IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: February 15th, 2015-February 21st, 2015

TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 14/2/2015: Mageia 5 Beta 3 Released, TPP	Feb 15 00:16
TweetTuxMachines	Imperialism http://t.co/qfdajvDTTJ	Feb 15 00:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 14/2/2015: Mageia 5 Beta 3 Released, TPP Imperialism \| Techrights		Feb 15 00:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Uh oh! Steam Machines are doomed or something	Feb 15 00:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Uh oh! Steam Machines are doomed or something \| Tux Machines		Feb 15 00:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cutegram 2, the Best Telegram Client for Linux	Feb 15 00:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Cutegram 2, the Best Telegram Client for Linux Ever \| Tux Machines		Feb 15 00:16
cubexyz	check it out... just learned about this one:	Feb 15 00:18
cubexyz	https://srlabs.de/badusb/	Feb 15 00:18
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cubexyz	Secure Boot, Intel Boot guard... what else? Oh yeah, Microsoft Surface RT tablets.. I'm sensing a bad trend here	Feb 15 00:23
MinceR	TPM, AMT	Feb 15 00:25
cubexyz	January 1st, 2015... all computers will have to be equipped with a TPM 2.0 module in order to pass Windows 8.1 hardware certification	Feb 15 00:28
cubexyz	I assume TPM can be turned off?	Feb 15 00:30
MinceR	it can	Feb 15 00:30
MinceR	but the manufacturer doesn't deserve to be paid for TPMs	Feb 15 00:30
MinceR	since it's foisted on users without asking them whether or not they want it	Feb 15 00:30
cubexyz	ok, so which motherboards should I be looking at?	Feb 15 00:30
MinceR	dunno	Feb 15 00:30
MinceR	i gave up on it	Feb 15 00:30
MinceR	since my TPM-less laptop was an unreliable piece of shit with crap support	Feb 15 00:31
MinceR	from dHell	Feb 15 00:31
cubexyz	well if the bios is socketed, that's one thing	Feb 15 00:33
cubexyz	you can pop the chip out and reprogram it	Feb 15 00:33
cubexyz	of course that assumes you have a lot of knowledge, or the board is already coreboot supported	Feb 15 00:34
cubexyz	I get gigabyte is worth a look, they have co-operated with coreboot	Feb 15 00:36
cubexyz	s/get/guess/	Feb 15 00:36
MinceR	sounds nice	Feb 15 00:38
cubexyz	I already reprogrammed Gigabyte GA-6BXC	Feb 15 00:38
cubexyz	but it's rather old	Feb 15 00:39
cubexyz	this is the best info I know about:	Feb 15 01:08
cubexyz	http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/systems	Feb 15 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org \| Recommended Complete Systems — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software		Feb 15 01:09
cubexyz	I guess if you can find a used Lenovo X200 cheap, buy it	Feb 15 01:13
cubexyz	or X60	Feb 15 01:14
MinceR	i already have a ThinkPad X220i Tablet	Feb 15 01:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/XbhHCcXTid	Feb 15 01:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Feb 15 01:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/C20t36NXy4	Feb 15 01:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Feb 15 01:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/J9613CnAkk	Feb 15 01:36
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MinceR	gn	Feb 15 02:21
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DaemonFC	MinceR, There's been some pushback on that, and Microsoft doesn't actually require it.	Feb 15 04:53
DaemonFC	Manufacturers of low end systems would have their profit margin wiped out because a TPM costs them about $30.	Feb 15 04:53
DaemonFC	Also, if you don't want to use the TPM, you don't actually have to. If you're really paranoid about it, just unload the Linux kernel modules that are needed to operate it.	Feb 15 04:54
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DaemonFC	Apple says it will make a self-driving car.	Feb 15 06:02
DaemonFC	That means that if you end up in a country that hasn't existed in 40 years or on an airport runway, you have only yourself to blame. :)	Feb 15 06:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 36 Won't Bring Native YouTube HTML5	Feb 15 07:43
TweetTuxMachines	Playback, But Will Sync Pinned Tiles	Feb 15 07:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Firefox 36 Won't Bring Native YouTube HTML5 Playback, But Will Sync Pinned Tiles \| Tux Machines		Feb 15 07:43
DaemonFC	http://www.zdnet.com/article/top-android-news-of-the-week-shipments-drop-for-first-time-android-wear-shipments-not-big-royalty/	Feb 15 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Top Android news of the week: Shipments drop, Android Wear not big, royalty battle ends \| ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jqdom ]		Feb 15 07:57
DaemonFC	The other shoe drops. Samsung announces that Microsoft's bloated crapware will be integrated into the Galaxy S6 and Microsoft drops the patent lawsuits against Samsung.	Feb 15 07:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/LinuxSocist/status/566843474779992064	Feb 15 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LinuxSocist: @schestowitz The same Police that have been corrupt tactics against Freetown Christiana for the past 40 years?		Feb 15 08:20
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/onlygoodcomez/status/566891865706754049	Feb 15 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@onlygoodcomez: @schestowitz @HeartPowered nothing could preventd them as the plans were to be followed true to suit whoever 'planned them" #falseflags		Feb 15 10:49
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/566912974590205952	Feb 15 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz bullshit....covering their ass, why?...everyone knows they are War Criminals.		Feb 15 11:07
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schestowitz	http://www.universityherald.com/articles/15905/20150214/harvard-and-mit-accused-in-lawsuit-of-discriminating-against-the-deaf-in-online-courses.htm	Feb 15 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.universityherald.com \| Harvard and MIT Accused in Lawsuit of Discriminating Against the Deaf in Online Courses : News : University Herald [ http://ur1.ca/jqfa1 ]		Feb 15 13:03
schestowitz	http://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2015/02/13/why-we-cant-trust-vladimir-putin-n1956760	Feb 15 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-townhall.com \| Why We Can't Trust Vladimir Putin - Mark Nuckols - Page 1 [ http://ur1.ca/jqfal ]		Feb 15 13:05
schestowitz	"Vladimir Putin is a gangster at the head of a criminal state. Unfortunately, Russia is a nuclear armed criminal state run by ignorant and dishonest thugs. We simply cannot rely on the Kremlin to deal in good faith or perhaps even act rationally. The threat posed by this aggressor state can’t be simply ignored, but rather must be resolutely confronted and contained. "	Feb 15 13:05
schestowitz	http://www.laprensasa.com/309_america-in-english/2945004_cuban-journalist-who-wrote-about-fidel-castro-dies.html	Feb 15 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.laprensasa.com \| Cuban journalist who wrote about Fidel Castro dies :: La Prensa :: America in English [ http://ur1.ca/jqfdv ]		Feb 15 13:22
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynco/status/566959840358957056 https://twitter.com/glynco/status/566960970933624835	Feb 15 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz and torture actually makes us less safe http://t.co/QrEhMoFx0t		Feb 15 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.humanrightsfirst.org \| The Truth on Torture is Here \| Human Rights First		Feb 15 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz more on the voodoo science of torture designed by the modern day equivalent of snake oil salesmen http://t.co/mo32bPVwrZ		Feb 15 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> stream.aljazeera.com \| Doctors and detainees		Feb 15 14:10
schestowitz	80 million dollars	Feb 15 14:10
schestowitz	msb: #cia is now pursuing weather warfare http://marketbusinessnews.com/weaponized-weather-inquiry-alarms-rutgers-university-climate-scientist/48186 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2954051/Chill-factor-CIA-weather-query.html	Feb 15 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marketbusinessnews.com \| Weaponized weather inquiry alarms Rutgers University climate scientist - Market Business News [ http://ur1.ca/jqfzf ]		Feb 15 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk \| Chill factor at 'cia' weather query \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jqfzg ]		Feb 15 14:57
schestowitz	not to be confused with that "chemtrail" BS	Feb 15 14:57
schestowitz	"	Feb 15 15:37
schestowitz	"As far as we are aware, the fee scheme for the Unitary Patent has not yet been officially agreed, i.e. it is still under discussion."	Feb 15 15:37
schestowitz	We attach the document without comment, in the hope that it might be of interest to you.	Feb 15 15:37
schestowitz	We forgot the attachment - but the document could be retrieved via the link we gave ... :-)	Feb 15 15:37
schestowitz	"	Feb 15 15:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JohnDiNardo/status/566982321031872513	Feb 15 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnDiNardo: @schestowitz Nétanyahou Arrangé Faux Paris Fussilade à Inciter à la Haine à l'égard des Musulmans. http://t.co/llpjSmrToh		Feb 15 15:44
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MinceR	geekings	Feb 15 17:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/YN8t2s8pv8	Feb 15 17:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 15 17:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines elementary OS: is financial support the only	Feb 15 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	way to help a project grow?	Feb 15 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lGBLTuX9Va (www.linuxveda.com)	Feb 15 17:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| elementary OS: is financial support the only way to help a project grow? - Linux Veda		Feb 15 17:21
schestowitz	> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso	Feb 15 17:33
schestowitz	>	Feb 15 17:33
schestowitz	> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.asc	Feb 15 17:33
schestowitz	>	Feb 15 17:33
schestowitz	> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.sha	Feb 15 17:33
schestowitz	>	Feb 15 17:33
schestowitz	> do not use this in production, this is an internal preview (not even an	Feb 15 17:33
schestowitz	> alpha)	Feb 15 17:33
MinceR	:)	Feb 15 17:34
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5588112	Feb 15 17:38
schestowitz	"@sticks_us no, GNU people are hostile with us in fact. We are free software community but they seggregate us because of the license. We just react to this hypocrisy. I had joined in a free software activist group 1 year ago when I was a GNU fan and Debian fan, to the misfortune of them was at the same time I started getting interested in other Unix-like systems (BSD specifically), at the same time OpenBSD project was needing money to	Feb 15 17:38
schestowitz	keep the project alive or will die. I went there in IRC channel of that group there to ask to donate to OpenBSD or it could die if it did not receive donation and it is a free software project. The answer I received was: "I won't donate do a project that it's not GPL.". this is a sociopathic attitude, no empathy. After that I left the group because they did not advocate free software, just the product that they loved as fanboys. Now I	Feb 15 17:38
schestowitz	am a really skeptical and critical about this GNU community. They lie about free software."	Feb 15 17:38
schestowitz	There are legitimate reasons for FSF not to support OpenBSD. First, Theo de Raadt smears RMS. Second, UNIX is not GNU/Linux.	Feb 15 17:39
MinceR	perhaps they don't want to pay for something to be developed that is a gift to abusive corporations	Feb 15 17:40
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222	Feb 15 17:42
schestowitz	"http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"	Feb 15 17:42
schestowitz	proving that mass surveillance is not needed	Feb 15 17:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873	Feb 15 17:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873	Feb 15 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz ah, but they'll just say that's because there isn't enough of it :(		Feb 15 17:44
schestowitz	[17:42] <schestowitz> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222	Feb 15 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The assailant, PET the Danish Intelligence service confirmed a moment ago, was known to them." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597663 #surveillance fail		Feb 15 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #police on the ground - not mass #surveillance - secures #denmark http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_DENMARK_SHOTS_FIRED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-02-14-19-34-22		Feb 15 17:45
schestowitz	[17:42] <schestowitz> "http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"	Feb 15 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| Copenhagen shootings suspect was 'known to police' \| World news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jqgyr ]		Feb 15 17:45
schestowitz	The public will buy it	Feb 15 17:45
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015450534739968	Feb 15 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz more worrying is precedent that all we do/say/download should be run past 'thought police' in case is or will become 'bad'		Feb 15 17:46
schestowitz	Not because of terrorism but perhaps journalism, leaks, etc.	Feb 15 17:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015916463198210	Feb 15 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz not all of us !		Feb 15 17:49
XRevan86	I don't get it: http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux this only package in Devuan is built only for amd64	Feb 15 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.devuan.org \| Index of /devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux/ [ http://ur1.ca/jqgzv ]		Feb 15 17:51
XRevan86	and preaplpha is only for i386	Feb 15 17:51
XRevan86	pre-alpha*	Feb 15 17:51
XRevan86	I don't understand what this image has to offer.	Feb 15 17:52
MinceR	the iso was probably built on some developer's own machine	Feb 15 17:52
XRevan86	MinceR: Why repo is amd64-only then?	Feb 15 17:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567016422057193472	Feb 15 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz think it's about the motive & because can. The 'excuse'-war on drugs/terror/immigration/copyright violation increasingly second		Feb 15 17:52
MinceR	i don't know	Feb 15 17:52
schestowitz	indeed, and they get the data too (DEA)	Feb 15 17:52
MinceR	i don't even know if what is built by Jenkins goes into the repo linked above	Feb 15 17:53
schestowitz	me neither	Feb 15 17:53
schestowitz	MinceR: it's not a final product, far from it	Feb 15 17:53
schestowitz	but at least they build something	Feb 15 17:54
MinceR	indeed	Feb 15 17:54
XRevan86	Maybe they have some another repo?	Feb 15 17:55
XRevan86	Because… they are removing systemd-shim via ugly postinst in devuan-baseconf	Feb 15 17:56
XRevan86	and policykit-1 package requires libpam-systemd	Feb 15 17:56
XRevan86	ah, wait, I am silly, they're removing systemd-sysv	Feb 15 17:56
XRevan86	then it's okay, but still, this .iso of theirs must contain systemd	Feb 15 17:57
MinceR	i haven't installed it yet	Feb 15 17:57
XRevan86	Me neither, I'm just theorizing :)	Feb 15 17:57
cubexyz	maybe it's time for Gentoo	Feb 15 17:58
XRevan86	Xfce requires polkit, polkit requires libpam-systemd, libpam-systemd requires systemd with shim or not.	Feb 15 17:58
MinceR	gentoo can likely do things devuan won't do	Feb 15 17:58
MinceR	like removing polkit and consolekit and dependencies to them	Feb 15 17:58
XRevan86	and packages.devuan.org doesn't provide an override for it	Feb 15 17:58
MinceR	(that is, building a full system that does not include them nor depends on them)	Feb 15 17:58
XRevan86	MinceR: They won't because that's a strange thing to do.	Feb 15 17:58
MinceR	(i don't know yet how well it will work, but i'm planning to try)	Feb 15 17:59
XRevan86	what they should do is build polkit without systemd	Feb 15 17:59
MinceR	i don't think that trying to remove more of poettering & co's crappy code would be "a strange thing to do"	Feb 15 17:59
XRevan86	MinceR: And so every happy Devuan user will reboot his PC with "shutdown -r now"	Feb 15 18:00
MinceR	i don't know about "every happy devuan user"	Feb 15 18:00
MinceR	but it would be fine for me	Feb 15 18:00
XRevan86	and that's ConsoleKit	Feb 15 18:01
MinceR	certainly preferable than trying to figure out by trial and error yet again how to fix things when something like udisks2 silently dies	Feb 15 18:01
XRevan86	polkit… I don't know if one can detach it from Xfce or other DE	Feb 15 18:01
MinceR	and the documentation says nothing about how it's supposed to be started, because magic	Feb 15 18:01
MinceR	i can live without a DE	Feb 15 18:01
MinceR	the point is that in gentoo you can do stuff with dependencies that a binary distro could not easily allow you to do	Feb 15 18:02
MinceR	because there are only so many versions of the same package worth building	Feb 15 18:02
cubexyz	yes	Feb 15 18:03
XRevan86	MinceR: It also mixes builddeps with regular ones so if something requires libsystemd…	Feb 15 18:03
XRevan86	or libpulse	Feb 15 18:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/566976942327742464	Feb 15 18:07
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schestowitz	Even without footage from CCTV the choice of first target have away the religion	Feb 15 18:07
XRevan86	MinceR: Anyway, systemd is not what causes my issue with Devuan.	Feb 15 18:08
XRevan86	it's just… they called themselved Veteran UNIX Admins, they asked for donations without having a product	Feb 15 18:09
XRevan86	people advertized Devuan	Feb 15 18:09
XRevan86	and now they're doing stuff so slow I am starting to wonder if they know what they're doing	Feb 15 18:09
cubexyz	Unix traditionalists wouldn't use Linux though	Feb 15 18:09
cubexyz	they would use one of the BSDs	Feb 15 18:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: There is a special group of 'Unixers' who use OS X	Feb 15 18:10
cubexyz	sure, there's lots of groups	Feb 15 18:10
MinceR	yes, there are people who play with that toy and call it unix, even though it isn't	Feb 15 18:10
XRevan86	they tend to call themselves unixoids	Feb 15 18:10
cubexyz	there's groups for AIX and everything one can imagine	Feb 15 18:10
MinceR	and i don't particularly care who pays The "Open" Group this week for the trademark	Feb 15 18:11
XRevan86	cubexyz: I mean, a bit lot of people who call themselves users of Unix are users of OS X	Feb 15 18:11
MinceR	call an unreliable, insecure, shiny toy by any name, it will still be an unreliable, insecure, shiny toy	Feb 15 18:11
XRevan86	a big*	Feb 15 18:11
cubexyz	XRevan86, the real hackers want source code though	Feb 15 18:11
cubexyz	they like writing code, fixing it, etc	Feb 15 18:11
XRevan86	and so I suspect VUA in being ones	Feb 15 18:11
MinceR	XRevan86: there are many projects that ask for donations before their first release	Feb 15 18:12
MinceR	there's crowdfunding, for example	Feb 15 18:12
XRevan86	MinceR: These project are big and major.	Feb 15 18:12
MinceR	no, not all of them are	Feb 15 18:12
XRevan86	Devuan did nothing serious since the beginning.	Feb 15 18:12
MinceR	then don't donate to them	Feb 15 18:13
cubexyz	XRevan86, there's some pretty serious PDP-11 hackers still	Feb 15 18:13
XRevan86	MinceR: I don't, still I know people who did. I don't understand them.	Feb 15 18:13
MinceR	yeah, how dare they support a project that didn't get to its first release in one day?	Feb 15 18:14
cubexyz	MinceR, start up a crowdfunding thing for Anti-Systemd :)	Feb 15 18:14
MinceR	i don't think i need to	Feb 15 18:14
XRevan86	MinceR: s/one day/several months/;s/first release/serveral packages like patched polkit/	Feb 15 18:14
MinceR	if enough people want to maintain a debian wheezy-like reliable non-rolling non-systemd distro, that's nice and i'll use it	Feb 15 18:15
MinceR	if not, i'll just get by with bedrock and gentoo	Feb 15 18:15
MinceR	if that fails, i'll go to netbsd or whatever	Feb 15 18:15
MinceR	even if IT goes to hell, they can't prevent me from running a release that's still sane	Feb 15 18:16
cubexyz	hard to imagine every distro going systemd	Feb 15 18:16
cubexyz	I'm sure there will be some hold-outs	Feb 15 18:16
MinceR	i hope so	Feb 15 18:16
MinceR	but i don't know if it will happen	Feb 15 18:17
XRevan86	All those Devuan donations could go to Gentoo, for instance :)	Feb 15 18:20
MinceR	yeah, who needs diversity?	Feb 15 18:21
XRevan86	or if not Devuan then maybe some other group of people would do the job	Feb 15 18:21
cubexyz	I run a lot of old stuff, it's not going to disappear	Feb 15 18:21
MinceR	so it doesn't matter who does it, as long as it's not Devuan? :>	Feb 15 18:21
XRevan86	MinceR: No, you don't see my point.	Feb 15 18:21
XRevan86	Devuan had a lot of fuss, really a lot.	Feb 15 18:22
XRevan86	and a lot of donations	Feb 15 18:22
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XRevan86	and they didn't do anything worthy this attention and money	Feb 15 18:22
MinceR	i haven't seen the "fuss" and don't know how much money they got	Feb 15 18:24
XRevan86	MinceR: I've seen several pages on habrahabr about them with lots of comments	Feb 15 18:24
XRevan86	major Russian IT blogging network	Feb 15 18:25
MinceR	i don't read habrahabr	Feb 15 18:25
MinceR	and i don't understand much of russian	Feb 15 18:25
XRevan86	MinceR: Point is: Devuan got a lot of attention.	Feb 15 18:25
XRevan86	and they wanted it, just read http://debianfork.org/	Feb 15 18:26
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MinceR	on a russian website	Feb 15 18:26
XRevan86	MinceR: I read russian websites so no wonder I'm talking about them :)	Feb 15 18:26
MinceR	and i don't know how many experienced [ex-]debian package maintainers are working on it	Feb 15 18:27
cubexyz	do Russians use Linux a lot?	Feb 15 18:27
MinceR	seems to be a more significant limit to productivity than donations	Feb 15 18:27
XRevan86	cubexyz: Not really.	Feb 15 18:27
XRevan86	cubexyz: Just like everywhere else.	Feb 15 18:27
cubexyz	I thought Putin was trying to move people in that direction	Feb 15 18:28
cubexyz	but yeah, I talk to the odd Russian Linux person	Feb 15 18:29
XRevan86	cubexyz: Well, there is an idea to move government sector and schools to GNU/Linux.	Feb 15 18:29
XRevan86	but the product of this idea is… nothing, really.	Feb 15 18:30
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XRevan86	A lot of hatred toward Linux from school teachers	Feb 15 18:30
MinceR	if it's anything like hungary (another post-communist mafia state) then it depends on which vendor pays more in bribes at the moment	Feb 15 18:30
MinceR	right, also, underfunded teachers sucking at their job	Feb 15 18:30
MinceR	"but i can't learn anything new!"	Feb 15 18:31
XRevan86	MinceR: Yeah, kinda like that.	Feb 15 18:31
cubexyz	ALT Linux is Russian	Feb 15 18:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: And it sucks.	Feb 15 18:31
cubexyz	we have OpenBSD in Canada, along with Vector Linux	Feb 15 18:31
cubexyz	XRevan86, ok :)	Feb 15 18:31
cubexyz	I've never tried it	Feb 15 18:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: I've seen ALT Linux once (4.0 School Edition) in 2010, I think.	Feb 15 18:32
cubexyz	I use FC1 (ancient) and OpenBSD, plus I do a lot of classic computing	Feb 15 18:32
cubexyz	this box I'm on now is OpenBSD	Feb 15 18:32
XRevan86	I've wiped rootfs by apt-get dist-upgrade	Feb 15 18:32
XRevan86	I just don't know what went wrong.	Feb 15 18:33
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/englobalnewsp/status/567025653195616257	Feb 15 18:33
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cubexyz	I think KDE 3.5.10 had pretty good keyboard support so you could use a lot of different languages	Feb 15 18:34
XRevan86	cubexyz: Government doesn't even use LibreOffice.	Feb 15 18:35
XRevan86	Linux and stuff are just words to get money for them.	Feb 15 18:35
XRevan86	Talks about government structures moving to Linux are going since 2009.	Feb 15 18:36
cubexyz	I know Russia had Elektronika series, like BK-0010, which was a DEC clone	Feb 15 18:36
cubexyz	so I know some Russians like Unix	Feb 15 18:37
XRevan86	cubexyz: That's USSR.	Feb 15 18:37
XRevan86	cubexyz: I know a lot of Russians who like Unix :).	Feb 15 18:38
cubexyz	Elektronika MS-0501 looked pretty good	Feb 15 18:39
cubexyz	not sure how expensive it was though	Feb 15 18:39
cubexyz	yes, I guess that must have been USSR era	Feb 15 18:40
XRevan86	cubexyz: Yeah.	Feb 15 18:40
XRevan86	cubexyz: The only Russian (Federation) project I know about is Elbrus.	Feb 15 18:41
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus_%28computer%29	Feb 15 18:41
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XRevan86	cubexyz: Of course, it is used in masses by… no one.	Feb 15 18:41
cubexyz	I wish we did have an affordable PDP-11 clone in Canada	Feb 15 18:42
cubexyz	there's just FPGA ones, nothing ready out of the box	Feb 15 18:42
XRevan86	cubexyz: Trick is that USSR was a different country with different science potential.	Feb 15 18:45
MinceR	greatly stunted science potential, thanks to communism	Feb 15 18:47
XRevan86	MinceR: And you sure we're living in communism	Feb 15 18:47
XRevan86	I heard it's called capitalism	Feb 15 18:47
MinceR	they called it that some of the time	Feb 15 18:48
MinceR	they renamed it like m$ renames their shit	Feb 15 18:48
XRevan86	MinceR: So, you're saying 80s are the time communism happend to USSR	Feb 15 18:48
MinceR	i'm not sure i understand	Feb 15 18:49
XRevan86	and 90s are the time when communism was rebranded to capitalism	Feb 15 18:49
cubexyz	so you go into a Russia computer store and it's all Windows and Apple	Feb 15 18:49
MinceR	well, yes, and it was supposed to have been replaced	Feb 15 18:49
cubexyz	and some Android I guess	Feb 15 18:49
XRevan86	MinceR: Soviet science died in 90s	Feb 15 18:49
MinceR	and then we realized that not much changed	Feb 15 18:49
MinceR	thanks to putin	Feb 15 18:49
XRevan86	MinceR: I see a lot of changes.	Feb 15 18:49
XRevan86	Dead science, dead manufacture…	Feb 15 18:49
cubexyz	hmmm	Feb 15 18:50
XRevan86	But the name is Yeltsin	Feb 15 18:50
XRevan86	cubexyz: And some FreeDOS	Feb 15 18:50
XRevan86	maybe even GNU/Linux, this also happens	Feb 15 18:51
cubexyz	XRevan86, there's a little bit of Linux and BSD in very small computer stores in Canada	Feb 15 18:51
XRevan86	Acer sells some laptops with Linpus	Feb 15 18:51
cubexyz	it's definitely a fringe thing	Feb 15 18:51
XRevan86	cubexyz: Same here, of course.	Feb 15 18:51
MinceR	XRevan86: i mean, the realization was due to putin	Feb 15 18:51
XRevan86	MinceR: Realization of what?	Feb 15 18:51
MinceR	that practically the same thing as the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the world	Feb 15 18:52
cubexyz	Linpus is Taiwanese I think	Feb 15 18:52
cubexyz	I tried it once, wasn't too good	Feb 15 18:52
MinceR	and is still non-democratic, still oppressive	Feb 15 18:52
XRevan86	> the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the world	Feb 15 18:53
XRevan86	Hmm	Feb 15 18:53
XRevan86	United States is a union in a way	Feb 15 18:53
XRevan86	and Soviet == Council	Feb 15 18:53
XRevan86	US has one…	Feb 15 18:53
MinceR	the USA is a different entity	Feb 15 18:53
MinceR	and a different kind of threat	Feb 15 18:54
XRevan86	MinceR: What kind of threat USSR was?	Feb 15 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines devuan is live (preview only)	Feb 15 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Rt5YfgryTI (mirror.debianfork.org)	Feb 15 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KKNAgLuVHU (mirror.debianfork.org)	Feb 15 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BuugNnYNKl (mirror.debianfork.org)	Feb 15 18:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines elementary OS: is financial support the only	Feb 15 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	way to help a project grow?	Feb 15 18:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9SzJasifW9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 18:54
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MinceR	a lot could be said about that	Feb 15 18:55
XRevan86	First democratic decision in Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_referendum,_1991	Feb 15 18:55
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XRevan86	76% of Soviet citizens voted for keeping USSR.	Feb 15 18:57
cubexyz	wow, I didn't know that	Feb 15 18:58
XRevan86	But oppressive USSR government desided not to listen.	Feb 15 18:58
MinceR	there still exist plenty of people in hungary who are deluded enough to believe that life was better under that empire	Feb 15 18:58
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MinceR	no wonder hungary is dying.	Feb 15 18:58
MinceR	they put a new dictatorship in place of the old one, after 20 years of democracy	Feb 15 18:59
XRevan86	I really know nothing about Hungary.	Feb 15 18:59
cubexyz	it's interesting to hear what goes on in different countries	Feb 15 18:59
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's hard to find good sources of information.	Feb 15 19:00
schestowitz	http://mrpogson.com/	Feb 15 19:02
schestowitz	"Valentine’s Day is an ancient tradition, mutated from a story of love and devotion by a martyr to a commercial period on the calendar. We all know it’s silly, but it’s fun, and we all love chocolate and roses and…"	Feb 15 19:02
XRevan86	MinceR: What threat USSR was exactly?	Feb 15 19:04
XRevan86	I still don't know.	Feb 15 19:04
MinceR	a military threat as well as a force that tried to force its own brand of dictatorship over ever more countries	Feb 15 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 is Live !	Feb 15 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/z1ZJD4D2Nf (makululinux.com) could	Feb 15 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	do with some proofreading..	Feb 15 19:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not Ubuntu	Feb 15 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rGNt22uKAE (linux.about.com)	Feb 15 19:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Changes Already For Linux 3.20 (Linux 4.0?) Are	Feb 15 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	Very Exciting http://t.co/vImWhBtDyl	Feb 15 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) http://t.co/BUhQVka6ur	Feb 15 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 15 19:07
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MinceR	and the economies of the oppressed countries were wrecked by them	Feb 15 19:07
XRevan86	MinceR: Like Iraq?	Feb 15 19:07
MinceR	for the sake of religious belief in their anti-economics	Feb 15 19:07
MinceR	like the whole eastern bloc	Feb 15 19:08
XRevan86	and Libiya?	Feb 15 19:08
XRevan86	or maybe even worse? O_O	Feb 15 19:08
XRevan86	In GDR people sucked dirt.	Feb 15 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0	Feb 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aN9jczhofr (www.kde.org)	Feb 15 19:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 is Live !	Feb 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lBZZalfBRL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 19:09
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XRevan86	East Germany*	Feb 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Staging Pull For Linux 3.20 Has A Lot Of	Feb 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	Changes All Over The Place	Feb 15 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gUxLjKrUC3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 19:09
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XRevan86	Of course, those who were still alive.	Feb 15 19:10
XRevan86	and all that just because USSR wanted German oil.	Feb 15 19:10
MinceR	i didn't know about that	Feb 15 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not Ubuntu	Feb 15 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/L8QsxkFmhS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 19:10
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MinceR	did germany have oil?	Feb 15 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0	Feb 15 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/v3NeKakD2o (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 19:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Reiser4 Updated For The Linux 3.18 Kernel	Feb 15 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Dtf6L5hQVw (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 15 19:11
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XRevan86	MinceR: Me neither.	Feb 15 19:11
XRevan86	MinceR: s/USSR/US/;s/Germany/$PLACE_A_COUNTRY/	Feb 15 19:11
XRevan86	MinceR: Okay, even if we assume socialist countries were terrible and awful and now they live like gods	Feb 15 19:13
XRevan86	MinceR: This is still not a military threat	Feb 15 19:13
MinceR	then read up on what russia did in hungary in 1956.	Feb 15 19:13
XRevan86	MinceR: Stalin's time, I see.	Feb 15 19:17
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MinceR	was i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?	Feb 15 19:26
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MinceR	202051 <@MinceR> was i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?	Feb 15 19:31
XRevan86	MinceR: hmm?	Feb 15 19:31
XRevan86	MinceR: I'm reading Wikipedia about the rebellion :)	Feb 15 19:31
MinceR	:)	Feb 15 19:32
XRevan86	I see rebels were quite nice guys	Feb 15 19:33
XRevan86	Wikipedia says something about acid but I can't find a photo	Feb 15 19:34
XRevan86	> Photographs showed victims with signs of torture	Feb 15 19:35
XRevan86	Okay, I don't want to look at this	Feb 15 19:36
XRevan86	very… nice… guys	Feb 15 19:36
XRevan86	> The leaders of all states, including Poland, Yugoslavia, China, which initially welcomed the Hungarian events, agreed that the state in Hungary can be saved only through armed intervention	Feb 15 19:38
XRevan86	MinceR: This doesn't seem to be a good example of true evilness of USSR.	Feb 15 19:40
XRevan86	too controversial	Feb 15 19:40
MinceR	not according to the USSR and their puppets, certainly	Feb 15 19:40
MinceR	this is a "controversy" like evolution is	Feb 15 19:41
XRevan86	MinceR: I guess Wikipedia is one of them.	Feb 15 19:41
XRevan86	MinceR: I didn't quote anything %).	Feb 15 19:41
XRevan86	everything*	Feb 15 19:41
MinceR	afaik there is at least one russian nationalist clique that has power over wikipedia	Feb 15 19:41
XRevan86	MinceR: The most controversial part is what these rebels did.	Feb 15 19:43
XRevan86	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/2/2c/Защитники_горкома_ВПТ._Будапешт._30_окт_1956.jpg	Feb 15 19:43
MinceR	of course, everyone who dares oppose the Holy Russian Empire must be a devil.	Feb 15 19:44
schestowitz	http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/07/1207471/-Thanks-to-abstinence-teaching-Elizabeth-Smart-felt-I-m-that-chewed-up-piece-of-gum	Feb 15 19:44
XRevan86	damn, english version has a different structure	Feb 15 19:45
XRevan86	hard to find parallels	Feb 15 19:45
MinceR	should have started there	Feb 15 19:45
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schestowitz	[19:41] <MinceR> this is a "controversy" like evolution is	Feb 15 19:46
schestowitz	It is controversial	Feb 15 19:46
schestowitz	Very	Feb 15 19:46
schestowitz	Not for the Catholic Church though	Feb 15 19:46
schestowitz	as they already accept it, unlike most of the dumb followers	Feb 15 19:46
XRevan86	I think Russian Orphodox still didn't	Feb 15 19:47
schestowitz	Though I think the Church will say, "God started Evolution"	Feb 15 19:47
XRevan86	Orthodox*	Feb 15 19:47
MinceR	the catholic pope might, i'm not sure about the rest of the priests	Feb 15 19:47
schestowitz	they're too busy thinking about the children	Feb 15 19:48
MinceR	lol	Feb 15 19:48
XRevan86	> There were approximately 213 Hungarian Working People's Party members lynched or executed during this period	Feb 15 19:48
XRevan86	English Wikipedia is not much into details %)	Feb 15 19:49
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schestowitz	The Soviet Union and the United States are different because of transparency	Feb 15 19:49
schestowitz	In Russia you get thrown out the window if you dare effectively criticise the regime	Feb 15 19:50
schestowitz	US dropped to 49th in press freedom	Feb 15 19:50
MinceR	and because there's still some degree of freedom of speech and democracy in the USA	Feb 15 19:50
schestowitz	Russia is almost 200th	Feb 15 19:50
schestowitz	US used to be much better, now dropping closer to USSR	Feb 15 19:50
MinceR	not always thrown out the window, some people get imprisoned instead	Feb 15 19:50
MinceR	say, for insulting the official cult of the state :>	Feb 15 19:51
XRevan86	schestowitz: I heard about silencing and stuff but throwing out of the window…	Feb 15 19:51
XRevan86	schestowitz: Have you heard about Lenta.ru?	Feb 15 19:51
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenta.ru	Feb 15 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Lenta.ru - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Feb 15 19:52
XRevan86	schestowitz: The reason for this replacement is an interview with one of the leaders of Right sector Andrey Tarasenko (from Russian Wikipedia)	Feb 15 19:54
XRevan86	strange that English one didn't mention that	Feb 15 19:55
XRevan86	And former editor-in-chief is not in jail or thrown out of the window but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meduza	Feb 15 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Meduza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Feb 15 19:56
*XRevan86 really doesn't like exaggerations.		Feb 15 19:57
*MinceR isn't sure if this is concrete case is what schestowitz was talking about		Feb 15 19:57
XRevan86	http://crunchbangplusplus.org/	Feb 15 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-crunchbangplusplus.org \| #!++ Coming Soon		Feb 15 19:58
XRevan86	MinceR: It's the only fresh one I know.	Feb 15 19:58
MinceR	does #!++ use systemd by default?	Feb 15 19:58
XRevan86	MinceR: No idea.	Feb 15 19:59
XRevan86	MinceR: It is openbox-based.	Feb 15 19:59
XRevan86	So in either way it is fixable by installing/removing systemd :)	Feb 15 19:59
MinceR	i'm not sure about that	Feb 15 20:00
XRevan86	MinceR: It's Debian, you know.	Feb 15 20:00
MinceR	for example, its display manager might have a hard dependency	Feb 15 20:00
XRevan86	Actually, I have no idea what crunchbang used as a DM. Not gdm for sure though.	Feb 15 20:00
MinceR	lightdm, perhaps	Feb 15 20:01
MinceR	no, slim	Feb 15 20:01
XRevan86	I vote for slim	Feb 15 20:01
XRevan86	:D	Feb 15 20:01
cubexyz	surely it's not hard to add the DM you want?	Feb 15 20:04
MinceR	hopefully	Feb 15 20:05
cubexyz	I added icewm to openbsd	Feb 15 20:05
XRevan86	cubexyz: It is Debian.	Feb 15 20:05
MinceR	i've heard a ridiculous amount of packages depend on systemd crap	Feb 15 20:05
XRevan86	+ custom repo	Feb 15 20:05
XRevan86	trick is to find out what that repo is :)	Feb 15 20:06
cubexyz	on vector I got a ton of different ones: fvwm, icewm, kde, mwm, ratpoison, twm, xfce 4 and failsafe	Feb 15 20:06
XRevan86	I know where crunch's was	Feb 15 20:06
cubexyz	failsafe is just X and xterm :)	Feb 15 20:06
cubexyz	no window manager really	Feb 15 20:06
XRevan86	https://github.com/computermouth/cbpp/tree/master/CBPP_beta_02132015_src/localp uhm…	Feb 15 20:07
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XRevan86	what I am looking at?	Feb 15 20:07
XRevan86	> The packages on github and the .iso were solely intended to provide a proof-of-concept	Feb 15 20:08
XRevan86	ah, good	Feb 15 20:08
cubexyz	this is what happens when everyone gets too dependent on distros	Feb 15 20:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: What do you mean?	Feb 15 20:10
cubexyz	XRevan86, they get less knowledgeable and a bit lazy	Feb 15 20:10
cubexyz	old school Linux was a roll your own affair	Feb 15 20:10
XRevan86	cubexyz: You're talking about systemd or crunch?	Feb 15 20:10
cubexyz	XRevan86, I'm not really referring to a specific distro, just the fact everyone now expects everything to be 'easy'	Feb 15 20:11
XRevan86	cubexyz: I don't, I break 'easy' stuff too easily.	Feb 15 20:12
cubexyz	I put over 100 hours into my first coreboot install	Feb 15 20:12
XRevan86	I don't know what's wrong with me, I can't work with stuff I don't understand.	Feb 15 20:13
cubexyz	sometimes you just have to put the extra time in	Feb 15 20:13
cubexyz	XRevan86, well which distro do you like?	Feb 15 20:13
XRevan86	cubexyz: From what perspective?	Feb 15 20:13
cubexyz	useability, normal day to day work	Feb 15 20:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: Debian.	Feb 15 20:14
XRevan86	But I use openSUSE :).	Feb 15 20:14
XRevan86	because I like the way maintainership is made in it.	Feb 15 20:15
XRevan86	Debian + Open Build Service infrastructure == distro from my dreams	Feb 15 20:15
cubexyz	everything was going fine with Linux, then Fedora 15, boom, systemd	Feb 15 20:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: I didn't see Fedora until recently.	Feb 15 20:19
XRevan86	It's an awful distribution.	Feb 15 20:19
XRevan86	But I don't see what this has to do with systemd	Feb 15 20:19
XRevan86	dnf and yum will be awful even without it	Feb 15 20:19
cubexyz	Poettering works for Red Hat	Feb 15 20:20
cubexyz	it's like systemd central now	Feb 15 20:20
XRevan86	cubexyz: I know. I still don't think he broke yum :)	Feb 15 20:21
cubexyz	what's wrong with yum?	Feb 15 20:21
XRevan86	1. terrible way of adding/modifying repos	Feb 15 20:21
XRevan86	2. slow startup with stupid verbose output of what yum plans to do (fixed in dnf)	Feb 15 20:22
XRevan86	3. failure results to dublicate packages, fixable via a separate utility	Feb 15 20:23
XRevan86	4. all output is just a mess (fixed in dnf)	Feb 15 20:24
XRevan86	5. dnf is not feature-rich	Feb 15 20:24
cubexyz	ok, well I'm off Fedora unless you include older versions	Feb 15 20:26
cubexyz	FC1 is so old I'm upgrading my source only	Feb 15 20:26
cubexyz	what do you think of pkg_add or Portage?	Feb 15 20:26
XRevan86	cubexyz: I haven't seen pkg_add	Feb 15 20:27
XRevan86	Portage is complicated and slow, but I can understand why.	Feb 15 20:27
cubexyz	XRevan86, you might like it	Feb 15 20:27
cubexyz	That's what OpenBSD uses	Feb 15 20:27
cubexyz	also every repo will eventually disappear	Feb 15 20:28
cubexyz	unless someone maintains hosting for it	Feb 15 20:28
cubexyz	of course, the old method was just tarballs	Feb 15 20:29
XRevan86	cubexyz: Well, I don't put PM on a first place. But Fedora's is so terrible…	Feb 15 20:31
XRevan86	What else Fedora can propose to compensate that?	Feb 15 20:31
cubexyz	ok, I basically agree, but for different reasons	Feb 15 20:32
cubexyz	I'm using slackware based distros and BSD now	Feb 15 20:32
XRevan86	different indeed	Feb 15 20:33
MinceR	yum is unreliable	Feb 15 20:33
XRevan86	MinceR: Yes, that's a good description of it.	Feb 15 20:33
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600928	Feb 15 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #devuan is live (preview only) http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.asc http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.sha		Feb 15 21:36
schestowitz	"	Feb 15 21:36
schestowitz	Interesting, it might be worth to check it.	Feb 15 21:36
schestowitz	Meanwhile yesterday I finally tried Debian Jessie, I installed it from scratch to get the true experience, systemd and all. After taking a lot of time to install, maybe because I used a virtual machine, I booted it and noticed lots of daemons and services up, none known or directly useful to me.	Feb 15 21:36
schestowitz	So the gdm login screen appeared and without doing anything but waiting something like an X terminal appeared and gdm got restarted. Waited more and saw that a couple of times more. Tried to login and the same happened in the middle of Gnome startup. Tried with Gnome and Gnome Classic and got the same.	Feb 15 21:36
schestowitz	Have no idea if this is related to systemd or not, but instead of wasting time trying to debug this I'm more compelled to spend time migrating to OpenBSD.	Feb 15 21:36
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MinceR	"Journalists and DWN editors reading: please do not link this. We will	Feb 15 21:36
MinceR	have another more public release soon :^) Let it be a private valentine "	Feb 15 21:37
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5601543	Feb 15 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: End of the #m0n0wall project http://m0n0.ch/wall/end_announcement.php #bsd #unix		Feb 15 21:37
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schestowitz	"That's really sad. I really liked m0n0wall. But I haven't used it myself for quite a long time... It was a good firewall and a router for my needs in the day."	Feb 15 21:37
schestowitz	Anyone can make a successor to it, like happens with Crunchbang now....	Feb 15 21:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597681	Feb 15 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "France’s ambassador to Denmark.. police officers who “saved [his] life” in the shooting." http://www.buzzfeed.com/alisonvingiano/copenhagen-shooting?utm_term=.xpMVpXQve&sub=3668607_4986563#.jhr535AAB #surveillance didn't help		Feb 15 21:38
schestowitz	"In the sixties Denmark imported people for the working force especially from Tyrkey. After that a a constant stream of people has come here - fugetives, Family reunification and migrants. We are one of the richest nations on Earth, with very good welfare. It is not strange that people want to come here."	Feb 15 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.buzzfeed.com \| Police Kill Suspect In Two Deadly Copenhagen Shootings - BuzzFeed News [ http://ur1.ca/jqg1d ]		Feb 15 21:38
schestowitz	"I just talked to one of the employees of a local roast chicken joint (I live in Nørrebro where the moron came from)He said: I don't call him a terrorist, just a young boy who had enough. I am sure he knew who it was. It was 100 m from where they shoot him. And it is true. The young assailant probably knew less about Islam than I do. He simply do what some young men do - go amok. He could have just killed a local pusher and nobody	Feb 15 21:39
schestowitz	would have cared. Now it was in the rich part of Copenhagen and targeted at the Swedish artist. That makes a difference for everybody else (and it should). But this guy could have thrown his life away in so many ways."	Feb 15 21:39
MinceR	it certainly made a difference for the artist	Feb 15 21:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines End of the m0n0wall project	Feb 15 21:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat wants you to contain yourself and your	Feb 15 21:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CrunchBang rises from the ashes	Feb 15 21:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Edge Of Eternity J-RPG Tribute Now On	Feb 15 22:08
TweetTuxMachines	Kickstarter, Has A Linux Demo	Feb 15 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Feb 15 22:08
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MinceR	i want red hat to contain themselves	Feb 15 22:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3	Feb 15 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/q3CE0uK58O (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 15 22:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As A	Feb 15 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Ultrabook http://t.co/baIBUmjjSH	Feb 15 22:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As A	Feb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Ultrabook http://t.co/nxNWxo672s	Feb 15 22:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Some Linux distributions never change	Feb 15 22:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3	Feb 15 22:31
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cubexyz	you get the cheap stuff, but you lose jobs or...	Feb 16 00:43
cubexyz	you keep the jobs, and don't get cheap stuff	Feb 16 00:43
MinceR	and in the end the cheap stuff turns out not to be cheap	Feb 16 00:44
MinceR	gn	Feb 16 00:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/200hmMeV4D	Feb 16 01:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-Performing	Feb 16 06:52
TweetTuxMachines	Android Smartwatch Yet http://t.co/XfNPB4CIY3	Feb 16 06:52
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600929	Feb 16 08:38
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schestowitz	"I do not care about the systemd vs linux debate but it is nice to have alternatives."	Feb 16 08:38
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msb	With friends like that...	Feb 16 08:50
msb	I think the kernel should be folded into systemd. Then maybe Linus would wake up and say something.	Feb 16 08:55
msb	In fact, just put Windows 10 in there and forget about the kernel.	Feb 16 08:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/CydeRGF89b	Feb 16 11:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not Ubuntu	Feb 16 11:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 – Prometheus (64bit)	Feb 16 11:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-Performing	Feb 16 11:53
TweetTuxMachines	Android Smartwatch Yet http://t.co/1lXy9FVgux	Feb 16 11:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYD	Feb 16 11:53
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msb	Wow, the comcrap mail server and the whole comcrap website -- comcast.net is down! But my service is still working.	Feb 16 12:02
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msb	http://www.telesurtv.net/english/telesuragenda/Venezuela-Coup-Thwarted-20150213-0007.html	Feb 16 12:42
msb	http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.html	Feb 16 12:42
msb	http://www.globalresearch.ca/britain-and-canada-involved-in-foiled-us-venezuelan-coup-plot/5431523	Feb 16 12:42
msb	http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11208	Feb 16 12:42
msb	The US tried to "regime-change" Venezuela a few days ago!	Feb 16 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Prediction: 2020 the year of (PC-)BSD on the	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	desktop http://t.co/slAkoIDxxZ	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn46	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Leftovers http://t.co/kA2X0tbCQc	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn47	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ApKz9s4IG5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn48	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/E24s8zomzV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn4a	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wZqWOEr9uy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn4b	Feb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux Distribution	Feb 16 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ruk9jv0xby (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn4d	Feb 16 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATE	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	Edition - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2YbC9IKzf0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn7w	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CuBox-i review – an elegant mini PC which runs	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	Android, Linux and OpenELEC	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/M6CgpuCEAM	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidauthority.com)	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn7x	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What Every Company Can Learn From Xiaomi	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/r9FpZWBMI1	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerworlduk.com)	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn7z	Feb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5	Feb 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4NTB7kLaar (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8c	Feb 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released	Feb 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HlJPQqLQjH (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8d	Feb 16 13:34
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released with KDE Plasma...'		Feb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event	Feb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rvCFNg2p4p (www.gsmarena.com)	Feb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8i	Feb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux Distribution	Feb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6pC8Uu7NeG (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8j	Feb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	@Geekkritik RT @tuxmachines: Meizu teases #ubuntuphone	Feb 16 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	ahead of MWC event http://t.co/aKf1G69vd5	Feb 16 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gsmarena.com)	Feb 16 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8u	Feb 16 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event...'		Feb 16 13:36
schestowitz	When "Cyber Security" means cracking networks of "enemy" nations and "Consumer Protection" means data #surveillance http://www.utahpeoplespost.com/2015/02/white-house-summit-on-cyber-security-and-consumer-protection/	Feb 16 13:43
cubexyz	ok, giving kwort a try	Feb 16 14:24
cubexyz	full report later	Feb 16 14:24
cubexyz	there's actually something rather like Unix v7 in the Linux world	Feb 16 14:30
cubexyz	ttylinux	Feb 16 14:30
cubexyz	http://ttylinux.net/dloadPC-i686.html	Feb 16 14:30
cubexyz	I'm hoping to find something minimal but still with X	Feb 16 14:32
cubexyz	+	Feb 16 14:34
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schestowitz	g2`: j0	Feb 16 18:33
g2`	Hello.	Feb 16 18:33
g2`	Yes?	Feb 16 18:34
schestowitz	sorry, wrong keystrokes :-)	Feb 16 18:37
schestowitz	meant to respond to MinceR	Feb 16 18:37
MinceR	j0	Feb 16 18:38
schestowitz	[21:40] <MinceR> it certainly made a difference for the artist	Feb 16 18:39
schestowitz	Indeed	Feb 16 18:39
schestowitz	But that's taking the statement a bit out of context	Feb 16 18:39
MinceR	:>	Feb 16 18:40
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g2`	I joined here based on because "social" was in the topic	Feb 16 18:46
XRevan86	g2`: hmm?	Feb 16 18:47
schestowitz	GNU Social?	Feb 16 18:47
g2`	i joined here after /alis social topic search	Feb 16 18:47
schestowitz	Channel #boycottnovell-social is social too	Feb 16 18:47
XRevan86	schestowitz: You're still not in GNU social, right? :)	Feb 16 18:48
schestowitz	I think it was suggested by balzac around 2009 after Fedora had made such a channel	Feb 16 18:48
schestowitz	XRevan86: well, I used to use identica, whose successor is Social	Feb 16 18:48
schestowitz	StatusNet	Feb 16 18:48
XRevan86	schestowitz: This is past, I'm interested in present :).	Feb 16 18:48
schestowitz	running what was identi.ca at the time	Feb 16 18:48
schestowitz	I am no longer active in identi.ca	Feb 16 18:49
schestowitz	I moved to Diaspora	Feb 16 18:49
XRevan86	identi.ca is an instance of pump.io	Feb 16 18:49
XRevan86	now	Feb 16 18:49
schestowitz	after three people had invited me	Feb 16 18:49
schestowitz	pump.io does not interest me much (too basic) and Evan didn't give me my data from StatusNet, so I can't migrate to Social	Feb 16 18:50
XRevan86	schestowitz: I did tell you that importing data is not implemented anyway.	Feb 16 18:50
schestowitz	Even if export was possible, that's something	Feb 16 18:50
schestowitz	I can put online, and self-host, what I posted	Feb 16 18:51
schestowitz	As I did with Digg when it went Kaput	Feb 16 18:51
schestowitz	and with twitter before it dies, which it will one day	Feb 16 18:51
schestowitz	http://schestowitz.com/tweets	Feb 16 18:51
XRevan86	schestowitz: You can use twitter bridge, by the way.	Feb 16 18:52
XRevan86	Anyway, today's identi.ca is not StatusNet and so is not it's data	Feb 16 18:52
g2`	I'm not that familiar with the boycott novell situation..	Feb 16 18:53
XRevan86	schestowitz: You actually could export data from identi.ca but only before it migrated to pump.io	Feb 16 18:53
XRevan86	StatusNet and GNU social support exporting.	Feb 16 18:53
XRevan86	schestowitz: And I don't think Evan stores data from back then.	Feb 16 18:54
XRevan86	http://skilledtests.com/wiki/Statusnet_problems#data_portability	Feb 16 18:55
XRevan86	schestowitz: Does Diaspora* support Atom/RSS?	Feb 16 18:55
XRevan86	schestowitz: There are ways of automatic fetching of Atom streams in GNU social.	Feb 16 18:56
XRevan86	https://loadaverage.org/lor this account works in that way	Feb 16 18:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATE	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	Edition - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KtlUs5Wj5s (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3f	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zawlGfEAfP (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3g	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.0 Lollipop Is More Stable Than iOS 8:	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	Report http://t.co/71Vewb0jTp	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3m	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Malta to start government software repository	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Is6iQWXbcg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3n	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DmvlOtMepe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3p	Feb 16 19:04
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*TweetTuxMachines @greenlionnet favourited 'The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0...'		Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	a desktop) http://t.co/veUTXN3tpQ (lkcl.net)	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpac	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYD	Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpav	Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Android 5.0 Lollipop has a tiny slight edge	Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	when it comes to stability"	Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/k9VmH7EZDl (www.techtimes.com)	Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpax	Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast and	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	User-Friendly Arch Linux Distro	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Z0VfdD0i8B (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpb0	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Galicia publishes CeMIT classroom management	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	system http://t.co/u1wxMsgbd0	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpb3	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities Corrected	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	in All Supported Ubuntu OSes	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IAs95NXvG0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpb4	Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But	Feb 16 19:43
TweetTuxMachines	Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 16 19:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/E8osEWsSGU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbl	Feb 16 19:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	a desktop) http://t.co/oxPxRJVsQn	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbm	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LG's new Android Wear smartwatch, the Watch	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	Urbane, has an all-metal body	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sFljz39f3w (www.gizmag.com)	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbn	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xposed Framework For Android Lollipop Now	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	Available: What You Need To Know	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5JL99N0DrV (www.techtimes.com)	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbo	Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 4.4 KitKat Update Now Available for	Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	Xolo Q1200 http://t.co/jTGaT7UVbQ	Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	(gadgets.ndtv.com)	Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpdz	Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lenovo A6000, A5000, P70, S90 and Others to Get	Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	Android 5.0 Lollipop Update Soon	Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GOimx8zt6W (www.ibtimes.co.in)	Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpe0	Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu for Phones a reality	Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BQukn70R5G (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpe1	Feb 16 19:55
MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/piYLcaF.jpg	Feb 16 20:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best new icon packs for Android (February 2015)	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	#2 http://t.co/w9I3QXiDOe (www.phonearena.com)	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	"customization is one of the main selling	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	points"	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpfs	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cut the Rope Is the First Major Game Ported for	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/6hTMsPyDId	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpfu	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	@brolettolinux RT @tuxmachines: Removing Systemd from Debian	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	(and still running a desktop)	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NOWU8Q3q79 (lkcl.net)	Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpfw	Feb 16 20:06
msb	Comcast is censoring e-mails! Any e-mail from Comcast containing this URL is never sent. http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.html	Feb 16 20:10
msb	schestowitz: no bot?	Feb 16 20:10
cubexyz	do you get my emails?	Feb 16 20:11
msb	When did you send one?	Feb 16 20:11
cubexyz	just now	Feb 16 20:12
cubexyz	just curious if stuff from my mail server gets through	Feb 16 20:13
cubexyz	I see your emails though	Feb 16 20:13
msb	I got it.	Feb 16 20:14
cubexyz	I got your telesurtv.net message	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Arnold's T-800 Terminator Runs Linux Kernel	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	4.1, We're All Doomed http://t.co/O6kmn2QmtG	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/9RiocPoBoo	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxveda.com)	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqphy	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OS	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	Devs Say People Should Pay	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LuzRsexXTe (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	nothing forbids it.	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqphz	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Legends Of Eisenwald, A Medieval RPG & Strategy	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	Game Is Coming To Linux https://t.co/jBXhLzaPdW	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpi0	Feb 16 20:17
msb	cubexyz: yes. I found which url was censored, and tinyurled it. Then it went thru.	Feb 16 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the Fedora	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	family http://t.co/2h5mvIyVoh (www.scrye.com)	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpiu	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Their official site notes that Linux will be a	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	platform, and their publisher is the	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-friendly Devolver Digi...	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bo3cYSIIU9 (joindiaspora.com)	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpiw	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/mnO14Wru26	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpiz	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds: I don’t care if Terminator	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	robots run on Linux http://t.co/F7hYruRgy2	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpj1	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OS	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	Devs Say People Should Pay	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kfhGEf5TPH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpj2	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 Officially Released, Not	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	Yet Ready for 64-bit - Video	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VMMXlf9xAe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpj3	Feb 16 20:22
MinceR	somebody forgot the name "Cyberdyne Systems"	Feb 16 20:25
msb	Anybody here using Comcast?	Feb 16 20:27
MinceR	thankfully not me	Feb 16 20:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the Fedora	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	family http://t.co/Jrm9xDCJEz	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpkw	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OS	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	with the Latest NVIDIA Drivers	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kn9s1syrKB (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpkx	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpky	Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities Corrected	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	in All Supported Ubuntu OSes	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AQMgS0bUg6 (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpok	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #BridgeLinux #Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast and	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	User-Friendly Arch Linux Distro	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRb (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	#gnome too: http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRb	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpol	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Project Reaches 83% Reproducible Builds	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	for Source Packages http://t.co/IcXpRuey8W	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpom	Feb 16 20:49
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XRevan86	http://habrahabr.ru/post/250707 about russian distros	Feb 16 20:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 16/2/2015: Netrunner 15, Bridge Linux	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jss77NuQ1p (techrights.org)	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprf	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OS	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	with the Latest NVIDIA Drivers	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rIsy3vAxyi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprg	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why I am a Member of the Open Source Initiative	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QEYsBnBa4M (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprj	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3pm3OTgWuh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprk	Feb 16 21:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/c2wL9ooW3Z	Feb 16 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqqhq	Feb 16 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/znwJAeu5o8	Feb 16 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqqhr	Feb 16 23:10
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cubexyz	ok, I can report good results for AntiX 13.2	Feb 16 23:28
cubexyz	debian based OS, no systemd	Feb 16 23:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/k6x9R9Bdmg (www.datamation.com)	Feb 17 01:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr1g	Feb 17 01:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Login2truth/status/567491965370261504	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines gnu linux and in malawi http://t.co/SBNqqxvFJF	Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	(lodahl.blogspot.co.uk)	Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5o	Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wk54PkyVyR (linuxgizmos.com)	Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5p	Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Spelling in Malawi http://t.co/CAxixL4JJ7	Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5q	Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros	Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kYESevnmSi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5s	Feb 17 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/i9R9towuz7	Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrhn	Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux A Labour Of Love?	Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrho	Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/JjfBm64QyZ	Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrhp	Feb 17 02:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines systemd 219 http://t.co/jw2CvLUnYI	Feb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrkc	Feb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for	Feb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	Download, Chromebook Image Included	Feb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cN9BNdfWG3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrke	Feb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the	Feb 17 02:59
TweetTuxMachines	Community, Says Linux Foundation	Feb 17 02:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Y8EY4JCZ5X (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrkg	Feb 17 02:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) released	Feb 17 03:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TMV4OfxP57 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 03:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrpz	Feb 17 03:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install In	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize Tasks	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6skwD8GX4L (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsng	Feb 17 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install In Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize Tasks \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Project Points to Danger of Boutique	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	Distros http://t.co/3yL0S2S0Hg	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsni	Feb 17 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Project Points to Danger of Boutique Distros \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You	Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	Wherever You Go http://t.co/iViCZlwU35	Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsuq	Feb 17 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever You Go \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto	Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/5gOS8Kgold	Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsur	Feb 17 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto Doesn't Work On Linux? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But	Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/a66qGsD8hI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsus	Feb 17 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 07:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple	Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	lookalike http://t.co/uRl771b465	Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtjk	Feb 17 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon http://t.co/QlisN61LVM	Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtjm	Feb 17 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 09:49
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros http://t.co/kYESevnmSi'		Feb 17 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 09:49
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Is Linux A Labour Of Love? http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe'		Feb 17 10:26
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But...'		Feb 17 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Is Linux A Labour Of Love? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced	Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	below P5k http://t.co/TnHNBfAP9y	Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtql	Feb 17 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced below P5k \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where do we stand after 30 years after the	Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	founding of the Free Software Foundation?	Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zrQCDx7jDj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtqm	Feb 17 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Where do we stand after 30 years after the founding of the Free Software Foundation? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now	Feb 17 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	Available on PCs http://t.co/jNatXbCa6y	Feb 17 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtqn	Feb 17 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 10:27
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on...'		Feb 17 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your	Feb 17 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi https://t.co/QDu9nAYAdu	Feb 17 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.adafruit.com)	Feb 17 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtrc	Feb 17 10:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adafruit.com \| Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your Raspberry Pi #piday #raspberrypi @Raspberry_Pi « Adafruit Industries – Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!		Feb 17 10:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Radical Idea For More Linux Game Ports	Feb 17 10:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BHjD18j97R (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 17 10:32
TweetTuxMachines	"Canonical and Red Hat finance the ports."	Feb 17 10:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtry	Feb 17 10:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| A Radical Idea For More Linux Game Ports - Phoronix		Feb 17 10:32
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike...'		Feb 17 10:32
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With...'		Feb 17 10:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon reviewed	Feb 17 10:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lW0r2hqi5D (distrowatch.com)	Feb 17 10:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqttg	Feb 17 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com \| DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.		Feb 17 10:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever...'		Feb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	@miniputing This is actually quite nice RT @tuxmachines	Feb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your	Feb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi https://t.co/wTkzVQoj40	Feb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.adafruit.com) …	Feb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtuy	Feb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Continues to Attack Software Freedom	Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	Through UEFI http://t.co/QuN3a6M5u4	Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org) http://t.co/YU2RYG3ERd	Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu04	Feb 17 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Intel Continues to Attack Software Freedom Through UEFI \| Techrights		Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple	Feb 17 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| UEFI - Techrights		Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	lookalike http://t.co/ZV1OFALUV7	Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techzim.co.zw)	Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu05	Feb 17 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw \| Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike - Techzim		Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/SqEqer8MpY	Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxjournal.com)	Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu06	Feb 17 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| The Usability of GNOME \| Linux Journal		Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,	Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/gaPHO799G1	Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu2k	Feb 17 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source	Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0w8PvpgIgS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu2l	Feb 17 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let It	Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwg	Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu2m	Feb 17 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don’t Let It Kill Android Players Too \| Techrights		Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines systemd 219 http://t.co/WshyjU01xf	Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	(lists.freedesktop.org)	Feb 17 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org \| [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd 219		Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu87	Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/NvzSfc3Ari	Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	(lists.freedesktop.org)	Feb 17 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org \| [ANNOUNCE] wayland 1.7.0		Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu88	Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Using OpenGL with GTK+ https://t.co/cXtSxEzylh	Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.bassi.io)	Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu89	Feb 17 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bassi.io \| halting problem : Using OpenGL with GTK+		Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux A Labour Of Love?	Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lVURJEaLfM	Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.everydaylinuxuser.com)	Feb 17 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| Is Linux A Labour Of Love? « Everyday Linux User		Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu8a	Feb 17 11:41
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Is Linux A Labour Of Love? http://t.co/lVURJEaLfM'		Feb 17 11:54
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, http://engt.co/1FU17oK	Feb 17 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com \| The NSA hides surveillance software in hard drives		Feb 17 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux 4.0	Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PzPnGvfDEI (www.linuxplanet.com)	Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #kernel	Feb 17 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplanet.com \| Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux 4.0		Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqugb	Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto	Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/obsbOyB5FW	Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.lifehacker.com.au)	Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	microsoft silverlight still a cancer on the Web	Feb 17 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.com.au \| Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto Doesn't Work On Linux? \| Lifehacker Australia		Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqugc	Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation	Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gm24wef8E5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquge	Feb 17 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 12:09
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because...'		Feb 17 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for	Feb 17 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	Download, Chromebook Image Included	Feb 17 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/J5ylpU2bsf (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquhf	Feb 17 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for Download, Chromebook Image Included - Softpedia		Feb 17 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) released	Feb 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aza0Qb03MM (frugalware.org)	Feb 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquj9	Feb 17 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-frugalware.org \| Frugalware		Feb 17 12:21
*TweetTuxMachines @whiletrueweb favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'		Feb 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the	Feb 17 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	Community, Says Linux Foundation	Feb 17 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/eStktbW0ty (thevarguy.com)	Feb 17 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqun5	Feb 17 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the Community, Says Linux Foundation \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Feb 17 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You	Feb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	Wherever You Go http://t.co/gieHeNKc14	Feb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.makeuseof.com)	Feb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqun6	Feb 17 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever You Go		Feb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DNF 0.6.4 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.5 Released	Feb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oL9cSdw9Xh (dnf.baseurl.org)	Feb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqun7	Feb 17 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org \| DNF 0.6.4 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.5 Released \| DNF		Feb 17 12:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @devindthorpe followed @tuxmachines		Feb 17 12:43
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever...'		Feb 17 12:43
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'		Feb 17 12:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraph	Feb 17 12:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cI7F0ZU4sy (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 17 12:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqur3	Feb 17 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraph - Phoronix		Feb 17 12:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/sWzWyVJJWY	Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquss	Feb 17 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVt	Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqust	Feb 17 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Resistance to successors of #!	Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/p8Yxh6ddC4 (crunchbang.org)	Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqusu	Feb 17 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=419094#p419094 )		Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "It seems, that the passion of the community of	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	#! was too overwhelming..."	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BR6VuTJKYW	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	(digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk)	Feb 17 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk \| Digitallofice: #! is dead - Long live #!++		Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv3n	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	also see http://t.co/q8fp11QjUF	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	(androidheadlines.com)	Feb 17 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.idigitaltimes.com \| First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?		Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv3o	Feb 17 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-androidheadlines.com \| Ubuntu-Powered Meizu Handset Will Be Unveiled At MWC, Company's Official Teaser Confirms \| Androidheadlines.com		Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lw6PRkmLLd (www.linuxuser.co.uk)	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv3p	Feb 17 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk \| Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column \| Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generation		Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Screenshot Tour of Bodhi Linux 3.0.0	Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kwnsNEGMoX (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv44	Feb 17 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Officially Released, Uses the Numix Icons - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux Games	Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	For Dirt Cheap https://t.co/Z5wUu4vHY9	Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com) http://t.co/yEUPCBTkae	Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamasutra.com)	Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv46	Feb 17 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux Games For Dirt Cheap \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 17 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamasutra.com \| Gamasutra - Press Releases - Steam games for Windows, Mac and Linux – just 25 cents each in the new Trinity Bundle!		Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 17 years of defending open source: Join the OSI	Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	today http://t.co/bayC7upQKy	Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv48	Feb 17 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 17 years of defending open source: Join the OSI today \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open	Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	Source Experts http://t.co/0WNuj0djaU	Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv4p	Feb 17 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column	Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/alRgoYZqjx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv4q	Feb 17 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2+ years with network management in KDE	Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Gm94nImZnT (grulja.wordpress.com)	Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv4r	Feb 17 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grulja.wordpress.com \| 2+ years with network management in KDE \| Jan Grulich		Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	@rmsthebot @tuxmachines You should say GNU/Linux or	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	GNU+Linux.	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv6a	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Y6v9d7sU19 (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv6b	Feb 17 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance,	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	this time in the Philippines	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/q3laUGjTFK (www.phonearena.com)	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YqOkVDli8E (www.gmanetwork.com)	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv6c	Feb 17 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance, this time in the Philippines		Feb 17 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gmanetwork.com \| Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced below P5k \| SciTech \| GMA News Online		Feb 17 14:06
*TweetTuxMachines @HandsOnGeek followed @tuxmachines		Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where do we stand after 30 years after the	Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	founding of the Free Software Foundation?	Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CgpciLYsmz (opensource.com)	Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv76	Feb 17 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Interview with John Sullivan, Executive Director of Free Software Foundation \| Opensource.com		Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,	Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/SoU4zCz9Vy	Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid - Softpedia		Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv77	Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now	Feb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	Available on PCs http://t.co/YFkeMJ7Zsq	Feb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs - Softpedia		Feb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv7x	Feb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source	Feb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7Lj3MmEOVP (joinup.ec.europa.eu)	Feb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv7z	Feb 17 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu \| Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source \| Joinup		Feb 17 14:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open	Feb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	Source Experts http://t.co/Smq6BljUrW	Feb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Feb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvhr	Feb 17 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Feb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let It	Feb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwg	Feb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (techrights.org)	Feb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvc7	Feb 17 14:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Leftovers http://t.co/bnPE3aNWb0	Feb 17 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvko	Feb 17 15:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Softpedia's Screenshot Tours	Feb 17 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Lay4m26NZj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvkp	Feb 17 15:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVt	Feb 17 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Feb 17 15:08
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvk2	Feb 17 15:08
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611035	Feb 17 16:38
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schestowitz	"Because US politicians pushing for a nuclear war with Russia are a model of sanity."	Feb 17 16:38
schestowitz	They are the "insane we like", or "our kind of insane"	Feb 17 16:38
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XRevan86	schestowitz: I was wrong apparently, there is a data import in GNU social.	Feb 17 16:59
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MinceR	geekings	Feb 17 18:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth A	Feb 17 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	Look https://t.co/rgMQU7oKMk	Feb 17 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 17 18:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqwym	Feb 17 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth A Look \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 17 18:59
MinceR	http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/	Feb 17 19:03
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MinceR	http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-02-17	Feb 17 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilbert.com \| Elbonians Hacked Their Network - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2015-02-17 \| Dilbert by Scott Adams		Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open-source software aims to change game for	Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	smart facades http://t.co/rGxvrp9x5N	Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqx5x	Feb 17 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open-source software aims to change game for smart facades \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/WawMIl4I6L	Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqx60	Feb 17 19:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 17/2/2015: SystemD 219, Frugalware 2.0	Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	(Rigel) Released http://t.co/HzzV7k3Sgk	Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqx61	Feb 17 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 17/2/2015: SystemD 219, Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) Released \| Techrights		Feb 17 19:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Pj019nZPXR	Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxnm	Feb 17 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/YaiEg3t5nT	Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxns	Feb 17 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/XBpVyriDpG	Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxnv	Feb 17 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews	Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	TripleO http://t.co/y0yzy2snWV	Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxnx	Feb 17 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews TripleO \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015	Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8BxEhsKvgP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxnz	Feb 17 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015 \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hcOeLZW7kx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxo1	Feb 17 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2 \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SUSE Unveils Open Source Enterprise Storage	Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Ceph http://t.co/anodaO8bID	Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxo6	Feb 17 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SUSE Unveils Open Source Enterprise Storage Based on Ceph \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 20:52
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Sosumi	actually Putin has been dubbed an autist	Feb 17 21:02
Sosumi	but lol	Feb 17 21:02
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/how-omnipotent-hackers-tied-to-the-nsa-hid-for-14-years-and-were-found-at-last/	Feb 17 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| How “omnipotent” hackers tied to NSA hid for 14 years—and were found at last \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jqxqs ]		Feb 17 21:02
Sosumi	has anyone read it	Feb 17 21:02
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Sosumi	quite a sensational piece for an already known problem	Feb 17 21:03
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cubexyz	well it lives	Feb 17 21:05
cubexyz	got the ol' HP Laserjet 5N working again	Feb 17 21:06
Sosumi	defibrillated it? :)	Feb 17 21:06
cubexyz	had to turn on the parallel port on one box	Feb 17 21:06
cubexyz	cleaned it up, put in a refurbished toner cartridge	Feb 17 21:07
cubexyz	it fits in well with all the other old computers	Feb 17 21:08
Sosumi	:)	Feb 17 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Enters The Classroom	Feb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/28DQOxDIt2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxwx	Feb 17 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open Source Enters The Classroom \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app	Feb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oEF8IaEbT4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxx0	Feb 17 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP adds scale to open-source R in latest big	Feb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	data platform http://t.co/ZiyZwX8gjJ	Feb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxx1	Feb 17 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| HP adds scale to open-source R in latest big data platform \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for	Feb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/kFDQCDIjes	Feb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqy2j	Feb 17 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for Linux \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings	Feb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa	Feb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/c5BSxsP8Gc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqy2k	Feb 17 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 21:50
*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'HP adds scale to open-source R in latest...'		Feb 17 22:19
schestowitz	MinceR: https://twitter.com/TelegraphNews/status/567805786388242432	Feb 17 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TelegraphNews: Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban http://t.co/LSttpXUoku http://t.co/AgKy6Z5teo		Feb 17 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban - Telegraph		Feb 17 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TelegraphNews: Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban http://t.co/LSttpXUoku http://t.co/AgKy6Z5teo		Feb 17 22:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the	Feb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	Philippines in April 2015	Feb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/uuI8lfGGsE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqygk	Feb 17 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the Philippines in April 2015 \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.1 Lollipop Hitting Nexus Devices Soon	Feb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	Ahead of Motorola’s Smartphones!	Feb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hsbSOAv9kt (masterherald.com)	Feb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqygl	Feb 17 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-masterherald.com \| Android 5.1 Lollipop Hitting Nexus Devices Soon Ahead of Motorola’s Smartphones! \| Master Herald		Feb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hey, Samsung, LG And HTC—Shunning Android Wear	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	Is A Huge Mistake http://t.co/XY8dZENU0j	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	(readwrite.com)	Feb 17 22:53
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyid	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The four best lock screens for your Android	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	phone http://t.co/wWS4nUPqfw	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.greenbot.com)	Feb 17 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com \| The four best lock screens for your Android phone \| Greenbot		Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyif	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Any app that works with Android Wear now works	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	on your Pebble http://t.co/kUFpFD63TA	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.engadget.com)	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyig	Feb 17 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com \| Any app that works with Android Wear now works on your Pebble		Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AAcuF67xen (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyih	Feb 17 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2 \| ZDNet		Feb 17 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015	Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7D7BS444nb (www.linux.com) "been	Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	using Linux as my only OS since 2005"	Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqykr	Feb 17 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015 \| Linux.com		Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews	Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	TripleO http://t.co/ZYkRGD1XKU (www.eweek.com)	Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyks	Feb 17 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews TripleO		Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inspired by Linux, Pivotal to open-source bulk	Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	of big data suite http://t.co/jj8GLfHasF	Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Feb 17 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Inspired by Linux, Pivotal to open-source bulk of big data suite • The Register		Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyku	Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for	Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/EJG71ib5GY	Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) alas, proprietary	Feb 17 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for Linux - Softpedia		Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqymx	Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app	Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1Rw5YWlmiL (blogs.gnome.org)	Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqymy	Feb 17 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2015/02/17/first-fully-sandboxed-linux-desktop-app/ )		Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the	Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	Philippines in April 2015	Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CetLcfPA6V (www.tizenexperts.com)	Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	Android growing there too	Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Iot161U6bm (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqymz	Feb 17 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the Philippines in April 2015 - Tizen Experts		Feb 17 23:08
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660	Feb 18 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/		Feb 18 00:17
schestowitz	"#openhardware #FTW"	Feb 18 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/jqw71 ]		Feb 18 00:17
schestowitz	"This is why the Librem laptop I thought was a huge deal, it's creating the first real demand (with $) for Intel to open up the firmware code of their latest chips. That's a huge deal, as open firmware-wise on laptops we're stuck in the freaking Core Duo days right now."	Feb 18 00:18
schestowitz	Anything with Intel in it is already freedom-hostile by design :-)	Feb 18 00:18
cubexyz	librem is too expensive	Feb 18 00:20
cubexyz	but maybe the price will go down over time	Feb 18 00:21
cubexyz	Lemote had a Chinese debian-based distro called RAYS	Feb 18 00:26
cubexyz	so Lemote should work with Debian	Feb 18 00:26
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614884	Feb 18 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Need #Syriza in #Illinois http://www.thenation.com/article/198073/we-need-syriza-illinois "millionaire governor decrees austerity" #classwar #looting		Feb 18 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenation.com \| We Need Syriza in Illinois \| The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/jqz5d ]		Feb 18 00:29
schestowitz	"If austerity is so good then the US can have some."	Feb 18 00:29
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5613031	Feb 18 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wars can be construed as "creating jobs". Think of all the stuff that needs to be rebuilt. The "job creator" myth exploits mass ignorance.		Feb 18 00:29
schestowitz	"That sounds great! Let's create jobs in the US, I have heard there is high unemployment there."	Feb 18 00:29
MinceR	no, they should work with a distro that cares	Feb 18 00:31
MinceR	debian is not such a distro	Feb 18 00:31
cubexyz	the corebot devs want intel to drop verified boot in future	Feb 18 00:31
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cubexyz	there's a few distros which are based on debian wheezy that should be completely fine	Feb 18 00:33
cubexyz	wheezy supports amd64, armel, i386, ia64, mips, even s390 :)	Feb 18 00:34
cubexyz	and no systemd	Feb 18 00:34
cubexyz	at least antix doesn't use systemd	Feb 18 00:35
MinceR	gentoo still supports openrc	Feb 18 00:36
MinceR	slackware still doesn't use cancerd	Feb 18 00:36
cubexyz	indeed, one of the reasons I use vector linux, based on slackware	Feb 18 00:37
cubexyz	I'm still not sure what the deal is with Debian to be honest	Feb 18 00:38
MinceR	they jumped the shark	Feb 18 00:40
cubexyz	it seems very unlikely the IBM folks would use systemd	Feb 18 00:41
MinceR	i'm not sure if there are any IBM folks around	Feb 18 00:41
MinceR	they seem to have sold all the divisions that matter	Feb 18 00:41
cubexyz	well, I only mention that because debian has an s390 version	Feb 18 00:41
MinceR	they still have Rational making and selling atrocious crap	Feb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings	Feb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines	DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa	Feb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rXgIxczoer (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqz84	Feb 18 00:42
MinceR	and a few clueless suits cozying up with crApple	Feb 18 00:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/0cRfBfKwIF	Feb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 00:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hostkey rotation, redux http://t.co/Gutdvi5eD7	Feb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 00:42
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cubexyz	AntiX is based on wheezy, but it's sysvinit	Feb 18 00:44
cubexyz	so it seems that the default for wheezy is no systemd	Feb 18 00:45
cubexyz	Jessie, the immediate successor to Wheezy, defaults to systemd	Feb 18 00:46
cubexyz	if you want the old sysvinit you can still have it, but it's not the default	Feb 18 00:47
cubexyz	you might still have chunks of systemd in there though	Feb 18 00:47
MinceR	wheezy already has some systemd contamination in the form of libsystemd-daemon0 and libsystemd-login0	Feb 18 00:48
MinceR	but at least doesn't force systemd as pid1	Feb 18 00:48
cubexyz	I think you can just: apt-get remove libsystemd-login	Feb 18 00:50
cubexyz	I'll check on antix for libsystemd	Feb 18 00:50
cubexyz	I don't remember seeing it, but I'm not 100% sure	Feb 18 00:50
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cubexyz	yes, systemd is there but it's not being used by icewm	Feb 18 01:03
cubexyz	more research is needed	Feb 18 01:03
cubexyz	"apt-get remove systemd"	Feb 18 01:04
cubexyz	ok, trying that now	Feb 18 01:05
cubexyz	success	Feb 18 01:11
cubexyz	there's still a few bits of libsystemd stuff in here, but systemd wasn't necessary for anything I was running	Feb 18 01:11
cubexyz	one of the other window managers might need systemd for something, but not icewm	Feb 18 01:13
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Feb 18 01:52
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Feb 18 01:52
DaemonFC	Bill Hicks on Dan Quayle (who has his "vice presidential museum" here in Huntington).	Feb 18 01:52
DaemonFC	"Little Quayle Boy...Little Damian. Is that guy Damian? Tell me those blank empty eyes aren't gonna glow red in the near future. 'Stop making jokes about meeeeee! (makes Satanic snorting/growling noise) I'll spell potato any fucking way I want! (snorting, growling) Rioters in LA - Let's nuke 'em! Bush was a pussy! (snorting, growling) He held me back!"	Feb 18 01:52
DaemonFC	LMAO! Still funny after all these years. Must be because of all the hero worship of the one-term do nothing knucklehead that still goes on in Huntington. What a fucking waste of a town. These people are scum. If you ask me, the worst thing about meth....is that it doesn't kill 'em fast enough. I'm serious.	Feb 18 01:52
DaemonFC	Anyone...who does that to themselves.... I don't think we lost anything. You know? "Duh! Let's smoke crystal meth! Let's fry our brain and die in six months because we live in a town that could easily be mistaken for one of Satan's anal warts! Woohoo!"	Feb 18 01:54
MinceR	gn	Feb 18 02:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why should you consider using a Linux-based	Feb 18 02:27
TweetTuxMachines	system for music making? http://t.co/WnedxbYMLJ	Feb 18 02:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.musicradar.com)	Feb 18 02:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 17/2/2015: TripleO, Pivotal	Feb 18 02:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2pZIUruZKJ (techrights.org)	Feb 18 02:27
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615391	Feb 18 09:02
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schestowitz	"I LOVE LMMS."	Feb 18 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why should you consider using a Linux-based	Feb 18 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	system for music making? http://t.co/yIbtdqwe8E	Feb 18 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 09:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On Steam	Feb 18 09:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GvhzxZkoEb (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 18 09:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| 2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On Steam \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kodi 14.2 Beta 1 Finally Fixes the Scanning of	Feb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	Newly Added Episodes and More	Feb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7Uf3E6Yhj2 (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr25u	Feb 18 09:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenMorrowind Is an Ambitious Remake of The	Feb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind for Linux	Feb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/d0F50fQzEc (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 09:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| OpenMorrowind Is an Ambitious Remake of The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind for Linux - Softpedia		Feb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Pebble Became The Cheapest Android	Feb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	Smartwatch Around http://t.co/nokV3W1uMG	Feb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	(readwrite.com)	Feb 18 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-readwrite.com \|		Feb 18 09:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Android-Based Messaging Apps for	Feb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	Enterprises http://t.co/ns8KftLagp	Feb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.junauza.com)	Feb 18 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.junauza.com \| Best Android-Based Messaging Apps for Enterprises \| TechSource		Feb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr2hr	Feb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "The KDE 5_15.02 increment contains the KDE	Feb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	Frameworks 5.7.0, Plasma 5.2.0 and Applications	Feb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	14.12.2." http://t.co/8j7dGkouhR	Feb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	(alien.slackbook.org)	Feb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr2ht	Feb 18 09:52
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615018	Feb 18 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open Source Enters The Classroom http://talkincloud.com/cloud-computing/02172015/open-source-enters-classroom #education #freesw		Feb 18 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> talkincloud.com \| Open Source Enters The Classroom \| Cloud Computing content from Talkin' Cloud [ http://ur1.ca/jr2l5 ]		Feb 18 10:08
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 10:08
schestowitz	The author assumes the role of schooling is to prepare students to "enter the workforce" and that they "must ensure they teach students the skills that businesses want".	Feb 18 10:08
schestowitz	As an IT teacher, I think that's total bullshit. I have refused to teach proprietary software in my classes since 2001. I don't see my school as a training center.	Feb 18 10:08
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 10:08
schestowitz	For private businesses at taxpayers' expense	Feb 18 10:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5607175	Feb 18 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #Systemd from #Debian (and still running a desktop) http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/		Feb 18 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lkcl.net \| Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]		Feb 18 10:09
schestowitz	"Today I do not feel like warring about systemd. =)"	Feb 18 10:09
schestowitz	"So.... which one's better? Emacs or Vi?"	Feb 18 10:09
schestowitz	nano	Feb 18 10:09
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615220	Feb 18 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #systemd https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html "notice the "responses" from the systemd crowd" -iophk		Feb 18 10:09
schestowitz	"Challenging people's religion."	Feb 18 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lists.debian.org \| Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jr2le ]		Feb 18 10:09
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611917	Feb 18 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Retroactively shielding E-mail from #surveillance is not possible. The #uk has had (for many years) US bases that harvest, retain all mail.		Feb 18 10:10
schestowitz	"sure, you only eliminate your own access or delete your own copy."	Feb 18 10:10
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660	Feb 18 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/		Feb 18 10:10
schestowitz	";-) that's why they have got this special logo - to surround and thereby highlite the problem... :-/ "	Feb 18 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/jqw71 ]		Feb 18 10:10
schestowitz	Smoking kills	Feb 18 10:10
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611853	Feb 18 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Learning from #redhat (and Fedora) staff that Red hat pushes patches from #nsa directly into #linux using redhatcom addresses was shocking.		Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz	"Playing cover for NSA? That is shocking. Your contact should go to Wikileaks with the evidence. If true, it's a betrayal to the whole free software community."	Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz	I would venture a guess that in most of the world outside of the US, the NSA is seen as a completely out of control orwellian nightmare, but as I said, at least the code is open source, documented, versioned and can be traced back to original authors, meaning it's a single-opportunity game: you can try to break the rules, but if we catch you just once, either because of code review or because a customer noticed spyware-like behaviour	Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz	when policing his network traffic, you're out forever.	Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz	We use AES, for example, under the same terms/circumstances.	Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz	There are much more worrying things like special spyware electronics on hard drives, motherboards and CPUs that aren't as easy to detect or weed out, like UEFI etc.	Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz	Choose what you worry about carefully: there's a lot more to worry about that there is worry to go around. ;)	Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz	Critical flaws do get found, even in FOSS. We need to check where they come from and why.	Feb 18 10:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Nvidia's Android-powered Shield tablet	Feb 18 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	is actually great for gaming	Feb 18 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rRyUCG4Raa (www.networkworld.com)	Feb 18 10:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Review: Nvidia's Android-powered Shield tablet is great for gaming		Feb 18 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KF5 Porting Progress https://t.co/BmdRKFXy73	Feb 18 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	(kdepepo.wordpress.com)	Feb 18 10:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdepepo.wordpress.com \| KF5 Porting Progress \| Keeping Computing Personal		Feb 18 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.20 To Land VirtIO 1.0 Implementation	Feb 18 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZnoMxThclD (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 18 10:14
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*TweetTuxMachines @Gaming_Central9 followed @tuxmachines		Feb 18 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Enea Linux and System Management on the	Feb 18 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	ARMv8-Based AMD Embedded R-Series Processor	Feb 18 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1Zl7bq8XAg (www.businesswire.com)	Feb 18 10:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com \| Enea Linux and System Management on the ARMv8-Based AMD Embedded R-Series Processor \| Business Wire		Feb 18 10:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE –	Feb 18 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	report http://t.co/azRXO0NsaM	Feb 18 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Feb 18 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE – report • The Register		Feb 18 10:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCompris Complex App Ported to Ubuntu for	Feb 18 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	Phones http://t.co/3NWfeolcFQ	Feb 18 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 10:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Humble Weekly Bundle: For Lovers Is a Bizarre	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	Mix of Japanese Games and Real Pillowcases	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0iennIEHei (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	Support http://t.co/6PN3eqUhJ3	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 18 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel http://t.co/yqRFol5PSF	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 18 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Mark Shuttleworth clearly feels that what	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	consumers and developers need, they will in	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	time learn to want." http://t.co/OCu0Ot4ySw	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techcentral.co.za)	Feb 18 11:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techcentral.co.za \| Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite? \| TechCentral		Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu's foray into phones brings a fresh	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	approach, but will consumers take to it?	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)	Feb 18 11:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu's foray into phones brings a fresh	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	approach, but will consumers take to it?	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)	Feb 18 11:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NGINX: The secret heart of the modern web	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/THyZ0mpHrK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 11:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| NGINX: The secret heart of the modern web \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	Soon http://t.co/mV5oqJqZGM	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 11:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	Support http://t.co/7N4A2tAFSs	Feb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 11:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20	Feb 18 11:51
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel http://t.co/DSZFktQArX	Feb 18 11:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite?	Feb 18 11:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20	Feb 18 14:21
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Sosumi	that new exymos powered S6 really promises	Feb 18 15:08
Sosumi	I just hope battery life is good	Feb 18 15:08
Sosumi	and that samsung isn't cheating benchmarks	Feb 18 15:08
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MinceR	http://www.cracked.com/article_22028_3-realities-life-as-gamer-in-modern-dictatorship.html	Feb 18 17:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions	Feb 18 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TCNulVKWFp (www.oregonlive.com)	Feb 18 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	adding antifeatures not good. LOCs not a good	Feb 18 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oregonlive.com \| Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions \| OregonLive.com		Feb 18 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	yardstick.	Feb 18 18:02
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614232	Feb 18 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/17/cia-controlling-climate-geoengineering-climate-change #climate #warfare		Feb 18 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry \| Alan Robock \| Comment is free \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jr5j7 ]		Feb 18 18:29
schestowitz	"#WTF - The only thing I heard about this is NASA and Terraforming a planet."	Feb 18 18:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/568114361983569921	Feb 18 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Obvious concept & suspicion...but Case-in-Point, please.		Feb 18 18:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very	Feb 18 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	Soon http://t.co/wlMpiKuDqj	Feb 18 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions	Feb 18 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 ways to get involved with Humanitarian FOSS	Feb 18 19:04
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568132157824212992 https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568146863171497984 https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568147223625764864	Feb 18 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: 1st day at work fail RT @schestowitz: "Which moron wrote this brainless sh*t?" Martin Eller, Microsoft programmer about Bill Gates' own code		Feb 18 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz : )) I am sure he didn't! Otherwise I doubt he would have the guts to say so!		Feb 18 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz Funny incident anyways & a reminder that is better to ask before criticizing... ; )		Feb 18 20:45
cubexyz	Eller is an old old microsoftie	Feb 18 20:58
cubexyz	a pity the way things went... Unix should have won	Feb 18 20:59
cubexyz	it kind of did... but it kind of didn't	Feb 18 20:59
cubexyz	Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, funded (of course) by Microsoft	Feb 18 21:06
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cubexyz	btw Eller did say that.. read "Barbarians Led by Bill Gates" written by Edstrom and Eller himself	Feb 18 21:18
cubexyz	so technically we had an encumbered Western Electric License for Universities for Unix v5/v6 in 1975	Feb 18 21:22
cubexyz	two 9 track 800 bpi magnetic tapes, containing the binary code of Unix, plus source code, user manual, programmer's manual, c reference manual, unix assembler reference manual	Feb 18 21:23
cubexyz	so you could look at the source, play around with it, write programs on a PDP-11	Feb 18 21:23
cubexyz	but you technically could not share code with other people	Feb 18 21:24
cubexyz	a giant missed opportunity... Unix is closed off for a number of years, Microsoft rises up and a dark ages of computing occurs, probably until 2002 or so	Feb 18 21:26
cubexyz	no gcc until 1987	Feb 18 21:27
cubexyz	and I definitely remember hearing about it back then, but it was mostly the closed source era back then	Feb 18 21:27
cubexyz	so yeah, 25 year botch up in the operating system space	Feb 18 21:28
cubexyz	ACK, the original compiler for Minix, also closed source at the time	Feb 18 21:30
cubexyz	so yes, GNU gcc was a huge step forward	Feb 18 21:31
cubexyz	386 chip was released in 1985, so we _could_ have had a FOSS operating system in the 80's	Feb 18 21:35
cubexyz	but what did we actually get? Xenix for $$$ and your c compiler probably cost at least $200	Feb 18 21:37
cubexyz	that was in the late 80s	Feb 18 21:37
cubexyz	I suppose if you were rich you could have had Unix on a PDP-11/45 in the 1970s with all the source code for everything	Feb 18 21:38
cubexyz	but no community, not outside of Bell Labs	Feb 18 21:39
schestowitz	barcelona football team is here on tuesday to play man city, so you might wanna watch it. I'll be flying to germany when the game kicks off.	Feb 18 22:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5619788	Feb 18 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There is something #disturbing about #intel portraying itself as top FOSS player for merely giving self-serving patches to hardware-tied SW.		Feb 18 22:12
schestowitz	"Welcome to most contributions to the Linux kernel? That's par for the course."	Feb 18 22:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015]	Feb 18 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6EoBnPSI76 (www.linuxveda.com)	Feb 18 22:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!		Feb 18 22:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People	Feb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/hPaYf6sXIY	Feb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 22:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People Ubuntu Basics \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,	Feb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/8I2GUhPbgJ	Feb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 22:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19, Starting 9 AM CET \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving	Feb 18 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	car project http://t.co/yShLsFMV2Z	Feb 18 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 22:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving car project \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 22:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly	Feb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation	Feb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iIv90tuQ3i (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 23:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora Comes Bursting With Extras	Feb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0UeFeni7yY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 23:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Korora Comes Bursting With Extras \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle"	Feb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	in its history." http://t.co/6bMwhUDLmF	Feb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines	(arstechnica.com)	Feb 18 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Linux has 2,000 new developers and gets 10,000 patches for each version \| Ars Technica		Feb 18 23:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0?	Feb 18 23:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CoLrEn6A6c (linuxgizmos.com) looks	Feb 18 23:11
TweetTuxMachines	likely at this stage	Feb 18 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0? · LinuxGizmos.com		Feb 18 23:11
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161604912746496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161869967568896 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568162070753099776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163197301202945	Feb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Killing in Washington State Offers ‘Ferguson’ Moment for Hispanics http://t.co/jB7ZIUc8dw highly disproportionate use of force by #police		Feb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times		Feb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Asymmetric warfare methods used by US military are now being pointed inwards, allowing #us #police to do more or less the same to USians		Feb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Finally, and most obviously, you have to start by building trust, which will necessarily require a transition" https://t.co/HA5ZKjVYc7		Feb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/02/17/the-secret-squirrels-pitching-countering-violent-extremism/ )		Feb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is Microsoft now providing journalists handouts to spread the lie that Microsoft loves Linux, OSS, etc.? It smacks of that.		Feb 18 23:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lightweight/status/568159923676127233 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163670041223168 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568172713157783552 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568173213534068736 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183180387323905	Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: If any of this is true, it shows that the Microsoft we know and don't love hasn't changed its stripes. http://t.co/AgoS83PHh9		Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Microsoft Reportedly Uses Patent Blackmail Against Android to Force Samsung to Spread Microsoft Spyware (Incorporated Into Android) (Updated) \| Techrights		Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #gigaom which was paid by #microsoft for secret ads continues to openwash the company. Om Malik, how much does #Nadella bribe you now?		Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015] http://t.co/VTAPM7r2t1 very detailed		Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com \| How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!		Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #linux fosters cooperation between companies http://t.co/uO6eTcWLbO http://t.co/bUhAr10bgh http://t.co/GgvUop8qVp		Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com \| Linux Kernel Report: More Contributors Than Ever \| Linux.com		Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com \| Who's writing Linux today? Capitalists \| ZDNet		Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com \| More than 80% of Linux kernel development is paid by companies! - Linux Veda		Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Those in Power learned from experience that (bar framing) by attacking those who publish documents & obey law they just legitimise them more		Feb 18 23:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183713554669568 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183976701140993 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568184152194981888	Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics http://t.co/IBvnFXCSn9 #freesw #hp		Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.informationweek.com \| HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics - InformationWeek		Feb 18 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle" in its history." http://t.co/3sAFzLWSUs #kernel #linux		Feb 18 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is #Linux heading toward the big 4.0? http://t.co/KdmSvPta3T looks likely at this stage		Feb 18 23:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/568185111201492993	Feb 18 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz @DefTechPat even worse, it sounds like they just don't care, if a hardcoded password saves them maintenance costs. 😣		Feb 18 23:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,	Feb 18 23:26
TweetTuxMachines	Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/1rA3igF9ln	Feb 18 23:26
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com) http://t.co/vSGZFVWsys	Feb 18 23:26
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TweetTuxMachines	(linuxg.net)	Feb 18 23:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| The Next BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Flash Sale Starts Tomorrow At 9 AM CET \| LinuxG.net		Feb 18 23:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People	Feb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/UnpMbJSvqs	Feb 18 23:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold	Feb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	Member http://t.co/3Z7M3EnScu	Feb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxveda.com) Wall Street betting on	Feb 18 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux Veda		Feb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	linux as the future	Feb 18 23:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows up	Feb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Q6CJLVC8QY (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 18 23:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows up \| ZDNet		Feb 18 23:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving	Feb 18 23:30
TweetTuxMachines	car project http://t.co/5GfvJ7eSOD	Feb 18 23:30
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Feb 18 23:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora Comes Bursting With Extras	Feb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1TVJNtWYyP (www.linuxinsider.com)	Feb 18 23:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| Korora Comes Bursting With Extras \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Feb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly	Feb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation	Feb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sJf9BLbyUS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 23:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Should Linux distro developers expect to be	Feb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	paid for their work? http://t.co/qzvYt5I2Sg	Feb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	(jimlynch.com) what elementaryos does is fine,	Feb 18 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com \| Should Linux distro developers expect to be paid for their work? \| Jim Lynch		Feb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	working was poor	Feb 18 23:37
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msb	cubexyz: I remember a lot of C code being broadcast on Usenet, I think in the 1980s, and archived on Simtel20 at White Sands AFB (I think).	Feb 19 00:06
msb	cubexyz: It was for Unix.	Feb 19 00:07
cubexyz	yes simtel20 which originally ran on TOPS-20, but now defunct	Feb 19 00:14
cubexyz	it's on http://archive.org	Feb 19 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org \| Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine		Feb 19 00:15
cubexyz	but archive.org is down at the moment	Feb 19 00:15
cubexyz	lots of unix v5 era code was lost	Feb 19 00:23
cubexyz	I've tried to find some for the last 4 years	Feb 19 00:23
msb	I think this open-source code was developed and used by Unix users in universities -- an early Unix community.	Feb 19 00:24
cubexyz	there's some usenix tapes	Feb 19 00:25
msb	cubexyz: Isn't there an alternate archive.org in South America somewhere?	Feb 19 00:26
cubexyz	msb, you have a URL for that?	Feb 19 00:28
msb	cubexyz: I'm looking for one.	Feb 19 00:29
msb	The wiki article on archive.org says it has a backup in Bibliotheca Alexandrina in Egypt. Maybe that's it.	Feb 19 00:30
msb	archive.bibalex.org	Feb 19 00:32
cubexyz	ok, archive.org is back now :)	Feb 19 00:34
msb	this is the ancient one -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria -- destroyed at various times by Romans and Christians.	Feb 19 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jr7u2 ]		Feb 19 00:37
msb	Mentioned in _Cosmos_ by Carl Sagan.	Feb 19 00:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is Better	Feb 19 00:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date	Feb 19 00:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the	Feb 19 00:39
TweetTuxMachines	Skies http://t.co/WyFbLWkSK8 (www.linux.com)	Feb 19 00:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7uq	Feb 19 00:39
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cubexyz	destroyed at various times? Destroyed more than once?	Feb 19 00:40
msb	cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#Destruction	Feb 19 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/g49b6 ]		Feb 19 00:40
msb	various parts and sets of books.	Feb 19 00:40
msb	Moslems finished the job in 642, because the remaining books weren't the Koran.	Feb 19 00:41
msb	JCI religion is the scourge of mankind.	Feb 19 00:42
MinceR	> religion is the scourge of mankind.	Feb 19 00:42
MinceR	FTFY	Feb 19 00:42
cubexyz	I'll settle for some Unix v5 source code	Feb 19 00:42
msb	No -- Wicca is beneficial.	Feb 19 00:43
cubexyz	Unix version 1 was almost lost, part of it was	Feb 19 00:44
cubexyz	the only reason why we have part of it is that there was a book that had the source code listings	Feb 19 00:44
cubexyz	magtape isn't too great for long-term storage	Feb 19 00:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date	Feb 19 00:48
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msb	Poettering: "Just the other day, some idiot posted a "song" on youtube, a creepy work, filled with expletives about me and suggestions of violence."	Feb 19 01:05
msb	I can't find it. Anybody have it?	Feb 19 01:05
MinceR	never heard of it	Feb 19 01:05
msb	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0aTqsl-vfU	Feb 19 01:18
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msb	"You took our thing and now we ain't got it no more"	Feb 19 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Systemd Gets An Fsck Daemon/Service	Feb 19 01:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the	Feb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines	Skies http://t.co/2SI1cUhEF5	Feb 19 01:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects	Feb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines	Google's Material Design http://t.co/Z12CqR8vLe	Feb 19 01:38
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MinceR	gn	Feb 19 01:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 18/2/2015: Linux Report, FlightGear 3.4	Feb 19 02:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects	Feb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines	Google's Material Design http://t.co/VLdtbhhwjm	Feb 19 02:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/vp2QXHfsA6	Feb 19 02:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/hMJz5f5AIr	Feb 19 02:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/hxwRwJGRRN	Feb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 02:03
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2CJT4UEKKJRK	Feb 19 04:03
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msb	It's just a simple business deal. Rich people give the politicians money, and the pols lower their taxes. Nobody else matters.	Feb 19 04:17
msb	But it's important to remember that Democrat politicians often do similar things to serve the rich, e.g., attacking Palestine, Serbia, Libya, Ukraine, Venezuela.	Feb 19 04:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/My9JY4FG68	Feb 19 04:23
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621836	Feb 19 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Over time fewer people grasp that Russia lost around x20 more than US in WW2 (people), US came very late to claim landslide victory		Feb 19 08:21
schestowitz__	"After having spent considerable time playing both sides of the fence until it was no longer fashionable, and then "winning" by being the only "peaceful" nation to use nuclear weapons."	Feb 19 08:21
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621898	Feb 19 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To portray #intel as company that deserves credit for #linux rise is misleading. Linux was rising, Intel co-opts it. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel		Feb 19 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Intel - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/jraln ]		Feb 19 08:22
schestowitz__	"Well at least they are participating!"	Feb 19 08:22
schestowitz__	"Microsoft participates too! :)'	Feb 19 08:22
schestowitz__	The "new Microsoft"	Feb 19 08:22
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621993	Feb 19 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/810883-dronecode-taking-the-internet-to-the-skies/ #dronecode #linux #freesw		Feb 19 08:23
schestowitz__	" "What we essentially did was weaponize Lego with my children around the dining room table," Anderson said."	Feb 19 08:23
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622092	Feb 19 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nike is now patenting software http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/fashion/nike-patents-augmented-reality-shoe-design-system-article-1.2118548 #swpats from an evil company (lots of abuses)		Feb 19 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nydailynews.com \| Nike patents augmented reality shoe design software - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/jram5 ]		Feb 19 08:24
schestowitz__	"I wonder how this will affect what is happening in the world of Doc M's"	Feb 19 08:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux Kernel	Feb 19 10:06
TweetTuxMachines	Report http://t.co/DJfY77ndNS (www.linux.com)	Feb 19 10:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb5k	Feb 19 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux Kernel Report \| Linux.com		Feb 19 10:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The 8 best desktop environments for Linux	Feb 19 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/R7bmoBNsLM (www.itworld.com)	Feb 19 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb5l	Feb 19 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com \| The 8 best desktop environments for Linux \| ITworld		Feb 19 10:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition	Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	Phone Starts in Less than an Hour	Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7OHcrbAARm (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb94	Feb 19 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Phone Starts in Less than an Hour - Update - Softpedia		Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release Adds	Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy Fixes	Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/93TvEbga5n (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb95	Feb 19 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release Adds Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy Fixes - Softpedia		Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default Document	Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	Viewer App, Released http://t.co/kN49e0kqK6	Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb96	Feb 19 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default Document Viewer App, Released - Softpedia		Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appears	Feb 19 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	– but we have no idea what’s in store	Feb 19 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Z0547Imsoa (bgr.com)	Feb 19 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrba3	Feb 19 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appears – but we have no idea what’s in store \| BGR		Feb 19 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Decrypt Android Wear with these 16 essential	Feb 19 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	tips and tricks http://t.co/z65UPQUmDL	Feb 19 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com)	Feb 19 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| 16 Essential Android Wear Tips and Tricks \| Digital Trends		Feb 19 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrba4	Feb 19 10:27
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition...'		Feb 19 10:27
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*TweetTuxMachines @AlterNet_io favourited 'Decrypt Android Wear with these 16 essential tips...'		Feb 19 10:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel build times for automated builders	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Dp1z1KFsfT (www.sirena.org.uk) an	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	interesting comparison for linux	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdf	Feb 19 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sirena.org.uk \| Kernel build times for automated builders < Technicalities		Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First Person	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Horror Will Support Linux	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/peUmqHgQOR (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdg	Feb 19 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First Person Horror Will Support Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements for	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Windows Management and More	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/E2mSk5oVLE (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdh	Feb 19 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements for Windows Management and More - Softpedia		Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance and	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Battery Life	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zJJd6Gl2Hk (www.techspot.com)	Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdi	Feb 19 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techspot.com \| Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance and Battery Life - TechSpot		Feb 19 10:40
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621937	Feb 19 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be infeasible for the #cia to drive around sceptical nations with cameras, photographing everything and harvesting MAC addresses.		Feb 19 11:01
schestowitz	"Google cars were fined in France for sniffing WiFi years ago"	Feb 19 11:01
schestowitz	maybe after the data collected had been copied via PRISM to entities that cannot be fined or have their data erased	Feb 19 11:01
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622064	Feb 19 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "You can see propaganda being manufactured before your eyes" http://fair.org/blog/2015/02/18/most-americans-agree-that-netanyahu-the-only-one-who-can-save-the-puppy-should-save-the-puppy/ #zionism in #bloomberg		Feb 19 11:12
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 11:12
schestowitz	A CNN/ORC poll suggests that a large majority opposes the invitation. Further, according to the poll, support for Israel is dwindling.	Feb 19 11:12
schestowitz	http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/17/politics/poll-netanyahu-speech-opposition/	Feb 19 11:12
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 11:12
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621007	Feb 19 11:13
schestowitz	"Fake fight, fake narrative, to roll-out (announce) 1984. I need Google (what a fun name; maybe they should spell it with goofy fonts and lots of colors...)... I need Google to look after my privacy, and other rights, like a ho needs a pimp's protection and bookkeeping services."	Feb 19 11:13
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621071	Feb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fair.org \| Most Americans Agree That Netanyahu, the Only One Who Can Save the Puppy, Should Save the Puppy [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjx ]		Feb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnn.com \| CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjy ]		Feb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/google-calls-fbi-s-plan-to-expand-hacking-power-a-monumental-constitutional-threat-20150218 painting self as "resistor"		Feb 19 11:13
schestowitz	"Holder is a pig."	Feb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nationaljournal.com \| Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat - NationalJournal.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjz ]		Feb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ericholder a hypocrite that carries water for Power http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/17/eric-holder-death-penalty_n_6701062.html he doesn't really care about innocents. #drones #risen		Feb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com \| Eric Holder: Moratorium On Death Penalty 'Would Be Appropriate' Pending Supreme Court Decision [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk0 ]		Feb 19 11:13
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621753	Feb 19 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/02/18/bloomberg-joins-linux-foundation-as-gold-member/ Wall Street betting on #linux as the future		Feb 19 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com \| Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux Veda [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk3 ]		Feb 19 11:14
schestowitz	"Barf"	Feb 19 11:14
schestowitz	Indeed, but at least it helps Linux	Feb 19 11:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614505	Feb 19 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 3 white people planning mass murder in a mall and then shooting themselves not much different from suicide bombing. Canada says not terror.		Feb 19 11:15
schestowitz	"The media assumes gamers are misogynist terrorists, so I'm not surprised at that. Still doesn't mean we should extend the definition just so that anyone also could be "legitimately" be called terrorists."	Feb 19 11:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Beam's Android-powered projector fits in your	Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	light sockets http://t.co/iFmxYfzaHD	Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.engadget.com)	Feb 19 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com \| Beam's Android-powered projector fits in your light sockets		Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrblo	Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen Systems	Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	Might Get a Linux Version	Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rExpoDNUOy (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	nice graphics.	Feb 19 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen Systems Might Get a Linux Version - Softpedia		Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrblp	Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux kernel is the biggest collaborative	Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	software project on the planet"	Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aSFAlYmvZS (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrblq	Feb 19 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| The Linux Foundation Shows Us Just How Massive the Kernel Development Really Is - Softpedia		Feb 19 11:23
msb	Netanyahu speech: "it's not hard to get many people to respond the way you want to a loaded question" especially when they've been flooded with 60+ years of lying Zionist propaganda in all their newspapers and broadcast media.	Feb 19 12:16
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 12:27
schestowitz	Our first case deals with Mr. Rikard Frgacic.	Feb 19 12:27
schestowitz	We sent you some background stuff about this previously but here's a short recap.	Feb 19 12:27
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 12:27
MinceR	geekings	Feb 19 12:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese New	Feb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines	Year http://t.co/D39b1hCbtW (techrights.org)	Feb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc3c	Feb 19 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese New Year \| Techrights		Feb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent	Feb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines	increase http://t.co/6nVelQaIzo	Feb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc3e	Feb 19 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent increase \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/mKmM4yD0y2	Feb 19 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5d	Feb 19 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/eamP4UbThA	Feb 19 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5e	Feb 19 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/cXiLWGnfGa	Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5f	Feb 19 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19	Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines	Very Soon http://t.co/VaYzfl4Fz8	Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5g	Feb 19 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19 Very Soon \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 13:11
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schestowitz	"We hope that the above comments will be of some assistance to you in evaluating any material that you get about these cases."	Feb 19 13:23
schestowitz	heh. I got a great article coming...	Feb 19 13:24
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schestowitz	"What can you tell the waiting public about the Microsoft associates on the board of the Linux Foundation"	Feb 19 15:31
schestowitz	"Are they on the Board?"	Feb 19 15:31
schestowitz	"I got this from Tech Rights which was a little unclear on the subject"	Feb 19 15:31
schestowitz	They are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worse	Feb 19 15:32
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/can-suepo-sue-epo-it-now-seems-so.html	Feb 19 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk \| The IPKat: Can SUEPO sue EPO? It now seems so ... [ http://ur1.ca/jrcym ]		Feb 19 15:32
schestowitz	" A translation of the decision will make very interesting reading, sending EPAs scurrying to read those parts of the Convention which they have in the past ignored. Does the Protocol Article 3(4) restrict the immunity only to those activities of the EPO "strictly necessary for its administrative and technical operation"? We shall see. Interesting reference to the Srebrenica decision as well."	Feb 19 15:32
schestowitz	" Yes,Merpel, your understanding of the document is correct. An appeal against this decision (to be lodged with the Hoge Raad) cannot result in the overturning of the finding of the Gerechtshof, unless a procedural violation has been committed by the latter. The Hoge Raad can only cassate a decision (beslissing) if the second instance did not apply the law correctly."	Feb 19 15:33
schestowitz	"This is a great day. "	Feb 19 15:33
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:33
schestowitz	I think that's the begining of the end of Battistelli reign.	Feb 19 15:33
schestowitz	When it will explode, it will create a scandal bigger that the Edith Cresson scandal (another French) at the European Commission in 1999. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/1425715/Cresson-charged-four-years-after-European-Union-fraud-scandal.html).	Feb 19 15:33
schestowitz	Edith Cresson only appointed a friend (and it created a scandal).... Battistelli does 100 times worst.	Feb 19 15:33
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk \| Cresson charged four years after European Union fraud scandal - Telegraph		Feb 19 15:33
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:34
schestowitz	As we read the various comments from the anonymice, keep in mind, dear Reader, that a comment that gives every appearance of coming from an EPO Examiner might in fact be disinformation coming from a crony of the President. And vice versa, of course.	Feb 19 15:34
schestowitz	Already there is stuff on the other thread that seems to come from SUEPO head-bangers. Does it really? I'm skeptical.	Feb 19 15:34
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:34
schestowitz	LOL	Feb 19 15:34
schestowitz	"They are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worse"	Feb 19 15:44
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:44
schestowitz	Other correspondants have confirmed this	Feb 19 15:44
schestowitz	here is a Fwd:-	Feb 19 15:44
schestowitz	"A quick surf shows they joined the Allseen Alliance, which is an IoT	Feb 19 15:44
schestowitz	group, which is managed by the LF.	Feb 19 15:44
schestowitz	I don't see them listed on the LF members page itself though - so they	Feb 19 15:44
schestowitz	may have joined an LF sub-group but not the LF as a whole (that is,	Feb 19 15:44
schestowitz	paying the LF membership etc.).	Feb 19 15:45
schestowitz	Graham "	Feb 19 15:45
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:45
schestowitz	yes, indeed	Feb 19 15:45
schestowitz	Don't forget OpenDaylight and Foundry	Feb 19 15:45
schestowitz	Neela and Ramji	Feb 19 15:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/568436956830380032	Feb 19 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz It's amazing that Microsoft still manages to dominate large hardware-oriented corporations. That indicates limited competition!		Feb 19 15:57
schestowitz	Some hardware companies like HP are stuffed to the rim (at exec level) with 'former' Microsoft execs	Feb 19 15:57
cubexyz	HP used to have their own minicomputers	Feb 19 16:03
cubexyz	HP-UX is still being updated	Feb 19 16:06
cubexyz	actually the 'old' HP was Unix friendly	Feb 19 16:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/johnmarker005/status/568439201655492608	Feb 19 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnmarker005: @schestowitz Kindly retweet this amazing Google-patent pending lock screen app:https://t.co/PHjzjXlPOP Video:https://t.co/qChtLcAZJ7		Feb 19 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> play.google.com \| App Locker with Guest Mode - Android Apps on Google Play		Feb 19 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com \| Smart Screen Plus Application Locker - Why do you need one - YouTube		Feb 19 16:08
cubexyz	HP used to support Redhat & SUSE and they had a Unix support program in Greeley Colorado	Feb 19 16:09
cubexyz	that was disbanded in August 1st, 2001	Feb 19 16:10
cubexyz	PCL (for printers) and SCL (for scanners) was completely supported in Unix/Linux	Feb 19 16:11
cubexyz	and guess what happened?	Feb 19 16:13
cubexyz	SCL was discontinued...	Feb 19 16:13
cubexyz	PCL 6 was optimized for windows	Feb 19 16:13
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cubexyz	I think PCL 6 is still supported by CUPS though	Feb 19 16:14
cubexyz	PCL 6 'enhanced' was designed to match the drawing model of Windows GDI	Feb 19 16:15
cubexyz	all this was foreshadowed in the Halloween Documents	Feb 19 16:16
cubexyz	so old Microsofties at HP exec level does not surprise me at all	Feb 19 16:17
cubexyz	also blame RealTek for some of this nonsense...	Feb 19 16:18
cubexyz	RTS8891 chip had no programming documentation, typical of post 2001 scanners	Feb 19 16:19
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cubexyz	on the other side of the coin Epson scanners all just work with Linux	Feb 19 16:21
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cubexyz	maybe the old Microsofties will kill off HP-UX	Feb 19 16:29
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cubexyz	here's an idea... why doesn't the FSF start making their own hardware :)	Feb 19 16:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/568450899665924096	Feb 19 16:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: Microsoft's Trojan horse strategy to rule the world http://t.co/je6nIlO3oI cc/@schestowitz #TheCloudIsTheAPI #FogComputing		Feb 19 16:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techrepublic.com \| Microsoft's Trojan horse strategy to rule the world - TechRepublic		Feb 19 16:52
cubexyz	just don't give Microsoft any money	Feb 19 16:57
cubexyz	there's a simple rule :)	Feb 19 16:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/568454886230077440	Feb 19 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz I'm thinking "Linux" should engulf Microsoft and take on Mac OS X.		Feb 19 17:13
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'The 8 best desktop environments for Linux http://t.co/R7bmoBNsLM'		Feb 19 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com \| The 8 best desktop environments for Linux \| ITworld		Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma Media Center at Plasma Sprint 2015	Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/85sbn1MtcC (bhush9.github.io)	Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	great writing style.	Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrdq6	Feb 19 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bhush9.github.io \| Plasma Media Center at Plasma Sprint 2015		Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent	Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	increase http://t.co/Bfmc4BcE97	Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.itproportal.com)	Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrdq7	Feb 19 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com \| Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent increase \| ITProPortal.com		Feb 19 17:26
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-honestly-thought-youd-enjoy-that-superfish-https-spyware/	Feb 19 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Lenovo honestly thought you’d enjoy that Superfish HTTPS spyware \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jrdrl ]		Feb 19 17:31
Sosumi	lol	Feb 19 17:31
XFaCE	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptops	Feb 19 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org \| Lenovo Is Breaking HTTPS Security on its Recent Laptops \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jrdpa ]		Feb 19 17:37
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cubexyz	well if you blank out the hard drive and install Linux/BSD/Plan9 etc I assume that gets rid of superfish?	Feb 19 18:24
cubexyz	hopefully it's not in the BIOS or other firmware	Feb 19 18:25
MinceR	indeed	Feb 19 18:25
MinceR	or if you get a thinkpad	Feb 19 18:25
MinceR	at least one site said it's only on the consumer models	Feb 19 18:25
MinceR	http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/	Feb 19 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com \| Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]		Feb 19 18:25
MinceR	this one	Feb 19 18:25
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cubexyz	looks like OS level stuff	Feb 19 18:27
MinceR	unlike the NSA malware :>	Feb 19 18:29
MinceR	(the one in the HDD firmware, that is)	Feb 19 18:30
cubexyz	nasty	Feb 19 18:31
cubexyz	they don't even know if it's NSA or black hats	Feb 19 18:34
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cubexyz	or both I suppose	Feb 19 18:34
MinceR	the NSA _is_ black hats	Feb 19 18:34
cubexyz	yes	Feb 19 18:34
MinceR	they've been undermining the security of software used by the taxpayers whom they parasitize	Feb 19 18:34
cubexyz	one article mentions nls_933w.dll	Feb 19 18:35
cubexyz	so it seems they are reprogramming the hard drive with customized firmware via some dll	Feb 19 18:36
cubexyz	check your boot loader for tampering	Feb 19 18:38
cubexyz	if the code is not removal by flashing there's definitely a problem	Feb 19 18:39
cubexyz	I mean if they _are_ reprogramming firmware, then it's flashable then it's removable too	Feb 19 18:41
cubexyz	storing itself in hidden sectors of the hard drive, that's clever	Feb 19 18:43
cubexyz	survives disk formatting and os reinstalls	Feb 19 18:44
cubexyz	also... this is interesting too... piezo-electric shock sensors know if your hard drive has been dropped	Feb 19 18:49
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cubexyz	MinceR, not that I'm recommending Lenovo, but they do have one netbook without an OS	Feb 19 18:56
cubexyz	I hear they are storing windows 8 product keys in the BIOS now, yet another thing to consider	Feb 19 18:58
XRevan86	cubexyz: SLIC is the name.	Feb 19 18:58
XRevan86	(but actually it's MSDM)	Feb 19 18:59
cubexyz	when did that start?	Feb 19 19:00
cubexyz	I assume it's recent	Feb 19 19:00
XRevan86	cubexyz: Visnu	Feb 19 19:01
XRevan86	(visnu (russian): be hanged/freezed)	Feb 19 19:02
cubexyz	lol, ok I thought you might have meant Vista :)	Feb 19 19:03
cubexyz	thanks for the clarification	Feb 19 19:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19	Feb 19 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	Very Soon http://t.co/kSYbbsv74a	Feb 19 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jreev	Feb 19 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19 Very Soon - Softpedia		Feb 19 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/T0H1fs1Nes	Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jreew	Feb 19 19:08
*TweetTuxMachines @spartan_ix followed @tuxmachines		Feb 19 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First	Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	ARMv8 Board http://t.co/i5eRI0GuQ8	Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jreey	Feb 19 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First ARMv8 Board \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/21DJABO83d	Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jreez	Feb 19 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold	Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Wnit2Ivasc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jref0	Feb 19 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 19:08
XRevan86	Oh my, I just remembered what I have seen this morning (GMT+3)	Feb 19 19:09
XRevan86	http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-mate	Feb 19 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.ubuntu.com \| Ubuntu – Package Search Results -- ubuntu-mate [ http://ur1.ca/jref6 ]		Feb 19 19:09
XRevan86	Apparently Ubuntu MATE is now an official flavour	Feb 19 19:09
cubexyz	XRevan86, I hear you can get the license key (if you really must) via:	Feb 19 19:16
cubexyz	ls /sys/firmware/acpi/tables	Feb 19 19:16
XRevan86	cubexyz: That is correct :).	Feb 19 19:17
cubexyz	my computer is too old for that stuff anyways	Feb 19 19:17
XRevan86	Mine had OEM Linpus	Feb 19 19:17
XRevan86	cubexyz: Still, I know some stuff about it because my friend gave me an OEM key which I gave to my sister :)	Feb 19 19:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: Other important thing is that OEM Windows should never be booted.	Feb 19 19:21
XRevan86	this action locks the key to hardware	Feb 19 19:21
cubexyz	well I try my best not to do that :)	Feb 19 19:22
cubexyz	in the old days I just assembled white box PCs	Feb 19 19:22
cubexyz	amazing the influence microsoft has on hardware manufacturers	Feb 19 19:24
cubexyz	it's insidious	Feb 19 19:24
msb	Upgrade of HTTP protocol coming: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/18/http2-speed-up-web-browsing-desktop-mobile	Feb 19 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| What is HTTP/2 and is it going to speed up the web? \| Technology \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jrexq ]		Feb 19 20:35
XRevan86	msb: Indeed.	Feb 19 20:36
msb	Hope it doesn't interfere with Ad-Blocker!	Feb 19 20:37
XRevan86	msb: I doubt that :).	Feb 19 20:37
msb	I went to look at an article posted here about desktop environments, and it was showing one page at a time with ads. The first ad showed bug larvae moving around. I decided I didn't need to read it.	Feb 19 20:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP Targets Cisco and Facebook With New Line of	Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	Open-Source Networking Gear	Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Scl0GKU1s9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf20	Feb 19 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| HP Targets Cisco and Facebook With New Line of Open-Source Networking Gear \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	Things Needed Fixing http://t.co/atSokVslDY	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf23	Feb 19 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many Things Needed Fixing \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	Designed for Creative People	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/by6SxQfD7E (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf24	Feb 19 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A developer's guide to getting into open source	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QToS4UpKK0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf25	Feb 19 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A developer's guide to getting into open source \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lumina Desktop 0.8.2 Released!	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/eChU08iRz4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf26	Feb 19 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Lumina Desktop 0.8.2 Released! \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/5vV90nMVBx (www.x.org) X Server	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.10	Feb 19 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org \| xorg		Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/B6Skfp5HSf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf27	Feb 19 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| X.Org X Server Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 20:52
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer commented on an article.	Feb 20 01:01
DaemonFC	5 mins ·	Feb 20 01:01
DaemonFC	A load of bull**** closed down an exit ramp off of I-65.	Feb 20 01:01
DaemonFC	On the way to or from the governor's office?	Feb 20 01:01
DaemonFC	http://www.jconline.com/story/news/2015/02/19/frozen-fecal-matter-closes-exit-ramp/23685539/?fb_action_ids=316930078517030&fb_action_types=og.comments	Feb 20 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jconline.com \| Frozen fecal matter closes I-65 exit ramp [ http://ur1.ca/jrgov ]		Feb 20 01:01
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer commented on an article.	Feb 20 01:02
DaemonFC	26 mins ·	Feb 20 01:02
DaemonFC	At least the Republicans are finally regulating some women that they all have first hand experience with. (Except for the ones that prefer to meet young men on Craigslist and try to pay them off with their wristwatch and iPad. grin)	Feb 20 01:02
DaemonFC	http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/02/19/indiana-strippers-face-state-licensing-under-senate-bill/23674199/?fb_action_ids=316885015188203&fb_action_types=og.comments	Feb 20 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indystar.com \| Will bill to regulate Indiana strippers curb sex trafficking? [ http://ur1.ca/jrgp0 ]		Feb 20 01:02
MinceR	poosicle :D	Feb 20 01:02
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MinceR	s/oo/oop/	Feb 20 01:04
DaemonFC	It had to be frozen so it would get to Governor Pence good and fresh.	Feb 20 01:20
DaemonFC	Maybe they were going to make a statue of him out of it.	Feb 20 01:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS	Feb 20 01:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@JESSICA_HUFF http://t.co/by6SxQfD7E (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 01:31
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DaemonFC`	Ryan Farmer Whenever I read anything that a religious fundamentalist has said, my brain feels like someone sprayed Vicks Chloraseptic Spray all over it. for about 10 minutes. It's the strangest sensation.	Feb 20 01:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 19/2/2015: Hewlett-Packard on Cumulus	Feb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, Previews of GNOME 3.16 Beta	Feb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yhwu4lvScU (techrights.org)	Feb 20 01:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 19/2/2015: Hewlett-Packard on Cumulus Linux, Previews of GNOME 3.16 Beta \| Techrights		Feb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines XOrg X Server Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu	Feb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines	14.10 http://t.co/l0NF5Jlmp0	Feb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 01:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Enlist in the Android Army: A beginner’s guide	Feb 20 01:48
TweetTuxMachines	to Android http://t.co/UIwKQFHD4b	Feb 20 01:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com) defector from apple to	Feb 20 01:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| A Beginner's Guide to Android \| Everything to Know \| Digital Trends		Feb 20 01:48
TweetTuxMachines	android linux	Feb 20 01:48
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622078	Feb 20 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: it is a sad fact that honest, independent sites often perish whereas those that sell out for company/plutocrat thrive, hire, spread more		Feb 20 01:50
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 01:50
schestowitz	As wealth is concentrated, power is concentrated. The plutocrats control all the wealth, so they control all the advertising and the advertising funded press. Press concentration brings yet more power to those who already have too much.	Feb 20 01:50
schestowitz	Anti-trust laws and laws against media consolidation in the US have broken down almost completely.	Feb 20 01:50
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 01:50
schestowitz	I didn't know there were such laws at all	Feb 20 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Boxes 3.16 Will Bring a Cool Welcome	Feb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines	Screen and Numerous Improvements	Feb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RjjFvn3PKl (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 01:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cheese 3.16 Beta Brings Warning Fixes and Code	Feb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines	Cleanup http://t.co/TbfOXtW3PR	Feb 20 01:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unity 8 Continues Working Towards Proper	Feb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines	Desktop Support http://t.co/QlvfXI85aB	Feb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 20 01:52
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621970	Feb 20 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ect are still scumbags without tact. They ask #microsoft mouthpiece Rob Enderle for 'analysis' of #google http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/81722.html?rss=1 [1/2]		Feb 20 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxinsider.com \| Yandex Asks Russian Authorities to Drop the Hammer on Google \| Tech Law \| LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/jrh0x ]		Feb 20 01:53
schestowitz	"Oh, that guy. http://archive09.linux.com/articles/38081 https://web.archive.org/web/20040928043900/http://pl.caldera.com/2004forum/agenda/Enderle_keynote_SCO-Forum2004.html"	Feb 20 01:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org \| Rob Enderle Keynote Address [ http://ur1.ca/jrh10 ]		Feb 20 01:53
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 01:55
schestowitz	In his speech, Enderle said of Groklaw: "The site is supported by a marketing executive whose future is tied to the future of Linux and has strong political skills." I asked Pamela Jones (PJ to Groklaw regulars) if this were true. She replied:	Feb 20 01:55
schestowitz	I'm not a marketing exec. He makes these things up, I guess. I also, as you know, do not work for or with IBM. I've stated so publicly, including in a letter to the editor for ZDNet, when they asked me to do so the last time this came up.	Feb 20 01:55
schestowitz	A simple Google search would have cleared up this matter, had he done one, so I see no excuse for him to say reckless, inaccurate things. I don't understand why anyone would say untrue things about someone. It's terribly wrong, in my view, and I feel he should apologize.	Feb 20 01:55
schestowitz	I'm just me. Groklaw is me. Me plus a large community that cares. Groklaw just tipped the 7,000 member mark, and it is still growing. That's all there is to it. I gather he imagines Groklaw is too good to be by little ole me, a nobody. Surely IBM must be behind it. But they aren't. Groklaw is a voice from the community, and if we are so effective that SCO and their gang feel they must attack Groklaw, I'm glad. But they should stick to	Feb 20 01:55
schestowitz	the truth.	Feb 20 01:55
schestowitz	Of course, a girl could get positively tuckered out trying to teach the SCO group manners.	Feb 20 01:55
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 01:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Files (Nautilus) 3.16 Beta 1 Is Out and Ready	Feb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	For Testing	Feb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qMw941ntBW (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 01:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Say hi to cuttlefish! http://t.co/J4eJblsbTw	Feb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	(vizzzion.org)	Feb 20 01:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vizzzion.org \| Say hi to cuttlefish! « vizZzion.org :: sebas' blog		Feb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ETC2 Decoding Support In Mesa's Gallium3D For	Feb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	Freedreno http://t.co/NUwmdLAJUr	Feb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 20 01:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Getting Fedora 21 on the Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 20 03:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu OS Firmware For The Aquaris E4.5 Now	Feb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines	Available To Download And Install	Feb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/y5BVQxZaAo (androidheadlines.com)	Feb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines	linux	Feb 20 03:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution Now	Feb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines	Supports Ubuntu Snappy Core	Feb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 03:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Toshiba Laptops To Have Improved Support In	Feb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.20 http://t.co/kawUmqXp3G	Feb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 20 03:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 review: Android Wear can be	Feb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines	remarkably unremarkable http://t.co/zBPpAFFbg0	Feb 20 03:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "PC preloaded with Wind River’s Linux-based IDP	Feb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines	XT IoT gateway stack running on quad- or	Feb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines	dual-core Atoms."	Feb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kwMpep8ZVR (linuxgizmos.com)	Feb 20 03:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/0uROvL2i8d	Feb 20 03:02
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DaemonFC	Controlled Opposition says:	Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFC	Why should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos.	Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFC	If we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.	Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFC	Controlled Opposition says:	Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFC	Why should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos.	Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFC	If we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.	Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFC	oops	Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 20 03:51
DaemonFC	Did you meet an 18 year old man in a hotel room for a really good time while being an outspoken anti-gay Republican? :)	Feb 20 03:51
DaemonFC	It's not really the part about meeting an 18 year old in a hotel room that bothers me. I mean, 18 year olds know what they're doing. He knew he was going to have some Republican's nasty old balls all over him, and that was his choice. Eww. It's the whole anti-gay Republican part. Be one or the other. You know? :)	Feb 20 03:51
DaemonFC	Then, to top it all off, he got away with the "I spoke with God and he says I've been forgiven." thing, and the people who voted for him because he was sponsoring the anti-gay marriage amendment idea re-elected him.	Feb 20 03:51
DaemonFC	Of course, that was before the state went to court and got the gay marriage ban thrown out as unconstitutional. Now they're not even debating passing the amendment because they'd rather the entire issue go away without costing the state another $400,000 to defend another unconstitutional ban.	Feb 20 03:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/9bIbCR1HmS	Feb 20 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 04:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution Now	Feb 20 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Supports Ubuntu Snappy Core	Feb 20 04:57
TweetTuxMachines	@ColoDeskSpace http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 04:57
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984	Feb 20 09:20
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75	Feb 20 09:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984	Feb 20 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suffert: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://t.co/kz8JNpKt3a via @schestowitz		Feb 20 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com		Feb 20 09:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568665907704131584 https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568666303663357953	Feb 20 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz didn't it start with minix? depends how far you want to go I guess		Feb 20 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz is it ethical to change tv channel? seems like a no brainer to me		Feb 20 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines News coverage from linux events (of which	Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	there's plenty at present)	Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wCNBBu7Zoh (www.linux.com)	Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wNhr6Brkae (fossforce.com)	Feb 20 09:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 10 Great Quotes on PaaS and Containers from Collab Summit 2015 \| Linux.com		Feb 20 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Getting Things Started at SCALE 13x \| FOSS Force		Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Proprietary android apps on a proprietary	Feb 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	platform? No thanks, BlackBerry	Feb 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WVdh6RSTk4 (www.reuters.com)	Feb 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VX0up7dhsW (recode.net)	Feb 20 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com \| BlackBerry updates software, offers access to Android apps \| Reuters		Feb 20 09:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-recode.net \| BlackBerry Update Offers Access to Android Apps \| Re/code		Feb 20 09:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Handset makers test Android's reign	Feb 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ROHQp3Poty (registration.ft.com)	Feb 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines	negativity about the linux based leader	Feb 20 09:31
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628227	Feb 20 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/568499434264403969		Feb 20 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: the more we learn about #NSA/#GCHQ exploits, the more I'm amazed at how little they've been able to do with them in fighting crime		Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Big Banks launder drug cartel money, and profit hugely off the police-state (the only three actors the Prohibition War benefits)	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Almost all public national 'debt' and bailouts are money handed to private financial interests who then use it to consolidate the economy, and buy public infrastructure from the 'bankrupt' governments (How to be a Fascist 101)	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Almost all foreign aid goes to warlords (gives power to the very people who destroy resilient communities)	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	the CIA funds, arms and trains Al Qaeda/ISIS/ISIL/whatever-Hill-&-Knowlton-tells-them-to-call-their-asset-this-week-to-confuse-the-public, and yet we're supposed to give up our rights, drain our treasure, and go to war - 'cause terrorists	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	IMF and World Bank development plans literally retro-velope economies and societies	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	"Free Trade" agreements are multi-thousand page documents negotiated in secret	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Dept of War renamed Dept of 'Defense' right as military might projected offensively across the globe exponentially	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	'Federal' Reserve isn't federal	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Gitmo was supposed to be closed	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	'Mission Accomplished'	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Attacked by Saudi extremists, go to war with only secular country in the region who had nothing to do with anything	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	'Cost Plus'	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	"Those WMD's have got to be around here somewhere? Over here? Nope! Under here? Nope!"	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	"Patriot" Act	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Parallel Construction	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Operation Northwoods	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	False-Flags	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Organizations like ALEC draft all legislation (will the Gentleman from Coke please cede the podium to the Senator from BP), and legislators don't even read the bills they pass (and legalize insider-trading for themselves)	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Whistle-blowers, journalists and other political/economic enemies are imprisoned, character-assassinated, or murdered and tortured, while all nations point at each other and scream "Abuse!"	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	The military bulldozes date/fig/pomogranite farms and protects poppy fields/distribution networks in 'peace-keeping' missions	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	The Establishment (including GE's MSNBC/	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Maybe we can stop accepting unaccountable power Elites' justifications at face value...	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	"Ick....cynicism...I'm going to go back to anticipating my Librem 15 and buying my hobby farm..."	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	"Happy thoughts, positive thoughts, productive thoughts A_A"	Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz	Librem won't do enough to correct things, but it's a start	Feb 20 09:44
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5620844	Feb 20 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/JamesRisen/status/567911078623068161		Feb 20 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JamesRisen: I plan to spend the rest of my life fighting to undo damage done to press freedom in the United States by Barack Obama and Eric Holder.		Feb 20 09:45
schestowitz	"Yeah, sorry everyone. I swear I don't smoke ganja (lucky for us all)"	Feb 20 09:45
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628334	Feb 20 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lenovo’s bundled adware also comes with hole http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptops back door? #lenovo #thinkpad #china		Feb 20 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thenextweb.com \| Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]		Feb 20 09:46
schestowitz	"Only available for Windows?"	Feb 20 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org \| Lenovo Is Breaking HTTPS Security on its Recent Laptops \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jrdpa ]		Feb 20 09:46
schestowitz	Another Windows exclusive	Feb 20 09:46
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Handset makers test Android's reign http://t.co/ROHQp3Poty negativity...'		Feb 20 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com \| Handset makers test Android’s reign - FT.com		Feb 20 09:50
*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'News coverage from linux events (of which there's...'		Feb 20 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines All Ubuntu Phones Are Now Sold Out, Says BQ on	Feb 20 09:53
TweetTuxMachines	Twitter http://t.co/QhaX2tF3Ow	Feb 20 09:53
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| All Ubuntu Phones Are Now Sold Out, Says BQ on Twitter - Softpedia		Feb 20 09:53
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/peterelvidge/status/568709604495863808	Feb 20 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@peterelvidge: @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/kfigt5KAD9… http://t.co/w7oWhlDcp3		Feb 20 10:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> pixelartistpete.wordpress.com \| @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/HjFtv5r5MQ #debian #futurestudio #gnu #linux #art \| Epic Pixel Art By Peter Elvidge		Feb 20 10:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS	Feb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	Designed for Creative People	Feb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jLrOo6zdMU (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 10:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold	Feb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LiW5Wr139f (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9FIx2BopMD (www.theinquirer.net)	Feb 20 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold \| ZDNet		Feb 20 10:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net \| 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 models sold as total sales hit five million- The Inquirer		Feb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On Linux	Feb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/um3b8jykFS (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 20 10:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP to Ship Commodity Switches With Cumulus	Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	Linux OS http://t.co/FmMA3m8tGM	Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.datacenterknowledge.com)	Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cKtc4XS0EC (bits.blogs.nytimes.com)	Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pSCbW09Pvo	Feb 20 10:19
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com)	Feb 20 10:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times		Feb 20 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com \| HP Announces Linux Powered Open Networking Switches		Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First	Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	ARMv8 Board http://t.co/lUgtrC9jYu	Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com) http://t.co/wnfApGOgt1	Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	(mrpogson.com)	Feb 20 10:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First ARMv8 Board \| Linux.com		Feb 20 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Hmmmm… 96Boards Could Be To ARM What ATX Was To x86 \| Robert Pogson		Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In For	Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	Snappy Ubuntu http://t.co/jU60Nbszvv	Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.forbes.com) http://t.co/JonJFiRSvD	Feb 20 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com \| Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In For Snappy Ubuntu - Forbes		Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.canadianreviewer.com)	Feb 20 10:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.canadianreviewer.com \| Sales of Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition smartphone begin in EU - Canadian Reviewer - Reviews, News and Opinion with a Canadian Perspective		Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many	Feb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	Things Needed Fixing http://t.co/UEtM7ZN10A	Feb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many Things Needed Fixing - Softpedia		Feb 20 10:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Qt 5.5 is expected to ship in about two	Feb 20 10:30
TweetTuxMachines	months" http://t.co/TsJKjqcwn4	Feb 20 10:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 20 10:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Qt 5.5 Features: Many Exciting Improvements - Phoronix		Feb 20 10:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chainsaw Warrior Lords of the Night Board Game	Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines	Lands On Steam for Linux	Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/28J1SNoCc5 (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 10:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Chainsaw Warrior: Lords of the Night Board Game Lands on Steam for Linux - Softpedia		Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Wear 5.0.2 Update Starts Rolling Out	Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines	With Some Google Fit Fixes In Tow	Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mG8qf2QAci (www.androidpolice.com)	Feb 20 10:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com \| Android Wear 5.0.2 Update Starts Rolling Out With Some Google Fit Fixes In Tow		Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Thriving http://t.co/AOyo5SIcvL	Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines	(ostatic.com) http://t.co/uNLyPEYuO0	Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.businesswire.com)	Feb 20 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| RightScale's State of the Cloud Survey: Hybrid Clouds, Docker Thriving		Feb 20 10:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com \| Docker Project Partners with Oceanic Society for Open-source-a-thon to Support Whale and Marine Wildlife Conservation \| Business Wire		Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LinHES R8.3 Released http://t.co/1xHzMvJKWU	Feb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linhes.org)	Feb 20 10:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel	Feb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	Releases http://t.co/R1xdfIyPRL (www.eweek.com)	Feb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/N6vjX8Rqmz (ostatic.com)	Feb 20 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel Releases		Feb 20 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| The Linux Foundation Reports on the State of Kernel Development		Feb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS released	Feb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AcrcBlXlGV (lists.ubuntu.com)	Feb 20 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.ubuntu.com \| Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS released		Feb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RAID 5/6 Continues Being Improved For Btrfs	Feb 20 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	With Linux 3.20 http://t.co/uNkovwA9CQ	Feb 20 11:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 20 11:22
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*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Chainsaw Warrior Lords of the Night Board...'		Feb 20 11:22
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too...'		Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released with	Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines	Updated Apps and Bugfixes	Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GnyXE2aCn0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 12:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature Freeze	Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lAOdTUNiQl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 12:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt3D 2.0 The FrameGraph http://t.co/6xSy0Z1WBv	Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 12:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3	Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pqtjRdQMeU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 12:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3 \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is	Feb 20 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8	Feb 20 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0c4EO7Zb6I (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrkql	Feb 20 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8 \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 12:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Final has arrived!"	Feb 20 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fywnPElGsl	Feb 20 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.clearfoundation.com)	Feb 20 12:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xubuntu Lubuntu & Ubuntu GNOME have new	Feb 20 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	releases http://t.co/ES6OqbMCsl	Feb 20 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/SnUti9J9pY	Feb 20 12:49
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TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/lcVcGfALP9	Feb 20 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu GNOME 14.04.2 LTS Lands with New Kernel and Lots of Fixes - Gallery - Softpedia		Feb 20 12:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature Freeze	Feb 20 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/j0apYaLemu (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 12:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3	Feb 20 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WDLOEuTTg8 (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 12:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3 - Softpedia		Feb 20 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is	Feb 20 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8	Feb 20 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/b6JCIYBLsU (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 12:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases	Feb 20 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SNtX3rKZYJ (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 20 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrkvb	Feb 20 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases \| ZDNet		Feb 20 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases	Feb 20 13:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Now Available!	Feb 20 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ig5djR8SMi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 13:15
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Sosumi	https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/	Feb 20 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-firstlook.org \| The Great SIM Heist: How Spies Stole the Keys to the Encryption Castle [ http://ur1.ca/jrepr ]		Feb 20 15:13
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__martin__	news broke regards whole secure access products and solutions trust-breach	Feb 20 16:30
__martin__	see the correlation between mainstream media's ukraine & tanks / isis propaganda push and flow of Ed Joseph Snow docs?	Feb 20 16:31
__martin__	it ain't just a gas reserves and vast land waiting for gmo in UA anymore..	Feb 20 16:31
__martin__	also	Feb 20 16:32
__martin__	dafuq is this	Feb 20 16:32
__martin__	http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/02/19/1830232/microsofts-first-azure-hosted-service-is-powered-by-linux	Feb 20 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org \| Microsoft's First Azure Hosted Service Is Powered By Linux - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jrm21 ]		Feb 20 16:32
__martin__	schestowitz: how many sim cards you got with wife? any older than 2010?	Feb 20 16:34
__martin__	how does one reason out exfiltration and newspeak to his female partner without coming out as a person with mental disorder?	Feb 20 16:35
__martin__	tried myself hard and failed xD	Feb 20 16:36
__martin__	btw btw, the utter worst shiet of the week, CNN headline calls those "eathing healthy and demanding non-gmo veggies" with this "Orthorexia nervosa"	Feb 20 16:37
__martin__	eating*	Feb 20 16:38
__martin__	</end_rant>	Feb 20 16:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 ethical open source hacking tools for	Feb 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	business http://t.co/0oekne51Re	Feb 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 17:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 20/2/2015: Bloomberg Joins Linux	Feb 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	Foundation, ClearOS Community 6.6.0	Feb 20 17:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aQbjl78r5J (techrights.org)	Feb 20 17:37
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cubexyz	which OEM would you say is the most Linux friendly?	Feb 20 18:07
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cubexyz	I guess Acer isn't too bad	Feb 20 18:09
cubexyz	not that I really think Acer laptops are good, they're not	Feb 20 18:10
cubexyz	but they do support Linux	Feb 20 18:10
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'm using an Acer laptop :)	Feb 20 18:10
XRevan86	and so is my mother	Feb 20 18:10
cubexyz	any problems with overheating and shutdowns?	Feb 20 18:10
XRevan86	cubexyz: nope o_0	Feb 20 18:10
cubexyz	which models?	Feb 20 18:10
XRevan86	TE11HC and TE69KB	Feb 20 18:10
cubexyz	I have an acer aspire 5534 which overheats	Feb 20 18:11
XRevan86	Notable that on TE69KB stock Linpus goes to kernel panic instantly after booting.	Feb 20 18:11
cubexyz	have you ever tried panasonic toughbooks? They work very well	Feb 20 18:12
XRevan86	cubexyz: No, never.	Feb 20 18:12
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'm not an expert in laptops, these two are being chosen because they were the best in price category "truly cheap"	Feb 20 18:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/sDx97vXgTg	Feb 20 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 18:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3	Feb 20 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PNE20iAJJd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrmq4	Feb 20 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3 \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines INTERVIEW: TIM O’REILLY http://t.co/w9ytCaWD7h	Feb 20 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 18:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrmq5	Feb 20 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| INTERVIEW: TIM O’REILLY \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 18:15
cubexyz	XRevan86, I thought about finding a laptop with easily upgradeable video card	Feb 20 18:16
cubexyz	e.g. a laptop that supports MXM	Feb 20 18:16
cubexyz	I'm not completely happy with any laptop, but toughbook CF-48 comes close	Feb 20 18:17
XRevan86	And I prefer integrated graphics :)	Feb 20 18:17
cubexyz	I have to consider repairability	Feb 20 18:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: I doubt that's easy to check.	Feb 20 18:19
cubexyz	you're right, it's not	Feb 20 18:19
XRevan86	and impossible to have on thin laptops	Feb 20 18:19
cubexyz	it's one of the things I'm always researching	Feb 20 18:19
cubexyz	I see lots of info on "least repairable laptops"	Feb 20 18:20
XRevan86	cubexyz: Let me guess: it's full of macbooks	Feb 20 18:21
cubexyz	yes	Feb 20 18:21
XRevan86	https://startpage.com/do/search?query=least+repairable+laptops who could imagine…	Feb 20 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-startpage.com \| least repairable laptops - Startpage Web Search [ http://ur1.ca/jrmrl ]		Feb 20 18:22
cubexyz	one time I asked for a laptop with all replaceable parts, and the guy just laughed at me	Feb 20 18:22
cubexyz	buy two :)	Feb 20 18:22
XRevan86	cubexyz: One can dream…	Feb 20 18:22
MinceR	one can replace the laptop with another laptop :>	Feb 20 18:23
XRevan86	Laptops look like a complete freedom on a tablet/smartphone background.	Feb 20 18:24
cubexyz	I fix laptops	Feb 20 18:24
cubexyz	so far I can say Dell Dimension laptops suck :)	Feb 20 18:24
XRevan86	cubexyz: Maybe it's awesome only in fifth dimention.	Feb 20 18:25
cubexyz	haha	Feb 20 18:25
XRevan86	you just can't see that, you, three-dimentional peasant	Feb 20 18:25
cubexyz	I ran out of letters	Feb 20 18:25
MinceR	i can say everything from dHell sucks	Feb 20 18:25
XRevan86	Maybe fifth dimention is hell, that would explain that.	Feb 20 18:26
cubexyz	I'm not sure things are improving on the repair front	Feb 20 18:27
cubexyz	probably it's getting worse	Feb 20 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Creating Forms for Easy LibreOffice Database	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	Entry on Linux http://t.co/fRMCLO2IVI	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 19:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/eCXI5VRZzQ	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 19:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Enterprise Software Giants Live In An Open	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	Source World http://t.co/ZrhFjQp01S	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrn2n	Feb 20 19:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrn2o	Feb 20 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support,	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes 71 Bugs http://t.co/SLKzdgDwiU	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrn2p	Feb 20 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support, Fixes 71 Bugs \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	Driver Code http://t.co/vGR0g0DiCD	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrn2q	Feb 20 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU Driver Code \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 19:07
*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21'		Feb 20 19:07
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*TweetTuxMachines @techdotpro retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21'		Feb 20 19:13
*TweetTuxMachines @markperera favourited 'Enterprise Software Giants Live In An Open Source...'		Feb 20 19:13
MinceR	http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/zzo1.png	Feb 20 19:14
msb	MinceR: Good one!	Feb 20 19:48
__martin__	+1 shared further	Feb 20 20:11
__martin__	on BBS	Feb 20 20:11
schestowitz	+1	Feb 20 20:23
*TweetTuxMachines @danieloleary favourited 'Enterprise Software Giants Live In An Open Source...'		Feb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Demand for Linux developers on the rise	Feb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/O7PcyfzSuM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 20:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app	Feb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	prevalence http://t.co/qKveZLOE2P	Feb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnko	Feb 20 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app prevalence \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GDB 7.9 released http://t.co/YaOg5bMSXG	Feb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnkp	Feb 20 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GDB 7.9 released \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims for	Feb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	mobile developers http://t.co/ljVLbAmAkX	Feb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 20:25
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MinceR	https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235	Feb 20 20:33
MinceR	KDE is dying.	Feb 20 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org \| KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months - SoylentNews [ http://ur1.ca/jrnmq ]		Feb 20 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the	Feb 20 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	space station http://t.co/6SJZxFSpMB	Feb 20 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnnq	Feb 20 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the space station \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 20:38
*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims for...'		Feb 20 20:38
__martin__	MinceR: atm @ fedora 21 / just curious, selinux+systemd, can you link me any in-depth audit, or I shall trust devs from Brno city?	Feb 20 20:41
__martin__	schestowitz: so roy, how many sim cards in total within household? gave mine in dec; introduced girl to textsecure, redphone, tox.im	Feb 20 20:43
__martin__	(pgp/gpg ain't noob-proof yet; nor router flashing)	Feb 20 20:43
__martin__	gave up*	Feb 20 20:44
MinceR	__martin__: huh?	Feb 20 20:45
MinceR	i don't trust fedora anymore	Feb 20 20:45
__martin__	well my old HW needs radeon blobs so	Feb 20 20:45
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5631763	Feb 20 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So much #superfish blame thrown at #lenovo without pointing out #gnu #linux or #freesw as a way out of this kind of abuse		Feb 20 20:53
schestowitz	"I'm sitting this one out. I just get tired of telling people the same shit over and over, and hearing the same old excuses in response."	Feb 20 20:53
schestowitz	__martin__: at least proved you right	Feb 20 20:53
cubexyz	dozerland can't get much worse I think :)	Feb 20 20:55
schestowitz	MinceR: http://m.forums.theregister.co.uk/post/reply/2375127	Feb 20 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.forums.theregister.co.uk \| Reply to post • Re: If systemd is so bad... • The Register Forums [ http://ur1.ca/jrns9 ]		Feb 20 20:57
cubexyz	when everyone always talks about excel when they really mean spreadsheet, or assume it's ipconfig rather than ifconfig (despite the fact that the Unix world invented ifconfig in 1982)	Feb 20 20:57
cubexyz	not to mention the death-grip the OEMs seem to be in	Feb 20 20:58
cubexyz	blame the schools	Feb 20 20:59
cubexyz	that's where it all starts	Feb 20 21:00
cubexyz	everything was mostly copied from DEC	Feb 20 21:02
cubexyz	RT11, copied by Kildall to make CP/M	Feb 20 21:02
schestowitz	> http://yle.fi/uutiset/coding_soon_to_be_part_of_finnish_schoolchildrens_core_curriculum/7818567	Feb 20 21:02
schestowitz	>	Feb 20 21:02
schestowitz	> :\	Feb 20 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi \| Coding soon to be part of Finnish schoolchildren’s core curriculum \| Yle Uutiset \| yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/jrntj ]		Feb 20 21:02
schestowitz	Is Microsoft involved or just the minister connected to microsoft?	Feb 20 21:02
TweetTuxMachines	@linmagazine #Sympleתחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותי	Feb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	לסביבה #אובונטו $89 בלבד http://t.co/Xnv53UcIFw	Feb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	(linmagazine.co.il) דרך @tuxmachines #eWaste	Feb 20 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linmagazine.co.il \| Symple: תחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותי לסביבה עם אובונטו: $89 בלבד \| לינמגזין		Feb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gmThvBgirr	Feb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnuk	Feb 20 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linmagazine: #Sympleתחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותי לסביבה #אובונטו $89 בלבד http://t.co/Xnv53UcIFw דרך @tuxmachines #eWaste http://t.co/gmThvBgirr		Feb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default	Feb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet	Feb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ljLrDrzGGE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnul	Feb 20 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the	Feb 20 21:08
TweetTuxMachines	coolest Android phone ever?	Feb 20 21:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4xZSijPMgQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 21:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnun	Feb 20 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the coolest Android phone ever? \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 21:08
cubexyz	http://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/08/10/0047256/finlands-upper-secondary-school-exams-going-all-linux	Feb 20 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.slashdot.org \| Finland's Upper Secondary School Exams Going All-Linux - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jrnwq ]		Feb 20 21:15
MinceR	http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-20-at-1.43.43-PM-1024x559.jpg	Feb 20 21:19
MinceR	(also a slogan for systemd)	Feb 20 21:19
cubexyz	there are alternatives to systemd :)	Feb 20 21:20
MinceR	and the cult is working on making everything dependent on it	Feb 20 21:20
MinceR	their goal being no choice for you	Feb 20 21:20
cubexyz	well they can try but it won't work	Feb 20 21:21
cubexyz	icewm doesn't use systemd, I checked	Feb 20 21:21
MinceR	yet	Feb 20 21:21
__martin__	schestowitz: thanks, I had a minor conversation with fauno, the philosopher of parabola.nu project; it's in people's neural pathways, pre-learned contexts, proprietary soft is an invisible layer	Feb 20 21:22
__martin__	yes	Feb 20 21:22
__martin__	commodity logic, he said	Feb 20 21:23
__martin__	pathethic, head of mine faculty giving out free vi$ta8 tablets to excellent understand the most indoctrinated students	Feb 20 21:24
__martin__	or faplets for the most of them	Feb 20 21:24
__martin__	at least the college's library heard of openaccess	Feb 20 21:25
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__martin__	infopanels @ campus powered by XP [sic] ... fourteen y'ol OS	Feb 20 21:27
cubexyz	I can solve the OS problem :)	Feb 20 21:27
__martin__	better to say, not old but vulnerable	Feb 20 21:27
__martin__	xD	Feb 20 21:27
cubexyz	http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-828-operating-system-engineering-fall-2012/	Feb 20 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ocw.mit.edu \| Operating System Engineering \| Electrical Engineering and Computer Science \| MIT OpenCourseWare [ http://ur1.ca/jro05 ]		Feb 20 21:28
__martin__	any of you guys already alienated close frieds, family relatives with refusing proprietary stuff?	Feb 20 21:28
cubexyz	of course not	Feb 20 21:29
MinceR	no	Feb 20 21:29
cubexyz	well maybe one friend who is a total microsoft fanboy but we're still friends	Feb 20 21:29
cubexyz	we just don't talk about the whole microsoft thing	Feb 20 21:29
cubexyz	anyways, MIT uses xv6 a lot	Feb 20 21:30
cubexyz	MIT folks are often ahead of the curve anyways	Feb 20 21:32
cubexyz	MIT, Berkeley... they know the score	Feb 20 21:33
__martin__	last summer i was in one flat not further than thirty kilometres from ukraine borders which had a settopbox from deutche telekom's subsidiary company and it was rolling on the magnetic HDD and fans on any occasion of verbal commuication within that living room	Feb 20 21:33
__martin__	pretty scary	Feb 20 21:33
__martin__	complete black box, as wells as their routers for optical line.. never heard of anyone flashing openwrt on that piece of hw	Feb 20 21:34
__martin__	well*	Feb 20 21:34
cubexyz	hexedit the firmware and have a look	Feb 20 21:35
__martin__	later on in early autumn i demonstrated OTR functionallity of pidgin some three kilometres +- from a military airport where u.s. jets are welcome all the time	Feb 20 21:39
__martin__	last friday in a club i asked a policeman out of duty regards their treatment of chronic filesharers like me	Feb 20 21:40
__martin__	at least he was honest, said he just wanna reach his pension and not give a damn	Feb 20 21:40
__martin__	xD	Feb 20 21:40
cubexyz	not too many people understand all their firmware	Feb 20 21:42
MinceR	maybe only the amish do :>	Feb 20 21:42
__martin__	;D	Feb 20 21:42
cubexyz	most routers were VXworks or linux	Feb 20 21:46
__martin__	tbh, with RMS way of life for three months, am lucky no one called ambulance for me and detached me into rehab	Feb 20 21:48
__martin__	parents = ??? // thou i printed 'em out snowden doc and short report in their native lang	Feb 20 21:48
__martin__	regards sim cards	Feb 20 21:49
cubexyz	it's hard work reverse engineering firmware with no source code	Feb 20 21:53
__martin__	so far worst dilemma are CCTVs in a village where father ran for a mayor; he has fb account, uses cracked win7 box and did not took me seriously when i gifted him for his b-day with FSF's e-mail self-defense guide	Feb 20 21:54
__martin__	with all this i just wanted to demostrate how far into one's life can technology go	Feb 20 21:55
__martin__	not sure for how much longer i could handle this hermit stance from others	Feb 20 21:55
__martin__	thou i hope mr. joseph snow will push some more stuff sooner rather than later	Feb 20 21:56
__martin__	</end_rant>	Feb 20 21:56
__martin__	such an oxymoron; in order to get free thoughts am going from time to time into a barbed-wire fenced reservation for deer and stuff, because disrespecting this private property brings me more freedom than walking the streets under cctv managed in the end within father's reach	Feb 20 22:27
__martin__	gosh	Feb 20 22:27
MinceR	which country is that?	Feb 20 22:30
__martin__	the best thing is ofc anyways messing into overcrowded human areas where you forget the orwell's animal farm story with time passing by	Feb 20 22:30
__martin__	MinceR: post-soviet slovakia, near european surveillance hub.. austria (vienn)	Feb 20 22:31
MinceR	ic	Feb 20 22:32
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scientes	i'm so tired of software	Feb 20 23:02
MinceR	welcome to the club	Feb 20 23:03
__martin__	+1	Feb 20 23:03
scientes	echo "linux" \| cpp -E -	Feb 20 23:04
scientes	^^what a load of crap	Feb 20 23:05
scientes	this is 2015 and I still can't name my variable "linux" or "unix"	Feb 20 23:06
MinceR	there's a macro by that name that has a value of 1, apparently	Feb 20 23:09
scientes	its part of cpp	Feb 20 23:09
scientes	its even documented	Feb 20 23:09
MinceR	probably so that c programs will know they're being built on/for linux and unix	Feb 20 23:09
scientes	there is __linux__ for that	Feb 20 23:09
MinceR	indeed	Feb 20 23:10
MinceR	i wonder why there are these undecorated versions	Feb 20 23:10
scientes	the cause me confusing bugs	Feb 20 23:10
MinceR	what's the purpose of a variable called that, though?	Feb 20 23:12
cubexyz	I don't think you can name an executable 'test' either	Feb 20 23:12
MinceR	i'm pretty sure you can, as there already is such an executable :>	Feb 20 23:13
MinceR	doesn't make much sense to name another the same way, though	Feb 20 23:13
cubexyz	I think ld would complain	Feb 20 23:13
cubexyz	oh wait a sec	Feb 20 23:13
cubexyz	I might have a directory test	Feb 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux	Feb 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	3.20/4.0? http://t.co/ciGzg28xwv	Feb 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrol5	Feb 20 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux 3.20/4.0? \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video Overview	Feb 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	and Screenshot Tours http://t.co/HrxxLzrPx3	Feb 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrol6	Feb 20 23:14
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cubexyz	so it wouldn't try to overwrite the directory :)	Feb 20 23:14
cubexyz	I remember one guy overwrote his wp.com file because his filename was wp.com	Feb 20 23:15
cubexyz	every system has these types of things	Feb 20 23:15
cubexyz	in the olden days there was stropping	Feb 20 23:19
cubexyz	btw, if you were to use int linux; in unix v5 cc it would work :)	Feb 20 23:27
cubexyz	MinceR, you might find this interesting:	Feb 20 23:39
cubexyz	http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/	Feb 20 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkcl.net \| Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]		Feb 20 23:39
cubexyz	that's Jessie of course	Feb 20 23:40
cubexyz	wheezy shouldn't be as difficult	Feb 20 23:40
MinceR	i've looked it	Feb 20 23:42
MinceR	his related post on debian-user (?) was more interesting, though :)	Feb 20 23:42
cubexyz	you have a link for that?	Feb 20 23:44
MinceR	https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html	Feb 20 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org \| Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jr2le ]		Feb 20 23:48
MinceR	thread starter: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00641.html	Feb 20 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org \| how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jros7 ]		Feb 20 23:49
cubexyz	ok, Luke Leighton is a bit pessimistic here... but since he used Debian as his main distro I can see his concern	Feb 20 23:53
cubexyz	there is no way are all the linux distros using systemd	Feb 20 23:54
cubexyz	s/are/that/	Feb 20 23:54
MinceR	it might happen	Feb 20 23:54
MinceR	considering what kde is doing, for example	Feb 20 23:54
cubexyz	no way... I'll make my own distro first :)	Feb 20 23:54
MinceR	sure, but what applications will be in it?	Feb 20 23:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why you should consider cloud-hosted Linux	Feb 20 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	desktops http://t.co/Nn8Zdw8LTA	Feb 20 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrot6	Feb 20 23:55
cubexyz	well anything I want... firefox, fbreader, etc	Feb 20 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why you should consider cloud-hosted Linux desktops \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 23:55
MinceR	they might even get the bsd-s	Feb 20 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The open data platform, like United Linux	Feb 20 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	before it, will fail http://t.co/sqzvnd4Hm8	Feb 20 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrot9	Feb 20 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The open data platform, like United Linux before it, will fail \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux clockpocalypse in 2038 is looming and	Feb 20 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	there's no 'serious plan'	Feb 20 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Md8Ex4GjSV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 23:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrotb	Feb 20 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux clockpocalypse in 2038 is looming and there's no 'serious plan' \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 23:55
MinceR	who knows, maybe red hat will kill gnu and linux before 2038	Feb 20 23:56
MinceR	maybe that's the plan	Feb 20 23:56
cubexyz	also there is no way in hell AIX or HP-UX will use systemd	Feb 20 23:56
MinceR	poisoning the well	Feb 20 23:56
cubexyz	there will be forks probably	Feb 20 23:56
MinceR	but who will write/port applications to them?	Feb 20 23:57
cubexyz	as long as you have the toolchain... anyone can do that	Feb 20 23:57
cubexyz	I still write PDP-11 code	Feb 20 23:58
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cubexyz	also the Motif guys :)	Feb 20 23:58
MinceR	sure, but can you keep patching secholes in an entire distro?	Feb 20 23:58
cubexyz	the old farts will not write systemd code	Feb 20 23:58
scientes	its systemd/linux now	Feb 20 23:59
scientes	and android/linux	Feb 20 23:59
cubexyz	MinceR, I do that already remember?	Feb 20 23:59
cubexyz	FC1	Feb 20 23:59
scientes	i write systemd code	Feb 20 23:59
scientes	it mostly sucks, but i do	Feb 20 23:59
cubexyz	ok, well of course some people do	Feb 20 23:59
MinceR	of course it sucks, it's fedora	Feb 20 23:59
cubexyz	especially Red Hat people	Feb 20 23:59
scientes	ummm, systemd is used by every gnu/linux distro now	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	its only android thats differn't	Feb 21 00:00
cubexyz	ummm no	Feb 21 00:00
MinceR	not every	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	yes	Feb 21 00:00
cubexyz	slackware does not	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	every one	Feb 21 00:00
MinceR	slackware and its derivatives don't use it	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	who cares	Feb 21 00:00
MinceR	gentoo supports it but uses openrc by default	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	again who cares	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	its all systemd now	Feb 21 00:00
MinceR	of course this won't help if all the application developers force systemd	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	now that ubuntu switched	Feb 21 00:00
MinceR	who cares about ubuntu	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	and gnome will be next	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	you can't use gnome without systemd	Feb 21 00:01
MinceR	the gnome people did the whole thing	Feb 21 00:01
cubexyz	right	Feb 21 00:01
scientes	for good reason	Feb 21 00:01
cubexyz	that's why there is ten billion other window managers	Feb 21 00:01
scientes	systemd is awesome	Feb 21 00:01
MinceR	i don't miss gnome or kde, but they'll eventually start taking useful stuff away too	Feb 21 00:01
*scientes loves gnome 2		Feb 21 00:01
scientes	*gnome 3	Feb 21 00:01
scientes	i don't like gnome 2	Feb 21 00:02
MinceR	wayland is another fuckup	Feb 21 00:02
scientes	no it isn't	Feb 21 00:02
MinceR	it's windows for gnu/linux	Feb 21 00:02
MinceR	all that's missing is moving the windowing system into the kernel	Feb 21 00:02
MinceR	only it's even more retarded than winblows	Feb 21 00:02
MinceR	winblows at least had pointer capture/warp functionality	Feb 21 00:02
MinceR	wayland omits that from the protocol	Feb 21 00:03
MinceR	and the wayland people are in love with client side decorations	Feb 21 00:03
cubexyz	tons of distros do not use systemd	Feb 21 00:03
cubexyz	there's dozens	Feb 21 00:03
MinceR	it worked out great in windows	Feb 21 00:03
scientes	but there is less than a dozen distros that matter	Feb 21 00:03
scientes	MinceR, wayland fixes the huge security problems of X	Feb 21 00:04
MinceR	yes, and it also fixes the functionality of X	Feb 21 00:04
scientes	except noone uses that fu nctionality anymore	Feb 21 00:04
MinceR	except plenty of people do	Feb 21 00:04
scientes	if you are talking about 1980s drawing primitives	Feb 21 00:04
MinceR	i'm talking about pointer capture/warp and proper window managers	Feb 21 00:05
cubexyz	http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributions	Feb 21 00:05
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MinceR	x2x, x2vnc and synergy relies on the former two	Feb 21 00:05
MinceR	and so do fps games	Feb 21 00:05
scientes	systemd won guys, get over it	Feb 21 00:05
MinceR	we'll see	Feb 21 00:06
scientes	wayland is next	Feb 21 00:06
scientes	linus torvalds already said systemd won	Feb 21 00:06
cubexyz	you're clueless scientes	Feb 21 00:06
MinceR	we'll also see if red hat and crApple also manage to kill *bsd	Feb 21 00:06
cubexyz	you think IBM will use systemd? :)	Feb 21 00:06
scientes	yes	Feb 21 00:06
MinceR	i think there won't be an IBM	Feb 21 00:06
cubexyz	I think not	Feb 21 00:06
scientes	intel is heavily developing systemd	Feb 21 00:06
scientes	IBM will always be around	Feb 21 00:06
scientes	they run so much of the economy	Feb 21 00:07
scientes	like Wal-Mart	Feb 21 00:07
MinceR	they've already sold most of the company	Feb 21 00:07
scientes	and euro-flight control	Feb 21 00:07
cubexyz	it's just userland stuff, anyone can do whatever they want	Feb 21 00:09
MinceR	also, kde does some horrible hack with input to work around wayland's deficiency regarding pointer warp	Feb 21 00:10
cubexyz	there's slack/390 for that matter	Feb 21 00:10
MinceR	but apparently horrible hacks are cool now	Feb 21 00:10
scientes	MinceR, are you aware of how X11 support compositing window managers?	Feb 21 00:11
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scientes	its a GIANT hack	Feb 21 00:11
MinceR	i am aware of it	Feb 21 00:11
MinceR	and i'm not using a compositing window manager	Feb 21 00:12
MinceR	and it's still not as much of a hack as what i mentioned above	Feb 21 00:12
MinceR	but apparently the wayland way of fixing things is breaking them even more, and then not fixing anything	Feb 21 00:12
cubexyz	sorry, but the Unix traditionalists won't switch to systemd	Feb 21 00:15
cubexyz	you'll just see a mass exodus to alternative systems	Feb 21 00:16
scientes	except systemd is more unix than what came before it	Feb 21 00:18
scientes	it supports multiseat for example	Feb 21 00:18
cubexyz	you're just trolling	Feb 21 00:18
scientes	and now we finially have a proper IPC with kdbus	Feb 21 00:18
MinceR	multiseat is a lame excuse to force systemd on us, and it doesn't even work	Feb 21 00:18
scientes	whatever, are you contributing?	Feb 21 00:18
scientes	then shut up	Feb 21 00:18
MinceR	no, you shut up	Feb 21 00:18
cubexyz	fuck off loser :)	Feb 21 00:18
scientes	those that do the work make the decisions	Feb 21 00:18
__martin__	lmao	Feb 21 00:18
scientes	thats just the way it works	Feb 21 00:19
cubexyz	you don't even know me	Feb 21 00:19
scientes	true	Feb 21 00:19
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cubexyz	I just released a new Unix v5 a week ago	Feb 21 00:19
scientes	sry for being an ass	Feb 21 00:19
cubexyz	you're lucky I'm not Sokolov, he would have kicked you	Feb 21 00:21
cubexyz	but whatever, everyone has an opinion	Feb 21 00:21
scientes	i was programming but i got frustrated	Feb 21 00:23
scientes	with the #define linux thing	Feb 21 00:23
cubexyz	oh that	Feb 21 00:23
MinceR	have you tried #undef linux? :>	Feb 21 00:23
cubexyz	guys, I feel I should point out that there's lots of architectures out there	Feb 21 00:24
cubexyz	we are not all x86	Feb 21 00:24
scientes	I was developing systemd on ARM for a while	Feb 21 00:24
MinceR	indeed, i'm typing this on armv6 :>	Feb 21 00:24
scientes	armv7	Feb 21 00:24
scientes	and i fixed the gold linker on armv5	Feb 21 00:24
cubexyz	if you like systemd fine, but don't shove it out everyone's throat	Feb 21 00:25
cubexyz	some of us use Vax and PDP-11	Feb 21 00:25
MinceR	what i don't get is why don't the systemd/wayland crowd just shut up and use windows already	Feb 21 00:25
MinceR	it's "designed" around the principles they apparently love so much	Feb 21 00:25
scientes	MinceR, what is wrong with kdbus?	Feb 21 00:25
MinceR	it doesn't belong in the kernel	Feb 21 00:25
MinceR	it worked as fine as it ever will in userspace	Feb 21 00:26
scientes	every other os has an in-kernel IPC	Feb 21 00:26
MinceR	so does gnu/linux	Feb 21 00:26
scientes	not true	Feb 21 00:26
MinceR	several	Feb 21 00:26
scientes	now it is zero-copy	Feb 21 00:26
MinceR	unix domain sockets, mutexes, semaphores	Feb 21 00:26
MinceR	shared memory	Feb 21 00:26
scientes	but shared memory is insecure	Feb 21 00:26
scientes	the new memfd stuff makes shared memory secure	Feb 21 00:26
MinceR	good thing the crap poettering codes up is secure	Feb 21 00:27
MinceR	oh wait	Feb 21 00:27
MinceR	systemd is full of holes	Feb 21 00:27
scientes	I was amazed that we havn't had an unaligned memory access bug yet	Feb 21 00:27
MinceR	with these people at the wheel, we will	Feb 21 00:27
MinceR	just like now we have null pointer dereferences in pid1	Feb 21 00:28
scientes	thats true	Feb 21 00:28
scientes	pid 1 does a hell of alot	Feb 21 00:28
scientes	its over a megabyte	Feb 21 00:28
MinceR	and while they're trying to force dbus into the kernel, they'll take VT support out of the kernel	Feb 21 00:28
scientes	yep	Feb 21 00:28
scientes	but that wont be in pid 1	Feb 21 00:29
MinceR	which will probably make it more difficult to recover from issues	Feb 21 00:29
scientes	but the reasons for it are sound	Feb 21 00:29
MinceR	apparently the main principle is "let's make it shittier"	Feb 21 00:29
scientes	a pid 1 crash doesn't crash the system though	Feb 21 00:29
MinceR	i doubt they'll do it in a way that will be worth it	Feb 21 00:29
scientes	so you will see be able to debug after pid 1 crashes	Feb 21 00:29
MinceR	i'd rather not have pid1 crash, and fix/restart the service that did	Feb 21 00:30
MinceR	kdbus is already said to depend on systemd	Feb 21 00:30
scientes	i've never had it crash when i wasn't hacking it	Feb 21 00:30
MinceR	so poettering finally gets what he wants: linux depending on systemd	Feb 21 00:30
scientes	kdbus does depend on systemd	Feb 21 00:30
MinceR	so much for not breaking userspace	Feb 21 00:31
scientes	AFAIK	Feb 21 00:31
cubexyz	you're forgetting that anyone can go back and just use an older version	Feb 21 00:31
MinceR	yes, and deal with a growing list of known vulnerabilities	Feb 21 00:31
MinceR	while these retards work on introducing more of them in the newest versions	Feb 21 00:31
cubexyz	some Nuclear Power stations use PDP-11's	Feb 21 00:31
cubexyz	because they know it inside and out	Feb 21 00:32
MinceR	and probably because they don't want a meltdown because poettering had a bad day	Feb 21 00:32
cubexyz	there is no X	Feb 21 00:32
cubexyz	it'	Feb 21 00:32
MinceR	why, is there X for PDP-11? :>	Feb 21 00:32
cubexyz	for Vax yes	Feb 21 00:33
cubexyz	not PDP-11	Feb 21 00:33
cubexyz	at least I've never seen it	Feb 21 00:33
__martin__	gnome os aka linuxd/minwin concerns are legitimate, thou useds live in sandboxed chrome fog these days soon to be cyanogen/minwin	Feb 21 00:34
cubexyz	X version 6 was microvax... there was never a PDP-11 X	Feb 21 00:34
cubexyz	IBM RT also	Feb 21 00:34
cubexyz	that was all started by MIT, DEC and IBM	Feb 21 00:35
cubexyz	if you know your history	Feb 21 00:35
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cubexyz	now some really smart folks ran Plan 9 but it's a research OS	Feb 21 00:36
MinceR	maybe i will too	Feb 21 00:37
MinceR	if they manage to kill unix	Feb 21 00:37
cubexyz	it was better in a lot of ways, but it doesn't support new hardware too well	Feb 21 00:37
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cubexyz	if you want traditional then run quasijarus OR run one of the BSDs like FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD	Feb 21 00:38
MinceR	afaict freebsd is running a high risk of turning into freeosx	Feb 21 00:38
MinceR	with launchd and other crApple crap	Feb 21 00:39
scientes	there was a suggestion that freebsd adopt systemd	Feb 21 00:39
cubexyz	there is no way Theo will use systemd :)	Feb 21 00:39
scientes	by one of the core developers	Feb 21 00:39
MinceR	and if all the applications start depending on systemd, even netbsd and openbsd will likely start using systemd shims or forks	Feb 21 00:39
cubexyz	ok, well that's why there are forks, so everyone gets what they want	Feb 21 00:39
cubexyz	I happen to like quasijarus but I run Linux too	Feb 21 00:40
MinceR	no, it might well be that only the people who want gratis windows will get what they want	Feb 21 00:40
MinceR	and we get to start struggling with driver support all over again, from zero	Feb 21 00:40
cubexyz	well MinceR what do you suggest?	Feb 21 00:40
MinceR	i have no idea	Feb 21 00:41
cubexyz	I can run quasijarus and fix bugs so I'm happy	Feb 21 00:41
MinceR	i never knew what to do with stupid humans (which are the vast majority)	Feb 21 00:41
cubexyz	I don't have to use every new fangled thing that people come up with	Feb 21 00:41
cubexyz	of course there are disagreements	Feb 21 00:42
MinceR	does quasijarus run on anything other than vax?	Feb 21 00:42
cubexyz	I don't go around telling people what to use, use whatever you want	Feb 21 00:42
cubexyz	it was ported to HP9000 I think	Feb 21 00:43
MinceR	i don't have any of those	Feb 21 00:43
cubexyz	Unisys 7000	Feb 21 00:43
MinceR	just pc-s, arm machines and a zx spectrum	Feb 21 00:44
cubexyz	probably other ones I don't remember what happened after 4.3BSD	Feb 21 00:44
cubexyz	microvax is cheap to get	Feb 21 00:44
cubexyz	the average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too big	Feb 21 00:45
cubexyz	the only way you will learn that stuff is if you go back into the past and learn the older versions	Feb 21 00:45
scientes	<cubexyz> the average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too big	Feb 21 00:46
scientes	exactly	Feb 21 00:46
cubexyz	there is FPGA if you want PDP-11 for modern hardware	Feb 21 00:46
cubexyz	some very interesting projects	Feb 21 00:46
scientes	thats why it is being replaced by opengl+wayland	Feb 21 00:46
scientes	and since opengl fucked up on opengl3 perhaps DX11 too	Feb 21 00:46
scientes	I just remember that i read the announcement of systemd and went "holy shit that makes sense!"	Feb 21 00:48
scientes	after having experienced the stupidity that is upstart	Feb 21 00:48
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MinceR	replacing x might be a good idea, just not with a retarded replacement	Feb 21 00:58
MinceR	as for DX11, that will never work	Feb 21 00:58
MinceR	not only is it only supported on winblows, it's also controlled by m$	Feb 21 00:59
cubexyz	just make a Xtiny or Xlight then	Feb 21 00:59
cubexyz	it's been done before	Feb 21 00:59
MinceR	trying to implement a spec m$ controls is _not_ a good idea	Feb 21 00:59
cubexyz	Xvesa I think was small	Feb 21 00:59
MinceR	and yes, upstart was stupid too	Feb 21 00:59
MinceR	with its signal abuse	Feb 21 00:59
MinceR	but there are plenty of sane init systems around	Feb 21 00:59
scientes	MinceR, they only did it cause the company that controls opengl bailed on their promise of a modern api	Feb 21 00:59
scientes	Kronos	Feb 21 00:59
scientes	like systemd	Feb 21 01:00
MinceR	systemd is supposed to be a "modern api"?	Feb 21 01:00
scientes	i was talking about DX11	Feb 21 01:00
MinceR	no, systemd is not sane	Feb 21 01:00
MinceR	its scope is sprawling, it's overly complex and it puts a lot of shoddy code in pid1	Feb 21 01:00
scientes	what is so horrible about it?	Feb 21 01:00
MinceR	and it's designed to be impossible to replace	Feb 21 01:01
MinceR	oh, and to be non-portable	Feb 21 01:01
scientes	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL#Longs_Peak_and_OpenGL_3.0_controversy	Feb 21 01:01
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MinceR	if sysvinit was designed like systemd, it would be impossible to replace sysvinit with systemd	Feb 21 01:01
scientes	but software portability isn't the big thing, hardware portability is	Feb 21 01:02
MinceR	the average programmer can't know all of systemd	Feb 21 01:02
scientes	and systemd should work on any 32-bit processor with a MMU	Feb 21 01:02
MinceR	maybe it isn't to you	Feb 21 01:02
MinceR	but of course, systemd fans don't recognize any use cases outside their own	Feb 21 01:02
cubexyz	some folks still use RT-11 for that matter	Feb 21 01:03
MinceR	they're stuck in their little bubble of windows and macos running on pc	Feb 21 01:03
cubexyz	they don't even need a multi-user OS	Feb 21 01:03
cubexyz	RTOS for stuff that has to be responsive	Feb 21 01:05
scientes	here is something crazy: I was contemplating a multi-threaded pid 1	Feb 21 01:05
MinceR	here's something less crazy: run the minimum amount of code needed in pid1	Feb 21 01:12
cubexyz	that would be Unix v7 or before	Feb 21 01:12
cubexyz	completely easy to understand too	Feb 21 01:12
MinceR	even this could suffice:	Feb 21 01:13
MinceR	int main(void) { if (fork()) while (1) wait(NULL); else execl("/etc/rc", "rc", NULL); }	Feb 21 01:13
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cubexyz	I said it before... write MincerOS :)	Feb 21 01:13
MinceR	maybe that will be my new hobby	Feb 21 01:13
MinceR	(that oneliner wasn't written by me, btw)	Feb 21 01:14
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/original-unix-v5-init.c.txt	Feb 21 01:14
cubexyz	you still need a way to go back and forth from single to multi-user mode	Feb 21 01:15
cubexyz	and update wtmp of course	Feb 21 01:16
MinceR	the service manager can handle the runlevel-like stuff	Feb 21 01:16
MinceR	which would be started by /etc/rc	Feb 21 01:17
cubexyz	well, maybe you would do things differently from Thompson	Feb 21 01:17
MinceR	i'm not sure how wtmp works	Feb 21 01:17
cubexyz	it's just a binary file used by ac	Feb 21 01:17
cubexyz	maybe new Linux doesn't have that nowdays	Feb 21 01:18
cubexyz	keeps track of user's connection time	Feb 21 01:18
MinceR	looks like wtmp doesn't need to be handled in pid1 either	Feb 21 01:18
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cubexyz	it also reads /etc/getty to know how many init processes to spawn	Feb 21 01:20
MinceR	which could be done by the service manager	Feb 21 01:21
MinceR	something like runit, perhaps	Feb 21 01:21
MinceR	gn	Feb 21 01:21
*scientes thinks using a DAG for system services makes things less painful		Feb 21 01:21
scientes	and that anything else is insane	Feb 21 01:22
cubexyz	or rather reads /etc/ttys	Feb 21 01:22
MinceR	even a DAG doesn't have to be implemented in pid1	Feb 21 01:22
MinceR	and also doesn't need a DNS proxy built in	Feb 21 01:22
MinceR	or a uefi bootloader	Feb 21 01:22
scientes	gummiboot is not part of systemd	Feb 21 01:22
MinceR	it is now!	Feb 21 01:22
scientes	its just developed by Kay Sievers	Feb 21 01:23
scientes	and the patch i am working on right now does bring in it's BootLoaderSpec	Feb 21 01:23
scientes	for kexec	Feb 21 01:23
MinceR	here's a little article to read for alleged software developers who believe systemd is well designed >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_%28computer_science%29	Feb 21 01:23
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cubexyz	it's not hard to improve upon the status quo	Feb 21 01:24
MinceR	of course, any proper software engineering course includes discussion of cohesion	Feb 21 01:24
MinceR	but apparently nobody at red hat finished such a course	Feb 21 01:24
cubexyz	reduced module complexity, that describes early Unix	Feb 21 01:25
cubexyz	that's why the MIT OS design course uses a modernized Unix v6	Feb 21 01:26
MinceR	not shoving unrelated stuff into modules, i think that describes unix too	Feb 21 01:26
MinceR	rather, not shoving unrelated stuff into the same module, i think that describes unix too	Feb 21 01:26
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cubexyz	actually Kernighan and Pike criticized 4.2BSD and System V	Feb 21 01:28
cubexyz	in their opinion, 4.2BSD was already a departure from true Unix	Feb 21 01:29
MinceR	not as much as Lendows is	Feb 21 01:29
scientes	lol	Feb 21 01:29
scientes	the true unix: "return 0"	Feb 21 01:29
scientes	oh "return 0;"	Feb 21 01:30
MinceR	that would be /bin/true	Feb 21 01:30
scientes	no then you violate SCO's copyright claims on unix	Feb 21 01:30
cubexyz	I talked to Mcllroy about it... but what are you going to do?	Feb 21 01:30
MinceR	i thought SCO's alleged claims have been dismissed ages ago	Feb 21 01:30
scientes	you have to make it a c program	Feb 21 01:30
MinceR	even m$ seemed to give up on handing another bucket of money to SCO to warm up the FUD	Feb 21 01:31
scientes	systemd doesn't really use coreutils	Feb 21 01:31
MinceR	of course	Feb 21 01:31
cubexyz	Linux is (quoting) "in a disheartening state of obesity"	Feb 21 01:31
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MinceR	systemd doesn't really use anything, except the kernel, but they're working on getting rid of the kernel too	Feb 21 01:31
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TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/drdJTmuoGv (www.techrepublic.com)	Feb 21 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	some legitimate points there	Feb 21 01:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why you should consider cloud-hosted Linux	Feb 21 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	desktops http://t.co/UnLaErODD0	Feb 21 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	(searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com)	Feb 21 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrpdt	Feb 21 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com \| Why you should consider cloud-hosted Linux desktops		Feb 21 01:31
scientes	"cloud"	Feb 21 01:31
scientes	what the fuck does "cloud" mean anyways?	Feb 21 01:32
scientes	what a load of marketing gibberish	Feb 21 01:32
MinceR	it means "just hand your data and code over to us and everything will be fine, trust us"	Feb 21 01:32
MinceR	mac asay should have waited with the United Linux thing, it may yet happen in the form of Lendows	Feb 21 01:33
MinceR	it won't be worth using of course, but it will be	Feb 21 01:33
MinceR	it will exist, for a while	Feb 21 01:33
cubexyz	there's no united anything though	Feb 21 01:33
scientes	systemd is unifying linux	Feb 21 01:33
MinceR	united in the quest for the useless shiny	Feb 21 01:33
MinceR	united in idiocracy	Feb 21 01:34
scientes	it brings the linux development model to userspace	Feb 21 01:34
scientes	now we just need subsystemd maintainers	Feb 21 01:34
MinceR	well, at least we'll know if the kernel is this crap too	Feb 21 01:34
MinceR	also, a while ago torvalds said that linux didn't break userspace	Feb 21 01:35
MinceR	systemd never followed that	Feb 21 01:35
MinceR	though they did say they won't break udev for non-systemd cases	Feb 21 01:36
MinceR	(a lie, of course)	Feb 21 01:36
scientes	http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InterfaceStabilityPromise/	Feb 21 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org \| InterfaceStabilityPromise [ http://ur1.ca/jrpeo ]		Feb 21 01:36
MinceR	not the same thing	Feb 21 01:36
scientes	lol libwrap is gone	Feb 21 01:37
scientes	and that mentions libwra	Feb 21 01:37
MinceR	promises made by the cancerd cult aren't worth the bits they're written on	Feb 21 01:37
scientes	pid 1 is 1.4 MiB	Feb 21 01:38
scientes	its huge	Feb 21 01:38
MinceR	1.4 MiB of null pointer dereferences and remote holes?	Feb 21 01:39
scientes	sz == 8 \|\| (value < (1ULL << (sz*8)))	Feb 21 01:40
scientes	why does it have that string in the binary?	Feb 21 01:40
MinceR	i have no idea, maybe it's an assert or something	Feb 21 01:41
scientes	yeah but that would be compiled	Feb 21 01:41
scientes	perhaps thats the way assert gets compiled	Feb 21 01:41
MinceR	sure, but it prints an error message with the expression	Feb 21 01:41
MinceR	iirc	Feb 21 01:41
scientes	ahh yes	Feb 21 01:41
scientes	lol http://paste.debian.net/153527/	Feb 21 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.debian.net \| debian Pastezone		Feb 21 01:42
DaemonFC	http://wn.ktvu.com/story/28132951/vandalism-could-delay-reopening-portion-of-dolores-park	Feb 21 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wn.ktvu.com \| Vandalism could delay reopening portion of Dolores Park - KTVU - [ http://ur1.ca/jrph8 ]		Feb 21 01:49
DaemonFC	"I'm infuriated, I'm angry," San Francisco Recreation & Park Department General Manager Phil Ginsburg told KTVU Tuesday. "Over the weekend, some idiots broke into the construction site and did about $100,000 worth of damage."	Feb 21 01:49
DaemonFC	Ginsburg said intruders stole a construction cart, hotwired it and did donuts on a newly sodded field, damaging a new irrigation system.	Feb 21 01:49
DaemonFC	Vandals also tagged the cement roof of the park's new storage facility and even lit a campfire in a corner of that facility to roast s'mores, leaving behind marshmallows, chocolate and graham crackers.	Feb 21 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Studio v1.1 hits the stable channel	Feb 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G9oOSZLoAo	Feb 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidauthority.com)	Feb 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrpha	Feb 21 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com \| Android Studio v1.1 hits the stable channel - Android Authority		Feb 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 20/2/2015: Android Studio v1.1, GDB 7.9	Feb 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6X3AWniV78 (techrights.org)	Feb 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrphb	Feb 21 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 20/2/2015: Android Studio v1.1, GDB 7.9 \| Techrights		Feb 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Good explanation of how microsoft attacks linux	Feb 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	right now http://t.co/msioGT0uu2	Feb 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.forbes.com)	Feb 21 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com \| Microsoft's Trojan Horse To Undermine Android - Forbes		Feb 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrphc	Feb 21 01:50
*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'Mac Asay against convergence http://t.co/drdJTmuoGv some legitimate points...'		Feb 21 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| The Open Data Platform, like United Linux before it, will fail - TechRepublic		Feb 21 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Demand for Linux developers on the rise	Feb 21 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9Rq0iCQuGq (betanews.com)	Feb 21 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrpi9	Feb 21 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com \| Demand for Linux developers on the rise		Feb 21 01:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/twFOT0qOKo	Feb 21 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrpkw	Feb 21 02:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/S7oflxv0Vr	Feb 21 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 02:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/XEFQjwOOHR	Feb 21 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 02:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A look at gnu linux distro LinHES 8.3	Feb 21 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GshnPsvqmE (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 02:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrpl0	Feb 21 02:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.1 Update: What to Expect	Feb 21 02:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7D0jkK91vJ (www.gottabemobile.com)	Feb 21 02:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines YouTube is launching an Android app for	Feb 21 02:19
TweetTuxMachines	children http://t.co/8uexfAzQT3	Feb 21 02:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theverge.com)	Feb 21 02:19
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msb	I'm not totally up on this stuff, but it seems to me the main problem with eliminating systemd is the apps that use it. An init system, udev, etc., can be done as it is today. So how do apps use systemd? And can they be satisfied with a fairly simple systemd-shim (which will not run in PID1 of course). Is there an explanation somewhere of exactly what the current systemd-shim does?	Feb 21 06:31
cubexyz	one doesn't need to eliminate any apps	Feb 21 06:32
cubexyz	I'll just use wheezy, or slackware, or one of the BSDs	Feb 21 06:33
cubexyz	or something derived from wheezy, or something derived from slackware	Feb 21 06:33
msb	I don't want to eliminate any apps. I want the up-to-date apps, that use systemd, to be able to run without it.	Feb 21 06:33
cubexyz	the display manager maybe	Feb 21 06:39
msb	Wiki says that slackware has no "public code repository". What does that mean? And it all depends on one guy.	Feb 21 06:39
msb	I want to stay with Linux because it is a great human endevor and should not be allowed to be sabotaged by RH/US/NWO.	Feb 21 06:40
cubexyz	it's like I tried to explain earlier	Feb 21 06:40
msb	Sorry, maybe I missed it or didn't understand.	Feb 21 06:41
cubexyz	from my point of view I'm just going to use an earlier pre-systemd distro or I'll use slackware or OpenBSD	Feb 21 06:41
cubexyz	that's what I'm doing now... and in addition to that I research historical Unix	Feb 21 06:42
msb	Right, but I'm asking help with my point of view.	Feb 21 06:42
msb	What is the display manager, please?	Feb 21 06:42
cubexyz	kdm or gdm	Feb 21 06:42
msb	That's now in systemd too?	Feb 21 06:43
cubexyz	ummm, it might be now, I'm not sure about that	Feb 21 06:43
cubexyz	there's xdm if you want something different	Feb 21 06:43
msb	But apps run after k/gdm chooses a DE and starts X. How do apps depend on dm?	Feb 21 06:44
cubexyz	strictly speaking the applications don't need a dm	Feb 21 06:44
cubexyz	the display manager just does stuff like move the focus, and move windows around	Feb 21 06:45
cubexyz	sometimes I don't even run a dm at all	Feb 21 06:45
cubexyz	I'm running kdm on vector	Feb 21 06:46
cubexyz	but that's kdm from kde 3.5.10	Feb 21 06:46
cubexyz	so no systemd	Feb 21 06:46
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msb	I thought it was the window manager that moves windows around, etc.	Feb 21 06:47
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msb	I want to find a non-systemd that will work for most people -- for humanity.	Feb 21 06:50
cubexyz	ok, this is dependent on a few things... and it depends on which way things are set up	Feb 21 06:50
cubexyz	ok, really with KDE 3.5.10 there are two things: kdm and kwin	Feb 21 06:50
msb	So it should be Linux, and should be up to date, and well maintained.	Feb 21 06:50
cubexyz	but sometimes there's only one thing: icewm	Feb 21 06:50
cubexyz	so on openbsd I login via text login	Feb 21 06:51
cubexyz	there's no gui login	Feb 21 06:51
msb	So icewm comes up and asks you to select a DE (or console mode)?	Feb 21 06:51
cubexyz	no	Feb 21 06:52
cubexyz	I'm starting completely in text mode	Feb 21 06:52
cubexyz	I start icewm via a script	Feb 21 06:52
cubexyz	that starts X and icewm	Feb 21 06:52
cubexyz	so there's no gui login :)	Feb 21 06:52
cubexyz	I'm already logged in via text login	Feb 21 06:53
msb	OK, but if one wants to select among multiple DEs, one needs K/G/XDM, right? Or a script to do it. I forgot about the login, but the DMs do that too. In any case, I don't think apps would access the	Feb 21 06:54
cubexyz	ok, now on other distros it could be set up differently	Feb 21 06:54
msb	DM.	Feb 21 06:54
cubexyz	well I could just write multiple scripts for each wm	Feb 21 06:55
cubexyz	if you give me a second I can check what AntiX does	Feb 21 06:55
cubexyz	it's in another room	Feb 21 06:55
msb	OK. Back to the apps. I read that goddamn systemd will necessitate changing apps to keep up with it (churning apps). So how and why do apps access/need systemd?	Feb 21 06:56
msb	Obviously you don't need a heater in winter. 8^)	Feb 21 06:57
msb	I wish that scientes POS was here to explain.	Feb 21 06:58
cubexyz	I think antix uses slim for the gui login	Feb 21 07:03
cubexyz	the application shouldn't care if you run sysvinit or whatever	Feb 21 07:04
cubexyz	the init controls the apps	Feb 21 07:04
msb	So how does systemd "churn" apps?	Feb 21 07:04
cubexyz	it's like dependencies like library versions, same as always	Feb 21 07:06
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cubexyz	if systemd gets new libraries, they have to work with the existing applications	Feb 21 07:07
msb	If devuan has an init system, udev, etc, that doesn't use systemd, can it then use the normal debian repos?	Feb 21 07:07
msb	for apps?	Feb 21 07:08
cubexyz	that's speculative	Feb 21 07:08
cubexyz	we don't even have devuan yet	Feb 21 07:08
cubexyz	who knows :)	Feb 21 07:08
msb	This is a major tragedy, from the social viewpoint.	Feb 21 07:09
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msb	I _am_ a conspiracy theorist, and I know one when I see one.	Feb 21 07:10
cubexyz	ok, obviously I don't agree with you-know-who	Feb 21 07:10
msb	who?	Feb 21 07:11
cubexyz	the pro-systemd folks	Feb 21 07:11
msb	I'm just hoping it's a tragedy with a technical fix.	Feb 21 07:12
cubexyz	really this has happened before with 4.3BSD and System V	Feb 21 07:12
cubexyz	it's a similar schism	Feb 21 07:13
msb	I doubt that was done by the ruling psychopaths to control the world's population, like this is.	Feb 21 07:13
cubexyz	BSD init vs SysV init	Feb 21 07:13
cubexyz	it's not just me saying thumbs down to systemd	Feb 21 07:14
msb	I know. I have lots of articles and websites about that.	Feb 21 07:14
cubexyz	print this out:	Feb 21 07:15
cubexyz	http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installation	Feb 21 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org \| Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jmy5s ]		Feb 21 07:15
msb	The problem is that the major distros have swallowed it, from stupidity, bribes, or threats.	Feb 21 07:15
cubexyz	there's lots of classic distros which I mentioned earlier, that will never use systemd	Feb 21 07:16
msb	I saw that, but it has very few major distros.	Feb 21 07:16
cubexyz	quasijarus, Research Unix, Plan 9, the BSDs, etc	Feb 21 07:16
msb	But classic distros are out of date regarding security holes, new media formats, etc.	Feb 21 07:17
cubexyz	but I can say the same thing about the new distros :)	Feb 21 07:17
msb	How so?	Feb 21 07:17
cubexyz	they don't support my hardware, and they have _new_ bugs	Feb 21 07:17
msb	Very few people have your old hardware.	Feb 21 07:17
msb	And new bugs will get fixed.	Feb 21 07:18
cubexyz	anyways, I'm not really that worried. That guy was just trying to bother people	Feb 21 07:19
cubexyz	I don't even think he seriously believes the stuff he was saying	Feb 21 07:19
msb	I don't care about him.	Feb 21 07:20
cubexyz	folks can run the old stuff forever if they want	Feb 21 07:21
msb	The human race needs Linux, and systemd will destroy it.	Feb 21 07:21
cubexyz	using FPGAs or emulators, or by fixing old hardware	Feb 21 07:21
cubexyz	I spent over 10 years updating FC1	Feb 21 07:21
msb	The old stuff doesn't handle new media formats, Android, and other stuff to be invented.	Feb 21 07:21
msb	The public doesn't use FPGAs and emulators are slow.	Feb 21 07:22
msb	I am looking for a solution for everybody, not just you.	Feb 21 07:22
cubexyz	most people don't even understand the OS that's on their computer	Feb 21 07:23
cubexyz	FPGAs are good... you could make your own CPU :)	Feb 21 07:24
msb	Most people don[t even know they are using an OS.	Feb 21 07:24
msb	I'm fine with an AMD 8-core -- much faster.	Feb 21 07:25
cubexyz	personally I think Linux is too bloated and complicated	Feb 21 07:26
cubexyz	AntiX did a decent job pruning it down	Feb 21 07:26
cubexyz	OpenBSD is relatively lean	Feb 21 07:26
msb	Doesn;t matter. Any PC today has GBs of RAM.	Feb 21 07:27
cubexyz	I don't use bluetooth, or sunrpc or nfs etc	Feb 21 07:27
cubexyz	it sure does matter if you want to try to understand it	Feb 21 07:29
cubexyz	look at MIT's courseware for OS design	Feb 21 07:29
cubexyz	but everybody's different	Feb 21 07:29
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cubexyz	that guy just parrots the same crap over and over	Feb 21 07:31
cubexyz	"who cares"	Feb 21 07:31
cubexyz	I care	Feb 21 07:31
cubexyz	emulated PDP-11 is quite fast	Feb 21 07:35
cubexyz	way faster than the fastest PDP-11 ever made	Feb 21 07:35
cubexyz	init is just a way to get things started, run some gettys, turn things off and on	Feb 21 07:37
msb	How fast compared to an AMD FX-8350?	Feb 21 07:37
cubexyz	it's just a hosted OS... so it's speed depends on how fast the host is	Feb 21 07:45
cubexyz	in my case a P3 is fast enough to run any PDP-11 OS quite well	Feb 21 07:46
cubexyz	if I put it on a FX-8350 it would be a lot faster I'm sure	Feb 21 07:46
msb	I'm talking about speed for playing x265s, transcoding, and video editing.	Feb 21 07:47
msb	not running the OS.	Feb 21 07:47
msb	Again, I am looking for a solution for everyone, not just techies.	Feb 21 07:48
cubexyz	I don't think everyone does those things either	Feb 21 07:48
msb	Everyone now views x265s.	Feb 21 07:49
msb	And lots of people edit videos.	Feb 21 07:49
msb	You seem to be recommending that people get an FPGA and run PDP11 on it, just so they can run an old Unix that will not handle modern media formats, etc. Does not make sense to me.	Feb 21 07:51
cubexyz	I only mentioned FPGAs to point out that when old hardware dies, people can still run on the old Unix on the FPGA	Feb 21 07:52
cubexyz	if they want to do that	Feb 21 07:52
cubexyz	it's perfectly valid for businesses that need to replace legacy hardware	Feb 21 07:53
cubexyz	joe blow isn't going to listen to me anyways	Feb 21 07:55
cubexyz	I'm sure if I wanted to I buy some appropriate computer hardware to edit videos	Feb 21 07:55
cubexyz	I wouldn't use a PDP-11 for that obviously	Feb 21 07:55
msb	I'm talking about average people. They want a fast general purpose desktop or laptop for doing everything.	Feb 21 07:57
msb	Up to date, easy to use, not microshit.	Feb 21 07:57
cubexyz	microshit?	Feb 21 07:57
msb	Microfuckshitpiss	Feb 21 07:58
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5635129	Feb 21 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ibm insisted that it hadn't helped the #nsa with back doors despite #tpm work and recent revelations about hard-drive firmware bugs (IBM)		Feb 21 08:42
schestowitz	"Most of their Hard drive storage operation was sold off to Hitachi many years ago. And c"onsider Samsung, Seagate and the rest are now Asia centric.	Feb 21 08:42
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5630086	Feb 21 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hacker Claims Feds Hit Him With 44 Felonies When He Refused to Be an #FBI Spy http://www.wired.com/2015/02/hacker-claims-feds-hit-44-felonies-refused-fbi-spy/ recruitment by extortion/blackmail		Feb 21 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com \| Hacker Claims Feds Hit Him With 44 Felonies When He Refused to Be an FBI Spy \| WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/jrrqp ]		Feb 21 08:43
schestowitz	"Stuff like this is why I think they suicided Ilya Zhitomirskiy."	Feb 21 08:43
schestowitz	I read somewhere that it was suicide but could not confirm	Feb 21 08:43
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5635066	Feb 21 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Good explanation of how #microsoft attacks #linux right now http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/microsoft-fights-google-android-cyanogen/		Feb 21 08:44
schestowitz	"There's nothing potent about Microsoft's "cloud". Bing, Skype, Outlook are miserable failures like everything else Microsoft touches. Idiot news sources like Fobes said the same kinds of silly things when Microsoft subjugated Yahoo, but it went no where. Microsoft's corruption of Cyanogenmod is one or two orders of magnitude less important than that."	Feb 21 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.forbes.com \| Microsoft's Trojan Horse To Undermine Android - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/jrrqu ]		Feb 21 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How To Create QR Codes In Ubuntu/Linux Mint	Feb 21 08:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0AP0MHLvYA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 08:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How To Create QR Codes In Ubuntu/Linux Mint \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 08:49
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Mac Asay against convergence http://t.co/drdJTmuoGv some legitimate points...'		Feb 21 08:54
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, and Arduino...'		Feb 21 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| The Open Data Platform, like United Linux before it, will fail - TechRepublic		Feb 21 08:55
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, and Arduino...'		Feb 21 08:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3	Feb 21 08:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DFw8xlesax (major.io)	Feb 21 08:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Strength Of The SWORD ULTIMATE, Fully Funded &	Feb 21 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	Coming To Linux https://t.co/7zkEMq3lay	Feb 21 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 21 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrrvt	Feb 21 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Strength Of The SWORD ULTIMATE, Fully Funded & Coming To Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 21 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Download ClearOS Community 6.6.0 With YouTube	Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	School ID Support http://t.co/TRpESTFdpZ	Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Download ClearOS Community 6.6.0 With YouTube School ID Support - Softpedia		Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrrxs	Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Released – Detailed Review	Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	and Installation Instructions	Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6cj35p3lt9 (www.tecmint.com)	Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrrxt	Feb 21 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com \| Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Released - Detailed Review and Installation Instructions		Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, and	Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	Arduino I/O http://t.co/6YEFWIZpuB	Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Feb 21 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, and Arduino I/O · LinuxGizmos.com		Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrrxu	Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Official Ubuntu Phone Porting Guide Published	Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WTduPfM0lS (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs1m	Feb 21 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Official Ubuntu Phone Porting Guide Published - Softpedia		Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Shell Gets a Visual Refresh Based on the	Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	Redesigned GTK+ Theme In GNOME 3.16	Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RIumZld4g1 (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs1n	Feb 21 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Shell Gets a Visual Refresh Based on the Redesigned GTK+ Theme In GNOME 3.16 - Softpedia		Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why All Linux (Security) Bugs Aren't Shallow	Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/T3x7ylXAXw	Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.esecurityplanet.com)	Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs1o	Feb 21 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esecurityplanet.com \| Why All Linux (Security) Bugs Aren't Shallow - eSecurity Planet		Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the	Feb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	space station http://t.co/SNtX3rKZYJ	Feb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Feb 21 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the space station \| ZDNet		Feb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs2a	Feb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds: Write Linux Kernel Code, 'Get	Feb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	Hired Really Quickly' http://t.co/uRhv7jqkrq	Feb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.lifehacker.com.au)	Feb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs2b	Feb 21 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.com.au \| Linus Torvalds: Write Linux Kernel Code, 'Get Hired Really Quickly' \| Lifehacker Australia		Feb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	@rmsthebot @tuxmachines Giving the Linus Torvalds Award to	Feb 21 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	the Free Software Foundation is a bit like	Feb 21 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	giving the Han Solo Award to the Rebel	Feb 21 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	Alliance.	Feb 21 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs2c	Feb 21 09:46
*TweetTuxMachines @DanbecBeck followed @tuxmachines		Feb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video Overview	Feb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	and Screenshot Tours http://t.co/6ZSf2BG9pF	Feb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxscoop.com)	Feb 21 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com \| Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video Overview and Screenshot Tours - Linux Scoop		Feb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs4t	Feb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU	Feb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	Driver Code http://t.co/NBkqZiTYwk	Feb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU Driver Code - Phoronix		Feb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs4u	Feb 21 09:59
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozero huh	Feb 21 10:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Ozero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Feb 21 10:48
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/569094254401757185	Feb 21 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz @koenrh @marchijinkNRC #Gemalto CEO saw 'the writing on the wall' or he was a prophet ;-) http://t.co/QPrSx73A7X #NSA #GCHQ		Feb 21 11:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xfce 4.12 Should Be Released in One Week	Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ngGA1zUZ5j (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KFelyRGvii (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Xfce 4.12 Should Be Released in One Week, at the End of February - Softpedia		Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Gv5Rynbo34 (fossforce.com)	Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsor	Feb 21 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Xfce 4.12 Is Still Planned For Release In One Week - Phoronix		Feb 21 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Xfce 4.12, Raspberry Pi's Whole Number & More… \| FOSS Force		Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New features in Fedora 22 Workstation.	Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/r9eLWrhCwB (paul.frields.org)	Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	#redhat	Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsos	Feb 21 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.frields.org \| New features in Fedora 22 Workstation. - The Grand Fallacy		Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "The prize money for the award will be given to	Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	the TAILS Free Software project." http:/...	Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bFI9dTIOWS (joindiaspora.com)	Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsot	Feb 21 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com \| "The prize money ...		Feb 21 11:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/569099523898761216	Feb 21 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz @micahflee "sends copies of SIM crypto keys to carriers…often⇒email/FTP. What'd possibly go wrong…"with #Gemalto's stupidity?		Feb 21 11:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines T-Mobile Galaxy S5 lands Lollipop to lead this	Feb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	week's Android device update roundup	Feb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zdtscLty93 (www.greenbot.com)	Feb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsst	Feb 21 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com \| T-Mobile Galaxy S5 lands Lollipop to lead this week's Android device update roundup \| Greenbot		Feb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.3.6 Released as TDF Celebrates	Feb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	Three Years http://t.co/Px418EX8XB	Feb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrssu	Feb 21 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.3.6 Released as TDF Celebrates Three Years \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Editorial: Linux Gaming Will Be Fine Even	Feb 21 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	Without Steam Machines Succeeding	Feb 21 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/70OIH8cWZR (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 21 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrssv	Feb 21 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Editorial: Linux Gaming Will Be Fine Even Without Steam Machines Succeeding \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 21 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wayland/Weston 1.7.0 Make It For Ubuntu 15.04	Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ToxJbSnkBC (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsxo	Feb 21 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Wayland/Weston 1.7.0 Make It For Ubuntu 15.04 - Phoronix		Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app	Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	prevalence http://t.co/2PqaWZsjj8	Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	(searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com) "Windows	Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	applications are a hurdle"	Feb 21 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com \| Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app prevalence		Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsxp	Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux	Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	3.20/4.0? http://t.co/MUIpJfxKfd	Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) http://t.co/EtfTrQMF2J	Feb 21 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux 3.20/4.0? - Phoronix		Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Code Merged This Week For Linux 3.20/4.0 Is Just As Exciting As Last Week - Phoronix		Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsxq	Feb 21 12:39
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569114703294803970	Feb 21 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz #LibreOffice user here. Great news! Any word on #Kompozer? It's still the best OS web design tool I know.		Feb 21 12:51
schestowitz	I have not heard about it for years	Feb 21 12:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569116109099679744	Feb 21 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Development has stalled since 2007. I wonder if the issue is funding?		Feb 21 12:55
schestowitz	probably a contributing factor	Feb 21 12:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569117059642212352	Feb 21 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Have they considered crowdfunding? I would certainly help to publicise it by sharing on my social media accounts and blog.		Feb 21 13:01
schestowitz	Worth working towards if you can get in touch with the devs (probably moved on in their lives)	Feb 21 13:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118572515106817	Feb 21 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz That's the problem; web design ends up being restricted to pretentious Adobe Creative Suite users who don't know what "code"...		Feb 21 13:06
schestowitz	Why not use CMS with integrated WYSIWYG?	Feb 21 13:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118773397090305	Feb 21 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz ...means. If it's not W3C compliant you lose me at "Hello."		Feb 21 13:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569119752246988800	Feb 21 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz I do. And it's better and easier. However, if you don't understand how it actually works you can't deliver the results you want		Feb 21 13:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569120051590250497	Feb 21 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz which is why I always advocate learning to build from scratch. You can take shortcuts later when you understand what you cut.		Feb 21 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/98MbviM4E3 (www.webupd8.org)	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrt8j	Feb 21 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org \| Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog		Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GmB2UB3JpQ (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrt8k	Feb 21 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 - Softpedia		Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on Steam	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	for Linux http://t.co/BlXHvVM7f7	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on Steam for Linux - Softpedia		Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrt8l	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the	Feb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines	coolest Android phone ever?	Feb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xrgrvcmkz0 (www.networkworld.com)	Feb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrta8	Feb 21 13:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the coolest Android phone ever? \| Network World		Feb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra Secure	Feb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines	Messaging App	Feb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/y1tftc6U0t (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrta9	Feb 21 13:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra Secure Messaging App - Softpedia		Feb 21 13:41
MinceR	geekings	Feb 21 13:46
MinceR	the zero-copy scientes mentioned was yet another poor excuse: "Lennart said that it works better to simply copy anything that is less than about 512KB" http://lwn.net/Articles/580194/	Feb 21 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| The unveiling of kdbus [LWN.net]		Feb 21 14:10
XRevan86	schestowitz: rss2sn	Feb 21 14:17
*Sosumi (~Lain@bl14-18-246.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #techrights		Feb 21 14:17
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra...'		Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now Has	Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	Better ODT Format Support	Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BxcNGHunvs (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtka	Feb 21 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now Has Better ODT Format Support - Softpedia		Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On Linux	Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/d7oMel58D3 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtkb	Feb 21 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Many new LTS releases of gnu linux	Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xUM41MpuIG (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OJMjOSWO6i (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Edubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Has Been Officially Released - Softpedia		Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/S5ihB7PPrH (www.kubuntu.org)	Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Berq4Y3nND (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Kubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released, Users Can No Longer Upgrade to Plasma 5 - Softpedia		Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtkf	Feb 21 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kubuntu.org \| Kubuntu 14.04 LTS Update Out \| Kubuntu		Feb 21 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Arrives with Linux Kernel 3.16 - Softpedia		Feb 21 14:31
schestowitz	wow. sites of gun nuts http://www.ammoland.com/2015/02/america-in-distress-have-we-reached-the-tipping-point/#axzz3SOHBFUcr	Feb 21 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ammoland.com \| America In Distress - Have We Reached The Tipping Point? [ http://ur1.ca/jrtmm ]		Feb 21 14:40
MinceR	more like republican wingnuts	Feb 21 14:42
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Many new LTS releases of gnu linux http://t.co/xUM41MpuIG...'		Feb 21 14:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: Update	Feb 21 14:42
TweetTuxMachines	Coming http://t.co/acLhZSon3t	Feb 21 14:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.latinospost.com) http://t.co/FJNFeRE7wL	Feb 21 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latinospost.com \| Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: Update Coming to Motorola Devices After Nexus & HTC? : Tech : Latinos Post		Feb 21 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ibtimes.co.uk)	Feb 21 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtn6	Feb 21 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Android 5.1 Lollipop release date confirmed for HTC One M7 GPE, Nexus devices to follow soon		Feb 21 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.37 Adds UTF-7 Encoding, Interface	Feb 21 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	Change Notifications http://t.co/NAXVi9Tuof	Feb 21 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3Gl10yGKiS (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Wine 1.7.37 Adds UTF-7 Encoding, Interface Change Notifications - Phoronix		Feb 21 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4ratRZn0Sy (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 21 14:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtn7	Feb 21 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support, Fixes 71 Bugs - Softpedia		Feb 21 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Wine Development Release 1.7.37 Is Now Available \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 21 14:43
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636970	Feb 21 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/locally-integrated-menus-lim-set-as.html #ubuntu #linux		Feb 21 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.webupd8.org \| Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog [ http://ur1.ca/jrtnr ]		Feb 21 14:45
schestowitz	"Good!"	Feb 21 14:45
schestowitz	"As long as global can be configured :)"	Feb 21 14:45
schestowitz	"I don't find this feature particularly convenient. Probably the idea of some Apple fanboy inside Canonical. :P But yes it is good to have options."	Feb 21 14:45
schestowitz	One can install KDE on top as Ubuntu, as I often do..	Feb 21 14:45
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636961	Feb 21 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lendows or Lennux can be avoided http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installation		Feb 21 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> without-systemd.org \| Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jmy5s ]		Feb 21 14:46
schestowitz	"What distro are you using?"	Feb 21 14:46
schestowitz	Debian and Kubuntu	Feb 21 14:46
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636755	Feb 21 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ClipperChip/status/568912218412216321		Feb 21 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ClipperChip: .@ggreenwald EU: “We demand answers!” US: “The answers you seek are in another castle.” – EU: "Oh, okay." http://t.co/Ut3PMO4fb1		Feb 21 14:46
schestowitz	"These are not the answers you're looking for"	Feb 21 14:46
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msb	schestowitz: I think the non-systemd solution has to be: 1. a major distro, or one that uses the repos of one, so it has lots of support 2. not source code or run by one person (slackware funtoo gentoo) 3. is up to date and continually modernized, so it supports new games, media formats, etc. 4. is Linux, not *bsd, because Linux is vital for humanity.	Feb 21 15:45
msb	There are only 15 people in the PCLinuxOS IRC support channel, compared to 288 in the Suse channel.	Feb 21 16:06
MinceR	maybe suse needs that much more support	Feb 21 16:06
msb	No. PCLOS is created by one person.	Feb 21 16:07
XRevan86	MinceR: No, PCLinuxOS is really unpopular.	Feb 21 16:07
msb	XRevan86: Do you know why?	Feb 21 16:07
XRevan86	msb: Not really.	Feb 21 16:07
XRevan86	msb: I did look at it but quickly dropped it since repos are very small.	Feb 21 16:08
msb	So there is no distro suitable for the general public in that without-systemd.org list.	Feb 21 16:09
XRevan86	"Trisquel GNU/Linux" сan be removed from that list, by the way	Feb 21 16:09
msb	Suse was very well designed before it adopted systemd. It has lots of support.	Feb 21 16:10
XRevan86	since systemd will be in Trisquel 8.0 (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS)	Feb 21 16:10
msb	Damn!	Feb 21 16:10
msb	I guess we have to pray for Devuan.	Feb 21 16:11
XRevan86	Point Linux is Debian-based.	Feb 21 16:11
XRevan86	Pardus is Debian-based and also sucks a lot	Feb 21 16:11
XRevan86	msb: Pisi Linux is nice but repos are small, too :)	Feb 21 16:12
XRevan86	msb: They also did write there own init system.	Feb 21 16:12
msb	I figure if I haven't heard of it it's too small to be reliable.	Feb 21 16:13
XRevan86	msb: Have you heard about pardus?	Feb 21 16:13
MinceR	still more reliable than Lendows	Feb 21 16:13
XRevan86	msb: before it became a useless Debian derivate	Feb 21 16:13
msb	No.	Feb 21 16:13
XRevan86	Pisi Linux is a fork of Pardus	Feb 21 16:13
msb	None of these obscure distros is going to have much support, or can be counted on to be maintained for years.	Feb 21 16:14
msb	And if one run by one person becomes very popular, he'll probably be killed in a hunting accident by 87 stray bullets and a hand-grenade.	Feb 21 16:16
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msb	I'm not looking for one for myself so much, but for the general public, so they can use it before the systemd distros turn to shit.	Feb 21 16:18
msb	Alternate mode of death for people who oppose the fascist system: suicide by shooting oneself in the head twice.	Feb 21 16:20
msb	Goddess protect the Devuan people!	Feb 21 16:22
msb	VectorLinux has 13 people in its IRC.	Feb 21 16:39
MinceR	salix has 16	Feb 21 16:39
__martin__	holy shiet	Feb 21 16:39
__martin__	had no clue pentagon was this far	Feb 21 16:40
__martin__	"The research is based on extracting narratives from millions of American, Iranian and Chinese weblogs, and subjecting them to automated discourse analysis to compare them quantitatively across the three languages. The investigators then follow up using behavioral experiments with readers/listeners from different cultures to gauge their reaction different narratives “where each story makes an appe	Feb 21 16:40
__martin__	al to a sacred value to explain or justify a morally-questionable behavior of the author.” Finally, the scientists apply neurobiological fMRI scanning to correlate the reactions and personal characteristics of subjects with their brain responses."	Feb 21 16:40
msb	Wow, talk about "morally questionable"!	Feb 21 16:41
msb	So, based on that analysis, they automatically brew up a virus that kills the part of the person's brain that opposes the rulers.	Feb 21 16:42
msb	And deliver it to him by a drone.	Feb 21 16:43
msb	Of course if they're using fMRI they already have him.	Feb 21 16:44
__martin__	at least the main villain in the marvel's latest sci-fi blockbuster "jupiter ascending" copies the looks of young bill gates excellently so people can count one plus one and join the partial truths about him lol	Feb 21 16:53
__martin__	[directors = trangender matrix creators]	Feb 21 16:54
__martin__	trans*	Feb 21 16:54
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schestowitz	XRevan86: fork?	Feb 21 17:52
schestowitz	I think successor?	Feb 21 17:52
schestowitz	Or rename	Feb 21 17:52
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XRevan86	schestowitz: I can really say "successor" since something is still living with a name Pardus	Feb 21 17:56
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5637005	Feb 21 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #avg on 'malware' that "requires an Android device to be “rooted”" and for use to install it http://www.pcworld.com/article/2886932/android-malware-fakes-phone-shutdown-to-steal-data.html		Feb 21 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com \| Android malware fakes phone shutdown to steal your data \| PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jruta ]		Feb 21 17:58
schestowitz	"A scare piece against rooting your phone and/or using app stores like F-Droid?"	Feb 21 17:58
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__martin__	yep, like garret's secure boot apologism	Feb 21 17:59
MinceR	more like a piece of FUD against android, imo	Feb 21 17:59
MinceR	it's from IDG, after all	Feb 21 17:59
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5629974	Feb 21 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/568579388817735680		Feb 21 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: There is nobody on earth who has exploited 9/11 more frequently, shamelessly and self-servingly than Rudy Giuliani http://t.co/SAnRpC2tVc		Feb 21 17:59
schestowitz	"lol First person to say "9/11" nine-hundred and eleven times in one 10 min speech gets to legally change his name 9/11..."	Feb 21 17:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/roppert/status/569192299680428033	Feb 21 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@roppert: @schestowitz @teirdes Never trust big corporations, no matter how or what they do to convince us. Why? Cause greed is only common motivator.		Feb 21 18:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Riz_myth/status/569193154416545792	Feb 21 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Riz_myth: Dzekoooooooo is Backkkkk 3-0 & it's only 21mins of the game played #MCINEW \| #ManCityNewcastle		Feb 21 18:14
MinceR	http://imgur.com/gallery/kBTXDYe	Feb 21 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com \| Germany's heart of gold - Imgur		Feb 21 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Creating a Community: Getting Started	Feb 21 19:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New AMD Processors Supported By Coreboot	Feb 21 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New AMD Processors Supported By Coreboot \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps are	Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	almost here http://t.co/LzVrOrKDi0	Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps are almost here \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/KW5K9dSCba	Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 20:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636987	Feb 21 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Promotion of the 'cloud' religion has led people to not caring about #security or blindly trusting 'cloud' because "everyone's doin' it!"		Feb 21 21:42
schestowitz	"and Big Data, and the Internet of Things. All privacy disasters."	Feb 21 21:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux Distribution	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jjUzzWADEZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux Distribution \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts with	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	Geocodable Addresses http://t.co/4uLQB9ZYVL	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts with Geocodable Addresses \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	Workstation Pushed This Week	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9ySAQHyAmQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22 Workstation Pushed This Week \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 22:43
schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes	Feb 21 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat announces the availability of	Feb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globally	Feb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7WPNcfZW1R (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 23:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat announces the availability of Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globally \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released with	Feb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	Better Ubuntu Unity Support	Feb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mvzHuQSFPl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 23:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released with Better Ubuntu Unity Support \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mir Now Depends Upon C++14	Feb 21 23:25
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schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pilgmEahPUk	Feb 21 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| The Love Police: Riding God's Drunken Ferrari - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwvg ]		Feb 21 23:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support for	Feb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	Several RISC Microprocessor Architectures	Feb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nS0Q4g8R5H (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 23:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HD	Feb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics http://t.co/N7OF5A09rM	Feb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 23:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HD Graphics \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 23:38
schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc8hGD8ftFA	Feb 21 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| The Hobbit 3 "Will you follow me, one last time?" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwya ]		Feb 21 23:42
schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKQk06dqmzU	Feb 21 23:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| The Hobbit 3 Azog's and his armie and Bolg. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwym ]		Feb 21 23:44
schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW-IgJHM3cY	Feb 21 23:45
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schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t57AVYNcyBQ	Feb 21 23:47
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schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20F0Ms0GjoY	Feb 21 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| The Hobbit - People of Laketown fight back part 1 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwzx ]		Feb 21 23:50
schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LMIRK6riIc	Feb 21 23:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 14/2/2015: Mageia 5 Beta 3 Released, TPP	Feb 15 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	Imperialism http://t.co/qfdajvDTTJ	Feb 15 00:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 14/2/2015: Mageia 5 Beta 3 Released, TPP Imperialism \| Techrights		Feb 15 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Uh oh! Steam Machines are doomed or something	Feb 15 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HjD8knnHhu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 00:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Uh oh! Steam Machines are doomed or something \| Tux Machines		Feb 15 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cutegram 2, the Best Telegram Client for Linux	Feb 15 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	Ever http://t.co/8uzSSDGTik	Feb 15 00:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 00:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Cutegram 2, the Best Telegram Client for Linux Ever \| Tux Machines		Feb 15 00:10
cubexyz	check it out... just learned about this one:	Feb 15 00:12
cubexyz	https://srlabs.de/badusb/	Feb 15 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Send failure: Connection reset by peer ( status 0 @ https://srlabs.de/badusb/ )		Feb 15 00:13
cubexyz	Secure Boot, Intel Boot guard... what else? Oh yeah, Microsoft Surface RT tablets.. I'm sensing a bad trend here	Feb 15 00:17
MinceR	TPM, AMT	Feb 15 00:20
cubexyz	January 1st, 2015... all computers will have to be equipped with a TPM 2.0 module in order to pass Windows 8.1 hardware certification	Feb 15 00:22
cubexyz	I assume TPM can be turned off?	Feb 15 00:24
MinceR	it can	Feb 15 00:24
MinceR	but the manufacturer doesn't deserve to be paid for TPMs	Feb 15 00:24
MinceR	since it's foisted on users without asking them whether or not they want it	Feb 15 00:24
cubexyz	ok, so which motherboards should I be looking at?	Feb 15 00:24
MinceR	dunno	Feb 15 00:24
MinceR	i gave up on it	Feb 15 00:24
MinceR	since my TPM-less laptop was an unreliable piece of shit with crap support	Feb 15 00:25
MinceR	from dHell	Feb 15 00:25
cubexyz	well if the bios is socketed, that's one thing	Feb 15 00:27
cubexyz	you can pop the chip out and reprogram it	Feb 15 00:27
cubexyz	of course that assumes you have a lot of knowledge, or the board is already coreboot supported	Feb 15 00:28
cubexyz	I get gigabyte is worth a look, they have co-operated with coreboot	Feb 15 00:30
cubexyz	s/get/guess/	Feb 15 00:30
MinceR	sounds nice	Feb 15 00:32
cubexyz	I already reprogrammed Gigabyte GA-6BXC	Feb 15 00:33
cubexyz	but it's rather old	Feb 15 00:33
cubexyz	this is the best info I know about:	Feb 15 01:03
cubexyz	http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/systems	Feb 15 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org \| Recommended Complete Systems — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software		Feb 15 01:03
cubexyz	I guess if you can find a used Lenovo X200 cheap, buy it	Feb 15 01:08
cubexyz	or X60	Feb 15 01:08
MinceR	i already have a ThinkPad X220i Tablet	Feb 15 01:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/XbhHCcXTid	Feb 15 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 01:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Feb 15 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/C20t36NXy4	Feb 15 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 01:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Feb 15 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/J9613CnAkk	Feb 15 01:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 01:30
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MinceR	gn	Feb 15 02:15
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DaemonFC	MinceR, There's been some pushback on that, and Microsoft doesn't actually require it.	Feb 15 04:47
DaemonFC	Manufacturers of low end systems would have their profit margin wiped out because a TPM costs them about $30.	Feb 15 04:47
DaemonFC	Also, if you don't want to use the TPM, you don't actually have to. If you're really paranoid about it, just unload the Linux kernel modules that are needed to operate it.	Feb 15 04:48
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DaemonFC	Apple says it will make a self-driving car.	Feb 15 05:56
DaemonFC	That means that if you end up in a country that hasn't existed in 40 years or on an airport runway, you have only yourself to blame. :)	Feb 15 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 36 Won't Bring Native YouTube HTML5	Feb 15 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	Playback, But Will Sync Pinned Tiles	Feb 15 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NKUu1i2Mt6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 07:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Firefox 36 Won't Bring Native YouTube HTML5 Playback, But Will Sync Pinned Tiles \| Tux Machines		Feb 15 07:37
DaemonFC	http://www.zdnet.com/article/top-android-news-of-the-week-shipments-drop-for-first-time-android-wear-shipments-not-big-royalty/	Feb 15 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Top Android news of the week: Shipments drop, Android Wear not big, royalty battle ends \| ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jqdom ]		Feb 15 07:51
DaemonFC	The other shoe drops. Samsung announces that Microsoft's bloated crapware will be integrated into the Galaxy S6 and Microsoft drops the patent lawsuits against Samsung.	Feb 15 07:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/LinuxSocist/status/566843474779992064	Feb 15 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LinuxSocist: @schestowitz The same Police that have been corrupt tactics against Freetown Christiana for the past 40 years?		Feb 15 08:14
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/onlygoodcomez/status/566891865706754049	Feb 15 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@onlygoodcomez: @schestowitz @HeartPowered nothing could preventd them as the plans were to be followed true to suit whoever 'planned them" #falseflags		Feb 15 10:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/566912974590205952	Feb 15 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz bullshit....covering their ass, why?...everyone knows they are War Criminals.		Feb 15 11:01
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schestowitz	http://www.universityherald.com/articles/15905/20150214/harvard-and-mit-accused-in-lawsuit-of-discriminating-against-the-deaf-in-online-courses.htm	Feb 15 12:57
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schestowitz	http://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2015/02/13/why-we-cant-trust-vladimir-putin-n1956760	Feb 15 12:59
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schestowitz	"Vladimir Putin is a gangster at the head of a criminal state. Unfortunately, Russia is a nuclear armed criminal state run by ignorant and dishonest thugs. We simply cannot rely on the Kremlin to deal in good faith or perhaps even act rationally. The threat posed by this aggressor state can’t be simply ignored, but rather must be resolutely confronted and contained. "	Feb 15 13:00
schestowitz	http://www.laprensasa.com/309_america-in-english/2945004_cuban-journalist-who-wrote-about-fidel-castro-dies.html	Feb 15 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.laprensasa.com \| Cuban journalist who wrote about Fidel Castro dies :: La Prensa :: America in English [ http://ur1.ca/jqfdv ]		Feb 15 13:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynco/status/566959840358957056 https://twitter.com/glynco/status/566960970933624835	Feb 15 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz and torture actually makes us less safe http://t.co/QrEhMoFx0t		Feb 15 14:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz more on the voodoo science of torture designed by the modern day equivalent of snake oil salesmen http://t.co/mo32bPVwrZ		Feb 15 14:04
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schestowitz	80 million dollars	Feb 15 14:04
schestowitz	msb: #cia is now pursuing weather warfare http://marketbusinessnews.com/weaponized-weather-inquiry-alarms-rutgers-university-climate-scientist/48186 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2954051/Chill-factor-CIA-weather-query.html	Feb 15 14:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk \| Chill factor at 'cia' weather query \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jqfzg ]		Feb 15 14:51
schestowitz	not to be confused with that "chemtrail" BS	Feb 15 14:51
schestowitz	"	Feb 15 15:31
schestowitz	"As far as we are aware, the fee scheme for the Unitary Patent has not yet been officially agreed, i.e. it is still under discussion."	Feb 15 15:31
schestowitz	We attach the document without comment, in the hope that it might be of interest to you.	Feb 15 15:31
schestowitz	We forgot the attachment - but the document could be retrieved via the link we gave ... :-)	Feb 15 15:31
schestowitz	"	Feb 15 15:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JohnDiNardo/status/566982321031872513	Feb 15 15:38
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MinceR	geekings	Feb 15 17:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines elementary OS: is financial support the only	Feb 15 17:15
TweetTuxMachines	way to help a project grow?	Feb 15 17:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lGBLTuX9Va (www.linuxveda.com)	Feb 15 17:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqgtx	Feb 15 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| elementary OS: is financial support the only way to help a project grow? - Linux Veda		Feb 15 17:15
schestowitz	> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso	Feb 15 17:27
schestowitz	>	Feb 15 17:27
schestowitz	> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.asc	Feb 15 17:27
schestowitz	>	Feb 15 17:27
schestowitz	> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.sha	Feb 15 17:27
schestowitz	>	Feb 15 17:27
schestowitz	> do not use this in production, this is an internal preview (not even an	Feb 15 17:27
schestowitz	> alpha)	Feb 15 17:27
MinceR	:)	Feb 15 17:28
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5588112	Feb 15 17:32
schestowitz	"@sticks_us no, GNU people are hostile with us in fact. We are free software community but they seggregate us because of the license. We just react to this hypocrisy. I had joined in a free software activist group 1 year ago when I was a GNU fan and Debian fan, to the misfortune of them was at the same time I started getting interested in other Unix-like systems (BSD specifically), at the same time OpenBSD project was needing money to	Feb 15 17:32
schestowitz	keep the project alive or will die. I went there in IRC channel of that group there to ask to donate to OpenBSD or it could die if it did not receive donation and it is a free software project. The answer I received was: "I won't donate do a project that it's not GPL.". this is a sociopathic attitude, no empathy. After that I left the group because they did not advocate free software, just the product that they loved as fanboys. Now I	Feb 15 17:32
schestowitz	am a really skeptical and critical about this GNU community. They lie about free software."	Feb 15 17:32
schestowitz	There are legitimate reasons for FSF not to support OpenBSD. First, Theo de Raadt smears RMS. Second, UNIX is not GNU/Linux.	Feb 15 17:33
MinceR	perhaps they don't want to pay for something to be developed that is a gift to abusive corporations	Feb 15 17:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222	Feb 15 17:36
schestowitz	"http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"	Feb 15 17:36
schestowitz	proving that mass surveillance is not needed	Feb 15 17:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873	Feb 15 17:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873	Feb 15 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz ah, but they'll just say that's because there isn't enough of it :(		Feb 15 17:38
schestowitz	[17:42] <schestowitz> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222	Feb 15 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The assailant, PET the Danish Intelligence service confirmed a moment ago, was known to them." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597663 #surveillance fail		Feb 15 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #police on the ground - not mass #surveillance - secures #denmark http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_DENMARK_SHOTS_FIRED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-02-14-19-34-22		Feb 15 17:39
schestowitz	[17:42] <schestowitz> "http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"	Feb 15 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| Copenhagen shootings suspect was 'known to police' \| World news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jqgyr ]		Feb 15 17:39
schestowitz	The public will buy it	Feb 15 17:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015450534739968	Feb 15 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz more worrying is precedent that all we do/say/download should be run past 'thought police' in case is or will become 'bad'		Feb 15 17:40
schestowitz	Not because of terrorism but perhaps journalism, leaks, etc.	Feb 15 17:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015916463198210	Feb 15 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz not all of us !		Feb 15 17:43
XRevan86	I don't get it: http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux this only package in Devuan is built only for amd64	Feb 15 17:45
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XRevan86	and preaplpha is only for i386	Feb 15 17:45
XRevan86	pre-alpha*	Feb 15 17:45
XRevan86	I don't understand what this image has to offer.	Feb 15 17:46
MinceR	the iso was probably built on some developer's own machine	Feb 15 17:46
XRevan86	MinceR: Why repo is amd64-only then?	Feb 15 17:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567016422057193472	Feb 15 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz think it's about the motive & because can. The 'excuse'-war on drugs/terror/immigration/copyright violation increasingly second		Feb 15 17:46
MinceR	i don't know	Feb 15 17:46
schestowitz	indeed, and they get the data too (DEA)	Feb 15 17:47
MinceR	i don't even know if what is built by Jenkins goes into the repo linked above	Feb 15 17:47
schestowitz	me neither	Feb 15 17:47
schestowitz	MinceR: it's not a final product, far from it	Feb 15 17:47
schestowitz	but at least they build something	Feb 15 17:48
MinceR	indeed	Feb 15 17:48
XRevan86	Maybe they have some another repo?	Feb 15 17:49
XRevan86	Because… they are removing systemd-shim via ugly postinst in devuan-baseconf	Feb 15 17:50
XRevan86	and policykit-1 package requires libpam-systemd	Feb 15 17:50
XRevan86	ah, wait, I am silly, they're removing systemd-sysv	Feb 15 17:50
XRevan86	then it's okay, but still, this .iso of theirs must contain systemd	Feb 15 17:51
MinceR	i haven't installed it yet	Feb 15 17:51
XRevan86	Me neither, I'm just theorizing :)	Feb 15 17:51
cubexyz	maybe it's time for Gentoo	Feb 15 17:52
XRevan86	Xfce requires polkit, polkit requires libpam-systemd, libpam-systemd requires systemd with shim or not.	Feb 15 17:52
MinceR	gentoo can likely do things devuan won't do	Feb 15 17:52
MinceR	like removing polkit and consolekit and dependencies to them	Feb 15 17:52
XRevan86	and packages.devuan.org doesn't provide an override for it	Feb 15 17:52
MinceR	(that is, building a full system that does not include them nor depends on them)	Feb 15 17:52
XRevan86	MinceR: They won't because that's a strange thing to do.	Feb 15 17:52
MinceR	(i don't know yet how well it will work, but i'm planning to try)	Feb 15 17:53
XRevan86	what they should do is build polkit without systemd	Feb 15 17:53
MinceR	i don't think that trying to remove more of poettering & co's crappy code would be "a strange thing to do"	Feb 15 17:53
XRevan86	MinceR: And so every happy Devuan user will reboot his PC with "shutdown -r now"	Feb 15 17:54
MinceR	i don't know about "every happy devuan user"	Feb 15 17:54
MinceR	but it would be fine for me	Feb 15 17:54
XRevan86	and that's ConsoleKit	Feb 15 17:55
MinceR	certainly preferable than trying to figure out by trial and error yet again how to fix things when something like udisks2 silently dies	Feb 15 17:55
XRevan86	polkit… I don't know if one can detach it from Xfce or other DE	Feb 15 17:55
MinceR	and the documentation says nothing about how it's supposed to be started, because magic	Feb 15 17:55
MinceR	i can live without a DE	Feb 15 17:55
MinceR	the point is that in gentoo you can do stuff with dependencies that a binary distro could not easily allow you to do	Feb 15 17:56
MinceR	because there are only so many versions of the same package worth building	Feb 15 17:57
cubexyz	yes	Feb 15 17:57
XRevan86	MinceR: It also mixes builddeps with regular ones so if something requires libsystemd…	Feb 15 17:57
XRevan86	or libpulse	Feb 15 17:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/566976942327742464	Feb 15 18:01
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schestowitz	Even without footage from CCTV the choice of first target have away the religion	Feb 15 18:01
XRevan86	MinceR: Anyway, systemd is not what causes my issue with Devuan.	Feb 15 18:02
XRevan86	it's just… they called themselved Veteran UNIX Admins, they asked for donations without having a product	Feb 15 18:03
XRevan86	people advertized Devuan	Feb 15 18:03
XRevan86	and now they're doing stuff so slow I am starting to wonder if they know what they're doing	Feb 15 18:03
cubexyz	Unix traditionalists wouldn't use Linux though	Feb 15 18:03
cubexyz	they would use one of the BSDs	Feb 15 18:03
XRevan86	cubexyz: There is a special group of 'Unixers' who use OS X	Feb 15 18:04
cubexyz	sure, there's lots of groups	Feb 15 18:04
MinceR	yes, there are people who play with that toy and call it unix, even though it isn't	Feb 15 18:04
XRevan86	they tend to call themselves unixoids	Feb 15 18:04
cubexyz	there's groups for AIX and everything one can imagine	Feb 15 18:04
MinceR	and i don't particularly care who pays The "Open" Group this week for the trademark	Feb 15 18:05
XRevan86	cubexyz: I mean, a bit lot of people who call themselves users of Unix are users of OS X	Feb 15 18:05
MinceR	call an unreliable, insecure, shiny toy by any name, it will still be an unreliable, insecure, shiny toy	Feb 15 18:05
XRevan86	a big*	Feb 15 18:05
cubexyz	XRevan86, the real hackers want source code though	Feb 15 18:05
cubexyz	they like writing code, fixing it, etc	Feb 15 18:05
XRevan86	and so I suspect VUA in being ones	Feb 15 18:05
MinceR	XRevan86: there are many projects that ask for donations before their first release	Feb 15 18:06
MinceR	there's crowdfunding, for example	Feb 15 18:06
XRevan86	MinceR: These project are big and major.	Feb 15 18:06
MinceR	no, not all of them are	Feb 15 18:06
XRevan86	Devuan did nothing serious since the beginning.	Feb 15 18:06
MinceR	then don't donate to them	Feb 15 18:07
cubexyz	XRevan86, there's some pretty serious PDP-11 hackers still	Feb 15 18:07
XRevan86	MinceR: I don't, still I know people who did. I don't understand them.	Feb 15 18:07
MinceR	yeah, how dare they support a project that didn't get to its first release in one day?	Feb 15 18:08
cubexyz	MinceR, start up a crowdfunding thing for Anti-Systemd :)	Feb 15 18:08
MinceR	i don't think i need to	Feb 15 18:08
XRevan86	MinceR: s/one day/several months/;s/first release/serveral packages like patched polkit/	Feb 15 18:09
MinceR	if enough people want to maintain a debian wheezy-like reliable non-rolling non-systemd distro, that's nice and i'll use it	Feb 15 18:09
MinceR	if not, i'll just get by with bedrock and gentoo	Feb 15 18:09
MinceR	if that fails, i'll go to netbsd or whatever	Feb 15 18:09
MinceR	even if IT goes to hell, they can't prevent me from running a release that's still sane	Feb 15 18:10
cubexyz	hard to imagine every distro going systemd	Feb 15 18:10
cubexyz	I'm sure there will be some hold-outs	Feb 15 18:10
MinceR	i hope so	Feb 15 18:10
MinceR	but i don't know if it will happen	Feb 15 18:11
XRevan86	All those Devuan donations could go to Gentoo, for instance :)	Feb 15 18:14
MinceR	yeah, who needs diversity?	Feb 15 18:15
XRevan86	or if not Devuan then maybe some other group of people would do the job	Feb 15 18:15
cubexyz	I run a lot of old stuff, it's not going to disappear	Feb 15 18:15
MinceR	so it doesn't matter who does it, as long as it's not Devuan? :>	Feb 15 18:15
XRevan86	MinceR: No, you don't see my point.	Feb 15 18:15
XRevan86	Devuan had a lot of fuss, really a lot.	Feb 15 18:16
XRevan86	and a lot of donations	Feb 15 18:16
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XRevan86	and they didn't do anything worthy this attention and money	Feb 15 18:16
MinceR	i haven't seen the "fuss" and don't know how much money they got	Feb 15 18:18
XRevan86	MinceR: I've seen several pages on habrahabr about them with lots of comments	Feb 15 18:18
XRevan86	major Russian IT blogging network	Feb 15 18:19
MinceR	i don't read habrahabr	Feb 15 18:19
MinceR	and i don't understand much of russian	Feb 15 18:19
XRevan86	MinceR: Point is: Devuan got a lot of attention.	Feb 15 18:19
XRevan86	and they wanted it, just read http://debianfork.org/	Feb 15 18:20
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MinceR	on a russian website	Feb 15 18:20
XRevan86	MinceR: I read russian websites so no wonder I'm talking about them :)	Feb 15 18:20
MinceR	and i don't know how many experienced [ex-]debian package maintainers are working on it	Feb 15 18:21
cubexyz	do Russians use Linux a lot?	Feb 15 18:21
MinceR	seems to be a more significant limit to productivity than donations	Feb 15 18:21
XRevan86	cubexyz: Not really.	Feb 15 18:21
XRevan86	cubexyz: Just like everywhere else.	Feb 15 18:21
cubexyz	I thought Putin was trying to move people in that direction	Feb 15 18:22
cubexyz	but yeah, I talk to the odd Russian Linux person	Feb 15 18:23
XRevan86	cubexyz: Well, there is an idea to move government sector and schools to GNU/Linux.	Feb 15 18:23
XRevan86	but the product of this idea is… nothing, really.	Feb 15 18:24
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XRevan86	A lot of hatred toward Linux from school teachers	Feb 15 18:24
MinceR	if it's anything like hungary (another post-communist mafia state) then it depends on which vendor pays more in bribes at the moment	Feb 15 18:24
MinceR	right, also, underfunded teachers sucking at their job	Feb 15 18:25
MinceR	"but i can't learn anything new!"	Feb 15 18:25
XRevan86	MinceR: Yeah, kinda like that.	Feb 15 18:25
cubexyz	ALT Linux is Russian	Feb 15 18:25
XRevan86	cubexyz: And it sucks.	Feb 15 18:25
cubexyz	we have OpenBSD in Canada, along with Vector Linux	Feb 15 18:25
cubexyz	XRevan86, ok :)	Feb 15 18:25
cubexyz	I've never tried it	Feb 15 18:25
XRevan86	cubexyz: I've seen ALT Linux once (4.0 School Edition) in 2010, I think.	Feb 15 18:26
cubexyz	I use FC1 (ancient) and OpenBSD, plus I do a lot of classic computing	Feb 15 18:26
cubexyz	this box I'm on now is OpenBSD	Feb 15 18:26
XRevan86	I've wiped rootfs by apt-get dist-upgrade	Feb 15 18:27
XRevan86	I just don't know what went wrong.	Feb 15 18:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/englobalnewsp/status/567025653195616257	Feb 15 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@englobalnewsp: @schestowitz White House threatens to veto http://t.co/f9oCAdKoi4		Feb 15 18:27
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cubexyz	I think KDE 3.5.10 had pretty good keyboard support so you could use a lot of different languages	Feb 15 18:28
XRevan86	cubexyz: Government doesn't even use LibreOffice.	Feb 15 18:29
XRevan86	Linux and stuff are just words to get money for them.	Feb 15 18:29
XRevan86	Talks about government structures moving to Linux are going since 2009.	Feb 15 18:30
cubexyz	I know Russia had Elektronika series, like BK-0010, which was a DEC clone	Feb 15 18:30
cubexyz	so I know some Russians like Unix	Feb 15 18:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: That's USSR.	Feb 15 18:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: I know a lot of Russians who like Unix :).	Feb 15 18:32
cubexyz	Elektronika MS-0501 looked pretty good	Feb 15 18:33
cubexyz	not sure how expensive it was though	Feb 15 18:33
cubexyz	yes, I guess that must have been USSR era	Feb 15 18:34
XRevan86	cubexyz: Yeah.	Feb 15 18:34
XRevan86	cubexyz: The only Russian (Federation) project I know about is Elbrus.	Feb 15 18:35
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus_%28computer%29	Feb 15 18:35
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XRevan86	cubexyz: Of course, it is used in masses by… no one.	Feb 15 18:35
cubexyz	I wish we did have an affordable PDP-11 clone in Canada	Feb 15 18:36
cubexyz	there's just FPGA ones, nothing ready out of the box	Feb 15 18:36
XRevan86	cubexyz: Trick is that USSR was a different country with different science potential.	Feb 15 18:39
MinceR	greatly stunted science potential, thanks to communism	Feb 15 18:41
XRevan86	MinceR: And you sure we're living in communism	Feb 15 18:41
XRevan86	I heard it's called capitalism	Feb 15 18:41
MinceR	they called it that some of the time	Feb 15 18:42
MinceR	they renamed it like m$ renames their shit	Feb 15 18:42
XRevan86	MinceR: So, you're saying 80s are the time communism happend to USSR	Feb 15 18:42
MinceR	i'm not sure i understand	Feb 15 18:43
XRevan86	and 90s are the time when communism was rebranded to capitalism	Feb 15 18:43
cubexyz	so you go into a Russia computer store and it's all Windows and Apple	Feb 15 18:43
MinceR	well, yes, and it was supposed to have been replaced	Feb 15 18:43
cubexyz	and some Android I guess	Feb 15 18:43
XRevan86	MinceR: Soviet science died in 90s	Feb 15 18:43
MinceR	and then we realized that not much changed	Feb 15 18:43
MinceR	thanks to putin	Feb 15 18:43
XRevan86	MinceR: I see a lot of changes.	Feb 15 18:43
XRevan86	Dead science, dead manufacture…	Feb 15 18:44
cubexyz	hmmm	Feb 15 18:44
XRevan86	But the name is Yeltsin	Feb 15 18:44
XRevan86	cubexyz: And some FreeDOS	Feb 15 18:44
XRevan86	maybe even GNU/Linux, this also happens	Feb 15 18:45
cubexyz	XRevan86, there's a little bit of Linux and BSD in very small computer stores in Canada	Feb 15 18:45
XRevan86	Acer sells some laptops with Linpus	Feb 15 18:45
cubexyz	it's definitely a fringe thing	Feb 15 18:45
XRevan86	cubexyz: Same here, of course.	Feb 15 18:45
MinceR	XRevan86: i mean, the realization was due to putin	Feb 15 18:45
XRevan86	MinceR: Realization of what?	Feb 15 18:46
MinceR	that practically the same thing as the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the world	Feb 15 18:46
cubexyz	Linpus is Taiwanese I think	Feb 15 18:46
cubexyz	I tried it once, wasn't too good	Feb 15 18:46
MinceR	and is still non-democratic, still oppressive	Feb 15 18:46
XRevan86	> the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the world	Feb 15 18:47
XRevan86	Hmm	Feb 15 18:47
XRevan86	United States is a union in a way	Feb 15 18:47
XRevan86	and Soviet == Council	Feb 15 18:47
XRevan86	US has one…	Feb 15 18:47
MinceR	the USA is a different entity	Feb 15 18:47
MinceR	and a different kind of threat	Feb 15 18:48
XRevan86	MinceR: What kind of threat USSR was?	Feb 15 18:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines devuan is live (preview only)	Feb 15 18:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Rt5YfgryTI (mirror.debianfork.org)	Feb 15 18:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KKNAgLuVHU (mirror.debianfork.org)	Feb 15 18:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BuugNnYNKl (mirror.debianfork.org)	Feb 15 18:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines elementary OS: is financial support the only	Feb 15 18:48
TweetTuxMachines	way to help a project grow?	Feb 15 18:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9SzJasifW9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 18:48
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MinceR	a lot could be said about that	Feb 15 18:49
XRevan86	First democratic decision in Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_referendum,_1991	Feb 15 18:49
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XRevan86	76% of Soviet citizens voted for keeping USSR.	Feb 15 18:51
cubexyz	wow, I didn't know that	Feb 15 18:52
XRevan86	But oppressive USSR government desided not to listen.	Feb 15 18:52
MinceR	there still exist plenty of people in hungary who are deluded enough to believe that life was better under that empire	Feb 15 18:52
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MinceR	no wonder hungary is dying.	Feb 15 18:52
MinceR	they put a new dictatorship in place of the old one, after 20 years of democracy	Feb 15 18:53
XRevan86	I really know nothing about Hungary.	Feb 15 18:53
cubexyz	it's interesting to hear what goes on in different countries	Feb 15 18:53
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's hard to find good sources of information.	Feb 15 18:54
schestowitz	http://mrpogson.com/	Feb 15 18:56
schestowitz	"Valentine’s Day is an ancient tradition, mutated from a story of love and devotion by a martyr to a commercial period on the calendar. We all know it’s silly, but it’s fun, and we all love chocolate and roses and…"	Feb 15 18:56
XRevan86	MinceR: What threat USSR was exactly?	Feb 15 18:58
XRevan86	I still don't know.	Feb 15 18:59
MinceR	a military threat as well as a force that tried to force its own brand of dictatorship over ever more countries	Feb 15 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 is Live !	Feb 15 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/z1ZJD4D2Nf (makululinux.com) could	Feb 15 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	do with some proofreading..	Feb 15 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not Ubuntu	Feb 15 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rGNt22uKAE (linux.about.com)	Feb 15 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Changes Already For Linux 3.20 (Linux 4.0?) Are	Feb 15 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) http://t.co/BUhQVka6ur	Feb 15 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 15 19:01
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MinceR	and the economies of the oppressed countries were wrecked by them	Feb 15 19:01
XRevan86	MinceR: Like Iraq?	Feb 15 19:01
MinceR	for the sake of religious belief in their anti-economics	Feb 15 19:02
MinceR	like the whole eastern bloc	Feb 15 19:02
XRevan86	and Libiya?	Feb 15 19:02
XRevan86	or maybe even worse? O_O	Feb 15 19:02
XRevan86	In GDR people sucked dirt.	Feb 15 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0	Feb 15 19:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aN9jczhofr (www.kde.org)	Feb 15 19:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 is Live !	Feb 15 19:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lBZZalfBRL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 19:03
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XRevan86	East Germany*	Feb 15 19:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Staging Pull For Linux 3.20 Has A Lot Of	Feb 15 19:03
TweetTuxMachines	Changes All Over The Place	Feb 15 19:03
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XRevan86	Of course, those who were still alive.	Feb 15 19:04
XRevan86	and all that just because USSR wanted German oil.	Feb 15 19:04
MinceR	i didn't know about that	Feb 15 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not Ubuntu	Feb 15 19:04
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MinceR	did germany have oil?	Feb 15 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0	Feb 15 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Reiser4 Updated For The Linux 3.18 Kernel	Feb 15 19:05
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XRevan86	MinceR: Me neither.	Feb 15 19:05
XRevan86	MinceR: s/USSR/US/;s/Germany/$PLACE_A_COUNTRY/	Feb 15 19:06
XRevan86	MinceR: Okay, even if we assume socialist countries were terrible and awful and now they live like gods	Feb 15 19:07
XRevan86	MinceR: This is still not a military threat	Feb 15 19:07
MinceR	then read up on what russia did in hungary in 1956.	Feb 15 19:08
XRevan86	MinceR: Stalin's time, I see.	Feb 15 19:11
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MinceR	was i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?	Feb 15 19:20
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MinceR	202051 <@MinceR> was i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?	Feb 15 19:25
XRevan86	MinceR: hmm?	Feb 15 19:25
XRevan86	MinceR: I'm reading Wikipedia about the rebellion :)	Feb 15 19:25
MinceR	:)	Feb 15 19:26
XRevan86	I see rebels were quite nice guys	Feb 15 19:27
XRevan86	Wikipedia says something about acid but I can't find a photo	Feb 15 19:28
XRevan86	> Photographs showed victims with signs of torture	Feb 15 19:29
XRevan86	Okay, I don't want to look at this	Feb 15 19:30
XRevan86	very… nice… guys	Feb 15 19:30
XRevan86	> The leaders of all states, including Poland, Yugoslavia, China, which initially welcomed the Hungarian events, agreed that the state in Hungary can be saved only through armed intervention	Feb 15 19:32
XRevan86	MinceR: This doesn't seem to be a good example of true evilness of USSR.	Feb 15 19:34
XRevan86	too controversial	Feb 15 19:34
MinceR	not according to the USSR and their puppets, certainly	Feb 15 19:34
MinceR	this is a "controversy" like evolution is	Feb 15 19:35
XRevan86	MinceR: I guess Wikipedia is one of them.	Feb 15 19:35
XRevan86	MinceR: I didn't quote anything %).	Feb 15 19:35
XRevan86	everything*	Feb 15 19:35
MinceR	afaik there is at least one russian nationalist clique that has power over wikipedia	Feb 15 19:35
XRevan86	MinceR: The most controversial part is what these rebels did.	Feb 15 19:37
XRevan86	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/2/2c/Защитники_горкома_ВПТ._Будапешт._30_окт_1956.jpg	Feb 15 19:37
MinceR	of course, everyone who dares oppose the Holy Russian Empire must be a devil.	Feb 15 19:38
schestowitz	http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/07/1207471/-Thanks-to-abstinence-teaching-Elizabeth-Smart-felt-I-m-that-chewed-up-piece-of-gum	Feb 15 19:38
XRevan86	damn, english version has a different structure	Feb 15 19:39
XRevan86	hard to find parallels	Feb 15 19:39
MinceR	should have started there	Feb 15 19:39
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schestowitz	[19:41] <MinceR> this is a "controversy" like evolution is	Feb 15 19:40
schestowitz	It is controversial	Feb 15 19:40
schestowitz	Very	Feb 15 19:40
schestowitz	Not for the Catholic Church though	Feb 15 19:40
schestowitz	as they already accept it, unlike most of the dumb followers	Feb 15 19:41
XRevan86	I think Russian Orphodox still didn't	Feb 15 19:41
schestowitz	Though I think the Church will say, "God started Evolution"	Feb 15 19:41
XRevan86	Orthodox*	Feb 15 19:41
MinceR	the catholic pope might, i'm not sure about the rest of the priests	Feb 15 19:41
schestowitz	they're too busy thinking about the children	Feb 15 19:42
MinceR	lol	Feb 15 19:42
XRevan86	> There were approximately 213 Hungarian Working People's Party members lynched or executed during this period	Feb 15 19:42
XRevan86	English Wikipedia is not much into details %)	Feb 15 19:43
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schestowitz	The Soviet Union and the United States are different because of transparency	Feb 15 19:43
schestowitz	In Russia you get thrown out the window if you dare effectively criticise the regime	Feb 15 19:44
schestowitz	US dropped to 49th in press freedom	Feb 15 19:44
MinceR	and because there's still some degree of freedom of speech and democracy in the USA	Feb 15 19:44
schestowitz	Russia is almost 200th	Feb 15 19:44
schestowitz	US used to be much better, now dropping closer to USSR	Feb 15 19:44
MinceR	not always thrown out the window, some people get imprisoned instead	Feb 15 19:44
MinceR	say, for insulting the official cult of the state :>	Feb 15 19:45
XRevan86	schestowitz: I heard about silencing and stuff but throwing out of the window…	Feb 15 19:45
XRevan86	schestowitz: Have you heard about Lenta.ru?	Feb 15 19:45
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenta.ru	Feb 15 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Lenta.ru - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Feb 15 19:46
XRevan86	schestowitz: The reason for this replacement is an interview with one of the leaders of Right sector Andrey Tarasenko (from Russian Wikipedia)	Feb 15 19:48
XRevan86	strange that English one didn't mention that	Feb 15 19:49
XRevan86	And former editor-in-chief is not in jail or thrown out of the window but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meduza	Feb 15 19:50
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*XRevan86 really doesn't like exaggerations.		Feb 15 19:51
*MinceR isn't sure if this is concrete case is what schestowitz was talking about		Feb 15 19:51
XRevan86	http://crunchbangplusplus.org/	Feb 15 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-crunchbangplusplus.org \| #!++ Coming Soon		Feb 15 19:52
XRevan86	MinceR: It's the only fresh one I know.	Feb 15 19:52
MinceR	does #!++ use systemd by default?	Feb 15 19:53
XRevan86	MinceR: No idea.	Feb 15 19:53
XRevan86	MinceR: It is openbox-based.	Feb 15 19:53
XRevan86	So in either way it is fixable by installing/removing systemd :)	Feb 15 19:53
MinceR	i'm not sure about that	Feb 15 19:54
XRevan86	MinceR: It's Debian, you know.	Feb 15 19:54
MinceR	for example, its display manager might have a hard dependency	Feb 15 19:54
XRevan86	Actually, I have no idea what crunchbang used as a DM. Not gdm for sure though.	Feb 15 19:54
MinceR	lightdm, perhaps	Feb 15 19:55
MinceR	no, slim	Feb 15 19:55
XRevan86	I vote for slim	Feb 15 19:55
XRevan86	:D	Feb 15 19:55
cubexyz	surely it's not hard to add the DM you want?	Feb 15 19:58
MinceR	hopefully	Feb 15 19:59
cubexyz	I added icewm to openbsd	Feb 15 19:59
XRevan86	cubexyz: It is Debian.	Feb 15 19:59
MinceR	i've heard a ridiculous amount of packages depend on systemd crap	Feb 15 19:59
XRevan86	+ custom repo	Feb 15 19:59
XRevan86	trick is to find out what that repo is :)	Feb 15 20:00
cubexyz	on vector I got a ton of different ones: fvwm, icewm, kde, mwm, ratpoison, twm, xfce 4 and failsafe	Feb 15 20:00
XRevan86	I know where crunch's was	Feb 15 20:00
cubexyz	failsafe is just X and xterm :)	Feb 15 20:00
cubexyz	no window manager really	Feb 15 20:00
XRevan86	https://github.com/computermouth/cbpp/tree/master/CBPP_beta_02132015_src/localp uhm…	Feb 15 20:01
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XRevan86	what I am looking at?	Feb 15 20:01
XRevan86	> The packages on github and the .iso were solely intended to provide a proof-of-concept	Feb 15 20:02
XRevan86	ah, good	Feb 15 20:02
cubexyz	this is what happens when everyone gets too dependent on distros	Feb 15 20:03
XRevan86	cubexyz: What do you mean?	Feb 15 20:04
cubexyz	XRevan86, they get less knowledgeable and a bit lazy	Feb 15 20:04
cubexyz	old school Linux was a roll your own affair	Feb 15 20:04
XRevan86	cubexyz: You're talking about systemd or crunch?	Feb 15 20:04
cubexyz	XRevan86, I'm not really referring to a specific distro, just the fact everyone now expects everything to be 'easy'	Feb 15 20:05
XRevan86	cubexyz: I don't, I break 'easy' stuff too easily.	Feb 15 20:06
cubexyz	I put over 100 hours into my first coreboot install	Feb 15 20:06
XRevan86	I don't know what's wrong with me, I can't work with stuff I don't understand.	Feb 15 20:07
cubexyz	sometimes you just have to put the extra time in	Feb 15 20:07
cubexyz	XRevan86, well which distro do you like?	Feb 15 20:07
XRevan86	cubexyz: From what perspective?	Feb 15 20:07
cubexyz	useability, normal day to day work	Feb 15 20:08
XRevan86	cubexyz: Debian.	Feb 15 20:08
XRevan86	But I use openSUSE :).	Feb 15 20:08
XRevan86	because I like the way maintainership is made in it.	Feb 15 20:09
XRevan86	Debian + Open Build Service infrastructure == distro from my dreams	Feb 15 20:10
cubexyz	everything was going fine with Linux, then Fedora 15, boom, systemd	Feb 15 20:12
XRevan86	cubexyz: I didn't see Fedora until recently.	Feb 15 20:13
XRevan86	It's an awful distribution.	Feb 15 20:13
XRevan86	But I don't see what this has to do with systemd	Feb 15 20:13
XRevan86	dnf and yum will be awful even without it	Feb 15 20:13
cubexyz	Poettering works for Red Hat	Feb 15 20:14
cubexyz	it's like systemd central now	Feb 15 20:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: I know. I still don't think he broke yum :)	Feb 15 20:15
cubexyz	what's wrong with yum?	Feb 15 20:15
XRevan86	1. terrible way of adding/modifying repos	Feb 15 20:15
XRevan86	2. slow startup with stupid verbose output of what yum plans to do (fixed in dnf)	Feb 15 20:16
XRevan86	3. failure results to dublicate packages, fixable via a separate utility	Feb 15 20:17
XRevan86	4. all output is just a mess (fixed in dnf)	Feb 15 20:18
XRevan86	5. dnf is not feature-rich	Feb 15 20:18
cubexyz	ok, well I'm off Fedora unless you include older versions	Feb 15 20:20
cubexyz	FC1 is so old I'm upgrading my source only	Feb 15 20:20
cubexyz	what do you think of pkg_add or Portage?	Feb 15 20:20
XRevan86	cubexyz: I haven't seen pkg_add	Feb 15 20:21
XRevan86	Portage is complicated and slow, but I can understand why.	Feb 15 20:21
cubexyz	XRevan86, you might like it	Feb 15 20:21
cubexyz	That's what OpenBSD uses	Feb 15 20:21
cubexyz	also every repo will eventually disappear	Feb 15 20:22
cubexyz	unless someone maintains hosting for it	Feb 15 20:22
cubexyz	of course, the old method was just tarballs	Feb 15 20:23
XRevan86	cubexyz: Well, I don't put PM on a first place. But Fedora's is so terrible…	Feb 15 20:25
XRevan86	What else Fedora can propose to compensate that?	Feb 15 20:25
cubexyz	ok, I basically agree, but for different reasons	Feb 15 20:26
cubexyz	I'm using slackware based distros and BSD now	Feb 15 20:26
XRevan86	different indeed	Feb 15 20:27
MinceR	yum is unreliable	Feb 15 20:27
XRevan86	MinceR: Yes, that's a good description of it.	Feb 15 20:27
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600928	Feb 15 21:30
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schestowitz	"	Feb 15 21:30
schestowitz	Interesting, it might be worth to check it.	Feb 15 21:30
schestowitz	Meanwhile yesterday I finally tried Debian Jessie, I installed it from scratch to get the true experience, systemd and all. After taking a lot of time to install, maybe because I used a virtual machine, I booted it and noticed lots of daemons and services up, none known or directly useful to me.	Feb 15 21:30
schestowitz	So the gdm login screen appeared and without doing anything but waiting something like an X terminal appeared and gdm got restarted. Waited more and saw that a couple of times more. Tried to login and the same happened in the middle of Gnome startup. Tried with Gnome and Gnome Classic and got the same.	Feb 15 21:30
schestowitz	Have no idea if this is related to systemd or not, but instead of wasting time trying to debug this I'm more compelled to spend time migrating to OpenBSD.	Feb 15 21:30
schestowitz	"	Feb 15 21:30
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MinceR	"Journalists and DWN editors reading: please do not link this. We will	Feb 15 21:31
MinceR	have another more public release soon :^) Let it be a private valentine "	Feb 15 21:31
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5601543	Feb 15 21:31
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schestowitz	"That's really sad. I really liked m0n0wall. But I haven't used it myself for quite a long time... It was a good firewall and a router for my needs in the day."	Feb 15 21:31
schestowitz	Anyone can make a successor to it, like happens with Crunchbang now....	Feb 15 21:32
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597681	Feb 15 21:32
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schestowitz	"In the sixties Denmark imported people for the working force especially from Tyrkey. After that a a constant stream of people has come here - fugetives, Family reunification and migrants. We are one of the richest nations on Earth, with very good welfare. It is not strange that people want to come here."	Feb 15 21:32
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schestowitz	"I just talked to one of the employees of a local roast chicken joint (I live in Nørrebro where the moron came from)He said: I don't call him a terrorist, just a young boy who had enough. I am sure he knew who it was. It was 100 m from where they shoot him. And it is true. The young assailant probably knew less about Islam than I do. He simply do what some young men do - go amok. He could have just killed a local pusher and nobody	Feb 15 21:33
schestowitz	would have cared. Now it was in the rich part of Copenhagen and targeted at the Swedish artist. That makes a difference for everybody else (and it should). But this guy could have thrown his life away in so many ways."	Feb 15 21:33
MinceR	it certainly made a difference for the artist	Feb 15 21:34
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TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YasRoWqfwo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 21:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat wants you to contain yourself and your	Feb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	workloads http://t.co/E8TdwKWZgI	Feb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 21:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CrunchBang rises from the ashes	Feb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4cHb47k4Z8 (jimlynch.com)	Feb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fSWjoNo8tt (www.linuxveda.com)	Feb 15 21:52
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqi8p	Feb 15 21:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Edge Of Eternity J-RPG Tribute Now On	Feb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	Kickstarter, Has A Linux Demo	Feb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/EZEP5yNUCI (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqiaq	Feb 15 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenPi review – a Pi of Things	Feb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AJ3Te2hRsk (www.linuxuser.co.uk)	Feb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqiau	Feb 15 22:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat wants you to contain yourself and your	Feb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	workloads http://t.co/MHxqeKgrzF	Feb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Feb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqiav	Feb 15 22:02
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MinceR	i want red hat to contain themselves	Feb 15 22:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3	Feb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/q3CE0uK58O (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqidh	Feb 15 22:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As A	Feb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Ultrabook http://t.co/baIBUmjjSH	Feb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 15 22:18
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqidj	Feb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As A	Feb 15 22:19
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Ultrabook http://t.co/nxNWxo672s	Feb 15 22:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 22:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/IwQDdJtq1q	Feb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqier	Feb 15 22:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Some Linux distributions never change	Feb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yNRSjcV6bm (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqies	Feb 15 22:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3	Feb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cm5w1WNJ2D (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqiet	Feb 15 22:25
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'End of the m0n0wall project http://t.co/dNCo2HxIts'		Feb 15 22:25
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MinceR	http://economixcomix.com/home/tpp/	Feb 16 00:06
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cubexyz	you get the cheap stuff, but you lose jobs or...	Feb 16 00:37
cubexyz	you keep the jobs, and don't get cheap stuff	Feb 16 00:37
MinceR	and in the end the cheap stuff turns out not to be cheap	Feb 16 00:38
MinceR	gn	Feb 16 00:40
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited '5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not...'		Feb 16 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 16/2/2015: CrunchBang is Back, OpenPi	Feb 16 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	Reviewed http://t.co/wJ2JqVluke	Feb 16 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Feb 16 01:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/200hmMeV4D	Feb 16 01:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 01:31
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*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org \| Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell		Feb 16 04:00
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Feb 16 04:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-Performing	Feb 16 06:46
TweetTuxMachines	Android Smartwatch Yet http://t.co/XfNPB4CIY3	Feb 16 06:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 06:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqkwd	Feb 16 06:46
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600929	Feb 16 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: devuan is live (preview only) http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.asc http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.sha		Feb 16 08:32
schestowitz	"I do not care about the systemd vs linux debate but it is nice to have alternatives."	Feb 16 08:32
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msb	With friends like that...	Feb 16 08:44
msb	I think the kernel should be folded into systemd. Then maybe Linus would wake up and say something.	Feb 16 08:49
msb	In fact, just put Windows 10 in there and forget about the kernel.	Feb 16 08:51
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgZRIqoq70M	Feb 16 09:52
*TweetTuxMachines @jstockd favourited 'Green Bubbles: How Apple Quietly Gets iPhone Users...'		Feb 16 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/CydeRGF89b	Feb 16 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0	Feb 16 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by http://t.co/v3NeKakD2o (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux	Feb 16 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqmj5	Feb 16 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not Ubuntu	Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by http://t.co/L8QsxkFmhS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux	Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqmj6	Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 – Prometheus (64bit)	Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xhKqJFJ3bp (www.netrunner.com)	Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqmj7	Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-Performing	Feb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	Android Smartwatch Yet http://t.co/1lXy9FVgux	Feb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gizmodo.com.au)	Feb 16 11:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYD	Feb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqmnd	Feb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 – Prometheus (64bit)	Feb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6uT12eAM11 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqmnh	Feb 16 11:47
msb	Wow, the comcrap mail server and the whole comcrap website -- comcast.net is down! But my service is still working.	Feb 16 11:56
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msb	http://www.telesurtv.net/english/telesuragenda/Venezuela-Coup-Thwarted-20150213-0007.html	Feb 16 12:36
msb	http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.html	Feb 16 12:36
msb	http://www.globalresearch.ca/britain-and-canada-involved-in-foiled-us-venezuelan-coup-plot/5431523	Feb 16 12:36
msb	http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11208	Feb 16 12:36
msb	The US tried to "regime-change" Venezuela a few days ago!	Feb 16 12:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Prediction: 2020 the year of (PC-)BSD on the	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	desktop http://t.co/slAkoIDxxZ	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn46	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Leftovers http://t.co/kA2X0tbCQc	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn47	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ApKz9s4IG5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn48	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/E24s8zomzV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn4a	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wZqWOEr9uy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn4b	Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux Distribution	Feb 16 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ruk9jv0xby (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn4d	Feb 16 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATE	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	Edition - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2YbC9IKzf0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn7w	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CuBox-i review – an elegant mini PC which runs	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	Android, Linux and OpenELEC	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/M6CgpuCEAM	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidauthority.com)	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn7x	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What Every Company Can Learn From Xiaomi	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/r9FpZWBMI1	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerworlduk.com)	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn7z	Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5	Feb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4NTB7kLaar (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8c	Feb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released	Feb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines	with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HlJPQqLQjH (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8d	Feb 16 13:28
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released with KDE Plasma...'		Feb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event	Feb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rvCFNg2p4p (www.gsmarena.com)	Feb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8i	Feb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux Distribution	Feb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6pC8Uu7NeG (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8j	Feb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	@Geekkritik RT @tuxmachines: Meizu teases #ubuntuphone	Feb 16 13:30
TweetTuxMachines	ahead of MWC event http://t.co/aKf1G69vd5	Feb 16 13:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gsmarena.com)	Feb 16 13:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8u	Feb 16 13:30
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event...'		Feb 16 13:30
schestowitz	When "Cyber Security" means cracking networks of "enemy" nations and "Consumer Protection" means data #surveillance http://www.utahpeoplespost.com/2015/02/white-house-summit-on-cyber-security-and-consumer-protection/	Feb 16 13:37
cubexyz	ok, giving kwort a try	Feb 16 14:17
cubexyz	full report later	Feb 16 14:18
cubexyz	there's actually something rather like Unix v7 in the Linux world	Feb 16 14:23
cubexyz	ttylinux	Feb 16 14:23
cubexyz	http://ttylinux.net/dloadPC-i686.html	Feb 16 14:24
cubexyz	I'm hoping to find something minimal but still with X	Feb 16 14:26
cubexyz	+	Feb 16 14:28
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schestowitz	g2`: j0	Feb 16 18:27
g2`	Hello.	Feb 16 18:27
g2`	Yes?	Feb 16 18:27
schestowitz	sorry, wrong keystrokes :-)	Feb 16 18:31
schestowitz	meant to respond to MinceR	Feb 16 18:31
MinceR	j0	Feb 16 18:32
schestowitz	[21:40] <MinceR> it certainly made a difference for the artist	Feb 16 18:33
schestowitz	Indeed	Feb 16 18:33
schestowitz	But that's taking the statement a bit out of context	Feb 16 18:33
MinceR	:>	Feb 16 18:34
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g2`	I joined here based on because "social" was in the topic	Feb 16 18:40
XRevan86	g2`: hmm?	Feb 16 18:41
schestowitz	GNU Social?	Feb 16 18:41
g2`	i joined here after /alis social topic search	Feb 16 18:41
schestowitz	Channel #boycottnovell-social is social too	Feb 16 18:41
XRevan86	schestowitz: You're still not in GNU social, right? :)	Feb 16 18:42
schestowitz	I think it was suggested by balzac around 2009 after Fedora had made such a channel	Feb 16 18:42
schestowitz	XRevan86: well, I used to use identica, whose successor is Social	Feb 16 18:42
schestowitz	StatusNet	Feb 16 18:42
XRevan86	schestowitz: This is past, I'm interested in present :).	Feb 16 18:42
schestowitz	running what was identi.ca at the time	Feb 16 18:42
schestowitz	I am no longer active in identi.ca	Feb 16 18:43
schestowitz	I moved to Diaspora	Feb 16 18:43
XRevan86	identi.ca is an instance of pump.io	Feb 16 18:43
XRevan86	now	Feb 16 18:43
schestowitz	after three people had invited me	Feb 16 18:43
schestowitz	pump.io does not interest me much (too basic) and Evan didn't give me my data from StatusNet, so I can't migrate to Social	Feb 16 18:44
XRevan86	schestowitz: I did tell you that importing data is not implemented anyway.	Feb 16 18:44
schestowitz	Even if export was possible, that's something	Feb 16 18:44
schestowitz	I can put online, and self-host, what I posted	Feb 16 18:45
schestowitz	As I did with Digg when it went Kaput	Feb 16 18:45
schestowitz	and with twitter before it dies, which it will one day	Feb 16 18:45
schestowitz	http://schestowitz.com/tweets	Feb 16 18:45
XRevan86	schestowitz: You can use twitter bridge, by the way.	Feb 16 18:46
XRevan86	Anyway, today's identi.ca is not StatusNet and so is not it's data	Feb 16 18:46
g2`	I'm not that familiar with the boycott novell situation..	Feb 16 18:46
XRevan86	schestowitz: You actually could export data from identi.ca but only before it migrated to pump.io	Feb 16 18:47
XRevan86	StatusNet and GNU social support exporting.	Feb 16 18:47
XRevan86	schestowitz: And I don't think Evan stores data from back then.	Feb 16 18:48
XRevan86	http://skilledtests.com/wiki/Statusnet_problems#data_portability	Feb 16 18:49
XRevan86	schestowitz: Does Diaspora* support Atom/RSS?	Feb 16 18:49
XRevan86	schestowitz: There are ways of automatic fetching of Atom streams in GNU social.	Feb 16 18:50
XRevan86	https://loadaverage.org/lor this account works in that way	Feb 16 18:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATE	Feb 16 18:57
TweetTuxMachines	Edition - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 18:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KtlUs5Wj5s (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3f	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zawlGfEAfP (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3g	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.0 Lollipop Is More Stable Than iOS 8:	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	Report http://t.co/71Vewb0jTp	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3m	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Malta to start government software repository	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Is6iQWXbcg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3n	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DmvlOtMepe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3p	Feb 16 18:58
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*TweetTuxMachines @greenlionnet favourited 'The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0...'		Feb 16 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running	Feb 16 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	a desktop) http://t.co/veUTXN3tpQ (lkcl.net)	Feb 16 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpac	Feb 16 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYD	Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpav	Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Android 5.0 Lollipop has a tiny slight edge	Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	when it comes to stability"	Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/k9VmH7EZDl (www.techtimes.com)	Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpax	Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast and	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	User-Friendly Arch Linux Distro	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Z0VfdD0i8B (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpb0	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Galicia publishes CeMIT classroom management	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	system http://t.co/u1wxMsgbd0	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpb3	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities Corrected	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	in All Supported Ubuntu OSes	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IAs95NXvG0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpb4	Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But	Feb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/E8osEWsSGU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbl	Feb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running	Feb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	a desktop) http://t.co/oxPxRJVsQn	Feb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbm	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LG's new Android Wear smartwatch, the Watch	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	Urbane, has an all-metal body	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sFljz39f3w (www.gizmag.com)	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbn	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xposed Framework For Android Lollipop Now	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	Available: What You Need To Know	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5JL99N0DrV (www.techtimes.com)	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbo	Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 4.4 KitKat Update Now Available for	Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	Xolo Q1200 http://t.co/jTGaT7UVbQ	Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	(gadgets.ndtv.com)	Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpdz	Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lenovo A6000, A5000, P70, S90 and Others to Get	Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	Android 5.0 Lollipop Update Soon	Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GOimx8zt6W (www.ibtimes.co.in)	Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpe0	Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu for Phones a reality	Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BQukn70R5G (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpe1	Feb 16 19:49
MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/piYLcaF.jpg	Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best new icon packs for Android (February 2015)	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	#2 http://t.co/w9I3QXiDOe (www.phonearena.com)	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	"customization is one of the main selling	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	points"	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpfs	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cut the Rope Is the First Major Game Ported for	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/6hTMsPyDId	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpfu	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	@brolettolinux RT @tuxmachines: Removing Systemd from Debian	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	(and still running a desktop)	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NOWU8Q3q79 (lkcl.net)	Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpfw	Feb 16 20:00
msb	Comcast is censoring e-mails! Any e-mail from Comcast containing this URL is never sent. http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.html	Feb 16 20:04
msb	schestowitz: no bot?	Feb 16 20:04
cubexyz	do you get my emails?	Feb 16 20:05
msb	When did you send one?	Feb 16 20:05
cubexyz	just now	Feb 16 20:06
cubexyz	just curious if stuff from my mail server gets through	Feb 16 20:06
cubexyz	I see your emails though	Feb 16 20:07
msb	I got it.	Feb 16 20:08
cubexyz	I got your telesurtv.net message	Feb 16 20:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Arnold's T-800 Terminator Runs Linux Kernel	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	4.1, We're All Doomed http://t.co/O6kmn2QmtG	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/9RiocPoBoo	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxveda.com)	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqphy	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OS	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	Devs Say People Should Pay	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LuzRsexXTe (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	nothing forbids it.	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqphz	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Legends Of Eisenwald, A Medieval RPG & Strategy	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	Game Is Coming To Linux https://t.co/jBXhLzaPdW	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpi0	Feb 16 20:11
msb	cubexyz: yes. I found which url was censored, and tinyurled it. Then it went thru.	Feb 16 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the Fedora	Feb 16 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	family http://t.co/2h5mvIyVoh (www.scrye.com)	Feb 16 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpiu	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Their official site notes that Linux will be a	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	platform, and their publisher is the	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-friendly Devolver Digi...	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bo3cYSIIU9 (joindiaspora.com)	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpiw	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/mnO14Wru26	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpiz	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds: I don’t care if Terminator	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	robots run on Linux http://t.co/F7hYruRgy2	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpj1	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OS	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	Devs Say People Should Pay	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kfhGEf5TPH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpj2	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 Officially Released, Not	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	Yet Ready for 64-bit - Video	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VMMXlf9xAe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpj3	Feb 16 20:16
MinceR	somebody forgot the name "Cyberdyne Systems"	Feb 16 20:19
msb	Anybody here using Comcast?	Feb 16 20:21
MinceR	thankfully not me	Feb 16 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the Fedora	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	family http://t.co/Jrm9xDCJEz	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpkw	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OS	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	with the Latest NVIDIA Drivers	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kn9s1syrKB (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpkx	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpky	Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities Corrected	Feb 16 20:42
TweetTuxMachines	in All Supported Ubuntu OSes	Feb 16 20:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AQMgS0bUg6 (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpok	Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #BridgeLinux #Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast and	Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	User-Friendly Arch Linux Distro	Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRb (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	#gnome too: http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRb	Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpol	Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Project Reaches 83% Reproducible Builds	Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	for Source Packages http://t.co/IcXpRuey8W	Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpom	Feb 16 20:43
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XRevan86	http://habrahabr.ru/post/250707 about russian distros	Feb 16 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 16/2/2015: Netrunner 15, Bridge Linux	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jss77NuQ1p (techrights.org)	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprf	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OS	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	with the Latest NVIDIA Drivers	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rIsy3vAxyi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprg	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why I am a Member of the Open Source Initiative	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QEYsBnBa4M (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprj	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3pm3OTgWuh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprk	Feb 16 20:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/c2wL9ooW3Z	Feb 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqqhq	Feb 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/znwJAeu5o8	Feb 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqqhr	Feb 16 23:04
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cubexyz	ok, I can report good results for AntiX 13.2	Feb 16 23:22
cubexyz	debian based OS, no systemd	Feb 16 23:22
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MinceR	gn	Feb 17 00:50
*TweetTuxMachines @TheBlacksmithP followed @tuxmachines		Feb 17 00:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/k6x9R9Bdmg (www.datamation.com)	Feb 17 00:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr1g	Feb 17 00:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Login2truth/status/567491965370261504	Feb 17 01:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines gnu linux and in malawi http://t.co/SBNqqxvFJF	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	(lodahl.blogspot.co.uk)	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5o	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wk54PkyVyR (linuxgizmos.com)	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5p	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Spelling in Malawi http://t.co/CAxixL4JJ7	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5q	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kYESevnmSi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5s	Feb 17 01:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/i9R9towuz7	Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrhn	Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux A Labour Of Love?	Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrho	Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/JjfBm64QyZ	Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrhp	Feb 17 02:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines systemd 219 http://t.co/jw2CvLUnYI	Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrkc	Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for	Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	Download, Chromebook Image Included	Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cN9BNdfWG3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrke	Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the	Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	Community, Says Linux Foundation	Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Y8EY4JCZ5X (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrkg	Feb 17 02:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install In	Feb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize Tasks	Feb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6skwD8GX4L (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsng	Feb 17 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install In Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize Tasks \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Project Points to Danger of Boutique	Feb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines	Distros http://t.co/3yL0S2S0Hg	Feb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsni	Feb 17 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Project Points to Danger of Boutique Distros \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You	Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	Wherever You Go http://t.co/iViCZlwU35	Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsuq	Feb 17 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever You Go \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto	Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/5gOS8Kgold	Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsur	Feb 17 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto Doesn't Work On Linux? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But	Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/a66qGsD8hI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsus	Feb 17 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 07:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple	Feb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines	lookalike http://t.co/uRl771b465	Feb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtjk	Feb 17 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon http://t.co/QlisN61LVM	Feb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtjm	Feb 17 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 09:43
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros http://t.co/kYESevnmSi'		Feb 17 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 09:43
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Is Linux A Labour Of Love? http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe'		Feb 17 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But...'		Feb 17 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Is Linux A Labour Of Love? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced	Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	below P5k http://t.co/TnHNBfAP9y	Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtql	Feb 17 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced below P5k \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where do we stand after 30 years after the	Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	founding of the Free Software Foundation?	Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zrQCDx7jDj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtqm	Feb 17 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Where do we stand after 30 years after the founding of the Free Software Foundation? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now	Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	Available on PCs http://t.co/jNatXbCa6y	Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtqn	Feb 17 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on...'		Feb 17 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your	Feb 17 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi https://t.co/QDu9nAYAdu	Feb 17 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.adafruit.com)	Feb 17 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtrc	Feb 17 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adafruit.com \| Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your Raspberry Pi #piday #raspberrypi @Raspberry_Pi « Adafruit Industries – Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!		Feb 17 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Radical Idea For More Linux Game Ports	Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BHjD18j97R (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	"Canonical and Red Hat finance the ports."	Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtry	Feb 17 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| A Radical Idea For More Linux Game Ports - Phoronix		Feb 17 10:26
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike...'		Feb 17 10:26
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With...'		Feb 17 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon reviewed	Feb 17 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lW0r2hqi5D (distrowatch.com)	Feb 17 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqttg	Feb 17 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com \| DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.		Feb 17 10:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever...'		Feb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	@miniputing This is actually quite nice RT @tuxmachines	Feb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your	Feb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi https://t.co/wTkzVQoj40	Feb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.adafruit.com) …	Feb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtuy	Feb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Continues to Attack Software Freedom	Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	Through UEFI http://t.co/QuN3a6M5u4	Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org) http://t.co/YU2RYG3ERd	Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu04	Feb 17 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Intel Continues to Attack Software Freedom Through UEFI \| Techrights		Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple	Feb 17 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| UEFI - Techrights		Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	lookalike http://t.co/ZV1OFALUV7	Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techzim.co.zw)	Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu05	Feb 17 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw \| Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike - Techzim		Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/SqEqer8MpY	Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxjournal.com)	Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu06	Feb 17 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| The Usability of GNOME \| Linux Journal		Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,	Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/gaPHO799G1	Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu2k	Feb 17 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source	Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0w8PvpgIgS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu2l	Feb 17 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let It	Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwg	Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu2m	Feb 17 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don’t Let It Kill Android Players Too \| Techrights		Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines systemd 219 http://t.co/WshyjU01xf	Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	(lists.freedesktop.org)	Feb 17 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org \| [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd 219		Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu87	Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/NvzSfc3Ari	Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	(lists.freedesktop.org)	Feb 17 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org \| [ANNOUNCE] wayland 1.7.0		Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu88	Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Using OpenGL with GTK+ https://t.co/cXtSxEzylh	Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.bassi.io)	Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu89	Feb 17 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bassi.io \| halting problem : Using OpenGL with GTK+		Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux A Labour Of Love?	Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lVURJEaLfM	Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.everydaylinuxuser.com)	Feb 17 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| Is Linux A Labour Of Love? « Everyday Linux User		Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu8a	Feb 17 11:35
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Is Linux A Labour Of Love? http://t.co/lVURJEaLfM'		Feb 17 11:48
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, http://engt.co/1FU17oK	Feb 17 11:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux 4.0	Feb 17 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PzPnGvfDEI (www.linuxplanet.com)	Feb 17 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #kernel	Feb 17 12:03
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqugb	Feb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto	Feb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/obsbOyB5FW	Feb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.lifehacker.com.au)	Feb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	microsoft silverlight still a cancer on the Web	Feb 17 12:03
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqugc	Feb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation	Feb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gm24wef8E5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquge	Feb 17 12:03
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*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because...'		Feb 17 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for	Feb 17 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	Download, Chromebook Image Included	Feb 17 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/J5ylpU2bsf (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquhf	Feb 17 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for Download, Chromebook Image Included - Softpedia		Feb 17 12:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) released	Feb 17 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aza0Qb03MM (frugalware.org)	Feb 17 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquj9	Feb 17 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-frugalware.org \| Frugalware		Feb 17 12:15
*TweetTuxMachines @whiletrueweb favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'		Feb 17 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the	Feb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	Community, Says Linux Foundation	Feb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/eStktbW0ty (thevarguy.com)	Feb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqun5	Feb 17 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the Community, Says Linux Foundation \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Feb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You	Feb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	Wherever You Go http://t.co/gieHeNKc14	Feb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.makeuseof.com)	Feb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqun6	Feb 17 12:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DNF 0.6.4 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.5 Released	Feb 17 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oL9cSdw9Xh (dnf.baseurl.org)	Feb 17 12:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqun7	Feb 17 12:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever...'		Feb 17 12:37
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'		Feb 17 12:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraph	Feb 17 12:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cI7F0ZU4sy (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 17 12:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqur3	Feb 17 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraph - Phoronix		Feb 17 12:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/sWzWyVJJWY	Feb 17 12:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 12:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquss	Feb 17 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 12:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVt	Feb 17 12:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 12:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqust	Feb 17 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 12:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Resistance to successors of #!	Feb 17 12:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/p8Yxh6ddC4 (crunchbang.org)	Feb 17 12:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqusu	Feb 17 12:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "It seems, that the passion of the community of	Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	#! was too overwhelming..."	Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BR6VuTJKYW	Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	(digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk)	Feb 17 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk \| Digitallofice: #! is dead - Long live #!++		Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv3n	Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It	Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)	Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	also see http://t.co/q8fp11QjUF	Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	(androidheadlines.com)	Feb 17 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.idigitaltimes.com \| First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?		Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv3o	Feb 17 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-androidheadlines.com \| Ubuntu-Powered Meizu Handset Will Be Unveiled At MWC, Company's Official Teaser Confirms \| Androidheadlines.com		Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column	Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lw6PRkmLLd (www.linuxuser.co.uk)	Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv3p	Feb 17 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk \| Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column \| Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generation		Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Screenshot Tour of Bodhi Linux 3.0.0	Feb 17 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kwnsNEGMoX (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv44	Feb 17 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Officially Released, Uses the Numix Icons - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Feb 17 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux Games	Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	For Dirt Cheap https://t.co/Z5wUu4vHY9	Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com) http://t.co/yEUPCBTkae	Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamasutra.com)	Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv46	Feb 17 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux Games For Dirt Cheap \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 17 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamasutra.com \| Gamasutra - Press Releases - Steam games for Windows, Mac and Linux – just 25 cents each in the new Trinity Bundle!		Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 17 years of defending open source: Join the OSI	Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	today http://t.co/bayC7upQKy	Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv48	Feb 17 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 17 years of defending open source: Join the OSI today \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open	Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	Source Experts http://t.co/0WNuj0djaU	Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv4p	Feb 17 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column	Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/alRgoYZqjx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv4q	Feb 17 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2+ years with network management in KDE	Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Gm94nImZnT (grulja.wordpress.com)	Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv4r	Feb 17 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grulja.wordpress.com \| 2+ years with network management in KDE \| Jan Grulich		Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	@rmsthebot @tuxmachines You should say GNU/Linux or	Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	GNU+Linux.	Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv6a	Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour	Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Y6v9d7sU19 (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv6b	Feb 17 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance,	Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	this time in the Philippines	Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/q3laUGjTFK (www.phonearena.com)	Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YqOkVDli8E (www.gmanetwork.com)	Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv6c	Feb 17 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance, this time in the Philippines		Feb 17 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gmanetwork.com \| Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced below P5k \| SciTech \| GMA News Online		Feb 17 14:00
*TweetTuxMachines @HandsOnGeek followed @tuxmachines		Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where do we stand after 30 years after the	Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	founding of the Free Software Foundation?	Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CgpciLYsmz (opensource.com)	Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv76	Feb 17 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Interview with John Sullivan, Executive Director of Free Software Foundation \| Opensource.com		Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,	Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/SoU4zCz9Vy	Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid - Softpedia		Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv77	Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	Available on PCs http://t.co/YFkeMJ7Zsq	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs - Softpedia		Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv7x	Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source	Feb 17 14:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7Lj3MmEOVP (joinup.ec.europa.eu)	Feb 17 14:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv7z	Feb 17 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu \| Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source \| Joinup		Feb 17 14:07
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation http://t.co/gm24wef8E5'		Feb 17 14:14
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will...'		Feb 17 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 14:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open	Feb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	Source Experts http://t.co/Smq6BljUrW	Feb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Feb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvhr	Feb 17 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Feb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let It	Feb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwg	Feb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (techrights.org)	Feb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvc7	Feb 17 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don’t Let It Kill Android Players Too \| Techrights		Feb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Leftovers http://t.co/bnPE3aNWb0	Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvko	Feb 17 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Softpedia's Screenshot Tours	Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Lay4m26NZj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvkp	Feb 17 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Softpedia's Screenshot Tours \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVt	Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Feb 17 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvk2	Feb 17 15:01
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611035	Feb 17 16:32
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schestowitz	"Because US politicians pushing for a nuclear war with Russia are a model of sanity."	Feb 17 16:32
schestowitz	They are the "insane we like", or "our kind of insane"	Feb 17 16:32
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XRevan86	schestowitz: I was wrong apparently, there is a data import in GNU social.	Feb 17 16:53
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MinceR	geekings	Feb 17 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth A	Feb 17 18:53
TweetTuxMachines	Look https://t.co/rgMQU7oKMk	Feb 17 18:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 17 18:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqwym	Feb 17 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth A Look \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 17 18:53
MinceR	http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/	Feb 17 18:56
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MinceR	http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-02-17	Feb 17 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilbert.com \| Elbonians Hacked Their Network - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2015-02-17 \| Dilbert by Scott Adams		Feb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open-source software aims to change game for	Feb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	smart facades http://t.co/rGxvrp9x5N	Feb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqx5x	Feb 17 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open-source software aims to change game for smart facades \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/WawMIl4I6L	Feb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqx60	Feb 17 19:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 17/2/2015: SystemD 219, Frugalware 2.0	Feb 17 19:30
TweetTuxMachines	(Rigel) Released http://t.co/HzzV7k3Sgk	Feb 17 19:30
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Feb 17 19:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqx61	Feb 17 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 17/2/2015: SystemD 219, Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) Released \| Techrights		Feb 17 19:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Pj019nZPXR	Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxnm	Feb 17 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/YaiEg3t5nT	Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxns	Feb 17 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/XBpVyriDpG	Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews	Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	TripleO http://t.co/y0yzy2snWV	Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015	Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8BxEhsKvgP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxnz	Feb 17 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hcOeLZW7kx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxo1	Feb 17 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2 \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SUSE Unveils Open Source Enterprise Storage	Feb 17 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Ceph http://t.co/anodaO8bID	Feb 17 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxo6	Feb 17 20:46
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Sosumi	actually Putin has been dubbed an autist	Feb 17 20:56
Sosumi	but lol	Feb 17 20:56
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/how-omnipotent-hackers-tied-to-the-nsa-hid-for-14-years-and-were-found-at-last/	Feb 17 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| How “omnipotent” hackers tied to NSA hid for 14 years—and were found at last \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jqxqs ]		Feb 17 20:56
Sosumi	has anyone read it	Feb 17 20:56
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Sosumi	quite a sensational piece for an already known problem	Feb 17 20:57
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cubexyz	well it lives	Feb 17 20:59
cubexyz	got the ol' HP Laserjet 5N working again	Feb 17 20:59
Sosumi	defibrillated it? :)	Feb 17 21:00
cubexyz	had to turn on the parallel port on one box	Feb 17 21:00
cubexyz	cleaned it up, put in a refurbished toner cartridge	Feb 17 21:01
cubexyz	it fits in well with all the other old computers	Feb 17 21:02
Sosumi	:)	Feb 17 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Enters The Classroom	Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/28DQOxDIt2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 21:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open Source Enters The Classroom \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app	Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oEF8IaEbT4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxx0	Feb 17 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP adds scale to open-source R in latest big	Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	data platform http://t.co/ZiyZwX8gjJ	Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxx1	Feb 17 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| HP adds scale to open-source R in latest big data platform \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for	Feb 17 21:43
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/kFDQCDIjes	Feb 17 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 21:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for Linux \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings	Feb 17 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa	Feb 17 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/c5BSxsP8Gc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqy2k	Feb 17 21:44
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schestowitz	MinceR: https://twitter.com/TelegraphNews/status/567805786388242432	Feb 17 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TelegraphNews: Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban http://t.co/LSttpXUoku http://t.co/AgKy6Z5teo		Feb 17 22:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TelegraphNews: Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban http://t.co/LSttpXUoku http://t.co/AgKy6Z5teo		Feb 17 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the	Feb 17 22:39
TweetTuxMachines	Philippines in April 2015	Feb 17 22:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/uuI8lfGGsE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 22:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqygk	Feb 17 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the Philippines in April 2015 \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 22:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.1 Lollipop Hitting Nexus Devices Soon	Feb 17 22:39
TweetTuxMachines	Ahead of Motorola’s Smartphones!	Feb 17 22:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hsbSOAv9kt (masterherald.com)	Feb 17 22:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqygl	Feb 17 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-masterherald.com \| Android 5.1 Lollipop Hitting Nexus Devices Soon Ahead of Motorola’s Smartphones! \| Master Herald		Feb 17 22:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hey, Samsung, LG And HTC—Shunning Android Wear	Feb 17 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	Is A Huge Mistake http://t.co/XY8dZENU0j	Feb 17 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	(readwrite.com)	Feb 17 22:47
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyid	Feb 17 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The four best lock screens for your Android	Feb 17 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	phone http://t.co/wWS4nUPqfw	Feb 17 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.greenbot.com)	Feb 17 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com \| The four best lock screens for your Android phone \| Greenbot		Feb 17 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyif	Feb 17 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Any app that works with Android Wear now works	Feb 17 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	on your Pebble http://t.co/kUFpFD63TA	Feb 17 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.engadget.com)	Feb 17 22:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com \| Any app that works with Android Wear now works on your Pebble		Feb 17 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 17 22:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AAcuF67xen (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 17 22:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2 \| ZDNet		Feb 17 22:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7D7BS444nb (www.linux.com) "been	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	using Linux as my only OS since 2005"	Feb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqykr	Feb 17 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015 \| Linux.com		Feb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews	Feb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	TripleO http://t.co/ZYkRGD1XKU (www.eweek.com)	Feb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyks	Feb 17 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inspired by Linux, Pivotal to open-source bulk	Feb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	of big data suite http://t.co/jj8GLfHasF	Feb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Feb 17 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Inspired by Linux, Pivotal to open-source bulk of big data suite • The Register		Feb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyku	Feb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for	Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/EJG71ib5GY	Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) alas, proprietary	Feb 17 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for Linux - Softpedia		Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqymx	Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app	Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1Rw5YWlmiL (blogs.gnome.org)	Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqymy	Feb 17 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2015/02/17/first-fully-sandboxed-linux-desktop-app/ )		Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the	Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	Philippines in April 2015	Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CetLcfPA6V (www.tizenexperts.com)	Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	Android growing there too	Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Iot161U6bm (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqymz	Feb 17 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the Philippines in April 2015 - Tizen Experts		Feb 17 23:02
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660	Feb 18 00:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/		Feb 18 00:11
schestowitz	"#openhardware #FTW"	Feb 18 00:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/jqw71 ]		Feb 18 00:11
schestowitz	"This is why the Librem laptop I thought was a huge deal, it's creating the first real demand (with $) for Intel to open up the firmware code of their latest chips. That's a huge deal, as open firmware-wise on laptops we're stuck in the freaking Core Duo days right now."	Feb 18 00:11
schestowitz	Anything with Intel in it is already freedom-hostile by design :-)	Feb 18 00:12
cubexyz	librem is too expensive	Feb 18 00:14
cubexyz	but maybe the price will go down over time	Feb 18 00:15
cubexyz	Lemote had a Chinese debian-based distro called RAYS	Feb 18 00:20
cubexyz	so Lemote should work with Debian	Feb 18 00:20
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614884	Feb 18 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Need #Syriza in #Illinois http://www.thenation.com/article/198073/we-need-syriza-illinois "millionaire governor decrees austerity" #classwar #looting		Feb 18 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenation.com \| We Need Syriza in Illinois \| The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/jqz5d ]		Feb 18 00:23
schestowitz	"If austerity is so good then the US can have some."	Feb 18 00:23
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5613031	Feb 18 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wars can be construed as "creating jobs". Think of all the stuff that needs to be rebuilt. The "job creator" myth exploits mass ignorance.		Feb 18 00:23
schestowitz	"That sounds great! Let's create jobs in the US, I have heard there is high unemployment there."	Feb 18 00:23
MinceR	no, they should work with a distro that cares	Feb 18 00:25
MinceR	debian is not such a distro	Feb 18 00:25
cubexyz	the corebot devs want intel to drop verified boot in future	Feb 18 00:25
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cubexyz	there's a few distros which are based on debian wheezy that should be completely fine	Feb 18 00:27
cubexyz	wheezy supports amd64, armel, i386, ia64, mips, even s390 :)	Feb 18 00:28
cubexyz	and no systemd	Feb 18 00:28
cubexyz	at least antix doesn't use systemd	Feb 18 00:29
MinceR	gentoo still supports openrc	Feb 18 00:30
MinceR	slackware still doesn't use cancerd	Feb 18 00:30
cubexyz	indeed, one of the reasons I use vector linux, based on slackware	Feb 18 00:31
cubexyz	I'm still not sure what the deal is with Debian to be honest	Feb 18 00:32
MinceR	they jumped the shark	Feb 18 00:33
cubexyz	it seems very unlikely the IBM folks would use systemd	Feb 18 00:35
MinceR	i'm not sure if there are any IBM folks around	Feb 18 00:35
MinceR	they seem to have sold all the divisions that matter	Feb 18 00:35
cubexyz	well, I only mention that because debian has an s390 version	Feb 18 00:35
MinceR	they still have Rational making and selling atrocious crap	Feb 18 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings	Feb 18 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa	Feb 18 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rXgIxczoer (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqz84	Feb 18 00:35
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MinceR	and a few clueless suits cozying up with crApple	Feb 18 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/0cRfBfKwIF	Feb 18 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqz85	Feb 18 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hostkey rotation, redux http://t.co/Gutdvi5eD7	Feb 18 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqz86	Feb 18 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hostkey rotation, redux \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 00:36
cubexyz	AntiX is based on wheezy, but it's sysvinit	Feb 18 00:38
cubexyz	so it seems that the default for wheezy is no systemd	Feb 18 00:39
cubexyz	Jessie, the immediate successor to Wheezy, defaults to systemd	Feb 18 00:40
cubexyz	if you want the old sysvinit you can still have it, but it's not the default	Feb 18 00:40
cubexyz	you might still have chunks of systemd in there though	Feb 18 00:41
MinceR	wheezy already has some systemd contamination in the form of libsystemd-daemon0 and libsystemd-login0	Feb 18 00:42
MinceR	but at least doesn't force systemd as pid1	Feb 18 00:42
cubexyz	I think you can just: apt-get remove libsystemd-login	Feb 18 00:44
cubexyz	I'll check on antix for libsystemd	Feb 18 00:44
cubexyz	I don't remember seeing it, but I'm not 100% sure	Feb 18 00:44
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cubexyz	yes, systemd is there but it's not being used by icewm	Feb 18 00:57
cubexyz	more research is needed	Feb 18 00:57
cubexyz	"apt-get remove systemd"	Feb 18 00:58
cubexyz	ok, trying that now	Feb 18 00:58
cubexyz	success	Feb 18 01:05
cubexyz	there's still a few bits of libsystemd stuff in here, but systemd wasn't necessary for anything I was running	Feb 18 01:05
cubexyz	one of the other window managers might need systemd for something, but not icewm	Feb 18 01:07
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Feb 18 01:46
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Feb 18 01:46
DaemonFC	Bill Hicks on Dan Quayle (who has his "vice presidential museum" here in Huntington).	Feb 18 01:46
DaemonFC	"Little Quayle Boy...Little Damian. Is that guy Damian? Tell me those blank empty eyes aren't gonna glow red in the near future. 'Stop making jokes about meeeeee! (makes Satanic snorting/growling noise) I'll spell potato any fucking way I want! (snorting, growling) Rioters in LA - Let's nuke 'em! Bush was a pussy! (snorting, growling) He held me back!"	Feb 18 01:46
DaemonFC	LMAO! Still funny after all these years. Must be because of all the hero worship of the one-term do nothing knucklehead that still goes on in Huntington. What a fucking waste of a town. These people are scum. If you ask me, the worst thing about meth....is that it doesn't kill 'em fast enough. I'm serious.	Feb 18 01:46
DaemonFC	Anyone...who does that to themselves.... I don't think we lost anything. You know? "Duh! Let's smoke crystal meth! Let's fry our brain and die in six months because we live in a town that could easily be mistaken for one of Satan's anal warts! Woohoo!"	Feb 18 01:48
MinceR	gn	Feb 18 02:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why should you consider using a Linux-based	Feb 18 02:20
TweetTuxMachines	system for music making? http://t.co/WnedxbYMLJ	Feb 18 02:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.musicradar.com)	Feb 18 02:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.musicradar.com \| Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? \| Bitwig Studio \| Tech News \| MusicRadar		Feb 18 02:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 17/2/2015: TripleO, Pivotal	Feb 18 02:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2pZIUruZKJ (techrights.org)	Feb 18 02:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqzul	Feb 18 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 17/2/2015: TripleO, Pivotal \| Techrights		Feb 18 02:21
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615391	Feb 18 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/why-should-you-consider-using-a-linux-based-system-for-music-making-616276/		Feb 18 08:56
schestowitz	"I LOVE LMMS."	Feb 18 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why should you consider using a Linux-based	Feb 18 08:59
TweetTuxMachines	system for music making? http://t.co/yIbtdqwe8E	Feb 18 08:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 08:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 08:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On Steam	Feb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GvhzxZkoEb (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr25t	Feb 18 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| 2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On Steam \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kodi 14.2 Beta 1 Finally Fixes the Scanning of	Feb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines	Newly Added Episodes and More	Feb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7Uf3E6Yhj2 (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr25u	Feb 18 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Kodi 14.2 Beta 1 Finally Fixes the Scanning of Newly Added Episodes and More - Softpedia		Feb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenMorrowind Is an Ambitious Remake of The	Feb 18 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind for Linux	Feb 18 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/d0F50fQzEc (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 09:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Pebble Became The Cheapest Android	Feb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	Smartwatch Around http://t.co/nokV3W1uMG	Feb 18 09:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Android-Based Messaging Apps for	Feb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	Enterprises http://t.co/ns8KftLagp	Feb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.junauza.com)	Feb 18 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.junauza.com \| Best Android-Based Messaging Apps for Enterprises \| TechSource		Feb 18 09:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "The KDE 5_15.02 increment contains the KDE	Feb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	Frameworks 5.7.0, Plasma 5.2.0 and Applications	Feb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	14.12.2." http://t.co/8j7dGkouhR	Feb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	(alien.slackbook.org)	Feb 18 09:46
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615018	Feb 18 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open Source Enters The Classroom http://talkincloud.com/cloud-computing/02172015/open-source-enters-classroom #education #freesw		Feb 18 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> talkincloud.com \| Open Source Enters The Classroom \| Cloud Computing content from Talkin' Cloud [ http://ur1.ca/jr2l5 ]		Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz	The author assumes the role of schooling is to prepare students to "enter the workforce" and that they "must ensure they teach students the skills that businesses want".	Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz	As an IT teacher, I think that's total bullshit. I have refused to teach proprietary software in my classes since 2001. I don't see my school as a training center.	Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz	For private businesses at taxpayers' expense	Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5607175	Feb 18 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #Systemd from #Debian (and still running a desktop) http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/		Feb 18 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lkcl.net \| Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]		Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz	"Today I do not feel like warring about systemd. =)"	Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz	"So.... which one's better? Emacs or Vi?"	Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz	nano	Feb 18 10:03
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615220	Feb 18 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #systemd https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html "notice the "responses" from the systemd crowd" -iophk		Feb 18 10:03
schestowitz	"Challenging people's religion."	Feb 18 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lists.debian.org \| Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jr2le ]		Feb 18 10:03
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611917	Feb 18 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Retroactively shielding E-mail from #surveillance is not possible. The #uk has had (for many years) US bases that harvest, retain all mail.		Feb 18 10:03
schestowitz	"sure, you only eliminate your own access or delete your own copy."	Feb 18 10:03
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660	Feb 18 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/		Feb 18 10:04
schestowitz	";-) that's why they have got this special logo - to surround and thereby highlite the problem... :-/ "	Feb 18 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/jqw71 ]		Feb 18 10:04
schestowitz	Smoking kills	Feb 18 10:04
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611853	Feb 18 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Learning from #redhat (and Fedora) staff that Red hat pushes patches from #nsa directly into #linux using redhatcom addresses was shocking.		Feb 18 10:04
schestowitz	"Playing cover for NSA? That is shocking. Your contact should go to Wikileaks with the evidence. If true, it's a betrayal to the whole free software community."	Feb 18 10:04
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 10:05
schestowitz	I would venture a guess that in most of the world outside of the US, the NSA is seen as a completely out of control orwellian nightmare, but as I said, at least the code is open source, documented, versioned and can be traced back to original authors, meaning it's a single-opportunity game: you can try to break the rules, but if we catch you just once, either because of code review or because a customer noticed spyware-like behaviour	Feb 18 10:05
schestowitz	when policing his network traffic, you're out forever.	Feb 18 10:05
schestowitz	We use AES, for example, under the same terms/circumstances.	Feb 18 10:05
schestowitz	There are much more worrying things like special spyware electronics on hard drives, motherboards and CPUs that aren't as easy to detect or weed out, like UEFI etc.	Feb 18 10:05
schestowitz	Choose what you worry about carefully: there's a lot more to worry about that there is worry to go around. ;)	Feb 18 10:05
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 10:05
schestowitz	Critical flaws do get found, even in FOSS. We need to check where they come from and why.	Feb 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Nvidia's Android-powered Shield tablet	Feb 18 10:08
TweetTuxMachines	is actually great for gaming	Feb 18 10:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rRyUCG4Raa (www.networkworld.com)	Feb 18 10:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Review: Nvidia's Android-powered Shield tablet is great for gaming		Feb 18 10:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KF5 Porting Progress https://t.co/BmdRKFXy73	Feb 18 10:08
TweetTuxMachines	(kdepepo.wordpress.com)	Feb 18 10:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdepepo.wordpress.com \| KF5 Porting Progress \| Keeping Computing Personal		Feb 18 10:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.20 To Land VirtIO 1.0 Implementation	Feb 18 10:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZnoMxThclD (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 18 10:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Enea Linux and System Management on the	Feb 18 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	ARMv8-Based AMD Embedded R-Series Processor	Feb 18 10:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1Zl7bq8XAg (www.businesswire.com)	Feb 18 10:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE –	Feb 18 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	report http://t.co/azRXO0NsaM	Feb 18 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Feb 18 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE – report • The Register		Feb 18 10:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCompris Complex App Ported to Ubuntu for	Feb 18 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	Phones http://t.co/3NWfeolcFQ	Feb 18 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 10:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Humble Weekly Bundle: For Lovers Is a Bizarre	Feb 18 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	Mix of Japanese Games and Real Pillowcases	Feb 18 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0iennIEHei (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 11:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland	Feb 18 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	Support http://t.co/6PN3eqUhJ3	Feb 18 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 18 11:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland Support - Phoronix		Feb 18 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20	Feb 18 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel http://t.co/yqRFol5PSF	Feb 18 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 18 11:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Mark Shuttleworth clearly feels that what	Feb 18 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	consumers and developers need, they will in	Feb 18 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	time learn to want." http://t.co/OCu0Ot4ySw	Feb 18 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techcentral.co.za)	Feb 18 11:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techcentral.co.za \| Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite? \| TechCentral		Feb 18 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu's foray into phones brings a fresh	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	approach, but will consumers take to it?	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)	Feb 18 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu's foray into phones brings a fresh	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	approach, but will consumers take to it?	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)	Feb 18 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NGINX: The secret heart of the modern web	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/THyZ0mpHrK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| NGINX: The secret heart of the modern web \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	Soon http://t.co/mV5oqJqZGM	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very Soon \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	Support http://t.co/7N4A2tAFSs	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland Support \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel http://t.co/DSZFktQArX	Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20 Kernel \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite?	Feb 18 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OGLRr3MgZo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 11:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20	Feb 18 14:15
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Kernel http://t.co/DSZFktQArX	Feb 18 14:15
TweetTuxMachines	@miniputing (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 14:15
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Sosumi	http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_edge_tops_geekbench_results-news-11239.php	Feb 18 15:01
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Sosumi	that new exymos powered S6 really promises	Feb 18 15:01
Sosumi	I just hope battery life is good	Feb 18 15:02
Sosumi	and that samsung isn't cheating benchmarks	Feb 18 15:02
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MinceR	http://www.cracked.com/article_22028_3-realities-life-as-gamer-in-modern-dictatorship.html	Feb 18 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com \| 3 Shocking Things You Realize as a Gamer in a Dictatorship \| Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/jr54d ]		Feb 18 17:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions	Feb 18 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TCNulVKWFp (www.oregonlive.com)	Feb 18 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	adding antifeatures not good. LOCs not a good	Feb 18 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oregonlive.com \| Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions \| OregonLive.com		Feb 18 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	yardstick.	Feb 18 17:56
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614232	Feb 18 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/17/cia-controlling-climate-geoengineering-climate-change #climate #warfare		Feb 18 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry \| Alan Robock \| Comment is free \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jr5j7 ]		Feb 18 18:23
schestowitz	"#WTF - The only thing I heard about this is NASA and Terraforming a planet."	Feb 18 18:23
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/568114361983569921	Feb 18 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Obvious concept & suspicion...but Case-in-Point, please.		Feb 18 18:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very	Feb 18 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	Soon http://t.co/wlMpiKuDqj	Feb 18 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 18:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very Soon - Softpedia		Feb 18 18:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions	Feb 18 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/h1tT8XnNOZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 18:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 ways to get involved with Humanitarian FOSS	Feb 18 18:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZKF5DcdONL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 18:58
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568132157824212992 https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568146863171497984 https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568147223625764864	Feb 18 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: 1st day at work fail RT @schestowitz: "Which moron wrote this brainless sh*t?" Martin Eller, Microsoft programmer about Bill Gates' own code		Feb 18 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz : )) I am sure he didn't! Otherwise I doubt he would have the guts to say so!		Feb 18 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz Funny incident anyways & a reminder that is better to ask before criticizing... ; )		Feb 18 20:39
cubexyz	Eller is an old old microsoftie	Feb 18 20:52
cubexyz	a pity the way things went... Unix should have won	Feb 18 20:53
cubexyz	it kind of did... but it kind of didn't	Feb 18 20:53
cubexyz	Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, funded (of course) by Microsoft	Feb 18 20:59
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cubexyz	btw Eller did say that.. read "Barbarians Led by Bill Gates" written by Edstrom and Eller himself	Feb 18 21:12
cubexyz	so technically we had an encumbered Western Electric License for Universities for Unix v5/v6 in 1975	Feb 18 21:15
cubexyz	two 9 track 800 bpi magnetic tapes, containing the binary code of Unix, plus source code, user manual, programmer's manual, c reference manual, unix assembler reference manual	Feb 18 21:16
cubexyz	so you could look at the source, play around with it, write programs on a PDP-11	Feb 18 21:17
cubexyz	but you technically could not share code with other people	Feb 18 21:18
cubexyz	a giant missed opportunity... Unix is closed off for a number of years, Microsoft rises up and a dark ages of computing occurs, probably until 2002 or so	Feb 18 21:19
cubexyz	no gcc until 1987	Feb 18 21:20
cubexyz	and I definitely remember hearing about it back then, but it was mostly the closed source era back then	Feb 18 21:21
cubexyz	so yeah, 25 year botch up in the operating system space	Feb 18 21:22
cubexyz	ACK, the original compiler for Minix, also closed source at the time	Feb 18 21:24
cubexyz	so yes, GNU gcc was a huge step forward	Feb 18 21:24
cubexyz	386 chip was released in 1985, so we _could_ have had a FOSS operating system in the 80's	Feb 18 21:29
cubexyz	but what did we actually get? Xenix for $$$ and your c compiler probably cost at least $200	Feb 18 21:31
cubexyz	that was in the late 80s	Feb 18 21:31
cubexyz	I suppose if you were rich you could have had Unix on a PDP-11/45 in the 1970s with all the source code for everything	Feb 18 21:32
cubexyz	but no community, not outside of Bell Labs	Feb 18 21:32
schestowitz	barcelona football team is here on tuesday to play man city, so you might wanna watch it. I'll be flying to germany when the game kicks off.	Feb 18 22:05
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5619788	Feb 18 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There is something #disturbing about #intel portraying itself as top FOSS player for merely giving self-serving patches to hardware-tied SW.		Feb 18 22:06
schestowitz	"Welcome to most contributions to the Linux kernel? That's par for the course."	Feb 18 22:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015]	Feb 18 22:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6EoBnPSI76 (www.linuxveda.com)	Feb 18 22:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr6ye	Feb 18 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!		Feb 18 22:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People	Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/hPaYf6sXIY	Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr73g	Feb 18 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People Ubuntu Basics \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,	Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/8I2GUhPbgJ	Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr73i	Feb 18 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19, Starting 9 AM CET \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving	Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	car project http://t.co/yShLsFMV2Z	Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr73k	Feb 18 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving car project \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly	Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation	Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iIv90tuQ3i (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr78h	Feb 18 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora Comes Bursting With Extras	Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0UeFeni7yY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr78k	Feb 18 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Korora Comes Bursting With Extras \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle"	Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	in its history." http://t.co/6bMwhUDLmF	Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	(arstechnica.com)	Feb 18 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Linux has 2,000 new developers and gets 10,000 patches for each version \| Ars Technica		Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr78l	Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0?	Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CoLrEn6A6c (linuxgizmos.com) looks	Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	likely at this stage	Feb 18 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0? · LinuxGizmos.com		Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr78p	Feb 18 23:04
*TweetTuxMachines @gagalago favourited 'Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0? http://t.co/CoLrEn6A6c...'		Feb 18 23:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161604912746496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161869967568896 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568162070753099776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163197301202945	Feb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Killing in Washington State Offers ‘Ferguson’ Moment for Hispanics http://t.co/jB7ZIUc8dw highly disproportionate use of force by #police		Feb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times		Feb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Asymmetric warfare methods used by US military are now being pointed inwards, allowing #us #police to do more or less the same to USians		Feb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Finally, and most obviously, you have to start by building trust, which will necessarily require a transition" https://t.co/HA5ZKjVYc7		Feb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/02/17/the-secret-squirrels-pitching-countering-violent-extremism/ )		Feb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is Microsoft now providing journalists handouts to spread the lie that Microsoft loves Linux, OSS, etc.? It smacks of that.		Feb 18 23:08
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lightweight/status/568159923676127233 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163670041223168 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568172713157783552 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568173213534068736 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183180387323905	Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: If any of this is true, it shows that the Microsoft we know and don't love hasn't changed its stripes. http://t.co/AgoS83PHh9		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Microsoft Reportedly Uses Patent Blackmail Against Android to Force Samsung to Spread Microsoft Spyware (Incorporated Into Android) (Updated) \| Techrights		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #gigaom which was paid by #microsoft for secret ads continues to openwash the company. Om Malik, how much does #Nadella bribe you now?		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015] http://t.co/VTAPM7r2t1 very detailed		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com \| How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #linux fosters cooperation between companies http://t.co/uO6eTcWLbO http://t.co/bUhAr10bgh http://t.co/GgvUop8qVp		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com \| Linux Kernel Report: More Contributors Than Ever \| Linux.com		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com \| Who's writing Linux today? Capitalists \| ZDNet		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com \| More than 80% of Linux kernel development is paid by companies! - Linux Veda		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Those in Power learned from experience that (bar framing) by attacking those who publish documents & obey law they just legitimise them more		Feb 18 23:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183713554669568 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183976701140993 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568184152194981888	Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics http://t.co/IBvnFXCSn9 #freesw #hp		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.informationweek.com \| HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics - InformationWeek		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle" in its history." http://t.co/3sAFzLWSUs #kernel #linux		Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is #Linux heading toward the big 4.0? http://t.co/KdmSvPta3T looks likely at this stage		Feb 18 23:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/568185111201492993	Feb 18 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz @DefTechPat even worse, it sounds like they just don't care, if a hardcoded password saves them maintenance costs. 😣		Feb 18 23:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,	Feb 18 23:19
TweetTuxMachines	Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/1rA3igF9ln	Feb 18 23:19
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com) http://t.co/vSGZFVWsys	Feb 18 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19, Starting 9 AM CET - Softpedia		Feb 18 23:19
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxg.net)	Feb 18 23:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7cc	Feb 18 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| The Next BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Flash Sale Starts Tomorrow At 9 AM CET \| LinuxG.net		Feb 18 23:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People	Feb 18 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/UnpMbJSvqs	Feb 18 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7cy	Feb 18 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People Ubuntu Basics - Softpedia		Feb 18 23:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold	Feb 18 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	Member http://t.co/3Z7M3EnScu	Feb 18 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxveda.com) Wall Street betting on	Feb 18 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux Veda		Feb 18 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	linux as the future	Feb 18 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7cz	Feb 18 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows up	Feb 18 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Q6CJLVC8QY (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 18 23:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7d0	Feb 18 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows up \| ZDNet		Feb 18 23:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving	Feb 18 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	car project http://t.co/5GfvJ7eSOD	Feb 18 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Feb 18 23:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving car project · LinuxGizmos.com		Feb 18 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7dj	Feb 18 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora Comes Bursting With Extras	Feb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1TVJNtWYyP (www.linuxinsider.com)	Feb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7fh	Feb 18 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| Korora Comes Bursting With Extras \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Feb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly	Feb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation	Feb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sJf9BLbyUS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7fi	Feb 18 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Should Linux distro developers expect to be	Feb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	paid for their work? http://t.co/qzvYt5I2Sg	Feb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	(jimlynch.com) what elementaryos does is fine,	Feb 18 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com \| Should Linux distro developers expect to be paid for their work? \| Jim Lynch		Feb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	working was poor	Feb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7fk	Feb 18 23:31
msb	cubexyz: I remember a lot of C code being broadcast on Usenet, I think in the 1980s, and archived on Simtel20 at White Sands AFB (I think).	Feb 19 00:00
msb	cubexyz: It was for Unix.	Feb 19 00:00
cubexyz	yes simtel20 which originally ran on TOPS-20, but now defunct	Feb 19 00:08
cubexyz	it's on http://archive.org	Feb 19 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org \| Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine		Feb 19 00:09
cubexyz	but archive.org is down at the moment	Feb 19 00:09
cubexyz	lots of unix v5 era code was lost	Feb 19 00:17
cubexyz	I've tried to find some for the last 4 years	Feb 19 00:17
msb	I think this open-source code was developed and used by Unix users in universities -- an early Unix community.	Feb 19 00:18
cubexyz	there's some usenix tapes	Feb 19 00:19
msb	cubexyz: Isn't there an alternate archive.org in South America somewhere?	Feb 19 00:20
cubexyz	msb, you have a URL for that?	Feb 19 00:22
msb	cubexyz: I'm looking for one.	Feb 19 00:22
msb	The wiki article on archive.org says it has a backup in Bibliotheca Alexandrina in Egypt. Maybe that's it.	Feb 19 00:24
msb	archive.bibalex.org	Feb 19 00:25
cubexyz	ok, archive.org is back now :)	Feb 19 00:28
msb	this is the ancient one -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria -- destroyed at various times by Romans and Christians.	Feb 19 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jr7u2 ]		Feb 19 00:31
msb	Mentioned in _Cosmos_ by Carl Sagan.	Feb 19 00:31
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DaemonFC	https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10994477_316268991916472_5836528684371541498_n.jpg?oh=be82b3ad750bad1a69a557ae42046822&oe=554B5E31&__gda__=1435272888_4eed01fe71a0008ac746b511b7b843ca	Feb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is Better	Feb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/dTFeOH2JJc (www.gottabemobile.com)	Feb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7un	Feb 19 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com \| Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is Better		Feb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date	Feb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pBpDp9U8q7 (www.maximumpc.com)	Feb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7uo	Feb 19 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maximumpc.com \| Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date \| Maximum PC		Feb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the	Feb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines	Skies http://t.co/WyFbLWkSK8 (www.linux.com)	Feb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7uq	Feb 19 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies \| Linux.com		Feb 19 00:33
cubexyz	destroyed at various times? Destroyed more than once?	Feb 19 00:33
msb	cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#Destruction	Feb 19 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/g49b6 ]		Feb 19 00:34
msb	various parts and sets of books.	Feb 19 00:34
msb	Moslems finished the job in 642, because the remaining books weren't the Koran.	Feb 19 00:35
msb	JCI religion is the scourge of mankind.	Feb 19 00:36
MinceR	> religion is the scourge of mankind.	Feb 19 00:36
MinceR	FTFY	Feb 19 00:36
cubexyz	I'll settle for some Unix v5 source code	Feb 19 00:36
msb	No -- Wicca is beneficial.	Feb 19 00:36
cubexyz	Unix version 1 was almost lost, part of it was	Feb 19 00:37
cubexyz	the only reason why we have part of it is that there was a book that had the source code listings	Feb 19 00:38
cubexyz	magtape isn't too great for long-term storage	Feb 19 00:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date	Feb 19 00:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gpPoAimhph (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 00:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7ws	Feb 19 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 00:42
msb	Poettering: "Just the other day, some idiot posted a "song" on youtube, a creepy work, filled with expletives about me and suggestions of violence."	Feb 19 00:58
msb	I can't find it. Anybody have it?	Feb 19 00:59
MinceR	never heard of it	Feb 19 00:59
msb	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0aTqsl-vfU	Feb 19 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Systemd Blues: Took our thing (Wooo) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jr83c ]		Feb 19 01:12
msb	"You took our thing and now we ain't got it no more"	Feb 19 01:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Systemd Gets An Fsck Daemon/Service	Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/n8NFPxFYvr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr88b	Feb 19 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Systemd Gets An Fsck Daemon/Service \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the	Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	Skies http://t.co/2SI1cUhEF5	Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr88c	Feb 19 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects	Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	Google's Material Design http://t.co/Z12CqR8vLe	Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects Google's Material Design - Softpedia		Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr88d	Feb 19 01:32
MinceR	gn	Feb 19 01:49
*TweetTuxMachines @ingrleo followed @tuxmachines		Feb 19 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 18/2/2015: Linux Report, FlightGear 3.4	Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7depUCZN4J (techrights.org)	Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr8dx	Feb 19 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 18/2/2015: Linux Report, FlightGear 3.4 \| Techrights		Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects	Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	Google's Material Design http://t.co/VLdtbhhwjm	Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr8dy	Feb 19 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects Google's Material Design \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/vp2QXHfsA6	Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr8dz	Feb 19 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/hMJz5f5AIr	Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr8e0	Feb 19 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/hxwRwJGRRN	Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr8e1	Feb 19 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 01:57
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2CJT4UEKKJRK	Feb 19 03:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The State of Wisconsin had its budget trashed by Governor Scott Walker to the point that it will have to default now. [ http://ur1.ca/jr94j ]		Feb 19 03:57
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msb	It's just a simple business deal. Rich people give the politicians money, and the pols lower their taxes. Nobody else matters.	Feb 19 04:10
msb	But it's important to remember that Democrat politicians often do similar things to serve the rich, e.g., attacking Palestine, Serbia, Libya, Ukraine, Venezuela.	Feb 19 04:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/My9JY4FG68	Feb 19 04:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 04:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr998	Feb 19 04:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 04:16
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621836	Feb 19 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Over time fewer people grasp that Russia lost around x20 more than US in WW2 (people), US came very late to claim landslide victory		Feb 19 08:15
schestowitz__	"After having spent considerable time playing both sides of the fence until it was no longer fashionable, and then "winning" by being the only "peaceful" nation to use nuclear weapons."	Feb 19 08:15
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621898	Feb 19 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To portray #intel as company that deserves credit for #linux rise is misleading. Linux was rising, Intel co-opts it. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel		Feb 19 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Intel - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/jraln ]		Feb 19 08:16
schestowitz__	"Well at least they are participating!"	Feb 19 08:16
schestowitz__	"Microsoft participates too! :)'	Feb 19 08:16
schestowitz__	The "new Microsoft"	Feb 19 08:16
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621993	Feb 19 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/810883-dronecode-taking-the-internet-to-the-skies/ #dronecode #linux #freesw		Feb 19 08:17
schestowitz__	" "What we essentially did was weaponize Lego with my children around the dining room table," Anderson said."	Feb 19 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com \| Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies \| Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/jralx ]		Feb 19 08:17
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622092	Feb 19 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nike is now patenting software http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/fashion/nike-patents-augmented-reality-shoe-design-system-article-1.2118548 #swpats from an evil company (lots of abuses)		Feb 19 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nydailynews.com \| Nike patents augmented reality shoe design software - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/jram5 ]		Feb 19 08:18
schestowitz__	"I wonder how this will affect what is happening in the world of Doc M's"	Feb 19 08:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux Kernel	Feb 19 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	Report http://t.co/DJfY77ndNS (www.linux.com)	Feb 19 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb5k	Feb 19 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux Kernel Report \| Linux.com		Feb 19 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The 8 best desktop environments for Linux	Feb 19 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/R7bmoBNsLM (www.itworld.com)	Feb 19 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb5l	Feb 19 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com \| The 8 best desktop environments for Linux \| ITworld		Feb 19 10:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition	Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	Phone Starts in Less than an Hour	Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7OHcrbAARm (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb94	Feb 19 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Phone Starts in Less than an Hour - Update - Softpedia		Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release Adds	Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy Fixes	Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/93TvEbga5n (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb95	Feb 19 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release Adds Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy Fixes - Softpedia		Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default Document	Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	Viewer App, Released http://t.co/kN49e0kqK6	Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb96	Feb 19 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default Document Viewer App, Released - Softpedia		Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appears	Feb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	– but we have no idea what’s in store	Feb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Z0547Imsoa (bgr.com)	Feb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrba3	Feb 19 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appears – but we have no idea what’s in store \| BGR		Feb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Decrypt Android Wear with these 16 essential	Feb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	tips and tricks http://t.co/z65UPQUmDL	Feb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com)	Feb 19 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| 16 Essential Android Wear Tips and Tricks \| Digital Trends		Feb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrba4	Feb 19 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition...'		Feb 19 10:20
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*TweetTuxMachines @AlterNet_io favourited 'Decrypt Android Wear with these 16 essential tips...'		Feb 19 10:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel build times for automated builders	Feb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Dp1z1KFsfT (www.sirena.org.uk) an	Feb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	interesting comparison for linux	Feb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdf	Feb 19 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sirena.org.uk \| Kernel build times for automated builders < Technicalities		Feb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First Person	Feb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	Horror Will Support Linux	Feb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/peUmqHgQOR (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdg	Feb 19 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First Person Horror Will Support Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements for	Feb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	Windows Management and More	Feb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/E2mSk5oVLE (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdh	Feb 19 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements for Windows Management and More - Softpedia		Feb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance and	Feb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	Battery Life	Feb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zJJd6Gl2Hk (www.techspot.com)	Feb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdi	Feb 19 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techspot.com \| Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance and Battery Life - TechSpot		Feb 19 10:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621937	Feb 19 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be infeasible for the #cia to drive around sceptical nations with cameras, photographing everything and harvesting MAC addresses.		Feb 19 10:54
schestowitz	"Google cars were fined in France for sniffing WiFi years ago"	Feb 19 10:54
schestowitz	maybe after the data collected had been copied via PRISM to entities that cannot be fined or have their data erased	Feb 19 10:55
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622064	Feb 19 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "You can see propaganda being manufactured before your eyes" http://fair.org/blog/2015/02/18/most-americans-agree-that-netanyahu-the-only-one-who-can-save-the-puppy-should-save-the-puppy/ #zionism in #bloomberg		Feb 19 11:06
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 11:06
schestowitz	A CNN/ORC poll suggests that a large majority opposes the invitation. Further, according to the poll, support for Israel is dwindling.	Feb 19 11:06
schestowitz	http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/17/politics/poll-netanyahu-speech-opposition/	Feb 19 11:06
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 11:06
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621007	Feb 19 11:07
schestowitz	"Fake fight, fake narrative, to roll-out (announce) 1984. I need Google (what a fun name; maybe they should spell it with goofy fonts and lots of colors...)... I need Google to look after my privacy, and other rights, like a ho needs a pimp's protection and bookkeeping services."	Feb 19 11:07
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621071	Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fair.org \| Most Americans Agree That Netanyahu, the Only One Who Can Save the Puppy, Should Save the Puppy [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjx ]		Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnn.com \| CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjy ]		Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/google-calls-fbi-s-plan-to-expand-hacking-power-a-monumental-constitutional-threat-20150218 painting self as "resistor"		Feb 19 11:07
schestowitz	"Holder is a pig."	Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nationaljournal.com \| Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat - NationalJournal.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjz ]		Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ericholder a hypocrite that carries water for Power http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/17/eric-holder-death-penalty_n_6701062.html he doesn't really care about innocents. #drones #risen		Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com \| Eric Holder: Moratorium On Death Penalty 'Would Be Appropriate' Pending Supreme Court Decision [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk0 ]		Feb 19 11:07
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621753	Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/02/18/bloomberg-joins-linux-foundation-as-gold-member/ Wall Street betting on #linux as the future		Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com \| Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux Veda [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk3 ]		Feb 19 11:08
schestowitz	"Barf"	Feb 19 11:08
schestowitz	Indeed, but at least it helps Linux	Feb 19 11:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614505	Feb 19 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 3 white people planning mass murder in a mall and then shooting themselves not much different from suicide bombing. Canada says not terror.		Feb 19 11:08
schestowitz	"The media assumes gamers are misogynist terrorists, so I'm not surprised at that. Still doesn't mean we should extend the definition just so that anyone also could be "legitimately" be called terrorists."	Feb 19 11:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Beam's Android-powered projector fits in your	Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	light sockets http://t.co/iFmxYfzaHD	Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.engadget.com)	Feb 19 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com \| Beam's Android-powered projector fits in your light sockets		Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrblo	Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen Systems	Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	Might Get a Linux Version	Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rExpoDNUOy (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	nice graphics.	Feb 19 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen Systems Might Get a Linux Version - Softpedia		Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrblp	Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux kernel is the biggest collaborative	Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	software project on the planet"	Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aSFAlYmvZS (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrblq	Feb 19 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| The Linux Foundation Shows Us Just How Massive the Kernel Development Really Is - Softpedia		Feb 19 11:17
msb	Netanyahu speech: "it's not hard to get many people to respond the way you want to a loaded question" especially when they've been flooded with 60+ years of lying Zionist propaganda in all their newspapers and broadcast media.	Feb 19 12:10
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 12:21
schestowitz	Our first case deals with Mr. Rikard Frgacic.	Feb 19 12:21
schestowitz	We sent you some background stuff about this previously but here's a short recap.	Feb 19 12:21
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 12:21
MinceR	geekings	Feb 19 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese New	Feb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	Year http://t.co/D39b1hCbtW (techrights.org)	Feb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc3c	Feb 19 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese New Year \| Techrights		Feb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent	Feb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	increase http://t.co/6nVelQaIzo	Feb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc3e	Feb 19 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent increase \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/mKmM4yD0y2	Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5d	Feb 19 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/eamP4UbThA	Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5e	Feb 19 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/cXiLWGnfGa	Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5f	Feb 19 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19	Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	Very Soon http://t.co/VaYzfl4Fz8	Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5g	Feb 19 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19 Very Soon \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 13:04
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schestowitz	"We hope that the above comments will be of some assistance to you in evaluating any material that you get about these cases."	Feb 19 13:17
schestowitz	heh. I got a great article coming...	Feb 19 13:17
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schestowitz	"What can you tell the waiting public about the Microsoft associates on the board of the Linux Foundation"	Feb 19 15:25
schestowitz	"Are they on the Board?"	Feb 19 15:25
schestowitz	"I got this from Tech Rights which was a little unclear on the subject"	Feb 19 15:25
schestowitz	They are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worse	Feb 19 15:26
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/can-suepo-sue-epo-it-now-seems-so.html	Feb 19 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk \| The IPKat: Can SUEPO sue EPO? It now seems so ... [ http://ur1.ca/jrcym ]		Feb 19 15:26
schestowitz	" A translation of the decision will make very interesting reading, sending EPAs scurrying to read those parts of the Convention which they have in the past ignored. Does the Protocol Article 3(4) restrict the immunity only to those activities of the EPO "strictly necessary for its administrative and technical operation"? We shall see. Interesting reference to the Srebrenica decision as well."	Feb 19 15:26
schestowitz	" Yes,Merpel, your understanding of the document is correct. An appeal against this decision (to be lodged with the Hoge Raad) cannot result in the overturning of the finding of the Gerechtshof, unless a procedural violation has been committed by the latter. The Hoge Raad can only cassate a decision (beslissing) if the second instance did not apply the law correctly."	Feb 19 15:26
schestowitz	"This is a great day. "	Feb 19 15:26
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz	I think that's the begining of the end of Battistelli reign.	Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz	When it will explode, it will create a scandal bigger that the Edith Cresson scandal (another French) at the European Commission in 1999. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/1425715/Cresson-charged-four-years-after-European-Union-fraud-scandal.html).	Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz	Edith Cresson only appointed a friend (and it created a scandal).... Battistelli does 100 times worst.	Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk \| Cresson charged four years after European Union fraud scandal - Telegraph		Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz	As we read the various comments from the anonymice, keep in mind, dear Reader, that a comment that gives every appearance of coming from an EPO Examiner might in fact be disinformation coming from a crony of the President. And vice versa, of course.	Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz	Already there is stuff on the other thread that seems to come from SUEPO head-bangers. Does it really? I'm skeptical.	Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz	LOL	Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz	"They are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worse"	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	Other correspondants have confirmed this	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	here is a Fwd:-	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	"A quick surf shows they joined the Allseen Alliance, which is an IoT	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	group, which is managed by the LF.	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	I don't see them listed on the LF members page itself though - so they	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	may have joined an LF sub-group but not the LF as a whole (that is,	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	paying the LF membership etc.).	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	Graham "	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	yes, indeed	Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz	Don't forget OpenDaylight and Foundry	Feb 19 15:39
schestowitz	Neela and Ramji	Feb 19 15:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/568436956830380032	Feb 19 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz It's amazing that Microsoft still manages to dominate large hardware-oriented corporations. That indicates limited competition!		Feb 19 15:50
schestowitz	Some hardware companies like HP are stuffed to the rim (at exec level) with 'former' Microsoft execs	Feb 19 15:51
cubexyz	HP used to have their own minicomputers	Feb 19 15:57
cubexyz	HP-UX is still being updated	Feb 19 16:00
cubexyz	actually the 'old' HP was Unix friendly	Feb 19 16:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/johnmarker005/status/568439201655492608	Feb 19 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnmarker005: @schestowitz Kindly retweet this amazing Google-patent pending lock screen app:https://t.co/PHjzjXlPOP Video:https://t.co/qChtLcAZJ7		Feb 19 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> play.google.com \| App Locker with Guest Mode - Android Apps on Google Play		Feb 19 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com \| Smart Screen Plus Application Locker - Why do you need one - YouTube		Feb 19 16:02
cubexyz	HP used to support Redhat & SUSE and they had a Unix support program in Greeley Colorado	Feb 19 16:03
cubexyz	that was disbanded in August 1st, 2001	Feb 19 16:03
cubexyz	PCL (for printers) and SCL (for scanners) was completely supported in Unix/Linux	Feb 19 16:04
cubexyz	and guess what happened?	Feb 19 16:07
cubexyz	SCL was discontinued...	Feb 19 16:07
cubexyz	PCL 6 was optimized for windows	Feb 19 16:07
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cubexyz	I think PCL 6 is still supported by CUPS though	Feb 19 16:08
cubexyz	PCL 6 'enhanced' was designed to match the drawing model of Windows GDI	Feb 19 16:08
cubexyz	all this was foreshadowed in the Halloween Documents	Feb 19 16:09
cubexyz	so old Microsofties at HP exec level does not surprise me at all	Feb 19 16:11
cubexyz	also blame RealTek for some of this nonsense...	Feb 19 16:12
cubexyz	RTS8891 chip had no programming documentation, typical of post 2001 scanners	Feb 19 16:12
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cubexyz	on the other side of the coin Epson scanners all just work with Linux	Feb 19 16:15
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cubexyz	maybe the old Microsofties will kill off HP-UX	Feb 19 16:23
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cubexyz	here's an idea... why doesn't the FSF start making their own hardware :)	Feb 19 16:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/568450899665924096	Feb 19 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: Microsoft's Trojan horse strategy to rule the world http://t.co/je6nIlO3oI cc/@schestowitz #TheCloudIsTheAPI #FogComputing		Feb 19 16:45
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cubexyz	just don't give Microsoft any money	Feb 19 16:51
cubexyz	there's a simple rule :)	Feb 19 16:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/568454886230077440	Feb 19 17:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma Media Center at Plasma Sprint 2015	Feb 19 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/85sbn1MtcC (bhush9.github.io)	Feb 19 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	great writing style.	Feb 19 17:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent	Feb 19 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	increase http://t.co/Bfmc4BcE97	Feb 19 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.itproportal.com)	Feb 19 17:20
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-honestly-thought-youd-enjoy-that-superfish-https-spyware/	Feb 19 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Lenovo honestly thought you’d enjoy that Superfish HTTPS spyware \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jrdrl ]		Feb 19 17:25
Sosumi	lol	Feb 19 17:25
XFaCE	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptops	Feb 19 17:31
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cubexyz	well if you blank out the hard drive and install Linux/BSD/Plan9 etc I assume that gets rid of superfish?	Feb 19 18:17
cubexyz	hopefully it's not in the BIOS or other firmware	Feb 19 18:18
MinceR	indeed	Feb 19 18:19
MinceR	or if you get a thinkpad	Feb 19 18:19
MinceR	at least one site said it's only on the consumer models	Feb 19 18:19
MinceR	http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/	Feb 19 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com \| Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]		Feb 19 18:19
MinceR	this one	Feb 19 18:19
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cubexyz	looks like OS level stuff	Feb 19 18:21
MinceR	unlike the NSA malware :>	Feb 19 18:23
MinceR	(the one in the HDD firmware, that is)	Feb 19 18:23
cubexyz	nasty	Feb 19 18:25
cubexyz	they don't even know if it's NSA or black hats	Feb 19 18:27
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cubexyz	or both I suppose	Feb 19 18:27
MinceR	the NSA _is_ black hats	Feb 19 18:27
cubexyz	yes	Feb 19 18:28
MinceR	they've been undermining the security of software used by the taxpayers whom they parasitize	Feb 19 18:28
cubexyz	one article mentions nls_933w.dll	Feb 19 18:28
cubexyz	so it seems they are reprogramming the hard drive with customized firmware via some dll	Feb 19 18:30
cubexyz	check your boot loader for tampering	Feb 19 18:31
cubexyz	if the code is not removal by flashing there's definitely a problem	Feb 19 18:33
cubexyz	I mean if they _are_ reprogramming firmware, then it's flashable then it's removable too	Feb 19 18:34
cubexyz	storing itself in hidden sectors of the hard drive, that's clever	Feb 19 18:36
cubexyz	survives disk formatting and os reinstalls	Feb 19 18:37
cubexyz	also... this is interesting too... piezo-electric shock sensors know if your hard drive has been dropped	Feb 19 18:42
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cubexyz	MinceR, not that I'm recommending Lenovo, but they do have one netbook without an OS	Feb 19 18:49
cubexyz	I hear they are storing windows 8 product keys in the BIOS now, yet another thing to consider	Feb 19 18:51
XRevan86	cubexyz: SLIC is the name.	Feb 19 18:52
XRevan86	(but actually it's MSDM)	Feb 19 18:52
cubexyz	when did that start?	Feb 19 18:54
cubexyz	I assume it's recent	Feb 19 18:54
XRevan86	cubexyz: Visnu	Feb 19 18:55
XRevan86	(visnu (russian): be hanged/freezed)	Feb 19 18:56
cubexyz	lol, ok I thought you might have meant Vista :)	Feb 19 18:56
cubexyz	thanks for the clarification	Feb 19 18:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19	Feb 19 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	Very Soon http://t.co/kSYbbsv74a	Feb 19 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First	Feb 19 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	ARMv8 Board http://t.co/i5eRI0GuQ8	Feb 19 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/21DJABO83d	Feb 19 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold	Feb 19 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Wnit2Ivasc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 19:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jref0	Feb 19 19:02
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XRevan86	Oh my, I just remembered what I have seen this morning (GMT+3)	Feb 19 19:02
XRevan86	http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-mate	Feb 19 19:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.ubuntu.com \| Ubuntu – Package Search Results -- ubuntu-mate [ http://ur1.ca/jref6 ]		Feb 19 19:02
XRevan86	Apparently Ubuntu MATE is now an official flavour	Feb 19 19:03
cubexyz	XRevan86, I hear you can get the license key (if you really must) via:	Feb 19 19:10
cubexyz	ls /sys/firmware/acpi/tables	Feb 19 19:10
XRevan86	cubexyz: That is correct :).	Feb 19 19:10
cubexyz	my computer is too old for that stuff anyways	Feb 19 19:11
XRevan86	Mine had OEM Linpus	Feb 19 19:11
XRevan86	cubexyz: Still, I know some stuff about it because my friend gave me an OEM key which I gave to my sister :)	Feb 19 19:11
XRevan86	cubexyz: Other important thing is that OEM Windows should never be booted.	Feb 19 19:15
XRevan86	this action locks the key to hardware	Feb 19 19:15
cubexyz	well I try my best not to do that :)	Feb 19 19:15
cubexyz	in the old days I just assembled white box PCs	Feb 19 19:16
cubexyz	amazing the influence microsoft has on hardware manufacturers	Feb 19 19:18
cubexyz	it's insidious	Feb 19 19:18
msb	Upgrade of HTTP protocol coming: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/18/http2-speed-up-web-browsing-desktop-mobile	Feb 19 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| What is HTTP/2 and is it going to speed up the web? \| Technology \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jrexq ]		Feb 19 20:29
XRevan86	msb: Indeed.	Feb 19 20:29
msb	Hope it doesn't interfere with Ad-Blocker!	Feb 19 20:30
XRevan86	msb: I doubt that :).	Feb 19 20:30
msb	I went to look at an article posted here about desktop environments, and it was showing one page at a time with ads. The first ad showed bug larvae moving around. I decided I didn't need to read it.	Feb 19 20:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP Targets Cisco and Facebook With New Line of	Feb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	Open-Source Networking Gear	Feb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Scl0GKU1s9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many	Feb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	Things Needed Fixing http://t.co/atSokVslDY	Feb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS	Feb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	Designed for Creative People	Feb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/by6SxQfD7E (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf24	Feb 19 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A developer's guide to getting into open source	Feb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QToS4UpKK0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf25	Feb 19 20:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lumina Desktop 0.8.2 Released!	Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/eChU08iRz4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf26	Feb 19 20:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/5vV90nMVBx (www.x.org) X Server	Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.10	Feb 19 20:46
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TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/B6Skfp5HSf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf27	Feb 19 20:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel	Feb 19 21:20
TweetTuxMachines	Releases http://t.co/jrUjFmfCoP	Feb 19 21:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 21:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrfbf	Feb 19 21:20
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer commented on an article.	Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFC	5 mins ·	Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFC	A load of bull**** closed down an exit ramp off of I-65.	Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFC	On the way to or from the governor's office?	Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFC	http://www.jconline.com/story/news/2015/02/19/frozen-fecal-matter-closes-exit-ramp/23685539/?fb_action_ids=316930078517030&fb_action_types=og.comments	Feb 20 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jconline.com \| Frozen fecal matter closes I-65 exit ramp [ http://ur1.ca/jrgov ]		Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer commented on an article.	Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFC	26 mins ·	Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFC	At least the Republicans are finally regulating some women that they all have first hand experience with. (Except for the ones that prefer to meet young men on Craigslist and try to pay them off with their wristwatch and iPad. grin)	Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFC	http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/02/19/indiana-strippers-face-state-licensing-under-senate-bill/23674199/?fb_action_ids=316885015188203&fb_action_types=og.comments	Feb 20 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indystar.com \| Will bill to regulate Indiana strippers curb sex trafficking? [ http://ur1.ca/jrgp0 ]		Feb 20 00:55
MinceR	poosicle :D	Feb 20 00:56
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MinceR	s/oo/oop/	Feb 20 00:57
DaemonFC	It had to be frozen so it would get to Governor Pence good and fresh.	Feb 20 01:14
DaemonFC	Maybe they were going to make a statue of him out of it.	Feb 20 01:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS	Feb 20 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Designed for Creative People	Feb 20 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	@JESSICA_HUFF http://t.co/by6SxQfD7E (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 01:24
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MinceR	gn	Feb 20 01:25
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DaemonFC`	Ryan Farmer Whenever I read anything that a religious fundamentalist has said, my brain feels like someone sprayed Vicks Chloraseptic Spray all over it. for about 10 minutes. It's the strangest sensation.	Feb 20 01:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 19/2/2015: Hewlett-Packard on Cumulus	Feb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, Previews of GNOME 3.16 Beta	Feb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yhwu4lvScU (techrights.org)	Feb 20 01:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines XOrg X Server Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu	Feb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	14.10 http://t.co/l0NF5Jlmp0	Feb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 01:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Enlist in the Android Army: A beginner’s guide	Feb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	to Android http://t.co/UIwKQFHD4b	Feb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com) defector from apple to	Feb 20 01:41
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TweetTuxMachines	android linux	Feb 20 01:41
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622078	Feb 20 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: it is a sad fact that honest, independent sites often perish whereas those that sell out for company/plutocrat thrive, hire, spread more		Feb 20 01:44
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 01:44
schestowitz	As wealth is concentrated, power is concentrated. The plutocrats control all the wealth, so they control all the advertising and the advertising funded press. Press concentration brings yet more power to those who already have too much.	Feb 20 01:44
schestowitz	Anti-trust laws and laws against media consolidation in the US have broken down almost completely.	Feb 20 01:44
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 01:44
schestowitz	I didn't know there were such laws at all	Feb 20 01:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Boxes 3.16 Will Bring a Cool Welcome	Feb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	Screen and Numerous Improvements	Feb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RjjFvn3PKl (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 01:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cheese 3.16 Beta Brings Warning Fixes and Code	Feb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	Cleanup http://t.co/TbfOXtW3PR	Feb 20 01:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unity 8 Continues Working Towards Proper	Feb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	Desktop Support http://t.co/QlvfXI85aB	Feb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 20 01:46
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621970	Feb 20 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ect are still scumbags without tact. They ask #microsoft mouthpiece Rob Enderle for 'analysis' of #google http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/81722.html?rss=1 [1/2]		Feb 20 01:47
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schestowitz	"Oh, that guy. http://archive09.linux.com/articles/38081 https://web.archive.org/web/20040928043900/http://pl.caldera.com/2004forum/agenda/Enderle_keynote_SCO-Forum2004.html"	Feb 20 01:47
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schestowitz	"	Feb 20 01:48
schestowitz	In his speech, Enderle said of Groklaw: "The site is supported by a marketing executive whose future is tied to the future of Linux and has strong political skills." I asked Pamela Jones (PJ to Groklaw regulars) if this were true. She replied:	Feb 20 01:48
schestowitz	I'm not a marketing exec. He makes these things up, I guess. I also, as you know, do not work for or with IBM. I've stated so publicly, including in a letter to the editor for ZDNet, when they asked me to do so the last time this came up.	Feb 20 01:48
schestowitz	A simple Google search would have cleared up this matter, had he done one, so I see no excuse for him to say reckless, inaccurate things. I don't understand why anyone would say untrue things about someone. It's terribly wrong, in my view, and I feel he should apologize.	Feb 20 01:48
schestowitz	I'm just me. Groklaw is me. Me plus a large community that cares. Groklaw just tipped the 7,000 member mark, and it is still growing. That's all there is to it. I gather he imagines Groklaw is too good to be by little ole me, a nobody. Surely IBM must be behind it. But they aren't. Groklaw is a voice from the community, and if we are so effective that SCO and their gang feel they must attack Groklaw, I'm glad. But they should stick to	Feb 20 01:48
schestowitz	the truth.	Feb 20 01:48
schestowitz	Of course, a girl could get positively tuckered out trying to teach the SCO group manners.	Feb 20 01:48
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 01:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Files (Nautilus) 3.16 Beta 1 Is Out and Ready	Feb 20 01:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Say hi to cuttlefish! http://t.co/J4eJblsbTw	Feb 20 01:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ETC2 Decoding Support In Mesa's Gallium3D For	Feb 20 01:51
TweetTuxMachines	Freedreno http://t.co/NUwmdLAJUr	Feb 20 01:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Getting Fedora 21 on the Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 20 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu OS Firmware For The Aquaris E4.5 Now	Feb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	Available To Download And Install	Feb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/y5BVQxZaAo (androidheadlines.com)	Feb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	linux	Feb 20 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution Now	Feb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	Supports Ubuntu Snappy Core	Feb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Toshiba Laptops To Have Improved Support In	Feb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.20 http://t.co/kawUmqXp3G	Feb 20 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 review: Android Wear can be	Feb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	remarkably unremarkable http://t.co/zBPpAFFbg0	Feb 20 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "PC preloaded with Wind River’s Linux-based IDP	Feb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	XT IoT gateway stack running on quad- or	Feb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	dual-core Atoms."	Feb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kwMpep8ZVR (linuxgizmos.com)	Feb 20 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/0uROvL2i8d	Feb 20 02:55
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DaemonFC	Controlled Opposition says:	Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFC	Why should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos.	Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFC	If we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.	Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFC	Controlled Opposition says:	Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFC	Why should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos.	Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFC	If we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.	Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFC	oops	Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFC	Did you meet an 18 year old man in a hotel room for a really good time while being an outspoken anti-gay Republican? :)	Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFC	It's not really the part about meeting an 18 year old in a hotel room that bothers me. I mean, 18 year olds know what they're doing. He knew he was going to have some Republican's nasty old balls all over him, and that was his choice. Eww. It's the whole anti-gay Republican part. Be one or the other. You know? :)	Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFC	Then, to top it all off, he got away with the "I spoke with God and he says I've been forgiven." thing, and the people who voted for him because he was sponsoring the anti-gay marriage amendment idea re-elected him.	Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFC	Of course, that was before the state went to court and got the gay marriage ban thrown out as unconstitutional. Now they're not even debating passing the amendment because they'd rather the entire issue go away without costing the state another $400,000 to defend another unconstitutional ban.	Feb 20 03:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/9bIbCR1HmS	Feb 20 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 04:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution Now	Feb 20 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Supports Ubuntu Snappy Core	Feb 20 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	@ColoDeskSpace http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 04:51
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984	Feb 20 09:13
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984	Feb 20 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suffert: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://t.co/kz8JNpKt3a via @schestowitz		Feb 20 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com		Feb 20 09:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568665907704131584 https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568666303663357953	Feb 20 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz didn't it start with minix? depends how far you want to go I guess		Feb 20 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz is it ethical to change tv channel? seems like a no brainer to me		Feb 20 09:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines News coverage from linux events (of which	Feb 20 09:19
TweetTuxMachines	there's plenty at present)	Feb 20 09:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wCNBBu7Zoh (www.linux.com)	Feb 20 09:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wNhr6Brkae (fossforce.com)	Feb 20 09:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 10 Great Quotes on PaaS and Containers from Collab Summit 2015 \| Linux.com		Feb 20 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Getting Things Started at SCALE 13x \| FOSS Force		Feb 20 09:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Proprietary android apps on a proprietary	Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	platform? No thanks, BlackBerry	Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WVdh6RSTk4 (www.reuters.com)	Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VX0up7dhsW (recode.net)	Feb 20 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com \| BlackBerry updates software, offers access to Android apps \| Reuters		Feb 20 09:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-recode.net \| BlackBerry Update Offers Access to Android Apps \| Re/code		Feb 20 09:25
*TweetTuxMachines @lapletta followed @tuxmachines		Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Handset makers test Android's reign	Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ROHQp3Poty (registration.ft.com)	Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	negativity about the linux based leader	Feb 20 09:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com \| Handset makers test Android’s reign - FT.com		Feb 20 09:25
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628227	Feb 20 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/568499434264403969		Feb 20 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: the more we learn about #NSA/#GCHQ exploits, the more I'm amazed at how little they've been able to do with them in fighting crime		Feb 20 09:36
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 09:36
schestowitz	Big Banks launder drug cartel money, and profit hugely off the police-state (the only three actors the Prohibition War benefits)	Feb 20 09:36
schestowitz	Almost all public national 'debt' and bailouts are money handed to private financial interests who then use it to consolidate the economy, and buy public infrastructure from the 'bankrupt' governments (How to be a Fascist 101)	Feb 20 09:36
schestowitz	Almost all foreign aid goes to warlords (gives power to the very people who destroy resilient communities)	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	the CIA funds, arms and trains Al Qaeda/ISIS/ISIL/whatever-Hill-&-Knowlton-tells-them-to-call-their-asset-this-week-to-confuse-the-public, and yet we're supposed to give up our rights, drain our treasure, and go to war - 'cause terrorists	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	IMF and World Bank development plans literally retro-velope economies and societies	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	"Free Trade" agreements are multi-thousand page documents negotiated in secret	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	Dept of War renamed Dept of 'Defense' right as military might projected offensively across the globe exponentially	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	'Federal' Reserve isn't federal	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	Gitmo was supposed to be closed	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	'Mission Accomplished'	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	Attacked by Saudi extremists, go to war with only secular country in the region who had nothing to do with anything	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	'Cost Plus'	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	"Those WMD's have got to be around here somewhere? Over here? Nope! Under here? Nope!"	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	"Patriot" Act	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	Parallel Construction	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	Operation Northwoods	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	False-Flags	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	Organizations like ALEC draft all legislation (will the Gentleman from Coke please cede the podium to the Senator from BP), and legislators don't even read the bills they pass (and legalize insider-trading for themselves)	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	Whistle-blowers, journalists and other political/economic enemies are imprisoned, character-assassinated, or murdered and tortured, while all nations point at each other and scream "Abuse!"	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	The military bulldozes date/fig/pomogranite farms and protects poppy fields/distribution networks in 'peace-keeping' missions	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	The Establishment (including GE's MSNBC/	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	Maybe we can stop accepting unaccountable power Elites' justifications at face value...	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	"Ick....cynicism...I'm going to go back to anticipating my Librem 15 and buying my hobby farm..."	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	"Happy thoughts, positive thoughts, productive thoughts A_A"	Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz	Librem won't do enough to correct things, but it's a start	Feb 20 09:38
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5620844	Feb 20 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/JamesRisen/status/567911078623068161		Feb 20 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JamesRisen: I plan to spend the rest of my life fighting to undo damage done to press freedom in the United States by Barack Obama and Eric Holder.		Feb 20 09:39
schestowitz	"Yeah, sorry everyone. I swear I don't smoke ganja (lucky for us all)"	Feb 20 09:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628334	Feb 20 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lenovo’s bundled adware also comes with hole http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptops back door? #lenovo #thinkpad #china		Feb 20 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thenextweb.com \| Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]		Feb 20 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org \| Lenovo Is Breaking HTTPS Security on its Recent Laptops \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jrdpa ]		Feb 20 09:39
schestowitz	"Only available for Windows?"	Feb 20 09:39
schestowitz	Another Windows exclusive	Feb 20 09:39
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Handset makers test Android's reign http://t.co/ROHQp3Poty negativity...'		Feb 20 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com \| Handset makers test Android’s reign - FT.com		Feb 20 09:43
*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'News coverage from linux events (of which there's...'		Feb 20 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines All Ubuntu Phones Are Now Sold Out, Says BQ on	Feb 20 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	Twitter http://t.co/QhaX2tF3Ow	Feb 20 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| All Ubuntu Phones Are Now Sold Out, Says BQ on Twitter - Softpedia		Feb 20 09:46
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/peterelvidge/status/568709604495863808	Feb 20 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@peterelvidge: @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/kfigt5KAD9… http://t.co/w7oWhlDcp3		Feb 20 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> t.co \| t.co / Twitter		Feb 20 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> pixelartistpete.wordpress.com \| @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/HjFtv5r5MQ #debian #futurestudio #gnu #linux #art \| Epic Pixel Art By Peter Elvidge		Feb 20 09:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS	Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	Designed for Creative People	Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jLrOo6zdMU (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrjxh	Feb 20 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People - Softpedia		Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold	Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LiW5Wr139f (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9FIx2BopMD (www.theinquirer.net)	Feb 20 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold \| ZDNet		Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrjxk	Feb 20 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net \| 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 models sold as total sales hit five million- The Inquirer		Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On Linux	Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/um3b8jykFS (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrjxl	Feb 20 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP to Ship Commodity Switches With Cumulus	Feb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines	Linux OS http://t.co/FmMA3m8tGM	Feb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.datacenterknowledge.com)	Feb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cKtc4XS0EC (bits.blogs.nytimes.com)	Feb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pSCbW09Pvo	Feb 20 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datacenterknowledge.com \| HP to Ship Commodity Switches With Cumulus Linux OS \| Data Center Knowledge		Feb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com)	Feb 20 10:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times		Feb 20 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com \| HP Announces Linux Powered Open Networking Switches		Feb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First	Feb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	ARMv8 Board http://t.co/lUgtrC9jYu	Feb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com) http://t.co/wnfApGOgt1	Feb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	(mrpogson.com)	Feb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrjy5	Feb 20 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First ARMv8 Board \| Linux.com		Feb 20 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Hmmmm… 96Boards Could Be To ARM What ATX Was To x86 \| Robert Pogson		Feb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In For	Feb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	Snappy Ubuntu http://t.co/jU60Nbszvv	Feb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.forbes.com) http://t.co/JonJFiRSvD	Feb 20 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com \| Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In For Snappy Ubuntu - Forbes		Feb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.canadianreviewer.com)	Feb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrjy6	Feb 20 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.canadianreviewer.com \| Sales of Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition smartphone begin in EU - Canadian Reviewer - Reviews, News and Opinion with a Canadian Perspective		Feb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many	Feb 20 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	Things Needed Fixing http://t.co/UEtM7ZN10A	Feb 20 10:18
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many Things Needed Fixing - Softpedia		Feb 20 10:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Qt 5.5 is expected to ship in about two	Feb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	months" http://t.co/TsJKjqcwn4	Feb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 20 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Qt 5.5 Features: Many Exciting Improvements - Phoronix		Feb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrk0a	Feb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chainsaw Warrior Lords of the Night Board Game	Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	Lands On Steam for Linux	Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/28J1SNoCc5 (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrk3i	Feb 20 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Chainsaw Warrior: Lords of the Night Board Game Lands on Steam for Linux - Softpedia		Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Wear 5.0.2 Update Starts Rolling Out	Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	With Some Google Fit Fixes In Tow	Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mG8qf2QAci (www.androidpolice.com)	Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrk3j	Feb 20 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com \| Android Wear 5.0.2 Update Starts Rolling Out With Some Google Fit Fixes In Tow		Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Thriving http://t.co/AOyo5SIcvL	Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	(ostatic.com) http://t.co/uNLyPEYuO0	Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.businesswire.com)	Feb 20 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| RightScale's State of the Cloud Survey: Hybrid Clouds, Docker Thriving		Feb 20 10:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrk3k	Feb 20 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com \| Docker Project Partners with Oceanic Society for Open-source-a-thon to Support Whale and Marine Wildlife Conservation \| Business Wire		Feb 20 10:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LinHES R8.3 Released http://t.co/1xHzMvJKWU	Feb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linhes.org)	Feb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrk5j	Feb 20 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linhes.org \| LinHES - LinHES R8.3 Released		Feb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel	Feb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	Releases http://t.co/R1xdfIyPRL (www.eweek.com)	Feb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/N6vjX8Rqmz (ostatic.com)	Feb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrk5k	Feb 20 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel Releases		Feb 20 10:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS released	Feb 20 10:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is	Feb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8	Feb 20 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Final has arrived!"	Feb 20 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xubuntu Lubuntu & Ubuntu GNOME have new	Feb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	releases http://t.co/ES6OqbMCsl	Feb 20 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3	Feb 20 12:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is	Feb 20 12:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases	Feb 20 13:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases	Feb 20 13:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Now Available!	Feb 20 13:09
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Sosumi	https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/	Feb 20 15:07
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__martin__	news broke regards whole secure access products and solutions trust-breach	Feb 20 16:23
__martin__	see the correlation between mainstream media's ukraine & tanks / isis propaganda push and flow of Ed Joseph Snow docs?	Feb 20 16:25
__martin__	it ain't just a gas reserves and vast land waiting for gmo in UA anymore..	Feb 20 16:25
__martin__	also	Feb 20 16:26
__martin__	dafuq is this	Feb 20 16:26
__martin__	http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/02/19/1830232/microsofts-first-azure-hosted-service-is-powered-by-linux	Feb 20 16:26
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__martin__	schestowitz: how many sim cards you got with wife? any older than 2010?	Feb 20 16:27
__martin__	how does one reason out exfiltration and newspeak to his female partner without coming out as a person with mental disorder?	Feb 20 16:29
__martin__	tried myself hard and failed xD	Feb 20 16:29
__martin__	btw btw, the utter worst shiet of the week, CNN headline calls those "eathing healthy and demanding non-gmo veggies" with this "Orthorexia nervosa"	Feb 20 16:31
__martin__	eating*	Feb 20 16:31
__martin__	</end_rant>	Feb 20 16:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 ethical open source hacking tools for	Feb 20 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	business http://t.co/0oekne51Re	Feb 20 17:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 20/2/2015: Bloomberg Joins Linux	Feb 20 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	Foundation, ClearOS Community 6.6.0	Feb 20 17:30
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cubexyz	which OEM would you say is the most Linux friendly?	Feb 20 18:01
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cubexyz	I guess Acer isn't too bad	Feb 20 18:03
cubexyz	not that I really think Acer laptops are good, they're not	Feb 20 18:03
cubexyz	but they do support Linux	Feb 20 18:03
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'm using an Acer laptop :)	Feb 20 18:03
XRevan86	and so is my mother	Feb 20 18:03
cubexyz	any problems with overheating and shutdowns?	Feb 20 18:04
XRevan86	cubexyz: nope o_0	Feb 20 18:04
cubexyz	which models?	Feb 20 18:04
XRevan86	TE11HC and TE69KB	Feb 20 18:04
cubexyz	I have an acer aspire 5534 which overheats	Feb 20 18:05
XRevan86	Notable that on TE69KB stock Linpus goes to kernel panic instantly after booting.	Feb 20 18:05
cubexyz	have you ever tried panasonic toughbooks? They work very well	Feb 20 18:05
XRevan86	cubexyz: No, never.	Feb 20 18:06
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'm not an expert in laptops, these two are being chosen because they were the best in price category "truly cheap"	Feb 20 18:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/sDx97vXgTg	Feb 20 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 18:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3	Feb 20 18:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines INTERVIEW: TIM O’REILLY http://t.co/w9ytCaWD7h	Feb 20 18:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 18:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| INTERVIEW: TIM O’REILLY \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 18:09
cubexyz	XRevan86, I thought about finding a laptop with easily upgradeable video card	Feb 20 18:10
cubexyz	e.g. a laptop that supports MXM	Feb 20 18:10
cubexyz	I'm not completely happy with any laptop, but toughbook CF-48 comes close	Feb 20 18:10
XRevan86	And I prefer integrated graphics :)	Feb 20 18:11
cubexyz	I have to consider repairability	Feb 20 18:12
XRevan86	cubexyz: I doubt that's easy to check.	Feb 20 18:12
cubexyz	you're right, it's not	Feb 20 18:12
XRevan86	and impossible to have on thin laptops	Feb 20 18:12
cubexyz	it's one of the things I'm always researching	Feb 20 18:13
cubexyz	I see lots of info on "least repairable laptops"	Feb 20 18:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: Let me guess: it's full of macbooks	Feb 20 18:14
cubexyz	yes	Feb 20 18:15
XRevan86	https://startpage.com/do/search?query=least+repairable+laptops who could imagine…	Feb 20 18:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-startpage.com \| least repairable laptops - Startpage Web Search [ http://ur1.ca/jrmrl ]		Feb 20 18:16
cubexyz	one time I asked for a laptop with all replaceable parts, and the guy just laughed at me	Feb 20 18:16
cubexyz	buy two :)	Feb 20 18:16
XRevan86	cubexyz: One can dream…	Feb 20 18:16
MinceR	one can replace the laptop with another laptop :>	Feb 20 18:17
XRevan86	Laptops look like a complete freedom on a tablet/smartphone background.	Feb 20 18:18
cubexyz	I fix laptops	Feb 20 18:18
cubexyz	so far I can say Dell Dimension laptops suck :)	Feb 20 18:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: Maybe it's awesome only in fifth dimention.	Feb 20 18:18
cubexyz	haha	Feb 20 18:19
XRevan86	you just can't see that, you, three-dimentional peasant	Feb 20 18:19
cubexyz	I ran out of letters	Feb 20 18:19
MinceR	i can say everything from dHell sucks	Feb 20 18:19
XRevan86	Maybe fifth dimention is hell, that would explain that.	Feb 20 18:19
cubexyz	I'm not sure things are improving on the repair front	Feb 20 18:20
cubexyz	probably it's getting worse	Feb 20 18:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Creating Forms for Easy LibreOffice Database	Feb 20 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	Entry on Linux http://t.co/fRMCLO2IVI	Feb 20 19:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Creating Forms for Easy LibreOffice Database Entry on Linux \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/eCXI5VRZzQ	Feb 20 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 19:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Enterprise Software Giants Live In An Open	Feb 20 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	Source World http://t.co/ZrhFjQp01S	Feb 20 19:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 19:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js	Feb 20 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 19:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support,	Feb 20 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes 71 Bugs http://t.co/SLKzdgDwiU	Feb 20 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU	Feb 20 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	Driver Code http://t.co/vGR0g0DiCD	Feb 20 19:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 19:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU Driver Code \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 19:01
*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21'		Feb 20 19:01
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*TweetTuxMachines @techdotpro retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21'		Feb 20 19:06
*TweetTuxMachines @markperera favourited 'Enterprise Software Giants Live In An Open Source...'		Feb 20 19:06
MinceR	http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/zzo1.png	Feb 20 19:07
msb	MinceR: Good one!	Feb 20 19:41
__martin__	+1 shared further	Feb 20 20:05
__martin__	on BBS	Feb 20 20:05
schestowitz	+1	Feb 20 20:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Demand for Linux developers on the rise	Feb 20 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/O7PcyfzSuM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 20:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Demand for Linux developers on the rise \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app	Feb 20 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	prevalence http://t.co/qKveZLOE2P	Feb 20 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnko	Feb 20 20:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GDB 7.9 released http://t.co/YaOg5bMSXG	Feb 20 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 20:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims for	Feb 20 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	mobile developers http://t.co/ljVLbAmAkX	Feb 20 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 20:19
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MinceR	https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235	Feb 20 20:27
MinceR	KDE is dying.	Feb 20 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org \| KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months - SoylentNews [ http://ur1.ca/jrnmq ]		Feb 20 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the	Feb 20 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	space station http://t.co/6SJZxFSpMB	Feb 20 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnnq	Feb 20 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the space station \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 20:32
*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims for...'		Feb 20 20:32
__martin__	MinceR: atm @ fedora 21 / just curious, selinux+systemd, can you link me any in-depth audit, or I shall trust devs from Brno city?	Feb 20 20:35
__martin__	schestowitz: so roy, how many sim cards in total within household? gave mine in dec; introduced girl to textsecure, redphone, tox.im	Feb 20 20:36
__martin__	(pgp/gpg ain't noob-proof yet; nor router flashing)	Feb 20 20:37
__martin__	gave up*	Feb 20 20:37
MinceR	__martin__: huh?	Feb 20 20:38
MinceR	i don't trust fedora anymore	Feb 20 20:38
__martin__	well my old HW needs radeon blobs so	Feb 20 20:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5631763	Feb 20 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So much #superfish blame thrown at #lenovo without pointing out #gnu #linux or #freesw as a way out of this kind of abuse		Feb 20 20:47
schestowitz	"I'm sitting this one out. I just get tired of telling people the same shit over and over, and hearing the same old excuses in response."	Feb 20 20:47
schestowitz	__martin__: at least proved you right	Feb 20 20:47
cubexyz	dozerland can't get much worse I think :)	Feb 20 20:48
schestowitz	MinceR: http://m.forums.theregister.co.uk/post/reply/2375127	Feb 20 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.forums.theregister.co.uk \| Reply to post • Re: If systemd is so bad... • The Register Forums [ http://ur1.ca/jrns9 ]		Feb 20 20:50
cubexyz	when everyone always talks about excel when they really mean spreadsheet, or assume it's ipconfig rather than ifconfig (despite the fact that the Unix world invented ifconfig in 1982)	Feb 20 20:51
cubexyz	not to mention the death-grip the OEMs seem to be in	Feb 20 20:51
cubexyz	blame the schools	Feb 20 20:53
cubexyz	that's where it all starts	Feb 20 20:53
cubexyz	everything was mostly copied from DEC	Feb 20 20:55
cubexyz	RT11, copied by Kildall to make CP/M	Feb 20 20:55
schestowitz	> http://yle.fi/uutiset/coding_soon_to_be_part_of_finnish_schoolchildrens_core_curriculum/7818567	Feb 20 20:56
schestowitz	>	Feb 20 20:56
schestowitz	> :\	Feb 20 20:56
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schestowitz	Is Microsoft involved or just the minister connected to microsoft?	Feb 20 20:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default	Feb 20 21:01
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TweetTuxMachines	coolest Android phone ever?	Feb 20 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4xZSijPMgQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 21:01
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cubexyz	http://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/08/10/0047256/finlands-upper-secondary-school-exams-going-all-linux	Feb 20 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.slashdot.org \| Finland's Upper Secondary School Exams Going All-Linux - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jrnwq ]		Feb 20 21:08
MinceR	http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-20-at-1.43.43-PM-1024x559.jpg	Feb 20 21:13
MinceR	(also a slogan for systemd)	Feb 20 21:13
cubexyz	there are alternatives to systemd :)	Feb 20 21:13
MinceR	and the cult is working on making everything dependent on it	Feb 20 21:14
MinceR	their goal being no choice for you	Feb 20 21:14
cubexyz	well they can try but it won't work	Feb 20 21:14
cubexyz	icewm doesn't use systemd, I checked	Feb 20 21:14
MinceR	yet	Feb 20 21:15
__martin__	schestowitz: thanks, I had a minor conversation with fauno, the philosopher of parabola.nu project; it's in people's neural pathways, pre-learned contexts, proprietary soft is an invisible layer	Feb 20 21:16
__martin__	yes	Feb 20 21:16
__martin__	commodity logic, he said	Feb 20 21:16
__martin__	pathethic, head of mine faculty giving out free vi$ta8 tablets to excellent understand the most indoctrinated students	Feb 20 21:18
__martin__	or faplets for the most of them	Feb 20 21:18
__martin__	at least the college's library heard of openaccess	Feb 20 21:19
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__martin__	infopanels @ campus powered by XP [sic] ... fourteen y'ol OS	Feb 20 21:20
cubexyz	I can solve the OS problem :)	Feb 20 21:21
__martin__	better to say, not old but vulnerable	Feb 20 21:21
__martin__	xD	Feb 20 21:21
cubexyz	http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-828-operating-system-engineering-fall-2012/	Feb 20 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ocw.mit.edu \| Operating System Engineering \| Electrical Engineering and Computer Science \| MIT OpenCourseWare [ http://ur1.ca/jro05 ]		Feb 20 21:21
__martin__	any of you guys already alienated close frieds, family relatives with refusing proprietary stuff?	Feb 20 21:22
cubexyz	of course not	Feb 20 21:22
MinceR	no	Feb 20 21:22
cubexyz	well maybe one friend who is a total microsoft fanboy but we're still friends	Feb 20 21:23
cubexyz	we just don't talk about the whole microsoft thing	Feb 20 21:23
cubexyz	anyways, MIT uses xv6 a lot	Feb 20 21:24
cubexyz	MIT folks are often ahead of the curve anyways	Feb 20 21:26
cubexyz	MIT, Berkeley... they know the score	Feb 20 21:26
__martin__	last summer i was in one flat not further than thirty kilometres from ukraine borders which had a settopbox from deutche telekom's subsidiary company and it was rolling on the magnetic HDD and fans on any occasion of verbal commuication within that living room	Feb 20 21:27
__martin__	pretty scary	Feb 20 21:27
__martin__	complete black box, as wells as their routers for optical line.. never heard of anyone flashing openwrt on that piece of hw	Feb 20 21:27
__martin__	well*	Feb 20 21:28
cubexyz	hexedit the firmware and have a look	Feb 20 21:28
__martin__	later on in early autumn i demonstrated OTR functionallity of pidgin some three kilometres +- from a military airport where u.s. jets are welcome all the time	Feb 20 21:33
__martin__	last friday in a club i asked a policeman out of duty regards their treatment of chronic filesharers like me	Feb 20 21:33
__martin__	at least he was honest, said he just wanna reach his pension and not give a damn	Feb 20 21:34
__martin__	xD	Feb 20 21:34
cubexyz	not too many people understand all their firmware	Feb 20 21:35
MinceR	maybe only the amish do :>	Feb 20 21:36
__martin__	;D	Feb 20 21:36
cubexyz	most routers were VXworks or linux	Feb 20 21:40
__martin__	tbh, with RMS way of life for three months, am lucky no one called ambulance for me and detached me into rehab	Feb 20 21:41
__martin__	parents = ??? // thou i printed 'em out snowden doc and short report in their native lang	Feb 20 21:42
__martin__	regards sim cards	Feb 20 21:42
cubexyz	it's hard work reverse engineering firmware with no source code	Feb 20 21:46
__martin__	so far worst dilemma are CCTVs in a village where father ran for a mayor; he has fb account, uses cracked win7 box and did not took me seriously when i gifted him for his b-day with FSF's e-mail self-defense guide	Feb 20 21:48
__martin__	with all this i just wanted to demostrate how far into one's life can technology go	Feb 20 21:48
__martin__	not sure for how much longer i could handle this hermit stance from others	Feb 20 21:49
__martin__	thou i hope mr. joseph snow will push some more stuff sooner rather than later	Feb 20 21:49
__martin__	</end_rant>	Feb 20 21:49
__martin__	such an oxymoron; in order to get free thoughts am going from time to time into a barbed-wire fenced reservation for deer and stuff, because disrespecting this private property brings me more freedom than walking the streets under cctv managed in the end within father's reach	Feb 20 22:21
__martin__	gosh	Feb 20 22:21
MinceR	which country is that?	Feb 20 22:23
__martin__	the best thing is ofc anyways messing into overcrowded human areas where you forget the orwell's animal farm story with time passing by	Feb 20 22:24
__martin__	MinceR: post-soviet slovakia, near european surveillance hub.. austria (vienn)	Feb 20 22:24
MinceR	ic	Feb 20 22:26
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scientes	i'm so tired of software	Feb 20 22:56
MinceR	welcome to the club	Feb 20 22:56
__martin__	+1	Feb 20 22:56
scientes	echo "linux" \| cpp -E -	Feb 20 22:58
scientes	^^what a load of crap	Feb 20 22:58
scientes	this is 2015 and I still can't name my variable "linux" or "unix"	Feb 20 22:59
MinceR	there's a macro by that name that has a value of 1, apparently	Feb 20 23:02
scientes	its part of cpp	Feb 20 23:02
scientes	its even documented	Feb 20 23:03
MinceR	probably so that c programs will know they're being built on/for linux and unix	Feb 20 23:03
scientes	there is __linux__ for that	Feb 20 23:03
MinceR	indeed	Feb 20 23:03
MinceR	i wonder why there are these undecorated versions	Feb 20 23:03
scientes	the cause me confusing bugs	Feb 20 23:04
MinceR	what's the purpose of a variable called that, though?	Feb 20 23:05
cubexyz	I don't think you can name an executable 'test' either	Feb 20 23:06
MinceR	i'm pretty sure you can, as there already is such an executable :>	Feb 20 23:06
MinceR	doesn't make much sense to name another the same way, though	Feb 20 23:06
cubexyz	I think ld would complain	Feb 20 23:07
cubexyz	oh wait a sec	Feb 20 23:07
cubexyz	I might have a directory test	Feb 20 23:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux	Feb 20 23:07
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cubexyz	so it wouldn't try to overwrite the directory :)	Feb 20 23:08
cubexyz	I remember one guy overwrote his wp.com file because his filename was wp.com	Feb 20 23:09
cubexyz	every system has these types of things	Feb 20 23:09
cubexyz	in the olden days there was stropping	Feb 20 23:13
cubexyz	btw, if you were to use int linux; in unix v5 cc it would work :)	Feb 20 23:20
cubexyz	MinceR, you might find this interesting:	Feb 20 23:32
cubexyz	http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/	Feb 20 23:32
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cubexyz	that's Jessie of course	Feb 20 23:33
cubexyz	wheezy shouldn't be as difficult	Feb 20 23:33
MinceR	i've looked it	Feb 20 23:36
MinceR	his related post on debian-user (?) was more interesting, though :)	Feb 20 23:36
cubexyz	you have a link for that?	Feb 20 23:37
MinceR	https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html	Feb 20 23:42
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MinceR	thread starter: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00641.html	Feb 20 23:43
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cubexyz	ok, Luke Leighton is a bit pessimistic here... but since he used Debian as his main distro I can see his concern	Feb 20 23:47
cubexyz	there is no way are all the linux distros using systemd	Feb 20 23:47
cubexyz	s/are/that/	Feb 20 23:47
MinceR	it might happen	Feb 20 23:47
MinceR	considering what kde is doing, for example	Feb 20 23:48
cubexyz	no way... I'll make my own distro first :)	Feb 20 23:48
MinceR	sure, but what applications will be in it?	Feb 20 23:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why you should consider cloud-hosted Linux	Feb 20 23:49
TweetTuxMachines	desktops http://t.co/Nn8Zdw8LTA	Feb 20 23:49
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cubexyz	well anything I want... firefox, fbreader, etc	Feb 20 23:49
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MinceR	they might even get the bsd-s	Feb 20 23:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The open data platform, like United Linux	Feb 20 23:49
TweetTuxMachines	before it, will fail http://t.co/sqzvnd4Hm8	Feb 20 23:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 23:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux clockpocalypse in 2038 is looming and	Feb 20 23:49
TweetTuxMachines	there's no 'serious plan'	Feb 20 23:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Md8Ex4GjSV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 23:49
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MinceR	who knows, maybe red hat will kill gnu and linux before 2038	Feb 20 23:49
MinceR	maybe that's the plan	Feb 20 23:49
cubexyz	also there is no way in hell AIX or HP-UX will use systemd	Feb 20 23:49
MinceR	poisoning the well	Feb 20 23:49
cubexyz	there will be forks probably	Feb 20 23:50
MinceR	but who will write/port applications to them?	Feb 20 23:50
cubexyz	as long as you have the toolchain... anyone can do that	Feb 20 23:51
cubexyz	I still write PDP-11 code	Feb 20 23:51
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cubexyz	also the Motif guys :)	Feb 20 23:52
MinceR	sure, but can you keep patching secholes in an entire distro?	Feb 20 23:52
cubexyz	the old farts will not write systemd code	Feb 20 23:52
scientes	its systemd/linux now	Feb 20 23:52
scientes	and android/linux	Feb 20 23:52
cubexyz	MinceR, I do that already remember?	Feb 20 23:52
cubexyz	FC1	Feb 20 23:52
scientes	i write systemd code	Feb 20 23:52
scientes	it mostly sucks, but i do	Feb 20 23:53
cubexyz	ok, well of course some people do	Feb 20 23:53
MinceR	of course it sucks, it's fedora	Feb 20 23:53
cubexyz	especially Red Hat people	Feb 20 23:53
scientes	ummm, systemd is used by every gnu/linux distro now	Feb 20 23:53
scientes	its only android thats differn't	Feb 20 23:53
cubexyz	ummm no	Feb 20 23:53
MinceR	not every	Feb 20 23:53
scientes	yes	Feb 20 23:53
cubexyz	slackware does not	Feb 20 23:53
scientes	every one	Feb 20 23:53
MinceR	slackware and its derivatives don't use it	Feb 20 23:53
scientes	who cares	Feb 20 23:53
MinceR	gentoo supports it but uses openrc by default	Feb 20 23:53
scientes	again who cares	Feb 20 23:54
scientes	its all systemd now	Feb 20 23:54
MinceR	of course this won't help if all the application developers force systemd	Feb 20 23:54
scientes	now that ubuntu switched	Feb 20 23:54
MinceR	who cares about ubuntu	Feb 20 23:54
scientes	and gnome will be next	Feb 20 23:54
scientes	you can't use gnome without systemd	Feb 20 23:54
MinceR	the gnome people did the whole thing	Feb 20 23:54
cubexyz	right	Feb 20 23:54
scientes	for good reason	Feb 20 23:54
cubexyz	that's why there is ten billion other window managers	Feb 20 23:54
scientes	systemd is awesome	Feb 20 23:54
MinceR	i don't miss gnome or kde, but they'll eventually start taking useful stuff away too	Feb 20 23:55
*scientes loves gnome 2		Feb 20 23:55
scientes	*gnome 3	Feb 20 23:55
scientes	i don't like gnome 2	Feb 20 23:55
MinceR	wayland is another fuckup	Feb 20 23:55
scientes	no it isn't	Feb 20 23:55
MinceR	it's windows for gnu/linux	Feb 20 23:55
MinceR	all that's missing is moving the windowing system into the kernel	Feb 20 23:56
MinceR	only it's even more retarded than winblows	Feb 20 23:56
MinceR	winblows at least had pointer capture/warp functionality	Feb 20 23:56
MinceR	wayland omits that from the protocol	Feb 20 23:56
MinceR	and the wayland people are in love with client side decorations	Feb 20 23:56
cubexyz	tons of distros do not use systemd	Feb 20 23:57
cubexyz	there's dozens	Feb 20 23:57
MinceR	it worked out great in windows	Feb 20 23:57
scientes	but there is less than a dozen distros that matter	Feb 20 23:57
scientes	MinceR, wayland fixes the huge security problems of X	Feb 20 23:57
MinceR	yes, and it also fixes the functionality of X	Feb 20 23:58
scientes	except noone uses that fu nctionality anymore	Feb 20 23:58
MinceR	except plenty of people do	Feb 20 23:58
scientes	if you are talking about 1980s drawing primitives	Feb 20 23:58
MinceR	i'm talking about pointer capture/warp and proper window managers	Feb 20 23:58
cubexyz	http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributions	Feb 20 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org \| Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jrovf ]		Feb 20 23:59
MinceR	x2x, x2vnc and synergy relies on the former two	Feb 20 23:59
MinceR	and so do fps games	Feb 20 23:59
scientes	systemd won guys, get over it	Feb 20 23:59
MinceR	we'll see	Feb 20 23:59
scientes	wayland is next	Feb 20 23:59
scientes	linus torvalds already said systemd won	Feb 20 23:59
cubexyz	you're clueless scientes	Feb 20 23:59
MinceR	we'll also see if red hat and crApple also manage to kill *bsd	Feb 20 23:59
cubexyz	you think IBM will use systemd? :)	Feb 20 23:59
scientes	yes	Feb 21 00:00
MinceR	i think there won't be an IBM	Feb 21 00:00
cubexyz	I think not	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	intel is heavily developing systemd	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	IBM will always be around	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	they run so much of the economy	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	like Wal-Mart	Feb 21 00:00
MinceR	they've already sold most of the company	Feb 21 00:00
scientes	and euro-flight control	Feb 21 00:01
cubexyz	it's just userland stuff, anyone can do whatever they want	Feb 21 00:03
MinceR	also, kde does some horrible hack with input to work around wayland's deficiency regarding pointer warp	Feb 21 00:03
cubexyz	there's slack/390 for that matter	Feb 21 00:03
MinceR	but apparently horrible hacks are cool now	Feb 21 00:04
scientes	MinceR, are you aware of how X11 support compositing window managers?	Feb 21 00:05
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scientes	its a GIANT hack	Feb 21 00:05
MinceR	i am aware of it	Feb 21 00:05
MinceR	and i'm not using a compositing window manager	Feb 21 00:05
MinceR	and it's still not as much of a hack as what i mentioned above	Feb 21 00:05
MinceR	but apparently the wayland way of fixing things is breaking them even more, and then not fixing anything	Feb 21 00:06
cubexyz	sorry, but the Unix traditionalists won't switch to systemd	Feb 21 00:08
cubexyz	you'll just see a mass exodus to alternative systems	Feb 21 00:10
scientes	except systemd is more unix than what came before it	Feb 21 00:11
scientes	it supports multiseat for example	Feb 21 00:11
cubexyz	you're just trolling	Feb 21 00:11
scientes	and now we finially have a proper IPC with kdbus	Feb 21 00:12
MinceR	multiseat is a lame excuse to force systemd on us, and it doesn't even work	Feb 21 00:12
scientes	whatever, are you contributing?	Feb 21 00:12
scientes	then shut up	Feb 21 00:12
MinceR	no, you shut up	Feb 21 00:12
cubexyz	fuck off loser :)	Feb 21 00:12
scientes	those that do the work make the decisions	Feb 21 00:12
__martin__	lmao	Feb 21 00:12
scientes	thats just the way it works	Feb 21 00:12
cubexyz	you don't even know me	Feb 21 00:12
scientes	true	Feb 21 00:12
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cubexyz	I just released a new Unix v5 a week ago	Feb 21 00:13
scientes	sry for being an ass	Feb 21 00:13
cubexyz	you're lucky I'm not Sokolov, he would have kicked you	Feb 21 00:15
cubexyz	but whatever, everyone has an opinion	Feb 21 00:15
scientes	i was programming but i got frustrated	Feb 21 00:16
scientes	with the #define linux thing	Feb 21 00:17
cubexyz	oh that	Feb 21 00:17
MinceR	have you tried #undef linux? :>	Feb 21 00:17
cubexyz	guys, I feel I should point out that there's lots of architectures out there	Feb 21 00:17
cubexyz	we are not all x86	Feb 21 00:18
scientes	I was developing systemd on ARM for a while	Feb 21 00:18
MinceR	indeed, i'm typing this on armv6 :>	Feb 21 00:18
scientes	armv7	Feb 21 00:18
scientes	and i fixed the gold linker on armv5	Feb 21 00:18
cubexyz	if you like systemd fine, but don't shove it out everyone's throat	Feb 21 00:18
cubexyz	some of us use Vax and PDP-11	Feb 21 00:18
MinceR	what i don't get is why don't the systemd/wayland crowd just shut up and use windows already	Feb 21 00:18
MinceR	it's "designed" around the principles they apparently love so much	Feb 21 00:19
scientes	MinceR, what is wrong with kdbus?	Feb 21 00:19
MinceR	it doesn't belong in the kernel	Feb 21 00:19
MinceR	it worked as fine as it ever will in userspace	Feb 21 00:19
scientes	every other os has an in-kernel IPC	Feb 21 00:19
MinceR	so does gnu/linux	Feb 21 00:19
scientes	not true	Feb 21 00:19
MinceR	several	Feb 21 00:19
scientes	now it is zero-copy	Feb 21 00:19
MinceR	unix domain sockets, mutexes, semaphores	Feb 21 00:20
MinceR	shared memory	Feb 21 00:20
scientes	but shared memory is insecure	Feb 21 00:20
scientes	the new memfd stuff makes shared memory secure	Feb 21 00:20
MinceR	good thing the crap poettering codes up is secure	Feb 21 00:20
MinceR	oh wait	Feb 21 00:20
MinceR	systemd is full of holes	Feb 21 00:20
scientes	I was amazed that we havn't had an unaligned memory access bug yet	Feb 21 00:21
MinceR	with these people at the wheel, we will	Feb 21 00:21
MinceR	just like now we have null pointer dereferences in pid1	Feb 21 00:21
scientes	thats true	Feb 21 00:21
scientes	pid 1 does a hell of alot	Feb 21 00:22
scientes	its over a megabyte	Feb 21 00:22
MinceR	and while they're trying to force dbus into the kernel, they'll take VT support out of the kernel	Feb 21 00:22
scientes	yep	Feb 21 00:22
scientes	but that wont be in pid 1	Feb 21 00:22
MinceR	which will probably make it more difficult to recover from issues	Feb 21 00:22
scientes	but the reasons for it are sound	Feb 21 00:22
MinceR	apparently the main principle is "let's make it shittier"	Feb 21 00:22
scientes	a pid 1 crash doesn't crash the system though	Feb 21 00:23
MinceR	i doubt they'll do it in a way that will be worth it	Feb 21 00:23
scientes	so you will see be able to debug after pid 1 crashes	Feb 21 00:23
MinceR	i'd rather not have pid1 crash, and fix/restart the service that did	Feb 21 00:23
MinceR	kdbus is already said to depend on systemd	Feb 21 00:24
scientes	i've never had it crash when i wasn't hacking it	Feb 21 00:24
MinceR	so poettering finally gets what he wants: linux depending on systemd	Feb 21 00:24
scientes	kdbus does depend on systemd	Feb 21 00:24
MinceR	so much for not breaking userspace	Feb 21 00:24
scientes	AFAIK	Feb 21 00:24
cubexyz	you're forgetting that anyone can go back and just use an older version	Feb 21 00:24
MinceR	yes, and deal with a growing list of known vulnerabilities	Feb 21 00:25
MinceR	while these retards work on introducing more of them in the newest versions	Feb 21 00:25
cubexyz	some Nuclear Power stations use PDP-11's	Feb 21 00:25
cubexyz	because they know it inside and out	Feb 21 00:25
MinceR	and probably because they don't want a meltdown because poettering had a bad day	Feb 21 00:25
cubexyz	there is no X	Feb 21 00:26
cubexyz	it'	Feb 21 00:26
MinceR	why, is there X for PDP-11? :>	Feb 21 00:26
cubexyz	for Vax yes	Feb 21 00:26
cubexyz	not PDP-11	Feb 21 00:26
cubexyz	at least I've never seen it	Feb 21 00:26
__martin__	gnome os aka linuxd/minwin concerns are legitimate, thou useds live in sandboxed chrome fog these days soon to be cyanogen/minwin	Feb 21 00:27
cubexyz	X version 6 was microvax... there was never a PDP-11 X	Feb 21 00:27
cubexyz	IBM RT also	Feb 21 00:28
cubexyz	that was all started by MIT, DEC and IBM	Feb 21 00:29
cubexyz	if you know your history	Feb 21 00:29
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cubexyz	now some really smart folks ran Plan 9 but it's a research OS	Feb 21 00:30
MinceR	maybe i will too	Feb 21 00:30
MinceR	if they manage to kill unix	Feb 21 00:30
cubexyz	it was better in a lot of ways, but it doesn't support new hardware too well	Feb 21 00:30
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cubexyz	if you want traditional then run quasijarus OR run one of the BSDs like FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD	Feb 21 00:32
MinceR	afaict freebsd is running a high risk of turning into freeosx	Feb 21 00:32
MinceR	with launchd and other crApple crap	Feb 21 00:32
scientes	there was a suggestion that freebsd adopt systemd	Feb 21 00:32
cubexyz	there is no way Theo will use systemd :)	Feb 21 00:32
scientes	by one of the core developers	Feb 21 00:33
MinceR	and if all the applications start depending on systemd, even netbsd and openbsd will likely start using systemd shims or forks	Feb 21 00:33
cubexyz	ok, well that's why there are forks, so everyone gets what they want	Feb 21 00:33
cubexyz	I happen to like quasijarus but I run Linux too	Feb 21 00:33
MinceR	no, it might well be that only the people who want gratis windows will get what they want	Feb 21 00:34
MinceR	and we get to start struggling with driver support all over again, from zero	Feb 21 00:34
cubexyz	well MinceR what do you suggest?	Feb 21 00:34
MinceR	i have no idea	Feb 21 00:34
cubexyz	I can run quasijarus and fix bugs so I'm happy	Feb 21 00:34
MinceR	i never knew what to do with stupid humans (which are the vast majority)	Feb 21 00:34
cubexyz	I don't have to use every new fangled thing that people come up with	Feb 21 00:35
cubexyz	of course there are disagreements	Feb 21 00:35
MinceR	does quasijarus run on anything other than vax?	Feb 21 00:35
cubexyz	I don't go around telling people what to use, use whatever you want	Feb 21 00:35
cubexyz	it was ported to HP9000 I think	Feb 21 00:36
MinceR	i don't have any of those	Feb 21 00:37
cubexyz	Unisys 7000	Feb 21 00:37
MinceR	just pc-s, arm machines and a zx spectrum	Feb 21 00:37
cubexyz	probably other ones I don't remember what happened after 4.3BSD	Feb 21 00:37
cubexyz	microvax is cheap to get	Feb 21 00:38
cubexyz	the average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too big	Feb 21 00:38
cubexyz	the only way you will learn that stuff is if you go back into the past and learn the older versions	Feb 21 00:39
scientes	<cubexyz> the average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too big	Feb 21 00:39
scientes	exactly	Feb 21 00:39
cubexyz	there is FPGA if you want PDP-11 for modern hardware	Feb 21 00:39
cubexyz	some very interesting projects	Feb 21 00:40
scientes	thats why it is being replaced by opengl+wayland	Feb 21 00:40
scientes	and since opengl fucked up on opengl3 perhaps DX11 too	Feb 21 00:40
scientes	I just remember that i read the announcement of systemd and went "holy shit that makes sense!"	Feb 21 00:41
scientes	after having experienced the stupidity that is upstart	Feb 21 00:41
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MinceR	replacing x might be a good idea, just not with a retarded replacement	Feb 21 00:52
MinceR	as for DX11, that will never work	Feb 21 00:52
MinceR	not only is it only supported on winblows, it's also controlled by m$	Feb 21 00:52
cubexyz	just make a Xtiny or Xlight then	Feb 21 00:52
cubexyz	it's been done before	Feb 21 00:52
MinceR	trying to implement a spec m$ controls is _not_ a good idea	Feb 21 00:52
cubexyz	Xvesa I think was small	Feb 21 00:53
MinceR	and yes, upstart was stupid too	Feb 21 00:53
MinceR	with its signal abuse	Feb 21 00:53
MinceR	but there are plenty of sane init systems around	Feb 21 00:53
scientes	MinceR, they only did it cause the company that controls opengl bailed on their promise of a modern api	Feb 21 00:53
scientes	Kronos	Feb 21 00:53
scientes	like systemd	Feb 21 00:53
MinceR	systemd is supposed to be a "modern api"?	Feb 21 00:53
scientes	i was talking about DX11	Feb 21 00:54
MinceR	no, systemd is not sane	Feb 21 00:54
MinceR	its scope is sprawling, it's overly complex and it puts a lot of shoddy code in pid1	Feb 21 00:54
scientes	what is so horrible about it?	Feb 21 00:54
MinceR	and it's designed to be impossible to replace	Feb 21 00:54
MinceR	oh, and to be non-portable	Feb 21 00:54
scientes	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL#Longs_Peak_and_OpenGL_3.0_controversy	Feb 21 00:54
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MinceR	if sysvinit was designed like systemd, it would be impossible to replace sysvinit with systemd	Feb 21 00:55
scientes	but software portability isn't the big thing, hardware portability is	Feb 21 00:55
MinceR	the average programmer can't know all of systemd	Feb 21 00:55
scientes	and systemd should work on any 32-bit processor with a MMU	Feb 21 00:56
MinceR	maybe it isn't to you	Feb 21 00:56
MinceR	but of course, systemd fans don't recognize any use cases outside their own	Feb 21 00:56
cubexyz	some folks still use RT-11 for that matter	Feb 21 00:56
MinceR	they're stuck in their little bubble of windows and macos running on pc	Feb 21 00:56
cubexyz	they don't even need a multi-user OS	Feb 21 00:56
cubexyz	RTOS for stuff that has to be responsive	Feb 21 00:58
scientes	here is something crazy: I was contemplating a multi-threaded pid 1	Feb 21 00:59
MinceR	here's something less crazy: run the minimum amount of code needed in pid1	Feb 21 01:05
cubexyz	that would be Unix v7 or before	Feb 21 01:06
cubexyz	completely easy to understand too	Feb 21 01:06
MinceR	even this could suffice:	Feb 21 01:06
MinceR	int main(void) { if (fork()) while (1) wait(NULL); else execl("/etc/rc", "rc", NULL); }	Feb 21 01:07
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cubexyz	I said it before... write MincerOS :)	Feb 21 01:07
MinceR	maybe that will be my new hobby	Feb 21 01:07
MinceR	(that oneliner wasn't written by me, btw)	Feb 21 01:07
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/original-unix-v5-init.c.txt	Feb 21 01:07
cubexyz	you still need a way to go back and forth from single to multi-user mode	Feb 21 01:09
cubexyz	and update wtmp of course	Feb 21 01:09
MinceR	the service manager can handle the runlevel-like stuff	Feb 21 01:10
MinceR	which would be started by /etc/rc	Feb 21 01:10
cubexyz	well, maybe you would do things differently from Thompson	Feb 21 01:10
MinceR	i'm not sure how wtmp works	Feb 21 01:11
cubexyz	it's just a binary file used by ac	Feb 21 01:11
cubexyz	maybe new Linux doesn't have that nowdays	Feb 21 01:11
cubexyz	keeps track of user's connection time	Feb 21 01:11
MinceR	looks like wtmp doesn't need to be handled in pid1 either	Feb 21 01:11
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cubexyz	it also reads /etc/getty to know how many init processes to spawn	Feb 21 01:14
MinceR	which could be done by the service manager	Feb 21 01:14
MinceR	something like runit, perhaps	Feb 21 01:15
MinceR	gn	Feb 21 01:15
*scientes thinks using a DAG for system services makes things less painful		Feb 21 01:15
scientes	and that anything else is insane	Feb 21 01:15
cubexyz	or rather reads /etc/ttys	Feb 21 01:15
MinceR	even a DAG doesn't have to be implemented in pid1	Feb 21 01:15
MinceR	and also doesn't need a DNS proxy built in	Feb 21 01:15
MinceR	or a uefi bootloader	Feb 21 01:16
scientes	gummiboot is not part of systemd	Feb 21 01:16
MinceR	it is now!	Feb 21 01:16
scientes	its just developed by Kay Sievers	Feb 21 01:16
scientes	and the patch i am working on right now does bring in it's BootLoaderSpec	Feb 21 01:16
scientes	for kexec	Feb 21 01:16
MinceR	here's a little article to read for alleged software developers who believe systemd is well designed >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_%28computer_science%29	Feb 21 01:17
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cubexyz	it's not hard to improve upon the status quo	Feb 21 01:17
MinceR	of course, any proper software engineering course includes discussion of cohesion	Feb 21 01:17
MinceR	but apparently nobody at red hat finished such a course	Feb 21 01:18
cubexyz	reduced module complexity, that describes early Unix	Feb 21 01:19
cubexyz	that's why the MIT OS design course uses a modernized Unix v6	Feb 21 01:19
MinceR	not shoving unrelated stuff into modules, i think that describes unix too	Feb 21 01:19
MinceR	rather, not shoving unrelated stuff into the same module, i think that describes unix too	Feb 21 01:19
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cubexyz	actually Kernighan and Pike criticized 4.2BSD and System V	Feb 21 01:22
cubexyz	in their opinion, 4.2BSD was already a departure from true Unix	Feb 21 01:22
MinceR	not as much as Lendows is	Feb 21 01:23
scientes	lol	Feb 21 01:23
scientes	the true unix: "return 0"	Feb 21 01:23
scientes	oh "return 0;"	Feb 21 01:23
MinceR	that would be /bin/true	Feb 21 01:23
scientes	no then you violate SCO's copyright claims on unix	Feb 21 01:23
cubexyz	I talked to Mcllroy about it... but what are you going to do?	Feb 21 01:24
MinceR	i thought SCO's alleged claims have been dismissed ages ago	Feb 21 01:24
scientes	you have to make it a c program	Feb 21 01:24
MinceR	even m$ seemed to give up on handing another bucket of money to SCO to warm up the FUD	Feb 21 01:24
scientes	systemd doesn't really use coreutils	Feb 21 01:24
MinceR	of course	Feb 21 01:24
cubexyz	Linux is (quoting) "in a disheartening state of obesity"	Feb 21 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux clockpocalypse in 2038 is looming and	Feb 21 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	there's no 'serious plan'	Feb 21 01:25
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MinceR	systemd doesn't really use anything, except the kernel, but they're working on getting rid of the kernel too	Feb 21 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mac Asay against convergence	Feb 21 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/drdJTmuoGv (www.techrepublic.com)	Feb 21 01:25
TweetTuxMachines	some legitimate points there	Feb 21 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why you should consider cloud-hosted Linux	Feb 21 01:25
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scientes	"cloud"	Feb 21 01:25
scientes	what the fuck does "cloud" mean anyways?	Feb 21 01:25
scientes	what a load of marketing gibberish	Feb 21 01:25
MinceR	it means "just hand your data and code over to us and everything will be fine, trust us"	Feb 21 01:25
MinceR	mac asay should have waited with the United Linux thing, it may yet happen in the form of Lendows	Feb 21 01:26
MinceR	it won't be worth using of course, but it will be	Feb 21 01:26
MinceR	it will exist, for a while	Feb 21 01:27
cubexyz	there's no united anything though	Feb 21 01:27
scientes	systemd is unifying linux	Feb 21 01:27
MinceR	united in the quest for the useless shiny	Feb 21 01:27
MinceR	united in idiocracy	Feb 21 01:27
scientes	it brings the linux development model to userspace	Feb 21 01:27
scientes	now we just need subsystemd maintainers	Feb 21 01:28
MinceR	well, at least we'll know if the kernel is this crap too	Feb 21 01:28
MinceR	also, a while ago torvalds said that linux didn't break userspace	Feb 21 01:29
MinceR	systemd never followed that	Feb 21 01:29
MinceR	though they did say they won't break udev for non-systemd cases	Feb 21 01:29
MinceR	(a lie, of course)	Feb 21 01:29
scientes	http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InterfaceStabilityPromise/	Feb 21 01:29
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MinceR	not the same thing	Feb 21 01:30
scientes	lol libwrap is gone	Feb 21 01:30
scientes	and that mentions libwra	Feb 21 01:30
MinceR	promises made by the cancerd cult aren't worth the bits they're written on	Feb 21 01:31
scientes	pid 1 is 1.4 MiB	Feb 21 01:31
scientes	its huge	Feb 21 01:31
MinceR	1.4 MiB of null pointer dereferences and remote holes?	Feb 21 01:32
scientes	sz == 8 \|\| (value < (1ULL << (sz*8)))	Feb 21 01:34
scientes	why does it have that string in the binary?	Feb 21 01:34
MinceR	i have no idea, maybe it's an assert or something	Feb 21 01:34
scientes	yeah but that would be compiled	Feb 21 01:34
scientes	perhaps thats the way assert gets compiled	Feb 21 01:34
MinceR	sure, but it prints an error message with the expression	Feb 21 01:35
MinceR	iirc	Feb 21 01:35
scientes	ahh yes	Feb 21 01:35
scientes	lol http://paste.debian.net/153527/	Feb 21 01:36
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msb	I'm not totally up on this stuff, but it seems to me the main problem with eliminating systemd is the apps that use it. An init system, udev, etc., can be done as it is today. So how do apps use systemd? And can they be satisfied with a fairly simple systemd-shim (which will not run in PID1 of course). Is there an explanation somewhere of exactly what the current systemd-shim does?	Feb 21 06:24
cubexyz	one doesn't need to eliminate any apps	Feb 21 06:26
cubexyz	I'll just use wheezy, or slackware, or one of the BSDs	Feb 21 06:26
cubexyz	or something derived from wheezy, or something derived from slackware	Feb 21 06:26
msb	I don't want to eliminate any apps. I want the up-to-date apps, that use systemd, to be able to run without it.	Feb 21 06:27
cubexyz	the display manager maybe	Feb 21 06:32
msb	Wiki says that slackware has no "public code repository". What does that mean? And it all depends on one guy.	Feb 21 06:32
msb	I want to stay with Linux because it is a great human endevor and should not be allowed to be sabotaged by RH/US/NWO.	Feb 21 06:33
cubexyz	it's like I tried to explain earlier	Feb 21 06:34
msb	Sorry, maybe I missed it or didn't understand.	Feb 21 06:34
cubexyz	from my point of view I'm just going to use an earlier pre-systemd distro or I'll use slackware or OpenBSD	Feb 21 06:35
cubexyz	that's what I'm doing now... and in addition to that I research historical Unix	Feb 21 06:35
msb	Right, but I'm asking help with my point of view.	Feb 21 06:35
msb	What is the display manager, please?	Feb 21 06:35
cubexyz	kdm or gdm	Feb 21 06:36
msb	That's now in systemd too?	Feb 21 06:36
cubexyz	ummm, it might be now, I'm not sure about that	Feb 21 06:37
cubexyz	there's xdm if you want something different	Feb 21 06:37
msb	But apps run after k/gdm chooses a DE and starts X. How do apps depend on dm?	Feb 21 06:37
cubexyz	strictly speaking the applications don't need a dm	Feb 21 06:38
cubexyz	the display manager just does stuff like move the focus, and move windows around	Feb 21 06:38
cubexyz	sometimes I don't even run a dm at all	Feb 21 06:39
cubexyz	I'm running kdm on vector	Feb 21 06:39
cubexyz	but that's kdm from kde 3.5.10	Feb 21 06:40
cubexyz	so no systemd	Feb 21 06:40
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msb	I thought it was the window manager that moves windows around, etc.	Feb 21 06:41
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msb	I want to find a non-systemd that will work for most people -- for humanity.	Feb 21 06:43
cubexyz	ok, this is dependent on a few things... and it depends on which way things are set up	Feb 21 06:43
cubexyz	ok, really with KDE 3.5.10 there are two things: kdm and kwin	Feb 21 06:44
msb	So it should be Linux, and should be up to date, and well maintained.	Feb 21 06:44
cubexyz	but sometimes there's only one thing: icewm	Feb 21 06:44
cubexyz	so on openbsd I login via text login	Feb 21 06:45
cubexyz	there's no gui login	Feb 21 06:45
msb	So icewm comes up and asks you to select a DE (or console mode)?	Feb 21 06:45
cubexyz	no	Feb 21 06:45
cubexyz	I'm starting completely in text mode	Feb 21 06:45
cubexyz	I start icewm via a script	Feb 21 06:45
cubexyz	that starts X and icewm	Feb 21 06:46
cubexyz	so there's no gui login :)	Feb 21 06:46
cubexyz	I'm already logged in via text login	Feb 21 06:46
msb	OK, but if one wants to select among multiple DEs, one needs K/G/XDM, right? Or a script to do it. I forgot about the login, but the DMs do that too. In any case, I don't think apps would access the	Feb 21 06:47
cubexyz	ok, now on other distros it could be set up differently	Feb 21 06:47
msb	DM.	Feb 21 06:47
cubexyz	well I could just write multiple scripts for each wm	Feb 21 06:48
cubexyz	if you give me a second I can check what AntiX does	Feb 21 06:49
cubexyz	it's in another room	Feb 21 06:49
msb	OK. Back to the apps. I read that goddamn systemd will necessitate changing apps to keep up with it (churning apps). So how and why do apps access/need systemd?	Feb 21 06:49
msb	Obviously you don't need a heater in winter. 8^)	Feb 21 06:50
msb	I wish that scientes POS was here to explain.	Feb 21 06:51
cubexyz	I think antix uses slim for the gui login	Feb 21 06:56
cubexyz	the application shouldn't care if you run sysvinit or whatever	Feb 21 06:57
cubexyz	the init controls the apps	Feb 21 06:58
msb	So how does systemd "churn" apps?	Feb 21 06:58
cubexyz	it's like dependencies like library versions, same as always	Feb 21 07:00
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cubexyz	if systemd gets new libraries, they have to work with the existing applications	Feb 21 07:00
msb	If devuan has an init system, udev, etc, that doesn't use systemd, can it then use the normal debian repos?	Feb 21 07:00
msb	for apps?	Feb 21 07:01
cubexyz	that's speculative	Feb 21 07:01
cubexyz	we don't even have devuan yet	Feb 21 07:02
cubexyz	who knows :)	Feb 21 07:02
msb	This is a major tragedy, from the social viewpoint.	Feb 21 07:03
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msb	I _am_ a conspiracy theorist, and I know one when I see one.	Feb 21 07:03
cubexyz	ok, obviously I don't agree with you-know-who	Feb 21 07:04
msb	who?	Feb 21 07:04
cubexyz	the pro-systemd folks	Feb 21 07:04
msb	I'm just hoping it's a tragedy with a technical fix.	Feb 21 07:05
cubexyz	really this has happened before with 4.3BSD and System V	Feb 21 07:06
cubexyz	it's a similar schism	Feb 21 07:06
msb	I doubt that was done by the ruling psychopaths to control the world's population, like this is.	Feb 21 07:07
cubexyz	BSD init vs SysV init	Feb 21 07:07
cubexyz	it's not just me saying thumbs down to systemd	Feb 21 07:08
msb	I know. I have lots of articles and websites about that.	Feb 21 07:08
cubexyz	print this out:	Feb 21 07:09
cubexyz	http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installation	Feb 21 07:09
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msb	The problem is that the major distros have swallowed it, from stupidity, bribes, or threats.	Feb 21 07:09
cubexyz	there's lots of classic distros which I mentioned earlier, that will never use systemd	Feb 21 07:09
msb	I saw that, but it has very few major distros.	Feb 21 07:10
cubexyz	quasijarus, Research Unix, Plan 9, the BSDs, etc	Feb 21 07:10
msb	But classic distros are out of date regarding security holes, new media formats, etc.	Feb 21 07:10
cubexyz	but I can say the same thing about the new distros :)	Feb 21 07:10
msb	How so?	Feb 21 07:11
cubexyz	they don't support my hardware, and they have _new_ bugs	Feb 21 07:11
msb	Very few people have your old hardware.	Feb 21 07:11
msb	And new bugs will get fixed.	Feb 21 07:11
cubexyz	anyways, I'm not really that worried. That guy was just trying to bother people	Feb 21 07:12
cubexyz	I don't even think he seriously believes the stuff he was saying	Feb 21 07:12
msb	I don't care about him.	Feb 21 07:14
cubexyz	folks can run the old stuff forever if they want	Feb 21 07:14
msb	The human race needs Linux, and systemd will destroy it.	Feb 21 07:14
cubexyz	using FPGAs or emulators, or by fixing old hardware	Feb 21 07:14
cubexyz	I spent over 10 years updating FC1	Feb 21 07:15
msb	The old stuff doesn't handle new media formats, Android, and other stuff to be invented.	Feb 21 07:15
msb	The public doesn't use FPGAs and emulators are slow.	Feb 21 07:15
msb	I am looking for a solution for everybody, not just you.	Feb 21 07:15
cubexyz	most people don't even understand the OS that's on their computer	Feb 21 07:17
cubexyz	FPGAs are good... you could make your own CPU :)	Feb 21 07:18
msb	Most people don[t even know they are using an OS.	Feb 21 07:18
msb	I'm fine with an AMD 8-core -- much faster.	Feb 21 07:18
cubexyz	personally I think Linux is too bloated and complicated	Feb 21 07:19
cubexyz	AntiX did a decent job pruning it down	Feb 21 07:19
cubexyz	OpenBSD is relatively lean	Feb 21 07:20
msb	Doesn;t matter. Any PC today has GBs of RAM.	Feb 21 07:21
cubexyz	I don't use bluetooth, or sunrpc or nfs etc	Feb 21 07:21
cubexyz	it sure does matter if you want to try to understand it	Feb 21 07:22
cubexyz	look at MIT's courseware for OS design	Feb 21 07:22
cubexyz	but everybody's different	Feb 21 07:23
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cubexyz	that guy just parrots the same crap over and over	Feb 21 07:25
cubexyz	"who cares"	Feb 21 07:25
cubexyz	I care	Feb 21 07:25
cubexyz	emulated PDP-11 is quite fast	Feb 21 07:29
cubexyz	way faster than the fastest PDP-11 ever made	Feb 21 07:29
cubexyz	init is just a way to get things started, run some gettys, turn things off and on	Feb 21 07:30
msb	How fast compared to an AMD FX-8350?	Feb 21 07:31
cubexyz	it's just a hosted OS... so it's speed depends on how fast the host is	Feb 21 07:39
cubexyz	in my case a P3 is fast enough to run any PDP-11 OS quite well	Feb 21 07:39
cubexyz	if I put it on a FX-8350 it would be a lot faster I'm sure	Feb 21 07:40
msb	I'm talking about speed for playing x265s, transcoding, and video editing.	Feb 21 07:40
msb	not running the OS.	Feb 21 07:41
msb	Again, I am looking for a solution for everyone, not just techies.	Feb 21 07:42
cubexyz	I don't think everyone does those things either	Feb 21 07:42
msb	Everyone now views x265s.	Feb 21 07:42
msb	And lots of people edit videos.	Feb 21 07:42
msb	You seem to be recommending that people get an FPGA and run PDP11 on it, just so they can run an old Unix that will not handle modern media formats, etc. Does not make sense to me.	Feb 21 07:44
cubexyz	I only mentioned FPGAs to point out that when old hardware dies, people can still run on the old Unix on the FPGA	Feb 21 07:46
cubexyz	if they want to do that	Feb 21 07:46
cubexyz	it's perfectly valid for businesses that need to replace legacy hardware	Feb 21 07:47
cubexyz	joe blow isn't going to listen to me anyways	Feb 21 07:48
cubexyz	I'm sure if I wanted to I buy some appropriate computer hardware to edit videos	Feb 21 07:49
cubexyz	I wouldn't use a PDP-11 for that obviously	Feb 21 07:49
msb	I'm talking about average people. They want a fast general purpose desktop or laptop for doing everything.	Feb 21 07:50
msb	Up to date, easy to use, not microshit.	Feb 21 07:51
cubexyz	microshit?	Feb 21 07:51
msb	Microfuckshitpiss	Feb 21 07:51
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schestowitz	"Stuff like this is why I think they suicided Ilya Zhitomirskiy."	Feb 21 08:36
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schestowitz	"There's nothing potent about Microsoft's "cloud". Bing, Skype, Outlook are miserable failures like everything else Microsoft touches. Idiot news sources like Fobes said the same kinds of silly things when Microsoft subjugated Yahoo, but it went no where. Microsoft's corruption of Cyanogenmod is one or two orders of magnitude less important than that."	Feb 21 08:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Editorial: Linux Gaming Will Be Fine Even	Feb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines	Without Steam Machines Succeeding	Feb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/70OIH8cWZR (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrssv	Feb 21 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Editorial: Linux Gaming Will Be Fine Even Without Steam Machines Succeeding \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wayland/Weston 1.7.0 Make It For Ubuntu 15.04	Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ToxJbSnkBC (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsxo	Feb 21 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Wayland/Weston 1.7.0 Make It For Ubuntu 15.04 - Phoronix		Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app	Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	prevalence http://t.co/2PqaWZsjj8	Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	(searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com) "Windows	Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	applications are a hurdle"	Feb 21 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com \| Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app prevalence		Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsxp	Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux	Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	3.20/4.0? http://t.co/MUIpJfxKfd	Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) http://t.co/EtfTrQMF2J	Feb 21 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux 3.20/4.0? - Phoronix		Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Code Merged This Week For Linux 3.20/4.0 Is Just As Exciting As Last Week - Phoronix		Feb 21 12:32
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569114703294803970	Feb 21 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz #LibreOffice user here. Great news! Any word on #Kompozer? It's still the best OS web design tool I know.		Feb 21 12:44
schestowitz	I have not heard about it for years	Feb 21 12:44
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569116109099679744	Feb 21 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Development has stalled since 2007. I wonder if the issue is funding?		Feb 21 12:49
schestowitz	probably a contributing factor	Feb 21 12:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569117059642212352	Feb 21 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Have they considered crowdfunding? I would certainly help to publicise it by sharing on my social media accounts and blog.		Feb 21 12:55
schestowitz	Worth working towards if you can get in touch with the devs (probably moved on in their lives)	Feb 21 12:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118572515106817	Feb 21 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz That's the problem; web design ends up being restricted to pretentious Adobe Creative Suite users who don't know what "code"...		Feb 21 13:00
schestowitz	Why not use CMS with integrated WYSIWYG?	Feb 21 13:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118773397090305	Feb 21 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz ...means. If it's not W3C compliant you lose me at "Hello."		Feb 21 13:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569119752246988800	Feb 21 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz I do. And it's better and easier. However, if you don't understand how it actually works you can't deliver the results you want		Feb 21 13:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569120051590250497	Feb 21 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz which is why I always advocate learning to build from scratch. You can take shortcuts later when you understand what you cut.		Feb 21 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default	Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet	Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/98MbviM4E3 (www.webupd8.org)	Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrt8j	Feb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org \| Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog		Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10	Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GmB2UB3JpQ (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrt8k	Feb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 - Softpedia		Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on Steam	Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	for Linux http://t.co/BlXHvVM7f7	Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on Steam for Linux - Softpedia		Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrt8l	Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	coolest Android phone ever?	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xrgrvcmkz0 (www.networkworld.com)	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrta8	Feb 21 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the coolest Android phone ever? \| Network World		Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra Secure	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	Messaging App	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/y1tftc6U0t (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrta9	Feb 21 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra Secure Messaging App - Softpedia		Feb 21 13:35
MinceR	geekings	Feb 21 13:39
MinceR	the zero-copy scientes mentioned was yet another poor excuse: "Lennart said that it works better to simply copy anything that is less than about 512KB" http://lwn.net/Articles/580194/	Feb 21 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| The unveiling of kdbus [LWN.net]		Feb 21 14:03
XRevan86	schestowitz: rss2sn	Feb 21 14:11
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*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra...'		Feb 21 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now Has	Feb 21 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	Better ODT Format Support	Feb 21 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BxcNGHunvs (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtka	Feb 21 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now Has Better ODT Format Support - Softpedia		Feb 21 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On Linux	Feb 21 14:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/d7oMel58D3 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtkb	Feb 21 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Many new LTS releases of gnu linux	Feb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xUM41MpuIG (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OJMjOSWO6i (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Edubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Has Been Officially Released - Softpedia		Feb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/S5ihB7PPrH (www.kubuntu.org)	Feb 21 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Kubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released, Users Can No Longer Upgrade to Plasma 5 - Softpedia		Feb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Berq4Y3nND (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtkf	Feb 21 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kubuntu.org \| Kubuntu 14.04 LTS Update Out \| Kubuntu		Feb 21 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Arrives with Linux Kernel 3.16 - Softpedia		Feb 21 14:25
schestowitz	wow. sites of gun nuts http://www.ammoland.com/2015/02/america-in-distress-have-we-reached-the-tipping-point/#axzz3SOHBFUcr	Feb 21 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ammoland.com \| America In Distress - Have We Reached The Tipping Point? [ http://ur1.ca/jrtmm ]		Feb 21 14:34
MinceR	more like republican wingnuts	Feb 21 14:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: Update	Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	Coming http://t.co/acLhZSon3t	Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.latinospost.com) http://t.co/FJNFeRE7wL	Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latinospost.com \| Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: Update Coming to Motorola Devices After Nexus & HTC? : Tech : Latinos Post		Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ibtimes.co.uk)	Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtn6	Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Android 5.1 Lollipop release date confirmed for HTC One M7 GPE, Nexus devices to follow soon		Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.37 Adds UTF-7 Encoding, Interface	Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	Change Notifications http://t.co/NAXVi9Tuof	Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3Gl10yGKiS (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Wine 1.7.37 Adds UTF-7 Encoding, Interface Change Notifications - Phoronix		Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4ratRZn0Sy (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support, Fixes 71 Bugs - Softpedia		Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtn7	Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Wine Development Release 1.7.37 Is Now Available \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 21 14:36
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636970	Feb 21 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/locally-integrated-menus-lim-set-as.html #ubuntu #linux		Feb 21 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.webupd8.org \| Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog [ http://ur1.ca/jrtnr ]		Feb 21 14:38
schestowitz	"Good!"	Feb 21 14:38
schestowitz	"As long as global can be configured :)"	Feb 21 14:38
schestowitz	"I don't find this feature particularly convenient. Probably the idea of some Apple fanboy inside Canonical. :P But yes it is good to have options."	Feb 21 14:38
schestowitz	One can install KDE on top as Ubuntu, as I often do..	Feb 21 14:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636961	Feb 21 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lendows or Lennux can be avoided http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installation		Feb 21 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> without-systemd.org \| Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jmy5s ]		Feb 21 14:39
schestowitz	"What distro are you using?"	Feb 21 14:39
schestowitz	Debian and Kubuntu	Feb 21 14:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636755	Feb 21 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ClipperChip/status/568912218412216321		Feb 21 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ClipperChip: .@ggreenwald EU: “We demand answers!” US: “The answers you seek are in another castle.” – EU: "Oh, okay." http://t.co/Ut3PMO4fb1		Feb 21 14:39
schestowitz	"These are not the answers you're looking for"	Feb 21 14:39
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msb	schestowitz: I think the non-systemd solution has to be: 1. a major distro, or one that uses the repos of one, so it has lots of support 2. not source code or run by one person (slackware funtoo gentoo) 3. is up to date and continually modernized, so it supports new games, media formats, etc. 4. is Linux, not *bsd, because Linux is vital for humanity.	Feb 21 15:39
msb	There are only 15 people in the PCLinuxOS IRC support channel, compared to 288 in the Suse channel.	Feb 21 15:59
MinceR	maybe suse needs that much more support	Feb 21 16:00
msb	No. PCLOS is created by one person.	Feb 21 16:00
XRevan86	MinceR: No, PCLinuxOS is really unpopular.	Feb 21 16:00
msb	XRevan86: Do you know why?	Feb 21 16:01
XRevan86	msb: Not really.	Feb 21 16:01
XRevan86	msb: I did look at it but quickly dropped it since repos are very small.	Feb 21 16:01
msb	So there is no distro suitable for the general public in that without-systemd.org list.	Feb 21 16:02
XRevan86	"Trisquel GNU/Linux" сan be removed from that list, by the way	Feb 21 16:03
msb	Suse was very well designed before it adopted systemd. It has lots of support.	Feb 21 16:03
XRevan86	since systemd will be in Trisquel 8.0 (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS)	Feb 21 16:04
msb	Damn!	Feb 21 16:04
msb	I guess we have to pray for Devuan.	Feb 21 16:04
XRevan86	Point Linux is Debian-based.	Feb 21 16:04
XRevan86	Pardus is Debian-based and also sucks a lot	Feb 21 16:05
XRevan86	msb: Pisi Linux is nice but repos are small, too :)	Feb 21 16:05
XRevan86	msb: They also did write there own init system.	Feb 21 16:06
msb	I figure if I haven't heard of it it's too small to be reliable.	Feb 21 16:06
XRevan86	msb: Have you heard about pardus?	Feb 21 16:06
MinceR	still more reliable than Lendows	Feb 21 16:06
XRevan86	msb: before it became a useless Debian derivate	Feb 21 16:07
msb	No.	Feb 21 16:07
XRevan86	Pisi Linux is a fork of Pardus	Feb 21 16:07
msb	None of these obscure distros is going to have much support, or can be counted on to be maintained for years.	Feb 21 16:08
msb	And if one run by one person becomes very popular, he'll probably be killed in a hunting accident by 87 stray bullets and a hand-grenade.	Feb 21 16:09
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msb	I'm not looking for one for myself so much, but for the general public, so they can use it before the systemd distros turn to shit.	Feb 21 16:12
msb	Alternate mode of death for people who oppose the fascist system: suicide by shooting oneself in the head twice.	Feb 21 16:14
msb	Goddess protect the Devuan people!	Feb 21 16:16
msb	VectorLinux has 13 people in its IRC.	Feb 21 16:32
MinceR	salix has 16	Feb 21 16:33
__martin__	holy shiet	Feb 21 16:33
__martin__	had no clue pentagon was this far	Feb 21 16:33
__martin__	"The research is based on extracting narratives from millions of American, Iranian and Chinese weblogs, and subjecting them to automated discourse analysis to compare them quantitatively across the three languages. The investigators then follow up using behavioral experiments with readers/listeners from different cultures to gauge their reaction different narratives “where each story makes an appe	Feb 21 16:33
__martin__	al to a sacred value to explain or justify a morally-questionable behavior of the author.” Finally, the scientists apply neurobiological fMRI scanning to correlate the reactions and personal characteristics of subjects with their brain responses."	Feb 21 16:33
msb	Wow, talk about "morally questionable"!	Feb 21 16:35
msb	So, based on that analysis, they automatically brew up a virus that kills the part of the person's brain that opposes the rulers.	Feb 21 16:36
msb	And deliver it to him by a drone.	Feb 21 16:36
msb	Of course if they're using fMRI they already have him.	Feb 21 16:37
__martin__	at least the main villain in the marvel's latest sci-fi blockbuster "jupiter ascending" copies the looks of young bill gates excellently so people can count one plus one and join the partial truths about him lol	Feb 21 16:46
__martin__	[directors = trangender matrix creators]	Feb 21 16:47
__martin__	trans*	Feb 21 16:47
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schestowitz	XRevan86: fork?	Feb 21 17:46
schestowitz	I think successor?	Feb 21 17:46
schestowitz	Or rename	Feb 21 17:46
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XRevan86	schestowitz: I can really say "successor" since something is still living with a name Pardus	Feb 21 17:50
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5637005	Feb 21 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #avg on 'malware' that "requires an Android device to be “rooted”" and for use to install it http://www.pcworld.com/article/2886932/android-malware-fakes-phone-shutdown-to-steal-data.html		Feb 21 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com \| Android malware fakes phone shutdown to steal your data \| PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jruta ]		Feb 21 17:51
schestowitz	"A scare piece against rooting your phone and/or using app stores like F-Droid?"	Feb 21 17:51
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__martin__	yep, like garret's secure boot apologism	Feb 21 17:52
MinceR	more like a piece of FUD against android, imo	Feb 21 17:52
MinceR	it's from IDG, after all	Feb 21 17:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5629974	Feb 21 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/568579388817735680		Feb 21 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: There is nobody on earth who has exploited 9/11 more frequently, shamelessly and self-servingly than Rudy Giuliani http://t.co/SAnRpC2tVc		Feb 21 17:52
schestowitz	"lol First person to say "9/11" nine-hundred and eleven times in one 10 min speech gets to legally change his name 9/11..."	Feb 21 17:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/roppert/status/569192299680428033	Feb 21 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@roppert: @schestowitz @teirdes Never trust big corporations, no matter how or what they do to convince us. Why? Cause greed is only common motivator.		Feb 21 17:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Riz_myth/status/569193154416545792	Feb 21 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Riz_myth: Dzekoooooooo is Backkkkk 3-0 & it's only 21mins of the game played #MCINEW \| #ManCityNewcastle		Feb 21 18:08
MinceR	http://imgur.com/gallery/kBTXDYe	Feb 21 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com \| Germany's heart of gold - Imgur		Feb 21 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Creating a Community: Getting Started	Feb 21 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hzMytQB310 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 19:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrvg4	Feb 21 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Creating a Community: Getting Started \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 19:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New AMD Processors Supported By Coreboot	Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SYH9KHGWfI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrvq1	Feb 21 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New AMD Processors Supported By Coreboot \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps are	Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	almost here http://t.co/LzVrOrKDi0	Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrvq2	Feb 21 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps are almost here \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/KW5K9dSCba	Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrvq3	Feb 21 20:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 20:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636987	Feb 21 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Promotion of the 'cloud' religion has led people to not caring about #security or blindly trusting 'cloud' because "everyone's doin' it!"		Feb 21 21:42
schestowitz	"and Big Data, and the Internet of Things. All privacy disasters."	Feb 21 21:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux Distribution	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jjUzzWADEZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrwod	Feb 21 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux Distribution \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts with	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	Geocodable Addresses http://t.co/4uLQB9ZYVL	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrwog	Feb 21 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts with Geocodable Addresses \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	Workstation Pushed This Week	Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9ySAQHyAmQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22 Workstation Pushed This Week \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 22:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat announces the availability of	Feb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globally	Feb 21 23:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released with	Feb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines	Better Ubuntu Unity Support	Feb 21 23:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mir Now Depends Upon C++14	Feb 21 23:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support for	Feb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	Several RISC Microprocessor Architectures	Feb 21 23:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HD	Feb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics http://t.co/N7OF5A09rM	Feb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 23:37
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schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc8hGD8ftFA	Feb 21 23:42
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schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKQk06dqmzU	Feb 21 23:44
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schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW-IgJHM3cY	Feb 21 23:45
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DaemonFC	Apple says it will make a self-driving car.	Feb 15 00:56
DaemonFC	That means that if you end up in a country that hasn't existed in 40 years or on an airport runway, you have only yourself to blame. :)	Feb 15 00:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 36 Won't Bring Native YouTube HTML5	Feb 15 02:37
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DaemonFC	http://www.zdnet.com/article/top-android-news-of-the-week-shipments-drop-for-first-time-android-wear-shipments-not-big-royalty/	Feb 15 02:51
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DaemonFC	The other shoe drops. Samsung announces that Microsoft's bloated crapware will be integrated into the Galaxy S6 and Microsoft drops the patent lawsuits against Samsung.	Feb 15 02:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/LinuxSocist/status/566843474779992064	Feb 15 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LinuxSocist: @schestowitz The same Police that have been corrupt tactics against Freetown Christiana for the past 40 years?		Feb 15 03:14
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/onlygoodcomez/status/566891865706754049	Feb 15 05:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@onlygoodcomez: @schestowitz @HeartPowered nothing could preventd them as the plans were to be followed true to suit whoever 'planned them" #falseflags		Feb 15 05:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/566912974590205952	Feb 15 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz bullshit....covering their ass, why?...everyone knows they are War Criminals.		Feb 15 06:01
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schestowitz	http://www.universityherald.com/articles/15905/20150214/harvard-and-mit-accused-in-lawsuit-of-discriminating-against-the-deaf-in-online-courses.htm	Feb 15 07:57
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schestowitz	http://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2015/02/13/why-we-cant-trust-vladimir-putin-n1956760	Feb 15 07:59
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schestowitz	"Vladimir Putin is a gangster at the head of a criminal state. Unfortunately, Russia is a nuclear armed criminal state run by ignorant and dishonest thugs. We simply cannot rely on the Kremlin to deal in good faith or perhaps even act rationally. The threat posed by this aggressor state can’t be simply ignored, but rather must be resolutely confronted and contained. "	Feb 15 08:00
schestowitz	http://www.laprensasa.com/309_america-in-english/2945004_cuban-journalist-who-wrote-about-fidel-castro-dies.html	Feb 15 08:16
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynco/status/566959840358957056 https://twitter.com/glynco/status/566960970933624835	Feb 15 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz and torture actually makes us less safe http://t.co/QrEhMoFx0t		Feb 15 09:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz more on the voodoo science of torture designed by the modern day equivalent of snake oil salesmen http://t.co/mo32bPVwrZ		Feb 15 09:04
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schestowitz	80 million dollars	Feb 15 09:04
schestowitz	msb: #cia is now pursuing weather warfare http://marketbusinessnews.com/weaponized-weather-inquiry-alarms-rutgers-university-climate-scientist/48186 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2954051/Chill-factor-CIA-weather-query.html	Feb 15 09:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk \| Chill factor at 'cia' weather query \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jqfzg ]		Feb 15 09:51
schestowitz	not to be confused with that "chemtrail" BS	Feb 15 09:51
schestowitz	"	Feb 15 10:31
schestowitz	"As far as we are aware, the fee scheme for the Unitary Patent has not yet been officially agreed, i.e. it is still under discussion."	Feb 15 10:31
schestowitz	We attach the document without comment, in the hope that it might be of interest to you.	Feb 15 10:31
schestowitz	We forgot the attachment - but the document could be retrieved via the link we gave ... :-)	Feb 15 10:31
schestowitz	"	Feb 15 10:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JohnDiNardo/status/566982321031872513	Feb 15 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnDiNardo: @schestowitz Nétanyahou Arrangé Faux Paris Fussilade à Inciter à la Haine à l'égard des Musulmans. http://t.co/llpjSmrToh		Feb 15 10:38
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MinceR	geekings	Feb 15 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/YN8t2s8pv8	Feb 15 12:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/HVg097AnTU	Feb 15 12:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines elementary OS: is financial support the only	Feb 15 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	way to help a project grow?	Feb 15 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lGBLTuX9Va (www.linuxveda.com)	Feb 15 12:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqgtx	Feb 15 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| elementary OS: is financial support the only way to help a project grow? - Linux Veda		Feb 15 12:15
schestowitz	> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso	Feb 15 12:27
schestowitz	>	Feb 15 12:27
schestowitz	> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.asc	Feb 15 12:27
schestowitz	>	Feb 15 12:27
schestowitz	> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.sha	Feb 15 12:27
schestowitz	>	Feb 15 12:27
schestowitz	> do not use this in production, this is an internal preview (not even an	Feb 15 12:27
schestowitz	> alpha)	Feb 15 12:27
MinceR	:)	Feb 15 12:28
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5588112	Feb 15 12:32
schestowitz	"@sticks_us no, GNU people are hostile with us in fact. We are free software community but they seggregate us because of the license. We just react to this hypocrisy. I had joined in a free software activist group 1 year ago when I was a GNU fan and Debian fan, to the misfortune of them was at the same time I started getting interested in other Unix-like systems (BSD specifically), at the same time OpenBSD project was needing money to	Feb 15 12:32
schestowitz	keep the project alive or will die. I went there in IRC channel of that group there to ask to donate to OpenBSD or it could die if it did not receive donation and it is a free software project. The answer I received was: "I won't donate do a project that it's not GPL.". this is a sociopathic attitude, no empathy. After that I left the group because they did not advocate free software, just the product that they loved as fanboys. Now I	Feb 15 12:32
schestowitz	am a really skeptical and critical about this GNU community. They lie about free software."	Feb 15 12:32
schestowitz	There are legitimate reasons for FSF not to support OpenBSD. First, Theo de Raadt smears RMS. Second, UNIX is not GNU/Linux.	Feb 15 12:33
MinceR	perhaps they don't want to pay for something to be developed that is a gift to abusive corporations	Feb 15 12:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222	Feb 15 12:36
schestowitz	"http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"	Feb 15 12:36
schestowitz	proving that mass surveillance is not needed	Feb 15 12:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873	Feb 15 12:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873	Feb 15 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz ah, but they'll just say that's because there isn't enough of it :(		Feb 15 12:38
schestowitz	[17:42] <schestowitz> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222	Feb 15 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The assailant, PET the Danish Intelligence service confirmed a moment ago, was known to them." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597663 #surveillance fail		Feb 15 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #police on the ground - not mass #surveillance - secures #denmark http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_DENMARK_SHOTS_FIRED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-02-14-19-34-22		Feb 15 12:39
schestowitz	[17:42] <schestowitz> "http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"	Feb 15 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| Copenhagen shootings suspect was 'known to police' \| World news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jqgyr ]		Feb 15 12:39
schestowitz	The public will buy it	Feb 15 12:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015450534739968	Feb 15 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz more worrying is precedent that all we do/say/download should be run past 'thought police' in case is or will become 'bad'		Feb 15 12:40
schestowitz	Not because of terrorism but perhaps journalism, leaks, etc.	Feb 15 12:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015916463198210	Feb 15 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz not all of us !		Feb 15 12:43
XRevan86	I don't get it: http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux this only package in Devuan is built only for amd64	Feb 15 12:45
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XRevan86	and preaplpha is only for i386	Feb 15 12:45
XRevan86	pre-alpha*	Feb 15 12:45
XRevan86	I don't understand what this image has to offer.	Feb 15 12:46
MinceR	the iso was probably built on some developer's own machine	Feb 15 12:46
XRevan86	MinceR: Why repo is amd64-only then?	Feb 15 12:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567016422057193472	Feb 15 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz think it's about the motive & because can. The 'excuse'-war on drugs/terror/immigration/copyright violation increasingly second		Feb 15 12:46
MinceR	i don't know	Feb 15 12:46
schestowitz	indeed, and they get the data too (DEA)	Feb 15 12:47
MinceR	i don't even know if what is built by Jenkins goes into the repo linked above	Feb 15 12:47
schestowitz	me neither	Feb 15 12:47
schestowitz	MinceR: it's not a final product, far from it	Feb 15 12:47
schestowitz	but at least they build something	Feb 15 12:48
MinceR	indeed	Feb 15 12:48
XRevan86	Maybe they have some another repo?	Feb 15 12:49
XRevan86	Because… they are removing systemd-shim via ugly postinst in devuan-baseconf	Feb 15 12:50
XRevan86	and policykit-1 package requires libpam-systemd	Feb 15 12:50
XRevan86	ah, wait, I am silly, they're removing systemd-sysv	Feb 15 12:50
XRevan86	then it's okay, but still, this .iso of theirs must contain systemd	Feb 15 12:51
MinceR	i haven't installed it yet	Feb 15 12:51
XRevan86	Me neither, I'm just theorizing :)	Feb 15 12:51
cubexyz	maybe it's time for Gentoo	Feb 15 12:52
XRevan86	Xfce requires polkit, polkit requires libpam-systemd, libpam-systemd requires systemd with shim or not.	Feb 15 12:52
MinceR	gentoo can likely do things devuan won't do	Feb 15 12:52
MinceR	like removing polkit and consolekit and dependencies to them	Feb 15 12:52
XRevan86	and packages.devuan.org doesn't provide an override for it	Feb 15 12:52
MinceR	(that is, building a full system that does not include them nor depends on them)	Feb 15 12:52
XRevan86	MinceR: They won't because that's a strange thing to do.	Feb 15 12:52
MinceR	(i don't know yet how well it will work, but i'm planning to try)	Feb 15 12:53
XRevan86	what they should do is build polkit without systemd	Feb 15 12:53
MinceR	i don't think that trying to remove more of poettering & co's crappy code would be "a strange thing to do"	Feb 15 12:53
XRevan86	MinceR: And so every happy Devuan user will reboot his PC with "shutdown -r now"	Feb 15 12:54
MinceR	i don't know about "every happy devuan user"	Feb 15 12:54
MinceR	but it would be fine for me	Feb 15 12:54
XRevan86	and that's ConsoleKit	Feb 15 12:55
MinceR	certainly preferable than trying to figure out by trial and error yet again how to fix things when something like udisks2 silently dies	Feb 15 12:55
XRevan86	polkit… I don't know if one can detach it from Xfce or other DE	Feb 15 12:55
MinceR	and the documentation says nothing about how it's supposed to be started, because magic	Feb 15 12:55
MinceR	i can live without a DE	Feb 15 12:55
MinceR	the point is that in gentoo you can do stuff with dependencies that a binary distro could not easily allow you to do	Feb 15 12:56
MinceR	because there are only so many versions of the same package worth building	Feb 15 12:57
cubexyz	yes	Feb 15 12:57
XRevan86	MinceR: It also mixes builddeps with regular ones so if something requires libsystemd…	Feb 15 12:57
XRevan86	or libpulse	Feb 15 12:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/566976942327742464	Feb 15 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JesselynRadack: NYT: "Even when no idea who did #Copenhagen shootings, @twitter was ablaze w/ anti- #Muslim vitriol" http://t.co/yq3b0VS3jx #Islamophobia		Feb 15 13:01
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schestowitz	Even without footage from CCTV the choice of first target have away the religion	Feb 15 13:01
XRevan86	MinceR: Anyway, systemd is not what causes my issue with Devuan.	Feb 15 13:02
XRevan86	it's just… they called themselved Veteran UNIX Admins, they asked for donations without having a product	Feb 15 13:03
XRevan86	people advertized Devuan	Feb 15 13:03
XRevan86	and now they're doing stuff so slow I am starting to wonder if they know what they're doing	Feb 15 13:03
cubexyz	Unix traditionalists wouldn't use Linux though	Feb 15 13:03
cubexyz	they would use one of the BSDs	Feb 15 13:03
XRevan86	cubexyz: There is a special group of 'Unixers' who use OS X	Feb 15 13:04
cubexyz	sure, there's lots of groups	Feb 15 13:04
MinceR	yes, there are people who play with that toy and call it unix, even though it isn't	Feb 15 13:04
XRevan86	they tend to call themselves unixoids	Feb 15 13:04
cubexyz	there's groups for AIX and everything one can imagine	Feb 15 13:04
MinceR	and i don't particularly care who pays The "Open" Group this week for the trademark	Feb 15 13:05
XRevan86	cubexyz: I mean, a bit lot of people who call themselves users of Unix are users of OS X	Feb 15 13:05
MinceR	call an unreliable, insecure, shiny toy by any name, it will still be an unreliable, insecure, shiny toy	Feb 15 13:05
XRevan86	a big*	Feb 15 13:05
cubexyz	XRevan86, the real hackers want source code though	Feb 15 13:05
cubexyz	they like writing code, fixing it, etc	Feb 15 13:05
XRevan86	and so I suspect VUA in being ones	Feb 15 13:05
MinceR	XRevan86: there are many projects that ask for donations before their first release	Feb 15 13:06
MinceR	there's crowdfunding, for example	Feb 15 13:06
XRevan86	MinceR: These project are big and major.	Feb 15 13:06
MinceR	no, not all of them are	Feb 15 13:06
XRevan86	Devuan did nothing serious since the beginning.	Feb 15 13:06
MinceR	then don't donate to them	Feb 15 13:07
cubexyz	XRevan86, there's some pretty serious PDP-11 hackers still	Feb 15 13:07
XRevan86	MinceR: I don't, still I know people who did. I don't understand them.	Feb 15 13:07
MinceR	yeah, how dare they support a project that didn't get to its first release in one day?	Feb 15 13:08
cubexyz	MinceR, start up a crowdfunding thing for Anti-Systemd :)	Feb 15 13:08
MinceR	i don't think i need to	Feb 15 13:08
XRevan86	MinceR: s/one day/several months/;s/first release/serveral packages like patched polkit/	Feb 15 13:09
MinceR	if enough people want to maintain a debian wheezy-like reliable non-rolling non-systemd distro, that's nice and i'll use it	Feb 15 13:09
MinceR	if not, i'll just get by with bedrock and gentoo	Feb 15 13:09
MinceR	if that fails, i'll go to netbsd or whatever	Feb 15 13:09
MinceR	even if IT goes to hell, they can't prevent me from running a release that's still sane	Feb 15 13:10
cubexyz	hard to imagine every distro going systemd	Feb 15 13:10
cubexyz	I'm sure there will be some hold-outs	Feb 15 13:10
MinceR	i hope so	Feb 15 13:10
MinceR	but i don't know if it will happen	Feb 15 13:11
XRevan86	All those Devuan donations could go to Gentoo, for instance :)	Feb 15 13:14
MinceR	yeah, who needs diversity?	Feb 15 13:15
XRevan86	or if not Devuan then maybe some other group of people would do the job	Feb 15 13:15
cubexyz	I run a lot of old stuff, it's not going to disappear	Feb 15 13:15
MinceR	so it doesn't matter who does it, as long as it's not Devuan? :>	Feb 15 13:15
XRevan86	MinceR: No, you don't see my point.	Feb 15 13:15
XRevan86	Devuan had a lot of fuss, really a lot.	Feb 15 13:16
XRevan86	and a lot of donations	Feb 15 13:16
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XRevan86	and they didn't do anything worthy this attention and money	Feb 15 13:16
MinceR	i haven't seen the "fuss" and don't know how much money they got	Feb 15 13:18
XRevan86	MinceR: I've seen several pages on habrahabr about them with lots of comments	Feb 15 13:18
XRevan86	major Russian IT blogging network	Feb 15 13:19
MinceR	i don't read habrahabr	Feb 15 13:19
MinceR	and i don't understand much of russian	Feb 15 13:19
XRevan86	MinceR: Point is: Devuan got a lot of attention.	Feb 15 13:19
XRevan86	and they wanted it, just read http://debianfork.org/	Feb 15 13:20
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MinceR	on a russian website	Feb 15 13:20
XRevan86	MinceR: I read russian websites so no wonder I'm talking about them :)	Feb 15 13:20
MinceR	and i don't know how many experienced [ex-]debian package maintainers are working on it	Feb 15 13:21
cubexyz	do Russians use Linux a lot?	Feb 15 13:21
MinceR	seems to be a more significant limit to productivity than donations	Feb 15 13:21
XRevan86	cubexyz: Not really.	Feb 15 13:21
XRevan86	cubexyz: Just like everywhere else.	Feb 15 13:21
cubexyz	I thought Putin was trying to move people in that direction	Feb 15 13:22
cubexyz	but yeah, I talk to the odd Russian Linux person	Feb 15 13:23
XRevan86	cubexyz: Well, there is an idea to move government sector and schools to GNU/Linux.	Feb 15 13:23
XRevan86	but the product of this idea is… nothing, really.	Feb 15 13:24
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XRevan86	A lot of hatred toward Linux from school teachers	Feb 15 13:24
MinceR	if it's anything like hungary (another post-communist mafia state) then it depends on which vendor pays more in bribes at the moment	Feb 15 13:24
MinceR	right, also, underfunded teachers sucking at their job	Feb 15 13:25
MinceR	"but i can't learn anything new!"	Feb 15 13:25
XRevan86	MinceR: Yeah, kinda like that.	Feb 15 13:25
cubexyz	ALT Linux is Russian	Feb 15 13:25
XRevan86	cubexyz: And it sucks.	Feb 15 13:25
cubexyz	we have OpenBSD in Canada, along with Vector Linux	Feb 15 13:25
cubexyz	XRevan86, ok :)	Feb 15 13:25
cubexyz	I've never tried it	Feb 15 13:25
XRevan86	cubexyz: I've seen ALT Linux once (4.0 School Edition) in 2010, I think.	Feb 15 13:26
cubexyz	I use FC1 (ancient) and OpenBSD, plus I do a lot of classic computing	Feb 15 13:26
cubexyz	this box I'm on now is OpenBSD	Feb 15 13:26
XRevan86	I've wiped rootfs by apt-get dist-upgrade	Feb 15 13:27
XRevan86	I just don't know what went wrong.	Feb 15 13:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/englobalnewsp/status/567025653195616257	Feb 15 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@englobalnewsp: @schestowitz White House threatens to veto http://t.co/f9oCAdKoi4		Feb 15 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com \| White House threatens to veto bill limiting Gitmo transfers - YouTube		Feb 15 13:27
cubexyz	I think KDE 3.5.10 had pretty good keyboard support so you could use a lot of different languages	Feb 15 13:28
XRevan86	cubexyz: Government doesn't even use LibreOffice.	Feb 15 13:29
XRevan86	Linux and stuff are just words to get money for them.	Feb 15 13:29
XRevan86	Talks about government structures moving to Linux are going since 2009.	Feb 15 13:30
cubexyz	I know Russia had Elektronika series, like BK-0010, which was a DEC clone	Feb 15 13:30
cubexyz	so I know some Russians like Unix	Feb 15 13:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: That's USSR.	Feb 15 13:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: I know a lot of Russians who like Unix :).	Feb 15 13:32
cubexyz	Elektronika MS-0501 looked pretty good	Feb 15 13:33
cubexyz	not sure how expensive it was though	Feb 15 13:33
cubexyz	yes, I guess that must have been USSR era	Feb 15 13:34
XRevan86	cubexyz: Yeah.	Feb 15 13:34
XRevan86	cubexyz: The only Russian (Federation) project I know about is Elbrus.	Feb 15 13:35
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus_%28computer%29	Feb 15 13:35
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XRevan86	cubexyz: Of course, it is used in masses by… no one.	Feb 15 13:35
cubexyz	I wish we did have an affordable PDP-11 clone in Canada	Feb 15 13:36
cubexyz	there's just FPGA ones, nothing ready out of the box	Feb 15 13:36
XRevan86	cubexyz: Trick is that USSR was a different country with different science potential.	Feb 15 13:39
MinceR	greatly stunted science potential, thanks to communism	Feb 15 13:41
XRevan86	MinceR: And you sure we're living in communism	Feb 15 13:41
XRevan86	I heard it's called capitalism	Feb 15 13:41
MinceR	they called it that some of the time	Feb 15 13:42
MinceR	they renamed it like m$ renames their shit	Feb 15 13:42
XRevan86	MinceR: So, you're saying 80s are the time communism happend to USSR	Feb 15 13:42
MinceR	i'm not sure i understand	Feb 15 13:43
XRevan86	and 90s are the time when communism was rebranded to capitalism	Feb 15 13:43
cubexyz	so you go into a Russia computer store and it's all Windows and Apple	Feb 15 13:43
MinceR	well, yes, and it was supposed to have been replaced	Feb 15 13:43
cubexyz	and some Android I guess	Feb 15 13:43
XRevan86	MinceR: Soviet science died in 90s	Feb 15 13:43
MinceR	and then we realized that not much changed	Feb 15 13:43
MinceR	thanks to putin	Feb 15 13:43
XRevan86	MinceR: I see a lot of changes.	Feb 15 13:43
XRevan86	Dead science, dead manufacture…	Feb 15 13:44
cubexyz	hmmm	Feb 15 13:44
XRevan86	But the name is Yeltsin	Feb 15 13:44
XRevan86	cubexyz: And some FreeDOS	Feb 15 13:44
XRevan86	maybe even GNU/Linux, this also happens	Feb 15 13:45
cubexyz	XRevan86, there's a little bit of Linux and BSD in very small computer stores in Canada	Feb 15 13:45
XRevan86	Acer sells some laptops with Linpus	Feb 15 13:45
cubexyz	it's definitely a fringe thing	Feb 15 13:45
XRevan86	cubexyz: Same here, of course.	Feb 15 13:45
MinceR	XRevan86: i mean, the realization was due to putin	Feb 15 13:45
XRevan86	MinceR: Realization of what?	Feb 15 13:46
MinceR	that practically the same thing as the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the world	Feb 15 13:46
cubexyz	Linpus is Taiwanese I think	Feb 15 13:46
cubexyz	I tried it once, wasn't too good	Feb 15 13:46
MinceR	and is still non-democratic, still oppressive	Feb 15 13:46
XRevan86	> the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the world	Feb 15 13:47
XRevan86	Hmm	Feb 15 13:47
XRevan86	United States is a union in a way	Feb 15 13:47
XRevan86	and Soviet == Council	Feb 15 13:47
XRevan86	US has one…	Feb 15 13:47
MinceR	the USA is a different entity	Feb 15 13:47
MinceR	and a different kind of threat	Feb 15 13:48
XRevan86	MinceR: What kind of threat USSR was?	Feb 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines devuan is live (preview only)	Feb 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Rt5YfgryTI (mirror.debianfork.org)	Feb 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KKNAgLuVHU (mirror.debianfork.org)	Feb 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BuugNnYNKl (mirror.debianfork.org)	Feb 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqhc4	Feb 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines elementary OS: is financial support the only	Feb 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines	way to help a project grow?	Feb 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9SzJasifW9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqhc5	Feb 15 13:48
MinceR	a lot could be said about that	Feb 15 13:49
XRevan86	First democratic decision in Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_referendum,_1991	Feb 15 13:49
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XRevan86	76% of Soviet citizens voted for keeping USSR.	Feb 15 13:51
cubexyz	wow, I didn't know that	Feb 15 13:52
XRevan86	But oppressive USSR government desided not to listen.	Feb 15 13:52
MinceR	there still exist plenty of people in hungary who are deluded enough to believe that life was better under that empire	Feb 15 13:52
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MinceR	no wonder hungary is dying.	Feb 15 13:52
MinceR	they put a new dictatorship in place of the old one, after 20 years of democracy	Feb 15 13:53
XRevan86	I really know nothing about Hungary.	Feb 15 13:53
cubexyz	it's interesting to hear what goes on in different countries	Feb 15 13:53
XRevan86	cubexyz: It's hard to find good sources of information.	Feb 15 13:54
schestowitz	http://mrpogson.com/	Feb 15 13:56
schestowitz	"Valentine’s Day is an ancient tradition, mutated from a story of love and devotion by a martyr to a commercial period on the calendar. We all know it’s silly, but it’s fun, and we all love chocolate and roses and…"	Feb 15 13:56
XRevan86	MinceR: What threat USSR was exactly?	Feb 15 13:58
XRevan86	I still don't know.	Feb 15 13:59
MinceR	a military threat as well as a force that tried to force its own brand of dictatorship over ever more countries	Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 is Live !	Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/z1ZJD4D2Nf (makululinux.com) could	Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	do with some proofreading..	Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqhe5	Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not Ubuntu	Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rGNt22uKAE (linux.about.com)	Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqhe6	Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Changes Already For Linux 3.20 (Linux 4.0?) Are	Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	Very Exciting http://t.co/vImWhBtDyl	Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) http://t.co/BUhQVka6ur	Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 15 14:01
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MinceR	and the economies of the oppressed countries were wrecked by them	Feb 15 14:01
XRevan86	MinceR: Like Iraq?	Feb 15 14:01
MinceR	for the sake of religious belief in their anti-economics	Feb 15 14:02
MinceR	like the whole eastern bloc	Feb 15 14:02
XRevan86	and Libiya?	Feb 15 14:02
XRevan86	or maybe even worse? O_O	Feb 15 14:02
XRevan86	In GDR people sucked dirt.	Feb 15 14:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0	Feb 15 14:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/aN9jczhofr (www.kde.org)	Feb 15 14:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqhem	Feb 15 14:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 is Live !	Feb 15 14:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lBZZalfBRL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 14:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqhen	Feb 15 14:03
XRevan86	East Germany*	Feb 15 14:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Staging Pull For Linux 3.20 Has A Lot Of	Feb 15 14:03
TweetTuxMachines	Changes All Over The Place	Feb 15 14:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gUxLjKrUC3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 14:03
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XRevan86	Of course, those who were still alive.	Feb 15 14:04
XRevan86	and all that just because USSR wanted German oil.	Feb 15 14:04
MinceR	i didn't know about that	Feb 15 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not Ubuntu	Feb 15 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/L8QsxkFmhS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqhf0	Feb 15 14:04
MinceR	did germany have oil?	Feb 15 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0	Feb 15 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/v3NeKakD2o (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqhf1	Feb 15 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Reiser4 Updated For The Linux 3.18 Kernel	Feb 15 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Dtf6L5hQVw (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 15 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqhf2	Feb 15 14:05
XRevan86	MinceR: Me neither.	Feb 15 14:05
XRevan86	MinceR: s/USSR/US/;s/Germany/$PLACE_A_COUNTRY/	Feb 15 14:06
XRevan86	MinceR: Okay, even if we assume socialist countries were terrible and awful and now they live like gods	Feb 15 14:07
XRevan86	MinceR: This is still not a military threat	Feb 15 14:07
MinceR	then read up on what russia did in hungary in 1956.	Feb 15 14:08
XRevan86	MinceR: Stalin's time, I see.	Feb 15 14:11
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MinceR	was i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?	Feb 15 14:20
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MinceR	202051 <@MinceR> was i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?	Feb 15 14:25
XRevan86	MinceR: hmm?	Feb 15 14:25
XRevan86	MinceR: I'm reading Wikipedia about the rebellion :)	Feb 15 14:25
MinceR	:)	Feb 15 14:26
XRevan86	I see rebels were quite nice guys	Feb 15 14:27
XRevan86	Wikipedia says something about acid but I can't find a photo	Feb 15 14:28
XRevan86	> Photographs showed victims with signs of torture	Feb 15 14:29
XRevan86	Okay, I don't want to look at this	Feb 15 14:30
XRevan86	very… nice… guys	Feb 15 14:30
XRevan86	> The leaders of all states, including Poland, Yugoslavia, China, which initially welcomed the Hungarian events, agreed that the state in Hungary can be saved only through armed intervention	Feb 15 14:32
XRevan86	MinceR: This doesn't seem to be a good example of true evilness of USSR.	Feb 15 14:34
XRevan86	too controversial	Feb 15 14:34
MinceR	not according to the USSR and their puppets, certainly	Feb 15 14:34
MinceR	this is a "controversy" like evolution is	Feb 15 14:35
XRevan86	MinceR: I guess Wikipedia is one of them.	Feb 15 14:35
XRevan86	MinceR: I didn't quote anything %).	Feb 15 14:35
XRevan86	everything*	Feb 15 14:35
MinceR	afaik there is at least one russian nationalist clique that has power over wikipedia	Feb 15 14:35
XRevan86	MinceR: The most controversial part is what these rebels did.	Feb 15 14:37
XRevan86	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/2/2c/Защитники_горкома_ВПТ._Будапешт._30_окт_1956.jpg	Feb 15 14:37
MinceR	of course, everyone who dares oppose the Holy Russian Empire must be a devil.	Feb 15 14:38
schestowitz	http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/07/1207471/-Thanks-to-abstinence-teaching-Elizabeth-Smart-felt-I-m-that-chewed-up-piece-of-gum	Feb 15 14:38
XRevan86	damn, english version has a different structure	Feb 15 14:39
XRevan86	hard to find parallels	Feb 15 14:39
MinceR	should have started there	Feb 15 14:39
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schestowitz	[19:41] <MinceR> this is a "controversy" like evolution is	Feb 15 14:40
schestowitz	It is controversial	Feb 15 14:40
schestowitz	Very	Feb 15 14:40
schestowitz	Not for the Catholic Church though	Feb 15 14:40
schestowitz	as they already accept it, unlike most of the dumb followers	Feb 15 14:41
XRevan86	I think Russian Orphodox still didn't	Feb 15 14:41
schestowitz	Though I think the Church will say, "God started Evolution"	Feb 15 14:41
XRevan86	Orthodox*	Feb 15 14:41
MinceR	the catholic pope might, i'm not sure about the rest of the priests	Feb 15 14:41
schestowitz	they're too busy thinking about the children	Feb 15 14:42
MinceR	lol	Feb 15 14:42
XRevan86	> There were approximately 213 Hungarian Working People's Party members lynched or executed during this period	Feb 15 14:42
XRevan86	English Wikipedia is not much into details %)	Feb 15 14:43
*TweetTuxMachines @totallynoob followed @tuxmachines		Feb 15 14:43
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Changes Already For Linux 3.20 (Linux 4.0?) Are...'		Feb 15 14:43
schestowitz	The Soviet Union and the United States are different because of transparency	Feb 15 14:43
schestowitz	In Russia you get thrown out the window if you dare effectively criticise the regime	Feb 15 14:44
schestowitz	US dropped to 49th in press freedom	Feb 15 14:44
MinceR	and because there's still some degree of freedom of speech and democracy in the USA	Feb 15 14:44
schestowitz	Russia is almost 200th	Feb 15 14:44
schestowitz	US used to be much better, now dropping closer to USSR	Feb 15 14:44
MinceR	not always thrown out the window, some people get imprisoned instead	Feb 15 14:44
MinceR	say, for insulting the official cult of the state :>	Feb 15 14:45
XRevan86	schestowitz: I heard about silencing and stuff but throwing out of the window…	Feb 15 14:45
XRevan86	schestowitz: Have you heard about Lenta.ru?	Feb 15 14:45
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenta.ru	Feb 15 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Lenta.ru - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Feb 15 14:46
XRevan86	schestowitz: The reason for this replacement is an interview with one of the leaders of Right sector Andrey Tarasenko (from Russian Wikipedia)	Feb 15 14:48
XRevan86	strange that English one didn't mention that	Feb 15 14:49
XRevan86	And former editor-in-chief is not in jail or thrown out of the window but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meduza	Feb 15 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Meduza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Feb 15 14:50
*XRevan86 really doesn't like exaggerations.		Feb 15 14:51
*MinceR isn't sure if this is concrete case is what schestowitz was talking about		Feb 15 14:51
XRevan86	http://crunchbangplusplus.org/	Feb 15 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-crunchbangplusplus.org \| #!++ Coming Soon		Feb 15 14:52
XRevan86	MinceR: It's the only fresh one I know.	Feb 15 14:52
MinceR	does #!++ use systemd by default?	Feb 15 14:53
XRevan86	MinceR: No idea.	Feb 15 14:53
XRevan86	MinceR: It is openbox-based.	Feb 15 14:53
XRevan86	So in either way it is fixable by installing/removing systemd :)	Feb 15 14:53
MinceR	i'm not sure about that	Feb 15 14:54
XRevan86	MinceR: It's Debian, you know.	Feb 15 14:54
MinceR	for example, its display manager might have a hard dependency	Feb 15 14:54
XRevan86	Actually, I have no idea what crunchbang used as a DM. Not gdm for sure though.	Feb 15 14:54
MinceR	lightdm, perhaps	Feb 15 14:55
MinceR	no, slim	Feb 15 14:55
XRevan86	I vote for slim	Feb 15 14:55
XRevan86	:D	Feb 15 14:55
cubexyz	surely it's not hard to add the DM you want?	Feb 15 14:58
MinceR	hopefully	Feb 15 14:59
cubexyz	I added icewm to openbsd	Feb 15 14:59
XRevan86	cubexyz: It is Debian.	Feb 15 14:59
MinceR	i've heard a ridiculous amount of packages depend on systemd crap	Feb 15 14:59
XRevan86	+ custom repo	Feb 15 14:59
XRevan86	trick is to find out what that repo is :)	Feb 15 15:00
cubexyz	on vector I got a ton of different ones: fvwm, icewm, kde, mwm, ratpoison, twm, xfce 4 and failsafe	Feb 15 15:00
XRevan86	I know where crunch's was	Feb 15 15:00
cubexyz	failsafe is just X and xterm :)	Feb 15 15:00
cubexyz	no window manager really	Feb 15 15:00
XRevan86	https://github.com/computermouth/cbpp/tree/master/CBPP_beta_02132015_src/localp uhm…	Feb 15 15:01
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XRevan86	what I am looking at?	Feb 15 15:01
XRevan86	> The packages on github and the .iso were solely intended to provide a proof-of-concept	Feb 15 15:02
XRevan86	ah, good	Feb 15 15:02
cubexyz	this is what happens when everyone gets too dependent on distros	Feb 15 15:03
XRevan86	cubexyz: What do you mean?	Feb 15 15:04
cubexyz	XRevan86, they get less knowledgeable and a bit lazy	Feb 15 15:04
cubexyz	old school Linux was a roll your own affair	Feb 15 15:04
XRevan86	cubexyz: You're talking about systemd or crunch?	Feb 15 15:04
cubexyz	XRevan86, I'm not really referring to a specific distro, just the fact everyone now expects everything to be 'easy'	Feb 15 15:05
XRevan86	cubexyz: I don't, I break 'easy' stuff too easily.	Feb 15 15:06
cubexyz	I put over 100 hours into my first coreboot install	Feb 15 15:06
XRevan86	I don't know what's wrong with me, I can't work with stuff I don't understand.	Feb 15 15:07
cubexyz	sometimes you just have to put the extra time in	Feb 15 15:07
cubexyz	XRevan86, well which distro do you like?	Feb 15 15:07
XRevan86	cubexyz: From what perspective?	Feb 15 15:07
cubexyz	useability, normal day to day work	Feb 15 15:08
XRevan86	cubexyz: Debian.	Feb 15 15:08
XRevan86	But I use openSUSE :).	Feb 15 15:08
XRevan86	because I like the way maintainership is made in it.	Feb 15 15:09
XRevan86	Debian + Open Build Service infrastructure == distro from my dreams	Feb 15 15:10
cubexyz	everything was going fine with Linux, then Fedora 15, boom, systemd	Feb 15 15:12
XRevan86	cubexyz: I didn't see Fedora until recently.	Feb 15 15:13
XRevan86	It's an awful distribution.	Feb 15 15:13
XRevan86	But I don't see what this has to do with systemd	Feb 15 15:13
XRevan86	dnf and yum will be awful even without it	Feb 15 15:13
cubexyz	Poettering works for Red Hat	Feb 15 15:14
cubexyz	it's like systemd central now	Feb 15 15:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: I know. I still don't think he broke yum :)	Feb 15 15:15
cubexyz	what's wrong with yum?	Feb 15 15:15
XRevan86	1. terrible way of adding/modifying repos	Feb 15 15:15
XRevan86	2. slow startup with stupid verbose output of what yum plans to do (fixed in dnf)	Feb 15 15:16
XRevan86	3. failure results to dublicate packages, fixable via a separate utility	Feb 15 15:17
XRevan86	4. all output is just a mess (fixed in dnf)	Feb 15 15:18
XRevan86	5. dnf is not feature-rich	Feb 15 15:18
cubexyz	ok, well I'm off Fedora unless you include older versions	Feb 15 15:20
cubexyz	FC1 is so old I'm upgrading my source only	Feb 15 15:20
cubexyz	what do you think of pkg_add or Portage?	Feb 15 15:20
XRevan86	cubexyz: I haven't seen pkg_add	Feb 15 15:21
XRevan86	Portage is complicated and slow, but I can understand why.	Feb 15 15:21
cubexyz	XRevan86, you might like it	Feb 15 15:21
cubexyz	That's what OpenBSD uses	Feb 15 15:21
cubexyz	also every repo will eventually disappear	Feb 15 15:22
cubexyz	unless someone maintains hosting for it	Feb 15 15:22
cubexyz	of course, the old method was just tarballs	Feb 15 15:23
XRevan86	cubexyz: Well, I don't put PM on a first place. But Fedora's is so terrible…	Feb 15 15:25
XRevan86	What else Fedora can propose to compensate that?	Feb 15 15:25
cubexyz	ok, I basically agree, but for different reasons	Feb 15 15:26
cubexyz	I'm using slackware based distros and BSD now	Feb 15 15:26
XRevan86	different indeed	Feb 15 15:27
MinceR	yum is unreliable	Feb 15 15:27
XRevan86	MinceR: Yes, that's a good description of it.	Feb 15 15:27
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600928	Feb 15 16:30
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schestowitz	"	Feb 15 16:30
schestowitz	Interesting, it might be worth to check it.	Feb 15 16:30
schestowitz	Meanwhile yesterday I finally tried Debian Jessie, I installed it from scratch to get the true experience, systemd and all. After taking a lot of time to install, maybe because I used a virtual machine, I booted it and noticed lots of daemons and services up, none known or directly useful to me.	Feb 15 16:30
schestowitz	So the gdm login screen appeared and without doing anything but waiting something like an X terminal appeared and gdm got restarted. Waited more and saw that a couple of times more. Tried to login and the same happened in the middle of Gnome startup. Tried with Gnome and Gnome Classic and got the same.	Feb 15 16:30
schestowitz	Have no idea if this is related to systemd or not, but instead of wasting time trying to debug this I'm more compelled to spend time migrating to OpenBSD.	Feb 15 16:30
schestowitz	"	Feb 15 16:30
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MinceR	"Journalists and DWN editors reading: please do not link this. We will	Feb 15 16:31
MinceR	have another more public release soon :^) Let it be a private valentine "	Feb 15 16:31
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5601543	Feb 15 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: End of the #m0n0wall project http://m0n0.ch/wall/end_announcement.php #bsd #unix		Feb 15 16:31
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schestowitz	"That's really sad. I really liked m0n0wall. But I haven't used it myself for quite a long time... It was a good firewall and a router for my needs in the day."	Feb 15 16:31
schestowitz	Anyone can make a successor to it, like happens with Crunchbang now....	Feb 15 16:32
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597681	Feb 15 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "France’s ambassador to Denmark.. police officers who “saved [his] life” in the shooting." http://www.buzzfeed.com/alisonvingiano/copenhagen-shooting?utm_term=.xpMVpXQve&sub=3668607_4986563#.jhr535AAB #surveillance didn't help		Feb 15 16:32
schestowitz	"In the sixties Denmark imported people for the working force especially from Tyrkey. After that a a constant stream of people has come here - fugetives, Family reunification and migrants. We are one of the richest nations on Earth, with very good welfare. It is not strange that people want to come here."	Feb 15 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.buzzfeed.com \| Police Kill Suspect In Two Deadly Copenhagen Shootings - BuzzFeed News [ http://ur1.ca/jqg1d ]		Feb 15 16:32
schestowitz	"I just talked to one of the employees of a local roast chicken joint (I live in Nørrebro where the moron came from)He said: I don't call him a terrorist, just a young boy who had enough. I am sure he knew who it was. It was 100 m from where they shoot him. And it is true. The young assailant probably knew less about Islam than I do. He simply do what some young men do - go amok. He could have just killed a local pusher and nobody	Feb 15 16:33
schestowitz	would have cared. Now it was in the rich part of Copenhagen and targeted at the Swedish artist. That makes a difference for everybody else (and it should). But this guy could have thrown his life away in so many ways."	Feb 15 16:33
MinceR	it certainly made a difference for the artist	Feb 15 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines End of the m0n0wall project	Feb 15 16:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Jahia Raises $22.5M to Grow	Feb 15 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Enterprise Clients http://t.co/RiL8JL59WN	Feb 15 16:39
TweetTuxMachines	@sergehuber (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 16:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenPi review – a Pi of Things	Feb 15 16:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CrunchBang rises from the ashes	Feb 15 16:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat wants you to contain yourself and your	Feb 15 16:52
TweetTuxMachines	workloads http://t.co/E8TdwKWZgI	Feb 15 16:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CrunchBang rises from the ashes	Feb 15 16:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4cHb47k4Z8 (jimlynch.com)	Feb 15 16:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fSWjoNo8tt (www.linuxveda.com)	Feb 15 16:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Edge Of Eternity J-RPG Tribute Now On	Feb 15 17:02
TweetTuxMachines	Kickstarter, Has A Linux Demo	Feb 15 17:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/EZEP5yNUCI (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 15 17:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenPi review – a Pi of Things	Feb 15 17:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AJ3Te2hRsk (www.linuxuser.co.uk)	Feb 15 17:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat wants you to contain yourself and your	Feb 15 17:02
TweetTuxMachines	workloads http://t.co/MHxqeKgrzF	Feb 15 17:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Feb 15 17:02
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MinceR	i want red hat to contain themselves	Feb 15 17:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3	Feb 15 17:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/q3CE0uK58O (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 15 17:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As A	Feb 15 17:18
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Ultrabook http://t.co/baIBUmjjSH	Feb 15 17:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 15 17:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As A	Feb 15 17:19
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Ultrabook http://t.co/nxNWxo672s	Feb 15 17:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 15 17:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/IwQDdJtq1q	Feb 15 17:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Some Linux distributions never change	Feb 15 17:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3	Feb 15 17:25
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cubexyz	you get the cheap stuff, but you lose jobs or...	Feb 15 19:37
cubexyz	you keep the jobs, and don't get cheap stuff	Feb 15 19:37
MinceR	and in the end the cheap stuff turns out not to be cheap	Feb 15 19:38
MinceR	gn	Feb 15 19:40
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited '5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not...'		Feb 15 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 16/2/2015: CrunchBang is Back, OpenPi	Feb 15 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	Reviewed http://t.co/wJ2JqVluke	Feb 15 20:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/200hmMeV4D	Feb 15 20:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-Performing	Feb 16 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	Android Smartwatch Yet http://t.co/XfNPB4CIY3	Feb 16 01:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 01:46
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600929	Feb 16 03:32
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schestowitz	"I do not care about the systemd vs linux debate but it is nice to have alternatives."	Feb 16 03:32
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msb	With friends like that...	Feb 16 03:44
msb	I think the kernel should be folded into systemd. Then maybe Linus would wake up and say something.	Feb 16 03:49
msb	In fact, just put Windows 10 in there and forget about the kernel.	Feb 16 03:51
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgZRIqoq70M	Feb 16 04:52
*TweetTuxMachines @jstockd favourited 'Green Bubbles: How Apple Quietly Gets iPhone Users...'		Feb 16 05:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/CydeRGF89b	Feb 16 06:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0	Feb 16 06:25
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by http://t.co/v3NeKakD2o (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 06:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not Ubuntu	Feb 16 06:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 – Prometheus (64bit)	Feb 16 06:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xhKqJFJ3bp (www.netrunner.com)	Feb 16 06:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-Performing	Feb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines	Android Smartwatch Yet http://t.co/1lXy9FVgux	Feb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gizmodo.com.au)	Feb 16 06:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYD	Feb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 06:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 – Prometheus (64bit)	Feb 16 06:47
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msb	Wow, the comcrap mail server and the whole comcrap website -- comcast.net is down! But my service is still working.	Feb 16 06:56
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msb	http://www.telesurtv.net/english/telesuragenda/Venezuela-Coup-Thwarted-20150213-0007.html	Feb 16 07:36
msb	http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.html	Feb 16 07:36
msb	http://www.globalresearch.ca/britain-and-canada-involved-in-foiled-us-venezuelan-coup-plot/5431523	Feb 16 07:36
msb	http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11208	Feb 16 07:36
msb	The US tried to "regime-change" Venezuela a few days ago!	Feb 16 07:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Prediction: 2020 the year of (PC-)BSD on the	Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	desktop http://t.co/slAkoIDxxZ	Feb 16 08:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Leftovers http://t.co/kA2X0tbCQc	Feb 16 08:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5	Feb 16 08:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released	Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 08:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event	Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wZqWOEr9uy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn4b	Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux Distribution	Feb 16 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ruk9jv0xby (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn4d	Feb 16 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATE	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	Edition - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2YbC9IKzf0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn7w	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines CuBox-i review – an elegant mini PC which runs	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	Android, Linux and OpenELEC	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/M6CgpuCEAM	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidauthority.com)	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn7x	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What Every Company Can Learn From Xiaomi	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/r9FpZWBMI1	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerworlduk.com)	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn7z	Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5	Feb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4NTB7kLaar (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8c	Feb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released	Feb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HlJPQqLQjH (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8d	Feb 16 08:28
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released with KDE Plasma...'		Feb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event	Feb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rvCFNg2p4p (www.gsmarena.com)	Feb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8i	Feb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux Distribution	Feb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6pC8Uu7NeG (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8j	Feb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	@Geekkritik RT @tuxmachines: Meizu teases #ubuntuphone	Feb 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	ahead of MWC event http://t.co/aKf1G69vd5	Feb 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gsmarena.com)	Feb 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqn8u	Feb 16 08:30
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event...'		Feb 16 08:30
schestowitz	When "Cyber Security" means cracking networks of "enemy" nations and "Consumer Protection" means data #surveillance http://www.utahpeoplespost.com/2015/02/white-house-summit-on-cyber-security-and-consumer-protection/	Feb 16 08:37
cubexyz	ok, giving kwort a try	Feb 16 09:17
cubexyz	full report later	Feb 16 09:18
cubexyz	there's actually something rather like Unix v7 in the Linux world	Feb 16 09:23
cubexyz	ttylinux	Feb 16 09:23
cubexyz	http://ttylinux.net/dloadPC-i686.html	Feb 16 09:24
cubexyz	I'm hoping to find something minimal but still with X	Feb 16 09:26
cubexyz	+	Feb 16 09:28
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schestowitz	g2`: j0	Feb 16 13:27
g2`	Hello.	Feb 16 13:27
g2`	Yes?	Feb 16 13:27
schestowitz	sorry, wrong keystrokes :-)	Feb 16 13:31
schestowitz	meant to respond to MinceR	Feb 16 13:31
MinceR	j0	Feb 16 13:32
schestowitz	[21:40] <MinceR> it certainly made a difference for the artist	Feb 16 13:33
schestowitz	Indeed	Feb 16 13:33
schestowitz	But that's taking the statement a bit out of context	Feb 16 13:33
MinceR	:>	Feb 16 13:34
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g2`	I joined here based on because "social" was in the topic	Feb 16 13:40
XRevan86	g2`: hmm?	Feb 16 13:41
schestowitz	GNU Social?	Feb 16 13:41
g2`	i joined here after /alis social topic search	Feb 16 13:41
schestowitz	Channel #boycottnovell-social is social too	Feb 16 13:41
XRevan86	schestowitz: You're still not in GNU social, right? :)	Feb 16 13:42
schestowitz	I think it was suggested by balzac around 2009 after Fedora had made such a channel	Feb 16 13:42
schestowitz	XRevan86: well, I used to use identica, whose successor is Social	Feb 16 13:42
schestowitz	StatusNet	Feb 16 13:42
XRevan86	schestowitz: This is past, I'm interested in present :).	Feb 16 13:42
schestowitz	running what was identi.ca at the time	Feb 16 13:42
schestowitz	I am no longer active in identi.ca	Feb 16 13:43
schestowitz	I moved to Diaspora	Feb 16 13:43
XRevan86	identi.ca is an instance of pump.io	Feb 16 13:43
XRevan86	now	Feb 16 13:43
schestowitz	after three people had invited me	Feb 16 13:43
schestowitz	pump.io does not interest me much (too basic) and Evan didn't give me my data from StatusNet, so I can't migrate to Social	Feb 16 13:44
XRevan86	schestowitz: I did tell you that importing data is not implemented anyway.	Feb 16 13:44
schestowitz	Even if export was possible, that's something	Feb 16 13:44
schestowitz	I can put online, and self-host, what I posted	Feb 16 13:45
schestowitz	As I did with Digg when it went Kaput	Feb 16 13:45
schestowitz	and with twitter before it dies, which it will one day	Feb 16 13:45
schestowitz	http://schestowitz.com/tweets	Feb 16 13:45
XRevan86	schestowitz: You can use twitter bridge, by the way.	Feb 16 13:46
XRevan86	Anyway, today's identi.ca is not StatusNet and so is not it's data	Feb 16 13:46
g2`	I'm not that familiar with the boycott novell situation..	Feb 16 13:46
XRevan86	schestowitz: You actually could export data from identi.ca but only before it migrated to pump.io	Feb 16 13:47
XRevan86	StatusNet and GNU social support exporting.	Feb 16 13:47
XRevan86	schestowitz: And I don't think Evan stores data from back then.	Feb 16 13:48
XRevan86	http://skilledtests.com/wiki/Statusnet_problems#data_portability	Feb 16 13:49
XRevan86	schestowitz: Does Diaspora* support Atom/RSS?	Feb 16 13:49
XRevan86	schestowitz: There are ways of automatic fetching of Atom streams in GNU social.	Feb 16 13:50
XRevan86	https://loadaverage.org/lor this account works in that way	Feb 16 13:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATE	Feb 16 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	Edition - Screenshot Tour	Feb 16 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KtlUs5Wj5s (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3f	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zawlGfEAfP (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3g	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.0 Lollipop Is More Stable Than iOS 8:	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	Report http://t.co/71Vewb0jTp	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3m	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Malta to start government software repository	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Is6iQWXbcg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3n	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DmvlOtMepe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqp3p	Feb 16 13:58
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*TweetTuxMachines @greenlionnet favourited 'The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0...'		Feb 16 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running	Feb 16 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	a desktop) http://t.co/veUTXN3tpQ (lkcl.net)	Feb 16 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpac	Feb 16 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYD	Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpav	Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Android 5.0 Lollipop has a tiny slight edge	Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	when it comes to stability"	Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/k9VmH7EZDl (www.techtimes.com)	Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpax	Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast and	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	User-Friendly Arch Linux Distro	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Z0VfdD0i8B (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpb0	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Galicia publishes CeMIT classroom management	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	system http://t.co/u1wxMsgbd0	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpb3	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities Corrected	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	in All Supported Ubuntu OSes	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IAs95NXvG0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpb4	Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But	Feb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines	Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/E8osEWsSGU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbl	Feb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running	Feb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines	a desktop) http://t.co/oxPxRJVsQn	Feb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbm	Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LG's new Android Wear smartwatch, the Watch	Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	Urbane, has an all-metal body	Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sFljz39f3w (www.gizmag.com)	Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbn	Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xposed Framework For Android Lollipop Now	Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	Available: What You Need To Know	Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5JL99N0DrV (www.techtimes.com)	Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpbo	Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 4.4 KitKat Update Now Available for	Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	Xolo Q1200 http://t.co/jTGaT7UVbQ	Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	(gadgets.ndtv.com)	Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpdz	Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lenovo A6000, A5000, P70, S90 and Others to Get	Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	Android 5.0 Lollipop Update Soon	Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GOimx8zt6W (www.ibtimes.co.in)	Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpe0	Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu for Phones a reality	Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BQukn70R5G (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpe1	Feb 16 14:49
MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/piYLcaF.jpg	Feb 16 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best new icon packs for Android (February 2015)	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	#2 http://t.co/w9I3QXiDOe (www.phonearena.com)	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	"customization is one of the main selling	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	points"	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpfs	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cut the Rope Is the First Major Game Ported for	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/6hTMsPyDId	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpfu	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	@brolettolinux RT @tuxmachines: Removing Systemd from Debian	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	(and still running a desktop)	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NOWU8Q3q79 (lkcl.net)	Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpfw	Feb 16 15:00
msb	Comcast is censoring e-mails! Any e-mail from Comcast containing this URL is never sent. http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.html	Feb 16 15:04
msb	schestowitz: no bot?	Feb 16 15:04
cubexyz	do you get my emails?	Feb 16 15:05
msb	When did you send one?	Feb 16 15:05
cubexyz	just now	Feb 16 15:06
cubexyz	just curious if stuff from my mail server gets through	Feb 16 15:06
cubexyz	I see your emails though	Feb 16 15:07
msb	I got it.	Feb 16 15:08
cubexyz	I got your telesurtv.net message	Feb 16 15:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Arnold's T-800 Terminator Runs Linux Kernel	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	4.1, We're All Doomed http://t.co/O6kmn2QmtG	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/9RiocPoBoo	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxveda.com)	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqphy	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OS	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	Devs Say People Should Pay	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LuzRsexXTe (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	nothing forbids it.	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqphz	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Legends Of Eisenwald, A Medieval RPG & Strategy	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	Game Is Coming To Linux https://t.co/jBXhLzaPdW	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpi0	Feb 16 15:11
msb	cubexyz: yes. I found which url was censored, and tinyurled it. Then it went thru.	Feb 16 15:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the Fedora	Feb 16 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	family http://t.co/2h5mvIyVoh (www.scrye.com)	Feb 16 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpiu	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Their official site notes that Linux will be a	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	platform, and their publisher is the	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-friendly Devolver Digi...	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bo3cYSIIU9 (joindiaspora.com)	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpiw	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/mnO14Wru26	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpiz	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds: I don’t care if Terminator	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	robots run on Linux http://t.co/F7hYruRgy2	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpj1	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OS	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	Devs Say People Should Pay	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kfhGEf5TPH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpj2	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 Officially Released, Not	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	Yet Ready for 64-bit - Video	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VMMXlf9xAe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpj3	Feb 16 15:16
MinceR	somebody forgot the name "Cyberdyne Systems"	Feb 16 15:19
msb	Anybody here using Comcast?	Feb 16 15:21
MinceR	thankfully not me	Feb 16 15:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the Fedora	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	family http://t.co/Jrm9xDCJEz	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpkw	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OS	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	with the Latest NVIDIA Drivers	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kn9s1syrKB (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpkx	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpky	Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities Corrected	Feb 16 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	in All Supported Ubuntu OSes	Feb 16 15:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AQMgS0bUg6 (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpok	Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #BridgeLinux #Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast and	Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	User-Friendly Arch Linux Distro	Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRb (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	#gnome too: http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRb	Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpol	Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Project Reaches 83% Reproducible Builds	Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	for Source Packages http://t.co/IcXpRuey8W	Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqpom	Feb 16 15:43
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XRevan86	http://habrahabr.ru/post/250707 about russian distros	Feb 16 15:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 16/2/2015: Netrunner 15, Bridge Linux	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jss77NuQ1p (techrights.org)	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprf	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OS	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	with the Latest NVIDIA Drivers	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rIsy3vAxyi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprg	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why I am a Member of the Open Source Initiative	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QEYsBnBa4M (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprj	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3pm3OTgWuh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqprk	Feb 16 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/c2wL9ooW3Z	Feb 16 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqqhq	Feb 16 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/znwJAeu5o8	Feb 16 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 18:04
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cubexyz	ok, I can report good results for AntiX 13.2	Feb 16 18:22
cubexyz	debian based OS, no systemd	Feb 16 18:22
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*TweetTuxMachines @TheBlacksmithP followed @tuxmachines		Feb 16 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/k6x9R9Bdmg (www.datamation.com)	Feb 16 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr1g	Feb 16 19:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Login2truth/status/567491965370261504	Feb 16 20:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines gnu linux and in malawi http://t.co/SBNqqxvFJF	Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	(lodahl.blogspot.co.uk)	Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5o	Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wk54PkyVyR (linuxgizmos.com)	Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5p	Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Spelling in Malawi http://t.co/CAxixL4JJ7	Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5q	Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros	Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kYESevnmSi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqr5s	Feb 16 20:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/i9R9towuz7	Feb 16 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrhn	Feb 16 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux A Labour Of Love?	Feb 16 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 21:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/JjfBm64QyZ	Feb 16 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 21:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines systemd 219 http://t.co/jw2CvLUnYI	Feb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqrkc	Feb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for	Feb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	Download, Chromebook Image Included	Feb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cN9BNdfWG3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 21:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the	Feb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	Community, Says Linux Foundation	Feb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Y8EY4JCZ5X (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 21:52
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*TweetTuxMachines @devindthorpe favourited 'How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on...'		Feb 16 22:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) released	Feb 16 22:27
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TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TMV4OfxP57 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 16 22:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install In	Feb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize Tasks	Feb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6skwD8GX4L (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsng	Feb 17 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install In Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize Tasks \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Project Points to Danger of Boutique	Feb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	Distros http://t.co/3yL0S2S0Hg	Feb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsni	Feb 17 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Project Points to Danger of Boutique Distros \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You	Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	Wherever You Go http://t.co/iViCZlwU35	Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsuq	Feb 17 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever You Go \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto	Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/5gOS8Kgold	Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsur	Feb 17 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto Doesn't Work On Linux? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But	Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/a66qGsD8hI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqsus	Feb 17 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 02:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple	Feb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	lookalike http://t.co/uRl771b465	Feb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtjk	Feb 17 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon http://t.co/QlisN61LVM	Feb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtjm	Feb 17 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 04:43
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros http://t.co/kYESevnmSi'		Feb 17 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 04:43
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Is Linux A Labour Of Love? http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe'		Feb 17 05:20
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But...'		Feb 17 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Is Linux A Labour Of Love? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced	Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	below P5k http://t.co/TnHNBfAP9y	Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtql	Feb 17 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced below P5k \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where do we stand after 30 years after the	Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	founding of the Free Software Foundation?	Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zrQCDx7jDj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtqm	Feb 17 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Where do we stand after 30 years after the founding of the Free Software Foundation? \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now	Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	Available on PCs http://t.co/jNatXbCa6y	Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtqn	Feb 17 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 05:20
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on...'		Feb 17 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your	Feb 17 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi https://t.co/QDu9nAYAdu	Feb 17 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.adafruit.com)	Feb 17 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtrc	Feb 17 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adafruit.com \| Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your Raspberry Pi #piday #raspberrypi @Raspberry_Pi « Adafruit Industries – Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!		Feb 17 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Radical Idea For More Linux Game Ports	Feb 17 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BHjD18j97R (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 17 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	"Canonical and Red Hat finance the ports."	Feb 17 05:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtry	Feb 17 05:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| A Radical Idea For More Linux Game Ports - Phoronix		Feb 17 05:26
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike...'		Feb 17 05:26
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With...'		Feb 17 05:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon reviewed	Feb 17 05:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lW0r2hqi5D (distrowatch.com)	Feb 17 05:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqttg	Feb 17 05:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com \| DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.		Feb 17 05:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever...'		Feb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	@miniputing This is actually quite nice RT @tuxmachines	Feb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your	Feb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi https://t.co/wTkzVQoj40	Feb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.adafruit.com) …	Feb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqtuy	Feb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Continues to Attack Software Freedom	Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	Through UEFI http://t.co/QuN3a6M5u4	Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org) http://t.co/YU2RYG3ERd	Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu04	Feb 17 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Intel Continues to Attack Software Freedom Through UEFI \| Techrights		Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple	Feb 17 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| UEFI - Techrights		Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	lookalike http://t.co/ZV1OFALUV7	Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techzim.co.zw)	Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu05	Feb 17 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw \| Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike - Techzim		Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/SqEqer8MpY	Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxjournal.com)	Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu06	Feb 17 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| The Usability of GNOME \| Linux Journal		Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,	Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/gaPHO799G1	Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu2k	Feb 17 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source	Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0w8PvpgIgS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu2l	Feb 17 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let It	Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwg	Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu2m	Feb 17 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don’t Let It Kill Android Players Too \| Techrights		Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines systemd 219 http://t.co/WshyjU01xf	Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	(lists.freedesktop.org)	Feb 17 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org \| [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd 219		Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu87	Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/NvzSfc3Ari	Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	(lists.freedesktop.org)	Feb 17 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org \| [ANNOUNCE] wayland 1.7.0		Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu88	Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Using OpenGL with GTK+ https://t.co/cXtSxEzylh	Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.bassi.io)	Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu89	Feb 17 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bassi.io \| halting problem : Using OpenGL with GTK+		Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux A Labour Of Love?	Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lVURJEaLfM	Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.everydaylinuxuser.com)	Feb 17 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| Is Linux A Labour Of Love? « Everyday Linux User		Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqu8a	Feb 17 06:35
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Is Linux A Labour Of Love? http://t.co/lVURJEaLfM'		Feb 17 06:48
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, http://engt.co/1FU17oK	Feb 17 06:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com \| The NSA hides surveillance software in hard drives		Feb 17 06:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux 4.0	Feb 17 07:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PzPnGvfDEI (www.linuxplanet.com)	Feb 17 07:02
TweetTuxMachines	#linux #kernel	Feb 17 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplanet.com \| Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux 4.0		Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqugb	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/obsbOyB5FW	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.lifehacker.com.au)	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	microsoft silverlight still a cancer on the Web	Feb 17 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.com.au \| Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto Doesn't Work On Linux? \| Lifehacker Australia		Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqugc	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gm24wef8E5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquge	Feb 17 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 07:03
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because...'		Feb 17 07:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for	Feb 17 07:07
TweetTuxMachines	Download, Chromebook Image Included	Feb 17 07:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/J5ylpU2bsf (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 07:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquhf	Feb 17 07:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for Download, Chromebook Image Included - Softpedia		Feb 17 07:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) released	Feb 17 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aza0Qb03MM (frugalware.org)	Feb 17 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquj9	Feb 17 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-frugalware.org \| Frugalware		Feb 17 07:15
*TweetTuxMachines @whiletrueweb favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'		Feb 17 07:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the	Feb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	Community, Says Linux Foundation	Feb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/eStktbW0ty (thevarguy.com)	Feb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqun5	Feb 17 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the Community, Says Linux Foundation \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Feb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You	Feb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	Wherever You Go http://t.co/gieHeNKc14	Feb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.makeuseof.com)	Feb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqun6	Feb 17 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever You Go		Feb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DNF 0.6.4 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.5 Released	Feb 17 07:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oL9cSdw9Xh (dnf.baseurl.org)	Feb 17 07:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqun7	Feb 17 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org \| DNF 0.6.4 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.5 Released \| DNF		Feb 17 07:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @devindthorpe followed @tuxmachines		Feb 17 07:37
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever...'		Feb 17 07:37
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'		Feb 17 07:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraph	Feb 17 07:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cI7F0ZU4sy (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 17 07:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqur3	Feb 17 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraph - Phoronix		Feb 17 07:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/sWzWyVJJWY	Feb 17 07:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 07:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jquss	Feb 17 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVt	Feb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqust	Feb 17 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Resistance to successors of #!	Feb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/p8Yxh6ddC4 (crunchbang.org)	Feb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqusu	Feb 17 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=419094#p419094 )		Feb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "It seems, that the passion of the community of	Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	#! was too overwhelming..."	Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BR6VuTJKYW	Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	(digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk)	Feb 17 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk \| Digitallofice: #! is dead - Long live #!++		Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv3n	Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It	Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?	Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)	Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	also see http://t.co/q8fp11QjUF	Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	(androidheadlines.com)	Feb 17 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.idigitaltimes.com \| First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?		Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv3o	Feb 17 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-androidheadlines.com \| Ubuntu-Powered Meizu Handset Will Be Unveiled At MWC, Company's Official Teaser Confirms \| Androidheadlines.com		Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column	Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lw6PRkmLLd (www.linuxuser.co.uk)	Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv3p	Feb 17 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk \| Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column \| Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generation		Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Screenshot Tour of Bodhi Linux 3.0.0	Feb 17 08:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kwnsNEGMoX (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 08:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv44	Feb 17 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Officially Released, Uses the Numix Icons - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Feb 17 08:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux Games	Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	For Dirt Cheap https://t.co/Z5wUu4vHY9	Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com) http://t.co/yEUPCBTkae	Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamasutra.com)	Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv46	Feb 17 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux Games For Dirt Cheap \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 17 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamasutra.com \| Gamasutra - Press Releases - Steam games for Windows, Mac and Linux – just 25 cents each in the new Trinity Bundle!		Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 17 years of defending open source: Join the OSI	Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	today http://t.co/bayC7upQKy	Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv48	Feb 17 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 17 years of defending open source: Join the OSI today \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open	Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	Source Experts http://t.co/0WNuj0djaU	Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv4p	Feb 17 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column	Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/alRgoYZqjx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv4q	Feb 17 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2+ years with network management in KDE	Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Gm94nImZnT (grulja.wordpress.com)	Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv4r	Feb 17 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grulja.wordpress.com \| 2+ years with network management in KDE \| Jan Grulich		Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	@rmsthebot @tuxmachines You should say GNU/Linux or	Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	GNU+Linux.	Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv6a	Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour	Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Y6v9d7sU19 (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv6b	Feb 17 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance,	Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	this time in the Philippines	Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/q3laUGjTFK (www.phonearena.com)	Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YqOkVDli8E (www.gmanetwork.com)	Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv6c	Feb 17 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com \| Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance, this time in the Philippines		Feb 17 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gmanetwork.com \| Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced below P5k \| SciTech \| GMA News Online		Feb 17 09:00
*TweetTuxMachines @HandsOnGeek followed @tuxmachines		Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Where do we stand after 30 years after the	Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	founding of the Free Software Foundation?	Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CgpciLYsmz (opensource.com)	Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv76	Feb 17 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| Interview with John Sullivan, Executive Director of Free Software Foundation \| Opensource.com		Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,	Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/SoU4zCz9Vy	Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid - Softpedia		Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv77	Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now	Feb 17 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	Available on PCs http://t.co/YFkeMJ7Zsq	Feb 17 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs - Softpedia		Feb 17 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv7x	Feb 17 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source	Feb 17 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7Lj3MmEOVP (joinup.ec.europa.eu)	Feb 17 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqv7z	Feb 17 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu \| Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source \| Joinup		Feb 17 09:07
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation http://t.co/gm24wef8E5'		Feb 17 09:14
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will...'		Feb 17 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 09:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open	Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	Source Experts http://t.co/Smq6BljUrW	Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	(thevarguy.com)	Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvhr	Feb 17 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com \| Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts \| Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR Guy		Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let It	Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwg	Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (techrights.org)	Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvc7	Feb 17 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don’t Let It Kill Android Players Too \| Techrights		Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Leftovers http://t.co/bnPE3aNWb0	Feb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvko	Feb 17 10:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Softpedia's Screenshot Tours	Feb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Lay4m26NZj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvkp	Feb 17 10:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVt	Feb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Feb 17 10:01
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqvk2	Feb 17 10:01
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611035	Feb 17 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The corporate media, using so-called 'experts', tries to dub #putin 'insane' while calling #assange and #snowden depressed while besieged		Feb 17 11:32
schestowitz	"Because US politicians pushing for a nuclear war with Russia are a model of sanity."	Feb 17 11:32
schestowitz	They are the "insane we like", or "our kind of insane"	Feb 17 11:32
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XRevan86	schestowitz: I was wrong apparently, there is a data import in GNU social.	Feb 17 11:53
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MinceR	geekings	Feb 17 13:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth A	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	Look https://t.co/rgMQU7oKMk	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqwym	Feb 17 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth A Look \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 17 13:53
MinceR	http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/	Feb 17 13:56
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MinceR	http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-02-17	Feb 17 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilbert.com \| Elbonians Hacked Their Network - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2015-02-17 \| Dilbert by Scott Adams		Feb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open-source software aims to change game for	Feb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	smart facades http://t.co/rGxvrp9x5N	Feb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqx5x	Feb 17 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open-source software aims to change game for smart facades \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/WawMIl4I6L	Feb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqx60	Feb 17 14:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 17/2/2015: SystemD 219, Frugalware 2.0	Feb 17 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	(Rigel) Released http://t.co/HzzV7k3Sgk	Feb 17 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Feb 17 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqx61	Feb 17 14:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Pj019nZPXR	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxnm	Feb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/YaiEg3t5nT	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxns	Feb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/XBpVyriDpG	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxnv	Feb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	TripleO http://t.co/y0yzy2snWV	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxnx	Feb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews TripleO \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8BxEhsKvgP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxnz	Feb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015 \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hcOeLZW7kx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxo1	Feb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2 \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SUSE Unveils Open Source Enterprise Storage	Feb 17 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Ceph http://t.co/anodaO8bID	Feb 17 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxo6	Feb 17 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SUSE Unveils Open Source Enterprise Storage Based on Ceph \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 15:46
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Sosumi	actually Putin has been dubbed an autist	Feb 17 15:56
Sosumi	but lol	Feb 17 15:56
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/how-omnipotent-hackers-tied-to-the-nsa-hid-for-14-years-and-were-found-at-last/	Feb 17 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| How “omnipotent” hackers tied to NSA hid for 14 years—and were found at last \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jqxqs ]		Feb 17 15:56
Sosumi	has anyone read it	Feb 17 15:56
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Sosumi	quite a sensational piece for an already known problem	Feb 17 15:57
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cubexyz	well it lives	Feb 17 15:59
cubexyz	got the ol' HP Laserjet 5N working again	Feb 17 15:59
Sosumi	defibrillated it? :)	Feb 17 16:00
cubexyz	had to turn on the parallel port on one box	Feb 17 16:00
cubexyz	cleaned it up, put in a refurbished toner cartridge	Feb 17 16:01
cubexyz	it fits in well with all the other old computers	Feb 17 16:02
Sosumi	:)	Feb 17 16:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Enters The Classroom	Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/28DQOxDIt2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxwx	Feb 17 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open Source Enters The Classroom \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app	Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oEF8IaEbT4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxx0	Feb 17 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP adds scale to open-source R in latest big	Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	data platform http://t.co/ZiyZwX8gjJ	Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqxx1	Feb 17 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| HP adds scale to open-source R in latest big data platform \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for	Feb 17 16:43
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/kFDQCDIjes	Feb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqy2j	Feb 17 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for Linux \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings	Feb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines	DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa	Feb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/c5BSxsP8Gc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqy2k	Feb 17 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 16:44
*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'HP adds scale to open-source R in latest...'		Feb 17 17:12
schestowitz	MinceR: https://twitter.com/TelegraphNews/status/567805786388242432	Feb 17 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TelegraphNews: Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban http://t.co/LSttpXUoku http://t.co/AgKy6Z5teo		Feb 17 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban - Telegraph		Feb 17 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TelegraphNews: Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban http://t.co/LSttpXUoku http://t.co/AgKy6Z5teo		Feb 17 17:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the	Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	Philippines in April 2015	Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/uuI8lfGGsE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqygk	Feb 17 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the Philippines in April 2015 \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.1 Lollipop Hitting Nexus Devices Soon	Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	Ahead of Motorola’s Smartphones!	Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hsbSOAv9kt (masterherald.com)	Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqygl	Feb 17 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-masterherald.com \| Android 5.1 Lollipop Hitting Nexus Devices Soon Ahead of Motorola’s Smartphones! \| Master Herald		Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hey, Samsung, LG And HTC—Shunning Android Wear	Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	Is A Huge Mistake http://t.co/XY8dZENU0j	Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	(readwrite.com)	Feb 17 17:47
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyid	Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The four best lock screens for your Android	Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	phone http://t.co/wWS4nUPqfw	Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.greenbot.com)	Feb 17 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com \| The four best lock screens for your Android phone \| Greenbot		Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyif	Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Any app that works with Android Wear now works	Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	on your Pebble http://t.co/kUFpFD63TA	Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.engadget.com)	Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyig	Feb 17 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com \| Any app that works with Android Wear now works on your Pebble		Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AAcuF67xen (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyih	Feb 17 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2 \| ZDNet		Feb 17 17:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015	Feb 17 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7D7BS444nb (www.linux.com) "been	Feb 17 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	using Linux as my only OS since 2005"	Feb 17 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqykr	Feb 17 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015 \| Linux.com		Feb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews	Feb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	TripleO http://t.co/ZYkRGD1XKU (www.eweek.com)	Feb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyks	Feb 17 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews TripleO		Feb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Inspired by Linux, Pivotal to open-source bulk	Feb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	of big data suite http://t.co/jj8GLfHasF	Feb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Feb 17 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Inspired by Linux, Pivotal to open-source bulk of big data suite • The Register		Feb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqyku	Feb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for	Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/EJG71ib5GY	Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) alas, proprietary	Feb 17 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for Linux - Softpedia		Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqymx	Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app	Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1Rw5YWlmiL (blogs.gnome.org)	Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqymy	Feb 17 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2015/02/17/first-fully-sandboxed-linux-desktop-app/ )		Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the	Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	Philippines in April 2015	Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CetLcfPA6V (www.tizenexperts.com)	Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	Android growing there too	Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Iot161U6bm (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqymz	Feb 17 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the Philippines in April 2015 - Tizen Experts		Feb 17 18:02
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660	Feb 17 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/		Feb 17 19:11
schestowitz	"#openhardware #FTW"	Feb 17 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/jqw71 ]		Feb 17 19:11
schestowitz	"This is why the Librem laptop I thought was a huge deal, it's creating the first real demand (with $) for Intel to open up the firmware code of their latest chips. That's a huge deal, as open firmware-wise on laptops we're stuck in the freaking Core Duo days right now."	Feb 17 19:11
schestowitz	Anything with Intel in it is already freedom-hostile by design :-)	Feb 17 19:12
cubexyz	librem is too expensive	Feb 17 19:14
cubexyz	but maybe the price will go down over time	Feb 17 19:15
cubexyz	Lemote had a Chinese debian-based distro called RAYS	Feb 17 19:20
cubexyz	so Lemote should work with Debian	Feb 17 19:20
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614884	Feb 17 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Need #Syriza in #Illinois http://www.thenation.com/article/198073/we-need-syriza-illinois "millionaire governor decrees austerity" #classwar #looting		Feb 17 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenation.com \| We Need Syriza in Illinois \| The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/jqz5d ]		Feb 17 19:23
schestowitz	"If austerity is so good then the US can have some."	Feb 17 19:23
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5613031	Feb 17 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wars can be construed as "creating jobs". Think of all the stuff that needs to be rebuilt. The "job creator" myth exploits mass ignorance.		Feb 17 19:23
schestowitz	"That sounds great! Let's create jobs in the US, I have heard there is high unemployment there."	Feb 17 19:23
MinceR	no, they should work with a distro that cares	Feb 17 19:25
MinceR	debian is not such a distro	Feb 17 19:25
cubexyz	the corebot devs want intel to drop verified boot in future	Feb 17 19:25
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cubexyz	there's a few distros which are based on debian wheezy that should be completely fine	Feb 17 19:27
cubexyz	wheezy supports amd64, armel, i386, ia64, mips, even s390 :)	Feb 17 19:28
cubexyz	and no systemd	Feb 17 19:28
cubexyz	at least antix doesn't use systemd	Feb 17 19:29
MinceR	gentoo still supports openrc	Feb 17 19:30
MinceR	slackware still doesn't use cancerd	Feb 17 19:30
cubexyz	indeed, one of the reasons I use vector linux, based on slackware	Feb 17 19:31
cubexyz	I'm still not sure what the deal is with Debian to be honest	Feb 17 19:32
MinceR	they jumped the shark	Feb 17 19:33
cubexyz	it seems very unlikely the IBM folks would use systemd	Feb 17 19:35
MinceR	i'm not sure if there are any IBM folks around	Feb 17 19:35
MinceR	they seem to have sold all the divisions that matter	Feb 17 19:35
cubexyz	well, I only mention that because debian has an s390 version	Feb 17 19:35
MinceR	they still have Rational making and selling atrocious crap	Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings	Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa	Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rXgIxczoer (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqz84	Feb 17 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa - Softpedia		Feb 17 19:35
MinceR	and a few clueless suits cozying up with crApple	Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/0cRfBfKwIF	Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqz85	Feb 17 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Hostkey rotation, redux http://t.co/Gutdvi5eD7	Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 17 19:36
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cubexyz	AntiX is based on wheezy, but it's sysvinit	Feb 17 19:38
cubexyz	so it seems that the default for wheezy is no systemd	Feb 17 19:39
cubexyz	Jessie, the immediate successor to Wheezy, defaults to systemd	Feb 17 19:40
cubexyz	if you want the old sysvinit you can still have it, but it's not the default	Feb 17 19:40
cubexyz	you might still have chunks of systemd in there though	Feb 17 19:41
MinceR	wheezy already has some systemd contamination in the form of libsystemd-daemon0 and libsystemd-login0	Feb 17 19:42
MinceR	but at least doesn't force systemd as pid1	Feb 17 19:42
cubexyz	I think you can just: apt-get remove libsystemd-login	Feb 17 19:44
cubexyz	I'll check on antix for libsystemd	Feb 17 19:44
cubexyz	I don't remember seeing it, but I'm not 100% sure	Feb 17 19:44
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cubexyz	yes, systemd is there but it's not being used by icewm	Feb 17 19:57
cubexyz	more research is needed	Feb 17 19:57
cubexyz	"apt-get remove systemd"	Feb 17 19:58
cubexyz	ok, trying that now	Feb 17 19:58
cubexyz	success	Feb 17 20:05
cubexyz	there's still a few bits of libsystemd stuff in here, but systemd wasn't necessary for anything I was running	Feb 17 20:05
cubexyz	one of the other window managers might need systemd for something, but not icewm	Feb 17 20:07
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Feb 17 20:46
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Feb 17 20:46
DaemonFC	Bill Hicks on Dan Quayle (who has his "vice presidential museum" here in Huntington).	Feb 17 20:46
DaemonFC	"Little Quayle Boy...Little Damian. Is that guy Damian? Tell me those blank empty eyes aren't gonna glow red in the near future. 'Stop making jokes about meeeeee! (makes Satanic snorting/growling noise) I'll spell potato any fucking way I want! (snorting, growling) Rioters in LA - Let's nuke 'em! Bush was a pussy! (snorting, growling) He held me back!"	Feb 17 20:46
DaemonFC	LMAO! Still funny after all these years. Must be because of all the hero worship of the one-term do nothing knucklehead that still goes on in Huntington. What a fucking waste of a town. These people are scum. If you ask me, the worst thing about meth....is that it doesn't kill 'em fast enough. I'm serious.	Feb 17 20:46
DaemonFC	Anyone...who does that to themselves.... I don't think we lost anything. You know? "Duh! Let's smoke crystal meth! Let's fry our brain and die in six months because we live in a town that could easily be mistaken for one of Satan's anal warts! Woohoo!"	Feb 17 20:48
MinceR	gn	Feb 17 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why should you consider using a Linux-based	Feb 17 21:20
TweetTuxMachines	system for music making? http://t.co/WnedxbYMLJ	Feb 17 21:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.musicradar.com)	Feb 17 21:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 17/2/2015: TripleO, Pivotal	Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/2pZIUruZKJ (techrights.org)	Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jqzul	Feb 17 21:21
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615391	Feb 18 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/why-should-you-consider-using-a-linux-based-system-for-music-making-616276/		Feb 18 03:56
schestowitz	"I LOVE LMMS."	Feb 18 03:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why should you consider using a Linux-based	Feb 18 03:59
TweetTuxMachines	system for music making? http://t.co/yIbtdqwe8E	Feb 18 03:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 03:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr22l	Feb 18 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 03:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On Steam	Feb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GvhzxZkoEb (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr25t	Feb 18 04:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| 2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On Steam \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kodi 14.2 Beta 1 Finally Fixes the Scanning of	Feb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines	Newly Added Episodes and More	Feb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7Uf3E6Yhj2 (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr25u	Feb 18 04:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Kodi 14.2 Beta 1 Finally Fixes the Scanning of Newly Added Episodes and More - Softpedia		Feb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenMorrowind Is an Ambitious Remake of The	Feb 18 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind for Linux	Feb 18 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/d0F50fQzEc (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr25v	Feb 18 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| OpenMorrowind Is an Ambitious Remake of The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind for Linux - Softpedia		Feb 18 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How Pebble Became The Cheapest Android	Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	Smartwatch Around http://t.co/nokV3W1uMG	Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	(readwrite.com)	Feb 18 04:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-readwrite.com \|		Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr2hq	Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Best Android-Based Messaging Apps for	Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	Enterprises http://t.co/ns8KftLagp	Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.junauza.com)	Feb 18 04:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.junauza.com \| Best Android-Based Messaging Apps for Enterprises \| TechSource		Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr2hr	Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "The KDE 5_15.02 increment contains the KDE	Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	Frameworks 5.7.0, Plasma 5.2.0 and Applications	Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	14.12.2." http://t.co/8j7dGkouhR	Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	(alien.slackbook.org)	Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr2ht	Feb 18 04:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org \| Alien Pastures » KDE 5_15.02 release for Slackware-current		Feb 18 04:46
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615018	Feb 18 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open Source Enters The Classroom http://talkincloud.com/cloud-computing/02172015/open-source-enters-classroom #education #freesw		Feb 18 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> talkincloud.com \| Open Source Enters The Classroom \| Cloud Computing content from Talkin' Cloud [ http://ur1.ca/jr2l5 ]		Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz	The author assumes the role of schooling is to prepare students to "enter the workforce" and that they "must ensure they teach students the skills that businesses want".	Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz	As an IT teacher, I think that's total bullshit. I have refused to teach proprietary software in my classes since 2001. I don't see my school as a training center.	Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz	For private businesses at taxpayers' expense	Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5607175	Feb 18 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #Systemd from #Debian (and still running a desktop) http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/		Feb 18 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lkcl.net \| Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]		Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz	"Today I do not feel like warring about systemd. =)"	Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz	"So.... which one's better? Emacs or Vi?"	Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz	nano	Feb 18 05:03
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615220	Feb 18 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #systemd https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html "notice the "responses" from the systemd crowd" -iophk		Feb 18 05:03
schestowitz	"Challenging people's religion."	Feb 18 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lists.debian.org \| Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jr2le ]		Feb 18 05:03
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611917	Feb 18 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Retroactively shielding E-mail from #surveillance is not possible. The #uk has had (for many years) US bases that harvest, retain all mail.		Feb 18 05:03
schestowitz	"sure, you only eliminate your own access or delete your own copy."	Feb 18 05:03
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660	Feb 18 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/		Feb 18 05:04
schestowitz	";-) that's why they have got this special logo - to surround and thereby highlite the problem... :-/ "	Feb 18 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/jqw71 ]		Feb 18 05:04
schestowitz	Smoking kills	Feb 18 05:04
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611853	Feb 18 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Learning from #redhat (and Fedora) staff that Red hat pushes patches from #nsa directly into #linux using redhatcom addresses was shocking.		Feb 18 05:04
schestowitz	"Playing cover for NSA? That is shocking. Your contact should go to Wikileaks with the evidence. If true, it's a betrayal to the whole free software community."	Feb 18 05:04
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 05:05
schestowitz	I would venture a guess that in most of the world outside of the US, the NSA is seen as a completely out of control orwellian nightmare, but as I said, at least the code is open source, documented, versioned and can be traced back to original authors, meaning it's a single-opportunity game: you can try to break the rules, but if we catch you just once, either because of code review or because a customer noticed spyware-like behaviour	Feb 18 05:05
schestowitz	when policing his network traffic, you're out forever.	Feb 18 05:05
schestowitz	We use AES, for example, under the same terms/circumstances.	Feb 18 05:05
schestowitz	There are much more worrying things like special spyware electronics on hard drives, motherboards and CPUs that aren't as easy to detect or weed out, like UEFI etc.	Feb 18 05:05
schestowitz	Choose what you worry about carefully: there's a lot more to worry about that there is worry to go around. ;)	Feb 18 05:05
schestowitz	"	Feb 18 05:05
schestowitz	Critical flaws do get found, even in FOSS. We need to check where they come from and why.	Feb 18 05:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Nvidia's Android-powered Shield tablet	Feb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	is actually great for gaming	Feb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rRyUCG4Raa (www.networkworld.com)	Feb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr2mo	Feb 18 05:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Review: Nvidia's Android-powered Shield tablet is great for gaming		Feb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KF5 Porting Progress https://t.co/BmdRKFXy73	Feb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	(kdepepo.wordpress.com)	Feb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr2mq	Feb 18 05:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdepepo.wordpress.com \| KF5 Porting Progress \| Keeping Computing Personal		Feb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.20 To Land VirtIO 1.0 Implementation	Feb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZnoMxThclD (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr2mr	Feb 18 05:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Linux 3.20 To Land VirtIO 1.0 Implementation - Phoronix		Feb 18 05:08
*TweetTuxMachines @Gaming_Central9 followed @tuxmachines		Feb 18 05:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Enea Linux and System Management on the	Feb 18 05:15
TweetTuxMachines	ARMv8-Based AMD Embedded R-Series Processor	Feb 18 05:15
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1Zl7bq8XAg (www.businesswire.com)	Feb 18 05:15
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr2oo	Feb 18 05:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE –	Feb 18 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	report http://t.co/azRXO0NsaM	Feb 18 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Feb 18 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE – report • The Register		Feb 18 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr2ti	Feb 18 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GCompris Complex App Ported to Ubuntu for	Feb 18 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	Phones http://t.co/3NWfeolcFQ	Feb 18 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GCompris Complex App Ported to Ubuntu for Phones - Softpedia		Feb 18 05:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Humble Weekly Bundle: For Lovers Is a Bizarre	Feb 18 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	Mix of Japanese Games and Real Pillowcases	Feb 18 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0iennIEHei (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr37f	Feb 18 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Humble Weekly Bundle: For Lovers Is a Bizarre Mix of Japanese Games and Real Pillowcases - Softpedia		Feb 18 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland	Feb 18 06:37
TweetTuxMachines	Support http://t.co/6PN3eqUhJ3	Feb 18 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 18 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr37g	Feb 18 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland Support - Phoronix		Feb 18 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20	Feb 18 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel http://t.co/yqRFol5PSF	Feb 18 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 18 06:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Mark Shuttleworth clearly feels that what	Feb 18 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	consumers and developers need, they will in	Feb 18 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	time learn to want." http://t.co/OCu0Ot4ySw	Feb 18 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techcentral.co.za)	Feb 18 06:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techcentral.co.za \| Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite? \| TechCentral		Feb 18 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu's foray into phones brings a fresh	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	approach, but will consumers take to it?	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)	Feb 18 06:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu's foray into phones brings a fresh	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	approach, but will consumers take to it?	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)	Feb 18 06:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NGINX: The secret heart of the modern web	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/THyZ0mpHrK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 06:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| NGINX: The secret heart of the modern web \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	Soon http://t.co/mV5oqJqZGM	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 06:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very Soon \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	Support http://t.co/7N4A2tAFSs	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 06:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel http://t.co/DSZFktQArX	Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 06:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite?	Feb 18 06:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OGLRr3MgZo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 06:45
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Sosumi	http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_edge_tops_geekbench_results-news-11239.php	Feb 18 10:01
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Sosumi	that new exymos powered S6 really promises	Feb 18 10:01
Sosumi	I just hope battery life is good	Feb 18 10:02
Sosumi	and that samsung isn't cheating benchmarks	Feb 18 10:02
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MinceR	http://www.cracked.com/article_22028_3-realities-life-as-gamer-in-modern-dictatorship.html	Feb 18 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com \| 3 Shocking Things You Realize as a Gamer in a Dictatorship \| Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/jr54d ]		Feb 18 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions	Feb 18 12:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TCNulVKWFp (www.oregonlive.com)	Feb 18 12:56
TweetTuxMachines	adding antifeatures not good. LOCs not a good	Feb 18 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oregonlive.com \| Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions \| OregonLive.com		Feb 18 12:56
TweetTuxMachines	yardstick.	Feb 18 12:56
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614232	Feb 18 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/17/cia-controlling-climate-geoengineering-climate-change #climate #warfare		Feb 18 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry \| Alan Robock \| Comment is free \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jr5j7 ]		Feb 18 13:23
schestowitz	"#WTF - The only thing I heard about this is NASA and Terraforming a planet."	Feb 18 13:23
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/568114361983569921	Feb 18 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Obvious concept & suspicion...but Case-in-Point, please.		Feb 18 13:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very	Feb 18 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	Soon http://t.co/wlMpiKuDqj	Feb 18 13:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very Soon - Softpedia		Feb 18 13:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions	Feb 18 13:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 ways to get involved with Humanitarian FOSS	Feb 18 13:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZKF5DcdONL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 13:58
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568132157824212992 https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568146863171497984 https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568147223625764864	Feb 18 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: 1st day at work fail RT @schestowitz: "Which moron wrote this brainless sh*t?" Martin Eller, Microsoft programmer about Bill Gates' own code		Feb 18 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz : )) I am sure he didn't! Otherwise I doubt he would have the guts to say so!		Feb 18 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz Funny incident anyways & a reminder that is better to ask before criticizing... ; )		Feb 18 15:39
cubexyz	Eller is an old old microsoftie	Feb 18 15:52
cubexyz	a pity the way things went... Unix should have won	Feb 18 15:53
cubexyz	it kind of did... but it kind of didn't	Feb 18 15:53
cubexyz	Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, funded (of course) by Microsoft	Feb 18 15:59
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cubexyz	btw Eller did say that.. read "Barbarians Led by Bill Gates" written by Edstrom and Eller himself	Feb 18 16:12
cubexyz	so technically we had an encumbered Western Electric License for Universities for Unix v5/v6 in 1975	Feb 18 16:15
cubexyz	two 9 track 800 bpi magnetic tapes, containing the binary code of Unix, plus source code, user manual, programmer's manual, c reference manual, unix assembler reference manual	Feb 18 16:16
cubexyz	so you could look at the source, play around with it, write programs on a PDP-11	Feb 18 16:17
cubexyz	but you technically could not share code with other people	Feb 18 16:18
cubexyz	a giant missed opportunity... Unix is closed off for a number of years, Microsoft rises up and a dark ages of computing occurs, probably until 2002 or so	Feb 18 16:19
cubexyz	no gcc until 1987	Feb 18 16:20
cubexyz	and I definitely remember hearing about it back then, but it was mostly the closed source era back then	Feb 18 16:21
cubexyz	so yeah, 25 year botch up in the operating system space	Feb 18 16:22
cubexyz	ACK, the original compiler for Minix, also closed source at the time	Feb 18 16:24
cubexyz	so yes, GNU gcc was a huge step forward	Feb 18 16:24
cubexyz	386 chip was released in 1985, so we _could_ have had a FOSS operating system in the 80's	Feb 18 16:29
cubexyz	but what did we actually get? Xenix for $$$ and your c compiler probably cost at least $200	Feb 18 16:31
cubexyz	that was in the late 80s	Feb 18 16:31
cubexyz	I suppose if you were rich you could have had Unix on a PDP-11/45 in the 1970s with all the source code for everything	Feb 18 16:32
cubexyz	but no community, not outside of Bell Labs	Feb 18 16:32
schestowitz	barcelona football team is here on tuesday to play man city, so you might wanna watch it. I'll be flying to germany when the game kicks off.	Feb 18 17:05
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5619788	Feb 18 17:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There is something #disturbing about #intel portraying itself as top FOSS player for merely giving self-serving patches to hardware-tied SW.		Feb 18 17:06
schestowitz	"Welcome to most contributions to the Linux kernel? That's par for the course."	Feb 18 17:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015]	Feb 18 17:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6EoBnPSI76 (www.linuxveda.com)	Feb 18 17:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!		Feb 18 17:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People	Feb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/hPaYf6sXIY	Feb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 17:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People Ubuntu Basics \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,	Feb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/8I2GUhPbgJ	Feb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 17:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19, Starting 9 AM CET \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving	Feb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	car project http://t.co/yShLsFMV2Z	Feb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 17:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving car project \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly	Feb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation	Feb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iIv90tuQ3i (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 18:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora Comes Bursting With Extras	Feb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0UeFeni7yY (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 18:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Korora Comes Bursting With Extras \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle"	Feb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	in its history." http://t.co/6bMwhUDLmF	Feb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	(arstechnica.com)	Feb 18 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Linux has 2,000 new developers and gets 10,000 patches for each version \| Ars Technica		Feb 18 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0?	Feb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CoLrEn6A6c (linuxgizmos.com) looks	Feb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines	likely at this stage	Feb 18 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0? · LinuxGizmos.com		Feb 18 18:04
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161604912746496 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161869967568896 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568162070753099776 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163197301202945	Feb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Killing in Washington State Offers ‘Ferguson’ Moment for Hispanics http://t.co/jB7ZIUc8dw highly disproportionate use of force by #police		Feb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times		Feb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Asymmetric warfare methods used by US military are now being pointed inwards, allowing #us #police to do more or less the same to USians		Feb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Finally, and most obviously, you have to start by building trust, which will necessarily require a transition" https://t.co/HA5ZKjVYc7		Feb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/02/17/the-secret-squirrels-pitching-countering-violent-extremism/ )		Feb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is Microsoft now providing journalists handouts to spread the lie that Microsoft loves Linux, OSS, etc.? It smacks of that.		Feb 18 18:08
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lightweight/status/568159923676127233 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163670041223168 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568172713157783552 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568173213534068736 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183180387323905	Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: If any of this is true, it shows that the Microsoft we know and don't love hasn't changed its stripes. http://t.co/AgoS83PHh9		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Microsoft Reportedly Uses Patent Blackmail Against Android to Force Samsung to Spread Microsoft Spyware (Incorporated Into Android) (Updated) \| Techrights		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #gigaom which was paid by #microsoft for secret ads continues to openwash the company. Om Malik, how much does #Nadella bribe you now?		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015] http://t.co/VTAPM7r2t1 very detailed		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com \| How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #linux fosters cooperation between companies http://t.co/uO6eTcWLbO http://t.co/bUhAr10bgh http://t.co/GgvUop8qVp		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com \| Linux Kernel Report: More Contributors Than Ever \| Linux.com		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com \| Who's writing Linux today? Capitalists \| ZDNet		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com \| More than 80% of Linux kernel development is paid by companies! - Linux Veda		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Those in Power learned from experience that (bar framing) by attacking those who publish documents & obey law they just legitimise them more		Feb 18 18:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183713554669568 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183976701140993 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568184152194981888	Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics http://t.co/IBvnFXCSn9 #freesw #hp		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.informationweek.com \| HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics - InformationWeek		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle" in its history." http://t.co/3sAFzLWSUs #kernel #linux		Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is #Linux heading toward the big 4.0? http://t.co/KdmSvPta3T looks likely at this stage		Feb 18 18:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/568185111201492993	Feb 18 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz @DefTechPat even worse, it sounds like they just don't care, if a hardcoded password saves them maintenance costs. 😣		Feb 18 18:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,	Feb 18 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/1rA3igF9ln	Feb 18 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com) http://t.co/vSGZFVWsys	Feb 18 18:19
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TweetTuxMachines	(linuxg.net)	Feb 18 18:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| The Next BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Flash Sale Starts Tomorrow At 9 AM CET \| LinuxG.net		Feb 18 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People	Feb 18 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/UnpMbJSvqs	Feb 18 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 18:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People Ubuntu Basics - Softpedia		Feb 18 18:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold	Feb 18 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	Member http://t.co/3Z7M3EnScu	Feb 18 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxveda.com) Wall Street betting on	Feb 18 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux Veda		Feb 18 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	linux as the future	Feb 18 18:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows up	Feb 18 18:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Q6CJLVC8QY (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 18 18:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows up \| ZDNet		Feb 18 18:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving	Feb 18 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	car project http://t.co/5GfvJ7eSOD	Feb 18 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Feb 18 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving car project · LinuxGizmos.com		Feb 18 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Korora Comes Bursting With Extras	Feb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1TVJNtWYyP (www.linuxinsider.com)	Feb 18 18:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com \| Korora Comes Bursting With Extras \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Feb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly	Feb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation	Feb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sJf9BLbyUS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 18:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation \| Tux Machines		Feb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Should Linux distro developers expect to be	Feb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	paid for their work? http://t.co/qzvYt5I2Sg	Feb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	(jimlynch.com) what elementaryos does is fine,	Feb 18 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com \| Should Linux distro developers expect to be paid for their work? \| Jim Lynch		Feb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	working was poor	Feb 18 18:31
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msb	cubexyz: I remember a lot of C code being broadcast on Usenet, I think in the 1980s, and archived on Simtel20 at White Sands AFB (I think).	Feb 18 19:00
msb	cubexyz: It was for Unix.	Feb 18 19:00
cubexyz	yes simtel20 which originally ran on TOPS-20, but now defunct	Feb 18 19:08
cubexyz	it's on http://archive.org	Feb 18 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org \| Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine		Feb 18 19:09
cubexyz	but archive.org is down at the moment	Feb 18 19:09
cubexyz	lots of unix v5 era code was lost	Feb 18 19:17
cubexyz	I've tried to find some for the last 4 years	Feb 18 19:17
msb	I think this open-source code was developed and used by Unix users in universities -- an early Unix community.	Feb 18 19:18
cubexyz	there's some usenix tapes	Feb 18 19:19
msb	cubexyz: Isn't there an alternate archive.org in South America somewhere?	Feb 18 19:20
cubexyz	msb, you have a URL for that?	Feb 18 19:22
msb	cubexyz: I'm looking for one.	Feb 18 19:22
msb	The wiki article on archive.org says it has a backup in Bibliotheca Alexandrina in Egypt. Maybe that's it.	Feb 18 19:24
msb	archive.bibalex.org	Feb 18 19:25
cubexyz	ok, archive.org is back now :)	Feb 18 19:28
msb	this is the ancient one -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria -- destroyed at various times by Romans and Christians.	Feb 18 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jr7u2 ]		Feb 18 19:31
msb	Mentioned in _Cosmos_ by Carl Sagan.	Feb 18 19:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is Better	Feb 18 19:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/dTFeOH2JJc (www.gottabemobile.com)	Feb 18 19:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com \| Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is Better		Feb 18 19:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date	Feb 18 19:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pBpDp9U8q7 (www.maximumpc.com)	Feb 18 19:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maximumpc.com \| Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date \| Maximum PC		Feb 18 19:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the	Feb 18 19:33
TweetTuxMachines	Skies http://t.co/WyFbLWkSK8 (www.linux.com)	Feb 18 19:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies \| Linux.com		Feb 18 19:33
cubexyz	destroyed at various times? Destroyed more than once?	Feb 18 19:33
msb	cubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#Destruction	Feb 18 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/g49b6 ]		Feb 18 19:34
msb	various parts and sets of books.	Feb 18 19:34
msb	Moslems finished the job in 642, because the remaining books weren't the Koran.	Feb 18 19:35
msb	JCI religion is the scourge of mankind.	Feb 18 19:36
MinceR	> religion is the scourge of mankind.	Feb 18 19:36
MinceR	FTFY	Feb 18 19:36
cubexyz	I'll settle for some Unix v5 source code	Feb 18 19:36
msb	No -- Wicca is beneficial.	Feb 18 19:36
cubexyz	Unix version 1 was almost lost, part of it was	Feb 18 19:37
cubexyz	the only reason why we have part of it is that there was a book that had the source code listings	Feb 18 19:38
cubexyz	magtape isn't too great for long-term storage	Feb 18 19:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date	Feb 18 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gpPoAimhph (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 19:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr7ws	Feb 18 19:42
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msb	Poettering: "Just the other day, some idiot posted a "song" on youtube, a creepy work, filled with expletives about me and suggestions of violence."	Feb 18 19:58
msb	I can't find it. Anybody have it?	Feb 18 19:59
MinceR	never heard of it	Feb 18 19:59
msb	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0aTqsl-vfU	Feb 18 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Systemd Blues: Took our thing (Wooo) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jr83c ]		Feb 18 20:12
msb	"You took our thing and now we ain't got it no more"	Feb 18 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Systemd Gets An Fsck Daemon/Service	Feb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/n8NFPxFYvr (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr88b	Feb 18 20:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the	Feb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	Skies http://t.co/2SI1cUhEF5	Feb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr88c	Feb 18 20:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects	Feb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	Google's Material Design http://t.co/Z12CqR8vLe	Feb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 18 20:32
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr88d	Feb 18 20:32
MinceR	gn	Feb 18 20:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 18/2/2015: Linux Report, FlightGear 3.4	Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7depUCZN4J (techrights.org)	Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr8dx	Feb 18 20:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects	Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	Google's Material Design http://t.co/VLdtbhhwjm	Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr8dy	Feb 18 20:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/vp2QXHfsA6	Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr8dz	Feb 18 20:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/hMJz5f5AIr	Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr8e0	Feb 18 20:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/hxwRwJGRRN	Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr8e1	Feb 18 20:57
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2CJT4UEKKJRK	Feb 18 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The State of Wisconsin had its budget trashed by Governor Scott Walker to the point that it will have to default now. [ http://ur1.ca/jr94j ]		Feb 18 22:57
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msb	It's just a simple business deal. Rich people give the politicians money, and the pols lower their taxes. Nobody else matters.	Feb 18 23:10
msb	But it's important to remember that Democrat politicians often do similar things to serve the rich, e.g., attacking Palestine, Serbia, Libya, Ukraine, Venezuela.	Feb 18 23:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/My9JY4FG68	Feb 18 23:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 18 23:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jr998	Feb 18 23:16
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621836	Feb 19 03:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Over time fewer people grasp that Russia lost around x20 more than US in WW2 (people), US came very late to claim landslide victory		Feb 19 03:15
schestowitz__	"After having spent considerable time playing both sides of the fence until it was no longer fashionable, and then "winning" by being the only "peaceful" nation to use nuclear weapons."	Feb 19 03:15
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621898	Feb 19 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To portray #intel as company that deserves credit for #linux rise is misleading. Linux was rising, Intel co-opts it. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel		Feb 19 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Intel - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/jraln ]		Feb 19 03:16
schestowitz__	"Well at least they are participating!"	Feb 19 03:16
schestowitz__	"Microsoft participates too! :)'	Feb 19 03:16
schestowitz__	The "new Microsoft"	Feb 19 03:16
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621993	Feb 19 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/810883-dronecode-taking-the-internet-to-the-skies/ #dronecode #linux #freesw		Feb 19 03:17
schestowitz__	" "What we essentially did was weaponize Lego with my children around the dining room table," Anderson said."	Feb 19 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com \| Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies \| Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/jralx ]		Feb 19 03:17
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622092	Feb 19 03:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nike is now patenting software http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/fashion/nike-patents-augmented-reality-shoe-design-system-article-1.2118548 #swpats from an evil company (lots of abuses)		Feb 19 03:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nydailynews.com \| Nike patents augmented reality shoe design software - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/jram5 ]		Feb 19 03:18
schestowitz__	"I wonder how this will affect what is happening in the world of Doc M's"	Feb 19 03:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux Kernel	Feb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines	Report http://t.co/DJfY77ndNS (www.linux.com)	Feb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb5k	Feb 19 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux Kernel Report \| Linux.com		Feb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The 8 best desktop environments for Linux	Feb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/R7bmoBNsLM (www.itworld.com)	Feb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb5l	Feb 19 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com \| The 8 best desktop environments for Linux \| ITworld		Feb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition	Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	Phone Starts in Less than an Hour	Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7OHcrbAARm (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb94	Feb 19 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Phone Starts in Less than an Hour - Update - Softpedia		Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release Adds	Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy Fixes	Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/93TvEbga5n (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb95	Feb 19 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release Adds Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy Fixes - Softpedia		Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default Document	Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	Viewer App, Released http://t.co/kN49e0kqK6	Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrb96	Feb 19 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default Document Viewer App, Released - Softpedia		Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appears	Feb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	– but we have no idea what’s in store	Feb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Z0547Imsoa (bgr.com)	Feb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrba3	Feb 19 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appears – but we have no idea what’s in store \| BGR		Feb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Decrypt Android Wear with these 16 essential	Feb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	tips and tricks http://t.co/z65UPQUmDL	Feb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com)	Feb 19 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| 16 Essential Android Wear Tips and Tricks \| Digital Trends		Feb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrba4	Feb 19 05:20
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition...'		Feb 19 05:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel build times for automated builders	Feb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Dp1z1KFsfT (www.sirena.org.uk) an	Feb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines	interesting comparison for linux	Feb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdf	Feb 19 05:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sirena.org.uk \| Kernel build times for automated builders < Technicalities		Feb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First Person	Feb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines	Horror Will Support Linux	Feb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/peUmqHgQOR (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdg	Feb 19 05:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First Person Horror Will Support Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements for	Feb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	Windows Management and More	Feb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/E2mSk5oVLE (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdh	Feb 19 05:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements for Windows Management and More - Softpedia		Feb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance and	Feb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	Battery Life	Feb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zJJd6Gl2Hk (www.techspot.com)	Feb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrbdi	Feb 19 05:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techspot.com \| Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance and Battery Life - TechSpot		Feb 19 05:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621937	Feb 19 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be infeasible for the #cia to drive around sceptical nations with cameras, photographing everything and harvesting MAC addresses.		Feb 19 05:54
schestowitz	"Google cars were fined in France for sniffing WiFi years ago"	Feb 19 05:54
schestowitz	maybe after the data collected had been copied via PRISM to entities that cannot be fined or have their data erased	Feb 19 05:55
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622064	Feb 19 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "You can see propaganda being manufactured before your eyes" http://fair.org/blog/2015/02/18/most-americans-agree-that-netanyahu-the-only-one-who-can-save-the-puppy-should-save-the-puppy/ #zionism in #bloomberg		Feb 19 06:06
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 06:06
schestowitz	A CNN/ORC poll suggests that a large majority opposes the invitation. Further, according to the poll, support for Israel is dwindling.	Feb 19 06:06
schestowitz	http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/17/politics/poll-netanyahu-speech-opposition/	Feb 19 06:06
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 06:06
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621007	Feb 19 06:07
schestowitz	"Fake fight, fake narrative, to roll-out (announce) 1984. I need Google (what a fun name; maybe they should spell it with goofy fonts and lots of colors...)... I need Google to look after my privacy, and other rights, like a ho needs a pimp's protection and bookkeeping services."	Feb 19 06:07
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621071	Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fair.org \| Most Americans Agree That Netanyahu, the Only One Who Can Save the Puppy, Should Save the Puppy [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjx ]		Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnn.com \| CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjy ]		Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/google-calls-fbi-s-plan-to-expand-hacking-power-a-monumental-constitutional-threat-20150218 painting self as "resistor"		Feb 19 06:07
schestowitz	"Holder is a pig."	Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nationaljournal.com \| Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat - NationalJournal.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjz ]		Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ericholder a hypocrite that carries water for Power http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/17/eric-holder-death-penalty_n_6701062.html he doesn't really care about innocents. #drones #risen		Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com \| Eric Holder: Moratorium On Death Penalty 'Would Be Appropriate' Pending Supreme Court Decision [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk0 ]		Feb 19 06:07
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621753	Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/02/18/bloomberg-joins-linux-foundation-as-gold-member/ Wall Street betting on #linux as the future		Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com \| Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux Veda [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk3 ]		Feb 19 06:08
schestowitz	"Barf"	Feb 19 06:08
schestowitz	Indeed, but at least it helps Linux	Feb 19 06:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614505	Feb 19 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 3 white people planning mass murder in a mall and then shooting themselves not much different from suicide bombing. Canada says not terror.		Feb 19 06:08
schestowitz	"The media assumes gamers are misogynist terrorists, so I'm not surprised at that. Still doesn't mean we should extend the definition just so that anyone also could be "legitimately" be called terrorists."	Feb 19 06:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Beam's Android-powered projector fits in your	Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	light sockets http://t.co/iFmxYfzaHD	Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	(www.engadget.com)	Feb 19 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com \| Beam's Android-powered projector fits in your light sockets		Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrblo	Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen Systems	Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	Might Get a Linux Version	Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rExpoDNUOy (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	nice graphics.	Feb 19 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen Systems Might Get a Linux Version - Softpedia		Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrblp	Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux kernel is the biggest collaborative	Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	software project on the planet"	Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aSFAlYmvZS (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrblq	Feb 19 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| The Linux Foundation Shows Us Just How Massive the Kernel Development Really Is - Softpedia		Feb 19 06:17
msb	Netanyahu speech: "it's not hard to get many people to respond the way you want to a loaded question" especially when they've been flooded with 60+ years of lying Zionist propaganda in all their newspapers and broadcast media.	Feb 19 07:10
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 07:21
schestowitz	Our first case deals with Mr. Rikard Frgacic.	Feb 19 07:21
schestowitz	We sent you some background stuff about this previously but here's a short recap.	Feb 19 07:21
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 07:21
MinceR	geekings	Feb 19 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese New	Feb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	Year http://t.co/D39b1hCbtW (techrights.org)	Feb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc3c	Feb 19 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese New Year \| Techrights		Feb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent	Feb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	increase http://t.co/6nVelQaIzo	Feb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc3e	Feb 19 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent increase \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/mKmM4yD0y2	Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5d	Feb 19 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/eamP4UbThA	Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5e	Feb 19 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/cXiLWGnfGa	Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5f	Feb 19 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19	Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	Very Soon http://t.co/VaYzfl4Fz8	Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrc5g	Feb 19 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19 Very Soon \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 08:04
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schestowitz	"We hope that the above comments will be of some assistance to you in evaluating any material that you get about these cases."	Feb 19 08:17
schestowitz	heh. I got a great article coming...	Feb 19 08:17
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schestowitz	"What can you tell the waiting public about the Microsoft associates on the board of the Linux Foundation"	Feb 19 10:25
schestowitz	"Are they on the Board?"	Feb 19 10:25
schestowitz	"I got this from Tech Rights which was a little unclear on the subject"	Feb 19 10:25
schestowitz	They are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worse	Feb 19 10:26
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/can-suepo-sue-epo-it-now-seems-so.html	Feb 19 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk \| The IPKat: Can SUEPO sue EPO? It now seems so ... [ http://ur1.ca/jrcym ]		Feb 19 10:26
schestowitz	" A translation of the decision will make very interesting reading, sending EPAs scurrying to read those parts of the Convention which they have in the past ignored. Does the Protocol Article 3(4) restrict the immunity only to those activities of the EPO "strictly necessary for its administrative and technical operation"? We shall see. Interesting reference to the Srebrenica decision as well."	Feb 19 10:26
schestowitz	" Yes,Merpel, your understanding of the document is correct. An appeal against this decision (to be lodged with the Hoge Raad) cannot result in the overturning of the finding of the Gerechtshof, unless a procedural violation has been committed by the latter. The Hoge Raad can only cassate a decision (beslissing) if the second instance did not apply the law correctly."	Feb 19 10:26
schestowitz	"This is a great day. "	Feb 19 10:26
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz	I think that's the begining of the end of Battistelli reign.	Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz	When it will explode, it will create a scandal bigger that the Edith Cresson scandal (another French) at the European Commission in 1999. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/1425715/Cresson-charged-four-years-after-European-Union-fraud-scandal.html).	Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz	Edith Cresson only appointed a friend (and it created a scandal).... Battistelli does 100 times worst.	Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk \| Cresson charged four years after European Union fraud scandal - Telegraph		Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz	As we read the various comments from the anonymice, keep in mind, dear Reader, that a comment that gives every appearance of coming from an EPO Examiner might in fact be disinformation coming from a crony of the President. And vice versa, of course.	Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz	Already there is stuff on the other thread that seems to come from SUEPO head-bangers. Does it really? I'm skeptical.	Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz	LOL	Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz	"They are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worse"	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	Other correspondants have confirmed this	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	here is a Fwd:-	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	"A quick surf shows they joined the Allseen Alliance, which is an IoT	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	group, which is managed by the LF.	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	I don't see them listed on the LF members page itself though - so they	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	may have joined an LF sub-group but not the LF as a whole (that is,	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	paying the LF membership etc.).	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	Graham "	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	yes, indeed	Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz	Don't forget OpenDaylight and Foundry	Feb 19 10:39
schestowitz	Neela and Ramji	Feb 19 10:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/568436956830380032	Feb 19 10:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz It's amazing that Microsoft still manages to dominate large hardware-oriented corporations. That indicates limited competition!		Feb 19 10:50
schestowitz	Some hardware companies like HP are stuffed to the rim (at exec level) with 'former' Microsoft execs	Feb 19 10:51
cubexyz	HP used to have their own minicomputers	Feb 19 10:57
cubexyz	HP-UX is still being updated	Feb 19 11:00
cubexyz	actually the 'old' HP was Unix friendly	Feb 19 11:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/johnmarker005/status/568439201655492608	Feb 19 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnmarker005: @schestowitz Kindly retweet this amazing Google-patent pending lock screen app:https://t.co/PHjzjXlPOP Video:https://t.co/qChtLcAZJ7		Feb 19 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> play.google.com \| App Locker with Guest Mode - Android Apps on Google Play		Feb 19 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com \| Smart Screen Plus Application Locker - Why do you need one - YouTube		Feb 19 11:02
cubexyz	HP used to support Redhat & SUSE and they had a Unix support program in Greeley Colorado	Feb 19 11:03
cubexyz	that was disbanded in August 1st, 2001	Feb 19 11:03
cubexyz	PCL (for printers) and SCL (for scanners) was completely supported in Unix/Linux	Feb 19 11:04
cubexyz	and guess what happened?	Feb 19 11:07
cubexyz	SCL was discontinued...	Feb 19 11:07
cubexyz	PCL 6 was optimized for windows	Feb 19 11:07
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cubexyz	I think PCL 6 is still supported by CUPS though	Feb 19 11:08
cubexyz	PCL 6 'enhanced' was designed to match the drawing model of Windows GDI	Feb 19 11:08
cubexyz	all this was foreshadowed in the Halloween Documents	Feb 19 11:09
cubexyz	so old Microsofties at HP exec level does not surprise me at all	Feb 19 11:11
cubexyz	also blame RealTek for some of this nonsense...	Feb 19 11:12
cubexyz	RTS8891 chip had no programming documentation, typical of post 2001 scanners	Feb 19 11:12
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cubexyz	on the other side of the coin Epson scanners all just work with Linux	Feb 19 11:15
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cubexyz	maybe the old Microsofties will kill off HP-UX	Feb 19 11:23
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cubexyz	here's an idea... why doesn't the FSF start making their own hardware :)	Feb 19 11:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/568450899665924096	Feb 19 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: Microsoft's Trojan horse strategy to rule the world http://t.co/je6nIlO3oI cc/@schestowitz #TheCloudIsTheAPI #FogComputing		Feb 19 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techrepublic.com \| Microsoft's Trojan horse strategy to rule the world - TechRepublic		Feb 19 11:45
cubexyz	just don't give Microsoft any money	Feb 19 11:51
cubexyz	there's a simple rule :)	Feb 19 11:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrock/status/568454886230077440	Feb 19 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz I'm thinking "Linux" should engulf Microsoft and take on Mac OS X.		Feb 19 12:07
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'The 8 best desktop environments for Linux http://t.co/R7bmoBNsLM'		Feb 19 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com \| The 8 best desktop environments for Linux \| ITworld		Feb 19 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma Media Center at Plasma Sprint 2015	Feb 19 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/85sbn1MtcC (bhush9.github.io)	Feb 19 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	great writing style.	Feb 19 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrdq6	Feb 19 12:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent	Feb 19 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	increase http://t.co/Bfmc4BcE97	Feb 19 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.itproportal.com)	Feb 19 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrdq7	Feb 19 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com \| Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent increase \| ITProPortal.com		Feb 19 12:20
Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-honestly-thought-youd-enjoy-that-superfish-https-spyware/	Feb 19 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Lenovo honestly thought you’d enjoy that Superfish HTTPS spyware \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jrdrl ]		Feb 19 12:25
Sosumi	lol	Feb 19 12:25
XFaCE	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptops	Feb 19 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org \| Lenovo Is Breaking HTTPS Security on its Recent Laptops \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jrdpa ]		Feb 19 12:31
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cubexyz	well if you blank out the hard drive and install Linux/BSD/Plan9 etc I assume that gets rid of superfish?	Feb 19 13:17
cubexyz	hopefully it's not in the BIOS or other firmware	Feb 19 13:18
MinceR	indeed	Feb 19 13:19
MinceR	or if you get a thinkpad	Feb 19 13:19
MinceR	at least one site said it's only on the consumer models	Feb 19 13:19
MinceR	http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/	Feb 19 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com \| Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]		Feb 19 13:19
MinceR	this one	Feb 19 13:19
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cubexyz	looks like OS level stuff	Feb 19 13:21
MinceR	unlike the NSA malware :>	Feb 19 13:23
MinceR	(the one in the HDD firmware, that is)	Feb 19 13:23
cubexyz	nasty	Feb 19 13:25
cubexyz	they don't even know if it's NSA or black hats	Feb 19 13:27
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cubexyz	or both I suppose	Feb 19 13:27
MinceR	the NSA _is_ black hats	Feb 19 13:27
cubexyz	yes	Feb 19 13:28
MinceR	they've been undermining the security of software used by the taxpayers whom they parasitize	Feb 19 13:28
cubexyz	one article mentions nls_933w.dll	Feb 19 13:28
cubexyz	so it seems they are reprogramming the hard drive with customized firmware via some dll	Feb 19 13:30
cubexyz	check your boot loader for tampering	Feb 19 13:31
cubexyz	if the code is not removal by flashing there's definitely a problem	Feb 19 13:33
cubexyz	I mean if they _are_ reprogramming firmware, then it's flashable then it's removable too	Feb 19 13:34
cubexyz	storing itself in hidden sectors of the hard drive, that's clever	Feb 19 13:36
cubexyz	survives disk formatting and os reinstalls	Feb 19 13:37
cubexyz	also... this is interesting too... piezo-electric shock sensors know if your hard drive has been dropped	Feb 19 13:42
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cubexyz	MinceR, not that I'm recommending Lenovo, but they do have one netbook without an OS	Feb 19 13:49
cubexyz	I hear they are storing windows 8 product keys in the BIOS now, yet another thing to consider	Feb 19 13:51
XRevan86	cubexyz: SLIC is the name.	Feb 19 13:52
XRevan86	(but actually it's MSDM)	Feb 19 13:52
cubexyz	when did that start?	Feb 19 13:54
cubexyz	I assume it's recent	Feb 19 13:54
XRevan86	cubexyz: Visnu	Feb 19 13:55
XRevan86	(visnu (russian): be hanged/freezed)	Feb 19 13:56
cubexyz	lol, ok I thought you might have meant Vista :)	Feb 19 13:56
cubexyz	thanks for the clarification	Feb 19 13:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19	Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	Very Soon http://t.co/kSYbbsv74a	Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jreev	Feb 19 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19 Very Soon - Softpedia		Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/T0H1fs1Nes	Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jreew	Feb 19 14:01
*TweetTuxMachines @spartan_ix followed @tuxmachines		Feb 19 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First	Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	ARMv8 Board http://t.co/i5eRI0GuQ8	Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jreey	Feb 19 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First ARMv8 Board \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/21DJABO83d	Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jreez	Feb 19 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold	Feb 19 14:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Wnit2Ivasc (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 14:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jref0	Feb 19 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 14:02
XRevan86	Oh my, I just remembered what I have seen this morning (GMT+3)	Feb 19 14:02
XRevan86	http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-mate	Feb 19 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.ubuntu.com \| Ubuntu – Package Search Results -- ubuntu-mate [ http://ur1.ca/jref6 ]		Feb 19 14:02
XRevan86	Apparently Ubuntu MATE is now an official flavour	Feb 19 14:03
cubexyz	XRevan86, I hear you can get the license key (if you really must) via:	Feb 19 14:10
cubexyz	ls /sys/firmware/acpi/tables	Feb 19 14:10
XRevan86	cubexyz: That is correct :).	Feb 19 14:10
cubexyz	my computer is too old for that stuff anyways	Feb 19 14:11
XRevan86	Mine had OEM Linpus	Feb 19 14:11
XRevan86	cubexyz: Still, I know some stuff about it because my friend gave me an OEM key which I gave to my sister :)	Feb 19 14:11
XRevan86	cubexyz: Other important thing is that OEM Windows should never be booted.	Feb 19 14:15
XRevan86	this action locks the key to hardware	Feb 19 14:15
cubexyz	well I try my best not to do that :)	Feb 19 14:15
cubexyz	in the old days I just assembled white box PCs	Feb 19 14:16
cubexyz	amazing the influence microsoft has on hardware manufacturers	Feb 19 14:18
cubexyz	it's insidious	Feb 19 14:18
msb	Upgrade of HTTP protocol coming: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/18/http2-speed-up-web-browsing-desktop-mobile	Feb 19 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| What is HTTP/2 and is it going to speed up the web? \| Technology \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jrexq ]		Feb 19 15:29
XRevan86	msb: Indeed.	Feb 19 15:29
msb	Hope it doesn't interfere with Ad-Blocker!	Feb 19 15:30
XRevan86	msb: I doubt that :).	Feb 19 15:30
msb	I went to look at an article posted here about desktop environments, and it was showing one page at a time with ads. The first ad showed bug larvae moving around. I decided I didn't need to read it.	Feb 19 15:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP Targets Cisco and Facebook With New Line of	Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	Open-Source Networking Gear	Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Scl0GKU1s9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf20	Feb 19 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| HP Targets Cisco and Facebook With New Line of Open-Source Networking Gear \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many	Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	Things Needed Fixing http://t.co/atSokVslDY	Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf23	Feb 19 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many Things Needed Fixing \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS	Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	Designed for Creative People	Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/by6SxQfD7E (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf24	Feb 19 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A developer's guide to getting into open source	Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QToS4UpKK0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf25	Feb 19 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A developer's guide to getting into open source \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Lumina Desktop 0.8.2 Released!	Feb 19 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/eChU08iRz4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf26	Feb 19 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Lumina Desktop 0.8.2 Released! \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://t.co/5vV90nMVBx (www.x.org) X Server	Feb 19 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.10	Feb 19 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org \| xorg		Feb 19 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/B6Skfp5HSf (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrf27	Feb 19 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| X.Org X Server Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 15:46
MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/SBUUn87.jpg	Feb 19 16:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel	Feb 19 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	Releases http://t.co/jrUjFmfCoP	Feb 19 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 16:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrfbf	Feb 19 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel Releases \| Tux Machines		Feb 19 16:20
*TweetTuxMachines @JESSICA_HUFF favourited 'Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux...'		Feb 19 16:20
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer commented on an article.	Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFC	5 mins ·	Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFC	A load of bull**** closed down an exit ramp off of I-65.	Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFC	On the way to or from the governor's office?	Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFC	http://www.jconline.com/story/news/2015/02/19/frozen-fecal-matter-closes-exit-ramp/23685539/?fb_action_ids=316930078517030&fb_action_types=og.comments	Feb 19 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jconline.com \| Frozen fecal matter closes I-65 exit ramp [ http://ur1.ca/jrgov ]		Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer commented on an article.	Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFC	26 mins ·	Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFC	At least the Republicans are finally regulating some women that they all have first hand experience with. (Except for the ones that prefer to meet young men on Craigslist and try to pay them off with their wristwatch and iPad. grin)	Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFC	http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/02/19/indiana-strippers-face-state-licensing-under-senate-bill/23674199/?fb_action_ids=316885015188203&fb_action_types=og.comments	Feb 19 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indystar.com \| Will bill to regulate Indiana strippers curb sex trafficking? [ http://ur1.ca/jrgp0 ]		Feb 19 19:55
MinceR	poosicle :D	Feb 19 19:56
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MinceR	s/oo/oop/	Feb 19 19:57
DaemonFC	It had to be frozen so it would get to Governor Pence good and fresh.	Feb 19 20:14
DaemonFC	Maybe they were going to make a statue of him out of it.	Feb 19 20:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS	Feb 19 20:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@JESSICA_HUFF http://t.co/by6SxQfD7E (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 19 20:24
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DaemonFC`	Ryan Farmer Whenever I read anything that a religious fundamentalist has said, my brain feels like someone sprayed Vicks Chloraseptic Spray all over it. for about 10 minutes. It's the strangest sensation.	Feb 19 20:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 19/2/2015: Hewlett-Packard on Cumulus	Feb 19 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, Previews of GNOME 3.16 Beta	Feb 19 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yhwu4lvScU (techrights.org)	Feb 19 20:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines XOrg X Server Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu	Feb 19 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	14.10 http://t.co/l0NF5Jlmp0	Feb 19 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 20:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Enlist in the Android Army: A beginner’s guide	Feb 19 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	to Android http://t.co/UIwKQFHD4b	Feb 19 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com) defector from apple to	Feb 19 20:41
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TweetTuxMachines	android linux	Feb 19 20:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrgzb	Feb 19 20:41
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622078	Feb 19 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: it is a sad fact that honest, independent sites often perish whereas those that sell out for company/plutocrat thrive, hire, spread more		Feb 19 20:44
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 20:44
schestowitz	As wealth is concentrated, power is concentrated. The plutocrats control all the wealth, so they control all the advertising and the advertising funded press. Press concentration brings yet more power to those who already have too much.	Feb 19 20:44
schestowitz	Anti-trust laws and laws against media consolidation in the US have broken down almost completely.	Feb 19 20:44
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 20:44
schestowitz	I didn't know there were such laws at all	Feb 19 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Boxes 3.16 Will Bring a Cool Welcome	Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	Screen and Numerous Improvements	Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RjjFvn3PKl (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 20:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cheese 3.16 Beta Brings Warning Fixes and Code	Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	Cleanup http://t.co/TbfOXtW3PR	Feb 19 20:46
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrh0k	Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Unity 8 Continues Working Towards Proper	Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	Desktop Support http://t.co/QlvfXI85aB	Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 19 20:46
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621970	Feb 19 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ect are still scumbags without tact. They ask #microsoft mouthpiece Rob Enderle for 'analysis' of #google http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/81722.html?rss=1 [1/2]		Feb 19 20:47
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schestowitz	"Oh, that guy. http://archive09.linux.com/articles/38081 https://web.archive.org/web/20040928043900/http://pl.caldera.com/2004forum/agenda/Enderle_keynote_SCO-Forum2004.html"	Feb 19 20:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org \| Rob Enderle Keynote Address [ http://ur1.ca/jrh10 ]		Feb 19 20:47
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 20:48
schestowitz	In his speech, Enderle said of Groklaw: "The site is supported by a marketing executive whose future is tied to the future of Linux and has strong political skills." I asked Pamela Jones (PJ to Groklaw regulars) if this were true. She replied:	Feb 19 20:48
schestowitz	I'm not a marketing exec. He makes these things up, I guess. I also, as you know, do not work for or with IBM. I've stated so publicly, including in a letter to the editor for ZDNet, when they asked me to do so the last time this came up.	Feb 19 20:48
schestowitz	A simple Google search would have cleared up this matter, had he done one, so I see no excuse for him to say reckless, inaccurate things. I don't understand why anyone would say untrue things about someone. It's terribly wrong, in my view, and I feel he should apologize.	Feb 19 20:48
schestowitz	I'm just me. Groklaw is me. Me plus a large community that cares. Groklaw just tipped the 7,000 member mark, and it is still growing. That's all there is to it. I gather he imagines Groklaw is too good to be by little ole me, a nobody. Surely IBM must be behind it. But they aren't. Groklaw is a voice from the community, and if we are so effective that SCO and their gang feel they must attack Groklaw, I'm glad. But they should stick to	Feb 19 20:48
schestowitz	the truth.	Feb 19 20:48
schestowitz	Of course, a girl could get positively tuckered out trying to teach the SCO group manners.	Feb 19 20:48
schestowitz	"	Feb 19 20:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Files (Nautilus) 3.16 Beta 1 Is Out and Ready	Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	For Testing	Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qMw941ntBW (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 20:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Say hi to cuttlefish! http://t.co/J4eJblsbTw	Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	(vizzzion.org)	Feb 19 20:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vizzzion.org \| Say hi to cuttlefish! « vizZzion.org :: sebas' blog		Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ETC2 Decoding Support In Mesa's Gallium3D For	Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	Freedreno http://t.co/NUwmdLAJUr	Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 19 20:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Getting Fedora 21 on the Raspberry Pi 2	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7aS9KnTNmt (error)	Feb 19 21:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu OS Firmware For The Aquaris E4.5 Now	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	Available To Download And Install	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/y5BVQxZaAo (androidheadlines.com)	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	linux	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrhei	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution Now	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	Supports Ubuntu Snappy Core	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 21:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Toshiba Laptops To Have Improved Support In	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	Linux 3.20 http://t.co/kawUmqXp3G	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrhel	Feb 19 21:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 review: Android Wear can be	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	remarkably unremarkable http://t.co/zBPpAFFbg0	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theverge.com)	Feb 19 21:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "PC preloaded with Wind River’s Linux-based IDP	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	XT IoT gateway stack running on quad- or	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	dual-core Atoms."	Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kwMpep8ZVR (linuxgizmos.com)	Feb 19 21:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/0uROvL2i8d	Feb 19 21:55
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DaemonFC	Controlled Opposition says:	Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFC	Why should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos.	Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFC	If we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.	Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFC	Controlled Opposition says:	Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFC	Why should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos.	Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFC	If we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.	Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFC	oops	Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFC	Did you meet an 18 year old man in a hotel room for a really good time while being an outspoken anti-gay Republican? :)	Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFC	It's not really the part about meeting an 18 year old in a hotel room that bothers me. I mean, 18 year olds know what they're doing. He knew he was going to have some Republican's nasty old balls all over him, and that was his choice. Eww. It's the whole anti-gay Republican part. Be one or the other. You know? :)	Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFC	Then, to top it all off, he got away with the "I spoke with God and he says I've been forgiven." thing, and the people who voted for him because he was sponsoring the anti-gay marriage amendment idea re-elected him.	Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFC	Of course, that was before the state went to court and got the gay marriage ban thrown out as unconstitutional. Now they're not even debating passing the amendment because they'd rather the entire issue go away without costing the state another $400,000 to defend another unconstitutional ban.	Feb 19 22:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/9bIbCR1HmS	Feb 19 23:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution Now	Feb 19 23:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@ColoDeskSpace http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 19 23:51
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984	Feb 20 04:13
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984	Feb 20 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suffert: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://t.co/kz8JNpKt3a via @schestowitz		Feb 20 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com \| Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com		Feb 20 04:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568665907704131584 https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568666303663357953	Feb 20 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz didn't it start with minix? depends how far you want to go I guess		Feb 20 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz is it ethical to change tv channel? seems like a no brainer to me		Feb 20 04:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines News coverage from linux events (of which	Feb 20 04:19
TweetTuxMachines	there's plenty at present)	Feb 20 04:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wCNBBu7Zoh (www.linux.com)	Feb 20 04:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wNhr6Brkae (fossforce.com)	Feb 20 04:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 10 Great Quotes on PaaS and Containers from Collab Summit 2015 \| Linux.com		Feb 20 04:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Getting Things Started at SCALE 13x \| FOSS Force		Feb 20 04:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Proprietary android apps on a proprietary	Feb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	platform? No thanks, BlackBerry	Feb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WVdh6RSTk4 (www.reuters.com)	Feb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VX0up7dhsW (recode.net)	Feb 20 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com \| BlackBerry updates software, offers access to Android apps \| Reuters		Feb 20 04:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-recode.net \| BlackBerry Update Offers Access to Android Apps \| Re/code		Feb 20 04:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Handset makers test Android's reign	Feb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ROHQp3Poty (registration.ft.com)	Feb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	negativity about the linux based leader	Feb 20 04:25
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628227	Feb 20 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/568499434264403969		Feb 20 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: the more we learn about #NSA/#GCHQ exploits, the more I'm amazed at how little they've been able to do with them in fighting crime		Feb 20 04:36
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 04:36
schestowitz	Big Banks launder drug cartel money, and profit hugely off the police-state (the only three actors the Prohibition War benefits)	Feb 20 04:36
schestowitz	Almost all public national 'debt' and bailouts are money handed to private financial interests who then use it to consolidate the economy, and buy public infrastructure from the 'bankrupt' governments (How to be a Fascist 101)	Feb 20 04:36
schestowitz	Almost all foreign aid goes to warlords (gives power to the very people who destroy resilient communities)	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	the CIA funds, arms and trains Al Qaeda/ISIS/ISIL/whatever-Hill-&-Knowlton-tells-them-to-call-their-asset-this-week-to-confuse-the-public, and yet we're supposed to give up our rights, drain our treasure, and go to war - 'cause terrorists	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	IMF and World Bank development plans literally retro-velope economies and societies	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	"Free Trade" agreements are multi-thousand page documents negotiated in secret	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	Dept of War renamed Dept of 'Defense' right as military might projected offensively across the globe exponentially	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	'Federal' Reserve isn't federal	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	Gitmo was supposed to be closed	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	'Mission Accomplished'	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	Attacked by Saudi extremists, go to war with only secular country in the region who had nothing to do with anything	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	'Cost Plus'	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	"Those WMD's have got to be around here somewhere? Over here? Nope! Under here? Nope!"	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	"Patriot" Act	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	Parallel Construction	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	Operation Northwoods	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	False-Flags	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	Organizations like ALEC draft all legislation (will the Gentleman from Coke please cede the podium to the Senator from BP), and legislators don't even read the bills they pass (and legalize insider-trading for themselves)	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	Whistle-blowers, journalists and other political/economic enemies are imprisoned, character-assassinated, or murdered and tortured, while all nations point at each other and scream "Abuse!"	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	The military bulldozes date/fig/pomogranite farms and protects poppy fields/distribution networks in 'peace-keeping' missions	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	The Establishment (including GE's MSNBC/	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	Maybe we can stop accepting unaccountable power Elites' justifications at face value...	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	"	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	"Ick....cynicism...I'm going to go back to anticipating my Librem 15 and buying my hobby farm..."	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	"Happy thoughts, positive thoughts, productive thoughts A_A"	Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz	Librem won't do enough to correct things, but it's a start	Feb 20 04:38
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5620844	Feb 20 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/JamesRisen/status/567911078623068161		Feb 20 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JamesRisen: I plan to spend the rest of my life fighting to undo damage done to press freedom in the United States by Barack Obama and Eric Holder.		Feb 20 04:39
schestowitz	"Yeah, sorry everyone. I swear I don't smoke ganja (lucky for us all)"	Feb 20 04:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628334	Feb 20 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lenovo’s bundled adware also comes with hole http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptops back door? #lenovo #thinkpad #china		Feb 20 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thenextweb.com \| Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]		Feb 20 04:39
schestowitz	"Only available for Windows?"	Feb 20 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org \| Lenovo Is Breaking HTTPS Security on its Recent Laptops \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jrdpa ]		Feb 20 04:39
schestowitz	Another Windows exclusive	Feb 20 04:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com \| Handset makers test Android’s reign - FT.com		Feb 20 04:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines All Ubuntu Phones Are Now Sold Out, Says BQ on	Feb 20 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	Twitter http://t.co/QhaX2tF3Ow	Feb 20 04:46
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 04:46
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/peterelvidge/status/568709604495863808	Feb 20 04:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@peterelvidge: @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/kfigt5KAD9… http://t.co/w7oWhlDcp3		Feb 20 04:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> pixelartistpete.wordpress.com \| @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/HjFtv5r5MQ #debian #futurestudio #gnu #linux #art \| Epic Pixel Art By Peter Elvidge		Feb 20 04:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS	Feb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	Designed for Creative People	Feb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jLrOo6zdMU (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 05:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold	Feb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LiW5Wr139f (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9FIx2BopMD (www.theinquirer.net)	Feb 20 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold \| ZDNet		Feb 20 05:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net \| 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 models sold as total sales hit five million- The Inquirer		Feb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On Linux	Feb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/um3b8jykFS (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 20 05:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines HP to Ship Commodity Switches With Cumulus	Feb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines	Linux OS http://t.co/FmMA3m8tGM	Feb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.datacenterknowledge.com)	Feb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cKtc4XS0EC (bits.blogs.nytimes.com)	Feb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pSCbW09Pvo	Feb 20 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datacenterknowledge.com \| HP to Ship Commodity Switches With Cumulus Linux OS \| Data Center Knowledge		Feb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com)	Feb 20 05:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com \| Log In - The New York Times		Feb 20 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com \| HP Announces Linux Powered Open Networking Switches		Feb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First	Feb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	ARMv8 Board http://t.co/lUgtrC9jYu	Feb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com) http://t.co/wnfApGOgt1	Feb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	(mrpogson.com)	Feb 20 05:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First ARMv8 Board \| Linux.com		Feb 20 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Hmmmm… 96Boards Could Be To ARM What ATX Was To x86 \| Robert Pogson		Feb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In For	Feb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	Snappy Ubuntu http://t.co/jU60Nbszvv	Feb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.forbes.com) http://t.co/JonJFiRSvD	Feb 20 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com \| Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In For Snappy Ubuntu - Forbes		Feb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.canadianreviewer.com)	Feb 20 05:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.canadianreviewer.com \| Sales of Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition smartphone begin in EU - Canadian Reviewer - Reviews, News and Opinion with a Canadian Perspective		Feb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many	Feb 20 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	Things Needed Fixing http://t.co/UEtM7ZN10A	Feb 20 05:18
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many Things Needed Fixing - Softpedia		Feb 20 05:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Qt 5.5 is expected to ship in about two	Feb 20 05:24
TweetTuxMachines	months" http://t.co/TsJKjqcwn4	Feb 20 05:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 20 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Qt 5.5 Features: Many Exciting Improvements - Phoronix		Feb 20 05:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chainsaw Warrior Lords of the Night Board Game	Feb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines	Lands On Steam for Linux	Feb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/28J1SNoCc5 (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 05:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Chainsaw Warrior: Lords of the Night Board Game Lands on Steam for Linux - Softpedia		Feb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Wear 5.0.2 Update Starts Rolling Out	Feb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines	With Some Google Fit Fixes In Tow	Feb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mG8qf2QAci (www.androidpolice.com)	Feb 20 05:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Thriving http://t.co/AOyo5SIcvL	Feb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines	(ostatic.com) http://t.co/uNLyPEYuO0	Feb 20 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.businesswire.com)	Feb 20 05:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| RightScale's State of the Cloud Survey: Hybrid Clouds, Docker Thriving		Feb 20 05:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com \| Docker Project Partners with Oceanic Society for Open-source-a-thon to Support Whale and Marine Wildlife Conservation \| Business Wire		Feb 20 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LinHES R8.3 Released http://t.co/1xHzMvJKWU	Feb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linhes.org)	Feb 20 05:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linhes.org \| LinHES - LinHES R8.3 Released		Feb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel	Feb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines	Releases http://t.co/R1xdfIyPRL (www.eweek.com)	Feb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/N6vjX8Rqmz (ostatic.com)	Feb 20 05:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel Releases		Feb 20 05:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| The Linux Foundation Reports on the State of Kernel Development		Feb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS released	Feb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AcrcBlXlGV (lists.ubuntu.com)	Feb 20 05:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.ubuntu.com \| Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS released		Feb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines RAID 5/6 Continues Being Improved For Btrfs	Feb 20 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	With Linux 3.20 http://t.co/uNkovwA9CQ	Feb 20 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 20 06:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| RAID 5/6 Continues Being Improved For Btrfs With Linux 3.20 - Phoronix		Feb 20 06:16
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Chainsaw Warrior Lords of the Night Board...'		Feb 20 06:16
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too...'		Feb 20 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released with	Feb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	Updated Apps and Bugfixes	Feb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GnyXE2aCn0 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released with Updated Apps and Bugfixes \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature Freeze	Feb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lAOdTUNiQl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 07:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qt3D 2.0 The FrameGraph http://t.co/6xSy0Z1WBv	Feb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 07:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3	Feb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pqtjRdQMeU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 07:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is	Feb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8	Feb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0c4EO7Zb6I (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 07:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Final has arrived!"	Feb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fywnPElGsl	Feb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.clearfoundation.com)	Feb 20 07:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xubuntu Lubuntu & Ubuntu GNOME have new	Feb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	releases http://t.co/ES6OqbMCsl	Feb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/SnUti9J9pY	Feb 20 07:42
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TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu GNOME 14.04.2 LTS Lands with New Kernel and Lots of Fixes - Gallery - Softpedia		Feb 20 07:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Lubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Brings Better Hardware Support Thanks to Linux Kernel 3.16 - Softpedia		Feb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature Freeze	Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/j0apYaLemu (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrkrd	Feb 20 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature Freeze - Softpedia		Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3	Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WDLOEuTTg8 (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrkre	Feb 20 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3 - Softpedia		Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is	Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8	Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/b6JCIYBLsU (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 20 07:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8 - Softpedia		Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases	Feb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SNtX3rKZYJ (www.zdnet.com)	Feb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrkvb	Feb 20 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases \| ZDNet		Feb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases	Feb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/1WtIfXFXF1 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 08:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Now Available!	Feb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ig5djR8SMi (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrkve	Feb 20 08:09
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Sosumi	https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/	Feb 20 10:07
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__martin__	news broke regards whole secure access products and solutions trust-breach	Feb 20 11:23
__martin__	see the correlation between mainstream media's ukraine & tanks / isis propaganda push and flow of Ed Joseph Snow docs?	Feb 20 11:25
__martin__	it ain't just a gas reserves and vast land waiting for gmo in UA anymore..	Feb 20 11:25
__martin__	also	Feb 20 11:26
__martin__	dafuq is this	Feb 20 11:26
__martin__	http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/02/19/1830232/microsofts-first-azure-hosted-service-is-powered-by-linux	Feb 20 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org \| Microsoft's First Azure Hosted Service Is Powered By Linux - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jrm21 ]		Feb 20 11:26
__martin__	schestowitz: how many sim cards you got with wife? any older than 2010?	Feb 20 11:27
__martin__	how does one reason out exfiltration and newspeak to his female partner without coming out as a person with mental disorder?	Feb 20 11:29
__martin__	tried myself hard and failed xD	Feb 20 11:29
__martin__	btw btw, the utter worst shiet of the week, CNN headline calls those "eathing healthy and demanding non-gmo veggies" with this "Orthorexia nervosa"	Feb 20 11:31
__martin__	eating*	Feb 20 11:31
__martin__	</end_rant>	Feb 20 11:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 ethical open source hacking tools for	Feb 20 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	business http://t.co/0oekne51Re	Feb 20 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 12:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 20/2/2015: Bloomberg Joins Linux	Feb 20 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	Foundation, ClearOS Community 6.6.0	Feb 20 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aQbjl78r5J (techrights.org)	Feb 20 12:30
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cubexyz	which OEM would you say is the most Linux friendly?	Feb 20 13:01
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cubexyz	I guess Acer isn't too bad	Feb 20 13:03
cubexyz	not that I really think Acer laptops are good, they're not	Feb 20 13:03
cubexyz	but they do support Linux	Feb 20 13:03
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'm using an Acer laptop :)	Feb 20 13:03
XRevan86	and so is my mother	Feb 20 13:03
cubexyz	any problems with overheating and shutdowns?	Feb 20 13:04
XRevan86	cubexyz: nope o_0	Feb 20 13:04
cubexyz	which models?	Feb 20 13:04
XRevan86	TE11HC and TE69KB	Feb 20 13:04
cubexyz	I have an acer aspire 5534 which overheats	Feb 20 13:05
XRevan86	Notable that on TE69KB stock Linpus goes to kernel panic instantly after booting.	Feb 20 13:05
cubexyz	have you ever tried panasonic toughbooks? They work very well	Feb 20 13:05
XRevan86	cubexyz: No, never.	Feb 20 13:06
XRevan86	cubexyz: I'm not an expert in laptops, these two are being chosen because they were the best in price category "truly cheap"	Feb 20 13:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/sDx97vXgTg	Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrmq3	Feb 20 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3	Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PNE20iAJJd (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrmq4	Feb 20 13:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines INTERVIEW: TIM O’REILLY http://t.co/w9ytCaWD7h	Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrmq5	Feb 20 13:09
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cubexyz	XRevan86, I thought about finding a laptop with easily upgradeable video card	Feb 20 13:10
cubexyz	e.g. a laptop that supports MXM	Feb 20 13:10
cubexyz	I'm not completely happy with any laptop, but toughbook CF-48 comes close	Feb 20 13:10
XRevan86	And I prefer integrated graphics :)	Feb 20 13:11
cubexyz	I have to consider repairability	Feb 20 13:12
XRevan86	cubexyz: I doubt that's easy to check.	Feb 20 13:12
cubexyz	you're right, it's not	Feb 20 13:12
XRevan86	and impossible to have on thin laptops	Feb 20 13:12
cubexyz	it's one of the things I'm always researching	Feb 20 13:13
cubexyz	I see lots of info on "least repairable laptops"	Feb 20 13:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: Let me guess: it's full of macbooks	Feb 20 13:14
cubexyz	yes	Feb 20 13:15
XRevan86	https://startpage.com/do/search?query=least+repairable+laptops who could imagine…	Feb 20 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-startpage.com \| least repairable laptops - Startpage Web Search [ http://ur1.ca/jrmrl ]		Feb 20 13:16
cubexyz	one time I asked for a laptop with all replaceable parts, and the guy just laughed at me	Feb 20 13:16
cubexyz	buy two :)	Feb 20 13:16
XRevan86	cubexyz: One can dream…	Feb 20 13:16
MinceR	one can replace the laptop with another laptop :>	Feb 20 13:17
XRevan86	Laptops look like a complete freedom on a tablet/smartphone background.	Feb 20 13:18
cubexyz	I fix laptops	Feb 20 13:18
cubexyz	so far I can say Dell Dimension laptops suck :)	Feb 20 13:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: Maybe it's awesome only in fifth dimention.	Feb 20 13:18
cubexyz	haha	Feb 20 13:19
XRevan86	you just can't see that, you, three-dimentional peasant	Feb 20 13:19
cubexyz	I ran out of letters	Feb 20 13:19
MinceR	i can say everything from dHell sucks	Feb 20 13:19
XRevan86	Maybe fifth dimention is hell, that would explain that.	Feb 20 13:19
cubexyz	I'm not sure things are improving on the repair front	Feb 20 13:20
cubexyz	probably it's getting worse	Feb 20 13:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Creating Forms for Easy LibreOffice Database	Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	Entry on Linux http://t.co/fRMCLO2IVI	Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 14:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Creating Forms for Easy LibreOffice Database Entry on Linux \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/eCXI5VRZzQ	Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrn2l	Feb 20 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Enterprise Software Giants Live In An Open	Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	Source World http://t.co/ZrhFjQp01S	Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrn2n	Feb 20 14:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js	Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrn2o	Feb 20 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support,	Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes 71 Bugs http://t.co/SLKzdgDwiU	Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrn2p	Feb 20 14:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU	Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	Driver Code http://t.co/vGR0g0DiCD	Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrn2q	Feb 20 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU Driver Code \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 14:01
*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21'		Feb 20 14:01
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*TweetTuxMachines @techdotpro retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21'		Feb 20 14:06
*TweetTuxMachines @markperera favourited 'Enterprise Software Giants Live In An Open Source...'		Feb 20 14:06
MinceR	http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/zzo1.png	Feb 20 14:07
msb	MinceR: Good one!	Feb 20 14:41
__martin__	+1 shared further	Feb 20 15:05
__martin__	on BBS	Feb 20 15:05
schestowitz	+1	Feb 20 15:16
*TweetTuxMachines @danieloleary favourited 'Enterprise Software Giants Live In An Open Source...'		Feb 20 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Demand for Linux developers on the rise	Feb 20 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/O7PcyfzSuM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnkn	Feb 20 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Demand for Linux developers on the rise \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 15:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app	Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	prevalence http://t.co/qKveZLOE2P	Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnko	Feb 20 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app prevalence \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GDB 7.9 released http://t.co/YaOg5bMSXG	Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnkp	Feb 20 15:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims for	Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	mobile developers http://t.co/ljVLbAmAkX	Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnks	Feb 20 15:19
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MinceR	https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235	Feb 20 15:27
MinceR	KDE is dying.	Feb 20 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org \| KDE Will Depend on 'logind' and 'timedated' in 6 Months - SoylentNews [ http://ur1.ca/jrnmq ]		Feb 20 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the	Feb 20 15:32
TweetTuxMachines	space station http://t.co/6SJZxFSpMB	Feb 20 15:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 15:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnnq	Feb 20 15:32
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*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims for...'		Feb 20 15:32
__martin__	MinceR: atm @ fedora 21 / just curious, selinux+systemd, can you link me any in-depth audit, or I shall trust devs from Brno city?	Feb 20 15:35
__martin__	schestowitz: so roy, how many sim cards in total within household? gave mine in dec; introduced girl to textsecure, redphone, tox.im	Feb 20 15:36
__martin__	(pgp/gpg ain't noob-proof yet; nor router flashing)	Feb 20 15:37
__martin__	gave up*	Feb 20 15:37
MinceR	__martin__: huh?	Feb 20 15:38
MinceR	i don't trust fedora anymore	Feb 20 15:38
__martin__	well my old HW needs radeon blobs so	Feb 20 15:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5631763	Feb 20 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So much #superfish blame thrown at #lenovo without pointing out #gnu #linux or #freesw as a way out of this kind of abuse		Feb 20 15:47
schestowitz	"I'm sitting this one out. I just get tired of telling people the same shit over and over, and hearing the same old excuses in response."	Feb 20 15:47
schestowitz	__martin__: at least proved you right	Feb 20 15:47
cubexyz	dozerland can't get much worse I think :)	Feb 20 15:48
schestowitz	MinceR: http://m.forums.theregister.co.uk/post/reply/2375127	Feb 20 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.forums.theregister.co.uk \| Reply to post • Re: If systemd is so bad... • The Register Forums [ http://ur1.ca/jrns9 ]		Feb 20 15:50
cubexyz	when everyone always talks about excel when they really mean spreadsheet, or assume it's ipconfig rather than ifconfig (despite the fact that the Unix world invented ifconfig in 1982)	Feb 20 15:51
cubexyz	not to mention the death-grip the OEMs seem to be in	Feb 20 15:51
cubexyz	blame the schools	Feb 20 15:53
cubexyz	that's where it all starts	Feb 20 15:53
cubexyz	everything was mostly copied from DEC	Feb 20 15:55
cubexyz	RT11, copied by Kildall to make CP/M	Feb 20 15:55
schestowitz	> http://yle.fi/uutiset/coding_soon_to_be_part_of_finnish_schoolchildrens_core_curriculum/7818567	Feb 20 15:56
schestowitz	>	Feb 20 15:56
schestowitz	> :\	Feb 20 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi \| Coding soon to be part of Finnish schoolchildren’s core curriculum \| Yle Uutiset \| yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/jrntj ]		Feb 20 15:56
schestowitz	Is Microsoft involved or just the minister connected to microsoft?	Feb 20 15:56
TweetTuxMachines	@linmagazine #Sympleתחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותי	Feb 20 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	לסביבה #אובונטו $89 בלבד http://t.co/Xnv53UcIFw	Feb 20 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	(linmagazine.co.il) דרך @tuxmachines #eWaste	Feb 20 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linmagazine.co.il \| Symple: תחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותי לסביבה עם אובונטו: $89 בלבד \| לינמגזין		Feb 20 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gmThvBgirr	Feb 20 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnuk	Feb 20 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linmagazine: #Sympleתחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותי לסביבה #אובונטו $89 בלבד http://t.co/Xnv53UcIFw דרך @tuxmachines #eWaste http://t.co/gmThvBgirr		Feb 20 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default	Feb 20 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet	Feb 20 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ljLrDrzGGE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnul	Feb 20 16:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the	Feb 20 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	coolest Android phone ever?	Feb 20 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4xZSijPMgQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrnun	Feb 20 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the coolest Android phone ever? \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 16:01
cubexyz	http://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/08/10/0047256/finlands-upper-secondary-school-exams-going-all-linux	Feb 20 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.slashdot.org \| Finland's Upper Secondary School Exams Going All-Linux - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jrnwq ]		Feb 20 16:08
MinceR	http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-20-at-1.43.43-PM-1024x559.jpg	Feb 20 16:13
MinceR	(also a slogan for systemd)	Feb 20 16:13
cubexyz	there are alternatives to systemd :)	Feb 20 16:13
MinceR	and the cult is working on making everything dependent on it	Feb 20 16:14
MinceR	their goal being no choice for you	Feb 20 16:14
cubexyz	well they can try but it won't work	Feb 20 16:14
cubexyz	icewm doesn't use systemd, I checked	Feb 20 16:14
MinceR	yet	Feb 20 16:15
__martin__	schestowitz: thanks, I had a minor conversation with fauno, the philosopher of parabola.nu project; it's in people's neural pathways, pre-learned contexts, proprietary soft is an invisible layer	Feb 20 16:16
__martin__	yes	Feb 20 16:16
__martin__	commodity logic, he said	Feb 20 16:16
__martin__	pathethic, head of mine faculty giving out free vi$ta8 tablets to excellent understand the most indoctrinated students	Feb 20 16:18
__martin__	or faplets for the most of them	Feb 20 16:18
__martin__	at least the college's library heard of openaccess	Feb 20 16:19
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__martin__	infopanels @ campus powered by XP [sic] ... fourteen y'ol OS	Feb 20 16:20
cubexyz	I can solve the OS problem :)	Feb 20 16:21
__martin__	better to say, not old but vulnerable	Feb 20 16:21
__martin__	xD	Feb 20 16:21
cubexyz	http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-828-operating-system-engineering-fall-2012/	Feb 20 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ocw.mit.edu \| Operating System Engineering \| Electrical Engineering and Computer Science \| MIT OpenCourseWare [ http://ur1.ca/jro05 ]		Feb 20 16:21
__martin__	any of you guys already alienated close frieds, family relatives with refusing proprietary stuff?	Feb 20 16:22
cubexyz	of course not	Feb 20 16:22
MinceR	no	Feb 20 16:22
cubexyz	well maybe one friend who is a total microsoft fanboy but we're still friends	Feb 20 16:23
cubexyz	we just don't talk about the whole microsoft thing	Feb 20 16:23
cubexyz	anyways, MIT uses xv6 a lot	Feb 20 16:24
cubexyz	MIT folks are often ahead of the curve anyways	Feb 20 16:26
cubexyz	MIT, Berkeley... they know the score	Feb 20 16:26
__martin__	last summer i was in one flat not further than thirty kilometres from ukraine borders which had a settopbox from deutche telekom's subsidiary company and it was rolling on the magnetic HDD and fans on any occasion of verbal commuication within that living room	Feb 20 16:27
__martin__	pretty scary	Feb 20 16:27
__martin__	complete black box, as wells as their routers for optical line.. never heard of anyone flashing openwrt on that piece of hw	Feb 20 16:27
__martin__	well*	Feb 20 16:28
cubexyz	hexedit the firmware and have a look	Feb 20 16:28
__martin__	later on in early autumn i demonstrated OTR functionallity of pidgin some three kilometres +- from a military airport where u.s. jets are welcome all the time	Feb 20 16:33
__martin__	last friday in a club i asked a policeman out of duty regards their treatment of chronic filesharers like me	Feb 20 16:33
__martin__	at least he was honest, said he just wanna reach his pension and not give a damn	Feb 20 16:34
__martin__	xD	Feb 20 16:34
cubexyz	not too many people understand all their firmware	Feb 20 16:35
MinceR	maybe only the amish do :>	Feb 20 16:36
__martin__	;D	Feb 20 16:36
cubexyz	most routers were VXworks or linux	Feb 20 16:40
__martin__	tbh, with RMS way of life for three months, am lucky no one called ambulance for me and detached me into rehab	Feb 20 16:41
__martin__	parents = ??? // thou i printed 'em out snowden doc and short report in their native lang	Feb 20 16:42
__martin__	regards sim cards	Feb 20 16:42
cubexyz	it's hard work reverse engineering firmware with no source code	Feb 20 16:46
__martin__	so far worst dilemma are CCTVs in a village where father ran for a mayor; he has fb account, uses cracked win7 box and did not took me seriously when i gifted him for his b-day with FSF's e-mail self-defense guide	Feb 20 16:48
__martin__	with all this i just wanted to demostrate how far into one's life can technology go	Feb 20 16:48
__martin__	not sure for how much longer i could handle this hermit stance from others	Feb 20 16:49
__martin__	thou i hope mr. joseph snow will push some more stuff sooner rather than later	Feb 20 16:49
__martin__	</end_rant>	Feb 20 16:49
__martin__	such an oxymoron; in order to get free thoughts am going from time to time into a barbed-wire fenced reservation for deer and stuff, because disrespecting this private property brings me more freedom than walking the streets under cctv managed in the end within father's reach	Feb 20 17:21
__martin__	gosh	Feb 20 17:21
MinceR	which country is that?	Feb 20 17:23
__martin__	the best thing is ofc anyways messing into overcrowded human areas where you forget the orwell's animal farm story with time passing by	Feb 20 17:24
__martin__	MinceR: post-soviet slovakia, near european surveillance hub.. austria (vienn)	Feb 20 17:24
MinceR	ic	Feb 20 17:26
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scientes	i'm so tired of software	Feb 20 17:56
MinceR	welcome to the club	Feb 20 17:56
__martin__	+1	Feb 20 17:56
scientes	echo "linux" \| cpp -E -	Feb 20 17:58
scientes	^^what a load of crap	Feb 20 17:58
scientes	this is 2015 and I still can't name my variable "linux" or "unix"	Feb 20 17:59
MinceR	there's a macro by that name that has a value of 1, apparently	Feb 20 18:02
scientes	its part of cpp	Feb 20 18:02
scientes	its even documented	Feb 20 18:03
MinceR	probably so that c programs will know they're being built on/for linux and unix	Feb 20 18:03
scientes	there is __linux__ for that	Feb 20 18:03
MinceR	indeed	Feb 20 18:03
MinceR	i wonder why there are these undecorated versions	Feb 20 18:03
scientes	the cause me confusing bugs	Feb 20 18:04
MinceR	what's the purpose of a variable called that, though?	Feb 20 18:05
cubexyz	I don't think you can name an executable 'test' either	Feb 20 18:06
MinceR	i'm pretty sure you can, as there already is such an executable :>	Feb 20 18:06
MinceR	doesn't make much sense to name another the same way, though	Feb 20 18:06
cubexyz	I think ld would complain	Feb 20 18:07
cubexyz	oh wait a sec	Feb 20 18:07
cubexyz	I might have a directory test	Feb 20 18:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux	Feb 20 18:07
TweetTuxMachines	3.20/4.0? http://t.co/ciGzg28xwv	Feb 20 18:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 18:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrol5	Feb 20 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux 3.20/4.0? \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 18:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video Overview	Feb 20 18:07
TweetTuxMachines	and Screenshot Tours http://t.co/HrxxLzrPx3	Feb 20 18:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 18:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrol6	Feb 20 18:07
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cubexyz	so it wouldn't try to overwrite the directory :)	Feb 20 18:08
cubexyz	I remember one guy overwrote his wp.com file because his filename was wp.com	Feb 20 18:09
cubexyz	every system has these types of things	Feb 20 18:09
cubexyz	in the olden days there was stropping	Feb 20 18:13
cubexyz	btw, if you were to use int linux; in unix v5 cc it would work :)	Feb 20 18:20
cubexyz	MinceR, you might find this interesting:	Feb 20 18:32
cubexyz	http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/	Feb 20 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkcl.net \| Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]		Feb 20 18:32
cubexyz	that's Jessie of course	Feb 20 18:33
cubexyz	wheezy shouldn't be as difficult	Feb 20 18:33
MinceR	i've looked it	Feb 20 18:36
MinceR	his related post on debian-user (?) was more interesting, though :)	Feb 20 18:36
cubexyz	you have a link for that?	Feb 20 18:37
MinceR	https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html	Feb 20 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org \| Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jr2le ]		Feb 20 18:42
MinceR	thread starter: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00641.html	Feb 20 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org \| how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jros7 ]		Feb 20 18:43
cubexyz	ok, Luke Leighton is a bit pessimistic here... but since he used Debian as his main distro I can see his concern	Feb 20 18:47
cubexyz	there is no way are all the linux distros using systemd	Feb 20 18:47
cubexyz	s/are/that/	Feb 20 18:47
MinceR	it might happen	Feb 20 18:47
MinceR	considering what kde is doing, for example	Feb 20 18:48
cubexyz	no way... I'll make my own distro first :)	Feb 20 18:48
MinceR	sure, but what applications will be in it?	Feb 20 18:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why you should consider cloud-hosted Linux	Feb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	desktops http://t.co/Nn8Zdw8LTA	Feb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrot6	Feb 20 18:49
cubexyz	well anything I want... firefox, fbreader, etc	Feb 20 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Why you should consider cloud-hosted Linux desktops \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 18:49
MinceR	they might even get the bsd-s	Feb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The open data platform, like United Linux	Feb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	before it, will fail http://t.co/sqzvnd4Hm8	Feb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrot9	Feb 20 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The open data platform, like United Linux before it, will fail \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux clockpocalypse in 2038 is looming and	Feb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	there's no 'serious plan'	Feb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Md8Ex4GjSV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrotb	Feb 20 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux clockpocalypse in 2038 is looming and there's no 'serious plan' \| Tux Machines		Feb 20 18:49
MinceR	who knows, maybe red hat will kill gnu and linux before 2038	Feb 20 18:49
MinceR	maybe that's the plan	Feb 20 18:49
cubexyz	also there is no way in hell AIX or HP-UX will use systemd	Feb 20 18:49
MinceR	poisoning the well	Feb 20 18:49
cubexyz	there will be forks probably	Feb 20 18:50
MinceR	but who will write/port applications to them?	Feb 20 18:50
cubexyz	as long as you have the toolchain... anyone can do that	Feb 20 18:51
cubexyz	I still write PDP-11 code	Feb 20 18:51
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cubexyz	also the Motif guys :)	Feb 20 18:52
MinceR	sure, but can you keep patching secholes in an entire distro?	Feb 20 18:52
cubexyz	the old farts will not write systemd code	Feb 20 18:52
scientes	its systemd/linux now	Feb 20 18:52
scientes	and android/linux	Feb 20 18:52
cubexyz	MinceR, I do that already remember?	Feb 20 18:52
cubexyz	FC1	Feb 20 18:52
scientes	i write systemd code	Feb 20 18:52
scientes	it mostly sucks, but i do	Feb 20 18:53
cubexyz	ok, well of course some people do	Feb 20 18:53
MinceR	of course it sucks, it's fedora	Feb 20 18:53
cubexyz	especially Red Hat people	Feb 20 18:53
scientes	ummm, systemd is used by every gnu/linux distro now	Feb 20 18:53
scientes	its only android thats differn't	Feb 20 18:53
cubexyz	ummm no	Feb 20 18:53
MinceR	not every	Feb 20 18:53
scientes	yes	Feb 20 18:53
cubexyz	slackware does not	Feb 20 18:53
scientes	every one	Feb 20 18:53
MinceR	slackware and its derivatives don't use it	Feb 20 18:53
scientes	who cares	Feb 20 18:53
MinceR	gentoo supports it but uses openrc by default	Feb 20 18:53
scientes	again who cares	Feb 20 18:54
scientes	its all systemd now	Feb 20 18:54
MinceR	of course this won't help if all the application developers force systemd	Feb 20 18:54
scientes	now that ubuntu switched	Feb 20 18:54
MinceR	who cares about ubuntu	Feb 20 18:54
scientes	and gnome will be next	Feb 20 18:54
scientes	you can't use gnome without systemd	Feb 20 18:54
MinceR	the gnome people did the whole thing	Feb 20 18:54
cubexyz	right	Feb 20 18:54
scientes	for good reason	Feb 20 18:54
cubexyz	that's why there is ten billion other window managers	Feb 20 18:54
scientes	systemd is awesome	Feb 20 18:54
MinceR	i don't miss gnome or kde, but they'll eventually start taking useful stuff away too	Feb 20 18:55
*scientes loves gnome 2		Feb 20 18:55
scientes	*gnome 3	Feb 20 18:55
scientes	i don't like gnome 2	Feb 20 18:55
MinceR	wayland is another fuckup	Feb 20 18:55
scientes	no it isn't	Feb 20 18:55
MinceR	it's windows for gnu/linux	Feb 20 18:55
MinceR	all that's missing is moving the windowing system into the kernel	Feb 20 18:56
MinceR	only it's even more retarded than winblows	Feb 20 18:56
MinceR	winblows at least had pointer capture/warp functionality	Feb 20 18:56
MinceR	wayland omits that from the protocol	Feb 20 18:56
MinceR	and the wayland people are in love with client side decorations	Feb 20 18:56
cubexyz	tons of distros do not use systemd	Feb 20 18:57
cubexyz	there's dozens	Feb 20 18:57
MinceR	it worked out great in windows	Feb 20 18:57
scientes	but there is less than a dozen distros that matter	Feb 20 18:57
scientes	MinceR, wayland fixes the huge security problems of X	Feb 20 18:57
MinceR	yes, and it also fixes the functionality of X	Feb 20 18:58
scientes	except noone uses that fu nctionality anymore	Feb 20 18:58
MinceR	except plenty of people do	Feb 20 18:58
scientes	if you are talking about 1980s drawing primitives	Feb 20 18:58
MinceR	i'm talking about pointer capture/warp and proper window managers	Feb 20 18:58
cubexyz	http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributions	Feb 20 18:59
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MinceR	x2x, x2vnc and synergy relies on the former two	Feb 20 18:59
MinceR	and so do fps games	Feb 20 18:59
scientes	systemd won guys, get over it	Feb 20 18:59
MinceR	we'll see	Feb 20 18:59
scientes	wayland is next	Feb 20 18:59
scientes	linus torvalds already said systemd won	Feb 20 18:59
cubexyz	you're clueless scientes	Feb 20 18:59
MinceR	we'll also see if red hat and crApple also manage to kill *bsd	Feb 20 18:59
cubexyz	you think IBM will use systemd? :)	Feb 20 18:59
scientes	yes	Feb 20 19:00
MinceR	i think there won't be an IBM	Feb 20 19:00
cubexyz	I think not	Feb 20 19:00
scientes	intel is heavily developing systemd	Feb 20 19:00
scientes	IBM will always be around	Feb 20 19:00
scientes	they run so much of the economy	Feb 20 19:00
scientes	like Wal-Mart	Feb 20 19:00
MinceR	they've already sold most of the company	Feb 20 19:00
scientes	and euro-flight control	Feb 20 19:01
cubexyz	it's just userland stuff, anyone can do whatever they want	Feb 20 19:03
MinceR	also, kde does some horrible hack with input to work around wayland's deficiency regarding pointer warp	Feb 20 19:03
cubexyz	there's slack/390 for that matter	Feb 20 19:03
MinceR	but apparently horrible hacks are cool now	Feb 20 19:04
scientes	MinceR, are you aware of how X11 support compositing window managers?	Feb 20 19:05
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scientes	its a GIANT hack	Feb 20 19:05
MinceR	i am aware of it	Feb 20 19:05
MinceR	and i'm not using a compositing window manager	Feb 20 19:05
MinceR	and it's still not as much of a hack as what i mentioned above	Feb 20 19:05
MinceR	but apparently the wayland way of fixing things is breaking them even more, and then not fixing anything	Feb 20 19:06
cubexyz	sorry, but the Unix traditionalists won't switch to systemd	Feb 20 19:08
cubexyz	you'll just see a mass exodus to alternative systems	Feb 20 19:10
scientes	except systemd is more unix than what came before it	Feb 20 19:11
scientes	it supports multiseat for example	Feb 20 19:11
cubexyz	you're just trolling	Feb 20 19:11
scientes	and now we finially have a proper IPC with kdbus	Feb 20 19:12
MinceR	multiseat is a lame excuse to force systemd on us, and it doesn't even work	Feb 20 19:12
scientes	whatever, are you contributing?	Feb 20 19:12
scientes	then shut up	Feb 20 19:12
MinceR	no, you shut up	Feb 20 19:12
cubexyz	fuck off loser :)	Feb 20 19:12
scientes	those that do the work make the decisions	Feb 20 19:12
__martin__	lmao	Feb 20 19:12
scientes	thats just the way it works	Feb 20 19:12
cubexyz	you don't even know me	Feb 20 19:12
scientes	true	Feb 20 19:12
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cubexyz	I just released a new Unix v5 a week ago	Feb 20 19:13
scientes	sry for being an ass	Feb 20 19:13
cubexyz	you're lucky I'm not Sokolov, he would have kicked you	Feb 20 19:15
cubexyz	but whatever, everyone has an opinion	Feb 20 19:15
scientes	i was programming but i got frustrated	Feb 20 19:16
scientes	with the #define linux thing	Feb 20 19:17
cubexyz	oh that	Feb 20 19:17
MinceR	have you tried #undef linux? :>	Feb 20 19:17
cubexyz	guys, I feel I should point out that there's lots of architectures out there	Feb 20 19:17
cubexyz	we are not all x86	Feb 20 19:18
scientes	I was developing systemd on ARM for a while	Feb 20 19:18
MinceR	indeed, i'm typing this on armv6 :>	Feb 20 19:18
scientes	armv7	Feb 20 19:18
scientes	and i fixed the gold linker on armv5	Feb 20 19:18
cubexyz	if you like systemd fine, but don't shove it out everyone's throat	Feb 20 19:18
cubexyz	some of us use Vax and PDP-11	Feb 20 19:18
MinceR	what i don't get is why don't the systemd/wayland crowd just shut up and use windows already	Feb 20 19:18
MinceR	it's "designed" around the principles they apparently love so much	Feb 20 19:19
scientes	MinceR, what is wrong with kdbus?	Feb 20 19:19
MinceR	it doesn't belong in the kernel	Feb 20 19:19
MinceR	it worked as fine as it ever will in userspace	Feb 20 19:19
scientes	every other os has an in-kernel IPC	Feb 20 19:19
MinceR	so does gnu/linux	Feb 20 19:19
scientes	not true	Feb 20 19:19
MinceR	several	Feb 20 19:19
scientes	now it is zero-copy	Feb 20 19:19
MinceR	unix domain sockets, mutexes, semaphores	Feb 20 19:20
MinceR	shared memory	Feb 20 19:20
scientes	but shared memory is insecure	Feb 20 19:20
scientes	the new memfd stuff makes shared memory secure	Feb 20 19:20
MinceR	good thing the crap poettering codes up is secure	Feb 20 19:20
MinceR	oh wait	Feb 20 19:20
MinceR	systemd is full of holes	Feb 20 19:20
scientes	I was amazed that we havn't had an unaligned memory access bug yet	Feb 20 19:21
MinceR	with these people at the wheel, we will	Feb 20 19:21
MinceR	just like now we have null pointer dereferences in pid1	Feb 20 19:21
scientes	thats true	Feb 20 19:21
scientes	pid 1 does a hell of alot	Feb 20 19:22
scientes	its over a megabyte	Feb 20 19:22
MinceR	and while they're trying to force dbus into the kernel, they'll take VT support out of the kernel	Feb 20 19:22
scientes	yep	Feb 20 19:22
scientes	but that wont be in pid 1	Feb 20 19:22
MinceR	which will probably make it more difficult to recover from issues	Feb 20 19:22
scientes	but the reasons for it are sound	Feb 20 19:22
MinceR	apparently the main principle is "let's make it shittier"	Feb 20 19:22
scientes	a pid 1 crash doesn't crash the system though	Feb 20 19:23
MinceR	i doubt they'll do it in a way that will be worth it	Feb 20 19:23
scientes	so you will see be able to debug after pid 1 crashes	Feb 20 19:23
MinceR	i'd rather not have pid1 crash, and fix/restart the service that did	Feb 20 19:23
MinceR	kdbus is already said to depend on systemd	Feb 20 19:24
scientes	i've never had it crash when i wasn't hacking it	Feb 20 19:24
MinceR	so poettering finally gets what he wants: linux depending on systemd	Feb 20 19:24
scientes	kdbus does depend on systemd	Feb 20 19:24
MinceR	so much for not breaking userspace	Feb 20 19:24
scientes	AFAIK	Feb 20 19:24
cubexyz	you're forgetting that anyone can go back and just use an older version	Feb 20 19:24
MinceR	yes, and deal with a growing list of known vulnerabilities	Feb 20 19:25
MinceR	while these retards work on introducing more of them in the newest versions	Feb 20 19:25
cubexyz	some Nuclear Power stations use PDP-11's	Feb 20 19:25
cubexyz	because they know it inside and out	Feb 20 19:25
MinceR	and probably because they don't want a meltdown because poettering had a bad day	Feb 20 19:25
cubexyz	there is no X	Feb 20 19:26
cubexyz	it'	Feb 20 19:26
MinceR	why, is there X for PDP-11? :>	Feb 20 19:26
cubexyz	for Vax yes	Feb 20 19:26
cubexyz	not PDP-11	Feb 20 19:26
cubexyz	at least I've never seen it	Feb 20 19:26
__martin__	gnome os aka linuxd/minwin concerns are legitimate, thou useds live in sandboxed chrome fog these days soon to be cyanogen/minwin	Feb 20 19:27
cubexyz	X version 6 was microvax... there was never a PDP-11 X	Feb 20 19:27
cubexyz	IBM RT also	Feb 20 19:28
cubexyz	that was all started by MIT, DEC and IBM	Feb 20 19:29
cubexyz	if you know your history	Feb 20 19:29
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cubexyz	now some really smart folks ran Plan 9 but it's a research OS	Feb 20 19:30
MinceR	maybe i will too	Feb 20 19:30
MinceR	if they manage to kill unix	Feb 20 19:30
cubexyz	it was better in a lot of ways, but it doesn't support new hardware too well	Feb 20 19:30
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cubexyz	if you want traditional then run quasijarus OR run one of the BSDs like FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD	Feb 20 19:32
MinceR	afaict freebsd is running a high risk of turning into freeosx	Feb 20 19:32
MinceR	with launchd and other crApple crap	Feb 20 19:32
scientes	there was a suggestion that freebsd adopt systemd	Feb 20 19:32
cubexyz	there is no way Theo will use systemd :)	Feb 20 19:32
scientes	by one of the core developers	Feb 20 19:33
MinceR	and if all the applications start depending on systemd, even netbsd and openbsd will likely start using systemd shims or forks	Feb 20 19:33
cubexyz	ok, well that's why there are forks, so everyone gets what they want	Feb 20 19:33
cubexyz	I happen to like quasijarus but I run Linux too	Feb 20 19:33
MinceR	no, it might well be that only the people who want gratis windows will get what they want	Feb 20 19:34
MinceR	and we get to start struggling with driver support all over again, from zero	Feb 20 19:34
cubexyz	well MinceR what do you suggest?	Feb 20 19:34
MinceR	i have no idea	Feb 20 19:34
cubexyz	I can run quasijarus and fix bugs so I'm happy	Feb 20 19:34
MinceR	i never knew what to do with stupid humans (which are the vast majority)	Feb 20 19:34
cubexyz	I don't have to use every new fangled thing that people come up with	Feb 20 19:35
cubexyz	of course there are disagreements	Feb 20 19:35
MinceR	does quasijarus run on anything other than vax?	Feb 20 19:35
cubexyz	I don't go around telling people what to use, use whatever you want	Feb 20 19:35
cubexyz	it was ported to HP9000 I think	Feb 20 19:36
MinceR	i don't have any of those	Feb 20 19:37
cubexyz	Unisys 7000	Feb 20 19:37
MinceR	just pc-s, arm machines and a zx spectrum	Feb 20 19:37
cubexyz	probably other ones I don't remember what happened after 4.3BSD	Feb 20 19:37
cubexyz	microvax is cheap to get	Feb 20 19:38
cubexyz	the average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too big	Feb 20 19:38
cubexyz	the only way you will learn that stuff is if you go back into the past and learn the older versions	Feb 20 19:39
scientes	<cubexyz> the average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too big	Feb 20 19:39
scientes	exactly	Feb 20 19:39
cubexyz	there is FPGA if you want PDP-11 for modern hardware	Feb 20 19:39
cubexyz	some very interesting projects	Feb 20 19:40
scientes	thats why it is being replaced by opengl+wayland	Feb 20 19:40
scientes	and since opengl fucked up on opengl3 perhaps DX11 too	Feb 20 19:40
scientes	I just remember that i read the announcement of systemd and went "holy shit that makes sense!"	Feb 20 19:41
scientes	after having experienced the stupidity that is upstart	Feb 20 19:41
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MinceR	replacing x might be a good idea, just not with a retarded replacement	Feb 20 19:52
MinceR	as for DX11, that will never work	Feb 20 19:52
MinceR	not only is it only supported on winblows, it's also controlled by m$	Feb 20 19:52
cubexyz	just make a Xtiny or Xlight then	Feb 20 19:52
cubexyz	it's been done before	Feb 20 19:52
MinceR	trying to implement a spec m$ controls is _not_ a good idea	Feb 20 19:52
cubexyz	Xvesa I think was small	Feb 20 19:53
MinceR	and yes, upstart was stupid too	Feb 20 19:53
MinceR	with its signal abuse	Feb 20 19:53
MinceR	but there are plenty of sane init systems around	Feb 20 19:53
scientes	MinceR, they only did it cause the company that controls opengl bailed on their promise of a modern api	Feb 20 19:53
scientes	Kronos	Feb 20 19:53
scientes	like systemd	Feb 20 19:53
MinceR	systemd is supposed to be a "modern api"?	Feb 20 19:53
scientes	i was talking about DX11	Feb 20 19:54
MinceR	no, systemd is not sane	Feb 20 19:54
MinceR	its scope is sprawling, it's overly complex and it puts a lot of shoddy code in pid1	Feb 20 19:54
scientes	what is so horrible about it?	Feb 20 19:54
MinceR	and it's designed to be impossible to replace	Feb 20 19:54
MinceR	oh, and to be non-portable	Feb 20 19:54
scientes	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL#Longs_Peak_and_OpenGL_3.0_controversy	Feb 20 19:54
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MinceR	if sysvinit was designed like systemd, it would be impossible to replace sysvinit with systemd	Feb 20 19:55
scientes	but software portability isn't the big thing, hardware portability is	Feb 20 19:55
MinceR	the average programmer can't know all of systemd	Feb 20 19:55
scientes	and systemd should work on any 32-bit processor with a MMU	Feb 20 19:56
MinceR	maybe it isn't to you	Feb 20 19:56
MinceR	but of course, systemd fans don't recognize any use cases outside their own	Feb 20 19:56
cubexyz	some folks still use RT-11 for that matter	Feb 20 19:56
MinceR	they're stuck in their little bubble of windows and macos running on pc	Feb 20 19:56
cubexyz	they don't even need a multi-user OS	Feb 20 19:56
cubexyz	RTOS for stuff that has to be responsive	Feb 20 19:58
scientes	here is something crazy: I was contemplating a multi-threaded pid 1	Feb 20 19:59
MinceR	here's something less crazy: run the minimum amount of code needed in pid1	Feb 20 20:05
cubexyz	that would be Unix v7 or before	Feb 20 20:06
cubexyz	completely easy to understand too	Feb 20 20:06
MinceR	even this could suffice:	Feb 20 20:06
MinceR	int main(void) { if (fork()) while (1) wait(NULL); else execl("/etc/rc", "rc", NULL); }	Feb 20 20:07
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cubexyz	I said it before... write MincerOS :)	Feb 20 20:07
MinceR	maybe that will be my new hobby	Feb 20 20:07
MinceR	(that oneliner wasn't written by me, btw)	Feb 20 20:07
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/original-unix-v5-init.c.txt	Feb 20 20:07
cubexyz	you still need a way to go back and forth from single to multi-user mode	Feb 20 20:09
cubexyz	and update wtmp of course	Feb 20 20:09
MinceR	the service manager can handle the runlevel-like stuff	Feb 20 20:10
MinceR	which would be started by /etc/rc	Feb 20 20:10
cubexyz	well, maybe you would do things differently from Thompson	Feb 20 20:10
MinceR	i'm not sure how wtmp works	Feb 20 20:11
cubexyz	it's just a binary file used by ac	Feb 20 20:11
cubexyz	maybe new Linux doesn't have that nowdays	Feb 20 20:11
cubexyz	keeps track of user's connection time	Feb 20 20:11
MinceR	looks like wtmp doesn't need to be handled in pid1 either	Feb 20 20:11
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cubexyz	it also reads /etc/getty to know how many init processes to spawn	Feb 20 20:14
MinceR	which could be done by the service manager	Feb 20 20:14
MinceR	something like runit, perhaps	Feb 20 20:15
MinceR	gn	Feb 20 20:15
*scientes thinks using a DAG for system services makes things less painful		Feb 20 20:15
scientes	and that anything else is insane	Feb 20 20:15
cubexyz	or rather reads /etc/ttys	Feb 20 20:15
MinceR	even a DAG doesn't have to be implemented in pid1	Feb 20 20:15
MinceR	and also doesn't need a DNS proxy built in	Feb 20 20:15
MinceR	or a uefi bootloader	Feb 20 20:16
scientes	gummiboot is not part of systemd	Feb 20 20:16
MinceR	it is now!	Feb 20 20:16
scientes	its just developed by Kay Sievers	Feb 20 20:16
scientes	and the patch i am working on right now does bring in it's BootLoaderSpec	Feb 20 20:16
scientes	for kexec	Feb 20 20:16
MinceR	here's a little article to read for alleged software developers who believe systemd is well designed >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_%28computer_science%29	Feb 20 20:17
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cubexyz	it's not hard to improve upon the status quo	Feb 20 20:17
MinceR	of course, any proper software engineering course includes discussion of cohesion	Feb 20 20:17
MinceR	but apparently nobody at red hat finished such a course	Feb 20 20:18
cubexyz	reduced module complexity, that describes early Unix	Feb 20 20:19
cubexyz	that's why the MIT OS design course uses a modernized Unix v6	Feb 20 20:19
MinceR	not shoving unrelated stuff into modules, i think that describes unix too	Feb 20 20:19
MinceR	rather, not shoving unrelated stuff into the same module, i think that describes unix too	Feb 20 20:19
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cubexyz	actually Kernighan and Pike criticized 4.2BSD and System V	Feb 20 20:22
cubexyz	in their opinion, 4.2BSD was already a departure from true Unix	Feb 20 20:22
MinceR	not as much as Lendows is	Feb 20 20:23
scientes	lol	Feb 20 20:23
scientes	the true unix: "return 0"	Feb 20 20:23
scientes	oh "return 0;"	Feb 20 20:23
MinceR	that would be /bin/true	Feb 20 20:23
scientes	no then you violate SCO's copyright claims on unix	Feb 20 20:23
cubexyz	I talked to Mcllroy about it... but what are you going to do?	Feb 20 20:24
MinceR	i thought SCO's alleged claims have been dismissed ages ago	Feb 20 20:24
scientes	you have to make it a c program	Feb 20 20:24
MinceR	even m$ seemed to give up on handing another bucket of money to SCO to warm up the FUD	Feb 20 20:24
scientes	systemd doesn't really use coreutils	Feb 20 20:24
MinceR	of course	Feb 20 20:24
cubexyz	Linux is (quoting) "in a disheartening state of obesity"	Feb 20 20:24
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MinceR	systemd doesn't really use anything, except the kernel, but they're working on getting rid of the kernel too	Feb 20 20:25
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scientes	"cloud"	Feb 20 20:25
scientes	what the fuck does "cloud" mean anyways?	Feb 20 20:25
scientes	what a load of marketing gibberish	Feb 20 20:25
MinceR	it means "just hand your data and code over to us and everything will be fine, trust us"	Feb 20 20:25
MinceR	mac asay should have waited with the United Linux thing, it may yet happen in the form of Lendows	Feb 20 20:26
MinceR	it won't be worth using of course, but it will be	Feb 20 20:26
MinceR	it will exist, for a while	Feb 20 20:27
cubexyz	there's no united anything though	Feb 20 20:27
scientes	systemd is unifying linux	Feb 20 20:27
MinceR	united in the quest for the useless shiny	Feb 20 20:27
MinceR	united in idiocracy	Feb 20 20:27
scientes	it brings the linux development model to userspace	Feb 20 20:27
scientes	now we just need subsystemd maintainers	Feb 20 20:28
MinceR	well, at least we'll know if the kernel is this crap too	Feb 20 20:28
MinceR	also, a while ago torvalds said that linux didn't break userspace	Feb 20 20:29
MinceR	systemd never followed that	Feb 20 20:29
MinceR	though they did say they won't break udev for non-systemd cases	Feb 20 20:29
MinceR	(a lie, of course)	Feb 20 20:29
scientes	http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InterfaceStabilityPromise/	Feb 20 20:29
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MinceR	not the same thing	Feb 20 20:30
scientes	lol libwrap is gone	Feb 20 20:30
scientes	and that mentions libwra	Feb 20 20:30
MinceR	promises made by the cancerd cult aren't worth the bits they're written on	Feb 20 20:31
scientes	pid 1 is 1.4 MiB	Feb 20 20:31
scientes	its huge	Feb 20 20:31
MinceR	1.4 MiB of null pointer dereferences and remote holes?	Feb 20 20:32
scientes	sz == 8 \|\| (value < (1ULL << (sz*8)))	Feb 20 20:34
scientes	why does it have that string in the binary?	Feb 20 20:34
MinceR	i have no idea, maybe it's an assert or something	Feb 20 20:34
scientes	yeah but that would be compiled	Feb 20 20:34
scientes	perhaps thats the way assert gets compiled	Feb 20 20:34
MinceR	sure, but it prints an error message with the expression	Feb 20 20:35
MinceR	iirc	Feb 20 20:35
scientes	ahh yes	Feb 20 20:35
scientes	lol http://paste.debian.net/153527/	Feb 20 20:36
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DaemonFC	http://wn.ktvu.com/story/28132951/vandalism-could-delay-reopening-portion-of-dolores-park	Feb 20 20:42
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DaemonFC	"I'm infuriated, I'm angry," San Francisco Recreation & Park Department General Manager Phil Ginsburg told KTVU Tuesday. "Over the weekend, some idiots broke into the construction site and did about $100,000 worth of damage."	Feb 20 20:42
DaemonFC	Ginsburg said intruders stole a construction cart, hotwired it and did donuts on a newly sodded field, damaging a new irrigation system.	Feb 20 20:42
DaemonFC	Vandals also tagged the cement roof of the park's new storage facility and even lit a campfire in a corner of that facility to roast s'mores, leaving behind marshmallows, chocolate and graham crackers.	Feb 20 20:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Good explanation of how microsoft attacks linux	Feb 20 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	right now http://t.co/msioGT0uu2	Feb 20 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.forbes.com)	Feb 20 20:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A look at gnu linux distro LinHES 8.3	Feb 20 20:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines YouTube is launching an Android app for	Feb 20 21:12
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msb	I'm not totally up on this stuff, but it seems to me the main problem with eliminating systemd is the apps that use it. An init system, udev, etc., can be done as it is today. So how do apps use systemd? And can they be satisfied with a fairly simple systemd-shim (which will not run in PID1 of course). Is there an explanation somewhere of exactly what the current systemd-shim does?	Feb 21 01:24
cubexyz	one doesn't need to eliminate any apps	Feb 21 01:26
cubexyz	I'll just use wheezy, or slackware, or one of the BSDs	Feb 21 01:26
cubexyz	or something derived from wheezy, or something derived from slackware	Feb 21 01:26
msb	I don't want to eliminate any apps. I want the up-to-date apps, that use systemd, to be able to run without it.	Feb 21 01:27
cubexyz	the display manager maybe	Feb 21 01:32
msb	Wiki says that slackware has no "public code repository". What does that mean? And it all depends on one guy.	Feb 21 01:32
msb	I want to stay with Linux because it is a great human endevor and should not be allowed to be sabotaged by RH/US/NWO.	Feb 21 01:33
cubexyz	it's like I tried to explain earlier	Feb 21 01:34
msb	Sorry, maybe I missed it or didn't understand.	Feb 21 01:34
cubexyz	from my point of view I'm just going to use an earlier pre-systemd distro or I'll use slackware or OpenBSD	Feb 21 01:35
cubexyz	that's what I'm doing now... and in addition to that I research historical Unix	Feb 21 01:35
msb	Right, but I'm asking help with my point of view.	Feb 21 01:35
msb	What is the display manager, please?	Feb 21 01:35
cubexyz	kdm or gdm	Feb 21 01:36
msb	That's now in systemd too?	Feb 21 01:36
cubexyz	ummm, it might be now, I'm not sure about that	Feb 21 01:37
cubexyz	there's xdm if you want something different	Feb 21 01:37
msb	But apps run after k/gdm chooses a DE and starts X. How do apps depend on dm?	Feb 21 01:37
cubexyz	strictly speaking the applications don't need a dm	Feb 21 01:38
cubexyz	the display manager just does stuff like move the focus, and move windows around	Feb 21 01:38
cubexyz	sometimes I don't even run a dm at all	Feb 21 01:39
cubexyz	I'm running kdm on vector	Feb 21 01:39
cubexyz	but that's kdm from kde 3.5.10	Feb 21 01:40
cubexyz	so no systemd	Feb 21 01:40
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msb	I thought it was the window manager that moves windows around, etc.	Feb 21 01:41
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msb	I want to find a non-systemd that will work for most people -- for humanity.	Feb 21 01:43
cubexyz	ok, this is dependent on a few things... and it depends on which way things are set up	Feb 21 01:43
cubexyz	ok, really with KDE 3.5.10 there are two things: kdm and kwin	Feb 21 01:44
msb	So it should be Linux, and should be up to date, and well maintained.	Feb 21 01:44
cubexyz	but sometimes there's only one thing: icewm	Feb 21 01:44
cubexyz	so on openbsd I login via text login	Feb 21 01:45
cubexyz	there's no gui login	Feb 21 01:45
msb	So icewm comes up and asks you to select a DE (or console mode)?	Feb 21 01:45
cubexyz	no	Feb 21 01:45
cubexyz	I'm starting completely in text mode	Feb 21 01:45
cubexyz	I start icewm via a script	Feb 21 01:45
cubexyz	that starts X and icewm	Feb 21 01:46
cubexyz	so there's no gui login :)	Feb 21 01:46
cubexyz	I'm already logged in via text login	Feb 21 01:46
msb	OK, but if one wants to select among multiple DEs, one needs K/G/XDM, right? Or a script to do it. I forgot about the login, but the DMs do that too. In any case, I don't think apps would access the	Feb 21 01:47
cubexyz	ok, now on other distros it could be set up differently	Feb 21 01:47
msb	DM.	Feb 21 01:47
cubexyz	well I could just write multiple scripts for each wm	Feb 21 01:48
cubexyz	if you give me a second I can check what AntiX does	Feb 21 01:49
cubexyz	it's in another room	Feb 21 01:49
msb	OK. Back to the apps. I read that goddamn systemd will necessitate changing apps to keep up with it (churning apps). So how and why do apps access/need systemd?	Feb 21 01:49
msb	Obviously you don't need a heater in winter. 8^)	Feb 21 01:50
msb	I wish that scientes POS was here to explain.	Feb 21 01:51
cubexyz	I think antix uses slim for the gui login	Feb 21 01:56
cubexyz	the application shouldn't care if you run sysvinit or whatever	Feb 21 01:57
cubexyz	the init controls the apps	Feb 21 01:58
msb	So how does systemd "churn" apps?	Feb 21 01:58
cubexyz	it's like dependencies like library versions, same as always	Feb 21 02:00
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cubexyz	if systemd gets new libraries, they have to work with the existing applications	Feb 21 02:00
msb	If devuan has an init system, udev, etc, that doesn't use systemd, can it then use the normal debian repos?	Feb 21 02:00
msb	for apps?	Feb 21 02:01
cubexyz	that's speculative	Feb 21 02:01
cubexyz	we don't even have devuan yet	Feb 21 02:02
cubexyz	who knows :)	Feb 21 02:02
msb	This is a major tragedy, from the social viewpoint.	Feb 21 02:03
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msb	I _am_ a conspiracy theorist, and I know one when I see one.	Feb 21 02:03
cubexyz	ok, obviously I don't agree with you-know-who	Feb 21 02:04
msb	who?	Feb 21 02:04
cubexyz	the pro-systemd folks	Feb 21 02:04
msb	I'm just hoping it's a tragedy with a technical fix.	Feb 21 02:05
cubexyz	really this has happened before with 4.3BSD and System V	Feb 21 02:06
cubexyz	it's a similar schism	Feb 21 02:06
msb	I doubt that was done by the ruling psychopaths to control the world's population, like this is.	Feb 21 02:07
cubexyz	BSD init vs SysV init	Feb 21 02:07
cubexyz	it's not just me saying thumbs down to systemd	Feb 21 02:08
msb	I know. I have lots of articles and websites about that.	Feb 21 02:08
cubexyz	print this out:	Feb 21 02:09
cubexyz	http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installation	Feb 21 02:09
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msb	The problem is that the major distros have swallowed it, from stupidity, bribes, or threats.	Feb 21 02:09
cubexyz	there's lots of classic distros which I mentioned earlier, that will never use systemd	Feb 21 02:09
msb	I saw that, but it has very few major distros.	Feb 21 02:10
cubexyz	quasijarus, Research Unix, Plan 9, the BSDs, etc	Feb 21 02:10
msb	But classic distros are out of date regarding security holes, new media formats, etc.	Feb 21 02:10
cubexyz	but I can say the same thing about the new distros :)	Feb 21 02:10
msb	How so?	Feb 21 02:11
cubexyz	they don't support my hardware, and they have _new_ bugs	Feb 21 02:11
msb	Very few people have your old hardware.	Feb 21 02:11
msb	And new bugs will get fixed.	Feb 21 02:11
cubexyz	anyways, I'm not really that worried. That guy was just trying to bother people	Feb 21 02:12
cubexyz	I don't even think he seriously believes the stuff he was saying	Feb 21 02:12
msb	I don't care about him.	Feb 21 02:14
cubexyz	folks can run the old stuff forever if they want	Feb 21 02:14
msb	The human race needs Linux, and systemd will destroy it.	Feb 21 02:14
cubexyz	using FPGAs or emulators, or by fixing old hardware	Feb 21 02:14
cubexyz	I spent over 10 years updating FC1	Feb 21 02:15
msb	The old stuff doesn't handle new media formats, Android, and other stuff to be invented.	Feb 21 02:15
msb	The public doesn't use FPGAs and emulators are slow.	Feb 21 02:15
msb	I am looking for a solution for everybody, not just you.	Feb 21 02:15
cubexyz	most people don't even understand the OS that's on their computer	Feb 21 02:17
cubexyz	FPGAs are good... you could make your own CPU :)	Feb 21 02:18
msb	Most people don[t even know they are using an OS.	Feb 21 02:18
msb	I'm fine with an AMD 8-core -- much faster.	Feb 21 02:18
cubexyz	personally I think Linux is too bloated and complicated	Feb 21 02:19
cubexyz	AntiX did a decent job pruning it down	Feb 21 02:19
cubexyz	OpenBSD is relatively lean	Feb 21 02:20
msb	Doesn;t matter. Any PC today has GBs of RAM.	Feb 21 02:21
cubexyz	I don't use bluetooth, or sunrpc or nfs etc	Feb 21 02:21
cubexyz	it sure does matter if you want to try to understand it	Feb 21 02:22
cubexyz	look at MIT's courseware for OS design	Feb 21 02:22
cubexyz	but everybody's different	Feb 21 02:23
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cubexyz	that guy just parrots the same crap over and over	Feb 21 02:25
cubexyz	"who cares"	Feb 21 02:25
cubexyz	I care	Feb 21 02:25
cubexyz	emulated PDP-11 is quite fast	Feb 21 02:29
cubexyz	way faster than the fastest PDP-11 ever made	Feb 21 02:29
cubexyz	init is just a way to get things started, run some gettys, turn things off and on	Feb 21 02:30
msb	How fast compared to an AMD FX-8350?	Feb 21 02:31
cubexyz	it's just a hosted OS... so it's speed depends on how fast the host is	Feb 21 02:39
cubexyz	in my case a P3 is fast enough to run any PDP-11 OS quite well	Feb 21 02:39
cubexyz	if I put it on a FX-8350 it would be a lot faster I'm sure	Feb 21 02:40
msb	I'm talking about speed for playing x265s, transcoding, and video editing.	Feb 21 02:40
msb	not running the OS.	Feb 21 02:41
msb	Again, I am looking for a solution for everyone, not just techies.	Feb 21 02:42
cubexyz	I don't think everyone does those things either	Feb 21 02:42
msb	Everyone now views x265s.	Feb 21 02:42
msb	And lots of people edit videos.	Feb 21 02:42
msb	You seem to be recommending that people get an FPGA and run PDP11 on it, just so they can run an old Unix that will not handle modern media formats, etc. Does not make sense to me.	Feb 21 02:44
cubexyz	I only mentioned FPGAs to point out that when old hardware dies, people can still run on the old Unix on the FPGA	Feb 21 02:46
cubexyz	if they want to do that	Feb 21 02:46
cubexyz	it's perfectly valid for businesses that need to replace legacy hardware	Feb 21 02:47
cubexyz	joe blow isn't going to listen to me anyways	Feb 21 02:48
cubexyz	I'm sure if I wanted to I buy some appropriate computer hardware to edit videos	Feb 21 02:49
cubexyz	I wouldn't use a PDP-11 for that obviously	Feb 21 02:49
msb	I'm talking about average people. They want a fast general purpose desktop or laptop for doing everything.	Feb 21 02:50
msb	Up to date, easy to use, not microshit.	Feb 21 02:51
cubexyz	microshit?	Feb 21 02:51
msb	Microfuckshitpiss	Feb 21 02:51
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5635129	Feb 21 03:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ibm insisted that it hadn't helped the #nsa with back doors despite #tpm work and recent revelations about hard-drive firmware bugs (IBM)		Feb 21 03:35
schestowitz	"Most of their Hard drive storage operation was sold off to Hitachi many years ago. And c"onsider Samsung, Seagate and the rest are now Asia centric.	Feb 21 03:36
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5630086	Feb 21 03:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hacker Claims Feds Hit Him With 44 Felonies When He Refused to Be an #FBI Spy http://www.wired.com/2015/02/hacker-claims-feds-hit-44-felonies-refused-fbi-spy/ recruitment by extortion/blackmail		Feb 21 03:36
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schestowitz	"Stuff like this is why I think they suicided Ilya Zhitomirskiy."	Feb 21 03:36
schestowitz	I read somewhere that it was suicide but could not confirm	Feb 21 03:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5635066	Feb 21 03:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Good explanation of how #microsoft attacks #linux right now http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/microsoft-fights-google-android-cyanogen/		Feb 21 03:37
schestowitz	"There's nothing potent about Microsoft's "cloud". Bing, Skype, Outlook are miserable failures like everything else Microsoft touches. Idiot news sources like Fobes said the same kinds of silly things when Microsoft subjugated Yahoo, but it went no where. Microsoft's corruption of Cyanogenmod is one or two orders of magnitude less important than that."	Feb 21 03:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How To Create QR Codes In Ubuntu/Linux Mint	Feb 21 03:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Released – Detailed Review	Feb 21 04:14
TweetTuxMachines	and Installation Instructions	Feb 21 04:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6cj35p3lt9 (www.tecmint.com)	Feb 21 04:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrrxt	Feb 21 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com \| Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Released - Detailed Review and Installation Instructions		Feb 21 04:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, and	Feb 21 04:14
TweetTuxMachines	Arduino I/O http://t.co/6YEFWIZpuB	Feb 21 04:14
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Feb 21 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, and Arduino I/O · LinuxGizmos.com		Feb 21 04:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrrxu	Feb 21 04:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Official Ubuntu Phone Porting Guide Published	Feb 21 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/WTduPfM0lS (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs1m	Feb 21 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Official Ubuntu Phone Porting Guide Published - Softpedia		Feb 21 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Shell Gets a Visual Refresh Based on the	Feb 21 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	Redesigned GTK+ Theme In GNOME 3.16	Feb 21 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/RIumZld4g1 (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs1n	Feb 21 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Shell Gets a Visual Refresh Based on the Redesigned GTK+ Theme In GNOME 3.16 - Softpedia		Feb 21 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why All Linux (Security) Bugs Aren't Shallow	Feb 21 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/T3x7ylXAXw	Feb 21 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.esecurityplanet.com)	Feb 21 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs1o	Feb 21 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esecurityplanet.com \| Why All Linux (Security) Bugs Aren't Shallow - eSecurity Planet		Feb 21 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the	Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	space station http://t.co/SNtX3rKZYJ	Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Feb 21 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the space station \| ZDNet		Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs2a	Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linus Torvalds: Write Linux Kernel Code, 'Get	Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	Hired Really Quickly' http://t.co/uRhv7jqkrq	Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.lifehacker.com.au)	Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs2b	Feb 21 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.com.au \| Linus Torvalds: Write Linux Kernel Code, 'Get Hired Really Quickly' \| Lifehacker Australia		Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	@rmsthebot @tuxmachines Giving the Linus Torvalds Award to	Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	the Free Software Foundation is a bit like	Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	giving the Han Solo Award to the Rebel	Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	Alliance.	Feb 21 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs2c	Feb 21 04:39
*TweetTuxMachines @DanbecBeck followed @tuxmachines		Feb 21 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video Overview	Feb 21 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	and Screenshot Tours http://t.co/6ZSf2BG9pF	Feb 21 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxscoop.com)	Feb 21 04:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com \| Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video Overview and Screenshot Tours - Linux Scoop		Feb 21 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs4t	Feb 21 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU	Feb 21 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	Driver Code http://t.co/NBkqZiTYwk	Feb 21 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 04:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU Driver Code - Phoronix		Feb 21 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrs4u	Feb 21 04:52
XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozero huh	Feb 21 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Ozero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Feb 21 05:42
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/569094254401757185	Feb 21 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz @koenrh @marchijinkNRC #Gemalto CEO saw 'the writing on the wall' or he was a prophet ;-) http://t.co/QPrSx73A7X #NSA #GCHQ		Feb 21 06:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xfce 4.12 Should Be Released in One Week	Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ngGA1zUZ5j (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KFelyRGvii (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 06:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Xfce 4.12 Should Be Released in One Week, at the End of February - Softpedia		Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Gv5Rynbo34 (fossforce.com)	Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsor	Feb 21 06:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Xfce 4.12 Is Still Planned For Release In One Week - Phoronix		Feb 21 06:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Xfce 4.12, Raspberry Pi's Whole Number & More… \| FOSS Force		Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New features in Fedora 22 Workstation.	Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/r9eLWrhCwB (paul.frields.org)	Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	#redhat	Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsos	Feb 21 06:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.frields.org \| New features in Fedora 22 Workstation. - The Grand Fallacy		Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "The prize money for the award will be given to	Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	the TAILS Free Software project." http:/...	Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bFI9dTIOWS (joindiaspora.com)	Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsot	Feb 21 06:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com \| "The prize money ...		Feb 21 06:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/569099523898761216	Feb 21 06:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz @micahflee "sends copies of SIM crypto keys to carriers…often⇒email/FTP. What'd possibly go wrong…"with #Gemalto's stupidity?		Feb 21 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines T-Mobile Galaxy S5 lands Lollipop to lead this	Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	week's Android device update roundup	Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zdtscLty93 (www.greenbot.com)	Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsst	Feb 21 07:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com \| T-Mobile Galaxy S5 lands Lollipop to lead this week's Android device update roundup \| Greenbot		Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.3.6 Released as TDF Celebrates	Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	Three Years http://t.co/Px418EX8XB	Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrssu	Feb 21 07:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.3.6 Released as TDF Celebrates Three Years \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Editorial: Linux Gaming Will Be Fine Even	Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	Without Steam Machines Succeeding	Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/70OIH8cWZR (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrssv	Feb 21 07:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Editorial: Linux Gaming Will Be Fine Even Without Steam Machines Succeeding \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 21 07:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wayland/Weston 1.7.0 Make It For Ubuntu 15.04	Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ToxJbSnkBC (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsxo	Feb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Wayland/Weston 1.7.0 Make It For Ubuntu 15.04 - Phoronix		Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app	Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	prevalence http://t.co/2PqaWZsjj8	Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	(searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com) "Windows	Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	applications are a hurdle"	Feb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com \| Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app prevalence		Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsxp	Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux	Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	3.20/4.0? http://t.co/MUIpJfxKfd	Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com) http://t.co/EtfTrQMF2J	Feb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux 3.20/4.0? - Phoronix		Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Code Merged This Week For Linux 3.20/4.0 Is Just As Exciting As Last Week - Phoronix		Feb 21 07:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrsxq	Feb 21 07:32
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569114703294803970	Feb 21 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz #LibreOffice user here. Great news! Any word on #Kompozer? It's still the best OS web design tool I know.		Feb 21 07:44
schestowitz	I have not heard about it for years	Feb 21 07:44
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569116109099679744	Feb 21 07:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Development has stalled since 2007. I wonder if the issue is funding?		Feb 21 07:49
schestowitz	probably a contributing factor	Feb 21 07:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569117059642212352	Feb 21 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Have they considered crowdfunding? I would certainly help to publicise it by sharing on my social media accounts and blog.		Feb 21 07:55
schestowitz	Worth working towards if you can get in touch with the devs (probably moved on in their lives)	Feb 21 07:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118572515106817	Feb 21 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz That's the problem; web design ends up being restricted to pretentious Adobe Creative Suite users who don't know what "code"...		Feb 21 08:00
schestowitz	Why not use CMS with integrated WYSIWYG?	Feb 21 08:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118773397090305	Feb 21 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz ...means. If it's not W3C compliant you lose me at "Hello."		Feb 21 08:00
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569119752246988800	Feb 21 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz I do. And it's better and easier. However, if you don't understand how it actually works you can't deliver the results you want		Feb 21 08:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569120051590250497	Feb 21 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz which is why I always advocate learning to build from scratch. You can take shortcuts later when you understand what you cut.		Feb 21 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default	Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet	Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/98MbviM4E3 (www.webupd8.org)	Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrt8j	Feb 21 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org \| Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog		Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10	Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GmB2UB3JpQ (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrt8k	Feb 21 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 - Softpedia		Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on Steam	Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	for Linux http://t.co/BlXHvVM7f7	Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on Steam for Linux - Softpedia		Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrt8l	Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the	Feb 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	coolest Android phone ever?	Feb 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xrgrvcmkz0 (www.networkworld.com)	Feb 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrta8	Feb 21 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the coolest Android phone ever? \| Network World		Feb 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra Secure	Feb 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	Messaging App	Feb 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/y1tftc6U0t (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrta9	Feb 21 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra Secure Messaging App - Softpedia		Feb 21 08:35
MinceR	geekings	Feb 21 08:39
MinceR	the zero-copy scientes mentioned was yet another poor excuse: "Lennart said that it works better to simply copy anything that is less than about 512KB" http://lwn.net/Articles/580194/	Feb 21 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| The unveiling of kdbus [LWN.net]		Feb 21 09:03
XRevan86	schestowitz: rss2sn	Feb 21 09:11
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*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra...'		Feb 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now Has	Feb 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines	Better ODT Format Support	Feb 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/BxcNGHunvs (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtka	Feb 21 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now Has Better ODT Format Support - Softpedia		Feb 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On Linux	Feb 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/d7oMel58D3 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 21 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtkb	Feb 21 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 21 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Many new LTS releases of gnu linux	Feb 21 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/xUM41MpuIG (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OJMjOSWO6i (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Edubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Has Been Officially Released - Softpedia		Feb 21 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/S5ihB7PPrH (www.kubuntu.org)	Feb 21 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Berq4Y3nND (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Kubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released, Users Can No Longer Upgrade to Plasma 5 - Softpedia		Feb 21 09:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtkf	Feb 21 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kubuntu.org \| Kubuntu 14.04 LTS Update Out \| Kubuntu		Feb 21 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Arrives with Linux Kernel 3.16 - Softpedia		Feb 21 09:25
schestowitz	wow. sites of gun nuts http://www.ammoland.com/2015/02/america-in-distress-have-we-reached-the-tipping-point/#axzz3SOHBFUcr	Feb 21 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ammoland.com \| America In Distress - Have We Reached The Tipping Point? [ http://ur1.ca/jrtmm ]		Feb 21 09:34
MinceR	more like republican wingnuts	Feb 21 09:36
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Many new LTS releases of gnu linux http://t.co/xUM41MpuIG...'		Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: Update	Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	Coming http://t.co/acLhZSon3t	Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.latinospost.com) http://t.co/FJNFeRE7wL	Feb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latinospost.com \| Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: Update Coming to Motorola Devices After Nexus & HTC? : Tech : Latinos Post		Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.ibtimes.co.uk)	Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtn6	Feb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk \| Android 5.1 Lollipop release date confirmed for HTC One M7 GPE, Nexus devices to follow soon		Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.37 Adds UTF-7 Encoding, Interface	Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	Change Notifications http://t.co/NAXVi9Tuof	Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/3Gl10yGKiS (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Wine 1.7.37 Adds UTF-7 Encoding, Interface Change Notifications - Phoronix		Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4ratRZn0Sy (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrtn7	Feb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support, Fixes 71 Bugs - Softpedia		Feb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Wine Development Release 1.7.37 Is Now Available \| GamingOnLinux		Feb 21 09:36
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636970	Feb 21 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/locally-integrated-menus-lim-set-as.html #ubuntu #linux		Feb 21 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.webupd8.org \| Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog [ http://ur1.ca/jrtnr ]		Feb 21 09:38
schestowitz	"Good!"	Feb 21 09:38
schestowitz	"As long as global can be configured :)"	Feb 21 09:38
schestowitz	"I don't find this feature particularly convenient. Probably the idea of some Apple fanboy inside Canonical. :P But yes it is good to have options."	Feb 21 09:38
schestowitz	One can install KDE on top as Ubuntu, as I often do..	Feb 21 09:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636961	Feb 21 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lendows or Lennux can be avoided http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installation		Feb 21 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> without-systemd.org \| Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jmy5s ]		Feb 21 09:39
schestowitz	"What distro are you using?"	Feb 21 09:39
schestowitz	Debian and Kubuntu	Feb 21 09:39
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636755	Feb 21 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ClipperChip/status/568912218412216321		Feb 21 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ClipperChip: .@ggreenwald EU: “We demand answers!” US: “The answers you seek are in another castle.” – EU: "Oh, okay." http://t.co/Ut3PMO4fb1		Feb 21 09:39
schestowitz	"These are not the answers you're looking for"	Feb 21 09:39
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msb	schestowitz: I think the non-systemd solution has to be: 1. a major distro, or one that uses the repos of one, so it has lots of support 2. not source code or run by one person (slackware funtoo gentoo) 3. is up to date and continually modernized, so it supports new games, media formats, etc. 4. is Linux, not *bsd, because Linux is vital for humanity.	Feb 21 10:39
msb	There are only 15 people in the PCLinuxOS IRC support channel, compared to 288 in the Suse channel.	Feb 21 10:59
MinceR	maybe suse needs that much more support	Feb 21 11:00
msb	No. PCLOS is created by one person.	Feb 21 11:00
XRevan86	MinceR: No, PCLinuxOS is really unpopular.	Feb 21 11:00
msb	XRevan86: Do you know why?	Feb 21 11:01
XRevan86	msb: Not really.	Feb 21 11:01
XRevan86	msb: I did look at it but quickly dropped it since repos are very small.	Feb 21 11:01
msb	So there is no distro suitable for the general public in that without-systemd.org list.	Feb 21 11:02
XRevan86	"Trisquel GNU/Linux" сan be removed from that list, by the way	Feb 21 11:03
msb	Suse was very well designed before it adopted systemd. It has lots of support.	Feb 21 11:03
XRevan86	since systemd will be in Trisquel 8.0 (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS)	Feb 21 11:04
msb	Damn!	Feb 21 11:04
msb	I guess we have to pray for Devuan.	Feb 21 11:04
XRevan86	Point Linux is Debian-based.	Feb 21 11:04
XRevan86	Pardus is Debian-based and also sucks a lot	Feb 21 11:05
XRevan86	msb: Pisi Linux is nice but repos are small, too :)	Feb 21 11:05
XRevan86	msb: They also did write there own init system.	Feb 21 11:06
msb	I figure if I haven't heard of it it's too small to be reliable.	Feb 21 11:06
XRevan86	msb: Have you heard about pardus?	Feb 21 11:06
MinceR	still more reliable than Lendows	Feb 21 11:06
XRevan86	msb: before it became a useless Debian derivate	Feb 21 11:07
msb	No.	Feb 21 11:07
XRevan86	Pisi Linux is a fork of Pardus	Feb 21 11:07
msb	None of these obscure distros is going to have much support, or can be counted on to be maintained for years.	Feb 21 11:08
msb	And if one run by one person becomes very popular, he'll probably be killed in a hunting accident by 87 stray bullets and a hand-grenade.	Feb 21 11:09
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msb	I'm not looking for one for myself so much, but for the general public, so they can use it before the systemd distros turn to shit.	Feb 21 11:12
msb	Alternate mode of death for people who oppose the fascist system: suicide by shooting oneself in the head twice.	Feb 21 11:14
msb	Goddess protect the Devuan people!	Feb 21 11:16
msb	VectorLinux has 13 people in its IRC.	Feb 21 11:32
MinceR	salix has 16	Feb 21 11:33
__martin__	holy shiet	Feb 21 11:33
__martin__	had no clue pentagon was this far	Feb 21 11:33
__martin__	"The research is based on extracting narratives from millions of American, Iranian and Chinese weblogs, and subjecting them to automated discourse analysis to compare them quantitatively across the three languages. The investigators then follow up using behavioral experiments with readers/listeners from different cultures to gauge their reaction different narratives “where each story makes an appe	Feb 21 11:33
__martin__	al to a sacred value to explain or justify a morally-questionable behavior of the author.” Finally, the scientists apply neurobiological fMRI scanning to correlate the reactions and personal characteristics of subjects with their brain responses."	Feb 21 11:33
msb	Wow, talk about "morally questionable"!	Feb 21 11:35
msb	So, based on that analysis, they automatically brew up a virus that kills the part of the person's brain that opposes the rulers.	Feb 21 11:36
msb	And deliver it to him by a drone.	Feb 21 11:36
msb	Of course if they're using fMRI they already have him.	Feb 21 11:37
__martin__	at least the main villain in the marvel's latest sci-fi blockbuster "jupiter ascending" copies the looks of young bill gates excellently so people can count one plus one and join the partial truths about him lol	Feb 21 11:46
__martin__	[directors = trangender matrix creators]	Feb 21 11:47
__martin__	trans*	Feb 21 11:47
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schestowitz	XRevan86: fork?	Feb 21 12:46
schestowitz	I think successor?	Feb 21 12:46
schestowitz	Or rename	Feb 21 12:46
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XRevan86	schestowitz: I can really say "successor" since something is still living with a name Pardus	Feb 21 12:50
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5637005	Feb 21 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #avg on 'malware' that "requires an Android device to be “rooted”" and for use to install it http://www.pcworld.com/article/2886932/android-malware-fakes-phone-shutdown-to-steal-data.html		Feb 21 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com \| Android malware fakes phone shutdown to steal your data \| PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jruta ]		Feb 21 12:51
schestowitz	"A scare piece against rooting your phone and/or using app stores like F-Droid?"	Feb 21 12:52
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__martin__	yep, like garret's secure boot apologism	Feb 21 12:52
MinceR	more like a piece of FUD against android, imo	Feb 21 12:52
MinceR	it's from IDG, after all	Feb 21 12:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5629974	Feb 21 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/568579388817735680		Feb 21 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: There is nobody on earth who has exploited 9/11 more frequently, shamelessly and self-servingly than Rudy Giuliani http://t.co/SAnRpC2tVc		Feb 21 12:52
schestowitz	"lol First person to say "9/11" nine-hundred and eleven times in one 10 min speech gets to legally change his name 9/11..."	Feb 21 12:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/roppert/status/569192299680428033	Feb 21 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@roppert: @schestowitz @teirdes Never trust big corporations, no matter how or what they do to convince us. Why? Cause greed is only common motivator.		Feb 21 12:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Riz_myth/status/569193154416545792	Feb 21 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Riz_myth: Dzekoooooooo is Backkkkk 3-0 & it's only 21mins of the game played #MCINEW \| #ManCityNewcastle		Feb 21 13:08
MinceR	http://imgur.com/gallery/kBTXDYe	Feb 21 13:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Creating a Community: Getting Started	Feb 21 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hzMytQB310 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrvg4	Feb 21 14:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines New AMD Processors Supported By Coreboot	Feb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SYH9KHGWfI (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrvq1	Feb 21 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| New AMD Processors Supported By Coreboot \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps are	Feb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	almost here http://t.co/LzVrOrKDi0	Feb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrvq2	Feb 21 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps are almost here \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/KW5K9dSCba	Feb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrvq3	Feb 21 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 15:08
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636987	Feb 21 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Promotion of the 'cloud' religion has led people to not caring about #security or blindly trusting 'cloud' because "everyone's doin' it!"		Feb 21 16:42
schestowitz	"and Big Data, and the Internet of Things. All privacy disasters."	Feb 21 16:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux Distribution	Feb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jjUzzWADEZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrwod	Feb 21 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux Distribution \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts with	Feb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	Geocodable Addresses http://t.co/4uLQB9ZYVL	Feb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrwog	Feb 21 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts with Geocodable Addresses \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22	Feb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	Workstation Pushed This Week	Feb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9ySAQHyAmQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrwoh	Feb 21 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22 Workstation Pushed This Week \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 17:43
schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes	Feb 21 17:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat announces the availability of	Feb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globally	Feb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7WPNcfZW1R (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrwv5	Feb 21 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat announces the availability of Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globally \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released with	Feb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	Better Ubuntu Unity Support	Feb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mvzHuQSFPl (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrwv6	Feb 21 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released with Better Ubuntu Unity Support \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mir Now Depends Upon C++14	Feb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Lb6L0dAmwQ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrwv7	Feb 21 18:25
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schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pilgmEahPUk	Feb 21 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support for	Feb 21 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	Several RISC Microprocessor Architectures	Feb 21 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nS0Q4g8R5H (www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrwxe	Feb 21 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support for Several RISC Microprocessor Architectures \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HD	Feb 21 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics http://t.co/N7OF5A09rM	Feb 21 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 18:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrwxf	Feb 21 18:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/bf604eZvcQ	Feb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrxgy	Feb 21 20:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines [Video] Samsung Launch 2015 Tizen Smart TV in	Feb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	Africa http://t.co/oKlptfYvPU	Feb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrxh0	Feb 21 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| [Video] Samsung Launch 2015 Tizen Smart TV in Africa \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/E1JYNnDH4H	Feb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrxhy	Feb 21 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/1nRQa8mPQA	Feb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrxhz	Feb 21 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/4iPN5BYZxo	Feb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrxi0	Feb 21 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Feb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 21/2/2015: GNOME 3.15.90, Google Wins	Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	Android Lawsuit http://t.co/pnspwGgKrz	Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrxjx	Feb 21 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 21/2/2015: GNOME 3.15.90, Google Wins Android Lawsuit \| Techrights		Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME 3.15.90 http://t.co/E4L5P03GHr	Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	(permalink.gmane.org) "first beta release of	Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	the 3.15 development"	Feb 21 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-permalink.gmane.org \| GNOME 3.15.90		Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrxk0	Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines On Break http://t.co/M4k883iMU9	Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrxk1	Feb 21 20:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PCLinuxOS, A User friendly Linux Distribution	Feb 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/stIcj5LnR6 (www.linuxandubuntu.com)	Feb 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	"Let's take a look at PCLinuxOS, a distro that	Feb 21 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com \| PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux Distribution - LinuxUbuntu Apps Reviews \| Tutorials & HowTos \| News		Feb 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	is user friendly."	Feb 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrxkh	Feb 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HD	Feb 21 20:39
TweetTuxMachines	Graphics http://t.co/i98OFiba7k	Feb 21 20:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HD Graphics - Phoronix		Feb 21 20:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mir Now Depends Upon C++14	Feb 21 20:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qoda3CvfNP (www.phoronix.com)	Feb 21 20:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jrxkj	Feb 21 20:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support for	Feb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	Several RISC Microprocessor Architectures	Feb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kAEmyYEyMA (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 20:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released with	Feb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	Better Ubuntu Unity Support	Feb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jtMFa0MeQi (news.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 20:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat announces the availability of	Feb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globally	Feb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qHBYocr0fK (www.telecomtiger.com)	Feb 21 20:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts with	Feb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	Geocodable Addresses	Feb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vYNT8BYTMH (linux.softpedia.com)	Feb 21 20:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/RifMtyzkDP	Feb 21 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Feb 21 21:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines On Break http://t.co/1xfIWelQLO (error)	Feb 21 21:00
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