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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 14/2/2015: Mageia 5 Beta 3 Released, TPPFeb 15 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Imperialism http://t.co/qfdajvDTTJFeb 15 00:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/2/2015: Mageia 5 Beta 3 Released, TPP Imperialism | TechrightsFeb 15 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Uh oh! Steam Machines are doomed or somethingFeb 15 00:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Uh oh! Steam Machines are doomed or something | Tux MachinesFeb 15 00:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cutegram 2, the Best Telegram Client for LinuxFeb 15 00:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Ever http://t.co/8uzSSDGTikFeb 15 00:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cutegram 2, the Best Telegram Client for Linux Ever | Tux MachinesFeb 15 00:16
cubexyzcheck it out... just learned about this one:Feb 15 00:18
cubexyzhttps://srlabs.de/badusb/Feb 15 00:18
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cubexyzSecure Boot, Intel Boot guard... what else? Oh yeah, Microsoft Surface RT tablets.. I'm sensing a bad trend hereFeb 15 00:23
MinceRTPM, AMTFeb 15 00:25
cubexyzJanuary 1st, 2015... all computers will have to be equipped with a TPM 2.0 module in order to pass Windows 8.1 hardware certificationFeb 15 00:28
cubexyzI assume TPM can be turned off?Feb 15 00:30
MinceRit canFeb 15 00:30
MinceRbut the manufacturer doesn't deserve to be paid for TPMsFeb 15 00:30
MinceRsince it's foisted on users without asking them whether or not they want itFeb 15 00:30
cubexyzok, so which motherboards should I be looking at?Feb 15 00:30
MinceRdunnoFeb 15 00:30
MinceRi gave up on itFeb 15 00:30
MinceRsince my TPM-less laptop was an unreliable piece of shit with crap supportFeb 15 00:31
MinceRfrom dHellFeb 15 00:31
cubexyzwell if the bios is socketed, that's one thingFeb 15 00:33
cubexyzyou can pop the chip out and reprogram itFeb 15 00:33
cubexyzof course that assumes you have a lot of knowledge, or the board is already coreboot supportedFeb 15 00:34
cubexyzI get gigabyte is worth a look, they have co-operated with corebootFeb 15 00:36
cubexyzs/get/guess/Feb 15 00:36
MinceRsounds niceFeb 15 00:38
cubexyzI already reprogrammed Gigabyte GA-6BXCFeb 15 00:38
cubexyzbut it's rather oldFeb 15 00:39
cubexyzthis is the best info I know about:Feb 15 01:08
cubexyzhttp://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/systemsFeb 15 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Recommended Complete Systems — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareFeb 15 01:09
cubexyzI guess if you can find a used Lenovo X200 cheap, buy itFeb 15 01:13
cubexyzor X60Feb 15 01:14
MinceRi already have a ThinkPad X220i TabletFeb 15 01:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/XbhHCcXTidFeb 15 01:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 15 01:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/C20t36NXy4Feb 15 01:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 15 01:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/J9613CnAkkFeb 15 01:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 15 01:36
MinceRgnFeb 15 02:21
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DaemonFCMinceR, There's been some pushback on that, and Microsoft doesn't actually require it.Feb 15 04:53
DaemonFCManufacturers of low end systems would have their profit margin wiped out because a TPM costs them about $30.Feb 15 04:53
DaemonFCAlso, if you don't want to use the TPM, you don't actually have to. If you're really paranoid about it, just unload the Linux kernel modules that are needed to operate it.Feb 15 04:54
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DaemonFCApple says it will make a self-driving car.Feb 15 06:02
DaemonFCThat means that if you end up in a country that hasn't existed in 40 years or on an airport runway, you have only yourself to blame. :)Feb 15 06:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 36 Won't Bring Native YouTube HTML5Feb 15 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Playback, But Will Sync Pinned TilesFeb 15 07:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 36 Won't Bring Native YouTube HTML5 Playback, But Will Sync Pinned Tiles | Tux MachinesFeb 15 07:43
DaemonFChttp://www.zdnet.com/article/top-android-news-of-the-week-shipments-drop-for-first-time-android-wear-shipments-not-big-royalty/Feb 15 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Top Android news of the week: Shipments drop, Android Wear not big, royalty battle ends | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jqdom ]Feb 15 07:57
DaemonFCThe other shoe drops. Samsung announces that Microsoft's bloated crapware will be integrated into the Galaxy S6 and Microsoft drops the patent lawsuits against Samsung.Feb 15 07:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LinuxSocist/status/566843474779992064Feb 15 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LinuxSocist: @schestowitz The same Police that have been corrupt tactics against Freetown Christiana for the past 40 years?Feb 15 08:20
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/onlygoodcomez/status/566891865706754049Feb 15 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@onlygoodcomez: @schestowitz @HeartPowered nothing could preventd them as the plans were to be followed true to suit whoever 'planned them" #falseflagsFeb 15 10:49
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/566912974590205952Feb 15 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz bullshit....covering their ass, why?...everyone knows they are War Criminals.Feb 15 11:07
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schestowitzhttp://www.universityherald.com/articles/15905/20150214/harvard-and-mit-accused-in-lawsuit-of-discriminating-against-the-deaf-in-online-courses.htmFeb 15 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.universityherald.com | Harvard and MIT Accused in Lawsuit of Discriminating Against the Deaf in Online Courses : News : University Herald [ http://ur1.ca/jqfa1 ]Feb 15 13:03
schestowitzhttp://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2015/02/13/why-we-cant-trust-vladimir-putin-n1956760Feb 15 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-townhall.com | Why We Can't Trust Vladimir Putin - Mark Nuckols - Page 1 [ http://ur1.ca/jqfal ]Feb 15 13:05
schestowitz"Vladimir Putin is a gangster at the head of a criminal state. Unfortunately, Russia is a nuclear armed criminal state run by ignorant and dishonest thugs. We simply cannot rely on the Kremlin to deal in good faith or perhaps even act rationally. The threat posed by this aggressor state can’t be simply ignored, but rather must be resolutely confronted and contained. "Feb 15 13:05
schestowitzhttp://www.laprensasa.com/309_america-in-english/2945004_cuban-journalist-who-wrote-about-fidel-castro-dies.htmlFeb 15 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.laprensasa.com | Cuban journalist who wrote about Fidel Castro dies :: La Prensa :: America in English [ http://ur1.ca/jqfdv ]Feb 15 13:22
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynco/status/566959840358957056   https://twitter.com/glynco/status/566960970933624835Feb 15 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz and torture actually makes us less safe http://t.co/QrEhMoFx0tFeb 15 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.humanrightsfirst.org | The Truth on Torture is Here | Human Rights FirstFeb 15 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz more on the voodoo science of torture designed by the modern day equivalent of snake oil salesmen http://t.co/mo32bPVwrZFeb 15 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> stream.aljazeera.com | Doctors and detaineesFeb 15 14:10
schestowitz80 million dollarsFeb 15 14:10
schestowitzmsb: #cia is now pursuing weather warfare http://marketbusinessnews.com/weaponized-weather-inquiry-alarms-rutgers-university-climate-scientist/48186 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2954051/Chill-factor-CIA-weather-query.htmlFeb 15 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marketbusinessnews.com | Weaponized weather inquiry alarms Rutgers University climate scientist - Market Business News [ http://ur1.ca/jqfzf ]Feb 15 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Chill factor at 'cia' weather query | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jqfzg ]Feb 15 14:57
schestowitznot to be confused with that "chemtrail" BSFeb 15 14:57
schestowitz"Feb 15 15:37
schestowitz"As far as we are aware, the fee scheme for the Unitary Patent has not yet been officially agreed, i.e. it is still under discussion."Feb 15 15:37
schestowitzWe attach the document without comment, in the hope that it might be of interest to you.Feb 15 15:37
schestowitzWe forgot the attachment - but the document could be retrieved via the link we gave ... :-)Feb 15 15:37
schestowitz"Feb 15 15:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JohnDiNardo/status/566982321031872513Feb 15 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnDiNardo: @schestowitz Nétanyahou Arrangé Faux Paris Fussilade à Inciter à la Haine à l'égard des Musulmans. http://t.co/llpjSmrTohFeb 15 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> tinyurl.com | NO TITLEFeb 15 15:44
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MinceRgeekingsFeb 15 17:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/YN8t2s8pv8Feb 15 17:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 15 17:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/HVg097AnTUFeb 15 17:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 15 17:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     elementary OS: is financial support the onlyFeb 15 17:21
TweetTuxMachines                 way to help a project grow?Feb 15 17:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lGBLTuX9Va (www.linuxveda.com)Feb 15 17:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | elementary OS: is financial support the only way to help a project grow? - Linux VedaFeb 15 17:21
schestowitz> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.isoFeb 15 17:33
schestowitz> Feb 15 17:33
schestowitz> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.ascFeb 15 17:33
schestowitz> Feb 15 17:33
schestowitz> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.shaFeb 15 17:33
schestowitz> Feb 15 17:33
schestowitz> do not use this in production, this is an internal preview (not even anFeb 15 17:33
schestowitz> alpha)Feb 15 17:33
MinceR:)Feb 15 17:34
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5588112Feb 15 17:38
schestowitz"@sticks_us no, GNU people are hostile with us in fact. We are free software community but they seggregate us because of the license. We just react to this hypocrisy. I had joined in a free software activist group 1 year ago when I was a GNU fan and Debian fan, to the misfortune of them was at the same time I started getting interested in other Unix-like systems (BSD specifically), at the same time OpenBSD project was needing money to Feb 15 17:38
schestowitzkeep the project alive or will die. I went there in IRC channel of that group there to ask to donate to OpenBSD or it could die if it did not receive donation and it is a free software project. The answer I received was: "I won't donate do a project that it's not GPL.". this is a sociopathic attitude, no empathy. After that I left the group because they did not advocate free software, just the product that they loved as fanboys. Now I Feb 15 17:38
schestowitzam a really skeptical and critical about this GNU community. They lie about free software."Feb 15 17:38
schestowitzThere are legitimate reasons for FSF not to support OpenBSD. First, Theo de Raadt smears RMS. Second, UNIX is not GNU/Linux.Feb 15 17:39
MinceRperhaps they don't want to pay for something to be developed that is a gift to abusive corporationsFeb 15 17:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222Feb 15 17:42
schestowitz"http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"Feb 15 17:42
schestowitzproving that mass surveillance is not neededFeb 15 17:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873Feb 15 17:43
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873Feb 15 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz ah, but they'll just say that's because there isn't enough of it :(Feb 15 17:44
schestowitz[17:42] <schestowitz> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222Feb 15 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The assailant, PET the Danish Intelligence service confirmed a moment ago, was known to them." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597663 #surveillance failFeb 15 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #police on the ground - not mass #surveillance - secures #denmark http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_DENMARK_SHOTS_FIRED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-02-14-19-34-22Feb 15 17:45
schestowitz[17:42] <schestowitz> "http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"Feb 15 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Copenhagen shootings suspect was 'known to police' | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jqgyr ]Feb 15 17:45
schestowitzThe public will buy itFeb 15 17:45
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015450534739968Feb 15 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz more worrying is precedent that all we do/say/download should be run past 'thought police' in case is or will become 'bad'Feb 15 17:46
schestowitzNot because of terrorism but perhaps journalism, leaks, etc.Feb 15 17:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015916463198210Feb 15 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz not all of us !Feb 15 17:49
XRevan86I don't get it: http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux this only package in Devuan is built only for amd64Feb 15 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.devuan.org | Index of /devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux/ [ http://ur1.ca/jqgzv ]Feb 15 17:51
XRevan86and preaplpha is only for i386Feb 15 17:51
XRevan86pre-alpha*Feb 15 17:51
XRevan86I don't understand what this image has to offer.Feb 15 17:52
MinceRthe iso was probably built on some developer's own machineFeb 15 17:52
XRevan86MinceR: Why repo is amd64-only then?Feb 15 17:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567016422057193472Feb 15 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz think it's about the motive & because can. The 'excuse'-war on drugs/terror/immigration/copyright violation increasingly secondFeb 15 17:52
MinceRi don't knowFeb 15 17:52
schestowitzindeed, and they get the data too (DEA)Feb 15 17:52
MinceRi don't even know if what is built by Jenkins goes into the repo linked aboveFeb 15 17:53
schestowitzme neitherFeb 15 17:53
schestowitzMinceR: it's not a final product, far from itFeb 15 17:53
schestowitzbut at least they build somethingFeb 15 17:54
MinceRindeedFeb 15 17:54
XRevan86Maybe they have some another repo?Feb 15 17:55
XRevan86Because… they are removing systemd-shim via ugly postinst in devuan-baseconfFeb 15 17:56
XRevan86and policykit-1 package requires libpam-systemdFeb 15 17:56
XRevan86ah, wait, I am silly, they're removing systemd-sysvFeb 15 17:56
XRevan86then it's okay, but still, this .iso of theirs must contain systemdFeb 15 17:57
MinceRi haven't installed it yetFeb 15 17:57
XRevan86Me neither, I'm just theorizing :)Feb 15 17:57
cubexyzmaybe it's time for GentooFeb 15 17:58
XRevan86Xfce requires polkit, polkit requires libpam-systemd, libpam-systemd requires systemd with shim or not.Feb 15 17:58
MinceRgentoo can likely do things devuan won't doFeb 15 17:58
MinceRlike removing polkit and consolekit and dependencies to themFeb 15 17:58
XRevan86and packages.devuan.org doesn't provide an override for itFeb 15 17:58
MinceR(that is, building a full system that does not include them nor depends on them)Feb 15 17:58
XRevan86MinceR: They won't because that's a strange thing to do.Feb 15 17:58
MinceR(i don't know yet how well it will work, but i'm planning to try)Feb 15 17:59
XRevan86what they should do is build polkit without systemdFeb 15 17:59
MinceRi don't think that trying to remove more of poettering & co's crappy code would be "a strange thing to do"Feb 15 17:59
XRevan86MinceR: And so every happy Devuan user will reboot his PC with "shutdown -r now"Feb 15 18:00
MinceRi don't know about "every happy devuan user"Feb 15 18:00
MinceRbut it would be fine for meFeb 15 18:00
XRevan86and that's ConsoleKitFeb 15 18:01
MinceRcertainly preferable than trying to figure out by trial and error yet again how to fix things when something like udisks2 silently diesFeb 15 18:01
XRevan86polkit… I don't know if one can detach it from Xfce or other DEFeb 15 18:01
MinceRand the documentation says nothing about how it's supposed to be started, because magicFeb 15 18:01
MinceRi can live without a DEFeb 15 18:01
MinceRthe point is that in gentoo you can do stuff with dependencies that a binary distro could not easily allow you to doFeb 15 18:02
MinceRbecause there are only so many versions of the same package worth buildingFeb 15 18:02
cubexyzyesFeb 15 18:03
XRevan86MinceR: It also mixes builddeps with regular ones so if something requires libsystemd…Feb 15 18:03
XRevan86or libpulseFeb 15 18:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/566976942327742464Feb 15 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JesselynRadack: NYT: "Even when no idea who did #Copenhagen shootings, @twitter was ablaze w/ anti- #Muslim vitriol" http://t.co/yq3b0VS3jx #IslamophobiaFeb 15 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log InFeb 15 18:07
schestowitzEven without footage from CCTV the choice of first target have away the religionFeb 15 18:07
XRevan86MinceR: Anyway, systemd is not what causes my issue with Devuan.Feb 15 18:08
XRevan86it's just… they called themselved Veteran UNIX Admins, they asked for donations without having a productFeb 15 18:09
XRevan86people advertized DevuanFeb 15 18:09
XRevan86and now they're doing stuff so slow I am starting to wonder if they know what they're doingFeb 15 18:09
cubexyzUnix traditionalists wouldn't use Linux thoughFeb 15 18:09
cubexyzthey would use one of the BSDsFeb 15 18:09
XRevan86cubexyz: There is a special group of 'Unixers' who use OS XFeb 15 18:10
cubexyzsure, there's lots of groupsFeb 15 18:10
MinceRyes, there are people who play with that toy and call it unix, even though it isn'tFeb 15 18:10
XRevan86they tend to call themselves unixoidsFeb 15 18:10
cubexyzthere's groups for AIX and everything one can imagineFeb 15 18:10
MinceRand i don't particularly care who pays The "Open" Group this week for the trademarkFeb 15 18:11
XRevan86cubexyz: I mean, a bit lot of people who call themselves users of Unix are users of OS XFeb 15 18:11
MinceRcall an unreliable, insecure, shiny toy by any name, it will still be an unreliable, insecure, shiny toyFeb 15 18:11
XRevan86a big*Feb 15 18:11
cubexyzXRevan86, the real hackers want source code thoughFeb 15 18:11
cubexyzthey like writing code, fixing it, etcFeb 15 18:11
XRevan86and so I suspect VUA in being onesFeb 15 18:11
MinceRXRevan86: there are many projects that ask for donations before their first releaseFeb 15 18:12
MinceRthere's crowdfunding, for exampleFeb 15 18:12
XRevan86MinceR: These project are big and major.Feb 15 18:12
MinceRno, not all of them areFeb 15 18:12
XRevan86Devuan did nothing serious since the beginning.Feb 15 18:12
MinceRthen don't donate to themFeb 15 18:13
cubexyzXRevan86, there's some pretty serious PDP-11 hackers stillFeb 15 18:13
XRevan86MinceR: I don't, still I know people who did. I don't understand them.Feb 15 18:13
MinceRyeah, how dare they support a project that didn't get to its first release in one day?Feb 15 18:14
cubexyzMinceR, start up a crowdfunding thing for Anti-Systemd :)Feb 15 18:14
MinceRi don't think i need toFeb 15 18:14
XRevan86MinceR: s/one day/several months/;s/first release/serveral packages like patched polkit/Feb 15 18:14
MinceRif enough people want to maintain a debian wheezy-like reliable non-rolling non-systemd distro, that's nice and i'll use itFeb 15 18:15
MinceRif not, i'll just get by with bedrock and gentooFeb 15 18:15
MinceRif that fails, i'll go to netbsd or whateverFeb 15 18:15
MinceReven if IT goes to hell, they can't prevent me from running a release that's still saneFeb 15 18:16
cubexyzhard to imagine every distro going systemdFeb 15 18:16
cubexyzI'm sure there will be some hold-outsFeb 15 18:16
MinceRi hope soFeb 15 18:16
MinceRbut i don't know if it will happenFeb 15 18:17
XRevan86All those Devuan donations could go to Gentoo, for instance :)Feb 15 18:20
MinceRyeah, who needs diversity?Feb 15 18:21
XRevan86or if not Devuan then maybe some other group of people would do the jobFeb 15 18:21
cubexyzI run a lot of old stuff, it's not going to disappearFeb 15 18:21
MinceRso it doesn't matter who does it, as long as it's not Devuan? :>Feb 15 18:21
XRevan86MinceR: No, you don't see my point.Feb 15 18:21
XRevan86Devuan had a lot of fuss, really a lot.Feb 15 18:22
XRevan86and a lot of donationsFeb 15 18:22
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XRevan86and they didn't do anything worthy this attention and moneyFeb 15 18:22
MinceRi haven't seen the "fuss" and don't know how much money they gotFeb 15 18:24
XRevan86MinceR: I've seen several pages on habrahabr about them with lots of commentsFeb 15 18:24
XRevan86major Russian IT blogging networkFeb 15 18:25
MinceRi don't read habrahabrFeb 15 18:25
MinceRand i don't understand much of russianFeb 15 18:25
XRevan86MinceR: Point is: Devuan got a lot of attention.Feb 15 18:25
XRevan86and they wanted it, just read http://debianfork.org/Feb 15 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debianfork.org | Devuan - the GNU/Linux by Veteran Unix Admins.Feb 15 18:26
MinceRon a russian websiteFeb 15 18:26
XRevan86MinceR: I read russian websites so no wonder I'm talking about them :)Feb 15 18:26
MinceRand i don't know how many experienced [ex-]debian package maintainers are working on itFeb 15 18:27
cubexyzdo Russians use Linux a lot?Feb 15 18:27
MinceRseems to be a more significant limit to productivity than donationsFeb 15 18:27
XRevan86cubexyz: Not really.Feb 15 18:27
XRevan86cubexyz: Just like everywhere else.Feb 15 18:27
cubexyzI thought Putin was trying to move people in that directionFeb 15 18:28
cubexyzbut yeah, I talk to the odd Russian Linux personFeb 15 18:29
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, there is an idea to move government sector and schools to GNU/Linux.Feb 15 18:29
XRevan86but the product of this idea is… nothing, really.Feb 15 18:30
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XRevan86A lot of hatred toward Linux from school teachersFeb 15 18:30
MinceRif it's anything like hungary (another post-communist mafia state) then it depends on which vendor pays more in bribes at the momentFeb 15 18:30
MinceRright, also, underfunded teachers sucking at their jobFeb 15 18:30
MinceR"but i can't learn anything new!"Feb 15 18:31
XRevan86MinceR: Yeah, kinda like that.Feb 15 18:31
cubexyzALT Linux is RussianFeb 15 18:31
XRevan86cubexyz: And it sucks.Feb 15 18:31
cubexyzwe have OpenBSD in Canada, along with Vector LinuxFeb 15 18:31
cubexyzXRevan86, ok :)Feb 15 18:31
cubexyzI've never tried itFeb 15 18:31
XRevan86cubexyz: I've seen ALT Linux once (4.0 School Edition) in 2010, I think.Feb 15 18:32
cubexyzI use FC1 (ancient) and OpenBSD, plus I do a lot of classic computingFeb 15 18:32
cubexyzthis box I'm on now is OpenBSDFeb 15 18:32
XRevan86I've wiped rootfs by apt-get dist-upgradeFeb 15 18:32
XRevan86I just don't know what went wrong.Feb 15 18:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/englobalnewsp/status/567025653195616257Feb 15 18:33
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cubexyzI think KDE 3.5.10 had pretty good keyboard support so you could use a lot of different languagesFeb 15 18:34
XRevan86cubexyz: Government doesn't even use LibreOffice.Feb 15 18:35
XRevan86Linux and stuff are just words to get money for them.Feb 15 18:35
XRevan86Talks about government structures moving to Linux are going since 2009.Feb 15 18:36
cubexyzI know Russia had Elektronika series, like BK-0010, which was a DEC cloneFeb 15 18:36
cubexyzso I know some Russians like Unix Feb 15 18:37
XRevan86cubexyz: That's USSR.Feb 15 18:37
XRevan86cubexyz: I know a lot of Russians who like Unix :).Feb 15 18:38
cubexyzElektronika MS-0501 looked pretty goodFeb 15 18:39
cubexyznot sure how expensive it was thoughFeb 15 18:39
cubexyzyes, I guess that must have been USSR eraFeb 15 18:40
XRevan86cubexyz: Yeah.Feb 15 18:40
XRevan86cubexyz: The only Russian (Federation) project I know about is Elbrus.Feb 15 18:41
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus_%28computer%29Feb 15 18:41
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XRevan86cubexyz: Of course, it is used in masses by… no one.Feb 15 18:41
cubexyzI wish we did have an affordable PDP-11 clone in CanadaFeb 15 18:42
cubexyzthere's just FPGA ones, nothing ready out of the boxFeb 15 18:42
XRevan86cubexyz: Trick is that USSR was a different country with different science potential.Feb 15 18:45
MinceRgreatly stunted science potential, thanks to communismFeb 15 18:47
XRevan86MinceR: And you sure we're living in communismFeb 15 18:47
XRevan86I heard it's called capitalismFeb 15 18:47
MinceRthey called it that some of the timeFeb 15 18:48
MinceRthey renamed it like m$ renames their shitFeb 15 18:48
XRevan86MinceR: So, you're saying 80s are the time communism happend to USSRFeb 15 18:48
MinceRi'm not sure i understandFeb 15 18:49
XRevan86and 90s are the time when communism was rebranded to capitalismFeb 15 18:49
cubexyzso you go into a Russia computer store and it's all Windows and AppleFeb 15 18:49
MinceRwell, yes, and it was supposed to have been replacedFeb 15 18:49
cubexyzand some Android I guessFeb 15 18:49
XRevan86MinceR: Soviet science died in 90sFeb 15 18:49
MinceRand then we realized that not much changedFeb 15 18:49
MinceRthanks to putinFeb 15 18:49
XRevan86MinceR: I see a lot of changes.Feb 15 18:49
XRevan86Dead science, dead manufacture…Feb 15 18:49
cubexyzhmmmFeb 15 18:50
XRevan86But the name is YeltsinFeb 15 18:50
XRevan86cubexyz: And some FreeDOSFeb 15 18:50
XRevan86maybe even GNU/Linux, this also happensFeb 15 18:51
cubexyzXRevan86, there's a little bit of Linux and BSD in very small computer stores in CanadaFeb 15 18:51
XRevan86Acer sells some laptops with LinpusFeb 15 18:51
cubexyzit's definitely a fringe thingFeb 15 18:51
XRevan86cubexyz: Same here, of course.Feb 15 18:51
MinceRXRevan86: i mean, the realization was due to putinFeb 15 18:51
XRevan86MinceR: Realization of what?Feb 15 18:51
MinceRthat practically the same thing as the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the worldFeb 15 18:52
cubexyzLinpus is Taiwanese I thinkFeb 15 18:52
cubexyzI tried it once, wasn't too goodFeb 15 18:52
MinceRand is still non-democratic, still oppressiveFeb 15 18:52
XRevan86> the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the worldFeb 15 18:53
XRevan86HmmFeb 15 18:53
XRevan86United States is a union in a wayFeb 15 18:53
XRevan86and Soviet == CouncilFeb 15 18:53
XRevan86US has one…Feb 15 18:53
MinceRthe USA is a different entityFeb 15 18:53
MinceRand a different kind of threatFeb 15 18:54
XRevan86MinceR: What kind of threat USSR was?Feb 15 18:54
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MinceRa lot could be said about thatFeb 15 18:55
XRevan86First democratic decision in Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_referendum,_1991Feb 15 18:55
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XRevan8676% of Soviet citizens voted for keeping USSR.Feb 15 18:57
cubexyzwow, I didn't know thatFeb 15 18:58
XRevan86But oppressive USSR government desided not to listen.Feb 15 18:58
MinceRthere still exist plenty of people in hungary who are deluded enough to believe that life was better under that empireFeb 15 18:58
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MinceRno wonder hungary is dying.Feb 15 18:58
MinceRthey put a new dictatorship in place of the old one, after 20 years of democracyFeb 15 18:59
XRevan86I really know nothing about Hungary.Feb 15 18:59
cubexyzit's interesting to hear what goes on in different countriesFeb 15 18:59
XRevan86cubexyz: It's hard to find good sources of information.Feb 15 19:00
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/Feb 15 19:02
schestowitz"Valentine’s Day is an ancient tradition, mutated from a story of love and devotion by a martyr to a commercial period on the calendar. We all know it’s silly, but it’s fun, and we all love chocolate and roses and…"Feb 15 19:02
XRevan86MinceR: What threat USSR was exactly?Feb 15 19:04
XRevan86I still don't know.Feb 15 19:04
MinceRa military threat as well as a force that tried to force its own brand of dictatorship over ever more countriesFeb 15 19:07
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MinceRand the economies of the oppressed countries were wrecked by themFeb 15 19:07
XRevan86MinceR: Like Iraq?Feb 15 19:07
MinceRfor the sake of religious belief in their anti-economicsFeb 15 19:07
MinceRlike the whole eastern blocFeb 15 19:08
XRevan86and Libiya?Feb 15 19:08
XRevan86or maybe even worse? O_OFeb 15 19:08
XRevan86In GDR people sucked dirt.Feb 15 19:08
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XRevan86East Germany*Feb 15 19:09
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XRevan86Of course, those who were still alive.Feb 15 19:10
XRevan86and all that just because USSR wanted German oil.Feb 15 19:10
MinceRi didn't know about thatFeb 15 19:10
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MinceRdid germany have oil?Feb 15 19:10
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XRevan86MinceR: Me neither.Feb 15 19:11
XRevan86MinceR: s/USSR/US/;s/Germany/$PLACE_A_COUNTRY/Feb 15 19:11
XRevan86MinceR: Okay, even if we assume socialist countries were terrible and awful and now they live like godsFeb 15 19:13
XRevan86MinceR: This is still not a military threatFeb 15 19:13
MinceRthen read up on what russia did in hungary in 1956.Feb 15 19:13
XRevan86MinceR: Stalin's time, I see.Feb 15 19:17
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MinceRwas i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?Feb 15 19:26
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MinceR202051 <@MinceR> was i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?Feb 15 19:31
XRevan86MinceR: hmm?Feb 15 19:31
XRevan86MinceR: I'm reading Wikipedia about the rebellion :)Feb 15 19:31
MinceR:)Feb 15 19:32
XRevan86I see rebels were quite nice guysFeb 15 19:33
XRevan86Wikipedia says something about acid but I can't find a photoFeb 15 19:34
XRevan86> Photographs showed victims with signs of tortureFeb 15 19:35
XRevan86Okay, I don't want to look at thisFeb 15 19:36
XRevan86very… nice… guysFeb 15 19:36
XRevan86> The leaders of all states, including Poland, Yugoslavia, China, which initially welcomed the Hungarian events, agreed that the state in Hungary can be saved only through armed interventionFeb 15 19:38
XRevan86MinceR: This doesn't seem to be a good example of true evilness of USSR.Feb 15 19:40
XRevan86too controversialFeb 15 19:40
MinceRnot according to the USSR and their puppets, certainlyFeb 15 19:40
MinceRthis is a "controversy" like evolution isFeb 15 19:41
XRevan86MinceR: I guess Wikipedia is one of them.Feb 15 19:41
XRevan86MinceR: I didn't quote anything %).Feb 15 19:41
XRevan86everything*Feb 15 19:41
MinceRafaik there is at least one russian nationalist clique that has power over wikipediaFeb 15 19:41
XRevan86MinceR: The most controversial part is what these rebels did.Feb 15 19:43
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/2/2c/Защитники_горкома_ВПТ._Будапешт._30_окт_1956.jpgFeb 15 19:43
MinceRof course, everyone who dares oppose the Holy Russian Empire must be a devil.Feb 15 19:44
schestowitzhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/07/1207471/-Thanks-to-abstinence-teaching-Elizabeth-Smart-felt-I-m-that-chewed-up-piece-of-gumFeb 15 19:44
XRevan86damn, english version has a different structureFeb 15 19:45
XRevan86hard to find parallelsFeb 15 19:45
MinceRshould have started thereFeb 15 19:45
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schestowitz[19:41] <MinceR> this is a "controversy" like evolution isFeb 15 19:46
schestowitzIt is controversialFeb 15 19:46
schestowitzVeryFeb 15 19:46
schestowitzNot for the Catholic Church thoughFeb 15 19:46
schestowitzas they already accept it, unlike most of the dumb followersFeb 15 19:46
XRevan86I think Russian Orphodox still didn'tFeb 15 19:47
schestowitzThough I think the Church will say, "God started Evolution"Feb 15 19:47
XRevan86Orthodox*Feb 15 19:47
MinceRthe catholic pope might, i'm not sure about the rest of the priestsFeb 15 19:47
schestowitzthey're too busy thinking about the childrenFeb 15 19:48
MinceRlolFeb 15 19:48
XRevan86> There were approximately 213 Hungarian Working People's Party members lynched or executed during this periodFeb 15 19:48
XRevan86English Wikipedia is not much into details %)Feb 15 19:49
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schestowitzThe Soviet Union and the United States are different because of transparencyFeb 15 19:49
schestowitzIn Russia you get thrown out the window if you dare effectively criticise the regimeFeb 15 19:50
schestowitzUS dropped to 49th in press freedomFeb 15 19:50
MinceRand because there's still some degree of freedom of speech and democracy in the USAFeb 15 19:50
schestowitzRussia is almost 200thFeb 15 19:50
schestowitzUS used to be much better, now dropping closer to USSRFeb 15 19:50
MinceRnot always thrown out the window, some people get imprisoned insteadFeb 15 19:50
MinceRsay, for insulting the official cult of the state :>Feb 15 19:51
XRevan86schestowitz: I heard about silencing and stuff but throwing out of the window…Feb 15 19:51
XRevan86schestowitz: Have you heard about Lenta.ru?Feb 15 19:51
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenta.ruFeb 15 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Lenta.ru - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 15 19:52
XRevan86schestowitz: The reason for this replacement is an interview with one of the leaders of Right sector Andrey Tarasenko (from Russian Wikipedia)Feb 15 19:54
XRevan86strange that English one didn't mention thatFeb 15 19:55
XRevan86And former editor-in-chief is not in jail or thrown out of the window but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeduzaFeb 15 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Meduza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 15 19:56
*XRevan86 really doesn't like exaggerations.Feb 15 19:57
*MinceR isn't sure if this is concrete case is what schestowitz was talking aboutFeb 15 19:57
XRevan86http://crunchbangplusplus.org/Feb 15 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-crunchbangplusplus.org | #!++ Coming SoonFeb 15 19:58
XRevan86MinceR: It's the only fresh one I know.Feb 15 19:58
MinceRdoes #!++ use systemd by default?Feb 15 19:58
XRevan86MinceR: No idea.Feb 15 19:59
XRevan86MinceR: It is openbox-based.Feb 15 19:59
XRevan86So in either way it is fixable by installing/removing systemd :)Feb 15 19:59
MinceRi'm not sure about thatFeb 15 20:00
XRevan86MinceR: It's Debian, you know.Feb 15 20:00
MinceRfor example, its display manager might have a hard dependencyFeb 15 20:00
XRevan86Actually, I have no idea what crunchbang used as a DM. Not gdm for sure though.Feb 15 20:00
MinceRlightdm, perhapsFeb 15 20:01
MinceRno, slimFeb 15 20:01
XRevan86I vote for slimFeb 15 20:01
XRevan86:DFeb 15 20:01
cubexyzsurely it's not hard to add the DM you want?Feb 15 20:04
MinceRhopefullyFeb 15 20:05
cubexyzI added icewm to openbsdFeb 15 20:05
XRevan86cubexyz: It is Debian.Feb 15 20:05
MinceRi've heard a ridiculous amount of packages depend on systemd crapFeb 15 20:05
XRevan86+ custom repoFeb 15 20:05
XRevan86trick is to find out what that repo is :)Feb 15 20:06
cubexyzon vector I got a ton of different ones: fvwm, icewm, kde, mwm, ratpoison, twm, xfce 4 and failsafeFeb 15 20:06
XRevan86I know where crunch's wasFeb 15 20:06
cubexyzfailsafe is just X and xterm :)Feb 15 20:06
cubexyzno window manager reallyFeb 15 20:06
XRevan86https://github.com/computermouth/cbpp/tree/master/CBPP_beta_02132015_src/localp uhm…Feb 15 20:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | cbpp/CBPP_beta_02132015_src/localp at master · computermouth/cbpp · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/jqhpu ]Feb 15 20:07
XRevan86what I am looking at?Feb 15 20:07
XRevan86> The packages on github and the .iso were solely intended to provide a proof-of-conceptFeb 15 20:08
XRevan86ah, goodFeb 15 20:08
cubexyzthis is what happens when everyone gets too dependent on distrosFeb 15 20:09
XRevan86cubexyz: What do you mean?Feb 15 20:10
cubexyzXRevan86, they get less knowledgeable and a bit lazyFeb 15 20:10
cubexyzold school Linux was a roll your own affairFeb 15 20:10
XRevan86cubexyz: You're talking about systemd or crunch?Feb 15 20:10
cubexyzXRevan86, I'm not really referring to a specific distro, just the fact everyone now expects everything to be 'easy'Feb 15 20:11
XRevan86cubexyz: I don't, I break 'easy' stuff too easily.Feb 15 20:12
cubexyzI put over 100 hours into my first coreboot installFeb 15 20:12
XRevan86I don't know what's wrong with me, I can't work with stuff I don't understand.Feb 15 20:13
cubexyzsometimes you just have to put the extra time inFeb 15 20:13
cubexyzXRevan86, well which distro do you like?Feb 15 20:13
XRevan86cubexyz: From what perspective?Feb 15 20:13
cubexyzuseability, normal day to day workFeb 15 20:14
XRevan86cubexyz: Debian.Feb 15 20:14
XRevan86But I use openSUSE :).Feb 15 20:14
XRevan86because I like the way maintainership is made in it.Feb 15 20:15
XRevan86Debian + Open Build Service infrastructure == distro from my dreamsFeb 15 20:15
cubexyzeverything was going fine with Linux, then Fedora 15, boom, systemdFeb 15 20:18
XRevan86cubexyz: I didn't see Fedora until recently.Feb 15 20:19
XRevan86It's an awful distribution.Feb 15 20:19
XRevan86But I don't see what this has to do with systemdFeb 15 20:19
XRevan86dnf and yum will be awful even without itFeb 15 20:19
cubexyzPoettering works for Red HatFeb 15 20:20
cubexyzit's like systemd central nowFeb 15 20:20
XRevan86cubexyz: I know. I still don't think he broke yum :)Feb 15 20:21
cubexyzwhat's wrong with yum?Feb 15 20:21
XRevan861. terrible way of adding/modifying reposFeb 15 20:21
XRevan862. slow startup with stupid verbose output of what yum plans to do (fixed in dnf)Feb 15 20:22
XRevan863. failure results to dublicate packages, fixable via a separate utilityFeb 15 20:23
XRevan864. all output is just a mess (fixed in dnf)Feb 15 20:24
XRevan865. dnf is not feature-richFeb 15 20:24
cubexyzok, well I'm off Fedora unless you include older versionsFeb 15 20:26
cubexyzFC1 is so old I'm upgrading my source onlyFeb 15 20:26
cubexyzwhat do you think of pkg_add or Portage?Feb 15 20:26
XRevan86cubexyz: I haven't seen pkg_addFeb 15 20:27
XRevan86Portage is complicated and slow, but I can understand why.Feb 15 20:27
cubexyzXRevan86, you might like itFeb 15 20:27
cubexyzThat's what OpenBSD usesFeb 15 20:27
cubexyzalso every repo will eventually disappearFeb 15 20:28
cubexyzunless someone maintains hosting for itFeb 15 20:28
cubexyzof course, the old method was just tarballsFeb 15 20:29
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, I don't put PM on a first place. But Fedora's is so terrible…Feb 15 20:31
XRevan86What else Fedora can propose to compensate that?Feb 15 20:31
cubexyzok, I basically agree, but for different reasonsFeb 15 20:32
cubexyzI'm using slackware based distros and BSD nowFeb 15 20:32
XRevan86different indeedFeb 15 20:33
MinceRyum is unreliableFeb 15 20:33
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, that's a good description of it.Feb 15 20:33
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600928Feb 15 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #devuan is live (preview only) http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.asc http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.shaFeb 15 21:36
schestowitz"Feb 15 21:36
schestowitzInteresting, it might be worth to check it.Feb 15 21:36
schestowitzMeanwhile yesterday I finally tried Debian Jessie, I installed it from scratch to get the true experience, systemd and all. After taking a lot of time to install, maybe because I used a virtual machine, I booted it and noticed lots of daemons and services up, none known or directly useful to me.Feb 15 21:36
schestowitzSo the gdm login screen appeared and without doing anything but waiting something like an X terminal appeared and gdm got restarted. Waited more and saw that a couple of times more. Tried to login and the same happened in the middle of Gnome startup. Tried with Gnome and Gnome Classic and got the same.Feb 15 21:36
schestowitzHave no idea if this is related to systemd or not, but instead of wasting time trying to debug this I'm more compelled to spend time migrating to OpenBSD.Feb 15 21:36
schestowitz"Feb 15 21:36
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MinceR"Journalists and DWN editors reading: please do not link this. We willFeb 15 21:36
MinceRhave another more public release soon :^) Let it be a private valentine "Feb 15 21:37
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5601543Feb 15 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: End of the #m0n0wall project http://m0n0.ch/wall/end_announcement.php #bsd #unixFeb 15 21:37
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schestowitz"That's really sad. I really liked m0n0wall. But I haven't used it myself for quite a long time... It was a good firewall and a router for my needs in the day."Feb 15 21:37
schestowitzAnyone can make a successor to it, like happens with Crunchbang now....Feb 15 21:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597681Feb 15 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "France’s ambassador to Denmark.. police officers who “saved [his] life” in the shooting." http://www.buzzfeed.com/alisonvingiano/copenhagen-shooting?utm_term=.xpMVpXQve&sub=3668607_4986563#.jhr535AAB #surveillance didn't helpFeb 15 21:38
schestowitz"In the sixties Denmark imported people for the working force especially from Tyrkey. After that a a constant stream of people has come here - fugetives, Family reunification and migrants. We are one of the richest nations on Earth, with very good welfare. It is not strange that people want to come here."Feb 15 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.buzzfeed.com | Police Kill Suspect In Two Deadly Copenhagen Shootings - BuzzFeed News [ http://ur1.ca/jqg1d ]Feb 15 21:38
schestowitz"I just talked to one of the employees of a local roast chicken joint (I live in Nørrebro where the moron came from)He said: I don't call him a terrorist, just a young boy who had enough. I am sure he knew who it was. It was 100 m from where they shoot him. And it is true. The young assailant probably knew less about Islam than I do. He simply do what some young men do - go amok. He could have just killed a local pusher and nobody Feb 15 21:39
schestowitzwould have cared. Now it was in the rich part of Copenhagen and targeted at the Swedish artist. That makes a difference for everybody else (and it should). But this guy could have thrown his life away in so many ways."Feb 15 21:39
MinceRit certainly made a difference for the artistFeb 15 21:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     End of the m0n0wall projectFeb 15 21:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Jahia Raises $22.5M to GrowFeb 15 21:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenPi review – a Pi of ThingsFeb 15 21:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat wants you to contain yourself and yourFeb 15 21:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CrunchBang rises from the ashesFeb 15 21:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4cHb47k4Z8 (jimlynch.com)Feb 15 21:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fSWjoNo8tt (www.linuxveda.com)Feb 15 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com | CrunchBang Linux is back from the dead | Jim LynchFeb 15 21:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Edge Of Eternity J-RPG Tribute Now OnFeb 15 22:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Kickstarter, Has A Linux DemoFeb 15 22:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Edge Of Eternity J-RPG Tribute Now On Kickstarter, Has A Linux Demo | GamingOnLinuxFeb 15 22:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenPi review – a Pi of ThingsFeb 15 22:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat wants you to contain yourself and yourFeb 15 22:08
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MinceRi want red hat to contain themselvesFeb 15 22:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3Feb 15 22:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3 - PhoronixFeb 15 22:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As AFeb 15 22:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Ultrabook http://t.co/baIBUmjjSHFeb 15 22:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As A Linux Ultrabook (Intel Core i7 Broadwell) Review - PhoronixFeb 15 22:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As AFeb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Ultrabook http://t.co/nxNWxo672sFeb 15 22:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As A Linux Ultrabook | Tux MachinesFeb 15 22:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Some Linux distributions never changeFeb 15 22:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Some Linux distributions never change | Tux MachinesFeb 15 22:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3Feb 15 22:31
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MinceRhttp://economixcomix.com/home/tpp/Feb 16 00:12
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cubexyzyou get the cheap stuff, but you lose jobs or...Feb 16 00:43
cubexyzyou keep the jobs, and don't get cheap stuffFeb 16 00:43
MinceRand in the end the cheap stuff turns out not to be cheapFeb 16 00:44
MinceRgnFeb 16 00:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 16/2/2015: CrunchBang is Back, OpenPiFeb 16 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Reviewed http://t.co/wJ2JqVlukeFeb 16 01:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 16 01:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/2/2015: CrunchBang is Back, OpenPi Reviewed | TechrightsFeb 16 01:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/200hmMeV4DFeb 16 01:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 16 01:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-PerformingFeb 16 06:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Smartwatch Yet http://t.co/XfNPB4CIY3Feb 16 06:52
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600929Feb 16 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: devuan is live (preview only) http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.asc http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.shaFeb 16 08:38
schestowitz"I do not care about the systemd vs linux debate but it is nice to have alternatives."Feb 16 08:38
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msbWith friends like that...Feb 16 08:50
msbI think the kernel should be folded into systemd.  Then maybe Linus would wake up and say something.Feb 16 08:55
msbIn fact, just put Windows 10 in there and forget about the kernel.Feb 16 08:58
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgZRIqoq70MFeb 16 09:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/CydeRGF89bFeb 16 11:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0Feb 16 11:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not UbuntuFeb 16 11:32
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    http://t.co/L8QsxkFmhS (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 11:32
TweetTuxMachines @speedytux      Feb 16 11:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 – Prometheus (64bit)Feb 16 11:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xhKqJFJ3bp (www.netrunner.com)Feb 16 11:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-PerformingFeb 16 11:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Smartwatch Yet http://t.co/1lXy9FVguxFeb 16 11:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gizmodo.com.au)Feb 16 11:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYDFeb 16 11:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 – Prometheus (64bit)Feb 16 11:53
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msbWow, the comcrap mail server and the whole comcrap website -- comcast.net is down!  But my service is still working.Feb 16 12:02
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msbhttp://www.telesurtv.net/english/telesuragenda/Venezuela-Coup-Thwarted-20150213-0007.htmlFeb 16 12:42
msbhttp://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.htmlFeb 16 12:42
msbhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/britain-and-canada-involved-in-foiled-us-venezuelan-coup-plot/5431523Feb 16 12:42
msbhttp://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11208Feb 16 12:42
msbThe US tried to "regime-change" Venezuela a few days ago!Feb 16 12:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Prediction: 2020 the year of (PC-)BSD on theFeb 16 13:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Leftovers http://t.co/kA2X0tbCQcFeb 16 13:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5Feb 16 13:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially ReleasedFeb 16 13:14
TweetTuxMachines                 with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot TourFeb 16 13:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC eventFeb 16 13:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux DistributionFeb 16 13:15
TweetTuxMachines                 with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot TourFeb 16 13:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATEFeb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Edition - Screenshot TourFeb 16 13:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CuBox-i review – an elegant mini PC which runsFeb 16 13:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Android, Linux and OpenELECFeb 16 13:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What Every Company Can Learn From XiaomiFeb 16 13:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5Feb 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4NTB7kLaar (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 13:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially ReleasedFeb 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines                 with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot TourFeb 16 13:34
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*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released with KDE Plasma...'Feb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC eventFeb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rvCFNg2p4p (www.gsmarena.com)Feb 16 13:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux DistributionFeb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot TourFeb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6pC8Uu7NeG (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8jFeb 16 13:35
TweetTuxMachines@Geekkritik      RT @tuxmachines: Meizu teases #ubuntuphoneFeb 16 13:36
TweetTuxMachines                 ahead of MWC event http://t.co/aKf1G69vd5Feb 16 13:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gsmarena.com)Feb 16 13:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8uFeb 16 13:36
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event...'Feb 16 13:36
schestowitzWhen "Cyber Security" means cracking networks of "enemy" nations and "Consumer Protection" means data #surveillance http://www.utahpeoplespost.com/2015/02/white-house-summit-on-cyber-security-and-consumer-protection/Feb 16 13:43
cubexyzok, giving kwort a tryFeb 16 14:24
cubexyzfull report laterFeb 16 14:24
cubexyzthere's actually something rather like Unix v7 in the Linux worldFeb 16 14:30
cubexyzttylinuxFeb 16 14:30
cubexyzhttp://ttylinux.net/dloadPC-i686.htmlFeb 16 14:30
cubexyzI'm hoping to find something minimal but still with XFeb 16 14:32
cubexyz+Feb 16 14:34
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schestowitzg2`: j0Feb 16 18:33
g2`Hello.Feb 16 18:33
g2`Yes?Feb 16 18:34
schestowitzsorry, wrong keystrokes :-)Feb 16 18:37
schestowitzmeant to respond to MinceRFeb 16 18:37
MinceRj0Feb 16 18:38
schestowitz[21:40] <MinceR> it certainly made a difference for the artistFeb 16 18:39
schestowitzIndeedFeb 16 18:39
schestowitzBut that's taking the statement a bit out of contextFeb 16 18:39
MinceR:>Feb 16 18:40
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g2`I joined here based on because "social" was in the topicFeb 16 18:46
XRevan86g2`: hmm?Feb 16 18:47
schestowitzGNU Social?Feb 16 18:47
g2`i joined here after /alis social topic searchFeb 16 18:47
schestowitzChannel #boycottnovell-social is social tooFeb 16 18:47
XRevan86schestowitz: You're still not in GNU social, right? :)Feb 16 18:48
schestowitzI think it was suggested by balzac around 2009 after Fedora had made such a channelFeb 16 18:48
schestowitzXRevan86: well, I used to use identica, whose successor is SocialFeb 16 18:48
schestowitzStatusNetFeb 16 18:48
XRevan86schestowitz: This is past, I'm interested in present :).Feb 16 18:48
schestowitzrunning what was identi.ca at the timeFeb 16 18:48
schestowitzI am no longer active in identi.ca Feb 16 18:49
schestowitzI moved to DiasporaFeb 16 18:49
XRevan86identi.ca is an instance of pump.ioFeb 16 18:49
XRevan86nowFeb 16 18:49
schestowitzafter three people had invited meFeb 16 18:49
schestowitzpump.io does not interest me much (too basic) and Evan didn't give me my data from StatusNet, so I can't migrate to SocialFeb 16 18:50
XRevan86schestowitz: I did tell you that importing data is not implemented anyway.Feb 16 18:50
schestowitzEven if export was possible, that's somethingFeb 16 18:50
schestowitzI can put online, and self-host, what I postedFeb 16 18:51
schestowitzAs I did with Digg when it went KaputFeb 16 18:51
schestowitzand with twitter before it dies, which it will one dayFeb 16 18:51
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/tweetsFeb 16 18:51
XRevan86schestowitz: You can use twitter bridge, by the way.Feb 16 18:52
XRevan86Anyway, today's identi.ca is not StatusNet and so is not it's dataFeb 16 18:52
g2`I'm not that familiar with the boycott novell situation..Feb 16 18:53
XRevan86schestowitz: You actually could export data from identi.ca but only before it migrated to pump.ioFeb 16 18:53
XRevan86StatusNet and GNU social support exporting.Feb 16 18:53
XRevan86schestowitz: And I don't think Evan stores data from back then.Feb 16 18:54
XRevan86http://skilledtests.com/wiki/Statusnet_problems#data_portabilityFeb 16 18:55
XRevan86schestowitz: Does Diaspora* support Atom/RSS?Feb 16 18:55
XRevan86schestowitz: There are ways of automatic fetching of Atom streams in GNU social.Feb 16 18:56
XRevan86https://loadaverage.org/lor this account works in that wayFeb 16 18:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATEFeb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Edition - Screenshot TourFeb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/KtlUs5Wj5s (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3fFeb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zawlGfEAfP (www.phoronix.com)Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3gFeb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.0 Lollipop Is More Stable Than iOS 8:Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Report http://t.co/71Vewb0jTpFeb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3mFeb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Malta to start government software repositoryFeb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Is6iQWXbcg (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3nFeb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/DmvlOtMepe (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3pFeb 16 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Removing Systemd from Debian (and still runningFeb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines                 a desktop) http://t.co/veUTXN3tpQ (lkcl.net)Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpacFeb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYDFeb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpavFeb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Android 5.0 Lollipop has a tiny slight edgeFeb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines                 when it comes to stability"Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/k9VmH7EZDl (www.techtimes.com)Feb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpaxFeb 16 19:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast andFeb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 User-Friendly Arch Linux DistroFeb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Z0VfdD0i8B (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpb0Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Galicia publishes CeMIT classroom managementFeb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 system http://t.co/u1wxMsgbd0Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpb3Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities CorrectedFeb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 in All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IAs95NXvG0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpb4Feb 16 19:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; ButFeb 16 19:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 16 19:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/E8osEWsSGU (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpblFeb 16 19:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Removing Systemd from Debian (and still runningFeb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 a desktop) http://t.co/oxPxRJVsQnFeb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpbmFeb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LG's new Android Wear smartwatch, the WatchFeb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Urbane, has an all-metal bodyFeb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/sFljz39f3w (www.gizmag.com)Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpbnFeb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xposed Framework For Android Lollipop NowFeb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Available: What You Need To KnowFeb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5JL99N0DrV (www.techtimes.com)Feb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpboFeb 16 19:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 4.4 KitKat Update Now Available forFeb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Xolo Q1200 http://t.co/jTGaT7UVbQFeb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (gadgets.ndtv.com)Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpdzFeb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lenovo A6000, A5000, P70, S90 and Others to GetFeb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Android 5.0 Lollipop Update SoonFeb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GOimx8zt6W (www.ibtimes.co.in)Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpe0Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu for Phones a realityFeb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BQukn70R5G (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpe1Feb 16 19:55
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/piYLcaF.jpgFeb 16 20:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best new icon packs for Android (February 2015)Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 #2 http://t.co/w9I3QXiDOe (www.phonearena.com)Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 "customization is one of the main sellingFeb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 points"Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpfsFeb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cut the Rope Is the First Major Game Ported forFeb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/6hTMsPyDIdFeb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpfuFeb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines@brolettolinux   RT @tuxmachines: Removing Systemd from DebianFeb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (and still running a desktop)Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/NOWU8Q3q79 (lkcl.net)Feb 16 20:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpfwFeb 16 20:06
msbComcast is censoring e-mails!  Any e-mail from Comcast containing this URL is never sent.  http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.htmlFeb 16 20:10
msbschestowitz: no bot?Feb 16 20:10
cubexyzdo you get my emails?Feb 16 20:11
msbWhen did you send one?Feb 16 20:11
cubexyzjust nowFeb 16 20:12
cubexyzjust curious if stuff from my mail server gets throughFeb 16 20:13
cubexyzI see your emails thoughFeb 16 20:13
msbI got it.Feb 16 20:14
cubexyzI got your telesurtv.net messageFeb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arnold's T-800 Terminator Runs Linux KernelFeb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 4.1, We're All Doomed http://t.co/O6kmn2QmtGFeb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/9RiocPoBooFeb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxveda.com)Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqphyFeb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OSFeb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Devs Say People Should PayFeb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LuzRsexXTe (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 nothing forbids it.Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqphzFeb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Legends Of Eisenwald, A Medieval RPG & StrategyFeb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Game Is Coming To Linux https://t.co/jBXhLzaPdWFeb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 16 20:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpi0Feb 16 20:17
msbcubexyz: yes.  I found which url was censored, and tinyurled it.  Then it went thru.Feb 16 20:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the FedoraFeb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 family http://t.co/2h5mvIyVoh (www.scrye.com)Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpiuFeb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Their official site notes that Linux will be aFeb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 platform, and their publisher is theFeb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux-friendly Devolver Digi...Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bo3cYSIIU9 (joindiaspora.com)Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpiwFeb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/mnO14Wru26Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpizFeb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linus Torvalds: I don’t care if TerminatorFeb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 robots run on Linux http://t.co/F7hYruRgy2Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpj1Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OSFeb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Devs Say People Should PayFeb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kfhGEf5TPH (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpj2Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 Officially Released, NotFeb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Yet Ready for 64-bit - VideoFeb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VMMXlf9xAe (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpj3Feb 16 20:22
MinceRsomebody forgot the name "Cyberdyne Systems"Feb 16 20:25
msbAnybody here using Comcast?Feb 16 20:27
MinceRthankfully not meFeb 16 20:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the FedoraFeb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 family http://t.co/Jrm9xDCJEzFeb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpkwFeb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OSFeb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 with the Latest NVIDIA DriversFeb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kn9s1syrKB (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpkxFeb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; ButFeb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)Feb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpkyFeb 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities CorrectedFeb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines                 in All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AQMgS0bUg6 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpokFeb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #BridgeLinux #Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast andFeb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines                 User-Friendly Arch Linux DistroFeb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRb (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnome too: http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRbFeb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpolFeb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian Project Reaches 83% Reproducible BuildsFeb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines                 for Source Packages http://t.co/IcXpRuey8WFeb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpomFeb 16 20:49
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XRevan86http://habrahabr.ru/post/250707 about russian distrosFeb 16 20:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 16/2/2015: Netrunner 15, Bridge LinuxFeb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jss77NuQ1p (techrights.org)Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprfFeb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OSFeb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines                 with the Latest NVIDIA DriversFeb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rIsy3vAxyi (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprgFeb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why I am a Member of the Open Source InitiativeFeb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QEYsBnBa4M (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprjFeb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/3pm3OTgWuh (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 21:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprkFeb 16 21:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/c2wL9ooW3ZFeb 16 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 23:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqqhqFeb 16 23:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/znwJAeu5o8Feb 16 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 23:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqqhrFeb 16 23:10
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cubexyzok, I can report good results for AntiX 13.2Feb 16 23:28
cubexyzdebian based OS, no systemdFeb 16 23:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://t.co/k6x9R9Bdmg (www.datamation.com)Feb 17 01:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqr1gFeb 17 01:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Login2truth/status/567491965370261504Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     gnu linux and in malawi http://t.co/SBNqqxvFJFFeb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (lodahl.blogspot.co.uk)Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqr5oFeb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wk54PkyVyR (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqr5pFeb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Spelling in Malawi http://t.co/CAxixL4JJ7Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqr5qFeb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Dangers of Boutique Linux DistrosFeb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kYESevnmSi (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 01:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqr5sFeb 17 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/i9R9towuz7Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrhnFeb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Linux A Labour Of Love?Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/JjfBm64QyZFeb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrhpFeb 17 02:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     systemd 219 http://t.co/jw2CvLUnYIFeb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrkcFeb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available forFeb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Download, Chromebook Image IncludedFeb 17 02:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cN9BNdfWG3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on theFeb 17 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Community, Says Linux FoundationFeb 17 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Y8EY4JCZ5X (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrkgFeb 17 02:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) releasedFeb 17 03:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TMV4OfxP57 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 03:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install InFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize TasksFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6skwD8GX4L (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsngFeb 17 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install In Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize Tasks | Tux MachinesFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Project Points to Danger of BoutiqueFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Distros http://t.co/3yL0S2S0HgFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsniFeb 17 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Project Points to Danger of Boutique Distros | Tux MachinesFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With YouFeb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Wherever You Go http://t.co/iViCZlwU35Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsuqFeb 17 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever You Go | Tux MachinesFeb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because PrestoFeb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/5gOS8KgoldFeb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsurFeb 17 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto Doesn't Work On Linux? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; ButFeb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/a66qGsD8hI (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 07:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsusFeb 17 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 07:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Elementary OS: A good looking cheap AppleFeb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 lookalike http://t.co/uRl771b465Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtjkFeb 17 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike | Tux MachinesFeb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon http://t.co/QlisN61LVMFeb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtjmFeb 17 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon | Tux MachinesFeb 17 09:49
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros http://t.co/kYESevnmSi'Feb 17 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros | Tux MachinesFeb 17 09:49
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Is Linux A Labour Of Love? http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe'Feb 17 10:26
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But...'Feb 17 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Linux A Labour Of Love? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google's Android One debuts in PHL, pricedFeb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 below P5k http://t.co/TnHNBfAP9yFeb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtqlFeb 17 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced below P5k | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Where do we stand after 30 years after theFeb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 founding of the Free Software Foundation?Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zrQCDx7jDj (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtqmFeb 17 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Where do we stand after 30 years after the founding of the Free Software Foundation? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones NowFeb 17 10:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Available on PCs http://t.co/jNatXbCa6yFeb 17 10:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 10:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtqnFeb 17 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:27
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on...'Feb 17 10:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With YourFeb 17 10:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi https://t.co/QDu9nAYAduFeb 17 10:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.adafruit.com)Feb 17 10:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtrcFeb 17 10:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adafruit.com | Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your Raspberry Pi #piday #raspberrypi @Raspberry_Pi « Adafruit Industries – Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!Feb 17 10:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Radical Idea For More Linux Game PortsFeb 17 10:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BHjD18j97R (www.phoronix.com)Feb 17 10:32
TweetTuxMachines                 "Canonical and Red Hat finance the ports."Feb 17 10:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtryFeb 17 10:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | A Radical Idea For More Linux Game Ports - PhoronixFeb 17 10:32
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike...'Feb 17 10:32
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With...'Feb 17 10:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon reviewedFeb 17 10:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lW0r2hqi5D (distrowatch.com)Feb 17 10:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqttgFeb 17 10:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever...'Feb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines@miniputing      This is actually quite nice RT @tuxmachinesFeb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With YourFeb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi https://t.co/wTkzVQoj40Feb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.adafruit.com) …Feb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtuyFeb 17 10:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Continues to Attack Software FreedomFeb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Through UEFI http://t.co/QuN3a6M5u4Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org) http://t.co/YU2RYG3ERdFeb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu04Feb 17 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel Continues to Attack Software Freedom Through UEFI | TechrightsFeb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Elementary OS: A good looking cheap AppleFeb 17 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI - TechrightsFeb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 lookalike http://t.co/ZV1OFALUV7Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techzim.co.zw)Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu05Feb 17 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike - TechzimFeb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/SqEqer8MpYFeb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com)Feb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu06Feb 17 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | The Usability of GNOME | Linux JournalFeb 17 11:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/gaPHO799G1Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu2kFeb 17 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid | Tux MachinesFeb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open sourceFeb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0w8PvpgIgS (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu2lFeb 17 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source | Tux MachinesFeb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let ItFeb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwgFeb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu2mFeb 17 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don’t Let It Kill Android Players Too | TechrightsFeb 17 11:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     systemd 219 http://t.co/WshyjU01xfFeb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (lists.freedesktop.org)Feb 17 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd 219Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu87Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/NvzSfc3AriFeb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (lists.freedesktop.org)Feb 17 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [ANNOUNCE] wayland 1.7.0Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu88Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Using OpenGL with GTK+ https://t.co/cXtSxEzylhFeb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bassi.io)Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu89Feb 17 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bassi.io | halting problem : Using OpenGL with GTK+Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Linux A Labour Of Love?Feb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lVURJEaLfMFeb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Feb 17 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Is Linux A Labour Of Love? « Everyday Linux UserFeb 17 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu8aFeb 17 11:41
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DaemonFCschestowitz, http://engt.co/1FU17oKFeb 17 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | The NSA hides surveillance software in hard drivesFeb 17 12:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux 4.0Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PzPnGvfDEI (www.linuxplanet.com)Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #kernelFeb 17 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplanet.com | Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux 4.0Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqugbFeb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because PrestoFeb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/obsbOyB5FWFeb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.lifehacker.com.au)Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines                 microsoft silverlight still a cancer on the WebFeb 17 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.com.au | Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto Doesn't Work On Linux? | Lifehacker AustraliaFeb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqugcFeb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Now Open Source Firmware Enters the EquationFeb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gm24wef8E5 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 12:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqugeFeb 17 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation | Tux MachinesFeb 17 12:09
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because...'Feb 17 12:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available forFeb 17 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Download, Chromebook Image IncludedFeb 17 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/J5ylpU2bsf (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 17 12:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jquhfFeb 17 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for Download, Chromebook Image Included - SoftpediaFeb 17 12:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) released Feb 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aza0Qb03MM (frugalware.org)Feb 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jquj9Feb 17 12:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-frugalware.org | FrugalwareFeb 17 12:21
*TweetTuxMachines @whiletrueweb favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'Feb 17 12:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on theFeb 17 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Community, Says Linux FoundationFeb 17 12:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eStktbW0ty (thevarguy.com)Feb 17 12:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqun5Feb 17 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the Community, Says Linux Foundation | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyFeb 17 12:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With YouFeb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Wherever You Go  http://t.co/gieHeNKc14Feb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.makeuseof.com)Feb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqun6Feb 17 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever You GoFeb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DNF 0.6.4 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.5 ReleasedFeb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oL9cSdw9Xh (dnf.baseurl.org)Feb 17 12:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqun7Feb 17 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 0.6.4 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.5 Released | DNFFeb 17 12:39
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*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever...'Feb 17 12:43
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'Feb 17 12:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraphFeb 17 12:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cI7F0ZU4sy (www.phoronix.com)Feb 17 12:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqur3Feb 17 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraph - PhoronixFeb 17 12:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/sWzWyVJJWYFeb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqussFeb 17 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVtFeb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqustFeb 17 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Resistance to successors of #!Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/p8Yxh6ddC4 (crunchbang.org)Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqusuFeb 17 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=419094#p419094 )Feb 17 13:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "It seems, that the passion of the community ofFeb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 #! was too overwhelming..."Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BR6VuTJKYWFeb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk)Feb 17 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk | Digitallofice: #! is dead - Long live #!++Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv3nFeb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will ItFeb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 also see http://t.co/q8fp11QjUFFeb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (androidheadlines.com)Feb 17 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.idigitaltimes.com | First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv3oFeb 17 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-androidheadlines.com | Ubuntu-Powered Meizu Handset Will Be Unveiled At MWC, Company's Official Teaser Confirms | Androidheadlines.comFeb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lw6PRkmLLd (www.linuxuser.co.uk)Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv3pFeb 17 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Screenshot Tour of  Bodhi Linux 3.0.0Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kwnsNEGMoX (news.softpedia.com)Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv44Feb 17 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Officially Released, Uses the Numix Icons - Screenshot Tour - SoftpediaFeb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux GamesFeb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 For Dirt Cheap  https://t.co/Z5wUu4vHY9Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) http://t.co/yEUPCBTkaeFeb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamasutra.com)Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv46Feb 17 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux Games For Dirt Cheap | GamingOnLinuxFeb 17 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamasutra.com | Gamasutra - Press Releases - Steam games for Windows, Mac and Linux – just 25 cents each in the new Trinity Bundle!Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     17 years of defending open source: Join the OSIFeb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 today http://t.co/bayC7upQKyFeb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv48Feb 17 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 17 years of defending open source: Join the OSI today | Tux MachinesFeb 17 13:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for OpenFeb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Experts http://t.co/0WNuj0djaUFeb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv4pFeb 17 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts | Tux MachinesFeb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel columnFeb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/alRgoYZqjx (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv4qFeb 17 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column | Tux MachinesFeb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     2+ years with network management in KDEFeb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Gm94nImZnT (grulja.wordpress.com)Feb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv4rFeb 17 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grulja.wordpress.com | 2+ years with network management in KDE | Jan GrulichFeb 17 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@rmsthebot       @tuxmachines You should say GNU/Linux orFeb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU+Linux.Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv6aFeb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Y6v9d7sU19 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv6bFeb 17 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour - SoftpediaFeb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance,Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines                 this time in the PhilippinesFeb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/q3laUGjTFK (www.phonearena.com)Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YqOkVDli8E (www.gmanetwork.com)Feb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv6cFeb 17 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance, this time in the PhilippinesFeb 17 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gmanetwork.com | Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced below P5k | SciTech | GMA News OnlineFeb 17 14:06
*TweetTuxMachines @HandsOnGeek followed @tuxmachinesFeb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Where do we stand after 30 years after theFeb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 founding of the Free Software Foundation?Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CgpciLYsmz (opensource.com)Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv76Feb 17 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Interview with John Sullivan, Executive Director of Free Software Foundation | Opensource.comFeb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/SoU4zCz9VyFeb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 17 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid - SoftpediaFeb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv77Feb 17 14:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones NowFeb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Available on PCs http://t.co/YFkeMJ7ZsqFeb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 17 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs - SoftpediaFeb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv7xFeb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open sourceFeb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7Lj3MmEOVP (joinup.ec.europa.eu)Feb 17 14:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv7zFeb 17 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source | JoinupFeb 17 14:13
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation http://t.co/gm24wef8E5'Feb 17 14:20
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will...'Feb 17 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation | Tux MachinesFeb 17 14:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for OpenFeb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Experts http://t.co/Smq6BljUrWFeb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (thevarguy.com)Feb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvhrFeb 17 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyFeb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let ItFeb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwgFeb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (techrights.org)Feb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvc7Feb 17 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don’t Let It Kill Android Players Too | TechrightsFeb 17 14:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Leftovers http://t.co/bnPE3aNWb0Feb 17 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvkoFeb 17 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Softpedia's Screenshot ToursFeb 17 15:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Lay4m26NZj (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvkpFeb 17 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Softpedia's Screenshot Tours | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVtFeb 17 15:08
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:08
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 17 15:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvk2Feb 17 15:08
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611035Feb 17 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The corporate media, using so-called 'experts', tries to dub #putin 'insane' while calling #assange and #snowden depressed while besiegedFeb 17 16:38
schestowitz"Because US politicians pushing for a nuclear war with Russia are a model of sanity."Feb 17 16:38
schestowitzThey are the "insane we like", or "our kind of insane"Feb 17 16:38
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XRevan86schestowitz: I was wrong apparently, there is a data import in GNU social.Feb 17 16:59
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MinceRgeekingsFeb 17 18:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth AFeb 17 18:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Look https://t.co/rgMQU7oKMkFeb 17 18:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 17 18:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqwymFeb 17 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth A Look | GamingOnLinuxFeb 17 18:59
MinceRhttp://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/Feb 17 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/jqp6i ]Feb 17 19:03
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MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/strip/2015-02-17Feb 17 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilbert.com | Elbonians Hacked Their Network - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2015-02-17 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open-source software aims to change game forFeb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines                 smart facades http://t.co/rGxvrp9x5NFeb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqx5xFeb 17 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-source software aims to change game for smart facades | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/WawMIl4I6LFeb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqx60Feb 17 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 17/2/2015: SystemD 219, Frugalware 2.0Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (Rigel) Released http://t.co/HzzV7k3SgkFeb 17 19:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 17/2/2015: SystemD 219, Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) Released | TechrightsFeb 17 19:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Pj019nZPXRFeb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxnmFeb 17 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/YaiEg3t5nTFeb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/XBpVyriDpGFeb 17 20:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 PreviewsFeb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 TripleO http://t.co/y0yzy2snWVFeb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews TripleO | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8BxEhsKvgP (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015 | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hcOeLZW7kx (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxo1Feb 17 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SUSE Unveils Open Source Enterprise StorageFeb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Ceph http://t.co/anodaO8bIDFeb 17 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Unveils Open Source Enterprise Storage Based on Ceph | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:52
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Sosumiactually Putin has been dubbed an autistFeb 17 21:02
Sosumibut lolFeb 17 21:02
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/how-omnipotent-hackers-tied-to-the-nsa-hid-for-14-years-and-were-found-at-last/Feb 17 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | How “omnipotent” hackers tied to NSA hid for 14 years—and were found at last | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jqxqs ]Feb 17 21:02
Sosumihas anyone read itFeb 17 21:02
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Sosumiquite a sensational piece for an already known problemFeb 17 21:03
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cubexyzwell it livesFeb 17 21:05
cubexyzgot the ol' HP Laserjet 5N working againFeb 17 21:06
Sosumidefibrillated it? :)Feb 17 21:06
cubexyzhad to turn on the parallel port on one boxFeb 17 21:06
cubexyzcleaned it up, put in a refurbished toner cartridgeFeb 17 21:07
cubexyzit fits in well with all the other old computersFeb 17 21:08
Sosumi:)Feb 17 21:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Enters The ClassroomFeb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/28DQOxDIt2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 21:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Enters The Classroom | Tux MachinesFeb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First fully sandboxed Linux desktop appFeb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oEF8IaEbT4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 21:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app | Tux MachinesFeb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP adds scale to open-source R in latest bigFeb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines                 data platform http://t.co/ZiyZwX8gjJFeb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 21:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HP adds scale to open-source R in latest big data platform | Tux MachinesFeb 17 21:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds forFeb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux http://t.co/kFDQCDIjesFeb 17 21:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 BringsFeb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 DirectX 9 Support Through MesaFeb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/c5BSxsP8Gc (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 21:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqy2kFeb 17 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa | Tux MachinesFeb 17 21:50
*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'HP adds scale to open-source R in latest...'Feb 17 22:19
schestowitzMinceR: https://twitter.com/TelegraphNews/status/567805786388242432Feb 17 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TelegraphNews: Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban http://t.co/LSttpXUoku http://t.co/AgKy6Z5teoFeb 17 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban - TelegraphFeb 17 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TelegraphNews: Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban http://t.co/LSttpXUoku http://t.co/AgKy6Z5teoFeb 17 22:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to theFeb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Philippines in April 2015Feb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/uuI8lfGGsE (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 22:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the Philippines in April 2015 | Tux MachinesFeb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.1 Lollipop Hitting Nexus Devices SoonFeb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Ahead of Motorola’s Smartphones!Feb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hsbSOAv9kt (masterherald.com)Feb 17 22:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-masterherald.com | Android 5.1 Lollipop Hitting Nexus Devices Soon Ahead of Motorola’s Smartphones! | Master HeraldFeb 17 22:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hey, Samsung, LG And HTC—Shunning Android WearFeb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Is A Huge Mistake http://t.co/XY8dZENU0jFeb 17 22:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-readwrite.com | Feb 17 22:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The four best lock screens for your AndroidFeb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines                 phone  http://t.co/wWS4nUPqfwFeb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.greenbot.com)Feb 17 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com | The four best lock screens for your Android phone | GreenbotFeb 17 22:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Any app that works with Android Wear now worksFeb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines                 on your Pebble http://t.co/kUFpFD63TAFeb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.engadget.com)Feb 17 22:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Any app that works with Android Wear now works on your PebbleFeb 17 22:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2Feb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AAcuF67xen (www.zdnet.com)Feb 17 22:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2 | ZDNetFeb 17 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7D7BS444nb (www.linux.com) "beenFeb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines                 using Linux as my only OS since 2005"Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqykrFeb 17 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015 | Linux.comFeb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 PreviewsFeb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines                 TripleO  http://t.co/ZYkRGD1XKU (www.eweek.com)Feb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqyksFeb 17 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews TripleOFeb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inspired by Linux, Pivotal to open-source bulkFeb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines                 of big data suite http://t.co/jj8GLfHasFFeb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Feb 17 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Inspired by Linux, Pivotal to open-source bulk of big data suite • The RegisterFeb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqykuFeb 17 23:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds forFeb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux http://t.co/EJG71ib5GYFeb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) alas, proprietaryFeb 17 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for Linux - SoftpediaFeb 17 23:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First fully sandboxed Linux desktop appFeb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1Rw5YWlmiL (blogs.gnome.org)Feb 17 23:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to theFeb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Philippines in April 2015Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CetLcfPA6V (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Android growing there tooFeb 17 23:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Iot161U6bm (www.zdnet.com)Feb 17 23:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the Philippines in April 2015 - Tizen ExpertsFeb 17 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Google launches Android One in the Philippines | ZDNetFeb 17 23:08
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660Feb 18 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/Feb 18 00:17
schestowitz"#openhardware #FTW"Feb 18 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/jqw71 ]Feb 18 00:17
schestowitz"This is why the Librem laptop I thought was a huge deal, it's creating the first real demand (with $) for Intel to open up the firmware code of their latest chips. That's a huge deal, as open firmware-wise on laptops we're stuck in the freaking Core Duo days right now."Feb 18 00:18
schestowitzAnything with Intel in it is already freedom-hostile by design :-)Feb 18 00:18
cubexyzlibrem is too expensiveFeb 18 00:20
cubexyzbut maybe the price will go down over timeFeb 18 00:21
cubexyzLemote had a Chinese debian-based distro called RAYSFeb 18 00:26
cubexyzso Lemote should work with DebianFeb 18 00:26
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614884Feb 18 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Need #Syriza in #Illinois http://www.thenation.com/article/198073/we-need-syriza-illinois "millionaire governor decrees austerity" #classwar #lootingFeb 18 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenation.com | We Need Syriza in Illinois | The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/jqz5d ]Feb 18 00:29
schestowitz"If austerity is so good then the US can have some."Feb 18 00:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5613031Feb 18 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wars can be construed as "creating jobs". Think of all the stuff that needs to be rebuilt. The "job creator" myth exploits mass ignorance.Feb 18 00:29
schestowitz"That sounds great! Let's create jobs in the US, I have heard there is high unemployment there."Feb 18 00:29
MinceRno, they should work with a distro that caresFeb 18 00:31
MinceRdebian is not such a distroFeb 18 00:31
cubexyzthe corebot devs want intel to drop verified boot in future Feb 18 00:31
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cubexyzthere's a few distros which are based on debian wheezy that should be completely fineFeb 18 00:33
cubexyzwheezy supports amd64, armel, i386, ia64, mips, even s390 :)Feb 18 00:34
cubexyzand no systemdFeb 18 00:34
cubexyzat least antix doesn't use systemdFeb 18 00:35
MinceRgentoo still supports openrcFeb 18 00:36
MinceRslackware still doesn't use cancerdFeb 18 00:36
cubexyzindeed, one of the reasons I use vector linux, based on slackwareFeb 18 00:37
cubexyzI'm still not sure what the deal is with Debian to be honestFeb 18 00:38
MinceRthey jumped the sharkFeb 18 00:40
cubexyzit seems very unlikely the IBM folks would use systemdFeb 18 00:41
MinceRi'm not sure if there are any IBM folks aroundFeb 18 00:41
MinceRthey seem to have sold all the divisions that matterFeb 18 00:41
cubexyzwell, I only mention that because debian has an s390 versionFeb 18 00:41
MinceRthey still have Rational making and selling atrocious crapFeb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 BringsFeb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines                 DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa Feb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rXgIxczoer (news.softpedia.com)Feb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqz84Feb 18 00:42
MinceRand a few clueless suits cozying up with crAppleFeb 18 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa - SoftpediaFeb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/0cRfBfKwIFFeb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 00:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hostkey rotation, redux http://t.co/Gutdvi5eD7Feb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 00:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqz86Feb 18 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hostkey rotation, redux | Tux MachinesFeb 18 00:42
cubexyzAntiX is based on wheezy, but it's sysvinitFeb 18 00:44
cubexyzso it seems that the default for wheezy is no systemdFeb 18 00:45
cubexyzJessie, the immediate successor to Wheezy, defaults to systemdFeb 18 00:46
cubexyzif you want the old sysvinit you can still have it, but it's not the defaultFeb 18 00:47
cubexyzyou might still have chunks of systemd in there thoughFeb 18 00:47
MinceRwheezy already has some systemd contamination in the form of libsystemd-daemon0 and libsystemd-login0Feb 18 00:48
MinceRbut at least doesn't force systemd as pid1Feb 18 00:48
cubexyzI think you can just: apt-get remove libsystemd-loginFeb 18 00:50
cubexyzI'll check on antix for libsystemdFeb 18 00:50
cubexyzI don't remember seeing it, but I'm not 100% sureFeb 18 00:50
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cubexyzyes, systemd is there but it's not being used by icewmFeb 18 01:03
cubexyzmore research is neededFeb 18 01:03
cubexyz"apt-get remove systemd"Feb 18 01:04
cubexyzok, trying that nowFeb 18 01:05
cubexyzsuccessFeb 18 01:11
cubexyzthere's still a few bits of libsystemd stuff in here, but systemd wasn't necessary for anything I was runningFeb 18 01:11
cubexyzone of the other window managers might need systemd for something, but not icewmFeb 18 01:13
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DaemonFCRyan FarmerFeb 18 01:52
DaemonFCJust now · Feb 18 01:52
DaemonFCBill Hicks on Dan Quayle (who has his "vice presidential museum" here in Huntington).Feb 18 01:52
DaemonFC"Little Quayle Boy...Little Damian. Is that guy Damian? Tell me those blank empty eyes aren't gonna glow red in the near future. 'Stop making jokes about meeeeee! (makes Satanic snorting/growling noise) I'll spell potato any fucking way I want! (snorting, growling) Rioters in LA - Let's nuke 'em! Bush was a pussy! (snorting, growling) He held me back!"Feb 18 01:52
DaemonFCLMAO! Still funny after all these years. Must be because of all the hero worship of the one-term do nothing knucklehead that still goes on in Huntington. What a fucking waste of a town. These people are scum. If you ask me, the worst thing about meth....is that it doesn't kill 'em fast enough. I'm serious.Feb 18 01:52
DaemonFCAnyone...who does that to themselves.... I don't think we lost anything. You know? "Duh! Let's smoke crystal meth! Let's fry our brain and die in six months because we live in a town that could easily be mistaken for one of Satan's anal warts! Woohoo!"Feb 18 01:54
MinceRgnFeb 18 02:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why should you consider using a Linux-basedFeb 18 02:27
TweetTuxMachines                 system for music making? http://t.co/WnedxbYMLJFeb 18 02:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.musicradar.com)Feb 18 02:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqzukFeb 18 02:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.musicradar.com | Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? | Bitwig Studio | Tech News | MusicRadarFeb 18 02:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 17/2/2015:  TripleO, Pivotal Feb 18 02:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2pZIUruZKJ (techrights.org)Feb 18 02:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqzulFeb 18 02:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 17/2/2015: TripleO, Pivotal | TechrightsFeb 18 02:27
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615391Feb 18 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/why-should-you-consider-using-a-linux-based-system-for-music-making-616276/Feb 18 09:02
schestowitz"I LOVE LMMS."Feb 18 09:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why should you consider using a Linux-basedFeb 18 09:06
TweetTuxMachines                 system for music making? http://t.co/yIbtdqwe8EFeb 18 09:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 09:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? | Tux MachinesFeb 18 09:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On SteamFeb 18 09:15
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GvhzxZkoEb (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 18 09:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | 2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On Steam | GamingOnLinuxFeb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kodi 14.2 Beta 1 Finally Fixes the Scanning ofFeb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Newly Added Episodes and MoreFeb 18 09:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kodi 14.2 Beta 1 Finally Fixes the Scanning of Newly Added Episodes and More - SoftpediaFeb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenMorrowind Is an Ambitious Remake of TheFeb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind for Linux Feb 18 09:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OpenMorrowind Is an Ambitious Remake of The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind for Linux - SoftpediaFeb 18 09:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How Pebble Became The Cheapest AndroidFeb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Smartwatch Around http://t.co/nokV3W1uMGFeb 18 09:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Android-Based Messaging Apps forFeb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Enterprises http://t.co/ns8KftLagpFeb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.junauza.com)Feb 18 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.junauza.com | Best Android-Based Messaging Apps for Enterprises | TechSourceFeb 18 09:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The KDE 5_15.02 increment contains the KDEFeb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Frameworks 5.7.0, Plasma 5.2.0 and ApplicationsFeb 18 09:52
TweetTuxMachines                 14.12.2." http://t.co/8j7dGkouhRFeb 18 09:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Alien Pastures » KDE 5_15.02 release for Slackware-currentFeb 18 09:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615018Feb 18 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open Source Enters The Classroom http://talkincloud.com/cloud-computing/02172015/open-source-enters-classroom #education #freeswFeb 18 10:08
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schestowitz"Feb 18 10:08
schestowitzThe author assumes the role of schooling is to prepare students to "enter the workforce" and that they "must ensure they teach students the skills that businesses want".Feb 18 10:08
schestowitzAs an IT teacher, I think that's total bullshit. I have refused to teach proprietary software in my classes since 2001. I don't see my school as a training center.Feb 18 10:08
schestowitz"Feb 18 10:08
schestowitzFor private businesses at taxpayers' expenseFeb 18 10:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5607175Feb 18 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #Systemd from #Debian (and still running a desktop) http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/Feb 18 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lkcl.net | Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]Feb 18 10:09
schestowitz"Today I do not feel like warring about systemd. =)"Feb 18 10:09
schestowitz"So.... which one's better? Emacs or Vi?"Feb 18 10:09
schestowitznanoFeb 18 10:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615220Feb 18 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #systemd https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html "notice the "responses" from the systemd crowd" -iophkFeb 18 10:09
schestowitz"Challenging people's religion."Feb 18 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lists.debian.org | Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jr2le ]Feb 18 10:09
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611917Feb 18 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Retroactively shielding E-mail from #surveillance is not possible. The #uk has had (for many years) US bases that harvest, retain all mail.Feb 18 10:10
schestowitz"sure, you only eliminate your own access or delete your own copy."Feb 18 10:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660Feb 18 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/Feb 18 10:10
schestowitz";-) that's why they have got this special logo - to surround and thereby highlite the problem... :-/ "Feb 18 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/jqw71 ]Feb 18 10:10
schestowitzSmoking killsFeb 18 10:10
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611853Feb 18 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Learning from #redhat (and Fedora) staff that Red hat pushes patches from #nsa directly into #linux using redhatcom addresses was shocking.Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz"Playing cover for NSA? That is shocking. Your contact should go to Wikileaks with the evidence. If true, it's a betrayal to the whole free software community."Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz"Feb 18 10:11
schestowitzI would venture a guess that in most of the world outside of the US, the NSA is seen as a completely out of control orwellian nightmare, but as I said, at least the code is open source, documented, versioned and can be traced back to original authors, meaning it's a single-opportunity game: you can try to break the rules, but if we catch you just once, either because of code review or because a customer noticed spyware-like behaviour Feb 18 10:11
schestowitzwhen policing his network traffic, you're out forever.Feb 18 10:11
schestowitzWe use AES, for example, under the same terms/circumstances.Feb 18 10:11
schestowitzThere are much more worrying things like special spyware electronics on hard drives, motherboards and CPUs that aren't as easy to detect or weed out, like UEFI etc.Feb 18 10:11
schestowitzChoose what you worry about carefully: there's a lot more to worry about that there is worry to go around. ;)Feb 18 10:11
schestowitz"Feb 18 10:11
schestowitzCritical flaws do get found, even in FOSS. We need to check where they come from and why.Feb 18 10:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: Nvidia's Android-powered Shield tabletFeb 18 10:14
TweetTuxMachines                 is actually great for gamingFeb 18 10:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Review: Nvidia's Android-powered Shield tablet is great for gamingFeb 18 10:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KF5 Porting Progress https://t.co/BmdRKFXy73Feb 18 10:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdepepo.wordpress.com | KF5 Porting Progress | Keeping Computing PersonalFeb 18 10:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.20 To Land VirtIO 1.0 ImplementationFeb 18 10:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 3.20 To Land VirtIO 1.0 Implementation - PhoronixFeb 18 10:14
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TweetTuxMachines                 ARMv8-Based AMD Embedded R-Series Processor Feb 18 10:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE –Feb 18 10:41
TweetTuxMachines                 report http://t.co/azRXO0NsaMFeb 18 10:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE – report • The RegisterFeb 18 10:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GCompris Complex App Ported to Ubuntu forFeb 18 10:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Phones http://t.co/3NWfeolcFQFeb 18 10:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GCompris Complex App Ported to Ubuntu for Phones - SoftpediaFeb 18 10:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Humble Weekly Bundle: For Lovers Is a BizarreFeb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Mix of Japanese Games and Real PillowcasesFeb 18 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Humble Weekly Bundle: For Lovers Is a Bizarre Mix of Japanese Games and Real Pillowcases - SoftpediaFeb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest WaylandFeb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Support http://t.co/6PN3eqUhJ3Feb 18 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland Support - PhoronixFeb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel http://t.co/yqRFol5PSFFeb 18 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Mark Shuttleworth clearly feels that whatFeb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines                 consumers and developers need, they will inFeb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines                 time learn to want." http://t.co/OCu0Ot4ySwFeb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techcentral.co.za)Feb 18 11:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techcentral.co.za | Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite? | TechCentralFeb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu's foray into phones brings a freshFeb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines                 approach, but will consumers take to it?Feb 18 11:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NGINX: The secret heart of the modern webFeb 18 11:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NGINX: The secret heart of the modern web | Tux MachinesFeb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta VeryFeb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Soon http://t.co/mV5oqJqZGMFeb 18 11:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very Soon | Tux MachinesFeb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest WaylandFeb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Support http://t.co/7N4A2tAFSsFeb 18 11:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland Support | Tux MachinesFeb 18 11:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20Feb 18 11:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel http://t.co/DSZFktQArXFeb 18 11:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20 Kernel | Tux MachinesFeb 18 11:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite?Feb 18 11:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite? | Tux MachinesFeb 18 11:51
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Sosumihttp://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_edge_tops_geekbench_results-news-11239.phpFeb 18 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com | Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge tops Geekbench results - GSMArena.com news [ http://ur1.ca/jr4dm ]Feb 18 15:07
Sosumithat new exymos powered S6 really promisesFeb 18 15:08
SosumiI just hope battery life is goodFeb 18 15:08
Sosumiand that samsung isn't cheating benchmarksFeb 18 15:08
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MinceRhttp://www.cracked.com/article_22028_3-realities-life-as-gamer-in-modern-dictatorship.htmlFeb 18 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | 3 Shocking Things You Realize as a Gamer in a Dictatorship | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/jr54d ]Feb 18 17:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributionsFeb 18 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TCNulVKWFp (www.oregonlive.com)Feb 18 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 adding antifeatures not good. LOCs not a goodFeb 18 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oregonlive.com | Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions | OregonLive.comFeb 18 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 yardstick.Feb 18 18:02
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614232Feb 18 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/17/cia-controlling-climate-geoengineering-climate-change #climate #warfareFeb 18 18:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry | Alan Robock | Comment is free | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jr5j7 ]Feb 18 18:29
schestowitz"#WTF - The only thing I heard about this is NASA and Terraforming a planet."Feb 18 18:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/568114361983569921Feb 18 18:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Obvious *concept* & suspicion...but Case-in-Point, please.Feb 18 18:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta VeryFeb 18 19:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Soon http://t.co/wlMpiKuDqjFeb 18 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributionsFeb 18 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     11 ways to get involved with Humanitarian FOSSFeb 18 19:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568132157824212992  https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568146863171497984     https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568147223625764864  Feb 18 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: 1st day at work fail RT @schestowitz: "Which moron wrote this brainless sh*t?" Martin Eller, Microsoft programmer about Bill Gates' own codeFeb 18 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz : )) I am sure he didn't! Otherwise I doubt he would have the guts to say so!Feb 18 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz Funny incident anyways & a reminder that is better to ask before criticizing... ; )Feb 18 20:45
cubexyzEller is an old old microsoftieFeb 18 20:58
cubexyza pity the way things went... Unix should have wonFeb 18 20:59
cubexyzit kind of did... but it kind of didn'tFeb 18 20:59
cubexyzAlexis de Tocqueville Institution, funded (of course) by MicrosoftFeb 18 21:06
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cubexyzbtw Eller did say that.. read "Barbarians Led by Bill Gates" written by Edstrom and Eller himselfFeb 18 21:18
cubexyzso technically we had an encumbered Western Electric License for Universities for Unix v5/v6 in 1975Feb 18 21:22
cubexyztwo 9 track 800 bpi magnetic tapes, containing the binary code of Unix, plus source code, user manual, programmer's manual, c reference manual, unix assembler reference manualFeb 18 21:23
cubexyzso you could look at the source, play around with it, write programs on a PDP-11Feb 18 21:23
cubexyzbut you technically could not share code with other peopleFeb 18 21:24
cubexyza giant missed opportunity... Unix is closed off for a number of years, Microsoft rises up and a dark ages of computing occurs, probably until 2002 or soFeb 18 21:26
cubexyzno gcc until 1987Feb 18 21:27
cubexyzand I definitely remember hearing about it back then, but it was mostly the closed source era back thenFeb 18 21:27
cubexyzso yeah, 25 year botch up in the operating system spaceFeb 18 21:28
cubexyzACK, the original compiler for Minix, also closed source at the timeFeb 18 21:30
cubexyzso yes, GNU gcc was a huge step forwardFeb 18 21:31
cubexyz386 chip was released in 1985, so we _could_ have had a FOSS operating system in the 80'sFeb 18 21:35
cubexyzbut what did we actually get? Xenix for $$$ and your c compiler probably cost at least $200Feb 18 21:37
cubexyzthat was in the late 80sFeb 18 21:37
cubexyzI suppose if you were rich you could have had Unix on a PDP-11/45 in the 1970s with all the source code for everythingFeb 18 21:38
cubexyzbut no community, not outside of Bell LabsFeb 18 21:39
schestowitzbarcelona football team is here on tuesday to play man city, so you might wanna watch it. I'll be flying to germany when the game kicks off.Feb 18 22:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5619788Feb 18 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There is something #disturbing about #intel portraying itself as top FOSS player for merely giving self-serving patches to hardware-tied SW.Feb 18 22:12
schestowitz"Welcome to most contributions to the Linux kernel? That's par for the course."Feb 18 22:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015]Feb 18 22:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6EoBnPSI76 (www.linuxveda.com)Feb 18 22:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!Feb 18 22:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches PeopleFeb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/hPaYf6sXIYFeb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 22:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People Ubuntu Basics | Tux MachinesFeb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,Feb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/8I2GUhPbgJFeb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr73iFeb 18 22:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19, Starting 9 AM CET | Tux MachinesFeb 18 22:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-drivingFeb 18 22:50
TweetTuxMachines                 car project http://t.co/yShLsFMV2ZFeb 18 22:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 22:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr73kFeb 18 22:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving car project | Tux MachinesFeb 18 22:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Symple Introduces the $89 Planet FriendlyFeb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Linux Web WorkstationFeb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/iIv90tuQ3i (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr78hFeb 18 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation | Tux MachinesFeb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora Comes Bursting With ExtrasFeb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0UeFeni7yY (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr78kFeb 18 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Korora Comes Bursting With Extras | Tux MachinesFeb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle"Feb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 in its history." http://t.co/6bMwhUDLmFFeb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (arstechnica.com)Feb 18 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Linux has 2,000 new developers and gets 10,000 patches for each version | Ars TechnicaFeb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr78lFeb 18 23:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0?Feb 18 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CoLrEn6A6c (linuxgizmos.com) looksFeb 18 23:11
TweetTuxMachines                 likely at this stageFeb 18 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0? ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 18 23:11
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*TweetTuxMachines @gagalago favourited 'Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0? http://t.co/CoLrEn6A6c...'Feb 18 23:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161604912746496  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161869967568896   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568162070753099776   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163197301202945Feb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Killing in Washington State Offers ‘Ferguson’ Moment for Hispanics http://t.co/jB7ZIUc8dw highly disproportionate use of force by #policeFeb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York TimesFeb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Asymmetric warfare methods used by US military are now being pointed inwards, allowing #us #police to do more or less the same to USiansFeb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Finally, and most obviously, you have to start by building trust, which will necessarily require a transition" https://t.co/HA5ZKjVYc7Feb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/02/17/the-secret-squirrels-pitching-countering-violent-extremism/ )Feb 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is Microsoft now providing journalists handouts to spread the lie that Microsoft loves Linux, OSS, etc.? It smacks of that.Feb 18 23:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lightweight/status/568159923676127233  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163670041223168  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568172713157783552   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568173213534068736  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183180387323905Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: If any of this is true, it shows that the Microsoft we know and *don't* love hasn't changed its stripes. http://t.co/AgoS83PHh9Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Reportedly Uses Patent Blackmail Against Android to Force Samsung to Spread Microsoft Spyware (Incorporated Into Android) (Updated) | TechrightsFeb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #gigaom which was paid by #microsoft for secret ads continues to openwash the company. Om Malik, how much does #Nadella bribe you now?Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015] http://t.co/VTAPM7r2t1 very detailedFeb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com | How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #linux fosters cooperation between companies http://t.co/uO6eTcWLbO http://t.co/bUhAr10bgh http://t.co/GgvUop8qVpFeb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Linux Kernel Report: More Contributors Than Ever | Linux.comFeb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | ​Who's writing Linux today? Capitalists | ZDNetFeb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com | More than 80% of Linux kernel development is paid by companies! - Linux VedaFeb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Those in Power learned from experience that (bar framing) by attacking those who publish documents & obey law they just legitimise them moreFeb 18 23:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183713554669568   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183976701140993   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568184152194981888Feb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics http://t.co/IBvnFXCSn9 #freesw #hpFeb 18 23:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.informationweek.com | HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics - InformationWeekFeb 18 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle" in its history." http://t.co/3sAFzLWSUs #kernel #linuxFeb 18 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is #Linux heading toward the big 4.0? http://t.co/KdmSvPta3T looks likely at this stageFeb 18 23:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/568185111201492993Feb 18 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz @DefTechPat even worse, it sounds like they just don't care, if a hardcoded password saves them maintenance costs. 😣Feb 18 23:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,Feb 18 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/1rA3igF9lnFeb 18 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com) http://t.co/vSGZFVWsysFeb 18 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19, Starting 9 AM CET - SoftpediaFeb 18 23:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxg.net)Feb 18 23:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7ccFeb 18 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | The Next BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Flash Sale Starts Tomorrow At 9 AM CET | LinuxG.netFeb 18 23:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches PeopleFeb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/UnpMbJSvqsFeb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 18 23:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People Ubuntu Basics - SoftpediaFeb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as GoldFeb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Member http://t.co/3Z7M3EnScuFeb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxveda.com) Wall Street betting onFeb 18 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux VedaFeb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 linux as the futureFeb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7czFeb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows upFeb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Q6CJLVC8QY (www.zdnet.com)Feb 18 23:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7d0Feb 18 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows up | ZDNetFeb 18 23:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-drivingFeb 18 23:30
TweetTuxMachines                 car project http://t.co/5GfvJ7eSODFeb 18 23:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 18 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving car project ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 18 23:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7djFeb 18 23:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora Comes Bursting With ExtrasFeb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1TVJNtWYyP (www.linuxinsider.com)Feb 18 23:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Korora Comes Bursting With Extras | Reviews | LinuxInsiderFeb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Symple Introduces the $89 Planet FriendlyFeb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Linux Web WorkstationFeb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/sJf9BLbyUS (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7fiFeb 18 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation | Tux MachinesFeb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Should Linux distro developers expect to beFeb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines                 paid for their work? http://t.co/qzvYt5I2SgFeb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (jimlynch.com) what elementaryos does is fine,Feb 18 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com | Should Linux distro developers expect to be paid for their work? | Jim LynchFeb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines                 working was poorFeb 18 23:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7fkFeb 18 23:37
msbcubexyz: I remember a lot of C code being broadcast on Usenet, I think in the 1980s, and archived on Simtel20 at White Sands AFB (I think).Feb 19 00:06
msbcubexyz: It was for Unix.Feb 19 00:07
cubexyzyes simtel20 which originally ran on TOPS-20, but now defunctFeb 19 00:14
cubexyzit's on http://archive.orgFeb 19 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free Books, Movies, Music & Wayback MachineFeb 19 00:15
cubexyzbut archive.org is down at the momentFeb 19 00:15
cubexyzlots of unix v5 era code was lostFeb 19 00:23
cubexyzI've tried to find some for the last 4 yearsFeb 19 00:23
msbI think this open-source code was developed and used by Unix users in universities -- an early Unix community.Feb 19 00:24
cubexyzthere's some usenix tapesFeb 19 00:25
msbcubexyz: Isn't there an alternate archive.org in South America somewhere?Feb 19 00:26
cubexyzmsb, you have a URL for that?Feb 19 00:28
msbcubexyz: I'm looking for one.Feb 19 00:29
msbThe wiki article on archive.org says it has a backup in Bibliotheca Alexandrina in Egypt.  Maybe that's it.Feb 19 00:30
msbarchive.bibalex.orgFeb 19 00:32
cubexyzok, archive.org is back now :)Feb 19 00:34
msbthis is the ancient one -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria  -- destroyed at various times by Romans and Christians.Feb 19 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jr7u2 ]Feb 19 00:37
msbMentioned in _Cosmos_ by Carl Sagan.Feb 19 00:38
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DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10994477_316268991916472_5836528684371541498_n.jpg?oh=be82b3ad750bad1a69a557ae42046822&oe=554B5E31&__gda__=1435272888_4eed01fe71a0008ac746b511b7b843caFeb 19 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is BetterFeb 19 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dTFeOH2JJc (www.gottabemobile.com)Feb 19 00:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7unFeb 19 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is BetterFeb 19 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to DateFeb 19 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pBpDp9U8q7 (www.maximumpc.com)Feb 19 00:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7uoFeb 19 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maximumpc.com | Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date | Maximum PCFeb 19 00:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to theFeb 19 00:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Skies  http://t.co/WyFbLWkSK8 (www.linux.com)Feb 19 00:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7uqFeb 19 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies | Linux.comFeb 19 00:39
cubexyzdestroyed at various times? Destroyed more than once? Feb 19 00:40
msbcubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#DestructionFeb 19 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/g49b6 ]Feb 19 00:40
msbvarious parts and sets of books.Feb 19 00:40
msbMoslems finished the job in 642, because the remaining books weren't the Koran.Feb 19 00:41
msbJCI religion is the scourge of mankind.Feb 19 00:42
MinceR> religion is the scourge of mankind.Feb 19 00:42
MinceRFTFYFeb 19 00:42
cubexyzI'll settle for some Unix v5 source codeFeb 19 00:42
msbNo -- Wicca is beneficial.Feb 19 00:43
cubexyzUnix version 1 was almost lost, part of it wasFeb 19 00:44
cubexyzthe only reason why we have part of it is that there was a book that had the source code listingsFeb 19 00:44
cubexyzmagtape isn't too great for long-term storageFeb 19 00:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to DateFeb 19 00:48
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gpPoAimhph (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 00:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7wsFeb 19 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date | Tux MachinesFeb 19 00:48
msbPoettering: "Just the other day, some idiot posted a "song" on youtube, a creepy work, filled with expletives about me and suggestions of violence."Feb 19 01:05
msbI can't find it.  Anybody have it?Feb 19 01:05
MinceRnever heard of itFeb 19 01:05
msbhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0aTqsl-vfUFeb 19 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Systemd Blues: Took our thing (Wooo) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jr83c ]Feb 19 01:18
msb"You took our thing and now we ain't got it no more"Feb 19 01:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Systemd Gets An Fsck Daemon/ServiceFeb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/n8NFPxFYvr (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr88bFeb 19 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd Gets An Fsck Daemon/Service | Tux MachinesFeb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to theFeb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Skies http://t.co/2SI1cUhEF5Feb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr88cFeb 19 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies | Tux MachinesFeb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That RespectsFeb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Google's Material Design http://t.co/Z12CqR8vLeFeb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects Google's Material Design - SoftpediaFeb 19 01:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr88dFeb 19 01:38
MinceRgnFeb 19 01:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 18/2/2015: Linux Report, FlightGear 3.4Feb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7depUCZN4J (techrights.org)Feb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8dxFeb 19 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/2/2015: Linux Report, FlightGear 3.4 | TechrightsFeb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That RespectsFeb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Google's Material Design http://t.co/VLdtbhhwjmFeb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8dyFeb 19 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects Google's Material Design | Tux MachinesFeb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/vp2QXHfsA6Feb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8dzFeb 19 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/hMJz5f5AIrFeb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8e0Feb 19 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/hxwRwJGRRNFeb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 02:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8e1Feb 19 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 19 02:03
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2CJT4UEKKJRKFeb 19 04:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The State of Wisconsin had its budget trashed by Governor Scott Walker to the point that it will have to default now. [ http://ur1.ca/jr94j ]Feb 19 04:03
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msbIt's just a simple business deal.  Rich people give the politicians money, and the pols lower their taxes.  Nobody else matters.Feb 19 04:17
msbBut it's important to remember that Democrat politicians often do similar things to serve the rich, e.g., attacking Palestine, Serbia, Libya, Ukraine, Venezuela.Feb 19 04:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/My9JY4FG68Feb 19 04:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 04:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr998Feb 19 04:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 19 04:23
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621836Feb 19 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Over time fewer people grasp that Russia lost around x20 more than US in WW2 (people), US came very late to claim landslide victoryFeb 19 08:21
schestowitz__"After having spent considerable time playing both sides of the fence until it was no longer fashionable, and then "winning" by being the only "peaceful" nation to use nuclear weapons."Feb 19 08:21
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621898Feb 19 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To portray #intel as company that deserves credit for #linux rise is misleading. Linux was rising, Intel co-opts it. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IntelFeb 19 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Intel - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/jraln ]Feb 19 08:22
schestowitz__"Well at least they are participating!"Feb 19 08:22
schestowitz__"Microsoft participates too! :)'Feb 19 08:22
schestowitz__The "new Microsoft"Feb 19 08:22
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621993Feb 19 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/810883-dronecode-taking-the-internet-to-the-skies/ #dronecode #linux #freeswFeb 19 08:23
schestowitz__"    "What we essentially did was weaponize Lego with my children around the dining room table," Anderson said."Feb 19 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/jralx ]Feb 19 08:23
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622092Feb 19 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nike is now patenting software http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/fashion/nike-patents-augmented-reality-shoe-design-system-article-1.2118548 #swpats from an evil company (lots of abuses)Feb 19 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nydailynews.com | Nike patents augmented reality shoe design software - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/jram5 ]Feb 19 08:24
schestowitz__"I wonder how this will affect what is happening in the world of Doc M's"Feb 19 08:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux KernelFeb 19 10:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Report http://t.co/DJfY77ndNS (www.linux.com)Feb 19 10:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | 10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux Kernel Report | Linux.comFeb 19 10:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The 8 best desktop environments for LinuxFeb 19 10:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/R7bmoBNsLM (www.itworld.com)Feb 19 10:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | The 8 best desktop environments for Linux | ITworldFeb 19 10:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu EditionFeb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Phone Starts in Less than an HourFeb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7OHcrbAARm (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrb94Feb 19 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Phone Starts in Less than an Hour - Update - SoftpediaFeb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release AddsFeb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy FixesFeb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/93TvEbga5n (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrb95Feb 19 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release Adds Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy Fixes - SoftpediaFeb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default DocumentFeb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Viewer App, Released http://t.co/kN49e0kqK6Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrb96Feb 19 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default Document Viewer App, Released - SoftpediaFeb 19 10:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appearsFeb 19 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 – but we have no idea what’s in storeFeb 19 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/Z0547Imsoa (bgr.com)Feb 19 10:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrba3Feb 19 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appears – but we have no idea what’s in store | BGRFeb 19 10:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Decrypt Android Wear with these 16 essentialFeb 19 10:27
TweetTuxMachines                 tips and tricks  http://t.co/z65UPQUmDLFeb 19 10:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.digitaltrends.com)Feb 19 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | 16 Essential Android Wear Tips and Tricks | Digital TrendsFeb 19 10:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrba4Feb 19 10:27
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition...'Feb 19 10:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel build times for automated buildersFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Dp1z1KFsfT (www.sirena.org.uk) anFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 interesting comparison for linuxFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrbdfFeb 19 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sirena.org.uk | Kernel build times for automated builders < TechnicalitiesFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First PersonFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Horror Will Support LinuxFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/peUmqHgQOR (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrbdgFeb 19 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First Person Horror Will Support Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements forFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows Management and MoreFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/E2mSk5oVLE (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrbdhFeb 19 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements for Windows Management and More - SoftpediaFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance andFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Battery LifeFeb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/zJJd6Gl2Hk (www.techspot.com)Feb 19 10:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrbdiFeb 19 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techspot.com | Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance and Battery Life - TechSpotFeb 19 10:40
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621937Feb 19 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be infeasible for the #cia to drive around sceptical nations with cameras, photographing everything and harvesting MAC addresses.Feb 19 11:01
schestowitz"Google cars were fined in France for sniffing WiFi years ago"Feb 19 11:01
schestowitzmaybe after the data collected had been copied via PRISM to entities that cannot be fined or have their data erasedFeb 19 11:01
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622064Feb 19 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "You can see propaganda being manufactured before your eyes" http://fair.org/blog/2015/02/18/most-americans-agree-that-netanyahu-the-only-one-who-can-save-the-puppy-should-save-the-puppy/ #zionism in #bloombergFeb 19 11:12
schestowitz"Feb 19 11:12
schestowitzA CNN/ORC poll suggests that a large majority opposes the invitation. Further, according to the poll, support for Israel is dwindling.Feb 19 11:12
schestowitzhttp://www.cnn.com/2015/02/17/politics/poll-netanyahu-speech-opposition/Feb 19 11:12
schestowitz"Feb 19 11:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621007Feb 19 11:13
schestowitz"Fake fight, fake narrative, to roll-out (announce) 1984. I need Google (what a fun name; maybe they should spell it with goofy fonts and lots of colors...)... I need Google to look after my privacy, and other rights, like a ho needs a pimp's protection and bookkeeping services."Feb 19 11:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621071Feb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fair.org | Most Americans Agree That Netanyahu, the Only One Who Can Save the Puppy, Should Save the Puppy [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjx ]Feb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnn.com | CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjy ]Feb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/google-calls-fbi-s-plan-to-expand-hacking-power-a-monumental-constitutional-threat-20150218 painting self as "resistor"Feb 19 11:13
schestowitz"Holder is a pig."Feb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nationaljournal.com | Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat - NationalJournal.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjz ]Feb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ericholder a hypocrite that carries water for Power http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/17/eric-holder-death-penalty_n_6701062.html he doesn't really care about innocents. #drones #risenFeb 19 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com | Eric Holder: Moratorium On Death Penalty 'Would Be Appropriate' Pending Supreme Court Decision [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk0 ]Feb 19 11:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621753Feb 19 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/02/18/bloomberg-joins-linux-foundation-as-gold-member/ Wall Street betting on #linux as the futureFeb 19 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com | Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux Veda [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk3 ]Feb 19 11:14
schestowitz"Barf"Feb 19 11:14
schestowitzIndeed,  but at least it helps LinuxFeb 19 11:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614505Feb 19 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 3 white people planning mass murder in a mall and then shooting themselves not much different from suicide bombing. Canada says not terror.Feb 19 11:15
schestowitz"The media assumes gamers are misogynist terrorists, so I'm not surprised at that. Still doesn't mean we should extend the definition just so that anyone also could be "legitimately" be called terrorists."Feb 19 11:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Beam's Android-powered projector fits in yourFeb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 light sockets http://t.co/iFmxYfzaHDFeb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.engadget.com)Feb 19 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Beam's Android-powered projector fits in your light socketsFeb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrbloFeb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen SystemsFeb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Might Get a Linux VersionFeb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rExpoDNUOy (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 nice graphics.Feb 19 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen Systems Might Get a Linux Version - SoftpediaFeb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrblpFeb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Linux kernel is the biggest collaborativeFeb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 software project on the planet" Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aSFAlYmvZS (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 11:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrblqFeb 19 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | The Linux Foundation Shows Us Just How Massive the Kernel Development Really Is - SoftpediaFeb 19 11:23
msbNetanyahu speech: "it's not hard to get many people to respond the way you want to a loaded question" especially when they've been flooded with 60+ years of lying Zionist propaganda in all their newspapers and broadcast media.Feb 19 12:16
schestowitz"Feb 19 12:27
schestowitzOur first case deals with Mr. Rikard Frgacic.Feb 19 12:27
schestowitzWe sent you some background stuff about this previously but here's a short recap.Feb 19 12:27
schestowitz"Feb 19 12:27
MinceRgeekingsFeb 19 12:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese NewFeb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Year http://t.co/D39b1hCbtW (techrights.org)Feb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc3cFeb 19 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese New Year | TechrightsFeb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Demand for Linux devs shows seven per centFeb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines                 increase http://t.co/6nVelQaIzoFeb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc3eFeb 19 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent increase | Tux MachinesFeb 19 13:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/mKmM4yD0y2Feb 19 13:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 13:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc5dFeb 19 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 19 13:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/eamP4UbThAFeb 19 13:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc5eFeb 19 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/cXiLWGnfGaFeb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc5fFeb 19 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Very Soon http://t.co/VaYzfl4Fz8Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 13:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc5gFeb 19 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19 Very Soon | Tux MachinesFeb 19 13:11
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schestowitz"We hope that the above comments will be of some assistance to you in evaluating any material that you get about these cases."Feb 19 13:23
schestowitzheh. I got a great article coming...Feb 19 13:24
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schestowitz"What can you tell the waiting public about the Microsoft associates on the board of the Linux Foundation"Feb 19 15:31
schestowitz"Are they on the Board?"Feb 19 15:31
schestowitz"I got this from Tech Rights which was a little unclear on the subject"Feb 19 15:31
schestowitzThey are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worseFeb 19 15:32
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/can-suepo-sue-epo-it-now-seems-so.htmlFeb 19 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Can SUEPO sue EPO? It now seems so ... [ http://ur1.ca/jrcym ]Feb 19 15:32
schestowitz"    A translation of the decision will make very interesting reading, sending EPAs scurrying to read those parts of the Convention which they have in the past ignored. Does the Protocol Article 3(4) restrict the immunity only to those activities of the EPO "strictly necessary for its administrative and technical operation"? We shall see. Interesting reference to the Srebrenica decision as well."Feb 19 15:32
schestowitz" Yes,Merpel, your understanding of the document is correct. An appeal against this decision (to be lodged with the Hoge Raad) cannot result in the overturning of the finding of the Gerechtshof, unless a procedural violation has been committed by the latter. The Hoge Raad can only cassate a decision (beslissing) if the second instance did not apply the law correctly."Feb 19 15:33
schestowitz"This is a great day. "Feb 19 15:33
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:33
schestowitzI think that's the begining of the end of Battistelli reign.Feb 19 15:33
schestowitzWhen it will explode, it will create a scandal bigger that the Edith Cresson scandal (another French) at the European Commission in 1999. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/1425715/Cresson-charged-four-years-after-European-Union-fraud-scandal.html).Feb 19 15:33
schestowitzEdith Cresson only appointed a friend (and it created a scandal).... Battistelli does 100 times worst. Feb 19 15:33
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Cresson charged four years after European Union fraud scandal - TelegraphFeb 19 15:33
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:34
schestowitzAs we read the various comments from the anonymice, keep in mind, dear Reader, that a comment that gives every appearance of coming from an EPO Examiner might in fact be disinformation coming from a crony of the President. And vice versa, of course.Feb 19 15:34
schestowitzAlready there is stuff on the other thread that seems to come from SUEPO head-bangers. Does it really? I'm skeptical. Feb 19 15:34
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:34
schestowitzLOLFeb 19 15:34
schestowitz"They are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worse"Feb 19 15:44
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:44
schestowitzOther correspondants have confirmed thisFeb 19 15:44
schestowitzhere is a Fwd:-Feb 19 15:44
schestowitz"A quick surf shows they joined the Allseen Alliance, which is an IoTFeb 19 15:44
schestowitzgroup, which is managed by the LF.Feb 19 15:44
schestowitzI don't see them listed on the LF members page itself though - so theyFeb 19 15:44
schestowitzmay have joined an LF sub-group but not the LF as a whole (that is,Feb 19 15:44
schestowitzpaying the LF membership etc.).Feb 19 15:45
schestowitzGraham "Feb 19 15:45
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:45
schestowitzyes, indeedFeb 19 15:45
schestowitzDon't forget OpenDaylight and FoundryFeb 19 15:45
schestowitzNeela and RamjiFeb 19 15:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/568436956830380032Feb 19 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz It's amazing that Microsoft still manages to dominate large hardware-oriented corporations. That indicates limited competition!Feb 19 15:57
schestowitzSome hardware companies like HP are stuffed to the rim (at exec level) with 'former' Microsoft execsFeb 19 15:57
cubexyzHP used to have their own minicomputersFeb 19 16:03
cubexyzHP-UX is still being updatedFeb 19 16:06
cubexyzactually the 'old' HP was Unix friendly Feb 19 16:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/johnmarker005/status/568439201655492608Feb 19 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnmarker005: @schestowitz Kindly retweet this amazing Google-patent pending lock screen app:https://t.co/PHjzjXlPOP Video:https://t.co/qChtLcAZJ7Feb 19 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> play.google.com | App Locker with Guest Mode - Android Apps on Google PlayFeb 19 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Smart Screen Plus Application Locker - Why do you need one - YouTubeFeb 19 16:08
cubexyzHP used to support Redhat & SUSE and they had a Unix support program in Greeley ColoradoFeb 19 16:09
cubexyzthat was disbanded in August 1st, 2001Feb 19 16:10
cubexyzPCL (for printers) and SCL (for scanners) was completely supported in Unix/LinuxFeb 19 16:11
cubexyzand guess what happened?Feb 19 16:13
cubexyzSCL was discontinued...Feb 19 16:13
cubexyzPCL 6 was optimized for windowsFeb 19 16:13
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cubexyzI think PCL 6 is still supported by CUPS thoughFeb 19 16:14
cubexyzPCL 6 'enhanced' was designed to match the drawing model of Windows GDIFeb 19 16:15
cubexyzall this was foreshadowed in the Halloween DocumentsFeb 19 16:16
cubexyzso old Microsofties at HP exec level does not surprise me at allFeb 19 16:17
cubexyzalso blame RealTek for some of this nonsense...Feb 19 16:18
cubexyzRTS8891 chip had no programming documentation, typical of post 2001 scannersFeb 19 16:19
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cubexyzon the other side of the coin Epson scanners all just work with LinuxFeb 19 16:21
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cubexyzmaybe the old Microsofties will kill off HP-UXFeb 19 16:29
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cubexyzhere's an idea... why doesn't the FSF start making their own hardware :)Feb 19 16:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/568450899665924096Feb 19 16:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: Microsoft's Trojan horse strategy to rule the world http://t.co/je6nIlO3oI cc/@schestowitz #TheCloudIsTheAPI #FogComputingFeb 19 16:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techrepublic.com | Microsoft's Trojan horse strategy to rule the world - TechRepublicFeb 19 16:52
cubexyzjust don't give Microsoft any moneyFeb 19 16:57
cubexyzthere's a simple rule :)Feb 19 16:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/568454886230077440Feb 19 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz I'm thinking "Linux" should engulf Microsoft and take on Mac OS X.Feb 19 17:13
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'The 8 best desktop environments for Linux http://t.co/R7bmoBNsLM'Feb 19 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | The 8 best desktop environments for Linux | ITworldFeb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma Media Center at Plasma Sprint 2015Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/85sbn1MtcC (bhush9.github.io)Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines                 great writing style.Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrdq6Feb 19 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bhush9.github.io | Plasma Media Center at Plasma Sprint 2015Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Demand for Linux devs shows seven per centFeb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines                 increase http://t.co/Bfmc4BcE97Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.itproportal.com)Feb 19 17:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrdq7Feb 19 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent increase | ITProPortal.comFeb 19 17:26
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-honestly-thought-youd-enjoy-that-superfish-https-spyware/Feb 19 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lenovo honestly thought you’d enjoy that Superfish HTTPS spyware | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jrdrl ]Feb 19 17:31
SosumilolFeb 19 17:31
XFaCEhttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptopsFeb 19 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Lenovo Is Breaking HTTPS Security on its Recent Laptops | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jrdpa ]Feb 19 17:37
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cubexyzwell if you blank out the hard drive and install Linux/BSD/Plan9 etc I assume that gets rid of superfish?Feb 19 18:24
cubexyzhopefully it's not in the BIOS or other firmwareFeb 19 18:25
MinceRindeedFeb 19 18:25
MinceRor if you get a thinkpadFeb 19 18:25
MinceRat least one site said it's only on the consumer modelsFeb 19 18:25
MinceRhttp://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/Feb 19 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]Feb 19 18:25
MinceRthis oneFeb 19 18:25
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cubexyzlooks like OS level stuffFeb 19 18:27
MinceRunlike the NSA malware :>Feb 19 18:29
MinceR(the one in the HDD firmware, that is)Feb 19 18:30
cubexyznastyFeb 19 18:31
cubexyzthey don't even know if it's NSA or black hatsFeb 19 18:34
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cubexyzor both I supposeFeb 19 18:34
MinceRthe NSA _is_ black hatsFeb 19 18:34
cubexyzyesFeb 19 18:34
MinceRthey've been undermining the security of software used by the taxpayers whom they parasitizeFeb 19 18:34
cubexyzone article mentions nls_933w.dllFeb 19 18:35
cubexyzso it seems they are reprogramming the hard drive with customized firmware via some dllFeb 19 18:36
cubexyzcheck your boot loader for tampering Feb 19 18:38
cubexyzif the code is not removal by flashing there's definitely a problemFeb 19 18:39
cubexyzI mean if they _are_ reprogramming firmware, then it's flashable then it's removable tooFeb 19 18:41
cubexyzstoring itself in hidden sectors of the hard drive, that's cleverFeb 19 18:43
cubexyzsurvives disk formatting and os reinstallsFeb 19 18:44
cubexyzalso... this is interesting too... piezo-electric shock sensors know if your hard drive has been droppedFeb 19 18:49
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cubexyzMinceR, not that I'm recommending Lenovo, but they do have one netbook without an OSFeb 19 18:56
cubexyzI hear they are storing windows 8 product keys in the BIOS now, yet another thing to considerFeb 19 18:58
XRevan86cubexyz: SLIC is the name.Feb 19 18:58
XRevan86(but actually it's MSDM)Feb 19 18:59
cubexyzwhen did that start?Feb 19 19:00
cubexyzI assume it's recentFeb 19 19:00
XRevan86cubexyz: VisnuFeb 19 19:01
XRevan86(visnu (russian): be hanged/freezed)Feb 19 19:02
cubexyzlol, ok I thought you might have meant Vista :)Feb 19 19:03
cubexyzthanks for the clarificationFeb 19 19:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19Feb 19 19:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Very Soon http://t.co/kSYbbsv74aFeb 19 19:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19 Very Soon - SoftpediaFeb 19 19:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/T0H1fs1NesFeb 19 19:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and FirstFeb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 ARMv8 Board http://t.co/i5eRI0GuQ8Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jreeyFeb 19 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First ARMv8 Board | Tux MachinesFeb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/21DJABO83dFeb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jreezFeb 19 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards soldFeb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Wnit2Ivasc (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 19:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jref0Feb 19 19:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold | Tux MachinesFeb 19 19:08
XRevan86Oh my, I just remembered what I have seen this morning (GMT+3)Feb 19 19:09
XRevan86http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-mateFeb 19 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu – Package Search Results -- ubuntu-mate [ http://ur1.ca/jref6 ]Feb 19 19:09
XRevan86Apparently Ubuntu MATE is now an official flavourFeb 19 19:09
cubexyzXRevan86, I hear you can get the license key (if you really must) via:Feb 19 19:16
cubexyzls /sys/firmware/acpi/tablesFeb 19 19:16
XRevan86cubexyz: That is correct :).Feb 19 19:17
cubexyzmy computer is too old for that stuff anywaysFeb 19 19:17
XRevan86Mine had OEM LinpusFeb 19 19:17
XRevan86cubexyz: Still, I know some stuff about it because my friend gave me an OEM key which I gave to my sister :)Feb 19 19:18
XRevan86cubexyz: Other important thing is that OEM Windows should never be booted.Feb 19 19:21
XRevan86this action locks the key to hardwareFeb 19 19:21
cubexyzwell I try my best not to do that :)Feb 19 19:22
cubexyzin the old days I just assembled white box PCs Feb 19 19:22
cubexyzamazing the influence microsoft has on hardware manufacturersFeb 19 19:24
cubexyzit's insidiousFeb 19 19:24
msbUpgrade of HTTP protocol coming:  http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/18/http2-speed-up-web-browsing-desktop-mobileFeb 19 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | What is HTTP/2 and is it going to speed up the web? | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jrexq ]Feb 19 20:35
XRevan86msb: Indeed.Feb 19 20:36
msbHope it doesn't interfere with Ad-Blocker!Feb 19 20:37
XRevan86msb: I doubt that :).Feb 19 20:37
msbI went to look at an article posted here about desktop environments, and it was showing one page at a time with ads.  The first ad showed bug larvae moving around.  I decided I didn't need to read it.Feb 19 20:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP Targets Cisco and Facebook With New Line ofFeb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Open-Source Networking GearFeb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Scl0GKU1s9 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrf20Feb 19 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HP Targets Cisco and Facebook With New Line of Open-Source Networking Gear | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too ManyFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Things Needed Fixing http://t.co/atSokVslDYFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many Things Needed Fixing | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OSFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Designed for Creative PeopleFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/by6SxQfD7E (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrf24Feb 19 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A developer's guide to getting into open sourceFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QToS4UpKK0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 20:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A developer's guide to getting into open source | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lumina Desktop 0.8.2 Released!Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eChU08iRz4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrf26Feb 19 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lumina Desktop 0.8.2 Released! | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://t.co/5vV90nMVBx (www.x.org) X ServerFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.10Feb 19 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org | xorgFeb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/B6Skfp5HSf (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 20:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrf27Feb 19 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | X.Org X Server Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:52
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/SBUUn87.jpgFeb 19 21:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux KernelFeb 19 21:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Releases http://t.co/jrUjFmfCoPFeb 19 21:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 21:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrfbfFeb 19 21:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel Releases | Tux MachinesFeb 19 21:26
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DaemonFCRyan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 20 01:01
DaemonFC5 mins · Feb 20 01:01
DaemonFCA load of bull**** closed down an exit ramp off of I-65.Feb 20 01:01
DaemonFCOn the way to or from the governor's office?Feb 20 01:01
DaemonFChttp://www.jconline.com/story/news/2015/02/19/frozen-fecal-matter-closes-exit-ramp/23685539/?fb_action_ids=316930078517030&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 20 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jconline.com | Frozen fecal matter closes I-65 exit ramp [ http://ur1.ca/jrgov ]Feb 20 01:01
DaemonFCRyan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 20 01:02
DaemonFC26 mins · Feb 20 01:02
DaemonFCAt least the Republicans are finally regulating some women that they all have first hand experience with. (Except for the ones that prefer to meet young men on Craigslist and try to pay them off with their wristwatch and iPad. *grin*)Feb 20 01:02
DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/02/19/indiana-strippers-face-state-licensing-under-senate-bill/23674199/?fb_action_ids=316885015188203&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 20 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indystar.com | Will bill to regulate Indiana strippers curb sex trafficking? [ http://ur1.ca/jrgp0 ]Feb 20 01:02
MinceRpoosicle :DFeb 20 01:02
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MinceRs/oo/oop/Feb 20 01:04
DaemonFCIt had to be frozen so it would get to Governor Pence good and fresh.Feb 20 01:20
DaemonFCMaybe they were going to make a statue of him out of it.Feb 20 01:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OSFeb 20 01:31
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Designed for Creative PeopleFeb 20 01:31
TweetTuxMachines @JESSICA_HUFF   http://t.co/by6SxQfD7E (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 01:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People | Tux MachinesFeb 20 01:31
MinceRgnFeb 20 01:32
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DaemonFC`Ryan Farmer Whenever I read anything that a religious fundamentalist has said, my brain feels like someone sprayed Vicks Chloraseptic Spray all over it. for about 10 minutes. It's the strangest sensation.Feb 20 01:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 19/2/2015: Hewlett-Packard on CumulusFeb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux, Previews of GNOME 3.16 BetaFeb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/yhwu4lvScU (techrights.org)Feb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrgz9Feb 20 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/2/2015: Hewlett-Packard on Cumulus Linux, Previews of GNOME 3.16 Beta | TechrightsFeb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     XOrg X Server Vulnerabilities Closed in UbuntuFeb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines                 14.10 http://t.co/l0NF5Jlmp0Feb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | X.Org X Server Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 - SoftpediaFeb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrgzaFeb 20 01:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Enlist in the Android Army: A beginner’s guideFeb 20 01:48
TweetTuxMachines                 to Android http://t.co/UIwKQFHD4bFeb 20 01:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.digitaltrends.com) defector from apple toFeb 20 01:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | A Beginner's Guide to Android | Everything to Know | Digital TrendsFeb 20 01:48
TweetTuxMachines                 android linuxFeb 20 01:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrgzbFeb 20 01:48
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622078Feb 20 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: it is a sad fact that honest, independent sites often perish whereas those that sell out for company/plutocrat thrive, hire, spread moreFeb 20 01:50
schestowitz"Feb 20 01:50
schestowitzAs wealth is concentrated, power is concentrated. The plutocrats control all the wealth, so they control all the advertising and the advertising funded press. Press concentration brings yet more power to those who already have too much.Feb 20 01:50
schestowitzAnti-trust laws and laws against media consolidation in the US have broken down almost completely.Feb 20 01:50
schestowitz"Feb 20 01:50
schestowitzI didn't know there were such laws at allFeb 20 01:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Boxes 3.16 Will Bring a Cool WelcomeFeb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Screen and Numerous ImprovementsFeb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RjjFvn3PKl (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh0jFeb 20 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Boxes 3.16 Will Bring a Cool Welcome Screen and Numerous Improvements - SoftpediaFeb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cheese 3.16 Beta Brings Warning Fixes and CodeFeb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Cleanup http://t.co/TbfOXtW3PRFeb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Cheese 3.16 Beta Brings Warning Fixes and Code Cleanup - SoftpediaFeb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh0kFeb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unity 8 Continues Working Towards ProperFeb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Support http://t.co/QlvfXI85aBFeb 20 01:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 20 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unity 8 Continues Working Towards Proper Desktop Support - PhoronixFeb 20 01:52
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621970Feb 20 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ect are still scumbags without tact. They ask #microsoft mouthpiece Rob Enderle for 'analysis' of #google http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/81722.html?rss=1 [1/2]Feb 20 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxinsider.com | Yandex Asks Russian Authorities to Drop the Hammer on Google | Tech Law | LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/jrh0x ]Feb 20 01:53
schestowitz"Oh, that guy. http://archive09.linux.com/articles/38081 https://web.archive.org/web/20040928043900/http://pl.caldera.com/2004forum/agenda/Enderle_keynote_SCO-Forum2004.html"Feb 20 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive09.linux.com | Linux.com :: Some advice for SCO/Microsoft ally Rob Enderle [ http://ur1.ca/jrh0z ]Feb 20 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Rob Enderle Keynote Address [ http://ur1.ca/jrh10 ]Feb 20 01:53
schestowitz"Feb 20 01:55
schestowitzIn his speech, Enderle said of Groklaw: "The site is supported by a marketing executive whose future is tied to the future of Linux and has strong political skills." I asked Pamela Jones (PJ to Groklaw regulars) if this were true. She replied:Feb 20 01:55
schestowitzI'm not a marketing exec. He makes these things up, I guess. I also, as you know, do not work for or with IBM. I've stated so publicly, including in a letter to the editor for ZDNet, when they asked me to do so the last time this came up.Feb 20 01:55
schestowitzA simple Google search would have cleared up this matter, had he done one, so I see no excuse for him to say reckless, inaccurate things. I don't understand why anyone would say untrue things about someone. It's terribly wrong, in my view, and I feel he should apologize.Feb 20 01:55
schestowitzI'm just me. Groklaw is me. Me plus a large community that cares. Groklaw just tipped the 7,000 member mark, and it is still growing. That's all there is to it. I gather he imagines Groklaw is too good to be by little ole me, a nobody. Surely IBM must be behind it. But they aren't. Groklaw is a voice from the community, and if we are so effective that SCO and their gang feel they must attack Groklaw, I'm glad. But they should stick to Feb 20 01:55
schestowitzthe truth.Feb 20 01:55
schestowitzOf course, a girl could get positively tuckered out trying to teach the SCO group manners. Feb 20 01:55
schestowitz"Feb 20 01:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Files (Nautilus) 3.16 Beta 1 Is Out and ReadyFeb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 For TestingFeb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/qMw941ntBW (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh1uFeb 20 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Files (Nautilus) 3.16 Beta 1 Is Out and Ready For Testing - SoftpediaFeb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Say hi to cuttlefish! http://t.co/J4eJblsbTwFeb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (vizzzion.org)Feb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh1vFeb 20 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vizzzion.org | Say hi to cuttlefish! « vizZzion.org :: sebas' blogFeb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ETC2 Decoding Support In Mesa's Gallium3D ForFeb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Freedreno http://t.co/NUwmdLAJUrFeb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 20 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh1wFeb 20 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | ETC2 Decoding Support In Mesa's Gallium3D For Freedreno - PhoronixFeb 20 01:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Getting Fedora 21 on the Raspberry Pi 2Feb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7aS9KnTNmt (error)Feb 20 03:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu OS Firmware For The Aquaris E4.5 NowFeb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Available To Download And InstallFeb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/y5BVQxZaAo (androidheadlines.com)Feb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines                 linuxFeb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrheiFeb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution NowFeb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Supports Ubuntu Snappy CoreFeb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrhejFeb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Toshiba Laptops To Have Improved Support InFeb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 3.20 http://t.co/kawUmqXp3GFeb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 20 03:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrhelFeb 20 03:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony SmartWatch 3 review: Android Wear can beFeb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 remarkably unremarkable http://t.co/zBPpAFFbg0Feb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theverge.com)Feb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrhemFeb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "PC preloaded with Wind River’s Linux-based IDPFeb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 XT IoT gateway stack running on quad- orFeb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 dual-core Atoms."Feb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kwMpep8ZVR (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 20 03:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/0uROvL2i8dFeb 20 03:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 03:02
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DaemonFCControlled Opposition says:Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFCWhy should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos. Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFCIf we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFCControlled Opposition says:Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFCWhy should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos. Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFCIf we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.Feb 20 03:50
DaemonFCoopsFeb 20 03:50
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 20 03:51
DaemonFCDid you meet an 18 year old man in a hotel room for a really good time while being an outspoken anti-gay Republican? :)Feb 20 03:51
DaemonFCIt's not really the part about meeting an 18 year old in a hotel room that bothers me. I mean, 18 year olds know what they're doing. He knew he was going to have some Republican's nasty old balls all over him, and that was his choice. Eww. It's the whole anti-gay Republican part. Be one or the other. You know? :)Feb 20 03:51
DaemonFCThen, to top it all off, he got away with the "I spoke with God and he says I've been forgiven." thing, and the people who voted for him because he was sponsoring the anti-gay marriage amendment idea re-elected him.Feb 20 03:51
DaemonFCOf course, that was before the state went to court and got the gay marriage ban thrown out as unconstitutional. Now they're not even debating passing the amendment because they'd rather the entire issue go away without costing the state another $400,000 to defend another unconstitutional ban.Feb 20 03:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/9bIbCR1HmSFeb 20 04:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 04:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jri45Feb 20 04:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution NowFeb 20 04:57
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Supports Ubuntu Snappy CoreFeb 20 04:57
TweetTuxMachines @ColoDeskSpace  http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 04:57
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984Feb 20 09:20
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75Feb 20 09:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984Feb 20 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suffert: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://t.co/kz8JNpKt3a via @schestowitzFeb 20 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.comFeb 20 09:21
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568665907704131584  https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568666303663357953Feb 20 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz didn't it start with minix? depends how far you want to go I guessFeb 20 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz is it ethical to change tv channel? seems like a no brainer to meFeb 20 09:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     News coverage from linux events (of whichFeb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines                 there's plenty at present)Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wCNBBu7Zoh (www.linux.com)Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wNhr6Brkae (fossforce.com)Feb 20 09:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | 10 Great Quotes on PaaS and Containers from Collab Summit 2015 | Linux.comFeb 20 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Getting Things Started at SCALE 13x | FOSS ForceFeb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proprietary android apps on a proprietaryFeb 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 platform? No thanks, BlackBerryFeb 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WVdh6RSTk4 (www.reuters.com)Feb 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VX0up7dhsW (recode.net)Feb 20 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | BlackBerry updates software, offers access to Android apps | ReutersFeb 20 09:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-recode.net | BlackBerry Update Offers Access to Android Apps | Re/codeFeb 20 09:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Handset makers test Android's reignFeb 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ROHQp3Poty (registration.ft.com) Feb 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines                 negativity about the linux based leaderFeb 20 09:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjouFeb 20 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Handset makers test Android’s reign - FT.comFeb 20 09:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628227Feb 20 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/568499434264403969Feb 20 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: the more we learn about #NSA/#GCHQ exploits, the more I'm amazed at how little they've been able to do with them in fighting crimeFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz"Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz    Big Banks launder drug cartel money, and profit hugely off the police-state (the only three actors the Prohibition War benefits)Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz    Almost all public national 'debt' and bailouts are money handed to private financial interests who then use it to consolidate the economy, and buy public infrastructure from the 'bankrupt' governments (How to be a Fascist 101)Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz    Almost all foreign aid goes to warlords (gives power to the very people who destroy resilient communities)Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz    the CIA funds, arms and trains Al Qaeda/ISIS/ISIL/whatever-Hill-&-Knowlton-tells-them-to-call-their-asset-this-week-to-confuse-the-public, and yet we're supposed to give up our rights, drain our treasure, and go to war - 'cause terroristsFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    IMF and World Bank development plans literally retro-velope economies and societiesFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    "Free Trade" agreements are multi-thousand page documents negotiated in secretFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    Dept of War renamed Dept of 'Defense' right as military might projected offensively across the globe exponentiallyFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    'Federal' Reserve isn't federalFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    Gitmo was supposed to be closedFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    'Mission Accomplished'Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz    Attacked by Saudi extremists, go to war with only secular country in the region who had nothing to do with anythingFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    'Cost Plus'Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz    "Those WMD's have got to be around here somewhere? Over here? Nope! Under here? Nope!"Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz    "Patriot" ActFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    Parallel ConstructionFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    Operation NorthwoodsFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    False-FlagsFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    Organizations like ALEC draft all legislation (will the Gentleman from Coke please cede the podium to the Senator from BP), and legislators don't even read the bills they pass (and legalize insider-trading for themselves)Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz    Whistle-blowers, journalists and other political/economic enemies are imprisoned, character-assassinated, or murdered and tortured, while all nations point at each other and scream "Abuse!"Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz    The military bulldozes date/fig/pomogranite farms and protects poppy fields/distribution networks in 'peace-keeping' missionsFeb 20 09:43
schestowitz    The Establishment (including GE's MSNBC/Feb 20 09:43
schestowitzMaybe we can stop accepting unaccountable power Elites' justifications at face value...Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz"Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz"Ick....cynicism...I'm going to go back to anticipating my Librem 15 and buying my hobby farm..."Feb 20 09:43
schestowitz"Happy thoughts, positive thoughts, productive thoughts A_A"Feb 20 09:43
schestowitzLibrem won't do enough to correct things, but it's a startFeb 20 09:44
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5620844Feb 20 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/JamesRisen/status/567911078623068161Feb 20 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JamesRisen: I plan to spend the rest of my life fighting to undo damage done to press freedom in the United States by Barack Obama and Eric Holder.Feb 20 09:45
schestowitz"Yeah, sorry everyone. I swear I don't smoke ganja (lucky for us all)"Feb 20 09:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628334Feb 20 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lenovo’s bundled adware also comes with hole http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptops back door? #lenovo #thinkpad #chinaFeb 20 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thenextweb.com | Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]Feb 20 09:46
schestowitz"Only available for Windows?"Feb 20 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org | Lenovo Is Breaking HTTPS Security on its Recent Laptops | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jrdpa ]Feb 20 09:46
schestowitzAnother Windows exclusiveFeb 20 09:46
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Handset makers test Android's reign http://t.co/ROHQp3Poty negativity...'Feb 20 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Handset makers test Android’s reign - FT.comFeb 20 09:50
*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'News coverage from linux events (of which there's...'Feb 20 09:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     All Ubuntu Phones Are Now Sold Out, Says BQ onFeb 20 09:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Twitter http://t.co/QhaX2tF3OwFeb 20 09:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | All Ubuntu Phones Are Now Sold Out, Says BQ on Twitter - SoftpediaFeb 20 09:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjsqFeb 20 09:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peterelvidge/status/568709604495863808Feb 20 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@peterelvidge: @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/kfigt5KAD9… http://t.co/w7oWhlDcp3Feb 20 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> t.co | t.co / TwitterFeb 20 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> pixelartistpete.wordpress.com | @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/HjFtv5r5MQ #debian #futurestudio #gnu #linux #art | Epic Pixel Art By Peter ElvidgeFeb 20 10:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OSFeb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Designed for Creative PeopleFeb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jLrOo6zdMU (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjxhFeb 20 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People - SoftpediaFeb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards soldFeb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LiW5Wr139f (www.zdnet.com)Feb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9FIx2BopMD (www.theinquirer.net)Feb 20 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold | ZDNetFeb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjxkFeb 20 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 models sold as total sales hit five million- The InquirerFeb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On LinuxFeb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/um3b8jykFS (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjxlFeb 20 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 20 10:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP to Ship Commodity Switches With CumulusFeb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux OS http://t.co/FmMA3m8tGMFeb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.datacenterknowledge.com)Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cKtc4XS0EC (bits.blogs.nytimes.com)Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pSCbW09PvoFeb 20 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datacenterknowledge.com | HP to Ship Commodity Switches With Cumulus Linux OS | Data Center KnowledgeFeb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com)Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjy2Feb 20 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York TimesFeb 20 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com | HP Announces Linux Powered Open Networking SwitchesFeb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and FirstFeb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 ARMv8 Board http://t.co/lUgtrC9jYuFeb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com) http://t.co/wnfApGOgt1Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (mrpogson.com)Feb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjy5Feb 20 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First ARMv8 Board | Linux.comFeb 20 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Hmmmm… 96Boards Could Be To ARM What ATX Was To x86 | Robert PogsonFeb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In ForFeb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Snappy Ubuntu http://t.co/jU60NbszvvFeb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.forbes.com)  http://t.co/JonJFiRSvDFeb 20 10:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In For Snappy Ubuntu - ForbesFeb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.canadianreviewer.com)Feb 20 10:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.canadianreviewer.com | Sales of Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition smartphone begin in EU - Canadian Reviewer - Reviews, News and Opinion with a Canadian PerspectiveFeb 20 10:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too ManyFeb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Things Needed Fixing http://t.co/UEtM7ZN10AFeb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many Things Needed Fixing - SoftpediaFeb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjzbFeb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Qt 5.5 is expected to ship in about twoFeb 20 10:30
TweetTuxMachines                 months" http://t.co/TsJKjqcwn4Feb 20 10:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 20 10:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Qt 5.5 Features: Many Exciting Improvements - PhoronixFeb 20 10:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chainsaw Warrior  Lords of the Night Board GameFeb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Lands On Steam for LinuxFeb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/28J1SNoCc5 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrk3iFeb 20 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Chainsaw Warrior: Lords of the Night Board Game Lands on Steam for Linux - SoftpediaFeb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Wear 5.0.2 Update Starts Rolling OutFeb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 With Some Google Fit Fixes In TowFeb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/mG8qf2QAci (www.androidpolice.com)Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrk3jFeb 20 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Android Wear 5.0.2 Update Starts Rolling Out With Some Google Fit Fixes In TowFeb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker Thriving http://t.co/AOyo5SIcvLFeb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (ostatic.com) http://t.co/uNLyPEYuO0Feb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.businesswire.com)Feb 20 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | RightScale's State of the Cloud Survey: Hybrid Clouds, Docker ThrivingFeb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrk3kFeb 20 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | Docker Project Partners with Oceanic Society for Open-source-a-thon to Support Whale and Marine Wildlife Conservation | Business WireFeb 20 10:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LinHES R8.3 Released http://t.co/1xHzMvJKWUFeb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linhes.org)Feb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrk5jFeb 20 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linhes.org | LinHES - LinHES R8.3 ReleasedFeb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux KernelFeb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Releases http://t.co/R1xdfIyPRL (www.eweek.com)Feb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/N6vjX8Rqmz (ostatic.com)Feb 20 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel ReleasesFeb 20 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | The Linux Foundation Reports on the State of Kernel DevelopmentFeb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS releasedFeb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AcrcBlXlGV (lists.ubuntu.com)Feb 20 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS releasedFeb 20 10:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     RAID 5/6 Continues Being Improved For BtrfsFeb 20 11:22
TweetTuxMachines                 With Linux 3.20 http://t.co/uNkovwA9CQFeb 20 11:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 20 11:22
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkaiFeb 20 11:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | RAID 5/6 Continues Being Improved For Btrfs With Linux 3.20 - PhoronixFeb 20 11:22
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Chainsaw Warrior Lords of the Night Board...'Feb 20 11:22
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too...'Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released withFeb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Updated Apps and BugfixesFeb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GnyXE2aCn0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrklhFeb 20 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released with Updated Apps and Bugfixes | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature FreezeFeb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lAOdTUNiQl (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkljFeb 20 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature Freeze | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Qt3D 2.0 The FrameGraph http://t.co/6xSy0Z1WBvFeb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrklkFeb 20 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt3D 2.0 The FrameGraph | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pqtjRdQMeU (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkllFeb 20 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3 | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS IsFeb 20 12:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8Feb 20 12:48
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0c4EO7Zb6I (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 12:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkqlFeb 20 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8 | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Final has arrived!"Feb 20 12:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fywnPElGslFeb 20 12:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.clearfoundation.com)Feb 20 12:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkqmFeb 20 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.clearfoundation.com | 490-clearos-community-660-now-available | ClearFoundation-BlogFeb 20 12:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xubuntu Lubuntu & Ubuntu GNOME have newFeb 20 12:49
TweetTuxMachines                 releases  http://t.co/ES6OqbMCslFeb 20 12:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/SnUti9J9pYFeb 20 12:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature FreezeFeb 20 12:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3Feb 20 12:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS IsFeb 20 12:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releasesFeb 20 13:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Now Available!Feb 20 13:15
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Sosumihttps://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/Feb 20 15:13
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__martin__news broke regards whole secure access products and solutions trust-breachFeb 20 16:30
__martin__see the correlation between mainstream media's ukraine & tanks / isis propaganda push and flow of Ed Joseph Snow docs?Feb 20 16:31
__martin__it ain't just a gas reserves and vast land waiting for gmo in UA anymore..Feb 20 16:31
__martin__alsoFeb 20 16:32
__martin__dafuq is thisFeb 20 16:32
__martin__http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/02/19/1830232/microsofts-first-azure-hosted-service-is-powered-by-linuxFeb 20 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org | Microsoft's First Azure Hosted Service Is Powered By Linux - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jrm21 ]Feb 20 16:32
__martin__schestowitz: how many sim cards you got with wife? any older than 2010?Feb 20 16:34
__martin__how does one reason out exfiltration and newspeak to his female partner without coming out as a person with mental disorder?Feb 20 16:35
__martin__tried myself hard and failed xDFeb 20 16:36
__martin__btw btw, the utter worst shiet of the week, CNN headline calls those "eathing healthy and demanding non-gmo veggies" with this "Orthorexia nervosa" Feb 20 16:37
__martin__eating*Feb 20 16:38
__martin__</end_rant>Feb 20 16:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 20/2/2015: Bloomberg Joins LinuxFeb 20 17:37
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cubexyzwhich OEM would you say is the most Linux friendly?Feb 20 18:07
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cubexyzI guess Acer isn't too badFeb 20 18:09
cubexyznot that I really think Acer laptops are good, they're notFeb 20 18:10
cubexyzbut they do support LinuxFeb 20 18:10
XRevan86cubexyz: I'm using an Acer laptop :)Feb 20 18:10
XRevan86and so is my motherFeb 20 18:10
cubexyzany problems with overheating and shutdowns?Feb 20 18:10
XRevan86cubexyz: nope o_0Feb 20 18:10
cubexyzwhich models? Feb 20 18:10
XRevan86TE11HC and TE69KBFeb 20 18:10
cubexyzI have an acer aspire 5534 which overheatsFeb 20 18:11
XRevan86Notable that on TE69KB stock Linpus goes to kernel panic instantly after booting.Feb 20 18:11
cubexyzhave you ever tried panasonic toughbooks? They work very wellFeb 20 18:12
XRevan86cubexyz: No, never.Feb 20 18:12
XRevan86cubexyz: I'm not an expert in laptops, these two are being chosen because they were the best in price category "truly cheap"Feb 20 18:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/sDx97vXgTgFeb 20 18:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 20 18:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3Feb 20 18:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3 | Tux MachinesFeb 20 18:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     INTERVIEW: TIM O’REILLY http://t.co/w9ytCaWD7hFeb 20 18:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | INTERVIEW: TIM O’REILLY | Tux MachinesFeb 20 18:15
cubexyzXRevan86, I thought about finding a laptop with easily upgradeable video cardFeb 20 18:16
cubexyze.g. a laptop that supports MXMFeb 20 18:16
cubexyzI'm not completely happy with any laptop, but toughbook CF-48 comes closeFeb 20 18:17
XRevan86And I prefer integrated graphics :)Feb 20 18:17
cubexyzI have to consider repairabilityFeb 20 18:18
XRevan86cubexyz: I doubt that's easy to check.Feb 20 18:19
cubexyzyou're right, it's notFeb 20 18:19
XRevan86and impossible to have on thin laptopsFeb 20 18:19
cubexyzit's one of the things I'm always researchingFeb 20 18:19
cubexyzI see lots of info on "least repairable laptops"Feb 20 18:20
XRevan86cubexyz: Let me guess: it's full of macbooksFeb 20 18:21
cubexyzyesFeb 20 18:21
XRevan86https://startpage.com/do/search?query=least+repairable+laptops who could imagine…Feb 20 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-startpage.com | least repairable laptops - Startpage Web Search [ http://ur1.ca/jrmrl ]Feb 20 18:22
cubexyzone time I asked for a laptop with all replaceable parts, and the guy just laughed at meFeb 20 18:22
cubexyzbuy two :)Feb 20 18:22
XRevan86cubexyz: One can dream…Feb 20 18:22
MinceRone can replace the laptop with another laptop :>Feb 20 18:23
XRevan86Laptops look like a complete freedom on a tablet/smartphone background.Feb 20 18:24
cubexyzI fix laptopsFeb 20 18:24
cubexyzso far I can say Dell Dimension laptops suck :)Feb 20 18:24
XRevan86cubexyz: Maybe it's awesome only in fifth dimention.Feb 20 18:25
cubexyzhahaFeb 20 18:25
XRevan86you just can't see that, you, three-dimentional peasantFeb 20 18:25
cubexyzI ran out of lettersFeb 20 18:25
MinceRi can say everything from dHell sucksFeb 20 18:25
XRevan86Maybe fifth dimention is hell, that would explain that.Feb 20 18:26
cubexyzI'm not sure things are improving on the repair frontFeb 20 18:27
cubexyzprobably it's getting worseFeb 20 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Creating Forms for Easy LibreOffice DatabaseFeb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Entry on Linux http://t.co/fRMCLO2IVIFeb 20 19:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Creating Forms for Easy LibreOffice Database Entry on Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/eCXI5VRZzQFeb 20 19:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Enterprise Software Giants Live In An OpenFeb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Source World http://t.co/ZrhFjQp01SFeb 20 19:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Enterprise Software Giants Live In An Open Source World | Tux MachinesFeb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Untangling the intense politics behind Node.jsFeb 20 19:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js | Tux MachinesFeb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support,Feb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Fixes 71 Bugs http://t.co/SLKzdgDwiUFeb 20 19:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support, Fixes 71 Bugs | Tux MachinesFeb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPUFeb 20 19:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Driver Code http://t.co/vGR0g0DiCDFeb 20 19:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU Driver Code | Tux MachinesFeb 20 19:07
*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21'Feb 20 19:07
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MinceRhttp://www.whatdoesitmean.com/zzo1.pngFeb 20 19:14
msbMinceR: Good one!Feb 20 19:48
__martin__+1 shared furtherFeb 20 20:11
__martin__on BBSFeb 20 20:11
schestowitz+1Feb 20 20:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Demand for Linux developers on the riseFeb 20 20:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Demand for Linux developers on the rise | Tux MachinesFeb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-based desktops work despite Windows appFeb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines                 prevalence http://t.co/qKveZLOE2PFeb 20 20:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app prevalence | Tux MachinesFeb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GDB 7.9 released http://t.co/YaOg5bMSXGFeb 20 20:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GDB 7.9 released | Tux MachinesFeb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims forFeb 20 20:25
TweetTuxMachines                 mobile developers http://t.co/ljVLbAmAkXFeb 20 20:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims for mobile developers | Tux MachinesFeb 20 20:25
MinceRhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235Feb 20 20:33
MinceRKDE is dying.Feb 20 20:33
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to theFeb 20 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 space station http://t.co/6SJZxFSpMBFeb 20 20:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the space station | Tux MachinesFeb 20 20:38
*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims for...'Feb 20 20:38
__martin__MinceR: atm @ fedora 21 / just curious, selinux+systemd, can you link me any in-depth audit, or I shall trust devs from Brno city?Feb 20 20:41
__martin__schestowitz: so roy, how many sim cards in total within household? gave mine in dec; introduced girl to textsecure, redphone, tox.imFeb 20 20:43
__martin__(pgp/gpg ain't noob-proof yet; nor router flashing)Feb 20 20:43
__martin__gave up*Feb 20 20:44
MinceR__martin__: huh?Feb 20 20:45
MinceRi don't trust fedora anymoreFeb 20 20:45
__martin__well my old HW needs radeon blobs soFeb 20 20:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5631763Feb 20 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So much #superfish blame thrown at #lenovo without pointing out #gnu #linux or #freesw as a way out of this kind of abuseFeb 20 20:53
schestowitz"I'm sitting this one out. I just get tired of telling people the same shit over and over, and hearing the same old excuses in response."Feb 20 20:53
schestowitz__martin__: at least proved you rightFeb 20 20:53
cubexyzdozerland can't get much worse I think :)Feb 20 20:55
schestowitzMinceR: http://m.forums.theregister.co.uk/post/reply/2375127Feb 20 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.forums.theregister.co.uk | Reply to post • Re: If systemd is so bad... • The Register Forums [ http://ur1.ca/jrns9 ]Feb 20 20:57
cubexyzwhen everyone always talks about excel when they really mean spreadsheet, or assume it's ipconfig rather than ifconfig (despite the fact that the Unix world invented ifconfig in 1982)Feb 20 20:57
cubexyznot to mention the death-grip the OEMs seem to be inFeb 20 20:58
cubexyzblame the schoolsFeb 20 20:59
cubexyzthat's where it all startsFeb 20 21:00
cubexyzeverything was mostly copied from DECFeb 20 21:02
cubexyzRT11, copied by Kildall to make CP/MFeb 20 21:02
schestowitz> http://yle.fi/uutiset/coding_soon_to_be_part_of_finnish_schoolchildrens_core_curriculum/7818567Feb 20 21:02
schestowitz> Feb 20 21:02
schestowitz> :\Feb 20 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | Coding soon to be part of Finnish schoolchildren’s core curriculum | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/jrntj ]Feb 20 21:02
schestowitzIs Microsoft involved or just the minister connected to microsoft? Feb 20 21:02
TweetTuxMachines@linmagazine     #Sympleתחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותיFeb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 לסביבה #אובונטו $89 בלבד http://t.co/Xnv53UcIFwFeb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (linmagazine.co.il) דרך @tuxmachines #eWasteFeb 20 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linmagazine.co.il | Symple: תחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותי לסביבה עם אובונטו: $89 בלבד | לינמגזיןFeb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gmThvBgirrFeb 20 21:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linmagazine: #Sympleתחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותי לסביבה #אובונטו $89 בלבד http://t.co/Xnv53UcIFw דרך @tuxmachines #eWaste http://t.co/gmThvBgirrFeb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As DefaultFeb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid VervetFeb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ljLrDrzGGE (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 21:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet | Tux MachinesFeb 20 21:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become theFeb 20 21:08
TweetTuxMachines                 coolest Android phone ever?Feb 20 21:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4xZSijPMgQ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 21:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the coolest Android phone ever? | Tux MachinesFeb 20 21:08
cubexyzhttp://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/08/10/0047256/finlands-upper-secondary-school-exams-going-all-linux Feb 20 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.slashdot.org | Finland's Upper Secondary School Exams Going All-Linux - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jrnwq ]Feb 20 21:15
MinceRhttp://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-20-at-1.43.43-PM-1024x559.jpgFeb 20 21:19
MinceR(also a slogan for systemd)Feb 20 21:19
cubexyzthere are alternatives to systemd :)Feb 20 21:20
MinceRand the cult is working on making everything dependent on itFeb 20 21:20
MinceRtheir goal being no choice for youFeb 20 21:20
cubexyzwell they can try but it won't work Feb 20 21:21
cubexyzicewm doesn't use systemd, I checkedFeb 20 21:21
MinceRyetFeb 20 21:21
__martin__schestowitz: thanks, I had a minor conversation with fauno, the philosopher of parabola.nu project; it's in people's neural pathways, pre-learned contexts, proprietary soft is an invisible layerFeb 20 21:22
__martin__yesFeb 20 21:22
__martin__commodity logic, he saidFeb 20 21:23
__martin__pathethic, head of mine faculty giving out free vi$ta8 tablets to excellent understand the most indoctrinated studentsFeb 20 21:24
__martin__or faplets for the most of themFeb 20 21:24
__martin__at least the college's library heard of openaccessFeb 20 21:25
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__martin__infopanels @ campus powered by XP [sic] ... fourteen y'ol OSFeb 20 21:27
cubexyzI can solve the OS problem :)Feb 20 21:27
__martin__better to say, not old but vulnerableFeb 20 21:27
__martin__xDFeb 20 21:27
cubexyzhttp://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-828-operating-system-engineering-fall-2012/Feb 20 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ocw.mit.edu | Operating System Engineering | Electrical Engineering and Computer Science | MIT OpenCourseWare [ http://ur1.ca/jro05 ]Feb 20 21:28
__martin__any of you guys already alienated close frieds, family relatives with refusing proprietary stuff?Feb 20 21:28
cubexyzof course notFeb 20 21:29
MinceRnoFeb 20 21:29
cubexyzwell maybe one friend who is a total microsoft fanboy but we're still friends Feb 20 21:29
cubexyzwe just don't talk about the whole microsoft thingFeb 20 21:29
cubexyzanyways, MIT uses xv6 a lotFeb 20 21:30
cubexyzMIT folks are often ahead of the curve anywaysFeb 20 21:32
cubexyzMIT, Berkeley... they know the scoreFeb 20 21:33
__martin__last summer i was in one flat not further than thirty kilometres from ukraine borders which had a settopbox from deutche telekom's subsidiary company and it was rolling on the magnetic HDD and fans on any occasion of verbal commuication within that living room Feb 20 21:33
__martin__pretty scaryFeb 20 21:33
__martin__complete black box, as wells as their routers for optical line.. never heard of anyone flashing openwrt on that piece of hwFeb 20 21:34
__martin__well*Feb 20 21:34
cubexyzhexedit the firmware and have a lookFeb 20 21:35
__martin__later on in early autumn i demonstrated OTR functionallity of pidgin some three kilometres +- from a military airport where u.s. jets are welcome all the timeFeb 20 21:39
__martin__last friday in a club i asked a policeman out of duty regards their treatment of chronic filesharers like meFeb 20 21:40
__martin__at least he was honest, said he just wanna reach his pension and not give a damnFeb 20 21:40
__martin__xDFeb 20 21:40
cubexyznot too many people understand all their firmwareFeb 20 21:42
MinceRmaybe only the amish do :>Feb 20 21:42
__martin__;DFeb 20 21:42
cubexyzmost routers were VXworks or linuxFeb 20 21:46
__martin__tbh, with RMS way of life for three months, am lucky no one called ambulance for me and detached me into rehabFeb 20 21:48
__martin__parents = ??? // thou i printed 'em out snowden doc and short report in their native langFeb 20 21:48
__martin__regards sim cardsFeb 20 21:49
cubexyzit's hard work reverse engineering firmware with no source codeFeb 20 21:53
__martin__so far worst dilemma are CCTVs in a village where father ran for a mayor; he has fb account, uses cracked win7 box and did not took me seriously when i gifted him for his b-day with FSF's e-mail self-defense guideFeb 20 21:54
__martin__with all this i just wanted to demostrate how far into one's life can technology goFeb 20 21:55
__martin__not sure for how much longer i could handle this hermit stance from othersFeb 20 21:55
__martin__thou i hope mr. joseph snow will push some more stuff sooner rather than laterFeb 20 21:56
__martin__</end_rant>Feb 20 21:56
__martin__such an oxymoron; in order to get free thoughts am going from time to time into a barbed-wire fenced reservation for deer and stuff, because disrespecting this private property brings me more freedom than walking the streets under cctv managed in the end within father's reachFeb 20 22:27
__martin__goshFeb 20 22:27
MinceRwhich country is that?Feb 20 22:30
__martin__the best thing is ofc anyways messing into overcrowded human areas where you forget the orwell's animal farm story with time passing byFeb 20 22:30
__martin__MinceR: post-soviet slovakia, near european surveillance hub.. austria (vienn)Feb 20 22:31
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scientesi'm so tired of softwareFeb 20 23:02
MinceRwelcome to the clubFeb 20 23:03
__martin__+1Feb 20 23:03
scientesecho "linux" | cpp -E -Feb 20 23:04
scientes^^what a load of crapFeb 20 23:05
scientesthis is 2015 and I still can't name my variable "linux" or "unix"Feb 20 23:06
MinceRthere's a macro by that name that has a value of 1, apparentlyFeb 20 23:09
scientesits part of cppFeb 20 23:09
scientesits even documentedFeb 20 23:09
MinceRprobably so that c programs will know they're being built on/for linux and unixFeb 20 23:09
scientesthere is __linux__ for thatFeb 20 23:09
MinceRindeedFeb 20 23:10
MinceRi wonder why there are these undecorated versionsFeb 20 23:10
scientesthe cause me confusing bugsFeb 20 23:10
MinceRwhat's the purpose of a variable called that, though?Feb 20 23:12
cubexyzI don't think you can name an executable 'test' eitherFeb 20 23:12
MinceRi'm pretty sure you can, as there already is such an executable :>Feb 20 23:13
MinceRdoesn't make much sense to name another the same way, thoughFeb 20 23:13
cubexyzI think ld would complainFeb 20 23:13
cubexyzoh wait a secFeb 20 23:13
cubexyzI might have a directory testFeb 20 23:14
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cubexyzso it wouldn't try to overwrite the directory :)Feb 20 23:14
cubexyzI remember one guy overwrote his wp.com file because his filename was wp.com Feb 20 23:15
cubexyzevery system has these types of thingsFeb 20 23:15
cubexyzin the olden days there was stroppingFeb 20 23:19
cubexyzbtw, if you were to use int linux; in unix v5 cc it would work :)Feb 20 23:27
cubexyzMinceR, you might find this interesting:Feb 20 23:39
cubexyzhttp://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/Feb 20 23:39
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cubexyzthat's Jessie of courseFeb 20 23:40
cubexyzwheezy shouldn't be as difficultFeb 20 23:40
MinceRi've looked itFeb 20 23:42
MinceRhis related post on debian-user (?) was more interesting, though :)Feb 20 23:42
cubexyzyou have a link for that?Feb 20 23:44
MinceRhttps://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.htmlFeb 20 23:48
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cubexyzok, Luke Leighton is a bit pessimistic here... but since he used Debian as his main distro I can see his concernFeb 20 23:53
cubexyzthere is no way are all the linux distros using systemd Feb 20 23:54
cubexyzs/are/that/Feb 20 23:54
MinceRit might happenFeb 20 23:54
MinceRconsidering what kde is doing, for exampleFeb 20 23:54
cubexyzno way... I'll make my own distro first :)Feb 20 23:54
MinceRsure, but what applications will be in it?Feb 20 23:54
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cubexyzwell anything I want... firefox, fbreader, etcFeb 20 23:55
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MinceRthey might even get the bsd-sFeb 20 23:55
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MinceRwho knows, maybe red hat will kill gnu and linux before 2038Feb 20 23:56
MinceRmaybe that's the planFeb 20 23:56
cubexyzalso there is no way in hell AIX or HP-UX will use systemdFeb 20 23:56
MinceRpoisoning the wellFeb 20 23:56
cubexyzthere will be forks probablyFeb 20 23:56
MinceRbut who will write/port applications to them?Feb 20 23:57
cubexyzas long as you have the toolchain... anyone can do thatFeb 20 23:57
cubexyzI still write PDP-11 code Feb 20 23:58
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cubexyzalso the Motif guys :)Feb 20 23:58
MinceRsure, but can you keep patching secholes in an entire distro?Feb 20 23:58
cubexyzthe old farts will not write systemd codeFeb 20 23:58
scientesits systemd/linux nowFeb 20 23:59
scientesand android/linuxFeb 20 23:59
cubexyzMinceR, I do that already remember?Feb 20 23:59
cubexyzFC1Feb 20 23:59
scientesi write systemd codeFeb 20 23:59
scientesit mostly sucks, but i doFeb 20 23:59
cubexyzok, well of course some people doFeb 20 23:59
MinceRof course it sucks, it's fedoraFeb 20 23:59
cubexyzespecially Red Hat peopleFeb 20 23:59
scientesummm, systemd is used by every gnu/linux distro nowFeb 21 00:00
scientesits only android thats differn'tFeb 21 00:00
cubexyzummm noFeb 21 00:00
MinceRnot everyFeb 21 00:00
scientesyesFeb 21 00:00
cubexyzslackware does notFeb 21 00:00
scientesevery oneFeb 21 00:00
MinceRslackware and its derivatives don't use itFeb 21 00:00
scienteswho caresFeb 21 00:00
MinceRgentoo supports it but uses openrc by defaultFeb 21 00:00
scientesagain who caresFeb 21 00:00
scientesits all systemd nowFeb 21 00:00
MinceRof course this won't help if all the application developers force systemdFeb 21 00:00
scientesnow that ubuntu switchedFeb 21 00:00
MinceRwho cares about ubuntuFeb 21 00:00
scientesand gnome will be nextFeb 21 00:00
scientesyou can't use gnome without systemdFeb 21 00:01
MinceRthe gnome people did the whole thingFeb 21 00:01
cubexyzrightFeb 21 00:01
scientesfor good reasonFeb 21 00:01
cubexyzthat's why there is ten billion other window managersFeb 21 00:01
scientessystemd is awesomeFeb 21 00:01
MinceRi don't miss gnome or kde, but they'll eventually start taking useful stuff away tooFeb 21 00:01
*scientes loves gnome 2Feb 21 00:01
scientes*gnome 3Feb 21 00:01
scientesi don't like gnome 2Feb 21 00:02
MinceRwayland is another fuckupFeb 21 00:02
scientesno it isn't Feb 21 00:02
MinceRit's windows for gnu/linuxFeb 21 00:02
MinceRall that's missing is moving the windowing system into the kernelFeb 21 00:02
MinceRonly it's even more retarded than winblowsFeb 21 00:02
MinceRwinblows at least had pointer capture/warp functionalityFeb 21 00:02
MinceRwayland omits that from the protocolFeb 21 00:03
MinceRand the wayland people are in love with client side decorationsFeb 21 00:03
cubexyztons of distros do not use systemdFeb 21 00:03
cubexyzthere's dozensFeb 21 00:03
MinceRit worked out great in windowsFeb 21 00:03
scientesbut there is less than a dozen distros that matterFeb 21 00:03
scientesMinceR, wayland fixes the huge security problems of XFeb 21 00:04
MinceRyes, and it also fixes the functionality of XFeb 21 00:04
scientesexcept noone uses that fu nctionality anymoreFeb 21 00:04
MinceRexcept plenty of people doFeb 21 00:04
scientesif you are talking about 1980s drawing primitivesFeb 21 00:04
MinceRi'm talking about pointer capture/warp and proper window managersFeb 21 00:05
cubexyzhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributionsFeb 21 00:05
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MinceRx2x, x2vnc and synergy relies on the former twoFeb 21 00:05
MinceRand so do fps gamesFeb 21 00:05
scientessystemd won guys, get over itFeb 21 00:05
MinceRwe'll seeFeb 21 00:06
scienteswayland is nextFeb 21 00:06
scienteslinus torvalds already said systemd wonFeb 21 00:06
cubexyzyou're clueless scientes Feb 21 00:06
MinceRwe'll also see if red hat and crApple also manage to kill *bsdFeb 21 00:06
cubexyzyou think IBM will use systemd? :)Feb 21 00:06
scientesyesFeb 21 00:06
MinceRi think there won't be an IBMFeb 21 00:06
cubexyzI think notFeb 21 00:06
scientesintel is heavily developing systemdFeb 21 00:06
scientesIBM will always be aroundFeb 21 00:06
scientesthey run so much of the economyFeb 21 00:07
scienteslike Wal-MartFeb 21 00:07
MinceRthey've already sold most of the companyFeb 21 00:07
scientesand euro-flight controlFeb 21 00:07
cubexyzit's just userland stuff, anyone can do whatever they wantFeb 21 00:09
MinceRalso, kde does some horrible hack with input to work around wayland's deficiency regarding pointer warpFeb 21 00:10
cubexyzthere's slack/390 for that matterFeb 21 00:10
MinceRbut apparently horrible hacks are cool nowFeb 21 00:10
scientesMinceR, are you aware of how X11 support compositing window managers?Feb 21 00:11
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scientesits a GIANT hackFeb 21 00:11
MinceRi am aware of itFeb 21 00:11
MinceRand i'm not using a compositing window managerFeb 21 00:12
MinceRand it's still not as much of a hack as what i mentioned aboveFeb 21 00:12
MinceRbut apparently the wayland way of fixing things is breaking them even more, and then not fixing anythingFeb 21 00:12
cubexyzsorry, but the Unix traditionalists won't switch to systemd Feb 21 00:15
cubexyzyou'll just see a mass exodus to alternative systemsFeb 21 00:16
scientesexcept systemd is more unix than what came before itFeb 21 00:18
scientesit supports multiseat for exampleFeb 21 00:18
cubexyzyou're just trollingFeb 21 00:18
scientesand now we finially have a proper IPC with kdbusFeb 21 00:18
MinceRmultiseat is a lame excuse to force systemd on us, and it doesn't even workFeb 21 00:18
scienteswhatever, are you contributing?Feb 21 00:18
scientesthen shut upFeb 21 00:18
MinceRno, you shut upFeb 21 00:18
cubexyzfuck off loser :)Feb 21 00:18
scientesthose that do the work make the decisionsFeb 21 00:18
__martin__lmaoFeb 21 00:18
scientesthats just the way it worksFeb 21 00:19
cubexyzyou don't even know meFeb 21 00:19
scientestrueFeb 21 00:19
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cubexyzI just released a new Unix v5 a week agoFeb 21 00:19
scientessry for being an assFeb 21 00:19
cubexyzyou're lucky I'm not Sokolov, he would have kicked youFeb 21 00:21
cubexyzbut whatever, everyone has an opinionFeb 21 00:21
scientesi was programming but i got frustratedFeb 21 00:23
scienteswith the #define linux thingFeb 21 00:23
cubexyzoh thatFeb 21 00:23
MinceRhave you tried #undef linux? :>Feb 21 00:23
cubexyzguys, I feel I should point out that there's lots of architectures out thereFeb 21 00:24
cubexyzwe are not all x86 Feb 21 00:24
scientesI was developing systemd on ARM for a whileFeb 21 00:24
MinceRindeed, i'm typing this on armv6 :>Feb 21 00:24
scientesarmv7Feb 21 00:24
scientesand i fixed the gold linker on armv5Feb 21 00:24
cubexyzif you like systemd fine, but don't shove it out everyone's throatFeb 21 00:25
cubexyzsome of us use Vax and PDP-11Feb 21 00:25
MinceRwhat i don't get is why don't the systemd/wayland crowd just shut up and use windows alreadyFeb 21 00:25
MinceRit's "designed" around the principles they apparently love so muchFeb 21 00:25
scientesMinceR, what is wrong with kdbus?Feb 21 00:25
MinceRit doesn't belong in the kernelFeb 21 00:25
MinceRit worked as fine as it ever will in userspaceFeb 21 00:26
scientesevery other os has an in-kernel IPCFeb 21 00:26
MinceRso does gnu/linuxFeb 21 00:26
scientesnot trueFeb 21 00:26
MinceRseveralFeb 21 00:26
scientesnow it is zero-copyFeb 21 00:26
MinceRunix domain sockets, mutexes, semaphoresFeb 21 00:26
MinceRshared memoryFeb 21 00:26
scientesbut shared memory is insecureFeb 21 00:26
scientesthe new memfd stuff makes shared memory secureFeb 21 00:26
MinceRgood thing the crap poettering codes up is secureFeb 21 00:27
MinceRoh waitFeb 21 00:27
MinceRsystemd is full of holesFeb 21 00:27
scientesI was amazed that we havn't had an unaligned memory access bug yetFeb 21 00:27
MinceRwith these people at the wheel, we willFeb 21 00:27
MinceRjust like now we have null pointer dereferences in pid1Feb 21 00:28
scientesthats trueFeb 21 00:28
scientespid 1 does a hell of alotFeb 21 00:28
scientesits over a megabyteFeb 21 00:28
MinceRand while they're trying to force dbus into the kernel, they'll take VT support out of the kernelFeb 21 00:28
scientesyepFeb 21 00:28
scientesbut that wont be in pid 1Feb 21 00:29
MinceRwhich will probably make it more difficult to recover from issuesFeb 21 00:29
scientesbut the reasons for it are soundFeb 21 00:29
MinceRapparently the main principle is "let's make it shittier"Feb 21 00:29
scientesa pid 1 crash doesn't crash the system thoughFeb 21 00:29
MinceRi doubt they'll do it in a way that will be worth itFeb 21 00:29
scientesso you will see be able to debug after pid 1 crashesFeb 21 00:29
MinceRi'd rather not have pid1 crash, and fix/restart the service that didFeb 21 00:30
MinceRkdbus is already said to depend on systemdFeb 21 00:30
scientesi've never had it crash when i wasn't hacking itFeb 21 00:30
MinceRso poettering finally gets what he wants: linux depending on systemdFeb 21 00:30
scienteskdbus does depend on systemdFeb 21 00:30
MinceRso much for not breaking userspaceFeb 21 00:31
scientesAFAIKFeb 21 00:31
cubexyzyou're forgetting that anyone can go back and just use an older versionFeb 21 00:31
MinceRyes, and deal with a growing list of known vulnerabilitiesFeb 21 00:31
MinceRwhile these retards work on introducing more of them in the newest versionsFeb 21 00:31
cubexyzsome Nuclear Power stations use PDP-11'sFeb 21 00:31
cubexyzbecause they know it inside and outFeb 21 00:32
MinceRand probably because they don't want a meltdown because poettering had a bad dayFeb 21 00:32
cubexyzthere is no XFeb 21 00:32
cubexyzit'Feb 21 00:32
MinceRwhy, is there X for PDP-11? :>Feb 21 00:32
cubexyzfor Vax yesFeb 21 00:33
cubexyznot PDP-11Feb 21 00:33
cubexyzat least I've never seen itFeb 21 00:33
__martin__gnome os aka linuxd/minwin concerns are legitimate, thou useds live in sandboxed chrome fog these days soon to be cyanogen/minwinFeb 21 00:34
cubexyzX version 6 was microvax... there was never a PDP-11 XFeb 21 00:34
cubexyzIBM RT alsoFeb 21 00:34
cubexyzthat was all started by MIT, DEC and IBMFeb 21 00:35
cubexyzif you know your historyFeb 21 00:35
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cubexyznow some really smart folks ran Plan 9 but it's a research OSFeb 21 00:36
MinceRmaybe i will tooFeb 21 00:37
MinceRif they manage to kill unixFeb 21 00:37
cubexyzit was better in a lot of ways, but it doesn't support new hardware too wellFeb 21 00:37
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cubexyzif you want traditional then run quasijarus OR run one of the BSDs like FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSDFeb 21 00:38
MinceRafaict freebsd is running a high risk of turning into freeosxFeb 21 00:38
MinceRwith launchd and other crApple crapFeb 21 00:39
scientesthere was a suggestion that freebsd adopt systemdFeb 21 00:39
cubexyzthere is no way Theo will use systemd :)Feb 21 00:39
scientesby one of the core developersFeb 21 00:39
MinceRand if all the applications start depending on systemd, even netbsd and openbsd will likely start using systemd shims or forksFeb 21 00:39
cubexyzok, well that's why there are forks, so everyone gets what they wantFeb 21 00:39
cubexyzI happen to like quasijarus but I run Linux tooFeb 21 00:40
MinceRno, it might well be that only the people who want gratis windows will get what they wantFeb 21 00:40
MinceRand we get to start struggling with driver support all over again, from zeroFeb 21 00:40
cubexyzwell MinceR what do you suggest?Feb 21 00:40
MinceRi have no ideaFeb 21 00:41
cubexyzI can run quasijarus and fix bugs so I'm happyFeb 21 00:41
MinceRi never knew what to do with stupid humans (which are the vast majority)Feb 21 00:41
cubexyzI don't have to use every new fangled thing that people come up withFeb 21 00:41
cubexyzof course there are disagreementsFeb 21 00:42
MinceRdoes quasijarus run on anything other than vax?Feb 21 00:42
cubexyzI don't go around telling people what to use, use whatever you wantFeb 21 00:42
cubexyzit was ported to HP9000 I thinkFeb 21 00:43
MinceRi don't have any of thoseFeb 21 00:43
cubexyzUnisys 7000Feb 21 00:43
MinceRjust pc-s, arm machines and a zx spectrumFeb 21 00:44
cubexyzprobably other ones I don't remember what happened after 4.3BSD Feb 21 00:44
cubexyzmicrovax is cheap to getFeb 21 00:44
cubexyzthe average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too bigFeb 21 00:45
cubexyzthe only way you will learn that stuff is if you go back into the past and learn the older versionsFeb 21 00:45
scientes<cubexyz> the average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too bigFeb 21 00:46
scientesexactlyFeb 21 00:46
cubexyzthere is FPGA if you want PDP-11 for modern hardwareFeb 21 00:46
cubexyzsome very interesting projectsFeb 21 00:46
scientesthats why it is being replaced by opengl+waylandFeb 21 00:46
scientesand since opengl fucked up on opengl3 perhaps DX11 tooFeb 21 00:46
scientesI just remember that i read the announcement of systemd and went "holy shit that makes sense!"Feb 21 00:48
scientesafter having experienced the stupidity that is upstartFeb 21 00:48
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MinceRreplacing x might be a good idea, just not with a retarded replacementFeb 21 00:58
MinceRas for DX11, that will never workFeb 21 00:58
MinceRnot only is it only supported on winblows, it's also controlled by m$Feb 21 00:59
cubexyzjust make a Xtiny or Xlight thenFeb 21 00:59
cubexyzit's been done beforeFeb 21 00:59
MinceRtrying to implement a spec m$ controls is _not_ a good ideaFeb 21 00:59
cubexyzXvesa I think was smallFeb 21 00:59
MinceRand yes, upstart was stupid tooFeb 21 00:59
MinceRwith its signal abuseFeb 21 00:59
MinceRbut there are plenty of sane init systems aroundFeb 21 00:59
scientesMinceR, they only did it cause the company that controls opengl bailed on their promise of a modern apiFeb 21 00:59
scientesKronosFeb 21 00:59
scienteslike systemdFeb 21 01:00
MinceRsystemd is supposed to be a "modern api"?Feb 21 01:00
scientesi was talking about DX11Feb 21 01:00
MinceRno, systemd is not saneFeb 21 01:00
MinceRits scope is sprawling, it's overly complex and it puts a lot of shoddy code in pid1Feb 21 01:00
scienteswhat is so horrible about it?Feb 21 01:00
MinceRand it's designed to be impossible to replaceFeb 21 01:01
MinceRoh, and to be non-portableFeb 21 01:01
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL#Longs_Peak_and_OpenGL_3.0_controversyFeb 21 01:01
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MinceRif sysvinit was designed like systemd, it would be impossible to replace sysvinit with systemdFeb 21 01:01
scientesbut software portability isn't the big thing, hardware portability isFeb 21 01:02
MinceRthe average programmer can't know all of systemdFeb 21 01:02
scientesand systemd should work on any 32-bit processor with a MMUFeb 21 01:02
MinceRmaybe it isn't to youFeb 21 01:02
MinceRbut of course, systemd fans don't recognize any use cases outside their ownFeb 21 01:02
cubexyzsome folks still use RT-11 for that matterFeb 21 01:03
MinceRthey're stuck in their little bubble of windows and macos running on pcFeb 21 01:03
cubexyzthey don't even need a multi-user OSFeb 21 01:03
cubexyzRTOS for stuff that has to be responsiveFeb 21 01:05
scienteshere is something crazy: I was contemplating a multi-threaded pid 1Feb 21 01:05
MinceRhere's something less crazy: run the minimum amount of code needed in pid1Feb 21 01:12
cubexyzthat would be Unix v7 or beforeFeb 21 01:12
cubexyzcompletely easy to understand tooFeb 21 01:12
MinceReven this could suffice:Feb 21 01:13
MinceRint main(void) { if (fork()) while (1) wait(NULL); else execl("/etc/rc", "rc", NULL); }Feb 21 01:13
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cubexyzI said it before... write MincerOS :)Feb 21 01:13
MinceRmaybe that will be my new hobbyFeb 21 01:13
MinceR(that oneliner wasn't written by me, btw)Feb 21 01:14
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/original-unix-v5-init.c.txtFeb 21 01:14
cubexyzyou still need a way to go back and forth from single to multi-user modeFeb 21 01:15
cubexyzand update wtmp of courseFeb 21 01:16
MinceRthe service manager can handle the runlevel-like stuffFeb 21 01:16
MinceRwhich would be started by /etc/rcFeb 21 01:17
cubexyzwell, maybe you would do things differently from ThompsonFeb 21 01:17
MinceRi'm not sure how wtmp worksFeb 21 01:17
cubexyzit's just a binary file used by acFeb 21 01:17
cubexyzmaybe new Linux doesn't have that nowdaysFeb 21 01:18
cubexyzkeeps track of user's connection timeFeb 21 01:18
MinceRlooks like wtmp doesn't need to be handled in pid1 eitherFeb 21 01:18
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cubexyzit also reads /etc/getty to know how many init processes to spawnFeb 21 01:20
MinceRwhich could be done by the service managerFeb 21 01:21
MinceRsomething like runit, perhapsFeb 21 01:21
MinceRgnFeb 21 01:21
*scientes thinks using a DAG for system services makes things less painfulFeb 21 01:21
scientesand that anything else is insaneFeb 21 01:22
cubexyzor rather reads /etc/ttysFeb 21 01:22
MinceReven a DAG doesn't have to be implemented in pid1Feb 21 01:22
MinceRand also doesn't need a DNS proxy built inFeb 21 01:22
MinceRor a uefi bootloaderFeb 21 01:22
scientesgummiboot is not part of systemdFeb 21 01:22
MinceRit is now!Feb 21 01:22
scientesits just developed by Kay SieversFeb 21 01:23
scientesand the patch i am working on right now does bring in it's BootLoaderSpecFeb 21 01:23
scientesfor kexecFeb 21 01:23
MinceRhere's a little article to read for alleged software developers who believe systemd is well designed >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_%28computer_science%29Feb 21 01:23
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cubexyzit's not hard to improve upon the status quoFeb 21 01:24
MinceRof course, any proper software engineering course includes discussion of cohesionFeb 21 01:24
MinceRbut apparently nobody at red hat finished such a courseFeb 21 01:24
cubexyzreduced module complexity, that describes early UnixFeb 21 01:25
cubexyzthat's why the MIT OS design course uses a modernized Unix v6Feb 21 01:26
MinceRnot shoving unrelated stuff into modules, i think that describes unix tooFeb 21 01:26
MinceRrather, not shoving unrelated stuff into the same module, i think that describes unix tooFeb 21 01:26
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cubexyzactually Kernighan and Pike criticized 4.2BSD and System VFeb 21 01:28
cubexyzin their opinion, 4.2BSD was already a departure from true UnixFeb 21 01:29
MinceRnot as much as Lendows isFeb 21 01:29
scienteslolFeb 21 01:29
scientesthe true unix: "return 0"Feb 21 01:29
scientesoh "return 0;"Feb 21 01:30
MinceRthat would be /bin/trueFeb 21 01:30
scientesno then you violate SCO's copyright claims on unixFeb 21 01:30
cubexyzI talked to Mcllroy about it... but what are you going to do?Feb 21 01:30
MinceRi thought SCO's alleged claims have been dismissed ages agoFeb 21 01:30
scientesyou have to make it a c programFeb 21 01:30
MinceReven m$ seemed to give up on handing another bucket of money to SCO to warm up the FUDFeb 21 01:31
scientessystemd doesn't really use coreutilsFeb 21 01:31
MinceRof courseFeb 21 01:31
cubexyzLinux is (quoting) "in a disheartening state of obesity"Feb 21 01:31
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MinceRsystemd doesn't really use anything, except the kernel, but they're working on getting rid of the kernel tooFeb 21 01:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mac Asay against convergenceFeb 21 01:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/drdJTmuoGv (www.techrepublic.com)Feb 21 01:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why you should consider cloud-hosted LinuxFeb 21 01:31
TweetTuxMachines                 desktops http://t.co/UnLaErODD0Feb 21 01:31
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scientes"cloud"Feb 21 01:31
scienteswhat the fuck does "cloud" mean anyways?Feb 21 01:32
scienteswhat a load of marketing gibberishFeb 21 01:32
MinceRit means "just hand your data and code over to us and everything will be fine, trust us"Feb 21 01:32
MinceRmac asay should have waited with the United Linux thing, it may yet happen in the form of LendowsFeb 21 01:33
MinceRit won't be worth using of course, but it will beFeb 21 01:33
MinceRit will exist, for a whileFeb 21 01:33
cubexyzthere's no united anything thoughFeb 21 01:33
scientessystemd is unifying linuxFeb 21 01:33
MinceRunited in the quest for the useless shinyFeb 21 01:33
MinceRunited in idiocracyFeb 21 01:34
scientesit brings the linux development model to userspaceFeb 21 01:34
scientesnow we just need subsystemd maintainersFeb 21 01:34
MinceRwell, at least we'll know if the kernel is this crap tooFeb 21 01:34
MinceRalso, a while ago torvalds said that linux didn't break userspaceFeb 21 01:35
MinceRsystemd never followed thatFeb 21 01:35
MinceRthough they did say they won't break udev for non-systemd casesFeb 21 01:36
MinceR(a lie, of course)Feb 21 01:36
scienteshttp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InterfaceStabilityPromise/Feb 21 01:36
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MinceRnot the same thingFeb 21 01:36
scienteslol libwrap is goneFeb 21 01:37
scientesand that mentions libwraFeb 21 01:37
MinceRpromises made by the cancerd cult aren't worth the bits they're written onFeb 21 01:37
scientespid 1 is 1.4 MiBFeb 21 01:38
scientesits hugeFeb 21 01:38
MinceR1.4 MiB of null pointer dereferences and remote holes?Feb 21 01:39
scientessz == 8 || (value < (1ULL << (sz*8)))Feb 21 01:40
scienteswhy does it have that string in the binary?Feb 21 01:40
MinceRi have no idea, maybe it's an assert or somethingFeb 21 01:41
scientesyeah but that would be compiledFeb 21 01:41
scientesperhaps thats the way assert gets compiledFeb 21 01:41
MinceRsure, but it prints an error message with the expressionFeb 21 01:41
MinceRiircFeb 21 01:41
scientesahh yesFeb 21 01:41
scienteslol http://paste.debian.net/153527/Feb 21 01:42
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DaemonFC"I'm infuriated, I'm angry," San Francisco Recreation & Park Department General Manager Phil Ginsburg told KTVU Tuesday. "Over the weekend, some idiots broke into the construction site and did about $100,000 worth of damage."Feb 21 01:49
DaemonFCGinsburg said intruders stole a construction cart, hotwired it and did donuts on a newly sodded field, damaging a new irrigation system.Feb 21 01:49
DaemonFCVandals also tagged the cement roof of the park's new storage facility and even lit a campfire in a corner of that facility to roast s'mores, leaving behind marshmallows, chocolate and graham crackers.Feb 21 01:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Studio v1.1 hits the stable channelFeb 21 01:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 20/2/2015: Android Studio v1.1, GDB 7.9Feb 21 01:50
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TweetTuxMachines                 right now http://t.co/msioGT0uu2Feb 21 01:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Demand for Linux developers on the riseFeb 21 01:54
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msbI'm not totally up on this stuff, but it seems to me the main problem with eliminating systemd is the apps that use it.  An init system, udev, etc., can be done as it is today.  So how do apps use systemd?  And can they be satisfied with a fairly simple systemd-shim (which will not run in PID1 of course).  Is there an explanation somewhere of exactly what the current systemd-shim does?Feb 21 06:31
cubexyzone doesn't need to eliminate any appsFeb 21 06:32
cubexyzI'll just use wheezy, or slackware, or one of the BSDsFeb 21 06:33
cubexyzor something derived from wheezy, or something derived from slackwareFeb 21 06:33
msbI don't want to eliminate any apps.  I want the up-to-date apps, that use systemd, to be able to run without it.  Feb 21 06:33
cubexyzthe display manager maybeFeb 21 06:39
msbWiki says that slackware has no "public code repository".  What does that mean?  And it all depends on one guy.Feb 21 06:39
msbI want to stay with Linux because it is a great human endevor and should not be allowed to be sabotaged by RH/US/NWO.Feb 21 06:40
cubexyzit's like I tried to explain earlierFeb 21 06:40
msbSorry, maybe I missed it or didn't understand.Feb 21 06:41
cubexyzfrom my point of view I'm just going to use an earlier pre-systemd distro or I'll use slackware or OpenBSDFeb 21 06:41
cubexyzthat's what I'm doing now... and in addition to that I research historical UnixFeb 21 06:42
msbRight, but I'm asking help with my point of view.Feb 21 06:42
msbWhat is  the display manager, please?Feb 21 06:42
cubexyzkdm or gdmFeb 21 06:42
msbThat's now in systemd too?Feb 21 06:43
cubexyzummm, it might be now, I'm not sure about thatFeb 21 06:43
cubexyzthere's xdm if you want something differentFeb 21 06:43
msbBut apps run after k/gdm chooses a DE and starts X.  How do apps depend on dm?Feb 21 06:44
cubexyzstrictly speaking the applications don't need a dmFeb 21 06:44
cubexyzthe display manager just does stuff like move the focus, and move windows aroundFeb 21 06:45
cubexyzsometimes I don't even run a dm at allFeb 21 06:45
cubexyzI'm running kdm on vectorFeb 21 06:46
cubexyzbut that's kdm from kde 3.5.10Feb 21 06:46
cubexyzso no systemd Feb 21 06:46
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msbI thought it was the window manager that moves windows around, etc.Feb 21 06:47
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msbI want to find a non-systemd that will work for most people -- for humanity.  Feb 21 06:50
cubexyzok, this is dependent on a few things... and it depends on which way things are set upFeb 21 06:50
cubexyzok, really with KDE 3.5.10 there are two things: kdm and kwinFeb 21 06:50
msbSo it should be Linux, and should be up to date, and well maintained.Feb 21 06:50
cubexyzbut sometimes there's only one thing: icewmFeb 21 06:50
cubexyzso on openbsd I login via text loginFeb 21 06:51
cubexyzthere's no gui loginFeb 21 06:51
msbSo icewm comes up and asks you to select a DE (or console mode)?Feb 21 06:51
cubexyznoFeb 21 06:52
cubexyzI'm starting completely in text modeFeb 21 06:52
cubexyzI start icewm via a scriptFeb 21 06:52
cubexyzthat starts X and icewmFeb 21 06:52
cubexyzso there's no gui login :)Feb 21 06:52
cubexyzI'm already logged in via text loginFeb 21 06:53
msbOK, but if one wants to select among multiple DEs, one needs K/G/XDM, right?  Or a script to do it.  I forgot about the login, but the DMs do that too.  In any case, I don't think apps would access the Feb 21 06:54
cubexyzok, now on other distros it could be set up differentlyFeb 21 06:54
msbDM.Feb 21 06:54
cubexyzwell I could just write multiple scripts for each wmFeb 21 06:55
cubexyzif you give me a second I can check what AntiX doesFeb 21 06:55
cubexyzit's in another roomFeb 21 06:55
msbOK.  Back to the apps.  I read that goddamn systemd will necessitate changing apps to keep up with it (churning apps).  So how and why do apps access/need systemd?Feb 21 06:56
msbObviously you don't need a heater in winter.  8^)Feb 21 06:57
msbI wish that scientes POS was here to explain.Feb 21 06:58
cubexyzI think antix uses slim for the gui loginFeb 21 07:03
cubexyzthe application shouldn't care if you run sysvinit or whateverFeb 21 07:04
cubexyzthe init controls the appsFeb 21 07:04
msbSo how does systemd "churn" apps?Feb 21 07:04
cubexyzit's like dependencies like library versions, same as alwaysFeb 21 07:06
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cubexyzif systemd gets new libraries, they have to work with the existing applicationsFeb 21 07:07
msbIf devuan has an init system, udev, etc, that doesn't use systemd, can it then use the normal debian repos?Feb 21 07:07
msbfor apps?Feb 21 07:08
cubexyzthat's speculativeFeb 21 07:08
cubexyzwe don't even have devuan yetFeb 21 07:08
cubexyzwho knows :)Feb 21 07:08
msbThis is a major tragedy, from the social viewpoint.Feb 21 07:09
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msbI _am_ a conspiracy theorist, and I know one when I see one.Feb 21 07:10
cubexyzok, obviously I don't agree with you-know-whoFeb 21 07:10
msbwho?Feb 21 07:11
cubexyzthe pro-systemd folksFeb 21 07:11
msbI'm just hoping it's a tragedy with a technical fix.Feb 21 07:12
cubexyzreally this has happened before with 4.3BSD and System VFeb 21 07:12
cubexyzit's a similar schismFeb 21 07:13
msbI doubt that was done by the ruling psychopaths to control the world's population, like this is.Feb 21 07:13
cubexyzBSD init vs SysV initFeb 21 07:13
cubexyzit's not just me saying thumbs down to systemdFeb 21 07:14
msbI know.  I have lots of articles and websites about that.Feb 21 07:14
cubexyzprint this out:Feb 21 07:15
cubexyzhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installationFeb 21 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jmy5s ]Feb 21 07:15
msbThe problem is that the major distros have swallowed it, from stupidity, bribes, or threats.Feb 21 07:15
cubexyzthere's lots of classic distros which I mentioned earlier, that will never use systemdFeb 21 07:16
msbI saw that, but it has very few major distros.Feb 21 07:16
cubexyzquasijarus, Research Unix, Plan 9, the BSDs, etcFeb 21 07:16
msbBut classic distros are out of date regarding security holes, new media formats, etc.Feb 21 07:17
cubexyzbut I can say the same thing about the new distros :)Feb 21 07:17
msbHow so?Feb 21 07:17
cubexyzthey don't support my hardware, and they have _new_ bugsFeb 21 07:17
msbVery few people have your old hardware.Feb 21 07:17
msbAnd new bugs will get fixed.Feb 21 07:18
cubexyzanyways, I'm not really that worried. That guy was just trying to bother peopleFeb 21 07:19
cubexyzI don't even think he seriously believes the stuff he was sayingFeb 21 07:19
msbI don't care about him.Feb 21 07:20
cubexyzfolks can run the old stuff forever if they want Feb 21 07:21
msbThe human race needs Linux, and systemd will destroy it.Feb 21 07:21
cubexyzusing FPGAs or emulators, or by fixing old hardwareFeb 21 07:21
cubexyzI spent over 10 years updating FC1Feb 21 07:21
msbThe old stuff doesn't handle new media formats, Android, and other stuff to be invented.Feb 21 07:21
msbThe public doesn't use FPGAs and emulators are slow.Feb 21 07:22
msbI am looking for a solution for everybody, not just you.Feb 21 07:22
cubexyzmost people don't even understand the OS that's on their computerFeb 21 07:23
cubexyzFPGAs are good... you could make your own CPU :)Feb 21 07:24
msbMost people don[t even know they are using an OS.Feb 21 07:24
msbI'm fine with an AMD 8-core -- much faster.Feb 21 07:25
cubexyzpersonally I think Linux is too bloated and complicatedFeb 21 07:26
cubexyzAntiX did a decent job pruning it downFeb 21 07:26
cubexyzOpenBSD is relatively leanFeb 21 07:26
msbDoesn;t matter.  Any PC today has GBs of RAM.Feb 21 07:27
cubexyzI don't use bluetooth, or sunrpc or nfs etcFeb 21 07:27
cubexyzit sure does matter if you want to try to understand itFeb 21 07:29
cubexyzlook at MIT's courseware for OS designFeb 21 07:29
cubexyzbut everybody's differentFeb 21 07:29
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cubexyzthat guy just parrots the same crap over and overFeb 21 07:31
cubexyz"who cares" Feb 21 07:31
cubexyzI careFeb 21 07:31
cubexyzemulated PDP-11 is quite fastFeb 21 07:35
cubexyzway faster than the fastest PDP-11 ever madeFeb 21 07:35
cubexyzinit is just a way to get things started, run some gettys, turn things off and onFeb 21 07:37
msbHow fast compared to an AMD FX-8350?Feb 21 07:37
cubexyzit's just a hosted OS... so it's speed depends on how fast the host isFeb 21 07:45
cubexyzin my case a P3 is fast enough to run any PDP-11 OS quite wellFeb 21 07:46
cubexyzif I put it on a FX-8350 it would be a lot faster I'm sureFeb 21 07:46
msbI'm talking about speed for playing x265s, transcoding, and video editing.Feb 21 07:47
msbnot running the OS.Feb 21 07:47
msbAgain, I am looking for a solution for everyone, not just techies.Feb 21 07:48
cubexyzI don't think everyone does those things eitherFeb 21 07:48
msbEveryone now views x265s.Feb 21 07:49
msbAnd lots of people edit videos.Feb 21 07:49
msbYou seem to be recommending that people get an FPGA and run PDP11 on it, just so they can run an old Unix that will not handle modern media formats, etc.  Does not make sense to me.Feb 21 07:51
cubexyzI only mentioned FPGAs to point out that when old hardware dies, people can still run on the old Unix on the FPGAFeb 21 07:52
cubexyzif they want to do thatFeb 21 07:52
cubexyzit's perfectly valid for businesses that need to replace legacy hardwareFeb 21 07:53
cubexyzjoe blow isn't going to listen to me anywaysFeb 21 07:55
cubexyzI'm sure if I wanted to I buy some appropriate computer hardware to edit videosFeb 21 07:55
cubexyzI wouldn't use a PDP-11 for that obviouslyFeb 21 07:55
msbI'm talking about average people.  They want a fast general purpose desktop or laptop for doing everything.Feb 21 07:57
msbUp to date, easy to use, not microshit.Feb 21 07:57
cubexyzmicroshit?Feb 21 07:57
msbMicrofuckshitpissFeb 21 07:58
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5635129Feb 21 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ibm insisted that it hadn't helped the #nsa with back doors despite #tpm work and recent revelations about hard-drive firmware bugs (IBM)Feb 21 08:42
schestowitz"Most of their Hard drive storage operation was sold off to Hitachi many years ago. And c"onsider Samsung, Seagate and the rest are now Asia centric.Feb 21 08:42
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5630086Feb 21 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hacker Claims Feds Hit Him With 44 Felonies When He Refused to Be an #FBI Spy http://www.wired.com/2015/02/hacker-claims-feds-hit-44-felonies-refused-fbi-spy/ recruitment by extortion/blackmailFeb 21 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | Hacker Claims Feds Hit Him With 44 Felonies When He Refused to Be an FBI Spy | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/jrrqp ]Feb 21 08:43
schestowitz"Stuff like this is why I think they suicided Ilya Zhitomirskiy."Feb 21 08:43
schestowitzI read somewhere that it was suicide but could not confirmFeb 21 08:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5635066Feb 21 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Good explanation of how #microsoft attacks #linux right now http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/microsoft-fights-google-android-cyanogen/Feb 21 08:44
schestowitz"There's nothing potent about Microsoft's "cloud". Bing, Skype, Outlook are miserable failures like everything else Microsoft touches. Idiot news sources like Fobes said the same kinds of silly things when Microsoft subjugated Yahoo, but it went no where. Microsoft's corruption of Cyanogenmod is one or two orders of magnitude less important than that."Feb 21 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.forbes.com | Microsoft's Trojan Horse To Undermine Android - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/jrrqu ]Feb 21 08:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Create QR Codes In Ubuntu/Linux MintFeb 21 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0AP0MHLvYA (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 08:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Create QR Codes In Ubuntu/Linux Mint | Tux MachinesFeb 21 08:49
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Why you should consider cloud-hosted Linux desktops http://t.co/UnLaErODD0'Feb 21 08:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/2/2015: Android Studio v1.1, GDB 7.9 | TechrightsFeb 21 08:50
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Mac Asay against convergence http://t.co/drdJTmuoGv some legitimate points...'Feb 21 08:54
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, and Arduino...'Feb 21 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | The Open Data Platform, like United Linux before it, will fail - TechRepublicFeb 21 08:55
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, and Arduino...'Feb 21 08:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3Feb 21 08:59
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/DFw8xlesax (major.io)Feb 21 08:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-major.io | Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3 - major.ioFeb 21 08:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Strength Of The SWORD ULTIMATE, Fully Funded &Feb 21 09:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Coming To Linux https://t.co/7zkEMq3layFeb 21 09:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 21 09:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrrvtFeb 21 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Strength Of The SWORD ULTIMATE, Fully Funded & Coming To Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 21 09:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Download ClearOS Community 6.6.0 With YouTubeFeb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines                 School ID Support http://t.co/TRpESTFdpZFeb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Download ClearOS Community 6.6.0 With YouTube School ID Support - SoftpediaFeb 21 09:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Released – Detailed ReviewFeb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines                 and Installation InstructionsFeb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6cj35p3lt9 (www.tecmint.com)Feb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrrxtFeb 21 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Released - Detailed Review and Installation InstructionsFeb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, andFeb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Arduino I/O http://t.co/6YEFWIZpuBFeb 21 09:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 21 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, and Arduino I/O ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 21 09:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Official Ubuntu Phone Porting Guide PublishedFeb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WTduPfM0lS (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 09:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Official Ubuntu Phone Porting Guide Published - SoftpediaFeb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Shell Gets a Visual Refresh Based on theFeb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Redesigned GTK+ Theme In GNOME 3.16 Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RIumZld4g1 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 09:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Shell Gets a Visual Refresh Based on the Redesigned GTK+ Theme In GNOME 3.16 - SoftpediaFeb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why All Linux (Security) Bugs Aren't Shallow Feb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/T3x7ylXAXwFeb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.esecurityplanet.com)Feb 21 09:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esecurityplanet.com | Why All Linux (Security) Bugs Aren't Shallow - eSecurity PlanetFeb 21 09:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to theFeb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines                 space station http://t.co/SNtX3rKZYJFeb 21 09:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the space station | ZDNetFeb 21 09:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linus Torvalds: Write Linux Kernel Code, 'GetFeb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Hired Really Quickly' http://t.co/uRhv7jqkrqFeb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.lifehacker.com.au)Feb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrs2bFeb 21 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.com.au | Linus Torvalds: Write Linux Kernel Code, 'Get Hired Really Quickly' | Lifehacker AustraliaFeb 21 09:45
TweetTuxMachines@rmsthebot       @tuxmachines Giving the Linus Torvalds Award toFeb 21 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 the Free Software Foundation is a bit likeFeb 21 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 giving the Han Solo Award to the RebelFeb 21 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Alliance.Feb 21 09:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrs2cFeb 21 09:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video OverviewFeb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 and Screenshot Tours http://t.co/6ZSf2BG9pFFeb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxscoop.com)Feb 21 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video Overview and Screenshot Tours - Linux ScoopFeb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrs4tFeb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPUFeb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Driver Code http://t.co/NBkqZiTYwkFeb 21 09:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU Driver Code - PhoronixFeb 21 09:59
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XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozero huhFeb 21 10:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ozero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 21 10:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz @koenrh @marchijinkNRC #Gemalto CEO saw 'the writing on the wall' or he was a prophet ;-) http://t.co/QPrSx73A7X #NSA #GCHQFeb 21 11:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xfce 4.12 Should Be Released in One WeekFeb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ngGA1zUZ5j (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/KFelyRGvii (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Xfce 4.12 Should Be Released in One Week, at the End of February - SoftpediaFeb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Gv5Rynbo34 (fossforce.com)Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrsorFeb 21 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Xfce 4.12 Is Still Planned For Release In One Week - PhoronixFeb 21 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Xfce 4.12, Raspberry Pi's Whole Number & More… | FOSS ForceFeb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New features in Fedora 22 Workstation.Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/r9eLWrhCwB (paul.frields.org)Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 #redhatFeb 21 11:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.frields.org | New features in Fedora 22 Workstation. - The Grand FallacyFeb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The prize money for the award will be given toFeb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 the TAILS Free Software project." http:/...Feb 21 11:49
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bFI9dTIOWS (joindiaspora.com)Feb 21 11:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "The prize money ...Feb 21 11:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/569099523898761216Feb 21 11:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz @micahflee "sends copies of SIM crypto keys to carriers…often⇒email/FTP. What'd possibly go wrong…"with #Gemalto's stupidity?Feb 21 11:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     T-Mobile Galaxy S5 lands Lollipop to lead thisFeb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 week's Android device update roundupFeb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zdtscLty93 (www.greenbot.com)Feb 21 12:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com | T-Mobile Galaxy S5 lands Lollipop to lead this week's Android device update roundup | GreenbotFeb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LibreOffice 4.3.6 Released as TDF CelebratesFeb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Three Years http://t.co/Px418EX8XBFeb 21 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 12:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 4.3.6 Released as TDF Celebrates Three Years | Tux MachinesFeb 21 12:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Editorial: Linux Gaming Will Be Fine EvenFeb 21 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Without Steam Machines SucceedingFeb 21 12:13
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/70OIH8cWZR (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 21 12:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Editorial: Linux Gaming Will Be Fine Even Without Steam Machines Succeeding | GamingOnLinuxFeb 21 12:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland/Weston 1.7.0 Make It For Ubuntu 15.04Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ToxJbSnkBC (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 12:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland/Weston 1.7.0 Make It For Ubuntu 15.04 - PhoronixFeb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-based desktops work despite Windows appFeb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 prevalence http://t.co/2PqaWZsjj8Feb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com) "WindowsFeb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 applications are a hurdle"Feb 21 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com | Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app prevalenceFeb 21 12:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For LinuxFeb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 3.20/4.0? http://t.co/MUIpJfxKfdFeb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) http://t.co/EtfTrQMF2JFeb 21 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux 3.20/4.0? - PhoronixFeb 21 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Code Merged This Week For Linux 3.20/4.0 Is Just As Exciting As Last Week - PhoronixFeb 21 12:39
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569114703294803970Feb 21 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz #LibreOffice user here. Great news! Any word on #Kompozer? It's still the best OS web design tool I know.Feb 21 12:51
schestowitzI have not heard about it for yearsFeb 21 12:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569116109099679744Feb 21 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Development has stalled since 2007. I wonder if the issue is funding?Feb 21 12:55
schestowitzprobably a contributing factorFeb 21 12:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569117059642212352Feb 21 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Have they considered crowdfunding? I would certainly help to publicise it by sharing on my social media accounts and blog.Feb 21 13:01
schestowitzWorth working towards if you can get in touch with the devs (probably moved on in their lives)Feb 21 13:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118572515106817Feb 21 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz That's the problem; web design ends up being restricted to pretentious Adobe Creative Suite users who don't know what "code"...Feb 21 13:06
schestowitzWhy not use CMS with integrated WYSIWYG?Feb 21 13:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118773397090305Feb 21 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz ...means. If it's not W3C compliant you lose me at "Hello."Feb 21 13:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569119752246988800Feb 21 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz I do. And it's better and easier. However, if you don't understand how it actually works you can't deliver the results you wantFeb 21 13:10
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569120051590250497Feb 21 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz which is why I always advocate learning to build from scratch. You can take shortcuts later when you understand what you cut.Feb 21 13:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As DefaultFeb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/98MbviM4E3 (www.webupd8.org)Feb 21 13:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blogFeb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/GmB2UB3JpQ (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 21 13:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 - SoftpediaFeb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on SteamFeb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 for Linux http://t.co/BlXHvVM7f7Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on Steam for Linux - SoftpediaFeb 21 13:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become theFeb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines                 coolest Android phone ever?Feb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xrgrvcmkz0 (www.networkworld.com)Feb 21 13:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the coolest Android phone ever? | Network WorldFeb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra SecureFeb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Messaging AppFeb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/y1tftc6U0t (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 21 13:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrta9Feb 21 13:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra Secure Messaging App - SoftpediaFeb 21 13:41
MinceRgeekingsFeb 21 13:46
MinceRthe zero-copy scientes mentioned was yet another poor excuse: "Lennart said that it works better to simply copy anything that is less than about 512KB" http://lwn.net/Articles/580194/Feb 21 14:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | The unveiling of kdbus [LWN.net]Feb 21 14:10
XRevan86schestowitz: rss2snFeb 21 14:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now HasFeb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Better ODT Format SupportFeb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BxcNGHunvs (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 14:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now Has Better ODT Format Support - SoftpediaFeb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On LinuxFeb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/d7oMel58D3 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 21 14:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Many new LTS releases of gnu linuxFeb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xUM41MpuIG (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/OJMjOSWO6i (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Edubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Has Been Officially Released - SoftpediaFeb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/S5ihB7PPrH (www.kubuntu.org)Feb 21 14:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Berq4Y3nND (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released, Users Can No Longer Upgrade to Plasma 5 - SoftpediaFeb 21 14:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kubuntu.org | Kubuntu 14.04 LTS Update Out | KubuntuFeb 21 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Arrives with Linux Kernel 3.16 - SoftpediaFeb 21 14:31
schestowitzwow. sites of gun nuts http://www.ammoland.com/2015/02/america-in-distress-have-we-reached-the-tipping-point/#axzz3SOHBFUcrFeb 21 14:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ammoland.com | America In Distress - Have We Reached The Tipping Point? [ http://ur1.ca/jrtmm ]Feb 21 14:40
MinceRmore like republican wingnutsFeb 21 14:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: UpdateFeb 21 14:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Coming http://t.co/acLhZSon3tFeb 21 14:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latinospost.com | Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: Update Coming to Motorola Devices After Nexus & HTC? : Tech : Latinos PostFeb 21 14:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Android 5.1 Lollipop release date confirmed for HTC One M7 GPE, Nexus devices to follow soonFeb 21 14:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wine 1.7.37 Adds UTF-7 Encoding, InterfaceFeb 21 14:43
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TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4ratRZn0Sy (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 21 14:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support, Fixes 71 Bugs - SoftpediaFeb 21 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The Wine Development Release 1.7.37 Is Now Available | GamingOnLinuxFeb 21 14:43
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636970Feb 21 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/locally-integrated-menus-lim-set-as.html #ubuntu #linuxFeb 21 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.webupd8.org | Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog [ http://ur1.ca/jrtnr ]Feb 21 14:45
schestowitz"Good!"Feb 21 14:45
schestowitz"As long as global can be configured :)"Feb 21 14:45
schestowitz"I don't find this feature particularly convenient. Probably the idea of some Apple fanboy inside Canonical. :P But yes it is good to have options."Feb 21 14:45
schestowitzOne can install KDE on top as Ubuntu, as I often do..Feb 21 14:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636961Feb 21 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lendows or Lennux can be avoided http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installationFeb 21 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> without-systemd.org | Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jmy5s ]Feb 21 14:46
schestowitz"What distro are you using?"Feb 21 14:46
schestowitzDebian and KubuntuFeb 21 14:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636755Feb 21 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ClipperChip/status/568912218412216321Feb 21 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ClipperChip: .@ggreenwald EU: “We demand answers!” US: “The answers you seek are in another castle.” – EU: "Oh, okay." http://t.co/Ut3PMO4fb1Feb 21 14:46
schestowitz"These are not the answers you're looking for"Feb 21 14:46
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msbschestowitz: I think the non-systemd solution has to be: 1. a major distro, or one that uses the repos of one, so it has lots of support 2. not source code or run by one person (slackware funtoo gentoo) 3. is up to date and continually modernized, so it supports new games, media formats, etc. 4. is Linux, not *bsd, because Linux is vital for humanity.Feb 21 15:45
msbThere are only 15 people in the PCLinuxOS IRC support channel, compared to 288 in the Suse channel.Feb 21 16:06
MinceRmaybe suse needs that much more supportFeb 21 16:06
msbNo.  PCLOS is created by one person.Feb 21 16:07
XRevan86MinceR: No, PCLinuxOS is really unpopular.Feb 21 16:07
msbXRevan86: Do you know why?Feb 21 16:07
XRevan86msb: Not really.Feb 21 16:07
XRevan86msb: I did look at it but quickly dropped it since repos are very small.Feb 21 16:08
msbSo there is no distro suitable for the general public in that without-systemd.org list.Feb 21 16:09
XRevan86"Trisquel GNU/Linux" сan be removed from that list, by the wayFeb 21 16:09
msbSuse was very well designed before it adopted systemd.  It has lots of support.Feb 21 16:10
XRevan86since systemd will be in Trisquel 8.0 (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS)Feb 21 16:10
msbDamn!Feb 21 16:10
msbI guess we have to pray for Devuan.Feb 21 16:11
XRevan86Point Linux is Debian-based.Feb 21 16:11
XRevan86Pardus is Debian-based and also sucks a lotFeb 21 16:11
XRevan86msb: Pisi Linux is nice but repos are small, too :)Feb 21 16:12
XRevan86msb: They also did write there own init system.Feb 21 16:12
msbI figure if I haven't heard of it it's too small to be reliable.Feb 21 16:13
XRevan86msb: Have you heard about pardus?Feb 21 16:13
MinceRstill more reliable than LendowsFeb 21 16:13
XRevan86msb: before it became a useless Debian derivateFeb 21 16:13
msbNo.  Feb 21 16:13
XRevan86Pisi Linux is a fork of PardusFeb 21 16:13
msbNone of these obscure distros is going to have much support, or can be counted on to be maintained for years.Feb 21 16:14
msbAnd if one run by one person becomes very popular, he'll probably be killed in a hunting accident by 87 stray bullets and a hand-grenade.Feb 21 16:16
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msbI'm not looking for one for myself so much, but for the general public, so they can use it before the systemd distros turn to shit.Feb 21 16:18
msbAlternate mode of death for people who oppose the fascist system: suicide by shooting oneself in the head twice.Feb 21 16:20
msbGoddess protect the Devuan people!Feb 21 16:22
msbVectorLinux has 13 people in its IRC.Feb 21 16:39
MinceRsalix has 16Feb 21 16:39
__martin__holy shietFeb 21 16:39
__martin__had no clue pentagon was this farFeb 21 16:40
__martin__"The research is based on extracting narratives from millions of American, Iranian and Chinese weblogs, and subjecting them to automated discourse analysis to compare them quantitatively across the three languages. The investigators then follow up using behavioral experiments with readers/listeners from different cultures to gauge their reaction different narratives “where each story makes an appeFeb 21 16:40
__martin__al to a sacred value to explain or justify a morally-questionable behavior of the author.” Finally, the scientists apply neurobiological fMRI scanning to correlate the reactions and personal characteristics of subjects with their brain responses."Feb 21 16:40
msbWow, talk about "morally questionable"!Feb 21 16:41
msbSo, based on that analysis, they automatically brew up a virus that kills the part of the person's brain that opposes the rulers.Feb 21 16:42
msbAnd deliver it to him by a drone.Feb 21 16:43
msbOf course if they're using fMRI they already have him.Feb 21 16:44
__martin__at least the main villain in the marvel's latest sci-fi blockbuster "jupiter ascending" copies the looks of young bill gates excellently so people can count one plus one and join the partial truths about him lolFeb 21 16:53
__martin__[directors = trangender matrix creators]Feb 21 16:54
__martin__trans*Feb 21 16:54
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schestowitzXRevan86: fork?Feb 21 17:52
schestowitzI think successor?Feb 21 17:52
schestowitzOr renameFeb 21 17:52
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XRevan86schestowitz: I can really say "successor" since something is still living with a name Pardus Feb 21 17:56
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5637005Feb 21 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #avg on 'malware' that "requires an Android device to be “rooted”" and for use to install it http://www.pcworld.com/article/2886932/android-malware-fakes-phone-shutdown-to-steal-data.htmlFeb 21 17:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | Android malware fakes phone shutdown to steal your data | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jruta ]Feb 21 17:58
schestowitz"A scare piece against rooting your phone and/or using app stores like F-Droid?"Feb 21 17:58
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__martin__yep, like garret's secure boot apologismFeb 21 17:59
MinceRmore like a piece of FUD against android, imoFeb 21 17:59
MinceRit's from IDG, after allFeb 21 17:59
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5629974Feb 21 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/568579388817735680Feb 21 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: There is nobody on earth who has exploited 9/11 more frequently, shamelessly and self-servingly than Rudy Giuliani http://t.co/SAnRpC2tVcFeb 21 17:59
schestowitz"lol First person to say "9/11" nine-hundred and eleven times in one 10 min speech gets to legally change his name 9/11..."Feb 21 17:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/roppert/status/569192299680428033Feb 21 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@roppert: @schestowitz @teirdes Never trust big corporations, no matter how or what they do to convince us. Why? Cause greed is only common motivator.Feb 21 18:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Riz_myth/status/569193154416545792Feb 21 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Riz_myth: Dzekoooooooo is Backkkkk 3-0 & it's only 21mins of the game played #MCINEW | #ManCityNewcastleFeb 21 18:14
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/kBTXDYeFeb 21 18:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Germany's heart of gold - ImgurFeb 21 18:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Creating a Community: Getting StartedFeb 21 19:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Creating a Community: Getting Started | Tux MachinesFeb 21 19:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New AMD Processors Supported By CorebootFeb 21 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New AMD Processors Supported By Coreboot | Tux MachinesFeb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps areFeb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines                 almost here http://t.co/LzVrOrKDi0Feb 21 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps are almost here | Tux MachinesFeb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/KW5K9dSCbaFeb 21 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 21 20:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636987Feb 21 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Promotion of the 'cloud' religion has led people to not caring about #security or blindly trusting 'cloud' because "everyone's doin' it!"Feb 21 21:42
schestowitz"and Big Data, and the Internet of Things. All privacy disasters."Feb 21 21:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux DistributionFeb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jjUzzWADEZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux Distribution | Tux MachinesFeb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts withFeb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Geocodable Addresses http://t.co/4uLQB9ZYVLFeb 21 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts with Geocodable Addresses | Tux MachinesFeb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Workstation Pushed This WeekFeb 21 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22 Workstation Pushed This Week | Tux MachinesFeb 21 22:43
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_FawkesFeb 21 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Guy Fawkes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 21 22:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat announces the availability ofFeb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globallyFeb 21 23:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat announces the availability of Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globally | Tux MachinesFeb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released withFeb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Better Ubuntu Unity SupportFeb 21 23:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released with Better Ubuntu Unity Support | Tux MachinesFeb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mir Now Depends Upon C++14Feb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Lb6L0dAmwQ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 23:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mir Now Depends Upon C++14 | Tux MachinesFeb 21 23:25
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pilgmEahPUkFeb 21 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Love Police: Riding God's Drunken Ferrari - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwvg ]Feb 21 23:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support forFeb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Several RISC Microprocessor ArchitecturesFeb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/nS0Q4g8R5H (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 23:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support for Several RISC Microprocessor Architectures | Tux MachinesFeb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HDFeb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Graphics http://t.co/N7OF5A09rMFeb 21 23:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HD Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 21 23:38
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc8hGD8ftFAFeb 21 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit 3 "Will you follow me, one last time?" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwya ]Feb 21 23:42
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKQk06dqmzUFeb 21 23:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit 3 Azog's and his armie and Bolg. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwym ]Feb 21 23:44
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW-IgJHM3cYFeb 21 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit - Azog's army arrives - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwyz ]Feb 21 23:45
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t57AVYNcyBQFeb 21 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit - The epic battle begins - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwza ]Feb 21 23:47
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20F0Ms0GjoYFeb 21 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit - People of Laketown fight back part 1 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwzx ]Feb 21 23:50
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LMIRK6riIcFeb 21 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit - These bats are bred for one purpose... for war - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrx10 ]Feb 21 23:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 14/2/2015: Mageia 5 Beta 3 Released, TPPFeb 15 00:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Imperialism http://t.co/qfdajvDTTJFeb 15 00:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/2/2015: Mageia 5 Beta 3 Released, TPP Imperialism | TechrightsFeb 15 00:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Uh oh! Steam Machines are doomed or somethingFeb 15 00:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Uh oh! Steam Machines are doomed or something | Tux MachinesFeb 15 00:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cutegram 2, the Best Telegram Client for LinuxFeb 15 00:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Ever http://t.co/8uzSSDGTikFeb 15 00:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cutegram 2, the Best Telegram Client for Linux Ever | Tux MachinesFeb 15 00:10
cubexyzcheck it out... just learned about this one:Feb 15 00:12
cubexyzhttps://srlabs.de/badusb/Feb 15 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Send failure: Connection reset by peer ( status 0 @ https://srlabs.de/badusb/ )Feb 15 00:13
cubexyzSecure Boot, Intel Boot guard... what else? Oh yeah, Microsoft Surface RT tablets.. I'm sensing a bad trend hereFeb 15 00:17
MinceRTPM, AMTFeb 15 00:20
cubexyzJanuary 1st, 2015... all computers will have to be equipped with a TPM 2.0 module in order to pass Windows 8.1 hardware certificationFeb 15 00:22
cubexyzI assume TPM can be turned off?Feb 15 00:24
MinceRit canFeb 15 00:24
MinceRbut the manufacturer doesn't deserve to be paid for TPMsFeb 15 00:24
MinceRsince it's foisted on users without asking them whether or not they want itFeb 15 00:24
cubexyzok, so which motherboards should I be looking at?Feb 15 00:24
MinceRdunnoFeb 15 00:24
MinceRi gave up on itFeb 15 00:24
MinceRsince my TPM-less laptop was an unreliable piece of shit with crap supportFeb 15 00:25
MinceRfrom dHellFeb 15 00:25
cubexyzwell if the bios is socketed, that's one thingFeb 15 00:27
cubexyzyou can pop the chip out and reprogram itFeb 15 00:27
cubexyzof course that assumes you have a lot of knowledge, or the board is already coreboot supportedFeb 15 00:28
cubexyzI get gigabyte is worth a look, they have co-operated with corebootFeb 15 00:30
cubexyzs/get/guess/Feb 15 00:30
MinceRsounds niceFeb 15 00:32
cubexyzI already reprogrammed Gigabyte GA-6BXCFeb 15 00:33
cubexyzbut it's rather oldFeb 15 00:33
cubexyzthis is the best info I know about:Feb 15 01:03
cubexyzhttp://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/systemsFeb 15 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Recommended Complete Systems — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareFeb 15 01:03
cubexyzI guess if you can find a used Lenovo X200 cheap, buy itFeb 15 01:08
cubexyzor X60Feb 15 01:08
MinceRi already have a ThinkPad X220i TabletFeb 15 01:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/XbhHCcXTidFeb 15 01:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 15 01:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/C20t36NXy4Feb 15 01:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 15 01:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/J9613CnAkkFeb 15 01:30
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DaemonFCMinceR, There's been some pushback on that, and Microsoft doesn't actually require it.Feb 15 04:47
DaemonFCManufacturers of low end systems would have their profit margin wiped out because a TPM costs them about $30.Feb 15 04:47
DaemonFCAlso, if you don't want to use the TPM, you don't actually have to. If you're really paranoid about it, just unload the Linux kernel modules that are needed to operate it.Feb 15 04:48
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DaemonFCApple says it will make a self-driving car.Feb 15 05:56
DaemonFCThat means that if you end up in a country that hasn't existed in 40 years or on an airport runway, you have only yourself to blame. :)Feb 15 05:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 36 Won't Bring Native YouTube HTML5Feb 15 07:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Playback, But Will Sync Pinned TilesFeb 15 07:37
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DaemonFChttp://www.zdnet.com/article/top-android-news-of-the-week-shipments-drop-for-first-time-android-wear-shipments-not-big-royalty/Feb 15 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Top Android news of the week: Shipments drop, Android Wear not big, royalty battle ends | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jqdom ]Feb 15 07:51
DaemonFCThe other shoe drops. Samsung announces that Microsoft's bloated crapware will be integrated into the Galaxy S6 and Microsoft drops the patent lawsuits against Samsung.Feb 15 07:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LinuxSocist/status/566843474779992064Feb 15 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LinuxSocist: @schestowitz The same Police that have been corrupt tactics against Freetown Christiana for the past 40 years?Feb 15 08:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/onlygoodcomez/status/566891865706754049Feb 15 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@onlygoodcomez: @schestowitz @HeartPowered nothing could preventd them as the plans were to be followed true to suit whoever 'planned them" #falseflagsFeb 15 10:43
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/566912974590205952Feb 15 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz bullshit....covering their ass, why?...everyone knows they are War Criminals.Feb 15 11:01
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schestowitzhttp://www.universityherald.com/articles/15905/20150214/harvard-and-mit-accused-in-lawsuit-of-discriminating-against-the-deaf-in-online-courses.htmFeb 15 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.universityherald.com | Harvard and MIT Accused in Lawsuit of Discriminating Against the Deaf in Online Courses : News : University Herald [ http://ur1.ca/jqfa1 ]Feb 15 12:57
schestowitzhttp://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2015/02/13/why-we-cant-trust-vladimir-putin-n1956760Feb 15 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-townhall.com | Why We Can't Trust Vladimir Putin - Mark Nuckols - Page 1 [ http://ur1.ca/jqfal ]Feb 15 13:00
schestowitz"Vladimir Putin is a gangster at the head of a criminal state. Unfortunately, Russia is a nuclear armed criminal state run by ignorant and dishonest thugs. We simply cannot rely on the Kremlin to deal in good faith or perhaps even act rationally. The threat posed by this aggressor state can’t be simply ignored, but rather must be resolutely confronted and contained. "Feb 15 13:00
schestowitzhttp://www.laprensasa.com/309_america-in-english/2945004_cuban-journalist-who-wrote-about-fidel-castro-dies.htmlFeb 15 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.laprensasa.com | Cuban journalist who wrote about Fidel Castro dies :: La Prensa :: America in English [ http://ur1.ca/jqfdv ]Feb 15 13:16
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynco/status/566959840358957056   https://twitter.com/glynco/status/566960970933624835Feb 15 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz and torture actually makes us less safe http://t.co/QrEhMoFx0tFeb 15 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.humanrightsfirst.org | The Truth on Torture is Here | Human Rights FirstFeb 15 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz more on the voodoo science of torture designed by the modern day equivalent of snake oil salesmen http://t.co/mo32bPVwrZFeb 15 14:04
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schestowitz80 million dollarsFeb 15 14:04
schestowitzmsb: #cia is now pursuing weather warfare http://marketbusinessnews.com/weaponized-weather-inquiry-alarms-rutgers-university-climate-scientist/48186 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2954051/Chill-factor-CIA-weather-query.htmlFeb 15 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marketbusinessnews.com | Weaponized weather inquiry alarms Rutgers University climate scientist - Market Business News [ http://ur1.ca/jqfzf ]Feb 15 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Chill factor at 'cia' weather query | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jqfzg ]Feb 15 14:51
schestowitznot to be confused with that "chemtrail" BSFeb 15 14:51
schestowitz"Feb 15 15:31
schestowitz"As far as we are aware, the fee scheme for the Unitary Patent has not yet been officially agreed, i.e. it is still under discussion."Feb 15 15:31
schestowitzWe attach the document without comment, in the hope that it might be of interest to you.Feb 15 15:31
schestowitzWe forgot the attachment - but the document could be retrieved via the link we gave ... :-)Feb 15 15:31
schestowitz"Feb 15 15:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JohnDiNardo/status/566982321031872513Feb 15 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnDiNardo: @schestowitz Nétanyahou Arrangé Faux Paris Fussilade à Inciter à la Haine à l'égard des Musulmans. http://t.co/llpjSmrTohFeb 15 15:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     elementary OS: is financial support the onlyFeb 15 17:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | elementary OS: is financial support the only way to help a project grow? - Linux VedaFeb 15 17:15
schestowitz> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.isoFeb 15 17:27
schestowitz> Feb 15 17:27
schestowitz> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.ascFeb 15 17:27
schestowitz> Feb 15 17:27
schestowitz> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.shaFeb 15 17:27
schestowitz> Feb 15 17:27
schestowitz> do not use this in production, this is an internal preview (not even anFeb 15 17:27
schestowitz> alpha)Feb 15 17:27
MinceR:)Feb 15 17:28
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5588112Feb 15 17:32
schestowitz"@sticks_us no, GNU people are hostile with us in fact. We are free software community but they seggregate us because of the license. We just react to this hypocrisy. I had joined in a free software activist group 1 year ago when I was a GNU fan and Debian fan, to the misfortune of them was at the same time I started getting interested in other Unix-like systems (BSD specifically), at the same time OpenBSD project was needing money to Feb 15 17:32
schestowitzkeep the project alive or will die. I went there in IRC channel of that group there to ask to donate to OpenBSD or it could die if it did not receive donation and it is a free software project. The answer I received was: "I won't donate do a project that it's not GPL.". this is a sociopathic attitude, no empathy. After that I left the group because they did not advocate free software, just the product that they loved as fanboys. Now I Feb 15 17:32
schestowitzam a really skeptical and critical about this GNU community. They lie about free software."Feb 15 17:32
schestowitzThere are legitimate reasons for FSF not to support OpenBSD. First, Theo de Raadt smears RMS. Second, UNIX is not GNU/Linux.Feb 15 17:33
MinceRperhaps they don't want to pay for something to be developed that is a gift to abusive corporationsFeb 15 17:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222Feb 15 17:36
schestowitz"http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"Feb 15 17:36
schestowitzproving that mass surveillance is not neededFeb 15 17:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873Feb 15 17:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873Feb 15 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz ah, but they'll just say that's because there isn't enough of it :(Feb 15 17:38
schestowitz[17:42] <schestowitz> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222Feb 15 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The assailant, PET the Danish Intelligence service confirmed a moment ago, was known to them." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597663 #surveillance failFeb 15 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #police on the ground - not mass #surveillance - secures #denmark http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_DENMARK_SHOTS_FIRED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-02-14-19-34-22Feb 15 17:39
schestowitz[17:42] <schestowitz> "http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"Feb 15 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Copenhagen shootings suspect was 'known to police' | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jqgyr ]Feb 15 17:39
schestowitzThe public will buy itFeb 15 17:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015450534739968Feb 15 17:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz more worrying is precedent that all we do/say/download should be run past 'thought police' in case is or will become 'bad'Feb 15 17:40
schestowitzNot because of terrorism but perhaps journalism, leaks, etc.Feb 15 17:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015916463198210Feb 15 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz not all of us !Feb 15 17:43
XRevan86I don't get it: http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux this only package in Devuan is built only for amd64Feb 15 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.devuan.org | Index of /devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux/ [ http://ur1.ca/jqgzv ]Feb 15 17:45
XRevan86and preaplpha is only for i386Feb 15 17:45
XRevan86pre-alpha*Feb 15 17:45
XRevan86I don't understand what this image has to offer.Feb 15 17:46
MinceRthe iso was probably built on some developer's own machineFeb 15 17:46
XRevan86MinceR: Why repo is amd64-only then?Feb 15 17:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567016422057193472Feb 15 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz think it's about the motive & because can. The 'excuse'-war on drugs/terror/immigration/copyright violation increasingly secondFeb 15 17:46
MinceRi don't knowFeb 15 17:46
schestowitzindeed, and they get the data too (DEA)Feb 15 17:47
MinceRi don't even know if what is built by Jenkins goes into the repo linked aboveFeb 15 17:47
schestowitzme neitherFeb 15 17:47
schestowitzMinceR: it's not a final product, far from itFeb 15 17:47
schestowitzbut at least they build somethingFeb 15 17:48
MinceRindeedFeb 15 17:48
XRevan86Maybe they have some another repo?Feb 15 17:49
XRevan86Because… they are removing systemd-shim via ugly postinst in devuan-baseconfFeb 15 17:50
XRevan86and policykit-1 package requires libpam-systemdFeb 15 17:50
XRevan86ah, wait, I am silly, they're removing systemd-sysvFeb 15 17:50
XRevan86then it's okay, but still, this .iso of theirs must contain systemdFeb 15 17:51
MinceRi haven't installed it yetFeb 15 17:51
XRevan86Me neither, I'm just theorizing :)Feb 15 17:51
cubexyzmaybe it's time for GentooFeb 15 17:52
XRevan86Xfce requires polkit, polkit requires libpam-systemd, libpam-systemd requires systemd with shim or not.Feb 15 17:52
MinceRgentoo can likely do things devuan won't doFeb 15 17:52
MinceRlike removing polkit and consolekit and dependencies to themFeb 15 17:52
XRevan86and packages.devuan.org doesn't provide an override for itFeb 15 17:52
MinceR(that is, building a full system that does not include them nor depends on them)Feb 15 17:52
XRevan86MinceR: They won't because that's a strange thing to do.Feb 15 17:52
MinceR(i don't know yet how well it will work, but i'm planning to try)Feb 15 17:53
XRevan86what they should do is build polkit without systemdFeb 15 17:53
MinceRi don't think that trying to remove more of poettering & co's crappy code would be "a strange thing to do"Feb 15 17:53
XRevan86MinceR: And so every happy Devuan user will reboot his PC with "shutdown -r now"Feb 15 17:54
MinceRi don't know about "every happy devuan user"Feb 15 17:54
MinceRbut it would be fine for meFeb 15 17:54
XRevan86and that's ConsoleKitFeb 15 17:55
MinceRcertainly preferable than trying to figure out by trial and error yet again how to fix things when something like udisks2 silently diesFeb 15 17:55
XRevan86polkit… I don't know if one can detach it from Xfce or other DEFeb 15 17:55
MinceRand the documentation says nothing about how it's supposed to be started, because magicFeb 15 17:55
MinceRi can live without a DEFeb 15 17:55
MinceRthe point is that in gentoo you can do stuff with dependencies that a binary distro could not easily allow you to doFeb 15 17:56
MinceRbecause there are only so many versions of the same package worth buildingFeb 15 17:57
cubexyzyesFeb 15 17:57
XRevan86MinceR: It also mixes builddeps with regular ones so if something requires libsystemd…Feb 15 17:57
XRevan86or libpulseFeb 15 17:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/566976942327742464Feb 15 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JesselynRadack: NYT: "Even when no idea who did #Copenhagen shootings, @twitter was ablaze w/ anti- #Muslim vitriol" http://t.co/yq3b0VS3jx #IslamophobiaFeb 15 18:01
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schestowitzEven without footage from CCTV the choice of first target have away the religionFeb 15 18:01
XRevan86MinceR: Anyway, systemd is not what causes my issue with Devuan.Feb 15 18:02
XRevan86it's just… they called themselved Veteran UNIX Admins, they asked for donations without having a productFeb 15 18:03
XRevan86people advertized DevuanFeb 15 18:03
XRevan86and now they're doing stuff so slow I am starting to wonder if they know what they're doingFeb 15 18:03
cubexyzUnix traditionalists wouldn't use Linux thoughFeb 15 18:03
cubexyzthey would use one of the BSDsFeb 15 18:03
XRevan86cubexyz: There is a special group of 'Unixers' who use OS XFeb 15 18:04
cubexyzsure, there's lots of groupsFeb 15 18:04
MinceRyes, there are people who play with that toy and call it unix, even though it isn'tFeb 15 18:04
XRevan86they tend to call themselves unixoidsFeb 15 18:04
cubexyzthere's groups for AIX and everything one can imagineFeb 15 18:04
MinceRand i don't particularly care who pays The "Open" Group this week for the trademarkFeb 15 18:05
XRevan86cubexyz: I mean, a bit lot of people who call themselves users of Unix are users of OS XFeb 15 18:05
MinceRcall an unreliable, insecure, shiny toy by any name, it will still be an unreliable, insecure, shiny toyFeb 15 18:05
XRevan86a big*Feb 15 18:05
cubexyzXRevan86, the real hackers want source code thoughFeb 15 18:05
cubexyzthey like writing code, fixing it, etcFeb 15 18:05
XRevan86and so I suspect VUA in being onesFeb 15 18:05
MinceRXRevan86: there are many projects that ask for donations before their first releaseFeb 15 18:06
MinceRthere's crowdfunding, for exampleFeb 15 18:06
XRevan86MinceR: These project are big and major.Feb 15 18:06
MinceRno, not all of them areFeb 15 18:06
XRevan86Devuan did nothing serious since the beginning.Feb 15 18:06
MinceRthen don't donate to themFeb 15 18:07
cubexyzXRevan86, there's some pretty serious PDP-11 hackers stillFeb 15 18:07
XRevan86MinceR: I don't, still I know people who did. I don't understand them.Feb 15 18:07
MinceRyeah, how dare they support a project that didn't get to its first release in one day?Feb 15 18:08
cubexyzMinceR, start up a crowdfunding thing for Anti-Systemd :)Feb 15 18:08
MinceRi don't think i need toFeb 15 18:08
XRevan86MinceR: s/one day/several months/;s/first release/serveral packages like patched polkit/Feb 15 18:09
MinceRif enough people want to maintain a debian wheezy-like reliable non-rolling non-systemd distro, that's nice and i'll use itFeb 15 18:09
MinceRif not, i'll just get by with bedrock and gentooFeb 15 18:09
MinceRif that fails, i'll go to netbsd or whateverFeb 15 18:09
MinceReven if IT goes to hell, they can't prevent me from running a release that's still saneFeb 15 18:10
cubexyzhard to imagine every distro going systemdFeb 15 18:10
cubexyzI'm sure there will be some hold-outsFeb 15 18:10
MinceRi hope soFeb 15 18:10
MinceRbut i don't know if it will happenFeb 15 18:11
XRevan86All those Devuan donations could go to Gentoo, for instance :)Feb 15 18:14
MinceRyeah, who needs diversity?Feb 15 18:15
XRevan86or if not Devuan then maybe some other group of people would do the jobFeb 15 18:15
cubexyzI run a lot of old stuff, it's not going to disappearFeb 15 18:15
MinceRso it doesn't matter who does it, as long as it's not Devuan? :>Feb 15 18:15
XRevan86MinceR: No, you don't see my point.Feb 15 18:15
XRevan86Devuan had a lot of fuss, really a lot.Feb 15 18:16
XRevan86and a lot of donationsFeb 15 18:16
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XRevan86and they didn't do anything worthy this attention and moneyFeb 15 18:16
MinceRi haven't seen the "fuss" and don't know how much money they gotFeb 15 18:18
XRevan86MinceR: I've seen several pages on habrahabr about them with lots of commentsFeb 15 18:18
XRevan86major Russian IT blogging networkFeb 15 18:19
MinceRi don't read habrahabrFeb 15 18:19
MinceRand i don't understand much of russianFeb 15 18:19
XRevan86MinceR: Point is: Devuan got a lot of attention.Feb 15 18:19
XRevan86and they wanted it, just read http://debianfork.org/Feb 15 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debianfork.org | Devuan - the GNU/Linux by Veteran Unix Admins.Feb 15 18:20
MinceRon a russian websiteFeb 15 18:20
XRevan86MinceR: I read russian websites so no wonder I'm talking about them :)Feb 15 18:20
MinceRand i don't know how many experienced [ex-]debian package maintainers are working on itFeb 15 18:21
cubexyzdo Russians use Linux a lot?Feb 15 18:21
MinceRseems to be a more significant limit to productivity than donationsFeb 15 18:21
XRevan86cubexyz: Not really.Feb 15 18:21
XRevan86cubexyz: Just like everywhere else.Feb 15 18:21
cubexyzI thought Putin was trying to move people in that directionFeb 15 18:22
cubexyzbut yeah, I talk to the odd Russian Linux personFeb 15 18:23
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, there is an idea to move government sector and schools to GNU/Linux.Feb 15 18:23
XRevan86but the product of this idea is… nothing, really.Feb 15 18:24
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XRevan86A lot of hatred toward Linux from school teachersFeb 15 18:24
MinceRif it's anything like hungary (another post-communist mafia state) then it depends on which vendor pays more in bribes at the momentFeb 15 18:24
MinceRright, also, underfunded teachers sucking at their jobFeb 15 18:25
MinceR"but i can't learn anything new!"Feb 15 18:25
XRevan86MinceR: Yeah, kinda like that.Feb 15 18:25
cubexyzALT Linux is RussianFeb 15 18:25
XRevan86cubexyz: And it sucks.Feb 15 18:25
cubexyzwe have OpenBSD in Canada, along with Vector LinuxFeb 15 18:25
cubexyzXRevan86, ok :)Feb 15 18:25
cubexyzI've never tried itFeb 15 18:25
XRevan86cubexyz: I've seen ALT Linux once (4.0 School Edition) in 2010, I think.Feb 15 18:26
cubexyzI use FC1 (ancient) and OpenBSD, plus I do a lot of classic computingFeb 15 18:26
cubexyzthis box I'm on now is OpenBSDFeb 15 18:26
XRevan86I've wiped rootfs by apt-get dist-upgradeFeb 15 18:27
XRevan86I just don't know what went wrong.Feb 15 18:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/englobalnewsp/status/567025653195616257Feb 15 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@englobalnewsp: @schestowitz White House threatens to veto http://t.co/f9oCAdKoi4Feb 15 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | White House threatens to veto bill limiting Gitmo transfers - YouTubeFeb 15 18:27
cubexyzI think KDE 3.5.10 had pretty good keyboard support so you could use a lot of different languagesFeb 15 18:28
XRevan86cubexyz: Government doesn't even use LibreOffice.Feb 15 18:29
XRevan86Linux and stuff are just words to get money for them.Feb 15 18:29
XRevan86Talks about government structures moving to Linux are going since 2009.Feb 15 18:30
cubexyzI know Russia had Elektronika series, like BK-0010, which was a DEC cloneFeb 15 18:30
cubexyzso I know some Russians like Unix Feb 15 18:31
XRevan86cubexyz: That's USSR.Feb 15 18:31
XRevan86cubexyz: I know a lot of Russians who like Unix :).Feb 15 18:32
cubexyzElektronika MS-0501 looked pretty goodFeb 15 18:33
cubexyznot sure how expensive it was thoughFeb 15 18:33
cubexyzyes, I guess that must have been USSR eraFeb 15 18:34
XRevan86cubexyz: Yeah.Feb 15 18:34
XRevan86cubexyz: The only Russian (Federation) project I know about is Elbrus.Feb 15 18:35
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus_%28computer%29Feb 15 18:35
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XRevan86cubexyz: Of course, it is used in masses by… no one.Feb 15 18:35
cubexyzI wish we did have an affordable PDP-11 clone in CanadaFeb 15 18:36
cubexyzthere's just FPGA ones, nothing ready out of the boxFeb 15 18:36
XRevan86cubexyz: Trick is that USSR was a different country with different science potential.Feb 15 18:39
MinceRgreatly stunted science potential, thanks to communismFeb 15 18:41
XRevan86MinceR: And you sure we're living in communismFeb 15 18:41
XRevan86I heard it's called capitalismFeb 15 18:41
MinceRthey called it that some of the timeFeb 15 18:42
MinceRthey renamed it like m$ renames their shitFeb 15 18:42
XRevan86MinceR: So, you're saying 80s are the time communism happend to USSRFeb 15 18:42
MinceRi'm not sure i understandFeb 15 18:43
XRevan86and 90s are the time when communism was rebranded to capitalismFeb 15 18:43
cubexyzso you go into a Russia computer store and it's all Windows and AppleFeb 15 18:43
MinceRwell, yes, and it was supposed to have been replacedFeb 15 18:43
cubexyzand some Android I guessFeb 15 18:43
XRevan86MinceR: Soviet science died in 90sFeb 15 18:43
MinceRand then we realized that not much changedFeb 15 18:43
MinceRthanks to putinFeb 15 18:43
XRevan86MinceR: I see a lot of changes.Feb 15 18:43
XRevan86Dead science, dead manufacture…Feb 15 18:44
cubexyzhmmmFeb 15 18:44
XRevan86But the name is YeltsinFeb 15 18:44
XRevan86cubexyz: And some FreeDOSFeb 15 18:44
XRevan86maybe even GNU/Linux, this also happensFeb 15 18:45
cubexyzXRevan86, there's a little bit of Linux and BSD in very small computer stores in CanadaFeb 15 18:45
XRevan86Acer sells some laptops with LinpusFeb 15 18:45
cubexyzit's definitely a fringe thingFeb 15 18:45
XRevan86cubexyz: Same here, of course.Feb 15 18:45
MinceRXRevan86: i mean, the realization was due to putinFeb 15 18:45
XRevan86MinceR: Realization of what?Feb 15 18:46
MinceRthat practically the same thing as the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the worldFeb 15 18:46
cubexyzLinpus is Taiwanese I thinkFeb 15 18:46
cubexyzI tried it once, wasn't too goodFeb 15 18:46
MinceRand is still non-democratic, still oppressiveFeb 15 18:46
XRevan86> the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the worldFeb 15 18:47
XRevan86HmmFeb 15 18:47
XRevan86United States is a union in a wayFeb 15 18:47
XRevan86and Soviet == CouncilFeb 15 18:47
XRevan86US has one…Feb 15 18:47
MinceRthe USA is a different entityFeb 15 18:47
MinceRand a different kind of threatFeb 15 18:48
XRevan86MinceR: What kind of threat USSR was?Feb 15 18:48
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MinceRa lot could be said about thatFeb 15 18:49
XRevan86First democratic decision in Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_referendum,_1991Feb 15 18:49
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XRevan8676% of Soviet citizens voted for keeping USSR.Feb 15 18:51
cubexyzwow, I didn't know thatFeb 15 18:52
XRevan86But oppressive USSR government desided not to listen.Feb 15 18:52
MinceRthere still exist plenty of people in hungary who are deluded enough to believe that life was better under that empireFeb 15 18:52
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MinceRno wonder hungary is dying.Feb 15 18:52
MinceRthey put a new dictatorship in place of the old one, after 20 years of democracyFeb 15 18:53
XRevan86I really know nothing about Hungary.Feb 15 18:53
cubexyzit's interesting to hear what goes on in different countriesFeb 15 18:53
XRevan86cubexyz: It's hard to find good sources of information.Feb 15 18:54
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/Feb 15 18:56
schestowitz"Valentine’s Day is an ancient tradition, mutated from a story of love and devotion by a martyr to a commercial period on the calendar. We all know it’s silly, but it’s fun, and we all love chocolate and roses and…"Feb 15 18:56
XRevan86MinceR: What threat USSR was exactly?Feb 15 18:58
XRevan86I still don't know.Feb 15 18:59
MinceRa military threat as well as a force that tried to force its own brand of dictatorship over ever more countriesFeb 15 19:01
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MinceRand the economies of the oppressed countries were wrecked by themFeb 15 19:01
XRevan86MinceR: Like Iraq?Feb 15 19:01
MinceRfor the sake of religious belief in their anti-economicsFeb 15 19:02
MinceRlike the whole eastern blocFeb 15 19:02
XRevan86and Libiya?Feb 15 19:02
XRevan86or maybe even worse? O_OFeb 15 19:02
XRevan86In GDR people sucked dirt.Feb 15 19:02
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XRevan86East Germany*Feb 15 19:03
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XRevan86Of course, those who were still alive.Feb 15 19:04
XRevan86and all that just because USSR wanted German oil.Feb 15 19:04
MinceRi didn't know about thatFeb 15 19:04
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MinceRdid germany have oil?Feb 15 19:04
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XRevan86MinceR: Me neither.Feb 15 19:05
XRevan86MinceR: s/USSR/US/;s/Germany/$PLACE_A_COUNTRY/Feb 15 19:06
XRevan86MinceR: Okay, even if we assume socialist countries were terrible and awful and now they live like godsFeb 15 19:07
XRevan86MinceR: This is still not a military threatFeb 15 19:07
MinceRthen read up on what russia did in hungary in 1956.Feb 15 19:08
XRevan86MinceR: Stalin's time, I see.Feb 15 19:11
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MinceRwas i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?Feb 15 19:20
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MinceR202051 <@MinceR> was i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?Feb 15 19:25
XRevan86MinceR: hmm?Feb 15 19:25
XRevan86MinceR: I'm reading Wikipedia about the rebellion :)Feb 15 19:25
MinceR:)Feb 15 19:26
XRevan86I see rebels were quite nice guysFeb 15 19:27
XRevan86Wikipedia says something about acid but I can't find a photoFeb 15 19:28
XRevan86> Photographs showed victims with signs of tortureFeb 15 19:29
XRevan86Okay, I don't want to look at thisFeb 15 19:30
XRevan86very… nice… guysFeb 15 19:30
XRevan86> The leaders of all states, including Poland, Yugoslavia, China, which initially welcomed the Hungarian events, agreed that the state in Hungary can be saved only through armed interventionFeb 15 19:32
XRevan86MinceR: This doesn't seem to be a good example of true evilness of USSR.Feb 15 19:34
XRevan86too controversialFeb 15 19:34
MinceRnot according to the USSR and their puppets, certainlyFeb 15 19:34
MinceRthis is a "controversy" like evolution isFeb 15 19:35
XRevan86MinceR: I guess Wikipedia is one of them.Feb 15 19:35
XRevan86MinceR: I didn't quote anything %).Feb 15 19:35
XRevan86everything*Feb 15 19:35
MinceRafaik there is at least one russian nationalist clique that has power over wikipediaFeb 15 19:35
XRevan86MinceR: The most controversial part is what these rebels did.Feb 15 19:37
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/2/2c/Защитники_горкома_ВПТ._Будапешт._30_окт_1956.jpgFeb 15 19:37
MinceRof course, everyone who dares oppose the Holy Russian Empire must be a devil.Feb 15 19:38
schestowitzhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/07/1207471/-Thanks-to-abstinence-teaching-Elizabeth-Smart-felt-I-m-that-chewed-up-piece-of-gumFeb 15 19:38
XRevan86damn, english version has a different structureFeb 15 19:39
XRevan86hard to find parallelsFeb 15 19:39
MinceRshould have started thereFeb 15 19:39
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schestowitz[19:41] <MinceR> this is a "controversy" like evolution isFeb 15 19:40
schestowitzIt is controversialFeb 15 19:40
schestowitzVeryFeb 15 19:40
schestowitzNot for the Catholic Church thoughFeb 15 19:40
schestowitzas they already accept it, unlike most of the dumb followersFeb 15 19:41
XRevan86I think Russian Orphodox still didn'tFeb 15 19:41
schestowitzThough I think the Church will say, "God started Evolution"Feb 15 19:41
XRevan86Orthodox*Feb 15 19:41
MinceRthe catholic pope might, i'm not sure about the rest of the priestsFeb 15 19:41
schestowitzthey're too busy thinking about the childrenFeb 15 19:42
MinceRlolFeb 15 19:42
XRevan86> There were approximately 213 Hungarian Working People's Party members lynched or executed during this periodFeb 15 19:42
XRevan86English Wikipedia is not much into details %)Feb 15 19:43
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schestowitzThe Soviet Union and the United States are different because of transparencyFeb 15 19:43
schestowitzIn Russia you get thrown out the window if you dare effectively criticise the regimeFeb 15 19:44
schestowitzUS dropped to 49th in press freedomFeb 15 19:44
MinceRand because there's still some degree of freedom of speech and democracy in the USAFeb 15 19:44
schestowitzRussia is almost 200thFeb 15 19:44
schestowitzUS used to be much better, now dropping closer to USSRFeb 15 19:44
MinceRnot always thrown out the window, some people get imprisoned insteadFeb 15 19:44
MinceRsay, for insulting the official cult of the state :>Feb 15 19:45
XRevan86schestowitz: I heard about silencing and stuff but throwing out of the window…Feb 15 19:45
XRevan86schestowitz: Have you heard about Lenta.ru?Feb 15 19:45
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenta.ruFeb 15 19:46
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XRevan86schestowitz: The reason for this replacement is an interview with one of the leaders of Right sector Andrey Tarasenko (from Russian Wikipedia)Feb 15 19:48
XRevan86strange that English one didn't mention thatFeb 15 19:49
XRevan86And former editor-in-chief is not in jail or thrown out of the window but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeduzaFeb 15 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Meduza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 15 19:50
*XRevan86 really doesn't like exaggerations.Feb 15 19:51
*MinceR isn't sure if this is concrete case is what schestowitz was talking aboutFeb 15 19:51
XRevan86http://crunchbangplusplus.org/Feb 15 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-crunchbangplusplus.org | #!++ Coming SoonFeb 15 19:52
XRevan86MinceR: It's the only fresh one I know.Feb 15 19:52
MinceRdoes #!++ use systemd by default?Feb 15 19:53
XRevan86MinceR: No idea.Feb 15 19:53
XRevan86MinceR: It is openbox-based.Feb 15 19:53
XRevan86So in either way it is fixable by installing/removing systemd :)Feb 15 19:53
MinceRi'm not sure about thatFeb 15 19:54
XRevan86MinceR: It's Debian, you know.Feb 15 19:54
MinceRfor example, its display manager might have a hard dependencyFeb 15 19:54
XRevan86Actually, I have no idea what crunchbang used as a DM. Not gdm for sure though.Feb 15 19:54
MinceRlightdm, perhapsFeb 15 19:55
MinceRno, slimFeb 15 19:55
XRevan86I vote for slimFeb 15 19:55
XRevan86:DFeb 15 19:55
cubexyzsurely it's not hard to add the DM you want?Feb 15 19:58
MinceRhopefullyFeb 15 19:59
cubexyzI added icewm to openbsdFeb 15 19:59
XRevan86cubexyz: It is Debian.Feb 15 19:59
MinceRi've heard a ridiculous amount of packages depend on systemd crapFeb 15 19:59
XRevan86+ custom repoFeb 15 19:59
XRevan86trick is to find out what that repo is :)Feb 15 20:00
cubexyzon vector I got a ton of different ones: fvwm, icewm, kde, mwm, ratpoison, twm, xfce 4 and failsafeFeb 15 20:00
XRevan86I know where crunch's wasFeb 15 20:00
cubexyzfailsafe is just X and xterm :)Feb 15 20:00
cubexyzno window manager reallyFeb 15 20:00
XRevan86https://github.com/computermouth/cbpp/tree/master/CBPP_beta_02132015_src/localp uhm…Feb 15 20:01
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XRevan86what I am looking at?Feb 15 20:01
XRevan86> The packages on github and the .iso were solely intended to provide a proof-of-conceptFeb 15 20:02
XRevan86ah, goodFeb 15 20:02
cubexyzthis is what happens when everyone gets too dependent on distrosFeb 15 20:03
XRevan86cubexyz: What do you mean?Feb 15 20:04
cubexyzXRevan86, they get less knowledgeable and a bit lazyFeb 15 20:04
cubexyzold school Linux was a roll your own affairFeb 15 20:04
XRevan86cubexyz: You're talking about systemd or crunch?Feb 15 20:04
cubexyzXRevan86, I'm not really referring to a specific distro, just the fact everyone now expects everything to be 'easy'Feb 15 20:05
XRevan86cubexyz: I don't, I break 'easy' stuff too easily.Feb 15 20:06
cubexyzI put over 100 hours into my first coreboot installFeb 15 20:06
XRevan86I don't know what's wrong with me, I can't work with stuff I don't understand.Feb 15 20:07
cubexyzsometimes you just have to put the extra time inFeb 15 20:07
cubexyzXRevan86, well which distro do you like?Feb 15 20:07
XRevan86cubexyz: From what perspective?Feb 15 20:07
cubexyzuseability, normal day to day workFeb 15 20:08
XRevan86cubexyz: Debian.Feb 15 20:08
XRevan86But I use openSUSE :).Feb 15 20:08
XRevan86because I like the way maintainership is made in it.Feb 15 20:09
XRevan86Debian + Open Build Service infrastructure == distro from my dreamsFeb 15 20:10
cubexyzeverything was going fine with Linux, then Fedora 15, boom, systemdFeb 15 20:12
XRevan86cubexyz: I didn't see Fedora until recently.Feb 15 20:13
XRevan86It's an awful distribution.Feb 15 20:13
XRevan86But I don't see what this has to do with systemdFeb 15 20:13
XRevan86dnf and yum will be awful even without itFeb 15 20:13
cubexyzPoettering works for Red HatFeb 15 20:14
cubexyzit's like systemd central nowFeb 15 20:14
XRevan86cubexyz: I know. I still don't think he broke yum :)Feb 15 20:15
cubexyzwhat's wrong with yum?Feb 15 20:15
XRevan861. terrible way of adding/modifying reposFeb 15 20:15
XRevan862. slow startup with stupid verbose output of what yum plans to do (fixed in dnf)Feb 15 20:16
XRevan863. failure results to dublicate packages, fixable via a separate utilityFeb 15 20:17
XRevan864. all output is just a mess (fixed in dnf)Feb 15 20:18
XRevan865. dnf is not feature-richFeb 15 20:18
cubexyzok, well I'm off Fedora unless you include older versionsFeb 15 20:20
cubexyzFC1 is so old I'm upgrading my source onlyFeb 15 20:20
cubexyzwhat do you think of pkg_add or Portage?Feb 15 20:20
XRevan86cubexyz: I haven't seen pkg_addFeb 15 20:21
XRevan86Portage is complicated and slow, but I can understand why.Feb 15 20:21
cubexyzXRevan86, you might like itFeb 15 20:21
cubexyzThat's what OpenBSD usesFeb 15 20:21
cubexyzalso every repo will eventually disappearFeb 15 20:22
cubexyzunless someone maintains hosting for itFeb 15 20:22
cubexyzof course, the old method was just tarballsFeb 15 20:23
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, I don't put PM on a first place. But Fedora's is so terrible…Feb 15 20:25
XRevan86What else Fedora can propose to compensate that?Feb 15 20:25
cubexyzok, I basically agree, but for different reasonsFeb 15 20:26
cubexyzI'm using slackware based distros and BSD nowFeb 15 20:26
XRevan86different indeedFeb 15 20:27
MinceRyum is unreliableFeb 15 20:27
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, that's a good description of it.Feb 15 20:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600928Feb 15 21:30
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schestowitz"Feb 15 21:30
schestowitzInteresting, it might be worth to check it.Feb 15 21:30
schestowitzMeanwhile yesterday I finally tried Debian Jessie, I installed it from scratch to get the true experience, systemd and all. After taking a lot of time to install, maybe because I used a virtual machine, I booted it and noticed lots of daemons and services up, none known or directly useful to me.Feb 15 21:30
schestowitzSo the gdm login screen appeared and without doing anything but waiting something like an X terminal appeared and gdm got restarted. Waited more and saw that a couple of times more. Tried to login and the same happened in the middle of Gnome startup. Tried with Gnome and Gnome Classic and got the same.Feb 15 21:30
schestowitzHave no idea if this is related to systemd or not, but instead of wasting time trying to debug this I'm more compelled to spend time migrating to OpenBSD.Feb 15 21:30
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MinceR"Journalists and DWN editors reading: please do not link this. We willFeb 15 21:31
MinceRhave another more public release soon :^) Let it be a private valentine "Feb 15 21:31
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5601543Feb 15 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: End of the #m0n0wall project http://m0n0.ch/wall/end_announcement.php #bsd #unixFeb 15 21:31
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schestowitz"That's really sad. I really liked m0n0wall. But I haven't used it myself for quite a long time... It was a good firewall and a router for my needs in the day."Feb 15 21:31
schestowitzAnyone can make a successor to it, like happens with Crunchbang now....Feb 15 21:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597681Feb 15 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "France’s ambassador to Denmark.. police officers who “saved [his] life” in the shooting." http://www.buzzfeed.com/alisonvingiano/copenhagen-shooting?utm_term=.xpMVpXQve&sub=3668607_4986563#.jhr535AAB #surveillance didn't helpFeb 15 21:32
schestowitz"In the sixties Denmark imported people for the working force especially from Tyrkey. After that a a constant stream of people has come here - fugetives, Family reunification and migrants. We are one of the richest nations on Earth, with very good welfare. It is not strange that people want to come here."Feb 15 21:32
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schestowitz"I just talked to one of the employees of a local roast chicken joint (I live in Nørrebro where the moron came from)He said: I don't call him a terrorist, just a young boy who had enough. I am sure he knew who it was. It was 100 m from where they shoot him. And it is true. The young assailant probably knew less about Islam than I do. He simply do what some young men do - go amok. He could have just killed a local pusher and nobody Feb 15 21:33
schestowitzwould have cared. Now it was in the rich part of Copenhagen and targeted at the Swedish artist. That makes a difference for everybody else (and it should). But this guy could have thrown his life away in so many ways."Feb 15 21:33
MinceRit certainly made a difference for the artistFeb 15 21:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CrunchBang rises from the ashes | Tux MachinesFeb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat wants you to contain yourself and yourFeb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 workloads http://t.co/E8TdwKWZgIFeb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqi8nFeb 15 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat wants you to contain yourself and your workloads | Tux MachinesFeb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CrunchBang rises from the ashesFeb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4cHb47k4Z8 (jimlynch.com)Feb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fSWjoNo8tt (www.linuxveda.com)Feb 15 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com | CrunchBang Linux is back from the dead | Jim LynchFeb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqi8pFeb 15 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | CrunchBang rises from the ashes - Linux VedaFeb 15 21:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Edge Of Eternity J-RPG Tribute Now OnFeb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Kickstarter, Has A Linux DemoFeb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/EZEP5yNUCI (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqiaqFeb 15 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Edge Of Eternity J-RPG Tribute Now On Kickstarter, Has A Linux Demo | GamingOnLinuxFeb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenPi review – a Pi of ThingsFeb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AJ3Te2hRsk (www.linuxuser.co.uk)Feb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqiauFeb 15 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | OpenPi review – a Pi of Things | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat wants you to contain yourself and yourFeb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 workloads http://t.co/MHxqeKgrzFFeb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com)Feb 15 22:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqiavFeb 15 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Red Hat wants you to contain yourself and your workloads | ZDNetFeb 15 22:02
MinceRi want red hat to contain themselvesFeb 15 22:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3Feb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/q3CE0uK58O (www.phoronix.com)Feb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqidhFeb 15 22:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3 - PhoronixFeb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As AFeb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Ultrabook http://t.co/baIBUmjjSHFeb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 15 22:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As A Linux Ultrabook (Intel Core i7 Broadwell) Review - PhoronixFeb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqidjFeb 15 22:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As AFeb 15 22:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Ultrabook http://t.co/nxNWxo672sFeb 15 22:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 15 22:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqidmFeb 15 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon Works Great As A Linux Ultrabook | Tux MachinesFeb 15 22:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/IwQDdJtq1qFeb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqierFeb 15 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Some Linux distributions never changeFeb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/yNRSjcV6bm (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqiesFeb 15 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Some Linux distributions never change | Tux MachinesFeb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3Feb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cm5w1WNJ2D (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 15 22:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqietFeb 15 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Three Things That Annoy Me With Using GNOME 3 | Tux MachinesFeb 15 22:25
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'End of the m0n0wall project http://t.co/dNCo2HxIts'Feb 15 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | End of the m0n0wall project | Tux MachinesFeb 15 22:25
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MinceRhttp://economixcomix.com/home/tpp/Feb 16 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-economixcomix.com | | Economix ComixFeb 16 00:06
cubexyzyou get the cheap stuff, but you lose jobs or...Feb 16 00:37
cubexyzyou keep the jobs, and don't get cheap stuffFeb 16 00:37
MinceRand in the end the cheap stuff turns out not to be cheapFeb 16 00:38
MinceRgnFeb 16 00:40
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited '5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not...'Feb 16 01:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 16/2/2015: CrunchBang is Back, OpenPiFeb 16 01:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Reviewed http://t.co/wJ2JqVlukeFeb 16 01:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 16 01:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqjdrFeb 16 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 16/2/2015: CrunchBang is Back, OpenPi Reviewed | TechrightsFeb 16 01:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/200hmMeV4DFeb 16 01:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 01:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqjdsFeb 16 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 16 01:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-PerformingFeb 16 06:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Smartwatch Yet http://t.co/XfNPB4CIY3Feb 16 06:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 06:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqkwdFeb 16 06:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-Performing Android Smartwatch Yet | Tux MachinesFeb 16 06:46
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600929Feb 16 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: devuan is live (preview only) http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.asc http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.shaFeb 16 08:32
schestowitz"I do not care about the systemd vs linux debate but it is nice to have alternatives."Feb 16 08:32
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msbWith friends like that...Feb 16 08:44
msbI think the kernel should be folded into systemd.  Then maybe Linus would wake up and say something.Feb 16 08:49
msbIn fact, just put Windows 10 in there and forget about the kernel.Feb 16 08:51
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgZRIqoq70MFeb 16 09:52
*TweetTuxMachines @jstockd favourited 'Green Bubbles: How Apple Quietly Gets iPhone Users...'Feb 16 10:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/CydeRGF89bFeb 16 11:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 11:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0Feb 16 11:25
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    http://t.co/v3NeKakD2o (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 11:25
TweetTuxMachines @speedytux      Feb 16 11:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqmj5Feb 16 11:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not UbuntuFeb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    http://t.co/L8QsxkFmhS (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines @speedytux      Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqmj6Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 – Prometheus (64bit)Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xhKqJFJ3bp (www.netrunner.com)Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqmj7Feb 16 11:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-PerformingFeb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Smartwatch Yet http://t.co/1lXy9FVguxFeb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gizmodo.com.au)Feb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqmncFeb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYDFeb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqmndFeb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 – Prometheus (64bit)Feb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6uT12eAM11 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 11:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqmnhFeb 16 11:47
msbWow, the comcrap mail server and the whole comcrap website -- comcast.net is down!  But my service is still working.Feb 16 11:56
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msbhttp://www.telesurtv.net/english/telesuragenda/Venezuela-Coup-Thwarted-20150213-0007.htmlFeb 16 12:36
msbhttp://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.htmlFeb 16 12:36
msbhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/britain-and-canada-involved-in-foiled-us-venezuelan-coup-plot/5431523Feb 16 12:36
msbhttp://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11208Feb 16 12:36
msbThe US tried to "regime-change" Venezuela a few days ago!Feb 16 12:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Prediction: 2020 the year of (PC-)BSD on theFeb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 desktop http://t.co/slAkoIDxxZFeb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn46Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Leftovers http://t.co/kA2X0tbCQcFeb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn47Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ApKz9s4IG5 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn48Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially ReleasedFeb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot TourFeb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/E24s8zomzV (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn4aFeb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC eventFeb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wZqWOEr9uy (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn4bFeb 16 13:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux DistributionFeb 16 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot TourFeb 16 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Ruk9jv0xby (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 13:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn4dFeb 16 13:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATEFeb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Edition - Screenshot TourFeb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2YbC9IKzf0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn7wFeb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CuBox-i review – an elegant mini PC which runsFeb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Android, Linux and OpenELECFeb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/M6CgpuCEAMFeb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidauthority.com)Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn7xFeb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What Every Company Can Learn From XiaomiFeb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/r9FpZWBMI1Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.computerworlduk.com)Feb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn7zFeb 16 13:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5Feb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4NTB7kLaar (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8cFeb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially ReleasedFeb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot TourFeb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/HlJPQqLQjH (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 13:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8dFeb 16 13:28
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released with KDE Plasma...'Feb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC eventFeb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rvCFNg2p4p (www.gsmarena.com)Feb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8iFeb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux DistributionFeb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines                 with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot TourFeb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6pC8Uu7NeG (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8jFeb 16 13:29
TweetTuxMachines@Geekkritik      RT @tuxmachines: Meizu teases #ubuntuphoneFeb 16 13:30
TweetTuxMachines                 ahead of MWC event http://t.co/aKf1G69vd5Feb 16 13:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gsmarena.com)Feb 16 13:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8uFeb 16 13:30
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event...'Feb 16 13:30
schestowitzWhen "Cyber Security" means cracking networks of "enemy" nations and "Consumer Protection" means data #surveillance http://www.utahpeoplespost.com/2015/02/white-house-summit-on-cyber-security-and-consumer-protection/Feb 16 13:37
cubexyzok, giving kwort a tryFeb 16 14:17
cubexyzfull report laterFeb 16 14:18
cubexyzthere's actually something rather like Unix v7 in the Linux worldFeb 16 14:23
cubexyzttylinuxFeb 16 14:23
cubexyzhttp://ttylinux.net/dloadPC-i686.htmlFeb 16 14:24
cubexyzI'm hoping to find something minimal but still with XFeb 16 14:26
cubexyz+Feb 16 14:28
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schestowitzg2`: j0Feb 16 18:27
g2`Hello.Feb 16 18:27
g2`Yes?Feb 16 18:27
schestowitzsorry, wrong keystrokes :-)Feb 16 18:31
schestowitzmeant to respond to MinceRFeb 16 18:31
MinceRj0Feb 16 18:32
schestowitz[21:40] <MinceR> it certainly made a difference for the artistFeb 16 18:33
schestowitzIndeedFeb 16 18:33
schestowitzBut that's taking the statement a bit out of contextFeb 16 18:33
MinceR:>Feb 16 18:34
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g2`I joined here based on because "social" was in the topicFeb 16 18:40
XRevan86g2`: hmm?Feb 16 18:41
schestowitzGNU Social?Feb 16 18:41
g2`i joined here after /alis social topic searchFeb 16 18:41
schestowitzChannel #boycottnovell-social is social tooFeb 16 18:41
XRevan86schestowitz: You're still not in GNU social, right? :)Feb 16 18:42
schestowitzI think it was suggested by balzac around 2009 after Fedora had made such a channelFeb 16 18:42
schestowitzXRevan86: well, I used to use identica, whose successor is SocialFeb 16 18:42
schestowitzStatusNetFeb 16 18:42
XRevan86schestowitz: This is past, I'm interested in present :).Feb 16 18:42
schestowitzrunning what was identi.ca at the timeFeb 16 18:42
schestowitzI am no longer active in identi.ca Feb 16 18:43
schestowitzI moved to DiasporaFeb 16 18:43
XRevan86identi.ca is an instance of pump.ioFeb 16 18:43
XRevan86nowFeb 16 18:43
schestowitzafter three people had invited meFeb 16 18:43
schestowitzpump.io does not interest me much (too basic) and Evan didn't give me my data from StatusNet, so I can't migrate to SocialFeb 16 18:44
XRevan86schestowitz: I did tell you that importing data is not implemented anyway.Feb 16 18:44
schestowitzEven if export was possible, that's somethingFeb 16 18:44
schestowitzI can put online, and self-host, what I postedFeb 16 18:45
schestowitzAs I did with Digg when it went KaputFeb 16 18:45
schestowitzand with twitter before it dies, which it will one dayFeb 16 18:45
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/tweetsFeb 16 18:45
XRevan86schestowitz: You can use twitter bridge, by the way.Feb 16 18:46
XRevan86Anyway, today's identi.ca is not StatusNet and so is not it's dataFeb 16 18:46
g2`I'm not that familiar with the boycott novell situation..Feb 16 18:46
XRevan86schestowitz: You actually could export data from identi.ca but only before it migrated to pump.ioFeb 16 18:47
XRevan86StatusNet and GNU social support exporting.Feb 16 18:47
XRevan86schestowitz: And I don't think Evan stores data from back then.Feb 16 18:48
XRevan86http://skilledtests.com/wiki/Statusnet_problems#data_portabilityFeb 16 18:49
XRevan86schestowitz: Does Diaspora* support Atom/RSS?Feb 16 18:49
XRevan86schestowitz: There are ways of automatic fetching of Atom streams in GNU social.Feb 16 18:50
XRevan86https://loadaverage.org/lor this account works in that wayFeb 16 18:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATEFeb 16 18:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Edition - Screenshot TourFeb 16 18:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/KtlUs5Wj5s (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3fFeb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zawlGfEAfP (www.phoronix.com)Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3gFeb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.0 Lollipop Is More Stable Than iOS 8:Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Report http://t.co/71Vewb0jTpFeb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3mFeb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Malta to start government software repositoryFeb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Is6iQWXbcg (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3nFeb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/DmvlOtMepe (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 18:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3pFeb 16 18:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Removing Systemd from Debian (and still runningFeb 16 19:32
TweetTuxMachines                 a desktop) http://t.co/veUTXN3tpQ (lkcl.net)Feb 16 19:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpacFeb 16 19:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYDFeb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpavFeb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Android 5.0 Lollipop has a tiny slight edgeFeb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines                 when it comes to stability"Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/k9VmH7EZDl (www.techtimes.com)Feb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpaxFeb 16 19:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast andFeb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 User-Friendly Arch Linux DistroFeb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Z0VfdD0i8B (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpb0Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Galicia publishes CeMIT classroom managementFeb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 system http://t.co/u1wxMsgbd0Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpb3Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities CorrectedFeb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 in All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IAs95NXvG0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpb4Feb 16 19:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; ButFeb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/E8osEWsSGU (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpblFeb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Removing Systemd from Debian (and still runningFeb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines                 a desktop) http://t.co/oxPxRJVsQnFeb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 19:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpbmFeb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LG's new Android Wear smartwatch, the WatchFeb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Urbane, has an all-metal bodyFeb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/sFljz39f3w (www.gizmag.com)Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpbnFeb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xposed Framework For Android Lollipop NowFeb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Available: What You Need To KnowFeb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5JL99N0DrV (www.techtimes.com)Feb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpboFeb 16 19:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 4.4 KitKat Update Now Available forFeb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Xolo Q1200 http://t.co/jTGaT7UVbQFeb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (gadgets.ndtv.com)Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpdzFeb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lenovo A6000, A5000, P70, S90 and Others to GetFeb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Android 5.0 Lollipop Update SoonFeb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GOimx8zt6W (www.ibtimes.co.in)Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpe0Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu for Phones a realityFeb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BQukn70R5G (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 19:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpe1Feb 16 19:49
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/piYLcaF.jpgFeb 16 19:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best new icon packs for Android (February 2015)Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 #2 http://t.co/w9I3QXiDOe (www.phonearena.com)Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 "customization is one of the main sellingFeb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 points"Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpfsFeb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cut the Rope Is the First Major Game Ported forFeb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/6hTMsPyDIdFeb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpfuFeb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines@brolettolinux   RT @tuxmachines: Removing Systemd from DebianFeb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (and still running a desktop)Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/NOWU8Q3q79 (lkcl.net)Feb 16 20:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpfwFeb 16 20:00
msbComcast is censoring e-mails!  Any e-mail from Comcast containing this URL is never sent.  http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.htmlFeb 16 20:04
msbschestowitz: no bot?Feb 16 20:04
cubexyzdo you get my emails?Feb 16 20:05
msbWhen did you send one?Feb 16 20:05
cubexyzjust nowFeb 16 20:06
cubexyzjust curious if stuff from my mail server gets throughFeb 16 20:06
cubexyzI see your emails thoughFeb 16 20:07
msbI got it.Feb 16 20:08
cubexyzI got your telesurtv.net messageFeb 16 20:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arnold's T-800 Terminator Runs Linux KernelFeb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 4.1, We're All Doomed http://t.co/O6kmn2QmtGFeb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/9RiocPoBooFeb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxveda.com)Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqphyFeb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OSFeb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Devs Say People Should PayFeb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LuzRsexXTe (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 nothing forbids it.Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqphzFeb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Legends Of Eisenwald, A Medieval RPG & StrategyFeb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Game Is Coming To Linux https://t.co/jBXhLzaPdWFeb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 16 20:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpi0Feb 16 20:11
msbcubexyz: yes.  I found which url was censored, and tinyurled it.  Then it went thru.Feb 16 20:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the FedoraFeb 16 20:15
TweetTuxMachines                 family http://t.co/2h5mvIyVoh (www.scrye.com)Feb 16 20:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpiuFeb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Their official site notes that Linux will be aFeb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 platform, and their publisher is theFeb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux-friendly Devolver Digi...Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bo3cYSIIU9 (joindiaspora.com)Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpiwFeb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/mnO14Wru26Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpizFeb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linus Torvalds: I don’t care if TerminatorFeb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 robots run on Linux http://t.co/F7hYruRgy2Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpj1Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OSFeb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Devs Say People Should PayFeb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kfhGEf5TPH (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpj2Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 Officially Released, NotFeb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Yet Ready for 64-bit - VideoFeb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VMMXlf9xAe (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpj3Feb 16 20:16
MinceRsomebody forgot the name "Cyberdyne Systems"Feb 16 20:19
msbAnybody here using Comcast?Feb 16 20:21
MinceRthankfully not meFeb 16 20:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the FedoraFeb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines                 family http://t.co/Jrm9xDCJEzFeb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpkwFeb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OSFeb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines                 with the Latest NVIDIA DriversFeb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kn9s1syrKB (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpkxFeb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; ButFeb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)Feb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpkyFeb 16 20:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities CorrectedFeb 16 20:42
TweetTuxMachines                 in All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 16 20:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AQMgS0bUg6 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpokFeb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #BridgeLinux #Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast andFeb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 User-Friendly Arch Linux DistroFeb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRb (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnome too: http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRbFeb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpolFeb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian Project Reaches 83% Reproducible BuildsFeb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 for Source Packages http://t.co/IcXpRuey8WFeb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 20:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpomFeb 16 20:43
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XRevan86http://habrahabr.ru/post/250707 about russian distrosFeb 16 20:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 16/2/2015: Netrunner 15, Bridge LinuxFeb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jss77NuQ1p (techrights.org)Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprfFeb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OSFeb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines                 with the Latest NVIDIA DriversFeb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rIsy3vAxyi (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprgFeb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why I am a Member of the Open Source InitiativeFeb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QEYsBnBa4M (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprjFeb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/3pm3OTgWuh (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprkFeb 16 20:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/c2wL9ooW3ZFeb 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqqhqFeb 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/znwJAeu5o8Feb 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 23:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqqhrFeb 16 23:04
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cubexyzok, I can report good results for AntiX 13.2Feb 16 23:22
cubexyzdebian based OS, no systemdFeb 16 23:22
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://t.co/k6x9R9Bdmg (www.datamation.com)Feb 17 00:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqr1gFeb 17 00:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Login2truth/status/567491965370261504Feb 17 01:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     gnu linux and in malawi http://t.co/SBNqqxvFJFFeb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (lodahl.blogspot.co.uk)Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqr5oFeb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wk54PkyVyR (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqr5pFeb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Spelling in Malawi http://t.co/CAxixL4JJ7Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqr5qFeb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Dangers of Boutique Linux DistrosFeb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kYESevnmSi (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 01:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqr5sFeb 17 01:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/i9R9towuz7Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrhnFeb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Linux A Labour Of Love?Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrhoFeb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/JjfBm64QyZFeb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrhpFeb 17 02:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     systemd 219 http://t.co/jw2CvLUnYIFeb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrkcFeb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available forFeb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Download, Chromebook Image IncludedFeb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cN9BNdfWG3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrkeFeb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on theFeb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Community, Says Linux FoundationFeb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Y8EY4JCZ5X (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrkgFeb 17 02:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) releasedFeb 17 03:27
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrpzFeb 17 03:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install InFeb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize TasksFeb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6skwD8GX4L (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsngFeb 17 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install In Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize Tasks | Tux MachinesFeb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Project Points to Danger of BoutiqueFeb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Distros http://t.co/3yL0S2S0HgFeb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsniFeb 17 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Project Points to Danger of Boutique Distros | Tux MachinesFeb 17 06:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With YouFeb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Wherever You Go http://t.co/iViCZlwU35Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsuqFeb 17 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever You Go | Tux MachinesFeb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because PrestoFeb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/5gOS8KgoldFeb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsurFeb 17 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto Doesn't Work On Linux? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; ButFeb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/a66qGsD8hI (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 07:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsusFeb 17 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 07:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Elementary OS: A good looking cheap AppleFeb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines                 lookalike http://t.co/uRl771b465Feb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtjkFeb 17 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike | Tux MachinesFeb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon http://t.co/QlisN61LVMFeb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 09:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtjmFeb 17 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon | Tux MachinesFeb 17 09:43
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros http://t.co/kYESevnmSi'Feb 17 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros | Tux MachinesFeb 17 09:43
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Is Linux A Labour Of Love? http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe'Feb 17 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But...'Feb 17 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Linux A Labour Of Love? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google's Android One debuts in PHL, pricedFeb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines                 below P5k http://t.co/TnHNBfAP9yFeb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtqlFeb 17 10:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Where do we stand after 30 years after theFeb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines                 founding of the Free Software Foundation?Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zrQCDx7jDj (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtqmFeb 17 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Where do we stand after 30 years after the founding of the Free Software Foundation? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones NowFeb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Available on PCs http://t.co/jNatXbCa6yFeb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 10:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtqnFeb 17 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:20
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on...'Feb 17 10:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With YourFeb 17 10:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi https://t.co/QDu9nAYAduFeb 17 10:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.adafruit.com)Feb 17 10:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtrcFeb 17 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adafruit.com | Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your Raspberry Pi #piday #raspberrypi @Raspberry_Pi « Adafruit Industries – Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!Feb 17 10:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Radical Idea For More Linux Game PortsFeb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BHjD18j97R (www.phoronix.com)Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines                 "Canonical and Red Hat finance the ports."Feb 17 10:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtryFeb 17 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | A Radical Idea For More Linux Game Ports - PhoronixFeb 17 10:26
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike...'Feb 17 10:26
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With...'Feb 17 10:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon reviewedFeb 17 10:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lW0r2hqi5D (distrowatch.com)Feb 17 10:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqttgFeb 17 10:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever...'Feb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines@miniputing      This is actually quite nice RT @tuxmachinesFeb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With YourFeb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi https://t.co/wTkzVQoj40Feb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.adafruit.com) …Feb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtuyFeb 17 10:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Continues to Attack Software FreedomFeb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Through UEFI http://t.co/QuN3a6M5u4Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org) http://t.co/YU2RYG3ERdFeb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu04Feb 17 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel Continues to Attack Software Freedom Through UEFI | TechrightsFeb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Elementary OS: A good looking cheap AppleFeb 17 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI - TechrightsFeb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 lookalike http://t.co/ZV1OFALUV7Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techzim.co.zw)Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu05Feb 17 11:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/SqEqer8MpYFeb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com)Feb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu06Feb 17 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | The Usability of GNOME | Linux JournalFeb 17 11:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/gaPHO799G1Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu2kFeb 17 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid | Tux MachinesFeb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open sourceFeb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0w8PvpgIgS (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu2lFeb 17 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source | Tux MachinesFeb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let ItFeb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwgFeb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu2mFeb 17 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don’t Let It Kill Android Players Too | TechrightsFeb 17 11:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     systemd 219 http://t.co/WshyjU01xfFeb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (lists.freedesktop.org)Feb 17 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd 219Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu87Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/NvzSfc3AriFeb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (lists.freedesktop.org)Feb 17 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [ANNOUNCE] wayland 1.7.0Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu88Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Using OpenGL with GTK+ https://t.co/cXtSxEzylhFeb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bassi.io)Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu89Feb 17 11:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Linux A Labour Of Love?Feb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lVURJEaLfMFeb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Feb 17 11:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Is Linux A Labour Of Love? « Everyday Linux UserFeb 17 11:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu8aFeb 17 11:35
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Is Linux A Labour Of Love? http://t.co/lVURJEaLfM'Feb 17 11:48
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DaemonFCschestowitz, http://engt.co/1FU17oKFeb 17 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | The NSA hides surveillance software in hard drivesFeb 17 11:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux 4.0Feb 17 12:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PzPnGvfDEI (www.linuxplanet.com)Feb 17 12:02
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #kernelFeb 17 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplanet.com | Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux 4.0Feb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqugbFeb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because PrestoFeb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/obsbOyB5FWFeb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.lifehacker.com.au)Feb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 microsoft silverlight still a cancer on the WebFeb 17 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.com.au | Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto Doesn't Work On Linux? | Lifehacker AustraliaFeb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqugcFeb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Now Open Source Firmware Enters the EquationFeb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gm24wef8E5 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 12:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqugeFeb 17 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation | Tux MachinesFeb 17 12:03
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because...'Feb 17 12:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available forFeb 17 12:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Download, Chromebook Image IncludedFeb 17 12:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/J5ylpU2bsf (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 17 12:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jquhfFeb 17 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for Download, Chromebook Image Included - SoftpediaFeb 17 12:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) released Feb 17 12:15
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aza0Qb03MM (frugalware.org)Feb 17 12:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jquj9Feb 17 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-frugalware.org | FrugalwareFeb 17 12:15
*TweetTuxMachines @whiletrueweb favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'Feb 17 12:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on theFeb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Community, Says Linux FoundationFeb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eStktbW0ty (thevarguy.com)Feb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqun5Feb 17 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the Community, Says Linux Foundation | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyFeb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With YouFeb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Wherever You Go  http://t.co/gieHeNKc14Feb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.makeuseof.com)Feb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqun6Feb 17 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever You GoFeb 17 12:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DNF 0.6.4 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.5 ReleasedFeb 17 12:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oL9cSdw9Xh (dnf.baseurl.org)Feb 17 12:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 0.6.4 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.5 Released | DNFFeb 17 12:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'Feb 17 12:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraphFeb 17 12:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cI7F0ZU4sy (www.phoronix.com)Feb 17 12:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraph - PhoronixFeb 17 12:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/sWzWyVJJWYFeb 17 12:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 12:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVtFeb 17 12:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 12:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Resistance to successors of #!Feb 17 12:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/p8Yxh6ddC4 (crunchbang.org)Feb 17 12:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "It seems, that the passion of the community ofFeb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 #! was too overwhelming..."Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BR6VuTJKYWFeb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk)Feb 17 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk | Digitallofice: #! is dead - Long live #!++Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv3nFeb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will ItFeb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 also see http://t.co/q8fp11QjUFFeb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (androidheadlines.com)Feb 17 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.idigitaltimes.com | First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv3oFeb 17 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-androidheadlines.com | Ubuntu-Powered Meizu Handset Will Be Unveiled At MWC, Company's Official Teaser Confirms | Androidheadlines.comFeb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column Feb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lw6PRkmLLd (www.linuxuser.co.uk)Feb 17 13:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 17 13:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Screenshot Tour of  Bodhi Linux 3.0.0Feb 17 13:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kwnsNEGMoX (news.softpedia.com)Feb 17 13:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv44Feb 17 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Officially Released, Uses the Numix Icons - Screenshot Tour - SoftpediaFeb 17 13:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux GamesFeb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 For Dirt Cheap  https://t.co/Z5wUu4vHY9Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) http://t.co/yEUPCBTkaeFeb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamasutra.com)Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv46Feb 17 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux Games For Dirt Cheap | GamingOnLinuxFeb 17 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamasutra.com | Gamasutra - Press Releases - Steam games for Windows, Mac and Linux – just 25 cents each in the new Trinity Bundle!Feb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     17 years of defending open source: Join the OSIFeb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 today http://t.co/bayC7upQKyFeb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 13:50
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 17 years of defending open source: Join the OSI today | Tux MachinesFeb 17 13:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for OpenFeb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Experts http://t.co/0WNuj0djaUFeb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv4pFeb 17 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts | Tux MachinesFeb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel columnFeb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/alRgoYZqjx (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv4qFeb 17 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column | Tux MachinesFeb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     2+ years with network management in KDEFeb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Gm94nImZnT (grulja.wordpress.com)Feb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv4rFeb 17 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grulja.wordpress.com | 2+ years with network management in KDE | Jan GrulichFeb 17 13:52
TweetTuxMachines@rmsthebot       @tuxmachines You should say GNU/Linux orFeb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU+Linux.Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv6aFeb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Y6v9d7sU19 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv6bFeb 17 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour - SoftpediaFeb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance,Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 this time in the PhilippinesFeb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/q3laUGjTFK (www.phonearena.com)Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YqOkVDli8E (www.gmanetwork.com)Feb 17 14:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv6cFeb 17 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance, this time in the PhilippinesFeb 17 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gmanetwork.com | Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced below P5k | SciTech | GMA News OnlineFeb 17 14:00
*TweetTuxMachines @HandsOnGeek followed @tuxmachinesFeb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Where do we stand after 30 years after theFeb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines                 founding of the Free Software Foundation?Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CgpciLYsmz (opensource.com)Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv76Feb 17 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Interview with John Sullivan, Executive Director of Free Software Foundation | Opensource.comFeb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/SoU4zCz9VyFeb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 17 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid - SoftpediaFeb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv77Feb 17 14:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones NowFeb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Available on PCs http://t.co/YFkeMJ7ZsqFeb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 17 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs - SoftpediaFeb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv7xFeb 17 14:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open sourceFeb 17 14:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7Lj3MmEOVP (joinup.ec.europa.eu)Feb 17 14:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv7zFeb 17 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source | JoinupFeb 17 14:07
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation http://t.co/gm24wef8E5'Feb 17 14:14
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will...'Feb 17 14:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation | Tux MachinesFeb 17 14:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for OpenFeb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Experts http://t.co/Smq6BljUrWFeb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (thevarguy.com)Feb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvhrFeb 17 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyFeb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let ItFeb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwgFeb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (techrights.org)Feb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvc7Feb 17 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don’t Let It Kill Android Players Too | TechrightsFeb 17 14:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Leftovers http://t.co/bnPE3aNWb0Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvkoFeb 17 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Softpedia's Screenshot ToursFeb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Lay4m26NZj (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvkpFeb 17 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Softpedia's Screenshot Tours | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVtFeb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:01
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 17 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:01
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611035Feb 17 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The corporate media, using so-called 'experts', tries to dub #putin 'insane' while calling #assange and #snowden depressed while besiegedFeb 17 16:32
schestowitz"Because US politicians pushing for a nuclear war with Russia are a model of sanity."Feb 17 16:32
schestowitzThey are the "insane we like", or "our kind of insane"Feb 17 16:32
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XRevan86schestowitz: I was wrong apparently, there is a data import in GNU social.Feb 17 16:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth AFeb 17 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Look https://t.co/rgMQU7oKMkFeb 17 18:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 17 18:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqwymFeb 17 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth A Look | GamingOnLinuxFeb 17 18:53
MinceRhttp://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/Feb 17 18:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/jqp6i ]Feb 17 18:56
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MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/strip/2015-02-17Feb 17 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilbert.com | Elbonians Hacked Their Network - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2015-02-17 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open-source software aims to change game forFeb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 smart facades http://t.co/rGxvrp9x5NFeb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqx5xFeb 17 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-source software aims to change game for smart facades | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/WawMIl4I6LFeb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqx60Feb 17 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 17/2/2015: SystemD 219, Frugalware 2.0Feb 17 19:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (Rigel) Released http://t.co/HzzV7k3SgkFeb 17 19:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 17 19:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqx61Feb 17 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 17/2/2015: SystemD 219, Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) Released | TechrightsFeb 17 19:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Pj019nZPXRFeb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxnmFeb 17 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/YaiEg3t5nTFeb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxnsFeb 17 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/XBpVyriDpGFeb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxnvFeb 17 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 PreviewsFeb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 TripleO http://t.co/y0yzy2snWVFeb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxnxFeb 17 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews TripleO | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8BxEhsKvgP (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxnzFeb 17 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015 | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hcOeLZW7kx (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxo1Feb 17 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SUSE Unveils Open Source Enterprise StorageFeb 17 20:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Ceph http://t.co/anodaO8bIDFeb 17 20:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 20:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxo6Feb 17 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Unveils Open Source Enterprise Storage Based on Ceph | Tux MachinesFeb 17 20:46
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Sosumiactually Putin has been dubbed an autistFeb 17 20:56
Sosumibut lolFeb 17 20:56
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/how-omnipotent-hackers-tied-to-the-nsa-hid-for-14-years-and-were-found-at-last/Feb 17 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | How “omnipotent” hackers tied to NSA hid for 14 years—and were found at last | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jqxqs ]Feb 17 20:56
Sosumihas anyone read itFeb 17 20:56
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Sosumiquite a sensational piece for an already known problemFeb 17 20:57
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cubexyzwell it livesFeb 17 20:59
cubexyzgot the ol' HP Laserjet 5N working againFeb 17 20:59
Sosumidefibrillated it? :)Feb 17 21:00
cubexyzhad to turn on the parallel port on one boxFeb 17 21:00
cubexyzcleaned it up, put in a refurbished toner cartridgeFeb 17 21:01
cubexyzit fits in well with all the other old computersFeb 17 21:02
Sosumi:)Feb 17 21:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Enters The ClassroomFeb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/28DQOxDIt2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxwxFeb 17 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Enters The Classroom | Tux MachinesFeb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First fully sandboxed Linux desktop appFeb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oEF8IaEbT4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxx0Feb 17 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app | Tux MachinesFeb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP adds scale to open-source R in latest bigFeb 17 21:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds forFeb 17 21:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 BringsFeb 17 21:44
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schestowitzMinceR: https://twitter.com/TelegraphNews/status/567805786388242432Feb 17 22:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.1 Lollipop Hitting Nexus Devices SoonFeb 17 22:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Ahead of Motorola’s Smartphones!Feb 17 22:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hey, Samsung, LG And HTC—Shunning Android WearFeb 17 22:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The four best lock screens for your AndroidFeb 17 22:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Any app that works with Android Wear now worksFeb 17 22:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2Feb 17 22:47
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TweetTuxMachines                 using Linux as my only OS since 2005"Feb 17 22:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 PreviewsFeb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 TripleO  http://t.co/ZYkRGD1XKU (www.eweek.com)Feb 17 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inspired by Linux, Pivotal to open-source bulkFeb 17 22:54
TweetTuxMachines                 of big data suite http://t.co/jj8GLfHasFFeb 17 22:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds forFeb 17 23:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First fully sandboxed Linux desktop appFeb 17 23:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to theFeb 17 23:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Philippines in April 2015Feb 17 23:02
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TweetTuxMachines                 Android growing there tooFeb 17 23:02
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660Feb 18 00:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/Feb 18 00:11
schestowitz"#openhardware #FTW"Feb 18 00:11
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schestowitz"This is why the Librem laptop I thought was a huge deal, it's creating the first real demand (with $) for Intel to open up the firmware code of their latest chips. That's a huge deal, as open firmware-wise on laptops we're stuck in the freaking Core Duo days right now."Feb 18 00:11
schestowitzAnything with Intel in it is already freedom-hostile by design :-)Feb 18 00:12
cubexyzlibrem is too expensiveFeb 18 00:14
cubexyzbut maybe the price will go down over timeFeb 18 00:15
cubexyzLemote had a Chinese debian-based distro called RAYSFeb 18 00:20
cubexyzso Lemote should work with DebianFeb 18 00:20
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614884Feb 18 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Need #Syriza in #Illinois http://www.thenation.com/article/198073/we-need-syriza-illinois "millionaire governor decrees austerity" #classwar #lootingFeb 18 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenation.com | We Need Syriza in Illinois | The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/jqz5d ]Feb 18 00:23
schestowitz"If austerity is so good then the US can have some."Feb 18 00:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5613031Feb 18 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wars can be construed as "creating jobs". Think of all the stuff that needs to be rebuilt. The "job creator" myth exploits mass ignorance.Feb 18 00:23
schestowitz"That sounds great! Let's create jobs in the US, I have heard there is high unemployment there."Feb 18 00:23
MinceRno, they should work with a distro that caresFeb 18 00:25
MinceRdebian is not such a distroFeb 18 00:25
cubexyzthe corebot devs want intel to drop verified boot in future Feb 18 00:25
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cubexyzthere's a few distros which are based on debian wheezy that should be completely fineFeb 18 00:27
cubexyzwheezy supports amd64, armel, i386, ia64, mips, even s390 :)Feb 18 00:28
cubexyzand no systemdFeb 18 00:28
cubexyzat least antix doesn't use systemdFeb 18 00:29
MinceRgentoo still supports openrcFeb 18 00:30
MinceRslackware still doesn't use cancerdFeb 18 00:30
cubexyzindeed, one of the reasons I use vector linux, based on slackwareFeb 18 00:31
cubexyzI'm still not sure what the deal is with Debian to be honestFeb 18 00:32
MinceRthey jumped the sharkFeb 18 00:33
cubexyzit seems very unlikely the IBM folks would use systemdFeb 18 00:35
MinceRi'm not sure if there are any IBM folks aroundFeb 18 00:35
MinceRthey seem to have sold all the divisions that matterFeb 18 00:35
cubexyzwell, I only mention that because debian has an s390 versionFeb 18 00:35
MinceRthey still have Rational making and selling atrocious crapFeb 18 00:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 BringsFeb 18 00:35
TweetTuxMachines                 DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa Feb 18 00:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa - SoftpediaFeb 18 00:35
MinceRand a few clueless suits cozying up with crAppleFeb 18 00:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/0cRfBfKwIFFeb 18 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 00:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hostkey rotation, redux http://t.co/Gutdvi5eD7Feb 18 00:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 00:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hostkey rotation, redux | Tux MachinesFeb 18 00:36
cubexyzAntiX is based on wheezy, but it's sysvinitFeb 18 00:38
cubexyzso it seems that the default for wheezy is no systemdFeb 18 00:39
cubexyzJessie, the immediate successor to Wheezy, defaults to systemdFeb 18 00:40
cubexyzif you want the old sysvinit you can still have it, but it's not the defaultFeb 18 00:40
cubexyzyou might still have chunks of systemd in there thoughFeb 18 00:41
MinceRwheezy already has some systemd contamination in the form of libsystemd-daemon0 and libsystemd-login0Feb 18 00:42
MinceRbut at least doesn't force systemd as pid1Feb 18 00:42
cubexyzI think you can just: apt-get remove libsystemd-loginFeb 18 00:44
cubexyzI'll check on antix for libsystemdFeb 18 00:44
cubexyzI don't remember seeing it, but I'm not 100% sureFeb 18 00:44
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cubexyzyes, systemd is there but it's not being used by icewmFeb 18 00:57
cubexyzmore research is neededFeb 18 00:57
cubexyz"apt-get remove systemd"Feb 18 00:58
cubexyzok, trying that nowFeb 18 00:58
cubexyzsuccessFeb 18 01:05
cubexyzthere's still a few bits of libsystemd stuff in here, but systemd wasn't necessary for anything I was runningFeb 18 01:05
cubexyzone of the other window managers might need systemd for something, but not icewmFeb 18 01:07
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DaemonFCRyan FarmerFeb 18 01:46
DaemonFCJust now · Feb 18 01:46
DaemonFCBill Hicks on Dan Quayle (who has his "vice presidential museum" here in Huntington).Feb 18 01:46
DaemonFC"Little Quayle Boy...Little Damian. Is that guy Damian? Tell me those blank empty eyes aren't gonna glow red in the near future. 'Stop making jokes about meeeeee! (makes Satanic snorting/growling noise) I'll spell potato any fucking way I want! (snorting, growling) Rioters in LA - Let's nuke 'em! Bush was a pussy! (snorting, growling) He held me back!"Feb 18 01:46
DaemonFCLMAO! Still funny after all these years. Must be because of all the hero worship of the one-term do nothing knucklehead that still goes on in Huntington. What a fucking waste of a town. These people are scum. If you ask me, the worst thing about meth....is that it doesn't kill 'em fast enough. I'm serious.Feb 18 01:46
DaemonFCAnyone...who does that to themselves.... I don't think we lost anything. You know? "Duh! Let's smoke crystal meth! Let's fry our brain and die in six months because we live in a town that could easily be mistaken for one of Satan's anal warts! Woohoo!"Feb 18 01:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why should you consider using a Linux-basedFeb 18 02:20
TweetTuxMachines                 system for music making? http://t.co/WnedxbYMLJFeb 18 02:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.musicradar.com | Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? | Bitwig Studio | Tech News | MusicRadarFeb 18 02:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 17/2/2015:  TripleO, Pivotal Feb 18 02:21
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615391Feb 18 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/why-should-you-consider-using-a-linux-based-system-for-music-making-616276/Feb 18 08:56
schestowitz"I LOVE LMMS."Feb 18 08:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why should you consider using a Linux-basedFeb 18 08:59
TweetTuxMachines                 system for music making? http://t.co/yIbtdqwe8EFeb 18 08:59
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? | Tux MachinesFeb 18 08:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On SteamFeb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GvhzxZkoEb (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 18 09:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | 2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On Steam | GamingOnLinuxFeb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kodi 14.2 Beta 1 Finally Fixes the Scanning ofFeb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Newly Added Episodes and MoreFeb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7Uf3E6Yhj2 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 18 09:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kodi 14.2 Beta 1 Finally Fixes the Scanning of Newly Added Episodes and More - SoftpediaFeb 18 09:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenMorrowind Is an Ambitious Remake of TheFeb 18 09:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind for Linux Feb 18 09:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OpenMorrowind Is an Ambitious Remake of The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind for Linux - SoftpediaFeb 18 09:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How Pebble Became The Cheapest AndroidFeb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Smartwatch Around http://t.co/nokV3W1uMGFeb 18 09:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Android-Based Messaging Apps forFeb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Enterprises http://t.co/ns8KftLagpFeb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.junauza.com)Feb 18 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.junauza.com | Best Android-Based Messaging Apps for Enterprises | TechSourceFeb 18 09:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The KDE 5_15.02 increment contains the KDEFeb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Frameworks 5.7.0, Plasma 5.2.0 and ApplicationsFeb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 14.12.2." http://t.co/8j7dGkouhRFeb 18 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (alien.slackbook.org)Feb 18 09:46
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615018Feb 18 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open Source Enters The Classroom http://talkincloud.com/cloud-computing/02172015/open-source-enters-classroom #education #freeswFeb 18 10:02
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schestowitz"Feb 18 10:02
schestowitzThe author assumes the role of schooling is to prepare students to "enter the workforce" and that they "must ensure they teach students the skills that businesses want".Feb 18 10:02
schestowitzAs an IT teacher, I think that's total bullshit. I have refused to teach proprietary software in my classes since 2001. I don't see my school as a training center.Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz"Feb 18 10:02
schestowitzFor private businesses at taxpayers' expenseFeb 18 10:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5607175Feb 18 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #Systemd from #Debian (and still running a desktop) http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/Feb 18 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lkcl.net | Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz"Today I do not feel like warring about systemd. =)"Feb 18 10:02
schestowitz"So.... which one's better? Emacs or Vi?"Feb 18 10:02
schestowitznanoFeb 18 10:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615220Feb 18 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #systemd https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html "notice the "responses" from the systemd crowd" -iophkFeb 18 10:03
schestowitz"Challenging people's religion."Feb 18 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lists.debian.org | Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jr2le ]Feb 18 10:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611917Feb 18 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Retroactively shielding E-mail from #surveillance is not possible. The #uk has had (for many years) US bases that harvest, retain all mail.Feb 18 10:03
schestowitz"sure, you only eliminate your own access or delete your own copy."Feb 18 10:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660Feb 18 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/Feb 18 10:04
schestowitz";-) that's why they have got this special logo - to surround and thereby highlite the problem... :-/ "Feb 18 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/jqw71 ]Feb 18 10:04
schestowitzSmoking killsFeb 18 10:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611853Feb 18 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Learning from #redhat (and Fedora) staff that Red hat pushes patches from #nsa directly into #linux using redhatcom addresses was shocking.Feb 18 10:04
schestowitz"Playing cover for NSA? That is shocking. Your contact should go to Wikileaks with the evidence. If true, it's a betrayal to the whole free software community."Feb 18 10:04
schestowitz"Feb 18 10:05
schestowitzI would venture a guess that in most of the world outside of the US, the NSA is seen as a completely out of control orwellian nightmare, but as I said, at least the code is open source, documented, versioned and can be traced back to original authors, meaning it's a single-opportunity game: you can try to break the rules, but if we catch you just once, either because of code review or because a customer noticed spyware-like behaviour Feb 18 10:05
schestowitzwhen policing his network traffic, you're out forever.Feb 18 10:05
schestowitzWe use AES, for example, under the same terms/circumstances.Feb 18 10:05
schestowitzThere are much more worrying things like special spyware electronics on hard drives, motherboards and CPUs that aren't as easy to detect or weed out, like UEFI etc.Feb 18 10:05
schestowitzChoose what you worry about carefully: there's a lot more to worry about that there is worry to go around. ;)Feb 18 10:05
schestowitz"Feb 18 10:05
schestowitzCritical flaws do get found, even in FOSS. We need to check where they come from and why.Feb 18 10:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: Nvidia's Android-powered Shield tabletFeb 18 10:08
TweetTuxMachines                 is actually great for gamingFeb 18 10:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KF5 Porting Progress https://t.co/BmdRKFXy73Feb 18 10:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.20 To Land VirtIO 1.0 ImplementationFeb 18 10:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE –Feb 18 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 report http://t.co/azRXO0NsaMFeb 18 10:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE – report • The RegisterFeb 18 10:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GCompris Complex App Ported to Ubuntu forFeb 18 10:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Phones http://t.co/3NWfeolcFQFeb 18 10:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Humble Weekly Bundle: For Lovers Is a BizarreFeb 18 11:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Mix of Japanese Games and Real PillowcasesFeb 18 11:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Humble Weekly Bundle: For Lovers Is a Bizarre Mix of Japanese Games and Real Pillowcases - SoftpediaFeb 18 11:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest WaylandFeb 18 11:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20Feb 18 11:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Mark Shuttleworth clearly feels that whatFeb 18 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 consumers and developers need, they will inFeb 18 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 time learn to want." http://t.co/OCu0Ot4ySwFeb 18 11:43
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TweetTuxMachines                 approach, but will consumers take to it?Feb 18 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NGINX: The secret heart of the modern webFeb 18 11:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NGINX: The secret heart of the modern web | Tux MachinesFeb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta VeryFeb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Soon http://t.co/mV5oqJqZGMFeb 18 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest WaylandFeb 18 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20Feb 18 11:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel http://t.co/DSZFktQArXFeb 18 11:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite?Feb 18 11:45
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Sosumihttp://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_edge_tops_geekbench_results-news-11239.phpFeb 18 15:01
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Sosumithat new exymos powered S6 really promisesFeb 18 15:01
SosumiI just hope battery life is goodFeb 18 15:02
Sosumiand that samsung isn't cheating benchmarksFeb 18 15:02
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MinceRhttp://www.cracked.com/article_22028_3-realities-life-as-gamer-in-modern-dictatorship.htmlFeb 18 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | 3 Shocking Things You Realize as a Gamer in a Dictatorship | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/jr54d ]Feb 18 17:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributionsFeb 18 17:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TCNulVKWFp (www.oregonlive.com)Feb 18 17:56
TweetTuxMachines                 adding antifeatures not good. LOCs not a goodFeb 18 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oregonlive.com | Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions | OregonLive.comFeb 18 17:56
TweetTuxMachines                 yardstick.Feb 18 17:56
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614232Feb 18 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/17/cia-controlling-climate-geoengineering-climate-change #climate #warfareFeb 18 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry | Alan Robock | Comment is free | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jr5j7 ]Feb 18 18:23
schestowitz"#WTF - The only thing I heard about this is NASA and Terraforming a planet."Feb 18 18:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/568114361983569921Feb 18 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Obvious *concept* & suspicion...but Case-in-Point, please.Feb 18 18:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta VeryFeb 18 18:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Soon http://t.co/wlMpiKuDqjFeb 18 18:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very Soon - SoftpediaFeb 18 18:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributionsFeb 18 18:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions | Tux MachinesFeb 18 18:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     11 ways to get involved with Humanitarian FOSSFeb 18 18:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 11 ways to get involved with Humanitarian FOSS | Tux MachinesFeb 18 18:58
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568132157824212992  https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568146863171497984     https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568147223625764864  Feb 18 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: 1st day at work fail RT @schestowitz: "Which moron wrote this brainless sh*t?" Martin Eller, Microsoft programmer about Bill Gates' own codeFeb 18 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz : )) I am sure he didn't! Otherwise I doubt he would have the guts to say so!Feb 18 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz Funny incident anyways & a reminder that is better to ask before criticizing... ; )Feb 18 20:39
cubexyzEller is an old old microsoftieFeb 18 20:52
cubexyza pity the way things went... Unix should have wonFeb 18 20:53
cubexyzit kind of did... but it kind of didn'tFeb 18 20:53
cubexyzAlexis de Tocqueville Institution, funded (of course) by MicrosoftFeb 18 20:59
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cubexyzbtw Eller did say that.. read "Barbarians Led by Bill Gates" written by Edstrom and Eller himselfFeb 18 21:12
cubexyzso technically we had an encumbered Western Electric License for Universities for Unix v5/v6 in 1975Feb 18 21:15
cubexyztwo 9 track 800 bpi magnetic tapes, containing the binary code of Unix, plus source code, user manual, programmer's manual, c reference manual, unix assembler reference manualFeb 18 21:16
cubexyzso you could look at the source, play around with it, write programs on a PDP-11Feb 18 21:17
cubexyzbut you technically could not share code with other peopleFeb 18 21:18
cubexyza giant missed opportunity... Unix is closed off for a number of years, Microsoft rises up and a dark ages of computing occurs, probably until 2002 or soFeb 18 21:19
cubexyzno gcc until 1987Feb 18 21:20
cubexyzand I definitely remember hearing about it back then, but it was mostly the closed source era back thenFeb 18 21:21
cubexyzso yeah, 25 year botch up in the operating system spaceFeb 18 21:22
cubexyzACK, the original compiler for Minix, also closed source at the timeFeb 18 21:24
cubexyzso yes, GNU gcc was a huge step forwardFeb 18 21:24
cubexyz386 chip was released in 1985, so we _could_ have had a FOSS operating system in the 80'sFeb 18 21:29
cubexyzbut what did we actually get? Xenix for $$$ and your c compiler probably cost at least $200Feb 18 21:31
cubexyzthat was in the late 80sFeb 18 21:31
cubexyzI suppose if you were rich you could have had Unix on a PDP-11/45 in the 1970s with all the source code for everythingFeb 18 21:32
cubexyzbut no community, not outside of Bell LabsFeb 18 21:32
schestowitzbarcelona football team is here on tuesday to play man city, so you might wanna watch it. I'll be flying to germany when the game kicks off.Feb 18 22:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5619788Feb 18 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There is something #disturbing about #intel portraying itself as top FOSS player for merely giving self-serving patches to hardware-tied SW.Feb 18 22:06
schestowitz"Welcome to most contributions to the Linux kernel? That's par for the course."Feb 18 22:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015]Feb 18 22:20
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6EoBnPSI76 (www.linuxveda.com)Feb 18 22:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!Feb 18 22:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches PeopleFeb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/hPaYf6sXIYFeb 18 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People Ubuntu Basics | Tux MachinesFeb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,Feb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/8I2GUhPbgJFeb 18 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19, Starting 9 AM CET | Tux MachinesFeb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-drivingFeb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 car project http://t.co/yShLsFMV2ZFeb 18 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving car project | Tux MachinesFeb 18 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Symple Introduces the $89 Planet FriendlyFeb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Linux Web WorkstationFeb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/iIv90tuQ3i (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 23:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation | Tux MachinesFeb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora Comes Bursting With ExtrasFeb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0UeFeni7yY (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 23:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Korora Comes Bursting With Extras | Tux MachinesFeb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle"Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 in its history." http://t.co/6bMwhUDLmFFeb 18 23:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0?Feb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CoLrEn6A6c (linuxgizmos.com) looksFeb 18 23:04
TweetTuxMachines                 likely at this stageFeb 18 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0? ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 18 23:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161604912746496  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161869967568896   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568162070753099776   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163197301202945Feb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Killing in Washington State Offers ‘Ferguson’ Moment for Hispanics http://t.co/jB7ZIUc8dw highly disproportionate use of force by #policeFeb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York TimesFeb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Asymmetric warfare methods used by US military are now being pointed inwards, allowing #us #police to do more or less the same to USiansFeb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Finally, and most obviously, you have to start by building trust, which will necessarily require a transition" https://t.co/HA5ZKjVYc7Feb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/02/17/the-secret-squirrels-pitching-countering-violent-extremism/ )Feb 18 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is Microsoft now providing journalists handouts to spread the lie that Microsoft loves Linux, OSS, etc.? It smacks of that.Feb 18 23:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lightweight/status/568159923676127233  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163670041223168  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568172713157783552   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568173213534068736  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183180387323905Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: If any of this is true, it shows that the Microsoft we know and *don't* love hasn't changed its stripes. http://t.co/AgoS83PHh9Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Reportedly Uses Patent Blackmail Against Android to Force Samsung to Spread Microsoft Spyware (Incorporated Into Android) (Updated) | TechrightsFeb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #gigaom which was paid by #microsoft for secret ads continues to openwash the company. Om Malik, how much does #Nadella bribe you now?Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015] http://t.co/VTAPM7r2t1 very detailedFeb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com | How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #linux fosters cooperation between companies http://t.co/uO6eTcWLbO http://t.co/bUhAr10bgh http://t.co/GgvUop8qVpFeb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Linux Kernel Report: More Contributors Than Ever | Linux.comFeb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | ​Who's writing Linux today? Capitalists | ZDNetFeb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com | More than 80% of Linux kernel development is paid by companies! - Linux VedaFeb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Those in Power learned from experience that (bar framing) by attacking those who publish documents & obey law they just legitimise them moreFeb 18 23:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183713554669568   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183976701140993   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568184152194981888Feb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics http://t.co/IBvnFXCSn9 #freesw #hpFeb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.informationweek.com | HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics - InformationWeekFeb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle" in its history." http://t.co/3sAFzLWSUs #kernel #linuxFeb 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is #Linux heading toward the big 4.0? http://t.co/KdmSvPta3T looks likely at this stageFeb 18 23:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/568185111201492993Feb 18 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz @DefTechPat even worse, it sounds like they just don't care, if a hardcoded password saves them maintenance costs. 😣Feb 18 23:11
*TweetTuxMachines @gagalago favourited '"Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle" in its...'Feb 18 23:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,Feb 18 23:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/1rA3igF9lnFeb 18 23:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com) http://t.co/vSGZFVWsysFeb 18 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19, Starting 9 AM CET - SoftpediaFeb 18 23:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxg.net)Feb 18 23:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | The Next BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Flash Sale Starts Tomorrow At 9 AM CET | LinuxG.netFeb 18 23:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches PeopleFeb 18 23:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/UnpMbJSvqsFeb 18 23:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 18 23:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People Ubuntu Basics - SoftpediaFeb 18 23:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as GoldFeb 18 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Member http://t.co/3Z7M3EnScuFeb 18 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxveda.com) Wall Street betting onFeb 18 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux VedaFeb 18 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 linux as the futureFeb 18 23:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows upFeb 18 23:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Q6CJLVC8QY (www.zdnet.com)Feb 18 23:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows up | ZDNetFeb 18 23:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-drivingFeb 18 23:24
TweetTuxMachines                 car project http://t.co/5GfvJ7eSODFeb 18 23:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving car project ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 18 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora Comes Bursting With ExtrasFeb 18 23:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Korora Comes Bursting With Extras | Reviews | LinuxInsiderFeb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Symple Introduces the $89 Planet FriendlyFeb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Linux Web WorkstationFeb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/sJf9BLbyUS (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 23:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation | Tux MachinesFeb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Should Linux distro developers expect to beFeb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines                 paid for their work? http://t.co/qzvYt5I2SgFeb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (jimlynch.com) what elementaryos does is fine,Feb 18 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com | Should Linux distro developers expect to be paid for their work? | Jim LynchFeb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines                 working was poorFeb 18 23:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7fkFeb 18 23:31
msbcubexyz: I remember a lot of C code being broadcast on Usenet, I think in the 1980s, and archived on Simtel20 at White Sands AFB (I think).Feb 19 00:00
msbcubexyz: It was for Unix.Feb 19 00:00
cubexyzyes simtel20 which originally ran on TOPS-20, but now defunctFeb 19 00:08
cubexyzit's on http://archive.orgFeb 19 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free Books, Movies, Music & Wayback MachineFeb 19 00:09
cubexyzbut archive.org is down at the momentFeb 19 00:09
cubexyzlots of unix v5 era code was lostFeb 19 00:17
cubexyzI've tried to find some for the last 4 yearsFeb 19 00:17
msbI think this open-source code was developed and used by Unix users in universities -- an early Unix community.Feb 19 00:18
cubexyzthere's some usenix tapesFeb 19 00:19
msbcubexyz: Isn't there an alternate archive.org in South America somewhere?Feb 19 00:20
cubexyzmsb, you have a URL for that?Feb 19 00:22
msbcubexyz: I'm looking for one.Feb 19 00:22
msbThe wiki article on archive.org says it has a backup in Bibliotheca Alexandrina in Egypt.  Maybe that's it.Feb 19 00:24
msbarchive.bibalex.orgFeb 19 00:25
cubexyzok, archive.org is back now :)Feb 19 00:28
msbthis is the ancient one -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria  -- destroyed at various times by Romans and Christians.Feb 19 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jr7u2 ]Feb 19 00:31
msbMentioned in _Cosmos_ by Carl Sagan.Feb 19 00:31
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DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10994477_316268991916472_5836528684371541498_n.jpg?oh=be82b3ad750bad1a69a557ae42046822&oe=554B5E31&__gda__=1435272888_4eed01fe71a0008ac746b511b7b843caFeb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is BetterFeb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dTFeOH2JJc (www.gottabemobile.com)Feb 19 00:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is BetterFeb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to DateFeb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pBpDp9U8q7 (www.maximumpc.com)Feb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7uoFeb 19 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maximumpc.com | Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date | Maximum PCFeb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to theFeb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Skies  http://t.co/WyFbLWkSK8 (www.linux.com)Feb 19 00:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr7uqFeb 19 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies | Linux.comFeb 19 00:33
cubexyzdestroyed at various times? Destroyed more than once? Feb 19 00:33
msbcubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#DestructionFeb 19 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/g49b6 ]Feb 19 00:34
msbvarious parts and sets of books.Feb 19 00:34
msbMoslems finished the job in 642, because the remaining books weren't the Koran.Feb 19 00:35
msbJCI religion is the scourge of mankind.Feb 19 00:36
MinceR> religion is the scourge of mankind.Feb 19 00:36
MinceRFTFYFeb 19 00:36
cubexyzI'll settle for some Unix v5 source codeFeb 19 00:36
msbNo -- Wicca is beneficial.Feb 19 00:36
cubexyzUnix version 1 was almost lost, part of it wasFeb 19 00:37
cubexyzthe only reason why we have part of it is that there was a book that had the source code listingsFeb 19 00:38
cubexyzmagtape isn't too great for long-term storageFeb 19 00:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to DateFeb 19 00:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gpPoAimhph (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 00:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date | Tux MachinesFeb 19 00:42
msbPoettering: "Just the other day, some idiot posted a "song" on youtube, a creepy work, filled with expletives about me and suggestions of violence."Feb 19 00:58
msbI can't find it.  Anybody have it?Feb 19 00:59
MinceRnever heard of itFeb 19 00:59
msbhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0aTqsl-vfUFeb 19 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Systemd Blues: Took our thing (Wooo) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jr83c ]Feb 19 01:12
msb"You took our thing and now we ain't got it no more"Feb 19 01:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Systemd Gets An Fsck Daemon/ServiceFeb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/n8NFPxFYvr (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 01:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd Gets An Fsck Daemon/Service | Tux MachinesFeb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to theFeb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Skies http://t.co/2SI1cUhEF5Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr88cFeb 19 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies | Tux MachinesFeb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That RespectsFeb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Google's Material Design http://t.co/Z12CqR8vLeFeb 19 01:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects Google's Material Design - SoftpediaFeb 19 01:32
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MinceRgnFeb 19 01:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 18/2/2015: Linux Report, FlightGear 3.4Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7depUCZN4J (techrights.org)Feb 19 01:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/2/2015: Linux Report, FlightGear 3.4 | TechrightsFeb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That RespectsFeb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Google's Material Design http://t.co/VLdtbhhwjmFeb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8dyFeb 19 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects Google's Material Design | Tux MachinesFeb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/vp2QXHfsA6Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8dzFeb 19 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/hMJz5f5AIrFeb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8e0Feb 19 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/hxwRwJGRRNFeb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8e1Feb 19 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 19 01:57
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2CJT4UEKKJRKFeb 19 03:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The State of Wisconsin had its budget trashed by Governor Scott Walker to the point that it will have to default now. [ http://ur1.ca/jr94j ]Feb 19 03:57
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msbIt's just a simple business deal.  Rich people give the politicians money, and the pols lower their taxes.  Nobody else matters.Feb 19 04:10
msbBut it's important to remember that Democrat politicians often do similar things to serve the rich, e.g., attacking Palestine, Serbia, Libya, Ukraine, Venezuela.Feb 19 04:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/My9JY4FG68Feb 19 04:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 04:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 19 04:16
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621836Feb 19 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Over time fewer people grasp that Russia lost around x20 more than US in WW2 (people), US came very late to claim landslide victoryFeb 19 08:15
schestowitz__"After having spent considerable time playing both sides of the fence until it was no longer fashionable, and then "winning" by being the only "peaceful" nation to use nuclear weapons."Feb 19 08:15
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621898Feb 19 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To portray #intel as company that deserves credit for #linux rise is misleading. Linux was rising, Intel co-opts it. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IntelFeb 19 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Intel - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/jraln ]Feb 19 08:16
schestowitz__"Well at least they are participating!"Feb 19 08:16
schestowitz__"Microsoft participates too! :)'Feb 19 08:16
schestowitz__The "new Microsoft"Feb 19 08:16
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621993Feb 19 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/810883-dronecode-taking-the-internet-to-the-skies/ #dronecode #linux #freeswFeb 19 08:17
schestowitz__"    "What we essentially did was weaponize Lego with my children around the dining room table," Anderson said."Feb 19 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/jralx ]Feb 19 08:17
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622092Feb 19 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nike is now patenting software http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/fashion/nike-patents-augmented-reality-shoe-design-system-article-1.2118548 #swpats from an evil company (lots of abuses)Feb 19 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nydailynews.com | Nike patents augmented reality shoe design software - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/jram5 ]Feb 19 08:18
schestowitz__"I wonder how this will affect what is happening in the world of Doc M's"Feb 19 08:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux KernelFeb 19 10:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Report http://t.co/DJfY77ndNS (www.linux.com)Feb 19 10:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | 10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux Kernel Report | Linux.comFeb 19 10:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The 8 best desktop environments for LinuxFeb 19 10:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/R7bmoBNsLM (www.itworld.com)Feb 19 10:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | The 8 best desktop environments for Linux | ITworldFeb 19 10:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu EditionFeb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Phone Starts in Less than an HourFeb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7OHcrbAARm (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 19 10:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Phone Starts in Less than an Hour - Update - SoftpediaFeb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release AddsFeb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy FixesFeb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/93TvEbga5n (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 10:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release Adds Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy Fixes - SoftpediaFeb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default DocumentFeb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Viewer App, Released http://t.co/kN49e0kqK6Feb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 10:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default Document Viewer App, Released - SoftpediaFeb 19 10:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appearsFeb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines                 – but we have no idea what’s in storeFeb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/Z0547Imsoa (bgr.com)Feb 19 10:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appears – but we have no idea what’s in store | BGRFeb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Decrypt Android Wear with these 16 essentialFeb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines                 tips and tricks  http://t.co/z65UPQUmDLFeb 19 10:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.digitaltrends.com)Feb 19 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | 16 Essential Android Wear Tips and Tricks | Digital TrendsFeb 19 10:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel build times for automated buildersFeb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Dp1z1KFsfT (www.sirena.org.uk) anFeb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines                 interesting comparison for linuxFeb 19 10:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sirena.org.uk | Kernel build times for automated builders < TechnicalitiesFeb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First PersonFeb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Horror Will Support LinuxFeb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/peUmqHgQOR (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 19 10:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First Person Horror Will Support Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 19 10:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements forFeb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows Management and MoreFeb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/E2mSk5oVLE (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 10:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements for Windows Management and More - SoftpediaFeb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance andFeb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Battery LifeFeb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/zJJd6Gl2Hk (www.techspot.com)Feb 19 10:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrbdiFeb 19 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techspot.com | Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance and Battery Life - TechSpotFeb 19 10:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621937Feb 19 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be infeasible for the #cia to drive around sceptical nations with cameras, photographing everything and harvesting MAC addresses.Feb 19 10:54
schestowitz"Google cars were fined in France for sniffing WiFi years ago"Feb 19 10:54
schestowitzmaybe after the data collected had been copied via PRISM to entities that cannot be fined or have their data erasedFeb 19 10:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622064Feb 19 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "You can see propaganda being manufactured before your eyes" http://fair.org/blog/2015/02/18/most-americans-agree-that-netanyahu-the-only-one-who-can-save-the-puppy-should-save-the-puppy/ #zionism in #bloombergFeb 19 11:06
schestowitz"Feb 19 11:06
schestowitzA CNN/ORC poll suggests that a large majority opposes the invitation. Further, according to the poll, support for Israel is dwindling.Feb 19 11:06
schestowitzhttp://www.cnn.com/2015/02/17/politics/poll-netanyahu-speech-opposition/Feb 19 11:06
schestowitz"Feb 19 11:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621007Feb 19 11:07
schestowitz"Fake fight, fake narrative, to roll-out (announce) 1984. I need Google (what a fun name; maybe they should spell it with goofy fonts and lots of colors...)... I need Google to look after my privacy, and other rights, like a ho needs a pimp's protection and bookkeeping services."Feb 19 11:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621071Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fair.org | Most Americans Agree That Netanyahu, the Only One Who Can Save the Puppy, Should Save the Puppy [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjx ]Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnn.com | CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjy ]Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/google-calls-fbi-s-plan-to-expand-hacking-power-a-monumental-constitutional-threat-20150218 painting self as "resistor"Feb 19 11:07
schestowitz"Holder is a pig."Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nationaljournal.com | Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat - NationalJournal.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjz ]Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ericholder a hypocrite that carries water for Power http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/17/eric-holder-death-penalty_n_6701062.html he doesn't really care about innocents. #drones #risenFeb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com | Eric Holder: Moratorium On Death Penalty 'Would Be Appropriate' Pending Supreme Court Decision [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk0 ]Feb 19 11:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621753Feb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/02/18/bloomberg-joins-linux-foundation-as-gold-member/ Wall Street betting on #linux as the futureFeb 19 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com | Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux Veda [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk3 ]Feb 19 11:08
schestowitz"Barf"Feb 19 11:08
schestowitzIndeed,  but at least it helps LinuxFeb 19 11:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614505Feb 19 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 3 white people planning mass murder in a mall and then shooting themselves not much different from suicide bombing. Canada says not terror.Feb 19 11:08
schestowitz"The media assumes gamers are misogynist terrorists, so I'm not surprised at that. Still doesn't mean we should extend the definition just so that anyone also could be "legitimately" be called terrorists."Feb 19 11:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Beam's Android-powered projector fits in yourFeb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 light sockets http://t.co/iFmxYfzaHDFeb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.engadget.com)Feb 19 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Beam's Android-powered projector fits in your light socketsFeb 19 11:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen SystemsFeb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Might Get a Linux VersionFeb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rExpoDNUOy (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 nice graphics.Feb 19 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen Systems Might Get a Linux Version - SoftpediaFeb 19 11:17
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Linux kernel is the biggest collaborativeFeb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 software project on the planet" Feb 19 11:17
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aSFAlYmvZS (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 11:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | The Linux Foundation Shows Us Just How Massive the Kernel Development Really Is - SoftpediaFeb 19 11:17
msbNetanyahu speech: "it's not hard to get many people to respond the way you want to a loaded question" especially when they've been flooded with 60+ years of lying Zionist propaganda in all their newspapers and broadcast media.Feb 19 12:10
schestowitz"Feb 19 12:21
schestowitzOur first case deals with Mr. Rikard Frgacic.Feb 19 12:21
schestowitzWe sent you some background stuff about this previously but here's a short recap.Feb 19 12:21
schestowitz"Feb 19 12:21
MinceRgeekingsFeb 19 12:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese NewFeb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Year http://t.co/D39b1hCbtW (techrights.org)Feb 19 12:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese New Year | TechrightsFeb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Demand for Linux devs shows seven per centFeb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 increase http://t.co/6nVelQaIzoFeb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 12:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent increase | Tux MachinesFeb 19 12:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/mKmM4yD0y2Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 13:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/eamP4UbThAFeb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 13:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/cXiLWGnfGaFeb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc5fFeb 19 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Very Soon http://t.co/VaYzfl4Fz8Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 13:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc5gFeb 19 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19 Very Soon | Tux MachinesFeb 19 13:04
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schestowitz"We hope that the above comments will be of some assistance to you in evaluating any material that you get about these cases."Feb 19 13:17
schestowitzheh. I got a great article coming...Feb 19 13:17
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schestowitz"What can you tell the waiting public about the Microsoft associates on the board of the Linux Foundation"Feb 19 15:25
schestowitz"Are they on the Board?"Feb 19 15:25
schestowitz"I got this from Tech Rights which was a little unclear on the subject"Feb 19 15:25
schestowitzThey are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worseFeb 19 15:26
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/can-suepo-sue-epo-it-now-seems-so.htmlFeb 19 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Can SUEPO sue EPO? It now seems so ... [ http://ur1.ca/jrcym ]Feb 19 15:26
schestowitz"    A translation of the decision will make very interesting reading, sending EPAs scurrying to read those parts of the Convention which they have in the past ignored. Does the Protocol Article 3(4) restrict the immunity only to those activities of the EPO "strictly necessary for its administrative and technical operation"? We shall see. Interesting reference to the Srebrenica decision as well."Feb 19 15:26
schestowitz" Yes,Merpel, your understanding of the document is correct. An appeal against this decision (to be lodged with the Hoge Raad) cannot result in the overturning of the finding of the Gerechtshof, unless a procedural violation has been committed by the latter. The Hoge Raad can only cassate a decision (beslissing) if the second instance did not apply the law correctly."Feb 19 15:26
schestowitz"This is a great day. "Feb 19 15:26
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:27
schestowitzI think that's the begining of the end of Battistelli reign.Feb 19 15:27
schestowitzWhen it will explode, it will create a scandal bigger that the Edith Cresson scandal (another French) at the European Commission in 1999. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/1425715/Cresson-charged-four-years-after-European-Union-fraud-scandal.html).Feb 19 15:27
schestowitzEdith Cresson only appointed a friend (and it created a scandal).... Battistelli does 100 times worst. Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Cresson charged four years after European Union fraud scandal - TelegraphFeb 19 15:27
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:27
schestowitzAs we read the various comments from the anonymice, keep in mind, dear Reader, that a comment that gives every appearance of coming from an EPO Examiner might in fact be disinformation coming from a crony of the President. And vice versa, of course.Feb 19 15:27
schestowitzAlready there is stuff on the other thread that seems to come from SUEPO head-bangers. Does it really? I'm skeptical. Feb 19 15:27
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:27
schestowitzLOLFeb 19 15:27
schestowitz"They are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worse"Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:38
schestowitzOther correspondants have confirmed thisFeb 19 15:38
schestowitzhere is a Fwd:-Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz"A quick surf shows they joined the Allseen Alliance, which is an IoTFeb 19 15:38
schestowitzgroup, which is managed by the LF.Feb 19 15:38
schestowitzI don't see them listed on the LF members page itself though - so theyFeb 19 15:38
schestowitzmay have joined an LF sub-group but not the LF as a whole (that is,Feb 19 15:38
schestowitzpaying the LF membership etc.).Feb 19 15:38
schestowitzGraham "Feb 19 15:38
schestowitz"Feb 19 15:38
schestowitzyes, indeedFeb 19 15:38
schestowitzDon't forget OpenDaylight and FoundryFeb 19 15:39
schestowitzNeela and RamjiFeb 19 15:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/568436956830380032Feb 19 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz It's amazing that Microsoft still manages to dominate large hardware-oriented corporations. That indicates limited competition!Feb 19 15:50
schestowitzSome hardware companies like HP are stuffed to the rim (at exec level) with 'former' Microsoft execsFeb 19 15:51
cubexyzHP used to have their own minicomputersFeb 19 15:57
cubexyzHP-UX is still being updatedFeb 19 16:00
cubexyzactually the 'old' HP was Unix friendly Feb 19 16:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/johnmarker005/status/568439201655492608Feb 19 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnmarker005: @schestowitz Kindly retweet this amazing Google-patent pending lock screen app:https://t.co/PHjzjXlPOP Video:https://t.co/qChtLcAZJ7Feb 19 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> play.google.com | App Locker with Guest Mode - Android Apps on Google PlayFeb 19 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Smart Screen Plus Application Locker - Why do you need one - YouTubeFeb 19 16:02
cubexyzHP used to support Redhat & SUSE and they had a Unix support program in Greeley ColoradoFeb 19 16:03
cubexyzthat was disbanded in August 1st, 2001Feb 19 16:03
cubexyzPCL (for printers) and SCL (for scanners) was completely supported in Unix/LinuxFeb 19 16:04
cubexyzand guess what happened?Feb 19 16:07
cubexyzSCL was discontinued...Feb 19 16:07
cubexyzPCL 6 was optimized for windowsFeb 19 16:07
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cubexyzI think PCL 6 is still supported by CUPS thoughFeb 19 16:08
cubexyzPCL 6 'enhanced' was designed to match the drawing model of Windows GDIFeb 19 16:08
cubexyzall this was foreshadowed in the Halloween DocumentsFeb 19 16:09
cubexyzso old Microsofties at HP exec level does not surprise me at allFeb 19 16:11
cubexyzalso blame RealTek for some of this nonsense...Feb 19 16:12
cubexyzRTS8891 chip had no programming documentation, typical of post 2001 scannersFeb 19 16:12
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cubexyzon the other side of the coin Epson scanners all just work with LinuxFeb 19 16:15
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cubexyzmaybe the old Microsofties will kill off HP-UXFeb 19 16:23
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cubexyzhere's an idea... why doesn't the FSF start making their own hardware :)Feb 19 16:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/568450899665924096Feb 19 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: Microsoft's Trojan horse strategy to rule the world http://t.co/je6nIlO3oI cc/@schestowitz #TheCloudIsTheAPI #FogComputingFeb 19 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techrepublic.com | Microsoft's Trojan horse strategy to rule the world - TechRepublicFeb 19 16:45
cubexyzjust don't give Microsoft any moneyFeb 19 16:51
cubexyzthere's a simple rule :)Feb 19 16:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/568454886230077440Feb 19 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz I'm thinking "Linux" should engulf Microsoft and take on Mac OS X.Feb 19 17:07
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'The 8 best desktop environments for Linux http://t.co/R7bmoBNsLM'Feb 19 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | The 8 best desktop environments for Linux | ITworldFeb 19 17:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma Media Center at Plasma Sprint 2015Feb 19 17:20
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/85sbn1MtcC (bhush9.github.io)Feb 19 17:20
TweetTuxMachines                 great writing style.Feb 19 17:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bhush9.github.io | Plasma Media Center at Plasma Sprint 2015Feb 19 17:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Demand for Linux devs shows seven per centFeb 19 17:20
TweetTuxMachines                 increase http://t.co/Bfmc4BcE97Feb 19 17:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.itproportal.com)Feb 19 17:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent increase | ITProPortal.comFeb 19 17:20
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-honestly-thought-youd-enjoy-that-superfish-https-spyware/Feb 19 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lenovo honestly thought you’d enjoy that Superfish HTTPS spyware | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jrdrl ]Feb 19 17:25
SosumilolFeb 19 17:25
XFaCEhttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptopsFeb 19 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Lenovo Is Breaking HTTPS Security on its Recent Laptops | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jrdpa ]Feb 19 17:31
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cubexyzwell if you blank out the hard drive and install Linux/BSD/Plan9 etc I assume that gets rid of superfish?Feb 19 18:17
cubexyzhopefully it's not in the BIOS or other firmwareFeb 19 18:18
MinceRindeedFeb 19 18:19
MinceRor if you get a thinkpadFeb 19 18:19
MinceRat least one site said it's only on the consumer modelsFeb 19 18:19
MinceRhttp://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/Feb 19 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]Feb 19 18:19
MinceRthis oneFeb 19 18:19
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cubexyzlooks like OS level stuffFeb 19 18:21
MinceRunlike the NSA malware :>Feb 19 18:23
MinceR(the one in the HDD firmware, that is)Feb 19 18:23
cubexyznastyFeb 19 18:25
cubexyzthey don't even know if it's NSA or black hatsFeb 19 18:27
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cubexyzor both I supposeFeb 19 18:27
MinceRthe NSA _is_ black hatsFeb 19 18:27
cubexyzyesFeb 19 18:28
MinceRthey've been undermining the security of software used by the taxpayers whom they parasitizeFeb 19 18:28
cubexyzone article mentions nls_933w.dllFeb 19 18:28
cubexyzso it seems they are reprogramming the hard drive with customized firmware via some dllFeb 19 18:30
cubexyzcheck your boot loader for tampering Feb 19 18:31
cubexyzif the code is not removal by flashing there's definitely a problemFeb 19 18:33
cubexyzI mean if they _are_ reprogramming firmware, then it's flashable then it's removable tooFeb 19 18:34
cubexyzstoring itself in hidden sectors of the hard drive, that's cleverFeb 19 18:36
cubexyzsurvives disk formatting and os reinstallsFeb 19 18:37
cubexyzalso... this is interesting too... piezo-electric shock sensors know if your hard drive has been droppedFeb 19 18:42
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cubexyzMinceR, not that I'm recommending Lenovo, but they do have one netbook without an OSFeb 19 18:49
cubexyzI hear they are storing windows 8 product keys in the BIOS now, yet another thing to considerFeb 19 18:51
XRevan86cubexyz: SLIC is the name.Feb 19 18:52
XRevan86(but actually it's MSDM)Feb 19 18:52
cubexyzwhen did that start?Feb 19 18:54
cubexyzI assume it's recentFeb 19 18:54
XRevan86cubexyz: VisnuFeb 19 18:55
XRevan86(visnu (russian): be hanged/freezed)Feb 19 18:56
cubexyzlol, ok I thought you might have meant Vista :)Feb 19 18:56
cubexyzthanks for the clarificationFeb 19 18:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19Feb 19 19:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Very Soon http://t.co/kSYbbsv74aFeb 19 19:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19 Very Soon - SoftpediaFeb 19 19:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/T0H1fs1NesFeb 19 19:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 19 19:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and FirstFeb 19 19:01
TweetTuxMachines                 ARMv8 Board http://t.co/i5eRI0GuQ8Feb 19 19:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First ARMv8 Board | Tux MachinesFeb 19 19:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/21DJABO83dFeb 19 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jreezFeb 19 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 19 19:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards soldFeb 19 19:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold | Tux MachinesFeb 19 19:02
XRevan86Oh my, I just remembered what I have seen this morning (GMT+3)Feb 19 19:02
XRevan86http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-mateFeb 19 19:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu – Package Search Results -- ubuntu-mate [ http://ur1.ca/jref6 ]Feb 19 19:02
XRevan86Apparently Ubuntu MATE is now an official flavourFeb 19 19:03
cubexyzXRevan86, I hear you can get the license key (if you really must) via:Feb 19 19:10
cubexyzls /sys/firmware/acpi/tablesFeb 19 19:10
XRevan86cubexyz: That is correct :).Feb 19 19:10
cubexyzmy computer is too old for that stuff anywaysFeb 19 19:11
XRevan86Mine had OEM LinpusFeb 19 19:11
XRevan86cubexyz: Still, I know some stuff about it because my friend gave me an OEM key which I gave to my sister :)Feb 19 19:11
XRevan86cubexyz: Other important thing is that OEM Windows should never be booted.Feb 19 19:15
XRevan86this action locks the key to hardwareFeb 19 19:15
cubexyzwell I try my best not to do that :)Feb 19 19:15
cubexyzin the old days I just assembled white box PCs Feb 19 19:16
cubexyzamazing the influence microsoft has on hardware manufacturersFeb 19 19:18
cubexyzit's insidiousFeb 19 19:18
msbUpgrade of HTTP protocol coming:  http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/18/http2-speed-up-web-browsing-desktop-mobileFeb 19 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | What is HTTP/2 and is it going to speed up the web? | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jrexq ]Feb 19 20:29
XRevan86msb: Indeed.Feb 19 20:29
msbHope it doesn't interfere with Ad-Blocker!Feb 19 20:30
XRevan86msb: I doubt that :).Feb 19 20:30
msbI went to look at an article posted here about desktop environments, and it was showing one page at a time with ads.  The first ad showed bug larvae moving around.  I decided I didn't need to read it.Feb 19 20:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP Targets Cisco and Facebook With New Line ofFeb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Open-Source Networking GearFeb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Scl0GKU1s9 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 20:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HP Targets Cisco and Facebook With New Line of Open-Source Networking Gear | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too ManyFeb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Things Needed Fixing http://t.co/atSokVslDYFeb 19 20:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many Things Needed Fixing | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OSFeb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Designed for Creative PeopleFeb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/by6SxQfD7E (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 20:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A developer's guide to getting into open sourceFeb 19 20:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QToS4UpKK0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 20:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A developer's guide to getting into open source | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lumina Desktop 0.8.2 Released!Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eChU08iRz4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 20:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lumina Desktop 0.8.2 Released! | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://t.co/5vV90nMVBx (www.x.org) X ServerFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.10Feb 19 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.x.org | xorgFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/B6Skfp5HSf (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 20:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | X.Org X Server Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 | Tux MachinesFeb 19 20:46
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/SBUUn87.jpgFeb 19 21:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux KernelFeb 19 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Releases http://t.co/jrUjFmfCoPFeb 19 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 21:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel Releases | Tux MachinesFeb 19 21:20
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DaemonFCRyan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFC5 mins · Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFCA load of bull**** closed down an exit ramp off of I-65.Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFCOn the way to or from the governor's office?Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFChttp://www.jconline.com/story/news/2015/02/19/frozen-fecal-matter-closes-exit-ramp/23685539/?fb_action_ids=316930078517030&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 20 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jconline.com | Frozen fecal matter closes I-65 exit ramp [ http://ur1.ca/jrgov ]Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFCRyan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFC26 mins · Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFCAt least the Republicans are finally regulating some women that they all have first hand experience with. (Except for the ones that prefer to meet young men on Craigslist and try to pay them off with their wristwatch and iPad. *grin*)Feb 20 00:55
DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/02/19/indiana-strippers-face-state-licensing-under-senate-bill/23674199/?fb_action_ids=316885015188203&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 20 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indystar.com | Will bill to regulate Indiana strippers curb sex trafficking? [ http://ur1.ca/jrgp0 ]Feb 20 00:55
MinceRpoosicle :DFeb 20 00:56
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MinceRs/oo/oop/Feb 20 00:57
DaemonFCIt had to be frozen so it would get to Governor Pence good and fresh.Feb 20 01:14
DaemonFCMaybe they were going to make a statue of him out of it.Feb 20 01:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OSFeb 20 01:24
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DaemonFC`Ryan Farmer Whenever I read anything that a religious fundamentalist has said, my brain feels like someone sprayed Vicks Chloraseptic Spray all over it. for about 10 minutes. It's the strangest sensation.Feb 20 01:35
*DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFCFeb 20 01:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 19/2/2015: Hewlett-Packard on CumulusFeb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux, Previews of GNOME 3.16 BetaFeb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/yhwu4lvScU (techrights.org)Feb 20 01:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/2/2015: Hewlett-Packard on Cumulus Linux, Previews of GNOME 3.16 Beta | TechrightsFeb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     XOrg X Server Vulnerabilities Closed in UbuntuFeb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines                 14.10 http://t.co/l0NF5Jlmp0Feb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | X.Org X Server Vulnerabilities Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 - SoftpediaFeb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrgzaFeb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Enlist in the Android Army: A beginner’s guideFeb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines                 to Android http://t.co/UIwKQFHD4bFeb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.digitaltrends.com) defector from apple toFeb 20 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | A Beginner's Guide to Android | Everything to Know | Digital TrendsFeb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines                 android linuxFeb 20 01:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrgzbFeb 20 01:41
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622078Feb 20 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: it is a sad fact that honest, independent sites often perish whereas those that sell out for company/plutocrat thrive, hire, spread moreFeb 20 01:44
schestowitz"Feb 20 01:44
schestowitzAs wealth is concentrated, power is concentrated. The plutocrats control all the wealth, so they control all the advertising and the advertising funded press. Press concentration brings yet more power to those who already have too much.Feb 20 01:44
schestowitzAnti-trust laws and laws against media consolidation in the US have broken down almost completely.Feb 20 01:44
schestowitz"Feb 20 01:44
schestowitzI didn't know there were such laws at allFeb 20 01:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Boxes 3.16 Will Bring a Cool WelcomeFeb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Screen and Numerous ImprovementsFeb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RjjFvn3PKl (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh0jFeb 20 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Boxes 3.16 Will Bring a Cool Welcome Screen and Numerous Improvements - SoftpediaFeb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cheese 3.16 Beta Brings Warning Fixes and CodeFeb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Cleanup http://t.co/TbfOXtW3PRFeb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Cheese 3.16 Beta Brings Warning Fixes and Code Cleanup - SoftpediaFeb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh0kFeb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unity 8 Continues Working Towards ProperFeb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Support http://t.co/QlvfXI85aBFeb 20 01:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 20 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unity 8 Continues Working Towards Proper Desktop Support - PhoronixFeb 20 01:46
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621970Feb 20 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ect are still scumbags without tact. They ask #microsoft mouthpiece Rob Enderle for 'analysis' of #google http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/81722.html?rss=1 [1/2]Feb 20 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxinsider.com | Yandex Asks Russian Authorities to Drop the Hammer on Google | Tech Law | LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/jrh0x ]Feb 20 01:47
schestowitz"Oh, that guy. http://archive09.linux.com/articles/38081 https://web.archive.org/web/20040928043900/http://pl.caldera.com/2004forum/agenda/Enderle_keynote_SCO-Forum2004.html"Feb 20 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive09.linux.com | Linux.com :: Some advice for SCO/Microsoft ally Rob Enderle [ http://ur1.ca/jrh0z ]Feb 20 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Rob Enderle Keynote Address [ http://ur1.ca/jrh10 ]Feb 20 01:47
schestowitz"Feb 20 01:48
schestowitzIn his speech, Enderle said of Groklaw: "The site is supported by a marketing executive whose future is tied to the future of Linux and has strong political skills." I asked Pamela Jones (PJ to Groklaw regulars) if this were true. She replied:Feb 20 01:48
schestowitzI'm not a marketing exec. He makes these things up, I guess. I also, as you know, do not work for or with IBM. I've stated so publicly, including in a letter to the editor for ZDNet, when they asked me to do so the last time this came up.Feb 20 01:48
schestowitzA simple Google search would have cleared up this matter, had he done one, so I see no excuse for him to say reckless, inaccurate things. I don't understand why anyone would say untrue things about someone. It's terribly wrong, in my view, and I feel he should apologize.Feb 20 01:48
schestowitzI'm just me. Groklaw is me. Me plus a large community that cares. Groklaw just tipped the 7,000 member mark, and it is still growing. That's all there is to it. I gather he imagines Groklaw is too good to be by little ole me, a nobody. Surely IBM must be behind it. But they aren't. Groklaw is a voice from the community, and if we are so effective that SCO and their gang feel they must attack Groklaw, I'm glad. But they should stick to Feb 20 01:48
schestowitzthe truth.Feb 20 01:48
schestowitzOf course, a girl could get positively tuckered out trying to teach the SCO group manners. Feb 20 01:48
schestowitz"Feb 20 01:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Files (Nautilus) 3.16 Beta 1 Is Out and ReadyFeb 20 01:51
TweetTuxMachines                 For TestingFeb 20 01:51
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/qMw941ntBW (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 01:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Files (Nautilus) 3.16 Beta 1 Is Out and Ready For Testing - SoftpediaFeb 20 01:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Say hi to cuttlefish! http://t.co/J4eJblsbTwFeb 20 01:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (vizzzion.org)Feb 20 01:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh1vFeb 20 01:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vizzzion.org | Say hi to cuttlefish! « vizZzion.org :: sebas' blogFeb 20 01:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ETC2 Decoding Support In Mesa's Gallium3D ForFeb 20 01:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Freedreno http://t.co/NUwmdLAJUrFeb 20 01:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 20 01:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh1wFeb 20 01:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Getting Fedora 21 on the Raspberry Pi 2Feb 20 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu OS Firmware For The Aquaris E4.5 NowFeb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Available To Download And InstallFeb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/y5BVQxZaAo (androidheadlines.com)Feb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines                 linuxFeb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrheiFeb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution NowFeb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Supports Ubuntu Snappy CoreFeb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Toshiba Laptops To Have Improved Support InFeb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 3.20 http://t.co/kawUmqXp3GFeb 20 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony SmartWatch 3 review: Android Wear can beFeb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines                 remarkably unremarkable http://t.co/zBPpAFFbg0Feb 20 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "PC preloaded with Wind River’s Linux-based IDPFeb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines                 XT IoT gateway stack running on quad- orFeb 20 02:55
TweetTuxMachines                 dual-core Atoms."Feb 20 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/0uROvL2i8dFeb 20 02:55
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DaemonFCControlled Opposition says:Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFCWhy should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos. Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFCIf we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFCControlled Opposition says:Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFCWhy should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos. Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFCIf we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFCoopsFeb 20 03:44
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFCDid you meet an 18 year old man in a hotel room for a really good time while being an outspoken anti-gay Republican? :)Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFCIt's not really the part about meeting an 18 year old in a hotel room that bothers me. I mean, 18 year olds know what they're doing. He knew he was going to have some Republican's nasty old balls all over him, and that was his choice. Eww. It's the whole anti-gay Republican part. Be one or the other. You know? :)Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFCThen, to top it all off, he got away with the "I spoke with God and he says I've been forgiven." thing, and the people who voted for him because he was sponsoring the anti-gay marriage amendment idea re-elected him.Feb 20 03:44
DaemonFCOf course, that was before the state went to court and got the gay marriage ban thrown out as unconstitutional. Now they're not even debating passing the amendment because they'd rather the entire issue go away without costing the state another $400,000 to defend another unconstitutional ban.Feb 20 03:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/9bIbCR1HmSFeb 20 04:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 04:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution NowFeb 20 04:51
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Supports Ubuntu Snappy CoreFeb 20 04:51
TweetTuxMachines @ColoDeskSpace  http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 04:51
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984Feb 20 09:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984Feb 20 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suffert: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://t.co/kz8JNpKt3a via @schestowitzFeb 20 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.comFeb 20 09:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568665907704131584  https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568666303663357953Feb 20 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz didn't it start with minix? depends how far you want to go I guessFeb 20 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz is it ethical to change tv channel? seems like a no brainer to meFeb 20 09:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     News coverage from linux events (of whichFeb 20 09:19
TweetTuxMachines                 there's plenty at present)Feb 20 09:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wCNBBu7Zoh (www.linux.com)Feb 20 09:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | 10 Great Quotes on PaaS and Containers from Collab Summit 2015 | Linux.comFeb 20 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Getting Things Started at SCALE 13x | FOSS ForceFeb 20 09:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proprietary android apps on a proprietaryFeb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines                 platform? No thanks, BlackBerryFeb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WVdh6RSTk4 (www.reuters.com)Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VX0up7dhsW (recode.net)Feb 20 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | BlackBerry updates software, offers access to Android apps | ReutersFeb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjotFeb 20 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-recode.net | BlackBerry Update Offers Access to Android Apps | Re/codeFeb 20 09:25
*TweetTuxMachines @lapletta followed @tuxmachinesFeb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Handset makers test Android's reignFeb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ROHQp3Poty (registration.ft.com) Feb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines                 negativity about the linux based leaderFeb 20 09:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjouFeb 20 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Handset makers test Android’s reign - FT.comFeb 20 09:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628227Feb 20 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/568499434264403969Feb 20 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: the more we learn about #NSA/#GCHQ exploits, the more I'm amazed at how little they've been able to do with them in fighting crimeFeb 20 09:36
schestowitz"Feb 20 09:36
schestowitz    Big Banks launder drug cartel money, and profit hugely off the police-state (the only three actors the Prohibition War benefits)Feb 20 09:36
schestowitz    Almost all public national 'debt' and bailouts are money handed to private financial interests who then use it to consolidate the economy, and buy public infrastructure from the 'bankrupt' governments (How to be a Fascist 101)Feb 20 09:36
schestowitz    Almost all foreign aid goes to warlords (gives power to the very people who destroy resilient communities)Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz    the CIA funds, arms and trains Al Qaeda/ISIS/ISIL/whatever-Hill-&-Knowlton-tells-them-to-call-their-asset-this-week-to-confuse-the-public, and yet we're supposed to give up our rights, drain our treasure, and go to war - 'cause terroristsFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    IMF and World Bank development plans literally retro-velope economies and societiesFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    "Free Trade" agreements are multi-thousand page documents negotiated in secretFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    Dept of War renamed Dept of 'Defense' right as military might projected offensively across the globe exponentiallyFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    'Federal' Reserve isn't federalFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    Gitmo was supposed to be closedFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    'Mission Accomplished'Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz    Attacked by Saudi extremists, go to war with only secular country in the region who had nothing to do with anythingFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    'Cost Plus'Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz    "Those WMD's have got to be around here somewhere? Over here? Nope! Under here? Nope!"Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz    "Patriot" ActFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    Parallel ConstructionFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    Operation NorthwoodsFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    False-FlagsFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    Organizations like ALEC draft all legislation (will the Gentleman from Coke please cede the podium to the Senator from BP), and legislators don't even read the bills they pass (and legalize insider-trading for themselves)Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz    Whistle-blowers, journalists and other political/economic enemies are imprisoned, character-assassinated, or murdered and tortured, while all nations point at each other and scream "Abuse!"Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz    The military bulldozes date/fig/pomogranite farms and protects poppy fields/distribution networks in 'peace-keeping' missionsFeb 20 09:37
schestowitz    The Establishment (including GE's MSNBC/Feb 20 09:37
schestowitzMaybe we can stop accepting unaccountable power Elites' justifications at face value...Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz"Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz"Ick....cynicism...I'm going to go back to anticipating my Librem 15 and buying my hobby farm..."Feb 20 09:37
schestowitz"Happy thoughts, positive thoughts, productive thoughts A_A"Feb 20 09:37
schestowitzLibrem won't do enough to correct things, but it's a startFeb 20 09:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5620844Feb 20 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/JamesRisen/status/567911078623068161Feb 20 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JamesRisen: I plan to spend the rest of my life fighting to undo damage done to press freedom in the United States by Barack Obama and Eric Holder.Feb 20 09:39
schestowitz"Yeah, sorry everyone. I swear I don't smoke ganja (lucky for us all)"Feb 20 09:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628334Feb 20 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lenovo’s bundled adware also comes with hole http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptops back door? #lenovo #thinkpad #chinaFeb 20 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thenextweb.com | Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]Feb 20 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org | Lenovo Is Breaking HTTPS Security on its Recent Laptops | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jrdpa ]Feb 20 09:39
schestowitz"Only available for Windows?"Feb 20 09:39
schestowitzAnother Windows exclusiveFeb 20 09:39
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Handset makers test Android's reign http://t.co/ROHQp3Poty negativity...'Feb 20 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Handset makers test Android’s reign - FT.comFeb 20 09:43
*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'News coverage from linux events (of which there's...'Feb 20 09:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     All Ubuntu Phones Are Now Sold Out, Says BQ onFeb 20 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Twitter http://t.co/QhaX2tF3OwFeb 20 09:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | All Ubuntu Phones Are Now Sold Out, Says BQ on Twitter - SoftpediaFeb 20 09:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peterelvidge/status/568709604495863808Feb 20 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@peterelvidge: @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/kfigt5KAD9… http://t.co/w7oWhlDcp3Feb 20 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> t.co | t.co / TwitterFeb 20 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> pixelartistpete.wordpress.com | @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/HjFtv5r5MQ #debian #futurestudio #gnu #linux #art | Epic Pixel Art By Peter ElvidgeFeb 20 09:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OSFeb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Designed for Creative PeopleFeb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jLrOo6zdMU (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjxhFeb 20 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People - SoftpediaFeb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards soldFeb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LiW5Wr139f (www.zdnet.com)Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9FIx2BopMD (www.theinquirer.net)Feb 20 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold | ZDNetFeb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjxkFeb 20 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 models sold as total sales hit five million- The InquirerFeb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On LinuxFeb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/um3b8jykFS (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjxlFeb 20 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 20 10:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP to Ship Commodity Switches With CumulusFeb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux OS http://t.co/FmMA3m8tGMFeb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.datacenterknowledge.com)Feb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cKtc4XS0EC (bits.blogs.nytimes.com)Feb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pSCbW09PvoFeb 20 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datacenterknowledge.com | HP to Ship Commodity Switches With Cumulus Linux OS | Data Center KnowledgeFeb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com)Feb 20 10:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York TimesFeb 20 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com | HP Announces Linux Powered Open Networking SwitchesFeb 20 10:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and FirstFeb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 ARMv8 Board http://t.co/lUgtrC9jYuFeb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com) http://t.co/wnfApGOgt1Feb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (mrpogson.com)Feb 20 10:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First ARMv8 Board | Linux.comFeb 20 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Hmmmm… 96Boards Could Be To ARM What ATX Was To x86 | Robert PogsonFeb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In ForFeb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Snappy Ubuntu http://t.co/jU60NbszvvFeb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.forbes.com)  http://t.co/JonJFiRSvDFeb 20 10:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In For Snappy Ubuntu - ForbesFeb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.canadianreviewer.com)Feb 20 10:13
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.canadianreviewer.com | Sales of Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition smartphone begin in EU - Canadian Reviewer - Reviews, News and Opinion with a Canadian PerspectiveFeb 20 10:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too ManyFeb 20 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Things Needed Fixing http://t.co/UEtM7ZN10AFeb 20 10:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many Things Needed Fixing - SoftpediaFeb 20 10:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Qt 5.5 is expected to ship in about twoFeb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 months" http://t.co/TsJKjqcwn4Feb 20 10:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 20 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Qt 5.5 Features: Many Exciting Improvements - PhoronixFeb 20 10:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chainsaw Warrior  Lords of the Night Board GameFeb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Lands On Steam for LinuxFeb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/28J1SNoCc5 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrk3iFeb 20 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Chainsaw Warrior: Lords of the Night Board Game Lands on Steam for Linux - SoftpediaFeb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Wear 5.0.2 Update Starts Rolling OutFeb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 With Some Google Fit Fixes In TowFeb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/mG8qf2QAci (www.androidpolice.com)Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrk3jFeb 20 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Android Wear 5.0.2 Update Starts Rolling Out With Some Google Fit Fixes In TowFeb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker Thriving http://t.co/AOyo5SIcvLFeb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (ostatic.com) http://t.co/uNLyPEYuO0Feb 20 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.businesswire.com)Feb 20 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | RightScale's State of the Cloud Survey: Hybrid Clouds, Docker ThrivingFeb 20 10:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrk3kFeb 20 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | Docker Project Partners with Oceanic Society for Open-source-a-thon to Support Whale and Marine Wildlife Conservation | Business WireFeb 20 10:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LinHES R8.3 Released http://t.co/1xHzMvJKWUFeb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linhes.org)Feb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrk5jFeb 20 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linhes.org | LinHES - LinHES R8.3 ReleasedFeb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux KernelFeb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Releases http://t.co/R1xdfIyPRL (www.eweek.com)Feb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/N6vjX8Rqmz (ostatic.com)Feb 20 10:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel ReleasesFeb 20 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | The Linux Foundation Reports on the State of Kernel DevelopmentFeb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS releasedFeb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AcrcBlXlGV (lists.ubuntu.com)Feb 20 10:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS releasedFeb 20 10:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     RAID 5/6 Continues Being Improved For BtrfsFeb 20 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 With Linux 3.20 http://t.co/uNkovwA9CQFeb 20 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 20 11:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkaiFeb 20 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | RAID 5/6 Continues Being Improved For Btrfs With Linux 3.20 - PhoronixFeb 20 11:16
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Chainsaw Warrior Lords of the Night Board...'Feb 20 11:16
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too...'Feb 20 12:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released withFeb 20 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Updated Apps and BugfixesFeb 20 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GnyXE2aCn0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 12:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released with Updated Apps and Bugfixes | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature FreezeFeb 20 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lAOdTUNiQl (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 12:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature Freeze | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Qt3D 2.0 The FrameGraph http://t.co/6xSy0Z1WBvFeb 20 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 12:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt3D 2.0 The FrameGraph | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3Feb 20 12:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pqtjRdQMeU (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 12:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3 | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS IsFeb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8Feb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0c4EO7Zb6I (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkqlFeb 20 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8 | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Final has arrived!"Feb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fywnPElGslFeb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.clearfoundation.com)Feb 20 12:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.clearfoundation.com | 490-clearos-community-660-now-available | ClearFoundation-BlogFeb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xubuntu Lubuntu & Ubuntu GNOME have newFeb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 releases  http://t.co/ES6OqbMCslFeb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/SnUti9J9pYFeb 20 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released with Updated Apps and Bugfixes - SoftpediaFeb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/lcVcGfALP9Feb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu GNOME 14.04.2 LTS Lands with New Kernel and Lots of Fixes - Gallery - SoftpediaFeb 20 12:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Brings Better Hardware Support Thanks to Linux Kernel 3.16 - SoftpediaFeb 20 12:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature FreezeFeb 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/j0apYaLemu (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 12:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature Freeze - SoftpediaFeb 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3Feb 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WDLOEuTTg8 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 12:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3 - SoftpediaFeb 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS IsFeb 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8Feb 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/b6JCIYBLsU (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkrfFeb 20 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8 - SoftpediaFeb 20 12:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releasesFeb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/SNtX3rKZYJ (www.zdnet.com)Feb 20 13:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases | ZDNetFeb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releasesFeb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1WtIfXFXF1 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 13:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases | Tux MachinesFeb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Now Available!Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Ig5djR8SMi (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 13:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Now Available! | Tux MachinesFeb 20 13:09
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Sosumihttps://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/Feb 20 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-firstlook.org | The Great SIM Heist: How Spies Stole the Keys to the Encryption Castle [ http://ur1.ca/jrepr ]Feb 20 15:07
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__martin__news broke regards whole secure access products and solutions trust-breachFeb 20 16:23
__martin__see the correlation between mainstream media's ukraine & tanks / isis propaganda push and flow of Ed Joseph Snow docs?Feb 20 16:25
__martin__it ain't just a gas reserves and vast land waiting for gmo in UA anymore..Feb 20 16:25
__martin__alsoFeb 20 16:26
__martin__dafuq is thisFeb 20 16:26
__martin__http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/02/19/1830232/microsofts-first-azure-hosted-service-is-powered-by-linuxFeb 20 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org | Microsoft's First Azure Hosted Service Is Powered By Linux - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jrm21 ]Feb 20 16:26
__martin__schestowitz: how many sim cards you got with wife? any older than 2010?Feb 20 16:27
__martin__how does one reason out exfiltration and newspeak to his female partner without coming out as a person with mental disorder?Feb 20 16:29
__martin__tried myself hard and failed xDFeb 20 16:29
__martin__btw btw, the utter worst shiet of the week, CNN headline calls those "eathing healthy and demanding non-gmo veggies" with this "Orthorexia nervosa" Feb 20 16:31
__martin__eating*Feb 20 16:31
__martin__</end_rant>Feb 20 16:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 ethical open source hacking tools forFeb 20 17:30
TweetTuxMachines                 business http://t.co/0oekne51ReFeb 20 17:30
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cubexyzwhich OEM would you say is the most Linux friendly?Feb 20 18:01
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cubexyzI guess Acer isn't too badFeb 20 18:03
cubexyznot that I really think Acer laptops are good, they're notFeb 20 18:03
cubexyzbut they do support LinuxFeb 20 18:03
XRevan86cubexyz: I'm using an Acer laptop :)Feb 20 18:03
XRevan86and so is my motherFeb 20 18:03
cubexyzany problems with overheating and shutdowns?Feb 20 18:04
XRevan86cubexyz: nope o_0Feb 20 18:04
cubexyzwhich models? Feb 20 18:04
XRevan86TE11HC and TE69KBFeb 20 18:04
cubexyzI have an acer aspire 5534 which overheatsFeb 20 18:05
XRevan86Notable that on TE69KB stock Linpus goes to kernel panic instantly after booting.Feb 20 18:05
cubexyzhave you ever tried panasonic toughbooks? They work very wellFeb 20 18:05
XRevan86cubexyz: No, never.Feb 20 18:06
XRevan86cubexyz: I'm not an expert in laptops, these two are being chosen because they were the best in price category "truly cheap"Feb 20 18:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3Feb 20 18:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     INTERVIEW: TIM O’REILLY http://t.co/w9ytCaWD7hFeb 20 18:09
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cubexyzXRevan86, I thought about finding a laptop with easily upgradeable video cardFeb 20 18:10
cubexyze.g. a laptop that supports MXMFeb 20 18:10
cubexyzI'm not completely happy with any laptop, but toughbook CF-48 comes closeFeb 20 18:10
XRevan86And I prefer integrated graphics :)Feb 20 18:11
cubexyzI have to consider repairabilityFeb 20 18:12
XRevan86cubexyz: I doubt that's easy to check.Feb 20 18:12
cubexyzyou're right, it's notFeb 20 18:12
XRevan86and impossible to have on thin laptopsFeb 20 18:12
cubexyzit's one of the things I'm always researchingFeb 20 18:13
cubexyzI see lots of info on "least repairable laptops"Feb 20 18:14
XRevan86cubexyz: Let me guess: it's full of macbooksFeb 20 18:14
cubexyzyesFeb 20 18:15
XRevan86https://startpage.com/do/search?query=least+repairable+laptops who could imagine…Feb 20 18:16
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cubexyzone time I asked for a laptop with all replaceable parts, and the guy just laughed at meFeb 20 18:16
cubexyzbuy two :)Feb 20 18:16
XRevan86cubexyz: One can dream…Feb 20 18:16
MinceRone can replace the laptop with another laptop :>Feb 20 18:17
XRevan86Laptops look like a complete freedom on a tablet/smartphone background.Feb 20 18:18
cubexyzI fix laptopsFeb 20 18:18
cubexyzso far I can say Dell Dimension laptops suck :)Feb 20 18:18
XRevan86cubexyz: Maybe it's awesome only in fifth dimention.Feb 20 18:18
cubexyzhahaFeb 20 18:19
XRevan86you just can't see that, you, three-dimentional peasantFeb 20 18:19
cubexyzI ran out of lettersFeb 20 18:19
MinceRi can say everything from dHell sucksFeb 20 18:19
XRevan86Maybe fifth dimention is hell, that would explain that.Feb 20 18:19
cubexyzI'm not sure things are improving on the repair frontFeb 20 18:20
cubexyzprobably it's getting worseFeb 20 18:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/eCXI5VRZzQFeb 20 19:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Enterprise Software Giants Live In An OpenFeb 20 19:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Source World http://t.co/ZrhFjQp01SFeb 20 19:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Untangling the intense politics behind Node.jsFeb 20 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support,Feb 20 19:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPUFeb 20 19:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU Driver Code | Tux MachinesFeb 20 19:01
*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21'Feb 20 19:01
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MinceRhttp://www.whatdoesitmean.com/zzo1.pngFeb 20 19:07
msbMinceR: Good one!Feb 20 19:41
__martin__+1 shared furtherFeb 20 20:05
__martin__on BBSFeb 20 20:05
schestowitz+1Feb 20 20:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GDB 7.9 released http://t.co/YaOg5bMSXGFeb 20 20:19
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MinceRhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235Feb 20 20:27
MinceRKDE is dying.Feb 20 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to theFeb 20 20:32
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__martin__MinceR: atm @ fedora 21 / just curious, selinux+systemd, can you link me any in-depth audit, or I shall trust devs from Brno city?Feb 20 20:35
__martin__schestowitz: so roy, how many sim cards in total within household? gave mine in dec; introduced girl to textsecure, redphone, tox.imFeb 20 20:36
__martin__(pgp/gpg ain't noob-proof yet; nor router flashing)Feb 20 20:37
__martin__gave up*Feb 20 20:37
MinceR__martin__: huh?Feb 20 20:38
MinceRi don't trust fedora anymoreFeb 20 20:38
__martin__well my old HW needs radeon blobs soFeb 20 20:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5631763Feb 20 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So much #superfish blame thrown at #lenovo without pointing out #gnu #linux or #freesw as a way out of this kind of abuseFeb 20 20:47
schestowitz"I'm sitting this one out. I just get tired of telling people the same shit over and over, and hearing the same old excuses in response."Feb 20 20:47
schestowitz__martin__: at least proved you rightFeb 20 20:47
cubexyzdozerland can't get much worse I think :)Feb 20 20:48
schestowitzMinceR: http://m.forums.theregister.co.uk/post/reply/2375127Feb 20 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.forums.theregister.co.uk | Reply to post • Re: If systemd is so bad... • The Register Forums [ http://ur1.ca/jrns9 ]Feb 20 20:50
cubexyzwhen everyone always talks about excel when they really mean spreadsheet, or assume it's ipconfig rather than ifconfig (despite the fact that the Unix world invented ifconfig in 1982)Feb 20 20:51
cubexyznot to mention the death-grip the OEMs seem to be inFeb 20 20:51
cubexyzblame the schoolsFeb 20 20:53
cubexyzthat's where it all startsFeb 20 20:53
cubexyzeverything was mostly copied from DECFeb 20 20:55
cubexyzRT11, copied by Kildall to make CP/MFeb 20 20:55
schestowitz> http://yle.fi/uutiset/coding_soon_to_be_part_of_finnish_schoolchildrens_core_curriculum/7818567Feb 20 20:56
schestowitz> Feb 20 20:56
schestowitz> :\Feb 20 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | Coding soon to be part of Finnish schoolchildren’s core curriculum | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/jrntj ]Feb 20 20:56
schestowitzIs Microsoft involved or just the minister connected to microsoft? Feb 20 20:56
TweetTuxMachines@linmagazine     #Sympleתחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותיFeb 20 21:01
TweetTuxMachines                 לסביבה #אובונטו $89 בלבד http://t.co/Xnv53UcIFwFeb 20 21:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linmagazine: #Sympleתחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותי לסביבה #אובונטו $89 בלבד http://t.co/Xnv53UcIFw דרך @tuxmachines #eWaste http://t.co/gmThvBgirrFeb 20 21:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As DefaultFeb 20 21:01
TweetTuxMachines                 In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid VervetFeb 20 21:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become theFeb 20 21:01
TweetTuxMachines                 coolest Android phone ever?Feb 20 21:01
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cubexyzhttp://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/08/10/0047256/finlands-upper-secondary-school-exams-going-all-linux Feb 20 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.slashdot.org | Finland's Upper Secondary School Exams Going All-Linux - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jrnwq ]Feb 20 21:08
MinceRhttp://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-20-at-1.43.43-PM-1024x559.jpgFeb 20 21:13
MinceR(also a slogan for systemd)Feb 20 21:13
cubexyzthere are alternatives to systemd :)Feb 20 21:13
MinceRand the cult is working on making everything dependent on itFeb 20 21:14
MinceRtheir goal being no choice for youFeb 20 21:14
cubexyzwell they can try but it won't work Feb 20 21:14
cubexyzicewm doesn't use systemd, I checkedFeb 20 21:14
MinceRyetFeb 20 21:15
__martin__schestowitz: thanks, I had a minor conversation with fauno, the philosopher of parabola.nu project; it's in people's neural pathways, pre-learned contexts, proprietary soft is an invisible layerFeb 20 21:16
__martin__yesFeb 20 21:16
__martin__commodity logic, he saidFeb 20 21:16
__martin__pathethic, head of mine faculty giving out free vi$ta8 tablets to excellent understand the most indoctrinated studentsFeb 20 21:18
__martin__or faplets for the most of themFeb 20 21:18
__martin__at least the college's library heard of openaccessFeb 20 21:19
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__martin__infopanels @ campus powered by XP [sic] ... fourteen y'ol OSFeb 20 21:20
cubexyzI can solve the OS problem :)Feb 20 21:21
__martin__better to say, not old but vulnerableFeb 20 21:21
__martin__xDFeb 20 21:21
cubexyzhttp://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-828-operating-system-engineering-fall-2012/Feb 20 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ocw.mit.edu | Operating System Engineering | Electrical Engineering and Computer Science | MIT OpenCourseWare [ http://ur1.ca/jro05 ]Feb 20 21:21
__martin__any of you guys already alienated close frieds, family relatives with refusing proprietary stuff?Feb 20 21:22
cubexyzof course notFeb 20 21:22
MinceRnoFeb 20 21:22
cubexyzwell maybe one friend who is a total microsoft fanboy but we're still friends Feb 20 21:23
cubexyzwe just don't talk about the whole microsoft thingFeb 20 21:23
cubexyzanyways, MIT uses xv6 a lotFeb 20 21:24
cubexyzMIT folks are often ahead of the curve anywaysFeb 20 21:26
cubexyzMIT, Berkeley... they know the scoreFeb 20 21:26
__martin__last summer i was in one flat not further than thirty kilometres from ukraine borders which had a settopbox from deutche telekom's subsidiary company and it was rolling on the magnetic HDD and fans on any occasion of verbal commuication within that living room Feb 20 21:27
__martin__pretty scaryFeb 20 21:27
__martin__complete black box, as wells as their routers for optical line.. never heard of anyone flashing openwrt on that piece of hwFeb 20 21:27
__martin__well*Feb 20 21:28
cubexyzhexedit the firmware and have a lookFeb 20 21:28
__martin__later on in early autumn i demonstrated OTR functionallity of pidgin some three kilometres +- from a military airport where u.s. jets are welcome all the timeFeb 20 21:33
__martin__last friday in a club i asked a policeman out of duty regards their treatment of chronic filesharers like meFeb 20 21:33
__martin__at least he was honest, said he just wanna reach his pension and not give a damnFeb 20 21:34
__martin__xDFeb 20 21:34
cubexyznot too many people understand all their firmwareFeb 20 21:35
MinceRmaybe only the amish do :>Feb 20 21:36
__martin__;DFeb 20 21:36
cubexyzmost routers were VXworks or linuxFeb 20 21:40
__martin__tbh, with RMS way of life for three months, am lucky no one called ambulance for me and detached me into rehabFeb 20 21:41
__martin__parents = ??? // thou i printed 'em out snowden doc and short report in their native langFeb 20 21:42
__martin__regards sim cardsFeb 20 21:42
cubexyzit's hard work reverse engineering firmware with no source codeFeb 20 21:46
__martin__so far worst dilemma are CCTVs in a village where father ran for a mayor; he has fb account, uses cracked win7 box and did not took me seriously when i gifted him for his b-day with FSF's e-mail self-defense guideFeb 20 21:48
__martin__with all this i just wanted to demostrate how far into one's life can technology goFeb 20 21:48
__martin__not sure for how much longer i could handle this hermit stance from othersFeb 20 21:49
__martin__thou i hope mr. joseph snow will push some more stuff sooner rather than laterFeb 20 21:49
__martin__</end_rant>Feb 20 21:49
__martin__such an oxymoron; in order to get free thoughts am going from time to time into a barbed-wire fenced reservation for deer and stuff, because disrespecting this private property brings me more freedom than walking the streets under cctv managed in the end within father's reachFeb 20 22:21
__martin__goshFeb 20 22:21
MinceRwhich country is that?Feb 20 22:23
__martin__the best thing is ofc anyways messing into overcrowded human areas where you forget the orwell's animal farm story with time passing byFeb 20 22:24
__martin__MinceR: post-soviet slovakia, near european surveillance hub.. austria (vienn)Feb 20 22:24
MinceRicFeb 20 22:26
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scientesi'm so tired of softwareFeb 20 22:56
MinceRwelcome to the clubFeb 20 22:56
__martin__+1Feb 20 22:56
scientesecho "linux" | cpp -E -Feb 20 22:58
scientes^^what a load of crapFeb 20 22:58
scientesthis is 2015 and I still can't name my variable "linux" or "unix"Feb 20 22:59
MinceRthere's a macro by that name that has a value of 1, apparentlyFeb 20 23:02
scientesits part of cppFeb 20 23:02
scientesits even documentedFeb 20 23:03
MinceRprobably so that c programs will know they're being built on/for linux and unixFeb 20 23:03
scientesthere is __linux__ for thatFeb 20 23:03
MinceRindeedFeb 20 23:03
MinceRi wonder why there are these undecorated versionsFeb 20 23:03
scientesthe cause me confusing bugsFeb 20 23:04
MinceRwhat's the purpose of a variable called that, though?Feb 20 23:05
cubexyzI don't think you can name an executable 'test' eitherFeb 20 23:06
MinceRi'm pretty sure you can, as there already is such an executable :>Feb 20 23:06
MinceRdoesn't make much sense to name another the same way, thoughFeb 20 23:06
cubexyzI think ld would complainFeb 20 23:07
cubexyzoh wait a secFeb 20 23:07
cubexyzI might have a directory testFeb 20 23:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For LinuxFeb 20 23:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video OverviewFeb 20 23:07
TweetTuxMachines                 and Screenshot Tours http://t.co/HrxxLzrPx3Feb 20 23:07
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cubexyzso it wouldn't try to overwrite the directory :)Feb 20 23:08
cubexyzI remember one guy overwrote his wp.com file because his filename was wp.com Feb 20 23:09
cubexyzevery system has these types of thingsFeb 20 23:09
cubexyzin the olden days there was stroppingFeb 20 23:13
cubexyzbtw, if you were to use int linux; in unix v5 cc it would work :)Feb 20 23:20
cubexyzMinceR, you might find this interesting:Feb 20 23:32
cubexyzhttp://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/Feb 20 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkcl.net | Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]Feb 20 23:32
cubexyzthat's Jessie of courseFeb 20 23:33
cubexyzwheezy shouldn't be as difficultFeb 20 23:33
MinceRi've looked itFeb 20 23:36
MinceRhis related post on debian-user (?) was more interesting, though :)Feb 20 23:36
cubexyzyou have a link for that?Feb 20 23:37
MinceRhttps://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.htmlFeb 20 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jr2le ]Feb 20 23:42
MinceRthread starter: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00641.htmlFeb 20 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jros7 ]Feb 20 23:43
cubexyzok, Luke Leighton is a bit pessimistic here... but since he used Debian as his main distro I can see his concernFeb 20 23:47
cubexyzthere is no way are all the linux distros using systemd Feb 20 23:47
cubexyzs/are/that/Feb 20 23:47
MinceRit might happenFeb 20 23:47
MinceRconsidering what kde is doing, for exampleFeb 20 23:48
cubexyzno way... I'll make my own distro first :)Feb 20 23:48
MinceRsure, but what applications will be in it?Feb 20 23:48
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cubexyzwell anything I want... firefox, fbreader, etcFeb 20 23:49
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MinceRthey might even get the bsd-sFeb 20 23:49
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MinceRwho knows, maybe red hat will kill gnu and linux before 2038Feb 20 23:49
MinceRmaybe that's the planFeb 20 23:49
cubexyzalso there is no way in hell AIX or HP-UX will use systemdFeb 20 23:49
MinceRpoisoning the wellFeb 20 23:49
cubexyzthere will be forks probablyFeb 20 23:50
MinceRbut who will write/port applications to them?Feb 20 23:50
cubexyzas long as you have the toolchain... anyone can do thatFeb 20 23:51
cubexyzI still write PDP-11 code Feb 20 23:51
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cubexyzalso the Motif guys :)Feb 20 23:52
MinceRsure, but can you keep patching secholes in an entire distro?Feb 20 23:52
cubexyzthe old farts will not write systemd codeFeb 20 23:52
scientesits systemd/linux nowFeb 20 23:52
scientesand android/linuxFeb 20 23:52
cubexyzMinceR, I do that already remember?Feb 20 23:52
cubexyzFC1Feb 20 23:52
scientesi write systemd codeFeb 20 23:52
scientesit mostly sucks, but i doFeb 20 23:53
cubexyzok, well of course some people doFeb 20 23:53
MinceRof course it sucks, it's fedoraFeb 20 23:53
cubexyzespecially Red Hat peopleFeb 20 23:53
scientesummm, systemd is used by every gnu/linux distro nowFeb 20 23:53
scientesits only android thats differn'tFeb 20 23:53
cubexyzummm noFeb 20 23:53
MinceRnot everyFeb 20 23:53
scientesyesFeb 20 23:53
cubexyzslackware does notFeb 20 23:53
scientesevery oneFeb 20 23:53
MinceRslackware and its derivatives don't use itFeb 20 23:53
scienteswho caresFeb 20 23:53
MinceRgentoo supports it but uses openrc by defaultFeb 20 23:53
scientesagain who caresFeb 20 23:54
scientesits all systemd nowFeb 20 23:54
MinceRof course this won't help if all the application developers force systemdFeb 20 23:54
scientesnow that ubuntu switchedFeb 20 23:54
MinceRwho cares about ubuntuFeb 20 23:54
scientesand gnome will be nextFeb 20 23:54
scientesyou can't use gnome without systemdFeb 20 23:54
MinceRthe gnome people did the whole thingFeb 20 23:54
cubexyzrightFeb 20 23:54
scientesfor good reasonFeb 20 23:54
cubexyzthat's why there is ten billion other window managersFeb 20 23:54
scientessystemd is awesomeFeb 20 23:54
MinceRi don't miss gnome or kde, but they'll eventually start taking useful stuff away tooFeb 20 23:55
*scientes loves gnome 2Feb 20 23:55
scientes*gnome 3Feb 20 23:55
scientesi don't like gnome 2Feb 20 23:55
MinceRwayland is another fuckupFeb 20 23:55
scientesno it isn't Feb 20 23:55
MinceRit's windows for gnu/linuxFeb 20 23:55
MinceRall that's missing is moving the windowing system into the kernelFeb 20 23:56
MinceRonly it's even more retarded than winblowsFeb 20 23:56
MinceRwinblows at least had pointer capture/warp functionalityFeb 20 23:56
MinceRwayland omits that from the protocolFeb 20 23:56
MinceRand the wayland people are in love with client side decorationsFeb 20 23:56
cubexyztons of distros do not use systemdFeb 20 23:57
cubexyzthere's dozensFeb 20 23:57
MinceRit worked out great in windowsFeb 20 23:57
scientesbut there is less than a dozen distros that matterFeb 20 23:57
scientesMinceR, wayland fixes the huge security problems of XFeb 20 23:57
MinceRyes, and it also fixes the functionality of XFeb 20 23:58
scientesexcept noone uses that fu nctionality anymoreFeb 20 23:58
MinceRexcept plenty of people doFeb 20 23:58
scientesif you are talking about 1980s drawing primitivesFeb 20 23:58
MinceRi'm talking about pointer capture/warp and proper window managersFeb 20 23:58
cubexyzhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributionsFeb 20 23:59
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MinceRx2x, x2vnc and synergy relies on the former twoFeb 20 23:59
MinceRand so do fps gamesFeb 20 23:59
scientessystemd won guys, get over itFeb 20 23:59
MinceRwe'll seeFeb 20 23:59
scienteswayland is nextFeb 20 23:59
scienteslinus torvalds already said systemd wonFeb 20 23:59
cubexyzyou're clueless scientes Feb 20 23:59
MinceRwe'll also see if red hat and crApple also manage to kill *bsdFeb 20 23:59
cubexyzyou think IBM will use systemd? :)Feb 20 23:59
scientesyesFeb 21 00:00
MinceRi think there won't be an IBMFeb 21 00:00
cubexyzI think notFeb 21 00:00
scientesintel is heavily developing systemdFeb 21 00:00
scientesIBM will always be aroundFeb 21 00:00
scientesthey run so much of the economyFeb 21 00:00
scienteslike Wal-MartFeb 21 00:00
MinceRthey've already sold most of the companyFeb 21 00:00
scientesand euro-flight controlFeb 21 00:01
cubexyzit's just userland stuff, anyone can do whatever they wantFeb 21 00:03
MinceRalso, kde does some horrible hack with input to work around wayland's deficiency regarding pointer warpFeb 21 00:03
cubexyzthere's slack/390 for that matterFeb 21 00:03
MinceRbut apparently horrible hacks are cool nowFeb 21 00:04
scientesMinceR, are you aware of how X11 support compositing window managers?Feb 21 00:05
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scientesits a GIANT hackFeb 21 00:05
MinceRi am aware of itFeb 21 00:05
MinceRand i'm not using a compositing window managerFeb 21 00:05
MinceRand it's still not as much of a hack as what i mentioned aboveFeb 21 00:05
MinceRbut apparently the wayland way of fixing things is breaking them even more, and then not fixing anythingFeb 21 00:06
cubexyzsorry, but the Unix traditionalists won't switch to systemd Feb 21 00:08
cubexyzyou'll just see a mass exodus to alternative systemsFeb 21 00:10
scientesexcept systemd is more unix than what came before itFeb 21 00:11
scientesit supports multiseat for exampleFeb 21 00:11
cubexyzyou're just trollingFeb 21 00:11
scientesand now we finially have a proper IPC with kdbusFeb 21 00:12
MinceRmultiseat is a lame excuse to force systemd on us, and it doesn't even workFeb 21 00:12
scienteswhatever, are you contributing?Feb 21 00:12
scientesthen shut upFeb 21 00:12
MinceRno, you shut upFeb 21 00:12
cubexyzfuck off loser :)Feb 21 00:12
scientesthose that do the work make the decisionsFeb 21 00:12
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scientesthats just the way it worksFeb 21 00:12
cubexyzyou don't even know meFeb 21 00:12
scientestrueFeb 21 00:12
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cubexyzI just released a new Unix v5 a week agoFeb 21 00:13
scientessry for being an assFeb 21 00:13
cubexyzyou're lucky I'm not Sokolov, he would have kicked youFeb 21 00:15
cubexyzbut whatever, everyone has an opinionFeb 21 00:15
scientesi was programming but i got frustratedFeb 21 00:16
scienteswith the #define linux thingFeb 21 00:17
cubexyzoh thatFeb 21 00:17
MinceRhave you tried #undef linux? :>Feb 21 00:17
cubexyzguys, I feel I should point out that there's lots of architectures out thereFeb 21 00:17
cubexyzwe are not all x86 Feb 21 00:18
scientesI was developing systemd on ARM for a whileFeb 21 00:18
MinceRindeed, i'm typing this on armv6 :>Feb 21 00:18
scientesarmv7Feb 21 00:18
scientesand i fixed the gold linker on armv5Feb 21 00:18
cubexyzif you like systemd fine, but don't shove it out everyone's throatFeb 21 00:18
cubexyzsome of us use Vax and PDP-11Feb 21 00:18
MinceRwhat i don't get is why don't the systemd/wayland crowd just shut up and use windows alreadyFeb 21 00:18
MinceRit's "designed" around the principles they apparently love so muchFeb 21 00:19
scientesMinceR, what is wrong with kdbus?Feb 21 00:19
MinceRit doesn't belong in the kernelFeb 21 00:19
MinceRit worked as fine as it ever will in userspaceFeb 21 00:19
scientesevery other os has an in-kernel IPCFeb 21 00:19
MinceRso does gnu/linuxFeb 21 00:19
scientesnot trueFeb 21 00:19
MinceRseveralFeb 21 00:19
scientesnow it is zero-copyFeb 21 00:19
MinceRunix domain sockets, mutexes, semaphoresFeb 21 00:20
MinceRshared memoryFeb 21 00:20
scientesbut shared memory is insecureFeb 21 00:20
scientesthe new memfd stuff makes shared memory secureFeb 21 00:20
MinceRgood thing the crap poettering codes up is secureFeb 21 00:20
MinceRoh waitFeb 21 00:20
MinceRsystemd is full of holesFeb 21 00:20
scientesI was amazed that we havn't had an unaligned memory access bug yetFeb 21 00:21
MinceRwith these people at the wheel, we willFeb 21 00:21
MinceRjust like now we have null pointer dereferences in pid1Feb 21 00:21
scientesthats trueFeb 21 00:21
scientespid 1 does a hell of alotFeb 21 00:22
scientesits over a megabyteFeb 21 00:22
MinceRand while they're trying to force dbus into the kernel, they'll take VT support out of the kernelFeb 21 00:22
scientesyepFeb 21 00:22
scientesbut that wont be in pid 1Feb 21 00:22
MinceRwhich will probably make it more difficult to recover from issuesFeb 21 00:22
scientesbut the reasons for it are soundFeb 21 00:22
MinceRapparently the main principle is "let's make it shittier"Feb 21 00:22
scientesa pid 1 crash doesn't crash the system thoughFeb 21 00:23
MinceRi doubt they'll do it in a way that will be worth itFeb 21 00:23
scientesso you will see be able to debug after pid 1 crashesFeb 21 00:23
MinceRi'd rather not have pid1 crash, and fix/restart the service that didFeb 21 00:23
MinceRkdbus is already said to depend on systemdFeb 21 00:24
scientesi've never had it crash when i wasn't hacking itFeb 21 00:24
MinceRso poettering finally gets what he wants: linux depending on systemdFeb 21 00:24
scienteskdbus does depend on systemdFeb 21 00:24
MinceRso much for not breaking userspaceFeb 21 00:24
scientesAFAIKFeb 21 00:24
cubexyzyou're forgetting that anyone can go back and just use an older versionFeb 21 00:24
MinceRyes, and deal with a growing list of known vulnerabilitiesFeb 21 00:25
MinceRwhile these retards work on introducing more of them in the newest versionsFeb 21 00:25
cubexyzsome Nuclear Power stations use PDP-11'sFeb 21 00:25
cubexyzbecause they know it inside and outFeb 21 00:25
MinceRand probably because they don't want a meltdown because poettering had a bad dayFeb 21 00:25
cubexyzthere is no XFeb 21 00:26
cubexyzit'Feb 21 00:26
MinceRwhy, is there X for PDP-11? :>Feb 21 00:26
cubexyzfor Vax yesFeb 21 00:26
cubexyznot PDP-11Feb 21 00:26
cubexyzat least I've never seen itFeb 21 00:26
__martin__gnome os aka linuxd/minwin concerns are legitimate, thou useds live in sandboxed chrome fog these days soon to be cyanogen/minwinFeb 21 00:27
cubexyzX version 6 was microvax... there was never a PDP-11 XFeb 21 00:27
cubexyzIBM RT alsoFeb 21 00:28
cubexyzthat was all started by MIT, DEC and IBMFeb 21 00:29
cubexyzif you know your historyFeb 21 00:29
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cubexyznow some really smart folks ran Plan 9 but it's a research OSFeb 21 00:30
MinceRmaybe i will tooFeb 21 00:30
MinceRif they manage to kill unixFeb 21 00:30
cubexyzit was better in a lot of ways, but it doesn't support new hardware too wellFeb 21 00:30
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cubexyzif you want traditional then run quasijarus OR run one of the BSDs like FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSDFeb 21 00:32
MinceRafaict freebsd is running a high risk of turning into freeosxFeb 21 00:32
MinceRwith launchd and other crApple crapFeb 21 00:32
scientesthere was a suggestion that freebsd adopt systemdFeb 21 00:32
cubexyzthere is no way Theo will use systemd :)Feb 21 00:32
scientesby one of the core developersFeb 21 00:33
MinceRand if all the applications start depending on systemd, even netbsd and openbsd will likely start using systemd shims or forksFeb 21 00:33
cubexyzok, well that's why there are forks, so everyone gets what they wantFeb 21 00:33
cubexyzI happen to like quasijarus but I run Linux tooFeb 21 00:33
MinceRno, it might well be that only the people who want gratis windows will get what they wantFeb 21 00:34
MinceRand we get to start struggling with driver support all over again, from zeroFeb 21 00:34
cubexyzwell MinceR what do you suggest?Feb 21 00:34
MinceRi have no ideaFeb 21 00:34
cubexyzI can run quasijarus and fix bugs so I'm happyFeb 21 00:34
MinceRi never knew what to do with stupid humans (which are the vast majority)Feb 21 00:34
cubexyzI don't have to use every new fangled thing that people come up withFeb 21 00:35
cubexyzof course there are disagreementsFeb 21 00:35
MinceRdoes quasijarus run on anything other than vax?Feb 21 00:35
cubexyzI don't go around telling people what to use, use whatever you wantFeb 21 00:35
cubexyzit was ported to HP9000 I thinkFeb 21 00:36
MinceRi don't have any of thoseFeb 21 00:37
cubexyzUnisys 7000Feb 21 00:37
MinceRjust pc-s, arm machines and a zx spectrumFeb 21 00:37
cubexyzprobably other ones I don't remember what happened after 4.3BSD Feb 21 00:37
cubexyzmicrovax is cheap to getFeb 21 00:38
cubexyzthe average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too bigFeb 21 00:38
cubexyzthe only way you will learn that stuff is if you go back into the past and learn the older versionsFeb 21 00:39
scientes<cubexyz> the average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too bigFeb 21 00:39
scientesexactlyFeb 21 00:39
cubexyzthere is FPGA if you want PDP-11 for modern hardwareFeb 21 00:39
cubexyzsome very interesting projectsFeb 21 00:40
scientesthats why it is being replaced by opengl+waylandFeb 21 00:40
scientesand since opengl fucked up on opengl3 perhaps DX11 tooFeb 21 00:40
scientesI just remember that i read the announcement of systemd and went "holy shit that makes sense!"Feb 21 00:41
scientesafter having experienced the stupidity that is upstartFeb 21 00:41
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MinceRreplacing x might be a good idea, just not with a retarded replacementFeb 21 00:52
MinceRas for DX11, that will never workFeb 21 00:52
MinceRnot only is it only supported on winblows, it's also controlled by m$Feb 21 00:52
cubexyzjust make a Xtiny or Xlight thenFeb 21 00:52
cubexyzit's been done beforeFeb 21 00:52
MinceRtrying to implement a spec m$ controls is _not_ a good ideaFeb 21 00:52
cubexyzXvesa I think was smallFeb 21 00:53
MinceRand yes, upstart was stupid tooFeb 21 00:53
MinceRwith its signal abuseFeb 21 00:53
MinceRbut there are plenty of sane init systems aroundFeb 21 00:53
scientesMinceR, they only did it cause the company that controls opengl bailed on their promise of a modern apiFeb 21 00:53
scientesKronosFeb 21 00:53
scienteslike systemdFeb 21 00:53
MinceRsystemd is supposed to be a "modern api"?Feb 21 00:53
scientesi was talking about DX11Feb 21 00:54
MinceRno, systemd is not saneFeb 21 00:54
MinceRits scope is sprawling, it's overly complex and it puts a lot of shoddy code in pid1Feb 21 00:54
scienteswhat is so horrible about it?Feb 21 00:54
MinceRand it's designed to be impossible to replaceFeb 21 00:54
MinceRoh, and to be non-portableFeb 21 00:54
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL#Longs_Peak_and_OpenGL_3.0_controversyFeb 21 00:54
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MinceRif sysvinit was designed like systemd, it would be impossible to replace sysvinit with systemdFeb 21 00:55
scientesbut software portability isn't the big thing, hardware portability isFeb 21 00:55
MinceRthe average programmer can't know all of systemdFeb 21 00:55
scientesand systemd should work on any 32-bit processor with a MMUFeb 21 00:56
MinceRmaybe it isn't to youFeb 21 00:56
MinceRbut of course, systemd fans don't recognize any use cases outside their ownFeb 21 00:56
cubexyzsome folks still use RT-11 for that matterFeb 21 00:56
MinceRthey're stuck in their little bubble of windows and macos running on pcFeb 21 00:56
cubexyzthey don't even need a multi-user OSFeb 21 00:56
cubexyzRTOS for stuff that has to be responsiveFeb 21 00:58
scienteshere is something crazy: I was contemplating a multi-threaded pid 1Feb 21 00:59
MinceRhere's something less crazy: run the minimum amount of code needed in pid1Feb 21 01:05
cubexyzthat would be Unix v7 or beforeFeb 21 01:06
cubexyzcompletely easy to understand tooFeb 21 01:06
MinceReven this could suffice:Feb 21 01:06
MinceRint main(void) { if (fork()) while (1) wait(NULL); else execl("/etc/rc", "rc", NULL); }Feb 21 01:07
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cubexyzI said it before... write MincerOS :)Feb 21 01:07
MinceRmaybe that will be my new hobbyFeb 21 01:07
MinceR(that oneliner wasn't written by me, btw)Feb 21 01:07
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/original-unix-v5-init.c.txtFeb 21 01:07
cubexyzyou still need a way to go back and forth from single to multi-user modeFeb 21 01:09
cubexyzand update wtmp of courseFeb 21 01:09
MinceRthe service manager can handle the runlevel-like stuffFeb 21 01:10
MinceRwhich would be started by /etc/rcFeb 21 01:10
cubexyzwell, maybe you would do things differently from ThompsonFeb 21 01:10
MinceRi'm not sure how wtmp worksFeb 21 01:11
cubexyzit's just a binary file used by acFeb 21 01:11
cubexyzmaybe new Linux doesn't have that nowdaysFeb 21 01:11
cubexyzkeeps track of user's connection timeFeb 21 01:11
MinceRlooks like wtmp doesn't need to be handled in pid1 eitherFeb 21 01:11
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cubexyzit also reads /etc/getty to know how many init processes to spawnFeb 21 01:14
MinceRwhich could be done by the service managerFeb 21 01:14
MinceRsomething like runit, perhapsFeb 21 01:15
MinceRgnFeb 21 01:15
*scientes thinks using a DAG for system services makes things less painfulFeb 21 01:15
scientesand that anything else is insaneFeb 21 01:15
cubexyzor rather reads /etc/ttysFeb 21 01:15
MinceReven a DAG doesn't have to be implemented in pid1Feb 21 01:15
MinceRand also doesn't need a DNS proxy built inFeb 21 01:15
MinceRor a uefi bootloaderFeb 21 01:16
scientesgummiboot is not part of systemdFeb 21 01:16
MinceRit is now!Feb 21 01:16
scientesits just developed by Kay SieversFeb 21 01:16
scientesand the patch i am working on right now does bring in it's BootLoaderSpecFeb 21 01:16
scientesfor kexecFeb 21 01:16
MinceRhere's a little article to read for alleged software developers who believe systemd is well designed >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_%28computer_science%29Feb 21 01:17
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cubexyzit's not hard to improve upon the status quoFeb 21 01:17
MinceRof course, any proper software engineering course includes discussion of cohesionFeb 21 01:17
MinceRbut apparently nobody at red hat finished such a courseFeb 21 01:18
cubexyzreduced module complexity, that describes early UnixFeb 21 01:19
cubexyzthat's why the MIT OS design course uses a modernized Unix v6Feb 21 01:19
MinceRnot shoving unrelated stuff into modules, i think that describes unix tooFeb 21 01:19
MinceRrather, not shoving unrelated stuff into the same module, i think that describes unix tooFeb 21 01:19
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cubexyzactually Kernighan and Pike criticized 4.2BSD and System VFeb 21 01:22
cubexyzin their opinion, 4.2BSD was already a departure from true UnixFeb 21 01:22
MinceRnot as much as Lendows isFeb 21 01:23
scienteslolFeb 21 01:23
scientesthe true unix: "return 0"Feb 21 01:23
scientesoh "return 0;"Feb 21 01:23
MinceRthat would be /bin/trueFeb 21 01:23
scientesno then you violate SCO's copyright claims on unixFeb 21 01:23
cubexyzI talked to Mcllroy about it... but what are you going to do?Feb 21 01:24
MinceRi thought SCO's alleged claims have been dismissed ages agoFeb 21 01:24
scientesyou have to make it a c programFeb 21 01:24
MinceReven m$ seemed to give up on handing another bucket of money to SCO to warm up the FUDFeb 21 01:24
scientessystemd doesn't really use coreutilsFeb 21 01:24
MinceRof courseFeb 21 01:24
cubexyzLinux is (quoting) "in a disheartening state of obesity"Feb 21 01:24
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MinceRsystemd doesn't really use anything, except the kernel, but they're working on getting rid of the kernel tooFeb 21 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines                 some legitimate points thereFeb 21 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | The Open Data Platform, like United Linux before it, will fail - TechRepublicFeb 21 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why you should consider cloud-hosted LinuxFeb 21 01:25
TweetTuxMachines                 desktops http://t.co/UnLaErODD0Feb 21 01:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com | Why you should consider cloud-hosted Linux desktopsFeb 21 01:25
scientes"cloud"Feb 21 01:25
scienteswhat the fuck does "cloud" mean anyways?Feb 21 01:25
scienteswhat a load of marketing gibberishFeb 21 01:25
MinceRit means "just hand your data and code over to us and everything will be fine, trust us"Feb 21 01:25
MinceRmac asay should have waited with the United Linux thing, it may yet happen in the form of LendowsFeb 21 01:26
MinceRit won't be worth using of course, but it will beFeb 21 01:26
MinceRit will exist, for a whileFeb 21 01:27
cubexyzthere's no united anything thoughFeb 21 01:27
scientessystemd is unifying linuxFeb 21 01:27
MinceRunited in the quest for the useless shinyFeb 21 01:27
MinceRunited in idiocracyFeb 21 01:27
scientesit brings the linux development model to userspaceFeb 21 01:27
scientesnow we just need subsystemd maintainersFeb 21 01:28
MinceRwell, at least we'll know if the kernel is this crap tooFeb 21 01:28
MinceRalso, a while ago torvalds said that linux didn't break userspaceFeb 21 01:29
MinceRsystemd never followed thatFeb 21 01:29
MinceRthough they did say they won't break udev for non-systemd casesFeb 21 01:29
MinceR(a lie, of course)Feb 21 01:29
scienteshttp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InterfaceStabilityPromise/Feb 21 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedesktop.org | InterfaceStabilityPromise [ http://ur1.ca/jrpeo ]Feb 21 01:29
MinceRnot the same thingFeb 21 01:30
scienteslol libwrap is goneFeb 21 01:30
scientesand that mentions libwraFeb 21 01:30
MinceRpromises made by the cancerd cult aren't worth the bits they're written onFeb 21 01:31
scientespid 1 is 1.4 MiBFeb 21 01:31
scientesits hugeFeb 21 01:31
MinceR1.4 MiB of null pointer dereferences and remote holes?Feb 21 01:32
scientessz == 8 || (value < (1ULL << (sz*8)))Feb 21 01:34
scienteswhy does it have that string in the binary?Feb 21 01:34
MinceRi have no idea, maybe it's an assert or somethingFeb 21 01:34
scientesyeah but that would be compiledFeb 21 01:34
scientesperhaps thats the way assert gets compiledFeb 21 01:34
MinceRsure, but it prints an error message with the expressionFeb 21 01:35
MinceRiircFeb 21 01:35
scientesahh yesFeb 21 01:35
scienteslol http://paste.debian.net/153527/Feb 21 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paste.debian.net | debian PastezoneFeb 21 01:36
DaemonFChttp://wn.ktvu.com/story/28132951/vandalism-could-delay-reopening-portion-of-dolores-parkFeb 21 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wn.ktvu.com | Vandalism could delay reopening portion of Dolores Park - KTVU - [ http://ur1.ca/jrph8 ]Feb 21 01:42
DaemonFC"I'm infuriated, I'm angry," San Francisco Recreation & Park Department General Manager Phil Ginsburg told KTVU Tuesday. "Over the weekend, some idiots broke into the construction site and did about $100,000 worth of damage."Feb 21 01:42
DaemonFCGinsburg said intruders stole a construction cart, hotwired it and did donuts on a newly sodded field, damaging a new irrigation system.Feb 21 01:42
DaemonFCVandals also tagged the cement roof of the park's new storage facility and even lit a campfire in a corner of that facility to roast s'mores, leaving behind marshmallows, chocolate and graham crackers.Feb 21 01:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Studio v1.1 hits the stable channelFeb 21 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/G9oOSZLoAoFeb 21 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidauthority.com)Feb 21 01:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Android Studio v1.1 hits the stable channel - Android AuthorityFeb 21 01:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 20/2/2015: Android Studio v1.1, GDB 7.9Feb 21 01:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6X3AWniV78 (techrights.org)Feb 21 01:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/2/2015: Android Studio v1.1, GDB 7.9 | TechrightsFeb 21 01:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Good explanation of how microsoft attacks linuxFeb 21 01:44
TweetTuxMachines                 right now http://t.co/msioGT0uu2Feb 21 01:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.forbes.com)Feb 21 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Microsoft's Trojan Horse To Undermine Android - ForbesFeb 21 01:44
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*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'Mac Asay against convergence http://t.co/drdJTmuoGv some legitimate points...'Feb 21 01:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | The Open Data Platform, like United Linux before it, will fail - TechRepublicFeb 21 01:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Demand for Linux developers on the riseFeb 21 01:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Demand for Linux developers on the riseFeb 21 01:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/twFOT0qOKoFeb 21 01:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 21 01:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/S7oflxv0VrFeb 21 01:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 21 01:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/XEFQjwOOHRFeb 21 01:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 21 01:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A look at gnu linux distro LinHES 8.3Feb 21 01:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.1 Update: What to ExpectFeb 21 02:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Android 5.1 Update: What to ExpectFeb 21 02:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     YouTube is launching an Android app forFeb 21 02:12
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msbI'm not totally up on this stuff, but it seems to me the main problem with eliminating systemd is the apps that use it.  An init system, udev, etc., can be done as it is today.  So how do apps use systemd?  And can they be satisfied with a fairly simple systemd-shim (which will not run in PID1 of course).  Is there an explanation somewhere of exactly what the current systemd-shim does?Feb 21 06:24
cubexyzone doesn't need to eliminate any appsFeb 21 06:26
cubexyzI'll just use wheezy, or slackware, or one of the BSDsFeb 21 06:26
cubexyzor something derived from wheezy, or something derived from slackwareFeb 21 06:26
msbI don't want to eliminate any apps.  I want the up-to-date apps, that use systemd, to be able to run without it.  Feb 21 06:27
cubexyzthe display manager maybeFeb 21 06:32
msbWiki says that slackware has no "public code repository".  What does that mean?  And it all depends on one guy.Feb 21 06:32
msbI want to stay with Linux because it is a great human endevor and should not be allowed to be sabotaged by RH/US/NWO.Feb 21 06:33
cubexyzit's like I tried to explain earlierFeb 21 06:34
msbSorry, maybe I missed it or didn't understand.Feb 21 06:34
cubexyzfrom my point of view I'm just going to use an earlier pre-systemd distro or I'll use slackware or OpenBSDFeb 21 06:35
cubexyzthat's what I'm doing now... and in addition to that I research historical UnixFeb 21 06:35
msbRight, but I'm asking help with my point of view.Feb 21 06:35
msbWhat is  the display manager, please?Feb 21 06:35
cubexyzkdm or gdmFeb 21 06:36
msbThat's now in systemd too?Feb 21 06:36
cubexyzummm, it might be now, I'm not sure about thatFeb 21 06:37
cubexyzthere's xdm if you want something differentFeb 21 06:37
msbBut apps run after k/gdm chooses a DE and starts X.  How do apps depend on dm?Feb 21 06:37
cubexyzstrictly speaking the applications don't need a dmFeb 21 06:38
cubexyzthe display manager just does stuff like move the focus, and move windows aroundFeb 21 06:38
cubexyzsometimes I don't even run a dm at allFeb 21 06:39
cubexyzI'm running kdm on vectorFeb 21 06:39
cubexyzbut that's kdm from kde 3.5.10Feb 21 06:40
cubexyzso no systemd Feb 21 06:40
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msbI thought it was the window manager that moves windows around, etc.Feb 21 06:41
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msbI want to find a non-systemd that will work for most people -- for humanity.  Feb 21 06:43
cubexyzok, this is dependent on a few things... and it depends on which way things are set upFeb 21 06:43
cubexyzok, really with KDE 3.5.10 there are two things: kdm and kwinFeb 21 06:44
msbSo it should be Linux, and should be up to date, and well maintained.Feb 21 06:44
cubexyzbut sometimes there's only one thing: icewmFeb 21 06:44
cubexyzso on openbsd I login via text loginFeb 21 06:45
cubexyzthere's no gui loginFeb 21 06:45
msbSo icewm comes up and asks you to select a DE (or console mode)?Feb 21 06:45
cubexyznoFeb 21 06:45
cubexyzI'm starting completely in text modeFeb 21 06:45
cubexyzI start icewm via a scriptFeb 21 06:45
cubexyzthat starts X and icewmFeb 21 06:46
cubexyzso there's no gui login :)Feb 21 06:46
cubexyzI'm already logged in via text loginFeb 21 06:46
msbOK, but if one wants to select among multiple DEs, one needs K/G/XDM, right?  Or a script to do it.  I forgot about the login, but the DMs do that too.  In any case, I don't think apps would access the Feb 21 06:47
cubexyzok, now on other distros it could be set up differentlyFeb 21 06:47
msbDM.Feb 21 06:47
cubexyzwell I could just write multiple scripts for each wmFeb 21 06:48
cubexyzif you give me a second I can check what AntiX doesFeb 21 06:49
cubexyzit's in another roomFeb 21 06:49
msbOK.  Back to the apps.  I read that goddamn systemd will necessitate changing apps to keep up with it (churning apps).  So how and why do apps access/need systemd?Feb 21 06:49
msbObviously you don't need a heater in winter.  8^)Feb 21 06:50
msbI wish that scientes POS was here to explain.Feb 21 06:51
cubexyzI think antix uses slim for the gui loginFeb 21 06:56
cubexyzthe application shouldn't care if you run sysvinit or whateverFeb 21 06:57
cubexyzthe init controls the appsFeb 21 06:58
msbSo how does systemd "churn" apps?Feb 21 06:58
cubexyzit's like dependencies like library versions, same as alwaysFeb 21 07:00
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cubexyzif systemd gets new libraries, they have to work with the existing applicationsFeb 21 07:00
msbIf devuan has an init system, udev, etc, that doesn't use systemd, can it then use the normal debian repos?Feb 21 07:00
msbfor apps?Feb 21 07:01
cubexyzthat's speculativeFeb 21 07:01
cubexyzwe don't even have devuan yetFeb 21 07:02
cubexyzwho knows :)Feb 21 07:02
msbThis is a major tragedy, from the social viewpoint.Feb 21 07:03
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msbI _am_ a conspiracy theorist, and I know one when I see one.Feb 21 07:03
cubexyzok, obviously I don't agree with you-know-whoFeb 21 07:04
msbwho?Feb 21 07:04
cubexyzthe pro-systemd folksFeb 21 07:04
msbI'm just hoping it's a tragedy with a technical fix.Feb 21 07:05
cubexyzreally this has happened before with 4.3BSD and System VFeb 21 07:06
cubexyzit's a similar schismFeb 21 07:06
msbI doubt that was done by the ruling psychopaths to control the world's population, like this is.Feb 21 07:07
cubexyzBSD init vs SysV initFeb 21 07:07
cubexyzit's not just me saying thumbs down to systemdFeb 21 07:08
msbI know.  I have lots of articles and websites about that.Feb 21 07:08
cubexyzprint this out:Feb 21 07:09
cubexyzhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installationFeb 21 07:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jmy5s ]Feb 21 07:09
msbThe problem is that the major distros have swallowed it, from stupidity, bribes, or threats.Feb 21 07:09
cubexyzthere's lots of classic distros which I mentioned earlier, that will never use systemdFeb 21 07:09
msbI saw that, but it has very few major distros.Feb 21 07:10
cubexyzquasijarus, Research Unix, Plan 9, the BSDs, etcFeb 21 07:10
msbBut classic distros are out of date regarding security holes, new media formats, etc.Feb 21 07:10
cubexyzbut I can say the same thing about the new distros :)Feb 21 07:10
msbHow so?Feb 21 07:11
cubexyzthey don't support my hardware, and they have _new_ bugsFeb 21 07:11
msbVery few people have your old hardware.Feb 21 07:11
msbAnd new bugs will get fixed.Feb 21 07:11
cubexyzanyways, I'm not really that worried. That guy was just trying to bother peopleFeb 21 07:12
cubexyzI don't even think he seriously believes the stuff he was sayingFeb 21 07:12
msbI don't care about him.Feb 21 07:14
cubexyzfolks can run the old stuff forever if they want Feb 21 07:14
msbThe human race needs Linux, and systemd will destroy it.Feb 21 07:14
cubexyzusing FPGAs or emulators, or by fixing old hardwareFeb 21 07:14
cubexyzI spent over 10 years updating FC1Feb 21 07:15
msbThe old stuff doesn't handle new media formats, Android, and other stuff to be invented.Feb 21 07:15
msbThe public doesn't use FPGAs and emulators are slow.Feb 21 07:15
msbI am looking for a solution for everybody, not just you.Feb 21 07:15
cubexyzmost people don't even understand the OS that's on their computerFeb 21 07:17
cubexyzFPGAs are good... you could make your own CPU :)Feb 21 07:18
msbMost people don[t even know they are using an OS.Feb 21 07:18
msbI'm fine with an AMD 8-core -- much faster.Feb 21 07:18
cubexyzpersonally I think Linux is too bloated and complicatedFeb 21 07:19
cubexyzAntiX did a decent job pruning it downFeb 21 07:19
cubexyzOpenBSD is relatively leanFeb 21 07:20
msbDoesn;t matter.  Any PC today has GBs of RAM.Feb 21 07:21
cubexyzI don't use bluetooth, or sunrpc or nfs etcFeb 21 07:21
cubexyzit sure does matter if you want to try to understand itFeb 21 07:22
cubexyzlook at MIT's courseware for OS designFeb 21 07:22
cubexyzbut everybody's differentFeb 21 07:23
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cubexyzthat guy just parrots the same crap over and overFeb 21 07:25
cubexyz"who cares" Feb 21 07:25
cubexyzI careFeb 21 07:25
cubexyzemulated PDP-11 is quite fastFeb 21 07:29
cubexyzway faster than the fastest PDP-11 ever madeFeb 21 07:29
cubexyzinit is just a way to get things started, run some gettys, turn things off and onFeb 21 07:30
msbHow fast compared to an AMD FX-8350?Feb 21 07:31
cubexyzit's just a hosted OS... so it's speed depends on how fast the host isFeb 21 07:39
cubexyzin my case a P3 is fast enough to run any PDP-11 OS quite wellFeb 21 07:39
cubexyzif I put it on a FX-8350 it would be a lot faster I'm sureFeb 21 07:40
msbI'm talking about speed for playing x265s, transcoding, and video editing.Feb 21 07:40
msbnot running the OS.Feb 21 07:41
msbAgain, I am looking for a solution for everyone, not just techies.Feb 21 07:42
cubexyzI don't think everyone does those things eitherFeb 21 07:42
msbEveryone now views x265s.Feb 21 07:42
msbAnd lots of people edit videos.Feb 21 07:42
msbYou seem to be recommending that people get an FPGA and run PDP11 on it, just so they can run an old Unix that will not handle modern media formats, etc.  Does not make sense to me.Feb 21 07:44
cubexyzI only mentioned FPGAs to point out that when old hardware dies, people can still run on the old Unix on the FPGAFeb 21 07:46
cubexyzif they want to do thatFeb 21 07:46
cubexyzit's perfectly valid for businesses that need to replace legacy hardwareFeb 21 07:47
cubexyzjoe blow isn't going to listen to me anywaysFeb 21 07:48
cubexyzI'm sure if I wanted to I buy some appropriate computer hardware to edit videosFeb 21 07:49
cubexyzI wouldn't use a PDP-11 for that obviouslyFeb 21 07:49
msbI'm talking about average people.  They want a fast general purpose desktop or laptop for doing everything.Feb 21 07:50
msbUp to date, easy to use, not microshit.Feb 21 07:51
cubexyzmicroshit?Feb 21 07:51
msbMicrofuckshitpissFeb 21 07:51
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5635129Feb 21 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ibm insisted that it hadn't helped the #nsa with back doors despite #tpm work and recent revelations about hard-drive firmware bugs (IBM)Feb 21 08:35
schestowitz"Most of their Hard drive storage operation was sold off to Hitachi many years ago. And c"onsider Samsung, Seagate and the rest are now Asia centric.Feb 21 08:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5630086Feb 21 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Hacker Claims Feds Hit Him With 44 Felonies When He Refused to Be an #FBI Spy http://www.wired.com/2015/02/hacker-claims-feds-hit-44-felonies-refused-fbi-spy/ recruitment by extortion/blackmailFeb 21 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.wired.com | Hacker Claims Feds Hit Him With 44 Felonies When He Refused to Be an FBI Spy | WIRED [ http://ur1.ca/jrrqp ]Feb 21 08:36
schestowitz"Stuff like this is why I think they suicided Ilya Zhitomirskiy."Feb 21 08:36
schestowitzI read somewhere that it was suicide but could not confirmFeb 21 08:37
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5635066Feb 21 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Good explanation of how #microsoft attacks #linux right now http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/microsoft-fights-google-android-cyanogen/Feb 21 08:37
schestowitz"There's nothing potent about Microsoft's "cloud". Bing, Skype, Outlook are miserable failures like everything else Microsoft touches. Idiot news sources like Fobes said the same kinds of silly things when Microsoft subjugated Yahoo, but it went no where. Microsoft's corruption of Cyanogenmod is one or two orders of magnitude less important than that."Feb 21 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.forbes.com | Microsoft's Trojan Horse To Undermine Android - Forbes [ http://ur1.ca/jrrqu ]Feb 21 08:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Create QR Codes In Ubuntu/Linux MintFeb 21 08:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How To Create QR Codes In Ubuntu/Linux Mint | Tux MachinesFeb 21 08:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3Feb 21 08:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Strength Of The SWORD ULTIMATE, Fully Funded &Feb 21 09:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Coming To Linux https://t.co/7zkEMq3layFeb 21 09:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Strength Of The SWORD ULTIMATE, Fully Funded & Coming To Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 21 09:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Download ClearOS Community 6.6.0 With YouTubeFeb 21 09:14
TweetTuxMachines                 School ID Support http://t.co/TRpESTFdpZFeb 21 09:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Download ClearOS Community 6.6.0 With YouTube School ID Support - SoftpediaFeb 21 09:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Released – Detailed ReviewFeb 21 09:14
TweetTuxMachines                 and Installation InstructionsFeb 21 09:14
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6cj35p3lt9 (www.tecmint.com)Feb 21 09:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrrxtFeb 21 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Released - Detailed Review and Installation InstructionsFeb 21 09:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, andFeb 21 09:14
TweetTuxMachines                 Arduino I/O http://t.co/6YEFWIZpuBFeb 21 09:14
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 21 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | pcDuino3B hacker SBC features WiFi, GbE, and Arduino I/O ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 21 09:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrrxuFeb 21 09:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Official Ubuntu Phone Porting Guide PublishedFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WTduPfM0lS (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrs1mFeb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Official Ubuntu Phone Porting Guide Published - SoftpediaFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Shell Gets a Visual Refresh Based on theFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Redesigned GTK+ Theme In GNOME 3.16 Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RIumZld4g1 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrs1nFeb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Shell Gets a Visual Refresh Based on the Redesigned GTK+ Theme In GNOME 3.16 - SoftpediaFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why All Linux (Security) Bugs Aren't Shallow Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/T3x7ylXAXwFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.esecurityplanet.com)Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrs1oFeb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esecurityplanet.com | Why All Linux (Security) Bugs Aren't Shallow - eSecurity PlanetFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to theFeb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 space station http://t.co/SNtX3rKZYJFeb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.zdnet.com)Feb 21 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the space station | ZDNetFeb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrs2aFeb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linus Torvalds: Write Linux Kernel Code, 'GetFeb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Hired Really Quickly' http://t.co/uRhv7jqkrqFeb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.lifehacker.com.au)Feb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrs2bFeb 21 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.com.au | Linus Torvalds: Write Linux Kernel Code, 'Get Hired Really Quickly' | Lifehacker AustraliaFeb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines@rmsthebot       @tuxmachines Giving the Linus Torvalds Award toFeb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 the Free Software Foundation is a bit likeFeb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 giving the Han Solo Award to the RebelFeb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Alliance.Feb 21 09:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrs2cFeb 21 09:39
*TweetTuxMachines @DanbecBeck followed @tuxmachinesFeb 21 09:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video OverviewFeb 21 09:52
TweetTuxMachines                 and Screenshot Tours http://t.co/6ZSf2BG9pFFeb 21 09:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxscoop.com)Feb 21 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxscoop.com | Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video Overview and Screenshot Tours - Linux ScoopFeb 21 09:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrs4tFeb 21 09:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPUFeb 21 09:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Driver Code http://t.co/NBkqZiTYwkFeb 21 09:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU Driver Code - PhoronixFeb 21 09:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrs4uFeb 21 09:52
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozero huhFeb 21 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ozero - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 21 10:42
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/569094254401757185Feb 21 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz @koenrh @marchijinkNRC #Gemalto CEO saw 'the writing on the wall' or he was a prophet ;-) http://t.co/QPrSx73A7X #NSA #GCHQFeb 21 11:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xfce 4.12 Should Be Released in One WeekFeb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ngGA1zUZ5j (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/KFelyRGvii (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Xfce 4.12 Should Be Released in One Week, at the End of February - SoftpediaFeb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Gv5Rynbo34 (fossforce.com)Feb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrsorFeb 21 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Xfce 4.12 Is Still Planned For Release In One Week - PhoronixFeb 21 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Xfce 4.12, Raspberry Pi's Whole Number & More… | FOSS ForceFeb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New features in Fedora 22 Workstation.Feb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/r9eLWrhCwB (paul.frields.org)Feb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 #redhatFeb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrsosFeb 21 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.frields.org | New features in Fedora 22 Workstation. - The Grand FallacyFeb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The prize money for the award will be given toFeb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 the TAILS Free Software project." http:/...Feb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bFI9dTIOWS (joindiaspora.com)Feb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrsotFeb 21 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | "The prize money ...Feb 21 11:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/569099523898761216Feb 21 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@schestowitz @micahflee "sends copies of SIM crypto keys to carriers…often⇒email/FTP. What'd possibly go wrong…"with #Gemalto's stupidity?Feb 21 11:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     T-Mobile Galaxy S5 lands Lollipop to lead thisFeb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 week's Android device update roundupFeb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zdtscLty93 (www.greenbot.com)Feb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrsstFeb 21 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com | T-Mobile Galaxy S5 lands Lollipop to lead this week's Android device update roundup | GreenbotFeb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LibreOffice 4.3.6 Released as TDF CelebratesFeb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Three Years http://t.co/Px418EX8XBFeb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 12:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 4.3.6 Released as TDF Celebrates Three Years | Tux MachinesFeb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Editorial: Linux Gaming Will Be Fine EvenFeb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Without Steam Machines SucceedingFeb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/70OIH8cWZR (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrssvFeb 21 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Editorial: Linux Gaming Will Be Fine Even Without Steam Machines Succeeding | GamingOnLinuxFeb 21 12:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wayland/Weston 1.7.0 Make It For Ubuntu 15.04Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ToxJbSnkBC (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrsxoFeb 21 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wayland/Weston 1.7.0 Make It For Ubuntu 15.04 - PhoronixFeb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-based desktops work despite Windows appFeb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines                 prevalence http://t.co/2PqaWZsjj8Feb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com) "WindowsFeb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines                 applications are a hurdle"Feb 21 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchvirtualdesktop.techtarget.com | Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app prevalenceFeb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrsxpFeb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For LinuxFeb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines                 3.20/4.0? http://t.co/MUIpJfxKfdFeb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com) http://t.co/EtfTrQMF2JFeb 21 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux 3.20/4.0? - PhoronixFeb 21 12:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Code Merged This Week For Linux 3.20/4.0 Is Just As Exciting As Last Week - PhoronixFeb 21 12:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569114703294803970Feb 21 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz #LibreOffice user here. Great news! Any word on #Kompozer? It's still the best OS web design tool I know.Feb 21 12:44
schestowitzI have not heard about it for yearsFeb 21 12:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569116109099679744Feb 21 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Development has stalled since 2007. I wonder if the issue is funding?Feb 21 12:49
schestowitzprobably a contributing factorFeb 21 12:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569117059642212352Feb 21 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Have they considered crowdfunding? I would certainly help to publicise it by sharing on my social media accounts and blog.Feb 21 12:55
schestowitzWorth working towards if you can get in touch with the devs (probably moved on in their lives)Feb 21 12:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118572515106817Feb 21 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz That's the problem; web design ends up being restricted to pretentious Adobe Creative Suite users who don't know what "code"...Feb 21 13:00
schestowitzWhy not use CMS with integrated WYSIWYG?Feb 21 13:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118773397090305Feb 21 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz ...means. If it's not W3C compliant you lose me at "Hello."Feb 21 13:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569119752246988800Feb 21 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz I do. And it's better and easier. However, if you don't understand how it actually works you can't deliver the results you wantFeb 21 13:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569120051590250497Feb 21 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz which is why I always advocate learning to build from scratch. You can take shortcuts later when you understand what you cut.Feb 21 13:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As DefaultFeb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines                 In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/98MbviM4E3 (www.webupd8.org)Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrt8jFeb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blogFeb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/GmB2UB3JpQ (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrt8kFeb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 - SoftpediaFeb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on SteamFeb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines                 for Linux http://t.co/BlXHvVM7f7Feb 21 13:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on Steam for Linux - SoftpediaFeb 21 13:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become theFeb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 coolest Android phone ever?Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xrgrvcmkz0 (www.networkworld.com)Feb 21 13:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the coolest Android phone ever? | Network WorldFeb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra SecureFeb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Messaging AppFeb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/y1tftc6U0t (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 21 13:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrta9Feb 21 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra Secure Messaging App - SoftpediaFeb 21 13:35
MinceRgeekingsFeb 21 13:39
MinceRthe zero-copy scientes mentioned was yet another poor excuse: "Lennart said that it works better to simply copy anything that is less than about 512KB" http://lwn.net/Articles/580194/Feb 21 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | The unveiling of kdbus [LWN.net]Feb 21 14:03
XRevan86schestowitz: rss2snFeb 21 14:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now HasFeb 21 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Better ODT Format SupportFeb 21 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BxcNGHunvs (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 14:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrtkaFeb 21 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now Has Better ODT Format Support - SoftpediaFeb 21 14:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On LinuxFeb 21 14:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/d7oMel58D3 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 21 14:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Many new LTS releases of gnu linuxFeb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xUM41MpuIG (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/OJMjOSWO6i (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Edubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Has Been Officially Released - SoftpediaFeb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/S5ihB7PPrH (www.kubuntu.org)Feb 21 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released, Users Can No Longer Upgrade to Plasma 5 - SoftpediaFeb 21 14:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Berq4Y3nND (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 14:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kubuntu.org | Kubuntu 14.04 LTS Update Out | KubuntuFeb 21 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Arrives with Linux Kernel 3.16 - SoftpediaFeb 21 14:25
schestowitzwow. sites of gun nuts http://www.ammoland.com/2015/02/america-in-distress-have-we-reached-the-tipping-point/#axzz3SOHBFUcrFeb 21 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ammoland.com | America In Distress - Have We Reached The Tipping Point? [ http://ur1.ca/jrtmm ]Feb 21 14:34
MinceRmore like republican wingnutsFeb 21 14:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: UpdateFeb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Coming http://t.co/acLhZSon3tFeb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.latinospost.com) http://t.co/FJNFeRE7wLFeb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latinospost.com | Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: Update Coming to Motorola Devices After Nexus & HTC? : Tech : Latinos PostFeb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ibtimes.co.uk)Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrtn6Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Android 5.1 Lollipop release date confirmed for HTC One M7 GPE, Nexus devices to follow soonFeb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wine 1.7.37 Adds UTF-7 Encoding, InterfaceFeb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Change Notifications http://t.co/NAXVi9TuofFeb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/3Gl10yGKiS (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wine 1.7.37 Adds UTF-7 Encoding, Interface Change Notifications - PhoronixFeb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4ratRZn0Sy (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support, Fixes 71 Bugs - SoftpediaFeb 21 14:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrtn7Feb 21 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The Wine Development Release 1.7.37 Is Now Available | GamingOnLinuxFeb 21 14:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636970Feb 21 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/locally-integrated-menus-lim-set-as.html #ubuntu #linuxFeb 21 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.webupd8.org | Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog [ http://ur1.ca/jrtnr ]Feb 21 14:38
schestowitz"Good!"Feb 21 14:38
schestowitz"As long as global can be configured :)"Feb 21 14:38
schestowitz"I don't find this feature particularly convenient. Probably the idea of some Apple fanboy inside Canonical. :P But yes it is good to have options."Feb 21 14:38
schestowitzOne can install KDE on top as Ubuntu, as I often do..Feb 21 14:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636961Feb 21 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lendows or Lennux can be avoided http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installationFeb 21 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> without-systemd.org | Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jmy5s ]Feb 21 14:39
schestowitz"What distro are you using?"Feb 21 14:39
schestowitzDebian and KubuntuFeb 21 14:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636755Feb 21 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ClipperChip/status/568912218412216321Feb 21 14:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ClipperChip: .@ggreenwald EU: “We demand answers!” US: “The answers you seek are in another castle.” – EU: "Oh, okay." http://t.co/Ut3PMO4fb1Feb 21 14:39
schestowitz"These are not the answers you're looking for"Feb 21 14:39
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msbschestowitz: I think the non-systemd solution has to be: 1. a major distro, or one that uses the repos of one, so it has lots of support 2. not source code or run by one person (slackware funtoo gentoo) 3. is up to date and continually modernized, so it supports new games, media formats, etc. 4. is Linux, not *bsd, because Linux is vital for humanity.Feb 21 15:39
msbThere are only 15 people in the PCLinuxOS IRC support channel, compared to 288 in the Suse channel.Feb 21 15:59
MinceRmaybe suse needs that much more supportFeb 21 16:00
msbNo.  PCLOS is created by one person.Feb 21 16:00
XRevan86MinceR: No, PCLinuxOS is really unpopular.Feb 21 16:00
msbXRevan86: Do you know why?Feb 21 16:01
XRevan86msb: Not really.Feb 21 16:01
XRevan86msb: I did look at it but quickly dropped it since repos are very small.Feb 21 16:01
msbSo there is no distro suitable for the general public in that without-systemd.org list.Feb 21 16:02
XRevan86"Trisquel GNU/Linux" сan be removed from that list, by the wayFeb 21 16:03
msbSuse was very well designed before it adopted systemd.  It has lots of support.Feb 21 16:03
XRevan86since systemd will be in Trisquel 8.0 (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS)Feb 21 16:04
msbDamn!Feb 21 16:04
msbI guess we have to pray for Devuan.Feb 21 16:04
XRevan86Point Linux is Debian-based.Feb 21 16:04
XRevan86Pardus is Debian-based and also sucks a lotFeb 21 16:05
XRevan86msb: Pisi Linux is nice but repos are small, too :)Feb 21 16:05
XRevan86msb: They also did write there own init system.Feb 21 16:06
msbI figure if I haven't heard of it it's too small to be reliable.Feb 21 16:06
XRevan86msb: Have you heard about pardus?Feb 21 16:06
MinceRstill more reliable than LendowsFeb 21 16:06
XRevan86msb: before it became a useless Debian derivateFeb 21 16:07
msbNo.  Feb 21 16:07
XRevan86Pisi Linux is a fork of PardusFeb 21 16:07
msbNone of these obscure distros is going to have much support, or can be counted on to be maintained for years.Feb 21 16:08
msbAnd if one run by one person becomes very popular, he'll probably be killed in a hunting accident by 87 stray bullets and a hand-grenade.Feb 21 16:09
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msbI'm not looking for one for myself so much, but for the general public, so they can use it before the systemd distros turn to shit.Feb 21 16:12
msbAlternate mode of death for people who oppose the fascist system: suicide by shooting oneself in the head twice.Feb 21 16:14
msbGoddess protect the Devuan people!Feb 21 16:16
msbVectorLinux has 13 people in its IRC.Feb 21 16:32
MinceRsalix has 16Feb 21 16:33
__martin__holy shietFeb 21 16:33
__martin__had no clue pentagon was this farFeb 21 16:33
__martin__"The research is based on extracting narratives from millions of American, Iranian and Chinese weblogs, and subjecting them to automated discourse analysis to compare them quantitatively across the three languages. The investigators then follow up using behavioral experiments with readers/listeners from different cultures to gauge their reaction different narratives “where each story makes an appeFeb 21 16:33
__martin__al to a sacred value to explain or justify a morally-questionable behavior of the author.” Finally, the scientists apply neurobiological fMRI scanning to correlate the reactions and personal characteristics of subjects with their brain responses."Feb 21 16:33
msbWow, talk about "morally questionable"!Feb 21 16:35
msbSo, based on that analysis, they automatically brew up a virus that kills the part of the person's brain that opposes the rulers.Feb 21 16:36
msbAnd deliver it to him by a drone.Feb 21 16:36
msbOf course if they're using fMRI they already have him.Feb 21 16:37
__martin__at least the main villain in the marvel's latest sci-fi blockbuster "jupiter ascending" copies the looks of young bill gates excellently so people can count one plus one and join the partial truths about him lolFeb 21 16:46
__martin__[directors = trangender matrix creators]Feb 21 16:47
__martin__trans*Feb 21 16:47
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schestowitzXRevan86: fork?Feb 21 17:46
schestowitzI think successor?Feb 21 17:46
schestowitzOr renameFeb 21 17:46
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XRevan86schestowitz: I can really say "successor" since something is still living with a name Pardus Feb 21 17:50
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5637005Feb 21 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #avg on 'malware' that "requires an Android device to be “rooted”" and for use to install it http://www.pcworld.com/article/2886932/android-malware-fakes-phone-shutdown-to-steal-data.htmlFeb 21 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | Android malware fakes phone shutdown to steal your data | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jruta ]Feb 21 17:51
schestowitz"A scare piece against rooting your phone and/or using app stores like F-Droid?"Feb 21 17:51
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__martin__yep, like garret's secure boot apologismFeb 21 17:52
MinceRmore like a piece of FUD against android, imoFeb 21 17:52
MinceRit's from IDG, after allFeb 21 17:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5629974Feb 21 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/568579388817735680Feb 21 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: There is nobody on earth who has exploited 9/11 more frequently, shamelessly and self-servingly than Rudy Giuliani http://t.co/SAnRpC2tVcFeb 21 17:52
schestowitz"lol First person to say "9/11" nine-hundred and eleven times in one 10 min speech gets to legally change his name 9/11..."Feb 21 17:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/roppert/status/569192299680428033Feb 21 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@roppert: @schestowitz @teirdes Never trust big corporations, no matter how or what they do to convince us. Why? Cause greed is only common motivator.Feb 21 17:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Riz_myth/status/569193154416545792Feb 21 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Riz_myth: Dzekoooooooo is Backkkkk 3-0 & it's only 21mins of the game played #MCINEW | #ManCityNewcastleFeb 21 18:08
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/kBTXDYeFeb 21 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Germany's heart of gold - ImgurFeb 21 18:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Creating a Community: Getting StartedFeb 21 19:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New AMD Processors Supported By CorebootFeb 21 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New AMD Processors Supported By Coreboot | Tux MachinesFeb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps areFeb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines                 almost here http://t.co/LzVrOrKDi0Feb 21 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps are almost here | Tux MachinesFeb 21 20:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/KW5K9dSCbaFeb 21 20:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 21 20:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636987Feb 21 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Promotion of the 'cloud' religion has led people to not caring about #security or blindly trusting 'cloud' because "everyone's doin' it!"Feb 21 21:42
schestowitz"and Big Data, and the Internet of Things. All privacy disasters."Feb 21 21:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux DistributionFeb 21 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux Distribution | Tux MachinesFeb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts withFeb 21 22:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22Feb 21 22:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Workstation Pushed This WeekFeb 21 22:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22 Workstation Pushed This Week | Tux MachinesFeb 21 22:43
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_FawkesFeb 21 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Guy Fawkes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 21 22:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat announces the availability ofFeb 21 23:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat announces the availability of Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globally | Tux MachinesFeb 21 23:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released withFeb 21 23:25
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mir Now Depends Upon C++14Feb 21 23:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mir Now Depends Upon C++14 | Tux MachinesFeb 21 23:25
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pilgmEahPUkFeb 21 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Love Police: Riding God's Drunken Ferrari - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwvg ]Feb 21 23:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support for Several RISC Microprocessor Architectures | Tux MachinesFeb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HDFeb 21 23:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Graphics http://t.co/N7OF5A09rMFeb 21 23:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HD Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 21 23:38
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc8hGD8ftFAFeb 21 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit 3 "Will you follow me, one last time?" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwya ]Feb 21 23:42
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKQk06dqmzUFeb 21 23:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit 3 Azog's and his armie and Bolg. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwym ]Feb 21 23:44
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW-IgJHM3cYFeb 21 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit - Azog's army arrives - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwyz ]Feb 21 23:45
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t57AVYNcyBQFeb 21 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit - The epic battle begins - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwza ]Feb 21 23:47
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20F0Ms0GjoYFeb 21 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit - People of Laketown fight back part 1 - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwzx ]Feb 21 23:50
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LMIRK6riIcFeb 21 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit - These bats are bred for one purpose... for war - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrx10 ]Feb 21 23:54
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DaemonFCApple says it will make a self-driving car.Feb 15 00:56
DaemonFCThat means that if you end up in a country that hasn't existed in 40 years or on an airport runway, you have only yourself to blame. :)Feb 15 00:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Firefox 36 Won't Bring Native YouTube HTML5Feb 15 02:37
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DaemonFChttp://www.zdnet.com/article/top-android-news-of-the-week-shipments-drop-for-first-time-android-wear-shipments-not-big-royalty/Feb 15 02:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Top Android news of the week: Shipments drop, Android Wear not big, royalty battle ends | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jqdom ]Feb 15 02:51
DaemonFCThe other shoe drops. Samsung announces that Microsoft's bloated crapware will be integrated into the Galaxy S6 and Microsoft drops the patent lawsuits against Samsung.Feb 15 02:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/LinuxSocist/status/566843474779992064Feb 15 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LinuxSocist: @schestowitz The same Police that have been corrupt tactics against Freetown Christiana for the past 40 years?Feb 15 03:14
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/onlygoodcomez/status/566891865706754049Feb 15 05:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@onlygoodcomez: @schestowitz @HeartPowered nothing could preventd them as the plans were to be followed true to suit whoever 'planned them" #falseflagsFeb 15 05:43
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/deusexstigma/status/566912974590205952Feb 15 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@deusexstigma: @schestowitz bullshit....covering their ass, why?...everyone knows they are War Criminals.Feb 15 06:01
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schestowitzhttp://www.universityherald.com/articles/15905/20150214/harvard-and-mit-accused-in-lawsuit-of-discriminating-against-the-deaf-in-online-courses.htmFeb 15 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.universityherald.com | Harvard and MIT Accused in Lawsuit of Discriminating Against the Deaf in Online Courses : News : University Herald [ http://ur1.ca/jqfa1 ]Feb 15 07:57
schestowitzhttp://townhall.com/columnists/marknuckols/2015/02/13/why-we-cant-trust-vladimir-putin-n1956760Feb 15 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-townhall.com | Why We Can't Trust Vladimir Putin - Mark Nuckols - Page 1 [ http://ur1.ca/jqfal ]Feb 15 08:00
schestowitz"Vladimir Putin is a gangster at the head of a criminal state. Unfortunately, Russia is a nuclear armed criminal state run by ignorant and dishonest thugs. We simply cannot rely on the Kremlin to deal in good faith or perhaps even act rationally. The threat posed by this aggressor state can’t be simply ignored, but rather must be resolutely confronted and contained. "Feb 15 08:00
schestowitzhttp://www.laprensasa.com/309_america-in-english/2945004_cuban-journalist-who-wrote-about-fidel-castro-dies.htmlFeb 15 08:16
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/glynco/status/566959840358957056   https://twitter.com/glynco/status/566960970933624835Feb 15 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz and torture actually makes us less safe http://t.co/QrEhMoFx0tFeb 15 09:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynco: @schestowitz more on the voodoo science of torture designed by the modern day equivalent of snake oil salesmen http://t.co/mo32bPVwrZFeb 15 09:04
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schestowitz80 million dollarsFeb 15 09:04
schestowitzmsb: #cia is now pursuing weather warfare http://marketbusinessnews.com/weaponized-weather-inquiry-alarms-rutgers-university-climate-scientist/48186 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2954051/Chill-factor-CIA-weather-query.htmlFeb 15 09:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Chill factor at 'cia' weather query | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jqfzg ]Feb 15 09:51
schestowitznot to be confused with that "chemtrail" BSFeb 15 09:51
schestowitz"Feb 15 10:31
schestowitz"As far as we are aware, the fee scheme for the Unitary Patent has not yet been officially agreed, i.e. it is still under discussion."Feb 15 10:31
schestowitzWe attach the document without comment, in the hope that it might be of interest to you.Feb 15 10:31
schestowitzWe forgot the attachment - but the document could be retrieved via the link we gave ... :-)Feb 15 10:31
schestowitz"Feb 15 10:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JohnDiNardo/status/566982321031872513Feb 15 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnDiNardo: @schestowitz Nétanyahou Arrangé Faux Paris Fussilade à Inciter à la Haine à l'égard des Musulmans. http://t.co/llpjSmrTohFeb 15 10:38
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     elementary OS: is financial support the onlyFeb 15 12:15
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schestowitz> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.isoFeb 15 12:27
schestowitz> Feb 15 12:27
schestowitz> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.ascFeb 15 12:27
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schestowitz> http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.shaFeb 15 12:27
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schestowitz> do not use this in production, this is an internal preview (not even anFeb 15 12:27
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5588112Feb 15 12:32
schestowitz"@sticks_us no, GNU people are hostile with us in fact. We are free software community but they seggregate us because of the license. We just react to this hypocrisy. I had joined in a free software activist group 1 year ago when I was a GNU fan and Debian fan, to the misfortune of them was at the same time I started getting interested in other Unix-like systems (BSD specifically), at the same time OpenBSD project was needing money to Feb 15 12:32
schestowitzkeep the project alive or will die. I went there in IRC channel of that group there to ask to donate to OpenBSD or it could die if it did not receive donation and it is a free software project. The answer I received was: "I won't donate do a project that it's not GPL.". this is a sociopathic attitude, no empathy. After that I left the group because they did not advocate free software, just the product that they loved as fanboys. Now I Feb 15 12:32
schestowitzam a really skeptical and critical about this GNU community. They lie about free software."Feb 15 12:32
schestowitzThere are legitimate reasons for FSF not to support OpenBSD. First, Theo de Raadt smears RMS. Second, UNIX is not GNU/Linux.Feb 15 12:33
MinceRperhaps they don't want to pay for something to be developed that is a gift to abusive corporationsFeb 15 12:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222Feb 15 12:36
schestowitz"http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"Feb 15 12:36
schestowitzproving that mass surveillance is not neededFeb 15 12:36
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873Feb 15 12:37
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567014578337615873Feb 15 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz ah, but they'll just say that's because there isn't enough of it :(Feb 15 12:38
schestowitz[17:42] <schestowitz> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600222Feb 15 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The assailant, PET the Danish Intelligence service confirmed a moment ago, was known to them." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597663 #surveillance failFeb 15 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #police on the ground - not mass #surveillance - secures #denmark http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_DENMARK_SHOTS_FIRED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-02-14-19-34-22Feb 15 12:39
schestowitz[17:42] <schestowitz> "http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/14/copenhagen-cartoonist-charlie-hebdo-style-attack"Feb 15 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Copenhagen shootings suspect was 'known to police' | World news | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jqgyr ]Feb 15 12:39
schestowitzThe public will buy itFeb 15 12:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015450534739968Feb 15 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz more worrying is precedent that all we do/say/download should be run past 'thought police' in case is or will become 'bad'Feb 15 12:40
schestowitzNot because of terrorism but perhaps journalism, leaks, etc.Feb 15 12:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567015916463198210Feb 15 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz not all of us !Feb 15 12:43
XRevan86I don't get it: http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux this only package in Devuan is built only for amd64Feb 15 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.devuan.org | Index of /devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux/ [ http://ur1.ca/jqgzv ]Feb 15 12:45
XRevan86and preaplpha is only for i386Feb 15 12:45
XRevan86pre-alpha*Feb 15 12:45
XRevan86I don't understand what this image has to offer.Feb 15 12:46
MinceRthe iso was probably built on some developer's own machineFeb 15 12:46
XRevan86MinceR: Why repo is amd64-only then?Feb 15 12:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/567016422057193472Feb 15 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz think it's about the motive & because can. The 'excuse'-war on drugs/terror/immigration/copyright violation increasingly secondFeb 15 12:46
MinceRi don't knowFeb 15 12:46
schestowitzindeed, and they get the data too (DEA)Feb 15 12:47
MinceRi don't even know if what is built by Jenkins goes into the repo linked aboveFeb 15 12:47
schestowitzme neitherFeb 15 12:47
schestowitzMinceR: it's not a final product, far from itFeb 15 12:47
schestowitzbut at least they build somethingFeb 15 12:48
MinceRindeedFeb 15 12:48
XRevan86Maybe they have some another repo?Feb 15 12:49
XRevan86Because… they are removing systemd-shim via ugly postinst in devuan-baseconfFeb 15 12:50
XRevan86and policykit-1 package requires libpam-systemdFeb 15 12:50
XRevan86ah, wait, I am silly, they're removing systemd-sysvFeb 15 12:50
XRevan86then it's okay, but still, this .iso of theirs must contain systemdFeb 15 12:51
MinceRi haven't installed it yetFeb 15 12:51
XRevan86Me neither, I'm just theorizing :)Feb 15 12:51
cubexyzmaybe it's time for GentooFeb 15 12:52
XRevan86Xfce requires polkit, polkit requires libpam-systemd, libpam-systemd requires systemd with shim or not.Feb 15 12:52
MinceRgentoo can likely do things devuan won't doFeb 15 12:52
MinceRlike removing polkit and consolekit and dependencies to themFeb 15 12:52
XRevan86and packages.devuan.org doesn't provide an override for itFeb 15 12:52
MinceR(that is, building a full system that does not include them nor depends on them)Feb 15 12:52
XRevan86MinceR: They won't because that's a strange thing to do.Feb 15 12:52
MinceR(i don't know yet how well it will work, but i'm planning to try)Feb 15 12:53
XRevan86what they should do is build polkit without systemdFeb 15 12:53
MinceRi don't think that trying to remove more of poettering & co's crappy code would be "a strange thing to do"Feb 15 12:53
XRevan86MinceR: And so every happy Devuan user will reboot his PC with "shutdown -r now"Feb 15 12:54
MinceRi don't know about "every happy devuan user"Feb 15 12:54
MinceRbut it would be fine for meFeb 15 12:54
XRevan86and that's ConsoleKitFeb 15 12:55
MinceRcertainly preferable than trying to figure out by trial and error yet again how to fix things when something like udisks2 silently diesFeb 15 12:55
XRevan86polkit… I don't know if one can detach it from Xfce or other DEFeb 15 12:55
MinceRand the documentation says nothing about how it's supposed to be started, because magicFeb 15 12:55
MinceRi can live without a DEFeb 15 12:55
MinceRthe point is that in gentoo you can do stuff with dependencies that a binary distro could not easily allow you to doFeb 15 12:56
MinceRbecause there are only so many versions of the same package worth buildingFeb 15 12:57
cubexyzyesFeb 15 12:57
XRevan86MinceR: It also mixes builddeps with regular ones so if something requires libsystemd…Feb 15 12:57
XRevan86or libpulseFeb 15 12:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/566976942327742464Feb 15 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JesselynRadack: NYT: "Even when no idea who did #Copenhagen shootings, @twitter was ablaze w/ anti- #Muslim vitriol" http://t.co/yq3b0VS3jx #IslamophobiaFeb 15 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log InFeb 15 13:01
schestowitzEven without footage from CCTV the choice of first target have away the religionFeb 15 13:01
XRevan86MinceR: Anyway, systemd is not what causes my issue with Devuan.Feb 15 13:02
XRevan86it's just… they called themselved Veteran UNIX Admins, they asked for donations without having a productFeb 15 13:03
XRevan86people advertized DevuanFeb 15 13:03
XRevan86and now they're doing stuff so slow I am starting to wonder if they know what they're doingFeb 15 13:03
cubexyzUnix traditionalists wouldn't use Linux thoughFeb 15 13:03
cubexyzthey would use one of the BSDsFeb 15 13:03
XRevan86cubexyz: There is a special group of 'Unixers' who use OS XFeb 15 13:04
cubexyzsure, there's lots of groupsFeb 15 13:04
MinceRyes, there are people who play with that toy and call it unix, even though it isn'tFeb 15 13:04
XRevan86they tend to call themselves unixoidsFeb 15 13:04
cubexyzthere's groups for AIX and everything one can imagineFeb 15 13:04
MinceRand i don't particularly care who pays The "Open" Group this week for the trademarkFeb 15 13:05
XRevan86cubexyz: I mean, a bit lot of people who call themselves users of Unix are users of OS XFeb 15 13:05
MinceRcall an unreliable, insecure, shiny toy by any name, it will still be an unreliable, insecure, shiny toyFeb 15 13:05
XRevan86a big*Feb 15 13:05
cubexyzXRevan86, the real hackers want source code thoughFeb 15 13:05
cubexyzthey like writing code, fixing it, etcFeb 15 13:05
XRevan86and so I suspect VUA in being onesFeb 15 13:05
MinceRXRevan86: there are many projects that ask for donations before their first releaseFeb 15 13:06
MinceRthere's crowdfunding, for exampleFeb 15 13:06
XRevan86MinceR: These project are big and major.Feb 15 13:06
MinceRno, not all of them areFeb 15 13:06
XRevan86Devuan did nothing serious since the beginning.Feb 15 13:06
MinceRthen don't donate to themFeb 15 13:07
cubexyzXRevan86, there's some pretty serious PDP-11 hackers stillFeb 15 13:07
XRevan86MinceR: I don't, still I know people who did. I don't understand them.Feb 15 13:07
MinceRyeah, how dare they support a project that didn't get to its first release in one day?Feb 15 13:08
cubexyzMinceR, start up a crowdfunding thing for Anti-Systemd :)Feb 15 13:08
MinceRi don't think i need toFeb 15 13:08
XRevan86MinceR: s/one day/several months/;s/first release/serveral packages like patched polkit/Feb 15 13:09
MinceRif enough people want to maintain a debian wheezy-like reliable non-rolling non-systemd distro, that's nice and i'll use itFeb 15 13:09
MinceRif not, i'll just get by with bedrock and gentooFeb 15 13:09
MinceRif that fails, i'll go to netbsd or whateverFeb 15 13:09
MinceReven if IT goes to hell, they can't prevent me from running a release that's still saneFeb 15 13:10
cubexyzhard to imagine every distro going systemdFeb 15 13:10
cubexyzI'm sure there will be some hold-outsFeb 15 13:10
MinceRi hope soFeb 15 13:10
MinceRbut i don't know if it will happenFeb 15 13:11
XRevan86All those Devuan donations could go to Gentoo, for instance :)Feb 15 13:14
MinceRyeah, who needs diversity?Feb 15 13:15
XRevan86or if not Devuan then maybe some other group of people would do the jobFeb 15 13:15
cubexyzI run a lot of old stuff, it's not going to disappearFeb 15 13:15
MinceRso it doesn't matter who does it, as long as it's not Devuan? :>Feb 15 13:15
XRevan86MinceR: No, you don't see my point.Feb 15 13:15
XRevan86Devuan had a lot of fuss, really a lot.Feb 15 13:16
XRevan86and a lot of donationsFeb 15 13:16
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XRevan86and they didn't do anything worthy this attention and moneyFeb 15 13:16
MinceRi haven't seen the "fuss" and don't know how much money they gotFeb 15 13:18
XRevan86MinceR: I've seen several pages on habrahabr about them with lots of commentsFeb 15 13:18
XRevan86major Russian IT blogging networkFeb 15 13:19
MinceRi don't read habrahabrFeb 15 13:19
MinceRand i don't understand much of russianFeb 15 13:19
XRevan86MinceR: Point is: Devuan got a lot of attention.Feb 15 13:19
XRevan86and they wanted it, just read http://debianfork.org/Feb 15 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debianfork.org | Devuan - the GNU/Linux by Veteran Unix Admins.Feb 15 13:20
MinceRon a russian websiteFeb 15 13:20
XRevan86MinceR: I read russian websites so no wonder I'm talking about them :)Feb 15 13:20
MinceRand i don't know how many experienced [ex-]debian package maintainers are working on itFeb 15 13:21
cubexyzdo Russians use Linux a lot?Feb 15 13:21
MinceRseems to be a more significant limit to productivity than donationsFeb 15 13:21
XRevan86cubexyz: Not really.Feb 15 13:21
XRevan86cubexyz: Just like everywhere else.Feb 15 13:21
cubexyzI thought Putin was trying to move people in that directionFeb 15 13:22
cubexyzbut yeah, I talk to the odd Russian Linux personFeb 15 13:23
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, there is an idea to move government sector and schools to GNU/Linux.Feb 15 13:23
XRevan86but the product of this idea is… nothing, really.Feb 15 13:24
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XRevan86A lot of hatred toward Linux from school teachersFeb 15 13:24
MinceRif it's anything like hungary (another post-communist mafia state) then it depends on which vendor pays more in bribes at the momentFeb 15 13:24
MinceRright, also, underfunded teachers sucking at their jobFeb 15 13:25
MinceR"but i can't learn anything new!"Feb 15 13:25
XRevan86MinceR: Yeah, kinda like that.Feb 15 13:25
cubexyzALT Linux is RussianFeb 15 13:25
XRevan86cubexyz: And it sucks.Feb 15 13:25
cubexyzwe have OpenBSD in Canada, along with Vector LinuxFeb 15 13:25
cubexyzXRevan86, ok :)Feb 15 13:25
cubexyzI've never tried itFeb 15 13:25
XRevan86cubexyz: I've seen ALT Linux once (4.0 School Edition) in 2010, I think.Feb 15 13:26
cubexyzI use FC1 (ancient) and OpenBSD, plus I do a lot of classic computingFeb 15 13:26
cubexyzthis box I'm on now is OpenBSDFeb 15 13:26
XRevan86I've wiped rootfs by apt-get dist-upgradeFeb 15 13:27
XRevan86I just don't know what went wrong.Feb 15 13:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/englobalnewsp/status/567025653195616257Feb 15 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@englobalnewsp: @schestowitz White House threatens to veto http://t.co/f9oCAdKoi4Feb 15 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | White House threatens to veto bill limiting Gitmo transfers - YouTubeFeb 15 13:27
cubexyzI think KDE 3.5.10 had pretty good keyboard support so you could use a lot of different languagesFeb 15 13:28
XRevan86cubexyz: Government doesn't even use LibreOffice.Feb 15 13:29
XRevan86Linux and stuff are just words to get money for them.Feb 15 13:29
XRevan86Talks about government structures moving to Linux are going since 2009.Feb 15 13:30
cubexyzI know Russia had Elektronika series, like BK-0010, which was a DEC cloneFeb 15 13:30
cubexyzso I know some Russians like Unix Feb 15 13:31
XRevan86cubexyz: That's USSR.Feb 15 13:31
XRevan86cubexyz: I know a lot of Russians who like Unix :).Feb 15 13:32
cubexyzElektronika MS-0501 looked pretty goodFeb 15 13:33
cubexyznot sure how expensive it was thoughFeb 15 13:33
cubexyzyes, I guess that must have been USSR eraFeb 15 13:34
XRevan86cubexyz: Yeah.Feb 15 13:34
XRevan86cubexyz: The only Russian (Federation) project I know about is Elbrus.Feb 15 13:35
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbrus_%28computer%29Feb 15 13:35
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XRevan86cubexyz: Of course, it is used in masses by… no one.Feb 15 13:35
cubexyzI wish we did have an affordable PDP-11 clone in CanadaFeb 15 13:36
cubexyzthere's just FPGA ones, nothing ready out of the boxFeb 15 13:36
XRevan86cubexyz: Trick is that USSR was a different country with different science potential.Feb 15 13:39
MinceRgreatly stunted science potential, thanks to communismFeb 15 13:41
XRevan86MinceR: And you sure we're living in communismFeb 15 13:41
XRevan86I heard it's called capitalismFeb 15 13:41
MinceRthey called it that some of the timeFeb 15 13:42
MinceRthey renamed it like m$ renames their shitFeb 15 13:42
XRevan86MinceR: So, you're saying 80s are the time communism happend to USSRFeb 15 13:42
MinceRi'm not sure i understandFeb 15 13:43
XRevan86and 90s are the time when communism was rebranded to capitalismFeb 15 13:43
cubexyzso you go into a Russia computer store and it's all Windows and AppleFeb 15 13:43
MinceRwell, yes, and it was supposed to have been replacedFeb 15 13:43
cubexyzand some Android I guessFeb 15 13:43
XRevan86MinceR: Soviet science died in 90sFeb 15 13:43
MinceRand then we realized that not much changedFeb 15 13:43
MinceRthanks to putinFeb 15 13:43
XRevan86MinceR: I see a lot of changes.Feb 15 13:43
XRevan86Dead science, dead manufacture…Feb 15 13:44
cubexyzhmmmFeb 15 13:44
XRevan86But the name is YeltsinFeb 15 13:44
XRevan86cubexyz: And some FreeDOSFeb 15 13:44
XRevan86maybe even GNU/Linux, this also happensFeb 15 13:45
cubexyzXRevan86, there's a little bit of Linux and BSD in very small computer stores in CanadaFeb 15 13:45
XRevan86Acer sells some laptops with LinpusFeb 15 13:45
cubexyzit's definitely a fringe thingFeb 15 13:45
XRevan86cubexyz: Same here, of course.Feb 15 13:45
MinceRXRevan86: i mean, the realization was due to putinFeb 15 13:45
XRevan86MinceR: Realization of what?Feb 15 13:46
MinceRthat practically the same thing as the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the worldFeb 15 13:46
cubexyzLinpus is Taiwanese I thinkFeb 15 13:46
cubexyzI tried it once, wasn't too goodFeb 15 13:46
MinceRand is still non-democratic, still oppressiveFeb 15 13:46
XRevan86> the soviet union is still around and still threatening the rest of the worldFeb 15 13:47
XRevan86HmmFeb 15 13:47
XRevan86United States is a union in a wayFeb 15 13:47
XRevan86and Soviet == CouncilFeb 15 13:47
XRevan86US has one…Feb 15 13:47
MinceRthe USA is a different entityFeb 15 13:47
MinceRand a different kind of threatFeb 15 13:48
XRevan86MinceR: What kind of threat USSR was?Feb 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     devuan is live (preview only) Feb 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Rt5YfgryTI (mirror.debianfork.org)Feb 15 13:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     elementary OS: is financial support the onlyFeb 15 13:48
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MinceRa lot could be said about thatFeb 15 13:49
XRevan86First democratic decision in Russia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_referendum,_1991Feb 15 13:49
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XRevan8676% of Soviet citizens voted for keeping USSR.Feb 15 13:51
cubexyzwow, I didn't know thatFeb 15 13:52
XRevan86But oppressive USSR government desided not to listen.Feb 15 13:52
MinceRthere still exist plenty of people in hungary who are deluded enough to believe that life was better under that empireFeb 15 13:52
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MinceRno wonder hungary is dying.Feb 15 13:52
MinceRthey put a new dictatorship in place of the old one, after 20 years of democracyFeb 15 13:53
XRevan86I really know nothing about Hungary.Feb 15 13:53
cubexyzit's interesting to hear what goes on in different countriesFeb 15 13:53
XRevan86cubexyz: It's hard to find good sources of information.Feb 15 13:54
schestowitzhttp://mrpogson.com/Feb 15 13:56
schestowitz"Valentine’s Day is an ancient tradition, mutated from a story of love and devotion by a martyr to a commercial period on the calendar. We all know it’s silly, but it’s fun, and we all love chocolate and roses and…"Feb 15 13:56
XRevan86MinceR: What threat USSR was exactly?Feb 15 13:58
XRevan86I still don't know.Feb 15 13:59
MinceRa military threat as well as a force that tried to force its own brand of dictatorship over ever more countriesFeb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 is Live !Feb 15 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/z1ZJD4D2Nf (makululinux.com) couldFeb 15 14:01
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MinceRand the economies of the oppressed countries were wrecked by themFeb 15 14:01
XRevan86MinceR: Like Iraq?Feb 15 14:01
MinceRfor the sake of religious belief in their anti-economicsFeb 15 14:02
MinceRlike the whole eastern blocFeb 15 14:02
XRevan86and Libiya?Feb 15 14:02
XRevan86or maybe even worse? O_OFeb 15 14:02
XRevan86In GDR people sucked dirt.Feb 15 14:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0Feb 15 14:03
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XRevan86East Germany*Feb 15 14:03
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XRevan86Of course, those who were still alive.Feb 15 14:04
XRevan86and all that just because USSR wanted German oil.Feb 15 14:04
MinceRi didn't know about thatFeb 15 14:04
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MinceRdid germany have oil?Feb 15 14:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Release of KDE Frameworks 5.7.0Feb 15 14:04
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XRevan86MinceR: Me neither.Feb 15 14:05
XRevan86MinceR: s/USSR/US/;s/Germany/$PLACE_A_COUNTRY/Feb 15 14:06
XRevan86MinceR: Okay, even if we assume socialist countries were terrible and awful and now they live like godsFeb 15 14:07
XRevan86MinceR: This is still not a military threatFeb 15 14:07
MinceRthen read up on what russia did in hungary in 1956.Feb 15 14:08
XRevan86MinceR: Stalin's time, I see.Feb 15 14:11
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MinceRwas i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?Feb 15 14:20
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MinceR202051 <@MinceR> was i supposed to talk about what the USSR did when it no longer existed?Feb 15 14:25
XRevan86MinceR: hmm?Feb 15 14:25
XRevan86MinceR: I'm reading Wikipedia about the rebellion :)Feb 15 14:25
MinceR:)Feb 15 14:26
XRevan86I see rebels were quite nice guysFeb 15 14:27
XRevan86Wikipedia says something about acid but I can't find a photoFeb 15 14:28
XRevan86> Photographs showed victims with signs of tortureFeb 15 14:29
XRevan86Okay, I don't want to look at thisFeb 15 14:30
XRevan86very… nice… guysFeb 15 14:30
XRevan86> The leaders of all states, including Poland, Yugoslavia, China, which initially welcomed the Hungarian events, agreed that the state in Hungary can be saved only through armed interventionFeb 15 14:32
XRevan86MinceR: This doesn't seem to be a good example of true evilness of USSR.Feb 15 14:34
XRevan86too controversialFeb 15 14:34
MinceRnot according to the USSR and their puppets, certainlyFeb 15 14:34
MinceRthis is a "controversy" like evolution isFeb 15 14:35
XRevan86MinceR: I guess Wikipedia is one of them.Feb 15 14:35
XRevan86MinceR: I didn't quote anything %).Feb 15 14:35
XRevan86everything*Feb 15 14:35
MinceRafaik there is at least one russian nationalist clique that has power over wikipediaFeb 15 14:35
XRevan86MinceR: The most controversial part is what these rebels did.Feb 15 14:37
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/2/2c/Защитники_горкома_ВПТ._Будапешт._30_окт_1956.jpgFeb 15 14:37
MinceRof course, everyone who dares oppose the Holy Russian Empire must be a devil.Feb 15 14:38
schestowitzhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/05/07/1207471/-Thanks-to-abstinence-teaching-Elizabeth-Smart-felt-I-m-that-chewed-up-piece-of-gumFeb 15 14:38
XRevan86damn, english version has a different structureFeb 15 14:39
XRevan86hard to find parallelsFeb 15 14:39
MinceRshould have started thereFeb 15 14:39
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schestowitz[19:41] <MinceR> this is a "controversy" like evolution isFeb 15 14:40
schestowitzIt is controversialFeb 15 14:40
schestowitzVeryFeb 15 14:40
schestowitzNot for the Catholic Church thoughFeb 15 14:40
schestowitzas they already accept it, unlike most of the dumb followersFeb 15 14:41
XRevan86I think Russian Orphodox still didn'tFeb 15 14:41
schestowitzThough I think the Church will say, "God started Evolution"Feb 15 14:41
XRevan86Orthodox*Feb 15 14:41
MinceRthe catholic pope might, i'm not sure about the rest of the priestsFeb 15 14:41
schestowitzthey're too busy thinking about the childrenFeb 15 14:42
MinceRlolFeb 15 14:42
XRevan86> There were approximately 213 Hungarian Working People's Party members lynched or executed during this periodFeb 15 14:42
XRevan86English Wikipedia is not much into details %)Feb 15 14:43
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schestowitzThe Soviet Union and the United States are different because of transparencyFeb 15 14:43
schestowitzIn Russia you get thrown out the window if you dare effectively criticise the regimeFeb 15 14:44
schestowitzUS dropped to 49th in press freedomFeb 15 14:44
MinceRand because there's still some degree of freedom of speech and democracy in the USAFeb 15 14:44
schestowitzRussia is almost 200thFeb 15 14:44
schestowitzUS used to be much better, now dropping closer to USSRFeb 15 14:44
MinceRnot always thrown out the window, some people get imprisoned insteadFeb 15 14:44
MinceRsay, for insulting the official cult of the state :>Feb 15 14:45
XRevan86schestowitz: I heard about silencing and stuff but throwing out of the window…Feb 15 14:45
XRevan86schestowitz: Have you heard about Lenta.ru?Feb 15 14:45
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenta.ruFeb 15 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Lenta.ru - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 15 14:46
XRevan86schestowitz: The reason for this replacement is an interview with one of the leaders of Right sector Andrey Tarasenko (from Russian Wikipedia)Feb 15 14:48
XRevan86strange that English one didn't mention thatFeb 15 14:49
XRevan86And former editor-in-chief is not in jail or thrown out of the window but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MeduzaFeb 15 14:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Meduza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 15 14:50
*XRevan86 really doesn't like exaggerations.Feb 15 14:51
*MinceR isn't sure if this is concrete case is what schestowitz was talking aboutFeb 15 14:51
XRevan86http://crunchbangplusplus.org/Feb 15 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-crunchbangplusplus.org | #!++ Coming SoonFeb 15 14:52
XRevan86MinceR: It's the only fresh one I know.Feb 15 14:52
MinceRdoes #!++ use systemd by default?Feb 15 14:53
XRevan86MinceR: No idea.Feb 15 14:53
XRevan86MinceR: It is openbox-based.Feb 15 14:53
XRevan86So in either way it is fixable by installing/removing systemd :)Feb 15 14:53
MinceRi'm not sure about thatFeb 15 14:54
XRevan86MinceR: It's Debian, you know.Feb 15 14:54
MinceRfor example, its display manager might have a hard dependencyFeb 15 14:54
XRevan86Actually, I have no idea what crunchbang used as a DM. Not gdm for sure though.Feb 15 14:54
MinceRlightdm, perhapsFeb 15 14:55
MinceRno, slimFeb 15 14:55
XRevan86I vote for slimFeb 15 14:55
XRevan86:DFeb 15 14:55
cubexyzsurely it's not hard to add the DM you want?Feb 15 14:58
MinceRhopefullyFeb 15 14:59
cubexyzI added icewm to openbsdFeb 15 14:59
XRevan86cubexyz: It is Debian.Feb 15 14:59
MinceRi've heard a ridiculous amount of packages depend on systemd crapFeb 15 14:59
XRevan86+ custom repoFeb 15 14:59
XRevan86trick is to find out what that repo is :)Feb 15 15:00
cubexyzon vector I got a ton of different ones: fvwm, icewm, kde, mwm, ratpoison, twm, xfce 4 and failsafeFeb 15 15:00
XRevan86I know where crunch's wasFeb 15 15:00
cubexyzfailsafe is just X and xterm :)Feb 15 15:00
cubexyzno window manager reallyFeb 15 15:00
XRevan86https://github.com/computermouth/cbpp/tree/master/CBPP_beta_02132015_src/localp uhm…Feb 15 15:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | cbpp/CBPP_beta_02132015_src/localp at master · computermouth/cbpp · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/jqhpu ]Feb 15 15:01
XRevan86what I am looking at?Feb 15 15:01
XRevan86> The packages on github and the .iso were solely intended to provide a proof-of-conceptFeb 15 15:02
XRevan86ah, goodFeb 15 15:02
cubexyzthis is what happens when everyone gets too dependent on distrosFeb 15 15:03
XRevan86cubexyz: What do you mean?Feb 15 15:04
cubexyzXRevan86, they get less knowledgeable and a bit lazyFeb 15 15:04
cubexyzold school Linux was a roll your own affairFeb 15 15:04
XRevan86cubexyz: You're talking about systemd or crunch?Feb 15 15:04
cubexyzXRevan86, I'm not really referring to a specific distro, just the fact everyone now expects everything to be 'easy'Feb 15 15:05
XRevan86cubexyz: I don't, I break 'easy' stuff too easily.Feb 15 15:06
cubexyzI put over 100 hours into my first coreboot installFeb 15 15:06
XRevan86I don't know what's wrong with me, I can't work with stuff I don't understand.Feb 15 15:07
cubexyzsometimes you just have to put the extra time inFeb 15 15:07
cubexyzXRevan86, well which distro do you like?Feb 15 15:07
XRevan86cubexyz: From what perspective?Feb 15 15:07
cubexyzuseability, normal day to day workFeb 15 15:08
XRevan86cubexyz: Debian.Feb 15 15:08
XRevan86But I use openSUSE :).Feb 15 15:08
XRevan86because I like the way maintainership is made in it.Feb 15 15:09
XRevan86Debian + Open Build Service infrastructure == distro from my dreamsFeb 15 15:10
cubexyzeverything was going fine with Linux, then Fedora 15, boom, systemdFeb 15 15:12
XRevan86cubexyz: I didn't see Fedora until recently.Feb 15 15:13
XRevan86It's an awful distribution.Feb 15 15:13
XRevan86But I don't see what this has to do with systemdFeb 15 15:13
XRevan86dnf and yum will be awful even without itFeb 15 15:13
cubexyzPoettering works for Red HatFeb 15 15:14
cubexyzit's like systemd central nowFeb 15 15:14
XRevan86cubexyz: I know. I still don't think he broke yum :)Feb 15 15:15
cubexyzwhat's wrong with yum?Feb 15 15:15
XRevan861. terrible way of adding/modifying reposFeb 15 15:15
XRevan862. slow startup with stupid verbose output of what yum plans to do (fixed in dnf)Feb 15 15:16
XRevan863. failure results to dublicate packages, fixable via a separate utilityFeb 15 15:17
XRevan864. all output is just a mess (fixed in dnf)Feb 15 15:18
XRevan865. dnf is not feature-richFeb 15 15:18
cubexyzok, well I'm off Fedora unless you include older versionsFeb 15 15:20
cubexyzFC1 is so old I'm upgrading my source onlyFeb 15 15:20
cubexyzwhat do you think of pkg_add or Portage?Feb 15 15:20
XRevan86cubexyz: I haven't seen pkg_addFeb 15 15:21
XRevan86Portage is complicated and slow, but I can understand why.Feb 15 15:21
cubexyzXRevan86, you might like itFeb 15 15:21
cubexyzThat's what OpenBSD usesFeb 15 15:21
cubexyzalso every repo will eventually disappearFeb 15 15:22
cubexyzunless someone maintains hosting for itFeb 15 15:22
cubexyzof course, the old method was just tarballsFeb 15 15:23
XRevan86cubexyz: Well, I don't put PM on a first place. But Fedora's is so terrible…Feb 15 15:25
XRevan86What else Fedora can propose to compensate that?Feb 15 15:25
cubexyzok, I basically agree, but for different reasonsFeb 15 15:26
cubexyzI'm using slackware based distros and BSD nowFeb 15 15:26
XRevan86different indeedFeb 15 15:27
MinceRyum is unreliableFeb 15 15:27
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, that's a good description of it.Feb 15 15:27
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600928Feb 15 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #devuan is live (preview only) http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.asc http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.shaFeb 15 16:30
schestowitz"Feb 15 16:30
schestowitzInteresting, it might be worth to check it.Feb 15 16:30
schestowitzMeanwhile yesterday I finally tried Debian Jessie, I installed it from scratch to get the true experience, systemd and all. After taking a lot of time to install, maybe because I used a virtual machine, I booted it and noticed lots of daemons and services up, none known or directly useful to me.Feb 15 16:30
schestowitzSo the gdm login screen appeared and without doing anything but waiting something like an X terminal appeared and gdm got restarted. Waited more and saw that a couple of times more. Tried to login and the same happened in the middle of Gnome startup. Tried with Gnome and Gnome Classic and got the same.Feb 15 16:30
schestowitzHave no idea if this is related to systemd or not, but instead of wasting time trying to debug this I'm more compelled to spend time migrating to OpenBSD.Feb 15 16:30
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MinceR"Journalists and DWN editors reading: please do not link this. We willFeb 15 16:31
MinceRhave another more public release soon :^) Let it be a private valentine "Feb 15 16:31
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5601543Feb 15 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: End of the #m0n0wall project http://m0n0.ch/wall/end_announcement.php #bsd #unixFeb 15 16:31
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schestowitz"That's really sad. I really liked m0n0wall. But I haven't used it myself for quite a long time... It was a good firewall and a router for my needs in the day."Feb 15 16:31
schestowitzAnyone can make a successor to it, like happens with Crunchbang now....Feb 15 16:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5597681Feb 15 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "France’s ambassador to Denmark.. police officers who “saved [his] life” in the shooting." http://www.buzzfeed.com/alisonvingiano/copenhagen-shooting?utm_term=.xpMVpXQve&sub=3668607_4986563#.jhr535AAB #surveillance didn't helpFeb 15 16:32
schestowitz"In the sixties Denmark imported people for the working force especially from Tyrkey. After that a a constant stream of people has come here - fugetives, Family reunification and migrants. We are one of the richest nations on Earth, with very good welfare. It is not strange that people want to come here."Feb 15 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.buzzfeed.com | Police Kill Suspect In Two Deadly Copenhagen Shootings - BuzzFeed News [ http://ur1.ca/jqg1d ]Feb 15 16:32
schestowitz"I just talked to one of the employees of a local roast chicken joint (I live in Nørrebro where the moron came from)He said: I don't call him a terrorist, just a young boy who had enough. I am sure he knew who it was. It was 100 m from where they shoot him. And it is true. The young assailant probably knew less about Islam than I do. He simply do what some young men do - go amok. He could have just killed a local pusher and nobody Feb 15 16:33
schestowitzwould have cared. Now it was in the rich part of Copenhagen and targeted at the Swedish artist. That makes a difference for everybody else (and it should). But this guy could have thrown his life away in so many ways."Feb 15 16:33
MinceRit certainly made a difference for the artistFeb 15 16:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CrunchBang rises from the ashesFeb 15 16:52
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MinceRi want red hat to contain themselvesFeb 15 17:03
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MinceRhttp://economixcomix.com/home/tpp/Feb 15 19:06
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cubexyzyou get the cheap stuff, but you lose jobs or...Feb 15 19:37
cubexyzyou keep the jobs, and don't get cheap stuffFeb 15 19:37
MinceRand in the end the cheap stuff turns out not to be cheapFeb 15 19:38
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5600929Feb 16 03:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: devuan is live (preview only) http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.asc http://mirror.debianfork.org/devuan-jessie-i386-xfce-prealpha-valentine.iso.shaFeb 16 03:32
schestowitz"I do not care about the systemd vs linux debate but it is nice to have alternatives."Feb 16 03:32
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msbWith friends like that...Feb 16 03:44
msbI think the kernel should be folded into systemd.  Then maybe Linus would wake up and say something.Feb 16 03:49
msbIn fact, just put Windows 10 in there and forget about the kernel.Feb 16 03:51
DaemonFChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgZRIqoq70MFeb 16 04:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 Reasons To Use Linux Mint And Not UbuntuFeb 16 06:26
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TweetTuxMachines @speedytux      Feb 16 06:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqmj6Feb 16 06:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 – Prometheus (64bit)Feb 16 06:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xhKqJFJ3bp (www.netrunner.com)Feb 16 06:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqmj7Feb 16 06:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: The Best-PerformingFeb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Smartwatch Yet http://t.co/1lXy9FVguxFeb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gizmodo.com.au)Feb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqmncFeb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYDFeb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqmndFeb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 – Prometheus (64bit)Feb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6uT12eAM11 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 06:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqmnhFeb 16 06:47
msbWow, the comcrap mail server and the whole comcrap website -- comcast.net is down!  But my service is still working.Feb 16 06:56
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msbhttp://www.telesurtv.net/english/telesuragenda/Venezuela-Coup-Thwarted-20150213-0007.htmlFeb 16 07:36
msbhttp://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.htmlFeb 16 07:36
msbhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/britain-and-canada-involved-in-foiled-us-venezuelan-coup-plot/5431523Feb 16 07:36
msbhttp://venezuelanalysis.com/news/11208Feb 16 07:36
msbThe US tried to "regime-change" Venezuela a few days ago!Feb 16 07:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Prediction: 2020 the year of (PC-)BSD on theFeb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines                 desktop http://t.co/slAkoIDxxZFeb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn46Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Leftovers http://t.co/kA2X0tbCQcFeb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn47Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ApKz9s4IG5 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn48Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially ReleasedFeb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines                 with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot TourFeb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/E24s8zomzV (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn4aFeb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC eventFeb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wZqWOEr9uy (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn4bFeb 16 08:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux DistributionFeb 16 08:09
TweetTuxMachines                 with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot TourFeb 16 08:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Ruk9jv0xby (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 08:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn4dFeb 16 08:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATEFeb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Edition - Screenshot TourFeb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2YbC9IKzf0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn7wFeb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     CuBox-i review – an elegant mini PC which runsFeb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Android, Linux and OpenELECFeb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/M6CgpuCEAMFeb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.androidauthority.com)Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn7xFeb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     What Every Company Can Learn From XiaomiFeb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/r9FpZWBMI1Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.computerworlduk.com)Feb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn7zFeb 16 08:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.7.0 Prepares for Qt 5.5Feb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4NTB7kLaar (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8cFeb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially ReleasedFeb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines                 with KDE Plasma 5.2 - Screenshot TourFeb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/HlJPQqLQjH (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8dFeb 16 08:28
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Netrunner 15 “Prometheus” Officially Released with KDE Plasma...'Feb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC eventFeb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rvCFNg2p4p (www.gsmarena.com)Feb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8iFeb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux KDE Is an Arch Linux DistributionFeb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines                 with a Nice KDE Setup - Screenshot TourFeb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6pC8Uu7NeG (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8jFeb 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines@Geekkritik      RT @tuxmachines: Meizu teases #ubuntuphoneFeb 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines                 ahead of MWC event http://t.co/aKf1G69vd5Feb 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gsmarena.com)Feb 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqn8uFeb 16 08:30
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Meizu teases Ubuntu phone ahead of MWC event...'Feb 16 08:30
schestowitzWhen "Cyber Security" means cracking networks of "enemy" nations and "Consumer Protection" means data #surveillance http://www.utahpeoplespost.com/2015/02/white-house-summit-on-cyber-security-and-consumer-protection/Feb 16 08:37
cubexyzok, giving kwort a tryFeb 16 09:17
cubexyzfull report laterFeb 16 09:18
cubexyzthere's actually something rather like Unix v7 in the Linux worldFeb 16 09:23
cubexyzttylinuxFeb 16 09:23
cubexyzhttp://ttylinux.net/dloadPC-i686.htmlFeb 16 09:24
cubexyzI'm hoping to find something minimal but still with XFeb 16 09:26
cubexyz+Feb 16 09:28
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schestowitzg2`: j0Feb 16 13:27
g2`Hello.Feb 16 13:27
g2`Yes?Feb 16 13:27
schestowitzsorry, wrong keystrokes :-)Feb 16 13:31
schestowitzmeant to respond to MinceRFeb 16 13:31
MinceRj0Feb 16 13:32
schestowitz[21:40] <MinceR> it certainly made a difference for the artistFeb 16 13:33
schestowitzIndeedFeb 16 13:33
schestowitzBut that's taking the statement a bit out of contextFeb 16 13:33
MinceR:>Feb 16 13:34
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g2`I joined here based on because "social" was in the topicFeb 16 13:40
XRevan86g2`: hmm?Feb 16 13:41
schestowitzGNU Social?Feb 16 13:41
g2`i joined here after /alis social topic searchFeb 16 13:41
schestowitzChannel #boycottnovell-social is social tooFeb 16 13:41
XRevan86schestowitz: You're still not in GNU social, right? :)Feb 16 13:42
schestowitzI think it was suggested by balzac around 2009 after Fedora had made such a channelFeb 16 13:42
schestowitzXRevan86: well, I used to use identica, whose successor is SocialFeb 16 13:42
schestowitzStatusNetFeb 16 13:42
XRevan86schestowitz: This is past, I'm interested in present :).Feb 16 13:42
schestowitzrunning what was identi.ca at the timeFeb 16 13:42
schestowitzI am no longer active in identi.ca Feb 16 13:43
schestowitzI moved to DiasporaFeb 16 13:43
XRevan86identi.ca is an instance of pump.ioFeb 16 13:43
XRevan86nowFeb 16 13:43
schestowitzafter three people had invited meFeb 16 13:43
schestowitzpump.io does not interest me much (too basic) and Evan didn't give me my data from StatusNet, so I can't migrate to SocialFeb 16 13:44
XRevan86schestowitz: I did tell you that importing data is not implemented anyway.Feb 16 13:44
schestowitzEven if export was possible, that's somethingFeb 16 13:44
schestowitzI can put online, and self-host, what I postedFeb 16 13:45
schestowitzAs I did with Digg when it went KaputFeb 16 13:45
schestowitzand with twitter before it dies, which it will one dayFeb 16 13:45
schestowitzhttp://schestowitz.com/tweetsFeb 16 13:45
XRevan86schestowitz: You can use twitter bridge, by the way.Feb 16 13:46
XRevan86Anyway, today's identi.ca is not StatusNet and so is not it's dataFeb 16 13:46
g2`I'm not that familiar with the boycott novell situation..Feb 16 13:46
XRevan86schestowitz: You actually could export data from identi.ca but only before it migrated to pump.ioFeb 16 13:47
XRevan86StatusNet and GNU social support exporting.Feb 16 13:47
XRevan86schestowitz: And I don't think Evan stores data from back then.Feb 16 13:48
XRevan86http://skilledtests.com/wiki/Statusnet_problems#data_portabilityFeb 16 13:49
XRevan86schestowitz: Does Diaspora* support Atom/RSS?Feb 16 13:49
XRevan86schestowitz: There are ways of automatic fetching of Atom streams in GNU social.Feb 16 13:50
XRevan86https://loadaverage.org/lor this account works in that wayFeb 16 13:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Linux Introduces Its First MATEFeb 16 13:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Edition - Screenshot TourFeb 16 13:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/KtlUs5Wj5s (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3fFeb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zawlGfEAfP (www.phoronix.com)Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3gFeb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.0 Lollipop Is More Stable Than iOS 8:Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Report http://t.co/71Vewb0jTpFeb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3mFeb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Malta to start government software repositoryFeb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Is6iQWXbcg (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3nFeb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/DmvlOtMepe (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 13:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqp3pFeb 16 13:58
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*TweetTuxMachines @greenlionnet favourited 'The Community Really Wants To See Linux 4.0...'Feb 16 14:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Removing Systemd from Debian (and still runningFeb 16 14:32
TweetTuxMachines                 a desktop) http://t.co/veUTXN3tpQ (lkcl.net)Feb 16 14:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpacFeb 16 14:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/67UJ5JgTYDFeb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpavFeb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Android 5.0 Lollipop has a tiny slight edgeFeb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines                 when it comes to stability"Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/k9VmH7EZDl (www.techtimes.com)Feb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpaxFeb 16 14:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast andFeb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 User-Friendly Arch Linux DistroFeb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Z0VfdD0i8B (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpb0Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Galicia publishes CeMIT classroom managementFeb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 system http://t.co/u1wxMsgbd0Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpb3Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities CorrectedFeb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 in All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IAs95NXvG0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpb4Feb 16 14:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; ButFeb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/E8osEWsSGU (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpblFeb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Removing Systemd from Debian (and still runningFeb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines                 a desktop) http://t.co/oxPxRJVsQnFeb 16 14:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpbmFeb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LG's new Android Wear smartwatch, the WatchFeb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Urbane, has an all-metal bodyFeb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/sFljz39f3w (www.gizmag.com)Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpbnFeb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xposed Framework For Android Lollipop NowFeb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Available: What You Need To KnowFeb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5JL99N0DrV (www.techtimes.com)Feb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpboFeb 16 14:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 4.4 KitKat Update Now Available forFeb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Xolo Q1200 http://t.co/jTGaT7UVbQFeb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (gadgets.ndtv.com)Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpdzFeb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lenovo A6000, A5000, P70, S90 and Others to GetFeb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Android 5.0 Lollipop Update SoonFeb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GOimx8zt6W (www.ibtimes.co.in)Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpe0Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu for Phones a realityFeb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BQukn70R5G (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 14:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpe1Feb 16 14:49
MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/piYLcaF.jpgFeb 16 14:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best new icon packs for Android (February 2015)Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 #2 http://t.co/w9I3QXiDOe (www.phonearena.com)Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 "customization is one of the main sellingFeb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 points"Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpfsFeb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cut the Rope Is the First Major Game Ported forFeb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Phones http://t.co/6hTMsPyDIdFeb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpfuFeb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines@brolettolinux   RT @tuxmachines: Removing Systemd from DebianFeb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (and still running a desktop)Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/NOWU8Q3q79 (lkcl.net)Feb 16 15:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpfwFeb 16 15:00
msbComcast is censoring e-mails!  Any e-mail from Comcast containing this URL is never sent.  http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Almost-All-Opposition-Leaders-Knew-About-Venezuelan-Coup-Plot-20150215-0006.htmlFeb 16 15:04
msbschestowitz: no bot?Feb 16 15:04
cubexyzdo you get my emails?Feb 16 15:05
msbWhen did you send one?Feb 16 15:05
cubexyzjust nowFeb 16 15:06
cubexyzjust curious if stuff from my mail server gets throughFeb 16 15:06
cubexyzI see your emails thoughFeb 16 15:07
msbI got it.Feb 16 15:08
cubexyzI got your telesurtv.net messageFeb 16 15:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arnold's T-800 Terminator Runs Linux KernelFeb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 4.1, We're All Doomed http://t.co/O6kmn2QmtGFeb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/9RiocPoBooFeb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxveda.com)Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqphyFeb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OSFeb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Devs Say People Should PayFeb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LuzRsexXTe (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 nothing forbids it.Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqphzFeb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Legends Of Eisenwald, A Medieval RPG & StrategyFeb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Game Is Coming To Linux https://t.co/jBXhLzaPdWFeb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 16 15:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpi0Feb 16 15:11
msbcubexyz: yes.  I found which url was censored, and tinyurled it.  Then it went thru.Feb 16 15:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the FedoraFeb 16 15:15
TweetTuxMachines                 family http://t.co/2h5mvIyVoh (www.scrye.com)Feb 16 15:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpiuFeb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Their official site notes that Linux will be aFeb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 platform, and their publisher is theFeb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux-friendly Devolver Digi...Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bo3cYSIIU9 (joindiaspora.com)Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpiwFeb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/mnO14Wru26Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpizFeb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linus Torvalds: I don’t care if TerminatorFeb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 robots run on Linux http://t.co/F7hYruRgy2Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpj1Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Online Community Goes Nuts After elementary OSFeb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Devs Say People Should PayFeb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kfhGEf5TPH (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpj2Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux KDE 7.0 Officially Released, NotFeb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Yet Ready for 64-bit - VideoFeb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VMMXlf9xAe (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 15:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpj3Feb 16 15:16
MinceRsomebody forgot the name "Cyberdyne Systems"Feb 16 15:19
msbAnybody here using Comcast?Feb 16 15:21
MinceRthankfully not meFeb 16 15:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rawhide: Beloved and vital member of the FedoraFeb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines                 family http://t.co/Jrm9xDCJEzFeb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpkwFeb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OSFeb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines                 with the Latest NVIDIA DriversFeb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kn9s1syrKB (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpkxFeb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; ButFeb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)Feb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpkyFeb 16 15:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Multiple PostgreSQL Vulnerabilities CorrectedFeb 16 15:42
TweetTuxMachines                 in All Supported Ubuntu OSesFeb 16 15:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AQMgS0bUg6 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpokFeb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     #BridgeLinux #Xfce 2015.02 Released, a Fast andFeb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines                 User-Friendly Arch Linux DistroFeb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRb (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines                 #gnome too: http://t.co/1UoK8f6nRbFeb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpolFeb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Debian Project Reaches 83% Reproducible BuildsFeb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines                 for Source Packages http://t.co/IcXpRuey8WFeb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 16 15:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqpomFeb 16 15:43
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XRevan86http://habrahabr.ru/post/250707 about russian distrosFeb 16 15:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 16/2/2015: Netrunner 15, Bridge LinuxFeb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jss77NuQ1p (techrights.org)Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprfFeb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0.2 Is a Bleeding Edge Embedded OSFeb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 with the Latest NVIDIA DriversFeb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rIsy3vAxyi (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprgFeb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why I am a Member of the Open Source InitiativeFeb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QEYsBnBa4M (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprjFeb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/3pm3OTgWuh (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 15:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqprkFeb 16 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/c2wL9ooW3ZFeb 16 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/znwJAeu5o8Feb 16 18:04
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cubexyzok, I can report good results for AntiX 13.2Feb 16 18:22
cubexyzdebian based OS, no systemdFeb 16 18:22
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*TweetTuxMachines @TheBlacksmithP followed @tuxmachinesFeb 16 19:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://t.co/k6x9R9Bdmg (www.datamation.com)Feb 16 19:56
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Login2truth/status/567491965370261504Feb 16 20:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     gnu linux and in malawi http://t.co/SBNqqxvFJFFeb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (lodahl.blogspot.co.uk)Feb 16 20:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source robot kit taps Raspberry Pi 2Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wk54PkyVyR (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 16 20:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Spelling in Malawi http://t.co/CAxixL4JJ7Feb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Dangers of Boutique Linux DistrosFeb 16 20:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kYESevnmSi (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 20:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/i9R9towuz7Feb 16 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 21:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Linux A Labour Of Love?Feb 16 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 21:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/JjfBm64QyZFeb 16 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 21:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     systemd 219 http://t.co/jw2CvLUnYIFeb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 21:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available forFeb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Download, Chromebook Image IncludedFeb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cN9BNdfWG3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 21:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on theFeb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Community, Says Linux FoundationFeb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Y8EY4JCZ5X (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 21:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqrkgFeb 16 21:52
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*TweetTuxMachines @devindthorpe favourited 'How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on...'Feb 16 22:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) releasedFeb 16 22:27
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TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TMV4OfxP57 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 16 22:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install InFeb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize TasksFeb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6skwD8GX4L (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsngFeb 17 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Task Coach 1.4.2 Released, Install In Ubuntu/Linux Mint To Organize Tasks | Tux MachinesFeb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Project Points to Danger of BoutiqueFeb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Distros http://t.co/3yL0S2S0HgFeb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsniFeb 17 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Project Points to Danger of Boutique Distros | Tux MachinesFeb 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With YouFeb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Wherever You Go http://t.co/iViCZlwU35Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsuqFeb 17 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever You Go | Tux MachinesFeb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because PrestoFeb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/5gOS8KgoldFeb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto Doesn't Work On Linux? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; ButFeb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/a66qGsD8hI (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 02:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqsusFeb 17 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 02:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Elementary OS: A good looking cheap AppleFeb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines                 lookalike http://t.co/uRl771b465Feb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtjkFeb 17 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike | Tux MachinesFeb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon http://t.co/QlisN61LVMFeb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 04:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtjmFeb 17 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon | Tux MachinesFeb 17 04:43
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros http://t.co/kYESevnmSi'Feb 17 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Dangers of Boutique Linux Distros | Tux MachinesFeb 17 04:43
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Is Linux A Labour Of Love? http://t.co/nqDbMgzwDe'Feb 17 05:20
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But...'Feb 17 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is Linux A Labour Of Love? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google's Android One debuts in PHL, pricedFeb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 below P5k http://t.co/TnHNBfAP9yFeb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtqlFeb 17 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced below P5k | Tux MachinesFeb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Where do we stand after 30 years after theFeb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 founding of the Free Software Foundation?Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zrQCDx7jDj (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtqmFeb 17 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Where do we stand after 30 years after the founding of the Free Software Foundation? | Tux MachinesFeb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones NowFeb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 Available on PCs http://t.co/jNatXbCa6yFeb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 05:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtqnFeb 17 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs | Tux MachinesFeb 17 05:20
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on...'Feb 17 05:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With YourFeb 17 05:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi https://t.co/QDu9nAYAduFeb 17 05:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.adafruit.com)Feb 17 05:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtrcFeb 17 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.adafruit.com | Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With Your Raspberry Pi #piday #raspberrypi @Raspberry_Pi « Adafruit Industries – Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers!Feb 17 05:23
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Radical Idea For More Linux Game PortsFeb 17 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BHjD18j97R (www.phoronix.com)Feb 17 05:26
TweetTuxMachines                 "Canonical and Red Hat finance the ports."Feb 17 05:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtryFeb 17 05:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | A Radical Idea For More Linux Game Ports - PhoronixFeb 17 05:26
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike...'Feb 17 05:26
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With...'Feb 17 05:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MakuluLinux 2.0 Cinnamon reviewedFeb 17 05:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lW0r2hqi5D (distrowatch.com)Feb 17 05:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqttgFeb 17 05:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Feb 17 05:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever...'Feb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines@miniputing      This is actually quite nice RT @tuxmachinesFeb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Build An Open Source FM Radio Station With YourFeb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Raspberry Pi https://t.co/wTkzVQoj40Feb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (blog.adafruit.com) …Feb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqtuyFeb 17 05:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Continues to Attack Software FreedomFeb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Through UEFI http://t.co/QuN3a6M5u4Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org) http://t.co/YU2RYG3ERdFeb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu04Feb 17 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel Continues to Attack Software Freedom Through UEFI | TechrightsFeb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Elementary OS: A good looking cheap AppleFeb 17 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UEFI - TechrightsFeb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines                 lookalike http://t.co/ZV1OFALUV7Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techzim.co.zw)Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu05Feb 17 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | Elementary OS: A good looking cheap Apple lookalike - TechzimFeb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Usability of GNOME http://t.co/SqEqer8MpYFeb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxjournal.com)Feb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu06Feb 17 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | The Usability of GNOME | Linux JournalFeb 17 06:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/gaPHO799G1Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu2kFeb 17 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid | Tux MachinesFeb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open sourceFeb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0w8PvpgIgS (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu2lFeb 17 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source | Tux MachinesFeb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let ItFeb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwgFeb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu2mFeb 17 06:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don’t Let It Kill Android Players Too | TechrightsFeb 17 06:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     systemd 219 http://t.co/WshyjU01xfFeb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (lists.freedesktop.org)Feb 17 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd 219Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu87Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     wayland 1.7.0 http://t.co/NvzSfc3AriFeb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (lists.freedesktop.org)Feb 17 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [ANNOUNCE] wayland 1.7.0Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu88Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Using OpenGL with GTK+ https://t.co/cXtSxEzylhFeb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.bassi.io)Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu89Feb 17 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bassi.io | halting problem : Using OpenGL with GTK+Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Linux A Labour Of Love?Feb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lVURJEaLfMFeb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.everydaylinuxuser.com)Feb 17 06:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Is Linux A Labour Of Love? « Everyday Linux UserFeb 17 06:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqu8aFeb 17 06:35
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Is Linux A Labour Of Love? http://t.co/lVURJEaLfM'Feb 17 06:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | The NSA hides surveillance software in hard drivesFeb 17 06:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux 4.0Feb 17 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PzPnGvfDEI (www.linuxplanet.com)Feb 17 07:02
TweetTuxMachines                 #linux #kernelFeb 17 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxplanet.com | Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux 4.0Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqugbFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because PrestoFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Doesn't Work On Linux? http://t.co/obsbOyB5FWFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.lifehacker.com.au)Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines                 microsoft silverlight still a cancer on the WebFeb 17 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifehacker.com.au | Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because Presto Doesn't Work On Linux? | Lifehacker AustraliaFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqugcFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Now Open Source Firmware Enters the EquationFeb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gm24wef8E5 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 07:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqugeFeb 17 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation | Tux MachinesFeb 17 07:03
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ask LH: Can I Get A Refund Because...'Feb 17 07:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available forFeb 17 07:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Download, Chromebook Image IncludedFeb 17 07:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/J5ylpU2bsf (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 17 07:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jquhfFeb 17 07:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Is Now Available for Download, Chromebook Image Included - SoftpediaFeb 17 07:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) released Feb 17 07:15
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aza0Qb03MM (frugalware.org)Feb 17 07:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jquj9Feb 17 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-frugalware.org | FrugalwareFeb 17 07:15
*TweetTuxMachines @whiletrueweb favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'Feb 17 07:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on theFeb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Community, Says Linux FoundationFeb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eStktbW0ty (thevarguy.com)Feb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqun5Feb 17 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | How to Hire Open Source Talent: Focus on the Community, Says Linux Foundation | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyFeb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With YouFeb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Wherever You Go  http://t.co/gieHeNKc14Feb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.makeuseof.com)Feb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqun6Feb 17 07:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever You GoFeb 17 07:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     DNF 0.6.4 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.5 ReleasedFeb 17 07:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oL9cSdw9Xh (dnf.baseurl.org)Feb 17 07:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqun7Feb 17 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnf.baseurl.org | DNF 0.6.4 and DNF-PLUGINS-CORE 0.1.5 Released | DNFFeb 17 07:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @devindthorpe followed @tuxmachinesFeb 17 07:37
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Keep A Portable Ubuntu Installation With You Wherever...'Feb 17 07:37
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Linux 3.20 Likely to be Renumbered as Linux...'Feb 17 07:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraphFeb 17 07:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cI7F0ZU4sy (www.phoronix.com)Feb 17 07:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqur3Feb 17 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | OpenMW Switching From Ogre3D To OpenSceneGraph - PhoronixFeb 17 07:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/sWzWyVJJWYFeb 17 07:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 07:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqussFeb 17 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVtFeb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqustFeb 17 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Resistance to successors of #!Feb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/p8Yxh6ddC4 (crunchbang.org)Feb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqusuFeb 17 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=419094#p419094 )Feb 17 07:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "It seems, that the passion of the community ofFeb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines                 #! was too overwhelming..."Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/BR6VuTJKYWFeb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk)Feb 17 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digitallofice.blogspot.co.uk | Digitallofice: #! is dead - Long live #!++Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv3nFeb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will ItFeb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Io9bKMw0a9 (www.idigitaltimes.com)Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines                 also see http://t.co/q8fp11QjUFFeb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (androidheadlines.com)Feb 17 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.idigitaltimes.com | First Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will It Challenge iOS-Android Dominance?Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv3oFeb 17 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-androidheadlines.com | Ubuntu-Powered Meizu Handset Will Be Unveiled At MWC, Company's Official Teaser Confirms | Androidheadlines.comFeb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lw6PRkmLLd (www.linuxuser.co.uk)Feb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv3pFeb 17 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuser.co.uk | Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column | Linux User & Developer - the Linux and FOSS mag for a GNU generationFeb 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Screenshot Tour of  Bodhi Linux 3.0.0Feb 17 08:49
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kwnsNEGMoX (news.softpedia.com)Feb 17 08:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv44Feb 17 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Officially Released, Uses the Numix Icons - Screenshot Tour - SoftpediaFeb 17 08:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux GamesFeb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines                 For Dirt Cheap  https://t.co/Z5wUu4vHY9Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) http://t.co/yEUPCBTkaeFeb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamasutra.com)Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv46Feb 17 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Bundle Stars Trinity Bundle Has 10 Linux Games For Dirt Cheap | GamingOnLinuxFeb 17 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamasutra.com | Gamasutra - Press Releases - Steam games for Windows, Mac and Linux – just 25 cents each in the new Trinity Bundle!Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     17 years of defending open source: Join the OSIFeb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines                 today http://t.co/bayC7upQKyFeb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv48Feb 17 08:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 17 years of defending open source: Join the OSI today | Tux MachinesFeb 17 08:50
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for OpenFeb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Experts http://t.co/0WNuj0djaUFeb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv4pFeb 17 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts | Tux MachinesFeb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel columnFeb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/alRgoYZqjx (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv4qFeb 17 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel 3.19 development – the kernel column | Tux MachinesFeb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     2+ years with network management in KDEFeb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/Gm94nImZnT (grulja.wordpress.com)Feb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv4rFeb 17 08:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grulja.wordpress.com | 2+ years with network management in KDE | Jan GrulichFeb 17 08:52
TweetTuxMachines@rmsthebot       @tuxmachines You should say GNU/Linux orFeb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU+Linux.Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv6aFeb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Y6v9d7sU19 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv6bFeb 17 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Bridge Linux LXDE 2015.02 Screenshot Tour - SoftpediaFeb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance,Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 this time in the PhilippinesFeb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/q3laUGjTFK (www.phonearena.com)Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YqOkVDli8E (www.gmanetwork.com)Feb 17 09:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv6cFeb 17 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Android 5.1 Lollipop makes another appearance, this time in the PhilippinesFeb 17 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gmanetwork.com | Google's Android One debuts in PHL, priced below P5k | SciTech | GMA News OnlineFeb 17 09:00
*TweetTuxMachines @HandsOnGeek followed @tuxmachinesFeb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Where do we stand after 30 years after theFeb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines                 founding of the Free Software Foundation?Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CgpciLYsmz (opensource.com)Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv76Feb 17 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Interview with John Sullivan, Executive Director of Free Software Foundation | Opensource.comFeb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing,Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Debian Sid http://t.co/SoU4zCz9VyFeb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 17 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Clonezilla Live 2.3.2-22 Available for Testing, Based on Debian Sid - SoftpediaFeb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv77Feb 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones NowFeb 17 09:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Available on PCs http://t.co/YFkeMJ7ZsqFeb 17 09:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 17 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Unofficial Ubuntu Store for Phones Now Available on PCs - SoftpediaFeb 17 09:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv7xFeb 17 09:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open sourceFeb 17 09:07
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/7Lj3MmEOVP (joinup.ec.europa.eu)Feb 17 09:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqv7zFeb 17 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Rationalising ICT takes Portugal to open source | JoinupFeb 17 09:07
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation http://t.co/gm24wef8E5'Feb 17 09:14
*TweetTuxMachines @subutux favourited 'Ubuntu Phone BQ Aquaris Sold Out; But Will...'Feb 17 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation | Tux MachinesFeb 17 09:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for OpenFeb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Experts http://t.co/Smq6BljUrWFeb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (thevarguy.com)Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvhrFeb 17 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thevarguy.com | Red Hat Enhances Certification Program for Open Source Experts | Open Source Application Software Companies content from The VAR GuyFeb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don't Let ItFeb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Kill Android Players Too http://t.co/Ai7pCSVFwgFeb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    (techrights.org)Feb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvc7Feb 17 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Already Killed Nokia, Don’t Let It Kill Android Players Too | TechrightsFeb 17 09:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Leftovers http://t.co/bnPE3aNWb0Feb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvkoFeb 17 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Softpedia's Screenshot ToursFeb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Lay4m26NZj (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvkpFeb 17 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Softpedia's Screenshot Tours | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/MbaZpsljVtFeb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz    Feb 17 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 17 10:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqvk2Feb 17 10:01
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611035Feb 17 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The corporate media, using so-called 'experts', tries to dub #putin 'insane' while calling #assange and #snowden depressed while besiegedFeb 17 11:32
schestowitz"Because US politicians pushing for a nuclear war with Russia are a model of sanity."Feb 17 11:32
schestowitzThey are the "insane we like", or "our kind of insane"Feb 17 11:32
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XRevan86schestowitz: I was wrong apparently, there is a data import in GNU social.Feb 17 11:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth AFeb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Look https://t.co/rgMQU7oKMkFeb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 17 13:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqwymFeb 17 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Free Open World Game Destination Sol Is Worth A Look | GamingOnLinuxFeb 17 13:53
MinceRhttp://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/Feb 17 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/jqp6i ]Feb 17 13:56
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MinceRhttp://dilbert.com/strip/2015-02-17Feb 17 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dilbert.com | Elbonians Hacked Their Network - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2015-02-17 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsFeb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open-source software aims to change game forFeb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines                 smart facades http://t.co/rGxvrp9x5NFeb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqx5xFeb 17 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-source software aims to change game for smart facades | Tux MachinesFeb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/WawMIl4I6LFeb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqx60Feb 17 14:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 14:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 17/2/2015: SystemD 219, Frugalware 2.0Feb 17 14:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (Rigel) Released http://t.co/HzzV7k3SgkFeb 17 14:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 17 14:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqx61Feb 17 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 17/2/2015: SystemD 219, Frugalware 2.0 (Rigel) Released | TechrightsFeb 17 14:30
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Pj019nZPXRFeb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxnmFeb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/YaiEg3t5nTFeb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxnsFeb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/XBpVyriDpGFeb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxnvFeb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 PreviewsFeb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 TripleO http://t.co/y0yzy2snWVFeb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxnxFeb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews TripleO | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/8BxEhsKvgP (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxnzFeb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015 | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hcOeLZW7kx (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxo1Feb 17 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2 | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SUSE Unveils Open Source Enterprise StorageFeb 17 15:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Ceph http://t.co/anodaO8bIDFeb 17 15:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 15:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxo6Feb 17 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE Unveils Open Source Enterprise Storage Based on Ceph | Tux MachinesFeb 17 15:46
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Sosumiactually Putin has been dubbed an autistFeb 17 15:56
Sosumibut lolFeb 17 15:56
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/how-omnipotent-hackers-tied-to-the-nsa-hid-for-14-years-and-were-found-at-last/Feb 17 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | How “omnipotent” hackers tied to NSA hid for 14 years—and were found at last | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jqxqs ]Feb 17 15:56
Sosumihas anyone read itFeb 17 15:56
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Sosumiquite a sensational piece for an already known problemFeb 17 15:57
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cubexyzwell it livesFeb 17 15:59
cubexyzgot the ol' HP Laserjet 5N working againFeb 17 15:59
Sosumidefibrillated it? :)Feb 17 16:00
cubexyzhad to turn on the parallel port on one boxFeb 17 16:00
cubexyzcleaned it up, put in a refurbished toner cartridgeFeb 17 16:01
cubexyzit fits in well with all the other old computersFeb 17 16:02
Sosumi:)Feb 17 16:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open Source Enters The ClassroomFeb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/28DQOxDIt2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxwxFeb 17 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Enters The Classroom | Tux MachinesFeb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First fully sandboxed Linux desktop appFeb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oEF8IaEbT4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxx0Feb 17 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First fully sandboxed Linux desktop app | Tux MachinesFeb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP adds scale to open-source R in latest bigFeb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 data platform http://t.co/ZiyZwX8gjJFeb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqxx1Feb 17 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HP adds scale to open-source R in latest big data platform | Tux MachinesFeb 17 16:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds forFeb 17 16:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux http://t.co/kFDQCDIjesFeb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqy2jFeb 17 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 BringsFeb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines                 DirectX 9 Support Through MesaFeb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/c5BSxsP8Gc (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 16:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqy2kFeb 17 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa | Tux MachinesFeb 17 16:44
*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'HP adds scale to open-source R in latest...'Feb 17 17:12
schestowitzMinceR: https://twitter.com/TelegraphNews/status/567805786388242432Feb 17 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TelegraphNews: Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban http://t.co/LSttpXUoku http://t.co/AgKy6Z5teoFeb 17 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban - TelegraphFeb 17 17:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TelegraphNews: Vladimir Putin receives a warm welcome from Hungarian PM Viktor Orban http://t.co/LSttpXUoku http://t.co/AgKy6Z5teoFeb 17 17:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to theFeb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Philippines in April 2015Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/uuI8lfGGsE (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqygkFeb 17 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the Philippines in April 2015 | Tux MachinesFeb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.1 Lollipop Hitting Nexus Devices SoonFeb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Ahead of Motorola’s Smartphones!Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hsbSOAv9kt (masterherald.com)Feb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqyglFeb 17 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-masterherald.com | Android 5.1 Lollipop Hitting Nexus Devices Soon Ahead of Motorola’s Smartphones! | Master HeraldFeb 17 17:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hey, Samsung, LG And HTC—Shunning Android WearFeb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Is A Huge Mistake http://t.co/XY8dZENU0jFeb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (readwrite.com)Feb 17 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-readwrite.com | Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqyidFeb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The four best lock screens for your AndroidFeb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines                 phone  http://t.co/wWS4nUPqfwFeb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.greenbot.com)Feb 17 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.greenbot.com | The four best lock screens for your Android phone | GreenbotFeb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqyifFeb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Any app that works with Android Wear now worksFeb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines                 on your Pebble http://t.co/kUFpFD63TAFeb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.engadget.com)Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqyigFeb 17 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Any app that works with Android Wear now works on your PebbleFeb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/AAcuF67xen (www.zdnet.com)Feb 17 17:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqyihFeb 17 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-On with the Raspberry Pi 2 | ZDNetFeb 17 17:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015Feb 17 17:53
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7D7BS444nb (www.linux.com) "beenFeb 17 17:53
TweetTuxMachines                 using Linux as my only OS since 2005"Feb 17 17:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqykrFeb 17 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | The Top 11 Best Linux Distros for 2015 | Linux.comFeb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 PreviewsFeb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 TripleO  http://t.co/ZYkRGD1XKU (www.eweek.com)Feb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqyksFeb 17 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | Red Hat Enterprise Linux OpenStack 6 Previews TripleOFeb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Inspired by Linux, Pivotal to open-source bulkFeb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 of big data suite http://t.co/jj8GLfHasFFeb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Feb 17 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Inspired by Linux, Pivotal to open-source bulk of big data suite • The RegisterFeb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqykuFeb 17 17:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds forFeb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux http://t.co/EJG71ib5GYFeb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) alas, proprietaryFeb 17 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Vivaldi Web Browser Now Has 32-bit Builds for Linux - SoftpediaFeb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqymxFeb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First fully sandboxed Linux desktop appFeb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/1Rw5YWlmiL (blogs.gnome.org)Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqymyFeb 17 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2015/02/17/first-fully-sandboxed-linux-desktop-app/ )Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to theFeb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Philippines in April 2015Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CetLcfPA6V (www.tizenexperts.com)Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Android growing there tooFeb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Iot161U6bm (www.zdnet.com)Feb 17 18:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqymzFeb 17 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com | Samsung SUHD Tizen TVs coming to the Philippines in April 2015 - Tizen ExpertsFeb 17 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Google launches Android One in the Philippines | ZDNetFeb 17 18:02
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660Feb 17 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/Feb 17 19:11
schestowitz"#openhardware #FTW"Feb 17 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/jqw71 ]Feb 17 19:11
schestowitz"This is why the Librem laptop I thought was a huge deal, it's creating the first real demand (with $) for Intel to open up the firmware code of their latest chips. That's a huge deal, as open firmware-wise on laptops we're stuck in the freaking Core Duo days right now."Feb 17 19:11
schestowitzAnything with Intel in it is already freedom-hostile by design :-)Feb 17 19:12
cubexyzlibrem is too expensiveFeb 17 19:14
cubexyzbut maybe the price will go down over timeFeb 17 19:15
cubexyzLemote had a Chinese debian-based distro called RAYSFeb 17 19:20
cubexyzso Lemote should work with DebianFeb 17 19:20
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614884Feb 17 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We Need #Syriza in #Illinois http://www.thenation.com/article/198073/we-need-syriza-illinois "millionaire governor decrees austerity" #classwar #lootingFeb 17 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.thenation.com | We Need Syriza in Illinois | The Nation [ http://ur1.ca/jqz5d ]Feb 17 19:23
schestowitz"If austerity is so good then the US can have some."Feb 17 19:23
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5613031Feb 17 19:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Wars can be construed as "creating jobs". Think of all the stuff that needs to be rebuilt. The "job creator" myth exploits mass ignorance.Feb 17 19:23
schestowitz"That sounds great! Let's create jobs in the US, I have heard there is high unemployment there."Feb 17 19:23
MinceRno, they should work with a distro that caresFeb 17 19:25
MinceRdebian is not such a distroFeb 17 19:25
cubexyzthe corebot devs want intel to drop verified boot in future Feb 17 19:25
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cubexyzthere's a few distros which are based on debian wheezy that should be completely fineFeb 17 19:27
cubexyzwheezy supports amd64, armel, i386, ia64, mips, even s390 :)Feb 17 19:28
cubexyzand no systemdFeb 17 19:28
cubexyzat least antix doesn't use systemdFeb 17 19:29
MinceRgentoo still supports openrcFeb 17 19:30
MinceRslackware still doesn't use cancerdFeb 17 19:30
cubexyzindeed, one of the reasons I use vector linux, based on slackwareFeb 17 19:31
cubexyzI'm still not sure what the deal is with Debian to be honestFeb 17 19:32
MinceRthey jumped the sharkFeb 17 19:33
cubexyzit seems very unlikely the IBM folks would use systemdFeb 17 19:35
MinceRi'm not sure if there are any IBM folks aroundFeb 17 19:35
MinceRthey seem to have sold all the divisions that matterFeb 17 19:35
cubexyzwell, I only mention that because debian has an s390 versionFeb 17 19:35
MinceRthey still have Rational making and selling atrocious crapFeb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 BringsFeb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines                 DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rXgIxczoer (news.softpedia.com)Feb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqz84Feb 17 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | First Upgrade Pack for Manjaro 0.8.12 Brings DirectX 9 Support Through Mesa - SoftpediaFeb 17 19:35
MinceRand a few clueless suits cozying up with crAppleFeb 17 19:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/0cRfBfKwIFFeb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqz85Feb 17 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hostkey rotation, redux http://t.co/Gutdvi5eD7Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 17 19:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jqz86Feb 17 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hostkey rotation, redux | Tux MachinesFeb 17 19:36
cubexyzAntiX is based on wheezy, but it's sysvinitFeb 17 19:38
cubexyzso it seems that the default for wheezy is no systemdFeb 17 19:39
cubexyzJessie, the immediate successor to Wheezy, defaults to systemdFeb 17 19:40
cubexyzif you want the old sysvinit you can still have it, but it's not the defaultFeb 17 19:40
cubexyzyou might still have chunks of systemd in there thoughFeb 17 19:41
MinceRwheezy already has some systemd contamination in the form of libsystemd-daemon0 and libsystemd-login0Feb 17 19:42
MinceRbut at least doesn't force systemd as pid1Feb 17 19:42
cubexyzI think you can just: apt-get remove libsystemd-loginFeb 17 19:44
cubexyzI'll check on antix for libsystemdFeb 17 19:44
cubexyzI don't remember seeing it, but I'm not 100% sureFeb 17 19:44
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cubexyzyes, systemd is there but it's not being used by icewmFeb 17 19:57
cubexyzmore research is neededFeb 17 19:57
cubexyz"apt-get remove systemd"Feb 17 19:58
cubexyzok, trying that nowFeb 17 19:58
cubexyzsuccessFeb 17 20:05
cubexyzthere's still a few bits of libsystemd stuff in here, but systemd wasn't necessary for anything I was runningFeb 17 20:05
cubexyzone of the other window managers might need systemd for something, but not icewmFeb 17 20:07
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DaemonFCRyan FarmerFeb 17 20:46
DaemonFCJust now · Feb 17 20:46
DaemonFCBill Hicks on Dan Quayle (who has his "vice presidential museum" here in Huntington).Feb 17 20:46
DaemonFC"Little Quayle Boy...Little Damian. Is that guy Damian? Tell me those blank empty eyes aren't gonna glow red in the near future. 'Stop making jokes about meeeeee! (makes Satanic snorting/growling noise) I'll spell potato any fucking way I want! (snorting, growling) Rioters in LA - Let's nuke 'em! Bush was a pussy! (snorting, growling) He held me back!"Feb 17 20:46
DaemonFCLMAO! Still funny after all these years. Must be because of all the hero worship of the one-term do nothing knucklehead that still goes on in Huntington. What a fucking waste of a town. These people are scum. If you ask me, the worst thing about meth....is that it doesn't kill 'em fast enough. I'm serious.Feb 17 20:46
DaemonFCAnyone...who does that to themselves.... I don't think we lost anything. You know? "Duh! Let's smoke crystal meth! Let's fry our brain and die in six months because we live in a town that could easily be mistaken for one of Satan's anal warts! Woohoo!"Feb 17 20:48
MinceRgnFeb 17 21:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why should you consider using a Linux-basedFeb 17 21:20
TweetTuxMachines                 system for music making? http://t.co/WnedxbYMLJFeb 17 21:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.musicradar.com | Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? | Bitwig Studio | Tech News | MusicRadarFeb 17 21:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 17/2/2015:  TripleO, Pivotal Feb 17 21:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2pZIUruZKJ (techrights.org)Feb 17 21:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 17/2/2015: TripleO, Pivotal | TechrightsFeb 17 21:21
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615391Feb 18 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/why-should-you-consider-using-a-linux-based-system-for-music-making-616276/Feb 18 03:56
schestowitz"I LOVE LMMS."Feb 18 03:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why should you consider using a Linux-basedFeb 18 03:59
TweetTuxMachines                 system for music making? http://t.co/yIbtdqwe8EFeb 18 03:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 03:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr22lFeb 18 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why should you consider using a Linux-based system for music making? | Tux MachinesFeb 18 03:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On SteamFeb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/GvhzxZkoEb (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr25tFeb 18 04:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | 2D Adventure Game Shipwreck Now On Steam | GamingOnLinuxFeb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kodi 14.2 Beta 1 Finally Fixes the Scanning ofFeb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Newly Added Episodes and MoreFeb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7Uf3E6Yhj2 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr25uFeb 18 04:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kodi 14.2 Beta 1 Finally Fixes the Scanning of Newly Added Episodes and More - SoftpediaFeb 18 04:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenMorrowind Is an Ambitious Remake of TheFeb 18 04:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind for Linux Feb 18 04:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/d0F50fQzEc (news.softpedia.com)Feb 18 04:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | OpenMorrowind Is an Ambitious Remake of The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind for Linux - SoftpediaFeb 18 04:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How Pebble Became The Cheapest AndroidFeb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Smartwatch Around http://t.co/nokV3W1uMGFeb 18 04:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-readwrite.com | Feb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr2hqFeb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Best Android-Based Messaging Apps forFeb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Enterprises http://t.co/ns8KftLagpFeb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.junauza.com)Feb 18 04:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.junauza.com | Best Android-Based Messaging Apps for Enterprises | TechSourceFeb 18 04:46
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The KDE 5_15.02 increment contains the KDEFeb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Frameworks 5.7.0, Plasma 5.2.0 and ApplicationsFeb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines                 14.12.2." http://t.co/8j7dGkouhRFeb 18 04:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (alien.slackbook.org)Feb 18 04:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Alien Pastures » KDE 5_15.02 release for Slackware-currentFeb 18 04:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615018Feb 18 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Open Source Enters The Classroom http://talkincloud.com/cloud-computing/02172015/open-source-enters-classroom #education #freeswFeb 18 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> talkincloud.com | Open Source Enters The Classroom | Cloud Computing content from Talkin' Cloud [ http://ur1.ca/jr2l5 ]Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz"Feb 18 05:02
schestowitzThe author assumes the role of schooling is to prepare students to "enter the workforce" and that they "must ensure they teach students the skills that businesses want".Feb 18 05:02
schestowitzAs an IT teacher, I think that's total bullshit. I have refused to teach proprietary software in my classes since 2001. I don't see my school as a training center.Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz"Feb 18 05:02
schestowitzFor private businesses at taxpayers' expenseFeb 18 05:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5607175Feb 18 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #Systemd from #Debian (and still running a desktop) http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/Feb 18 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lkcl.net | Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz"Today I do not feel like warring about systemd. =)"Feb 18 05:02
schestowitz"So.... which one's better? Emacs or Vi?"Feb 18 05:02
schestowitznanoFeb 18 05:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5615220Feb 18 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #systemd https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.html "notice the "responses" from the systemd crowd" -iophkFeb 18 05:03
schestowitz"Challenging people's religion."Feb 18 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lists.debian.org | Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jr2le ]Feb 18 05:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611917Feb 18 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Retroactively shielding E-mail from #surveillance is not possible. The #uk has had (for many years) US bases that harvest, retain all mail.Feb 18 05:03
schestowitz"sure, you only eliminate your own access or delete your own copy."Feb 18 05:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611660Feb 18 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/equation-3598173/Feb 18 05:04
schestowitz";-) that's why they have got this special logo - to surround and thereby highlite the problem... :-/ "Feb 18 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.com [ http://ur1.ca/jqw71 ]Feb 18 05:04
schestowitzSmoking killsFeb 18 05:04
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5611853Feb 18 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Learning from #redhat (and Fedora) staff that Red hat pushes patches from #nsa directly into #linux using redhatcom addresses was shocking.Feb 18 05:04
schestowitz"Playing cover for NSA? That is shocking. Your contact should go to Wikileaks with the evidence. If true, it's a betrayal to the whole free software community."Feb 18 05:04
schestowitz"Feb 18 05:05
schestowitzI would venture a guess that in most of the world outside of the US, the NSA is seen as a completely out of control orwellian nightmare, but as I said, at least the code is open source, documented, versioned and can be traced back to original authors, meaning it's a single-opportunity game: you can try to break the rules, but if we catch you just once, either because of code review or because a customer noticed spyware-like behaviour Feb 18 05:05
schestowitzwhen policing his network traffic, you're out forever.Feb 18 05:05
schestowitzWe use AES, for example, under the same terms/circumstances.Feb 18 05:05
schestowitzThere are much more worrying things like special spyware electronics on hard drives, motherboards and CPUs that aren't as easy to detect or weed out, like UEFI etc.Feb 18 05:05
schestowitzChoose what you worry about carefully: there's a lot more to worry about that there is worry to go around. ;)Feb 18 05:05
schestowitz"Feb 18 05:05
schestowitzCritical flaws do get found, even in FOSS. We need to check where they come from and why.Feb 18 05:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: Nvidia's Android-powered Shield tabletFeb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines                 is actually great for gamingFeb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rRyUCG4Raa (www.networkworld.com)Feb 18 05:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Review: Nvidia's Android-powered Shield tablet is great for gamingFeb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KF5 Porting Progress https://t.co/BmdRKFXy73Feb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (kdepepo.wordpress.com)Feb 18 05:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kdepepo.wordpress.com | KF5 Porting Progress | Keeping Computing PersonalFeb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux 3.20 To Land VirtIO 1.0 ImplementationFeb 18 05:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ZnoMxThclD (www.phoronix.com)Feb 18 05:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Linux 3.20 To Land VirtIO 1.0 Implementation - PhoronixFeb 18 05:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Enea Linux and System Management on theFeb 18 05:15
TweetTuxMachines                 ARMv8-Based AMD Embedded R-Series Processor Feb 18 05:15
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1Zl7bq8XAg (www.businesswire.com)Feb 18 05:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | Enea Linux and System Management on the ARMv8-Based AMD Embedded R-Series Processor | Business WireFeb 18 05:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE –Feb 18 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 report http://t.co/azRXO0NsaMFeb 18 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theregister.co.uk)Feb 18 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linux kernel development has gone CORPORATE – report • The RegisterFeb 18 05:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GCompris Complex App Ported to Ubuntu forFeb 18 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Phones http://t.co/3NWfeolcFQFeb 18 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 18 05:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GCompris Complex App Ported to Ubuntu for Phones - SoftpediaFeb 18 05:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Humble Weekly Bundle: For Lovers Is a BizarreFeb 18 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Mix of Japanese Games and Real PillowcasesFeb 18 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0iennIEHei (news.softpedia.com)Feb 18 06:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Humble Weekly Bundle: For Lovers Is a Bizarre Mix of Japanese Games and Real Pillowcases - SoftpediaFeb 18 06:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest WaylandFeb 18 06:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Support http://t.co/6PN3eqUhJ3Feb 18 06:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest Wayland Support - PhoronixFeb 18 06:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20Feb 18 06:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel http://t.co/yqRFol5PSFFeb 18 06:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20 Kernel - PhoronixFeb 18 06:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Mark Shuttleworth clearly feels that whatFeb 18 06:43
TweetTuxMachines                 consumers and developers need, they will inFeb 18 06:43
TweetTuxMachines                 time learn to want." http://t.co/OCu0Ot4ySwFeb 18 06:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.techcentral.co.za)Feb 18 06:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techcentral.co.za | Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite? | TechCentralFeb 18 06:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu's foray into phones brings a freshFeb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines                 approach, but will consumers take to it?Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)Feb 18 06:44
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TweetTuxMachines                 approach, but will consumers take to it?Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/G3kaJFdLib (m.phys.org)Feb 18 06:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     NGINX: The secret heart of the modern webFeb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/THyZ0mpHrK (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 06:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NGINX: The secret heart of the modern web | Tux MachinesFeb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta VeryFeb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Soon http://t.co/mV5oqJqZGMFeb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 06:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very Soon | Tux MachinesFeb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME's Mutter Updated For Latest WaylandFeb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Support http://t.co/7N4A2tAFSsFeb 18 06:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New ARM Platform Support For The Linux 3.20Feb 18 06:44
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel http://t.co/DSZFktQArXFeb 18 06:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu phones: will consumers bite?Feb 18 06:45
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Sosumihttp://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s6_edge_tops_geekbench_results-news-11239.phpFeb 18 10:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gsmarena.com | Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge tops Geekbench results - GSMArena.com news [ http://ur1.ca/jr4dm ]Feb 18 10:01
Sosumithat new exymos powered S6 really promisesFeb 18 10:01
SosumiI just hope battery life is goodFeb 18 10:02
Sosumiand that samsung isn't cheating benchmarksFeb 18 10:02
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MinceRhttp://www.cracked.com/article_22028_3-realities-life-as-gamer-in-modern-dictatorship.htmlFeb 18 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cracked.com | 3 Shocking Things You Realize as a Gamer in a Dictatorship | Cracked.com [ http://ur1.ca/jr54d ]Feb 18 12:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributionsFeb 18 12:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TCNulVKWFp (www.oregonlive.com)Feb 18 12:56
TweetTuxMachines                 adding antifeatures not good. LOCs not a goodFeb 18 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oregonlive.com | Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions | OregonLive.comFeb 18 12:56
TweetTuxMachines                 yardstick.Feb 18 12:56
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614232Feb 18 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/17/cia-controlling-climate-geoengineering-climate-change #climate #warfareFeb 18 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com | The CIA asked me about controlling the climate – this is why we should worry | Alan Robock | Comment is free | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jr5j7 ]Feb 18 13:23
schestowitz"#WTF - The only thing I heard about this is NASA and Terraforming a planet."Feb 18 13:23
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/568114361983569921Feb 18 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Obvious *concept* & suspicion...but Case-in-Point, please.Feb 18 13:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta VeryFeb 18 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Soon http://t.co/wlMpiKuDqjFeb 18 13:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Gorgeous Ozon OS "Hydrogen" to Get a Beta Very Soon - SoftpediaFeb 18 13:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributionsFeb 18 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/h1tT8XnNOZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 13:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel now No. 1 sponsor of Linux contributions | Tux MachinesFeb 18 13:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     11 ways to get involved with Humanitarian FOSSFeb 18 13:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ZKF5DcdONL (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 13:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 11 ways to get involved with Humanitarian FOSS | Tux MachinesFeb 18 13:58
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568132157824212992  https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568146863171497984     https://twitter.com/PanoIgano/status/568147223625764864  Feb 18 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: 1st day at work fail RT @schestowitz: "Which moron wrote this brainless sh*t?" Martin Eller, Microsoft programmer about Bill Gates' own codeFeb 18 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz : )) I am sure he didn't! Otherwise I doubt he would have the guts to say so!Feb 18 15:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PanoIgano: @schestowitz Funny incident anyways & a reminder that is better to ask before criticizing... ; )Feb 18 15:39
cubexyzEller is an old old microsoftieFeb 18 15:52
cubexyza pity the way things went... Unix should have wonFeb 18 15:53
cubexyzit kind of did... but it kind of didn'tFeb 18 15:53
cubexyzAlexis de Tocqueville Institution, funded (of course) by MicrosoftFeb 18 15:59
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cubexyzbtw Eller did say that.. read "Barbarians Led by Bill Gates" written by Edstrom and Eller himselfFeb 18 16:12
cubexyzso technically we had an encumbered Western Electric License for Universities for Unix v5/v6 in 1975Feb 18 16:15
cubexyztwo 9 track 800 bpi magnetic tapes, containing the binary code of Unix, plus source code, user manual, programmer's manual, c reference manual, unix assembler reference manualFeb 18 16:16
cubexyzso you could look at the source, play around with it, write programs on a PDP-11Feb 18 16:17
cubexyzbut you technically could not share code with other peopleFeb 18 16:18
cubexyza giant missed opportunity... Unix is closed off for a number of years, Microsoft rises up and a dark ages of computing occurs, probably until 2002 or soFeb 18 16:19
cubexyzno gcc until 1987Feb 18 16:20
cubexyzand I definitely remember hearing about it back then, but it was mostly the closed source era back thenFeb 18 16:21
cubexyzso yeah, 25 year botch up in the operating system spaceFeb 18 16:22
cubexyzACK, the original compiler for Minix, also closed source at the timeFeb 18 16:24
cubexyzso yes, GNU gcc was a huge step forwardFeb 18 16:24
cubexyz386 chip was released in 1985, so we _could_ have had a FOSS operating system in the 80'sFeb 18 16:29
cubexyzbut what did we actually get? Xenix for $$$ and your c compiler probably cost at least $200Feb 18 16:31
cubexyzthat was in the late 80sFeb 18 16:31
cubexyzI suppose if you were rich you could have had Unix on a PDP-11/45 in the 1970s with all the source code for everythingFeb 18 16:32
cubexyzbut no community, not outside of Bell LabsFeb 18 16:32
schestowitzbarcelona football team is here on tuesday to play man city, so you might wanna watch it. I'll be flying to germany when the game kicks off.Feb 18 17:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5619788Feb 18 17:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: There is something #disturbing about #intel portraying itself as top FOSS player for merely giving self-serving patches to hardware-tied SW.Feb 18 17:06
schestowitz"Welcome to most contributions to the Linux kernel? That's par for the course."Feb 18 17:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015]Feb 18 17:20
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6EoBnPSI76 (www.linuxveda.com)Feb 18 17:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!Feb 18 17:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches PeopleFeb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/hPaYf6sXIYFeb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 17:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People Ubuntu Basics | Tux MachinesFeb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,Feb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/8I2GUhPbgJFeb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 17:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19, Starting 9 AM CET | Tux MachinesFeb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-drivingFeb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 car project http://t.co/yShLsFMV2ZFeb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 17:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving car project | Tux MachinesFeb 18 17:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Symple Introduces the $89 Planet FriendlyFeb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Linux Web WorkstationFeb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/iIv90tuQ3i (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 18:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation | Tux MachinesFeb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora Comes Bursting With ExtrasFeb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0UeFeni7yY (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 18:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Korora Comes Bursting With Extras | Tux MachinesFeb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle"Feb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 in its history." http://t.co/6bMwhUDLmFFeb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (arstechnica.com)Feb 18 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Linux has 2,000 new developers and gets 10,000 patches for each version | Ars TechnicaFeb 18 18:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0?Feb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CoLrEn6A6c (linuxgizmos.com) looksFeb 18 18:04
TweetTuxMachines                 likely at this stageFeb 18 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Is Linux heading toward the big 4.0? ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 18 18:04
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161604912746496  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568161869967568896   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568162070753099776   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163197301202945Feb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Killing in Washington State Offers ‘Ferguson’ Moment for Hispanics http://t.co/jB7ZIUc8dw highly disproportionate use of force by #policeFeb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York TimesFeb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Asymmetric warfare methods used by US military are now being pointed inwards, allowing #us #police to do more or less the same to USiansFeb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Finally, and most obviously, you have to start by building trust, which will necessarily require a transition" https://t.co/HA5ZKjVYc7Feb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/02/17/the-secret-squirrels-pitching-countering-violent-extremism/ )Feb 18 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is Microsoft now providing journalists handouts to spread the lie that Microsoft loves Linux, OSS, etc.? It smacks of that.Feb 18 18:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lightweight/status/568159923676127233  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568163670041223168  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568172713157783552   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568173213534068736  https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183180387323905Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: If any of this is true, it shows that the Microsoft we know and *don't* love hasn't changed its stripes. http://t.co/AgoS83PHh9Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Reportedly Uses Patent Blackmail Against Android to Force Samsung to Spread Microsoft Spyware (Incorporated Into Android) (Updated) | TechrightsFeb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #gigaom which was paid by #microsoft for secret ads continues to openwash the company. Om Malik, how much does #Nadella bribe you now?Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #ArchLinux Tutorial [updated Feb 2015] http://t.co/VTAPM7r2t1 very detailedFeb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com | How to install Arch Linux - easiest guide ever!Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #linux fosters cooperation between companies http://t.co/uO6eTcWLbO http://t.co/bUhAr10bgh http://t.co/GgvUop8qVpFeb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Linux Kernel Report: More Contributors Than Ever | Linux.comFeb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | ​Who's writing Linux today? Capitalists | ZDNetFeb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com | More than 80% of Linux kernel development is paid by companies! - Linux VedaFeb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Those in Power learned from experience that (bar framing) by attacking those who publish documents & obey law they just legitimise them moreFeb 18 18:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183713554669568   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568183976701140993   https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/568184152194981888Feb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics http://t.co/IBvnFXCSn9 #freesw #hpFeb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.informationweek.com | HP Goes Open Source For Haven Predictive Analytics - InformationWeekFeb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Linux recently saw "busiest development cycle" in its history." http://t.co/3sAFzLWSUs #kernel #linuxFeb 18 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Is #Linux heading toward the big 4.0? http://t.co/KdmSvPta3T looks likely at this stageFeb 18 18:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/568185111201492993Feb 18 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: @schestowitz @DefTechPat even worse, it sounds like they just don't care, if a hardcoded password saves them maintenance costs. 😣Feb 18 18:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19,Feb 18 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Starting 9 AM CET http://t.co/1rA3igF9lnFeb 18 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com) http://t.co/vSGZFVWsysFeb 18 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale on February 19, Starting 9 AM CET - SoftpediaFeb 18 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxg.net)Feb 18 18:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net | The Next BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Flash Sale Starts Tomorrow At 9 AM CET | LinuxG.netFeb 18 18:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches PeopleFeb 18 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Basics http://t.co/UnpMbJSvqsFeb 18 18:22
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 18 18:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | BQ’s New Ubuntu Phone Video Teaches People Ubuntu Basics - SoftpediaFeb 18 18:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as GoldFeb 18 18:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Member http://t.co/3Z7M3EnScuFeb 18 18:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxveda.com) Wall Street betting onFeb 18 18:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com | Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux VedaFeb 18 18:23
TweetTuxMachines                 linux as the futureFeb 18 18:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows upFeb 18 18:23
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Q6CJLVC8QY (www.zdnet.com)Feb 18 18:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Red Hat 64-bit ARM Linux grows up | ZDNetFeb 18 18:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-drivingFeb 18 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 car project http://t.co/5GfvJ7eSODFeb 18 18:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 18 18:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Sony taps Linux robot car tech for self-driving car project ·  LinuxGizmos.comFeb 18 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Korora Comes Bursting With ExtrasFeb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1TVJNtWYyP (www.linuxinsider.com)Feb 18 18:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Korora Comes Bursting With Extras | Reviews | LinuxInsiderFeb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Symple Introduces the $89 Planet FriendlyFeb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Ubuntu Linux Web WorkstationFeb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/sJf9BLbyUS (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 18:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Symple Introduces the $89 Planet Friendly Ubuntu Linux Web Workstation | Tux MachinesFeb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Should Linux distro developers expect to beFeb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines                 paid for their work? http://t.co/qzvYt5I2SgFeb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (jimlynch.com) what elementaryos does is fine,Feb 18 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jimlynch.com | Should Linux distro developers expect to be paid for their work? | Jim LynchFeb 18 18:31
TweetTuxMachines                 working was poorFeb 18 18:31
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msbcubexyz: I remember a lot of C code being broadcast on Usenet, I think in the 1980s, and archived on Simtel20 at White Sands AFB (I think).Feb 18 19:00
msbcubexyz: It was for Unix.Feb 18 19:00
cubexyzyes simtel20 which originally ran on TOPS-20, but now defunctFeb 18 19:08
cubexyzit's on http://archive.orgFeb 18 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free Books, Movies, Music & Wayback MachineFeb 18 19:09
cubexyzbut archive.org is down at the momentFeb 18 19:09
cubexyzlots of unix v5 era code was lostFeb 18 19:17
cubexyzI've tried to find some for the last 4 yearsFeb 18 19:17
msbI think this open-source code was developed and used by Unix users in universities -- an early Unix community.Feb 18 19:18
cubexyzthere's some usenix tapesFeb 18 19:19
msbcubexyz: Isn't there an alternate archive.org in South America somewhere?Feb 18 19:20
cubexyzmsb, you have a URL for that?Feb 18 19:22
msbcubexyz: I'm looking for one.Feb 18 19:22
msbThe wiki article on archive.org says it has a backup in Bibliotheca Alexandrina in Egypt.  Maybe that's it.Feb 18 19:24
msbarchive.bibalex.orgFeb 18 19:25
cubexyzok, archive.org is back now :)Feb 18 19:28
msbthis is the ancient one -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria  -- destroyed at various times by Romans and Christians.Feb 18 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jr7u2 ]Feb 18 19:31
msbMentioned in _Cosmos_ by Carl Sagan.Feb 18 19:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is BetterFeb 18 19:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dTFeOH2JJc (www.gottabemobile.com)Feb 18 19:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com | Android vs iPhone: 15 Reasons Android is BetterFeb 18 19:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to DateFeb 18 19:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pBpDp9U8q7 (www.maximumpc.com)Feb 18 19:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maximumpc.com | Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date | Maximum PCFeb 18 19:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to theFeb 18 19:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Skies  http://t.co/WyFbLWkSK8 (www.linux.com)Feb 18 19:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies | Linux.comFeb 18 19:33
cubexyzdestroyed at various times? Destroyed more than once? Feb 18 19:33
msbcubexyz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria#DestructionFeb 18 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Library of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/g49b6 ]Feb 18 19:34
msbvarious parts and sets of books.Feb 18 19:34
msbMoslems finished the job in 642, because the remaining books weren't the Koran.Feb 18 19:35
msbJCI religion is the scourge of mankind.Feb 18 19:36
MinceR> religion is the scourge of mankind.Feb 18 19:36
MinceRFTFYFeb 18 19:36
cubexyzI'll settle for some Unix v5 source codeFeb 18 19:36
msbNo -- Wicca is beneficial.Feb 18 19:36
cubexyzUnix version 1 was almost lost, part of it wasFeb 18 19:37
cubexyzthe only reason why we have part of it is that there was a book that had the source code listingsFeb 18 19:38
cubexyzmagtape isn't too great for long-term storageFeb 18 19:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to DateFeb 18 19:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gpPoAimhph (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 19:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Sells Over 5 Million Units to Date | Tux MachinesFeb 18 19:42
msbPoettering: "Just the other day, some idiot posted a "song" on youtube, a creepy work, filled with expletives about me and suggestions of violence."Feb 18 19:58
msbI can't find it.  Anybody have it?Feb 18 19:59
MinceRnever heard of itFeb 18 19:59
msbhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0aTqsl-vfUFeb 18 20:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Systemd Blues: Took our thing (Wooo) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jr83c ]Feb 18 20:12
msb"You took our thing and now we ain't got it no more"Feb 18 20:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Systemd Gets An Fsck Daemon/ServiceFeb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/n8NFPxFYvr (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 20:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd Gets An Fsck Daemon/Service | Tux MachinesFeb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to theFeb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Skies http://t.co/2SI1cUhEF5Feb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 20:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies | Tux MachinesFeb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That RespectsFeb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Google's Material Design http://t.co/Z12CqR8vLeFeb 18 20:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 18 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects Google's Material Design - SoftpediaFeb 18 20:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 18/2/2015: Linux Report, FlightGear 3.4Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7depUCZN4J (techrights.org)Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8dxFeb 18 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 18/2/2015: Linux Report, FlightGear 3.4 | TechrightsFeb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That RespectsFeb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Google's Material Design http://t.co/VLdtbhhwjmFeb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8dyFeb 18 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Azure Gtk Is a New Linux Theme That Respects Google's Material Design | Tux MachinesFeb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/vp2QXHfsA6Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8dzFeb 18 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/hMJz5f5AIrFeb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8e0Feb 18 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/hxwRwJGRRNFeb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 20:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr8e1Feb 18 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 18 20:57
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DaemonFChttp://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx2CJT4UEKKJRKFeb 18 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The State of Wisconsin had its budget trashed by Governor Scott Walker to the point that it will have to default now. [ http://ur1.ca/jr94j ]Feb 18 22:57
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msbIt's just a simple business deal.  Rich people give the politicians money, and the pols lower their taxes.  Nobody else matters.Feb 18 23:10
msbBut it's important to remember that Democrat politicians often do similar things to serve the rich, e.g., attacking Palestine, Serbia, Libya, Ukraine, Venezuela.Feb 18 23:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/My9JY4FG68Feb 18 23:16
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 18 23:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jr998Feb 18 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 18 23:16
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621836Feb 19 03:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Over time fewer people grasp that Russia lost around x20 more than US in WW2 (people), US came very late to claim landslide victoryFeb 19 03:15
schestowitz__"After having spent considerable time playing both sides of the fence until it was no longer fashionable, and then "winning" by being the only "peaceful" nation to use nuclear weapons."Feb 19 03:15
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621898Feb 19 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: To portray #intel as company that deserves credit for #linux rise is misleading. Linux was rising, Intel co-opts it. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IntelFeb 19 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Intel - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/jraln ]Feb 19 03:16
schestowitz__"Well at least they are participating!"Feb 19 03:16
schestowitz__"Microsoft participates too! :)'Feb 19 03:16
schestowitz__The "new Microsoft"Feb 19 03:16
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621993Feb 19 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/200-libby-clark/810883-dronecode-taking-the-internet-to-the-skies/ #dronecode #linux #freeswFeb 19 03:17
schestowitz__"    "What we essentially did was weaponize Lego with my children around the dining room table," Anderson said."Feb 19 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Dronecode: Taking the Internet of Things to the Skies | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/jralx ]Feb 19 03:17
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622092Feb 19 03:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nike is now patenting software http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/fashion/nike-patents-augmented-reality-shoe-design-system-article-1.2118548 #swpats from an evil company (lots of abuses)Feb 19 03:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nydailynews.com | Nike patents augmented reality shoe design software - NY Daily News [ http://ur1.ca/jram5 ]Feb 19 03:18
schestowitz__"I wonder how this will affect what is happening in the world of Doc M's"Feb 19 03:18
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux KernelFeb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Report http://t.co/DJfY77ndNS (www.linux.com)Feb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrb5kFeb 19 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | 10 Highlights of Jon Corbet's Linux Kernel Report | Linux.comFeb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The 8 best desktop environments for LinuxFeb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/R7bmoBNsLM (www.itworld.com)Feb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrb5lFeb 19 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | The 8 best desktop environments for Linux | ITworldFeb 19 05:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu EditionFeb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Phone Starts in Less than an HourFeb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7OHcrbAARm (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrb94Feb 19 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Phone Starts in Less than an Hour - Update - SoftpediaFeb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release AddsFeb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy FixesFeb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/93TvEbga5n (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrb95Feb 19 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Control Center 3.16 Beta Release Adds Keyboard, Bluetooth, Privacy Fixes - SoftpediaFeb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default DocumentFeb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Viewer App, Released http://t.co/kN49e0kqK6Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrb96Feb 19 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Evince 3.16 Beta 1, GNOME’s Default Document Viewer App, Released - SoftpediaFeb 19 05:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appearsFeb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 – but we have no idea what’s in storeFeb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/Z0547Imsoa (bgr.com)Feb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrba3Feb 19 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com | Mysterious Android 5.2 Lollipop update appears – but we have no idea what’s in store | BGRFeb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Decrypt Android Wear with these 16 essentialFeb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 tips and tricks  http://t.co/z65UPQUmDLFeb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.digitaltrends.com)Feb 19 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | 16 Essential Android Wear Tips and Tricks | Digital TrendsFeb 19 05:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrba4Feb 19 05:20
*TweetTuxMachines @Geekkritik retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Flash Sale for BQ's Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition...'Feb 19 05:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kernel build times for automated buildersFeb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Dp1z1KFsfT (www.sirena.org.uk) anFeb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines                 interesting comparison for linuxFeb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrbdfFeb 19 05:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sirena.org.uk | Kernel build times for automated builders < TechnicalitiesFeb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First PersonFeb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Horror Will Support LinuxFeb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/peUmqHgQOR (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrbdgFeb 19 05:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Solo: Gaze Into Madness, A New First Person Horror Will Support Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 19 05:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements forFeb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Windows Management and MoreFeb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/E2mSk5oVLE (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrbdhFeb 19 05:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Unity 8 and Mir See Nice Improvements for Windows Management and More - SoftpediaFeb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance andFeb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Battery LifeFeb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/zJJd6Gl2Hk (www.techspot.com)Feb 19 05:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrbdiFeb 19 05:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techspot.com | Android 5.0 Lollipop Tested: Performance and Battery Life - TechSpotFeb 19 05:34
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621937Feb 19 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It would be infeasible for the #cia to drive around sceptical nations with cameras, photographing everything and harvesting MAC addresses.Feb 19 05:54
schestowitz"Google cars were fined in France for sniffing WiFi years ago"Feb 19 05:54
schestowitzmaybe after the data collected had been copied via PRISM to entities that cannot be fined or have their data erasedFeb 19 05:55
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622064Feb 19 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "You can see propaganda being manufactured before your eyes" http://fair.org/blog/2015/02/18/most-americans-agree-that-netanyahu-the-only-one-who-can-save-the-puppy-should-save-the-puppy/ #zionism in #bloombergFeb 19 06:06
schestowitz"Feb 19 06:06
schestowitzA CNN/ORC poll suggests that a large majority opposes the invitation. Further, according to the poll, support for Israel is dwindling.Feb 19 06:06
schestowitzhttp://www.cnn.com/2015/02/17/politics/poll-netanyahu-speech-opposition/Feb 19 06:06
schestowitz"Feb 19 06:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621007Feb 19 06:07
schestowitz"Fake fight, fake narrative, to roll-out (announce) 1984. I need Google (what a fun name; maybe they should spell it with goofy fonts and lots of colors...)... I need Google to look after my privacy, and other rights, like a ho needs a pimp's protection and bookkeeping services."Feb 19 06:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621071Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fair.org | Most Americans Agree That Netanyahu, the Only One Who Can Save the Puppy, Should Save the Puppy [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjx ]Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnn.com | CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjy ]Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/google-calls-fbi-s-plan-to-expand-hacking-power-a-monumental-constitutional-threat-20150218 painting self as "resistor"Feb 19 06:07
schestowitz"Holder is a pig."Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nationaljournal.com | Google Calls FBI's Plan to Expand Hacking Power a 'Monumental' Constitutional Threat - NationalJournal.com [ http://ur1.ca/jrbjz ]Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ericholder a hypocrite that carries water for Power http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/17/eric-holder-death-penalty_n_6701062.html he doesn't really care about innocents. #drones #risenFeb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.huffingtonpost.com | Eric Holder: Moratorium On Death Penalty 'Would Be Appropriate' Pending Supreme Court Decision [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk0 ]Feb 19 06:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621753Feb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/02/18/bloomberg-joins-linux-foundation-as-gold-member/ Wall Street betting on #linux as the futureFeb 19 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxveda.com | Bloomberg Joins the Linux Foundation as Gold Member - Linux Veda [ http://ur1.ca/jrbk3 ]Feb 19 06:08
schestowitz"Barf"Feb 19 06:08
schestowitzIndeed,  but at least it helps LinuxFeb 19 06:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5614505Feb 19 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 3 white people planning mass murder in a mall and then shooting themselves not much different from suicide bombing. Canada says not terror.Feb 19 06:08
schestowitz"The media assumes gamers are misogynist terrorists, so I'm not surprised at that. Still doesn't mean we should extend the definition just so that anyone also could be "legitimately" be called terrorists."Feb 19 06:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Beam's Android-powered projector fits in yourFeb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 light sockets http://t.co/iFmxYfzaHDFeb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.engadget.com)Feb 19 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com | Beam's Android-powered projector fits in your light socketsFeb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrbloFeb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen SystemsFeb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 Might Get a Linux VersionFeb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/rExpoDNUOy (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 nice graphics.Feb 19 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | New Act of Aggression RTS from Eugen Systems Might Get a Linux Version - SoftpediaFeb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrblpFeb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Linux kernel is the biggest collaborativeFeb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 software project on the planet" Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aSFAlYmvZS (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 06:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrblqFeb 19 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | The Linux Foundation Shows Us Just How Massive the Kernel Development Really Is - SoftpediaFeb 19 06:17
msbNetanyahu speech: "it's not hard to get many people to respond the way you want to a loaded question" especially when they've been flooded with 60+ years of lying Zionist propaganda in all their newspapers and broadcast media.Feb 19 07:10
schestowitz"Feb 19 07:21
schestowitzOur first case deals with Mr. Rikard Frgacic.Feb 19 07:21
schestowitzWe sent you some background stuff about this previously but here's a short recap.Feb 19 07:21
schestowitz"Feb 19 07:21
MinceRgeekingsFeb 19 07:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese NewFeb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Year http://t.co/D39b1hCbtW (techrights.org)Feb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc3cFeb 19 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 19/2/2015: 64-bit ARM Linux, Chinese New Year | TechrightsFeb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Demand for Linux devs shows seven per centFeb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines                 increase http://t.co/6nVelQaIzoFeb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc3eFeb 19 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent increase | Tux MachinesFeb 19 07:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/mKmM4yD0y2Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc5dFeb 19 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/eamP4UbThAFeb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc5eFeb 19 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/cXiLWGnfGaFeb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc5fFeb 19 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesFeb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Very Soon http://t.co/VaYzfl4Fz8Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 08:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrc5gFeb 19 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19 Very Soon | Tux MachinesFeb 19 08:04
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schestowitz"We hope that the above comments will be of some assistance to you in evaluating any material that you get about these cases."Feb 19 08:17
schestowitzheh. I got a great article coming...Feb 19 08:17
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schestowitz"What can you tell the waiting public about the Microsoft associates on the board of the Linux Foundation"Feb 19 10:25
schestowitz"Are they on the Board?"Feb 19 10:25
schestowitz"I got this from Tech Rights which was a little unclear on the subject"Feb 19 10:25
schestowitzThey are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worseFeb 19 10:26
schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/can-suepo-sue-epo-it-now-seems-so.htmlFeb 19 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.co.uk | The IPKat: Can SUEPO sue EPO? It now seems so ... [ http://ur1.ca/jrcym ]Feb 19 10:26
schestowitz"    A translation of the decision will make very interesting reading, sending EPAs scurrying to read those parts of the Convention which they have in the past ignored. Does the Protocol Article 3(4) restrict the immunity only to those activities of the EPO "strictly necessary for its administrative and technical operation"? We shall see. Interesting reference to the Srebrenica decision as well."Feb 19 10:26
schestowitz" Yes,Merpel, your understanding of the document is correct. An appeal against this decision (to be lodged with the Hoge Raad) cannot result in the overturning of the finding of the Gerechtshof, unless a procedural violation has been committed by the latter. The Hoge Raad can only cassate a decision (beslissing) if the second instance did not apply the law correctly."Feb 19 10:26
schestowitz"This is a great day. "Feb 19 10:26
schestowitz"Feb 19 10:27
schestowitzI think that's the begining of the end of Battistelli reign.Feb 19 10:27
schestowitzWhen it will explode, it will create a scandal bigger that the Edith Cresson scandal (another French) at the European Commission in 1999. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/belgium/1425715/Cresson-charged-four-years-after-European-Union-fraud-scandal.html).Feb 19 10:27
schestowitzEdith Cresson only appointed a friend (and it created a scandal).... Battistelli does 100 times worst. Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz"Feb 19 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Cresson charged four years after European Union fraud scandal - TelegraphFeb 19 10:27
schestowitz"Feb 19 10:27
schestowitzAs we read the various comments from the anonymice, keep in mind, dear Reader, that a comment that gives every appearance of coming from an EPO Examiner might in fact be disinformation coming from a crony of the President. And vice versa, of course.Feb 19 10:27
schestowitzAlready there is stuff on the other thread that seems to come from SUEPO head-bangers. Does it really? I'm skeptical. Feb 19 10:27
schestowitz"Feb 19 10:27
schestowitzLOLFeb 19 10:27
schestowitz"They are not in the Board but are leaders of units steered by the Linux Foundation, which is equally bad if not worse"Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz"Feb 19 10:38
schestowitzOther correspondants have confirmed thisFeb 19 10:38
schestowitzhere is a Fwd:-Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz"A quick surf shows they joined the Allseen Alliance, which is an IoTFeb 19 10:38
schestowitzgroup, which is managed by the LF.Feb 19 10:38
schestowitzI don't see them listed on the LF members page itself though - so theyFeb 19 10:38
schestowitzmay have joined an LF sub-group but not the LF as a whole (that is,Feb 19 10:38
schestowitzpaying the LF membership etc.).Feb 19 10:38
schestowitzGraham "Feb 19 10:38
schestowitz"Feb 19 10:38
schestowitzyes, indeedFeb 19 10:38
schestowitzDon't forget OpenDaylight and FoundryFeb 19 10:39
schestowitzNeela and RamjiFeb 19 10:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/568436956830380032Feb 19 10:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz It's amazing that Microsoft still manages to dominate large hardware-oriented corporations. That indicates limited competition!Feb 19 10:50
schestowitzSome hardware companies like HP are stuffed to the rim (at exec level) with 'former' Microsoft execsFeb 19 10:51
cubexyzHP used to have their own minicomputersFeb 19 10:57
cubexyzHP-UX is still being updatedFeb 19 11:00
cubexyzactually the 'old' HP was Unix friendly Feb 19 11:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/johnmarker005/status/568439201655492608Feb 19 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnmarker005: @schestowitz Kindly retweet this amazing Google-patent pending lock screen app:https://t.co/PHjzjXlPOP Video:https://t.co/qChtLcAZJ7Feb 19 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> play.google.com | App Locker with Guest Mode - Android Apps on Google PlayFeb 19 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.youtube.com | Smart Screen Plus Application Locker - Why do you need one - YouTubeFeb 19 11:02
cubexyzHP used to support Redhat & SUSE and they had a Unix support program in Greeley ColoradoFeb 19 11:03
cubexyzthat was disbanded in August 1st, 2001Feb 19 11:03
cubexyzPCL (for printers) and SCL (for scanners) was completely supported in Unix/LinuxFeb 19 11:04
cubexyzand guess what happened?Feb 19 11:07
cubexyzSCL was discontinued...Feb 19 11:07
cubexyzPCL 6 was optimized for windowsFeb 19 11:07
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cubexyzI think PCL 6 is still supported by CUPS thoughFeb 19 11:08
cubexyzPCL 6 'enhanced' was designed to match the drawing model of Windows GDIFeb 19 11:08
cubexyzall this was foreshadowed in the Halloween DocumentsFeb 19 11:09
cubexyzso old Microsofties at HP exec level does not surprise me at allFeb 19 11:11
cubexyzalso blame RealTek for some of this nonsense...Feb 19 11:12
cubexyzRTS8891 chip had no programming documentation, typical of post 2001 scannersFeb 19 11:12
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cubexyzon the other side of the coin Epson scanners all just work with LinuxFeb 19 11:15
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cubexyzmaybe the old Microsofties will kill off HP-UXFeb 19 11:23
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cubexyzhere's an idea... why doesn't the FSF start making their own hardware :)Feb 19 11:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fcassia/status/568450899665924096Feb 19 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fcassia: Microsoft's Trojan horse strategy to rule the world http://t.co/je6nIlO3oI cc/@schestowitz #TheCloudIsTheAPI #FogComputingFeb 19 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techrepublic.com | Microsoft's Trojan horse strategy to rule the world - TechRepublicFeb 19 11:45
cubexyzjust don't give Microsoft any moneyFeb 19 11:51
cubexyzthere's a simple rule :)Feb 19 11:51
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/petrock/status/568454886230077440Feb 19 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrock: @schestowitz I'm thinking "Linux" should engulf Microsoft and take on Mac OS X.Feb 19 12:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | The 8 best desktop environments for Linux | ITworldFeb 19 12:20
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma Media Center at Plasma Sprint 2015Feb 19 12:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | Demand for Linux devs shows seven per cent increase | ITProPortal.comFeb 19 12:20
Sosumihttp://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/lenovo-honestly-thought-youd-enjoy-that-superfish-https-spyware/Feb 19 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Lenovo honestly thought you’d enjoy that Superfish HTTPS spyware | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jrdrl ]Feb 19 12:25
SosumilolFeb 19 12:25
XFaCEhttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptopsFeb 19 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Lenovo Is Breaking HTTPS Security on its Recent Laptops | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jrdpa ]Feb 19 12:31
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cubexyzwell if you blank out the hard drive and install Linux/BSD/Plan9 etc I assume that gets rid of superfish?Feb 19 13:17
cubexyzhopefully it's not in the BIOS or other firmwareFeb 19 13:18
MinceRindeedFeb 19 13:19
MinceRor if you get a thinkpadFeb 19 13:19
MinceRat least one site said it's only on the consumer modelsFeb 19 13:19
MinceRhttp://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/Feb 19 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]Feb 19 13:19
MinceRthis oneFeb 19 13:19
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cubexyzlooks like OS level stuffFeb 19 13:21
MinceRunlike the NSA malware :>Feb 19 13:23
MinceR(the one in the HDD firmware, that is)Feb 19 13:23
cubexyznastyFeb 19 13:25
cubexyzthey don't even know if it's NSA or black hatsFeb 19 13:27
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cubexyzor both I supposeFeb 19 13:27
MinceRthe NSA _is_ black hatsFeb 19 13:27
cubexyzyesFeb 19 13:28
MinceRthey've been undermining the security of software used by the taxpayers whom they parasitizeFeb 19 13:28
cubexyzone article mentions nls_933w.dllFeb 19 13:28
cubexyzso it seems they are reprogramming the hard drive with customized firmware via some dllFeb 19 13:30
cubexyzcheck your boot loader for tampering Feb 19 13:31
cubexyzif the code is not removal by flashing there's definitely a problemFeb 19 13:33
cubexyzI mean if they _are_ reprogramming firmware, then it's flashable then it's removable tooFeb 19 13:34
cubexyzstoring itself in hidden sectors of the hard drive, that's cleverFeb 19 13:36
cubexyzsurvives disk formatting and os reinstallsFeb 19 13:37
cubexyzalso... this is interesting too... piezo-electric shock sensors know if your hard drive has been droppedFeb 19 13:42
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cubexyzMinceR, not that I'm recommending Lenovo, but they do have one netbook without an OSFeb 19 13:49
cubexyzI hear they are storing windows 8 product keys in the BIOS now, yet another thing to considerFeb 19 13:51
XRevan86cubexyz: SLIC is the name.Feb 19 13:52
XRevan86(but actually it's MSDM)Feb 19 13:52
cubexyzwhen did that start?Feb 19 13:54
cubexyzI assume it's recentFeb 19 13:54
XRevan86cubexyz: VisnuFeb 19 13:55
XRevan86(visnu (russian): be hanged/freezed)Feb 19 13:56
cubexyzlol, ok I thought you might have meant Vista :)Feb 19 13:56
cubexyzthanks for the clarificationFeb 19 13:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 to Switch to Linux Kernel 3.19Feb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Very Soon http://t.co/kSYbbsv74aFeb 19 14:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and FirstFeb 19 14:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First ARMv8 Board | Tux MachinesFeb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/21DJABO83dFeb 19 14:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 19 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards soldFeb 19 14:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold | Tux MachinesFeb 19 14:02
XRevan86Oh my, I just remembered what I have seen this morning (GMT+3)Feb 19 14:02
XRevan86http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-mateFeb 19 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packages.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu – Package Search Results -- ubuntu-mate [ http://ur1.ca/jref6 ]Feb 19 14:02
XRevan86Apparently Ubuntu MATE is now an official flavourFeb 19 14:03
cubexyzXRevan86, I hear you can get the license key (if you really must) via:Feb 19 14:10
cubexyzls /sys/firmware/acpi/tablesFeb 19 14:10
XRevan86cubexyz: That is correct :).Feb 19 14:10
cubexyzmy computer is too old for that stuff anywaysFeb 19 14:11
XRevan86Mine had OEM LinpusFeb 19 14:11
XRevan86cubexyz: Still, I know some stuff about it because my friend gave me an OEM key which I gave to my sister :)Feb 19 14:11
XRevan86cubexyz: Other important thing is that OEM Windows should never be booted.Feb 19 14:15
XRevan86this action locks the key to hardwareFeb 19 14:15
cubexyzwell I try my best not to do that :)Feb 19 14:15
cubexyzin the old days I just assembled white box PCs Feb 19 14:16
cubexyzamazing the influence microsoft has on hardware manufacturersFeb 19 14:18
cubexyzit's insidiousFeb 19 14:18
msbUpgrade of HTTP protocol coming:  http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/18/http2-speed-up-web-browsing-desktop-mobileFeb 19 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | What is HTTP/2 and is it going to speed up the web? | Technology | The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jrexq ]Feb 19 15:29
XRevan86msb: Indeed.Feb 19 15:29
msbHope it doesn't interfere with Ad-Blocker!Feb 19 15:30
XRevan86msb: I doubt that :).Feb 19 15:30
msbI went to look at an article posted here about desktop environments, and it was showing one page at a time with ads.  The first ad showed bug larvae moving around.  I decided I didn't need to read it.Feb 19 15:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP Targets Cisco and Facebook With New Line ofFeb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Open-Source Networking GearFeb 19 15:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too ManyFeb 19 15:45
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OSFeb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines                 Designed for Creative PeopleFeb 19 15:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People | Tux MachinesFeb 19 15:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A developer's guide to getting into open sourceFeb 19 15:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A developer's guide to getting into open source | Tux MachinesFeb 19 15:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lumina Desktop 0.8.2 Released!Feb 19 15:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lumina Desktop 0.8.2 Released! | Tux MachinesFeb 19 15:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     http://t.co/5vV90nMVBx (www.x.org) X ServerFeb 19 15:46
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/SBUUn87.jpgFeb 19 16:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux KernelFeb 19 16:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel Releases | Tux MachinesFeb 19 16:20
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DaemonFCRyan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFC5 mins · Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFCA load of bull**** closed down an exit ramp off of I-65.Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFCOn the way to or from the governor's office?Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFChttp://www.jconline.com/story/news/2015/02/19/frozen-fecal-matter-closes-exit-ramp/23685539/?fb_action_ids=316930078517030&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 19 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jconline.com | Frozen fecal matter closes I-65 exit ramp [ http://ur1.ca/jrgov ]Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFCRyan Farmer commented on an article.Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFC26 mins · Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFCAt least the Republicans are finally regulating some women that they all have first hand experience with. (Except for the ones that prefer to meet young men on Craigslist and try to pay them off with their wristwatch and iPad. *grin*)Feb 19 19:55
DaemonFChttp://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/02/19/indiana-strippers-face-state-licensing-under-senate-bill/23674199/?fb_action_ids=316885015188203&fb_action_types=og.commentsFeb 19 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indystar.com | Will bill to regulate Indiana strippers curb sex trafficking? [ http://ur1.ca/jrgp0 ]Feb 19 19:55
MinceRpoosicle :DFeb 19 19:56
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MinceRs/oo/oop/Feb 19 19:57
DaemonFCIt had to be frozen so it would get to Governor Pence good and fresh.Feb 19 20:14
DaemonFCMaybe they were going to make a statue of him out of it.Feb 19 20:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OSFeb 19 20:24
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DaemonFC`Ryan Farmer Whenever I read anything that a religious fundamentalist has said, my brain feels like someone sprayed Vicks Chloraseptic Spray all over it. for about 10 minutes. It's the strangest sensation.Feb 19 20:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 19/2/2015: Hewlett-Packard on CumulusFeb 19 20:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux, Previews of GNOME 3.16 BetaFeb 19 20:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Enlist in the Android Army: A beginner’s guideFeb 19 20:41
TweetTuxMachines                 to Android http://t.co/UIwKQFHD4bFeb 19 20:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.digitaltrends.com) defector from apple toFeb 19 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | A Beginner's Guide to Android | Everything to Know | Digital TrendsFeb 19 20:41
TweetTuxMachines                 android linuxFeb 19 20:41
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5622078Feb 19 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: it is a sad fact that honest, independent sites often perish whereas those that sell out for company/plutocrat thrive, hire, spread moreFeb 19 20:44
schestowitz"Feb 19 20:44
schestowitzAs wealth is concentrated, power is concentrated. The plutocrats control all the wealth, so they control all the advertising and the advertising funded press. Press concentration brings yet more power to those who already have too much.Feb 19 20:44
schestowitzAnti-trust laws and laws against media consolidation in the US have broken down almost completely.Feb 19 20:44
schestowitz"Feb 19 20:44
schestowitzI didn't know there were such laws at allFeb 19 20:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Boxes 3.16 Will Bring a Cool WelcomeFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Screen and Numerous ImprovementsFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RjjFvn3PKl (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh0jFeb 19 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Boxes 3.16 Will Bring a Cool Welcome Screen and Numerous Improvements - SoftpediaFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Cheese 3.16 Beta Brings Warning Fixes and CodeFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Cleanup http://t.co/TbfOXtW3PRFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Cheese 3.16 Beta Brings Warning Fixes and Code Cleanup - SoftpediaFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh0kFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Unity 8 Continues Working Towards ProperFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Support http://t.co/QlvfXI85aBFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 19 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Unity 8 Continues Working Towards Proper Desktop Support - PhoronixFeb 19 20:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh0lFeb 19 20:46
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5621970Feb 19 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ect are still scumbags without tact. They ask #microsoft mouthpiece Rob Enderle for 'analysis' of #google http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/81722.html?rss=1 [1/2]Feb 19 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxinsider.com | Yandex Asks Russian Authorities to Drop the Hammer on Google | Tech Law | LinuxInsider [ http://ur1.ca/jrh0x ]Feb 19 20:47
schestowitz"Oh, that guy. http://archive09.linux.com/articles/38081 https://web.archive.org/web/20040928043900/http://pl.caldera.com/2004forum/agenda/Enderle_keynote_SCO-Forum2004.html"Feb 19 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive09.linux.com | Linux.com :: Some advice for SCO/Microsoft ally Rob Enderle [ http://ur1.ca/jrh0z ]Feb 19 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Rob Enderle Keynote Address [ http://ur1.ca/jrh10 ]Feb 19 20:47
schestowitz"Feb 19 20:48
schestowitzIn his speech, Enderle said of Groklaw: "The site is supported by a marketing executive whose future is tied to the future of Linux and has strong political skills." I asked Pamela Jones (PJ to Groklaw regulars) if this were true. She replied:Feb 19 20:48
schestowitzI'm not a marketing exec. He makes these things up, I guess. I also, as you know, do not work for or with IBM. I've stated so publicly, including in a letter to the editor for ZDNet, when they asked me to do so the last time this came up.Feb 19 20:48
schestowitzA simple Google search would have cleared up this matter, had he done one, so I see no excuse for him to say reckless, inaccurate things. I don't understand why anyone would say untrue things about someone. It's terribly wrong, in my view, and I feel he should apologize.Feb 19 20:48
schestowitzI'm just me. Groklaw is me. Me plus a large community that cares. Groklaw just tipped the 7,000 member mark, and it is still growing. That's all there is to it. I gather he imagines Groklaw is too good to be by little ole me, a nobody. Surely IBM must be behind it. But they aren't. Groklaw is a voice from the community, and if we are so effective that SCO and their gang feel they must attack Groklaw, I'm glad. But they should stick to Feb 19 20:48
schestowitzthe truth.Feb 19 20:48
schestowitzOf course, a girl could get positively tuckered out trying to teach the SCO group manners. Feb 19 20:48
schestowitz"Feb 19 20:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Files (Nautilus) 3.16 Beta 1 Is Out and ReadyFeb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 For TestingFeb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/qMw941ntBW (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh1uFeb 19 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Files (Nautilus) 3.16 Beta 1 Is Out and Ready For Testing - SoftpediaFeb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Say hi to cuttlefish! http://t.co/J4eJblsbTwFeb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (vizzzion.org)Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh1vFeb 19 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vizzzion.org | Say hi to cuttlefish! « vizZzion.org :: sebas' blogFeb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ETC2 Decoding Support In Mesa's Gallium3D ForFeb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Freedreno http://t.co/NUwmdLAJUrFeb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 19 20:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrh1wFeb 19 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | ETC2 Decoding Support In Mesa's Gallium3D For Freedreno - PhoronixFeb 19 20:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Getting Fedora 21 on the Raspberry Pi 2Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7aS9KnTNmt (error)Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrhbrFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu OS Firmware For The Aquaris E4.5 NowFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Available To Download And InstallFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/y5BVQxZaAo (androidheadlines.com)Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 linuxFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrheiFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution NowFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Supports Ubuntu Snappy CoreFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrhejFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Toshiba Laptops To Have Improved Support InFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux 3.20 http://t.co/kawUmqXp3GFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrhelFeb 19 21:55
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Toshiba Laptops To Have Improved Support In Linux...'Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sony SmartWatch 3 review: Android Wear can beFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 remarkably unremarkable http://t.co/zBPpAFFbg0Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theverge.com)Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrhemFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "PC preloaded with Wind River’s Linux-based IDPFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 XT IoT gateway stack running on quad- orFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 dual-core Atoms."Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kwMpep8ZVR (linuxgizmos.com)Feb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrhenFeb 19 21:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/0uROvL2i8dFeb 19 21:55
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DaemonFCControlled Opposition says:Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFCWhy should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos. Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFCIf we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFCControlled Opposition says:Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFCWhy should we care what people think? Good question. Something I lecture loved ones about all the time. But it is human nature and sometimes it is important. Like sometimes it's a good idea to cover up those tattoos. Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFCIf we really cared what people think, Mr. Dobbs, you and I wouldn't post here at all. Btw, I spent a month in Indiana one weekend.Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFCoopsFeb 19 22:44
DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFCDid you meet an 18 year old man in a hotel room for a really good time while being an outspoken anti-gay Republican? :)Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFCIt's not really the part about meeting an 18 year old in a hotel room that bothers me. I mean, 18 year olds know what they're doing. He knew he was going to have some Republican's nasty old balls all over him, and that was his choice. Eww. It's the whole anti-gay Republican part. Be one or the other. You know? :)Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFCThen, to top it all off, he got away with the "I spoke with God and he says I've been forgiven." thing, and the people who voted for him because he was sponsoring the anti-gay marriage amendment idea re-elected him.Feb 19 22:44
DaemonFCOf course, that was before the state went to court and got the gay marriage ban thrown out as unconstitutional. Now they're not even debating passing the amendment because they'd rather the entire issue go away without costing the state another $400,000 to defend another unconstitutional ban.Feb 19 22:44
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/9bIbCR1HmSFeb 19 23:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 19 23:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jri45Feb 19 23:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ninja Blocks Home Automation Solution NowFeb 19 23:51
TweetTuxMachines retweeted by    Supports Ubuntu Snappy CoreFeb 19 23:51
TweetTuxMachines @ColoDeskSpace  http://t.co/JDH5XWVu3Y (news.softpedia.com)Feb 19 23:51
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984Feb 20 04:13
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/suffert/status/568637145939881984Feb 20 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@suffert: "Kaspersky discovery shows that we must go even further, and demand open source firmware" http://t.co/kz8JNpKt3a via @schestowitzFeb 20 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.computerworlduk.com | Now Open Source Firmware Enters the Equation - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts - ComputerworldUK.comFeb 20 04:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568665907704131584  https://twitter.com/pixeldyne_sys/status/568666303663357953Feb 20 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz didn't it start with minix? depends how far you want to go I guessFeb 20 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne_sys: @schestowitz is it ethical to change tv channel? seems like a no brainer to meFeb 20 04:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     News coverage from linux events (of whichFeb 20 04:19
TweetTuxMachines                 there's plenty at present)Feb 20 04:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wCNBBu7Zoh (www.linux.com)Feb 20 04:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wNhr6Brkae (fossforce.com)Feb 20 04:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjnoFeb 20 04:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | 10 Great Quotes on PaaS and Containers from Collab Summit 2015 | Linux.comFeb 20 04:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Getting Things Started at SCALE 13x | FOSS ForceFeb 20 04:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proprietary android apps on a proprietaryFeb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines                 platform? No thanks, BlackBerryFeb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WVdh6RSTk4 (www.reuters.com)Feb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VX0up7dhsW (recode.net)Feb 20 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | BlackBerry updates software, offers access to Android apps | ReutersFeb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjotFeb 20 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-recode.net | BlackBerry Update Offers Access to Android Apps | Re/codeFeb 20 04:25
*TweetTuxMachines @lapletta followed @tuxmachinesFeb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Handset makers test Android's reignFeb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ROHQp3Poty (registration.ft.com) Feb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines                 negativity about the linux based leaderFeb 20 04:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjouFeb 20 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Handset makers test Android’s reign - FT.comFeb 20 04:25
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628227Feb 20 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/568499434264403969Feb 20 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: the more we learn about #NSA/#GCHQ exploits, the more I'm amazed at how little they've been able to do with them in fighting crimeFeb 20 04:36
schestowitz"Feb 20 04:36
schestowitz    Big Banks launder drug cartel money, and profit hugely off the police-state (the only three actors the Prohibition War benefits)Feb 20 04:36
schestowitz    Almost all public national 'debt' and bailouts are money handed to private financial interests who then use it to consolidate the economy, and buy public infrastructure from the 'bankrupt' governments (How to be a Fascist 101)Feb 20 04:36
schestowitz    Almost all foreign aid goes to warlords (gives power to the very people who destroy resilient communities)Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz    the CIA funds, arms and trains Al Qaeda/ISIS/ISIL/whatever-Hill-&-Knowlton-tells-them-to-call-their-asset-this-week-to-confuse-the-public, and yet we're supposed to give up our rights, drain our treasure, and go to war - 'cause terroristsFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    IMF and World Bank development plans literally retro-velope economies and societiesFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    "Free Trade" agreements are multi-thousand page documents negotiated in secretFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    Dept of War renamed Dept of 'Defense' right as military might projected offensively across the globe exponentiallyFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    'Federal' Reserve isn't federalFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    Gitmo was supposed to be closedFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    'Mission Accomplished'Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz    Attacked by Saudi extremists, go to war with only secular country in the region who had nothing to do with anythingFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    'Cost Plus'Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz    "Those WMD's have got to be around here somewhere? Over here? Nope! Under here? Nope!"Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz    "Patriot" ActFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    Parallel ConstructionFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    Operation NorthwoodsFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    False-FlagsFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    Organizations like ALEC draft all legislation (will the Gentleman from Coke please cede the podium to the Senator from BP), and legislators don't even read the bills they pass (and legalize insider-trading for themselves)Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz    Whistle-blowers, journalists and other political/economic enemies are imprisoned, character-assassinated, or murdered and tortured, while all nations point at each other and scream "Abuse!"Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz    The military bulldozes date/fig/pomogranite farms and protects poppy fields/distribution networks in 'peace-keeping' missionsFeb 20 04:37
schestowitz    The Establishment (including GE's MSNBC/Feb 20 04:37
schestowitzMaybe we can stop accepting unaccountable power Elites' justifications at face value...Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz"Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz"Ick....cynicism...I'm going to go back to anticipating my Librem 15 and buying my hobby farm..."Feb 20 04:37
schestowitz"Happy thoughts, positive thoughts, productive thoughts A_A"Feb 20 04:37
schestowitzLibrem won't do enough to correct things, but it's a startFeb 20 04:38
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5620844Feb 20 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/JamesRisen/status/567911078623068161Feb 20 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JamesRisen: I plan to spend the rest of my life fighting to undo damage done to press freedom in the United States by Barack Obama and Eric Holder.Feb 20 04:39
schestowitz"Yeah, sorry everyone. I swear I don't smoke ganja (lucky for us all)"Feb 20 04:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5628334Feb 20 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lenovo’s bundled adware also comes with hole http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/02/19/lenovos-bundled-adware-also-comes-worrying-security-hole/ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/02/further-evidence-lenovo-breaking-https-security-its-laptops back door? #lenovo #thinkpad #chinaFeb 20 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> thenextweb.com | Lenovo's Bundled Adware Comes With A Big Security Problem [ http://ur1.ca/jre5s ]Feb 20 04:39
schestowitz"Only available for Windows?"Feb 20 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eff.org | Lenovo Is Breaking HTTPS Security on its Recent Laptops | Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jrdpa ]Feb 20 04:39
schestowitzAnother Windows exclusiveFeb 20 04:39
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Handset makers test Android's reign http://t.co/ROHQp3Poty negativity...'Feb 20 04:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Handset makers test Android’s reign - FT.comFeb 20 04:43
*TweetTuxMachines @mchmarny favourited 'News coverage from linux events (of which there's...'Feb 20 04:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     All Ubuntu Phones Are Now Sold Out, Says BQ onFeb 20 04:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Twitter http://t.co/QhaX2tF3OwFeb 20 04:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 04:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | All Ubuntu Phones Are Now Sold Out, Says BQ on Twitter - SoftpediaFeb 20 04:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjsqFeb 20 04:46
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peterelvidge/status/568709604495863808Feb 20 04:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@peterelvidge: @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/kfigt5KAD9… http://t.co/w7oWhlDcp3Feb 20 04:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> t.co | t.co / TwitterFeb 20 04:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> pixelartistpete.wordpress.com | @schestowitz: Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People http://t.co/HjFtv5r5MQ #debian #futurestudio #gnu #linux #art | Epic Pixel Art By Peter ElvidgeFeb 20 04:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OSFeb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Designed for Creative PeopleFeb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jLrOo6zdMU (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjxhFeb 20 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Introducing Future Studio, a Debian-Based OS Designed for Creative People - SoftpediaFeb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards soldFeb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/LiW5Wr139f (www.zdnet.com)Feb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9FIx2BopMD (www.theinquirer.net)Feb 20 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 Model B boards sold | ZDNetFeb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjxkFeb 20 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | 500,000 Raspberry Pi 2 models sold as total sales hit five million- The InquirerFeb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On LinuxFeb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/um3b8jykFS (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjxlFeb 20 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Surreal Platformer Tulpa Now Available On Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 20 05:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     HP to Ship Commodity Switches With CumulusFeb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux OS http://t.co/FmMA3m8tGMFeb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.datacenterknowledge.com)Feb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/cKtc4XS0EC (bits.blogs.nytimes.com)Feb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pSCbW09PvoFeb 20 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datacenterknowledge.com | HP to Ship Commodity Switches With Cumulus Linux OS | Data Center KnowledgeFeb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com)Feb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjy2Feb 20 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-myaccount.nytimes.com | Log In - The New York TimesFeb 20 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com | HP Announces Linux Powered Open Networking SwitchesFeb 20 05:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and FirstFeb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines                 ARMv8 Board http://t.co/lUgtrC9jYuFeb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com) http://t.co/wnfApGOgt1Feb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (mrpogson.com)Feb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjy5Feb 20 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | Linaro Launches 96Boards SBC Standard and First ARMv8 Board | Linux.comFeb 20 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com | Hmmmm… 96Boards Could Be To ARM What ATX Was To x86 | Robert PogsonFeb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In ForFeb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines                 Snappy Ubuntu http://t.co/jU60NbszvvFeb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.forbes.com)  http://t.co/JonJFiRSvDFeb 20 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Canonical Achieves Broad Industry Buy-In For Snappy Ubuntu - ForbesFeb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.canadianreviewer.com)Feb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjy6Feb 20 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.canadianreviewer.com | Sales of Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition smartphone begin in EU - Canadian Reviewer - Reviews, News and Opinion with a Canadian PerspectiveFeb 20 05:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too ManyFeb 20 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Things Needed Fixing http://t.co/UEtM7ZN10AFeb 20 05:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 Almost Got GTK+ 3.16, but Too Many Things Needed Fixing - SoftpediaFeb 20 05:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrjzbFeb 20 05:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Qt 5.5 is expected to ship in about twoFeb 20 05:24
TweetTuxMachines                 months" http://t.co/TsJKjqcwn4Feb 20 05:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 20 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Qt 5.5 Features: Many Exciting Improvements - PhoronixFeb 20 05:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chainsaw Warrior  Lords of the Night Board GameFeb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 Lands On Steam for LinuxFeb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/28J1SNoCc5 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 05:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Chainsaw Warrior: Lords of the Night Board Game Lands on Steam for Linux - SoftpediaFeb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Wear 5.0.2 Update Starts Rolling OutFeb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 With Some Google Fit Fixes In TowFeb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/mG8qf2QAci (www.androidpolice.com)Feb 20 05:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | Android Wear 5.0.2 Update Starts Rolling Out With Some Google Fit Fixes In TowFeb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Docker Thriving http://t.co/AOyo5SIcvLFeb 20 05:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (ostatic.com) http://t.co/uNLyPEYuO0Feb 20 05:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | RightScale's State of the Cloud Survey: Hybrid Clouds, Docker ThrivingFeb 20 05:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | Docker Project Partners with Oceanic Society for Open-source-a-thon to Support Whale and Marine Wildlife Conservation | Business WireFeb 20 05:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LinHES R8.3 Released http://t.co/1xHzMvJKWUFeb 20 05:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linhes.org | LinHES - LinHES R8.3 ReleasedFeb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux KernelFeb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines                 Releases http://t.co/R1xdfIyPRL (www.eweek.com)Feb 20 05:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | A Quick Look at Eight Recent Linux Kernel ReleasesFeb 20 05:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | The Linux Foundation Reports on the State of Kernel DevelopmentFeb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS releasedFeb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/AcrcBlXlGV (lists.ubuntu.com)Feb 20 05:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.ubuntu.com | Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS releasedFeb 20 05:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     RAID 5/6 Continues Being Improved For BtrfsFeb 20 06:16
TweetTuxMachines                 With Linux 3.20 http://t.co/uNkovwA9CQFeb 20 06:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | RAID 5/6 Continues Being Improved For Btrfs With Linux 3.20 - PhoronixFeb 20 06:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released withFeb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines                 Updated Apps and BugfixesFeb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GnyXE2aCn0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released with Updated Apps and Bugfixes | Tux MachinesFeb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature FreezeFeb 20 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature Freeze | Tux MachinesFeb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Qt3D 2.0 The FrameGraph http://t.co/6xSy0Z1WBvFeb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qt3D 2.0 The FrameGraph | Tux MachinesFeb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3Feb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/pqtjRdQMeU (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 07:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3 | Tux MachinesFeb 20 07:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS IsFeb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8Feb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/0c4EO7Zb6I (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 07:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8 | Tux MachinesFeb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Final has arrived!"Feb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fywnPElGslFeb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.clearfoundation.com)Feb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkqmFeb 20 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.clearfoundation.com | 490-clearos-community-660-now-available | ClearFoundation-BlogFeb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Xubuntu Lubuntu & Ubuntu GNOME have newFeb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 releases  http://t.co/ES6OqbMCslFeb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/SnUti9J9pYFeb 20 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released with Updated Apps and Bugfixes - SoftpediaFeb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com) http://t.co/lcVcGfALP9Feb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu GNOME 14.04.2 LTS Lands with New Kernel and Lots of Fixes - Gallery - SoftpediaFeb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkqoFeb 20 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Brings Better Hardware Support Thanks to Linux Kernel 3.16 - SoftpediaFeb 20 07:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature FreezeFeb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/j0apYaLemu (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkrdFeb 20 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Hits Feature Freeze - SoftpediaFeb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WDLOEuTTg8 (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkreFeb 20 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME Photos Has Been Ported to GEGL 0.3 - SoftpediaFeb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS IsFeb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines                 Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/b6JCIYBLsU (news.softpedia.com)Feb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkrfFeb 20 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Proxmox VE (Virtual Environment) 3.4 OS Is Based on Debian Wheezy 7.8 - SoftpediaFeb 20 07:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releasesFeb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/SNtX3rKZYJ (www.zdnet.com)Feb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkvbFeb 20 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases | ZDNetFeb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releasesFeb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/1WtIfXFXF1 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkvcFeb 20 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi: New Raspbian and NOOBS releases | Tux MachinesFeb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Now Available!Feb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Ig5djR8SMi (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 08:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrkveFeb 20 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ClearOS Community 6.6.0 Now Available! | Tux MachinesFeb 20 08:09
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Sosumihttps://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/Feb 20 10:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-firstlook.org | The Great SIM Heist: How Spies Stole the Keys to the Encryption Castle [ http://ur1.ca/jrepr ]Feb 20 10:07
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__martin__news broke regards whole secure access products and solutions trust-breachFeb 20 11:23
__martin__see the correlation between mainstream media's ukraine & tanks / isis propaganda push and flow of Ed Joseph Snow docs?Feb 20 11:25
__martin__it ain't just a gas reserves and vast land waiting for gmo in UA anymore..Feb 20 11:25
__martin__alsoFeb 20 11:26
__martin__dafuq is thisFeb 20 11:26
__martin__http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/02/19/1830232/microsofts-first-azure-hosted-service-is-powered-by-linuxFeb 20 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org | Microsoft's First Azure Hosted Service Is Powered By Linux - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jrm21 ]Feb 20 11:26
__martin__schestowitz: how many sim cards you got with wife? any older than 2010?Feb 20 11:27
__martin__how does one reason out exfiltration and newspeak to his female partner without coming out as a person with mental disorder?Feb 20 11:29
__martin__tried myself hard and failed xDFeb 20 11:29
__martin__btw btw, the utter worst shiet of the week, CNN headline calls those "eathing healthy and demanding non-gmo veggies" with this "Orthorexia nervosa" Feb 20 11:31
__martin__eating*Feb 20 11:31
__martin__</end_rant>Feb 20 11:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 ethical open source hacking tools forFeb 20 12:30
TweetTuxMachines                 business http://t.co/0oekne51ReFeb 20 12:30
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 12:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrmg5Feb 20 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 ethical open source hacking tools for business | Tux MachinesFeb 20 12:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 20/2/2015: Bloomberg Joins LinuxFeb 20 12:30
TweetTuxMachines                 Foundation, ClearOS Community 6.6.0Feb 20 12:30
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aQbjl78r5J (techrights.org)Feb 20 12:30
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrmg7Feb 20 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 20/2/2015: Bloomberg Joins Linux Foundation, ClearOS Community 6.6.0 | TechrightsFeb 20 12:30
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cubexyzwhich OEM would you say is the most Linux friendly?Feb 20 13:01
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cubexyzI guess Acer isn't too badFeb 20 13:03
cubexyznot that I really think Acer laptops are good, they're notFeb 20 13:03
cubexyzbut they do support LinuxFeb 20 13:03
XRevan86cubexyz: I'm using an Acer laptop :)Feb 20 13:03
XRevan86and so is my motherFeb 20 13:03
cubexyzany problems with overheating and shutdowns?Feb 20 13:04
XRevan86cubexyz: nope o_0Feb 20 13:04
cubexyzwhich models? Feb 20 13:04
XRevan86TE11HC and TE69KBFeb 20 13:04
cubexyzI have an acer aspire 5534 which overheatsFeb 20 13:05
XRevan86Notable that on TE69KB stock Linpus goes to kernel panic instantly after booting.Feb 20 13:05
cubexyzhave you ever tried panasonic toughbooks? They work very wellFeb 20 13:05
XRevan86cubexyz: No, never.Feb 20 13:06
XRevan86cubexyz: I'm not an expert in laptops, these two are being chosen because they were the best in price category "truly cheap"Feb 20 13:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's leftovers http://t.co/sDx97vXgTgFeb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrmq3Feb 20 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PNE20iAJJd (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrmq4Feb 20 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3 | Tux MachinesFeb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     INTERVIEW: TIM O’REILLY http://t.co/w9ytCaWD7hFeb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 13:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrmq5Feb 20 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | INTERVIEW: TIM O’REILLY | Tux MachinesFeb 20 13:09
cubexyzXRevan86, I thought about finding a laptop with easily upgradeable video cardFeb 20 13:10
cubexyze.g. a laptop that supports MXMFeb 20 13:10
cubexyzI'm not completely happy with any laptop, but toughbook CF-48 comes closeFeb 20 13:10
XRevan86And I prefer integrated graphics :)Feb 20 13:11
cubexyzI have to consider repairabilityFeb 20 13:12
XRevan86cubexyz: I doubt that's easy to check.Feb 20 13:12
cubexyzyou're right, it's notFeb 20 13:12
XRevan86and impossible to have on thin laptopsFeb 20 13:12
cubexyzit's one of the things I'm always researchingFeb 20 13:13
cubexyzI see lots of info on "least repairable laptops"Feb 20 13:14
XRevan86cubexyz: Let me guess: it's full of macbooksFeb 20 13:14
cubexyzyesFeb 20 13:15
XRevan86https://startpage.com/do/search?query=least+repairable+laptops who could imagine…Feb 20 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-startpage.com | least repairable laptops - Startpage Web Search [ http://ur1.ca/jrmrl ]Feb 20 13:16
cubexyzone time I asked for a laptop with all replaceable parts, and the guy just laughed at meFeb 20 13:16
cubexyzbuy two :)Feb 20 13:16
XRevan86cubexyz: One can dream…Feb 20 13:16
MinceRone can replace the laptop with another laptop :>Feb 20 13:17
XRevan86Laptops look like a complete freedom on a tablet/smartphone background.Feb 20 13:18
cubexyzI fix laptopsFeb 20 13:18
cubexyzso far I can say Dell Dimension laptops suck :)Feb 20 13:18
XRevan86cubexyz: Maybe it's awesome only in fifth dimention.Feb 20 13:18
cubexyzhahaFeb 20 13:19
XRevan86you just can't see that, you, three-dimentional peasantFeb 20 13:19
cubexyzI ran out of lettersFeb 20 13:19
MinceRi can say everything from dHell sucksFeb 20 13:19
XRevan86Maybe fifth dimention is hell, that would explain that.Feb 20 13:19
cubexyzI'm not sure things are improving on the repair frontFeb 20 13:20
cubexyzprobably it's getting worseFeb 20 13:20
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Creating Forms for Easy LibreOffice DatabaseFeb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Entry on Linux http://t.co/fRMCLO2IVIFeb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrn2jFeb 20 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Creating Forms for Easy LibreOffice Database Entry on Linux | Tux MachinesFeb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/eCXI5VRZzQFeb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrn2lFeb 20 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Enterprise Software Giants Live In An OpenFeb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Source World http://t.co/ZrhFjQp01SFeb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrn2nFeb 20 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Enterprise Software Giants Live In An Open Source World | Tux MachinesFeb 20 14:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Untangling the intense politics behind Node.jsFeb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrn2oFeb 20 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js | Tux MachinesFeb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support,Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Fixes 71 Bugs http://t.co/SLKzdgDwiUFeb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrn2pFeb 20 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support, Fixes 71 Bugs | Tux MachinesFeb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPUFeb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Driver Code http://t.co/vGR0g0DiCDFeb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 14:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrn2qFeb 20 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPU Driver Code | Tux MachinesFeb 20 14:01
*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21'Feb 20 14:01
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*TweetTuxMachines @techdotpro retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Untangling the intense politics behind Node.js http://t.co/YMy1dDTK21'Feb 20 14:06
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MinceRhttp://www.whatdoesitmean.com/zzo1.pngFeb 20 14:07
msbMinceR: Good one!Feb 20 14:41
__martin__+1 shared furtherFeb 20 15:05
__martin__on BBSFeb 20 15:05
schestowitz+1Feb 20 15:16
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Demand for Linux developers on the riseFeb 20 15:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/O7PcyfzSuM (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 15:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrnknFeb 20 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Demand for Linux developers on the rise | Tux MachinesFeb 20 15:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux-based desktops work despite Windows appFeb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines                 prevalence http://t.co/qKveZLOE2PFeb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrnkoFeb 20 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based desktops work despite Windows app prevalence | Tux MachinesFeb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GDB 7.9 released http://t.co/YaOg5bMSXGFeb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrnkpFeb 20 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GDB 7.9 released | Tux MachinesFeb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims forFeb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines                 mobile developers http://t.co/ljVLbAmAkXFeb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 15:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrnksFeb 20 15:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims for mobile developers | Tux MachinesFeb 20 15:19
MinceRhttps://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/02/20/101235Feb 20 15:27
MinceRKDE is dying.Feb 20 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to theFeb 20 15:32
TweetTuxMachines                 space station http://t.co/6SJZxFSpMBFeb 20 15:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 20 15:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrnnqFeb 20 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi, oh my: From classrooms to the space station | Tux MachinesFeb 20 15:32
*TweetTuxMachines @ameanmbot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Node.js fork JXcore goes open source, aims for...'Feb 20 15:32
__martin__MinceR: atm @ fedora 21 / just curious, selinux+systemd, can you link me any in-depth audit, or I shall trust devs from Brno city?Feb 20 15:35
__martin__schestowitz: so roy, how many sim cards in total within household? gave mine in dec; introduced girl to textsecure, redphone, tox.imFeb 20 15:36
__martin__(pgp/gpg ain't noob-proof yet; nor router flashing)Feb 20 15:37
__martin__gave up*Feb 20 15:37
MinceR__martin__: huh?Feb 20 15:38
MinceRi don't trust fedora anymoreFeb 20 15:38
__martin__well my old HW needs radeon blobs soFeb 20 15:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5631763Feb 20 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So much #superfish blame thrown at #lenovo without pointing out #gnu #linux or #freesw as a way out of this kind of abuseFeb 20 15:47
schestowitz"I'm sitting this one out. I just get tired of telling people the same shit over and over, and hearing the same old excuses in response."Feb 20 15:47
schestowitz__martin__: at least proved you rightFeb 20 15:47
cubexyzdozerland can't get much worse I think :)Feb 20 15:48
schestowitzMinceR: http://m.forums.theregister.co.uk/post/reply/2375127Feb 20 15:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-m.forums.theregister.co.uk | Reply to post • Re: If systemd is so bad... • The Register Forums [ http://ur1.ca/jrns9 ]Feb 20 15:50
cubexyzwhen everyone always talks about excel when they really mean spreadsheet, or assume it's ipconfig rather than ifconfig (despite the fact that the Unix world invented ifconfig in 1982)Feb 20 15:51
cubexyznot to mention the death-grip the OEMs seem to be inFeb 20 15:51
cubexyzblame the schoolsFeb 20 15:53
cubexyzthat's where it all startsFeb 20 15:53
cubexyzeverything was mostly copied from DECFeb 20 15:55
cubexyzRT11, copied by Kildall to make CP/MFeb 20 15:55
schestowitz> http://yle.fi/uutiset/coding_soon_to_be_part_of_finnish_schoolchildrens_core_curriculum/7818567Feb 20 15:56
schestowitz> Feb 20 15:56
schestowitz> :\Feb 20 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yle.fi | Coding soon to be part of Finnish schoolchildren’s core curriculum | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [ http://ur1.ca/jrntj ]Feb 20 15:56
schestowitzIs Microsoft involved or just the minister connected to microsoft? Feb 20 15:56
TweetTuxMachines@linmagazine     #Sympleתחנת עבודה במארז מיני טאוור ידידותיFeb 20 16:01
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As DefaultFeb 20 16:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet | Tux MachinesFeb 20 16:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the coolest Android phone ever? | Tux MachinesFeb 20 16:01
cubexyzhttp://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/08/10/0047256/finlands-upper-secondary-school-exams-going-all-linux Feb 20 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.slashdot.org | Finland's Upper Secondary School Exams Going All-Linux - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jrnwq ]Feb 20 16:08
MinceRhttp://libertyblitzkrieg.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Screen-Shot-2015-02-20-at-1.43.43-PM-1024x559.jpgFeb 20 16:13
MinceR(also a slogan for systemd)Feb 20 16:13
cubexyzthere are alternatives to systemd :)Feb 20 16:13
MinceRand the cult is working on making everything dependent on itFeb 20 16:14
MinceRtheir goal being no choice for youFeb 20 16:14
cubexyzwell they can try but it won't work Feb 20 16:14
cubexyzicewm doesn't use systemd, I checkedFeb 20 16:14
MinceRyetFeb 20 16:15
__martin__schestowitz: thanks, I had a minor conversation with fauno, the philosopher of parabola.nu project; it's in people's neural pathways, pre-learned contexts, proprietary soft is an invisible layerFeb 20 16:16
__martin__yesFeb 20 16:16
__martin__commodity logic, he saidFeb 20 16:16
__martin__pathethic, head of mine faculty giving out free vi$ta8 tablets to excellent understand the most indoctrinated studentsFeb 20 16:18
__martin__or faplets for the most of themFeb 20 16:18
__martin__at least the college's library heard of openaccessFeb 20 16:19
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__martin__infopanels @ campus powered by XP [sic] ... fourteen y'ol OSFeb 20 16:20
cubexyzI can solve the OS problem :)Feb 20 16:21
__martin__better to say, not old but vulnerableFeb 20 16:21
__martin__xDFeb 20 16:21
cubexyzhttp://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-828-operating-system-engineering-fall-2012/Feb 20 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ocw.mit.edu | Operating System Engineering | Electrical Engineering and Computer Science | MIT OpenCourseWare [ http://ur1.ca/jro05 ]Feb 20 16:21
__martin__any of you guys already alienated close frieds, family relatives with refusing proprietary stuff?Feb 20 16:22
cubexyzof course notFeb 20 16:22
MinceRnoFeb 20 16:22
cubexyzwell maybe one friend who is a total microsoft fanboy but we're still friends Feb 20 16:23
cubexyzwe just don't talk about the whole microsoft thingFeb 20 16:23
cubexyzanyways, MIT uses xv6 a lotFeb 20 16:24
cubexyzMIT folks are often ahead of the curve anywaysFeb 20 16:26
cubexyzMIT, Berkeley... they know the scoreFeb 20 16:26
__martin__last summer i was in one flat not further than thirty kilometres from ukraine borders which had a settopbox from deutche telekom's subsidiary company and it was rolling on the magnetic HDD and fans on any occasion of verbal commuication within that living room Feb 20 16:27
__martin__pretty scaryFeb 20 16:27
__martin__complete black box, as wells as their routers for optical line.. never heard of anyone flashing openwrt on that piece of hwFeb 20 16:27
__martin__well*Feb 20 16:28
cubexyzhexedit the firmware and have a lookFeb 20 16:28
__martin__later on in early autumn i demonstrated OTR functionallity of pidgin some three kilometres +- from a military airport where u.s. jets are welcome all the timeFeb 20 16:33
__martin__last friday in a club i asked a policeman out of duty regards their treatment of chronic filesharers like meFeb 20 16:33
__martin__at least he was honest, said he just wanna reach his pension and not give a damnFeb 20 16:34
__martin__xDFeb 20 16:34
cubexyznot too many people understand all their firmwareFeb 20 16:35
MinceRmaybe only the amish do :>Feb 20 16:36
__martin__;DFeb 20 16:36
cubexyzmost routers were VXworks or linuxFeb 20 16:40
__martin__tbh, with RMS way of life for three months, am lucky no one called ambulance for me and detached me into rehabFeb 20 16:41
__martin__parents = ??? // thou i printed 'em out snowden doc and short report in their native langFeb 20 16:42
__martin__regards sim cardsFeb 20 16:42
cubexyzit's hard work reverse engineering firmware with no source codeFeb 20 16:46
__martin__so far worst dilemma are CCTVs in a village where father ran for a mayor; he has fb account, uses cracked win7 box and did not took me seriously when i gifted him for his b-day with FSF's e-mail self-defense guideFeb 20 16:48
__martin__with all this i just wanted to demostrate how far into one's life can technology goFeb 20 16:48
__martin__not sure for how much longer i could handle this hermit stance from othersFeb 20 16:49
__martin__thou i hope mr. joseph snow will push some more stuff sooner rather than laterFeb 20 16:49
__martin__</end_rant>Feb 20 16:49
__martin__such an oxymoron; in order to get free thoughts am going from time to time into a barbed-wire fenced reservation for deer and stuff, because disrespecting this private property brings me more freedom than walking the streets under cctv managed in the end within father's reachFeb 20 17:21
__martin__goshFeb 20 17:21
MinceRwhich country is that?Feb 20 17:23
__martin__the best thing is ofc anyways messing into overcrowded human areas where you forget the orwell's animal farm story with time passing byFeb 20 17:24
__martin__MinceR: post-soviet slovakia, near european surveillance hub.. austria (vienn)Feb 20 17:24
MinceRicFeb 20 17:26
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scientesi'm so tired of softwareFeb 20 17:56
MinceRwelcome to the clubFeb 20 17:56
__martin__+1Feb 20 17:56
scientesecho "linux" | cpp -E -Feb 20 17:58
scientes^^what a load of crapFeb 20 17:58
scientesthis is 2015 and I still can't name my variable "linux" or "unix"Feb 20 17:59
MinceRthere's a macro by that name that has a value of 1, apparentlyFeb 20 18:02
scientesits part of cppFeb 20 18:02
scientesits even documentedFeb 20 18:03
MinceRprobably so that c programs will know they're being built on/for linux and unixFeb 20 18:03
scientesthere is __linux__ for thatFeb 20 18:03
MinceRindeedFeb 20 18:03
MinceRi wonder why there are these undecorated versionsFeb 20 18:03
scientesthe cause me confusing bugsFeb 20 18:04
MinceRwhat's the purpose of a variable called that, though?Feb 20 18:05
cubexyzI don't think you can name an executable 'test' eitherFeb 20 18:06
MinceRi'm pretty sure you can, as there already is such an executable :>Feb 20 18:06
MinceRdoesn't make much sense to name another the same way, thoughFeb 20 18:06
cubexyzI think ld would complainFeb 20 18:07
cubexyzoh wait a secFeb 20 18:07
cubexyzI might have a directory testFeb 20 18:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For LinuxFeb 20 18:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For Linux 3.20/4.0? | Tux MachinesFeb 20 18:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Elementary OS 0.3 Freya Beta 2 : Video Overview and Screenshot Tours | Tux MachinesFeb 20 18:07
cubexyzso it wouldn't try to overwrite the directory :)Feb 20 18:08
cubexyzI remember one guy overwrote his wp.com file because his filename was wp.com Feb 20 18:09
cubexyzevery system has these types of thingsFeb 20 18:09
cubexyzin the olden days there was stroppingFeb 20 18:13
cubexyzbtw, if you were to use int linux; in unix v5 cc it would work :)Feb 20 18:20
cubexyzMinceR, you might find this interesting:Feb 20 18:32
cubexyzhttp://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/Feb 20 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkcl.net | Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]Feb 20 18:32
cubexyzthat's Jessie of courseFeb 20 18:33
cubexyzwheezy shouldn't be as difficultFeb 20 18:33
MinceRi've looked itFeb 20 18:36
MinceRhis related post on debian-user (?) was more interesting, though :)Feb 20 18:36
cubexyzyou have a link for that?Feb 20 18:37
MinceRhttps://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00695.htmlFeb 20 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Re: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jr2le ]Feb 20 18:42
MinceRthread starter: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00641.htmlFeb 20 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system [ http://ur1.ca/jros7 ]Feb 20 18:43
cubexyzok, Luke Leighton is a bit pessimistic here... but since he used Debian as his main distro I can see his concernFeb 20 18:47
cubexyzthere is no way are all the linux distros using systemd Feb 20 18:47
cubexyzs/are/that/Feb 20 18:47
MinceRit might happenFeb 20 18:47
MinceRconsidering what kde is doing, for exampleFeb 20 18:48
cubexyzno way... I'll make my own distro first :)Feb 20 18:48
MinceRsure, but what applications will be in it?Feb 20 18:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why you should consider cloud-hosted LinuxFeb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines                 desktops http://t.co/Nn8Zdw8LTAFeb 20 18:49
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cubexyzwell anything I want... firefox, fbreader, etcFeb 20 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why you should consider cloud-hosted Linux desktops | Tux MachinesFeb 20 18:49
MinceRthey might even get the bsd-sFeb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The open data platform, like United LinuxFeb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines                 before it, will fail http://t.co/sqzvnd4Hm8Feb 20 18:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The open data platform, like United Linux before it, will fail | Tux MachinesFeb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux clockpocalypse in 2038 is looming andFeb 20 18:49
TweetTuxMachines                 there's no 'serious plan'Feb 20 18:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux clockpocalypse in 2038 is looming and there's no 'serious plan' | Tux MachinesFeb 20 18:49
MinceRwho knows, maybe red hat will kill gnu and linux before 2038Feb 20 18:49
MinceRmaybe that's the planFeb 20 18:49
cubexyzalso there is no way in hell AIX or HP-UX will use systemdFeb 20 18:49
MinceRpoisoning the wellFeb 20 18:49
cubexyzthere will be forks probablyFeb 20 18:50
MinceRbut who will write/port applications to them?Feb 20 18:50
cubexyzas long as you have the toolchain... anyone can do thatFeb 20 18:51
cubexyzI still write PDP-11 code Feb 20 18:51
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cubexyzalso the Motif guys :)Feb 20 18:52
MinceRsure, but can you keep patching secholes in an entire distro?Feb 20 18:52
cubexyzthe old farts will not write systemd codeFeb 20 18:52
scientesits systemd/linux nowFeb 20 18:52
scientesand android/linuxFeb 20 18:52
cubexyzMinceR, I do that already remember?Feb 20 18:52
cubexyzFC1Feb 20 18:52
scientesi write systemd codeFeb 20 18:52
scientesit mostly sucks, but i doFeb 20 18:53
cubexyzok, well of course some people doFeb 20 18:53
MinceRof course it sucks, it's fedoraFeb 20 18:53
cubexyzespecially Red Hat peopleFeb 20 18:53
scientesummm, systemd is used by every gnu/linux distro nowFeb 20 18:53
scientesits only android thats differn'tFeb 20 18:53
cubexyzummm noFeb 20 18:53
MinceRnot everyFeb 20 18:53
scientesyesFeb 20 18:53
cubexyzslackware does notFeb 20 18:53
scientesevery oneFeb 20 18:53
MinceRslackware and its derivatives don't use itFeb 20 18:53
scienteswho caresFeb 20 18:53
MinceRgentoo supports it but uses openrc by defaultFeb 20 18:53
scientesagain who caresFeb 20 18:54
scientesits all systemd nowFeb 20 18:54
MinceRof course this won't help if all the application developers force systemdFeb 20 18:54
scientesnow that ubuntu switchedFeb 20 18:54
MinceRwho cares about ubuntuFeb 20 18:54
scientesand gnome will be nextFeb 20 18:54
scientesyou can't use gnome without systemdFeb 20 18:54
MinceRthe gnome people did the whole thingFeb 20 18:54
cubexyzrightFeb 20 18:54
scientesfor good reasonFeb 20 18:54
cubexyzthat's why there is ten billion other window managersFeb 20 18:54
scientessystemd is awesomeFeb 20 18:54
MinceRi don't miss gnome or kde, but they'll eventually start taking useful stuff away tooFeb 20 18:55
*scientes loves gnome 2Feb 20 18:55
scientes*gnome 3Feb 20 18:55
scientesi don't like gnome 2Feb 20 18:55
MinceRwayland is another fuckupFeb 20 18:55
scientesno it isn't Feb 20 18:55
MinceRit's windows for gnu/linuxFeb 20 18:55
MinceRall that's missing is moving the windowing system into the kernelFeb 20 18:56
MinceRonly it's even more retarded than winblowsFeb 20 18:56
MinceRwinblows at least had pointer capture/warp functionalityFeb 20 18:56
MinceRwayland omits that from the protocolFeb 20 18:56
MinceRand the wayland people are in love with client side decorationsFeb 20 18:56
cubexyztons of distros do not use systemdFeb 20 18:57
cubexyzthere's dozensFeb 20 18:57
MinceRit worked out great in windowsFeb 20 18:57
scientesbut there is less than a dozen distros that matterFeb 20 18:57
scientesMinceR, wayland fixes the huge security problems of XFeb 20 18:57
MinceRyes, and it also fixes the functionality of XFeb 20 18:58
scientesexcept noone uses that fu nctionality anymoreFeb 20 18:58
MinceRexcept plenty of people doFeb 20 18:58
scientesif you are talking about 1980s drawing primitivesFeb 20 18:58
MinceRi'm talking about pointer capture/warp and proper window managersFeb 20 18:58
cubexyzhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#GNU.2FLinux_distributionsFeb 20 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jrovf ]Feb 20 18:59
MinceRx2x, x2vnc and synergy relies on the former twoFeb 20 18:59
MinceRand so do fps gamesFeb 20 18:59
scientessystemd won guys, get over itFeb 20 18:59
MinceRwe'll seeFeb 20 18:59
scienteswayland is nextFeb 20 18:59
scienteslinus torvalds already said systemd wonFeb 20 18:59
cubexyzyou're clueless scientes Feb 20 18:59
MinceRwe'll also see if red hat and crApple also manage to kill *bsdFeb 20 18:59
cubexyzyou think IBM will use systemd? :)Feb 20 18:59
scientesyesFeb 20 19:00
MinceRi think there won't be an IBMFeb 20 19:00
cubexyzI think notFeb 20 19:00
scientesintel is heavily developing systemdFeb 20 19:00
scientesIBM will always be aroundFeb 20 19:00
scientesthey run so much of the economyFeb 20 19:00
scienteslike Wal-MartFeb 20 19:00
MinceRthey've already sold most of the companyFeb 20 19:00
scientesand euro-flight controlFeb 20 19:01
cubexyzit's just userland stuff, anyone can do whatever they wantFeb 20 19:03
MinceRalso, kde does some horrible hack with input to work around wayland's deficiency regarding pointer warpFeb 20 19:03
cubexyzthere's slack/390 for that matterFeb 20 19:03
MinceRbut apparently horrible hacks are cool nowFeb 20 19:04
scientesMinceR, are you aware of how X11 support compositing window managers?Feb 20 19:05
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scientesits a GIANT hackFeb 20 19:05
MinceRi am aware of itFeb 20 19:05
MinceRand i'm not using a compositing window managerFeb 20 19:05
MinceRand it's still not as much of a hack as what i mentioned aboveFeb 20 19:05
MinceRbut apparently the wayland way of fixing things is breaking them even more, and then not fixing anythingFeb 20 19:06
cubexyzsorry, but the Unix traditionalists won't switch to systemd Feb 20 19:08
cubexyzyou'll just see a mass exodus to alternative systemsFeb 20 19:10
scientesexcept systemd is more unix than what came before itFeb 20 19:11
scientesit supports multiseat for exampleFeb 20 19:11
cubexyzyou're just trollingFeb 20 19:11
scientesand now we finially have a proper IPC with kdbusFeb 20 19:12
MinceRmultiseat is a lame excuse to force systemd on us, and it doesn't even workFeb 20 19:12
scienteswhatever, are you contributing?Feb 20 19:12
scientesthen shut upFeb 20 19:12
MinceRno, you shut upFeb 20 19:12
cubexyzfuck off loser :)Feb 20 19:12
scientesthose that do the work make the decisionsFeb 20 19:12
__martin__lmaoFeb 20 19:12
scientesthats just the way it worksFeb 20 19:12
cubexyzyou don't even know meFeb 20 19:12
scientestrueFeb 20 19:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New features in Fedora 22 Workstation.Feb 20 19:12
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cubexyzI just released a new Unix v5 a week agoFeb 20 19:13
scientessry for being an assFeb 20 19:13
cubexyzyou're lucky I'm not Sokolov, he would have kicked youFeb 20 19:15
cubexyzbut whatever, everyone has an opinionFeb 20 19:15
scientesi was programming but i got frustratedFeb 20 19:16
scienteswith the #define linux thingFeb 20 19:17
cubexyzoh thatFeb 20 19:17
MinceRhave you tried #undef linux? :>Feb 20 19:17
cubexyzguys, I feel I should point out that there's lots of architectures out thereFeb 20 19:17
cubexyzwe are not all x86 Feb 20 19:18
scientesI was developing systemd on ARM for a whileFeb 20 19:18
MinceRindeed, i'm typing this on armv6 :>Feb 20 19:18
scientesarmv7Feb 20 19:18
scientesand i fixed the gold linker on armv5Feb 20 19:18
cubexyzif you like systemd fine, but don't shove it out everyone's throatFeb 20 19:18
cubexyzsome of us use Vax and PDP-11Feb 20 19:18
MinceRwhat i don't get is why don't the systemd/wayland crowd just shut up and use windows alreadyFeb 20 19:18
MinceRit's "designed" around the principles they apparently love so muchFeb 20 19:19
scientesMinceR, what is wrong with kdbus?Feb 20 19:19
MinceRit doesn't belong in the kernelFeb 20 19:19
MinceRit worked as fine as it ever will in userspaceFeb 20 19:19
scientesevery other os has an in-kernel IPCFeb 20 19:19
MinceRso does gnu/linuxFeb 20 19:19
scientesnot trueFeb 20 19:19
MinceRseveralFeb 20 19:19
scientesnow it is zero-copyFeb 20 19:19
MinceRunix domain sockets, mutexes, semaphoresFeb 20 19:20
MinceRshared memoryFeb 20 19:20
scientesbut shared memory is insecureFeb 20 19:20
scientesthe new memfd stuff makes shared memory secureFeb 20 19:20
MinceRgood thing the crap poettering codes up is secureFeb 20 19:20
MinceRoh waitFeb 20 19:20
MinceRsystemd is full of holesFeb 20 19:20
scientesI was amazed that we havn't had an unaligned memory access bug yetFeb 20 19:21
MinceRwith these people at the wheel, we willFeb 20 19:21
MinceRjust like now we have null pointer dereferences in pid1Feb 20 19:21
scientesthats trueFeb 20 19:21
scientespid 1 does a hell of alotFeb 20 19:22
scientesits over a megabyteFeb 20 19:22
MinceRand while they're trying to force dbus into the kernel, they'll take VT support out of the kernelFeb 20 19:22
scientesyepFeb 20 19:22
scientesbut that wont be in pid 1Feb 20 19:22
MinceRwhich will probably make it more difficult to recover from issuesFeb 20 19:22
scientesbut the reasons for it are soundFeb 20 19:22
MinceRapparently the main principle is "let's make it shittier"Feb 20 19:22
scientesa pid 1 crash doesn't crash the system thoughFeb 20 19:23
MinceRi doubt they'll do it in a way that will be worth itFeb 20 19:23
scientesso you will see be able to debug after pid 1 crashesFeb 20 19:23
MinceRi'd rather not have pid1 crash, and fix/restart the service that didFeb 20 19:23
MinceRkdbus is already said to depend on systemdFeb 20 19:24
scientesi've never had it crash when i wasn't hacking itFeb 20 19:24
MinceRso poettering finally gets what he wants: linux depending on systemdFeb 20 19:24
scienteskdbus does depend on systemdFeb 20 19:24
MinceRso much for not breaking userspaceFeb 20 19:24
scientesAFAIKFeb 20 19:24
cubexyzyou're forgetting that anyone can go back and just use an older versionFeb 20 19:24
MinceRyes, and deal with a growing list of known vulnerabilitiesFeb 20 19:25
MinceRwhile these retards work on introducing more of them in the newest versionsFeb 20 19:25
cubexyzsome Nuclear Power stations use PDP-11'sFeb 20 19:25
cubexyzbecause they know it inside and outFeb 20 19:25
MinceRand probably because they don't want a meltdown because poettering had a bad dayFeb 20 19:25
cubexyzthere is no XFeb 20 19:26
cubexyzit'Feb 20 19:26
MinceRwhy, is there X for PDP-11? :>Feb 20 19:26
cubexyzfor Vax yesFeb 20 19:26
cubexyznot PDP-11Feb 20 19:26
cubexyzat least I've never seen itFeb 20 19:26
__martin__gnome os aka linuxd/minwin concerns are legitimate, thou useds live in sandboxed chrome fog these days soon to be cyanogen/minwinFeb 20 19:27
cubexyzX version 6 was microvax... there was never a PDP-11 XFeb 20 19:27
cubexyzIBM RT alsoFeb 20 19:28
cubexyzthat was all started by MIT, DEC and IBMFeb 20 19:29
cubexyzif you know your historyFeb 20 19:29
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cubexyznow some really smart folks ran Plan 9 but it's a research OSFeb 20 19:30
MinceRmaybe i will tooFeb 20 19:30
MinceRif they manage to kill unixFeb 20 19:30
cubexyzit was better in a lot of ways, but it doesn't support new hardware too wellFeb 20 19:30
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cubexyzif you want traditional then run quasijarus OR run one of the BSDs like FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSDFeb 20 19:32
MinceRafaict freebsd is running a high risk of turning into freeosxFeb 20 19:32
MinceRwith launchd and other crApple crapFeb 20 19:32
scientesthere was a suggestion that freebsd adopt systemdFeb 20 19:32
cubexyzthere is no way Theo will use systemd :)Feb 20 19:32
scientesby one of the core developersFeb 20 19:33
MinceRand if all the applications start depending on systemd, even netbsd and openbsd will likely start using systemd shims or forksFeb 20 19:33
cubexyzok, well that's why there are forks, so everyone gets what they wantFeb 20 19:33
cubexyzI happen to like quasijarus but I run Linux tooFeb 20 19:33
MinceRno, it might well be that only the people who want gratis windows will get what they wantFeb 20 19:34
MinceRand we get to start struggling with driver support all over again, from zeroFeb 20 19:34
cubexyzwell MinceR what do you suggest?Feb 20 19:34
MinceRi have no ideaFeb 20 19:34
cubexyzI can run quasijarus and fix bugs so I'm happyFeb 20 19:34
MinceRi never knew what to do with stupid humans (which are the vast majority)Feb 20 19:34
cubexyzI don't have to use every new fangled thing that people come up withFeb 20 19:35
cubexyzof course there are disagreementsFeb 20 19:35
MinceRdoes quasijarus run on anything other than vax?Feb 20 19:35
cubexyzI don't go around telling people what to use, use whatever you wantFeb 20 19:35
cubexyzit was ported to HP9000 I thinkFeb 20 19:36
MinceRi don't have any of thoseFeb 20 19:37
cubexyzUnisys 7000Feb 20 19:37
MinceRjust pc-s, arm machines and a zx spectrumFeb 20 19:37
cubexyzprobably other ones I don't remember what happened after 4.3BSD Feb 20 19:37
cubexyzmicrovax is cheap to getFeb 20 19:38
cubexyzthe average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too bigFeb 20 19:38
cubexyzthe only way you will learn that stuff is if you go back into the past and learn the older versionsFeb 20 19:39
scientes<cubexyz> the average programmer can't know all of X even, it's too bigFeb 20 19:39
scientesexactlyFeb 20 19:39
cubexyzthere is FPGA if you want PDP-11 for modern hardwareFeb 20 19:39
cubexyzsome very interesting projectsFeb 20 19:40
scientesthats why it is being replaced by opengl+waylandFeb 20 19:40
scientesand since opengl fucked up on opengl3 perhaps DX11 tooFeb 20 19:40
scientesI just remember that i read the announcement of systemd and went "holy shit that makes sense!"Feb 20 19:41
scientesafter having experienced the stupidity that is upstartFeb 20 19:41
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MinceRreplacing x might be a good idea, just not with a retarded replacementFeb 20 19:52
MinceRas for DX11, that will never workFeb 20 19:52
MinceRnot only is it only supported on winblows, it's also controlled by m$Feb 20 19:52
cubexyzjust make a Xtiny or Xlight thenFeb 20 19:52
cubexyzit's been done beforeFeb 20 19:52
MinceRtrying to implement a spec m$ controls is _not_ a good ideaFeb 20 19:52
cubexyzXvesa I think was smallFeb 20 19:53
MinceRand yes, upstart was stupid tooFeb 20 19:53
MinceRwith its signal abuseFeb 20 19:53
MinceRbut there are plenty of sane init systems aroundFeb 20 19:53
scientesMinceR, they only did it cause the company that controls opengl bailed on their promise of a modern apiFeb 20 19:53
scientesKronosFeb 20 19:53
scienteslike systemdFeb 20 19:53
MinceRsystemd is supposed to be a "modern api"?Feb 20 19:53
scientesi was talking about DX11Feb 20 19:54
MinceRno, systemd is not saneFeb 20 19:54
MinceRits scope is sprawling, it's overly complex and it puts a lot of shoddy code in pid1Feb 20 19:54
scienteswhat is so horrible about it?Feb 20 19:54
MinceRand it's designed to be impossible to replaceFeb 20 19:54
MinceRoh, and to be non-portableFeb 20 19:54
scienteshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL#Longs_Peak_and_OpenGL_3.0_controversyFeb 20 19:54
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MinceRif sysvinit was designed like systemd, it would be impossible to replace sysvinit with systemdFeb 20 19:55
scientesbut software portability isn't the big thing, hardware portability isFeb 20 19:55
MinceRthe average programmer can't know all of systemdFeb 20 19:55
scientesand systemd should work on any 32-bit processor with a MMUFeb 20 19:56
MinceRmaybe it isn't to youFeb 20 19:56
MinceRbut of course, systemd fans don't recognize any use cases outside their ownFeb 20 19:56
cubexyzsome folks still use RT-11 for that matterFeb 20 19:56
MinceRthey're stuck in their little bubble of windows and macos running on pcFeb 20 19:56
cubexyzthey don't even need a multi-user OSFeb 20 19:56
cubexyzRTOS for stuff that has to be responsiveFeb 20 19:58
scienteshere is something crazy: I was contemplating a multi-threaded pid 1Feb 20 19:59
MinceRhere's something less crazy: run the minimum amount of code needed in pid1Feb 20 20:05
cubexyzthat would be Unix v7 or beforeFeb 20 20:06
cubexyzcompletely easy to understand tooFeb 20 20:06
MinceReven this could suffice:Feb 20 20:06
MinceRint main(void) { if (fork()) while (1) wait(NULL); else execl("/etc/rc", "rc", NULL); }Feb 20 20:07
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cubexyzI said it before... write MincerOS :)Feb 20 20:07
MinceRmaybe that will be my new hobbyFeb 20 20:07
MinceR(that oneliner wasn't written by me, btw)Feb 20 20:07
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/original-unix-v5-init.c.txtFeb 20 20:07
cubexyzyou still need a way to go back and forth from single to multi-user modeFeb 20 20:09
cubexyzand update wtmp of courseFeb 20 20:09
MinceRthe service manager can handle the runlevel-like stuffFeb 20 20:10
MinceRwhich would be started by /etc/rcFeb 20 20:10
cubexyzwell, maybe you would do things differently from ThompsonFeb 20 20:10
MinceRi'm not sure how wtmp worksFeb 20 20:11
cubexyzit's just a binary file used by acFeb 20 20:11
cubexyzmaybe new Linux doesn't have that nowdaysFeb 20 20:11
cubexyzkeeps track of user's connection timeFeb 20 20:11
MinceRlooks like wtmp doesn't need to be handled in pid1 eitherFeb 20 20:11
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cubexyzit also reads /etc/getty to know how many init processes to spawnFeb 20 20:14
MinceRwhich could be done by the service managerFeb 20 20:14
MinceRsomething like runit, perhapsFeb 20 20:15
MinceRgnFeb 20 20:15
*scientes thinks using a DAG for system services makes things less painfulFeb 20 20:15
scientesand that anything else is insaneFeb 20 20:15
cubexyzor rather reads /etc/ttysFeb 20 20:15
MinceReven a DAG doesn't have to be implemented in pid1Feb 20 20:15
MinceRand also doesn't need a DNS proxy built inFeb 20 20:15
MinceRor a uefi bootloaderFeb 20 20:16
scientesgummiboot is not part of systemdFeb 20 20:16
MinceRit is now!Feb 20 20:16
scientesits just developed by Kay SieversFeb 20 20:16
scientesand the patch i am working on right now does bring in it's BootLoaderSpecFeb 20 20:16
scientesfor kexecFeb 20 20:16
MinceRhere's a little article to read for alleged software developers who believe systemd is well designed >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cohesion_%28computer_science%29Feb 20 20:17
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cubexyzit's not hard to improve upon the status quoFeb 20 20:17
MinceRof course, any proper software engineering course includes discussion of cohesionFeb 20 20:17
MinceRbut apparently nobody at red hat finished such a courseFeb 20 20:18
cubexyzreduced module complexity, that describes early UnixFeb 20 20:19
cubexyzthat's why the MIT OS design course uses a modernized Unix v6Feb 20 20:19
MinceRnot shoving unrelated stuff into modules, i think that describes unix tooFeb 20 20:19
MinceRrather, not shoving unrelated stuff into the same module, i think that describes unix tooFeb 20 20:19
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cubexyzactually Kernighan and Pike criticized 4.2BSD and System VFeb 20 20:22
cubexyzin their opinion, 4.2BSD was already a departure from true UnixFeb 20 20:22
MinceRnot as much as Lendows isFeb 20 20:23
scienteslolFeb 20 20:23
scientesthe true unix: "return 0"Feb 20 20:23
scientesoh "return 0;"Feb 20 20:23
MinceRthat would be /bin/trueFeb 20 20:23
scientesno then you violate SCO's copyright claims on unixFeb 20 20:23
cubexyzI talked to Mcllroy about it... but what are you going to do?Feb 20 20:24
MinceRi thought SCO's alleged claims have been dismissed ages agoFeb 20 20:24
scientesyou have to make it a c programFeb 20 20:24
MinceReven m$ seemed to give up on handing another bucket of money to SCO to warm up the FUDFeb 20 20:24
scientessystemd doesn't really use coreutilsFeb 20 20:24
MinceRof courseFeb 20 20:24
cubexyzLinux is (quoting) "in a disheartening state of obesity"Feb 20 20:24
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MinceRsystemd doesn't really use anything, except the kernel, but they're working on getting rid of the kernel tooFeb 20 20:25
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scientes"cloud"Feb 20 20:25
scienteswhat the fuck does "cloud" mean anyways?Feb 20 20:25
scienteswhat a load of marketing gibberishFeb 20 20:25
MinceRit means "just hand your data and code over to us and everything will be fine, trust us"Feb 20 20:25
MinceRmac asay should have waited with the United Linux thing, it may yet happen in the form of LendowsFeb 20 20:26
MinceRit won't be worth using of course, but it will beFeb 20 20:26
MinceRit will exist, for a whileFeb 20 20:27
cubexyzthere's no united anything thoughFeb 20 20:27
scientessystemd is unifying linuxFeb 20 20:27
MinceRunited in the quest for the useless shinyFeb 20 20:27
MinceRunited in idiocracyFeb 20 20:27
scientesit brings the linux development model to userspaceFeb 20 20:27
scientesnow we just need subsystemd maintainersFeb 20 20:28
MinceRwell, at least we'll know if the kernel is this crap tooFeb 20 20:28
MinceRalso, a while ago torvalds said that linux didn't break userspaceFeb 20 20:29
MinceRsystemd never followed thatFeb 20 20:29
MinceRthough they did say they won't break udev for non-systemd casesFeb 20 20:29
MinceR(a lie, of course)Feb 20 20:29
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MinceRnot the same thingFeb 20 20:30
scienteslol libwrap is goneFeb 20 20:30
scientesand that mentions libwraFeb 20 20:30
MinceRpromises made by the cancerd cult aren't worth the bits they're written onFeb 20 20:31
scientespid 1 is 1.4 MiBFeb 20 20:31
scientesits hugeFeb 20 20:31
MinceR1.4 MiB of null pointer dereferences and remote holes?Feb 20 20:32
scientessz == 8 || (value < (1ULL << (sz*8)))Feb 20 20:34
scienteswhy does it have that string in the binary?Feb 20 20:34
MinceRi have no idea, maybe it's an assert or somethingFeb 20 20:34
scientesyeah but that would be compiledFeb 20 20:34
scientesperhaps thats the way assert gets compiledFeb 20 20:34
MinceRsure, but it prints an error message with the expressionFeb 20 20:35
MinceRiircFeb 20 20:35
scientesahh yesFeb 20 20:35
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msbI'm not totally up on this stuff, but it seems to me the main problem with eliminating systemd is the apps that use it.  An init system, udev, etc., can be done as it is today.  So how do apps use systemd?  And can they be satisfied with a fairly simple systemd-shim (which will not run in PID1 of course).  Is there an explanation somewhere of exactly what the current systemd-shim does?Feb 21 01:24
cubexyzone doesn't need to eliminate any appsFeb 21 01:26
cubexyzI'll just use wheezy, or slackware, or one of the BSDsFeb 21 01:26
cubexyzor something derived from wheezy, or something derived from slackwareFeb 21 01:26
msbI don't want to eliminate any apps.  I want the up-to-date apps, that use systemd, to be able to run without it.  Feb 21 01:27
cubexyzthe display manager maybeFeb 21 01:32
msbWiki says that slackware has no "public code repository".  What does that mean?  And it all depends on one guy.Feb 21 01:32
msbI want to stay with Linux because it is a great human endevor and should not be allowed to be sabotaged by RH/US/NWO.Feb 21 01:33
cubexyzit's like I tried to explain earlierFeb 21 01:34
msbSorry, maybe I missed it or didn't understand.Feb 21 01:34
cubexyzfrom my point of view I'm just going to use an earlier pre-systemd distro or I'll use slackware or OpenBSDFeb 21 01:35
cubexyzthat's what I'm doing now... and in addition to that I research historical UnixFeb 21 01:35
msbRight, but I'm asking help with my point of view.Feb 21 01:35
msbWhat is  the display manager, please?Feb 21 01:35
cubexyzkdm or gdmFeb 21 01:36
msbThat's now in systemd too?Feb 21 01:36
cubexyzummm, it might be now, I'm not sure about thatFeb 21 01:37
cubexyzthere's xdm if you want something differentFeb 21 01:37
msbBut apps run after k/gdm chooses a DE and starts X.  How do apps depend on dm?Feb 21 01:37
cubexyzstrictly speaking the applications don't need a dmFeb 21 01:38
cubexyzthe display manager just does stuff like move the focus, and move windows aroundFeb 21 01:38
cubexyzsometimes I don't even run a dm at allFeb 21 01:39
cubexyzI'm running kdm on vectorFeb 21 01:39
cubexyzbut that's kdm from kde 3.5.10Feb 21 01:40
cubexyzso no systemd Feb 21 01:40
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msbI thought it was the window manager that moves windows around, etc.Feb 21 01:41
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msbI want to find a non-systemd that will work for most people -- for humanity.  Feb 21 01:43
cubexyzok, this is dependent on a few things... and it depends on which way things are set upFeb 21 01:43
cubexyzok, really with KDE 3.5.10 there are two things: kdm and kwinFeb 21 01:44
msbSo it should be Linux, and should be up to date, and well maintained.Feb 21 01:44
cubexyzbut sometimes there's only one thing: icewmFeb 21 01:44
cubexyzso on openbsd I login via text loginFeb 21 01:45
cubexyzthere's no gui loginFeb 21 01:45
msbSo icewm comes up and asks you to select a DE (or console mode)?Feb 21 01:45
cubexyznoFeb 21 01:45
cubexyzI'm starting completely in text modeFeb 21 01:45
cubexyzI start icewm via a scriptFeb 21 01:45
cubexyzthat starts X and icewmFeb 21 01:46
cubexyzso there's no gui login :)Feb 21 01:46
cubexyzI'm already logged in via text loginFeb 21 01:46
msbOK, but if one wants to select among multiple DEs, one needs K/G/XDM, right?  Or a script to do it.  I forgot about the login, but the DMs do that too.  In any case, I don't think apps would access the Feb 21 01:47
cubexyzok, now on other distros it could be set up differentlyFeb 21 01:47
msbDM.Feb 21 01:47
cubexyzwell I could just write multiple scripts for each wmFeb 21 01:48
cubexyzif you give me a second I can check what AntiX doesFeb 21 01:49
cubexyzit's in another roomFeb 21 01:49
msbOK.  Back to the apps.  I read that goddamn systemd will necessitate changing apps to keep up with it (churning apps).  So how and why do apps access/need systemd?Feb 21 01:49
msbObviously you don't need a heater in winter.  8^)Feb 21 01:50
msbI wish that scientes POS was here to explain.Feb 21 01:51
cubexyzI think antix uses slim for the gui loginFeb 21 01:56
cubexyzthe application shouldn't care if you run sysvinit or whateverFeb 21 01:57
cubexyzthe init controls the appsFeb 21 01:58
msbSo how does systemd "churn" apps?Feb 21 01:58
cubexyzit's like dependencies like library versions, same as alwaysFeb 21 02:00
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cubexyzif systemd gets new libraries, they have to work with the existing applicationsFeb 21 02:00
msbIf devuan has an init system, udev, etc, that doesn't use systemd, can it then use the normal debian repos?Feb 21 02:00
msbfor apps?Feb 21 02:01
cubexyzthat's speculativeFeb 21 02:01
cubexyzwe don't even have devuan yetFeb 21 02:02
cubexyzwho knows :)Feb 21 02:02
msbThis is a major tragedy, from the social viewpoint.Feb 21 02:03
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msbI _am_ a conspiracy theorist, and I know one when I see one.Feb 21 02:03
cubexyzok, obviously I don't agree with you-know-whoFeb 21 02:04
msbwho?Feb 21 02:04
cubexyzthe pro-systemd folksFeb 21 02:04
msbI'm just hoping it's a tragedy with a technical fix.Feb 21 02:05
cubexyzreally this has happened before with 4.3BSD and System VFeb 21 02:06
cubexyzit's a similar schismFeb 21 02:06
msbI doubt that was done by the ruling psychopaths to control the world's population, like this is.Feb 21 02:07
cubexyzBSD init vs SysV initFeb 21 02:07
cubexyzit's not just me saying thumbs down to systemdFeb 21 02:08
msbI know.  I have lots of articles and websites about that.Feb 21 02:08
cubexyzprint this out:Feb 21 02:09
cubexyzhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installationFeb 21 02:09
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msbThe problem is that the major distros have swallowed it, from stupidity, bribes, or threats.Feb 21 02:09
cubexyzthere's lots of classic distros which I mentioned earlier, that will never use systemdFeb 21 02:09
msbI saw that, but it has very few major distros.Feb 21 02:10
cubexyzquasijarus, Research Unix, Plan 9, the BSDs, etcFeb 21 02:10
msbBut classic distros are out of date regarding security holes, new media formats, etc.Feb 21 02:10
cubexyzbut I can say the same thing about the new distros :)Feb 21 02:10
msbHow so?Feb 21 02:11
cubexyzthey don't support my hardware, and they have _new_ bugsFeb 21 02:11
msbVery few people have your old hardware.Feb 21 02:11
msbAnd new bugs will get fixed.Feb 21 02:11
cubexyzanyways, I'm not really that worried. That guy was just trying to bother peopleFeb 21 02:12
cubexyzI don't even think he seriously believes the stuff he was sayingFeb 21 02:12
msbI don't care about him.Feb 21 02:14
cubexyzfolks can run the old stuff forever if they want Feb 21 02:14
msbThe human race needs Linux, and systemd will destroy it.Feb 21 02:14
cubexyzusing FPGAs or emulators, or by fixing old hardwareFeb 21 02:14
cubexyzI spent over 10 years updating FC1Feb 21 02:15
msbThe old stuff doesn't handle new media formats, Android, and other stuff to be invented.Feb 21 02:15
msbThe public doesn't use FPGAs and emulators are slow.Feb 21 02:15
msbI am looking for a solution for everybody, not just you.Feb 21 02:15
cubexyzmost people don't even understand the OS that's on their computerFeb 21 02:17
cubexyzFPGAs are good... you could make your own CPU :)Feb 21 02:18
msbMost people don[t even know they are using an OS.Feb 21 02:18
msbI'm fine with an AMD 8-core -- much faster.Feb 21 02:18
cubexyzpersonally I think Linux is too bloated and complicatedFeb 21 02:19
cubexyzAntiX did a decent job pruning it downFeb 21 02:19
cubexyzOpenBSD is relatively leanFeb 21 02:20
msbDoesn;t matter.  Any PC today has GBs of RAM.Feb 21 02:21
cubexyzI don't use bluetooth, or sunrpc or nfs etcFeb 21 02:21
cubexyzit sure does matter if you want to try to understand itFeb 21 02:22
cubexyzlook at MIT's courseware for OS designFeb 21 02:22
cubexyzbut everybody's differentFeb 21 02:23
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cubexyzthat guy just parrots the same crap over and overFeb 21 02:25
cubexyz"who cares" Feb 21 02:25
cubexyzI careFeb 21 02:25
cubexyzemulated PDP-11 is quite fastFeb 21 02:29
cubexyzway faster than the fastest PDP-11 ever madeFeb 21 02:29
cubexyzinit is just a way to get things started, run some gettys, turn things off and onFeb 21 02:30
msbHow fast compared to an AMD FX-8350?Feb 21 02:31
cubexyzit's just a hosted OS... so it's speed depends on how fast the host isFeb 21 02:39
cubexyzin my case a P3 is fast enough to run any PDP-11 OS quite wellFeb 21 02:39
cubexyzif I put it on a FX-8350 it would be a lot faster I'm sureFeb 21 02:40
msbI'm talking about speed for playing x265s, transcoding, and video editing.Feb 21 02:40
msbnot running the OS.Feb 21 02:41
msbAgain, I am looking for a solution for everyone, not just techies.Feb 21 02:42
cubexyzI don't think everyone does those things eitherFeb 21 02:42
msbEveryone now views x265s.Feb 21 02:42
msbAnd lots of people edit videos.Feb 21 02:42
msbYou seem to be recommending that people get an FPGA and run PDP11 on it, just so they can run an old Unix that will not handle modern media formats, etc.  Does not make sense to me.Feb 21 02:44
cubexyzI only mentioned FPGAs to point out that when old hardware dies, people can still run on the old Unix on the FPGAFeb 21 02:46
cubexyzif they want to do thatFeb 21 02:46
cubexyzit's perfectly valid for businesses that need to replace legacy hardwareFeb 21 02:47
cubexyzjoe blow isn't going to listen to me anywaysFeb 21 02:48
cubexyzI'm sure if I wanted to I buy some appropriate computer hardware to edit videosFeb 21 02:49
cubexyzI wouldn't use a PDP-11 for that obviouslyFeb 21 02:49
msbI'm talking about average people.  They want a fast general purpose desktop or laptop for doing everything.Feb 21 02:50
msbUp to date, easy to use, not microshit.Feb 21 02:51
cubexyzmicroshit?Feb 21 02:51
msbMicrofuckshitpissFeb 21 02:51
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5635129Feb 21 03:35
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schestowitz"Most of their Hard drive storage operation was sold off to Hitachi many years ago. And c"onsider Samsung, Seagate and the rest are now Asia centric.Feb 21 03:36
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schestowitz"Stuff like this is why I think they suicided Ilya Zhitomirskiy."Feb 21 03:36
schestowitzI read somewhere that it was suicide but could not confirmFeb 21 03:37
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schestowitz"There's nothing potent about Microsoft's "cloud". Bing, Skype, Outlook are miserable failures like everything else Microsoft touches. Idiot news sources like Fobes said the same kinds of silly things when Microsoft subjugated Yahoo, but it went no where. Microsoft's corruption of Cyanogenmod is one or two orders of magnitude less important than that."Feb 21 03:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How To Create QR Codes In Ubuntu/Linux MintFeb 21 03:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Using play/pause buttons in Chrome with GNOME 3Feb 21 03:53
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Download ClearOS Community 6.6.0 With YouTubeFeb 21 04:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Released – Detailed ReviewFeb 21 04:14
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Official Ubuntu Phone Porting Guide PublishedFeb 21 04:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why All Linux (Security) Bugs Aren't Shallow Feb 21 04:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     It Could Be A While Before Seeing The Tamil GPUFeb 21 04:52
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Intel Quark SoC x86 Platform Support For LinuxFeb 21 07:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569114703294803970Feb 21 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz #LibreOffice user here. Great news! Any word on #Kompozer? It's still the best OS web design tool I know.Feb 21 07:44
schestowitzI have not heard about it for yearsFeb 21 07:44
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569116109099679744Feb 21 07:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Development has stalled since 2007. I wonder if the issue is funding?Feb 21 07:49
schestowitzprobably a contributing factorFeb 21 07:49
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569117059642212352Feb 21 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz Have they considered crowdfunding? I would certainly help to publicise it by sharing on my social media accounts and blog.Feb 21 07:55
schestowitzWorth working towards if you can get in touch with the devs (probably moved on in their lives)Feb 21 07:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118572515106817Feb 21 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz That's the problem; web design ends up being restricted to pretentious Adobe Creative Suite users who don't know what "code"...Feb 21 08:00
schestowitzWhy not use CMS with integrated WYSIWYG?Feb 21 08:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569118773397090305Feb 21 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz ...means. If it's not W3C compliant you lose me at "Hello."Feb 21 08:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569119752246988800Feb 21 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz I do. And it's better and easier. However, if you don't understand how it actually works you can't deliver the results you wantFeb 21 08:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/569120051590250497Feb 21 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @schestowitz which is why I always advocate learning to build from scratch. You can take shortcuts later when you understand what you cut.Feb 21 08:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As DefaultFeb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines                 In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet Feb 21 08:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blogFeb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10Feb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/GmB2UB3JpQ (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 21 08:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Bind Exploit Closed in Ubuntu 14.10 - SoftpediaFeb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on SteamFeb 21 08:29
TweetTuxMachines                 for Linux http://t.co/BlXHvVM7f7Feb 21 08:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Bleed 2D Platformer Is Now Available on Steam for Linux - SoftpediaFeb 21 08:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become theFeb 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines                 coolest Android phone ever?Feb 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xrgrvcmkz0 (www.networkworld.com)Feb 21 08:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Is the Samsung Galaxy S6 about to become the coolest Android phone ever? | Network WorldFeb 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra SecureFeb 21 08:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Messaging AppFeb 21 08:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu Touch Could Get Tox, a P2P Ultra Secure Messaging App - SoftpediaFeb 21 08:35
MinceRgeekingsFeb 21 08:39
MinceRthe zero-copy scientes mentioned was yet another poor excuse: "Lennart said that it works better to simply copy anything that is less than about 512KB" http://lwn.net/Articles/580194/Feb 21 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | The unveiling of kdbus [LWN.net]Feb 21 09:03
XRevan86schestowitz: rss2snFeb 21 09:11
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now HasFeb 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Better ODT Format SupportFeb 21 09:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Calibre eBook Converter and Viewer Now Has Better ODT Format Support - SoftpediaFeb 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On LinuxFeb 21 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/d7oMel58D3 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 21 09:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Bleed, A Bullet Hell Platformer Now On Linux | GamingOnLinuxFeb 21 09:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Many new LTS releases of gnu linuxFeb 21 09:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xUM41MpuIG (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 09:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/OJMjOSWO6i (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Edubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Has Been Officially Released - SoftpediaFeb 21 09:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/S5ihB7PPrH (www.kubuntu.org)Feb 21 09:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Officially Released, Users Can No Longer Upgrade to Plasma 5 - SoftpediaFeb 21 09:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kubuntu.org | Kubuntu 14.04 LTS Update Out | KubuntuFeb 21 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Arrives with Linux Kernel 3.16 - SoftpediaFeb 21 09:25
schestowitzwow. sites of gun nuts http://www.ammoland.com/2015/02/america-in-distress-have-we-reached-the-tipping-point/#axzz3SOHBFUcrFeb 21 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ammoland.com | America In Distress - Have We Reached The Tipping Point? [ http://ur1.ca/jrtmm ]Feb 21 09:34
MinceRmore like republican wingnutsFeb 21 09:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: UpdateFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Coming http://t.co/acLhZSon3tFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.latinospost.com) http://t.co/FJNFeRE7wLFeb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latinospost.com | Android L 5.1 Release Date & Download: Update Coming to Motorola Devices After Nexus & HTC? : Tech : Latinos PostFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.ibtimes.co.uk)Feb 21 09:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Android 5.1 Lollipop release date confirmed for HTC One M7 GPE, Nexus devices to follow soonFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Wine 1.7.37 Adds UTF-7 Encoding, InterfaceFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Change Notifications http://t.co/NAXVi9TuofFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/3Gl10yGKiS (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Wine 1.7.37 Adds UTF-7 Encoding, Interface Change Notifications - PhoronixFeb 21 09:36
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/4ratRZn0Sy (www.gamingonlinux.com)Feb 21 09:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Wine 1.7.37 Adds Multi-Channel Audio Support, Fixes 71 Bugs - SoftpediaFeb 21 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The Wine Development Release 1.7.37 Is Now Available | GamingOnLinuxFeb 21 09:36
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636970Feb 21 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet http://www.webupd8.org/2015/02/locally-integrated-menus-lim-set-as.html #ubuntu #linuxFeb 21 09:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.webupd8.org | Locally Integrated Menus (LIM) Set As Default In Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog [ http://ur1.ca/jrtnr ]Feb 21 09:38
schestowitz"Good!"Feb 21 09:38
schestowitz"As long as global can be configured :)"Feb 21 09:38
schestowitz"I don't find this feature particularly convenient. Probably the idea of some Apple fanboy inside Canonical. :P But yes it is good to have options."Feb 21 09:38
schestowitzOne can install KDE on top as Ubuntu, as I often do..Feb 21 09:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636961Feb 21 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Lendows or Lennux can be avoided http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page#Operating_systems_without_systemd_in_the_default_installationFeb 21 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> without-systemd.org | Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jmy5s ]Feb 21 09:39
schestowitz"What distro are you using?"Feb 21 09:39
schestowitzDebian and KubuntuFeb 21 09:39
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636755Feb 21 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ClipperChip/status/568912218412216321Feb 21 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ClipperChip: .@ggreenwald EU: “We demand answers!” US: “The answers you seek are in another castle.” – EU: "Oh, okay." http://t.co/Ut3PMO4fb1Feb 21 09:39
schestowitz"These are not the answers you're looking for"Feb 21 09:39
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msbschestowitz: I think the non-systemd solution has to be: 1. a major distro, or one that uses the repos of one, so it has lots of support 2. not source code or run by one person (slackware funtoo gentoo) 3. is up to date and continually modernized, so it supports new games, media formats, etc. 4. is Linux, not *bsd, because Linux is vital for humanity.Feb 21 10:39
msbThere are only 15 people in the PCLinuxOS IRC support channel, compared to 288 in the Suse channel.Feb 21 10:59
MinceRmaybe suse needs that much more supportFeb 21 11:00
msbNo.  PCLOS is created by one person.Feb 21 11:00
XRevan86MinceR: No, PCLinuxOS is really unpopular.Feb 21 11:00
msbXRevan86: Do you know why?Feb 21 11:01
XRevan86msb: Not really.Feb 21 11:01
XRevan86msb: I did look at it but quickly dropped it since repos are very small.Feb 21 11:01
msbSo there is no distro suitable for the general public in that without-systemd.org list.Feb 21 11:02
XRevan86"Trisquel GNU/Linux" сan be removed from that list, by the wayFeb 21 11:03
msbSuse was very well designed before it adopted systemd.  It has lots of support.Feb 21 11:03
XRevan86since systemd will be in Trisquel 8.0 (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS)Feb 21 11:04
msbDamn!Feb 21 11:04
msbI guess we have to pray for Devuan.Feb 21 11:04
XRevan86Point Linux is Debian-based.Feb 21 11:04
XRevan86Pardus is Debian-based and also sucks a lotFeb 21 11:05
XRevan86msb: Pisi Linux is nice but repos are small, too :)Feb 21 11:05
XRevan86msb: They also did write there own init system.Feb 21 11:06
msbI figure if I haven't heard of it it's too small to be reliable.Feb 21 11:06
XRevan86msb: Have you heard about pardus?Feb 21 11:06
MinceRstill more reliable than LendowsFeb 21 11:06
XRevan86msb: before it became a useless Debian derivateFeb 21 11:07
msbNo.  Feb 21 11:07
XRevan86Pisi Linux is a fork of PardusFeb 21 11:07
msbNone of these obscure distros is going to have much support, or can be counted on to be maintained for years.Feb 21 11:08
msbAnd if one run by one person becomes very popular, he'll probably be killed in a hunting accident by 87 stray bullets and a hand-grenade.Feb 21 11:09
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msbI'm not looking for one for myself so much, but for the general public, so they can use it before the systemd distros turn to shit.Feb 21 11:12
msbAlternate mode of death for people who oppose the fascist system: suicide by shooting oneself in the head twice.Feb 21 11:14
msbGoddess protect the Devuan people!Feb 21 11:16
msbVectorLinux has 13 people in its IRC.Feb 21 11:32
MinceRsalix has 16Feb 21 11:33
__martin__holy shietFeb 21 11:33
__martin__had no clue pentagon was this farFeb 21 11:33
__martin__"The research is based on extracting narratives from millions of American, Iranian and Chinese weblogs, and subjecting them to automated discourse analysis to compare them quantitatively across the three languages. The investigators then follow up using behavioral experiments with readers/listeners from different cultures to gauge their reaction different narratives “where each story makes an appeFeb 21 11:33
__martin__al to a sacred value to explain or justify a morally-questionable behavior of the author.” Finally, the scientists apply neurobiological fMRI scanning to correlate the reactions and personal characteristics of subjects with their brain responses."Feb 21 11:33
msbWow, talk about "morally questionable"!Feb 21 11:35
msbSo, based on that analysis, they automatically brew up a virus that kills the part of the person's brain that opposes the rulers.Feb 21 11:36
msbAnd deliver it to him by a drone.Feb 21 11:36
msbOf course if they're using fMRI they already have him.Feb 21 11:37
__martin__at least the main villain in the marvel's latest sci-fi blockbuster "jupiter ascending" copies the looks of young bill gates excellently so people can count one plus one and join the partial truths about him lolFeb 21 11:46
__martin__[directors = trangender matrix creators]Feb 21 11:47
__martin__trans*Feb 21 11:47
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schestowitzXRevan86: fork?Feb 21 12:46
schestowitzI think successor?Feb 21 12:46
schestowitzOr renameFeb 21 12:46
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XRevan86schestowitz: I can really say "successor" since something is still living with a name Pardus Feb 21 12:50
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5637005Feb 21 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #avg on 'malware' that "requires an Android device to be “rooted”" and for use to install it http://www.pcworld.com/article/2886932/android-malware-fakes-phone-shutdown-to-steal-data.htmlFeb 21 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | Android malware fakes phone shutdown to steal your data | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jruta ]Feb 21 12:51
schestowitz"A scare piece against rooting your phone and/or using app stores like F-Droid?"Feb 21 12:52
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__martin__yep, like garret's secure boot apologismFeb 21 12:52
MinceRmore like a piece of FUD against android, imoFeb 21 12:52
MinceRit's from IDG, after allFeb 21 12:52
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5629974Feb 21 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/568579388817735680Feb 21 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ggreenwald: There is nobody on earth who has exploited 9/11 more frequently, shamelessly and self-servingly than Rudy Giuliani http://t.co/SAnRpC2tVcFeb 21 12:52
schestowitz"lol First person to say "9/11" nine-hundred and eleven times in one 10 min speech gets to legally change his name 9/11..."Feb 21 12:52
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/roppert/status/569192299680428033Feb 21 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@roppert: @schestowitz @teirdes Never trust big corporations, no matter how or what they do to convince us. Why? Cause greed is only common motivator.Feb 21 12:53
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Riz_myth/status/569193154416545792Feb 21 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Riz_myth: Dzekoooooooo is Backkkkk 3-0 & it's only 21mins of the game played #MCINEW | #ManCityNewcastleFeb 21 13:08
MinceRhttp://imgur.com/gallery/kBTXDYeFeb 21 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | Germany's heart of gold - ImgurFeb 21 13:30
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Creating a Community: Getting StartedFeb 21 14:28
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/hzMytQB310 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 14:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Creating a Community: Getting Started | Tux MachinesFeb 21 14:28
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New AMD Processors Supported By CorebootFeb 21 15:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New AMD Processors Supported By Coreboot | Tux MachinesFeb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps areFeb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines                 almost here http://t.co/LzVrOrKDi0Feb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 15:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fully sandboxed, cross-distro Linux apps are almost here | Tux MachinesFeb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/KW5K9dSCbaFeb 21 15:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 15:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesFeb 21 15:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5636987Feb 21 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Promotion of the 'cloud' religion has led people to not caring about #security or blindly trusting 'cloud' because "everyone's doin' it!"Feb 21 16:42
schestowitz"and Big Data, and the Internet of Things. All privacy disasters."Feb 21 16:42
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux DistributionFeb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jjUzzWADEZ (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 17:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux Distribution | Tux MachinesFeb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts withFeb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Geocodable Addresses http://t.co/4uLQB9ZYVLFeb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 17:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts with Geocodable Addresses | Tux MachinesFeb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22Feb 21 17:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Workstation Pushed This WeekFeb 21 17:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Exciting GNOME Changes For Fedora 22 Workstation Pushed This Week | Tux MachinesFeb 21 17:43
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_FawkesFeb 21 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Guy Fawkes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFeb 21 17:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat announces the availability ofFeb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globallyFeb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7WPNcfZW1R (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 18:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat announces the availability of Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globally | Tux MachinesFeb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released withFeb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Better Ubuntu Unity SupportFeb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/mvzHuQSFPl (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 18:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released with Better Ubuntu Unity Support | Tux MachinesFeb 21 18:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mir Now Depends Upon C++14Feb 21 18:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mir Now Depends Upon C++14 | Tux MachinesFeb 21 18:25
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pilgmEahPUkFeb 21 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Love Police: Riding God's Drunken Ferrari - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwvg ]Feb 21 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support forFeb 21 18:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Several RISC Microprocessor ArchitecturesFeb 21 18:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support for Several RISC Microprocessor Architectures | Tux MachinesFeb 21 18:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HDFeb 21 18:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Graphics http://t.co/N7OF5A09rMFeb 21 18:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HD Graphics | Tux MachinesFeb 21 18:38
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc8hGD8ftFAFeb 21 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit 3 "Will you follow me, one last time?" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwya ]Feb 21 18:42
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKQk06dqmzUFeb 21 18:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit 3 Azog's and his armie and Bolg. - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwym ]Feb 21 18:44
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW-IgJHM3cYFeb 21 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | The Hobbit - Azog's army arrives - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jrwyz ]Feb 21 18:45
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t57AVYNcyBQFeb 21 18:47
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/bf604eZvcQFeb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrxgyFeb 21 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesFeb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     [Video] Samsung Launch 2015 Tizen Smart TV inFeb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Africa http://t.co/oKlptfYvPUFeb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrxh0Feb 21 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | [Video] Samsung Launch 2015 Tizen Smart TV in Africa | Tux MachinesFeb 21 20:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/E1JYNnDH4HFeb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrxhyFeb 21 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesFeb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/1nRQa8mPQAFeb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 20:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/4iPN5BYZxoFeb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 20:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesFeb 21 20:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 21/2/2015: GNOME 3.15.90, Google WinsFeb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Lawsuit http://t.co/pnspwGgKrzFeb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrxjxFeb 21 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/2/2015: GNOME 3.15.90, Google Wins Android Lawsuit | TechrightsFeb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME 3.15.90 http://t.co/E4L5P03GHrFeb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (permalink.gmane.org) "first beta release ofFeb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 the 3.15 development"Feb 21 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-permalink.gmane.org | GNOME 3.15.90Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrxk0Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     On Break http://t.co/M4k883iMU9Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Feb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrxk1Feb 21 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | On Break | Tux MachinesFeb 21 20:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     PCLinuxOS, A User friendly Linux Distribution Feb 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/stIcj5LnR6 (www.linuxandubuntu.com)Feb 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 "Let's take a look at PCLinuxOS, a distro thatFeb 21 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | PCLinuxOS, A User Friendly Linux Distribution - LinuxUbuntu Apps Reviews | Tutorials & HowTos | NewsFeb 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines                 is user friendly."Feb 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrxkhFeb 21 20:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HDFeb 21 20:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Graphics http://t.co/i98OFiba7kFeb 21 20:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mageia 5 Graphics Woes With Intel Broadwell HD Graphics - PhoronixFeb 21 20:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrxkiFeb 21 20:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mir Now Depends Upon C++14Feb 21 20:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/qoda3CvfNP (www.phoronix.com)Feb 21 20:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Mir Now Depends Upon C++14 - PhoronixFeb 21 20:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support forFeb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Several RISC Microprocessor ArchitecturesFeb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kAEmyYEyMA (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrxlaFeb 21 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.2.67 LTS Improves Support for Several RISC Microprocessor Architectures - SoftpediaFeb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released withFeb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Better Ubuntu Unity SupportFeb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jtMFa0MeQi (news.softpedia.com)Feb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jrxlbFeb 21 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Kadu 2.0 Instant Messenger Client Released with Better Ubuntu Unity Support - SoftpediaFeb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat announces the availability ofFeb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globallyFeb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/qHBYocr0fK (www.telecomtiger.com)Feb 21 20:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telecomtiger.com | Red Hat announces the availability of Enterprise Linux OpenStack Platform 6 globallyFeb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Maps App Can Now Display Contacts withFeb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                 Geocodable AddressesFeb 21 20:43
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/vYNT8BYTMH (linux.softpedia.com)Feb 21 20:43
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Today in Techrights http://t.co/RifMtyzkDPFeb 21 21:00
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