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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Upcoming Linux-Based Smartphone Operating Systems That Aren’t Android | Tux MachinesJul 13 00:11
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4391859Jul 13 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kelvinpittman@diasp.org: Time! ![dig!](https://podricing.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_27ea23d0f4d445585f42.png) via: @{harry haller (nerdpol.ch) ; harryhaller@nerdpol.ch}, @{Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ; schestowitz@joindiaspora.com} #Stallman #time-is-not-money #time-is-time #money-is-an-empty-promise #silly-Capitalist-time-is-for-everyoneJul 13 07:33
schestowitz""Time! dig! https://podricing.org/uploads/images/scaledfull27ea23d0f4d445585f42.png via: harry haller (nerdpol.ch), Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) #Stallman #time-is-not-money #time-is-time #money-is-an-empty-promise #silly-Capitalist-time-is-for-everyone"Jul 13 07:34
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schestowitzTime! dig! https://podricing.org/uploads/images/scaledfull27ea23d0f4d445585f42.png via: harry haller (nerdpol.ch), Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) #Stallman #time-is-not-money #time-is-time #money-is-an-empty-promise #silly-Capitalist-time-is-for-everyoneJul 13 07:34
schestowitz"Jul 13 07:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4384536Jul 13 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The IRS may be targeting open source projects." http://www.itworld.com/open-source/426611/irs-scheming-destroy-open-source-projectsJul 13 07:34
schestowitz"All the more reason to think reading wired articles will get you tagged by NSA."Jul 13 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com | Is the IRS scheming to destroy open source projects? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/hq9dw ]Jul 13 07:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4390954Jul 13 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: FOSS advocate uses some fairly neutral (not Microsoft-funded) data point to claim #firefox decline http://tildehash.com/?blog=the-popularity-of-firefox-is-definitely-waningJul 13 07:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> tildehash.com | The popularity of Firefox is definitely waning! [ http://ur1.ca/hqes8 ]Jul 13 07:35
schestowitz"What are they doing with Mono? I hadn't heard that..."Jul 13 07:35
schestowitzUnity3dJul 13 07:35
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I might understand the "ads in new tabs" thing in Firefox, if it was opt-in or something, and they desperately needed the money.Jul 13 08:16
DaemonFCThey get enough from Google and donations, that I don't see why they need more money.Jul 13 08:16
DaemonFCI think they get 80% of their money from Google and most of the rest from donations.Jul 13 08:16
DaemonFChttp://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/mozilla-revenue-tops-311-million-from-open-source-technology.htmlJul 13 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Mozilla Revenue Tops $311 Million From Open-Source Technology [ http://ur1.ca/hqhpj ]Jul 13 08:17
DaemonFC"Mozilla announced its 2012 earnings this week, reporting record revenue of $311 million."Jul 13 08:17
DaemonFCI've heard people say that Google basically has two web browsers, but it's not true.Jul 13 08:19
DaemonFCMozilla is independent enough from Google that Google decided to start doing Chrome.Jul 13 08:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MPV 0.4.1 MPlayer-Based Video Player App for Linux Released | Tux MachinesJul 13 12:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chitwanix OS 1.5 Uses a Modified Cinnamon 2.0 Desktop Environment | Tux MachinesJul 13 12:36
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DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/12/libressl_portable/Jul 13 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | LibreSSL crypto library leaps from OpenBSD to Linux, OS X, more • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/hqjtr ]Jul 13 15:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Games | Tux MachinesJul 13 15:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 13 15:05
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4363123Jul 13 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We shouldn't expect #Facebook to behave ethically http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/06/we-shouldnt-expect-facebook-to-behave-ethically nothing ethical about #surveillance and selling dossiers on peopleJul 13 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | We shouldn't expect Facebook to behave ethically | Technology | The Observer [ http://ur1.ca/hpuya ]Jul 13 17:47
schestowitz"Crime is always possible, that does not make it inevitable. The strong have inherent advantages over the weak. It may be more likely in trade and business because criminals have such huge advantages. They also spend lots of money on propaganda convince us that their behavior is both inevitable and good, but we should reject their arguments of might makes right. I think most people, even some animals, intuitively understand injustice Jul 13 17:47
schestowitzand that this is a problem that can be solved."Jul 13 17:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4394015Jul 13 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blackheart Lady: Margaret Thatcher 'personally covered up' child abuse allegations against senior ministers http://www.sott.net/article/281832-Blackheart-Lady-Margaret-Thatcher-personally-covered-up-child-abuse-allegations-against-senior-ministersJul 13 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.sott.net | Blackheart Lady: Margaret Thatcher 'personally covered up' child abuse allegations against senior ministers -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net [ http://ur1.ca/hqlrb ]Jul 13 17:48
schestowitz"Oh , she wouldn't do that , that bitch ..."Jul 13 17:48
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4393340Jul 13 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "1970s when cases of unlawful covert operations... were uncovered, including spying on American citizens" http://www.cdapress.com/columns/syd_albright/article_85604792-e25c-5037-bb6e-c91d436b0862.htmlJul 13 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cdapress.com | Frank Church fought Big Brother Government - Coeur d'Alene Press: Syd Albright [ http://ur1.ca/hqlrl ]Jul 13 17:48
schestowitz"Yes, and Watergate. Now everything's papered over."Jul 13 17:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/488039869563023360Jul 13 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: VP Of EU Commission On Copyright Reform: 'I'd Sing You Happy Birthday, But I Don't Want To Have To Pay The Royalt... https://t.co/iB0Jri8zH6Jul 13 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joindiaspora.com | VP Of EU Commissi...Jul 13 17:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/487914806541049856Jul 13 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Five men suing #Obama administration after falling into ‘suspicious activity’ file http://t.co/t7qkk2gEFc ... https://t.co/jZ2LzW7mzqJul 13 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rt.com | Five men suing Obama administration after falling into ‘suspicious activity’ file — RT USAJul 13 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joindiaspora.com | Five men suing #O...Jul 13 17:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395524Jul 13 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #uk "Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Bill (DRIP). Here's the absurd timeline" http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2014/07/urgent-please-write-to-mps-to-stop-drip/index.htm we have emergency: gov. coupJul 13 18:05
schestowitz""drip".....Bad intentions dripping from it? Very likely."Jul 13 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blogs.computerworlduk.com | Urgent: Please Write to MPs Today to Stop the DRIP - Open Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/hqlxs ]Jul 13 18:05
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bdcory/status/488378917577695232Jul 13 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bdcory: @schestowitz Math and science don't lie.Jul 13 18:50
DaemonFChttp://news.distractify.com/culture/craigslist-surveillance-restaurant/?v=1Jul 13 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.distractify.com | Restaurant Watches Old Surveillance And Shares Shocking Results On Craigslist [ http://ur1.ca/hqmmi ]Jul 13 19:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dropbox 2.11.0 for Linux Brings a Revamped UserJul 13 19:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dropbox 2.11.0 for Linux Brings a Revamped User Interface | Tux MachinesJul 13 19:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/K102TiOj0CJul 13 19:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/488404303053598720Jul 13 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz How the fuck is that remotely legal?Jul 13 23:25
schestowitzThat's why I'm taking them to CourtJul 13 23:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4393502Jul 13 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Expulsion of top spy a 'wake-up call' for US http://www.dw.de/expulsion-of-top-spy-a-wake-up-call-for-us/a-17777777 counter-espionage funding http://www.dw.de/german-spies-clamor-for-counter-espionage-funding/a-17781269Jul 13 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dw.de | Expulsion of top spy a 'wake-up call' for US | World | DW.DE | 11.07.2014 [ http://ur1.ca/hqlqj ]Jul 13 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dw.de | German spies clamor for counter-espionage funding | Germany | DW.DE | 12.07.2014 [ http://ur1.ca/hqlqk ]Jul 13 23:27
schestowitz"To me the message was "please be more discret", if Germany would be really upset it would be asking its gold deposited in the US back immediately."Jul 13 23:28
schestowitz"Or it would grant Snowden asylum. There was an op-ed in Al Jazeera to this effect."Jul 13 23:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395964Jul 13 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be better if there was just one party in the US instead of one pretending to be two. GOP vs Dem. enables divide-and-rule tactics.Jul 13 23:28
schestowitz"that would be the republicrat party (or the democrican party)"Jul 13 23:28
schestowitz"Or simply list the biggest contributor by each candidate's name instead of party."Jul 13 23:28
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzYes, that would make more sense and be more honest. The Facebook candidate, the Goldman Sacks candidate, the Monsanto candidate.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzThat might be even called a multiparty democracy.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:29
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:29
schestowitz@Cronos, that's hardly a democracy, that would be corporatocracy.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzThere should be full disclosure of all donors who contributed a total minimum of, say, $1000.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:29
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzUncle Meat, it isn't 'democracy' anyway. It's a republic.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzAnd republics are all about rule by the rich.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzSee Federalist No. 10.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/488449731602165760Jul 13 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz ......I need details of this trial, also if it goes high court ima turn up in public gallery with fried chicken!Jul 13 23:30
schestowitzDoesn't need to go to High Court, I have a strong case, can finish it cheaply at 4000 quidJul 13 23:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/488450596350197762Jul 13 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Dependant on if they want to admit you have a strong case though let's be fair.Jul 13 23:32
schestowitzIt'll go as high as it needs to beJul 13 23:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4396049Jul 13 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Tonight we'll watch our first WC14 match. Supporting my team in the final. Town has huge screens. Triangle and Spinningfield.Jul 13 23:34
schestowitz"So you're going to root for Die Manshaft"Jul 13 23:34
schestowitz"Germany well deserved 1-0"Jul 13 23:34
schestowitzNot sure if well deserved, it was a close matchJul 13 23:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395864Jul 13 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recording and storing everyone's phonecalls is cheap. A cost analysis I did two years ago: at $100 per person can record everything 24/7.Jul 13 23:36
schestowitz"And with taxpayer's money there is no need to be either profitable or cheap."Jul 13 23:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4393835Jul 13 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa cares about #math like #cia cares about #security - their goals are often to derail the math and destablise the world for PowerJul 13 23:37
schestowitz"The NSA rudely bullied the US NIST into accepting flawed standards. That's derailing math to spy on people. There may be other examples."Jul 13 23:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4391352Jul 13 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #brazil got massive debt from an event where it merely gets humiliated. It used to be a football giant. Now it's an open net.Jul 13 23:38
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:38
schestowitzSomething like three weeks ago I was talking with my father, and told me how important was the victory of our national team because it was the second time in history it happened.Jul 13 23:38
schestowitzI had no idea what to say, I not even cared to watch the matches so I said nothing at all. And one week later he was upset because our team was eliminated, and to me nothing changed at all.Jul 13 23:38
schestowitzHow can you convince someone that doing something to avoid being robbed is more important than our national soccer team? I have no idea and I'm not the one being robbed so I simply let my father live the life he choose.Jul 13 23:38
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:38
schestowitz Sports are used by many nations to shift from one's own competition to one's nation. Nationalism works well for the state, more then pursuit of the success of smaller groups.Jul 13 23:39
schestowitz*thanJul 13 23:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395986Jul 13 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #surveillance and #intimidation (under the FBI pretext that this is "terrorism") has successfully crush the #occupy movementJul 13 23:43
schestowitz"Is it really crushed?"Jul 13 23:44
schestowitz""Jul 13 23:44
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:44
schestowitzI think, yes, the Occupy movement has been crushed.Jul 13 23:44
schestowitzI do not count 'Occupy Sandy' and 'Occupy Debt' as worthy of the name. They capitulate to the status quo.Jul 13 23:44
schestowitzOccupy, at the beginning, took the laudable position that it wanted nothing from the elite, but rather that their very existence was the problem. Paying off the elite or helping with civil defense is a very long ways from that initial position.Jul 13 23:44
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:44
schestowitzCorporate media in the #uk never covers #nsa Menwith Hill. It's bad enough that it has no gov oversightJul 13 23:54
schestowitzbut no press oversight either?Jul 13 23:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pick of the Bunch: Console Internet Applications | Tux MachinesJul 14 00:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cubietruck review http://t.co/kUBN4gASKlJul 14 00:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cubietruck review | Tux MachinesJul 14 00:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GSRC Brings New & Updated GNU PackagesJul 14 00:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GSRC Brings New & Updated GNU Packages | Tux MachinesJul 14 00:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     July's Record http://t.co/o8Ycf7DLZnJul 14 00:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | July's Record | Tux MachinesJul 14 00:37
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 14 05:50
DaemonFC"(my gosh somebody bought a chromebook)"Jul 14 05:50
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Laptop/zgbs/pc/565108Jul 14 05:50
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/gp/top-rated/pc/565108/Jul 14 05:50
DaemonFCChromebooks are selling like hotcakes and Windows isn't even in the Top Rated laptops until you get to #23. Jul 14 05:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon Best Sellers: Best Laptop Computers [ http://ur1.ca/hqrnl ]Jul 14 05:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com Top Rated: The best in Laptop Computers based on Amazon customer reviews [ http://ur1.ca/hqrnm ]Jul 14 05:50
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 14 05:50
DaemonFCMicrosoft Windows 8.1 - Full VersionJul 14 05:50
DaemonFC2.8 out of 5 stars. What is that? 56% is a D, if I recall correctly,Jul 14 05:50
DaemonFCWindows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit, System Builder OEM DVD 1 Pack (New Packaging)Jul 14 05:50
DaemonFCWindows 7 gets 3.9 out of five stars. 78% is like a C.Jul 14 05:50
DaemonFCSo "Best Windows ever" is a C and Windows 8 is a D. We can't compare Vista, because apparently Amazon no longer sells it, but I think it's fair to say "Big fat F". Jul 14 05:50
DaemonFCMove to GNU/Linux, where the OS is and A and F is for Freedom. B-) Jul 14 05:51
DaemonFC"Way back in the day, Nvidia got caught lying about feature support when a program asked if the card supported a particular feature, and they didn't, but the driver would say "yes, I do". This aggravated Microsoft, because it was causing DirectX problems. As in "Program asks if a feature is supported. Oh good, it's supported. I'll use it. CRASH.". :) "Jul 14 06:33
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395964Jul 14 07:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be better if there was just one party in the US instead of one pretending to be two. GOP vs Dem. enables divide-and-rule tactics.Jul 14 07:06
schestowitz"Jul 14 07:07
schestowitzSeriously, the best way to corrupt a politician is with money, giving donations does not seems to me a good idea.Jul 14 07:07
schestowitzI like Mexico's elections system, and I'm compelled to believe that its system (not their politicians) is one of the best in the world. For example, donations are forbidden, they have assigned a budget according to the amount of voters they got and if a party spends more of the money alloted then they might got the poll declared void.Jul 14 07:07
schestowitzI have not a good idea about a supposed Super PAC in the US intended to support politicians that pledge to support ending this practice, but to me that's like trying to buy politicians and corporations have more money to play that game.Jul 14 07:07
schestowitz"Jul 14 07:07
schestowitz"If a campaign budget is allocated by the number of votes a candidate gets, how does a candidate foresee how many votes s/he'll win? Or, if the budget is based on past performance, then how is that fair to the equivalent of, say, the Green Party in the U.S.? Would it not lock them into a perpetually underfunded campaign?"Jul 14 07:07
schestowitz"Indeed, I think it would be better if all parties had the same funds regardless of its past performance, but if you think that there are fringe parties everywhere then you avoid wasting money in them. And I think there is a minimum, and Mexican parties have alloted equal time in mass media (besides paid ads) so is not like small parties had no opportunity at all."Jul 14 07:08
schestowitz"Jul 14 07:08
schestowitzBy the way, if you think that Mexican elections are expensive you're right, funding all the parties and the way elections are carried out (no electronic voting) makes them expensive even for first-world standards, but at least the elections are fair more or less.Jul 14 07:08
schestowitzBut having a good system is half a good democracy, the other half are good citizens voting for good candidates and I think that is not the case.Jul 14 07:08
schestowitz"Jul 14 07:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4393502Jul 14 07:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Expulsion of top spy a 'wake-up call' for US http://www.dw.de/expulsion-of-top-spy-a-wake-up-call-for-us/a-17777777 counter-espionage funding http://www.dw.de/german-spies-clamor-for-counter-espionage-funding/a-17781269Jul 14 07:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dw.de | Expulsion of top spy a 'wake-up call' for US | World | DW.DE | 11.07.2014 [ http://ur1.ca/hqlqj ]Jul 14 07:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dw.de | German spies clamor for counter-espionage funding | Germany | DW.DE | 12.07.2014 [ http://ur1.ca/hqlqk ]Jul 14 07:09
schestowitz"No, if Snowden is wise he will never be back in the West, not even Latin America is safe enough."Jul 14 07:09
schestowitz"@cronos@cronostech.no-ip.org , on this, I fear you're right."Jul 14 07:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4394001Jul 14 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: redneck yank in an SUV... ![redneck yank in an suv](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7nbmdSHIS1qz9bu3o1_500.jpg) #redneck #bigot #conservative #english #grammar #dumbass, #yank #suv #yankee #carcultureJul 14 07:10
schestowitz"Urine America"Jul 14 07:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395928Jul 14 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #Gestapo Still Sets the Bar for Evil http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/13/the-gestapo-still-sets-the-bar-for-evil.html "Decades before the NSA..."Jul 14 07:21
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schestowitz"Damnation of the NSA by faint praise."Jul 14 07:21
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4393837Jul 14 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why the Return of American Torture Is Inevitable http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/return-american-torture-future even the films now promote torture and assassinationJul 14 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com | Why the Return of American Torture Is Inevitable | Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/hqsh6 ]Jul 14 07:21
schestowitz"The War of Terror continues."Jul 14 07:21
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schestowitzhttp://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/07/i-am-not-a-pacifist/Jul 14 07:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » I am not a Pacifist [ http://ur1.ca/hqsmu ]Jul 14 07:36
schestowitz"The British retaking of the Falklands was legal. The Argentinian invasion was not. But lots of things are legal but not sensible. The government deliberately resolved the Falklands war in the most violent way possible to benefit from jingoism and overcome a disastrous popularity crisis for the Tories at home. Britain’s continued colonial rule over the Falklands is ludicrous."Jul 14 07:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/annejanbrouwer/status/488597233592705024Jul 14 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@annejanbrouwer: Well @schestowitz technically since Palestine isn't a country and thus has no military it should be 100% civilians .. right?Jul 14 09:26
schestowitzThese terms are loosely defined by the dominator. The US likes to call all adult males "militants".Jul 14 09:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/488610184030617600Jul 14 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz I'm glad to hear it, will you be keeping everyone updated on progress.Jul 14 10:18
schestowitzlate summer/autumnJul 14 10:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/488622962082590720Jul 14 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Not long then!Jul 14 10:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     This Is What It's Like To Be A Woman CEO In TheJul 14 10:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Is What It's Like To Be A Woman CEO In The Male-Dominated Open-Source Software World | Tux MachinesJul 14 10:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source boost as Linux Conference heads toJul 14 10:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source boost as Linux Conference heads to Auckland | Tux MachinesJul 14 10:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LFTP 4.5.3 File Transfer Software Is for PeopleJul 14 10:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LFTP 4.5.3 File Transfer Software Is for People Who Love the Terminal | Tux MachinesJul 14 10:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488627884605444097  https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488628298486792193Jul 14 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not existJul 14 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz Kitsilano Software is just me. No hidden agenda. What I've been doing with @monotizen is an open book. See Twitter, Github ...Jul 14 11:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488628716440788992  https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488628936562061312 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488629310559760384Jul 14 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz @monotizen ... and blogs. Ended an 18 year career in big company games (http://t.co/kFgox2fkgJ), now working for @roadhousehqJul 14 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> bobsummerwill.wordpress.com | End of an era | Bob's BlogJul 14 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz @monotizen And @roadhousehq use @unity3d because just about all small games companies use @unity3d. It's the best there is.Jul 14 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz @monotizen And what makes @unity3d so good? The @monoproject, and the productivity of C#.Jul 14 11:23
schestowitz"Hey @schestowitz! Kitsilano Software is literally just me. No hidden agenda. What I've been doing is an open book."Jul 14 11:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488629820763291648Jul 14 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz As for @monotizen and my involvement in @TizenProject, I did that project because @xamarinhq didn't. @ztzg contracted for me.Jul 14 11:24
schestowitzme: @BobSummerwill @monotizen @TizenProject @xamarinhq @ztzg Why encourage #linux devs to use C# (with MS #swpats )?Jul 14 11:24
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/07/android-apps-on-windows-phone-would-be-an-ugly-capitulation/Jul 14 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Android apps on Windows Phone would be an ugly capitulation | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/hqv45 ]Jul 14 11:29
DaemonFCAnother way to look at this is sort-of good news.Jul 14 11:29
DaemonFCWindows Phone flopped and Microsoft is looking to cease development and try to freeload off of Android instead.Jul 14 11:30
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/emergency-windows-update-revokes-dozens-of-bogus-google-yahoo-ssl-certificates/Jul 14 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Emergency Windows update revokes dozens of bogus Google, Yahoo SSL certificates | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/hqv7x ]Jul 14 11:36
DaemonFC"People using default versions of Mac OS X, Linux, and other operating systems are also immune since they don't trust CCA-authorized sites."Jul 14 11:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488630206320476160 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488630368396787712 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488630756508307458 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488632010424864768Jul 14 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz Every line of the work we did was in the open at https://t.co/HJ75Eu18XM. You'll see posts at https://t.co/e4F6EekxxU ...Jul 14 11:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> developer.tizen.org | Forums | Tizen DevelopersJul 14 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz and at http://t.co/Fd7NnY2Hvj, and more importantly at @monotizen and @bobsummerwill. No hidden agenda whatsoever.Jul 14 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> go-mono.com | Forums - MonoJul 14 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz Getting the @monotizen Mono Runtime working on Tizen turned out to be literally one #define change (https://t.co/a8fKzNmwqK)Jul 14 11:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz The @monoproject have a clear and long-standing statement of position on patent-risk http://t.co/DfTn9NOBaP.Jul 14 11:54
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488632307591294978  https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488632622436716544   https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488633357895344128Jul 14 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz With the creation of the @dotnetfdn (http://t.co/TL4qLcnidq) and Microsoft and Xamarin's strategic partnership, I think the ...Jul 14 11:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz ... risk of patent claims against @monoproject is now close to zero, because @monoproject's success is now important to MS.Jul 14 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz The @monoproject lets MS reach iOS and Android, as Windows wanes in importance. Linux is the winner by side-effect.Jul 14 11:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488634091378470912 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488635618390319104 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488636108297605121Jul 14 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz I detest software patents. I was delighted to see @elonmusk throw away theirs. @monoproject carries no special risk, IMHO.Jul 14 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz @monotizen @TizenProject @xamarinhq @ztzg Because C# is a hugely productive language. HTML5 and C++ are not good enough.Jul 14 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz @monotizen @TizenProject @xamarinhq @ztzg Software patents threaten all software. Mono is nothing special.Jul 14 11:55
schestowitzthis is what Microsoft is trying to tell the world and why Mono is dangerousJul 14 11:56
MinceRooh, mono advertisement on our feedJul 14 11:56
schestowitz I have written extensively about problems with mono http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MonoJul 14 11:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mono - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1x784 ]Jul 14 11:56
schestowitzMinceR: just showing you what he saysJul 14 11:57
schestowitzhe is trying to put Mono in TizenJul 14 11:57
schestowitzand I'm hoping to convince him not to waste time on itJul 14 11:57
schestowitzhe has a daytime job, he should focus more on thatJul 14 11:57
schestowitzHe's a Brit who moved to CanadaJul 14 11:57
schestowitzHis wife is Canadian it seems...Jul 14 11:57
schestowitzthe project is a one-man effort, but could potentially expandJul 14 11:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488636552017235969Jul 14 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: FIGHT ON! I've been called a patent troll and tool of the evll @Microsoft / @xamarinhq empire for making @monotizen https://t.co/2rEyHZt23nJul 14 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Software Patents Demising in the US as #Microsoft Patent Attacks on #Android/#Linux Suffer a Huge Setback http://t.co/nIYTh5g1nD #swpatsJul 14 11:58
schestowitzComplete Bulls***, you were not called a patent troll or a toolJul 14 11:59
MinceRgeekingsJul 14 12:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi Model B+ http://t.co/6xjStdfjv5Jul 14 12:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Model B+ | Tux MachinesJul 14 12:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical and Ubuntu Helped Munich SaveJul 14 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Millions of Dollars by Ditching MicrosoftJul 14 12:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Products http://t.co/gDoZH3is4cJul 14 12:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical and Ubuntu Helped Munich Save Millions of Dollars by Ditching Microsoft Products | Tux MachinesJul 14 12:26
DaemonFCI wonder if switching from EXA to glamor would work.Jul 14 12:54
DaemonFCThe manpage for my radeon driver suggests it will.Jul 14 12:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Road Ahead | Tux MachinesJul 14 13:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04: Is Canonical taking on too much?Jul 14 13:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04: Is Canonical taking on too much? | Tux MachinesJul 14 13:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat CEO Whitehurst on VMware, OpenStack andJul 14 13:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat CEO Whitehurst on VMware, OpenStack and CentOS | Tux MachinesJul 14 13:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/JJGqjSxkg4Jul 14 13:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 14 13:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu With Linux 3.16 Smashes OS X 10.9.4 OnJul 14 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 The MacBook Air http://t.co/x6PdC0niv6Jul 14 18:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu With Linux 3.16 Smashes OS X 10.9.4 On The MacBook Air | Tux MachinesJul 14 18:02
DaemonFCOh wow. Switching from EXA to GLAMOR really sped things up.Jul 14 18:09
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 14 19:47
DaemonFCThe "system refresh" didn't fix any of the problems on my brother's Windows laptop, even after I gave up and told it to do a complete refresh where it wipes the data.Jul 14 19:47
DaemonFCObviously, it is NOT re-installing the OS files, it just deletes your data, resets a few settings to default values, and then a brisk several hours later, it welcomes you back to broken OS minus your files.Jul 14 19:47
DaemonFCThen congratulates you for being a sucker that bought Microsoft Big ****pile 8.1.Jul 14 19:47
DaemonFCIt works fine now. Humming right along with Kubuntu 14.04 LTS.Jul 14 19:47
DaemonFCTalk about fix and forget. That laptop won't have any more software problems until the day the hardware fails. Jul 14 19:47
*DaemonFC is blowing steam about Windows 8.Jul 14 19:48
Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/14/nickel-ipad-rash/Jul 14 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | iPad Implicated in Pediatric Rashes Diagnosed as Nickel Allergies - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/hr4if ]Jul 14 19:51
SosumilulzJul 14 19:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat to be a Key Contributor to andJul 14 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Benefactor of the Kubernetes ProjectJul 14 20:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat to be a Key Contributor to and Benefactor of the Kubernetes Project | Tux MachinesJul 14 20:07
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 14 20:07
DaemonFCI always used to chuckle when a new processor came out and one of the benchmarks would be how fast it scanned C:\Windows for viruses.Jul 14 20:07
DaemonFCThat's just so awesome. At least they admitted, in a round about way, why you needed a new $400 processor.Jul 14 20:07
DaemonFCWhat else would you use one for?Jul 14 20:07
DaemonFC"The Microsoft Office benchmarks are next."Jul 14 20:07
DaemonFCOh. Damn. Sorry I asked! Jul 14 20:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is making your product free and open sourceJul 14 20:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is making your product free and open source crazy talk? | Tux MachinesJul 14 20:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CentOS 7 Comes on the Heels of Red HatJul 14 20:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Enterprise Linux 7 http://t.co/tNcRonc9NvJul 14 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS 7 Comes on the Heels of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 | Tux MachinesJul 14 20:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu With Linux 3.16 Smashes OS X 10.9.4 OnJul 14 20:08
TweetTuxMachines                 The MacBook Air http://t.co/hOfrfHLnEHJul 14 20:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GParted Live 0.19.1 Beta 1-2 Is the BestJul 14 20:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian 7.6 "Wheezy" Officially ReleasedJul 14 20:09
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DaemonFC"Stick around! Next we'll see how long it takes Microsoft Internet Toolbar Explorer to load!"Jul 14 20:16
DaemonFCIt's like a car accident. I can't look away..... Jul 14 20:16
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MinceRlolJul 14 20:25
Sosumim$ is actually copying apple now on what appeared to be leaked images of windblows 9Jul 14 20:31
Sosumiall glassy themed gui and with the metro crap put inside a modified windows 7 start menuJul 14 20:32
Sosumias widgetsJul 14 20:32
Sosumibut the lsd flavour is all over itJul 14 20:33
MinceRso, still worse than xpJul 14 20:33
Sosuminever used xp personally to compareJul 14 20:33
Sosumibut still no virtual desktopsJul 14 20:34
Sosumiwhich on my opinion are excelent productivity boostesJul 14 20:35
MinceRthat's too complicated for ordinary usersJul 14 20:35
Sosumi*boostersJul 14 20:35
MinceRand microdronesJul 14 20:35
MinceRand crApple cultistsJul 14 20:35
Sosumicrapple has thoseJul 14 20:35
MinceRtheirs is fucked up, afaikJul 14 20:35
MinceRcan't separate the windows from an application from each otherJul 14 20:35
Sosumiand switches to another desktop when you close a program on your present oneJul 14 20:38
Sosumifor no reasonJul 14 20:38
Sosumiwhich was a bug introduced on 10.9 when they finally made the virtual desktops display indepedentJul 14 20:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unofficial Android L port lands for HTC OneJul 14 22:54
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395964Jul 15 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be better if there was just one party in the US instead of one pretending to be two. GOP vs Dem. enables divide-and-rule tactics.Jul 15 01:34
schestowitz"Jul 15 01:34
schestowitzThe more parties you fund the more expensive it will be; I think that in Mexico any party with more than 2% of the population supporting it can run for the presidency but I'm not so sure.Jul 15 01:34
schestowitzBesides that, I think half the work should be done by political parties and the other half by the citizens, I think that not having massive funding like the main parties should NOT be a reason for people not voting them.I find hard to believe that people can find cats in the Internet easily but are unable to find candidate's plan and trajectory. If people will vote for the candidate with the better ads then that's the kind of presidentJul 15 01:34
schestowitzthey will have, one good in marketing.Jul 15 01:34
schestowitzTalking about the US, what about Bernie Sanders? I have not hear so much about him but all what I have heard is good:Jul 15 01:34
schestowitzhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/18/bernie-sanders-2016_n_4295872.htmlJul 15 01:34
schestowitz"Jul 15 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | Bernie Sanders Open To 2016 Presidential Run [ http://ur1.ca/hr89u ]Jul 15 01:35
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schestowitz"Jul 15 01:35
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schestowitzThe only real problem I have with Bernie Sanders is that he participates in authoritarian political system and seeks solutions in it, disregarding that the system itself is the problem.Jul 15 01:35
schestowitzHe represents a small state, Vermont, which is probably unique in the U.S. It has, for instance, enacted and is in the process of implementing a single-payer health care system. There is a secession movement there that is probably better developed than any other in the country, and the people there would secede for the right reasons, for example, opposition to neoconservative war, opposition to neoliberalism, etc., which make Vermont Jul 15 01:36
schestowitzsomething of an outlier.Jul 15 01:36
schestowitzIt is inconceivable that a self-identified socialist could be elected U.S. Senator from any other state.Jul 15 01:36
schestowitzSanders runs as an independent but usually votes with Democrats; he is effective to the extent that Democrats can use him to advance their agenda. Outside that agenda, his words are, very sadly, nothing more than hot air.Jul 15 01:36
schestowitzSanders is far from disproof of two-party (I'm being generous: Gore Vidal and Noam Chomsky have said much the same thing as @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) did in opening this thread) hegemony; if anything, he simply further proof of it.Jul 15 01:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft to push cheaper Windows PCs toJul 15 04:40
TweetTuxMachines                 compete with Chromebooks http://t.co/MvTUCwIJUAJul 15 04:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft to push cheaper Windows PCs to compete with Chromebooks | Tux MachinesJul 15 04:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     “World’s first” iris recognition smartwatchJul 15 04:40
TweetTuxMachines                 runs Android http://t.co/9lHE5vgGARJul 15 04:40
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395964Jul 15 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be better if there was just one party in the US instead of one pretending to be two. GOP vs Dem. enables divide-and-rule tactics.Jul 15 07:58
schestowitz"Jul 15 07:58
schestowitzHalf of what you have said about Sanders and Vermont sounds good to me, but since I'm not a US citizen I see no case in investigating further.Jul 15 07:58
schestowitzAnyway, I think that we have to try the easier and less violent ways first, because if that does not work then you have no other choice than taking a gun and try to end the regime or running away. Doing nothing but complaining does not look a solution to me, is more like a therapy.Jul 15 07:58
schestowitzI think that the best revolutions, the ones where the whole society advances and are more lasting, are the ones where almost nobody dies like in Iceland, the others where scores of people die are by themselves unsustainables and sooner or later they become only a change of tyrant.Jul 15 07:58
schestowitz"Jul 15 07:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4399241Jul 15 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Hamas 'claims responsibility' for drone attacks" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/14/israel-shoots-down-gaza-drone-live-updates not exactly interested in ceasefireJul 15 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Egypt proposes Israel-Gaza ceasefire as death toll nears 200 - the day's events | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/hrbi6 ]Jul 15 07:58
schestowitz"Why should they be interested in a ceasefire? They are killed with impunity no matter what they do. The problem is that Palestinians are treated like caged animals. This is looking like a repeat of operation "Cast Lead", which basically proves all of the lock down, murder and punishment worthless. Do we want a future where collective punishment is eternally dished out on a population that only becomes more bitter each time?"Jul 15 07:58
schestowitz> http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.odgJul 15 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-couldn't connect to host ( status 0 @ http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.odg )Jul 15 08:13
schestowitz> http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.pngJul 15 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-couldn't connect to host ( status 0 @ http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.png )Jul 15 08:13
schestowitzServe down. What's there?Jul 15 08:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MLinux Allinone Edition 9.1 Beta HasJul 15 08:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Everything You Need http://t.co/GIQuml59EZJul 15 08:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux Allinone Edition 9.1 Beta Has Everything You Need | Tux MachinesJul 15 08:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fermilab Releases Scientific Linux 7.0 Alpha 2Jul 15 08:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fermilab Releases Scientific Linux 7.0 Alpha 2 | Tux MachinesJul 15 08:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     halting problem :: codes of conductJul 15 08:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | halting problem :: codes of conduct | Tux MachinesJul 15 08:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Linux Desktop, FreeDOS Still Matters, andJul 15 08:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Darksiders http://t.co/CyyTuTtT4GJul 15 08:29
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4404810Jul 15 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The US government breaks into networks, computers, servers etc. while calling intrusion into them "cyber terrorism". Labeling itself?Jul 15 09:32
schestowitz"Try reasonong with amerikans , and you'll understand . Yeserday a guy explained to me that anglosaxons had the right to the land because before the 'red' people , there were nordic in amerika ?? And he's suposedly an educated , openminded person ."Jul 15 09:33
schestowitzwow. Maybe he watched some fiction movie, like one where Transformers were the reasons dinosaurs went extinct! :-)Jul 15 09:33
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schestowitz>>> http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.odgJul 15 09:45
schestowitz>>> >> http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.pngJul 15 09:45
schestowitz>> > Jul 15 09:45
schestowitz>> > Serve down. What's there?Jul 15 09:45
schestowitz>> > Jul 15 09:45
schestowitz> A fake campaign sticker promoting Snowden and Binney for president /Jul 15 09:45
schestowitz> vicepresident in 2016Jul 15 09:45
schestowitzIt would be hilarious if I could see if, but it's still down.Jul 15 09:45
*TweetTuxMachines @RedditArchLinux favourited 'Best Linux Desktop, FreeDOS Still Matters, and Darksiders...'Jul 15 09:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Firefox in a Fix? http://t.co/WtA64oDQELJul 15 09:48
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrc39Jul 15 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Firefox in a Fix? | Tux MachinesJul 15 09:49
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395964Jul 15 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be better if there was just one party in the US instead of one pretending to be two. GOP vs Dem. enables divide-and-rule tactics.Jul 15 10:01
schestowitz"Jul 15 10:01
schestowitzIndeed. The difficulty with violent revolution is that it replaces one set of thugs with another.Jul 15 10:01
schestowitzBecause you need thugs to win.Jul 15 10:01
schestowitzThe trouble is that I see no prospect that the elite will willingly give up power. Indeed, what we see with increasing police brutality not just in the U.S. but around the world, increasing militarization of the police, domestic spying and other brutal forms of repression of dissent is that the elite have no qualms about using violence to preserve their position.Jul 15 10:01
schestowitz"Jul 15 10:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/488969462868373504Jul 15 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Murdoch calls for ISPs to be liable for users' activities http://t.co/dVvS8Svv3a the 1% wants to crush whatever exposes the 1%Jul 15 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Murdoch calls for ISPs to be liable for users' activities • The RegisterJul 15 11:09
schestowitzEveryone's yard always looks less green than the neighbour's. UK has its issues also.Jul 15 11:10
MinceRgeekingsJul 15 11:36
MinceRhttp://www.patheos.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/2011/11/cult-leaders-vs-the-pope/Jul 15 12:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tell the FCC: Net Neutrality is crucial to freeJul 15 13:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft Said to Announce Job Cuts as Soon asJul 15 13:16
TweetTuxMachines                 This Week http://t.co/MLj6wLqfWoJul 15 13:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Said to Announce Job Cuts as Soon as This Week | Tux MachinesJul 15 13:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apple iPhone 6 Clone Surfaces in China as CCTVJul 15 13:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why is Cabinet Office Holding Back Microsoft'sJul 15 14:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why is Cabinet Office Holding Back Microsoft's ODF Emails? | Tux MachinesJul 15 14:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New AMD Catalyst 14.6 Beta Video Driver forJul 15 14:48
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Sosumithe iphone’s aluminum treatment also causes herpesJul 15 15:31
Sosumior was it arsenic allergy? :PJul 15 15:32
Sosumiso, another thing to watch out forJul 15 15:32
Sosumiand just not the NSAJul 15 15:32
Sosumi*nickel allergiesJul 15 15:33
Sosumimsdos logicJul 15 15:40
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4406674Jul 15 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Endless stream of brutal imagery required for war on terror propaganda" http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-and-cia-want-to-keep-isis-tweeting-exploiting-social-media-to-keep-the-endless-war-on-terror-alive/5391222?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pentagon-and-cia-want-to-keep-isis-tweeting-exploiting-social-media-to-keep-the-endless-war-on-terror-aliveJul 15 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalresearch.ca | Pentagon and CIA Want to Keep ISIS Tweeting: Exploiting Social Media to Keep the Endless War on Terror Alive | Global ResearchJul 15 16:51
schestowitz"I guess new bin laden is needed for western fat cats to continue justifying war in islamic countries. Just saying..."Jul 15 16:51
MinceRor the people living in the middle east will never be at peace until no more than one group survivesJul 15 16:55
MinceR(various muslim cults that hate each other and the jews)Jul 15 16:56
abeNd-orgso, turn off the news & let them sort it out themselves?Jul 15 16:56
MinceRdunnoJul 15 16:59
MinceRi'm afraid them sorting it out themselves will lead to nuclear winter over here, tooJul 15 16:59
MinceRi'm not sure if that's avoidable at allJul 15 16:59
abeNd-orgso we should have turned off the news & let them sort it out pre-nukeJul 15 17:00
MinceRi wouldn't turn off the newsJul 15 17:01
MinceRi'm not sure what purpose that would serveJul 15 17:01
abeNd-orgwell, does it matter if you watch it or not? do you have any power to change anything going on?Jul 15 17:04
MinceRi might have enough to seek shelter for myself :>Jul 15 17:05
MinceRalso to learn from it in the case i manage to surviveJul 15 17:06
abeNd-orgmeh, if it is your time...Jul 15 17:07
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/kde-plasma-5-releasedJul 15 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | KDE Plasma 5 Arrives with Fresh New Look, True ConvergenceJul 15 17:18
DaemonFCCONVERGENCE!!!!Jul 15 17:20
DaemonFCWhat is it with them using that word all over the place?Jul 15 17:20
DaemonFCSomeone said Chrome is dangerous to use because it has a shell.Jul 15 17:28
DaemonFCI corrected him.Jul 15 17:28
DaemonFC"crosh is hidden so that normal users will never find it, and you can't really do anything with it that could harm the system even if you're a complete moron. Complete morons who accidentally load a crosh tab, don't know what it is, and start typing stuff, won't figure out how to become root (the chronos account) anyway.Jul 15 17:28
DaemonFCOf course, there's an explanation for users who do accidentally hit the key combo to bring up a crosh tab, that says :If you got here by mistake, just close this tab.".Jul 15 17:28
DaemonFCChromebooks are so easy to use that anyone could use one.Jul 15 17:28
DaemonFCOS X and Windows have shells out in plain site. Your "normal user" can even open one up and totally destroy the operating system. People manage to use those systems. Some of the dumbest morons who have ever lived figure out Windows and OS X, and those are much harder to use than Chrome OS."Jul 15 17:28
MinceRthis sense of convergence is that you're supposed to be able to use the same ui on phones, tablets, laptops, desktop pcs, etc.Jul 15 17:33
DaemonFChttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2012/12/18/10378851.aspxJul 15 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.msdn.com | Why was Pinball removed from Windows Vista? - The Old New Thing - Site Home - MSDN BlogsJul 15 17:39
DaemonFCMinceR, I don't want the UI on my computer to be the same as on my phone.Jul 15 17:39
DaemonFCThat wouldn't make a very good experience.Jul 15 17:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenWRT 14.07 RC1 Brings Native IPv6 Support,Jul 15 17:39
TweetTuxMachines                 New Init System http://t.co/yXttagnNt4Jul 15 17:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenWRT 14.07 RC1 Brings Native IPv6 Support, New Init System | Tux MachinesJul 15 17:39
DaemonFChttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2005/12/01/498882.aspxJul 15 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.msdn.com | What one Windows XP feature am I most proud of? - The Old New Thing - Site Home - MSDN BlogsJul 15 17:41
DaemonFCSome of these are actually kind of funny.Jul 15 17:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Plasma brings a cleaner interface on top ofJul 15 17:48
TweetTuxMachines                 a new graphics stack http://t.co/vubbRZuSx6Jul 15 17:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Plasma brings a cleaner interface on top of a new graphics stack | Tux MachinesJul 15 17:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Announcing Project Zero http://t.co/x7nl7S33z2Jul 15 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcing Project Zero | Tux MachinesJul 15 17:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     “To whom much has been given, much is expectedJul 15 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 in return” – Free Software economicsJul 15 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | “To whom much has been given, much is expected in return” – Free Software economics | Tux MachinesJul 15 17:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Linux Desktop: Top 10 CandidatesJul 15 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Desktop: Top 10 Candidates | Tux MachinesJul 15 17:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/YgLXE8tNIfJul 15 17:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 15 17:54
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schestowitz_Goblin: heJul 15 19:01
schestowitzheyJul 15 19:01
_Goblinhi there!Jul 15 19:01
_Goblinhows things.Jul 15 19:01
schestowitzgood. and you? Still in England?Jul 15 19:10
_GoblinyepJul 15 19:16
_Goblincompleted on house in US though nowJul 15 19:17
_Goblinwe will be north east for the next few months at least tho...Jul 15 19:18
_Goblinso as of Aug we'll be quite close geographicallyJul 15 19:18
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2dthDSGkc#t=96Jul 15 19:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Plasma 5.0 Visual Feature Guide - YouTubeJul 15 19:20
DaemonFCThere's a ISO with KDS Plasma 5 on it to try out, based on Kubuntu.Jul 15 19:20
DaemonFChttp://files.kde.org/snapshots/neon5-latest.isoJul 15 19:21
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75Jul 15 19:24
schestowitzDaemonFC: have you tried it yet?Jul 15 19:24
schestowitzIf so, can you post what you're seeing now?Jul 15 19:24
schestowitz_Goblin: can we come to visit this summer or is it inconveniencing to others?Jul 15 19:25
schestowitz_Goblin: I read your article today. Let's hope we can resume the show as a sort of trans-Atlantic thingJul 15 19:25
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DaemonFCI'm in the middle of downloading it. I figured I'd make a Live USB out of it and take it for a spin, to see what's going on.Jul 15 19:29
_Goblinnot at all....we'll be in Seaham this summer...Jul 15 19:30
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_Goblinas for transatlantic stuff...if you make a G+ account we can work it no probs....I've done a recording with someone from PA.Jul 15 19:31
schestowitzI can do thatJul 15 19:31
schestowitzThe show can then be made video-based too, though I guess the formats would annoy someJul 15 19:32
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm downloading it. I'll take screenshots while I'm using it.Jul 15 19:32
schestowitzif you do some techrights ones, I will share in twitter tomorrowJul 15 19:38
schestowitz_Goblin: caught up with the other two messages (I had restarted konversation). Yes, we need to arrange to meet up (the wives too) some time this summerJul 15 19:47
DaemonFCI'm amazed at how much HexChat has cleaned up the old XChat code.Jul 15 19:47
DaemonFCI don't remember XChat ever working this well. Jul 15 19:47
DaemonFCI wonder whatever happened to that XChat-GNOME thing. GNOME seems to be writing a new IRC program, so I take it they didn't rebase the old one off of HexChat.Jul 15 19:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4404699Jul 15 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Still no lawsuit from #noip or its customers against #microsoft - perhaps proving that you can freely commit crimes when you're large enoughJul 15 19:49
schestowitz"Waiting for that too."Jul 15 19:49
schestowitzXChat always worked well for meJul 15 19:49
schestowitzI have run it non-stop (maybe half a day downtime twice in all those years) since 2008Jul 15 19:50
DaemonFCAny plans to move to HexChat now that XChat is dead?Jul 15 19:50
DaemonFChttp://hexchat.readthedocs.org/en/latest/changelog.htmlJul 15 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hexchat.readthedocs.org | HexChat ChangeLog — HexChat 2.10.0 documentationJul 15 19:51
DaemonFCThe changelog is pretty extensive.Jul 15 19:51
schestowitzI have scripts tied to xchatJul 15 19:53
schestowitzI run it on two machinesJul 15 19:54
schestowitzactually, on threeJul 15 19:54
schestowitzDebian, Kubuntu, and my laptopJul 15 19:54
schestowitzSo moving to something that might not be on the repos or consistently built might not offer any gainsJul 15 19:54
DaemonFCFedora is carrying both and has backported some of the patches to XChat to fix major problems.Jul 15 19:55
MinceRDaemonFC: sometimes i would want the two UIs to be the sameJul 15 20:06
MinceRbut not alwaysJul 15 20:06
MinceRi suspect that xchat scripts would run mostly (or completely) the same on hexchatJul 15 20:07
MinceRit's the same codebase, after allJul 15 20:07
MinceRas for the winblows xp thing, i'd really like to see a good task schedulerJul 15 20:08
MinceRon whatever kernelJul 15 20:08
schestowitzit seems like lots of work for no gainJul 15 20:11
schestowitzI don't use xchat for features, just for logging, and it's stable, not just lightJul 15 20:12
MinceRan upgrade is "lots of work"? :>Jul 15 20:16
schestowitzyesJul 15 20:19
schestowitzit's not a simple upgrade but a package swapJul 15 20:19
schestowitzfor little or no substantial gainJul 15 20:19
DaemonFCThose are the best kind!Jul 15 20:43
schestowitzplasma 5 demos hardly show me any new featuresJul 15 21:07
schestowitzexcept search-related, which I'd never allow (indexing is a waste)Jul 15 21:08
DaemonFCBaloo improved things a lot.Jul 15 21:09
DaemonFCI think they switched over to Baloo on KDE 4 at the last minute to get rid of one of the major warts that never had been addressed up to that point. Nepomuk.Jul 15 21:12
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DaemonFCWell, that was unimpressive.Jul 15 21:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/7ZZoXbP8wPJul 15 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/6pdzQ9xDTaJul 15 21:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJul 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FFmpeg 2.2.5 Officially ReleasedJul 15 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FFmpeg 2.2.5 Officially Released | Tux MachinesJul 15 22:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 0.8.10 Receives Its Third Update PackJul 15 22:09
TweetTuxMachines                 and Linux Kernel 3.15 SupportJul 15 22:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 0.8.10 Receives Its Third Update Pack and Linux Kernel 3.15 Support | Tux MachinesJul 15 22:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Advances JPEG Encoding with mozjpeg 2.0Jul 15 22:17
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DaemonFCschestowitz, https://i.imgur.com/NBOfnu0.pngJul 15 23:08
DaemonFChttps://i.imgur.com/aKRg9Mb.pngJul 15 23:08
DaemonFChttps://imgur.com/n9S6cIqJul 15 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | imgur: the simple image sharerJul 15 23:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     $35 OpenWRT SBC targets educational appsJul 15 23:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $35 OpenWRT SBC targets educational apps | Tux MachinesJul 15 23:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Imad Sousou: The Future of Linux and Intel inJul 16 00:00
TweetTuxMachines                 the New Connected World http://t.co/sJffkFPPfPJul 16 00:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Imad Sousou: The Future of Linux and Intel in the New Connected World | Tux MachinesJul 16 00:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Offers Up A Free Crash Course In AndroidJul 16 00:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Development http://t.co/XQJt6rOTOKJul 16 00:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Offers Up A Free Crash Course In Android Development | Tux MachinesJul 16 00:08
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4409089Jul 16 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft's mouthpiece at #CondeNasty (Ars) is upset that #Microsoft is abandoning #Windows http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/07/android-apps-on-windows-phone-would-be-an-ugly-capitulation/Jul 16 08:00
schestowitz"To be fair, Android apps on a Windows platform would be gross. I already dislike this whole "fake native" solution of just having enough of a runtime to run Android apps because your own platform doesn't get enough traction. The whole thing is sloppy as hell."Jul 16 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Android apps on Windows Phone would be an ugly capitulation | Ars TechnicaJul 16 08:00
schestowitz"This article silently asserts that developers are writing applications for Windows, as if it were still 1995. They are not. The rest of the article rambles on pointlessly."Jul 16 08:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4405855Jul 16 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Presumption of guilt based on garments http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jasjit-singh/the-nsa-mohammed-raghead-_b_5584736.htmlJul 16 08:01
schestowitz"Ignorance ...."Jul 16 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com | "Mohammed Raghead" and Fighting the Anti-Turban Bias that Plagues Our Land of Liberty | Jasjit SinghJul 16 08:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4409096Jul 16 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Western media's coverage of #ukraine is so deceiving that one is likely to get a better analysis from Ukranians on the streetsJul 16 08:01
schestowitz"If you have Ukrainian aquaintances."Jul 16 08:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4409065Jul 16 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "working to change state law to legalize the activities under investigation." http://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/07/12536/after-john-doe-subpoenas-wi-gop-sought-quietly-change-law #wisconsin apes #uk on #surveillanceJul 16 08:02
schestowitz"So typical of our lawless oligarchs."Jul 16 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.prwatch.org | Exclusive: After Subpoenas in Walker Criminal Probe, WI GOP Sought to Quietly Change Law | PR WatchJul 16 08:02
schestowitz> http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/07/14/this-is-why-the-government-should-never-control-the-internet/Jul 16 08:07
schestowitz> Jul 16 08:07
schestowitz> The Post of course.Jul 16 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | This is why the government should never control the internet - The Washington PostJul 16 08:07
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 16 08:20
DaemonFCThere are only two kinds of Mac in the "mainstream" market.Jul 16 08:20
DaemonFCSlow and 'spensive and less slow and "arm, leg, eye, kidney, and testicle" 'spensive.Jul 16 08:20
DaemonFCWhen Apple introduced the $1099 iMac recently, Ars Technica did a write up that concluded that you lost roughly 50% of the performance from the $1299 model, to save 18% of your money.Jul 16 08:20
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/07/1099-imac-review-lose-50-of-your-performance-to-save-18-of-the-money/Jul 16 08:20
DaemonFCStaggering? Not really. People who keep an eye on Apple know that if the price seems too good to be true, it's probably junk.Jul 16 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | $1,099 iMac review: Lose 50% of your performance to save 18% of the money | Ars TechnicaJul 16 08:21
DaemonFCYou could get yourself a niiiiiiiiiice PC for $1099 or a severely brain damaged iMac. Your call. Jul 16 08:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE 5 is Here, LibreSSL Unsafe, and Debian 7.6Jul 16 08:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Released http://t.co/yokbF8bdLbJul 16 08:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE 5 is Here, LibreSSL Unsafe, and Debian 7.6 Released | Tux MachinesJul 16 08:41
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TweetTuxMachines                 SoC http://t.co/NCy9BTuOeEJul 16 08:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny module runs Linux and LabView on ARM/FPGA SoC | Tux MachinesJul 16 08:49
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schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489202878658379776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489203164416319488Jul 16 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #DRIP heroes, round one https://t.co/E5hgZTe5AD "Voting against the programme motion - ... https://t.co/TGlCFJulPsJul 16 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - #DRIP heroes, round oneJul 16 09:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "working to change state law to legalize the activities under investigation." http://t.co/xoPoMjJm0T #wisconsin apes #uk on #surveillanceJul 16 09:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489202817971007488 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489202878658379776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489203164416319488 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489205646047580160 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489205757234388992Jul 16 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CISA: The Banks Want Immunity and a Public-Private War Council http://t.co/HPL5Eua9fH #banks work directly with Keith Alexander now. #cisaJul 16 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.emptywheel.net | CISA: The Banks Want Immunity and a Public-Private War Council | emptywheelJul 16 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Dan Goodin (Cande Nasty) and his longtime Jihad against Linux security reputation carries on http://t.co/7sEKp2PEWhJul 16 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Only a few days old, OpenSSL fork LibreSSL is declared “unsafe for Linux” | Ars TechnicaJul 16 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: [recent enough to be relevant] #Mozilla Revenue Tops $311 Million http://t.co/BclolRg2on it will survive, surely...Jul 16 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eweek.com | Mozilla Revenue Tops $311 Million From Open-Source TechnologyJul 16 09:05
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4409096  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4409097Jul 16 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Western media's coverage of #ukraine is so deceiving that one is likely to get a better analysis from Ukranians on the streetsJul 16 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Filtering (by editing) voices on the streets to suit a narrative that a broadcast company already chose is neither journalism nor reportingJul 16 09:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Detailed review of Plasma 5Jul 16 09:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Detailed review of Plasma 5 | Tux MachinesJul 16 09:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KaOS Calms Down KDE http://t.co/nG2SbI0qZxJul 16 09:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to use public PCs safely with LinuxJul 16 09:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to use public PCs safely with Linux | Tux MachinesJul 16 09:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 9 Core and Ultimate are releasedJul 16 10:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 9 Core and Ultimate are released | Tux MachinesJul 16 10:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE AnnouncementJul 16 10:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE Announcement | Tux MachinesJul 16 10:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04: The good, the bad, the UnityJul 16 10:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04: The good, the bad, the Unity | Tux MachinesJul 16 10:22
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 16 10:35
DaemonFCMicrosoft is talking about a product that doesn't exist (Windows 9) and may not exist for years, to suppress criticism of Windows 8.Jul 16 10:35
DaemonFCWith Microsoft, the "new version that fixes everything you hate" is always just around the corner. They've been pulling that trick for three decades now, because it works.Jul 16 10:35
DaemonFCThey started talking about a "more reliable dos-less Windows" for consumer PCs back in the 1980s. Guess when consumers got their "more reliable dos-less Windows"? Late 2001.Jul 16 10:35
DaemonFCTheir "Evangelism" guide clearly states that when people talk poorly of the current software, you try to change the focus to something that doesn't exist and is right around the corner, any minute now.Jul 16 10:35
DaemonFCThe old tricks are the best tricks. They're even "leaking" out mocked up screen shots again. Will people ever learn? Jul 16 10:35
DaemonFCIf people still hate Windows 9, they'll have the "Windows 10 promotion machine" while underway, and then they'll have another tool at their disposal. "Windows 7 is almost end of life. You don't have a choice." Jul 16 10:41
DaemonFCwellJul 16 10:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux for cars: Automotive Grade Linux rivalsJul 16 10:43
TweetTuxMachines                 CarPlay and Android Auto http://t.co/GPXjoAjxU7Jul 16 10:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux for cars: Automotive Grade Linux rivals CarPlay and Android Auto | Tux MachinesJul 16 10:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Seagate rolls out NAS range with its ownJul 16 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux-based operating systemJul 16 10:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1GntzM8edW (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 10:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Seagate rolls out NAS range with its own Linux-based operating system | Tux MachinesJul 16 10:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2 expected in 2017, FoundationJul 16 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 focussed on software for nowJul 16 11:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 2 expected in 2017, Foundation focussed on software for now | Tux MachinesJul 16 11:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel to ship Galileo Gen2 open-source computerJul 16 11:09
TweetTuxMachines                 in August for $60 http://t.co/Dvgoa0IaLVJul 16 11:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel to ship Galileo Gen2 open-source computer in August for $60 | Tux MachinesJul 16 11:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cloud, open source power TransLink's WebJul 16 11:18
TweetTuxMachines                 presence http://t.co/OU9CEAqKQOJul 16 11:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cloud, open source power TransLink's Web presence | Tux MachinesJul 16 11:18
DaemonFChttps://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/CurrentBudgetFAQJul 16 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.gnome.org | FoundationBoard/CurrentBudgetFAQ - GNOME Wiki!Jul 16 11:25
*DaemonFC head desksJul 16 11:25
DaemonFCThey're out of cash because they spent too much on the Outreach Program for Women?Jul 16 11:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crowdfunding for open source softwareJul 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YdEuDJ3tRm (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 11:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding for open source software | Tux MachinesJul 16 11:26
DaemonFChttp://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.13.3.phpJul 16 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kde.org | KDE - KDE Ships July Updates to Applications, Platform and Plasma WorkspacesJul 16 12:08
DaemonFCA whole bunch of old Konqueror/KHTML bugs got closed.Jul 16 12:10
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189774Jul 16 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189774 )Jul 16 12:10
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274534Jul 16 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274534 )Jul 16 12:10
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279241Jul 16 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279241 )Jul 16 12:10
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301588Jul 16 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301588 )Jul 16 12:10
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336041Jul 16 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336041 )Jul 16 12:10
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336046Jul 16 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336046 )Jul 16 12:11
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336940Jul 16 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336940 )Jul 16 12:11
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337000Jul 16 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337000 )Jul 16 12:11
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337008Jul 16 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337008 )Jul 16 12:11
DaemonFCIt's nice to see them fixing up some of this before they leave KDE 4 behind.Jul 16 12:11
DaemonFC5 bugs were fixed in KDE Plasma Workspaces 4.11.11 and 55 were fixed in Applications 4.13.3.Jul 16 12:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How open source can solve Silicon Valley'sJul 16 13:55
TweetTuxMachines                 engineering crisis http://t.co/I8P7MX3MelJul 16 13:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How open source can solve Silicon Valley's engineering crisis | Tux MachinesJul 16 13:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DistroWatch resolves its domain registrarJul 16 14:04
TweetTuxMachines                 problems http://t.co/FyuVZkfXKyJul 16 14:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DistroWatch resolves its domain registrar problems | Tux MachinesJul 16 14:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Next Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE)Jul 16 14:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Versions May Be Built Only On The StableJul 16 14:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Versions Of Debian http://t.co/dCjtecWSIlJul 16 14:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Next Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) Versions May Be Built Only On The Stable Versions Of Debian | Tux MachinesJul 16 14:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/UGbk6X6b5PJul 16 20:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 16 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/7QzVyrUaAlJul 16 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 16 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Applications and Platform 4.13.3 Is theJul 16 20:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Last Update in the SeriesJul 16 20:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Applications and Platform 4.13.3 Is the Last Update in the Series | Tux MachinesJul 16 20:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/T3oEzUkbrQJul 16 20:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux MachinesJul 16 20:53
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 16 20:58
DaemonFCWindows is a great way to see more of your family outside of the holiday seasons. Jul 16 20:58
DaemonFCJust give them a laptop with Windows on it for Christmas, and they'll be breaking down your door all the time asking you to un**** it for them. ;)Jul 16 20:58
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 16 20:58
DaemonFCI knew good things were in the pipeline when Google bought Android and I heard "linux" and "phone", Jul 16 20:58
DaemonFCIt felt like I waited forever to have the opportunity to buy a smartphone, because none existed before that. Jul 16 20:58
DaemonFCI'm watching Firefox OS, but right now it still sounds a lot like the first iPhone, where it was just a web browser on a phone and Jobs was all like "Apps!? We don't need apps!". Bleh!Jul 16 20:58
MinceRhuh? smartphones existed long before thatJul 16 20:59
MinceRtreos, for exampleJul 16 21:01
DaemonFCWhat's a treos?Jul 16 21:09
MinceRplural of treo.Jul 16 21:31
abeNd-orgoh the old Treos were greatJul 16 21:33
abeNd-org650 was the first great smartphoneJul 16 21:33
abeNd-orgpalm lacked in the marketing dept, which was kinda sadJul 16 21:34
MinceRindeedJul 16 21:36
MinceRalso kinda sad when they licensed a kernel that could multitask but didn't pay enough for multitaskingJul 16 21:37
MinceRand so they couldn't multitask when symbian couldJul 16 21:38
DaemonFCThat sucks. Why couldn't they just use a Free kernel?Jul 16 21:38
MinceRdunnoJul 16 21:38
MinceRthey would have used one in Palm OS 6Jul 16 21:38
MinceRbut that didn't happenJul 16 21:38
MinceRthey came up with webOS insteadJul 16 21:38
MinceRbut that had a free kernel too :>Jul 16 21:38
DaemonFCThat's always funny when a company has a product that could be good, but they nickel and dime it to death and they tank.Jul 16 21:39
MinceRindeedJul 16 21:41
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_TreoJul 16 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Palm Treo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJul 16 21:51
DaemonFCWindows Mobile Jul 16 21:51
DaemonFCBlecth!Jul 16 21:51
MinceRnormally they shipped Palm OS, thoughJul 16 21:52
MinceRfunny how they had to shrink the screen for the winblows versions because poor little winblows mobile couldn't handle more than 320x240 pixelsJul 16 21:52
MinceRtypical microsoft scalability.Jul 16 21:52
abeNd-orgthe centro was a great phoneJul 16 21:56
abeNd-orgthe last palmos 5.x, & solid little phone tooJul 16 21:57
abeNd-orgit was "small" but the keyboard was still plenty usableJul 16 21:57
abeNd-org& it could survive mother in laws running theirs through the wash twiceJul 16 21:57
abeNd-org3rd time killed the batteryJul 16 21:57
abeNd-orgthen we got her a palm pixi, she did the same thing to it too, it lasted through 2 washings & the 3rd killed the mic/speakers/battery, but the device would still power onJul 16 21:58
MinceRi don't know why people treat their phones so harshlyJul 16 22:00
abeNd-orgknock on particle board, ive never broken one of mineJul 16 22:02
abeNd-orgthe MiL's excuse is the centro/pixi were so light she didnt notice them in her pockets, & she is a taller woman so those phone were pretty smallJul 16 22:03
abeNd-orgso now shes got an iphone with one of those obnoxiously large gorilla casesJul 16 22:03
abeNd-orgbut when she had the centro/pixi she used them, so they werent a problem for an "elderly" personJul 16 22:04
MinceRi did have a phone the hinge mechanism in which broke the thing from the insideJul 16 22:04
abeNd-orgthe iphone though her brother suggested, she cant stand :PJul 16 22:04
MinceRit might have had a crack prior to it though, i'm not sureJul 16 22:04
MinceRhttp://www.szeretlekmagyarorszag.hu/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/asp_620_kerekessz.jpgJul 16 22:07
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schestowitzhehJul 16 22:29
DaemonFCJapa Mala Illo My hexchat experience is too awesome, I can't handle it. Do you have a fix for that?Jul 16 22:32
DaemonFCHexChat Um, how about... switching to mIRC for a while?Jul 16 22:33
DaemonFCLOLJul 16 22:33
abeNd-orgpidgin ftw!Jul 16 22:33
MinceRlolJul 16 22:33
abeNd-orgsync my profiles/settings/etc cross platform via dropboxJul 16 22:34
schestowitzDaemonFC: thanks for the screenshots, will use them soonJul 16 22:34
abeNd-orgseriously, pidgin is great, i have aim/yahoo/msn/skype/multiple irc networks/steam/google chat/groupwise IM all in one interfaceJul 16 22:34
DaemonFCabeNd-org, Have you heard of Telepathy?Jul 16 22:35
DaemonFCIt has the Haze plug-in too, so it can tap into libpurple.Jul 16 22:35
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abeNd-orgno,i haventJul 16 22:36
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abeNd-orgdoesnt look crossplatformJul 16 22:37
DaemonFCIt has a frontend for GNOME and KDE that I know of.Jul 16 22:37
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy_(software)Jul 16 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Telepathy (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/hrhir ]Jul 16 22:38
abeNd-orgyea, but for work i still have to use windows, no matter how much people here hate it, it still dominates the enterpriseJul 16 22:38
MinceRthe enterprise does not consist entirely of desktop pc-sJul 16 22:40
MinceRand some enterprises have minimal winblows usageJul 16 22:40
abeNd-orgall the ones i work for doJul 16 22:41
MinceRsucks to be themJul 16 22:41
abeNd-orgwell, going back to financial apps, there are no alternatives on linux for the likes of http://www.cchgroup.com/roles/accounting-firms/prosystem-fxJul 16 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cchgroup.com | ProSystem fx® Suite [ http://ur1.ca/hrhjb ]Jul 16 22:42
abeNd-orgso, there is no way they could use linux if they wanted toJul 16 22:42
MinceRyeah, there's no way such software could be developed for GNU/LinuxJul 16 22:43
MinceRor ported to itJul 16 22:43
MinceRright?Jul 16 22:43
MinceRalso, wine doesn't existJul 16 22:43
abeNd-orgdeveloper wont port to linux & doesnt support it running on wine, already askedJul 16 22:43
MinceRthen they'll be beaten by somebody who willJul 16 22:44
abeNd-org& when it comes to dealing with company/rich individual taxes, you dont want to screw up thingsJul 16 22:44
MinceRexactlyJul 16 22:44
MinceRso you don't want to run microsoft softwareJul 16 22:44
abeNd-orgso far no one has even talked about linux alternativesJul 16 22:44
MinceRso they do want to screw up things, after allJul 16 22:44
MinceRgood for themJul 16 22:44
abeNd-orgso, if there is no linux alternative, & none on the horizon, you cant use a non-existent linux productJul 16 22:45
MinceRyeah, it's not like a business could pay someone to develop a new productJul 16 22:45
MinceRsuch things never happen.Jul 16 22:45
abeNd-orgyes, but you have full vendor support running it in a supported environment, and if something is hosed up, it is on the vendor's head. if i were to run this in linux/wine, it would be on my headJul 16 22:45
abeNd-orgyes, sure, someone *could*, but no one *has*Jul 16 22:46
MinceRinteresting how that vendor believes they can support an environment that is under microsoft's controlJul 16 22:46
abeNd-orgfeel free to email & ask them about itJul 16 22:46
MinceRi don't care that muchJul 16 22:47
abeNd-orgi already have & they said no linux, not even on the back endJul 16 22:47
MinceRi'm not the customerJul 16 22:47
MinceRif they insist on being incompetent, maybe it will doom them one day, maybe it won'tJul 16 22:47
abeNd-org& that is just one example, http://www.shelbysystems.com/ is another example that is pure windows, & there is no linux alternativeJul 16 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.shelbysystems.com | Church Management Software | Shelby Systems - Shelby Systems : Church Management SoftwareJul 16 22:47
MinceRi'm sure lots of businessed to church managementJul 16 22:48
MinceRs/d to/s do/Jul 16 22:48
abeNd-orgI have plenty of linux back end servers for file/print/dns/dhcp/etc at different customers, but if the product is mssql based, then it is going to be on windows, & if there is no alternative, then you are stuck with windowsJul 16 22:48
MinceRif the product is mssql based then it's going to suckJul 16 22:49
MinceRi've used mssql once and it was enough for lifeJul 16 22:49
abeNd-organother one that is windows only & there is no linux (server or client) alternative http://www.librarica.com/Jul 16 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.librarica.com | CASSIE and SPOT - Public Computer and Printer ManagementJul 16 22:51
abeNd-orgid love some patron management software that can manage windows/linux/osx with a windows or linux backend & is SIP2 compliant so it can dovetail properly into http://evergreen-ils.org/egdownloads/ (which actually does have a linux backend & windows/linux clients)Jul 16 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-evergreen-ils.org | Evergreen Downloads | Evergreen ILSJul 16 22:52
abeNd-orgeven simple things like the management software to access points http://www.ubnt.com/download/ run apache for windows, but don't have a linux versionJul 16 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubnt.com | Ubiquiti Networks - DownloadsJul 16 22:55
MinceRsome of it will probably be taken care of by the cloud hypeJul 16 22:55
MinceRafter all, if your clients are just using a web browser, it doesn't matter that much if they move to a different platformJul 16 22:56
abeNd-orgright, & a lot of that cloud will be windows poweredJul 16 22:56
MinceRunlikelyJul 16 22:56
abeNd-orgagain, if there isnt a linux version of it, you cant run it in linuxJul 16 22:56
MinceRagain, if your business needs a GNU/Linux version, it will have one madeJul 16 22:57
abeNd-orgwhy would a company spend its own money for someone to create a full featured enterprise app when one that does everything they need already exists?Jul 16 22:57
MinceRthe company would have to spend its own money on it anywayJul 16 22:58
abeNd-orgforget the platform, it doesnt make sense to build from scratchJul 16 22:58
MinceRnotice how these companies all want to sell itJul 16 22:58
MinceRit made sense to build from scratch for the ones you're linking toJul 16 22:58
MinceRafaik those markets aren't barred to newcomers yetJul 16 22:58
abeNd-orgi know a lot of auto dealerships around here all had customer built auto software, some windows, some linux, most have quit developing it & moved to the ADP platform because it had way more options than their internally maintained ever didJul 16 22:59
abeNd-org& the ADP platform is on windows for the backend, & while the front end is webbased it still uses .net for windowsJul 16 22:59
abeNd-org& those that did have linux custom backends only had windows clients, because everything else in the business at the client level ran on windowsJul 16 23:01
MinceRpreach on, i've got to get some sleep nowJul 16 23:03
abeNd-orgas i said, ive got plenty of linux back endJul 16 23:04
abeNd-orgbut if there isnt linux software for task X, then i cant use linux for itJul 16 23:04
MinceRas i said, if i'm a business, and i need GNU/Linux software for task X, i'll have GNU/Linux software for task XJul 16 23:05
MinceRthat's how business worksJul 16 23:05
abeNd-orgthen there isnt much demand for GNU/Linux software for common enterprise tasksJul 16 23:06
abeNd-org^outside of the server roomJul 16 23:06
MinceRmicrosoft is working on thatJul 16 23:06
MinceRcase in point: vista, 7, 8Jul 16 23:06
abeNd-orgaccounting/hr/etcJul 16 23:06
abeNd-orgwell, no one has stepped up as of yet to provide a meaningful GNU/Linux alternative to any of the softwares ive mentionedJul 16 23:07
abeNd-orgif they did, & companies thought it usable, they would have bought itJul 16 23:08
abeNd-orgor, dared to go the self support route if there was no company behind the opensource versionJul 16 23:08
abeNd-org& sometimes even with opensource versions that work just fine there is no business buy inJul 16 23:09
abeNd-orgi deployed dotproject, ldap enabled it for logins, etc as an alternative to buying msproject/project server for all the managersJul 16 23:09
abeNd-orgthey tried it for a few days, said no, & submitted the PO for msprojectJul 16 23:09
abeNd-orgsame with openfire/spark, great IM server, but doesnt hold a candle optionwise to things like GroupwiseIM, lotus sametime, or microsoft lyncJul 16 23:13
abeNd-orgive done plenty of ldap enabled openfire servers against AD & eDirectory, worked great, but users wanted more options than it could provideJul 16 23:14
MinceRyeah, AD was so great when it forgot my passwordJul 16 23:15
MinceRso was exchange when it delivered my mail into the trash for a week, and then deleted themJul 16 23:15
MinceRcompanies will go with microsoft if they don't mind losing their dataJul 16 23:15
MinceRit's their problemJul 16 23:15
abeNd-orgi havent seen ad or edir forget a users password, seen plenty of pebkac issues along those lines though :PJul 16 23:16
abeNd-orgbut ive seen every mail system hose up, google apps (not talking gmail), exchange, lotus notes, groupwise (be it on windows, linux, or netware)Jul 16 23:17
MinceRmust have been pebkac that a password stored in various places suddenly wasn't considered correctJul 16 23:17
MinceRmust be a lot simpler explanation than a single point of failure, right?Jul 16 23:17
abeNd-orgim not sure what was hosed up in that particular AD enviroment, not saying it couldnt have done it, im just saying i havent seen it in the many networks ive worked withJul 16 23:18
MinceRalso, i'm sure all companies can afford the loss of productivity that randomly losing focus and randomly rebooting causesJul 16 23:18
MinceRand the retraining for each new winblows and office version must be without cost as wellJul 16 23:18
abeNd-orgthat said i am sure openldap isnt perfect eitherJul 16 23:18
MinceRso you don't know but you knock it because it isn't microsoftJul 16 23:19
abeNd-orgoh man, openoffice/libreoffice, i have tried & tried to get buy in with that, even on windowsJul 16 23:19
abeNd-orgbut when they try to open a simple word doc & formatting is all hosed up, they give up on itJul 16 23:19
MinceRso they've locked their documents into a broken proprietary formatJul 16 23:20
MinceRand it's OO/LO's faultJul 16 23:20
abeNd-orgor features, say excel's pivot table https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Migration_Guide/Calc_and_Excel - even the wiki says OO is limited in it's ability compared to excelJul 16 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.openoffice.org | Differences in Use between Calc and Excel - Apache OpenOffice Wiki [ http://ur1.ca/hrhot ]Jul 16 23:23
abeNd-orgso if the user needs the option & the GNU/Linux software doesnt provide it, they arent going to use itJul 16 23:24
abeNd-orgin the end, it is the end user/manager that writes the check, so what they say goes, & if they want a windows version, then that is what they getJul 16 23:28
abeNd-orgi do my best to educate them on the alternatives if there are anyJul 16 23:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged Android tablet boasts all-day batteryJul 16 23:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged Android tablet boasts all-day battery | Tux MachinesJul 16 23:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ARM MPD Still Not Doing Open Drivers; ARMJul 16 23:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Vendors Hiding Behind LinaroJul 16 23:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SparkyLinux 3.4.1 http://t.co/SmrCjUloylJul 16 23:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 3.4.1 | Tux MachinesJul 16 23:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Developers Can Get The First MDK (ModuleJul 16 23:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Development Kit) Of Google’s Project ARA InJul 16 23:38
TweetTuxMachines                 July http://t.co/qQZKGfwEFZJul 16 23:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Developers Can Get The First MDK (Module Development Kit) Of Google’s Project ARA In July | Tux MachinesJul 16 23:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Delivers Enterprise-Grade Ceph StorageJul 16 23:38
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schestowitz[16:46] <TweetSchestowitz> @wikileaks       UK surveillance operation agaisnt #Assange hitsJul 17 01:38
schestowitz[16:46] <TweetSchestowitz>                 £6,814,823.82 http://t.co/8b8PyjMqXSJul 17 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-govwaste.co.uk | UK Gov't Waste ExploredJul 17 01:38
schestowitz[16:46] <TweetSchestowitz>                 (govwaste.co.uk) #svpol #sweden More:Jul 17 01:38
schestowitz[16:46] <TweetSchestowitz>                 http://t.co/0Sqa2fneHf (freeassangenow.org)Jul 17 01:38
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schestowitzhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hqG_rNQfQIQ/U8VhFbhBYNI/AAAAAAACDXo/qgykkowAmXU/s1600/944408_10151711300187518_434443310_n.jpgJul 17 01:47
schestowitzWith the ability to manipulate polls, Western spooks have a strong toolbox which includes manipulating opinions on an oppressor or occupier in foreign nationsJul 17 01:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cheery social robot owes it all to its innerJul 17 08:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux http://t.co/xUN62XmMYFJul 17 08:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cheery social robot owes it all to its inner Linux | Tux MachinesJul 17 08:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     No Chaos KaOS, LibreSSL Fixed, and More KDE 5Jul 17 11:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OFE: 'Continued discrimination in ITJul 17 11:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LibreOffice-from-Collabora 4.2 released to theJul 17 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 channel http://t.co/gUaCac1Xs5Jul 17 13:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GhostBSD 4.0 BETA 3 now availableJul 17 13:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Distribution Basics: Rolling Releases vs.Jul 17 13:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Standard Releases http://t.co/6LUaTvgLDiJul 17 13:37
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schestowitz> http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/07/17/microsoft-job-cuts/12772901/Jul 17 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | Microsoft to cut up to 18,000 jobs over next year [ http://ur1.ca/hrnl7 ]Jul 17 18:49
schestowitz> Jul 17 18:49
schestowitz> What to you want to bet that the severance packages containJul 17 18:49
schestowitz> non-disparagement / non-compete clauses of some kind?  They will spreadJul 17 18:49
schestowitz> like a cloud of toxins to new employers.  And how many temps /Jul 17 18:49
schestowitz> permatemps are going, too?Jul 17 18:49
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DaemonFCThey named the infirmary at the Miami County Correctional Facility after my aunt.Jul 17 18:58
DaemonFCThe dedication ceremony was today.Jul 17 18:58
schestowitz> http://www.infoworld.com/t/open-source-software/were-living-in-post-open-source-world-246448Jul 17 19:10
schestowitz> Jul 17 19:10
schestowitz> trolling for Black DuckJul 17 19:10
schestowitzUnfortunately, the problem is this case is what Red Hat called "Asayroll" (troll) and I call Mac Asay. He used to be a fan of the GPL but then turned against it. Black Duck is just one among several data points he uses. I think the other one is (at least was) partly Microsoft-funded.Jul 17 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com | We're living in a post-open source world | Open source software - InfoWorldJul 17 19:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4415469Jul 17 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #cbs #cnet has removed (censored I assume) a classic article about company that ditched Microsoft. Follow links: http://mrpogson.com/2013/02/14/50-years-old-and-12-years-free-of-m-ernie-ball/Jul 17 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mrpogson.com | 50 Years Old And 12 Years Free Of M$: Ernie Ball | Robert Pogson [ http://ur1.ca/ctlnb ]Jul 17 19:25
schestowitz"The BSA was one of the biggest reasons I left Windows. It's stupid to prosecute sysadmins since we usually cannot decide what software to use, and refusing to install pirated software is an invitation to be fired. That's why I left the Windows license management and BSA problems to Windows lovers long time ago. And fuck #Microsoft."Jul 17 19:25
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4417879Jul 17 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Reporting about #nsa has helped The Guardian http://adage.com/article/media/mec-exec-eamonn-store-named-ceo-guardian-u-s/294120/ there is still a market for facts, too, not propagandaJul 17 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> adage.com | MEC Exec Eamonn Store Named CEO of Guardian U.S. | Media - Advertising Age [ http://ur1.ca/hrnvh ]Jul 17 19:29
DaemonFCGNOME Web 3.12.1 beat Firefox 30 on Peacekeeper. Web scored 2644 and Firefox 30 scored 2512.Jul 17 19:29
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4417645Jul 17 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The World's Next Major Trade Agreement Will Make #NSA Spying Even Easier http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-trans-pacific-partnership-will-make-nsa-spying-easier all about serving those in powerJul 17 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> motherboard.vice.com | The World's Next Major Trade Agreement Will Make NSA Spying Even Easier | Motherboard [ http://ur1.ca/hrnw5 ]Jul 17 19:30
DaemonFChttp://askubuntu.com/questions/470040/how-to-customize-or-debug-ad-blocking-on-gnome-web-epiphany-browserJul 17 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-askubuntu.com | How to customize or debug ad-blocking on gnome-web (epiphany-browser)? - Ask Ubuntu [ http://ur1.ca/hro3n ]Jul 17 19:43
DaemonFCI just edited it to have it subscribe to Easylist+EasyPrivacy and Fanboy's Annoyances.Jul 17 19:49
DaemonFCThat seems to have gotten everything that Easylist missed by itself.Jul 17 19:49
DaemonFCand adblock warning removal list too. B-)Jul 17 19:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Creator Linus Torvalds is Your Guide inJul 17 20:03
TweetTuxMachines                 This Rare Look Inside His Home OfficeJul 17 20:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Creator Linus Torvalds is Your Guide in This Rare Look Inside His Home Office | Tux MachinesJul 17 20:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox OS Ecosystem Shows Strong Momentum andJul 17 20:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Expands Across New Devices, Markets andJul 17 20:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Categories http://t.co/1iA59tNXyUJul 17 20:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox OS Ecosystem Shows Strong Momentum and Expands Across New Devices, Markets and Categories | Tux MachinesJul 17 20:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://t.co/5vV90nvSzx (www.x.org) Server 1.16Jul 17 20:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Officially Released With Terrific FeaturesJul 17 20:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | X.Org Server 1.16 Officially Released With Terrific Features | Tux MachinesJul 17 20:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The state of accessibility in Linux and openJul 17 20:05
TweetTuxMachines                 source software http://t.co/JHITrKd5oPJul 17 20:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The state of accessibility in Linux and open source software | Tux MachinesJul 17 20:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenMW 0.31 Has A Ton Of ChangesJul 17 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMW 0.31 Has A Ton Of Changes | Tux MachinesJul 17 20:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Evolution 3.12.4 Now Supports Google TasksJul 17 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Evolution 3.12.4 Now Supports Google Tasks | Tux MachinesJul 17 20:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     UBUNTU 13.10 SAUCY SALAMANDER END OF LIFE: JULYJul 17 20:47
TweetTuxMachines                 17, 2014 http://t.co/fGa8WRAcv2Jul 17 20:47
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc0MzUJul 17 22:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Fedora 21 Starts Working Towards Its Alpha Release [ http://ur1.ca/hrq2h ]Jul 17 22:05
DaemonFCI've pulled in the latest GNOME 3.12 packages.Jul 17 22:05
DaemonFCI did up a sort of Classic Desktop and it seems to work fine.Jul 17 22:05
DaemonFCTheir official Classic Session has a "blah" color scheme to it, so I just installed the extensions into the regular session.Jul 17 22:06
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4420640Jul 17 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jimmy Carter: “The Rest of the World, Almost Unanimously, Looks at America as the Number 1 Warmonger” http://www.globalresearch.ca/breakdown-in-diplomacy-at-the-un-security-council-who-is-behind-the-most-terrible-crimes-in-the-history-of-humanity-syria-or-the-us/5391402Jul 17 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalresearch.ca | Breakdown in Diplomacy at the UN Security Council. Who is Behind “The Most Terrible Crimes in the History of Humanity”, Syria or the US? | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/hrqat ]Jul 17 22:40
schestowitz"Which they are , aren't they?"Jul 17 22:40
schestowitz"I'm not seeing any counter arguments here. And I am offering none."Jul 17 22:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4420354Jul 17 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: CIA drones kill at least 13 in Pakistan: the bloodiest strike for more than a year http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2014/07/16/cia-drones-kill-at-least-13-in-pakistan-the-bloodiest-strike-for-more-than-a-year/ suspected adultsJul 17 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thebureauinvestigates.com | CIA drones kill at least 13 in Pakistan: the bloodiest strike for more than a year | The Bureau of Investigative Journalism [ http://ur1.ca/hrqaz ]Jul 17 22:40
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schestowitzThe "Lion of the Punjab"Jul 17 22:40
schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MianNawazSharif#United_StatesJul 17 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MianNawazSharif#United_States )Jul 17 22:40
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DaemonFCSo, I've been using GNOME Web for a couple of days now....Jul 18 00:17
DaemonFCIt's actually pretty nice. It's fast, stable, and reasonably easy to use.Jul 18 00:17
DaemonFCI don't know why they renamed it "Web".Jul 18 00:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Final Version of FreeBSD 9.3 Arrives withJul 18 00:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Improved ZFS Filesystem http://t.co/uvfrxVhGNDJul 18 00:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Final Version of FreeBSD 9.3 Arrives with Improved ZFS Filesystem | Tux MachinesJul 18 00:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 21 Starts Working Towards Its AlphaJul 18 00:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Release http://t.co/19J6KCyz4yJul 18 00:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenWRT adds IPv6, preps for IoT futureJul 18 07:24
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489920069904769024Jul 18 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenWRT adds IPv6, preps for IoT future | Tux MachinesJul 18 07:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Calibre 1.45 eBook Reader and Editor BringsJul 18 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Improvements for Kindle BooksJul 18 08:55
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hru5rJul 18 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Calibre 1.45 eBook Reader and Editor Brings Improvements for Kindle Books | Tux MachinesJul 18 08:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Fitness Apps for Google Chrome and ChromeJul 18 08:55
TweetTuxMachines                 OS http://t.co/30RVtYw1Gh (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 08:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hru61Jul 18 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Fitness Apps for Google Chrome and Chrome OS | Tux MachinesJul 18 08:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 21 Alpha, Project Mayhem, and Linus'Jul 18 09:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Office http://t.co/zeLOgJCmFbJul 18 09:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 21 Alpha, Project Mayhem, and Linus' Office | Tux MachinesJul 18 09:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Snowden on Dropbox: It’s hostile to privacyJul 18 09:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Snowden on Dropbox: It’s hostile to privacy | Tux MachinesJul 18 09:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     RadeonSI Gallium3D Now Supports GL4 IndirectJul 18 09:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Drawing Too http://t.co/f5cSwzr6dxJul 18 09:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RadeonSI Gallium3D Now Supports GL4 Indirect Drawing Too | Tux MachinesJul 18 09:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chromebook – What it is and what it isn’t.Jul 18 09:20
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pirQVb6KBC (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 09:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chromebook – What it is and what it isn’t. | Tux MachinesJul 18 09:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Slackware Turns 21 Years OldJul 18 09:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/sOOAaUVt67 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 09:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hruv1Jul 18 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slackware Turns 21 Years Old | Tux MachinesJul 18 09:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox OS lands in Germany – with France,Jul 18 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Asia, and more to come http://t.co/TmySe9Ql7wJul 18 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 09:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hruv5Jul 18 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox OS lands in Germany – with France, Asia, and more to come | Tux MachinesJul 18 09:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Robolinux 7.5.5 Brings the Fully EncryptedJul 18 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Cloud Service Spider Oak for Free to Its UsersJul 18 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GZyg6X8Onb (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 09:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Robolinux 7.5.5 Brings the Fully Encrypted Cloud Service Spider Oak for Free to Its Users | Tux MachinesJul 18 09:36
MinceRgeekingsJul 18 09:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux System Administration Skills are ChangingJul 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pMDDFlyidC (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrvbyJul 18 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux System Administration Skills are Changing | Tux MachinesJul 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A juggernaut like the NHS won’t find it easy toJul 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 drop Windows for open source - but it shouldJul 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5ZoCqDYN70 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrvc5Jul 18 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A juggernaut like the NHS won’t find it easy to drop Windows for open source - but it should | Tux MachinesJul 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PredictionIO’s $2.5M money bag suggestsJul 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 open-source is right for machine learningJul 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Wd1SNDA3ka (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 11:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrvc6Jul 18 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PredictionIO’s $2.5M money bag suggests open-source is right for machine learning | Tux MachinesJul 18 11:10
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/staff/2014/07/op-ed-microsoft-layoff-e-mail-typifies-inhuman-corporate-insensitivity/Jul 18 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Op-Ed: Microsoft layoff e-mail typifies inhuman corporate insensitivity | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/hrvdl ]Jul 18 11:17
Sosumithis why you should always aim to be the employer and never the employeJul 18 11:18
Sosumiand ofc, try to be better than that in case you’re actually the employerJul 18 11:18
Sosumibecause you might end up with egg in the face, specially if the employ decides to take on your IT infastrocture down the road once things have settled downJul 18 11:19
Sosumilet’s hope someone set it on fireJul 18 11:20
Sosumijust like on “office space” movieJul 18 11:20
Sosumihttp://images.tzaam.com/full/10k.jpgJul 18 11:32
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DaemonFCWell, Polari still needs a lot of work.Jul 18 12:37
DaemonFChttps://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/PolariJul 18 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.gnome.org | Apps/Polari - GNOME Wiki!Jul 18 12:37
DaemonFCI tried the latest version, which is apparently easy to use, and I was dumbfounded and spent about 20 minutes yesterday just trying to get onto Freenode and into a chat room.Jul 18 12:38
DaemonFCOnce I managed to do that, it insisted on opening up dialog tabs for Chanserv and Nickserv messages, when every other client I've seen that lasted more than 5 minutes on my computer just routed them into the main server tab and maybe the tab for the room I was looking at at the moment.Jul 18 12:39
DaemonFCWhen I tried closing the Chanserv and Nickserv tabs, it kept reopening them and alerting me to the last message again, opening a notification through GNOME's notification system.Jul 18 12:40
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DaemonFCIt also has two independent network configuration applets. One of its own, and one that seems to work through the GNOME Accounts applet.Jul 18 12:41
DaemonFCIt's a shame, because it could be a good program if it just worked a little bit differently, but there are no preferences to set. Jul 18 12:41
DaemonFCAnd the built-in configuration applet should die and bring up the global one.Jul 18 12:42
*DaemonFC is always interested in trying out new software.Jul 18 12:42
DaemonFCI really like what they did with the rest of GNOME 3.12, but Linus Torvalds was right that some of the extensions should be there by default, and the Tweak Tool should be integrated into the Control Panel.Jul 18 12:43
DaemonFCWhat we have going on with the Tweak Tool is like that old Devil's Pie applet. GNOME keeps insisting that their way is better and we do not need customization or advanced preferences, and then they end up making it frustrating by default, but fixable with all this stuff that you apparently should just know exists.Jul 18 12:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 0.8.10 Netbook Edition is nowJul 18 14:20
TweetTuxMachines                 available! http://t.co/hev1sNbvMoJul 18 14:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 14:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrwcwJul 18 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 0.8.10 Netbook Edition is now available! | Tux MachinesJul 18 14:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kerala Legislature announces smooth transitionJul 18 14:21
TweetTuxMachines                 to free software http://t.co/MZzi8vE3WAJul 18 14:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 14:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrwcyJul 18 14:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kerala Legislature announces smooth transition to free software | Tux MachinesJul 18 14:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Avoid the Android vampire appsJul 18 14:21
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/490123825346920449Jul 18 14:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Avoid the Android vampire apps | Tux MachinesJul 18 14:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 4.2 Beta 1 Is Now Based on XBMCJul 18 14:21
TweetTuxMachines                 “Gotham” 13.2 Beta 1 and Linux Kernel 3.15Jul 18 14:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gCoXoXiwIc (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 14:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenELEC 4.2 Beta 1 Is Now Based on XBMC “Gotham” 13.2 Beta 1 and Linux Kernel 3.15 | Tux MachinesJul 18 14:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/cyi1S4tn0gJul 18 14:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 18 14:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/L92vg1GMpbJul 18 14:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 18 14:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/lAGV6XedBcJul 18 14:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJul 18 14:27
DaemonFChttps://ikt.id.au/2011/03/28/why-i-avoid-adobe.htmlJul 18 14:46
DaemonFCLOLJul 18 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ikt.id.au | Why I avoid Adobe. [ http://ur1.ca/hrwi6 ]Jul 18 14:46
MinceRto be fair, their winblows support also sucksJul 18 14:47
MinceRi've seen more powerful laptops than mine running it on winblows and struggling with smooth fullscreen video playbackJul 18 14:47
MinceRhttp://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/debian/2010-08-28-windows-applications-making-grub2-unbootable.htmlJul 18 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chiark.greenend.org.uk | Colin Watson [ http://ur1.ca/1cov4 ]Jul 18 14:53
DaemonFChttp://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/07/18/3461625/aids-experts-malaysian-plane/Jul 18 15:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org | The Malaysian Plane Crash May Be A Major Blow To AIDS Research | ThinkProgressJul 18 15:11
DaemonFCAny bets on when the "because God" crowd makes an appearance?Jul 18 15:14
MinceRlolJul 18 15:17
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 18 15:22
DaemonFCI've seen users who bought a Mac Pro to run Linux on[1], because trying to use OS X as UNIX is a real non-starter.Jul 18 15:22
DaemonFCOne of them that I speak to regularly on IRC[2][3] just built a nice PC this time, because he didn't like the Trash Can Pro.Jul 18 15:22
DaemonFC[1] (Red Hat has enough paying customers in this configuration to officially support it. I feel sorry for whoever has to deal with the Mac issues)Jul 18 15:22
DaemonFC[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_ChatJul 18 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Internet Relay Chat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/hrwp9 ]Jul 18 15:22
DaemonFC[3] http://hexchat.github.io/Jul 18 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hexchat.github.io | Home – HexChatJul 18 15:22
DaemonFC(from an Amazon post of mine)Jul 18 15:22
DaemonFCMinceR, I fear that the day is coming soon where I'm going to buy a new computer.Jul 18 15:23
DaemonFCIf nothing else, because I can't put any more RAM into this one.Jul 18 15:24
DaemonFCSo, I can either upgrade my computer or downgrade my software.Jul 18 15:24
DaemonFCEven downgrading my desktop environment to one of those little ones that drives me nuts will only buy time.Jul 18 15:24
DaemonFCThe web is getting so bloated that some of my tabs are using 250 MB of RAM (Facebook!) or something close to that.Jul 18 15:25
DaemonFCOne....fucking....tab. 250 MB of RAM. Fuck Fuck Fuck.Jul 18 15:25
DaemonFCIs this shit getting ridiculous yet>Jul 18 15:25
DaemonFCI remember when I had 256 MB of RAM in the whole computer and I though "Wow! What a badass system. Nothing I do will overrun 256 MB of RAM!".Jul 18 15:26
MinceRit's ridiculousJul 18 15:26
DaemonFCNow, it's ONE Facebook tab.Jul 18 15:26
MinceRbut don't use dumbFuckBookJul 18 15:26
MinceR:>Jul 18 15:26
DaemonFCIt's not just them.Jul 18 15:27
MinceRi'm considering a move to lightweight browsers for much of my browsingJul 18 15:27
DaemonFCI've seen a tab with a simple web forum page loaded that was up over 180.Jul 18 15:27
MinceR(Links2, Linkx, Dillo)Jul 18 15:27
DaemonFCYeah. "Modern" websites are obese.Jul 18 15:27
MinceRthe modern web "standards" are part of the problemJul 18 15:27
DaemonFCThey don't actually add anything to the experience.Jul 18 15:27
MinceRway too complexJul 18 15:27
MinceRconforming implementations can't help being extremely complex as a resultJul 18 15:28
MinceRthis isn't exactly good for security eitherJul 18 15:28
DaemonFCYeah. When Apple forked KHTML and KJS it came in at about 150,000 lines of source code.Jul 18 15:28
DaemonFCWebkit is almost to 6 million lines now, I believe.Jul 18 15:28
MinceRand it still keeps crashingJul 18 15:28
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFCCan you tell me anything that Apple has ever done to make computers better?Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFCWhen they forked KHTML and KJS around 2003, it was 140,000 lines of source code.[1]Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFCNow it's over 5,14 million.[2]Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFCOne browser tab that loaded Facebook in Safari will use about 250-300 MB of RAM. Your average Mac only has about 4 GB in the current offerings, but many have less than that. Tick, tock! Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFCBut, it's not like being able to upgrade your own RAM is important. *rolls eyes* Have fun destroying your Mac Mini or iMac in an attempt to do so, while you can, if Apple isn't soldering the modules in yet, like they do with the Macbook.[3] Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFC[1] http://lists.kde.org/?m=104197092318639Jul 18 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.kde.org | '(fwd) Greetings from the Safari team at Apple Computer' - MARCJul 18 15:37
DaemonFCSaid Apple, "...When we were evaluating technologies over a year Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFCago, KHTML and KJS stood out. Not only were they the basis of an Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFCexcellent modern and standards compliant web browser, they were also Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFCless than 140,000 lines of code. The size of your code and ease of Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFCdevelopment within that code made it a better choice for us than other Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFCopen source projects."Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFC[2] http://www.ohloh.net/p/WebKitJul 18 15:37
DaemonFC[3] http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/06/13/teardown_of_retina_display_macbook_pro_finds_soldered_ram_propreitary_ssdJul 18 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ohloh.net | The WebKit Open Source Project on OhlohJul 18 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-appleinsider.com | Teardown of Retina MacBook Pro finds soldered RAM, proprietary SSD [ http://ur1.ca/hrwsb ]Jul 18 15:37
DaemonFChttp://www.jwz.org/blog/2014/05/glasshole-sh/Jul 18 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: glasshole.sh [ http://ur1.ca/hrwth ]Jul 18 15:43
DaemonFCLOLJul 18 15:43
DaemonFC"Find and kick Google Glass devices from your local wireless network."Jul 18 15:43
MinceRfind and kick crApple devices from your local wireless network.Jul 18 15:53
DaemonFCI modded my post about the Macs.Jul 18 15:53
DaemonFC"This is why the 2014 Mac Mini is generally worse than the PC I built in 2009, which I am typing this on. Also, the hard drive in the current $600 Mac Mini is still slower, the processor is slower, and the graphics chipset in the Mac Mini is horrendously underpowered compared to my Nvidia card. This goes along with the "Macs are a ripoff, no matter the model." maxim. They're targeting PC users who want to buy a Mac without taking out a Jul 18 15:53
DaemonFCsecond mortgage, but they're giving them a comically weak system that isn't even close to worth the money."Jul 18 15:53
DaemonFC"I could buy a new Mac, but what's the point of getting something slower than the five year old technology that I still use every day without any trouble, thanks partially to the incredible efficiency of Linux?Jul 18 15:59
DaemonFCAt this rate, it's unclear if the Mac Mini's hardware will beat my 2009 PC before 2019 or so.Jul 18 15:59
DaemonFCThey should have called the Mac Mini "Time Machine" because it takes you ten years back in time."Jul 18 15:59
MinceRlolJul 18 15:59
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/linus-torvalds-messy-desk-videoJul 18 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Linus Torvalds' Workspace Is Nothing Like I Imagined (Video) | OMG! Ubuntu! [ http://ur1.ca/hrx4w ]Jul 18 16:31
DaemonFCMinceR, I edited my comment about Webkit.Jul 18 17:01
DaemonFC"That's 36.71 times bigger, for those who do not want to bust out the calculator. I don't think they made it 36.71 times more useful. In fact, with all this new garbage, comes more spam, security problems, ads, tracking garbage, and web page "artistes" that think that it's just ****ing dandy to have a page that takes 10 times as long to load. I'll tell you what I am 36.71 times more grateful for now than I was in 2003. Adblock, Privoxy, and Jul 18 17:01
DaemonFCNoScript."Jul 18 17:01
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Sosumiactually, the thing with safariJul 18 18:22
Sosumiis that it breaks itself into multiple processesJul 18 18:23
Sosumieach one managing to sometimes take up to 1gig of ramJul 18 18:23
Sosumidepending also on the plugins that are being calledJul 18 18:24
Sosumiif it is flash, then good luck :)Jul 18 18:24
Sosumiflash sucksJul 18 18:24
Sosumibut sucks even more on osxJul 18 18:24
abeNd-orgstill needed though for some enterprise apps/sites that havent moved to html5 yet, & then you still have the silverlight required garbage :(Jul 18 18:31
abeNd-orgim kinda surprised apple discontinued safari on windows though, just because of the #s of windows machinesJul 18 18:31
Sosumilol noJul 18 18:42
Sosumiapple discontinued safari on windows because they just couldn’t keep up with feauture parity on both OSsJul 18 18:43
Sosumiso instead of making two bad browsersJul 18 18:43
DaemonFC"I noticed that some sites seem to direct you to Flash unless they think you're using an iPad, so I have my browser set to lie to a few sites and say it's Safari on an iPad. Jul 18 18:43
DaemonFCI can't believe that Apple has us back in the 90s, spoofing our browsers to get sites to work again."Jul 18 18:43
Sosumithey opted for one less badJul 18 18:43
SosumiyeahJul 18 18:44
Sosumispoof the browser to get html5 instead of flashJul 18 18:44
Sosumiand let me tell youJul 18 18:46
Sosumi4GB of ram on macJul 18 18:46
Sosumieven if all you do is browse the web, email and casual home stuffJul 18 18:47
Sosumiit won’t be enoughJul 18 18:47
Sosumifor that sort of usage you need minimun 6 GBJul 18 18:47
DaemonFC"Oh, and those sites that I have to lie to and say my browser is Safari on an iPad before they give me my HTML 5 video, instead of trying to load Flash and failing.Jul 18 18:47
DaemonFCI usually send the website owner an obscene email regarding his maternal lineage."Jul 18 18:47
abeNd-orgat least some sites like youtube allow you to opt for html5 insteadJul 18 18:48
Sosumiit lets you optJul 18 18:49
Sosumibut if you’re using safari even on the macJul 18 18:49
Sosumiit uses html5 by fefaultJul 18 18:49
Sosumiif you don’t have flashJul 18 18:50
abeNd-orgyea, i wish i would do that on windows, say firefox without flash installed, so it doesnt bother you to install itJul 18 18:50
abeNd-orgbecause invariably some moron installs "flash player pro" when they google for flash & install tons of crapwareJul 18 18:50
abeNd-orgthen you have chrome & ie11 on win8x with flash includedJul 18 18:51
Sosumivista 8 comes with flash by defaultJul 18 18:51
SosumiI’m actually surprised M$ didn’t include it also on server 2012Jul 18 18:51
abeNd-orgwhat is vista 8? such a product doesnt existJul 18 18:51
abeNd-orgWindows 8x yes, it includes flash with ie11Jul 18 18:52
Sosumiwindows 8Jul 18 18:52
Sosumiis a derivate of vistaJul 18 18:52
abeNd-orgmeh, im past kiddie name calling like micro$oft & crappleJul 18 18:52
abeNd-orgno one takes you seriously like thatJul 18 18:52
Sosumiyada yadaJul 18 18:54
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*TweetTuxMachines @PredictionIO favourited 'PredictionIO’s $2.5M money bag suggests open-source is right...'Jul 18 19:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CRUX 3.1 Distro Is for Linux AficionadosJul 18 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ck5Bkv7K6a (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 18 19:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrz4nJul 18 19:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CRUX 3.1 Distro Is for Linux Aficionados | Tux MachinesJul 18 19:44
MinceRwho takes abeNd-org seriously?Jul 18 19:50
abeNd-orgnot my customers when i suggest opensource solutions for themJul 18 19:57
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Sosumiwindows is open sourceJul 18 20:23
Sosumihttp://www.microsoft.com/en-us/openness/default.aspx#homeJul 18 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/openness/default.aspx#home )Jul 18 20:26
Sosumiok, you can laugh nowJul 18 20:26
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Sosumialso, you don’t need to pay for m$ products in order to get supportJul 18 20:28
schestowitzhttp://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-07-17/how-russian-hackers-stole-the-nasdaq#p1Jul 18 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessweek.com | How Russian Hackers Stole the Nasdaq - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/hs01f ]Jul 18 20:29
schestowitzhttp://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/01/16/technical-paper-black-hole-2/Jul 18 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nakedsecurity.sophos.com | Technical paper: Deeper inside the Blackhole exploit kit | Naked Security [ http://ur1.ca/hs01l ]Jul 18 20:29
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2011/02/17/security-and-reliability-record/#comment-110478Jul 18 20:29
schestowitzhttp://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/01/16/technical-paper-black-hole-2/Jul 18 20:30
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Sosumiapparently abeNd-org doesn’t know that companies that rely on free software make money by selling supportJul 18 20:30
Sosumiand specialized hardwareJul 18 20:30
schestowitz"Jul 18 20:30
schestowitzMicrosoft mouthpiece uses an old Gnome2 screen and lack of details to vilify gnu/linux. Look at that screenshot! We are supposed to think the crackers used gnu/linux and that Nasdaq's gnu/linux servers were infested with "a mess of malware". An update has Nasdaq telling the Verge that there was no intrusion on the servers. If there was, details are important - Google got rid of Windows years ago because it was a weakness that allowed Jul 18 20:30
schestowitzcompromise of other systems. Thanks to Snowden, now we know that Windows was intentionally weak and full of NSA back doors that government, private firms and crackers alike regularly abused.Jul 18 20:30
schestowitzThe Bloomberg Businessweek [yes, that's a misleading name] article the Verge draws on is even worse. They cite problems Iran had with Microsoft software and Stuxnet without mentioning Windows to make people afraid of gnu/linux at Nasdaq. The Blackhole kit is mentioned to scare people but that too looks like the usual Windows exploiter that mostly uses "rogue" Apache modules. The "Director's Desk" intrusion is once again brought up, butJul 18 20:30
schestowitzpeople at Techrights showed that was a Windows problem and that Microsoft blame was intentionally covered up at the time. The Nasdaq details are supposedly dangerous secrets that must not be told.Jul 18 20:30
schestowitzThere is one thing of interest in the Bloomberg story, that a nebulous threat to stock exchanges is used as an excuse to spy on ordinary people,Jul 18 20:30
schestowitz    In a speech last January, amid the scandal over the NSA’s collection of data on millions of Americans, Obama obliquely referred to the NSA’s ability to “intercept malware that targets a stock exchange” as one reason he opposed stripping the agency of its ability to intercept digital communications.Jul 18 20:30
schestowitzBack in 2010, most people would have said that a conspiracy by US military spies to weaken software was the purest of paranoid delusions. Yet it was so and now we see them using the results to gain even more power. Of course, none of these bad actors want people or businesses escaping to free software. They want "admins" to keep using Microsoft malware on their desktops and that compromises everything.Jul 18 20:30
schestowitz"Jul 18 20:30
schestowitzSosumi: LOL, FOSSdowsJul 18 20:31
Sosumisumming it all upJul 18 20:33
Sosumiwindows is crap and costs moneyJul 18 20:33
abeNd-orgsosumi support companies do, but your average CPA firm doesnt do that sort of thingJul 18 20:35
abeNd-orgagain, if there is no opensource alternative, there is no way for a company to take advantage of it. said company is not going to go through the expense of developing it inhouse when there is a windows version. especially when it comes to tax laws, there is no way an individual CPA firm can keep up with all the changes, but companies with products like lacerte & prosystems doJul 18 20:36
Sosumiat least give examplesJul 18 20:37
Sosumiof that said windows software with no alternativesJul 18 20:37
Sosumiif it CAD/CAM softwareJul 18 20:37
Sosumi*isJul 18 20:38
Sosumithen I understandJul 18 20:38
Sosumiother than siemens NX which I personally useJul 18 20:38
Sosumithere isn’t much out thereJul 18 20:39
abeNd-orgthe slew of financial & tax software from http://www.cchgroup.com/Jul 18 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cchgroup.com | Tax & Accounting Software | Firms & Corporations | Wolters KluwerJul 18 20:39
abeNd-orgor Lacerte http://accountants.intuit.com/tax/lacerte/Jul 18 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-accountants.intuit.com | Discover Lacerte Tax Software for Professionals at Intuit Accountants [ http://ur1.ca/gkkct ]Jul 18 20:39
abeNd-orgchurch management systems like http://www.shelbysystems.com/Jul 18 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.shelbysystems.com | Church Management Software | Shelby Systems - Shelby Systems : Church Management SoftwareJul 18 20:41
abeNd-orgSIP2 compatible library patron management systems like www.librarica.com  (that work with SIP2 backends like evergreen which does have linux server/client components)Jul 18 20:41
abeNd-orgive got piles of other windows only client/server type products my customers use. sure some use linux for the simple things like file/print/dns/dhcp, but when it comes to the LoB app, more often than not there isnt even a linux version of it, & no the client nor server side would be supported by the vendor if you ran it in wineJul 18 20:44
MinceRi can imagine how great those products can be if their authors thought it would be a good idea to run windows on a serverJul 18 20:48
abeNd-orgshow me a business viable alternative.....Jul 18 20:49
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4423812Jul 18 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Black box has not been recovered yet (why is it taking so long?), but Russian and Western media already "know" who to blame. Agenda at play.Jul 18 22:11
schestowitz"Jul 18 22:11
schestowitzSo let me get this straight.Jul 18 22:11
schestowitzYou're walking down the street and you see a gunfight. If you continue down your path, you will be caught in the crossfire.Jul 18 22:11
schestowitzBut you do it anyway because a cop told you to?Jul 18 22:11
schestowitzBullshit.Jul 18 22:11
schestowitz"Jul 18 22:11
abeNd-orgoh im sure black box was recovered & disposed of alreadyJul 18 22:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 3D full-body scanner interviewJul 18 22:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 Excellent Lightweight Linux Distros for x86Jul 18 22:25
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abeNd-orghttp://www.datamation.com/osrc/article.php/12068_3893871_2/50-Open-Source-Replacements-for-Popular-Financial-Software.htm none of this looks like it could handle what prosystemfx doesJul 18 22:56
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/07/citing-lack-of-interest-lenovo-pulls-8-inch-windows-tablets-from-the-us/Jul 19 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Citing lack of interest, Lenovo pulls 8-inch Windows tablets from the US | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/hs2ti ]Jul 19 01:03
DaemonFC"Microsoft's trouble in the small tablet market comes despite the fact that it's offering Windows for free on screens smaller than nine inches and the fact that Intel is selling many of its Bay Trail tablet chips at a loss to get the hardware into tablets in the first place."Jul 19 01:07
DaemonFChttp://blogs.computerworld.com/windows-phone/24112/gartner-says-windows-phone-hit-10-market-share-2018-what-universeJul 19 01:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.computerworld.com | Gartner says Windows Phone to hit 10% market share in 2018. In what universe is that? | Computerworld Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/hs2w3 ]Jul 19 01:19
DaemonFChttp://www.thestreet.com/story/12763746/1/microsoft-is-losing-market-share-it-cant-afford-to-lose.htmlJul 19 01:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thestreet.com | Microsoft Is Losing Market Share It Can't Afford To Lose - TheStreet [ http://ur1.ca/hs2wt ]Jul 19 01:21
DaemonFCWindows PC sales are still collapsing even though the death of XP has caused a "dead cat bounce" in sales.Jul 19 01:24
DaemonFCSome Microsoft-sponsored journalists are rushing to label the dead cat bounce as a "revival", even though the only thing that could even be considered a PC with major growth was the Chromebooks, which have increased their year over year sales by 250%.Jul 19 01:24
DaemonFCWindows Phone market share fell from 4.7% to 3.8% over the last year. A 20% decline. This came right after Microsoft fired all of the people from Nokia that were working on the Android-based phones. So much for giving people what they want.Jul 19 01:24
DaemonFCWhen will Microsoft learn that they can't throw their weight around in a market where they don't have any?Jul 19 01:24
DaemonFChttp://blogs.computerworld.com/windows-phone/24112/gartner-says-windows-phone-hit-10-market-share-2018-what-universeJul 19 01:26
DaemonFC"when you actually look at Gartner's numbers, no such revival can be found. In fact, Gartner projects that sales of traditional PCs (desktops and notebooks) will decline from 296 million in 2013 to 276 million in 2014, and then to under 262 million in 2015. How can a decline of 6.7% in 2014, and 5.3% in 2015 possibly be called a revival?"Jul 19 01:26
DaemonFChttp://bgr.com/2014/07/01/windows-phone-market-share-3/Jul 19 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Windows Phone market share: Crash and burn | BGR [ http://ur1.ca/hs2zs ]Jul 19 01:28
DaemonFC"The latest Kantar Worldpanel numbers for smartphone market share may not be surprising, but they are grim indeed for Microsoft. In the heart of the Windows empire in the United States, Windows Phone’s market share dropped from 4.7% to 3.6% between May 2013 and May 2014. In Germany, the decline was from 6.2% to 5.9%. In Brazil, the share remained flat at 5.5%. In China, Windows Phone saw a collapse from 3% to o.6%.Jul 19 01:28
DaemonFCThis may seem like just another spring, a season among others. But look closer — we are in fact witnessing the final hope for any meaningful future for Windows Phone being snuffed out."Jul 19 01:28
DaemonFChttp://wallstcheatsheet.com/technology/windows-8-1-may-not-be-the-answer-for-microsoft.html/?a=viewallJul 19 01:32
DaemonFC"Many technology analysts have ripped Windows 8 as the lynchpin behind the historical collapse in personal computer sales and ultimate resignation of Steve Ballmer from his Microsoft CEO post. Detractors further derided Windows 8 as a misguided attempt to be all things to all people that actually ended up pleasing nobody. The Windows 8 interface was also somewhat infamous for jumbled tiles, awkward touch screen commands, and the lack of the Jul 19 01:32
DaemonFCclassic Start Menu."Jul 19 01:32
DaemonFC"Successive reports out of research firm Gartner may confirm the idea the Microsoft lords over a shrinking PC empire. Gartner reported PC shipment tallies of 76.6 million units through the first calendar quarter of 2014. These results represented a 1.7 percent year-over-year decline between Q1 2013 and Q1 2014. Mikako Kitagawa, Gartner principal analyst, actually highlighted the end of XP support as easing the severity of the secular Jul 19 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wallstcheatsheet.com | Windows 8.1 May Not Be the Answer for Microsoft [ http://ur1.ca/hs30h ]Jul 19 01:32
DaemonFCdecline in global PC shipments. The PC market has steadily deteriorated for eight straight quarters and has come off a 2013 that Gartner described as the "worst decline in history." The failure of Windows 8.1 to reinvigorate the PC market will obviously pose important ramifications for the long-term fortunes of Microsoft investors. Microsoft share prices have literally stalled out as dead money since 1999."Jul 19 01:32
DaemonFCSomeone on Amazon wrote that they screwed up their iPhone.Jul 19 02:17
DaemonFCI replied...Jul 19 02:17
DaemonFC"Why would you even need to jailbreak a phone?Jul 19 02:17
DaemonFCAndroid lets you choose what software to run.Jul 19 02:17
DaemonFCWhy risk screwing up an iPhone to make it useful? I don't get the long term gain here.Jul 19 02:17
DaemonFCLeave the iPhone where it belongs next time. On the shelf.Jul 19 02:17
DaemonFCI know better than to allow some company to control my computer like that. If Google removes an app from the Play Store, I'll just get it somewhere else. With Apple, there's nowhere else to go.Jul 19 02:17
DaemonFCIt doesn't take a genius to figure out that Apple doesn't necessarily have your best interests in mind in their app store censorship decisions.Jul 19 02:17
DaemonFCAnd they do censor apps for all kinds of reasons."Jul 19 02:18
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DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 19 02:54
DaemonFChttp://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/07/18/3-ios-7-cydia-tweaks-to-improve-siri/Jul 19 02:54
DaemonFCApparently, they even let you dig in there and twiddle Siri's bits.Jul 19 02:54
DaemonFCMaybe they can stop her from saying "I'm sorry. I didn't understand that!" so often.Jul 19 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | 3 iOS 7 Cydia Tweaks to Improve Siri [ http://ur1.ca/hs3cx ]Jul 19 02:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4420493Jul 19 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Malaysia Airlines: We've lost contact with plane" http://us.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/ why is it assumed to have been shot down without evidence (yet)?Jul 19 04:25
schestowitz"And what a wonder , the bastard who boasted around the internet about bringing downthe plane , was a serbian volunteer Iin bosnia . Fuckers ."Jul 19 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> us.cnn.com | U.S. official: Missile hit Malaysia Airlines plane - CNN.comJul 19 04:25
schestowitz"Cronos , the missile that brought the plane down has video guidance , so the operator can actually see the plane as the missile gets to it . Strelkov , of whom I wrote in the lsst post , boosted they shot down the plane . Now , any trained soldier would know the difference between army aircraft and a civil airliner , but if you give dangerous weapons to fuckin mercenaries whi don't give a fuck about people's lives and can't tell the Jul 19 04:27
schestowitzdifference between army and civilian targets , this is what you get . But what pisses me the most is that we have literate , smart people who can think for themselves , taking part of a fascist , evil russian empire , just because fuckin obama suports ukrainian cause . All empires are evil , be it british , amerikan or russian . Putin is a danger to the whole world , a fanatic raised in soviet union willing to destroy destinies of Jul 19 04:27
schestowitzmilions just to see the russian empire all the way to finland . Soviets were no better than the nazis , just ask anyone in poland about the masacres they did there just about the s ame time hitler did .And now this crazy war-mongering putin decided he will rize that evil rusian empire again , and you are all concerned about russian minority in doneck . You call those bandits from russia who are raping ukraine 'rebels' . Not a single Jul 19 04:27
schestowitzvoice about ukrainians in ukraine , nobody bothers to ask what happens when brave 'rebels' take ukraininan villages . Well , I can tell you from my own expirience what happens with villages that strelkov (donbas republic minister of defence) and his camarades take ; they burn , they raoe , they kill . Seen his work in bosnia , and it's ugly . Serbs even have a movie about these 'rebels' , it's called "pretty villages burn pretty" . Jul 19 04:27
schestowitzStop supporting imperialistic motherfuckers , or one of these days , you'll wake up with the sound of their guns at your doorstep ."Jul 19 04:27
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:27
schestowitzOK, according with this article the rebels might have downed that plane. Did they downed a civilian airliner on purpose? The article does not say that, it seems they believed they hit a military airplane.Jul 19 04:27
schestowitzWhat is the alternative? Let Kiev bomb them until all die? Why is Kiev using air strikes on civilian places? Do you think Kiev believes their air strikes kill only rebels? Why Kiev first sent bombers and then allowed air traffic over East Ukraine?Jul 19 04:27
schestowitzIt's not like separatists were advancing towards Kiev, was Kiev the one that decided shelling and bombing East Ukraine would be a good way to liberate those poor people. Putin never accepted those provinces to join Russia.Jul 19 04:28
schestowitzAlso, the separatists have been allowing OSCE observers in their territories, do you think that if they were committing atrocities the OSCE would not notice or say something?Jul 19 04:28
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:28
schestowitz"We had osce in vukovar , go google how much it helped . Strelkov's buddies killed 500 people from the hospital . Those same people proudly fight in donbas now , cetniks . Strelkov boosts with them . Bosniaks had osce and un armed forces in srebrenica , yet 8,9 thousand were slaugtered . Mayve you should stop listening to russia today and marxsist sites , and inform yourself how donbas leaders speak of russian empire they are building Jul 19 04:28
schestowitz'Jul 19 04:28
schestowitz"I'll search information about what you say, you might be right and hearing all the parties is the right thing to do."Jul 19 04:28
schestowitz"I know you're nordic , only I didn't figure out which of the countries . But consider that putin's "greater russia" includes finland . Think twice how would having a war with russia in your neighbourghood affect you . Putin will not stop ; chechenia , georgia , now ukraine . If he suceedes , finland might be next . And then what ? Russians are as dangerous as amerika , only more brutal . And if the rest of the world supports marxist Jul 19 04:29
schestowitzidea of greater nations consuming small ones, we have a century of war ahead . Everyone will look into neighbouring country and say , oh , there are people there that speak our language , let's invade . The world finally sees british empire shrink , and now the russian empire will rise ?"Jul 19 04:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4423818Jul 19 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Planes Avoid Ukraine After Malaysia Airlines Incident http://reason.com/24-7/2014/07/17/planes-avoid-ukraine-after-malaysia-airl many avoided it even beforehandJul 19 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> reason.com | Planes Avoid Ukraine After Malaysia Airlines Incident - Reason 24/7 : Reason.com [ http://ur1.ca/hs4ww ]Jul 19 04:29
schestowitz"That is common sense, if commercial airlines avoid flying above Afghanistan why did they keep flying above Ukraine?"Jul 19 04:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4423812Jul 19 04:31
schestowitz"I know who I blame: The pilots for flying through a war zone."Jul 19 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Black box has not been recovered yet (why is it taking so long?), but Russian and Western media already "know" who to blame. Agenda at play.Jul 19 04:31
schestowitz"Hey asshole. Are you seriously blaming the victims? http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/jul/18/mh17-recording-russian-colonel-rebels-discuss-disaster-video"Jul 19 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | MH17: recording shows Russian colonel and rebels 'discussing disaster' – video | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/hs4x4 ]Jul 19 04:31
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:32
schestowitzYes, some of them. The ones who were in control of the plane and who knowingly flew through a war zone.Jul 19 04:32
schestowitzAbsolutely.Jul 19 04:32
schestowitzThat's right up there on the list of stupid things to do.Jul 19 04:32
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:32
schestowitz"I agree, why companies think that flying through a war zone is a good idea? Do they read news? Would it be possible that flying above East Ukraine is cheaper that going around?"Jul 19 04:32
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:32
schestowitzAssigning blame to the wrong parties is stupid. Can you all not read why airlines choose to fly over those routes? It's because they rely on an agency called the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) to determine which flights are safe.Jul 19 04:32
schestowitzhttp://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/ukraine-authority-instructed-mh17-to-fly-at-33000ft-says-masJul 19 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themalaysianinsider.com | Ukrainians instructed MH17 to fly at 10,000m, says MAS - The Malaysian Insider [ http://ur1.ca/hs4xd ]Jul 19 04:32
schestowitzSo if you want to blame someone, first blame the morons who pulled the trigger, then the ICAO for failing to assign a higher risk level to the route.Jul 19 04:32
schestowitzOr is your solution for airline pilots to unilaterally decide to take a detour through their own perceived safe route while browsing Wikipedia?Jul 19 04:32
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:32
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:33
schestowitzHere's more that's lacking from your assertions to blame the victims, more evidence. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/malaysia-was-not-informed-that-flight-route-was-unsafe-says-transport-minisJul 19 04:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themalaysianinsider.com | No one declared MH17 flight path unsafe, says Liow - The Malaysian Insider [ http://ur1.ca/hs4xf ]Jul 19 04:33
schestowitzIf no one tells you a bridge is unsafe, and it collapses when you cross it, are you going to blame yourself or the regulatory authorities?Jul 19 04:33
schestowitz'Jul 19 04:33
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:33
schestowitzOK, the first article says that the company requested to flight higher so it shows concern, but I still think that deciding to fly over East Ukraine was a bad idea and I would expect those companies to know more, after all they carry passengers for profit. The second article supports the idea that the company did nothing irregular, illegal or uncommon, but following regulations is not the same as doing the right thing.Jul 19 04:33
schestowitzSo who were the ones that authorized flying there? The Ukrainian government and European air traffic control body, and I think that saying that Kiev had no idea that might happen is nonsense.Jul 19 04:33
schestowitzNow the interesting part: why did the Ukrainian government and European air traffic control body authorized to fly there? Was it on purpose? And supposing that rebels shot down the airliner, why would they to that? Might be it on purpose?Jul 19 04:34
schestowitzI would not ask to think about Kiev shutting down the plane, it that were the case it would be very clear why.Jul 19 04:34
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:34
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:34
schestowitzSo let me get this straight.Jul 19 04:34
schestowitzYou're walking down the street and you see a gunfight. If you continue down your path, you will be caught in the crossfire.Jul 19 04:34
schestowitzBut you do it anyway because a cop told you to?Jul 19 04:34
schestowitzBullshit.Jul 19 04:34
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:34
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:34
schestowitz@mirko zlojic posted the following article in other thread:Jul 19 04:34
schestowitzhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2696389/That-blast-look-smoke-Sick-boast-laughing-rebels-saw-MH17-hit-missile-hours-leader-boasted-We-warned-not-fly-sky.htmlJul 19 04:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | 'That was a blast - look at the smoke': Sick boast of the laughing rebels as they 'saw MH17 hit by missile' - hours after leader boasted: 'We warned you - do not fly in our sky' | Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/hrv2n ]Jul 19 04:35
schestowitzSo it might be that rebels shot down that airplane, but nothing in the article backs the idea of rebels downing the airliner knowing it was civilian.Jul 19 04:35
schestowitzI see it this way:Jul 19 04:35
schestowitzKiev bombs East Ukraine without need. Kiev allows air traffic over East Ukraine, and the lower the better. And just to be sure, Kiev makes some military aircraft look harmless disguising them as UN aircraft. Sooner or later this was going to happen.Jul 19 04:35
schestowitzAnd as I see it, this is all about not caring: Europe and the US were horrified about the supposed snipers of previous Ukraine president, but said nothing when right-wing militants burned people to death in a Trade Union Hall in Ukraine’s Odessa, did not care when Kiev cut electricity and water to East Ukraine, and gave a fuck when Kiev shelled and bombed it.Jul 19 04:35
schestowitzHad Europe and US really cared they would had pressed Kiev for a diplomatic solution to this, but that did not happened and now people is indignant because rebels do not choose carefully targets flying ten kilometers up.Jul 19 04:35
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schestowitz@David. Then that's some pretty lousy law enforcement going on. Malaysian Airlines had no idea the rebels would have SAMs. Who the hell would be able to bring down a commercial liner flying at 33,000 ft?Jul 19 04:35
schestowitzIt's more like you are in a commercial flight flying above people with guns shooting at each other and any attempts at the blip in the sky is likely to fall far short.Jul 19 04:35
schestowitzSo yeah, I call bullshit on your bullshit.Jul 19 04:35
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schestowitz@Cronos.Jul 19 04:36
schestowitz    The second article supports the idea that the company did nothing irregular, illegal or uncommon, but following regulations is not the same as doing the right thing.Jul 19 04:36
schestowitzYou are moving the goalpost in this debate. Yeah, it would be far safer if planes only took routes with zero-risks like not flying at all. Running a business also means balancing risk management, trust, and cost in return for profit.Jul 19 04:36
schestowitzAnd at this point, I don't think any neutral party gives a shit any more about intent, which to take a quote from feminism, intent isn't magic. They shot down students, AIDS researchers, family returning to their home for the first time in 3 years. I was neutral before in this whole Ukrainian-Russian-Rebel fiasco. Now I know where I stand.Jul 19 04:36
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schestowitzActually a more appropriate criticism of my counterargument might be that when you're walking down the street you aren't doing so with something 300 human lives on the line.Jul 19 04:36
schestowitzThat changes the stakes considerably. You can take chances with your own life that you can't take when others' lives are on the line.Jul 19 04:36
schestowitzRegardless of the desensitization we experience with endless war.Jul 19 04:36
schestowitzIt was absolutely reckless to fly that plane in that airspace. And I don't really care what civil authorities you point your finger at: They aren't the ones on the scene. They aren't the ones risking their lives. If you are in control of that airplane, you are ultimately responsible.Jul 19 04:37
schestowitzNo matter who tells you to do it. Because even if you don't think the rebels have SAMs, you know the government forces do, and the latter are at least half-way expecting a Russian invasion. In a war zone, you trust no one, least of all combatants.Jul 19 04:37
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schestowitzAnd as I previously stated, you have to trust someone at some point. No one in Malaysia is even remotely aware of SAMs being used in the Ukraine. And basing business decisions on the possibility of the Ukrainian government mistakenly shooting down a commercial plane is as likely as that of expecting America to down one just because it came from Iraq.Jul 19 04:37
schestowitzIf you want to run a business on zero trust and doing it your own way when there is already an agency all airlines pool their information into for guidance, go right ahead. But very soon you will be driven out of business by better competitors.Jul 19 04:37
schestowitzYes the risk does differ when you have other lives to consider. But when the risks are so remote that they aren't even considered, companies are going to make the economic decision to stay viable.Jul 19 04:37
schestowitzPlus hnidsight is always 20-20.Jul 19 04:37
schestowitzI didn't see anyone spewing the "I told you so" rhetoric of flying commercial liners over Ukraine until now.Jul 19 04:37
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schestowitz@Rewarp, you're denying common sense.Jul 19 04:37
schestowitzAnd I'm not one to appeal to common sense much. In most cases, it's a pretty slippery concept.Jul 19 04:37
schestowitzBut the expectation that one can fly through a war zone safely is nonsensical. And the reason I wasn't talking about it is that I assumed no one would be this stupid.Jul 19 04:37
schestowitzObviously I overestimated their intelligence. But stupidity is not an excuse.Jul 19 04:37
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schestowitzAnd as for trusting no one, I didn't say run a business trusting no one.Jul 19 04:37
schestowitzI said trust no one in a war zone.Jul 19 04:38
schestowitzThough arguably, the economy is a war zone (and I'm one of the casualties).Jul 19 04:38
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schestowitz@Rewarp Talking about the company, would you fly with them if you had other options? The company might not have done anything wrong, but this is the second plane they lose and saying that they followed regulations does not make me feel more secure.Jul 19 04:38
schestowitzAnd about your standing it would be interesting to know why. I think everybody remembers this:Jul 19 04:38
schestowitzhttp://rt.com/news/156480-odessa-fire-protesters-dead/Jul 19 04:38
schestowitzSomeone might argue that the rebels downed the airplane believing they would be bombed otherwise. At ten kilometers of distance.Jul 19 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | 39 people die after radicals set Trade Unions House on fire in Ukraine's Odessa — RT News [ http://ur1.ca/hs515 ]Jul 19 04:39
schestowitzDo you think that pro-Kiev radicals burnt Odessa people alive because if not they would be killed instead? And what about clubbing the survivors to death, do you think that was by mistake? What did Europe and the US do about that?Jul 19 04:39
schestowitzDo you think that being burnt alive or clubbed to death was more merciful than dying in a plane crash? This seems to me as logical as saying that you were neutral in the Palestine-Israel conflict until Hamas rockets killed an Israeli.Jul 19 04:39
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schestowitzI'm pretty sure airlines can go around conflict zones, one time I flew from the UK to India and the airplane avoided Afghanistan. I had no idea that civilian airplanes were flying over East Ukraine, airplanes avoid flying above Fukushima even if the risk of radiation is low.Jul 19 04:39
schestowitzAgain: Why the Ukrainian government and the European air traffic control body allowed those flights? Was it on purpose?Jul 19 04:39
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schestowitz@David. I think we are done here. You believe no matter what airlines should always avoid warzones despite no information from corporate intelligence agencies of the risks of actual SAMs. I believe those intelligence agencies are solely to blame because airlines employ such companies for the very reason of deciding which routes are safe and viable.Jul 19 04:40
schestowitz@Cronos. MH370 was lost entirely due to the incompetence of the Malaysian government and Malaysian airlines. This flight was lost out of sheer bad luck. Thai Airways, India Air, China Eastern Airways, and Air China could easily have been the victims as well.Jul 19 04:40
schestowitzhttp://www.themalaysianinsider.com/world/article/why-were-commercial-planes-still-flying-over-ukraineJul 19 04:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themalaysianinsider.com | Why were commercial planes still flying over Ukraine? - The Malaysian Insider [ http://ur1.ca/hs51l ]Jul 19 04:40
schestowitzAnd of course I am horrified by the killing of any person. But as someone who had no idea what was going on in the ground until this conflict brought it home (yeah, I am Malaysian, and we just lost a plane to a group of rebels whom I last read were happy about having shot it down with glee), I could not do anything but be an absolute neutral in the Ukrainian-Russian-Rebels conflict.Jul 19 04:40
schestowitzPlus Israel commits warcrimes, and I have never been neutral on that issue since I started reading about it and researching it thoroughly a decade ago.Jul 19 04:40
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schestowitz@Cronos.Jul 19 04:40
schestowitzIndeed. That's my question too. Why the hell didn't anyone tell Malaysian airlines the routes were unsafe?Jul 19 04:40
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schestowitzInteresting questions:Jul 19 04:40
schestowitzhttp://rt.com/news/173976-mh17-crash-questions-ukraine/Jul 19 04:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/hs51o ]Jul 19 04:40
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schestowitz"Fuck RT. Why are the rebels stopping the international investigators from entering? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/mh17-crash-pro-russia-rebels-block-access-ukraine"Jul 19 04:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | MH17: rebels block access to part of site of crash as evidence against them grows | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/hs51p ]Jul 19 04:40
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schestowitz@Rewarp I had no idea you were Malaysian; it's not like downing a plane, even by mistake, were irrelevant. I'm Latin American and people might think that what is happening in Ukraine, Syria, Palestine and all those places is not related to us. And it might be true. Until one way or the other people not related becomes affected and directly involved, but by that time it's too late to think what might have done to avoid it.Jul 19 04:41
schestowitzIt's not funny seeing how people always find a good reason to kill others and nobody does something that helps even a little besides whining in the Internet or with friends. I deem important to know the thruth and why things happen, but sometimes I wish I do not.Jul 19 04:41
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schestowitzHere we go. If these are the actions of the rebels, they may as well spray paint a middle finger on their heads right now to everyone who just wants to find out the truth.Jul 19 04:41
schestowitzhttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/separatist-links-malaysia-airlines-mh17-removedJul 19 04:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Cover-up: Ukraine rebels destroying all links to MH17 air atrocity | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/hs51t ]Jul 19 04:41
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schestowitzussia is asking an international comission for this. If it's true that rebels did not shut down the plane, do you think they will hand over to Kiev the only proof of that?Jul 19 04:41
schestowitzAnd talking about that, is it possible to know if a plane was downed with a missile with the black box?Jul 19 04:41
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schestowitzRussia is posturing. It's obvious for all to see. And I don't see how a bunch of international investigators from the Netherlands and Malaysia can be misidentified as Ukrainian officials.Jul 19 04:42
schestowitzHeck, Malaysians are already waking up to the news of this latest affront while the bodies of passengers on our plane are bloating up and rotting away.Jul 19 04:42
schestowitzhttp://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/drunk-gunmen-deny-monitors-access-to-mh17-siteJul 19 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themalaysianinsider.com | ‘Drunk’ gunmen deny monitors access to MH17 site - The Malaysian Insider [ http://ur1.ca/hs523 ]Jul 19 04:42
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:42
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schestowitzAl Jazeera says something different:Jul 19 04:42
schestowitzhttp://m.aljazeera.com/story/201471851244142391Jul 19 04:42
schestowitzCan you see why an international comission is needed?Jul 19 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.aljazeera.com | Ukraine rebels pledge truce for jet recovery - Al Jazeera English [ http://ur1.ca/hs524 ]Jul 19 04:42
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schestowitzWhat does it say differently? It's from 11 hours ago and it says Ukrainian investigators have been barred from investigating. The OCSE and Malaysian officials are already in Ukraine and they have been barred from entering.Jul 19 04:42
schestowitzIf that doesn't qualify as international, what does?.Jul 19 04:42
schestowitz"Jul 19 04:42
schestowitz"What about Russian and Chinese representatives? Russia is the one being blamed and China might be more neutral than Europe has been."Jul 19 04:42
schestowitz"Do you think we Malaysians give a shit? We already have our own investigators on the field, and if it's true it isn't the rebels who fired the missiles, we will know how to assign blame. But if those rebels are barring our people from the investigation site after promising secure and unfettered access, what are we suppose to make of it? Benefit of the doubt only goes so far."Jul 19 04:43
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DaemonFCschestowitz, Plan to link to those articles describing Windows Phone going down in flames?Jul 19 06:16
DaemonFCOr should we start calling it Zune Phone yet?Jul 19 06:16
DaemonFCI wonder if MinceR saw the part 3 video of "If Google was a guy.".Jul 19 06:21
DaemonFCThey took a couple of really funny shots at the iPhone. Jul 19 06:21
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Sosumiwell I think that today after the Snowden confirmationsJul 19 07:59
Sosumippl have got more than enough reasons to demand software to made available on gnu/linuxJul 19 07:59
Sosuminow I have no idea how that accounting software compares, to say, gnucashJul 19 08:00
Sosumibut nowadays there is really no excuse at all no not support “officially” as vendors like to put itJul 19 08:01
Sosumired hat based distros and ubuntuJul 19 08:01
DaemonFCApparently, the GNOME Foundation spent too much money on the outreach program to women, and now has no cash reserves.Jul 19 08:16
DaemonFCI thought it was another Linsux joke when I saw that the other day, so I clicked through and they turned out to be telling the truth.Jul 19 08:16
DaemonFCI don't know why open source software projects are freaking out that there's not all that many women contributing to the project. This is the 21st century. Women have the same shot at these jobs. Is it really imperative to spend money on an outreach program? Should the money be used for that or to develop code?Jul 19 08:17
Sosumidumb dumb and dumbJul 19 08:33
Sosumiif women want something to do with a projectJul 19 08:33
Sosumithey’ll join it by their own initiativeJul 19 08:34
Sosumino need for dumb prJul 19 08:34
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DaemonFChttp://www.firsttube.com/read/why-you-probably-should-not-buy-a-zune/Jul 19 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.firsttube.com | Why You Probably Should NOT Buy a Zune | firsttube.com [ http://ur1.ca/hs81e ]Jul 19 10:03
DaemonFCApparently, even if you copy non-DRM files onto a Zune, it won't let you upload them back out to a computer.Jul 19 10:03
DaemonFCLOLJul 19 10:03
DaemonFCI never knew that.Jul 19 10:03
DaemonFC"Did I mention that the RIAA gets a cut of every Zune sold, because the chairman of Universal says that if you buy one of these devices, you’re obviously a thief who downloads music illegally? Well, [[http://billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003380831|it happened]]. Microsoft must acknowledge that people who use portable music players are thieves, because they are cutting in the music companies on the sale oJul 19 10:05
DaemonFCf the HARDWARE. Explain that one!"Jul 19 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.billboard.com | Music News - Breaking Music Articles & Videos - Page 1 | Billboard [ http://ur1.ca/hs81w ]Jul 19 10:05
DaemonFCWow....Jul 19 10:05
Sosumineither the ipod allows you to do thatJul 19 10:39
Sosumionly creative players didJul 19 10:39
Sosumiand MDJul 19 10:39
Sosumior at least the one I had allowed me to do thatJul 19 10:39
DaemonFChttp://freshbsd.org/commit/openbsd/557bbfcd1942a7161312f0600edd4c176d181d20?diff=lib%2Flibssl%2Fsrc%2Fdoc%2Fcrypto%2FDES_set_key.podJul 19 10:40
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DaemonFChttp://torrentfreak.com/chrome-blocks-utorrent-as-malicious-and-harmful-software-140716/Jul 19 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | Chrome Blocks uTorrent as Malicious and Harmful Software | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/hs8io ]Jul 19 11:59
DaemonFCGoogle is being evil again.Jul 19 11:59
DaemonFChttp://torrentfreak.com/dotcoms-mega-plans-179m-public-listing-via-reverse-takeover-140325/Jul 19 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | Dotcom's Mega Plans $179m Public Listing Via Reverse Takeover | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/hs8ix ]Jul 19 12:01
DaemonFCLOLJul 19 12:01
Guest66954https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/490458601790910464Jul 19 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Speaking of lazy MSM I'm still waiting to hear about Russia's oil deal with Cuba.....doubt that's going to be reported.Jul 19 12:32
Guest66954or even the debt writeoffJul 19 12:32
Guest66954http://www.ibtimes.co.in/8-facts-about-nelson-mandela-you-probably-did-not-know-604793Jul 19 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.in | 8 Facts about Nelson Mandela You Probably Did not Know [ http://ur1.ca/hs8ol ]Jul 19 12:40
Guest66954"Conspiracy theorists say that the police were tipped off by a CIA agent."Jul 19 12:40
Guest66954Wasn't this a known fact?Jul 19 12:41
Guest66954That they played a role in his arrest?Jul 19 12:41
Guest66954https://twitter.com/sumitshresth/status/490461690903805952Jul 19 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sumitshresth: @schestowitz : yeah but their bad luck that they shot down a passenger plane belonging to a neutral countryJul 19 12:43
Guest66954https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/490461379187707904Jul 19 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz 32 Billion vanishes and MSM don't notice, or fail to report. Can kinda understand how a banking crisis happened.Jul 19 12:43
Guest66954The news was covered in some Latin Amercian and Russian media (in English), I saw it nowhere elseJul 19 12:43
Guest66954https://t.co/94d9cfHBMYJul 19 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ https://joindiaspora.com/p/4428697 )Jul 19 12:54
Guest66954https://joindiaspora.com/posts/4428697 Jul 19 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #UK Foreign Office Reverses Course On #CIA Rendition Files 'Lost' To Water Damage: Papers Have Now 'Dried Out' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140716/10263727898/uk-foreign-office-reverses-course-cia-rendition-files-lost-to-water-damage-papers-have-now-dried-out.shtml LOL!!!Jul 19 12:55
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Guest66954https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/490465144871616512Jul 19 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz I spotted on RT, but normally it takes a week or two before someone at work goes "ohh I just saw ....on news".Jul 19 12:57
Guest66954http://live.wsj.com/video/ukraine-president-terrorist-act-downed-flight-mh17/80E31CC3-8219-47BD-A02D-F773238498A4.html#!80E31CC3-8219-47BD-A02D-F773238498A4Jul 19 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-live.wsj.com | Video - Ukraine President: 'Terrorist Act' Downed Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 - WSJ.com [ http://ur1.ca/hs8ri ]Jul 19 12:59
Guest66954https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/490465819684392960Jul 19 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Home office actually did it's own investigation into UK torture claims. I get the impression the info was destroyed pre-investJul 19 13:02
Guest66954https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/490468727155339264Jul 19 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Good time to bury bad news,Labour government style.Jul 19 13:11
Guest66954https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/490469161899151360Jul 19 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz spot on. whose terrorist/freedom fighters? Nelson Mandela called terrorist by Thatcher & Reagan & on US no fly lists July 2008Jul 19 13:14
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCOh, also, there's a new program coming called Android Silver.Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCIf you want the best Android experience, look for manufacturers with Android Silver certification.Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCGoogle has strict requirements on the participating manufacturers. In exchange, Google gives them some money for each Android Silver-compliant phone they sell.Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCThere will also be a new lineup of very affordable unlocked phones that still give a relatively good experience.Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFChttp://www.mobot.net/android-phone-landing-october-69378Jul 19 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mobot.net | First Android One phone landing in October? | News Articles | Mobot.net [ http://ur1.ca/hsash ]Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFC<snip>Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCWhile Android Silver will see Google working closely with its best mates at the high end of the spectrum, the aim of Android One is to make a decent phone that's truly affordable for every Tom, Dick, Harry, Sanjay, Raj and Mukul across the world.Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCThe first Android One phone will be produced by Micromax, costing as little as $100, with specs including a 4.5in display, dual-SIM slot, SD compatibility, and FM radio for all the latest pop group hits.Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFC</snipJul 19 19:27
DaemonFChttp://www.techradar.com/us/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/android-silver-everything-you-need-to-know-1246714Jul 19 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techradar.com | Android Silver: everything you need to know | News | TechRadar [ http://ur1.ca/hsasi ]Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFC<snip>Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCSilver is a bit like a more advanced Nexus programme, but instead of working with one manufacturer on one device, Google will work with multiple firms on multiple devices.Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCGoogle supposedly wants to help manufacturers to deliver a premium Android experience, so participating firms will get help from Google with their development and marketing costs, and their devices will get preferential treatment when it comes to software updates.Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFC....Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCIt should mean a wider choice of high-end Android devices at reasonable prices, and those devices will be free from the bloatware, unwanted apps and over-the-top customisation that plagues some firms' handsets.Jul 19 19:27
MinceRnexus could be more advancedJul 19 19:27
DaemonFCThat's because participating firms will have to agree not to mess around with stock Android in much the same way Microsoft's Signature programme banished bloatware from participating PCs.Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCThe devices must "closely adhere to Google specifications" and will "sharply limit the number of non-Google apps that can be pre-installed on devices" or ensure that phone owners will be able to uninstall them.Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCIt also means that you'll be able to buy handsets without wondering if you're getting the most up to date version of Android or whether the firm will bother supplying Android updates after a few months.Jul 19 19:27
MinceRto the point where they don't leave out stuff like microsd card slotsJul 19 19:27
DaemonFC</snip> Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCI do believe it's clear who the Android One's target is.Jul 19 19:27
DaemonFCSay "Hasta la Vista" to Windows Phoney. Jul 19 19:28
MinceRand don't add stupid restrictions that most OEMs patch out anywayJul 19 19:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SteamOS Update 123 Fixes Multiple Reboots, TheJul 19 19:28
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DaemonFCGoogle does seem to be pretty good about salting the Earth of Microsoft before they get into new markets.Jul 19 19:37
DaemonFCThey just handed Firefox a billion dollars to keep Microsoft out and now they're going to pay Android phone makers to push a decent $100 Android phone.Jul 19 19:38
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Sosumiso? no more nexus phones?Jul 19 20:42
MinceRandroid authority said there will be more nexus devicesJul 19 20:43
Sosumicool thenJul 19 20:43
MinceRsilver seems more like the new name of google play editionJul 19 20:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GCC Code Gets Updated For Go 1.3 LanguageJul 19 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MicroXwin Creators Have A PC That Runs Debian &Jul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Together http://t.co/5g2pvOaTOYJul 19 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Musing: Microsoft to offer its software onJul 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux – A theoretical consideration.Jul 19 20:45
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Sosumiliterally they already doJul 19 20:51
Sosumidoesn’t office 365 also run on gnu/linux?Jul 19 20:51
Sosumiit run inside the browserJul 19 20:52
Sosumi*runsJul 19 20:53
Sosumiplus didn’t m$ want everyone to move to a software as service type of thingJul 19 20:53
Sosumiby restricting office to just one machine and jacking the prices upJul 19 20:54
Sosumiso everyone would move into 365Jul 19 20:54
Sosumiand even if they did come with a linux versionJul 19 20:56
Sosumiit wouldn’t be the same as the windows versionJul 19 20:56
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Sosumijust a feature stripped version like the one they make for osxJul 19 20:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Could we See a Linux Tablet Brought to LifeJul 19 22:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kerala Legislature moves to open sourceJul 19 22:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDecoration2 – The road aheadJul 19 22:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Faults in Linux 2.6 http://t.co/O0ROZGkIV5Jul 19 22:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Faults in Linux 2.6 | Tux MachinesJul 19 22:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chromecast Now Lets Users Move Android ContentJul 19 22:33
TweetTuxMachines                 to Their TVs http://t.co/Vj7Op523UuJul 19 22:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chromecast Now Lets Users Move Android Content to Their TVs | Tux MachinesJul 19 22:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     [Pictures] Samsung Z (SM-Z910F) Tizen in GoldJul 19 23:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meld 3.11.2 Diff and Merge Tool for GNOME HasJul 13 00:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meld 3.11.2 Diff and Merge Tool for GNOME Has Been Released | Tux MachinesJul 13 00:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     6 Upcoming Linux-Based Smartphone OperatingJul 13 00:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Systems That Aren’t AndroidJul 13 00:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Upcoming Linux-Based Smartphone Operating Systems That Aren’t Android | Tux MachinesJul 13 00:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.2.61 LTS Officially ReleasedJul 13 00:11
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4391859Jul 13 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kelvinpittman@diasp.org: Time! ![dig!](https://podricing.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_27ea23d0f4d445585f42.png) via: @{harry haller (nerdpol.ch) ; harryhaller@nerdpol.ch}, @{Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ; schestowitz@joindiaspora.com} #Stallman #time-is-not-money #time-is-time #money-is-an-empty-promise #silly-Capitalist-time-is-for-everyoneJul 13 07:33
schestowitz""Time! dig! https://podricing.org/uploads/images/scaledfull27ea23d0f4d445585f42.png via: harry haller (nerdpol.ch), Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) #Stallman #time-is-not-money #time-is-time #money-is-an-empty-promise #silly-Capitalist-time-is-for-everyone"Jul 13 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://podricing.org/uploads/images/scaledfull27ea23d0f4d445585f42.png )Jul 13 07:34
schestowitzTime! dig! https://podricing.org/uploads/images/scaledfull27ea23d0f4d445585f42.png via: harry haller (nerdpol.ch), Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) #Stallman #time-is-not-money #time-is-time #money-is-an-empty-promise #silly-Capitalist-time-is-for-everyoneJul 13 07:34
schestowitz"Jul 13 07:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4384536Jul 13 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The IRS may be targeting open source projects." http://www.itworld.com/open-source/426611/irs-scheming-destroy-open-source-projectsJul 13 07:34
schestowitz"All the more reason to think reading wired articles will get you tagged by NSA."Jul 13 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.itworld.com | Is the IRS scheming to destroy open source projects? | ITworld [ http://ur1.ca/hq9dw ]Jul 13 07:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4390954Jul 13 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: FOSS advocate uses some fairly neutral (not Microsoft-funded) data point to claim #firefox decline http://tildehash.com/?blog=the-popularity-of-firefox-is-definitely-waningJul 13 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> tildehash.com | The popularity of Firefox is definitely waning! [ http://ur1.ca/hqes8 ]Jul 13 07:34
schestowitz"What are they doing with Mono? I hadn't heard that..."Jul 13 07:35
schestowitzUnity3dJul 13 07:35
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DaemonFCschestowitz, I might understand the "ads in new tabs" thing in Firefox, if it was opt-in or something, and they desperately needed the money.Jul 13 08:16
DaemonFCThey get enough from Google and donations, that I don't see why they need more money.Jul 13 08:16
DaemonFCI think they get 80% of their money from Google and most of the rest from donations.Jul 13 08:16
DaemonFChttp://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/mozilla-revenue-tops-311-million-from-open-source-technology.htmlJul 13 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Mozilla Revenue Tops $311 Million From Open-Source Technology [ http://ur1.ca/hqhpj ]Jul 13 08:17
DaemonFC"Mozilla announced its 2012 earnings this week, reporting record revenue of $311 million."Jul 13 08:17
DaemonFCI've heard people say that Google basically has two web browsers, but it's not true.Jul 13 08:19
DaemonFCMozilla is independent enough from Google that Google decided to start doing Chrome.Jul 13 08:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MPV 0.4.1 MPlayer-Based Video Player App forJul 13 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Released http://t.co/cFz7KYEc5zJul 13 12:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MPV 0.4.1 MPlayer-Based Video Player App for Linux Released | Tux MachinesJul 13 12:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chitwanix OS 1.5 Uses a Modified Cinnamon 2.0Jul 13 12:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Environment http://t.co/znTARZ5im5Jul 13 12:35
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DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/12/libressl_portable/Jul 13 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | LibreSSL crypto library leaps from OpenBSD to Linux, OS X, more • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/hqjtr ]Jul 13 15:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Games http://t.co/AEs1ldZpFoJul 13 15:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Games | Tux MachinesJul 13 15:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/HGaHmMTddGJul 13 15:04
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4363123Jul 13 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We shouldn't expect #Facebook to behave ethically http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/06/we-shouldnt-expect-facebook-to-behave-ethically nothing ethical about #surveillance and selling dossiers on peopleJul 13 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | We shouldn't expect Facebook to behave ethically | Technology | The Observer [ http://ur1.ca/hpuya ]Jul 13 17:47
schestowitz"Crime is always possible, that does not make it inevitable. The strong have inherent advantages over the weak. It may be more likely in trade and business because criminals have such huge advantages. They also spend lots of money on propaganda convince us that their behavior is both inevitable and good, but we should reject their arguments of might makes right. I think most people, even some animals, intuitively understand injustice Jul 13 17:47
schestowitzand that this is a problem that can be solved."Jul 13 17:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4394015Jul 13 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Blackheart Lady: Margaret Thatcher 'personally covered up' child abuse allegations against senior ministers http://www.sott.net/article/281832-Blackheart-Lady-Margaret-Thatcher-personally-covered-up-child-abuse-allegations-against-senior-ministersJul 13 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.sott.net | Blackheart Lady: Margaret Thatcher 'personally covered up' child abuse allegations against senior ministers -- Puppet Masters -- Sott.net [ http://ur1.ca/hqlrb ]Jul 13 17:48
schestowitz"Oh , she wouldn't do that , that bitch ..."Jul 13 17:48
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4393340Jul 13 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "1970s when cases of unlawful covert operations... were uncovered, including spying on American citizens" http://www.cdapress.com/columns/syd_albright/article_85604792-e25c-5037-bb6e-c91d436b0862.htmlJul 13 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cdapress.com | Frank Church fought Big Brother Government - Coeur d'Alene Press: Syd Albright [ http://ur1.ca/hqlrl ]Jul 13 17:48
schestowitz"Yes, and Watergate. Now everything's papered over."Jul 13 17:48
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/488039869563023360Jul 13 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: VP Of EU Commission On Copyright Reform: 'I'd Sing You Happy Birthday, But I Don't Want To Have To Pay The Royalt... https://t.co/iB0Jri8zH6Jul 13 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joindiaspora.com | VP Of EU Commissi...Jul 13 17:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/487914806541049856Jul 13 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Five men suing #Obama administration after falling into ‘suspicious activity’ file http://t.co/t7qkk2gEFc ... https://t.co/jZ2LzW7mzqJul 13 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> rt.com | Five men suing Obama administration after falling into ‘suspicious activity’ file — RT USAJul 13 17:50
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395524Jul 13 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #uk "Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Bill (DRIP). Here's the absurd timeline" http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2014/07/urgent-please-write-to-mps-to-stop-drip/index.htm we have emergency: gov. coupJul 13 18:05
schestowitz""drip".....Bad intentions dripping from it? Very likely."Jul 13 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blogs.computerworlduk.com | Urgent: Please Write to MPs Today to Stop the DRIP - Open Enterprise [ http://ur1.ca/hqlxs ]Jul 13 18:05
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/bdcory/status/488378917577695232Jul 13 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bdcory: @schestowitz Math and science don't lie.Jul 13 18:49
DaemonFChttp://news.distractify.com/culture/craigslist-surveillance-restaurant/?v=1Jul 13 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.distractify.com | Restaurant Watches Old Surveillance And Shares Shocking Results On Craigslist [ http://ur1.ca/hqmmi ]Jul 13 19:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dropbox 2.11.0 for Linux Brings a Revamped UserJul 13 19:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/K102TiOj0CJul 13 19:55
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/488404303053598720Jul 13 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz How the fuck is that remotely legal?Jul 13 23:25
schestowitzThat's why I'm taking them to CourtJul 13 23:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4393502Jul 13 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Expulsion of top spy a 'wake-up call' for US http://www.dw.de/expulsion-of-top-spy-a-wake-up-call-for-us/a-17777777 counter-espionage funding http://www.dw.de/german-spies-clamor-for-counter-espionage-funding/a-17781269Jul 13 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dw.de | Expulsion of top spy a 'wake-up call' for US | World | DW.DE | 11.07.2014 [ http://ur1.ca/hqlqj ]Jul 13 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dw.de | German spies clamor for counter-espionage funding | Germany | DW.DE | 12.07.2014 [ http://ur1.ca/hqlqk ]Jul 13 23:27
schestowitz"To me the message was "please be more discret", if Germany would be really upset it would be asking its gold deposited in the US back immediately."Jul 13 23:28
schestowitz"Or it would grant Snowden asylum. There was an op-ed in Al Jazeera to this effect."Jul 13 23:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395964Jul 13 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be better if there was just one party in the US instead of one pretending to be two. GOP vs Dem. enables divide-and-rule tactics.Jul 13 23:28
schestowitz"that would be the republicrat party (or the democrican party)"Jul 13 23:28
schestowitz"Or simply list the biggest contributor by each candidate's name instead of party."Jul 13 23:28
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzYes, that would make more sense and be more honest. The Facebook candidate, the Goldman Sacks candidate, the Monsanto candidate.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzThat might be even called a multiparty democracy.Jul 13 23:29
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schestowitz"Jul 13 23:29
schestowitz@Cronos, that's hardly a democracy, that would be corporatocracy.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzThere should be full disclosure of all donors who contributed a total minimum of, say, $1000.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:29
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzUncle Meat, it isn't 'democracy' anyway. It's a republic.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzAnd republics are all about rule by the rich.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzSee Federalist No. 10.Jul 13 23:29
schestowitz"Jul 13 23:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/488449731602165760Jul 13 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz ......I need details of this trial, also if it goes high court ima turn up in public gallery with fried chicken!Jul 13 23:30
schestowitzDoesn't need to go to High Court, I have a strong case, can finish it cheaply at 4000 quidJul 13 23:30
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/488450596350197762Jul 13 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Dependant on if they want to admit you have a strong case though let's be fair.Jul 13 23:32
schestowitzIt'll go as high as it needs to beJul 13 23:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4396049Jul 13 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Tonight we'll watch our first WC14 match. Supporting my team in the final. Town has huge screens. Triangle and Spinningfield.Jul 13 23:34
schestowitz"So you're going to root for Die Manshaft"Jul 13 23:34
schestowitz"Germany well deserved 1-0"Jul 13 23:34
schestowitzNot sure if well deserved, it was a close matchJul 13 23:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395864Jul 13 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Recording and storing everyone's phonecalls is cheap. A cost analysis I did two years ago: at $100 per person can record everything 24/7.Jul 13 22:36
schestowitz"And with taxpayer's money there is no need to be either profitable or cheap."Jul 13 22:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4393835Jul 13 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nsa cares about #math like #cia cares about #security - their goals are often to derail the math and destablise the world for PowerJul 13 22:36
schestowitz"The NSA rudely bullied the US NIST into accepting flawed standards. That's derailing math to spy on people. There may be other examples."Jul 13 22:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4391352Jul 13 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #brazil got massive debt from an event where it merely gets humiliated. It used to be a football giant. Now it's an open net.Jul 13 22:38
schestowitz"Jul 13 22:38
schestowitzSomething like three weeks ago I was talking with my father, and told me how important was the victory of our national team because it was the second time in history it happened.Jul 13 22:38
schestowitzI had no idea what to say, I not even cared to watch the matches so I said nothing at all. And one week later he was upset because our team was eliminated, and to me nothing changed at all.Jul 13 22:38
schestowitzHow can you convince someone that doing something to avoid being robbed is more important than our national soccer team? I have no idea and I'm not the one being robbed so I simply let my father live the life he choose.Jul 13 22:38
schestowitz"Jul 13 22:38
schestowitz Sports are used by many nations to shift from one's own competition to one's nation. Nationalism works well for the state, more then pursuit of the success of smaller groups.Jul 13 22:38
schestowitz*thanJul 13 22:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395986Jul 13 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #surveillance and #intimidation (under the FBI pretext that this is "terrorism") has successfully crush the #occupy movementJul 13 22:43
schestowitz"Is it really crushed?"Jul 13 22:43
schestowitz""Jul 13 22:44
schestowitz"Jul 13 22:44
schestowitzI think, yes, the Occupy movement has been crushed.Jul 13 22:44
schestowitzI do not count 'Occupy Sandy' and 'Occupy Debt' as worthy of the name. They capitulate to the status quo.Jul 13 22:44
schestowitzOccupy, at the beginning, took the laudable position that it wanted nothing from the elite, but rather that their very existence was the problem. Paying off the elite or helping with civil defense is a very long ways from that initial position.Jul 13 22:44
schestowitz"Jul 13 22:44
schestowitzCorporate media in the #uk never covers #nsa Menwith Hill. It's bad enough that it has no gov oversightJul 13 22:54
schestowitzbut no press oversight either?Jul 13 22:54
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 14 04:50
DaemonFC"(my gosh somebody bought a chromebook)"Jul 14 04:50
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Laptop/zgbs/pc/565108Jul 14 04:50
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/gp/top-rated/pc/565108/Jul 14 04:50
DaemonFCChromebooks are selling like hotcakes and Windows isn't even in the Top Rated laptops until you get to #23. Jul 14 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon Best Sellers: Best Laptop Computers [ http://ur1.ca/hqrnl ]Jul 14 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com Top Rated: The best in Laptop Computers based on Amazon customer reviews [ http://ur1.ca/hqrnm ]Jul 14 04:50
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 14 04:50
DaemonFCMicrosoft Windows 8.1 - Full VersionJul 14 04:50
DaemonFC2.8 out of 5 stars. What is that? 56% is a D, if I recall correctly,Jul 14 04:50
DaemonFCWindows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit, System Builder OEM DVD 1 Pack (New Packaging)Jul 14 04:50
DaemonFCWindows 7 gets 3.9 out of five stars. 78% is like a C.Jul 14 04:50
DaemonFCSo "Best Windows ever" is a C and Windows 8 is a D. We can't compare Vista, because apparently Amazon no longer sells it, but I think it's fair to say "Big fat F". Jul 14 04:50
DaemonFCMove to GNU/Linux, where the OS is and A and F is for Freedom. B-) Jul 14 04:51
DaemonFC"Way back in the day, Nvidia got caught lying about feature support when a program asked if the card supported a particular feature, and they didn't, but the driver would say "yes, I do". This aggravated Microsoft, because it was causing DirectX problems. As in "Program asks if a feature is supported. Oh good, it's supported. I'll use it. CRASH.". :) "Jul 14 05:33
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395964Jul 14 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be better if there was just one party in the US instead of one pretending to be two. GOP vs Dem. enables divide-and-rule tactics.Jul 14 06:06
schestowitz"Jul 14 06:07
schestowitzSeriously, the best way to corrupt a politician is with money, giving donations does not seems to me a good idea.Jul 14 06:07
schestowitzI like Mexico's elections system, and I'm compelled to believe that its system (not their politicians) is one of the best in the world. For example, donations are forbidden, they have assigned a budget according to the amount of voters they got and if a party spends more of the money alloted then they might got the poll declared void.Jul 14 06:07
schestowitzI have not a good idea about a supposed Super PAC in the US intended to support politicians that pledge to support ending this practice, but to me that's like trying to buy politicians and corporations have more money to play that game.Jul 14 06:07
schestowitz"Jul 14 06:07
schestowitz"If a campaign budget is allocated by the number of votes a candidate gets, how does a candidate foresee how many votes s/he'll win? Or, if the budget is based on past performance, then how is that fair to the equivalent of, say, the Green Party in the U.S.? Would it not lock them into a perpetually underfunded campaign?"Jul 14 06:07
schestowitz"Indeed, I think it would be better if all parties had the same funds regardless of its past performance, but if you think that there are fringe parties everywhere then you avoid wasting money in them. And I think there is a minimum, and Mexican parties have alloted equal time in mass media (besides paid ads) so is not like small parties had no opportunity at all."Jul 14 06:08
schestowitz"Jul 14 06:08
schestowitzBy the way, if you think that Mexican elections are expensive you're right, funding all the parties and the way elections are carried out (no electronic voting) makes them expensive even for first-world standards, but at least the elections are fair more or less.Jul 14 06:08
schestowitzBut having a good system is half a good democracy, the other half are good citizens voting for good candidates and I think that is not the case.Jul 14 06:08
schestowitz"Jul 14 06:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4393502Jul 14 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Expulsion of top spy a 'wake-up call' for US http://www.dw.de/expulsion-of-top-spy-a-wake-up-call-for-us/a-17777777 counter-espionage funding http://www.dw.de/german-spies-clamor-for-counter-espionage-funding/a-17781269Jul 14 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dw.de | Expulsion of top spy a 'wake-up call' for US | World | DW.DE | 11.07.2014 [ http://ur1.ca/hqlqj ]Jul 14 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dw.de | German spies clamor for counter-espionage funding | Germany | DW.DE | 12.07.2014 [ http://ur1.ca/hqlqk ]Jul 14 06:09
schestowitz"No, if Snowden is wise he will never be back in the West, not even Latin America is safe enough."Jul 14 06:09
schestowitz"@cronos@cronostech.no-ip.org , on this, I fear you're right."Jul 14 06:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4394001Jul 14 06:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: redneck yank in an SUV... ![redneck yank in an suv](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7nbmdSHIS1qz9bu3o1_500.jpg) #redneck #bigot #conservative #english #grammar #dumbass, #yank #suv #yankee #carcultureJul 14 06:10
schestowitz"Urine America"Jul 14 06:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395928Jul 14 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #Gestapo Still Sets the Bar for Evil http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/13/the-gestapo-still-sets-the-bar-for-evil.html "Decades before the NSA..."Jul 14 06:21
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schestowitz"Damnation of the NSA by faint praise."Jul 14 06:21
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4393837Jul 14 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why the Return of American Torture Is Inevitable http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/07/return-american-torture-future even the films now promote torture and assassinationJul 14 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com | Why the Return of American Torture Is Inevitable | Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/hqsh6 ]Jul 14 06:21
schestowitz"The War of Terror continues."Jul 14 06:21
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schestowitzhttp://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/07/i-am-not-a-pacifist/Jul 14 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Craig Murray » Blog Archive » I am not a Pacifist [ http://ur1.ca/hqsmu ]Jul 14 06:36
schestowitz"The British retaking of the Falklands was legal. The Argentinian invasion was not. But lots of things are legal but not sensible. The government deliberately resolved the Falklands war in the most violent way possible to benefit from jingoism and overcome a disastrous popularity crisis for the Tories at home. Britain’s continued colonial rule over the Falklands is ludicrous."Jul 14 06:36
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4396049Jul 14 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Tonight we'll watch our first WC14 match. Supporting my team in the final. Town has huge screens. Triangle and Spinningfield.Jul 14 07:18
schestowitz"I was thinking about the 2 Argentina players that could have been send off. I also think we (the Dutch team) would have had a good chance in the final."Jul 14 07:18
MinceRinteresting kind of brain damage there: problems with Chrome, Java and Flash => "free can suck"Jul 14 07:31
MinceRwhich of those is free software?Jul 14 07:31
schestowitzexactlyJul 14 07:49
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/annejanbrouwer/status/488597233592705024Jul 14 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@annejanbrouwer: Well @schestowitz technically since Palestine isn't a country and thus has no military it should be 100% civilians .. right?Jul 14 08:26
schestowitzThese terms are loosely defined by the dominator. The US likes to call all adult males "militants".Jul 14 08:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/488610184030617600Jul 14 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz I'm glad to hear it, will you be keeping everyone updated on progress.Jul 14 09:18
schestowitzlate summer/autumnJul 14 09:18
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/488622962082590720Jul 14 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Not long then!Jul 14 09:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488627884605444097  https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488628298486792193Jul 14 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not existJul 14 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz Kitsilano Software is just me. No hidden agenda. What I've been doing with @monotizen is an open book. See Twitter, Github ...Jul 14 10:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488628716440788992  https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488628936562061312 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488629310559760384Jul 14 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz @monotizen ... and blogs. Ended an 18 year career in big company games (http://t.co/kFgox2fkgJ), now working for @roadhousehqJul 14 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> bobsummerwill.wordpress.com | End of an era | Bob's BlogJul 14 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz @monotizen And @roadhousehq use @unity3d because just about all small games companies use @unity3d. It's the best there is.Jul 14 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz @monotizen And what makes @unity3d so good? The @monoproject, and the productivity of C#.Jul 14 10:23
schestowitz"Hey @schestowitz! Kitsilano Software is literally just me. No hidden agenda. What I've been doing is an open book."Jul 14 10:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488629820763291648Jul 14 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz As for @monotizen and my involvement in @TizenProject, I did that project because @xamarinhq didn't. @ztzg contracted for me.Jul 14 10:24
schestowitzme: @BobSummerwill @monotizen @TizenProject @xamarinhq @ztzg Why encourage #linux devs to use C# (with MS #swpats )?Jul 14 10:24
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/07/android-apps-on-windows-phone-would-be-an-ugly-capitulation/Jul 14 10:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Android apps on Windows Phone would be an ugly capitulation | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/hqv45 ]Jul 14 10:29
DaemonFCAnother way to look at this is sort-of good news.Jul 14 10:29
DaemonFCWindows Phone flopped and Microsoft is looking to cease development and try to freeload off of Android instead.Jul 14 10:30
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/emergency-windows-update-revokes-dozens-of-bogus-google-yahoo-ssl-certificates/Jul 14 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Emergency Windows update revokes dozens of bogus Google, Yahoo SSL certificates | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/hqv7x ]Jul 14 10:36
DaemonFC"People using default versions of Mac OS X, Linux, and other operating systems are also immune since they don't trust CCA-authorized sites."Jul 14 10:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488630206320476160 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488630368396787712 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488630756508307458 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488632010424864768Jul 14 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz Every line of the work we did was in the open at https://t.co/HJ75Eu18XM. You'll see posts at https://t.co/e4F6EekxxU ...Jul 14 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz and at http://t.co/Fd7NnY2Hvj, and more importantly at @monotizen and @bobsummerwill. No hidden agenda whatsoever.Jul 14 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> go-mono.com | Forums - MonoJul 14 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz Getting the @monotizen Mono Runtime working on Tizen turned out to be literally one #define change (https://t.co/a8fKzNmwqK)Jul 14 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz The @monoproject have a clear and long-standing statement of position on patent-risk http://t.co/DfTn9NOBaP.Jul 14 10:54
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488632307591294978  https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488632622436716544   https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488633357895344128Jul 14 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz With the creation of the @dotnetfdn (http://t.co/TL4qLcnidq) and Microsoft and Xamarin's strategic partnership, I think the ...Jul 14 10:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz ... risk of patent claims against @monoproject is now close to zero, because @monoproject's success is now important to MS.Jul 14 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz The @monoproject lets MS reach iOS and Android, as Windows wanes in importance. Linux is the winner by side-effect.Jul 14 10:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488634091378470912 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488635618390319104 https://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488636108297605121Jul 14 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz I detest software patents. I was delighted to see @elonmusk throw away theirs. @monoproject carries no special risk, IMHO.Jul 14 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz @monotizen @TizenProject @xamarinhq @ztzg Because C# is a hugely productive language. HTML5 and C++ are not good enough.Jul 14 10:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: @schestowitz @monotizen @TizenProject @xamarinhq @ztzg Software patents threaten all software. Mono is nothing special.Jul 14 10:55
schestowitzthis is what Microsoft is trying to tell the world and why Mono is dangerousJul 14 10:56
MinceRooh, mono advertisement on our feedJul 14 10:56
schestowitz I have written extensively about problems with mono http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MonoJul 14 10:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mono - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/1x784 ]Jul 14 10:56
schestowitzMinceR: just showing you what he saysJul 14 10:57
schestowitzhe is trying to put Mono in TizenJul 14 10:57
schestowitzand I'm hoping to convince him not to waste time on itJul 14 10:57
schestowitzhe has a daytime job, he should focus more on thatJul 14 10:57
schestowitzHe's a Brit who moved to CanadaJul 14 10:57
schestowitzHis wife is Canadian it seems...Jul 14 10:57
schestowitzthe project is a one-man effort, but could potentially expandJul 14 10:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BobSummerwill/status/488636552017235969Jul 14 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BobSummerwill: FIGHT ON! I've been called a patent troll and tool of the evll @Microsoft / @xamarinhq empire for making @monotizen https://t.co/2rEyHZt23nJul 14 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Software Patents Demising in the US as #Microsoft Patent Attacks on #Android/#Linux Suffer a Huge Setback http://t.co/nIYTh5g1nD #swpatsJul 14 10:58
schestowitzComplete Bulls***, you were not called a patent troll or a toolJul 14 10:59
MinceRgeekingsJul 14 11:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical and Ubuntu Helped Munich SaveJul 14 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Millions of Dollars by Ditching MicrosoftJul 14 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Products http://t.co/gDoZH3is4cJul 14 11:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical and Ubuntu Helped Munich Save Millions of Dollars by Ditching Microsoft Products | Tux MachinesJul 14 11:26
DaemonFCI wonder if switching from EXA to glamor would work.Jul 14 11:54
DaemonFCThe manpage for my radeon driver suggests it will.Jul 14 11:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Road Ahead http://t.co/pXmwaVL4cjJul 14 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Road Ahead | Tux MachinesJul 14 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04: Is Canonical taking on too much?Jul 14 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04: Is Canonical taking on too much? | Tux MachinesJul 14 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat CEO Whitehurst on VMware, OpenStack andJul 14 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat CEO Whitehurst on VMware, OpenStack and CentOS | Tux MachinesJul 14 12:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/JJGqjSxkg4Jul 14 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 14 12:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu With Linux 3.16 Smashes OS X 10.9.4 OnJul 14 17:02
TweetTuxMachines                 The MacBook Air http://t.co/x6PdC0niv6Jul 14 17:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu With Linux 3.16 Smashes OS X 10.9.4 On The MacBook Air | Tux MachinesJul 14 17:02
DaemonFCOh wow. Switching from EXA to GLAMOR really sped things up.Jul 14 17:09
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 14 18:47
DaemonFCThe "system refresh" didn't fix any of the problems on my brother's Windows laptop, even after I gave up and told it to do a complete refresh where it wipes the data.Jul 14 18:48
DaemonFCObviously, it is NOT re-installing the OS files, it just deletes your data, resets a few settings to default values, and then a brisk several hours later, it welcomes you back to broken OS minus your files.Jul 14 18:48
DaemonFCThen congratulates you for being a sucker that bought Microsoft Big ****pile 8.1.Jul 14 18:48
DaemonFCIt works fine now. Humming right along with Kubuntu 14.04 LTS.Jul 14 18:48
DaemonFCTalk about fix and forget. That laptop won't have any more software problems until the day the hardware fails. Jul 14 18:48
*DaemonFC is blowing steam about Windows 8.Jul 14 18:48
Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/14/nickel-ipad-rash/Jul 14 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | iPad Implicated in Pediatric Rashes Diagnosed as Nickel Allergies - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/hr4if ]Jul 14 18:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat to be a Key Contributor to andJul 14 19:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Benefactor of the Kubernetes ProjectJul 14 19:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat to be a Key Contributor to and Benefactor of the Kubernetes Project | Tux MachinesJul 14 19:07
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 14 19:07
DaemonFCI always used to chuckle when a new processor came out and one of the benchmarks would be how fast it scanned C:\Windows for viruses.Jul 14 19:07
DaemonFCThat's just so awesome. At least they admitted, in a round about way, why you needed a new $400 processor.Jul 14 19:07
DaemonFCWhat else would you use one for?Jul 14 19:07
DaemonFC"The Microsoft Office benchmarks are next."Jul 14 19:07
DaemonFCOh. Damn. Sorry I asked! Jul 14 19:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is making your product free and open sourceJul 14 19:07
TweetTuxMachines                 crazy talk? http://t.co/UFOpYLVdmzJul 14 19:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CentOS 7 Comes on the Heels of Red HatJul 14 19:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS 7 Comes on the Heels of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 | Tux MachinesJul 14 19:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu With Linux 3.16 Smashes OS X 10.9.4 OnJul 14 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 The MacBook Air http://t.co/hOfrfHLnEHJul 14 19:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GParted Live 0.19.1 Beta 1-2 Is the BestJul 14 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Solution for Partitioning on the FlyJul 14 19:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GParted Live 0.19.1 Beta 1-2 Is the Best Solution for Partitioning on the Fly | Tux MachinesJul 14 19:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian 7.6 "Wheezy" Officially ReleasedJul 14 19:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 7.6 "Wheezy" Officially Released | Tux MachinesJul 14 19:09
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DaemonFC"Stick around! Next we'll see how long it takes Microsoft Internet Toolbar Explorer to load!"Jul 14 19:16
DaemonFCIt's like a car accident. I can't look away..... Jul 14 19:16
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MinceRlolJul 14 19:25
Sosumim$ is actually copying apple now on what appeared to be leaked images of windblows 9Jul 14 19:31
Sosumiall glassy themed gui and with the metro crap put inside a modified windows 7 start menuJul 14 19:32
Sosumias widgetsJul 14 19:32
Sosumibut the lsd flavour is all over itJul 14 19:33
MinceRso, still worse than xpJul 14 19:33
Sosuminever used xp personally to compareJul 14 19:33
Sosumibut still no virtual desktopsJul 14 19:34
Sosumiwhich on my opinion are excelent productivity boostesJul 14 19:35
MinceRthat's too complicated for ordinary usersJul 14 19:35
Sosumi*boostersJul 14 19:35
MinceRand microdronesJul 14 19:35
MinceRand crApple cultistsJul 14 19:35
Sosumicrapple has thoseJul 14 19:35
MinceRtheirs is fucked up, afaikJul 14 19:35
MinceRcan't separate the windows from an application from each otherJul 14 19:35
Sosumiand switches to another desktop when you close a program on your present oneJul 14 19:38
Sosumifor no reasonJul 14 19:38
Sosumiwhich was a bug introduced on 10.9 when they finally made the virtual desktops display indepedentJul 14 19:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Coimbra University to save plenty with openJul 14 21:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Coimbra University to save plenty with open source ERP | Tux MachinesJul 14 21:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unofficial Android L port lands for HTC OneJul 14 21:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unofficial Android L port lands for HTC One | Tux MachinesJul 14 21:54
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395964Jul 15 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be better if there was just one party in the US instead of one pretending to be two. GOP vs Dem. enables divide-and-rule tactics.Jul 15 00:34
schestowitz"Jul 15 00:34
schestowitzThe more parties you fund the more expensive it will be; I think that in Mexico any party with more than 2% of the population supporting it can run for the presidency but I'm not so sure.Jul 15 00:34
schestowitzBesides that, I think half the work should be done by political parties and the other half by the citizens, I think that not having massive funding like the main parties should NOT be a reason for people not voting them.I find hard to believe that people can find cats in the Internet easily but are unable to find candidate's plan and trajectory. If people will vote for the candidate with the better ads then that's the kind of presidentJul 15 00:34
schestowitzthey will have, one good in marketing.Jul 15 00:35
schestowitzTalking about the US, what about Bernie Sanders? I have not hear so much about him but all what I have heard is good:Jul 15 00:35
schestowitzhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/18/bernie-sanders-2016_n_4295872.htmlJul 15 00:35
schestowitz"Jul 15 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com | Bernie Sanders Open To 2016 Presidential Run [ http://ur1.ca/hr89u ]Jul 15 00:35
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schestowitzThe only real problem I have with Bernie Sanders is that he participates in authoritarian political system and seeks solutions in it, disregarding that the system itself is the problem.Jul 15 00:36
schestowitzHe represents a small state, Vermont, which is probably unique in the U.S. It has, for instance, enacted and is in the process of implementing a single-payer health care system. There is a secession movement there that is probably better developed than any other in the country, and the people there would secede for the right reasons, for example, opposition to neoconservative war, opposition to neoliberalism, etc., which make Vermont Jul 15 00:36
schestowitzsomething of an outlier.Jul 15 00:36
schestowitzIt is inconceivable that a self-identified socialist could be elected U.S. Senator from any other state.Jul 15 00:36
schestowitzSanders runs as an independent but usually votes with Democrats; he is effective to the extent that Democrats can use him to advance their agenda. Outside that agenda, his words are, very sadly, nothing more than hot air.Jul 15 00:36
schestowitzSanders is far from disproof of two-party (I'm being generous: Gore Vidal and Noam Chomsky have said much the same thing as @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) did in opening this thread) hegemony; if anything, he simply further proof of it.Jul 15 00:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft to push cheaper Windows PCs toJul 15 03:40
TweetTuxMachines                 compete with Chromebooks http://t.co/MvTUCwIJUAJul 15 03:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft to push cheaper Windows PCs to compete with Chromebooks | Tux MachinesJul 15 03:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     “World’s first” iris recognition smartwatchJul 15 03:40
TweetTuxMachines                 runs Android http://t.co/9lHE5vgGARJul 15 03:40
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/488876207274860546Jul 15 03:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | “World’s first” iris recognition smartwatch runs Android | Tux MachinesJul 15 03:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395964Jul 15 06:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be better if there was just one party in the US instead of one pretending to be two. GOP vs Dem. enables divide-and-rule tactics.Jul 15 06:58
schestowitz"Jul 15 06:58
schestowitzHalf of what you have said about Sanders and Vermont sounds good to me, but since I'm not a US citizen I see no case in investigating further.Jul 15 06:58
schestowitzAnyway, I think that we have to try the easier and less violent ways first, because if that does not work then you have no other choice than taking a gun and try to end the regime or running away. Doing nothing but complaining does not look a solution to me, is more like a therapy.Jul 15 06:58
schestowitzI think that the best revolutions, the ones where the whole society advances and are more lasting, are the ones where almost nobody dies like in Iceland, the others where scores of people die are by themselves unsustainables and sooner or later they become only a change of tyrant.Jul 15 06:58
schestowitz"Jul 15 06:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4399241Jul 15 06:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Hamas 'claims responsibility' for drone attacks" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/14/israel-shoots-down-gaza-drone-live-updates not exactly interested in ceasefireJul 15 06:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Egypt proposes Israel-Gaza ceasefire as death toll nears 200 - the day's events | World news | theguardian.com [ http://ur1.ca/hrbi6 ]Jul 15 06:58
schestowitz"Why should they be interested in a ceasefire? They are killed with impunity no matter what they do. The problem is that Palestinians are treated like caged animals. This is looking like a repeat of operation "Cast Lead", which basically proves all of the lock down, murder and punishment worthless. Do we want a future where collective punishment is eternally dished out on a population that only becomes more bitter each time?"Jul 15 06:58
schestowitz> http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.odgJul 15 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-couldn't connect to host ( status 0 @ http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.odg )Jul 15 07:13
schestowitz> http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.pngJul 15 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-couldn't connect to host ( status 0 @ http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.png )Jul 15 07:13
schestowitzServe down. What's there?Jul 15 07:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MLinux Allinone Edition 9.1 Beta HasJul 15 07:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Everything You Need http://t.co/GIQuml59EZJul 15 07:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux Allinone Edition 9.1 Beta Has Everything You Need | Tux MachinesJul 15 07:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fermilab Releases Scientific Linux 7.0 Alpha 2Jul 15 07:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fermilab Releases Scientific Linux 7.0 Alpha 2 | Tux MachinesJul 15 07:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     halting problem :: codes of conductJul 15 07:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | halting problem :: codes of conduct | Tux MachinesJul 15 07:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Linux Desktop, FreeDOS Still Matters, andJul 15 07:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Darksiders http://t.co/CyyTuTtT4GJul 15 07:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Desktop, FreeDOS Still Matters, and Darksiders | Tux MachinesJul 15 07:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4404810Jul 15 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The US government breaks into networks, computers, servers etc. while calling intrusion into them "cyber terrorism". Labeling itself?Jul 15 08:33
schestowitz"Try reasonong with amerikans , and you'll understand . Yeserday a guy explained to me that anglosaxons had the right to the land because before the 'red' people , there were nordic in amerika ?? And he's suposedly an educated , openminded person ."Jul 15 08:33
schestowitzwow. Maybe he watched some fiction movie, like one where Transformers were the reasons dinosaurs went extinct! :-)Jul 15 08:33
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schestowitz>>> http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.odgJul 15 08:45
schestowitz>>> >> http://beach.traxel.com/img/snowden-binney-2016-d.pngJul 15 08:45
schestowitz>> > Jul 15 08:45
schestowitz>> > Serve down. What's there?Jul 15 08:45
schestowitz>> > Jul 15 08:45
schestowitz> A fake campaign sticker promoting Snowden and Binney for president /Jul 15 08:45
schestowitz> vicepresident in 2016Jul 15 08:45
schestowitzIt would be hilarious if I could see if, but it's still down.Jul 15 08:45
*TweetTuxMachines @RedditArchLinux favourited 'Best Linux Desktop, FreeDOS Still Matters, and Darksiders...'Jul 15 08:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Firefox in a Fix? http://t.co/WtA64oDQELJul 15 08:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Firefox in a Fix? | Tux MachinesJul 15 08:49
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4395964Jul 15 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be better if there was just one party in the US instead of one pretending to be two. GOP vs Dem. enables divide-and-rule tactics.Jul 15 09:01
schestowitz"Jul 15 09:01
schestowitzIndeed. The difficulty with violent revolution is that it replaces one set of thugs with another.Jul 15 09:01
schestowitzBecause you need thugs to win.Jul 15 09:01
schestowitzThe trouble is that I see no prospect that the elite will willingly give up power. Indeed, what we see with increasing police brutality not just in the U.S. but around the world, increasing militarization of the police, domestic spying and other brutal forms of repression of dissent is that the elite have no qualms about using violence to preserve their position.Jul 15 09:01
schestowitz"Jul 15 09:01
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/488969462868373504Jul 15 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Murdoch calls for ISPs to be liable for users' activities http://t.co/dVvS8Svv3a the 1% wants to crush whatever exposes the 1%Jul 15 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Murdoch calls for ISPs to be liable for users' activities • The RegisterJul 15 10:10
schestowitzEveryone's yard always looks less green than the neighbour's. UK has its issues also.Jul 15 10:10
MinceRgeekingsJul 15 10:36
MinceRhttp://www.patheos.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/2011/11/cult-leaders-vs-the-pope/Jul 15 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patheos.com | Cult Leaders vs The Pope [ http://ur1.ca/hrdrs ]Jul 15 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tell the FCC: Net Neutrality is crucial to freeJul 15 12:16
TweetTuxMachines                 software http://t.co/FIcav8gVPfJul 15 12:16
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hre7xJul 15 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tell the FCC: Net Neutrality is crucial to free software | Tux MachinesJul 15 12:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft Said to Announce Job Cuts as Soon asJul 15 12:16
TweetTuxMachines                 This Week http://t.co/MLj6wLqfWoJul 15 12:16
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hre7yJul 15 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Said to Announce Job Cuts as Soon as This Week | Tux MachinesJul 15 12:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apple iPhone 6 Clone Surfaces in China as CCTVJul 15 12:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Cautions Against iPhone Usage, Fearing NSAJul 15 12:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Spying http://t.co/ZRnWb9YBMhJul 15 12:16
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hre7zJul 15 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Apple iPhone 6 Clone Surfaces in China as CCTV Cautions Against iPhone Usage, Fearing NSA Spying | Tux MachinesJul 15 12:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why is Cabinet Office Holding Back Microsoft'sJul 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 ODF Emails? http://t.co/SyODXuunJUJul 15 13:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why is Cabinet Office Holding Back Microsoft's ODF Emails? | Tux MachinesJul 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New AMD Catalyst 14.6 Beta Video Driver forJul 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Now Out http://t.co/iIXwGZBDETJul 15 13:48
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrer1Jul 15 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New AMD Catalyst 14.6 Beta Video Driver for Linux Now Out | Tux MachinesJul 15 13:48
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Sosumithe iphone’s aluminum treatment also causes herpesJul 15 14:32
Sosumior was it arsenic allergy? :PJul 15 14:32
Sosumiso, another thing to watch out forJul 15 14:32
Sosumiand just not the NSAJul 15 14:32
Sosumi*nickel allergiesJul 15 14:33
Sosumimsdos logicJul 15 14:40
Sosumihttps://i.4cdn.org/s/1405402276172.jpgJul 15 14:40
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MinceR:)Jul 15 14:47
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4406674Jul 15 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Endless stream of brutal imagery required for war on terror propaganda" http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-and-cia-want-to-keep-isis-tweeting-exploiting-social-media-to-keep-the-endless-war-on-terror-alive/5391222?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pentagon-and-cia-want-to-keep-isis-tweeting-exploiting-social-media-to-keep-the-endless-war-on-terror-aliveJul 15 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.globalresearch.ca | Pentagon and CIA Want to Keep ISIS Tweeting: Exploiting Social Media to Keep the Endless War on Terror Alive | Global ResearchJul 15 15:51
schestowitz"I guess new bin laden is needed for western fat cats to continue justifying war in islamic countries. Just saying..."Jul 15 15:51
MinceRor the people living in the middle east will never be at peace until no more than one group survivesJul 15 15:55
MinceR(various muslim cults that hate each other and the jews)Jul 15 15:56
abeNd-orgso, turn off the news & let them sort it out themselves?Jul 15 15:56
MinceRdunnoJul 15 15:59
MinceRi'm afraid them sorting it out themselves will lead to nuclear winter over here, tooJul 15 15:59
MinceRi'm not sure if that's avoidable at allJul 15 15:59
abeNd-orgso we should have turned off the news & let them sort it out pre-nukeJul 15 16:00
MinceRi wouldn't turn off the newsJul 15 16:01
MinceRi'm not sure what purpose that would serveJul 15 16:01
abeNd-orgwell, does it matter if you watch it or not? do you have any power to change anything going on?Jul 15 16:04
MinceRi might have enough to seek shelter for myself :>Jul 15 16:06
MinceRalso to learn from it in the case i manage to surviveJul 15 16:06
abeNd-orgmeh, if it is your time...Jul 15 16:07
DaemonFChttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/kde-plasma-5-releasedJul 15 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | KDE Plasma 5 Arrives with Fresh New Look, True ConvergenceJul 15 16:19
DaemonFCCONVERGENCE!!!!Jul 15 16:20
DaemonFCWhat is it with them using that word all over the place?Jul 15 16:20
DaemonFCSomeone said Chrome is dangerous to use because it has a shell.Jul 15 16:28
DaemonFCI corrected him.Jul 15 16:28
DaemonFC"crosh is hidden so that normal users will never find it, and you can't really do anything with it that could harm the system even if you're a complete moron. Complete morons who accidentally load a crosh tab, don't know what it is, and start typing stuff, won't figure out how to become root (the chronos account) anyway.Jul 15 16:28
DaemonFCOf course, there's an explanation for users who do accidentally hit the key combo to bring up a crosh tab, that says :If you got here by mistake, just close this tab.".Jul 15 16:28
DaemonFCChromebooks are so easy to use that anyone could use one.Jul 15 16:28
DaemonFCOS X and Windows have shells out in plain site. Your "normal user" can even open one up and totally destroy the operating system. People manage to use those systems. Some of the dumbest morons who have ever lived figure out Windows and OS X, and those are much harder to use than Chrome OS."Jul 15 16:28
MinceRthis sense of convergence is that you're supposed to be able to use the same ui on phones, tablets, laptops, desktop pcs, etc.Jul 15 16:34
DaemonFChttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2012/12/18/10378851.aspxJul 15 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.msdn.com | Why was Pinball removed from Windows Vista? - The Old New Thing - Site Home - MSDN BlogsJul 15 16:39
DaemonFCMinceR, I don't want the UI on my computer to be the same as on my phone.Jul 15 16:39
DaemonFCThat wouldn't make a very good experience.Jul 15 16:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenWRT 14.07 RC1 Brings Native IPv6 Support,Jul 15 16:40
TweetTuxMachines                 New Init System http://t.co/yXttagnNt4Jul 15 16:40
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489043563112456192Jul 15 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenWRT 14.07 RC1 Brings Native IPv6 Support, New Init System | Tux MachinesJul 15 16:40
DaemonFChttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2005/12/01/498882.aspxJul 15 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.msdn.com | What one Windows XP feature am I most proud of? - The Old New Thing - Site Home - MSDN BlogsJul 15 16:41
DaemonFCSome of these are actually kind of funny.Jul 15 16:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Plasma brings a cleaner interface on top ofJul 15 16:48
TweetTuxMachines                 a new graphics stack http://t.co/vubbRZuSx6Jul 15 16:48
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489043563762556928Jul 15 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Plasma brings a cleaner interface on top of a new graphics stack | Tux MachinesJul 15 16:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Announcing Project Zero http://t.co/x7nl7S33z2Jul 15 16:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcing Project Zero | Tux MachinesJul 15 16:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     “To whom much has been given, much is expectedJul 15 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 in return” – Free Software economicsJul 15 16:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PAXYc3oOWX (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 15 16:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489084786653155328Jul 15 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | “To whom much has been given, much is expected in return” – Free Software economics | Tux MachinesJul 15 16:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Linux Desktop: Top 10 CandidatesJul 15 16:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Desktop: Top 10 Candidates | Tux MachinesJul 15 16:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/YgLXE8tNIfJul 15 16:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 15 16:54
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schestowitz_Goblin: heJul 15 18:01
schestowitzheyJul 15 18:01
_Goblinhi there!Jul 15 18:01
_Goblinhows things.Jul 15 18:01
schestowitzgood. and you? Still in England?Jul 15 18:10
_GoblinyepJul 15 18:17
_Goblincompleted on house in US though nowJul 15 18:17
_Goblinwe will be north east for the next few months at least tho...Jul 15 18:18
_Goblinso as of Aug we'll be quite close geographicallyJul 15 18:18
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2dthDSGkc#t=96Jul 15 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Plasma 5.0 Visual Feature Guide - YouTubeJul 15 18:20
DaemonFCThere's a ISO with KDS Plasma 5 on it to try out, based on Kubuntu.Jul 15 18:21
DaemonFChttp://files.kde.org/snapshots/neon5-latest.isoJul 15 18:21
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75Jul 15 18:24
schestowitzDaemonFC: have you tried it yet?Jul 15 18:24
schestowitzIf so, can you post what you're seeing now?Jul 15 18:25
schestowitz_Goblin: can we come to visit this summer or is it inconveniencing to others?Jul 15 18:25
schestowitz_Goblin: I read your article today. Let's hope we can resume the show as a sort of trans-Atlantic thingJul 15 18:25
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DaemonFCI'm in the middle of downloading it. I figured I'd make a Live USB out of it and take it for a spin, to see what's going on.Jul 15 18:29
_Goblinnot at all....we'll be in Seaham this summer...Jul 15 18:30
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_Goblinas for transatlantic stuff...if you make a G+ account we can work it no probs....I've done a recording with someone from PA.Jul 15 18:31
schestowitzI can do thatJul 15 18:31
schestowitzThe show can then be made video-based too, though I guess the formats would annoy someJul 15 18:32
DaemonFCschestowitz, I'm downloading it. I'll take screenshots while I'm using it.Jul 15 18:32
schestowitzif you do some techrights ones, I will share in twitter tomorrowJul 15 18:38
schestowitz_Goblin: caught up with the other two messages (I had restarted konversation). Yes, we need to arrange to meet up (the wives too) some time this summerJul 15 18:47
DaemonFCI'm amazed at how much HexChat has cleaned up the old XChat code.Jul 15 18:47
DaemonFCI don't remember XChat ever working this well. Jul 15 18:48
DaemonFCI wonder whatever happened to that XChat-GNOME thing. GNOME seems to be writing a new IRC program, so I take it they didn't rebase the old one off of HexChat.Jul 15 18:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4404699Jul 15 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Still no lawsuit from #noip or its customers against #microsoft - perhaps proving that you can freely commit crimes when you're large enoughJul 15 18:49
schestowitz"Waiting for that too."Jul 15 18:49
schestowitzXChat always worked well for meJul 15 18:50
schestowitzI have run it non-stop (maybe half a day downtime twice in all those years) since 2008Jul 15 18:50
DaemonFCAny plans to move to HexChat now that XChat is dead?Jul 15 18:50
DaemonFChttp://hexchat.readthedocs.org/en/latest/changelog.htmlJul 15 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hexchat.readthedocs.org | HexChat ChangeLog — HexChat 2.10.0 documentationJul 15 18:51
DaemonFCThe changelog is pretty extensive.Jul 15 18:51
schestowitzI have scripts tied to xchatJul 15 18:54
schestowitzI run it on two machinesJul 15 18:54
schestowitzactually, on threeJul 15 18:54
schestowitzDebian, Kubuntu, and my laptopJul 15 18:54
schestowitzSo moving to something that might not be on the repos or consistently built might not offer any gainsJul 15 18:54
DaemonFCFedora is carrying both and has backported some of the patches to XChat to fix major problems.Jul 15 18:55
MinceRDaemonFC: sometimes i would want the two UIs to be the sameJul 15 19:06
MinceRbut not alwaysJul 15 19:07
MinceRi suspect that xchat scripts would run mostly (or completely) the same on hexchatJul 15 19:07
MinceRit's the same codebase, after allJul 15 19:08
MinceRas for the winblows xp thing, i'd really like to see a good task schedulerJul 15 19:08
MinceRon whatever kernelJul 15 19:08
schestowitzit seems like lots of work for no gainJul 15 19:12
schestowitzI don't use xchat for features, just for logging, and it's stable, not just lightJul 15 19:12
MinceRan upgrade is "lots of work"? :>Jul 15 19:16
schestowitzyesJul 15 19:19
schestowitzit's not a simple upgrade but a package swapJul 15 19:19
schestowitzfor little or no substantial gainJul 15 19:19
DaemonFCThose are the best kind!Jul 15 19:44
schestowitzplasma 5 demos hardly show me any new featuresJul 15 20:08
schestowitzexcept search-related, which I'd never allow (indexing is a waste)Jul 15 20:08
DaemonFCBaloo improved things a lot.Jul 15 20:09
DaemonFCI think they switched over to Baloo on KDE 4 at the last minute to get rid of one of the major warts that never had been addressed up to that point. Nepomuk.Jul 15 20:12
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DaemonFCWell, that was unimpressive.Jul 15 20:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/7ZZoXbP8wPJul 15 20:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 15 20:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/6pdzQ9xDTaJul 15 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJul 15 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FFmpeg 2.2.5 Officially ReleasedJul 15 21:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/MR3JbU4PQ7 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 15 21:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FFmpeg 2.2.5 Officially Released | Tux MachinesJul 15 21:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 0.8.10 Receives Its Third Update PackJul 15 21:09
TweetTuxMachines                 and Linux Kernel 3.15 SupportJul 15 21:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/vKtQnraQpA (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 15 21:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489146020647813120Jul 15 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 0.8.10 Receives Its Third Update Pack and Linux Kernel 3.15 Support | Tux MachinesJul 15 21:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Advances JPEG Encoding with mozjpeg 2.0Jul 15 21:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Advances JPEG Encoding with mozjpeg 2.0 | Tux MachinesJul 15 21:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | imgur: the simple image sharerJul 15 22:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     $35 OpenWRT SBC targets educational appsJul 15 22:51
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oMWDTZq1BV (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 15 22:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489146021851582464Jul 15 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $35 OpenWRT SBC targets educational apps | Tux MachinesJul 15 22:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Imad Sousou: The Future of Linux and Intel inJul 15 23:00
TweetTuxMachines                 the New Connected World http://t.co/sJffkFPPfPJul 15 23:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 15 23:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489146022510088192Jul 15 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Imad Sousou: The Future of Linux and Intel in the New Connected World | Tux MachinesJul 15 23:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Offers Up A Free Crash Course In AndroidJul 15 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Development http://t.co/XQJt6rOTOKJul 15 23:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Offers Up A Free Crash Course In Android Development | Tux MachinesJul 15 23:09
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4409089Jul 16 07:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Microsoft's mouthpiece at #CondeNasty (Ars) is upset that #Microsoft is abandoning #Windows http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/07/android-apps-on-windows-phone-would-be-an-ugly-capitulation/Jul 16 07:00
schestowitz"To be fair, Android apps on a Windows platform would be gross. I already dislike this whole "fake native" solution of just having enough of a runtime to run Android apps because your own platform doesn't get enough traction. The whole thing is sloppy as hell."Jul 16 07:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Android apps on Windows Phone would be an ugly capitulation | Ars TechnicaJul 16 07:01
schestowitz"This article silently asserts that developers are writing applications for Windows, as if it were still 1995. They are not. The rest of the article rambles on pointlessly."Jul 16 07:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4405855Jul 16 07:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Presumption of guilt based on garments http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jasjit-singh/the-nsa-mohammed-raghead-_b_5584736.htmlJul 16 07:01
schestowitz"Ignorance ...."Jul 16 07:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com | "Mohammed Raghead" and Fighting the Anti-Turban Bias that Plagues Our Land of Liberty | Jasjit SinghJul 16 07:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4409096Jul 16 07:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Western media's coverage of #ukraine is so deceiving that one is likely to get a better analysis from Ukranians on the streetsJul 16 07:01
schestowitz"If you have Ukrainian aquaintances."Jul 16 07:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4409065Jul 16 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "working to change state law to legalize the activities under investigation." http://www.prwatch.org/news/2014/07/12536/after-john-doe-subpoenas-wi-gop-sought-quietly-change-law #wisconsin apes #uk on #surveillanceJul 16 07:02
schestowitz"So typical of our lawless oligarchs."Jul 16 07:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.prwatch.org | Exclusive: After Subpoenas in Walker Criminal Probe, WI GOP Sought to Quietly Change Law | PR WatchJul 16 07:02
schestowitz> http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/07/14/this-is-why-the-government-should-never-control-the-internet/Jul 16 07:07
schestowitz> Jul 16 07:07
schestowitz> The Post of course.Jul 16 07:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | This is why the government should never control the internet - The Washington PostJul 16 07:07
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 16 07:21
DaemonFCThere are only two kinds of Mac in the "mainstream" market.Jul 16 07:21
DaemonFCSlow and 'spensive and less slow and "arm, leg, eye, kidney, and testicle" 'spensive.Jul 16 07:21
DaemonFCWhen Apple introduced the $1099 iMac recently, Ars Technica did a write up that concluded that you lost roughly 50% of the performance from the $1299 model, to save 18% of your money.Jul 16 07:21
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/07/1099-imac-review-lose-50-of-your-performance-to-save-18-of-the-money/Jul 16 07:21
DaemonFCStaggering? Not really. People who keep an eye on Apple know that if the price seems too good to be true, it's probably junk.Jul 16 07:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | $1,099 iMac review: Lose 50% of your performance to save 18% of the money | Ars TechnicaJul 16 07:21
DaemonFCYou could get yourself a niiiiiiiiiice PC for $1099 or a severely brain damaged iMac. Your call. Jul 16 07:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE 5 is Here, LibreSSL Unsafe, and Debian 7.6Jul 16 07:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Released http://t.co/yokbF8bdLbJul 16 07:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 07:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489311559802302464Jul 16 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE 5 is Here, LibreSSL Unsafe, and Debian 7.6 Released | Tux MachinesJul 16 07:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tiny module runs Linux and LabView on ARM/FPGAJul 16 07:49
TweetTuxMachines                 SoC http://t.co/NCy9BTuOeEJul 16 07:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 07:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489311560393699328Jul 16 07:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny module runs Linux and LabView on ARM/FPGA SoC | Tux MachinesJul 16 07:50
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schestowitz https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489202878658379776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489203164416319488Jul 16 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #DRIP heroes, round one https://t.co/E5hgZTe5AD "Voting against the programme motion - ... https://t.co/TGlCFJulPsJul 16 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.openrightsgroup.org | Open Rights Group - #DRIP heroes, round oneJul 16 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joindiaspora.com | #DRIP heroes, rou...Jul 16 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "working to change state law to legalize the activities under investigation." http://t.co/xoPoMjJm0T #wisconsin apes #uk on #surveillanceJul 16 08:05
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489202817971007488 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489202878658379776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489203164416319488 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489205646047580160 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/489205757234388992Jul 16 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: CISA: The Banks Want Immunity and a Public-Private War Council http://t.co/HPL5Eua9fH #banks work directly with Keith Alexander now. #cisaJul 16 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.emptywheel.net | CISA: The Banks Want Immunity and a Public-Private War Council | emptywheelJul 16 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Dan Goodin (Cande Nasty) and his longtime Jihad against Linux security reputation carries on http://t.co/7sEKp2PEWhJul 16 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Only a few days old, OpenSSL fork LibreSSL is declared “unsafe for Linux” | Ars TechnicaJul 16 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: [recent enough to be relevant] #Mozilla Revenue Tops $311 Million http://t.co/BclolRg2on it will survive, surely...Jul 16 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eweek.com | Mozilla Revenue Tops $311 Million From Open-Source TechnologyJul 16 08:05
schestowitzhttps://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4409096  https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/4409097Jul 16 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Western media's coverage of #ukraine is so deceiving that one is likely to get a better analysis from Ukranians on the streetsJul 16 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Filtering (by editing) voices on the streets to suit a narrative that a broadcast company already chose is neither journalism nor reportingJul 16 08:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Detailed review of Plasma 5Jul 16 08:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4KLEbsBDX2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 08:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489311561194811392Jul 16 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Detailed review of Plasma 5 | Tux MachinesJul 16 08:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KaOS Calms Down KDE http://t.co/nG2SbI0qZxJul 16 08:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 08:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489311561756856320Jul 16 08:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KaOS Calms Down KDE | Tux MachinesJul 16 08:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to use public PCs safely with LinuxJul 16 08:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rza57EfX6E (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 08:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489322112327245825Jul 16 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to use public PCs safely with Linux | Tux MachinesJul 16 08:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 9 Core and Ultimate are releasedJul 16 09:05
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kiR8thwq7g (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 09:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489322112981532672Jul 16 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 9 Core and Ultimate are released | Tux MachinesJul 16 09:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE AnnouncementJul 16 09:13
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kw8bdZbipV (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 09:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489322113531002880Jul 16 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE Announcement | Tux MachinesJul 16 09:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04: The good, the bad, the UnityJul 16 09:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RdgVOlZRVr (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 09:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489332511231586305Jul 16 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04: The good, the bad, the Unity | Tux MachinesJul 16 09:22
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 16 09:35
DaemonFCMicrosoft is talking about a product that doesn't exist (Windows 9) and may not exist for years, to suppress criticism of Windows 8.Jul 16 09:35
DaemonFCWith Microsoft, the "new version that fixes everything you hate" is always just around the corner. They've been pulling that trick for three decades now, because it works.Jul 16 09:35
DaemonFCThey started talking about a "more reliable dos-less Windows" for consumer PCs back in the 1980s. Guess when consumers got their "more reliable dos-less Windows"? Late 2001.Jul 16 09:35
DaemonFCTheir "Evangelism" guide clearly states that when people talk poorly of the current software, you try to change the focus to something that doesn't exist and is right around the corner, any minute now.Jul 16 09:35
DaemonFCThe old tricks are the best tricks. They're even "leaking" out mocked up screen shots again. Will people ever learn? Jul 16 09:35
DaemonFCIf people still hate Windows 9, they'll have the "Windows 10 promotion machine" while underway, and then they'll have another tool at their disposal. "Windows 7 is almost end of life. You don't have a choice." Jul 16 09:42
DaemonFCwellJul 16 09:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux for cars: Automotive Grade Linux rivalsJul 16 09:44
TweetTuxMachines                 CarPlay and Android Auto http://t.co/GPXjoAjxU7Jul 16 09:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 09:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489332511827177472Jul 16 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux for cars: Automotive Grade Linux rivals CarPlay and Android Auto | Tux MachinesJul 16 09:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Seagate rolls out NAS range with its ownJul 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux-based operating systemJul 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1GntzM8edW (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489332512552792066Jul 16 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Seagate rolls out NAS range with its own Linux-based operating system | Tux MachinesJul 16 09:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2 expected in 2017, FoundationJul 16 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 focussed on software for nowJul 16 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/k1jHHcdCyf (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 10:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489332513332928512Jul 16 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 2 expected in 2017, Foundation focussed on software for now | Tux MachinesJul 16 10:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel to ship Galileo Gen2 open-source computerJul 16 10:09
TweetTuxMachines                 in August for $60 http://t.co/Dvgoa0IaLVJul 16 10:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 10:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489342500251762688Jul 16 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel to ship Galileo Gen2 open-source computer in August for $60 | Tux MachinesJul 16 10:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cloud, open source power TransLink's WebJul 16 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 presence http://t.co/OU9CEAqKQOJul 16 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 10:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489342500981571585Jul 16 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cloud, open source power TransLink's Web presence | Tux MachinesJul 16 10:18
DaemonFChttps://wiki.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/CurrentBudgetFAQJul 16 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.gnome.org | FoundationBoard/CurrentBudgetFAQ - GNOME Wiki!Jul 16 10:25
*DaemonFC head desksJul 16 10:25
DaemonFCThey're out of cash because they spent too much on the Outreach Program for Women?Jul 16 10:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crowdfunding for open source softwareJul 16 10:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YdEuDJ3tRm (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 10:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489342501715574784Jul 16 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Crowdfunding for open source software | Tux MachinesJul 16 10:27
DaemonFChttp://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.13.3.phpJul 16 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kde.org | KDE - KDE Ships July Updates to Applications, Platform and Plasma WorkspacesJul 16 11:08
DaemonFCA whole bunch of old Konqueror/KHTML bugs got closed.Jul 16 11:10
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189774Jul 16 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189774 )Jul 16 11:10
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274534Jul 16 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274534 )Jul 16 11:10
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279241Jul 16 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279241 )Jul 16 11:10
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301588Jul 16 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301588 )Jul 16 11:11
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336041Jul 16 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336041 )Jul 16 11:11
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336046Jul 16 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336046 )Jul 16 11:11
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336940Jul 16 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336940 )Jul 16 11:11
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337000Jul 16 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337000 )Jul 16 11:11
DaemonFChttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337008Jul 16 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=337008 )Jul 16 11:11
DaemonFCIt's nice to see them fixing up some of this before they leave KDE 4 behind.Jul 16 11:11
DaemonFC5 bugs were fixed in KDE Plasma Workspaces 4.11.11 and 55 were fixed in Applications 4.13.3.Jul 16 11:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How open source can solve Silicon Valley'sJul 16 12:55
TweetTuxMachines                 engineering crisis http://t.co/I8P7MX3MelJul 16 12:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 12:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489342502655119361Jul 16 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How open source can solve Silicon Valley's engineering crisis | Tux MachinesJul 16 12:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DistroWatch resolves its domain registrarJul 16 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 problems http://t.co/FyuVZkfXKyJul 16 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 13:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489342503317815296Jul 16 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DistroWatch resolves its domain registrar problems | Tux MachinesJul 16 13:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Next Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE)Jul 16 13:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Versions May Be Built Only On The StableJul 16 13:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Versions Of Debian http://t.co/dCjtecWSIlJul 16 13:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 13:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/489353356716941312Jul 16 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Next Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) Versions May Be Built Only On The Stable Versions Of Debian | Tux MachinesJul 16 13:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/UGbk6X6b5PJul 16 19:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 19:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrh1jJul 16 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 16 19:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/7QzVyrUaAlJul 16 19:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 19:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrh28Jul 16 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 16 19:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Applications and Platform 4.13.3 Is theJul 16 19:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Last Update in the SeriesJul 16 19:53
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/HoU27XNpWh (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 19:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrh2nJul 16 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Applications and Platform 4.13.3 Is the Last Update in the Series | Tux MachinesJul 16 19:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/T3oEzUkbrQJul 16 19:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 16 19:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hrh2xJul 16 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux MachinesJul 16 19:54
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 16 19:58
DaemonFCWindows is a great way to see more of your family outside of the holiday seasons. Jul 16 19:58
DaemonFCJust give them a laptop with Windows on it for Christmas, and they'll be breaking down your door all the time asking you to un**** it for them. ;)Jul 16 19:58
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 16 19:58
DaemonFCI knew good things were in the pipeline when Google bought Android and I heard "linux" and "phone", Jul 16 19:58
DaemonFCIt felt like I waited forever to have the opportunity to buy a smartphone, because none existed before that. Jul 16 19:58
DaemonFCI'm watching Firefox OS, but right now it still sounds a lot like the first iPhone, where it was just a web browser on a phone and Jobs was all like "Apps!? We don't need apps!". Bleh!Jul 16 19:58
MinceRhuh? smartphones existed long before thatJul 16 19:59
MinceRtreos, for exampleJul 16 20:01
DaemonFCWhat's a treos?Jul 16 20:09
MinceRplural of treo.Jul 16 20:31
abeNd-orgoh the old Treos were greatJul 16 20:33
abeNd-org650 was the first great smartphoneJul 16 20:33
abeNd-orgpalm lacked in the marketing dept, which was kinda sadJul 16 20:34
MinceRindeedJul 16 20:37
MinceRalso kinda sad when they licensed a kernel that could multitask but didn't pay enough for multitaskingJul 16 20:38
MinceRand so they couldn't multitask when symbian couldJul 16 20:38
DaemonFCThat sucks. Why couldn't they just use a Free kernel?Jul 16 20:38
MinceRdunnoJul 16 20:38
MinceRthey would have used one in Palm OS 6Jul 16 20:38
MinceRbut that didn't happenJul 16 20:39
MinceRthey came up with webOS insteadJul 16 20:39
MinceRbut that had a free kernel too :>Jul 16 20:39
DaemonFCThat's always funny when a company has a product that could be good, but they nickel and dime it to death and they tank.Jul 16 20:39
MinceRindeedJul 16 20:42
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_TreoJul 16 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Palm Treo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJul 16 20:51
DaemonFCWindows Mobile Jul 16 20:52
DaemonFCBlecth!Jul 16 20:52
MinceRnormally they shipped Palm OS, thoughJul 16 20:52
MinceRfunny how they had to shrink the screen for the winblows versions because poor little winblows mobile couldn't handle more than 320x240 pixelsJul 16 20:52
MinceRtypical microsoft scalability.Jul 16 20:53
abeNd-orgthe centro was a great phoneJul 16 20:57
abeNd-orgthe last palmos 5.x, & solid little phone tooJul 16 20:57
abeNd-orgit was "small" but the keyboard was still plenty usableJul 16 20:57
abeNd-org& it could survive mother in laws running theirs through the wash twiceJul 16 20:57
abeNd-org3rd time killed the batteryJul 16 20:57
abeNd-orgthen we got her a palm pixi, she did the same thing to it too, it lasted through 2 washings & the 3rd killed the mic/speakers/battery, but the device would still power onJul 16 20:58
MinceRi don't know why people treat their phones so harshlyJul 16 21:00
abeNd-orgknock on particle board, ive never broken one of mineJul 16 21:03
abeNd-orgthe MiL's excuse is the centro/pixi were so light she didnt notice them in her pockets, & she is a taller woman so those phone were pretty smallJul 16 21:03
abeNd-orgso now shes got an iphone with one of those obnoxiously large gorilla casesJul 16 21:04
abeNd-orgbut when she had the centro/pixi she used them, so they werent a problem for an "elderly" personJul 16 21:04
MinceRi did have a phone the hinge mechanism in which broke the thing from the insideJul 16 21:04
abeNd-orgthe iphone though her brother suggested, she cant stand :PJul 16 21:04
MinceRit might have had a crack prior to it though, i'm not sureJul 16 21:05
MinceRhttp://www.szeretlekmagyarorszag.hu/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/asp_620_kerekessz.jpgJul 16 21:07
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schestowitzhehJul 16 21:29
DaemonFCJapa Mala Illo My hexchat experience is too awesome, I can't handle it. Do you have a fix for that?Jul 16 21:33
DaemonFCHexChat Um, how about... switching to mIRC for a while?Jul 16 21:33
DaemonFCLOLJul 16 21:33
abeNd-orgpidgin ftw!Jul 16 21:33
MinceRlolJul 16 21:34
abeNd-orgsync my profiles/settings/etc cross platform via dropboxJul 16 21:34
schestowitzDaemonFC: thanks for the screenshots, will use them soonJul 16 21:34
abeNd-orgseriously, pidgin is great, i have aim/yahoo/msn/skype/multiple irc networks/steam/google chat/groupwise IM all in one interfaceJul 16 21:34
DaemonFCabeNd-org, Have you heard of Telepathy?Jul 16 21:35
DaemonFCIt has the Haze plug-in too, so it can tap into libpurple.Jul 16 21:36
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abeNd-orgno,i haventJul 16 21:36
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abeNd-orgdoesnt look crossplatformJul 16 21:37
DaemonFCIt has a frontend for GNOME and KDE that I know of.Jul 16 21:38
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy_(software)Jul 16 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Telepathy (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/hrhir ]Jul 16 21:38
abeNd-orgyea, but for work i still have to use windows, no matter how much people here hate it, it still dominates the enterpriseJul 16 21:39
MinceRthe enterprise does not consist entirely of desktop pc-sJul 16 21:41
MinceRand some enterprises have minimal winblows usageJul 16 21:41
abeNd-orgall the ones i work for doJul 16 21:41
MinceRsucks to be themJul 16 21:41
abeNd-orgwell, going back to financial apps, there are no alternatives on linux for the likes of http://www.cchgroup.com/roles/accounting-firms/prosystem-fxJul 16 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cchgroup.com | ProSystem fx® Suite [ http://ur1.ca/hrhjb ]Jul 16 21:42
abeNd-orgso, there is no way they could use linux if they wanted toJul 16 21:42
MinceRyeah, there's no way such software could be developed for GNU/LinuxJul 16 21:43
MinceRor ported to itJul 16 21:43
MinceRright?Jul 16 21:43
MinceRalso, wine doesn't existJul 16 21:43
abeNd-orgdeveloper wont port to linux & doesnt support it running on wine, already askedJul 16 21:43
MinceRthen they'll be beaten by somebody who willJul 16 21:44
abeNd-org& when it comes to dealing with company/rich individual taxes, you dont want to screw up thingsJul 16 21:44
MinceRexactlyJul 16 21:44
MinceRso you don't want to run microsoft softwareJul 16 21:44
abeNd-orgso far no one has even talked about linux alternativesJul 16 21:44
MinceRso they do want to screw up things, after allJul 16 21:45
MinceRgood for themJul 16 21:45
abeNd-orgso, if there is no linux alternative, & none on the horizon, you cant use a non-existent linux productJul 16 21:45
MinceRyeah, it's not like a business could pay someone to develop a new productJul 16 21:46
MinceRsuch things never happen.Jul 16 21:46
abeNd-orgyes, but you have full vendor support running it in a supported environment, and if something is hosed up, it is on the vendor's head. if i were to run this in linux/wine, it would be on my headJul 16 21:46
abeNd-orgyes, sure, someone *could*, but no one *has*Jul 16 21:46
MinceRinteresting how that vendor believes they can support an environment that is under microsoft's controlJul 16 21:46
abeNd-orgfeel free to email & ask them about itJul 16 21:47
MinceRi don't care that muchJul 16 21:47
abeNd-orgi already have & they said no linux, not even on the back endJul 16 21:47
MinceRi'm not the customerJul 16 21:47
MinceRif they insist on being incompetent, maybe it will doom them one day, maybe it won'tJul 16 21:47
abeNd-org& that is just one example, http://www.shelbysystems.com/ is another example that is pure windows, & there is no linux alternativeJul 16 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.shelbysystems.com | Church Management Software | Shelby Systems - Shelby Systems : Church Management SoftwareJul 16 21:48
MinceRi'm sure lots of businessed to church managementJul 16 21:48
MinceRs/d to/s do/Jul 16 21:48
abeNd-orgI have plenty of linux back end servers for file/print/dns/dhcp/etc at different customers, but if the product is mssql based, then it is going to be on windows, & if there is no alternative, then you are stuck with windowsJul 16 21:49
MinceRif the product is mssql based then it's going to suckJul 16 21:49
MinceRi've used mssql once and it was enough for lifeJul 16 21:49
abeNd-organother one that is windows only & there is no linux (server or client) alternative http://www.librarica.com/Jul 16 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.librarica.com | CASSIE and SPOT - Public Computer and Printer ManagementJul 16 21:51
abeNd-orgid love some patron management software that can manage windows/linux/osx with a windows or linux backend & is SIP2 compliant so it can dovetail properly into http://evergreen-ils.org/egdownloads/ (which actually does have a linux backend & windows/linux clients)Jul 16 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-evergreen-ils.org | Evergreen Downloads | Evergreen ILSJul 16 21:53
abeNd-orgeven simple things like the management software to access points http://www.ubnt.com/download/ run apache for windows, but don't have a linux versionJul 16 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubnt.com | Ubiquiti Networks - DownloadsJul 16 21:56
MinceRsome of it will probably be taken care of by the cloud hypeJul 16 21:56
MinceRafter all, if your clients are just using a web browser, it doesn't matter that much if they move to a different platformJul 16 21:56
abeNd-orgright, & a lot of that cloud will be windows poweredJul 16 21:56
MinceRunlikelyJul 16 21:56
abeNd-orgagain, if there isnt a linux version of it, you cant run it in linuxJul 16 21:57
MinceRagain, if your business needs a GNU/Linux version, it will have one madeJul 16 21:57
abeNd-orgwhy would a company spend its own money for someone to create a full featured enterprise app when one that does everything they need already exists?Jul 16 21:58
MinceRthe company would have to spend its own money on it anywayJul 16 21:58
abeNd-orgforget the platform, it doesnt make sense to build from scratchJul 16 21:58
MinceRnotice how these companies all want to sell itJul 16 21:58
MinceRit made sense to build from scratch for the ones you're linking toJul 16 21:58
MinceRafaik those markets aren't barred to newcomers yetJul 16 21:59
abeNd-orgi know a lot of auto dealerships around here all had customer built auto software, some windows, some linux, most have quit developing it & moved to the ADP platform because it had way more options than their internally maintained ever didJul 16 21:59
abeNd-org& the ADP platform is on windows for the backend, & while the front end is webbased it still uses .net for windowsJul 16 22:00
abeNd-org& those that did have linux custom backends only had windows clients, because everything else in the business at the client level ran on windowsJul 16 22:01
MinceRpreach on, i've got to get some sleep nowJul 16 22:03
abeNd-orgas i said, ive got plenty of linux back endJul 16 22:04
abeNd-orgbut if there isnt linux software for task X, then i cant use linux for itJul 16 22:04
MinceRas i said, if i'm a business, and i need GNU/Linux software for task X, i'll have GNU/Linux software for task XJul 16 22:05
MinceRthat's how business worksJul 16 22:05
abeNd-orgthen there isnt much demand for GNU/Linux software for common enterprise tasksJul 16 22:06
abeNd-org^outside of the server roomJul 16 22:06
MinceRmicrosoft is working on thatJul 16 22:06
MinceRcase in point: vista, 7, 8Jul 16 22:06
abeNd-orgaccounting/hr/etcJul 16 22:06
abeNd-orgwell, no one has stepped up as of yet to provide a meaningful GNU/Linux alternative to any of the softwares ive mentionedJul 16 22:07
abeNd-orgif they did, & companies thought it usable, they would have bought itJul 16 22:08
abeNd-orgor, dared to go the self support route if there was no company behind the opensource versionJul 16 22:09
abeNd-org& sometimes even with opensource versions that work just fine there is no business buy inJul 16 22:09
abeNd-orgi deployed dotproject, ldap enabled it for logins, etc as an alternative to buying msproject/project server for all the managersJul 16 22:09
abeNd-orgthey tried it for a few days, said no, & submitted the PO for msprojectJul 16 22:10
abeNd-orgsame with openfire/spark, great IM server, but doesnt hold a candle optionwise to things like GroupwiseIM, lotus sametime, or microsoft lyncJul 16 22:13
abeNd-orgive done plenty of ldap enabled openfire servers against AD & eDirectory, worked great, but users wanted more options than it could provideJul 16 22:14
MinceRyeah, AD was so great when it forgot my passwordJul 16 22:15
MinceRso was exchange when it delivered my mail into the trash for a week, and then deleted themJul 16 22:15
MinceRcompanies will go with microsoft if they don't mind losing their dataJul 16 22:16
MinceRit's their problemJul 16 22:16
abeNd-orgi havent seen ad or edir forget a users password, seen plenty of pebkac issues along those lines though :PJul 16 22:16
abeNd-orgbut ive seen every mail system hose up, google apps (not talking gmail), exchange, lotus notes, groupwise (be it on windows, linux, or netware)Jul 16 22:17
MinceRmust have been pebkac that a password stored in various places suddenly wasn't considered correctJul 16 22:17
MinceRmust be a lot simpler explanation than a single point of failure, right?Jul 16 22:18
abeNd-orgim not sure what was hosed up in that particular AD enviroment, not saying it couldnt have done it, im just saying i havent seen it in the many networks ive worked withJul 16 22:18