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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/diikjngaVvJul 20 01:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 20 01:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/mstxUGA529Jul 20 01:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 20 01:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/vTvzTgYM1bJul 20 01:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJul 20 01:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tor, trust and the NSA http://t.co/UBSaTaulQyJul 20 05:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tor, trust and the NSA | Tux MachinesJul 20 05:00
TweetTuxMachines@baseanswers     ODF(tm) World News is out!Jul 20 05:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/S29whiAs5w (paper.li) Stories viaJul 20 05:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paper.li | ODF™ World NewsJul 20 05:00
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx20DX5GEB7TUX8&cdMsgID=Mx3CNEQTLD0OBRC&cdMsgNo=77&cdPage=4&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx2719CL36XLD7S#Mx3CNEQTLD0OBRCJul 20 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: iphone 5 crashed,anyone recommend anything?? [ http://ur1.ca/hsgjp ]Jul 20 10:42
DaemonFC"I have a feeling that when you try to install OS X "Mavericks" on your pre-2007 Mac and find that Apple has deprecated something that you still might use every day, they're not going to help you do anything other than buy an expensive new Mac.Jul 20 10:43
DaemonFCLinux still runs on all Macs. Even the Core Solo Mac Mini from 2006. Jul 20 10:43
DaemonFCYou don't have to wait for Apple to declare your hardware deprecated to upgrade to Linux though. Linux is for everybody. Your Mac will almost certainly even be faster than it was before after the upgrade. It's not like GNOME and KDE don't have their $20,000 toilet seats in terms of components that use system resources just because they want to behave more like Windows and Mac, but there are lots of options! Even the most piggish Linux Jul 20 10:43
DaemonFCdesktop environment (KDE) is nowhere near as bad as Windows on resource usage.Jul 20 10:43
DaemonFChttp://www.howtogeek.com/163154/linux-users-have-a-choice-8-linux-desktop-environments/Jul 20 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | Linux Users Have a Choice: 8 Linux Desktop Environments [ http://ur1.ca/dx9jg ]Jul 20 10:43
DaemonFCThe real sticking points that will keep me from buying a Mac are the obscene price, the bad Apple software, and the fact that the hardware is frequently underpowered and impossible to upgrade or service by me, the end user. This comes together to create a relatively short usable life for a Mac computer. You're better off with Linux on PC."Jul 20 10:43
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 11:11
DaemonFCThe Android One will only be $100. The iPhone 5c is $549.Jul 20 11:11
DaemonFCFor that price, you could buy five Android Ones, smash four of them, and still be $50 ahead.Jul 20 11:11
DaemonFC78% of all smartphone sales are <$200. Jul 20 11:13
DaemonFCAt the extreme low end, some people buy Windows phones because Microsoft is selling them below cost to try to create a market for them. Microsoft has tried introducing Windows phones with better specs. I've never seen anyone buy them. Jul 20 11:13
DaemonFCAndroid One will be the end of Windows Phone.Jul 20 11:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Android One phone landing in October?Jul 20 11:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Android One phone landing in October? | Tux MachinesJul 20 11:14
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DaemonFCSomeone told me that Amazon made a Kindle "cloud reader" web app that runs in modern web browsers. I've never used Kindle before because of the Digital Restrictions Management[1], but I decided that since there would be no software to install, and Amazon does have some "free" books to test it out with, I thought I would give it a spin, just for kicks.Jul 20 12:30
DaemonFCThanks Amazon.Jul 20 12:30
DaemonFCThis is the most flagrant abuse of Javascript I've ever seen. Actually, it's not Javascript. It's more like "Obfuscript", to make it more difficult to figure out how their DRM works, so that you can't copy and paste text.Jul 20 12:30
DaemonFCCould you have possibly made this stupid thing any slower?Jul 20 12:30
DaemonFCYour coding horror made my quad core desktop computer feel like I was trying to scroll through a Microsoft Office file on a 300 Mhz Pentium 2.Jul 20 12:30
DaemonFC[1] http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon-kindle-swindleJul 20 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.defectivebydesign.org | Amazon's Kindle Swindle | Defective by Design [ http://ur1.ca/1bjp3 ]Jul 20 12:30
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsKRTiGmHJoJul 20 12:57
DaemonFCLG G3 vs. iPhone 5sJul 20 12:57
DaemonFCI loved the part where the iPhone screen was sharper and easier to read when viewed through the LG G3's camera than it was by looking directly at the iPhone's screen.Jul 20 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | LG G3 vs. iPhone 5S - Review (4K) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/hsh3x ]Jul 20 12:57
Sosumidon’t install gnu/linux on core macJul 20 13:08
Sosumivoltage regulation on those machines is done through the smcJul 20 13:08
Sosumiand without the smc driver you’ll end up frying the cpuJul 20 13:08
Sosumijust like don’t install windows on those machines without the apple provided bootcamp driverJul 20 14:00
Sosumior you’ll get the same problemJul 20 14:00
DaemonFC WakkyWabbit says:Jul 20 14:11
DaemonFCDobbs,Jul 20 14:11
DaemonFCInteresting. I have the app on a somewhat old and slow 10 inch netbook with one of those Atom processors and it is also on my SG3 phone. On both devices, the app works great and is as fast as all three of my Kindles. Jul 20 14:11
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 14:11
DaemonFCI have a Phenom II X4 945 and a Geforce 560 GTX and Amazon's cloud reader is so slow, it's like scrolling through a web page using the VESA driver from Windows XP.Jul 20 14:11
DaemonFCMaybe I'll use Kindle when Amazon lets me save a file to my hard drive and open it up in Evince, without all this laggy encumbering Kindle garbage layered on top, so that you can't retain data that you paid for.Jul 20 14:11
DaemonFCSeriously. I played Skyrim under Wine on this thing recently, but books lag? Jul 20 14:11
DaemonFCThis is clearly a regression. Real books don't render slowly and require piss poor software in order to read them. I also know that I can keep my real books forever, regardless of what Amazon's future business plans are. Jul 20 14:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/s8vdj2ucvNJul 20 14:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 14:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 20 14:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "I'll Be Back" -- After Reviving Meego Dreams,Jul 20 14:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Jolla Preps for India LaunchJul 20 14:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | "I'll Be Back" -- After Reviving Meego Dreams, Jolla Preps for India Launch | Tux MachinesJul 20 14:44
MinceRgeekingsJul 20 15:23
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 15:37
DaemonFCNo. They *should* just use the simplest solution that works, which is to give me the damned file.Jul 20 15:37
DaemonFCThis isn't the fastest machine in the world, but it's still faster than, say, a $1,100 iMac.Jul 20 15:37
DaemonFCIt still kicks some butt as far I I'm concerned. I still game on it. GNOME is fast and buttery smooth. Video playback is fantastic. Applications load at the snap of a finger.Jul 20 15:37
DaemonFCI just wish people would ditch proprietary software that is designed to be treacherous and bloated, and to backstab their customer.Jul 20 15:37
DaemonFCThen computers would work well and we wouldn't need to say things like "Damned computers. Why doesn't this work as well as what we had before?". Jul 20 15:37
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 15:37
DaemonFCThe people running Amazon's Kindle store, and people who publish to it boil down to two kinds.Jul 20 15:37
DaemonFC1. They are ignorant.Jul 20 15:37
DaemonFCorJul 20 15:37
DaemonFC2. They're bad people who are doing disgusting things.Jul 20 15:37
DaemonFCI generally prefer to think that most of them are #1s, because then they're simply misguided and don't fully appreciate the harm that they are causing, vs. #2s, who are just bastards. Jul 20 15:37
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 15:57
DaemonFCIs there a list, somewhere, of all the books available without Digital Restrictions Malware, so I know who I can do business with just by looking at a particular page?Jul 20 15:57
DaemonFCBy the way, I'm obviously very serious here. If I wanted the book, there are easier ways. Since Amazon is stopping me from doing business with them, and acquiring it without DRM might involve something equally dishonest as a publisher that uses DRM in the first place, and two wrongs don't make a right, I suppose that I'll just have to go to the library and/or continue buying old fashioned books.Jul 20 15:57
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DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 16:10
DaemonFCPeople who tell me to chuck my PC and downgrade to a Mac should be slapped severely.Jul 20 16:10
DaemonFCThe only excuse for using a Mac is if you're a 90 year old woman. And maybe not even then.Jul 20 16:10
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MinceRhttps://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8258956800/hAF35629C/Jul 20 17:08
DaemonFCSomeone said that my system is a kludge.Jul 20 17:09
DaemonFCI replied....Jul 20 17:09
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 17:09
DaemonFCYou're the one that told me to get a Mac.Jul 20 17:09
DaemonFCGizmodo reviewed the 2013 Mac Mini and had to go back to Half Life 2 (2004) to find a game that it could handle.Jul 20 17:09
DaemonFCThat's pathetic. For a $1,050 computer? Apple should kill themselves for this. It probably wouldn't know whether to **** or wind its wristwatch if you tried to run something from this decade on it.Jul 20 17:09
DaemonFCApple's the one that's kludging the crap out of their systems. Who cares if it has a fast CPU if you're stuck with integrated video and the hard drive is a dog? Really. Who wants that system? It's one of the most unbalanced systems I've seen. People buy these? Jul 20 17:09
SosumilolJul 20 17:25
SosumiI have no idea why bother with the macJul 20 17:25
Sosuminone of their machines allow for agpu swap nowJul 20 17:25
Sosumifolks with the trashcan pro, what if one of you rebranded underclocked radeon HD 7970 goes belly up?Jul 20 17:26
Sosumi*yourJul 20 17:26
Sosumistay without the computer for a weekJul 20 17:26
SosumilolJul 20 17:26
Sosumiand say goodbye to aftermarket updatesJul 20 17:27
Sosumifolks with the 2006 mac pro can still run mavericks with a hack in order for the installer to run on efi 32 bit machinesJul 20 17:28
Sosumiand have been able to swap their gpus for better ones all this timeJul 20 17:28
Sosumippl with the trashcan pro are already stuck in the pastJul 20 17:29
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Sosumialso on ukraineJul 20 17:29
SosumiUkranian army has been seen moving Buk launchpads across some parts of the countryJul 20 17:30
Sosumiwhat happened? apparently and untrained crew shot the airplane by accidentJul 20 17:30
Sosumi*anJul 20 17:30
Sosumiwhich kind of doesn’t make any sense since the pro russia forces in the field don’t have planesJul 20 17:31
Sosumiunless the fold them with paperJul 20 17:31
Sosumi*theyJul 20 17:31
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4432402Jul 20 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft could not destroy mobile #linux with a mole & bribe because it's multi-headed. Now even words (bribes to Gartner & IDC) helped.Jul 20 17:53
schestowitz"^^ multi threaded?? or multi headed?"Jul 20 17:54
schestowitzLots of distros and branches, so headsJul 20 17:54
schestowitz"I guess it mean there's Android, Meego, Tizen, etc."Jul 20 17:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4432298Jul 20 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #obama overplays one dead American [sic] (US) because apparently 200 dead Dutch are not the Good Guys http://www.whdh.com/story/26053935/obama-plane-shot-down-by-missile-1-american-deadJul 20 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.whdh.com | Obama: Malaysian Plane shot down by missile, 1 American dead - 7News Boston WHDH-TV [ http://ur1.ca/hsie4 ]Jul 20 17:55
schestowitz"But he likes killing americans with his drones - and watching "live" as an old man is shot in the face."Jul 20 17:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4432238Jul 20 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "US administration sought to pin the blame on separatists and Russia without waiting for...an investigation." http://www.asianage.com/international/russia-us-implicating-rebels-674Jul 20 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.asianage.com | Russia: US implicating rebels | The Asian Age [ http://ur1.ca/hsiee ]Jul 20 17:56
schestowitz"Not like you to just quote verbatim a government official as evidence. All you are doing is being a Russian spokesperson. If there is evidence, the Russians are sure taking their sweet time revealing them. Here's a compilation of evidence against the rebels by The Guardian."Jul 20 17:56
schestowitzWhen the Ukranian Nazis did their atrocities the Guardian not only did Russophobic propaganda but also deleted tons of comments it did not agree with, so I am still very careful and sceptical when it comes to its coverage in this region.Jul 20 17:57
schestowitzhttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/mh17-evidence-against-russiaJul 20 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | MH17: the evidence against Russia | World news | The Observer [ http://ur1.ca/hsiem ]Jul 20 17:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4431976Jul 20 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #china is having a field day http://www.chinapost.com.tw/commentary/the-china-post/arthur-cyr/2014/07/20/412783/US-intelligence.htm #nsa #espionage #surveillanceJul 20 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.chinapost.com.tw | US intelligence blunders pile up - The China Post [ http://ur1.ca/hsiet ]Jul 20 17:58
schestowitz"That's Taiwan - which makes it even more interesting."Jul 20 17:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Indian phone makers look to penetrate RussiaJul 20 18:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2dn4l9ATVo (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 18:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Indian phone makers look to penetrate Russia | Tux MachinesJul 20 18:28
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DaemonFCThe #1 best selling desktop on Amazon is now the Chromebox, and the #1 laptop is the Chromebook.Jul 20 19:02
DaemonFCThe price is an eyecatcher, I guess. Jul 20 19:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     EFF releases experimental open wireless routerJul 20 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 firmware http://t.co/41YJLnslZUJul 20 19:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EFF releases experimental open wireless router firmware | Tux MachinesJul 20 19:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Geary Is Getting Ready to Take ThunderbirdJul 20 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Head-On http://t.co/VKmCciJe2PJul 20 19:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Geary Is Getting Ready to Take Thunderbird Head-On | Tux MachinesJul 20 19:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Issues Final Warning for Ubuntu OneJul 20 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Closure, Get Your Files NowJul 20 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/yI0VtLcVRp (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 19:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hsizsJul 20 19:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Issues Final Warning for Ubuntu One Closure, Get Your Files Now | Tux MachinesJul 20 19:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BitKey: A secure, Debian-based Live OS forJul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines                 bitcoin transactions http://t.co/EEfL5Nokh0Jul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 20:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BitKey: A secure, Debian-based Live OS for bitcoin transactions | Tux MachinesJul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Geneva class-rooms switching to free softwareJul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/mjdKBpKpW2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hsj6hJul 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Geneva class-rooms switching to free software | Tux MachinesJul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian 6.0.10 "Squeeze" Is Out and It's theJul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Last Point Release http://t.co/hXLN9h2TFuJul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hsj6jJul 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 6.0.10 "Squeeze" Is Out and It's the Last Point Release | Tux MachinesJul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma Active Continues Coming For Qt5/KF5Jul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wfgbxTJur8 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 20:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hsj6kJul 20 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma Active Continues Coming For Qt5/KF5 | Tux MachinesJul 20 20:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Duke Nukem 3D: Megaton Beta Update Now UsesJul 20 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 SDL2 http://t.co/fKAnhKf49xJul 20 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 20:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Duke Nukem 3D: Megaton Beta Update Now Uses SDL2 | Tux MachinesJul 20 20:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Change the default search engine in Epiphany,Jul 20 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 the GNOME Web applicationJul 20 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YQpi9u2lBO (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 20:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hsjcmJul 20 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Change the default search engine in Epiphany, the GNOME Web application | Tux MachinesJul 20 20:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     My way to develop with git in KDE reposJul 20 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/DQ9Ogjrc2Y (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 20:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hsjcnJul 20 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My way to develop with git in KDE repos | Tux MachinesJul 20 20:58
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schestowitzolder :Jul 20 22:37
schestowitz" it taught me that the adage that a grand jury willJul 20 22:37
schestowitzindict a ham sandwich is an understatement. A betterJul 20 22:37
schestowitzdescription would be that the prosecution can show aJul 20 22:37
schestowitzgrand jury a shit sandwich and they will indict it asJul 20 22:37
schestowitzham without looking up from their newspapers."Jul 20 22:37
schestowitzhttp://www.popehat.com/2014/02/27/the-kaley-forfeiture-decision-what-it-looks-like-when-the-feds-make-their-ham-sandwich/Jul 20 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popehat.com | The Kaley Forfeiture Decision: What It Looks Like When The Feds Make Their Ham Sandwich | [ http://ur1.ca/hsjyn ]Jul 20 22:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top 5 Linux Gaming EmulatorsJul 20 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VkxN649XhK (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 20 22:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/hsjzuJul 20 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 5 Linux Gaming Emulators | Tux MachinesJul 20 22:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The DragonBox Pyra Moves Closer As OpenPandoraJul 20 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Successor http://t.co/YitSptEDu6Jul 20 22:45
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DaemonFChttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Finland-Microsoft-Betrayed-Us-with-So-Many-Job-Cuts-451343.shtmlJul 21 00:54
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4433975Jul 21 04:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When #Detroit Shuts Off the Water of 100,000 People http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/07/what-happens-when-detroit-shuts-off-the-water-of-100000-people/374548/ killing its young, people who do hardest (physical) jobsJul 21 04:58
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schestowitz"US people must be enjoying savage capitalism as Soviets must have enjoyed savage communism. Russia is not communist anymore, would the US reconsider its system?"Jul 21 04:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4432238Jul 21 04:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "US administration sought to pin the blame on separatists and Russia without waiting for...an investigation." http://www.asianage.com/international/russia-us-implicating-rebels-674Jul 21 04:58
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schestowitz"Sure. But then there is parroting the Russian government rather than confronting the evidence so far."Jul 21 04:58
schestowitz"I don't see Roy blaming anyone but those quick to conclude without ecidence."Jul 21 04:59
schestowitz"He isn't blaming anyone. Merely restating the Russian statement in preference over the evidence of non-cooperation."Jul 21 04:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4433910Jul 21 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #uk ‘Friendly Wi-Fi’ a euphemism for #censorship to "protect the children" http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/friendly-wi-fi-aims-stop-porn-access-public-hotspots-149347 rejecting censorship is being unfriendly?Jul 21 04:59
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schestowitz"Think of the children."Jul 21 04:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4431640Jul 21 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Op-Ed: Microsoft layoff e-mail typifies inhuman corporate insensitivity http://arstechnica.com/staff/2014/07/op-ed-microsoft-layoff-e-mail-typifies-inhuman-corporate-insensitivity/ #microsoft a socipathJul 21 05:00
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schestowitz"That's a very typical US way of doing things, people is not made redundant that way in my country."Jul 21 05:00
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4434038Jul 21 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: One day in the future people may ask, when did the #uk become unhinged on law, Magna Carta etc. We live in interesting times...Jul 21 05:01
schestowitz"That's a Chinese curse you know. "May you live in interesting times"."Jul 21 05:01
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFCIt's not really my computer that is struggling if Amazon's software is just poorly designed.Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFCGoogle Docs does way more than Amazon Cloud Reader does, but Google Docs runs fine.Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFCYou can always come up with software that is so poorly built that it doesn't run on a reasonably configured PC.Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFCI'm not thrilled to still be using a PC that's 5 years old, save for a nice graphics card upgrade[1], but I don't really want to buy a new computer right at this very moment. I'm in kind of a holding pattern right now, trying to get more time out of what I'm using while hoping that someone comes and fixes the PC market mess with something that you can just buy and use. Windows and Mac are not what I'd call "usable". Sorry.Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFCThe two best outcomes that could save the PC are that Steam OS and/or Chrome OS pan out. I'll tell you my line of thinking on this.Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFCSteam Machines will be real computers, not just a video game console. You can boot out of Steam OS, which is a thin "Just Enough" OS built on Linux, which will be a great thing, because you will get better performance than Windows can give you. 1. Linux performs better than Windows anyway in a side by side comparison running the native version of identical games right now. 2. A JEOS like Steam OS will run them even better because it throws Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFCout all of the stuff you don't need for gaming.Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFCValve's CEO, Gabe Newell, promised that you can reboot the machine into any normal PC OS to get your "boring" stuff done, so if this pans out, I could have a badass gaming console, that can reboot into Fedora, and that's just cool!Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFCOn the other hand, we have Chrome OS, which is Chrome running in its own "JEOS" version of Linux, and since Chrome is a powerful development platform which is only going to get more powerful, I think it's not unreasonable to think that we're going to get Chrome PCs with lots of RAM, fast processors, and decent video cards at some point.Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFCEither way, I do believe that Linux is the OS of the future. The surge of Chrome OS to the #1 desktop on Amazon and the #1 laptop on Amazon kind of tells me that Windows and Mac are quickly becoming legacy operating systems, whose only defenders are like Japanese soldiers on an island in 1945 that didn't hear about how badly the war is going.Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFC[1] And a nice graphics card can save you from a "blah" CPU these days, but a terrible graphics chipset, like we find in Macs and Walmart PCs can never be compensated for by a good CPU, which makes it all the more puzzling as to why Apple insists on fast CPUs with brain damaged Intel graphics chipsets. Apple has always been hostile to video game publishers, like going out of its way to make sure that games don't run on the Mac. Jul 21 13:30
DaemonFCerr, boot to steam OS rather *edits*Jul 21 13:31
SosuminahJul 21 13:43
Sosumiyou can load gnome on steam osJul 21 13:43
Sosumiactually it comes pre-installedJul 21 13:43
Sosumiso if not neededJul 21 13:44
DaemonFC Hummingbirder says:Jul 21 13:44
DaemonFCMy next of kin wouldn't know what to do with a Zune.Jul 21 13:44
Sosumifolks can do everything from inside steam osJul 21 13:44
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 21 13:44
DaemonFCIt's OK son, nobody knows what to do with a Zune.Jul 21 13:44
DaemonFChttps://kbhomes.github.io/2012/02/13/mtpz-implementation.htmlJul 21 13:44
DaemonFCNow that the Microsoft software to sync the damned thing is abandoned, people who own one are up the creek without a paddle. I don't know what the most current situation is in regards to trying to get them to sync using other software, but from the looks of this article, Microsoft went very far out of its way to prevent that from happening.Jul 21 13:44
DaemonFCIf you want a portable media player, get one that has Mass Storage Class support, or keep walking. That's my opinion, of course, but I think it's ridiculous that you can't drag and drop files using your operating system's file manager on Zunes and iPods, while a cheap little Sandisk Sansa has always allowed this. No bloated crapware necessary. Get off my lawn! B-) Jul 21 13:44
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Sosumialso gpus on apple hardware are just crap offers from nvidiaJul 21 13:45
SosumiI mean IntelJul 21 13:45
Sosumibut crappy gpus across the boardJul 21 13:46
Sosumiimacs are still using gt700m series gpus from last yearJul 21 13:46
DaemonFCYeah. The performance went up when they moved the chipset off of the motherboard and onto the CPU, but they're still not a replacement for even the cheapest video cards.Jul 21 13:46
DaemonFChttp://www.macworld.com/article/1049652/minigraphics.htmlJul 21 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macworld.com | Keeping Mac mini's integrated graphics in perspective | Macworld [ http://ur1.ca/hspri ]Jul 21 13:50
DaemonFC"So, on Monday, February 27, an integrated graphics chip was something that stole power from the CPU and siphoned off system memory. As of February 28, it’s suddenly capable of supporting the latest 3-D games and is an incredible value proposition? Ah, marketing!"Jul 21 13:50
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 21 14:03
DaemonFCAnd Apple's statement about running Halo on a budget PC was pretty funny, because it ran OK on a budget PC. I know because I had a budget PC and Halo. :PJul 21 14:03
DaemonFCIt wasn't a particularly advanced game engine. It ran on the original XBOX for crying out loud. The PC version was better because the XBOX version had no networking capabilities. Apple probably used it as an example of what you could do on the PowerPC Mac because it was one of the only 3d games that you could actually buy for a Mac. Microsoft kept Bungie's promise that it would work on a Mac, but Mac users got it two months later than PC Jul 21 14:03
DaemonFCusers.Jul 21 14:03
DaemonFCProbably the only reason I got away with running Halo on my crappy Compaq that I had at the time was because the development target *was* a Mac. I still remember how butthurt Mac fanboys were when Microsoft bought Bungie, which was the only video game company that I'm aware of that ever *tried* to produce a Mac exclusive. (Notice how Halo 2 only runs on a Mac if you reboot it into at least Windows Vista, or maybe Windows XP if you apply the Jul 21 14:03
DaemonFCHalo 2 XP "patch", but that's unofficial, and YMMV. And even then, good luck, because they weren't aiming for your crappy Mac with this one.)Jul 21 14:03
DaemonFCI don't know. It's been enough years since Halo 2 PC came out that Intel integrated video in a Mac might be on par with a mediocre video card from 2006 by now. Anyone? Jul 21 14:03
DaemonFCApple's "budget" Macs are really nothing to write home about. It's budget PC performance at mid-range PC prices.Jul 21 14:08
DaemonFCA $450 HP Pavilion with an AMD A10 APU will happily blow the Mac Mini right out of the water.Jul 21 14:10
DaemonFCThat's how bad things are at the low end of the Mac market.Jul 21 14:10
DaemonFCSosumi, Well, the nice thing about waiting to buy a new computer is that the longer you wait, the better system you'll get at any price level.Jul 21 14:17
DaemonFCSo, I try to drag these things out until the last minute.Jul 21 14:17
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__martin__funny timing; another malaysian jet (this time full of aids experts instead of semiconductor scientists) make headlines right when mr. snowden gets published another interview on the guardian and calls for hackers via hangouts [surveilled] @ hope-x-nycJul 21 14:22
DaemonFCThe US and EU will "condemn" Putin for a while, do nothing about it, and the whole thing will blow over.Jul 21 14:23
__martin__public distortion in practise >> http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/19/we-cannot-unbundle-office-anymore/Jul 21 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | We Can No Longer Unbundle Microsoft Office [ http://ur1.ca/hsqzf ]Jul 21 14:24
__martin__our gov pushes for eid cards with reader; there is a client app for win xp/7/8 + reader IDBridge CT30 driver + signature app D.Signer/XAdES .. patheticJul 21 14:29
__martin__they missed the schedule for GNU/Linux and Mac OS X support by whole year or soJul 21 14:30
__martin__DaemonFC: are the Palestinians fighting back because there was no Jewish state prior to WW I (when the colonial winners drew the borders on a map) or is it "just" a deadly clash for freshwater sources?Jul 21 14:32
SosumiyepJul 21 14:40
Sosumibungie was a mac centric developerJul 21 14:40
Sosumiand probably the only oneJul 21 14:40
Sosumiuntil m$ bought themJul 21 14:40
Sosumiand changed the target platform for the xbox/windowsJul 21 14:41
Sosumithe mac port was later done by macsoftgames and published by gearboxJul 21 14:41
SosumiI have the mac version of halo actually, original and everythingJul 21 14:42
MinceRit seems that id became winblows-centric when they made a deal to target the xboxJul 21 14:42
Sosuminah, id has always been windows centricJul 21 14:42
Sosumitheir linux/mac ports were always handled by another companyJul 21 14:43
MinceRexcept when they developed their stuff for next and ported it to dosJul 21 14:43
MinceRand when they consistently targeted openglJul 21 14:43
Sosumiduring those times I wans’t even bornJul 21 14:43
Sosumi:)Jul 21 14:43
MinceR:)Jul 21 14:43
SosumiI’m not sure about using the mac gpus of the release of halo as bashing argumentJul 21 14:47
__martin__http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/60544/why-do-game-developers-prefer-windows/88055#88055Jul 21 14:47
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Sosumimacs during that time had gf 4 ti 4600, radeon 9800 pros and later with the introduction of the G5 Jul 21 14:48
__martin__"So Microsoft purchased a bit of middleware and fashioned it into Direct3D Version 3. It was universally reviled. And with good reason; looking at D3D v3 code is like staring into the Ark of the Covenant.Jul 21 14:48
Sosumi6800 ultrasJul 21 14:48
__martin__Old John Carmack at Id Software took one look at that trash and said, "Screw that!" and decided to write towards another API: OpenGL."Jul 21 14:48
MinceR:>Jul 21 14:48
Sosumionly the imacs had crappy gpusJul 21 14:48
Sosumithe crap gpus across the board only started in 2009Jul 21 14:50
DaemonFCI had a Radeon 9800 Pro paired with an Intel Celeron at the time.Jul 21 14:50
Sosumiwhen they released the mac pro with the hd4870Jul 21 14:50
Sosumiinstead of the gtx285Jul 21 14:50
DaemonFCI've noticed that a decent GPU can save you from a bad CPU in games, but a bad GPU means it doesn't matter what your CPU is.Jul 21 14:50
DaemonFCEven though the current higher end i7s are more than twice as fast as my Phenom II X4, when you go to load a game with an identical GPU on both systems, the i7 only brings the framerate up by 5-10% usually.Jul 21 14:51
DaemonFCI helps, but it's not where you should put your money.Jul 21 14:52
SosumiI only play quake 3 arenaJul 21 14:52
Sosumithere isn’t anything out there that really interests me anymoreJul 21 14:52
DaemonFCIn some cases, a current i5s are only a dual core CPU.Jul 21 14:53
Sosumiand I just use my computer for workJul 21 14:53
Sosumitesting with algos and so onJul 21 14:53
DaemonFCModern game engines can create extra threads to take advantage of more cores, so your performance could actually go down with a dual core i5.Jul 21 14:53
DaemonFCThere's just nothing really exciting about getting a new CPU these days.Jul 21 14:54
DaemonFCThey're twice as fast as ones that were already incredibly fast.Jul 21 14:54
Sosumiwait for the next intel tockJul 21 14:54
Sosumithat is what I’m doing now, before upgradingJul 21 14:55
Sosumifrom a i7 3970x into some 8 core versionJul 21 14:55
Sosumiwhen they come into the 999€ pricreangeJul 21 14:55
__martin__Sosumi: make sure you disable AMT (http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/active-management-technology) then.. also PRNG chip ;DJul 21 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | "Active Management Technology": The obscure remote control in some Intel hardware — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/hkerd ]Jul 21 14:57
Sosumii7 3970x is socket 2011Jul 21 14:59
__martin__1st gen core i3 in hereJul 21 14:59
Sosumithat you posted only applies to 1150sJul 21 14:59
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DaemonFCApple tries to keep people in the dark about their new products. The only way you know that a current model is about to be replaced by a newer one is when stores start running out of the older model.Jul 21 15:15
DaemonFCApple knows that when you announce a new product, that sales of the old version collapse, and they want to keep people paying full price for the old model all the way to the end.Jul 21 15:15
DaemonFCIt makes it difficult to plan an upgrade cycle when you don't even know when the new hardware will be out.Jul 21 15:15
Sosumilol, it was apple who kept the 2011 mac pro going for 3 years with no updates and no price decreaseJul 21 15:19
Sosumiand the sole reason they stopped selling it was because intel was going to stop manufacturing nehalem and westmere cpusJul 21 15:19
Sosumiand then they released the trashcan proJul 21 15:20
DaemonFCRight, so right now the Mac Mini is 165 days past the average time between releases.Jul 21 15:20
DaemonFCIt's the 2012 model, and it's still selling at full price.Jul 21 15:20
Sosumicrapple :)Jul 21 15:20
DaemonFCPeople who buy it will see that in a month or two, there will be a new model that's twice as fast for the same price.Jul 21 15:20
abeNd-orghehJul 21 15:20
abeNd-orgyes, but people keep buying it, otherwise apple wouldnt keep the price where it is atJul 21 15:20
abeNd-orgblame the same people who think they have a cousin who is a nigerian king that has millions for themJul 21 15:21
DaemonFCRight, so you buy the 2012 model, and then the new model comes out with a CPU that's very nearly twice as fast, and maybe double the RAM and the same price. Who wouldn't feel stupid for that?Jul 21 15:21
abeNd-orgmost apple consumers wouldnt know the differenceJul 21 15:22
DaemonFCI know. The people who buy Apple in the first place.Jul 21 15:22
DaemonFCEven they must visit Apple.com now and then and see Apple bragging about how fast the new model is compared with the old one.Jul 21 15:22
DaemonFCAlso, Apple cuts off support for old products as quickly as they can, so buying the current Mac Mini means that you're already two years into its "life cycle", which means that if you wait and get the next model, you should be able to expect an additional 1-2 OS upgrades vs. buying this one.Jul 21 15:23
DaemonFCOnce Apple cuts off OS X upgrades, the pool of available software goes into immediate decline because they also rip out the ability for developers to target unsupported versions of Mac OS from XCode right away.Jul 21 15:24
DaemonFCSo, it's even more uncomfortable than continuing to use Windows XP.Jul 21 15:24
DaemonFCSo, even though you still have hardware that would be capable of running an office suite or a web browser, you can't even get current versions of those.Jul 21 15:25
DaemonFCI prefer for my PC to gracefully degrade. In other words, new software that actually needs new hardware might stop working, but software that doesn't won't.Jul 21 15:25
DaemonFCBecause most new software doesn't need particularly new hardware anyway.Jul 21 15:26
abeNd-orgi will have to say my work phone, an old 4s, came out with ios5 & is getting the ios8 update, so that is pretty good for a mobile deviceJul 21 15:26
abeNd-orgnone of the sammy phones get upgrades anything like that, perhaps 1 major rev if they are luckyJul 21 15:26
DaemonFCI heard that the iPhone 4 line won't get iOS 8.Jul 21 15:27
DaemonFCBesides, you don't need a new version of Android to run most Android apps.Jul 21 15:27
DaemonFCPeople with Gingerbread can still run many apps.Jul 21 15:27
abeNd-orgyou are correct, but that was released back in june 2010, so 4yrs old is pretty long in tooth when it comes to mobile devicesJul 21 15:28
abeNd-orgactually, my wife had to junk her 2.3.x android phone because of the new google calendar app wouldnt work with it, & the old one wasnt syncing properly anymore, & she is a heavy calendar userJul 21 15:29
DaemonFCThat brings me to my other point.Jul 21 15:30
DaemonFCRespectable Android phones are getting cheaper.Jul 21 15:30
DaemonFCThe Android One thing aims for a decent $100 Android phone without any subsidies.Jul 21 15:31
abeNd-orghers was a at one time top of the line motorolaJul 21 15:31
DaemonFCSo, the iPhone 5c will still be $549 while a "good enough" Android phone will only be $100.Jul 21 15:31
abeNd-orgthat motorola had on their 4.x upgrade list for the longest, then cancelledJul 21 15:31
abeNd-orgwhich made that the last moto product we were going to ever buy (sure other things might have moto chips or such, but not buying anything with moto branding)Jul 21 15:32
Sosumiback in the days of pocket pcJul 21 15:40
Sosumithe version of pocket pc or palm os you bought the device with Jul 21 15:41
Sosumiwas the one you’d also be stuck withJul 21 15:41
Sosumisame for symbianJul 21 15:41
Sosumiat least on the iphone, the have been doing good thereJul 21 15:41
abeNd-orgdepending on the model, sometimes you would get no updates, minor updates, but i dont think you would ever see a major version updateJul 21 15:41
__martin__"Volkswagen AG (VOW), Europe’s largest carmaker, plans to mimic the fast-paced rollouts of products made by the likes of Apple Inc. (AAPL) to adapt quicker to changing customer demands for technology in its cars." - BloombergJul 21 15:42
abeNd-orgyea, i think iphones usually received 3 major os revision updatesJul 21 15:42
Sosumiwith the 4 now being dropped after it was released back in 2010Jul 21 15:42
Sosumiwhile the only android devices that get regular updates are the nexus and google play editionsJul 21 15:43
abeNd-orgeven the sammy flagship phones rarely get updatesJul 21 15:43
SosumiyeahJul 21 15:43
DaemonFCI just got my car insurance renewal bill. Bleh!Jul 21 16:06
DaemonFCI'm switching companies again because I got a better offer.Jul 21 16:07
DaemonFCI hate doing this. They want to ask you a billion questions. It's like canceling AOL.Jul 21 16:07
DaemonFCSosumi, I'm holding off on buying a new system because these upgrades haven't been really impressive lately.Jul 21 16:09
DaemonFCI remember when the speed of a CPU would double every year or two, and it was just getting better at a crazy paceJul 21 16:10
DaemonFCI don't think they've tripled in speed in the last five years.Jul 21 16:11
__martin__"Toshiba and U.S. partner SanDisk Corp filed separate civil lawsuits against SK Hynix seeking damages over the suspected theft of data related to their flagship flash memory chip technology used in smartphones and tablet computers. " - ReutersJul 21 16:13
SosumiI understandJul 21 16:16
Sosumijust upgrade when you see it required :)Jul 21 16:17
DaemonFCIt's kind of sad really. That there haven't been incredible advances in the last five years.,Jul 21 16:19
DaemonFCLeave it to Apple to take us from dragging and dropping files with a file manager to "You need to install the most horrendously bloated media player ever made, and it only works with Windows and Mac.". EWW!Jul 21 17:08
DaemonFCClearly this is a regression, and so is the price.Jul 21 17:08
DaemonFCI use a Sandisk Sansa Clip+, and to channel Milton from Office Space, "And if they take Mass Storage Class away, I'm going to burn the building to the ground.".Jul 21 17:08
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Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/21/covert-backdoors-ios/Jul 21 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Forensic Expert Questions Covert 'Backdoor' Services Included in iOS by Apple - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/hsspx ]Jul 21 17:40
SosumiI am not suggesting some grand conspiracy; there are, however, some services running in iOS that shouldn’t be there, that were intentionally added by Apple as part of the firmware, and that bypass backup encryption while copying more of your personal data than ever should come off the phone for the average consumer.”Jul 21 17:40
SosumiYES YES I’ve been hitting at this for some time alreadyJul 21 17:41
Sosumibut on the osx side of thingsJul 21 17:41
Sosumiwhen even with things like report submission is disabledJul 21 17:41
Sosumilittle snitch catches the process submitdiag calling appleJul 21 17:41
Sosumiand among that process, othersJul 21 17:42
DaemonFCMicrosoft has something similar in Windows. They gave the government a program that can immediately decrypt all of your Bitlocker drives. Jul 21 18:02
abeNd-orgif only the NSA would just let me have access to all my data, that would make the 3 tier backup so much easierJul 21 18:06
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DaemonFChttp://news.investors.com/technology-click/071414-708627-googl-outpacing-msft-aapl-in-notebooks.htmJul 21 18:24
DaemonFCA computer in every home and a Linux operating system on many of them.Jul 21 18:24
DaemonFCMy prediction for the future.Jul 21 18:24
DaemonFCChrome devices are so inexpensive that they're the number one desktop and laptop OS on Amazon. Some users report that they managed to throw out their Windoze computer entirely and move over to Chrome OS.Jul 21 18:24
DaemonFCI'm finding myself in Google Chrome on my Fedora desktop more and more. I'm not sure I'm ready to chuck the PC just yet, but when the time comes, I might.Jul 21 18:24
DaemonFCIt's hard to argue with a $150 Chromebox when it has almost all the capabilities of a Windoze computer that costs less than about $600.Jul 21 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.investors.com | Google Chrome takes big chunk of commercial notebook sales - Investors.com [ http://ur1.ca/hssyg ]Jul 21 18:24
DaemonFCWith Windows XP getting harder to press on with and the prospect of a Windoze "upgrade that involves a 'spensive new PC, that could explain the surge of Chrome.Jul 21 18:24
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DaemonFCAnd if you want to give your Chromebox a kick in the pants, you can flip it over and put in more RAM.Jul 21 18:33
abeNd-orgmost of the XP coa'ed machines I have a clients are x64 & can do 8gb ram, more than enough to handle win81 reliablyJul 21 18:53
abeNd-orgthe problem usually is with the slower than dirt WDC-green type drives in them, they really fly with an ssdJul 21 18:54
DaemonFCWestern Digital "Green". BWAHAHAHAAAA!!!Jul 21 18:55
DaemonFCWho the FUCK buys that SHIT?Jul 21 18:55
DaemonFCI'm sorry, but......Jesus Christ.Jul 21 18:56
DaemonFCYou know?Jul 21 18:56
abeNd-orgso ive reimaged most of the xp machines with 81 & redeployed their LoB applications, they just keep chugging alongJul 21 18:56
DaemonFC"It uses less power". Yeah, like a couple of watts, and it kills your data access times. KILLS THEM.Jul 21 18:56
abeNd-orgyea, im not a fan of the "green" line, i wouldnt buy them myself, but dell/hp/lenovo love using themJul 21 18:56
DaemonFCOf course they do. They can save $10 and most people that buy a Dell don't know any better.Jul 21 18:57
abeNd-orgim not talking dimension consumer grade machines, im talking precision/optiplex business classJul 21 18:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chromebook Gains, Microsoft WorriesJul 21 18:57
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MinceRpeople who buy dHells don't know any betterJul 21 18:58
MinceRif they did, they wouldn't be buying dHells.Jul 21 18:58
abeNd-orghp/lenovo business class machines are no better/worseJul 21 19:00
abeNd-orgi could care less about consumer class machines from any vendorJul 21 19:00
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MinceR_actually, thinkpads are a lot better than latitudesJul 21 19:13
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abeNd-org*shrug* as long as they arent consumer grade, im more or less fine with any of themJul 21 19:19
abeNd-orgpeople who go out & buy vostro & pavilion machines for cheap, then complain that they arent running fast enough....Jul 21 19:20
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tigerfoot:-) Jul 21 20:09
abeNd-orgor while i am in this channel should i be referring to them as stinkpad/dull/etc?Jul 21 20:13
MinceRwhateverJul 21 20:14
__martin__abeNd-org: dull got that shocked by sale figures of hardware with chrome os that they shove it off from their offeringsJul 21 20:15
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DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 21 20:50
DaemonFC"every new version of iOS is full of bugs"Jul 21 20:50
DaemonFCDoes it support Ogg Vorbis yet, or are users stuck with Apple's garbage AAC or (god help you) Nero's?Jul 21 20:50
DaemonFCApple and Nero managed to produce such low quality AAC encoders, that although AAC is theoretically as good as Vorbis, their implementations of AAC are often matched or outperformed by the lame MP3 encoder.Jul 21 20:50
DaemonFChttp://listening-tests.hydrogenaud.io/sebastian/mp3-128-1/results.htmJul 21 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-listening-tests.hydrogenaud.io | Results of the public MP3 listening test @ 128 kbps (October 2008) [ http://ur1.ca/hstpz ]Jul 21 20:50
DaemonFCIf it comes down to a choice between Apple AAC or Lame MP3, use the Lame MP3 encoder. It produces files that will work everywhere, the quality is as good or better, and MP3 will be in the public domain in 2017, while MPEG-4 patents (like the ones describing AAC) won't finish expiring until the 2030s. Apple owns MPEG-4 patents and that's why it promotes AAC and fought to get open standard media codecs out of the HTML 5 specification. Apple Jul 21 20:50
DaemonFCcan't be trusted. The have conflicts of interest with what's good for the public. Like Microsoft, Apple's goal is to suck a tax stream out of innovative companies. Spotify rejected AAC and streams in Vorbis. Good for them!Jul 21 20:50
DaemonFCIf Vorbis is a choice, then forget both and use Vorbis.Jul 21 20:50
DaemonFCI'd call missing Vorbis support a definite dealbreaker when choosing a portable media player.Jul 21 20:50
DaemonFCOn the topic of Apple's bogus iTunes "Plus" "upgrade", the only point of doubling the size of the files was to run your iThing out of space faster.Jul 21 20:50
DaemonFCOnly the kind of complete philistine that would do business with Apple, spend $300 on an MP3 player, and wear those crappy earbuds would think that they'd get any benefit from a doubling of bitrate.Jul 21 20:51
MinceRdo they have FLAC support already?Jul 21 20:52
abeNd-orgive found amazon's drm free mp3 not horrible, & pretty cheap Jul 21 20:56
DaemonFCMinceR, ALAC. It produces files that are 8-11% bigger and.....well, that's about all it does.Jul 21 21:00
MinceRpftJul 21 21:01
MinceRanother thing it does is that it won't play anywhere elseJul 21 21:01
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DaemonFCMinceR, Rockbox.Jul 21 21:04
DaemonFCApple eventually released ALAC under the Apache 2.0 license.Jul 21 21:04
DaemonFCThere's just no reason to use it.Jul 21 21:04
MinceRicJul 21 21:04
DaemonFCWhenever I find ALAC files, I use the open source codec to decompress them and then I recompress them into FLAC.Jul 21 21:05
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc0NjAJul 22 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] AMD "Hawaii" Open-Source GPU Acceleration Still Not Working Right [ http://ur1.ca/hsyy9 ]Jul 22 08:05
DaemonFCUhhhh. Uh oh.Jul 22 08:05
DaemonFC"nobody knows why it doesn't work"Jul 22 08:05
DaemonFC"Hawaii support is not a priority at the moment. We don't have any business cases right now where accelerated open source Hawaii is a priority." Jul 22 08:05
DaemonFC-AMDJul 22 08:05
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DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabeat#Gigabeat_SJul 22 08:12
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DaemonFC"On March 3, 2009, Toshiba released a firmware update which upgrades the Platform to 1.3 (from 1.1).[1] There are no release notes and the changes are unknown."Jul 22 08:12
DaemonFCGee, that sounds exactly like something I'd want to install....Jul 22 08:12
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MinceRif he hadn't lost his mind and stuck to GNU/Linux, he could still target that machineJul 24 07:16
MinceRsucks to be himJul 24 07:16
DaemonFCMinceR, Whatever happened to "It just works."?Jul 24 07:17
DaemonFCI have Linux binaries that I got 4-5 years ago that still run.Jul 24 07:17
MinceRit was always just hype.Jul 24 07:17
DaemonFCWhat the hell is the Mac's excuse for that?Jul 24 07:17
MinceRit never worked and it never willJul 24 07:17
MinceRbut it doesn't have toJul 24 07:18
MinceRthe cultists will just imagine that it didJul 24 07:18
MinceRand continue spewing bullshit at everybodyJul 24 07:18
MinceRit's all the same with the m$ cultistsJul 24 07:18
MinceRhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60eKauWFFPkJul 24 07:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Department of Dirty: http://www.departmentofdirty.co.uk - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/htf0b ]Jul 24 07:34
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/07/preview-a-closer-look-at-os-x-yosemite-just-in-time-for-the-public-beta/Jul 24 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Preview: A closer look at OS X Yosemite, just in time for the public beta | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/htf19 ]Jul 24 07:39
DaemonFCMinceR, If you pay $99 a year, you have access to Apple operating systems that are even more broken.Jul 24 07:39
MinceRwhat a bargain :>Jul 24 07:40
MinceRgeekingsJul 24 09:19
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schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc0ODUJul 24 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Mono Begins To Focus On Performance, Assembles A Team [ http://ur1.ca/htfqv ]Jul 24 09:49
DaemonFCThen again, you can tell where some of them have never made Linux software before, when they repackage all of /usr/lib into their directory. You see truly stupid people doing this all the time. The people who made the video game "Trine" did it. Then one of their files malfunctioned in a newer Linux release, and I had to figure out which one it was and delete that copy of the library so it got the system copy. Stupid stupid people.....Jul 24 09:58
DaemonFCBut that's proprietary software for you. Stumbling along and hiding incompetence and bugs. Sometimes, calling proprietary software developers incompetent is high praise.Jul 24 09:58
DaemonFCGoogle did Chrome up with a bunch of back asswards Windoze developers and then had to go back and fix pretty much everything later.Jul 24 09:59
MinceRnot just thatJul 24 10:00
MinceRalso hiding the crappitude of their products behind bullshitJul 24 10:00
MinceRon websites that contain nothing of substanceJul 24 10:00
schestowitznice picturesJul 24 10:01
schestowitzand not much textJul 24 10:01
MinceRi'm sick and tired of hunting down crumbs of information on proprietary crapJul 24 10:01
schestowitzso the senior and lacking confidence can follow...Jul 24 10:01
DaemonFCWell, Google isn't as bad about that as Apple is....Jul 24 10:01
MinceRand of course the brainless masses eat it all upJul 24 10:01
DaemonFCDear lord.Jul 24 10:01
MinceRusually wikipedia helps me see through the bullshit, but not alwaysJul 24 10:02
DaemonFCIf I see one more "benchmark" of a new Apple product that takes up half the page with a graphic and doesn't even tell you what the benchmark means......Jul 24 10:02
DaemonFCI'll scream.Jul 24 10:02
MinceR:>Jul 24 10:02
DaemonFCOh, I actually kind of like Chrome now, but it took them a while.Jul 24 10:03
DaemonFCI am glad that they've made a market for low cost computers that you can just buy and immediately use.Jul 24 10:03
DaemonFCAt least someone is cleaning up all this Windows mess.Jul 24 10:04
DaemonFCI'd like to see Microsoft routed even if they are largely replaced by Google.Jul 24 10:04
MinceRthat could end up very ugly tooJul 24 10:05
MinceRimagine a world where general-purpose computers are illegal unless you have a developer license with the government, and then you have to accept extra-heavy monitoringJul 24 10:05
DaemonFCI think Google has the right idea here. They didn't start with Chrome OS on anything fancy. Just start eating away at Windows on the low end with machines that can do most of what a desktop user is likely to do anyway.Jul 24 10:05
MinceRand everyone else is closely watched through the cloudJul 24 10:05
MinceRwhich is mandatory for themJul 24 10:05
DaemonFCGoogle isn't exactly stopping you from booting a real Linux distribution on those things, and they're cheap as hell. :PJul 24 10:06
DaemonFCAt one point, Microsoft was selling netbooks with Windows CE. They painted it up to look kind of like Windows XP. People got them and found out that they'd been had, and returned them.Jul 24 10:07
DaemonFCThey were available on Newegg for a while for $29, just trying to get rid of all the returns.Jul 24 10:08
DaemonFCI thought that was pretty funny.Jul 24 10:08
DaemonFCThey always find someone to push their crappy product that nobody wants, and absorb the loss.Jul 24 10:08
DaemonFCThat time, it was Sylvania.Jul 24 10:08
DaemonFChttp://www.wpcentral.com/have-39-spare-then-pick-odd-sylvania-7-netbook-windows-ceJul 24 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wpcentral.com | Have $39 to spare? Then pick up this odd Sylvania 7” netbook with Windows CE | Windows Phone Central [ http://ur1.ca/htfvb ]Jul 24 10:09
DaemonFCOh, that's neat. They even used the Windows 7 wallpaper in the ad. LOL!Jul 24 10:09
schestowitz[22:56] <DaemonFC> The same military that destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan could easily be turned on AmericansJul 24 10:09
schestowitzAlready doesJul 24 10:10
DaemonFC"Remember this is Windows CE, which was designed to run with a 32mb footprint.  The 128mb is actually a lot of RAM for Windows CE 6.0, especially when you consider than Windows XP ran fine with 128mb of RAM, and if 'hack installed' even Windows 8 runs just fine with 128mb of RAM due to the new reduce RAM modes."Jul 24 10:13
DaemonFC128 MB is a lot of RAM when there's no applications you can run anyway..... :)Jul 24 10:13
DaemonFC"Id rather kids bash this up then play on the laptop...definitely.. But what does it do?"Jul 24 10:14
DaemonFCLOLJul 24 10:14
MinceRhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55AqvgJul 24 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Expert (Short Comedy Sketch) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/hbju3 ]Jul 24 10:20
MinceR110709 < DaemonFC> Google isn't exactly stopping you from booting a real Linux distribution on those things, and they're cheap as hell. :PJul 24 10:20
MinceRsure, but we could get into that position eventuallyJul 24 10:20
DaemonFCMinceR, I'm writing an Amazon review of the Sylvania netbook with Windows CE.Jul 24 10:21
DaemonFCI'll post the link when I'm done.Jul 24 10:21
MinceRlolJul 24 10:21
MinceRthe notion of winblows working with little memoryJul 24 10:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/492239878936334336Jul 24 10:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz They can kiss my bottom line.Jul 24 10:29
DaemonFCI submitted it.Jul 24 10:36
DaemonFCIt says it'll be posted soon.Jul 24 10:37
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/review/R1B8F2GZP9F5AXJul 24 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies)'s review of SYNET7WID 7 Inch Wireless Mobile [ http://ur1.ca/htg34 ]Jul 24 10:41
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/SYNET7WID-7-Inch-Wireless-Mobile/dp/B003ZYUCDSJul 24 10:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com : SYNET7WID 7 Inch Wireless Mobile : Netbook Computers : Computers & Accessories [ http://ur1.ca/htg40 ]Jul 24 10:46
DaemonFC"Having bought one for $80 and returned it the following day, I'd say pass on this one, even for $45. Truly has difficulties getting onto the internet, locks up, and all the other issues mentioned in the reviews. You'd do better to get an unlocked (page plus cellular version) palm pixi smart phone on Amazon for $45, and it will have better apps, internet connectivity (wi-fi) and overall use. Even if you do not subscribe to a phone service Jul 24 10:46
DaemonFCwith it, it will work in the same manner as this Sylvania as it has wifi capabilities. The phone is smaller, of course, but works magnificently. Just my thoughts . . ."Jul 24 10:46
DaemonFC"i returned it and still have not received refund,after all refund charges i would have got back about $20 gave up chasing it not worth the time, wish it hadnt come up because i forgot all about it now that i remember im mad again"Jul 24 10:47
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx20DX5GEB7TUX8&cdThread=Tx3HXWY5ME3SAKAJul 24 10:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: That time when Microsoft had a netbook..... [ http://ur1.ca/htg72 ]Jul 24 10:57
MinceRrotflJul 24 11:02
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 24 11:03
DaemonFChttp://www.yourwarrantyisvoid.com/2011/07/25/cvs-netbook-revisited/Jul 24 11:03
DaemonFCThere's the link where the guy got Linux on it.Jul 24 11:03
DaemonFCI guess if you brick it, you can still use it as a doorstop, which is about all it was good for with Windows CE on it. If you can find one of these things at a garage sale or something, pick it up and see what you can torture it into doing. I'm sure they'll take a few bucks and you'll have something to tinker with, or give to the kids to smash up, or whatever.Jul 24 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yourwarrantyisvoid.com | CVS Netbook Revisited « Your Warranty Is Void.com [ http://ur1.ca/htg94 ]Jul 24 11:03
DaemonFCB-)Jul 24 11:03
DaemonFCMinceR, It'll be alright. It just needs some DEVELOPERS!Jul 24 11:04
MinceRlolJul 24 11:04
MinceRcan you get ballmer to record the video? :>Jul 24 11:04
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIk4qTKmKzEJul 24 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Zune Balmer - YouTubeJul 24 11:08
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/ZuKrR8x.pngJul 24 11:15
schestowitztoucheJul 24 11:18
schestowitz> "He is being sued under a criminal law that wasJul 24 11:22
schestowitz> reformed in 2006, following the conclusion of a freeJul 24 11:22
schestowitz> trade agreement between Colombia and the United States."Jul 24 11:22
schestowitz> Jul 24 11:22
schestowitz> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/colombian-student-faces-prison-charges-sharing-academic-article-onlineJul 24 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Colombian Student Faces Prison Charges for Sharing an Academic Article Online | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/htbg4 ]Jul 24 11:22
schestowitz> "He is being sued under a criminal law that wasJul 24 11:23
schestowitz> reformed in 2006, following the conclusion of a freeJul 24 11:23
schestowitz> trade agreement between Colombia and the United States."Jul 24 11:23
schestowitz> Jul 24 11:23
schestowitz> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/colombian-student-faces-prison-charges-sharing-academic-article-onlineJul 24 11:23
schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2014/07/23/can-twitter-activism-bringbackourgirls/Jul 24 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Can Twitter activism #BringBackOurGirls? - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/htgem ]Jul 24 11:23
schestowitzTwitter is useless...Jul 24 11:23
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schestowitz> http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240225262/Microsoft-attacks-UK-government-decision-to-adopt-ODF-for-document-formatsJul 24 11:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Microsoft attacks UK government decision to adopt ODF for document formats [ http://ur1.ca/htgfm ]Jul 24 11:27
schestowitz> https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs.Jul 24 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gov.uk | Open document formats selected to meet user needs - Press releases - GOV.UK [ http://ur1.ca/ht43r ]Jul 24 11:27
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schestowitz> I guess you saw those already and have written.  Google is big enoughJul 24 11:27
schestowitz> that it sets the trends.  Claiming to follow them is just a dodge.  ItJul 24 11:27
schestowitz> would be useful to get to the bottom of that and find out who is makingJul 24 11:27
schestowitz> the decisions inside Google in regard to ODF.Jul 24 11:27
schestowitzI covered all the above (three). Yes, Google sickens me when it comes to document formats, but the truth is, many people don't use formats at all in docs. They just access files and keep them on "the cloud", oblivious to data formats, so "Google" is the format.Jul 24 11:27
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DaemonFChttp://www.gog.com/news/gogcom_now_supports_linuxJul 24 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gog.com | News - GOG.com Now Supports Linux! - GOG.com [ http://ur1.ca/htj4u ]Jul 24 17:40
DaemonFChttp://www.gog.com/promo/linux_launch_promo_240714Jul 24 17:42
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DaemonFC"You know, that with all the apps and computers that Apple breaks, you'd wonder how the people who go insane and buy a Mac actually get anything done at all. Software with no active development just dies every few years, and software that is developed has an expensive new version. When Apple finally breaks your entire computer, the only way to get it running modern software again is to upgrade you Mac to Linux.Jul 24 17:51
DaemonFCApple users should be glad that they have access to open source software. Of course, even then, developers can't support your Mac that got dropped and broken by Apple because of bugs and problems that exist in the Mac hardware because Apple rushed a broken product to market (like the first x86 models), or because Apple just wants to sell you new stuff every few years. As soon as you can't run the latest Mac OS, the death watch begins, at Jul 24 17:51
DaemonFCleast as far as OS X software goes.Jul 24 17:51
DaemonFCI understand that with Mavericks and Yosemite, Apple dropped support entirely for a lot of Macs that aren't really even that old. Luckily, Linux will support my non-Mac computer for as long as I'll use it. Part of the reason I didn't buy a Mac was because I knew that this **** would happen and Apple would just drop it when Linux would keep my computer running for all practical purposes for at least twice as long.Jul 24 17:51
DaemonFCI suppose there might be some kind of hack to shove Mac OS 10.8 and 10.9 on your "old" 2008 computer anyway, like there was when Apple declared that OS X 10.4 wouldn't run on any Mac without Firewire, but why should anyone have to resort to this on hardware that has no honest reason for being deprecated?Jul 24 17:51
DaemonFCThere's no legitimate reason to drop a 2008 computer. Things shouldn't have changed so much that it's some kind of a horrible maintenance burden, unless you ****ed everything up real good to get it released faster, like Apple does."Jul 24 17:51
DaemonFC"With Apple, the only way forward is to drop the entire computer and most of your software in the trash again every few years and start over."Jul 24 17:55
abeNd-orgnow if you could ramp up the linux marketing machine to match apple's....Jul 24 18:03
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DaemonFChttp://it.slashdot.org/story/14/07/24/0230212/internet-explorer-vulnerabilities-increase-100Jul 24 18:26
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DaemonFChttp://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=17158Jul 24 18:39
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DaemonFCMicrosoft hired the lead guy that wrote most of AppArmor. It's a shame they apparently aren't doing anything useful with him.Jul 24 18:45
Sosumiosx yololelolo only runs on efi 64 machines officiallyJul 24 18:45
Sosumiaka everything from 2008 onwards runs itJul 24 18:46
Sosumias for the macs with efi 32, those were the original Intel core based machines and the 2 first mac prosJul 24 18:47
DaemonFCIn the PC world, dropping x86-32 support means PCs older than 2004, for the most part.Jul 24 18:47
DaemonFCWith Apple, they shipped 32-bit EFI on some systems clear up to 2008, so they can't boot into a 64-bit OS properlyJul 24 18:47
DaemonFCApple doesn't care because they can just drop those Macs and tell people to buy new Macs.Jul 24 18:47
Sosumiwell and those macs are just underpowered now to run any current version of osx anywaysJul 24 18:48
SosumiWELL, they were already crap low end hardware to begin withJul 24 18:48
Sosumibut I do agree that apple could have launched a firmware update to bring those machines capable of booting into 64 machinesJul 24 18:49
Sosumiwhich basically were just the two first mac prosJul 24 18:50
Sosumi2007 macbook pros already had the 64 bit EFIJul 24 18:50
DaemonFCThat's why they still boot, but you have to have a 2009 Mac Mini.Jul 24 18:52
DaemonFC:PJul 24 18:52
DaemonFCFucking ridiculous....Jul 24 18:52
Sosumimac minis are trash, I have no idea why ppl buy thoseJul 24 18:57
Sosumithe high end imacs are still kind of understandable if they just want a “kewl” looking computer on the displayJul 24 18:58
Sosumibut mehJul 24 18:58
Sosumithe hp Z1 wipes the floor with itJul 24 18:59
Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/24/jimmy-kimmel-iwatch-joke/Jul 24 19:04
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Sosumifrom one of the pedestrians “if it is apple, it is good, right?”Jul 24 19:04
Sosumieven if it is in fact and cheapo casio watchJul 24 19:04
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Sosumiwell, folks, with that kind of installed mentalityJul 24 19:07
Sosumiprobably the sole reason to buy a mac is to make programs for the hypephone and the future hypeWatchJul 24 19:08
MinceRthey didn't do anything useful with drobbins either, did they?Jul 24 19:52
Sosumidrobbins?Jul 24 19:54
MinceRthe gentoo guyJul 24 19:54
MinceR194749 < DaemonFC> With Apple, they shipped 32-bit EFI on some systems clear up to 2008, so they can't boot into a 64-bit OS properlyJul 24 19:54
MinceRBIOS wins againJul 24 19:54
MinceR195734 < Sosumi> mac minis are trash, I have no idea why ppl buy thoseJul 24 19:55
MinceRs/ mini//Jul 24 19:55
MinceRFTFYJul 24 19:55
MinceR(also, they buy them because they're cheap and they have the logo on)Jul 24 19:55
MinceRas for the hypeWatch, it will probably have less functionality than the casio ones :>Jul 24 19:56
MinceRconsider yourself lucky if they'll be able to tell the time reliablyJul 24 19:56
DaemonFCMinceR, I don't know about the cheap part. I saw a PC the other day for $200 that even threw in a keyboard and a mouse. It wasn't an i5 or i7, but you don't exactly need one when you can't install a video card alongside it to balance the system out on the Mac anyway.Jul 24 19:57
MinceRi mean relativelyJul 24 19:57
DaemonFCWith the Intel integrated video you're stuck with on the Mac, your i7 is going to be a slow-ass bastard anyway.Jul 24 19:58
DaemonFCEven at $800.Jul 24 19:58
MinceRa slow ass-bastard!Jul 24 19:58
DaemonFCIt could be worse. Microsoft could make a Windows watch that can't deal with leap year and crashes, like the Zune did.Jul 24 20:00
MinceRcrApple can do that tooJul 24 20:00
MinceRthey have the technology!Jul 24 20:00
DaemonFCThose damned ass-bastards!Jul 24 20:07
DaemonFCcan't even make a real computer....Jul 24 20:07
DaemonFCI turned all this into an Amazon post, MinceR Jul 24 20:09
MinceR:>Jul 24 20:10
DaemonFCI wonder if they'll flip their shit again and start downvoting me. I give them about a minute.Jul 24 20:10
DaemonFCI bought a *snort*....I bought a *chortles*....I bought a BAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!! Mac today. Shit. I'm a horrible liar. ;)Jul 24 20:12
DaemonFCSo you all can add that to the list of things you'll *_never_* hear me say.Jul 24 20:19
DaemonFCIf you do, then kill me because the Pod people have cloned me, and I'm an impostor.Jul 24 20:19
MinceR:>Jul 24 20:20
DaemonFCAs much contempt as I have for Windoze, at least it works sometimes. The Mac really doesn't. If I can't run my existing assortment of software for more than a few years before Apple breaks everything again, then what the hell is the point of having an operating system?Jul 24 20:22
DaemonFCI ran into someone the other day that was still using a Pentium 3 computer that he bought in 1999. You'll never see a Mac in service for 15 years.Jul 24 20:23
DaemonFCYou'll never see Mac software in service for 15 years, for that matter. You buy a new Mac or upgrade the OS, and most of it all breaks again.Jul 24 20:24
DaemonFCJust out of curiosity, I asked him why he was still using a PC from 1999, and he told me that he was unemployed and couldn't afford an investment in newer hardware right at the moment, and his 1999 PC was running fine with a minimal Linux system anyway, so it wasn't an immediate problem.Jul 24 20:26
DaemonFCMany Mac owners have to replace their system every three years anyway, so they've trashed about 5 computers, going on 6, and all the software that goes with that. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting it to all work better this time.Jul 24 20:28
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abeNd-orgDaemonFC: those mac owners are rich enough that they could care less, they would rather have the social "prestige" of having the newest/latest/greatestJul 24 21:43
DaemonFCThen what on Earth could they possibly be doing with a Mac?Jul 24 21:44
abeNd-org"they" think the latest macbook will give them a higher social standing, same thing with the latest iphoneJul 24 21:45
abeNd-organd if it costs more, it must be betterJul 24 21:45
abeNd-orga "poor" person (unless they are putting themselves into debt to do it) wont be buying a new macbook every yrJul 24 21:48
MinceRsome people take out a loan so they can buy a hypePhoneJul 24 21:49
abeNd-orgMinceR: yea, not the smartest thing to do for sureJul 24 21:49
abeNd-orgi have an old 4s, bought for me by my workplace, & if i want an upgrade I'll have to pay for it....I'll passJul 24 21:50
DaemonFCabeNd-org, Yeah. I remember 10 years ago, there was this college guy that I was fooling around with for a while who had a PowerMac G4. His parents bought it for him and he was all like "My Mac is so awesome.". So he was over at my house one day and used my Windows XP machine with a Celeron and said "This is really fast! You must have paid a fortune for this!".Jul 24 21:53
DaemonFCSo, that kind of tells you how clueless people are. They get off their Mac and use a Windows system with a Celeron processor and think it's super fast.Jul 24 21:53
abeNd-orgouch!Jul 24 21:53
DaemonFCBy the time Apple was done with the G4, they had been using it for so long that it was just totally embarrassing.Jul 24 21:54
DaemonFCCelerons were beating the crap out of them.Jul 24 21:54
abeNd-orgI haven't used too many osx machinesJul 24 21:54
MinceR:>Jul 24 21:54
abeNd-orga customer's macbook here & there, but thats about it, apple's marketing hasnt convinced me to buy one for myselfJul 24 21:57
DaemonFCIf Windows keeps going where it's going, I may have to buy a Mac to boot Linux at some point.Jul 24 22:00
DaemonFCI doubt Apple really cares much about booting Linux on a Mac because nobody really does it.Jul 24 22:00
abeNd-orgthey will treat it like windows, poor power management, bad drivers, etcJul 24 22:01
DaemonFCI understand you can remove OS X completely.Jul 24 22:02
DaemonFCI see people running Linux on a Mac sometimes. It seems to work.Jul 24 22:02
abeNd-orgright, but apple wont release source for any of the hardware on it, so linux will "work" on it, but not optimally Jul 24 22:03
MinceRif mac os keeps going where it's going, buying a mac may not necessarily help youJul 24 22:04
abeNd-orgim betting apple would rather you just buy an iphone & ipadJul 24 22:05
abeNd-org& nothing elseJul 24 22:05
abeNd-orgwell, perhaps an iwatchJul 24 22:05
MinceRare their profit margins higher on all those?Jul 24 22:05
abeNd-orgi dont have the numbers in front of me on those, but I am guessing apple wouldnt be bothering with them if they werent making a mint per device, they dont sell for a loss like sony/microsoft did the consolesJul 24 22:06
DaemonFCAside from the firmware, I think the Macs are really just PCs aren't they?Jul 24 22:07
DaemonFChttp://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/00000/1000/400/1486/1486.strip.gifJul 24 22:07
abeNd-orgyea, x64 intelJul 24 22:07
abeNd-orgbut even windows running on a macbook suffers from lack of optimized driversJul 24 22:07
MinceRthey're low quality pcs with some attempts at incompatibilityJul 24 22:08
DaemonFCApple wrote the drivers for Windows!Jul 24 22:09
DaemonFCI doubt Linux has that problem.Jul 24 22:09
abeNd-orgid rather have a dell precision, you can stack a lot of nice stuff into those, 2 HD bays + optical, pcie ssd if you wanted, etcJul 24 22:09
MinceR:>Jul 24 22:09
MinceRyeah, i guess even dell is better than appleJul 24 22:09
DaemonFCMinceR, It depends on which Dell you buy. I tried to put some more RAM into a Dell that my grandmother paid WAY too much for, and when I pushed down on it, the retention clips broke off the socket and pinged around in the case.Jul 24 22:10
MinceRlolJul 24 22:11
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: thats the problem, apple doesnt do optimized drivers, so windows suffers. no source or binaries for the hardware in linux so im sure it suffers the sameJul 24 22:17
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: you are probably talking a vostro or inspiron, neither of which should exist, the latitude/precision arent bad for laptops, & i cant say anything to alienware as ive not used themJul 24 22:18
MinceRlatitudes aren't that great eitherJul 24 22:18
MinceRbut at least they aren't as bad as inspironsJul 24 22:18
DaemonFCYeah, it was an old Inspicrap.Jul 24 22:19
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: yep, those are 100% junkJul 24 22:19
abeNd-orgsame as the dell poweredge "SC" line of servers, & for this channel I will call those Severely CrippledJul 24 22:19
MinceRalso, their "warranty" isn't worth the paper it's printed onJul 24 22:19
MinceRwow, you got off the high horse? :>Jul 24 22:20
abeNd-orgMinceR: just for you this onceJul 24 22:20
*abeNd-org hugs MinceRJul 24 22:20
MinceRawkward...Jul 24 22:20
abeNd-orgyea, hard to hug textJul 24 22:20
DaemonFCThe shittiest server is the Lenovo ThinkServer.Jul 24 22:20
abeNd-orgthe business class dells I have had great luck with warranties, if you run the dell diags & it says something is wrong they replace it no questions asked (as they should)Jul 24 22:22
abeNd-orgwarranty for vostro type units? wouldnt know, but I am betting you are correctJul 24 22:22
MinceRi tried my luck with an inspironJul 24 22:23
abeNd-orgyou gambled & lost!Jul 24 22:23
MinceRbut i don't see why the model should affect so much of whether they care to deliver on their promises or notJul 24 22:23
DaemonFCThere seems to be a lot of refurbished Dell and HP deals on Woot.comJul 24 22:24
abeNd-orgthat is the world of consumer vs business/industrial productsJul 24 22:24
DaemonFCProbably a reason for that....Jul 24 22:24
abeNd-orgthe dell consumer products are made with whatever is cheapest that dayJul 24 22:24
DaemonFCThe Amazon reviews are pretty much all "I had it for three days and it wouldn't power on anymore.".Jul 24 22:24
DaemonFCThat sort of stuff.Jul 24 22:24
abeNd-orgthe optiplexes are a standard set of specs made for 12-16 months for enterprise lifecycleJul 24 22:25
abeNd-orgmakes imaging, purchasing, etc easierJul 24 22:25
DaemonFCGadgetDon says:Jul 24 22:27
DaemonFC[Customers don't think this post adds to the discussion. Hide post again.  (Show all unhelpful posts)]Jul 24 22:27
DaemonFCBobby, bobby, bobby, you're mixed your lines up with snowflake.Jul 24 22:27
DaemonFCYours is: Apple sucks! Windows sucks! It's Snowflake who is obsessed with "apple sucks"Jul 24 22:27
DaemonFCAnd really - who cares what you are saying with your Linux buddies on IRC? It's not like you were talking to anyone who had anything but a mirror of your positions.Jul 24 22:27
abeNd-orgeven if you were deploying linux, it would be easier to have a standard equipment set than whatever randomly rolled off the line that dayJul 24 22:27
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 24 22:27
DaemonFCWhat is the Done Thing for chat on a Mac these days? I understand that AOL Instant Messenger doesn't work with iChat anymore.Jul 24 22:27
MinceRthat doesn't mean their support has to be made with whatever attitude is cheapestJul 24 22:27
MinceRdoesn't matter thoughJul 24 22:27
MinceRdHell had their chance, they said 'fuck you' to their customer, i'm not buying their crap againJul 24 22:28
abeNd-orgMinceR: for consumer grade I cant really speak for their support, I only care about business classJul 24 22:28
MinceRmaybe they're used to the typical hungarian consumer attitudeJul 24 22:28
MinceR"sure, they fucked me, but at least it seemed cheap! :goes back for more hurting: "Jul 24 22:28
MinceRno wonder the typical business treats their customers like shitJul 24 22:29
abeNd-org*shrug* perhaps their consumer support blows, but their business class support is greatJul 24 22:29
MinceRwell, i'm not going to experience their "business class support"Jul 24 22:29
abeNd-orgI'm not saying they should treat a vostro customer like shit, as they would develop the same attitude as you towards the entire company, to which I don't blame youJul 24 22:31
MinceRgnJul 24 22:53
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DaemonFCThis is odd....Jul 25 01:32
DaemonFCGNOME Shell frequently goes over 500 MB of RAM with the Nvidia proprietary driver loaded.Jul 25 01:32
DaemonFCWith the AMD open source driver loaded, it stays around 200.Jul 25 01:33
DaemonFCI guess it wouldn't be the first time our friend the Nvidia driver had a problem..... :)Jul 25 01:33
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 25 02:23
DaemonFCWell, when you get to be like HP and Dell are, you start cutting corners that cause problems like exploding power supplies, capacitors that pop, etc.Jul 25 02:23
DaemonFCIt doesn't surprise me at all that their crappy crappy junk ends up crapflooding the Woot Offs. Jul 25 02:23
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DaemonFC I see that Microsoft has deployed another "Get The FUD" campaign against Chromebooks, like they did when they lost their lunch to Linux in the server market. This time they're even buying Google ads.Jul 25 05:04
DaemonFCI can't blame them. Nobody uses Bing. It's even thrown in your face in Vista 8.1, but it must be the first thing people turn off, because even that isn't helping them. Jul 25 05:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi Model B+ review – a new evolutionJul 25 05:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Model B+ review – a new evolution | Tux MachinesJul 25 05:07
DaemonFChttp://investorplace.com/2014/07/microsoft-msft-google-chromebook/Jul 25 05:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-investorplace.com | Microsoft Deploys Cheap Windows Laptops to Fight Google Chromebook | InvestorPlace [ http://ur1.ca/hto5n ]Jul 25 05:07
DaemonFCMicrosoft has gone from something that everyone feared to a laughingstock in the last few years. OEMs used to be too afraid of making them mad. It was like pissing off Saddam Hussein. Now they're openly defying them. Jul 25 05:09
DaemonFChttp://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/microsoft-abandons-nokia-asha-series-40-phones-xpress-browser-mixradio-may-be-spun-off-560663Jul 25 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | Microsoft Abandons Nokia Asha, Series 40 Phones; Xpress Browser, MixRadio May Be Spun Off | NDTV Gadgets [ http://ur1.ca/hto80 ]Jul 25 05:18
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DaemonFCabout a minute ago · EditedJul 25 06:00
DaemonFCA good article. The author is right. It's going to take more than a cheap laptop that can barely run Windows at all to save Microsoft from the Chromebooks.Jul 25 06:00
DaemonFCOn top of the miserable low-end Windows laptop experience, you still need to fork over hundreds of dollars if you want to use MS Office, which is a real bloated bastard and might not even run on a system like this.Jul 25 06:00
DaemonFCThe computer will take ages to boot, thanks to a spinning platter hard drive.Jul 25 06:00
DaemonFCYou still need to run Windows antivirus software on top of all this. Have fun with that.Jul 25 06:00
DaemonFCNo touchscreen.Jul 25 06:00
DaemonFCProbably more stuff that I can't think of.Jul 25 06:00
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cubexyznew blog post:Jul 25 06:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.com | Notes on LinuxJul 25 06:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     2014's Best Distros, Buncha New Games, andJul 25 08:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora Delayed http://t.co/pNCZvSb5wpJul 25 08:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 2014's Best Distros, Buncha New Games, and Fedora Delayed | Tux MachinesJul 25 08:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open-Source AMD Hawaii Support Should Now BeJul 25 08:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Working! http://t.co/0v4woruI6sJul 25 08:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-Source AMD Hawaii Support Should Now Be Working! | Tux MachinesJul 25 08:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS releasedJul 25 09:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS released | Tux MachinesJul 25 09:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma’s road to wayland http://t.co/YtR0IvEl6PJul 25 09:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma’s road to wayland | Tux MachinesJul 25 09:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation SysAdmin Eric Searcy Lives ByJul 25 09:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation SysAdmin Eric Searcy Lives By Regex | Tux MachinesJul 25 09:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/w8Plze2ZhQJul 25 09:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/kl1yKoMbYwJul 25 09:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/GsoTEHm6AGJul 25 09:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What the UK Government’s adoption of ODF reallyJul 25 10:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What the UK Government’s adoption of ODF really means | Tux MachinesJul 25 10:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How open sourcing Android made it a mobileJul 25 10:17
TweetTuxMachines                 market leader http://t.co/hkZ49qiebCJul 25 10:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How open sourcing Android made it a mobile market leader | Tux MachinesJul 25 10:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OnePlus AOSP stock ROM for those who don’t wantJul 25 10:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.10 is Now Using Kernel 3.16 RC3 AsJul 25 14:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.10 is Now Using Kernel 3.16 RC3 As Default | Tux MachinesJul 25 14:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     An Interview with Karen SandlerJul 25 14:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Interview with Karen Sandler | Tux MachinesJul 25 14:28
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schestowitz> https://www.google.com/search?q=hispalinux+eu+uefiJul 25 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | hispalinux eu uefi - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/httdc ]Jul 25 16:48
schestowitz> Jul 25 16:48
schestowitz> What ever happened to that?  I cannot see any followup articles inJul 25 16:48
schestowitz> Google's database.Jul 25 16:48
schestowitzNot much heard of it...Jul 25 16:48
schestowitzSome companies have not helped. They weakened the case.Jul 25 16:48
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4460823Jul 25 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "NYT is still wedded to the fallacy of having to sell software." -anon http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/07/23/open-source-and-the-challenge-of-making-money/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0 #nytimesJul 25 16:53
schestowitz"I won't log in"\Jul 25 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'http:' ( status 0 @ http:////www-nc.nytimes.com/2014/07/23/open-source-and-the-challenge-of-making-money/?=_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=6& )Jul 25 16:53
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4461252Jul 25 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: U.S. Government Doesn’t Need Evidence to Call You a Terrorist http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/us_government_doesnt_need_evidence_to_call_you_a_terrorist_20140724 or to #torture youJul 25 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.truthdig.com | U.S. Government Doesn’t Need Evidence to Call You a Terrorist - Truthdig [ http://ur1.ca/httev ]Jul 25 16:54
schestowitz"learning from germans ...... rule of law?!, already long no longer"Jul 25 16:54
schestowitzOne's religion makes one a suspected terrorist or dissidentJul 25 16:54
schestowitzhttp://www.bpi.co.uk/home/uk-creative-industries-and-isps-partner-in-major-new-initiative-to-promote-legal-online-entertainment.aspxJul 25 16:56
schestowitz"Jul 25 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bpi.co.uk | Home [ http://ur1.ca/httfa ]Jul 25 16:56
schestowitzThe second component is a subscriber alerts programme that will be co-managed and co-funded by ISPs and content creators and due to begin at a later date. Participating ISPs will alert and advise subscribers when their accounts are believed to have been used to infringe copyright. Account holders will receive an alert from their ISP, advising them unlawful filesharing may have taken place on their connection and offering advice on Jul 25 16:56
schestowitzwhere to find legitimate sources of entertainment content.Jul 25 16:56
schestowitzBPI - The British Recorded Music IndustryJul 25 16:56
schestowitzAnd the third component will be prosecution..Jul 25 16:56
schestowitzSpin, spin..Jul 25 16:56
schestowitz"Jul 25 16:56
schestowitz"Guess what the BPI page has a title? "home""Jul 25 16:56
schestowitzBPI is not aBritish. It's an American lobby group pretending to be British or speak for the British. It's a bit like "Microsoft UK".Jul 25 16:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4460502Jul 25 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Dive in, penguins: Upstart builds Linux virtual SAN http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/24/storpool_building_linux_vsanalike/Jul 25 17:02
schestowitz"It comes with a free demo too! :("\Jul 25 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Dive in, penguins: Upstart builds Linux virtual SAN • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/httgx ]Jul 25 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nginx Plus r4 Improves Web Server SecurityJul 25 17:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nginx Plus r4 Improves Web Server Security | Tux MachinesJul 25 17:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Interview with Nathan Willis, GUADEC KeynoteJul 25 17:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Interview with Nathan Willis, GUADEC Keynote Speaker | Tux MachinesJul 25 17:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - SecondJul 25 18:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2014 | Tux MachinesJul 25 18:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation SysAdmin Aric Gardner Avoids aJul 25 18:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How open sourcing Android made it a mobileJul 25 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 market leader http://t.co/Om9IGLMoqfJul 25 18:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How open sourcing Android made it a mobile market leader | Tux MachinesJul 25 18:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SysAdmin Day 2014: Best Linux FoundationJul 25 18:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nouveau vs. Radeon vs. Intel Tests On LinuxJul 25 19:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Control Center 3.13.4 Gets More HiDPIJul 25 19:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Acer sees booming sales of Chromebooks, saysJul 25 19:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CoreOS Stable Release http://t.co/TZqBOPXgf0Jul 25 19:46
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFChttp://dailydoseofexcel.com/archives/category/Bugs/Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFCJust for the lulz. I'm surprised that so many people get away with using Microsoft Office, especially Excel.Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFCExcel has hundreds of bugs, very few of them get fixed, some of them have been there for 10 years or more. It can swell up to use gigabytes of RAM. It has floating point rounding errors that produce bizarre and hilariously incorrect data.....Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFCThen there was this....Jul 25 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dailydoseofexcel.com | Daily Dose of Excel » Bugs [ http://ur1.ca/htv6x ]Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/04/microsoft-excel-the-ruiner-of-global-economies/Jul 25 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Microsoft Excel: The ruiner of global economies? | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/dewwr ]Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFCEven when people aren't running into the bugs, they often use it wrong, and produce disastrous results.Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFCIn order to get Microsoft compatibility, you have to reproduce all their bugs too, which is why you shouldn't use Microsoft Office export filters from LibreOffice, unless there's absolutely no other option. LibreOffice uses a more accurate arithmetic library, while Microsoft keeps shipping broken software. When you use Microsoft export filters, LibreOffice has to emulate problems with Microsoft Office, which could cause you some of the same Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFCproblems as using Microsoft Office in the first place.Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFCMicrosoft wants to convince everyone that you need a 'spensive Windoze computer to use 'spensive office software. Theirs, of course. I say, pass.....Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFCAlthough I'm *told* that Microsoft supports OASIS OpenDocument 1.2 now in MS Office 2013, I'd be treading lightly, unless you want MS Office exporting its bugs into your ODF files!Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFCI'm so glad that I don't have to use any of this company's software, ever. Why should Office be any different than anything else that has the Microsoft warning label on it?Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFCHow is this post related to the topic? Microsoft says that you need the crappy underpowered Windoze laptop so you can load MS Office on it. Tell me how that works out. Hint: Flipping it over and trying to max out the RAM later for almost as much as the laptop cost does not count.Jul 25 19:47
DaemonFCMicrosoft doesn't really have an operating system built for the cloud. They have one that's meant to run bulky locally-installed software that needs 'spensive hardware. Jul 25 19:48
DaemonFCAnd a low-end Celeron with small amounts of RAM just isn't up to the task that Microsoft says you need their underpowered Windoze laptops for in the first place. Jul 25 19:50
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DaemonFC Warren Holzem says:Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFCPeople have accused me of being an Amazon fan boi, but I can assure you that I have no interest in owning:Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFC1. Kindle Fire,Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFC2. Fire TV,Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFC3. Fire Phone.Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFCThey all take outdated Android systems, and alter them in ways that make them incompatible with too many things out there. There are better alternatives to all of them on that point alone.Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFCSlapping an Amazon logo on these pieces of junk doesn't make them better. Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFCWell, you can't talk sense into some people.Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFCI told people not to buy a Nokia X. I got a lot of abuse for that. One woman on Amazon said she got them for her whole family.Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFCMicrosoft officially bought Nokia, declared the Nokia X unsupported, and now the woman who told me that I needed to quit dissing Microsoft has a Nokia X, and so does her family.Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFCYou need to tread lightly when you're dealing with broken Android forks that use old versions of the AOSP and aren't Google Certified. Of course they're not entirely compatible. They're missing most of the APIs, or they include lame replacements that the distributor put in with no thought and no care.Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFCAmazon's phone is also less secure, because you're missing Verify Apps and other defense mechanisms. So, don't go too far off the reservation and try to sideload apps. You can do that safely from a modern Real Android phone, but not from a Fire Phone.Jul 25 20:13
DaemonFCHere there be dragons! Jul 25 20:13
MinceRat least older versions of android have less of the idiotic restrictions google keeps adding :>Jul 25 20:17
DaemonFC J. S. Cooper says:Jul 25 20:25
DaemonFCMost people use Office and its associated applications because that's what they use at work. Outlook, Word, Excel, PowerPoint.Jul 25 20:25
DaemonFCThose who don't use whatever is easiest and cheapest to do what they need. Jul 25 20:25
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 25 20:25
DaemonFCThat's the thing though. Microsoft Office is not easy to use, and neither is Windoze. Neither are stable or well supported. Neither are cheap. Neither of them run well on an affordable computer.Jul 25 20:25
DaemonFCI think that Chrome OS and alternative office suites have more than one foothold here. If Microsoft simply dumps Windoze for "free" and tells OEMs to play ball and create awful computers just to get them down to $200, they still have all the other problems I listed.Jul 25 20:25
DaemonFCGoing back to ease of use... If Excel was easy to use, then those economists wouldn't have produced that report that sent everyone into a panic over the economy. Jul 25 20:25
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 25 20:50
DaemonFCI think what I like the most about Chrome OS and Android is that Bill Gates said that someday you'd just sign into any computer and all your stuff would just be there, and then Google invented that, and Microsoft is panicking because they have nothing. Jul 25 20:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://t.co/5vV90nvSzx (www.x.org) FoundationJul 25 20:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Gaming: If You Build It, Will They Come?Jul 25 20:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Elive 2.3.4 Beta Is a Nice OS Based on DebianJul 25 20:55
TweetTuxMachines                 and Enlightenment - ScreenshotsJul 25 20:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Elive 2.3.4 Beta Is a Nice OS Based on Debian and Enlightenment - Screenshots | Tux MachinesJul 25 20:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The security flaws in Tails Linux are not itsJul 25 22:04
TweetTuxMachines                 only problem http://t.co/GQQBpsKYOWJul 25 22:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Guix 0.7 Can Now Install The GNU OperatingJul 25 22:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.13.4 released http://t.co/taWi0poQWEJul 25 22:05
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DaemonFCObama is getting ready to sign a bill that makes it legal to unlock your phone when your contract expires with your carrier or you pay off your phone.Jul 26 00:25
DaemonFCIt should be utterly illegal for carriers to lock the phone without providing a way for the customer to unlock it at the push of a button when they finish paying it off to begin with.Jul 26 00:25
DaemonFChttp://www.zdnet.com/farewell-iphone-4-no-ios-8-upgrade-for-you-7000030161/Jul 26 00:25
DaemonFCThis won't help crapple hypephone customers too much. When Apple cuts off iOS upgrades, the party's over, because nobody else can support it and the phone is broken forever.Jul 26 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Farewell iPhone 4: No iOS 8 upgrade for you | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/htx7n ]Jul 26 00:25
DaemonFChttp://www.cyanogenmod.org/Jul 26 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyanogenmod.org | CyanogenMod | Android Community Operating SystemJul 26 00:25
DaemonFChttp://paranoidandroid.co/Jul 26 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paranoidandroid.co | Stay ParanoidJul 26 00:25
DaemonFCOn the Android side of things, you can just install CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, or other alternative firmware, and then who cares what Samsung or LG do? Jul 26 00:25
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/congress-passes-cell-phone-unlocking-bill-finally/Jul 26 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Congress finally passes cell phone unlocking bill | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/htx7q ]Jul 26 00:25
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 26 00:26
DaemonFCLinux would work fine on a $200 computer that I saw on special at Newegg the other day, and you can load LibreOffice on it too.Jul 26 00:26
DaemonFCLike I said. Linux runs fine on computers where Windon't. The fact that Windows doesn't run well on low end computers never stops companies from selling low end computers with Windows on them.Jul 26 00:26
DaemonFCThe $200 PC I spoke of had a quad core 2 Ghz Haswell Celeron and 4 GB of RAM (with an empty slot, so you could pop in another 4 GB). It's not fancy, and for some reason, they bogged it down with Windows 8.1, but it's nothing a little hard drive formatting couldn't solve. The components bought separately would cost more than the PC did on sale, so a throwaway copy of Windows is just a minor annoyance.Jul 26 00:26
DaemonFCI even remember some companies selling Windows XP on systems with only 128 MB of RAM. It barely ran at all. So, this special that I saw is the 2014 version of that. Jul 26 00:27
cubexyzI used to know a guy who ran win95 on a 386sx with 4 megs of ram :)Jul 26 00:50
cubexyzit was awful, as you can imagineJul 26 00:50
DaemonFCIt wasn't pleasant on a 486 DX 66.Jul 26 00:58
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/adult/ref=cm_cd_rvt?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx3ACD40HQ3U7KNJul 26 00:58
DaemonFCuhhhmJul 26 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Adult forum [ http://ur1.ca/htxgd ]Jul 26 00:58
DaemonFCoh myJul 26 00:58
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 26 01:13
DaemonFCD. Snow: "nobody under 40 uses Apple products"Jul 26 01:13
DaemonFCIt probably helps that Macs are utterly useless for video gaming. My five year old PC is still better for video games than a new Mac. So why would anyone my age get a Mac?Jul 26 01:13
DaemonFCIf all you want to do is use Facebook, that's fine. I dig it. But, there's got to be a way to get that done without paying $900 for a Macbook Air that can't handle much else.Jul 26 01:13
DaemonFCDid someone say, "Chromebook"? Jul 26 01:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wireless speakers stream audio from web andJul 26 01:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wireless speakers stream audio from web and WLAN | Tux MachinesJul 26 01:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Ships Third Beta of Applications andJul 26 01:25
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Aless88hey guys, can someone tell any good sources for learning about patents?Jul 26 03:36
Aless88let us just discuss the following situation:Jul 26 03:37
Aless88you have a business;Jul 26 03:37
Aless88person X sees that your business is growing;Jul 26 03:38
Aless88the same person files an application for a patentJul 26 03:38
Aless88the patent is about the idea your business revolves aroundJul 26 03:38
Aless88his application gets approved and he holds that patentJul 26 03:39
Aless88he then says you can no longer keep your businessJul 26 03:39
Aless88because it is in violation of the aforementioned patentJul 26 03:40
Aless88can you defend yourself against this?Jul 26 03:40
Aless88is this even possible?Jul 26 03:40
Aless88and any sources/literature about patents would be greatly appreciatedJul 26 03:41
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/whos-banned-from-editing-wikipedia-this-week/Jul 26 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Who’s banned from editing Wikipedia this week? Congress | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/htzeg ]Jul 26 07:22
DaemonFCOne of the Reptilian shape shifters in Congress is using KDE 2 on FreeBSD and wants to edit Wikipedia to tell you how to do it, apparently.Jul 26 07:22
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_does_one_patch_KDE2_under_FreeBSDJul 26 07:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | How does one patch KDE2 under FreeBSD? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/htzf1 ]Jul 26 07:26
DaemonFCApparently, it's a Russian internet meme.Jul 26 07:26
DaemonFCSo, apparently Valve delayed the Steambox for a year so that it could fuck around with the controller design some more. In the mean time, all of the hardware partners that showed off the Steambox at CES are going to release them as Windows computers now.Jul 26 07:36
DaemonFCIs Valve TRYING to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory!?Jul 26 07:36
MinceRfacepalmJul 26 08:33
MinceRhttp://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/2bphjp/getting_married_in_heaven/Jul 26 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Getting Married in Heaven : Jokes [ http://ur1.ca/htzsf ]Jul 26 08:35
DaemonFChttp://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/27b6hn/1010_and_still_no_mention_of_an_hfs_replacement/Jul 26 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | 10.10 and still no mention of an HFS+ replacement : apple [ http://ur1.ca/hu04f ]Jul 26 09:25
DaemonFCMinceR bait.Jul 26 09:25
DaemonFChttp://www.engadget.com/2014/07/25/bose-sues-beats/Jul 26 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Now that Apple is buying Beats, Bose sues over noise-cancelling patents [ http://ur1.ca/hu04l ]Jul 26 09:27
DaemonFCBose is for old farts with too much money. Jul 26 09:27
DaemonFCNo highs, no lows, it must be Bose.Jul 26 09:28
MinceR:>Jul 26 09:28
DaemonFCI have a Bose waveradio. They were selling those things for outrageous sums of money back in the 90s.Jul 26 09:29
DaemonFCI found it at a garage sale.Jul 26 09:29
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DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose_Corporation#Technical_data_not_publishedJul 26 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bose Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/hu056 ]Jul 26 09:31
DaemonFC"Discussion of the quality of Bose products can sometimes elicit strong and polarized opinions. Some see Bose as a maker of high-end equipment, while others see Bose as a company that uses marketing to make extravagant claims for otherwise ordinary products."Jul 26 09:31
DaemonFCMaybe Apple should just buy them.Jul 26 09:31
DaemonFC"A July 2012 review by NBC News of the $5,000 46" Bose TV noted that the video screen, produced by Samsung, resembles most closely a $750 flat panel television, and that the technology used is not up to par with other screens in the same category. The review then questions the value of the additional $4,260 cost for the Bose TV, suggesting there are compelling audio alternatives for less than 1/5th the price difference."Jul 26 09:32
DaemonFCThat sounds exactly like Apple.Jul 26 09:32
DaemonFCI'd better watch out. Bose has a tendency to sue everyone that doesn't like their products for libel.Jul 26 09:34
DaemonFCHmmm, Harman. They make some expensive sound systems too.Jul 26 09:35
DaemonFCApple was pushing them hard when the PowerMacs still roamed the Earth.Jul 26 09:35
DaemonFCI remember laughing that the idiots that bought 128k AAC files were listening to them on those.Jul 26 09:37
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SosumiBOSE = Bring Another Sound EngineerJul 26 09:45
SosumiBOSE = Buy Another Sound EquipmentJul 26 09:45
SosumiHarman are also kind of overpriced for what you getJul 26 09:46
Sosumibest brands to go in the audio department are usually B&W, Dynaudio, KEFJul 26 09:47
Sosumibut BOSE is one to avoid at bestJul 26 09:47
Guest15650https://twitter.com/jerezim/status/492949040372654080Jul 26 09:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org | The NSA's New Partner in Spying: Saudi Arabia's Brutal State Police - The InterceptJul 26 09:50
Guest15650Faegre Baker Daniels LLP | CIA Lawyer Joins Litigation Team at ...Jul 26 09:51
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Guest15650afraid of dolls: http://global.christianpost.com/news/church-member-reponsible-for-leaving-disturbing-dolls-in-calif-neighborhood-123870/Jul 26 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-global.christianpost.com | Church Member Reponsible for Leaving 'Disturbing' Dolls in Calif. Neighborhood [ http://ur1.ca/hu0hh ]Jul 26 10:12
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Guest15650http://www.thedailystar.net/muslim-brotherhood-jamaat-e-islami-and-global-jihad-34891Jul 26 10:30
Guest15650"American presidents from Eisenhower to Obama have been responsible for the phenomenal rise of Islamist forces throughout the Muslim World. Hillary Clinton and some top American diplomats and politicians have publicly admitted that the Cold War exigencies had led their country to support Islamist forces, including the Afghan Mujahedeen and those who later founded al-Qaeda. We also know that in 1953, while Eisenhower flirted with the Jul 26 10:30
Guest15650ayatollahs on the eve of the CIA-led military coup that toppled a democratically elected government in Iran, both Carter and Reagan legitimised General Zia ul-Haq's pro-Jamaat-e-Islami Islamist military dictatorship in Pakistan (1977-1988). "Jul 26 10:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailystar.net | STRANGER THAN FICTION | Muslim Brotherhood, Jamaat-e-Islami and global jihad | (Part 1 of 3 part series) [ http://ur1.ca/hu0kp ]Jul 26 10:30
Guest15650Russia rag: http://en.ria.ru/burning_point/20140723/191259876/-Mr-President-Your-Own-CIA-Says-What-Russians-Say-What-Are-We.htmlJul 26 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.ria.ru | Mr. President, Your Own CIA Says What Russians Say. What Are We Gonna Do? - Paul Roberts | Burning Point | RIA Novosti [ http://ur1.ca/hu0mi ]Jul 26 10:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GOG's Mistaken Giveaway, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS,Jul 26 11:01
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Guest94981I don't like the author, but in this case he's onto something true: http://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-and-snowden-in-hong-kong-2014-7Jul 26 11:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | WikiLeaks And Snowden In Hong Kong - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/hu113 ]Jul 26 11:51
Guest94981http://www.talkradionews.com/politics-2/2014/07/25/union-preservation-dick-cheney-man-wikileaks-takes-stage.html#.U9OH0KGm1sEJul 26 11:51
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schesto" ‘extrajudicial means’ is hardly a primary issue here. "Jul 26 12:20
schestohttp://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-9-263772-Neither-the-question-nor-the-answerJul 26 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenews.com.pk | Neither the question nor the answer - Daanish Hussain [ http://ur1.ca/hu17i ]Jul 26 12:20
schestoSo now it's all OKJul 26 12:20
schestobecause they are "bad"Jul 26 12:20
schestoReturning fear to headlinesJul 26 12:33
schestohttp://www.punemirror.in/news/world/Aside-Terror-plot-foiled-by-bad-personal-hygiene/articleshow/38999527.cmsJul 26 12:33
schesto" Asked why Abdulmutallab's attempt had failed, John Pistole from the Transportation Security Administration told the Aspen Security Forum, "He had the device with him for over two weeks. It was degraded...it's efficacy was degraded.""Jul 26 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.punemirror.in | Aside: Terror plot foiled by bad personal hygiene - Pune Mirror [ http://ur1.ca/hu19r ]Jul 26 12:33
schestohttp://www.middleeasteye.net/news/rescue-teams-gaza-s-front-lines-2040108694Jul 26 12:35
schesto"“These Israeli ‘Knock on the Roof’ drone-missile warnings are injuring and killing so many people, demolishing homes and bringing the roof down on top of their heads” he says, driving toward Nasser Street area, in central Gaza City. - See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/rescue-teams-gaza-s-front-lines-2040108694#sthash.oyOAB929.dpuf"Jul 26 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.middleeasteye.net | Rescue teams: On Gaza’s front-lines | Middle East Eye [ http://ur1.ca/hu1ac ]Jul 26 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.middleeasteye.net | News | Middle East Eye [ http://ur1.ca/hu1ad ]Jul 26 12:35
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Guest13831https://twitter.com/SEEVed/status/493006991107715072Jul 26 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SEEVed: @schestowitz ha from the same whitewashpost that tows the govts propaganda line.Jul 26 13:23
Guest13831yes, CIAPost (Bezos/Amazon/CIA/WashPo)Jul 26 13:23
Guest13831"The world requires global leadership from the United States"Jul 26 13:42
Guest13831LOLJul 26 13:42
Guest13831http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/speak-easy/speak-easy-feature/item/70793-4-ways-america-should-respond-to-a-world-in-chaos&Itemid=219&linktype=hp_speakeasyJul 26 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsworks.org | 4 ways America should respond to a world in chaos — NewsWorks [ http://ur1.ca/hu1oo ]Jul 26 13:42
Guest13831http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech-edge/jay-rockefeller-wants-to-revolutionize-the-way-you-watch-tv-20140724Jul 26 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nationaljournal.com | Jay Rockefeller Wants to Revolutionize the Way You Watch TV - NationalJournal.com [ http://ur1.ca/hu1t7 ]Jul 26 14:05
Guest13831http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hillary-clinton-the-reset-worked-with-russia/Jul 26 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freebeacon.com | Hillary Clinton: 'The Reset Worked' With Russia | Washington Free Beacon [ http://ur1.ca/hu1tz ]Jul 26 14:10
SosumihahahahahaJul 26 14:23
Sosumithe reset “worked” indeedJul 26 14:23
Sosumi“worked”Jul 26 14:24
Sosumi:)Jul 26 14:24
Guest13831yeahJul 26 14:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Games | Tux MachinesJul 26 14:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/QOd2PMRHOSJul 26 14:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 26 14:42
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chomzeehi!Jul 26 18:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/9MuZCpQDR0Jul 26 19:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJul 26 19:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linus Torvalds On GCC 4.9: Pure & Utter CrapJul 26 19:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds On GCC 4.9: Pure & Utter Crap | Tux MachinesJul 26 19:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cauldron 2014: GCC & LLVM Will Look ToJul 26 19:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Collaborate More http://t.co/nN1SBumX9LJul 26 19:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cauldron 2014: GCC & LLVM Will Look To Collaborate More | Tux MachinesJul 26 19:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Six Clicks: The best Linux desktop environments | Tux MachinesJul 26 19:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GCC Receives ACM’s 2014 Programming LanguagesJul 26 19:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GCC Receives ACM’s 2014 Programming Languages Software Award | Tux MachinesJul 26 19:18
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schestowitz> Hi!Jul 26 19:29
schestowitz> Jul 26 19:29
schestowitz> We've taken our GCT game to the next level! :)Jul 26 19:29
schestowitz> We've rebranded it and now we hit steam greenlight and indie go go.Jul 26 19:29
schestowitz> Jul 26 19:29
schestowitz> We'd appreciate if you shared an information about that fact to otherJul 26 19:29
schestowitz> people who may be interested in it. :)Jul 26 19:29
schestowitz> Jul 26 19:29
schestowitz> Our new website is:Jul 26 19:29
schestowitz> http://street-arena.com/Jul 26 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-street-arena.com | Street ArenaJul 26 19:29
schestowitz> Jul 26 19:29
schestowitz> Thank you in advance, regards,Jul 26 19:29
schestowitzAwesome site.Jul 26 19:29
__martin__P2P blocked as a whole on mine.. Jul 26 19:45
__martin__http://torrentfreak.com/university-sets-fines-worse-for-pirating-students-140724/Jul 26 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | University Sets Fines & Worse For Pirating Students | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/htzow ]Jul 26 19:45
DaemonFChttp://cdn.meme.li/instances/500x/52990168.jpgJul 26 19:47
DaemonFCUniversities are fining you for that now?Jul 26 19:58
DaemonFCI don't suppose you can use a secure VPN.Jul 26 19:58
__martin__Nope, that is an article for an U.S. based one. We have like +-11MB/s downlink, but P2P filter. I yet have to speak with the head of mine faculty about vendor lock-in. There has been a Vi$ta8 tablet shipment recently out of nowhere.. and seemingly their will be soon contracting someone with task to create a virtual - AI tutor for selected pupils/attendees.Jul 26 20:01
DaemonFCThe library blocks bittorrent, but svpn seems to evade that.Jul 26 20:02
__martin__For master's degree, the ministry of education made new acreditation to first-time introduced study programme - Forestry technologies. So there lies my hope.. if am able to finish the bachelor's thesis next year on accuracy of GNSS systems under forest "rooftop" @ age of 24. (=Jul 26 20:05
__martin__Place of residence where am I right now, is already multicultural, there are like three main/major ethnic grops. The Roma, Hungarians and we Slovaks. Unemployment rate 30+-% of population whereas most companies stick with WinXP and rely on Facebook.Jul 26 20:06
__martin__Establishment is present in almost every action of ordinary cizizen, however surrounding environment is not on par with pollution in other areas of country or global pollution average levels.Jul 26 20:07
__martin__See http://vraji.sk/Jul 26 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vraji.sk | Vraji.sk - ÚvodJul 26 20:08
__martin__University in different urban area still runs on XPs (13 yr old "system") although servers have some outdated UNIX backend with relatively fool-proof UIS running on top of ApacheJul 26 20:13
__martin__..Jul 26 20:13
__martin__DaemonFC: http://bayfiles.net/file/1ipyl/1i045L/uis_apache.png ;DJul 26 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bayfiles.net | BayFiles [ http://ur1.ca/hu3sa ]Jul 26 20:14
__martin__Btw, folks.. Rubén of Trisquel project speaks live in twenty-something minutes. Do not miss it. (=Jul 26 20:23
__martin__http://www.openedjam.org/livestreamJul 26 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openedjam.org | Livestream | OpenEd JamJul 26 20:23
__martin__*an hour + 20mins / my bad / GTM+1 CESTJul 26 20:24
__martin__GMT**Jul 26 20:24
__martin__http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440&iso=20140726T2045&msg=Rub%C3%A9n%27s%20TalkJul 26 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeanddate.com | Generic Calendar/Clock - Countdown to Jul 26, 2014 8:45 PM in UTC [ http://ur1.ca/hu3u4 ]Jul 26 20:25
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schestowitz__martin__: thanks for the infoJul 26 21:19
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__martin__SOIT poznám, pozabudol som na nich. Naposledy bolo živo okolo sprístupňovania dát z verejného katastra.. Mám tušenie, že viacero linuxákov by sa našlo aj za portálom http://geoinformatika.sk/ a http://menejstatu.sk/; pričom v druhom prípade autor Tibor Peták spravuje slovenské domény http://gnu.sk/ a http://gpl.sk/ kde sa na nachádza lokalizácia tretej iterácie známej licencie.Jul 26 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geoinformatika.sk | GEOINFORMATIKA.sk | Komunitný GEO portál pre používateľov geografických informácií, systémov a technológiíJul 26 21:25
__martin__Off-topic: Dovolím si ale podotknúť, že našou najväčšou osobnosťou doma a v zahraničí uvedomujúcou si potenciál a aspekty slobodného softvéru je Martin Husovec aka Huťo. http://www.husovec.eu/ | http://www.linkedin.com/in/husovec | https://twitter.com/hutko | http://blog.eisionline.org/author/martin-husovec/ | o.i. aj aktívny Fellow európskej odnože bostonskej FSF - FSFE.Jul 26 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.menejstatu.sk | Menej štátu | … viac slobodyJul 26 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gpl.sk | GNU General Public LicenseJul 26 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.husovec.eu | Huťko´s Technology Law BlogJul 26 21:26
__martin__Toto vlákno som založil z vidinou možnosti širšej prezentácie IT riešení založených na univerzálnom šírení vedomostí, pretože mainstreamové médiá majú na špecifické témy a kľúčové slová uvalené informačné embargo.Jul 26 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linkedin.com | Martin Husovec | LinkedInJul 26 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twitter.com | Martin Husovec (hutko) on TwitterJul 26 21:26
__martin__Prečo si myslím, že "aktuálny" predseda by miesto posunul z radosťou ďalej? Pri poslednom meetupe vo vlaku pôsobil ako príliš zaneprázdnený človek, nakoľko má rozbehnutých viacero vecí povedzme aj typu patentovateľnej technológie pre zvýšenie efektívnosti solárnych kolektorov v spolupráci z jeho známymi spomedzi Izraelského tech sektora. Stallmanovu The Free Software Song mi ale zanôtil na údiv okolitej Jul 26 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.eisionline.org | Martin Husovec « MicroBlog Priateľov EISi [ http://ur1.ca/hu47s ]Jul 26 21:26
__martin__Emdi a či Stano, dodoedo?! Je to na vás. Kontakt je jasan@x31.com, mailing listy treba ale oživiť.Jul 26 21:26
__martin__PS: Pre tých ktorí nemajú tú česť, Jasan na ISOC.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErMgqXAdzHsJul 26 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Jan Sarenik's wish for the future of the Internet - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/hu47u ]Jul 26 21:26
__martin__aye, pasted wrong buffer altogether =SJul 26 21:26
__martin__sorryJul 26 21:26
__martin__this!Jul 26 21:26
__martin__< quidam> I may do the talk offline, and upload the videoJul 26 21:26
__martin__21:44 < quidam> because the network is not very stable, and if the video doesn't stream properly it crashes.Jul 26 21:26
schestowitzwhat does the above mean in English?Jul 26 21:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ripe Linux Nits To Pick http://t.co/7lau2eDAzAJul 26 21:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ripe Linux Nits To Pick | Tux MachinesJul 26 21:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OnePlus coming to India! http://t.co/7n1XpEu90TJul 26 21:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OnePlus coming to India! | Tux MachinesJul 26 21:36
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__martin__schestowitz: it was my reply to our biggest sole active gnu/linux community http://linuxos.sk/; there I made a thread that our used-to-be user group needs new leader.. since I know the old one in person and want to help someone new become the chairman of http://sklug.sk/Jul 26 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxos.sk | LinuxOS.sk - slovenský linuxový portálJul 26 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sklug.sk | SKLUG (Slovenské združenie používateľov Linuxu)Jul 26 21:49
__martin__schestowitz: am ofc not that husovec guy, he is a professional lawayer that hates sw pats, am just a student, mere fsf & kopimi activist (=Jul 26 21:50
__martin__lawyer*Jul 26 21:50
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4468238Jul 26 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Groklaw Back in the Wake of #ODF in the UK? http://techrights.org/2014/07/26/groklaw-may-be-back/Jul 26 22:01
schestowitz"Jul 26 22:01
schestowitzThis is great news but I did not see it in the article itself. Did I miss something, or did you say that the renewed activity is in Grocklaw's News Pics where someone quotes Andy Updegrove's Standards Blog,Jul 26 22:01
schestowitz    The U.K. Cabinet Office accomplished today what the Commonwealth of Massachusetts set out (unsuccessfully) to achieve ten years ago: it formally required compliance with the Open Document Format (ODF) by software to be purchased in the future across all government bodies. Compliance with any of the existing versions of OOXML, the competing document format championed by Microsoft, is neither required nor relevant. The announcement Jul 26 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Groklaw Back in the Wake of ODF in the UK? | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/hu4ev ]Jul 26 22:01
schestowitzwas made today by The Minister for the Cabinet Office, Francis Maude....Jul 26 22:01
schestowitz    The adoption of only ODF - and not also OOXML, as was urged by Microsoft - is most significant for the degree of market adoption and legitimization it will necessarily lead to. Unlike OOXML, which exists in several versions in the marketplace (and was not adopted even by Microsoft in the ISO/IEC approved "strict" form until years after its adoption by those organizations), ODF exists in more settled forms. Use of ODF-compliant Jul 26 22:01
schestowitzsoftware by tens of thousands of U.K. government workers will provide incentives to Microsoft to take greater pains to ensure that documents saved in ODF form will preserve their formatting with greater integrity, since many open source office suites (such as LibreOffice and OpenOffice) are available for free.Jul 26 22:01
schestowitz"Jul 26 22:01
schestowitzLast time before PJ returned she had posted stuff in News Picks, later adding "PJ" to it (while supposedly having retired)Jul 26 22:01
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chomzeehi allJul 26 22:20
schestowitzHiJul 26 22:24
schestowitz__martin__: lawyers are often opportunists when it comes to FOSSJul 26 22:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4460826Jul 26 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Bribes for pro- #israel #propaganda http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/students-offered-grants-if-they-tweet-proisraeli-propaganda-8760142.html how low will those Hawks stoop?Jul 26 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | Students offered grants if they tweet pro-Israeli propaganda - Middle East - World - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/htzoq ]Jul 26 22:32
schestowitz"But having education is not the same as being ethical, you would expect that an educated people would behave better but that's not always the case. Giving scholarships might sent the wrong message: if you do what you're told no matter what you will reap the benefits. In my country the military also gives scholarships but in military schools, that means that you will have housing and meals if you attend their high school, and if you Jul 26 22:32
schestowitzattend the military university you will have the same plus an almost useless degree outside the military. Only the most poor but dedicated enroll in the military..."Jul 26 22:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 20 00:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/mstxUGA529Jul 20 00:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 20 00:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/vTvzTgYM1bJul 20 00:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJul 20 00:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Tor, trust and the NSA http://t.co/UBSaTaulQyJul 20 04:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tor, trust and the NSA | Tux MachinesJul 20 04:00
TweetTuxMachines@baseanswers     ODF(tm) World News is out!Jul 20 04:00
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_et_md_pl?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx20DX5GEB7TUX8&cdMsgID=Mx3CNEQTLD0OBRC&cdMsgNo=77&cdPage=4&cdSort=oldest&cdThread=Tx2719CL36XLD7S#Mx3CNEQTLD0OBRCJul 20 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: iphone 5 crashed,anyone recommend anything?? [ http://ur1.ca/hsgjp ]Jul 20 09:43
DaemonFC"I have a feeling that when you try to install OS X "Mavericks" on your pre-2007 Mac and find that Apple has deprecated something that you still might use every day, they're not going to help you do anything other than buy an expensive new Mac.Jul 20 09:43
DaemonFCLinux still runs on all Macs. Even the Core Solo Mac Mini from 2006. Jul 20 09:43
DaemonFCYou don't have to wait for Apple to declare your hardware deprecated to upgrade to Linux though. Linux is for everybody. Your Mac will almost certainly even be faster than it was before after the upgrade. It's not like GNOME and KDE don't have their $20,000 toilet seats in terms of components that use system resources just because they want to behave more like Windows and Mac, but there are lots of options! Even the most piggish Linux Jul 20 09:43
DaemonFCdesktop environment (KDE) is nowhere near as bad as Windows on resource usage.Jul 20 09:43
DaemonFChttp://www.howtogeek.com/163154/linux-users-have-a-choice-8-linux-desktop-environments/Jul 20 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | Linux Users Have a Choice: 8 Linux Desktop Environments [ http://ur1.ca/dx9jg ]Jul 20 09:43
DaemonFCThe real sticking points that will keep me from buying a Mac are the obscene price, the bad Apple software, and the fact that the hardware is frequently underpowered and impossible to upgrade or service by me, the end user. This comes together to create a relatively short usable life for a Mac computer. You're better off with Linux on PC."Jul 20 09:43
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 10:12
DaemonFCThe Android One will only be $100. The iPhone 5c is $549.Jul 20 10:12
DaemonFCFor that price, you could buy five Android Ones, smash four of them, and still be $50 ahead.Jul 20 10:12
DaemonFC78% of all smartphone sales are <$200. Jul 20 10:14
DaemonFCAt the extreme low end, some people buy Windows phones because Microsoft is selling them below cost to try to create a market for them. Microsoft has tried introducing Windows phones with better specs. I've never seen anyone buy them. Jul 20 10:14
DaemonFCAndroid One will be the end of Windows Phone.Jul 20 10:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Android One phone landing in October?Jul 20 10:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Android One phone landing in October? | Tux MachinesJul 20 10:14
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DaemonFCSomeone told me that Amazon made a Kindle "cloud reader" web app that runs in modern web browsers. I've never used Kindle before because of the Digital Restrictions Management[1], but I decided that since there would be no software to install, and Amazon does have some "free" books to test it out with, I thought I would give it a spin, just for kicks.Jul 20 11:31
DaemonFCThanks Amazon.Jul 20 11:31
DaemonFCThis is the most flagrant abuse of Javascript I've ever seen. Actually, it's not Javascript. It's more like "Obfuscript", to make it more difficult to figure out how their DRM works, so that you can't copy and paste text.Jul 20 11:31
DaemonFCCould you have possibly made this stupid thing any slower?Jul 20 11:31
DaemonFCYour coding horror made my quad core desktop computer feel like I was trying to scroll through a Microsoft Office file on a 300 Mhz Pentium 2.Jul 20 11:31
DaemonFC[1] http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon-kindle-swindleJul 20 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.defectivebydesign.org | Amazon's Kindle Swindle | Defective by Design [ http://ur1.ca/1bjp3 ]Jul 20 11:31
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsKRTiGmHJoJul 20 11:58
DaemonFCLG G3 vs. iPhone 5sJul 20 11:58
DaemonFCI loved the part where the iPhone screen was sharper and easier to read when viewed through the LG G3's camera than it was by looking directly at the iPhone's screen.Jul 20 11:58
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Sosumidon’t install gnu/linux on core macJul 20 12:08
Sosumivoltage regulation on those machines is done through the smcJul 20 12:09
Sosumiand without the smc driver you’ll end up frying the cpuJul 20 12:09
Sosumijust like don’t install windows on those machines without the apple provided bootcamp driverJul 20 13:01
Sosumior you’ll get the same problemJul 20 13:01
DaemonFC WakkyWabbit says:Jul 20 13:11
DaemonFCDobbs,Jul 20 13:11
DaemonFCInteresting. I have the app on a somewhat old and slow 10 inch netbook with one of those Atom processors and it is also on my SG3 phone. On both devices, the app works great and is as fast as all three of my Kindles. Jul 20 13:11
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 13:11
DaemonFCI have a Phenom II X4 945 and a Geforce 560 GTX and Amazon's cloud reader is so slow, it's like scrolling through a web page using the VESA driver from Windows XP.Jul 20 13:11
DaemonFCMaybe I'll use Kindle when Amazon lets me save a file to my hard drive and open it up in Evince, without all this laggy encumbering Kindle garbage layered on top, so that you can't retain data that you paid for.Jul 20 13:11
DaemonFCSeriously. I played Skyrim under Wine on this thing recently, but books lag? Jul 20 13:11
DaemonFCThis is clearly a regression. Real books don't render slowly and require piss poor software in order to read them. I also know that I can keep my real books forever, regardless of what Amazon's future business plans are. Jul 20 13:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "I'll Be Back" -- After Reviving Meego Dreams,Jul 20 13:45
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 14:38
DaemonFCNo. They *should* just use the simplest solution that works, which is to give me the damned file.Jul 20 14:38
DaemonFCThis isn't the fastest machine in the world, but it's still faster than, say, a $1,100 iMac.Jul 20 14:38
DaemonFCIt still kicks some butt as far I I'm concerned. I still game on it. GNOME is fast and buttery smooth. Video playback is fantastic. Applications load at the snap of a finger.Jul 20 14:38
DaemonFCI just wish people would ditch proprietary software that is designed to be treacherous and bloated, and to backstab their customer.Jul 20 14:38
DaemonFCThen computers would work well and we wouldn't need to say things like "Damned computers. Why doesn't this work as well as what we had before?". Jul 20 14:38
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 14:38
DaemonFCThe people running Amazon's Kindle store, and people who publish to it boil down to two kinds.Jul 20 14:38
DaemonFC1. They are ignorant.Jul 20 14:38
DaemonFCorJul 20 14:38
DaemonFC2. They're bad people who are doing disgusting things.Jul 20 14:38
DaemonFCI generally prefer to think that most of them are #1s, because then they're simply misguided and don't fully appreciate the harm that they are causing, vs. #2s, who are just bastards. Jul 20 14:38
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 14:58
DaemonFCIs there a list, somewhere, of all the books available without Digital Restrictions Malware, so I know who I can do business with just by looking at a particular page?Jul 20 14:58
DaemonFCBy the way, I'm obviously very serious here. If I wanted the book, there are easier ways. Since Amazon is stopping me from doing business with them, and acquiring it without DRM might involve something equally dishonest as a publisher that uses DRM in the first place, and two wrongs don't make a right, I suppose that I'll just have to go to the library and/or continue buying old fashioned books.Jul 20 14:58
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DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 15:11
DaemonFCPeople who tell me to chuck my PC and downgrade to a Mac should be slapped severely.Jul 20 15:11
DaemonFCThe only excuse for using a Mac is if you're a 90 year old woman. And maybe not even then.Jul 20 15:11
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MinceRhttps://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8258956800/hAF35629C/Jul 20 16:09
DaemonFCSomeone said that my system is a kludge.Jul 20 16:10
DaemonFCI replied....Jul 20 16:10
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 20 16:10
DaemonFCYou're the one that told me to get a Mac.Jul 20 16:10
DaemonFCGizmodo reviewed the 2013 Mac Mini and had to go back to Half Life 2 (2004) to find a game that it could handle.Jul 20 16:10
DaemonFCThat's pathetic. For a $1,050 computer? Apple should kill themselves for this. It probably wouldn't know whether to **** or wind its wristwatch if you tried to run something from this decade on it.Jul 20 16:10
DaemonFCApple's the one that's kludging the crap out of their systems. Who cares if it has a fast CPU if you're stuck with integrated video and the hard drive is a dog? Really. Who wants that system? It's one of the most unbalanced systems I've seen. People buy these? Jul 20 16:10
SosumilolJul 20 16:25
SosumiI have no idea why bother with the macJul 20 16:25
Sosuminone of their machines allow for agpu swap nowJul 20 16:26
Sosumifolks with the trashcan pro, what if one of you rebranded underclocked radeon HD 7970 goes belly up?Jul 20 16:27
Sosumi*yourJul 20 16:27
Sosumistay without the computer for a weekJul 20 16:27
SosumilolJul 20 16:27
Sosumiand say goodbye to aftermarket updatesJul 20 16:28
Sosumifolks with the 2006 mac pro can still run mavericks with a hack in order for the installer to run on efi 32 bit machinesJul 20 16:29
Sosumiand have been able to swap their gpus for better ones all this timeJul 20 16:29
Sosumippl with the trashcan pro are already stuck in the pastJul 20 16:29
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Sosumialso on ukraineJul 20 16:30
SosumiUkranian army has been seen moving Buk launchpads across some parts of the countryJul 20 16:31
Sosumiwhat happened? apparently and untrained crew shot the airplane by accidentJul 20 16:31
Sosumi*anJul 20 16:31
Sosumiwhich kind of doesn’t make any sense since the pro russia forces in the field don’t have planesJul 20 16:31
Sosumiunless the fold them with paperJul 20 16:32
Sosumi*theyJul 20 16:32
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4432402Jul 20 16:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft could not destroy mobile #linux with a mole & bribe because it's multi-headed. Now even words (bribes to Gartner & IDC) helped.Jul 20 16:54
schestowitz"^^ multi threaded?? or multi headed?"Jul 20 16:54
schestowitzLots of distros and branches, so headsJul 20 16:54
schestowitz"I guess it mean there's Android, Meego, Tizen, etc."Jul 20 16:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4432298Jul 20 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #obama overplays one dead American [sic] (US) because apparently 200 dead Dutch are not the Good Guys http://www.whdh.com/story/26053935/obama-plane-shot-down-by-missile-1-american-deadJul 20 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.whdh.com | Obama: Malaysian Plane shot down by missile, 1 American dead - 7News Boston WHDH-TV [ http://ur1.ca/hsie4 ]Jul 20 16:56
schestowitz"But he likes killing americans with his drones - and watching "live" as an old man is shot in the face."Jul 20 16:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4432238Jul 20 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "US administration sought to pin the blame on separatists and Russia without waiting for...an investigation." http://www.asianage.com/international/russia-us-implicating-rebels-674Jul 20 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.asianage.com | Russia: US implicating rebels | The Asian Age [ http://ur1.ca/hsiee ]Jul 20 16:56
schestowitz"Not like you to just quote verbatim a government official as evidence. All you are doing is being a Russian spokesperson. If there is evidence, the Russians are sure taking their sweet time revealing them. Here's a compilation of evidence against the rebels by The Guardian."Jul 20 16:56
schestowitzWhen the Ukranian Nazis did their atrocities the Guardian not only did Russophobic propaganda but also deleted tons of comments it did not agree with, so I am still very careful and sceptical when it comes to its coverage in this region.Jul 20 16:57
schestowitzhttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/mh17-evidence-against-russiaJul 20 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | MH17: the evidence against Russia | World news | The Observer [ http://ur1.ca/hsiem ]Jul 20 16:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4431976Jul 20 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #china is having a field day http://www.chinapost.com.tw/commentary/the-china-post/arthur-cyr/2014/07/20/412783/US-intelligence.htm #nsa #espionage #surveillanceJul 20 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.chinapost.com.tw | US intelligence blunders pile up - The China Post [ http://ur1.ca/hsiet ]Jul 20 16:58
schestowitz"That's Taiwan - which makes it even more interesting."Jul 20 16:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Indian phone makers look to penetrate RussiaJul 20 17:28
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DaemonFCThe #1 best selling desktop on Amazon is now the Chromebox, and the #1 laptop is the Chromebook.Jul 20 18:02
DaemonFCThe price is an eyecatcher, I guess. Jul 20 18:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     EFF releases experimental open wireless routerJul 20 18:45
TweetTuxMachines                 firmware http://t.co/41YJLnslZUJul 20 18:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Geary Is Getting Ready to Take ThunderbirdJul 20 18:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Head-On http://t.co/VKmCciJe2PJul 20 18:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Geary Is Getting Ready to Take Thunderbird Head-On | Tux MachinesJul 20 18:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Issues Final Warning for Ubuntu OneJul 20 18:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Closure, Get Your Files NowJul 20 18:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Issues Final Warning for Ubuntu One Closure, Get Your Files Now | Tux MachinesJul 20 18:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BitKey: A secure, Debian-based Live OS forJul 20 19:23
TweetTuxMachines                 bitcoin transactions http://t.co/EEfL5Nokh0Jul 20 19:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BitKey: A secure, Debian-based Live OS for bitcoin transactions | Tux MachinesJul 20 19:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Geneva class-rooms switching to free softwareJul 20 19:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Geneva class-rooms switching to free software | Tux MachinesJul 20 19:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian 6.0.10 "Squeeze" Is Out and It's theJul 20 19:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Last Point Release http://t.co/hXLN9h2TFuJul 20 19:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 6.0.10 "Squeeze" Is Out and It's the Last Point Release | Tux MachinesJul 20 19:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma Active Continues Coming For Qt5/KF5Jul 20 19:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma Active Continues Coming For Qt5/KF5 | Tux MachinesJul 20 19:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Change the default search engine in Epiphany,Jul 20 19:58
TweetTuxMachines                 the GNOME Web applicationJul 20 19:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     My way to develop with git in KDE reposJul 20 19:58
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schestowitzolder :Jul 20 21:37
schestowitz" it taught me that the adage that a grand jury willJul 20 21:38
schestowitzindict a ham sandwich is an understatement. A betterJul 20 21:38
schestowitzdescription would be that the prosecution can show aJul 20 21:38
schestowitzgrand jury a shit sandwich and they will indict it asJul 20 21:38
schestowitzham without looking up from their newspapers."Jul 20 21:38
schestowitzhttp://www.popehat.com/2014/02/27/the-kaley-forfeiture-decision-what-it-looks-like-when-the-feds-make-their-ham-sandwich/Jul 20 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popehat.com | The Kaley Forfeiture Decision: What It Looks Like When The Feds Make Their Ham Sandwich | [ http://ur1.ca/hsjyn ]Jul 20 21:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Top 5 Linux Gaming EmulatorsJul 20 21:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The DragonBox Pyra Moves Closer As OpenPandoraJul 20 21:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wine 1.7.22 Arrives with Lots of Fixes forJul 20 22:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Standardized open source products are the keyJul 20 22:23
TweetTuxMachines                 to unlocking the lock-in trapJul 20 22:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GTK+ 3.13.4 Features a Much Improved AdwaitaJul 20 22:24
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DaemonFChttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Finland-Microsoft-Betrayed-Us-with-So-Many-Job-Cuts-451343.shtmlJul 20 23:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/X1aQgIhcvzJul 21 00:26
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4433975Jul 21 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: When #Detroit Shuts Off the Water of 100,000 People http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/07/what-happens-when-detroit-shuts-off-the-water-of-100000-people/374548/ killing its young, people who do hardest (physical) jobsJul 21 03:59
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schestowitz"US people must be enjoying savage capitalism as Soviets must have enjoyed savage communism. Russia is not communist anymore, would the US reconsider its system?"Jul 21 03:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4432238Jul 21 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "US administration sought to pin the blame on separatists and Russia without waiting for...an investigation." http://www.asianage.com/international/russia-us-implicating-rebels-674Jul 21 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.asianage.com | Russia: US implicating rebels | The Asian Age [ http://ur1.ca/hsiee ]Jul 21 03:59
schestowitz"Sure. But then there is parroting the Russian government rather than confronting the evidence so far."Jul 21 03:59
schestowitz"I don't see Roy blaming anyone but those quick to conclude without ecidence."Jul 21 03:59
schestowitz"He isn't blaming anyone. Merely restating the Russian statement in preference over the evidence of non-cooperation."Jul 21 03:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4433910Jul 21 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #uk ‘Friendly Wi-Fi’ a euphemism for #censorship to "protect the children" http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/friendly-wi-fi-aims-stop-porn-access-public-hotspots-149347 rejecting censorship is being unfriendly?Jul 21 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techweekeurope.co.uk | ‘Friendly Wi-Fi’ Aims To Stop Porn Access In Public Hotspots [ http://ur1.ca/hsltz ]Jul 21 04:00
schestowitz"Think of the children."Jul 21 04:00
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4431640Jul 21 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Op-Ed: Microsoft layoff e-mail typifies inhuman corporate insensitivity http://arstechnica.com/staff/2014/07/op-ed-microsoft-layoff-e-mail-typifies-inhuman-corporate-insensitivity/ #microsoft a socipathJul 21 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | Op-Ed: Microsoft layoff e-mail typifies inhuman corporate insensitivity | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/hrvdl ]Jul 21 04:01
schestowitz"That's a very typical US way of doing things, people is not made redundant that way in my country."Jul 21 04:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4434038Jul 21 04:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: One day in the future people may ask, when did the #uk become unhinged on law, Magna Carta etc. We live in interesting times...Jul 21 04:02
schestowitz"That's a Chinese curse you know. "May you live in interesting times"."Jul 21 04:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SAILFISH OS HARDWARE ADAPTATION DEV KIT RELEASEJul 21 05:13
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 21 12:30
DaemonFCIt's not really my computer that is struggling if Amazon's software is just poorly designed.Jul 21 12:30
DaemonFCGoogle Docs does way more than Amazon Cloud Reader does, but Google Docs runs fine.Jul 21 12:30
DaemonFCYou can always come up with software that is so poorly built that it doesn't run on a reasonably configured PC.Jul 21 12:30
DaemonFCI'm not thrilled to still be using a PC that's 5 years old, save for a nice graphics card upgrade[1], but I don't really want to buy a new computer right at this very moment. I'm in kind of a holding pattern right now, trying to get more time out of what I'm using while hoping that someone comes and fixes the PC market mess with something that you can just buy and use. Windows and Mac are not what I'd call "usable". Sorry.Jul 21 12:30
DaemonFCThe two best outcomes that could save the PC are that Steam OS and/or Chrome OS pan out. I'll tell you my line of thinking on this.Jul 21 12:30
DaemonFCSteam Machines will be real computers, not just a video game console. You can boot out of Steam OS, which is a thin "Just Enough" OS built on Linux, which will be a great thing, because you will get better performance than Windows can give you. 1. Linux performs better than Windows anyway in a side by side comparison running the native version of identical games right now. 2. A JEOS like Steam OS will run them even better because it throws Jul 21 12:30
DaemonFCout all of the stuff you don't need for gaming.Jul 21 12:31
DaemonFCValve's CEO, Gabe Newell, promised that you can reboot the machine into any normal PC OS to get your "boring" stuff done, so if this pans out, I could have a badass gaming console, that can reboot into Fedora, and that's just cool!Jul 21 12:31
DaemonFCOn the other hand, we have Chrome OS, which is Chrome running in its own "JEOS" version of Linux, and since Chrome is a powerful development platform which is only going to get more powerful, I think it's not unreasonable to think that we're going to get Chrome PCs with lots of RAM, fast processors, and decent video cards at some point.Jul 21 12:31
DaemonFCEither way, I do believe that Linux is the OS of the future. The surge of Chrome OS to the #1 desktop on Amazon and the #1 laptop on Amazon kind of tells me that Windows and Mac are quickly becoming legacy operating systems, whose only defenders are like Japanese soldiers on an island in 1945 that didn't hear about how badly the war is going.Jul 21 12:31
DaemonFC[1] And a nice graphics card can save you from a "blah" CPU these days, but a terrible graphics chipset, like we find in Macs and Walmart PCs can never be compensated for by a good CPU, which makes it all the more puzzling as to why Apple insists on fast CPUs with brain damaged Intel graphics chipsets. Apple has always been hostile to video game publishers, like going out of its way to make sure that games don't run on the Mac. Jul 21 12:31
DaemonFCerr, boot to steam OS rather *edits*Jul 21 12:32
SosuminahJul 21 12:43
Sosumiyou can load gnome on steam osJul 21 12:44
Sosumiactually it comes pre-installedJul 21 12:44
Sosumiso if not neededJul 21 12:44
DaemonFC Hummingbirder says:Jul 21 12:45
DaemonFCMy next of kin wouldn't know what to do with a Zune.Jul 21 12:45
Sosumifolks can do everything from inside steam osJul 21 12:45
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 21 12:45
DaemonFCIt's OK son, nobody knows what to do with a Zune.Jul 21 12:45
DaemonFChttps://kbhomes.github.io/2012/02/13/mtpz-implementation.htmlJul 21 12:45
DaemonFCNow that the Microsoft software to sync the damned thing is abandoned, people who own one are up the creek without a paddle. I don't know what the most current situation is in regards to trying to get them to sync using other software, but from the looks of this article, Microsoft went very far out of its way to prevent that from happening.Jul 21 12:45
DaemonFCIf you want a portable media player, get one that has Mass Storage Class support, or keep walking. That's my opinion, of course, but I think it's ridiculous that you can't drag and drop files using your operating system's file manager on Zunes and iPods, while a cheap little Sandisk Sansa has always allowed this. No bloated crapware necessary. Get off my lawn! B-) Jul 21 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kbhomes.github.io | Sajid Anwar - MTPZ: Implementation [ http://ur1.ca/hspoi ]Jul 21 12:45
Sosumialso gpus on apple hardware are just crap offers from nvidiaJul 21 12:46
SosumiI mean IntelJul 21 12:46
Sosumibut crappy gpus across the boardJul 21 12:46
Sosumiimacs are still using gt700m series gpus from last yearJul 21 12:47
DaemonFCYeah. The performance went up when they moved the chipset off of the motherboard and onto the CPU, but they're still not a replacement for even the cheapest video cards.Jul 21 12:47
DaemonFChttp://www.macworld.com/article/1049652/minigraphics.htmlJul 21 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macworld.com | Keeping Mac mini's integrated graphics in perspective | Macworld [ http://ur1.ca/hspri ]Jul 21 12:50
DaemonFC"So, on Monday, February 27, an integrated graphics chip was something that stole power from the CPU and siphoned off system memory. As of February 28, it’s suddenly capable of supporting the latest 3-D games and is an incredible value proposition? Ah, marketing!"Jul 21 12:51
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 21 13:04
DaemonFCAnd Apple's statement about running Halo on a budget PC was pretty funny, because it ran OK on a budget PC. I know because I had a budget PC and Halo. :PJul 21 13:04
DaemonFCIt wasn't a particularly advanced game engine. It ran on the original XBOX for crying out loud. The PC version was better because the XBOX version had no networking capabilities. Apple probably used it as an example of what you could do on the PowerPC Mac because it was one of the only 3d games that you could actually buy for a Mac. Microsoft kept Bungie's promise that it would work on a Mac, but Mac users got it two months later than PC Jul 21 13:04
DaemonFCusers.Jul 21 13:04
DaemonFCProbably the only reason I got away with running Halo on my crappy Compaq that I had at the time was because the development target *was* a Mac. I still remember how butthurt Mac fanboys were when Microsoft bought Bungie, which was the only video game company that I'm aware of that ever *tried* to produce a Mac exclusive. (Notice how Halo 2 only runs on a Mac if you reboot it into at least Windows Vista, or maybe Windows XP if you apply the Jul 21 13:04
DaemonFCHalo 2 XP "patch", but that's unofficial, and YMMV. And even then, good luck, because they weren't aiming for your crappy Mac with this one.)Jul 21 13:04
DaemonFCI don't know. It's been enough years since Halo 2 PC came out that Intel integrated video in a Mac might be on par with a mediocre video card from 2006 by now. Anyone? Jul 21 13:04
DaemonFCApple's "budget" Macs are really nothing to write home about. It's budget PC performance at mid-range PC prices.Jul 21 13:08
DaemonFCA $450 HP Pavilion with an AMD A10 APU will happily blow the Mac Mini right out of the water.Jul 21 13:10
DaemonFCThat's how bad things are at the low end of the Mac market.Jul 21 13:11
DaemonFCSosumi, Well, the nice thing about waiting to buy a new computer is that the longer you wait, the better system you'll get at any price level.Jul 21 13:18
DaemonFCSo, I try to drag these things out until the last minute.Jul 21 13:18
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__martin__funny timing; another malaysian jet (this time full of aids experts instead of semiconductor scientists) make headlines right when mr. snowden gets published another interview on the guardian and calls for hackers via hangouts [surveilled] @ hope-x-nycJul 21 13:23
DaemonFCThe US and EU will "condemn" Putin for a while, do nothing about it, and the whole thing will blow over.Jul 21 13:24
__martin__public distortion in practise >> http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/19/we-cannot-unbundle-office-anymore/Jul 21 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch.com | We Can No Longer Unbundle Microsoft Office [ http://ur1.ca/hsqzf ]Jul 21 13:24
__martin__our gov pushes for eid cards with reader; there is a client app for win xp/7/8 + reader IDBridge CT30 driver + signature app D.Signer/XAdES .. patheticJul 21 13:30
__martin__they missed the schedule for GNU/Linux and Mac OS X support by whole year or soJul 21 13:30
__martin__DaemonFC: are the Palestinians fighting back because there was no Jewish state prior to WW I (when the colonial winners drew the borders on a map) or is it "just" a deadly clash for freshwater sources?Jul 21 13:33
SosumiyepJul 21 13:41
Sosumibungie was a mac centric developerJul 21 13:41
Sosumiand probably the only oneJul 21 13:41
Sosumiuntil m$ bought themJul 21 13:41
Sosumiand changed the target platform for the xbox/windowsJul 21 13:42
Sosumithe mac port was later done by macsoftgames and published by gearboxJul 21 13:42
SosumiI have the mac version of halo actually, original and everythingJul 21 13:42
MinceRit seems that id became winblows-centric when they made a deal to target the xboxJul 21 13:43
Sosuminah, id has always been windows centricJul 21 13:43
Sosumitheir linux/mac ports were always handled by another companyJul 21 13:43
MinceRexcept when they developed their stuff for next and ported it to dosJul 21 13:43
MinceRand when they consistently targeted openglJul 21 13:43
Sosumiduring those times I wans’t even bornJul 21 13:44
Sosumi:)Jul 21 13:44
MinceR:)Jul 21 13:44
SosumiI’m not sure about using the mac gpus of the release of halo as bashing argumentJul 21 13:47
__martin__http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/60544/why-do-game-developers-prefer-windows/88055#88055Jul 21 13:48
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Sosumimacs during that time had gf 4 ti 4600, radeon 9800 pros and later with the introduction of the G5 Jul 21 13:48
__martin__"So Microsoft purchased a bit of middleware and fashioned it into Direct3D Version 3. It was universally reviled. And with good reason; looking at D3D v3 code is like staring into the Ark of the Covenant.Jul 21 13:49
Sosumi6800 ultrasJul 21 13:49
__martin__Old John Carmack at Id Software took one look at that trash and said, "Screw that!" and decided to write towards another API: OpenGL."Jul 21 13:49
MinceR:>Jul 21 13:49
Sosumionly the imacs had crappy gpusJul 21 13:49
Sosumithe crap gpus across the board only started in 2009Jul 21 13:50
DaemonFCI had a Radeon 9800 Pro paired with an Intel Celeron at the time.Jul 21 13:50
Sosumiwhen they released the mac pro with the hd4870Jul 21 13:51
Sosumiinstead of the gtx285Jul 21 13:51
DaemonFCI've noticed that a decent GPU can save you from a bad CPU in games, but a bad GPU means it doesn't matter what your CPU is.Jul 21 13:51
DaemonFCEven though the current higher end i7s are more than twice as fast as my Phenom II X4, when you go to load a game with an identical GPU on both systems, the i7 only brings the framerate up by 5-10% usually.Jul 21 13:52
DaemonFCI helps, but it's not where you should put your money.Jul 21 13:52
SosumiI only play quake 3 arenaJul 21 13:53
Sosumithere isn’t anything out there that really interests me anymoreJul 21 13:53
DaemonFCIn some cases, a current i5s are only a dual core CPU.Jul 21 13:53
Sosumiand I just use my computer for workJul 21 13:54
Sosumitesting with algos and so onJul 21 13:54
DaemonFCModern game engines can create extra threads to take advantage of more cores, so your performance could actually go down with a dual core i5.Jul 21 13:54
DaemonFCThere's just nothing really exciting about getting a new CPU these days.Jul 21 13:54
DaemonFCThey're twice as fast as ones that were already incredibly fast.Jul 21 13:55
Sosumiwait for the next intel tockJul 21 13:55
Sosumithat is what I’m doing now, before upgradingJul 21 13:55
Sosumifrom a i7 3970x into some 8 core versionJul 21 13:56
Sosumiwhen they come into the 999€ pricreangeJul 21 13:56
__martin__Sosumi: make sure you disable AMT (http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/active-management-technology) then.. also PRNG chip ;DJul 21 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | "Active Management Technology": The obscure remote control in some Intel hardware — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/hkerd ]Jul 21 13:58
Sosumii7 3970x is socket 2011Jul 21 13:59
__martin__1st gen core i3 in hereJul 21 14:00
Sosumithat you posted only applies to 1150sJul 21 14:00
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DaemonFCApple tries to keep people in the dark about their new products. The only way you know that a current model is about to be replaced by a newer one is when stores start running out of the older model.Jul 21 14:15
DaemonFCApple knows that when you announce a new product, that sales of the old version collapse, and they want to keep people paying full price for the old model all the way to the end.Jul 21 14:16
DaemonFCIt makes it difficult to plan an upgrade cycle when you don't even know when the new hardware will be out.Jul 21 14:16
Sosumilol, it was apple who kept the 2011 mac pro going for 3 years with no updates and no price decreaseJul 21 14:20
Sosumiand the sole reason they stopped selling it was because intel was going to stop manufacturing nehalem and westmere cpusJul 21 14:20
Sosumiand then they released the trashcan proJul 21 14:20
DaemonFCRight, so right now the Mac Mini is 165 days past the average time between releases.Jul 21 14:20
DaemonFCIt's the 2012 model, and it's still selling at full price.Jul 21 14:21
Sosumicrapple :)Jul 21 14:21
DaemonFCPeople who buy it will see that in a month or two, there will be a new model that's twice as fast for the same price.Jul 21 14:21
abeNd-orghehJul 21 14:21
abeNd-orgyes, but people keep buying it, otherwise apple wouldnt keep the price where it is atJul 21 14:21
abeNd-orgblame the same people who think they have a cousin who is a nigerian king that has millions for themJul 21 14:22
DaemonFCRight, so you buy the 2012 model, and then the new model comes out with a CPU that's very nearly twice as fast, and maybe double the RAM and the same price. Who wouldn't feel stupid for that?Jul 21 14:22
abeNd-orgmost apple consumers wouldnt know the differenceJul 21 14:22
DaemonFCI know. The people who buy Apple in the first place.Jul 21 14:22
DaemonFCEven they must visit Apple.com now and then and see Apple bragging about how fast the new model is compared with the old one.Jul 21 14:23
DaemonFCAlso, Apple cuts off support for old products as quickly as they can, so buying the current Mac Mini means that you're already two years into its "life cycle", which means that if you wait and get the next model, you should be able to expect an additional 1-2 OS upgrades vs. buying this one.Jul 21 14:24
DaemonFCOnce Apple cuts off OS X upgrades, the pool of available software goes into immediate decline because they also rip out the ability for developers to target unsupported versions of Mac OS from XCode right away.Jul 21 14:25
DaemonFCSo, it's even more uncomfortable than continuing to use Windows XP.Jul 21 14:25
DaemonFCSo, even though you still have hardware that would be capable of running an office suite or a web browser, you can't even get current versions of those.Jul 21 14:26
DaemonFCI prefer for my PC to gracefully degrade. In other words, new software that actually needs new hardware might stop working, but software that doesn't won't.Jul 21 14:26
DaemonFCBecause most new software doesn't need particularly new hardware anyway.Jul 21 14:26
abeNd-orgi will have to say my work phone, an old 4s, came out with ios5 & is getting the ios8 update, so that is pretty good for a mobile deviceJul 21 14:27
abeNd-orgnone of the sammy phones get upgrades anything like that, perhaps 1 major rev if they are luckyJul 21 14:27
DaemonFCI heard that the iPhone 4 line won't get iOS 8.Jul 21 14:28
DaemonFCBesides, you don't need a new version of Android to run most Android apps.Jul 21 14:28
DaemonFCPeople with Gingerbread can still run many apps.Jul 21 14:28
abeNd-orgyou are correct, but that was released back in june 2010, so 4yrs old is pretty long in tooth when it comes to mobile devicesJul 21 14:29
abeNd-orgactually, my wife had to junk her 2.3.x android phone because of the new google calendar app wouldnt work with it, & the old one wasnt syncing properly anymore, & she is a heavy calendar userJul 21 14:29
DaemonFCThat brings me to my other point.Jul 21 14:31
DaemonFCRespectable Android phones are getting cheaper.Jul 21 14:31
DaemonFCThe Android One thing aims for a decent $100 Android phone without any subsidies.Jul 21 14:31
abeNd-orghers was a at one time top of the line motorolaJul 21 14:32
DaemonFCSo, the iPhone 5c will still be $549 while a "good enough" Android phone will only be $100.Jul 21 14:32
abeNd-orgthat motorola had on their 4.x upgrade list for the longest, then cancelledJul 21 14:32
abeNd-orgwhich made that the last moto product we were going to ever buy (sure other things might have moto chips or such, but not buying anything with moto branding)Jul 21 14:33
Sosumiback in the days of pocket pcJul 21 14:41
Sosumithe version of pocket pc or palm os you bought the device with Jul 21 14:41
Sosumiwas the one you’d also be stuck withJul 21 14:42
Sosumisame for symbianJul 21 14:42
Sosumiat least on the iphone, the have been doing good thereJul 21 14:42
abeNd-orgdepending on the model, sometimes you would get no updates, minor updates, but i dont think you would ever see a major version updateJul 21 14:42
__martin__"Volkswagen AG (VOW), Europe’s largest carmaker, plans to mimic the fast-paced rollouts of products made by the likes of Apple Inc. (AAPL) to adapt quicker to changing customer demands for technology in its cars." - BloombergJul 21 14:42
abeNd-orgyea, i think iphones usually received 3 major os revision updatesJul 21 14:42
Sosumiwith the 4 now being dropped after it was released back in 2010Jul 21 14:43
Sosumiwhile the only android devices that get regular updates are the nexus and google play editionsJul 21 14:43
abeNd-orgeven the sammy flagship phones rarely get updatesJul 21 14:44
SosumiyeahJul 21 14:44
DaemonFCI just got my car insurance renewal bill. Bleh!Jul 21 15:07
DaemonFCI'm switching companies again because I got a better offer.Jul 21 15:07
DaemonFCI hate doing this. They want to ask you a billion questions. It's like canceling AOL.Jul 21 15:08
DaemonFCSosumi, I'm holding off on buying a new system because these upgrades haven't been really impressive lately.Jul 21 15:09
DaemonFCI remember when the speed of a CPU would double every year or two, and it was just getting better at a crazy paceJul 21 15:11
DaemonFCI don't think they've tripled in speed in the last five years.Jul 21 15:11
__martin__"Toshiba and U.S. partner SanDisk Corp filed separate civil lawsuits against SK Hynix seeking damages over the suspected theft of data related to their flagship flash memory chip technology used in smartphones and tablet computers. " - ReutersJul 21 15:14
SosumiI understandJul 21 15:17
Sosumijust upgrade when you see it required :)Jul 21 15:18
DaemonFCIt's kind of sad really. That there haven't been incredible advances in the last five years.,Jul 21 15:20
DaemonFCLeave it to Apple to take us from dragging and dropping files with a file manager to "You need to install the most horrendously bloated media player ever made, and it only works with Windows and Mac.". EWW!Jul 21 16:09
DaemonFCClearly this is a regression, and so is the price.Jul 21 16:09
DaemonFCI use a Sandisk Sansa Clip+, and to channel Milton from Office Space, "And if they take Mass Storage Class away, I'm going to burn the building to the ground.".Jul 21 16:09
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Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/21/covert-backdoors-ios/Jul 21 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Forensic Expert Questions Covert 'Backdoor' Services Included in iOS by Apple - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/hsspx ]Jul 21 16:41
SosumiI am not suggesting some grand conspiracy; there are, however, some services running in iOS that shouldn’t be there, that were intentionally added by Apple as part of the firmware, and that bypass backup encryption while copying more of your personal data than ever should come off the phone for the average consumer.”Jul 21 16:41
SosumiYES YES I’ve been hitting at this for some time alreadyJul 21 16:41
Sosumibut on the osx side of thingsJul 21 16:41
Sosumiwhen even with things like report submission is disabledJul 21 16:42
Sosumilittle snitch catches the process submitdiag calling appleJul 21 16:42
Sosumiand among that process, othersJul 21 16:42
DaemonFCMicrosoft has something similar in Windows. They gave the government a program that can immediately decrypt all of your Bitlocker drives. Jul 21 17:02
abeNd-orgif only the NSA would just let me have access to all my data, that would make the 3 tier backup so much easierJul 21 17:07
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DaemonFChttp://news.investors.com/technology-click/071414-708627-googl-outpacing-msft-aapl-in-notebooks.htmJul 21 17:25
DaemonFCA computer in every home and a Linux operating system on many of them.Jul 21 17:25
DaemonFCMy prediction for the future.Jul 21 17:25
DaemonFCChrome devices are so inexpensive that they're the number one desktop and laptop OS on Amazon. Some users report that they managed to throw out their Windoze computer entirely and move over to Chrome OS.Jul 21 17:25
DaemonFCI'm finding myself in Google Chrome on my Fedora desktop more and more. I'm not sure I'm ready to chuck the PC just yet, but when the time comes, I might.Jul 21 17:25
DaemonFCIt's hard to argue with a $150 Chromebox when it has almost all the capabilities of a Windoze computer that costs less than about $600.Jul 21 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.investors.com | Google Chrome takes big chunk of commercial notebook sales - Investors.com [ http://ur1.ca/hssyg ]Jul 21 17:25
DaemonFCWith Windows XP getting harder to press on with and the prospect of a Windoze "upgrade that involves a 'spensive new PC, that could explain the surge of Chrome.Jul 21 17:25
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DaemonFCAnd if you want to give your Chromebox a kick in the pants, you can flip it over and put in more RAM.Jul 21 17:34
abeNd-orgmost of the XP coa'ed machines I have a clients are x64 & can do 8gb ram, more than enough to handle win81 reliablyJul 21 17:54
abeNd-orgthe problem usually is with the slower than dirt WDC-green type drives in them, they really fly with an ssdJul 21 17:55
DaemonFCWestern Digital "Green". BWAHAHAHAAAA!!!Jul 21 17:56
DaemonFCWho the FUCK buys that SHIT?Jul 21 17:56
DaemonFCI'm sorry, but......Jesus Christ.Jul 21 17:56
DaemonFCYou know?Jul 21 17:56
abeNd-orgso ive reimaged most of the xp machines with 81 & redeployed their LoB applications, they just keep chugging alongJul 21 17:57
DaemonFC"It uses less power". Yeah, like a couple of watts, and it kills your data access times. KILLS THEM.Jul 21 17:57
abeNd-orgyea, im not a fan of the "green" line, i wouldnt buy them myself, but dell/hp/lenovo love using themJul 21 17:57
DaemonFCOf course they do. They can save $10 and most people that buy a Dell don't know any better.Jul 21 17:58
abeNd-orgim not talking dimension consumer grade machines, im talking precision/optiplex business classJul 21 17:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chromebook Gains, Microsoft WorriesJul 21 17:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chromebook Gains, Microsoft Worries | Tux MachinesJul 21 17:58
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MinceRpeople who buy dHells don't know any betterJul 21 17:59
MinceRif they did, they wouldn't be buying dHells.Jul 21 17:59
abeNd-orghp/lenovo business class machines are no better/worseJul 21 18:01
abeNd-orgi could care less about consumer class machines from any vendorJul 21 18:01
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MinceR_actually, thinkpads are a lot better than latitudesJul 21 18:13
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abeNd-org*shrug* as long as they arent consumer grade, im more or less fine with any of themJul 21 18:20
abeNd-orgpeople who go out & buy vostro & pavilion machines for cheap, then complain that they arent running fast enough....Jul 21 18:20
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tigerfoot:-) Jul 21 19:09
abeNd-orgor while i am in this channel should i be referring to them as stinkpad/dull/etc?Jul 21 19:13
MinceRwhateverJul 21 19:15
__martin__abeNd-org: dull got that shocked by sale figures of hardware with chrome os that they shove it off from their offeringsJul 21 19:16
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DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 21 19:51
DaemonFC"every new version of iOS is full of bugs"Jul 21 19:51
DaemonFCDoes it support Ogg Vorbis yet, or are users stuck with Apple's garbage AAC or (god help you) Nero's?Jul 21 19:51
DaemonFCApple and Nero managed to produce such low quality AAC encoders, that although AAC is theoretically as good as Vorbis, their implementations of AAC are often matched or outperformed by the lame MP3 encoder.Jul 21 19:51
DaemonFChttp://listening-tests.hydrogenaud.io/sebastian/mp3-128-1/results.htmJul 21 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-listening-tests.hydrogenaud.io | Results of the public MP3 listening test @ 128 kbps (October 2008) [ http://ur1.ca/hstpz ]Jul 21 19:51
DaemonFCIf it comes down to a choice between Apple AAC or Lame MP3, use the Lame MP3 encoder. It produces files that will work everywhere, the quality is as good or better, and MP3 will be in the public domain in 2017, while MPEG-4 patents (like the ones describing AAC) won't finish expiring until the 2030s. Apple owns MPEG-4 patents and that's why it promotes AAC and fought to get open standard media codecs out of the HTML 5 specification. Apple Jul 21 19:51
DaemonFCcan't be trusted. The have conflicts of interest with what's good for the public. Like Microsoft, Apple's goal is to suck a tax stream out of innovative companies. Spotify rejected AAC and streams in Vorbis. Good for them!Jul 21 19:51
DaemonFCIf Vorbis is a choice, then forget both and use Vorbis.Jul 21 19:51
DaemonFCI'd call missing Vorbis support a definite dealbreaker when choosing a portable media player.Jul 21 19:51
DaemonFCOn the topic of Apple's bogus iTunes "Plus" "upgrade", the only point of doubling the size of the files was to run your iThing out of space faster.Jul 21 19:51
DaemonFCOnly the kind of complete philistine that would do business with Apple, spend $300 on an MP3 player, and wear those crappy earbuds would think that they'd get any benefit from a doubling of bitrate.Jul 21 19:51
MinceRdo they have FLAC support already?Jul 21 19:53
abeNd-orgive found amazon's drm free mp3 not horrible, & pretty cheap Jul 21 19:57
DaemonFCMinceR, ALAC. It produces files that are 8-11% bigger and.....well, that's about all it does.Jul 21 20:01
MinceRpftJul 21 20:02
MinceRanother thing it does is that it won't play anywhere elseJul 21 20:02
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DaemonFCMinceR, Rockbox.Jul 21 20:05
DaemonFCApple eventually released ALAC under the Apache 2.0 license.Jul 21 20:05
DaemonFCThere's just no reason to use it.Jul 21 20:05
MinceRicJul 21 20:05
DaemonFCWhenever I find ALAC files, I use the open source codec to decompress them and then I recompress them into FLAC.Jul 21 20:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Linux Desktop: KDE's PlasmaJul 22 05:13
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DaemonFChttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc0NjAJul 22 07:06
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DaemonFCUhhhh. Uh oh.Jul 22 07:06
DaemonFC"nobody knows why it doesn't work"Jul 22 07:06
DaemonFC"Hawaii support is not a priority at the moment. We don't have any business cases right now where accelerated open source Hawaii is a priority." Jul 22 07:06
DaemonFC-AMDJul 22 07:06
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DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabeat#Gigabeat_SJul 22 07:13
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DaemonFC"On March 3, 2009, Toshiba released a firmware update which upgrades the Platform to 1.3 (from 1.1).[1] There are no release notes and the changes are unknown."Jul 22 07:13
DaemonFCGee, that sounds exactly like something I'd want to install....Jul 22 07:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Deepin 2014 review http://t.co/anbpOGJJ53Jul 22 07:29
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MinceRhttp://38.media.tumblr.com/2f406a65403bcad5fc31025160474fbd/tumblr_n8x6tllJ1I1sjccnho1_500.jpgJul 22 10:57
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__martin__"Managers, managers, managers!" http://www.bloomberg.com/image/iYZMXfXAgl00.jpgJul 22 13:51
MinceR:>Jul 22 13:55
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schestowitz> http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2014/07/18/amazon-e-book-subscription-service-kindle-unlimited/12826833/Jul 22 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | What does Kindle Unlimited mean for readers? [ http://ur1.ca/ht2j7 ]Jul 22 15:38
schestowitz> Jul 22 15:38
schestowitz> $120 / year for library serviceJul 22 15:38
schestowitz> Jul 22 15:38
schestowitz> combine that with the attack on library exceptions in the upcoming treaties:Jul 22 15:38
schestowitz> Jul 22 15:38
schestowitz> http://policyreview.info/articles/news/does-europe-hate-libraries/277Jul 22 15:38
schestowitz> http://www.ifla.org/node/5856Jul 22 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-policyreview.info | Does Europe hate libraries? | Internet Policy Review [ http://ur1.ca/ha2hp ]Jul 22 15:38
schestowitz> Jul 22 15:38
schestowitz> then combine that with the ability to monitor usage or revoke accessJul 22 15:38
schestowitz> (like has already been demonstrated)Jul 22 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ifla.org | Treaty Proposal on Copyright Limitations and Exceptions for Libraries and Archives | IFLAJul 22 15:38
schestowitzAmazon is not in the business of public service; there is potential for privatisation here.Jul 22 15:38
schestowitzhttp://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/07/16/0253256]Jul 22 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | SoylentNews | The (Very Late) Post-Incorporation Post [ http://ur1.ca/ht2kl ]Jul 22 15:43
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 22 15:46
DaemonFCI actually started referring to Apple's FoulPlay M4P files as "MPEG 4 Putzs".Jul 22 15:46
DaemonFCThanks for reminding me of that. Jul 22 15:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NVIDIA Releases K1-Powered Shield Tablet &Jul 22 15:46
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schestowitz> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140721/11362227955/carnegie-mellon-kills-black-hat-talk-about-identifying-tor-users.shtmlJul 22 15:46
schestowitz> the tor project said on the list that they will make anJul 22 15:46
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schestowitz> announcement later this week or so, but that they had nothing to do withJul 22 15:46
schestowitz> pulling the talkJul 22 15:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Thunderbird 31.0 Officially ReleasedJul 22 15:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The new Android Wear smartwatches already haveJul 22 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi B+ ARM Debian BenchmarksJul 22 15:47
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DaemonFCAZW might be a little harder to work with, but I'll probably think of something now. Jul 22 15:47
schestowitz"The company won’t use the data for ad targeting orJul 22 15:52
schestowitzpersonalization if users install the AddThis opt-outJul 22 15:52
schestowitzcookie on their computers, he said."Jul 22 15:52
schestowitzhttp://www.propublica.org/article/meet-the-online-tracking-device-that-is-virtually-impossible-to-blockJul 22 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Meet the Online Tracking Device That is Virtually Impossible to Block - ProPublica [ http://ur1.ca/hsvky ]Jul 22 15:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4444074Jul 22 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Another Argument Against The “Artist Must Get Paid” Nonsense http://torrentfreak.com/another-argument-against-the-artist-must-get-paid-nonsense-140720/ #copyright #propagandaJul 22 15:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> torrentfreak.com | Another Argument Against The "Artist Must Get Paid" Nonsense | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/hsjy8 ]Jul 22 15:53
schestowitz"Well, I mean, an artist should get paid for their hard work, especially if it's the main thing that they're doing for a living. But payment doesn't necessarily have to come from the sale of digital music files."Jul 22 15:53
MinceRit's so virtually impossible to block that noscipt has already blocked it by default :>Jul 22 16:03
MinceRand it can't even work at all on links2 or dilloJul 22 16:03
__martin__black duck open hub.. dafuq did i just read =XJul 22 16:08
MinceRsounds nastyJul 22 16:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/491617132258422785Jul 22 16:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz A tax payer subsidised monopoly isn't a business. Also, yes, they do in fact despise used book stores.Jul 22 16:17
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DaemonFChttp://betanews.com/2014/07/22/firefox-31-tightens-download-security-adds-search-box-to-new-tab-page/Jul 22 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Firefox 31 tightens download security, adds search box to new tab page [ http://ur1.ca/ht30p ]Jul 22 16:42
DaemonFCIt seems that Mozilla reverse engineered Google's method of blocking malicious downloads that is used in Chrome, and implemented it in Firefox.Jul 22 16:42
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DaemonFCOut of 11 patched security issues in Firefox 31, 9 won't work without Javascript enabled, and 1 of the 9 that only works with Javascript enabled requires Windows.Jul 22 16:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Over 170 Primary Schools In Geneva Switched ToJul 22 16:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation SysAdmin Clint SavageJul 22 17:00
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4444074Jul 22 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Another Argument Against The “Artist Must Get Paid” Nonsense http://torrentfreak.com/another-argument-against-the-artist-must-get-paid-nonsense-140720/ #copyright #propagandaJul 22 17:20
schestowitz"Roderick T Long, destroyer of all things IP related"Jul 22 17:20
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schestowitz>>> then combine that with the ability to monitor usage or revoke accessJul 22 17:24
schestowitz>>> (like has already been demonstrated)Jul 22 17:24
schestowitz>>Jul 22 17:24
schestowitz>> Amazon is not in the business of public service; there is potential forJul 22 17:24
schestowitz>> privatisation here.Jul 22 17:24
schestowitz> Jul 22 17:25
schestowitz> Privatization is only the means, I think the end goal there is moreJul 22 17:25
schestowitz> sinister.Jul 22 17:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4444297Jul 22 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The empire glorifies big weapons http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/07/21/fox-news-accidentally-exposes-recklessness-behi/200154Jul 22 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mediamatters.org | Fox News Accidentally Exposes Recklessness Behind NRA's Defense Of A "Battlefield Weapon" | Blog | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/ht3a5 ]Jul 22 17:25
schestowitz""there is an all-out war on at our southern border." If the US not were the number one drugs consumer and did not employ illegal immigrants there might not be drug and migrant smugglers."there is an all-out war on at our southern border." If the US not were the number one drugs consumer and did not employ illegal immigrants there might not be drug and migrant smugglers."Jul 22 17:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Bazeelzebub/status/491636778856890368Jul 22 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bazeelzebub: @schestowitz Thanks Dr Roy, I've been running Zorin6 on my old Amilo laptop (PAE problems on the old cpu) Zorin9 is lookin pretty cool!!Jul 22 17:35
schestowitzIt seems like another Russian contender, along with with ROSAJul 22 17:35
schestowitzhttp://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/07/22/how-should-the-united-states-respond-to-brics/Jul 22 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.foreignpolicyjournal.com | How Should the United States Respond to BRICS? | Foreign Policy Journal [ http://ur1.ca/ht3g7 ]Jul 22 17:54
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 22 18:25
DaemonFCI did notice something amusing a while back. It turns out that Apple actually deleted a lot of their old FoulPlay music from their iTunes server, so people who didn't pay for the "iTunes Plus upgrade", which replaced the FoulPlay file with a clean copy at twice the bitrate seem to be able to just delete the files from their computer and re-download them from iTunes, and most of the time, they appear to be getting the "iTunes Plus" file Jul 22 18:25
DaemonFCwithout having to "upgrade" their library.Jul 22 18:25
DaemonFCUsing iTunes with or without DRM is still pretty silly, but for purely technical reasons related to the questionable quality of the AAC format, the huge files, etc. Vorbis is a better codec, there are no patents, and it uses the logical method of encoding the data, which is variable bitrate. Jul 22 18:25
DaemonFCIf you're already knee deep in iTunes, then at least deleting and re-downloading your FoulPlay files gives you a free upgrade path to the file you should have gotten in the first place. No DRM garbage. Jul 22 18:31
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abeNd-orgglad i dont use itunes for purchasing music, amazon mp3 is good enough for my legal needsJul 22 19:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What are useful online tools for LinuxJul 22 19:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Zorin OS 9 - a step forward for WindowsJul 22 19:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 9 - a step forward for Windows migrants | Tux MachinesJul 22 19:22
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFC"I'll admit iTunes doesn't run well on Windows. Apple really needs to fix that."Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFCThey've had more than 10 years since I've used it on Windows and it still doesn't work well? Obviously, they don't intend to fix it, just like their stupid audio codec.Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFC"And as for Vorbis, well, more like nobody has sued them yet about patents."Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFCSteve Jobs made some nebulous and idle threats about a patent pool being formed to attack Vorbis with, but nothing ever came of that, and Vorbis is used in a lot of places now, including YouTube and Spotify. Android plays them. Lots of portable media players play Vorbis. So, people with deep pockets are using it. Why has nobody "gone after" them?Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFCI allege that Jobs was just saying that to try to drive people away from unencumbered codecs and onto formats where they definitely will lose a lot of money to patent fees. Apple owns a lot of the patents, so it's obvious why they don't like the competition too much. Since he was a sociopath, con artist, and liar like Bill Gates is, that's highly likely. At least Jobs won't be doing any more nasty things.Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFC"AAC is more than "good enough" unless you're an extreme audiophile."Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFCI don't like AAC and the patents don't finish expiring until the 2030s. The Lame MP3 encoder produces higher quality out of MP3 than Apple or Nero get out of AAC, and MP3 patents all expire by 2017. If you have to use MPEG, use MP3. Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFCI didn't say that MP3 or AAC was so bad that it would make my ears bleed or anything.Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFCI just didn't see the point in using anything but the best (Vorbis) when all options were available to me, but AAC and MP3 had quality and legal issues, and Vorbis didn't (other than the aforementioned nebulous and idle threats from the corpse) and Vorbis works with all my favorite stuff.Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFCI think it's amazing that I've never come across any particular sample where Ogg Vorbis had a noticeable failure case at a reasonable bitrate. The same cannot be said for other mainstream codecs.Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFCIt's probably why Spotify and Google went with Vorbis for their streaming needs. Jul 22 19:30
DaemonFCMinceR should get a kick out of that.Jul 22 19:31
MinceRwell saidJul 22 19:33
MinceR(though jobs can only no longer do nasty things if he's already completely decomposed)Jul 22 19:33
DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 22 19:51
DaemonFCAlso, codecs like Vorbis follow the general consensus in the open source community that following the standard is only desirable when the standard is good and implementing it will be of more benefit to the user than replacing it.Jul 22 19:51
DaemonFCWhen following the standard will create more problems for a user than not following the standard, you can deviate from the standard as far as compatibility concerns will let you go, or you can just create a new standard.Jul 22 19:51
DaemonFCIt quickly became obvious, in digital video and audio, that all of the proprietary options were unusable on the open web for a combination of legal and quality problems, and so codecs like VP8 and Vorbis was created as the new standards.Jul 22 19:51
DaemonFCI'd say they're the only real standards, because they're the only ones that you have an absolute right to implement and use anywhere, without the MPEG-LA patent trolls hunting you down and sucking out your blood.Jul 22 19:51
DaemonFCFattening themselves up like a tick.Jul 22 19:51
DaemonFCThe MPEG-LA patent trolls have deferred their right to collect "royalties" for a few years to try to make MPEG-4 codecs more palatable for web streaming use, but their deferral will expire, and anyone foolish enough to be using them will be on the hook owing so much money that their business might not even be profitable enough to continue. Those that continue will just have to pass the added costs along to the customers.Jul 22 19:51
DaemonFCOpen codecs like VP8 and Vorbis appear to have gone the right way, and route around the patents or wait them out. If we starve the MPEG-LA beast, then soon it will not be able to hurt anyone and parasite off of productive businesses. Jul 22 19:51
MinceRlooks like we're gonna need to starve the other heads of the hydra tooJul 22 19:54
MinceRm$, crApple, the MAFIAAJul 22 19:54
DaemonFC"Thanks to Mr. Gates, we now know that an open Internet with protocols anyone can implement is communism; it was set up by that famous communist agent, the US Department of Defense."Jul 22 19:57
DaemonFC―Richard Stallman Jul 22 19:57
DaemonFCLOLJul 22 19:57
MinceRlolJul 22 19:59
MinceRmeanwhile, gates centrally deciding what operating system you buy is capitalismJul 22 19:59
MinceRinteresting, isn't it?Jul 22 19:59
DaemonFC<MinceR> looks like we're gonna need to starve the other heads of the hydra tooJul 22 20:08
DaemonFCDon't salt the leach. Burn it off. :)Jul 22 20:09
DaemonFCleechJul 22 20:09
MinceRthat would still cauterize the wound, would it not?Jul 22 20:09
DaemonFCMost likely.Jul 22 20:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nine Reasons Linux Rules the SupercomputingJul 22 20:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Looking at the Zooniverse codeJul 22 20:20
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/features/2012/10/a-work-in-progress-the-windows-8-multimedia-experience/2/Jul 22 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Music and Video in Windows 8: a work in progress | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ht4i4 ]Jul 22 20:35
DaemonFC"Metadata editing seems to be almost non-existent. Windows 8, as with all its predecessors, seems unable to handle the ID3 version 2.4, sticking instead to the inferior 2.3. That's a little galling, given that the specification was published in the year 2000. It is possible to add metadata based on metadata found in the Xbox music store, but the few times I tried this, the store's metadata was wrong anyway. "Jul 22 20:35
abeNd-orglinux/osx/android/ios/random little mp3 players updated to id3-2.4?Jul 22 20:39
MinceRno surprise thereJul 22 20:43
MinceRusb 1.0 came out in 1996Jul 22 20:43
MinceRand the usb stack in winblows still blows chunksJul 22 20:43
tessierhttp://mobile.businessweek.com/news/2014-07-22/microsoft-revenue-misses-estimates-on-weak-demand-from-consumersJul 22 21:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.businessweek.com | Microsoft Profit Misses Estimates on Weak Demand - Businessweek [ http://ur1.ca/ht4pu ]Jul 22 21:01
tessierBurn, baby, burn!Jul 22 21:22
abeNd-orgok, so say ms goes out of business tomorrow, what of companies that actually rely on ms or ms-based products that there is no opensource/floss/etc alternative?Jul 22 21:38
MinceRthey'll do what they do when m$ EOLs a product they used, for a whileJul 22 21:40
MinceRand then they'll move on to something elseJul 22 21:41
abeNd-orgso why arent companies making linux based (server & client) software more often then? does it not get enough usage & then get dropped as a productJul 22 21:43
MinceRperhaps because they believe people like youJul 22 21:43
abeNd-orgi remember HP had webjetadmin as a linux & windows based server product, then they dropped linux because there was, according to them, no one using it so they went windows only on itJul 22 21:43
abeNd-orgnot sure what you are getting at "with me", as I said I have plenty of linux servers doing things at customers, windows runs where there is no viable linux alternativeJul 22 21:44
MinceRi suspect such products will get more use as the network effects that favor m$ fadeJul 22 21:45
abeNd-orgi gave you a list of a bunch of software & asked you for alternatives, you just spewed kiddie version names at me instead of anything usableJul 22 21:46
MinceRyou just spew mindless m$ propagandaJul 22 21:47
abeNd-orghaha, no, i asked for alternatives, you spew kiddie names at meJul 22 21:48
MinceRhaha, yesJul 22 21:49
MinceRgnJul 22 21:49
abeNd-orgeither way, you still havent presented me with any viable alternativesJul 22 21:49
abeNd-org& now you run awayJul 22 21:49
MinceRyeah, now i "run away" because random m$ drones are not worth losing sleep overJul 22 21:50
abeNd-orgif i run linux servers at my clients where i can, how is that a microsoft drone?Jul 22 21:50
abeNd-orgif i promote the use of opensource apps at work & to customers for home use, how is that a microsoft drone?Jul 22 21:51
MinceRi can see how you "promote" "opensource"Jul 22 21:51
abeNd-organd anytime i ask you a simple question, all you do is spew kiddie names instead of real answersJul 22 21:51
DaemonFChttp://torrentfreak.com/adobe-says-piracy-is-down-but-photoshop-still-rules-pirate-bay-140710/Jul 22 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com | Adobe Says Piracy is Down, But Photoshop Still Rules Pirate Bay | TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/ht5aj ]Jul 22 22:09
DaemonFCI think it's a good thing that Adobe is clamping down on pirated copies of Photoshop.Jul 22 22:09
tessierabeNd-org: MS won't go out of business for a long time. Like IBM they will slowly whither away over the course of decades. If MS were to disappear tomorrow the software would still continue to exist. So no problem. Jul 22 22:10
DaemonFCSince most Photoshop users are pirates, that means that the CS6 version is effectively cracked forever and most of them will just keep using that instead. As Wine progresses, it will eventually run CS6 perfectly.Jul 22 22:10
DaemonFCIt's already close. So the pirates can just take their CS6 and stick it into Wine, and there goes another reason to use Windows.Jul 22 22:10
tessierAnd yes, the networks effects of MS and their incompatible protocols etc. have taken a terrible toll on the industry. That will begin to resolve, open standards will evolve, and Linux and others will get more support.Jul 22 22:11
DaemonFCThat also effectively stops development on a proprietary program, for most users, so as CS6 rots and Gimp and others are still in development, the eventual outcome could be that many of them ditch CS6 and move to an open source alternative eventually.Jul 22 22:11
DaemonFCMicrosoft never really cracks down on piracy, because Linux desktop usage would go double digits overnight if 40-some% of Windows/Office users were told to cough up $500 right away to keep using their computer. Jul 22 22:13
DaemonFCI think that Adobe is about to learn a painful lesson that the pirates using their software were actually promoting the software as a de facto standard, and making it harder for other people to avoid as well.Jul 22 22:14
DaemonFCAlso, open source development happens more when there isn't a good enough proprietary program that's affordable and widely available.Jul 22 22:14
abeNd-orglike the SIP2 compliant library ILS i love, evergreen, linux backend with windows/linux clients, however there still is no linux/windows/osx client with windows/linux server side patron management system, so libraries still end up needing a windows serverJul 22 22:17
abeNd-orgall i was asking MinceR for was an alternative (to that & other ms-based server side products), not baby name callingJul 22 22:18
abeNd-org& I find it rather insulting to be called a microsoft droneJul 22 22:21
DaemonFC"Seriously, you have to wonder if Dr. Evil is running Amazon from his moon base. They've already used the Swindle DRM to remotely delete books from peoples Kindles. Next, they could ransom your books for.....one million, fajillion, farfiggity figgity fillion, shabadada, zillion....dollars."Jul 22 22:31
DaemonFCfrom a post of mine on AmazonJul 22 22:31
abeNd-orgyea, speaking of that i see shrills want to use the "all you can read" monthly subscription as a reason to get rid of all librariesJul 22 22:31
abeNd-orgas if every single person can afford $10/month, a kindle, has internet access, etc etcJul 22 22:32
abeNd-orgwe have plenty of people who come into the library to get all sorts of materials & use computers, because they cut all the cords other than cell phone, so no cable/internet at all at homeJul 22 22:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Linux Browsers http://t.co/Tzr94zBjmuJul 22 22:46
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DaemonFCMinceR, Someone told me that he'll pray that I die in a car accident.Jul 22 22:49
DaemonFCI repled....Jul 22 22:49
DaemonFCWell, you can pray all you want. Nietzsche told me that God is dead and we have killed him. ;)Jul 22 22:49
DaemonFCSo I guess that means that you can pray in one hand and shit in the other, and see which one fills up first. :) Jul 22 22:49
DaemonFChttp://www.palemoon.org/Jul 22 23:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.palemoon.org | The Pale Moon Project homepageJul 22 23:03
DaemonFCIs there really a reason to use this?Jul 22 23:03
DaemonFCI saw someone on Torrent Freak mention it.Jul 22 23:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 22 23:09
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DaemonFChttp://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/techflash/2014/07/amazon-kindle-unlimited-missing-5-major-publishers.htmlJul 22 23:45
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DaemonFChttps://launchpad.net/~mjblenner/+archive/ubuntu/ppa-halJul 22 23:54
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DaemonFCLOLJul 22 23:54
DaemonFChttp://io9.com/this-tree-is-growing-40-different-kinds-of-fruit-at-onc-1608917128Jul 23 01:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-io9.com | This Tree Is Growing 40 Different Kinds Of Fruit At Once [ http://ur1.ca/ht6d0 ]Jul 23 01:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Linux Browsers http://t.co/Tzr94zBjmuJul 23 01:33
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/business/2014/07/comcast-memo-on-viral-cancelation-call-it-was-painful-to-listen-to/Jul 23 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Comcast memo on viral cancelation call: It was “painful to listen to” | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/ht6ik ]Jul 23 01:46
DaemonFChttps://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/10491196_1006713666024753_1534484321583216839_n.jpgJul 23 02:00
DaemonFCWell, the Kindle Unlimited thing is going to be a big bust.Jul 23 02:22
DaemonFCThe five largest publishers don't want anything to do with it.Jul 23 02:22
DaemonFCPeople are calling it the Netflix of books. That might be right.Jul 23 02:22
DaemonFCNetflix only rarely gets good movies anymore. Most of it is B movie crap.Jul 23 02:22
MinceR004856 < DaemonFC> So I guess that means that you can pray in one hand and shit in the other, and see which one fills up first. :) Jul 23 05:36
MinceRlolJul 23 05:36
MinceRhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-22/venezuelas-transformation-socialist-utopia-nearly-complete-its-factories-grind-haltJul 23 06:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE's the Best, Wallen Interview, and Why LinuxJul 23 06:57
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DaemonFCMinceR, That article is funny.Jul 23 07:02
DaemonFCThe United States and socialism? Not really.Jul 23 07:02
DaemonFCThey're sneaking off with pensions, for example.Jul 23 07:03
DaemonFC"'I can't find anything. Prices are climbing daily,' said Jesus Ramirez, a taxi driver who has spent a year trying to replace the 2008 Renault he purchased new for $7,441. He sold the car for over $30,000 five years later."Jul 23 07:05
DaemonFCMinceR, Things must be getting bad if Jesus is driving a taxi in Venezuela. Jul 23 07:06
DaemonFCB-)Jul 23 07:06
DaemonFC"This is the point I just can not understand. There are many much better investments to make to protect money than buying cars that depreciate."Jul 23 07:08
DaemonFCActually, the price for new cars in the United States has gotten so ridiculously high that a used car that would have sold for $2,000 in 2005 is still selling for about $2,000 now.Jul 23 07:09
DaemonFCI guess you could make the case that it's $2,000 in 2014, not 2005, but I've never seen this happen before.Jul 23 07:10
DaemonFChttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103925Jul 23 07:16
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DaemonFCWow. That's not a very impressive PC, but for $200 it sure is.Jul 23 07:16
DaemonFCCelerons are quad cores now?Jul 23 07:16
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__martin__rysiek|pl: better than ur disco polo, eh? ;D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6q7jR63dGcJul 23 07:58
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MinceR090517 < DaemonFC> MinceR, Things must be getting bad if Jesus is driving a taxi in Venezuela. Jul 23 08:04
MinceRlolJul 23 08:05
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__martin__greetings (=Jul 23 08:07
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rysiek|pl__martin__: that's not a real achievement, now is it?Jul 23 09:58
rysiek|pl__martin__: this is also much better than попса, for instanceJul 23 09:59
rysiek|pl:)Jul 23 09:59
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__martin__rysiek|pl: just wanted to point out, that s*it happens when someone has been living under geopolitical tensions for centuries (= ofc you have good artists e.g. http://perfect.art.pl/index.php?aid=1644 which I came across by an accident through one Replicant/OpenMoko/Neo900 dev Jul 23 10:34
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__martin__rysiek|pl: namely dos (dosowisko.net)Jul 23 10:36
__martin__good rest of the day to all of youJul 23 10:36
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Sosumigot to love oczJul 23 19:24
Sosuminew firmware update my SSDsJul 23 19:24
Sosumibut first I must secure erase them firstJul 23 19:24
Sosumiand there goes 3 days downtimeJul 23 19:25
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DaemonFChttp://www.letsbuycnn.com/Jul 23 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.letsbuycnn.com | Let's Buy CNNJul 23 20:11
MinceRlolJul 23 20:13
MinceR10 billion goalJul 23 20:13
MinceRhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-23/when-twitter-word-order-goes-badly-wrongJul 23 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | When Twitter Word Order Goes Badly Wrong | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/htc2g ]Jul 23 20:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     AMD R600g/RadeonSI Performance On Linux 3.16Jul 23 20:26
TweetTuxMachines                 With Mesa 10.3-devel http://t.co/nvLiyJUHHbJul 23 20:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD R600g/RadeonSI Performance On Linux 3.16 With Mesa 10.3-devel | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SAP supports open source Cloud Foundry andJul 23 20:27
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenStack for cloud http://t.co/Y6xgc0Zrz5Jul 23 20:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SAP supports open source Cloud Foundry and OpenStack for cloud | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It’s now easier to install SailfishOS onJul 23 20:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Android devices http://t.co/KBypQFg8DrJul 23 20:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It’s now easier to install SailfishOS on Android devices | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The world's most secure OS may have a seriousJul 23 20:29
TweetTuxMachines                 problem http://t.co/RL9ewffBc8Jul 23 20:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The world's most secure OS may have a serious problem | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Attack of the clones: Oracle's latest Red HatJul 23 20:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux lookalike arrives http://t.co/zsGz1RFoDuJul 23 20:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Attack of the clones: Oracle's latest Red Hat Linux lookalike arrives | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakerBot Offers Lessons in Open SourceJul 23 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Innovation with Linux http://t.co/InDqWnTHrKJul 23 20:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 20:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MakerBot Offers Lessons in Open Source Innovation with Linux | Tux MachinesJul 23 20:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How open source launched my small businessJul 23 21:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How open source launched my small business | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox OS-based Chromecast Competitor ComingJul 23 21:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Soon http://t.co/BkvUTvZolIJul 23 21:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 21:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox OS-based Chromecast Competitor Coming Soon | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker acquires London startup OrchardJul 23 21:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Laboratories http://t.co/hdrOLEaQRmJul 23 21:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker acquires London startup Orchard Laboratories | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:05
DaemonFChttp://www.patrickmin.com/linux/windoze2000.jpgJul 23 21:26
MinceRno, you get 126 _known_ bugs per dollarJul 23 21:28
MinceRand 9001 unknown bugs per centJul 23 21:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here’s a low-barrier way to help improve FLOSSJul 23 21:44
TweetTuxMachines                 apps – AppStream metadata: Round 1Jul 23 21:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jR7d9Z1w8p (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 21:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s a low-barrier way to help improve FLOSS apps – AppStream metadata: Round 1 | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Banana Pi review – tastier than Raspberry?Jul 23 21:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/R5xuPCNa75 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 21:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Banana Pi review – tastier than Raspberry? | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Schools Are Gobbling Up Chromebooks: 1 MillionJul 23 21:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Sold in 3 Months http://t.co/2n2XdT972sJul 23 21:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 21:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Schools Are Gobbling Up Chromebooks: 1 Million Sold in 3 Months | Tux MachinesJul 23 21:45
DaemonFCI might go with a mini PC next time, actually.Jul 23 21:52
DaemonFCAll of these cords running every which way are starting to piss me off. LOLJul 23 21:52
MinceRis a raspberry pi mini enough? :>Jul 23 21:53
MinceRdoesn't have enough juice for bloated web sites though :>Jul 23 21:53
DaemonFCMinceR, The Celeron 2955U in the Chromebook seems to do fine.Jul 23 21:56
MinceR:)Jul 23 21:56
DaemonFCAll the hardware in the Chromebook is supported by Free Software too, unless you get the Samsung models.Jul 23 21:56
MinceRand only the samsung ones are ARM and passively cooled?Jul 23 21:57
MinceRgnJul 23 22:03
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DaemonFCI deliberately avoided Samsung's Chromebooks because they run on ARM hardware and it's hard to find a mainstream Linux OS that has official support for those models. The Mali graphics processor, in particular, that comes on ARM hardware, is totally undocumented and a real nasty piece of work. The Intel HD video in the Intel models is supported by a driver that Intel wrote, so you even have full 3d acceleration support.Jul 23 22:04
DaemonFCThere was a respin of Fedora 19 that ran on the Samsung Chromebook, but not one for Fedora 20, so Fedora won't boot at all on the Samsung Chromebook 2.Jul 23 22:04
DaemonFCI consider being able to dual boot a major feature. Not being able to dual boot my Chromebook into Fedora would have soured the deal.Jul 23 22:04
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*MinceR nodsJul 23 22:07
DaemonFCOh yeah. That brings me to that Google Cloud Print crap.Jul 23 22:11
DaemonFChttps://developers.google.com/cloud-print/docs/overview?hl=jaJul 23 22:11
DaemonFC"Replicating the complex printing architectures of traditional PC operating systems on these new class of devices is not desirable and often not feasible. Nobody in the printing ecosystem - users, developers, print manufacturers - wants to extend the 'driver mess.'"Jul 23 22:11
DaemonFCThat's funny, because when I reboot into Fedora, and plug in my HP Deskjet into the USB port, it prints just fine. B-) Jul 23 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.google.com | Introduction - Cloud Print — Google Developers [ http://ur1.ca/htcok ]Jul 23 22:11
DaemonFCWith Cloud Print, you have to set up some Google software onto a full blown PC with a printer plugged into it, and send all your documents off to Google to send back to your PC, or you can buy a new printer that has direct Cloud Print support. Because you have a bottomless wallet, right? Jul 23 22:12
DaemonFCMinceR, Usually not an issue though. Jul 23 22:17
DaemonFCPrinter ink is so expensive that it's easier to send some documents to my disposable email account and then log into that email account at the library and print them off there.Jul 23 22:18
MinceR:>Jul 23 22:20
DaemonFCMinceR, I just send the documents to a webmail account that I only ever use for that.Jul 23 22:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Android Camera Apps 2014Jul 23 22:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/K1y1ONhSTB (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 22:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Android Camera Apps 2014 | Tux MachinesJul 23 22:21
DaemonFCI don't feel like logging in to my real email account on a Windows computer at the library.Jul 23 22:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Icecat, the big absent http://t.co/2H9FggWYmRJul 23 22:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 22:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Icecat, the big absent | Tux MachinesJul 23 22:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE 5 Delivers New Linux Desktop EnvironmentJul 23 22:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hHlHylbS2H (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 22:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE 5 Delivers New Linux Desktop Environment | Tux MachinesJul 23 22:22
DaemonFCI don't trust Windows or the government as far as I could throw an aircraft carrier.Jul 23 22:22
DaemonFCThere's very few people in government that would tell you the truth if there was a way not to. If they commit to something, then their successor won't feel bound by it.Jul 23 22:23
DaemonFCRight now, I think that Obama is scrambling to give people a few things that they know they're going to lose the next time we get a Republican in the white house.Jul 23 22:24
DaemonFCSo, things are going a little better than they normally are.Jul 23 22:25
MinceRare they?Jul 23 22:25
MinceRseemed to me the slide downward only accelerated while he was the figureheadJul 23 22:25
DaemonFCMinceR, I think things are not as good as they used to be, but the freefall has stopped, and we're slowly rising again.Jul 23 22:41
DaemonFCThat's how it feels anyway.Jul 23 22:41
DaemonFCIt was a great place to be, 15 years ago.Jul 23 22:42
DaemonFCI wouldn't have wanted to live anywhere else in the world. Now, I have my reservations about saying that.Jul 23 22:42
MinceRi can't see any human rights being reinstatedJul 23 22:43
DaemonFCMinceR, I think most of the problem is the Republicans in Congress, followed by the damned supreme court.Jul 23 22:46
DaemonFCThey'll eventually overturn the gay marriage bans, which is good, but it's only because businesses are lining up and lobbying for that.Jul 23 22:47
DaemonFCAt the same time, they're about to get another shot at the healthcare law.Jul 23 22:48
DaemonFCSo, watch out! :PJul 23 22:48
DaemonFCWell, you don't have to because you don't live here. But anyone that does needs to. :PJul 23 22:48
MinceRwell, usian corporations buy laws here tooJul 23 22:49
MinceRand wherever i'd move toJul 23 22:49
MinceRand it showsJul 23 22:49
DaemonFCYeah, well, they didn't ask me about that.Jul 23 22:53
DaemonFCIf it makes you feel better. B-)Jul 23 22:53
DaemonFCAnd that's what really makes me mad about people that hate Americans. If they have to kill someone, then why don't they kill the people responsible for what's happening, instead of a bunch of people who really didn't get a say in it.Jul 23 22:54
DaemonFCOur system is set up so that the powers that be re-elect themselves. You get a very limited choice between two parties that agree on most of the same things.Jul 23 22:55
DaemonFCAny form of resistance would be futile. :PJul 23 22:56
DaemonFCThe same military that destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan could easily be turned on AmericansJul 23 22:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Linux 5.1 Alpha 2 Gets Firefox 31 andJul 23 23:01
TweetTuxMachines                 VLC 2.1.3 http://t.co/hAwkcm6GdBJul 23 23:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Lab Linux 5.1 Alpha 2 Gets Firefox 31 and VLC 2.1.3 | Tux MachinesJul 23 23:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Quelitu 14.04 Devs Think Their OS Can ReplaceJul 23 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows XP or Windows VistaJul 23 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/NsKVoSJWkj (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 23:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Quelitu 14.04 Devs Think Their OS Can Replace Windows XP or Windows Vista | Tux MachinesJul 23 23:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Two Years With Debian GNU/Linux - An AverageJul 23 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Guy’s Verdict http://t.co/REwKjy3eERJul 23 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 23:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Two Years With Debian GNU/Linux - An Average Guy’s Verdict | Tux MachinesJul 23 23:02
MinceRi know it isn't your faultJul 23 23:10
MinceRmaybe an increasing fraction voting for "third parties" would be a somewhat effective form of resistance (or at least showing discontent), but i can see the ways in that could fail as well.Jul 23 23:11
MinceRs/in /in which /Jul 23 23:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Moving to LibreOffice saves Toulouse 1 millionJul 23 23:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/44pKdGXLGL (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 23 23:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Moving to LibreOffice saves Toulouse 1 million | Tux MachinesJul 23 23:38
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DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 24 00:56
DaemonFCApple is in the process of locking down the Mac with the same software installation restrictions that they pioneered on the App Store.Jul 24 00:56
DaemonFCSoon enough, you'll be unable to turn off Gatekeeper (already on by default, I understand), and then they'll say it's because of "security" and you won't have any freedom on your Mac computer either.Jul 24 00:56
DaemonFCApple pioneered nasty anti-user restrictions by convincing users that they didn't need their freedom when you called the computer a phone or a tablet. They'll backport this godawful system to the Mac. It's already well underway.Jul 24 00:56
DaemonFCMicrosoft wants the same thing, but they're backing away because developers hate the app store revenue stealing model of Microsoft's Windows Store (which would also raise software prices by over 30% if they could force it onto the developers), and are not publishing their work there. Users hate Windows Modern anyway, and go to the desktop to use Win32 apps.Jul 24 00:56
DaemonFCSome people wonder why I will use literally ANYTHING but Windows or Mac, and this kind of crap is part of the reason why. I don't like manipulation, and I don't like bullies. I also hate crap software in general.Jul 24 00:56
DaemonFChttp://www.eweek.com/pc-hardware/slideshows/why-chromebook-sales-are-surging-in-schools-enterprises.html/Jul 24 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Why Chromebook Sales Are Surging in Schools, Enterprises [ http://ur1.ca/htdjf ]Jul 24 01:18
DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10516745_10154348574515462_7442716391168469488_n.jpgJul 24 02:52
DaemonFC"Pipelight is a wrapper for using Windows plugins in Linux browsers"Jul 24 03:39
DaemonFCWhat could POSSIBLY go wrong? Yeah, I'd rather keep your Windows out of my Linux than try to kludge this shit together to get Amazon Prime Video to work again.Jul 24 03:39
DaemonFCWhat I will do is go tell those ****twits at Amazon exactly what I think of Microsoft Silverlight.Jul 24 03:39
DaemonFCThis is why I don't have a Prime account. Jul 24 03:39
DaemonFCI could use Netflix in my Chromebook and pipe it out to my TV, but what's the point? Jul 24 03:39
DaemonFCLegal alternative to piracy, my ass.... Has anyone _looked_ at the shit on Netflix lately? They say something like "Your favorite show is now on Netflix!", so you look and it's like one season from four years ago.Jul 24 03:39
DaemonFCAmazon has another service now. $9.99 a month for unlimited books (through Swindle). It's already just like Netflix. The five biggest publishers, who control probably 90% of what people want to read aren't having any of it, so it's utter crap right out of the gate anyway.Jul 24 03:39
DaemonFCIf you want to fight piracy, then give the people what they want! I wish some of these old cigar-smoking fogeys who run these Old Media companies would keel over and turn things over to someone who's seen 30 since 1930.Jul 24 03:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     This is the golden age of open sourceJul 24 04:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8nfmd3LvYl (www.tuxmachines.org)Jul 24 04:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This is the golden age of open source | Tux MachinesJul 24 04:29
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DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 24 04:41
DaemonFC"It really comes down to content now for the vast majority of us. Apple had a big advantage, which is pretty much gone now. Unless you care about having 100,000 choices of flashlight apps rather than only 90,000."Jul 24 04:41
DaemonFCApple app store approval process....Jul 24 04:41
DaemonFCIs it a flashlight? Hell yes it's a flashlight! APPROVED!Jul 24 04:41
DaemonFCOf course, if it's something serious like a bugfix update for a real app, it can take weeks or months to get through their app store Nazis and into the store, so Android users will get the bugfix while Apple users are still using the bugged version and trying to pretend like nothing ever goes wrong with their stupid iPhone.Jul 24 04:41
DaemonFC"There's nothing wrong with my Precious! GOLLUM! GOLLUM!!!!"Jul 24 04:41
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 24 05:12
DaemonFCSorry for the delayed reply. I was eating a Hungry Man spicy fried chicken dinner.Jul 24 05:12
DaemonFCThe chicken was good. The apple dessert tasted like I was eating a Christmas candle. I about gagged.Jul 24 05:12
DaemonFCPart of an Amazon Forum post of mine:Jul 24 05:30
DaemonFC"There are plenty of trojans hiding in pirated Mac software. Mac users pirate software like Windows users do, because a lot of what they want is proprietary and expensive. They go so far as to ignore the fact that software like LibreOffice doesn't cost a dime and there's no activation system to crack.Jul 24 05:30
DaemonFCIf you avoid Microsoft Office and head straight for LibreOffice, you avoid the malware. Even better, you avoid Microsoft Office. Even if Microsoft Office was free of charge, it would still be a bad idea to use it, because it would still be proprietary software that spits out Microsoft Office documents. Even though other software can deal with those files most of the time, it's not nice to spew them. Unfortunately, for people who think they Jul 24 05:30
DaemonFCneed it, Microsoft Office can often cost more than the computer they are running it on."Jul 24 05:30
schestowitzhttp://nytimes.com/2014/07/23/open-source-and-the-challenge-of-making-money/Jul 24 05:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York Times [ http://ur1.ca/hteqm ]Jul 24 05:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4444764Jul 24 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #drone lover #hayden loves Israeli drone attacks http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Micheal-Hayden-Israel-Gaza-Ukraine/2014/07/22/id/584192/Jul 24 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsmax.com | Ex-NSA Chief Hayden: Israelis Have 'Legitimate' Goal in Gaza [ http://ur1.ca/htety ]Jul 24 05:57
schestowitz"Oh yeah sure Genocide is legit.'Jul 24 05:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4446229Jul 24 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gnu #wget is not "whistleblowing tool" http://www.scmagazineuk.com/insiders-can-use-whistleblowing-tools-to-steal-data-without-a-trail/article/362048/ they try to make whistleblowing seem cunningly evilJul 24 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.scmagazineuk.com | Insiders can use whistleblowing tools to steal data without a trail - SC Magazine UK [ http://ur1.ca/hteu2 ]Jul 24 05:57
schestowitz"As ESR predicted, Microsoft and the US government are trying to make free software illegal on the theory that it somehow aids terrorism and crime. This is why "hacktivists" and ordinary free software users are targeted by the NSA as terrorists."Jul 24 05:57
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4451598Jul 24 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: the attacks start at wal-mart... ![the attacks start at wal-mart...](http://33.media.tumblr.com/fba3110085677d9e41d2dee0799f068c/tumblr_n95qkhBZNH1qj88rjo1_400.gif) #zombie #zombies #walmart #aisle #amputee #tripleamputee #animatedgifJul 24 05:58
schestowitz"There are a lot of amputees around these days. It's not because of zombies, it's because of plutocrats."Jul 24 05:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4445012Jul 24 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #cbs (where #cia chiefs are now chief writers and #nsa gets puff pieces) is milking 9/11 once again http://www.cbsnews.com/news/911-commission-chiefs-america-cannot-afford-to-let-down-its-guard/Jul 24 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cbsnews.com | 9/11 Commission chiefs: "America cannot afford to let down its guard" - CBS News [ http://ur1.ca/hteua ]Jul 24 05:58
schestowitz"If the US is so worried for its security it can recall all its troops and align them in their Canada and Mexico frontiers. I think they must have enough to cover all."Jul 24 05:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4444111Jul 24 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Carnegie Mellon Kills Black Hat Talk About Identifying Tor Users -- Perhaps Because It Broke Wiretapping Laws https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140721/11362227955/carnegie-mellon-kills-black-hat-talk-about-identifying-tor-users.shtml #torJul 24 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Carnegie Mellon Kills Black Hat Talk About Identifying Tor Users -- Perhaps Because It Broke Wiretapping Laws | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/ht2li ]Jul 24 05:59
schestowitz""running a Tor server to try to spy on Tor traffic without talking to lawyers is a very bad idea" Unless you're the US government, then that's fine."Jul 24 05:59
DaemonFC2 seconds agoJul 24 06:05
DaemonFCI'm changing my recommended browser to Google Chrome. Jul 24 06:05
DaemonFCOn Linux, Mozilla Firefox is starting to feel a bit rough around the edges. Also, Google got me hooked on Chrome's awesomeness via the Chromebook. It's nice having your Chromebook in sync with your desktop Chrome.Jul 24 06:05
DaemonFCI'm starting to think that when this system dies in a few years, I might just replace it with a Chromebox. Fedora Linux has been good to me, but desktop computers are starting to feel like a relic, like Windoze is. Even though Linux is super-speedy even on not-new hardware, I still can't go from the Chromebook to the desktop without feeling like I'm driving a tank. I guess I could buy an SSD and fix a lot of this aggravation...I just don't Jul 24 06:05
DaemonFCknow if I want to dump more money into a computer that's already over five years old.Jul 24 06:05
DaemonFCschestowitz, Someone told me that Windoze has gotten better with the malware problem. I replied.Jul 24 06:07
DaemonFC"Even by their own statistics, Windows 7 and later have a huge malware problem. Not as bad as before (if you believe them), but they were starting from Windows XP, so there was obviously a lot of low hanging fruit to go after there.Jul 24 06:07
DaemonFCThey can't fix Windows. It wouldn't be Windows anymore if they did. Short of a brutal crackdown (app store only and no other software permitted), Windows is a basket case.Jul 24 06:07
DaemonFCLots of malware for Windows, and much of it doesn't even require doing more than visiting a particular web page."Jul 24 06:07
MinceRthe crApp Store wouldn't helpJul 24 06:08
MinceRthere would still be lots of arbitrary code execution vulnerabilities :>Jul 24 06:08
MinceRalso, backdoorsJul 24 06:11
DaemonFCYeah, well, I meant from the other malware.Jul 24 06:12
DaemonFCWindows itself is malware.Jul 24 06:12
DaemonFCIt's designed to facilitate government malware.Jul 24 06:12
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 24 06:13
DaemonFC"XCode is awesome to use"Jul 24 06:13
DaemonFCYeah, when you're perfectly happy to have Apple force you to stop developing software for your users.Jul 24 06:13
DaemonFChttp://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/09/xscreensaver-5-15/Jul 24 06:13
DaemonFCSaid Jamie Zawinski in late 2011, "I finally bit the bullet and "upgraded" to XCode 4, which was a huge pain in the ass. I still find it largely incomprehensible, especially when it comes to adding or copying targets, but I figured I couldn't put it off forever. The most frustrating part about this is that XCode 4 has apparently gone out of its way to make it impossible to build MacOS 10.4 and/or PPC binaries (which XCode 3.2.6 was still Jul 24 06:13
DaemonFCable to do), which means that 10.5 Intel is now required. This bums me out, because I still have a mostly-functional hand-me-down PPC MacBook! It's not even that old, and now it's no longer possible to target software at it after only two OS revs? Madness. I live in dread of the endian-specific bugs that will sneak in now, but then, maybe it doesn't matter any more.Jul 24 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: XScreenSaver 5.15 [ http://ur1.ca/htewm ]Jul 24 06:13
DaemonFCI don't have access to a 10.7 machine (I have the fear) but I'm told the savers work there."Jul 24 06:13
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MinceRif he hadn't lost his mind and stuck to GNU/Linux, he could still target that machineJul 24 06:17
MinceRsucks to be himJul 24 06:17
DaemonFCMinceR, Whatever happened to "It just works."?Jul 24 06:18
DaemonFCI have Linux binaries that I got 4-5 years ago that still run.Jul 24 06:18
MinceRit was always just hype.Jul 24 06:18
DaemonFCWhat the hell is the Mac's excuse for that?Jul 24 06:18
MinceRit never worked and it never willJul 24 06:18
MinceRbut it doesn't have toJul 24 06:19
MinceRthe cultists will just imagine that it didJul 24 06:19
MinceRand continue spewing bullshit at everybodyJul 24 06:19
MinceRit's all the same with the m$ cultistsJul 24 06:19
MinceRhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60eKauWFFPkJul 24 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Department of Dirty: http://www.departmentofdirty.co.uk - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/htf0b ]Jul 24 06:35
DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/07/preview-a-closer-look-at-os-x-yosemite-just-in-time-for-the-public-beta/Jul 24 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Preview: A closer look at OS X Yosemite, just in time for the public beta | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/htf19 ]Jul 24 06:40
DaemonFCMinceR, If you pay $99 a year, you have access to Apple operating systems that are even more broken.Jul 24 06:40
MinceRwhat a bargain :>Jul 24 06:41
MinceRgeekingsJul 24 08:20
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schestowitzhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc0ODUJul 24 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | [Phoronix] Mono Begins To Focus On Performance, Assembles A Team [ http://ur1.ca/htfqv ]Jul 24 08:50
DaemonFCThen again, you can tell where some of them have never made Linux software before, when they repackage all of /usr/lib into their directory. You see truly stupid people doing this all the time. The people who made the video game "Trine" did it. Then one of their files malfunctioned in a newer Linux release, and I had to figure out which one it was and delete that copy of the library so it got the system copy. Stupid stupid people.....Jul 24 08:59
DaemonFCBut that's proprietary software for you. Stumbling along and hiding incompetence and bugs. Sometimes, calling proprietary software developers incompetent is high praise.Jul 24 08:59
DaemonFCGoogle did Chrome up with a bunch of back asswards Windoze developers and then had to go back and fix pretty much everything later.Jul 24 09:00
MinceRnot just thatJul 24 09:01
MinceRalso hiding the crappitude of their products behind bullshitJul 24 09:01
MinceRon websites that contain nothing of substanceJul 24 09:01
schestowitznice picturesJul 24 09:02
schestowitzand not much textJul 24 09:02
MinceRi'm sick and tired of hunting down crumbs of information on proprietary crapJul 24 09:02
schestowitzso the senior and lacking confidence can follow...Jul 24 09:02
DaemonFCWell, Google isn't as bad about that as Apple is....Jul 24 09:02
MinceRand of course the brainless masses eat it all upJul 24 09:02
DaemonFCDear lord.Jul 24 09:02
MinceRusually wikipedia helps me see through the bullshit, but not alwaysJul 24 09:03
DaemonFCIf I see one more "benchmark" of a new Apple product that takes up half the page with a graphic and doesn't even tell you what the benchmark means......Jul 24 09:03
DaemonFCI'll scream.Jul 24 09:03
MinceR:>Jul 24 09:03
DaemonFCOh, I actually kind of like Chrome now, but it took them a while.Jul 24 09:04
DaemonFCI am glad that they've made a market for low cost computers that you can just buy and immediately use.Jul 24 09:04
DaemonFCAt least someone is cleaning up all this Windows mess.Jul 24 09:05
DaemonFCI'd like to see Microsoft routed even if they are largely replaced by Google.Jul 24 09:05
MinceRthat could end up very ugly tooJul 24 09:06
MinceRimagine a world where general-purpose computers are illegal unless you have a developer license with the government, and then you have to accept extra-heavy monitoringJul 24 09:06
DaemonFCI think Google has the right idea here. They didn't start with Chrome OS on anything fancy. Just start eating away at Windows on the low end with machines that can do most of what a desktop user is likely to do anyway.Jul 24 09:06
MinceRand everyone else is closely watched through the cloudJul 24 09:06
MinceRwhich is mandatory for themJul 24 09:06
DaemonFCGoogle isn't exactly stopping you from booting a real Linux distribution on those things, and they're cheap as hell. :PJul 24 09:07
DaemonFCAt one point, Microsoft was selling netbooks with Windows CE. They painted it up to look kind of like Windows XP. People got them and found out that they'd been had, and returned them.Jul 24 09:08
DaemonFCThey were available on Newegg for a while for $29, just trying to get rid of all the returns.Jul 24 09:09
DaemonFCI thought that was pretty funny.Jul 24 09:09
DaemonFCThey always find someone to push their crappy product that nobody wants, and absorb the loss.Jul 24 09:09
DaemonFCThat time, it was Sylvania.Jul 24 09:09
DaemonFChttp://www.wpcentral.com/have-39-spare-then-pick-odd-sylvania-7-netbook-windows-ceJul 24 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wpcentral.com | Have $39 to spare? Then pick up this odd Sylvania 7” netbook with Windows CE | Windows Phone Central [ http://ur1.ca/htfvb ]Jul 24 09:10
DaemonFCOh, that's neat. They even used the Windows 7 wallpaper in the ad. LOL!Jul 24 09:10
schestowitz[22:56] <DaemonFC> The same military that destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan could easily be turned on AmericansJul 24 09:10
schestowitzAlready doesJul 24 09:11
DaemonFC"Remember this is Windows CE, which was designed to run with a 32mb footprint.  The 128mb is actually a lot of RAM for Windows CE 6.0, especially when you consider than Windows XP ran fine with 128mb of RAM, and if 'hack installed' even Windows 8 runs just fine with 128mb of RAM due to the new reduce RAM modes."Jul 24 09:14
DaemonFC128 MB is a lot of RAM when there's no applications you can run anyway..... :)Jul 24 09:14
DaemonFC"Id rather kids bash this up then play on the laptop...definitely.. But what does it do?"Jul 24 09:15
DaemonFCLOLJul 24 09:15
MinceRhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55AqvgJul 24 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Expert (Short Comedy Sketch) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/hbju3 ]Jul 24 09:21
MinceR110709 < DaemonFC> Google isn't exactly stopping you from booting a real Linux distribution on those things, and they're cheap as hell. :PJul 24 09:21
MinceRsure, but we could get into that position eventuallyJul 24 09:21
DaemonFCMinceR, I'm writing an Amazon review of the Sylvania netbook with Windows CE.Jul 24 09:22
DaemonFCI'll post the link when I'm done.Jul 24 09:22
MinceRlolJul 24 09:23
MinceRthe notion of winblows working with little memoryJul 24 09:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthewstinar/status/492239878936334336Jul 24 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@matthewstinar: @schestowitz They can kiss my bottom line.Jul 24 09:30
DaemonFCI submitted it.Jul 24 09:37
DaemonFCIt says it'll be posted soon.Jul 24 09:38
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/review/R1B8F2GZP9F5AXJul 24 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies)'s review of SYNET7WID 7 Inch Wireless Mobile [ http://ur1.ca/htg34 ]Jul 24 09:42
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/SYNET7WID-7-Inch-Wireless-Mobile/dp/B003ZYUCDSJul 24 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com : SYNET7WID 7 Inch Wireless Mobile : Netbook Computers : Computers & Accessories [ http://ur1.ca/htg40 ]Jul 24 09:47
DaemonFC"Having bought one for $80 and returned it the following day, I'd say pass on this one, even for $45. Truly has difficulties getting onto the internet, locks up, and all the other issues mentioned in the reviews. You'd do better to get an unlocked (page plus cellular version) palm pixi smart phone on Amazon for $45, and it will have better apps, internet connectivity (wi-fi) and overall use. Even if you do not subscribe to a phone service Jul 24 09:47
DaemonFCwith it, it will work in the same manner as this Sylvania as it has wifi capabilities. The phone is smaller, of course, but works magnificently. Just my thoughts . . ."Jul 24 09:47
DaemonFC"i returned it and still have not received refund,after all refund charges i would have got back about $20 gave up chasing it not worth the time, wish it hadnt come up because i forgot all about it now that i remember im mad again"Jul 24 09:48
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx20DX5GEB7TUX8&cdThread=Tx3HXWY5ME3SAKAJul 24 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: That time when Microsoft had a netbook..... [ http://ur1.ca/htg72 ]Jul 24 09:58
MinceRrotflJul 24 10:03
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 24 10:04
DaemonFChttp://www.yourwarrantyisvoid.com/2011/07/25/cvs-netbook-revisited/Jul 24 10:04
DaemonFCThere's the link where the guy got Linux on it.Jul 24 10:04
DaemonFCI guess if you brick it, you can still use it as a doorstop, which is about all it was good for with Windows CE on it. If you can find one of these things at a garage sale or something, pick it up and see what you can torture it into doing. I'm sure they'll take a few bucks and you'll have something to tinker with, or give to the kids to smash up, or whatever.Jul 24 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yourwarrantyisvoid.com | CVS Netbook Revisited « Your Warranty Is Void.com [ http://ur1.ca/htg94 ]Jul 24 10:04
DaemonFCB-)Jul 24 10:05
DaemonFCMinceR, It'll be alright. It just needs some DEVELOPERS!Jul 24 10:05
MinceRlolJul 24 10:05
MinceRcan you get ballmer to record the video? :>Jul 24 10:05
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIk4qTKmKzEJul 24 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Zune Balmer - YouTubeJul 24 10:09
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/ZuKrR8x.pngJul 24 10:16
schestowitztoucheJul 24 10:19
schestowitz> "He is being sued under a criminal law that wasJul 24 10:23
schestowitz> reformed in 2006, following the conclusion of a freeJul 24 10:23
schestowitz> trade agreement between Colombia and the United States."Jul 24 10:23
schestowitz> Jul 24 10:23
schestowitz> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/colombian-student-faces-prison-charges-sharing-academic-article-onlineJul 24 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Colombian Student Faces Prison Charges for Sharing an Academic Article Online | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/htbg4 ]Jul 24 10:23
schestowitz> "He is being sued under a criminal law that wasJul 24 10:24
schestowitz> reformed in 2006, following the conclusion of a freeJul 24 10:24
schestowitz> trade agreement between Colombia and the United States."Jul 24 10:24
schestowitz> Jul 24 10:24
schestowitz> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/colombian-student-faces-prison-charges-sharing-academic-article-onlineJul 24 10:24
schestowitzhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2014/07/23/can-twitter-activism-bringbackourgirls/Jul 24 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Can Twitter activism #BringBackOurGirls? - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/htgem ]Jul 24 10:24
schestowitzTwitter is useless...Jul 24 10:24
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schestowitz> http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240225262/Microsoft-attacks-UK-government-decision-to-adopt-ODF-for-document-formatsJul 24 10:28
schestowitz> Jul 24 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Microsoft attacks UK government decision to adopt ODF for document formats [ http://ur1.ca/htgfm ]Jul 24 10:28
schestowitz> https://www.gov.uk/government/news/open-document-formats-selected-to-meet-user-needs.Jul 24 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gov.uk | Open document formats selected to meet user needs - Press releases - GOV.UK [ http://ur1.ca/ht43r ]Jul 24 10:28
schestowitz> Jul 24 10:28
schestowitz> Jul 24 10:28
schestowitz> I guess you saw those already and have written.  Google is big enoughJul 24 10:28
schestowitz> that it sets the trends.  Claiming to follow them is just a dodge.  ItJul 24 10:28
schestowitz> would be useful to get to the bottom of that and find out who is makingJul 24 10:28
schestowitz> the decisions inside Google in regard to ODF.Jul 24 10:28
schestowitzI covered all the above (three). Yes, Google sickens me when it comes to document formats, but the truth is, many people don't use formats at all in docs. They just access files and keep them on "the cloud", oblivious to data formats, so "Google" is the format.Jul 24 10:28
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DaemonFChttp://www.gog.com/news/gogcom_now_supports_linuxJul 24 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gog.com | News - GOG.com Now Supports Linux! - GOG.com [ http://ur1.ca/htj4u ]Jul 24 16:41
DaemonFChttp://www.gog.com/promo/linux_launch_promo_240714Jul 24 16:43
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DaemonFC"You know, that with all the apps and computers that Apple breaks, you'd wonder how the people who go insane and buy a Mac actually get anything done at all. Software with no active development just dies every few years, and software that is developed has an expensive new version. When Apple finally breaks your entire computer, the only way to get it running modern software again is to upgrade you Mac to Linux.Jul 24 16:52
DaemonFCApple users should be glad that they have access to open source software. Of course, even then, developers can't support your Mac that got dropped and broken by Apple because of bugs and problems that exist in the Mac hardware because Apple rushed a broken product to market (like the first x86 models), or because Apple just wants to sell you new stuff every few years. As soon as you can't run the latest Mac OS, the death watch begins, at Jul 24 16:52
DaemonFCleast as far as OS X software goes.Jul 24 16:52
DaemonFCI understand that with Mavericks and Yosemite, Apple dropped support entirely for a lot of Macs that aren't really even that old. Luckily, Linux will support my non-Mac computer for as long as I'll use it. Part of the reason I didn't buy a Mac was because I knew that this **** would happen and Apple would just drop it when Linux would keep my computer running for all practical purposes for at least twice as long.Jul 24 16:52
DaemonFCI suppose there might be some kind of hack to shove Mac OS 10.8 and 10.9 on your "old" 2008 computer anyway, like there was when Apple declared that OS X 10.4 wouldn't run on any Mac without Firewire, but why should anyone have to resort to this on hardware that has no honest reason for being deprecated?Jul 24 16:52
DaemonFCThere's no legitimate reason to drop a 2008 computer. Things shouldn't have changed so much that it's some kind of a horrible maintenance burden, unless you ****ed everything up real good to get it released faster, like Apple does."Jul 24 16:52
DaemonFC"With Apple, the only way forward is to drop the entire computer and most of your software in the trash again every few years and start over."Jul 24 16:56
abeNd-orgnow if you could ramp up the linux marketing machine to match apple's....Jul 24 17:04
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DaemonFChttp://it.slashdot.org/story/14/07/24/0230212/internet-explorer-vulnerabilities-increase-100Jul 24 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beta.slashdot.org | Internet Explorer Vulnerabilities Increase 100% - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/htjfq ]Jul 24 17:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GOG.com Now Supports Linux! | Tux MachinesJul 24 17:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Pkg 1.3.0 Released To Improve PackageJul 24 17:36
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DaemonFChttp://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=17158Jul 24 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.net-security.org | Internet Explorer vulnerabilities increase 100% [ http://ur1.ca/htjj3 ]Jul 24 17:40
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DaemonFCMicrosoft hired the lead guy that wrote most of AppArmor. It's a shame they apparently aren't doing anything useful with him.Jul 24 17:46
Sosumiosx yololelolo only runs on efi 64 machines officiallyJul 24 17:46
Sosumiaka everything from 2008 onwards runs itJul 24 17:47
Sosumias for the macs with efi 32, those were the original Intel core based machines and the 2 first mac prosJul 24 17:48
DaemonFCIn the PC world, dropping x86-32 support means PCs older than 2004, for the most part.Jul 24 17:48
DaemonFCWith Apple, they shipped 32-bit EFI on some systems clear up to 2008, so they can't boot into a 64-bit OS properlyJul 24 17:48
DaemonFCApple doesn't care because they can just drop those Macs and tell people to buy new Macs.Jul 24 17:48
Sosumiwell and those macs are just underpowered now to run any current version of osx anywaysJul 24 17:49
SosumiWELL, they were already crap low end hardware to begin withJul 24 17:49
Sosumibut I do agree that apple could have launched a firmware update to bring those machines capable of booting into 64 machinesJul 24 17:50
Sosumiwhich basically were just the two first mac prosJul 24 17:51
Sosumi2007 macbook pros already had the 64 bit EFIJul 24 17:51
DaemonFCThat's why they still boot, but you have to have a 2009 Mac Mini.Jul 24 17:53
DaemonFC:PJul 24 17:53
DaemonFCFucking ridiculous....Jul 24 17:53
Sosumimac minis are trash, I have no idea why ppl buy thoseJul 24 17:58
Sosumithe high end imacs are still kind of understandable if they just want a “kewl” looking computer on the displayJul 24 17:59
Sosumibut mehJul 24 17:59
Sosumithe hp Z1 wipes the floor with itJul 24 18:00
Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2014/07/24/jimmy-kimmel-iwatch-joke/Jul 24 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Apple's iWatch Already a Hit, Even When It's a $20 Casio Watch - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/htjpc ]Jul 24 18:05
Sosumifrom one of the pedestrians “if it is apple, it is good, right?”Jul 24 18:05
Sosumieven if it is in fact and cheapo casio watchJul 24 18:05
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Sosumiwell, folks, with that kind of installed mentalityJul 24 18:08
Sosumiprobably the sole reason to buy a mac is to make programs for the hypephone and the future hypeWatchJul 24 18:09
MinceRthey didn't do anything useful with drobbins either, did they?Jul 24 18:54
Sosumidrobbins?Jul 24 18:55
MinceRthe gentoo guyJul 24 18:55
MinceR194749 < DaemonFC> With Apple, they shipped 32-bit EFI on some systems clear up to 2008, so they can't boot into a 64-bit OS properlyJul 24 18:55
MinceRBIOS wins againJul 24 18:55
MinceR195734 < Sosumi> mac minis are trash, I have no idea why ppl buy thoseJul 24 18:56
MinceRs/ mini//Jul 24 18:56
MinceRFTFYJul 24 18:56
MinceR(also, they buy them because they're cheap and they have the logo on)Jul 24 18:56
MinceRas for the hypeWatch, it will probably have less functionality than the casio ones :>Jul 24 18:57
MinceRconsider yourself lucky if they'll be able to tell the time reliablyJul 24 18:57
DaemonFCMinceR, I don't know about the cheap part. I saw a PC the other day for $200 that even threw in a keyboard and a mouse. It wasn't an i5 or i7, but you don't exactly need one when you can't install a video card alongside it to balance the system out on the Mac anyway.Jul 24 18:58
MinceRi mean relativelyJul 24 18:58
DaemonFCWith the Intel integrated video you're stuck with on the Mac, your i7 is going to be a slow-ass bastard anyway.Jul 24 18:59
DaemonFCEven at $800.Jul 24 18:59
MinceRa slow ass-bastard!Jul 24 18:59
DaemonFCIt could be worse. Microsoft could make a Windows watch that can't deal with leap year and crashes, like the Zune did.Jul 24 19:01
MinceRcrApple can do that tooJul 24 19:01
MinceRthey have the technology!Jul 24 19:01
DaemonFCThose damned ass-bastards!Jul 24 19:08
DaemonFCcan't even make a real computer....Jul 24 19:08
DaemonFCI turned all this into an Amazon post, MinceR Jul 24 19:10
MinceR:>Jul 24 19:11
DaemonFCI wonder if they'll flip their shit again and start downvoting me. I give them about a minute.Jul 24 19:11
DaemonFCI bought a *snort*....I bought a *chortles*....I bought a BAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!! Mac today. Shit. I'm a horrible liar. ;)Jul 24 19:13
DaemonFCSo you all can add that to the list of things you'll *_never_* hear me say.Jul 24 19:20
DaemonFCIf you do, then kill me because the Pod people have cloned me, and I'm an impostor.Jul 24 19:20
MinceR:>Jul 24 19:21
DaemonFCAs much contempt as I have for Windoze, at least it works sometimes. The Mac really doesn't. If I can't run my existing assortment of software for more than a few years before Apple breaks everything again, then what the hell is the point of having an operating system?Jul 24 19:23
DaemonFCI ran into someone the other day that was still using a Pentium 3 computer that he bought in 1999. You'll never see a Mac in service for 15 years.Jul 24 19:24
DaemonFCYou'll never see Mac software in service for 15 years, for that matter. You buy a new Mac or upgrade the OS, and most of it all breaks again.Jul 24 19:25
DaemonFCJust out of curiosity, I asked him why he was still using a PC from 1999, and he told me that he was unemployed and couldn't afford an investment in newer hardware right at the moment, and his 1999 PC was running fine with a minimal Linux system anyway, so it wasn't an immediate problem.Jul 24 19:27
DaemonFCMany Mac owners have to replace their system every three years anyway, so they've trashed about 5 computers, going on 6, and all the software that goes with that. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting it to all work better this time.Jul 24 19:29
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abeNd-orgDaemonFC: those mac owners are rich enough that they could care less, they would rather have the social "prestige" of having the newest/latest/greatestJul 24 20:44
DaemonFCThen what on Earth could they possibly be doing with a Mac?Jul 24 20:46
abeNd-org"they" think the latest macbook will give them a higher social standing, same thing with the latest iphoneJul 24 20:46
abeNd-organd if it costs more, it must be betterJul 24 20:47
abeNd-orga "poor" person (unless they are putting themselves into debt to do it) wont be buying a new macbook every yrJul 24 20:49
MinceRsome people take out a loan so they can buy a hypePhoneJul 24 20:50
abeNd-orgMinceR: yea, not the smartest thing to do for sureJul 24 20:51
abeNd-orgi have an old 4s, bought for me by my workplace, & if i want an upgrade I'll have to pay for it....I'll passJul 24 20:51
DaemonFCabeNd-org, Yeah. I remember 10 years ago, there was this college guy that I was fooling around with for a while who had a PowerMac G4. His parents bought it for him and he was all like "My Mac is so awesome.". So he was over at my house one day and used my Windows XP machine with a Celeron and said "This is really fast! You must have paid a fortune for this!".Jul 24 20:54
DaemonFCSo, that kind of tells you how clueless people are. They get off their Mac and use a Windows system with a Celeron processor and think it's super fast.Jul 24 20:54
abeNd-orgouch!Jul 24 20:54
DaemonFCBy the time Apple was done with the G4, they had been using it for so long that it was just totally embarrassing.Jul 24 20:55
DaemonFCCelerons were beating the crap out of them.Jul 24 20:55
abeNd-orgI haven't used too many osx machinesJul 24 20:55
MinceR:>Jul 24 20:55
abeNd-orga customer's macbook here & there, but thats about it, apple's marketing hasnt convinced me to buy one for myselfJul 24 20:58
DaemonFCIf Windows keeps going where it's going, I may have to buy a Mac to boot Linux at some point.Jul 24 21:01
DaemonFCI doubt Apple really cares much about booting Linux on a Mac because nobody really does it.Jul 24 21:01
abeNd-orgthey will treat it like windows, poor power management, bad drivers, etcJul 24 21:02
DaemonFCI understand you can remove OS X completely.Jul 24 21:03
DaemonFCI see people running Linux on a Mac sometimes. It seems to work.Jul 24 21:04
abeNd-orgright, but apple wont release source for any of the hardware on it, so linux will "work" on it, but not optimally Jul 24 21:04
MinceRif mac os keeps going where it's going, buying a mac may not necessarily help youJul 24 21:05
abeNd-orgim betting apple would rather you just buy an iphone & ipadJul 24 21:06
abeNd-org& nothing elseJul 24 21:06
abeNd-orgwell, perhaps an iwatchJul 24 21:06
MinceRare their profit margins higher on all those?Jul 24 21:06
abeNd-orgi dont have the numbers in front of me on those, but I am guessing apple wouldnt be bothering with them if they werent making a mint per device, they dont sell for a loss like sony/microsoft did the consolesJul 24 21:07
DaemonFCAside from the firmware, I think the Macs are really just PCs aren't they?Jul 24 21:08
DaemonFChttp://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/00000/1000/400/1486/1486.strip.gifJul 24 21:08
abeNd-orgyea, x64 intelJul 24 21:08
abeNd-orgbut even windows running on a macbook suffers from lack of optimized driversJul 24 21:08
MinceRthey're low quality pcs with some attempts at incompatibilityJul 24 21:09
DaemonFCApple wrote the drivers for Windows!Jul 24 21:10
DaemonFCI doubt Linux has that problem.Jul 24 21:10
abeNd-orgid rather have a dell precision, you can stack a lot of nice stuff into those, 2 HD bays + optical, pcie ssd if you wanted, etcJul 24 21:10
MinceR:>Jul 24 21:10
MinceRyeah, i guess even dell is better than appleJul 24 21:10
DaemonFCMinceR, It depends on which Dell you buy. I tried to put some more RAM into a Dell that my grandmother paid WAY too much for, and when I pushed down on it, the retention clips broke off the socket and pinged around in the case.Jul 24 21:12
MinceRlolJul 24 21:12
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: thats the problem, apple doesnt do optimized drivers, so windows suffers. no source or binaries for the hardware in linux so im sure it suffers the sameJul 24 21:18
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: you are probably talking a vostro or inspiron, neither of which should exist, the latitude/precision arent bad for laptops, & i cant say anything to alienware as ive not used themJul 24 21:19
MinceRlatitudes aren't that great eitherJul 24 21:19
MinceRbut at least they aren't as bad as inspironsJul 24 21:19
DaemonFCYeah, it was an old Inspicrap.Jul 24 21:20
abeNd-orgDaemonFC: yep, those are 100% junkJul 24 21:20
abeNd-orgsame as the dell poweredge "SC" line of servers, & for this channel I will call those Severely CrippledJul 24 21:20
MinceRalso, their "warranty" isn't worth the paper it's printed onJul 24 21:20
MinceRwow, you got off the high horse? :>Jul 24 21:21
abeNd-orgMinceR: just for you this onceJul 24 21:21
*abeNd-org hugs MinceRJul 24 21:21
MinceRawkward...Jul 24 21:21
abeNd-orgyea, hard to hug textJul 24 21:21
DaemonFCThe shittiest server is the Lenovo ThinkServer.Jul 24 21:21
abeNd-orgthe business class dells I have had great luck with warranties, if you run the dell diags & it says something is wrong they replace it no questions asked (as they should)Jul 24 21:23
abeNd-orgwarranty for vostro type units? wouldnt know, but I am betting you are correctJul 24 21:24
MinceRi tried my luck with an inspironJul 24 21:24
abeNd-orgyou gambled & lost!Jul 24 21:24
MinceRbut i don't see why the model should affect so much of whether they care to deliver on their promises or notJul 24 21:24
DaemonFCThere seems to be a lot of refurbished Dell and HP deals on Woot.comJul 24 21:25
abeNd-orgthat is the world of consumer vs business/industrial productsJul 24 21:25
DaemonFCProbably a reason for that....Jul 24 21:25
abeNd-orgthe dell consumer products are made with whatever is cheapest that dayJul 24 21:25
DaemonFCThe Amazon reviews are pretty much all "I had it for three days and it wouldn't power on anymore.".Jul 24 21:25
DaemonFCThat sort of stuff.Jul 24 21:25
abeNd-orgthe optiplexes are a standard set of specs made for 12-16 months for enterprise lifecycleJul 24 21:26
abeNd-orgmakes imaging, purchasing, etc easierJul 24 21:26
DaemonFCGadgetDon says:Jul 24 21:28
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DaemonFCBobby, bobby, bobby, you're mixed your lines up with snowflake.Jul 24 21:28
DaemonFCYours is: Apple sucks! Windows sucks! It's Snowflake who is obsessed with "apple sucks"Jul 24 21:28
DaemonFCAnd really - who cares what you are saying with your Linux buddies on IRC? It's not like you were talking to anyone who had anything but a mirror of your positions.Jul 24 21:28
abeNd-orgeven if you were deploying linux, it would be easier to have a standard equipment set than whatever randomly rolled off the line that dayJul 24 21:28
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 24 21:28
DaemonFCWhat is the Done Thing for chat on a Mac these days? I understand that AOL Instant Messenger doesn't work with iChat anymore.Jul 24 21:28
MinceRthat doesn't mean their support has to be made with whatever attitude is cheapestJul 24 21:28
MinceRdoesn't matter thoughJul 24 21:28
MinceRdHell had their chance, they said 'fuck you' to their customer, i'm not buying their crap againJul 24 21:29
abeNd-orgMinceR: for consumer grade I cant really speak for their support, I only care about business classJul 24 21:29
MinceRmaybe they're used to the typical hungarian consumer attitudeJul 24 21:29
MinceR"sure, they fucked me, but at least it seemed cheap! :goes back for more hurting: "Jul 24 21:29
MinceRno wonder the typical business treats their customers like shitJul 24 21:30
abeNd-org*shrug* perhaps their consumer support blows, but their business class support is greatJul 24 21:30
MinceRwell, i'm not going to experience their "business class support"Jul 24 21:30
abeNd-orgI'm not saying they should treat a vostro customer like shit, as they would develop the same attitude as you towards the entire company, to which I don't blame youJul 24 21:32
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DaemonFCThis is odd....Jul 25 00:33
DaemonFCGNOME Shell frequently goes over 500 MB of RAM with the Nvidia proprietary driver loaded.Jul 25 00:33
DaemonFCWith the AMD open source driver loaded, it stays around 200.Jul 25 00:34
DaemonFCI guess it wouldn't be the first time our friend the Nvidia driver had a problem..... :)Jul 25 00:34
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DaemonFC J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Jul 25 01:24
DaemonFCWell, when you get to be like HP and Dell are, you start cutting corners that cause problems like exploding power supplies, capacitors that pop, etc.Jul 25 01:24
DaemonFCIt doesn't surprise me at all that their crappy crappy junk ends up crapflooding the Woot Offs. Jul 25 01:24
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DaemonFC I see that Microsoft has deployed another "Get The FUD" campaign against Chromebooks, like they did when they lost their lunch to Linux in the server market. This time they're even buying Google ads.Jul 25 04:06
DaemonFCI can't blame them. Nobody uses Bing. It's even thrown in your face in Vista 8.1, but it must be the first thing people turn off, because even that isn't helping them. Jul 25 04:06
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DaemonFChttp://investorplace.com/2014/07/microsoft-msft-google-chromebook/Jul 25 04:08
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DaemonFCMicrosoft has gone from something that everyone feared to a laughingstock in the last few years. OEMs used to be too afraid of making them mad. It was like pissing off Saddam Hussein. Now they're openly defying them. Jul 25 04:10
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DaemonFCabout a minute ago · EditedJul 25 05:01
DaemonFCA good article. The author is right. It's going to take more than a cheap laptop that can barely run Windows at all to save Microsoft from the Chromebooks.Jul 25 05:01
DaemonFCOn top of the miserable low-end Windows laptop experience, you still need to fork over hundreds of dollars if you want to use MS Office, which is a real bloated bastard and might not even run on a system like this.Jul 25 05:01
DaemonFCThe computer will take ages to boot, thanks to a spinning platter hard drive.Jul 25 05:01
DaemonFCYou still need to run Windows antivirus software on top of all this. Have fun with that.Jul 25 05:01
DaemonFCNo touchscreen.Jul 25 05:01
DaemonFCProbably more stuff that I can't think of.Jul 25 05:01
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schestowitz> https://www.google.com/search?q=hispalinux+eu+uefiJul 25 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | hispalinux eu uefi - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/httdc ]Jul 25 15:49
schestowitz> Jul 25 15:49
schestowitz> What ever happened to that?  I cannot see any followup articles inJul 25 15:49
schestowitz> Google's database.Jul 25 15:50
schestowitzNot much heard of it...Jul 25 15:50
schestowitzSome companies have not helped. They weakened the case.Jul 25 15:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4460823Jul 25 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "NYT is still wedded to the fallacy of having to sell software." -anon http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/07/23/open-source-and-the-challenge-of-making-money/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0 #nytimesJul 25 15:54
schestowitz"I won't log in"\Jul 25 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'http:' ( status 0 @ http:////www-nc.nytimes.com/2014/07/23/open-source-and-the-challenge-of-making-money/?=_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=6& )Jul 25 15:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4461252Jul 25 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: U.S. Government Doesn’t Need Evidence to Call You a Terrorist http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/us_government_doesnt_need_evidence_to_call_you_a_terrorist_20140724 or to #torture youJul 25 15:55
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schestowitz"learning from germans ...... rule of law?!, already long no longer"Jul 25 15:55
schestowitzOne's religion makes one a suspected terrorist or dissidentJul 25 15:55
schestowitzhttp://www.bpi.co.uk/home/uk-creative-industries-and-isps-partner-in-major-new-initiative-to-promote-legal-online-entertainment.aspxJul 25 15:57
schestowitz"Jul 25 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bpi.co.uk | Home [ http://ur1.ca/httfa ]Jul 25 15:57
schestowitzThe second component is a subscriber alerts programme that will be co-managed and co-funded by ISPs and content creators and due to begin at a later date. Participating ISPs will alert and advise subscribers when their accounts are believed to have been used to infringe copyright. Account holders will receive an alert from their ISP, advising them unlawful filesharing may have taken place on their connection and offering advice on Jul 25 15:57
schestowitzwhere to find legitimate sources of entertainment content.Jul 25 15:57
schestowitzBPI - The British Recorded Music IndustryJul 25 15:57
schestowitzAnd the third component will be prosecution..Jul 25 15:57
schestowitzSpin, spin..Jul 25 15:57
schestowitz"Jul 25 15:57
schestowitz"Guess what the BPI page has a title? "home""Jul 25 15:57
schestowitzBPI is not aBritish. It's an American lobby group pretending to be British or speak for the British. It's a bit like "Microsoft UK".Jul 25 15:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/4460502Jul 25 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Dive in, penguins: Upstart builds Linux virtual SAN http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/24/storpool_building_linux_vsanalike/Jul 25 16:03
schestowitz"It comes with a free demo too! :("\Jul 25 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | Dive in, penguins: Upstart builds Linux virtual SAN • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/httgx ]Jul 25 16:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nginx Plus r4 Improves Web Server SecurityJul 25 16:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nginx Plus r4 Improves Web Server Security | Tux MachinesJul 25 16:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Interview with Nathan Willis, GUADEC KeynoteJul 25 16:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Speaker http://t.co/L2F4s8O73CJul 25 16:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Interview with Nathan Willis, GUADEC Keynote Speaker | Tux MachinesJul 25 16:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - SecondJul 25 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Quarter 2014 http://t.co/TL8SNgU8a4Jul 25 17:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2014 | Tux MachinesJul 25 17:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation SysAdmin Aric Gardner Avoids aJul 25 17:01
TweetTuxMachines                 GUI at All Costs http://t.co/oxhf48QcxQJul 25 17:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation SysAdmin Aric Gardner Avoids a GUI at All Costs | Tux MachinesJul 25 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/PsdX72LPAqJul 25 17:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesJul 25 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/M6WSvsK1eiJul 25 17:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJul 25 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/8N0JN3sAEjJul 25 17:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesJul 25 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How open sourcing Android made it a mobileJul 25 17:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How open sourcing Android made it a mobile market leader | Tux MachinesJul 25 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SysAdmin Day 2014: Best Linux FoundationJul 25 17:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SysAdmin Day 2014: Best Linux Foundation SysAdmin Quotes | Tux MachinesJul 25 17:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Nouveau vs. Radeon vs. Intel Tests On LinuxJul 25 18:12
TweetTuxMachines                 3.16, Mesa 10.3-devel http://t.co/zgdJDRBhPQJul 25 18:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nouveau vs. Radeon vs. Intel Tests On Linux 3.16, Mesa 10.3-devel | Tux MachinesJul 25 18:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Control Center 3.13.4 Gets More HiDPIJul 25 18:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Improvements http://t.co/Owz7pMzIsgJul 25 18:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Control Center 3.13.4 Gets More HiDPI Improvements | Tux MachinesJul 25 18:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Acer sees booming sales of Chromebooks, saysJul 25 18:12
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