IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: January 25th, 2015-January 31th, 2015

MinceR	gn	Jan 25 00:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ninja Blocks prepares to begin shipping,	Jan 25 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	announces major Ubuntu IoT deal	Jan 25 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/bqPJdyLxoH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 01:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ninja Blocks prepares to begin shipping, announces major Ubuntu IoT deal \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 24/1/2015: Zenwalk Linux Reviewed,	Jan 25 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	Netrunner 14.1 Released http://t.co/5MozWrcHqQ	Jan 25 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 25 01:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 24/1/2015: Zenwalk Linux Reviewed, Netrunner 14.1 Released \| Techrights		Jan 25 01:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/AB4sexAngU	Jan 25 01:42
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 01:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 01:42
gde33	http://www.charitynavigator.org/	Jan 25 02:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.charitynavigator.org \| Charity Navigator - America's Largest Charity Evaluator \| Home		Jan 25 02:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Replace Windows 7 With Linux Mint Without	Jan 25 02:23
TweetTuxMachines	Overwriting Other Partitions	Jan 25 02:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/cBOR4dx23c (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 02:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jj5la	Jan 25 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Replace Windows 7 With Linux Mint Without Overwriting Other Partitions \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 02:23
*TweetTuxMachines @REALMattRichie retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Replace Windows 7 With Linux Mint Without Overwriting...'		Jan 25 02:23
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XFaCE	gde33: http://torrentfreak.com/zombie-pirate-bay-tracker-fuels-chinese-ddos-attacks-150124/	Jan 25 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com \| Zombie Pirate Bay Tracker Fuels Chinese DDoS Attacks \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/jj76b ]		Jan 25 06:05
XFaCE	here's a clusterfuck	Jan 25 06:05
XFaCE	"The suspicion that Chinese efforts to censor the Internet have something to do with the problems seems plausible. Querying Chinese DNS servers returns many seemingly random IP-addresses that change all the time. "	Jan 25 06:06
gde33	XFaCE: hahaha	Jan 25 06:06
XFaCE	yep	Jan 25 06:06
XFaCE	beautiful	Jan 25 06:06
XFaCE	gde33: and let's not forget during the SOPA shit	Jan 25 06:07
XFaCE	"The MPAA's Michael O'Leary showed support for regimes that censor the internet, by saying that "the internet isn't broken" in places like China and Iran... He really should spend some time there speaking to those who have been censored. "	Jan 25 06:07
XFaCE	gde33: slowclap...clap..clap...clap	Jan 25 06:08
gde33	I one time suggested we add the mpaa website as the default tracker to all torrents so that they can keep track of what we are doing	Jan 25 06:08
gde33	as a random act of kindness	Jan 25 06:08
XFaCE	gde33: plus, they'll get more traffic	Jan 25 06:08
gde33	yeah	Jan 25 06:09
XFaCE	I bet they'd like that	Jan 25 06:09
gde33	I wonder howmany gigahits per second that would do	Jan 25 06:09
gde33	it is really strange how lone persons can oppose the whole world like this	Jan 25 06:10
gde33	on the other end of the spectrum we see whole races and religions profiled by the acts of single indeviduals	Jan 25 06:12
XFaCE	well to be fair, I profile the MPAA based on Michael here	Jan 25 06:13
XFaCE	I think it's pretty typical	Jan 25 06:13
gde33	he quit the job anyway :D	Jan 25 06:15
gde33	“Having accomplished most of my goals at the MPAA, I am excited to move on to new career challenges,"	Jan 25 06:16
XFaCE	gde33: he ain't not one but 99 doughnuts!	Jan 25 06:18
XFaCE	*ate	Jan 25 06:18
gde33	interesting how they earn millions by forcing people to do things for them	Jan 25 06:19
XFaCE	gde33: Also, he deposited fecal matter in their waste facilities and verbal diarhea in the press statements	Jan 25 06:19
gde33	one does not simply pull dns records	Jan 25 06:22
XFaCE	yep, the MPAA vision for the internet - like China, random sporatic DDOSing	Jan 25 06:22
XFaCE	gde33: I suppose it'd be more equitable - before you could have been DDOSed for a reason, a cause, or something	Jan 25 06:23
XFaCE	now everyone can be ddosed for no reason whatsoever!	Jan 25 06:24
XFaCE	it's up to the great firewall - knows all DNS, sees all DNS	Jan 25 06:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/559153608894054401	Jan 25 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: #Librem15, first free s/w GNU/Linux laptop (- some Intel blobs), makes funding goal cc @schestowitz http://t.co/oabKKnahEP via @ZDNet @sjvn		Jan 25 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com \| Librem 15, the first free software GNU/Linux laptop, makes funding goal \| ZDNet		Jan 25 06:25
XFaCE	schestowitz: intel blobs?	Jan 25 06:25
schestowitz	yes	Jan 25 06:26
XFaCE	in which component?	Jan 25 06:26
schestowitz	nor sure...	Jan 25 06:30
schestowitz	*not	Jan 25 06:31
cubexyz	a free laptop would be something like a thinkpad X60 with coreboot	Jan 25 07:26
cubexyz	or lemote	Jan 25 07:26
cubexyz	laptops are a problem actually	Jan 25 07:30
cubexyz	I haven't really seen one with interchangeable parts	Jan 25 07:31
cubexyz	unless you want an Osborne, which was a luggable not a laptop	Jan 25 07:32
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cubexyz	hold on a sec, looks like the librem 15 does use coreboot	Jan 25 07:37
cubexyz	so it is a step forward	Jan 25 07:38
cubexyz	Librem 15 needs the Intel FSP, otherwise known as the "Intel Memory Reference Code"	Jan 25 07:40
cubexyz	so the FSP would have to be analyzed to create source code for the controller and memory initialization process	Jan 25 07:42
cubexyz	http://puri.sm/posts/bios-freedom-status/	Jan 25 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm \| BIOS Freedom Status \| Purism [ http://ur1.ca/ji4m3 ]		Jan 25 07:43
cubexyz	there are "more free" laptops out there, but it looks like the FSF is working on it, which is good	Jan 25 07:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Broadwell HD Graphics 5500: Windows 8.1	Jan 25 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	vs. Linux http://t.co/4UzA17svIf	Jan 25 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 08:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jj85m	Jan 25 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Intel Broadwell HD Graphics 5500: Windows 8.1 vs. Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 08:09
*TweetTuxMachines @SerbianLinuks retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Netrunner 14.1 – Main Edition (Frontier) http://t.co/p75lU8V91F'		Jan 25 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Netrunner 14.1 – Main Edition (Frontier) \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 08:09
arossdotme	cubexyz: interchangeable cpu,ram,graphics in a user friendly module : http://rhombus-tech.net	Jan 25 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rhombus-tech.net \| Rhombus-Tech		Jan 25 10:43
arossdotme	and for example the wifi in the tablet is a off the shelf module laptop module so it's upgradable. i forgot the name of the standard	Jan 25 10:44
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cubexyz	thanks arossdotme	Jan 25 11:10
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 25 11:14
DaemonFC	2 hrs ·	Jan 25 11:14
DaemonFC	The Mac to Windows malware ratio has been moving decidedly in favor of using Windows. Since XP, Microsoft has gotten the number of infected PCs per 100,000 down by 2/3rds while Mac malware has exploded.	Jan 25 11:14
DaemonFC	Microsoft has been taking security more seriously these days while Apple still (1) doesn't care at all, (2) denies that there is a problem with Mac OS even as it continues to turn into a playground for malware by instructing their support representatives to play dumb and not help people disinfect their Mac, and (3) convinces people who have been the victim of Mac malware to keep quiet about it.	Jan 25 11:14
DaemonFC	Item 3 is easy because people naturally don't want to admit to having made a mistake, like spending 2-3 times as much on a Mac and then getting fucked over in the end anyway, so like iPhone users, they insist it always works, even though it doesn't.	Jan 25 11:14
DaemonFC	http://www.zdnet.com/pictures/five-antivirus-scanners-for-mac/	Jan 25 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Five antivirus scanners for Mac \| ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jj9m2 ]		Jan 25 11:14
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 25 12:09
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Jan 25 12:09
DaemonFC	Some iPhone customers have noticed that the four major carriers are charging them an "upgrade fee" to get the new iPhone 6 even if their contract is up. The "upgrade fee" is in addition to the up front cost of the iPhone.	Jan 25 12:09
DaemonFC	Why can carriers do that? They realize that they're mostly dealing with idiots. Idiots with deep pockets. In other words, "Never give a sucker an even break.".	Jan 25 12:09
DaemonFC	http://consumerist.com/2014/09/12/the-only-way-to-avoid-paying-a-fee-for-iphone-upgrade-is-to-pay-full-price/	Jan 25 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-consumerist.com \| The Only Way To Avoid Paying A Fee For iPhone Upgrade Is To Pay Full Price – Consumerist [ http://ur1.ca/jja2v ]		Jan 25 12:09
-NickServ-schestowitz!~schestowi@host86-136-103-89.range86-136.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz)		Jan 25 12:16
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schestowitz	DaemonFC: good point	Jan 25 12:33
DaemonFC	I thought it was a nice touch. "$40 upgrade fee" just for iPhones. Hahahaaa!	Jan 25 12:34
DaemonFC	These carriers are fucking parasites. Like, they're already selling you a $600-700 phone every couple of years, and that's on top of the monthly bill that's at least $90. The "phone insurance" policy is mostly profit for them too.	Jan 25 12:36
DaemonFC	You don't even get a new phone if something happens to yours.	Jan 25 12:36
DaemonFC	What they do is they take a refurbished phone (maybe not even done by the original manufacturer which means higher chance that it wasn't properly refurbished), or a used one that someone else traded in, and hand it to you.	Jan 25 12:37
DaemonFC	AT&T offers refurbished phones from the get-go now. You save a whopping $40 off of a $600 phone and take your chances that it won't still be defective when you get it.	Jan 25 12:38
DaemonFC	I think that the days where good phones start at around $500-600 are numbered.	Jan 25 12:38
DaemonFC	Too many good phones are starting to surface that are less than $200.	Jan 25 12:39
schestowitz	Android has free upgrades	Jan 25 12:42
DaemonFC	Well, the software, sure.	Jan 25 12:42
DaemonFC	I meant upgrading the hardware.	Jan 25 12:42
DaemonFC	The whole software upgrade thing depends mostly on which phone you buy.	Jan 25 12:43
DaemonFC	Stick to Nexus, Motorola, Samsung, or LG imo.	Jan 25 12:43
DaemonFC	My LG G2 has been great.	Jan 25 12:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Netrunner 14.1 – Main Edition (Frontier) \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 12:48
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schestowitz	hi dyfet	Jan 25 12:53
dyfet	hi!	Jan 25 12:54
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559340976784027649 https://twitter.com/HistoricaITweet/status/559330869077213184 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559338541797617666 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559335846428807168	Jan 25 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: ‘It’s like a ghost town’: lights go out as foreign owners desert #London homes http://t.co/Xgg97nQZUP http://t.co/cq7QKr2YF0		Jan 25 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| ‘It’s like a ghost town’: lights go out as foreign owners desert London homes \| UK news \| The Guardian		Jan 25 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| London needs homes, not towers of ‘safe-deposit boxes’ \| Peter Wynne Rees \| Comment is free \| The Guardian		Jan 25 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HistoricaITweet: V.E. Day, 8th of May, 1945, London. By Wolfgang Suschitzky http://t.co/wcbbQ5K01t		Jan 25 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HistoryPixs: V.E. Day, 8th of May, 1945, London. By Wolfgang Suschitzky http://t.co/d7e1QrHpko		Jan 25 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "GOP presidential hopeful...keynote...group that has blamed gay people for causing the Holocaust" http://t.co/lCd0YGUkFy #gop		Jan 25 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mediamatters.org \| The Jindal-Hate Group Relationship You Won't Hear About This Weekend \| Blog \| Media Matters for America		Jan 25 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #canada Planned Military Splurge Comes At The Expense Of Health Care⁰ http://t.co/TNJy1zcKeq turning from #uk standards to #us standards		Jan 25 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.projectcensored.org \| Harper's Planned Military Splurge Comes At The Expense Of Health Care		Jan 25 13:29
– Ethics Alerts
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559331811332206592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559330786588237825 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559330675338518528	Jan 25 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another misleading headline that neglects to say #chromebooks already come with #linux http://t.co/3BkhuPDlVG they mean "a distro"		Jan 25 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com \| Google makes it easier to run Linux on a Chromebook via a USB drive…sort of… – Jim Lynch		Jan 25 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Which Android device works with Now TV? http://t.co/WDILV5Nonh #android #linux		Jan 25 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Which Android device works with Now TV? - Telegraph		Jan 25 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Rcpp 0.11.4 http://t.co/sOeJAuBvGw 0.11.4 "Rcpp has become the most popular way of enhancing #GNU R with C++ code."		Jan 25 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dirk.eddelbuettel.com \| Thinking inside the box		Jan 25 13:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559323511689592832 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559323142204968960	Jan 25 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Truth is so obscure https://t.co/wIVVqn3h4r		Jan 25 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nypd http://t.co/Ao7YMYbqSI #police		Jan 25 13:31
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5481656	Jan 25 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OmnBWelO4G8/VMTsOUJH7SI/AAAAAAAACC4/69ePf8xAfoA/w1365-h827-no/gnu-pc-mac.png) [hier gefunden](https://plus.google.com/u/0/101895113808276700521/posts/18RU5HFjPLr?pid=6108266725290536226&oid=101895113808276700521) #linux #science #mac #pc #advertising #gnulinux #opensource #openmind		Jan 25 16:48
schestowitz	"you did? how come you put #mono in there? :D"	Jan 25 16:48
schestowitz	"oh, it's the ass, now I understand"	Jan 25 16:48
schestowitz	Yes, back when we fought (successfully) to remove mono from distros (by default)	Jan 25 16:49
MinceR	https://www.eff.org//deeplinks/2015/01/britons-you-have-72-hours-stop-snoopers-charter	Jan 25 17:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org \| Britons: You Have 72 Hours to Stop The Snooper's Charter \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jjci8 ]		Jan 25 17:07
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Vandahmier/status/559406766207672320	Jan 25 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vandahmier: RT @schestowitz We're Destroying the Planet in Ways That Are Even Worse Than #GlobalWarming http://t.co/yyJhqjCG4b http://t.co/Xi9vN2FvEA		Jan 25 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: We're Destroying the Planet in Ways That Are Even Worse Than #GlobalWarming http://t.co/XzEou0lrVi		Jan 25 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vandahmier: RT @schestowitz We're Destroying the Planet in Ways That Are Even Worse Than #GlobalWarming http://t.co/yyJhqjCG4b http://t.co/Xi9vN2FvEA		Jan 25 17:50
MinceR	#GlobalHumanInfestation	Jan 25 17:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/RutaAkula/status/559416987567546368 https://twitter.com/KomalPorwal/status/559417085261262849	Jan 25 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RutaAkula: @schestowitz Mother of IS-held Japanese hostage calls for release of son ----> [http://t.co/Z7GQoNlZXm]		Jan 25 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsroompost.com \| Mother of IS-held Japanese hostage calls for release of son - NewsroomPost		Jan 25 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KomalPorwal: @schestowitz Oil surges after Saudi King’s death [http://t.co/JKnaPN6Dmp]		Jan 25 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsroompost.com \| Oil surges after Saudi King's death - NewsroomPost		Jan 25 18:31
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559387213658873856 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559389331417497601 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559394101662334976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559394912693944320 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559395626870665217 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559395930643107841	Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Linux has this handled" https://t.co/EGuAQHlRd8		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: De-hyping 'the Cloud' https://t.co/2DxtXFGGyJ		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Intel #Broadwell HD #Graphics 5500: #Windows 8.1 vs. #Linux http://t.co/Tpm5kXzQTK		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com \| Intel Broadwell HD Graphics 5500: Windows 8.1 vs. Linux Review - Phoronix		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Even When Sharing Top Billing with Edward Snowden, the #NSA Is Unrepentant https://t.co/Yv7qqO1i7J DeLong's remarks		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org \| Even When Sharing Top Billing with Edward Snowden, the NSA Is Unrepentant - The Intercept		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Who Can Control N.S.A. Surveillance? http://t.co/mYUBUJ116Z #nsa #surveillance		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newyorker.com \| Who Can Control N.S.A. Surveillance? - The New Yorker		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NIST pledges transparency in #NSA dealings over #crypto standards http://t.co/tEAt85aysL too late. #nist now perceived like #darpa		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| NIST pledges transparency in NSA dealings over crypto standards - PC Advisor		Jan 25 19:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559396536229322753 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559396735253221377 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559397663557562368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559398086519562240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559398401503404032	Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Kim Dotcom's NSA-Dodging MegaChat is HERE And It Wants To DESTROY Skype http://t.co/iLsSBsJ9Rn Spype http://t.co/KMvkOGSpsu		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.knowyourmobile.com \| Kim Dotcom's NSA-Dodging MegaChat is HERE And It Wants To DESTROY Skype \| Know Your Mobile		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Skype is Spy Campaign - Techrights		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Registered Mega users can try the platform for free at mega." http://t.co/qiYC8u5aXa		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hindustantimes.com \| 'Anti-NSA' messaging service MegaChat debuts in beta version		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cia was created for intelligence but ended up with assassination, torture, coups etc. #nsa created for intelligence, now cracking, defaming		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Everyone has something with need to hide from someone or someones (e.g. certain family, friends, maybe foreign governments). Reject spying.		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Shut it Down: Utah Bill Would Turn Off Water to #NSA Data Center http://t.co/LW3JslD1rk #utah joins many other states		Jan 25 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telepresenceoptions.com \| Shut it Down: Utah Bill Would Turn Off Water to NSA Data Center - Telepresence Options		Jan 25 19:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559398636401201152 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559399046394441728 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559400267108843520	Jan 25 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Netherlands not the NSA’s lapdog: Interior Minister http://t.co/cEe4JW8W83 rejecting the metaphor maybe, not the facts		Jan 25 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nltimes.nl \| Netherlands not the NSA's lapdog: Interior Minister - NL Times		Jan 25 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Left in #greece https://t.co/f8gSVabzH2		Jan 25 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #china realises that #apple has back doors http://t.co/18Drsn9C2Z http://t.co/B632MbQynd see http://t.co/QeQyS4PqE9		Jan 25 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cultofmac.com \| China will screen all Apple products for NSA backdoor \| Cult of Mac		Jan 25 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.technologytell.com \| China to look at Apple products, fears NSA tampering \| TechnologyTell		Jan 25 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Apple — Like Microsoft — Not Interested in the Security of Its Operating Systems \| Techrights		Jan 25 19:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Flavors 15.04 Vivid Vervet Alpha 2	Jan 25 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	Released http://t.co/szzDEG6Nx9	Jan 25 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 20:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjeof	Jan 25 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Flavors 15.04 Vivid Vervet Alpha 2 Released \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 20:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenSSL 1.0.2 Branch Release notes	Jan 25 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/h0JhrhjWmH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf0e	Jan 25 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OpenSSL 1.0.2 Branch Release notes \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to install Linux on a Chromebook	Jan 25 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ngRL3kZTUx (www.digitaltrends.com)	Jan 25 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	also new: Replace Windows 7 With Linux Mint	Jan 25 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| How to Install Linux on a Chromebook \| Digital Trends		Jan 25 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QcdGkQLp8O	Jan 25 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.everydaylinuxuser.com)	Jan 25 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| Replace Windows 7 With Linux Mint Without Overwriting Other Partitions « Everyday Linux User		Jan 25 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf0f	Jan 25 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Completely open source, high-end laptop gets	Jan 25 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	closer to reality http://t.co/cSjgKWw8va	Jan 25 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.engadget.com)	Jan 25 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com \| Completely open source, high-end laptop gets closer to reality		Jan 25 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf0i	Jan 25 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Signs of progress: One month with Android Wear	Jan 25 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	5.0 http://t.co/UBHTwxVvZZ (arstechnica.com)	Jan 25 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf4q	Jan 25 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Signs of progress: One month with Android Wear 5.0 \| Ars Technica		Jan 25 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calibre Gets a New Tool to Better Edit eBooks	Jan 25 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LvuvPzhSXO (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 25 21:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf4r	Jan 25 21:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Star Traders: 4X Empires Strategy Game Now On	Jan 25 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/GKG6K23u1C	Jan 25 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 25 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf4s	Jan 25 21:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Star Traders: 4X Empires Strategy Game Now On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 25 21:50
*TweetTuxMachines @speedytux retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How to install Linux on a Chromebook ...'		Jan 25 21:50
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'How to install Linux on a Chromebook ...'		Jan 25 21:56
MinceR	gn	Jan 25 22:04
schestowitz	nn	Jan 25 22:18
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JesperBothPede1/status/559472727095271425	Jan 25 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JesperBothPede1: @wikileaks Big surprise, eh? Check out yahoo and youtube and last but not least microsoft( just to be sure )		Jan 25 22:28
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5481876	Jan 25 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kim Dotcom's NSA-Dodging MegaChat is HERE And It Wants To DESTROY Skype http://www.knowyourmobile.com/devices/megachat/23020/kim-dotcoms-nsa-dodging-megachat-here-and-it-wants-destroy-skype Spype http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Skype_is_Spy_Campaign		Jan 25 23:30
schestowitz	"exactly; same will be with all those MEGA things if they don't open-source them"	Jan 25 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.knowyourmobile.com \| Kim Dotcom's NSA-Dodging MegaChat is HERE And It Wants To DESTROY Skype \| Know Your Mobile [ http://ur1.ca/jjewy ]		Jan 25 23:30
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/559492504454590467	Jan 25 23:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: Cc @ggreenwald @ioerror @schestowitz @NafeezAhmed & my friends at Google: my quick thoughts on #Kissinger at Google. https://t.co/S17ZxJFNS2		Jan 25 23:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ekiga 5 – Progress Report	Jan 26 00:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/T5Srg2TEwu (blog.ekiga.net)	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgj2	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyanogen Wants to Wrestle Android Away From	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	Google http://t.co/hZDPpyJBOA (gizmodo.com)	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgmy	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Netrunner 14.1, a GNU/Linux distribution based	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	on Kubuntu, featuring KDE as the default ... is	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	now available" http://t.co/weF9KJC1gy	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgmz	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus Can Be Set to Always	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	Show in Ubuntu 15.04 http://t.co/6YmlvafiZy	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn0	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Integrate Linux Kernel 3.19	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	Branch Soon http://t.co/hmT5jldUyZ	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn1	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 reasons Valve's Steam Machine dream is still	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	very alive http://t.co/mMk4ZrBgkX	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techradar.com)	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn2	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Build Your Own Open-Source SmartWatch	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NA0Hq5Szdg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn3	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus Can Be Set to Always	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	Show in Ubuntu 15.04 http://t.co/G8cZvLPXic	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn4	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Integrate Linux Kernel 3.19	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	Branch Soon http://t.co/dZd7VVsWGh	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn7	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tizen Samsung Z1, made in India and soon to be	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	available in Bangladesh http://t.co/9k1J80BZWJ	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn8	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/7iMCwTsv3c	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn9	Jan 26 00:36
*TweetTuxMachines @speedytux retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Build Your Own Open-Source SmartWatch http://t.co/NA0Hq5Szdg'		Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 25/1/2015: Android Wear 5.0, Tizen in	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	Bangladesh http://t.co/Ziedoyizrw	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgne	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/FMvOiHRn4U	Jan 26 00:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 00:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/aYKDAVln3j	Jan 26 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgwo	Jan 26 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/gl9Yiud1Wb	Jan 26 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgws	Jan 26 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fixing unperceived errors in my X Windows	Jan 26 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	configuration http://t.co/eenRSnakIl	Jan 26 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgwu	Jan 26 01:04
cubexyz	this is a little old, but worthy of attention:	Jan 26 02:38
cubexyz	http://thebreakfastpost.com/2012/06/17/repairable-laptops/	Jan 26 02:39
cubexyz	thinkpads don't have a bad lifespan	Jan 26 02:40
cubexyz	I still have a working R30 which I use a fair bit	Jan 26 02:41
cubexyz	so 13 years old	Jan 26 02:41
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 26 04:07
DaemonFC	5 mins · Edited ·	Jan 26 04:07
DaemonFC	Apple's software quality, such that it ever existed to begin with, is falling deeper into the garbage.	Jan 26 04:07
DaemonFC	When you pay $800 for a cell phone, is it acceptable that things like text messaging sometimes don't work because of bugs in the operating system?	Jan 26 04:07
DaemonFC	http://www.infoworld.com/article/2873356/applications/for-too-many-apple-users-it-doesnt-just-work.html	Jan 26 04:07
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| @lobrien Holy crap: IBM to cut over 100K employees:	Jan 26 04:09
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| retweeted by http://t.co/ndYjoFgwWn (www.itworld.com)	Jan 26 04:09
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| @gewt	Jan 26 04:09
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| ........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjhbz	Jan 26 04:09
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> who was i talking to recently that predicted this?	Jan 26 04:09
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XFaCE	[23:05:18]<schestowitz> [02:12] <qu1j0t3> who was i talking to recently that predicted this?	Jan 26 06:59
XFaCE	schestowitz: you?	Jan 26 07:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MBARI testing the waters with open source	Jan 26 07:14
TweetTuxMachines	camera http://t.co/fxvOeofEnz	Jan 26 07:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 07:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.19-Rc6 Released	Jan 26 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/fuQhASjL00 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjlk5	Jan 26 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE battery monitor http://t.co/Fu66fyPuku	Jan 26 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	(richardhartmann.de)	Jan 26 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjlk8	Jan 26 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux Xfce 7.1 Released.	Jan 26 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0CbR3Pvjwi (makululinux.com)	Jan 26 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjlrk	Jan 26 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu's Mir Gains Server-Side Platform Probing	Jan 26 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/e1QYqN6bRL (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 26 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjlrm	Jan 26 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux Xfce 7.1 Released.	Jan 26 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/u21ECtXA7h (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjlrn	Jan 26 10:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu's Mir Gains Server-Side Platform Probing	Jan 26 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kcL8yEOfAj (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjmbb	Jan 26 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: Android Wear's First	Jan 26 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	Generation Champion http://t.co/ShN9OA3w2J	Jan 26 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.forbes.com)	Jan 26 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjmbc	Jan 26 11:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Updates Its Android Compatibility	Jan 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	Definition Document For Lollipop	Jan 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/eNcdd1f79I (www.androidpolice.com)	Jan 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	... https://t.co/AcWq1NviSK (joindiaspora.com)	Jan 26 11:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjmbd	Jan 26 11:44
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XFaCE	schestowitz: I assume you want to write about that new Android vulnerability	Jan 26 14:03
XFaCE	schestowitz: Basically I can see the narrative being pushed through three points	Jan 26 14:04
XFaCE	- Microsoft supported Windows XP/7/etc. for year, why doesn't Google support old Android versions	Jan 26 14:05
XFaCE	*years	Jan 26 14:05
XFaCE	- Google told Microsoft about a very old bug in their software, so they are hypocritical	Jan 26 14:05
XFaCE	- Heartbleed bug was fixed way back for 4.1.1	Jan 26 14:06
XFaCE	schestowitz: for the last point, it's a bullshit comparison because a) 4.1.1 was one point release where upgrading to 4.1.2 fixed the issue (it was already fixed back when 4.1.2 was released)	Jan 26 14:07
XFaCE	b) The fix was one file, as evident by XDA members patched it themselves on phones manufacturers refused to upgrade to 4.1.2 SOURCE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712916	Jan 26 14:09
XFaCE	c) As shown by the link, a lot of manufacturers DIDN'T update certain 4.1.1 devices to 4.1.2, hence proving Google's point. The fix there was SIMPLE, but the OEMs didn't bother to do it	Jan 26 14:09
XFaCE	With Webview, not only is webview involved, but so is the webkit rendering engine	Jan 26 14:10
XFaCE	so the fix for all those previously releases is much more complicated	Jan 26 14:10
XFaCE	as for the second point, Google did catch it, with KitKat, and furthermore made KitKat supported on more low-end devices so theoretically older 512mb or less devices could be updated	Jan 26 14:12
XFaCE	schestowitz: for example, HTC said (when Jelly Bean 4.1 came out) that they would not update any device with 512 mb of RAM (SOURCE: http://www.cnet.com/news/htc-one-v-and-desire-c-will-never-get-jelly-bean/ )	Jan 26 14:14
XFaCE	schestowitz: so naturally when KitKat came out, they updated those devices because the OS officially was designed for such low ram devices	Jan 26 14:16
XFaCE	oh wait	Jan 26 14:16
XFaCE	http://www.androidpit.com/android-4-4-kitkat-update-plans	Jan 26 14:16
XFaCE	"Later this year, the entry-level smartphone the HTC Desire 500, should also be seeing the KitKat update. However, the One X, One X+, One S, and One V will be left in the dust and will be receiving no more official updates from HTC.	Jan 26 14:17
XFaCE	"	Jan 26 14:17
XFaCE	so the OEMs are at fault for not upgrading the devices, not Google	Jan 26 14:17
XFaCE	which leads to point 1 - Google doesn't control the Android OEMs like Microsoft does	Jan 26 14:18
XFaCE	OEM pay Microsoft for the support whereby Microsoft controls all updates, Google doesn't	Jan 26 14:18
XFaCE	get paid	Jan 26 14:19
XFaCE	or have the agremeent in that way	Jan 26 14:19
XFaCE	the OEMs like HTC could easily fix this by porting Kitkat to those devices, but they won't cause they want you to buy a new HTC phone	Jan 26 14:19
XFaCE	or whatever phone brand	Jan 26 14:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: Android Wear's First	Jan 26 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	Generation Champion http://t.co/wCtHvKQLao	Jan 26 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjnzt	Jan 26 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Updates Its Android Compatibility	Jan 26 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Definition Document For Lollipop	Jan 26 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	@iArthurCDN http://t.co/eNcdd1f79I (www.androidpolice.com)	Jan 26 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	... https://t.co/AcWq1NviSK (joindiaspora.com)	Jan 26 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjnzu	Jan 26 14:54
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx1O6RELDCRYHQN&newContentID=Mx2N04P4QX68HRC#Mx2N04P4QX68HRC	Jan 26 15:42
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 26 15:42
DaemonFC	It gets worse. Not wanting to take personal responsibility for anything they do, the Republicans in Indiana have given a blank check to a state-owned corporation called the "Indiana Economic Development Corporation" to do this sort of stupid crap on their behalf, while insulating them from the political fallout from actually having to vote for it.	Jan 26 15:42
DaemonFC	Every year, millions upon millions of Indiana taxpayer dollars flow through this corporation, which "picks winners and losers" and hands million dollar check to companies like Walmart to create jobs that would have been created either way.	Jan 26 15:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OEMs Adapt To The Decline In The Market For PCs	Jan 26 17:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 3.19-rc6 http://t.co/YFnwSr6iPT	Jan 26 17:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015 XOrg Elections Get Underway For Board	Jan 26 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	Members, SPI Merger http://t.co/ILKzck3hQp	Jan 26 18:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How open source can be a gateway to your next	Jan 26 18:49
TweetTuxMachines	job http://t.co/Huk8hPqeY4	Jan 26 18:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OEMs Adapt To The Decline In The Market For PCs	Jan 26 18:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015 http://t.co/5vV90o4wJB (www.x.org)	Jan 26 19:34
TweetTuxMachines	Elections Get Underway For Board Members, SPI	Jan 26 19:34
TweetTuxMachines	Merger http://t.co/o50Kk7r69E	Jan 26 19:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source empowers city archive Hospitalet	Jan 26 19:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Redmond’s ‘Free’ Gambit http://t.co/dzXFHKPm7Y	Jan 26 19:34
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MinceR	http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/23/google-reveals-zero-day-mac-exploits/	Jan 26 19:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Portugal engineering lab: facts favour open	Jan 26 20:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Conjuring Android's best features	Jan 26 20:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4YnuRNMrBM (www.heraldtribune.com)	Jan 26 20:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IPFire Is a Powerful Firewall Distro and It Was	Jan 26 20:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Linux Terminal Commands That Will Rock Your	Jan 26 20:20
TweetTuxMachines	World	Jan 26 20:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/GwARo4UukW	Jan 26 20:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source software for quantum information	Jan 26 20:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 7.8 "Wheezy" Live CD Now Available for	Jan 26 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	Download http://t.co/BXSZB55BMg	Jan 26 20:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IPFire Is a Powerful Firewall Distro and It Was	Jan 26 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	Just Updated http://t.co/AfBGJi2GxW	Jan 26 20:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 7.8 "Wheezy" Live CD Now Available for	Jan 26 20:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD FX-8320E Performance On Linux	Jan 26 21:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MatchStick Hands-On: A Cheap Open Source	Jan 26 21:04
TweetTuxMachines	Chromecast? Yes Please. http://t.co/K0AoXfL1Sq	Jan 26 21:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5 based apps available in copr	Jan 26 21:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD FX-8320E Performance On Linux	Jan 26 21:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MatchStick Hands-On: A Cheap Open Source	Jan 26 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	Chromecast? Yes Please. http://t.co/qUjcuAJn0E	Jan 26 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 21:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why I prefer Samsung Gear’s Tizen to Android	Jan 26 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	Wear http://t.co/B8FT0OSaBQ	Jan 26 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 21:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Xfce 0.8.12 RC1 Is a Surpring Release	Jan 26 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	That Further Improves the Xfce Experience	Jan 26 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FFestNq7gy (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 21:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Project Ara Modules Will Be Compatible	Jan 26 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	with BLOCKS Modular Smartwatch	Jan 26 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/69uzRKSpTn (mobile.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 21:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 8.0 "Jessie" RC1 Is Here, Test Away	Jan 26 21:18
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TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JEzBK5fDuB (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 26 21:18
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MinceR	http://www.washingtonsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Squirrels.jpg	Jan 26 21:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyanogen CEO says he wants to ‘take Android	Jan 26 21:30
TweetTuxMachines	away from Google’ http://t.co/7qaRJ1XMv3	Jan 26 21:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines gimp-paint-studio addon soon on Gnome Software	Jan 26 21:30
TweetTuxMachines	Center http://t.co/VuVhanivAK	Jan 26 21:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nouveau In Linux 3.20 Will Have A Lot Of Code	Jan 26 21:30
TweetTuxMachines	Cleaning http://t.co/PEX3CTy9FU	Jan 26 21:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 26 21:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why I prefer Samsung Gear’s Tizen to Android	Jan 26 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	Wear http://t.co/4JhrB4xQyR	Jan 26 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidauthority.com)	Jan 26 21:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Compiz Support Being Tested for Ubuntu MATE	Jan 26 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	14.04 LTS and Ubuntu 14.10, Install Now	Jan 26 21:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35.0.1 Now Out – My God, It's Full of	Jan 26 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes http://t.co/5z5SCH5twD	Jan 26 21:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evolve OS Is a Superb New OS Built from	Jan 26 21:48
TweetTuxMachines	Scratch, First Beta Is Out – Gallery	Jan 26 21:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35.0.1 Now Out – My God, It's Full of	Jan 26 21:48
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes http://t.co/gWbWIgXIwQ	Jan 26 21:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 8.0 "Jessie" Installer RC1 Released	Jan 26 21:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nouveau In Linux 3.20 Will Have A Lot Of Code	Jan 26 22:28
TweetTuxMachines	Cleaning http://t.co/UdR0eOPhvK	Jan 26 22:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evolve OS Is a Superb New OS Built from	Jan 26 22:28
TweetTuxMachines	Scratch, First Beta Is Out – Gallery	Jan 26 22:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 26/1/2015: Debian 8.0 “Jessie” RC1, Linux	Jan 26 22:28
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TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 26 22:28
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 26 22:29
DaemonFC	I wonder how many more Republican chances at the White House Rmoney can blow before the Kochs give up and hire someone to assassinate him.	Jan 26 22:29
MinceR	lol	Jan 26 22:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/sDLmpfYNI4	Jan 26 23:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft’s Media Attack on Free Software and	Jan 26 23:16
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux http://t.co/rcs6o8pzsK	Jan 26 23:16
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 26 23:16
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 27 00:27
DaemonFC	14 mins · Edited ·	Jan 27 00:27
DaemonFC	Indiana Governor Mike Pence is going to pull a Vladimir Putin and start his own miniature "Russia Today". Is this even America?	Jan 27 00:27
DaemonFC	Apparently, hizzoner doesn't believe the real news is being fair to him, so apparently the new game plan is "waaah waah waaaah make crap up"....	Jan 27 00:27
DaemonFC	tongue emoticon	Jan 27 00:27
DaemonFC	Do you prefer realfact or goodfact, comrades? I'm a realfact kind of guy. smile emoticon	Jan 27 00:27
DaemonFC	http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/01/26/pence-starts-state-run-news-outlet-to-compete-with-media/22370005/	Jan 27 00:27
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 27 00:28
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Jan 27 00:28
DaemonFC	You know that shit is about to go down when your Governor starts his own personal website to compete with the news.	Jan 27 00:28
DaemonFC	Maybe I need to accelerate my timetable to bail on Indiana, which is the meth capital of the world and a broken banana republic.	Jan 27 00:28
DaemonFC	You guys can enjoy El Jefe as many times as you want him.	Jan 27 00:29
cubexyz	a lot of windows users are checking out my linux notes	Jan 27 00:40
cubexyz	rather odd	Jan 27 00:42
cubexyz	most of them seem to be Windows NT 6.2	Jan 27 00:44
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 27 01:04
DaemonFC	1 min · Edited ·	Jan 27 01:04
DaemonFC	Welcome to the Republic of Penceistan, comrades!	Jan 27 01:04
DaemonFC	Penceistani industry best in world! We invent toffee and trouser press! wink emoticon	Jan 27 01:04
DaemonFC	Penceistani prostitutes cleanest in the region, except of course for Ohiostaaaaan... Dah dah dah dah dah dah dah!	Jan 27 01:04
DaemonFC	http://wane.com/2015/01/26/pence-to-launch-state-run-news-service-in-indiana/	Jan 27 01:04
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SilverSlimer	how are you guys doing	Jan 27 01:14
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 27 01:16
DaemonFC	Someone asked if Fox News wasn't already letting him do and say whatever he wanted.	Jan 27 01:16
DaemonFC	I replied:	Jan 27 01:16
DaemonFC	I could never tell if Fox News or the Wall Street Journal was being more kind to Governor Mike Pence. I guess I'd say the WSJ since they let him write an article all by himself. Now that he's going to run his own news site with state money that will publish his propaganda verbatim, day in, and day out, he can do as many as he wants without having to ask the even more Uber James Bond Villains for permission. Muahahahahahaa!!!!	Jan 27 01:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/Bg1HFlbiQv	Jan 27 01:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/um05us5iSj	Jan 27 01:28
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SilverSlimer	since this is the techrights.org official channel, I have to ask: other than Dr. Schestowitz, does anyone write for techrights?	Jan 27 01:28
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/IndianaProgressives/posts/874017019307536?comment_id=874094959299742&offset=0&total_comments=2&notif_t=share_reply	Jan 27 01:45
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Will this be passed before or after they spend tax money to fund Pence's state-owned news agency that sounds like something out of a former Soviet Republic?	Jan 27 01:45
DaemonFC	David Harding This won't go anywhere as long as the GOP controls this state and the GOP is contriolled by the right wingers, business and tea turds.	Jan 27 01:45
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer I wouldn't be so sure. Never put anything past them when it benefits them. You don't think that Pence's rag will be praising the Republicans in the State Duma? Errr. That's "General Assembly" in oldspeak.	Jan 27 01:45
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TweetTuxMachines	management http://t.co/Y8mncmZfC3	Jan 27 01:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Forked: All for Devuan and Devuan for	Jan 27 01:55
TweetTuxMachines	All? http://t.co/96Lva5VQ3P	Jan 27 01:55
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DaemonFC	http://wp.me/p4ySsJ-kpX	Jan 27 02:50
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 27 02:50
DaemonFC	3 mins · Edited ·	Jan 27 02:50
DaemonFC	Great news kids! Your parents can send you off for college packing an iPhone that runs more spyware than usual. Joy!	Jan 27 02:50
DaemonFC	A new app lets parents track their adult children through their crApple spyPhone to "make sure they're attending class".	Jan 27 02:50
DaemonFC	Here's an idea. Put the spyPhone in your back pocket and sit on it. Be free! FREE!!! glasses emoticon	Jan 27 02:50
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 27 04:16
DaemonFC	http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/bmv-to-outsource-license-plate-production	Jan 27 04:16
DaemonFC	Indiana license plates will no longer be made by Indiana prisoners. They'll be made by California prisoners instead.	Jan 27 04:16
DaemonFC	The current set up has the Indiana state government paying a private contractor to subcontract to another company to "employ" prisoners that are already imprisoned by the state of Indiana.	Jan 27 04:16
DaemonFC	Just some of those layers and layers of Republican efficiency we're always hearing so much about.	Jan 27 04:16
DaemonFC	I say we send Pence to prison and have him stamp some license plates.	Jan 27 04:16
DaemonFC	He deserves to be "ennobled" with a productive job while he pays his debt to society. And good god, have you seen the man!? He could stand a little physical exercise. Have him work off those mantitties. It's embarrassing to have him show up in a military costume that says "Commander in Chief" with that, ahem, bust size.	Jan 27 04:16
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DaemonFC	Facebook appears to be down.	Jan 27 06:21
cubexyz	ok, I need to point out the absurdity of fossforce.com running microsoft ads	Jan 27 06:36
cubexyz	it's probably becauase fossforce is knocking windows 10 but still :)	Jan 27 06:37
cubexyz	ok, maybe they don't care and ad money is money but... I think it's a bad idea	Jan 27 06:38
DaemonFC	Who cares?	Jan 27 06:39
DaemonFC	The money spends. :)	Jan 27 06:39
DaemonFC	As long as they don't go all SourceForge on us...	Jan 27 06:39
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 27 06:39
cubexyz	I think it's just careless to let that happen	Jan 27 06:40
cubexyz	you can block ads by domain name	Jan 27 06:40
cubexyz	not that I think fossforce is going to sell a lot of Surface Pro 3's, so no point running the ads	Jan 27 06:41
cubexyz	also the Surface Pro 1 and 2 were ranked dead last in repairability	Jan 27 06:44
cubexyz	just saying	Jan 27 06:45
cubexyz	"tons of adhesive and screws, opening the device risks shearing the display cables"	Jan 27 06:45
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/fossforce-microsoft-ad.png	Jan 27 06:49
DaemonFC	http://thenextweb.com/facebook/2015/01/27/facebook-instagram-right-now/	Jan 27 06:50
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 27 09:05
sebsebseb	MinceR: schestowitz good looks like I can see RIchard Stallman speak agian and also see John Sulivan speak. Karan Sander to possibly	Jan 27 09:06
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schestowitz	> old:	Jan 27 18:00
schestowitz	>	Jan 27 18:00
schestowitz	> http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/barrett-brown-faces-105-years-in-jail-20130905	Jan 27 18:00
schestowitz	>	Jan 27 18:00
schestowitz	> ==	Jan 27 18:00
schestowitz	>	Jan 27 18:00
schestowitz	> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/25/wikileaks-google-staff-emails-us-government	Jan 27 18:00
schestowitz	Google has a lot of my mail because many people us gmail	Jan 27 18:00
schestowitz	*use	Jan 27 18:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Opera 27 Stable Web Browser Released With Tab	Jan 27 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	Preview Back, Install In Ubuntu, Linux Mint And	Jan 27 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	Others http://t.co/mS6D43CvBX	Jan 27 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 19:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk1ig	Jan 27 19:10
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 27 19:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Opera 27 Is the First Stable Version in 2015,	Jan 27 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	Tab Previews Are Back http://t.co/aNLkOewkPI	Jan 27 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) Proprietary though,	Jan 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	still...	Jan 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk1y1	Jan 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines China-Based Android Developer APUS Lands $100M	Jan 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	For New Services And Global Focus	Jan 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/I1y1P3gpXT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk1y3	Jan 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition	Jan 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	portables with M3800 monster	Jan 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QqjHhg7g0v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk1y6	Jan 27 19:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Is A New Chromium-Based Web Browser For	Jan 27 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	Power Users http://t.co/o29MM1KPas	Jan 27 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.webupd8.org)	Jan 27 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk25t	Jan 27 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why screen lockers on X11 cannot be secure	Jan 27 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YYv5ZBklGy (error)	Jan 27 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk27c	Jan 27 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5.2 Is Beautiful and Featureful	Jan 27 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zJMUM5dx09 (dot.kde.org)	Jan 27 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk29m	Jan 27 20:28
MinceR	lol @ wayland ad	Jan 27 20:29
MinceR	wayland can't even capture or warp the pointer	Jan 27 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny $26 WiFi-ready IoT SBC runs OpenWRT Linux	Jan 27 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YOErxpjMe3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2aa	Jan 27 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why screen lockers on X11 cannot be secure	Jan 27 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZPtqRrkLmz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2ab	Jan 27 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5.2 Is Beautiful and Featureful	Jan 27 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Xs1aDOAlKb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2ae	Jan 27 20:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Grim Fandango Remastered Has Strangely High	Jan 27 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	System Requirements for Linux	Jan 27 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6oqQ5iQzMh (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 27 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2j6	Jan 27 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines China-Based Android Developer APUS Lands $100M	Jan 27 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	For New Services And Global Focus	Jan 27 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hDb5OZCESH (techcrunch.com)	Jan 27 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2j7	Jan 27 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny $26 WiFi-ready IoT SBC runs OpenWRT Linux	Jan 27 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wSJI0QjSQb (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 27 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2j8	Jan 27 20:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition	Jan 27 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	portables with M3800 monster	Jan 27 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9siFYJcFLI (arstechnica.com)	Jan 27 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2l3	Jan 27 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines White House CTO calls for open source APIs,	Jan 27 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	visibility for women http://t.co/Awjce2SjkB	Jan 27 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2l7	Jan 27 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux Allinone Edition 11.0 Is a Complete OS	Jan 27 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/t1rlIdWDMM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2l8	Jan 27 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GHOST, a critical Linux security hole, is	Jan 27 21:02
TweetTuxMachines	revealed http://t.co/5yZHlSD4aQ	Jan 27 21:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 21:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2l9	Jan 27 21:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines High-end 'upstream' Linux laptop plans to ship	Jan 27 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	in April http://t.co/CMpl1o2iqi (m.phys.org)	Jan 27 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2rr	Jan 27 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android essentials: 13 apps I can't live	Jan 27 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	without http://t.co/3vGAx0L6Lc	Jan 27 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerworld.com)	Jan 27 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2rs	Jan 27 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Real-time enabled Sitara SoC shows up on a COM	Jan 27 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/M7FPPwH6MY (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 27 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2rv	Jan 27 21:19
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DaemonFC	http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/vivaldi-web-browser-linux-download-power-users	Jan 27 21:35
DaemonFC	https://vivaldi.com	Jan 27 21:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android continues to increase its market share	Jan 27 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	at others’ expenseby http://t.co/Bv041NUOa7	Jan 27 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.dailynewsegypt.com)	Jan 27 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2yp	Jan 27 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android essentials: 13 apps I can't live	Jan 27 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	without http://t.co/NucMhEeKBg	Jan 27 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2yr	Jan 27 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines High-end 'upstream' Linux laptop plans to ship	Jan 27 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	in April http://t.co/xguo4XmKYo	Jan 27 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2ys	Jan 27 21:36
MinceR	https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/RzSZFYWn7sX	Jan 27 21:37
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5490300	Jan 27 22:13
schestowitz	"What happened to "we do not spy on Americans"? I had the idea they were exceptional."	Jan 27 22:13
schestowitz	"	Jan 27 22:13
schestowitz	Maybe the US eagle is not just bald but deaf too, I hear no freedom:	Jan 27 22:13
schestowitz	http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/23014512.jpg	Jan 27 22:13
schestowitz	"	Jan 27 22:13
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5485013	Jan 27 22:14
schestowitz	":) → spam dump yard"	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Real-time enabled Sitara SoC shows up on a COM	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vP4EfRRPoe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk3ba	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android continues to increase its market share	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	at others’ expenseby http://t.co/fmEOwKT6Ue	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk3bd	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open-source development of Pirate Bay	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	replacement could make site immune to police	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	takedown http://t.co/8VkC03uv1y	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 22:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk3be	Jan 27 22:14
sebsebseb	schestowitz: I get to see RMS speak again soon and go for a intering dinner and so on to	Jan 27 22:28
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schestowitz	sebsebseb: fantastic, where?	Jan 27 23:25
schestowitz	FOSDEM?	Jan 27 23:25
schestowitz	and is her keynoting there?	Jan 27 23:25
sebsebseb	schestowitz: yeah Karen doing a key note on Saturday	Jan 27 23:25
sebsebseb	,but there's a meal with her and Bkuhm	Jan 27 23:25
sebsebseb	on FRiday :d	Jan 27 23:25
sebsebseb	after the RMS talk	Jan 27 23:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/oshwm/status/560213055296897024	Jan 27 23:25
sebsebseb	schestowitz: seem's that's going to be quit a big one	Jan 27 23:26
sebsebseb	and the one to go to	Jan 27 23:26
schestowitz	Maybe share among colleagues, based on Snowden's experience	Jan 27 23:26
sebsebseb	schestowitz: do you know about Jolla?	Jan 27 23:26
schestowitz	yes	Jan 27 23:26
sebsebseb	yeah I got one	Jan 27 23:26
sebsebseb	awesome :)	Jan 27 23:26
schestowitz	we love it here and want to use it	Jan 27 23:26
sebsebseb	Jolla pone	Jan 27 23:26
sebsebseb	oh?	Jan 27 23:26
schestowitz	is ti on sale here?	Jan 27 23:26
sebsebseb	schestowitz: oh and a guy from Jolla live nar me so got him to come along to the LUG that was good :)	Jan 27 23:27
sebsebseb	here as in, inside the UK no	Jan 27 23:27
sebsebseb	,but you can buy the phone directly from Finland	Jan 27 23:27
schestowitz	just finland	Jan 27 23:27
schestowitz	that's what I remembered	Jan 27 23:27
sebsebseb	yes but they ship globally	Jan 27 23:27
schestowitz	and they sold lots there	Jan 27 23:27
sebsebseb	I havne't decided Saturdya night yet	Jan 27 23:27
sebsebseb	Magiea will do something probably at the pizza place from lastyear	Jan 27 23:27
sebsebseb	,but	Jan 27 23:27
sebsebseb	there's a Jolla dinner going on to with like 30 or so people	Jan 27 23:28
sebsebseb	may go to that instead if can get into that still, but not sure	Jan 27 23:28
sebsebseb	schestowitz: not really that interested in Mageia anymore	Jan 27 23:28
sebsebseb	so many community issues and such uh	Jan 27 23:28
sebsebseb	I mean the actsal community side of runningg things etc	Jan 27 23:28
sebsebseb	wel that's how I feel anyway	Jan 27 23:29
sebsebseb	seems certain community contributiosn aren't really taken eriosuly enough as well and things like that to	Jan 27 23:29
sebsebseb	schestowitz: oh an so much for getting a Mageia stand at say OGG Camp	Jan 27 23:30
sebsebseb	I mean with a few volunteers	Jan 27 23:30
sebsebseb	it seems	Jan 27 23:30
sebsebseb	schestowitz: yeah Jolla is aweosme, an interesting thing for sure :)	Jan 27 23:30
*sebsebseb looks forward to getting his tablet in May as well :)		Jan 27 23:31
sebsebseb	Jolla tablet	Jan 27 23:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IT pros to move to open source software in 2015	Jan 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5HSZimXFvh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk42f	Jan 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Community Wants Homeworld Remastered	Jan 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/moaqFNy15b (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk42h	Jan 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	@REALMattRichie @Android essentials: 13 apps I can't live	Jan 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	without http://t.co/y19qgYSaWK	Jan 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org) \| via @tuxmachines	Jan 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk42j	Jan 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyanogen aims to make Android a fully open	Jan 27 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	platform http://t.co/mkDkWtX6Zo	Jan 27 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.bizjournals.com)	Jan 27 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk441	Jan 27 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Game Apps Are Becoming As Profitable As	Jan 27 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	Those On The iPhone http://t.co/He6k7i37SE	Jan 27 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com)	Jan 27 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk442	Jan 27 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Presto TV turns on Android support	Jan 27 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KVpX6NUnNf (www.techradar.com)	Jan 27 23:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk443	Jan 27 23:50
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*TweetTuxMachines @GetAppeer favourited 'Android Game Apps Are Becoming As Profitable As...'		Jan 28 00:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 27/1/2015: Plasma 5.2, Dell Precision	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	With GNU/Linux http://t.co/JINSFUKfCI	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk4my	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mobie Is a Tablet That Dual-Boots Ubuntu 14.04	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	LTS and Windows 8.1 http://t.co/TALgVXEqbe	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk4n1	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/cW3CsWUwaa	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk4n3	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/DGXXxWutQE	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 00:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk4n4	Jan 28 00:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/ZI493b0OoR	Jan 28 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk6g9	Jan 28 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/Wu6aVP0U3k	Jan 28 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk6gd	Jan 28 04:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Stable Released, Install In	Jan 28 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu/Linux Mint http://t.co/lvpnAjVdfC	Jan 28 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk710	Jan 28 05:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition	Jan 28 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by portables with M3800 monster	Jan 28 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux http://t.co/QqjHhg7g0v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk72x	Jan 28 05:56
*TweetTuxMachines @speedytux favourited 'Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition portables with M3800...'		Jan 28 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Is A New Chromium-Based Web Browser For	Jan 28 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Power Users http://t.co/o29MM1KPas	Jan 28 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux (www.webupd8.org)	Jan 28 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk73z	Jan 28 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5.2 Is Beautiful and Featureful	Jan 28 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by https://t.co/zJMUM5dx09 (dot.kde.org)	Jan 28 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux	Jan 28 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk740	Jan 28 06:00
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/560322004273086464	Jan 28 09:01
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75	Jan 28 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Academic Essay Samples!!!	Jan 28 09:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qxP9dWn50Y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 09:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8pf	Jan 28 09:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The	Jan 28 09:14
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone http://t.co/n3EM1E1wiU	Jan 28 09:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 09:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8pg	Jan 28 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The iPhone \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 09:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones	Jan 28 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kI9gs7XxRJ (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 28 09:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8rb	Jan 28 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones		Jan 28 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Star-Hopper for KStars https://t.co/LbWeITADvX	Jan 28 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	(thegreatercode.wordpress.com)	Jan 28 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8rc	Jan 28 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thegreatercode.wordpress.com \| Star-Hopper for KStars \| Hacking for KStars		Jan 28 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AppStream 0.8 released! http://t.co/LD7eArV1XW	Jan 28 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.tenstral.net) "the cross-distribution	Jan 28 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	standard for software metadata"	Jan 28 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.tenstral.net \| AppStream 0.8 released! \| Ximions Blog		Jan 28 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8rd	Jan 28 09:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What is a good command-line IRC client on Linux	Jan 28 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/A6KnW0C2CN (xmodulo.com)	Jan 28 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8y1	Jan 28 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xmodulo.com \| What is a good command-line IRC client on Linux - Xmodulo		Jan 28 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The	Jan 28 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone http://t.co/xaQSYTYFfz	Jan 28 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com)	Jan 28 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8y3	Jan 28 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com \| Android Phones Versus iPhone - Business Insider		Jan 28 09:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic	Jan 28 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20	Jan 28 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Hnwf7D5DDq (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 28 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8y4	Jan 28 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20 - Phoronix		Jan 28 09:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The	Jan 28 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by iPhone http://t.co/n3EM1E1wiU	Jan 28 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	@voidquest44 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 09:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The iPhone \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones	Jan 28 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OOtpc47hbq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 09:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 09:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.4 the beautiful	Jan 28 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/A65bZGnrOa (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9cr	Jan 28 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.4 the beautiful \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic	Jan 28 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20	Jan 28 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OKRmAIFGZo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9cs	Jan 28 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20 \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Citizens call on Dortmund to use free software	Jan 28 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YHAvGmJiaq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9cu	Jan 28 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Citizens call on Dortmund to use free software \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch apps can run in windowed mode	Jan 28 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FNAp2UvBty (liliputing.com)	Jan 28 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9fy	Jan 28 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com \| Ubuntu Touch apps can run in windowed mode - Liliputing		Jan 28 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Square tries to make open source “welcoming and	Jan 28 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	inspiring” to women http://t.co/D3tFTS1y4R	Jan 28 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 10:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Square tries to make open source “welcoming and inspiring” to women \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch apps can run in windowed mode	Jan 28 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LRLlFSJgms (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 10:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch apps can run in windowed mode \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 10:40
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/youtube-declares-html5-video-ready-for-primetime-makes-it-default/	Jan 28 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| YouTube says HTML5 video ready for primetime, makes it default \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jk9or ]		Jan 28 11:10
Sosumi	yepi-ki-iai	Jan 28 11:11
schestowitz	great stuff, seen it...	Jan 28 11:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5494364	Jan 28 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Koch Brothers' Network Aims to Spend $889 Million on the 2016 Elections http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/koch-brothers-889-million-2016-elections #billgates spends $billion in 3 years just bribing media		Jan 28 11:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com \| The Koch Brothers' Network Aims to Spend $889 Million on the 2016 Elections \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/jk9ow ]		Jan 28 11:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or	Jan 28 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	Aesthetic http://t.co/ST13E7xFhi	Jan 28 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.datamation.com)	Jan 28 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9p2	Jan 28 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com \| Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or Aesthetic - Datamation		Jan 28 11:12
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or Aesthetic http://t.co/ST13E7xFhi'		Jan 28 11:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or	Jan 28 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	Aesthetic http://t.co/kPpijJ2I1U	Jan 28 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkapl	Jan 28 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or Aesthetic \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA's Latest Maxwell Line-Up Against AMD	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	With Catalyst On Linux http://t.co/UBOYya76Y8	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 28 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| NVIDIA's Latest Maxwell Line-Up Against AMD With Catalyst On Linux - Phoronix		Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkapo	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA's Latest Maxwell Line-Up Against AMD	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	With Catalyst On Linux http://t.co/IN3rV0ek9S	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkapr	Jan 28 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| NVIDIA's Latest Maxwell Line-Up Against AMD With Catalyst On Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice for Android coming soon	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PNcqrgIrX1 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkar4	Jan 28 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice for Android coming soon \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 reasons asynchronous communication is better	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	than synchronous communication in open source	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yjHywyXXYX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkar6	Jan 28 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 reasons asynchronous communication is better than synchronous communication in open source \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel New DLC ‘Lady	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	Hammerlock The Baroness Pack’ Lands On Linux	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JVXc6sL558 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkar7	Jan 28 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel New DLC ‘Lady Hammerlock The Baroness Pack’ Lands On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 28 13:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 5 Best Android Games of January 2015	Jan 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Z5ItE0oxwb (heavy.com)	Jan 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkasa	Jan 28 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-heavy.com \| Top 5 Best Android Games of January 2015 \| Heavy.com		Jan 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Witcher 2 Has A New Beta For Linux, The	Jan 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	Improvements Are Staggering	Jan 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oTgPJVF1Uy (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkasb	Jan 28 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Witcher 2 Has A New Beta For Linux, The Improvements Are Staggering \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Scirra’s 'Construct' Game Creation Editor To	Jan 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	Support Linux With Construct 3	Jan 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2lBYHgFkEM (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 13:18
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkasc	Jan 28 13:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Scirra’s 'Construct' Game Creation Editor To Support Linux With Construct 3 \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 28 13:18
XFaCE	schestowitz: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/28/canada-cse-levitation-mass-surveillance	Jan 28 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-firstlook.org \| Canada Casts Global Surveillance Dragnet Over File Downloads - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/jkash ]		Jan 28 13:19
XFaCE	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cse-tracks-millions-of-downloads-daily-snowden-documents-1.2930120	Jan 28 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca \| CSE tracks millions of downloads daily: Snowden documents - Canada - CBC News [ http://ur1.ca/jkasj ]		Jan 28 13:19
cubexyz	XFaCE, good find	Jan 28 13:46
cubexyz	ugh, CBC and their stupid ads	Jan 28 13:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.10 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Gets Fix for	Jan 28 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	Unbound Vulnerability	Jan 28 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QYJcz6aYGn (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkbgh	Jan 28 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 14.10 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Gets Fix for Unbound Vulnerability - Softpedia		Jan 28 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines e-a-fantastic-looking-3d-adventure-game-shows-linux-progress.4886/	Jan 28 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkbgi	Jan 28 14:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cradle, A Fantastic Looking 3D Adventure Game	Jan 28 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	Shows Linux Progress https://t.co/Sn44PkPkBl	Jan 28 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkbgj	Jan 28 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Cradle, A Fantastic Looking 3D Adventure Game Shows Linux Progress \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 28 14:32
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XFaCE	cubexyz: that's why there's the intercept link :)	Jan 28 15:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced	Jan 28 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	and Stable Version Available	Jan 28 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Km2uhGCwNX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd3z	Jan 28 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced and Stable Version Available \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker chief operator: Why the open source	Jan 28 16:35
TweetTuxMachines	container project is taking a new shape	Jan 28 16:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Fs9PR2BI35 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd44	Jan 28 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Docker chief operator: Why the open source container project is taking a new shape \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons Your Company Should Open Source More	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	Code http://t.co/t2mv6qqnXy	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9a	Jan 28 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 5 Reasons Your Company Should Open Source More Code \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	Driver for Users with Old Cards	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TgiaODpN3s (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9b	Jan 28 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy Driver for Users with Old Cards \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Xfce 0.9.0 Pre2 Arrives with Lots of	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes, Already Looks Promising	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nxKM8qnb1F (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9c	Jan 28 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Xfce 0.9.0 Pre2 Arrives with Lots of Fixes, Already Looks Promising \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	Lots of Freeware http://t.co/IExUCQdZgM	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9d	Jan 28 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download Lots of Freeware \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35.0.1 Is Now Available for Ubuntu	Jan 28 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	Supported OSes http://t.co/ti53GlJjkB	Jan 28 17:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdn4	Jan 28 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Firefox 35.0.1 Is Now Available for Ubuntu Supported OSes \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qualys Starts Self-Promotional FUD Campaign,	Jan 28 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	Naming a Bug That Was Already Fixed 2 Years Ago	Jan 28 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/n4bgUcMbMp (techrights.org)	Jan 28 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdn6	Jan 28 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Qualys Starts Self-Promotional FUD Campaign, Naming a Bug That Was Already Fixed 2 Years Ago and Distros Have Covered With Patches \| Techrights		Jan 28 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/wC8TwZiTqx	Jan 28 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 17:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdn7	Jan 28 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 17:32
XFaCE	MinceR: so filelockers shouldn't be visited either without a VPN it seems	Jan 28 17:40
XFaCE	VPN all the things!!	Jan 28 17:40
MinceR	:>	Jan 28 17:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced	Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	and Stable Version Available	Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/z08zIc8ssG (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdqe	Jan 28 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced and Stable Version Available - Softpedia		Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker chief operator: Why the open source	Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	container project is taking a new shape	Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gtLCnAKoDh (www.zdnet.com)	Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdqf	Jan 28 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Docker chief operator: Why the open source container project is taking a new shape \| ZDNet		Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy	Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	Driver for Users with Old Cards	Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/17x736IIKT (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdqg	Jan 28 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy Driver for Users with Old Cards - Softpedia		Jan 28 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Xfce 0.9.0 Pre2 Arrives with Lots of	Jan 28 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes, Already Looks Promising	Jan 28 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iiKzS3aay7 (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdsw	Jan 28 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro Xfce 0.9.0 Pre2 Arrives with Lots of Fixes, Already Looks Promising - Softpedia		Jan 28 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS	Jan 28 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	Taking Over the World of IT	Jan 28 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9cU5xWITWA (mrpogson.com)	Jan 28 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdsx	Jan 28 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS Taking Over the World of IT \| Robert Pogson		Jan 28 17:49
*TweetTuxMachines @DataHuge favourited 'IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS Taking...'		Jan 28 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35.0.1 Is Now Available for Ubuntu	Jan 28 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	Supported OSes http://t.co/nGCdpLb1hG	Jan 28 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 17:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Firefox 35.0.1 Is Now Available for Ubuntu Supported OSes - Softpedia		Jan 28 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvl	Jan 28 17:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	Lots of Freeware http://t.co/Ej0ZDQwkmB	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.howtogeek.com)	Jan 28 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com \| Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download Lots of Freeware		Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvn	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "A large amount of vendor software runs on	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, so there’s plenty of systems	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	administration to do" http://t.co/x4Xx2L2ZN0	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	(opensource.com)	Jan 28 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| My open source career as a systems librarian \| Opensource.com		Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvo	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/KT05WRXPr3	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvp	Jan 28 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Political parties favour openness to	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	reconstruct Greek productivity	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Zk1lGIyadK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvs	Jan 28 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Political parties favour openness to reconstruct Greek productivity \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 17:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS	Jan 28 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	Taking Over the World of IT	Jan 28 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/b6FH8aAGIB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdyw	Jan 28 18:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS Taking Over the World of IT \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 18:05
*TweetTuxMachines @DataHuge favourited '"A large amount of vendor software runs on...'		Jan 28 18:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Development with ARM mbed on Linux	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sGIURywrsA (www.linux.com)	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke8y	Jan 28 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Embedded Development with ARM mbed on Linux \| Linux.com		Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Humble Weekly Bundle: Je Suis Charlie Has Linux	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	Support and It Ends Tomorrow	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yJv4Muip9z (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke90	Jan 28 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Humble Weekly Bundle: Je Suis Charlie Has Linux Support and It Ends Tomorrow - Softpedia		Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Confessions of a systems librarian	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KmjApim21T (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke94	Jan 28 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Confessions of a systems librarian \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Development with ARM mbed on Linux	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PnsYHd2v61 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke98	Jan 28 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Embedded Development with ARM mbed on Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE 5 (Plasma 5.2.0) available for Slackware	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	-current http://t.co/hr7T5ESGLs	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke9c	Jan 28 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE 5 (Plasma 5.2.0) available for Slackware -current \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Huge Coffee Table Can Switch Between	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	Android and Windows, No Joke	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vrcsdvVq36 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke9d	Jan 28 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| This Huge Coffee Table Can Switch Between Android and Windows, No Joke \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 reasons Android can be better than the	Jan 28 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone	Jan 28 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/XYOtrJc19y (bgr.com)	Jan 28 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke9k	Jan 28 18:36
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5494601	Jan 28 18:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Power outages http://www.washingtonsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Squirrels.jpg		Jan 28 18:46
schestowitz	"I wonder why there is no war on squirrels, maybe it would be not profitable."	Jan 28 18:46
schestowitz	But inhumane	Jan 28 18:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/CfJMkWraGg	Jan 28 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkf29	Jan 28 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deploying tor relays http://t.co/GVKg9VlK5b	Jan 28 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkf2a	Jan 28 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Deploying tor relays \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 19:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Industrial box-PC takes Linux-on-Haswell to	Jan 28 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	extremes http://t.co/G7mgyQxtbT	Jan 28 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg0u	Jan 28 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Industrial box-PC takes Linux-on-Haswell to extremes \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Atomic Mode-Setting/Display Support Progresses	Jan 28 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	In Linux 3.20 http://t.co/QoLNzHdlCb	Jan 28 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg0w	Jan 28 21:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download	Jan 28 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Lots of Freeware http://t.co/Ej0ZDQwkmB	Jan 28 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux (www.howtogeek.com)	Jan 28 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com \| Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download Lots of Freeware		Jan 28 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg2j	Jan 28 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "A large amount of vendor software runs on	Jan 28 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux, so there’s plenty of systems	Jan 28 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux administration to do" http://t.co/x4Xx2L2ZN0	Jan 28 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	(opensource.com)	Jan 28 21:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg2k	Jan 28 21:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Kdenlive, the Linux video editor I want	Jan 28 22:21
TweetTuxMachines	to use http://t.co/KpzBKLD2xV	Jan 28 22:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 22:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkgx1	Jan 28 22:21
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5471266	Jan 28 22:37
schestowitz	"Okay, but that's a slightly different shade of the problem. Even under the BSD license, patent trolling is, ahem, an abuse."	Jan 28 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ‘It just works’? Not so for too many #Apple users http://www.infoworld.com/article/2873356/applications/for-too-many-apple-users-it-doesnt-just-work.html		Jan 28 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com \| ‘It just works’? Not so for too many Apple users \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jidud ]		Jan 28 22:38
schestowitz	"	Jan 28 22:38
schestowitz	I must now revise my opinion of Jobs and Gates. Their greatest achievement was warping our definition of "theft" and "stealing". When ordinary people make a library of a books, songs, or movies, they society thinks of them as thieves and pirates. The same society does not bat an eye when companies appropriate basic methods, math or look and feel. Copies that enrich the community are considered theft. Restrictions which dominate and	Jan 28 22:38
schestowitz	impoverish society are considered beneficial protection. This is an amazing double think.	Jan 28 22:38
schestowitz	Jobs used patents, trademarks, copyright, and trade secret to keep people from helping themselves.	Jan 28 22:38
schestowitz	"	Jan 28 22:38
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sebsebseb	MinceR: thing	Jan 28 23:02
sebsebseb	MinceR: ping even	Jan 28 23:02
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5497850	Jan 29 00:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Industrial box-PC takes Linux-on-Haswell to extremes http://linuxgizmos.com/industrial-box-pc-takes-linux-on-haswell-to-extremes/		Jan 29 00:14
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schestowitz	"+- $1000,- Nice box though! :)"	Jan 29 00:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560590244622635008 https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560590414038962176	Jan 29 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz Hmm, I didn't realize that when you said "culture" you meant to include organizations such as monastic orders.		Jan 29 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz It wouldn't surprise me to learn that boy monks in Tibet aren't allowed toy weapons. It would if they always obeyed, though.		Jan 29 00:15
schestowitz	Many toy guns are made in China but exported	Jan 29 00:15
sebsebseb	schestowitz: Did you see the Apple news?	Jan 29 00:18
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SteamersBaby/status/556828459197280256	Jan 29 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SteamersBaby: http://t.co/tjJ769Q6gk Pattens out of Greedy Gopher Guts masking as good ideas-check it out !! NO TTIP -Stop Distruction of Mother Earth !!		Jan 29 00:18
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/560591516461043713	Jan 29 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Open Source is better all-around; but still not "out of the woods" !!! Needs radically MUCH better LUCIDITY, Q.C. & s/w METHODS		Jan 29 00:19
sebsebseb	schestowitz: Richard Stallman yeah yeah, well tommoorwo as in FRiday	Jan 29 00:24
sebsebseb	I should be seeing him speak again	Jan 29 00:24
sebsebseb	,but in Brussels this time :)	Jan 29 00:24
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5498145	Jan 29 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Arab-American Group Asks 'American Sniper' Star And Director To Denounce Anti-Muslim Rhetoric http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/arab-american-group-calls-upon-clint-eastwood-and-bradley-cooper-denounce-anti-mulsim-rhe		Jan 29 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.opposingviews.com \| Arab-American Group Asks 'American Sniper' Star And Director To Denounce Anti-Muslim Rhetoric [ http://ur1.ca/jkiwt ]		Jan 29 01:00
schestowitz	"they learnd her lessons from'judsuess' propaganda movie :("	Jan 29 01:00
schestowitz	Directed at other groups	Jan 29 01:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5498077	Jan 29 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Basically, you can mark this day in the calendar as the official date for the death of Flash" http://news.softpedia.com/news/Youtube-Says-Goodbye-to-Flash-HTML5-Is-Now-Default-471426.shtml #adobe #youtube		Jan 29 01:00
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schestowitz	"Been requesting the HTML5 player on youtube for ages."	Jan 29 01:00
schestowitz	It works well now	Jan 29 01:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5497898	Jan 29 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Review: Kdenlive, the Linux video editor I want to use http://www.networkworld.com/article/2876381/opensource-subnet/review-kdenlive-the-linux-video-editor-i-want-to-use.html #kde #kdenlive #gnu #linux		Jan 29 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com \| Review: Kdenlive, the Linux video editor I want to use [ http://ur1.ca/jkict ]		Jan 29 01:01
schestowitz	"We'll definitely have to give this a shot. We've (my son and I) been suffering through Premiere Pro since Final Cut Pro went totally iMovie with its release of FCPX."	Jan 29 01:01
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/560606225327325184	Jan 29 01:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz EXCELLENT news! ALEC is big part of the corruption of USA Gov. & Congress. These corps have quit-- http://t.co/J2qFJcies5		Jan 29 01:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.sourcewatch.org \| Corporations that Have Cut Ties to ALEC - SourceWatch		Jan 29 01:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/560607418405490688	Jan 29 01:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Cold Case: Murder of Karen Silkwood by spooks. NYT forced HOLLYWOOD to censor the historic film to hide PLUTONIUM diversion.		Jan 29 01:21
msb_	How did the New York Times force censorship? IIRC, the missing Pu was given to IsraHell to start its nuclear bomb program.	Jan 29 01:59
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cubexyz	I hear Stallman is using a thinkpad these days	Jan 29 02:53
cubexyz	probably an x60 or t60	Jan 29 02:53
cubexyz	ah, here it is... Gluglug X60 laptop	Jan 29 02:55
cubexyz	a refurbished Lenovo Thinkpad	Jan 29 02:56
sebsebseb	cubexyz: well on Friday I get to see him speak agian	Jan 29 03:10
cubexyz	sebsebseb, where is that?	Jan 29 03:26
cubexyz	msb_, I'm actually a bit surprised a nuclear war didn't happen	Jan 29 03:30
cubexyz	when you consider the possibility of an accident...	Jan 29 03:31
msb_	cubexyz: There are a lot of safety circuits in those bombs, and if all the shaped-charges in the implosion ones don't fire at the same time, the core doesn't get compressed enough to detonate. At least that's how it was in a movie. 8^)	Jan 29 03:33
cubexyz	I feel much safer now	Jan 29 03:33
cubexyz	sort of :)	Jan 29 03:33
msb_	cubexyz: I hope the Russki ones are designed as carefully.	Jan 29 03:34
msb_	But right now, the US is apparently trying to start some kind of war with Russia, by supporting that Nazi coup in Ukraine. Things could get, er, interesting.	Jan 29 03:36
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cubexyz	things are interesting enough already	Jan 29 03:36
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msb_	cubexyz: Ever hear about the polio vaccines causing cancer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8FCJ_VPyns	Jan 29 03:41
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msb_	Sad, especially when Vitamin C was found to cure polio 100%. But the knowledge was suppressed because the drug companies couldn't make a profit from it. http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/4-Origin_Of_Vitamin_C_Treatment_For_Polio-Klenner.html	Jan 29 03:43
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msb_	http://portside.org/2015-01-29/germans-are-shock-new-greek-leader-starts-bang	Jan 29 09:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portside.org \| Germans Are in Shock As New Greek Leader Starts With A Bang \| Portside [ http://ur1.ca/jkpqz ]		Jan 29 09:41
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rhM1i43NK8	Jan 29 09:41
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msb_	.	Jan 29 10:02
msb_	http://portside.org/2015-01-28/internet-crowd-not-cloud	Jan 29 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portside.org \| An Internet in the Crowd, Not the Cloud \| Portside [ http://ur1.ca/jkq1y ]		Jan 29 10:02
msb_	Distributed "Web" hosting via browsers and bit-torrent type organization.	Jan 29 10:03
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cubexyz	ha, got the usb reset to work	Jan 29 13:18
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA	Jan 29 14:02
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cubexyz	the comments are priceless :)	Jan 29 14:09
msb_	Life is terrible here in central California. We don't get much snow, and now that we've eaten it all we're starving in our tents!	Jan 29 14:43
MinceR	maybe they'll let you into glorious north korea, though	Jan 29 14:44
MinceR	as a refugee	Jan 29 14:44
msb_	Yes, I so much would like all the benefits given by the Glorious Kim Jong Un!	Jan 29 14:45
MinceR	you could even eat tree bark	Jan 29 14:45
MinceR	which is a lot more delicious than birds.	Jan 29 14:45
msb_	The best are the food donations from North Korea!	Jan 29 14:46
MinceR	do you get those in california?	Jan 29 14:46
msb_	When we are lucky!	Jan 29 14:54
msb_	That movie The Interview about NK was pretty funny.	Jan 29 14:54
msb_	And it was even better to watch knowing that the glorious North Koreans stole it from the capitalist running dogs of Sony!	Jan 29 14:55
MinceR	:>	Jan 29 14:56
msb_	Sony deserved it for tying down the playstations so they couldn't be loaded with Socialist Linux!	Jan 29 14:58
MinceR	Red Flag Linux?	Jan 29 14:58
msb_	Glorious Socialist Linux!	Jan 29 14:59
msb_	Of course.	Jan 29 14:59
MinceR	or is that chinese?	Jan 29 14:59
msb_	Don't know. I just use the icons.	Jan 29 14:59
msb_	My local Chinese restaurant gets its fish from Vietnam. I sometimes test it with a geiger counter -- so far ok.	Jan 29 15:04
msb_	Every few months some people on the Net get hysterical about the radiation, but they show maps that are completely normal. I think they're confused.	Jan 29 15:07
msb_	Amazingly, K40 causes 4900 disintegrations per second inside every adult human body! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium-40	Jan 29 15:09
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MinceR	You are free to use any methods necessary but I want them alive - no disintegrations!	Jan 29 15:13
msb_	what, the potassium?	Jan 29 15:13
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MinceR	no :)	Jan 29 15:14
MinceR	http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/13951/why-does-vader-say-no-disintegration-to-boba-fett	Jan 29 15:15
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msb_	I actually eat KCl instead of NaCl to keep blood pressure lower. Maybe I glow in the dark!	Jan 29 15:15
msb_	Thus the Carbonite?	Jan 29 15:15
MinceR	i suppose so, though my memories are incomplete	Jan 29 15:16
msb_	Anyhow, Leia sure looked great in that bikini!	Jan 29 15:17
cubexyz	msb_, this guy is saying funvax is a hoax:	Jan 29 15:20
msb_	Somebody told me that too, but couldn't give proof.	Jan 29 15:21
msb_	The video looks authentic.	Jan 29 15:21
msb_	i.e., crappy	Jan 29 15:21
cubexyz	https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-funvax-pentagon-briefing-on-removing-the-god-gene.317/	Jan 29 15:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.metabunk.org \| Debunked: FunVax, Pentagon Briefing on Removing the God Gene \| Metabunk [ http://ur1.ca/jku0o ]		Jan 29 15:22
cubexyz	if it's a hoax, someone went to a lot of trouble	Jan 29 15:24
msb_	cubexyz: Thanks! The top and bottom brain slices are clearly the same -- matching fissures -- but the video says they're two different people, so it's lying.	Jan 29 15:30
cubexyz	ok, I figured it was a bit off	Jan 29 15:31
cubexyz	strange the things people do	Jan 29 15:31
msb_	the name "funvax" doesn't seem governmental either.	Jan 29 15:33
msb_	Weird if it drifted onto Israel and defanaticized the zionists!	Jan 29 15:35
cubexyz	I'm not a virulogist but that does seem a bit implausible :)	Jan 29 15:35
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cubexyz	er, virologist	Jan 29 15:37
msb_	I read years ago about govt attempts to make a virus/vaccine to inactivate the pleasure center of the brain so people wouldn't want heroin or cocaine.	Jan 29 15:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560851391628193793 https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560852032924692480	Jan 29 17:35
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560851391628193793 https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560852032924692480	Jan 29 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz How does that question even make sense? Hubbert's peak pertains to the derivative of logistic extraction.		Jan 29 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz (And, given the last six years, it seems like the logistic function is maybe a lousy fit to oil extraction on a decade scale.)		Jan 29 17:36
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5497904	Jan 29 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: These Are the Hottest New Open Source Projects Right Now http://www.wired.com/2015/01/black-duck-rookies/ #freesw		Jan 29 17:43
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schestowitz	"I'd take a closer look at MaidSafe before Storj."	Jan 29 17:43
DaemonFC	MinceR, Got any bird rations, comrade?	Jan 29 18:18
DaemonFC	I'll trade you some delicious snow coffe.	Jan 29 18:18
DaemonFC	*coffee	Jan 29 18:18
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MinceR	DaemonFC`: got some from KFC yesterday :>	Jan 29 19:45
MinceR	but i ate it already	Jan 29 19:45
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jgay	schestowitz, did you see our latest annoucnement? http://www.fsf.org/news/libreboot-x200-laptop-now-fsf-certified-to-respect-your-freedom	Jan 29 22:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org \| Libreboot X200 laptop now FSF-certified to respect your freedom — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/jkymj ]		Jan 29 22:42
jgay	also if you see it appear on reddit or hacker news or wherever could you let me know so I can try to be engaging in a timely manner in those places	Jan 29 22:43
msb_		Jan 29 22:43
msb_	jgay	Jan 29 22:43
jgay	msb_, huh?	Jan 29 22:44
msb_	jgay: Can it decode and play DVDs?	Jan 29 22:44
msb_	I don't know how FSF feels about the DVD decryption library.	Jan 29 22:45
msb_	Hopefully it will run Devuan when that's ready.	Jan 29 22:46
jgay	msb_, I don't know, it ships with Trisquel GNU/Linux, you can check on their site probably	Jan 29 22:48
msb_	jgay: I hope RMS and FSF will come out against systemd eventually.	Jan 29 22:49
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schestowitz	jgay: yes, my wife put that at tux machines as soon as she saw that in her fsf rss feed	Jan 30 01:35
schestowitz	I will post that later in some social networks	Jan 30 01:35
schestowitz	I was at work	Jan 30 01:35
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jgay	schestowitz, cool!	Jan 30 01:56
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cubexyz	I see coreboot supports Lenovo X200 now	Jan 30 03:45
cubexyz	things are really improving now	Jan 30 03:48
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DaemonFC	<msb_> jgay: I hope RMS and FSF will come out against systemd eventually.	Jan 30 07:52
DaemonFC	Why? It's foss.	Jan 30 07:52
msb_	DaemonFC: It's evil. It violates Unix/Linux design principles of simplicity, modularity, human-readable data. It churns the code of apps. It gives one or two people too much control over Linux systems.	Jan 30 07:54
msb_	There is much more evil in the world than people realize. It is concealed by its perpetrators. 9-11 and other false-flag attacks. The financing and arming of Hitler by 75% by some major US businessmen.	Jan 30 07:58
msb_	The denial and suppression of the ability of Vitamin C to cure viral diseases. The terrible side effects of vaccines. The huge inequality of wealth.	Jan 30 07:59
msb_	There's no reason for systemd to be designed the way it is, with the negative effects that that design has. That suggests it is designed that way for an evil reason. Fascist govts (and Microsoft) want to control or destroy Linux.	Jan 30 08:01
msb_	All the evils I've listed here are real. They are done by conspiracy -- i.e. secretly -- but they are NOT theories. There is plenty of proof for them all (except the real purpose of systemd).	Jan 30 08:03
msb_	DaemonFC: Are you there?	Jan 30 08:04
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 30 08:05
DaemonFC	I can't see how systemd harms things at all.	Jan 30 08:05
DaemonFC	If it did, someone could fork it. Apparently, nobody thinks it's worth doing that.	Jan 30 08:06
msb_	Read my website cosmicpenguin.com 911, Vitamin C, financing of Hitler by US businessmen are all well covered.	Jan 30 08:06
msb_	Devuan is forking Debian to get rid of it. Others are working on other means.	Jan 30 08:06
msb_	Bad design causes harm when things go wrong and have to be understood and repaired.	Jan 30 08:07
msb_	Bad design can be used to hide backdoors.	Jan 30 08:07
msb_	Good design is the main advantage of Unix/Linux.	Jan 30 08:08
MinceR	forking won't help, the design itself is broken	Jan 30 08:09
MinceR	that is, forking of systemd	Jan 30 08:10
MinceR	systemd is doing something that isn't worth doing	Jan 30 08:10
msb_	Right. Devuan is a fork of Debian that won't use systemd.	Jan 30 08:10
msb_	I have a lot of links to anti-systemd sites, but they are all in my browser bookmarks. I have to put them on my websites.	Jan 30 08:12
msb_	Also anti-vaccine links. I need to use some kind of	Jan 30 08:13
msb_	CMS so I can add stuff more easily. 8^)	Jan 30 08:13
msb_	Now it's just sed in bash scripts.	Jan 30 08:14
msb_	Someone in #trisquel told me it uses upstart, not systemd.	Jan 30 08:15
msb_	MinceR: From the little I know, the only worthwhile thing systemd does is deal with asynchronous events involving I/O gear, and there are much better ways of doing that.	Jan 30 08:16
msb_	The dozens of attacks by capitalist nations against socialist ones is another great evil.	Jan 30 08:18
msb_	Zionism and the attacks on Palestine. What all these have in common is robbing and controlling people. Psychopath behavior.	Jan 30 08:19
msb_	There's something going on in the US, being investigated by Janet Phelan and others.	Jan 30 08:20
msb_	Forced legal conservatorship of elderly people, and their subsequent robbery and murder. Corrupt judges and govt regulators are in on it.	Jan 30 08:21
msb_	http://janetphelan.com/	Jan 30 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-janetphelan.com \| Janet Phelan - Reporter at Large		Jan 30 08:22
msb_	vaccinated children having 120% more asthma, 317% more ADHD, 185% more neurological disorders and 146% more autism than those not vaccinated	Jan 30 08:27
msb_	A review at: http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-nation-Poisoning-Population-Shot-Time/dp/0984595422/	Jan 30 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com \| Vaccine-nation: Poisoning the Population, One Shot at a Time: Andreas Moritz: 9780984595426: Amazon.com: Books [ http://ur1.ca/jl5xu ]		Jan 30 08:28
msb_	It's to the advantage of evil govts and others to mess up the brains of people so they have difficulty detecting and dealing with the various evils, such as the enormous wealth inequality of capitalism.	Jan 30 08:29
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DaemonFC	Devuan will probably run out of steam and disappear.	Jan 30 09:10
DaemonFC	That's what tends to happen when not enough people find a fork useful.	Jan 30 09:10
msb_	DaemonFC: There are a lot of people who dislike systemd. Trinity desktop is still going strong because a lot of people don't like KDE4. I think there are some 50,000,000 Linux users. It only takes a few hundred to support a project, maybe a few thousand.	Jan 30 09:24
msb_	Hopefully the Devuan folks will follow the path of least effort -- utilize the Debian repos, change only what needs to be changed, etc. So they won't get overworked and exhausted.	Jan 30 09:28
msb_	DaemonFC: I think it's helpful to be optimistic. It leads to one saying and doing things that bring about a good future.	Jan 30 09:33
MinceR	msb_: trisquel uses whatever the ubuntu release it's based on uses	Jan 30 11:39
MinceR	> http://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/01/30/250bfbf5621b2f37.gif	Jan 30 11:39
MinceR	> Must be a catholic toy	Jan 30 11:39
msb_	MinceR: Yes, which I'm told (on #trisquel) is upstart.	Jan 30 11:41
msb_	MinceR: Why catholic?	Jan 30 11:41
MinceR	their priests are most famous for pedophilia and for protecting pedophiles from prosecution	Jan 30 11:44
msb_	Ah, yes.	Jan 30 11:44
MinceR	it's upstart now, but may not be in the next release.	Jan 30 11:44
msb_	Ick.	Jan 30 11:44
MinceR	also, geekings	Jan 30 11:45
msb_	MinceR: I hope the popular turn to socialism in Greece meets with your approval.	Jan 30 11:46
MinceR	i'm not sure what is meant by "turn to socialism" in this case	Jan 30 11:46
MinceR	so i'll just have to wait and see what happens.	Jan 30 11:46
msb_	They elected a socialist party with a good majority.	Jan 30 11:47
msb_	...Which is opposed to more "austerity" which means robbing the people to give money to the rich.	Jan 30 11:49
MinceR	that seems to be the point in greece	Jan 30 11:53
MinceR	that is, stopping "austerity"	Jan 30 11:53
msb_	yes. Capitalism is designed to have people work hard with little return, with the profits going to the rich.	Jan 30 11:54
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM	Jan 30 11:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Wealth Inequality in America - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/hb2ci ]		Jan 30 11:55
MinceR	like that takes a lot of design	Jan 30 11:57
msb_	It's taken hundreds of years.	Jan 30 11:58
msb_	A major factor is making working people believe that they aren't exploited slaves.	Jan 30 11:58
MinceR	actually in most human societies the powerful exploit the masses	Jan 30 11:59
MinceR	including most countries that call themselves "socialist", "communist", "people	Jan 30 11:59
MinceR	including most countries that call themselves "socialist", "communist", "people's republic", etc.	Jan 30 11:59
MinceR	i'm not sure if there's any human society that has no such exploitation	Jan 30 12:00
msb_	One way that's done is by convincing them that their ownership of private property -- their little home and car -- is equivalent to wealthy people owning factories and farms worth many millions of dollars.	Jan 30 12:00
MinceR	another way it's done is by convincing workers to ignore the dictator and the Inner Party and believe that everyone else is equal.	Jan 30 12:00
msb_	Truly democratic socialism, and social democracy, as in	Jan 30 12:01
msb_	scandinavia, do pretty well.	Jan 30 12:01
msb_	Socialism does not have to have a dictator. It can be democratic.	Jan 30 12:01
msb_	A major way that people are convinced to accept dictators is via commercial media. That's where the Internet and *Linux* can help a lot.	Jan 30 12:03
msb_	The Marxian idea of a "vanguard party" turned out to be a poor one, susceptible to psychopath takeover.	Jan 30 12:05
msb_	But the Soviet Union might have worked out a lot better if it hadn't been immediately attacked and invaded by armies of the capitalist nations which murdered millions.	Jan 30 12:12
msb_	That made the people willing to accept dictatorship and work hard to armor up instead of getting a better standard of living.	Jan 30 12:13
msb_	The same with the later invasion by the Nazis, which murdered I think 20 million Russians. That was 75% paid for by the wealthy of the U.	Jan 30 12:14
msb_	U.S.	Jan 30 12:14
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis	Jan 30 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Human Society That Works For Everyone		Jan 30 12:15
msb_	These attacks also motivated the leaders of the SU to have a line of "buffer states" around Russia. One of which was yours.	Jan 30 12:16
MinceR	somehow it's always someone else's fault	Jan 30 12:25
MinceR	never the russians'	Jan 30 12:25
MinceR	interesting	Jan 30 12:25
MinceR	then again, that's what cognitive dissonance does, i guess	Jan 30 12:26
msb_	It's not a matter of "fault". When people are struggling against murderous invaders, the first thing they attend to is survival -- staying alive.	Jan 30 12:32
msb_	If they had not built up a strong military, they would have all been slaughtered.	Jan 30 12:33
msb_	The wealthy capitalists wanted to destroy socialism because it would eliminate their huge profits.	Jan 30 12:34
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/	Jan 30 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Microsoft to invest in Cyanogen, which hopes to take Android from Google \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jkxi8 ]		Jan 30 12:34
msb_	So they used military mass murder to do it.	Jan 30 12:34
DaemonFC	uh oh	Jan 30 12:34
msb_	Is Android private propitty, or can anyone use it without paying?	Jan 30 12:36
DaemonFC	Most of it is open source.	Jan 30 12:36
DaemonFC	Some Google apps and Google Play Services are proprietary.	Jan 30 12:37
msb_	So Microshit and Cyanogen can't seize Android and prevent people from using it?	Jan 30 12:39
MinceR	yes, people are always struggling against murderous invaders, never against murderous dictators	Jan 30 12:39
MinceR	murderous dictators are the best thing people can have and they know it!	Jan 30 12:40
msb_	cyanogen is very toxic, as it readily undergoes reduction to cyanide, which poisons the cytochrome c oxidase complex -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanogen	Jan 30 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Cyanogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Jan 30 12:40
msb_	MinceR: That doesn't make any sense.	Jan 30 12:41
MinceR	indeed what you're saying doesn't make any sense.	Jan 30 12:41
MinceR	most of the time, anyway.	Jan 30 12:41
msb_	How are "murderous dictators the best thing people can have" ?	Jan 30 12:42
msb_	And what did I say that doesn't make sense?	Jan 30 12:42
msb_	MinceR: Do you realize that personal attacks without any facts to back them up don't accomplish anything?	Jan 30 12:50
MinceR	do you realize that nonsense communist propaganda that is completely divorced from reality doesn't accomplish anything?	Jan 30 12:50
msb_	Sure. And when have I written any?	Jan 30 12:51
msb_	Please cite actual examples.	Jan 30 12:51
MinceR	several times, including the last hour	Jan 30 12:51
msb_	Please cite actual examples.	Jan 30 12:52
MinceR	and no, i'm not going to copypaste what you just said.	Jan 30 12:52
msb_	Why not? It's because your accusation is false.	Jan 30 12:52
msb_	MinceR: You said that I wrote "nonsense communist propaganda that is completely divorced from reality". Why won't you prove that statement by quoting the alleged propaganda that you say I wrote.	Jan 30 12:56
msb_	MinceR: The answer is that you can't, because I didn't write any.	Jan 30 12:57
MinceR	because i'm not going to contribute to your crapflooding of this channel with insane propaganda	Jan 30 12:57
msb_	That's a bullshit excuse for your lying.	Jan 30 12:58
DaemonFC	"Right To Work" has backfired in Indiana.	Jan 30 13:00
msb_	MinceR: It always comes down to the same thing: You're so angry about past Russian domination of Hungary and present Orban fascism that you are unable to think or write rationally and logically about economic and political systems.	Jan 30 13:00
DaemonFC	Union membership has gone from 9.3% of workers to 10.6% of workers since the law was passed in 2012.	Jan 30 13:00
msb_	DaemonFC: That's a good beginning!	Jan 30 13:01
MinceR	msb_: worshipping putler because he comes from a regime that had some good-sounding slogans (which they ignored, of course) is not "rational" or "logical", it's idiotic.	Jan 30 13:01
MinceR	(good-sounding to you, that is.)	Jan 30 13:02
DaemonFC	msb_, I'm glad to see it rising again after decades of decline.	Jan 30 13:02
DaemonFC	Hopefully, the trend continues and bids wages back up.	Jan 30 13:02
msb_	MinceR: I have never worshipped Putin, who should not be called "putler" because he is not a fascist. I've said that the BRICS nations are opposing US fascist domination of the planet.	Jan 30 13:03
MinceR	yes, you've said a lot of things that have nothing to do with reality	Jan 30 13:03
MinceR	including that one	Jan 30 13:03
msb_	MinceR: Would you read articles about the BRICS nations opposing US fascist domination of the planet if I showed you some?	Jan 30 13:04
DaemonFC	Russia is going to be in some real trouble when their dollar reserves finally run out.	Jan 30 13:04
DaemonFC	They need dollars to bail out their corporations and banks.	Jan 30 13:05
DaemonFC	Eventually they'll have to bail the government itself out, and the only thing that will do that will be creating more rubles, which will intensify inflation.	Jan 30 13:05
msb_	DaemonFC: Well, they have a lot of oil, gas, and gold, and can sell it to the other BRICS nations.	Jan 30 13:05
MinceR	msb_: go bother (and highlight) someone else with your fascist propaganda.	Jan 30 13:05
MinceR	DaemonFC: well, they shouldn't have started a pointless war while their economy stood on so few legs.	Jan 30 13:06
DaemonFC	With oil below $60 a barrel, that sector can't continue to subsidize everything else.	Jan 30 13:06
MinceR	they should have considered themselves lucky for getting away with a lot less than nazi germany.	Jan 30 13:06
DaemonFC	Russia doesn't have an economy so much as they have oil and natural gas.	Jan 30 13:07
MinceR	indeed	Jan 30 13:07
msb_	Russia didn't start this war. The US and EU did, by backing a Nazi takeover of Ukraine.	Jan 30 13:07
DaemonFC	Russia launched an unprovoked attack and invasion.	Jan 30 13:08
MinceR	also, putler should have looked for a better way to justify his rule than pointless conquest adventures.	Jan 30 13:08
DaemonFC	Just like when they seized part of Georgia.	Jan 30 13:08
MinceR	indeed.	Jan 30 13:08
msb_	You've forgotten the Maidan coup?	Jan 30 13:08
MinceR	for example, he could have instead worked to drag russia into the 21th century.	Jan 30 13:08
msb_	http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca \| The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine \| Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ]		Jan 30 13:09
DaemonFC	I'm perfectly happy to sit back and watch Russia's economy fall apart. They deserve it.	Jan 30 13:11
MinceR	same here	Jan 30 13:12
msb_	DaemonFC: Why?	Jan 30 13:12
DaemonFC	I hope that the oil and gas prices stay low long enough to run Russia out of foreign currency reserves. Then things will get very interesting.	Jan 30 13:12
MinceR	i just hope they don't invite the russian army into hungary before that happens	Jan 30 13:12
MinceR	or into poland	Jan 30 13:12
msb_	Do you want to see the US murder more millions of people as it did in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya?	Jan 30 13:13
msb_	Did either of you read that article whose url I just posted?	Jan 30 13:13
DaemonFC	MinceR, Within about 6-9 months, Russia will exhaust their entire supply of US dollars.	Jan 30 13:15
MinceR	DaemonFC: that would be nice	Jan 30 13:15
msb_	Do you want the US to invade Russia and start a nuclear war?	Jan 30 13:17
MinceR	hopefully that will not be necessary	Jan 30 13:17
MinceR	also, russia is far more likely to start a nuclear war	Jan 30 13:18
DaemonFC	The United States is unlikely to start a nuclear war.	Jan 30 13:18
msb_	http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 13:19
DaemonFC	It's not an unstable country with an economy that is falling apart.	Jan 30 13:19
cubexyz	unix v6 lives on... it's been ported to phones in China	Jan 30 13:32
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DaemonFC	MinceR, I grabbed the wrong kind of soap at the store.	Jan 30 14:03
DaemonFC	Now, every time I take a shower, I smell like flowers. :/	Jan 30 14:03
DaemonFC	I wonder if they could have possibly made the scent any stronger. It smells like bad perfume.	Jan 30 14:04
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MinceR	DaemonFC: lol	Jan 30 14:31
MinceR	doesn't sound like an issue, if it's just flowers	Jan 30 14:32
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MinceR	then again, i take showers with shower gel, not soap :>	Jan 30 14:32
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DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Day_in_the_Strife	Jan 30 15:17
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DaemonFC	I liked that episode. The twist ending was good.	Jan 30 15:17
DaemonFC	Turns out that the probe was designed to explode if you replied to it with the correct answers to wipe out any civilization that was advanced enough to threaten the builders of the probe.	Jan 30 15:17
MinceR	:)	Jan 30 15:18
DaemonFC	So they wait until it's leaving and relay the answers through a maintenance bot that's far enough away from the station so that it will explode and not threaten anyone else.	Jan 30 15:20
*DaemonFC remembers almost all of these and hasn't seen them in 20 years.		Jan 30 15:21
DaemonFC	http://wane.com/2015/01/30/report-ranks-top-10-deadliest-vehicles/	Jan 30 17:15
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DaemonFC	I commented.	Jan 30 17:15
DaemonFC	"I would have thought that more GM vehicles would be on this list since I've never owned a GM vehicle that worked right. When I owned a 1995 Corsica, it had the ignition switch problem. I paid to have the ignition switch replaced out of my own pocket back in 2004 after it shut itself off on me several times, both while I was on highways/freeways, or just trying to get to the grocery store. Truly horrible cars. I'm a proud Ford owner now. GM	Jan 30 17:15
DaemonFC	can keep their garbage. The best place to park a GM car is at the crushers. I could have just as easily been another person who had their Chevy turn itself off who left the scene of the accident in a body bag."	Jan 30 17:16
MinceR	http://conal.net/blog/posts/the-c-language-is-purely-functional	Jan 30 17:22
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 30 17:24
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Jan 30 17:24
DaemonFC	WANE ran a story about negligent parents who don't get their kids vaccinated and about half the people who commented are those triple damned anti-vaxxer idiots.	Jan 30 17:24
DaemonFC	I don't have anything to be afraid of because I got my vaccines. I got the MMR in 1996.	Jan 30 17:24
DaemonFC	I wonder when there will finally be an outbreak of Rubella. It swells the testicles and leaves the male survivors unable to reproduce.	Jan 30 17:24
DaemonFC	Parents who don't vaccinate their children are Darwinian Evolution in action.	Jan 30 17:24
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msb_	DaemonFC: The "triple damned anti-vaxxer idiots" turn out to be right. MMR does cause autism.	Jan 30 19:27
MinceR	according to the anti-vaxxer idiots	Jan 30 19:28
MinceR	and nobody else.	Jan 30 19:28
MinceR	"oh noes, there's a mercury atom in that molecule! the sky is falling!"	Jan 30 19:28
MinceR	chemistry does not work that way.	Jan 30 19:28
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DaemonFC	MinceR, You forgot "triple damned".	Jan 30 19:29
DaemonFC	That's an important part.	Jan 30 19:29
MinceR	damnation is not that much of a deal for me	Jan 30 19:29
msb_	DaemonFC: MinceR: http://www.naturalnews.com/046614_cdc_whistleblower_vaccine_cover-up_criminal_investigation.html	Jan 30 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.naturalnews.com \| Natural News EXCLUSIVE: Bombshell email from CDC whistleblower reveals criminality of vaccine cover-up as far back as 2002 - NaturalNews.com [ http://ur1.ca/jlcgn ]		Jan 30 19:30
msb_	http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/27/health/irpt-cdc-autism-vaccine-study/	Jan 30 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnn.com \| Journal questions validity of autism and vaccine study - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/jlch1 ]		Jan 30 19:31
DaemonFC	I have all of the vaccines that CDC recommends.	Jan 30 19:33
DaemonFC	I'm due for a tetanus booster. I should schedule that.	Jan 30 19:33
msb_	"CDC's own data revealing a 340% increased risk of autism in African-American children following the MMR vaccine"	Jan 30 19:33
DaemonFC	Richard Stallman commented on this form of scare tactic the other day.	Jan 30 19:34
DaemonFC	When he was linking to an article debunking the connection between birth control pills and cancer.	Jan 30 19:34
MinceR	anti-vaxxer idiotism has already caused outbreaks of long-mostly-gone diseases recently	Jan 30 19:34
DaemonFC	You can double a minuscule risk and have it still be a minuscule risk, if the statistics are even correct at all to begin with.	Jan 30 19:35
DaemonFC	And putting yourself at risk for measles, mumps, and rubella is worse than the potential risk from getting the MMR.	Jan 30 19:35
msb_	It's long been known that both the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines contained oncogenic monkey viruses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8FCJ_VPyns	Jan 30 19:35
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msb_	These caused many millions of cancers.	Jan 30 19:36
DaemonFC	Measles, mumps, and rubella are highly contagious and can cause death or severe and permanent injury.	Jan 30 19:36
DaemonFC	I'd rather take the 1 in a million chance of having a negative reaction to a vaccine.	Jan 30 19:36
msb_	Vitamin C instantly cures measles.	Jan 30 19:36
DaemonFC	Oh fucking bullshit.	Jan 30 19:36
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine#Autism_claims	Jan 30 19:37
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msb_	Read the article I just posted.	Jan 30 19:37
DaemonFC	MinceR, The very very small risk of an adverse reaction to a vaccine has mostly to do with egg allergies.	Jan 30 19:37
MinceR	http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-vaccination_movement#Thiomersal	Jan 30 19:37
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DaemonFC	The flu shots used at Walgreens have no thiomersal in them anyway.	Jan 30 19:38
DaemonFC	How can you be harmed by something that is not in the injection to begin with?	Jan 30 19:38
msb_	Vitamin C cured all the cases of polio that Dr Klenner used it on.	Jan 30 19:39
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/4-Origin_Of_Vitamin_C_Treatment_For_Polio-Klenner.html	Jan 30 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| 4 - Origin Of Vitamin C Treatment For Polio - Klenner [ http://ur1.ca/jkkzs ]		Jan 30 19:39
MinceR	so we should just take Klenner's word for it?	Jan 30 19:39
DaemonFC	Taking a bunch of vitamin C only results in two things.	Jan 30 19:39
DaemonFC	Money wasted and diarrhea.	Jan 30 19:39
msb_	But info about his work was censored from medical media.	Jan 30 19:39
DaemonFC	If you're already sick, giving yourself diarrhea is probably not going to help.	Jan 30 19:40
msb_	All those people didn't have to die from cancer from SV40 from polio vaccines.	Jan 30 19:40
MinceR	http://youtu.be/yJD1Iwy5lUY?t=45s	Jan 30 19:42
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msb_	Here's how Vitamin C works against all viral infections it's been used on: http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/2-How_Vitamin_C_Works-Cathcart-with_summary.html	Jan 30 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| 2 - How Vitamin C Works - Cathcart - with summary [ http://ur1.ca/hc247 ]		Jan 30 19:42
MinceR	and the reason none of this makes into peer-reviewed papers is because of the conspiracy, right? :>	Jan 30 19:43
msb_	Drug companies can't make any money by selling C. It's not patentable.	Jan 30 19:44
MinceR	i wonder why drug companies sell vitamin C, then	Jan 30 19:45
MinceR	if not for the money	Jan 30 19:45
msb_	Links to more articles on Vitamin C at bottom of this page: http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/	Jan 30 19:47
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msb_	Vaccines make them far more money.	Jan 30 19:47
MinceR	so, "far less money" is "no money", now?	Jan 30 19:48
MinceR	making generics must be another hobby for them...	Jan 30 19:48
msb_	Also vaccines make many sick for life with chronic diseases. That's a real jackpot for big pharma.	Jan 30 19:48
msb_	If vaccines are so effective, why are morons like you so angry with those who don't get vaccinated? You're protected, right?	Jan 30 19:51
msb_	I say "morons" because you never read the info I post.	Jan 30 19:52
msb_	So you never learn anything.	Jan 30 19:52
msb_	All you know is what the govt and corporate media tell you.	Jan 30 19:52
msb_	Same as with Ukraine.	Jan 30 19:52
MinceR	they might not be 100	Jan 30 19:54
MinceR	% effective	Jan 30 19:54
MinceR	you moron.	Jan 30 19:55
MinceR	all you believe to know is what nutcases without a clue tell you	Jan 30 19:55
MinceR	you're incapable of critical thinking.	Jan 30 19:55
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnxAsrAK2hw	Jan 30 19:55
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msb_	The first step in critical thinking is to realize that what you currently believe may not be accurate.	Jan 30 19:56
msb_	The second step is to access information that disagrees with what you currently believe, and check and see whether it may be correct.	Jan 30 19:57
MinceR	so, when will you realize that?	Jan 30 19:58
MinceR	also, what turned medical journals into "govt and corporate media"?	Jan 30 19:58
msb_	Calling people whose beliefs differ from your own "nutcases", and refusing to access the info they present, guarantees that if you've been misinformed you will never learn the truth.	Jan 30 19:59
msb_	Medical journals get their money from drug company advertisements.	Jan 30 19:59
MinceR	as opposed to calling people whose beliefs differ from your own "morons", "fascists", etc. because...?	Jan 30 19:59
MinceR	iirc you started the name calling, so you don't get to complain about it	Jan 30 20:00
msb_	You have never learned the meanings of "fascist" and "socialist", and it looks like you never will.	Jan 30 20:00
MinceR	looks more like you never have	Jan 30 20:01
msb_	I said "moron" because you never read the info that differs from your beliefs. I was wrong to do that. I should have said "intentional ignoramus" instead.	Jan 30 20:02
MinceR	since a while ago pretended that "socialism" can be democratic, but nowadays you're propping up putin as some sort of socialist ideal	Jan 30 20:02
MinceR	if you believe you're the only one around with access to thesauri, you're (again) mistaken.	Jan 30 20:02
msb_	MinceR: You are lying as usual. I have never said that Putin is ideal.	Jan 30 20:03
MinceR	you have reading comprehension issues	Jan 30 20:03
msb_	But he is opposing the US fascists who have slaughtered millions and destroyed several nations since 2001.	Jan 30 20:03
MinceR	so, if 3 groups of fascists oppose each other, does that make your brain explode?	Jan 30 20:04
MinceR	are you incapable of recognizing that not all conflict is Good vs. Evil?	Jan 30 20:04
msb_	MinceR: You equate fascism and socialism, which guarantees that you won't be able to understand what's going on in the world.	Jan 30 20:04
MinceR	yes, different symbols and slogan make fascism all different	Jan 30 20:05
msb_	The use of the word "fascism" to mean "authoritarianism" makes understanding impossible.	Jan 30 20:05
MinceR	no, it's reasonably common	Jan 30 20:05
MinceR	good thing changing the meaning of "socialism", "communism" and related words every second doesn't make understanding difficult at all	Jan 30 20:06
msb_	Yes it is, and the resulting inability to understand is common because of that.	Jan 30 20:06
msb_	I don't change those meanings.	Jan 30 20:06
MinceR	the resulting inability to understand what? that putin's dictatorship is preferable to western democracy?	Jan 30 20:06
MinceR	you did change those meanings.	Jan 30 20:07
msb_	How?	Jan 30 20:07
MinceR	or you're utterly confused about them.	Jan 30 20:07
MinceR	i've already explained.	Jan 30 20:07
msb_	Give quotes from me.	Jan 30 20:07
MinceR	socialist ideals vs. the practice of USSR and putin's russia.	Jan 30 20:07
msb_	USSR employed authoritarian socialism.	Jan 30 20:08
msb_	Nicaragua uses democratic socialism.	Jan 30 20:08
msb_	There is little actual democracy in the US, because the wealthy control both parties, and two parties is all we have.	Jan 30 20:09
MinceR	no, it's not all you have	Jan 30 20:09
MinceR	it's all you're willing to vote for	Jan 30 20:10
MinceR	there's a difference.	Jan 30 20:10
MinceR	and it's connected to your earlier idea	Jan 30 20:10
msb_	It's all the corporate media talk about, so nobody votes for the others.	Jan 30 20:10
MinceR	most people consider one party to be the epitome of good and they deduce this from the other being evil.	Jan 30 20:10
msb_	And since the elections are winner-take-all instead of parliamentary, voting for others, e.g., socialists, doesn't bring any of them into govt.	Jan 30 20:11
MinceR	oh, and from them being opposed to each other.	Jan 30 20:11
MinceR	voting for others would show in the statistics, reinforcing the value of voting for them	Jan 30 20:11
msb_	Yes, you're right about that.	Jan 30 20:11
MinceR	and as you said, the two big parties don't differ from each other that much	Jan 30 20:12
msb_	Yes.	Jan 30 20:12
msb_	They are both basically fascist.	Jan 30 20:12
msb_	Neither offers worker ownership.	Jan 30 20:12
MinceR	i wouldn't want to own workers anyway. :>	Jan 30 20:13
msb_	Neither offers worker ownership of factories, farms, etc.	Jan 30 20:14
MinceR	neither prevents it either	Jan 30 20:14
msb_	The result is this enormous inequality of wealth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM	Jan 30 20:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Wealth Inequality in America - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/hb2ci ]		Jan 30 20:14
msb_	The total censorship of socialism and social democracy from US corporate media results in few people knowing about them. That does effectively prevent it. It's a form of mind-control.	Jan 30 20:16
msb_	Most people in the US think that the view of the world given them by the corporate (wealthy-controlled) media is the way reality really is.	Jan 30 20:17
msb_	But it's not.	Jan 30 20:18
msb_	That view is like "The Matrix" in the movie. Total illusion.	Jan 30 20:18
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality	Jan 30 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jlczz ]		Jan 30 20:18
MinceR	the USA is not the only country with significant wealth inequality	Jan 30 20:19
msb_	Of course not.	Jan 30 20:19
msb_	Every capitalist country will have that.	Jan 30 20:19
MinceR	in fact, for the socialist paradise you're painting Nicaragua as, it has a higher Gini as Japan, Poland or Canada	Jan 30 20:19
msb_	Gini is deceptive. You have to look at a histogram of wealth.	Jan 30 20:20
MinceR	(and so does Venezuela)	Jan 30 20:21
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM	Jan 30 20:24
msb_	The enormous amount of wealth owned by the richest 1% in the US will falsely increase the per-capita wealth figure.	Jan 30 20:25
msb_	Per-capita wealth is total wealth divided by total population size.	Jan 30 20:25
msb_	But the histogram -- see the video I just posted -- show that the great majority of people have little wealth. It's almost all concentrated with the richest.	Jan 30 20:26
msb_	Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa, because Qadaffi share the oil revenues with the people. That's why the US murdered him and destroyed that country.	Jan 30 20:28
msb_	*shared	Jan 30 20:29
MinceR	this video has no histogram of wealth about any supposed socialist paradises you mentioned	Jan 30 20:29
MinceR	it does say, however, that 92% of people want a more equal distribution of wealth	Jan 30 20:29
MinceR	maybe someone should build a campaign on that, then	Jan 30 20:29
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM shows a histogram of wealth in the US.	Jan 30 20:30
MinceR	ooh, now qadaffi is a saint too	Jan 30 20:30
MinceR	this is getting better and better.	Jan 30 20:30
MinceR	i can hardly wait for you to canonicalize Saint Kim Jong Un.	Jan 30 20:30
msb_	He was a good guy who used the oil income to benefit the people.	Jan 30 20:30
MinceR	yes it does, but shows nothing to compare it to.	Jan 30 20:31
msb_	MinceR: You are constantly using straw-man lies.	Jan 30 20:31
MinceR	i wonder if you would believe that if you lived in one of those dictatorships you keep advertising	Jan 30 20:31
MinceR	you should contemplate the relative amount of wealth controlled by the dictator and their close associates in such a country	Jan 30 20:32
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek	Jan 30 20:32
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MinceR	here's a hint: they own the country.	Jan 30 20:32
msb_	So you claim. But Libya had the highest standard of living of any African nation.	Jan 30 20:34
msb_	Until the US destroyed it with a military invasion and mass murder.	Jan 30 20:35
MinceR	so you claim	Jan 30 20:36
msb_	Watch that video. The one you call "the dictator" rides through Tripoli in an open car without protection.	Jan 30 20:36
MinceR	also, Gini is exactly about the shape of the histogram you're talking about	Jan 30 20:36
msb_	It's a number between 0 and 1.	Jan 30 20:36
MinceR	so?	Jan 30 20:37
MinceR	(actually it isn't but never mind)	Jan 30 20:37
MinceR	also, they loved gaddafi so much they overturned him in a revolution	Jan 30 20:37
msb_	So it can't possibly accurately represent the enormous wealthy inequality of, e.g., 1% owning 99% of the wealth, and 99% of the people collectively owning only 1%.	Jan 30 20:38
MinceR	i see, your maths education is also sorely lacking	Jan 30 20:38
msb_	The US finds some murderous fascist party and arms and finances it, thus creating an anti-human "revolution".	Jan 30 20:38
msb_	"your maths education is also sorely lacking" -- in what way?	Jan 30 20:39
MinceR	there are the same amount of real numbers between 0 and 1 as on the whole number line	Jan 30 20:39
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinality_of_the_continuum	Jan 30 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Cardinality of the continuum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jld8v ]		Jan 30 20:40
msb_	The point is that a Gini number between 0 and 1 doesn't psychologically get the point across to people that the wealthiest 1% owns 99% of everything.	Jan 30 20:41
MinceR	it doesn't need to	Jan 30 20:41
MinceR	higher Gini means higher inequality.	Jan 30 20:41
MinceR	a Gini of 1 means 1 person owns 100% of the wealth and the others own 0	Jan 30 20:41
msb_	Cardinality of the continuum is irrelevant to people's impression of inequality.,	Jan 30 20:42
MinceR	and it can be greater than one if some people have negative wealth	Jan 30 20:42
MinceR	but this is very unlikely	Jan 30 20:42
MinceR	so, people's impressions are more important than the truth, now?	Jan 30 20:42
msb_	when people see a Gini number from 0 to 1 that means much less to them than a wealth inequality of 1 vs. 100.	Jan 30 20:43
MinceR	you do realize that if you multiply the Gini by 100, you get a percentage, right?	Jan 30 20:44
msb_	Both the Gini number and the histogram express the truth, but the Gini number doesn't make people understand the real effect of the inequality like the histogram or the ratio of 1 to 100 does.	Jan 30 20:44
MinceR	(or something that works very much like a percentage, anyway)	Jan 30 20:44
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msb_	Here's the definition of the Gini number: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient#General_case	Jan 30 20:46
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MinceR	i've already seen it.	Jan 30 20:46
msb_	For it to be meaningful to people they have to understand integrals or summations, and apply that to the small difference between 0 and 1 to extrapolate that to the actual ratio of the wealth of rich vs everyone else.	Jan 30 20:47
msb_	Most people don't know enough math to do that.	Jan 30 20:48
MinceR	no they don't	Jan 30 20:48
msb_	Whereas the ratio of 100 to 1 immediately tells the story.	Jan 30 20:48
MinceR	it's enough to understand the histogram (lorenz curve) and ratio between areas	Jan 30 20:48
MinceR	it _is_ a ratio	Jan 30 20:48
MinceR	why don't you read what you linked?	Jan 30 20:48
MinceR	also, note that pathologically disproportionate distributions of wealth may mean that even the "1%" won't seem quite so wealthy, as poor people would be averaged with the rich ones (in that case, being far less numerous than 1%, of course)	Jan 30 20:50
msb_	The Lorenz curve is also deceptive, because the vertical coordinate is cumulative wealth instead of wealth per percentile.	Jan 30 20:51
msb_	Only the histogram (or graph) of wealth per percentile shows an accurate and informative view of the situation.	Jan 30 20:52
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MinceR	that's actually irrelevant as far as the shape of the curve is concerned	Jan 30 20:53
MinceR	wait, no	Jan 30 20:53
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MinceR	regardless, comparisons of Gini still order countries correctly in terms of inequality	Jan 30 20:53
msb_	Because the area and height of the bar in each percentile is proportional to the wealth per person in that percentile.	Jan 30 20:54
msb_	Do you not want people to see that in capitalist nations almost all wealth is held by the richest 1%?	Jan 30 20:56
msb_	The Gini number hides that. The histogram shows it.	Jan 30 20:56
MinceR	i want _you_ to see that in the places you believe are paradises, wealth is held even more inequally.	Jan 30 20:57
msb_	I haven't called any place "paradise". That's your lying straw-man argument.	Jan 30 20:57
MinceR	ooh, different words!	Jan 30 20:57
msb_	What "different words" are you talking about?	Jan 30 20:58
MinceR	i rephrased your "arguments" instead of hunting and copy-pasting your sentences, so i'm lying	Jan 30 20:58
msb_	Yes, you are lying when you attribute to me things I never said.	Jan 30 20:59
MinceR	by the way, your beloved Russia does even worse than Nicaragua or Venezuela	Jan 30 20:59
msb_	That's to be expected, because	Jan 30 21:00
msb_	Venezuela and Nicaragua are much more democratic than Russia	Jan 30 21:00
MinceR	you should make them a medal saying "more democratic than Russia!"	Jan 30 21:01
msb_	And while I'm Russian (Ukrainian) by ancestry, and aware of the fascist attacks on Russia by capitalist nations that slaughtered many millions, it is not "beloved" to me. Again you attribute things to me that I never said. You are lying.	Jan 30 21:03
MinceR	you seem to be unaware of the fascists attacks on Ukraine by Russia, though	Jan 30 21:03
MinceR	or you just don't care	Jan 30 21:03
MinceR	s/sts/st/	Jan 30 21:03
msb_	Again, by using the word "fascist" to mean "authoritarian" you make accurate thinking impossible.	Jan 30 21:04
msb_	I doubt that that's an accident.	Jan 30 21:04
MinceR	i doubt you'd care much while being killed by an authoritarian	Jan 30 21:05
msb_	The fascist -- corporatist, pro-wealthy -- media don't want people to understand the true meaning of fascist and socialist.	Jan 30 21:05
MinceR	and you don't understand it either	Jan 30 21:06
MinceR	considering that you keep bringing up examples of "socialism" that do not respect the supposed socialist values at all.	Jan 30 21:06
msb_	Fascism is a political system that uses force and deception to benefit the wealthy at the expense of working people. Socialism is a system in which working people control govt, factories, farms, transportation, medical facilities, etc, and receive the profits from them as wages.	Jan 30 21:08
MinceR	to what extend do they control/receive for that definition?	Jan 30 21:09
MinceR	s/end/ent/	Jan 30 21:09
msb_	The more the better.	Jan 30 21:09
MinceR	in that case, all democratic countries are "socialist" and no closer implementation of "socialism" has ever existed, especially not by countries that call themselves "socialist"	Jan 30 21:10
msb_	If the "democracy" were real, which would require people to be accurately informed, then they would vote for socialism.	Jan 30 21:11
msb_	But in the US for example, "democracy" is a farce because people are lied to by the wealthy-controlled media, so they have no idea of what's going on or what they could have.	Jan 30 21:12
msb_	They are also lied to by the educational system.	Jan 30 21:13
MinceR	the usa is not the only democracy on the planet, and there are countries in the western world that appear to be less flawed democracies than it	Jan 30 21:13
msb_	Yes, and some of them have more socialism and a higher standard of living than the US.	Jan 30 21:14
msb_	It also helps when they have a parliamentary system in which socialists can get elected and can discuss matters in the parliament.	Jan 30 21:15
msb_	Instead of a winner-take-all system in which they can't.	Jan 30 21:16
MinceR	what metric of 'standard of living' are you using?	Jan 30 21:17
msb_	Maximizing communication is all -important in enabling accurate thinking. Winner-take-all prevents it.	Jan 30 21:17
MinceR	i'm not sure how much of a role is left for communication in the parliament nowadays	Jan 30 21:19
msb_	I guess for a single number for standard of living, the median USD-equivalent wealth per person would be good.	Jan 30 21:20
MinceR	(javascript) https://www.battleforthenet.com/countdown/	Jan 30 21:20
msb_	But a histogram is better.	Jan 30 21:21
MinceR	so, GDP per capita?	Jan 30 21:21
MinceR	i'd use GDP (PPP) per capita	Jan 30 21:21
msb_	No, _median_ income per capita.	Jan 30 21:21
MinceR	oh.	Jan 30 21:21
MinceR	i wonder if anyone's calculated that.	Jan 30 21:21
msb_	That way huge wealth of the richest doesn't skew the number.	Jan 30 21:22
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_household_income	Jan 30 21:22
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MinceR	this sounds like it isn't very far from it	Jan 30 21:22
MinceR	and the usa isn't doing badly at all	Jan 30 21:22
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msb_	The US uses subversion and military force to exploit populations all over the world and get things cheaply.	Jan 30 21:26
msb_	It supports the worst govts it can create in other nations in order to keep workers and their wages down there. That creates huge profits for US businessmen and also cheaper goods for the US population.	Jan 30 21:28
MinceR	not sure about that	Jan 30 21:29
MinceR	they don't seem to be too happy with the situation in hungary	Jan 30 21:29
MinceR	even though it will certainly lead to lower wages here	Jan 30 21:29
msb_	who isn't happy with the situation in Hungary?	Jan 30 21:29
MinceR	the us government	Jan 30 21:29
msb_	Has the US govt threatened Hungary?	Jan 30 21:30
MinceR	(unless they're publicly lying about their displeasure)	Jan 30 21:30
MinceR	not afaik	Jan 30 21:30
MinceR	but they've expressed their displeasure	Jan 30 21:30
msb_	Regarding what? Closeness with Russia?	Jan 30 21:30
MinceR	no	Jan 30 21:31
msb_	What then?	Jan 30 21:31
MinceR	elimination of rule of law, freedom of speech, etc.	Jan 30 21:31
MinceR	the usual	Jan 30 21:31
msb_	Which you are also unhappy about.	Jan 30 21:31
MinceR	indeed.	Jan 30 21:31
MinceR	even if they don't practice it as well as we'd like, they at least pay lip service to the ideals of freedom :)	Jan 30 21:32
msb_	We have plenty of lip service here in the US. It just serves to fool people.	Jan 30 21:32
MinceR	there are plenty of places with less freedom on Earth.	Jan 30 21:33
msb_	Saudi Arabia is a good example.	Jan 30 21:34
msb_	Or rather a horrible example.	Jan 30 21:34
msb_	Israel/Palestine isn't much better.	Jan 30 21:35
MinceR	same with Russia or Hungary	Jan 30 21:36
msb_	They're probably better. Palestine is now one big concentration camp, and women suffer horribly in Saudi.	Jan 30 21:37
MinceR	they're not	Jan 30 21:37
MinceR	consider Pussy Riot for Russia	Jan 30 21:38
MinceR	and consider that in hungary, the only opposition radio station has only partial coverage and even that only because trying to shut them down caused an international scandal;	Jan 30 21:38
msb_	Do most people in Hungary have computers and uncensored Net connections?	Jan 30 21:38
MinceR	and consider that the only allegedly opposition tv station is mostly owned by a cult leader who supports the government	Jan 30 21:38
MinceR	not sure, actually	Jan 30 21:38
MinceR	the nazis already put the law in place to enable them to censor the internet	Jan 30 21:39
MinceR	not sure how far they've gone with it	Jan 30 21:39
MinceR	there was a recent court case where they tried to silence an extremist 'news' portal, but it's hosted in the usa (iirc)	Jan 30 21:39
MinceR	so i'm not sure what they're doing, maybe they'll do the usual DNS blocking game	Jan 30 21:39
msb_	It will help a lot if/when they get them. Then people can read http://globalresearch.ca/ and cosmicpenguin.com	Jan 30 21:40
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MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_in_Hungary#Internet_censorship_and_surveillance	Jan 30 21:40
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MinceR	(may be outdated)	Jan 30 21:41
MinceR	actually it's certainly outdated	Jan 30 21:41
msb_	Can you access all of youtube? how about globalresearch.ca ?	Jan 30 21:42
MinceR	parts of youtube are blocked by google probably only on copyright grounds	Jan 30 21:42
MinceR	i can also access globalresearch.ca	Jan 30 21:43
msb_	Good!	Jan 30 21:43
MinceR	i suspect the government isn't sophisticated enough to do anything more than DNS filtering yet	Jan 30 21:43
MinceR	(but the legal groundwork is there for more, iirc)	Jan 30 21:43
msb_	Single-board computers that run Linux are becoming very cheap now -- some about $30. Add a small monitor and away you go. If you can get a cheap Net connection.	Jan 30 21:44
MinceR	but for how long?	Jan 30 21:45
MinceR	i mean, for how long will that internet connection be allowed to be useful?	Jan 30 21:45
msb_	It's harder to take it away once people have it.	Jan 30 21:45
MinceR	nope, it's very easy to take it away	Jan 30 21:45
MinceR	the people happily watched the government take their rights away before as well	Jan 30 21:46
MinceR	the government demolished constitutionality, freedom of speech, rule of law, protection of private property	Jan 30 21:46
MinceR	the only time there was a substantial protest when they tried to put a huge tax on internet connections	Jan 30 21:46
msb_	I think that the reason the US govt did the 911 false-flag attack and the subsequent war of terror is that they were and are worried about the effect that cheap actual free speech on the Net would have.	Jan 30 21:46
MinceR	these people don't understand what freedom of speech is, or why it is important	Jan 30 21:46
MinceR	compare that to usians.	Jan 30 21:47
msb_	I think that once they have time to explore sites like youtube and globalresearch, and the info penetrates their minds, they will slowly wake up.	Jan 30 21:48
MinceR	for that, they'd have to (1) speak english and (2) care.	Jan 30 21:49
msb_	BTW, you are right about Pussy Riot. It was the worst PR Putin ever had.	Jan 30 21:49
MinceR	it's not just pr.	Jan 30 21:49
MinceR	(hm, Pussy Riot can also be abbreviated as PR)	Jan 30 21:49
msb_	Well, it was only a few people and they were released after what, about a year?	Jan 30 21:49
MinceR	oh, you wouldn't mind being jailed for "about a year" for insulting a cult?	Jan 30 21:50
msb_	but it made him look awful -- scared of pussy!	Jan 30 21:50
msb_	Of course I would.	Jan 30 21:50
msb_	But I am much more concerned about two million people being murdered by the US.	Jan 30 21:51
MinceR	you're not concerned about the people murdered by russia?	Jan 30 21:51
msb_	When is the last time Russia did that?	Jan 30 21:51
msb_	(I know in your mind it was only yesterday 8^)	Jan 30 21:52
MinceR	i don't know anymore	Jan 30 21:52
msb_	Maybe 50-60 years ago	Jan 30 21:52
MinceR	they're trying to blur the lines between russian military forces and supposedly non-russian forces	Jan 30 21:52
msb_	The US is doing it right now.	Jan 30 21:53
MinceR	apparently russia did kill some people even during the crimean crisis	Jan 30 21:53
MinceR	last year	Jan 30 21:53
msb_	The Nazi Ukraine coup govt backed by the US started that killing.	Jan 30 21:54
MinceR	so you keep saying	Jan 30 21:54
MinceR	ignoring putin's puppets, as usual	Jan 30 21:54
msb_	You know they shot down that airliner and blamed it on Russia, right?	Jan 30 21:54
MinceR	i don't know	Jan 30 21:54
msb_	What you call Putin's puppets were happy to live under the previous elected Ukraine govt.	Jan 30 21:55
MinceR	no, i called yanukovych & co. putin's puppets	Jan 30 21:56
MinceR	they weren't living "under" the government	Jan 30 21:56
msb_	For god's sake read this: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 21:56
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MinceR	and there were allegations of fraud	Jan 30 21:57
MinceR	so who knows what was really "elected"	Jan 30 21:57
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx3TKACD1OXB16M&newContentID=MxIVYCXB1RRFGN&newContentNum=15#Mx2TVN1IP2YPIG2	Jan 30 21:57
MinceR	then again, even hungarians got the whole election thing horribly wrong	Jan 30 21:57
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 30 21:57
DaemonFC	Don't worry. If it's a Microsoft AI, the "Enslaving humanity!" progress bar will keep moving while the remaining time goes up, giving the world plenty of time to figure out how to stop it, even if it doesn't just crash itself before the progress bar goes away.	Jan 30 21:57
DaemonFC	Don't forget to "Activate" your new overlord if it manages to finish enslaving us all, or it will stop enslaving us all after a few days and hang at the activation screen.	Jan 30 21:57
MinceR	lol	Jan 30 21:57
msb_	Yes, the elected govt of Ukraine wasn't the best, but the country was reasonably free and peaceful.	Jan 30 21:58
MinceR	apparently it was neither	Jan 30 21:59
MinceR	and now they have another elected government which also isn't the best	Jan 30 21:59
msb_	No, the Nazis were not elected.	Jan 30 21:59
MinceR	but poroshenko and yatsenyuk were, apparently	Jan 30 22:00
msb_	Ukraine was stable, with no shooting, until the US-supported Nazi coup.	Jan 30 22:09
MinceR	translation: ukraine was stable until it was not stable	Jan 30 22:10
msb_	The pro-EU and pro-Russia people were getting along together.	Jan 30 22:10
MinceR	until ukraine wanted to join the eu and the nato	Jan 30 22:10
msb_	No, that's a nonsense "translation". The violent Nazi coup was supported by the US.	Jan 30 22:11
MinceR	so you keep saying like that would make it true.	Jan 30 22:11
msb_	Some Ukrainians wanted to join the EU and some did not.	Jan 30 22:11
msb_	Have you read this article? http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 22:12
MinceR	i've skimmed it before	Jan 30 22:13
msb_	Please read it in detail.	Jan 30 22:13
MinceR	tons of bullshit	Jan 30 22:13
msb_	What in it is bullshit?	Jan 30 22:13
MinceR	a nazi party being present as a minority in a mostly moderate government makes the government "nazi" in their view	Jan 30 22:13
MinceR	and this point isn't even particularly explicit	Jan 30 22:13
MinceR	just the constant chant of "nazi, nazi, nazi"	Jan 30 22:14
MinceR	it's dishonest.	Jan 30 22:14
MinceR	it's also sensational.	Jan 30 22:14
msb_	The US govt gave the coup organizations FIVE BILLION DOLLARS!	Jan 30 22:15
MinceR	so not svoboda, but the coup organizations	Jan 30 22:15
MinceR	if they were sure of their truth, they'd have supported it with facts instead of just the sensationalistic repetition	Jan 30 22:16
msb_	"The Cabinet is not only integrated by the Svoboda and Right Sector (not to mention former members of defunct fascist UNA-UNSO), the two main Neo-Nazi entities have been entrusted with key positions which grant them de facto control over the Armed Forces, Police, Justice and National Security."	Jan 30 22:16
MinceR	show me a coalition government that did not give any positions to some of its component parties.	Jan 30 22:17
msb_	That govt gave _control_ positions to Nazis!	Jan 30 22:18
MinceR	all government positions are control positions.	Jan 30 22:18
MinceR	that's what being a minister is about.	Jan 30 22:18
msb_	control over the Armed Forces, Police, Justice and National Securit	Jan 30 22:18
msb_	y	Jan 30 22:18
MinceR	shouldn't have voted for the nazis, then.	Jan 30 22:18
msb_	Does control by Nazis bother you?	Jan 30 22:20
MinceR	it does	Jan 30 22:20
MinceR	even if it's by nazis who learned their trade in governments that called themselves "socialist" or "communist".	Jan 30 22:21
msb_	All Nazis are opposed to socialists.	Jan 30 22:21
MinceR	so they say.	Jan 30 22:22
msb_	You don't believe them?	Jan 30 22:22
MinceR	not necessarily	Jan 30 22:22
MinceR	you trust people who are solely concerned with their own fortune (authoritarians in the government) way too much.	Jan 30 22:22
msb_	Do you believe that Hitler's Nazis slaughtered socialists and trade-unionists wherever they could?	Jan 30 22:23
MinceR	also note that national socialism was designed also to attract socialists.	Jan 30 22:23
MinceR	i suppose they did, at some point	Jan 30 22:23
msb_	The name was a lie.	Jan 30 22:23
MinceR	and so's some of the symbolism	Jan 30 22:24
MinceR	including the red background of the flag.	Jan 30 22:24
MinceR	but then "people's republic", "democratic republic" and "people's democratic republic" also tends to be a lie.	Jan 30 22:24
msb_	What authoritarians are you saying that I trust?	Jan 30 22:24
MinceR	putin, for example	Jan 30 22:24
MinceR	yanukovych is another	Jan 30 22:25
msb_	I don't trust Putin. I'm glad he is opposing mass murder by the US.	Jan 30 22:25
MinceR	you expect putin to fight "fascists" just because he happens to be a different color of authoritarian, in your book	Jan 30 22:25
MinceR	you'd put out a house on fire by lighting another fire in the same house.	Jan 30 22:26
msb_	I don't expect anything. He and the other BRICS nations are opposing US takeover of the planet.	Jan 30 22:26
msb_	"house on fire" is another lying straw-man argument. Why don't you stop lying like that?	Jan 30 22:27
MinceR	and supporting russian or chinese takeover of the planet	Jan 30 22:27
MinceR	no, it's a metaphor	Jan 30 22:27
MinceR	but i guess you're too much of a moron to understand metaphors	Jan 30 22:27
msb_	Russia and China are not doing anything to take over the planet. The US has invaded and destroyed several nations in the last decade or so and murdered millions.	Jan 30 22:28
MinceR	http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/david-stockman-the-bric-miracle-is-a-fable-made-by-central-banks-and-told-by-goldman/	Jan 30 22:28
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MinceR	oh, annexation is not progress toward taking over the planet but occupation is?	Jan 30 22:29
MinceR	interesting ideas there	Jan 30 22:29
msb_	The Crimeans voted to be annexed.	Jan 30 22:29
MinceR	yes, at gunpoint	Jan 30 22:29
msb_	Where there guns in the polling places?	Jan 30 22:29
MinceR	annexing crimea did not take russia closer to take over the planet, but apparently being temporarily in afghanistan and iraq took the usa closer to taking over the planet	Jan 30 22:29
MinceR	why would the guns have to be in the polling places?	Jan 30 22:30
MinceR	they take effect over a distance, you know	Jan 30 22:30
MinceR	especially the bigger ones the russians are fond of	Jan 30 22:30
msb_	If the voting is private then how do guns elsewhere influence the voters?	Jan 30 22:32
MinceR	via threatening the entire population if the outcome is not what the russians desired, for example	Jan 30 22:33
MinceR	or by general intimidation	Jan 30 22:33
msb_	That's what secret ballots are for. Intimidation is avoided because nobody knows how you voted.	Jan 30 22:35
MinceR	they'll know how you voted if every vote is the same in the voting district	Jan 30 22:35
MinceR	they'll know how the majority voted in the voting district	Jan 30 22:35
MinceR	etc.	Jan 30 22:35
msb_	What would convince you that the Crimeans wanted to join Russia instead of living under Nazis?	Jan 30 22:37
MinceR	if the vote happened without the russian military show in crimea.	Jan 30 22:37
MinceR	also, you're implying that russians aren't nazis.	Jan 30 22:37
msb_	Yes. Nazis -- fascists -- those words have a particular meaning -- violent deceptive govt in service to corporations and the wealthy.	Jan 30 22:40
MinceR	check.	Jan 30 22:41
MinceR	also, same regime as under the USSR and the eastern bloc, but with a nationalist/christian flavor instead of the (pretend non-nationalist)/(communist/cult of personality) flavor	Jan 30 22:42
MinceR	same as in hungary	Jan 30 22:42
MinceR	since putin is orban's exemplar	Jan 30 22:44
msb_	It occurs to me to wonder: How much money did your family have before Russia took over Hungary?	Jan 30 22:44
MinceR	dunno, not much, afaik	Jan 30 22:44
MinceR	afaik we did have lands though	Jan 30 22:44
msb_	How much?	Jan 30 22:45
MinceR	dunno	Jan 30 22:45
MinceR	certainly more than we have now	Jan 30 22:45
MinceR	since the "privatization" favored those who had good government connections	Jan 30 22:46
MinceR	and we never had those	Jan 30 22:46
msb_	Do you know why Hitler invaded Russia and murdered 20 million people?	Jan 30 22:47
MinceR	i've heard of some reasons	Jan 30 22:48
msb_	Namely?	Jan 30 22:49
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MinceR	he wanted to conquer as much of earth (or at least europe) as he could; he expected opposition from russia	Jan 30 22:50
MinceR	though i faintly recall some pact between nazi germany and russia	Jan 30 22:50
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msb_	please watch this excellent documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM	Jan 30 22:54
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DaemonFC	MinceR, They names the snowstorm that's about to hit Indiana "Linus".	Jan 30 22:56
msb_	Also, please read the material linked here, American Businessmen Financed Hitler http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis	Jan 30 22:56
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DaemonFC	*named	Jan 30 22:56
MinceR	:)	Jan 30 22:56
DaemonFC	http://www.weather.com/storms/winter/news/winter-storm-linus-forecast-plains-midwest-northeast	Jan 30 22:57
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MinceR	msb_: no "IBM and the Holocaust"?	Jan 30 22:57
msb_	This information explains Hitler's motivations.	Jan 30 22:57
MinceR	you don't think he had any motivation other than his funding?	Jan 30 22:58
msb_	What was it?	Jan 30 22:58
MinceR	see above	Jan 30 22:58
msb_	see what above?	Jan 30 22:58
MinceR	234608 <@MinceR> he wanted to conquer as much of earth (or at least europe) as he could; he expected opposition from russia	Jan 30 22:59
MinceR	234629 <@MinceR> though i faintly recall some pact between nazi germany and russia	Jan 30 22:59
MinceR	i wonder why i talk to you if you don't read what i write anyway	Jan 30 22:59
msb_	Why did he want to conquere the earth?	Jan 30 22:59
MinceR	not sure	Jan 30 22:59
MinceR	ideology, megalomania, madness (basically the same thing anyway)	Jan 30 22:59
msb_	Please watch that video and read those links. That will give you some solid information.	Jan 30 23:01
MinceR	i think i'll just go to sleep instead.	Jan 30 23:01
msb_	You could watch and read them when you wake up. Get actual information instead of vague ideas.	Jan 30 23:02
msb_	Download the video using youtube-dl. That way you'll have it if your govt cuts of your Net.	Jan 30 23:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @mk270 indeed, I went to the former and gave a talk on the subject; probably my fault it passed...		Jan 31 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @wendycockcroft indeed		Jan 31 01:47
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/561280393983561728	Jan 31 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @glynmoody The sooner that misbegotten monster dies, the better.		Jan 31 01:47
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/561339852667375616	Jan 31 01:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz (hope you will re-phrase that, to be more specific)		Jan 31 01:52
schestowitz	Nations that support terrorists who further their own agenda, spread idealogy and power-shift	Jan 31 01:52
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schestowitz	hi carlosr	Jan 31 01:59
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/561343252113412096	Jan 31 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz I'd include insurgents & paramilitaries along side "terrorists". ISIL ("ISIS") is actually an ARMY that features TERROR plays.		Jan 31 02:07
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/561343957624315904	Jan 31 02:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz I gather your comment is in relation to the insurgents in Iraq and Syria.		Jan 31 02:08
schestowitz	They too were inadvertently supported by those who now fear them. Things got our of hand IMHO.	Jan 31 02:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561345552047017986	Jan 31 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz what would be your top priorities?		Jan 31 02:28
schestowitz	As in, if I was a politician?	Jan 31 02:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561351112511737857	Jan 31 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz yep that's what I meant. No spying on citizens I'd assume?		Jan 31 02:38
schestowitz	Only on those who are known to be potential threat (i.e. no mass surveillance)	Jan 31 02:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561352031122620417	Jan 31 02:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz yes sorry of course		Jan 31 02:47
schestowitz	All people whom I know successfully detonated bombs were already watched closely	Jan 31 02:47
schestowitz	There's no need to infringement everyone's privacy to find them in the haystack. Just look at travel records.	Jan 31 02:48
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561354344251920385	Jan 31 02:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz not closely enough or the police were too lenient?		Jan 31 02:52
schestowitz	Distracted by the haystack, overclassification	Jan 31 02:53
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schestowitz	http://readwrite.com/2015/01/26/drone-confusion-predator-multi-rotor-copter-new-word	Jan 31 03:18
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schestowitz	http://theweek.com/speedreads/536216/gotten-lot-easier-away-murder	Jan 31 03:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theweek.com \| It's gotten a lot easier to get away with murder [ http://ur1.ca/jlh89 ]		Jan 31 03:42
schestowitz	"a national backlog of more than 200,000 unsolved murders that have accumulated since 1980."	Jan 31 03:43
schestowitz	http://www.businessinsider.com.au/badger-submarine-bart-jansen-2015-1	Jan 31 04:23
schestowitz	DAFAQ	Jan 31 04:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com.au \| The Dutch Artist Who Turned His Dead Cat Into A Drone Is Keeping A Badger In His Freezer To Build A Submarine \| Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/jlhkp ]		Jan 31 04:23
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/561380321514364929	Jan 31 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: Just watched @aral's talk, 100% agree with importance of good UX that doesn't spy. @schestowitz @charlesarthur @DanielEran @arebee @stevesi		Jan 31 04:36
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5504441	Jan 31 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Libreboot X200 laptop now FSF-certified to respect your freedom http://www.fsf.org/news/libreboot-x200-laptop-now-fsf-certified-to-respect-your-freedom #fsf #gnu #linux		Jan 31 10:52
schestowitz	http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/product/libreboot-x200	Jan 31 10:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.fsf.org \| Libreboot X200 laptop now FSF-certified to respect your freedom — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software [ http://ur1.ca/jkymj ]		Jan 31 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shop.gluglug.org.uk \| Libreboot X200 \| The Gluglug [ http://ur1.ca/jll7z ]		Jan 31 10:53
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5511069	Jan 31 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Russian nuclear bombers over Britain" a misleading headline you can only find in #dailyfail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2933765/Russian-nuclear-bombers-Britain-scared.html		Jan 31 10:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dailymail.co.uk \| Russian nuclear bombers over Britain and why we should all be VERY scared \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jll83 ]		Jan 31 10:53
schestowitz	"This is scary for Britons, but Russians have to get used to US and NATO planes over Russia and ships near Russian shores."	Jan 31 10:53
schestowitz	Because Russia always bombs countries, NATO never does... oh, wait. In Soviet Russia reversal?	Jan 31 10:54
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msb_	.	Jan 31 12:04
msb_	This friction with Russia began almost a year ago when the US gave FIVE BILLION DOLLARS to a bunch of Nazis to take over the government of Ukraine by military force: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 31 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca \| The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine \| Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ]		Jan 31 12:06
msb_	People in eastern Ukraine made it known that they did not want to live under a Nazi regime, and thousands were shot or bombarded by the new Nazi government.	Jan 31 12:08
msb_	The Ukrainian Nazi coup government shot down a Malaysian airliner, murdering hundreds of people, and blamed it on a Russian missile. However, pieces of the cockpit wall were found to have holes from projectiles entering from both port and starboard. These could not have come from a single missile, but must have come from the two Nazi Ukraine jet fighter planes that were observed on both sides of the airliner.	Jan 31 12:11
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/561496231953055744	Jan 31 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz since they're not convincing many of us, don't rate their chances #RuleOfLaw #Surveillance #Habeas Corpus #FreeSpeech #Spying		Jan 31 12:14
msb_	Thus it was a false-flag terror operation by the US-backed Nazi coup government.	Jan 31 12:15
msb_	Crimea, in eastern Ukraine, voted overwhelmingly to join Russia, which then annexed it.	Jan 31 12:16
msb_	The US has launched various economic attacks against Russia.	Jan 31 12:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561497333217910784	Jan 31 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 this is not true. Everyone has to read this: https://t.co/DeqEyi4mPz		Jan 31 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Cephurs: Evolution of Terrorist Propaganda: The Paris Attack and Social Media http://t.co/wKX1QOFisL … ht @kufr666		Jan 31 12:19
msb_	Here's how the Daily Mail article totally reverses cause and effect: "First, there is the West’s response to Russia’s invasion of Crimea and violent incursions into Ukraine."	Jan 31 12:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561497471764140032	Jan 31 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 it's not about "journalists and bloggers".		Jan 31 12:19
schestowitz	GCHQ targets those too, if they're considered too effective for popular resistance	Jan 31 12:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561497893740486656	Jan 31 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: ,@schestowitz @kaatje36 ppl are being murdered & the killings are being uploaded to the internet in order to generate more murder.		Jan 31 12:20
schestowitz	But that's not the sole target of spying and shaming	Jan 31 12:20
schestowitz	Wikileaks, based on this assessment, could be targeted (as it is) for uploading Collateral Murder video to YouTube	Jan 31 12:21
msb_	.	Jan 31 12:25
msb_	The Western fascist nations control and gain the support of their populations by feeding them false information via the government and corporate media. This false view of the world was portrayed as "The Matrix" in the movie of that name.	Jan 31 12:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561498509187489793 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561498738569797633	Jan 31 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 GCHQ is over-rated.		Jan 31 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 don't believe the WL hype		Jan 31 12:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561498867070697473 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561499053612343297	Jan 31 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Other issue. Read it though and can't take someone who wants to abolish anonymity seriously....		Jan 31 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Besides that, he has a commercial interest in fearmongering.		Jan 31 12:28
msb_	Usually it involves claims that the US and other Western nations are being attacked by terrible enemies, and so we must all support our governments and give up our freedoms so we can be protected.	Jan 31 12:28
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561499289873313792 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561499661593485313	Jan 31 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz it's not about abolishing anonymity. Some of us are sick of the threats and will use any tool to stop it		Jan 31 12:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz and there is no "anonymity" on the Internet. The idea affords a false sense of security.		Jan 31 12:29
schestowitz	Check our Tor	Jan 31 12:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561499720687026176 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561500220794863616 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561500302621544448	Jan 31 12:30
msb_	But it usually turns out that any attacks are done by fascist agents disguised as communists and now Moslems, in what are called false-flag operations.	Jan 31 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Last paragraph about Cloudflare is very clear.		Jan 31 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz I got sent a vine of some dude getting his head chopped off. I don't wanna see that shit.		Jan 31 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz What he wants is like blaming a knifes producer for someone who kills with it.		Jan 31 12:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561500507379077120	Jan 31 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz no, if u listen to his testimony that is not true. Want the link?		Jan 31 12:30
schestowitz	msb_: not really	Jan 31 12:30
schestowitz	it's often that they have some past links	Jan 31 12:30
schestowitz	like having been trained in Jordan	Jan 31 12:30
schestowitz	knowing there would be risk involved\	Jan 31 12:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561500660559257602	Jan 31 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz sure		Jan 31 12:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561500835809882113 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561500883595567104	Jan 31 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: ,@kaatje36 @schestowitz I'm not the only one who got a vine vid. They were sending them left and right to lots of women who dared speak out.		Jan 31 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz I don't want to see ugly naked ppl on the web either, but it's there :D		Jan 31 12:32
schestowitz	De-anonymisation would not stop it (let alone be possible)	Jan 31 12:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561501151200542720	Jan 31 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz So, that calls for targeted research not for blaming the platform it's sent over imo.		Jan 31 12:32
msb_	schestowitz: Can you be more specific? There are some small-scale attacks by actual Moslem crazies, but we should remember that Reagan created the major organization of these, the Mujahideen, to attack the moderate socialist government of Afghanistan.	Jan 31 12:33
schestowitz	With utmost respect I think that anti-Internet lobbies have had you believe that problem is anonymity	Jan 31 12:33
schestowitz	msb_: to attack USSR	Jan 31 12:34
schestowitz	or provoke	Jan 31 12:34
msb_	The Mujahideen later was called Al-Qaeda.	Jan 31 12:34
schestowitz	The Brits paid off some of the socialists	Jan 31 12:34
schestowitz	One son of theirs is my friend	Jan 31 12:34
msb_	schestowitz: Exactly!	Jan 31 12:34
schestowitz	No, it wasn't a rebrand per se	Jan 31 12:34
schestowitz	It's just that many who came from one group joined the other	Jan 31 12:34
schestowitz	So there was overlap	Jan 31 12:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561501220280745985 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561501775480782849	Jan 31 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz sorry but I draw the line at CP and snuff. Snuff combined w/ trying to silence ppl who disagree - is not gonna fly		Jan 31 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz me too, but as said targeting is the method imo and not taking out a platform.		Jan 31 12:35
schestowitz	Deterrence won't come through ban on anonymous use of Net	Jan 31 12:36
schestowitz	Just as a ban on encryption would not make the bad folks obey the law	Jan 31 12:36
msb_	There have been many cases in which the Western fascists have armed and financed the most evil people they could find, both to prevent working people in various nations from gaining control of their own governments, and to create "enemies" which can be used to scare the people of the Western nations into obedience.	Jan 31 12:37
msb_	I should have said to prevent working people in various nations from gaining control of their own governments AND ECONOMIES.	Jan 31 12:39
msb_	One of the worst examples is the provision of 75% of the financing for Hitler's military buildup by wealthy US businessmen: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis	Jan 31 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Human Society That Works For Everyone		Jan 31 12:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561502317196091392 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561502510696112128 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561502783372034049	Jan 31 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 he's not calling for that anyway. IS use hashtags and the accounts are ez to trace but Twitter does not much.		Jan 31 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 Twitter does "not much" under orders from the FBI according to the guy who asked for that report.		Jan 31 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz It does give a chance to monitor them though.		Jan 31 12:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561502976247070720 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561503079431168000 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561503312152125441	Jan 31 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Lots of fake accnts to fearmonger as well......		Jan 31 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz or even to troll. Take the cybercaliphate accnt; was clearly fake.		Jan 31 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz idc. I want the nigs off here so we can DDoS ;-)		Jan 31 12:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561503740986163200	Jan 31 12:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: ,@kaatje36 @schestowitz I don't care how, who, or why. I want DDoS cc: @Cephurs @IntelTweet @Colonel_Shami		Jan 31 12:44
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504146361434113 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504230260092929	Jan 31 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: They are terrified of DDoS. So they hide on @twitter It's not about "anonymity" @kaatje36 @schestowitz @IntelTweet @Cephurs		Jan 31 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz DDoS is very expensive.		Jan 31 12:45
schestowitz	and illegal	Jan 31 12:45
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504452239446017 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504685606313984	Jan 31 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 so what?		Jan 31 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 legality of DDoS has never actually been tested. All the guys took a plea deal.		Jan 31 12:49
schestowitz	Are you sure?	Jan 31 12:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561505338495889408 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561505383928565762	Jan 31 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 <--- is a spook, so he doesn't care if something is legal or not :P		Jan 31 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 no one will get arrested for DDoSing a IS upstream. It will never happen		Jan 31 12:50
schestowitz	http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/return-of-the-chindits-mod-reveals-cunning-defence-plan-10014608.html http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/31/british-army-facebook-warriors-77th-brigade	Jan 31 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk \| New British Army unit 'Brigade 77' to use Facebook and Twitter in psychological warfare - Home News - UK - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/jlmbo ]		Jan 31 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| British army creates team of Facebook warriors \| UK news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jlmbp ]		Jan 31 12:51
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561505856609865728	Jan 31 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz So if I get this right you want to hold platforms responsible for their users to isolate them		Jan 31 12:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561505960926384128	Jan 31 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 100 percent sure. The hosting company has more to lose by complaining. They are facing terror charges.		Jan 31 12:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561506336706686976	Jan 31 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 These units have existed for years already.		Jan 31 12:53
schestowitz	yes, but this is reaffirmation of the strategy	Jan 31 12:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561506613333614592	Jan 31 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Insane, that's not the right method and reading all content is a clear breach of human rights.		Jan 31 12:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561506890958770176	Jan 31 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz I am just a concerned citizen. But I don't like getting sent vine vids of some poor guy getting murdered.		Jan 31 12:56
schestowitz	If you blame the sender, no remedy here. If you blame the uploader, you can only try to break the Internet	Jan 31 12:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561507129820209153	Jan 31 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz srs. Who are they gonna complain to if the get DDoS? They will be arrested on the spot.		Jan 31 12:57
schestowitz	DDOS affects not only the target	Jan 31 12:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561507710894882816	Jan 31 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 DDoS is a form of protest. Like a "sit-in"		Jan 31 13:00
schestowitz	Tell that to the many people who have spent months DDOSing my sites	Jan 31 13:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561508276563869696	Jan 31 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Rooting them to take out their network seems more opportune to me. So, really targeted.		Jan 31 13:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561509144071794689	Jan 31 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 Could have been easily just one person with a big gun Roy; doesn't necessarily have to be several ppl.		Jan 31 13:05
schestowitz	One person with a botnet	Jan 31 13:05
schestowitz	Sit-ins don't last months	Jan 31 13:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561509424112472066	Jan 31 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz rooting is no good cuz that really can hurt innocents. DDoS just shuts them up and costs a lot of money,		Jan 31 13:06
schestowitz	Nuking their homes also costs a lot of money	Jan 31 13:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561509895846236160	Jan 31 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 Agreed. You speak your mind, makes you a target.		Jan 31 13:08
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561510540904640514	Jan 31 13:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz it'll be more than one person with a botnet ;-) this is why they hide on Twitter		Jan 31 13:11
schestowitz	Your arguments are very weak, reveals misunderstand or poor understanding of the Net	Jan 31 13:11
schestowitz	misunderstanding	Jan 31 13:11
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561510552691015680	Jan 31 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Why? Track an uploaded Vid, if mistake has been made and you get the IP, root, get the contacts, take out.		Jan 31 13:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561510608261361664 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561510743216910336 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561510840705093632 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561511098512596992	Jan 31 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz seems like a perfectly fine method to me.		Jan 31 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz that's why certain sites don't get targeted, this is already happening.		Jan 31 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz manbar.me		Jan 31 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Yeah but that one was outed months ago, so they ofc are aware not to use it		Jan 31 13:13
schestowitz	Ever dealt with DDOS attacks? I have, for many years (also for clients)	Jan 31 13:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561511792677896193	Jan 31 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 what do u mean by "dealt with DDoS attacks"? Never heard of them.		Jan 31 13:15
schestowitz	Ever had to protect a site from one?	Jan 31 13:15
schestowitz	DDOS attacks severely hurt not just the sites targeted	Jan 31 13:16
schestowitz	"he's trolling you; he's highly skilled with an agenda."	Jan 31 13:16
schestowitz	Yes, I'll ignore now	Jan 31 13:16
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561512316974276609	Jan 31 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz So? @kaatje36		Jan 31 13:17
schestowitz	Bye troll	Jan 31 13:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561512884472000512	Jan 31 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz Farsnews was over a million dollars damage. I'm not being a troll. Enlighten me. @kaatje36		Jan 31 13:20
schestowitz	"haha, don't say I said anything :D"	Jan 31 13:21
schestowitz	Of course, I regret wasting time on anonymous troll who bemoans anonymous trolls	Jan 31 13:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561513964643688451 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514051495137280 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514198341935104	Jan 31 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 over a million dollars damage and they got the message. They threatened us an their head of cyber-security was killed		Jan 31 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 got shot to death in a drive by		Jan 31 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 no more threat		Jan 31 13:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561514432304807937 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514803739381761 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514979191291904	Jan 31 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Let's agree to disagree on the MO used to target them.		Jan 31 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz I like the drive by shooting story cuz of the #opiran got ppl killed nonsense @asherahresearch		Jan 31 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch and it really happened. Unlike that rumor. Guy was shot to death		Jan 31 13:32
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561515292723920897 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561515678729900032	Jan 31 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch as one of the ppl targeted by this guy who was shot to death. I obviously took note		Jan 31 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch when real lives are at stake. I don't care about drama or money cuz of DDoS. Ppl still go home		Jan 31 13:32
schestowitz	"he has interesting pov's and it gives insight in how they think. I actually get along with him which puzzles me haha"	Jan 31 13:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch @RealityForger always be careful who u talk to on the Internet. Not my work http://t.co/N5HBnIvC6c		Jan 31 13:43
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MinceR	geekings	Jan 31 13:45
MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/BUyA9Cr.png	Jan 31 13:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/viejolex1/status/561522696765190144	Jan 31 14:01
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Sosumi	just installed the current version of fedora	Jan 31 17:02
Sosumi	and to my actual surprise	Jan 31 17:02
Sosumi	system d is on it	Jan 31 17:03
Sosumi	I didn't actually expect that	Jan 31 17:03
XRevan86	Sosumi: You didn't :)?	Jan 31 17:03
Sosumi	nop	Jan 31 17:03
Sosumi	I actually didn't	Jan 31 17:03
XRevan86	Fedora was the very first distribution to adopt systemd.	Jan 31 17:04
XRevan86	adapt*	Jan 31 17:04
MinceR	fedora's been infected with cancerd for a long time	Jan 31 17:04
Sosumi	:(	Jan 31 17:05
*g2` is now known as NSA		Jan 31 17:05
*NSA is now known as g2`		Jan 31 17:06
XRevan86	Sosumi: Debian, Gentoo, Slackware.	Jan 31 17:06
Sosumi	the ones not adopting systemd	Jan 31 17:07
Sosumi	right?	Jan 31 17:07
XRevan86	Sosumi: Gentoo and Slackware are not, Debian has systemd by default but gives a choice.	Jan 31 17:07
Sosumi	choice is good	Jan 31 17:07
XRevan86	Gentoo also gives a choice and systemd is not by default.	Jan 31 17:08
Sosumi	but init isn't being deprecated, right?	Jan 31 17:08
XRevan86	Sosumi: In Debian it kinda is, still supported though.	Jan 31 17:08
Sosumi	ok	Jan 31 17:09
XRevan86	Sosumi: Consider using OpenRC :).	Jan 31 17:09
XRevan86	https://packages.debian.org/jessie/openrc	Jan 31 17:09
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Sosumi	:)	Jan 31 17:10
MinceR	debian is already adopting cancerd	Jan 31 17:10
MinceR	that's why there's devuan	Jan 31 17:10
XRevan86	MinceR: Devuan is not worth mentioning	Jan 31 17:10
MinceR	and the choice debian gives you is "you can use systemd or we'll break everything we can for you"	Jan 31 17:11
XRevan86	http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d	Jan 31 17:11
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MinceR	XRevan86: devuan's worth mentioning more than debian is	Jan 31 17:11
XRevan86	MinceR: So you think two worthless packages are more important than whole Debian?	Jan 31 17:11
XRevan86	(with or without systemd)	Jan 31 17:12
MinceR	i think that a working GNU/Linux distro is more important than yet another fedora with different logo and wallpaper	Jan 31 17:12
XRevan86	MinceR: That's a lot of assumptions.	Jan 31 17:13
XRevan86	1. Devuan not only exists but also works.	Jan 31 17:13
XRevan86	2. systemd transforms a distro into Fedora	Jan 31 17:13
MinceR	you might want to read poettering's plans.	Jan 31 17:14
XRevan86	MinceR: I am more interested in plans of Debian :).	Jan 31 17:15
XRevan86	systemd is free software and Poettering always have a chance to go to hell if systemd adopters think he is nuts.	Jan 31 17:16
MinceR	the plans of debian do not matter since they've adopted poettering as their master	Jan 31 17:17
MinceR	poettering is forcing them to his way in everything	Jan 31 17:18
XRevan86	MinceR: For now they think it's not that bad.	Jan 31 17:18
MinceR	which only increases the danger	Jan 31 17:18
MinceR	maybe they'll never realize their stuff is broken	Jan 31 17:19
MinceR	maybe it will only be too late	Jan 31 17:19
XRevan86	MinceR: I doubt that mega-plans of Poettering which implies major rethinking of distros can pass them :).	Jan 31 17:20
MinceR	what matters to me is that the debian TC has already committed to only making systemd work in their next alleged "stable" release	Jan 31 17:20
XRevan86	systemd can be forked and already is: http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/	Jan 31 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uselessd.darknedgy.net \| uselessd :: information system		Jan 31 17:20
MinceR	it's pointless to fork an inherently bad design	Jan 31 17:21
MinceR	you might as well be running windows or reactos	Jan 31 17:21
XRevan86	MinceR: ReactOS doesn't even work (just like Devuan :D)	Jan 31 17:22
MinceR	neither will jessie	Jan 31 17:22
XRevan86	they can't even make it not to fall into BSOD for 20 minutes in VirtualBox	Jan 31 17:22
XRevan86	MinceR: Jessie can work for 20 minutes without falling into kernel panic.	Jan 31 17:22
MinceR	ooh, 20 minutes	Jan 31 17:23
MinceR	that's enough for so much	Jan 31 17:23
MinceR	i could hire someone to reboot my jessie server every 20 minutes	Jan 31 17:23
MinceR	or i could just use a distro that isn't made by idiots	Jan 31 17:23
XRevan86	MinceR: I said that because of analogy with ReactOS	Jan 31 17:23
MinceR	as for cancerd systems not being fedora, do you realize that systemd already has sort of a package manager built in?	Jan 31 17:24
XRevan86	MinceR: No, I don't.	Jan 31 17:24
XRevan86	MinceR: How is it called?	Jan 31 17:25
XRevan86	https://startpage.com/do/search?cat=web&query=systemd-dnfd I guess not like thatю	Jan 31 17:26
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XRevan86	that.*	Jan 31 17:26
MinceR	i can't find it	Jan 31 17:27
DaemonFC	Time to go to the store and stock up on a few odds and ends before we get a foot of snow dumped on us. :P	Jan 31 17:28
DaemonFC	Winter Storm Linus	Jan 31 17:28
XRevan86	DaemonFC: Linus? Really?	Jan 31 17:28
XRevan86	It is wrong to call it Linus. Proper name is GNU+Linus.	Jan 31 17:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/isabell08481837/status/561541179742097408	Jan 31 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@isabell08481837: @ggreenwald @schestowitz before murder,suicide and war are these "mustlims" askedwhat is your religion so I can write my "advertising news"		Jan 31 17:30
DaemonFC	Yeah. That's what they named it.	Jan 31 17:30
XRevan86	MinceR: systemd somewhat sucks and gives doubts but it's not as evil as you're trying to make it look.	Jan 31 17:34
MinceR	yeah, it's worse	Jan 31 17:34
XRevan86	MinceR: No, it's not.	Jan 31 17:34
MinceR	i haven't mentioned most of the issues with it yet	Jan 31 17:34
XRevan86	MinceR: I'm sure they do exist just as in other projects.	Jan 31 17:35
MinceR	well, i guess they do exist in other projects such as windows and macos	Jan 31 17:35
MinceR	like the intentional non-portability	Jan 31 17:36
MinceR	(and refusing to accept patches to fix it)	Jan 31 17:36
XRevan86	MinceR: {e,}udev is not portable either.	Jan 31 17:37
MinceR	yes, udev is also crap	Jan 31 17:37
MinceR	and tied to systemd	Jan 31 17:38
XRevan86	MinceR: And eudev?	Jan 31 17:38
MinceR	there's some hope for that	Jan 31 17:38
XRevan86	MinceR: It will not ever be portable.	Jan 31 17:38
MinceR	as its maintainers are not as malicious as poettering	Jan 31 17:38
XRevan86	MinceR: Is Devuan malicious?	Jan 31 17:39
MinceR	systemd non-portability already killed Debian GNU/HURD and Debian GNU/kFreeBSD	Jan 31 17:39
MinceR	not afaict	Jan 31 17:39
XRevan86	MinceR: Devuan only accepted donations and do/did nothing.	Jan 31 17:39
MinceR	doesn't look like it does nothing	Jan 31 17:39
XRevan86	MinceR: What they did?	Jan 31 17:40
XRevan86	examples of real work	Jan 31 17:40
MinceR	there's LoginKit, for example	Jan 31 17:40
MinceR	though i'm not sure if i'll use it	Jan 31 17:41
XRevan86	MinceR: How is it related to Devuan?	Jan 31 17:41
MinceR	it's made for devuan and its developer was helped out from donations to devuan, afaik	Jan 31 17:41
XRevan86	MinceR: Yeah, I heard Devuan folks said they were planning to give some of the donations to him.	Jan 31 17:43
XRevan86	Still I don't know if he actually get some.	Jan 31 17:43
MinceR	afaik they already did	Jan 31 17:43
MinceR	also, to you, a project doesn't exist until it does its first release?	Jan 31 17:43
XRevan86	MinceR: Until it gets some work into repo.	Jan 31 17:43
MinceR	https://git.devuan.org/explore/projects	Jan 31 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.devuan.org \| Explore \| GitLab		Jan 31 17:45
XRevan86	MinceR: I see LoginKit here.	Jan 31 17:46
XRevan86	no other actual work	Jan 31 17:46
DaemonFC	https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/988931_917828781574391_2647735375828257796_n.jpg?oh=384f959f2fb6fed93f69d8a27e0523ce&oe=555CA48D&__gda__=1431932044_445e514c12befe29a4fefa8a8e109dad	Jan 31 17:50
MinceR	but i'll probably just run Bedrock+Gentoo instead.	Jan 31 18:09
MinceR	so i can also get rid of polkit and consolekit :>	Jan 31 18:09
XRevan86	Useless trademark violation pictures presents: http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/15/0131/h_1422728064_3251273_8f50519120.png	Jan 31 18:22
XRevan86	Blue System → Blue Systems (:	Jan 31 18:23
MinceR	huh?	Jan 31 18:34
XRevan86	MinceR: Have you heard about Modern Talking?	Jan 31 18:35
MinceR	i have, but not much	Jan 31 18:36
XRevan86	MinceR: Blue System is a music band which happend after MT breakup.	Jan 31 18:38
XRevan86	(first one)	Jan 31 18:38
MinceR	what do they have to do with KDE?	Jan 31 18:38
XRevan86	MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems	Jan 31 18:38
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MinceR	oh.	Jan 31 18:39
MinceR	the Blue System logo clears it up :)	Jan 31 18:39
XRevan86	MinceR: :)	Jan 31 18:40
DaemonFC	16" of snow is coming.	Jan 31 22:24
DaemonFC	sigh	Jan 31 22:24
DaemonFC	Crap. I forgot to get popcorn while I was at the store.	Jan 31 22:24
MinceR	we haven't had a real winter in hungary for a while	Jan 31 22:29
XRevan86	This year winter is proper… since January.	Jan 31 22:34
XRevan86	in Russia	Jan 31 22:34
gde33	http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31039227	Jan 31 22:49
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XRevan86	in the North West, I mean	Jan 31 22:50
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schestowitz__	hi XRevan86, welcome	Jan 31 23:50
XRevan86	schestowitz__: Salute, thanks :).	Jan 31 23:51
XRevan86	I'm going to bed now, though…	Jan 31 23:51
XRevan86	I'm not sleeping now only because I'm busy answering a letter.	Jan 31 23:51
XRevan86	Good night, folks.	Jan 31 23:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ninja Blocks prepares to begin shipping,	Jan 25 01:37
TweetTuxMachines	announces major Ubuntu IoT deal	Jan 25 01:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Replace Windows 7 With Linux Mint Without	Jan 25 02:19
TweetTuxMachines	Overwriting Other Partitions	Jan 25 02:19
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XFaCE	gde33: http://torrentfreak.com/zombie-pirate-bay-tracker-fuels-chinese-ddos-attacks-150124/	Jan 25 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-torrentfreak.com \| Zombie Pirate Bay Tracker Fuels Chinese DDoS Attacks \| TorrentFreak [ http://ur1.ca/jj76b ]		Jan 25 06:01
XFaCE	here's a clusterfuck	Jan 25 06:01
XFaCE	"The suspicion that Chinese efforts to censor the Internet have something to do with the problems seems plausible. Querying Chinese DNS servers returns many seemingly random IP-addresses that change all the time. "	Jan 25 06:02
gde33	XFaCE: hahaha	Jan 25 06:02
XFaCE	yep	Jan 25 06:02
XFaCE	beautiful	Jan 25 06:02
XFaCE	gde33: and let's not forget during the SOPA shit	Jan 25 06:04
XFaCE	"The MPAA's Michael O'Leary showed support for regimes that censor the internet, by saying that "the internet isn't broken" in places like China and Iran... He really should spend some time there speaking to those who have been censored. "	Jan 25 06:04
XFaCE	gde33: slowclap...clap..clap...clap	Jan 25 06:04
gde33	I one time suggested we add the mpaa website as the default tracker to all torrents so that they can keep track of what we are doing	Jan 25 06:04
gde33	as a random act of kindness	Jan 25 06:04
XFaCE	gde33: plus, they'll get more traffic	Jan 25 06:05
gde33	yeah	Jan 25 06:05
XFaCE	I bet they'd like that	Jan 25 06:05
gde33	I wonder howmany gigahits per second that would do	Jan 25 06:05
gde33	it is really strange how lone persons can oppose the whole world like this	Jan 25 06:06
gde33	on the other end of the spectrum we see whole races and religions profiled by the acts of single indeviduals	Jan 25 06:09
XFaCE	well to be fair, I profile the MPAA based on Michael here	Jan 25 06:09
XFaCE	I think it's pretty typical	Jan 25 06:10
gde33	he quit the job anyway :D	Jan 25 06:11
gde33	“Having accomplished most of my goals at the MPAA, I am excited to move on to new career challenges,"	Jan 25 06:12
XFaCE	gde33: he ain't not one but 99 doughnuts!	Jan 25 06:14
XFaCE	*ate	Jan 25 06:14
gde33	interesting how they earn millions by forcing people to do things for them	Jan 25 06:15
XFaCE	gde33: Also, he deposited fecal matter in their waste facilities and verbal diarhea in the press statements	Jan 25 06:15
gde33	one does not simply pull dns records	Jan 25 06:18
XFaCE	yep, the MPAA vision for the internet - like China, random sporatic DDOSing	Jan 25 06:19
XFaCE	gde33: I suppose it'd be more equitable - before you could have been DDOSed for a reason, a cause, or something	Jan 25 06:19
XFaCE	now everyone can be ddosed for no reason whatsoever!	Jan 25 06:20
XFaCE	it's up to the great firewall - knows all DNS, sees all DNS	Jan 25 06:20
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/559153608894054401	Jan 25 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: #Librem15, first free s/w GNU/Linux laptop (- some Intel blobs), makes funding goal cc @schestowitz http://t.co/oabKKnahEP via @ZDNet @sjvn		Jan 25 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com \| Librem 15, the first free software GNU/Linux laptop, makes funding goal \| ZDNet		Jan 25 06:21
XFaCE	schestowitz: intel blobs?	Jan 25 06:21
schestowitz	yes	Jan 25 06:22
XFaCE	in which component?	Jan 25 06:22
schestowitz	nor sure...	Jan 25 06:27
schestowitz	*not	Jan 25 06:27
cubexyz	a free laptop would be something like a thinkpad X60 with coreboot	Jan 25 07:22
cubexyz	or lemote	Jan 25 07:22
cubexyz	laptops are a problem actually	Jan 25 07:26
cubexyz	I haven't really seen one with interchangeable parts	Jan 25 07:27
cubexyz	unless you want an Osborne, which was a luggable not a laptop	Jan 25 07:28
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cubexyz	hold on a sec, looks like the librem 15 does use coreboot	Jan 25 07:33
cubexyz	so it is a step forward	Jan 25 07:34
cubexyz	Librem 15 needs the Intel FSP, otherwise known as the "Intel Memory Reference Code"	Jan 25 07:36
cubexyz	so the FSP would have to be analyzed to create source code for the controller and memory initialization process	Jan 25 07:38
cubexyz	http://puri.sm/posts/bios-freedom-status/	Jan 25 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm \| BIOS Freedom Status \| Purism [ http://ur1.ca/ji4m3 ]		Jan 25 07:39
cubexyz	there are "more free" laptops out there, but it looks like the FSF is working on it, which is good	Jan 25 07:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Broadwell HD Graphics 5500: Windows 8.1	Jan 25 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	vs. Linux http://t.co/4UzA17svIf	Jan 25 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jj85m	Jan 25 08:05
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arossdotme	cubexyz: interchangeable cpu,ram,graphics in a user friendly module : http://rhombus-tech.net	Jan 25 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rhombus-tech.net \| Rhombus-Tech		Jan 25 10:40
arossdotme	and for example the wifi in the tablet is a off the shelf module laptop module so it's upgradable. i forgot the name of the standard	Jan 25 10:41
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cubexyz	thanks arossdotme	Jan 25 11:07
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 25 11:10
DaemonFC	2 hrs ·	Jan 25 11:10
DaemonFC	The Mac to Windows malware ratio has been moving decidedly in favor of using Windows. Since XP, Microsoft has gotten the number of infected PCs per 100,000 down by 2/3rds while Mac malware has exploded.	Jan 25 11:10
DaemonFC	Microsoft has been taking security more seriously these days while Apple still (1) doesn't care at all, (2) denies that there is a problem with Mac OS even as it continues to turn into a playground for malware by instructing their support representatives to play dumb and not help people disinfect their Mac, and (3) convinces people who have been the victim of Mac malware to keep quiet about it.	Jan 25 11:10
DaemonFC	Item 3 is easy because people naturally don't want to admit to having made a mistake, like spending 2-3 times as much on a Mac and then getting fucked over in the end anyway, so like iPhone users, they insist it always works, even though it doesn't.	Jan 25 11:10
DaemonFC	http://www.zdnet.com/pictures/five-antivirus-scanners-for-mac/	Jan 25 11:10
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 25 12:05
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Jan 25 12:05
DaemonFC	Some iPhone customers have noticed that the four major carriers are charging them an "upgrade fee" to get the new iPhone 6 even if their contract is up. The "upgrade fee" is in addition to the up front cost of the iPhone.	Jan 25 12:05
DaemonFC	Why can carriers do that? They realize that they're mostly dealing with idiots. Idiots with deep pockets. In other words, "Never give a sucker an even break.".	Jan 25 12:05
DaemonFC	http://consumerist.com/2014/09/12/the-only-way-to-avoid-paying-a-fee-for-iphone-upgrade-is-to-pay-full-price/	Jan 25 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-consumerist.com \| The Only Way To Avoid Paying A Fee For iPhone Upgrade Is To Pay Full Price – Consumerist [ http://ur1.ca/jja2v ]		Jan 25 12:05
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schestowitz	DaemonFC: good point	Jan 25 12:29
DaemonFC	I thought it was a nice touch. "$40 upgrade fee" just for iPhones. Hahahaaa!	Jan 25 12:30
DaemonFC	These carriers are fucking parasites. Like, they're already selling you a $600-700 phone every couple of years, and that's on top of the monthly bill that's at least $90. The "phone insurance" policy is mostly profit for them too.	Jan 25 12:32
DaemonFC	You don't even get a new phone if something happens to yours.	Jan 25 12:32
DaemonFC	What they do is they take a refurbished phone (maybe not even done by the original manufacturer which means higher chance that it wasn't properly refurbished), or a used one that someone else traded in, and hand it to you.	Jan 25 12:33
DaemonFC	AT&T offers refurbished phones from the get-go now. You save a whopping $40 off of a $600 phone and take your chances that it won't still be defective when you get it.	Jan 25 12:34
DaemonFC	I think that the days where good phones start at around $500-600 are numbered.	Jan 25 12:34
DaemonFC	Too many good phones are starting to surface that are less than $200.	Jan 25 12:35
schestowitz	Android has free upgrades	Jan 25 12:38
DaemonFC	Well, the software, sure.	Jan 25 12:38
DaemonFC	I meant upgrading the hardware.	Jan 25 12:38
DaemonFC	The whole software upgrade thing depends mostly on which phone you buy.	Jan 25 12:39
DaemonFC	Stick to Nexus, Motorola, Samsung, or LG imo.	Jan 25 12:39
DaemonFC	My LG G2 has been great.	Jan 25 12:39
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schestowitz	hi dyfet	Jan 25 12:49
dyfet	hi!	Jan 25 12:50
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559340976784027649 https://twitter.com/HistoricaITweet/status/559330869077213184 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559338541797617666 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559335846428807168	Jan 25 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: ‘It’s like a ghost town’: lights go out as foreign owners desert #London homes http://t.co/Xgg97nQZUP http://t.co/cq7QKr2YF0		Jan 25 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| ‘It’s like a ghost town’: lights go out as foreign owners desert London homes \| UK news \| The Guardian		Jan 25 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| London needs homes, not towers of ‘safe-deposit boxes’ \| Peter Wynne Rees \| Comment is free \| The Guardian		Jan 25 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HistoricaITweet: V.E. Day, 8th of May, 1945, London. By Wolfgang Suschitzky http://t.co/wcbbQ5K01t		Jan 25 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HistoryPixs: V.E. Day, 8th of May, 1945, London. By Wolfgang Suschitzky http://t.co/d7e1QrHpko		Jan 25 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "GOP presidential hopeful...keynote...group that has blamed gay people for causing the Holocaust" http://t.co/lCd0YGUkFy #gop		Jan 25 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mediamatters.org \| The Jindal-Hate Group Relationship You Won't Hear About This Weekend \| Blog \| Media Matters for America		Jan 25 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #canada Planned Military Splurge Comes At The Expense Of Health Care⁰ http://t.co/TNJy1zcKeq turning from #uk standards to #us standards		Jan 25 13:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.projectcensored.org \| Harper's Planned Military Splurge Comes At The Expense Of Health Care		Jan 25 13:26
– Ethics Alerts
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559331811332206592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559330786588237825 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559330675338518528	Jan 25 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another misleading headline that neglects to say #chromebooks already come with #linux http://t.co/3BkhuPDlVG they mean "a distro"		Jan 25 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com \| Google makes it easier to run Linux on a Chromebook via a USB drive…sort of… – Jim Lynch		Jan 25 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Which Android device works with Now TV? http://t.co/WDILV5Nonh #android #linux		Jan 25 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Which Android device works with Now TV? - Telegraph		Jan 25 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Rcpp 0.11.4 http://t.co/sOeJAuBvGw 0.11.4 "Rcpp has become the most popular way of enhancing #GNU R with C++ code."		Jan 25 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dirk.eddelbuettel.com \| Thinking inside the box		Jan 25 13:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559323511689592832 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559323142204968960	Jan 25 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Truth is so obscure https://t.co/wIVVqn3h4r		Jan 25 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nypd http://t.co/Ao7YMYbqSI #police		Jan 25 13:27
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5481656	Jan 25 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OmnBWelO4G8/VMTsOUJH7SI/AAAAAAAACC4/69ePf8xAfoA/w1365-h827-no/gnu-pc-mac.png) [hier gefunden](https://plus.google.com/u/0/101895113808276700521/posts/18RU5HFjPLr?pid=6108266725290536226&oid=101895113808276700521) #linux #science #mac #pc #advertising #gnulinux #opensource #openmind		Jan 25 16:44
schestowitz	"you did? how come you put #mono in there? :D"	Jan 25 16:44
schestowitz	"oh, it's the ass, now I understand"	Jan 25 16:44
schestowitz	Yes, back when we fought (successfully) to remove mono from distros (by default)	Jan 25 16:45
MinceR	https://www.eff.org//deeplinks/2015/01/britons-you-have-72-hours-stop-snoopers-charter	Jan 25 17:03
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Vandahmier/status/559406766207672320	Jan 25 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vandahmier: RT @schestowitz We're Destroying the Planet in Ways That Are Even Worse Than #GlobalWarming http://t.co/yyJhqjCG4b http://t.co/Xi9vN2FvEA		Jan 25 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: We're Destroying the Planet in Ways That Are Even Worse Than #GlobalWarming http://t.co/XzEou0lrVi		Jan 25 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vandahmier: RT @schestowitz We're Destroying the Planet in Ways That Are Even Worse Than #GlobalWarming http://t.co/yyJhqjCG4b http://t.co/Xi9vN2FvEA		Jan 25 17:47
MinceR	#GlobalHumanInfestation	Jan 25 17:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/RutaAkula/status/559416987567546368 https://twitter.com/KomalPorwal/status/559417085261262849	Jan 25 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RutaAkula: @schestowitz Mother of IS-held Japanese hostage calls for release of son ----> [http://t.co/Z7GQoNlZXm]		Jan 25 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsroompost.com \| Mother of IS-held Japanese hostage calls for release of son - NewsroomPost		Jan 25 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KomalPorwal: @schestowitz Oil surges after Saudi King’s death [http://t.co/JKnaPN6Dmp]		Jan 25 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsroompost.com \| Oil surges after Saudi King's death - NewsroomPost		Jan 25 18:27
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559387213658873856 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559389331417497601 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559394101662334976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559394912693944320 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559395626870665217 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559395930643107841	Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Linux has this handled" https://t.co/EGuAQHlRd8		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: De-hyping 'the Cloud' https://t.co/2DxtXFGGyJ		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Intel #Broadwell HD #Graphics 5500: #Windows 8.1 vs. #Linux http://t.co/Tpm5kXzQTK		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com \| Intel Broadwell HD Graphics 5500: Windows 8.1 vs. Linux Review - Phoronix		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Even When Sharing Top Billing with Edward Snowden, the #NSA Is Unrepentant https://t.co/Yv7qqO1i7J DeLong's remarks		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org \| Even When Sharing Top Billing with Edward Snowden, the NSA Is Unrepentant - The Intercept		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Who Can Control N.S.A. Surveillance? http://t.co/mYUBUJ116Z #nsa #surveillance		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newyorker.com \| Who Can Control N.S.A. Surveillance? - The New Yorker		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NIST pledges transparency in #NSA dealings over #crypto standards http://t.co/tEAt85aysL too late. #nist now perceived like #darpa		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| NIST pledges transparency in NSA dealings over crypto standards - PC Advisor		Jan 25 19:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559396536229322753 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559396735253221377 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559397663557562368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559398086519562240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559398401503404032	Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Kim Dotcom's NSA-Dodging MegaChat is HERE And It Wants To DESTROY Skype http://t.co/iLsSBsJ9Rn Spype http://t.co/KMvkOGSpsu		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.knowyourmobile.com \| Kim Dotcom's NSA-Dodging MegaChat is HERE And It Wants To DESTROY Skype \| Know Your Mobile		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Skype is Spy Campaign - Techrights		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Registered Mega users can try the platform for free at mega." http://t.co/qiYC8u5aXa		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hindustantimes.com \| 'Anti-NSA' messaging service MegaChat debuts in beta version		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cia was created for intelligence but ended up with assassination, torture, coups etc. #nsa created for intelligence, now cracking, defaming		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Everyone has something with need to hide from someone or someones (e.g. certain family, friends, maybe foreign governments). Reject spying.		Jan 25 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Shut it Down: Utah Bill Would Turn Off Water to #NSA Data Center http://t.co/LW3JslD1rk #utah joins many other states		Jan 25 19:31
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559398636401201152 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559399046394441728 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559400267108843520	Jan 25 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Netherlands not the NSA’s lapdog: Interior Minister http://t.co/cEe4JW8W83 rejecting the metaphor maybe, not the facts		Jan 25 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nltimes.nl \| Netherlands not the NSA's lapdog: Interior Minister - NL Times		Jan 25 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Left in #greece https://t.co/f8gSVabzH2		Jan 25 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #china realises that #apple has back doors http://t.co/18Drsn9C2Z http://t.co/B632MbQynd see http://t.co/QeQyS4PqE9		Jan 25 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cultofmac.com \| China will screen all Apple products for NSA backdoor \| Cult of Mac		Jan 25 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.technologytell.com \| China to look at Apple products, fears NSA tampering \| TechnologyTell		Jan 25 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Apple — Like Microsoft — Not Interested in the Security of Its Operating Systems \| Techrights		Jan 25 19:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Flavors 15.04 Vivid Vervet Alpha 2	Jan 25 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	Released http://t.co/szzDEG6Nx9	Jan 25 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 20:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjeof	Jan 25 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Flavors 15.04 Vivid Vervet Alpha 2 Released \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 20:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenSSL 1.0.2 Branch Release notes	Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/h0JhrhjWmH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf0e	Jan 25 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OpenSSL 1.0.2 Branch Release notes \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to install Linux on a Chromebook	Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ngRL3kZTUx (www.digitaltrends.com)	Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	also new: Replace Windows 7 With Linux Mint	Jan 25 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| How to Install Linux on a Chromebook \| Digital Trends		Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QcdGkQLp8O	Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.everydaylinuxuser.com)	Jan 25 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| Replace Windows 7 With Linux Mint Without Overwriting Other Partitions « Everyday Linux User		Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf0f	Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Completely open source, high-end laptop gets	Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	closer to reality http://t.co/cSjgKWw8va	Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.engadget.com)	Jan 25 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com \| Completely open source, high-end laptop gets closer to reality		Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf0i	Jan 25 21:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Signs of progress: One month with Android Wear	Jan 25 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	5.0 http://t.co/UBHTwxVvZZ (arstechnica.com)	Jan 25 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf4q	Jan 25 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Signs of progress: One month with Android Wear 5.0 \| Ars Technica		Jan 25 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calibre Gets a New Tool to Better Edit eBooks	Jan 25 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LvuvPzhSXO (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 25 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf4r	Jan 25 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Calibre Gets a New Tool to Better Edit eBooks - Softpedia		Jan 25 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Star Traders: 4X Empires Strategy Game Now On	Jan 25 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/GKG6K23u1C	Jan 25 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 25 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf4s	Jan 25 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Star Traders: 4X Empires Strategy Game Now On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 25 21:46
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MinceR	gn	Jan 25 22:00
schestowitz	nn	Jan 25 22:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JesperBothPede1/status/559472727095271425	Jan 25 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JesperBothPede1: @wikileaks Big surprise, eh? Check out yahoo and youtube and last but not least microsoft( just to be sure )		Jan 25 22:24
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5481876	Jan 25 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kim Dotcom's NSA-Dodging MegaChat is HERE And It Wants To DESTROY Skype http://www.knowyourmobile.com/devices/megachat/23020/kim-dotcoms-nsa-dodging-megachat-here-and-it-wants-destroy-skype Spype http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Skype_is_Spy_Campaign		Jan 25 23:26
schestowitz	"exactly; same will be with all those MEGA things if they don't open-source them"	Jan 25 23:26
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/559492504454590467	Jan 25 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: Cc @ggreenwald @ioerror @schestowitz @NafeezAhmed & my friends at Google: my quick thoughts on #Kissinger at Google. https://t.co/S17ZxJFNS2		Jan 25 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> plus.google.com \| This particular interview of Dr. Henry Kissinger from mid-2013, apart from…		Jan 25 23:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ekiga 5 – Progress Report	Jan 26 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/T5Srg2TEwu (blog.ekiga.net)	Jan 26 00:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyanogen Wants to Wrestle Android Away From	Jan 26 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	Google http://t.co/hZDPpyJBOA (gizmodo.com)	Jan 26 00:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Netrunner 14.1, a GNU/Linux distribution based	Jan 26 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	on Kubuntu, featuring KDE as the default ... is	Jan 26 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	now available" http://t.co/weF9KJC1gy	Jan 26 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 00:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus Can Be Set to Always	Jan 26 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	Show in Ubuntu 15.04 http://t.co/6YmlvafiZy	Jan 26 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 00:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Integrate Linux Kernel 3.19	Jan 26 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	Branch Soon http://t.co/hmT5jldUyZ	Jan 26 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 00:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 reasons Valve's Steam Machine dream is still	Jan 26 00:31
TweetTuxMachines	very alive http://t.co/mMk4ZrBgkX	Jan 26 00:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Build Your Own Open-Source SmartWatch	Jan 26 00:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus Can Be Set to Always	Jan 26 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	Show in Ubuntu 15.04 http://t.co/G8cZvLPXic	Jan 26 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 00:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Integrate Linux Kernel 3.19	Jan 26 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	Branch Soon http://t.co/dZd7VVsWGh	Jan 26 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 00:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tizen Samsung Z1, made in India and soon to be	Jan 26 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	available in Bangladesh http://t.co/9k1J80BZWJ	Jan 26 00:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/7iMCwTsv3c	Jan 26 00:32
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*TweetTuxMachines @speedytux retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Build Your Own Open-Source SmartWatch http://t.co/NA0Hq5Szdg'		Jan 26 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 25/1/2015: Android Wear 5.0, Tizen in	Jan 26 00:32
TweetTuxMachines	Bangladesh http://t.co/Ziedoyizrw	Jan 26 00:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/FMvOiHRn4U	Jan 26 00:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/aYKDAVln3j	Jan 26 01:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/gl9Yiud1Wb	Jan 26 01:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fixing unperceived errors in my X Windows	Jan 26 01:00
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cubexyz	this is a little old, but worthy of attention:	Jan 26 02:34
cubexyz	http://thebreakfastpost.com/2012/06/17/repairable-laptops/	Jan 26 02:35
cubexyz	thinkpads don't have a bad lifespan	Jan 26 02:36
cubexyz	I still have a working R30 which I use a fair bit	Jan 26 02:37
cubexyz	so 13 years old	Jan 26 02:37
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 26 04:03
DaemonFC	5 mins · Edited ·	Jan 26 04:03
DaemonFC	Apple's software quality, such that it ever existed to begin with, is falling deeper into the garbage.	Jan 26 04:03
DaemonFC	When you pay $800 for a cell phone, is it acceptable that things like text messaging sometimes don't work because of bugs in the operating system?	Jan 26 04:03
DaemonFC	http://www.infoworld.com/article/2873356/applications/for-too-many-apple-users-it-doesnt-just-work.html	Jan 26 04:03
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| @lobrien Holy crap: IBM to cut over 100K employees:	Jan 26 04:05
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| retweeted by http://t.co/ndYjoFgwWn (www.itworld.com)	Jan 26 04:05
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| @gewt	Jan 26 04:05
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| ........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjhbz	Jan 26 04:05
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> who was i talking to recently that predicted this?	Jan 26 04:05
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XFaCE	[23:05:18]<schestowitz> [02:12] <qu1j0t3> who was i talking to recently that predicted this?	Jan 26 06:55
XFaCE	schestowitz: you?	Jan 26 06:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MBARI testing the waters with open source	Jan 26 07:10
TweetTuxMachines	camera http://t.co/fxvOeofEnz	Jan 26 07:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.19-Rc6 Released	Jan 26 10:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux Xfce 7.1 Released.	Jan 26 10:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu's Mir Gains Server-Side Platform Probing	Jan 26 10:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MakuluLinux Xfce 7.1 Released.	Jan 26 10:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu's Mir Gains Server-Side Platform Probing	Jan 26 11:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: Android Wear's First	Jan 26 11:39
TweetTuxMachines	Generation Champion http://t.co/ShN9OA3w2J	Jan 26 11:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.forbes.com)	Jan 26 11:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Updates Its Android Compatibility	Jan 26 11:40
TweetTuxMachines	Definition Document For Lollipop	Jan 26 11:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/eNcdd1f79I (www.androidpolice.com)	Jan 26 11:40
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XFaCE	schestowitz: I assume you want to write about that new Android vulnerability	Jan 26 13:59
XFaCE	schestowitz: Basically I can see the narrative being pushed through three points	Jan 26 14:00
XFaCE	- Microsoft supported Windows XP/7/etc. for year, why doesn't Google support old Android versions	Jan 26 14:01
XFaCE	*years	Jan 26 14:01
XFaCE	- Google told Microsoft about a very old bug in their software, so they are hypocritical	Jan 26 14:01
XFaCE	- Heartbleed bug was fixed way back for 4.1.1	Jan 26 14:02
XFaCE	schestowitz: for the last point, it's a bullshit comparison because a) 4.1.1 was one point release where upgrading to 4.1.2 fixed the issue (it was already fixed back when 4.1.2 was released)	Jan 26 14:03
XFaCE	b) The fix was one file, as evident by XDA members patched it themselves on phones manufacturers refused to upgrade to 4.1.2 SOURCE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712916	Jan 26 14:05
XFaCE	c) As shown by the link, a lot of manufacturers DIDN'T update certain 4.1.1 devices to 4.1.2, hence proving Google's point. The fix there was SIMPLE, but the OEMs didn't bother to do it	Jan 26 14:05
XFaCE	With Webview, not only is webview involved, but so is the webkit rendering engine	Jan 26 14:06
XFaCE	so the fix for all those previously releases is much more complicated	Jan 26 14:06
XFaCE	as for the second point, Google did catch it, with KitKat, and furthermore made KitKat supported on more low-end devices so theoretically older 512mb or less devices could be updated	Jan 26 14:08
XFaCE	schestowitz: for example, HTC said (when Jelly Bean 4.1 came out) that they would not update any device with 512 mb of RAM (SOURCE: http://www.cnet.com/news/htc-one-v-and-desire-c-will-never-get-jelly-bean/ )	Jan 26 14:10
XFaCE	schestowitz: so naturally when KitKat came out, they updated those devices because the OS officially was designed for such low ram devices	Jan 26 14:12
XFaCE	oh wait	Jan 26 14:12
XFaCE	http://www.androidpit.com/android-4-4-kitkat-update-plans	Jan 26 14:12
XFaCE	"Later this year, the entry-level smartphone the HTC Desire 500, should also be seeing the KitKat update. However, the One X, One X+, One S, and One V will be left in the dust and will be receiving no more official updates from HTC.	Jan 26 14:13
XFaCE	"	Jan 26 14:13
XFaCE	so the OEMs are at fault for not upgrading the devices, not Google	Jan 26 14:13
XFaCE	which leads to point 1 - Google doesn't control the Android OEMs like Microsoft does	Jan 26 14:14
XFaCE	OEM pay Microsoft for the support whereby Microsoft controls all updates, Google doesn't	Jan 26 14:14
XFaCE	get paid	Jan 26 14:15
XFaCE	or have the agremeent in that way	Jan 26 14:15
XFaCE	the OEMs like HTC could easily fix this by porting Kitkat to those devices, but they won't cause they want you to buy a new HTC phone	Jan 26 14:15
XFaCE	or whatever phone brand	Jan 26 14:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: Android Wear's First	Jan 26 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	Generation Champion http://t.co/wCtHvKQLao	Jan 26 14:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Updates Its Android Compatibility	Jan 26 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Definition Document For Lollipop	Jan 26 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	@iArthurCDN http://t.co/eNcdd1f79I (www.androidpolice.com)	Jan 26 14:50
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx1O6RELDCRYHQN&newContentID=Mx2N04P4QX68HRC#Mx2N04P4QX68HRC	Jan 26 15:38
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 26 15:38
DaemonFC	It gets worse. Not wanting to take personal responsibility for anything they do, the Republicans in Indiana have given a blank check to a state-owned corporation called the "Indiana Economic Development Corporation" to do this sort of stupid crap on their behalf, while insulating them from the political fallout from actually having to vote for it.	Jan 26 15:38
DaemonFC	Every year, millions upon millions of Indiana taxpayer dollars flow through this corporation, which "picks winners and losers" and hands million dollar check to companies like Walmart to create jobs that would have been created either way.	Jan 26 15:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OEMs Adapt To The Decline In The Market For PCs	Jan 26 17:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015 XOrg Elections Get Underway For Board	Jan 26 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	Members, SPI Merger http://t.co/ILKzck3hQp	Jan 26 18:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How open source can be a gateway to your next	Jan 26 18:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OEMs Adapt To The Decline In The Market For PCs	Jan 26 18:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015 http://t.co/5vV90o4wJB (www.x.org)	Jan 26 19:30
TweetTuxMachines	Elections Get Underway For Board Members, SPI	Jan 26 19:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source empowers city archive Hospitalet	Jan 26 19:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Redmond’s ‘Free’ Gambit http://t.co/dzXFHKPm7Y	Jan 26 19:30
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MinceR	http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/23/google-reveals-zero-day-mac-exploits/	Jan 26 19:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Portugal engineering lab: facts favour open	Jan 26 20:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Conjuring Android's best features	Jan 26 20:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4YnuRNMrBM (www.heraldtribune.com)	Jan 26 20:05
TweetTuxMachines	#android #linux	Jan 26 20:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IPFire Is a Powerful Firewall Distro and It Was	Jan 26 20:06
TweetTuxMachines	Just Updated http://t.co/7SUfSlCf5k	Jan 26 20:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Linux Terminal Commands That Will Rock Your	Jan 26 20:16
TweetTuxMachines	World	Jan 26 20:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/GwARo4UukW	Jan 26 20:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open source software for quantum information	Jan 26 20:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 7.8 "Wheezy" Live CD Now Available for	Jan 26 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	Download http://t.co/BXSZB55BMg	Jan 26 20:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IPFire Is a Powerful Firewall Distro and It Was	Jan 26 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	Just Updated http://t.co/AfBGJi2GxW	Jan 26 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 20:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 7.8 "Wheezy" Live CD Now Available for	Jan 26 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	Download http://t.co/pmOdVhVa44	Jan 26 20:28
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 20:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD FX-8320E Performance On Linux	Jan 26 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/D9JWVwN9Kr (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 26 21:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MatchStick Hands-On: A Cheap Open Source	Jan 26 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	Chromecast? Yes Please. http://t.co/K0AoXfL1Sq	Jan 26 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gizmodo.com.au)	Jan 26 21:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Frameworks 5 based apps available in copr	Jan 26 21:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AMD FX-8320E Performance On Linux	Jan 26 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/peJmy1ER4q (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 21:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MatchStick Hands-On: A Cheap Open Source	Jan 26 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	Chromecast? Yes Please. http://t.co/qUjcuAJn0E	Jan 26 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 21:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why I prefer Samsung Gear’s Tizen to Android	Jan 26 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	Wear http://t.co/B8FT0OSaBQ	Jan 26 21:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 21:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Xfce 0.8.12 RC1 Is a Surpring Release	Jan 26 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	That Further Improves the Xfce Experience	Jan 26 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FFestNq7gy (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 21:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Project Ara Modules Will Be Compatible	Jan 26 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	with BLOCKS Modular Smartwatch	Jan 26 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/69uzRKSpTn (mobile.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 21:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 8.0 "Jessie" RC1 Is Here, Test Away	Jan 26 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/km9QGdx9B5 (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JEzBK5fDuB (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 26 21:14
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MinceR	http://www.washingtonsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Squirrels.jpg	Jan 26 21:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyanogen CEO says he wants to ‘take Android	Jan 26 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	away from Google’ http://t.co/7qaRJ1XMv3	Jan 26 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.greenbot.com)	Jan 26 21:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines gimp-paint-studio addon soon on Gnome Software	Jan 26 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	Center http://t.co/VuVhanivAK	Jan 26 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.thefinalzone.net)	Jan 26 21:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nouveau In Linux 3.20 Will Have A Lot Of Code	Jan 26 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	Cleaning http://t.co/PEX3CTy9FU	Jan 26 21:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 26 21:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why I prefer Samsung Gear’s Tizen to Android	Jan 26 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	Wear http://t.co/4JhrB4xQyR	Jan 26 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidauthority.com)	Jan 26 21:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Compiz Support Being Tested for Ubuntu MATE	Jan 26 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	14.04 LTS and Ubuntu 14.10, Install Now	Jan 26 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OeKCjaaB9A (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 21:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35.0.1 Now Out – My God, It's Full of	Jan 26 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes http://t.co/5z5SCH5twD	Jan 26 21:33
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 21:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evolve OS Is a Superb New OS Built from	Jan 26 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	Scratch, First Beta Is Out – Gallery	Jan 26 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/T85tStyKOq (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 26 21:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35.0.1 Now Out – My God, It's Full of	Jan 26 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes http://t.co/gWbWIgXIwQ	Jan 26 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjs0u	Jan 26 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 8.0 "Jessie" Installer RC1 Released	Jan 26 21:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sKtpMtKdml (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 21:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/uagGHMIKJu	Jan 26 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 22:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Nouveau In Linux 3.20 Will Have A Lot Of Code	Jan 26 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	Cleaning http://t.co/UdR0eOPhvK	Jan 26 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 22:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evolve OS Is a Superb New OS Built from	Jan 26 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	Scratch, First Beta Is Out – Gallery	Jan 26 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/uAuk9M87YF (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 22:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 26/1/2015: Debian 8.0 “Jessie” RC1, Linux	Jan 26 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel 3.19 RC6 http://t.co/nyeU5w0hVq	Jan 26 22:24
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 26 22:24
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 26 22:25
DaemonFC	I wonder how many more Republican chances at the White House Rmoney can blow before the Kochs give up and hire someone to assassinate him.	Jan 26 22:25
MinceR	lol	Jan 26 22:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/kMJKrDjWI8	Jan 26 23:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 23:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/sDLmpfYNI4	Jan 26 23:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 23:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft’s Media Attack on Free Software and	Jan 26 23:12
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux http://t.co/rcs6o8pzsK	Jan 26 23:12
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 26 23:12
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 27 00:23
DaemonFC	14 mins · Edited ·	Jan 27 00:23
DaemonFC	Indiana Governor Mike Pence is going to pull a Vladimir Putin and start his own miniature "Russia Today". Is this even America?	Jan 27 00:23
DaemonFC	Apparently, hizzoner doesn't believe the real news is being fair to him, so apparently the new game plan is "waaah waah waaaah make crap up"....	Jan 27 00:23
DaemonFC	tongue emoticon	Jan 27 00:23
DaemonFC	Do you prefer realfact or goodfact, comrades? I'm a realfact kind of guy. smile emoticon	Jan 27 00:23
DaemonFC	http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/01/26/pence-starts-state-run-news-outlet-to-compete-with-media/22370005/	Jan 27 00:23
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 27 00:24
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Jan 27 00:24
DaemonFC	You know that shit is about to go down when your Governor starts his own personal website to compete with the news.	Jan 27 00:24
DaemonFC	Maybe I need to accelerate my timetable to bail on Indiana, which is the meth capital of the world and a broken banana republic.	Jan 27 00:24
DaemonFC	You guys can enjoy El Jefe as many times as you want him.	Jan 27 00:25
cubexyz	a lot of windows users are checking out my linux notes	Jan 27 00:36
cubexyz	rather odd	Jan 27 00:38
cubexyz	most of them seem to be Windows NT 6.2	Jan 27 00:40
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 27 01:00
DaemonFC	1 min · Edited ·	Jan 27 01:00
DaemonFC	Welcome to the Republic of Penceistan, comrades!	Jan 27 01:00
DaemonFC	Penceistani industry best in world! We invent toffee and trouser press! wink emoticon	Jan 27 01:00
DaemonFC	Penceistani prostitutes cleanest in the region, except of course for Ohiostaaaaan... Dah dah dah dah dah dah dah!	Jan 27 01:00
DaemonFC	http://wane.com/2015/01/26/pence-to-launch-state-run-news-service-in-indiana/	Jan 27 01:00
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SilverSlimer	how are you guys doing	Jan 27 01:10
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 27 01:12
DaemonFC	Someone asked if Fox News wasn't already letting him do and say whatever he wanted.	Jan 27 01:12
DaemonFC	I replied:	Jan 27 01:12
DaemonFC	I could never tell if Fox News or the Wall Street Journal was being more kind to Governor Mike Pence. I guess I'd say the WSJ since they let him write an article all by himself. Now that he's going to run his own news site with state money that will publish his propaganda verbatim, day in, and day out, he can do as many as he wants without having to ask the even more Uber James Bond Villains for permission. Muahahahahahaa!!!!	Jan 27 01:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/Bg1HFlbiQv	Jan 27 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjtps	Jan 27 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/um05us5iSj	Jan 27 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 01:24
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SilverSlimer	since this is the techrights.org official channel, I have to ask: other than Dr. Schestowitz, does anyone write for techrights?	Jan 27 01:24
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/IndianaProgressives/posts/874017019307536?comment_id=874094959299742&offset=0&total_comments=2&notif_t=share_reply	Jan 27 01:41
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Will this be passed before or after they spend tax money to fund Pence's state-owned news agency that sounds like something out of a former Soviet Republic?	Jan 27 01:41
DaemonFC	David Harding This won't go anywhere as long as the GOP controls this state and the GOP is contriolled by the right wingers, business and tea turds.	Jan 27 01:41
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer I wouldn't be so sure. Never put anything past them when it benefits them. You don't think that Pence's rag will be praising the Republicans in the State Duma? Errr. That's "General Assembly" in oldspeak.	Jan 27 01:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wireless-enabled i.MX6 SBC offers remote IoT	Jan 27 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	management http://t.co/Y8mncmZfC3	Jan 27 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 01:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Forked: All for Devuan and Devuan for	Jan 27 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	All? http://t.co/96Lva5VQ3P	Jan 27 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjtv8	Jan 27 01:50
*TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter...		Jan 27 01:51
DaemonFC	http://wp.me/p4ySsJ-kpX	Jan 27 02:45
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 27 02:46
DaemonFC	3 mins · Edited ·	Jan 27 02:46
DaemonFC	Great news kids! Your parents can send you off for college packing an iPhone that runs more spyware than usual. Joy!	Jan 27 02:46
DaemonFC	A new app lets parents track their adult children through their crApple spyPhone to "make sure they're attending class".	Jan 27 02:46
DaemonFC	Here's an idea. Put the spyPhone in your back pocket and sit on it. Be free! FREE!!! glasses emoticon	Jan 27 02:46
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 27 04:12
DaemonFC	http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/bmv-to-outsource-license-plate-production	Jan 27 04:12
DaemonFC	Indiana license plates will no longer be made by Indiana prisoners. They'll be made by California prisoners instead.	Jan 27 04:12
DaemonFC	The current set up has the Indiana state government paying a private contractor to subcontract to another company to "employ" prisoners that are already imprisoned by the state of Indiana.	Jan 27 04:12
DaemonFC	Just some of those layers and layers of Republican efficiency we're always hearing so much about.	Jan 27 04:12
DaemonFC	I say we send Pence to prison and have him stamp some license plates.	Jan 27 04:12
DaemonFC	He deserves to be "ennobled" with a productive job while he pays his debt to society. And good god, have you seen the man!? He could stand a little physical exercise. Have him work off those mantitties. It's embarrassing to have him show up in a military costume that says "Commander in Chief" with that, ahem, bust size.	Jan 27 04:12
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DaemonFC	Facebook appears to be down.	Jan 27 06:16
cubexyz	ok, I need to point out the absurdity of fossforce.com running microsoft ads	Jan 27 06:32
cubexyz	it's probably becauase fossforce is knocking windows 10 but still :)	Jan 27 06:33
cubexyz	ok, maybe they don't care and ad money is money but... I think it's a bad idea	Jan 27 06:34
DaemonFC	Who cares?	Jan 27 06:35
DaemonFC	The money spends. :)	Jan 27 06:35
DaemonFC	As long as they don't go all SourceForge on us...	Jan 27 06:35
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 27 06:35
cubexyz	I think it's just careless to let that happen	Jan 27 06:35
cubexyz	you can block ads by domain name	Jan 27 06:36
cubexyz	not that I think fossforce is going to sell a lot of Surface Pro 3's, so no point running the ads	Jan 27 06:37
cubexyz	also the Surface Pro 1 and 2 were ranked dead last in repairability	Jan 27 06:40
cubexyz	just saying	Jan 27 06:40
cubexyz	"tons of adhesive and screws, opening the device risks shearing the display cables"	Jan 27 06:41
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/fossforce-microsoft-ad.png	Jan 27 06:45
DaemonFC	http://thenextweb.com/facebook/2015/01/27/facebook-instagram-right-now/	Jan 27 06:45
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 27 09:01
sebsebseb	MinceR: schestowitz good looks like I can see RIchard Stallman speak agian and also see John Sulivan speak. Karan Sander to possibly	Jan 27 09:02
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schestowitz	> old:	Jan 27 17:56
schestowitz	>	Jan 27 17:56
schestowitz	> http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/barrett-brown-faces-105-years-in-jail-20130905	Jan 27 17:56
schestowitz	>	Jan 27 17:56
schestowitz	> ==	Jan 27 17:56
schestowitz	>	Jan 27 17:56
schestowitz	> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/25/wikileaks-google-staff-emails-us-government	Jan 27 17:56
schestowitz	Google has a lot of my mail because many people us gmail	Jan 27 17:56
schestowitz	*use	Jan 27 17:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Opera 27 Stable Web Browser Released With Tab	Jan 27 19:06
TweetTuxMachines	Preview Back, Install In Ubuntu, Linux Mint And	Jan 27 19:06
TweetTuxMachines	Others http://t.co/mS6D43CvBX	Jan 27 19:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 19:06
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 27 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Opera 27 Is the First Stable Version in 2015,	Jan 27 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	Tab Previews Are Back http://t.co/aNLkOewkPI	Jan 27 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) Proprietary though,	Jan 27 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	still...	Jan 27 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk1y1	Jan 27 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines China-Based Android Developer APUS Lands $100M	Jan 27 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	For New Services And Global Focus	Jan 27 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/I1y1P3gpXT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk1y3	Jan 27 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition	Jan 27 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	portables with M3800 monster	Jan 27 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QqjHhg7g0v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk1y6	Jan 27 19:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Is A New Chromium-Based Web Browser For	Jan 27 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	Power Users http://t.co/o29MM1KPas	Jan 27 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.webupd8.org)	Jan 27 20:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why screen lockers on X11 cannot be secure	Jan 27 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YYv5ZBklGy (error)	Jan 27 20:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5.2 Is Beautiful and Featureful	Jan 27 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zJMUM5dx09 (dot.kde.org)	Jan 27 20:24
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MinceR	lol @ wayland ad	Jan 27 20:25
MinceR	wayland can't even capture or warp the pointer	Jan 27 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny $26 WiFi-ready IoT SBC runs OpenWRT Linux	Jan 27 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YOErxpjMe3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2aa	Jan 27 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why screen lockers on X11 cannot be secure	Jan 27 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZPtqRrkLmz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2ab	Jan 27 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5.2 Is Beautiful and Featureful	Jan 27 20:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Xs1aDOAlKb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 20:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Grim Fandango Remastered Has Strangely High	Jan 27 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	System Requirements for Linux	Jan 27 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6oqQ5iQzMh (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 27 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2j6	Jan 27 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines China-Based Android Developer APUS Lands $100M	Jan 27 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	For New Services And Global Focus	Jan 27 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hDb5OZCESH (techcrunch.com)	Jan 27 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2j7	Jan 27 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny $26 WiFi-ready IoT SBC runs OpenWRT Linux	Jan 27 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wSJI0QjSQb (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 27 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2j8	Jan 27 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition	Jan 27 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	portables with M3800 monster	Jan 27 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9siFYJcFLI (arstechnica.com)	Jan 27 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2l3	Jan 27 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines White House CTO calls for open source APIs,	Jan 27 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	visibility for women http://t.co/Awjce2SjkB	Jan 27 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 20:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux Allinone Edition 11.0 Is a Complete OS	Jan 27 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/t1rlIdWDMM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2l8	Jan 27 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GHOST, a critical Linux security hole, is	Jan 27 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	revealed http://t.co/5yZHlSD4aQ	Jan 27 20:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 20:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines High-end 'upstream' Linux laptop plans to ship	Jan 27 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	in April http://t.co/CMpl1o2iqi (m.phys.org)	Jan 27 21:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android essentials: 13 apps I can't live	Jan 27 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	without http://t.co/3vGAx0L6Lc	Jan 27 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerworld.com)	Jan 27 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2rs	Jan 27 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Real-time enabled Sitara SoC shows up on a COM	Jan 27 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/M7FPPwH6MY (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 27 21:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2rv	Jan 27 21:14
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DaemonFC	http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/vivaldi-web-browser-linux-download-power-users	Jan 27 21:31
DaemonFC	https://vivaldi.com	Jan 27 21:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android continues to increase its market share	Jan 27 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	at others’ expenseby http://t.co/Bv041NUOa7	Jan 27 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.dailynewsegypt.com)	Jan 27 21:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android essentials: 13 apps I can't live	Jan 27 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	without http://t.co/NucMhEeKBg	Jan 27 21:32
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2yr	Jan 27 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines High-end 'upstream' Linux laptop plans to ship	Jan 27 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	in April http://t.co/xguo4XmKYo	Jan 27 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 21:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2ys	Jan 27 21:32
MinceR	https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/RzSZFYWn7sX	Jan 27 21:33
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5490300	Jan 27 22:09
schestowitz	"What happened to "we do not spy on Americans"? I had the idea they were exceptional."	Jan 27 22:09
schestowitz	"	Jan 27 22:09
schestowitz	Maybe the US eagle is not just bald but deaf too, I hear no freedom:	Jan 27 22:09
schestowitz	http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/23014512.jpg	Jan 27 22:09
schestowitz	"	Jan 27 22:09
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5485013	Jan 27 22:10
schestowitz	":) → spam dump yard"	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Real-time enabled Sitara SoC shows up on a COM	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vP4EfRRPoe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk3ba	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android continues to increase its market share	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	at others’ expenseby http://t.co/fmEOwKT6Ue	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk3bd	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open-source development of Pirate Bay	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	replacement could make site immune to police	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	takedown http://t.co/8VkC03uv1y	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 22:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk3be	Jan 27 22:10
sebsebseb	schestowitz: I get to see RMS speak again soon and go for a intering dinner and so on to	Jan 27 22:24
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schestowitz	sebsebseb: fantastic, where?	Jan 27 23:20
schestowitz	FOSDEM?	Jan 27 23:20
schestowitz	and is her keynoting there?	Jan 27 23:21
sebsebseb	schestowitz: yeah Karen doing a key note on Saturday	Jan 27 23:21
sebsebseb	,but there's a meal with her and Bkuhm	Jan 27 23:21
sebsebseb	on FRiday :d	Jan 27 23:21
sebsebseb	after the RMS talk	Jan 27 23:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/oshwm/status/560213055296897024	Jan 27 23:21
sebsebseb	schestowitz: seem's that's going to be quit a big one	Jan 27 23:21
sebsebseb	and the one to go to	Jan 27 23:21
schestowitz	Maybe share among colleagues, based on Snowden's experience	Jan 27 23:22
sebsebseb	schestowitz: do you know about Jolla?	Jan 27 23:22
schestowitz	yes	Jan 27 23:22
sebsebseb	yeah I got one	Jan 27 23:22
sebsebseb	awesome :)	Jan 27 23:22
schestowitz	we love it here and want to use it	Jan 27 23:22
sebsebseb	Jolla pone	Jan 27 23:22
sebsebseb	oh?	Jan 27 23:22
schestowitz	is ti on sale here?	Jan 27 23:22
sebsebseb	schestowitz: oh and a guy from Jolla live nar me so got him to come along to the LUG that was good :)	Jan 27 23:22
sebsebseb	here as in, inside the UK no	Jan 27 23:23
sebsebseb	,but you can buy the phone directly from Finland	Jan 27 23:23
schestowitz	just finland	Jan 27 23:23
schestowitz	that's what I remembered	Jan 27 23:23
sebsebseb	yes but they ship globally	Jan 27 23:23
schestowitz	and they sold lots there	Jan 27 23:23
sebsebseb	I havne't decided Saturdya night yet	Jan 27 23:23
sebsebseb	Magiea will do something probably at the pizza place from lastyear	Jan 27 23:23
sebsebseb	,but	Jan 27 23:23
sebsebseb	there's a Jolla dinner going on to with like 30 or so people	Jan 27 23:23
sebsebseb	may go to that instead if can get into that still, but not sure	Jan 27 23:24
sebsebseb	schestowitz: not really that interested in Mageia anymore	Jan 27 23:24
sebsebseb	so many community issues and such uh	Jan 27 23:24
sebsebseb	I mean the actsal community side of runningg things etc	Jan 27 23:24
sebsebseb	wel that's how I feel anyway	Jan 27 23:24
sebsebseb	seems certain community contributiosn aren't really taken eriosuly enough as well and things like that to	Jan 27 23:25
sebsebseb	schestowitz: oh an so much for getting a Mageia stand at say OGG Camp	Jan 27 23:26
sebsebseb	I mean with a few volunteers	Jan 27 23:26
sebsebseb	it seems	Jan 27 23:26
sebsebseb	schestowitz: yeah Jolla is aweosme, an interesting thing for sure :)	Jan 27 23:26
*sebsebseb looks forward to getting his tablet in May as well :)		Jan 27 23:26
sebsebseb	Jolla tablet	Jan 27 23:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IT pros to move to open source software in 2015	Jan 27 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5HSZimXFvh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk42f	Jan 27 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Community Wants Homeworld Remastered	Jan 27 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/moaqFNy15b (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 27 23:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@REALMattRichie @Android essentials: 13 apps I can't live	Jan 27 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	without http://t.co/y19qgYSaWK	Jan 27 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org) \| via @tuxmachines	Jan 27 23:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyanogen aims to make Android a fully open	Jan 27 23:45
TweetTuxMachines	platform http://t.co/mkDkWtX6Zo	Jan 27 23:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.bizjournals.com)	Jan 27 23:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Game Apps Are Becoming As Profitable As	Jan 27 23:46
TweetTuxMachines	Those On The iPhone http://t.co/He6k7i37SE	Jan 27 23:46
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com)	Jan 27 23:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Presto TV turns on Android support	Jan 27 23:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KVpX6NUnNf (www.techradar.com)	Jan 27 23:46
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*TweetTuxMachines @GetAppeer favourited 'Android Game Apps Are Becoming As Profitable As...'		Jan 28 00:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 27/1/2015: Plasma 5.2, Dell Precision	Jan 28 00:46
TweetTuxMachines	With GNU/Linux http://t.co/JINSFUKfCI	Jan 28 00:46
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 28 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk4my	Jan 28 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mobie Is a Tablet That Dual-Boots Ubuntu 14.04	Jan 28 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	LTS and Windows 8.1 http://t.co/TALgVXEqbe	Jan 28 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk4n1	Jan 28 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/cW3CsWUwaa	Jan 28 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk4n3	Jan 28 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/DGXXxWutQE	Jan 28 00:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 00:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/ZI493b0OoR	Jan 28 04:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 04:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk6g9	Jan 28 04:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/Wu6aVP0U3k	Jan 28 04:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 04:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Stable Released, Install In	Jan 28 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu/Linux Mint http://t.co/lvpnAjVdfC	Jan 28 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk710	Jan 28 05:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition	Jan 28 05:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by portables with M3800 monster	Jan 28 05:52
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux http://t.co/QqjHhg7g0v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 05:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk72x	Jan 28 05:52
*TweetTuxMachines @speedytux favourited 'Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition portables with M3800...'		Jan 28 05:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Is A New Chromium-Based Web Browser For	Jan 28 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Power Users http://t.co/o29MM1KPas	Jan 28 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux (www.webupd8.org)	Jan 28 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk73z	Jan 28 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5.2 Is Beautiful and Featureful	Jan 28 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by https://t.co/zJMUM5dx09 (dot.kde.org)	Jan 28 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux	Jan 28 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk740	Jan 28 05:56
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75	Jan 28 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Academic Essay Samples!!!	Jan 28 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qxP9dWn50Y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 09:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The	Jan 28 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone http://t.co/n3EM1E1wiU	Jan 28 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8pg	Jan 28 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The iPhone \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 09:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones	Jan 28 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kI9gs7XxRJ (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 28 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8rb	Jan 28 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones		Jan 28 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Star-Hopper for KStars https://t.co/LbWeITADvX	Jan 28 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	(thegreatercode.wordpress.com)	Jan 28 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8rc	Jan 28 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thegreatercode.wordpress.com \| Star-Hopper for KStars \| Hacking for KStars		Jan 28 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AppStream 0.8 released! http://t.co/LD7eArV1XW	Jan 28 09:17
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.tenstral.net) "the cross-distribution	Jan 28 09:17
TweetTuxMachines	standard for software metadata"	Jan 28 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.tenstral.net \| AppStream 0.8 released! \| Ximions Blog		Jan 28 09:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8rd	Jan 28 09:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What is a good command-line IRC client on Linux	Jan 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/A6KnW0C2CN (xmodulo.com)	Jan 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8y1	Jan 28 09:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The	Jan 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone http://t.co/xaQSYTYFfz	Jan 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com)	Jan 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8y3	Jan 28 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com \| Android Phones Versus iPhone - Business Insider		Jan 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic	Jan 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20	Jan 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Hnwf7D5DDq (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8y4	Jan 28 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20 - Phoronix		Jan 28 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The	Jan 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by iPhone http://t.co/n3EM1E1wiU	Jan 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	@voidquest44 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk91u	Jan 28 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The iPhone \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones	Jan 28 09:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OOtpc47hbq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk91x	Jan 28 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.4 the beautiful	Jan 28 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/A65bZGnrOa (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9cr	Jan 28 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.4 the beautiful \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic	Jan 28 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20	Jan 28 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OKRmAIFGZo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9cs	Jan 28 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20 \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Citizens call on Dortmund to use free software	Jan 28 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YHAvGmJiaq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9cu	Jan 28 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Citizens call on Dortmund to use free software \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch apps can run in windowed mode	Jan 28 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FNAp2UvBty (liliputing.com)	Jan 28 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9fy	Jan 28 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com \| Ubuntu Touch apps can run in windowed mode - Liliputing		Jan 28 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Square tries to make open source “welcoming and	Jan 28 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	inspiring” to women http://t.co/D3tFTS1y4R	Jan 28 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9fz	Jan 28 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Square tries to make open source “welcoming and inspiring” to women \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch apps can run in windowed mode	Jan 28 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LRLlFSJgms (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 10:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9g0	Jan 28 10:36
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/youtube-declares-html5-video-ready-for-primetime-makes-it-default/	Jan 28 11:06
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Sosumi	yepi-ki-iai	Jan 28 11:07
schestowitz	great stuff, seen it...	Jan 28 11:07
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5494364	Jan 28 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Koch Brothers' Network Aims to Spend $889 Million on the 2016 Elections http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/koch-brothers-889-million-2016-elections #billgates spends $billion in 3 years just bribing media		Jan 28 11:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or	Jan 28 11:07
TweetTuxMachines	Aesthetic http://t.co/ST13E7xFhi	Jan 28 11:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.datamation.com)	Jan 28 11:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9p2	Jan 28 11:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or	Jan 28 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	Aesthetic http://t.co/kPpijJ2I1U	Jan 28 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA's Latest Maxwell Line-Up Against AMD	Jan 28 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	With Catalyst On Linux http://t.co/UBOYya76Y8	Jan 28 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 28 13:05
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkapo	Jan 28 13:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA's Latest Maxwell Line-Up Against AMD	Jan 28 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	With Catalyst On Linux http://t.co/IN3rV0ek9S	Jan 28 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice for Android coming soon	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PNcqrgIrX1 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 reasons asynchronous communication is better	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	than synchronous communication in open source	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yjHywyXXYX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkar6	Jan 28 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 reasons asynchronous communication is better than synchronous communication in open source \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel New DLC ‘Lady	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	Hammerlock The Baroness Pack’ Lands On Linux	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JVXc6sL558 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkar7	Jan 28 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel New DLC ‘Lady Hammerlock The Baroness Pack’ Lands On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 28 13:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 5 Best Android Games of January 2015	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Z5ItE0oxwb (heavy.com)	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkasa	Jan 28 13:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Witcher 2 Has A New Beta For Linux, The	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	Improvements Are Staggering	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oTgPJVF1Uy (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkasb	Jan 28 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Witcher 2 Has A New Beta For Linux, The Improvements Are Staggering \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Scirra’s 'Construct' Game Creation Editor To	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	Support Linux With Construct 3	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2lBYHgFkEM (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 13:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkasc	Jan 28 13:14
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XFaCE	schestowitz: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/28/canada-cse-levitation-mass-surveillance	Jan 28 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-firstlook.org \| Canada Casts Global Surveillance Dragnet Over File Downloads - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/jkash ]		Jan 28 13:14
XFaCE	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cse-tracks-millions-of-downloads-daily-snowden-documents-1.2930120	Jan 28 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca \| CSE tracks millions of downloads daily: Snowden documents - Canada - CBC News [ http://ur1.ca/jkasj ]		Jan 28 13:14
cubexyz	XFaCE, good find	Jan 28 13:41
cubexyz	ugh, CBC and their stupid ads	Jan 28 13:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.10 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Gets Fix for	Jan 28 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	Unbound Vulnerability	Jan 28 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QYJcz6aYGn (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkbgh	Jan 28 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 14.10 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Gets Fix for Unbound Vulnerability - Softpedia		Jan 28 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines e-a-fantastic-looking-3d-adventure-game-shows-linux-progress.4886/	Jan 28 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkbgi	Jan 28 14:28
*TweetTuxMachines @tuxmachines deleted 'e-a-fantastic-looking-3d-adventure-game-shows-linux-progress.4886/'		Jan 28 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cradle, A Fantastic Looking 3D Adventure Game	Jan 28 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	Shows Linux Progress https://t.co/Sn44PkPkBl	Jan 28 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 14:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkbgj	Jan 28 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Cradle, A Fantastic Looking 3D Adventure Game Shows Linux Progress \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 28 14:28
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XFaCE	cubexyz: that's why there's the intercept link :)	Jan 28 15:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced	Jan 28 16:30
TweetTuxMachines	and Stable Version Available	Jan 28 16:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Km2uhGCwNX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd3z	Jan 28 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced and Stable Version Available \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker chief operator: Why the open source	Jan 28 16:30
TweetTuxMachines	container project is taking a new shape	Jan 28 16:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Fs9PR2BI35 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd44	Jan 28 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Docker chief operator: Why the open source container project is taking a new shape \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons Your Company Should Open Source More	Jan 28 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	Code http://t.co/t2mv6qqnXy	Jan 28 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9a	Jan 28 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 5 Reasons Your Company Should Open Source More Code \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy	Jan 28 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	Driver for Users with Old Cards	Jan 28 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TgiaODpN3s (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9b	Jan 28 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy Driver for Users with Old Cards \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Xfce 0.9.0 Pre2 Arrives with Lots of	Jan 28 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes, Already Looks Promising	Jan 28 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nxKM8qnb1F (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9c	Jan 28 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Xfce 0.9.0 Pre2 Arrives with Lots of Fixes, Already Looks Promising \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download	Jan 28 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	Lots of Freeware http://t.co/IExUCQdZgM	Jan 28 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9d	Jan 28 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download Lots of Freeware \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35.0.1 Is Now Available for Ubuntu	Jan 28 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	Supported OSes http://t.co/ti53GlJjkB	Jan 28 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdn4	Jan 28 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Firefox 35.0.1 Is Now Available for Ubuntu Supported OSes \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qualys Starts Self-Promotional FUD Campaign,	Jan 28 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	Naming a Bug That Was Already Fixed 2 Years Ago	Jan 28 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/n4bgUcMbMp (techrights.org)	Jan 28 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdn6	Jan 28 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Qualys Starts Self-Promotional FUD Campaign, Naming a Bug That Was Already Fixed 2 Years Ago and Distros Have Covered With Patches \| Techrights		Jan 28 17:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/wC8TwZiTqx	Jan 28 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 17:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdn7	Jan 28 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 17:28
XFaCE	MinceR: so filelockers shouldn't be visited either without a VPN it seems	Jan 28 17:35
XFaCE	VPN all the things!!	Jan 28 17:36
MinceR	:>	Jan 28 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced	Jan 28 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	and Stable Version Available	Jan 28 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/z08zIc8ssG (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdqe	Jan 28 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced and Stable Version Available - Softpedia		Jan 28 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker chief operator: Why the open source	Jan 28 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	container project is taking a new shape	Jan 28 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gtLCnAKoDh (www.zdnet.com)	Jan 28 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdqf	Jan 28 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Docker chief operator: Why the open source container project is taking a new shape \| ZDNet		Jan 28 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy	Jan 28 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	Driver for Users with Old Cards	Jan 28 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/17x736IIKT (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdqg	Jan 28 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy Driver for Users with Old Cards - Softpedia		Jan 28 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Xfce 0.9.0 Pre2 Arrives with Lots of	Jan 28 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes, Already Looks Promising	Jan 28 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iiKzS3aay7 (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdsw	Jan 28 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro Xfce 0.9.0 Pre2 Arrives with Lots of Fixes, Already Looks Promising - Softpedia		Jan 28 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS	Jan 28 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	Taking Over the World of IT	Jan 28 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9cU5xWITWA (mrpogson.com)	Jan 28 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdsx	Jan 28 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS Taking Over the World of IT \| Robert Pogson		Jan 28 17:45
*TweetTuxMachines @DataHuge favourited 'IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS Taking...'		Jan 28 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35.0.1 Is Now Available for Ubuntu	Jan 28 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	Supported OSes http://t.co/nGCdpLb1hG	Jan 28 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Firefox 35.0.1 Is Now Available for Ubuntu Supported OSes - Softpedia		Jan 28 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvl	Jan 28 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download	Jan 28 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	Lots of Freeware http://t.co/Ej0ZDQwkmB	Jan 28 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.howtogeek.com)	Jan 28 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com \| Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download Lots of Freeware		Jan 28 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvn	Jan 28 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "A large amount of vendor software runs on	Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, so there’s plenty of systems	Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	administration to do" http://t.co/x4Xx2L2ZN0	Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	(opensource.com)	Jan 28 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| My open source career as a systems librarian \| Opensource.com		Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvo	Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/KT05WRXPr3	Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvp	Jan 28 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Political parties favour openness to	Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	reconstruct Greek productivity	Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Zk1lGIyadK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvs	Jan 28 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Political parties favour openness to reconstruct Greek productivity \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 17:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS	Jan 28 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	Taking Over the World of IT	Jan 28 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/b6FH8aAGIB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdyw	Jan 28 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS Taking Over the World of IT \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 18:01
*TweetTuxMachines @DataHuge favourited '"A large amount of vendor software runs on...'		Jan 28 18:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Development with ARM mbed on Linux	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sGIURywrsA (www.linux.com)	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke8y	Jan 28 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Embedded Development with ARM mbed on Linux \| Linux.com		Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Humble Weekly Bundle: Je Suis Charlie Has Linux	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	Support and It Ends Tomorrow	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yJv4Muip9z (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke90	Jan 28 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Humble Weekly Bundle: Je Suis Charlie Has Linux Support and It Ends Tomorrow - Softpedia		Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Confessions of a systems librarian	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KmjApim21T (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke94	Jan 28 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Confessions of a systems librarian \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Development with ARM mbed on Linux	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PnsYHd2v61 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke98	Jan 28 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Embedded Development with ARM mbed on Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE 5 (Plasma 5.2.0) available for Slackware	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	-current http://t.co/hr7T5ESGLs	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke9c	Jan 28 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE 5 (Plasma 5.2.0) available for Slackware -current \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Huge Coffee Table Can Switch Between	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	Android and Windows, No Joke	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vrcsdvVq36 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke9d	Jan 28 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| This Huge Coffee Table Can Switch Between Android and Windows, No Joke \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 reasons Android can be better than the	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/XYOtrJc19y (bgr.com)	Jan 28 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke9k	Jan 28 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| iPhone vs. Android: What to buy – features comparisons \| BGR		Jan 28 18:31
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Embedded Development with ARM mbed on Linux http://t.co/PnsYHd2v61'		Jan 28 18:31
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5494601	Jan 28 18:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Power outages http://www.washingtonsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Squirrels.jpg		Jan 28 18:41
schestowitz	"I wonder why there is no war on squirrels, maybe it would be not profitable."	Jan 28 18:41
schestowitz	But inhumane	Jan 28 18:41
*TweetTuxMachines @LeemonApps followed @tuxmachines		Jan 28 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/CfJMkWraGg	Jan 28 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkf29	Jan 28 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deploying tor relays http://t.co/GVKg9VlK5b	Jan 28 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkf2a	Jan 28 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Deploying tor relays \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Industrial box-PC takes Linux-on-Haswell to	Jan 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	extremes http://t.co/G7mgyQxtbT	Jan 28 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg0u	Jan 28 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Industrial box-PC takes Linux-on-Haswell to extremes \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Atomic Mode-Setting/Display Support Progresses	Jan 28 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	In Linux 3.20 http://t.co/QoLNzHdlCb	Jan 28 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg0w	Jan 28 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Atomic Mode-Setting/Display Support Progresses In Linux 3.20 \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download	Jan 28 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Lots of Freeware http://t.co/Ej0ZDQwkmB	Jan 28 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux (www.howtogeek.com)	Jan 28 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com \| Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download Lots of Freeware		Jan 28 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg2j	Jan 28 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "A large amount of vendor software runs on	Jan 28 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux, so there’s plenty of systems	Jan 28 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux administration to do" http://t.co/x4Xx2L2ZN0	Jan 28 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	(opensource.com)	Jan 28 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg2k	Jan 28 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| My open source career as a systems librarian \| Opensource.com		Jan 28 21:13
*TweetTuxMachines @empirical_ly favourited '"A large amount of vendor software runs on...'		Jan 28 21:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Kdenlive, the Linux video editor I want	Jan 28 22:16
TweetTuxMachines	to use http://t.co/KpzBKLD2xV	Jan 28 22:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 22:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkgx1	Jan 28 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Review: Kdenlive, the Linux video editor I want to use \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 22:16
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5471266	Jan 28 22:33
schestowitz	"Okay, but that's a slightly different shade of the problem. Even under the BSD license, patent trolling is, ahem, an abuse."	Jan 28 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ‘It just works’? Not so for too many #Apple users http://www.infoworld.com/article/2873356/applications/for-too-many-apple-users-it-doesnt-just-work.html		Jan 28 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com \| ‘It just works’? Not so for too many Apple users \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jidud ]		Jan 28 22:33
schestowitz	"	Jan 28 22:34
schestowitz	I must now revise my opinion of Jobs and Gates. Their greatest achievement was warping our definition of "theft" and "stealing". When ordinary people make a library of a books, songs, or movies, they society thinks of them as thieves and pirates. The same society does not bat an eye when companies appropriate basic methods, math or look and feel. Copies that enrich the community are considered theft. Restrictions which dominate and	Jan 28 22:34
schestowitz	impoverish society are considered beneficial protection. This is an amazing double think.	Jan 28 22:34
schestowitz	Jobs used patents, trademarks, copyright, and trade secret to keep people from helping themselves.	Jan 28 22:34
schestowitz	"	Jan 28 22:34
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sebsebseb	MinceR: thing	Jan 28 22:57
sebsebseb	MinceR: ping even	Jan 28 22:57
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5497850	Jan 29 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Industrial box-PC takes Linux-on-Haswell to extremes http://linuxgizmos.com/industrial-box-pc-takes-linux-on-haswell-to-extremes/		Jan 29 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com \| Industrial box-PC takes Linux-on-Haswell to extremes · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/jkid0 ]		Jan 29 00:10
schestowitz	"+- $1000,- Nice box though! :)"	Jan 29 00:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560590244622635008 https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560590414038962176	Jan 29 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz Hmm, I didn't realize that when you said "culture" you meant to include organizations such as monastic orders.		Jan 29 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz It wouldn't surprise me to learn that boy monks in Tibet aren't allowed toy weapons. It would if they always obeyed, though.		Jan 29 00:10
schestowitz	Many toy guns are made in China but exported	Jan 29 00:11
sebsebseb	schestowitz: Did you see the Apple news?	Jan 29 00:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SteamersBaby/status/556828459197280256	Jan 29 00:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SteamersBaby: http://t.co/tjJ769Q6gk Pattens out of Greedy Gopher Guts masking as good ideas-check it out !! NO TTIP -Stop Distruction of Mother Earth !!		Jan 29 00:14
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/560591516461043713	Jan 29 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Open Source is better all-around; but still not "out of the woods" !!! Needs radically MUCH better LUCIDITY, Q.C. & s/w METHODS		Jan 29 00:15
sebsebseb	schestowitz: Richard Stallman yeah yeah, well tommoorwo as in FRiday	Jan 29 00:20
sebsebseb	I should be seeing him speak again	Jan 29 00:20
sebsebseb	,but in Brussels this time :)	Jan 29 00:20
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5498145	Jan 29 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Arab-American Group Asks 'American Sniper' Star And Director To Denounce Anti-Muslim Rhetoric http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/arab-american-group-calls-upon-clint-eastwood-and-bradley-cooper-denounce-anti-mulsim-rhe		Jan 29 00:55
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schestowitz	"they learnd her lessons from'judsuess' propaganda movie :("	Jan 29 00:55
schestowitz	Directed at other groups	Jan 29 00:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5498077	Jan 29 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Basically, you can mark this day in the calendar as the official date for the death of Flash" http://news.softpedia.com/news/Youtube-Says-Goodbye-to-Flash-HTML5-Is-Now-Default-471426.shtml #adobe #youtube		Jan 29 00:56
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schestowitz	"Been requesting the HTML5 player on youtube for ages."	Jan 29 00:56
schestowitz	It works well now	Jan 29 00:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5497898	Jan 29 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Review: Kdenlive, the Linux video editor I want to use http://www.networkworld.com/article/2876381/opensource-subnet/review-kdenlive-the-linux-video-editor-i-want-to-use.html #kde #kdenlive #gnu #linux		Jan 29 00:56
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schestowitz	"We'll definitely have to give this a shot. We've (my son and I) been suffering through Premiere Pro since Final Cut Pro went totally iMovie with its release of FCPX."	Jan 29 00:56
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/560606225327325184	Jan 29 01:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz EXCELLENT news! ALEC is big part of the corruption of USA Gov. & Congress. These corps have quit-- http://t.co/J2qFJcies5		Jan 29 01:17
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/560607418405490688	Jan 29 01:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Cold Case: Murder of Karen Silkwood by spooks. NYT forced HOLLYWOOD to censor the historic film to hide PLUTONIUM diversion.		Jan 29 01:17
msb_	How did the New York Times force censorship? IIRC, the missing Pu was given to IsraHell to start its nuclear bomb program.	Jan 29 01:55
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cubexyz	I hear Stallman is using a thinkpad these days	Jan 29 02:49
cubexyz	probably an x60 or t60	Jan 29 02:49
cubexyz	ah, here it is... Gluglug X60 laptop	Jan 29 02:51
cubexyz	a refurbished Lenovo Thinkpad	Jan 29 02:52
sebsebseb	cubexyz: well on Friday I get to see him speak agian	Jan 29 03:06
cubexyz	sebsebseb, where is that?	Jan 29 03:21
cubexyz	msb_, I'm actually a bit surprised a nuclear war didn't happen	Jan 29 03:26
cubexyz	when you consider the possibility of an accident...	Jan 29 03:26
msb_	cubexyz: There are a lot of safety circuits in those bombs, and if all the shaped-charges in the implosion ones don't fire at the same time, the core doesn't get compressed enough to detonate. At least that's how it was in a movie. 8^)	Jan 29 03:29
cubexyz	I feel much safer now	Jan 29 03:29
cubexyz	sort of :)	Jan 29 03:29
msb_	cubexyz: I hope the Russki ones are designed as carefully.	Jan 29 03:30
msb_	But right now, the US is apparently trying to start some kind of war with Russia, by supporting that Nazi coup in Ukraine. Things could get, er, interesting.	Jan 29 03:31
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cubexyz	things are interesting enough already	Jan 29 03:32
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msb_	cubexyz: Ever hear about the polio vaccines causing cancer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8FCJ_VPyns	Jan 29 03:37
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msb_	Sad, especially when Vitamin C was found to cure polio 100%. But the knowledge was suppressed because the drug companies couldn't make a profit from it. http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/4-Origin_Of_Vitamin_C_Treatment_For_Polio-Klenner.html	Jan 29 03:39
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msb_	http://portside.org/2015-01-29/germans-are-shock-new-greek-leader-starts-bang	Jan 29 09:36
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msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rhM1i43NK8	Jan 29 09:37
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msb_	.	Jan 29 09:58
msb_	http://portside.org/2015-01-28/internet-crowd-not-cloud	Jan 29 09:58
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msb_	Distributed "Web" hosting via browsers and bit-torrent type organization.	Jan 29 09:59
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cubexyz	ha, got the usb reset to work	Jan 29 13:13
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA	Jan 29 13:58
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cubexyz	the comments are priceless :)	Jan 29 14:05
msb_	Life is terrible here in central California. We don't get much snow, and now that we've eaten it all we're starving in our tents!	Jan 29 14:39
MinceR	maybe they'll let you into glorious north korea, though	Jan 29 14:39
MinceR	as a refugee	Jan 29 14:39
msb_	Yes, I so much would like all the benefits given by the Glorious Kim Jong Un!	Jan 29 14:41
MinceR	you could even eat tree bark	Jan 29 14:41
MinceR	which is a lot more delicious than birds.	Jan 29 14:41
msb_	The best are the food donations from North Korea!	Jan 29 14:41
MinceR	do you get those in california?	Jan 29 14:42
msb_	When we are lucky!	Jan 29 14:50
msb_	That movie The Interview about NK was pretty funny.	Jan 29 14:50
msb_	And it was even better to watch knowing that the glorious North Koreans stole it from the capitalist running dogs of Sony!	Jan 29 14:51
MinceR	:>	Jan 29 14:52
msb_	Sony deserved it for tying down the playstations so they couldn't be loaded with Socialist Linux!	Jan 29 14:54
MinceR	Red Flag Linux?	Jan 29 14:54
msb_	Glorious Socialist Linux!	Jan 29 14:54
msb_	Of course.	Jan 29 14:54
MinceR	or is that chinese?	Jan 29 14:54
msb_	Don't know. I just use the icons.	Jan 29 14:55
msb_	My local Chinese restaurant gets its fish from Vietnam. I sometimes test it with a geiger counter -- so far ok.	Jan 29 14:59
msb_	Every few months some people on the Net get hysterical about the radiation, but they show maps that are completely normal. I think they're confused.	Jan 29 15:02
msb_	Amazingly, K40 causes 4900 disintegrations per second inside every adult human body! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium-40	Jan 29 15:05
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MinceR	You are free to use any methods necessary but I want them alive - no disintegrations!	Jan 29 15:08
msb_	what, the potassium?	Jan 29 15:09
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MinceR	no :)	Jan 29 15:10
MinceR	http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/13951/why-does-vader-say-no-disintegration-to-boba-fett	Jan 29 15:10
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msb_	I actually eat KCl instead of NaCl to keep blood pressure lower. Maybe I glow in the dark!	Jan 29 15:10
msb_	Thus the Carbonite?	Jan 29 15:11
MinceR	i suppose so, though my memories are incomplete	Jan 29 15:12
msb_	Anyhow, Leia sure looked great in that bikini!	Jan 29 15:12
cubexyz	msb_, this guy is saying funvax is a hoax:	Jan 29 15:16
msb_	Somebody told me that too, but couldn't give proof.	Jan 29 15:17
msb_	The video looks authentic.	Jan 29 15:17
msb_	i.e., crappy	Jan 29 15:17
cubexyz	https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-funvax-pentagon-briefing-on-removing-the-god-gene.317/	Jan 29 15:17
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cubexyz	if it's a hoax, someone went to a lot of trouble	Jan 29 15:19
msb_	cubexyz: Thanks! The top and bottom brain slices are clearly the same -- matching fissures -- but the video says they're two different people, so it's lying.	Jan 29 15:25
cubexyz	ok, I figured it was a bit off	Jan 29 15:26
cubexyz	strange the things people do	Jan 29 15:26
msb_	the name "funvax" doesn't seem governmental either.	Jan 29 15:28
msb_	Weird if it drifted onto Israel and defanaticized the zionists!	Jan 29 15:30
cubexyz	I'm not a virulogist but that does seem a bit implausible :)	Jan 29 15:31
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cubexyz	er, virologist	Jan 29 15:32
msb_	I read years ago about govt attempts to make a virus/vaccine to inactivate the pleasure center of the brain so people wouldn't want heroin or cocaine.	Jan 29 15:32
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560851391628193793 https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560852032924692480	Jan 29 17:31
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560851391628193793 https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560852032924692480	Jan 29 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz How does that question even make sense? Hubbert's peak pertains to the derivative of logistic extraction.		Jan 29 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz (And, given the last six years, it seems like the logistic function is maybe a lousy fit to oil extraction on a decade scale.)		Jan 29 17:32
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5497904	Jan 29 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: These Are the Hottest New Open Source Projects Right Now http://www.wired.com/2015/01/black-duck-rookies/ #freesw		Jan 29 17:38
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schestowitz	"I'd take a closer look at MaidSafe before Storj."	Jan 29 17:38
DaemonFC	MinceR, Got any bird rations, comrade?	Jan 29 18:13
DaemonFC	I'll trade you some delicious snow coffe.	Jan 29 18:13
DaemonFC	*coffee	Jan 29 18:13
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MinceR	DaemonFC`: got some from KFC yesterday :>	Jan 29 19:41
MinceR	but i ate it already	Jan 29 19:41
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jgay	schestowitz, did you see our latest annoucnement? http://www.fsf.org/news/libreboot-x200-laptop-now-fsf-certified-to-respect-your-freedom	Jan 29 22:38
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jgay	also if you see it appear on reddit or hacker news or wherever could you let me know so I can try to be engaging in a timely manner in those places	Jan 29 22:38
msb_		Jan 29 22:39
msb_	jgay	Jan 29 22:39
jgay	msb_, huh?	Jan 29 22:39
msb_	jgay: Can it decode and play DVDs?	Jan 29 22:39
msb_	I don't know how FSF feels about the DVD decryption library.	Jan 29 22:41
msb_	Hopefully it will run Devuan when that's ready.	Jan 29 22:42
jgay	msb_, I don't know, it ships with Trisquel GNU/Linux, you can check on their site probably	Jan 29 22:44
msb_	jgay: I hope RMS and FSF will come out against systemd eventually.	Jan 29 22:45
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schestowitz	jgay: yes, my wife put that at tux machines as soon as she saw that in her fsf rss feed	Jan 30 01:30
schestowitz	I will post that later in some social networks	Jan 30 01:30
schestowitz	I was at work	Jan 30 01:30
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jgay	schestowitz, cool!	Jan 30 01:52
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cubexyz	I see coreboot supports Lenovo X200 now	Jan 30 03:41
cubexyz	things are really improving now	Jan 30 03:44
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DaemonFC	<msb_> jgay: I hope RMS and FSF will come out against systemd eventually.	Jan 30 07:48
DaemonFC	Why? It's foss.	Jan 30 07:48
msb_	DaemonFC: It's evil. It violates Unix/Linux design principles of simplicity, modularity, human-readable data. It churns the code of apps. It gives one or two people too much control over Linux systems.	Jan 30 07:50
msb_	There is much more evil in the world than people realize. It is concealed by its perpetrators. 9-11 and other false-flag attacks. The financing and arming of Hitler by 75% by some major US businessmen.	Jan 30 07:53
msb_	The denial and suppression of the ability of Vitamin C to cure viral diseases. The terrible side effects of vaccines. The huge inequality of wealth.	Jan 30 07:55
msb_	There's no reason for systemd to be designed the way it is, with the negative effects that that design has. That suggests it is designed that way for an evil reason. Fascist govts (and Microsoft) want to control or destroy Linux.	Jan 30 07:57
msb_	All the evils I've listed here are real. They are done by conspiracy -- i.e. secretly -- but they are NOT theories. There is plenty of proof for them all (except the real purpose of systemd).	Jan 30 07:58
msb_	DaemonFC: Are you there?	Jan 30 07:59
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 30 08:00
DaemonFC	I can't see how systemd harms things at all.	Jan 30 08:01
DaemonFC	If it did, someone could fork it. Apparently, nobody thinks it's worth doing that.	Jan 30 08:01
msb_	Read my website cosmicpenguin.com 911, Vitamin C, financing of Hitler by US businessmen are all well covered.	Jan 30 08:01
msb_	Devuan is forking Debian to get rid of it. Others are working on other means.	Jan 30 08:02
msb_	Bad design causes harm when things go wrong and have to be understood and repaired.	Jan 30 08:03
msb_	Bad design can be used to hide backdoors.	Jan 30 08:03
msb_	Good design is the main advantage of Unix/Linux.	Jan 30 08:04
MinceR	forking won't help, the design itself is broken	Jan 30 08:05
MinceR	that is, forking of systemd	Jan 30 08:05
MinceR	systemd is doing something that isn't worth doing	Jan 30 08:05
msb_	Right. Devuan is a fork of Debian that won't use systemd.	Jan 30 08:06
msb_	I have a lot of links to anti-systemd sites, but they are all in my browser bookmarks. I have to put them on my websites.	Jan 30 08:08
msb_	Also anti-vaccine links. I need to use some kind of	Jan 30 08:08
msb_	CMS so I can add stuff more easily. 8^)	Jan 30 08:09
msb_	Now it's just sed in bash scripts.	Jan 30 08:10
msb_	Someone in #trisquel told me it uses upstart, not systemd.	Jan 30 08:10
msb_	MinceR: From the little I know, the only worthwhile thing systemd does is deal with asynchronous events involving I/O gear, and there are much better ways of doing that.	Jan 30 08:11
msb_	The dozens of attacks by capitalist nations against socialist ones is another great evil.	Jan 30 08:14
msb_	Zionism and the attacks on Palestine. What all these have in common is robbing and controlling people. Psychopath behavior.	Jan 30 08:15
msb_	There's something going on in the US, being investigated by Janet Phelan and others.	Jan 30 08:16
msb_	Forced legal conservatorship of elderly people, and their subsequent robbery and murder. Corrupt judges and govt regulators are in on it.	Jan 30 08:17
msb_	http://janetphelan.com/	Jan 30 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-janetphelan.com \| Janet Phelan - Reporter at Large		Jan 30 08:17
msb_	vaccinated children having 120% more asthma, 317% more ADHD, 185% more neurological disorders and 146% more autism than those not vaccinated	Jan 30 08:23
msb_	A review at: http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-nation-Poisoning-Population-Shot-Time/dp/0984595422/	Jan 30 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com \| Vaccine-nation: Poisoning the Population, One Shot at a Time: Andreas Moritz: 9780984595426: Amazon.com: Books [ http://ur1.ca/jl5xu ]		Jan 30 08:23
msb_	It's to the advantage of evil govts and others to mess up the brains of people so they have difficulty detecting and dealing with the various evils, such as the enormous wealth inequality of capitalism.	Jan 30 08:25
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DaemonFC	Devuan will probably run out of steam and disappear.	Jan 30 09:06
DaemonFC	That's what tends to happen when not enough people find a fork useful.	Jan 30 09:06
msb_	DaemonFC: There are a lot of people who dislike systemd. Trinity desktop is still going strong because a lot of people don't like KDE4. I think there are some 50,000,000 Linux users. It only takes a few hundred to support a project, maybe a few thousand.	Jan 30 09:19
msb_	Hopefully the Devuan folks will follow the path of least effort -- utilize the Debian repos, change only what needs to be changed, etc. So they won't get overworked and exhausted.	Jan 30 09:24
msb_	DaemonFC: I think it's helpful to be optimistic. It leads to one saying and doing things that bring about a good future.	Jan 30 09:29
MinceR	msb_: trisquel uses whatever the ubuntu release it's based on uses	Jan 30 11:35
MinceR	> http://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/01/30/250bfbf5621b2f37.gif	Jan 30 11:35
MinceR	> Must be a catholic toy	Jan 30 11:35
msb_	MinceR: Yes, which I'm told (on #trisquel) is upstart.	Jan 30 11:36
msb_	MinceR: Why catholic?	Jan 30 11:37
MinceR	their priests are most famous for pedophilia and for protecting pedophiles from prosecution	Jan 30 11:39
msb_	Ah, yes.	Jan 30 11:39
MinceR	it's upstart now, but may not be in the next release.	Jan 30 11:39
msb_	Ick.	Jan 30 11:40
MinceR	also, geekings	Jan 30 11:40
msb_	MinceR: I hope the popular turn to socialism in Greece meets with your approval.	Jan 30 11:41
MinceR	i'm not sure what is meant by "turn to socialism" in this case	Jan 30 11:42
MinceR	so i'll just have to wait and see what happens.	Jan 30 11:42
msb_	They elected a socialist party with a good majority.	Jan 30 11:42
msb_	...Which is opposed to more "austerity" which means robbing the people to give money to the rich.	Jan 30 11:45
MinceR	that seems to be the point in greece	Jan 30 11:49
MinceR	that is, stopping "austerity"	Jan 30 11:49
msb_	yes. Capitalism is designed to have people work hard with little return, with the profits going to the rich.	Jan 30 11:50
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM	Jan 30 11:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Wealth Inequality in America - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/hb2ci ]		Jan 30 11:51
MinceR	like that takes a lot of design	Jan 30 11:52
msb_	It's taken hundreds of years.	Jan 30 11:53
msb_	A major factor is making working people believe that they aren't exploited slaves.	Jan 30 11:54
MinceR	actually in most human societies the powerful exploit the masses	Jan 30 11:55
MinceR	including most countries that call themselves "socialist", "communist", "people	Jan 30 11:55
MinceR	including most countries that call themselves "socialist", "communist", "people's republic", etc.	Jan 30 11:55
MinceR	i'm not sure if there's any human society that has no such exploitation	Jan 30 11:55
msb_	One way that's done is by convincing them that their ownership of private property -- their little home and car -- is equivalent to wealthy people owning factories and farms worth many millions of dollars.	Jan 30 11:55
MinceR	another way it's done is by convincing workers to ignore the dictator and the Inner Party and believe that everyone else is equal.	Jan 30 11:56
msb_	Truly democratic socialism, and social democracy, as in	Jan 30 11:56
msb_	scandinavia, do pretty well.	Jan 30 11:56
msb_	Socialism does not have to have a dictator. It can be democratic.	Jan 30 11:57
msb_	A major way that people are convinced to accept dictators is via commercial media. That's where the Internet and *Linux* can help a lot.	Jan 30 11:59
msb_	The Marxian idea of a "vanguard party" turned out to be a poor one, susceptible to psychopath takeover.	Jan 30 12:00
msb_	But the Soviet Union might have worked out a lot better if it hadn't been immediately attacked and invaded by armies of the capitalist nations which murdered millions.	Jan 30 12:08
msb_	That made the people willing to accept dictatorship and work hard to armor up instead of getting a better standard of living.	Jan 30 12:09
msb_	The same with the later invasion by the Nazis, which murdered I think 20 million Russians. That was 75% paid for by the wealthy of the U.	Jan 30 12:10
msb_	U.S.	Jan 30 12:10
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis	Jan 30 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Human Society That Works For Everyone		Jan 30 12:10
msb_	These attacks also motivated the leaders of the SU to have a line of "buffer states" around Russia. One of which was yours.	Jan 30 12:12
MinceR	somehow it's always someone else's fault	Jan 30 12:21
MinceR	never the russians'	Jan 30 12:21
MinceR	interesting	Jan 30 12:21
MinceR	then again, that's what cognitive dissonance does, i guess	Jan 30 12:22
msb_	It's not a matter of "fault". When people are struggling against murderous invaders, the first thing they attend to is survival -- staying alive.	Jan 30 12:28
msb_	If they had not built up a strong military, they would have all been slaughtered.	Jan 30 12:29
msb_	The wealthy capitalists wanted to destroy socialism because it would eliminate their huge profits.	Jan 30 12:30
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/	Jan 30 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Microsoft to invest in Cyanogen, which hopes to take Android from Google \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jkxi8 ]		Jan 30 12:30
msb_	So they used military mass murder to do it.	Jan 30 12:30
DaemonFC	uh oh	Jan 30 12:30
msb_	Is Android private propitty, or can anyone use it without paying?	Jan 30 12:31
DaemonFC	Most of it is open source.	Jan 30 12:32
DaemonFC	Some Google apps and Google Play Services are proprietary.	Jan 30 12:32
msb_	So Microshit and Cyanogen can't seize Android and prevent people from using it?	Jan 30 12:34
MinceR	yes, people are always struggling against murderous invaders, never against murderous dictators	Jan 30 12:35
MinceR	murderous dictators are the best thing people can have and they know it!	Jan 30 12:35
msb_	cyanogen is very toxic, as it readily undergoes reduction to cyanide, which poisons the cytochrome c oxidase complex -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanogen	Jan 30 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Cyanogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Jan 30 12:35
msb_	MinceR: That doesn't make any sense.	Jan 30 12:36
MinceR	indeed what you're saying doesn't make any sense.	Jan 30 12:36
MinceR	most of the time, anyway.	Jan 30 12:36
msb_	How are "murderous dictators the best thing people can have" ?	Jan 30 12:37
msb_	And what did I say that doesn't make sense?	Jan 30 12:38
msb_	MinceR: Do you realize that personal attacks without any facts to back them up don't accomplish anything?	Jan 30 12:45
MinceR	do you realize that nonsense communist propaganda that is completely divorced from reality doesn't accomplish anything?	Jan 30 12:46
msb_	Sure. And when have I written any?	Jan 30 12:47
msb_	Please cite actual examples.	Jan 30 12:47
MinceR	several times, including the last hour	Jan 30 12:47
msb_	Please cite actual examples.	Jan 30 12:47
MinceR	and no, i'm not going to copypaste what you just said.	Jan 30 12:47
msb_	Why not? It's because your accusation is false.	Jan 30 12:48
msb_	MinceR: You said that I wrote "nonsense communist propaganda that is completely divorced from reality". Why won't you prove that statement by quoting the alleged propaganda that you say I wrote.	Jan 30 12:52
msb_	MinceR: The answer is that you can't, because I didn't write any.	Jan 30 12:52
MinceR	because i'm not going to contribute to your crapflooding of this channel with insane propaganda	Jan 30 12:52
msb_	That's a bullshit excuse for your lying.	Jan 30 12:53
DaemonFC	"Right To Work" has backfired in Indiana.	Jan 30 12:55
msb_	MinceR: It always comes down to the same thing: You're so angry about past Russian domination of Hungary and present Orban fascism that you are unable to think or write rationally and logically about economic and political systems.	Jan 30 12:55
DaemonFC	Union membership has gone from 9.3% of workers to 10.6% of workers since the law was passed in 2012.	Jan 30 12:56
msb_	DaemonFC: That's a good beginning!	Jan 30 12:56
MinceR	msb_: worshipping putler because he comes from a regime that had some good-sounding slogans (which they ignored, of course) is not "rational" or "logical", it's idiotic.	Jan 30 12:57
MinceR	(good-sounding to you, that is.)	Jan 30 12:57
DaemonFC	msb_, I'm glad to see it rising again after decades of decline.	Jan 30 12:58
DaemonFC	Hopefully, the trend continues and bids wages back up.	Jan 30 12:58
msb_	MinceR: I have never worshipped Putin, who should not be called "putler" because he is not a fascist. I've said that the BRICS nations are opposing US fascist domination of the planet.	Jan 30 12:59
MinceR	yes, you've said a lot of things that have nothing to do with reality	Jan 30 12:59
MinceR	including that one	Jan 30 12:59
msb_	MinceR: Would you read articles about the BRICS nations opposing US fascist domination of the planet if I showed you some?	Jan 30 13:00
DaemonFC	Russia is going to be in some real trouble when their dollar reserves finally run out.	Jan 30 13:00
DaemonFC	They need dollars to bail out their corporations and banks.	Jan 30 13:00
DaemonFC	Eventually they'll have to bail the government itself out, and the only thing that will do that will be creating more rubles, which will intensify inflation.	Jan 30 13:01
msb_	DaemonFC: Well, they have a lot of oil, gas, and gold, and can sell it to the other BRICS nations.	Jan 30 13:01
MinceR	msb_: go bother (and highlight) someone else with your fascist propaganda.	Jan 30 13:01
MinceR	DaemonFC: well, they shouldn't have started a pointless war while their economy stood on so few legs.	Jan 30 13:02
DaemonFC	With oil below $60 a barrel, that sector can't continue to subsidize everything else.	Jan 30 13:02
MinceR	they should have considered themselves lucky for getting away with a lot less than nazi germany.	Jan 30 13:02
DaemonFC	Russia doesn't have an economy so much as they have oil and natural gas.	Jan 30 13:02
MinceR	indeed	Jan 30 13:02
msb_	Russia didn't start this war. The US and EU did, by backing a Nazi takeover of Ukraine.	Jan 30 13:03
DaemonFC	Russia launched an unprovoked attack and invasion.	Jan 30 13:03
MinceR	also, putler should have looked for a better way to justify his rule than pointless conquest adventures.	Jan 30 13:03
DaemonFC	Just like when they seized part of Georgia.	Jan 30 13:03
MinceR	indeed.	Jan 30 13:03
msb_	You've forgotten the Maidan coup?	Jan 30 13:04
MinceR	for example, he could have instead worked to drag russia into the 21th century.	Jan 30 13:04
msb_	http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 13:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca \| The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine \| Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ]		Jan 30 13:05
DaemonFC	I'm perfectly happy to sit back and watch Russia's economy fall apart. They deserve it.	Jan 30 13:07
MinceR	same here	Jan 30 13:07
msb_	DaemonFC: Why?	Jan 30 13:07
DaemonFC	I hope that the oil and gas prices stay low long enough to run Russia out of foreign currency reserves. Then things will get very interesting.	Jan 30 13:07
MinceR	i just hope they don't invite the russian army into hungary before that happens	Jan 30 13:07
MinceR	or into poland	Jan 30 13:08
msb_	Do you want to see the US murder more millions of people as it did in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya?	Jan 30 13:08
msb_	Did either of you read that article whose url I just posted?	Jan 30 13:09
DaemonFC	MinceR, Within about 6-9 months, Russia will exhaust their entire supply of US dollars.	Jan 30 13:10
MinceR	DaemonFC: that would be nice	Jan 30 13:10
msb_	Do you want the US to invade Russia and start a nuclear war?	Jan 30 13:13
MinceR	hopefully that will not be necessary	Jan 30 13:13
MinceR	also, russia is far more likely to start a nuclear war	Jan 30 13:13
DaemonFC	The United States is unlikely to start a nuclear war.	Jan 30 13:14
msb_	http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 13:14
DaemonFC	It's not an unstable country with an economy that is falling apart.	Jan 30 13:14
cubexyz	unix v6 lives on... it's been ported to phones in China	Jan 30 13:28
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DaemonFC	MinceR, I grabbed the wrong kind of soap at the store.	Jan 30 13:59
DaemonFC	Now, every time I take a shower, I smell like flowers. :/	Jan 30 13:59
DaemonFC	I wonder if they could have possibly made the scent any stronger. It smells like bad perfume.	Jan 30 14:00
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MinceR	DaemonFC: lol	Jan 30 14:27
MinceR	doesn't sound like an issue, if it's just flowers	Jan 30 14:27
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MinceR	then again, i take showers with shower gel, not soap :>	Jan 30 14:28
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DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Day_in_the_Strife	Jan 30 15:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| A Day in the Strife - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jl9od ]		Jan 30 15:12
DaemonFC	I liked that episode. The twist ending was good.	Jan 30 15:12
DaemonFC	Turns out that the probe was designed to explode if you replied to it with the correct answers to wipe out any civilization that was advanced enough to threaten the builders of the probe.	Jan 30 15:13
MinceR	:)	Jan 30 15:13
DaemonFC	So they wait until it's leaving and relay the answers through a maintenance bot that's far enough away from the station so that it will explode and not threaten anyone else.	Jan 30 15:16
*DaemonFC remembers almost all of these and hasn't seen them in 20 years.		Jan 30 15:16
DaemonFC	http://wane.com/2015/01/30/report-ranks-top-10-deadliest-vehicles/	Jan 30 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wane.com \| Report ranks top 10 deadliest vehicles \| WANE [ http://ur1.ca/jlb0d ]		Jan 30 17:11
DaemonFC	I commented.	Jan 30 17:11
DaemonFC	"I would have thought that more GM vehicles would be on this list since I've never owned a GM vehicle that worked right. When I owned a 1995 Corsica, it had the ignition switch problem. I paid to have the ignition switch replaced out of my own pocket back in 2004 after it shut itself off on me several times, both while I was on highways/freeways, or just trying to get to the grocery store. Truly horrible cars. I'm a proud Ford owner now. GM	Jan 30 17:11
DaemonFC	can keep their garbage. The best place to park a GM car is at the crushers. I could have just as easily been another person who had their Chevy turn itself off who left the scene of the accident in a body bag."	Jan 30 17:11
MinceR	http://conal.net/blog/posts/the-c-language-is-purely-functional	Jan 30 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-conal.net \| Conal Elliott » Blog Archive » The C language is purely functional [ http://ur1.ca/jlb36 ]		Jan 30 17:18
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 30 17:20
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Jan 30 17:20
DaemonFC	WANE ran a story about negligent parents who don't get their kids vaccinated and about half the people who commented are those triple damned anti-vaxxer idiots.	Jan 30 17:20
DaemonFC	I don't have anything to be afraid of because I got my vaccines. I got the MMR in 1996.	Jan 30 17:20
DaemonFC	I wonder when there will finally be an outbreak of Rubella. It swells the testicles and leaves the male survivors unable to reproduce.	Jan 30 17:20
DaemonFC	Parents who don't vaccinate their children are Darwinian Evolution in action.	Jan 30 17:20
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msb_	DaemonFC: The "triple damned anti-vaxxer idiots" turn out to be right. MMR does cause autism.	Jan 30 19:23
MinceR	according to the anti-vaxxer idiots	Jan 30 19:23
MinceR	and nobody else.	Jan 30 19:23
MinceR	"oh noes, there's a mercury atom in that molecule! the sky is falling!"	Jan 30 19:24
MinceR	chemistry does not work that way.	Jan 30 19:24
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DaemonFC	MinceR, You forgot "triple damned".	Jan 30 19:25
DaemonFC	That's an important part.	Jan 30 19:25
MinceR	damnation is not that much of a deal for me	Jan 30 19:25
msb_	DaemonFC: MinceR: http://www.naturalnews.com/046614_cdc_whistleblower_vaccine_cover-up_criminal_investigation.html	Jan 30 19:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.naturalnews.com \| Natural News EXCLUSIVE: Bombshell email from CDC whistleblower reveals criminality of vaccine cover-up as far back as 2002 - NaturalNews.com [ http://ur1.ca/jlcgn ]		Jan 30 19:26
msb_	http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/27/health/irpt-cdc-autism-vaccine-study/	Jan 30 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnn.com \| Journal questions validity of autism and vaccine study - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/jlch1 ]		Jan 30 19:27
DaemonFC	I have all of the vaccines that CDC recommends.	Jan 30 19:28
DaemonFC	I'm due for a tetanus booster. I should schedule that.	Jan 30 19:29
msb_	"CDC's own data revealing a 340% increased risk of autism in African-American children following the MMR vaccine"	Jan 30 19:29
DaemonFC	Richard Stallman commented on this form of scare tactic the other day.	Jan 30 19:29
DaemonFC	When he was linking to an article debunking the connection between birth control pills and cancer.	Jan 30 19:30
MinceR	anti-vaxxer idiotism has already caused outbreaks of long-mostly-gone diseases recently	Jan 30 19:30
DaemonFC	You can double a minuscule risk and have it still be a minuscule risk, if the statistics are even correct at all to begin with.	Jan 30 19:30
DaemonFC	And putting yourself at risk for measles, mumps, and rubella is worse than the potential risk from getting the MMR.	Jan 30 19:31
msb_	It's long been known that both the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines contained oncogenic monkey viruses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8FCJ_VPyns	Jan 30 19:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| The Exploding Autoimmune Epidemic - Dr. Tent - It's Not Autoimmune, you have Viruses - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jkkz1 ]		Jan 30 19:31
msb_	These caused many millions of cancers.	Jan 30 19:31
DaemonFC	Measles, mumps, and rubella are highly contagious and can cause death or severe and permanent injury.	Jan 30 19:32
DaemonFC	I'd rather take the 1 in a million chance of having a negative reaction to a vaccine.	Jan 30 19:32
msb_	Vitamin C instantly cures measles.	Jan 30 19:32
DaemonFC	Oh fucking bullshit.	Jan 30 19:32
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine#Autism_claims	Jan 30 19:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| MMR vaccine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jlcis ]		Jan 30 19:32
msb_	Read the article I just posted.	Jan 30 19:32
DaemonFC	MinceR, The very very small risk of an adverse reaction to a vaccine has mostly to do with egg allergies.	Jan 30 19:33
MinceR	http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-vaccination_movement#Thiomersal	Jan 30 19:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rationalwiki.org \| Anti-vaccination movement - RationalWiki [ http://ur1.ca/jlcj0 ]		Jan 30 19:33
DaemonFC	The flu shots used at Walgreens have no thiomersal in them anyway.	Jan 30 19:34
DaemonFC	How can you be harmed by something that is not in the injection to begin with?	Jan 30 19:34
msb_	Vitamin C cured all the cases of polio that Dr Klenner used it on.	Jan 30 19:34
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/4-Origin_Of_Vitamin_C_Treatment_For_Polio-Klenner.html	Jan 30 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| 4 - Origin Of Vitamin C Treatment For Polio - Klenner [ http://ur1.ca/jkkzs ]		Jan 30 19:34
MinceR	so we should just take Klenner's word for it?	Jan 30 19:35
DaemonFC	Taking a bunch of vitamin C only results in two things.	Jan 30 19:35
DaemonFC	Money wasted and diarrhea.	Jan 30 19:35
msb_	But info about his work was censored from medical media.	Jan 30 19:35
DaemonFC	If you're already sick, giving yourself diarrhea is probably not going to help.	Jan 30 19:35
msb_	All those people didn't have to die from cancer from SV40 from polio vaccines.	Jan 30 19:36
MinceR	http://youtu.be/yJD1Iwy5lUY?t=45s	Jan 30 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| If Google Was A Guy (Part 3) - YouTube		Jan 30 19:37
msb_	Here's how Vitamin C works against all viral infections it's been used on: http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/2-How_Vitamin_C_Works-Cathcart-with_summary.html	Jan 30 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| 2 - How Vitamin C Works - Cathcart - with summary [ http://ur1.ca/hc247 ]		Jan 30 19:38
MinceR	and the reason none of this makes into peer-reviewed papers is because of the conspiracy, right? :>	Jan 30 19:38
msb_	Drug companies can't make any money by selling C. It's not patentable.	Jan 30 19:40
MinceR	i wonder why drug companies sell vitamin C, then	Jan 30 19:41
MinceR	if not for the money	Jan 30 19:41
msb_	Links to more articles on Vitamin C at bottom of this page: http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/	Jan 30 19:42
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msb_	Vaccines make them far more money.	Jan 30 19:43
MinceR	so, "far less money" is "no money", now?	Jan 30 19:43
MinceR	making generics must be another hobby for them...	Jan 30 19:44
msb_	Also vaccines make many sick for life with chronic diseases. That's a real jackpot for big pharma.	Jan 30 19:44
msb_	If vaccines are so effective, why are morons like you so angry with those who don't get vaccinated? You're protected, right?	Jan 30 19:47
msb_	I say "morons" because you never read the info I post.	Jan 30 19:47
msb_	So you never learn anything.	Jan 30 19:48
msb_	All you know is what the govt and corporate media tell you.	Jan 30 19:48
msb_	Same as with Ukraine.	Jan 30 19:48
MinceR	they might not be 100	Jan 30 19:50
MinceR	% effective	Jan 30 19:50
MinceR	you moron.	Jan 30 19:50
MinceR	all you believe to know is what nutcases without a clue tell you	Jan 30 19:50
MinceR	you're incapable of critical thinking.	Jan 30 19:50
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnxAsrAK2hw	Jan 30 19:51
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msb_	The first step in critical thinking is to realize that what you currently believe may not be accurate.	Jan 30 19:52
msb_	The second step is to access information that disagrees with what you currently believe, and check and see whether it may be correct.	Jan 30 19:53
MinceR	so, when will you realize that?	Jan 30 19:53
MinceR	also, what turned medical journals into "govt and corporate media"?	Jan 30 19:54
msb_	Calling people whose beliefs differ from your own "nutcases", and refusing to access the info they present, guarantees that if you've been misinformed you will never learn the truth.	Jan 30 19:55
msb_	Medical journals get their money from drug company advertisements.	Jan 30 19:55
MinceR	as opposed to calling people whose beliefs differ from your own "morons", "fascists", etc. because...?	Jan 30 19:55
MinceR	iirc you started the name calling, so you don't get to complain about it	Jan 30 19:56
msb_	You have never learned the meanings of "fascist" and "socialist", and it looks like you never will.	Jan 30 19:56
MinceR	looks more like you never have	Jan 30 19:57
msb_	I said "moron" because you never read the info that differs from your beliefs. I was wrong to do that. I should have said "intentional ignoramus" instead.	Jan 30 19:57
MinceR	since a while ago pretended that "socialism" can be democratic, but nowadays you're propping up putin as some sort of socialist ideal	Jan 30 19:57
MinceR	if you believe you're the only one around with access to thesauri, you're (again) mistaken.	Jan 30 19:58
msb_	MinceR: You are lying as usual. I have never said that Putin is ideal.	Jan 30 19:58
MinceR	you have reading comprehension issues	Jan 30 19:59
msb_	But he is opposing the US fascists who have slaughtered millions and destroyed several nations since 2001.	Jan 30 19:59
MinceR	so, if 3 groups of fascists oppose each other, does that make your brain explode?	Jan 30 19:59
MinceR	are you incapable of recognizing that not all conflict is Good vs. Evil?	Jan 30 20:00
msb_	MinceR: You equate fascism and socialism, which guarantees that you won't be able to understand what's going on in the world.	Jan 30 20:00
MinceR	yes, different symbols and slogan make fascism all different	Jan 30 20:00
msb_	The use of the word "fascism" to mean "authoritarianism" makes understanding impossible.	Jan 30 20:01
MinceR	no, it's reasonably common	Jan 30 20:01
MinceR	good thing changing the meaning of "socialism", "communism" and related words every second doesn't make understanding difficult at all	Jan 30 20:01
msb_	Yes it is, and the resulting inability to understand is common because of that.	Jan 30 20:01
msb_	I don't change those meanings.	Jan 30 20:02
MinceR	the resulting inability to understand what? that putin's dictatorship is preferable to western democracy?	Jan 30 20:02
MinceR	you did change those meanings.	Jan 30 20:02
msb_	How?	Jan 30 20:02
MinceR	or you're utterly confused about them.	Jan 30 20:02
MinceR	i've already explained.	Jan 30 20:02
msb_	Give quotes from me.	Jan 30 20:02
MinceR	socialist ideals vs. the practice of USSR and putin's russia.	Jan 30 20:03
msb_	USSR employed authoritarian socialism.	Jan 30 20:03
msb_	Nicaragua uses democratic socialism.	Jan 30 20:04
msb_	There is little actual democracy in the US, because the wealthy control both parties, and two parties is all we have.	Jan 30 20:05
MinceR	no, it's not all you have	Jan 30 20:05
MinceR	it's all you're willing to vote for	Jan 30 20:05
MinceR	there's a difference.	Jan 30 20:05
MinceR	and it's connected to your earlier idea	Jan 30 20:05
msb_	It's all the corporate media talk about, so nobody votes for the others.	Jan 30 20:06
MinceR	most people consider one party to be the epitome of good and they deduce this from the other being evil.	Jan 30 20:06
msb_	And since the elections are winner-take-all instead of parliamentary, voting for others, e.g., socialists, doesn't bring any of them into govt.	Jan 30 20:06
MinceR	oh, and from them being opposed to each other.	Jan 30 20:06
MinceR	voting for others would show in the statistics, reinforcing the value of voting for them	Jan 30 20:07
msb_	Yes, you're right about that.	Jan 30 20:07
MinceR	and as you said, the two big parties don't differ from each other that much	Jan 30 20:07
msb_	Yes.	Jan 30 20:07
msb_	They are both basically fascist.	Jan 30 20:07
msb_	Neither offers worker ownership.	Jan 30 20:08
MinceR	i wouldn't want to own workers anyway. :>	Jan 30 20:08
msb_	Neither offers worker ownership of factories, farms, etc.	Jan 30 20:09
MinceR	neither prevents it either	Jan 30 20:10
msb_	The result is this enormous inequality of wealth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM	Jan 30 20:10
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msb_	The total censorship of socialism and social democracy from US corporate media results in few people knowing about them. That does effectively prevent it. It's a form of mind-control.	Jan 30 20:11
msb_	Most people in the US think that the view of the world given them by the corporate (wealthy-controlled) media is the way reality really is.	Jan 30 20:13
msb_	But it's not.	Jan 30 20:13
msb_	That view is like "The Matrix" in the movie. Total illusion.	Jan 30 20:14
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality	Jan 30 20:14
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MinceR	the USA is not the only country with significant wealth inequality	Jan 30 20:14
msb_	Of course not.	Jan 30 20:14
msb_	Every capitalist country will have that.	Jan 30 20:15
MinceR	in fact, for the socialist paradise you're painting Nicaragua as, it has a higher Gini as Japan, Poland or Canada	Jan 30 20:15
msb_	Gini is deceptive. You have to look at a histogram of wealth.	Jan 30 20:16
MinceR	(and so does Venezuela)	Jan 30 20:16
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM	Jan 30 20:19
msb_	The enormous amount of wealth owned by the richest 1% in the US will falsely increase the per-capita wealth figure.	Jan 30 20:20
msb_	Per-capita wealth is total wealth divided by total population size.	Jan 30 20:21
msb_	But the histogram -- see the video I just posted -- show that the great majority of people have little wealth. It's almost all concentrated with the richest.	Jan 30 20:22
msb_	Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa, because Qadaffi share the oil revenues with the people. That's why the US murdered him and destroyed that country.	Jan 30 20:24
msb_	*shared	Jan 30 20:24
MinceR	this video has no histogram of wealth about any supposed socialist paradises you mentioned	Jan 30 20:24
MinceR	it does say, however, that 92% of people want a more equal distribution of wealth	Jan 30 20:25
MinceR	maybe someone should build a campaign on that, then	Jan 30 20:25
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM shows a histogram of wealth in the US.	Jan 30 20:25
MinceR	ooh, now qadaffi is a saint too	Jan 30 20:25
MinceR	this is getting better and better.	Jan 30 20:25
MinceR	i can hardly wait for you to canonicalize Saint Kim Jong Un.	Jan 30 20:26
msb_	He was a good guy who used the oil income to benefit the people.	Jan 30 20:26
MinceR	yes it does, but shows nothing to compare it to.	Jan 30 20:26
msb_	MinceR: You are constantly using straw-man lies.	Jan 30 20:26
MinceR	i wonder if you would believe that if you lived in one of those dictatorships you keep advertising	Jan 30 20:27
MinceR	you should contemplate the relative amount of wealth controlled by the dictator and their close associates in such a country	Jan 30 20:28
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek	Jan 30 20:28
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MinceR	here's a hint: they own the country.	Jan 30 20:28
msb_	So you claim. But Libya had the highest standard of living of any African nation.	Jan 30 20:29
msb_	Until the US destroyed it with a military invasion and mass murder.	Jan 30 20:30
MinceR	so you claim	Jan 30 20:31
msb_	Watch that video. The one you call "the dictator" rides through Tripoli in an open car without protection.	Jan 30 20:32
MinceR	also, Gini is exactly about the shape of the histogram you're talking about	Jan 30 20:32
msb_	It's a number between 0 and 1.	Jan 30 20:32
MinceR	so?	Jan 30 20:32
MinceR	(actually it isn't but never mind)	Jan 30 20:32
MinceR	also, they loved gaddafi so much they overturned him in a revolution	Jan 30 20:33
msb_	So it can't possibly accurately represent the enormous wealthy inequality of, e.g., 1% owning 99% of the wealth, and 99% of the people collectively owning only 1%.	Jan 30 20:33
MinceR	i see, your maths education is also sorely lacking	Jan 30 20:34
msb_	The US finds some murderous fascist party and arms and finances it, thus creating an anti-human "revolution".	Jan 30 20:34
msb_	"your maths education is also sorely lacking" -- in what way?	Jan 30 20:35
MinceR	there are the same amount of real numbers between 0 and 1 as on the whole number line	Jan 30 20:35
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinality_of_the_continuum	Jan 30 20:35
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msb_	The point is that a Gini number between 0 and 1 doesn't psychologically get the point across to people that the wealthiest 1% owns 99% of everything.	Jan 30 20:36
MinceR	it doesn't need to	Jan 30 20:36
MinceR	higher Gini means higher inequality.	Jan 30 20:36
MinceR	a Gini of 1 means 1 person owns 100% of the wealth and the others own 0	Jan 30 20:37
msb_	Cardinality of the continuum is irrelevant to people's impression of inequality.,	Jan 30 20:37
MinceR	and it can be greater than one if some people have negative wealth	Jan 30 20:37
MinceR	but this is very unlikely	Jan 30 20:37
MinceR	so, people's impressions are more important than the truth, now?	Jan 30 20:38
msb_	when people see a Gini number from 0 to 1 that means much less to them than a wealth inequality of 1 vs. 100.	Jan 30 20:38
MinceR	you do realize that if you multiply the Gini by 100, you get a percentage, right?	Jan 30 20:40
msb_	Both the Gini number and the histogram express the truth, but the Gini number doesn't make people understand the real effect of the inequality like the histogram or the ratio of 1 to 100 does.	Jan 30 20:40
MinceR	(or something that works very much like a percentage, anyway)	Jan 30 20:40
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msb_	Here's the definition of the Gini number: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient#General_case	Jan 30 20:42
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MinceR	i've already seen it.	Jan 30 20:42
msb_	For it to be meaningful to people they have to understand integrals or summations, and apply that to the small difference between 0 and 1 to extrapolate that to the actual ratio of the wealth of rich vs everyone else.	Jan 30 20:43
msb_	Most people don't know enough math to do that.	Jan 30 20:43
MinceR	no they don't	Jan 30 20:44
msb_	Whereas the ratio of 100 to 1 immediately tells the story.	Jan 30 20:44
MinceR	it's enough to understand the histogram (lorenz curve) and ratio between areas	Jan 30 20:44
MinceR	it _is_ a ratio	Jan 30 20:44
MinceR	why don't you read what you linked?	Jan 30 20:44
MinceR	also, note that pathologically disproportionate distributions of wealth may mean that even the "1%" won't seem quite so wealthy, as poor people would be averaged with the rich ones (in that case, being far less numerous than 1%, of course)	Jan 30 20:46
msb_	The Lorenz curve is also deceptive, because the vertical coordinate is cumulative wealth instead of wealth per percentile.	Jan 30 20:46
msb_	Only the histogram (or graph) of wealth per percentile shows an accurate and informative view of the situation.	Jan 30 20:47
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MinceR	that's actually irrelevant as far as the shape of the curve is concerned	Jan 30 20:48
MinceR	wait, no	Jan 30 20:48
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MinceR	regardless, comparisons of Gini still order countries correctly in terms of inequality	Jan 30 20:49
msb_	Because the area and height of the bar in each percentile is proportional to the wealth per person in that percentile.	Jan 30 20:49
msb_	Do you not want people to see that in capitalist nations almost all wealth is held by the richest 1%?	Jan 30 20:51
msb_	The Gini number hides that. The histogram shows it.	Jan 30 20:52
MinceR	i want _you_ to see that in the places you believe are paradises, wealth is held even more inequally.	Jan 30 20:52
msb_	I haven't called any place "paradise". That's your lying straw-man argument.	Jan 30 20:53
MinceR	ooh, different words!	Jan 30 20:53
msb_	What "different words" are you talking about?	Jan 30 20:53
MinceR	i rephrased your "arguments" instead of hunting and copy-pasting your sentences, so i'm lying	Jan 30 20:54
msb_	Yes, you are lying when you attribute to me things I never said.	Jan 30 20:54
MinceR	by the way, your beloved Russia does even worse than Nicaragua or Venezuela	Jan 30 20:55
msb_	That's to be expected, because	Jan 30 20:56
msb_	Venezuela and Nicaragua are much more democratic than Russia	Jan 30 20:56
MinceR	you should make them a medal saying "more democratic than Russia!"	Jan 30 20:57
msb_	And while I'm Russian (Ukrainian) by ancestry, and aware of the fascist attacks on Russia by capitalist nations that slaughtered many millions, it is not "beloved" to me. Again you attribute things to me that I never said. You are lying.	Jan 30 20:58
MinceR	you seem to be unaware of the fascists attacks on Ukraine by Russia, though	Jan 30 20:59
MinceR	or you just don't care	Jan 30 20:59
MinceR	s/sts/st/	Jan 30 20:59
msb_	Again, by using the word "fascist" to mean "authoritarian" you make accurate thinking impossible.	Jan 30 20:59
msb_	I doubt that that's an accident.	Jan 30 21:00
MinceR	i doubt you'd care much while being killed by an authoritarian	Jan 30 21:00
msb_	The fascist -- corporatist, pro-wealthy -- media don't want people to understand the true meaning of fascist and socialist.	Jan 30 21:01
MinceR	and you don't understand it either	Jan 30 21:01
MinceR	considering that you keep bringing up examples of "socialism" that do not respect the supposed socialist values at all.	Jan 30 21:02
msb_	Fascism is a political system that uses force and deception to benefit the wealthy at the expense of working people. Socialism is a system in which working people control govt, factories, farms, transportation, medical facilities, etc, and receive the profits from them as wages.	Jan 30 21:03
MinceR	to what extend do they control/receive for that definition?	Jan 30 21:04
MinceR	s/end/ent/	Jan 30 21:04
msb_	The more the better.	Jan 30 21:05
MinceR	in that case, all democratic countries are "socialist" and no closer implementation of "socialism" has ever existed, especially not by countries that call themselves "socialist"	Jan 30 21:05
msb_	If the "democracy" were real, which would require people to be accurately informed, then they would vote for socialism.	Jan 30 21:07
msb_	But in the US for example, "democracy" is a farce because people are lied to by the wealthy-controlled media, so they have no idea of what's going on or what they could have.	Jan 30 21:08
msb_	They are also lied to by the educational system.	Jan 30 21:08
MinceR	the usa is not the only democracy on the planet, and there are countries in the western world that appear to be less flawed democracies than it	Jan 30 21:08
msb_	Yes, and some of them have more socialism and a higher standard of living than the US.	Jan 30 21:10
msb_	It also helps when they have a parliamentary system in which socialists can get elected and can discuss matters in the parliament.	Jan 30 21:11
msb_	Instead of a winner-take-all system in which they can't.	Jan 30 21:11
MinceR	what metric of 'standard of living' are you using?	Jan 30 21:12
msb_	Maximizing communication is all -important in enabling accurate thinking. Winner-take-all prevents it.	Jan 30 21:13
MinceR	i'm not sure how much of a role is left for communication in the parliament nowadays	Jan 30 21:14
msb_	I guess for a single number for standard of living, the median USD-equivalent wealth per person would be good.	Jan 30 21:16
MinceR	(javascript) https://www.battleforthenet.com/countdown/	Jan 30 21:16
msb_	But a histogram is better.	Jan 30 21:16
MinceR	so, GDP per capita?	Jan 30 21:16
MinceR	i'd use GDP (PPP) per capita	Jan 30 21:17
msb_	No, _median_ income per capita.	Jan 30 21:17
MinceR	oh.	Jan 30 21:17
MinceR	i wonder if anyone's calculated that.	Jan 30 21:17
msb_	That way huge wealth of the richest doesn't skew the number.	Jan 30 21:17
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_household_income	Jan 30 21:18
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MinceR	this sounds like it isn't very far from it	Jan 30 21:18
MinceR	and the usa isn't doing badly at all	Jan 30 21:18
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msb_	The US uses subversion and military force to exploit populations all over the world and get things cheaply.	Jan 30 21:22
msb_	It supports the worst govts it can create in other nations in order to keep workers and their wages down there. That creates huge profits for US businessmen and also cheaper goods for the US population.	Jan 30 21:23
MinceR	not sure about that	Jan 30 21:24
MinceR	they don't seem to be too happy with the situation in hungary	Jan 30 21:24
MinceR	even though it will certainly lead to lower wages here	Jan 30 21:24
msb_	who isn't happy with the situation in Hungary?	Jan 30 21:25
MinceR	the us government	Jan 30 21:25
msb_	Has the US govt threatened Hungary?	Jan 30 21:25
MinceR	(unless they're publicly lying about their displeasure)	Jan 30 21:25
MinceR	not afaik	Jan 30 21:26
MinceR	but they've expressed their displeasure	Jan 30 21:26
msb_	Regarding what? Closeness with Russia?	Jan 30 21:26
MinceR	no	Jan 30 21:26
msb_	What then?	Jan 30 21:26
MinceR	elimination of rule of law, freedom of speech, etc.	Jan 30 21:26
MinceR	the usual	Jan 30 21:26
msb_	Which you are also unhappy about.	Jan 30 21:27
MinceR	indeed.	Jan 30 21:27
MinceR	even if they don't practice it as well as we'd like, they at least pay lip service to the ideals of freedom :)	Jan 30 21:27
msb_	We have plenty of lip service here in the US. It just serves to fool people.	Jan 30 21:28
MinceR	there are plenty of places with less freedom on Earth.	Jan 30 21:29
msb_	Saudi Arabia is a good example.	Jan 30 21:30
msb_	Or rather a horrible example.	Jan 30 21:30
msb_	Israel/Palestine isn't much better.	Jan 30 21:31
MinceR	same with Russia or Hungary	Jan 30 21:31
msb_	They're probably better. Palestine is now one big concentration camp, and women suffer horribly in Saudi.	Jan 30 21:33
MinceR	they're not	Jan 30 21:33
MinceR	consider Pussy Riot for Russia	Jan 30 21:33
MinceR	and consider that in hungary, the only opposition radio station has only partial coverage and even that only because trying to shut them down caused an international scandal;	Jan 30 21:34
msb_	Do most people in Hungary have computers and uncensored Net connections?	Jan 30 21:34
MinceR	and consider that the only allegedly opposition tv station is mostly owned by a cult leader who supports the government	Jan 30 21:34
MinceR	not sure, actually	Jan 30 21:34
MinceR	the nazis already put the law in place to enable them to censor the internet	Jan 30 21:34
MinceR	not sure how far they've gone with it	Jan 30 21:34
MinceR	there was a recent court case where they tried to silence an extremist 'news' portal, but it's hosted in the usa (iirc)	Jan 30 21:35
MinceR	so i'm not sure what they're doing, maybe they'll do the usual DNS blocking game	Jan 30 21:35
msb_	It will help a lot if/when they get them. Then people can read http://globalresearch.ca/ and cosmicpenguin.com	Jan 30 21:35
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MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_in_Hungary#Internet_censorship_and_surveillance	Jan 30 21:36
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MinceR	(may be outdated)	Jan 30 21:36
MinceR	actually it's certainly outdated	Jan 30 21:36
msb_	Can you access all of youtube? how about globalresearch.ca ?	Jan 30 21:38
MinceR	parts of youtube are blocked by google probably only on copyright grounds	Jan 30 21:38
MinceR	i can also access globalresearch.ca	Jan 30 21:38
msb_	Good!	Jan 30 21:38
MinceR	i suspect the government isn't sophisticated enough to do anything more than DNS filtering yet	Jan 30 21:38
MinceR	(but the legal groundwork is there for more, iirc)	Jan 30 21:39
msb_	Single-board computers that run Linux are becoming very cheap now -- some about $30. Add a small monitor and away you go. If you can get a cheap Net connection.	Jan 30 21:40
MinceR	but for how long?	Jan 30 21:40
MinceR	i mean, for how long will that internet connection be allowed to be useful?	Jan 30 21:41
msb_	It's harder to take it away once people have it.	Jan 30 21:41
MinceR	nope, it's very easy to take it away	Jan 30 21:41
MinceR	the people happily watched the government take their rights away before as well	Jan 30 21:41
MinceR	the government demolished constitutionality, freedom of speech, rule of law, protection of private property	Jan 30 21:41
MinceR	the only time there was a substantial protest when they tried to put a huge tax on internet connections	Jan 30 21:42
msb_	I think that the reason the US govt did the 911 false-flag attack and the subsequent war of terror is that they were and are worried about the effect that cheap actual free speech on the Net would have.	Jan 30 21:42
MinceR	these people don't understand what freedom of speech is, or why it is important	Jan 30 21:42
MinceR	compare that to usians.	Jan 30 21:42
msb_	I think that once they have time to explore sites like youtube and globalresearch, and the info penetrates their minds, they will slowly wake up.	Jan 30 21:43
MinceR	for that, they'd have to (1) speak english and (2) care.	Jan 30 21:44
msb_	BTW, you are right about Pussy Riot. It was the worst PR Putin ever had.	Jan 30 21:44
MinceR	it's not just pr.	Jan 30 21:44
MinceR	(hm, Pussy Riot can also be abbreviated as PR)	Jan 30 21:45
msb_	Well, it was only a few people and they were released after what, about a year?	Jan 30 21:45
MinceR	oh, you wouldn't mind being jailed for "about a year" for insulting a cult?	Jan 30 21:45
msb_	but it made him look awful -- scared of pussy!	Jan 30 21:45
msb_	Of course I would.	Jan 30 21:46
msb_	But I am much more concerned about two million people being murdered by the US.	Jan 30 21:46
MinceR	you're not concerned about the people murdered by russia?	Jan 30 21:47
msb_	When is the last time Russia did that?	Jan 30 21:47
msb_	(I know in your mind it was only yesterday 8^)	Jan 30 21:47
MinceR	i don't know anymore	Jan 30 21:48
msb_	Maybe 50-60 years ago	Jan 30 21:48
MinceR	they're trying to blur the lines between russian military forces and supposedly non-russian forces	Jan 30 21:48
msb_	The US is doing it right now.	Jan 30 21:48
MinceR	apparently russia did kill some people even during the crimean crisis	Jan 30 21:49
MinceR	last year	Jan 30 21:49
msb_	The Nazi Ukraine coup govt backed by the US started that killing.	Jan 30 21:49
MinceR	so you keep saying	Jan 30 21:49
MinceR	ignoring putin's puppets, as usual	Jan 30 21:50
msb_	You know they shot down that airliner and blamed it on Russia, right?	Jan 30 21:50
MinceR	i don't know	Jan 30 21:50
msb_	What you call Putin's puppets were happy to live under the previous elected Ukraine govt.	Jan 30 21:50
MinceR	no, i called yanukovych & co. putin's puppets	Jan 30 21:52
MinceR	they weren't living "under" the government	Jan 30 21:52
msb_	For god's sake read this: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 21:52
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MinceR	and there were allegations of fraud	Jan 30 21:52
MinceR	so who knows what was really "elected"	Jan 30 21:52
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx3TKACD1OXB16M&newContentID=MxIVYCXB1RRFGN&newContentNum=15#Mx2TVN1IP2YPIG2	Jan 30 21:53
MinceR	then again, even hungarians got the whole election thing horribly wrong	Jan 30 21:53
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 30 21:53
DaemonFC	Don't worry. If it's a Microsoft AI, the "Enslaving humanity!" progress bar will keep moving while the remaining time goes up, giving the world plenty of time to figure out how to stop it, even if it doesn't just crash itself before the progress bar goes away.	Jan 30 21:53
DaemonFC	Don't forget to "Activate" your new overlord if it manages to finish enslaving us all, or it will stop enslaving us all after a few days and hang at the activation screen.	Jan 30 21:53
MinceR	lol	Jan 30 21:53
msb_	Yes, the elected govt of Ukraine wasn't the best, but the country was reasonably free and peaceful.	Jan 30 21:54
MinceR	apparently it was neither	Jan 30 21:55
MinceR	and now they have another elected government which also isn't the best	Jan 30 21:55
msb_	No, the Nazis were not elected.	Jan 30 21:55
MinceR	but poroshenko and yatsenyuk were, apparently	Jan 30 21:56
msb_	Ukraine was stable, with no shooting, until the US-supported Nazi coup.	Jan 30 22:05
MinceR	translation: ukraine was stable until it was not stable	Jan 30 22:05
msb_	The pro-EU and pro-Russia people were getting along together.	Jan 30 22:05
MinceR	until ukraine wanted to join the eu and the nato	Jan 30 22:06
msb_	No, that's a nonsense "translation". The violent Nazi coup was supported by the US.	Jan 30 22:06
MinceR	so you keep saying like that would make it true.	Jan 30 22:06
msb_	Some Ukrainians wanted to join the EU and some did not.	Jan 30 22:07
msb_	Have you read this article? http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 22:07
MinceR	i've skimmed it before	Jan 30 22:08
msb_	Please read it in detail.	Jan 30 22:08
MinceR	tons of bullshit	Jan 30 22:08
msb_	What in it is bullshit?	Jan 30 22:09
MinceR	a nazi party being present as a minority in a mostly moderate government makes the government "nazi" in their view	Jan 30 22:09
MinceR	and this point isn't even particularly explicit	Jan 30 22:09
MinceR	just the constant chant of "nazi, nazi, nazi"	Jan 30 22:09
MinceR	it's dishonest.	Jan 30 22:09
MinceR	it's also sensational.	Jan 30 22:10
msb_	The US govt gave the coup organizations FIVE BILLION DOLLARS!	Jan 30 22:11
MinceR	so not svoboda, but the coup organizations	Jan 30 22:11
MinceR	if they were sure of their truth, they'd have supported it with facts instead of just the sensationalistic repetition	Jan 30 22:12
msb_	"The Cabinet is not only integrated by the Svoboda and Right Sector (not to mention former members of defunct fascist UNA-UNSO), the two main Neo-Nazi entities have been entrusted with key positions which grant them de facto control over the Armed Forces, Police, Justice and National Security."	Jan 30 22:12
MinceR	show me a coalition government that did not give any positions to some of its component parties.	Jan 30 22:12
msb_	That govt gave _control_ positions to Nazis!	Jan 30 22:13
MinceR	all government positions are control positions.	Jan 30 22:13
MinceR	that's what being a minister is about.	Jan 30 22:13
msb_	control over the Armed Forces, Police, Justice and National Securit	Jan 30 22:14
msb_	y	Jan 30 22:14
MinceR	shouldn't have voted for the nazis, then.	Jan 30 22:14
msb_	Does control by Nazis bother you?	Jan 30 22:15
MinceR	it does	Jan 30 22:15
MinceR	even if it's by nazis who learned their trade in governments that called themselves "socialist" or "communist".	Jan 30 22:16
msb_	All Nazis are opposed to socialists.	Jan 30 22:17
MinceR	so they say.	Jan 30 22:17
msb_	You don't believe them?	Jan 30 22:18
MinceR	not necessarily	Jan 30 22:18
MinceR	you trust people who are solely concerned with their own fortune (authoritarians in the government) way too much.	Jan 30 22:18
msb_	Do you believe that Hitler's Nazis slaughtered socialists and trade-unionists wherever they could?	Jan 30 22:19
MinceR	also note that national socialism was designed also to attract socialists.	Jan 30 22:19
MinceR	i suppose they did, at some point	Jan 30 22:19
msb_	The name was a lie.	Jan 30 22:19
MinceR	and so's some of the symbolism	Jan 30 22:19
MinceR	including the red background of the flag.	Jan 30 22:19
MinceR	but then "people's republic", "democratic republic" and "people's democratic republic" also tends to be a lie.	Jan 30 22:20
msb_	What authoritarians are you saying that I trust?	Jan 30 22:20
MinceR	putin, for example	Jan 30 22:20
MinceR	yanukovych is another	Jan 30 22:20
msb_	I don't trust Putin. I'm glad he is opposing mass murder by the US.	Jan 30 22:21
MinceR	you expect putin to fight "fascists" just because he happens to be a different color of authoritarian, in your book	Jan 30 22:21
MinceR	you'd put out a house on fire by lighting another fire in the same house.	Jan 30 22:21
msb_	I don't expect anything. He and the other BRICS nations are opposing US takeover of the planet.	Jan 30 22:22
msb_	"house on fire" is another lying straw-man argument. Why don't you stop lying like that?	Jan 30 22:23
MinceR	and supporting russian or chinese takeover of the planet	Jan 30 22:23
MinceR	no, it's a metaphor	Jan 30 22:23
MinceR	but i guess you're too much of a moron to understand metaphors	Jan 30 22:23
msb_	Russia and China are not doing anything to take over the planet. The US has invaded and destroyed several nations in the last decade or so and murdered millions.	Jan 30 22:24
MinceR	http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/david-stockman-the-bric-miracle-is-a-fable-made-by-central-banks-and-told-by-goldman/	Jan 30 22:24
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MinceR	oh, annexation is not progress toward taking over the planet but occupation is?	Jan 30 22:24
MinceR	interesting ideas there	Jan 30 22:24
msb_	The Crimeans voted to be annexed.	Jan 30 22:25
MinceR	yes, at gunpoint	Jan 30 22:25
msb_	Where there guns in the polling places?	Jan 30 22:25
MinceR	annexing crimea did not take russia closer to take over the planet, but apparently being temporarily in afghanistan and iraq took the usa closer to taking over the planet	Jan 30 22:25
MinceR	why would the guns have to be in the polling places?	Jan 30 22:25
MinceR	they take effect over a distance, you know	Jan 30 22:25
MinceR	especially the bigger ones the russians are fond of	Jan 30 22:26
msb_	If the voting is private then how do guns elsewhere influence the voters?	Jan 30 22:28
MinceR	via threatening the entire population if the outcome is not what the russians desired, for example	Jan 30 22:29
MinceR	or by general intimidation	Jan 30 22:29
msb_	That's what secret ballots are for. Intimidation is avoided because nobody knows how you voted.	Jan 30 22:30
MinceR	they'll know how you voted if every vote is the same in the voting district	Jan 30 22:31
MinceR	they'll know how the majority voted in the voting district	Jan 30 22:31
MinceR	etc.	Jan 30 22:31
msb_	What would convince you that the Crimeans wanted to join Russia instead of living under Nazis?	Jan 30 22:32
MinceR	if the vote happened without the russian military show in crimea.	Jan 30 22:33
MinceR	also, you're implying that russians aren't nazis.	Jan 30 22:33
msb_	Yes. Nazis -- fascists -- those words have a particular meaning -- violent deceptive govt in service to corporations and the wealthy.	Jan 30 22:35
MinceR	check.	Jan 30 22:36
MinceR	also, same regime as under the USSR and the eastern bloc, but with a nationalist/christian flavor instead of the (pretend non-nationalist)/(communist/cult of personality) flavor	Jan 30 22:37
MinceR	same as in hungary	Jan 30 22:37
MinceR	since putin is orban's exemplar	Jan 30 22:39
msb_	It occurs to me to wonder: How much money did your family have before Russia took over Hungary?	Jan 30 22:40
MinceR	dunno, not much, afaik	Jan 30 22:40
MinceR	afaik we did have lands though	Jan 30 22:40
msb_	How much?	Jan 30 22:40
MinceR	dunno	Jan 30 22:40
MinceR	certainly more than we have now	Jan 30 22:41
MinceR	since the "privatization" favored those who had good government connections	Jan 30 22:41
MinceR	and we never had those	Jan 30 22:41
msb_	Do you know why Hitler invaded Russia and murdered 20 million people?	Jan 30 22:43
MinceR	i've heard of some reasons	Jan 30 22:44
msb_	Namely?	Jan 30 22:44
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MinceR	he wanted to conquer as much of earth (or at least europe) as he could; he expected opposition from russia	Jan 30 22:46
MinceR	though i faintly recall some pact between nazi germany and russia	Jan 30 22:46
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msb_	please watch this excellent documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM	Jan 30 22:50
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DaemonFC	MinceR, They names the snowstorm that's about to hit Indiana "Linus".	Jan 30 22:52
msb_	Also, please read the material linked here, American Businessmen Financed Hitler http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis	Jan 30 22:52
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DaemonFC	*named	Jan 30 22:52
MinceR	:)	Jan 30 22:52
DaemonFC	http://www.weather.com/storms/winter/news/winter-storm-linus-forecast-plains-midwest-northeast	Jan 30 22:52
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MinceR	msb_: no "IBM and the Holocaust"?	Jan 30 22:52
msb_	This information explains Hitler's motivations.	Jan 30 22:53
MinceR	you don't think he had any motivation other than his funding?	Jan 30 22:53
msb_	What was it?	Jan 30 22:54
MinceR	see above	Jan 30 22:54
msb_	see what above?	Jan 30 22:54
MinceR	234608 <@MinceR> he wanted to conquer as much of earth (or at least europe) as he could; he expected opposition from russia	Jan 30 22:54
MinceR	234629 <@MinceR> though i faintly recall some pact between nazi germany and russia	Jan 30 22:54
MinceR	i wonder why i talk to you if you don't read what i write anyway	Jan 30 22:54
msb_	Why did he want to conquere the earth?	Jan 30 22:55
MinceR	not sure	Jan 30 22:55
MinceR	ideology, megalomania, madness (basically the same thing anyway)	Jan 30 22:55
msb_	Please watch that video and read those links. That will give you some solid information.	Jan 30 22:56
MinceR	i think i'll just go to sleep instead.	Jan 30 22:57
msb_	You could watch and read them when you wake up. Get actual information instead of vague ideas.	Jan 30 22:58
msb_	Download the video using youtube-dl. That way you'll have it if your govt cuts of your Net.	Jan 30 23:00
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MinceR	gn	Jan 31 00:18
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/561282575701139456 https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/561282804961796096	Jan 31 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @mk270 indeed, I went to the former and gave a talk on the subject; probably my fault it passed...		Jan 31 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @wendycockcroft indeed		Jan 31 01:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/561280393983561728	Jan 31 01:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @glynmoody The sooner that misbegotten monster dies, the better.		Jan 31 01:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/561339852667375616	Jan 31 01:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz (hope you will re-phrase that, to be more specific)		Jan 31 01:47
schestowitz	Nations that support terrorists who further their own agenda, spread idealogy and power-shift	Jan 31 01:48
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schestowitz	hi carlosr	Jan 31 01:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/561343252113412096	Jan 31 02:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz I'd include insurgents & paramilitaries along side "terrorists". ISIL ("ISIS") is actually an ARMY that features TERROR plays.		Jan 31 02:02
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/561343957624315904	Jan 31 02:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz I gather your comment is in relation to the insurgents in Iraq and Syria.		Jan 31 02:04
schestowitz	They too were inadvertently supported by those who now fear them. Things got our of hand IMHO.	Jan 31 02:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561345552047017986	Jan 31 02:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz what would be your top priorities?		Jan 31 02:24
schestowitz	As in, if I was a politician?	Jan 31 02:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561351112511737857	Jan 31 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz yep that's what I meant. No spying on citizens I'd assume?		Jan 31 02:34
schestowitz	Only on those who are known to be potential threat (i.e. no mass surveillance)	Jan 31 02:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561352031122620417	Jan 31 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz yes sorry of course		Jan 31 02:42
schestowitz	All people whom I know successfully detonated bombs were already watched closely	Jan 31 02:43
schestowitz	There's no need to infringement everyone's privacy to find them in the haystack. Just look at travel records.	Jan 31 02:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561354344251920385	Jan 31 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz not closely enough or the police were too lenient?		Jan 31 02:48
schestowitz	Distracted by the haystack, overclassification	Jan 31 02:48
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schestowitz	http://theweek.com/speedreads/536216/gotten-lot-easier-away-murder	Jan 31 03:38
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schestowitz	"a national backlog of more than 200,000 unsolved murders that have accumulated since 1980."	Jan 31 03:38
schestowitz	http://www.businessinsider.com.au/badger-submarine-bart-jansen-2015-1	Jan 31 04:18
schestowitz	DAFAQ	Jan 31 04:18
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/561380321514364929	Jan 31 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: Just watched @aral's talk, 100% agree with importance of good UX that doesn't spy. @schestowitz @charlesarthur @DanielEran @arebee @stevesi		Jan 31 04:31
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5504441	Jan 31 10:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Libreboot X200 laptop now FSF-certified to respect your freedom http://www.fsf.org/news/libreboot-x200-laptop-now-fsf-certified-to-respect-your-freedom #fsf #gnu #linux		Jan 31 10:48
schestowitz	http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/product/libreboot-x200	Jan 31 10:48
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5511069	Jan 31 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Russian nuclear bombers over Britain" a misleading headline you can only find in #dailyfail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2933765/Russian-nuclear-bombers-Britain-scared.html		Jan 31 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dailymail.co.uk \| Russian nuclear bombers over Britain and why we should all be VERY scared \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jll83 ]		Jan 31 10:49
schestowitz	"This is scary for Britons, but Russians have to get used to US and NATO planes over Russia and ships near Russian shores."	Jan 31 10:49
schestowitz	Because Russia always bombs countries, NATO never does... oh, wait. In Soviet Russia reversal?	Jan 31 10:49
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msb_	.	Jan 31 12:00
msb_	This friction with Russia began almost a year ago when the US gave FIVE BILLION DOLLARS to a bunch of Nazis to take over the government of Ukraine by military force: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 31 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca \| The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine \| Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ]		Jan 31 12:01
msb_	People in eastern Ukraine made it known that they did not want to live under a Nazi regime, and thousands were shot or bombarded by the new Nazi government.	Jan 31 12:04
msb_	The Ukrainian Nazi coup government shot down a Malaysian airliner, murdering hundreds of people, and blamed it on a Russian missile. However, pieces of the cockpit wall were found to have holes from projectiles entering from both port and starboard. These could not have come from a single missile, but must have come from the two Nazi Ukraine jet fighter planes that were observed on both sides of the airliner.	Jan 31 12:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/561496231953055744	Jan 31 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz since they're not convincing many of us, don't rate their chances #RuleOfLaw #Surveillance #Habeas Corpus #FreeSpeech #Spying		Jan 31 12:10
msb_	Thus it was a false-flag terror operation by the US-backed Nazi coup government.	Jan 31 12:10
msb_	Crimea, in eastern Ukraine, voted overwhelmingly to join Russia, which then annexed it.	Jan 31 12:12
msb_	The US has launched various economic attacks against Russia.	Jan 31 12:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561497333217910784	Jan 31 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 this is not true. Everyone has to read this: https://t.co/DeqEyi4mPz		Jan 31 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Cephurs: Evolution of Terrorist Propaganda: The Paris Attack and Social Media http://t.co/wKX1QOFisL … ht @kufr666		Jan 31 12:14
msb_	Here's how the Daily Mail article totally reverses cause and effect: "First, there is the West’s response to Russia’s invasion of Crimea and violent incursions into Ukraine."	Jan 31 12:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561497471764140032	Jan 31 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 it's not about "journalists and bloggers".		Jan 31 12:15
schestowitz	GCHQ targets those too, if they're considered too effective for popular resistance	Jan 31 12:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561497893740486656	Jan 31 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: ,@schestowitz @kaatje36 ppl are being murdered & the killings are being uploaded to the internet in order to generate more murder.		Jan 31 12:15
schestowitz	But that's not the sole target of spying and shaming	Jan 31 12:16
schestowitz	Wikileaks, based on this assessment, could be targeted (as it is) for uploading Collateral Murder video to YouTube	Jan 31 12:17
msb_	.	Jan 31 12:20
msb_	The Western fascist nations control and gain the support of their populations by feeding them false information via the government and corporate media. This false view of the world was portrayed as "The Matrix" in the movie of that name.	Jan 31 12:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561498509187489793 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561498738569797633	Jan 31 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 GCHQ is over-rated.		Jan 31 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 don't believe the WL hype		Jan 31 12:23
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561498867070697473 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561499053612343297	Jan 31 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Other issue. Read it though and can't take someone who wants to abolish anonymity seriously....		Jan 31 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Besides that, he has a commercial interest in fearmongering.		Jan 31 12:23
msb_	Usually it involves claims that the US and other Western nations are being attacked by terrible enemies, and so we must all support our governments and give up our freedoms so we can be protected.	Jan 31 12:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561499289873313792 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561499661593485313	Jan 31 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz it's not about abolishing anonymity. Some of us are sick of the threats and will use any tool to stop it		Jan 31 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz and there is no "anonymity" on the Internet. The idea affords a false sense of security.		Jan 31 12:24
schestowitz	Check our Tor	Jan 31 12:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561499720687026176 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561500220794863616 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561500302621544448	Jan 31 12:25
msb_	But it usually turns out that any attacks are done by fascist agents disguised as communists and now Moslems, in what are called false-flag operations.	Jan 31 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Last paragraph about Cloudflare is very clear.		Jan 31 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz I got sent a vine of some dude getting his head chopped off. I don't wanna see that shit.		Jan 31 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz What he wants is like blaming a knifes producer for someone who kills with it.		Jan 31 12:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561500507379077120	Jan 31 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz no, if u listen to his testimony that is not true. Want the link?		Jan 31 12:26
schestowitz	msb_: not really	Jan 31 12:26
schestowitz	it's often that they have some past links	Jan 31 12:26
schestowitz	like having been trained in Jordan	Jan 31 12:26
schestowitz	knowing there would be risk involved\	Jan 31 12:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561500660559257602	Jan 31 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz sure		Jan 31 12:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561500835809882113 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561500883595567104	Jan 31 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: ,@kaatje36 @schestowitz I'm not the only one who got a vine vid. They were sending them left and right to lots of women who dared speak out.		Jan 31 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz I don't want to see ugly naked ppl on the web either, but it's there :D		Jan 31 12:27
schestowitz	De-anonymisation would not stop it (let alone be possible)	Jan 31 12:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561501151200542720	Jan 31 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz So, that calls for targeted research not for blaming the platform it's sent over imo.		Jan 31 12:28
msb_	schestowitz: Can you be more specific? There are some small-scale attacks by actual Moslem crazies, but we should remember that Reagan created the major organization of these, the Mujahideen, to attack the moderate socialist government of Afghanistan.	Jan 31 12:28
schestowitz	With utmost respect I think that anti-Internet lobbies have had you believe that problem is anonymity	Jan 31 12:28
schestowitz	msb_: to attack USSR	Jan 31 12:29
schestowitz	or provoke	Jan 31 12:29
msb_	The Mujahideen later was called Al-Qaeda.	Jan 31 12:29
schestowitz	The Brits paid off some of the socialists	Jan 31 12:29
schestowitz	One son of theirs is my friend	Jan 31 12:29
msb_	schestowitz: Exactly!	Jan 31 12:30
schestowitz	No, it wasn't a rebrand per se	Jan 31 12:30
schestowitz	It's just that many who came from one group joined the other	Jan 31 12:30
schestowitz	So there was overlap	Jan 31 12:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561501220280745985 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561501775480782849	Jan 31 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz sorry but I draw the line at CP and snuff. Snuff combined w/ trying to silence ppl who disagree - is not gonna fly		Jan 31 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz me too, but as said targeting is the method imo and not taking out a platform.		Jan 31 12:31
schestowitz	Deterrence won't come through ban on anonymous use of Net	Jan 31 12:31
schestowitz	Just as a ban on encryption would not make the bad folks obey the law	Jan 31 12:32
msb_	There have been many cases in which the Western fascists have armed and financed the most evil people they could find, both to prevent working people in various nations from gaining control of their own governments, and to create "enemies" which can be used to scare the people of the Western nations into obedience.	Jan 31 12:33
msb_	I should have said to prevent working people in various nations from gaining control of their own governments AND ECONOMIES.	Jan 31 12:34
msb_	One of the worst examples is the provision of 75% of the financing for Hitler's military buildup by wealthy US businessmen: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis	Jan 31 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Human Society That Works For Everyone		Jan 31 12:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561502317196091392 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561502510696112128 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561502783372034049	Jan 31 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 he's not calling for that anyway. IS use hashtags and the accounts are ez to trace but Twitter does not much.		Jan 31 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 Twitter does "not much" under orders from the FBI according to the guy who asked for that report.		Jan 31 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz It does give a chance to monitor them though.		Jan 31 12:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561502976247070720 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561503079431168000 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561503312152125441	Jan 31 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Lots of fake accnts to fearmonger as well......		Jan 31 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz or even to troll. Take the cybercaliphate accnt; was clearly fake.		Jan 31 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz idc. I want the nigs off here so we can DDoS ;-)		Jan 31 12:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561503740986163200	Jan 31 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: ,@kaatje36 @schestowitz I don't care how, who, or why. I want DDoS cc: @Cephurs @IntelTweet @Colonel_Shami		Jan 31 12:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504146361434113 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504230260092929	Jan 31 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: They are terrified of DDoS. So they hide on @twitter It's not about "anonymity" @kaatje36 @schestowitz @IntelTweet @Cephurs		Jan 31 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz DDoS is very expensive.		Jan 31 12:40
schestowitz	and illegal	Jan 31 12:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504452239446017 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504685606313984	Jan 31 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 so what?		Jan 31 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 legality of DDoS has never actually been tested. All the guys took a plea deal.		Jan 31 12:45
schestowitz	Are you sure?	Jan 31 12:45
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561505338495889408 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561505383928565762	Jan 31 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 <--- is a spook, so he doesn't care if something is legal or not :P		Jan 31 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 no one will get arrested for DDoSing a IS upstream. It will never happen		Jan 31 12:46
schestowitz	http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/return-of-the-chindits-mod-reveals-cunning-defence-plan-10014608.html http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/31/british-army-facebook-warriors-77th-brigade	Jan 31 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk \| New British Army unit 'Brigade 77' to use Facebook and Twitter in psychological warfare - Home News - UK - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/jlmbo ]		Jan 31 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| British army creates team of Facebook warriors \| UK news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jlmbp ]		Jan 31 12:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561505856609865728	Jan 31 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz So if I get this right you want to hold platforms responsible for their users to isolate them		Jan 31 12:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561505960926384128	Jan 31 12:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 100 percent sure. The hosting company has more to lose by complaining. They are facing terror charges.		Jan 31 12:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561506336706686976	Jan 31 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 These units have existed for years already.		Jan 31 12:49
schestowitz	yes, but this is reaffirmation of the strategy	Jan 31 12:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561506613333614592	Jan 31 12:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Insane, that's not the right method and reading all content is a clear breach of human rights.		Jan 31 12:50
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561506890958770176	Jan 31 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz I am just a concerned citizen. But I don't like getting sent vine vids of some poor guy getting murdered.		Jan 31 12:51
schestowitz	If you blame the sender, no remedy here. If you blame the uploader, you can only try to break the Internet	Jan 31 12:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561507129820209153	Jan 31 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz srs. Who are they gonna complain to if the get DDoS? They will be arrested on the spot.		Jan 31 12:52
schestowitz	DDOS affects not only the target	Jan 31 12:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561507710894882816	Jan 31 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 DDoS is a form of protest. Like a "sit-in"		Jan 31 12:56
schestowitz	Tell that to the many people who have spent months DDOSing my sites	Jan 31 12:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561508276563869696	Jan 31 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Rooting them to take out their network seems more opportune to me. So, really targeted.		Jan 31 12:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561509144071794689	Jan 31 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 Could have been easily just one person with a big gun Roy; doesn't necessarily have to be several ppl.		Jan 31 13:01
schestowitz	One person with a botnet	Jan 31 13:01
schestowitz	Sit-ins don't last months	Jan 31 13:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561509424112472066	Jan 31 13:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz rooting is no good cuz that really can hurt innocents. DDoS just shuts them up and costs a lot of money,		Jan 31 13:02
schestowitz	Nuking their homes also costs a lot of money	Jan 31 13:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561509895846236160	Jan 31 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 Agreed. You speak your mind, makes you a target.		Jan 31 13:03
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561510540904640514	Jan 31 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz it'll be more than one person with a botnet ;-) this is why they hide on Twitter		Jan 31 13:06
schestowitz	Your arguments are very weak, reveals misunderstand or poor understanding of the Net	Jan 31 13:07
schestowitz	misunderstanding	Jan 31 13:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561510552691015680	Jan 31 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Why? Track an uploaded Vid, if mistake has been made and you get the IP, root, get the contacts, take out.		Jan 31 13:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561510608261361664 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561510743216910336 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561510840705093632 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561511098512596992	Jan 31 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz seems like a perfectly fine method to me.		Jan 31 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz that's why certain sites don't get targeted, this is already happening.		Jan 31 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz manbar.me		Jan 31 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Yeah but that one was outed months ago, so they ofc are aware not to use it		Jan 31 13:08
schestowitz	Ever dealt with DDOS attacks? I have, for many years (also for clients)	Jan 31 13:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561511792677896193	Jan 31 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 what do u mean by "dealt with DDoS attacks"? Never heard of them.		Jan 31 13:10
schestowitz	Ever had to protect a site from one?	Jan 31 13:11
schestowitz	DDOS attacks severely hurt not just the sites targeted	Jan 31 13:11
schestowitz	"he's trolling you; he's highly skilled with an agenda."	Jan 31 13:12
schestowitz	Yes, I'll ignore now	Jan 31 13:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561512316974276609	Jan 31 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz So? @kaatje36		Jan 31 13:12
schestowitz	Bye troll	Jan 31 13:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561512884472000512	Jan 31 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz Farsnews was over a million dollars damage. I'm not being a troll. Enlighten me. @kaatje36		Jan 31 13:16
schestowitz	"haha, don't say I said anything :D"	Jan 31 13:17
schestowitz	Of course, I regret wasting time on anonymous troll who bemoans anonymous trolls	Jan 31 13:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561513964643688451 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514051495137280 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514198341935104	Jan 31 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 over a million dollars damage and they got the message. They threatened us an their head of cyber-security was killed		Jan 31 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 got shot to death in a drive by		Jan 31 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 no more threat		Jan 31 13:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561514432304807937 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514803739381761 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514979191291904	Jan 31 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Let's agree to disagree on the MO used to target them.		Jan 31 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz I like the drive by shooting story cuz of the #opiran got ppl killed nonsense @asherahresearch		Jan 31 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch and it really happened. Unlike that rumor. Guy was shot to death		Jan 31 13:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561515292723920897 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561515678729900032	Jan 31 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch as one of the ppl targeted by this guy who was shot to death. I obviously took note		Jan 31 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch when real lives are at stake. I don't care about drama or money cuz of DDoS. Ppl still go home		Jan 31 13:28
schestowitz	"he has interesting pov's and it gives insight in how they think. I actually get along with him which puzzles me haha"	Jan 31 13:28
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561516913256185856	Jan 31 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch @RealityForger always be careful who u talk to on the Internet. Not my work http://t.co/N5HBnIvC6c		Jan 31 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Iranian cyber warfare commander shot dead in suspected assassination - Telegraph		Jan 31 13:39
MinceR	geekings	Jan 31 13:40
MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/BUyA9Cr.png	Jan 31 13:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/viejolex1/status/561522696765190144	Jan 31 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@viejolex1: @schestowitz @JesselynRadack @SurvivalistMind @Thomas_Drake1 @MarkSZaidEsq @bmaz scare her? i don't think you know who you're tangling with		Jan 31 13:56
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DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RHVoFpncgA	Jan 31 16:36
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Sosumi	just installed the current version of fedora	Jan 31 16:58
Sosumi	and to my actual surprise	Jan 31 16:58
Sosumi	system d is on it	Jan 31 16:58
Sosumi	I didn't actually expect that	Jan 31 16:58
XRevan86	Sosumi: You didn't :)?	Jan 31 16:58
Sosumi	nop	Jan 31 16:59
Sosumi	I actually didn't	Jan 31 16:59
XRevan86	Fedora was the very first distribution to adopt systemd.	Jan 31 16:59
XRevan86	adapt*	Jan 31 16:59
MinceR	fedora's been infected with cancerd for a long time	Jan 31 16:59
Sosumi	:(	Jan 31 17:01
*g2` is now known as NSA		Jan 31 17:01
*NSA is now known as g2`		Jan 31 17:01
XRevan86	Sosumi: Debian, Gentoo, Slackware.	Jan 31 17:01
Sosumi	the ones not adopting systemd	Jan 31 17:02
Sosumi	right?	Jan 31 17:02
XRevan86	Sosumi: Gentoo and Slackware are not, Debian has systemd by default but gives a choice.	Jan 31 17:02
Sosumi	choice is good	Jan 31 17:03
XRevan86	Gentoo also gives a choice and systemd is not by default.	Jan 31 17:03
Sosumi	but init isn't being deprecated, right?	Jan 31 17:04
XRevan86	Sosumi: In Debian it kinda is, still supported though.	Jan 31 17:04
Sosumi	ok	Jan 31 17:04
XRevan86	Sosumi: Consider using OpenRC :).	Jan 31 17:04
XRevan86	https://packages.debian.org/jessie/openrc	Jan 31 17:04
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Sosumi	:)	Jan 31 17:05
MinceR	debian is already adopting cancerd	Jan 31 17:06
MinceR	that's why there's devuan	Jan 31 17:06
XRevan86	MinceR: Devuan is not worth mentioning	Jan 31 17:06
MinceR	and the choice debian gives you is "you can use systemd or we'll break everything we can for you"	Jan 31 17:06
XRevan86	http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d	Jan 31 17:06
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MinceR	XRevan86: devuan's worth mentioning more than debian is	Jan 31 17:06
XRevan86	MinceR: So you think two worthless packages are more important than whole Debian?	Jan 31 17:07
XRevan86	(with or without systemd)	Jan 31 17:07
MinceR	i think that a working GNU/Linux distro is more important than yet another fedora with different logo and wallpaper	Jan 31 17:07
XRevan86	MinceR: That's a lot of assumptions.	Jan 31 17:08
XRevan86	1. Devuan not only exists but also works.	Jan 31 17:09
XRevan86	2. systemd transforms a distro into Fedora	Jan 31 17:09
MinceR	you might want to read poettering's plans.	Jan 31 17:09
XRevan86	MinceR: I am more interested in plans of Debian :).	Jan 31 17:10
XRevan86	systemd is free software and Poettering always have a chance to go to hell if systemd adopters think he is nuts.	Jan 31 17:11
MinceR	the plans of debian do not matter since they've adopted poettering as their master	Jan 31 17:13
MinceR	poettering is forcing them to his way in everything	Jan 31 17:13
XRevan86	MinceR: For now they think it's not that bad.	Jan 31 17:14
MinceR	which only increases the danger	Jan 31 17:14
MinceR	maybe they'll never realize their stuff is broken	Jan 31 17:14
MinceR	maybe it will only be too late	Jan 31 17:14
XRevan86	MinceR: I doubt that mega-plans of Poettering which implies major rethinking of distros can pass them :).	Jan 31 17:15
MinceR	what matters to me is that the debian TC has already committed to only making systemd work in their next alleged "stable" release	Jan 31 17:16
XRevan86	systemd can be forked and already is: http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/	Jan 31 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uselessd.darknedgy.net \| uselessd :: information system		Jan 31 17:16
MinceR	it's pointless to fork an inherently bad design	Jan 31 17:16
MinceR	you might as well be running windows or reactos	Jan 31 17:17
XRevan86	MinceR: ReactOS doesn't even work (just like Devuan :D)	Jan 31 17:17
MinceR	neither will jessie	Jan 31 17:17
XRevan86	they can't even make it not to fall into BSOD for 20 minutes in VirtualBox	Jan 31 17:18
XRevan86	MinceR: Jessie can work for 20 minutes without falling into kernel panic.	Jan 31 17:18
MinceR	ooh, 20 minutes	Jan 31 17:18
MinceR	that's enough for so much	Jan 31 17:18
MinceR	i could hire someone to reboot my jessie server every 20 minutes	Jan 31 17:18
MinceR	or i could just use a distro that isn't made by idiots	Jan 31 17:19
XRevan86	MinceR: I said that because of analogy with ReactOS	Jan 31 17:19
MinceR	as for cancerd systems not being fedora, do you realize that systemd already has sort of a package manager built in?	Jan 31 17:20
XRevan86	MinceR: No, I don't.	Jan 31 17:20
XRevan86	MinceR: How is it called?	Jan 31 17:20
XRevan86	https://startpage.com/do/search?cat=web&query=systemd-dnfd I guess not like thatю	Jan 31 17:22
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XRevan86	that.*	Jan 31 17:22
MinceR	i can't find it	Jan 31 17:22
DaemonFC	Time to go to the store and stock up on a few odds and ends before we get a foot of snow dumped on us. :P	Jan 31 17:23
DaemonFC	Winter Storm Linus	Jan 31 17:23
XRevan86	DaemonFC: Linus? Really?	Jan 31 17:24
XRevan86	It is wrong to call it Linus. Proper name is GNU+Linus.	Jan 31 17:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/isabell08481837/status/561541179742097408	Jan 31 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@isabell08481837: @ggreenwald @schestowitz before murder,suicide and war are these "mustlims" askedwhat is your religion so I can write my "advertising news"		Jan 31 17:25
DaemonFC	Yeah. That's what they named it.	Jan 31 17:26
XRevan86	MinceR: systemd somewhat sucks and gives doubts but it's not as evil as you're trying to make it look.	Jan 31 17:29
MinceR	yeah, it's worse	Jan 31 17:30
XRevan86	MinceR: No, it's not.	Jan 31 17:30
MinceR	i haven't mentioned most of the issues with it yet	Jan 31 17:30
XRevan86	MinceR: I'm sure they do exist just as in other projects.	Jan 31 17:31
MinceR	well, i guess they do exist in other projects such as windows and macos	Jan 31 17:31
MinceR	like the intentional non-portability	Jan 31 17:31
MinceR	(and refusing to accept patches to fix it)	Jan 31 17:32
XRevan86	MinceR: {e,}udev is not portable either.	Jan 31 17:32
MinceR	yes, udev is also crap	Jan 31 17:33
MinceR	and tied to systemd	Jan 31 17:33
XRevan86	MinceR: And eudev?	Jan 31 17:33
MinceR	there's some hope for that	Jan 31 17:33
XRevan86	MinceR: It will not ever be portable.	Jan 31 17:34
MinceR	as its maintainers are not as malicious as poettering	Jan 31 17:34
XRevan86	MinceR: Is Devuan malicious?	Jan 31 17:34
MinceR	systemd non-portability already killed Debian GNU/HURD and Debian GNU/kFreeBSD	Jan 31 17:34
MinceR	not afaict	Jan 31 17:34
XRevan86	MinceR: Devuan only accepted donations and do/did nothing.	Jan 31 17:35
MinceR	doesn't look like it does nothing	Jan 31 17:35
XRevan86	MinceR: What they did?	Jan 31 17:35
XRevan86	examples of real work	Jan 31 17:35
MinceR	there's LoginKit, for example	Jan 31 17:36
MinceR	though i'm not sure if i'll use it	Jan 31 17:36
XRevan86	MinceR: How is it related to Devuan?	Jan 31 17:36
MinceR	it's made for devuan and its developer was helped out from donations to devuan, afaik	Jan 31 17:37
XRevan86	MinceR: Yeah, I heard Devuan folks said they were planning to give some of the donations to him.	Jan 31 17:38
XRevan86	Still I don't know if he actually get some.	Jan 31 17:38
MinceR	afaik they already did	Jan 31 17:38
MinceR	also, to you, a project doesn't exist until it does its first release?	Jan 31 17:38
XRevan86	MinceR: Until it gets some work into repo.	Jan 31 17:39
MinceR	https://git.devuan.org/explore/projects	Jan 31 17:41
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XRevan86	MinceR: I see LoginKit here.	Jan 31 17:41
XRevan86	no other actual work	Jan 31 17:41
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MinceR	but i'll probably just run Bedrock+Gentoo instead.	Jan 31 18:04
MinceR	so i can also get rid of polkit and consolekit :>	Jan 31 18:04
XRevan86	Useless trademark violation pictures presents: http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/15/0131/h_1422728064_3251273_8f50519120.png	Jan 31 18:18
XRevan86	Blue System → Blue Systems (:	Jan 31 18:18
MinceR	huh?	Jan 31 18:29
XRevan86	MinceR: Have you heard about Modern Talking?	Jan 31 18:31
MinceR	i have, but not much	Jan 31 18:32
XRevan86	MinceR: Blue System is a music band which happend after MT breakup.	Jan 31 18:33
XRevan86	(first one)	Jan 31 18:33
MinceR	what do they have to do with KDE?	Jan 31 18:33
XRevan86	MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems	Jan 31 18:34
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MinceR	oh.	Jan 31 18:34
MinceR	the Blue System logo clears it up :)	Jan 31 18:35
XRevan86	MinceR: :)	Jan 31 18:35
DaemonFC	16" of snow is coming.	Jan 31 22:19
DaemonFC	sigh	Jan 31 22:19
DaemonFC	Crap. I forgot to get popcorn while I was at the store.	Jan 31 22:19
MinceR	we haven't had a real winter in hungary for a while	Jan 31 22:25
XRevan86	This year winter is proper… since January.	Jan 31 22:30
XRevan86	in Russia	Jan 31 22:30
gde33	http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31039227	Jan 31 22:45
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XRevan86	in the North West, I mean	Jan 31 22:46
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schestowitz__	hi XRevan86, welcome	Jan 31 23:46
XRevan86	schestowitz__: Salute, thanks :).	Jan 31 23:46
XRevan86	I'm going to bed now, though…	Jan 31 23:46
XRevan86	I'm not sleeping now only because I'm busy answering a letter.	Jan 31 23:47
XRevan86	Good night, folks.	Jan 31 23:51
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gde33	msb_: we could lobby for a news interupt	Jan 24 13:52
msb_	gde33: yes, the toaster and microwave could make them wait for their breakfast while they presented the story.	Jan 24 13:54
gde33	msb_: it certainly could	Jan 24 13:54
msb_	That would get their attention.	Jan 24 13:54
gde33	msb_: dont expect people to put effort into not knowing	Jan 24 13:55
gde33	msb_: I'm trying to figure out how to quantify employee/human influence into discrete units of logic	Jan 24 13:56
gde33	msb_: I think it is time to show that our world is ran by processes rather than by people	Jan 24 13:57
msb_	In what context?	Jan 24 13:57
gde33	all contexts	Jan 24 13:57
msb_	I think it's mostly run by psychopaths, whoe really are not human.	Jan 24 13:57
msb_	who	Jan 24 13:58
gde33	most people have this erronious concept in their head that the slave runs the farm	Jan 24 13:58
gde33	yes, that is the next level of logic	Jan 24 13:58
gde33	but i think you are still wrong about that	Jan 24 13:58
msb_	tell me	Jan 24 13:58
gde33	the board of directors is obligated by law to make money for investors	Jan 24 13:58
gde33	the investors may not make decisions	Jan 24 13:59
gde33	the employee is chained to his desk with stricktly defined instructions	Jan 24 13:59
gde33	if he fails to follow those accurately he will be replaced	Jan 24 13:59
msb_	of course	Jan 24 13:59
gde33	in government one does best not to have an opinion about anything	Jan 24 14:00
gde33	if one has 10 oppinions with 90% support one may have 0% left	Jan 24 14:00
gde33	msb_: see? the evil psychopaths dont really come into it	Jan 24 14:01
msb_	someone (or some things more accurately) made the decision to blow up the WTC, to invade afghanistan and iraq and libya and murder 2,000,000 people.	Jan 24 14:01
gde33	they get to chose investiments but those are motivated by earnings not by ideology	Jan 24 14:01
msb_	Those decisions were made by very evil psychopaths.	Jan 24 14:02
gde33	msb_: good example, lets use that one	Jan 24 14:02
gde33	it started long before with a plan	Jan 24 14:02
gde33	the plan used an attack on the wtc as an example cenario	Jan 24 14:02
gde33	it was extended	Jan 24 14:02
gde33	many people added little bits to the plan following their job description	Jan 24 14:04
msb_	Yes, it was lightly mentioned in the PNAC document.	Jan 24 14:04
gde33	everyone involved was expected to do the things they did	Jan 24 14:04
gde33	you could argue that a few people in that train of thought had the ability to stop it	Jan 24 14:05
gde33	but then they had to chose a different project	Jan 24 14:05
gde33	there is also the factor of conditioning	Jan 24 14:05
msb_	and everyone who gave the "go" order and ordered the missiles fired on those nations, and invaded those nations and murdered people was a monster Nazi psychopath.	Jan 24 14:06
gde33	all those propaganda riddled movies, news bulitins, books, speeches	Jan 24 14:06
gde33	ok good point	Jan 24 14:06
gde33	but the arms industry is still the biggest in the world	Jan 24 14:07
gde33	to sell weapons you need conflict	Jan 24 14:07
msb_	I'm not "blaming" the psychopaths as if they were human beings making decisions. They are mostly robotic.	Jan 24 14:07
gde33	if there are funds for conflict creation people can be hired to make one	Jan 24 14:07
gde33	yes, that is my point	Jan 24 14:08
gde33	the weapons manufacturer was already making weapons you see	Jan 24 14:08
gde33	the only thing missing was the sales pich	Jan 24 14:08
gde33	pitch	Jan 24 14:08
msb_	But the ones that actually pull the levers are good targets to be acted against. Tried, convicted, and imprisoned for life.	Jan 24 14:08
gde33	definetly	Jan 24 14:08
gde33	I'm more interested in the rest of our economy where the scripted "AI" is in full control	Jan 24 14:09
msb_	The whole thing started with the JCI religion thousands of years ago, and it's still wrecking our culture.	Jan 24 14:09
msb_	AI?	Jan 24 14:09
gde33	I think it is important to show this with data, scientifically if you like	Jan 24 14:10
gde33	in a way that can not be doubted	Jan 24 14:10
msb_	The "holy books" order people to murder everyone who doesn't worship the diety.	Jan 24 14:11
gde33	but still, in the war games industry the concept does still seem to work	Jan 24 14:11
gde33	msb_: if I put a chip in your head you would make a fine war president	Jan 24 14:11
msb_	The whole thing has to be seen from a system standpoint.	Jan 24 14:11
gde33	religion is a script	Jan 24 14:11
gde33	written in a scripting language	Jan 24 14:12
lenngray	While it _is_ the feduciary duty of the directors of companies to "do whatever" for either profit or shareholder value, and coming out of that, also the duty of all the progressively lower-level "employees", it's not a case of them being bound by "law". It's merely a "contract" to do that. And although staying, soullessly, in that "program" is what most people do for "a living", it doesn't make it other than	Jan 24 14:12
lenngray	psychopathic.	Jan 24 14:12
gde33	humans execute it without questioning it	Jan 24 14:12
gde33	they still have their own will but if it doesn't influence the process the process is self serving	Jan 24 14:12
gde33	my suppermarket employes 14 year olds	Jan 24 14:13
gde33	they have to get a diploma, pass many screening tests, then they get a minimum wage part time job	Jan 24 14:13
msb_	It's a complex, self-reinforcing system involving parents with psychopathic behavior abusing children emotionally and sometimes physically, which makes them ready to commit murder later.	Jan 24 14:13
gde33	yes	Jan 24 14:14
gde33	but our believes in banking are not different from religious believes	Jan 24 14:15
gde33	likewise there is the worshipping of jobs without any consideration for how useful the work is	Jan 24 14:15
gde33	but a religion is an almost static script	Jan 24 14:16
msb_	Simply put, I think psychopathy is a defense mechanism, the simplest possible: kill everyone near you and then no-one can hurt you.	Jan 24 14:16
gde33	those days are over it seems, companies are now able to generate scripts	Jan 24 14:16
gde33	msb_: definetly	Jan 24 14:16
lenngray	Looking at the level of corporate behavior with regard to "law", once a company has enough cash-flow to have lawyers on staff, it's the job of those lawyers to show (and insist) that anything the company did or does _was_ and _is_ "legal", so the corporate purpose of 99% of all modern corporations, "to do whatever is legal for the corporation to do", reduces, in the presence of those staff attorneys to "to do whatever	Jan 24 14:16
lenngray	for money".	Jan 24 14:16
gde33	if the group fails we revert back to self serving behavior	Jan 24 14:17
gde33	lenngray: exactly	Jan 24 14:17
gde33	they are stripped from their humanity in the job description	Jan 24 14:17
msb_	I think psychopaths -- mostly programmed, by parents and upbringing -- have learned to organize together.	Jan 24 14:18
msb_	So now the entire international-facing part of the govt and the congress and exec that controls it is one huge psychopath organization.	Jan 24 14:19
gde33	it isn't permanent, they just turn into psychos when the group fails to support them, eventually they go back to groups again	Jan 24 14:19
msb_	No, they turned into 'paths when their parents, teachers, other kids, etc. failed to treat them kindly.	Jan 24 14:20
gde33	oh the return to empathy may take 1000 years	Jan 24 14:21
msb_	That permanently installed fear and hate at the center of their personality.	Jan 24 14:21
gde33	indeed	Jan 24 14:21
lenngray	When you say it isn't permanent, I think it is. The groups are also psychopathic, supporting the same behavior of any potential individual who might "exit".	Jan 24 14:22
gde33	but they dont call it that strangely enough	Jan 24 14:22
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gde33	but what about the rest of us? surely half the flaw sits with all these self proclaimed loving and caring people?	Jan 24 14:23
msb_	No. To diminish cognitive dissonance they call it patriotism, protection, etc.	Jan 24 14:23
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msb_	Because we don't do anything about this?	Jan 24 14:23
gde33	msb_: just like the guy who should have stopped that war?	Jan 24 14:24
msb_	First we have to understand it all from a self-powered anti-life system.	Jan 24 14:25
gde33	with the mainstream views the way they are the politican can not stand for anything.	Jan 24 14:25
msb_	Then we have to figure out ways to clearly explain that to people.	Jan 24 14:25
gde33	yeah	Jan 24 14:25
msb_	Then we have to broadcast those explanations as widely as possible.	Jan 24 14:26
gde33	I think it would be good for someone "important" to publish a paper that conclusively shows that human ideals are of no concequence to the system we have.	Jan 24 14:26
msb_	Otherwise the zombies just keep lumbering on.	Jan 24 14:26
gde33	a conclusive formula that shows you that you are the main cause of all the things you dont like	Jan 24 14:27
msb_	There are many who have done that.	Jan 24 14:27
msb_	That's not a good formulation.	Jan 24 14:27
gde33	there are?	Jan 24 14:27
gde33	yes it is, if you want people to act on it.	Jan 24 14:27
msb_	but it's untrue.	Jan 24 14:28
gde33	why?	Jan 24 14:28
msb_	I didn't cause any of the murders.	Jan 24 14:28
gde33	you've failed to educate everyone	Jan 24 14:28
gde33	I didn't say it was a reasonable task	Jan 24 14:28
gde33	but if anyone is ever going to stop this thing it can only be you	Jan 24 14:29
msb_	not for lack of trying, and hopefully I'm learning to do it better	Jan 24 14:29
lenngray	The problem is the assumption that we're already in any kind of state where "let thine eye be single" is true.	Jan 24 14:29
lenngray	We're fragmented, and only part of a person causes the bad.	Jan 24 14:29
lenngray	And he gets to ignore that he did the bad, thinking "that's not ME".	Jan 24 14:30
gde33	our fragmentation seems the most important goal of the systems	Jan 24 14:30
lenngray	True	Jan 24 14:30
msb_	yep. It makes it much easier for the system to control us.	Jan 24 14:30
gde33	the housing prices also feed into lack of community	Jan 24 14:32
msb_	Most people are currently unable to think accurately. So we have to explain the situation to them in various ways and try to penetrate their active-ignorance.	Jan 24 14:32
msb_	The more they wake up, the better we can communicate with them.	Jan 24 14:33
gde33	so far the only plan I could think of was to ring their doorbell, ask them if they want to help, then if they say no set fire to the house	Jan 24 14:33
lenngray	8)	Jan 24 14:34
gde33	not really a workable concept	Jan 24 14:34
msb_	We have the advantage today of seeing physical systems with positive feedback -- PA systems, computer viruses, biological viruses.	Jan 24 14:35
gde33	maybe something with rubber heads on poles	Jan 24 14:35
msb_	Self-sustaining systems with harmful effects.	Jan 24 14:35
msb_	a very important thing to understand.	Jan 24 14:35
msb_	Before this era, people could only think that some invisible outside force was causing people to behave adversely =-- god, demons, miasma, etc.	Jan 24 14:37
msb_	Now we know that humans are susceptible to self-sustaining familial and cultural psychopathy.	Jan 24 14:38
msb_	It's not a good defense mechanism, but obviously we are wired for it, and it's pretty easy to trigger.	Jan 24 14:38
gde33	I wrote a news aggregator that takes some thousands of feeds just to keep track of what is going on	Jan 24 14:39
gde33	it tries to filter out popular propaganda	Jan 24 14:39
gde33	but how do we build a new community?	Jan 24 14:40
msb_	Probably different species of primates have different levels of triggering of the psychopathy. Bonobos are much nicer people than chimpanzees.	Jan 24 14:40
gde33	I tried some years ago to compile a list of nice organizations that everyone should sign up to	Jan 24 14:41
gde33	perhaps we can automate a subscription system for that?	Jan 24 14:41
gde33	they all do press releases and blog postings but we need one central location where all of their stuff is combined	Jan 24 14:42
msb_	We first have to write effective explanations of the self-sustaining familial and cultural psychopathy, describing the cultural and familial forces that implement it, and how it limits people's ability to think.	Jan 24 14:43
msb_	Until people understand that anti-human system that humans have gotten themselves into, there's no point in explaining anything else to them.	Jan 24 14:45
msb_	The self-sustaining psychopathy is the prime cause. It has to be understood first for a person to have any idea of what's going on in the world.	Jan 24 14:46
gde33	I think we have to work with what we have, they all have one good thought	Jan 24 14:46
gde33	wrapping the organizations doing good things into a politically correct opinion free wrapper might be a way to tap into that	Jan 24 14:47
msb_	Wilhelm Reich did some of the best work in understanding and revealing this.	Jan 24 14:47
gde33	yeah	Jan 24 14:47
msb_	I have a copy of a book called Reich for Beginners, from England I think, that explains his work well.	Jan 24 14:48
msb_	Before 2000 I made several calls to the publishers, but they seem to have evaporated.	Jan 24 14:48
msb_	So it would be good if I scanned it and made a pdf, and broadcast it openly.	Jan 24 14:49
msb_	If they get pissed I can just do it on BT only.	Jan 24 14:49
lenngray	The existence of actual good information falls prey to the success of the idea of the "sound bite".	Jan 24 14:49
lenngray	People can just spout off the top of their heads things like "we're a country of laws, not of people".	Jan 24 14:49
lenngray	And they _do_ just spout such things off the tops of their heads.	Jan 24 14:50
msb_	Well, that's a good thing to point out.	Jan 24 14:50
msb_	The self-sustaining psychopathy -- let's call it the Plague for short -- has many methods of fighting exposure -- many propaganda techniques, cutting off communication, etc.	Jan 24 14:52
msb_	We can list these, and properly attribute them to the Plague.	Jan 24 14:53
gde33	facinating, indeed the sound bite is the prime mover in dividing people	Jan 24 14:53
gde33	I declare "The War On The Sound Bite!"	Jan 24 14:54
gde33	let them debunk that with their 20 second effort	Jan 24 14:54
gde33	this was how far I got at the time http://blog.go-here.nl/7980	Jan 24 14:58
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msb_	gde33: Very good set of links in the middle of that page!	Jan 24 15:06
gde33	its crude but a start	Jan 24 15:07
gde33	I feel someone must combine all the projects into one easy to navigate website	Jan 24 15:07
gde33	the list is kinda old now, they've all existed for quite some time	Jan 24 15:08
gde33	some died or are gone but the rest is all quite established	Jan 24 15:09
msb_	but maybe all their different approaches will work with various different people.	Jan 24 15:09
msb_	so having so many is good	Jan 24 15:10
gde33	cant expect average netzen to make sense of all these things	Jan 24 15:10
gde33	the thing for them might be out there, unlikely they would find it	Jan 24 15:10
msb_	gde33: You could add David Korten and Stefan Verstappen to your page. There are links on mine - cosmicpenguin.com	Jan 24 15:13
msb_	Also Michael Parenti and sott.net	Jan 24 15:15
gde33	is verstappen running a project for this?	Jan 24 15:15
msb_	He has some good videos about psychopathy.	Jan 24 15:16
gde33	ideally it will be a list of organizations that do things, not sure what korten is doing here http://www.davidkorten.org/	Jan 24 15:16
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gde33	it looks lovely ofc	Jan 24 15:16
gde33	ah he has some links here to "get involved" http://www.davidkorten.org/how-to-get-involved	Jan 24 15:17
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msb_	two Verstappen links in my blue box near the top.	Jan 24 15:18
gde33	ill check those out later, looks interesting	Jan 24 15:19
gde33	but dont get me wrong, I'm not trying to make a repository of good ideas	Jan 24 15:19
gde33	I want to unite the greenpeace and kiva kind of organizations into one wrapper	Jan 24 15:19
msb_	That Korten video is great!	Jan 24 15:19
gde33	things that involve actual action not simply ideas, efforts to sell books or magazines	Jan 24 15:20
gde33	if I would include those the list would be in the thousands	Jan 24 15:20
msb_	Maybe the dozens.	Jan 24 15:20
msb_	But people are so badly indoctrinated that they need a lot of good stuff to read .	Jan 24 15:21
gde33	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictures_of_Starving_Children_Sell_Records	Jan 24 15:21
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msb_	So they can get unscrewed well enough to be motivated to do somethiing, and choose the right thing.	Jan 24 15:22
msb_	Well anyhow, I'm gonna steal stuff from _your_ website!	Jan 24 15:22
gde33	A library is so hard to make	Jan 24 15:22
gde33	haha, good luck!	Jan 24 15:23
msb_	Nah, not with html.	Jan 24 15:23
msb_	Just make some categories, put those in pastel-colored boxes. Download my html to see how, if you need to.	Jan 24 15:25
msb_	Hey, you already have Verstappen in Conspiracy. Or did you just put that in.	Jan 24 15:25
gde33	hehe	Jan 24 15:26
gde33	I stopped knowing what is onthere at post 4000 or so	Jan 24 15:26
msb_	I like the politics and finance video a little better.	Jan 24 15:27
msb_	scientists is misspelled at the bottom of the conspiracy page	Jan 24 15:27
gde33	I wish I could easily make all the youtube videos into torrents	Jan 24 15:27
msb_	Why?	Jan 24 15:28
gde33	because everythign older than 5 years has a 30% chance to be gone	Jan 24 15:28
gde33	ALL google videos are gone	Jan 24 15:28
gde33	it would be nice to have a torrent link under each video	Jan 24 15:29
gde33	google does elaborate censorship	Jan 24 15:29
msb_	I just copy them using youtube-dl http://youtube-dl.org/ and point to them. Then BT them if they disappear and you can't get them back up.	Jan 24 15:29
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gde33	they avoid contagious areas to save money	Jan 24 15:29
gde33	takes a lot of manual labor to do that :/	Jan 24 15:30
gde33	does this link work? http://www.idealist.org/search/v2/?qs=QlpoOTFBWSZTWVbWDMkAAD8fgAMAMAIBAAAAvuffoCAAciI0AAAGgaJlPKZTeo0meiRsbLANxov0zNteAk4QDGZ0DAuucqC2eeRbeAT3p5VZFIBMzjgboDlr3GT-GlBqoM3t5Cf61gWBKSSqEYD-eISBjsTgGaiufxdyRThQkFbWDMk=	Jan 24 15:32
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msb_	Yes, but this one works better! http://www.idealist.org/search/v2/?search_type=org	Jan 24 15:35
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msb_	gde33: "contagious areas"?	Jan 24 15:36
msb_	do you mean contentious?	Jan 24 15:36
gde33	anything involving conflict basically	Jan 24 15:36
msb_	yup, then contentious	Jan 24 15:37
gde33	or stigma	Jan 24 15:37
gde33	it is hard to capture it in a few words	Jan 24 15:37
gde33	anything that may involve extra work or legal implications	Jan 24 15:38
gde33	if you ask for a site to be banned because of bla bla they will do so	Jan 24 15:38
gde33	if you ask for your site to be unbanned they will do that to if bla bla doesnt make much sense	Jan 24 15:38
gde33	the corporate interests are always right	Jan 24 15:39
msb_	Well you can always put the videos on your site. They can't take them off that way.	Jan 24 15:39
gde33	they can still remove you from the search index	Jan 24 15:39
gde33	talk about automated processes ruling people... hah...	Jan 24 15:40
msb_	Yeah, one shitpig destroyed Usenet for file-sharing by automatically issuing takedowns for everything.	Jan 24 15:41
gde33	I blame ignorant software developers who cant escape the info shilling	Jan 24 15:44
gde33	hah ideallist is already doing everything I thought of and more	Jan 24 15:49
msb_	The 94000 orgs?	Jan 24 15:53
gde33	http://www.idealist.org/info/About/Funding	Jan 24 15:53
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gde33	http://www.idealist.org/info/About/History	Jan 24 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jj43u	Jan 24 18:03
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jj43v	Jan 24 18:04
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schestowitz	> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2873561/google-just-made-it-easier-to-run-linux-on-your-chromebook.html	Jan 24 18:17
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schestowitz	>	Jan 24 18:17
schestowitz	> promoting the theme that Chrome is somehow not linux, another reason to	Jan 24 18:17
schestowitz	> clarify with GNU/Linux vs Android/Linux and Chrome/Linux.	Jan 24 18:17
schestowitz	yes, I have already rebutted this article over this flaw. Rianne found it.	Jan 24 18:17
cubexyz	Chrome OS is more of a thin client	Jan 24 18:23
cubexyz	haven't really used it much though	Jan 24 18:24
msb_	cubexyz: Hi! did you get my mail?	Jan 24 18:25
cubexyz	checking	Jan 24 18:26
cubexyz	I think Chrome OS does use a patched Linux kernel, so Chrome/Linux seems a reasonable description	Jan 24 18:26
cubexyz	msb_, got it	Jan 24 18:27
msb_	great!	Jan 24 18:27
cubexyz	should I throttle or...?	Jan 24 18:28
MinceR	i thought it also used GNU	Jan 24 18:28
msb_	cubexyz: nope -- let 'er rip.	Jan 24 18:28
cubexyz	msb_, ok :)	Jan 24 18:28
cubexyz	MinceR, yes I believe that's right	Jan 24 18:30
cubexyz	I think there's some proprietary stuff in there too	Jan 24 18:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Armello and Perfect Golf in EA on Steam	Jan 24 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/8Dguli9F7k (www.tuxarena.com)	Jan 24 18:31
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cubexyz	and naturally Stallman doesn't approve of it	Jan 24 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ninja Blocks prepares to begin shipping,	Jan 24 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	announces major Ubuntu IoT deal	Jan 24 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/IiXYVjU4Fx	Jan 24 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.startupsmart.com.au)	Jan 24 18:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jj4cd	Jan 24 18:31
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MinceR	well yes, chrome is proprietary	Jan 24 18:31
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jj4cf	Jan 24 18:31
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cubexyz	you want Chromium OS if you want all the source	Jan 24 18:32
cubexyz	how many chromebooks do you figure were sold? anyone have numbers?	Jan 24 18:35
cubexyz	5.2 million units in 2014	Jan 24 18:37
MinceR	dunno, but they did make the news at least twice for being top 10 or something on amazon	Jan 24 18:37
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MinceR	gn	Jan 24 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ninja Blocks prepares to begin shipping,	Jan 24 20:37
TweetTuxMachines	announces major Ubuntu IoT deal	Jan 24 20:37
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XFaCE	gde33: http://torrentfreak.com/zombie-pirate-bay-tracker-fuels-chinese-ddos-attacks-150124/	Jan 25 01:01
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XFaCE	here's a clusterfuck	Jan 25 01:01
XFaCE	"The suspicion that Chinese efforts to censor the Internet have something to do with the problems seems plausible. Querying Chinese DNS servers returns many seemingly random IP-addresses that change all the time. "	Jan 25 01:02
gde33	XFaCE: hahaha	Jan 25 01:02
XFaCE	yep	Jan 25 01:02
XFaCE	beautiful	Jan 25 01:02
XFaCE	gde33: and let's not forget during the SOPA shit	Jan 25 01:04
XFaCE	"The MPAA's Michael O'Leary showed support for regimes that censor the internet, by saying that "the internet isn't broken" in places like China and Iran... He really should spend some time there speaking to those who have been censored. "	Jan 25 01:04
XFaCE	gde33: slowclap...clap..clap...clap	Jan 25 01:04
gde33	I one time suggested we add the mpaa website as the default tracker to all torrents so that they can keep track of what we are doing	Jan 25 01:04
gde33	as a random act of kindness	Jan 25 01:04
XFaCE	gde33: plus, they'll get more traffic	Jan 25 01:05
gde33	yeah	Jan 25 01:05
XFaCE	I bet they'd like that	Jan 25 01:05
gde33	I wonder howmany gigahits per second that would do	Jan 25 01:05
gde33	it is really strange how lone persons can oppose the whole world like this	Jan 25 01:06
gde33	on the other end of the spectrum we see whole races and religions profiled by the acts of single indeviduals	Jan 25 01:09
XFaCE	well to be fair, I profile the MPAA based on Michael here	Jan 25 01:09
XFaCE	I think it's pretty typical	Jan 25 01:10
gde33	he quit the job anyway :D	Jan 25 01:11
gde33	“Having accomplished most of my goals at the MPAA, I am excited to move on to new career challenges,"	Jan 25 01:12
XFaCE	gde33: he ain't not one but 99 doughnuts!	Jan 25 01:14
XFaCE	*ate	Jan 25 01:14
gde33	interesting how they earn millions by forcing people to do things for them	Jan 25 01:15
XFaCE	gde33: Also, he deposited fecal matter in their waste facilities and verbal diarhea in the press statements	Jan 25 01:15
gde33	one does not simply pull dns records	Jan 25 01:18
XFaCE	yep, the MPAA vision for the internet - like China, random sporatic DDOSing	Jan 25 01:19
XFaCE	gde33: I suppose it'd be more equitable - before you could have been DDOSed for a reason, a cause, or something	Jan 25 01:19
XFaCE	now everyone can be ddosed for no reason whatsoever!	Jan 25 01:20
XFaCE	it's up to the great firewall - knows all DNS, sees all DNS	Jan 25 01:20
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/559153608894054401	Jan 25 01:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com \| Librem 15, the first free software GNU/Linux laptop, makes funding goal \| ZDNet		Jan 25 01:21
XFaCE	schestowitz: intel blobs?	Jan 25 01:21
schestowitz	yes	Jan 25 01:22
XFaCE	in which component?	Jan 25 01:22
schestowitz	nor sure...	Jan 25 01:27
schestowitz	*not	Jan 25 01:27
cubexyz	a free laptop would be something like a thinkpad X60 with coreboot	Jan 25 02:22
cubexyz	or lemote	Jan 25 02:22
cubexyz	laptops are a problem actually	Jan 25 02:26
cubexyz	I haven't really seen one with interchangeable parts	Jan 25 02:27
cubexyz	unless you want an Osborne, which was a luggable not a laptop	Jan 25 02:28
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cubexyz	hold on a sec, looks like the librem 15 does use coreboot	Jan 25 02:33
cubexyz	so it is a step forward	Jan 25 02:34
cubexyz	Librem 15 needs the Intel FSP, otherwise known as the "Intel Memory Reference Code"	Jan 25 02:36
cubexyz	so the FSP would have to be analyzed to create source code for the controller and memory initialization process	Jan 25 02:38
cubexyz	http://puri.sm/posts/bios-freedom-status/	Jan 25 02:39
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cubexyz	there are "more free" laptops out there, but it looks like the FSF is working on it, which is good	Jan 25 02:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Intel Broadwell HD Graphics 5500: Windows 8.1	Jan 25 03:05
TweetTuxMachines	vs. Linux http://t.co/4UzA17svIf	Jan 25 03:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 03:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jj85m	Jan 25 03:05
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arossdotme	cubexyz: interchangeable cpu,ram,graphics in a user friendly module : http://rhombus-tech.net	Jan 25 05:40
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arossdotme	and for example the wifi in the tablet is a off the shelf module laptop module so it's upgradable. i forgot the name of the standard	Jan 25 05:41
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cubexyz	thanks arossdotme	Jan 25 06:07
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 25 06:10
DaemonFC	2 hrs ·	Jan 25 06:10
DaemonFC	The Mac to Windows malware ratio has been moving decidedly in favor of using Windows. Since XP, Microsoft has gotten the number of infected PCs per 100,000 down by 2/3rds while Mac malware has exploded.	Jan 25 06:10
DaemonFC	Microsoft has been taking security more seriously these days while Apple still (1) doesn't care at all, (2) denies that there is a problem with Mac OS even as it continues to turn into a playground for malware by instructing their support representatives to play dumb and not help people disinfect their Mac, and (3) convinces people who have been the victim of Mac malware to keep quiet about it.	Jan 25 06:10
DaemonFC	Item 3 is easy because people naturally don't want to admit to having made a mistake, like spending 2-3 times as much on a Mac and then getting fucked over in the end anyway, so like iPhone users, they insist it always works, even though it doesn't.	Jan 25 06:10
DaemonFC	http://www.zdnet.com/pictures/five-antivirus-scanners-for-mac/	Jan 25 06:10
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 25 07:05
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Jan 25 07:05
DaemonFC	Some iPhone customers have noticed that the four major carriers are charging them an "upgrade fee" to get the new iPhone 6 even if their contract is up. The "upgrade fee" is in addition to the up front cost of the iPhone.	Jan 25 07:05
DaemonFC	Why can carriers do that? They realize that they're mostly dealing with idiots. Idiots with deep pockets. In other words, "Never give a sucker an even break.".	Jan 25 07:05
DaemonFC	http://consumerist.com/2014/09/12/the-only-way-to-avoid-paying-a-fee-for-iphone-upgrade-is-to-pay-full-price/	Jan 25 07:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-consumerist.com \| The Only Way To Avoid Paying A Fee For iPhone Upgrade Is To Pay Full Price – Consumerist [ http://ur1.ca/jja2v ]		Jan 25 07:05
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schestowitz	DaemonFC: good point	Jan 25 07:29
DaemonFC	I thought it was a nice touch. "$40 upgrade fee" just for iPhones. Hahahaaa!	Jan 25 07:30
DaemonFC	These carriers are fucking parasites. Like, they're already selling you a $600-700 phone every couple of years, and that's on top of the monthly bill that's at least $90. The "phone insurance" policy is mostly profit for them too.	Jan 25 07:32
DaemonFC	You don't even get a new phone if something happens to yours.	Jan 25 07:32
DaemonFC	What they do is they take a refurbished phone (maybe not even done by the original manufacturer which means higher chance that it wasn't properly refurbished), or a used one that someone else traded in, and hand it to you.	Jan 25 07:33
DaemonFC	AT&T offers refurbished phones from the get-go now. You save a whopping $40 off of a $600 phone and take your chances that it won't still be defective when you get it.	Jan 25 07:34
DaemonFC	I think that the days where good phones start at around $500-600 are numbered.	Jan 25 07:34
DaemonFC	Too many good phones are starting to surface that are less than $200.	Jan 25 07:35
schestowitz	Android has free upgrades	Jan 25 07:38
DaemonFC	Well, the software, sure.	Jan 25 07:38
DaemonFC	I meant upgrading the hardware.	Jan 25 07:38
DaemonFC	The whole software upgrade thing depends mostly on which phone you buy.	Jan 25 07:39
DaemonFC	Stick to Nexus, Motorola, Samsung, or LG imo.	Jan 25 07:39
DaemonFC	My LG G2 has been great.	Jan 25 07:39
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schestowitz	hi dyfet	Jan 25 07:49
dyfet	hi!	Jan 25 07:50
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559340976784027649 https://twitter.com/HistoricaITweet/status/559330869077213184 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559338541797617666 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559335846428807168	Jan 25 08:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| London needs homes, not towers of ‘safe-deposit boxes’ \| Peter Wynne Rees \| Comment is free \| The Guardian		Jan 25 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HistoricaITweet: V.E. Day, 8th of May, 1945, London. By Wolfgang Suschitzky http://t.co/wcbbQ5K01t		Jan 25 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@HistoryPixs: V.E. Day, 8th of May, 1945, London. By Wolfgang Suschitzky http://t.co/d7e1QrHpko		Jan 25 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "GOP presidential hopeful...keynote...group that has blamed gay people for causing the Holocaust" http://t.co/lCd0YGUkFy #gop		Jan 25 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mediamatters.org \| The Jindal-Hate Group Relationship You Won't Hear About This Weekend \| Blog \| Media Matters for America		Jan 25 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #canada Planned Military Splurge Comes At The Expense Of Health Care⁰ http://t.co/TNJy1zcKeq turning from #uk standards to #us standards		Jan 25 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.projectcensored.org \| Harper's Planned Military Splurge Comes At The Expense Of Health Care		Jan 25 08:26
– Ethics Alerts
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559331811332206592 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559330786588237825 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559330675338518528	Jan 25 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another misleading headline that neglects to say #chromebooks already come with #linux http://t.co/3BkhuPDlVG they mean "a distro"		Jan 25 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jimlynch.com \| Google makes it easier to run Linux on a Chromebook via a USB drive…sort of… – Jim Lynch		Jan 25 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Which Android device works with Now TV? http://t.co/WDILV5Nonh #android #linux		Jan 25 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Which Android device works with Now TV? - Telegraph		Jan 25 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Rcpp 0.11.4 http://t.co/sOeJAuBvGw 0.11.4 "Rcpp has become the most popular way of enhancing #GNU R with C++ code."		Jan 25 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dirk.eddelbuettel.com \| Thinking inside the box		Jan 25 08:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559323511689592832 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559323142204968960	Jan 25 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Truth is so obscure https://t.co/wIVVqn3h4r		Jan 25 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #nypd http://t.co/Ao7YMYbqSI #police		Jan 25 08:27
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5481656	Jan 25 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ![](https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OmnBWelO4G8/VMTsOUJH7SI/AAAAAAAACC4/69ePf8xAfoA/w1365-h827-no/gnu-pc-mac.png) [hier gefunden](https://plus.google.com/u/0/101895113808276700521/posts/18RU5HFjPLr?pid=6108266725290536226&oid=101895113808276700521) #linux #science #mac #pc #advertising #gnulinux #opensource #openmind		Jan 25 11:44
schestowitz	"you did? how come you put #mono in there? :D"	Jan 25 11:44
schestowitz	"oh, it's the ass, now I understand"	Jan 25 11:44
schestowitz	Yes, back when we fought (successfully) to remove mono from distros (by default)	Jan 25 11:45
MinceR	https://www.eff.org//deeplinks/2015/01/britons-you-have-72-hours-stop-snoopers-charter	Jan 25 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org \| Britons: You Have 72 Hours to Stop The Snooper's Charter \| Electronic Frontier Foundation [ http://ur1.ca/jjci8 ]		Jan 25 12:03
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Vandahmier/status/559406766207672320	Jan 25 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vandahmier: RT @schestowitz We're Destroying the Planet in Ways That Are Even Worse Than #GlobalWarming http://t.co/yyJhqjCG4b http://t.co/Xi9vN2FvEA		Jan 25 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: We're Destroying the Planet in Ways That Are Even Worse Than #GlobalWarming http://t.co/XzEou0lrVi		Jan 25 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Vandahmier: RT @schestowitz We're Destroying the Planet in Ways That Are Even Worse Than #GlobalWarming http://t.co/yyJhqjCG4b http://t.co/Xi9vN2FvEA		Jan 25 12:47
MinceR	#GlobalHumanInfestation	Jan 25 12:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/RutaAkula/status/559416987567546368 https://twitter.com/KomalPorwal/status/559417085261262849	Jan 25 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@RutaAkula: @schestowitz Mother of IS-held Japanese hostage calls for release of son ----> [http://t.co/Z7GQoNlZXm]		Jan 25 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsroompost.com \| Mother of IS-held Japanese hostage calls for release of son - NewsroomPost		Jan 25 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KomalPorwal: @schestowitz Oil surges after Saudi King’s death [http://t.co/JKnaPN6Dmp]		Jan 25 13:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newsroompost.com \| Oil surges after Saudi King's death - NewsroomPost		Jan 25 13:27
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559387213658873856 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559389331417497601 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559394101662334976 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559394912693944320 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559395626870665217 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559395930643107841	Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Linux has this handled" https://t.co/EGuAQHlRd8		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: De-hyping 'the Cloud' https://t.co/2DxtXFGGyJ		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Intel #Broadwell HD #Graphics 5500: #Windows 8.1 vs. #Linux http://t.co/Tpm5kXzQTK		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.phoronix.com \| Intel Broadwell HD Graphics 5500: Windows 8.1 vs. Linux Review - Phoronix		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Even When Sharing Top Billing with Edward Snowden, the #NSA Is Unrepentant https://t.co/Yv7qqO1i7J DeLong's remarks		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org \| Even When Sharing Top Billing with Edward Snowden, the NSA Is Unrepentant - The Intercept		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Who Can Control N.S.A. Surveillance? http://t.co/mYUBUJ116Z #nsa #surveillance		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.newyorker.com \| Who Can Control N.S.A. Surveillance? - The New Yorker		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: NIST pledges transparency in #NSA dealings over #crypto standards http://t.co/tEAt85aysL too late. #nist now perceived like #darpa		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcadvisor.co.uk \| NIST pledges transparency in NSA dealings over crypto standards - PC Advisor		Jan 25 14:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559396536229322753 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559396735253221377 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559397663557562368 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559398086519562240 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559398401503404032	Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Kim Dotcom's NSA-Dodging MegaChat is HERE And It Wants To DESTROY Skype http://t.co/iLsSBsJ9Rn Spype http://t.co/KMvkOGSpsu		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.knowyourmobile.com \| Kim Dotcom's NSA-Dodging MegaChat is HERE And It Wants To DESTROY Skype \| Know Your Mobile		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Skype is Spy Campaign - Techrights		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Registered Mega users can try the platform for free at mega." http://t.co/qiYC8u5aXa		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.hindustantimes.com \| 'Anti-NSA' messaging service MegaChat debuts in beta version		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #cia was created for intelligence but ended up with assassination, torture, coups etc. #nsa created for intelligence, now cracking, defaming		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Everyone has something with need to hide from someone or someones (e.g. certain family, friends, maybe foreign governments). Reject spying.		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Shut it Down: Utah Bill Would Turn Off Water to #NSA Data Center http://t.co/LW3JslD1rk #utah joins many other states		Jan 25 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telepresenceoptions.com \| Shut it Down: Utah Bill Would Turn Off Water to NSA Data Center - Telepresence Options		Jan 25 14:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559398636401201152 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559399046394441728 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/559400267108843520	Jan 25 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Netherlands not the NSA’s lapdog: Interior Minister http://t.co/cEe4JW8W83 rejecting the metaphor maybe, not the facts		Jan 25 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.nltimes.nl \| Netherlands not the NSA's lapdog: Interior Minister - NL Times		Jan 25 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Left in #greece https://t.co/f8gSVabzH2		Jan 25 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #china realises that #apple has back doors http://t.co/18Drsn9C2Z http://t.co/B632MbQynd see http://t.co/QeQyS4PqE9		Jan 25 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.cultofmac.com \| China will screen all Apple products for NSA backdoor \| Cult of Mac		Jan 25 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.technologytell.com \| China to look at Apple products, fears NSA tampering \| TechnologyTell		Jan 25 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Apple — Like Microsoft — Not Interested in the Security of Its Operating Systems \| Techrights		Jan 25 14:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Flavors 15.04 Vivid Vervet Alpha 2	Jan 25 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	Released http://t.co/szzDEG6Nx9	Jan 25 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 15:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjeof	Jan 25 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Flavors 15.04 Vivid Vervet Alpha 2 Released \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 15:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenSSL 1.0.2 Branch Release notes	Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/h0JhrhjWmH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf0e	Jan 25 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OpenSSL 1.0.2 Branch Release notes \| Tux Machines		Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How to install Linux on a Chromebook	Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ngRL3kZTUx (www.digitaltrends.com)	Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	also new: Replace Windows 7 With Linux Mint	Jan 25 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| How to Install Linux on a Chromebook \| Digital Trends		Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QcdGkQLp8O	Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.everydaylinuxuser.com)	Jan 25 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com \| Replace Windows 7 With Linux Mint Without Overwriting Other Partitions « Everyday Linux User		Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf0f	Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Completely open source, high-end laptop gets	Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	closer to reality http://t.co/cSjgKWw8va	Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.engadget.com)	Jan 25 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.engadget.com \| Completely open source, high-end laptop gets closer to reality		Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf0i	Jan 25 16:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Signs of progress: One month with Android Wear	Jan 25 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	5.0 http://t.co/UBHTwxVvZZ (arstechnica.com)	Jan 25 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf4q	Jan 25 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Signs of progress: One month with Android Wear 5.0 \| Ars Technica		Jan 25 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calibre Gets a New Tool to Better Edit eBooks	Jan 25 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LvuvPzhSXO (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 25 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf4r	Jan 25 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Calibre Gets a New Tool to Better Edit eBooks - Softpedia		Jan 25 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Star Traders: 4X Empires Strategy Game Now On	Jan 25 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/GKG6K23u1C	Jan 25 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 25 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjf4s	Jan 25 16:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Star Traders: 4X Empires Strategy Game Now On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 25 16:46
*TweetTuxMachines @speedytux retweeted @tuxmachines: 'How to install Linux on a Chromebook ...'		Jan 25 16:46
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'How to install Linux on a Chromebook ...'		Jan 25 16:52
MinceR	gn	Jan 25 17:00
schestowitz	nn	Jan 25 17:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/JesperBothPede1/status/559472727095271425	Jan 25 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JesperBothPede1: @wikileaks Big surprise, eh? Check out yahoo and youtube and last but not least microsoft( just to be sure )		Jan 25 17:24
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5481876	Jan 25 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kim Dotcom's NSA-Dodging MegaChat is HERE And It Wants To DESTROY Skype http://www.knowyourmobile.com/devices/megachat/23020/kim-dotcoms-nsa-dodging-megachat-here-and-it-wants-destroy-skype Spype http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Skype_is_Spy_Campaign		Jan 25 18:26
schestowitz	"exactly; same will be with all those MEGA things if they don't open-source them"	Jan 25 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.knowyourmobile.com \| Kim Dotcom's NSA-Dodging MegaChat is HERE And It Wants To DESTROY Skype \| Know Your Mobile [ http://ur1.ca/jjewy ]		Jan 25 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Skype is Spy Campaign - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/9tkg0 ]		Jan 25 18:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/559492504454590467	Jan 25 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: Cc @ggreenwald @ioerror @schestowitz @NafeezAhmed & my friends at Google: my quick thoughts on #Kissinger at Google. https://t.co/S17ZxJFNS2		Jan 25 18:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> plus.google.com \| This particular interview of Dr. Henry Kissinger from mid-2013, apart from…		Jan 25 18:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ekiga 5 – Progress Report	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/T5Srg2TEwu (blog.ekiga.net)	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgj2	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyanogen Wants to Wrestle Android Away From	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	Google http://t.co/hZDPpyJBOA (gizmodo.com)	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgmy	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Netrunner 14.1, a GNU/Linux distribution based	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	on Kubuntu, featuring KDE as the default ... is	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	now available" http://t.co/weF9KJC1gy	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgmz	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus Can Be Set to Always	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	Show in Ubuntu 15.04 http://t.co/6YmlvafiZy	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn0	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Integrate Linux Kernel 3.19	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	Branch Soon http://t.co/hmT5jldUyZ	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn1	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 reasons Valve's Steam Machine dream is still	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	very alive http://t.co/mMk4ZrBgkX	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techradar.com)	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn2	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Build Your Own Open-Source SmartWatch	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/NA0Hq5Szdg (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn3	Jan 25 19:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Locally Integrated Menus Can Be Set to Always	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	Show in Ubuntu 15.04 http://t.co/G8cZvLPXic	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn4	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 to Integrate Linux Kernel 3.19	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	Branch Soon http://t.co/dZd7VVsWGh	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn7	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tizen Samsung Z1, made in India and soon to be	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	available in Bangladesh http://t.co/9k1J80BZWJ	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn8	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/7iMCwTsv3c	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgn9	Jan 25 19:32
*TweetTuxMachines @speedytux retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Build Your Own Open-Source SmartWatch http://t.co/NA0Hq5Szdg'		Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 25/1/2015: Android Wear 5.0, Tizen in	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	Bangladesh http://t.co/Ziedoyizrw	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgne	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/FMvOiHRn4U	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 19:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgng	Jan 25 19:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/aYKDAVln3j	Jan 25 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 20:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/gl9Yiud1Wb	Jan 25 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 20:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fixing unperceived errors in my X Windows	Jan 25 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	configuration http://t.co/eenRSnakIl	Jan 25 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 25 20:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjgwu	Jan 25 20:00
cubexyz	this is a little old, but worthy of attention:	Jan 25 21:34
cubexyz	http://thebreakfastpost.com/2012/06/17/repairable-laptops/	Jan 25 21:35
cubexyz	thinkpads don't have a bad lifespan	Jan 25 21:36
cubexyz	I still have a working R30 which I use a fair bit	Jan 25 21:37
cubexyz	so 13 years old	Jan 25 21:37
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 25 23:03
DaemonFC	5 mins · Edited ·	Jan 25 23:03
DaemonFC	Apple's software quality, such that it ever existed to begin with, is falling deeper into the garbage.	Jan 25 23:03
DaemonFC	When you pay $800 for a cell phone, is it acceptable that things like text messaging sometimes don't work because of bugs in the operating system?	Jan 25 23:03
DaemonFC	http://www.infoworld.com/article/2873356/applications/for-too-many-apple-users-it-doesnt-just-work.html	Jan 25 23:03
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| @lobrien Holy crap: IBM to cut over 100K employees:	Jan 25 23:05
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| retweeted by http://t.co/ndYjoFgwWn (www.itworld.com)	Jan 25 23:05
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| @gewt	Jan 25 23:05
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> \| ........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjhbz	Jan 25 23:05
schestowitz	[02:12] <qu1j0t3> who was i talking to recently that predicted this?	Jan 25 23:05
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XFaCE	[23:05:18]<schestowitz> [02:12] <qu1j0t3> who was i talking to recently that predicted this?	Jan 26 01:55
XFaCE	schestowitz: you?	Jan 26 01:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MBARI testing the waters with open source	Jan 26 02:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.19-Rc6 Released	Jan 26 05:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu's Mir Gains Server-Side Platform Probing	Jan 26 06:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: Android Wear's First	Jan 26 06:39
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.forbes.com)	Jan 26 06:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Updates Its Android Compatibility	Jan 26 06:40
TweetTuxMachines	Definition Document For Lollipop	Jan 26 06:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/eNcdd1f79I (www.androidpolice.com)	Jan 26 06:40
TweetTuxMachines	... https://t.co/AcWq1NviSK (joindiaspora.com)	Jan 26 06:40
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XFaCE	schestowitz: I assume you want to write about that new Android vulnerability	Jan 26 08:59
XFaCE	schestowitz: Basically I can see the narrative being pushed through three points	Jan 26 09:00
XFaCE	- Microsoft supported Windows XP/7/etc. for year, why doesn't Google support old Android versions	Jan 26 09:01
XFaCE	*years	Jan 26 09:01
XFaCE	- Google told Microsoft about a very old bug in their software, so they are hypocritical	Jan 26 09:01
XFaCE	- Heartbleed bug was fixed way back for 4.1.1	Jan 26 09:02
XFaCE	schestowitz: for the last point, it's a bullshit comparison because a) 4.1.1 was one point release where upgrading to 4.1.2 fixed the issue (it was already fixed back when 4.1.2 was released)	Jan 26 09:03
XFaCE	b) The fix was one file, as evident by XDA members patched it themselves on phones manufacturers refused to upgrade to 4.1.2 SOURCE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712916	Jan 26 09:05
XFaCE	c) As shown by the link, a lot of manufacturers DIDN'T update certain 4.1.1 devices to 4.1.2, hence proving Google's point. The fix there was SIMPLE, but the OEMs didn't bother to do it	Jan 26 09:05
XFaCE	With Webview, not only is webview involved, but so is the webkit rendering engine	Jan 26 09:06
XFaCE	so the fix for all those previously releases is much more complicated	Jan 26 09:06
XFaCE	as for the second point, Google did catch it, with KitKat, and furthermore made KitKat supported on more low-end devices so theoretically older 512mb or less devices could be updated	Jan 26 09:08
XFaCE	schestowitz: for example, HTC said (when Jelly Bean 4.1 came out) that they would not update any device with 512 mb of RAM (SOURCE: http://www.cnet.com/news/htc-one-v-and-desire-c-will-never-get-jelly-bean/ )	Jan 26 09:10
XFaCE	schestowitz: so naturally when KitKat came out, they updated those devices because the OS officially was designed for such low ram devices	Jan 26 09:12
XFaCE	oh wait	Jan 26 09:12
XFaCE	http://www.androidpit.com/android-4-4-kitkat-update-plans	Jan 26 09:12
XFaCE	"Later this year, the entry-level smartphone the HTC Desire 500, should also be seeing the KitKat update. However, the One X, One X+, One S, and One V will be left in the dust and will be receiving no more official updates from HTC.	Jan 26 09:13
XFaCE	"	Jan 26 09:13
XFaCE	so the OEMs are at fault for not upgrading the devices, not Google	Jan 26 09:13
XFaCE	which leads to point 1 - Google doesn't control the Android OEMs like Microsoft does	Jan 26 09:14
XFaCE	OEM pay Microsoft for the support whereby Microsoft controls all updates, Google doesn't	Jan 26 09:14
XFaCE	get paid	Jan 26 09:15
XFaCE	or have the agremeent in that way	Jan 26 09:15
XFaCE	the OEMs like HTC could easily fix this by porting Kitkat to those devices, but they won't cause they want you to buy a new HTC phone	Jan 26 09:15
XFaCE	or whatever phone brand	Jan 26 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Sony SmartWatch 3 Review: Android Wear's First	Jan 26 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	Generation Champion http://t.co/wCtHvKQLao	Jan 26 09:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Updates Its Android Compatibility	Jan 26 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Definition Document For Lollipop	Jan 26 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	@iArthurCDN http://t.co/eNcdd1f79I (www.androidpolice.com)	Jan 26 09:50
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx1O6RELDCRYHQN&newContentID=Mx2N04P4QX68HRC#Mx2N04P4QX68HRC	Jan 26 10:38
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 26 10:38
DaemonFC	It gets worse. Not wanting to take personal responsibility for anything they do, the Republicans in Indiana have given a blank check to a state-owned corporation called the "Indiana Economic Development Corporation" to do this sort of stupid crap on their behalf, while insulating them from the political fallout from actually having to vote for it.	Jan 26 10:38
DaemonFC	Every year, millions upon millions of Indiana taxpayer dollars flow through this corporation, which "picks winners and losers" and hands million dollar check to companies like Walmart to create jobs that would have been created either way.	Jan 26 10:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OEMs Adapt To The Decline In The Market For PCs	Jan 26 12:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015 XOrg Elections Get Underway For Board	Jan 26 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	Members, SPI Merger http://t.co/ILKzck3hQp	Jan 26 13:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How open source can be a gateway to your next	Jan 26 13:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OEMs Adapt To The Decline In The Market For PCs	Jan 26 13:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 2015 http://t.co/5vV90o4wJB (www.x.org)	Jan 26 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	Elections Get Underway For Board Members, SPI	Jan 26 14:30
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MinceR	http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/23/google-reveals-zero-day-mac-exploits/	Jan 26 14:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Portugal engineering lab: facts favour open	Jan 26 15:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Conjuring Android's best features	Jan 26 15:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 11 Linux Terminal Commands That Will Rock Your	Jan 26 15:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IPFire Is a Powerful Firewall Distro and It Was	Jan 26 15:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 7.8 "Wheezy" Live CD Now Available for	Jan 26 15:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MatchStick Hands-On: A Cheap Open Source	Jan 26 16:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why I prefer Samsung Gear’s Tizen to Android	Jan 26 16:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Xfce 0.8.12 RC1 Is a Surpring Release	Jan 26 16:14
TweetTuxMachines	That Further Improves the Xfce Experience	Jan 26 16:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google Project Ara Modules Will Be Compatible	Jan 26 16:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 8.0 "Jessie" RC1 Is Here, Test Away	Jan 26 16:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyanogen CEO says he wants to ‘take Android	Jan 26 16:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why I prefer Samsung Gear’s Tizen to Android	Jan 26 16:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Compiz Support Being Tested for Ubuntu MATE	Jan 26 16:33
TweetTuxMachines	14.04 LTS and Ubuntu 14.10, Install Now	Jan 26 16:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35.0.1 Now Out – My God, It's Full of	Jan 26 16:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evolve OS Is a Superb New OS Built from	Jan 26 16:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian 8.0 "Jessie" Installer RC1 Released	Jan 26 16:44
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 26 17:25
DaemonFC	I wonder how many more Republican chances at the White House Rmoney can blow before the Kochs give up and hire someone to assassinate him.	Jan 26 17:25
MinceR	lol	Jan 26 17:25
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TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 18:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft’s Media Attack on Free Software and	Jan 26 18:12
TweetTuxMachines	GNU/Linux http://t.co/rcs6o8pzsK	Jan 26 18:12
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 26 18:12
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 26 19:23
DaemonFC	14 mins · Edited ·	Jan 26 19:23
DaemonFC	Indiana Governor Mike Pence is going to pull a Vladimir Putin and start his own miniature "Russia Today". Is this even America?	Jan 26 19:23
DaemonFC	Apparently, hizzoner doesn't believe the real news is being fair to him, so apparently the new game plan is "waaah waah waaaah make crap up"....	Jan 26 19:23
DaemonFC	tongue emoticon	Jan 26 19:23
DaemonFC	Do you prefer realfact or goodfact, comrades? I'm a realfact kind of guy. smile emoticon	Jan 26 19:23
DaemonFC	http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/01/26/pence-starts-state-run-news-outlet-to-compete-with-media/22370005/	Jan 26 19:23
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 26 19:24
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Jan 26 19:24
DaemonFC	You know that shit is about to go down when your Governor starts his own personal website to compete with the news.	Jan 26 19:24
DaemonFC	Maybe I need to accelerate my timetable to bail on Indiana, which is the meth capital of the world and a broken banana republic.	Jan 26 19:24
DaemonFC	You guys can enjoy El Jefe as many times as you want him.	Jan 26 19:25
cubexyz	a lot of windows users are checking out my linux notes	Jan 26 19:36
cubexyz	rather odd	Jan 26 19:38
cubexyz	most of them seem to be Windows NT 6.2	Jan 26 19:40
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 26 20:00
DaemonFC	1 min · Edited ·	Jan 26 20:00
DaemonFC	Welcome to the Republic of Penceistan, comrades!	Jan 26 20:00
DaemonFC	Penceistani industry best in world! We invent toffee and trouser press! wink emoticon	Jan 26 20:00
DaemonFC	Penceistani prostitutes cleanest in the region, except of course for Ohiostaaaaan... Dah dah dah dah dah dah dah!	Jan 26 20:00
DaemonFC	http://wane.com/2015/01/26/pence-to-launch-state-run-news-service-in-indiana/	Jan 26 20:00
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SilverSlimer	how are you guys doing	Jan 26 20:10
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 26 20:12
DaemonFC	Someone asked if Fox News wasn't already letting him do and say whatever he wanted.	Jan 26 20:12
DaemonFC	I replied:	Jan 26 20:12
DaemonFC	I could never tell if Fox News or the Wall Street Journal was being more kind to Governor Mike Pence. I guess I'd say the WSJ since they let him write an article all by himself. Now that he's going to run his own news site with state money that will publish his propaganda verbatim, day in, and day out, he can do as many as he wants without having to ask the even more Uber James Bond Villains for permission. Muahahahahahaa!!!!	Jan 26 20:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/Bg1HFlbiQv	Jan 26 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjtps	Jan 26 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/um05us5iSj	Jan 26 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 20:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjtpt	Jan 26 20:24
SilverSlimer	since this is the techrights.org official channel, I have to ask: other than Dr. Schestowitz, does anyone write for techrights?	Jan 26 20:24
DaemonFC	https://www.facebook.com/IndianaProgressives/posts/874017019307536?comment_id=874094959299742&offset=0&total_comments=2&notif_t=share_reply	Jan 26 20:41
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer Will this be passed before or after they spend tax money to fund Pence's state-owned news agency that sounds like something out of a former Soviet Republic?	Jan 26 20:41
DaemonFC	David Harding This won't go anywhere as long as the GOP controls this state and the GOP is contriolled by the right wingers, business and tea turds.	Jan 26 20:41
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer I wouldn't be so sure. Never put anything past them when it benefits them. You don't think that Pence's rag will be praising the Republicans in the State Duma? Errr. That's "General Assembly" in oldspeak.	Jan 26 20:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wireless-enabled i.MX6 SBC offers remote IoT	Jan 26 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	management http://t.co/Y8mncmZfC3	Jan 26 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjtv7	Jan 26 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Debian Forked: All for Devuan and Devuan for	Jan 26 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	All? http://t.co/96Lva5VQ3P	Jan 26 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 26 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jjtv8	Jan 26 20:50
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DaemonFC	http://wp.me/p4ySsJ-kpX	Jan 26 21:45
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 26 21:46
DaemonFC	3 mins · Edited ·	Jan 26 21:46
DaemonFC	Great news kids! Your parents can send you off for college packing an iPhone that runs more spyware than usual. Joy!	Jan 26 21:46
DaemonFC	A new app lets parents track their adult children through their crApple spyPhone to "make sure they're attending class".	Jan 26 21:46
DaemonFC	Here's an idea. Put the spyPhone in your back pocket and sit on it. Be free! FREE!!! glasses emoticon	Jan 26 21:46
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 26 23:12
DaemonFC	http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/bmv-to-outsource-license-plate-production	Jan 26 23:12
DaemonFC	Indiana license plates will no longer be made by Indiana prisoners. They'll be made by California prisoners instead.	Jan 26 23:12
DaemonFC	The current set up has the Indiana state government paying a private contractor to subcontract to another company to "employ" prisoners that are already imprisoned by the state of Indiana.	Jan 26 23:12
DaemonFC	Just some of those layers and layers of Republican efficiency we're always hearing so much about.	Jan 26 23:12
DaemonFC	I say we send Pence to prison and have him stamp some license plates.	Jan 26 23:12
DaemonFC	He deserves to be "ennobled" with a productive job while he pays his debt to society. And good god, have you seen the man!? He could stand a little physical exercise. Have him work off those mantitties. It's embarrassing to have him show up in a military costume that says "Commander in Chief" with that, ahem, bust size.	Jan 26 23:12
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DaemonFC	Facebook appears to be down.	Jan 27 01:16
cubexyz	ok, I need to point out the absurdity of fossforce.com running microsoft ads	Jan 27 01:32
cubexyz	it's probably becauase fossforce is knocking windows 10 but still :)	Jan 27 01:33
cubexyz	ok, maybe they don't care and ad money is money but... I think it's a bad idea	Jan 27 01:34
DaemonFC	Who cares?	Jan 27 01:35
DaemonFC	The money spends. :)	Jan 27 01:35
DaemonFC	As long as they don't go all SourceForge on us...	Jan 27 01:35
DaemonFC	:)	Jan 27 01:35
cubexyz	I think it's just careless to let that happen	Jan 27 01:35
cubexyz	you can block ads by domain name	Jan 27 01:36
cubexyz	not that I think fossforce is going to sell a lot of Surface Pro 3's, so no point running the ads	Jan 27 01:37
cubexyz	also the Surface Pro 1 and 2 were ranked dead last in repairability	Jan 27 01:40
cubexyz	just saying	Jan 27 01:40
cubexyz	"tons of adhesive and screws, opening the device risks shearing the display cables"	Jan 27 01:41
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/fossforce-microsoft-ad.png	Jan 27 01:45
DaemonFC	http://thenextweb.com/facebook/2015/01/27/facebook-instagram-right-now/	Jan 27 01:45
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 27 04:01
sebsebseb	MinceR: schestowitz good looks like I can see RIchard Stallman speak agian and also see John Sulivan speak. Karan Sander to possibly	Jan 27 04:02
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schestowitz	> old:	Jan 27 12:56
schestowitz	>	Jan 27 12:56
schestowitz	> http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/barrett-brown-faces-105-years-in-jail-20130905	Jan 27 12:56
schestowitz	>	Jan 27 12:56
schestowitz	> ==	Jan 27 12:56
schestowitz	>	Jan 27 12:56
schestowitz	> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/25/wikileaks-google-staff-emails-us-government	Jan 27 12:56
schestowitz	Google has a lot of my mail because many people us gmail	Jan 27 12:56
schestowitz	*use	Jan 27 12:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Opera 27 Stable Web Browser Released With Tab	Jan 27 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	Preview Back, Install In Ubuntu, Linux Mint And	Jan 27 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	Others http://t.co/mS6D43CvBX	Jan 27 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 14:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk1ig	Jan 27 14:06
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sebsebseb	hi	Jan 27 14:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Opera 27 Is the First Stable Version in 2015,	Jan 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	Tab Previews Are Back http://t.co/aNLkOewkPI	Jan 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) Proprietary though,	Jan 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	still...	Jan 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk1y1	Jan 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines China-Based Android Developer APUS Lands $100M	Jan 27 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	For New Services And Global Focus	Jan 27 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/I1y1P3gpXT (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk1y3	Jan 27 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition	Jan 27 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	portables with M3800 monster	Jan 27 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QqjHhg7g0v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk1y6	Jan 27 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Is A New Chromium-Based Web Browser For	Jan 27 15:12
TweetTuxMachines	Power Users http://t.co/o29MM1KPas	Jan 27 15:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.webupd8.org)	Jan 27 15:12
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk25t	Jan 27 15:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why screen lockers on X11 cannot be secure	Jan 27 15:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YYv5ZBklGy (error)	Jan 27 15:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk27c	Jan 27 15:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5.2 Is Beautiful and Featureful	Jan 27 15:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zJMUM5dx09 (dot.kde.org)	Jan 27 15:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk29m	Jan 27 15:24
MinceR	lol @ wayland ad	Jan 27 15:25
MinceR	wayland can't even capture or warp the pointer	Jan 27 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny $26 WiFi-ready IoT SBC runs OpenWRT Linux	Jan 27 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YOErxpjMe3 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2aa	Jan 27 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Why screen lockers on X11 cannot be secure	Jan 27 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZPtqRrkLmz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2ab	Jan 27 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5.2 Is Beautiful and Featureful	Jan 27 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Xs1aDOAlKb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 15:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2ae	Jan 27 15:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Grim Fandango Remastered Has Strangely High	Jan 27 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	System Requirements for Linux	Jan 27 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6oqQ5iQzMh (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 27 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2j6	Jan 27 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines China-Based Android Developer APUS Lands $100M	Jan 27 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	For New Services And Global Focus	Jan 27 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/hDb5OZCESH (techcrunch.com)	Jan 27 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2j7	Jan 27 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny $26 WiFi-ready IoT SBC runs OpenWRT Linux	Jan 27 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/wSJI0QjSQb (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 27 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2j8	Jan 27 15:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	portables with M3800 monster	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9siFYJcFLI (arstechnica.com)	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2l3	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines White House CTO calls for open source APIs,	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	visibility for women http://t.co/Awjce2SjkB	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2l7	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4MLinux Allinone Edition 11.0 Is a Complete OS	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/t1rlIdWDMM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2l8	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GHOST, a critical Linux security hole, is	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	revealed http://t.co/5yZHlSD4aQ	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 15:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2l9	Jan 27 15:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines High-end 'upstream' Linux laptop plans to ship	Jan 27 16:14
TweetTuxMachines	in April http://t.co/CMpl1o2iqi (m.phys.org)	Jan 27 16:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2rr	Jan 27 16:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android essentials: 13 apps I can't live	Jan 27 16:14
TweetTuxMachines	without http://t.co/3vGAx0L6Lc	Jan 27 16:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerworld.com)	Jan 27 16:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2rs	Jan 27 16:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Real-time enabled Sitara SoC shows up on a COM	Jan 27 16:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/M7FPPwH6MY (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 27 16:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2rv	Jan 27 16:14
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DaemonFC	http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/vivaldi-web-browser-linux-download-power-users	Jan 27 16:31
DaemonFC	https://vivaldi.com	Jan 27 16:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android continues to increase its market share	Jan 27 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	at others’ expenseby http://t.co/Bv041NUOa7	Jan 27 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.dailynewsegypt.com)	Jan 27 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2yp	Jan 27 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android essentials: 13 apps I can't live	Jan 27 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	without http://t.co/NucMhEeKBg	Jan 27 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2yr	Jan 27 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines High-end 'upstream' Linux laptop plans to ship	Jan 27 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	in April http://t.co/xguo4XmKYo	Jan 27 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 16:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk2ys	Jan 27 16:32
MinceR	https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/RzSZFYWn7sX	Jan 27 16:33
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5490300	Jan 27 17:09
schestowitz	"What happened to "we do not spy on Americans"? I had the idea they were exceptional."	Jan 27 17:09
schestowitz	"	Jan 27 17:09
schestowitz	Maybe the US eagle is not just bald but deaf too, I hear no freedom:	Jan 27 17:09
schestowitz	http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/23014512.jpg	Jan 27 17:09
schestowitz	"	Jan 27 17:09
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5485013	Jan 27 17:10
schestowitz	":) → spam dump yard"	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Real-time enabled Sitara SoC shows up on a COM	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vP4EfRRPoe (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk3ba	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android continues to increase its market share	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	at others’ expenseby http://t.co/fmEOwKT6Ue	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk3bd	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open-source development of Pirate Bay	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	replacement could make site immune to police	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	takedown http://t.co/8VkC03uv1y	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 17:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk3be	Jan 27 17:10
sebsebseb	schestowitz: I get to see RMS speak again soon and go for a intering dinner and so on to	Jan 27 17:24
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schestowitz	sebsebseb: fantastic, where?	Jan 27 18:20
schestowitz	FOSDEM?	Jan 27 18:20
schestowitz	and is her keynoting there?	Jan 27 18:21
sebsebseb	schestowitz: yeah Karen doing a key note on Saturday	Jan 27 18:21
sebsebseb	,but there's a meal with her and Bkuhm	Jan 27 18:21
sebsebseb	on FRiday :d	Jan 27 18:21
sebsebseb	after the RMS talk	Jan 27 18:21
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/oshwm/status/560213055296897024	Jan 27 18:21
sebsebseb	schestowitz: seem's that's going to be quit a big one	Jan 27 18:21
sebsebseb	and the one to go to	Jan 27 18:21
schestowitz	Maybe share among colleagues, based on Snowden's experience	Jan 27 18:22
sebsebseb	schestowitz: do you know about Jolla?	Jan 27 18:22
schestowitz	yes	Jan 27 18:22
sebsebseb	yeah I got one	Jan 27 18:22
sebsebseb	awesome :)	Jan 27 18:22
schestowitz	we love it here and want to use it	Jan 27 18:22
sebsebseb	Jolla pone	Jan 27 18:22
sebsebseb	oh?	Jan 27 18:22
schestowitz	is ti on sale here?	Jan 27 18:22
sebsebseb	schestowitz: oh and a guy from Jolla live nar me so got him to come along to the LUG that was good :)	Jan 27 18:22
sebsebseb	here as in, inside the UK no	Jan 27 18:23
sebsebseb	,but you can buy the phone directly from Finland	Jan 27 18:23
schestowitz	just finland	Jan 27 18:23
schestowitz	that's what I remembered	Jan 27 18:23
sebsebseb	yes but they ship globally	Jan 27 18:23
schestowitz	and they sold lots there	Jan 27 18:23
sebsebseb	I havne't decided Saturdya night yet	Jan 27 18:23
sebsebseb	Magiea will do something probably at the pizza place from lastyear	Jan 27 18:23
sebsebseb	,but	Jan 27 18:23
sebsebseb	there's a Jolla dinner going on to with like 30 or so people	Jan 27 18:23
sebsebseb	may go to that instead if can get into that still, but not sure	Jan 27 18:24
sebsebseb	schestowitz: not really that interested in Mageia anymore	Jan 27 18:24
sebsebseb	so many community issues and such uh	Jan 27 18:24
sebsebseb	I mean the actsal community side of runningg things etc	Jan 27 18:24
sebsebseb	wel that's how I feel anyway	Jan 27 18:24
sebsebseb	seems certain community contributiosn aren't really taken eriosuly enough as well and things like that to	Jan 27 18:25
sebsebseb	schestowitz: oh an so much for getting a Mageia stand at say OGG Camp	Jan 27 18:26
sebsebseb	I mean with a few volunteers	Jan 27 18:26
sebsebseb	it seems	Jan 27 18:26
sebsebseb	schestowitz: yeah Jolla is aweosme, an interesting thing for sure :)	Jan 27 18:26
*sebsebseb looks forward to getting his tablet in May as well :)		Jan 27 18:26
sebsebseb	Jolla tablet	Jan 27 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IT pros to move to open source software in 2015	Jan 27 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5HSZimXFvh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk42f	Jan 27 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Community Wants Homeworld Remastered	Jan 27 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/moaqFNy15b (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 27 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk42h	Jan 27 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	@REALMattRichie @Android essentials: 13 apps I can't live	Jan 27 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	without http://t.co/y19qgYSaWK	Jan 27 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org) \| via @tuxmachines	Jan 27 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk42j	Jan 27 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cyanogen aims to make Android a fully open	Jan 27 18:45
TweetTuxMachines	platform http://t.co/mkDkWtX6Zo	Jan 27 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.bizjournals.com)	Jan 27 18:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Game Apps Are Becoming As Profitable As	Jan 27 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	Those On The iPhone http://t.co/He6k7i37SE	Jan 27 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com)	Jan 27 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk442	Jan 27 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Presto TV turns on Android support	Jan 27 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KVpX6NUnNf (www.techradar.com)	Jan 27 18:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk443	Jan 27 18:46
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*TweetTuxMachines @GetAppeer favourited 'Android Game Apps Are Becoming As Profitable As...'		Jan 27 19:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 27/1/2015: Plasma 5.2, Dell Precision	Jan 27 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	With GNU/Linux http://t.co/JINSFUKfCI	Jan 27 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jan 27 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk4my	Jan 27 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mobie Is a Tablet That Dual-Boots Ubuntu 14.04	Jan 27 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	LTS and Windows 8.1 http://t.co/TALgVXEqbe	Jan 27 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk4n1	Jan 27 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/cW3CsWUwaa	Jan 27 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk4n3	Jan 27 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/DGXXxWutQE	Jan 27 19:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 19:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/ZI493b0OoR	Jan 27 23:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 23:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk6g9	Jan 27 23:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/Wu6aVP0U3k	Jan 27 23:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 27 23:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Stable Released, Install In	Jan 28 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu/Linux Mint http://t.co/lvpnAjVdfC	Jan 28 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk710	Jan 28 00:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition	Jan 28 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by portables with M3800 monster	Jan 28 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux http://t.co/QqjHhg7g0v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk72x	Jan 28 00:52
*TweetTuxMachines @speedytux favourited 'Dell updates Linux-powered Developer Edition portables with M3800...'		Jan 28 00:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vivaldi Is A New Chromium-Based Web Browser For	Jan 28 00:56
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Power Users http://t.co/o29MM1KPas	Jan 28 00:56
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux (www.webupd8.org)	Jan 28 00:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk73z	Jan 28 00:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plasma 5.2 Is Beautiful and Featureful	Jan 28 00:56
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by https://t.co/zJMUM5dx09 (dot.kde.org)	Jan 28 00:56
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux	Jan 28 00:56
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75	Jan 28 03:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Academic Essay Samples!!!	Jan 28 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qxP9dWn50Y (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 04:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The	Jan 28 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone http://t.co/n3EM1E1wiU	Jan 28 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8pg	Jan 28 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The iPhone \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 04:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones	Jan 28 04:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kI9gs7XxRJ (linuxgizmos.com)	Jan 28 04:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8rb	Jan 28 04:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones		Jan 28 04:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Star-Hopper for KStars https://t.co/LbWeITADvX	Jan 28 04:16
TweetTuxMachines	(thegreatercode.wordpress.com)	Jan 28 04:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8rc	Jan 28 04:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines AppStream 0.8 released! http://t.co/LD7eArV1XW	Jan 28 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.tenstral.net) "the cross-distribution	Jan 28 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	standard for software metadata"	Jan 28 04:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.tenstral.net \| AppStream 0.8 released! \| Ximions Blog		Jan 28 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8rd	Jan 28 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines What is a good command-line IRC client on Linux	Jan 28 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/A6KnW0C2CN (xmodulo.com)	Jan 28 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8y1	Jan 28 04:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The	Jan 28 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone http://t.co/xaQSYTYFfz	Jan 28 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	(uk.businessinsider.com)	Jan 28 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8y3	Jan 28 04:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com \| Android Phones Versus iPhone - Business Insider		Jan 28 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic	Jan 28 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20	Jan 28 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Hnwf7D5DDq (www.phoronix.com)	Jan 28 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk8y4	Jan 28 04:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20 - Phoronix		Jan 28 04:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The	Jan 28 04:47
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by iPhone http://t.co/n3EM1E1wiU	Jan 28 04:47
TweetTuxMachines	@voidquest44 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 04:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk91u	Jan 28 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 15 Reasons Android Phones Are Better Than The iPhone \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 04:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones	Jan 28 04:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OOtpc47hbq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 04:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk91x	Jan 28 04:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Embedded Linux Conference hijacked by drones \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 04:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.4 the beautiful	Jan 28 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/A65bZGnrOa (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9cr	Jan 28 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.4 the beautiful \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic	Jan 28 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20	Jan 28 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OKRmAIFGZo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9cs	Jan 28 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| NVIDIA Tegra DRM Driver Supports Atomic Mode-Setting In Linux 3.20 \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Citizens call on Dortmund to use free software	Jan 28 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YHAvGmJiaq (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9cu	Jan 28 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Citizens call on Dortmund to use free software \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 05:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch apps can run in windowed mode	Jan 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FNAp2UvBty (liliputing.com)	Jan 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9fy	Jan 28 05:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com \| Ubuntu Touch apps can run in windowed mode - Liliputing		Jan 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Square tries to make open source “welcoming and	Jan 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	inspiring” to women http://t.co/D3tFTS1y4R	Jan 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9fz	Jan 28 05:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Square tries to make open source “welcoming and inspiring” to women \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu Touch apps can run in windowed mode	Jan 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LRLlFSJgms (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 05:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9g0	Jan 28 05:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch apps can run in windowed mode \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 05:36
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Sosumi	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/youtube-declares-html5-video-ready-for-primetime-makes-it-default/	Jan 28 06:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| YouTube says HTML5 video ready for primetime, makes it default \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jk9or ]		Jan 28 06:06
Sosumi	yepi-ki-iai	Jan 28 06:07
schestowitz	great stuff, seen it...	Jan 28 06:07
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5494364	Jan 28 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Koch Brothers' Network Aims to Spend $889 Million on the 2016 Elections http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/koch-brothers-889-million-2016-elections #billgates spends $billion in 3 years just bribing media		Jan 28 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com \| The Koch Brothers' Network Aims to Spend $889 Million on the 2016 Elections \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/jk9ow ]		Jan 28 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or	Jan 28 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	Aesthetic http://t.co/ST13E7xFhi	Jan 28 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.datamation.com)	Jan 28 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jk9p2	Jan 28 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com \| Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or Aesthetic - Datamation		Jan 28 06:07
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or Aesthetic http://t.co/ST13E7xFhi'		Jan 28 06:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or	Jan 28 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	Aesthetic http://t.co/kPpijJ2I1U	Jan 28 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkapl	Jan 28 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Desktop Evolution: Minor, Invisible, or Aesthetic \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA's Latest Maxwell Line-Up Against AMD	Jan 28 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	With Catalyst On Linux http://t.co/UBOYya76Y8	Jan 28 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jan 28 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| NVIDIA's Latest Maxwell Line-Up Against AMD With Catalyst On Linux - Phoronix		Jan 28 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkapo	Jan 28 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines NVIDIA's Latest Maxwell Line-Up Against AMD	Jan 28 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	With Catalyst On Linux http://t.co/IN3rV0ek9S	Jan 28 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkapr	Jan 28 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| NVIDIA's Latest Maxwell Line-Up Against AMD With Catalyst On Linux \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice for Android coming soon	Jan 28 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PNcqrgIrX1 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkar4	Jan 28 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice for Android coming soon \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 reasons asynchronous communication is better	Jan 28 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	than synchronous communication in open source	Jan 28 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yjHywyXXYX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkar6	Jan 28 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 reasons asynchronous communication is better than synchronous communication in open source \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel New DLC ‘Lady	Jan 28 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	Hammerlock The Baroness Pack’ Lands On Linux	Jan 28 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JVXc6sL558 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkar7	Jan 28 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel New DLC ‘Lady Hammerlock The Baroness Pack’ Lands On Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 28 08:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 5 Best Android Games of January 2015	Jan 28 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Z5ItE0oxwb (heavy.com)	Jan 28 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkasa	Jan 28 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-heavy.com \| Top 5 Best Android Games of January 2015 \| Heavy.com		Jan 28 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Witcher 2 Has A New Beta For Linux, The	Jan 28 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	Improvements Are Staggering	Jan 28 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oTgPJVF1Uy (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkasb	Jan 28 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| The Witcher 2 Has A New Beta For Linux, The Improvements Are Staggering \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 28 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Scirra’s 'Construct' Game Creation Editor To	Jan 28 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	Support Linux With Construct 3	Jan 28 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2lBYHgFkEM (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkasc	Jan 28 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Scirra’s 'Construct' Game Creation Editor To Support Linux With Construct 3 \| GamingOnLinux		Jan 28 08:14
XFaCE	schestowitz: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/28/canada-cse-levitation-mass-surveillance	Jan 28 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-firstlook.org \| Canada Casts Global Surveillance Dragnet Over File Downloads - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/jkash ]		Jan 28 08:14
XFaCE	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cse-tracks-millions-of-downloads-daily-snowden-documents-1.2930120	Jan 28 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca \| CSE tracks millions of downloads daily: Snowden documents - Canada - CBC News [ http://ur1.ca/jkasj ]		Jan 28 08:15
cubexyz	XFaCE, good find	Jan 28 08:41
cubexyz	ugh, CBC and their stupid ads	Jan 28 08:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 14.10 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Gets Fix for	Jan 28 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	Unbound Vulnerability	Jan 28 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QYJcz6aYGn (linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkbgh	Jan 28 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 14.10 and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Gets Fix for Unbound Vulnerability - Softpedia		Jan 28 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines e-a-fantastic-looking-3d-adventure-game-shows-linux-progress.4886/	Jan 28 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkbgi	Jan 28 09:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Cradle, A Fantastic Looking 3D Adventure Game	Jan 28 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	Shows Linux Progress https://t.co/Sn44PkPkBl	Jan 28 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jan 28 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkbgj	Jan 28 09:28
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XFaCE	cubexyz: that's why there's the intercept link :)	Jan 28 10:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced	Jan 28 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	and Stable Version Available	Jan 28 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Km2uhGCwNX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd3z	Jan 28 11:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced and Stable Version Available \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker chief operator: Why the open source	Jan 28 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	container project is taking a new shape	Jan 28 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Fs9PR2BI35 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 11:30
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd44	Jan 28 11:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Reasons Your Company Should Open Source More	Jan 28 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	Code http://t.co/t2mv6qqnXy	Jan 28 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9a	Jan 28 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 5 Reasons Your Company Should Open Source More Code \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy	Jan 28 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	Driver for Users with Old Cards	Jan 28 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TgiaODpN3s (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9b	Jan 28 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy Driver for Users with Old Cards \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 11:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Xfce 0.9.0 Pre2 Arrives with Lots of	Jan 28 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes, Already Looks Promising	Jan 28 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nxKM8qnb1F (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9c	Jan 28 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Xfce 0.9.0 Pre2 Arrives with Lots of Fixes, Already Looks Promising \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download	Jan 28 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	Lots of Freeware http://t.co/IExUCQdZgM	Jan 28 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkd9d	Jan 28 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download Lots of Freeware \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 11:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35.0.1 Is Now Available for Ubuntu	Jan 28 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	Supported OSes http://t.co/ti53GlJjkB	Jan 28 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdn4	Jan 28 12:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Qualys Starts Self-Promotional FUD Campaign,	Jan 28 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	Naming a Bug That Was Already Fixed 2 Years Ago	Jan 28 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/n4bgUcMbMp (techrights.org)	Jan 28 12:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdn6	Jan 28 12:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Qualys Starts Self-Promotional FUD Campaign, Naming a Bug That Was Already Fixed 2 Years Ago and Distros Have Covered With Patches \| Techrights		Jan 28 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/wC8TwZiTqx	Jan 28 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdn7	Jan 28 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 12:28
XFaCE	MinceR: so filelockers shouldn't be visited either without a VPN it seems	Jan 28 12:35
XFaCE	VPN all the things!!	Jan 28 12:36
MinceR	:>	Jan 28 12:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced	Jan 28 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	and Stable Version Available	Jan 28 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/z08zIc8ssG (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdqe	Jan 28 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Kernel 3.18.4 Is Now the Most Advanced and Stable Version Available - Softpedia		Jan 28 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker chief operator: Why the open source	Jan 28 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	container project is taking a new shape	Jan 28 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gtLCnAKoDh (www.zdnet.com)	Jan 28 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdqf	Jan 28 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Docker chief operator: Why the open source container project is taking a new shape \| ZDNet		Jan 28 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy	Jan 28 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	Driver for Users with Old Cards	Jan 28 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/17x736IIKT (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdqg	Jan 28 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Good Guy NVIDIA Releases New Linux Legacy Driver for Users with Old Cards - Softpedia		Jan 28 12:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Xfce 0.9.0 Pre2 Arrives with Lots of	Jan 28 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	Fixes, Already Looks Promising	Jan 28 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iiKzS3aay7 (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdsw	Jan 28 12:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS	Jan 28 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	Taking Over the World of IT	Jan 28 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9cU5xWITWA (mrpogson.com)	Jan 28 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdsx	Jan 28 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS Taking Over the World of IT \| Robert Pogson		Jan 28 12:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Firefox 35.0.1 Is Now Available for Ubuntu	Jan 28 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	Supported OSes http://t.co/nGCdpLb1hG	Jan 28 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Firefox 35.0.1 Is Now Available for Ubuntu Supported OSes - Softpedia		Jan 28 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvl	Jan 28 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download	Jan 28 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	Lots of Freeware http://t.co/Ej0ZDQwkmB	Jan 28 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.howtogeek.com)	Jan 28 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com \| Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download Lots of Freeware		Jan 28 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvn	Jan 28 12:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "A large amount of vendor software runs on	Jan 28 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, so there’s plenty of systems	Jan 28 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	administration to do" http://t.co/x4Xx2L2ZN0	Jan 28 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	(opensource.com)	Jan 28 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| My open source career as a systems librarian \| Opensource.com		Jan 28 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvo	Jan 28 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/KT05WRXPr3	Jan 28 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvp	Jan 28 12:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Political parties favour openness to	Jan 28 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	reconstruct Greek productivity	Jan 28 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Zk1lGIyadK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdvs	Jan 28 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Political parties favour openness to reconstruct Greek productivity \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 12:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS	Jan 28 13:01
TweetTuxMachines	Taking Over the World of IT	Jan 28 13:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/b6FH8aAGIB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkdyw	Jan 28 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IoT, Revolution In Personal Computing, or FLOSS Taking Over the World of IT \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 13:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Development with ARM mbed on Linux	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sGIURywrsA (www.linux.com)	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke8y	Jan 28 13:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Humble Weekly Bundle: Je Suis Charlie Has Linux	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	Support and It Ends Tomorrow	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yJv4Muip9z (news.softpedia.com)	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke90	Jan 28 13:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Confessions of a systems librarian	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KmjApim21T (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke94	Jan 28 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Confessions of a systems librarian \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Development with ARM mbed on Linux	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PnsYHd2v61 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke98	Jan 28 13:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE 5 (Plasma 5.2.0) available for Slackware	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	-current http://t.co/hr7T5ESGLs	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke9c	Jan 28 13:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines This Huge Coffee Table Can Switch Between	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	Android and Windows, No Joke	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vrcsdvVq36 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke9d	Jan 28 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| This Huge Coffee Table Can Switch Between Android and Windows, No Joke \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 15 reasons Android can be better than the	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	iPhone	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/XYOtrJc19y (bgr.com)	Jan 28 13:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jke9k	Jan 28 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bgr.com \| iPhone vs. Android: What to buy – features comparisons \| BGR		Jan 28 13:31
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5494601	Jan 28 13:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Power outages http://www.washingtonsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Squirrels.jpg		Jan 28 13:41
schestowitz	"I wonder why there is no war on squirrels, maybe it would be not profitable."	Jan 28 13:41
schestowitz	But inhumane	Jan 28 13:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/CfJMkWraGg	Jan 28 14:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 14:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkf29	Jan 28 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 14:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Deploying tor relays http://t.co/GVKg9VlK5b	Jan 28 14:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 14:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkf2a	Jan 28 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Deploying tor relays \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 14:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Industrial box-PC takes Linux-on-Haswell to	Jan 28 16:09
TweetTuxMachines	extremes http://t.co/G7mgyQxtbT	Jan 28 16:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg0u	Jan 28 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Industrial box-PC takes Linux-on-Haswell to extremes \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Atomic Mode-Setting/Display Support Progresses	Jan 28 16:10
TweetTuxMachines	In Linux 3.20 http://t.co/QoLNzHdlCb	Jan 28 16:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 16:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg0w	Jan 28 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Atomic Mode-Setting/Display Support Progresses In Linux 3.20 \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 16:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download	Jan 28 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Lots of Freeware http://t.co/Ej0ZDQwkmB	Jan 28 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux (www.howtogeek.com)	Jan 28 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com \| Just Switch to Linux if You Want to Download Lots of Freeware		Jan 28 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg2j	Jan 28 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "A large amount of vendor software runs on	Jan 28 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Linux, so there’s plenty of systems	Jan 28 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	@speedytux administration to do" http://t.co/x4Xx2L2ZN0	Jan 28 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	(opensource.com)	Jan 28 16:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkg2k	Jan 28 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com \| My open source career as a systems librarian \| Opensource.com		Jan 28 16:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Kdenlive, the Linux video editor I want	Jan 28 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	to use http://t.co/KpzBKLD2xV	Jan 28 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jan 28 17:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jkgx1	Jan 28 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Review: Kdenlive, the Linux video editor I want to use \| Tux Machines		Jan 28 17:16
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5471266	Jan 28 17:33
schestowitz	"Okay, but that's a slightly different shade of the problem. Even under the BSD license, patent trolling is, ahem, an abuse."	Jan 28 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: ‘It just works’? Not so for too many #Apple users http://www.infoworld.com/article/2873356/applications/for-too-many-apple-users-it-doesnt-just-work.html		Jan 28 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.infoworld.com \| ‘It just works’? Not so for too many Apple users \| InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jidud ]		Jan 28 17:33
schestowitz	"	Jan 28 17:34
schestowitz	I must now revise my opinion of Jobs and Gates. Their greatest achievement was warping our definition of "theft" and "stealing". When ordinary people make a library of a books, songs, or movies, they society thinks of them as thieves and pirates. The same society does not bat an eye when companies appropriate basic methods, math or look and feel. Copies that enrich the community are considered theft. Restrictions which dominate and	Jan 28 17:34
schestowitz	impoverish society are considered beneficial protection. This is an amazing double think.	Jan 28 17:34
schestowitz	Jobs used patents, trademarks, copyright, and trade secret to keep people from helping themselves.	Jan 28 17:34
schestowitz	"	Jan 28 17:34
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sebsebseb	MinceR: thing	Jan 28 17:57
sebsebseb	MinceR: ping even	Jan 28 17:57
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5497850	Jan 28 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Industrial box-PC takes Linux-on-Haswell to extremes http://linuxgizmos.com/industrial-box-pc-takes-linux-on-haswell-to-extremes/		Jan 28 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com \| Industrial box-PC takes Linux-on-Haswell to extremes · LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/jkid0 ]		Jan 28 19:10
schestowitz	"+- $1000,- Nice box though! :)"	Jan 28 19:10
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560590244622635008 https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560590414038962176	Jan 28 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz Hmm, I didn't realize that when you said "culture" you meant to include organizations such as monastic orders.		Jan 28 19:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz It wouldn't surprise me to learn that boy monks in Tibet aren't allowed toy weapons. It would if they always obeyed, though.		Jan 28 19:10
schestowitz	Many toy guns are made in China but exported	Jan 28 19:11
sebsebseb	schestowitz: Did you see the Apple news?	Jan 28 19:13
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SteamersBaby/status/556828459197280256	Jan 28 19:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SteamersBaby: http://t.co/tjJ769Q6gk Pattens out of Greedy Gopher Guts masking as good ideas-check it out !! NO TTIP -Stop Distruction of Mother Earth !!		Jan 28 19:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org \| Richard Stallman on Lobbying \| Techrights		Jan 28 19:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/560591516461043713	Jan 28 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Open Source is better all-around; but still not "out of the woods" !!! Needs radically MUCH better LUCIDITY, Q.C. & s/w METHODS		Jan 28 19:15
sebsebseb	schestowitz: Richard Stallman yeah yeah, well tommoorwo as in FRiday	Jan 28 19:20
sebsebseb	I should be seeing him speak again	Jan 28 19:20
sebsebseb	,but in Brussels this time :)	Jan 28 19:20
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5498145	Jan 28 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Arab-American Group Asks 'American Sniper' Star And Director To Denounce Anti-Muslim Rhetoric http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/arab-american-group-calls-upon-clint-eastwood-and-bradley-cooper-denounce-anti-mulsim-rhe		Jan 28 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.opposingviews.com \| Arab-American Group Asks 'American Sniper' Star And Director To Denounce Anti-Muslim Rhetoric [ http://ur1.ca/jkiwt ]		Jan 28 19:55
schestowitz	"they learnd her lessons from'judsuess' propaganda movie :("	Jan 28 19:55
schestowitz	Directed at other groups	Jan 28 19:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5498077	Jan 28 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Basically, you can mark this day in the calendar as the official date for the death of Flash" http://news.softpedia.com/news/Youtube-Says-Goodbye-to-Flash-HTML5-Is-Now-Default-471426.shtml #adobe #youtube		Jan 28 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com \| YouTube Says Goodbye to Flash, HTML5 Is Now Default - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/jkix5 ]		Jan 28 19:56
schestowitz	"Been requesting the HTML5 player on youtube for ages."	Jan 28 19:56
schestowitz	It works well now	Jan 28 19:56
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5497898	Jan 28 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Review: Kdenlive, the Linux video editor I want to use http://www.networkworld.com/article/2876381/opensource-subnet/review-kdenlive-the-linux-video-editor-i-want-to-use.html #kde #kdenlive #gnu #linux		Jan 28 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.networkworld.com \| Review: Kdenlive, the Linux video editor I want to use [ http://ur1.ca/jkict ]		Jan 28 19:56
schestowitz	"We'll definitely have to give this a shot. We've (my son and I) been suffering through Premiere Pro since Final Cut Pro went totally iMovie with its release of FCPX."	Jan 28 19:56
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/560606225327325184	Jan 28 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz EXCELLENT news! ALEC is big part of the corruption of USA Gov. & Congress. These corps have quit-- http://t.co/J2qFJcies5		Jan 28 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.sourcewatch.org \| Corporations that Have Cut Ties to ALEC - SourceWatch		Jan 28 20:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/560607418405490688	Jan 28 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Cold Case: Murder of Karen Silkwood by spooks. NYT forced HOLLYWOOD to censor the historic film to hide PLUTONIUM diversion.		Jan 28 20:17
msb_	How did the New York Times force censorship? IIRC, the missing Pu was given to IsraHell to start its nuclear bomb program.	Jan 28 20:55
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cubexyz	I hear Stallman is using a thinkpad these days	Jan 28 21:49
cubexyz	probably an x60 or t60	Jan 28 21:49
cubexyz	ah, here it is... Gluglug X60 laptop	Jan 28 21:51
cubexyz	a refurbished Lenovo Thinkpad	Jan 28 21:52
sebsebseb	cubexyz: well on Friday I get to see him speak agian	Jan 28 22:06
cubexyz	sebsebseb, where is that?	Jan 28 22:21
cubexyz	msb_, I'm actually a bit surprised a nuclear war didn't happen	Jan 28 22:26
cubexyz	when you consider the possibility of an accident...	Jan 28 22:26
msb_	cubexyz: There are a lot of safety circuits in those bombs, and if all the shaped-charges in the implosion ones don't fire at the same time, the core doesn't get compressed enough to detonate. At least that's how it was in a movie. 8^)	Jan 28 22:29
cubexyz	I feel much safer now	Jan 28 22:29
cubexyz	sort of :)	Jan 28 22:29
msb_	cubexyz: I hope the Russki ones are designed as carefully.	Jan 28 22:30
msb_	But right now, the US is apparently trying to start some kind of war with Russia, by supporting that Nazi coup in Ukraine. Things could get, er, interesting.	Jan 28 22:31
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cubexyz	things are interesting enough already	Jan 28 22:32
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msb_	cubexyz: Ever hear about the polio vaccines causing cancer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8FCJ_VPyns	Jan 28 22:37
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msb_	Sad, especially when Vitamin C was found to cure polio 100%. But the knowledge was suppressed because the drug companies couldn't make a profit from it. http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/4-Origin_Of_Vitamin_C_Treatment_For_Polio-Klenner.html	Jan 28 22:39
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msb_	http://portside.org/2015-01-29/germans-are-shock-new-greek-leader-starts-bang	Jan 29 04:36
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msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rhM1i43NK8	Jan 29 04:37
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msb_	.	Jan 29 04:58
msb_	http://portside.org/2015-01-28/internet-crowd-not-cloud	Jan 29 04:58
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msb_	Distributed "Web" hosting via browsers and bit-torrent type organization.	Jan 29 04:59
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cubexyz	ha, got the usb reset to work	Jan 29 08:13
DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJoQOQHQ8oA	Jan 29 08:58
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cubexyz	the comments are priceless :)	Jan 29 09:05
msb_	Life is terrible here in central California. We don't get much snow, and now that we've eaten it all we're starving in our tents!	Jan 29 09:39
MinceR	maybe they'll let you into glorious north korea, though	Jan 29 09:39
MinceR	as a refugee	Jan 29 09:39
msb_	Yes, I so much would like all the benefits given by the Glorious Kim Jong Un!	Jan 29 09:41
MinceR	you could even eat tree bark	Jan 29 09:41
MinceR	which is a lot more delicious than birds.	Jan 29 09:41
msb_	The best are the food donations from North Korea!	Jan 29 09:41
MinceR	do you get those in california?	Jan 29 09:42
msb_	When we are lucky!	Jan 29 09:50
msb_	That movie The Interview about NK was pretty funny.	Jan 29 09:50
msb_	And it was even better to watch knowing that the glorious North Koreans stole it from the capitalist running dogs of Sony!	Jan 29 09:51
MinceR	:>	Jan 29 09:52
msb_	Sony deserved it for tying down the playstations so they couldn't be loaded with Socialist Linux!	Jan 29 09:54
MinceR	Red Flag Linux?	Jan 29 09:54
msb_	Glorious Socialist Linux!	Jan 29 09:54
msb_	Of course.	Jan 29 09:54
MinceR	or is that chinese?	Jan 29 09:54
msb_	Don't know. I just use the icons.	Jan 29 09:55
msb_	My local Chinese restaurant gets its fish from Vietnam. I sometimes test it with a geiger counter -- so far ok.	Jan 29 09:59
msb_	Every few months some people on the Net get hysterical about the radiation, but they show maps that are completely normal. I think they're confused.	Jan 29 10:02
msb_	Amazingly, K40 causes 4900 disintegrations per second inside every adult human body! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium-40	Jan 29 10:05
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MinceR	You are free to use any methods necessary but I want them alive - no disintegrations!	Jan 29 10:08
msb_	what, the potassium?	Jan 29 10:09
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MinceR	no :)	Jan 29 10:10
MinceR	http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/13951/why-does-vader-say-no-disintegration-to-boba-fett	Jan 29 10:10
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msb_	I actually eat KCl instead of NaCl to keep blood pressure lower. Maybe I glow in the dark!	Jan 29 10:10
msb_	Thus the Carbonite?	Jan 29 10:11
MinceR	i suppose so, though my memories are incomplete	Jan 29 10:12
msb_	Anyhow, Leia sure looked great in that bikini!	Jan 29 10:12
cubexyz	msb_, this guy is saying funvax is a hoax:	Jan 29 10:16
msb_	Somebody told me that too, but couldn't give proof.	Jan 29 10:17
msb_	The video looks authentic.	Jan 29 10:17
msb_	i.e., crappy	Jan 29 10:17
cubexyz	https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-funvax-pentagon-briefing-on-removing-the-god-gene.317/	Jan 29 10:17
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cubexyz	if it's a hoax, someone went to a lot of trouble	Jan 29 10:19
msb_	cubexyz: Thanks! The top and bottom brain slices are clearly the same -- matching fissures -- but the video says they're two different people, so it's lying.	Jan 29 10:25
cubexyz	ok, I figured it was a bit off	Jan 29 10:26
cubexyz	strange the things people do	Jan 29 10:26
msb_	the name "funvax" doesn't seem governmental either.	Jan 29 10:28
msb_	Weird if it drifted onto Israel and defanaticized the zionists!	Jan 29 10:30
cubexyz	I'm not a virulogist but that does seem a bit implausible :)	Jan 29 10:31
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cubexyz	er, virologist	Jan 29 10:32
msb_	I read years ago about govt attempts to make a virus/vaccine to inactivate the pleasure center of the brain so people wouldn't want heroin or cocaine.	Jan 29 10:32
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560851391628193793 https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560852032924692480	Jan 29 12:31
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560851391628193793 https://twitter.com/kragen/status/560852032924692480	Jan 29 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz How does that question even make sense? Hubbert's peak pertains to the derivative of logistic extraction.		Jan 29 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kragen: @schestowitz (And, given the last six years, it seems like the logistic function is maybe a lousy fit to oil extraction on a decade scale.)		Jan 29 12:32
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5497904	Jan 29 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: These Are the Hottest New Open Source Projects Right Now http://www.wired.com/2015/01/black-duck-rookies/ #freesw		Jan 29 12:38
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schestowitz	"I'd take a closer look at MaidSafe before Storj."	Jan 29 12:38
DaemonFC	MinceR, Got any bird rations, comrade?	Jan 29 13:13
DaemonFC	I'll trade you some delicious snow coffe.	Jan 29 13:13
DaemonFC	*coffee	Jan 29 13:13
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MinceR	DaemonFC`: got some from KFC yesterday :>	Jan 29 14:41
MinceR	but i ate it already	Jan 29 14:41
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jgay	schestowitz, did you see our latest annoucnement? http://www.fsf.org/news/libreboot-x200-laptop-now-fsf-certified-to-respect-your-freedom	Jan 29 17:38
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jgay	also if you see it appear on reddit or hacker news or wherever could you let me know so I can try to be engaging in a timely manner in those places	Jan 29 17:38
msb_		Jan 29 17:39
msb_	jgay	Jan 29 17:39
jgay	msb_, huh?	Jan 29 17:39
msb_	jgay: Can it decode and play DVDs?	Jan 29 17:39
msb_	I don't know how FSF feels about the DVD decryption library.	Jan 29 17:41
msb_	Hopefully it will run Devuan when that's ready.	Jan 29 17:42
jgay	msb_, I don't know, it ships with Trisquel GNU/Linux, you can check on their site probably	Jan 29 17:44
msb_	jgay: I hope RMS and FSF will come out against systemd eventually.	Jan 29 17:45
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schestowitz	jgay: yes, my wife put that at tux machines as soon as she saw that in her fsf rss feed	Jan 29 20:30
schestowitz	I will post that later in some social networks	Jan 29 20:30
schestowitz	I was at work	Jan 29 20:30
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jgay	schestowitz, cool!	Jan 29 20:52
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cubexyz	I see coreboot supports Lenovo X200 now	Jan 29 22:41
cubexyz	things are really improving now	Jan 29 22:44
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DaemonFC	<msb_> jgay: I hope RMS and FSF will come out against systemd eventually.	Jan 30 02:48
DaemonFC	Why? It's foss.	Jan 30 02:48
msb_	DaemonFC: It's evil. It violates Unix/Linux design principles of simplicity, modularity, human-readable data. It churns the code of apps. It gives one or two people too much control over Linux systems.	Jan 30 02:50
msb_	There is much more evil in the world than people realize. It is concealed by its perpetrators. 9-11 and other false-flag attacks. The financing and arming of Hitler by 75% by some major US businessmen.	Jan 30 02:53
msb_	The denial and suppression of the ability of Vitamin C to cure viral diseases. The terrible side effects of vaccines. The huge inequality of wealth.	Jan 30 02:55
msb_	There's no reason for systemd to be designed the way it is, with the negative effects that that design has. That suggests it is designed that way for an evil reason. Fascist govts (and Microsoft) want to control or destroy Linux.	Jan 30 02:57
msb_	All the evils I've listed here are real. They are done by conspiracy -- i.e. secretly -- but they are NOT theories. There is plenty of proof for them all (except the real purpose of systemd).	Jan 30 02:58
msb_	DaemonFC: Are you there?	Jan 30 02:59
DaemonFC	yeah	Jan 30 03:00
DaemonFC	I can't see how systemd harms things at all.	Jan 30 03:01
DaemonFC	If it did, someone could fork it. Apparently, nobody thinks it's worth doing that.	Jan 30 03:01
msb_	Read my website cosmicpenguin.com 911, Vitamin C, financing of Hitler by US businessmen are all well covered.	Jan 30 03:01
msb_	Devuan is forking Debian to get rid of it. Others are working on other means.	Jan 30 03:02
msb_	Bad design causes harm when things go wrong and have to be understood and repaired.	Jan 30 03:03
msb_	Bad design can be used to hide backdoors.	Jan 30 03:03
msb_	Good design is the main advantage of Unix/Linux.	Jan 30 03:04
MinceR	forking won't help, the design itself is broken	Jan 30 03:05
MinceR	that is, forking of systemd	Jan 30 03:05
MinceR	systemd is doing something that isn't worth doing	Jan 30 03:05
msb_	Right. Devuan is a fork of Debian that won't use systemd.	Jan 30 03:06
msb_	I have a lot of links to anti-systemd sites, but they are all in my browser bookmarks. I have to put them on my websites.	Jan 30 03:08
msb_	Also anti-vaccine links. I need to use some kind of	Jan 30 03:08
msb_	CMS so I can add stuff more easily. 8^)	Jan 30 03:09
msb_	Now it's just sed in bash scripts.	Jan 30 03:10
msb_	Someone in #trisquel told me it uses upstart, not systemd.	Jan 30 03:10
msb_	MinceR: From the little I know, the only worthwhile thing systemd does is deal with asynchronous events involving I/O gear, and there are much better ways of doing that.	Jan 30 03:11
msb_	The dozens of attacks by capitalist nations against socialist ones is another great evil.	Jan 30 03:14
msb_	Zionism and the attacks on Palestine. What all these have in common is robbing and controlling people. Psychopath behavior.	Jan 30 03:15
msb_	There's something going on in the US, being investigated by Janet Phelan and others.	Jan 30 03:16
msb_	Forced legal conservatorship of elderly people, and their subsequent robbery and murder. Corrupt judges and govt regulators are in on it.	Jan 30 03:17
msb_	http://janetphelan.com/	Jan 30 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-janetphelan.com \| Janet Phelan - Reporter at Large		Jan 30 03:17
msb_	vaccinated children having 120% more asthma, 317% more ADHD, 185% more neurological disorders and 146% more autism than those not vaccinated	Jan 30 03:23
msb_	A review at: http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-nation-Poisoning-Population-Shot-Time/dp/0984595422/	Jan 30 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com \| Vaccine-nation: Poisoning the Population, One Shot at a Time: Andreas Moritz: 9780984595426: Amazon.com: Books [ http://ur1.ca/jl5xu ]		Jan 30 03:23
msb_	It's to the advantage of evil govts and others to mess up the brains of people so they have difficulty detecting and dealing with the various evils, such as the enormous wealth inequality of capitalism.	Jan 30 03:25
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DaemonFC	Devuan will probably run out of steam and disappear.	Jan 30 04:06
DaemonFC	That's what tends to happen when not enough people find a fork useful.	Jan 30 04:06
msb_	DaemonFC: There are a lot of people who dislike systemd. Trinity desktop is still going strong because a lot of people don't like KDE4. I think there are some 50,000,000 Linux users. It only takes a few hundred to support a project, maybe a few thousand.	Jan 30 04:19
msb_	Hopefully the Devuan folks will follow the path of least effort -- utilize the Debian repos, change only what needs to be changed, etc. So they won't get overworked and exhausted.	Jan 30 04:24
msb_	DaemonFC: I think it's helpful to be optimistic. It leads to one saying and doing things that bring about a good future.	Jan 30 04:29
MinceR	msb_: trisquel uses whatever the ubuntu release it's based on uses	Jan 30 06:35
MinceR	> http://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/01/30/250bfbf5621b2f37.gif	Jan 30 06:35
MinceR	> Must be a catholic toy	Jan 30 06:35
msb_	MinceR: Yes, which I'm told (on #trisquel) is upstart.	Jan 30 06:36
msb_	MinceR: Why catholic?	Jan 30 06:37
MinceR	their priests are most famous for pedophilia and for protecting pedophiles from prosecution	Jan 30 06:39
msb_	Ah, yes.	Jan 30 06:39
MinceR	it's upstart now, but may not be in the next release.	Jan 30 06:39
msb_	Ick.	Jan 30 06:40
MinceR	also, geekings	Jan 30 06:40
msb_	MinceR: I hope the popular turn to socialism in Greece meets with your approval.	Jan 30 06:41
MinceR	i'm not sure what is meant by "turn to socialism" in this case	Jan 30 06:42
MinceR	so i'll just have to wait and see what happens.	Jan 30 06:42
msb_	They elected a socialist party with a good majority.	Jan 30 06:42
msb_	...Which is opposed to more "austerity" which means robbing the people to give money to the rich.	Jan 30 06:45
MinceR	that seems to be the point in greece	Jan 30 06:49
MinceR	that is, stopping "austerity"	Jan 30 06:49
msb_	yes. Capitalism is designed to have people work hard with little return, with the profits going to the rich.	Jan 30 06:50
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM	Jan 30 06:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Wealth Inequality in America - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/hb2ci ]		Jan 30 06:51
MinceR	like that takes a lot of design	Jan 30 06:52
msb_	It's taken hundreds of years.	Jan 30 06:53
msb_	A major factor is making working people believe that they aren't exploited slaves.	Jan 30 06:54
MinceR	actually in most human societies the powerful exploit the masses	Jan 30 06:55
MinceR	including most countries that call themselves "socialist", "communist", "people	Jan 30 06:55
MinceR	including most countries that call themselves "socialist", "communist", "people's republic", etc.	Jan 30 06:55
MinceR	i'm not sure if there's any human society that has no such exploitation	Jan 30 06:55
msb_	One way that's done is by convincing them that their ownership of private property -- their little home and car -- is equivalent to wealthy people owning factories and farms worth many millions of dollars.	Jan 30 06:55
MinceR	another way it's done is by convincing workers to ignore the dictator and the Inner Party and believe that everyone else is equal.	Jan 30 06:56
msb_	Truly democratic socialism, and social democracy, as in	Jan 30 06:56
msb_	scandinavia, do pretty well.	Jan 30 06:56
msb_	Socialism does not have to have a dictator. It can be democratic.	Jan 30 06:57
msb_	A major way that people are convinced to accept dictators is via commercial media. That's where the Internet and *Linux* can help a lot.	Jan 30 06:59
msb_	The Marxian idea of a "vanguard party" turned out to be a poor one, susceptible to psychopath takeover.	Jan 30 07:00
msb_	But the Soviet Union might have worked out a lot better if it hadn't been immediately attacked and invaded by armies of the capitalist nations which murdered millions.	Jan 30 07:08
msb_	That made the people willing to accept dictatorship and work hard to armor up instead of getting a better standard of living.	Jan 30 07:09
msb_	The same with the later invasion by the Nazis, which murdered I think 20 million Russians. That was 75% paid for by the wealthy of the U.	Jan 30 07:10
msb_	U.S.	Jan 30 07:10
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis	Jan 30 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Human Society That Works For Everyone		Jan 30 07:10
msb_	These attacks also motivated the leaders of the SU to have a line of "buffer states" around Russia. One of which was yours.	Jan 30 07:12
MinceR	somehow it's always someone else's fault	Jan 30 07:21
MinceR	never the russians'	Jan 30 07:21
MinceR	interesting	Jan 30 07:21
MinceR	then again, that's what cognitive dissonance does, i guess	Jan 30 07:22
msb_	It's not a matter of "fault". When people are struggling against murderous invaders, the first thing they attend to is survival -- staying alive.	Jan 30 07:28
msb_	If they had not built up a strong military, they would have all been slaughtered.	Jan 30 07:29
msb_	The wealthy capitalists wanted to destroy socialism because it would eliminate their huge profits.	Jan 30 07:30
DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/microsoft-to-invest-in-cyanogen-hopes-to-take-android-away-from-google/	Jan 30 07:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Microsoft to invest in Cyanogen, which hopes to take Android from Google \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jkxi8 ]		Jan 30 07:30
msb_	So they used military mass murder to do it.	Jan 30 07:30
DaemonFC	uh oh	Jan 30 07:30
msb_	Is Android private propitty, or can anyone use it without paying?	Jan 30 07:31
DaemonFC	Most of it is open source.	Jan 30 07:32
DaemonFC	Some Google apps and Google Play Services are proprietary.	Jan 30 07:32
msb_	So Microshit and Cyanogen can't seize Android and prevent people from using it?	Jan 30 07:34
MinceR	yes, people are always struggling against murderous invaders, never against murderous dictators	Jan 30 07:35
MinceR	murderous dictators are the best thing people can have and they know it!	Jan 30 07:35
msb_	cyanogen is very toxic, as it readily undergoes reduction to cyanide, which poisons the cytochrome c oxidase complex -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanogen	Jan 30 07:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Cyanogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia		Jan 30 07:35
msb_	MinceR: That doesn't make any sense.	Jan 30 07:36
MinceR	indeed what you're saying doesn't make any sense.	Jan 30 07:36
MinceR	most of the time, anyway.	Jan 30 07:36
msb_	How are "murderous dictators the best thing people can have" ?	Jan 30 07:37
msb_	And what did I say that doesn't make sense?	Jan 30 07:38
msb_	MinceR: Do you realize that personal attacks without any facts to back them up don't accomplish anything?	Jan 30 07:45
MinceR	do you realize that nonsense communist propaganda that is completely divorced from reality doesn't accomplish anything?	Jan 30 07:46
msb_	Sure. And when have I written any?	Jan 30 07:47
msb_	Please cite actual examples.	Jan 30 07:47
MinceR	several times, including the last hour	Jan 30 07:47
msb_	Please cite actual examples.	Jan 30 07:47
MinceR	and no, i'm not going to copypaste what you just said.	Jan 30 07:47
msb_	Why not? It's because your accusation is false.	Jan 30 07:48
msb_	MinceR: You said that I wrote "nonsense communist propaganda that is completely divorced from reality". Why won't you prove that statement by quoting the alleged propaganda that you say I wrote.	Jan 30 07:52
msb_	MinceR: The answer is that you can't, because I didn't write any.	Jan 30 07:52
MinceR	because i'm not going to contribute to your crapflooding of this channel with insane propaganda	Jan 30 07:52
msb_	That's a bullshit excuse for your lying.	Jan 30 07:53
DaemonFC	"Right To Work" has backfired in Indiana.	Jan 30 07:55
msb_	MinceR: It always comes down to the same thing: You're so angry about past Russian domination of Hungary and present Orban fascism that you are unable to think or write rationally and logically about economic and political systems.	Jan 30 07:55
DaemonFC	Union membership has gone from 9.3% of workers to 10.6% of workers since the law was passed in 2012.	Jan 30 07:56
msb_	DaemonFC: That's a good beginning!	Jan 30 07:56
MinceR	msb_: worshipping putler because he comes from a regime that had some good-sounding slogans (which they ignored, of course) is not "rational" or "logical", it's idiotic.	Jan 30 07:57
MinceR	(good-sounding to you, that is.)	Jan 30 07:57
DaemonFC	msb_, I'm glad to see it rising again after decades of decline.	Jan 30 07:58
DaemonFC	Hopefully, the trend continues and bids wages back up.	Jan 30 07:58
msb_	MinceR: I have never worshipped Putin, who should not be called "putler" because he is not a fascist. I've said that the BRICS nations are opposing US fascist domination of the planet.	Jan 30 07:58
MinceR	yes, you've said a lot of things that have nothing to do with reality	Jan 30 07:59
MinceR	including that one	Jan 30 07:59
msb_	MinceR: Would you read articles about the BRICS nations opposing US fascist domination of the planet if I showed you some?	Jan 30 08:00
DaemonFC	Russia is going to be in some real trouble when their dollar reserves finally run out.	Jan 30 08:00
DaemonFC	They need dollars to bail out their corporations and banks.	Jan 30 08:00
DaemonFC	Eventually they'll have to bail the government itself out, and the only thing that will do that will be creating more rubles, which will intensify inflation.	Jan 30 08:01
msb_	DaemonFC: Well, they have a lot of oil, gas, and gold, and can sell it to the other BRICS nations.	Jan 30 08:01
MinceR	msb_: go bother (and highlight) someone else with your fascist propaganda.	Jan 30 08:01
MinceR	DaemonFC: well, they shouldn't have started a pointless war while their economy stood on so few legs.	Jan 30 08:02
DaemonFC	With oil below $60 a barrel, that sector can't continue to subsidize everything else.	Jan 30 08:02
MinceR	they should have considered themselves lucky for getting away with a lot less than nazi germany.	Jan 30 08:02
DaemonFC	Russia doesn't have an economy so much as they have oil and natural gas.	Jan 30 08:02
MinceR	indeed	Jan 30 08:02
msb_	Russia didn't start this war. The US and EU did, by backing a Nazi takeover of Ukraine.	Jan 30 08:03
DaemonFC	Russia launched an unprovoked attack and invasion.	Jan 30 08:03
MinceR	also, putler should have looked for a better way to justify his rule than pointless conquest adventures.	Jan 30 08:03
DaemonFC	Just like when they seized part of Georgia.	Jan 30 08:03
MinceR	indeed.	Jan 30 08:03
msb_	You've forgotten the Maidan coup?	Jan 30 08:04
MinceR	for example, he could have instead worked to drag russia into the 21th century.	Jan 30 08:04
msb_	http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca \| The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine \| Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ]		Jan 30 08:05
DaemonFC	I'm perfectly happy to sit back and watch Russia's economy fall apart. They deserve it.	Jan 30 08:07
MinceR	same here	Jan 30 08:07
msb_	DaemonFC: Why?	Jan 30 08:07
DaemonFC	I hope that the oil and gas prices stay low long enough to run Russia out of foreign currency reserves. Then things will get very interesting.	Jan 30 08:07
MinceR	i just hope they don't invite the russian army into hungary before that happens	Jan 30 08:07
MinceR	or into poland	Jan 30 08:08
msb_	Do you want to see the US murder more millions of people as it did in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya?	Jan 30 08:08
msb_	Did either of you read that article whose url I just posted?	Jan 30 08:09
DaemonFC	MinceR, Within about 6-9 months, Russia will exhaust their entire supply of US dollars.	Jan 30 08:10
MinceR	DaemonFC: that would be nice	Jan 30 08:10
msb_	Do you want the US to invade Russia and start a nuclear war?	Jan 30 08:13
MinceR	hopefully that will not be necessary	Jan 30 08:13
MinceR	also, russia is far more likely to start a nuclear war	Jan 30 08:13
DaemonFC	The United States is unlikely to start a nuclear war.	Jan 30 08:14
msb_	http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 08:14
DaemonFC	It's not an unstable country with an economy that is falling apart.	Jan 30 08:14
cubexyz	unix v6 lives on... it's been ported to phones in China	Jan 30 08:28
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DaemonFC	MinceR, I grabbed the wrong kind of soap at the store.	Jan 30 08:59
DaemonFC	Now, every time I take a shower, I smell like flowers. :/	Jan 30 08:59
DaemonFC	I wonder if they could have possibly made the scent any stronger. It smells like bad perfume.	Jan 30 09:00
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MinceR	DaemonFC: lol	Jan 30 09:27
MinceR	doesn't sound like an issue, if it's just flowers	Jan 30 09:27
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MinceR	then again, i take showers with shower gel, not soap :>	Jan 30 09:28
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DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Day_in_the_Strife	Jan 30 10:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| A Day in the Strife - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jl9od ]		Jan 30 10:12
DaemonFC	I liked that episode. The twist ending was good.	Jan 30 10:12
DaemonFC	Turns out that the probe was designed to explode if you replied to it with the correct answers to wipe out any civilization that was advanced enough to threaten the builders of the probe.	Jan 30 10:13
MinceR	:)	Jan 30 10:13
DaemonFC	So they wait until it's leaving and relay the answers through a maintenance bot that's far enough away from the station so that it will explode and not threaten anyone else.	Jan 30 10:16
*DaemonFC remembers almost all of these and hasn't seen them in 20 years.		Jan 30 10:16
DaemonFC	http://wane.com/2015/01/30/report-ranks-top-10-deadliest-vehicles/	Jan 30 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wane.com \| Report ranks top 10 deadliest vehicles \| WANE [ http://ur1.ca/jlb0d ]		Jan 30 12:11
DaemonFC	I commented.	Jan 30 12:11
DaemonFC	"I would have thought that more GM vehicles would be on this list since I've never owned a GM vehicle that worked right. When I owned a 1995 Corsica, it had the ignition switch problem. I paid to have the ignition switch replaced out of my own pocket back in 2004 after it shut itself off on me several times, both while I was on highways/freeways, or just trying to get to the grocery store. Truly horrible cars. I'm a proud Ford owner now. GM	Jan 30 12:11
DaemonFC	can keep their garbage. The best place to park a GM car is at the crushers. I could have just as easily been another person who had their Chevy turn itself off who left the scene of the accident in a body bag."	Jan 30 12:11
MinceR	http://conal.net/blog/posts/the-c-language-is-purely-functional	Jan 30 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-conal.net \| Conal Elliott » Blog Archive » The C language is purely functional [ http://ur1.ca/jlb36 ]		Jan 30 12:18
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jan 30 12:20
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Jan 30 12:20
DaemonFC	WANE ran a story about negligent parents who don't get their kids vaccinated and about half the people who commented are those triple damned anti-vaxxer idiots.	Jan 30 12:20
DaemonFC	I don't have anything to be afraid of because I got my vaccines. I got the MMR in 1996.	Jan 30 12:20
DaemonFC	I wonder when there will finally be an outbreak of Rubella. It swells the testicles and leaves the male survivors unable to reproduce.	Jan 30 12:20
DaemonFC	Parents who don't vaccinate their children are Darwinian Evolution in action.	Jan 30 12:20
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msb_	DaemonFC: The "triple damned anti-vaxxer idiots" turn out to be right. MMR does cause autism.	Jan 30 14:23
MinceR	according to the anti-vaxxer idiots	Jan 30 14:23
MinceR	and nobody else.	Jan 30 14:23
MinceR	"oh noes, there's a mercury atom in that molecule! the sky is falling!"	Jan 30 14:24
MinceR	chemistry does not work that way.	Jan 30 14:24
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DaemonFC	MinceR, You forgot "triple damned".	Jan 30 14:25
DaemonFC	That's an important part.	Jan 30 14:25
MinceR	damnation is not that much of a deal for me	Jan 30 14:25
msb_	DaemonFC: MinceR: http://www.naturalnews.com/046614_cdc_whistleblower_vaccine_cover-up_criminal_investigation.html	Jan 30 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.naturalnews.com \| Natural News EXCLUSIVE: Bombshell email from CDC whistleblower reveals criminality of vaccine cover-up as far back as 2002 - NaturalNews.com [ http://ur1.ca/jlcgn ]		Jan 30 14:26
msb_	http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/27/health/irpt-cdc-autism-vaccine-study/	Jan 30 14:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnn.com \| Journal questions validity of autism and vaccine study - CNN.com [ http://ur1.ca/jlch1 ]		Jan 30 14:27
DaemonFC	I have all of the vaccines that CDC recommends.	Jan 30 14:28
DaemonFC	I'm due for a tetanus booster. I should schedule that.	Jan 30 14:29
msb_	"CDC's own data revealing a 340% increased risk of autism in African-American children following the MMR vaccine"	Jan 30 14:29
DaemonFC	Richard Stallman commented on this form of scare tactic the other day.	Jan 30 14:29
DaemonFC	When he was linking to an article debunking the connection between birth control pills and cancer.	Jan 30 14:30
MinceR	anti-vaxxer idiotism has already caused outbreaks of long-mostly-gone diseases recently	Jan 30 14:30
DaemonFC	You can double a minuscule risk and have it still be a minuscule risk, if the statistics are even correct at all to begin with.	Jan 30 14:30
DaemonFC	And putting yourself at risk for measles, mumps, and rubella is worse than the potential risk from getting the MMR.	Jan 30 14:31
msb_	It's long been known that both the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines contained oncogenic monkey viruses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8FCJ_VPyns	Jan 30 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| The Exploding Autoimmune Epidemic - Dr. Tent - It's Not Autoimmune, you have Viruses - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jkkz1 ]		Jan 30 14:31
msb_	These caused many millions of cancers.	Jan 30 14:31
DaemonFC	Measles, mumps, and rubella are highly contagious and can cause death or severe and permanent injury.	Jan 30 14:31
DaemonFC	I'd rather take the 1 in a million chance of having a negative reaction to a vaccine.	Jan 30 14:32
msb_	Vitamin C instantly cures measles.	Jan 30 14:32
DaemonFC	Oh fucking bullshit.	Jan 30 14:32
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine#Autism_claims	Jan 30 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| MMR vaccine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jlcis ]		Jan 30 14:32
msb_	Read the article I just posted.	Jan 30 14:32
DaemonFC	MinceR, The very very small risk of an adverse reaction to a vaccine has mostly to do with egg allergies.	Jan 30 14:33
MinceR	http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-vaccination_movement#Thiomersal	Jan 30 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rationalwiki.org \| Anti-vaccination movement - RationalWiki [ http://ur1.ca/jlcj0 ]		Jan 30 14:33
DaemonFC	The flu shots used at Walgreens have no thiomersal in them anyway.	Jan 30 14:34
DaemonFC	How can you be harmed by something that is not in the injection to begin with?	Jan 30 14:34
msb_	Vitamin C cured all the cases of polio that Dr Klenner used it on.	Jan 30 14:34
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/4-Origin_Of_Vitamin_C_Treatment_For_Polio-Klenner.html	Jan 30 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| 4 - Origin Of Vitamin C Treatment For Polio - Klenner [ http://ur1.ca/jkkzs ]		Jan 30 14:34
MinceR	so we should just take Klenner's word for it?	Jan 30 14:35
DaemonFC	Taking a bunch of vitamin C only results in two things.	Jan 30 14:35
DaemonFC	Money wasted and diarrhea.	Jan 30 14:35
msb_	But info about his work was censored from medical media.	Jan 30 14:35
DaemonFC	If you're already sick, giving yourself diarrhea is probably not going to help.	Jan 30 14:35
msb_	All those people didn't have to die from cancer from SV40 from polio vaccines.	Jan 30 14:36
MinceR	http://youtu.be/yJD1Iwy5lUY?t=45s	Jan 30 14:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| If Google Was A Guy (Part 3) - YouTube		Jan 30 14:37
msb_	Here's how Vitamin C works against all viral infections it's been used on: http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/2-How_Vitamin_C_Works-Cathcart-with_summary.html	Jan 30 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| 2 - How Vitamin C Works - Cathcart - with summary [ http://ur1.ca/hc247 ]		Jan 30 14:38
MinceR	and the reason none of this makes into peer-reviewed papers is because of the conspiracy, right? :>	Jan 30 14:38
msb_	Drug companies can't make any money by selling C. It's not patentable.	Jan 30 14:40
MinceR	i wonder why drug companies sell vitamin C, then	Jan 30 14:41
MinceR	if not for the money	Jan 30 14:41
msb_	Links to more articles on Vitamin C at bottom of this page: http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/	Jan 30 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Codex Alimentarius, Vitamin C, and Viral Pandemics		Jan 30 14:42
msb_	Vaccines make them far more money.	Jan 30 14:43
MinceR	so, "far less money" is "no money", now?	Jan 30 14:43
MinceR	making generics must be another hobby for them...	Jan 30 14:44
msb_	Also vaccines make many sick for life with chronic diseases. That's a real jackpot for big pharma.	Jan 30 14:44
msb_	If vaccines are so effective, why are morons like you so angry with those who don't get vaccinated? You're protected, right?	Jan 30 14:47
msb_	I say "morons" because you never read the info I post.	Jan 30 14:47
msb_	So you never learn anything.	Jan 30 14:48
msb_	All you know is what the govt and corporate media tell you.	Jan 30 14:48
msb_	Same as with Ukraine.	Jan 30 14:48
MinceR	they might not be 100	Jan 30 14:50
MinceR	% effective	Jan 30 14:50
MinceR	you moron.	Jan 30 14:50
MinceR	all you believe to know is what nutcases without a clue tell you	Jan 30 14:50
MinceR	you're incapable of critical thinking.	Jan 30 14:50
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnxAsrAK2hw	Jan 30 14:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Shots In The Dark: Silence on Vaccine - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jlcqc ]		Jan 30 14:51
msb_	The first step in critical thinking is to realize that what you currently believe may not be accurate.	Jan 30 14:52
msb_	The second step is to access information that disagrees with what you currently believe, and check and see whether it may be correct.	Jan 30 14:53
MinceR	so, when will you realize that?	Jan 30 14:53
MinceR	also, what turned medical journals into "govt and corporate media"?	Jan 30 14:54
msb_	Calling people whose beliefs differ from your own "nutcases", and refusing to access the info they present, guarantees that if you've been misinformed you will never learn the truth.	Jan 30 14:55
msb_	Medical journals get their money from drug company advertisements.	Jan 30 14:55
MinceR	as opposed to calling people whose beliefs differ from your own "morons", "fascists", etc. because...?	Jan 30 14:55
MinceR	iirc you started the name calling, so you don't get to complain about it	Jan 30 14:56
msb_	You have never learned the meanings of "fascist" and "socialist", and it looks like you never will.	Jan 30 14:56
MinceR	looks more like you never have	Jan 30 14:57
msb_	I said "moron" because you never read the info that differs from your beliefs. I was wrong to do that. I should have said "intentional ignoramus" instead.	Jan 30 14:57
MinceR	since a while ago pretended that "socialism" can be democratic, but nowadays you're propping up putin as some sort of socialist ideal	Jan 30 14:57
MinceR	if you believe you're the only one around with access to thesauri, you're (again) mistaken.	Jan 30 14:58
msb_	MinceR: You are lying as usual. I have never said that Putin is ideal.	Jan 30 14:58
MinceR	you have reading comprehension issues	Jan 30 14:59
msb_	But he is opposing the US fascists who have slaughtered millions and destroyed several nations since 2001.	Jan 30 14:59
MinceR	so, if 3 groups of fascists oppose each other, does that make your brain explode?	Jan 30 14:59
MinceR	are you incapable of recognizing that not all conflict is Good vs. Evil?	Jan 30 15:00
msb_	MinceR: You equate fascism and socialism, which guarantees that you won't be able to understand what's going on in the world.	Jan 30 15:00
MinceR	yes, different symbols and slogan make fascism all different	Jan 30 15:00
msb_	The use of the word "fascism" to mean "authoritarianism" makes understanding impossible.	Jan 30 15:01
MinceR	no, it's reasonably common	Jan 30 15:01
MinceR	good thing changing the meaning of "socialism", "communism" and related words every second doesn't make understanding difficult at all	Jan 30 15:01
msb_	Yes it is, and the resulting inability to understand is common because of that.	Jan 30 15:01
msb_	I don't change those meanings.	Jan 30 15:02
MinceR	the resulting inability to understand what? that putin's dictatorship is preferable to western democracy?	Jan 30 15:02
MinceR	you did change those meanings.	Jan 30 15:02
msb_	How?	Jan 30 15:02
MinceR	or you're utterly confused about them.	Jan 30 15:02
MinceR	i've already explained.	Jan 30 15:02
msb_	Give quotes from me.	Jan 30 15:02
MinceR	socialist ideals vs. the practice of USSR and putin's russia.	Jan 30 15:03
msb_	USSR employed authoritarian socialism.	Jan 30 15:03
msb_	Nicaragua uses democratic socialism.	Jan 30 15:04
msb_	There is little actual democracy in the US, because the wealthy control both parties, and two parties is all we have.	Jan 30 15:05
MinceR	no, it's not all you have	Jan 30 15:05
MinceR	it's all you're willing to vote for	Jan 30 15:05
MinceR	there's a difference.	Jan 30 15:05
MinceR	and it's connected to your earlier idea	Jan 30 15:05
msb_	It's all the corporate media talk about, so nobody votes for the others.	Jan 30 15:06
MinceR	most people consider one party to be the epitome of good and they deduce this from the other being evil.	Jan 30 15:06
msb_	And since the elections are winner-take-all instead of parliamentary, voting for others, e.g., socialists, doesn't bring any of them into govt.	Jan 30 15:06
MinceR	oh, and from them being opposed to each other.	Jan 30 15:06
MinceR	voting for others would show in the statistics, reinforcing the value of voting for them	Jan 30 15:07
msb_	Yes, you're right about that.	Jan 30 15:07
MinceR	and as you said, the two big parties don't differ from each other that much	Jan 30 15:07
msb_	Yes.	Jan 30 15:07
msb_	They are both basically fascist.	Jan 30 15:07
msb_	Neither offers worker ownership.	Jan 30 15:08
MinceR	i wouldn't want to own workers anyway. :>	Jan 30 15:08
msb_	Neither offers worker ownership of factories, farms, etc.	Jan 30 15:09
MinceR	neither prevents it either	Jan 30 15:10
msb_	The result is this enormous inequality of wealth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM	Jan 30 15:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| Wealth Inequality in America - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/hb2ci ]		Jan 30 15:10
msb_	The total censorship of socialism and social democracy from US corporate media results in few people knowing about them. That does effectively prevent it. It's a form of mind-control.	Jan 30 15:11
msb_	Most people in the US think that the view of the world given them by the corporate (wealthy-controlled) media is the way reality really is.	Jan 30 15:13
msb_	But it's not.	Jan 30 15:13
msb_	That view is like "The Matrix" in the movie. Total illusion.	Jan 30 15:14
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality	Jan 30 15:14
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MinceR	the USA is not the only country with significant wealth inequality	Jan 30 15:14
msb_	Of course not.	Jan 30 15:14
msb_	Every capitalist country will have that.	Jan 30 15:15
MinceR	in fact, for the socialist paradise you're painting Nicaragua as, it has a higher Gini as Japan, Poland or Canada	Jan 30 15:15
msb_	Gini is deceptive. You have to look at a histogram of wealth.	Jan 30 15:16
MinceR	(and so does Venezuela)	Jan 30 15:16
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM	Jan 30 15:19
msb_	The enormous amount of wealth owned by the richest 1% in the US will falsely increase the per-capita wealth figure.	Jan 30 15:20
msb_	Per-capita wealth is total wealth divided by total population size.	Jan 30 15:21
msb_	But the histogram -- see the video I just posted -- show that the great majority of people have little wealth. It's almost all concentrated with the richest.	Jan 30 15:22
msb_	Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa, because Qadaffi share the oil revenues with the people. That's why the US murdered him and destroyed that country.	Jan 30 15:24
msb_	*shared	Jan 30 15:24
MinceR	this video has no histogram of wealth about any supposed socialist paradises you mentioned	Jan 30 15:24
MinceR	it does say, however, that 92% of people want a more equal distribution of wealth	Jan 30 15:25
MinceR	maybe someone should build a campaign on that, then	Jan 30 15:25
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM shows a histogram of wealth in the US.	Jan 30 15:25
MinceR	ooh, now qadaffi is a saint too	Jan 30 15:25
MinceR	this is getting better and better.	Jan 30 15:25
MinceR	i can hardly wait for you to canonicalize Saint Kim Jong Un.	Jan 30 15:26
msb_	He was a good guy who used the oil income to benefit the people.	Jan 30 15:26
MinceR	yes it does, but shows nothing to compare it to.	Jan 30 15:26
msb_	MinceR: You are constantly using straw-man lies.	Jan 30 15:26
MinceR	i wonder if you would believe that if you lived in one of those dictatorships you keep advertising	Jan 30 15:27
MinceR	you should contemplate the relative amount of wealth controlled by the dictator and their close associates in such a country	Jan 30 15:28
msb_	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek	Jan 30 15:28
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MinceR	here's a hint: they own the country.	Jan 30 15:28
msb_	So you claim. But Libya had the highest standard of living of any African nation.	Jan 30 15:29
msb_	Until the US destroyed it with a military invasion and mass murder.	Jan 30 15:30
MinceR	so you claim	Jan 30 15:31
msb_	Watch that video. The one you call "the dictator" rides through Tripoli in an open car without protection.	Jan 30 15:32
MinceR	also, Gini is exactly about the shape of the histogram you're talking about	Jan 30 15:32
msb_	It's a number between 0 and 1.	Jan 30 15:32
MinceR	so?	Jan 30 15:32
MinceR	(actually it isn't but never mind)	Jan 30 15:32
MinceR	also, they loved gaddafi so much they overturned him in a revolution	Jan 30 15:33
msb_	So it can't possibly accurately represent the enormous wealthy inequality of, e.g., 1% owning 99% of the wealth, and 99% of the people collectively owning only 1%.	Jan 30 15:33
MinceR	i see, your maths education is also sorely lacking	Jan 30 15:34
msb_	The US finds some murderous fascist party and arms and finances it, thus creating an anti-human "revolution".	Jan 30 15:34
msb_	"your maths education is also sorely lacking" -- in what way?	Jan 30 15:35
MinceR	there are the same amount of real numbers between 0 and 1 as on the whole number line	Jan 30 15:35
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinality_of_the_continuum	Jan 30 15:35
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msb_	The point is that a Gini number between 0 and 1 doesn't psychologically get the point across to people that the wealthiest 1% owns 99% of everything.	Jan 30 15:36
MinceR	it doesn't need to	Jan 30 15:36
MinceR	higher Gini means higher inequality.	Jan 30 15:36
MinceR	a Gini of 1 means 1 person owns 100% of the wealth and the others own 0	Jan 30 15:37
msb_	Cardinality of the continuum is irrelevant to people's impression of inequality.,	Jan 30 15:37
MinceR	and it can be greater than one if some people have negative wealth	Jan 30 15:37
MinceR	but this is very unlikely	Jan 30 15:37
MinceR	so, people's impressions are more important than the truth, now?	Jan 30 15:38
msb_	when people see a Gini number from 0 to 1 that means much less to them than a wealth inequality of 1 vs. 100.	Jan 30 15:38
MinceR	you do realize that if you multiply the Gini by 100, you get a percentage, right?	Jan 30 15:40
msb_	Both the Gini number and the histogram express the truth, but the Gini number doesn't make people understand the real effect of the inequality like the histogram or the ratio of 1 to 100 does.	Jan 30 15:40
MinceR	(or something that works very much like a percentage, anyway)	Jan 30 15:40
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msb_	Here's the definition of the Gini number: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient#General_case	Jan 30 15:42
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MinceR	i've already seen it.	Jan 30 15:42
msb_	For it to be meaningful to people they have to understand integrals or summations, and apply that to the small difference between 0 and 1 to extrapolate that to the actual ratio of the wealth of rich vs everyone else.	Jan 30 15:43
msb_	Most people don't know enough math to do that.	Jan 30 15:43
MinceR	no they don't	Jan 30 15:44
msb_	Whereas the ratio of 100 to 1 immediately tells the story.	Jan 30 15:44
MinceR	it's enough to understand the histogram (lorenz curve) and ratio between areas	Jan 30 15:44
MinceR	it _is_ a ratio	Jan 30 15:44
MinceR	why don't you read what you linked?	Jan 30 15:44
MinceR	also, note that pathologically disproportionate distributions of wealth may mean that even the "1%" won't seem quite so wealthy, as poor people would be averaged with the rich ones (in that case, being far less numerous than 1%, of course)	Jan 30 15:46
msb_	The Lorenz curve is also deceptive, because the vertical coordinate is cumulative wealth instead of wealth per percentile.	Jan 30 15:46
msb_	Only the histogram (or graph) of wealth per percentile shows an accurate and informative view of the situation.	Jan 30 15:47
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MinceR	that's actually irrelevant as far as the shape of the curve is concerned	Jan 30 15:48
MinceR	wait, no	Jan 30 15:48
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MinceR	regardless, comparisons of Gini still order countries correctly in terms of inequality	Jan 30 15:49
msb_	Because the area and height of the bar in each percentile is proportional to the wealth per person in that percentile.	Jan 30 15:49
msb_	Do you not want people to see that in capitalist nations almost all wealth is held by the richest 1%?	Jan 30 15:51
msb_	The Gini number hides that. The histogram shows it.	Jan 30 15:52
MinceR	i want _you_ to see that in the places you believe are paradises, wealth is held even more inequally.	Jan 30 15:52
msb_	I haven't called any place "paradise". That's your lying straw-man argument.	Jan 30 15:53
MinceR	ooh, different words!	Jan 30 15:53
msb_	What "different words" are you talking about?	Jan 30 15:53
MinceR	i rephrased your "arguments" instead of hunting and copy-pasting your sentences, so i'm lying	Jan 30 15:54
msb_	Yes, you are lying when you attribute to me things I never said.	Jan 30 15:54
MinceR	by the way, your beloved Russia does even worse than Nicaragua or Venezuela	Jan 30 15:55
msb_	That's to be expected, because	Jan 30 15:56
msb_	Venezuela and Nicaragua are much more democratic than Russia	Jan 30 15:56
MinceR	you should make them a medal saying "more democratic than Russia!"	Jan 30 15:57
msb_	And while I'm Russian (Ukrainian) by ancestry, and aware of the fascist attacks on Russia by capitalist nations that slaughtered many millions, it is not "beloved" to me. Again you attribute things to me that I never said. You are lying.	Jan 30 15:58
MinceR	you seem to be unaware of the fascists attacks on Ukraine by Russia, though	Jan 30 15:59
MinceR	or you just don't care	Jan 30 15:59
MinceR	s/sts/st/	Jan 30 15:59
msb_	Again, by using the word "fascist" to mean "authoritarian" you make accurate thinking impossible.	Jan 30 15:59
msb_	I doubt that that's an accident.	Jan 30 16:00
MinceR	i doubt you'd care much while being killed by an authoritarian	Jan 30 16:00
msb_	The fascist -- corporatist, pro-wealthy -- media don't want people to understand the true meaning of fascist and socialist.	Jan 30 16:01
MinceR	and you don't understand it either	Jan 30 16:01
MinceR	considering that you keep bringing up examples of "socialism" that do not respect the supposed socialist values at all.	Jan 30 16:02
msb_	Fascism is a political system that uses force and deception to benefit the wealthy at the expense of working people. Socialism is a system in which working people control govt, factories, farms, transportation, medical facilities, etc, and receive the profits from them as wages.	Jan 30 16:03
MinceR	to what extend do they control/receive for that definition?	Jan 30 16:04
MinceR	s/end/ent/	Jan 30 16:04
msb_	The more the better.	Jan 30 16:05
MinceR	in that case, all democratic countries are "socialist" and no closer implementation of "socialism" has ever existed, especially not by countries that call themselves "socialist"	Jan 30 16:05
msb_	If the "democracy" were real, which would require people to be accurately informed, then they would vote for socialism.	Jan 30 16:07
msb_	But in the US for example, "democracy" is a farce because people are lied to by the wealthy-controlled media, so they have no idea of what's going on or what they could have.	Jan 30 16:08
msb_	They are also lied to by the educational system.	Jan 30 16:08
MinceR	the usa is not the only democracy on the planet, and there are countries in the western world that appear to be less flawed democracies than it	Jan 30 16:08
msb_	Yes, and some of them have more socialism and a higher standard of living than the US.	Jan 30 16:10
msb_	It also helps when they have a parliamentary system in which socialists can get elected and can discuss matters in the parliament.	Jan 30 16:11
msb_	Instead of a winner-take-all system in which they can't.	Jan 30 16:11
MinceR	what metric of 'standard of living' are you using?	Jan 30 16:12
msb_	Maximizing communication is all -important in enabling accurate thinking. Winner-take-all prevents it.	Jan 30 16:13
MinceR	i'm not sure how much of a role is left for communication in the parliament nowadays	Jan 30 16:14
msb_	I guess for a single number for standard of living, the median USD-equivalent wealth per person would be good.	Jan 30 16:16
MinceR	(javascript) https://www.battleforthenet.com/countdown/	Jan 30 16:16
msb_	But a histogram is better.	Jan 30 16:16
MinceR	so, GDP per capita?	Jan 30 16:16
MinceR	i'd use GDP (PPP) per capita	Jan 30 16:17
msb_	No, _median_ income per capita.	Jan 30 16:17
MinceR	oh.	Jan 30 16:17
MinceR	i wonder if anyone's calculated that.	Jan 30 16:17
msb_	That way huge wealth of the richest doesn't skew the number.	Jan 30 16:17
MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_household_income	Jan 30 16:18
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MinceR	this sounds like it isn't very far from it	Jan 30 16:18
MinceR	and the usa isn't doing badly at all	Jan 30 16:18
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msb_	The US uses subversion and military force to exploit populations all over the world and get things cheaply.	Jan 30 16:22
msb_	It supports the worst govts it can create in other nations in order to keep workers and their wages down there. That creates huge profits for US businessmen and also cheaper goods for the US population.	Jan 30 16:23
MinceR	not sure about that	Jan 30 16:24
MinceR	they don't seem to be too happy with the situation in hungary	Jan 30 16:24
MinceR	even though it will certainly lead to lower wages here	Jan 30 16:24
msb_	who isn't happy with the situation in Hungary?	Jan 30 16:25
MinceR	the us government	Jan 30 16:25
msb_	Has the US govt threatened Hungary?	Jan 30 16:25
MinceR	(unless they're publicly lying about their displeasure)	Jan 30 16:25
MinceR	not afaik	Jan 30 16:26
MinceR	but they've expressed their displeasure	Jan 30 16:26
msb_	Regarding what? Closeness with Russia?	Jan 30 16:26
MinceR	no	Jan 30 16:26
msb_	What then?	Jan 30 16:26
MinceR	elimination of rule of law, freedom of speech, etc.	Jan 30 16:26
MinceR	the usual	Jan 30 16:26
msb_	Which you are also unhappy about.	Jan 30 16:27
MinceR	indeed.	Jan 30 16:27
MinceR	even if they don't practice it as well as we'd like, they at least pay lip service to the ideals of freedom :)	Jan 30 16:27
msb_	We have plenty of lip service here in the US. It just serves to fool people.	Jan 30 16:28
MinceR	there are plenty of places with less freedom on Earth.	Jan 30 16:29
msb_	Saudi Arabia is a good example.	Jan 30 16:30
msb_	Or rather a horrible example.	Jan 30 16:30
msb_	Israel/Palestine isn't much better.	Jan 30 16:31
MinceR	same with Russia or Hungary	Jan 30 16:31
msb_	They're probably better. Palestine is now one big concentration camp, and women suffer horribly in Saudi.	Jan 30 16:33
MinceR	they're not	Jan 30 16:33
MinceR	consider Pussy Riot for Russia	Jan 30 16:33
MinceR	and consider that in hungary, the only opposition radio station has only partial coverage and even that only because trying to shut them down caused an international scandal;	Jan 30 16:34
msb_	Do most people in Hungary have computers and uncensored Net connections?	Jan 30 16:34
MinceR	and consider that the only allegedly opposition tv station is mostly owned by a cult leader who supports the government	Jan 30 16:34
MinceR	not sure, actually	Jan 30 16:34
MinceR	the nazis already put the law in place to enable them to censor the internet	Jan 30 16:34
MinceR	not sure how far they've gone with it	Jan 30 16:34
MinceR	there was a recent court case where they tried to silence an extremist 'news' portal, but it's hosted in the usa (iirc)	Jan 30 16:35
MinceR	so i'm not sure what they're doing, maybe they'll do the usual DNS blocking game	Jan 30 16:35
msb_	It will help a lot if/when they get them. Then people can read http://globalresearch.ca/ and cosmicpenguin.com	Jan 30 16:35
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MinceR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_in_Hungary#Internet_censorship_and_surveillance	Jan 30 16:36
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MinceR	(may be outdated)	Jan 30 16:36
MinceR	actually it's certainly outdated	Jan 30 16:36
msb_	Can you access all of youtube? how about globalresearch.ca ?	Jan 30 16:38
MinceR	parts of youtube are blocked by google probably only on copyright grounds	Jan 30 16:38
MinceR	i can also access globalresearch.ca	Jan 30 16:38
msb_	Good!	Jan 30 16:38
MinceR	i suspect the government isn't sophisticated enough to do anything more than DNS filtering yet	Jan 30 16:38
MinceR	(but the legal groundwork is there for more, iirc)	Jan 30 16:39
msb_	Single-board computers that run Linux are becoming very cheap now -- some about $30. Add a small monitor and away you go. If you can get a cheap Net connection.	Jan 30 16:40
MinceR	but for how long?	Jan 30 16:40
MinceR	i mean, for how long will that internet connection be allowed to be useful?	Jan 30 16:41
msb_	It's harder to take it away once people have it.	Jan 30 16:41
MinceR	nope, it's very easy to take it away	Jan 30 16:41
MinceR	the people happily watched the government take their rights away before as well	Jan 30 16:41
MinceR	the government demolished constitutionality, freedom of speech, rule of law, protection of private property	Jan 30 16:42
MinceR	the only time there was a substantial protest when they tried to put a huge tax on internet connections	Jan 30 16:42
msb_	I think that the reason the US govt did the 911 false-flag attack and the subsequent war of terror is that they were and are worried about the effect that cheap actual free speech on the Net would have.	Jan 30 16:42
MinceR	these people don't understand what freedom of speech is, or why it is important	Jan 30 16:42
MinceR	compare that to usians.	Jan 30 16:42
msb_	I think that once they have time to explore sites like youtube and globalresearch, and the info penetrates their minds, they will slowly wake up.	Jan 30 16:43
MinceR	for that, they'd have to (1) speak english and (2) care.	Jan 30 16:44
msb_	BTW, you are right about Pussy Riot. It was the worst PR Putin ever had.	Jan 30 16:44
MinceR	it's not just pr.	Jan 30 16:44
MinceR	(hm, Pussy Riot can also be abbreviated as PR)	Jan 30 16:45
msb_	Well, it was only a few people and they were released after what, about a year?	Jan 30 16:45
MinceR	oh, you wouldn't mind being jailed for "about a year" for insulting a cult?	Jan 30 16:45
msb_	but it made him look awful -- scared of pussy!	Jan 30 16:45
msb_	Of course I would.	Jan 30 16:46
msb_	But I am much more concerned about two million people being murdered by the US.	Jan 30 16:46
MinceR	you're not concerned about the people murdered by russia?	Jan 30 16:47
msb_	When is the last time Russia did that?	Jan 30 16:47
msb_	(I know in your mind it was only yesterday 8^)	Jan 30 16:47
MinceR	i don't know anymore	Jan 30 16:48
msb_	Maybe 50-60 years ago	Jan 30 16:48
MinceR	they're trying to blur the lines between russian military forces and supposedly non-russian forces	Jan 30 16:48
msb_	The US is doing it right now.	Jan 30 16:48
MinceR	apparently russia did kill some people even during the crimean crisis	Jan 30 16:49
MinceR	last year	Jan 30 16:49
msb_	The Nazi Ukraine coup govt backed by the US started that killing.	Jan 30 16:49
MinceR	so you keep saying	Jan 30 16:49
MinceR	ignoring putin's puppets, as usual	Jan 30 16:50
msb_	You know they shot down that airliner and blamed it on Russia, right?	Jan 30 16:50
MinceR	i don't know	Jan 30 16:50
msb_	What you call Putin's puppets were happy to live under the previous elected Ukraine govt.	Jan 30 16:50
MinceR	no, i called yanukovych & co. putin's puppets	Jan 30 16:52
MinceR	they weren't living "under" the government	Jan 30 16:52
msb_	For god's sake read this: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 16:52
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MinceR	and there were allegations of fraud	Jan 30 16:52
MinceR	so who knows what was really "elected"	Jan 30 16:52
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DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdPage=1&cdThread=Tx3TKACD1OXB16M&newContentID=MxIVYCXB1RRFGN&newContentNum=15#Mx2TVN1IP2YPIG2	Jan 30 16:53
MinceR	then again, even hungarians got the whole election thing horribly wrong	Jan 30 16:53
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DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Jan 30 16:53
DaemonFC	Don't worry. If it's a Microsoft AI, the "Enslaving humanity!" progress bar will keep moving while the remaining time goes up, giving the world plenty of time to figure out how to stop it, even if it doesn't just crash itself before the progress bar goes away.	Jan 30 16:53
DaemonFC	Don't forget to "Activate" your new overlord if it manages to finish enslaving us all, or it will stop enslaving us all after a few days and hang at the activation screen.	Jan 30 16:53
MinceR	lol	Jan 30 16:53
msb_	Yes, the elected govt of Ukraine wasn't the best, but the country was reasonably free and peaceful.	Jan 30 16:54
MinceR	apparently it was neither	Jan 30 16:55
MinceR	and now they have another elected government which also isn't the best	Jan 30 16:55
msb_	No, the Nazis were not elected.	Jan 30 16:55
MinceR	but poroshenko and yatsenyuk were, apparently	Jan 30 16:56
msb_	Ukraine was stable, with no shooting, until the US-supported Nazi coup.	Jan 30 17:05
MinceR	translation: ukraine was stable until it was not stable	Jan 30 17:05
msb_	The pro-EU and pro-Russia people were getting along together.	Jan 30 17:05
MinceR	until ukraine wanted to join the eu and the nato	Jan 30 17:06
msb_	No, that's a nonsense "translation". The violent Nazi coup was supported by the US.	Jan 30 17:06
MinceR	so you keep saying like that would make it true.	Jan 30 17:06
msb_	Some Ukrainians wanted to join the EU and some did not.	Jan 30 17:07
msb_	Have you read this article? http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 30 17:07
MinceR	i've skimmed it before	Jan 30 17:08
msb_	Please read it in detail.	Jan 30 17:08
MinceR	tons of bullshit	Jan 30 17:08
msb_	What in it is bullshit?	Jan 30 17:09
MinceR	a nazi party being present as a minority in a mostly moderate government makes the government "nazi" in their view	Jan 30 17:09
MinceR	and this point isn't even particularly explicit	Jan 30 17:09
MinceR	just the constant chant of "nazi, nazi, nazi"	Jan 30 17:09
MinceR	it's dishonest.	Jan 30 17:09
MinceR	it's also sensational.	Jan 30 17:10
msb_	The US govt gave the coup organizations FIVE BILLION DOLLARS!	Jan 30 17:11
MinceR	so not svoboda, but the coup organizations	Jan 30 17:11
MinceR	if they were sure of their truth, they'd have supported it with facts instead of just the sensationalistic repetition	Jan 30 17:12
msb_	"The Cabinet is not only integrated by the Svoboda and Right Sector (not to mention former members of defunct fascist UNA-UNSO), the two main Neo-Nazi entities have been entrusted with key positions which grant them de facto control over the Armed Forces, Police, Justice and National Security."	Jan 30 17:12
MinceR	show me a coalition government that did not give any positions to some of its component parties.	Jan 30 17:12
msb_	That govt gave _control_ positions to Nazis!	Jan 30 17:13
MinceR	all government positions are control positions.	Jan 30 17:13
MinceR	that's what being a minister is about.	Jan 30 17:13
msb_	control over the Armed Forces, Police, Justice and National Securit	Jan 30 17:14
msb_	y	Jan 30 17:14
MinceR	shouldn't have voted for the nazis, then.	Jan 30 17:14
msb_	Does control by Nazis bother you?	Jan 30 17:15
MinceR	it does	Jan 30 17:15
MinceR	even if it's by nazis who learned their trade in governments that called themselves "socialist" or "communist".	Jan 30 17:16
msb_	All Nazis are opposed to socialists.	Jan 30 17:17
MinceR	so they say.	Jan 30 17:17
msb_	You don't believe them?	Jan 30 17:18
MinceR	not necessarily	Jan 30 17:18
MinceR	you trust people who are solely concerned with their own fortune (authoritarians in the government) way too much.	Jan 30 17:18
msb_	Do you believe that Hitler's Nazis slaughtered socialists and trade-unionists wherever they could?	Jan 30 17:19
MinceR	also note that national socialism was designed also to attract socialists.	Jan 30 17:19
MinceR	i suppose they did, at some point	Jan 30 17:19
msb_	The name was a lie.	Jan 30 17:19
MinceR	and so's some of the symbolism	Jan 30 17:19
MinceR	including the red background of the flag.	Jan 30 17:19
MinceR	but then "people's republic", "democratic republic" and "people's democratic republic" also tends to be a lie.	Jan 30 17:20
msb_	What authoritarians are you saying that I trust?	Jan 30 17:20
MinceR	putin, for example	Jan 30 17:20
MinceR	yanukovych is another	Jan 30 17:20
msb_	I don't trust Putin. I'm glad he is opposing mass murder by the US.	Jan 30 17:21
MinceR	you expect putin to fight "fascists" just because he happens to be a different color of authoritarian, in your book	Jan 30 17:21
MinceR	you'd put out a house on fire by lighting another fire in the same house.	Jan 30 17:21
msb_	I don't expect anything. He and the other BRICS nations are opposing US takeover of the planet.	Jan 30 17:22
msb_	"house on fire" is another lying straw-man argument. Why don't you stop lying like that?	Jan 30 17:23
MinceR	and supporting russian or chinese takeover of the planet	Jan 30 17:23
MinceR	no, it's a metaphor	Jan 30 17:23
MinceR	but i guess you're too much of a moron to understand metaphors	Jan 30 17:23
msb_	Russia and China are not doing anything to take over the planet. The US has invaded and destroyed several nations in the last decade or so and murdered millions.	Jan 30 17:24
MinceR	http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/david-stockman-the-bric-miracle-is-a-fable-made-by-central-banks-and-told-by-goldman/	Jan 30 17:24
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MinceR	oh, annexation is not progress toward taking over the planet but occupation is?	Jan 30 17:24
MinceR	interesting ideas there	Jan 30 17:24
msb_	The Crimeans voted to be annexed.	Jan 30 17:24
MinceR	yes, at gunpoint	Jan 30 17:25
msb_	Where there guns in the polling places?	Jan 30 17:25
MinceR	annexing crimea did not take russia closer to take over the planet, but apparently being temporarily in afghanistan and iraq took the usa closer to taking over the planet	Jan 30 17:25
MinceR	why would the guns have to be in the polling places?	Jan 30 17:25
MinceR	they take effect over a distance, you know	Jan 30 17:25
MinceR	especially the bigger ones the russians are fond of	Jan 30 17:26
msb_	If the voting is private then how do guns elsewhere influence the voters?	Jan 30 17:28
MinceR	via threatening the entire population if the outcome is not what the russians desired, for example	Jan 30 17:29
MinceR	or by general intimidation	Jan 30 17:29
msb_	That's what secret ballots are for. Intimidation is avoided because nobody knows how you voted.	Jan 30 17:30
MinceR	they'll know how you voted if every vote is the same in the voting district	Jan 30 17:31
MinceR	they'll know how the majority voted in the voting district	Jan 30 17:31
MinceR	etc.	Jan 30 17:31
msb_	What would convince you that the Crimeans wanted to join Russia instead of living under Nazis?	Jan 30 17:32
MinceR	if the vote happened without the russian military show in crimea.	Jan 30 17:33
MinceR	also, you're implying that russians aren't nazis.	Jan 30 17:33
msb_	Yes. Nazis -- fascists -- those words have a particular meaning -- violent deceptive govt in service to corporations and the wealthy.	Jan 30 17:35
MinceR	check.	Jan 30 17:36
MinceR	also, same regime as under the USSR and the eastern bloc, but with a nationalist/christian flavor instead of the (pretend non-nationalist)/(communist/cult of personality) flavor	Jan 30 17:37
MinceR	same as in hungary	Jan 30 17:37
MinceR	since putin is orban's exemplar	Jan 30 17:39
msb_	It occurs to me to wonder: How much money did your family have before Russia took over Hungary?	Jan 30 17:40
MinceR	dunno, not much, afaik	Jan 30 17:40
MinceR	afaik we did have lands though	Jan 30 17:40
msb_	How much?	Jan 30 17:40
MinceR	dunno	Jan 30 17:40
MinceR	certainly more than we have now	Jan 30 17:41
MinceR	since the "privatization" favored those who had good government connections	Jan 30 17:41
MinceR	and we never had those	Jan 30 17:41
msb_	Do you know why Hitler invaded Russia and murdered 20 million people?	Jan 30 17:43
MinceR	i've heard of some reasons	Jan 30 17:44
msb_	Namely?	Jan 30 17:44
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MinceR	he wanted to conquer as much of earth (or at least europe) as he could; he expected opposition from russia	Jan 30 17:46
MinceR	though i faintly recall some pact between nazi germany and russia	Jan 30 17:46
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msb_	please watch this excellent documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM	Jan 30 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com \| JFK to 911 Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jfi6o ]		Jan 30 17:50
DaemonFC	MinceR, They names the snowstorm that's about to hit Indiana "Linus".	Jan 30 17:52
msb_	Also, please read the material linked here, American Businessmen Financed Hitler http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis	Jan 30 17:52
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DaemonFC	*named	Jan 30 17:52
MinceR	:)	Jan 30 17:52
DaemonFC	http://www.weather.com/storms/winter/news/winter-storm-linus-forecast-plains-midwest-northeast	Jan 30 17:52
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MinceR	msb_: no "IBM and the Holocaust"?	Jan 30 17:52
msb_	This information explains Hitler's motivations.	Jan 30 17:53
MinceR	you don't think he had any motivation other than his funding?	Jan 30 17:53
msb_	What was it?	Jan 30 17:54
MinceR	see above	Jan 30 17:54
msb_	see what above?	Jan 30 17:54
MinceR	234608 <@MinceR> he wanted to conquer as much of earth (or at least europe) as he could; he expected opposition from russia	Jan 30 17:54
MinceR	234629 <@MinceR> though i faintly recall some pact between nazi germany and russia	Jan 30 17:54
MinceR	i wonder why i talk to you if you don't read what i write anyway	Jan 30 17:54
msb_	Why did he want to conquere the earth?	Jan 30 17:55
MinceR	not sure	Jan 30 17:55
MinceR	ideology, megalomania, madness (basically the same thing anyway)	Jan 30 17:55
msb_	Please watch that video and read those links. That will give you some solid information.	Jan 30 17:56
MinceR	i think i'll just go to sleep instead.	Jan 30 17:57
msb_	You could watch and read them when you wake up. Get actual information instead of vague ideas.	Jan 30 17:58
msb_	Download the video using youtube-dl. That way you'll have it if your govt cuts of your Net.	Jan 30 18:00
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/561282575701139456 https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/561282804961796096	Jan 30 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @mk270 indeed, I went to the former and gave a talk on the subject; probably my fault it passed...		Jan 30 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: @wendycockcroft indeed		Jan 30 20:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/wendycockcroft/status/561280393983561728	Jan 30 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wendycockcroft: @glynmoody The sooner that misbegotten monster dies, the better.		Jan 30 20:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/561339852667375616	Jan 30 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz (hope you will re-phrase that, to be more specific)		Jan 30 20:47
schestowitz	Nations that support terrorists who further their own agenda, spread idealogy and power-shift	Jan 30 20:48
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schestowitz	hi carlosr	Jan 30 20:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/561343252113412096	Jan 30 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz I'd include insurgents & paramilitaries along side "terrorists". ISIL ("ISIS") is actually an ARMY that features TERROR plays.		Jan 30 21:02
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/561343957624315904	Jan 30 21:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz I gather your comment is in relation to the insurgents in Iraq and Syria.		Jan 30 21:04
schestowitz	They too were inadvertently supported by those who now fear them. Things got our of hand IMHO.	Jan 30 21:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561345552047017986	Jan 30 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz what would be your top priorities?		Jan 30 21:24
schestowitz	As in, if I was a politician?	Jan 30 21:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561351112511737857	Jan 30 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz yep that's what I meant. No spying on citizens I'd assume?		Jan 30 21:34
schestowitz	Only on those who are known to be potential threat (i.e. no mass surveillance)	Jan 30 21:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561352031122620417	Jan 30 21:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz yes sorry of course		Jan 30 21:42
schestowitz	All people whom I know successfully detonated bombs were already watched closely	Jan 30 21:43
schestowitz	There's no need to infringement everyone's privacy to find them in the haystack. Just look at travel records.	Jan 30 21:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/pixeldyne/status/561354344251920385	Jan 30 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pixeldyne: @schestowitz not closely enough or the police were too lenient?		Jan 30 21:48
schestowitz	Distracted by the haystack, overclassification	Jan 30 21:48
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schestowitz	http://readwrite.com/2015/01/26/drone-confusion-predator-multi-rotor-copter-new-word	Jan 30 22:14
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schestowitz	http://theweek.com/speedreads/536216/gotten-lot-easier-away-murder	Jan 30 22:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theweek.com \| It's gotten a lot easier to get away with murder [ http://ur1.ca/jlh89 ]		Jan 30 22:38
schestowitz	"a national backlog of more than 200,000 unsolved murders that have accumulated since 1980."	Jan 30 22:38
schestowitz	http://www.businessinsider.com.au/badger-submarine-bart-jansen-2015-1	Jan 30 23:18
schestowitz	DAFAQ	Jan 30 23:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com.au \| The Dutch Artist Who Turned His Dead Cat Into A Drone Is Keeping A Badger In His Freezer To Build A Submarine \| Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/jlhkp ]		Jan 30 23:19
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/561380321514364929	Jan 30 23:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: Just watched @aral's talk, 100% agree with importance of good UX that doesn't spy. @schestowitz @charlesarthur @DanielEran @arebee @stevesi		Jan 30 23:31
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5504441	Jan 31 05:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Libreboot X200 laptop now FSF-certified to respect your freedom http://www.fsf.org/news/libreboot-x200-laptop-now-fsf-certified-to-respect-your-freedom #fsf #gnu #linux		Jan 31 05:48
schestowitz	http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/product/libreboot-x200	Jan 31 05:48
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5511069	Jan 31 05:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Russian nuclear bombers over Britain" a misleading headline you can only find in #dailyfail http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2933765/Russian-nuclear-bombers-Britain-scared.html		Jan 31 05:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dailymail.co.uk \| Russian nuclear bombers over Britain and why we should all be VERY scared \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jll83 ]		Jan 31 05:49
schestowitz	"This is scary for Britons, but Russians have to get used to US and NATO planes over Russia and ships near Russian shores."	Jan 31 05:49
schestowitz	Because Russia always bombs countries, NATO never does... oh, wait. In Soviet Russia reversal?	Jan 31 05:49
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msb_	.	Jan 31 07:00
msb_	This friction with Russia began almost a year ago when the US gave FIVE BILLION DOLLARS to a bunch of Nazis to take over the government of Ukraine by military force: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554	Jan 31 07:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca \| The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine \| Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ]		Jan 31 07:01
msb_	People in eastern Ukraine made it known that they did not want to live under a Nazi regime, and thousands were shot or bombarded by the new Nazi government.	Jan 31 07:04
msb_	The Ukrainian Nazi coup government shot down a Malaysian airliner, murdering hundreds of people, and blamed it on a Russian missile. However, pieces of the cockpit wall were found to have holes from projectiles entering from both port and starboard. These could not have come from a single missile, but must have come from the two Nazi Ukraine jet fighter planes that were observed on both sides of the airliner.	Jan 31 07:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/mellenoweth/status/561496231953055744	Jan 31 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@mellenoweth: @schestowitz since they're not convincing many of us, don't rate their chances #RuleOfLaw #Surveillance #Habeas Corpus #FreeSpeech #Spying		Jan 31 07:10
msb_	Thus it was a false-flag terror operation by the US-backed Nazi coup government.	Jan 31 07:10
msb_	Crimea, in eastern Ukraine, voted overwhelmingly to join Russia, which then annexed it.	Jan 31 07:12
msb_	The US has launched various economic attacks against Russia.	Jan 31 07:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561497333217910784	Jan 31 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 this is not true. Everyone has to read this: https://t.co/DeqEyi4mPz		Jan 31 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Cephurs: Evolution of Terrorist Propaganda: The Paris Attack and Social Media http://t.co/wKX1QOFisL … ht @kufr666		Jan 31 07:14
msb_	Here's how the Daily Mail article totally reverses cause and effect: "First, there is the West’s response to Russia’s invasion of Crimea and violent incursions into Ukraine."	Jan 31 07:14
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561497471764140032	Jan 31 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 it's not about "journalists and bloggers".		Jan 31 07:14
schestowitz	GCHQ targets those too, if they're considered too effective for popular resistance	Jan 31 07:15
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561497893740486656	Jan 31 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: ,@schestowitz @kaatje36 ppl are being murdered & the killings are being uploaded to the internet in order to generate more murder.		Jan 31 07:15
schestowitz	But that's not the sole target of spying and shaming	Jan 31 07:16
schestowitz	Wikileaks, based on this assessment, could be targeted (as it is) for uploading Collateral Murder video to YouTube	Jan 31 07:17
msb_	.	Jan 31 07:20
msb_	The Western fascist nations control and gain the support of their populations by feeding them false information via the government and corporate media. This false view of the world was portrayed as "The Matrix" in the movie of that name.	Jan 31 07:22
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561498509187489793 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561498738569797633	Jan 31 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 GCHQ is over-rated.		Jan 31 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 don't believe the WL hype		Jan 31 07:23
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561498867070697473 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561499053612343297	Jan 31 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Other issue. Read it though and can't take someone who wants to abolish anonymity seriously....		Jan 31 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Besides that, he has a commercial interest in fearmongering.		Jan 31 07:23
msb_	Usually it involves claims that the US and other Western nations are being attacked by terrible enemies, and so we must all support our governments and give up our freedoms so we can be protected.	Jan 31 07:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561499289873313792 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561499661593485313	Jan 31 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz it's not about abolishing anonymity. Some of us are sick of the threats and will use any tool to stop it		Jan 31 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz and there is no "anonymity" on the Internet. The idea affords a false sense of security.		Jan 31 07:24
schestowitz	Check our Tor	Jan 31 07:24
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561499720687026176 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561500220794863616 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561500302621544448	Jan 31 07:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Last paragraph about Cloudflare is very clear.		Jan 31 07:25
msb_	But it usually turns out that any attacks are done by fascist agents disguised as communists and now Moslems, in what are called false-flag operations.	Jan 31 07:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz I got sent a vine of some dude getting his head chopped off. I don't wanna see that shit.		Jan 31 07:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz What he wants is like blaming a knifes producer for someone who kills with it.		Jan 31 07:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561500507379077120	Jan 31 07:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz no, if u listen to his testimony that is not true. Want the link?		Jan 31 07:26
schestowitz	msb_: not really	Jan 31 07:26
schestowitz	it's often that they have some past links	Jan 31 07:26
schestowitz	like having been trained in Jordan	Jan 31 07:26
schestowitz	knowing there would be risk involved\	Jan 31 07:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561500660559257602	Jan 31 07:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz sure		Jan 31 07:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561500835809882113 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561500883595567104	Jan 31 07:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: ,@kaatje36 @schestowitz I'm not the only one who got a vine vid. They were sending them left and right to lots of women who dared speak out.		Jan 31 07:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz I don't want to see ugly naked ppl on the web either, but it's there :D		Jan 31 07:27
schestowitz	De-anonymisation would not stop it (let alone be possible)	Jan 31 07:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561501151200542720	Jan 31 07:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz So, that calls for targeted research not for blaming the platform it's sent over imo.		Jan 31 07:28
msb_	schestowitz: Can you be more specific? There are some small-scale attacks by actual Moslem crazies, but we should remember that Reagan created the major organization of these, the Mujahideen, to attack the moderate socialist government of Afghanistan.	Jan 31 07:28
schestowitz	With utmost respect I think that anti-Internet lobbies have had you believe that problem is anonymity	Jan 31 07:28
schestowitz	msb_: to attack USSR	Jan 31 07:29
schestowitz	or provoke	Jan 31 07:29
msb_	The Mujahideen later was called Al-Qaeda.	Jan 31 07:29
schestowitz	The Brits paid off some of the socialists	Jan 31 07:29
schestowitz	One son of theirs is my friend	Jan 31 07:29
msb_	schestowitz: Exactly!	Jan 31 07:30
schestowitz	No, it wasn't a rebrand per se	Jan 31 07:30
schestowitz	It's just that many who came from one group joined the other	Jan 31 07:30
schestowitz	So there was overlap	Jan 31 07:30
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561501220280745985 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561501775480782849	Jan 31 07:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz sorry but I draw the line at CP and snuff. Snuff combined w/ trying to silence ppl who disagree - is not gonna fly		Jan 31 07:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz me too, but as said targeting is the method imo and not taking out a platform.		Jan 31 07:31
schestowitz	Deterrence won't come through ban on anonymous use of Net	Jan 31 07:31
schestowitz	Just as a ban on encryption would not make the bad folks obey the law	Jan 31 07:32
msb_	There have been many cases in which the Western fascists have armed and financed the most evil people they could find, both to prevent working people in various nations from gaining control of their own governments, and to create "enemies" which can be used to scare the people of the Western nations into obedience.	Jan 31 07:33
msb_	I should have said to prevent working people in various nations from gaining control of their own governments AND ECONOMIES.	Jan 31 07:34
msb_	One of the worst examples is the provision of 75% of the financing for Hitler's military buildup by wealthy US businessmen: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#US_Nazis	Jan 31 07:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Human Society That Works For Everyone		Jan 31 07:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561502317196091392 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561502510696112128 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561502783372034049	Jan 31 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 he's not calling for that anyway. IS use hashtags and the accounts are ez to trace but Twitter does not much.		Jan 31 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 Twitter does "not much" under orders from the FBI according to the guy who asked for that report.		Jan 31 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz It does give a chance to monitor them though.		Jan 31 07:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561502976247070720 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561503079431168000 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561503312152125441	Jan 31 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Lots of fake accnts to fearmonger as well......		Jan 31 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz or even to troll. Take the cybercaliphate accnt; was clearly fake.		Jan 31 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz idc. I want the nigs off here so we can DDoS ;-)		Jan 31 07:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561503740986163200	Jan 31 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: ,@kaatje36 @schestowitz I don't care how, who, or why. I want DDoS cc: @Cephurs @IntelTweet @Colonel_Shami		Jan 31 07:39
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504146361434113 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504230260092929	Jan 31 07:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: They are terrified of DDoS. So they hide on @twitter It's not about "anonymity" @kaatje36 @schestowitz @IntelTweet @Cephurs		Jan 31 07:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz DDoS is very expensive.		Jan 31 07:40
schestowitz	and illegal	Jan 31 07:40
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504452239446017 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561504685606313984	Jan 31 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 so what?		Jan 31 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 legality of DDoS has never actually been tested. All the guys took a plea deal.		Jan 31 07:45
schestowitz	Are you sure?	Jan 31 07:45
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561505338495889408 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561505383928565762	Jan 31 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 <--- is a spook, so he doesn't care if something is legal or not :P		Jan 31 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 no one will get arrested for DDoSing a IS upstream. It will never happen		Jan 31 07:46
schestowitz	http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/return-of-the-chindits-mod-reveals-cunning-defence-plan-10014608.html http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/31/british-army-facebook-warriors-77th-brigade	Jan 31 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk \| New British Army unit 'Brigade 77' to use Facebook and Twitter in psychological warfare - Home News - UK - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/jlmbo ]		Jan 31 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| British army creates team of Facebook warriors \| UK news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jlmbp ]		Jan 31 07:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561505856609865728	Jan 31 07:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz So if I get this right you want to hold platforms responsible for their users to isolate them		Jan 31 07:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561505960926384128	Jan 31 07:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 100 percent sure. The hosting company has more to lose by complaining. They are facing terror charges.		Jan 31 07:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561506336706686976	Jan 31 07:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 These units have existed for years already.		Jan 31 07:49
schestowitz	yes, but this is reaffirmation of the strategy	Jan 31 07:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561506613333614592	Jan 31 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Insane, that's not the right method and reading all content is a clear breach of human rights.		Jan 31 07:50
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561506890958770176	Jan 31 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz I am just a concerned citizen. But I don't like getting sent vine vids of some poor guy getting murdered.		Jan 31 07:51
schestowitz	If you blame the sender, no remedy here. If you blame the uploader, you can only try to break the Internet	Jan 31 07:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561507129820209153	Jan 31 07:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz srs. Who are they gonna complain to if the get DDoS? They will be arrested on the spot.		Jan 31 07:52
schestowitz	DDOS affects not only the target	Jan 31 07:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561507710894882816	Jan 31 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 DDoS is a form of protest. Like a "sit-in"		Jan 31 07:56
schestowitz	Tell that to the many people who have spent months DDOSing my sites	Jan 31 07:56
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561508276563869696	Jan 31 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Rooting them to take out their network seems more opportune to me. So, really targeted.		Jan 31 07:57
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561509144071794689	Jan 31 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 Could have been easily just one person with a big gun Roy; doesn't necessarily have to be several ppl.		Jan 31 08:01
schestowitz	One person with a botnet	Jan 31 08:01
schestowitz	Sit-ins don't last months	Jan 31 08:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561509424112472066	Jan 31 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz rooting is no good cuz that really can hurt innocents. DDoS just shuts them up and costs a lot of money,		Jan 31 08:02
schestowitz	Nuking their homes also costs a lot of money	Jan 31 08:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561509895846236160	Jan 31 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @kufr666 Agreed. You speak your mind, makes you a target.		Jan 31 08:03
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561510540904640514	Jan 31 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz it'll be more than one person with a botnet ;-) this is why they hide on Twitter		Jan 31 08:06
schestowitz	Your arguments are very weak, reveals misunderstand or poor understanding of the Net	Jan 31 08:07
schestowitz	misunderstanding	Jan 31 08:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561510552691015680	Jan 31 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Why? Track an uploaded Vid, if mistake has been made and you get the IP, root, get the contacts, take out.		Jan 31 08:07
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561510608261361664 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561510743216910336 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561510840705093632 https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561511098512596992	Jan 31 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz seems like a perfectly fine method to me.		Jan 31 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz that's why certain sites don't get targeted, this is already happening.		Jan 31 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz manbar.me		Jan 31 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Yeah but that one was outed months ago, so they ofc are aware not to use it		Jan 31 08:08
schestowitz	Ever dealt with DDOS attacks? I have, for many years (also for clients)	Jan 31 08:09
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561511792677896193	Jan 31 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 what do u mean by "dealt with DDoS attacks"? Never heard of them.		Jan 31 08:10
schestowitz	Ever had to protect a site from one?	Jan 31 08:11
schestowitz	DDOS attacks severely hurt not just the sites targeted	Jan 31 08:11
schestowitz	"he's trolling you; he's highly skilled with an agenda."	Jan 31 08:12
schestowitz	Yes, I'll ignore now	Jan 31 08:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561512316974276609	Jan 31 08:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz So? @kaatje36		Jan 31 08:12
schestowitz	Bye troll	Jan 31 08:12
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561512884472000512	Jan 31 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz Farsnews was over a million dollars damage. I'm not being a troll. Enlighten me. @kaatje36		Jan 31 08:16
schestowitz	"haha, don't say I said anything :D"	Jan 31 08:17
schestowitz	Of course, I regret wasting time on anonymous troll who bemoans anonymous trolls	Jan 31 08:17
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561513964643688451 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514051495137280 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514198341935104	Jan 31 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 over a million dollars damage and they got the message. They threatened us an their head of cyber-security was killed		Jan 31 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 got shot to death in a drive by		Jan 31 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @schestowitz @kaatje36 no more threat		Jan 31 08:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kaatje36/status/561514432304807937 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514803739381761 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561514979191291904	Jan 31 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @kufr666 @schestowitz Let's agree to disagree on the MO used to target them.		Jan 31 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz I like the drive by shooting story cuz of the #opiran got ppl killed nonsense @asherahresearch		Jan 31 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch and it really happened. Unlike that rumor. Guy was shot to death		Jan 31 08:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561515292723920897 https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561515678729900032	Jan 31 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch as one of the ppl targeted by this guy who was shot to death. I obviously took note		Jan 31 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch when real lives are at stake. I don't care about drama or money cuz of DDoS. Ppl still go home		Jan 31 08:28
schestowitz	"he has interesting pov's and it gives insight in how they think. I actually get along with him which puzzles me haha"	Jan 31 08:28
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kufr666/status/561516913256185856	Jan 31 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kufr666: @kaatje36 @schestowitz @asherahresearch @RealityForger always be careful who u talk to on the Internet. Not my work http://t.co/N5HBnIvC6c		Jan 31 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk \| Iranian cyber warfare commander shot dead in suspected assassination - Telegraph		Jan 31 08:39
MinceR	geekings	Jan 31 08:40
MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/BUyA9Cr.png	Jan 31 08:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/viejolex1/status/561522696765190144	Jan 31 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@viejolex1: @schestowitz @JesselynRadack @SurvivalistMind @Thomas_Drake1 @MarkSZaidEsq @bmaz scare her? i don't think you know who you're tangling with		Jan 31 08:56
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Sosumi	just installed the current version of fedora	Jan 31 11:58
Sosumi	and to my actual surprise	Jan 31 11:58
Sosumi	system d is on it	Jan 31 11:58
Sosumi	I didn't actually expect that	Jan 31 11:58
XRevan86	Sosumi: You didn't :)?	Jan 31 11:58
Sosumi	nop	Jan 31 11:59
Sosumi	I actually didn't	Jan 31 11:59
XRevan86	Fedora was the very first distribution to adopt systemd.	Jan 31 11:59
XRevan86	adapt*	Jan 31 11:59
MinceR	fedora's been infected with cancerd for a long time	Jan 31 11:59
Sosumi	:(	Jan 31 12:01
---g2` is now known as NSA		Jan 31 12:01
---NSA is now known as g2`		Jan 31 12:01
XRevan86	Sosumi: Debian, Gentoo, Slackware.	Jan 31 12:01
Sosumi	the ones not adopting systemd	Jan 31 12:02
Sosumi	right?	Jan 31 12:02
XRevan86	Sosumi: Gentoo and Slackware are not, Debian has systemd by default but gives a choice.	Jan 31 12:02
Sosumi	choice is good	Jan 31 12:03
XRevan86	Gentoo also gives a choice and systemd is not by default.	Jan 31 12:03
Sosumi	but init isn't being deprecated, right?	Jan 31 12:04
XRevan86	Sosumi: In Debian it kinda is, still supported though.	Jan 31 12:04
Sosumi	ok	Jan 31 12:04
XRevan86	Sosumi: Consider using OpenRC :).	Jan 31 12:04
XRevan86	https://packages.debian.org/jessie/openrc	Jan 31 12:04
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Sosumi	:)	Jan 31 12:05
MinceR	debian is already adopting cancerd	Jan 31 12:06
MinceR	that's why there's devuan	Jan 31 12:06
XRevan86	MinceR: Devuan is not worth mentioning	Jan 31 12:06
MinceR	and the choice debian gives you is "you can use systemd or we'll break everything we can for you"	Jan 31 12:06
XRevan86	http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d	Jan 31 12:06
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MinceR	XRevan86: devuan's worth mentioning more than debian is	Jan 31 12:06
XRevan86	MinceR: So you think two worthless packages are more important than whole Debian?	Jan 31 12:07
XRevan86	(with or without systemd)	Jan 31 12:07
MinceR	i think that a working GNU/Linux distro is more important than yet another fedora with different logo and wallpaper	Jan 31 12:07
XRevan86	MinceR: That's a lot of assumptions.	Jan 31 12:08
XRevan86	1. Devuan not only exists but also works.	Jan 31 12:09
XRevan86	2. systemd transforms a distro into Fedora	Jan 31 12:09
MinceR	you might want to read poettering's plans.	Jan 31 12:09
XRevan86	MinceR: I am more interested in plans of Debian :).	Jan 31 12:10
XRevan86	systemd is free software and Poettering always have a chance to go to hell if systemd adopters think he is nuts.	Jan 31 12:11
MinceR	the plans of debian do not matter since they've adopted poettering as their master	Jan 31 12:13
MinceR	poettering is forcing them to his way in everything	Jan 31 12:13
XRevan86	MinceR: For now they think it's not that bad.	Jan 31 12:14
MinceR	which only increases the danger	Jan 31 12:14
MinceR	maybe they'll never realize their stuff is broken	Jan 31 12:14
MinceR	maybe it will only be too late	Jan 31 12:14
XRevan86	MinceR: I doubt that mega-plans of Poettering which implies major rethinking of distros can pass them :).	Jan 31 12:15
MinceR	what matters to me is that the debian TC has already committed to only making systemd work in their next alleged "stable" release	Jan 31 12:16
XRevan86	systemd can be forked and already is: http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/	Jan 31 12:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uselessd.darknedgy.net \| uselessd :: information system		Jan 31 12:16
MinceR	it's pointless to fork an inherently bad design	Jan 31 12:16
MinceR	you might as well be running windows or reactos	Jan 31 12:17
XRevan86	MinceR: ReactOS doesn't even work (just like Devuan :D)	Jan 31 12:17
MinceR	neither will jessie	Jan 31 12:17
XRevan86	they can't even make it not to fall into BSOD for 20 minutes in VirtualBox	Jan 31 12:18
XRevan86	MinceR: Jessie can work for 20 minutes without falling into kernel panic.	Jan 31 12:18
MinceR	ooh, 20 minutes	Jan 31 12:18
MinceR	that's enough for so much	Jan 31 12:18
MinceR	i could hire someone to reboot my jessie server every 20 minutes	Jan 31 12:18
MinceR	or i could just use a distro that isn't made by idiots	Jan 31 12:19
XRevan86	MinceR: I said that because of analogy with ReactOS	Jan 31 12:19
MinceR	as for cancerd systems not being fedora, do you realize that systemd already has sort of a package manager built in?	Jan 31 12:20
XRevan86	MinceR: No, I don't.	Jan 31 12:20
XRevan86	MinceR: How is it called?	Jan 31 12:20
XRevan86	https://startpage.com/do/search?cat=web&query=systemd-dnfd I guess not like thatю	Jan 31 12:22
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XRevan86	that.*	Jan 31 12:22
MinceR	i can't find it	Jan 31 12:22
DaemonFC	Time to go to the store and stock up on a few odds and ends before we get a foot of snow dumped on us. :P	Jan 31 12:23
DaemonFC	Winter Storm Linus	Jan 31 12:23
XRevan86	DaemonFC: Linus? Really?	Jan 31 12:24
XRevan86	It is wrong to call it Linus. Proper name is GNU+Linus.	Jan 31 12:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/isabell08481837/status/561541179742097408	Jan 31 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@isabell08481837: @ggreenwald @schestowitz before murder,suicide and war are these "mustlims" askedwhat is your religion so I can write my "advertising news"		Jan 31 12:25
DaemonFC	Yeah. That's what they named it.	Jan 31 12:26
XRevan86	MinceR: systemd somewhat sucks and gives doubts but it's not as evil as you're trying to make it look.	Jan 31 12:29
MinceR	yeah, it's worse	Jan 31 12:30
XRevan86	MinceR: No, it's not.	Jan 31 12:30
MinceR	i haven't mentioned most of the issues with it yet	Jan 31 12:30
XRevan86	MinceR: I'm sure they do exist just as in other projects.	Jan 31 12:31
MinceR	well, i guess they do exist in other projects such as windows and macos	Jan 31 12:31
MinceR	like the intentional non-portability	Jan 31 12:31
MinceR	(and refusing to accept patches to fix it)	Jan 31 12:32
XRevan86	MinceR: {e,}udev is not portable either.	Jan 31 12:32
MinceR	yes, udev is also crap	Jan 31 12:33
MinceR	and tied to systemd	Jan 31 12:33
XRevan86	MinceR: And eudev?	Jan 31 12:33
MinceR	there's some hope for that	Jan 31 12:33
XRevan86	MinceR: It will not ever be portable.	Jan 31 12:34
MinceR	as its maintainers are not as malicious as poettering	Jan 31 12:34
XRevan86	MinceR: Is Devuan malicious?	Jan 31 12:34
MinceR	systemd non-portability already killed Debian GNU/HURD and Debian GNU/kFreeBSD	Jan 31 12:34
MinceR	not afaict	Jan 31 12:34
XRevan86	MinceR: Devuan only accepted donations and do/did nothing.	Jan 31 12:35
MinceR	doesn't look like it does nothing	Jan 31 12:35
XRevan86	MinceR: What they did?	Jan 31 12:35
XRevan86	examples of real work	Jan 31 12:35
MinceR	there's LoginKit, for example	Jan 31 12:36
MinceR	though i'm not sure if i'll use it	Jan 31 12:36
XRevan86	MinceR: How is it related to Devuan?	Jan 31 12:36
MinceR	it's made for devuan and its developer was helped out from donations to devuan, afaik	Jan 31 12:37
XRevan86	MinceR: Yeah, I heard Devuan folks said they were planning to give some of the donations to him.	Jan 31 12:38
XRevan86	Still I don't know if he actually get some.	Jan 31 12:38
MinceR	afaik they already did	Jan 31 12:38
MinceR	also, to you, a project doesn't exist until it does its first release?	Jan 31 12:38
XRevan86	MinceR: Until it gets some work into repo.	Jan 31 12:39
MinceR	https://git.devuan.org/explore/projects	Jan 31 12:41
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XRevan86	MinceR: I see LoginKit here.	Jan 31 12:41
XRevan86	no other actual work	Jan 31 12:41
DaemonFC	https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/988931_917828781574391_2647735375828257796_n.jpg?oh=384f959f2fb6fed93f69d8a27e0523ce&oe=555CA48D&__gda__=1431932044_445e514c12befe29a4fefa8a8e109dad	Jan 31 12:45
MinceR	but i'll probably just run Bedrock+Gentoo instead.	Jan 31 13:04
MinceR	so i can also get rid of polkit and consolekit :>	Jan 31 13:04
XRevan86	Useless trademark violation pictures presents: http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/15/0131/h_1422728064_3251273_8f50519120.png	Jan 31 13:18
XRevan86	Blue System → Blue Systems (:	Jan 31 13:18
MinceR	huh?	Jan 31 13:29
XRevan86	MinceR: Have you heard about Modern Talking?	Jan 31 13:31
MinceR	i have, but not much	Jan 31 13:32
XRevan86	MinceR: Blue System is a music band which happend after MT breakup.	Jan 31 13:33
XRevan86	(first one)	Jan 31 13:33
MinceR	what do they have to do with KDE?	Jan 31 13:33
XRevan86	MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems	Jan 31 13:34
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MinceR	oh.	Jan 31 13:34
MinceR	the Blue System logo clears it up :)	Jan 31 13:35
XRevan86	MinceR: :)	Jan 31 13:35
DaemonFC	16" of snow is coming.	Jan 31 17:19
DaemonFC	sigh	Jan 31 17:19
DaemonFC	Crap. I forgot to get popcorn while I was at the store.	Jan 31 17:19
MinceR	we haven't had a real winter in hungary for a while	Jan 31 17:25
XRevan86	This year winter is proper… since January.	Jan 31 17:30
XRevan86	in Russia	Jan 31 17:30
gde33	http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31039227	Jan 31 17:45
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XRevan86	in the North West, I mean	Jan 31 17:46
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schestowitz__	hi XRevan86, welcome	Jan 31 18:46
XRevan86	schestowitz__: Salute, thanks :).	Jan 31 18:46
XRevan86	I'm going to bed now, though…	Jan 31 18:47
XRevan86	I'm not sleeping now only because I'm busy answering a letter.	Jan 31 18:47
XRevan86	Good night, folks.	Jan 31 18:52
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MinceR	gn	Jan 31 19:32
msb_	DaemonFC: Thanks for the Canada Song!	Jan 31 19:58
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer shared Blue Nation Review's photo.	Jan 31 21:32
DaemonFC	1 min ·	Jan 31 21:32
DaemonFC	I've always wondered this. If Christianity and Islam are inherently peaceful, then why are the extreme examples of both so violent? You would expect the extreme example of a peaceful religion to be extremely peaceful. Would you not?	Jan 31 21:32
msb_	Judaism, Christianity and Islam have all ordered people to worship an undetectable (and non-existent) "god", and told them to murder anyone who wouldn't worship the god. All three are male-supremacist, and Judaism and Islam do genital mutilation, which causes deep-seated personality problems. The fact is, all these religions are based on psychopathy, and are very injurious to people and human society. The claim that they are "	Jan 31 23:04
msb_	peaceful" is simply a Big Lie.	Jan 31 23:04
msb_	http://www.evilbible.com/	Jan 31 23:05
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msb_	The JCI religions were either designed from their beginning as means for controlling and thus exploiting people, or were rapidly adapted to that purpose by dominating organized psychopaths.	Jan 31 23:09
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