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MinceRgnFeb 01 00:32
msb_DaemonFC: Thanks for the Canada Song!Feb 01 00:58
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DaemonFCRyan Farmer shared Blue Nation Review's photo.Feb 01 02:32
DaemonFC1 min · Feb 01 02:32
DaemonFCI've always wondered this. If Christianity and Islam are inherently peaceful, then why are the extreme examples of both so violent? You would expect the extreme example of a peaceful religion to be extremely peaceful. Would you not?Feb 01 02:32
msb_Judaism, Christianity and Islam have all ordered people to worship an undetectable (and non-existent) "god", and told them to murder anyone who wouldn't worship the god.  All three are male-supremacist, and Judaism and Islam do genital mutilation, which causes deep-seated personality problems.  The fact is, all these religions are based on psychopathy, and are very injurious to people and human society.  The claim that they are "Feb 01 04:04
msb_peaceful" is simply a Big Lie.Feb 01 04:04
msb_http://www.evilbible.com/Feb 01 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.evilbible.com | Evil Bible Home PageFeb 01 04:05
msb_The JCI religions were either designed from their beginning as means for controlling and thus exploiting people, or were rapidly adapted to that purpose by dominating organized psychopaths.Feb 01 04:09
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schestowitzmorning...Feb 01 10:20
XRevan86GreetingsFeb 01 10:20
schestowitzwriting some blogs now..Feb 01 10:21
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DaemonFCRyan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 01 13:46
DaemonFCJust now · Feb 01 13:46
DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/02/01/indianas-vaccination-rate-high-enough-keep-measles/22550735/?fb_action_ids=310763359133702&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 01 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indystar.com | Is Indiana's vaccination rate high enough to keep out measles? [ http://ur1.ca/jlzyp ]Feb 01 13:46
DaemonFCPeople with religious objections should move to a third world country to die of their 19th century diseases and leave the rest of us the hell alone. I don't want their filth near me!Feb 01 13:46
MinceRisn't it their divine right to serve as grounds for pathogens to replicate and mutate in? :>Feb 01 13:47
XRevan86People with religion should move to a third world country to die for their medieval beliefs and leave the rest of us the hell alone. I don't want their filth near me!Feb 01 13:48
MinceR(also to cross with other strains)Feb 01 13:48
DaemonFChttp://www.gallup.com/poll/181271/obesity-rate-inches-2014.aspxFeb 01 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gallup.com | U.S. Obesity Rate Inches Up to 27.7% in 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/jm00o ]Feb 01 13:53
DaemonFCI hate it when the news talks about obesity while showing footage of fat peoples butts as they walk around.Feb 01 13:54
MinceR:>Feb 01 13:54
cubexyzaspx ewww :)Feb 01 13:56
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5512303Feb 01 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Drop the disguise: your metadata still gives you away." http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26879-just-four-credit-card-clues-can-identify-anyone.html #facebook #google #microsoft #appleFeb 01 15:22
schestowitz"This is kinda why #BitCoin, the psuedo-anonymous crypto-currency, is so dangerous. I'm hoping the #zerocoin protocol (or something in the same spirit) is figured out"Feb 01 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newscientist.com | Just four credit card clues can identify anyone - tech - 29 January 2015 - New Scientist [ http://ur1.ca/jm0tj ]Feb 01 15:22
schestowitzDid it ever claim to be anonymous? Bitcoin was never marketed as such, was it?Feb 01 15:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5512828Feb 01 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Al-Qaeda and ISIS are products of US and Saudi imperialism." https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/01/united-states-saudi-arabia-isis/ byproducts maybe.Feb 01 15:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.jacobinmag.com | Don’t Blame Islam | Jacobin [ http://ur1.ca/jm0uc ]Feb 01 15:25
schestowitz"Hey, I was driving down your street last night at midnight, and couldn't help but notice someone emptying that jar of termites onto your house... You know, I happen to run an extermination business..."Feb 01 15:25
schestowitzSomething like that...Feb 01 15:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5516901Feb 01 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trolls in #twitter may actually get paid http://www.channel4.com/news/british-army-military-social-media-unit-twitter-troopsFeb 01 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.channel4.com | British Army unveils 'Twitter troops' for social media fight - Channel 4 News [ http://ur1.ca/jm0uy ]Feb 01 15:26
schestowitz"I've long suspected that 4chan is a collection of psyop (for both social-engineering, and experimentation) to manipulate young adults and ratchet up the atomization of society. Setting trends, shaping worldviews, etc. Now I'm sure of it. This is not new, btw. I remember about a year ago a few different CIA/Army brigades having the same outing, including sock-puppets, etc. Just can't remember their names. There's also the private Feb 01 15:26
schestowitzsector (including all of the PR industry)..."Feb 01 15:26
schestowitz"World war three through social media?"Feb 01 15:27
schestowitzWorse: engaging in war ON social mediaFeb 01 15:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5516927Feb 01 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ioerror/status/561583278319501313Feb 01 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ioerror: The https://t.co/0lPoCRCis7 is back and I get a captcha from @CloudFlare? This is a joke, right? Surely they're trolling, right?Feb 01 15:29
schestowitz"Honey-pot?"Feb 01 15:29
schestowitzSounds possibleFeb 01 15:29
DaemonFCRyan FarmerFeb 01 15:32
DaemonFCJust now · Feb 01 15:32
DaemonFCGod creates a man. God decides later to create a woman from a rib. The woman eats an apple from a tree because of a talking snake that told her to. Humans damned forever and banished from paradise.. Cain kills Abel and walks for a while until he gets to a "WTF!? Did I turn two pages at once? Where the hell did this come from?" village full of people even though there are only a handful of people on Earth at this point and the only way to Feb 01 15:32
DaemonFCget more people would be through incest. A while later, after destroying two cities with fire as sort of a dry run, God decides that the entire "human" thing was a bad idea and kills everyone in the world in a flood except one family that puts a breeding pair of every living thing on Earth on a boat. God populates everything in the world through incest again, including, presumably, the mosquitoes, but omitting the dinosaurs, who had an Feb 01 15:32
DaemonFCiPhone and thought that it would wake them up but Siri thought that they were looking for pictures of a farm instead of setting the alarm. People are still apparently as wicked post-flood as they ever have been. God couldn't have possibly seen it coming. God sends his son who is himself to Earth by way of virgin birth so that he can die and give himself the ability to grant people pardons from sin, which, as God, he could not have done Feb 01 15:32
DaemonFCbefore! Fundamentalist Christians tell us that God will kill everyone again because of gay people, but instead of repopulating the world through incest again, he'll simply beam up the people who believe in him even though this "rapture" isn't anywhere in the bible, but just bear with us because God will let all of those nasty homosexuals be fooled into accepting a one world government operated by a beast that is another manifestation of the Feb 01 15:32
DaemonFCaforementioned talking snake for seven years before God decides to intervene and cast the beast down into a lake of fire forever. Along the way, remember that original sin damns everyone to hell from birth unless they repeatedly ask for the aforementioned pardon, but that's too horrible to think of, because what about the children? So let's throw in an "age of accountability" that's not in the bible anywhere, and nobody knows exactly what Feb 01 15:32
DaemonFCage that is, and then declare that anything that children do to sin before that age won't send them to hell, but at the same time, let's try them as adults when they grab dad's gun off the rack that he bought with cash without a background check because it's Indiana and kills him with it because he wouldn't buy them an XBOX.Feb 01 15:32
schestowitzlolFeb 01 15:32
schestowitzif god made a woman from adam's rib, then they share the same dnaFeb 01 15:33
schestowitzthere can never be diversityFeb 01 15:33
schestowitzYoung boy: "mommy, where do dark people come from?"Feb 01 15:33
schestowitzhttp://openstack.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/openstack-02012015-am.htmlFeb 01 15:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openstack.blogspot.co.uk | Open Stack: OpenStack 02/01/2015 (a.m.) [ http://ur1.ca/jm0ye ]Feb 01 15:37
schestowitz"    The debate over online anonymity, and all the whistleblowers, trolls, anarchists, journalists and political dissidents it enables, is messy enough. It doesn’t need the US government making up bogus statistics about how much that anonymity facilitates child pornography."Feb 01 15:37
DaemonFCschestowitz, The Curse of Cain, obviously.Feb 01 15:37
DaemonFCHey, don't shoot the messenger! Feb 01 15:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5517838Feb 01 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com reshared: Boycott #Cyanogen / #CyanogenMod If Its Anti-Google Rhetoric and #Microsoft Funding Continue http://techrights.org/2015/02/01/cyanogen-microsoft/ #android #linuxFeb 01 15:58
schestowitz"Microsoft loves Linux!"Feb 01 15:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Boycott Cyanogen/CyanogenMod If Its Anti-Google Rhetoric and Microsoft Funding Continue | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/jm0fe ]Feb 01 15:58
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/RichardSmedley/status/561916549339295744Feb 01 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RichardSmedley: "In most projects, the #i18n process is hard to join & incomprehensible" #GNU priorities & problems http://t.co/TXIeWnqOia via @schestowitzFeb 01 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> laxstrom.name | GNU i18n for high priority projects list « It rains like a saaviFeb 01 16:01
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schestowitzhttp://sdtimes.com/microsoft-invest-android-os-maker-cyanogen-eff-wins-protracted-nsa-lawsuit-aws-go-sdk-sd-times-news-digest-jan-30-2015/Feb 01 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | Microsoft to invest in Android OS-maker Cyanogen, EFF wins protracted NSA lawsuit, and an AWS Go SDK—SD Times news digest: Jan. 30, 2015 - SD Times [ http://ur1.ca/jm1b3 ]Feb 01 16:15
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schestowitz"A copy of the text of the Danish article follows below - no translation available."Feb 01 17:56
schestowitzJust got ot :-)Feb 01 17:56
MinceRpity, cyanogen seemed usefulFeb 01 18:28
MinceRgeekingsFeb 01 18:31
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5518861Feb 01 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Assembly Bill 30, which would bar California high schools from using “Redskins” as sports team names." http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/dan-walters/article8596085.htmlFeb 01 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.sacbee.com | Opinion: Bill to ban a word is just censorship | The Sacramento Bee The Sacramento Bee [ http://ur1.ca/jm4pe ]Feb 01 22:34
schestowitz"Feb 01 22:34
schestowitz57B731E9Feb 01 22:34
schestowitzProposal to Californians: Never attend a game or event featuring a team with an offensive name, where an offensive name is one that offends you. Make an issue of gratuitous offensiveness. If the team's name is changed to one not offensive, continue to boycott for another 10 years. Make sure that offesive people fell your contempt -- all the time. Never let up.Feb 01 22:34
schestowitzProposal to the California Assembly: Pass a resolution instead which states, "Racially offensive names indelibly shame and disgrace all Californians. We will never forgive the constantly painful embarrassment that your vicious bigotry causes us. It is importatant to us that you are reminded every single second of your lives that we find you disgusting. We can never forget what you have done to all of us, and we can never forgive it. Feb 01 22:34
schestowitzShame on you. We wish you had never been born."Feb 01 22:34
schestowitz"Feb 01 22:34
MinceRgnFeb 01 22:37
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scientesschestowitz, what ever happened with the google book search settlement and U Mich stuff? I would be much more productive academically with OCR of books.Feb 02 04:14
scientesIt is a major PITA to look up something I read once in a 300p book without full text searchFeb 02 04:15
scientesnot to mention the effort of obtaining the book againFeb 02 04:15
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DaemonFChttp://arstechnica.com/business/2015/01/more-comcast-customers-write-in-report-name-changes-of-whore-dummy/Feb 02 06:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | More Comcast customers write in, report name changes of “whore,” “dummy” | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jm8ul ]Feb 02 06:22
DaemonFCApparently, the storm is causing a bunch of traffic accidents.Feb 02 07:11
DaemonFCOne person was killed in Marion when his car slid off the road and into the river on his way to church.Feb 02 07:11
DaemonFCIf he had stayed home in bed like I do, he would still be alive.Feb 02 07:12
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MinceRnatural selectionFeb 02 07:21
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msb_It's like those church busses that are always veering off the road and falling down a mountain.Feb 02 09:01
msb_busesFeb 02 09:05
msb_"I will bring you close unto me, my children!"  "AAgghhh!"Feb 02 09:10
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Sosumihttp://kotaku.com/kotaku-shop-contest-behind-microsofts-holographic-wall-1683100081Feb 02 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kotaku.com | Kotaku 'Shop Contest: Behind Microsoft's Holographic Wall: Winners!  [ http://ur1.ca/jmb2l ]Feb 02 11:42
SosumilolFeb 02 11:42
Sosumihttp://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s---RamHJn2--/km4qcujmikuy5nljzqvv.pngFeb 02 11:42
SosumiftwFeb 02 11:42
cubexyzI had this dubious notion that windows 7 might be more stable and less likely to blue screenFeb 02 11:46
cubexyzI found out later that it still blue screens quite oftenFeb 02 11:46
schestowitzlolFeb 02 11:48
cubexyzI think part of it is just overheating componentsFeb 02 11:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ibdtechblog/status/562210249147297792Feb 02 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ibdtechblog: @schestowitz Interesting siteFeb 02 11:50
schestowitzhttp://www.fosspatents.com/ is hardly active these daysFeb 02 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS PatentsFeb 02 11:58
schestowitzThat's goodFeb 02 11:58
schestowitzvery little outputFeb 02 11:58
msb_cubexyz: I thought computers were supposed to be able to handle any arbitrary sequence of instructions without overheating.Feb 02 12:00
schestowitzhttp://40.media.tumblr.com/95c06ebbb5d3cb40cc1bd202e7baacf3/tumblr_nf5umf30201qkml81o1_500.jpgFeb 02 12:00
cubexyzmsb_, quite often that's not the caseFeb 02 12:02
cubexyzI've seen many examples of video cards that were damaged by excess heatFeb 02 12:02
msb_cubexyz: other than self-referential pointer loops?Feb 02 12:02
cubexyzit's just physics, laptops keep getting fasterFeb 02 12:03
cubexyzall that heat in a small enclosed spaceFeb 02 12:03
msb_Maybe just insufficient ventilation, cat dust, or overclocking.Feb 02 12:03
msb_All components should have minimal ventilation specs at various temperatures, and if these are obeyed, and the thing isn't overclocked, all should be well.Feb 02 12:04
msb_And you have to blow out the dust when it accumulates.Feb 02 12:05
cubexyzand here's another wrinkle... some motherboards are more prone to dust in the memory sockets due to electro-static attractionFeb 02 12:07
cubexyzit doesn't always happenFeb 02 12:07
msb_maybe motherboards in the vicinity of cats!Feb 02 12:07
cubexyzdidn't old style computer rooms have air filtering systems?Feb 02 12:08
msb_They give off this gray dust, which is flakes of saliva from licking their fur.Feb 02 12:08
msb_I don't remember that, just air conditioning.Feb 02 12:09
msb_The PDP-6, then -10 that I worked around had a full-time technician.Feb 02 12:10
cubexyzok, the -10 had a temperature gauge if I remember rightFeb 02 12:10
msb_My old AMD Feb 02 12:10
msb_CPU does too!Feb 02 12:11
msb_In fact, 3 of them, and the Feb 02 12:11
msb_Sys Mon program reads them out in a graph.Feb 02 12:11
msb_You really have to know at least a little about physics and engineering to use high-tech equipment without killing it.Feb 02 12:12
cubexyzsome of the IBM mainframes definitely had air filtration systemsFeb 02 12:13
msb_The heat sink fins on my cpu cooler were too close together to blow the dust out, so I spent $20 and got a bigger one with better fins.Feb 02 12:14
cubexyzmechanical and electrostatic air cleanersFeb 02 12:14
msb_That sure makes sense.  IBM mainframes are expensiveFeb 02 12:14
cubexyzthey boost 85 to 90 percent efficiency at any given air velocityFeb 02 12:15
cubexyzmsb_, I'd love to buy a mainframe... but it's a waste of cash in my caseFeb 02 12:15
msb_the air cleaners?Feb 02 12:15
cubexyzs/boost/boast/Feb 02 12:15
cubexyzmsb_, yeahFeb 02 12:15
cubexyzI'm just reading the IBM literatureFeb 02 12:16
msb_Heck, you _have_ a mainframe.  It's just printed on a single chip.Feb 02 12:16
cubexyzI figured if anyone had a good system it would be IBMFeb 02 12:16
msb_We all do.Feb 02 12:16
cubexyzmainframe implies more than simply computing powerFeb 02 12:17
cubexyzthere's also high redundancy, air filtering, etc etcFeb 02 12:17
cubexyzair conditioning...Feb 02 12:17
cubexyzalso salt air is a factorFeb 02 12:18
cubexyzmsb_, I don't think any of my customers actually clean their computersFeb 02 12:18
msb_And physically large hardware chassis to convince the buyers it's worth a huge price.Feb 02 12:18
cubexyzand the silly thing is, I think IBM just tosses mainframes after a certain number of yearsFeb 02 12:19
msb_I have these "eraser sticks" that have a 4" long core of eraser and a clicker that makes more protrude when it gets used up.Feb 02 12:19
cubexyzthat's what they did in the old days, 10 years then dump itFeb 02 12:20
msb_Remove the eraser core and the clicker apparatus and you have a great plastic tube for making a high-speed stream of air by blowing into it, for blowing the dust out of heatsinks and fans.Feb 02 12:21
cubexyzno one thinks to clean the inside of their CRT eitherFeb 02 12:21
cubexyznot the tube itself, just the chassissFeb 02 12:21
msb_Hopefully the LED/LCD ones attract much less dust than old CRTs.Feb 02 12:22
msb_Having no high voltage.Feb 02 12:22
msb_But I'll bet _you_ have vacuum-bottle CRTs!Feb 02 12:23
msb_...on some of your machines.Feb 02 12:23
cubexyzyes, flat panel LCDs attract less dustFeb 02 12:23
msb_Leakage from dust, especially carbon dust from car exhausts, used to cause lots of failures on CRT TVs.Feb 02 12:24
cubexyzit's an open question whether or not LCDs could outlast CRTs thoughFeb 02 12:25
msb_You could wipe huge amounts of black soot from the CRT.Feb 02 12:25
cubexyzI've seen a CRT last 30+ yearsFeb 02 12:25
msb_and get zapped good if you weren't carefulFeb 02 12:25
cubexyzsure, it could kill a personFeb 02 12:25
msb_But they get dim.Feb 02 12:26
cubexyzLCDs will get dimmer as wellFeb 02 12:26
cubexyzagain, not sure which one is better in that regardFeb 02 12:26
msb_At least LCDs are much much lighter in weight.Feb 02 12:27
cubexyzwell, they don't make CRTs any more I don't thinkFeb 02 12:27
msb_All that vacuum used to weigh a ton!Feb 02 12:27
cubexyzI have 5 CRTs stillFeb 02 12:27
msb_Now there's something we could make ourselves after the apocalypse, but no way could we make LCD screens.Feb 02 12:28
cubexyzI think someone has done itFeb 02 12:30
cubexyzSnO2 coating on glass Feb 02 12:30
msb_Doesn't each pixel have a mosfet at the pixel these days?Feb 02 12:31
msb_In any case it certainly has a droplet of liquid crystal, and the Feb 02 12:32
msb_SnO2 strips would have to be photolithographed on there.Feb 02 12:33
cubexyzor you could just fix up an ASR33 :)Feb 02 12:34
cubexyzthat's merely electro-mechanicalFeb 02 12:34
msb_And driven by strips of Feb 02 12:34
msb_FETs along the sides.Feb 02 12:34
msb_Yeah but it's hard to watch movies on.Feb 02 12:34
msb_Oh well, there's always smoke some cannabis, lay back and listen to the sound.  Make your own pictures.Feb 02 12:35
cubexyzwell, you were talking post-apocalypse, so I was thinking fixing an old teletype would be a lot easier than re-inventing a modern LCD Feb 02 12:35
msb_True.Feb 02 12:36
msb_Finding an old teletype might be tough.Feb 02 12:36
cubexyzthere's always hoarders of that stuffFeb 02 12:36
cubexyzassuming the apocalypse doesn't destroy all existing technology, a fair bet, you could just salvage some old LCDFeb 02 12:38
cubexyzrebuilding everything from stratch would be toughFeb 02 12:38
msb_If all this comes to pass, we will sure wish we had arrested, tried, and imprisoned the organized fascist psychopaths when we had the chance.Feb 02 12:39
cubexyzI heard talk like that in the 80'sFeb 02 12:39
cubexyzso far so good :)Feb 02 12:40
msb_Now all we have to worry about is, if it doesn't work with Linux will the store take it back.Feb 02 12:40
cubexyzonce you go beyond 20 years, parts becomes a problemFeb 02 12:41
cubexyzmaybe even less than thatFeb 02 12:41
cubexyzall you can do is hoard partsFeb 02 12:41
cubexyzwhich is what some associates of mine doFeb 02 12:41
msb_Yes.  But we don't know how crazy, even suicidal, the psychopaths are.Feb 02 12:41
msb_Did you watch that episode "Quarantine"?Feb 02 12:42
cubexyzI think I'd rather use the term "short sighted" or "wasteful" before I'd use the term psychopathFeb 02 12:42
msb_When they murder two million people, they are psychopaths.Feb 02 12:43
cubexyzreferring to your earlier point, I don't think anyone I know has cleaned their laptopFeb 02 12:44
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msb_Well, if they have a cat they're gonna have trouble.  The cat sitting on it probably doesn't do it any good either.Feb 02 12:46
*amarsh04 is still looking for a replacement for his partially fried Telebit Fastblazer 8840 with Australian-specific firmware and line interfaceFeb 02 12:47
amarsh04I'll accept a Motorola Codex 3266Feb 02 12:47
amarsh04dial-up/leased line modems with lcd display and front panel controlsFeb 02 12:48
msb_ebay?Feb 02 12:48
msb_Whatever Oz has that's like ebay?Feb 02 12:50
msb_Amazon?Feb 02 12:50
msb_amarsh04: why not a new one?  too expensive?Feb 02 12:52
msb_Watch for reports of people who have died from poisonous spiders, snakes,scorpions, Feb 02 12:56
msb_Tasmanian Devils, etc, whose relatives are selling their computer gear.Feb 02 12:57
msb_Just kidding about TDs.  They are not dangerous to humans and are being protected from extinction.Feb 02 13:10
msb_"For the 2.6.29 release of the Linux kernel, Linus Torvalds temporarily replaced the Tux mascot with a Tasmanian devil named Tuz, in support of the Save the Tasmanian Devil Campaign."Feb 02 13:11
msb_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasmanian_devilFeb 02 13:11
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msb_Poor little creatures.  Unaffectionate, smelly, and being killed off by a contagious cancer.Feb 02 13:13
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amarsh04msb_ no longer made afaikFeb 02 13:17
msb_amarsh04: Feb 02 13:17
amarsh04there are Tasmanian devils at Cleland wildlife park near where I live in South AustraliaFeb 02 13:17
msb_So how does your service provider expect it to be utilized.Feb 02 13:17
msb_That's good!  Can you see them?Feb 02 13:18
amarsh04yes, one can see themFeb 02 13:18
amarsh04I use the dial-up modem as a backup for when the local DSLAM failsFeb 02 13:19
amarsh04also it's one of the few places where one can hold a koalaFeb 02 13:19
msb_That sounds like a missile.Feb 02 13:19
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amarsh04DSLAM = host-side equipment for an ADSL serviceFeb 02 13:20
cubexyzdigital subscriber line access multiplexer Feb 02 13:20
amarsh04itsFeb 02 13:20
amarsh04sorry it's = it is was correctFeb 02 13:20
msb_Do koalas like to be held?Feb 02 13:21
msb_or petted?Feb 02 13:21
amarsh04I've picked up a wild one onceFeb 02 13:21
cubexyzI doubt it :)Feb 02 13:21
amarsh04but the ones at Cleland are specifically hand-raised and tamedFeb 02 13:22
amarsh04they like posing for photos thoughFeb 02 13:22
cubexyzI like the idea of having two ISPsFeb 02 13:25
cubexyzexcept for the cost factorFeb 02 13:25
msb_My  phone service is VOIP via my ISP.  Feb 02 13:27
msb_The ISP goes down periodically, but, hey, I can't complain!  Feb 02 13:27
msb_Some of the techs are idiots, and knock out my service when they're installing a new customer.Feb 02 13:28
msb_I've had at least two modems crap out too.Feb 02 13:29
cubexyzI have redundant modems + redundant power suppliesFeb 02 13:30
msb_And even dual brain lobes!Feb 02 13:31
cubexyzbut it's usually the wall wart that fails, unless you have a DC distribution panelFeb 02 13:31
cubexyzcheap wall warts have crap windings Feb 02 13:32
msb_That's capitalism for you!  Feb 02 13:33
cubexyzone of the routers is over 10 years oldFeb 02 13:34
msb_You should get them from Russia.  The size of refrigerators, but they last forever.Feb 02 13:34
msb_And fallout-proof too.Feb 02 13:34
msb_I wonder if homes will eventually have low-voltage DC distribution for flicker-free LED lighting.Feb 02 13:37
cubexyzit's not hard to improve on the existing techFeb 02 13:39
msb_They have no persistence, so flicker pretty badly even with fullwave rectified 60Hz.Feb 02 13:39
msb_It is if you want to use cold fusion and antimatter!Feb 02 13:40
msb_But seriously, you have to have a lot of LEDs in series in each bulb, and big capacitors, or a high-frequency power supply in there with smaller capacitors.Feb 02 13:42
msb_Or, just 10 volts running around your house and a central power supply.Feb 02 13:43
msb_10 VDCFeb 02 13:43
msb_When incandescent bulbs were being made illegal in the US, I was giving this a certain amount of thought.Feb 02 13:44
cubexyzare they really iilegal or did they just stop making them?Feb 02 13:44
msb_I hate fluorescents, probably due to the flicker.Feb 02 13:45
msb_The illegality was rescinded.Feb 02 13:45
cubexyzmust be tons of them still in useFeb 02 13:46
cubexyzand there's heat lampsFeb 02 13:46
DaemonFC`The law was not revoked. The funding to enforce it was removed.Feb 02 13:46
msb_The best that I and another EE could come up with was to buy LED bulbs with zillions of LEDs in each, and re-wire them to use distributed DC.Feb 02 13:46
DaemonFC`It's a shame too.Feb 02 13:46
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msb_DaemonFC`: what's a shame?Feb 02 13:47
cubexyzsome of the wall warts rated for medical use have a MTBF of 300K hoursFeb 02 13:47
cubexyzcan't have medical equipment pooping out as often :)Feb 02 13:48
msb_Most real warts don't last that long.Feb 02 13:48
cubexyzthat's like 30 yearsFeb 02 13:49
cubexyzjust colour code everything based on reliabilityFeb 02 13:50
cubexyzmake the really cheap ones a brown colour :)Feb 02 13:50
cubexyzthe expensive ones can be gold colourFeb 02 13:50
cubexyzmsb_, the design of the wall wart is kind of crap anywaysFeb 02 13:52
cubexyztiny barrel connector, and subject to axial and radial forces via the connectorFeb 02 13:52
msb_Are they high-frequency power supplies now to avoid a big 60Hz transformer?Feb 02 13:53
cubexyzwhat, you mean like go back to the Edison method?Feb 02 13:54
cubexyzthere was some talking about thatFeb 02 13:55
msb_You mean the Tesla method?Feb 02 13:55
cubexyzno, there was talk of some method of long distance transmission of DC powerFeb 02 13:55
cubexyzI guess it never worked rightFeb 02 13:56
msb_Seems like there shouldn't be much actual loss from reactance with AC, and the same loss from resistance.Feb 02 13:57
msb_But IIRC, in PC power supplies, the 120Feb 02 13:58
cubexyzHVDC I think it was calledFeb 02 13:59
cubexyzhigh voltage direct currentFeb 02 13:59
msb_VAC is rectified and fed to modest-size capacitors, with a lot of ripple, and that feeds a power oscillator at 50KHz or so.Feb 02 13:59
msb_Which feeds a physically much smaller stepdown transformer, rectifier, and much smaller capacitors.Feb 02 14:00
msb_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_currentFeb 02 14:02
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cubexyzI think it's still easier to go AC for power transmission thoughFeb 02 14:03
cubexyzexcept inside the home there should really be some kind of DC distribution panelFeb 02 14:04
msb_This was used by Ming the Merciless on Mongo:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-voltage_direct_current#mediaviewer/File:Mercury_Arc_Valve,_Radisson_Converter_Station,_Gillam_MB.jpgFeb 02 14:05
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msb_HVDC is complicated!Feb 02 14:10
msb_It has an advantage that I didn't think of.  You can connect two  power systems without regard to phase, so in emergencies instability and damage may be avoided that would occur with AC.Feb 02 14:11
amarsh04there is an interconnector in Australia between two AC systems hundreds of kilometres apart that uses high voltage DC Feb 02 14:47
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DaemonFC``Ryan FarmerFeb 02 16:48
DaemonFC``Just now · Feb 02 16:48
DaemonFC``Correction: It puts their speed trap revenue that funds bloated police budgets in danger.Feb 02 16:48
DaemonFC``http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/02/02/can-smartphone-app-used-track-police/22696299/Feb 02 16:48
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DaemonFC``Ryan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 02 16:53
DaemonFC``Just now · Feb 02 16:53
DaemonFC``Governor Mike Pence plans to take the stupid incompetent ****wad that mismanaged the BMV and took millions of dollars in overcharges from Indiana residents and move him to head the Family and Social Services Administration.Feb 02 16:53
DaemonFC``Gee, and just in time for HIP 2.0 to roll out. What could possibly go wrong?Feb 02 16:53
DaemonFC``http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2015/02/02/gov-pence-announce-new-bmv-chief-overcharges/22744003/?fb_action_ids=311143375762367&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 02 16:53
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DaemonFC``Ryan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 02 16:57
DaemonFC``Just now · Feb 02 16:57
DaemonFC``Ba da da da da! Ailing Vomit!Feb 02 16:57
DaemonFC``http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/02/01/mcdonalds-drink-focus-muncie-teens-lawsuit/22696595/?fb_action_ids=311144352428936&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 02 16:57
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DaemonFC``Ryan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 02 17:03
DaemonFC``1 min · Feb 02 17:03
DaemonFC``The one where McDonalds paid $9 million for a 1 minute ad while telling their employees to get on food stamps and Medicaid, and to remember to keep the heat turned off in the winter, and sell all the Christmas presents on eBay.Feb 02 17:03
DaemonFC``http://www.indystar.com/story/money/2015/01/28/super-bowl-ads-2015-whats-your-favorite/22465511/?fb_action_ids=311145395762165&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 02 17:03
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Sosumihttp://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/02/02/1326225/microsoft-announces-windows-for-raspberry-pi-2?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitterFeb 02 17:12
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Sosumicancer spreading metastasis Feb 02 17:13
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DaemonFCRyan FarmerFeb 02 17:30
DaemonFCJust now · Edited · Feb 02 17:30
DaemonFCIsn't Governor Fatass the one that screamed that the nurse who didn't have Ebola wasn't being quarantined?Feb 02 17:30
DaemonFChttp://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/02/02/3617933/obama-vaccinate-kids/Feb 02 17:30
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msb_.Feb 02 17:56
MinceRhttps://41.media.tumblr.com/386c96a30b1bc8746d9b4543f8b7735d/tumblr_nj5mxh4CGI1r70ailo1_1280.jpgFeb 02 18:35
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/562331274908426240Feb 02 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz i keep blocking those accounts by the dozen every day :(Feb 02 19:28
XFaCEschestowitz: cyanogen, the latest touched by a microsoftFeb 02 19:42
XFaCEwowFeb 02 19:42
XFaCEschestowitz: you'd think that the fates of the companies that worked with microsoft would provide a clue as to appropriate course of actionFeb 02 19:44
MinceRmaybe most people are immune to clueFeb 02 19:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wolff_ernst/status/562337476636078081Feb 02 19:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wolff_ernst: @schestowitz What Lagarde and her likes do when not praising dictators: http://t.co/J3EI5T2x6MFeb 02 19:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wolff_ernst: @schestowitz What Lagarde and her likes do when not praising dictators: http://t.co/J3EI5T2x6MFeb 02 19:54
schestowitzXFaCE: they're finishedFeb 02 19:55
MinceRpraising dictators is so popular nowadaysFeb 02 19:58
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/562344929888718848Feb 02 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Will people still trust the Pi after the blow that it will be Windows compatible?Feb 02 20:22
schestowitzI'd like to know how much moneyflow came from Microsoft and proxies like "MS Open Technologies" to #raspi FoundationFeb 02 20:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/562344929888718848Feb 02 20:23
DaemonFC`MinceR, You mean strong leaders. ;)Feb 02 20:23
MinceRoh, rightFeb 02 20:24
XRevan86leaders of strongFeb 02 20:25
MinceRhttps://38.media.tumblr.com/91bbcb62a032f2ac3edc8cc076cf125b/tumblr_nj5l711XoB1txul28o1_540.gifFeb 02 20:26
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5496810Feb 02 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@darth_azrael@diasp.org: #2ndAmendmentFeb 02 21:45
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schestowitz"So? Just as there is a legitimate use for cars there are legitimate uses for guns. Both can be used intentionally or unintentionally to kill people."Feb 02 21:45
schestowitzThat makes no sense. Cars are killing people usually by accident, unlike guns.Feb 02 21:46
MinceRand guns transport people mostly by accident, unlike carsFeb 02 21:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5522951Feb 02 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #lennux is a disease in #linux http://www.linux-magazin.de/NEWS/FOSDEM-2015-Microsoft-und-die-NSA-rauskicken-Poettering-will-UEFI-in-Systemd #uefi #microsoftFeb 02 21:47
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schestowitz"boot protection does make sense in some scenarios though, wondering if there could one day be a "free" alternative to #UEFI"Feb 02 21:47
schestowitzMinceR: LOLFeb 02 21:47
schestowitzThese people are like theistsFeb 02 21:47
schestowitzregarding gun proliferationFeb 02 21:47
MinceRif you say soFeb 02 21:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/znmeb/status/562366075946270720Feb 02 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@znmeb: @FrancisJeffrey7 @schestowitz Yahoo found this one - http://t.co/KpcpMkJtzQFeb 02 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | U.S. Department of the Interior ends up going Google for hosted e-mail | ZDNetFeb 02 21:47
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/562365977032007680Feb 02 21:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @znmeb @schestowitz Thanks, guess we'll have to search for that in Google...or Bing?Feb 02 21:47
schestowitzyahoo is Microsoft in the USFeb 02 21:48
MinceRalso, guns rarely kill peopleFeb 02 21:48
MinceRbullets do so much more oftenFeb 02 21:48
schestowitzlike separating the launchers in RPG from shellsFeb 02 21:49
XRevan86I wonder what scenarios require boot "protection".Feb 02 21:49
schestowitzAsk GCHQ :-)Feb 02 21:49
schestowitzCESG...Feb 02 21:49
schestowitzThey care about restricting their own staffFeb 02 21:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5522861Feb 02 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Raspberry Pi gets quad-core SoC, keeps $35 price http://linuxgizmos.com/raspberry-pi-gets-quad-core-soc-keeps-same-price/ #linux #raspiFeb 02 21:51
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schestowitz"Wo kann ich das Ding kaufen? Wer ist Raspberry Foundation Partner?"Feb 02 21:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/osrin/status/562367441440108544Feb 02 21:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@osrin: @schestowitz @Messgorough it's good there are strong anti Microsoft skeptics still. Anybody trying to bring change from within needs you!Feb 02 21:51
schestowitzChange from within rarely works. It gets expelled. See EPO, NSA, etc.Feb 02 21:52
XRevan86schestowitz: I don't see why their problems with self-misering restrictions should affect my PC.Feb 02 21:52
schestowitzyeahFeb 02 21:52
schestowitzbutFeb 02 21:52
XRevan86Also BIOS's have a password protections.Feb 02 21:52
schestowitzthey get more control over your PCFeb 02 21:53
XRevan86tr Feb 02 21:53
XRevan86s/a //Feb 02 21:53
schestowitzGerman banned UEFI secure bootFeb 02 21:53
schestowitzit can be used to remotely brick HARDWAREFeb 02 21:53
schestowitzIt gives the vendor, e.g. Microsoft, a lot of powerFeb 02 21:53
XRevan86schestowitz: Remotely?Feb 02 21:53
schestowitzand using cooperation with spy agencies you get Stuxnet etc.Feb 02 21:53
schestowitzXRevan86: yes, remote updatesFeb 02 21:53
schestowitz!google nsa bios chinaFeb 02 21:54
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - NSA Says Foiled BIOS Cyber Plot - Business Insider | http://www.businessinsider.com/nsa-says-foiled-china-cyber-plot-2013-12Feb 02 21:54
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - NSA, Not China, the Global BIOS Suicide Cyber-Bomber | emptywheel | https://www.emptywheel.net/2013/12/29/nsa-not-china-the-global-suicide-bomber/Feb 02 21:54
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Errata Security: How we know the 60 Minutes NSA interview was crap | http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/12/how-we-know-60-minutes-nsa-interview.htmlFeb 02 21:54
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - '60 Minutes' BIOS Plot May Be NSA Invention – Tom's Guide | http://www.tomsguide.com/us/60-minutes-bios-plot-nsa,news-17988.htmlFeb 02 21:54
schestowitz!google uefi brick hardwareFeb 02 21:54
XRevan86schestowitz: BIOS can't be updated remotely unless via some magick tool.Feb 02 21:54
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Hardware neutrality: UEFI strikes again and again - TechRepublic | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/hardware-neutrality-uefi-strikes-again-and-again/Feb 02 21:54
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - NSA Confirms Remote Computer Bricking by BIOS (or UEFI) as a ... | http://techrights.org/2013/12/16/boot-process-threat/Feb 02 21:54
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - If You Use Microsoft Windows, the NSA Can Brick Your Computer ... | http://techrights.org/2013/06/24/nsa-and-uefi/Feb 02 21:54
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Why Samsung Hardware With UEFI Boot Gets Bricked by Linux ... | http://techrights.org/2013/03/24/not-bricked-by-linux/Feb 02 21:54
XRevan86schestowitz: Either via backdoors which are natural to proprietary software with or without SecureBoot or a bug in Phoenix awful BIOS.Feb 02 21:55
XRevan86schestowitz: I believe SecureBoot gives a lot of problems (restriction of hardware, even enforced on ARM's) but remote bricking via it? Nah…Feb 02 21:57
XRevan86schestowitz: I know you were considering GNU social. Have you considered?Feb 02 21:59
XRevan86to a conclusionFeb 02 21:59
XRevan86By the way: who needs remote control with UEFI if that exists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_vPro#Remote_managementFeb 02 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Intel vPro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jmgaf ]Feb 02 22:01
MinceRwhat happens to uefi-infested products in germany?Feb 02 22:05
XRevan86I guess SecureBoot is disabled by default there.Feb 02 22:05
MinceRcan a running OS enable/disable RestrictedBoot?Feb 02 22:06
XRevan86MinceR: It would be pointless if it could :)Feb 02 22:06
XRevan86(not restricted at all)Feb 02 22:06
MinceRit's still mostly pointlessFeb 02 22:07
XRevan86MinceR: Yeah. Still, I mean the concept that it serves.Feb 02 22:07
XRevan86Design purpose, shall I say.Feb 02 22:08
XRevan86But in the same time, if an OS is already booted with an enabled SecureBoot, it's already trusted so it's 'secure' to allow it to disable itFeb 02 22:09
XRevan86but in the same time VIRUSES are not trusted so it's not 'secure'Feb 02 22:10
msb_MinceR: How do you feel about people having guns?  (Since your country has a nasty government that could get worse.)Feb 02 22:11
MinceRmsb_: depends on who it is and what they use it forFeb 02 22:12
msb_It's anyone who wants one.  And what they use it for is what presumably sensible people use it for.Feb 02 22:14
MinceRsounds good to meFeb 02 22:14
XRevan86> TRIdenticaFeb 02 22:14
XRevan86what a strange nameFeb 02 22:14
msb_In the US, "liberals" think people should not have guns.  They trust the govt.Feb 02 22:15
XRevan86especially for a Twitter(-compatible API) botFeb 02 22:15
MinceRit would be more liberal to allow people to have gunsFeb 02 22:16
msb_That's what I think.Feb 02 22:16
MinceRthen again, in us, they use 'social liberalism' in place of classical liberalismFeb 02 22:17
MinceRafaikFeb 02 22:17
XRevan86MinceR: What does that even mean?Feb 02 22:17
XRevan86are liberals socialists now?Feb 02 22:18
msb_Nope.Feb 02 22:18
msb_If only...Feb 02 22:18
MinceRXRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalismFeb 02 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Social liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jmgfj ]Feb 02 22:19
XRevan86They've ruined "liberty" term now they're talking "social"Feb 02 22:19
MinceRXRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalismFeb 02 22:19
XRevan86taking*Feb 02 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jmgfl ]Feb 02 22:19
MinceRothers ruined 'social' long agoFeb 02 22:19
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/osrin/status/562374322892075011Feb 02 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@osrin: @schestowitz @Messgorough I'm a Lancashire lad at heart, it was time to head home.Feb 02 22:20
XRevan86MinceR: What do you mean?Feb 02 22:20
msb_MinceR lives in Hungary and thinks that all socialism is evil.Feb 02 22:21
MinceRthey were so successful that msb_ believes the USSR was good.Feb 02 22:21
XRevan86MinceR: Guess what country I live in :DFeb 02 22:22
MinceR(and that they're still good, even after their rebranding and rearranging of deck chairs)Feb 02 22:22
MinceRXRevan86: putinistan?Feb 02 22:22
XRevan86MinceR: Indeedy.Feb 02 22:22
*MinceR is stuck in orbanistan, for nowFeb 02 22:22
msb_I think it can be good if it's truly democratic at all levels, and if one distinguishes between huge private property for the rich (bad) and modest private property for the non-rich.Feb 02 22:23
MinceRpity it never was democratic at allFeb 02 22:23
msb_MinceR constantly lies about me.  I have never said that the USSR was even mostly good.Feb 02 22:24
MinceRonly democratic to the extent Ankh-Morpork isFeb 02 22:24
MinceRmsb_: you're the biggest fan of putler on this channelFeb 02 22:24
MinceR"the political system of Ankh-Morpork is described as "One Man, One Vote," in which Vetinari alone is the Man, and he has the Vote."Feb 02 22:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/56237507023275213Feb 02 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sorry, that page does not existFeb 02 22:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/osrin/status/562375479098085376Feb 02 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@osrin: @Messgorough @schestowitz there are people in every corporation who think the same way.Feb 02 22:25
XRevan86Putin and USSR… how do they relate?Feb 02 22:25
msb_MinceR: You are lying about me again.Feb 02 22:25
MinceRXRevan86: putin was the leader of the kgb in the ussrFeb 02 22:25
msb_I've said that it's good that Russia is opposing world fascism led by the US.Feb 02 22:25
MinceRnow he's the dictator and symbols have been replaced to some extentFeb 02 22:25
XRevan86MinceR: The leader?Feb 02 22:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/562375070232752130Feb 02 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @osrin @schestowitz My motivations for supporting FOSS and many green ideals. People before profit style is the best way imo.Feb 02 22:26
msb_XRevan86: What is politics like in Russia today?  Are there true democratic elections?Feb 02 22:26
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/562376400775024642Feb 02 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @osrin @schestowitz But this is why I am so afraid (in a sense of the word) that MS means ill towards @Raspberry_PiFeb 02 22:26
XRevan86msb_: Nope.Feb 02 22:26
MinceRsorry, apparently he was an officerFeb 02 22:26
XRevan86msb_: It sucks.Feb 02 22:26
MinceRXRevan86: how do they cheat at the elections nowadays?Feb 02 22:27
MinceRi know the old commie trick was simply not allowing the opposition to runFeb 02 22:27
MinceRat least here in hungaryFeb 02 22:27
XRevan86MinceR: I can only tell about elections into parlament in 2011Feb 02 22:28
XRevan86Elections of the president after were apparently clean.Feb 02 22:29
msb_How about the choice of members of parliament?  Feb 02 22:30
XRevan86msb_: A LOT of cheating.Feb 02 22:30
msb_What candidates can run, and how are elections?Feb 02 22:30
msb_damnFeb 02 22:30
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Churov this thread in unfairly shortFeb 02 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Vladimir Churov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jmgit ]Feb 02 22:30
msb_In the US I don't think there's much cheating in the actual voting, but the candidates are chosen by money, the parties are corrupt, and the media are run by the wealthy.Feb 02 22:31
MinceRin the us it's mostly that the citizens ignore all parties except the biggest twoFeb 02 22:32
XRevan86msb_: Well, in Gov. Duma (Lower Chamber of the parliament) I know CPRF chooses candidates mostly for worthness (even from worker class).Feb 02 22:33
msb_Correct.Feb 02 22:33
msb_XRevan86: That sounds good.Feb 02 22:34
schestowitz[22:04] <XRevan86> schestowitz: I know you were considering GNU social. Have you considered?Feb 02 22:34
XRevan86(Upper Chamber is not electable, it's called Council (Soviet :D) of the Federation)Feb 02 22:34
schestowitzXRevan86: there are issuesFeb 02 22:34
schestowitzimporting dataFeb 02 22:34
schestowitzb/c Evan has not sent me my dataFeb 02 22:34
XRevan86schestowitz: It's not possible so why bother?Feb 02 22:34
XRevan86msb_: But CPRF is a unter party.Feb 02 22:35
XRevan86msb_: The is only one party of power: United Russia (or something like that)Feb 02 22:35
msb_unter = minority?Feb 02 22:35
XRevan86msb_: Not minority, just not without real powerFeb 02 22:35
XRevan86just without*Feb 02 22:36
msb_That's what I meant.Feb 02 22:36
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Russia Yeah, I've translated correctly.Feb 02 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | United Russia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jmgka ]Feb 02 22:36
msb_How are upper chamber members chosen?Feb 02 22:36
XRevan86msb_: By the president.Feb 02 22:36
msb_Yikes!Feb 02 22:37
schestowitzsounds like a rebrandFeb 02 22:37
schestowitzUSRFeb 02 22:37
schestowitz /usrFeb 02 22:37
XRevan86schestowitz: Don't offend USSR.Feb 02 22:37
msb_They should just put a crown on him and stop pretending.Feb 02 22:37
schestowitzNo, joking about USSAFeb 02 22:38
MinceRit worked for microsoft!Feb 02 22:38
MinceRright?Feb 02 22:38
schestowitzMicrosoft Open technilogiesFeb 02 22:38
schestowitzIt's another companyFeb 02 22:38
schestowitzSeriouslyFeb 02 22:38
schestowitzLook, new nameFeb 02 22:38
schestowitzand it's benevolent!Feb 02 22:38
MinceRmostly same as the old nameFeb 02 22:38
schestowitzHilter AdolphoFeb 02 22:38
MinceRapparently they've exhausted their renaming capacity :>Feb 02 22:38
MinceRMr HilterFeb 02 22:39
schestowitzMicrosoft, Live, MSN, BingFeb 02 22:39
MinceRand Beimrich BimmlerFeb 02 22:39
schestowitzSatya ballmerFeb 02 22:39
schestowitzHe just needs to keep his tongue inside his mouthFeb 02 22:39
schestowitz!google ballmer dances fergieFeb 02 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Ballmer Dances To Fergie - ESPN Video - ESPN | http://espn.go.com/video/clip%3Fid%3D12135620Feb 02 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - Los Angeles Clippers owner Steve Ballmer dances to Fergie - SI.com | http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/01/07/los-angeles-clippers-steve-ballmer-fergie-danceFeb 02 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Steve Ballmer Dances Amazingly to Fergie at L.A. Clippers Game ... | http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/steve-ballmer-dances-amazingly-to-fergie-at-la-clippers-game-watch-201581Feb 02 22:39
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Los Angeles Clippers owner Steve Ballmer dances to Fergie | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2902099/Los-Angeles-Clippers-owner-Steve-Ballmer-shows-crazy-sideline-dance-moves-Fergie-performance.htmlFeb 02 22:39
schestowitzoh, my eyes!Feb 02 22:39
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKgHUrKZiXAFeb 02 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Monty Python's Flying Circus: Mr. Hilter - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jmgle ]Feb 02 22:40
XRevan86msb_: I think the major reason of why people (in Russia, of course) like Putin so much is because Russians are tired of changes from bad to worse.Feb 02 22:42
MinceRso they really like him there?Feb 02 22:43
XRevan86MinceR: That is true.Feb 02 22:43
MinceRjust like hungarians and their orbanFeb 02 22:43
XRevan86msb_: First there was Gorbachev who ruined USSR's economy, then Yeltsin who destroyed it completely and created a monster on ruines.Feb 02 22:44
msb_Forgive me:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6rqXHX3O48Feb 02 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Young FrankenSteve - YouTubeFeb 02 22:45
msb_Yeltsin was trained by US fascists.Feb 02 22:45
XRevan86msb_: It doesn't really matter.Feb 02 22:46
msb_XRevan86: Feb 02 22:48
msb_The  past can't be changed, but we should know it.Feb 02 22:48
XRevan86msb_: Gorbachev practically gave the country to him.Feb 02 22:49
msb_Capitalist nations invaded USSR right after the revolution and murdered millions.Feb 02 22:49
MinceRXRevan86: no elections?Feb 02 22:49
XRevan86MinceR: There was two electionsFeb 02 22:49
XRevan86MinceR: 1. referendum on whether USSR should stop existingFeb 02 22:50
XRevan86Population's majority voted "no" to USSR demolitionFeb 02 22:50
msb_Then US wealthy gave Hitler 75% of the money for WWII military.  Nazis invaded USSR and murdered 20 million.Feb 02 22:50
MinceRhttps://encyclopediadramatica.se/High_Score#Sid_Meier.27s_CivilizationFeb 02 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-encyclopediadramatica.se | High Score - Encyclopedia Dramatica [ http://ur1.ca/jmgo9 ]Feb 02 22:51
XRevan862. Elections in 1996 where by cheating and Zyuganov blackmail Yeltsin was reelectedFeb 02 22:51
msb_These attacks caused USSR govt, especially Stalin, to do psychopath behavior, and caused  people to give up freedom and accept dictatorship.Feb 02 22:52
XRevan86(after that people lost faith in Zyuganov because the accepted Yeltsin's victory instead of trying to proove he is the legit president by elections)Feb 02 22:52
msb_After that, US attacked every socialist nation that it could (mostly little weak ones).Feb 02 22:53
XRevan86msb_: Yeah, close enough.Feb 02 22:54
XRevan86but not quite (about Stalin)Feb 02 22:54
msb_US and some other capitalist nations are run by the wealthy, so they attack socialism because it would destroy their profits.Feb 02 22:54
XRevan86but that's a very hard topic so I need to find something to eat first :)Feb 02 22:55
msb_ok.  Great to hear from someone who knows!Feb 02 22:55
MinceRgnFeb 02 22:56
XRevan86MinceR: gnFeb 02 22:57
XRevan86msb_: No, really, Stalin is very hard to judge.Feb 02 22:58
msb_Didn't he starve a lot of Ukrainians to death or something?Feb 02 22:59
XRevan86msb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932–33Feb 02 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Soviet famine of 1932–33 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jmgpx ]Feb 02 22:59
XRevan86msb_: Ukrainian government of Ushenko times wanted to show that as a nazism situation but… not at all.Feb 02 23:01
XRevan86instead that's a major frakup in economicsFeb 02 23:01
XRevan86I just realized I never considered people losses in industrial revolution as an evil government situation.Feb 02 23:04
msb_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HolodomorFeb 02 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Holodomor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 02 23:04
XRevan86msb_: That's the same topic only Ukraine-centric.Feb 02 23:05
XRevan86> genocideFeb 02 23:06
XRevan86Oh myFeb 02 23:06
msb_Yes, it's linked from the famine article.Feb 02 23:07
XRevan86Did they really write "genocide"?Feb 02 23:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/osrin/status/562377528460193793  https://twitter.com/osrin/status/562377866433019904   https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/562378604625944576Feb 02 23:10
schestowitzSelf serving, but Upton would be wrong to assume it would serve him too (look at Microsoft's record with partners)Feb 02 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unexpected responseFeb 02 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@osrin: @Messgorough @schestowitz it's hard to push something new and outside of core business through without real passion.Feb 02 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @osrin @schestowitz That is something I truly hope is the case despite what they may think about my questions. @EbenUpton @Raspberry_PiFeb 02 23:10
XRevan86> In the absence of absolute documentary proof of intent, some scholars have also made the argument that the Holodomor was ultimately a consequence of the economic problems associated with radical economic changes implemented during the period of liquidation of private property and Soviet industrializationFeb 02 23:11
msb_Even without intent, it indicates that they didn't implement the changes correctly.Feb 02 23:12
XRevan86msb_: Indeed, but still, "genocide"?Feb 02 23:13
XRevan86msb_: That would be very conspirative to break economy of the whole USSR just to eliminate "Ukrainian independence movement"Feb 02 23:14
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_nationalism#Interwar_period_in_Soviet_UkraineFeb 02 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ukrainian nationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jmgtw ]Feb 02 23:15
msb_Wasn't the govt action to take food from Ukraine and give it to the rest of the USSR?Feb 02 23:15
msb_So the  purpose was not to break economy of whole USSR but to keep it going.Feb 02 23:15
msb_?Feb 02 23:16
XRevan86msb_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932–33#ProcessFeb 02 23:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Soviet famine of 1932–33 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jmguh ]Feb 02 23:17
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XRevan86msb_: Stalin is not a good person, he had very tough methods but he wasn't cruel.Feb 02 23:19
msb_He _looks_ scary.Feb 02 23:19
XRevan86msb_: Does he? o_0Feb 02 23:20
msb_He did (to me).Feb 02 23:20
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Stalin_Image.jpgFeb 02 23:20
msb_OK, not scary.Feb 02 23:22
XRevan86Point is: Stalin did what he considered best for USSR. Genocide does not fit the profile.Feb 02 23:22
XRevan86The trick in judging Stalin is that standards of what's good and what's not depend on a time period.Feb 02 23:24
XRevan86Russian Empire sucked a lot, and so Stalin had to make this into a XX century industrial country.Feb 02 23:25
msb_Paul Robeson of US apparently liked him.  I like this video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFPw5NTi1NQFeb 02 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | USSR ANTHEM IN ENGLISH - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jmgx0 ]Feb 02 23:26
XRevan86msb_: Translated anthem, videos from parade after a VictoryFeb 02 23:28
XRevan86in Great Patriotic WarFeb 02 23:29
msb_Yes.Feb 02 23:29
msb_War against Nazis?Feb 02 23:29
XRevan86msb_: YupFeb 02 23:29
XRevan861941-1945Feb 02 23:29
XRevan86English is not the best language for some words which are translated as "motherland" or "fatherland" or elseFeb 02 23:30
msb_http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_NazisFeb 02 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 02 23:31
XRevan86msb_: Not these nazis.Feb 02 23:31
msb_US financed hitler.Feb 02 23:31
XRevan86msb_: tl;drFeb 02 23:31
msb_?Feb 02 23:32
XRevan86msb_: I have something else in my knowledgebase.Feb 02 23:32
msb_Those US fascists financed Hitler's Nazis.Feb 02 23:32
XRevan86msb_: Not the only ones.Feb 02 23:32
XRevan86USSR did, too.Feb 02 23:33
msb_USSR financed Nazis???Feb 02 23:33
msb_Which were attacking USSR?Feb 02 23:33
XRevan86msb_: Before that, of course.Feb 02 23:33
msb_AhFeb 02 23:34
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_PactFeb 02 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jmgz6 ]Feb 02 23:34
XRevan86msb_: There was an economical alliance because nobody else wanted to be friends with USSR.Feb 02 23:35
msb_This is a good recent documentary about US and Nazis (and other stuff).Feb 02 23:35
msb_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNMFeb 02 23:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | JFK to 911 Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jfi6o ]Feb 02 23:35
XRevan86USSR had a justification, though.Feb 02 23:36
XRevan86(economical survival)Feb 02 23:36
XRevan86> Their goal was to have Hitler murder all the socialists, social democrats, and union leaders in the U.S.S.R. and EuropeFeb 02 23:37
XRevan86and that is just cruel, indeed.Feb 02 23:37
XRevan86s/cruel/evil/Feb 02 23:39
msb_US is still doing that -- destroyed Libya, which had the highest standard of living of any African nation.Feb 02 23:39
msb_It's all for profit.  So workers get only a little and owners get almost everything.Feb 02 23:40
XRevan86msb_: I don't even wanna know what's happening in Libya now.Feb 02 23:40
XRevan86But I think that's not where I would like to spend a holiday.Feb 02 23:40
msb_This was Libya under Qaddafi --  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6EkFeb 02 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Libya Truth (DnB Soundtrack) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jld5s ]Feb 02 23:41
XRevan86msb_: Yeah, I know it was a nice place.Feb 02 23:41
DaemonFCRyan FarmerFeb 02 23:43
DaemonFCJust now · Feb 02 23:43
DaemonFC110,000 Facebook users installed a trojan horse over the weekend while trying to get porn.Feb 02 23:43
DaemonFChttp://on.rt.com/ylffraFeb 02 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com | NO TITLEFeb 02 23:43
XRevan86msb_: Something like an african Belarus' it was.Feb 02 23:43
msb_Belarus is doing well?Feb 02 23:44
XRevan86msb_: It is.Feb 02 23:44
XRevan86msb_: It looks like a true successor of USSR.Feb 02 23:45
msb_What could Putin do to improve things?  (In addition to not throwing pussy singers in prison.)Feb 02 23:45
XRevan86msb_: What things exactly?Feb 02 23:46
msb_Russian economy and wellbeing of people.Feb 02 23:46
XRevan86msb_: Make a proper government machine.Feb 02 23:46
XRevan86I don't know how to translate "раздолбайство"Feb 02 23:47
msb_government structure?Feb 02 23:47
XRevan86msb_: "раздолбайство"? Yeah, something like that.Feb 02 23:47
XRevan86раздолбай is a person who practically can't do anything properlyFeb 02 23:49
XRevan86or doesn't do anything at allFeb 02 23:49
XRevan86and "раздолбайство" is a way of life.Feb 02 23:49
XRevan86and Russian government system.Feb 02 23:50
XRevan86msb_: Imagine a government which have a plan to move to Linux in government since, I think, 2009Feb 02 23:51
XRevan86and that's what was done since then: several worthless Linux distros for millions of dollarsFeb 02 23:51
XRevan86Corruption, lack of desire to work.Feb 02 23:52
msb_In Russia?  I would think Debian would have a Russian translation.Feb 02 23:52
XRevan86msb_: Maybe you heard about ALT LinuxFeb 02 23:52
msb_noFeb 02 23:53
XRevan86msb_: Exactly.Feb 02 23:53
schestowitz[23:25] <XRevan86> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Stalin_Image.jpgFeb 02 23:54
schestowitzIs his look relevant?Feb 02 23:54
schestowitzI could find nice and kind Hitler photosFeb 02 23:54
schestowitzIt doesn't make him any less of an arseholeFeb 02 23:54
XRevan86schestowitz: No, but on videos he doesn't look differently.Feb 02 23:54
msb_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALT_LinuxFeb 02 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | ALT Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 02 23:54
schestowitzStalin was cruelFeb 02 23:55
XRevan86schestowitz: msb_ did said Stalin looks scary.Feb 02 23:55
schestowitzHe was treated with cruelty as a childFeb 02 23:55
XRevan86schestowitz: I'm saying he doesn't look scary.Feb 02 23:55
schestowitzand maybe he projected that onto othersFeb 02 23:55
schestowitzI thought a lot about Russia this afternoonFeb 02 23:55
schestowitzLike what motivated it to militariseFeb 02 23:55
schestowitzAfter losing so many people in ww2Feb 02 23:55
msb_wiki article says Suse helped with ALT.  I use Suse.Feb 02 23:55
schestowitzwhich it did not startFeb 02 23:55
schestowitznukes, subs, tanks, planes made more sense, but then it also occupied many nationsFeb 02 23:56
schestowitzUK receded its empireFeb 02 23:56
schestowitzand the US made only a virtual empireFeb 02 23:56
schestowitzbut didn't extent to occupy neighboursFeb 02 23:56
schestowitzmsb_: ALT is still developed?Feb 02 23:56
msb_US has puppet govts in many nations!Feb 02 23:56
schestowitzMicrosoft and its buddies at IDC worked hard to kill itFeb 02 23:56
schestowitzmsb_: it also wages war in other countries, unlike someFeb 02 23:57
schestowitzbut that's the nature of its empire, it's less visibleFeb 02 23:57
msb_schestowitz: don't know -- was just saying I use Suse, which helped with ALTFeb 02 23:57
XRevan86schestowitz: I think Stalin made a task to himself to industrialize USSR by all costs.Feb 02 23:57
schestowitzcovert, by proxy, usually destorying governments or nations that don't fall into the right criteriaFeb 02 23:57
schestowitzbut ask MinceR or others in places like Romania what they think of USSRFeb 02 23:58
schestowitzor worse, ArmeniaFeb 02 23:58
XRevan86schestowitz: What exactly do you mean by occupying nations by USSR?Feb 02 23:58
schestowitzTBH, I learned about Stalin from English-speaking docusFeb 02 23:58
schestowitzso might be biased Feb 02 23:58
msb_Maybe if USSR had not been threatened by invasions by capitalists, Stalin would not have been in such a hurry to industrialize, and could have done it in a more gentle way.Feb 02 23:58
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_ArmeniaFeb 02 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Russian Armenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jmh65 ]Feb 02 23:59
schestowitzXRevan86: http://historyatlas.wikia.com/wiki/File:Russian_Empire-1700.png 1700Feb 02 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-historyatlas.wikia.com | Image - Russian Empire-1700.png - Wiki Atlas of World History [ http://ur1.ca/jmh68 ]Feb 02 23:59
schestowitz1750 http://www.ostu.ru/personal/nikolaev/russia_eng/russia1750en.pngFeb 02 23:59
schestowitzCompare to http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/commonwealth/commonwealth.jpgFeb 03 00:00
schestowitzand compare to post-WW2 USSRFeb 03 00:00
XRevan86Nazist regime of RomaniaFeb 03 00:01
XRevan86I didn't know thatFeb 03 00:01
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania#World_Wars_and_Greater_RomaniaFeb 03 00:01
schestowitzFinland http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8Xobb0Ucy-0/T-oeIlv6O4I/AAAAAAAAA0A/V9JaBaHDQb4/s1600/The_Territorial_Expansion_of_the_Russian_Empire_1795-1914.jpgFeb 03 00:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Romania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jmh6t ]Feb 03 00:01
schestowitzAlaska sold to USFeb 03 00:01
schestowitz1000 http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/files/images/russia-map-1000.jpgFeb 03 00:01
XRevan86Finland was in Russian Empire but not in USSRFeb 03 00:02
schestowitzbefore they stormed Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary...Feb 03 00:02
XRevan86In Soviet Russia Finland occupies YOU.Feb 03 00:02
schestowitzAral is enclosed within RussiaFeb 03 00:03
schestowitzhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-l7QAeE3mtms/UzskFXIxYSI/AAAAAAAAjtE/_krCoWnpddQ/s1600/russian-empire.jpgFeb 03 00:03
msb_Did USSR take control of those surrounding nations to act as buffer against more attacks from capitalist nations.Feb 03 00:03
msb_?Feb 03 00:03
XRevan86So we're talking about post-WW2?Feb 03 00:04
msb_Yes.Feb 03 00:04
XRevan86Romania was a nazist country in WW2, right?Feb 03 00:04
msb_After WW2, some US military wanted to drop nuclear bombs on the major cities of the USSR!Feb 03 00:04
schestowitzand  vice versaFeb 03 00:05
schestowitzcold warFeb 03 00:05
XRevan86And Socialist Republic of Romania wasn't a part of USSR.Feb 03 00:05
schestowitzat that stage US wasn't that rogueFeb 03 00:05
schestowitzit was brought into the war by UK and other pressuresFeb 03 00:05
schestowitzincluding sunk boats (by U-Boats)Feb 03 00:06
msb_US wealthy financed Hitler _before_ WW2!Feb 03 00:06
XRevan86I'm not managing to follow.Feb 03 00:06
schestowitzArmament and a huge industry around it didn't go away when USSR collapsesFeb 03 00:06
XRevan86it only gets outdatedFeb 03 00:07
msb_schestowitz: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_NazisFeb 03 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 03 00:07
schestowitzmsb_: to some Hitler was seen as deterrent against the revolution in USSR, I thinkFeb 03 00:07
schestowitzEven some in the UK supported HitlerFeb 03 00:07
schestowitzwell before the warFeb 03 00:07
msb_schestowitz: Exactly!  They wanted that deterrent because socialism/communism destroyed the huge profits of the wealthy capitalists -- gave it to workers instead.Feb 03 00:08
DaemonFChttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/christian-anti-prn-crusader-arrested-again-for-slly-assaulting-a-minor/Feb 03 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rawstory.com | Christian anti-porn crusader arrested second time for sexual abuse of a minor [ http://ur1.ca/jmh8w ]Feb 03 00:08
XRevan86http://31.media.tumblr.com/5f0aa018905e1df19cb8867833f44fcb/tumblr_n1l9w5l4Kx1qexjbwo1_500.pngFeb 03 00:08
DaemonFCRyan FarmerFeb 03 00:08
DaemonFCJust now · Feb 03 00:08
DaemonFCMaybe he's the greatest at picking a state that lets child rapists out on probation so that they can prioritize the prison cells for people who got busted with an ounce of pot and have to do all five years? That is Mike Pence's Indiana.Feb 03 00:08
DaemonFCI say throw this piece of garbage in prison, tell all the other inmates what he did, and have the guards go take a walk around the block a couple of times. Why is this state so soft on these people?Feb 03 00:08
XRevan86schestowitz: What do you know about Belarus'?Feb 03 00:09
XRevan86Don't Wikipedia it, I want to know your vision :)Feb 03 00:09
schestowitzthey look like Russians to meFeb 03 00:09
XRevan86schestowitz: Government, not people.Feb 03 00:09
XRevan86You bet, you can't differ Belarusians, Ukraininans and RussiansFeb 03 00:10
XRevan86I can't.Feb 03 00:10
schestowitzI don't know about nations close to Russian bordersFeb 03 00:10
schestowitzLatvia, Estonia, BelarusFeb 03 00:10
XRevan86schestowitz: So, media doesn't speak about it?Feb 03 00:10
schestowitzXRevan86: maybe because of intermarriageFeb 03 00:10
schestowitzIf you go to the Balkans it's easierFeb 03 00:11
XRevan86Belarus' has KGB :)Feb 03 00:11
schestowitzFinland still has lots of Russian influenceFeb 03 00:11
schestowitzbut in part due to occupation, which even gave Russian names to places and made Russia a second langFeb 03 00:11
schestowitzKGB is not a raceFeb 03 00:11
schestowitzit's an agency Feb 03 00:12
schestowitzso what's noteworthy here?Feb 03 00:12
XRevan86schestowitz: Odd, I don't even interfiere with finnish people apart from Sazius.Feb 03 00:12
XRevan86schestowitz: Belarus' is an autocratic country with a socialist way close to one USSR had.Feb 03 00:12
schestowitzRussia could attempt to annex the "good" parts of FinlandFeb 03 00:12
schestowitzXRevan86: yes, they're young countriesFeb 03 00:13
schestowitzhence very corruptFeb 03 00:13
XRevan86schestowitz: Also Belarus' is not corruptFeb 03 00:13
schestowitzand many who are in reign there are the same Communists who were ruling over for USSRFeb 03 00:13
schestowitzEven if you go further to RomaniaFeb 03 00:13
schestowitzLike the US 'bleached' SS to make some fine "intel" officersFeb 03 00:14
schestowitzXRevan86: is Russia corrupt?Feb 03 00:14
XRevan86schestowitz: From the head to the bottom.Feb 03 00:14
schestowitzFlow of money from bottom to head :-)Feb 03 00:14
XRevan86schestowitz: From the head to… oops, money got lost somewhere in the middle.Feb 03 00:15
schestowitzlolFeb 03 00:15
schestowitzmaybe in some sub somewhereFeb 03 00:15
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schestowitzheading to chelseaFeb 03 00:15
XRevan86we call it "распил и откат"Feb 03 00:16
XRevan86it's hard to translate, I hope Wikipedia knows howFeb 03 00:16
XRevan86it's very figurativeFeb 03 00:17
XRevan86"распил" ~= sawingFeb 03 00:18
XRevan86money goes on a conveyor from one government struct to another, and each one saws themselves a part from itFeb 03 00:19
XRevan86http://lurkmore.so/images/b/b0/Popil.jpgFeb 03 00:19
msb_According to wiki article, Belarus has thriving economy, half state-owned, but is very corrupt in elections and thus control of govt.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BelarusFeb 03 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Belarus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 03 00:19
XRevan86msb_: I said it's autocratic.Feb 03 00:19
XRevan86and "откат" is ~= fallbackFeb 03 00:20
XRevan86"sawing and fallback"Feb 03 00:20
msb_Opposition candidates sometimes beaten and jailed.Feb 03 00:20
XRevan86after implementing something (with sawing) comes a fallback (reimplementing what was before with MORE SAWING, PROFIT)Feb 03 00:21
XRevan86msb_: Elections were in 2005, arrest of Kazulin in 2006Feb 03 00:23
*XRevan86 reads Wikipedia.Feb 03 00:23
msb_I'm glad that Putin took back Crimea from US-installed Nazis.Feb 03 00:23
XRevan86msb_: Ukraine government are not true nationalistsFeb 03 00:24
msb_They are fascists -- serve the corporations and the wealthy.Feb 03 00:25
XRevan86radical nazi party Right Sector played there part and stepped asideFeb 03 00:25
XRevan86msb_: I think we have different ideas about who're nazisFeb 03 00:25
msb_http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554Feb 03 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ]Feb 03 00:25
XRevan86msb_: I call those who serve the corporations and the wealthy as USSR did: bourgeoisFeb 03 00:26
XRevan86msb_: I know that, too.Feb 03 00:26
XRevan86msb_: Ukraine has a history of bad governments.Feb 03 00:26
XRevan86msb_: So they don't really complain %).Feb 03 00:27
XRevan86msb_: I could relay your question to some Ukrainians if only they wouldn't be asleep now.Feb 03 00:27
XRevan86I should be asleep now.Feb 03 00:28
msb_Bourgeois who do military takeovers and wear swastikas and put "austerity" on workers, I call Nazis.Feb 03 00:28
msb_The ones now ruling Ukraine even shot down an airliner full of people and blamed it on the Russians.Feb 03 00:29
XRevan86> Bourgeois who do military takeoversFeb 03 00:29
XRevan86There is no such crime bourgeois wouldn't do for a 300% profitFeb 03 00:29
msb_Yep!Feb 03 00:29
XRevan86Marx said "capitalist" thoughFeb 03 00:30
msb_US murdered two million people in Afghanistan and Iraq since 2001.  Feb 03 00:30
msb_and US did the 9/11 attacks too!Feb 03 00:30
XRevan86> and US did the 9/11 attacks too!Feb 03 00:31
XRevan86That doubtful.Feb 03 00:31
XRevan86that's*Feb 03 00:31
msb_Hoo boy, you are talking to a 9/11 researcherFeb 03 00:31
XRevan86No need to use unproven occusations as there is a mountain of proven ones.Feb 03 00:31
XRevan86msb_: Oh, okay.Feb 03 00:32
msb_http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911Feb 03 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 03 00:33
XRevan86msb_: I'm a techie guy, my knowledge on politics is limited :).Feb 03 00:33
XRevan86I forgot I'm not in a completely techie room right now.Feb 03 00:33
msb_This is a great IRC channel -- lots of interesting things discussed here.  Linux news and politics.Feb 03 00:34
XRevan86msb_: About Crimea I don't have a solid position.Feb 03 00:35
XRevan86But I know that: current embargo of Crimea by US is not a good thing.Feb 03 00:35
msb_Please watch the videos and go to the links under "The 9/11 False-Flag Terror Attacks -- Hijacking the New Millennium".  Lots of evidence there for US doing 9/11.Feb 03 00:35
XRevan86Evil Russia annexed Crimea so let's punish people in Crimea for that.Feb 03 00:36
msb_Crimeans voted to join Russia after current Nazi takeover.Feb 03 00:36
msb_Big majority vote, according to wiki.Feb 03 00:36
XRevan86msb_: I think so but there is are notable things on that.Feb 03 00:37
XRevan86there are*Feb 03 00:37
XRevan86msb_: You remember I did mention Churov here?Feb 03 00:37
msb_Hopefully all these economic attacks by US will strengthen the BRICS alliance, and Greece will join it.Feb 03 00:37
msb_Yes.Feb 03 00:38
XRevan86msb_: Guess who was in change of referendum in CrimeaFeb 03 00:38
msb_Maybe he's not all bad?Feb 03 00:38
XRevan86but on the upside I didn't hear about falsifications in Crimea.Feb 03 00:39
XRevan86msb_: Yeah, falsificating only elections that are known to be lost overwise :DFeb 03 00:39
msb_I think if I were living in Crimea and Nazis took over (and started shooting and bombing us), then I would vote to join Russia.Feb 03 00:40
XRevan86msb_: They didn't manage to bomb anybody by the time.Feb 03 00:40
XRevan86As far as I know from first hands, Crimeans really did wanted to join RF.Feb 03 00:41
msb_I think my grandparents came from Ukraine.  My grandmother mentioned Zhitomir.Feb 03 00:41
XRevan86(past tense is only because my data is a bit outdated)Feb 03 00:41
msb_My family name is Bilk, and there was a famous guy there named Bialik.Feb 03 00:41
XRevan86https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/БяликFeb 03 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ru.wikipedia.org | Бялик — ВикипедияFeb 03 00:42
XRevan86msb_: which one? :)Feb 03 00:43
msb_a poet.  But hold on, I can;t read Russian.Feb 03 00:44
XRevan86msb_: I guessed so, he has more rewardsFeb 03 00:44
XRevan86Boris Aronovich BialikFeb 03 00:44
msb_Chaim Nachman BialikFeb 03 00:45
XRevan86msb_: ohFeb 03 00:45
XRevan86msb_: He writes in yiddishFeb 03 00:45
XRevan86did write*Feb 03 00:45
XRevan86msb_: Little research: how do you pronounce Boris?Feb 03 00:46
msb_Not that I know I'm related to him, but he did live in Zhitomir for a while.Feb 03 00:46
XRevan86on which vowel do you put an emphasis?Feb 03 00:46
msb_Baw risFeb 03 00:46
msb_first oneFeb 03 00:47
XRevan86msb_: I thought soFeb 03 00:47
XRevan86Second one is a right oneFeb 03 00:47
msb_Always first syllable on US TV.Feb 03 00:48
XRevan86US movies with Soviet stuff are so… eh, Boris is not even a popular name.Feb 03 00:48
XRevan86msb_: That's why I asked.Feb 03 00:48
msb_What about Rocky the Flying Squirrel, with Boris Feb 03 00:48
msb_Badenov.Feb 03 00:48
msb_?Feb 03 00:49
XRevan86msb_: I didn't see this cartoon.Feb 03 00:49
msb_It was on decades ago.Feb 03 00:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Aid_Rostov/status/562408706722508800Feb 03 00:50
XRevan86There is a special term for СOVIЭT appearance in US movies.Feb 03 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Aid_Rostov: "@schestowitz: Flash (#malware) + #facebook (#spyware) = lots of trouble http://t.co/rylVQkJfbd"Feb 03 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | Don't click on that porn video shared by a Facebook friend: it may be malware | Technology | The GuardianFeb 03 00:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/leonelnc/status/562409889947865089Feb 03 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@leonelnc: @schestowitz it's systemd/linux, they are replacing the Gnu software, until they write their own kernelFeb 03 00:50
msb_Looks like Rocky and Bullwinkle is in bittorrent.Feb 03 00:51
XRevan86klukva, i.e. cranberryFeb 03 00:51
XRevan86and bOris is the main character of klukva-movies.Feb 03 00:53
XRevan86it has it's own charm thoughFeb 03 00:54
msb_schestowitz: How did we ever get along without all the Poettering crap?Feb 03 00:55
XRevan86msb_: It's all ConsoleKit fault.Feb 03 00:56
XRevan86logind is the most wanted part of systemd because ConsoleKit sucks so much.Feb 03 00:56
schestowitzmsb_: https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5526609Feb 03 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gnu cloned, under a common, unifying umbrella (GPL) all the components of #unix except the kernel. #systemd is now the same for #linuxFeb 03 00:58
msb_Somehow I have always just used Suse and OpenSuse and the only problems I had were finding drivers for trackball and video card.Feb 03 00:59
XRevan86schestowitz: Interesting vision he has.Feb 03 00:59
XRevan86msb_: SUSE and openSUSEFeb 03 00:59
msb_I used to buy SuSE kit in a box.Feb 03 00:59
XRevan86SuSE is fine, too (outdated).Feb 03 01:00
XRevan86but not Suse :)Feb 03 01:00
schestowitzsuse is still alive?Feb 03 01:00
schestowitz:-pFeb 03 01:00
schestowitzI thought we had killed itFeb 03 01:00
XRevan86schestowitz: Obey the supreme Open Build Service technology!Feb 03 01:00
schestowitzOBS has not been much Feb 03 01:01
schestowitznot since they 'shared' itFeb 03 01:01
schestowitznot many use it, promote it, etc.Feb 03 01:01
XRevan86schestowitz: What?Feb 03 01:01
schestowitzjust another tool in the big boxFeb 03 01:01
schestowitzlike Click and Run (CNR)Feb 03 01:01
XRevan86schestowitz: I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.Feb 03 01:02
schestowitzcompiling serviceFeb 03 01:02
XRevan86I'm speaking about a build farm which is used for all development in openSUSEFeb 03 01:02
schestowitzyes, so?Feb 03 01:02
XRevan86even a proper replacement for mentors.debian.netFeb 03 01:02
schestowitzRed Hat and Debian don't use it afaikFeb 03 01:02
schestowitzand it's them who control the lion's share of the GNU/Linux boxesFeb 03 01:03
XRevan86for openSUSEFeb 03 01:03
XRevan86schestowitz: OBS is still awesome.Feb 03 01:03
schestowitzit may beFeb 03 01:03
schestowitzbutFeb 03 01:03
schestowitznot widely usedFeb 03 01:03
schestowitz(yet, or ever)Feb 03 01:03
schestowitzlike yast2Feb 03 01:03
schestowitzgood, but...Feb 03 01:03
msb_I just compile stuff on my own machine.Feb 03 01:03
schestowitznot widely adoptedFeb 03 01:03
XRevan86schestowitz: It is a big point in favour of openSUSE.Feb 03 01:04
XRevan86msb_: https://build.opensuse.org/user/show/XRevan86Feb 03 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-build.opensuse.org | Home of XRevan86 - openSUSE Build Service [ http://ur1.ca/jmhnf ]Feb 03 01:04
XRevan86msb_: Can you push stuff into main repo from your own machine? :)Feb 03 01:04
XRevan86yup, you can via osc :DFeb 03 01:05
XRevan86The biggest advantage of OBS is that is costs nothing to push packages into official repository.Feb 03 01:06
XRevan86just SR and wait for the approval (twice, actually)Feb 03 01:06
msb_XRevan86: Schestowitz doesn't like Suse because Novell made evil deals with MIcrosoft.Feb 03 01:06
XRevan86Good night, sweet Novell.Feb 03 01:07
XRevan86msb_: Yeah, I know his position as I'm subscribed to him in Diaspora* (actually, in Friendica)Feb 03 01:07
XRevan86and I want to subscribe in GNU socialFeb 03 01:08
schestowitzI might use Social at one stageFeb 03 01:09
msb_I totally loathe Microsoft, but Suse is well-maintained (or was before it adopted systemd) and has good help on IRC.Feb 03 01:09
schestowitzWas going to, but was too upset at Evan for not giving me my dataFeb 03 01:10
XRevan86schestowitz: What's the point of having this data anyway?Feb 03 01:10
XRevan86msb_: I started looking at openSUSE only since 12.3Feb 03 01:11
XRevan86msb_: And… 13.1 is a big step forward since 12.3Feb 03 01:11
XRevan86because zypper in 12.3 is sure somethingFeb 03 01:11
XRevan86msb_: Anyway, Tumbleweed works quite fine for me since then.Feb 03 01:12
msb_OMG not another thing!  What is Feb 03 01:12
msb_Social?Feb 03 01:12
XRevan86msb_: GNU socialFeb 03 01:12
XRevan86msb_: Previously known as StatusNet.Feb 03 01:12
XRevan86schestowitz: Why TRIdentica is named like that?Feb 03 01:13
msb_Tells you what RMS is doing at any moment?Feb 03 01:13
XRevan86msb_: Have you heard about identi.ca?Feb 03 01:13
msb_I think it gets mentioned here.Feb 03 01:14
XRevan86msb_: And about Quitter?Feb 03 01:14
msb_It never wins?Feb 03 01:14
XRevan86https://quitter.se/Feb 03 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-quitter.se | QuitterFeb 03 01:14
XRevan86It's a Twitter quitter :)Feb 03 01:15
XRevan86msb_: http://gnu.io/social/tryFeb 03 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnu.io | Try GNU SocialFeb 03 01:16
XRevan86msb_: And that's me: https://loadaverage.org/xrevan86Feb 03 01:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'loadaverage.org' ( status 0 @ https://loadaverage.org/xrevan86 )Feb 03 01:17
XRevan86(avatar is not me, it's Tom Baker)Feb 03 01:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/562419506304544768Feb 03 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@angrymofo: @CANDDi @schestowitz Kind of reminds me of this https://t.co/TRtjKWN7wRFeb 03 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Apple Steve Jobs The Crazy Ones - NEVER BEFORE AIRED 1997 - (Original Post) - YouTubeFeb 03 01:18
msb_XRevan86: I think KDE4 is evil, so still use KDE3.Feb 03 01:22
XRevan86msb_: huh?Feb 03 01:22
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msb_I use 20 virtual desktops, and the desktop "pager" is much better in KDE3 -- doesn't show all those window outlines.Feb 03 01:23
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msb_KDE4 also has ugly ways of setting stuff like panel sizes.  Feb 03 01:25
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msb_but I use some KDE4 apps, like konversationFeb 03 01:25
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XRevan86msb_: But KDE3?Feb 03 01:26
XRevan86msb_: It's quite… not well intergrated into modern GNU/Linux desktop (toolkits and stuff).Feb 03 01:27
msb_KDE3.5.10Feb 03 01:28
msb_I use it with whatever apps I want.Feb 03 01:29
msb_I use mc and Feb 03 01:29
msb_Firefox.Feb 03 01:29
msb_Sorry for the extra newlines -- I hit Enter instead of Shift.Feb 03 01:30
msb_What integration would I need?Feb 03 01:30
XRevan86msb_: Similiar look of Gtk2, Gtk3, Qt4, Qt5 and DE (Qt3)Feb 03 01:31
msb_And I need similar look why?Feb 03 01:31
XRevan86And I'd rather use https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:PunisherHD:trinity-r14 than 3.5.10Feb 03 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-build.opensuse.org | Show home:PunisherHD:trinity-r14 - openSUSE Build Service [ http://ur1.ca/jmhug ]Feb 03 01:31
XRevan86msb_: Because why do you care about DE if you don't care about how OS works and looks? :)Feb 03 01:32
msb_It works fine and looks fine to me.Feb 03 01:32
msb_I'm constantly switching between desktops, so I want that to be very good and easy.  With KDE3 it is, with KDE4 it isn't.Feb 03 01:33
XRevan86msb_: You do know KDE5 approaches? :DFeb 03 01:33
XRevan86you should update numbers in your sentencesFeb 03 01:34
msb_Is that "Plasma"?Feb 03 01:34
msb_What numbers?Feb 03 01:34
XRevan86msb_: Plasma Desktop is what a thing with widgets is called in KDE4+Feb 03 01:34
XRevan86msb_: KDE4→KDE5Feb 03 01:34
schestowitzXRevan86: http://my.firedoglake.com/blog/2015/01/30/ukraine-tipping/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed44Feb 03 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-my.firedoglake.com | My FDL | Blog | Ukraine Tipping [ http://ur1.ca/jmhv4 ]Feb 03 01:34
schestowitzwhat do you make of this map?Feb 03 01:35
XRevan86schestowitz: It's pedantic.Feb 03 01:35
XRevan86schestowitz: It shows not what language who knows but preferences.Feb 03 01:35
XRevan86and not ethnic roots but who supports liberalism and EU-Ukraine or the pro-Russian way.Feb 03 01:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/angrymofo/status/562426925008695296Feb 03 01:49
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/562427240672014337Feb 03 01:49
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XFaCEschestowitz: did you direct message me?Feb 03 02:05
XFaCEmy chatlog doesn't show itFeb 03 02:05
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/iNaWvB8.jpgFeb 03 06:16
cubexyzhave to say the anti-vaxers were wrong on that oneFeb 03 06:19
MinceRthat's easy because they were and continue to be wrong on everything they stand forFeb 03 06:26
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msb_http://www.naturalnews.com/046614_cdc_whistleblower_vaccine_cover-up_criminal_investigation.htmlFeb 03 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.naturalnews.com | Natural News EXCLUSIVE: Bombshell email from CDC whistleblower reveals criminality of vaccine cover-up as far back as 2002 - NaturalNews.com [ http://ur1.ca/jlcgn ]Feb 03 08:33
msb_"a full analysis of the CDC's own data revealing a 340% increased risk of autism in African-American children following the MMR vaccine"Feb 03 08:34
msb_So the MMR vaccine _does_ cause autism.  The govt and Big Pharma lied to us.Feb 03 08:36
msb_But even worse, both polio vaccines were contaminated with monkey cancer viruses that have given cancer to millions of people.Feb 03 08:37
msb_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8FCJ_VPynsFeb 03 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Exploding Autoimmune Epidemic - Dr. Tent - It's Not Autoimmune, you have Viruses - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jkkz1 ]Feb 03 08:37
msb_Lots of people get autoimmune diseases from vaccines also.  See. the vaccines are full of viruses.  It's impossible to detect viruses, which are very tiny, unless you know what you're looking for, and have, e.g., made fluorescent antibodies to visualize them.Feb 03 08:39
cubexyzmsb_, I assume you're aware of the number of measles cases by year in the U.S.?Feb 03 08:39
cubexyzin 1954 it was 750,000Feb 03 08:40
msb_When viruses multiply in  your cells and bud out through the cell wall, sometimes they take with them a bit of the cell wall material, which becomes part of the virion.  Feb 03 08:40
msb_This is then presented to the immune system as foreign, and you can get immunity against part of yourself -- big trouble!Feb 03 08:40
msb_I am aware that measles can very easily be cured with modest doses of Feb 03 08:41
msb_Vitamin C.  I saw a 5 year old boy get cured of measles in a couple of hours using oral Feb 03 08:42
msb_Vitamin Feb 03 08:42
msb_Vitamin Feb 03 08:42
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/us-measles.pngFeb 03 08:42
cubexyzthat's just the reported casesFeb 03 08:42
msb_Vitamin CFeb 03 08:42
cubexyzok, great, personally I'd rather not get the needleFeb 03 08:43
msb_I and every other kid I knew got measles.  It's rarely harmful.Feb 03 08:44
msb_But with Vitamin C you can knock it out in two hours anyhow -- all symptoms gone.Feb 03 08:44
cubexyzwere you vaccinated?Feb 03 08:44
cubexyzmaybe you weren't, given the time frameFeb 03 08:45
cubexyzI don't think it existed when you were a kidFeb 03 08:45
msb_I was born in '45, so probably was not vaccinated.Feb 03 08:46
msb_Anyhow, a few decades ago this 5 year old kid got measles, diagnosed by his pediatrician, fever, bad rash, delirium.  We gave him a few grams of Feb 03 08:47
msb_Vitamin C and all his symptoms disappeared within 2 hours.  They returned in another 2 hours, so we gave it to him every 4 hours or so for a few days, and he remained asymptomatic and recovered completely.Feb 03 08:48
msb_Vitamin Feb 03 08:48
msb_dammit!Feb 03 08:49
msb_Vitamin C enables the immune system to kill off probably all viruses.Feb 03 08:49
msb_http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/2-How_Vitamin_C_Works-Cathcart-with_summary.htmlFeb 03 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | 2 - How Vitamin C Works - Cathcart - with summary [ http://ur1.ca/hc247 ]Feb 03 08:50
msb_Immune white cells are what fight off viruses.  Those cells utilize a small high-energy molecule, NADPH, for fuel.  The NADPH soon gets used up and the infection gets bad.Feb 03 08:51
cubexyzmsb_, there's a different "virus" I'm worried aboutFeb 03 08:51
cubexyzit starts with MFeb 03 08:51
msb_Vitamin C regenerates the NADP back to NADPH.  If you take enough C and keep taking it, the white cells keep working and the virus is beaten.Feb 03 08:52
msb_Microsoft?Feb 03 08:53
cubexyzya :)Feb 03 08:53
cubexyzit reduces one's money countFeb 03 08:53
cubexyzvery badFeb 03 08:53
msb_Did you ever realize you kinda have a one-track mind?Feb 03 08:54
msb_http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/4-Origin_Of_Vitamin_C_Treatment_For_Polio-Klenner.htmlFeb 03 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | 4 - Origin Of Vitamin C Treatment For Polio - Klenner [ http://ur1.ca/jkkzs ]Feb 03 08:54
msb_Vitamin C cured all cases of polio it was used on, but the medical industry and drug companies suppressed that knowledge.Feb 03 08:55
msb_Please watch this video.  You will learn a lot!  Download it with youtube-dl in case it gets removed.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8FCJ_VPynsFeb 03 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Exploding Autoimmune Epidemic - Dr. Tent - It's Not Autoimmune, you have Viruses - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jkkz1 ]Feb 03 08:57
cubexyzsolving certain problems requires focus, it's not any different from a virologist spending a lot of time in the lab, or writing a device driver for some undocumented deviceFeb 03 08:58
msb_You and the others here have seen through the lies that Microsoft tells you.Feb 03 08:58
msb_But the govt and big business tells lots of other lies that result in MILLIONS OF MURDERS.  That's important too!Feb 03 08:59
cubexyzmsb_ I still have to put up with most of my friends talking about how much windows sucks, but they keep on using itFeb 03 08:59
cubexyzit is, I agreeFeb 03 08:59
cubexyzI just feel the software thing is something I can do more aboutFeb 03 08:59
cubexyzI'd expect someone of your generation to not trust the governmentFeb 03 09:00
msb_You can at least spread the word on the other stuff.  People have already written it up, and made videos.  All you have to do is take a few hours to learn about it and then tell others.Feb 03 09:00
cubexyzI definitely don't trust big pharma Feb 03 09:01
msb_Yes, but it's not just my generation.  Do you realize that the US did the 911 attacks?Feb 03 09:01
msb_http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911Feb 03 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Human Society That Works For EveryoneFeb 03 09:02
msb_Please watch the videos and read the stuff there, in the orange box -- The 9/11 False-Flag Terror Attacks -- Hijacking the New MillenniumFeb 03 09:03
msb_The US then used that as the excuse to attack Afghanistan and Iraq and murder two million people.Feb 03 09:04
msb_Most of which were not Linux users but they were still people.Feb 03 09:04
cubexyzthe FEMA concentration camp videos seem to be goneFeb 03 09:06
cubexyzcopyright infringement beats everything Feb 03 09:06
cubexyzmsb_, you must be ticked off with the over-reach of copyrightFeb 03 09:07
msb_Shit!Feb 03 09:07
msb_Thanks.  Of course I have a copy.  Maybe it;s elsewhere on youtube.Feb 03 09:08
cubexyzthere's a lot of stuff I don't like, but I mainly talk about Microsoft so much due to the Comes documentsFeb 03 09:08
cubexyzschestowitz drew my attention to thatFeb 03 09:09
cubexyzalso I did a lot of work on Xenix and it was frustratingFeb 03 09:09
msb_Yeah.  "The Slog"  I know it well.Feb 03 09:09
msb_Do you have all of this stuff?  http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.htmlFeb 03 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | MICROSOFT'S WAR AGAINST LINUX [ http://ur1.ca/6f05a ]Feb 03 09:10
cubexyzmost of itFeb 03 09:11
cubexyzhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/search?q=bundlingFeb 03 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.ca | Notes on Linux [ http://ur1.ca/jml63 ]Feb 03 09:12
cubexyzDEC was probably the best at providing source codeFeb 03 09:12
cubexyzRT-11 customers could fairly easily get the sourceFeb 03 09:13
cubexyzI remember in the 80s, probably mid-80s and later there were a lot of white/grey box PC clones and they just loaded them up with whateverFeb 03 09:16
msb_I've been studying covert fascist operations as exposed on the Net for years.  I'm pretty sure that both KDE4 and systemd are attacks against Linux.Feb 03 09:16
cubexyzyou never got actual source code for the operating system until Minix came outFeb 03 09:16
msb_KDE4 was to fuck up multiple desktops which are extremely important for effective use of the computer as an extension of the mind.Feb 03 09:17
cubexyzthat happened because the old school KDE folks left the projectFeb 03 09:17
cubexyzand it happened more than once, because I can remember the KDE 1 guys complaining about KDE 2Feb 03 09:18
msb_The features of KDE4 were determined by focus groups  populated by naive MS-Windows users.Feb 03 09:18
msb_They knew nothing about multiple desktops because they never had them.Feb 03 09:19
msb_I think that's what caused the KDE3 programmers to leave.  The whole project was churned and fucked up.Feb 03 09:19
msb_I was told that the focus groups were done by Novell, which means they were done by Microsoft.Feb 03 09:20
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/redhat-6.2.pngFeb 03 09:21
msb_Now some -- at least one -- of the KDE3 programmers is doing Trinity DE.Feb 03 09:21
cubexyzwell they were mimicking win95 quite a bitFeb 03 09:21
cubexyzI think that's KDE 1, can't remember Feb 03 09:22
msb_That picture is KDE1?Feb 03 09:23
cubexyzuh, KDE 1 was 1998 eraFeb 03 09:23
cubexyz6.2 was zootFeb 03 09:24
cubexyzso that's probably KDE 2Feb 03 09:24
msb_I use all 20 virtual desktops -- Mail, Music, Science, etc.Feb 03 09:24
msb_I just leave the windows -- mostly konsole and mc -- relevant to each topic running in those desktops.Feb 03 09:25
msb_So I can switch to whatever category I want with a single mouse (trackball) press in the "pager" applet in the bottom panel of all the desktops.Feb 03 09:26
cubexyzversion 1 didn't look much different Feb 03 09:26
msb_It show the name of each desktop.  You can't see those names in KDE4.Feb 03 09:26
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-version-1.jpgFeb 03 09:26
msb_This is the important thing I'm telling you.  It has nothing to do with KDE1.Feb 03 09:27
msb_Multiple virtual desktops -- a great aid in quick thinking -- have been eliminated in KDE4!Feb 03 09:27
msb_That is major sabotage of Linux!Feb 03 09:27
cubexyzyes, but it's still interesting to see that KDE 1 did have virtual desktops as wellFeb 03 09:28
msb_BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT MOST DISTROS DON'T HAVE THEM NOW, BECAUSE OF KDE4!Feb 03 09:28
msb_That interferes with the usage of Linux as an extension of the mind!Feb 03 09:29
msb_Which is what computers are for!Feb 03 09:29
cubexyzlots of wm's have virtual desktopsFeb 03 09:30
cubexyzI haven't used everything, but I know icewm doesFeb 03 09:31
cubexyzit's just KDE 4 that's borked up, I don't use itFeb 03 09:31
msb_They need to have 20 of them, nameable, easily selectable with one button press in a ubiquitous applet, and maintained across restarts.Feb 03 09:31
msb_Does Gnome have that?Feb 03 09:32
cubexyzI'll hop onto a gnome box, just a secFeb 03 09:33
msb_And the positions of the xterms (konsoles) and the directories they're pointed to, also have to be maintained across restarts for each virtual desktop.Feb 03 09:33
msb_brbFeb 03 09:34
cubexyzok, gnome 2.3 has 'workspaces' which are adjustableFeb 03 09:43
cubexyzI don't use gnome 3Feb 03 09:44
cubexyzdidn't like itFeb 03 09:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/562546489923473408Feb 03 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz Wearing shorts is a fashioncrime anyway :DFeb 03 09:44
schestowitzAs short as the knees. They denies him boarding...Feb 03 09:44
cubexyzmost distros have multiple desktop environments/wmsFeb 03 09:45
cubexyzjust pick one you likeFeb 03 09:45
cubexyzyou can even run multi-environments:Feb 03 09:46
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/openbsd-with-mwm.pngFeb 03 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/openbsd-with-mwm.png )Feb 03 09:46
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/openbsd-icewm-with-mwm.png Feb 03 09:47
cubexyza more retro style would be:Feb 03 09:48
cubexyzhttp://maxhost.org/other/retro-mwm-desktop.png Feb 03 09:48
cubexyzpersonally I like the motif world, it's much closer to the original xlibFeb 03 09:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/562547838769709056Feb 03 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz yeah it's ridiculousFeb 03 09:50
cubexyzI'll briefly recap the graphics stack:Feb 03 09:51
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/xlib-graphics-stack.pngFeb 03 09:51
cubexyzbasically KDE is an improved CDE (which was motif based)Feb 03 09:53
schestowitzoh, retroFeb 03 09:53
cubexyzMatthias didn't like the variability of the old style, hence KDEFeb 03 09:53
schestowitzI want to try kde3 againFeb 03 09:54
schestowitznostalgiaFeb 03 09:54
schestowitzbut I wouldn't want to use trinityFeb 03 09:54
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/old-desktop-2005.pngFeb 03 09:55
cubexyz'old' here is very relative :)Feb 03 09:55
cubexyzthis is old:Feb 03 09:57
cubexyzhttp://maxhost.org/other/ultrix-vax-4.5-twm_1280x1024.pngFeb 03 09:57
cubexyzdevelopers, with few exceptions, follow the librariesFeb 03 10:00
cubexyzyou're not going to have too many programmers making sure their KDE 1 app works on KDE 4 or whatever it's up to nowFeb 03 10:01
cubexyzthe mentality is always the same: old stuff gets dumpedFeb 03 10:01
cubexyzit's not always true, I'm an exception :)Feb 03 10:02
schestowitzXFaCE: no direct message, noFeb 03 10:02
cubexyzI don't think it's too hard to get older KDE 1 stuff working, as in getting it to runFeb 03 10:03
cubexyzwriting for old stuff, that is a lot more difficultFeb 03 10:03
msb_cubexyz: ok, back nowFeb 03 10:05
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cubexyzBruce Schneier spoke out against PalladiumFeb 03 10:17
msb_This is what a multiple virtual desktop system needs:Feb 03 10:19
msb_MULTIPLE VIRTUAL DESKTOPS NEEDFeb 03 10:19
msb_20 of themFeb 03 10:19
msb_nameableFeb 03 10:19
msb_switched to with a single click of an applet in all of themFeb 03 10:19
msb_names showing clearly in appletFeb 03 10:19
msb_names maintained across restartsFeb 03 10:19
msb_xterms (konsoles) in each desktop have position and size,Feb 03 10:19
msb_  and the directory they're pointing to, maintained across restartsFeb 03 10:19
msb_cubexyz: Is there another DE, other than KDE3 and Trinity, that has ALL of that?Feb 03 10:20
cubexyzyeah, gnome > 2.3 probably can Feb 03 10:26
msb_I've been seeing people say that current gnome is terrible.Feb 03 10:27
cubexyzxfce4 is pretty good tooFeb 03 10:28
cubexyznot sure if it will do all the things you want thoughFeb 03 10:28
cubexyzxfce4 even retains stuff after switching DEs :)Feb 03 10:28
msb_All of those things are important.Feb 03 10:28
cubexyzwhich is kind of impressiveFeb 03 10:29
msb_As to old apps running in DEs, won't all of the run if their libs are present?Feb 03 10:30
msb_the->themFeb 03 10:30
cubexyzyes, but it's tricky finding all the necessary libsFeb 03 10:30
cubexyznot too many folks archive that stuffFeb 03 10:31
msb_I've been keeping the libs for xmms for years.  I just keep stuff like that in my account so it doesn't interfere with the standard system stuff, and call the app with a bash script that names them.Feb 03 10:33
cubexyzand there's no reason why you can't use some elements of KDE software in other DE'sFeb 03 10:33
msb_As long as the new DE isn't poettered with some new interprocess communication setup.Feb 03 10:34
cubexyzalso I'm logged onto multiple computers which are all running different DE's :)Feb 03 10:34
cubexyzand I do stuff like:Feb 03 10:35
cubexyzLOKI="/mnt/e/loki/Loki_Compat"Feb 03 10:36
cubexyzexport LD_PRELOAD=$LOKIFeb 03 10:36
cubexyzexport LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LOKIFeb 03 10:36
cubexyzrun-old-game-hereFeb 03 10:36
msb_Right!Feb 03 10:37
cubexyzthere was a project that tried to get GNOME and KDE working well together called the "Window Manager Specification Project"Feb 03 10:38
cubexyzso most stuff should workFeb 03 10:38
msb_I run the occasional gnome program, like an ftp client.Feb 03 10:39
cubexyzeven mwm uses ICCCM which is a very old standard for X window system clientsFeb 03 10:40
msb_I leave a lot of programs running in the various virtual desktops.  Sys Mon says I have 450 processes running now.Feb 03 10:40
msb_They don't use much cpu time, and they are there when I want them, instantly with no setup required.Feb 03 10:41
cubexyzdo a "ps -efw | nl" and checkFeb 03 10:41
cubexyzI'm only running 93 processesFeb 03 10:42
msb_don't you mean wc at the end instead of nl.  I get 343.Feb 03 10:42
cubexyzno, I meant nl since I only wanted the lines and it's less typing :)Feb 03 10:43
cubexyzplus I have nl for unix v5 :)Feb 03 10:44
msb_well, it gave me the whole list.Feb 03 10:44
cubexyzwell actually even v5 has wc, it might even go back furtherFeb 03 10:44
cubexyzyeah wc is in Unix version 1, so it's actually older Feb 03 10:45
msb_Anyhow I restarted sysmon, and now it says 341.  It remembers processes that are gone.  buggyFeb 03 10:46
cubexyzit might be including the heading, so it's off by oneFeb 03 10:46
msb_Anyhow, the point is, that's how I use Linux.  Leave everything running so it's instantly there when I want it.  Like my brain.Feb 03 10:47
msb_The only thing that takes cpu is firefox, because I have hundreds of tabs in it from various researches, and I don't clean them out when I should.Feb 03 10:49
msb_I have to restart FF every couple of days or it crashes X.Feb 03 10:49
cubexyzps -efw h is better for counting purposesFeb 03 10:50
msb_For every new page I look at, it uses up something in X, and when X runs out -- Whammo!Feb 03 10:50
msb_X crashes and kills the DE session.Feb 03 10:50
cubexyzright, I'd actually recommend you exit firefox just before you go to sleep each night/dayFeb 03 10:50
cubexyzthat's a cross-os issue, it's an 'eater'Feb 03 10:51
msb_Yeah, some websites keep broadcasting new shit to me, which I don't need of course.Feb 03 10:51
cubexyzit can actually bring the whole OS down Feb 03 10:51
msb_They think it's "cute".  Feb 03 10:51
cubexyzit might help if you do "ulimit -v 50000" or something like thatFeb 03 10:52
msb_I came across some good political site yesterday, but its homepage was so tall and used so many flash thingies, that it totally froze firefox.  I had to killall it.Feb 03 10:52
cubexyzff just keeps eating up memoryFeb 03 10:52
msb_I have plenty of memory left, but ff eats up some other X resource.Feb 03 10:53
msb_Actually, I have 8GB of RAM, but I'm not sure I ever get above 4GB in use.  Not sure if my version of Linux can address the upper 4GB.Feb 03 10:54
msb_Maybe I don't have a pae kernel or something.Feb 03 10:55
msb_OK, here are all the things they're doing to us (I may have forgotten some):Feb 03 10:58
msb_attacks on Linux, GMO, suppression of Vitamin C, toxic vaccines, toxic drugs, chemtrails, war of terrorFeb 03 10:58
msb_cubexyz: here are a few added:Feb 03 11:00
msb_attacks on Linux, GMO, suppression of Vitamin C, toxic vaccines, toxic drugs, chemtrails, war of terror, lying corporate media, corrupt political partiesFeb 03 11:00
msb_How could I forget?Feb 03 11:02
msb_attacks on Linux, GMO, fluoridated water, suppression of Vitamin C, toxic vaccines, toxic drugs, chemtrails, war of terror, lying corporate media, corrupt political partiesFeb 03 11:02
msb_Oops!Feb 03 11:03
msb_attacks on Linux, GMO, fluoridated water, suppression of Vitamin C, toxic vaccines, toxic drugs, chemtrails, war of terror, lying corporate media, corrupt political parties, capitalism, bankstersFeb 03 11:03
msb_There are no copies left of that Jesse Ventura show about FEMA concentration camps on youtube.Feb 03 11:07
msb_With capitalism, everything belongs to somebody, so it can always be censored for "copyright".  Except FOSS.Feb 03 11:09
cubexyzI think some silent movies are in the public domain :-PFeb 03 11:09
MinceRFOSS belongs to somebody tooFeb 03 11:10
cubexyzdid Poettering have anything to do with KDE4?Feb 03 11:48
msb_cubexyz: Not as far as I know.Feb 03 11:53
msb_They're just both minions of Satan.Feb 03 11:54
msb_The organized psychopaths have trillions of dollars.  They can always find people to bribe in any area.Feb 03 11:56
msb_Especially if they also threaten to kill their family.Feb 03 11:57
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cubexyzit seems that my solution for systemd has been followed by othersFeb 03 12:29
cubexyzgo slackware, or go bsdFeb 03 12:29
XRevan86Nobody likes Gentoo…Feb 03 12:29
cubexyzwhy is that?Feb 03 12:30
MinceRi'll probably go gentooFeb 03 12:30
XRevan86cubexyz: You didn't mention it.Feb 03 12:30
MinceRas it lets me ditch consolekit and polkit alsoFeb 03 12:30
MinceRand probably dbusFeb 03 12:30
cubexyzI don't really have anything against gentoo thoughFeb 03 12:30
cubexyzI like parts of different things...Bell Labs invented Unix, BSD added a bunch of stuff, MIT and others added XFeb 03 12:32
XRevan86cubexyz: Red Hat added systemd (:Feb 03 12:33
cubexyzevery once and a while people had stuff you're not going to like, it's just that everyone has different ideas about the "right" way to do thingsFeb 03 12:33
cubexyzshad/add/Feb 03 12:34
cubexyzs/had/add/Feb 03 12:34
cubexyzI remember this old DEC guy, he had studied RT-11 for 30 yearsFeb 03 12:34
cubexyzand he said "I think I know about 1/3 of it" :)Feb 03 12:35
cubexyzI didn't even realize Fedora went systemd since most of my computers ran old fedora, like FC1 evenFeb 03 12:36
cubexyzthen later on I started to hear all these complaints about systemd...Feb 03 12:37
XRevan86cubexyz: And then you tried it yourself?Feb 03 12:38
cubexyzXRevan86, yes eventually I didFeb 03 12:38
cubexyzFedora 16 I think it wasFeb 03 12:38
cubexyzthen I realized how different it wasFeb 03 12:39
XRevan86Notably on Debian systemd does not differentize things much.Feb 03 12:39
cubexyzeven Linux from stratch adds systemd nowFeb 03 12:42
cubexyzso it's a big problemFeb 03 12:43
XRevan86I have my attention focused not on systemd but GNOME folks.Feb 03 12:45
XRevan86Gtk3 is a big pain in arse.Feb 03 12:46
schestowitzhttps://framasphere.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_9bbcc80cb94c23aa504c.jpg LOLFeb 03 12:46
schestowitzNot accurate, but still...Feb 03 12:46
XRevan86cubexyz: Also they are the first ones who dropped ConsoleKit support.Feb 03 12:46
MinceRapparently gtk3 has support for client-side decorationsFeb 03 12:47
MinceRanother step in the windowsification of gnu/linux/xFeb 03 12:48
XRevan86MinceR: And unstable theming API.Feb 03 12:48
XRevan86They don't care about how Gtk3 looks outside GNOME.Feb 03 12:49
XRevan86they don't care how GNOME works outside systemdFeb 03 12:50
XRevan86and Debian moved to systemd because Debian uses GNOME as the main desktop.Feb 03 12:50
cubexyzwhen did consolekit first appear?Feb 03 12:51
cubexyzI seem to have skipped over it or somethingFeb 03 12:51
cubexyzthat's what I get for studying old unix too muchFeb 03 12:53
XRevan86cubexyz: 2006Feb 03 12:53
XRevan86http://cgit.freedesktop.org/ConsoleKit/log/?ofs=350Feb 03 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freedesktop.org | ConsoleKit - Console kit for PolicyKit [ http://ur1.ca/jmmuw ]Feb 03 12:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/niitsitapii/status/562594686758825984Feb 03 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@niitsitapii: Heehe! Love it! #GonnaWatchMore "@schestowitz: #fox 'news' making fantasy 'news' https://t.co/kxWDFtH20V"Feb 03 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@4ndyMurphy: #FoxNewsFacts It's actually legal for @FoxNews to falsify the truth. http://t.co/2zWpy65XJAFeb 03 12:54
XRevan86cubexyz: As people say, multiseat on ConsoleKit never did work properly.Feb 03 12:55
XRevan86this + slow development => logind was happily accepted.Feb 03 12:56
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3602#comicFeb 03 13:46
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MinceRhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3612#comicFeb 03 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal [ http://ur1.ca/jmne8 ]Feb 03 14:06
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sebsebsebMinceR: pingFeb 03 14:24
MinceRsebsebseb: pongFeb 03 14:24
sebsebsebMinceR: heh heh your going to love me I....Feb 03 14:24
sebsebsebMinceR: gave in at the airport in Brussels and.....Feb 03 14:24
sebsebsebgoing back from yesterday and....Feb 03 14:24
sebsebsebMinceR: bought at what does indeed seem like a discounted price or compared to a lot of new condition onesFeb 03 14:25
XRevan86sebsebseb: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rwp60eYuie0 detectedFeb 03 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Fluttershy - you're going to love me! - YouTubeFeb 03 14:25
sebsebsebXRevan86: uhmmm okFeb 03 14:25
sebsebsebMinceR: bought a something productFeb 03 14:26
sebsebsebMinceR: and I am not jokingFeb 03 14:26
sebsebsebI am being serious hereFeb 03 14:26
sebsebsebXRevan86: I need to upgrade flash really.....Feb 03 14:27
XRevan86sebsebseb: PepperFlash?Feb 03 14:27
sebsebsebMinceR: an Ipad Air  32GB   wifi oneFeb 03 14:27
MinceRsebsebseb: sic transit gloria mundiFeb 03 14:28
XRevan86sebsebseb: What OS are you using?Feb 03 14:28
sebsebsebMinceR: what was that?Feb 03 14:28
sebsebsebXRevan86: Mageia at the moment on my net book :)Feb 03 14:28
sebsebsebXRevan86: just need to intall more security updates and such, haven't yetFeb 03 14:28
sebsebsebXRevan86: so not the one with a bit of a fater proccesser and a better camera or whatever,  and  one of those finger touch security things, but that's okFeb 03 14:29
sebsebsebwhoops for MinceR the last commentFeb 03 14:29
*sebsebseb woudn't normally buy a APple product, but hey maybe it's time I actually get to use iOS and play around with tht toFeb 03 14:29
sebsebsebit's a major os I havent' really used yetFeb 03 14:30
XRevan86sebsebseb: YouTube still have to show you stuff whether your FlashPlayer is old or even older :).Feb 03 14:30
sebsebsebXRevan86: well Firefox is blockig itFeb 03 14:30
XRevan86sebsebseb: Ah.Feb 03 14:30
sebsebsebor  whateverFeb 03 14:30
XRevan86sebsebseb: Yeah, it does that with insecure versions.Feb 03 14:30
sebsebseblooks ike I have saved around £100 Feb 03 14:30
sebsebsebbuying it thereFeb 03 14:30
sebsebseb100 pounds aboutFeb 03 14:31
sebsebsebMinceR: XRevan86 to be honest it seems they were having a bit of a laugh in that shop yeserday toFeb 03 14:31
sebsebsebabout well how many Ipads they had soldFeb 03 14:31
XRevan86sebsebseb: You're British?Feb 03 14:32
sebsebsebXRevan86: from England yesFeb 03 14:32
sebsebsebwhat about you?Feb 03 14:32
XRevan86sebsebseb: Russian Federation.Feb 03 14:32
sebsebsebohFeb 03 14:32
XRevan86North West part :).Feb 03 14:32
sebsebsebXRevan86: well MinceR is going to love me big time, now that I have bought an APple product for my first time Feb 03 14:33
XRevan86MinceR: You like Apple stuff? How can you?Feb 03 14:33
MinceRespecially if you keep repeating it and highlighting meFeb 03 14:33
MinceRXRevan86: he's being sarcastic (and annoying)Feb 03 14:33
XRevan86sebsebseb: How can you?Feb 03 14:33
sebsebsebXRevan86: I don't like Apple stuff reallyFeb 03 14:33
sebsebsebXRevan86: howeverFeb 03 14:34
sebsebsebseemed like a discount yesterdayFeb 03 14:34
sebsebsebplus not really played with iOSFeb 03 14:34
*sebsebseb is interested in OS's :)Feb 03 14:34
sebsebsebhence  buying that Jolla phone for example to :)Feb 03 14:34
XRevan86sebsebseb: I have a sister with an iPad.Feb 03 14:34
sebsebseband well tablet to actsually, but won't get that untill MayFeb 03 14:34
XRevan86sebsebseb: This OS does not worth being looking at.Feb 03 14:34
sebsebsebXRevan86: yes loads of people who don't really know tech well have Apple productsFeb 03 14:34
sebsebseband all thatFeb 03 14:35
sebsebseb,butFeb 03 14:35
sebsebsebgetting one for  about £200 semed ok to me yesterdayFeb 03 14:35
sebsebseban Ipad AirFeb 03 14:35
sebsebsebhowever it's the older model, not the Ipad 2, but seems that's not really got anything as such  worth  having it for really,  like the guy in the shop said even,  but  wel they wanted to sell the other oen soFeb 03 14:35
sebsebsebXRevan86: I could try and sell it on ebaby or something ,but ehFeb 03 14:36
sebsebsebI love that typo  Ebaby instead of EbayFeb 03 14:36
sebsebsebdone that before :dFeb 03 14:36
sebsebsebMinceR: so what's the first thing I should do with it,  once taken out of the box, yes it's still in it's boxFeb 03 14:37
XRevan86sebsebseb: Trash it.Feb 03 14:37
sebsebsebXRevan86: hehFeb 03 14:37
MinceRtake it back and get the money back?Feb 03 14:37
sebsebsebXRevan86: maybe this will be useful in a wayFeb 03 14:37
sebsebsebI can  have an ipad at my speaking groupFeb 03 14:37
sebsebseband more interesitng devicesFeb 03 14:37
sebsebseband be likeFeb 03 14:37
sebsebsebwell you know what ipad isn't really that good since.....Feb 03 14:37
sebsebsebI mean there are some right APple fna boys there or so it seems, or one guy in particular,  and that annoys meFeb 03 14:38
MinceRit os is severely limitedFeb 03 14:39
MinceRalso, no microsd card slotFeb 03 14:39
sebsebsebwell  I'll find out soon I guessFeb 03 14:39
sebsebsebwhat the OS is really likeFeb 03 14:39
sebsebsebnow that I got thisFeb 03 14:39
XRevan86sebsebseb: Don't forget to register Apple IDFeb 03 14:39
sebsebseb,but  I don't intend to use it for muchFeb 03 14:39
MinceRdon't forget to take a lot of incriminating photos so that they can then be downloaded from the hypeCloud :>Feb 03 14:40
XRevan86The best part is that there is not much to look at in iOS.Feb 03 14:42
MinceRs/it o/its o/Feb 03 14:44
XRevan86It's ugly, it's not customizable, you put a lot of data in there.Feb 03 14:45
MinceRit has about as much support for multitasking as ms-dosFeb 03 14:45
XRevan86MinceR: Since iOS 7 it has better multitasking than ms-dosFeb 03 14:46
MinceRhow so?Feb 03 14:47
XRevan86MinceR: http://media.idownloadblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/iPad-iOS-7-App-Switcher.jpgFeb 03 14:49
XRevan86MinceR: As you can see, it doesn't look ridiculously gradientedFeb 03 14:54
XRevan86MinceR: Now it's ridiculously white.Feb 03 14:55
XRevan86with questionable design solutions like rainbowish shitFeb 03 14:55
XRevan86https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/ios-7-5.pngFeb 03 14:55
XRevan86I think it's inspired by that: http://farm1.staticflickr.com/148/380916586_92a1095987_z.jpgFeb 03 14:57
DaemonFChttp://wane.com/2015/02/03/coke-bets-on-premium-milk-to-boost-category/Feb 03 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wane.com | Coke bets on ‘premium milk’ to boost category | WANE [ http://ur1.ca/jmnul ]Feb 03 15:00
DaemonFCRF • a few seconds agoFeb 03 15:00
DaemonFCHey, if you google "Fairlife milk" and click "news", this same "story" is repeated verbatim by several other "news" companies. WANE has no journalistic integrity. This "story" was written by Choke-a-Cola and handed to them verbatim.Feb 03 15:00
DaemonFCChoke-a-Cola, stinky drink! Pour it down the kitchen sink! Smells like vinegar and tastes like ink! :PFeb 03 15:00
XRevan86I don't remember when I did drink Cola last time.Feb 03 15:02
XRevan86I think it was near the galaxy far-far away.Feb 03 15:03
DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx1BD3GMKVACDYXFeb 03 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: Choke-a-Cola company introduces milk for dumb people and pays your local news channel to shill it for them... [ http://ur1.ca/jmnxn ]Feb 03 15:09
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XRevan86TRIdentica nick still makes me upset.Feb 03 15:18
MinceRXRevan86: switching between "app"s is not multitaskingFeb 03 15:21
XRevan86MinceR: It's better than ms-dosFeb 03 15:21
MinceRrunning multiple "app"s concurrently is multitaskingFeb 03 15:21
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MinceRand i think that "design" is inspired by LSDFeb 03 15:22
XRevan86MinceR: LSD can do much better.Feb 03 15:22
XRevan86than thisFeb 03 15:22
XRevan86puddle with gasoline is exactly what this design is worthFeb 03 15:23
MinceR:>Feb 03 15:23
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msb_I have friends who got convinced by the adverts that Macs are good for intellectual people (which they are).  Feb 03 16:16
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MinceRi had the impression that they were designed for the opposite (i.e. morons)Feb 03 16:16
msb_but they can't figure out how to do simple things with them, and they call me up.  I know nothing about Macs, so I get a friend on the phonFeb 03 16:16
MinceRlolFeb 03 16:17
msb_phone in New York who's an expert on them, and he tells them how to do whatever it is.  Like ftp something to a website.Feb 03 16:17
msb_I mean my friends actually are intellectual people.  They write books.  But they can't figure out their Macs.Feb 03 16:18
msb_I tell them, why don't you spend half as much and get an ordinary PC and put Linux on it, and I'll explain how to do everything.  Feb 03 16:19
msb_But they refuse and say Macs are great.Feb 03 16:20
msb_The damn things don/t even have a microphone input.  They have to buy some kind of external audio gadget that converts the mic to USB or firewire or something.Feb 03 16:21
msb_I guess they're lucky they even have audio outputs.Feb 03 16:23
msb_I still wish I could get a copy of that video of the naked guy caressing that cylindrical Mac in bed.  I should have downloaded it while it was there.Feb 03 16:28
msb_That had to have been trying to sell them to gay guys as giant dicks.Feb 03 16:29
msb_I think it later turned out that that model was constantly overheating because it didn't have adequate air flow for the custom graphics card or something.Feb 03 16:31
DaemonFC`WISH-TVFeb 03 16:31
DaemonFC`6 hrs · Feb 03 16:31
DaemonFC`A local doctor says It's only a matter of time before measles reaches Indiana.Feb 03 16:31
DaemonFC`Are you worried about this at all?Feb 03 16:31
DaemonFC`He says there are enough unvaccinated kids here, that someone will eventually catch the disease.Feb 03 16:31
DaemonFC`Jessica Smith WISH has the story on ‪#‎Daybreak8‬Feb 03 16:31
DaemonFC`Ryan Farmer I wish that anti-vaxxers would just take their filth and disease and move to another country. We were on the verge of wiping out measles, mumps, and rubella forever until their stupid asses came along.Feb 03 16:31
DaemonFC`They deserve to be publicly shamed.Feb 03 16:31
DaemonFC`Ryan Farmer I support the doctors who are turning away patients who have refused the MMR. Those people should not be bringing their filth into the doctor's office, putting other people (mostly small children who are not old enough to take the MMR) at risk of death.Feb 03 16:31
msb_I hate to bust your bubble, but everybody got measles when I was a kid and nobody died.Feb 03 16:32
msb_It was normal.Feb 03 16:32
MinceRi think you're confusing measles with chicken pox.Feb 03 16:32
msb_Years later I found that a couple grams of Vitamin Feb 03 16:33
DaemonFC`In some countries, Measles kills 28% of the people who get it.Feb 03 16:33
msb_Vitamin C would cure it in two hours, if you keep taking the C for a few days.Feb 03 16:33
DaemonFC`And we don't need people spreading anti-vaccination propaganda.Feb 03 16:33
DaemonFC`The only thing taking an excess dose of vitamin C will do is cost you money and give you diarrhea.Feb 03 16:34
DaemonFC`It won't cure anything except scurvy.Feb 03 16:34
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msb_What, if they're starving to death in Africa and already have scurvy and kwashiorkor?Feb 03 16:34
DaemonFCEating an orange every day has enough vitamin C in it to prevent any deficiency disease.Feb 03 16:34
msb_DaemonFC: You are absolutely wrong!Feb 03 16:35
MinceRno uFeb 03 16:35
msb_Read the pages about C linked at the bottom of this page -- http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/Feb 03 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Codex Alimentarius, Vitamin C, and Viral PandemicsFeb 03 16:36
msb_Vitamin C cured every case of polio it was used on:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/4-Origin_Of_Vitamin_C_Treatment_For_Polio-Klenner.htmlFeb 03 16:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | 4 - Origin Of Vitamin C Treatment For Polio - Klenner [ http://ur1.ca/jkkzs ]Feb 03 16:37
msb_And lots of other viruses too.  And Klenner didn't even use high enough doses, but it worked anyhow.Feb 03 16:38
msb_this explains how vitamin C works:  http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/2-How_Vitamin_C_Works-Cathcart-with_summary.htmlFeb 03 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | 2 - How Vitamin C Works - Cathcart - with summary [ http://ur1.ca/hc247 ]Feb 03 16:39
msb_It regenerates NADPH, which your white cells use to fight viruses.  Feb 03 16:39
msb_Here's a copy in the Wayback Machine of Dr Cathcart's website.  A major expert on Vitamin C who used to live a few miles from me.   http://web.archive.org/web/20130302070632/http://www.orthomed.com/Feb 03 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Robert F. Cathcart, M.D. [ http://ur1.ca/gtiy6 ]Feb 03 16:42
msb_I've used Feb 03 16:42
msb_I've used C to cure viral infections in me, friends, cats, kids for decades.  It always works.Feb 03 16:43
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msb_Maybe once every twenty years I've gotten a flu.  Once I had it bad -- diarrhea, vomiting, fever.  I mixed 8 grams of C with calcium carbonate so the acidity wouldnt upset my stomach, added a little mint extract, all in a cup of water and drank it.  Yummy, and the symptoms disappeared in half an hour.Feb 03 16:45
msb_.Feb 03 16:47
MinceRhttps://www.tumblr.com/everybodyontheinternetFeb 03 16:47
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msb_It even helps with whooping cough, which is bacterial.  It destroys most of the bacterial toxin.Feb 03 16:48
msb_MinceR: Very good!  Net neutrality.Feb 03 16:49
msb_I listed all the things that the fascists are doing to us, and that are being exposed on the Net.  You can be sure they want the exposure to stop.  Feb 03 16:51
msb_attacks on Linux, GMO, fluoridated water, suppression of Vitamin C, toxic vaccines, toxic drugs, chemtrails, war of terror, lying corporate media, corrupt political parties, capitalism, bankstersFeb 03 16:51
msb_cubexyz found out that the videos I linked to on my site about concentration camps in the US have been taken down, supposedly for "copyright violations".Feb 03 16:53
msb_DaemonFC: please watch this video about how both polio vaccines were contaminated with monkey cancer viruses that killed millions of people.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8FCJ_VPynsFeb 03 16:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Exploding Autoimmune Epidemic - Dr. Tent - It's Not Autoimmune, you have Viruses - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jkkz1 ]Feb 03 16:55
msb_And current vaccines also have viruses that are causing autoimmune disease when the viruses multiply in your cells and bud out.Feb 03 16:55
DaemonFChttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/02/1361507/-Your-right-to-believe-in-nonsense-should-end-when-you-start-spreading-a-highly-contagious-disease?detail=facebookFeb 03 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailykos.com | Your right to believe in nonsense should end when you start spreading a highly contagious disease [ http://ur1.ca/jmp0d ]Feb 03 17:04
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msb_A whistle-blower -- a doctor involved in the CDC testing of the MMR vaccine -- has now confessed that the Feb 03 17:12
msb_cdc left out cases in their report that would have indicated that MMR vaccine DOES cause autism.  Feb 03 17:12
msb_http://www.naturalnews.com/046614_cdc_whistleblower_vaccine_cover-up_criminal_investigation.htmlFeb 03 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.naturalnews.com | Natural News EXCLUSIVE: Bombshell email from CDC whistleblower reveals criminality of vaccine cover-up as far back as 2002 - NaturalNews.com [ http://ur1.ca/jlcgn ]Feb 03 17:12
msb_"a full analysis of the CDC's own data revealing a 340% increased risk of autism in African-American children following the MMR vaccine"Feb 03 17:13
msb_.Feb 03 17:13
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msb_And since Vitamin C will cure measles very quickly, I'd go with that instead of the vaccine.Feb 03 17:14
msb_.Feb 03 17:15
msb_It turns out that drug companies and governments LIE to us.  I wish it weren't so, but it is.Feb 03 17:15
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MinceRhttp://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/02-FEB/MAD-Magazine-Despicable-Measles_54d10a5bca6718.33383744.jpgFeb 03 19:36
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TweetTuxMachines                 Winners http://t.co/a9gdgM9N48Feb 03 21:10
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TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxquestions.org) Members Choice AwardFeb 03 21:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Simplicity Linux 15.1 Is Based on Slacko –Feb 03 21:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why do some Mac owners run Linux instead of OSFeb 03 21:25
TweetTuxMachines                 X? http://t.co/idzTmrTzus (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 21:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why do some Mac owners run Linux instead of OS X? | Tux MachinesFeb 03 21:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Release date for Krita 2.9Feb 03 21:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HummingBoard-i2eX review, dual-core SBC whichFeb 03 21:26
TweetTuxMachines                 runs Android and Linux http://t.co/ciBSRsNQb0Feb 03 21:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HummingBoard-i2eX review, dual-core SBC which runs Android and Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 03 21:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Collaboration is Paving the Path for NFVFeb 03 21:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IEN6wuFpQA (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 21:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Collaboration is Paving the Path for NFV | Tux MachinesFeb 03 21:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Simplicity Linux 15.1 Is Based on Slacko –Feb 03 21:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Simplicity Linux 15.1 Is Based on Slacko – Gallery | Tux MachinesFeb 03 21:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.14.31 Is Now the Most AdvancedFeb 03 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 LTS Branch Available http://t.co/3cPnTmCoeEFeb 03 21:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.14.31 Is Now the Most Advanced LTS Branch Available - SoftpediaFeb 03 21:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Systemd – for better or worseFeb 03 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cJyXgx7AyJ (www.linuxuser.co.uk)Feb 03 21:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Systemd – for better or worse | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 03 21:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why do some Mac owners run Linux instead of OSFeb 03 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 X? http://t.co/COD1bHpQT2 (jimlynch.com)Feb 03 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com | Why do some Mac owners run Linux instead of OS X? – Jim LynchFeb 03 22:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HummingBoard-i2eX review, dual-core SBC whichFeb 03 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 runs Android and Linux http://t.co/kRZk0mwSW0Feb 03 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidauthority.com)Feb 03 22:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | HummingBoard-i2eX review, SBC that runs Android and LinuxFeb 03 22:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     My Week with Trojita http://t.co/x4huhuk0jyFeb 03 22:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 22:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My Week with Trojita | Tux MachinesFeb 03 22:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.14.31 Is Now the Most AdvancedFeb 03 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 LTS Branch Available http://t.co/GiXIcIGEGoFeb 03 22:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.14.31 Is Now the Most Advanced LTS Branch Available | Tux MachinesFeb 03 22:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Windows 10 Will Not Kill the Linux Desktop, ItFeb 03 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Actually Needs It http://t.co/fqI9FN7j6cFeb 03 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 22:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows 10 Will Not Kill the Linux Desktop, It Actually Needs It | Tux MachinesFeb 03 22:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LQ Members Choice Award Winners AnnouncedFeb 03 22:05
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/SOa6yN8B0J (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 03 22:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Windows 10 Will Not Kill the Linux Desktop, ItFeb 03 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Actually Needs It http://t.co/We4h60S1IwFeb 03 22:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Simplicity Linux 15.1 Is Based on Slacko –Feb 03 22:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: OSS http://t.co/D5txtdO0tyFeb 03 22:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Journal: You're the Boss with UBOSFeb 03 22:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.1 Might Launch End of February: WhatFeb 03 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Changes Can You Expect?  http://t.co/tFStAvRy8VFeb 03 23:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Android 5.1 Might Launch End of February: What Changes Can You Expect? : PERSONAL TECH : Tech TimesFeb 03 23:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Point-And-Click Adventure 'Moebius'...almostFeb 03 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 10 months later, a Linux build is up in aFeb 03 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 closed beta on Steam." https://t.co/9Xd6bg3I4dFeb 03 23:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Point-And-Click Adventure 'Moebius' Looks Close To A Linux Release | GamingOnLinuxFeb 03 23:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/fuVTHKutuZFeb 03 23:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 03 23:11
MinceRgnFeb 03 23:14
msb_MinceR: Good Night, Comrade!Feb 03 23:15
DaemonFCmsb_, I'm getting a Tdap shot tomorrow.Feb 03 23:18
DaemonFCOr does vitamin C cure Tetanus as well? *rolls eyes*Feb 03 23:18
msb_DaemonFC: Tetanus is caused by a bacterium, while the most commonly utilized property of ascorbate is refueling white cells to fight viruses.  Feb 03 23:28
msb_DaemonFC: But a google search reveals that Vitamin C can also inactivate various bacterial toxins, including those of whooping cough and tetanus.Feb 03 23:29
msb_This is something I hadn't known before.Feb 03 23:29
DaemonFCBecause anything you find on Google has to be true.Feb 03 23:30
DaemonFCIt's the law!Feb 03 23:30
msb_http://www.whale.to/a/levy4.htmlFeb 03 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.whale.to | Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases, and Toxins: Curing the Incurable by Thomas E. Levy, M.D., J.D.Feb 03 23:30
msb_http://www.whale.to/vaccines/tetanus.htmlFeb 03 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.whale.to | Tetanus [ http://ur1.ca/jmrxu ]Feb 03 23:31
msb_http://www.mv.helsinki.fi/home/hemila/CT/tetanus.htmFeb 03 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mv.helsinki.fi | Vitamin C and Tetanus in Animal Studies: a Systematic Review [ http://ur1.ca/jmry5 ]Feb 03 23:32
msb_http://www.whale.to/a/levy.htmlFeb 03 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.whale.to | [Book Dec 2002] Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases, and Toxins: Curing the Incurable---Thomas E. Levy, M.D., J.D.Feb 03 23:32
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msb_DaemonFC: "Because anything you find on Google has to be true.  It's the law!"  You should try actual thinking instead of making snide remarks.Feb 03 23:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     openSUSE 12.3 Is Officially DeadFeb 03 23:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE 12.3 Is Officially Dead | Tux MachinesFeb 03 23:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenMandriva Lx 3 Working On Adding WaylandFeb 03 23:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Shells, KF5 + Plasma 5 http://t.co/qBgqJRFm28Feb 03 23:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenMandriva Lx 3 Working On Adding Wayland Shells, KF5 + Plasma 5 | Tux MachinesFeb 03 23:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenMandriva Lx 3 Working On Adding WaylandFeb 03 23:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Shells, KF5 + Plasma 5 http://t.co/KyccnYxrYbFeb 03 23:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) https://t.co/RjJOkAfm39Feb 03 23:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.openmandriva.org | Pre-Alpha OMA Lx3 is here – hot and fresh! » OpenMandrivaFeb 03 23:55
DaemonFCmsb_, Read Quack Watch sometime.Feb 03 23:55
msb_If it contains any refutations of info I've presented, please give me specific links.Feb 03 23:56
DaemonFChttp://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/pauling.htmlFeb 03 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.quackwatch.com | The Dark Side of Linus Pauling's Legacy [ http://ur1.ca/jms44 ]Feb 03 23:57
DaemonFChttp://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/colds.htmlFeb 03 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.quackwatch.com | Vitamin C: Do High Doses Prevent Colds? [ http://ur1.ca/jms47 ]Feb 03 23:57
DaemonFChttp://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/c.htmlFeb 03 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.quackwatch.com | High Doses of Vitamin C Are Not Effective as a Cancer Treatment [ http://ur1.ca/jms49 ]Feb 03 23:57
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msb_DaemonFC: I've never recommended Vitamin C for cancer.  Feb 04 00:01
msb_The best remedies for cancer are the apoptosis promoters, dichloroacetate and various food extracts  -- http://cosmicpenguin.com/cancer/Feb 04 00:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | Cancer -- New Natural Remedies!Feb 04 00:03
msb_As to colds, while I do take oral C for them, the really effective method is sniffing sodium ascorbate up the nose.  Feb 04 00:04
msb_That immediately stops the runny nose and sneezing.Feb 04 00:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 3/2/2015: Simplicity Linux 15.1, Feb 04 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 OpenMandriva Lx 3 Pre-AlphaFeb 04 00:05
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/NDnLvGK6cB (techrights.org)Feb 04 00:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 3/2/2015: Simplicity Linux 15.1, OpenMandriva Lx 3 Pre-Alpha | TechrightsFeb 04 00:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ClamAV Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10, UbuntuFeb 04 00:06
TweetTuxMachines                 14.04 LTS, and Ubuntu 12.04 LTSFeb 04 00:06
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/4N3C0Ft1Wr (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 04 00:06
msb_Sodium ascorbate powder is used, and only short sniffs so it doesn't reach the throat and cause coughing.Feb 04 00:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jms64Feb 04 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | ClamAV Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and Ubuntu 12.04 LTS - SoftpediaFeb 04 00:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0.1 Is Based on Kodi (XBMC) 14.1Feb 04 00:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/G7YiADRZVj (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 00:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OpenELEC 5.0.1 Is Based on Kodi (XBMC) 14.1 - SoftpediaFeb 04 00:06
msb_Ascorbic acid must not be used intranasally as its acidity will be very irritating.Feb 04 00:06
msb_DaemonFC: I hope you will read the page on cancer that I posted above and watch the video linked there.Feb 04 00:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LinuxQuestions Member Choice Award summarisedFeb 04 00:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5MQtqCezcf (ostatic.com)Feb 04 00:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | LQ Members Choice Award Winners AnnouncedFeb 04 00:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/VJv7A7t4asFeb 04 00:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 00:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 04 00:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/NHmAoXKJgFFeb 04 00:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 04 00:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/trLW4WmVf6Feb 04 00:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 04 00:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland's Weston Now Supports MaximizingFeb 04 00:20
TweetTuxMachines                 XWayland Windows http://t.co/NYnUV5vlfaFeb 04 00:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wayland's Weston Now Supports Maximizing XWayland Windows | Tux MachinesFeb 04 00:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Announcing MongoDB 3.0 http://t.co/zv2zPGyYNQFeb 04 00:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcing MongoDB 3.0 | Tux MachinesFeb 04 00:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Announcing MongoDB 3.0 http://t.co/zv2zPGyYNQFeb 04 01:26
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 01:26
TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot      Feb 04 01:26
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TweetTuxMachines@LearnMongoDB_   Learning MongoDB? Start Learning MongoDB For $5Feb 04 01:26
TweetTuxMachines                  - http://t.co/e4RPW2X9mI (www.udemy.com) RTFeb 04 01:26
TweetTuxMachines                 @ameanmbot RT @tuxmachines: Announcing MongoDBFeb 04 01:26
TweetTuxMachines                 3.0Feb 04 01:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.udemy.com | Learn NoSQL Database From Scratch - MongoDB - UdemyFeb 04 01:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Signal analyzer runs Linux on BeagleBoneFeb 04 03:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Black-like core http://t.co/4c8fjq71OkFeb 04 03:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Signal analyzer runs Linux on BeagleBone Black-like core | Tux MachinesFeb 04 03:09
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DaemonFC`http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/02/03/044229/systemd-getting-uefi-boot-loader?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=facebookFeb 04 05:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Systemd Getting UEFI Boot Loader - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jmudb ]Feb 04 05:14
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cubexyzit's sad because all the systemd nonsense is actually driving some folks away from LinuxFeb 04 05:16
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DaemonFCI stole one of Richard Stallman's lines for the end of a Facebook post.Feb 04 05:42
XRevan86DaemonFC: He will sue you.Feb 04 05:42
DaemonFCWell, changed it a bit.Feb 04 05:42
DaemonFC"I don't like to see birth announcements on Facebook. Reproduction isn't particularly difficult. Even some fish manage to do it. I find reading the obituaries to be far more interesting."Feb 04 05:42
XRevan86DaemonFC: "If something is interesting to me, it must be interesting to others, so I'll just put images of my adorable baby, completely unique in Internet."Feb 04 05:54
XRevan86DaemonFC: Still, I don't think this is such a bad thing.Feb 04 05:54
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DaemonFCI want to know when systemd will have an email program.Feb 04 06:26
DaemonFCYou know Zawinski's Law of Software Envelopment. Feb 04 06:26
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The best open-source software for serious LinuxFeb 04 08:33
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5531828Feb 04 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #HumbleBundle losing its way more than before http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Star-Wars-Humble-Bundle complete exclusion of #gnu #linuxFeb 04 08:53
schestowitz"I would not say it is absolutely critical humble bundle ALWAYS have a linux port, myself."Feb 04 08:53
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schestowitz"Not to mention those games aren't DRM-free. Buy them on GOG."Feb 04 08:53
msb_Zawinski's Law. “Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can."Feb 04 09:23
msb_I thought it might be "EMACS is a great operating system.  Now all it needs is a good text editor."Feb 04 09:24
cubexyzthere's also a counter-movement towards minimalismFeb 04 09:31
cubexyzas the bloat approaches maximum people get tired of it and search for simpler systemsFeb 04 09:31
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msb_cubexyz:  Modularity enables good functionality without bloated blobs that are difficult to understand and troubleshoot.Feb 04 09:44
cubexyza lot of predictions I've heard about tech didn't come trueFeb 04 09:51
cubexyzone was Tanenbaum's prediction about x86 becoming obsoleteFeb 04 09:52
cubexyzand I'd say the whole systemd mess is linux becoming less modularFeb 04 09:53
cubexyzalso there were a ton of pre-systemd ideas that stuck around for a while, various daemons of different kindsFeb 04 09:53
cubexyzthen they disappeared... probably the distro maintainers didn't like it or the original programmers didn't update it often enoughFeb 04 09:54
cubexyzsometimes new ideas don't catch on... Plan 9 is a good exampleFeb 04 10:03
cubexyzit had a lot of interesting new ideas but almost no one runs it... it's a fringe OSFeb 04 10:03
cubexyzon the other hand Linux is going full tilt into new territoryFeb 04 10:05
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cubexyzanyways, history has shown Tanenbaum was wrong, the x86 didn't really die it just morphed into x86-64Feb 04 10:24
cubexyzI guess x86-64 is better, it's got the NX bit to protect against buffer overrunsFeb 04 10:26
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MinceRhttp://xkcd.com/1482/Feb 04 13:26
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/englobalnewsp/status/562944088513982464Feb 04 14:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Libinput Looks To Dominate On Both X11 &Feb 04 15:54
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MinceR175326 < mcornick> Q: What's a pirate's favorite statistical software? A: RFeb 04 16:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     From The Depths, A Sandbox Game About BuildingFeb 04 18:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Valve to Unveil glNext at GDC 2015, the OpenGLFeb 04 18:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation Creates ContainerCon to BringFeb 04 19:35
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DaemonFCI wrote on Facebook:Feb 04 21:03
DaemonFCsystemd is a big improvement. Regardless of what some Luddites would have you believe, there's only like three systemd modules that you have to use. It's quite modular. In fact, I think it's too modular. It would be better to create a hard dependency on them. Who really wants to deal with a different set of bugs and behaviors between distributions because someone decided that "Hey! My cron's better than your cron! My cron's better than Feb 04 21:03
DaemonFCyours! My cron's better 'cause he gets Ken-L-Ration! My cron's better than yours!"?Feb 04 21:03
DaemonFCBecoming a bootloader is a logical thing to do next, but nobody will be forced to stop using GRUB if they really want to keep using GRUB.Feb 04 21:05
DaemonFCThere are a number of problems that GRUB creates thanks to its licensing conflict with code from the Linux kernel that Gummiboot as part of systemd could solve.Feb 04 21:05
DaemonFCFor starters, GRUB uses completely different file system code than the Linux kernel.Feb 04 21:06
MinceRwhen will they integrate a mail client?Feb 04 21:06
DaemonFCIn fact, GRUB, historically, has caused corrupt file systems due to improperly handling them.Feb 04 21:06
DaemonFCIt's done it to Ext3, Ext4, and XFS that I know of.Feb 04 21:07
DaemonFCRed Hat had to go in and fix it because it was affecting some of their customers, so trusting GRUB to handle even the most widely used Linux file systems is dicey.Feb 04 21:07
MinceRalso, when will they integrate the kernel?Feb 04 21:08
DaemonFCActually, systemd is only about managing userspace.Feb 04 21:13
DaemonFCThey have pushed some userspace stuff into the kernel, when there's an advantage to doing that.Feb 04 21:13
MinceRoh, so they'll only assimilate every other _userspace_ component?Feb 04 21:13
DaemonFCkdbus will eventually land and get out to real users.Feb 04 21:13
MinceRthat's the real users' problem, thenFeb 04 21:13
DaemonFCThe kernel exists to serve userspace.Feb 04 21:14
MinceRthey thought they'd be running gnu/linux, but they're getting windows insteadFeb 04 21:14
DaemonFCI think that most of the kernel developers are viewing that backwards.Feb 04 21:14
MinceRpoettering's perspective is that everything exists to serve poetteringFeb 04 21:14
MinceRred hat's perspective is that everything exists to serve red hatFeb 04 21:14
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DaemonFCWell, Stallman is always saying that if people think they can do better, they're always free to release what they feel is an improved version.Feb 04 21:15
DaemonFCSo, since it's all free software, distributions are free to leave systemd alone if they think they have a better idea.Feb 04 21:15
DaemonFCsystemd itself has been forked and stripped down. That project is called uselessd.Feb 04 21:16
MinceRno, they're not free to do soFeb 04 21:16
MinceRhttp://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.htmlFeb 04 21:16
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DaemonFCI think you're saying that the problem is that too many people find systemd too useful to not use, and that bothers you?Feb 04 21:16
MinceRif they were free to do what they want, this mini-napoleon wouldn't be spouting shit like thisFeb 04 21:16
MinceR"Gentoo folks, this is your wakeup call.Feb 04 21:16
MinceR"Feb 04 21:16
MinceRno, the problem is that the systemd cult can't stand people having different opinions and they can't stand systemd-less alternatives existingFeb 04 21:17
DaemonFCWhy should they support really old kernels?Feb 04 21:17
DaemonFCThere's no upstream support for said kernels.Feb 04 21:17
DaemonFCWhy should systemd support something that nobody upstream is managing?Feb 04 21:17
MinceRthis isn't about kernel versions, yetFeb 04 21:17
DaemonFCGentoo might support an old kernel, if they're willing to do the work.Feb 04 21:18
MinceRthis is about assimilating udev while claiming that it will be usable standalone ( http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.hotplug.devel/17392 )Feb 04 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-article.gmane.org | Gmane -- The future of the udev source tree [ http://ur1.ca/jn1n9 ]Feb 04 21:18
DaemonFCAnd other system components abandoning the kernel is part of the work.Feb 04 21:18
MinceRand then breaking that promise ( http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html )Feb 04 21:18
MinceRand being an asshat about it.Feb 04 21:18
DaemonFCSupporting an old kernel means that they'll have to figure out a way to keep it working, which is why most distributions never even want to touch that.Feb 04 21:18
DaemonFCLong term support distributions tend to more or less freeze the entire system, so they don't have that problem.Feb 04 21:19
MinceRnew kernels don't depend on systemd, yetFeb 04 21:19
MinceRif they will, that will be the end of the linux kernelFeb 04 21:19
DaemonFCHow so?Feb 04 21:20
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MinceRthere will be no way to build a reliable system on itFeb 04 21:21
MinceRalso, android will have to adopt systemd or fork the kernel at that pointFeb 04 21:21
MinceRalso, it would mean that linux would break one of its principles (don't break userspace)Feb 04 21:22
DaemonFC`Google has the resources and the money to do pretty much whatever they want.Feb 04 21:23
DaemonFC`Look at Chrome. Magnificent program. Best browser ever.Feb 04 21:24
MinceRnot reallyFeb 04 21:24
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MinceRin any case, if google forked linux for this purpose, that fork would practically be linuxFeb 04 21:25
schestowitz> http://slexy.org/view/s212XezEYtFeb 04 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-slexy.org | Paste // Slexy 2.0Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz> Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz> connecting to SSH via Windows is insecure due to lack of a safe client,Feb 04 21:56
schestowitz> to name just one point of failure with that OS.  Maybe PuTTY will getFeb 04 21:56
schestowitz> updated soon, but that won't fix the other holes.Feb 04 21:56
schestowitzIt has hardly been updated for over a decade now, maybe just bugfixes.Feb 04 21:56
MinceRlack of a safe client OS tooFeb 04 21:57
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schestowitzyeahFeb 04 22:04
schestowitzback doors thereFeb 04 22:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker-Rocket Conflict is a Good SignFeb 04 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IVyI9VBzJM (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 22:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2bzFeb 04 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker-Rocket Conflict is a Good Sign | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mesh-enabled WiFi router runs Linux, promisesFeb 04 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 better coverage http://t.co/Qk6tvlFaHnFeb 04 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 04 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Mesh-enabled WiFi router runs Linux, promises better coverage ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 04 22:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2c0Feb 04 22:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Good news: Compatibility of LGPLv2 and LGPLv3Feb 04 22:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/uCyfOpQHiQ (www.olafsw.de)Feb 04 22:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2c1Feb 04 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.olafsw.de | Good news: Compatibility of LGPLv2 and LGPLv3 | Translating FreedomFeb 04 22:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crimsonland Top-Down Shooter Resurrected andFeb 04 22:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Ported for Linux 11 Years LaterFeb 04 22:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4zaJ3L6MLf (news.softpedia.com)Feb 04 22:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2eiFeb 04 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Crimsonland Top-Down Shooter Resurrected and Ported for Linux 11 Years Later - SoftpediaFeb 04 22:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Life-cycle of a Security VulnerabilityFeb 04 22:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/DbNu9acx6yFeb 04 22:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (securityblog.redhat.com)Feb 04 22:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2ejFeb 04 22:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://securityblog.redhat.com/2015/02/04/life-cycle-of-a-security-vulnerability/ )Feb 04 22:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Life-cycle of a Security VulnerabilityFeb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AXT2O01n6p (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2esFeb 04 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Life-cycle of a Security Vulnerability | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://t.co/5vV90nvkJZ (www.x.org) Server 1.17Feb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Officially Released http://t.co/cc8eTqXc8MFeb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org | xorgFeb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2euFeb 04 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | X.Org Server 1.17 Officially Released | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The New Stack Makers: Alex Polvi and What ComesFeb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 with High Availability, Portability andFeb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Containers http://t.co/i2IvTRrBayFeb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2exFeb 04 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The New Stack Makers: Alex Polvi and What Comes with High Availability, Portability and Containers | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's OPW Women Program Becomes OutreachyFeb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/U5pjAl4hG9 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 22:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2f0Feb 04 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME's OPW Women Program Becomes Outreachy | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/rmsthebot/status/563103856838840321Feb 04 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rmsthebot: @schestowitz Linux is only the kernel, the OS is GNU+LinuxFeb 04 22:39
MinceR:)Feb 04 22:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On: RaspberryPi NOOBS 1.3.12Feb 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/iQVldltoJR (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2hqFeb 04 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: RaspberryPi NOOBS 1.3.12 | Tux MachinesFeb 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On: RaspberryPi NOOBS 1.3.12 Life-cycleFeb 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 of a Security VulnerabilityFeb 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/EXhfuI2nBj (www.zdnet.com)Feb 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2hsFeb 04 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-On: RaspberryPi NOOBS 1.3.12 | ZDNetFeb 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://t.co/5vV90nvkJZ (www.x.org) Server 1.17Feb 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Officially Released http://t.co/KJDTjN0tgeFeb 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 22:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2huFeb 04 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | X.Org Server 1.17 Officially Released - PhoronixFeb 04 22:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq/status/563106635456208897Feb 04 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MarkSZaidEsq: @schestowitz I'm all for paying clients! Works for me! How about you @BradMossEsq ?Feb 04 22:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq/status/563106980181864451Feb 04 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MarkSZaidEsq: @schestowitz Hey @BradMossEsq another genius outed the fact we actually work for the govt. Put him on the surveillance black helicopter listFeb 04 22:49
schestowitz"representing defense contractors" - self pwnageFeb 04 22:50
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/563108909888831488Feb 04 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BradMossEsq: @schestowitz @MarkSZaidEsq Individuals, not the companies. Learn how to use GoogleFeb 04 23:01
schestowitzWhy do you guys spend so much time publicly attacking whistleblowers?Feb 04 23:09
schestowitzAttracting/luring in people who would be left with false impression based on the stated claims of your site?Feb 04 23:10
schestowitzYou Pinky and the Brain seem to be defending whistleblowers like NSA "privacy" suits/bigwigs defend privacyFeb 04 23:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's OPW Women Program Becomes OutreachyFeb 04 23:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/i6KNrnEwtt (www.phoronix.com)Feb 04 23:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2rlFeb 04 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME's OPW Women Program Becomes Outreachy - PhoronixFeb 04 23:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Attention Linux gamers: Valve, Khronos toFeb 04 23:12
TweetTuxMachines                 reveal next-gen OpenGL successor at GDC Feb 04 23:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/M73bkFtvU3 (www.pcworld.com)Feb 04 23:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2rmFeb 04 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Attention Linux gamers: Valve, Khronos to reveal next-gen OpenGL successor at GDC | PCWorldFeb 04 23:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Attention Linux gamers: Valve, Khronos toFeb 04 23:12
TweetTuxMachines                 reveal next-gen OpenGL successor at GDCFeb 04 23:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/mXNt1UvTqE (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 23:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2rnFeb 04 23:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Attention Linux gamers: Valve, Khronos to reveal next-gen OpenGL successor at GDC | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:12
schestowitz I have seen enough of the likes of you in my field, like those claiming "Microsoft loves Linux"Feb 04 23:12
schestowitzAnd if what the #fbi said in official documents about you  is true, then I commend those who unveil the cloakFeb 04 23:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Foundation creates ContainerCon to bringFeb 04 23:15
TweetTuxMachines                 vendors together http://t.co/S5JfcN5ndpFeb 04 23:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 23:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation creates ContainerCon to bring vendors together | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Results from Fedora's FESCo electionFeb 04 23:15
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/FK11H99EH0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 23:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Results from Fedora's FESCo election | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Developers Can Publish Apps in Ubuntu TouchFeb 04 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Store in Less than a MinuteFeb 04 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BRZsVOKTbe (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 23:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2svFeb 04 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Developers Can Publish Apps in Ubuntu Touch Store in Less than a Minute | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Applications 14.12.2 Is Now Available forFeb 04 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Upgrade http://t.co/JuKwP0VX3TFeb 04 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 23:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn2syFeb 04 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Applications 14.12.2 Is Now Available for Upgrade | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:16
MinceRhttp://beta.slashdot.org/story/213183Feb 04 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beta.slashdot.org | New Chinese Regulations Require Real Name On Internet - SlashdotFeb 04 23:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 4/2/2015: http://t.co/5vV90nvkJZFeb 04 23:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.x.org) Server 1.17, ContainerConFeb 04 23:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/k22W0NfI3z (techrights.org)Feb 04 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org | xorgFeb 04 23:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn32tFeb 04 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/2/2015: X.Org Server 1.17, ContainerCon | TechrightsFeb 04 23:46
schestowitz"We attach an English translation of the verdict in the Topic defamation case."Feb 04 23:46
schestowitz(Translation of verdict in Topic defamation case)Feb 04 23:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Windows Fans Will Find That Q4OS Is the PerfectFeb 04 23:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Replacement, For Windows XPFeb 04 23:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Lht0byMIfW (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 23:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn32vFeb 04 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows Fans Will Find That Q4OS Is the Perfect Replacement, For Windows XP | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Gets Important Linux KernelFeb 04 23:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Update http://t.co/kq46yKim6cFeb 04 23:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 04 23:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn330Feb 04 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Gets Important Linux Kernel Update | Tux MachinesFeb 04 23:47
schestowitz"Here is a version which also includes a German translation."Feb 04 23:47
MinceRgnFeb 05 00:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/563132548038266880Feb 05 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BradMossEsq: @schestowitz @MarkSZaidEsq we critique those who choose to break the law or advocate breaking the law. Our WBer clients comply with the law.Feb 05 00:32
schestowitzIs Snowden breaking the law? Feb 05 00:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/oRcYp0FU3EFeb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 00:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/llAVtiaGV3Feb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 00:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/JPBPpOdVQBFeb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn3i3Feb 05 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 05 00:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.1 (!) spotted running on Android OneFeb 05 00:42
TweetTuxMachines                 devices headed for IndonesiaFeb 05 00:42
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/jU8n5wvClvFeb 05 00:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidauthority.com)Feb 05 00:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn3kjFeb 05 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Android 5.1 (!) spotted running on Android One devices headed for IndonesiaFeb 05 00:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Users Still Have Sweet Tooth For KitKatFeb 05 00:43
TweetTuxMachines                 But Lollipop Is Gaining GroundFeb 05 00:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/SAz54kAViW (www.techtimes.com)Feb 05 00:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn3kkFeb 05 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com | Android Users Still Have Sweet Tooth For KitKat But Lollipop Is Gaining Ground : PERSONAL TECH : Tech TimesFeb 05 00:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Developers Can Publish Apps in Ubuntu TouchFeb 05 00:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Store in Less than a Minute Feb 05 00:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wKzHKbLXCq (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 00:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn3klFeb 05 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Developers Can Publish Apps in Ubuntu Touch Store in Less than a Minute - SoftpediaFeb 05 00:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Applications 14.12.2 Is Now Available forFeb 05 00:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Upgrade http://t.co/SSwRFQ7Ic4Feb 05 00:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 00:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn3p3Feb 05 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Applications 14.12.2 Is Now Available for Upgrade - SoftpediaFeb 05 00:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Good and Samsung Partner to Harden AndroidFeb 05 00:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Security http://t.co/D9snh6T2UyFeb 05 00:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxinsider.com)Feb 05 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Good and Samsung Partner to Harden Android Security | Enterprise | LinuxInsiderFeb 05 00:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn3p4Feb 05 00:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Windows Fans Will Find That Q4OS Is the PerfectFeb 05 00:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Replacement, For Windows XPFeb 05 00:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LSbNmGcYyX (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 00:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn3p5Feb 05 00:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Windows Fans Will Find That Q4OS Is the Perfect Replacement, For Windows XP - SoftpediaFeb 05 00:59
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schestowitz> https://twitter.com/Henesua/status/563140175081897985Feb 05 01:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Henesua: @BradMossEsq @schestowitz @MarkSZaidEsq @Thomas_Drake1 @JesselynRadack Why are you defending yourself with a smoke screen?Feb 05 01:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gerge42/status/563145616025726977Feb 05 01:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gerge42: @BradMossEsq @schestowitz There are lightyears btw "telling a client to leak classified info"+ratting a client out to his/her employer.Feb 05 01:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5536457Feb 05 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Top 7 Reasons Developers Contribute to Open Source Projects http://warewolf.io/ESB-blog/7-reasons-developers-contribute-to-open-source-projects/ #freeswFeb 05 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> warewolf.io | Top 7 reasons Developers contribute to open source projectsFeb 05 01:25
schestowitz"This list left out one important reason: "money". People get paid to work on open source projects."Feb 05 01:25
schestowitz"Feb 05 01:25
schestowitzReally? Because I would like to start my career as a programmer in working on libre software.Feb 05 01:25
schestowitzThanks.Feb 05 01:25
schestowitz"Feb 05 01:25
schestowitz"If you want to go to the top, you can start with the largest publicly traded open source software company on US stock exchanges, Red Hat. Though I don't think a job there would be too much fun. But believe it or not, there is an entire population of people who are employed for their expertise with free software. It's not just for kids and lulz."Feb 05 01:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5536084Feb 05 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The so-called "job creators" and their media love to demonise (over welware) those whose jobs were lost due to greed of "job creators"Feb 05 01:26
schestowitzspot-on!""Feb 05 01:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5536266Feb 05 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Don't Want systemd? Try #GNU Hurd, But It Still Lacks 64-bit, Audio & USB http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNU-Hurd-2015-Status-Update not trolling, #fosdem coverageFeb 05 01:34
schestowitz"Worth considering it."Feb 05 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com | Don't Want systemd? Try GNU Hurd, But It Still Lacks 64-bit, Audio & USB - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/jn3zw ]Feb 05 01:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5536118Feb 05 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Anonymity has a new name in the corporate media (IDG in this case: "child pornography" http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2476003,00.asp #propaganda from #uk uni.Feb 05 01:35
schestowitz"wow, a mainstream publication included words about Tor that are aligned with the foundation's mission? That's a first."Feb 05 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcmag.com | Inside the Dark Web | PCMag.com [ http://ur1.ca/jn408 ]Feb 05 01:35
schestowitz"Corporate Press = Terrorists!"Feb 05 01:35
DaemonFChttp://www.engadget.com/2015/02/03/amazon-google-microsoft-adblock-plus/?ncid=rss_truncatedFeb 05 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Amazon, Google and Microsoft escape Adblock Plus, for a price [ http://ur1.ca/jn49g ]Feb 05 02:11
DaemonFCThat's quite the racket they have going on.Feb 05 02:11
DaemonFCThat's why I don't mention Adblock Plus anymore unless I'm suggesting things people should use instead, like Chrome Adblock or Adblock Edge.Feb 05 02:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/m8m2ciqroZFeb 05 02:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 02:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 05 02:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Gets Important Linux KernelFeb 05 02:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Update http://t.co/j6FMrOxcJjFeb 05 02:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 05 02:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Gets Important Linux Kernel Update - SoftpediaFeb 05 02:38
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cubexyzhmmm, I was about to upgrade this one laptop with latest and greatest fedora but then I realized, wait a second it's all 64-bit nowFeb 05 05:16
cubexyzso I guess it's latest and greatest slackware insteadFeb 05 05:17
cubexyzend of the line for fedora it seemsFeb 05 05:19
cubexyzwhich is a pityFeb 05 05:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-friendly i.MX6 SBC offers dual-GbE, PoE,Feb 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines                 HDMI http://t.co/vpw7gcTYUMFeb 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn5pgFeb 05 05:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-friendly i.MX6 SBC offers dual-GbE, PoE, HDMI | Tux MachinesFeb 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wireshark 1.99.2 Experimental Version ReleasedFeb 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines                 With Updated Protocol SupportFeb 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Fr8XFdxaoM (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 05:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn5piFeb 05 05:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wireshark 1.99.2 Experimental Version Released With Updated Protocol Support | Tux MachinesFeb 05 05:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kingdom Come: Deliverance, A CryEngine GameFeb 05 11:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Version Still Happening, Not Due UntilFeb 05 11:00
TweetTuxMachines                 After Windows https://t.co/98lvUBMidDFeb 05 11:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 05 11:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn8geFeb 05 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Kingdom Come: Deliverance, A CryEngine Game Linux Version Still Happening, Not Due Until After Windows | GamingOnLinuxFeb 05 11:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux, Windows, Mac, and YouFeb 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QgahSsVfMl (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn8giFeb 05 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux, Windows, Mac, and You | Tux MachinesFeb 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HandyLinux 2.0 Alpha Shows That Debian and XfceFeb 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Can Be Exciting – GalleryFeb 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BxOJXEYY8A (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn8guFeb 05 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HandyLinux 2.0 Alpha Shows That Debian and Xfce Can Be Exciting – Gallery | Tux MachinesFeb 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google's next Lollipop update shows up on anFeb 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Android One phone http://t.co/MXrQTBFRFqFeb 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn8gyFeb 05 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's next Lollipop update shows up on an Android One phone | Tux MachinesFeb 05 11:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 to Be Out Soon, Features aFeb 05 11:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Cool and Light Enlightenment DesktopFeb 05 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/klKrsMb43e (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 11:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn8jjFeb 05 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 to Be Out Soon, Features a Cool and Light Enlightenment Desktop | Tux MachinesFeb 05 11:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 to Launch with Linux Kernel 3.19,Feb 05 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Most Likely http://t.co/kApcannhelFeb 05 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 11:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn8jmFeb 05 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 to Launch with Linux Kernel 3.19, Most Likely | Tux MachinesFeb 05 11:06
TweetTuxMachines@rmsthebot       @tuxmachines Linux is only the kernel...Feb 05 11:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn8jnFeb 05 11:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Survival Game 'Rust' Fixes Linux Issues, SomeFeb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Thoughts https://t.co/BL214soXKGFeb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn8lcFeb 05 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Survival Game 'Rust' Fixes Linux Issues, Some Thoughts | GamingOnLinuxFeb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lords of Xulima Complex and Fun RPG Lands onFeb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux with a Patch http://t.co/3HqyED5HLCFeb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lords of Xulima Complex and Fun RPG Lands on Linux with a Patch - SoftpediaFeb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn8lfFeb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unzip Exploit Closed in All Supported UbuntuFeb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines                 OSesFeb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/E649SAFrPR (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn8lgFeb 05 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Unzip Exploit Closed in All Supported Ubuntu OSes - SoftpediaFeb 05 11:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Lollipop 5.1 is ready, but you can’tFeb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 have it yet http://t.co/s19f7X2UqaFeb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.greenbot.com)Feb 05 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com | Android Lollipop 5.1 is ready, but you can’t have it yet | GreenbotFeb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn95uFeb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Crimsonland Arrives On Linux 11 Years AfterFeb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows, Promises Top Down Bloody ActionFeb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/WPcMh1Wblg (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn95vFeb 05 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Crimsonland Arrives On Linux 11 Years After Windows, Promises Top Down Bloody Action | GamingOnLinuxFeb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Freaking Meatbags Released For Linux, SomeFeb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Thoughts On It https://t.co/Qz8crAYX6gFeb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn95wFeb 05 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Freaking Meatbags Released For Linux, Some Thoughts On It | GamingOnLinuxFeb 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-friendly i.MX6 SBC offers dual-GbE, PoE,Feb 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines                 HDMI http://t.co/YdDzHsAg8C (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn9adFeb 05 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Linux-friendly i.MX6 SBC offers dual-GbE, PoE, HDMI ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HandyLinux 2.0 Alpha Shows That Debian and XfceFeb 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Can Be Exciting – GalleryFeb 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7oRN08672A (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn9aeFeb 05 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | HandyLinux 2.0 Alpha Shows That Debian and Xfce Can Be Exciting – Gallery - SoftpediaFeb 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BodhiLinux 3.0.0 to Be Out Soon, Features aFeb 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Cool and Light Enlightenment DesktopFeb 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pAIvP433VZ (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 11:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn9agFeb 05 11:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 to Be Out Soon, Features a Cool and Light Enlightenment Desktop - SoftpediaFeb 05 11:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 to Launch with Linux Kernel 3.19,Feb 05 12:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Most Likely http://t.co/LUiFdvEeoWFeb 05 12:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 to Launch with Linux Kernel 3.19, Most Likely - SoftpediaFeb 05 12:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn9xkFeb 05 12:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It's Easy To Switch Between Upstart & SystemdFeb 05 12:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Right Now On Ubuntu 15.04Feb 05 12:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/D1m44djgfv (www.phoronix.com)Feb 05 12:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn9xlFeb 05 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | It's Easy To Switch Between Upstart & Systemd Right Now On Ubuntu 15.04 - PhoronixFeb 05 12:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It's Easy To Switch Between Upstart & SystemdFeb 05 12:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Right Now On Ubuntu 15.04Feb 05 12:53
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cVNsvxI7cW (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 12:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jn9xpFeb 05 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It's Easy To Switch Between Upstart & Systemd Right Now On Ubuntu 15.04 | Tux MachinesFeb 05 12:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Major Hayden: How do you Fedora?Feb 05 18:15
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/let8KbNLdw (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 18:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jndxtFeb 05 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Major Hayden: How do you Fedora? | Tux MachinesFeb 05 18:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Preventing a DNS Leak and WebRTC Leak whenFeb 05 18:16
TweetTuxMachines                 using Tor in Linux http://t.co/XPw1EhuhC1Feb 05 18:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 18:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jndxvFeb 05 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Preventing a DNS Leak and WebRTC Leak when using Tor in Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 05 18:16
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ariendj_hello allFeb 05 18:17
ariendj_just thought i'd stop by and share some news from germanyFeb 05 18:18
ariendj_microsoft has sent out letters to 15000 companies asking for info on their licensingFeb 05 18:18
ariendj_the motto always was "let them pirate now and we'll collect later"Feb 05 18:19
ariendj_right now seems to be "later"Feb 05 18:19
ariendj_http://winfuture.de/news,85697.htmlFeb 05 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-winfuture.de | Microsoft fhrt groangelegte Lizenz-Prfung in Deutschland durch - WinFuture.deFeb 05 18:19
XRevan86ariendj_: hiFeb 05 18:25
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ariendj_good evening XRevan86Feb 05 18:32
ariendj_"In der folgenden Stufe kommen Wirtschaftsprüfer ins Spiel. Diese kontrollieren bei dem Verfahren dann, ob die Anzahl der erworbenen Microsoft-Lizenzen eines Unternehmens mit jener der vorhandenen Arbeitsplätze übereinstimmt. Treten hier Differenzen auf, wird der Software-Konzern wohl tiefer nachbohren und die betroffenen Firmen dann zur Kasse bitten."Feb 05 18:32
ariendj_My translation:Feb 05 18:32
ariendj_In the next stage financial auditors get involved. They [financial auditors] then - with this procedure - check whether the number of aquired Microsoft licenses correspond to the number of employees. If there are discrepancies the software company will investigate further and demand payment from the companies affected.Feb 05 18:32
ariendj_*corresponds toFeb 05 18:32
MinceRthey should never have used microsoft productsFeb 05 18:33
ariendj_in no way is there any consideration of the fact that there might be people working with non-ms stuffFeb 05 18:33
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ariendj_thats what irritated me the mostFeb 05 18:33
MinceRalso, microsoft believes that everything belongs to themFeb 05 18:34
MinceRfor example: Linux, the kernelFeb 05 18:34
ariendj_indeedFeb 05 18:38
ariendj_but they are all fluffy and full of love for open source nowFeb 05 18:38
ariendj_yeah rightFeb 05 18:38
MinceRand so many people believe them tooFeb 05 18:39
ariendj_the raspberry pi move they did made me sickFeb 05 18:39
ariendj_and the fact that the foundation went along with itFeb 05 18:40
MinceRdoes the foundation pay them for it too?Feb 05 18:40
MinceRor just promotion?Feb 05 18:40
ariendj_from the pr MS got for the "raspberry pi 2 runs windows" i'd speculate that MS were the ones who'd be payingFeb 05 18:41
ariendj_but i have no insightFeb 05 18:41
MinceRicFeb 05 18:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Oracle Linux Now Hosted on the Docker HubFeb 05 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Registry  http://t.co/5zVhLymVSPFeb 05 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.marketwatch.com) press release, noFeb 05 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 articles yet.Feb 05 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwatch.com | Oracle Linux Now Hosted on the Docker Hub Registry - MarketWatchFeb 05 18:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnea7Feb 05 18:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/BdRAW52KvuFeb 05 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 18:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jneabFeb 05 18:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 05 18:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why  EvolveOS could win you over to  Linux andFeb 05 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 me away from  Ubuntu http://t.co/uBoToAQeYpFeb 05 18:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techrepublic.com)Feb 05 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Why Evolve OS could win you over to Linux and me away from Ubuntu - TechRepublicFeb 05 18:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jneacFeb 05 18:49
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/business/2015/02/comcast-customer-says-she-got-a-bill-addressed-to-super-bitch/Feb 05 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Comcast customer says she got a bill addressed to “Super Bitch” | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jneb6 ]Feb 05 18:51
Sosumisuper bitch bauer:)Feb 05 18:51
Sosumistrange, now I've noticedFeb 05 18:52
Sosumiwhere is DaemonFC?Feb 05 18:52
Sosumihe used to complain about comcastFeb 05 18:53
SosumiI wander if has also received one of theseFeb 05 18:54
Sosumi*heFeb 05 18:54
MinceRhis client comes and goesFeb 05 18:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: 2015 Dell XPS 13 (9343) Running LinuxFeb 05 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7D9chvMX0qFeb 05 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.adventuresinoss.com)Feb 05 19:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnegbFeb 05 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adventuresinoss.com | Adventures in Open Source » Blog Archive » Review: 2015 Dell XPS 13 (9343) Running LinuxFeb 05 19:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux support for the Dell XPS 13 9343 (2015Feb 05 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 model) http://t.co/poLp6FmliH (major.io)Feb 05 19:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnegdFeb 05 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-major.io | Linux support for the Dell XPS 13 9343 (2015 model) - major.ioFeb 05 19:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Major Hayden: How do you Fedora?Feb 05 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dipyZqdZFH (fedoramagazine.org)Feb 05 19:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnegeFeb 05 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Major Hayden: How do you Fedora? | Fedora MagazineFeb 05 19:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Oracle Adds Oracle Linux Images to Docker HunFeb 05 19:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Registry http://t.co/GhEjK1TunoFeb 05 19:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 19:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jneljFeb 05 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle Adds Oracle Linux Images to Docker Hun Registry | Tux MachinesFeb 05 19:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why Evolve OS could win you over to Linux andFeb 05 19:24
TweetTuxMachines                 me away from Ubuntu http://t.co/sub6vDMepFFeb 05 19:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 19:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnelmFeb 05 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Evolve OS could win you over to Linux and me away from Ubuntu | Tux MachinesFeb 05 19:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: 2015 Dell XPS 13 (9343) Running LinuxFeb 05 19:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gVsFWUCF4b (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 19:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jneloFeb 05 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: 2015 Dell XPS 13 (9343) Running Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 05 19:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Replicant As A Truly Free, Blob-Less Android OSFeb 05 19:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Is Still Facing A Huge Uphill BattleFeb 05 19:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/NYGjLN60Gj (www.phoronix.com)Feb 05 19:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnes4Feb 05 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Replicant As A Truly Free, Blob-Less Android OS Is Still Facing A Huge Uphill Battle - PhoronixFeb 05 19:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HandBrake Video Transcoder Gets a Grip on LinuxFeb 05 19:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/uCdW7atzhU (www.linuxinsider.com)Feb 05 19:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnes5Feb 05 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | HandBrake Video Transcoder Gets a Grip on Linux | Reviews | LinuxInsiderFeb 05 19:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDevelop 4.7.1 Released http://t.co/hqMQ0lcAqgFeb 05 19:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (milianw.de)Feb 05 19:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnes6Feb 05 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-milianw.de | KDevelop 4.7.1 Released | Milian WolffFeb 05 19:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ownCloud Hooks Up Global Mesh Cloud forFeb 05 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Universities, ResearchersFeb 05 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/SMhsxUQBmG (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 19:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnesdFeb 05 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ownCloud Hooks Up Global Mesh Cloud for Universities, Researchers | Tux MachinesFeb 05 19:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Replicant As A Truly Free, Blob-Less Android OSFeb 05 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Is Still Facing A Huge Uphill BattleFeb 05 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6LwpTplUjH (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 19:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jneslFeb 05 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Replicant As A Truly Free, Blob-Less Android OS Is Still Facing A Huge Uphill Battle | Tux MachinesFeb 05 19:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HandBrake Video Transcoder Gets a Grip on LinuxFeb 05 19:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AMsMC2I31r (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 19:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnespFeb 05 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HandBrake Video Transcoder Gets a Grip on Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 05 19:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDevelop 4.7.1 Released http://t.co/H4L0FLHvFqFeb 05 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 19:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnesqFeb 05 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDevelop 4.7.1 Released | Tux MachinesFeb 05 19:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Which Light Weight, Open Source Web Server isFeb 05 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Right for You? http://t.co/nG8SXcNAvPFeb 05 19:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 19:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jneswFeb 05 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Which Light Weight, Open Source Web Server is Right for You? | Tux MachinesFeb 05 19:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The World’s Email Encryption Software Relies onFeb 05 20:21
TweetTuxMachines                 One Guy, Who is Going BrokeFeb 05 20:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LExPKVfQN9 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 20:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnf2vFeb 05 20:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The World’s Email Encryption Software Relies on One Guy, Who is Going Broke | Tux MachinesFeb 05 20:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ozon OS Gets GTK+ Theme Update, Still NoFeb 05 20:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Release Date for This Beautiful OSFeb 05 20:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gppU24xJLq (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnfc7Feb 05 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ozon OS Gets GTK+ Theme Update, Still No Release Date for This Beautiful OS | Tux MachinesFeb 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ozon OS Gets GTK+ Theme Update, Still NoFeb 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Release Date for This Beautiful OSFeb 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/mglDtcX9lD (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 05 20:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ozon OS Gets GTK+ Theme Update, Still No Release Date for This Beautiful OS - SoftpediaFeb 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     US Navy Builds a Stealth and Linux-PoweredFeb 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Zumwalt Class Destroyer http://t.co/mJ6zkTZKl6Feb 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | US Navy Builds a Stealth and Linux-Powered Zumwalt Class Destroyer - SoftpediaFeb 05 20:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnfc9Feb 05 20:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab BriQ rev4 Is a "Mac Mini" type PCFeb 05 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 That Runs Black Lab LinuxFeb 05 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Te6IwTZZfE (news.softpedia.com)Feb 05 20:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnfe7Feb 05 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Black Lab BriQ rev4 Is a "Mac Mini" type PC That Runs Black Lab Linux - SoftpediaFeb 05 20:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MLinux Allinone Edition 11.1 Beta Now ReadyFeb 05 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 for Testing http://t.co/nGpg8PeJw7Feb 05 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 20:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnfe8Feb 05 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux Allinone Edition 11.1 Beta Now Ready for Testing | Tux MachinesFeb 05 20:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ROV dives deep in Antarctic waters withFeb 05 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux-based cams http://t.co/15dbbGNNhwFeb 05 20:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 20:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnfeaFeb 05 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ROV dives deep in Antarctic waters with Linux-based cams | Tux MachinesFeb 05 20:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab BriQ rev4 Is a "Mac Mini" type PCFeb 05 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 That Runs Black Lab LinuxFeb 05 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RbdoTcQvA2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 21:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnfjrFeb 05 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Lab BriQ rev4 Is a "Mac Mini" type PC That Runs Black Lab Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 05 21:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab BriQ rev4 Is a "Mac Mini" type PCFeb 05 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 That Runs Black Lab LinuxFeb 05 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1FVP6uAVur (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 21:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnfjtFeb 05 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Black Lab BriQ rev4 Is a "Mac Mini" type PC That Runs Black Lab Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 05 21:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Five tweaks to make Android Lollipop evenFeb 05 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                 betterFeb 05 21:16
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/3FNZzfxqIC (www.geek.com)Feb 05 21:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnfjvFeb 05 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com | Five tweaks to make Android Lollipop even better | Android | Geek.comFeb 05 21:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     This Mechanical Keyboard Is Secretly An AndroidFeb 05 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Computer http://t.co/DvdZp0kRkY (gizmodo.com)Feb 05 21:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnfq3Feb 05 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | This Mechanical Keyboard Is Secretly An Android ComputerFeb 05 21:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Pi Glass interview http://t.co/PAFa1JsNtWFeb 05 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxuser.co.uk)Feb 05 21:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnfq4Feb 05 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Pi Glass interview | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 05 21:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     This Mechanical Keyboard Is Secretly An AndroidFeb 05 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Computer http://t.co/tk9bawpmWSFeb 05 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 21:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnfq5Feb 05 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Mechanical Keyboard Is Secretly An Android Computer | Tux MachinesFeb 05 21:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/C87j3hStJrFeb 05 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 22:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jng0vFeb 05 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 05 22:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 5/2/2015: KDevelop 4.7.1, Bodhi LinuxFeb 05 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 3.0.0 RC3 http://t.co/F49dhzN6SCFeb 05 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 05 22:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jng0wFeb 05 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/2/2015: KDevelop 4.7.1, Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 RC3 | TechrightsFeb 05 22:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/06WcI0sxwJFeb 05 22:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 05 22:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jng0xFeb 05 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 05 22:12
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schestowitz> "The new culture was: 'Anybody you could shoot.' "Feb 06 11:01
schestowitz> Feb 06 11:01
schestowitz> http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/when-cops-break-bad-albuquerque-police-force-gone-wild-20150129Feb 06 11:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | When Cops Break Bad: Albuquerque's Police Force Gone Wild | Rolling Stone [ http://ur1.ca/jnmla ]Feb 06 11:02
schestowitz> Feb 06 11:02
schestowitz> perpetuating the problem by refering to citizens as "civilians" as ifFeb 06 11:02
schestowitz> the cops were not also civilian.Feb 06 11:02
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schestowitz> http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/05/coca-cola-makeithappy-gakwer-mein-coke-hitlerFeb 06 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Coca-Cola pulls Twitter campaign after it was tricked into quoting Mein Kampf | Business | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jnnkd ]Feb 06 12:56
schestowitz> Feb 06 12:56
schestowitz> ROTFLMAO  twitter and irc in a nutshellFeb 06 12:56
XFaCEschestowitz: hahahaFeb 06 13:40
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MinceRhttp://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/05/coca-cola-makeithappy-gakwer-mein-coke-hitlerFeb 06 14:00
MinceRwhat a clusterfuckFeb 06 14:00
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XFaCEMinceR: I just wonder - do companies simply not realize that this can happen?Feb 06 14:10
MinceRapparently they're extremely naiveFeb 06 14:10
XFaCEMinceR: I mean, this is software testing 101Feb 06 14:10
MinceRthey should have spent some time on ircFeb 06 14:10
MinceRbut twitter's response is probably the worstFeb 06 14:11
XFaCEMinceR: which response?Feb 06 14:16
MinceR"I take full responsibility for not being more aggressive on this front. It’s nobody else’s fault but mine, and it’s embarrassing.Feb 06 14:16
MinceR“We’re going to start kicking these people off right and left and making sure that when they issue their ridiculous attacks, nobody hears them.”"Feb 06 14:16
XFaCEMinceR: well that's not ominous in the slightestFeb 06 14:21
MinceRindeedFeb 06 14:21
XFaCEno slippery slope there at all - nosiree bobFeb 06 14:21
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MinceRhttp://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/02/05/a-very-disturbing-and-powerful-post-get-your-loved-ones-off-facebook/Feb 06 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libertyblitzkrieg.com | A Very Disturbing and Powerful Post – “Get Your Loved Ones Off Facebook” | Liberty Blitzkrieg [ http://ur1.ca/jnq2p ]Feb 06 16:56
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DaemonFCRyan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 06 18:15
DaemonFCJust now · Feb 06 18:15
DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/story/opinion/columnists/erika-smith/2015/02/04/smith-real-cost-silly-bills-indiana-general-assembly/22881753/?fb_action_ids=312321712311200&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 06 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indystar.com | Smith: The real cost of silly bills in the Indiana General Assembly [ http://ur1.ca/jnqtz ]Feb 06 18:15
DaemonFCWhy be concerned about the "Office of Marriage Promotion?" Well, aside from the Nazi-esque ring to the name of it.... How many Reichsmarks will Indiana give to newlyweds, and will having four kids in Bible School pay off the loan?Feb 06 18:15
MinceRlolFeb 06 18:15
MinceRonly if there are no kids outside Bible SchoolFeb 06 18:18
MinceRdeviations are not tolerated.Feb 06 18:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The mobile market is saturated." But ubuntuFeb 06 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 has a plan http://t.co/EkDNXyt9jrFeb 06 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.fastcompany.com) cleverFeb 06 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fastcompany.com | The First Ubuntu Phone Won't Rely On Apps. Here's Why That's Brilliant | Fast Company | Business + InnovationFeb 06 18:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnr6uFeb 06 18:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Calibre 2.19 eBook Editor and Converter GetsFeb 06 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Interface Improvements http://t.co/sBfspKEfZrFeb 06 18:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 06 18:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calibre 2.19 eBook Editor and Converter Gets Interface Improvements - SoftpediaFeb 06 18:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnr6vFeb 06 18:52
MinceRhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CrunchBang-Linux-No-MoreFeb 06 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | CrunchBang Is The Latest Linux Distribution Calling It Quits - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/jnrdo ]Feb 06 19:12
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MinceRalso, facepalmsFeb 06 19:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Global Shortcuts and the Lock ScreenFeb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/P4j7T2hx8h (error)Feb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrh1Feb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Free Telegram for Ubuntu Touch App Lands in theFeb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Store http://t.co/VlzeLtntJOFeb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) "Telegram’s turn to landFeb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 in the Ubuntu Store."Feb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrizFeb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CrunchBang Is The Latest Linux DistributionFeb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 Calling It Quits http://t.co/ZIFzpZY95IFeb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrj0Feb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "2015 has been a great year for GNU/Linux onFeb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 the desktop in India.| http://t.co/wCbhfasijAFeb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines                 (mrpogson.com) figures based on unnamed sitesFeb 06 19:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrj1Feb 06 19:28
*TweetTuxMachines @rmsthebot favourited '"2015 has been a great year for GNU/Linux...'Feb 06 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failure when receiving data from the peer ( status 0 @ http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/02/global-shortcuts-and-the-lock-screen/ )Feb 06 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Free Telegram for Ubuntu App Lands in the Phone Store - SoftpediaFeb 06 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Milestone: India Reaches 2% Share Of GNU/Linux Page-views | Robert PogsonFeb 06 19:30
TweetTuxMachines@REALMattRichie  @CrunchBang Is The Latest Linux DistributionFeb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Calling It Quits http://t.co/kN8PPUOfSvFeb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) | via @tuxmachinesFeb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrnoFeb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Install DigiKam 4.7.0 On Ubuntu/LinuxFeb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Mint And Ubuntu Based DistributionsFeb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RANESMEXWr (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrnpFeb 06 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Install DigiKam 4.7.0 On Ubuntu/Linux Mint And Ubuntu Based Distributions | Tux MachinesFeb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The First Ubuntu Phone Won't Rely On Apps.Feb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Here's Why That's BrilliantFeb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rHHcyKuQOC (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 19:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrnwFeb 06 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The First Ubuntu Phone Won't Rely On Apps. Here's Why That's Brilliant | Tux MachinesFeb 06 19:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Global Shortcuts and the Lock ScreenFeb 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6xvdNQw6vr (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrvuFeb 06 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Global Shortcuts and the Lock Screen | Tux MachinesFeb 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CrunchBang Is The Latest Linux DistributionFeb 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Calling It Quits http://t.co/5FtZQyudf2Feb 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrvvFeb 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Legalese and coding? Yup, it's the open-sourceFeb 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 FOSDEM shindig http://t.co/jeqFKWcRyqFeb 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CrunchBang Is The Latest Linux Distribution Calling It Quits | Tux MachinesFeb 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrvwFeb 06 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Legalese and coding? Yup, it's the open-source FOSDEM shindig | Tux MachinesFeb 06 20:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The death of CrunchBang LinuxFeb 06 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/N3gxLIptuH (www.itworld.com)Feb 06 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/d6XSeDoxzU (fossforce.com)Feb 06 20:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrzkFeb 06 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | The death of CrunchBang Linux | ITworldFeb 06 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | CrunchBang Development Halted | FOSS ForceFeb 06 20:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Survey says: KDE Plasma is the most popularFeb 06 20:12
TweetTuxMachines                 desktop Linux environmentFeb 06 20:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Sd8PezErCM (www.itworld.com)Feb 06 20:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnrzmFeb 06 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Survey says: KDE Plasma is the most popular desktop Linux environment | ITworldFeb 06 20:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 0.8.12 released https://t.co/jcn2pd7MmHFeb 06 20:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (manjaro.github.io)Feb 06 20:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnsgbFeb 06 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro 0.8.12 released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicityFeb 06 20:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xiaomi’s MIUI 6 OS adds style and function toFeb 06 20:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Android http://t.co/eu4pFUyG9z (thenextweb.com)Feb 06 20:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnsgcFeb 06 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Xiaomi's MIUI 6 OS Adds Style and Function To AndroidFeb 06 20:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Survey says: KDE Plasma is the most popularFeb 06 20:54
TweetTuxMachines                 desktop Linux environmentFeb 06 20:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AiiucUHoZT (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 20:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnsgkFeb 06 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Survey says: KDE Plasma is the most popular desktop Linux environment | Tux MachinesFeb 06 20:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is the iPhone really better than AndroidFeb 06 20:55
TweetTuxMachines                 phones? http://t.co/tSmN9WydhWFeb 06 20:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 20:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnsgoFeb 06 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is the iPhone really better than Android phones? | Tux MachinesFeb 06 20:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 0.8.12 released http://t.co/9pfdKKSDrbFeb 06 20:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 20:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnsgpFeb 06 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 0.8.12 released | Tux MachinesFeb 06 20:55
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Sosumilol the iphone is hands down better than any android device out thereFeb 06 21:10
Sosumiat bendingFeb 06 21:10
Sosumior at having reception issuesFeb 06 21:10
Sosumilike it happened when apple launched the iphone 4Feb 06 21:11
MinceRif you include staying bentFeb 06 21:16
MinceRthe LG G Flex easily beats them at bending without permanent damage :>Feb 06 21:17
MinceRi wonder if the hypePhone 6 still includes an antenna the user grabsFeb 06 21:18
MinceRthey just left it in and added an internal one when they hacked the hypePhone 5 togetherFeb 06 21:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Two things I’ve learned from using Tor BrowserFeb 06 22:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/37tKmlTxES (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 22:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnt9xFeb 06 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Two things I’ve learned from using Tor Browser | Tux MachinesFeb 06 22:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MIPS Creator C120 development board and DebianFeb 06 22:04
TweetTuxMachines                 7 http://t.co/nnc4cF3Zps (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 22:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnta1Feb 06 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MIPS Creator C120 development board and Debian 7 | Tux MachinesFeb 06 22:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "2015 has been a great year for GNU/Linux onFeb 06 22:04
TweetTuxMachines                 the desktop in India.| http://t.co/wCbhfasijAFeb 06 22:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (mrpogson.com) figures based on unnamed sitesFeb 06 22:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnta2Feb 06 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Milestone: India Reaches 2% Share Of GNU/Linux Page-views | Robert PogsonFeb 06 22:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     FSF JavaScript guidelines picked up by PosteoFeb 06 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Webmail http://t.co/GAgDe4zsXnFeb 06 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 23:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jntxgFeb 06 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FSF JavaScript guidelines picked up by Posteo Webmail | Tux MachinesFeb 06 23:02
*TweetTuxMachines @MalcolmTrimnell favourited 'FSF JavaScript guidelines picked up by Posteo Webmail...'Feb 06 23:02
cubexyzMinceR, it's got usb, powervr gpu, dedicated video hardware for video codecs, infared, jtag, HDMI connector, and comes with 5V power supplyFeb 06 23:07
cubexyzalso SD cardFeb 06 23:07
cubexyzruns Debian 7, Gentoo, Yocto, and other Linux distrosFeb 06 23:08
cubexyzalso there's some 14 pin connector, not sure what that isFeb 06 23:12
cubexyzah, that's the ETAG connectorFeb 06 23:12
cubexyz90 mm x 95 mmFeb 06 23:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNU C Library 2.21 Released With Bug & SecurityFeb 06 23:20
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Fixes http://t.co/C9jX5EEezIFeb 06 23:21
TweetTuxMachines @iArthurCDN     (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 23:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnu48Feb 06 23:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Today, 6 February, is the third birthday ofFeb 06 23:21
cubexyzit's actually CI20, not C120Feb 06 23:21
TweetTuxMachines                 the Lumicall app for secure SIP on Android."Feb 06 23:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/bFMao8jo4F (danielpocock.com)Feb 06 23:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnu49Feb 06 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielpocock.com | Lumicall's 3rd Birthday | DanielPocock.comFeb 06 23:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Divinity: Original Sin Is Pushing Ahead For TheFeb 06 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Release https://t.co/Tt93JdklggFeb 06 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) "confirmed the LinuxFeb 06 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 version"Feb 06 23:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnu6hFeb 06 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Divinity: Original Sin Is Pushing Ahead For The Linux Release | GamingOnLinuxFeb 06 23:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is the iPhone really better than AndroidFeb 06 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 phones? http://t.co/Yj88qPjSBZ (jimlynch.com)Feb 06 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 the brand more 'valuable' maybeFeb 06 23:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnu6jFeb 06 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com | Is the iPhone really better than Android phones? – Jim LynchFeb 06 23:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MIPS Creator C120 development board and DebianFeb 06 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 7 http://t.co/mynREDChaW (www.linuxbsdos.com)Feb 06 23:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnu6kFeb 06 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxbsdos.com | MIPS Creator C120 development board and Debian 7 | LinuxBSDos.comFeb 06 23:26
cubexyzhere's a good description of CI20:Feb 06 23:28
cubexyzhttp://elinux.org/CI20_Hardware#Tech_Spec_overview Feb 06 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elinux.org | CI20 Hardware - eLinux.org [ http://ur1.ca/jnu73 ]Feb 06 23:28
cubexyzone sticking point... not sure we have open source drivers for powervr as yetFeb 06 23:34
MinceRpowervr sucksFeb 06 23:35
cubexyzwhy is that?Feb 06 23:35
MinceRbecause they refuse to provide free software drivers for their overrated gpusFeb 06 23:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Launch Delayed by Two WeeksFeb 06 23:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VHxFmqIAMG (news.softpedia.com)Feb 06 23:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnuibFeb 06 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Launch Delayed by Two Weeks - SoftpediaFeb 06 23:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The first Tizen smartphone isn’t an “AndroidFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines                 killer”—it’s a bad Android cloneFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ImzOD1PMmC (arstechnica.com)Feb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnuidFeb 06 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | The first Tizen smartphone isn’t an “Android killer”—it’s a bad Android clone | Ars TechnicaFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 6/2/2015: CrunchBang Linux Ends, UbuntuFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Phone From BQ http://t.co/ozcL88vU39Feb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnuieFeb 06 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/2/2015: CrunchBang Linux Ends, Ubuntu Phone From BQ | TechrightsFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 21 Cinnamon Desktop : Video Overview andFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Screenshot Tours http://t.co/dKXKkaEvChFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnuiiFeb 06 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 21 Cinnamon Desktop : Video Overview and Screenshot Tours | Tux MachinesFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xiaomi’s MIUI 6 OS adds style and function toFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Android http://t.co/kgBbUvPMUVFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnuirFeb 06 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xiaomi’s MIUI 6 OS adds style and function to Android | Tux MachinesFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/rM2NxnJCR6Feb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnuiuFeb 06 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/djpINfooPsFeb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 06 23:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnuiwFeb 06 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 06 23:56
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MinceRgnFeb 07 00:51
DaemonFC`http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/your_questions/our_food/why-doesnt-your-food-rot.htmlFeb 07 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mcdonalds.com | Why doesn’t your food rot? :: McDonalds.com [ http://ur1.ca/jnvd1 ]Feb 07 01:18
cubexyzI have some excellent adviceFeb 07 01:23
cubexyzdon't eat at McDonaldsFeb 07 01:24
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XFaCEcubexyz: or any fast food restaurant reallyFeb 07 05:23
XFaCEcubexyz: although I could never understand the visual appeal of McDonald's hamburgers even - they look really disgustingFeb 07 05:23
XFaCEat least nowadaysFeb 07 05:23
XFaCEmaybe the older ads made them look betterFeb 07 05:24
cubexyzactually they were just as bad in the 1970sFeb 07 05:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/e8tFDBgJOOFeb 07 07:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 07:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnyo7Feb 07 07:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 07 07:00
cubexyzXFaCE, but at least in the 70s the prices were better:Feb 07 07:02
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/mcdonalds-1970s.jpgFeb 07 07:02
cubexyza big mac in canada costs $4.64 averageFeb 07 07:04
cubexyzthat's inflation for youFeb 07 07:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wireless Raspberry Pi print server Feb 07 08:13
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/FD33UPEQej (www.linuxuser.co.uk)Feb 07 08:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzbbFeb 07 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Wireless Raspberry Pi print server | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 07 08:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04.2 Has Been Rescheduled For TheFeb 07 08:14
TweetTuxMachines                 19th of February. Ubuntu 12.04 Receives AFeb 07 08:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Update http://t.co/E0WDoiZlK8Feb 07 08:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxg.net)Feb 07 08:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzbcFeb 07 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | Ubuntu 14.04.2 Has Been Rescheduled For The 19th of February. Ubuntu 12.04 Receives A Kernel Update | LinuxG.netFeb 07 08:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Opera 28 Beta Released With Sync BookmarksFeb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Features, Mac Improvements And More, Install InFeb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu/Linux Mint &... http://t.co/TopWYlfII9Feb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzcxFeb 07 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Opera 28 Beta Released With Sync Bookmarks Features, Mac Improvements And More, Install In Ubuntu/Linux Mint & Ubuntu Derivatives | Tux MachinesFeb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cisco Helping Advance Open Source in NetworkingFeb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ru17ap01Gt (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzczFeb 07 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cisco Helping Advance Open Source in Networking | Tux MachinesFeb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04.2 Has Been Rescheduled For TheFeb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 19th of February. Ubuntu 12.04 Receives AFeb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel Update http://t.co/YGU1p4WIaEFeb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzd0Feb 07 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 14.04.2 Has Been Rescheduled For The 19th of February. Ubuntu 12.04 Receives A Kernel Update | Tux MachinesFeb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A new batch of stable kernelsFeb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/p6ZyahB4OR (lwn.net)Feb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzd3Feb 07 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | A new batch of stable kernels [LWN.net]Feb 07 08:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     [Hack] Accessing the Tizen Store for theFeb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Samsung Z1 SM-Z130H/DS http://t.co/oPXZgpBm02Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzjaFeb 07 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | [Hack] Accessing the Tizen Store for the Samsung Z1 SM-Z130H/DS - Tizen ExpertsFeb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exclusive: Seafile Founder Daniel Pan TalksFeb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 About His Open Source Cloud SoftwareFeb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GiJmV02uKc (www.linux.com)Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzjdFeb 07 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Exclusive: Seafile Founder Daniel Pan Talks About His Open Source Cloud Software | Linux.comFeb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Material Design + Linux = PapyrOS, Coming soonFeb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 to a desktop near you! http://t.co/eCSgkxrAUSFeb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techdrivein.com)Feb 07 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techdrivein.com | Material Design + Linux = PapyrOS, Coming soon to a desktop near you!Feb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzjeFeb 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Android Tablets [February, 2015]Feb 07 08:53
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/m0NQwdhsIt (www.gottabemobile.com)Feb 07 08:53
TweetTuxMachines                 5 Best Android Phones http://t.co/TDTgAJhzYiFeb 07 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Android 5.1 Lollipop Update: 5 Things You Need to KnowFeb 07 08:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gottabemobile.com)Feb 07 08:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzn9Feb 07 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | 5 Best Android Phones [February, 2015]Feb 07 08:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2 vs Creator 120Feb 07 08:53
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TayCPzk37R (www.linuxbsdos.com)Feb 07 08:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnznaFeb 07 08:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxbsdos.com | Raspberry Pi 2 vs Creator 120 | LinuxBSDos.comFeb 07 08:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 Best Android Phones [February, 2015]Feb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/06t5rlSR8D (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzndFeb 07 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Best Android Phones [February, 2015] | Tux MachinesFeb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Material Design + Linux = PapyrOS, Coming soonFeb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines                 to a desktop near you! http://t.co/lGsDoMfMyZFeb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnznfFeb 07 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Material Design + Linux = PapyrOS, Coming soon to a desktop near you! | Tux MachinesFeb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2 vs Creator 120Feb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GnMMkPooFt (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzngFeb 07 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 2 vs Creator 120 | Tux MachinesFeb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     4MLinux 11.1 Delivers Maintenance, Miniserver,Feb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Multimedia and Mystery http://t.co/6Wo1qTaANIFeb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzniFeb 07 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 11.1 Delivers Maintenance, Miniserver, Multimedia and Mystery | Tux MachinesFeb 07 08:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exclusive: Pivotal CEO says open source HadoopFeb 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 tech is coming http://t.co/YAjjbUIvxSFeb 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzzgFeb 07 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exclusive: Pivotal CEO says open source Hadoop tech is coming | Tux MachinesFeb 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mesa 10.4.4 Released http://t.co/A6firXCG0OFeb 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzzkFeb 07 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mesa 10.4.4 Released - PhoronixFeb 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Can Open-Source Voting Tech Fix The U.S.Feb 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Elections System? http://t.co/l8l51AUaOyFeb 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jnzzmFeb 07 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can Open-Source Voting Tech Fix The U.S. Elections System? | Tux MachinesFeb 07 09:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5540031Feb 07 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "It's not that the United States can't afford to keep supporting its elderly" http://fair.org/blog/2015/02/04/we-could-keep-government-small-if-only-the-old-werent-getting-so-much-healthcare/Feb 07 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fair.org | We Could Keep Government Small if Only the Old Weren't Getting So Much Healthcare [ http://ur1.ca/jo02a ]Feb 07 09:38
schestowitz"Feb 07 09:38
schestowitzSo what's the solution? Soylent green?Feb 07 09:38
schestowitzI have a better idea: if the US outsources to Cuba its healthcare and pays Cuba at least half of what the US is spending now, everyone might be happy.Feb 07 09:38
schestowitz"Feb 07 09:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5540550Feb 07 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/csoghoian/status/563099732772683777Feb 07 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@csoghoian: Top lawyer at @ODNIgov Bob Litt doubles down on crypto backdoors. http://t.co/rPGx8PI6mV http://t.co/JwAtGCclRVFeb 07 09:39
schestowitz""I'm not a locksmith, but I am an optimist: I believe that if our facilities and watchmen put their mind to it, they will find a solution that does not compromise the integrity of keyhole technology but enables both locking to protect privacy and unlocking under lawful authority to protect neighborhood transparency.""Feb 07 09:39
schestowitz"lol"Feb 07 09:39
schestowitzlol here tooFeb 07 09:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5549192Feb 07 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Senator #Wyden Follows Up With #EricHolder On All Of The Requests The DOJ Has Totally Ignored https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150204/05522629903/senator-wyden-follows-up-with-eric-holder-all-requests-doj-has-totally-ignored.shtmlFeb 07 09:39
cubexyzwe're getting close to Soylent Green, only 7 more years :)Feb 07 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Senator Wyden Follows Up With Eric Holder On All Of The Requests The DOJ Has Totally Ignored | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/jo02o ]Feb 07 09:39
schestowitz"If I could have Senator Wydens baby, I would."Feb 07 09:39
cubexyzusually science fiction gets it wrong thoughFeb 07 09:40
cubexyzeither too optimistic or too pessimisticFeb 07 09:40
cubexyzbut they got some of it right in Soylent GreenFeb 07 09:41
cubexyzpollution? checkFeb 07 09:41
cubexyzoverpopulation? checkFeb 07 09:41
cubexyzdepleted resources? not quite there yetFeb 07 09:41
cubexyzpoverty? checkFeb 07 09:42
cubexyzdying oceans? checkFeb 07 09:42
cubexyzone of the reasons I talk about reusing older things, to save resourcesFeb 07 09:43
cubexyzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation#mediaviewer/File:Population_curve.svgFeb 07 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Human overpopulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jo04d ]Feb 07 09:44
cubexyzI mean, there's non-renewables...Feb 07 09:45
cubexyzmetal ores, fossil fuels...Feb 07 09:45
cubexyzsometimes I can't believe people won't even think about this stuffFeb 07 09:48
cubexyzlet's see.. about 50% of the world's oxygen comes from the oceanFeb 07 09:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5548976Feb 07 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: U.S. official: "No coincidence" Islamic State victims in Guantanamo-like jumpsuits http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/05/us-usa-guantanamo-congress-islamicstate-idUSKBN0L91YF20150205 #tortureFeb 07 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reuters.com | U.S. official: No coincidence Islamic State victims in Guantanamo-like jumpsuits | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/jo06j ]Feb 07 09:50
schestowitz"The US is the benchmark to follow, they're exceptional after all."Feb 07 09:50
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5540607Feb 07 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: UK Spent More on 'Guarding' Assange than Iraq War Inquiry http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/UK-Spent-More-on-Guarding-Assange-than-Iraq-War-Inquiry-20150205-0006.html #wikileaks #iraqFeb 07 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telesurtv.net | UK Spent More Money 'Guarding' Assange than on Iraq War Probe | News | teleSUR [ http://ur1.ca/jo06p ]Feb 07 09:51
schestowitz"Feb 07 09:51
schestowitzInteresting they claim exemption under section 24 (National Security clause) over a case of allegations of sexual misconduct.Feb 07 09:51
schestowitzHope they devote as much time, money and effort into other sex crimes like the pedophiles and those that covered it up within their government.Feb 07 09:51
schestowitz"Feb 07 09:51
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5551362Feb 07 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols: "We're addicted to Adobe Flash" Who's "we"? It mostly runs annoying ads now. http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-get-rid-of-adobe-flash-and-its-endless-security-holes/ @sjvnFeb 07 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Fed up with Adobe Flash? Make it safer | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jo07r ]Feb 07 09:54
schestowitz"After reading about the latest security issues I disabled Flash. I prefer ti use Vimeo anyway and turned on HTML5 in YouTube. Good ridance!"Feb 07 09:54
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5546290Feb 07 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Newest Reforms on SIGINT Collection Still Leave Loopholes http://justsecurity.org/19665/newest-reforms-sigint-collection-leave-plenty-loopholes/ goal is not really to limit anything substantialFeb 07 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> justsecurity.org | The Newest Reforms on SIGINT Collection Still Leave Loopholes | Just Security [ http://ur1.ca/jo08m ]Feb 07 09:58
schestowitz"I'm shocked"Feb 07 09:58
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5549918Feb 07 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Two things I’ve learned from using Tor Browser http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2015/02/06/two-things-ive-learned-from-using-tor-browser/ #tor #privacy #anonymity #freeswFeb 07 09:58
schestowitz"I really hope never enabling JavaScript is one of them, along with ditching all websites that won't run without it. Heh."Feb 07 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxbsdos.com | Two things I've learned from using Tor Browser | LinuxBSDos.com [ http://ur1.ca/jo08y ]Feb 07 09:58
schestowitz"I don't enable Javascript, messes up my computer"Feb 07 09:58
schestowitzYes, but some sites still require it for essential functions, such as webformsFeb 07 09:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5551449Feb 07 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: not very helpful... ![not very helpful...](http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/142326823822949_tall.jpg) ![not very helpful...](http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/142326823073453_tall.jpg) #timetravel #timetravelers #agents #failed #carculture #driving #railing #cliff #death #cause #comicFeb 07 10:02
schestowitz"A wonderful metaphor for bureaucracy."Feb 07 10:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mesa 10.4.4 Released | Tux MachinesFeb 07 10:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Can Android One prove successful?Feb 07 10:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Friday Debate: Can Android One prove successful?Feb 07 10:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New TV commercial yet for AndroidFeb 07 10:08
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/564008334488268800Feb 07 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Poor puppies RT @schestowitz: Associated Press (AP) painting #nsa as a victim. http://t.co/izIUfTCbSLFeb 07 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> phys.org | Cyber-attacks rising in Utah, likely due to NSA facility (Update)Feb 07 10:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Wireless Raspberry Pi print server | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 07 11:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5549936Feb 07 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: The first Tizen smartphone isn’t an “Android killer”—it’s a bad Android clone http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/samsung-z1-review-the-first-tizen-smartphone-still-feels-like-plan-b/Feb 07 12:26
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schestowitz"Double ouch."Feb 07 12:26
msb_schestowitz: How does Javascript mess up your computer?Feb 07 12:26
schestowitz"Perhaps but what about the boon to new (and old) businesses that now compete to protect privacy?"Feb 07 12:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5551792Feb 07 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Crocodile tears for companies that violated people's #privacy and may now have to pay for it http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1241467-snowdens-nsa-spying-revelations-could-cost-us-businesses-more-than-200-billion/Feb 07 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theepochtimes.com | Snowden's NSA Spying Revelations Could Cost US Businesses More Than $200 Billion [ http://ur1.ca/jo1kx ]Feb 07 12:26
schestowitzZero-sum gameFeb 07 12:26
schestowitzmsb_: someone else wrote itFeb 07 12:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5551956Feb 07 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #GCHQ has acted illegally – politicians can’t pretend it's business as usual http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/gchq-has-acted-illegally--politicians-cant-pretend-its-business-as-usual-10029998.html no prosecution?Feb 07 12:27
schestowitz"Sorry, democracy is not available in your country."Feb 07 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.independent.co.uk | GCHQ has acted illegally – politicians can’t pretend it's business as usual - Comment - Voices - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/jo1l5 ]Feb 07 12:27
schestowitzTell the Americans, maybe they can re-invade usFeb 07 12:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5551949Feb 07 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "64% [of journalists] believe that the US government has probably collected data about their communications." http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/06/investigative-journalists-mass-surveillance-nsa-edward-snowdenFeb 07 12:28
schestowitz""So 36% of the journalists are complete idiots?Feb 07 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | How have journalists responded to revelations of mass surveillance? | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jo1l8 ]Feb 07 12:28
schestowitz"@juh true !!!!!! :)"Feb 07 12:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5549111Feb 07 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The privatization of America's wars swells the ranks of armies for hire across the globe." http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/a-blackwater-world-order/ greed and murderFeb 07 12:28
schestowitz"when you own the printing press, anything goes."Feb 07 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theamericanconservative.com | A Blackwater World Order | The American Conservative [ http://ur1.ca/jo1lf ]Feb 07 12:28
cubexyz1st hand experience is the best Feb 07 12:33
cubexyzI'd like to see PX02991.pdf if possibleFeb 07 12:41
cubexyzah, slated has itFeb 07 12:41
cubexyzthat file is referenced all over the netFeb 07 13:08
cubexyzhere's another juicy tidbit:Feb 07 13:09
cubexyz"Our mission is to establish Microsoft's platforms as the de facto standards throughout the computer industry. Our enemies are the vendors of platforms that compete with ours: Netscape, Sun, IBM, Oracle, Lotus, etc. platforms as the de facto standards throughout the computer industry. Our enemies are the vendors of platforms that compete with ours: Netscape, Sun, IBM, Oracle, Lotus, etc.ur mission is to establish Microsoft?s platforms as the de facto stFeb 07 13:11
cubexyzandard"Feb 07 13:11
cubexyzoopsFeb 07 13:11
cubexyzOur mission is to establish Microsoft?s platforms as the de facto standards throughout the computer industry. Our enemies are the vendors of platforms that compete with ours: Netscape, Sun, IBM, Oracle, Lotus, etc.Feb 07 13:11
cubexyzof course, their "enemies" are a bit different nowFeb 07 13:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/564049109036695552Feb 07 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: #FuckGCHQ RT @schestowitz British spies tell German MPs to back off http://t.co/852ak3zs1x #arrogance #gchq #germanyFeb 07 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thelocal.de | British spies tell German MPs to back off - The LocalFeb 07 13:13
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/secrets__lies/status/564049428106186752Feb 07 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@secrets__lies: @schestowitz Yup, cost me 16p so far. And what's it got to do with UKGov? The courts, quite rightly, upheld #Assange EAWFeb 07 13:16
schestowitzit's a political decisionFeb 07 13:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/EnGlobalNewsW/status/564052162700115969Feb 07 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EnGlobalNewsW: @schestowitz WH seems content on following http://t.co/9KLOUUUc0fFeb 07 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Senator Richard Burr: White House seems content on following - YouTubeFeb 07 13:25
schestowitzBurr is a boorFeb 07 13:26
schestowitzhttp://www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/Which-side-are-the-Americans-on-30253404.htmlFeb 07 13:39
schestowitz"Feb 07 13:39
schestowitz It would be most revealing to know whether Thai military intelligence is getting surveillance information from the US National Security Agency. As we know, the NSA is able to snap up almost everything, which presumably includes communications from abroad that constitute interference in domestic Thai politics. So, did Thai military intelligence receive surveillance information from the NSA during last year's rallies - especially Feb 07 13:39
schestowitzcommunications from Dubai about Thailand's internal politics?Feb 07 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nationmultimedia.com | Which side are the Americans on? - The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/jo273 ]Feb 07 13:39
schestowitzIf Thai military intelligence actually lacks this kind of information on interference from foreign soil, it tells us all we need to know about the so-called friendship between the US and Thailand.Feb 07 13:39
schestowitz"Feb 07 13:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/agente_smithe/status/564065493586546688Feb 07 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@agente_smithe: @schestowitz Take a look http://t.co/inwAEp04Dv I would not have written better...Feb 07 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxito.com | El bazar se ha convertido en catedralFeb 07 14:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/564069933567721472Feb 07 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz: Let's just call all who are killed "militants" http://t.co/4NyU9WCg3Q because it carries an association with guiltFeb 07 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> horseedmedia.net | Drone strikes kill at least ‘45 militants’ in SomaliaFeb 07 14:37
XRevan86#1: "Don't militant me!"  #2: "I am not afraid to die, I am afraid of being a militant."Feb 07 14:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/secrets__lies/status/564070964208889857Feb 07 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@secrets__lies: @schestowitz Absolute rubbish! So Gov can tell the court ref #Assanfe, but can't get court to extradite terrorists it wants out ???Feb 07 14:42
schestowitzI think you need to revisit articles from 2011-12Feb 07 14:42
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/564074621964529664Feb 07 14:58
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5546537Feb 07 18:21
schestowitz"Indeed. And the ideals engraved upon said statue are just lip service."Feb 07 18:21
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/564126949153320960Feb 07 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Monterey, California ?Feb 07 18:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/564142183792803841Feb 07 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BradMossEsq: @RichardKeppler1 @MarkSZaidEsq @schestowitz @JesselynRadack Do you just ignore the parts where that allegation has been denied?Feb 07 19:24
schestowitzI guess we'll never knowFeb 07 19:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/564125801541402625  https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/564126949153320960Feb 07 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Hmmm... http://t.co/Qh50eVqQVn seems to have disappeared since last night. Any buzz ?Feb 07 19:27
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MinceRhttp://www.politics.hu/20150206/quotable-controversial-tycoon-lajos-simicska-on-his-estranged-patron-viktor-orban/Feb 07 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.politics.hu | Quotable: Controversial tycoon Lajos Simicska on his estranged patron, Viktor Orbán | Politics.hu [ http://ur1.ca/jo5e1 ]Feb 07 19:30
MinceR'oligarch' would be more accurate than 'tycoon' thoughFeb 07 19:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Korora 21 available | Tux MachinesFeb 07 21:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     9-Way Linux Laptop Performance Comparison FromFeb 07 21:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Intel Nehalem To BroadwellFeb 07 21:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9-Way Linux Laptop Performance Comparison From Intel Nehalem To Broadwell | Tux MachinesFeb 07 21:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro 0.8.12 KDE Screenshot TourFeb 07 22:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 0.8.12 KDE Screenshot Tour | Tux MachinesFeb 07 22:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wine (Wine is not an emulator) 1.7.36 GivesFeb 07 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Users Control over SpeakersFeb 07 22:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine (Wine is not an emulator) 1.7.36 Gives Users Control over Speakers | Tux MachinesFeb 07 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch GTK+ Apps Running in Unity 8, on UbuntuFeb 07 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 15.04 http://t.co/7zbchUgFetFeb 07 22:02
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DaemonFCMinceR, Yesterday was Ronald Reagan's birthday.Feb 07 22:05
DaemonFCI hear that they celebrated with a trickle down layer cake. A little bit of really rich frosting on the top with not a lot in the middle and a really poor bottom.Feb 07 22:05
MinceR:>Feb 07 22:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.christophersmart.com | Korora 21 available « the blog of ChrisFeb 07 22:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     9-Way Linux Laptop Performance Comparison FromFeb 07 22:22
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msb_DaemonFC: Thanks for the Canada Song!Feb 01 01:03
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DaemonFCRyan Farmer shared Blue Nation Review's photo.Feb 01 02:37
DaemonFC1 min · Feb 01 02:37
DaemonFCI've always wondered this. If Christianity and Islam are inherently peaceful, then why are the extreme examples of both so violent? You would expect the extreme example of a peaceful religion to be extremely peaceful. Would you not?Feb 01 02:37
msb_Judaism, Christianity and Islam have all ordered people to worship an undetectable (and non-existent) "god", and told them to murder anyone who wouldn't worship the god.  All three are male-supremacist, and Judaism and Islam do genital mutilation, which causes deep-seated personality problems.  The fact is, all these religions are based on psychopathy, and are very injurious to people and human society.  The claim that they are "Feb 01 04:08
msb_peaceful" is simply a Big Lie.Feb 01 04:08
msb_http://www.evilbible.com/Feb 01 04:10
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msb_The JCI religions were either designed from their beginning as means for controlling and thus exploiting people, or were rapidly adapted to that purpose by dominating organized psychopaths.Feb 01 04:14
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schestowitzmorning...Feb 01 10:24
XRevan86GreetingsFeb 01 10:25
schestowitzwriting some blogs now..Feb 01 10:26
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DaemonFCRyan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 01 13:51
DaemonFCJust now · Feb 01 13:51
DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/02/01/indianas-vaccination-rate-high-enough-keep-measles/22550735/?fb_action_ids=310763359133702&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 01 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indystar.com | Is Indiana's vaccination rate high enough to keep out measles? [ http://ur1.ca/jlzyp ]Feb 01 13:51
DaemonFCPeople with religious objections should move to a third world country to die of their 19th century diseases and leave the rest of us the hell alone. I don't want their filth near me!Feb 01 13:51
MinceRisn't it their divine right to serve as grounds for pathogens to replicate and mutate in? :>Feb 01 13:52
XRevan86People with religion should move to a third world country to die for their medieval beliefs and leave the rest of us the hell alone. I don't want their filth near me!Feb 01 13:52
MinceR(also to cross with other strains)Feb 01 13:53
DaemonFChttp://www.gallup.com/poll/181271/obesity-rate-inches-2014.aspxFeb 01 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gallup.com | U.S. Obesity Rate Inches Up to 27.7% in 2014 [ http://ur1.ca/jm00o ]Feb 01 13:58
DaemonFCI hate it when the news talks about obesity while showing footage of fat peoples butts as they walk around.Feb 01 13:59
MinceR:>Feb 01 13:59
cubexyzaspx ewww :)Feb 01 14:01
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5512303Feb 01 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Drop the disguise: your metadata still gives you away." http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26879-just-four-credit-card-clues-can-identify-anyone.html #facebook #google #microsoft #appleFeb 01 15:27
schestowitz"This is kinda why #BitCoin, the psuedo-anonymous crypto-currency, is so dangerous. I'm hoping the #zerocoin protocol (or something in the same spirit) is figured out"Feb 01 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newscientist.com | Just four credit card clues can identify anyone - tech - 29 January 2015 - New Scientist [ http://ur1.ca/jm0tj ]Feb 01 15:27
schestowitzDid it ever claim to be anonymous? Bitcoin was never marketed as such, was it?Feb 01 15:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5512828Feb 01 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Al-Qaeda and ISIS are products of US and Saudi imperialism." https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/01/united-states-saudi-arabia-isis/ byproducts maybe.Feb 01 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.jacobinmag.com | Don’t Blame Islam | Jacobin [ http://ur1.ca/jm0uc ]Feb 01 15:29
schestowitz"Hey, I was driving down your street last night at midnight, and couldn't help but notice someone emptying that jar of termites onto your house... You know, I happen to run an extermination business..."Feb 01 15:29
schestowitzSomething like that...Feb 01 15:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5516901Feb 01 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Trolls in #twitter may actually get paid http://www.channel4.com/news/british-army-military-social-media-unit-twitter-troopsFeb 01 15:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.channel4.com | British Army unveils 'Twitter troops' for social media fight - Channel 4 News [ http://ur1.ca/jm0uy ]Feb 01 15:31
schestowitz"I've long suspected that 4chan is a collection of psyop (for both social-engineering, and experimentation) to manipulate young adults and ratchet up the atomization of society. Setting trends, shaping worldviews, etc. Now I'm sure of it. This is not new, btw. I remember about a year ago a few different CIA/Army brigades having the same outing, including sock-puppets, etc. Just can't remember their names. There's also the private Feb 01 15:31
schestowitzsector (including all of the PR industry)..."Feb 01 15:31
schestowitz"World war three through social media?"Feb 01 15:31
schestowitzWorse: engaging in war ON social mediaFeb 01 15:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5516927Feb 01 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ioerror/status/561583278319501313Feb 01 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ioerror: The https://t.co/0lPoCRCis7 is back and I get a captcha from @CloudFlare? This is a joke, right? Surely they're trolling, right?Feb 01 15:33
schestowitz"Honey-pot?"Feb 01 15:33
schestowitzSounds possibleFeb 01 15:34
DaemonFCRyan FarmerFeb 01 15:36
DaemonFCJust now · Feb 01 15:36
DaemonFCGod creates a man. God decides later to create a woman from a rib. The woman eats an apple from a tree because of a talking snake that told her to. Humans damned forever and banished from paradise.. Cain kills Abel and walks for a while until he gets to a "WTF!? Did I turn two pages at once? Where the hell did this come from?" village full of people even though there are only a handful of people on Earth at this point and the only way to Feb 01 15:36
DaemonFCget more people would be through incest. A while later, after destroying two cities with fire as sort of a dry run, God decides that the entire "human" thing was a bad idea and kills everyone in the world in a flood except one family that puts a breeding pair of every living thing on Earth on a boat. God populates everything in the world through incest again, including, presumably, the mosquitoes, but omitting the dinosaurs, who had an Feb 01 15:36
DaemonFCiPhone and thought that it would wake them up but Siri thought that they were looking for pictures of a farm instead of setting the alarm. People are still apparently as wicked post-flood as they ever have been. God couldn't have possibly seen it coming. God sends his son who is himself to Earth by way of virgin birth so that he can die and give himself the ability to grant people pardons from sin, which, as God, he could not have done Feb 01 15:36
DaemonFCbefore! Fundamentalist Christians tell us that God will kill everyone again because of gay people, but instead of repopulating the world through incest again, he'll simply beam up the people who believe in him even though this "rapture" isn't anywhere in the bible, but just bear with us because God will let all of those nasty homosexuals be fooled into accepting a one world government operated by a beast that is another manifestation of the Feb 01 15:37
DaemonFCaforementioned talking snake for seven years before God decides to intervene and cast the beast down into a lake of fire forever. Along the way, remember that original sin damns everyone to hell from birth unless they repeatedly ask for the aforementioned pardon, but that's too horrible to think of, because what about the children? So let's throw in an "age of accountability" that's not in the bible anywhere, and nobody knows exactly what Feb 01 15:37
DaemonFCage that is, and then declare that anything that children do to sin before that age won't send them to hell, but at the same time, let's try them as adults when they grab dad's gun off the rack that he bought with cash without a background check because it's Indiana and kills him with it because he wouldn't buy them an XBOX.Feb 01 15:37
schestowitzlolFeb 01 15:37
schestowitzif god made a woman from adam's rib, then they share the same dnaFeb 01 15:37
schestowitzthere can never be diversity