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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorpe_Park | Nov 02 04:06 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Thorpe Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/iny5p ] | Nov 02 04:06 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Thorpe Park Resort is a theme park in between the towns of Chertsey and Staines, Surrey, England, UK. After demolition of the Thorpe Park Estate in the 1930s, the site became a gravel pit. Thorpe Park was built in 1979 on the gravel pit which was partially flooded, creating a water-based theme for the park. The park's first large roller coaster, Colossus, was added in 2002. Merlin Entertainments own and operate the park.' | Nov 02 04:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Thorpe Park is in between the towns of Chertsey and Staines, Surrey, England, UK. After demolition of the Thorpe Park Estate in the 1930s, the site became a gravel pit. Originally the gravel pit was owned by Ready Mixed Concrete Limited; in the late 1970s they decided to flood part of the site and create an educational theme park. The park opened as a small attraction, building slowly up to RMCs first large installation of "X:\No | Nov 02 04:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Way Out" in 1996. In 1998, The Tussauds Group bought the park (they also owned the nearby Chessington World of Adventures). From the outset the park started opening key attractions such as Tidal Wave in 2000, Colossus in 2002, Nemesis Inferno in 2003 and Stealth in 2006." | Nov 02 04:07 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5086504 | Nov 03 04:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GOL Survey (almost 1000 people polled): "Do you currently use Linux as your primary PC gaming platform?" 88% say yes http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/gol-survey-results-october.4532/ | Nov 03 04:56 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "all those unix nazis... :)" | Nov 03 04:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gamingonlinux.com | GOL Survey Results: October | GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/iocq1 ] | Nov 03 04:56 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5086428 "I played it for a while and meh." | Nov 03 04:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Double Action, A New Free FPS For Linux Using The Source Engine & It's Amusing http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/double-action-a-new-free-fps-for-linux-using-the-source-engine-its-amusing.4524/ #gnu #linux #games #fps | Nov 03 04:57 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Double Action, A New Free FPS For Linux Using The Source Engine & It's Amusing | GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/iocqa ] | Nov 03 04:57 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5076565 | Nov 03 04:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Facebook, hidden services, and https certs https://blog.torproject.org/blog/facebook-hidden-services-and-https-certs #facebook #pr move? | Nov 03 04:57 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They still can use dragnet to take a picture of your URL. And still know it's facebook. I don't even use facebook really anymore." | Nov 03 04:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> blog.torproject.org | Facebook, hidden services, and https certs | The Tor Blog [ http://ur1.ca/inq4z ] | Nov 03 04:57 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Zuck said people who trust him are stupid." | Nov 03 04:57 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I'm actually a little bewildered by this. Facebook insists on users using real identities. So this is not about anonymity. | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | As for the ISPs, I honestly don't think they could care less. | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | As for the surveilling agencies, they have your identity from what you post. And they have enough tor servers that they can track you through that anyway. | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | So if this isn't just a public relations move, then what is it? | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Pssst, they have this thing called aspects.' | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "ISPs care very much. Cox filtered both my inbound and outbound email for keywords and censored it maliciously at least twice. They had data "sharing" agreements with the database owners and were very much a part of PRISM. I imagine they were paid for these unethical services just like ATT and Microsoft were. Long ago, I moved my email to Google because it was more reliable and because I did not want to be at the mercy of a | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Microsoft partner any more. It's sad that Google too is a PRISM partner, but I still think I"m better off with them than others." | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Nov 03 04:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | @willhill@joindiaspora.com , were you running your own MTA when that happened? | Nov 03 04:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And are ISPs cracking the content of encrypted communications? | Nov 03 04:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I get that your experience could be very different from mine. My experience is in running both hosted servers and servers at home. My web server forces all connections (except one, for a particular operational reason) to https and my MTA accepts encrypted connections. | Nov 03 04:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | As to passing unencrypted traffic to email and web services hosted by certain lowlife ISPs, I can entirely believe that what you described happened. | Nov 03 04:59 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > Remember his bogus story about teacher 'Karen' of the AISD | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > confiscating a Linux CD some pupil brought in. Thing is, the AISD have | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > no recollection of any such incident. Starks is nothing but a parasite | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > that lives off the edge of the charity sector. When previously asked | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > to produce the names of some recipients of these 'free' computers, he | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > couldn't provide any as the pupils moved around alot. Who are these | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > 1,700 computers placed with? What are their names? Who are these 166 | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > volunteers? What are their names? | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://fossforce.com/2014/11/video-ken-starks-ruth-suehles-keynotes-at-olf/ | Nov 04 05:04 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fossforce.com | Video: Ken Starks' & Ruth Suehle's Keynotes at OLF | FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/ioomm ] | Nov 04 05:05 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Nov 04 05:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/linux-stop-holding-our-kids-back.html | Nov 04 05:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk | The Blog of Helios: Linux - Stop holding our kids back [ http://ur1.ca/ioomo ] | Nov 04 05:05 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk/2009/03/tempers-flare-as-recession-creeps-into.html | Nov 04 05:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk | The Blog of Helios: Tempers Flare as Recession Creeps into Tech Industry [ http://ur1.ca/ioomp ] | Nov 04 05:05 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5086440 | Nov 04 05:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 04 05:06 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Free as in...?" | Nov 04 05:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5086592 | Nov 04 05:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 04 05:06 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Ah ChristianToday.com... My go to source for all news Android." | Nov 04 05:06 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5095917 | Nov 04 15:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu Community Will Resist the Switch to Unity 8 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Community-Will-Rezist-the-Switch-to-Unity-8-463853.shtml #unity #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Nov 04 15:14 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Community Will Resist the Switch to Unity 8 - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/iou6s ] | Nov 04 15:14 | |
| schestowitz__ | "But, didn't they also resist the switch to Unity in the first place?" | Nov 04 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | "Did you read the article or just bot-post the headline? There is no substance to the article at all - doesn't touch on any roadmap, any actual resistance, any data, or really - anything." | Nov 04 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | "It's just a sensationalist headline with content so empty they could just have left the lorem ipsum." | Nov 04 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5080644 | Nov 04 15:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The coming fortnight will be relatively quiet (in terms of online activity) due to house move. Preparations also take up time. | Nov 04 15:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I hate moving. I hope everything goes well for you." | Nov 04 15:15 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5076572 | Nov 04 15:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Taunton Students Suspended After Posing With Airsoft Rifles On Facebook http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/28/taunton-students-suspended-after-posing-with-airsoft-rifles-on-facebook/ #facebook #consequences | Nov 04 15:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | "076572" | Nov 04 15:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> boston.cbslocal.com | Taunton Students Suspended After Posing With Airsoft Rifles On Facebook « CBS Boston [ http://ur1.ca/inwjg ] | Nov 04 15:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I know you did LW. Obviously whoever suspended them though, thought differently." | Nov 04 15:16 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5096310 | Nov 04 17:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Larry Augustin: Open source pioneer. #SugarCRM CEO. Gym rat. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/larry-augustin-open-source-pioneer-sugarcrm-ceo-gym-rat/ "helped coin the term "open source."" | Nov 04 17:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techrepublic.com | Larry Augustin: Open source pioneer. SugarCRM CEO. Gym rat. - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/iox1s ] | Nov 04 17:50 | |
| schestowitz__ | "<a href="http://libreplanet.org/wiki/DonorTransactionandContactSystem">LibrePlanet list of CRM</a>." | Nov 04 17:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-libreplanet.org | Bad title - LibrePlanet [ http://ur1.ca/iox1t ] | Nov 04 17:50 | |
| schestowitz__ | > How was my traffic last month? | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Third best this year: | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | MonthUnique visitorsNumber of visitsPagesHitsBandwidth | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Jan 20147,64525,677196,065290,5507.40 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 20147,32225,852191,602294,5456.06 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Mar 20147,62228,483253,523358,8279.67 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Apr 20148,58423,686188,851310,3767.53 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | May 20148,97220,693250,900400,03613.85 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Jun 20148,88323,843197,321346,3038.77 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Jul 201411,22030,749218,990350,9059.23 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Aug 20149,22022,829212,064363,0199.58 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Sep 201411,60025,125207,204387,34910.20 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Oct 20148,52526,453244,609423,60410.63 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Nov 20149391,97218,10129,826754.02 MB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Nov 04 18:30 | |
| schestowitz__ | > How many visits are you getting on your web sites? I imagine you have quite a following. | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't really keep track too well. It doesn't matter as much as writing new things. | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Nov 04 18:30 | |
| schestowitz__ | > Are you staying in touch with your mom & dad? | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | My sister is coming here this week. My brother and dad buy a house here in Manchester this week. | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | > Any thoughts about starting a Roy Schestowitz dynasty to follow in your footsteps? Haha...but why am I chuckling. Probably because you're getting that question asked frequently lately and it is embarrassing and too personal to answer until it is a fait accompli. | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Rianne and I are fine, we're enjoying each other, not bored, and busy with our Web sites. | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5086617 | Nov 05 07:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Q: What's that? A: It's the Web. Q: What's that thing doing...? A: It spies on people. Q And they use it? A: In exchange for info. #www | Nov 05 07:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | ""I traded my civil liberties for cat videos and didn't even get a lousy T-shirt."" | Nov 05 07:38 |
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| *Topic for #techbytes set by ThistleWeb!~gordon@unaffiliated/thistleweb at Wed Jan 5 20:55:35 2011 | Nov 05 15:25 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5108921 | Nov 05 22:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: SMS: "Which apps and tools actually keep your messages safe?" https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard #eff | Nov 05 22:38 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.eff.org | Secure Messaging Scorecard | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/iovtu ] | Nov 05 22:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Neato." | Nov 05 22:38 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121430 | Nov 06 19:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rebranding #tor "al-Qaeda browser" for fear http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1633498/secure-al-qaeda-browser-shows-how-terrorist-groups-are-ramping-data help the #fud http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/opinion/2379739/was-gchqs-robert-hannigan-right-or-wrong-to-call-on-tech-firms-to-help-with-terrorism-threat | Nov 06 19:01 | |
| schestowitz__ | "welp now that I'm not sharing internet with neighbors any more, time to turn my middle relay back on. (fucking #hulu bans IPs which run middle relays, of all the stupid things)" | Nov 06 19:01 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.scmp.com | ‘Secure’ al-Qaeda browser shows how terrorists are ramping up data defences since Snowden leaks | South China Morning Post [ http://ur1.ca/iprc8 ] | Nov 06 19:01 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.computing.co.uk | Was GCHQ's Robert Hannigan right or wrong to call on tech firms to help with terrorism threat? - 06 Nov 2014 - Computing Opinion [ http://ur1.ca/iprc9 ] | Nov 06 19:01 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Ok. This how now passed over the line into purely ridiculous. Do they really want to run with the line that the Department of Defence is funding "The Al-Qaeda Browser"? Lol. Well, I guess Al-Qaeda was originally funded by the CIA, so hey, why not?" | Nov 06 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "This is why we can't have nice things' | Nov 06 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "I don't know about that. Personally I find it delightful and hilarious that the US Government funds Tor. Yes, it needs to be watched like a hawk, but personally I'd trust Jacob Applebaum to do that well." | Nov 06 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "The DoD knows only too well that it's not just civilians that can reap the benefits of an anonymous and secure communications channel." | Nov 06 19:02 |
| MinceR | we can rebrand things like that too | Nov 06 19:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "Indeed. In fact it's not even primarily civilians who benefit, which I guess is why they fund Tor at all. Still - as long as they're going to, we might as well take full advantage of it for the good of the civilian populace.' | Nov 06 19:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "More disinfo. The more Tor is pimped as a great threat to civilization by The Organs, the more suckers will believe that Tor is actually secure against state-actor COMINT, which it glaringly is not when it's running on a network of transparently insecure volunteer home boxes. Think about it." | Nov 06 19:03 |
| MinceR | in other words, "two can play that game" | Nov 06 19:03 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah | Nov 06 19:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "I don't think anyone's claiming Tor is perfect. What do you feel the best option is without becoming a digital hermit? I2P? Using the net without using any kind of anonymity service? Something else?" | Nov 06 19:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "Having haunted the Tor dev lists for a long time, I'd echo the sentiment that Appelbaum, Dingledine et al are doing their best. There is no system of communication that is immune to tinfoil. Tor and I2P are the best we've got, and the developers and volunteer operators work extremely hard in promoting anonymity and heterogeneity within the relay and exit nodes." | Nov 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | you could connect to i2p via tor :> | Nov 06 19:04 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5118538 | Nov 06 19:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Former #NSA Lawyer Says Reason Blackberry Failed Was 'Too Much Encryption' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20141104/15480529040/former-nsa-lawys-stewart-baker-thinks-reason-blackberry-failed-was-too-much-encryption.shtml I guess that's why Windows widely used | Nov 06 19:05 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Former NSA Lawyer Says Reason Blackberry Failed Was 'Too Much Encryption' Warns Google/Apple Not To Make Same Mistake | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/iprcv ] | Nov 06 19:05 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Oh noes! Encryption will destroy us all! Will somebody please think of the children!!!!" | Nov 06 19:05 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: yes, overlap exists | Nov 06 19:06 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121249 | Nov 06 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Former NSA lawyer is intimidating/blackmailing companies that encrypt http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/11/05/former_nsa_general_counsel_stewart_baker_says_that_offering_strong_encryption.html http://rt.com/usa/202599-stewart-baker-blackberry-encryption/ | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.slate.com | BlackBerry: Former NSA general counsel Stewart Baker says that offering strong encryption is bad business for tech companies. [ http://ur1.ca/iprcx ] | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Oh NSA. You so crazy." | Nov 06 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> rt.com | Former NSA attorney blames Blackberry’s demise on encryption — RT USA [ http://ur1.ca/iprcy ] | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121148 | Nov 06 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Departure of the likes of Mark #Udall means more aggressive foreign policy is imminent /katenocera/nsa-domestic-spying-opponents-undeterred-by-mark-udalls-loss http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/11/nsa-critic-udall-is-sent-packing-as-republicans-grab-senate/ | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.com | NSA critic Udall is sent packing as Republicans grab Senate | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/iprd0 ] | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| schestowitz__ | "A sad day." | Nov 06 19:06 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5125672 | Nov 07 08:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Postal 2 No Longer Being Worked On By Icculus, RWS Taking It In-house http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/postal-2-no-longer-being-worked-on-by-icculus-rws-taking-it-inhouse.4551/ #postal2 #gnu #linux #games | Nov 07 08:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | "aaaand that was the last anyone ever saw of it." | Nov 07 08:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Postal 2 No Longer Being Worked On By Icculus, RWS Taking It In-house | GamingOnLinux | Nov 07 08:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121430 | Nov 07 08:18 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | The fundamental problem with Tor is that it's running on a network of transparently unsecured volunteer home boxes, which are mainly collections of backdoors and poor security practices. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | At least in the large majority of cases, you can't hide the fact you're running a working Tor node from the NSA (who are monitoring Tor), nor can you protect your box from them. How can this ever equal Tor "security"? | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | This presents zero problem to the NSA which can auto-hack the majority of nodes with no serious expenditure of resources (do an audit of how staggeringly much COMINT they do per day -- this is utterly trivial). The canned "god mode" series of auto hacks from eight years ago could do this on real systems running any major OS. How can a home box's imaginary protection fare now? | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Roy may be right about Russia not having hacked Tor (though I'm somewhat doubtful), and Iran probably hasn't, though it's only a matter of time. I've always believed that the NSA knew they had the advantage in resources to pwn Tor, but assumed that as long as it was promoted to the suckers, the level of Tor activity would always increase to keep it above the COMINT capabilities of anyone else. I thought of this as the "SDI Defense," | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | where a tech was too expensive for anyone but the US to even know if it was valid, and lesser players would go broke trying to keep up. Intuitively, I think they'd be wrong about that, but we'll probably never know for sure. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | On top of all this, there are numerous known ways (vid. Snowden docs) like various injection attacks to simply breeze through Tor like it's not there. Even hypothetically, Tor provides zero protection from them, and they probably aren't above the capabilities and resources of lesser players. It's not pwning the entire Tor system, but it's enough to get specific targets and groups. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | I just can't see how to feel good about Tor for serious work. As an old spook, it's smelled bad to me for a long time. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | @cronos The idea is not to have a big shiny lock on a rusty shed with no back wall. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | That's about the best analogy. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | As the old adage goes, "locks are to keep honest people out." | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | "I do want to say that Tor is at least useful in evading commercial meddling with your browsing, so there is that -- but the significant cost in performance combined with the probability of attracting unwanted attention from The Organs makes its use unattractive to me, personally." | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Most good computer security meaures, as locks in doors, are not to stop a targeted attack of someone with plenty of resources, but to slow down indiscriminated attacks enough to make them not worth the effort. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | If someone has something criminal to hide or is a freedom fighter and is under suspicion it's hard even with anonymizing software to get away, most of the time for faults not related to the software, but if lots of people use tor and encryption then it will become too expensive and useless for the government pervasive surveillance, if 99% of the people is just looking at cats photos on the internet. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | If I have two good locks on a good door and the neighbor has only a standard one he is more likely to be targeted than me, and it's the same for computers. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Yes, up to a point. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | The problem here is that while this may work with the neighborhood scriptkiddie (or maybe even Google), it simply doesn't with the NSA. People here simply have no concept of the sheer scale of the NSA's capabilities and resources. You can never inconvenience them more than you do yourself (with the exception of raw encryption out of any context), plus in doing stuff that is expressly hostile, you simply draw unwanted attention -- sort | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | of the reverse of your example. They don't ignore you, they focus on you, and you're backdoored enough on the typical home box to get a good auto-sniffing in less time than it took me to write this. You're typically backdoored from your ISP upward...so your "locks" don't really enter into it. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | At some point you have to realize the ugly, sour truth that not only do you not own the net, you don't even own your own box. And you're never going to reclaim either of them. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | "@Privata Persona - I repeat my original question: What do you actually propose as a better method than using Tor?" | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | For which purpose? | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't believe you can be significantly private nor secure nor (especially) anonymous on your own Internet box, and this is the bottom line. Nobody has given me the slightest credible reason to believe otherwise. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | If you've come in late, I've been screaming about the NSA and its explosive expansion and utter disregard for basic human rights for thirty (30) years, and until Snowden came along, everyone thought I was crazy. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | I wasn't. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | I can be forgiven for being dismissive of those who are finally, dimly getting the memo at least a couple of decades too late to do anything about it and are replaying all the identical mistakes from around 1992 (Cypherpunks era) while thinking it's progress. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | This war was lost a very long time ago. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | You're not going to reclaim the net. You're not going to reclaim your net box. You're not going to reclaim any imaginary rights to privacy or security. Get over it. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | If there's any answer, it lies in getting anything sensitive totally off your net box and onto religiously airgapped secondary computers and not using your home net box for anything dodgy. View dubious sites at the library, and that may not even be secure. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | What I think offhand must be technically done ASAP to at least try to secure airgapped and RAMdrive/Live computers includes much analysis of possible BIOS compromises/backdoors and development of user-friendly exhaustive BIOS integrity checking software, likewise a very deep analysis of possible removable media exploits and countermeasures against them. Developing removable media exploits are huge with the NSA right now as they are | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | the primary way of compromising/infecting/pwning airgapped computers. What they are, we don't know aside from the recent big shock about USB being insecure. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | These are just the first couple of things to come to mind. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5119565 | Nov 07 08:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Windows 8.1... as soon as I clicked "no" to handing my administrator user over to Microsoft, it disabled encryption" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=4713&cid=113463 | Nov 07 08:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Couldn't resolve host 'soylentnews.org' ( status 0 @ https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=4713&cid=113463 ) | Nov 07 08:25 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5125644 | Nov 07 08:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Verizon Now Pleads For Bogus #NetNeutrality Rules Under 706 Promising It Won't Sue This Time, Ignoring Others Will Sue https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20141105/17524329061/verizon-now-pleads-bogus-net-neutrality-rules-under-706-promising-it-wont-sue-this-time-ignoring-that-others-will-sue.shtml | Nov 07 08:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Verizon Now Pleads For Bogus Net Neutrality Rules Under 706 Promising It Won't Sue This Time, Ignoring That Others Will Sue | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/ipw83 ] | Nov 07 08:25 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121468 | Nov 07 08:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GCHQ’s flawed premise that the internet is a tool of terror http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/feb6362c-6452-11e4-bac8-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3IJ0Dg1qG #gchq "breach of the European Convention on Human Rights." | Nov 07 08:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.ft.com | GCHQ’s flawed premise that the internet is a tool of terror - FT.com [ http://ur1.ca/ipw85 ] | Nov 07 08:25 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121148 | Nov 07 08:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Departure of the likes of Mark #Udall means more aggressive foreign policy is imminent /katenocera/nsa-domestic-spying-opponents-undeterred-by-mark-udalls-loss http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/11/nsa-critic-udall-is-sent-packing-as-republicans-grab-senate/ | Nov 07 08:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.com | NSA critic Udall is sent packing as Republicans grab Senate | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/iprd0 ] | Nov 07 08:25 | |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorpe_Park | Nov 02 04:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Thorpe Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/iny5p ] | Nov 02 04:06 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Thorpe Park Resort is a theme park in between the towns of Chertsey and Staines, Surrey, England, UK. After demolition of the Thorpe Park Estate in the 1930s, the site became a gravel pit. Thorpe Park was built in 1979 on the gravel pit which was partially flooded, creating a water-based theme for the park. The park's first large roller coaster, Colossus, was added in 2002. Merlin Entertainments own and operate the park.' | Nov 02 04:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Thorpe Park is in between the towns of Chertsey and Staines, Surrey, England, UK. After demolition of the Thorpe Park Estate in the 1930s, the site became a gravel pit. Originally the gravel pit was owned by Ready Mixed Concrete Limited; in the late 1970s they decided to flood part of the site and create an educational theme park. The park opened as a small attraction, building slowly up to RMCs first large installation of "X:\No | Nov 02 04:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Way Out" in 1996. In 1998, The Tussauds Group bought the park (they also owned the nearby Chessington World of Adventures). From the outset the park started opening key attractions such as Tidal Wave in 2000, Colossus in 2002, Nemesis Inferno in 2003 and Stealth in 2006." | Nov 02 04:07 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GOL Survey (almost 1000 people polled): "Do you currently use Linux as your primary PC gaming platform?" 88% say yes http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/gol-survey-results-october.4532/ | Nov 03 04:57 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "all those unix nazis... :)" | Nov 03 04:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gamingonlinux.com | GOL Survey Results: October | GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/iocq1 ] | Nov 03 04:57 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5086428 "I played it for a while and meh." | Nov 03 04:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Double Action, A New Free FPS For Linux Using The Source Engine & It's Amusing http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/double-action-a-new-free-fps-for-linux-using-the-source-engine-its-amusing.4524/ #gnu #linux #games #fps | Nov 03 04:57 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Double Action, A New Free FPS For Linux Using The Source Engine & It's Amusing | GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/iocqa ] | Nov 03 04:57 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5076565 | Nov 03 04:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Facebook, hidden services, and https certs https://blog.torproject.org/blog/facebook-hidden-services-and-https-certs #facebook #pr move? | Nov 03 04:58 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "They still can use dragnet to take a picture of your URL. And still know it's facebook. I don't even use facebook really anymore." | Nov 03 04:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> blog.torproject.org | Facebook, hidden services, and https certs | The Tor Blog [ http://ur1.ca/inq4z ] | Nov 03 04:58 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Zuck said people who trust him are stupid." | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I'm actually a little bewildered by this. Facebook insists on users using real identities. So this is not about anonymity. | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | As for the ISPs, I honestly don't think they could care less. | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | As for the surveilling agencies, they have your identity from what you post. And they have enough tor servers that they can track you through that anyway. | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | So if this isn't just a public relations move, then what is it? | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Pssst, they have this thing called aspects.' | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "ISPs care very much. Cox filtered both my inbound and outbound email for keywords and censored it maliciously at least twice. They had data "sharing" agreements with the database owners and were very much a part of PRISM. I imagine they were paid for these unethical services just like ATT and Microsoft were. Long ago, I moved my email to Google because it was more reliable and because I did not want to be at the mercy of a | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Microsoft partner any more. It's sad that Google too is a PRISM partner, but I still think I"m better off with them than others." | Nov 03 04:58 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Nov 03 04:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | @willhill@joindiaspora.com , were you running your own MTA when that happened? | Nov 03 04:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | And are ISPs cracking the content of encrypted communications? | Nov 03 04:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I get that your experience could be very different from mine. My experience is in running both hosted servers and servers at home. My web server forces all connections (except one, for a particular operational reason) to https and my MTA accepts encrypted connections. | Nov 03 04:59 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | As to passing unencrypted traffic to email and web services hosted by certain lowlife ISPs, I can entirely believe that what you described happened. | Nov 03 04:59 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > Remember his bogus story about teacher 'Karen' of the AISD | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > confiscating a Linux CD some pupil brought in. Thing is, the AISD have | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > no recollection of any such incident. Starks is nothing but a parasite | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > that lives off the edge of the charity sector. When previously asked | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > to produce the names of some recipients of these 'free' computers, he | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > couldn't provide any as the pupils moved around alot. Who are these | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > 1,700 computers placed with? What are their names? Who are these 166 | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > volunteers? What are their names? | Nov 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Nov 04 05:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://fossforce.com/2014/11/video-ken-starks-ruth-suehles-keynotes-at-olf/ | Nov 04 05:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-fossforce.com | Video: Ken Starks' & Ruth Suehle's Keynotes at OLF | FOSS Force [ http://ur1.ca/ioomm ] | Nov 04 05:05 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Nov 04 05:05 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk/2008/12/linux-stop-holding-our-kids-back.html | Nov 04 05:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk | The Blog of Helios: Linux - Stop holding our kids back [ http://ur1.ca/ioomo ] | Nov 04 05:05 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > http://linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk/2009/03/tempers-flare-as-recession-creeps-into.html | Nov 04 05:05 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-linuxlock.blogspot.co.uk | The Blog of Helios: Tempers Flare as Recession Creeps into Tech Industry [ http://ur1.ca/ioomp ] | Nov 04 05:05 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5086440 | Nov 04 05:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 04 05:06 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Free as in...?" | Nov 04 05:06 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5086592 | Nov 04 05:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-Not a Diaspora post? | Nov 04 05:06 | |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "Ah ChristianToday.com... My go to source for all news Android." | Nov 04 05:06 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5095917 | Nov 04 15:14 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Ubuntu Community Will Resist the Switch to Unity 8 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Community-Will-Rezist-the-Switch-to-Unity-8-463853.shtml #unity #ubuntu #gnu #linux | Nov 04 15:14 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Community Will Resist the Switch to Unity 8 - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/iou6s ] | Nov 04 15:14 | |
| schestowitz__ | "But, didn't they also resist the switch to Unity in the first place?" | Nov 04 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | "Did you read the article or just bot-post the headline? There is no substance to the article at all - doesn't touch on any roadmap, any actual resistance, any data, or really - anything." | Nov 04 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | "It's just a sensationalist headline with content so empty they could just have left the lorem ipsum." | Nov 04 15:14 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5080644 | Nov 04 15:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The coming fortnight will be relatively quiet (in terms of online activity) due to house move. Preparations also take up time. | Nov 04 15:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I hate moving. I hope everything goes well for you." | Nov 04 15:15 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5076572 | Nov 04 15:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Taunton Students Suspended After Posing With Airsoft Rifles On Facebook http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/28/taunton-students-suspended-after-posing-with-airsoft-rifles-on-facebook/ #facebook #consequences | Nov 04 15:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | "076572" | Nov 04 15:16 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> boston.cbslocal.com | Taunton Students Suspended After Posing With Airsoft Rifles On Facebook « CBS Boston [ http://ur1.ca/inwjg ] | Nov 04 15:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I know you did LW. Obviously whoever suspended them though, thought differently." | Nov 04 15:16 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5096310 | Nov 04 17:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Larry Augustin: Open source pioneer. #SugarCRM CEO. Gym rat. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/larry-augustin-open-source-pioneer-sugarcrm-ceo-gym-rat/ "helped coin the term "open source."" | Nov 04 17:50 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techrepublic.com | Larry Augustin: Open source pioneer. SugarCRM CEO. Gym rat. - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/iox1s ] | Nov 04 17:50 | |
| schestowitz__ | "<a href="http://libreplanet.org/wiki/DonorTransactionandContactSystem">LibrePlanet list of CRM</a>." | Nov 04 17:50 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-libreplanet.org | Bad title - LibrePlanet [ http://ur1.ca/iox1t ] | Nov 04 17:50 | |
| schestowitz__ | > How was my traffic last month? | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Third best this year: | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | MonthUnique visitorsNumber of visitsPagesHitsBandwidth | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Jan 20147,64525,677196,065290,5507.40 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 20147,32225,852191,602294,5456.06 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Mar 20147,62228,483253,523358,8279.67 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Apr 20148,58423,686188,851310,3767.53 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | May 20148,97220,693250,900400,03613.85 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Jun 20148,88323,843197,321346,3038.77 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Jul 201411,22030,749218,990350,9059.23 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Aug 20149,22022,829212,064363,0199.58 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Sep 201411,60025,125207,204387,34910.20 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Oct 20148,52526,453244,609423,60410.63 GB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Nov 20149391,97218,10129,826754.02 MB | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Nov 04 18:30 | |
| schestowitz__ | > How many visits are you getting on your web sites? I imagine you have quite a following. | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't really keep track too well. It doesn't matter as much as writing new things. | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Nov 04 18:30 | |
| schestowitz__ | > Are you staying in touch with your mom & dad? | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | My sister is coming here this week. My brother and dad buy a house here in Manchester this week. | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | > Any thoughts about starting a Roy Schestowitz dynasty to follow in your footsteps? Haha...but why am I chuckling. Probably because you're getting that question asked frequently lately and it is embarrassing and too personal to answer until it is a fait accompli. | Nov 04 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Rianne and I are fine, we're enjoying each other, not bored, and busy with our Web sites. | Nov 04 18:31 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5086617 | Nov 05 07:38 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Q: What's that? A: It's the Web. Q: What's that thing doing...? A: It spies on people. Q And they use it? A: In exchange for info. #www | Nov 05 07:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | ""I traded my civil liberties for cat videos and didn't even get a lousy T-shirt."" | Nov 05 07:38 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5108921 | Nov 05 22:39 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: SMS: "Which apps and tools actually keep your messages safe?" https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard #eff | Nov 05 22:39 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.eff.org | Secure Messaging Scorecard | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/iovtu ] | Nov 05 22:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Neato." | Nov 05 22:39 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121430 | Nov 06 19:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Rebranding #tor "al-Qaeda browser" for fear http://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/1633498/secure-al-qaeda-browser-shows-how-terrorist-groups-are-ramping-data help the #fud http://www.computing.co.uk/ctg/opinion/2379739/was-gchqs-robert-hannigan-right-or-wrong-to-call-on-tech-firms-to-help-with-terrorism-threat | Nov 06 19:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | "welp now that I'm not sharing internet with neighbors any more, time to turn my middle relay back on. (fucking #hulu bans IPs which run middle relays, of all the stupid things)" | Nov 06 19:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.scmp.com | ‘Secure’ al-Qaeda browser shows how terrorists are ramping up data defences since Snowden leaks | South China Morning Post [ http://ur1.ca/iprc8 ] | Nov 06 19:02 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.computing.co.uk | Was GCHQ's Robert Hannigan right or wrong to call on tech firms to help with terrorism threat? - 06 Nov 2014 - Computing Opinion [ http://ur1.ca/iprc9 ] | Nov 06 19:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Ok. This how now passed over the line into purely ridiculous. Do they really want to run with the line that the Department of Defence is funding "The Al-Qaeda Browser"? Lol. Well, I guess Al-Qaeda was originally funded by the CIA, so hey, why not?" | Nov 06 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "This is why we can't have nice things' | Nov 06 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "I don't know about that. Personally I find it delightful and hilarious that the US Government funds Tor. Yes, it needs to be watched like a hawk, but personally I'd trust Jacob Applebaum to do that well." | Nov 06 19:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "The DoD knows only too well that it's not just civilians that can reap the benefits of an anonymous and secure communications channel." | Nov 06 19:03 |
| MinceR | we can rebrand things like that too | Nov 06 19:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "Indeed. In fact it's not even primarily civilians who benefit, which I guess is why they fund Tor at all. Still - as long as they're going to, we might as well take full advantage of it for the good of the civilian populace.' | Nov 06 19:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "More disinfo. The more Tor is pimped as a great threat to civilization by The Organs, the more suckers will believe that Tor is actually secure against state-actor COMINT, which it glaringly is not when it's running on a network of transparently insecure volunteer home boxes. Think about it." | Nov 06 19:03 |
| MinceR | in other words, "two can play that game" | Nov 06 19:03 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah | Nov 06 19:04 |
| schestowitz__ | "I don't think anyone's claiming Tor is perfect. What do you feel the best option is without becoming a digital hermit? I2P? Using the net without using any kind of anonymity service? Something else?" | Nov 06 19:04 |
| schestowitz__ | "Having haunted the Tor dev lists for a long time, I'd echo the sentiment that Appelbaum, Dingledine et al are doing their best. There is no system of communication that is immune to tinfoil. Tor and I2P are the best we've got, and the developers and volunteer operators work extremely hard in promoting anonymity and heterogeneity within the relay and exit nodes." | Nov 06 19:04 |
| MinceR | you could connect to i2p via tor :> | Nov 06 19:05 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5118538 | Nov 06 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Former #NSA Lawyer Says Reason Blackberry Failed Was 'Too Much Encryption' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20141104/15480529040/former-nsa-lawys-stewart-baker-thinks-reason-blackberry-failed-was-too-much-encryption.shtml I guess that's why Windows widely used | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Former NSA Lawyer Says Reason Blackberry Failed Was 'Too Much Encryption' Warns Google/Apple Not To Make Same Mistake | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/iprcv ] | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Oh noes! Encryption will destroy us all! Will somebody please think of the children!!!!" | Nov 06 19:06 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: yes, overlap exists | Nov 06 19:06 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121249 | Nov 06 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Former NSA lawyer is intimidating/blackmailing companies that encrypt http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/11/05/former_nsa_general_counsel_stewart_baker_says_that_offering_strong_encryption.html http://rt.com/usa/202599-stewart-baker-blackberry-encryption/ | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.slate.com | BlackBerry: Former NSA general counsel Stewart Baker says that offering strong encryption is bad business for tech companies. [ http://ur1.ca/iprcx ] | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Oh NSA. You so crazy." | Nov 06 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> rt.com | Former NSA attorney blames Blackberry’s demise on encryption — RT USA [ http://ur1.ca/iprcy ] | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121148 | Nov 06 19:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Departure of the likes of Mark #Udall means more aggressive foreign policy is imminent /katenocera/nsa-domestic-spying-opponents-undeterred-by-mark-udalls-loss http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/11/nsa-critic-udall-is-sent-packing-as-republicans-grab-senate/ | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.com | NSA critic Udall is sent packing as Republicans grab Senate | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/iprd0 ] | Nov 06 19:06 | |
| schestowitz__ | "A sad day." | Nov 06 19:06 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5125672 | Nov 07 08:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Postal 2 No Longer Being Worked On By Icculus, RWS Taking It In-house http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/postal-2-no-longer-being-worked-on-by-icculus-rws-taking-it-inhouse.4551/ #postal2 #gnu #linux #games | Nov 07 08:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | "aaaand that was the last anyone ever saw of it." | Nov 07 08:15 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.gamingonlinux.com | Postal 2 No Longer Being Worked On By Icculus, RWS Taking It In-house | GamingOnLinux | Nov 07 08:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121430 | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | The fundamental problem with Tor is that it's running on a network of transparently unsecured volunteer home boxes, which are mainly collections of backdoors and poor security practices. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | At least in the large majority of cases, you can't hide the fact you're running a working Tor node from the NSA (who are monitoring Tor), nor can you protect your box from them. How can this ever equal Tor "security"? | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | This presents zero problem to the NSA which can auto-hack the majority of nodes with no serious expenditure of resources (do an audit of how staggeringly much COMINT they do per day -- this is utterly trivial). The canned "god mode" series of auto hacks from eight years ago could do this on real systems running any major OS. How can a home box's imaginary protection fare now? | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Roy may be right about Russia not having hacked Tor (though I'm somewhat doubtful), and Iran probably hasn't, though it's only a matter of time. I've always believed that the NSA knew they had the advantage in resources to pwn Tor, but assumed that as long as it was promoted to the suckers, the level of Tor activity would always increase to keep it above the COMINT capabilities of anyone else. I thought of this as the "SDI Defense," | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | where a tech was too expensive for anyone but the US to even know if it was valid, and lesser players would go broke trying to keep up. Intuitively, I think they'd be wrong about that, but we'll probably never know for sure. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | On top of all this, there are numerous known ways (vid. Snowden docs) like various injection attacks to simply breeze through Tor like it's not there. Even hypothetically, Tor provides zero protection from them, and they probably aren't above the capabilities and resources of lesser players. It's not pwning the entire Tor system, but it's enough to get specific targets and groups. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | I just can't see how to feel good about Tor for serious work. As an old spook, it's smelled bad to me for a long time. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | @cronos The idea is not to have a big shiny lock on a rusty shed with no back wall. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | That's about the best analogy. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | As the old adage goes, "locks are to keep honest people out." | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | "I do want to say that Tor is at least useful in evading commercial meddling with your browsing, so there is that -- but the significant cost in performance combined with the probability of attracting unwanted attention from The Organs makes its use unattractive to me, personally." | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Most good computer security meaures, as locks in doors, are not to stop a targeted attack of someone with plenty of resources, but to slow down indiscriminated attacks enough to make them not worth the effort. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | If someone has something criminal to hide or is a freedom fighter and is under suspicion it's hard even with anonymizing software to get away, most of the time for faults not related to the software, but if lots of people use tor and encryption then it will become too expensive and useless for the government pervasive surveillance, if 99% of the people is just looking at cats photos on the internet. | Nov 07 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | If I have two good locks on a good door and the neighbor has only a standard one he is more likely to be targeted than me, and it's the same for computers. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Yes, up to a point. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | The problem here is that while this may work with the neighborhood scriptkiddie (or maybe even Google), it simply doesn't with the NSA. People here simply have no concept of the sheer scale of the NSA's capabilities and resources. You can never inconvenience them more than you do yourself (with the exception of raw encryption out of any context), plus in doing stuff that is expressly hostile, you simply draw unwanted attention -- sort | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | of the reverse of your example. They don't ignore you, they focus on you, and you're backdoored enough on the typical home box to get a good auto-sniffing in less time than it took me to write this. You're typically backdoored from your ISP upward...so your "locks" don't really enter into it. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | At some point you have to realize the ugly, sour truth that not only do you not own the net, you don't even own your own box. And you're never going to reclaim either of them. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | "@Privata Persona - I repeat my original question: What do you actually propose as a better method than using Tor?" | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | For which purpose? | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't believe you can be significantly private nor secure nor (especially) anonymous on your own Internet box, and this is the bottom line. Nobody has given me the slightest credible reason to believe otherwise. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | If you've come in late, I've been screaming about the NSA and its explosive expansion and utter disregard for basic human rights for thirty (30) years, and until Snowden came along, everyone thought I was crazy. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | I wasn't. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | I can be forgiven for being dismissive of those who are finally, dimly getting the memo at least a couple of decades too late to do anything about it and are replaying all the identical mistakes from around 1992 (Cypherpunks era) while thinking it's progress. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | This war was lost a very long time ago. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | You're not going to reclaim the net. You're not going to reclaim your net box. You're not going to reclaim any imaginary rights to privacy or security. Get over it. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | If there's any answer, it lies in getting anything sensitive totally off your net box and onto religiously airgapped secondary computers and not using your home net box for anything dodgy. View dubious sites at the library, and that may not even be secure. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | What I think offhand must be technically done ASAP to at least try to secure airgapped and RAMdrive/Live computers includes much analysis of possible BIOS compromises/backdoors and development of user-friendly exhaustive BIOS integrity checking software, likewise a very deep analysis of possible removable media exploits and countermeasures against them. Developing removable media exploits are huge with the NSA right now as they are | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | the primary way of compromising/infecting/pwning airgapped computers. What they are, we don't know aside from the recent big shock about USB being insecure. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | These are just the first couple of things to come to mind. | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 07 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5119565 | Nov 07 08:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Windows 8.1... as soon as I clicked "no" to handing my administrator user over to Microsoft, it disabled encryption" https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=4713&cid=113463 | Nov 07 08:25 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5125644 | Nov 07 08:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Verizon Now Pleads For Bogus #NetNeutrality Rules Under 706 Promising It Won't Sue This Time, Ignoring Others Will Sue https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20141105/17524329061/verizon-now-pleads-bogus-net-neutrality-rules-under-706-promising-it-wont-sue-this-time-ignoring-that-others-will-sue.shtml | Nov 07 08:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.techdirt.com | Verizon Now Pleads For Bogus Net Neutrality Rules Under 706 Promising It Won't Sue This Time, Ignoring That Others Will Sue | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/ipw83 ] | Nov 07 08:25 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121468 | Nov 07 08:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: GCHQ’s flawed premise that the internet is a tool of terror http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/feb6362c-6452-11e4-bac8-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3IJ0Dg1qG #gchq "breach of the European Convention on Human Rights." | Nov 07 08:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.ft.com | GCHQ’s flawed premise that the internet is a tool of terror - FT.com [ http://ur1.ca/ipw85 ] | Nov 07 08:26 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5121148 | Nov 07 08:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Departure of the likes of Mark #Udall means more aggressive foreign policy is imminent /katenocera/nsa-domestic-spying-opponents-undeterred-by-mark-udalls-loss http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/11/nsa-critic-udall-is-sent-packing-as-republicans-grab-senate/ | Nov 07 08:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> arstechnica.com | NSA critic Udall is sent packing as Republicans grab Senate | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/iprd0 ] | Nov 07 08:26 | |
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