without taking the drive bay out.	Aug 06 17:21
DaemonFC	That card is bigger than it looked. Tiger Direct doesn't give you the specs, so I figured it would be about the same as what I've got.	Aug 06 17:22
abeNd-org	still not as big as a VLB card http://www.interfacebus.com/VESA_Local_Bus_Pinout.html	Aug 06 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.interfacebus.com \| VESA Card Size, VESA PinOut, VESA Local Bus, VLB [ http://ur1.ca/hx6zf ]		Aug 06 17:23
DaemonFC	My Geforce is 4.38" wide and the Vapor-X R9 270X is 4.03, so I know it will fit that way.	Aug 06 17:24
DaemonFC	My case has a thing that props up against the graphics card. I was hoping I wouldn't have to remove that too. :P	Aug 06 17:24
DaemonFC	I was thinking about editing my order again to go back to the R9 270, but that card is still 9" and the power cables plus into the back.	Aug 06 17:26
DaemonFC	I'm about 98% certain that I can get the Vapor X card in there without taking the drive bay out, but it's going to be....very close.	Aug 06 17:26
DaemonFC	This case leaves me with no margin of error.	Aug 06 17:27
DaemonFC	It's going to be pretty ugly.	Aug 06 17:28
DaemonFC	I wish my case gave me about another half inch or so.	Aug 06 17:28
DaemonFC	Well, I guess that taking the drive bay out wouldn't be such a bad thing.	Aug 06 17:30
DaemonFC	It's just more work and not what I want to be doing. lol	Aug 06 17:31
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, VLB?	Aug 06 17:31
abeNd-org	VLB Vesa Local Bus - refer to the 2 links	Aug 06 17:31
abeNd-org	it was the bus of choice with my first computer back in 94	Aug 06 17:32
DaemonFC	http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?pid=2036	Aug 06 17:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.17 Adds Support For Intel "Braswell" HD	Aug 06 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	Audio http://t.co/JTSsMG2uiw	Aug 06 17:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 17:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Flock Day One: Gijs Hillenius Keynote	Aug 06 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JW4uYZipSX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hx711	Aug 06 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Flock Day One: Gijs Hillenius Keynote \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RasPi magazine launches today – get your free	Aug 06 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	downloads here http://t.co/xElYjohf8s	Aug 06 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hx713	Aug 06 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| RasPi magazine launches today – get your free downloads here \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/jphy3Hd9jS	Aug 06 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 17:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines India opens up to operating system Ubuntu	Aug 06 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2GEBlQzzVT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 17:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/mdIGSoZldD	Aug 06 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 17:34
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DaemonFC	abeNd-org, The XFX Double D was half an inch shorter, but cost $70 more. I'd rather do some work with the hard drive cage than pay another $70 for what's basically the same card.	Aug 06 17:46
DaemonFC	I've had XFX cards before, and they do a good job, but they're a little steep. Still, it does kind of piss me off that Sapphire couldn't find a way to get their card down by half a smegging inch. :P	Aug 06 17:46
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, The people who made the cases for the VLB cards would have probably anticipated you using one though. :P	Aug 06 17:48
abeNd-org	yes, in fact there were guides/mounts on the edge side so it wouldn't bow	Aug 06 17:49
DaemonFC	I'd run into the same space problem with the Dual-X configuration too because it's still nearly 10" and the six pin ports are on the back. :P	Aug 06 17:51
DaemonFC	So going with the dual X wouldn't really help.	Aug 06 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/dz4ZqaLsrp	Aug 06 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hx777	Aug 06 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/pWGqTpzXTy	Aug 06 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hx778	Aug 06 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Finding Wayland at Flock 2014	Aug 06 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/youm9CYnxr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hx779	Aug 06 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Finding Wayland at Flock 2014 \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 18:08
MinceR	http://hugelolcdn.com/i460/301754.jpg	Aug 06 18:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Perf-Per-Watt: Catalyst vs. Radeon Gallium3D	Aug 06 18:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fveaqzdHN2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hx7dp	Aug 06 18:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam and HandBrake repository update	Aug 06 18:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gSw6SXR5XL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hx7dr	Aug 06 18:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GTK+ 3 Plugins in WebKitGTK+ and Evince Browser	Aug 06 18:42
TweetTuxMachines	Plugin http://t.co/a7zxboU3Hc	Aug 06 18:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hx7dv	Aug 06 18:42
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MinceR	http://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10268428_844504358894344_4554826229546892078_n.jpg	Aug 06 18:43
DaemonFC	Well, I asked them to cancel the order.	Aug 06 19:02
DaemonFC	I'll look for another card.	Aug 06 19:02
DaemonFC	I busted a tape measurer out and decided that this is probably a bad idea. :P	Aug 06 19:02
DaemonFC	It might still come in the mail anyway. I should have checked instead of eyeballing it. :P	Aug 06 19:03
DaemonFC	If it fits, it's going to have less than a fifth of an inch to spare without hitting that drive cage.	Aug 06 19:04
DaemonFC	So if I get it, then I'm probably going to have to take the cage out. I don't really want to. :P	Aug 06 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Optimizing the front door (your website) for	Aug 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	your open source project http://t.co/on87lfu8cm	Aug 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hx7n9	Aug 06 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Optimizing the front door (your website) for your open source project \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony gives up on PlayStation Mobile for Android	Aug 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BnadRg0INL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 19:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Roll Your Own YouTube/Flickr with MediaGoblin	Aug 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3LfwFzJLCV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 19:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines More Details On GCC & LLVM Collaboration	Aug 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rTwmUDnSHt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 19:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hx7ne	Aug 06 19:39
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DaemonFC	I'm probably going to email Sapphire after I get this card situation sorted out and ask them why their Vapor-X cooler is so long when the competition's is half an inch shorter.	Aug 06 19:39
DaemonFC	A half an inch doesn't sound like much, but I'd imagine it's the difference between the card fitting and an angry pissed off customer in a lot of cases. I think that card makers should really work to make sure that they don't go over the 10" mark. 9.9" should probably be considered a limit, because it will usually fit at 9.9 with an acceptable amount of room left over.	Aug 06 19:39
DaemonFC	Then again, I've also ran into these really long cards that have the 6 pin ports at the back, so if that's what they're doing, then 9.5" should really be considered a limit, because you have to get the damned thing plugged in. If you put it on the sides, you're giving your customer about another 0.4" of clearance at the back.	Aug 06 19:39
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, Yeah. I'm sure I can fit the card. I'm most likely going to have to take the drive cage out. Damn them.	Aug 06 21:00
DaemonFC	All this over less than a fifth of an inch.	Aug 06 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Digia spins Qt unit as a separate company	Aug 06 21:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/29bO6bKuRt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 21:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gesture-controlled home automation hub runs	Aug 06 21:02
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/r5vSTU9ZnP	Aug 06 21:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 21:02
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MinceR	220219 < TweetTuxMachines> @tuxmachines Digia spins Qt unit as a separate company	Aug 06 21:03
MinceR	they could call it TrollTech	Aug 06 21:03
abeNd-org	DaemonFC: a hammer?	Aug 06 21:04
DaemonFC	uhhh, uhhhh	Aug 06 21:05
DaemonFC	Not really sure I want to do that. :)	Aug 06 21:05
DaemonFC	Tiger Direct just changed my order status to BACKORDERED.	Aug 06 21:05
DaemonFC	Those bastards.	Aug 06 21:05
abeNd-org	DaemonFC: awww come on, do some custom case modding!	Aug 06 21:05
DaemonFC	I'm just going to take the drive cage out if I have to.	Aug 06 21:06
DaemonFC	I got on the phone with their support people and got it taken care of, I think.	Aug 06 21:23
DaemonFC	Good god.	Aug 06 21:24
DaemonFC	I might not do any more orders through them!	Aug 06 21:24
abeNd-org	i havent worked with tiger direct online in years	Aug 06 21:25
abeNd-org	there is a physical store near one of my customers (renamed compusa) that I go to sometimes	Aug 06 21:25
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roy_	MinceR: haha!	Aug 06 21:58
roy_	Nokia -> magnified Trolltech	Aug 06 21:58
roy_	Then downsized as Digia and back to Oslo	Aug 06 21:58
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DaemonFC	Don't order from Tiger Direct.	Aug 06 22:29
DaemonFC	Holy fucking jumping shitballs. If I knew what their customer support was like, I would have paid the extra $20 at newegg.	Aug 06 22:29
DaemonFC	Actually more. :P	Aug 06 22:30
DaemonFC	Newegg had the graphics card I wanted for $189.99, but they charge 7% state sales tax.	Aug 06 22:30
DaemonFC	So it would have worked out to $203.29.	Aug 06 22:31
DaemonFC	I got the same card on Tiger Direct for $169.99 with no tax, and it comes with a $10 mail in rebate form to send to Sapphire.	Aug 06 22:31
DaemonFC	So, six weeks later, I'll get $10 of that back.	Aug 06 22:31
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DaemonFC	MinceR, I hate sales tax.	Aug 06 22:47
MinceR	is that VAT?	Aug 06 22:48
DaemonFC	I hate taxes period. The state says it knows how to spend my money better than I do, and when they raise my taxes, they offset the increased revenue immediately, by giving the rich another tax break.	Aug 06 22:48
DaemonFC	Not the same, really.	Aug 06 22:48
DaemonFC	VAT doesn't happen here, at least not that I'm aware of.	Aug 06 22:49
DaemonFC	With VAT, each step of the manufacturing process is taxed, so the price of the tax is built into the finished goods.	Aug 06 22:49
DaemonFC	With a sales tax, the finished good is taxed based on the price paid for the good.	Aug 06 22:49
DaemonFC	The VAT is harder to escape because in the US, each state is responsible for collecting their own sales tax, but if you buy from a company that has no physical presence in your state, then they won't collect the tax, and your state can't make them do it.	Aug 06 22:50
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DaemonFC	So you can escape the sales tax by buying from a merchant that has no physical presence in your state.	Aug 06 22:50
DaemonFC	Amazon and Newegg have warehouses in Indiana. Tiger Direct contracts their warehousing out to another company.	Aug 06 22:51
DaemonFC	So although there's a warehouse in Indiana, Tiger Direct doesn't legally have a presence here.	Aug 06 22:51
DaemonFC	The end result is that they're immediately 7% cheaper than Newegg or Amazon on an item that is the same price at both places.	Aug 06 22:51
DaemonFC	So, if you're looking to save money, you just do business with someone that isn't bound to collect the tax. You're supposed to report it on an Indiana tax form and pay it yourself, but nobody does.	Aug 06 22:52
DaemonFC	The state usually never goes after anyone for it because it would have to take them to court and prove they didn't pay $10 in tax. :P	Aug 06 22:53
DaemonFC	They don't have the budget to go through millions of online orders and sue people to get a few dollars out of each one.	Aug 06 22:54
DaemonFC	After I get my Vapor X card hooked up and running, I'm going to throw that "RadeonHD 8760 OEM" (Radeon HD 7770 Ghz Edition with extra RAM) on ebay and see if I can get some money for it.	Aug 06 22:55
DaemonFC	It's easily a $80-90 card, new.	Aug 06 22:56
DaemonFC	If I can get $60 out of it, I'll be happy.	Aug 06 22:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA 343 Linux Driver Improves EGL Support,	Aug 06 23:16
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes Many Bugs http://t.co/9xbyILEIy1	Aug 06 23:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google under threat as forked Android devices	Aug 06 23:16
TweetTuxMachines	rise to 20% of smartphone shipments	Aug 06 23:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cartagena hosts Latin American Ubuntu	Aug 06 23:16
TweetTuxMachines	convention http://t.co/EedSU3OcPX	Aug 06 23:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android head-up display responds to voice and	Aug 07 01:02
TweetTuxMachines	gestures http://t.co/jvwc6kaUw1	Aug 07 01:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Shopping Lens (Scopes) Declared Legal in	Aug 07 01:03
TweetTuxMachines	UK and Most Likely in European Union	Aug 07 01:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Story Behind Acquisition of ‘MySQL’ by Sun	Aug 07 01:03
TweetTuxMachines	Microsystem and the Rise of ‘MariaDB’	Aug 07 01:03
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 07 01:50
DaemonFC	Part of the reason for the high price of the Mac is that when you idiot-proof something, then you always end up running into a bigger idiot.	Aug 07 01:50
DaemonFC	They wouldn't need to hire so many "geniuses" if their customers didn't need to go to the "genius bar" to figure out how to plug in a printer cable.	Aug 07 01:50
DaemonFC	I heard that Apple was changing the policy so that customers could get up to 15 minutes per issue instead of 15 minutes no matter how many issues they have.	Aug 07 01:50
DaemonFC	That sounds like they'll have their hands full. Anyone who would pay for a Mac has issues.	Aug 07 01:50
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DaemonFC	Does anyone know if you can hook up a case fan to a sata power cable?	Aug 07 04:13
DaemonFC	I guess I could hook the case fan's 3 pin to the included molex adapter and then hook the moles adapter up to a moles to sata adapter and plug the sata power cable into the sata end.	Aug 07 04:16
DaemonFC	good lord	Aug 07 04:16
DaemonFC	Now I need to find an adapter that hooks up to a SATA power cable and has a male molex on the other end.	Aug 07 04:44
DaemonFC	msb__, Little help here, bro? :)	Aug 07 04:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Computer Dating, Linux Style	Aug 07 09:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines China Issues Ban On iPad, MacBook Pro, And	Aug 07 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	Other Apple Products For Government Use	Aug 07 09:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qubes 2 RC2 Is Probably the Most Secure	Aug 07 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	Operating System in Existence – Gallery	Aug 07 11:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Android tablets (August 2014 edition)	Aug 07 11:46
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DaemonFC	Filling out a rebate form for my new graphics card.	Aug 07 11:56
DaemonFC	It's only for ten bucks, but ten bucks is ten bucks. :P	Aug 07 11:56
MinceR	geekings	Aug 07 11:56
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msb__	DaemonFC: Sorry I couldn't answer before. How can I help you?	Aug 07 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle Solaris 11.2 Officially Released	Aug 07 13:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma Addons - Where we are in Plasma5	Aug 07 13:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Update to KDE Frameworks 5	Aug 07 15:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2014.07 Arrives with Linux Kernel	Aug 07 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	3.15.4 and KDE 4.12.3 – Gallery	Aug 07 15:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.11 Pre2 Lands with Xfce, Openbox,	Aug 07 15:10
TweetTuxMachines	KDE, and NET Flavors – Gallery	Aug 07 15:10
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4528196	Aug 07 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: According to some reports, #cia has removed (censored) text about torture methods (inc. "improvised") because they're illegal, cruel		Aug 07 16:23
schestowitz	"I give them credit for writing it down in the first place."	Aug 07 16:23
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4528189	Aug 07 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nixon believed #CIA involved in #Kennedy Assassination http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/friendswood/opinion/pease-nixon-believed-cia-involved-in-kennedy-assassination/article_8da10f92-7cc3-5d45-8262-899ee2191d57.html		Aug 07 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.yourhoustonnews.com \| PEASE: Nixon believed CIA involved in Kennedy Assassination - Your Houston News: Opinion [ http://ur1.ca/hxg6y ]		Aug 07 16:24
schestowitz	"They got rid of him, in any case. Watergate wasn't a triumph of investigative journalism - the Washington Post was given the story on a plate - all the sources were White House sources."	Aug 07 16:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497384207371747329	Aug 07 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Bush-Era Officials Deny 'We Tortured Some Folks' http://t.co/73EFGFFITj good photo...		Aug 07 16:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Facebook Is Hiring To Make Linux Networking	Aug 07 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	Better Than FreeBSD http://t.co/j503XDsV3w	Aug 07 19:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.17 To Drop Old POWER Processor Support	Aug 07 19:08
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4528304	Aug 07 21:28
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4527866	Aug 07 21:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to take over natural resources (Latin America, M-E, and so on)? Create instability, allege intervention is needed. http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/06/shank-usaid-idINL2N0QC2EU20140806		Aug 07 21:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehurst: In 2014, Open	Aug 07 23:01
TweetTuxMachines	Source Innovation Is Going Mainstream	Aug 07 23:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Back Up Your PC with Clonezilla Live 2.2.3-30	Aug 07 23:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi 2 update management infrastructure to	Aug 07 23:01
TweetTuxMachines	land after Fedora 21 release	Aug 07 23:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines For Google, the Open and Less Open Channels for	Aug 07 23:01
TweetTuxMachines	Android are All Good http://t.co/d1CaDeBOtk	Aug 07 23:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Scale like Twitter with Apache Mesos	Aug 07 23:01
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DaemonFC	LOL	Aug 08 04:13
DaemonFC	This computer bought the farm. EIEIO!	Aug 08 04:14
msb__	DaemonFC: Sorry I couldn't answer before. How can I help you?	Aug 08 04:15
DaemonFC	I was just wondering the best way one can go about powering a case fan with a SATA power cable.	Aug 08 04:24
DaemonFC	If anyone knows.	Aug 08 04:24
DaemonFC	Every Windows user needs a Chromebook. It helps them look up problems on Google when Windows doesn't work.	Aug 08 04:30
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DaemonFC	This new video card is going to be one big hairy bear to get installed.	Aug 08 06:25
DaemonFC	I am NOT looking forward to this	Aug 08 06:25
DaemonFC	It's a nice card, but I don't see why it had to be 10.3" long. That's just crazy.	Aug 08 06:25
DaemonFC	Other companies get theirs in under 10". This is kind of sloppy if you ask me.	Aug 08 06:25
DaemonFC	Looks like Walmart doesn't carry cable ties. I might just use some of those twist ties from some loaves of bread.	Aug 08 06:27
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msb__	DaemonFC: If you can't find an adapter or cable in Frys or Amazon, get 2 cables, each with the connector you want on one end, cut them in half, and solder the good halves together.	Aug 08 07:30
msb__	DaemonFC: check the voltages on the molex end before you plug it into the fan.	Aug 08 07:31
msb__	DaemonFC: You can find the pinouts in wikipedia.	Aug 08 07:32
msb__	DaemonFC: or just get a molex splitter and plug it into another fan cable	Aug 08 07:34
DaemonFC	I might just not put one on.	Aug 08 07:50
DaemonFC	If the card ventilates out the back as well as my EVGA GTX 560 SC does, then like 80-90% of that heat should just go right out the back of the card and out into the room anyway.	Aug 08 07:50
DaemonFC	You jsut don't want to fuck around and end up having all that heat building up inside the case.	Aug 08 07:51
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roy	https://twitter.com/CasparBowden/status/497676683957518336	Aug 08 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CasparBowden: after Snowden only foolish governments would use proprietary operating systems MT @schestowitz http://t.co/a5JrdUCNRA #EUdatap		Aug 08 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Only Foolish Governments Would Choose Microsoft or Apple \| Techrights		Aug 08 10:44
roy	https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497668154165043200	Aug 08 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @aral @arepty @schestowitz is there a chart showing with numbers the rise of antisemitism in Europe since 1945? I keep hearing it's raising.		Aug 08 10:49
roy	https://twitter.com/arepty/status/497668474043650048	Aug 08 10:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@arepty: @blackjack75 @aral @schestowitz The article cites some numbers, but it’s not very extensive and doesn’t go back that far.		Aug 08 10:50
roy	A lot of it might actually be tied to immigration to Europe from north Africa and M-E	Aug 08 10:50
roy	https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497670057489858560	Aug 08 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @arepty @aral @schestowitz that's my point. Either it goes back down between articles or by now 50% of the pop are nazis.		Aug 08 10:51
roy	https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497670201618735104 https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497670867531616256	Aug 08 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @arepty @aral @schestowitz my personal perception is that true antisemitism is actually lower than it was 20 years ago.		Aug 08 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @arepty @aral @schestowitz now the criticism about Israeli army crimes is on the rise indeed. Maybe because they bomb civilians.		Aug 08 10:51
roy	https://twitter.com/chucker/status/497676160462254080	Aug 08 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chucker: @blackjack75 @aral @arepty @schestowitz a few stats: http://t.co/x0fSY5gsfN		Aug 08 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> wikiislam.net \| Muslim Statistics (Antisemitism) - WikiIslam		Aug 08 10:51
roy	https://twitter.com/JK5global/status/497678757017440256	Aug 08 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JK5global: @CasparBowden @schestowitz Francis Maude (Cabnt Office) making strenuous efforts to rid Whitehall of spyOS (MS) but insider oiks on the take		Aug 08 10:52
roy	Any links on that? I wrote numerous posts about British police and Army (and Bank of England) using OS with US back doors	Aug 08 10:53
roy	https://twitter.com/JK5global/status/497684774690238464	Aug 08 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JK5global: @schestowitz In early 90s MoD rolled out Unix across all services incl GCHQ. Motivation was security (from whom? don't know). Follow for DM		Aug 08 11:06
roy	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497685176559087616	Aug 08 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @JK5global CESG recommends #gnu #linux but a lot of the #uk government still uses #microsoft #windows (on desktops in particular)		Aug 08 11:06
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DaemonFC	It's nice of Sprint to hand me a bill crammed with bogus charges, and then when I call to deal with the problem, it's an automated response system that says "We all went home for the night, but you can use this system to pay your bill!".	Aug 08 11:35
roy	http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article46802.html	Aug 08 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketoracle.co.uk \| Why UK House Prices Will Continue Rising - 'It's Immigration Stupid' :: The Market Oracle :: Financial Markets Analysis & Forecasting Free Website [ http://ur1.ca/hxnfl ]		Aug 08 11:45
DaemonFC	roy, Meanwhile, meanwhile, the US is being overrun by illegal immigrant children who are coming here to exploit a law that says that each one of them is entitled to a deportation hearing.	Aug 08 11:51
DaemonFC	They know that the system is so backed up that the judge usually lets them go and tells them to come back for the hearing in five years.	Aug 08 11:51
DaemonFC	Over half of them never show up for the hearing, and most of the others claim asylum for some reason or another.	Aug 08 11:52
DaemonFC	Nobody wants to do anything about it because it's not politically correct.	Aug 08 11:53
DaemonFC	I've seen some people that are not in the United States criticizing us for not doing more for them. Well, you want to do more for them? Here. Have some. Really. You know?	Aug 08 11:54
DaemonFC	They don't offer to help, they just criticize us and then walk off.	Aug 08 11:54
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to MinceR		Aug 08 11:55
DaemonFC	Housing prices. Only people like me have to worry about housing prices and loans and all that. Between the government and the catholic church, you can get any house you want in Fort Wayne, as long as you're not an American.	Aug 08 11:57
DaemonFC	The city went through and spent millions of dollars renovating a bunch of houses, and then they started renting them out to people with low incomes with a thing that said they own the home after so many years. So, they move in and enjoy a nice low house payment while they're tearing the shit out of the house again.	Aug 08 11:58
DaemonFC	roy, But, housing prices went up here, at least, because people expected housing prices to go up, and the loan money was cheap for a while to ensnare people.	Aug 08 12:02
DaemonFC	So, you had a house that was costing very little on interest, or you could get a low interest mortgage on your existing house and blow all the money on your lifestyle inflation, and then the ARM trap was sprung, and everyone went underwater and started losing their houses.	Aug 08 12:03
DaemonFC	Everything that happened in 2008 was at least 10 years in planning.	Aug 08 12:03
DaemonFC	I do believe that there's some people running everything, and they plan stuff decades in advance, and they know exactly what will happen and when.	Aug 08 12:05
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DaemonFC	I got the issue worked out with Sprint. :P They said it was a glitch in their system and they reversed that part of the bill. I'm glad I keep an eagle eye on my bills. :)	Aug 08 12:23
DaemonFC	They want people on autopay so that they can take whatever they want and you won't notice it.	Aug 08 12:23
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533468	Aug 08 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why won't Obama fire the liar? http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/local/item/71321-why-wont-obama-fire-the-liar spooky photo		Aug 08 18:11
schestowitz	"siempre seguirán con la misma basura porque esas 2 coaliciones que tienen son los que mayor poder tienen y la gente confía en ellos... mientras sigan en el poder y sigan los diputados también en el poder nada se puede hacer... tienen que poner diputados que no sean de esas 2 coaliciones más poderosas y luego el presidente para realizar un cambio importante en la política externa e interna de ese país..."	Aug 08 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsworks.org \| Why won't Obama fire the liar? — NewsWorks		Aug 08 18:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4532300	Aug 08 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Yahoo will rely on a version of PGP or Pretty Good Privacy encryption" http://www.hngn.com/articles/38518/20140808/yahoo-offer-one-click-encryption-emails-2015.htm or just use #enigmail		Aug 08 18:11
schestowitz	"And how secure is it from Yahoo reading it all and passing it all along to the government? I'm guessing they're not using in-browser encryption..."	Aug 08 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hngn.com \| Yahoo To Offer One-Click Encryption For Emails By 2015 : News : Headlines & Global News		Aug 08 18:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4531923	Aug 08 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://s.likes-media.com/img/411de70e6882091cdd872b5f6639a151) #Image #Picture #Gif - Schrödinger's #cat is not happy		Aug 08 18:11
schestowitz	"Probably because Schrödinger keeps locking it in a box and trying to kill it..."	Aug 08 18:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4529615	Aug 08 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Oracle Solaris 11.2 Officially Released http://news.softpedia.com/news/Oracle-Solaris-11-2-Officially-Released-453897.shtml		Aug 08 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| Oracle Solaris 11.2 Officially Released [ http://ur1.ca/hxp2k ]		Aug 08 18:14
schestowitz	"Solaris is still a thing? Wow."	Aug 08 18:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533542	Aug 08 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "father was brutally tortured and two of her uncles were executed...settlement with British government" for silence http://ivn.us/2014/08/08/cia-radical-bureaucracy-requires-radical-reform/		Aug 08 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> ivn.us \| The CIA: A Radical Bureaucracy Requires Radical Reform \| IVN.us [ http://ur1.ca/hxp2o ]		Aug 08 18:15
schestowitz	"Radical"	Aug 08 18:15
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533876	Aug 08 18:17
schestowitz	"I wonder if the US senate knows that it's owned by the CIA."	Aug 08 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #hogwash from pro-military site #DefenseOne http://www.defenseone.com/politics/2014/08/cia-cant-hack-senate-computers-because-they-own-them-experts-say/90881/?oref=d-channelriver cracking Windows to take screenshots worse than "hacking"		Aug 08 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.defenseone.com \| The CIA Can’t Hack Senate Computers Because They Own Them, Experts Say - Defense One [ http://ur1.ca/hxp3a ]		Aug 08 18:17
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533748	Aug 08 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Going to war in some distant (invaded) country makes it OK to torture foreigners http://blogs.seattletimes.com/northwestvoices/2014/08/07/torture-dont-criticize-unless-youve-served-on-the-front-lines/		Aug 08 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blogs.seattletimes.com \| Torture: Don't criticize unless you've served on the front lines \| Northwest Voices \| Seattle Times [ http://ur1.ca/hxp8v ]		Aug 08 18:42
schestowitz	"I think the US is free to not leave US territory if does not like international laws."	Aug 08 18:42
MinceR	apparently others don't like international laws either	Aug 08 18:52
DaemonFC	I see that people are still running antivirus programs that they got from the pirate bay and cracked.	Aug 08 18:58
DaemonFC	doh!	Aug 08 18:58
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 18:58
DaemonFC	I think the funniest one I ever saw was where the pirates replaced the Avast Pro logo with a skull and crossbones in the about section and called it "Avast Pro: Pirate Edition".	Aug 08 19:00
MinceR	:)	Aug 08 19:04
MinceR	yarr!	Aug 08 19:04
DaemonFC	MinceR, Avast didn't used to protect their software very well, so all you needed was a serial that looked valid. So a lot of those serialz sites were passing them around.	Aug 08 19:05
DaemonFC	But at the same time, those sites were popping up IE windows and installing malware.	Aug 08 19:06
MinceR	a version of UniVBE had all three serials near the end of the executable in cleartext :>	Aug 08 19:06
MinceR	also, it doesn't matter how hard they'd try anyway, DRM doesn't work.	Aug 08 19:07
DaemonFC	true	Aug 08 19:07
MinceR	so they probably did the wise thing and didn't waste effort on it	Aug 08 19:07
DaemonFC	I used to turn Opera into the full version that way.	Aug 08 19:07
DaemonFC	It was 30 day demoware, but then they changed it to adware until you paid.	Aug 08 19:08
DaemonFC	Now it's just a broken copy of Chrome.	Aug 08 19:08
MinceR	i didn't mind the ads that much back then	Aug 08 19:08
MinceR	especially since i could turn it fullscreen or something and then then ad banner wasn't even there, iirc	Aug 08 19:08
MinceR	and shortly afterwards it became freeware	Aug 08 19:08
DaemonFC	It was using a lot of my screen at the time.	Aug 08 19:09
MinceR	:)	Aug 08 19:09
DaemonFC	Low-res CRT monitor. Ewww.	Aug 08 19:09
MinceR	s/en a/e a/	Aug 08 19:09
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UniVBE	Aug 08 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| UniVBE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Aug 08 19:11
DaemonFC	"Many video cards have sub-par implementations of the VESA standards, or no support at all."	Aug 08 19:11
DaemonFC	Just enough to boot the computer in many cases.	Aug 08 19:11
DaemonFC	They don't really care what DOS applications do.	Aug 08 19:11
DaemonFC	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424175,00.asp	Aug 08 19:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcmag.com \| AVG AntiVirus FREE 2014 Review & Rating \| PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/hxpeq ]		Aug 08 19:14
DaemonFC	"Some users may object to numerous upsell attempts."	Aug 08 19:14
DaemonFC	Well, yeah. It's aggravating, but it's what happens when you go with the free version. Its purpose is to nag you to death until you fork over money.	Aug 08 19:14
DaemonFC	"just let avg update to 2014 today and now my graphics driver is crashing. getting 116 stop error on nvlddmkm.sys my laptop has bluescreened 3x in the past hour. i tried uninstalling avg but the uninstaller keeps crashing."	Aug 08 19:18
DaemonFC	Well, that sounds like fun.	Aug 08 19:18
MinceR	lol	Aug 08 19:18
MinceR	that sounds like a typical windows system	Aug 08 19:18
DaemonFC	Well, Vista at least.	Aug 08 19:19
DaemonFC	That's the only one I had where it would crash constantly.	Aug 08 19:19
DaemonFC	Other than Windows 98.	Aug 08 19:19
MinceR	if it doesn't crash constantly, it drops the ball constantly in a different way :>	Aug 08 19:20
DaemonFC	8.1 hasn't been so bad	Aug 08 19:21
MinceR	8.1 hasn't been inflicted on me yet.	Aug 08 19:22
MinceR	i hope it will stay that way.	Aug 08 19:22
DaemonFC	Windows Update is somewhat lulzy.	Aug 08 19:22
DaemonFC	It'll occasionally fail to install an update and not tell you.	Aug 08 19:22
DaemonFC	There's a procedure for getting it to install the "spring update" when that one fails.	Aug 08 19:22
DaemonFC	"I have been using AVG for years, and it is about to go out the window. It keeps installing it own toolbar and repeatedly switches my default search to AVG safe search even though I changed the settings numerous times. My system performance has taken a hit, and it has new 'helpful' pop up feature to tell me things I didn't ask.	Aug 08 19:23
DaemonFC	AVG has crossed the line from Malware cleaner into actual Malware."	Aug 08 19:23
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 19:24
DaemonFC	I used to use AVG. They were actually quite good. No nags or disabled feature buttons that made it obvious you were using the free version.	Aug 08 19:25
DaemonFC	I guess they turned into a bunch of greedy cocks with awful software.	Aug 08 19:25
MinceR	they adapted to the rest of the AV industry :>	Aug 08 19:26
DaemonFC	MinceR, Apparently, Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Defender took a dive too.	Aug 08 19:27
DaemonFC	Remember when that was new and people were talking about how fast it was and how it detected and stopped almost all malware.	Aug 08 19:28
DaemonFC	Now it's failing to detect a bunch of malware that's a month old. :)	Aug 08 19:28
MinceR	remember when it decided that claria wasn't malware anymore when m$ considered acquiring them	Aug 08 19:28
MinceR	it's about as trustworthy as anything else from m$.	Aug 08 19:28
DaemonFC	I remember the Gator spyware.	Aug 08 19:30
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DaemonFC	I actually installed some "freeware" from their site about 16 years ago, not knowing what it was.	Aug 08 19:30
MinceR	gator, claria, same company :>	Aug 08 19:31
DaemonFC	yeah	Aug 08 19:31
DaemonFC	just like the Philip Morris cigarette company is Altria now.	Aug 08 19:31
DaemonFC	MinceR, I can't believe that PC World is recommending Chinese anti-virus software.	Aug 08 19:34
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DaemonFC	That has to be a new low.	Aug 08 19:34
MinceR	maybe they're being paid by them	Aug 08 19:35
DaemonFC	possibly	Aug 08 19:35
MinceR	is it lower than IDG shilling m$?	Aug 08 19:35
DaemonFC	I figure that maybe some of the anti-Windows Defender/MSE stories might be coming from the paid antivirus companies.	Aug 08 19:35
DaemonFC	They're all desperate to get your money, so they could just be paying off these "labs" to make MSE/WD fail the test.	Aug 08 19:36
DaemonFC	I thought about picking up a copy of McAfee Internet Security, MinceR.	Aug 08 19:38
DaemonFC	Just because you got it free after rebate, plus Newegg tossed in a $10 gift card.	Aug 08 19:38
DaemonFC	Then I saw people complaining that they sent in the rebate form and never got their money back.	Aug 08 19:38
DaemonFC	Not just one. A bunch of people.	Aug 08 19:38
MinceR	it's horribly crap	Aug 08 19:40
DaemonFC	So, they haven't improved since Intel bought them?	Aug 08 19:41
DaemonFC	http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/07/technology/security/intel-mcafee/	Aug 08 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-money.cnn.com \| Intel renames its tainted McAfee brand - Jan. 7, 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/hxpj2 ]		Aug 08 19:42
DaemonFC	LOL	Aug 08 19:42
MinceR	i'm not sure if the version that's foisted on me is newer than that	Aug 08 19:42
MinceR	at least the new brand can be shortened to InSecurity	Aug 08 19:42
DaemonFC	I'm just not having any of it. Their antivirus software is worse than actual malware.	Aug 08 19:43
DaemonFC	There was so much bloatware on this computer before I formatted it and started over from a clean copy of the installer, that it was just fucking horrible.	Aug 08 19:48
DaemonFC	Acer really loads the machines up with a triple dose of crapware.	Aug 08 19:49
DaemonFC	It was worse than the worst Dell crapware job I've ever seen, and there was McAfee there too.	Aug 08 19:49
DaemonFC	They had all this Intel "management" crap popping up asking me to pay for theft protection.	Aug 08 19:49
DaemonFC	Then there was this animated coffee cup that kept popping up on my desktop for some reason, and popping up dialog balloons asking me to register it.	Aug 08 19:50
DaemonFC	All kind of shit.	Aug 08 19:50
MinceR	lol	Aug 08 19:52
DaemonFC	MinceR, I removed the Realtek audio driver bundle to get rid of their crapplet volume mixer, and it garbled my audio.	Aug 08 19:55
MinceR	ugh	Aug 08 19:56
DaemonFC	It's working fine now from the clean install I did from a retail ISO.	Aug 08 19:56
DaemonFC	They had some kind of equalizer software called Creative something-or-other that loaded a splash screen every time you boot Windows.	Aug 08 19:57
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DaemonFC	It was almost funny how badly they made a Core i7 system with 12 GB of RAM run.	Aug 08 19:57
MinceR	that's what the windows school of IT gives you...	Aug 08 19:58
MinceR	all the apps have to have a different skin, have to start at boot and have to put themselves everywhere and conflict with all the other apps	Aug 08 19:58
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MinceR	and no proper package management with signing	Aug 08 19:59
DaemonFC	Dell said that without crapware, the computers wouldn't be so affordable.	Aug 08 20:00
DaemonFC	Like $300 worth of components that retails for $600 affordable, like they have now....	Aug 08 20:00
MinceR	also, with proper support, dHell computers wouldn't be so affordable, i'm guessing	Aug 08 20:01
DaemonFC	They make their highest profit margins on their cheapest computers.	Aug 08 20:01
DaemonFC	Once you're down to Dell's lowest end stuff, you're talking about processors that RETAIL for $40 and motherboards that RETAIL for $50-60.	Aug 08 20:02
DaemonFC	On their systems with dedicated graphics cards, they buy cheap AMD Radeon leftovers in packs of 100.	Aug 08 20:03
DaemonFC	Like the thing Acer crammed into this computer.	Aug 08 20:03
DaemonFC	That card is going on ebay as soon as I get my R9 270X working.	Aug 08 20:03
DaemonFC	I probably won't get anything for it. 7770s are not worth a lot of money, and there are people there selling the same OEM cards in bulk.	Aug 08 20:04
DaemonFC	I wonder how they got 1,000 Dell-branded RadeonHD 7770s that were supposed to be installed into Dell computers, anyway.....	Aug 08 20:04
DaemonFC	Of course, with that card, we should be reading about how they broke into a Dell warehouse and put them all back.	Aug 08 20:05
DaemonFC	I'm just hoping I can make the new card fit. I thought 10.3" was massive (the Vapor X that I have coming), but then I noticed that they make one called a "Toxic" and that's over a foot long. Christ....	Aug 08 20:06
DaemonFC	It's not a card that needs a foot long cooler on it.	Aug 08 20:07
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 20:07
DaemonFC	Do they make a case that you can put that in?	Aug 08 20:07
MinceR	there are huge cases	Aug 08 20:07
MinceR	meant for servers and such	Aug 08 20:07
DaemonFC	Oh, I'm sure they do, but damn.	Aug 08 20:07
DaemonFC	12.5"?	Aug 08 20:07
MinceR	dunno	Aug 08 20:08
MinceR	that's the screen size of my tablet pc	Aug 08 20:08
DaemonFC	My computer would be all like "There's no way you're putting that in me!" and I'd be like "I guess I can see your point.".	Aug 08 20:08
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 20:08
MinceR	that's what she said.	Aug 08 20:08
DaemonFC	mmhm	Aug 08 20:08
DaemonFC	seriously. A 12.5" long graphics card.	Aug 08 20:09
DaemonFC	The Dual-X is only 9.8", and that's really all it needs to be. The card isn't a turbo powered $500 card or anything.	Aug 08 20:09
DaemonFC	The only reason I got the Vapor-X is because it went on sale much cheaper than the Dual-X and the bigger cooler is constructed better which allows for overclocking.	Aug 08 20:10
DaemonFC	In fact, it comes overclocked, but there's not much you're going to goose out of it.	Aug 08 20:10
DaemonFC	The overclocked model with the nicer cooler only benchmarks about 3% better than the base model.	Aug 08 20:11
DaemonFC	MinceR, That's actually what made the decision in favor of the card I have now. It went on one of those super sales and it was already overclocked, so it was up there with the 560 Ti on performance, but much much cheaper.	Aug 08 20:12
MinceR	:)	Aug 08 20:12
DaemonFC	Nvidia sets the pricing on the Ti models so much higher, that it's cheaper for OEMs to overclock them, stick a better cooler on them, and then tell you that their overclocked model is the same performance as a Ti for much less.	Aug 08 20:13
DaemonFC	I mean, overclock the base model.	Aug 08 20:13
DaemonFC	It's true. I haven't had any stability problems out of this card.	Aug 08 20:14
DaemonFC	Nvidia doesn't get to dictate what OEMs tell the firmware performance profiles to default to as far as clock speeds go..	Aug 08 20:16
DaemonFC	They just set the pricing on the chipset and then the vendors do whatever they want with them.	Aug 08 20:16
DaemonFC	AMD does much the same thing. So, there's a huge difference between the same Radeon model from different vendors, and it can be maddening trying to figure it out.	Aug 08 20:17
DaemonFC	They're all off a bit from AMD's official specification. :P	Aug 08 20:17
DaemonFC	I wish that AMD and Nvidia would just direct market their own cards and stop the madness.	Aug 08 20:18
DaemonFC	http://gizmodo.com/5392862/acers-bloatware-adds-2%252B-minutes-to-boot-time-hp-dell-and-sony-not-much-better	Aug 08 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com \| Acer's Bloatware Adds 2+ Minutes to Boot Time, HP, Dell and Sony Not Much Better [ http://ur1.ca/hxpqo ]		Aug 08 20:25
DaemonFC	"Acer: 2:01 longer boot time, 952MB larger memory footprint, 2.4GB less HDD space	Aug 08 20:28
DaemonFC	"	Aug 08 20:28
DaemonFC	sounds about right	Aug 08 20:28
DaemonFC	MinceR, That was one of the get a mac ads that made me laugh.	Aug 08 20:30
DaemonFC	The bloatware one.	Aug 08 20:30
DaemonFC	I see that Democracy 3 is still popular. That game sucked. They always killed me for turning it into a socialist paradise.	Aug 08 20:31
DaemonFC	Ungrateful bastards!	Aug 08 20:31
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schestowitz	http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1406751511291708_tall.jpg	Aug 08 21:43
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4534221 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4534318 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4534318 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/45343184	Aug 08 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Links 8/8/2014: Qt a Separate Company Again, KDE Frameworks 5.1 Released http://techrights.org/2014/08/08/kde-frameworks-5-1-released/ #techrights		Aug 08 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Links 8/8/2014: Qt a Separate Company Again, KDE Frameworks 5.1 Released \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/hxqaa ]		Aug 08 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Turin to Be First Italian City to Adopt Ubuntu, Unshackle from the “Tyranny of Proprietary Software” http://news.softpedia.com/news/Turin-to-Be-First-Italian-City-to-Adopt-Ubuntu-Unshackle-from-the-quot-Tyranny-of-Proprietary-Software-quot-454152.shtml #italy #gnu #linux		Aug 08 21:45
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sebsebseb	schestowitz: ping	Aug 08 22:25
schestowitz	pong	Aug 08 22:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497856624393191425 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497856404569722880 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497856253285380097	Aug 08 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Decline in demand for #microsoft #windows (laptops) http://t.co/6lB0SiPzYQ		Aug 08 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.digitimes.com \| Digitimes Research: Top-5 vendors, top-3 ODMs see sequential drops in July notebook shipments		Aug 08 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #MediaTek posts strong sales in July http://t.co/IzdcUQell6 #china #linux #android		Aug 08 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.digitimes.com \| MediaTek posts strong sales in July		Aug 08 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Xiaomi becomes China’s top smart phone vendor http://t.co/H7eR8vkTsP #china #linux		Aug 08 22:30
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497855644255674368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497855505638100994 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497855302667362304 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497853972590624768	Aug 08 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Android 4.4.4 Kitkat OS update to roll out for Moto X on AT&T by end of month http://t.co/Cikje80viT #android #linux		Aug 08 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Autonomous Android smartwatch ships http://t.co/X6tAVtvlOo #android #linux		Aug 08 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Intel Is Already Working On Linux Graphics Support For Skylake http://t.co/VApEbLjhAc #intel #linux #graphics		Aug 08 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Knoppix 7.4.0 Arrives with Linux Kernel 3.15.6 http://t.co/9nmyOzscYE #knoppix #gnu #linux #debian		Aug 08 22:31
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497852866661744642 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497851445484740608 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497851235861819394 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497850820856397824	Aug 08 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Loaded headline from FOSS-hostile #idg provocateur: let's pretend #apple is on the rise, a false supposition http://t.co/qomeb3Jtku		Aug 08 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Security expert calls home routers a clear and present danger http://t.co/cVSt19N5Xe many are found to have #backdoors		Aug 08 22:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #apple not scary, just scared http://t.co/ncHlGqaQBQ #swpats #android #linux		Aug 08 22:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Obama Speaks Out As #FCC Releases #NetNeutrality Comments http://t.co/okmOmlHSpx #internet		Aug 08 22:32
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497850427120304129 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497850128548765696 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497849861082218497	Aug 08 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Microsoft's Xbox One Is Failing http://t.co/8cSFX7BVtE #microsoft #xbox		Aug 08 22:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497845388167356416	Aug 08 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> seekingalpha.com \| Microsoft's Xbox One Is Failing - Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT) \| Seeking Alpha		Aug 08 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Big four carriers accused of violating the only remaining #netneutrality rule http://t.co/WB9EP1nior the 1% gets its way, again. #internet		Aug 08 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com \| Big four carriers accused of violating the only remaining net neutrality rule \| Ars Technica		Aug 08 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Wikimedia votes to decide who owns #monkey selfie http://t.co/rBZaRjX3r5 #copyright		Aug 08 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Wikimedia votes to decide who owns monkey selfie - Telegraph		Aug 08 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Shrugs http://t.co/XbC69kujXb		Aug 08 22:32
sebsebseb	schestowitz: well already replied to her now, but what are you meant to say when someone woman online asks you what your life style and fashion is?	Aug 08 22:34
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atheenah	i found silverlight for linux	Aug 08 22:45
atheenah	https://app.box.com/s/1n3yobdl8mlsu21yj5o6	Aug 08 22:45
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atheenah	also flash 14 in a deb	Aug 08 22:46
atheenah	https://app.box.com/s/mj76blbfevr2e5a5a0zx	Aug 08 22:46
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atheenah	I love alien I can now upload tarballs well converted tarballs	Aug 08 22:48
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DaemonFC	Yeah, I need a case fan, but all I have for power is a sata power cable because of Acer's stupid power supply, so I ordered a sata to molex adapter cable off of Newegg and I'll run the case fan off of that.	Aug 09 00:23
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MinceR	gn	Aug 09 01:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Free Software on the final frontier: GNU Radio	Aug 09 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by controls the ISEE-3 Spacecraft	Aug 09 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto http://t.co/OuRiWa8IEk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxsmk	Aug 09 05:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Which Linux Desktop Environment Should You Use?	Aug 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Hwo7RCVxET (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxt1q	Aug 09 06:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Peppermint OS 5: Light, Refreshing Linux	Aug 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sIJBhRmXtL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxt1r	Aug 09 06:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine Announcement http://t.co/2Nctut4E9g	Aug 09 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxt1s	Aug 09 06:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Peppermint OS Reviewed, GNU Radio in Space, and	Aug 09 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	KNOPPIX 7.4.0 http://t.co/ivix18t2vX	Aug 09 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxv3t	Aug 09 12:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Security Threats on the Rise	Aug 09 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ePTh8y4Mnk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 12:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle Embargoes FLOSS (Java)…	Aug 09 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UcgRkZZUJo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 12:58
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MinceR	geekings	Aug 09 14:23
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*TweetTuxMachines @RedditArchLinux favourited 'Linux Security Threats on the Rise http://t.co/ePTh8y4Mnk'		Aug 09 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Flock 2014 Day 3: Building an application	Aug 09 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	installer from the ground up	Aug 09 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iesqa3RDGJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 16:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxvz0	Aug 09 16:26
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MinceR	http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2014/07-JUL/MAD-Magazine-Putin-Sharknado2_53ce7e3731de60.84763420.jpg	Aug 09 17:36
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4536566	Aug 09 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Securely' sending data to #microsoft to "dodge spies" makes as much sense as paying the Mafia "protection money" to demolish the Mafia		Aug 09 17:58
schestowitz	""Nice database youse got dere ... be a shame if it wuz to be compromised!""	Aug 09 17:58
schestowitz	MinceR: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4531690	Aug 09 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Russian Ministry of Health to Replace #Microsoft and #Oracle Products with #Linux and #PostgreSQL http://news.softpedia.com/news/Russian-Ministry-of-Health-to-Replace-Microsoft-and-Oracle-Product-with-Linux-and-PostgreSQL-453909.shtml		Aug 09 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| Russian Ministry of Health to Replace Microsoft and Oracle Products with Linux and PostgreSQL [ http://ur1.ca/hxnx6 ]		Aug 09 17:59
schestowitz	"@url=http://cronostech.no-ip.org/u/cronos]Cronos[/url], oh, that's right. I am a commie four times then :-P."	Aug 09 17:59
schestowitz	"@Cronos, oh, that's right. I am a commie four times then :-P."	Aug 09 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ http://cronostech.no-ip.org/u/cronos]Cronos[/url )		Aug 09 17:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice is coming to Android	Aug 09 18:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pecEyZkRLq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 18:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why is Skype forcing a software upgrade on all	Aug 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	of us? http://t.co/ei93BGChVg	Aug 09 18:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 18:18
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4536603	Aug 09 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Tried To Delete Court Transcript In Lawsuit Over Deleting Evidence http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/08/nsa-tried-to-delete-court-transcript-in-lawsuit-over-deleting-evidence/ #nsa #coverup		Aug 09 18:21
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schestowitz	"Sometimes this all just goes beyond ironic and into being outright farce."	Aug 09 18:21
schestowitz	"Sometimes?'	Aug 09 18:21
schestowitz	"Touché"	Aug 09 18:21
schestowitz	"It's just like everything the state does now. I'm really never surprised. The only good news is coming from judges who are acting out of a sense of preservation because they know if the executive branch gets too strong they are out of a job and probably forced into exile, at the least."	Aug 09 18:21
schestowitz	"Well, I wouldn't say I was surprised. It's more that the extreme irony of this particular fact being pointed out, is pretty over the top. We know they're up to much worse than this, but most of it just isn't quite so ironic."	Aug 09 18:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD A10-7800 & A6-7400K APUs Run Great On Linux	Aug 09 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/r3CKFD37Dq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxxf7	Aug 09 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| AMD A10-7800 & A6-7400K APUs Run Great On Linux \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Starts Petition on	Aug 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jYqG5Q2Syq (Change.org) Addressed	Aug 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	to http://t.co/iWGDTgClYC (Change.org) Against	Aug 09 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Change.org \| NO TITLE		Aug 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	Impersonating http://t.co/PBLH3QZtEU	Aug 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxxf8	Aug 09 20:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Over a Month On - Conclusion to the GNOME Shell	Aug 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	Challenge http://t.co/zzsJPLpRJU	Aug 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxxf9	Aug 09 20:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Two Intel Graphics Features Get Pulled From	Aug 09 23:09
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.17 http://t.co/WWUG4QoTFw	Aug 09 23:09
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy97	Aug 09 23:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Ubuntu Touch Internet Browser Has Been	Aug 09 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	Redesigned http://t.co/0kxwCcAG5P	Aug 09 23:10
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9b	Aug 09 23:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.1.0 and Plasma 5.0.1 on the	Aug 09 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	horizon http://t.co/GrW3tnLWRF	Aug 09 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9d	Aug 09 23:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/wUusHqAmkf	Aug 09 23:10
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9g	Aug 09 23:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/jyUUZ4kuL7	Aug 09 23:10
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9h	Aug 09 23:10
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 03 01:05
DaemonFC	http://www.welivesecurity.com/2014/03/21/10-years-of-mac-os-x-malware/	Aug 03 01:05
DaemonFC	Even their malware is pretty. LOL	Aug 03 01:05
DaemonFC	This isn't a complete list. I've seen some rather interesting Mac malware. There are some huge-ish Mac botnets out there, mostly just coming from one or two highly pirated pieces of software. (Microsoft Office for Mac and Adobe Photoshop.).	Aug 03 01:05
DaemonFC	I wonder why people even use Photoshop sometimes. Obviously, 95% of the people you see with it don't need it. You really have to wonder how they got Adobe Photoshop full edition and Windows Ultimate on a Dell Inspiron. I don't think they come with those.... Well, no, you don't have to wonder how they got it. They got it under the terms of the PBPL, of course. ;)	Aug 03 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.welivesecurity.com \| 10 years of Mac OS X malware [ http://ur1.ca/hw9ls ]		Aug 03 01:05
DaemonFC	It's nice to see some ***hole on a Mac will happily pay over a thousand dollars for a toothless computer, and then try to balance the ledger by stealing software.	Aug 03 01:05
DaemonFC	The Macs aren't particularly useful individually, for mining bitcoins, but you've got a bunch of systems that are sitting ducks and have some processing power shared between them, so it's obvious why the malware problem is there.	Aug 03 01:05
DaemonFC	Maybe someone can answer this for me since I haven't upgraded RAM in a very long time.	Aug 03 01:22
DaemonFC	I have three 4 GB DDR3-1600 modules in my motherboard, 1.5v, 11-11-11-30.	Aug 03 01:22
DaemonFC	I found a 4 GB module of another brand on Newegg that says 4 GB DDR3-1600, 1.5v, 11-11-11-28.	Aug 03 01:23
DaemonFC	Will it work?	Aug 03 01:23
DaemonFC	Doesn't seem to be a huge difference.	Aug 03 01:25
DaemonFC	I know I've gotten away with mixing and matching RAM before on older DDR RAM, but I am not really up to speed on what's changed.	Aug 03 01:26
DaemonFC	http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adata-DDR3-12800-4GB-240PIN-Ram-Module-HP-Certified-Replacement-Part-/171402661617?pt=US_Memory_RAM_&hash=item27e8650ef1	Aug 03 02:42
DaemonFC	Opinions?	Aug 03 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebay.com \| ADATA DDR3 12800 4GB 240pin RAM Module HP Certified Replacement Part \| eBay		Aug 03 02:42
DaemonFC	I don't know if it'll work properly, but if it's only gonna be a few bucks, I could take the chance.	Aug 03 02:42
DaemonFC	I'm probably gonna take the closest RAM I can find. I can't find an exact match for the modules that are in there, but ADATA and Team seem to have RAM that is very close.	Aug 03 03:27
DaemonFC	Obviously I want to maximize the chances that it works. :P	Aug 03 03:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Randa Meetings Interview Four: Myriam	Aug 03 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	Schweingruber http://t.co/aJENyKOVWx	Aug 03 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwai6	Aug 03 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Randa Meetings Interview Four: Myriam Schweingruber \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Let's Use Linux and Android SDK for Better	Aug 03 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	Android App Development http://t.co/yKqRg1Gb0t	Aug 03 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwaqs	Aug 03 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Let's Use Linux and Android SDK for Better Android App Development \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Lightweight Graphical Email Clients	Aug 03 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HpUNjAOSTB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwaqu	Aug 03 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Best Lightweight Graphical Email Clients \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 07:15
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DaemonFC	http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-acer-116-chromebook-with-14ghz-dual-core-processor?&utm_campaign=200011&utm_medium=afl&utm_source=GPN&z=skip	Aug 03 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.groupon.com \| Acer 11.6" Chromebook with 1.4GHz Dual-Core Processor Deal of the Day \| Groupon [ http://ur1.ca/hwawy ]		Aug 03 07:57
DaemonFC	Groupon has Acer C720-D Chromebooks for $129.99 right now.	Aug 03 07:57
DaemonFC	That's a good deal. Love mine.	Aug 03 07:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Image #157 Comes With Mir And	Aug 03 08:24
TweetTuxMachines	Unity 8 Improvements, Among Others	Aug 03 08:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/M1plQc9wdQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 08:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwb0l	Aug 03 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch Image #157 Comes With Mir And Unity 8 Improvements, Among Others \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 08:24
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schestowitz	http://www.newsfactor.com/blog_article.php?aid=5643709	Aug 03 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsfactor.com \| NewsFactor Network \| Best Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/hwb31 ]		Aug 03 08:46
schestowitz	Been anti-Snowden for ages	Aug 03 08:46
schestowitz	the writers all the tim	Aug 03 08:46
schestowitz	time	Aug 03 08:46
schestowitz	also anti-Wikileaks	Aug 03 08:46
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Sosumi	and it is true	Aug 03 15:26
Sosumi	portugal's most insolvent bank is to be bailed out by less insolvent banks	Aug 03 15:26
Sosumi	what can go possibly go wrong	Aug 03 15:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines When Linux Was Perfect Enough	Aug 03 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OTsry6NpD3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 19:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwd9t	Aug 03 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| When Linux Was Perfect Enough \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A year without Windows and a new love of Linux	Aug 03 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xaDLW2YXBp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwd9v	Aug 03 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A year without Windows and a new love of Linux \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The GPLv3 GPU Is Now Available	Aug 03 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/42nwMzARzA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwd9w	Aug 03 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The GPLv3 GPU Is Now Available \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 19:21
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MinceR	how are you gentlemen !!	Aug 03 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.23 released http://t.co/bifqqulpbE	Aug 03 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwdfj	Aug 03 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Wine 1.7.23 released \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/5vV90nvSzx (www.x.org) Server 1.16,	Aug 03 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Rootless X Now Available For Arch Linux	Aug 03 19:56
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TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fGUQdNU2Sp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwdfs	Aug 03 19:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 10.2.5 http://t.co/9OjMXcDq34	Aug 03 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwdfv	Aug 03 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mesa 10.2.5 \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 19:56
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prometeo	Hi Roy I am woritting to you because of your article: The European Patent Office is Breaking the Law Regarding Software Patents, German Parliament Finally Complains	Aug 03 20:03
prometeo	In addition to that there are some other issues in the EPO working that worries to me.	Aug 03 20:04
prometeo	First. I wonder if EPO is an Organization that applies Equal Opportutinties Jobs or make unethical discriminations among candidates. I am talking because of my own experience	Aug 03 20:05
prometeo	Sencond if they have t be so rude and unpolite. They don't answer jobs applications. Just in the case you want a visit with Human RElationships department. the guard and the main entrance tells you that he doesn't know thwere is the HHRR.	Aug 03 20:07
prometeo	Third. It is very sad for an European citicenz to see how EU institutions are surrendering to USA companies interest	Aug 03 20:08
prometeo	I say so mainly because the new CPC patent classification, has elicted the A61P relavite to therapeutic drug activity. I can not think what is the reason	Aug 03 20:09
prometeo	If you wnat to write to me you can reach me in manuel.cornejo.m[at]gmail.com	Aug 03 20:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Features Of Linux 3.16	Aug 03 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UGyB1v3cpP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwdjg	Aug 03 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Best Features Of Linux 3.16 \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Updates SteamOS and Fixes the	Aug 03 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	Custom-Built Compositor http://t.co/OEbqRl7Ocf	Aug 03 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwdjh	Aug 03 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Valve Updates SteamOS and Fixes the Custom-Built Compositor \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moto G Problems From Android 4.4 KitKat Update:	Aug 03 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	Battery Drain, Airplane Mode Problems	Aug 03 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rDkAwjoivl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 20:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwdji	Aug 03 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Moto G Problems From Android 4.4 KitKat Update: Battery Drain, Airplane Mode Problems \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 20:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Create your own custom distro images from	Aug 03 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	Distroshare http://t.co/R248hoidW7	Aug 03 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwenz	Aug 03 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Create your own custom distro images from Distroshare \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/zgHRnz04K2	Aug 03 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hweo3	Aug 03 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/kiHlRWy53f	Aug 03 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 23:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hweo7	Aug 03 23:21
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MinceR	gn	Aug 04 00:29
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 04 00:36
DaemonFC	The iPhone only comes with 1 gig of RAM too.	Aug 04 00:36
DaemonFC	All in all, the iPhone is to smartphones as Internet Explorer 6 was to web browsers.	Aug 04 00:36
DaemonFC	The reason millions of people started bailing is because Android pulled ahead years ago, and now Apple is going around trying to copy as many Android features as they can, but some of the iPhone's most crippling and aggravating limitations are going to survive at least into iPhone 6 and iOS 8. It just won't be as painful. But for that price, do you really want a painful and limited phone? Should people be paying $600-850 on a phone and then	Aug 04 00:36
DaemonFC	making compromises with things like screen resolutions? At that price, they should expect quad HD now. The LG G3 really set a new bar for what a phone should be.	Aug 04 00:36
DaemonFC	2 seconds ago	Aug 04 01:33
DaemonFC	.	Aug 04 01:33
DaemonFC	I like tormenting people who are hawking Apple garbage on Craigslist sometimes by making fun of them for trying to sell their old unsupported garbage for like $500.	Aug 04 01:33
DaemonFC	I always offer to haul it away for free. You all should probably see some of the hatemail that I get.	Aug 04 01:33
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MinceR	:)	Aug 04 05:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/XecV8kYwxi	Aug 04 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/496072710489772032	Aug 04 07:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 3.16, Get	Aug 04 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	While It's Hot http://t.co/5vN15cdXXs	Aug 04 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwh0b	Aug 04 09:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What owning your personal cloud means for the	Aug 04 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	open source movement http://t.co/4Kbl4lIBXy	Aug 04 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwh0e	Aug 04 09:12
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MinceR	geekings	Aug 04 09:33
DaemonFC	Wow, these new CPUs are amazing.	Aug 04 11:14
DaemonFC	All that power at my disposal and it only uses 68 watts.	Aug 04 11:14
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MinceR	http://www.ebay.de/itm/Patch-KEEP-CALM-and-WAIT-FOR-RUSSIANS-on-velcro-/331256249493?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d20693c95	Aug 04 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebay.de \| Patch "KEEP CALM and WAIT FOR RUSSIANS" on velcro \| eBay		Aug 04 19:13
schestowitz_bed2	> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-rettinger/microsofts-four-biggest-problems_b_5641212.html	Aug 04 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com \| Microsoft's 4 Biggest Problems \| Jonathan Rettinger [ http://ur1.ca/hwnjh ]		Aug 04 19:16
schestowitz_bed2	>	Aug 04 19:16
schestowitz_bed2	> spam	Aug 04 19:16
schestowitz_bed2	I didn't read beyond the sub-headlines. It sounds like some blog from a supposedly knowledge-able Microsoft lover. He promises to help Microsoft fix its operations...	Aug 04 19:16
schestowitz_bed2	MinceR: wow	Aug 04 19:47
schestowitz_bed2	for a moment there I thought it was some real book	Aug 04 19:47
MinceR	:>	Aug 04 19:48
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 05 04:39
DaemonFC	Trying to transfer everything over to Apple's system is like watching the last chapter of The Shawshank Redemption in reverse.	Aug 05 04:39
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4509207	Aug 05 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Best Lightweight Graphical Email Clients http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20140802104742756/LightweightEmailClients.html #email		Aug 05 07:37
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schestowitz__	"To be fair, it is running about 6 email addresses, a couple of which have gigabytes of email..."	Aug 05 07:37
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4513523	Aug 05 07:37
schestowitz__	"This seems misleading, like a shell game. JP Morgan branches are mentioned more than once. Who owns the banks? If the banks and institutions listed were really independent would the news organization be as uniform and out of whack as they are? Power and media ownership seems far more concentrated as this article indicates."	Aug 05 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The owners of #usatoday (Gannett) is no exception: http://www.niemanlab.org/2011/03/who-owns-newspaper-companies-the-banks-funds-and-investors-and-their-big-slices-of-the-industry/ watch "Berkshire Hathaway" at top		Aug 05 07:37
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DaemonFC	http://www.ebay.com/itm/Msi-7870-Ghz-Edition/291205855751?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D8812462572084243932%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D291205855751	Aug 05 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebay.com \| MSI 7870 GHz Edition \| eBay [ http://ur1.ca/hwrzz ]		Aug 05 09:24
DaemonFC	He says it's listed as broken but only shows artifacts in one game.	Aug 05 09:24
DaemonFC	I might risk a few bucks on it.	Aug 05 09:24
-mquin-[Global Notice] Coming up this Saturday the 9th in Philadelphia PA, the 5th annual FOSSCON. Check out the speaker schedule at http://fosscon.us/Speakers, and register to attend at http://fosscon.us/Attend.		Aug 05 10:39
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DaemonFC	I'm bidding on a RadeonHD 7870.	Aug 05 11:38
DaemonFC	If I can get it at the right price, it should make a nice upgrade from my Geforce 560 GTX	Aug 05 11:39
DaemonFC	The 560 GTX is struggling on RAGE. Of course, that game was widely ridiculed for being horribly ported to the PC and not optimized properly.	Aug 05 11:40
DaemonFC	I'm sick of all these companies dropping broken games on the PC that crash and hang and stutter on decent hardware. :P	Aug 05 11:40
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DaemonFC	The 7870 could be a good card if I snag it at the right price.	Aug 05 12:09
DaemonFC	I'm probably going to put a batch of my old video cards on ebay when I get something newer.	Aug 05 12:10
DaemonFC	I have a collection of ancient video cards. Some are even so old that they're PCI bus.	Aug 05 12:10
DaemonFC	I don't imagine I'll get more than $10 for some of them, but they're just clutter here.	Aug 05 12:10
DaemonFC	Someone with an old computer might appreciate them.	Aug 05 12:10
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DaemonFC	hmmm	Aug 05 13:42
DaemonFC	Here's a used XFX RadeonHD 7950 3 GB on ebay for $80 + $10 shipping.	Aug 05 13:42
DaemonFC	This stuff depreciates fast!	Aug 05 13:43
DaemonFC	That card was well over $200 not very long ago.	Aug 05 13:43
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DaemonFC	I downloaded the wrong setup program, so unless I want to use Acer's crapware infested recovery disc to set up my new installation on my SSD, I have to download another file. Christ.	Aug 05 14:56
DaemonFC	https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10565217_246273218916050_3187415578012410254_n.jpg?oh=c826c19b4ad19ac671d39992a33dc766&oe=543D33CE&__gda__=1413612818_d589dce1655e52689bb206619c0c5878	Aug 05 15:07
DaemonFC	You know it's a high quality SATA cable because it says high quality SATA cable.	Aug 05 15:07
DaemonFC	Cost me a cool 99 cents. B-)	Aug 05 15:07
MinceR	:>	Aug 05 15:07
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DaemonFC	errr	Aug 05 15:09
DaemonFC	https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10559941_246274508915921_8099838344237517983_n.jpg?oh=c4792df5921f3c756b441e63a0072c0e&oe=543E7706&__gda__=1414086252_c04b7c750a37840b6ca7814d1ea299f1	Aug 05 15:09
DaemonFC	There she blows. :P	Aug 05 15:09
DaemonFC	MinceR, I'm planning to swap out the Geforce GTX 560 with something that has a little more punch, but I don't know exactly how far I can go.	Aug 05 15:10
DaemonFC	The power supply seems to have some kind of proprietary hookup to the main board.	Aug 05 15:10
DaemonFC	The good news is that it seems pretty well-designed other than that. 500 watt, 3 12 volt rails, 80 plus gold certification, and two 6 pin adapters.	Aug 05 15:11
DaemonFC	I got the computer at a pretty good price. I figured there'd be something dodgy about it. Stupid proprietary power supplies.	Aug 05 15:11
DaemonFC	I guess it can't be worse than what I've seen Dell and HP do.	Aug 05 15:12
DaemonFC	"Oh, here's a 280 watt power supply with Engrish on it, and no connectors for a graphics card. Don't worry though, you won't need any since there's no port for one either." :D	Aug 05 15:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt Creator 3.2 RC1, a cross-platform IDE	Aug 05 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	(integrated development environment) tailored	Aug 05 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	to the needs of Qt deve...	Aug 05 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/weXqmYqwQ5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy18	Aug 05 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Qt Creator 3.2 RC1, a cross-platform IDE (integrated development environment) tailored to the needs of Qt developers and part of the Qt Project, is now available for download and testing. \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Support for the 64Bit ARM architecture on	Aug 05 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 21 progressing nicely	Aug 05 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ADHmpYR0HB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy1e	Aug 05 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Support for the 64Bit ARM architecture on Fedora 21 progressing nicely \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 15:13
DaemonFC	Also, it's sort of simple. No "Oh my god, what is this thing?" cables all over the place that I'll never ever plug into anything. :)	Aug 05 15:15
DaemonFC	The one that came with my last computer even had a power cable that had been deleted from the ATX specification like 6 years prior	Aug 05 15:16
DaemonFC	Makes you wonder where they got that thing.	Aug 05 15:16
DaemonFC	Someone probably had thousands of them left over and offered to sell them for a few bucks each. Some computer companies will do anything to save a nickel.	Aug 05 15:16
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 05 15:35
DaemonFC	I'm surprised GadgetDon is even discussing multimedia tasks with you, considering his crummy Mac that has less graphics processing power than lower mid-grade 2008 graphics cards that I've given away for free.	Aug 05 15:35
DaemonFC	hehe	Aug 05 15:35
*DaemonFC waits for Cultist Rage.		Aug 05 15:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to think like open source pioneer Michael	Aug 05 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	Tiemann http://t.co/UhIwkukAw2	Aug 05 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy74	Aug 05 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How to think like open source pioneer Michael Tiemann \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Radeon Gallium3D Is Running Increasingly Well	Aug 05 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	Against AMD's Catalyst Driver	Aug 05 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DCZcaZRtbp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy77	Aug 05 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Radeon Gallium3D Is Running Increasingly Well Against AMD's Catalyst Driver \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Replace your proprietary BIOS with Libreboot	Aug 05 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ev3TDsY3KI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy7b	Aug 05 15:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Replace your proprietary BIOS with Libreboot \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 15:48
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abeNd-org	xenapp/xendesktop is one product line i would love to see replaced by a viable/working/supportable opensource option....	Aug 05 16:01
abeNd-org	their netflow product is great, but xendesktop/xenapp... only thing it is good for is grey hair	Aug 05 16:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.2.6 “Still” Released by The	Aug 05 16:23
TweetTuxMachines	Document Foundation http://t.co/rZOTqRKddn	Aug 05 16:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 16:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwycg	Aug 05 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.2.6 “Still” Released by The Document Foundation \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 16:23
*TweetTuxMachines @voidquest44 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Replace your proprietary BIOS with Libreboot http://t.co/ev3TDsY3KI'		Aug 05 16:23
DaemonFC	Newegg has a deal on McAfee Internet Security 2014.	Aug 05 16:33
DaemonFC	Free after rebate + $10 Newegg gift card.	Aug 05 16:33
DaemonFC	I guess I could buy it, throw the software in the trash, and get my money back plus the gift card.	Aug 05 16:33
DaemonFC	Are they really paying people to take their software?	Aug 05 16:34
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abeNd-org	DaemonFC: lots of A/V vendors do that, Kaspersky did that for awhile @ Frys a few yrs back, then sophos	Aug 05 17:10
DaemonFC	I have no idea why they'd do that.	Aug 05 17:10
DaemonFC	Are they just hoping you come back next year and pay full price while the other guy is doing the same thing? :P	Aug 05 17:11
abeNd-org	loss leader, yep	Aug 05 17:20
abeNd-org	marketing 101	Aug 05 17:20
abeNd-org	betting some people wont send in the rebate, which most dont	Aug 05 17:20
abeNd-org	& those that do, most dont track it, or fill it out correctly	Aug 05 17:20
abeNd-org	same reason anything gives you a "free after rebate" or "free + extras after rebate"	Aug 05 17:24
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DaemonFC	Yeah.	Aug 05 17:40
DaemonFC	"You didn't fill out that rebate form 100% correctly! No rebate for you!"	Aug 05 17:40
DaemonFC	B-)	Aug 05 17:40
DaemonFC	I don't know. I've never had a rebate turned down.	Aug 05 17:41
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DaemonFC	A few have taken a REALLY long time, but I've always gotten the check.	Aug 05 17:41
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DaemonFC	I just don't think that the paid antivirus software is much better than Windows Defender.	Aug 05 17:41
DaemonFC	When Microsoft announced Security Essentials, the stock for Symantec and McAfee took a major hit the next day.	Aug 05 17:42
DaemonFC	Most people who buy a new PC don't really know that it comes with antivirus software now, because OEMs disable it when they shove in the trialware.	Aug 05 17:43
DaemonFC	Then people don't register the trialware, and it expires, and doesn't turn Defender back on. :P	Aug 05 17:43
DaemonFC	I actually have a friend that that happened to.	Aug 05 17:44
DaemonFC	Then a virus infected the system and started running amok because McAfee was over there saying "Your trial expired 500 days ago!". :)	Aug 05 17:44
abeNd-org	yea, good thing i dont have to deal with personal computers	Aug 05 17:46
abeNd-org	i just manage the companies from the A/V admin console	Aug 05 17:47
abeNd-org	& don't let licenses slide :P	Aug 05 17:47
DaemonFC	Well, I have to say that Acer makes pretty nice cases.	Aug 05 17:52
DaemonFC	I've seen ones that were WAAAAAY harder to work in.	Aug 05 17:52
DaemonFC	This one even has one of those drive bays that you unscrew and it slides out so you can get the drives in and out easily.	Aug 05 17:52
DaemonFC	Without taking a bunch of other stuff out.	Aug 05 17:53
abeNd-org	Acer, you mean eMachines/Gateway? :)	Aug 05 17:53
abeNd-org	yea, the Dell Optiplex cases are usually nice & screwless, easy to access	Aug 05 17:54
abeNd-org	even their microcases are usually laid out pretty well	Aug 05 17:55
DaemonFC	eMachines actually gave me a really good deal three PCs ago.	Aug 05 17:58
DaemonFC	I don't think they're branding desktops as eMachines anymore.	Aug 05 17:58
DaemonFC	They sell some mismatched components though.	Aug 05 17:59
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, A Core i7 4770 mixed in with a rebadged RadeonHD 7770 Ghz Edition calling itself a "8760 OEM". LOL	Aug 05 17:59
DaemonFC	That's not a terrible card, but what the hell is it doing in a machine with a Core i7? :P	Aug 05 18:00
DaemonFC	The Core i7 should probably at least be paired with a 7870.	Aug 05 18:00
DaemonFC	I guess I did OK though. I bought it knowing about that. The first thing I did was swap it out for the Geforce GTX 560 SC I already owned. :)	Aug 05 18:01
abeNd-org	an actual card or just onboard video?	Aug 05 18:01
DaemonFC	actual card	Aug 05 18:01
DaemonFC	The 7770 can run some decent games at good speed on high graphics mode	Aug 05 18:01
abeNd-org	must have been cheapest thing they had to throw in that day then, guessing this is a consumer grade machine & not business class?	Aug 05 18:02
DaemonFC	The GTX 560 is a step up though. It's closer to a RadeonHD 6870 or so.	Aug 05 18:02
abeNd-org	i was looking at the evga 750Ti superclocked, inexpensive & supposed to be a really good card for the price	Aug 05 18:02
DaemonFC	oh, I saw one on Newegg this morning.	Aug 05 18:02
DaemonFC	email deals with a rebate attached.	Aug 05 18:02
DaemonFC	It's not as powerful as my GTX 560, but it doesn't use a lot of power.	Aug 05 18:03
DaemonFC	For a card that you don't have to plug into the power supply, the 750 Ti is pretty good.	Aug 05 18:03
DaemonFC	The only downside to my GTX 560 vs the 7770 ("8760") is that the firmware on the Geforce doesn't work without BIOS interfaces.	Aug 05 18:04
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DaemonFC	So you have to use the CSM on the uEFI firmware to bring up the Geforce. :P	Aug 05 18:04
DaemonFC	And you have to do it before you swap the card or you'll just get a blank screen. :D	Aug 05 18:05
DaemonFC	and it's not secure boot compatible, of course	Aug 05 18:05
DaemonFC	heh	Aug 05 18:05
DaemonFC	So if you turn secure boot off and tell your uEFI to pretend it's a BIOS to the card, then the card will come up	Aug 05 18:06
abeNd-org1	i know they have the 1 & 2 gig version, was hoping to get 2 gig, if i can find any reason to have the extra memory...considering i dont actually game, or have the time.	Aug 05 18:06
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DaemonFC	EVGA never provided a firmware update, but you know how these companies are. "We haven't sold those in two years, so fuck you.".	Aug 05 18:06
DaemonFC	Why would you get a 2 GB?	Aug 05 18:06
DaemonFC	That's another thing I don't understand. The "8760 OEM" is a little different than the 7770 Ghz Edition. The 7770 had 1 GB, and the "8760" has 2.	Aug 05 18:07
DaemonFC	It doesn't really make any difference.	Aug 05 18:07
abeNd-org1	since i wouldnt be buying another video card for yrs, getting the most memory i could, supposedly some of the newer games can take advantage of crazy amounts of video memory	Aug 05 18:07
DaemonFC	If you ever go to run a game that needs more than a GB of vram, the card would fall over and die under that load anyway.	Aug 05 18:08
DaemonFC	So, save your money unless you just plan on running three desktops or want to use crazy high resolutions or something.	Aug 05 18:08
DaemonFC	1920 x 1080 is no problem on a 1 GB card.	Aug 05 18:08
abeNd-org1	thats what they said back when people ran the OAK256 ;)	Aug 05 18:08
DaemonFC	My GTX 560 has 1 GB. I still put it in instead of the one with 2.	Aug 05 18:09
abeNd-org1	at home i run 3 monitors, but i dont think any of the games i would play (diablo3/starcraft, not WoW if i ever had the time, or the games :)) take advantage of multimonitor	Aug 05 18:10
DaemonFC	I just don't believe it matters. There's no use trying to futureproof this stuff. After three or four years, it's done.	Aug 05 18:10
abeNd-org1	i remember back in the days some racing games & quake based ones did, Alice was awesome on triple monitor	Aug 05 18:10
abeNd-org1	yea, the 1gig version is about $30 less, i could use that to buy a game, now if only i had time	Aug 05 18:11
DaemonFC	Well, the 750 Ti would run a video game like a slideshow anyway if you tried cranking everything up.	Aug 05 18:11
DaemonFC	So, what good is 2 GB of RAM?	Aug 05 18:11
DaemonFC	yeah, the extra $30 isn't worth it. Not on that card.	Aug 05 18:12
DaemonFC	Lots of RAM makes no sense on low/mid grade cards.	Aug 05 18:12
abeNd-org1	I can possibly justify ~100 USD on a card, so the 1GB superclocked Ti750 evga would just about fit the bill, no way i can justify anything more expensive	Aug 05 18:13
DaemonFC	On top of the line ones it might, if you're running really demanding stuff on maximum settings at high res.	Aug 05 18:13
DaemonFC	Get a used card off of ebay.	Aug 05 18:13
abeNd-org1	it would still be far & above the onboard intel 4000 i have now	Aug 05 18:13
DaemonFC	The 7870s only seem to run about $70-80 by the time the auctions are done.	Aug 05 18:13
DaemonFC	They do need two 6 pins though.	Aug 05 18:14
abeNd-org1	how good is the 7870 compared to the 750Ti? i havent paid much attention to ATI	Aug 05 18:14
DaemonFC	But they would pulverize that 750 Ti.	Aug 05 18:14
DaemonFC	Like, uhh, about four times faster.	Aug 05 18:14
DaemonFC	Give or take. :)	Aug 05 18:14
abeNd-org1	the other reason i was going for the 750Ti is power requirements, wife wont approve of buying a replacement power supply	Aug 05 18:14
abeNd-org1	those 750 Ti work with 300watt PSU	Aug 05 18:14
DaemonFC	Maybe not four, but close.	Aug 05 18:14
abeNd-org1	& this was a free gateway 4860DX, so wife doesnt want me really spending $ on it	Aug 05 18:15
DaemonFC	hmmm	Aug 05 18:15
DaemonFC	I've got a 4670 and a 5670 that I'm not really doing too much with.	Aug 05 18:15
abeNd-org1	core i5, 12gb ram 1tb wdc black, so not a bad box for free, even though it moos	Aug 05 18:15
DaemonFC	The 5670 isn't a fantastic card, but it's still better than integrated video, and it doesn't need to plug into the power supply.	Aug 05 18:16
DaemonFC	Supports DirectX 11 and OpenGL 4.4.	Aug 05 18:16
abeNd-org1	yea, that & cost were the reasons i was looking at the 750Ti	Aug 05 18:16
DaemonFC	I think the 750 Ti only uses like 55 watts at maximum load.	Aug 05 18:17
DaemonFC	So, you're well under the limit of the port itself, which is 75 watts.	Aug 05 18:17
abeNd-org1	yep, i dont have the budget approval for a 900W PSU just for a $300+ video card :)	Aug 05 18:18
DaemonFC	Well, you could probably get away with a 750 Ti on that psu. I wouldn't try to run anything more.	Aug 05 18:18
abeNd-org1	hrm, newegg only has the 2GB variety	Aug 05 18:18
DaemonFC	The newer Core series processors and DDR3 RAM use less power than ever, so you could probably get close to the 75 watt port limit without risking your psu.	Aug 05 18:18
abeNd-org1	yea, the amazon reviews have people running 300watt PSU with that card & actually use it for gaming, they are happy enough	Aug 05 18:18
DaemonFC	My Core i7 4770 only uses 68 watts at full load.	Aug 05 18:19
abeNd-org1	i dont plan on playing crysis or anything like that	Aug 05 18:19
DaemonFC	The Phenom II X4 that it replaced was three times slower and used 125 watts max.	Aug 05 18:19
DaemonFC	:)	Aug 05 18:19
abeNd-org1	$125 vs $154 for 1GB vs 2GB	Aug 05 18:20
DaemonFC	well, if you can get the 2 GB version for not much more after factoring in the rebate, then go for it.	Aug 05 18:20
DaemonFC	I'd say don't pay more than $10 more, or you're being robbed. It's just not likely to be useful.	Aug 05 18:20
DaemonFC	Really, video games are pretty poorly optimized, for the most part.	Aug 05 18:21
abeNd-org1	yea, i doubt diablo3/starcraft2/older games could use more than 1GB ram	Aug 05 18:21
DaemonFC	Some developers, like Bethesda, just rush out broken unoptimized shit.	Aug 05 18:21
DaemonFC	And then they make their money and pretty much abandon it.	Aug 05 18:22
DaemonFC	and their broken game lingers on in Steam forever :)	Aug 05 18:22
abeNd-org1	coughEAcough	Aug 05 18:22
abeNd-org1	to tell the truth, all I want to play is Goat Simulator :D	Aug 05 18:22
abeNd-org1	j/k, I grew up on a goat farm as a kid, no need for a video game	Aug 05 18:22
*MinceR recommends an open source gray hair dye to abeNd-org1		Aug 05 18:27
abeNd-org1	hey, I started going grey in my early 20s	Aug 05 18:28
MinceR	:>	Aug 05 18:31
abeNd-org1	mostly because I actually cared about things	Aug 05 18:35
abeNd-org1	stupid me	Aug 05 18:35
DaemonFC	Yeah. People do whatever they want. They love to make their problem your problem. Shit happens.	Aug 05 18:43
MinceR	Hell is other people.	Aug 05 18:44
DaemonFC	MinceR, People get together and decide how to run your life.	Aug 05 18:53
MinceR	indeed	Aug 05 18:53
DaemonFC	Sometimes they call it communism, and sometimes it's capitalism. Sometimes it's a "democracy" and sometimes it isn't.	Aug 05 18:53
DaemonFC	The only question about it is how bad they're going to fuck you.	Aug 05 18:53
DaemonFC	How much of your stuff they're going to take and give to their friends.	Aug 05 18:54
abeNd-org1	it doesnt matter if it is called capitalism or communism, it is called middle management	Aug 05 18:56
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abeNd-org1	http://www.dilbert.com/2014-08-03/ illustrates it perfectly	Aug 05 19:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Radeon Graphics Get Many Changes For Linux	Aug 05 21:13
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DaemonFC	I got my SSD in	Aug 05 22:00
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DaemonFC	http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=301225665336	Aug 05 22:20
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DaemonFC	That's a pretty good deal.	Aug 05 22:20
DaemonFC	I'm adding some EVGA Geforce GTX 660 SCs to my watch list.	Aug 05 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU C Library Exploits Closed in All Ubuntu	Aug 05 22:24
DaemonFC	Those look like a worthy upgrade for my card.	Aug 05 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	Supported OSes http://t.co/8TDqaCeB8c	Aug 05 22:24
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DaemonFC	http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-12G-P4-3999-KR-GeForce-GTX-TITAN-Z-12GB-768-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-3-0-SLI-S-/301263094013?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4624ae00fd	Aug 05 22:33
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DaemonFC	whoa	Aug 05 22:33
MinceR	gn	Aug 05 23:13
DaemonFC	Now I'm looking at the R9 270X	Aug 06 00:10
DaemonFC	That could be a good one.	Aug 06 00:10
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DaemonFC	Yeah, it looks like the R9 270X is a solid choice.	Aug 06 01:11
DaemonFC	I'm glad I didn't peel off that "Powered by Radeon" sticker. :)	Aug 06 01:11
DaemonFC	I chatted Newegg about their 10% off promo not working on a graphics card I wanted, and they said that it was because of free video games, but that they'd credit my card $19 and I can keep the free games!	Aug 06 01:13
msb	Comcast just sent me an email saying they've increased my network speed. So I reset the modem, router, and stopped and restarted the network in etc/init.d	Aug 06 01:37
msb	I tried Comcast's speed test and it said it would start in 6,000 seconds, and began counting down.	Aug 06 01:38
msb	Clever! But another speed test website did show an increase to 2.47 MB/sec, which is definitely faster.	Aug 06 01:39
msb	Of course I'm not getting any faster from the server I'm really interested in, but what the hey, it's prime time here.	Aug 06 01:43
DaemonFC	I ended up buying the R9 270 instead of the 270X.	Aug 06 02:03
DaemonFC	The 270X is only 3% faster, but the 270 was on sale for about 20% less today with free shipping.	Aug 06 02:04
DaemonFC	And it only uses 150 watts instead of 180.	Aug 06 02:04
DaemonFC	So the R9 270 is going to be almost as fast as the Geforce GTX 660 Ti for $100 less.	Aug 06 02:05
DaemonFC	Score!	Aug 06 02:05
DaemonFC	msb, I changed the order. The Sapphire Vapor X R9 270X was in their Daily Deal for $10 more.	Aug 06 02:34
DaemonFC	http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?pid=2036	Aug 06 02:38
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DaemonFC	There's what I just bought.	Aug 06 02:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samba Patched, LibreOffice 4.2.6, and Best	Aug 06 07:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is open source the key to innovation?	Aug 06 07:23
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MinceR	geekings	Aug 06 08:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Connected Car, Part 1: The Future Starts	Aug 06 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	Now - Will Linux Drive It?	Aug 06 09:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker comes to openSUSE http://t.co/JmXbnXuvHx	Aug 06 09:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Everyone's your partner in open source	Aug 06 09:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Zimbra CMO on being a great guardian of open	Aug 06 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	source's three C's http://t.co/gLgMcMT2iQ	Aug 06 16:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Input Drivers Get Renewed For Linux 3.17	Aug 06 16:01
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DaemonFC	I gope I can fit that card I bought into my case...	Aug 06 16:14
DaemonFC	I guess if I had to, I could take the drive bay out. All that's in the side bay is my ssd. I could move that and put it on the bottom of the case. :P	Aug 06 16:15
DaemonFC	uggh	Aug 06 16:16
DaemonFC	Is it just me or do graphics cards keep getting longer?	Aug 06 16:16
abeNd-org	hah, you never saw a VLB video card	Aug 06 16:21
DaemonFC	Oh, I'm sure that with some work, I could get it in. Giggidy!	Aug 06 16:22
DaemonFC	I don't really want to take my drive bay out, but I guess that since my hard drive is using the front bay anyway, it is an option.	Aug 06 16:23
abeNd-org	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_Local_Bus	Aug 06 16:23
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DaemonFC	The only part where Sapphire seems to have cut you a break with the Vapor-X R9 270X is that the six pin power cables plug into the side. So it's a question of whether I have 2" left behind my current card to work with without taking the drive bay out.	Aug 06 16:24
DaemonFC	That card is bigger than it looked. Tiger Direct doesn't give you the specs, so I figured it would be about the same as what I've got.	Aug 06 16:24
abeNd-org	still not as big as a VLB card http://www.interfacebus.com/VESA_Local_Bus_Pinout.html	Aug 06 16:25
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DaemonFC	My Geforce is 4.38" wide and the Vapor-X R9 270X is 4.03, so I know it will fit that way.	Aug 06 16:26
DaemonFC	My case has a thing that props up against the graphics card. I was hoping I wouldn't have to remove that too. :P	Aug 06 16:27
DaemonFC	I was thinking about editing my order again to go back to the R9 270, but that card is still 9" and the power cables plus into the back.	Aug 06 16:28
DaemonFC	I'm about 98% certain that I can get the Vapor X card in there without taking the drive bay out, but it's going to be....very close.	Aug 06 16:29
DaemonFC	This case leaves me with no margin of error.	Aug 06 16:29
DaemonFC	It's going to be pretty ugly.	Aug 06 16:30
DaemonFC	I wish my case gave me about another half inch or so.	Aug 06 16:30
DaemonFC	Well, I guess that taking the drive bay out wouldn't be such a bad thing.	Aug 06 16:33
DaemonFC	It's just more work and not what I want to be doing. lol	Aug 06 16:33
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, VLB?	Aug 06 16:33
abeNd-org	VLB Vesa Local Bus - refer to the 2 links	Aug 06 16:34
abeNd-org	it was the bus of choice with my first computer back in 94	Aug 06 16:34
DaemonFC	http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?pid=2036	Aug 06 16:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.17 Adds Support For Intel "Braswell" HD	Aug 06 16:35
TweetTuxMachines	Audio http://t.co/JTSsMG2uiw	Aug 06 16:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Flock Day One: Gijs Hillenius Keynote	Aug 06 16:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RasPi magazine launches today – get your free	Aug 06 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	downloads here http://t.co/xElYjohf8s	Aug 06 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 16:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines India opens up to operating system Ubuntu	Aug 06 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2GEBlQzzVT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 16:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/mdIGSoZldD	Aug 06 16:36
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DaemonFC	abeNd-org, The XFX Double D was half an inch shorter, but cost $70 more. I'd rather do some work with the hard drive cage than pay another $70 for what's basically the same card.	Aug 06 16:48
DaemonFC	I've had XFX cards before, and they do a good job, but they're a little steep. Still, it does kind of piss me off that Sapphire couldn't find a way to get their card down by half a smegging inch. :P	Aug 06 16:49
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, The people who made the cases for the VLB cards would have probably anticipated you using one though. :P	Aug 06 16:50
abeNd-org	yes, in fact there were guides/mounts on the edge side so it wouldn't bow	Aug 06 16:52
DaemonFC	I'd run into the same space problem with the Dual-X configuration too because it's still nearly 10" and the six pin ports are on the back. :P	Aug 06 16:54
DaemonFC	So going with the dual X wouldn't really help.	Aug 06 16:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/dz4ZqaLsrp	Aug 06 17:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/pWGqTpzXTy	Aug 06 17:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Finding Wayland at Flock 2014	Aug 06 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/youm9CYnxr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 17:10
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MinceR	http://hugelolcdn.com/i460/301754.jpg	Aug 06 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Perf-Per-Watt: Catalyst vs. Radeon Gallium3D	Aug 06 17:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam and HandBrake repository update	Aug 06 17:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GTK+ 3 Plugins in WebKitGTK+ and Evince Browser	Aug 06 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	Plugin http://t.co/a7zxboU3Hc	Aug 06 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 17:45
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MinceR	http://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10268428_844504358894344_4554826229546892078_n.jpg	Aug 06 17:45
DaemonFC	Well, I asked them to cancel the order.	Aug 06 18:04
DaemonFC	I'll look for another card.	Aug 06 18:04
DaemonFC	I busted a tape measurer out and decided that this is probably a bad idea. :P	Aug 06 18:04
DaemonFC	It might still come in the mail anyway. I should have checked instead of eyeballing it. :P	Aug 06 18:06
DaemonFC	If it fits, it's going to have less than a fifth of an inch to spare without hitting that drive cage.	Aug 06 18:06
DaemonFC	So if I get it, then I'm probably going to have to take the cage out. I don't really want to. :P	Aug 06 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Optimizing the front door (your website) for	Aug 06 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	your open source project http://t.co/on87lfu8cm	Aug 06 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony gives up on PlayStation Mobile for Android	Aug 06 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BnadRg0INL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Roll Your Own YouTube/Flickr with MediaGoblin	Aug 06 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3LfwFzJLCV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines More Details On GCC & LLVM Collaboration	Aug 06 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rTwmUDnSHt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:41
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DaemonFC	I'm probably going to email Sapphire after I get this card situation sorted out and ask them why their Vapor-X cooler is so long when the competition's is half an inch shorter.	Aug 06 18:41
DaemonFC	A half an inch doesn't sound like much, but I'd imagine it's the difference between the card fitting and an angry pissed off customer in a lot of cases. I think that card makers should really work to make sure that they don't go over the 10" mark. 9.9" should probably be considered a limit, because it will usually fit at 9.9 with an acceptable amount of room left over.	Aug 06 18:41
DaemonFC	Then again, I've also ran into these really long cards that have the 6 pin ports at the back, so if that's what they're doing, then 9.5" should really be considered a limit, because you have to get the damned thing plugged in. If you put it on the sides, you're giving your customer about another 0.4" of clearance at the back.	Aug 06 18:41
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, Yeah. I'm sure I can fit the card. I'm most likely going to have to take the drive cage out. Damn them.	Aug 06 20:02
DaemonFC	All this over less than a fifth of an inch.	Aug 06 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Digia spins Qt unit as a separate company	Aug 06 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/29bO6bKuRt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 20:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gesture-controlled home automation hub runs	Aug 06 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/r5vSTU9ZnP	Aug 06 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hx88w	Aug 06 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Gesture-controlled home automation hub runs Linux \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 20:04
MinceR	220219 < TweetTuxMachines> @tuxmachines Digia spins Qt unit as a separate company	Aug 06 20:06
MinceR	they could call it TrollTech	Aug 06 20:06
abeNd-org	DaemonFC: a hammer?	Aug 06 20:07
DaemonFC	uhhh, uhhhh	Aug 06 20:07
DaemonFC	Not really sure I want to do that. :)	Aug 06 20:07
DaemonFC	Tiger Direct just changed my order status to BACKORDERED.	Aug 06 20:07
DaemonFC	Those bastards.	Aug 06 20:07
abeNd-org	DaemonFC: awww come on, do some custom case modding!	Aug 06 20:08
DaemonFC	I'm just going to take the drive cage out if I have to.	Aug 06 20:08
DaemonFC	I got on the phone with their support people and got it taken care of, I think.	Aug 06 20:26
DaemonFC	Good god.	Aug 06 20:26
DaemonFC	I might not do any more orders through them!	Aug 06 20:26
abeNd-org	i havent worked with tiger direct online in years	Aug 06 20:27
abeNd-org	there is a physical store near one of my customers (renamed compusa) that I go to sometimes	Aug 06 20:28
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roy_	MinceR: haha!	Aug 06 21:00
roy_	Nokia -> magnified Trolltech	Aug 06 21:00
roy_	Then downsized as Digia and back to Oslo	Aug 06 21:01
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DaemonFC	Don't order from Tiger Direct.	Aug 06 21:31
DaemonFC	Holy fucking jumping shitballs. If I knew what their customer support was like, I would have paid the extra $20 at newegg.	Aug 06 21:32
DaemonFC	Actually more. :P	Aug 06 21:32
DaemonFC	Newegg had the graphics card I wanted for $189.99, but they charge 7% state sales tax.	Aug 06 21:33
DaemonFC	So it would have worked out to $203.29.	Aug 06 21:33
DaemonFC	I got the same card on Tiger Direct for $169.99 with no tax, and it comes with a $10 mail in rebate form to send to Sapphire.	Aug 06 21:33
DaemonFC	So, six weeks later, I'll get $10 of that back.	Aug 06 21:34
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DaemonFC	MinceR, I hate sales tax.	Aug 06 21:50
MinceR	is that VAT?	Aug 06 21:50
DaemonFC	I hate taxes period. The state says it knows how to spend my money better than I do, and when they raise my taxes, they offset the increased revenue immediately, by giving the rich another tax break.	Aug 06 21:50
DaemonFC	Not the same, really.	Aug 06 21:50
DaemonFC	VAT doesn't happen here, at least not that I'm aware of.	Aug 06 21:51
DaemonFC	With VAT, each step of the manufacturing process is taxed, so the price of the tax is built into the finished goods.	Aug 06 21:51
DaemonFC	With a sales tax, the finished good is taxed based on the price paid for the good.	Aug 06 21:51
DaemonFC	The VAT is harder to escape because in the US, each state is responsible for collecting their own sales tax, but if you buy from a company that has no physical presence in your state, then they won't collect the tax, and your state can't make them do it.	Aug 06 21:52
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DaemonFC	So you can escape the sales tax by buying from a merchant that has no physical presence in your state.	Aug 06 21:53
DaemonFC	Amazon and Newegg have warehouses in Indiana. Tiger Direct contracts their warehousing out to another company.	Aug 06 21:53
DaemonFC	So although there's a warehouse in Indiana, Tiger Direct doesn't legally have a presence here.	Aug 06 21:53
DaemonFC	The end result is that they're immediately 7% cheaper than Newegg or Amazon on an item that is the same price at both places.	Aug 06 21:54
DaemonFC	So, if you're looking to save money, you just do business with someone that isn't bound to collect the tax. You're supposed to report it on an Indiana tax form and pay it yourself, but nobody does.	Aug 06 21:54
DaemonFC	The state usually never goes after anyone for it because it would have to take them to court and prove they didn't pay $10 in tax. :P	Aug 06 21:56
DaemonFC	They don't have the budget to go through millions of online orders and sue people to get a few dollars out of each one.	Aug 06 21:56
DaemonFC	After I get my Vapor X card hooked up and running, I'm going to throw that "RadeonHD 8760 OEM" (Radeon HD 7770 Ghz Edition with extra RAM) on ebay and see if I can get some money for it.	Aug 06 21:58
DaemonFC	It's easily a $80-90 card, new.	Aug 06 21:58
DaemonFC	If I can get $60 out of it, I'll be happy.	Aug 06 21:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA 343 Linux Driver Improves EGL Support,	Aug 06 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes Many Bugs http://t.co/9xbyILEIy1	Aug 06 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 22:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google under threat as forked Android devices	Aug 06 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	rise to 20% of smartphone shipments	Aug 06 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Bz2mAUHEWb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 22:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cartagena hosts Latin American Ubuntu	Aug 06 22:19
TweetTuxMachines	convention http://t.co/EedSU3OcPX	Aug 06 22:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 22:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android head-up display responds to voice and	Aug 07 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	gestures http://t.co/jvwc6kaUw1	Aug 07 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 00:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Shopping Lens (Scopes) Declared Legal in	Aug 07 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	UK and Most Likely in European Union	Aug 07 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/83YYdASNFh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 00:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Story Behind Acquisition of ‘MySQL’ by Sun	Aug 07 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	Microsystem and the Rise of ‘MariaDB’	Aug 07 00:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6I4adnNKKg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 00:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Story Behind Acquisition of ‘MySQL’ by Sun Microsystem and the Rise of ‘MariaDB’ \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 00:05
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 07 00:53
DaemonFC	Part of the reason for the high price of the Mac is that when you idiot-proof something, then you always end up running into a bigger idiot.	Aug 07 00:53
DaemonFC	They wouldn't need to hire so many "geniuses" if their customers didn't need to go to the "genius bar" to figure out how to plug in a printer cable.	Aug 07 00:53
DaemonFC	I heard that Apple was changing the policy so that customers could get up to 15 minutes per issue instead of 15 minutes no matter how many issues they have.	Aug 07 00:53
DaemonFC	That sounds like they'll have their hands full. Anyone who would pay for a Mac has issues.	Aug 07 00:53
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DaemonFC	Does anyone know if you can hook up a case fan to a sata power cable?	Aug 07 03:15
DaemonFC	I guess I could hook the case fan's 3 pin to the included molex adapter and then hook the moles adapter up to a moles to sata adapter and plug the sata power cable into the sata end.	Aug 07 03:18
DaemonFC	good lord	Aug 07 03:18
DaemonFC	Now I need to find an adapter that hooks up to a SATA power cable and has a male molex on the other end.	Aug 07 03:46
DaemonFC	msb__, Little help here, bro? :)	Aug 07 03:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Distro Hopping, Ubuntu's #1, and Open Source	Aug 07 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	Death http://t.co/2SazFrcUxF	Aug 07 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxd4q	Aug 07 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Distro Hopping, Ubuntu's #1, and Open Source Death \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Computer Dating, Linux Style	Aug 07 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5xgx5Vms0b (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 08:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Computer Dating, Linux Style \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines China Issues Ban On iPad, MacBook Pro, And	Aug 07 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	Other Apple Products For Government Use	Aug 07 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1uAmS2FxDh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxd4s	Aug 07 08:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bad Microsoft Android patents may lie behind	Aug 07 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	Samsung lawsuit http://t.co/slsGSfQjZ6	Aug 07 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxek4	Aug 07 10:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Bad Microsoft Android patents may lie behind Samsung lawsuit \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qubes 2 RC2 Is Probably the Most Secure	Aug 07 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	Operating System in Existence – Gallery	Aug 07 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kwBM1Oy2t0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxek5	Aug 07 10:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Android tablets (August 2014 edition)	Aug 07 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yzoPtCIt83 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 10:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxek7	Aug 07 10:48
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DaemonFC	Filling out a rebate form for my new graphics card.	Aug 07 10:58
DaemonFC	It's only for ten bucks, but ten bucks is ten bucks. :P	Aug 07 10:58
MinceR	geekings	Aug 07 10:59
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msb__	DaemonFC: Sorry I couldn't answer before. How can I help you?	Aug 07 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle Solaris 11.2 Officially Released	Aug 07 13:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pvjvDaSdkG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 13:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma Addons - Where we are in Plasma5	Aug 07 13:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Update to KDE Frameworks 5	Aug 07 14:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2014.07 Arrives with Linux Kernel	Aug 07 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	3.15.4 and KDE 4.12.3 – Gallery	Aug 07 14:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.11 Pre2 Lands with Xfce, Openbox,	Aug 07 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	KDE, and NET Flavors – Gallery	Aug 07 14:12
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4528196	Aug 07 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: According to some reports, #cia has removed (censored) text about torture methods (inc. "improvised") because they're illegal, cruel		Aug 07 15:25
schestowitz	"I give them credit for writing it down in the first place."	Aug 07 15:25
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4528189	Aug 07 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nixon believed #CIA involved in #Kennedy Assassination http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/friendswood/opinion/pease-nixon-believed-cia-involved-in-kennedy-assassination/article_8da10f92-7cc3-5d45-8262-899ee2191d57.html		Aug 07 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.yourhoustonnews.com \| PEASE: Nixon believed CIA involved in Kennedy Assassination - Your Houston News: Opinion [ http://ur1.ca/hxg6y ]		Aug 07 15:26
schestowitz	"They got rid of him, in any case. Watergate wasn't a triumph of investigative journalism - the Washington Post was given the story on a plate - all the sources were White House sources."	Aug 07 15:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497384207371747329	Aug 07 15:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Bush-Era Officials Deny 'We Tortured Some Folks' http://t.co/73EFGFFITj good photo...		Aug 07 15:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Facebook Is Hiring To Make Linux Networking	Aug 07 18:11
TweetTuxMachines	Better Than FreeBSD http://t.co/j503XDsV3w	Aug 07 18:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 18:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxikt	Aug 07 18:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.17 To Drop Old POWER Processor Support	Aug 07 18:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2fq9hUWF9M (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 18:11
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4528304	Aug 07 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How #CIA #torture techniques like #waterboarding and isolation actually work http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/how-cia-torture-techniques-like-waterboarding-and-isolation-actually-work/story-fnh81jut-1227015198991 a bit #nsfw (but does not cover the cruelest ones)		Aug 07 20:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to take over natural resources (Latin America, M-E, and so on)? Create instability, allege intervention is needed. http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/06/shank-usaid-idINL2N0QC2EU20140806		Aug 07 20:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehurst: In 2014, Open	Aug 07 22:03
TweetTuxMachines	Source Innovation Is Going Mainstream	Aug 07 22:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/q5xH5mx072 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 22:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehurst: In 2014, Open Source Innovation Is Going Mainstream \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 22:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Back Up Your PC with Clonezilla Live 2.2.3-30	Aug 07 22:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8TeyitOsHq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 22:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi 2 update management infrastructure to	Aug 07 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	land after Fedora 21 release	Aug 07 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mXxaBAj007 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 22:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Bodhi 2 update management infrastructure to land after Fedora 21 release \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines For Google, the Open and Less Open Channels for	Aug 07 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	Android are All Good http://t.co/d1CaDeBOtk	Aug 07 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 22:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| For Google, the Open and Less Open Channels for Android are All Good \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Scale like Twitter with Apache Mesos	Aug 07 22:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KRijyHUOId (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 22:04
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DaemonFC	https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_update/windows-81-update-1-failing-to-install-with-errors/c3071122-e903-4775-b659-e98784bc786c?page=24	Aug 08 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-answers.microsoft.com \| Windows 8.1 Update 1 Failing to Install with errors 80070020, 80073712 - Microsoft Community [ http://ur1.ca/hxlhl ]		Aug 08 03:16
DaemonFC	LOL	Aug 08 03:16
DaemonFC	This computer bought the farm. EIEIO!	Aug 08 03:16
msb__	DaemonFC: Sorry I couldn't answer before. How can I help you?	Aug 08 03:18
DaemonFC	I was just wondering the best way one can go about powering a case fan with a SATA power cable.	Aug 08 03:27
DaemonFC	If anyone knows.	Aug 08 03:27
DaemonFC	Every Windows user needs a Chromebook. It helps them look up problems on Google when Windows doesn't work.	Aug 08 03:33
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DaemonFC	This new video card is going to be one big hairy bear to get installed.	Aug 08 05:27
DaemonFC	I am NOT looking forward to this	Aug 08 05:27
DaemonFC	It's a nice card, but I don't see why it had to be 10.3" long. That's just crazy.	Aug 08 05:28
DaemonFC	Other companies get theirs in under 10". This is kind of sloppy if you ask me.	Aug 08 05:28
DaemonFC	Looks like Walmart doesn't carry cable ties. I might just use some of those twist ties from some loaves of bread.	Aug 08 05:29
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msb__	DaemonFC: If you can't find an adapter or cable in Frys or Amazon, get 2 cables, each with the connector you want on one end, cut them in half, and solder the good halves together.	Aug 08 06:33
msb__	DaemonFC: check the voltages on the molex end before you plug it into the fan.	Aug 08 06:33
msb__	DaemonFC: You can find the pinouts in wikipedia.	Aug 08 06:34
msb__	DaemonFC: or just get a molex splitter and plug it into another fan cable	Aug 08 06:36
DaemonFC	I might just not put one on.	Aug 08 06:52
DaemonFC	If the card ventilates out the back as well as my EVGA GTX 560 SC does, then like 80-90% of that heat should just go right out the back of the card and out into the room anyway.	Aug 08 06:53
DaemonFC	You jsut don't want to fuck around and end up having all that heat building up inside the case.	Aug 08 06:53
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roy	https://twitter.com/CasparBowden/status/497676683957518336	Aug 08 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CasparBowden: after Snowden only foolish governments would use proprietary operating systems MT @schestowitz http://t.co/a5JrdUCNRA #EUdatap		Aug 08 09:46
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roy	https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497668154165043200	Aug 08 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @aral @arepty @schestowitz is there a chart showing with numbers the rise of antisemitism in Europe since 1945? I keep hearing it's raising.		Aug 08 09:52
roy	https://twitter.com/arepty/status/497668474043650048	Aug 08 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@arepty: @blackjack75 @aral @schestowitz The article cites some numbers, but it’s not very extensive and doesn’t go back that far.		Aug 08 09:52
roy	A lot of it might actually be tied to immigration to Europe from north Africa and M-E	Aug 08 09:52
roy	https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497670057489858560	Aug 08 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @arepty @aral @schestowitz that's my point. Either it goes back down between articles or by now 50% of the pop are nazis.		Aug 08 09:53
roy	https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497670201618735104 https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497670867531616256	Aug 08 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @arepty @aral @schestowitz my personal perception is that true antisemitism is actually lower than it was 20 years ago.		Aug 08 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @arepty @aral @schestowitz now the criticism about Israeli army crimes is on the rise indeed. Maybe because they bomb civilians.		Aug 08 09:53
roy	https://twitter.com/chucker/status/497676160462254080	Aug 08 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chucker: @blackjack75 @aral @arepty @schestowitz a few stats: http://t.co/x0fSY5gsfN		Aug 08 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> wikiislam.net \| Muslim Statistics (Antisemitism) - WikiIslam		Aug 08 09:54
roy	https://twitter.com/JK5global/status/497678757017440256	Aug 08 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JK5global: @CasparBowden @schestowitz Francis Maude (Cabnt Office) making strenuous efforts to rid Whitehall of spyOS (MS) but insider oiks on the take		Aug 08 09:55
roy	Any links on that? I wrote numerous posts about British police and Army (and Bank of England) using OS with US back doors	Aug 08 09:55
roy	https://twitter.com/JK5global/status/497684774690238464	Aug 08 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JK5global: @schestowitz In early 90s MoD rolled out Unix across all services incl GCHQ. Motivation was security (from whom? don't know). Follow for DM		Aug 08 10:08
roy	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497685176559087616	Aug 08 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @JK5global CESG recommends #gnu #linux but a lot of the #uk government still uses #microsoft #windows (on desktops in particular)		Aug 08 10:08
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DaemonFC	It's nice of Sprint to hand me a bill crammed with bogus charges, and then when I call to deal with the problem, it's an automated response system that says "We all went home for the night, but you can use this system to pay your bill!".	Aug 08 10:38
roy	http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article46802.html	Aug 08 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketoracle.co.uk \| Why UK House Prices Will Continue Rising - 'It's Immigration Stupid' :: The Market Oracle :: Financial Markets Analysis & Forecasting Free Website [ http://ur1.ca/hxnfl ]		Aug 08 10:47
DaemonFC	roy, Meanwhile, meanwhile, the US is being overrun by illegal immigrant children who are coming here to exploit a law that says that each one of them is entitled to a deportation hearing.	Aug 08 10:53
DaemonFC	They know that the system is so backed up that the judge usually lets them go and tells them to come back for the hearing in five years.	Aug 08 10:54
DaemonFC	Over half of them never show up for the hearing, and most of the others claim asylum for some reason or another.	Aug 08 10:55
DaemonFC	Nobody wants to do anything about it because it's not politically correct.	Aug 08 10:55
DaemonFC	I've seen some people that are not in the United States criticizing us for not doing more for them. Well, you want to do more for them? Here. Have some. Really. You know?	Aug 08 10:56
DaemonFC	They don't offer to help, they just criticize us and then walk off.	Aug 08 10:56
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DaemonFC	Housing prices. Only people like me have to worry about housing prices and loans and all that. Between the government and the catholic church, you can get any house you want in Fort Wayne, as long as you're not an American.	Aug 08 10:59
DaemonFC	The city went through and spent millions of dollars renovating a bunch of houses, and then they started renting them out to people with low incomes with a thing that said they own the home after so many years. So, they move in and enjoy a nice low house payment while they're tearing the shit out of the house again.	Aug 08 11:01
DaemonFC	roy, But, housing prices went up here, at least, because people expected housing prices to go up, and the loan money was cheap for a while to ensnare people.	Aug 08 11:04
DaemonFC	So, you had a house that was costing very little on interest, or you could get a low interest mortgage on your existing house and blow all the money on your lifestyle inflation, and then the ARM trap was sprung, and everyone went underwater and started losing their houses.	Aug 08 11:05
DaemonFC	Everything that happened in 2008 was at least 10 years in planning.	Aug 08 11:06
DaemonFC	I do believe that there's some people running everything, and they plan stuff decades in advance, and they know exactly what will happen and when.	Aug 08 11:07
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DaemonFC	I got the issue worked out with Sprint. :P They said it was a glitch in their system and they reversed that part of the bill. I'm glad I keep an eagle eye on my bills. :)	Aug 08 11:25
DaemonFC	They want people on autopay so that they can take whatever they want and you won't notice it.	Aug 08 11:26
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533468	Aug 08 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why won't Obama fire the liar? http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/local/item/71321-why-wont-obama-fire-the-liar spooky photo		Aug 08 17:13
schestowitz	"siempre seguirán con la misma basura porque esas 2 coaliciones que tienen son los que mayor poder tienen y la gente confía en ellos... mientras sigan en el poder y sigan los diputados también en el poder nada se puede hacer... tienen que poner diputados que no sean de esas 2 coaliciones más poderosas y luego el presidente para realizar un cambio importante en la política externa e interna de ese país..."	Aug 08 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsworks.org \| Why won't Obama fire the liar? — NewsWorks		Aug 08 17:13
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4532300	Aug 08 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Yahoo will rely on a version of PGP or Pretty Good Privacy encryption" http://www.hngn.com/articles/38518/20140808/yahoo-offer-one-click-encryption-emails-2015.htm or just use #enigmail		Aug 08 17:13
schestowitz	"And how secure is it from Yahoo reading it all and passing it all along to the government? I'm guessing they're not using in-browser encryption..."	Aug 08 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hngn.com \| Yahoo To Offer One-Click Encryption For Emails By 2015 : News : Headlines & Global News		Aug 08 17:13
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4531923	Aug 08 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://s.likes-media.com/img/411de70e6882091cdd872b5f6639a151) #Image #Picture #Gif - Schrödinger's #cat is not happy		Aug 08 17:14
schestowitz	"Probably because Schrödinger keeps locking it in a box and trying to kill it..."	Aug 08 17:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4529615	Aug 08 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Oracle Solaris 11.2 Officially Released http://news.softpedia.com/news/Oracle-Solaris-11-2-Officially-Released-453897.shtml		Aug 08 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| Oracle Solaris 11.2 Officially Released [ http://ur1.ca/hxp2k ]		Aug 08 17:17
schestowitz	"Solaris is still a thing? Wow."	Aug 08 17:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533542	Aug 08 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "father was brutally tortured and two of her uncles were executed...settlement with British government" for silence http://ivn.us/2014/08/08/cia-radical-bureaucracy-requires-radical-reform/		Aug 08 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> ivn.us \| The CIA: A Radical Bureaucracy Requires Radical Reform \| IVN.us [ http://ur1.ca/hxp2o ]		Aug 08 17:17
schestowitz	"Radical"	Aug 08 17:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533876	Aug 08 17:19
schestowitz	"I wonder if the US senate knows that it's owned by the CIA."	Aug 08 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #hogwash from pro-military site #DefenseOne http://www.defenseone.com/politics/2014/08/cia-cant-hack-senate-computers-because-they-own-them-experts-say/90881/?oref=d-channelriver cracking Windows to take screenshots worse than "hacking"		Aug 08 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.defenseone.com \| The CIA Can’t Hack Senate Computers Because They Own Them, Experts Say - Defense One [ http://ur1.ca/hxp3a ]		Aug 08 17:19
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533748	Aug 08 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Going to war in some distant (invaded) country makes it OK to torture foreigners http://blogs.seattletimes.com/northwestvoices/2014/08/07/torture-dont-criticize-unless-youve-served-on-the-front-lines/		Aug 08 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blogs.seattletimes.com \| Torture: Don't criticize unless you've served on the front lines \| Northwest Voices \| Seattle Times [ http://ur1.ca/hxp8v ]		Aug 08 17:45
schestowitz	"I think the US is free to not leave US territory if does not like international laws."	Aug 08 17:45
MinceR	apparently others don't like international laws either	Aug 08 17:54
DaemonFC	I see that people are still running antivirus programs that they got from the pirate bay and cracked.	Aug 08 18:00
DaemonFC	doh!	Aug 08 18:00
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 18:00
DaemonFC	I think the funniest one I ever saw was where the pirates replaced the Avast Pro logo with a skull and crossbones in the about section and called it "Avast Pro: Pirate Edition".	Aug 08 18:02
MinceR	:)	Aug 08 18:06
MinceR	yarr!	Aug 08 18:07
DaemonFC	MinceR, Avast didn't used to protect their software very well, so all you needed was a serial that looked valid. So a lot of those serialz sites were passing them around.	Aug 08 18:08
DaemonFC	But at the same time, those sites were popping up IE windows and installing malware.	Aug 08 18:08
MinceR	a version of UniVBE had all three serials near the end of the executable in cleartext :>	Aug 08 18:08
MinceR	also, it doesn't matter how hard they'd try anyway, DRM doesn't work.	Aug 08 18:09
DaemonFC	true	Aug 08 18:09
MinceR	so they probably did the wise thing and didn't waste effort on it	Aug 08 18:09
DaemonFC	I used to turn Opera into the full version that way.	Aug 08 18:10
DaemonFC	It was 30 day demoware, but then they changed it to adware until you paid.	Aug 08 18:10
DaemonFC	Now it's just a broken copy of Chrome.	Aug 08 18:10
MinceR	i didn't mind the ads that much back then	Aug 08 18:10
MinceR	especially since i could turn it fullscreen or something and then then ad banner wasn't even there, iirc	Aug 08 18:11
MinceR	and shortly afterwards it became freeware	Aug 08 18:11
DaemonFC	It was using a lot of my screen at the time.	Aug 08 18:11
MinceR	:)	Aug 08 18:11
DaemonFC	Low-res CRT monitor. Ewww.	Aug 08 18:11
MinceR	s/en a/e a/	Aug 08 18:12
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UniVBE	Aug 08 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| UniVBE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Aug 08 18:13
DaemonFC	"Many video cards have sub-par implementations of the VESA standards, or no support at all."	Aug 08 18:13
DaemonFC	Just enough to boot the computer in many cases.	Aug 08 18:13
DaemonFC	They don't really care what DOS applications do.	Aug 08 18:14
DaemonFC	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424175,00.asp	Aug 08 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcmag.com \| AVG AntiVirus FREE 2014 Review & Rating \| PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/hxpeq ]		Aug 08 18:16
DaemonFC	"Some users may object to numerous upsell attempts."	Aug 08 18:16
DaemonFC	Well, yeah. It's aggravating, but it's what happens when you go with the free version. Its purpose is to nag you to death until you fork over money.	Aug 08 18:17
DaemonFC	"just let avg update to 2014 today and now my graphics driver is crashing. getting 116 stop error on nvlddmkm.sys my laptop has bluescreened 3x in the past hour. i tried uninstalling avg but the uninstaller keeps crashing."	Aug 08 18:20
DaemonFC	Well, that sounds like fun.	Aug 08 18:20
MinceR	lol	Aug 08 18:20
MinceR	that sounds like a typical windows system	Aug 08 18:20
DaemonFC	Well, Vista at least.	Aug 08 18:21
DaemonFC	That's the only one I had where it would crash constantly.	Aug 08 18:21
DaemonFC	Other than Windows 98.	Aug 08 18:21
MinceR	if it doesn't crash constantly, it drops the ball constantly in a different way :>	Aug 08 18:23
DaemonFC	8.1 hasn't been so bad	Aug 08 18:24
MinceR	8.1 hasn't been inflicted on me yet.	Aug 08 18:24
MinceR	i hope it will stay that way.	Aug 08 18:24
DaemonFC	Windows Update is somewhat lulzy.	Aug 08 18:24
DaemonFC	It'll occasionally fail to install an update and not tell you.	Aug 08 18:25
DaemonFC	There's a procedure for getting it to install the "spring update" when that one fails.	Aug 08 18:25
DaemonFC	"I have been using AVG for years, and it is about to go out the window. It keeps installing it own toolbar and repeatedly switches my default search to AVG safe search even though I changed the settings numerous times. My system performance has taken a hit, and it has new 'helpful' pop up feature to tell me things I didn't ask.	Aug 08 18:26
DaemonFC	AVG has crossed the line from Malware cleaner into actual Malware."	Aug 08 18:26
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 18:26
DaemonFC	I used to use AVG. They were actually quite good. No nags or disabled feature buttons that made it obvious you were using the free version.	Aug 08 18:27
DaemonFC	I guess they turned into a bunch of greedy cocks with awful software.	Aug 08 18:27
MinceR	they adapted to the rest of the AV industry :>	Aug 08 18:28
DaemonFC	MinceR, Apparently, Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Defender took a dive too.	Aug 08 18:30
DaemonFC	Remember when that was new and people were talking about how fast it was and how it detected and stopped almost all malware.	Aug 08 18:30
DaemonFC	Now it's failing to detect a bunch of malware that's a month old. :)	Aug 08 18:30
MinceR	remember when it decided that claria wasn't malware anymore when m$ considered acquiring them	Aug 08 18:31
MinceR	it's about as trustworthy as anything else from m$.	Aug 08 18:31
DaemonFC	I remember the Gator spyware.	Aug 08 18:32
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DaemonFC	I actually installed some "freeware" from their site about 16 years ago, not knowing what it was.	Aug 08 18:32
MinceR	gator, claria, same company :>	Aug 08 18:33
DaemonFC	yeah	Aug 08 18:33
DaemonFC	just like the Philip Morris cigarette company is Altria now.	Aug 08 18:34
DaemonFC	MinceR, I can't believe that PC World is recommending Chinese anti-virus software.	Aug 08 18:37
*MinceR shrugs		Aug 08 18:37
DaemonFC	That has to be a new low.	Aug 08 18:37
MinceR	maybe they're being paid by them	Aug 08 18:37
DaemonFC	possibly	Aug 08 18:37
MinceR	is it lower than IDG shilling m$?	Aug 08 18:37
DaemonFC	I figure that maybe some of the anti-Windows Defender/MSE stories might be coming from the paid antivirus companies.	Aug 08 18:38
DaemonFC	They're all desperate to get your money, so they could just be paying off these "labs" to make MSE/WD fail the test.	Aug 08 18:39
DaemonFC	I thought about picking up a copy of McAfee Internet Security, MinceR.	Aug 08 18:40
DaemonFC	Just because you got it free after rebate, plus Newegg tossed in a $10 gift card.	Aug 08 18:40
DaemonFC	Then I saw people complaining that they sent in the rebate form and never got their money back.	Aug 08 18:40
DaemonFC	Not just one. A bunch of people.	Aug 08 18:41
MinceR	it's horribly crap	Aug 08 18:43
DaemonFC	So, they haven't improved since Intel bought them?	Aug 08 18:43
DaemonFC	http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/07/technology/security/intel-mcafee/	Aug 08 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-money.cnn.com \| Intel renames its tainted McAfee brand - Jan. 7, 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/hxpj2 ]		Aug 08 18:44
DaemonFC	LOL	Aug 08 18:44
MinceR	i'm not sure if the version that's foisted on me is newer than that	Aug 08 18:44
MinceR	at least the new brand can be shortened to InSecurity	Aug 08 18:44
DaemonFC	I'm just not having any of it. Their antivirus software is worse than actual malware.	Aug 08 18:45
DaemonFC	There was so much bloatware on this computer before I formatted it and started over from a clean copy of the installer, that it was just fucking horrible.	Aug 08 18:51
DaemonFC	Acer really loads the machines up with a triple dose of crapware.	Aug 08 18:51
DaemonFC	It was worse than the worst Dell crapware job I've ever seen, and there was McAfee there too.	Aug 08 18:51
DaemonFC	They had all this Intel "management" crap popping up asking me to pay for theft protection.	Aug 08 18:52
DaemonFC	Then there was this animated coffee cup that kept popping up on my desktop for some reason, and popping up dialog balloons asking me to register it.	Aug 08 18:52
DaemonFC	All kind of shit.	Aug 08 18:52
MinceR	lol	Aug 08 18:54
DaemonFC	MinceR, I removed the Realtek audio driver bundle to get rid of their crapplet volume mixer, and it garbled my audio.	Aug 08 18:58
MinceR	ugh	Aug 08 18:58
DaemonFC	It's working fine now from the clean install I did from a retail ISO.	Aug 08 18:58
DaemonFC	They had some kind of equalizer software called Creative something-or-other that loaded a splash screen every time you boot Windows.	Aug 08 18:59
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DaemonFC	It was almost funny how badly they made a Core i7 system with 12 GB of RAM run.	Aug 08 19:00
MinceR	that's what the windows school of IT gives you...	Aug 08 19:00
MinceR	all the apps have to have a different skin, have to start at boot and have to put themselves everywhere and conflict with all the other apps	Aug 08 19:01
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MinceR	and no proper package management with signing	Aug 08 19:01
DaemonFC	Dell said that without crapware, the computers wouldn't be so affordable.	Aug 08 19:02
DaemonFC	Like $300 worth of components that retails for $600 affordable, like they have now....	Aug 08 19:03
MinceR	also, with proper support, dHell computers wouldn't be so affordable, i'm guessing	Aug 08 19:03
DaemonFC	They make their highest profit margins on their cheapest computers.	Aug 08 19:04
DaemonFC	Once you're down to Dell's lowest end stuff, you're talking about processors that RETAIL for $40 and motherboards that RETAIL for $50-60.	Aug 08 19:05
DaemonFC	On their systems with dedicated graphics cards, they buy cheap AMD Radeon leftovers in packs of 100.	Aug 08 19:05
DaemonFC	Like the thing Acer crammed into this computer.	Aug 08 19:05
DaemonFC	That card is going on ebay as soon as I get my R9 270X working.	Aug 08 19:06
DaemonFC	I probably won't get anything for it. 7770s are not worth a lot of money, and there are people there selling the same OEM cards in bulk.	Aug 08 19:06
DaemonFC	I wonder how they got 1,000 Dell-branded RadeonHD 7770s that were supposed to be installed into Dell computers, anyway.....	Aug 08 19:07
DaemonFC	Of course, with that card, we should be reading about how they broke into a Dell warehouse and put them all back.	Aug 08 19:08
DaemonFC	I'm just hoping I can make the new card fit. I thought 10.3" was massive (the Vapor X that I have coming), but then I noticed that they make one called a "Toxic" and that's over a foot long. Christ....	Aug 08 19:09
DaemonFC	It's not a card that needs a foot long cooler on it.	Aug 08 19:09
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 19:09
DaemonFC	Do they make a case that you can put that in?	Aug 08 19:10
MinceR	there are huge cases	Aug 08 19:10
MinceR	meant for servers and such	Aug 08 19:10
DaemonFC	Oh, I'm sure they do, but damn.	Aug 08 19:10
DaemonFC	12.5"?	Aug 08 19:10
MinceR	dunno	Aug 08 19:10
MinceR	that's the screen size of my tablet pc	Aug 08 19:10
DaemonFC	My computer would be all like "There's no way you're putting that in me!" and I'd be like "I guess I can see your point.".	Aug 08 19:10
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 19:10
MinceR	that's what she said.	Aug 08 19:11
DaemonFC	mmhm	Aug 08 19:11
DaemonFC	seriously. A 12.5" long graphics card.	Aug 08 19:11
DaemonFC	The Dual-X is only 9.8", and that's really all it needs to be. The card isn't a turbo powered $500 card or anything.	Aug 08 19:12
DaemonFC	The only reason I got the Vapor-X is because it went on sale much cheaper than the Dual-X and the bigger cooler is constructed better which allows for overclocking.	Aug 08 19:12
DaemonFC	In fact, it comes overclocked, but there's not much you're going to goose out of it.	Aug 08 19:13
DaemonFC	The overclocked model with the nicer cooler only benchmarks about 3% better than the base model.	Aug 08 19:13
DaemonFC	MinceR, That's actually what made the decision in favor of the card I have now. It went on one of those super sales and it was already overclocked, so it was up there with the 560 Ti on performance, but much much cheaper.	Aug 08 19:14
MinceR	:)	Aug 08 19:15
DaemonFC	Nvidia sets the pricing on the Ti models so much higher, that it's cheaper for OEMs to overclock them, stick a better cooler on them, and then tell you that their overclocked model is the same performance as a Ti for much less.	Aug 08 19:15
DaemonFC	I mean, overclock the base model.	Aug 08 19:16
DaemonFC	It's true. I haven't had any stability problems out of this card.	Aug 08 19:16
DaemonFC	Nvidia doesn't get to dictate what OEMs tell the firmware performance profiles to default to as far as clock speeds go..	Aug 08 19:18
DaemonFC	They just set the pricing on the chipset and then the vendors do whatever they want with them.	Aug 08 19:18
DaemonFC	AMD does much the same thing. So, there's a huge difference between the same Radeon model from different vendors, and it can be maddening trying to figure it out.	Aug 08 19:19
DaemonFC	They're all off a bit from AMD's official specification. :P	Aug 08 19:20
DaemonFC	I wish that AMD and Nvidia would just direct market their own cards and stop the madness.	Aug 08 19:20
DaemonFC	http://gizmodo.com/5392862/acers-bloatware-adds-2%252B-minutes-to-boot-time-hp-dell-and-sony-not-much-better	Aug 08 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com \| Acer's Bloatware Adds 2+ Minutes to Boot Time, HP, Dell and Sony Not Much Better [ http://ur1.ca/hxpqo ]		Aug 08 19:28
DaemonFC	"Acer: 2:01 longer boot time, 952MB larger memory footprint, 2.4GB less HDD space	Aug 08 19:31
DaemonFC	"	Aug 08 19:31
DaemonFC	sounds about right	Aug 08 19:31
DaemonFC	MinceR, That was one of the get a mac ads that made me laugh.	Aug 08 19:32
DaemonFC	The bloatware one.	Aug 08 19:32
DaemonFC	I see that Democracy 3 is still popular. That game sucked. They always killed me for turning it into a socialist paradise.	Aug 08 19:34
DaemonFC	Ungrateful bastards!	Aug 08 19:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Links 8/8/2014: Qt a Separate Company Again, KDE Frameworks 5.1 Released http://techrights.org/2014/08/08/kde-frameworks-5-1-released/ #techrights		Aug 08 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Turin to Be First Italian City to Adopt Ubuntu, Unshackle from the “Tyranny of Proprietary Software” http://news.softpedia.com/news/Turin-to-Be-First-Italian-City-to-Adopt-Ubuntu-Unshackle-from-the-quot-Tyranny-of-Proprietary-Software-quot-454152.shtml #italy #gnu #linux		Aug 08 20:47
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sebsebseb	schestowitz: ping	Aug 08 21:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Loaded headline from FOSS-hostile #idg provocateur: let's pretend #apple is on the rise, a false supposition http://t.co/qomeb3Jtku		Aug 08 21:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Security expert calls home routers a clear and present danger http://t.co/cVSt19N5Xe many are found to have #backdoors		Aug 08 21:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Microsoft's Xbox One Is Failing http://t.co/8cSFX7BVtE #microsoft #xbox		Aug 08 21:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497845388167356416	Aug 08 21:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Big four carriers accused of violating the only remaining #netneutrality rule http://t.co/WB9EP1nior the 1% gets its way, again. #internet		Aug 08 21:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Wikimedia votes to decide who owns #monkey selfie http://t.co/rBZaRjX3r5 #copyright		Aug 08 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Wikimedia votes to decide who owns monkey selfie - Telegraph		Aug 08 21:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Shrugs http://t.co/XbC69kujXb		Aug 08 21:35
sebsebseb	schestowitz: well already replied to her now, but what are you meant to say when someone woman online asks you what your life style and fashion is?	Aug 08 21:36
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atheenah	i found silverlight for linux	Aug 08 21:47
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atheenah	also flash 14 in a deb	Aug 08 21:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Which Linux Desktop Environment Should You Use?	Aug 09 05:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Peppermint OS Reviewed, GNU Radio in Space, and	Aug 09 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	KNOPPIX 7.4.0 http://t.co/ivix18t2vX	Aug 09 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxv3t	Aug 09 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Peppermint OS Reviewed, GNU Radio in Space, and KNOPPIX 7.4.0 \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Security Threats on the Rise	Aug 09 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ePTh8y4Mnk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxv3u	Aug 09 12:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle Embargoes FLOSS (Java)…	Aug 09 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UcgRkZZUJo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxv3w	Aug 09 12:00
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MinceR	geekings	Aug 09 13:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Flock 2014 Day 3: Building an application	Aug 09 15:29
TweetTuxMachines	installer from the ground up	Aug 09 15:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iesqa3RDGJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 15:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxvz0	Aug 09 15:29
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MinceR	http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2014/07-JUL/MAD-Magazine-Putin-Sharknado2_53ce7e3731de60.84763420.jpg	Aug 09 16:39
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4536566	Aug 09 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Securely' sending data to #microsoft to "dodge spies" makes as much sense as paying the Mafia "protection money" to demolish the Mafia		Aug 09 17:00
schestowitz	""Nice database youse got dere ... be a shame if it wuz to be compromised!""	Aug 09 17:00
schestowitz	MinceR: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4531690	Aug 09 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Russian Ministry of Health to Replace #Microsoft and #Oracle Products with #Linux and #PostgreSQL http://news.softpedia.com/news/Russian-Ministry-of-Health-to-Replace-Microsoft-and-Oracle-Product-with-Linux-and-PostgreSQL-453909.shtml		Aug 09 17:02
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schestowitz	"@url=http://cronostech.no-ip.org/u/cronos]Cronos[/url], oh, that's right. I am a commie four times then :-P."	Aug 09 17:02
schestowitz	"@Cronos, oh, that's right. I am a commie four times then :-P."	Aug 09 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ http://cronostech.no-ip.org/u/cronos]Cronos[/url )		Aug 09 17:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice is coming to Android	Aug 09 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pecEyZkRLq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxwpd	Aug 09 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice is coming to Android \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why is Skype forcing a software upgrade on all	Aug 09 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	of us? http://t.co/ei93BGChVg	Aug 09 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxwpe	Aug 09 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why is Skype forcing a software upgrade on all of us? \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 17:20
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4536603	Aug 09 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Tried To Delete Court Transcript In Lawsuit Over Deleting Evidence http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/08/nsa-tried-to-delete-court-transcript-in-lawsuit-over-deleting-evidence/ #nsa #coverup		Aug 09 17:23
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schestowitz	"Sometimes this all just goes beyond ironic and into being outright farce."	Aug 09 17:23
schestowitz	"Sometimes?'	Aug 09 17:24
schestowitz	"Touché"	Aug 09 17:24
schestowitz	"It's just like everything the state does now. I'm really never surprised. The only good news is coming from judges who are acting out of a sense of preservation because they know if the executive branch gets too strong they are out of a job and probably forced into exile, at the least."	Aug 09 17:24
schestowitz	"Well, I wouldn't say I was surprised. It's more that the extreme irony of this particular fact being pointed out, is pretty over the top. We know they're up to much worse than this, but most of it just isn't quite so ironic."	Aug 09 17:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD A10-7800 & A6-7400K APUs Run Great On Linux	Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/r3CKFD37Dq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxxf7	Aug 09 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| AMD A10-7800 & A6-7400K APUs Run Great On Linux \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Starts Petition on	Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jYqG5Q2Syq (Change.org) Addressed	Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	to http://t.co/iWGDTgClYC (Change.org) Against	Aug 09 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Change.org \| NO TITLE		Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	Impersonating http://t.co/PBLH3QZtEU	Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxxf8	Aug 09 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linus Torvalds Starts Petition on Change.org Addressed to Change.org Against Impersonating \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Over a Month On - Conclusion to the GNOME Shell	Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	Challenge http://t.co/zzsJPLpRJU	Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxxf9	Aug 09 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Over a Month On - Conclusion to the GNOME Shell Challenge \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 19:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Two Intel Graphics Features Get Pulled From	Aug 09 22:11
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.17 http://t.co/WWUG4QoTFw	Aug 09 22:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 22:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy97	Aug 09 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Two Intel Graphics Features Get Pulled From Linux 3.17 \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Ubuntu Touch Internet Browser Has Been	Aug 09 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	Redesigned http://t.co/0kxwCcAG5P	Aug 09 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9b	Aug 09 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Ubuntu Touch Internet Browser Has Been Redesigned \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.1.0 and Plasma 5.0.1 on the	Aug 09 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	horizon http://t.co/GrW3tnLWRF	Aug 09 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9d	Aug 09 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Frameworks 5.1.0 and Plasma 5.0.1 on the horizon \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 22:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/wUusHqAmkf	Aug 09 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9g	Aug 09 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/jyUUZ4kuL7	Aug 09 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 22:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9h	Aug 09 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Randa Meetings Interview Four: Myriam	Aug 03 01:55
TweetTuxMachines	Schweingruber http://t.co/aJENyKOVWx	Aug 03 01:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 01:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwai6	Aug 03 01:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Randa Meetings Interview Four: Myriam Schweingruber \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 01:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Let's Use Linux and Android SDK for Better	Aug 03 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	Android App Development http://t.co/yKqRg1Gb0t	Aug 03 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwaqs	Aug 03 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Let's Use Linux and Android SDK for Better Android App Development \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Lightweight Graphical Email Clients	Aug 03 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HpUNjAOSTB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwaqu	Aug 03 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Best Lightweight Graphical Email Clients \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 03:13
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DaemonFC	http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-acer-116-chromebook-with-14ghz-dual-core-processor?&utm_campaign=200011&utm_medium=afl&utm_source=GPN&z=skip	Aug 03 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.groupon.com \| Acer 11.6" Chromebook with 1.4GHz Dual-Core Processor Deal of the Day \| Groupon [ http://ur1.ca/hwawy ]		Aug 03 03:55
DaemonFC	Groupon has Acer C720-D Chromebooks for $129.99 right now.	Aug 03 03:55
DaemonFC	That's a good deal. Love mine.	Aug 03 03:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Image #157 Comes With Mir And	Aug 03 04:22
TweetTuxMachines	Unity 8 Improvements, Among Others	Aug 03 04:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/M1plQc9wdQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 04:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwb0l	Aug 03 04:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch Image #157 Comes With Mir And Unity 8 Improvements, Among Others \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 04:22
*TweetTuxMachines @XCodeCloud favourited 'Let's Use Linux and Android SDK for Better...'		Aug 03 04:22
schestowitz	http://www.newsfactor.com/blog_article.php?aid=5643709	Aug 03 04:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsfactor.com \| NewsFactor Network \| Best Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/hwb31 ]		Aug 03 04:44
schestowitz	Been anti-Snowden for ages	Aug 03 04:44
schestowitz	the writers all the tim	Aug 03 04:44
schestowitz	time	Aug 03 04:44
schestowitz	also anti-Wikileaks	Aug 03 04:44
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Sosumi	and it is true	Aug 03 11:24
Sosumi	portugal's most insolvent bank is to be bailed out by less insolvent banks	Aug 03 11:24
Sosumi	what can go possibly go wrong	Aug 03 11:24
*Sosumi shakes head		Aug 03 11:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines When Linux Was Perfect Enough	Aug 03 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OTsry6NpD3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwd9t	Aug 03 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| When Linux Was Perfect Enough \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A year without Windows and a new love of Linux	Aug 03 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xaDLW2YXBp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwd9v	Aug 03 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A year without Windows and a new love of Linux \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The GPLv3 GPU Is Now Available	Aug 03 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/42nwMzARzA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwd9w	Aug 03 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The GPLv3 GPU Is Now Available \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 15:19
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MinceR	how are you gentlemen !!	Aug 03 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.23 released http://t.co/bifqqulpbE	Aug 03 15:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 15:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwdfj	Aug 03 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Wine 1.7.23 released \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/5vV90nvSzx (www.x.org) Server 1.16,	Aug 03 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	Rootless X Now Available For Arch Linux	Aug 03 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org \| xorg		Aug 03 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fGUQdNU2Sp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwdfs	Aug 03 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mesa 10.2.5 http://t.co/9OjMXcDq34	Aug 03 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwdfv	Aug 03 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mesa 10.2.5 \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 15:54
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prometeo	Hi Roy I am woritting to you because of your article: The European Patent Office is Breaking the Law Regarding Software Patents, German Parliament Finally Complains	Aug 03 16:01
prometeo	In addition to that there are some other issues in the EPO working that worries to me.	Aug 03 16:02
prometeo	First. I wonder if EPO is an Organization that applies Equal Opportutinties Jobs or make unethical discriminations among candidates. I am talking because of my own experience	Aug 03 16:03
prometeo	Sencond if they have t be so rude and unpolite. They don't answer jobs applications. Just in the case you want a visit with Human RElationships department. the guard and the main entrance tells you that he doesn't know thwere is the HHRR.	Aug 03 16:05
prometeo	Third. It is very sad for an European citicenz to see how EU institutions are surrendering to USA companies interest	Aug 03 16:06
prometeo	I say so mainly because the new CPC patent classification, has elicted the A61P relavite to therapeutic drug activity. I can not think what is the reason	Aug 03 16:07
prometeo	If you wnat to write to me you can reach me in manuel.cornejo.m[at]gmail.com	Aug 03 16:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Features Of Linux 3.16	Aug 03 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UGyB1v3cpP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwdjg	Aug 03 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Best Features Of Linux 3.16 \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Valve Updates SteamOS and Fixes the	Aug 03 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	Custom-Built Compositor http://t.co/OEbqRl7Ocf	Aug 03 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwdjh	Aug 03 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Valve Updates SteamOS and Fixes the Custom-Built Compositor \| Tux Machines		Aug 03 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Moto G Problems From Android 4.4 KitKat Update:	Aug 03 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	Battery Drain, Airplane Mode Problems	Aug 03 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rDkAwjoivl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 03 16:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/zgHRnz04K2	Aug 03 19:19
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MinceR	gn	Aug 03 20:27
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 03 20:34
DaemonFC	The iPhone only comes with 1 gig of RAM too.	Aug 03 20:34
DaemonFC	All in all, the iPhone is to smartphones as Internet Explorer 6 was to web browsers.	Aug 03 20:34
DaemonFC	The reason millions of people started bailing is because Android pulled ahead years ago, and now Apple is going around trying to copy as many Android features as they can, but some of the iPhone's most crippling and aggravating limitations are going to survive at least into iPhone 6 and iOS 8. It just won't be as painful. But for that price, do you really want a painful and limited phone? Should people be paying $600-850 on a phone and then	Aug 03 20:34
DaemonFC	making compromises with things like screen resolutions? At that price, they should expect quad HD now. The LG G3 really set a new bar for what a phone should be.	Aug 03 20:34
DaemonFC	2 seconds ago	Aug 03 21:31
DaemonFC	.	Aug 03 21:31
DaemonFC	I like tormenting people who are hawking Apple garbage on Craigslist sometimes by making fun of them for trying to sell their old unsupported garbage for like $500.	Aug 03 21:31
DaemonFC	I always offer to haul it away for free. You all should probably see some of the hatemail that I get.	Aug 03 21:31
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MinceR	:)	Aug 04 01:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/XecV8kYwxi	Aug 04 03:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 3.16, Get	Aug 04 05:09
TweetTuxMachines	While It's Hot http://t.co/5vN15cdXXs	Aug 04 05:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What owning your personal cloud means for the	Aug 04 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	open source movement http://t.co/4Kbl4lIBXy	Aug 04 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 04 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwh0e	Aug 04 05:10
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MinceR	geekings	Aug 04 05:31
DaemonFC	Wow, these new CPUs are amazing.	Aug 04 07:12
DaemonFC	All that power at my disposal and it only uses 68 watts.	Aug 04 07:12
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MinceR	http://www.ebay.de/itm/Patch-KEEP-CALM-and-WAIT-FOR-RUSSIANS-on-velcro-/331256249493?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d20693c95	Aug 04 15:11
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schestowitz_bed2	> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-rettinger/microsofts-four-biggest-problems_b_5641212.html	Aug 04 15:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com \| Microsoft's 4 Biggest Problems \| Jonathan Rettinger [ http://ur1.ca/hwnjh ]		Aug 04 15:14
schestowitz_bed2	>	Aug 04 15:14
schestowitz_bed2	> spam	Aug 04 15:14
schestowitz_bed2	I didn't read beyond the sub-headlines. It sounds like some blog from a supposedly knowledge-able Microsoft lover. He promises to help Microsoft fix its operations...	Aug 04 15:14
schestowitz_bed2	MinceR: wow	Aug 04 15:45
schestowitz_bed2	for a moment there I thought it was some real book	Aug 04 15:45
MinceR	:>	Aug 04 15:46
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 05 00:37
DaemonFC	Trying to transfer everything over to Apple's system is like watching the last chapter of The Shawshank Redemption in reverse.	Aug 05 00:37
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4509207	Aug 05 03:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Best Lightweight Graphical Email Clients http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20140802104742756/LightweightEmailClients.html #email		Aug 05 03:34
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schestowitz__	"To be fair, it is running about 6 email addresses, a couple of which have gigabytes of email..."	Aug 05 03:34
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4513523	Aug 05 03:35
schestowitz__	"This seems misleading, like a shell game. JP Morgan branches are mentioned more than once. Who owns the banks? If the banks and institutions listed were really independent would the news organization be as uniform and out of whack as they are? Power and media ownership seems far more concentrated as this article indicates."	Aug 05 03:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The owners of #usatoday (Gannett) is no exception: http://www.niemanlab.org/2011/03/who-owns-newspaper-companies-the-banks-funds-and-investors-and-their-big-slices-of-the-industry/ watch "Berkshire Hathaway" at top		Aug 05 03:35
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DaemonFC	http://www.ebay.com/itm/Msi-7870-Ghz-Edition/291205855751?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D8812462572084243932%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D291205855751	Aug 05 05:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ebay.com \| MSI 7870 GHz Edition \| eBay [ http://ur1.ca/hwrzz ]		Aug 05 05:21
DaemonFC	He says it's listed as broken but only shows artifacts in one game.	Aug 05 05:22
DaemonFC	I might risk a few bucks on it.	Aug 05 05:22
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/496471474178641920 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/496470778930819074 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/496469938144825344	Aug 05 06:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Web app dev kit supports Android and Ubuntu http://t.co/CJRDApizlo #ubuntu #linux #android		Aug 05 06:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Ubuntu Spotted Flying Over the Antarctic During a #NASA Mission http://t.co/m40LzWsCyH		Aug 05 06:48
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DaemonFC	I'm bidding on a RadeonHD 7870.	Aug 05 07:36
DaemonFC	If I can get it at the right price, it should make a nice upgrade from my Geforce 560 GTX	Aug 05 07:37
DaemonFC	The 560 GTX is struggling on RAGE. Of course, that game was widely ridiculed for being horribly ported to the PC and not optimized properly.	Aug 05 07:38
DaemonFC	I'm sick of all these companies dropping broken games on the PC that crash and hang and stutter on decent hardware. :P	Aug 05 07:38
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DaemonFC	The 7870 could be a good card if I snag it at the right price.	Aug 05 08:07
DaemonFC	I'm probably going to put a batch of my old video cards on ebay when I get something newer.	Aug 05 08:08
DaemonFC	I have a collection of ancient video cards. Some are even so old that they're PCI bus.	Aug 05 08:08
DaemonFC	I don't imagine I'll get more than $10 for some of them, but they're just clutter here.	Aug 05 08:08
DaemonFC	Someone with an old computer might appreciate them.	Aug 05 08:08
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DaemonFC	hmmm	Aug 05 09:40
DaemonFC	Here's a used XFX RadeonHD 7950 3 GB on ebay for $80 + $10 shipping.	Aug 05 09:40
DaemonFC	This stuff depreciates fast!	Aug 05 09:40
DaemonFC	That card was well over $200 not very long ago.	Aug 05 09:41
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DaemonFC	I downloaded the wrong setup program, so unless I want to use Acer's crapware infested recovery disc to set up my new installation on my SSD, I have to download another file. Christ.	Aug 05 10:54
DaemonFC	https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10565217_246273218916050_3187415578012410254_n.jpg?oh=c826c19b4ad19ac671d39992a33dc766&oe=543D33CE&__gda__=1413612818_d589dce1655e52689bb206619c0c5878	Aug 05 11:05
DaemonFC	You know it's a high quality SATA cable because it says high quality SATA cable.	Aug 05 11:05
DaemonFC	Cost me a cool 99 cents. B-)	Aug 05 11:05
MinceR	:>	Aug 05 11:05
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DaemonFC	https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10559941_246274508915921_8099838344237517983_n.jpg	Aug 05 11:06
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DaemonFC	errr	Aug 05 11:06
DaemonFC	https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10559941_246274508915921_8099838344237517983_n.jpg?oh=c4792df5921f3c756b441e63a0072c0e&oe=543E7706&__gda__=1414086252_c04b7c750a37840b6ca7814d1ea299f1	Aug 05 11:06
DaemonFC	There she blows. :P	Aug 05 11:07
DaemonFC	MinceR, I'm planning to swap out the Geforce GTX 560 with something that has a little more punch, but I don't know exactly how far I can go.	Aug 05 11:08
DaemonFC	The power supply seems to have some kind of proprietary hookup to the main board.	Aug 05 11:08
DaemonFC	The good news is that it seems pretty well-designed other than that. 500 watt, 3 12 volt rails, 80 plus gold certification, and two 6 pin adapters.	Aug 05 11:09
DaemonFC	I got the computer at a pretty good price. I figured there'd be something dodgy about it. Stupid proprietary power supplies.	Aug 05 11:09
DaemonFC	I guess it can't be worse than what I've seen Dell and HP do.	Aug 05 11:10
DaemonFC	"Oh, here's a 280 watt power supply with Engrish on it, and no connectors for a graphics card. Don't worry though, you won't need any since there's no port for one either." :D	Aug 05 11:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt Creator 3.2 RC1, a cross-platform IDE	Aug 05 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	(integrated development environment) tailored	Aug 05 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	to the needs of Qt deve...	Aug 05 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/weXqmYqwQ5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy18	Aug 05 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Qt Creator 3.2 RC1, a cross-platform IDE (integrated development environment) tailored to the needs of Qt developers and part of the Qt Project, is now available for download and testing. \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Support for the 64Bit ARM architecture on	Aug 05 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 21 progressing nicely	Aug 05 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ADHmpYR0HB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy1e	Aug 05 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Support for the 64Bit ARM architecture on Fedora 21 progressing nicely \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 11:11
DaemonFC	Also, it's sort of simple. No "Oh my god, what is this thing?" cables all over the place that I'll never ever plug into anything. :)	Aug 05 11:13
DaemonFC	The one that came with my last computer even had a power cable that had been deleted from the ATX specification like 6 years prior	Aug 05 11:13
DaemonFC	Makes you wonder where they got that thing.	Aug 05 11:14
DaemonFC	Someone probably had thousands of them left over and offered to sell them for a few bucks each. Some computer companies will do anything to save a nickel.	Aug 05 11:14
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sebsebseb	hi	Aug 05 11:14
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 05 11:33
DaemonFC	I'm surprised GadgetDon is even discussing multimedia tasks with you, considering his crummy Mac that has less graphics processing power than lower mid-grade 2008 graphics cards that I've given away for free.	Aug 05 11:33
DaemonFC	hehe	Aug 05 11:33
*DaemonFC waits for Cultist Rage.		Aug 05 11:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to think like open source pioneer Michael	Aug 05 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	Tiemann http://t.co/UhIwkukAw2	Aug 05 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy74	Aug 05 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How to think like open source pioneer Michael Tiemann \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Radeon Gallium3D Is Running Increasingly Well	Aug 05 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	Against AMD's Catalyst Driver	Aug 05 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DCZcaZRtbp (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy77	Aug 05 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Radeon Gallium3D Is Running Increasingly Well Against AMD's Catalyst Driver \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Replace your proprietary BIOS with Libreboot	Aug 05 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ev3TDsY3KI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwy7b	Aug 05 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Replace your proprietary BIOS with Libreboot \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 11:46
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abeNd-org	xenapp/xendesktop is one product line i would love to see replaced by a viable/working/supportable opensource option....	Aug 05 11:59
abeNd-org	their netflow product is great, but xendesktop/xenapp... only thing it is good for is grey hair	Aug 05 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.2.6 “Still” Released by The	Aug 05 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	Document Foundation http://t.co/rZOTqRKddn	Aug 05 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hwycg	Aug 05 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.2.6 “Still” Released by The Document Foundation \| Tux Machines		Aug 05 12:21
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DaemonFC	Newegg has a deal on McAfee Internet Security 2014.	Aug 05 12:31
DaemonFC	Free after rebate + $10 Newegg gift card.	Aug 05 12:31
DaemonFC	I guess I could buy it, throw the software in the trash, and get my money back plus the gift card.	Aug 05 12:31
DaemonFC	Are they really paying people to take their software?	Aug 05 12:31
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abeNd-org	DaemonFC: lots of A/V vendors do that, Kaspersky did that for awhile @ Frys a few yrs back, then sophos	Aug 05 13:08
DaemonFC	I have no idea why they'd do that.	Aug 05 13:08
DaemonFC	Are they just hoping you come back next year and pay full price while the other guy is doing the same thing? :P	Aug 05 13:09
abeNd-org	loss leader, yep	Aug 05 13:18
abeNd-org	marketing 101	Aug 05 13:18
abeNd-org	betting some people wont send in the rebate, which most dont	Aug 05 13:18
abeNd-org	& those that do, most dont track it, or fill it out correctly	Aug 05 13:18
abeNd-org	same reason anything gives you a "free after rebate" or "free + extras after rebate"	Aug 05 13:22
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DaemonFC	Yeah.	Aug 05 13:38
DaemonFC	"You didn't fill out that rebate form 100% correctly! No rebate for you!"	Aug 05 13:38
DaemonFC	B-)	Aug 05 13:38
DaemonFC	I don't know. I've never had a rebate turned down.	Aug 05 13:39
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DaemonFC	A few have taken a REALLY long time, but I've always gotten the check.	Aug 05 13:39
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DaemonFC	I just don't think that the paid antivirus software is much better than Windows Defender.	Aug 05 13:39
DaemonFC	When Microsoft announced Security Essentials, the stock for Symantec and McAfee took a major hit the next day.	Aug 05 13:40
DaemonFC	Most people who buy a new PC don't really know that it comes with antivirus software now, because OEMs disable it when they shove in the trialware.	Aug 05 13:40
DaemonFC	Then people don't register the trialware, and it expires, and doesn't turn Defender back on. :P	Aug 05 13:41
DaemonFC	I actually have a friend that that happened to.	Aug 05 13:42
DaemonFC	Then a virus infected the system and started running amok because McAfee was over there saying "Your trial expired 500 days ago!". :)	Aug 05 13:42
abeNd-org	yea, good thing i dont have to deal with personal computers	Aug 05 13:44
abeNd-org	i just manage the companies from the A/V admin console	Aug 05 13:44
abeNd-org	& don't let licenses slide :P	Aug 05 13:45
DaemonFC	Well, I have to say that Acer makes pretty nice cases.	Aug 05 13:50
DaemonFC	I've seen ones that were WAAAAAY harder to work in.	Aug 05 13:50
DaemonFC	This one even has one of those drive bays that you unscrew and it slides out so you can get the drives in and out easily.	Aug 05 13:50
DaemonFC	Without taking a bunch of other stuff out.	Aug 05 13:50
abeNd-org	Acer, you mean eMachines/Gateway? :)	Aug 05 13:51
abeNd-org	yea, the Dell Optiplex cases are usually nice & screwless, easy to access	Aug 05 13:52
abeNd-org	even their microcases are usually laid out pretty well	Aug 05 13:52
DaemonFC	eMachines actually gave me a really good deal three PCs ago.	Aug 05 13:56
DaemonFC	I don't think they're branding desktops as eMachines anymore.	Aug 05 13:56
DaemonFC	They sell some mismatched components though.	Aug 05 13:57
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, A Core i7 4770 mixed in with a rebadged RadeonHD 7770 Ghz Edition calling itself a "8760 OEM". LOL	Aug 05 13:57
DaemonFC	That's not a terrible card, but what the hell is it doing in a machine with a Core i7? :P	Aug 05 13:58
DaemonFC	The Core i7 should probably at least be paired with a 7870.	Aug 05 13:58
DaemonFC	I guess I did OK though. I bought it knowing about that. The first thing I did was swap it out for the Geforce GTX 560 SC I already owned. :)	Aug 05 13:59
abeNd-org	an actual card or just onboard video?	Aug 05 13:59
DaemonFC	actual card	Aug 05 13:59
DaemonFC	The 7770 can run some decent games at good speed on high graphics mode	Aug 05 13:59
abeNd-org	must have been cheapest thing they had to throw in that day then, guessing this is a consumer grade machine & not business class?	Aug 05 13:59
DaemonFC	The GTX 560 is a step up though. It's closer to a RadeonHD 6870 or so.	Aug 05 14:00
abeNd-org	i was looking at the evga 750Ti superclocked, inexpensive & supposed to be a really good card for the price	Aug 05 14:00
DaemonFC	oh, I saw one on Newegg this morning.	Aug 05 14:00
DaemonFC	email deals with a rebate attached.	Aug 05 14:00
DaemonFC	It's not as powerful as my GTX 560, but it doesn't use a lot of power.	Aug 05 14:00
DaemonFC	For a card that you don't have to plug into the power supply, the 750 Ti is pretty good.	Aug 05 14:01
DaemonFC	The only downside to my GTX 560 vs the 7770 ("8760") is that the firmware on the Geforce doesn't work without BIOS interfaces.	Aug 05 14:02
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DaemonFC	So you have to use the CSM on the uEFI firmware to bring up the Geforce. :P	Aug 05 14:02
DaemonFC	And you have to do it before you swap the card or you'll just get a blank screen. :D	Aug 05 14:02
DaemonFC	and it's not secure boot compatible, of course	Aug 05 14:03
DaemonFC	heh	Aug 05 14:03
DaemonFC	So if you turn secure boot off and tell your uEFI to pretend it's a BIOS to the card, then the card will come up	Aug 05 14:04
abeNd-org1	i know they have the 1 & 2 gig version, was hoping to get 2 gig, if i can find any reason to have the extra memory...considering i dont actually game, or have the time.	Aug 05 14:04
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DaemonFC	EVGA never provided a firmware update, but you know how these companies are. "We haven't sold those in two years, so fuck you.".	Aug 05 14:04
DaemonFC	Why would you get a 2 GB?	Aug 05 14:04
DaemonFC	That's another thing I don't understand. The "8760 OEM" is a little different than the 7770 Ghz Edition. The 7770 had 1 GB, and the "8760" has 2.	Aug 05 14:05
DaemonFC	It doesn't really make any difference.	Aug 05 14:05
abeNd-org1	since i wouldnt be buying another video card for yrs, getting the most memory i could, supposedly some of the newer games can take advantage of crazy amounts of video memory	Aug 05 14:05
DaemonFC	If you ever go to run a game that needs more than a GB of vram, the card would fall over and die under that load anyway.	Aug 05 14:06
DaemonFC	So, save your money unless you just plan on running three desktops or want to use crazy high resolutions or something.	Aug 05 14:06
DaemonFC	1920 x 1080 is no problem on a 1 GB card.	Aug 05 14:06
abeNd-org1	thats what they said back when people ran the OAK256 ;)	Aug 05 14:06
DaemonFC	My GTX 560 has 1 GB. I still put it in instead of the one with 2.	Aug 05 14:07
abeNd-org1	at home i run 3 monitors, but i dont think any of the games i would play (diablo3/starcraft, not WoW if i ever had the time, or the games :)) take advantage of multimonitor	Aug 05 14:08
DaemonFC	I just don't believe it matters. There's no use trying to futureproof this stuff. After three or four years, it's done.	Aug 05 14:08
abeNd-org1	i remember back in the days some racing games & quake based ones did, Alice was awesome on triple monitor	Aug 05 14:08
abeNd-org1	yea, the 1gig version is about $30 less, i could use that to buy a game, now if only i had time	Aug 05 14:09
DaemonFC	Well, the 750 Ti would run a video game like a slideshow anyway if you tried cranking everything up.	Aug 05 14:09
DaemonFC	So, what good is 2 GB of RAM?	Aug 05 14:09
DaemonFC	yeah, the extra $30 isn't worth it. Not on that card.	Aug 05 14:10
DaemonFC	Lots of RAM makes no sense on low/mid grade cards.	Aug 05 14:10
abeNd-org1	I can possibly justify ~100 USD on a card, so the 1GB superclocked Ti750 evga would just about fit the bill, no way i can justify anything more expensive	Aug 05 14:10
DaemonFC	On top of the line ones it might, if you're running really demanding stuff on maximum settings at high res.	Aug 05 14:11
DaemonFC	Get a used card off of ebay.	Aug 05 14:11
abeNd-org1	it would still be far & above the onboard intel 4000 i have now	Aug 05 14:11
DaemonFC	The 7870s only seem to run about $70-80 by the time the auctions are done.	Aug 05 14:11
DaemonFC	They do need two 6 pins though.	Aug 05 14:11
abeNd-org1	how good is the 7870 compared to the 750Ti? i havent paid much attention to ATI	Aug 05 14:11
DaemonFC	But they would pulverize that 750 Ti.	Aug 05 14:12
DaemonFC	Like, uhh, about four times faster.	Aug 05 14:12
DaemonFC	Give or take. :)	Aug 05 14:12
abeNd-org1	the other reason i was going for the 750Ti is power requirements, wife wont approve of buying a replacement power supply	Aug 05 14:12
abeNd-org1	those 750 Ti work with 300watt PSU	Aug 05 14:12
DaemonFC	Maybe not four, but close.	Aug 05 14:12
abeNd-org1	& this was a free gateway 4860DX, so wife doesnt want me really spending $ on it	Aug 05 14:12
DaemonFC	hmmm	Aug 05 14:13
DaemonFC	I've got a 4670 and a 5670 that I'm not really doing too much with.	Aug 05 14:13
abeNd-org1	core i5, 12gb ram 1tb wdc black, so not a bad box for free, even though it moos	Aug 05 14:13
DaemonFC	The 5670 isn't a fantastic card, but it's still better than integrated video, and it doesn't need to plug into the power supply.	Aug 05 14:14
DaemonFC	Supports DirectX 11 and OpenGL 4.4.	Aug 05 14:14
abeNd-org1	yea, that & cost were the reasons i was looking at the 750Ti	Aug 05 14:14
DaemonFC	I think the 750 Ti only uses like 55 watts at maximum load.	Aug 05 14:14
DaemonFC	So, you're well under the limit of the port itself, which is 75 watts.	Aug 05 14:15
abeNd-org1	yep, i dont have the budget approval for a 900W PSU just for a $300+ video card :)	Aug 05 14:15
DaemonFC	Well, you could probably get away with a 750 Ti on that psu. I wouldn't try to run anything more.	Aug 05 14:16
abeNd-org1	hrm, newegg only has the 2GB variety	Aug 05 14:16
DaemonFC	The newer Core series processors and DDR3 RAM use less power than ever, so you could probably get close to the 75 watt port limit without risking your psu.	Aug 05 14:16
abeNd-org1	yea, the amazon reviews have people running 300watt PSU with that card & actually use it for gaming, they are happy enough	Aug 05 14:16
DaemonFC	My Core i7 4770 only uses 68 watts at full load.	Aug 05 14:16
abeNd-org1	i dont plan on playing crysis or anything like that	Aug 05 14:17
DaemonFC	The Phenom II X4 that it replaced was three times slower and used 125 watts max.	Aug 05 14:17
DaemonFC	:)	Aug 05 14:17
abeNd-org1	$125 vs $154 for 1GB vs 2GB	Aug 05 14:17
DaemonFC	well, if you can get the 2 GB version for not much more after factoring in the rebate, then go for it.	Aug 05 14:18
DaemonFC	I'd say don't pay more than $10 more, or you're being robbed. It's just not likely to be useful.	Aug 05 14:18
DaemonFC	Really, video games are pretty poorly optimized, for the most part.	Aug 05 14:19
abeNd-org1	yea, i doubt diablo3/starcraft2/older games could use more than 1GB ram	Aug 05 14:19
DaemonFC	Some developers, like Bethesda, just rush out broken unoptimized shit.	Aug 05 14:19
DaemonFC	And then they make their money and pretty much abandon it.	Aug 05 14:19
DaemonFC	and their broken game lingers on in Steam forever :)	Aug 05 14:20
abeNd-org1	coughEAcough	Aug 05 14:20
abeNd-org1	to tell the truth, all I want to play is Goat Simulator :D	Aug 05 14:20
abeNd-org1	j/k, I grew up on a goat farm as a kid, no need for a video game	Aug 05 14:20
*MinceR recommends an open source gray hair dye to abeNd-org1		Aug 05 14:25
abeNd-org1	hey, I started going grey in my early 20s	Aug 05 14:26
MinceR	:>	Aug 05 14:28
abeNd-org1	mostly because I actually cared about things	Aug 05 14:32
abeNd-org1	stupid me	Aug 05 14:33
DaemonFC	Yeah. People do whatever they want. They love to make their problem your problem. Shit happens.	Aug 05 14:41
MinceR	Hell is other people.	Aug 05 14:42
DaemonFC	MinceR, People get together and decide how to run your life.	Aug 05 14:51
MinceR	indeed	Aug 05 14:51
DaemonFC	Sometimes they call it communism, and sometimes it's capitalism. Sometimes it's a "democracy" and sometimes it isn't.	Aug 05 14:51
DaemonFC	The only question about it is how bad they're going to fuck you.	Aug 05 14:51
DaemonFC	How much of your stuff they're going to take and give to their friends.	Aug 05 14:52
abeNd-org1	it doesnt matter if it is called capitalism or communism, it is called middle management	Aug 05 14:53
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abeNd-org1	http://www.dilbert.com/2014-08-03/ illustrates it perfectly	Aug 05 14:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DMA-BUF Cross-Device Synchronization Hits Linux	Aug 05 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	3.17 http://t.co/qExyXLhVRR	Aug 05 15:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What does Docker provide if not virtualization?	Aug 05 17:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD Radeon Graphics Get Many Changes For Linux	Aug 05 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	3.17 http://t.co/zGEGS2SgpD	Aug 05 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 05 17:11
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DaemonFC	I got my SSD in	Aug 05 17:58
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DaemonFC	http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=301225665336	Aug 05 18:18
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DaemonFC	That's a pretty good deal.	Aug 05 18:18
DaemonFC	I'm adding some EVGA Geforce GTX 660 SCs to my watch list.	Aug 05 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNU C Library Exploits Closed in All Ubuntu	Aug 05 18:22
DaemonFC	Those look like a worthy upgrade for my card.	Aug 05 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	Supported OSes http://t.co/8TDqaCeB8c	Aug 05 18:22
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DaemonFC	http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-12G-P4-3999-KR-GeForce-GTX-TITAN-Z-12GB-768-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-3-0-SLI-S-/301263094013?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4624ae00fd	Aug 05 18:30
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DaemonFC	whoa	Aug 05 18:31
MinceR	gn	Aug 05 19:11
DaemonFC	Now I'm looking at the R9 270X	Aug 05 20:08
DaemonFC	That could be a good one.	Aug 05 20:08
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DaemonFC	Yeah, it looks like the R9 270X is a solid choice.	Aug 05 21:09
DaemonFC	I'm glad I didn't peel off that "Powered by Radeon" sticker. :)	Aug 05 21:09
DaemonFC	I chatted Newegg about their 10% off promo not working on a graphics card I wanted, and they said that it was because of free video games, but that they'd credit my card $19 and I can keep the free games!	Aug 05 21:11
msb	Comcast just sent me an email saying they've increased my network speed. So I reset the modem, router, and stopped and restarted the network in etc/init.d	Aug 05 21:35
msb	I tried Comcast's speed test and it said it would start in 6,000 seconds, and began counting down.	Aug 05 21:36
msb	Clever! But another speed test website did show an increase to 2.47 MB/sec, which is definitely faster.	Aug 05 21:37
msb	Of course I'm not getting any faster from the server I'm really interested in, but what the hey, it's prime time here.	Aug 05 21:41
DaemonFC	I ended up buying the R9 270 instead of the 270X.	Aug 05 22:01
DaemonFC	The 270X is only 3% faster, but the 270 was on sale for about 20% less today with free shipping.	Aug 05 22:02
DaemonFC	And it only uses 150 watts instead of 180.	Aug 05 22:02
DaemonFC	So the R9 270 is going to be almost as fast as the Geforce GTX 660 Ti for $100 less.	Aug 05 22:03
DaemonFC	Score!	Aug 05 22:03
DaemonFC	msb, I changed the order. The Sapphire Vapor X R9 270X was in their Daily Deal for $10 more.	Aug 05 22:32
DaemonFC	http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?pid=2036	Aug 05 22:36
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DaemonFC	There's what I just bought.	Aug 05 22:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samba Patched, LibreOffice 4.2.6, and Best	Aug 06 03:21
TweetTuxMachines	Browsers http://t.co/0X47FaOfH2	Aug 06 03:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is open source the key to innovation?	Aug 06 03:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Connected Car, Part 1: The Future Starts	Aug 06 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	Now - Will Linux Drive It?	Aug 06 05:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Zimbra CMO on being a great guardian of open	Aug 06 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	source's three C's http://t.co/gLgMcMT2iQ	Aug 06 11:59
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DaemonFC	I gope I can fit that card I bought into my case...	Aug 06 12:12
DaemonFC	I guess if I had to, I could take the drive bay out. All that's in the side bay is my ssd. I could move that and put it on the bottom of the case. :P	Aug 06 12:13
DaemonFC	uggh	Aug 06 12:14
DaemonFC	Is it just me or do graphics cards keep getting longer?	Aug 06 12:14
abeNd-org	hah, you never saw a VLB video card	Aug 06 12:19
DaemonFC	Oh, I'm sure that with some work, I could get it in. Giggidy!	Aug 06 12:19
DaemonFC	I don't really want to take my drive bay out, but I guess that since my hard drive is using the front bay anyway, it is an option.	Aug 06 12:20
abeNd-org	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_Local_Bus	Aug 06 12:21
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DaemonFC	The only part where Sapphire seems to have cut you a break with the Vapor-X R9 270X is that the six pin power cables plug into the side. So it's a question of whether I have 2" left behind my current card to work with without taking the drive bay out.	Aug 06 12:21
DaemonFC	That card is bigger than it looked. Tiger Direct doesn't give you the specs, so I figured it would be about the same as what I've got.	Aug 06 12:22
abeNd-org	still not as big as a VLB card http://www.interfacebus.com/VESA_Local_Bus_Pinout.html	Aug 06 12:23
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DaemonFC	My Geforce is 4.38" wide and the Vapor-X R9 270X is 4.03, so I know it will fit that way.	Aug 06 12:24
DaemonFC	My case has a thing that props up against the graphics card. I was hoping I wouldn't have to remove that too. :P	Aug 06 12:24
DaemonFC	I was thinking about editing my order again to go back to the R9 270, but that card is still 9" and the power cables plus into the back.	Aug 06 12:26
DaemonFC	I'm about 98% certain that I can get the Vapor X card in there without taking the drive bay out, but it's going to be....very close.	Aug 06 12:26
DaemonFC	This case leaves me with no margin of error.	Aug 06 12:27
DaemonFC	It's going to be pretty ugly.	Aug 06 12:28
DaemonFC	I wish my case gave me about another half inch or so.	Aug 06 12:28
DaemonFC	Well, I guess that taking the drive bay out wouldn't be such a bad thing.	Aug 06 12:30
DaemonFC	It's just more work and not what I want to be doing. lol	Aug 06 12:31
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, VLB?	Aug 06 12:31
abeNd-org	VLB Vesa Local Bus - refer to the 2 links	Aug 06 12:31
abeNd-org	it was the bus of choice with my first computer back in 94	Aug 06 12:32
DaemonFC	http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?pid=2036	Aug 06 12:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.17 Adds Support For Intel "Braswell" HD	Aug 06 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	Audio http://t.co/JTSsMG2uiw	Aug 06 12:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Flock Day One: Gijs Hillenius Keynote	Aug 06 12:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JW4uYZipSX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 12:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RasPi magazine launches today – get your free	Aug 06 12:34
TweetTuxMachines	downloads here http://t.co/xElYjohf8s	Aug 06 12:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| RasPi magazine launches today – get your free downloads here \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 12:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/jphy3Hd9jS	Aug 06 12:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines India opens up to operating system Ubuntu	Aug 06 12:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2GEBlQzzVT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 12:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/mdIGSoZldD	Aug 06 12:34
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DaemonFC	abeNd-org, The XFX Double D was half an inch shorter, but cost $70 more. I'd rather do some work with the hard drive cage than pay another $70 for what's basically the same card.	Aug 06 12:46
DaemonFC	I've had XFX cards before, and they do a good job, but they're a little steep. Still, it does kind of piss me off that Sapphire couldn't find a way to get their card down by half a smegging inch. :P	Aug 06 12:46
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, The people who made the cases for the VLB cards would have probably anticipated you using one though. :P	Aug 06 12:48
abeNd-org	yes, in fact there were guides/mounts on the edge side so it wouldn't bow	Aug 06 12:49
DaemonFC	I'd run into the same space problem with the Dual-X configuration too because it's still nearly 10" and the six pin ports are on the back. :P	Aug 06 12:51
DaemonFC	So going with the dual X wouldn't really help.	Aug 06 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/dz4ZqaLsrp	Aug 06 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 13:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/pWGqTpzXTy	Aug 06 13:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Finding Wayland at Flock 2014	Aug 06 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/youm9CYnxr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 13:08
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MinceR	http://hugelolcdn.com/i460/301754.jpg	Aug 06 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Perf-Per-Watt: Catalyst vs. Radeon Gallium3D	Aug 06 13:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fveaqzdHN2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 13:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam and HandBrake repository update	Aug 06 13:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gSw6SXR5XL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 13:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GTK+ 3 Plugins in WebKitGTK+ and Evince Browser	Aug 06 13:42
TweetTuxMachines	Plugin http://t.co/a7zxboU3Hc	Aug 06 13:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 13:42
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MinceR	http://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10268428_844504358894344_4554826229546892078_n.jpg	Aug 06 13:43
DaemonFC	Well, I asked them to cancel the order.	Aug 06 14:02
DaemonFC	I'll look for another card.	Aug 06 14:02
DaemonFC	I busted a tape measurer out and decided that this is probably a bad idea. :P	Aug 06 14:02
DaemonFC	It might still come in the mail anyway. I should have checked instead of eyeballing it. :P	Aug 06 14:03
DaemonFC	If it fits, it's going to have less than a fifth of an inch to spare without hitting that drive cage.	Aug 06 14:04
DaemonFC	So if I get it, then I'm probably going to have to take the cage out. I don't really want to. :P	Aug 06 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Optimizing the front door (your website) for	Aug 06 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	your open source project http://t.co/on87lfu8cm	Aug 06 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 14:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Optimizing the front door (your website) for your open source project \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony gives up on PlayStation Mobile for Android	Aug 06 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BnadRg0INL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 14:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Roll Your Own YouTube/Flickr with MediaGoblin	Aug 06 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3LfwFzJLCV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 14:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines More Details On GCC & LLVM Collaboration	Aug 06 14:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rTwmUDnSHt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 14:39
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DaemonFC	I'm probably going to email Sapphire after I get this card situation sorted out and ask them why their Vapor-X cooler is so long when the competition's is half an inch shorter.	Aug 06 14:39
DaemonFC	A half an inch doesn't sound like much, but I'd imagine it's the difference between the card fitting and an angry pissed off customer in a lot of cases. I think that card makers should really work to make sure that they don't go over the 10" mark. 9.9" should probably be considered a limit, because it will usually fit at 9.9 with an acceptable amount of room left over.	Aug 06 14:39
DaemonFC	Then again, I've also ran into these really long cards that have the 6 pin ports at the back, so if that's what they're doing, then 9.5" should really be considered a limit, because you have to get the damned thing plugged in. If you put it on the sides, you're giving your customer about another 0.4" of clearance at the back.	Aug 06 14:39
DaemonFC	abeNd-org, Yeah. I'm sure I can fit the card. I'm most likely going to have to take the drive cage out. Damn them.	Aug 06 16:00
DaemonFC	All this over less than a fifth of an inch.	Aug 06 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Digia spins Qt unit as a separate company	Aug 06 16:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/29bO6bKuRt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 16:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gesture-controlled home automation hub runs	Aug 06 16:02
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/r5vSTU9ZnP	Aug 06 16:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 16:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Gesture-controlled home automation hub runs Linux \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 16:02
MinceR	220219 < TweetTuxMachines> @tuxmachines Digia spins Qt unit as a separate company	Aug 06 16:03
MinceR	they could call it TrollTech	Aug 06 16:03
abeNd-org	DaemonFC: a hammer?	Aug 06 16:04
DaemonFC	uhhh, uhhhh	Aug 06 16:05
DaemonFC	Not really sure I want to do that. :)	Aug 06 16:05
DaemonFC	Tiger Direct just changed my order status to BACKORDERED.	Aug 06 16:05
DaemonFC	Those bastards.	Aug 06 16:05
abeNd-org	DaemonFC: awww come on, do some custom case modding!	Aug 06 16:05
DaemonFC	I'm just going to take the drive cage out if I have to.	Aug 06 16:06
DaemonFC	I got on the phone with their support people and got it taken care of, I think.	Aug 06 16:23
DaemonFC	Good god.	Aug 06 16:24
DaemonFC	I might not do any more orders through them!	Aug 06 16:24
abeNd-org	i havent worked with tiger direct online in years	Aug 06 16:25
abeNd-org	there is a physical store near one of my customers (renamed compusa) that I go to sometimes	Aug 06 16:25
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roy_	MinceR: haha!	Aug 06 16:58
roy_	Nokia -> magnified Trolltech	Aug 06 16:58
roy_	Then downsized as Digia and back to Oslo	Aug 06 16:58
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DaemonFC	Don't order from Tiger Direct.	Aug 06 17:29
DaemonFC	Holy fucking jumping shitballs. If I knew what their customer support was like, I would have paid the extra $20 at newegg.	Aug 06 17:29
DaemonFC	Actually more. :P	Aug 06 17:30
DaemonFC	Newegg had the graphics card I wanted for $189.99, but they charge 7% state sales tax.	Aug 06 17:30
DaemonFC	So it would have worked out to $203.29.	Aug 06 17:31
DaemonFC	I got the same card on Tiger Direct for $169.99 with no tax, and it comes with a $10 mail in rebate form to send to Sapphire.	Aug 06 17:31
DaemonFC	So, six weeks later, I'll get $10 of that back.	Aug 06 17:31
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DaemonFC	MinceR, I hate sales tax.	Aug 06 17:47
MinceR	is that VAT?	Aug 06 17:48
DaemonFC	I hate taxes period. The state says it knows how to spend my money better than I do, and when they raise my taxes, they offset the increased revenue immediately, by giving the rich another tax break.	Aug 06 17:48
DaemonFC	Not the same, really.	Aug 06 17:48
DaemonFC	VAT doesn't happen here, at least not that I'm aware of.	Aug 06 17:49
DaemonFC	With VAT, each step of the manufacturing process is taxed, so the price of the tax is built into the finished goods.	Aug 06 17:49
DaemonFC	With a sales tax, the finished good is taxed based on the price paid for the good.	Aug 06 17:49
DaemonFC	The VAT is harder to escape because in the US, each state is responsible for collecting their own sales tax, but if you buy from a company that has no physical presence in your state, then they won't collect the tax, and your state can't make them do it.	Aug 06 17:50
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DaemonFC	So you can escape the sales tax by buying from a merchant that has no physical presence in your state.	Aug 06 17:50
DaemonFC	Amazon and Newegg have warehouses in Indiana. Tiger Direct contracts their warehousing out to another company.	Aug 06 17:51
DaemonFC	So although there's a warehouse in Indiana, Tiger Direct doesn't legally have a presence here.	Aug 06 17:51
DaemonFC	The end result is that they're immediately 7% cheaper than Newegg or Amazon on an item that is the same price at both places.	Aug 06 17:51
DaemonFC	So, if you're looking to save money, you just do business with someone that isn't bound to collect the tax. You're supposed to report it on an Indiana tax form and pay it yourself, but nobody does.	Aug 06 17:52
DaemonFC	The state usually never goes after anyone for it because it would have to take them to court and prove they didn't pay $10 in tax. :P	Aug 06 17:53
DaemonFC	They don't have the budget to go through millions of online orders and sue people to get a few dollars out of each one.	Aug 06 17:54
DaemonFC	After I get my Vapor X card hooked up and running, I'm going to throw that "RadeonHD 8760 OEM" (Radeon HD 7770 Ghz Edition with extra RAM) on ebay and see if I can get some money for it.	Aug 06 17:55
DaemonFC	It's easily a $80-90 card, new.	Aug 06 17:56
DaemonFC	If I can get $60 out of it, I'll be happy.	Aug 06 17:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA 343 Linux Driver Improves EGL Support,	Aug 06 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes Many Bugs http://t.co/9xbyILEIy1	Aug 06 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| NVIDIA 343 Linux Driver Improves EGL Support, Fixes Many Bugs \| Tux Machines		Aug 06 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google under threat as forked Android devices	Aug 06 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	rise to 20% of smartphone shipments	Aug 06 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Bz2mAUHEWb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cartagena hosts Latin American Ubuntu	Aug 06 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	convention http://t.co/EedSU3OcPX	Aug 06 18:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 18:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android head-up display responds to voice and	Aug 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	gestures http://t.co/jvwc6kaUw1	Aug 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 20:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Shopping Lens (Scopes) Declared Legal in	Aug 06 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	UK and Most Likely in European Union	Aug 06 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/83YYdASNFh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 20:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Story Behind Acquisition of ‘MySQL’ by Sun	Aug 06 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	Microsystem and the Rise of ‘MariaDB’	Aug 06 20:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6I4adnNKKg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 06 20:03
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Aug 06 20:50
DaemonFC	Part of the reason for the high price of the Mac is that when you idiot-proof something, then you always end up running into a bigger idiot.	Aug 06 20:50
DaemonFC	They wouldn't need to hire so many "geniuses" if their customers didn't need to go to the "genius bar" to figure out how to plug in a printer cable.	Aug 06 20:50
DaemonFC	I heard that Apple was changing the policy so that customers could get up to 15 minutes per issue instead of 15 minutes no matter how many issues they have.	Aug 06 20:50
DaemonFC	That sounds like they'll have their hands full. Anyone who would pay for a Mac has issues.	Aug 06 20:50
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DaemonFC	Does anyone know if you can hook up a case fan to a sata power cable?	Aug 06 23:13
DaemonFC	I guess I could hook the case fan's 3 pin to the included molex adapter and then hook the moles adapter up to a moles to sata adapter and plug the sata power cable into the sata end.	Aug 06 23:16
DaemonFC	good lord	Aug 06 23:16
DaemonFC	Now I need to find an adapter that hooks up to a SATA power cable and has a male molex on the other end.	Aug 06 23:44
DaemonFC	msb__, Little help here, bro? :)	Aug 06 23:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Distro Hopping, Ubuntu's #1, and Open Source	Aug 07 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	Death http://t.co/2SazFrcUxF	Aug 07 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 04:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Computer Dating, Linux Style	Aug 07 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5xgx5Vms0b (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 04:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines China Issues Ban On iPad, MacBook Pro, And	Aug 07 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	Other Apple Products For Government Use	Aug 07 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1uAmS2FxDh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 04:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bad Microsoft Android patents may lie behind	Aug 07 06:46
TweetTuxMachines	Samsung lawsuit http://t.co/slsGSfQjZ6	Aug 07 06:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 06:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Bad Microsoft Android patents may lie behind Samsung lawsuit \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 06:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qubes 2 RC2 Is Probably the Most Secure	Aug 07 06:46
TweetTuxMachines	Operating System in Existence – Gallery	Aug 07 06:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kwBM1Oy2t0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 06:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Qubes 2 RC2 Is Probably the Most Secure Operating System in Existence – Gallery \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 06:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Android tablets (August 2014 edition)	Aug 07 06:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yzoPtCIt83 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 06:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Best Android tablets (August 2014 edition) \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 06:46
DaemonFC	Filling out a rebate form for my new graphics card.	Aug 07 06:56
DaemonFC	It's only for ten bucks, but ten bucks is ten bucks. :P	Aug 07 06:56
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msb__	DaemonFC: Sorry I couldn't answer before. How can I help you?	Aug 07 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle Solaris 11.2 Officially Released	Aug 07 08:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pvjvDaSdkG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 08:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma Addons - Where we are in Plasma5	Aug 07 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Q2csnxBCRW (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 08:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Plasma Addons - Where we are in Plasma5 \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Update to KDE Frameworks 5	Aug 07 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JQJ5E1CQUS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 10:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Update to KDE Frameworks 5 \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PCLinuxOS 2014.07 Arrives with Linux Kernel	Aug 07 10:09
TweetTuxMachines	3.15.4 and KDE 4.12.3 – Gallery	Aug 07 10:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| PCLinuxOS 2014.07 Arrives with Linux Kernel 3.15.4 and KDE 4.12.3 – Gallery \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro 0.8.11 Pre2 Lands with Xfce, Openbox,	Aug 07 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	KDE, and NET Flavors – Gallery	Aug 07 10:10
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4528196	Aug 07 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: According to some reports, #cia has removed (censored) text about torture methods (inc. "improvised") because they're illegal, cruel		Aug 07 11:23
schestowitz	"I give them credit for writing it down in the first place."	Aug 07 11:23
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4528189	Aug 07 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nixon believed #CIA involved in #Kennedy Assassination http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/friendswood/opinion/pease-nixon-believed-cia-involved-in-kennedy-assassination/article_8da10f92-7cc3-5d45-8262-899ee2191d57.html		Aug 07 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.yourhoustonnews.com \| PEASE: Nixon believed CIA involved in Kennedy Assassination - Your Houston News: Opinion [ http://ur1.ca/hxg6y ]		Aug 07 11:24
schestowitz	"They got rid of him, in any case. Watergate wasn't a triumph of investigative journalism - the Washington Post was given the story on a plate - all the sources were White House sources."	Aug 07 11:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497384207371747329	Aug 07 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Bush-Era Officials Deny 'We Tortured Some Folks' http://t.co/73EFGFFITj good photo...		Aug 07 11:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Facebook Is Hiring To Make Linux Networking	Aug 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	Better Than FreeBSD http://t.co/j503XDsV3w	Aug 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxikt	Aug 07 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Facebook Is Hiring To Make Linux Networking Better Than FreeBSD \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.17 To Drop Old POWER Processor Support	Aug 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2fq9hUWF9M (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 14:08
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4528304	Aug 07 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How #CIA #torture techniques like #waterboarding and isolation actually work http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/how-cia-torture-techniques-like-waterboarding-and-isolation-actually-work/story-fnh81jut-1227015198991 a bit #nsfw (but does not cover the cruelest ones)		Aug 07 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.news.com.au \| How CIA torture techniques like waterboarding and isolation actually work \| News.com.au [ http://ur1.ca/hxjtl ]		Aug 07 16:28
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4527866	Aug 07 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to take over natural resources (Latin America, M-E, and so on)? Create instability, allege intervention is needed. http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/08/06/shank-usaid-idINL2N0QC2EU20140806		Aug 07 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> in.reuters.com \| COLUMN-Violence or vaccines: Which path for U.S. in Africa? \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/hxjtt ]		Aug 07 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehurst: In 2014, Open	Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	Source Innovation Is Going Mainstream	Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/q5xH5mx072 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 18:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat CEO Jim Whitehurst: In 2014, Open Source Innovation Is Going Mainstream \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Back Up Your PC with Clonezilla Live 2.2.3-30	Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8TeyitOsHq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxkbs	Aug 07 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Back Up Your PC with Clonezilla Live 2.2.3-30 \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi 2 update management infrastructure to	Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	land after Fedora 21 release	Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mXxaBAj007 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 18:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Bodhi 2 update management infrastructure to land after Fedora 21 release \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines For Google, the Open and Less Open Channels for	Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	Android are All Good http://t.co/d1CaDeBOtk	Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxkbu	Aug 07 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| For Google, the Open and Less Open Channels for Android are All Good \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Scale like Twitter with Apache Mesos	Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KRijyHUOId (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 07 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxkbw	Aug 07 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Scale like Twitter with Apache Mesos \| Tux Machines		Aug 07 18:02
*TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter...		Aug 07 18:28
MinceR	gn	Aug 07 18:36
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DaemonFC	https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_update/windows-81-update-1-failing-to-install-with-errors/c3071122-e903-4775-b659-e98784bc786c?page=24	Aug 07 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-answers.microsoft.com \| Windows 8.1 Update 1 Failing to Install with errors 80070020, 80073712 - Microsoft Community [ http://ur1.ca/hxlhl ]		Aug 07 23:13
DaemonFC	LOL	Aug 07 23:13
DaemonFC	This computer bought the farm. EIEIO!	Aug 07 23:14
msb__	DaemonFC: Sorry I couldn't answer before. How can I help you?	Aug 07 23:15
DaemonFC	I was just wondering the best way one can go about powering a case fan with a SATA power cable.	Aug 07 23:24
DaemonFC	If anyone knows.	Aug 07 23:24
DaemonFC	Every Windows user needs a Chromebook. It helps them look up problems on Google when Windows doesn't work.	Aug 07 23:30
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DaemonFC	This new video card is going to be one big hairy bear to get installed.	Aug 08 01:25
DaemonFC	I am NOT looking forward to this	Aug 08 01:25
DaemonFC	It's a nice card, but I don't see why it had to be 10.3" long. That's just crazy.	Aug 08 01:25
DaemonFC	Other companies get theirs in under 10". This is kind of sloppy if you ask me.	Aug 08 01:25
DaemonFC	Looks like Walmart doesn't carry cable ties. I might just use some of those twist ties from some loaves of bread.	Aug 08 01:27
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msb__	DaemonFC: If you can't find an adapter or cable in Frys or Amazon, get 2 cables, each with the connector you want on one end, cut them in half, and solder the good halves together.	Aug 08 02:30
msb__	DaemonFC: check the voltages on the molex end before you plug it into the fan.	Aug 08 02:31
msb__	DaemonFC: You can find the pinouts in wikipedia.	Aug 08 02:32
msb__	DaemonFC: or just get a molex splitter and plug it into another fan cable	Aug 08 02:34
DaemonFC	I might just not put one on.	Aug 08 02:50
DaemonFC	If the card ventilates out the back as well as my EVGA GTX 560 SC does, then like 80-90% of that heat should just go right out the back of the card and out into the room anyway.	Aug 08 02:50
DaemonFC	You jsut don't want to fuck around and end up having all that heat building up inside the case.	Aug 08 02:51
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roy	https://twitter.com/CasparBowden/status/497676683957518336	Aug 08 05:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CasparBowden: after Snowden only foolish governments would use proprietary operating systems MT @schestowitz http://t.co/a5JrdUCNRA #EUdatap		Aug 08 05:43
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roy	https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497668154165043200	Aug 08 05:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @aral @arepty @schestowitz is there a chart showing with numbers the rise of antisemitism in Europe since 1945? I keep hearing it's raising.		Aug 08 05:49
roy	https://twitter.com/arepty/status/497668474043650048	Aug 08 05:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@arepty: @blackjack75 @aral @schestowitz The article cites some numbers, but it’s not very extensive and doesn’t go back that far.		Aug 08 05:50
roy	A lot of it might actually be tied to immigration to Europe from north Africa and M-E	Aug 08 05:50
roy	https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497670057489858560	Aug 08 05:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @arepty @aral @schestowitz that's my point. Either it goes back down between articles or by now 50% of the pop are nazis.		Aug 08 05:51
roy	https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497670201618735104 https://twitter.com/blackjack75/status/497670867531616256	Aug 08 05:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @arepty @aral @schestowitz my personal perception is that true antisemitism is actually lower than it was 20 years ago.		Aug 08 05:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@blackjack75: @arepty @aral @schestowitz now the criticism about Israeli army crimes is on the rise indeed. Maybe because they bomb civilians.		Aug 08 05:51
roy	https://twitter.com/chucker/status/497676160462254080	Aug 08 05:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chucker: @blackjack75 @aral @arepty @schestowitz a few stats: http://t.co/x0fSY5gsfN		Aug 08 05:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> wikiislam.net \| Muslim Statistics (Antisemitism) - WikiIslam		Aug 08 05:51
roy	https://twitter.com/JK5global/status/497678757017440256	Aug 08 05:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JK5global: @CasparBowden @schestowitz Francis Maude (Cabnt Office) making strenuous efforts to rid Whitehall of spyOS (MS) but insider oiks on the take		Aug 08 05:52
roy	Any links on that? I wrote numerous posts about British police and Army (and Bank of England) using OS with US back doors	Aug 08 05:53
roy	https://twitter.com/JK5global/status/497684774690238464	Aug 08 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JK5global: @schestowitz In early 90s MoD rolled out Unix across all services incl GCHQ. Motivation was security (from whom? don't know). Follow for DM		Aug 08 06:06
roy	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497685176559087616	Aug 08 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: @JK5global CESG recommends #gnu #linux but a lot of the #uk government still uses #microsoft #windows (on desktops in particular)		Aug 08 06:06
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DaemonFC	It's nice of Sprint to hand me a bill crammed with bogus charges, and then when I call to deal with the problem, it's an automated response system that says "We all went home for the night, but you can use this system to pay your bill!".	Aug 08 06:35
roy	http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article46802.html	Aug 08 06:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketoracle.co.uk \| Why UK House Prices Will Continue Rising - 'It's Immigration Stupid' :: The Market Oracle :: Financial Markets Analysis & Forecasting Free Website [ http://ur1.ca/hxnfl ]		Aug 08 06:45
DaemonFC	roy, Meanwhile, meanwhile, the US is being overrun by illegal immigrant children who are coming here to exploit a law that says that each one of them is entitled to a deportation hearing.	Aug 08 06:51
DaemonFC	They know that the system is so backed up that the judge usually lets them go and tells them to come back for the hearing in five years.	Aug 08 06:51
DaemonFC	Over half of them never show up for the hearing, and most of the others claim asylum for some reason or another.	Aug 08 06:52
DaemonFC	Nobody wants to do anything about it because it's not politically correct.	Aug 08 06:53
DaemonFC	I've seen some people that are not in the United States criticizing us for not doing more for them. Well, you want to do more for them? Here. Have some. Really. You know?	Aug 08 06:54
DaemonFC	They don't offer to help, they just criticize us and then walk off.	Aug 08 06:54
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DaemonFC	Housing prices. Only people like me have to worry about housing prices and loans and all that. Between the government and the catholic church, you can get any house you want in Fort Wayne, as long as you're not an American.	Aug 08 06:57
DaemonFC	The city went through and spent millions of dollars renovating a bunch of houses, and then they started renting them out to people with low incomes with a thing that said they own the home after so many years. So, they move in and enjoy a nice low house payment while they're tearing the shit out of the house again.	Aug 08 06:58
DaemonFC	roy, But, housing prices went up here, at least, because people expected housing prices to go up, and the loan money was cheap for a while to ensnare people.	Aug 08 07:02
DaemonFC	So, you had a house that was costing very little on interest, or you could get a low interest mortgage on your existing house and blow all the money on your lifestyle inflation, and then the ARM trap was sprung, and everyone went underwater and started losing their houses.	Aug 08 07:03
DaemonFC	Everything that happened in 2008 was at least 10 years in planning.	Aug 08 07:03
DaemonFC	I do believe that there's some people running everything, and they plan stuff decades in advance, and they know exactly what will happen and when.	Aug 08 07:05
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DaemonFC	I got the issue worked out with Sprint. :P They said it was a glitch in their system and they reversed that part of the bill. I'm glad I keep an eagle eye on my bills. :)	Aug 08 07:23
DaemonFC	They want people on autopay so that they can take whatever they want and you won't notice it.	Aug 08 07:23
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533468	Aug 08 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why won't Obama fire the liar? http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/local/item/71321-why-wont-obama-fire-the-liar spooky photo		Aug 08 13:11
schestowitz	"siempre seguirán con la misma basura porque esas 2 coaliciones que tienen son los que mayor poder tienen y la gente confía en ellos... mientras sigan en el poder y sigan los diputados también en el poder nada se puede hacer... tienen que poner diputados que no sean de esas 2 coaliciones más poderosas y luego el presidente para realizar un cambio importante en la política externa e interna de ese país..."	Aug 08 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsworks.org \| Why won't Obama fire the liar? — NewsWorks		Aug 08 13:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4532300	Aug 08 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Yahoo will rely on a version of PGP or Pretty Good Privacy encryption" http://www.hngn.com/articles/38518/20140808/yahoo-offer-one-click-encryption-emails-2015.htm or just use #enigmail		Aug 08 13:11
schestowitz	"And how secure is it from Yahoo reading it all and passing it all along to the government? I'm guessing they're not using in-browser encryption..."	Aug 08 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hngn.com \| Yahoo To Offer One-Click Encryption For Emails By 2015 : News : Headlines & Global News		Aug 08 13:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4531923	Aug 08 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](http://s.likes-media.com/img/411de70e6882091cdd872b5f6639a151) #Image #Picture #Gif - Schrödinger's #cat is not happy		Aug 08 13:11
schestowitz	"Probably because Schrödinger keeps locking it in a box and trying to kill it..."	Aug 08 13:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4529615	Aug 08 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Oracle Solaris 11.2 Officially Released http://news.softpedia.com/news/Oracle-Solaris-11-2-Officially-Released-453897.shtml		Aug 08 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| Oracle Solaris 11.2 Officially Released [ http://ur1.ca/hxp2k ]		Aug 08 13:14
schestowitz	"Solaris is still a thing? Wow."	Aug 08 13:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533542	Aug 08 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "father was brutally tortured and two of her uncles were executed...settlement with British government" for silence http://ivn.us/2014/08/08/cia-radical-bureaucracy-requires-radical-reform/		Aug 08 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> ivn.us \| The CIA: A Radical Bureaucracy Requires Radical Reform \| IVN.us [ http://ur1.ca/hxp2o ]		Aug 08 13:15
schestowitz	"Radical"	Aug 08 13:15
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533876	Aug 08 13:17
schestowitz	"I wonder if the US senate knows that it's owned by the CIA."	Aug 08 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #hogwash from pro-military site #DefenseOne http://www.defenseone.com/politics/2014/08/cia-cant-hack-senate-computers-because-they-own-them-experts-say/90881/?oref=d-channelriver cracking Windows to take screenshots worse than "hacking"		Aug 08 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.defenseone.com \| The CIA Can’t Hack Senate Computers Because They Own Them, Experts Say - Defense One [ http://ur1.ca/hxp3a ]		Aug 08 13:17
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4533748	Aug 08 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Going to war in some distant (invaded) country makes it OK to torture foreigners http://blogs.seattletimes.com/northwestvoices/2014/08/07/torture-dont-criticize-unless-youve-served-on-the-front-lines/		Aug 08 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blogs.seattletimes.com \| Torture: Don't criticize unless you've served on the front lines \| Northwest Voices \| Seattle Times [ http://ur1.ca/hxp8v ]		Aug 08 13:42
schestowitz	"I think the US is free to not leave US territory if does not like international laws."	Aug 08 13:42
MinceR	apparently others don't like international laws either	Aug 08 13:52
DaemonFC	I see that people are still running antivirus programs that they got from the pirate bay and cracked.	Aug 08 13:58
DaemonFC	doh!	Aug 08 13:58
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 13:58
DaemonFC	I think the funniest one I ever saw was where the pirates replaced the Avast Pro logo with a skull and crossbones in the about section and called it "Avast Pro: Pirate Edition".	Aug 08 14:00
MinceR	:)	Aug 08 14:04
MinceR	yarr!	Aug 08 14:04
DaemonFC	MinceR, Avast didn't used to protect their software very well, so all you needed was a serial that looked valid. So a lot of those serialz sites were passing them around.	Aug 08 14:05
DaemonFC	But at the same time, those sites were popping up IE windows and installing malware.	Aug 08 14:06
MinceR	a version of UniVBE had all three serials near the end of the executable in cleartext :>	Aug 08 14:06
MinceR	also, it doesn't matter how hard they'd try anyway, DRM doesn't work.	Aug 08 14:07
DaemonFC	true	Aug 08 14:07
MinceR	so they probably did the wise thing and didn't waste effort on it	Aug 08 14:07
DaemonFC	I used to turn Opera into the full version that way.	Aug 08 14:07
DaemonFC	It was 30 day demoware, but then they changed it to adware until you paid.	Aug 08 14:08
DaemonFC	Now it's just a broken copy of Chrome.	Aug 08 14:08
MinceR	i didn't mind the ads that much back then	Aug 08 14:08
MinceR	especially since i could turn it fullscreen or something and then then ad banner wasn't even there, iirc	Aug 08 14:08
MinceR	and shortly afterwards it became freeware	Aug 08 14:08
DaemonFC	It was using a lot of my screen at the time.	Aug 08 14:09
MinceR	:)	Aug 08 14:09
DaemonFC	Low-res CRT monitor. Ewww.	Aug 08 14:09
MinceR	s/en a/e a/	Aug 08 14:09
DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UniVBE	Aug 08 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| UniVBE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Aug 08 14:11
DaemonFC	"Many video cards have sub-par implementations of the VESA standards, or no support at all."	Aug 08 14:11
DaemonFC	Just enough to boot the computer in many cases.	Aug 08 14:11
DaemonFC	They don't really care what DOS applications do.	Aug 08 14:11
DaemonFC	http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2424175,00.asp	Aug 08 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcmag.com \| AVG AntiVirus FREE 2014 Review & Rating \| PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/hxpeq ]		Aug 08 14:14
DaemonFC	"Some users may object to numerous upsell attempts."	Aug 08 14:14
DaemonFC	Well, yeah. It's aggravating, but it's what happens when you go with the free version. Its purpose is to nag you to death until you fork over money.	Aug 08 14:14
DaemonFC	"just let avg update to 2014 today and now my graphics driver is crashing. getting 116 stop error on nvlddmkm.sys my laptop has bluescreened 3x in the past hour. i tried uninstalling avg but the uninstaller keeps crashing."	Aug 08 14:18
DaemonFC	Well, that sounds like fun.	Aug 08 14:18
MinceR	lol	Aug 08 14:18
MinceR	that sounds like a typical windows system	Aug 08 14:18
DaemonFC	Well, Vista at least.	Aug 08 14:19
DaemonFC	That's the only one I had where it would crash constantly.	Aug 08 14:19
DaemonFC	Other than Windows 98.	Aug 08 14:19
MinceR	if it doesn't crash constantly, it drops the ball constantly in a different way :>	Aug 08 14:20
DaemonFC	8.1 hasn't been so bad	Aug 08 14:21
MinceR	8.1 hasn't been inflicted on me yet.	Aug 08 14:22
MinceR	i hope it will stay that way.	Aug 08 14:22
DaemonFC	Windows Update is somewhat lulzy.	Aug 08 14:22
DaemonFC	It'll occasionally fail to install an update and not tell you.	Aug 08 14:22
DaemonFC	There's a procedure for getting it to install the "spring update" when that one fails.	Aug 08 14:22
DaemonFC	"I have been using AVG for years, and it is about to go out the window. It keeps installing it own toolbar and repeatedly switches my default search to AVG safe search even though I changed the settings numerous times. My system performance has taken a hit, and it has new 'helpful' pop up feature to tell me things I didn't ask.	Aug 08 14:23
DaemonFC	AVG has crossed the line from Malware cleaner into actual Malware."	Aug 08 14:23
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 14:24
DaemonFC	I used to use AVG. They were actually quite good. No nags or disabled feature buttons that made it obvious you were using the free version.	Aug 08 14:25
DaemonFC	I guess they turned into a bunch of greedy cocks with awful software.	Aug 08 14:25
MinceR	they adapted to the rest of the AV industry :>	Aug 08 14:26
DaemonFC	MinceR, Apparently, Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows Defender took a dive too.	Aug 08 14:27
DaemonFC	Remember when that was new and people were talking about how fast it was and how it detected and stopped almost all malware.	Aug 08 14:28
DaemonFC	Now it's failing to detect a bunch of malware that's a month old. :)	Aug 08 14:28
MinceR	remember when it decided that claria wasn't malware anymore when m$ considered acquiring them	Aug 08 14:28
MinceR	it's about as trustworthy as anything else from m$.	Aug 08 14:28
DaemonFC	I remember the Gator spyware.	Aug 08 14:30
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DaemonFC	I actually installed some "freeware" from their site about 16 years ago, not knowing what it was.	Aug 08 14:30
MinceR	gator, claria, same company :>	Aug 08 14:31
DaemonFC	yeah	Aug 08 14:31
DaemonFC	just like the Philip Morris cigarette company is Altria now.	Aug 08 14:31
DaemonFC	MinceR, I can't believe that PC World is recommending Chinese anti-virus software.	Aug 08 14:34
*MinceR shrugs		Aug 08 14:34
DaemonFC	That has to be a new low.	Aug 08 14:34
MinceR	maybe they're being paid by them	Aug 08 14:35
DaemonFC	possibly	Aug 08 14:35
MinceR	is it lower than IDG shilling m$?	Aug 08 14:35
DaemonFC	I figure that maybe some of the anti-Windows Defender/MSE stories might be coming from the paid antivirus companies.	Aug 08 14:35
DaemonFC	They're all desperate to get your money, so they could just be paying off these "labs" to make MSE/WD fail the test.	Aug 08 14:36
DaemonFC	I thought about picking up a copy of McAfee Internet Security, MinceR.	Aug 08 14:38
DaemonFC	Just because you got it free after rebate, plus Newegg tossed in a $10 gift card.	Aug 08 14:38
DaemonFC	Then I saw people complaining that they sent in the rebate form and never got their money back.	Aug 08 14:38
DaemonFC	Not just one. A bunch of people.	Aug 08 14:38
MinceR	it's horribly crap	Aug 08 14:40
DaemonFC	So, they haven't improved since Intel bought them?	Aug 08 14:41
DaemonFC	http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/07/technology/security/intel-mcafee/	Aug 08 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-money.cnn.com \| Intel renames its tainted McAfee brand - Jan. 7, 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/hxpj2 ]		Aug 08 14:42
DaemonFC	LOL	Aug 08 14:42
MinceR	i'm not sure if the version that's foisted on me is newer than that	Aug 08 14:42
MinceR	at least the new brand can be shortened to InSecurity	Aug 08 14:42
DaemonFC	I'm just not having any of it. Their antivirus software is worse than actual malware.	Aug 08 14:43
DaemonFC	There was so much bloatware on this computer before I formatted it and started over from a clean copy of the installer, that it was just fucking horrible.	Aug 08 14:48
DaemonFC	Acer really loads the machines up with a triple dose of crapware.	Aug 08 14:49
DaemonFC	It was worse than the worst Dell crapware job I've ever seen, and there was McAfee there too.	Aug 08 14:49
DaemonFC	They had all this Intel "management" crap popping up asking me to pay for theft protection.	Aug 08 14:49
DaemonFC	Then there was this animated coffee cup that kept popping up on my desktop for some reason, and popping up dialog balloons asking me to register it.	Aug 08 14:50
DaemonFC	All kind of shit.	Aug 08 14:50
MinceR	lol	Aug 08 14:52
DaemonFC	MinceR, I removed the Realtek audio driver bundle to get rid of their crapplet volume mixer, and it garbled my audio.	Aug 08 14:55
MinceR	ugh	Aug 08 14:56
DaemonFC	It's working fine now from the clean install I did from a retail ISO.	Aug 08 14:56
DaemonFC	They had some kind of equalizer software called Creative something-or-other that loaded a splash screen every time you boot Windows.	Aug 08 14:57
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DaemonFC	It was almost funny how badly they made a Core i7 system with 12 GB of RAM run.	Aug 08 14:57
MinceR	that's what the windows school of IT gives you...	Aug 08 14:58
MinceR	all the apps have to have a different skin, have to start at boot and have to put themselves everywhere and conflict with all the other apps	Aug 08 14:58
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MinceR	and no proper package management with signing	Aug 08 14:59
DaemonFC	Dell said that without crapware, the computers wouldn't be so affordable.	Aug 08 15:00
DaemonFC	Like $300 worth of components that retails for $600 affordable, like they have now....	Aug 08 15:00
MinceR	also, with proper support, dHell computers wouldn't be so affordable, i'm guessing	Aug 08 15:01
DaemonFC	They make their highest profit margins on their cheapest computers.	Aug 08 15:01
DaemonFC	Once you're down to Dell's lowest end stuff, you're talking about processors that RETAIL for $40 and motherboards that RETAIL for $50-60.	Aug 08 15:02
DaemonFC	On their systems with dedicated graphics cards, they buy cheap AMD Radeon leftovers in packs of 100.	Aug 08 15:03
DaemonFC	Like the thing Acer crammed into this computer.	Aug 08 15:03
DaemonFC	That card is going on ebay as soon as I get my R9 270X working.	Aug 08 15:03
DaemonFC	I probably won't get anything for it. 7770s are not worth a lot of money, and there are people there selling the same OEM cards in bulk.	Aug 08 15:04
DaemonFC	I wonder how they got 1,000 Dell-branded RadeonHD 7770s that were supposed to be installed into Dell computers, anyway.....	Aug 08 15:04
DaemonFC	Of course, with that card, we should be reading about how they broke into a Dell warehouse and put them all back.	Aug 08 15:05
DaemonFC	I'm just hoping I can make the new card fit. I thought 10.3" was massive (the Vapor X that I have coming), but then I noticed that they make one called a "Toxic" and that's over a foot long. Christ....	Aug 08 15:06
DaemonFC	It's not a card that needs a foot long cooler on it.	Aug 08 15:07
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 15:07
DaemonFC	Do they make a case that you can put that in?	Aug 08 15:07
MinceR	there are huge cases	Aug 08 15:07
MinceR	meant for servers and such	Aug 08 15:07
DaemonFC	Oh, I'm sure they do, but damn.	Aug 08 15:07
DaemonFC	12.5"?	Aug 08 15:07
MinceR	dunno	Aug 08 15:08
MinceR	that's the screen size of my tablet pc	Aug 08 15:08
DaemonFC	My computer would be all like "There's no way you're putting that in me!" and I'd be like "I guess I can see your point.".	Aug 08 15:08
MinceR	:>	Aug 08 15:08
MinceR	that's what she said.	Aug 08 15:08
DaemonFC	mmhm	Aug 08 15:08
DaemonFC	seriously. A 12.5" long graphics card.	Aug 08 15:09
DaemonFC	The Dual-X is only 9.8", and that's really all it needs to be. The card isn't a turbo powered $500 card or anything.	Aug 08 15:09
DaemonFC	The only reason I got the Vapor-X is because it went on sale much cheaper than the Dual-X and the bigger cooler is constructed better which allows for overclocking.	Aug 08 15:10
DaemonFC	In fact, it comes overclocked, but there's not much you're going to goose out of it.	Aug 08 15:10
DaemonFC	The overclocked model with the nicer cooler only benchmarks about 3% better than the base model.	Aug 08 15:11
DaemonFC	MinceR, That's actually what made the decision in favor of the card I have now. It went on one of those super sales and it was already overclocked, so it was up there with the 560 Ti on performance, but much much cheaper.	Aug 08 15:12
MinceR	:)	Aug 08 15:12
DaemonFC	Nvidia sets the pricing on the Ti models so much higher, that it's cheaper for OEMs to overclock them, stick a better cooler on them, and then tell you that their overclocked model is the same performance as a Ti for much less.	Aug 08 15:13
DaemonFC	I mean, overclock the base model.	Aug 08 15:13
DaemonFC	It's true. I haven't had any stability problems out of this card.	Aug 08 15:14
DaemonFC	Nvidia doesn't get to dictate what OEMs tell the firmware performance profiles to default to as far as clock speeds go..	Aug 08 15:16
DaemonFC	They just set the pricing on the chipset and then the vendors do whatever they want with them.	Aug 08 15:16
DaemonFC	AMD does much the same thing. So, there's a huge difference between the same Radeon model from different vendors, and it can be maddening trying to figure it out.	Aug 08 15:17
DaemonFC	They're all off a bit from AMD's official specification. :P	Aug 08 15:17
DaemonFC	I wish that AMD and Nvidia would just direct market their own cards and stop the madness.	Aug 08 15:18
DaemonFC	http://gizmodo.com/5392862/acers-bloatware-adds-2%252B-minutes-to-boot-time-hp-dell-and-sony-not-much-better	Aug 08 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com \| Acer's Bloatware Adds 2+ Minutes to Boot Time, HP, Dell and Sony Not Much Better [ http://ur1.ca/hxpqo ]		Aug 08 15:25
DaemonFC	"Acer: 2:01 longer boot time, 952MB larger memory footprint, 2.4GB less HDD space	Aug 08 15:28
DaemonFC	"	Aug 08 15:28
DaemonFC	sounds about right	Aug 08 15:28
DaemonFC	MinceR, That was one of the get a mac ads that made me laugh.	Aug 08 15:30
DaemonFC	The bloatware one.	Aug 08 15:30
DaemonFC	I see that Democracy 3 is still popular. That game sucked. They always killed me for turning it into a socialist paradise.	Aug 08 15:31
DaemonFC	Ungrateful bastards!	Aug 08 15:31
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schestowitz	http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1406751511291708_tall.jpg	Aug 08 16:43
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4534221 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4534318 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4534318 https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/45343184	Aug 08 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Links 8/8/2014: Qt a Separate Company Again, KDE Frameworks 5.1 Released http://techrights.org/2014/08/08/kde-frameworks-5-1-released/ #techrights		Aug 08 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Links 8/8/2014: Qt a Separate Company Again, KDE Frameworks 5.1 Released \| Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/hxqaa ]		Aug 08 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Turin to Be First Italian City to Adopt Ubuntu, Unshackle from the “Tyranny of Proprietary Software” http://news.softpedia.com/news/Turin-to-Be-First-Italian-City-to-Adopt-Ubuntu-Unshackle-from-the-quot-Tyranny-of-Proprietary-Software-quot-454152.shtml #italy #gnu #linux		Aug 08 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| Turin to Be First Italian City to Adopt Ubuntu, Unshackle from the “Tyranny of Proprietary Software” [ http://ur1.ca/hxqab ]		Aug 08 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?		Aug 08 16:45
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sebsebseb	schestowitz: ping	Aug 08 17:25
schestowitz	pong	Aug 08 17:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497856624393191425 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497856404569722880 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497856253285380097	Aug 08 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Decline in demand for #microsoft #windows (laptops) http://t.co/6lB0SiPzYQ		Aug 08 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.digitimes.com \| Digitimes Research: Top-5 vendors, top-3 ODMs see sequential drops in July notebook shipments		Aug 08 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #MediaTek posts strong sales in July http://t.co/IzdcUQell6 #china #linux #android		Aug 08 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.digitimes.com \| MediaTek posts strong sales in July		Aug 08 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Xiaomi becomes China’s top smart phone vendor http://t.co/H7eR8vkTsP #china #linux		Aug 08 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.canalys.com \| Xiaomi becomes China’s top smart phone vendor \| Canalys		Aug 08 17:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497855644255674368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497855505638100994 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497855302667362304 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497853972590624768	Aug 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Android 4.4.4 Kitkat OS update to roll out for Moto X on AT&T by end of month http://t.co/Cikje80viT #android #linux		Aug 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.christiantoday.com \| Android 4.4.4 Kitkat OS update to roll out for Moto X on AT&T by end of month \| Christian News on Christian Today		Aug 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Autonomous Android smartwatch ships http://t.co/X6tAVtvlOo #android #linux		Aug 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com \| Autonomous Android smartwatch ships · LinuxGizmos.com		Aug 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Intel Is Already Working On Linux Graphics Support For Skylake http://t.co/VApEbLjhAc #intel #linux #graphics		Aug 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com \| [Phoronix] Intel Is Already Working On Linux Graphics Support For Skylake		Aug 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Knoppix 7.4.0 Arrives with Linux Kernel 3.15.6 http://t.co/9nmyOzscYE #knoppix #gnu #linux #debian		Aug 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| Knoppix 7.4.0 Arrives with Linux Kernel 3.15.6		Aug 08 17:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497852866661744642 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497851445484740608 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497851235861819394 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497850820856397824	Aug 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Loaded headline from FOSS-hostile #idg provocateur: let's pretend #apple is on the rise, a false supposition http://t.co/qomeb3Jtku		Aug 08 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com \| Android has good reason to fear Apple's resurgence \| Mobile Technology - InfoWorld		Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Security expert calls home routers a clear and present danger http://t.co/cVSt19N5Xe many are found to have #backdoors		Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com \| Security expert calls home routers a clear and present danger \| Ars Technica		Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #apple not scary, just scared http://t.co/ncHlGqaQBQ #swpats #android #linux		Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.macobserver.com \| Patent Office Shoots Down Apple Infringement Claims Against Samsung - The Mac Observer		Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Obama Speaks Out As #FCC Releases #NetNeutrality Comments http://t.co/okmOmlHSpx #internet		Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcmag.com \| Obama Speaks Out As FCC Releases Net Neutrality Comments \| News & Opinion \| PCMag.com		Aug 08 17:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497850427120304129 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497850128548765696 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497849861082218497	Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Microsoft's Xbox One Is Failing http://t.co/8cSFX7BVtE #microsoft #xbox		Aug 08 17:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/497845388167356416	Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> seekingalpha.com \| Microsoft's Xbox One Is Failing - Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ:MSFT) \| Seeking Alpha		Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Big four carriers accused of violating the only remaining #netneutrality rule http://t.co/WB9EP1nior the 1% gets its way, again. #internet		Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com \| Big four carriers accused of violating the only remaining net neutrality rule \| Ars Technica		Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Wikimedia votes to decide who owns #monkey selfie http://t.co/rBZaRjX3r5 #copyright		Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Wikimedia votes to decide who owns monkey selfie - Telegraph		Aug 08 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Shrugs http://t.co/XbC69kujXb		Aug 08 17:32
sebsebseb	schestowitz: well already replied to her now, but what are you meant to say when someone woman online asks you what your life style and fashion is?	Aug 08 17:34
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atheenah	i found silverlight for linux	Aug 08 17:45
atheenah	https://app.box.com/s/1n3yobdl8mlsu21yj5o6	Aug 08 17:45
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atheenah	also flash 14 in a deb	Aug 08 17:46
atheenah	https://app.box.com/s/mj76blbfevr2e5a5a0zx	Aug 08 17:46
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atheenah	I love alien I can now upload tarballs well converted tarballs	Aug 08 17:48
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DaemonFC	Yeah, I need a case fan, but all I have for power is a sata power cable because of Acer's stupid power supply, so I ordered a sata to molex adapter cable off of Newegg and I'll run the case fan off of that.	Aug 08 19:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Free Software on the final frontier: GNU Radio	Aug 09 00:02
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by controls the ISEE-3 Spacecraft	Aug 09 00:02
TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto http://t.co/OuRiWa8IEk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 00:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxsmk	Aug 09 00:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Free Software on the final frontier: GNU Radio controls the ISEE-3 Spacecraft \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 00:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Which Linux Desktop Environment Should You Use?	Aug 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Hwo7RCVxET (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxt1q	Aug 09 01:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Peppermint OS 5: Light, Refreshing Linux	Aug 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sIJBhRmXtL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxt1r	Aug 09 01:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine Announcement http://t.co/2Nctut4E9g	Aug 09 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 01:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxt1s	Aug 09 01:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Peppermint OS Reviewed, GNU Radio in Space, and	Aug 09 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	KNOPPIX 7.4.0 http://t.co/ivix18t2vX	Aug 09 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxv3t	Aug 09 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Peppermint OS Reviewed, GNU Radio in Space, and KNOPPIX 7.4.0 \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Security Threats on the Rise	Aug 09 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ePTh8y4Mnk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxv3u	Aug 09 07:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle Embargoes FLOSS (Java)…	Aug 09 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/UcgRkZZUJo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 07:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxv3w	Aug 09 07:58
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MinceR	geekings	Aug 09 09:23
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*TweetTuxMachines @RedditArchLinux favourited 'Linux Security Threats on the Rise http://t.co/ePTh8y4Mnk'		Aug 09 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Flock 2014 Day 3: Building an application	Aug 09 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	installer from the ground up	Aug 09 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iesqa3RDGJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxvz0	Aug 09 11:26
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MinceR	http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2014/07-JUL/MAD-Magazine-Putin-Sharknado2_53ce7e3731de60.84763420.jpg	Aug 09 12:36
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4536566	Aug 09 12:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 'Securely' sending data to #microsoft to "dodge spies" makes as much sense as paying the Mafia "protection money" to demolish the Mafia		Aug 09 12:58
schestowitz	""Nice database youse got dere ... be a shame if it wuz to be compromised!""	Aug 09 12:58
schestowitz	MinceR: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4531690	Aug 09 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Russian Ministry of Health to Replace #Microsoft and #Oracle Products with #Linux and #PostgreSQL http://news.softpedia.com/news/Russian-Ministry-of-Health-to-Replace-Microsoft-and-Oracle-Product-with-Linux-and-PostgreSQL-453909.shtml		Aug 09 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| Russian Ministry of Health to Replace Microsoft and Oracle Products with Linux and PostgreSQL [ http://ur1.ca/hxnx6 ]		Aug 09 12:59
schestowitz	"@url=http://cronostech.no-ip.org/u/cronos]Cronos[/url], oh, that's right. I am a commie four times then :-P."	Aug 09 12:59
schestowitz	"@Cronos, oh, that's right. I am a commie four times then :-P."	Aug 09 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-connect() timed out! ( status 0 @ http://cronostech.no-ip.org/u/cronos]Cronos[/url )		Aug 09 12:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice is coming to Android	Aug 09 13:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pecEyZkRLq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 13:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxwpd	Aug 09 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice is coming to Android \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 13:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why is Skype forcing a software upgrade on all	Aug 09 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	of us? http://t.co/ei93BGChVg	Aug 09 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxwpe	Aug 09 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why is Skype forcing a software upgrade on all of us? \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 13:18
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4536603	Aug 09 13:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Tried To Delete Court Transcript In Lawsuit Over Deleting Evidence http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/08/nsa-tried-to-delete-court-transcript-in-lawsuit-over-deleting-evidence/ #nsa #coverup		Aug 09 13:21
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schestowitz	"Sometimes this all just goes beyond ironic and into being outright farce."	Aug 09 13:21
schestowitz	"Sometimes?'	Aug 09 13:21
schestowitz	"Touché"	Aug 09 13:21
schestowitz	"It's just like everything the state does now. I'm really never surprised. The only good news is coming from judges who are acting out of a sense of preservation because they know if the executive branch gets too strong they are out of a job and probably forced into exile, at the least."	Aug 09 13:21
schestowitz	"Well, I wouldn't say I was surprised. It's more that the extreme irony of this particular fact being pointed out, is pretty over the top. We know they're up to much worse than this, but most of it just isn't quite so ironic."	Aug 09 13:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD A10-7800 & A6-7400K APUs Run Great On Linux	Aug 09 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/r3CKFD37Dq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxxf7	Aug 09 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| AMD A10-7800 & A6-7400K APUs Run Great On Linux \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Starts Petition on	Aug 09 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jYqG5Q2Syq (Change.org) Addressed	Aug 09 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	to http://t.co/iWGDTgClYC (Change.org) Against	Aug 09 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Change.org \| NO TITLE		Aug 09 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Impersonating http://t.co/PBLH3QZtEU	Aug 09 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxxf8	Aug 09 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linus Torvalds Starts Petition on Change.org Addressed to Change.org Against Impersonating \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Over a Month On - Conclusion to the GNOME Shell	Aug 09 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Challenge http://t.co/zzsJPLpRJU	Aug 09 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxxf9	Aug 09 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Over a Month On - Conclusion to the GNOME Shell Challenge \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 15:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Two Intel Graphics Features Get Pulled From	Aug 09 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.17 http://t.co/WWUG4QoTFw	Aug 09 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy97	Aug 09 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Two Intel Graphics Features Get Pulled From Linux 3.17 \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Ubuntu Touch Internet Browser Has Been	Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	Redesigned http://t.co/0kxwCcAG5P	Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9b	Aug 09 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Ubuntu Touch Internet Browser Has Been Redesigned \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.1.0 and Plasma 5.0.1 on the	Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	horizon http://t.co/GrW3tnLWRF	Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9d	Aug 09 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Frameworks 5.1.0 and Plasma 5.0.1 on the horizon \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/wUusHqAmkf	Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9g	Aug 09 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/jyUUZ4kuL7	Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Aug 09 18:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/hxy9h	Aug 09 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Aug 09 18:10
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