IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: March 15th, 2015-March 21st, 2015

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MinceR	"wlterm draws its own decoration"	Mar 15 00:00
MinceR	so much for that.	Mar 15 00:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha MATE/Compiz Screenshot Tour	Mar 15 00:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/O9hNxwLzRu (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 00:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwufj	Mar 15 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 22 Alpha MATE/Compiz Screenshot Tour \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 00:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Control Center 3.14.3 Brings Support for	Mar 15 00:37
TweetTuxMachines	NetworkManager 1.0 http://t.co/4mrpdcMobJ	Mar 15 00:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 00:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwufl	Mar 15 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GNOME Control Center 3.14.3 Brings Support for NetworkManager 1.0 \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 00:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Meizu M1 Note confirmed to go international	Mar 15 00:37
TweetTuxMachines	after Ubuntu Touch-powered variant	Mar 15 00:37
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ytf0kQZLLZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 00:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwufm	Mar 15 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Meizu M1 Note confirmed to go international after Ubuntu Touch-powered variant \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 00:37
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DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Mar 15 02:53
DaemonFC	2 mins ·	Mar 15 02:53
DaemonFC	http://action.sumofus.org/a/grand-canyon/	Mar 15 02:53
DaemonFC	Oh this is bullshit. They want to blight the Grand Canyon with a shopping mall. What the hell is wrong with you people!?!?	Mar 15 02:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-action.sumofus.org \| Stop the super mall in the Grand Canyon! \| SumOfUs [ http://ur1.ca/jww00 ]		Mar 15 02:53
MinceR	gn	Mar 15 03:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0.6 Now Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.9 LTS	Mar 15 07:25
TweetTuxMachines	For Raspberry Pi 2 http://t.co/RPusxQ1LCw	Mar 15 07:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 07:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxpq	Mar 15 07:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OpenELEC 5.0.6 Now Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.9 LTS For Raspberry Pi 2 \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 07:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How To Install Tor Browser 4.0.4 In Linux To	Mar 15 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	Surf Anonymously http://t.co/3SuJm5OUIu	Mar 15 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxw3	Mar 15 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How To Install Tor Browser 4.0.4 In Linux To Surf Anonymously \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xtra-PC Helps Non-Technical People Install	Mar 15 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	Linux on an Old PC http://t.co/VfTfqwWqTw	Mar 15 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	(lifehacker.com)	Mar 15 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com \| Xtra-PC Helps Non-Technical People Install LInux on an Old PC		Mar 15 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxw4	Mar 15 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.1 Hides A Little Secret - Google VPN	Mar 15 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/W9hYkZQiys (www.techtimes.com)	Mar 15 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxw5	Mar 15 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com \| Android 5.1 Hides A Little Secret - Google VPN : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times		Mar 15 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro XFCE 0.9.0-pre4 edition released	Mar 15 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bMlptiVRKc (manjaro.github.io)	Mar 15 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxwq	Mar 15 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io \| Manjaro XFCE 0.9.0-pre4 edition released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity		Mar 15 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha MATE/Compiz Screenshot Tour	Mar 15 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pdnjMee6kC (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxws	Mar 15 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Fedora 22 Alpha MATE/Compiz Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 15 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Control Center 3.14.3 Brings Support for	Mar 15 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	NetworkManager 1.0 http://t.co/Y9aqFjn21v	Mar 15 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Control Center 3.14.3 Brings Support for NetworkManager 1.0 - Softpedia		Mar 15 08:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxwt	Mar 15 08:02
schestowitz	> "A 20-minute online video chat with a Maricopa County	Mar 15 08:19
schestowitz	> inmate costs $5. That's the promotional rate	Mar 15 08:19
schestowitz	> ... it had to steer visitors toward remote visits,	Mar 15 08:19
schestowitz	> which can cost up to $1 per minute."	Mar 15 08:19
schestowitz	>	Mar 15 08:19
schestowitz	> http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/jail-prison-video-visitation	Mar 15 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com \| Prison Phone Companies Have Found Yet Another Way to Squeeze Families for Cash \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/jwxzz ]		Mar 15 08:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0.6 Now Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.9 LTS	Mar 15 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	For Raspberry Pi 2 http://t.co/2SMjQVJ0Vf	Mar 15 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| OpenELEC 5.0.6 Now Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.9 LTS For Raspberry Pi 2 - Softpedia		Mar 15 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwy5w	Mar 15 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xtra-PC Helps Non-Technical People Install	Mar 15 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	Linux on an Old PC http://t.co/Opkqplrwg7	Mar 15 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwy5z	Mar 15 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Xtra-PC Helps Non-Technical People Install Linux on an Old PC \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel Developers Summarize Linux Storage	Mar 15 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	Filesystem and Memory Management Summit	Mar 15 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LUOgJrkhPb (www.linux.com)	Mar 15 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwy60	Mar 15 08:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Kernel Developers Summarize Linux Storage Filesystem and Memory Management Summit \| Linux.com		Mar 15 08:54
*TweetTuxMachines @Fusion4Hosting favourited 'Kernel Developers Summarize Linux Storage Filesystem and Memory...'		Mar 15 09:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gallery: 7 Android and Linux Smartwatches to	Mar 15 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	Take on the Apple Watch http://t.co/WMde1TNhNc	Mar 15 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 15 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwy74	Mar 15 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 7 Android and Linux Smartwatches to Take on the Apple Watch \| Linux.com		Mar 15 09:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 10 Linux and Android Products from Mobile	Mar 15 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	World Congress http://t.co/Z1qucGNahj	Mar 15 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com) Gallery: http://t.co/JDuTRjuAlx	Mar 15 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 15 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyfg	Mar 15 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Top 10 Linux and Android Products from Mobile World Congress \| Linux.com		Mar 15 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Top 10 Linux and Android Products from MWC 2015 \| Linux.com		Mar 15 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Week in Techrights http://t.co/FWsxabasUR	Mar 15 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Mar 15 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwycv	Mar 15 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Ported to Raspberry Pi 2	Mar 15 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/MlH4XWB7rg (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyj6	Mar 15 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Ported to Raspberry Pi 2 - Softpedia		Mar 15 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux distribution based on Ubuntu that will	Mar 15 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	power the NXQ mini ARM PC."	Mar 15 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/i7kItl63zu (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyj7	Mar 15 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nitrux OS Is a Linux Distro Running on the NXQ Mini PC, Looks Amazing - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 15 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Lite 2.4 Beta is out	Mar 15 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lGG19ElYgB (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyj8	Mar 15 10:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Lite 2.4 Beta Brings Support for Microsoft’s exFAT File System - Softpedia		Mar 15 10:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dead Island, X Series and Broken Sword 5 Up to	Mar 15 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	75% Off on Steam http://t.co/ez0WQCAthU	Mar 15 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxarena.com)	Mar 15 11:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxarena.com \| Dead Island, X Series and Broken Sword 5 Up to 75% Off on Steam \| TuxArena		Mar 15 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyqq	Mar 15 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source: A Cross-Industry Hero	Mar 15 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gaDtOM4SAV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyqs	Mar 15 11:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open Source: A Cross-Industry Hero \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 10 Linux and Android Products from Mobile	Mar 15 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	World Congress http://t.co/txAiVLagBf	Mar 15 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyqu	Mar 15 11:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Top 10 Linux and Android Products from Mobile World Congress \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 11:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Expansion http://t.co/UJxMqPyBbH	Mar 15 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyy1	Mar 15 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Docker Expansion \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Ported to Raspberry Pi 2	Mar 15 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pYXiFRUBZn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyy2	Mar 15 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Ported to Raspberry Pi 2 \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Lite 2.4 Beta Brings Support for	Mar 15 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	Microsoft’s exFAT File System	Mar 15 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YtiPREsZBQ (error)	Mar 15 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyy3	Mar 15 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Lite 2.4 Beta Brings Support for Microsoft’s exFAT File System \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 12:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Purdue expands use of open-source software,	Mar 15 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	cuts costs http://t.co/0HGBhWYkMz	Mar 15 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz3s	Mar 15 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Purdue expands use of open-source software, cuts costs \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vendors "change the behaviour of their firmware	Mar 15 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	and breaking things in the process."	Mar 15 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ix3g0CY6Py (mjg59.dreamwidth.org)	Mar 15 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz3u	Mar 15 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org \| mjg59 \| Vendors continue to break things		Mar 15 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google reportedly building Android for virtual	Mar 15 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	reality hardware http://t.co/JV4YAIwGjG	Mar 15 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Mar 15 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Google reportedly building Android for virtual reality hardware \| ZDNet		Mar 15 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz3v	Mar 15 12:45
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__martin__	hello	Mar 15 12:49
XRevan86	__martin__: hi	Mar 15 12:49
__martin__	petition against increased surveillance reached 675+- signatants (including me) (=	Mar 15 12:49
__martin__	surely it been reshared enough // atm watching william binney's two hour long interview	Mar 15 12:50
__martin__	has	Mar 15 12:50
__martin__	*	Mar 15 12:50
__martin__	650**	Mar 15 12:51
__martin__	http://www.changenet.sk/?section=kampane&x=796541	Mar 15 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.changenet.sk \| CHANGENET.SK \| Kampane \| Tajn sluba chce viac moci. 11 zmien, aby ju nezneuvala (podporte ich) [ http://ur1.ca/jwz4f ]		Mar 15 12:51
__martin__	http://dsl.sk/article.php?article=16777	Mar 15 12:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dsl.sk \| DSL.sk - Zkon prike odovzda ifrovacie ke ttu, vznikla hromadn pripomienka proti		Mar 15 12:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	but lags a bit in performance	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VbjLkSgG78	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	(mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk)	Mar 15 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk \| Linuxed - Exploring Linux distros: Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual but lags a bit in performance		Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6j	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux distribution based on Ubuntu that will	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	power the NXQ mini ARM PC."	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/i7kItl63zu (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6k	Mar 15 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nitrux OS Is a Linux Distro Running on the NXQ Mini PC, Looks Amazing - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 Warning Signs That You’re Meant to Switch to	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/d0eCoq2TZX	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 15 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| 7 Warning Signs That You're Meant to Switch to Linux		Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6l	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.04 Is Turning Out Quite Nice: A Good	Mar 15 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	Way To Try Out The Latest KDE Experience	Mar 15 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HJw2LRxGd8 (www.phoronix.com)	Mar 15 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6x	Mar 15 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Kubuntu 15.04 Is Turning Out Quite Nice: A Good Way To Try Out The Latest KDE Experience - Phoronix		Mar 15 13:08
*TweetTuxMachines @JRepin favourited 'Plasma is my new favorite desktop http://t.co/g6hra1Kmyv'		Mar 15 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com \| Plasma is my new favorite desktop \| OCS-Mag		Mar 15 13:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4 Linux Music Players That Deserve Your	Mar 15 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	Attention Now	Mar 15 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nDPZqZGxGm (www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 15 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzav	Mar 15 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| 4 Linux Music Players That Deserve Your Attention Now		Mar 15 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers	Mar 15 13:36
TweetTuxMachines	from Windows and Mac http://t.co/Zue0WQ4shN	Mar 15 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 15 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzaw	Mar 15 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac		Mar 15 13:37
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XRevan86	> Didn’t know they watch Fox in Russia	Mar 15 13:39
XRevan86	schestowitz: Me too.	Mar 15 13:39
schestowitz	http://rt.com/usa/240829-kill-russians-fox-general-defiant/	Mar 15 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/jwzbb ]		Mar 15 13:39
*TweetTuxMachines @kdecommunity favourited 'Kubuntu 15.04 Is Turning Out Quite Nice: A...'		Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Q&A: raw engineering on how open source	Mar 15 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	‘changed the world’ http://t.co/HJHCAPCvw0	Mar 15 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzcz	Mar 15 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Q&A: raw engineering on how open source ‘changed the world’ \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 13:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	but lags a bit in performance	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kXJtBwFn4t (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzd7	Mar 15 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual but lags a bit in performance \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 Warning Signs That You’re Meant to Switch to	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/tAi3vGUx3f	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzd8	Mar 15 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 Warning Signs That You’re Meant to Switch to Linux \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	from Windows and Mac http://t.co/6wnhxq9OEG	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzda	Mar 15 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4 reasons CIOs should give open source a second	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	look http://t.co/7ZwQqkiEG5	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 13:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzdb	Mar 15 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4 reasons CIOs should give open source a second look \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 13:52
*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Q&A: raw engineering on how open source ‘changed...'		Mar 15 13:52
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ArtVolumeOne/status/577113544128376832	Mar 15 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArtVolumeOne: @schestowitz @ioerror 11/14 & https://t.co/3FV0H8qo68 https://t.co/jMYlzTXtml		Mar 15 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArtVolumeOne: & you can be certain 'warring cyber tribes' of anti-NSA hackers who love to hack your personal data & the criminal enterprise that is NSA ..		Mar 15 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArtVolumeOne: Is there a diff btw some- hackers who criminally target/spy on people, reading/stealing emails/etc & unconstitutional dragnet spying of NSA?		Mar 15 14:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/577118441724882944	Mar 15 14:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz I'm still using 14/10/1066 as a reason to slag off, spy on and look down upon the people of Hastings.		Mar 15 14:49
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MinceR	geekings	Mar 15 17:24
XRevan86	MinceR: geekaluton	Mar 15 17:24
XRevan86	Lost Geekings 2: Gnuse by Gnusewest.	Mar 15 17:25
MinceR	XRevan86: "wlterm draws its own decoration" -- so much for that	Mar 15 17:27
XRevan86	MinceR: It's weston-terminal	Mar 15 17:29
XRevan86	MinceR: I was mistaken	Mar 15 17:29
MinceR	seems to be undocumented, in true lendows fashion	Mar 15 17:32
MinceR	afaik weston only supports CSD anyway	Mar 15 17:33
XRevan86	Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter when the promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear blue sky?	Mar 15 17:33
MinceR	i don't think i know what you mean	Mar 15 17:34
XRevan86	MinceR: It's a Pink Floyd quote. I mean that brave new world is coming.	Mar 15 17:35
MinceR	Huxley's?	Mar 15 17:35
XRevan86	MinceR: No, not that precise one.	Mar 15 17:35
MinceR	we're on the treshold of a new dark age	Mar 15 17:37
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5763453	Mar 15 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #ProDiseaser		Mar 15 17:54
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schestowitz	"I don't need an anti-virus, I use GNU/Linux. Microsoft and Apple are virii themselves. Dense population city dwelling is also the problem as to why people get diseases (ie: Babylon)"	Mar 15 17:54
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765269	Mar 15 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Have all the 'moderate' 'rebels' defected to IS yet? http://www.christiantoday.com/article/us.syria.strategy.in.peril.with.collapse.of.cia.backed.rebel.group/49354.htm http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/05/us-mideast-crisis-syria-hazzm-idUSKBN0M10GV20150305		Mar 15 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.christiantoday.com \| US Syria strategy in peril with collapse of CIA-backed rebel group \| Christian News on Christian Today [ http://ur1.ca/jx0ps ]		Mar 15 17:54
schestowitz	":D"	Mar 15 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reuters.com \| U.S. Syria strategy falters with collapse of rebel group \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/jx0pt ]		Mar 15 17:54
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5764765	Mar 15 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Highlighting to #drone operators who they kill (refuting #pentagon #propaganda that calls kids "Al Qaeda") helps halt counterproductive war		Mar 15 17:55
schestowitz	"Or accelerate shift to autonomous drones.."	Mar 15 17:55
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765142	Mar 15 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Imagine the headline "Obama Alive, Sick With Flu Despite Death Rumors" and then open this http://www.ibtimes.com/vladimir-putin-alive-sick-flu-despite-death-rumors-cia-source-tells-gawker-1847248		Mar 15 17:55
schestowitz	"I read this week in a silly forum that Putin nuked Kiev and all the Russian embassies were closing. Why would Russia nuke Kiev? That's like killing mosquitoes with cannons, not to mention a nice radiation hotspot near Moscow."	Mar 15 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ibtimes.com \| Vladimir Putin Alive, Sick With Flu Despite Death Rumors, CIA Source Tells Gawker [ http://ur1.ca/jx0pv ]		Mar 15 17:55
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765226	Mar 15 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "a ‘dark alliance’ between the CIA, Nicaraguan rebels and cocaine traffickers." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2982055/CIA-scandal-got-lost-amid-obsession-Monica-Lewinsky.html good film		Mar 15 18:33
schestowitz	"gonna watch so..."	Mar 15 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dailymail.co.uk \| CIA scandal that got lost amid our obsession with Monica Lewinsky: Kill the Messenger is reminiscent of All The President's Men, writes BRIAN VINER \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jx0z0 ]		Mar 15 18:33
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5764523	Mar 15 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Editorial Board of #bostonglobe speaks for corporations http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2015/03/09/nsa-should-respect-corporations-privacy/bBlH5u2tWUpfcYGDRISG1H/story.html because, hey, they're better than people, right?		Mar 15 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bostonglobe.com \| NSA should respect corporations’ privacy - Editorials - The Boston Globe [ http://ur1.ca/jx0z5 ]		Mar 15 18:34
schestowitz	"Think of the corporations, at least he US ones."	Mar 15 18:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5764760	Mar 15 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This article claims the protesters targeted PTSD, but it's made up BS that diverts sympathy to the killers http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/03/06/drone-warfare-veterans-ptsd		Mar 15 18:34
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schestowitz	"I had the idea that problems cannot be solved by criminalizing dissent. Time to sanction US officials?"	Mar 15 18:34
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765256	Mar 15 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: CIA Papers Suggest Murder of Ecuador's Former President http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/CIA-Papers-Suggest-Murder-of-Ecuadors-Former-President-20150311-0034.html "freedom and democracy"?		Mar 15 18:35
schestowitz	"hahahah"	Mar 15 18:35
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DaemonFC	http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/15/uk-first-poo-bio-bus-bristol-regular-service	Mar 15 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| UK's first 'poo bus' goes into regular service \| UK news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jx13y ]		Mar 15 19:01
DaemonFC	"I see the number two is late again."	Mar 15 19:01
DaemonFC	"I hope it doesn't have to suddenly stop or it might leave skid marks."	Mar 15 19:01
MinceR	:>	Mar 15 19:08
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxZTS2XWRA0TSX	Mar 15 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: "They already control Tehran!" said Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) of the Iranian regime. [ http://ur1.ca/jx19y ]		Mar 15 19:36
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Mar 15 19:37
DaemonFC	http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/03/15/3633912/tom-cotton-alarmed-capital-iran-controlled-iran/	Mar 15 19:37
DaemonFC	"They already control Tehran!" said Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) of the Iranian regime.	Mar 15 19:37
DaemonFC	"Schieffer went on to ask Cotton whether he had any regrets at all about the letter. So he didn't clarify with Cotton what he meant by his comment that Iran has 'control' of its own capital."	Mar 15 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org \| Tom Cotton Alarmed That The Capital Of Iran Is Controlled By Iran \| ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/jx1a0 ]		Mar 15 19:37
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msb_	cubexyz: I'm watching Three	Mar 15 21:11
msb_	Days of the Condor (1975) and there's an old DEC computer in it -- I think a PDP-8. Two DECtapes.	Mar 15 21:13
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MinceR	https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8460256768/hB06A2542/	Mar 15 22:37
XRevan86	MinceR: Seems legit.	Mar 15 22:39
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/modalthetortois/status/577227051070926849	Mar 16 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@modalthetortois: “@paulhindes: @CharJanis RT @schestowitz: Looking Up Symptoms Online? These Companies Are Tracking You http://t.co/gA3JAz0aYt bad, so bad.		Mar 16 00:55
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chinahand/status/577215753914445824	Mar 16 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chinahand: @schestowitz @Thomas_Drake1 Don't know if there's a meaningful Kasperskey-Russia-Snowden link but I'm surprised it hasn't been asserted yet		Mar 16 00:55
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chinahand/status/577215753914445824?cn=cmVwbHk%3D	Mar 16 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chinahand: @schestowitz @Thomas_Drake1 Don't know if there's a meaningful Kasperskey-Russia-Snowden link but I'm surprised it hasn't been asserted yet		Mar 16 01:11
MinceR	gn	Mar 16 01:33
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cubexyz	msb_, quite right, it's a PDP-8/E	Mar 16 03:19
cubexyz	the most common PDP-8	Mar 16 03:20
msb_	cubexyz: Thanks!	Mar 16 03:23
msb_	Three Days of the Condor is a great movie!	Mar 16 03:27
msb_	At one point a C	Mar 16 03:28
cubexyz	I did a little bit of work with OS/8	Mar 16 03:28
cubexyz	also dabbled with DECSYS-7	Mar 16 03:28
msb_	At one point a CIA guy says it's ridiculous to think the US would invade the Middle East.	Mar 16 03:29
cubexyz	does Iraq count? :)	Mar 16 03:29
msb_	Maybe it was in 1975, but the US did it in 1990.	Mar 16 03:30
msb_	And again in 2001.	Mar 16 03:30
cubexyz	did you know Saddam banned mobile phones?	Mar 16 03:31
cubexyz	punishment could be death	Mar 16 03:31
msb_	Why?	Mar 16 03:31
cubexyz	no idea	Mar 16 03:31
msb_	The US murdered several million Iraquis in various attacks.	Mar 16 03:32
msb_	They never did anything to us.	Mar 16 03:32
msb_	The US sent its ambassador to Saddam and asked him to help stop Kuwait from pumping so much oil, which was lowering the price and costing Texas money.	Mar 16 03:35
msb_	So he did -- stopped Kuwait from slant-drilling under the boarder and stealing and selling Iraqui oil.	Mar 16 03:36
cubexyz	sounds like a good thing	Mar 16 03:36
msb_	The US responded by attacking Iraq and murdering millions.	Mar 16 03:36
cubexyz	didn't Saddam invade Kuwait though?	Mar 16 03:38
msb_	Yes, upon the secret request of US President GHW Bush.	Mar 16 03:38
msb_	The US govt is run by psychopaths.	Mar 16 03:40
cubexyz	at least the electric car seems to be gaining ground	Mar 16 03:40
cubexyz	so maybe in the future there won't be these battles over oil	Mar 16 03:40
msb_	Murder for profit is their primary principle of operation.	Mar 16 03:40
msb_	But the weapons companies will still want their huge profits.	Mar 16 03:41
msb_	so they will find something else to make war over.	Mar 16 03:41
msb_	It really is that simple.	Mar 16 03:42
msb_	They can make billions of dollars by murdering millions of innocent people.	Mar 16 03:43
msb_	And they do it. Because they are psychopaths, totally lacking in empathy.	Mar 16 03:43
cubexyz	want a good laugh? There's a video with Bill Gates explaining "how to fix Capitalism"	Mar 16 03:43
cubexyz	it got big negative feedback	Mar 16 03:44
msb_	Step one: get rid of Bill Gates.	Mar 16 03:44
cubexyz	no argument there	Mar 16 03:44
msb_	That is humanity's problem. Psychopaths have gradually learned to organize together, and are enriching themselves by destroying people and the planet.	Mar 16 03:46
msb_	The only way we can survive is to learn about psychopaths and what they do, learn to recognize them and get them out of power, and -- most difficult -- learn to recognize the psychopath behaviors and beliefs that have become embedded in our culture and economics:	Mar 16 03:49
msb_	The vindictive sky-god of the JCI religions. Unregulated competition in economics.	Mar 16 03:50
msb_	Patriotism -- the idea that "our" people are superior to all others and we have the right to rob and murder them.	Mar 16 03:51
msb_	Male supremacy.	Mar 16 03:52
msb_	Genital mutilation.	Mar 16 03:52
msb_	All these social principles program normal people into becoming psychopaths.	Mar 16 03:53
msb_	Programming not to think.	Mar 16 03:54
msb_	Banning of psychedelics and encouragement to use alcohol.	Mar 16 03:54
msb_	Assigning ranks to people with the higher ones given the ability to control and exploit those below them.	Mar 16 03:56
msb_	Psychopaths have learned how to get themselves into the highest ranks of the domination/control pyramid.	Mar 16 03:56
msb_	Acceptance of wildly disparate wealth distribution.	Mar 16 03:58
msb_	Belief that that is morally right.	Mar 16 03:58
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msb_	Unceasing corporate broadcasting of lies that serve the ruling psychopaths.	Mar 16 03:59
msb_	People would be able to resist and overcome any one of these things, or even a few of them.	Mar 16 04:00
msb_	But all of them together have turned people into robot-zombies -- mere consumers and cannon-fodder.	Mar 16 04:01
msb_	Unless people can wake up and become aware of the psychopaths and their cultural/economic infiltration/permeation, we will be doomed.	Mar 16 04:03
msb_	Even science has been distorted. People who expose the injury caused by many vaccines, and by GMO food (poisoned with glyphosate and Bt toxin), and the suppression of the efficacy of Vitamin	Mar 16 04:08
msb_	Even science has been distorted. People who expose the injury caused by many vaccines, and by GMO food (poisoned with glyphosate and Bt toxin), and the suppression of the efficacy of Vitamin C, and the obvious demolition of the WTC by explosives.	Mar 16 04:09
msb_	Such people are smeared as "conspiracy theorists" instead of the truth-tellers that they are.	Mar 16 04:10
msb_	I just found out today that dandelion root is another apoptosis promoter, and so a universal anticancer substance, like the others listed here: http://cosmicpenguin.com/cancer/	Mar 16 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Cancer -- New Natural Remedies!		Mar 16 04:13
msb_	Oh Wow! That's how Cannabis cures cancer also! Google-advanced for CBD apoptosis.	Mar 16 04:18
msb_	Cannabidiol induces apoptosis in glioma, breast cancer, leukemia, pancreatic tumors, prostate and colon cancer...!	Mar 16 04:20
msb_	We now know how to remedy virtually all cancers and all viral infections, using substances that are harmless to normal cells and tissues.	Mar 16 04:23
msb_	And these remedial substances don't even need genetic engineering or any other kind of high tech.	Mar 16 04:26
msb_	Except for manufacturing large amounts of Vitamin	Mar 16 04:27
msb_	Except for manufacturing large amounts of Vitamin C: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascorbic_acid#Industrial_preparation	Mar 16 04:27
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msb_	Which is still so cheap you can buy it for $10 a pound.	Mar 16 04:28
msb_	All the other substances just grow in the ground.	Mar 16 04:28
cubexyz	just eat lots of oranges	Mar 16 04:36
cubexyz	then you get fibre and vitamin C	Mar 16 04:36
cubexyz	OS/8 could be considered the grandfather of CP/M	Mar 16 04:44
cubexyz	DEC might have ending up becoming the most open company of all time	Mar 16 04:51
cubexyz	we have the engineering drawings for most of the PDP series	Mar 16 04:52
cubexyz	and the source code for most of the DEC operating systems	Mar 16 04:52
cubexyz	I was surprised at how small the PDP-11/05 was	Mar 16 04:54
cubexyz	not much bigger than an IBM AT	Mar 16 04:55
msb_	cubexyz: Oranges are yummy, but they contain only 50 to 80mg of Vitamin C. Most mammals produce up to 70 grams of C per 150lb of body weight if they have a serious viral infection.	Mar 16 04:55
cubexyz	I remember one guy saying almost everyone was deficient in iron	Mar 16 04:56
cubexyz	but those multi-vitamin pills with iron tasted gross	Mar 16 04:57
msb_	cubexyz: People need that much to fight off a a serious viral infection too, but that would require eating 1,000 oranges per day.	Mar 16 04:57
cubexyz	msb_, what if you're not infected with a virus? How much vitamin C do you need then?	Mar 16 04:57
msb_	A few oranges a day is only enough to prevent scurvy.	Mar 16 04:58
cubexyz	I think the daily recommended intake for vitamin C is 65 to 90 mg per day	Mar 16 04:58
cubexyz	I'm no expert though	Mar 16 04:59
msb_	cubexyz: 5 to 10 grams/day is good. A rounded teaspoon of ascorbic acid powder in a cup of water with a saccharin tablet once or twice a day will do it nicely, and tastes good.	Mar 16 04:59
msb_	Rinse your mouth afterward with a little baking soda or Mg	Mar 16 05:00
msb_	Rinse your mouth afterward with a little baking soda (don't swallow) or MgCO3 in water (good to swallow) so the Vit C doesn't etch your teeth.	Mar 16 05:01
cubexyz	wow, 10 grams seems like a lot	Mar 16 05:01
msb_	The RDA is designed to prevent people from knowing about the normal amounts of C in mammals, and to maintain the profits of Big Pharma for vaccines and flu symptom reliever drugs.	Mar 16 05:02
msb_	cubexyz: No. The govt is lying to us.	Mar 16 05:02
msb_	Healthy mammals of human body weight produce 4 to 10 grams of C per day. They need it, and so do we.	Mar 16 05:03
msb_	http://www.whale.to/a/stone1979b.html	Mar 16 05:05
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cubexyz	yes, I see an adult goat produces 13 grams per day	Mar 16 05:06
msb_	cubexyz: If you believe the govt and Big Pharma, you will end up being a lot less healthy than a goat.	Mar 16 05:06
cubexyz	I don't trust Big Pharma at all :)	Mar 16 05:08
cubexyz	Johnson & Johnson sold pills that did nothing	Mar 16 05:08
msb_	Vit. C was used to easily cure polio in the late 1940s.	Mar 16 05:09
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/4-Origin_Of_Vitamin_C_Treatment_For_Polio-Klenner.html	Mar 16 05:09
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msb_	But the information was suppressed and we were given the Salk and Sabin vaccines, both of which contained the SV-40 cancer virus.	Mar 16 05:10
cubexyz	no one can really suppress information these days	Mar 16 05:11
cubexyz	but back in the 1940s I bet they could	Mar 16 05:11
msb_	They still can unless knowledgeable people make a strong effort to spread the info widely.	Mar 16 05:11
msb_	Otherwise the psychopaths simply overwhelm the truth by sheer volume of lies.	Mar 16 05:12
msb_	All of the TV, radio, newspaper, and magazine news lies about these things. And that's where most people get their information and world-view.	Mar 16 05:13
cubexyz	yes the "news" on tv is just a business for profit	Mar 16 05:16
cubexyz	it's not good	Mar 16 05:16
msb_	You and I are citizens of Cyberspace, but most people are not.	Mar 16 05:17
msb_	https://projects.eff.org/~barlow/Declaration-Final.html	Mar 16 05:17
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msb_	We should constantly tell people about news sites like these: http://globalresearch.ca/ http://journal-neo.org/	Mar 16 05:20
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msb_	cubexyz: It's just a guess, but I think the 9/11 and subsequent false-flag attacks were done as an excuse for fascist militarization of the world, to _fight against_ humanity's increased communication ability via the Net.	Mar 16 05:44
msb_	That's why the organized psychopaths started their War of Terror in the new Millennium.	Mar 16 05:45
msb_	We're told to accept censorship and surveillance because: "Don't you know there's a war on?"	Mar 16 05:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/ZKW4XM5HVU	Mar 16 05:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/ZeLzIAS90A	Mar 16 05:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/u2w1DvBEOF	Mar 16 05:53
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cubexyz	http://www.nationofchange.org/bill-gates-dodges-questions-why-he-owns-500000-shares-monsanto-1360684583	Mar 16 06:57
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cubexyz	the sad truth:	Mar 16 07:00
cubexyz	you correctly point out that computers are full of toxic substances, and yet do not admonish a man more responsible than most for their proliferation across the globe. Don't forget that the mining and manufacturing processes for computer chips and other components leave and spread socio-enviro-political debris. Talk about poisoning the environment.	Mar 16 07:00
cubexyz	That's the reason why I advocate reuse and repair of old computers	Mar 16 07:01
cubexyz	Our society is unbelieveably wasteful	Mar 16 07:03
cubexyz	this book is small enough... may as well share it:	Mar 16 07:06
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/the-waste-makers-vance-packard.pdf	Mar 16 07:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Thoughts on using Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition	Mar 16 08:04
TweetTuxMachines	17.1 http://t.co/t22pjyh1L3	Mar 16 08:04
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schestowitz	> It's a very negative depiction of open source in mainstream	Mar 16 10:25
schestowitz	> entertainment, akin to this one:	Mar 16 10:25
schestowitz	>	Mar 16 10:25
schestowitz	> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/20/disney_sitcom_open_source_insecure/	Mar 16 10:25
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schestowitz	Ah, yes, I didn't read into it. To be fair, the term comes from intel'	Mar 16 10:25
schestowitz	>>> http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/03/13/state-dept-shuts-down-parts-of-unclassified-computer-network	Mar 16 10:25
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schestowitz	>>> >>	Mar 16 10:25
schestowitz	>>> >> -	Mar 16 10:25
schestowitz	>>> >>	Mar 16 10:25
schestowitz	>>> >> http://abcnews.go.com/US/state-dept-shuts-email-cyber-attack/story?id=29624866	Mar 16 10:25
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schestowitz	>>> >>	Mar 16 10:25
schestowitz	>>> >> still not running... aren't these the ones that have been up and down	Mar 16 10:25
schestowitz	>>> >> for ages?	Mar 16 10:25
schestowitz	>> >	Mar 16 10:25
schestowitz	>> > Any reports about prior issues?	Mar 16 10:26
schestowitz	> Yes, as far as I recall those are the same ones that have been	Mar 16 10:26
schestowitz	> constantly cracked and/or down for several months (or years).	Mar 16 10:26
schestowitz	Will help pass the new 'cyber' laws...	Mar 16 10:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle adds secure-ish boot support to its	Mar 16 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	Linux distro http://t.co/tx9RtZlrrE	Mar 16 10:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle adds secure-ish boot support to its	Mar 16 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	Linux distro http://t.co/lKTUypscVb	Mar 16 10:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First-person Puzzler Parallax - Game No. 1000	Mar 16 10:42
TweetTuxMachines	On Steam For Linux https://t.co/OBRKXE5c8B	Mar 16 10:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bundle Stars 'Crimson Bundle' Has 5 Linux Games	Mar 16 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	For Cheap https://t.co/DpUbtn6oAt	Mar 16 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Mar 16 10:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines March 13 Update for Manjaro Linux 0.8.12 Brings	Mar 16 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	the Xfce 4.12 Desktop Environment	Mar 16 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zfpndjZkyK (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 10:46
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msb_	The entire episode of the anti-OpenSource Disney show can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHC07tqCSqg	Mar 16 11:47
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msb_	Downloaded with youtube-dl, the offensive scene begins at about 620seconds into the show. The open-source virus threatens to wreck all the computers in Tokyo, and then spread to the whole world.	Mar 16 11:50
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XRevan86	What's the point of making an open-source virus?	Mar 16 11:52
XRevan86	"Guys, you all can contribute to my open-source virus!"	Mar 16 11:52
cubexyz	maybe they uploaded the virus using a 3d unix gui :)	Mar 16 11:53
cubexyz	you can't expect these brainless shows to get anything right	Mar 16 11:53
msb_	The virus is said to be "hidden" in "open-source code".	Mar 16 11:54
XRevan86	msb_: As a regular expression? :D	Mar 16 11:55
XRevan86	reminds me of	Mar 16 11:55
XRevan86	echo "test... test... test..." \| perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=]=>%-{<-\|}<&\|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see'	Mar 16 11:55
XRevan86	(rm -rf /)	Mar 16 11:56
msb_	Maybe it was some early work of Lennart Poettering.	Mar 16 11:56
cubexyz	I think they confused freely available with open source	Mar 16 11:58
cubexyz	and freely available software might have malware	Mar 16 11:59
msb_	The show was aired Aug 17 2012, a 90-minute special.	Mar 16 11:59
cubexyz	Disney even supports Panda3d, which is open source	Mar 16 12:00
cubexyz	it's just badly written dialogue	Mar 16 12:00
msb_	Whoever wrote that dialog got the idea from some propaganda they heard, which no doubt originated from Microsoft.	Mar 16 12:01
cubexyz	possibly	Mar 16 12:02
msb_	MS published plenty of explicitly anti open-source propaganda.	Mar 16 12:02
cubexyz	I can't think of anything very recent	Mar 16 12:02
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html	Mar 16 12:04
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XRevan86	cubexyz: They're in Embrace stage, so what's the point of propaganda?	Mar 16 12:06
XRevan86	now	Mar 16 12:06
msb_	XRevan86: Are you hearing anything definite about Putin's health? Is there anyone else with the courage to resist the American Fascist Empire?	Mar 16 12:07
cubexyz	XRevan86, what era? There was the Get the Facts campaign at Best Buy	Mar 16 12:07
cubexyz	that was definitely FUD	Mar 16 12:07
XRevan86	cubexyz: 2014-2015	Mar 16 12:07
XRevan86	Microsoft ♥ Linux era.	Mar 16 12:08
cubexyz	oh that	Mar 16 12:08
XRevan86	msb_: No, I don't.	Mar 16 12:08
XRevan86	msb_: I don't care either %).	Mar 16 12:08
cubexyz	XRevan86, not sure what the deal is with M$ these days	Mar 16 12:09
msb_	You'll care if the H-bombs start to fall.	Mar 16 12:09
cubexyz	but embrace, extend, extinguish always seems apt	Mar 16 12:09
XRevan86	msb_: meh	Mar 16 12:10
cubexyz	I guess M$ has figured out many ways to make $$$ from Linux so why not say they 'love' it	Mar 16 12:10
cubexyz	Amazon, Google, Openstack all run Linux servers	Mar 16 12:11
XRevan86	cubexyz: They'd make more money by having Linux in /dev/null.	Mar 16 12:13
XRevan86	since they've failed to put Linux into /dev/null, they start to do something else.	Mar 16 12:13
cubexyz	I'd say the Genie is out of the bottle :)	Mar 16 12:13
cubexyz	one Doomsday Scenario was M$ controlling the internet itself	Mar 16 12:15
cubexyz	I'm sure they tried :)	Mar 16 12:15
msb_	cubexyz: The guy who died young a few months after he tried to move some of the root DNS servers out of the US...	Mar 16 12:19
cubexyz	Postel	Mar 16 12:20
msb_	Jon Postel	Mar 16 12:21
cubexyz	Stallman has health problems too	Mar 16 12:22
cubexyz	the result no doubt of an overly sendentary lifestyle	Mar 16 12:23
msb_	It's just a "conspiracy theory" that the ruling psychopaths who murder millions would attack the people who dare to oppose them.	Mar 16 12:23
cubexyz	that's why I'm trying to exercise more :)	Mar 16 12:23
cubexyz	I don't doubt that the pressure he was under accelerated his demise	Mar 16 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How this Australian university turned IT	Mar 16 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	management around with Red Hat	Mar 16 12:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sIfxy7msoc (www.futuregov.asia)	Mar 16 12:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines March 13 Update for Manjaro Linux 0.8.12 Brings	Mar 16 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	the Xfce 4.12 Desktop Environment	Mar 16 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/x8qDpXkguA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 12:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines German Greens ask Foreign Affairs to amend way	Mar 16 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/m3uUOrFb6x (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 12:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview with Abbigail Ward	Mar 16 12:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Krita 2.9.1 Released http://t.co/9IJMKXkDr1	Mar 16 12:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VMware wants amicable end to 'meritless'	Mar 16 12:32
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-lifting lawsuit http://t.co/76IsqRvENU	Mar 16 12:32
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cubexyz	chromebooks finally have carved out a good chunk of the market	Mar 16 12:44
cubexyz	where Be, Amiga and IBM failed, Google has succeeded	Mar 16 12:45
cubexyz	there's quite a list of OEMs making Chromebooks now: Samsung, ASUS, Toshiba, Acer, Lenovo, Dell and HP	Mar 16 12:50
msb_	cubexyz: According to wikipedia, chromebooks are thin clients that are designed to operate connected to the Net, and use apps from a google cloud which the user pays for. Is that right?	Mar 16 12:55
cubexyz	msb_, well that's true out of the box but you can put a linux distro on it if you want	Mar 16 12:56
cubexyz	msb_, I don't know about any extra fees for the google cloud, I'll have to check that	Mar 16 12:56
msb_	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_Web_Store	Mar 16 12:58
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cubexyz	I think the deal is 15 gigs for free, and you can get 100 gigs for $1.99 per month	Mar 16 12:59
cubexyz	my main reason for liking chromebooks was the FOSS firmware	Mar 16 13:00
msb_	cubexyz: that's cloud space for storing your data?	Mar 16 13:00
cubexyz	msb_, yes	Mar 16 13:00
msb_	How much disk or SSD do they have?	Mar 16 13:01
cubexyz	usually 16 gigs	Mar 16 13:01
msb_	wowie	Mar 16 13:02
msb_	looks like they're mainly designed to be an ongoing source of profit for Google	Mar 16 13:02
msb_	I guess you can load Linux on it and connect it to an external disk drive via USB	Mar 16 13:04
cubexyz	you can get 256GB ssd's for it	Mar 16 13:04
cubexyz	the other obvious advantage is no microsoft tax	Mar 16 13:09
msb_	what price for the 256GB ssd's ?	Mar 16 13:12
cubexyz	Microsoft forced Hitachi to hide the BeOS partition on the Hitachi Flora Prius (late 1990s), so Chromebooks are huge progress	Mar 16 13:12
cubexyz	around $115, maybe less in the US	Mar 16 13:13
msb_	Computers should be sold with bios that simply does not permit mswindows to be loaded. That would fix the tax problem.	Mar 16 13:14
cubexyz	msb_, there is such a BIOS, Lemote's PMON	Mar 16 13:14
cubexyz	the problem is no one sells Lemote in North America	Mar 16 13:15
msb_	Gee I wonder why	Mar 16 13:15
msb_	cubexyz: did you watch _Antitrust_ ?	Mar 16 13:17
cubexyz	not yet	Mar 16 13:17
cubexyz	there's this site, but everyone seems to be low on stock:	Mar 16 13:21
cubexyz	http://www.freedomincluded.com/	Mar 16 13:21
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XRevan86	Who knows what seems to be the problem in Brazil?	Mar 16 13:56
XRevan86	(not the movie)	Mar 16 13:56
cubexyz	Stallman had his laptop stolen in Argentina back in 2012	Mar 16 14:11
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DaemonFC	http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/people-who-use-firefox-or-chrome-are-better-employees/387781/?utm_source=SFFB	Mar 16 14:28
DaemonFC	A new study shows why you may want to fill out job applications using Chrome or Firefox.	Mar 16 14:28
DaemonFC	Users of Internet Explorer and Safari were found to be less productive and more likely to quit their jobs sooner.	Mar 16 14:28
DaemonFC	Said the article,	Mar 16 14:28
DaemonFC	"Cornerstone OnDemand, a company that sells software that helps employers recruit and retain workers, analyzed data on about 50,000 people who took its 45-minute online job assessment (which is like a thorough personality test) and then were successfully hired at a firm using its software. These candidates ended up working customer-service and sales jobs for companies in industries such as telecommunications, retail, and hospitality.	Mar 16 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com \| People Who Use Firefox or Chrome Are Better Employees — The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/jx64k ]		Mar 16 14:28
DaemonFC	Cornerstone's researchers found that people who took the test on a non-default browser, such as Firefox or Chrome, ended up staying at their jobs about 15 percent longer than those who stuck with Safari or Internet Explorer. They performed better on the job as well. (These statistics were roughly the same for both Mac and PC users.)"	Mar 16 14:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@rmsthebot @tuxmachines Please say GNU/Linux or GNU+Linux	Mar 16 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	!	Mar 16 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx69h	Mar 16 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Xfce 0.9.0 Promises to Bring the	Mar 16 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	Best Xfce 4.12 Experience Possible	Mar 16 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aUNchABbHV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx69l	Mar 16 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Linux Xfce 0.9.0 Promises to Bring the Best Xfce 4.12 Experience Possible \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM teams with BlackBerry and Samsung to offer	Mar 16 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	governments a secure Android tablet	Mar 16 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qfGCg2qnYh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx69r	Mar 16 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IBM teams with BlackBerry and Samsung to offer governments a secure Android tablet \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Themes Of The Day http://t.co/f10HxUf0Ll	Mar 16 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx69y	Mar 16 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Themes Of The Day \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever to	Mar 16 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	Just Do Stuff http://t.co/MdBIOWsSv3	Mar 16 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx69z	Mar 16 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever to Just Do Stuff \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Feds look to developers to improve big data,	Mar 16 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	open source projects http://t.co/ZLiuaaXIDT	Mar 16 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 14:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx6a5	Mar 16 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Feds look to developers to improve big data, open source projects \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 14:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chakra 2015.03 Screenshot Tour	Mar 16 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/dhYsRGcP85 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx6xg	Mar 16 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Chakra 2015.03 Screenshot Tour \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Software Fuels a Revolution in Data	Mar 16 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	Science http://t.co/y11jM8s4Tl	Mar 16 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx6xh	Mar 16 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open Source Software Fuels a Revolution in Data Science \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Dell's Ubuntu-powered M3800 Mobile	Mar 16 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	Workstation is a desktop destroyer	Mar 16 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TGUxCHoGrk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 16:45
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx6xj	Mar 16 16:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Review: Dell's Ubuntu-powered M3800 Mobile Workstation is a desktop destroyer \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 16:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google rolls out Android 5.1: Five new features	Mar 16 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TU9zvFYGkV	Mar 16 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	(timesofindia.indiatimes.com)	Mar 16 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofindia.indiatimes.com \| Google rolls out Android 5.1: Five new features- The Times of India		Mar 16 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx77d	Mar 16 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.0-rc4 http://t.co/zGgwzR71gx (lwn.net)	Mar 16 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9296XkEMj3 (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| Linux 4.0-rc4 [LWN.net]		Mar 16 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx77f	Mar 16 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC4 with ARM Changes and Updated Drivers - Softpedia		Mar 16 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Krita 2.9.1 Released https://t.co/sNljWNgfQo	Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	(krita.org)	Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx79h	Mar 16 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org \| Krita 2.9.1 Released \| Krita		Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ownCloud Client 1.8 Will Bring HIDPI, Qt 5.4,	Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	and Desktop Sharing Support	Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Eo7oHLmjPE (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx79i	Mar 16 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| ownCloud Client 1.8 Will Bring HIDPI, Qt 5.4, and Desktop Sharing Support - Softpedia		Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #Qomp Simple & Easy Music Player Reaches	Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	Version 0.8 http://t.co/EoP3KXXT4v	Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxarena.com)	Mar 16 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxarena.com \| Qomp Simple & Easy Music Player Reaches Version 0.8 \| TuxArena		Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx79j	Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines apt install dpl-candidate: Neil McGovern	Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zjhFdGD2Zk (bits.debian.org)	Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	"involved with Debian for over 10 years now."	Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx79k	Mar 16 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bits.debian.org \| Bits from Debian - apt install dpl-candidate: Neil McGovern		Mar 16 17:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview with Abbigail Ward	Mar 16 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/n0fmCmi1fK (krita.org)	Mar 16 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7ao	Mar 16 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org \| Interview with Abbigail Ward \| Krita		Mar 16 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VMware wants amicable end to 'meritless'	Mar 16 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-lifting lawsuit http://t.co/3bIzedjY2b	Mar 16 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Mar 16 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| VMware wants amicable end to 'meritless' Linux-lifting lawsuit • The Register		Mar 16 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7ap	Mar 16 17:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Robolinux 7.8.3 Released with Five Powerful	Mar 16 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	Privacy and Security Applications	Mar 16 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Tyos50695O (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7ar	Mar 16 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Robolinux 7.8.3 Released with Five Powerful Privacy and Security Applications - Softpedia		Mar 16 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Xfce 0.9.0 Promises to Bring the	Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	Best Xfce 4.12 Experience Possible	Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vslzFH2jj7 (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7c2	Mar 16 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Manjaro Linux Xfce 0.9.0 Promises to Bring the Best Xfce 4.12 Experience Possible - Softpedia		Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM teams with BlackBerry and Samsung to offer	Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	governments a secure Android tablet	Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oxzYqoHrnF (www.infoworld.com)	Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7c3	Mar 16 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| IBM teams with BlackBerry and Samsung to offer governments a secure Android tablet \| InfoWorld		Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever to	Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	Just Do Stuff http://t.co/tFS7s4Q5qm	Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7c4	Mar 16 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever to Just Do Stuff \| Linux.com		Mar 16 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Dell's Ubuntu-powered M3800 Mobile	Mar 16 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	Workstation is a desktop destroyer	Mar 16 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OogbPcKgXs (www.networkworld.com)	Mar 16 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7d0	Mar 16 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Review: Dell's Ubuntu-powered M3800 Mobile Workstation		Mar 16 17:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Building a pre-release Linux testbed with	Mar 16 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	openSuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, and more	Mar 16 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nfUD3EFi2J (www.zdnet.com)	Mar 16 17:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7d1	Mar 16 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Building a pre-release Linux testbed with openSuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, and more \| ZDNet		Mar 16 17:52
*TweetTuxMachines @StephDAVOS favourited 'Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever...'		Mar 16 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Meet Blueberry, Linux Mint’s New Bluetooth	Mar 16 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	Setup Tool http://t.co/iGRCNBomt0	Mar 16 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Mar 16 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Meet Blueberry, Linux Mint's New Bluetooth Setup Tool - OMG! Ubuntu!		Mar 16 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7jf	Mar 16 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Building a pre-release Linux testbed with	Mar 16 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	openSuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, and more	Mar 16 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6CTYXVUmJB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 18:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7jg	Mar 16 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Building a pre-release Linux testbed with openSuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, and more \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 18:21
MinceR	http://media.tumblr.com/22e73dcca91af3915feb2b609a4fb891/tumblr_inline_nlb17igDw31t63ajm.jpg	Mar 16 18:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Preview of GNOME usability results	Mar 16 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZYAqnKjZJS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7u7	Mar 16 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Preview of GNOME usability results \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha LXDE Screenshot Tour	Mar 16 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LwlTKoQKL9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7u8	Mar 16 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 22 Alpha LXDE Screenshot Tour \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet Default Wallpaper	Mar 16 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	Revealed http://t.co/ovxauGsiXH	Mar 16 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.webupd8.org)	Mar 16 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org \| Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet Default Wallpaper Revealed ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog		Mar 16 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7ua	Mar 16 19:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Macaw-Movies is a movie collection manager. It	Mar 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	is now about to be in the KDE Family!"	Mar 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ci3WN3jhHb	Mar 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	(macawmovies.wordpress.com)	Mar 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx8cr	Mar 16 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-macawmovies.wordpress.com \| Macaw-Movies in the KDE incubator \| Macaw-Movies		Mar 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 9 Quirky Linux Commands You Need to Know (And	Mar 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	Will Love)	Mar 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/S1FFeZMyN2 (www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx8cs	Mar 16 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| 9 Quirky Linux Commands You Need to Know (And Will Love)		Mar 16 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines We need open data to become the new open source	Mar 16 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0nh6mtfc28 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx8ct	Mar 16 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| We need open data to become the new open source \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 20:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines We need open data to become the new open source	Mar 16 23:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@voidquest44	Mar 16 23:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx932	Mar 16 23:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evince 3.14.2 Is an Important Bugfix Update for	Mar 17 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME 3.14 http://t.co/PDoJPKsrRX	Mar 17 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 05:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Evince 3.14.2 Is an Important Bugfix Update for GNOME 3.14 - Softpedia		Mar 17 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxai2	Mar 17 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Spec Ops: The Line Looks Like It's Coming To	Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/JlxVWqoZ1C	Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxali	Mar 17 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Spec Ops: The Line Looks Like It's Coming To Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OnlyOffice Another Free Office Suite for Linux	Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	(Complete Selfhost Office Solution - OwnCloud	Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	Compatible) http://t.co/5GcOfvbki2	Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxalk	Mar 17 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OnlyOffice Another Free Office Suite for Linux (Complete Selfhost Office Solution - OwnCloud Compatible) \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Scientific Alpha	Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/syg9peUIPX (echorand.me)	Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxall	Mar 17 05:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-echorand.me \| Fedora 22 Scientific Alpha \| Programming and writing about it.		Mar 17 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 free Android apps that are worth checking	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	out http://t.co/oPUMcp5Cal	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techrepublic.com) using material design:	Mar 17 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| 10 free Android apps that are worth checking out - TechRepublic		Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vlqgA2Q5sM (thenextweb.com)	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxaqz	Mar 17 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com \| The 15 best Android apps that use material design		Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pre-Sequel Claptastic Voyage DLC for	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Also Launches in	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	Linux	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/a45qWGZLoG (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar0	Mar 17 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Pre-Sequel Claptastic Voyage DLC for Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Also Launches in Linux - Softpedia		Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Design Suite 22 Alpha	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HVEWfT5UJj (blog.thefinalzone.net)	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	"Gimp (Gmic), Inkscape (support of making	Mar 17 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.thefinalzone.net \| The Final Zone project: Fedora Design Suite 22 Alpha		Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	tables) and Blender (LuxRender)"	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar1	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DOV5X3z7iX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar2	Mar 17 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple Watch app development pales in comparison	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	to Android Wear http://t.co/0uJI9jeKAN	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar3	Mar 17 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Apple Watch app development pales in comparison to Android Wear \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny SBC runs Android and Linux on Snapdragon	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	410 http://t.co/cX7VyMgoo6	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar4	Mar 17 06:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux	Mar 17 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	support http://t.co/GGfPNOZzJL	Mar 17 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxark	Mar 17 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux support \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Flavours http://t.co/28P3bGU42s	Mar 17 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxarl	Mar 17 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora Flavours \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Check out what’s on Jon’s Android tablet	Mar 17 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lteObp5Stk (www.technobuffalo.com)	Mar 17 06:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxarm	Mar 17 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com \| Check out what's on Jon's Android tablet \| TechnoBuffalo		Mar 17 06:38
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/577719344295120896	Mar 17 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: It's not only #systemd 😉 ♺ @schestowitz The sad state of #sysadmin in the age of containers http://t.co/gJeEY7qlwD #GNU/#Linux #docker #NSA		Mar 17 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.vitavonni.de \| The sad state of sysadmin in the age of containers		Mar 17 06:40
schestowitz	rPath came from Red Hat	Mar 17 06:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Featured: Top 10 Best Games For Android – March	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	2015 Edition http://t.co/yZeHHftDGt	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Mar 17 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com \| Featured: Top 10 Best Games For Android - March 2015 Edition \| Androidheadlines.com		Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxax7	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	Challenges http://t.co/x4U1kmeCYk	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxax8	Mar 17 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling Challenges \| Linux.com		Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	Challenges http://t.co/zQQp8ZEoXK	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxax9	Mar 17 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling Challenges \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Customer Service and Open Source Software: A	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	Budding Relationship http://t.co/nQ9mYzXujP	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxaxb	Mar 17 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Customer Service and Open Source Software: A Budding Relationship \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Strange Bedfellows and Linux Reviews	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AxcnUFkrmx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 07:22
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxaxe	Mar 17 07:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Strange Bedfellows and Linux Reviews \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 07:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.4.2 Release Candidate 1 Is Now	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	Available for Download http://t.co/dETYUukXoh	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb46	Mar 17 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.4.2 Release Candidate 1 Is Now Available for Download \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PTSqt1t31R (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb48	Mar 17 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1 and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 17/3/2015: Linux 4.0 RC4, Calligra and	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	Krita 2.9.1 Released http://t.co/K8Ozbu0Ui2	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb49	Mar 17 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 17/3/2015: Linux 4.0 RC4, Calligra and Krita 2.9.1 Released \| Techrights		Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines An open source software updating tool	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Pr7j79KeO5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb4a	Mar 17 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| An open source software updating tool \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/25g2op9aAD	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb4b	Mar 17 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/nbQCKE9rBc	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:07
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb4c	Mar 17 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop	Mar 17 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jpNQQu5RU4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb6r	Mar 17 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released,	Mar 17 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	Here’s What’s New - Gallery	Mar 17 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JLVmmr8pV7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb6s	Mar 17 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released, Here’s What’s New - Gallery \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released,	Mar 17 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	Here’s What’s New - Gallery	Mar 17 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rLlw8Cwb9Q (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb6t	Mar 17 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released, Here’s What’s New - Gallery - Softpedia		Mar 17 08:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop	Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/V8ewCcUz2f (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8t	Mar 17 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop - Softpedia		Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1	Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour	Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/47HApQnRXq (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8u	Mar 17 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1 and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 17 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat 7.1 is here, CentOS 7.1 coming soon	Mar 17 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/MmX6MZtWAS (www.zdnet.com)	Mar 17 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8v	Mar 17 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat 7.1 is here, CentOS 7.1 coming soon \| ZDNet		Mar 17 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MIPS Creator CI20 v Raspberry Pi 2	Mar 17 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7jGcnbEN76 (www.linuxlinks.com)	Mar 17 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8w	Mar 17 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com \| MIPS Creator CI20 v Raspberry Pi 2 - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site		Mar 17 08:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Seamonkey review: Firefox’s lightweight	Mar 17 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	hyper-functional cousin http://t.co/Wr7K3wifNy	Mar 17 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxveda.com)	Mar 17 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| Seamonkey review: Firefox's lightweight hyper-functional cousin - Linux Veda		Mar 17 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb9a	Mar 17 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux	Mar 17 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	support http://t.co/7b5Qq1U87K	Mar 17 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Mar 17 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux support · LinuxGizmos.com		Mar 17 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb9c	Mar 17 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny SBC runs Android and Linux on Snapdragon	Mar 17 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	410 http://t.co/SSYBIkRiFr (linuxgizmos.com)	Mar 17 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbbf	Mar 17 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Tiny SBC runs Android and Linux on Snapdragon 410 · LinuxGizmos.com		Mar 17 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple Watch app development pales in comparison	Mar 17 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	to Android Wear http://t.co/lyJgJUW9gn	Mar 17 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.networkworld.com)	Mar 17 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Apple Watch app development pales in comparison to Android Wear		Mar 17 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbbg	Mar 17 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks	Mar 17 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/dxkMorQwMH (arstechnica.com)	Mar 17 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbbh	Mar 17 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks \| Ars Technica		Mar 17 08:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Preview of GNOME usability results	Mar 17 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5E4JkUxc5p	Mar 17 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	(opensource-usability.blogspot.co.uk)	Mar 17 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource-usability.blogspot.co.uk \| Open Source Software & Usability: Preview of GNOME usability results		Mar 17 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbcj	Mar 17 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha LXDE Screenshot Tour	Mar 17 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/P7dT7yK0EA (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbck	Mar 17 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Fedora 22 Alpha LXDE Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 17 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Best Android Phones [March, 2015]	Mar 17 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0T7XfYJAMT (www.gottabemobile.com)	Mar 17 08:44
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbcl	Mar 17 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com \| 5 Best Android Phones [March, 2015]		Mar 17 08:44
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5773885	Mar 17 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So-called Jihadi John: "MI5 had approached him... to work as an agent for them." -former MI5 agent http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2015/02/jihadi-john-and-mi5.html		Mar 17 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> anniemachon.ch \| Jihadi John and MI5 - Using Our Intelligence [ http://ur1.ca/jxbdf ]		Mar 17 08:49
schestowitz	"Same old routine- same with the Boston bombers, the Lee Rigby killers etc. For some reason people generally seem unable to join the dots"	Mar 17 08:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME's Virtual Filesystem Updated for GNOME	Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	3.16, Obsolete ObexFTP Code Removed	Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KFitZbpwLg (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbf2	Mar 17 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| GNOME's Virtual Filesystem Updated for GNOME 3.16, Obsolete ObexFTP Code Removed - Softpedia		Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb	Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	Choice for Running Linux in the Cloud	Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nqn5VNHakt (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbf4	Mar 17 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb Choice for Running Linux in the Cloud - Softpedia		Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma	Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	5.0 Desktop http://t.co/Wu15Ofgz8r	Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.hecticgeek.com)	Mar 17 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hecticgeek.com \| KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma 5.0 Desktop		Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbf6	Mar 17 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Impressions of Ubuntu MATE 14.10	Mar 17 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KXZ8GAzXDQ (distrowatch.com)	Mar 17 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbg7	Mar 17 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com \| DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.		Mar 17 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Review: Minimalist distro	Mar 17 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	with superb performance http://t.co/UyiqxDBHF1	Mar 17 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	(mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk)	Mar 17 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk \| Linuxed - Exploring Linux distros: Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Review: Minimalist distro with superb performance		Mar 17 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbg8	Mar 17 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb	Mar 17 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	Choice for Running Linux in the Cloud	Mar 17 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/O7ZaJrAvv9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbga	Mar 17 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb Choice for Running Linux in the Cloud \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines St. Paddy's Day Special: 7 Irish open source	Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	developers http://t.co/MHhLsETcU5	Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbgd	Mar 17 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| St. Paddy's Day Special: 7 Irish open source developers \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma	Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	5.0 Desktop http://t.co/UEQiSCWcMh	Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbge	Mar 17 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma 5.0 Desktop \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Impressions of Ubuntu MATE 14.10	Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iReLKRe5Lt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbgg	Mar 17 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Impressions of Ubuntu MATE 14.10 \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Review: Minimalist distro	Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	with superb performance http://t.co/Iw7qy3VW4K	Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbgh	Mar 17 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Review: Minimalist distro with superb performance \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 09:04
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5773804	Mar 17 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: "It is the secret scandal of capitalism that at no point has it been organised primarily around free labour" - David Graeber, Debt; The First 5000 Years #capitalism #labour #labor #debt #slavery #FreeMarkets		Mar 17 09:20
schestowitz	"Actually, it's just a bit more insidious than that. Because capitalism claims to be organized around free labor."	Mar 17 09:20
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schestowitz	MinceR: when you get the chance please consider sending irc logs for the 4 channels (please ;-))	Mar 17 12:22
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DaemonFC	http://qz.com/290183/in-2014-countries-are-still-paying-off-debt-from-world-war-one/	Mar 17 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com \| In 2014, countries are still paying off debt from World War One – Quartz [ http://ur1.ca/jxd8a ]		Mar 17 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Asian Penguins middle school Linux club	Mar 17 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	inspires community http://t.co/ARDT5lw6XG	Mar 17 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 15:16
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxdff	Mar 17 15:16
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msb_	Highly recommended movies for anyone interested in computers and the future: Transcendent Man (2009) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117394/combined - a documentary about Ray Kurzweil and his idea that since technology builds on the previous levl	Mar 17 18:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| Transcendent Man (2009) [ http://ur1.ca/jxerx ]		Mar 17 18:17
msb_	Highly recommended movies for anyone interested in computers and the future: Transcendent Man (2009) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117394/combined - a documentary about Ray Kurzweil and his idea that since technology builds on the previous level of technology, it grows exponentially, and will lead to an AI or intelligence enhancement for people exceeding all known capabilities by around the year 2050. Kurzweil calls this The	Mar 17 18:19
msb_	Singularity.	Mar 17 18:19
msb_	Transcendence (2014) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2209764/combined - a fictional movie about the Singularity and possible reactions to it. I regard it as a documentary of a possible future.	Mar 17 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| Transcendence (2014/I) [ http://ur1.ca/jxet8 ]		Mar 17 18:22
msb_	I recommend watching the documentary first, and then the fictional treatment. Both may be found in the usual places.	Mar 17 18:24
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MalJayaram/status/577927457279332352	Mar 17 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MalJayaram: @schestowitz @MishiChoudhary @NewYorker Wrote my dissertation on #GNU, #copyleft & #Stallman in 1995. Unsure if I feel old or cutting edge.		Mar 17 20:26
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MishiChoudhary/status/577928522062282752	Mar 17 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MishiChoudhary: @MalJayaram u r avant-garde no doubt no matter the yr! Just be proud of your being one of the super cool kids @schestowitz @NewYorker		Mar 17 20:27
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MalJayaram/status/577929200079769600	Mar 17 20:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MalJayaram: @MishiChoudhary @schestowitz @NewYorker You had me at "kids".		Mar 17 20:31
schestowitz	> Dear Mr. Schestowitz,	Mar 17 20:58
schestowitz	>	Mar 17 20:58
schestowitz	> thanky you very much once again for publishing. In this momment,	Mar 17 20:58
schestowitz	> just for your information, I pass everything to Mrs. Monica	Mar 17 20:58
schestowitz	> Macovei in European Parliament in Bruxelles.	Mar 17 20:58
schestowitz	> I am expecting meeting with her during April/May and opening	Mar 17 20:58
schestowitz	> investigation in case Lufthansa and Zeljko Topic & EPO.	Mar 17 20:58
schestowitz	> During my stay in Bruxelles maybe I will found one day to visit	Mar 17 20:58
schestowitz	> you in London/Manchester with fresh news.	Mar 17 20:58
schestowitz	Thanks for the context in the emails below, which I'll keep private. If you stop by in Manchester, let me know.	Mar 17 20:58
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 20:58
schestowitz	P.S.	Mar 17 20:59
schestowitz	If possible, I would ask you to activate all links (2-3) to web	Mar 17 20:59
schestowitz	sites in my today published response. Thank you...	Mar 17 20:59
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 20:59
schestowitz	I have turned explicit links into words with hypertext/anchor	Mar 17 21:06
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5773626	Mar 17 21:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The biggest privatisation in NHS history: why we had to blow the whistle http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/16/nhs-privatisation-biggest-history-staffordshire-cancer #nhs #uk		Mar 17 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| The biggest privatisation in NHS history: why we had to blow the whistle \| Kate Godfrey \| Comment is free \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jxfw2 ]		Mar 17 21:25
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 21:25
schestowitz	“no more than a blank cheque for whichever private firm is the most ruthlessly willing to cut services to shore up their own profits”	Mar 17 21:25
schestowitz	Someone got what privatizations are about.	Mar 17 21:25
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 21:25
schestowitz	"I had the idea P2P networks were for piracy, but it seems that when a corporation or the government does the same then everything is fine."	Mar 17 21:25
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5773861	Mar 17 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft #windows running "PC will become slower as it will serve the updates to another client." http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/let-users-bear-burden-of-updates-ms.html		Mar 17 21:25
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schestowitz	Law is political	Mar 17 21:25
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MinceR	gn	Mar 18 01:32
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DaemonFC	Apple is offering a trade down program for Android users.	Mar 18 03:34
DaemonFC	You give them your Android phone and they give you an Apple gift card that you can use with one of their phones that bends when you put it in your pocket.	Mar 18 03:34
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5778107	Mar 18 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Fedora 22 Workstation’s new notifications http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-22-workstation-new-notifications/		Mar 18 04:25
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schestowitz	"Not sure about these but can't wait to try them."	Mar 18 04:25
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schestowitz__	MinceR: http://static1.lxdcdn.net/images/max/w/806/66d29dfc7b02aa45862bb8ff8bbbe58c.png	Mar 18 10:18
XRevan86	schestowitz__: Not really.	Mar 18 10:19
MinceR	both are repulsive	Mar 18 10:20
XRevan86	MinceR: Dog like a dog.	Mar 18 10:21
XRevan86	MinceR: You don't like dogs?	Mar 18 10:22
MinceR	i don't	Mar 18 10:22
XRevan86	That explains everything.	Mar 18 10:22
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schestowitz__	> older:	Mar 18 12:03
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 12:03
schestowitz__	> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement&oldid=11098973	Mar 18 12:03
schestowitz__	Would that be of any use to TR?	Mar 18 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meta.wikimedia.org \| Single User Login finalisation announcement - Meta [ http://ur1.ca/jxjzd ]		Mar 18 12:03
schestowitz__	> http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/the-gnu-manifesto-turns-thirty	Mar 18 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newyorker.com \| Richard Stallman’s GNU Manifesto Turns Thirty - The New Yorker [ http://ur1.ca/jxk01 ]		Mar 18 12:07
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 12:07
schestowitz__	> side note: Dr Dobbs sold out, declined and then shut down	Mar 18 12:07
schestowitz__	it was shut down after a Microsoft tool, Binstock, ran it to the ground.	Mar 18 12:07
schestowitz__	> http://video.fosdem.org/2015/devroom-distributions/whats_new_in_systemd,_2015_edition__CAM_ONLY.mp4	Mar 18 12:08
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 12:08
schestowitz__	> :(	Mar 18 12:08
schestowitz__	systemDOS	Mar 18 12:08
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75	Mar 18 12:09
schestowitz__	> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2999878/Snowden-leaks-spies-risk-says-traitor-damaged-intelligence-agencies-world-including-MI5-MI6.html	Mar 18 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk \| Theresa May says Edward Snowden has damaged intelligence agencies across the world \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jxk0n ]		Mar 18 12:12
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 12:12
schestowitz__	> note caption	Mar 18 12:12
schestowitz__	>>> older:	Mar 18 12:19
schestowitz__	>>> >>	Mar 18 12:19
schestowitz__	>>> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement&oldid=11098973	Mar 18 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meta.wikimedia.org \| Single User Login finalisation announcement - Meta [ http://ur1.ca/jxjzd ]		Mar 18 12:19
schestowitz__	>> >	Mar 18 12:19
schestowitz__	>> > Would that be of any use to TR?	Mar 18 12:19
schestowitz__	>> >	Mar 18 12:19
schestowitz__	>> >	Mar 18 12:19
schestowitz__	> Well the separate TR components seem to be using separate login	Mar 18 12:19
schestowitz__	> credentials. It would be useful but I'm not sure the work vs return	Mar 18 12:20
schestowitz__	> makes it any kind of priority.	Mar 18 12:20
schestowitz__	If community role expands (and not trolls/spam), then we can use LDAP. I set it up for other Wikis before.	Mar 18 12:20
MinceR	geekings	Mar 18 13:02
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/rogervycsumbhj/status/578180059531350016	Mar 18 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rogervycsumbhj: @schestowitz The Most Powerful Android Smart Dock EVER Lets You Turn Your Phone Into a Mini Desktop! 1 http://t.co/7NTN3EYUpS		Mar 18 13:07
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MinceR	even works with apple branded samsung mobiles!	Mar 18 13:10
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schestowitz__	ha	Mar 18 13:21
schestowitz__	components	Mar 18 13:21
cubexyz	http://www.sltrib.com/news/2303519-155/its-alive-utah-software-companys-decade-old	Mar 18 13:26
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msb_	I was a Dr Dobbs subscriber. Was shocked when it started running articles about MS-Windows tech. It became useless, then disappeared.	Mar 18 14:44
msb_	The psychopath rulers attack everywhere.	Mar 18 14:45
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cubexyz	we have Linux Format	Mar 18 15:07
cubexyz	I have quite a few old Dr Dobb's issues	Mar 18 15:07
cubexyz	you probably can remember the pre-microsoft era better than most	Mar 18 15:09
cubexyz	I can remember windows articles going back to 1990 and before	Mar 18 15:13
cubexyz	I tested Windows 2.0 at work in 1988 or so	Mar 18 15:13
cubexyz	basically it started as Microsoft's version of Visi On	Mar 18 15:15
cubexyz	the original GUI war was Topview, GEM, X Window System and M$ Windows	Mar 18 15:16
cubexyz	I guess I should include Amiga Workbench and the Atari one also	Mar 18 15:17
cubexyz	we can thank MIT, DEC and IBM for saving us from a Windows only GUI world	Mar 18 15:18
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5780483	Mar 18 15:28
schestowitz__	"The Right is ramping up its rhetoric again for privatizing Social Security here, too."	Mar 18 15:28
schestowitz__	They must be Right	Mar 18 15:28
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lirodon	you know MS is desperate when they even have to give away Windows 10 to pirates	Mar 18 15:41
abeNd-org	as someone who still has to support ms, as well as linux, ill be happy to have everyone rolled over to one desktop platform (still plenty of business/enterprise apps with no linux equiv)	Mar 18 15:58
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MinceR	what will the One Desktop Platform be?	Mar 18 16:23
MinceR	windows? macos? lendows?	Mar 18 16:23
MinceR	or the government-mandated One Platform once they'll require government permits to allow you to even use a computer you can write programs on (while being heavily monitored, of course), while everyone is forced to use locked-down appliances?	Mar 18 16:24
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abeNd-org	win10 for the business/enterprise clients, since so much business/enterprise software is still windows only, at least it wont be a mix of win2000/xp/vista/7/8/8.1. thankfully not too many macs, & 0 linux desktops (plenty of linux servers though)	Mar 18 16:45
MinceR	ah, so you'd force windows on all of us	Mar 18 16:47
abeNd-org	nope	Mar 18 16:47
abeNd-org	where there is linux back ends to enterprise apps, ive used them, but most of the time even those only have windows front ends	Mar 18 16:48
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Anonymous_	Hi Roy, is HMA secure enough for me not to be tracked down using this channel ?	Mar 18 17:00
Anonymous_	All EPO internet in and out traffic routed through 80.81.193.61	Mar 18 17:01
Anonymous_	This IP belongs to moscow based Moscow Telecom Corp or COMCOR	Mar 18 17:02
Anonymous_	COMCOR like Commander of the Corp, old russian army grade.	Mar 18 17:02
Anonymous_	This company presents itself as being specialized in data and trafic analysis.	Mar 18 17:03
Anonymous_	More later...	Mar 18 17:03
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XRevan86	Oh god why	Mar 18 17:11
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XRevan86	Windows 10 will be free for everyone, probably only for a year.	Mar 18 17:11
XRevan86	not only in China	Mar 18 17:11
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782181	Mar 18 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #LEGO Minifigures coming to #gnu #linux or not? https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/lego-minifigures-online-looks-possible-for-linux.5106 http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/lego-minifigures-online-is-not-coming-to-linux-sadly.5111		Mar 18 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com \| LEGO Minifigures Online Looks Possible For Linux \| GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/jxlw1 ]		Mar 18 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com \| LEGO Minifigures Online Is Not Coming To Linux, Sadly \| GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/jxlw2 ]		Mar 18 17:16
schestowitz__	"LEGO Minifigures Online Is Not Coming To Linux, Sadly"	Mar 18 17:17
MinceR	no, it will be gratis	Mar 18 17:23
XRevan86	http://lwn.net/Articles/637120	Mar 18 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| Utah software company’s decade-old suit against IBM revived (SL Tribune) [LWN.net]		Mar 18 17:34
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782170	Mar 18 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: BioShock Infinite Released For Linux, Thanks To Virtual Programming https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/bioshock-infinite-released-for-linux-thanks-to-virtual-programming.5108		Mar 18 17:41
schestowitz__	"What what whaaaaaat?! :D"	Mar 18 17:41
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schestowitz__	Confirmed in other sites too now	Mar 18 17:41
abeNd-org	so when will blizzard officially support linux? that would be a nice bump	Mar 18 17:44
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5781212	Mar 18 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A lot of people whom I hear saying they "need a new phone" don't say so because they can no longer make calls. It's about vanity/apps.		Mar 18 17:45
schestowitz__	Here the same, but seldom hear "need savings in the bank", maybe that's not fashionable.""	Mar 18 17:45
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/578249844038328320	Mar 18 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Industry been in this thick-as-thieves since day-zero!		Mar 18 17:45
MinceR	when will abeNd-org officially support GNU/Linux?	Mar 18 17:46
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abeNd-org	pfff, server side i already do, just not on the desktop (yet, until given a reason)	Mar 18 17:48
MinceR	there's at least one good reason: GNU/Linux on the desktop was less retarded than windows on the desktop for 15 years or more	Mar 18 17:49
abeNd-org	retarded or not, if the business/enterprise apps customers need arent there, then it is not usable	Mar 18 17:50
MinceR	in which case nothing is usable	Mar 18 17:58
MinceR	so might as well go till the fields instead	Mar 18 17:58
abeNd-org	shrug not my fault vendors choose to make a linux back end yet still require a windows front end	Mar 18 17:59
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MinceR	shrug not my fault m$ and apple refuse to fix their windowing systems	Mar 18 18:01
abeNd-org	yea, macosx & ios were tops on the security vulnerability list this past yr, even higher than winderz	Mar 18 18:04
schestowitz	>	Mar 18 18:05
schestowitz	> These people might be able to provide technical details about the	Mar 18 18:05
schestowitz	> attacks on their server so that a comparison could be carried out	Mar 18 18:05
schestowitz	> to see if there were any similarities on a technical level.	Mar 18 18:06
schestowitz	Rikard had phoned me, so some dots are connecting now (he also speaks	Mar 18 18:06
schestowitz	to Stilin). Is the portal above covering many other types of stories	Mar 18 18:06
schestowitz	and if so, why do you think the attacks on them may be due to Topic	Mar 18 18:06
schestowitz	coverage? BTW, Rikard calls Topic dangerous man. There is also a	Mar 18 18:06
schestowitz	family connection and Topic seemingly harasses Rikard's family (son).	Mar 18 18:06
abeNd-org	From someone in another channel - "rofl so M$ is calling their new browser that will replace IE "Project Spartan" - thus I recommend the slogan "Inviting Trojans!""	Mar 18 18:08
MinceR	lol	Mar 18 18:10
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schestowitz	"	Mar 18 18:35
schestowitz	We don't have any direct contact to Mr. Frgacic so we can't really comment on the merits of his case but we had a look at his "jumbo mail" videos.	Mar 18 18:35
schestowitz	As far as we can work out, these programs were broadcast on the main Croatian TV channel (HRT) so it seems that he has some public credibility in Croatia.	Mar 18 18:35
schestowitz	Regards	Mar 18 18:35
schestowitz	PS: According to the information we received, the "jumbo mails" will be valid for about another week so anyone who is interested should make a copy of the videos before they expire:	Mar 18 18:35
schestowitz	https://jumbo.iskon.hr/download/2b0a1188-6c89-41c7-a37f-12dc680deff1?locale=en	Mar 18 18:35
schestowitz	https://jumbo.iskon.hr/download/938bfcf3-d66c-4eeb-bd8b-f15517c5a9b1?locale=en	Mar 18 18:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jumbo.iskon.hr \| Iskon.Jumbo [ http://ur1.ca/jxmfd ]		Mar 18 18:35
schestowitz	"	Mar 18 18:35
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schestowitz	"	Mar 18 18:57
schestowitz	Roy,	Mar 18 18:57
schestowitz	We attach a copy of an English translation of the Judgment in the recent Zeljko Topic defamation case.	Mar 18 18:57
schestowitz	We also attach a copy of the original judgment in Croatian.	Mar 18 18:57
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schestowitz	You are free to publish these documents as you see fit.	Mar 18 18:57
schestowitz	Regards	Mar 18 18:57
schestowitz	"	Mar 18 18:57
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782710	Mar 18 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Cisco posts kit to empty houses to dodge #NSA chop shops http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/18/want_to_dodge_nsa_supply_chain_taps_ask_cisco_for_a_dead_drop/?mt=1426694168077 publicity stunt from backdoors collaborator		Mar 18 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk \| Cisco posts kit to empty houses to dodge NSA chop shops • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/jxmwq ]		Mar 18 19:55
schestowitz	"the Cisco/NSA BFFship is history?"	Mar 18 19:55
schestowitz	Saving face IMHO	Mar 18 19:55
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782581	Mar 18 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "GCW-ZERO runs a version of open source Linux. It’s developed by the community so expect regular updates." http://kdvr.com/2015/03/06/tech-review-open-source-gaming-in-your-pocket-gcw-zero-gcwzero-open-source-gaming-console/		Mar 18 20:03
schestowitz	"love it"	Mar 18 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> kdvr.com \| Tech Review: Open source gaming in your pocket – GCW-ZERO \| FOX31 Denver [ http://ur1.ca/jxmye ]		Mar 18 20:03
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DaemonFC	http://www.geek.com/microsoft/microsoft-is-building-a-windows-10-rom-that-wipes-android-off-phones-1618288/	Mar 18 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com \| Microsoft is building a Windows 10 ROM that wipes Android off phones \| Microsoft \| Geek.com [ http://ur1.ca/jxo0v ]		Mar 18 23:06
DaemonFC	RF • 2 minutes ago	Mar 18 23:06
DaemonFC	"The pitch is logical enough: why not offer a Windows model and give people the choice, especially when there’s minimal effort involved in doing it?"	Mar 18 23:06
DaemonFC	Because then you have a significant inventory of phones that you can't move until you give up, return them to the manufacturer, reflash them with Android, and sell as refurbished?	Mar 18 23:06
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MinceR	yeah, "choice", the microsoft way	Mar 18 23:08
MinceR	i'm all too familiar with that kind of "choice"	Mar 18 23:08
DaemonFC	http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/18/8241023/windows-10-free-for-software-pirates	Mar 18 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| Windows 10 will be free for software pirates \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/jxo1e ]		Mar 18 23:09
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Mar 18 23:09
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Mar 18 23:09
DaemonFC	That's nice. Give them a free upgrade. That'll teach people to be a big fat idiot and pay $80 for a licensed copy. smile emoticon	Mar 18 23:09
DaemonFC	I'm assuming that while this is going on, people building new PCs will just install a cracked copy of Windows 7 or 8 and then initiate the upgrade process.	Mar 18 23:11
MinceR	they won't learn anything	Mar 18 23:11
MinceR	they're windows users	Mar 18 23:11
gde33	MinceR: while there are many alternatives, without marketing they are not really usuable for that type of users	Mar 18 23:12
MinceR	i know, there are users who _want_ windows-style bad design and bugs	Mar 18 23:13
MinceR	case in point: systemd apologists	Mar 18 23:13
gde33	yes, one could also say they care more about other things	Mar 18 23:13
MinceR	it's not difficult to care more than "not at all" about something	Mar 18 23:13
gde33	xp was just bad but it was not as bad as many ui's that followed. metro shows that ms doesn't remember how to design an ui either	Mar 18 23:14
DaemonFC	http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/18/8250595/t-mobile-uncarrier-for-business-announced	Mar 18 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| T-Mobile announces 'Uncarrier' plans for businesses \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/jxo2i ]		Mar 18 23:14
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Mar 18 23:14
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Mar 18 23:14
DaemonFC	I've heard that T-Mobile is the only carrier that manages to drop more calls than Sprint. I haven't had both, but Sprint is pretty bad. Anyone?	Mar 18 23:14
MinceR	how could they remember something they never knew in the first place?	Mar 18 23:14
DaemonFC	MinceR, Homeopathy	Mar 18 23:14
MinceR	lol	Mar 18 23:14
gde33	that is just the thing, they depend on advertisement for product information	Mar 18 23:15
gde33	and expect the first computer shop to sell them a CD	Mar 18 23:15
*DaemonFC loves HexChat. Doesn't understand how mIRC can possibly still exist.		Mar 18 23:16
MinceR	a cd, in 2015?	Mar 18 23:17
DaemonFC	The last time I regularly used mIRC, I think I was running Windows 98.	Mar 18 23:17
gde33	MinceR: something they can stick in the computer and have it install	Mar 18 23:17
MinceR	that's not how they got windows anyway	Mar 18 23:17
gde33	also, paying for a product means you are to get support	Mar 18 23:18
gde33	sending some oblivious noob into grunt is the worse marketing idea	Mar 18 23:18
MinceR	yeah, i know that kind of support all too well	Mar 18 23:18
gde33	it sucks, but it is the expectation that they value	Mar 18 23:19
gde33	advertisement people are all about the way things look	Mar 18 23:19
MinceR	microsoft's bugs that will never get fixed	Mar 18 23:19
gde33	it is just how they think	Mar 18 23:19
MinceR	dell's decisions that certain things just aren't covered by the warranty	Mar 18 23:19
MinceR	it's how they don't think	Mar 18 23:19
gde33	hating on MS is not going to magically write a supperior OS	Mar 18 23:20
MinceR	the superior os has been around for over a decade	Mar 18 23:20
MinceR	some people made it very clear that they made a (supposedly informed) decision that they don't want it	Mar 18 23:20
MinceR	in general, the human species wants to go extinct and suffer a lot along the way	Mar 18 23:21
gde33	wich is that? how should one learn where to find it?	Mar 18 23:21
MinceR	gnu/linux	Mar 18 23:21
gde33	linux distro users are just like ms users, they try 2 or 3 distro's at most then argue their choice to be the right one	Mar 18 23:21
gde33	linux is not an os	Mar 18 23:21
MinceR	indeed, it's a kernel	Mar 18 23:21
gde33	I think in 2015 one would have to design hardware, then while doing so develop an OS and at the same time develop native application for all standard use cases	Mar 18 23:22
MinceR	and the ones who find their distro in 3 tries are lucky	Mar 18 23:22
MinceR	nobody does that	Mar 18 23:22
gde33	exactly	Mar 18 23:22
MinceR	m$ doesn't do that	Mar 18 23:22
MinceR	crApple doesn't do that	Mar 18 23:22
gde33	no one does that	Mar 18 23:22
gde33	so everyone is wrong in my view	Mar 18 23:22
MinceR	it would require a megacorporation in a scale that's beyond the giants of today	Mar 18 23:22
gde33	you might see something like it on some phones	Mar 18 23:22
MinceR	hardly	Mar 18 23:23
MinceR	ARM doesn't design phones	Mar 18 23:23
MinceR	others don't design ISAs	Mar 18 23:23
gde33	that might be the case, that it requires such a mega corp	Mar 18 23:23
MinceR	most others don't even design CPU cores	Mar 18 23:23
gde33	regardless of the arguments why it cant be done, this is the way to make something truly magical and progressive	Mar 18 23:23
gde33	it was not my idea to create monopolies with intelectual property and patents for their monopoly	Mar 18 23:24
gde33	it use to be that monopolies were illegal	Mar 18 23:24
gde33	it is just a sad world of trolls now	Mar 18 23:25
gde33	btw a mega corp?	Mar 18 23:25
gde33	why cant it be some other form?	Mar 18 23:25
gde33	say a mega community or some colaborating governments?	Mar 18 23:25
MinceR	i assumed that's what you meant	Mar 18 23:25
MinceR	i suppose a community could do it	Mar 18 23:26
MinceR	maybe with the rise of free hardware designs, the free software community will do that	Mar 18 23:26
gde33	the financial swindle is at the core of lack of development	Mar 18 23:26
gde33	If I look at kickstarter I see that average joe just doesn't have any money?	Mar 18 23:26
gde33	the corruption is also at the core of bad education, to render people non disruptive	Mar 18 23:27
gde33	if normal people had some 500 euro laying around just to spend on some fun global effort to build a new home computer it would be astonishing	Mar 18 23:29
MinceR	they would never care to spend it on that	Mar 18 23:29
MinceR	they don't know what is a computer and they don't care	Mar 18 23:29
gde33	not in the current settings no	Mar 18 23:30
MinceR	and if it's up to the likes of m$, crApple and intel, this is only going to get worse	Mar 18 23:30
gde33	they dont have to care about the computer, it should be money spend just on being part of something wonderful	Mar 18 23:30
gde33	you get 500 euro worth of feeling good about yourself, that should be enough	Mar 18 23:30
DaemonFC	http://wane.com/2015/03/18/microsoft-plans-replacement-for-internet-explorer	Mar 18 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wane.com \| Microsoft plans replacement for Internet Explorer \| WANE [ http://ur1.ca/jxo5j ]		Mar 18 23:30
MinceR	eventually it may get very difficult for us to get a general purpose computer at all	Mar 18 23:30
DaemonFC	RF • a minute ago	Mar 18 23:30
DaemonFC	I said goodbye to Monoposoft Internet Exploder immediately after I tried it in the 1990s. Microsoft welded it into the Windows 98 user interface shell and I had to pry it back out using a utility called "Revenge of Mozilla" written by a nice man named Bruce Jensen because the new Windows 98 Internet Explorer shell was (1) massively unstable, (2) a resource pig, (3) and it leaked GDI objects until Windows eventually crashed. Luckily, I had a	Mar 18 23:30
DaemonFC	copy of the Windows 95 OSR 2.1 versions of explorer.exe, cmdlg32.dll, and shell32.dll to provide for the utility to swap out the shell for one that worked right. I'd rather use anything but Internet Explorer. It's still nothing other than a slow, stupid, security hazard, even with version 11. The first thing I did was install Chrome and delete the IE shortcuts. I hope that with Windows 10, we have the option to totally remove IE 11, or else	Mar 18 23:30
DaemonFC	it's just going to be yet more bloat that must be supported forever because of Microsoft's illegal monopolistic legacy. Windows is already 12 times larger than a complete installation of Ubuntu, and whereas the fresh copy of Windows doesn't have most of the software you need, while the fresh copy of Ubuntu does. Windows is obese. Microsoft is getting around the excess bloat problem in Windows 10 by using file compression to make some of the	Mar 18 23:30
DaemonFC	system files use less space on disk/ssd. Windows is utter crap, and the only reason to have it is because there exists some software that doesn't work correctly in Wine. Windows and IE belong together. They're like old swiss cheese. They're full of holes and they stink.	Mar 18 23:31
gde33	MinceR: certainly	Mar 18 23:31
MinceR	> Microsoft plans replacement for the "Internet Explorer" brand	Mar 18 23:31
MinceR	FTFY	Mar 18 23:31
gde33	MinceR: yeah, we are in 1996 now!	Mar 18 23:31
gde33	woo hooo!	Mar 18 23:31
MinceR	it's more likely that it will get even more difficult to remove	Mar 18 23:32
MinceR	seeing how it's at the base of the HTML5-based metro UI	Mar 18 23:32
DaemonFC	MinceR, No. There's a fork of Trident that's being used by the new browser.	Mar 18 23:33
MinceR	ooh, a fork of Trident	Mar 18 23:33
DaemonFC	They stripped out a bunch of old legacy MSHTML crap and did stuff apparently.	Mar 18 23:34
gde33	html is really a quite stupid idea	Mar 18 23:34
DaemonFC	I glanced at a blog post about it.	Mar 18 23:34
MinceR	html is horribly badly designed	Mar 18 23:34
gde33	if it was just a bitmap with x,y cordinates we wouldn't have all these problems	Mar 18 23:34
MinceR	but tbl, m$, MPEG LA and the DRM Fan Club are working on making it a lot more horrible	Mar 18 23:34
MinceR	i have a replacement for html in mind, but only for hypertext (and maybe form) use cases	Mar 18 23:35
MinceR	the remote GUI part has to stay out of that one	Mar 18 23:35
MinceR	anyway, nobody will use it	Mar 18 23:36
MinceR	because it won't be shiny	Mar 18 23:36
gde33	Do you know PICS rating?	Mar 18 23:37
MinceR	i do not	Mar 18 23:37
gde33	in the early interwebs a sophisticated content rating system was developed	Mar 18 23:37
gde33	it was endlessly flamed by journalists who didn't want the scrunity. scrunity = no advertisement revenue	Mar 18 23:38
gde33	today it is really only used for filtering adult content	Mar 18 23:38
gde33	but it has all the sexy qualities to rate content	Mar 18 23:38
gde33	crudely put, the idea was to make it possible for everyone to start their own rating service	Mar 18 23:39
gde33	you can copy but also invent your own terms	Mar 18 23:39
gde33	so you have a quality, say "foobar"	Mar 18 23:40
gde33	then you give it a scale, say 1-5	Mar 18 23:40
gde33	you may then assign a description to "foobar" 1	Mar 18 23:40
gde33	like say "anti foobar"	Mar 18 23:40
gde33	or "poor foobar support"	Mar 18 23:40
gde33	the eventuall rating would have an url to a file where your rating system is described	Mar 18 23:41
gde33	along with a short hand, probably F for foobar, so F1E3G5D2Z1	Mar 18 23:41
gde33	would be poor foobar support	Mar 18 23:41
gde33	you add a html element, I think it was a <link> not sure, put the href and the rating inthere	Mar 18 23:42
gde33	but you can also submit the page url to a more sophisticated rating service and have the F1E3G5D2Z1 as the response text	Mar 18 23:43
gde33	it also had a kind of tracker that gathers ratings from popular rating services	Mar 18 23:43
gde33	think of it like user generated meta tags with a defined rating level	Mar 18 23:43
gde33	if you are interested in foobar you can request pages with foobar rating 5, or "full support for foobar"	Mar 18 23:45
gde33	use your friends rating service mixed with respectable gurus	Mar 18 23:45
gde33	it was quite the offical thing http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_1.12.0/com.ibm.zos.r12.dgwa400/imwziu18499.htm	Mar 18 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www-01.ibm.com \| IBM Knowledge Center [ http://ur1.ca/jxo8v ]		Mar 18 23:47
gde33	http://www.w3.org/PICS/	Mar 18 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org \| Platform for Internet Content Selection (PICS)Platform for Internet Content Selection (PICS)		Mar 18 23:48
gde33	http://www.w3.org/PICS/PICS-FAQ-980126.html	Mar 18 23:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org \| PICS, Censorship, and Intellectual Freedom FAQ [ http://ur1.ca/jxo90 ]		Mar 18 23:49
gde33	Yes. While the motivation for PICS was concern over children accessing inappropriate materials, it is a general "meta-data" system, meaning that labels can provide any kind of descriptive information about Internet materials. For example, a labeling vocabulary could indicate the literary quality of an item rather than its appropriateness for children. Most immediately, PICS labels could help in finding particularly desirable materials (	Mar 18 23:51
gde33	ee, for example, NetShepherd's label-informed Alta Vista search), and this is the main motivation for the ongoing work on a next generation label format that can include arbitrary text strings.	Mar 18 23:51
MinceR	is PICS used today?	Mar 18 23:52
gde33	only serious use is by child content filters	Mar 18 23:52
gde33	but it did survive	Mar 18 23:52
gde33	rss has a tag for it	Mar 18 23:52
gde33	MinceR: anyway, with the browser becoming an application platform I think there will be room for a text only browser with a bunch of "new" technologies added	Mar 18 23:53
MinceR	we'll see, i guess	Mar 18 23:53
gde33	people dont seem to like the idea of a proper rating system but this will change when they see it work	Mar 18 23:54
gde33	I think p2p text documents could be something awesome	Mar 18 23:55
gde33	could have licence servers where one can request the licence type for the materials represented by that service	Mar 18 23:55
MinceR	"licence server" sounds like "DRM" to me :>	Mar 18 23:56
gde33	yes, a volentary drm	Mar 18 23:56
gde33	so that people who dont want to distribute copyrighted texts dont have to	Mar 18 23:56
gde33	but also so that people who claim to have the rights to something can pay for our infrastructure	Mar 18 23:57
gde33	the old trick to avoid drm on text is to write a book review	Mar 18 23:57
gde33	the author of the book might even like it	Mar 18 23:58
gde33	think of the licence as just another bit of meta data to be had	Mar 18 23:59
gde33	if the text was written 100 years ago I will just distribute it ignoring claims of copyright	Mar 19 00:00
gde33	MinceR: I've actually grown to like content filters, I think they are awesome	Mar 19 00:01
MinceR	how so?	Mar 19 00:02
gde33	here is my rss aggregator, look where it says BAD WORDS AND BAD WORD COMBINATIONS http://opml.go-here.nl/the-internet.user.js	Mar 19 00:03
gde33	I'm slowly making hard coded feed lists, takes a bit of time, currently it has 6552 working feeds	Mar 19 00:05
gde33	the bad words make up an unreasonable % of headlines	Mar 19 00:05
MinceR	oh, i see	Mar 19 00:05
MinceR	that does sound potentially useful	Mar 19 00:05
gde33	I'm my own parrent :D	Mar 19 00:06
gde33	haha	Mar 19 00:06
MinceR	it's less of an "i can't bear to see this" and more of a "spare me of this" thing :)	Mar 19 00:06
gde33	yeah	Mar 19 00:07
gde33	it should also have a temp list, I just didn't get to that	Mar 19 00:07
gde33	things like virgin galactic are onthere because I didn't want to have 100 articles every day about some rich dude who died	Mar 19 00:08
gde33	but I never want to see an article about steve jobs ever again	Mar 19 00:08
gde33	samsung with their multibilion advert budget is also not worht reading about	Mar 19 00:09
gde33	if they add a drop shadow to an icon there will be an endless flow of articles about it	Mar 19 00:10
MinceR	of course there will, because crApple will immediately claim they invented the drop shadow and sue everyone	Mar 19 00:11
gde33	yeah, then next thing you dont want to know what is going on in the world anymore	Mar 19 00:11
gde33	enough about these terrarists already!	Mar 19 00:11
gde33	no I dont live in israel	Mar 19 00:11
MinceR	:>	Mar 19 00:11
MinceR	yet.	Mar 19 00:11
gde33	heh	Mar 19 00:12
gde33	russian and african english news sources are kinda interesting	Mar 19 00:13
gde33	you dont see those very often in google	Mar 19 00:13
gde33	they are kinda outnumbered	Mar 19 00:14
MinceR	not even pravda^Wrt?	Mar 19 00:14
gde33	we think western governments are corrupt but compared to africa it is rather modest	Mar 19 00:15
gde33	it is also a good indicator what corrupt officals are capable of	Mar 19 00:15
gde33	up to some point tho, egypt is to depressing for my taste	Mar 19 00:15
gde33	south africa is facinating	Mar 19 00:16
gde33	there corporations can just call the government and have them do whatever idiotic thing they want	Mar 19 00:17
gde33	shoot the protestors, put people in prison for saying the ZA bank is privately owned	Mar 19 00:17
gde33	*SA	Mar 19 00:17
gde33	but for a rating system my bad words filter is kinda unsophisticated and low tech	Mar 19 00:19
gde33	it has 1 quality with 2 possible values	Mar 19 00:19
DaemonFC	Someone pointed out on Amazon Forums that 70% of men in my age group (20-34) are unmarried. I replied:	Mar 19 01:02
DaemonFC	"Actually, now that gay marriage is legal, it just means that 30% of men were stupid enough to let a partner that has a 50/50 chance of turning out to be a malicious (something-or-other) drag them by the **** into a courthouse to sign papers to give the government more control over their life.	Mar 19 01:02
DaemonFC	In Huntington, Indiana, when you go in front of the judge, he's an unelected judge because nobody ever opposes him, meaning that he can't lose no matter what he does to people day in and day out. And he presides over all of the divorces in the county. Consider that."	Mar 19 01:02
DaemonFC	And you know what the Republican judges presiding over gay divorces are going to start doing to us.	Mar 19 01:02
DaemonFC	"Eeny, meeny, miny, moe..... He gets everything!"	Mar 19 01:02
DaemonFC	The sheer terror of being picked at random to lose all of your stuff will deter gay people from getting married. You heard it here first.	Mar 19 01:02
gde33	DaemonFC: are you maried?	Mar 19 01:16
DaemonFC	No.	Mar 19 01:16
gde33	why?	Mar 19 01:16
DaemonFC	Well, I could have been, several times, if it had been legal and with the way I was thinking.	Mar 19 01:16
DaemonFC	Glad the law stopped me, in retrospect. That's not to say that I agree with the ban.	Mar 19 01:17
gde33	personally I dont see a point in the religious ritual	Mar 19 01:17
DaemonFC	Every citizen should have equal rights in a society that is based on laws.	Mar 19 01:18
DaemonFC	Even the right to do something stupid.	Mar 19 01:18
gde33	I dont need a priest or the government in bed with me, I can figure out the sex without them.	Mar 19 01:18
gde33	but more interestingly...	Mar 19 01:18
gde33	I think technology brought a ton of isolation	Mar 19 01:19
gde33	what kind of things do you go out for?	Mar 19 01:19
gde33	it seems bars and discos attract a different kind of people nowadays	Mar 19 01:19
gde33	getting a drink is so expensive here I'm just not interested in it	Mar 19 01:20
gde33	the library or other kinds of social gatherings all seem in decline	Mar 19 01:21
gde33	in stead we are talking on irc to a rather disinterested audience :P	Mar 19 01:21
gde33	no offense	Mar 19 01:21
MinceR	i don't see a point in the state having to do anything with such matters	Mar 19 01:21
MinceR	which makes the ritual pointless	Mar 19 01:21
gde33	yeah, if you want god in bed with you as the 3rd wheel on the cart that is up to you	Mar 19 01:22
MinceR	i'm my own god :>	Mar 19 01:22
gde33	I think marrage is overly boolean	Mar 19 01:23
gde33	you either stay or you leave, there is nothing between it offically	Mar 19 01:23
MinceR	indeed	Mar 19 01:23
gde33	it should be the natural organic analog spectrum	Mar 19 01:23
MinceR	gn	Mar 19 01:54
DaemonFC	The funny thing was that the most significant decline in teen pregnancy in America in decades came on the heels of "16 and pregnant". You warn them about AIDS and STIs and they're like "Meh!". You show them what having kids is like, and they're all "Holy shit!!!! Condom condom condom condom! Gotta find a condom! Where's the condoms!?"."	Mar 19 03:53
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MinceR	geekings	Mar 19 13:01
XRevan86	MinceR: hi	Mar 19 13:02
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/johnkt09/status/578650764257730561	Mar 19 20:19
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MinceR	gn	Mar 20 02:11
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schestowitz	> http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/03/groundwater-pumping-sea-level-rise	Mar 20 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com \| We're Pumping So Much Groundwater That It's Causing the Oceans to Rise \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/jxz74 ]		Mar 20 10:04
schestowitz	>	Mar 20 10:04
schestowitz	> some of that is fossil water and not coming back	Mar 20 10:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/vlfig/status/578856895269703680 https://twitter.com/vlfig/status/578857327513767936	Mar 20 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vlfig: @schestowitz they're obviously in the business of serving those who pay them.		Mar 20 10:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vlfig: @schestowitz which may in fact be the users themselves, if those companies are searching for a market.		Mar 20 10:10
schestowitz	#twitter is becoming almost indistinguishable from #facebook now, more and more over time	Mar 20 10:11
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/vlfig/status/578861004240658433	Mar 20 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vlfig: @schestowitz but aren't we talking about public data?		Mar 20 10:17
schestowitz	Facebook still worse than Twitter because it sells 'private' data too	Mar 20 10:17
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__martin__	the news broke that redmond offers the source of their compiler	Mar 20 11:56
__martin__	I say: compromised, don't touch - see T//I article on apple's xcode	Mar 20 11:57
__martin__	(=	Mar 20 11:57
cubexyz	which license I wonder	Mar 20 12:00
cubexyz	apache license 2.0 it seems	Mar 20 12:00
cubexyz	I have to say I'm not interested in .NET	Mar 20 12:01
cubexyz	runs on Microsoft only... not very appealing for folks who like cross-platform development	Mar 20 12:03
__martin__	+ driver frameworks under MIT	Mar 20 12:06
cubexyz	microsoft will always be proprietary this or that	Mar 20 12:08
cubexyz	I wrote some (not much but some) msdos and windows code	Mar 20 12:10
cubexyz	I don't mind running stuff I wrote myself on dosbox or wine but that's about as far as I'm going to take it	Mar 20 12:11
cubexyz	all sorts of windows assumptions are baked into dotNET	Mar 20 12:29
cubexyz	game code ported from windows to mac to linux, that isn't too bad since it's already got abstracted from windows	Mar 20 12:30
cubexyz	the game network code was all different for each of the three versions though	Mar 20 12:33
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MinceR	m$ must be really desperate to have people run their crap code	Mar 20 13:45
MinceR	maybe they noticed redhat appeared as a competitor in the "crap software" market	Mar 20 13:46
MinceR	geekings	Mar 20 13:54
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MinceR	http://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/03/20/335dd2fcc5aef308.jpg	Mar 20 14:24
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abeNd-org	http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2120.html	Mar 20 15:40
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balrog	Hi all, been a while.	Mar 20 16:58
balrog	Any suggestions on recourse with a blatantly GPL-violating storage appliance vendor?	Mar 20 16:58
schestowitz	hey	Mar 20 17:28
schestowitz	I recalled you some weeks ago	Mar 20 17:28
schestowitz	for the RMS talk you had recorded, I think I still have it on my external drives backed upo	Mar 20 17:28
schestowitz	balrog: I suppose you're well past graduation now	Mar 20 17:29
balrog	I work there now. different department, same place	Mar 20 17:29
schestowitz	Ah, I know which one	Mar 20 17:29
schestowitz	Now there's Android, so FUD has evolved	Mar 20 17:31
schestowitz	Google and Linus takes some of the heat too, RMS gets a break...	Mar 20 17:31
balrog	well, there's the whole mediatek mess	Mar 20 17:32
balrog	and multiple other chinese vendors that don't even care	Mar 20 17:32
balrog	I know about the patent stuff	Mar 20 17:32
balrog	it's an ongoing mess of FUD, I follow it at a high level but don't go too deep because, well, no time	Mar 20 17:32
schestowitz	MinceR: even if it doesn't blow itself up, female genital mutilation will blow half of them up	Mar 20 17:32
balrog	but it annoys me when vendors think they're clever and refuse to cooperate	Mar 20 17:33
balrog	in this case though I haven't contacted the vendor about this	Mar 20 17:33
schestowitz	!google mediatek gpl	Mar 20 17:33
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TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - MediaTek Releases Full Kernel Source for Android One \| http://www.xda-developers.com/mediatek-android-one-source/	Mar 20 17:33
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Should Mediatek honor GPL or shall Chinese phone makers use ... \| http://www.gizchina.com/2013/09/21/mediatek-honor-gpl-shall-chinese-phone-makers-use-rival-processors/	Mar 20 17:33
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schestowitz	Samsung used to do this too	Mar 20 17:33
schestowitz	DaemonFC contacted them	Mar 20 17:34
schestowitz	and we did some public shaming	Mar 20 17:34
schestowitz	Samsung is now getting more serious about FOSS and complying with the GPL	Mar 20 17:34
balrog	Samsung also is more in the spotlight	Mar 20 17:34
schestowitz	it wasn't like this years ago, they're really trying right now to recruit FOSS-savvy people	Mar 20 17:34
balrog	since they're a major consumer electronics provider	Mar 20 17:34
balrog	Mediatek? they're a supplier	Mar 20 17:34
balrog	I'm not saying this to excuse them	Mar 20 17:35
schestowitz	No wonder I never heard of anything from them	Mar 20 17:35
balrog	they make chips	Mar 20 17:35
schestowitz	my wife worked for a supplier before	Mar 20 17:35
schestowitz	Bourns	Mar 20 17:35
balrog	oh, they seem to be a decent company	Mar 20 17:35
balrog	they make passives	Mar 20 17:35
balrog	I've used their parts	Mar 20 17:35
schestowitz	they ruined her eyesight	Mar 20 17:35
balrog	:/	Mar 20 17:35
balrog	(if that's the same Bourns)	Mar 20 17:36
schestowitz	Probably	Mar 20 17:36
schestowitz	US company, but manufacturing it overseas	Mar 20 17:36
schestowitz	and QA	Mar 20 17:36
balrog	most companies do global manufacturing these days so I'm not surprised	Mar 20 17:36
balrog	high value stuff in the US or Japan or such, lower value / bulk stuff overseas (China/Taiwan usually)	Mar 20 17:36
schestowitz	even Thailand and Vietnam for some parts	Mar 20 17:37
balrog	yeah	Mar 20 17:37
schestowitz	and these nations also import labour	Mar 20 17:37
schestowitz	for lower salaries	Mar 20 17:37
schestowitz	Some even gather workforce from indonesia	Mar 20 17:37
balrog	it's not at all surprising	Mar 20 17:37
balrog	it's pretty much the status quo	Mar 20 17:37
schestowitz	West outsources to China	Mar 20 17:38
schestowitz	China brings even cheaper labour from south east Asia	Mar 20 17:38
schestowitz	Singapore does that with Indians, Sri Lankans, and Chinese...	Mar 20 17:38
schestowitz	I came back from there 1.5 weeks ago	Mar 20 17:40
balrog	as for GPL, embarrassing large vendors works, but smaller vendors (like enterprise ones) can get away easier	Mar 20 17:44
balrog	I should contact the SFC but I'm not sure I still have any paper docs for this crap	Mar 20 17:44
balrog	and if they did include a GPL disclosure in the box, I guess they could get away with it	Mar 20 17:46
balrog	they make you clickthrough a typical EULA when downloading software updates	Mar 20 17:46
schestowitz	We did this with Tuxera	Mar 20 17:52
schestowitz	SFC got involved	Mar 20 17:52
schestowitz	but at the end they came up with some explanations	Mar 20 17:52
schestowitz	so we never really published much about it (last year mostly)	Mar 20 17:53
schestowitz	Pressuring small firms works too	Mar 20 17:53
schestowitz	they are more sensitive to brand destruction	Mar 20 17:53
balrog	well here they're shipping a modded kernel with lots of closed modules, modded samba (changing even the version number), etc	Mar 20 17:53
balrog	that's just the beginning, I'm sure there are 5 or 6 other things	Mar 20 17:54
balrog	funny enough the company was compliant when under the previous owners	Mar 20 17:54
schestowitz	Tuxera?	Mar 20 17:55
balrog	nope	Mar 20 17:55
balrog	the company that sells the hardware I've got here	Mar 20 17:55
schestowitz	enforcement needed (teeth) to add to the bark then...	Mar 20 18:06
schestowitz	maybe the vmware case will raise some awareness	Mar 20 18:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PHP 7 Set to Dramatically Acclerate PHP	Mar 20 18:36
TweetTuxMachines	Performance http://t.co/lEVEMfqmOK	Mar 20 18:36
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TweetTuxMachines	MariaDB http://t.co/sKwg9YyqZw	Mar 20 18:39
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DaemonFC	I don't see what the big deal was with Samsung.	Mar 20 19:45
DaemonFC	It's not like there were trade secrets involved with releasing their open source bits.	Mar 20 19:45
DaemonFC	There was a patch here or there that fixed a couple of bugs in various parts of the software they use. Most companies are glad to give those away so they don't have to maintain a forked library or something.	Mar 20 19:46
balrog	DaemonFC: it should never be a big deal to release the code	Mar 20 19:48
balrog	has anyone here requested GPL source code from lenovo (non-android)?	Mar 20 19:49
balrog	this is just for something which they've released code but apparently not the latest	Mar 20 19:50
MinceR	https://archive.today/4xJO2	Mar 20 19:57
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MinceR	time to boycott winblows 10 logo labeled hardware	Mar 20 19:57
XRevan86	MinceR: What the…	Mar 20 19:58
MinceR	the next step in the death of the general-purpose computer	Mar 20 19:58
XRevan86	MinceR: This is just sick.	Mar 20 19:58
MinceR	brought to you by m$, intel and crApple	Mar 20 19:58
DaemonFC	MinceR, I doubt they'll ever get rid of the ability to use non-Windows store software.	Mar 20 19:59
MinceR	DaemonFC: i don't share your optimism	Mar 20 19:59
balrog	The implementation of Boot Guard worries me more	Mar 20 19:59
MinceR	that's another part of the problem	Mar 20 19:59
balrog	being able to authenticate the BIOS is not a bad idea, but burning the key into the CPU? I mean come on	Mar 20 20:00
MinceR	as always, the point is not security (despite their claims)	Mar 20 20:01
MinceR	the point is lock-in	Mar 20 20:01
balrog	putting an extra chip with the key would cost a few more bucks	Mar 20 20:01
MinceR	also, you could remove that extra chip or replace it	Mar 20 20:02
balrog	you can remove the CPU or replace it	Mar 20 20:02
cubexyz	btw the secure boot code is in the wild	Mar 20 20:02
cubexyz	it's been leaked	Mar 20 20:02
MinceR	and i suspect eventually a closely controlled and surveilled caste of programmers is the goal	Mar 20 20:02
balrog	and that's what people who want to do will do	Mar 20 20:02
balrog	cubexyz: you mean the private keys?	Mar 20 20:02
balrog	Boot Guard is separate from Secure Boot	Mar 20 20:03
MinceR	so that finally companies that try to make business by selling crap code can get rid of their competition	Mar 20 20:03
balrog	Secure Boot validates the OS bootloader	Mar 20 20:03
balrog	Boot Guard validates the BIOS	Mar 20 20:03
MinceR	and perhaps to generate the illusion that security by obscurity finally works	Mar 20 20:03
cubexyz	balrog, it's the code for Cedar Trail, Ivy Bridge, Luna Pier and Sandy Bridge	Mar 20 20:04
balrog	cubexyz: where is it?	Mar 20 20:04
cubexyz	yandex might have it :)	Mar 20 20:04
cubexyz	if you want FOSS bios you want chromebook/box or Lemote	Mar 20 20:07
cubexyz	there's a few others like certain Thinkpads	Mar 20 20:07
balrog	usually older machines that don't require the AMT blob	Mar 20 20:08
balrog	or non-intel	Mar 20 20:08
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MinceR	we'll need free computers with homebrew fabbing	Mar 20 20:09
MinceR	as we can't trust fascists to sell general-purpose computers to us for long	Mar 20 20:09
cubexyz	well there's FPGAs, they can't really stop that	Mar 20 20:10
cubexyz	the bios code is getting very complex	Mar 20 20:12
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MinceR	maybe they'll ban fpga-s too	Mar 20 20:17
cubexyz	Asus has a Linux PC you can buy them at a lot of places	Mar 20 20:19
cubexyz	Asus EeeBox	Mar 20 20:19
MinceR	what will be 10 years from now?	Mar 20 20:20
schestowitz	MinceR: wow	Mar 20 20:24
schestowitz	ms peter	Mar 20 20:24
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schestowitz	if true, proves techrights right, again	Mar 20 20:25
schestowitz	one step at a time... microsoft loves linux	Mar 20 20:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam's 2K 10th Anniversary Sale Has Linux	Mar 20 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	Goodies Going Cheap https://t.co/I3xx8frI0w	Mar 20 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Mar 20 20:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam sale offers Linux games at up to 80% off	Mar 20 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QSy93JII0H (www.itworld.com)	Mar 20 20:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Gqhkyy3jZR (www.tuxarena.com)	Mar 20 20:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #Wine 1.7.39 Is a Small Release, Fixes Issues	Mar 20 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	with Microsoft Word and Nero Burning ROM	Mar 20 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 20 best Android apps and games this week	Mar 20 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/u8QQETgsSO (www.theguardian.com)	Mar 20 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Majestic Nights Developers Looking For Linux	Mar 20 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	Testers https://t.co/78ilrwSWkB	Mar 20 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Mar 20 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5 on Arch Linux review	Mar 20 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GLib2 Gets Ready for GNOME 3.16, Brings Support	Mar 20 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	for HTTP Proxies in GIO http://t.co/jTHbWRrCRZ	Mar 20 20:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 20 20:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Tizen TV SDK 1.4 has been released	Mar 20 20:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/D42KkxYIRJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 20 20:51
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balrog	cubexyz: FPGA development tools are anything but free	Mar 20 20:58
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MinceR	another thing that needs fixing	Mar 20 21:15
cubexyz	at least there's FOSS HDL simulation tools	Mar 20 21:17
cubexyz	Icarus and GHDL	Mar 20 21:17
cubexyz	then you can download a free (but not open source) Xilinx and Altera	Mar 20 21:18
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cubexyz	smart OEMs will allow one to disable secure boot and use it as a selling feature	Mar 20 21:30
MinceR	if any of them will care about that tiny minority of potential customers which knows what they're doing	Mar 20 21:31
cubexyz	I think ASUS cares	Mar 20 21:31
cubexyz	and i don't think the linux/bsd market is that tiny	Mar 20 21:32
cubexyz	a lot of scientists are running linux	Mar 20 21:32
MinceR	there are lots of idiots buying multi-thousand dollar facebook machines	Mar 20 21:32
MinceR	preferably with a crApple logo	Mar 20 21:32
cubexyz	you mean mac book pro, that sort of thing?	Mar 20 21:33
MinceR	that sort of thing	Mar 20 21:33
MinceR	hypePhones and hypePads too	Mar 20 21:33
MinceR	OnePort Air	Mar 20 21:33
MinceR	and apparently many former gnu/linux users just wanted a gratis winblows/macos knockoff	Mar 20 21:33
MinceR	and lendows is providing that now	Mar 20 21:33
abeNd-org	yea, we get execs "breaking" theirs every 6 months or so, so they can get new ones	Mar 20 21:33
cubexyz	ok, well all the more reason to research before you buy	Mar 20 21:36
cubexyz	which is a good idea anyways	Mar 20 21:36
MinceR	until there will be nothing left	Mar 20 21:37
MinceR	at which point research won't do you any good	Mar 20 21:37
cubexyz	a few years ago I wanted a motherboard that shipped with coreboot	Mar 20 21:40
cubexyz	now OEMs have sold millions of chromebookes/boxes	Mar 20 21:40
cubexyz	tjat	Mar 20 21:40
cubexyz	that is actually a good thing	Mar 20 21:40
MinceR	i'm not sure i'd like being forced into that choice	Mar 20 21:41
MinceR	with the tiny mass storage device and the mandatory delay on boot	Mar 20 21:41
cubexyz	the coreboot folks should be able to help you with that	Mar 20 21:46
cubexyz	http://kodi.wiki/view/Chromebox#Put_in_Developer_Mode	Mar 20 21:47
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MinceR	intel is trying to destroy coreboot and force their uefi in its place	Mar 20 21:47
MinceR	it would be nice if they had real competition	Mar 20 21:47
cubexyz	intel is actually pushing chromebooks	Mar 20 21:49
cubexyz	I think they all have intel cpus	Mar 20 21:50
MinceR	no	Mar 20 21:50
MinceR	some of them have ARM SoC-s	Mar 20 21:50
MinceR	and i think i saw some VIA CPU, too	Mar 20 21:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing 2lemetry ThingFabric, an Ubuntu	Mar 20 21:51
TweetTuxMachines	Snappy-Powered Internet of Things Platform	Mar 20 21:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zXeKUDFF9g (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 20 21:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Did VMware Flout Open Source License Terms?	Mar 20 21:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alpine Linux 3.1.3 released	Mar 20 21:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Sxf13W1LoM (www.alpinelinux.org)	Mar 20 21:51
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cubexyz	intel also makes ARM cpus	Mar 20 21:52
cubexyz	ARM doesn't manufacture cpu	Mar 20 21:52
MinceR	i thought they sold StrongARM to Marvell	Mar 20 21:52
MinceR	anyway, the ARM chromebooks i'm aware of use Samsung Exynos SoCs	Mar 20 21:52
MinceR	which all use ARM CPU core designs, afaik (Cortex)	Mar 20 21:53
cubexyz	yeah a lot of the Chromebook OEMs switched over to Intel around 2013	Mar 20 21:56
cubexyz	as you say, not all of them	Mar 20 21:56
cubexyz	not sure which one is better	Mar 20 21:57
MinceR	intel is faster, ARM is more power-efficient	Mar 20 21:57
MinceR	and ARM didn't need active cooling	Mar 20 21:57
MinceR	now it seems that intel finally managed to design mobile CPUs that don't need active cooling	Mar 20 21:58
MinceR	they both tend to be locked down	Mar 20 21:58
MinceR	http://www.theonion.com/articles/wall-street-firm-develops-new-highspeed-algorithm,38202/	Mar 20 22:01
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MinceR	gn	Mar 21 00:54
balrog	MinceR, cubexyz, I have friends who are working on that (though mainly for pragmatic reasons)	Mar 21 01:12
balrog	(which is fine by me)	Mar 21 01:12
balrog	cubexyz: heard of Yosys?	Mar 21 01:12
balrog	and http://www.lowrisc.org/docs/gsoc-2015-ideas/	Mar 21 01:13
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, I uninstalled Skype.	Mar 21 02:29
DaemonFC	The only person I really talked to on it told me of a program called Tox.	Mar 21 02:29
DaemonFC	Apparently, it's open source and uses strong encryption and doesn't log anything to your disk.	Mar 21 02:29
DaemonFC	I'm secure wiping the free space on my phone.	Mar 21 02:30
DaemonFC	I'm going to encrypt it after the wiping is complete.	Mar 21 02:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alpine Linux 3.1.3 released	Mar 21 03:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Sn5Qp8xTA6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 03:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The best Chromebook ever: Google's 2015 Pixel	Mar 21 03:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G21ZiJhN6S (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 03:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DAQ box runs Linux on Core i7, packs Spartan-6	Mar 21 05:52
TweetTuxMachines	FPGA http://t.co/27rteOOdxl (linuxgizmos.com)	Mar 21 05:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5 on Arch Linux review	Mar 21 05:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Linux Keeps Growing Amid IoT	Mar 21 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	Disruption, Says Study http://t.co/dAKi60icYf	Mar 21 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 21 05:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Things You Can Do in Android 5.1 That You	Mar 21 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	Couldn't Before http://t.co/RbY36IjwXh	Mar 21 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	(fieldguide.gizmodo.com)	Mar 21 05:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The best Chromebook ever: Google's 2015 Pixel	Mar 21 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sC8U8bQhpo (www.zdnet.com)	Mar 21 05:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing 2lemetry ThingFabric, an Ubuntu	Mar 21 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	Snappy-Powered Internet of Things Platform	Mar 21 05:59
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/XuC24pkAs8 (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 21 05:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Tizen TV SDK 1.4 has been released	Mar 21 06:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mJlO24iCjD (www.tizenexperts.com)	Mar 21 06:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GLib2 Gets Ready for GNOME 3.16, Brings Support	Mar 21 06:01
TweetTuxMachines	for HTTP Proxies in GIO http://t.co/vHg9JPDKkn	Mar 21 06:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Google is finally delivering a few perks that	Mar 21 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	didn’t make the cut when it rolled out Android	Mar 21 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	Lollipop." http://t.co/s72GbbIXIJ	Mar 21 06:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BioShock Infinite Is The Latest Game Showing	Mar 21 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	Why Linux Gamers Choose NVIDIA	Mar 21 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZmhZ3fAJ5g (www.phoronix.com)	Mar 21 06:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chromebooks powered by Rockchip processors	Mar 21 06:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gmail-Friendly Email Clients Available on Linux	Mar 21 06:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core	Mar 21 06:28
TweetTuxMachines	Atom SoC http://t.co/aSc5IgyrQT	Mar 21 06:28
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lirodon	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/ Microsoft is allowing Windows 10 devices to have Insecure Boot permamently enabled	Mar 21 06:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel 3.19.2 Is Available Via The Default	Mar 21 06:52
TweetTuxMachines	Repositories Of Arch Linux And Derivatives	Mar 21 06:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/D2IY7xsU3o (linuxg.net)	Mar 21 06:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Insync 1.2 Released With New HTML5 UI	Mar 21 06:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/o7o49uLp3a (www.webupd8.org)	Mar 21 06:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ASUS C201 Chromebook with Rockchip RK3288 SoC	Mar 21 06:53
TweetTuxMachines	Coming Soon http://t.co/KaZwQ1q3Xc	Mar 21 06:53
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5795412	Mar 21 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This Declassified #CIA Report Shows the Shaky Case for the #Iraq War http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/03/cia-iraq-bush-wmd-report lying to funnel money to #war (and oil) industry		Mar 21 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com \| This Declassified CIA Report Shows the Shaky Case for the Iraq War \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/jy8t5 ]		Mar 21 07:13
schestowitz	"Have you ever read the national defense whitepaper from the Project for a New American Century? They used to have it on their site but the entire site has been gone for about a year now. I think the think tank went underground."	Mar 21 07:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5796232	Mar 21 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What’s Scarier: Terrorism, or Governments Blocking Websites in its Name? https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/17/whats-scarier-terrorism-governments-unilaterally-blocking-websites-name/ #censorship on the rise		Mar 21 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org \| What's Scarier: Terrorism, or Governments Blocking Websites in its Name? - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/jy8tu ]		Mar 21 07:17
schestowitz	"	Mar 21 07:17
schestowitz	What is 'a distinction without a difference', for $500?	Mar 21 07:17
schestowitz	(that's a US game show reference to 'Jeopardy')	Mar 21 07:17
schestowitz	"	Mar 21 07:17
schestowitz	'You get the answer, and have to provide the correct response in the form of a question... :p"	Mar 21 07:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5727842	Mar 21 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: That awkward moment you realise your PCs at home are all unreachable (whilst away) and cause unknown (crash/network/fire/breakin)... :-/		Mar 21 07:19
schestowitz	"What happened?"	Mar 21 07:19
schestowitz	Session crash in Debian	Mar 21 07:19
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5706608	Mar 21 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Scanning about 15 family photo albums today, had to take a break for a while in case there's important news.		Mar 21 07:20
schestowitz	http://50.80.140.55/photo_album/chron/2010/2010_05_27-scanning/	Mar 21 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-50.80.140.55 \| 2010_05_27-scanning [ http://ur1.ca/jy8uh ]		Mar 21 07:20
schestowitz	":( If it's any help, here's pictures of one of my last big scanning efforts. I've got a hand held scanner now but still like the flat beds."	Mar 21 07:20
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5797755	Mar 21 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nadella is a liar and a fraud. #microsoft does not love #linux as it continues to attack it. http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/201722-linuxs-worst-case-scenario-microsoft-makes-secure-boot-mandatory-locks-out-other-operating-systems		Mar 21 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.extremetech.com \| Linux’s worst-case scenario: Windows 10 makes Secure Boot mandatory, locks out other operating systems \| ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/jy8ul ]		Mar 21 07:20
schestowitz	"I'm scared to get a computer with UEFI, for fear that I can't boot into a decent OS."	Mar 21 07:20
schestowitz	So boycott UEFI. It's all a patent trap.	Mar 21 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Learn All The Basic Ubuntu Touch Tips And	Mar 21 07:53
TweetTuxMachines	Tricks With The Ubuntu Help App	Mar 21 07:53
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4BViETnS0v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 07:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy91z	Mar 21 07:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Learn All The Basic Ubuntu Touch Tips And Tricks With The Ubuntu Help App \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 07:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core	Mar 21 07:53
TweetTuxMachines	Atom SoC http://t.co/qk30uS3c0f	Mar 21 07:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 07:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core Atom SoC \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 07:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Releases Firefox 36.0.3 to Patch the	Mar 21 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	Security Vulnerabilities Disclosed at Pwn2Own	Mar 21 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qn0TLP4bTC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy921	Mar 21 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla Releases Firefox 36.0.3 to Patch the Security Vulnerabilities Disclosed at Pwn2Own \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 07:54
cubexyz	balorg, looks interesting	Mar 21 07:55
cubexyz	balrog	Mar 21 07:55
*TweetTuxMachines @StephDAVOS favourited 'Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core Atom...'		Mar 21 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Extirpating systemd from Debian	Mar 21 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7FbEw5LvMg	Mar 21 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	(multixden.blogspot.co.uk) "all my debian	Mar 21 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-multixden.blogspot.co.uk \| The Art is Long: Extirpating systemd from Debian		Mar 21 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	machines switched to systemd without my	Mar 21 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	consent"	Mar 21 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy93f	Mar 21 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines In the market for a $40 Android tablet? Take a	Mar 21 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	look at the Jide Ultra Remix Android tablet	Mar 21 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/14hyucV3yg (www.digitaltrends.com)	Mar 21 08:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Get The Jide Ultra Remix Android Tablet for $40 \| Digital Trends		Mar 21 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/UsDe5zYPz1	Mar 21 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/579195902377611264	Mar 21 08:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Rhv5XRzz9W	Mar 21 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 08:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.39 and CrossOver 14.1	Mar 21 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FCHI6AeSet (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 08:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy98o	Mar 21 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Wine 1.7.39 and CrossOver 14.1 \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 08:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/n6PdR0cNCu	Mar 21 08:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 08:24
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy98q	Mar 21 08:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 08:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/MkyIaDcG7i	Mar 21 08:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 08:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 08:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 21/3/2015: Alpine Linux 3.1.3, Tizen TV	Mar 21 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	SDK 1.4 http://t.co/vhAgiQNle6 (techrights.org)	Mar 21 10:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 21/3/2015: Alpine Linux 3.1.3, Tizen TV SDK 1.4 \| Techrights		Mar 21 10:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux – Part I – The UEFI	Mar 21 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	Attack on GNU/Linux http://t.co/Ln27NVKXJE	Mar 21 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Mar 21 11:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part I – The UEFI Attack on GNU/Linux \| Techrights		Mar 21 11:41
cubexyz	ASUS EeeBox also has permanently embedded Linux	Mar 21 11:58
cubexyz	ok, 2014/2015 is a new era... you can go to the local store and buy a Linux computer	Mar 21 11:59
cubexyz	vast improvement over previous years	Mar 21 12:00
cubexyz	also CybertronPC LyNX1 Desktop PC with AMD Athlon 5150 Linux Ubuntu 12.1 available for $350	Mar 21 12:05
cubexyz	I guess 12.1 is a bit old but still, no windows tax	Mar 21 12:06
cubexyz	I don't think systemd was added to Ubuntu until 15.04	Mar 21 12:07
XRevan86	What's Ubuntu 12.1?	Mar 21 12:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: Do you mean 12.10 or 12.04?	Mar 21 12:10
cubexyz	yes sorry, 12.10	Mar 21 12:12
cubexyz	Quantal Quetzal	Mar 21 12:12
cubexyz	the ad on the web page for Canada Computers listed it as 12.1	Mar 21 12:13
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cubexyz	ugh, sorry not Canada Computers... Tigerdirect.ca	Mar 21 12:13
XRevan86	12.10 is an insane choice anyway.	Mar 21 12:14
XRevan86	which means how much do they care	Mar 21 12:14
cubexyz	it seems that's what the eee box and CybertronPC come with	Mar 21 12:14
cubexyz	not my first choice either :)	Mar 21 12:14
XRevan86	Even in 2012/2013 it would be much more wise to choose 12.04 than 12.10.	Mar 21 12:16
cubexyz	I'm curious if they are selling the windows CybertronPC for less though	Mar 21 12:16
cubexyz	if they are the same specs	Mar 21 12:16
cubexyz	ah, they have perfect option for us... no OS :)	Mar 21 12:17
XRevan86	cubexyz: What's the difference with Ubuntu? :)	Mar 21 12:17
XRevan86	Obsolete Ubuntu costs as much as no OS at all.	Mar 21 12:18
cubexyz	well I'm thinking at least it should work well with Linux	Mar 21 12:18
cubexyz	I probably would check out Ubuntu for 3 minutes then delete it	Mar 21 12:19
XRevan86	Also I've seen a laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled which… actually has problems (broadcom).	Mar 21 12:19
XRevan86	So having a preinstalled OS does not always mean that it'll work.	Mar 21 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux – Part II – Patent	Mar 21 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	Lawsuits Against Android/Linux Still Going On,	Mar 21 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	New Ones Filed	Mar 21 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/smqye9zeJV (techrights.org)	Mar 21 12:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part II – Patent Lawsuits Against Android/Linux Still Going On, New Ones Filed \| Techrights		Mar 21 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux - Part III - Abducting	Mar 21 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	the Competition (Android)	Mar 21 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CzWkeH6aOg (techrights.org)	Mar 21 12:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part III – Abducting the Competition (Android) \| Techrights		Mar 21 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux – Part IV – Deleting,	Mar 21 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	Attacking Android/Linux From Within	Mar 21 12:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nBMn4kILhu (techrights.org)	Mar 21 12:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part IV – Deleting, Attacking Android/Linux From Within \| Techrights		Mar 21 12:20
XRevan86	cubexyz: And LinpusOS which was preinstalled on my mothers laptop didn't even work out of the box (misconfiguration).	Mar 21 12:21
cubexyz	hmmm, what was wrong with it?	Mar 21 12:21
XRevan86	cubexyz: Old Linux kernel had problems with modeset on that laptop.	Mar 21 12:21
XRevan86	so they had to append nomodeset to GRUB or use a more fresh OS	Mar 21 12:22
XRevan86	but out of the box… vivu la kernel panic	Mar 21 12:22
cubexyz	wow that's not good	Mar 21 12:22
XRevan86	cubexyz: Good part is that I don't believe in OEM anyway.	Mar 21 12:24
cubexyz	a bit hard to avoid OEM for laptops	Mar 21 12:24
cubexyz	of course you can always assemble your own desktop/tower	Mar 21 12:24
XRevan86	cubexyz: These "Linux"'s and FreeDOS's they ship are as good as no OS.	Mar 21 12:24
XRevan86	Of course, if Windows is shipped or even required, things get more complicated.	Mar 21 12:26
cubexyz	except if the PC ships with Linux at least you know that secureboot was turned off	Mar 21 12:26
cubexyz	or perhaps it doesn't have secureboot at all	Mar 21 12:26
XRevan86	cubexyz: Sure. Now it's even more actual.	Mar 21 12:27
XRevan86	cubexyz: Or not sure since some distros have SecureBoot keys so they'll work even without SecureBoot that can be disabled.	Mar 21 12:28
XRevan86	including Ubuntu	Mar 21 12:28
cubexyz	I guess that's a good thing	Mar 21 12:28
cubexyz	not really ideal though	Mar 21 12:28
XRevan86	> except if the PC ships with Linux at least you know that secureboot was turned off	Mar 21 12:29
XRevan86	cubexyz: Point is: no, you don't.	Mar 21 12:29
cubexyz	well, what about freedos? I doubt that has secureboot keys	Mar 21 12:30
XRevan86	cubexyz: It doesn't even support UEFI.	Mar 21 12:30
XRevan86	cubexyz: Still, I suspect, if SecureBoot will become an issue it wants to be, vendors will suddenly realize that FreeDOS sucks.	Mar 21 12:30
XRevan86	cubexyz: And so, one should check a laptop before buying it from now on.	Mar 21 12:33
cubexyz	couldn't you just boot from usb or something?	Mar 21 12:34
XRevan86	whether it has SecureBoot that can be disabled	Mar 21 12:34
cubexyz	definitely, it would be my first question	Mar 21 12:34
XRevan86	cubexyz: SecureBoot prevents unsigned booting from USB, too.	Mar 21 12:34
cubexyz	ah	Mar 21 12:35
cubexyz	well then it goes back to whether or not you can turn secureboot off	Mar 21 12:35
cubexyz	seems overly limiting to me	Mar 21 12:36
cubexyz	indeed, it seems like a control mechanism	Mar 21 12:36
cubexyz	but I know intel chromebooks have seabios, and that will boot freedos	Mar 21 12:37
XRevan86	cubexyz: Chromebooks will not have SecureBoot of course.	Mar 21 12:37
XRevan86	they have their own ways of restriction	Mar 21 12:38
cubexyz	have you ever seen a motherboard that had secureboot that couldn't be turned off?	Mar 21 12:38
XRevan86	cubexyz: No, Win10 is not released yet.	Mar 21 12:38
XRevan86	Win8 certification requires an option to disable SecureBoot.	Mar 21 12:39
XRevan86	I wonder what antimonopoly services will say.	Mar 21 12:41
XRevan86	I suspect nothing	Mar 21 12:41
schestowitz	[02:29] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I uninstalled Skype.	Mar 21 12:41
schestowitz	+1	Mar 21 12:41
cubexyz	what you mean like the US DOJ or European Union?	Mar 21 12:41
schestowitz	someone asked me to install it recently	Mar 21 12:41
schestowitz	I did not even reply	Mar 21 12:41
cubexyz	surely they will do something	Mar 21 12:42
XRevan86	cubexyz: Any.	Mar 21 12:42
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cubexyz	I'm assuming one could overwrite the firmware itself and put coreboot on	Mar 21 12:43
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XRevan86	cubexyz: On Chromebooks?	Mar 21 12:44
cubexyz	chromebooks or other motheboards	Mar 21 12:44
XRevan86	coreboot is very limited	Mar 21 12:44
XRevan86	one should choose what to buy carefully with looking at what coreboot supports	Mar 21 12:45
cubexyz	in the "old" days, I looked for socketed bios, pop it out and reprogram it	Mar 21 12:46
cubexyz	I guess Purism's Librem laptop was necessary	Mar 21 12:48
cubexyz	Dell has the M3800 mobile workstation, that comes with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS	Mar 21 12:54
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/579265044019568640	Mar 21 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz This is something that I discussed with a N Korean senior scientist. Works for Kim Jong. Which is better or worse ? @ruskin147		Mar 21 13:00
schestowitz	US is better by definition... of US media	Mar 21 13:00
cubexyz	Acer Veriton N2620G nettop, also shipped with freedos	Mar 21 13:01
cubexyz	not sure if they still sell that one	Mar 21 13:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux - Part V - Dumping and	Mar 21 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	Surveillance to Counter GNU/Linux Insurgence	Mar 21 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qMlZlMkRd9 (techrights.org)	Mar 21 13:04
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/579265976526598144	Mar 21 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part V – Dumping and Surveillance to Counter GNU/Linux Insurgence \| Techrights		Mar 21 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz @ruskin147 Yes. It's difficult if you are a media person. So many rules and regulations that stop you from publishing anything		Mar 21 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How To Encrypt Cloud Storage Files & Folders In	Mar 21 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/Muv2EObeDg	Mar 21 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 13:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How To Encrypt Cloud Storage Files & Folders In Linux \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 13:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579273055706320896 https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579273276444184576	Mar 21 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz @WIRED huh this has been around since 1989. Not sure this is new news. What are tools of 2015		Mar 21 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz @WIRED why is wide band spectrum analysis banned in P act		Mar 21 13:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579275575560249344	Mar 21 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz it ain't the NSA. It's the people providing the funding who need to go		Mar 21 13:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579280458573217792	Mar 21 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz worked for DOC NIST NSA. The men working there are not evil or anti freedom.fraternity of politicos needs to be placed on rack		Mar 21 14:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579280866834137088	Mar 21 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz I think the focus is on the tool not the tool user. Our national complacency and ignorance has enabled these fools to rule us		Mar 21 14:02
schestowitz	"@harry_haller It's so true what you say. Tomorrow it's you or me. So the people (chosen by us) who should protect us are only frightening us and are able to put us away whenever they want."	Mar 21 14:02
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5795736	Mar 21 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "13,000 deaths, the CIA’s role in the anthrax attacks...explored plans to put anthrax..drum up support for the war." http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidkushner/matt-dehart?utm_term=.blLjjq5Vj#.mi38YzewQl		Mar 21 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.buzzfeed.com \| "I Might Have Some Sensitive Files": The Strange Saga And Dark Secrets Of Matt DeHart - BuzzFeed News [ http://ur1.ca/jy3zw ]		Mar 21 14:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579281266454888448	Mar 21 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz I leave it at free all the data regardless of consequences the people controlling it now have long lost moral high ground		Mar 21 14:04
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5797838	Mar 21 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Unable to beat Linux, Microsoft tries dirty tricks http://is.gd/oEkWPe . Need for free hardware strengthens.		Mar 21 14:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com \| Windows 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality \| Ars Technica		Mar 21 14:06
schestowitz	"Maybe this will launch a whole new industry of Linux pre-loaded PCs, i.e. the end of the era of buying a Windows machine and then installing linux. This could be Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot."	Mar 21 14:06
schestowitz	This is wishful thinking	Mar 21 14:06
cubexyz	well it's always correct to say "Microsoft tries dirty tricks" :)	Mar 21 14:07
cubexyz	this effects a lot of different groups like Plan 9, the BSDs, AROS, Minix, ReactOS, etc	Mar 21 14:10
cubexyz	it's utter nonsense that all these operating systems will get locked out	Mar 21 14:11
cubexyz	what if you are developing a research project for your own OS?	Mar 21 14:12
cubexyz	the whole idea of secure boot is madness	Mar 21 14:12
cubexyz	they could have done something smart... like hard drives with a jumper setting to make the boot sector read-only	Mar 21 14:13
XRevan86	cubexyz: UEFI doesn't have a boot sector.	Mar 21 14:14
XRevan86	http://fi8.eu.apcdn.com/full/126411.jpg	Mar 21 14:16
XRevan86	cubexyz: own OS? That's not Windows therefore should not live.	Mar 21 14:16
cubexyz	XRevan86, I beleive MIT has an operating system development course	Mar 21 14:17
XRevan86	cubexyz: So obsolete	Mar 21 14:18
cubexyz	all such courses are going to devote a certain amount of time to historical overviews of operating systems	Mar 21 14:21
cubexyz	got to start at the beginning	Mar 21 14:21
XRevan86	cubexyz: Anyway, if they want to teach non-Windows OS development (for historical reasons?), they can use Microsoft Windows 10 with Microsoft Hyper-V for virtualization.	Mar 21 14:21
schestowitz	XRevan86: heh	Mar 21 14:25
schestowitz	Seen it before	Mar 21 14:25
cubexyz	the 'oddball' OSes have hardware lists, e.g. QNX, Plan 9, etc	Mar 21 14:26
schestowitz	Apple fits better	Mar 21 14:26
schestowitz	with its 'i' things	Mar 21 14:26
cubexyz	no one is going to want to get locked out	Mar 21 14:26
schestowitz	two OSes, OSuX and hypeOS	Mar 21 14:27
schestowitz	Google has ChromeOS and Android	Mar 21 14:27
schestowitz	Microsoft has, well... Windows{r)	Mar 21 14:27
schestowitz	but used to have Windows Mobile	Mar 21 14:27
cubexyz	I'm sure IBM isn't going to use Windows 10 on their mainframes	Mar 21 14:27
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cubexyz	everyone will just have to be a bit more observant	Mar 21 14:29
cubexyz	I assume what will actually happen is that all or at least most motherboards will have an option to turn off secure boot	Mar 21 14:30
schestowitz	wb zoobab	Mar 21 14:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: Or so it seems.	Mar 21 14:31
XRevan86	since Microsoft made that move, they've made it for something	Mar 21 14:32
XRevan86	I've seen a suggestion that it's for making top laptops SecureBoot-only.	Mar 21 14:33
cubexyz	there's been cases of firmware hardcoded for Windows... on certain Lenovo laptops	Mar 21 14:34
cubexyz	so it's a reasonable concern	Mar 21 14:34
cubexyz	I know FSF runs a fair bit of old hardware, as I do	Mar 21 14:36
cubexyz	there could also be UEFI motherboards without secureboot	Mar 21 14:38
MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/w4cgjdU.jpg	Mar 21 14:39
cubexyz	another problem is the microcontroller in the chipset itself often needs a signed firmware binary	Mar 21 14:44
cubexyz	I don't think even google has this intel source code	Mar 21 14:45
cubexyz	but... here's the thing... a bunch of firmware code is in the wild already	Mar 21 14:46
cubexyz	I hear that microsoft tools are nearly always used, so yes Microsoft without a doubt has a lot of influence	Mar 21 14:49
cubexyz	the leaks I know about are 1999 award bios and 2011 AMI firmware code	Mar 21 14:50
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cubexyz	gluglug offers an aftermarket service.. you send your Thinkpad (only certain models) and gluglug will put libreboot firmware on it	Mar 21 14:57
cubexyz	also you get Atheros AR5B95 wifi adapter installed, so you can use linux drivers for wifi without needing any binary blobs	Mar 21 14:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @Pinekatz What's broken can't be fixed without changing the system imo. At this point I'd never ever advice Americans to 1/2		Mar 21 17:01
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msb_	cubexyz: Does that PCB maker machine work with boards that have wiring on top and bottom, and a ground-plane in the middle?	Mar 21 17:51
cubexyz	msb_, I was just told about it by a Waterloo employee today	Mar 21 17:53
cubexyz	there's more info at:	Mar 21 17:53
cubexyz	http://www.voltera.io	Mar 21 17:53
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msb_	cubexyz: I don't see the answer there. From the terminology they use, I think my question would seem very stupid to them. I've never made a PCB.	Mar 21 17:55
cubexyz	it's a two layer board so you could be right	Mar 21 17:56
msb_	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR-4	Mar 21 17:57
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msb_	doesn't say anything about a ground plane	Mar 21 17:57
msb_	don't you need a ground plane for high speed (computer) circuitry	Mar 21 17:58
msb_	?	Mar 21 17:58
msb_	to avoid crosstalk between nearby traces	Mar 21 17:59
cubexyz	no I think you're right	Mar 21 18:00
cubexyz	every motherboard has a ground plane	Mar 21 18:00
msb_	a power plane is nice too	Mar 21 18:00
msb_	I think mobos are about 6 layer	Mar 21 18:00
cubexyz	it's copper foil usually	Mar 21 18:01
cubexyz	not sure what Voltera does	Mar 21 18:01
msb_	I think they just make the fab machine (for about $1800). You buy the boards elsewhere.	Mar 21 18:02
cubexyz	there's blank boards of different sizes	Mar 21 18:04
msb_	with a groundplane the traces act like transmission lines. Without it they act like antennas.	Mar 21 18:04
cubexyz	you get a few blank boards with it	Mar 21 18:05
cubexyz	beats wire wrapping :)	Mar 21 18:08
cubexyz	I wonder how long it took DEC to make a PDP-11	Mar 21 18:09
msb_	I thought God created the PDP-11 and DEC just sold them.	Mar 21 18:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xiaomi Mi Note is the best 'made in China'	Mar 21 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	phone you've never heard of	Mar 21 21:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plague Inc: Evolved Now In Beta For Linux	Mar 21 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calibre 2.22 Officially Released, Offers Faster	Mar 21 22:00
TweetTuxMachines	Metadata Download from Amazon	Mar 21 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Tweak Tool Updated for GNOME 3.16 with	Mar 21 22:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kat Walsh joins FSF board of directors	Mar 21 23:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Neptune 4.3 Release is Based on Debian 7.8	Mar 21 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	Wheezy and Linux Kernel 3.16.3 - Screenshot	Mar 21 23:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Control Center Updated to Support Firefox	Mar 21 23:44
TweetTuxMachines	Nightly Builds in GNOME 3.14	Mar 21 23:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Control Center 3.14.3 Brings Support for	Mar 15 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	NetworkManager 1.0 http://t.co/4mrpdcMobJ	Mar 15 00:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Meizu M1 Note confirmed to go international	Mar 15 00:35
TweetTuxMachines	after Ubuntu Touch-powered variant	Mar 15 00:35
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DaemonFC	http://action.sumofus.org/a/grand-canyon/	Mar 15 02:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.1 Hides A Little Secret - Google VPN	Mar 15 07:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro XFCE 0.9.0-pre4 edition released	Mar 15 08:00
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schestowitz	> "A 20-minute online video chat with a Maricopa County	Mar 15 08:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel Developers Summarize Linux Storage	Mar 15 08:52
TweetTuxMachines	Filesystem and Memory Management Summit	Mar 15 08:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Ported to Raspberry Pi 2	Mar 15 10:23
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux distribution based on Ubuntu that will	Mar 15 10:23
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TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/i7kItl63zu (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 10:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nitrux OS Is a Linux Distro Running on the NXQ Mini PC, Looks Amazing - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 15 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Lite 2.4 Beta is out	Mar 15 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lGG19ElYgB (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyj8	Mar 15 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Lite 2.4 Beta Brings Support for Microsoft’s exFAT File System - Softpedia		Mar 15 10:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dead Island, X Series and Broken Sword 5 Up to	Mar 15 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	75% Off on Steam http://t.co/ez0WQCAthU	Mar 15 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxarena.com)	Mar 15 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxarena.com \| Dead Island, X Series and Broken Sword 5 Up to 75% Off on Steam \| TuxArena		Mar 15 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyqq	Mar 15 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source: A Cross-Industry Hero	Mar 15 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gaDtOM4SAV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyqs	Mar 15 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open Source: A Cross-Industry Hero \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 10 Linux and Android Products from Mobile	Mar 15 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	World Congress http://t.co/txAiVLagBf	Mar 15 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 11:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyqu	Mar 15 11:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Top 10 Linux and Android Products from Mobile World Congress \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 11:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Expansion http://t.co/UJxMqPyBbH	Mar 15 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyy1	Mar 15 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Docker Expansion \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Ported to Raspberry Pi 2	Mar 15 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pYXiFRUBZn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyy2	Mar 15 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Ported to Raspberry Pi 2 \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Lite 2.4 Beta Brings Support for	Mar 15 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	Microsoft’s exFAT File System	Mar 15 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YtiPREsZBQ (error)	Mar 15 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyy3	Mar 15 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Lite 2.4 Beta Brings Support for Microsoft’s exFAT File System \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 12:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Purdue expands use of open-source software,	Mar 15 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	cuts costs http://t.co/0HGBhWYkMz	Mar 15 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz3s	Mar 15 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Purdue expands use of open-source software, cuts costs \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vendors "change the behaviour of their firmware	Mar 15 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	and breaking things in the process."	Mar 15 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ix3g0CY6Py (mjg59.dreamwidth.org)	Mar 15 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz3u	Mar 15 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org \| mjg59 \| Vendors continue to break things		Mar 15 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google reportedly building Android for virtual	Mar 15 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	reality hardware http://t.co/JV4YAIwGjG	Mar 15 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Mar 15 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Google reportedly building Android for virtual reality hardware \| ZDNet		Mar 15 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz3v	Mar 15 12:43
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__martin__	hello	Mar 15 12:47
XRevan86	__martin__: hi	Mar 15 12:47
__martin__	petition against increased surveillance reached 675+- signatants (including me) (=	Mar 15 12:47
__martin__	surely it been reshared enough // atm watching william binney's two hour long interview	Mar 15 12:48
__martin__	has	Mar 15 12:48
__martin__	*	Mar 15 12:48
__martin__	650**	Mar 15 12:49
__martin__	http://www.changenet.sk/?section=kampane&x=796541	Mar 15 12:49
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__martin__	http://dsl.sk/article.php?article=16777	Mar 15 12:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dsl.sk \| DSL.sk - Zkon prike odovzda ifrovacie ke ttu, vznikla hromadn pripomienka proti		Mar 15 12:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual	Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	but lags a bit in performance	Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VbjLkSgG78	Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	(mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk)	Mar 15 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk \| Linuxed - Exploring Linux distros: Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual but lags a bit in performance		Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6j	Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux distribution based on Ubuntu that will	Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	power the NXQ mini ARM PC."	Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/i7kItl63zu (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6k	Mar 15 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nitrux OS Is a Linux Distro Running on the NXQ Mini PC, Looks Amazing - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 Warning Signs That You’re Meant to Switch to	Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/d0eCoq2TZX	Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6l	Mar 15 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| 7 Warning Signs That You're Meant to Switch to Linux		Mar 15 13:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.04 Is Turning Out Quite Nice: A Good	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	Way To Try Out The Latest KDE Experience	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HJw2LRxGd8 (www.phoronix.com)	Mar 15 13:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6x	Mar 15 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Kubuntu 15.04 Is Turning Out Quite Nice: A Good Way To Try Out The Latest KDE Experience - Phoronix		Mar 15 13:06
*TweetTuxMachines @JRepin favourited 'Plasma is my new favorite desktop http://t.co/g6hra1Kmyv'		Mar 15 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com \| Plasma is my new favorite desktop \| OCS-Mag		Mar 15 13:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4 Linux Music Players That Deserve Your	Mar 15 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	Attention Now	Mar 15 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nDPZqZGxGm (www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 15 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzav	Mar 15 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| 4 Linux Music Players That Deserve Your Attention Now		Mar 15 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers	Mar 15 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	from Windows and Mac http://t.co/Zue0WQ4shN	Mar 15 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 15 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzaw	Mar 15 13:34
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XRevan86	> Didn’t know they watch Fox in Russia	Mar 15 13:37
XRevan86	schestowitz: Me too.	Mar 15 13:37
schestowitz	http://rt.com/usa/240829-kill-russians-fox-general-defiant/	Mar 15 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/jwzbb ]		Mar 15 13:37
*TweetTuxMachines @kdecommunity favourited 'Kubuntu 15.04 Is Turning Out Quite Nice: A...'		Mar 15 13:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Q&A: raw engineering on how open source	Mar 15 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	‘changed the world’ http://t.co/HJHCAPCvw0	Mar 15 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzcz	Mar 15 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Q&A: raw engineering on how open source ‘changed the world’ \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	but lags a bit in performance	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kXJtBwFn4t (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzd7	Mar 15 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual but lags a bit in performance \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 Warning Signs That You’re Meant to Switch to	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/tAi3vGUx3f	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzd8	Mar 15 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 Warning Signs That You’re Meant to Switch to Linux \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	from Windows and Mac http://t.co/6wnhxq9OEG	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzda	Mar 15 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4 reasons CIOs should give open source a second	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	look http://t.co/7ZwQqkiEG5	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 13:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzdb	Mar 15 13:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4 reasons CIOs should give open source a second look \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 13:50
*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Q&A: raw engineering on how open source ‘changed...'		Mar 15 13:50
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ArtVolumeOne/status/577113544128376832	Mar 15 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArtVolumeOne: @schestowitz @ioerror 11/14 & https://t.co/3FV0H8qo68 https://t.co/jMYlzTXtml		Mar 15 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArtVolumeOne: & you can be certain 'warring cyber tribes' of anti-NSA hackers who love to hack your personal data & the criminal enterprise that is NSA ..		Mar 15 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArtVolumeOne: Is there a diff btw some- hackers who criminally target/spy on people, reading/stealing emails/etc & unconstitutional dragnet spying of NSA?		Mar 15 14:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/577118441724882944	Mar 15 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz I'm still using 14/10/1066 as a reason to slag off, spy on and look down upon the people of Hastings.		Mar 15 14:47
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MinceR	geekings	Mar 15 17:22
XRevan86	MinceR: geekaluton	Mar 15 17:22
XRevan86	Lost Geekings 2: Gnuse by Gnusewest.	Mar 15 17:23
MinceR	XRevan86: "wlterm draws its own decoration" -- so much for that	Mar 15 17:25
XRevan86	MinceR: It's weston-terminal	Mar 15 17:27
XRevan86	MinceR: I was mistaken	Mar 15 17:27
MinceR	seems to be undocumented, in true lendows fashion	Mar 15 17:30
MinceR	afaik weston only supports CSD anyway	Mar 15 17:31
XRevan86	Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter when the promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear blue sky?	Mar 15 17:31
MinceR	i don't think i know what you mean	Mar 15 17:32
XRevan86	MinceR: It's a Pink Floyd quote. I mean that brave new world is coming.	Mar 15 17:32
MinceR	Huxley's?	Mar 15 17:33
XRevan86	MinceR: No, not that precise one.	Mar 15 17:33
MinceR	we're on the treshold of a new dark age	Mar 15 17:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5763453	Mar 15 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #ProDiseaser		Mar 15 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by juni_walet@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_f8aa46881c846f7a7b3a.jpg		Mar 15 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by juni_walet@pod.geraspora.de: https://pod.geraspora.de/uploads/images/thumb_medium_f8aa46881c846f7a7b3a.jpg		Mar 15 17:52
schestowitz	"I don't need an anti-virus, I use GNU/Linux. Microsoft and Apple are virii themselves. Dense population city dwelling is also the problem as to why people get diseases (ie: Babylon)"	Mar 15 17:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765269	Mar 15 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Have all the 'moderate' 'rebels' defected to IS yet? http://www.christiantoday.com/article/us.syria.strategy.in.peril.with.collapse.of.cia.backed.rebel.group/49354.htm http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/05/us-mideast-crisis-syria-hazzm-idUSKBN0M10GV20150305		Mar 15 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.christiantoday.com \| US Syria strategy in peril with collapse of CIA-backed rebel group \| Christian News on Christian Today [ http://ur1.ca/jx0ps ]		Mar 15 17:52
schestowitz	":D"	Mar 15 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reuters.com \| U.S. Syria strategy falters with collapse of rebel group \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/jx0pt ]		Mar 15 17:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5764765	Mar 15 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Highlighting to #drone operators who they kill (refuting #pentagon #propaganda that calls kids "Al Qaeda") helps halt counterproductive war		Mar 15 17:53
schestowitz	"Or accelerate shift to autonomous drones.."	Mar 15 17:53
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765142	Mar 15 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Imagine the headline "Obama Alive, Sick With Flu Despite Death Rumors" and then open this http://www.ibtimes.com/vladimir-putin-alive-sick-flu-despite-death-rumors-cia-source-tells-gawker-1847248		Mar 15 17:53
schestowitz	"I read this week in a silly forum that Putin nuked Kiev and all the Russian embassies were closing. Why would Russia nuke Kiev? That's like killing mosquitoes with cannons, not to mention a nice radiation hotspot near Moscow."	Mar 15 17:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ibtimes.com \| Vladimir Putin Alive, Sick With Flu Despite Death Rumors, CIA Source Tells Gawker [ http://ur1.ca/jx0pv ]		Mar 15 17:53
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765226	Mar 15 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "a ‘dark alliance’ between the CIA, Nicaraguan rebels and cocaine traffickers." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2982055/CIA-scandal-got-lost-amid-obsession-Monica-Lewinsky.html good film		Mar 15 18:31
schestowitz	"gonna watch so..."	Mar 15 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dailymail.co.uk \| CIA scandal that got lost amid our obsession with Monica Lewinsky: Kill the Messenger is reminiscent of All The President's Men, writes BRIAN VINER \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jx0z0 ]		Mar 15 18:31
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5764523	Mar 15 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Editorial Board of #bostonglobe speaks for corporations http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2015/03/09/nsa-should-respect-corporations-privacy/bBlH5u2tWUpfcYGDRISG1H/story.html because, hey, they're better than people, right?		Mar 15 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bostonglobe.com \| NSA should respect corporations’ privacy - Editorials - The Boston Globe [ http://ur1.ca/jx0z5 ]		Mar 15 18:32
schestowitz	"Think of the corporations, at least he US ones."	Mar 15 18:32
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5764760	Mar 15 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This article claims the protesters targeted PTSD, but it's made up BS that diverts sympathy to the killers http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/03/06/drone-warfare-veterans-ptsd		Mar 15 18:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.takepart.com \| Dozens Arrested in Protest to End Drone Warfare and Protect Soldiers’ Mental Health \| TakePart [ http://ur1.ca/jx0zb ]		Mar 15 18:32
schestowitz	"I had the idea that problems cannot be solved by criminalizing dissent. Time to sanction US officials?"	Mar 15 18:32
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765256	Mar 15 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: CIA Papers Suggest Murder of Ecuador's Former President http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/CIA-Papers-Suggest-Murder-of-Ecuadors-Former-President-20150311-0034.html "freedom and democracy"?		Mar 15 18:33
schestowitz	"hahahah"	Mar 15 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telesurtv.net \| CIA Papers Suggest Murder of Ecuador's Former President \| News \| teleSUR [ http://ur1.ca/jx0p9 ]		Mar 15 18:33
DaemonFC	http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/15/uk-first-poo-bio-bus-bristol-regular-service	Mar 15 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| UK's first 'poo bus' goes into regular service \| UK news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jx13y ]		Mar 15 18:59
DaemonFC	"I see the number two is late again."	Mar 15 18:59
DaemonFC	"I hope it doesn't have to suddenly stop or it might leave skid marks."	Mar 15 18:59
MinceR	:>	Mar 15 19:06
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxZTS2XWRA0TSX	Mar 15 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: "They already control Tehran!" said Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) of the Iranian regime. [ http://ur1.ca/jx19y ]		Mar 15 19:34
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Mar 15 19:35
DaemonFC	http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/03/15/3633912/tom-cotton-alarmed-capital-iran-controlled-iran/	Mar 15 19:35
DaemonFC	"They already control Tehran!" said Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) of the Iranian regime.	Mar 15 19:35
DaemonFC	"Schieffer went on to ask Cotton whether he had any regrets at all about the letter. So he didn't clarify with Cotton what he meant by his comment that Iran has 'control' of its own capital."	Mar 15 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org \| Tom Cotton Alarmed That The Capital Of Iran Is Controlled By Iran \| ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/jx1a0 ]		Mar 15 19:35
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msb_	cubexyz: I'm watching Three	Mar 15 21:09
msb_	Days of the Condor (1975) and there's an old DEC computer in it -- I think a PDP-8. Two DECtapes.	Mar 15 21:10
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MinceR	https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8460256768/hB06A2542/	Mar 15 22:35
XRevan86	MinceR: Seems legit.	Mar 15 22:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/modalthetortois/status/577227051070926849	Mar 16 00:52
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chinahand/status/577215753914445824	Mar 16 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chinahand: @schestowitz @Thomas_Drake1 Don't know if there's a meaningful Kasperskey-Russia-Snowden link but I'm surprised it hasn't been asserted yet		Mar 16 00:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chinahand/status/577215753914445824?cn=cmVwbHk%3D	Mar 16 01:09
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cubexyz	msb_, quite right, it's a PDP-8/E	Mar 16 03:17
cubexyz	the most common PDP-8	Mar 16 03:18
msb_	cubexyz: Thanks!	Mar 16 03:21
msb_	Three Days of the Condor is a great movie!	Mar 16 03:25
msb_	At one point a C	Mar 16 03:26
cubexyz	I did a little bit of work with OS/8	Mar 16 03:26
cubexyz	also dabbled with DECSYS-7	Mar 16 03:26
msb_	At one point a CIA guy says it's ridiculous to think the US would invade the Middle East.	Mar 16 03:26
cubexyz	does Iraq count? :)	Mar 16 03:27
msb_	Maybe it was in 1975, but the US did it in 1990.	Mar 16 03:27
msb_	And again in 2001.	Mar 16 03:28
cubexyz	did you know Saddam banned mobile phones?	Mar 16 03:29
cubexyz	punishment could be death	Mar 16 03:29
msb_	Why?	Mar 16 03:29
cubexyz	no idea	Mar 16 03:29
msb_	The US murdered several million Iraquis in various attacks.	Mar 16 03:30
msb_	They never did anything to us.	Mar 16 03:30
msb_	The US sent its ambassador to Saddam and asked him to help stop Kuwait from pumping so much oil, which was lowering the price and costing Texas money.	Mar 16 03:33
msb_	So he did -- stopped Kuwait from slant-drilling under the boarder and stealing and selling Iraqui oil.	Mar 16 03:34
cubexyz	sounds like a good thing	Mar 16 03:34
msb_	The US responded by attacking Iraq and murdering millions.	Mar 16 03:34
cubexyz	didn't Saddam invade Kuwait though?	Mar 16 03:35
msb_	Yes, upon the secret request of US President GHW Bush.	Mar 16 03:36
msb_	The US govt is run by psychopaths.	Mar 16 03:37
cubexyz	at least the electric car seems to be gaining ground	Mar 16 03:38
cubexyz	so maybe in the future there won't be these battles over oil	Mar 16 03:38
msb_	Murder for profit is their primary principle of operation.	Mar 16 03:38
msb_	But the weapons companies will still want their huge profits.	Mar 16 03:39
msb_	so they will find something else to make war over.	Mar 16 03:39
msb_	It really is that simple.	Mar 16 03:40
msb_	They can make billions of dollars by murdering millions of innocent people.	Mar 16 03:40
msb_	And they do it. Because they are psychopaths, totally lacking in empathy.	Mar 16 03:41
cubexyz	want a good laugh? There's a video with Bill Gates explaining "how to fix Capitalism"	Mar 16 03:41
cubexyz	it got big negative feedback	Mar 16 03:42
msb_	Step one: get rid of Bill Gates.	Mar 16 03:42
cubexyz	no argument there	Mar 16 03:42
msb_	That is humanity's problem. Psychopaths have gradually learned to organize together, and are enriching themselves by destroying people and the planet.	Mar 16 03:44
msb_	The only way we can survive is to learn about psychopaths and what they do, learn to recognize them and get them out of power, and -- most difficult -- learn to recognize the psychopath behaviors and beliefs that have become embedded in our culture and economics:	Mar 16 03:47
msb_	The vindictive sky-god of the JCI religions. Unregulated competition in economics.	Mar 16 03:48
msb_	Patriotism -- the idea that "our" people are superior to all others and we have the right to rob and murder them.	Mar 16 03:49
msb_	Male supremacy.	Mar 16 03:50
msb_	Genital mutilation.	Mar 16 03:50
msb_	All these social principles program normal people into becoming psychopaths.	Mar 16 03:51
msb_	Programming not to think.	Mar 16 03:52
msb_	Banning of psychedelics and encouragement to use alcohol.	Mar 16 03:52
msb_	Assigning ranks to people with the higher ones given the ability to control and exploit those below them.	Mar 16 03:53
msb_	Psychopaths have learned how to get themselves into the highest ranks of the domination/control pyramid.	Mar 16 03:54
msb_	Acceptance of wildly disparate wealth distribution.	Mar 16 03:56
msb_	Belief that that is morally right.	Mar 16 03:56
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msb_	Unceasing corporate broadcasting of lies that serve the ruling psychopaths.	Mar 16 03:57
msb_	People would be able to resist and overcome any one of these things, or even a few of them.	Mar 16 03:58
msb_	But all of them together have turned people into robot-zombies -- mere consumers and cannon-fodder.	Mar 16 03:59
msb_	Unless people can wake up and become aware of the psychopaths and their cultural/economic infiltration/permeation, we will be doomed.	Mar 16 04:01
msb_	Even science has been distorted. People who expose the injury caused by many vaccines, and by GMO food (poisoned with glyphosate and Bt toxin), and the suppression of the efficacy of Vitamin	Mar 16 04:06
msb_	Even science has been distorted. People who expose the injury caused by many vaccines, and by GMO food (poisoned with glyphosate and Bt toxin), and the suppression of the efficacy of Vitamin C, and the obvious demolition of the WTC by explosives.	Mar 16 04:07
msb_	Such people are smeared as "conspiracy theorists" instead of the truth-tellers that they are.	Mar 16 04:08
msb_	I just found out today that dandelion root is another apoptosis promoter, and so a universal anticancer substance, like the others listed here: http://cosmicpenguin.com/cancer/	Mar 16 04:11
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msb_	Oh Wow! That's how Cannabis cures cancer also! Google-advanced for CBD apoptosis.	Mar 16 04:16
msb_	Cannabidiol induces apoptosis in glioma, breast cancer, leukemia, pancreatic tumors, prostate and colon cancer...!	Mar 16 04:18
msb_	We now know how to remedy virtually all cancers and all viral infections, using substances that are harmless to normal cells and tissues.	Mar 16 04:21
msb_	And these remedial substances don't even need genetic engineering or any other kind of high tech.	Mar 16 04:24
msb_	Except for manufacturing large amounts of Vitamin	Mar 16 04:25
msb_	Except for manufacturing large amounts of Vitamin C: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascorbic_acid#Industrial_preparation	Mar 16 04:25
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msb_	Which is still so cheap you can buy it for $10 a pound.	Mar 16 04:26
msb_	All the other substances just grow in the ground.	Mar 16 04:26
cubexyz	just eat lots of oranges	Mar 16 04:34
cubexyz	then you get fibre and vitamin C	Mar 16 04:34
cubexyz	OS/8 could be considered the grandfather of CP/M	Mar 16 04:42
cubexyz	DEC might have ending up becoming the most open company of all time	Mar 16 04:49
cubexyz	we have the engineering drawings for most of the PDP series	Mar 16 04:50
cubexyz	and the source code for most of the DEC operating systems	Mar 16 04:50
cubexyz	I was surprised at how small the PDP-11/05 was	Mar 16 04:52
cubexyz	not much bigger than an IBM AT	Mar 16 04:52
msb_	cubexyz: Oranges are yummy, but they contain only 50 to 80mg of Vitamin C. Most mammals produce up to 70 grams of C per 150lb of body weight if they have a serious viral infection.	Mar 16 04:53
cubexyz	I remember one guy saying almost everyone was deficient in iron	Mar 16 04:54
cubexyz	but those multi-vitamin pills with iron tasted gross	Mar 16 04:55
msb_	cubexyz: People need that much to fight off a a serious viral infection too, but that would require eating 1,000 oranges per day.	Mar 16 04:55
cubexyz	msb_, what if you're not infected with a virus? How much vitamin C do you need then?	Mar 16 04:55
msb_	A few oranges a day is only enough to prevent scurvy.	Mar 16 04:55
cubexyz	I think the daily recommended intake for vitamin C is 65 to 90 mg per day	Mar 16 04:56
cubexyz	I'm no expert though	Mar 16 04:57
msb_	cubexyz: 5 to 10 grams/day is good. A rounded teaspoon of ascorbic acid powder in a cup of water with a saccharin tablet once or twice a day will do it nicely, and tastes good.	Mar 16 04:57
msb_	Rinse your mouth afterward with a little baking soda or Mg	Mar 16 04:58
msb_	Rinse your mouth afterward with a little baking soda (don't swallow) or MgCO3 in water (good to swallow) so the Vit C doesn't etch your teeth.	Mar 16 04:59
cubexyz	wow, 10 grams seems like a lot	Mar 16 04:59
msb_	The RDA is designed to prevent people from knowing about the normal amounts of C in mammals, and to maintain the profits of Big Pharma for vaccines and flu symptom reliever drugs.	Mar 16 05:00
msb_	cubexyz: No. The govt is lying to us.	Mar 16 05:00
msb_	Healthy mammals of human body weight produce 4 to 10 grams of C per day. They need it, and so do we.	Mar 16 05:01
msb_	http://www.whale.to/a/stone1979b.html	Mar 16 05:03
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cubexyz	yes, I see an adult goat produces 13 grams per day	Mar 16 05:04
msb_	cubexyz: If you believe the govt and Big Pharma, you will end up being a lot less healthy than a goat.	Mar 16 05:04
cubexyz	I don't trust Big Pharma at all :)	Mar 16 05:06
cubexyz	Johnson & Johnson sold pills that did nothing	Mar 16 05:06
msb_	Vit. C was used to easily cure polio in the late 1940s.	Mar 16 05:07
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/4-Origin_Of_Vitamin_C_Treatment_For_Polio-Klenner.html	Mar 16 05:07
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msb_	But the information was suppressed and we were given the Salk and Sabin vaccines, both of which contained the SV-40 cancer virus.	Mar 16 05:08
cubexyz	no one can really suppress information these days	Mar 16 05:08
cubexyz	but back in the 1940s I bet they could	Mar 16 05:09
msb_	They still can unless knowledgeable people make a strong effort to spread the info widely.	Mar 16 05:09
msb_	Otherwise the psychopaths simply overwhelm the truth by sheer volume of lies.	Mar 16 05:10
msb_	All of the TV, radio, newspaper, and magazine news lies about these things. And that's where most people get their information and world-view.	Mar 16 05:11
cubexyz	yes the "news" on tv is just a business for profit	Mar 16 05:14
cubexyz	it's not good	Mar 16 05:14
msb_	You and I are citizens of Cyberspace, but most people are not.	Mar 16 05:14
msb_	https://projects.eff.org/~barlow/Declaration-Final.html	Mar 16 05:15
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msb_	We should constantly tell people about news sites like these: http://globalresearch.ca/ http://journal-neo.org/	Mar 16 05:18
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msb_	cubexyz: It's just a guess, but I think the 9/11 and subsequent false-flag attacks were done as an excuse for fascist militarization of the world, to _fight against_ humanity's increased communication ability via the Net.	Mar 16 05:42
msb_	That's why the organized psychopaths started their War of Terror in the new Millennium.	Mar 16 05:43
msb_	We're told to accept censorship and surveillance because: "Don't you know there's a war on?"	Mar 16 05:45
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cubexyz	http://www.nationofchange.org/bill-gates-dodges-questions-why-he-owns-500000-shares-monsanto-1360684583	Mar 16 06:55
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cubexyz	the sad truth:	Mar 16 06:58
cubexyz	you correctly point out that computers are full of toxic substances, and yet do not admonish a man more responsible than most for their proliferation across the globe. Don't forget that the mining and manufacturing processes for computer chips and other components leave and spread socio-enviro-political debris. Talk about poisoning the environment.	Mar 16 06:58
cubexyz	That's the reason why I advocate reuse and repair of old computers	Mar 16 06:59
cubexyz	Our society is unbelieveably wasteful	Mar 16 07:01
cubexyz	this book is small enough... may as well share it:	Mar 16 07:03
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/the-waste-makers-vance-packard.pdf	Mar 16 07:04
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schestowitz	> It's a very negative depiction of open source in mainstream	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	> entertainment, akin to this one:	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	>	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/20/disney_sitcom_open_source_insecure/	Mar 16 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Disney sitcom says open source is insecure • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/9zrgv ]		Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	Ah, yes, I didn't read into it. To be fair, the term comes from intel'	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	>>> http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/03/13/state-dept-shuts-down-parts-of-unclassified-computer-network	Mar 16 10:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'www.usnews.com' ( status 0 @ http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/03/13/state-dept-shuts-down-parts-of-unclassified-computer-network )		Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	>>> >>	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	>>> >> -	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	>>> >>	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	>>> >> http://abcnews.go.com/US/state-dept-shuts-email-cyber-attack/story?id=29624866	Mar 16 10:23
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schestowitz	>>> >>	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	>>> >> still not running... aren't these the ones that have been up and down	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	>>> >> for ages?	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	>> >	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	>> > Any reports about prior issues?	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	> Yes, as far as I recall those are the same ones that have been	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	> constantly cracked and/or down for several months (or years).	Mar 16 10:23
schestowitz	Will help pass the new 'cyber' laws...	Mar 16 10:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| First-person Puzzler Parallax - Game No. 1000 On Steam For Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Mar 16 10:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bundle Stars 'Crimson Bundle' Has 5 Linux Games	Mar 16 10:43
TweetTuxMachines	For Cheap https://t.co/DpUbtn6oAt	Mar 16 10:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Mar 16 10:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines March 13 Update for Manjaro Linux 0.8.12 Brings	Mar 16 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	the Xfce 4.12 Desktop Environment	Mar 16 10:44
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zfpndjZkyK (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 10:44
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msb_	The entire episode of the anti-OpenSource Disney show can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHC07tqCSqg	Mar 16 11:45
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msb_	Downloaded with youtube-dl, the offensive scene begins at about 620seconds into the show. The open-source virus threatens to wreck all the computers in Tokyo, and then spread to the whole world.	Mar 16 11:48
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XRevan86	What's the point of making an open-source virus?	Mar 16 11:50
XRevan86	"Guys, you all can contribute to my open-source virus!"	Mar 16 11:50
cubexyz	maybe they uploaded the virus using a 3d unix gui :)	Mar 16 11:51
cubexyz	you can't expect these brainless shows to get anything right	Mar 16 11:51
msb_	The virus is said to be "hidden" in "open-source code".	Mar 16 11:52
XRevan86	msb_: As a regular expression? :D	Mar 16 11:53
XRevan86	reminds me of	Mar 16 11:53
XRevan86	echo "test... test... test..." \| perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=]=>%-{<-\|}<&\|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see'	Mar 16 11:53
XRevan86	(rm -rf /)	Mar 16 11:53
msb_	Maybe it was some early work of Lennart Poettering.	Mar 16 11:54
cubexyz	I think they confused freely available with open source	Mar 16 11:56
cubexyz	and freely available software might have malware	Mar 16 11:56
msb_	The show was aired Aug 17 2012, a 90-minute special.	Mar 16 11:57
cubexyz	Disney even supports Panda3d, which is open source	Mar 16 11:58
cubexyz	it's just badly written dialogue	Mar 16 11:58
msb_	Whoever wrote that dialog got the idea from some propaganda they heard, which no doubt originated from Microsoft.	Mar 16 11:59
cubexyz	possibly	Mar 16 12:00
msb_	MS published plenty of explicitly anti open-source propaganda.	Mar 16 12:00
cubexyz	I can't think of anything very recent	Mar 16 12:00
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html	Mar 16 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| MICROSOFT'S WAR AGAINST LINUX [ http://ur1.ca/6f05a ]		Mar 16 12:02
XRevan86	cubexyz: They're in Embrace stage, so what's the point of propaganda?	Mar 16 12:04
XRevan86	now	Mar 16 12:04
msb_	XRevan86: Are you hearing anything definite about Putin's health? Is there anyone else with the courage to resist the American Fascist Empire?	Mar 16 12:05
cubexyz	XRevan86, what era? There was the Get the Facts campaign at Best Buy	Mar 16 12:05
cubexyz	that was definitely FUD	Mar 16 12:05
XRevan86	cubexyz: 2014-2015	Mar 16 12:05
XRevan86	Microsoft ♥ Linux era.	Mar 16 12:05
cubexyz	oh that	Mar 16 12:06
XRevan86	msb_: No, I don't.	Mar 16 12:06
XRevan86	msb_: I don't care either %).	Mar 16 12:06
cubexyz	XRevan86, not sure what the deal is with M$ these days	Mar 16 12:07
msb_	You'll care if the H-bombs start to fall.	Mar 16 12:07
cubexyz	but embrace, extend, extinguish always seems apt	Mar 16 12:07
XRevan86	msb_: meh	Mar 16 12:08
cubexyz	I guess M$ has figured out many ways to make $$$ from Linux so why not say they 'love' it	Mar 16 12:08
cubexyz	Amazon, Google, Openstack all run Linux servers	Mar 16 12:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: They'd make more money by having Linux in /dev/null.	Mar 16 12:11
XRevan86	since they've failed to put Linux into /dev/null, they start to do something else.	Mar 16 12:11
cubexyz	I'd say the Genie is out of the bottle :)	Mar 16 12:11
cubexyz	one Doomsday Scenario was M$ controlling the internet itself	Mar 16 12:13
cubexyz	I'm sure they tried :)	Mar 16 12:13
msb_	cubexyz: The guy who died young a few months after he tried to move some of the root DNS servers out of the US...	Mar 16 12:17
cubexyz	Postel	Mar 16 12:18
msb_	Jon Postel	Mar 16 12:19
cubexyz	Stallman has health problems too	Mar 16 12:19
cubexyz	the result no doubt of an overly sendentary lifestyle	Mar 16 12:21
msb_	It's just a "conspiracy theory" that the ruling psychopaths who murder millions would attack the people who dare to oppose them.	Mar 16 12:21
cubexyz	that's why I'm trying to exercise more :)	Mar 16 12:21
cubexyz	I don't doubt that the pressure he was under accelerated his demise	Mar 16 12:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How this Australian university turned IT	Mar 16 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	management around with Red Hat	Mar 16 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sIfxy7msoc (www.futuregov.asia)	Mar 16 12:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.futuregov.asia \| How this Australian university turned IT management around with Red Hat \| 2015-03-11 \| FutureGov		Mar 16 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines March 13 Update for Manjaro Linux 0.8.12 Brings	Mar 16 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	the Xfce 4.12 Desktop Environment	Mar 16 12:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/x8qDpXkguA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 12:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| March 13 Update for Manjaro Linux 0.8.12 Brings the Xfce 4.12 Desktop Environment \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines German Greens ask Foreign Affairs to amend way	Mar 16 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/m3uUOrFb6x (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 12:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview with Abbigail Ward	Mar 16 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SxnAV97cJG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 12:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Krita 2.9.1 Released http://t.co/9IJMKXkDr1	Mar 16 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 12:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VMware wants amicable end to 'meritless'	Mar 16 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-lifting lawsuit http://t.co/76IsqRvENU	Mar 16 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 12:30
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cubexyz	chromebooks finally have carved out a good chunk of the market	Mar 16 12:42
cubexyz	where Be, Amiga and IBM failed, Google has succeeded	Mar 16 12:43
cubexyz	there's quite a list of OEMs making Chromebooks now: Samsung, ASUS, Toshiba, Acer, Lenovo, Dell and HP	Mar 16 12:48
msb_	cubexyz: According to wikipedia, chromebooks are thin clients that are designed to operate connected to the Net, and use apps from a google cloud which the user pays for. Is that right?	Mar 16 12:53
cubexyz	msb_, well that's true out of the box but you can put a linux distro on it if you want	Mar 16 12:53
cubexyz	msb_, I don't know about any extra fees for the google cloud, I'll have to check that	Mar 16 12:54
msb_	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_Web_Store	Mar 16 12:56
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cubexyz	I think the deal is 15 gigs for free, and you can get 100 gigs for $1.99 per month	Mar 16 12:57
cubexyz	my main reason for liking chromebooks was the FOSS firmware	Mar 16 12:58
msb_	cubexyz: that's cloud space for storing your data?	Mar 16 12:58
cubexyz	msb_, yes	Mar 16 12:58
msb_	How much disk or SSD do they have?	Mar 16 12:59
cubexyz	usually 16 gigs	Mar 16 12:59
msb_	wowie	Mar 16 12:59
msb_	looks like they're mainly designed to be an ongoing source of profit for Google	Mar 16 13:00
msb_	I guess you can load Linux on it and connect it to an external disk drive via USB	Mar 16 13:01
cubexyz	you can get 256GB ssd's for it	Mar 16 13:02
cubexyz	the other obvious advantage is no microsoft tax	Mar 16 13:07
msb_	what price for the 256GB ssd's ?	Mar 16 13:10
cubexyz	Microsoft forced Hitachi to hide the BeOS partition on the Hitachi Flora Prius (late 1990s), so Chromebooks are huge progress	Mar 16 13:10
cubexyz	around $115, maybe less in the US	Mar 16 13:11
msb_	Computers should be sold with bios that simply does not permit mswindows to be loaded. That would fix the tax problem.	Mar 16 13:12
cubexyz	msb_, there is such a BIOS, Lemote's PMON	Mar 16 13:12
cubexyz	the problem is no one sells Lemote in North America	Mar 16 13:13
msb_	Gee I wonder why	Mar 16 13:13
msb_	cubexyz: did you watch _Antitrust_ ?	Mar 16 13:15
cubexyz	not yet	Mar 16 13:15
cubexyz	there's this site, but everyone seems to be low on stock:	Mar 16 13:18
cubexyz	http://www.freedomincluded.com/	Mar 16 13:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedomincluded.com \| Freedom Included Inc - Free Software Friendly Hardware		Mar 16 13:19
XRevan86	Who knows what seems to be the problem in Brazil?	Mar 16 13:54
XRevan86	(not the movie)	Mar 16 13:54
cubexyz	Stallman had his laptop stolen in Argentina back in 2012	Mar 16 14:09
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DaemonFC	http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/people-who-use-firefox-or-chrome-are-better-employees/387781/?utm_source=SFFB	Mar 16 14:26
DaemonFC	A new study shows why you may want to fill out job applications using Chrome or Firefox.	Mar 16 14:26
DaemonFC	Users of Internet Explorer and Safari were found to be less productive and more likely to quit their jobs sooner.	Mar 16 14:26
DaemonFC	Said the article,	Mar 16 14:26
DaemonFC	"Cornerstone OnDemand, a company that sells software that helps employers recruit and retain workers, analyzed data on about 50,000 people who took its 45-minute online job assessment (which is like a thorough personality test) and then were successfully hired at a firm using its software. These candidates ended up working customer-service and sales jobs for companies in industries such as telecommunications, retail, and hospitality.	Mar 16 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com \| People Who Use Firefox or Chrome Are Better Employees — The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/jx64k ]		Mar 16 14:26
DaemonFC	Cornerstone's researchers found that people who took the test on a non-default browser, such as Firefox or Chrome, ended up staying at their jobs about 15 percent longer than those who stuck with Safari or Internet Explorer. They performed better on the job as well. (These statistics were roughly the same for both Mac and PC users.)"	Mar 16 14:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@rmsthebot @tuxmachines Please say GNU/Linux or GNU+Linux	Mar 16 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	!	Mar 16 14:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Xfce 0.9.0 Promises to Bring the	Mar 16 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	Best Xfce 4.12 Experience Possible	Mar 16 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aUNchABbHV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 14:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Linux Xfce 0.9.0 Promises to Bring the Best Xfce 4.12 Experience Possible \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM teams with BlackBerry and Samsung to offer	Mar 16 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	governments a secure Android tablet	Mar 16 14:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qfGCg2qnYh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 14:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Themes Of The Day http://t.co/f10HxUf0Ll	Mar 16 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 14:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Themes Of The Day \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever to	Mar 16 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	Just Do Stuff http://t.co/MdBIOWsSv3	Mar 16 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 14:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever to Just Do Stuff \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Feds look to developers to improve big data,	Mar 16 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	open source projects http://t.co/ZLiuaaXIDT	Mar 16 14:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 14:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chakra 2015.03 Screenshot Tour	Mar 16 16:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Chakra 2015.03 Screenshot Tour \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 16:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Software Fuels a Revolution in Data	Mar 16 16:43
TweetTuxMachines	Science http://t.co/y11jM8s4Tl	Mar 16 16:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 16:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Dell's Ubuntu-powered M3800 Mobile	Mar 16 16:43
TweetTuxMachines	Workstation is a desktop destroyer	Mar 16 16:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TGUxCHoGrk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 16:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google rolls out Android 5.1: Five new features	Mar 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TU9zvFYGkV	Mar 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	(timesofindia.indiatimes.com)	Mar 16 17:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.0-rc4 http://t.co/zGgwzR71gx (lwn.net)	Mar 16 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9296XkEMj3 (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 17:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Krita 2.9.1 Released https://t.co/sNljWNgfQo	Mar 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	(krita.org)	Mar 16 17:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ownCloud Client 1.8 Will Bring HIDPI, Qt 5.4,	Mar 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	and Desktop Sharing Support	Mar 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Eo7oHLmjPE (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 17:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #Qomp Simple & Easy Music Player Reaches	Mar 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	Version 0.8 http://t.co/EoP3KXXT4v	Mar 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxarena.com)	Mar 16 17:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines apt install dpl-candidate: Neil McGovern	Mar 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zjhFdGD2Zk (bits.debian.org)	Mar 16 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	"involved with Debian for over 10 years now."	Mar 16 17:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview with Abbigail Ward	Mar 16 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/n0fmCmi1fK (krita.org)	Mar 16 17:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org \| Interview with Abbigail Ward \| Krita		Mar 16 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VMware wants amicable end to 'meritless'	Mar 16 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-lifting lawsuit http://t.co/3bIzedjY2b	Mar 16 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Mar 16 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| VMware wants amicable end to 'meritless' Linux-lifting lawsuit • The Register		Mar 16 17:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Robolinux 7.8.3 Released with Five Powerful	Mar 16 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	Privacy and Security Applications	Mar 16 17:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Tyos50695O (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 17:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Xfce 0.9.0 Promises to Bring the	Mar 16 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	Best Xfce 4.12 Experience Possible	Mar 16 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vslzFH2jj7 (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 17:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM teams with BlackBerry and Samsung to offer	Mar 16 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	governments a secure Android tablet	Mar 16 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oxzYqoHrnF (www.infoworld.com)	Mar 16 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7c3	Mar 16 17:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever to	Mar 16 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	Just Do Stuff http://t.co/tFS7s4Q5qm	Mar 16 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 16 17:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Dell's Ubuntu-powered M3800 Mobile	Mar 16 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	Workstation is a desktop destroyer	Mar 16 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OogbPcKgXs (www.networkworld.com)	Mar 16 17:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Building a pre-release Linux testbed with	Mar 16 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	openSuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, and more	Mar 16 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nfUD3EFi2J (www.zdnet.com)	Mar 16 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7d1	Mar 16 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Building a pre-release Linux testbed with openSuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, and more \| ZDNet		Mar 16 17:49
*TweetTuxMachines @StephDAVOS favourited 'Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever...'		Mar 16 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Meet Blueberry, Linux Mint’s New Bluetooth	Mar 16 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	Setup Tool http://t.co/iGRCNBomt0	Mar 16 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Mar 16 18:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Building a pre-release Linux testbed with	Mar 16 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	openSuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, and more	Mar 16 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6CTYXVUmJB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 18:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7jg	Mar 16 18:19
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MinceR	http://media.tumblr.com/22e73dcca91af3915feb2b609a4fb891/tumblr_inline_nlb17igDw31t63ajm.jpg	Mar 16 18:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Preview of GNOME usability results	Mar 16 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZYAqnKjZJS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7u7	Mar 16 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Preview of GNOME usability results \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha LXDE Screenshot Tour	Mar 16 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LwlTKoQKL9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7u8	Mar 16 19:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet Default Wallpaper	Mar 16 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	Revealed http://t.co/ovxauGsiXH	Mar 16 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.webupd8.org)	Mar 16 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org \| Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet Default Wallpaper Revealed ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog		Mar 16 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7ua	Mar 16 19:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Macaw-Movies is a movie collection manager. It	Mar 16 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	is now about to be in the KDE Family!"	Mar 16 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ci3WN3jhHb	Mar 16 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	(macawmovies.wordpress.com)	Mar 16 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx8cr	Mar 16 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-macawmovies.wordpress.com \| Macaw-Movies in the KDE incubator \| Macaw-Movies		Mar 16 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 9 Quirky Linux Commands You Need to Know (And	Mar 16 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	Will Love)	Mar 16 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/S1FFeZMyN2 (www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 16 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx8cs	Mar 16 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| 9 Quirky Linux Commands You Need to Know (And Will Love)		Mar 16 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines We need open data to become the new open source	Mar 16 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0nh6mtfc28 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx8ct	Mar 16 20:29
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx932	Mar 16 23:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evince 3.14.2 Is an Important Bugfix Update for	Mar 17 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME 3.14 http://t.co/PDoJPKsrRX	Mar 17 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 05:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Evince 3.14.2 Is an Important Bugfix Update for GNOME 3.14 - Softpedia		Mar 17 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxai2	Mar 17 05:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Spec Ops: The Line Looks Like It's Coming To	Mar 17 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/JlxVWqoZ1C	Mar 17 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Mar 17 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxali	Mar 17 05:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Spec Ops: The Line Looks Like It's Coming To Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Mar 17 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OnlyOffice Another Free Office Suite for Linux	Mar 17 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	(Complete Selfhost Office Solution - OwnCloud	Mar 17 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	Compatible) http://t.co/5GcOfvbki2	Mar 17 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxalk	Mar 17 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OnlyOffice Another Free Office Suite for Linux (Complete Selfhost Office Solution - OwnCloud Compatible) \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Scientific Alpha	Mar 17 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/syg9peUIPX (echorand.me)	Mar 17 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxall	Mar 17 05:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-echorand.me \| Fedora 22 Scientific Alpha \| Programming and writing about it.		Mar 17 05:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 free Android apps that are worth checking	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	out http://t.co/oPUMcp5Cal	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techrepublic.com) using material design:	Mar 17 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| 10 free Android apps that are worth checking out - TechRepublic		Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vlqgA2Q5sM (thenextweb.com)	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxaqz	Mar 17 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com \| The 15 best Android apps that use material design		Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pre-Sequel Claptastic Voyage DLC for	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Also Launches in	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	Linux	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/a45qWGZLoG (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar0	Mar 17 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Pre-Sequel Claptastic Voyage DLC for Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Also Launches in Linux - Softpedia		Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Design Suite 22 Alpha	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HVEWfT5UJj (blog.thefinalzone.net)	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	"Gimp (Gmic), Inkscape (support of making	Mar 17 06:34
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TweetTuxMachines	tables) and Blender (LuxRender)"	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar1	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DOV5X3z7iX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar2	Mar 17 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple Watch app development pales in comparison	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	to Android Wear http://t.co/0uJI9jeKAN	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar3	Mar 17 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Apple Watch app development pales in comparison to Android Wear \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny SBC runs Android and Linux on Snapdragon	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	410 http://t.co/cX7VyMgoo6	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 06:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar4	Mar 17 06:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	support http://t.co/GGfPNOZzJL	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxark	Mar 17 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux support \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Flavours http://t.co/28P3bGU42s	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxarl	Mar 17 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora Flavours \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Check out what’s on Jon’s Android tablet	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lteObp5Stk (www.technobuffalo.com)	Mar 17 06:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxarm	Mar 17 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com \| Check out what's on Jon's Android tablet \| TechnoBuffalo		Mar 17 06:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/577719344295120896	Mar 17 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: It's not only #systemd 😉 ♺ @schestowitz The sad state of #sysadmin in the age of containers http://t.co/gJeEY7qlwD #GNU/#Linux #docker #NSA		Mar 17 06:38
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schestowitz	rPath came from Red Hat	Mar 17 06:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Featured: Top 10 Best Games For Android – March	Mar 17 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	2015 Edition http://t.co/yZeHHftDGt	Mar 17 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Mar 17 07:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com \| Featured: Top 10 Best Games For Android - March 2015 Edition \| Androidheadlines.com		Mar 17 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxax7	Mar 17 07:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling	Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	Challenges http://t.co/x4U1kmeCYk	Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxax8	Mar 17 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling Challenges \| Linux.com		Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling	Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	Challenges http://t.co/zQQp8ZEoXK	Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxax9	Mar 17 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling Challenges \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Customer Service and Open Source Software: A	Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	Budding Relationship http://t.co/nQ9mYzXujP	Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxaxb	Mar 17 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Customer Service and Open Source Software: A Budding Relationship \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Strange Bedfellows and Linux Reviews	Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AxcnUFkrmx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 07:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxaxe	Mar 17 07:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Strange Bedfellows and Linux Reviews \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 07:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.4.2 Release Candidate 1 Is Now	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	Available for Download http://t.co/dETYUukXoh	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb46	Mar 17 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.4.2 Release Candidate 1 Is Now Available for Download \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PTSqt1t31R (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb48	Mar 17 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1 and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 17/3/2015: Linux 4.0 RC4, Calligra and	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	Krita 2.9.1 Released http://t.co/K8Ozbu0Ui2	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb49	Mar 17 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 17/3/2015: Linux 4.0 RC4, Calligra and Krita 2.9.1 Released \| Techrights		Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines An open source software updating tool	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Pr7j79KeO5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb4a	Mar 17 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| An open source software updating tool \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/25g2op9aAD	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb4b	Mar 17 08:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/nbQCKE9rBc	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb4c	Mar 17 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop	Mar 17 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jpNQQu5RU4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb6r	Mar 17 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released,	Mar 17 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	Here’s What’s New - Gallery	Mar 17 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JLVmmr8pV7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb6s	Mar 17 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released, Here’s What’s New - Gallery \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released,	Mar 17 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	Here’s What’s New - Gallery	Mar 17 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rLlw8Cwb9Q (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb6t	Mar 17 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released, Here’s What’s New - Gallery - Softpedia		Mar 17 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop	Mar 17 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/V8ewCcUz2f (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8t	Mar 17 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop - Softpedia		Mar 17 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1	Mar 17 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour	Mar 17 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/47HApQnRXq (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8u	Mar 17 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1 and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 17 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat 7.1 is here, CentOS 7.1 coming soon	Mar 17 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/MmX6MZtWAS (www.zdnet.com)	Mar 17 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8v	Mar 17 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat 7.1 is here, CentOS 7.1 coming soon \| ZDNet		Mar 17 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MIPS Creator CI20 v Raspberry Pi 2	Mar 17 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7jGcnbEN76 (www.linuxlinks.com)	Mar 17 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8w	Mar 17 08:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com \| MIPS Creator CI20 v Raspberry Pi 2 - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site		Mar 17 08:26
*TweetTuxMachines @Sugar_Faye followed @tuxmachines		Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Seamonkey review: Firefox’s lightweight	Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	hyper-functional cousin http://t.co/Wr7K3wifNy	Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxveda.com)	Mar 17 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| Seamonkey review: Firefox's lightweight hyper-functional cousin - Linux Veda		Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb9a	Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux	Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	support http://t.co/7b5Qq1U87K	Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Mar 17 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux support · LinuxGizmos.com		Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb9c	Mar 17 08:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny SBC runs Android and Linux on Snapdragon	Mar 17 08:37
TweetTuxMachines	410 http://t.co/SSYBIkRiFr (linuxgizmos.com)	Mar 17 08:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbbf	Mar 17 08:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple Watch app development pales in comparison	Mar 17 08:38
TweetTuxMachines	to Android Wear http://t.co/lyJgJUW9gn	Mar 17 08:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.networkworld.com)	Mar 17 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Apple Watch app development pales in comparison to Android Wear		Mar 17 08:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbbg	Mar 17 08:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks	Mar 17 08:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/dxkMorQwMH (arstechnica.com)	Mar 17 08:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbbh	Mar 17 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks \| Ars Technica		Mar 17 08:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Preview of GNOME usability results	Mar 17 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5E4JkUxc5p	Mar 17 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	(opensource-usability.blogspot.co.uk)	Mar 17 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource-usability.blogspot.co.uk \| Open Source Software & Usability: Preview of GNOME usability results		Mar 17 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbcj	Mar 17 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha LXDE Screenshot Tour	Mar 17 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/P7dT7yK0EA (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbck	Mar 17 08:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Best Android Phones [March, 2015]	Mar 17 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0T7XfYJAMT (www.gottabemobile.com)	Mar 17 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbcl	Mar 17 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com \| 5 Best Android Phones [March, 2015]		Mar 17 08:42
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5773885	Mar 17 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So-called Jihadi John: "MI5 had approached him... to work as an agent for them." -former MI5 agent http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2015/02/jihadi-john-and-mi5.html		Mar 17 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> anniemachon.ch \| Jihadi John and MI5 - Using Our Intelligence [ http://ur1.ca/jxbdf ]		Mar 17 08:47
schestowitz	"Same old routine- same with the Boston bombers, the Lee Rigby killers etc. For some reason people generally seem unable to join the dots"	Mar 17 08:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME's Virtual Filesystem Updated for GNOME	Mar 17 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	3.16, Obsolete ObexFTP Code Removed	Mar 17 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KFitZbpwLg (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbf2	Mar 17 08:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb	Mar 17 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	Choice for Running Linux in the Cloud	Mar 17 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nqn5VNHakt (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbf4	Mar 17 08:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma	Mar 17 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	5.0 Desktop http://t.co/Wu15Ofgz8r	Mar 17 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.hecticgeek.com)	Mar 17 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hecticgeek.com \| KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma 5.0 Desktop		Mar 17 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbf6	Mar 17 08:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Impressions of Ubuntu MATE 14.10	Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KXZ8GAzXDQ (distrowatch.com)	Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbg7	Mar 17 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com \| DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.		Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Review: Minimalist distro	Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	with superb performance http://t.co/UyiqxDBHF1	Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	(mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk)	Mar 17 09:01
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbg8	Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb	Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	Choice for Running Linux in the Cloud	Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/O7ZaJrAvv9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbga	Mar 17 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb Choice for Running Linux in the Cloud \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines St. Paddy's Day Special: 7 Irish open source	Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	developers http://t.co/MHhLsETcU5	Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbgd	Mar 17 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| St. Paddy's Day Special: 7 Irish open source developers \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma	Mar 17 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	5.0 Desktop http://t.co/UEQiSCWcMh	Mar 17 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbge	Mar 17 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma 5.0 Desktop \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Impressions of Ubuntu MATE 14.10	Mar 17 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iReLKRe5Lt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbgg	Mar 17 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Impressions of Ubuntu MATE 14.10 \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Review: Minimalist distro	Mar 17 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	with superb performance http://t.co/Iw7qy3VW4K	Mar 17 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbgh	Mar 17 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Review: Minimalist distro with superb performance \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 09:02
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5773804	Mar 17 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: "It is the secret scandal of capitalism that at no point has it been organised primarily around free labour" - David Graeber, Debt; The First 5000 Years #capitalism #labour #labor #debt #slavery #FreeMarkets		Mar 17 09:17
schestowitz	"Actually, it's just a bit more insidious than that. Because capitalism claims to be organized around free labor."	Mar 17 09:17
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schestowitz	MinceR: when you get the chance please consider sending irc logs for the 4 channels (please ;-))	Mar 17 12:19
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MinceR	geekings	Mar 17 14:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com \| In 2014, countries are still paying off debt from World War One – Quartz [ http://ur1.ca/jxd8a ]		Mar 17 14:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Asian Penguins middle school Linux club	Mar 17 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	inspires community http://t.co/ARDT5lw6XG	Mar 17 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 15:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxdff	Mar 17 15:13
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msb_	Highly recommended movies for anyone interested in computers and the future: Transcendent Man (2009) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117394/combined - a documentary about Ray Kurzweil and his idea that since technology builds on the previous levl	Mar 17 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| Transcendent Man (2009) [ http://ur1.ca/jxerx ]		Mar 17 18:15
msb_	Highly recommended movies for anyone interested in computers and the future: Transcendent Man (2009) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117394/combined - a documentary about Ray Kurzweil and his idea that since technology builds on the previous level of technology, it grows exponentially, and will lead to an AI or intelligence enhancement for people exceeding all known capabilities by around the year 2050. Kurzweil calls this The	Mar 17 18:17
msb_	Singularity.	Mar 17 18:17
msb_	Transcendence (2014) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2209764/combined - a fictional movie about the Singularity and possible reactions to it. I regard it as a documentary of a possible future.	Mar 17 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| Transcendence (2014/I) [ http://ur1.ca/jxet8 ]		Mar 17 18:20
msb_	I recommend watching the documentary first, and then the fictional treatment. Both may be found in the usual places.	Mar 17 18:22
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MalJayaram/status/577927457279332352	Mar 17 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MalJayaram: @schestowitz @MishiChoudhary @NewYorker Wrote my dissertation on #GNU, #copyleft & #Stallman in 1995. Unsure if I feel old or cutting edge.		Mar 17 20:23
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MishiChoudhary/status/577928522062282752	Mar 17 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MishiChoudhary: @MalJayaram u r avant-garde no doubt no matter the yr! Just be proud of your being one of the super cool kids @schestowitz @NewYorker		Mar 17 20:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MalJayaram/status/577929200079769600	Mar 17 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MalJayaram: @MishiChoudhary @schestowitz @NewYorker You had me at "kids".		Mar 17 20:29
schestowitz	> Dear Mr. Schestowitz,	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	>	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	> thanky you very much once again for publishing. In this momment,	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	> just for your information, I pass everything to Mrs. Monica	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	> Macovei in European Parliament in Bruxelles.	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	> I am expecting meeting with her during April/May and opening	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	> investigation in case Lufthansa and Zeljko Topic & EPO.	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	> During my stay in Bruxelles maybe I will found one day to visit	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	> you in London/Manchester with fresh news.	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	Thanks for the context in the emails below, which I'll keep private. If you stop by in Manchester, let me know.	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	P.S.	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	If possible, I would ask you to activate all links (2-3) to web	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	sites in my today published response. Thank you...	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 20:56
schestowitz	I have turned explicit links into words with hypertext/anchor	Mar 17 21:04
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5773626	Mar 17 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The biggest privatisation in NHS history: why we had to blow the whistle http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/16/nhs-privatisation-biggest-history-staffordshire-cancer #nhs #uk		Mar 17 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| The biggest privatisation in NHS history: why we had to blow the whistle \| Kate Godfrey \| Comment is free \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jxfw2 ]		Mar 17 21:22
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 21:22
schestowitz	“no more than a blank cheque for whichever private firm is the most ruthlessly willing to cut services to shore up their own profits”	Mar 17 21:22
schestowitz	Someone got what privatizations are about.	Mar 17 21:22
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 21:22
schestowitz	"I had the idea P2P networks were for piracy, but it seems that when a corporation or the government does the same then everything is fine."	Mar 17 21:23
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5773861	Mar 17 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft #windows running "PC will become slower as it will serve the updates to another client." http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/let-users-bear-burden-of-updates-ms.html		Mar 17 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk \| Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Let Users Bear the Burden of Updates: MS Latest Windows 10 Idea [ http://ur1.ca/jxfw9 ]		Mar 17 21:23
schestowitz	Law is political	Mar 17 21:23
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MinceR	gn	Mar 18 01:29
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DaemonFC	Apple is offering a trade down program for Android users.	Mar 18 03:31
DaemonFC	You give them your Android phone and they give you an Apple gift card that you can use with one of their phones that bends when you put it in your pocket.	Mar 18 03:31
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5778107	Mar 18 04:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Fedora 22 Workstation’s new notifications http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-22-workstation-new-notifications/		Mar 18 04:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> fedoramagazine.org \| Fedora 22 Workstation's new notifications - Fedora Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/jxi02 ]		Mar 18 04:22
schestowitz	"Not sure about these but can't wait to try them."	Mar 18 04:22
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*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org \| Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell		Mar 18 07:20
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Mar 18 07:20
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schestowitz__	MinceR: http://static1.lxdcdn.net/images/max/w/806/66d29dfc7b02aa45862bb8ff8bbbe58c.png	Mar 18 10:16
XRevan86	schestowitz__: Not really.	Mar 18 10:17
MinceR	both are repulsive	Mar 18 10:17
XRevan86	MinceR: Dog like a dog.	Mar 18 10:19
XRevan86	MinceR: You don't like dogs?	Mar 18 10:19
MinceR	i don't	Mar 18 10:20
XRevan86	That explains everything.	Mar 18 10:20
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schestowitz__	> older:	Mar 18 12:01
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 12:01
schestowitz__	> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement&oldid=11098973	Mar 18 12:01
schestowitz__	Would that be of any use to TR?	Mar 18 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meta.wikimedia.org \| Single User Login finalisation announcement - Meta [ http://ur1.ca/jxjzd ]		Mar 18 12:01
schestowitz__	> http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/the-gnu-manifesto-turns-thirty	Mar 18 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newyorker.com \| Richard Stallman’s GNU Manifesto Turns Thirty - The New Yorker [ http://ur1.ca/jxk01 ]		Mar 18 12:05
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 12:05
schestowitz__	> side note: Dr Dobbs sold out, declined and then shut down	Mar 18 12:05
schestowitz__	it was shut down after a Microsoft tool, Binstock, ran it to the ground.	Mar 18 12:05
schestowitz__	> http://video.fosdem.org/2015/devroom-distributions/whats_new_in_systemd,_2015_edition__CAM_ONLY.mp4	Mar 18 12:06
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 12:06
schestowitz__	> :(	Mar 18 12:06
schestowitz__	systemDOS	Mar 18 12:06
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75	Mar 18 12:07
schestowitz__	> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2999878/Snowden-leaks-spies-risk-says-traitor-damaged-intelligence-agencies-world-including-MI5-MI6.html	Mar 18 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk \| Theresa May says Edward Snowden has damaged intelligence agencies across the world \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jxk0n ]		Mar 18 12:10
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 12:10
schestowitz__	> note caption	Mar 18 12:10
schestowitz__	>>> older:	Mar 18 12:17
schestowitz__	>>> >>	Mar 18 12:17
schestowitz__	>>> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement&oldid=11098973	Mar 18 12:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meta.wikimedia.org \| Single User Login finalisation announcement - Meta [ http://ur1.ca/jxjzd ]		Mar 18 12:17
schestowitz__	>> >	Mar 18 12:17
schestowitz__	>> > Would that be of any use to TR?	Mar 18 12:17
schestowitz__	>> >	Mar 18 12:17
schestowitz__	>> >	Mar 18 12:17
schestowitz__	> Well the separate TR components seem to be using separate login	Mar 18 12:17
schestowitz__	> credentials. It would be useful but I'm not sure the work vs return	Mar 18 12:17
schestowitz__	> makes it any kind of priority.	Mar 18 12:17
schestowitz__	If community role expands (and not trolls/spam), then we can use LDAP. I set it up for other Wikis before.	Mar 18 12:17
MinceR	geekings	Mar 18 12:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/rogervycsumbhj/status/578180059531350016	Mar 18 13:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.indiegogo.com \| Most Powerful Android Smart Dock \| Indiegogo		Mar 18 13:05
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MinceR	even works with apple branded samsung mobiles!	Mar 18 13:08
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schestowitz__	ha	Mar 18 13:18
schestowitz__	components	Mar 18 13:18
cubexyz	http://www.sltrib.com/news/2303519-155/its-alive-utah-software-companys-decade-old	Mar 18 13:23
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msb_	I was a Dr Dobbs subscriber. Was shocked when it started running articles about MS-Windows tech. It became useless, then disappeared.	Mar 18 14:42
msb_	The psychopath rulers attack everywhere.	Mar 18 14:43
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cubexyz	we have Linux Format	Mar 18 15:05
cubexyz	I have quite a few old Dr Dobb's issues	Mar 18 15:05
cubexyz	you probably can remember the pre-microsoft era better than most	Mar 18 15:07
cubexyz	I can remember windows articles going back to 1990 and before	Mar 18 15:10
cubexyz	I tested Windows 2.0 at work in 1988 or so	Mar 18 15:10
cubexyz	basically it started as Microsoft's version of Visi On	Mar 18 15:12
cubexyz	the original GUI war was Topview, GEM, X Window System and M$ Windows	Mar 18 15:14
cubexyz	I guess I should include Amiga Workbench and the Atari one also	Mar 18 15:14
cubexyz	we can thank MIT, DEC and IBM for saving us from a Windows only GUI world	Mar 18 15:15
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5780483	Mar 18 15:25
schestowitz__	"The Right is ramping up its rhetoric again for privatizing Social Security here, too."	Mar 18 15:26
schestowitz__	They must be Right	Mar 18 15:26
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lirodon	you know MS is desperate when they even have to give away Windows 10 to pirates	Mar 18 15:39
abeNd-org	as someone who still has to support ms, as well as linux, ill be happy to have everyone rolled over to one desktop platform (still plenty of business/enterprise apps with no linux equiv)	Mar 18 15:55
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MinceR	what will the One Desktop Platform be?	Mar 18 16:21
MinceR	windows? macos? lendows?	Mar 18 16:21
MinceR	or the government-mandated One Platform once they'll require government permits to allow you to even use a computer you can write programs on (while being heavily monitored, of course), while everyone is forced to use locked-down appliances?	Mar 18 16:22
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abeNd-org	win10 for the business/enterprise clients, since so much business/enterprise software is still windows only, at least it wont be a mix of win2000/xp/vista/7/8/8.1. thankfully not too many macs, & 0 linux desktops (plenty of linux servers though)	Mar 18 16:43
MinceR	ah, so you'd force windows on all of us	Mar 18 16:44
abeNd-org	nope	Mar 18 16:45
abeNd-org	where there is linux back ends to enterprise apps, ive used them, but most of the time even those only have windows front ends	Mar 18 16:45
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Anonymous_	Hi Roy, is HMA secure enough for me not to be tracked down using this channel ?	Mar 18 16:58
Anonymous_	All EPO internet in and out traffic routed through 80.81.193.61	Mar 18 16:59
Anonymous_	This IP belongs to moscow based Moscow Telecom Corp or COMCOR	Mar 18 16:59
Anonymous_	COMCOR like Commander of the Corp, old russian army grade.	Mar 18 17:00
Anonymous_	This company presents itself as being specialized in data and trafic analysis.	Mar 18 17:00
Anonymous_	More later...	Mar 18 17:01
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XRevan86	Oh god why	Mar 18 17:08
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XRevan86	Windows 10 will be free for everyone, probably only for a year.	Mar 18 17:09
XRevan86	not only in China	Mar 18 17:09
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782181	Mar 18 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #LEGO Minifigures coming to #gnu #linux or not? https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/lego-minifigures-online-looks-possible-for-linux.5106 http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/lego-minifigures-online-is-not-coming-to-linux-sadly.5111		Mar 18 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com \| LEGO Minifigures Online Looks Possible For Linux \| GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/jxlw1 ]		Mar 18 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com \| LEGO Minifigures Online Is Not Coming To Linux, Sadly \| GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/jxlw2 ]		Mar 18 17:14
schestowitz__	"LEGO Minifigures Online Is Not Coming To Linux, Sadly"	Mar 18 17:15
MinceR	no, it will be gratis	Mar 18 17:20
XRevan86	http://lwn.net/Articles/637120	Mar 18 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| Utah software company’s decade-old suit against IBM revived (SL Tribune) [LWN.net]		Mar 18 17:31
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782170	Mar 18 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: BioShock Infinite Released For Linux, Thanks To Virtual Programming https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/bioshock-infinite-released-for-linux-thanks-to-virtual-programming.5108		Mar 18 17:38
schestowitz__	"What what whaaaaaat?! :D"	Mar 18 17:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com \| BioShock Infinite Released For Linux, Thanks To Virtual Programming \| GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/jxm1n ]		Mar 18 17:39
schestowitz__	Confirmed in other sites too now	Mar 18 17:39
abeNd-org	so when will blizzard officially support linux? that would be a nice bump	Mar 18 17:42
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5781212	Mar 18 17:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A lot of people whom I hear saying they "need a new phone" don't say so because they can no longer make calls. It's about vanity/apps.		Mar 18 17:42
schestowitz__	Here the same, but seldom hear "need savings in the bank", maybe that's not fashionable.""	Mar 18 17:42
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/578249844038328320	Mar 18 17:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Industry been in this thick-as-thieves since day-zero!		Mar 18 17:43
MinceR	when will abeNd-org officially support GNU/Linux?	Mar 18 17:44
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abeNd-org	pfff, server side i already do, just not on the desktop (yet, until given a reason)	Mar 18 17:46
MinceR	there's at least one good reason: GNU/Linux on the desktop was less retarded than windows on the desktop for 15 years or more	Mar 18 17:47
abeNd-org	retarded or not, if the business/enterprise apps customers need arent there, then it is not usable	Mar 18 17:48
MinceR	in which case nothing is usable	Mar 18 17:56
MinceR	so might as well go till the fields instead	Mar 18 17:56
abeNd-org	shrug not my fault vendors choose to make a linux back end yet still require a windows front end	Mar 18 17:57
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MinceR	shrug not my fault m$ and apple refuse to fix their windowing systems	Mar 18 17:59
abeNd-org	yea, macosx & ios were tops on the security vulnerability list this past yr, even higher than winderz	Mar 18 18:02
schestowitz	>	Mar 18 18:03
schestowitz	> These people might be able to provide technical details about the	Mar 18 18:03
schestowitz	> attacks on their server so that a comparison could be carried out	Mar 18 18:03
schestowitz	> to see if there were any similarities on a technical level.	Mar 18 18:03
schestowitz	Rikard had phoned me, so some dots are connecting now (he also speaks	Mar 18 18:03
schestowitz	to Stilin). Is the portal above covering many other types of stories	Mar 18 18:03
schestowitz	and if so, why do you think the attacks on them may be due to Topic	Mar 18 18:03
schestowitz	coverage? BTW, Rikard calls Topic dangerous man. There is also a	Mar 18 18:03
schestowitz	family connection and Topic seemingly harasses Rikard's family (son).	Mar 18 18:03
abeNd-org	From someone in another channel - "rofl so M$ is calling their new browser that will replace IE "Project Spartan" - thus I recommend the slogan "Inviting Trojans!""	Mar 18 18:06
MinceR	lol	Mar 18 18:08
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schestowitz	"	Mar 18 18:33
schestowitz	We don't have any direct contact to Mr. Frgacic so we can't really comment on the merits of his case but we had a look at his "jumbo mail" videos.	Mar 18 18:33
schestowitz	As far as we can work out, these programs were broadcast on the main Croatian TV channel (HRT) so it seems that he has some public credibility in Croatia.	Mar 18 18:33
schestowitz	Regards	Mar 18 18:33
schestowitz	PS: According to the information we received, the "jumbo mails" will be valid for about another week so anyone who is interested should make a copy of the videos before they expire:	Mar 18 18:33
schestowitz	https://jumbo.iskon.hr/download/2b0a1188-6c89-41c7-a37f-12dc680deff1?locale=en	Mar 18 18:33
schestowitz	https://jumbo.iskon.hr/download/938bfcf3-d66c-4eeb-bd8b-f15517c5a9b1?locale=en	Mar 18 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jumbo.iskon.hr \| Iskon.Jumbo [ http://ur1.ca/jxmfd ]		Mar 18 18:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jumbo.iskon.hr \| Iskon.Jumbo [ http://ur1.ca/jxmfe ]		Mar 18 18:33
schestowitz	"	Mar 18 18:33
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schestowitz	"	Mar 18 18:55
schestowitz	Roy,	Mar 18 18:55
schestowitz	We attach a copy of an English translation of the Judgment in the recent Zeljko Topic defamation case.	Mar 18 18:55
schestowitz	We also attach a copy of the original judgment in Croatian.	Mar 18 18:55
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schestowitz	You are free to publish these documents as you see fit.	Mar 18 18:55
schestowitz	Regards	Mar 18 18:55
schestowitz	"	Mar 18 18:55
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782710	Mar 18 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Cisco posts kit to empty houses to dodge #NSA chop shops http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/18/want_to_dodge_nsa_supply_chain_taps_ask_cisco_for_a_dead_drop/?mt=1426694168077 publicity stunt from backdoors collaborator		Mar 18 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk \| Cisco posts kit to empty houses to dodge NSA chop shops • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/jxmwq ]		Mar 18 19:52
schestowitz	"the Cisco/NSA BFFship is history?"	Mar 18 19:52
schestowitz	Saving face IMHO	Mar 18 19:53
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782581	Mar 18 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "GCW-ZERO runs a version of open source Linux. It’s developed by the community so expect regular updates." http://kdvr.com/2015/03/06/tech-review-open-source-gaming-in-your-pocket-gcw-zero-gcwzero-open-source-gaming-console/		Mar 18 20:01
schestowitz	"love it"	Mar 18 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> kdvr.com \| Tech Review: Open source gaming in your pocket – GCW-ZERO \| FOX31 Denver [ http://ur1.ca/jxmye ]		Mar 18 20:01
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DaemonFC	http://www.geek.com/microsoft/microsoft-is-building-a-windows-10-rom-that-wipes-android-off-phones-1618288/	Mar 18 23:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com \| Microsoft is building a Windows 10 ROM that wipes Android off phones \| Microsoft \| Geek.com [ http://ur1.ca/jxo0v ]		Mar 18 23:04
DaemonFC	RF • 2 minutes ago	Mar 18 23:04
DaemonFC	"The pitch is logical enough: why not offer a Windows model and give people the choice, especially when there’s minimal effort involved in doing it?"	Mar 18 23:04
DaemonFC	Because then you have a significant inventory of phones that you can't move until you give up, return them to the manufacturer, reflash them with Android, and sell as refurbished?	Mar 18 23:04
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MinceR	yeah, "choice", the microsoft way	Mar 18 23:06
MinceR	i'm all too familiar with that kind of "choice"	Mar 18 23:06
DaemonFC	http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/18/8241023/windows-10-free-for-software-pirates	Mar 18 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| Windows 10 will be free for software pirates \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/jxo1e ]		Mar 18 23:07
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Mar 18 23:07
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Mar 18 23:07
DaemonFC	That's nice. Give them a free upgrade. That'll teach people to be a big fat idiot and pay $80 for a licensed copy. smile emoticon	Mar 18 23:07
DaemonFC	I'm assuming that while this is going on, people building new PCs will just install a cracked copy of Windows 7 or 8 and then initiate the upgrade process.	Mar 18 23:08
MinceR	they won't learn anything	Mar 18 23:08
MinceR	they're windows users	Mar 18 23:08
gde33	MinceR: while there are many alternatives, without marketing they are not really usuable for that type of users	Mar 18 23:10
MinceR	i know, there are users who _want_ windows-style bad design and bugs	Mar 18 23:10
MinceR	case in point: systemd apologists	Mar 18 23:10
gde33	yes, one could also say they care more about other things	Mar 18 23:11
MinceR	it's not difficult to care more than "not at all" about something	Mar 18 23:11
gde33	xp was just bad but it was not as bad as many ui's that followed. metro shows that ms doesn't remember how to design an ui either	Mar 18 23:11
DaemonFC	http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/18/8250595/t-mobile-uncarrier-for-business-announced	Mar 18 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| T-Mobile announces 'Uncarrier' plans for businesses \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/jxo2i ]		Mar 18 23:11
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Mar 18 23:12
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Mar 18 23:12
DaemonFC	I've heard that T-Mobile is the only carrier that manages to drop more calls than Sprint. I haven't had both, but Sprint is pretty bad. Anyone?	Mar 18 23:12
MinceR	how could they remember something they never knew in the first place?	Mar 18 23:12
DaemonFC	MinceR, Homeopathy	Mar 18 23:12
MinceR	lol	Mar 18 23:12
gde33	that is just the thing, they depend on advertisement for product information	Mar 18 23:12
gde33	and expect the first computer shop to sell them a CD	Mar 18 23:12
*DaemonFC loves HexChat. Doesn't understand how mIRC can possibly still exist.		Mar 18 23:14
MinceR	a cd, in 2015?	Mar 18 23:14
DaemonFC	The last time I regularly used mIRC, I think I was running Windows 98.	Mar 18 23:14
gde33	MinceR: something they can stick in the computer and have it install	Mar 18 23:15
MinceR	that's not how they got windows anyway	Mar 18 23:15
gde33	also, paying for a product means you are to get support	Mar 18 23:15
gde33	sending some oblivious noob into grunt is the worse marketing idea	Mar 18 23:16
MinceR	yeah, i know that kind of support all too well	Mar 18 23:16
gde33	it sucks, but it is the expectation that they value	Mar 18 23:16
gde33	advertisement people are all about the way things look	Mar 18 23:16
MinceR	microsoft's bugs that will never get fixed	Mar 18 23:17
gde33	it is just how they think	Mar 18 23:17
MinceR	dell's decisions that certain things just aren't covered by the warranty	Mar 18 23:17
MinceR	it's how they don't think	Mar 18 23:17
gde33	hating on MS is not going to magically write a supperior OS	Mar 18 23:17
MinceR	the superior os has been around for over a decade	Mar 18 23:17
MinceR	some people made it very clear that they made a (supposedly informed) decision that they don't want it	Mar 18 23:18
MinceR	in general, the human species wants to go extinct and suffer a lot along the way	Mar 18 23:18
gde33	wich is that? how should one learn where to find it?	Mar 18 23:18
MinceR	gnu/linux	Mar 18 23:19
gde33	linux distro users are just like ms users, they try 2 or 3 distro's at most then argue their choice to be the right one	Mar 18 23:19
gde33	linux is not an os	Mar 18 23:19
MinceR	indeed, it's a kernel	Mar 18 23:19
gde33	I think in 2015 one would have to design hardware, then while doing so develop an OS and at the same time develop native application for all standard use cases	Mar 18 23:19
MinceR	and the ones who find their distro in 3 tries are lucky	Mar 18 23:19
MinceR	nobody does that	Mar 18 23:19
gde33	exactly	Mar 18 23:19
MinceR	m$ doesn't do that	Mar 18 23:20
MinceR	crApple doesn't do that	Mar 18 23:20
gde33	no one does that	Mar 18 23:20
gde33	so everyone is wrong in my view	Mar 18 23:20
MinceR	it would require a megacorporation in a scale that's beyond the giants of today	Mar 18 23:20
gde33	you might see something like it on some phones	Mar 18 23:20
MinceR	hardly	Mar 18 23:20
MinceR	ARM doesn't design phones	Mar 18 23:20
MinceR	others don't design ISAs	Mar 18 23:20
gde33	that might be the case, that it requires such a mega corp	Mar 18 23:20
MinceR	most others don't even design CPU cores	Mar 18 23:21
gde33	regardless of the arguments why it cant be done, this is the way to make something truly magical and progressive	Mar 18 23:21
gde33	it was not my idea to create monopolies with intelectual property and patents for their monopoly	Mar 18 23:22
gde33	it use to be that monopolies were illegal	Mar 18 23:22
gde33	it is just a sad world of trolls now	Mar 18 23:22
gde33	btw a mega corp?	Mar 18 23:22
gde33	why cant it be some other form?	Mar 18 23:22
gde33	say a mega community or some colaborating governments?	Mar 18 23:23
MinceR	i assumed that's what you meant	Mar 18 23:23
MinceR	i suppose a community could do it	Mar 18 23:23
MinceR	maybe with the rise of free hardware designs, the free software community will do that	Mar 18 23:24
gde33	the financial swindle is at the core of lack of development	Mar 18 23:24
gde33	If I look at kickstarter I see that average joe just doesn't have any money?	Mar 18 23:24
gde33	the corruption is also at the core of bad education, to render people non disruptive	Mar 18 23:25
gde33	if normal people had some 500 euro laying around just to spend on some fun global effort to build a new home computer it would be astonishing	Mar 18 23:27
MinceR	they would never care to spend it on that	Mar 18 23:27
MinceR	they don't know what is a computer and they don't care	Mar 18 23:27
gde33	not in the current settings no	Mar 18 23:27
MinceR	and if it's up to the likes of m$, crApple and intel, this is only going to get worse	Mar 18 23:28
gde33	they dont have to care about the computer, it should be money spend just on being part of something wonderful	Mar 18 23:28
gde33	you get 500 euro worth of feeling good about yourself, that should be enough	Mar 18 23:28
DaemonFC	http://wane.com/2015/03/18/microsoft-plans-replacement-for-internet-explorer	Mar 18 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wane.com \| Microsoft plans replacement for Internet Explorer \| WANE [ http://ur1.ca/jxo5j ]		Mar 18 23:28
MinceR	eventually it may get very difficult for us to get a general purpose computer at all	Mar 18 23:28
DaemonFC	RF • a minute ago	Mar 18 23:28
DaemonFC	I said goodbye to Monoposoft Internet Exploder immediately after I tried it in the 1990s. Microsoft welded it into the Windows 98 user interface shell and I had to pry it back out using a utility called "Revenge of Mozilla" written by a nice man named Bruce Jensen because the new Windows 98 Internet Explorer shell was (1) massively unstable, (2) a resource pig, (3) and it leaked GDI objects until Windows eventually crashed. Luckily, I had a	Mar 18 23:28
DaemonFC	copy of the Windows 95 OSR 2.1 versions of explorer.exe, cmdlg32.dll, and shell32.dll to provide for the utility to swap out the shell for one that worked right. I'd rather use anything but Internet Explorer. It's still nothing other than a slow, stupid, security hazard, even with version 11. The first thing I did was install Chrome and delete the IE shortcuts. I hope that with Windows 10, we have the option to totally remove IE 11, or else	Mar 18 23:28
DaemonFC	it's just going to be yet more bloat that must be supported forever because of Microsoft's illegal monopolistic legacy. Windows is already 12 times larger than a complete installation of Ubuntu, and whereas the fresh copy of Windows doesn't have most of the software you need, while the fresh copy of Ubuntu does. Windows is obese. Microsoft is getting around the excess bloat problem in Windows 10 by using file compression to make some of the	Mar 18 23:28
DaemonFC	system files use less space on disk/ssd. Windows is utter crap, and the only reason to have it is because there exists some software that doesn't work correctly in Wine. Windows and IE belong together. They're like old swiss cheese. They're full of holes and they stink.	Mar 18 23:28
gde33	MinceR: certainly	Mar 18 23:28
MinceR	> Microsoft plans replacement for the "Internet Explorer" brand	Mar 18 23:28
MinceR	FTFY	Mar 18 23:28
gde33	MinceR: yeah, we are in 1996 now!	Mar 18 23:29
gde33	woo hooo!	Mar 18 23:29
MinceR	it's more likely that it will get even more difficult to remove	Mar 18 23:30
MinceR	seeing how it's at the base of the HTML5-based metro UI	Mar 18 23:30
DaemonFC	MinceR, No. There's a fork of Trident that's being used by the new browser.	Mar 18 23:31
MinceR	ooh, a fork of Trident	Mar 18 23:31
DaemonFC	They stripped out a bunch of old legacy MSHTML crap and did stuff apparently.	Mar 18 23:31
gde33	html is really a quite stupid idea	Mar 18 23:31
DaemonFC	I glanced at a blog post about it.	Mar 18 23:31
MinceR	html is horribly badly designed	Mar 18 23:31
gde33	if it was just a bitmap with x,y cordinates we wouldn't have all these problems	Mar 18 23:32
MinceR	but tbl, m$, MPEG LA and the DRM Fan Club are working on making it a lot more horrible	Mar 18 23:32
MinceR	i have a replacement for html in mind, but only for hypertext (and maybe form) use cases	Mar 18 23:33
MinceR	the remote GUI part has to stay out of that one	Mar 18 23:33
MinceR	anyway, nobody will use it	Mar 18 23:34
MinceR	because it won't be shiny	Mar 18 23:34
gde33	Do you know PICS rating?	Mar 18 23:34
MinceR	i do not	Mar 18 23:35
gde33	in the early interwebs a sophisticated content rating system was developed	Mar 18 23:35
gde33	it was endlessly flamed by journalists who didn't want the scrunity. scrunity = no advertisement revenue	Mar 18 23:35
gde33	today it is really only used for filtering adult content	Mar 18 23:36
gde33	but it has all the sexy qualities to rate content	Mar 18 23:36
gde33	crudely put, the idea was to make it possible for everyone to start their own rating service	Mar 18 23:36
gde33	you can copy but also invent your own terms	Mar 18 23:37
gde33	so you have a quality, say "foobar"	Mar 18 23:37
gde33	then you give it a scale, say 1-5	Mar 18 23:37
gde33	you may then assign a description to "foobar" 1	Mar 18 23:38
gde33	like say "anti foobar"	Mar 18 23:38
gde33	or "poor foobar support"	Mar 18 23:38
gde33	the eventuall rating would have an url to a file where your rating system is described	Mar 18 23:38
gde33	along with a short hand, probably F for foobar, so F1E3G5D2Z1	Mar 18 23:39
gde33	would be poor foobar support	Mar 18 23:39
gde33	you add a html element, I think it was a <link> not sure, put the href and the rating inthere	Mar 18 23:40
gde33	but you can also submit the page url to a more sophisticated rating service and have the F1E3G5D2Z1 as the response text	Mar 18 23:40
gde33	it also had a kind of tracker that gathers ratings from popular rating services	Mar 18 23:41
gde33	think of it like user generated meta tags with a defined rating level	Mar 18 23:41
gde33	if you are interested in foobar you can request pages with foobar rating 5, or "full support for foobar"	Mar 18 23:42
gde33	use your friends rating service mixed with respectable gurus	Mar 18 23:43
gde33	it was quite the offical thing http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_1.12.0/com.ibm.zos.r12.dgwa400/imwziu18499.htm	Mar 18 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www-01.ibm.com \| IBM Knowledge Center [ http://ur1.ca/jxo8v ]		Mar 18 23:45
gde33	http://www.w3.org/PICS/	Mar 18 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org \| Platform for Internet Content Selection (PICS)Platform for Internet Content Selection (PICS)		Mar 18 23:45
gde33	http://www.w3.org/PICS/PICS-FAQ-980126.html	Mar 18 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org \| PICS, Censorship, and Intellectual Freedom FAQ [ http://ur1.ca/jxo90 ]		Mar 18 23:46
gde33	Yes. While the motivation for PICS was concern over children accessing inappropriate materials, it is a general "meta-data" system, meaning that labels can provide any kind of descriptive information about Internet materials. For example, a labeling vocabulary could indicate the literary quality of an item rather than its appropriateness for children. Most immediately, PICS labels could help in finding particularly desirable materials (	Mar 18 23:48
gde33	ee, for example, NetShepherd's label-informed Alta Vista search), and this is the main motivation for the ongoing work on a next generation label format that can include arbitrary text strings.	Mar 18 23:48
MinceR	is PICS used today?	Mar 18 23:49
gde33	only serious use is by child content filters	Mar 18 23:50
gde33	but it did survive	Mar 18 23:50
gde33	rss has a tag for it	Mar 18 23:50
gde33	MinceR: anyway, with the browser becoming an application platform I think there will be room for a text only browser with a bunch of "new" technologies added	Mar 18 23:51
MinceR	we'll see, i guess	Mar 18 23:51
gde33	people dont seem to like the idea of a proper rating system but this will change when they see it work	Mar 18 23:52
gde33	I think p2p text documents could be something awesome	Mar 18 23:52
gde33	could have licence servers where one can request the licence type for the materials represented by that service	Mar 18 23:53
MinceR	"licence server" sounds like "DRM" to me :>	Mar 18 23:54
gde33	yes, a volentary drm	Mar 18 23:54
gde33	so that people who dont want to distribute copyrighted texts dont have to	Mar 18 23:54
gde33	but also so that people who claim to have the rights to something can pay for our infrastructure	Mar 18 23:54
gde33	the old trick to avoid drm on text is to write a book review	Mar 18 23:55
gde33	the author of the book might even like it	Mar 18 23:56
gde33	think of the licence as just another bit of meta data to be had	Mar 18 23:57
gde33	if the text was written 100 years ago I will just distribute it ignoring claims of copyright	Mar 18 23:58
gde33	MinceR: I've actually grown to like content filters, I think they are awesome	Mar 18 23:59
MinceR	how so?	Mar 19 00:00
gde33	here is my rss aggregator, look where it says BAD WORDS AND BAD WORD COMBINATIONS http://opml.go-here.nl/the-internet.user.js	Mar 19 00:00
gde33	I'm slowly making hard coded feed lists, takes a bit of time, currently it has 6552 working feeds	Mar 19 00:02
gde33	the bad words make up an unreasonable % of headlines	Mar 19 00:03
MinceR	oh, i see	Mar 19 00:03
MinceR	that does sound potentially useful	Mar 19 00:03
gde33	I'm my own parrent :D	Mar 19 00:03
gde33	haha	Mar 19 00:03
MinceR	it's less of an "i can't bear to see this" and more of a "spare me of this" thing :)	Mar 19 00:04
gde33	yeah	Mar 19 00:05
gde33	it should also have a temp list, I just didn't get to that	Mar 19 00:05
gde33	things like virgin galactic are onthere because I didn't want to have 100 articles every day about some rich dude who died	Mar 19 00:05
gde33	but I never want to see an article about steve jobs ever again	Mar 19 00:06
gde33	samsung with their multibilion advert budget is also not worht reading about	Mar 19 00:07
gde33	if they add a drop shadow to an icon there will be an endless flow of articles about it	Mar 19 00:07
MinceR	of course there will, because crApple will immediately claim they invented the drop shadow and sue everyone	Mar 19 00:08
gde33	yeah, then next thing you dont want to know what is going on in the world anymore	Mar 19 00:09
gde33	enough about these terrarists already!	Mar 19 00:09
gde33	no I dont live in israel	Mar 19 00:09
MinceR	:>	Mar 19 00:09
MinceR	yet.	Mar 19 00:09
gde33	heh	Mar 19 00:10
gde33	russian and african english news sources are kinda interesting	Mar 19 00:11
gde33	you dont see those very often in google	Mar 19 00:11
gde33	they are kinda outnumbered	Mar 19 00:11
MinceR	not even pravda^Wrt?	Mar 19 00:11
gde33	we think western governments are corrupt but compared to africa it is rather modest	Mar 19 00:12
gde33	it is also a good indicator what corrupt officals are capable of	Mar 19 00:13
gde33	up to some point tho, egypt is to depressing for my taste	Mar 19 00:13
gde33	south africa is facinating	Mar 19 00:14
gde33	there corporations can just call the government and have them do whatever idiotic thing they want	Mar 19 00:14
gde33	shoot the protestors, put people in prison for saying the ZA bank is privately owned	Mar 19 00:15
gde33	*SA	Mar 19 00:15
gde33	but for a rating system my bad words filter is kinda unsophisticated and low tech	Mar 19 00:16
gde33	it has 1 quality with 2 possible values	Mar 19 00:17
DaemonFC	Someone pointed out on Amazon Forums that 70% of men in my age group (20-34) are unmarried. I replied:	Mar 19 01:00
DaemonFC	"Actually, now that gay marriage is legal, it just means that 30% of men were stupid enough to let a partner that has a 50/50 chance of turning out to be a malicious (something-or-other) drag them by the **** into a courthouse to sign papers to give the government more control over their life.	Mar 19 01:00
DaemonFC	In Huntington, Indiana, when you go in front of the judge, he's an unelected judge because nobody ever opposes him, meaning that he can't lose no matter what he does to people day in and day out. And he presides over all of the divorces in the county. Consider that."	Mar 19 01:00
DaemonFC	And you know what the Republican judges presiding over gay divorces are going to start doing to us.	Mar 19 01:00
DaemonFC	"Eeny, meeny, miny, moe..... He gets everything!"	Mar 19 01:00
DaemonFC	The sheer terror of being picked at random to lose all of your stuff will deter gay people from getting married. You heard it here first.	Mar 19 01:00
gde33	DaemonFC: are you maried?	Mar 19 01:13
DaemonFC	No.	Mar 19 01:14
gde33	why?	Mar 19 01:14
DaemonFC	Well, I could have been, several times, if it had been legal and with the way I was thinking.	Mar 19 01:14
DaemonFC	Glad the law stopped me, in retrospect. That's not to say that I agree with the ban.	Mar 19 01:15
gde33	personally I dont see a point in the religious ritual	Mar 19 01:15
DaemonFC	Every citizen should have equal rights in a society that is based on laws.	Mar 19 01:15
DaemonFC	Even the right to do something stupid.	Mar 19 01:15
gde33	I dont need a priest or the government in bed with me, I can figure out the sex without them.	Mar 19 01:16
gde33	but more interestingly...	Mar 19 01:16
gde33	I think technology brought a ton of isolation	Mar 19 01:16
gde33	what kind of things do you go out for?	Mar 19 01:16
gde33	it seems bars and discos attract a different kind of people nowadays	Mar 19 01:17
gde33	getting a drink is so expensive here I'm just not interested in it	Mar 19 01:17
gde33	the library or other kinds of social gatherings all seem in decline	Mar 19 01:18
gde33	in stead we are talking on irc to a rather disinterested audience :P	Mar 19 01:19
gde33	no offense	Mar 19 01:19
MinceR	i don't see a point in the state having to do anything with such matters	Mar 19 01:19
MinceR	which makes the ritual pointless	Mar 19 01:19
gde33	yeah, if you want god in bed with you as the 3rd wheel on the cart that is up to you	Mar 19 01:19
MinceR	i'm my own god :>	Mar 19 01:20
gde33	I think marrage is overly boolean	Mar 19 01:20
gde33	you either stay or you leave, there is nothing between it offically	Mar 19 01:21
MinceR	indeed	Mar 19 01:21
gde33	it should be the natural organic analog spectrum	Mar 19 01:21
MinceR	gn	Mar 19 01:52
DaemonFC	The funny thing was that the most significant decline in teen pregnancy in America in decades came on the heels of "16 and pregnant". You warn them about AIDS and STIs and they're like "Meh!". You show them what having kids is like, and they're all "Holy shit!!!! Condom condom condom condom! Gotta find a condom! Where's the condoms!?"."	Mar 19 03:51
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MinceR	geekings	Mar 19 12:58
XRevan86	MinceR: hi	Mar 19 12:59
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/johnkt09/status/578650764257730561	Mar 19 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnkt09: @schestowitz @FrancisJeffrey7 You can get married in Qom by the hour.		Mar 19 20:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines SUSE Linux and Veristorm bring Apache Hadoop to	Mar 19 22:26
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MinceR	gn	Mar 20 02:08
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schestowitz	> http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/03/groundwater-pumping-sea-level-rise	Mar 20 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com \| We're Pumping So Much Groundwater That It's Causing the Oceans to Rise \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/jxz74 ]		Mar 20 10:02
schestowitz	>	Mar 20 10:02
schestowitz	> some of that is fossil water and not coming back	Mar 20 10:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/vlfig/status/578856895269703680 https://twitter.com/vlfig/status/578857327513767936	Mar 20 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vlfig: @schestowitz they're obviously in the business of serving those who pay them.		Mar 20 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vlfig: @schestowitz which may in fact be the users themselves, if those companies are searching for a market.		Mar 20 10:08
schestowitz	#twitter is becoming almost indistinguishable from #facebook now, more and more over time	Mar 20 10:08
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/vlfig/status/578861004240658433	Mar 20 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vlfig: @schestowitz but aren't we talking about public data?		Mar 20 10:14
schestowitz	Facebook still worse than Twitter because it sells 'private' data too	Mar 20 10:15
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__martin__	the news broke that redmond offers the source of their compiler	Mar 20 11:54
__martin__	I say: compromised, don't touch - see T//I article on apple's xcode	Mar 20 11:55
__martin__	(=	Mar 20 11:55
cubexyz	which license I wonder	Mar 20 11:57
cubexyz	apache license 2.0 it seems	Mar 20 11:58
cubexyz	I have to say I'm not interested in .NET	Mar 20 11:59
cubexyz	runs on Microsoft only... not very appealing for folks who like cross-platform development	Mar 20 12:00
__martin__	+ driver frameworks under MIT	Mar 20 12:03
cubexyz	microsoft will always be proprietary this or that	Mar 20 12:05
cubexyz	I wrote some (not much but some) msdos and windows code	Mar 20 12:08
cubexyz	I don't mind running stuff I wrote myself on dosbox or wine but that's about as far as I'm going to take it	Mar 20 12:09
cubexyz	all sorts of windows assumptions are baked into dotNET	Mar 20 12:27
cubexyz	game code ported from windows to mac to linux, that isn't too bad since it's already got abstracted from windows	Mar 20 12:28
cubexyz	the game network code was all different for each of the three versions though	Mar 20 12:30
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MinceR	m$ must be really desperate to have people run their crap code	Mar 20 13:43
MinceR	maybe they noticed redhat appeared as a competitor in the "crap software" market	Mar 20 13:43
MinceR	geekings	Mar 20 13:52
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balrog	Hi all, been a while.	Mar 20 16:55
balrog	Any suggestions on recourse with a blatantly GPL-violating storage appliance vendor?	Mar 20 16:55
schestowitz	hey	Mar 20 17:25
schestowitz	I recalled you some weeks ago	Mar 20 17:25
schestowitz	for the RMS talk you had recorded, I think I still have it on my external drives backed upo	Mar 20 17:26
schestowitz	balrog: I suppose you're well past graduation now	Mar 20 17:26
balrog	I work there now. different department, same place	Mar 20 17:26
schestowitz	Ah, I know which one	Mar 20 17:27
schestowitz	Now there's Android, so FUD has evolved	Mar 20 17:29
schestowitz	Google and Linus takes some of the heat too, RMS gets a break...	Mar 20 17:29
balrog	well, there's the whole mediatek mess	Mar 20 17:29
balrog	and multiple other chinese vendors that don't even care	Mar 20 17:29
balrog	I know about the patent stuff	Mar 20 17:29
balrog	it's an ongoing mess of FUD, I follow it at a high level but don't go too deep because, well, no time	Mar 20 17:30
schestowitz	MinceR: even if it doesn't blow itself up, female genital mutilation will blow half of them up	Mar 20 17:30
balrog	but it annoys me when vendors think they're clever and refuse to cooperate	Mar 20 17:30
balrog	in this case though I haven't contacted the vendor about this	Mar 20 17:30
schestowitz	!google mediatek gpl	Mar 20 17:31
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Have You Paid Your Linux Kernel Source License Fee? - XDA Forums \| http://www.xda-developers.com/have-you-paid-your-linux-kernel-source-license-fee/	Mar 20 17:31
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schestowitz	Samsung used to do this too	Mar 20 17:31
schestowitz	DaemonFC contacted them	Mar 20 17:31
schestowitz	and we did some public shaming	Mar 20 17:31
schestowitz	Samsung is now getting more serious about FOSS and complying with the GPL	Mar 20 17:31
balrog	Samsung also is more in the spotlight	Mar 20 17:32
schestowitz	it wasn't like this years ago, they're really trying right now to recruit FOSS-savvy people	Mar 20 17:32
balrog	since they're a major consumer electronics provider	Mar 20 17:32
balrog	Mediatek? they're a supplier	Mar 20 17:32
balrog	I'm not saying this to excuse them	Mar 20 17:32
schestowitz	No wonder I never heard of anything from them	Mar 20 17:32
balrog	they make chips	Mar 20 17:32
schestowitz	my wife worked for a supplier before	Mar 20 17:32
schestowitz	Bourns	Mar 20 17:32
balrog	oh, they seem to be a decent company	Mar 20 17:32
balrog	they make passives	Mar 20 17:33
balrog	I've used their parts	Mar 20 17:33
schestowitz	they ruined her eyesight	Mar 20 17:33
balrog	:/	Mar 20 17:33
balrog	(if that's the same Bourns)	Mar 20 17:33
schestowitz	Probably	Mar 20 17:33
schestowitz	US company, but manufacturing it overseas	Mar 20 17:33
schestowitz	and QA	Mar 20 17:33
balrog	most companies do global manufacturing these days so I'm not surprised	Mar 20 17:34
balrog	high value stuff in the US or Japan or such, lower value / bulk stuff overseas (China/Taiwan usually)	Mar 20 17:34
schestowitz	even Thailand and Vietnam for some parts	Mar 20 17:34
balrog	yeah	Mar 20 17:34
schestowitz	and these nations also import labour	Mar 20 17:34
schestowitz	for lower salaries	Mar 20 17:34
schestowitz	Some even gather workforce from indonesia	Mar 20 17:35
balrog	it's not at all surprising	Mar 20 17:35
balrog	it's pretty much the status quo	Mar 20 17:35
schestowitz	West outsources to China	Mar 20 17:35
schestowitz	China brings even cheaper labour from south east Asia	Mar 20 17:35
schestowitz	Singapore does that with Indians, Sri Lankans, and Chinese...	Mar 20 17:35
schestowitz	I came back from there 1.5 weeks ago	Mar 20 17:38
balrog	as for GPL, embarrassing large vendors works, but smaller vendors (like enterprise ones) can get away easier	Mar 20 17:41
balrog	I should contact the SFC but I'm not sure I still have any paper docs for this crap	Mar 20 17:42
balrog	and if they did include a GPL disclosure in the box, I guess they could get away with it	Mar 20 17:44
balrog	they make you clickthrough a typical EULA when downloading software updates	Mar 20 17:44
schestowitz	We did this with Tuxera	Mar 20 17:50
schestowitz	SFC got involved	Mar 20 17:50
schestowitz	but at the end they came up with some explanations	Mar 20 17:50
schestowitz	so we never really published much about it (last year mostly)	Mar 20 17:50
schestowitz	Pressuring small firms works too	Mar 20 17:50
schestowitz	they are more sensitive to brand destruction	Mar 20 17:50
balrog	well here they're shipping a modded kernel with lots of closed modules, modded samba (changing even the version number), etc	Mar 20 17:51
balrog	that's just the beginning, I'm sure there are 5 or 6 other things	Mar 20 17:51
balrog	funny enough the company was compliant when under the previous owners	Mar 20 17:51
schestowitz	Tuxera?	Mar 20 17:52
balrog	nope	Mar 20 17:53
balrog	the company that sells the hardware I've got here	Mar 20 17:53
schestowitz	enforcement needed (teeth) to add to the bark then...	Mar 20 18:03
schestowitz	maybe the vmware case will raise some awareness	Mar 20 18:03
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DaemonFC	I don't see what the big deal was with Samsung.	Mar 20 19:42
DaemonFC	It's not like there were trade secrets involved with releasing their open source bits.	Mar 20 19:43
DaemonFC	There was a patch here or there that fixed a couple of bugs in various parts of the software they use. Most companies are glad to give those away so they don't have to maintain a forked library or something.	Mar 20 19:43
balrog	DaemonFC: it should never be a big deal to release the code	Mar 20 19:46
balrog	has anyone here requested GPL source code from lenovo (non-android)?	Mar 20 19:47
balrog	this is just for something which they've released code but apparently not the latest	Mar 20 19:47
MinceR	https://archive.today/4xJO2	Mar 20 19:54
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MinceR	time to boycott winblows 10 logo labeled hardware	Mar 20 19:54
XRevan86	MinceR: What the…	Mar 20 19:55
MinceR	the next step in the death of the general-purpose computer	Mar 20 19:56
XRevan86	MinceR: This is just sick.	Mar 20 19:56
MinceR	brought to you by m$, intel and crApple	Mar 20 19:56
DaemonFC	MinceR, I doubt they'll ever get rid of the ability to use non-Windows store software.	Mar 20 19:56
MinceR	DaemonFC: i don't share your optimism	Mar 20 19:56
balrog	The implementation of Boot Guard worries me more	Mar 20 19:57
MinceR	that's another part of the problem	Mar 20 19:57
balrog	being able to authenticate the BIOS is not a bad idea, but burning the key into the CPU? I mean come on	Mar 20 19:57
MinceR	as always, the point is not security (despite their claims)	Mar 20 19:58
MinceR	the point is lock-in	Mar 20 19:59
balrog	putting an extra chip with the key would cost a few more bucks	Mar 20 19:59
MinceR	also, you could remove that extra chip or replace it	Mar 20 19:59
balrog	you can remove the CPU or replace it	Mar 20 19:59
cubexyz	btw the secure boot code is in the wild	Mar 20 19:59
cubexyz	it's been leaked	Mar 20 20:00
MinceR	and i suspect eventually a closely controlled and surveilled caste of programmers is the goal	Mar 20 20:00
balrog	and that's what people who want to do will do	Mar 20 20:00
balrog	cubexyz: you mean the private keys?	Mar 20 20:00
balrog	Boot Guard is separate from Secure Boot	Mar 20 20:00
MinceR	so that finally companies that try to make business by selling crap code can get rid of their competition	Mar 20 20:00
balrog	Secure Boot validates the OS bootloader	Mar 20 20:00
balrog	Boot Guard validates the BIOS	Mar 20 20:00
MinceR	and perhaps to generate the illusion that security by obscurity finally works	Mar 20 20:01
cubexyz	balrog, it's the code for Cedar Trail, Ivy Bridge, Luna Pier and Sandy Bridge	Mar 20 20:01
balrog	cubexyz: where is it?	Mar 20 20:01
cubexyz	yandex might have it :)	Mar 20 20:02
cubexyz	if you want FOSS bios you want chromebook/box or Lemote	Mar 20 20:04
cubexyz	there's a few others like certain Thinkpads	Mar 20 20:04
balrog	usually older machines that don't require the AMT blob	Mar 20 20:05
balrog	or non-intel	Mar 20 20:06
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MinceR	we'll need free computers with homebrew fabbing	Mar 20 20:06
MinceR	as we can't trust fascists to sell general-purpose computers to us for long	Mar 20 20:06
cubexyz	well there's FPGAs, they can't really stop that	Mar 20 20:08
cubexyz	the bios code is getting very complex	Mar 20 20:10
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MinceR	maybe they'll ban fpga-s too	Mar 20 20:14
cubexyz	Asus has a Linux PC you can buy them at a lot of places	Mar 20 20:16
cubexyz	Asus EeeBox	Mar 20 20:16
MinceR	what will be 10 years from now?	Mar 20 20:18
schestowitz	MinceR: wow	Mar 20 20:22
schestowitz	ms peter	Mar 20 20:22
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schestowitz	if true, proves techrights right, again	Mar 20 20:22
schestowitz	one step at a time... microsoft loves linux	Mar 20 20:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam's 2K 10th Anniversary Sale Has Linux	Mar 20 20:31
TweetTuxMachines	Goodies Going Cheap https://t.co/I3xx8frI0w	Mar 20 20:31
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balrog	cubexyz: FPGA development tools are anything but free	Mar 20 20:55
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MinceR	another thing that needs fixing	Mar 20 21:13
cubexyz	at least there's FOSS HDL simulation tools	Mar 20 21:15
cubexyz	Icarus and GHDL	Mar 20 21:15
cubexyz	then you can download a free (but not open source) Xilinx and Altera	Mar 20 21:15
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cubexyz	smart OEMs will allow one to disable secure boot and use it as a selling feature	Mar 20 21:28
MinceR	if any of them will care about that tiny minority of potential customers which knows what they're doing	Mar 20 21:28
cubexyz	I think ASUS cares	Mar 20 21:29
cubexyz	and i don't think the linux/bsd market is that tiny	Mar 20 21:29
cubexyz	a lot of scientists are running linux	Mar 20 21:29
MinceR	there are lots of idiots buying multi-thousand dollar facebook machines	Mar 20 21:30
MinceR	preferably with a crApple logo	Mar 20 21:30
cubexyz	you mean mac book pro, that sort of thing?	Mar 20 21:30
MinceR	that sort of thing	Mar 20 21:30
MinceR	hypePhones and hypePads too	Mar 20 21:30
MinceR	OnePort Air	Mar 20 21:30
MinceR	and apparently many former gnu/linux users just wanted a gratis winblows/macos knockoff	Mar 20 21:31
MinceR	and lendows is providing that now	Mar 20 21:31
abeNd-org	yea, we get execs "breaking" theirs every 6 months or so, so they can get new ones	Mar 20 21:31
cubexyz	ok, well all the more reason to research before you buy	Mar 20 21:33
cubexyz	which is a good idea anyways	Mar 20 21:33
MinceR	until there will be nothing left	Mar 20 21:34
MinceR	at which point research won't do you any good	Mar 20 21:34
cubexyz	a few years ago I wanted a motherboard that shipped with coreboot	Mar 20 21:37
cubexyz	now OEMs have sold millions of chromebookes/boxes	Mar 20 21:38
cubexyz	tjat	Mar 20 21:38
cubexyz	that is actually a good thing	Mar 20 21:38
MinceR	i'm not sure i'd like being forced into that choice	Mar 20 21:38
MinceR	with the tiny mass storage device and the mandatory delay on boot	Mar 20 21:38
cubexyz	the coreboot folks should be able to help you with that	Mar 20 21:43
cubexyz	http://kodi.wiki/view/Chromebox#Put_in_Developer_Mode	Mar 20 21:44
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MinceR	intel is trying to destroy coreboot and force their uefi in its place	Mar 20 21:44
MinceR	it would be nice if they had real competition	Mar 20 21:45
cubexyz	intel is actually pushing chromebooks	Mar 20 21:46
cubexyz	I think they all have intel cpus	Mar 20 21:47
MinceR	no	Mar 20 21:47
MinceR	some of them have ARM SoC-s	Mar 20 21:47
MinceR	and i think i saw some VIA CPU, too	Mar 20 21:48
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cubexyz	intel also makes ARM cpus	Mar 20 21:49
cubexyz	ARM doesn't manufacture cpu	Mar 20 21:50
MinceR	i thought they sold StrongARM to Marvell	Mar 20 21:50
MinceR	anyway, the ARM chromebooks i'm aware of use Samsung Exynos SoCs	Mar 20 21:50
MinceR	which all use ARM CPU core designs, afaik (Cortex)	Mar 20 21:50
cubexyz	yeah a lot of the Chromebook OEMs switched over to Intel around 2013	Mar 20 21:53
cubexyz	as you say, not all of them	Mar 20 21:53
cubexyz	not sure which one is better	Mar 20 21:54
MinceR	intel is faster, ARM is more power-efficient	Mar 20 21:55
MinceR	and ARM didn't need active cooling	Mar 20 21:55
MinceR	now it seems that intel finally managed to design mobile CPUs that don't need active cooling	Mar 20 21:55
MinceR	they both tend to be locked down	Mar 20 21:55
MinceR	http://www.theonion.com/articles/wall-street-firm-develops-new-highspeed-algorithm,38202/	Mar 20 21:59
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MinceR	gn	Mar 21 00:51
balrog	MinceR, cubexyz, I have friends who are working on that (though mainly for pragmatic reasons)	Mar 21 01:09
balrog	(which is fine by me)	Mar 21 01:09
balrog	cubexyz: heard of Yosys?	Mar 21 01:10
balrog	and http://www.lowrisc.org/docs/gsoc-2015-ideas/	Mar 21 01:11
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, I uninstalled Skype.	Mar 21 02:26
DaemonFC	The only person I really talked to on it told me of a program called Tox.	Mar 21 02:26
DaemonFC	Apparently, it's open source and uses strong encryption and doesn't log anything to your disk.	Mar 21 02:27
DaemonFC	I'm secure wiping the free space on my phone.	Mar 21 02:28
DaemonFC	I'm going to encrypt it after the wiping is complete.	Mar 21 02:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alpine Linux 3.1.3 released	Mar 21 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Sn5Qp8xTA6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy7af	Mar 21 03:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The best Chromebook ever: Google's 2015 Pixel	Mar 21 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G21ZiJhN6S (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy7ai	Mar 21 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The best Chromebook ever: Google's 2015 Pixel \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DAQ box runs Linux on Core i7, packs Spartan-6	Mar 21 05:49
TweetTuxMachines	FPGA http://t.co/27rteOOdxl (linuxgizmos.com)	Mar 21 05:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy89r	Mar 21 05:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| DAQ box runs Linux on Core i7, packs Spartan-6 FPGA · LinuxGizmos.com		Mar 21 05:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5 on Arch Linux review	Mar 21 05:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5CpyhJAh0z (fasterland.net)	Mar 21 05:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy89s	Mar 21 05:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fasterland.net \| KDE Plasma 5 on Arch Linux review - Fasterland		Mar 21 05:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Linux Keeps Growing Amid IoT	Mar 21 05:53
TweetTuxMachines	Disruption, Says Study http://t.co/dAKi60icYf	Mar 21 05:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 21 05:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8aj	Mar 21 05:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Things You Can Do in Android 5.1 That You	Mar 21 05:53
TweetTuxMachines	Couldn't Before http://t.co/RbY36IjwXh	Mar 21 05:53
TweetTuxMachines	(fieldguide.gizmodo.com)	Mar 21 05:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fieldguide.gizmodo.com \| 10 Things You Can Do in Android 5.1 That You Couldn't Before		Mar 21 05:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8ak	Mar 21 05:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The best Chromebook ever: Google's 2015 Pixel	Mar 21 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sC8U8bQhpo (www.zdnet.com)	Mar 21 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8bb	Mar 21 05:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| The best Chromebook ever: Google's 2015 Pixel \| ZDNet		Mar 21 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing 2lemetry ThingFabric, an Ubuntu	Mar 21 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	Snappy-Powered Internet of Things Platform	Mar 21 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/XuC24pkAs8 (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 21 05:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8bc	Mar 21 05:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Introducing 2lemetry ThingFabric, an Ubuntu Snappy-Powered Internet of Things Platform - Softpedia		Mar 21 05:56
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*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Introducing 2lemetry ThingFabric, an Ubuntu Snappy-Powered Internet of...'		Mar 21 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Tizen TV SDK 1.4 has been released	Mar 21 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mJlO24iCjD (www.tizenexperts.com)	Mar 21 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8bq	Mar 21 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| [Developer] Samsung Tizen TV SDK 1.4 has been released - Tizen Experts		Mar 21 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GLib2 Gets Ready for GNOME 3.16, Brings Support	Mar 21 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	for HTTP Proxies in GIO http://t.co/vHg9JPDKkn	Mar 21 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Mar 21 05:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8br	Mar 21 05:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Google is finally delivering a few perks that	Mar 21 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	didn’t make the cut when it rolled out Android	Mar 21 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	Lollipop." http://t.co/s72GbbIXIJ	Mar 21 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	(thenextweb.com)	Mar 21 06:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8f1	Mar 21 06:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com \| The Five Things Android Finally Got Right With 5.1		Mar 21 06:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BioShock Infinite Is The Latest Game Showing	Mar 21 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	Why Linux Gamers Choose NVIDIA	Mar 21 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZmhZ3fAJ5g (www.phoronix.com)	Mar 21 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8fs	Mar 21 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| BioShock Infinite Is The Latest Game Showing Why Linux Gamers Choose NVIDIA - Phoronix		Mar 21 06:13
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'BioShock Infinite Is The Latest Game Showing Why...'		Mar 21 06:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chromebooks powered by Rockchip processors	Mar 21 06:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mpymIXfIeu (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 21 06:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8iz	Mar 21 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| ASUS C201 Chromebook with Rockchip RK3288 SoC Coming Soon - Softpedia		Mar 21 06:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gmail-Friendly Email Clients Available on Linux	Mar 21 06:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GkRRGRv0yW (www.linux.com)	Mar 21 06:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8j0	Mar 21 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Gmail-Friendly Email Clients Available on Linux \| Linux.com		Mar 21 06:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core	Mar 21 06:26
TweetTuxMachines	Atom SoC http://t.co/aSc5IgyrQT	Mar 21 06:26
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Mar 21 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core Atom SoC · LinuxGizmos.com		Mar 21 06:26
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lirodon	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/ Microsoft is allowing Windows 10 devices to have Insecure Boot permamently enabled	Mar 21 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Windows 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jy8jp ]		Mar 21 06:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel 3.19.2 Is Available Via The Default	Mar 21 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	Repositories Of Arch Linux And Derivatives	Mar 21 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/D2IY7xsU3o (linuxg.net)	Mar 21 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8o0	Mar 21 06:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| Kernel 3.19.2 Is Available Via The Default Repositories Of Arch Linux And Derivatives \| LinuxG.net		Mar 21 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Insync 1.2 Released With New HTML5 UI	Mar 21 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/o7o49uLp3a (www.webupd8.org)	Mar 21 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8o1	Mar 21 06:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org \| Insync 1.2 Released With New HTML5 UI ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog		Mar 21 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ASUS C201 Chromebook with Rockchip RK3288 SoC	Mar 21 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	Coming Soon http://t.co/KaZwQ1q3Xc	Mar 21 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 06:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8o2	Mar 21 06:50
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5795412	Mar 21 07:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This Declassified #CIA Report Shows the Shaky Case for the #Iraq War http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/03/cia-iraq-bush-wmd-report lying to funnel money to #war (and oil) industry		Mar 21 07:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com \| This Declassified CIA Report Shows the Shaky Case for the Iraq War \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/jy8t5 ]		Mar 21 07:11
schestowitz	"Have you ever read the national defense whitepaper from the Project for a New American Century? They used to have it on their site but the entire site has been gone for about a year now. I think the think tank went underground."	Mar 21 07:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5796232	Mar 21 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What’s Scarier: Terrorism, or Governments Blocking Websites in its Name? https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/17/whats-scarier-terrorism-governments-unilaterally-blocking-websites-name/ #censorship on the rise		Mar 21 07:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org \| What's Scarier: Terrorism, or Governments Blocking Websites in its Name? - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/jy8tu ]		Mar 21 07:14
schestowitz	"	Mar 21 07:14
schestowitz	What is 'a distinction without a difference', for $500?	Mar 21 07:14
schestowitz	(that's a US game show reference to 'Jeopardy')	Mar 21 07:14
schestowitz	"	Mar 21 07:14
schestowitz	'You get the answer, and have to provide the correct response in the form of a question... :p"	Mar 21 07:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5727842	Mar 21 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: That awkward moment you realise your PCs at home are all unreachable (whilst away) and cause unknown (crash/network/fire/breakin)... :-/		Mar 21 07:16
schestowitz	"What happened?"	Mar 21 07:16
schestowitz	Session crash in Debian	Mar 21 07:16
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5706608	Mar 21 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Scanning about 15 family photo albums today, had to take a break for a while in case there's important news.		Mar 21 07:17
schestowitz	http://50.80.140.55/photo_album/chron/2010/2010_05_27-scanning/	Mar 21 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-50.80.140.55 \| 2010_05_27-scanning [ http://ur1.ca/jy8uh ]		Mar 21 07:17
schestowitz	":( If it's any help, here's pictures of one of my last big scanning efforts. I've got a hand held scanner now but still like the flat beds."	Mar 21 07:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5797755	Mar 21 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nadella is a liar and a fraud. #microsoft does not love #linux as it continues to attack it. http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/201722-linuxs-worst-case-scenario-microsoft-makes-secure-boot-mandatory-locks-out-other-operating-systems		Mar 21 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.extremetech.com \| Linux’s worst-case scenario: Windows 10 makes Secure Boot mandatory, locks out other operating systems \| ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/jy8ul ]		Mar 21 07:17
schestowitz	"I'm scared to get a computer with UEFI, for fear that I can't boot into a decent OS."	Mar 21 07:17
schestowitz	So boycott UEFI. It's all a patent trap.	Mar 21 07:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Learn All The Basic Ubuntu Touch Tips And	Mar 21 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	Tricks With The Ubuntu Help App	Mar 21 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4BViETnS0v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy91z	Mar 21 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Learn All The Basic Ubuntu Touch Tips And Tricks With The Ubuntu Help App \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core	Mar 21 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	Atom SoC http://t.co/qk30uS3c0f	Mar 21 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy920	Mar 21 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core Atom SoC \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Releases Firefox 36.0.3 to Patch the	Mar 21 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	Security Vulnerabilities Disclosed at Pwn2Own	Mar 21 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qn0TLP4bTC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 07:51
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy921	Mar 21 07:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla Releases Firefox 36.0.3 to Patch the Security Vulnerabilities Disclosed at Pwn2Own \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 07:51
cubexyz	balorg, looks interesting	Mar 21 07:52
cubexyz	balrog	Mar 21 07:52
*TweetTuxMachines @StephDAVOS favourited 'Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core Atom...'		Mar 21 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Extirpating systemd from Debian	Mar 21 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7FbEw5LvMg	Mar 21 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	(multixden.blogspot.co.uk) "all my debian	Mar 21 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-multixden.blogspot.co.uk \| The Art is Long: Extirpating systemd from Debian		Mar 21 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	machines switched to systemd without my	Mar 21 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	consent"	Mar 21 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy93f	Mar 21 07:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines In the market for a $40 Android tablet? Take a	Mar 21 08:20
TweetTuxMachines	look at the Jide Ultra Remix Android tablet	Mar 21 08:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/14hyucV3yg (www.digitaltrends.com)	Mar 21 08:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy98e	Mar 21 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Get The Jide Ultra Remix Android Tablet for $40 \| Digital Trends		Mar 21 08:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/UsDe5zYPz1	Mar 21 08:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 08:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/579195902377611264	Mar 21 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Rhv5XRzz9W	Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy98j	Mar 21 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.39 and CrossOver 14.1	Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FCHI6AeSet (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy98o	Mar 21 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Wine 1.7.39 and CrossOver 14.1 \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/n6PdR0cNCu	Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy98q	Mar 21 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/MkyIaDcG7i	Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 08:21
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy98s	Mar 21 08:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 08:21
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*TweetTuxMachines @RedditComGame favourited 'Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Rhv5XRzz9W'		Mar 21 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 21/3/2015: Alpine Linux 3.1.3, Tizen TV	Mar 21 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	SDK 1.4 http://t.co/vhAgiQNle6 (techrights.org)	Mar 21 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy9wo	Mar 21 10:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 21/3/2015: Alpine Linux 3.1.3, Tizen TV SDK 1.4 \| Techrights		Mar 21 10:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux – Part I – The UEFI	Mar 21 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	Attack on GNU/Linux http://t.co/Ln27NVKXJE	Mar 21 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Mar 21 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jyaf5	Mar 21 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part I – The UEFI Attack on GNU/Linux \| Techrights		Mar 21 11:39
cubexyz	ASUS EeeBox also has permanently embedded Linux	Mar 21 11:55
cubexyz	ok, 2014/2015 is a new era... you can go to the local store and buy a Linux computer	Mar 21 11:57
cubexyz	vast improvement over previous years	Mar 21 11:57
cubexyz	also CybertronPC LyNX1 Desktop PC with AMD Athlon 5150 Linux Ubuntu 12.1 available for $350	Mar 21 12:02
cubexyz	I guess 12.1 is a bit old but still, no windows tax	Mar 21 12:04
cubexyz	I don't think systemd was added to Ubuntu until 15.04	Mar 21 12:05
XRevan86	What's Ubuntu 12.1?	Mar 21 12:07
XRevan86	cubexyz: Do you mean 12.10 or 12.04?	Mar 21 12:07
cubexyz	yes sorry, 12.10	Mar 21 12:09
cubexyz	Quantal Quetzal	Mar 21 12:09
cubexyz	the ad on the web page for Canada Computers listed it as 12.1	Mar 21 12:10
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cubexyz	ugh, sorry not Canada Computers... Tigerdirect.ca	Mar 21 12:10
XRevan86	12.10 is an insane choice anyway.	Mar 21 12:11
XRevan86	which means how much do they care	Mar 21 12:11
cubexyz	it seems that's what the eee box and CybertronPC come with	Mar 21 12:11
cubexyz	not my first choice either :)	Mar 21 12:12
XRevan86	Even in 2012/2013 it would be much more wise to choose 12.04 than 12.10.	Mar 21 12:13
cubexyz	I'm curious if they are selling the windows CybertronPC for less though	Mar 21 12:13
cubexyz	if they are the same specs	Mar 21 12:14
cubexyz	ah, they have perfect option for us... no OS :)	Mar 21 12:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: What's the difference with Ubuntu? :)	Mar 21 12:15
XRevan86	Obsolete Ubuntu costs as much as no OS at all.	Mar 21 12:15
cubexyz	well I'm thinking at least it should work well with Linux	Mar 21 12:16
cubexyz	I probably would check out Ubuntu for 3 minutes then delete it	Mar 21 12:16
XRevan86	Also I've seen a laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled which… actually has problems (broadcom).	Mar 21 12:16
XRevan86	So having a preinstalled OS does not always mean that it'll work.	Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux – Part II – Patent	Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	Lawsuits Against Android/Linux Still Going On,	Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	New Ones Filed	Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/smqye9zeJV (techrights.org)	Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jyan0	Mar 21 12:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part II – Patent Lawsuits Against Android/Linux Still Going On, New Ones Filed \| Techrights		Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux - Part III - Abducting	Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	the Competition (Android)	Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CzWkeH6aOg (techrights.org)	Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jyan1	Mar 21 12:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part III – Abducting the Competition (Android) \| Techrights		Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux – Part IV – Deleting,	Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	Attacking Android/Linux From Within	Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nBMn4kILhu (techrights.org)	Mar 21 12:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jyan2	Mar 21 12:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part IV – Deleting, Attacking Android/Linux From Within \| Techrights		Mar 21 12:17
XRevan86	cubexyz: And LinpusOS which was preinstalled on my mothers laptop didn't even work out of the box (misconfiguration).	Mar 21 12:18
cubexyz	hmmm, what was wrong with it?	Mar 21 12:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: Old Linux kernel had problems with modeset on that laptop.	Mar 21 12:19
XRevan86	so they had to append nomodeset to GRUB or use a more fresh OS	Mar 21 12:19
XRevan86	but out of the box… vivu la kernel panic	Mar 21 12:19
cubexyz	wow that's not good	Mar 21 12:19
XRevan86	cubexyz: Good part is that I don't believe in OEM anyway.	Mar 21 12:21
cubexyz	a bit hard to avoid OEM for laptops	Mar 21 12:21
cubexyz	of course you can always assemble your own desktop/tower	Mar 21 12:22
XRevan86	cubexyz: These "Linux"'s and FreeDOS's they ship are as good as no OS.	Mar 21 12:22
XRevan86	Of course, if Windows is shipped or even required, things get more complicated.	Mar 21 12:23
cubexyz	except if the PC ships with Linux at least you know that secureboot was turned off	Mar 21 12:23
cubexyz	or perhaps it doesn't have secureboot at all	Mar 21 12:24
XRevan86	cubexyz: Sure. Now it's even more actual.	Mar 21 12:24
XRevan86	cubexyz: Or not sure since some distros have SecureBoot keys so they'll work even without SecureBoot that can be disabled.	Mar 21 12:25
XRevan86	including Ubuntu	Mar 21 12:26
cubexyz	I guess that's a good thing	Mar 21 12:26
cubexyz	not really ideal though	Mar 21 12:26
XRevan86	> except if the PC ships with Linux at least you know that secureboot was turned off	Mar 21 12:26
XRevan86	cubexyz: Point is: no, you don't.	Mar 21 12:26
cubexyz	well, what about freedos? I doubt that has secureboot keys	Mar 21 12:27
XRevan86	cubexyz: It doesn't even support UEFI.	Mar 21 12:27
XRevan86	cubexyz: Still, I suspect, if SecureBoot will become an issue it wants to be, vendors will suddenly realize that FreeDOS sucks.	Mar 21 12:28
XRevan86	cubexyz: And so, one should check a laptop before buying it from now on.	Mar 21 12:31
cubexyz	couldn't you just boot from usb or something?	Mar 21 12:31
XRevan86	whether it has SecureBoot that can be disabled	Mar 21 12:31
cubexyz	definitely, it would be my first question	Mar 21 12:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: SecureBoot prevents unsigned booting from USB, too.	Mar 21 12:32
cubexyz	ah	Mar 21 12:32
cubexyz	well then it goes back to whether or not you can turn secureboot off	Mar 21 12:33
cubexyz	seems overly limiting to me	Mar 21 12:33
cubexyz	indeed, it seems like a control mechanism	Mar 21 12:33
cubexyz	but I know intel chromebooks have seabios, and that will boot freedos	Mar 21 12:34
XRevan86	cubexyz: Chromebooks will not have SecureBoot of course.	Mar 21 12:34
XRevan86	they have their own ways of restriction	Mar 21 12:35
cubexyz	have you ever seen a motherboard that had secureboot that couldn't be turned off?	Mar 21 12:35
XRevan86	cubexyz: No, Win10 is not released yet.	Mar 21 12:35
XRevan86	Win8 certification requires an option to disable SecureBoot.	Mar 21 12:37
XRevan86	I wonder what antimonopoly services will say.	Mar 21 12:38
XRevan86	I suspect nothing	Mar 21 12:38
schestowitz	[02:29] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I uninstalled Skype.	Mar 21 12:39
schestowitz	+1	Mar 21 12:39
cubexyz	what you mean like the US DOJ or European Union?	Mar 21 12:39
schestowitz	someone asked me to install it recently	Mar 21 12:39
schestowitz	I did not even reply	Mar 21 12:39
cubexyz	surely they will do something	Mar 21 12:39
XRevan86	cubexyz: Any.	Mar 21 12:39
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cubexyz	I'm assuming one could overwrite the firmware itself and put coreboot on	Mar 21 12:41
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XRevan86	cubexyz: On Chromebooks?	Mar 21 12:41
cubexyz	chromebooks or other motheboards	Mar 21 12:42
XRevan86	coreboot is very limited	Mar 21 12:42
XRevan86	one should choose what to buy carefully with looking at what coreboot supports	Mar 21 12:42
cubexyz	in the "old" days, I looked for socketed bios, pop it out and reprogram it	Mar 21 12:43
cubexyz	I guess Purism's Librem laptop was necessary	Mar 21 12:45
cubexyz	Dell has the M3800 mobile workstation, that comes with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS	Mar 21 12:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/579265044019568640	Mar 21 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz This is something that I discussed with a N Korean senior scientist. Works for Kim Jong. Which is better or worse ? @ruskin147		Mar 21 12:57
schestowitz	US is better by definition... of US media	Mar 21 12:57
cubexyz	Acer Veriton N2620G nettop, also shipped with freedos	Mar 21 12:58
cubexyz	not sure if they still sell that one	Mar 21 12:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux - Part V - Dumping and	Mar 21 13:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz @ruskin147 Yes. It's difficult if you are a media person. So many rules and regulations that stop you from publishing anything		Mar 21 13:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz @WIRED huh this has been around since 1989. Not sure this is new news. What are tools of 2015		Mar 21 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz @WIRED why is wide band spectrum analysis banned in P act		Mar 21 13:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579275575560249344	Mar 21 13:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz worked for DOC NIST NSA. The men working there are not evil or anti freedom.fraternity of politicos needs to be placed on rack		Mar 21 13:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579280866834137088	Mar 21 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz I think the focus is on the tool not the tool user. Our national complacency and ignorance has enabled these fools to rule us		Mar 21 13:59
schestowitz	"@harry_haller It's so true what you say. Tomorrow it's you or me. So the people (chosen by us) who should protect us are only frightening us and are able to put us away whenever they want."	Mar 21 14:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5795736	Mar 21 14:00
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579281266454888448	Mar 21 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz I leave it at free all the data regardless of consequences the people controlling it now have long lost moral high ground		Mar 21 14:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Unable to beat Linux, Microsoft tries dirty tricks http://is.gd/oEkWPe . Need for free hardware strengthens.		Mar 21 14:03
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schestowitz	"Maybe this will launch a whole new industry of Linux pre-loaded PCs, i.e. the end of the era of buying a Windows machine and then installing linux. This could be Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot."	Mar 21 14:03
schestowitz	This is wishful thinking	Mar 21 14:04
cubexyz	well it's always correct to say "Microsoft tries dirty tricks" :)	Mar 21 14:04
cubexyz	this effects a lot of different groups like Plan 9, the BSDs, AROS, Minix, ReactOS, etc	Mar 21 14:07
cubexyz	it's utter nonsense that all these operating systems will get locked out	Mar 21 14:08
cubexyz	what if you are developing a research project for your own OS?	Mar 21 14:09
cubexyz	the whole idea of secure boot is madness	Mar 21 14:09
cubexyz	they could have done something smart... like hard drives with a jumper setting to make the boot sector read-only	Mar 21 14:11
XRevan86	cubexyz: UEFI doesn't have a boot sector.	Mar 21 14:11
XRevan86	http://fi8.eu.apcdn.com/full/126411.jpg	Mar 21 14:13
XRevan86	cubexyz: own OS? That's not Windows therefore should not live.	Mar 21 14:14
cubexyz	XRevan86, I beleive MIT has an operating system development course	Mar 21 14:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: So obsolete	Mar 21 14:15
cubexyz	all such courses are going to devote a certain amount of time to historical overviews of operating systems	Mar 21 14:18
cubexyz	got to start at the beginning	Mar 21 14:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: Anyway, if they want to teach non-Windows OS development (for historical reasons?), they can use Microsoft Windows 10 with Microsoft Hyper-V for virtualization.	Mar 21 14:18
schestowitz	XRevan86: heh	Mar 21 14:23
schestowitz	Seen it before	Mar 21 14:23
cubexyz	the 'oddball' OSes have hardware lists, e.g. QNX, Plan 9, etc	Mar 21 14:24
schestowitz	Apple fits better	Mar 21 14:24
schestowitz	with its 'i' things	Mar 21 14:24
cubexyz	no one is going to want to get locked out	Mar 21 14:24
schestowitz	two OSes, OSuX and hypeOS	Mar 21 14:24
schestowitz	Google has ChromeOS and Android	Mar 21 14:24
schestowitz	Microsoft has, well... Windows{r)	Mar 21 14:24
schestowitz	but used to have Windows Mobile	Mar 21 14:24
cubexyz	I'm sure IBM isn't going to use Windows 10 on their mainframes	Mar 21 14:25
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cubexyz	everyone will just have to be a bit more observant	Mar 21 14:26
cubexyz	I assume what will actually happen is that all or at least most motherboards will have an option to turn off secure boot	Mar 21 14:28
schestowitz	wb zoobab	Mar 21 14:28
XRevan86	cubexyz: Or so it seems.	Mar 21 14:28
XRevan86	since Microsoft made that move, they've made it for something	Mar 21 14:29
XRevan86	I've seen a suggestion that it's for making top laptops SecureBoot-only.	Mar 21 14:30
cubexyz	there's been cases of firmware hardcoded for Windows... on certain Lenovo laptops	Mar 21 14:31
cubexyz	so it's a reasonable concern	Mar 21 14:32
cubexyz	I know FSF runs a fair bit of old hardware, as I do	Mar 21 14:33
cubexyz	there could also be UEFI motherboards without secureboot	Mar 21 14:36
MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/w4cgjdU.jpg	Mar 21 14:36
cubexyz	another problem is the microcontroller in the chipset itself often needs a signed firmware binary	Mar 21 14:41
cubexyz	I don't think even google has this intel source code	Mar 21 14:42
cubexyz	but... here's the thing... a bunch of firmware code is in the wild already	Mar 21 14:44
cubexyz	I hear that microsoft tools are nearly always used, so yes Microsoft without a doubt has a lot of influence	Mar 21 14:46
cubexyz	the leaks I know about are 1999 award bios and 2011 AMI firmware code	Mar 21 14:47
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cubexyz	gluglug offers an aftermarket service.. you send your Thinkpad (only certain models) and gluglug will put libreboot firmware on it	Mar 21 14:54
cubexyz	also you get Atheros AR5B95 wifi adapter installed, so you can use linux drivers for wifi without needing any binary blobs	Mar 21 14:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @Pinekatz What's broken can't be fixed without changing the system imo. At this point I'd never ever advice Americans to 1/2		Mar 21 17:01
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msb_	cubexyz: Does that PCB maker machine work with boards that have wiring on top and bottom, and a ground-plane in the middle?	Mar 21 17:51
cubexyz	msb_, I was just told about it by a Waterloo employee today	Mar 21 17:53
cubexyz	there's more info at:	Mar 21 17:53
cubexyz	http://www.voltera.io	Mar 21 17:53
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msb_	cubexyz: I don't see the answer there. From the terminology they use, I think my question would seem very stupid to them. I've never made a PCB.	Mar 21 17:55
cubexyz	it's a two layer board so you could be right	Mar 21 17:56
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msb_	doesn't say anything about a ground plane	Mar 21 17:57
msb_	don't you need a ground plane for high speed (computer) circuitry	Mar 21 17:58
msb_	?	Mar 21 17:58
msb_	to avoid crosstalk between nearby traces	Mar 21 17:59
cubexyz	no I think you're right	Mar 21 18:00
cubexyz	every motherboard has a ground plane	Mar 21 18:00
msb_	a power plane is nice too	Mar 21 18:00
msb_	I think mobos are about 6 layer	Mar 21 18:00
cubexyz	it's copper foil usually	Mar 21 18:01
cubexyz	not sure what Voltera does	Mar 21 18:01
msb_	I think they just make the fab machine (for about $1800). You buy the boards elsewhere.	Mar 21 18:02
cubexyz	there's blank boards of different sizes	Mar 21 18:04
msb_	with a groundplane the traces act like transmission lines. Without it they act like antennas.	Mar 21 18:04
cubexyz	you get a few blank boards with it	Mar 21 18:05
cubexyz	beats wire wrapping :)	Mar 21 18:08
cubexyz	I wonder how long it took DEC to make a PDP-11	Mar 21 18:09
msb_	I thought God created the PDP-11 and DEC just sold them.	Mar 21 18:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0.6 Now Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.9 LTS	Mar 15 03:23
TweetTuxMachines	For Raspberry Pi 2 http://t.co/RPusxQ1LCw	Mar 15 03:23
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 03:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxpq	Mar 15 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OpenELEC 5.0.6 Now Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.9 LTS For Raspberry Pi 2 \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 03:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How To Install Tor Browser 4.0.4 In Linux To	Mar 15 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	Surf Anonymously http://t.co/3SuJm5OUIu	Mar 15 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxw3	Mar 15 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| How To Install Tor Browser 4.0.4 In Linux To Surf Anonymously \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xtra-PC Helps Non-Technical People Install	Mar 15 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	Linux on an Old PC http://t.co/VfTfqwWqTw	Mar 15 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	(lifehacker.com)	Mar 15 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com \| Xtra-PC Helps Non-Technical People Install LInux on an Old PC		Mar 15 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxw4	Mar 15 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android 5.1 Hides A Little Secret - Google VPN	Mar 15 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/W9hYkZQiys (www.techtimes.com)	Mar 15 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxw5	Mar 15 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com \| Android 5.1 Hides A Little Secret - Google VPN : PERSONAL TECH : Tech Times		Mar 15 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro XFCE 0.9.0-pre4 edition released	Mar 15 04:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bMlptiVRKc (manjaro.github.io)	Mar 15 04:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxwq	Mar 15 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io \| Manjaro XFCE 0.9.0-pre4 edition released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity		Mar 15 04:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha MATE/Compiz Screenshot Tour	Mar 15 04:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pdnjMee6kC (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 04:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxws	Mar 15 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Fedora 22 Alpha MATE/Compiz Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 15 04:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Control Center 3.14.3 Brings Support for	Mar 15 04:00
TweetTuxMachines	NetworkManager 1.0 http://t.co/Y9aqFjn21v	Mar 15 04:00
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Control Center 3.14.3 Brings Support for NetworkManager 1.0 - Softpedia		Mar 15 04:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwxwt	Mar 15 04:00
schestowitz	> "A 20-minute online video chat with a Maricopa County	Mar 15 04:17
schestowitz	> inmate costs $5. That's the promotional rate	Mar 15 04:17
schestowitz	> ... it had to steer visitors toward remote visits,	Mar 15 04:17
schestowitz	> which can cost up to $1 per minute."	Mar 15 04:17
schestowitz	>	Mar 15 04:17
schestowitz	> http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/jail-prison-video-visitation	Mar 15 04:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com \| Prison Phone Companies Have Found Yet Another Way to Squeeze Families for Cash \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/jwxzz ]		Mar 15 04:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OpenELEC 5.0.6 Now Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.9 LTS	Mar 15 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	For Raspberry Pi 2 http://t.co/2SMjQVJ0Vf	Mar 15 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 04:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| OpenELEC 5.0.6 Now Uses Linux Kernel 3.18.9 LTS For Raspberry Pi 2 - Softpedia		Mar 15 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwy5w	Mar 15 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xtra-PC Helps Non-Technical People Install	Mar 15 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	Linux on an Old PC http://t.co/Opkqplrwg7	Mar 15 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwy5z	Mar 15 04:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Xtra-PC Helps Non-Technical People Install Linux on an Old PC \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel Developers Summarize Linux Storage	Mar 15 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	Filesystem and Memory Management Summit	Mar 15 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LUOgJrkhPb (www.linux.com)	Mar 15 04:52
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwy60	Mar 15 04:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Kernel Developers Summarize Linux Storage Filesystem and Memory Management Summit \| Linux.com		Mar 15 04:52
*TweetTuxMachines @Fusion4Hosting favourited 'Kernel Developers Summarize Linux Storage Filesystem and Memory...'		Mar 15 04:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gallery: 7 Android and Linux Smartwatches to	Mar 15 04:58
TweetTuxMachines	Take on the Apple Watch http://t.co/WMde1TNhNc	Mar 15 04:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 15 04:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwy74	Mar 15 04:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| 7 Android and Linux Smartwatches to Take on the Apple Watch \| Linux.com		Mar 15 04:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 10 Linux and Android Products from Mobile	Mar 15 05:54
TweetTuxMachines	World Congress http://t.co/Z1qucGNahj	Mar 15 05:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com) Gallery: http://t.co/JDuTRjuAlx	Mar 15 05:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 15 05:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyfg	Mar 15 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Top 10 Linux and Android Products from Mobile World Congress \| Linux.com		Mar 15 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Top 10 Linux and Android Products from MWC 2015 \| Linux.com		Mar 15 05:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Week in Techrights http://t.co/FWsxabasUR	Mar 15 05:54
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 05:54
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz	Mar 15 05:54
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwycv	Mar 15 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Week in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 05:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Ported to Raspberry Pi 2	Mar 15 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/MlH4XWB7rg (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyj6	Mar 15 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Ported to Raspberry Pi 2 - Softpedia		Mar 15 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux distribution based on Ubuntu that will	Mar 15 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	power the NXQ mini ARM PC."	Mar 15 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/i7kItl63zu (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyj7	Mar 15 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nitrux OS Is a Linux Distro Running on the NXQ Mini PC, Looks Amazing - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 15 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Lite 2.4 Beta is out	Mar 15 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lGG19ElYgB (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyj8	Mar 15 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Linux Lite 2.4 Beta Brings Support for Microsoft’s exFAT File System - Softpedia		Mar 15 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Dead Island, X Series and Broken Sword 5 Up to	Mar 15 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	75% Off on Steam http://t.co/ez0WQCAthU	Mar 15 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxarena.com)	Mar 15 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxarena.com \| Dead Island, X Series and Broken Sword 5 Up to 75% Off on Steam \| TuxArena		Mar 15 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyqq	Mar 15 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source: A Cross-Industry Hero	Mar 15 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/gaDtOM4SAV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyqs	Mar 15 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Open Source: A Cross-Industry Hero \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Top 10 Linux and Android Products from Mobile	Mar 15 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	World Congress http://t.co/txAiVLagBf	Mar 15 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 07:03
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyqu	Mar 15 07:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Top 10 Linux and Android Products from Mobile World Congress \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 07:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Docker Expansion http://t.co/UJxMqPyBbH	Mar 15 07:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyy1	Mar 15 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Docker Expansion \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Ported to Raspberry Pi 2	Mar 15 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/pYXiFRUBZn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyy2	Mar 15 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu MATE 15.04 Ported to Raspberry Pi 2 \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux Lite 2.4 Beta Brings Support for	Mar 15 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	Microsoft’s exFAT File System	Mar 15 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/YtiPREsZBQ (error)	Mar 15 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwyy3	Mar 15 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Lite 2.4 Beta Brings Support for Microsoft’s exFAT File System \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 08:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Purdue expands use of open-source software,	Mar 15 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	cuts costs http://t.co/0HGBhWYkMz	Mar 15 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz3s	Mar 15 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Purdue expands use of open-source software, cuts costs \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Vendors "change the behaviour of their firmware	Mar 15 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	and breaking things in the process."	Mar 15 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Ix3g0CY6Py (mjg59.dreamwidth.org)	Mar 15 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz3u	Mar 15 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org \| mjg59 \| Vendors continue to break things		Mar 15 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google reportedly building Android for virtual	Mar 15 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	reality hardware http://t.co/JV4YAIwGjG	Mar 15 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Mar 15 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Google reportedly building Android for virtual reality hardware \| ZDNet		Mar 15 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz3v	Mar 15 08:43
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__martin__	hello	Mar 15 08:47
XRevan86	__martin__: hi	Mar 15 08:47
__martin__	petition against increased surveillance reached 675+- signatants (including me) (=	Mar 15 08:47
__martin__	surely it been reshared enough // atm watching william binney's two hour long interview	Mar 15 08:48
__martin__	has	Mar 15 08:48
__martin__	*	Mar 15 08:48
__martin__	650**	Mar 15 08:49
__martin__	http://www.changenet.sk/?section=kampane&x=796541	Mar 15 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.changenet.sk \| CHANGENET.SK \| Kampane \| Tajn sluba chce viac moci. 11 zmien, aby ju nezneuvala (podporte ich) [ http://ur1.ca/jwz4f ]		Mar 15 08:49
__martin__	http://dsl.sk/article.php?article=16777	Mar 15 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dsl.sk \| DSL.sk - Zkon prike odovzda ifrovacie ke ttu, vznikla hromadn pripomienka proti		Mar 15 08:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual	Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	but lags a bit in performance	Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/VbjLkSgG78	Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	(mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk)	Mar 15 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk \| Linuxed - Exploring Linux distros: Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual but lags a bit in performance		Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6j	Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Linux distribution based on Ubuntu that will	Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	power the NXQ mini ARM PC."	Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/i7kItl63zu (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6k	Mar 15 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Nitrux OS Is a Linux Distro Running on the NXQ Mini PC, Looks Amazing - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 Warning Signs That You’re Meant to Switch to	Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/d0eCoq2TZX	Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 15 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| 7 Warning Signs That You're Meant to Switch to Linux		Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6l	Mar 15 09:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.04 Is Turning Out Quite Nice: A Good	Mar 15 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	Way To Try Out The Latest KDE Experience	Mar 15 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HJw2LRxGd8 (www.phoronix.com)	Mar 15 09:06
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwz6x	Mar 15 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| Kubuntu 15.04 Is Turning Out Quite Nice: A Good Way To Try Out The Latest KDE Experience - Phoronix		Mar 15 09:06
*TweetTuxMachines @JRepin favourited 'Plasma is my new favorite desktop http://t.co/g6hra1Kmyv'		Mar 15 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com \| Plasma is my new favorite desktop \| OCS-Mag		Mar 15 09:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4 Linux Music Players That Deserve Your	Mar 15 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	Attention Now	Mar 15 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nDPZqZGxGm (www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 15 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzav	Mar 15 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| 4 Linux Music Players That Deserve Your Attention Now		Mar 15 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers	Mar 15 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	from Windows and Mac http://t.co/Zue0WQ4shN	Mar 15 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 15 09:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzaw	Mar 15 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac		Mar 15 09:34
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XRevan86	> Didn’t know they watch Fox in Russia	Mar 15 09:37
XRevan86	schestowitz: Me too.	Mar 15 09:37
schestowitz	http://rt.com/usa/240829-kill-russians-fox-general-defiant/	Mar 15 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rt.com \| NO TITLE [ http://ur1.ca/jwzbb ]		Mar 15 09:37
*TweetTuxMachines @kdecommunity favourited 'Kubuntu 15.04 Is Turning Out Quite Nice: A...'		Mar 15 09:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Q&A: raw engineering on how open source	Mar 15 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	‘changed the world’ http://t.co/HJHCAPCvw0	Mar 15 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzcz	Mar 15 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Q&A: raw engineering on how open source ‘changed the world’ \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 09:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	but lags a bit in performance	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/kXJtBwFn4t (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzd7	Mar 15 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Netrunner 15 Review: Looks fantastic as usual but lags a bit in performance \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 7 Warning Signs That You’re Meant to Switch to	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/tAi3vGUx3f	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzd8	Mar 15 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 7 Warning Signs That You’re Meant to Switch to Linux \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	from Windows and Mac http://t.co/6wnhxq9OEG	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzda	Mar 15 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Best Linux Distros for First Time Switchers from Windows and Mac \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 4 reasons CIOs should give open source a second	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	look http://t.co/7ZwQqkiEG5	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 15 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jwzdb	Mar 15 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4 reasons CIOs should give open source a second look \| Tux Machines		Mar 15 09:50
*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Q&A: raw engineering on how open source ‘changed...'		Mar 15 09:50
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/ArtVolumeOne/status/577113544128376832	Mar 15 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArtVolumeOne: @schestowitz @ioerror 11/14 & https://t.co/3FV0H8qo68 https://t.co/jMYlzTXtml		Mar 15 10:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArtVolumeOne: & you can be certain 'warring cyber tribes' of anti-NSA hackers who love to hack your personal data & the criminal enterprise that is NSA ..		Mar 15 10:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ArtVolumeOne: Is there a diff btw some- hackers who criminally target/spy on people, reading/stealing emails/etc & unconstitutional dragnet spying of NSA?		Mar 15 10:29
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/577118441724882944	Mar 15 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz I'm still using 14/10/1066 as a reason to slag off, spy on and look down upon the people of Hastings.		Mar 15 10:47
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*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited '4 reasons CIOs should give open source a...'		Mar 15 12:25
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MinceR	geekings	Mar 15 13:22
XRevan86	MinceR: geekaluton	Mar 15 13:22
XRevan86	Lost Geekings 2: Gnuse by Gnusewest.	Mar 15 13:23
MinceR	XRevan86: "wlterm draws its own decoration" -- so much for that	Mar 15 13:25
XRevan86	MinceR: It's weston-terminal	Mar 15 13:27
XRevan86	MinceR: I was mistaken	Mar 15 13:27
MinceR	seems to be undocumented, in true lendows fashion	Mar 15 13:30
MinceR	afaik weston only supports CSD anyway	Mar 15 13:31
XRevan86	Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter when the promise of a brave new world unfurled beneath a clear blue sky?	Mar 15 13:31
MinceR	i don't think i know what you mean	Mar 15 13:32
XRevan86	MinceR: It's a Pink Floyd quote. I mean that brave new world is coming.	Mar 15 13:32
MinceR	Huxley's?	Mar 15 13:33
XRevan86	MinceR: No, not that precise one.	Mar 15 13:33
MinceR	we're on the treshold of a new dark age	Mar 15 13:35
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5763453	Mar 15 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #ProDiseaser		Mar 15 13:52
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schestowitz	"I don't need an anti-virus, I use GNU/Linux. Microsoft and Apple are virii themselves. Dense population city dwelling is also the problem as to why people get diseases (ie: Babylon)"	Mar 15 13:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765269	Mar 15 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Have all the 'moderate' 'rebels' defected to IS yet? http://www.christiantoday.com/article/us.syria.strategy.in.peril.with.collapse.of.cia.backed.rebel.group/49354.htm http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/05/us-mideast-crisis-syria-hazzm-idUSKBN0M10GV20150305		Mar 15 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.christiantoday.com \| US Syria strategy in peril with collapse of CIA-backed rebel group \| Christian News on Christian Today [ http://ur1.ca/jx0ps ]		Mar 15 13:52
schestowitz	":D"	Mar 15 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.reuters.com \| U.S. Syria strategy falters with collapse of rebel group \| Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/jx0pt ]		Mar 15 13:52
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5764765	Mar 15 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Highlighting to #drone operators who they kill (refuting #pentagon #propaganda that calls kids "Al Qaeda") helps halt counterproductive war		Mar 15 13:53
schestowitz	"Or accelerate shift to autonomous drones.."	Mar 15 13:53
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765142	Mar 15 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Imagine the headline "Obama Alive, Sick With Flu Despite Death Rumors" and then open this http://www.ibtimes.com/vladimir-putin-alive-sick-flu-despite-death-rumors-cia-source-tells-gawker-1847248		Mar 15 13:53
schestowitz	"I read this week in a silly forum that Putin nuked Kiev and all the Russian embassies were closing. Why would Russia nuke Kiev? That's like killing mosquitoes with cannons, not to mention a nice radiation hotspot near Moscow."	Mar 15 13:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.ibtimes.com \| Vladimir Putin Alive, Sick With Flu Despite Death Rumors, CIA Source Tells Gawker [ http://ur1.ca/jx0pv ]		Mar 15 13:53
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765226	Mar 15 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "a ‘dark alliance’ between the CIA, Nicaraguan rebels and cocaine traffickers." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2982055/CIA-scandal-got-lost-amid-obsession-Monica-Lewinsky.html good film		Mar 15 14:31
schestowitz	"gonna watch so..."	Mar 15 14:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.dailymail.co.uk \| CIA scandal that got lost amid our obsession with Monica Lewinsky: Kill the Messenger is reminiscent of All The President's Men, writes BRIAN VINER \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jx0z0 ]		Mar 15 14:31
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5764523	Mar 15 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Editorial Board of #bostonglobe speaks for corporations http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/editorials/2015/03/09/nsa-should-respect-corporations-privacy/bBlH5u2tWUpfcYGDRISG1H/story.html because, hey, they're better than people, right?		Mar 15 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bostonglobe.com \| NSA should respect corporations’ privacy - Editorials - The Boston Globe [ http://ur1.ca/jx0z5 ]		Mar 15 14:32
schestowitz	"Think of the corporations, at least he US ones."	Mar 15 14:32
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5764760	Mar 15 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This article claims the protesters targeted PTSD, but it's made up BS that diverts sympathy to the killers http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/03/06/drone-warfare-veterans-ptsd		Mar 15 14:32
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schestowitz	"I had the idea that problems cannot be solved by criminalizing dissent. Time to sanction US officials?"	Mar 15 14:32
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5765256	Mar 15 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: CIA Papers Suggest Murder of Ecuador's Former President http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/CIA-Papers-Suggest-Murder-of-Ecuadors-Former-President-20150311-0034.html "freedom and democracy"?		Mar 15 14:33
schestowitz	"hahahah"	Mar 15 14:33
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DaemonFC	http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/15/uk-first-poo-bio-bus-bristol-regular-service	Mar 15 14:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| UK's first 'poo bus' goes into regular service \| UK news \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jx13y ]		Mar 15 14:59
DaemonFC	"I see the number two is late again."	Mar 15 14:59
DaemonFC	"I hope it doesn't have to suddenly stop or it might leave skid marks."	Mar 15 14:59
MinceR	:>	Mar 15 15:06
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=TxZTS2XWRA0TSX	Mar 15 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: "They already control Tehran!" said Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) of the Iranian regime. [ http://ur1.ca/jx19y ]		Mar 15 15:34
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Mar 15 15:35
DaemonFC	http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/03/15/3633912/tom-cotton-alarmed-capital-iran-controlled-iran/	Mar 15 15:35
DaemonFC	"They already control Tehran!" said Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) of the Iranian regime.	Mar 15 15:35
DaemonFC	"Schieffer went on to ask Cotton whether he had any regrets at all about the letter. So he didn't clarify with Cotton what he meant by his comment that Iran has 'control' of its own capital."	Mar 15 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thinkprogress.org \| Tom Cotton Alarmed That The Capital Of Iran Is Controlled By Iran \| ThinkProgress [ http://ur1.ca/jx1a0 ]		Mar 15 15:35
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msb_	cubexyz: I'm watching Three	Mar 15 17:09
msb_	Days of the Condor (1975) and there's an old DEC computer in it -- I think a PDP-8. Two DECtapes.	Mar 15 17:10
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MinceR	https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8460256768/hB06A2542/	Mar 15 18:35
XRevan86	MinceR: Seems legit.	Mar 15 18:37
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/modalthetortois/status/577227051070926849	Mar 15 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@modalthetortois: “@paulhindes: @CharJanis RT @schestowitz: Looking Up Symptoms Online? These Companies Are Tracking You http://t.co/gA3JAz0aYt bad, so bad.		Mar 15 20:52
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chinahand/status/577215753914445824	Mar 15 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chinahand: @schestowitz @Thomas_Drake1 Don't know if there's a meaningful Kasperskey-Russia-Snowden link but I'm surprised it hasn't been asserted yet		Mar 15 20:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/chinahand/status/577215753914445824?cn=cmVwbHk%3D	Mar 15 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@chinahand: @schestowitz @Thomas_Drake1 Don't know if there's a meaningful Kasperskey-Russia-Snowden link but I'm surprised it hasn't been asserted yet		Mar 15 21:09
MinceR	gn	Mar 15 21:31
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cubexyz	msb_, quite right, it's a PDP-8/E	Mar 15 23:17
cubexyz	the most common PDP-8	Mar 15 23:18
msb_	cubexyz: Thanks!	Mar 15 23:21
msb_	Three Days of the Condor is a great movie!	Mar 15 23:25
msb_	At one point a C	Mar 15 23:26
cubexyz	I did a little bit of work with OS/8	Mar 15 23:26
cubexyz	also dabbled with DECSYS-7	Mar 15 23:26
msb_	At one point a CIA guy says it's ridiculous to think the US would invade the Middle East.	Mar 15 23:26
cubexyz	does Iraq count? :)	Mar 15 23:27
msb_	Maybe it was in 1975, but the US did it in 1990.	Mar 15 23:27
msb_	And again in 2001.	Mar 15 23:28
cubexyz	did you know Saddam banned mobile phones?	Mar 15 23:29
cubexyz	punishment could be death	Mar 15 23:29
msb_	Why?	Mar 15 23:29
cubexyz	no idea	Mar 15 23:29
msb_	The US murdered several million Iraquis in various attacks.	Mar 15 23:30
msb_	They never did anything to us.	Mar 15 23:30
msb_	The US sent its ambassador to Saddam and asked him to help stop Kuwait from pumping so much oil, which was lowering the price and costing Texas money.	Mar 15 23:33
msb_	So he did -- stopped Kuwait from slant-drilling under the boarder and stealing and selling Iraqui oil.	Mar 15 23:34
cubexyz	sounds like a good thing	Mar 15 23:34
msb_	The US responded by attacking Iraq and murdering millions.	Mar 15 23:34
cubexyz	didn't Saddam invade Kuwait though?	Mar 15 23:35
msb_	Yes, upon the secret request of US President GHW Bush.	Mar 15 23:36
msb_	The US govt is run by psychopaths.	Mar 15 23:37
cubexyz	at least the electric car seems to be gaining ground	Mar 15 23:38
cubexyz	so maybe in the future there won't be these battles over oil	Mar 15 23:38
msb_	Murder for profit is their primary principle of operation.	Mar 15 23:38
msb_	But the weapons companies will still want their huge profits.	Mar 15 23:39
msb_	so they will find something else to make war over.	Mar 15 23:39
msb_	It really is that simple.	Mar 15 23:40
msb_	They can make billions of dollars by murdering millions of innocent people.	Mar 15 23:40
msb_	And they do it. Because they are psychopaths, totally lacking in empathy.	Mar 15 23:41
cubexyz	want a good laugh? There's a video with Bill Gates explaining "how to fix Capitalism"	Mar 15 23:41
cubexyz	it got big negative feedback	Mar 15 23:42
msb_	Step one: get rid of Bill Gates.	Mar 15 23:42
cubexyz	no argument there	Mar 15 23:42
msb_	That is humanity's problem. Psychopaths have gradually learned to organize together, and are enriching themselves by destroying people and the planet.	Mar 15 23:44
msb_	The only way we can survive is to learn about psychopaths and what they do, learn to recognize them and get them out of power, and -- most difficult -- learn to recognize the psychopath behaviors and beliefs that have become embedded in our culture and economics:	Mar 15 23:47
msb_	The vindictive sky-god of the JCI religions. Unregulated competition in economics.	Mar 15 23:48
msb_	Patriotism -- the idea that "our" people are superior to all others and we have the right to rob and murder them.	Mar 15 23:49
msb_	Male supremacy.	Mar 15 23:50
msb_	Genital mutilation.	Mar 15 23:50
msb_	All these social principles program normal people into becoming psychopaths.	Mar 15 23:51
msb_	Programming not to think.	Mar 15 23:52
msb_	Banning of psychedelics and encouragement to use alcohol.	Mar 15 23:52
msb_	Assigning ranks to people with the higher ones given the ability to control and exploit those below them.	Mar 15 23:53
msb_	Psychopaths have learned how to get themselves into the highest ranks of the domination/control pyramid.	Mar 15 23:54
msb_	Acceptance of wildly disparate wealth distribution.	Mar 15 23:56
msb_	Belief that that is morally right.	Mar 15 23:56
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msb_	Unceasing corporate broadcasting of lies that serve the ruling psychopaths.	Mar 15 23:57
msb_	People would be able to resist and overcome any one of these things, or even a few of them.	Mar 15 23:58
msb_	But all of them together have turned people into robot-zombies -- mere consumers and cannon-fodder.	Mar 15 23:59
msb_	Unless people can wake up and become aware of the psychopaths and their cultural/economic infiltration/permeation, we will be doomed.	Mar 16 00:01
msb_	Even science has been distorted. People who expose the injury caused by many vaccines, and by GMO food (poisoned with glyphosate and Bt toxin), and the suppression of the efficacy of Vitamin	Mar 16 00:06
msb_	Even science has been distorted. People who expose the injury caused by many vaccines, and by GMO food (poisoned with glyphosate and Bt toxin), and the suppression of the efficacy of Vitamin C, and the obvious demolition of the WTC by explosives.	Mar 16 00:07
msb_	Such people are smeared as "conspiracy theorists" instead of the truth-tellers that they are.	Mar 16 00:08
msb_	I just found out today that dandelion root is another apoptosis promoter, and so a universal anticancer substance, like the others listed here: http://cosmicpenguin.com/cancer/	Mar 16 00:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| Cancer -- New Natural Remedies!		Mar 16 00:11
msb_	Oh Wow! That's how Cannabis cures cancer also! Google-advanced for CBD apoptosis.	Mar 16 00:16
msb_	Cannabidiol induces apoptosis in glioma, breast cancer, leukemia, pancreatic tumors, prostate and colon cancer...!	Mar 16 00:18
msb_	We now know how to remedy virtually all cancers and all viral infections, using substances that are harmless to normal cells and tissues.	Mar 16 00:21
msb_	And these remedial substances don't even need genetic engineering or any other kind of high tech.	Mar 16 00:24
msb_	Except for manufacturing large amounts of Vitamin	Mar 16 00:25
msb_	Except for manufacturing large amounts of Vitamin C: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascorbic_acid#Industrial_preparation	Mar 16 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org \| Ascorbic acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jx3ij ]		Mar 16 00:25
msb_	Which is still so cheap you can buy it for $10 a pound.	Mar 16 00:26
msb_	All the other substances just grow in the ground.	Mar 16 00:26
cubexyz	just eat lots of oranges	Mar 16 00:34
cubexyz	then you get fibre and vitamin C	Mar 16 00:34
cubexyz	OS/8 could be considered the grandfather of CP/M	Mar 16 00:42
cubexyz	DEC might have ending up becoming the most open company of all time	Mar 16 00:49
cubexyz	we have the engineering drawings for most of the PDP series	Mar 16 00:50
cubexyz	and the source code for most of the DEC operating systems	Mar 16 00:50
cubexyz	I was surprised at how small the PDP-11/05 was	Mar 16 00:52
cubexyz	not much bigger than an IBM AT	Mar 16 00:52
msb_	cubexyz: Oranges are yummy, but they contain only 50 to 80mg of Vitamin C. Most mammals produce up to 70 grams of C per 150lb of body weight if they have a serious viral infection.	Mar 16 00:53
cubexyz	I remember one guy saying almost everyone was deficient in iron	Mar 16 00:54
cubexyz	but those multi-vitamin pills with iron tasted gross	Mar 16 00:55
msb_	cubexyz: People need that much to fight off a a serious viral infection too, but that would require eating 1,000 oranges per day.	Mar 16 00:55
cubexyz	msb_, what if you're not infected with a virus? How much vitamin C do you need then?	Mar 16 00:55
msb_	A few oranges a day is only enough to prevent scurvy.	Mar 16 00:55
cubexyz	I think the daily recommended intake for vitamin C is 65 to 90 mg per day	Mar 16 00:56
cubexyz	I'm no expert though	Mar 16 00:57
msb_	cubexyz: 5 to 10 grams/day is good. A rounded teaspoon of ascorbic acid powder in a cup of water with a saccharin tablet once or twice a day will do it nicely, and tastes good.	Mar 16 00:57
msb_	Rinse your mouth afterward with a little baking soda or Mg	Mar 16 00:58
msb_	Rinse your mouth afterward with a little baking soda (don't swallow) or MgCO3 in water (good to swallow) so the Vit C doesn't etch your teeth.	Mar 16 00:59
cubexyz	wow, 10 grams seems like a lot	Mar 16 00:59
msb_	The RDA is designed to prevent people from knowing about the normal amounts of C in mammals, and to maintain the profits of Big Pharma for vaccines and flu symptom reliever drugs.	Mar 16 01:00
msb_	cubexyz: No. The govt is lying to us.	Mar 16 01:00
msb_	Healthy mammals of human body weight produce 4 to 10 grams of C per day. They need it, and so do we.	Mar 16 01:01
msb_	http://www.whale.to/a/stone1979b.html	Mar 16 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.whale.to \| HOMO SAPIENS ASCORBICUS		Mar 16 01:03
cubexyz	yes, I see an adult goat produces 13 grams per day	Mar 16 01:04
msb_	cubexyz: If you believe the govt and Big Pharma, you will end up being a lot less healthy than a goat.	Mar 16 01:04
cubexyz	I don't trust Big Pharma at all :)	Mar 16 01:06
cubexyz	Johnson & Johnson sold pills that did nothing	Mar 16 01:06
msb_	Vit. C was used to easily cure polio in the late 1940s.	Mar 16 01:07
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/codex/4-Origin_Of_Vitamin_C_Treatment_For_Polio-Klenner.html	Mar 16 01:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com \| 4 - Origin Of Vitamin C Treatment For Polio - Klenner [ http://ur1.ca/jkkzs ]		Mar 16 01:07
msb_	But the information was suppressed and we were given the Salk and Sabin vaccines, both of which contained the SV-40 cancer virus.	Mar 16 01:08
cubexyz	no one can really suppress information these days	Mar 16 01:08
cubexyz	but back in the 1940s I bet they could	Mar 16 01:09
msb_	They still can unless knowledgeable people make a strong effort to spread the info widely.	Mar 16 01:09
msb_	Otherwise the psychopaths simply overwhelm the truth by sheer volume of lies.	Mar 16 01:10
msb_	All of the TV, radio, newspaper, and magazine news lies about these things. And that's where most people get their information and world-view.	Mar 16 01:11
cubexyz	yes the "news" on tv is just a business for profit	Mar 16 01:14
cubexyz	it's not good	Mar 16 01:14
msb_	You and I are citizens of Cyberspace, but most people are not.	Mar 16 01:14
msb_	https://projects.eff.org/~barlow/Declaration-Final.html	Mar 16 01:15
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msb_	We should constantly tell people about news sites like these: http://globalresearch.ca/ http://journal-neo.org/	Mar 16 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalresearch.ca \| Global Research		Mar 16 01:18
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msb_	cubexyz: It's just a guess, but I think the 9/11 and subsequent false-flag attacks were done as an excuse for fascist militarization of the world, to _fight against_ humanity's increased communication ability via the Net.	Mar 16 01:42
msb_	That's why the organized psychopaths started their War of Terror in the new Millennium.	Mar 16 01:43
msb_	We're told to accept censorship and surveillance because: "Don't you know there's a war on?"	Mar 16 01:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/ZKW4XM5HVU	Mar 16 01:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/ZeLzIAS90A	Mar 16 01:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/u2w1DvBEOF	Mar 16 01:51
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cubexyz	http://www.nationofchange.org/bill-gates-dodges-questions-why-he-owns-500000-shares-monsanto-1360684583	Mar 16 02:55
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cubexyz	the sad truth:	Mar 16 02:58
cubexyz	you correctly point out that computers are full of toxic substances, and yet do not admonish a man more responsible than most for their proliferation across the globe. Don't forget that the mining and manufacturing processes for computer chips and other components leave and spread socio-enviro-political debris. Talk about poisoning the environment.	Mar 16 02:58
cubexyz	That's the reason why I advocate reuse and repair of old computers	Mar 16 02:59
cubexyz	Our society is unbelieveably wasteful	Mar 16 03:01
cubexyz	this book is small enough... may as well share it:	Mar 16 03:03
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/the-waste-makers-vance-packard.pdf	Mar 16 03:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calligra 2.9.1 Released https://t.co/n1a1c8Hpai	Mar 16 04:02
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Thoughts on using Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition	Mar 16 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	17.1 http://t.co/t22pjyh1L3	Mar 16 04:02
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schestowitz	> It's a very negative depiction of open source in mainstream	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	> entertainment, akin to this one:	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	>	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/20/disney_sitcom_open_source_insecure/	Mar 16 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk \| Disney sitcom says open source is insecure • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/9zrgv ]		Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	Ah, yes, I didn't read into it. To be fair, the term comes from intel'	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	>>> http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2015/03/13/state-dept-shuts-down-parts-of-unclassified-computer-network	Mar 16 06:23
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schestowitz	>>> >>	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	>>> >> -	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	>>> >>	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	>>> >> http://abcnews.go.com/US/state-dept-shuts-email-cyber-attack/story?id=29624866	Mar 16 06:23
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schestowitz	>>> >>	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	>>> >> still not running... aren't these the ones that have been up and down	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	>>> >> for ages?	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	>> >	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	>> > Any reports about prior issues?	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	> Yes, as far as I recall those are the same ones that have been	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	> constantly cracked and/or down for several months (or years).	Mar 16 06:23
schestowitz	Will help pass the new 'cyber' laws...	Mar 16 06:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle adds secure-ish boot support to its	Mar 16 06:40
TweetTuxMachines	Linux distro http://t.co/tx9RtZlrrE	Mar 16 06:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Oracle adds secure-ish boot support to its	Mar 16 06:40
TweetTuxMachines	Linux distro http://t.co/lKTUypscVb	Mar 16 06:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First-person Puzzler Parallax - Game No. 1000	Mar 16 06:40
TweetTuxMachines	On Steam For Linux https://t.co/OBRKXE5c8B	Mar 16 06:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bundle Stars 'Crimson Bundle' Has 5 Linux Games	Mar 16 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	For Cheap https://t.co/DpUbtn6oAt	Mar 16 06:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Mar 16 06:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines March 13 Update for Manjaro Linux 0.8.12 Brings	Mar 16 06:44
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TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zfpndjZkyK (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 06:44
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msb_	The entire episode of the anti-OpenSource Disney show can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHC07tqCSqg	Mar 16 07:45
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msb_	Downloaded with youtube-dl, the offensive scene begins at about 620seconds into the show. The open-source virus threatens to wreck all the computers in Tokyo, and then spread to the whole world.	Mar 16 07:48
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XRevan86	What's the point of making an open-source virus?	Mar 16 07:50
XRevan86	"Guys, you all can contribute to my open-source virus!"	Mar 16 07:50
cubexyz	maybe they uploaded the virus using a 3d unix gui :)	Mar 16 07:51
cubexyz	you can't expect these brainless shows to get anything right	Mar 16 07:51
msb_	The virus is said to be "hidden" in "open-source code".	Mar 16 07:52
XRevan86	msb_: As a regular expression? :D	Mar 16 07:53
XRevan86	reminds me of	Mar 16 07:53
XRevan86	echo "test... test... test..." \| perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=]=>%-{<-\|}<&\|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see'	Mar 16 07:53
XRevan86	(rm -rf /)	Mar 16 07:53
msb_	Maybe it was some early work of Lennart Poettering.	Mar 16 07:54
cubexyz	I think they confused freely available with open source	Mar 16 07:56
cubexyz	and freely available software might have malware	Mar 16 07:56
msb_	The show was aired Aug 17 2012, a 90-minute special.	Mar 16 07:57
cubexyz	Disney even supports Panda3d, which is open source	Mar 16 07:58
cubexyz	it's just badly written dialogue	Mar 16 07:58
msb_	Whoever wrote that dialog got the idea from some propaganda they heard, which no doubt originated from Microsoft.	Mar 16 07:59
cubexyz	possibly	Mar 16 08:00
msb_	MS published plenty of explicitly anti open-source propaganda.	Mar 16 08:00
cubexyz	I can't think of anything very recent	Mar 16 08:00
msb_	http://cosmicpenguin.com/linux/MICROSOFTS_WAR_AGAINST_LINUX.html	Mar 16 08:02
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XRevan86	cubexyz: They're in Embrace stage, so what's the point of propaganda?	Mar 16 08:04
XRevan86	now	Mar 16 08:04
msb_	XRevan86: Are you hearing anything definite about Putin's health? Is there anyone else with the courage to resist the American Fascist Empire?	Mar 16 08:05
cubexyz	XRevan86, what era? There was the Get the Facts campaign at Best Buy	Mar 16 08:05
cubexyz	that was definitely FUD	Mar 16 08:05
XRevan86	cubexyz: 2014-2015	Mar 16 08:05
XRevan86	Microsoft ♥ Linux era.	Mar 16 08:05
cubexyz	oh that	Mar 16 08:06
XRevan86	msb_: No, I don't.	Mar 16 08:06
XRevan86	msb_: I don't care either %).	Mar 16 08:06
cubexyz	XRevan86, not sure what the deal is with M$ these days	Mar 16 08:07
msb_	You'll care if the H-bombs start to fall.	Mar 16 08:07
cubexyz	but embrace, extend, extinguish always seems apt	Mar 16 08:07
XRevan86	msb_: meh	Mar 16 08:08
cubexyz	I guess M$ has figured out many ways to make $$$ from Linux so why not say they 'love' it	Mar 16 08:08
cubexyz	Amazon, Google, Openstack all run Linux servers	Mar 16 08:09
XRevan86	cubexyz: They'd make more money by having Linux in /dev/null.	Mar 16 08:11
XRevan86	since they've failed to put Linux into /dev/null, they start to do something else.	Mar 16 08:11
cubexyz	I'd say the Genie is out of the bottle :)	Mar 16 08:11
cubexyz	one Doomsday Scenario was M$ controlling the internet itself	Mar 16 08:13
cubexyz	I'm sure they tried :)	Mar 16 08:13
msb_	cubexyz: The guy who died young a few months after he tried to move some of the root DNS servers out of the US...	Mar 16 08:17
cubexyz	Postel	Mar 16 08:18
msb_	Jon Postel	Mar 16 08:19
cubexyz	Stallman has health problems too	Mar 16 08:19
cubexyz	the result no doubt of an overly sendentary lifestyle	Mar 16 08:21
msb_	It's just a "conspiracy theory" that the ruling psychopaths who murder millions would attack the people who dare to oppose them.	Mar 16 08:21
cubexyz	that's why I'm trying to exercise more :)	Mar 16 08:21
cubexyz	I don't doubt that the pressure he was under accelerated his demise	Mar 16 08:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How this Australian university turned IT	Mar 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	management around with Red Hat	Mar 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sIfxy7msoc (www.futuregov.asia)	Mar 16 08:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.futuregov.asia \| How this Australian university turned IT management around with Red Hat \| 2015-03-11 \| FutureGov		Mar 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines March 13 Update for Manjaro Linux 0.8.12 Brings	Mar 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	the Xfce 4.12 Desktop Environment	Mar 16 08:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/x8qDpXkguA (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 08:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| March 13 Update for Manjaro Linux 0.8.12 Brings the Xfce 4.12 Desktop Environment \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines German Greens ask Foreign Affairs to amend way	Mar 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/m3uUOrFb6x (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 08:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| German Greens ask Foreign Affairs to amend way \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview with Abbigail Ward	Mar 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/SxnAV97cJG (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 08:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Interview with Abbigail Ward \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Krita 2.9.1 Released http://t.co/9IJMKXkDr1	Mar 16 08:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VMware wants amicable end to 'meritless'	Mar 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-lifting lawsuit http://t.co/76IsqRvENU	Mar 16 08:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 08:30
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cubexyz	chromebooks finally have carved out a good chunk of the market	Mar 16 08:42
cubexyz	where Be, Amiga and IBM failed, Google has succeeded	Mar 16 08:43
cubexyz	there's quite a list of OEMs making Chromebooks now: Samsung, ASUS, Toshiba, Acer, Lenovo, Dell and HP	Mar 16 08:48
msb_	cubexyz: According to wikipedia, chromebooks are thin clients that are designed to operate connected to the Net, and use apps from a google cloud which the user pays for. Is that right?	Mar 16 08:53
cubexyz	msb_, well that's true out of the box but you can put a linux distro on it if you want	Mar 16 08:53
cubexyz	msb_, I don't know about any extra fees for the google cloud, I'll have to check that	Mar 16 08:54
msb_	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrome_Web_Store	Mar 16 08:56
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cubexyz	I think the deal is 15 gigs for free, and you can get 100 gigs for $1.99 per month	Mar 16 08:57
cubexyz	my main reason for liking chromebooks was the FOSS firmware	Mar 16 08:58
msb_	cubexyz: that's cloud space for storing your data?	Mar 16 08:58
cubexyz	msb_, yes	Mar 16 08:58
msb_	How much disk or SSD do they have?	Mar 16 08:59
cubexyz	usually 16 gigs	Mar 16 08:59
msb_	wowie	Mar 16 08:59
msb_	looks like they're mainly designed to be an ongoing source of profit for Google	Mar 16 09:00
msb_	I guess you can load Linux on it and connect it to an external disk drive via USB	Mar 16 09:01
cubexyz	you can get 256GB ssd's for it	Mar 16 09:02
cubexyz	the other obvious advantage is no microsoft tax	Mar 16 09:07
msb_	what price for the 256GB ssd's ?	Mar 16 09:10
cubexyz	Microsoft forced Hitachi to hide the BeOS partition on the Hitachi Flora Prius (late 1990s), so Chromebooks are huge progress	Mar 16 09:10
cubexyz	around $115, maybe less in the US	Mar 16 09:11
msb_	Computers should be sold with bios that simply does not permit mswindows to be loaded. That would fix the tax problem.	Mar 16 09:12
cubexyz	msb_, there is such a BIOS, Lemote's PMON	Mar 16 09:12
cubexyz	the problem is no one sells Lemote in North America	Mar 16 09:13
msb_	Gee I wonder why	Mar 16 09:13
msb_	cubexyz: did you watch _Antitrust_ ?	Mar 16 09:15
cubexyz	not yet	Mar 16 09:15
cubexyz	there's this site, but everyone seems to be low on stock:	Mar 16 09:18
cubexyz	http://www.freedomincluded.com/	Mar 16 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freedomincluded.com \| Freedom Included Inc - Free Software Friendly Hardware		Mar 16 09:19
XRevan86	Who knows what seems to be the problem in Brazil?	Mar 16 09:54
XRevan86	(not the movie)	Mar 16 09:54
cubexyz	Stallman had his laptop stolen in Argentina back in 2012	Mar 16 10:09
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DaemonFC	http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/people-who-use-firefox-or-chrome-are-better-employees/387781/?utm_source=SFFB	Mar 16 10:26
DaemonFC	A new study shows why you may want to fill out job applications using Chrome or Firefox.	Mar 16 10:26
DaemonFC	Users of Internet Explorer and Safari were found to be less productive and more likely to quit their jobs sooner.	Mar 16 10:26
DaemonFC	Said the article,	Mar 16 10:26
DaemonFC	"Cornerstone OnDemand, a company that sells software that helps employers recruit and retain workers, analyzed data on about 50,000 people who took its 45-minute online job assessment (which is like a thorough personality test) and then were successfully hired at a firm using its software. These candidates ended up working customer-service and sales jobs for companies in industries such as telecommunications, retail, and hospitality.	Mar 16 10:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com \| People Who Use Firefox or Chrome Are Better Employees — The Atlantic [ http://ur1.ca/jx64k ]		Mar 16 10:26
DaemonFC	Cornerstone's researchers found that people who took the test on a non-default browser, such as Firefox or Chrome, ended up staying at their jobs about 15 percent longer than those who stuck with Safari or Internet Explorer. They performed better on the job as well. (These statistics were roughly the same for both Mac and PC users.)"	Mar 16 10:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@rmsthebot @tuxmachines Please say GNU/Linux or GNU+Linux	Mar 16 10:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Xfce 0.9.0 Promises to Bring the	Mar 16 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	Best Xfce 4.12 Experience Possible	Mar 16 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/aUNchABbHV (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Manjaro Linux Xfce 0.9.0 Promises to Bring the Best Xfce 4.12 Experience Possible \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM teams with BlackBerry and Samsung to offer	Mar 16 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	governments a secure Android tablet	Mar 16 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qfGCg2qnYh (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 10:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| IBM teams with BlackBerry and Samsung to offer governments a secure Android tablet \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 10:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Themes Of The Day http://t.co/f10HxUf0Ll	Mar 16 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 10:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever to	Mar 16 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	Just Do Stuff http://t.co/MdBIOWsSv3	Mar 16 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 10:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Feds look to developers to improve big data,	Mar 16 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	open source projects http://t.co/ZLiuaaXIDT	Mar 16 10:55
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 10:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chakra 2015.03 Screenshot Tour	Mar 16 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/dhYsRGcP85 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 12:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Open Source Software Fuels a Revolution in Data	Mar 16 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	Science http://t.co/y11jM8s4Tl	Mar 16 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 12:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Dell's Ubuntu-powered M3800 Mobile	Mar 16 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	Workstation is a desktop destroyer	Mar 16 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TGUxCHoGrk (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 12:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Google rolls out Android 5.1: Five new features	Mar 16 13:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/TU9zvFYGkV	Mar 16 13:24
TweetTuxMachines	(timesofindia.indiatimes.com)	Mar 16 13:24
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx77d	Mar 16 13:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Linux 4.0-rc4 http://t.co/zGgwzR71gx (lwn.net)	Mar 16 13:24
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/9296XkEMj3 (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 13:24
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx77f	Mar 16 13:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC4 with ARM Changes and Updated Drivers - Softpedia		Mar 16 13:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Krita 2.9.1 Released https://t.co/sNljWNgfQo	Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	(krita.org)	Mar 16 13:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org \| Krita 2.9.1 Released \| Krita		Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ownCloud Client 1.8 Will Bring HIDPI, Qt 5.4,	Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	and Desktop Sharing Support	Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Eo7oHLmjPE (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx79i	Mar 16 13:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #Qomp Simple & Easy Music Player Reaches	Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	Version 0.8 http://t.co/EoP3KXXT4v	Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxarena.com)	Mar 16 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxarena.com \| Qomp Simple & Easy Music Player Reaches Version 0.8 \| TuxArena		Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx79j	Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines apt install dpl-candidate: Neil McGovern	Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/zjhFdGD2Zk (bits.debian.org)	Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	"involved with Debian for over 10 years now."	Mar 16 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx79k	Mar 16 13:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Interview with Abbigail Ward	Mar 16 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/n0fmCmi1fK (krita.org)	Mar 16 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7ao	Mar 16 13:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines VMware wants amicable end to 'meritless'	Mar 16 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-lifting lawsuit http://t.co/3bIzedjY2b	Mar 16 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.theregister.co.uk)	Mar 16 13:39
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TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7ap	Mar 16 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Robolinux 7.8.3 Released with Five Powerful	Mar 16 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	Privacy and Security Applications	Mar 16 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Tyos50695O (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 13:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Manjaro Linux Xfce 0.9.0 Promises to Bring the	Mar 16 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	Best Xfce 4.12 Experience Possible	Mar 16 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vslzFH2jj7 (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 16 13:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines IBM teams with BlackBerry and Samsung to offer	Mar 16 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	governments a secure Android tablet	Mar 16 13:45
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/oxzYqoHrnF (www.infoworld.com)	Mar 16 13:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoworld.com \| IBM teams with BlackBerry and Samsung to offer governments a secure Android tablet \| InfoWorld		Mar 16 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever to	Mar 16 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Just Do Stuff http://t.co/tFS7s4Q5qm	Mar 16 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 16 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7c4	Mar 16 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever to Just Do Stuff \| Linux.com		Mar 16 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Review: Dell's Ubuntu-powered M3800 Mobile	Mar 16 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	Workstation is a desktop destroyer	Mar 16 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/OogbPcKgXs (www.networkworld.com)	Mar 16 13:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Building a pre-release Linux testbed with	Mar 16 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	openSuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, and more	Mar 16 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nfUD3EFi2J (www.zdnet.com)	Mar 16 13:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7d1	Mar 16 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Building a pre-release Linux testbed with openSuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, and more \| ZDNet		Mar 16 13:49
*TweetTuxMachines @StephDAVOS favourited 'Raspberry Pi 2 Makes It Easier Than Ever...'		Mar 16 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Meet Blueberry, Linux Mint’s New Bluetooth	Mar 16 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	Setup Tool http://t.co/iGRCNBomt0	Mar 16 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Mar 16 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Meet Blueberry, Linux Mint's New Bluetooth Setup Tool - OMG! Ubuntu!		Mar 16 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7jf	Mar 16 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Building a pre-release Linux testbed with	Mar 16 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	openSuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu, and more	Mar 16 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/6CTYXVUmJB (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 14:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7jg	Mar 16 14:19
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MinceR	http://media.tumblr.com/22e73dcca91af3915feb2b609a4fb891/tumblr_inline_nlb17igDw31t63ajm.jpg	Mar 16 14:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Preview of GNOME usability results	Mar 16 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZYAqnKjZJS (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7u7	Mar 16 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Preview of GNOME usability results \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha LXDE Screenshot Tour	Mar 16 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/LwlTKoQKL9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7u8	Mar 16 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 22 Alpha LXDE Screenshot Tour \| Tux Machines		Mar 16 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet Default Wallpaper	Mar 16 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	Revealed http://t.co/ovxauGsiXH	Mar 16 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	(www.webupd8.org)	Mar 16 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org \| Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet Default Wallpaper Revealed ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog		Mar 16 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx7ua	Mar 16 15:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Macaw-Movies is a movie collection manager. It	Mar 16 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	is now about to be in the KDE Family!"	Mar 16 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ci3WN3jhHb	Mar 16 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	(macawmovies.wordpress.com)	Mar 16 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx8cr	Mar 16 16:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 9 Quirky Linux Commands You Need to Know (And	Mar 16 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	Will Love)	Mar 16 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/S1FFeZMyN2 (www.makeuseof.com)	Mar 16 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx8cs	Mar 16 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com \| 9 Quirky Linux Commands You Need to Know (And Will Love)		Mar 16 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines We need open data to become the new open source	Mar 16 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0nh6mtfc28 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 16:29
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx8ct	Mar 16 16:29
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines We need open data to become the new open source	Mar 16 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by http://t.co/0nh6mtfc28 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 16 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	@voidquest44	Mar 16 19:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jx932	Mar 16 19:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evince 3.14.2 Is an Important Bugfix Update for	Mar 17 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME 3.14 http://t.co/PDoJPKsrRX	Mar 17 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Evince 3.14.2 Is an Important Bugfix Update for GNOME 3.14 - Softpedia		Mar 17 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxai2	Mar 17 01:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Spec Ops: The Line Looks Like It's Coming To	Mar 17 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	Linux https://t.co/JlxVWqoZ1C	Mar 17 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Mar 17 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxali	Mar 17 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Spec Ops: The Line Looks Like It's Coming To Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Mar 17 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines OnlyOffice Another Free Office Suite for Linux	Mar 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	(Complete Selfhost Office Solution - OwnCloud	Mar 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	Compatible) http://t.co/5GcOfvbki2	Mar 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxalk	Mar 17 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OnlyOffice Another Free Office Suite for Linux (Complete Selfhost Office Solution - OwnCloud Compatible) \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Scientific Alpha	Mar 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/syg9peUIPX (echorand.me)	Mar 17 01:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-echorand.me \| Fedora 22 Scientific Alpha \| Programming and writing about it.		Mar 17 01:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 free Android apps that are worth checking	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	out http://t.co/oPUMcp5Cal	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techrepublic.com) using material design:	Mar 17 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com \| 10 free Android apps that are worth checking out - TechRepublic		Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/vlqgA2Q5sM (thenextweb.com)	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxaqz	Mar 17 02:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pre-Sequel Claptastic Voyage DLC for	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Also Launches in	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	Linux	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/a45qWGZLoG (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 02:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Pre-Sequel Claptastic Voyage DLC for Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Also Launches in Linux - Softpedia		Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Design Suite 22 Alpha	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/HVEWfT5UJj (blog.thefinalzone.net)	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	"Gimp (Gmic), Inkscape (support of making	Mar 17 02:34
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TweetTuxMachines	tables) and Blender (LuxRender)"	Mar 17 02:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/DOV5X3z7iX (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar2	Mar 17 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple Watch app development pales in comparison	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	to Android Wear http://t.co/0uJI9jeKAN	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar3	Mar 17 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Apple Watch app development pales in comparison to Android Wear \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny SBC runs Android and Linux on Snapdragon	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	410 http://t.co/cX7VyMgoo6	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 02:34
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxar4	Mar 17 02:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux	Mar 17 02:36
TweetTuxMachines	support http://t.co/GGfPNOZzJL	Mar 17 02:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 02:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxark	Mar 17 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux support \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 02:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora Flavours http://t.co/28P3bGU42s	Mar 17 02:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 02:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxarl	Mar 17 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora Flavours \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 02:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Check out what’s on Jon’s Android tablet	Mar 17 02:36
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/lteObp5Stk (www.technobuffalo.com)	Mar 17 02:36
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxarm	Mar 17 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technobuffalo.com \| Check out what's on Jon's Android tablet \| TechnoBuffalo		Mar 17 02:36
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/577719344295120896	Mar 17 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: It's not only #systemd 😉 ♺ @schestowitz The sad state of #sysadmin in the age of containers http://t.co/gJeEY7qlwD #GNU/#Linux #docker #NSA		Mar 17 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.vitavonni.de \| The sad state of sysadmin in the age of containers		Mar 17 02:38
schestowitz	rPath came from Red Hat	Mar 17 02:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Featured: Top 10 Best Games For Android – March	Mar 17 03:19
TweetTuxMachines	2015 Edition http://t.co/yZeHHftDGt	Mar 17 03:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidheadlines.com)	Mar 17 03:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidheadlines.com \| Featured: Top 10 Best Games For Android - March 2015 Edition \| Androidheadlines.com		Mar 17 03:19
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxax7	Mar 17 03:19
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling	Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	Challenges http://t.co/x4U1kmeCYk	Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxax8	Mar 17 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling Challenges \| Linux.com		Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling	Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	Challenges http://t.co/zQQp8ZEoXK	Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxax9	Mar 17 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ext4 Filesystem Improvements to Address Scaling Challenges \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Customer Service and Open Source Software: A	Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	Budding Relationship http://t.co/nQ9mYzXujP	Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxaxb	Mar 17 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Customer Service and Open Source Software: A Budding Relationship \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Strange Bedfellows and Linux Reviews	Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/AxcnUFkrmx (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 03:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxaxe	Mar 17 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Strange Bedfellows and Linux Reviews \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 03:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines LibreOffice 4.4.2 Release Candidate 1 Is Now	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	Available for Download http://t.co/dETYUukXoh	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb46	Mar 17 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice 4.4.2 Release Candidate 1 Is Now Available for Download \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/PTSqt1t31R (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb48	Mar 17 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1 and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 17/3/2015: Linux 4.0 RC4, Calligra and	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	Krita 2.9.1 Released http://t.co/K8Ozbu0Ui2	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb49	Mar 17 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 17/3/2015: Linux 4.0 RC4, Calligra and Krita 2.9.1 Released \| Techrights		Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines An open source software updating tool	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Pr7j79KeO5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb4a	Mar 17 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| An open source software updating tool \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/25g2op9aAD	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb4b	Mar 17 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/nbQCKE9rBc	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb4c	Mar 17 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 04:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop	Mar 17 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/jpNQQu5RU4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb6r	Mar 17 04:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released,	Mar 17 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	Here’s What’s New - Gallery	Mar 17 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/JLVmmr8pV7 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb6s	Mar 17 04:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released, Here’s What’s New - Gallery \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released,	Mar 17 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	Here’s What’s New - Gallery	Mar 17 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/rLlw8Cwb9Q (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb6t	Mar 17 04:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| ROSA Desktop Fresh R5 GNOME Silently Released, Here’s What’s New - Gallery - Softpedia		Mar 17 04:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop	Mar 17 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/V8ewCcUz2f (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8t	Mar 17 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Watch: MakuluLinux with the Unity Desktop - Softpedia		Mar 17 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1	Mar 17 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour	Mar 17 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/47HApQnRXq (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8u	Mar 17 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Evolve OS’ New Beta Brings Linux Kernel 3.19.1 and systemd 218 - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 17 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Red Hat 7.1 is here, CentOS 7.1 coming soon	Mar 17 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/MmX6MZtWAS (www.zdnet.com)	Mar 17 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8v	Mar 17 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| Red Hat 7.1 is here, CentOS 7.1 coming soon \| ZDNet		Mar 17 04:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines MIPS Creator CI20 v Raspberry Pi 2	Mar 17 04:26
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7jGcnbEN76 (www.linuxlinks.com)	Mar 17 04:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb8w	Mar 17 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com \| MIPS Creator CI20 v Raspberry Pi 2 - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site		Mar 17 04:26
*TweetTuxMachines @Sugar_Faye followed @tuxmachines		Mar 17 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Seamonkey review: Firefox’s lightweight	Mar 17 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	hyper-functional cousin http://t.co/Wr7K3wifNy	Mar 17 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxveda.com)	Mar 17 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxveda.com \| Seamonkey review: Firefox's lightweight hyper-functional cousin - Linux Veda		Mar 17 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb9a	Mar 17 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux	Mar 17 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	support http://t.co/7b5Qq1U87K	Mar 17 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Mar 17 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Freescale i.MX6 SoloX SoC gains embedded Linux support · LinuxGizmos.com		Mar 17 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxb9c	Mar 17 04:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Tiny SBC runs Android and Linux on Snapdragon	Mar 17 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	410 http://t.co/SSYBIkRiFr (linuxgizmos.com)	Mar 17 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbbf	Mar 17 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Tiny SBC runs Android and Linux on Snapdragon 410 · LinuxGizmos.com		Mar 17 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Apple Watch app development pales in comparison	Mar 17 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	to Android Wear http://t.co/lyJgJUW9gn	Mar 17 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.networkworld.com)	Mar 17 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Apple Watch app development pales in comparison to Android Wear		Mar 17 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbbg	Mar 17 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks	Mar 17 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/dxkMorQwMH (arstechnica.com)	Mar 17 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbbh	Mar 17 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| A look at Android 5.1: speed, security, tweaks \| Ars Technica		Mar 17 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Preview of GNOME usability results	Mar 17 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5E4JkUxc5p	Mar 17 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	(opensource-usability.blogspot.co.uk)	Mar 17 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource-usability.blogspot.co.uk \| Open Source Software & Usability: Preview of GNOME usability results		Mar 17 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbcj	Mar 17 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha LXDE Screenshot Tour	Mar 17 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/P7dT7yK0EA (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbck	Mar 17 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Fedora 22 Alpha LXDE Screenshot Tour - Softpedia		Mar 17 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 5 Best Android Phones [March, 2015]	Mar 17 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0T7XfYJAMT (www.gottabemobile.com)	Mar 17 04:42
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbcl	Mar 17 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gottabemobile.com \| 5 Best Android Phones [March, 2015]		Mar 17 04:42
schestowitz	https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5773885	Mar 17 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So-called Jihadi John: "MI5 had approached him... to work as an agent for them." -former MI5 agent http://anniemachon.ch/annie_machon/2015/02/jihadi-john-and-mi5.html		Mar 17 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> anniemachon.ch \| Jihadi John and MI5 - Using Our Intelligence [ http://ur1.ca/jxbdf ]		Mar 17 04:47
schestowitz	"Same old routine- same with the Boston bombers, the Lee Rigby killers etc. For some reason people generally seem unable to join the dots"	Mar 17 04:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME's Virtual Filesystem Updated for GNOME	Mar 17 04:55
TweetTuxMachines	3.16, Obsolete ObexFTP Code Removed	Mar 17 04:55
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KFitZbpwLg (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 04:55
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbf2	Mar 17 04:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| GNOME's Virtual Filesystem Updated for GNOME 3.16, Obsolete ObexFTP Code Removed - Softpedia		Mar 17 04:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb	Mar 17 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	Choice for Running Linux in the Cloud	Mar 17 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nqn5VNHakt (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 17 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbf4	Mar 17 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb Choice for Running Linux in the Cloud - Softpedia		Mar 17 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma	Mar 17 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	5.0 Desktop http://t.co/Wu15Ofgz8r	Mar 17 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.hecticgeek.com)	Mar 17 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hecticgeek.com \| KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma 5.0 Desktop		Mar 17 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbf6	Mar 17 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Impressions of Ubuntu MATE 14.10	Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/KXZ8GAzXDQ (distrowatch.com)	Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbg7	Mar 17 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com \| DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.		Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Review: Minimalist distro	Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	with superb performance http://t.co/UyiqxDBHF1	Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	(mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk)	Mar 17 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mylinuxexplore.blogspot.co.uk \| Linuxed - Exploring Linux distros: Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Review: Minimalist distro with superb performance		Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbg8	Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb	Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	Choice for Running Linux in the Cloud	Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/O7ZaJrAvv9 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbga	Mar 17 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb Choice for Running Linux in the Cloud \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines St. Paddy's Day Special: 7 Irish open source	Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	developers http://t.co/MHhLsETcU5	Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbgd	Mar 17 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| St. Paddy's Day Special: 7 Irish open source developers \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 05:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma	Mar 17 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	5.0 Desktop http://t.co/UEQiSCWcMh	Mar 17 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbge	Mar 17 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KaOS 2015.02 Review: Delivers a Pure KDE Plasma 5.0 Desktop \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines First Impressions of Ubuntu MATE 14.10	Mar 17 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/iReLKRe5Lt (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbgg	Mar 17 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| First Impressions of Ubuntu MATE 14.10 \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Review: Minimalist distro	Mar 17 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	with superb performance http://t.co/Iw7qy3VW4K	Mar 17 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 05:02
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxbgh	Mar 17 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Bodhi Linux 3.0.0 Review: Minimalist distro with superb performance \| Tux Machines		Mar 17 05:02
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Fedora 22 Alpha Cloud Edition Is a Superb...'		Mar 17 05:02
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5773804	Mar 17 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: "It is the secret scandal of capitalism that at no point has it been organised primarily around free labour" - David Graeber, Debt; The First 5000 Years #capitalism #labour #labor #debt #slavery #FreeMarkets		Mar 17 05:17
schestowitz	"Actually, it's just a bit more insidious than that. Because capitalism claims to be organized around free labor."	Mar 17 05:17
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schestowitz	MinceR: when you get the chance please consider sending irc logs for the 4 channels (please ;-))	Mar 17 08:19
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MinceR	geekings	Mar 17 10:43
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DaemonFC	http://qz.com/290183/in-2014-countries-are-still-paying-off-debt-from-world-war-one/	Mar 17 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com \| In 2014, countries are still paying off debt from World War One – Quartz [ http://ur1.ca/jxd8a ]		Mar 17 10:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Asian Penguins middle school Linux club	Mar 17 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	inspires community http://t.co/ARDT5lw6XG	Mar 17 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 17 11:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jxdff	Mar 17 11:13
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msb_	Highly recommended movies for anyone interested in computers and the future: Transcendent Man (2009) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117394/combined - a documentary about Ray Kurzweil and his idea that since technology builds on the previous levl	Mar 17 14:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| Transcendent Man (2009) [ http://ur1.ca/jxerx ]		Mar 17 14:15
msb_	Highly recommended movies for anyone interested in computers and the future: Transcendent Man (2009) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117394/combined - a documentary about Ray Kurzweil and his idea that since technology builds on the previous level of technology, it grows exponentially, and will lead to an AI or intelligence enhancement for people exceeding all known capabilities by around the year 2050. Kurzweil calls this The	Mar 17 14:17
msb_	Singularity.	Mar 17 14:17
msb_	Transcendence (2014) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2209764/combined - a fictional movie about the Singularity and possible reactions to it. I regard it as a documentary of a possible future.	Mar 17 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com \| Transcendence (2014/I) [ http://ur1.ca/jxet8 ]		Mar 17 14:20
msb_	I recommend watching the documentary first, and then the fictional treatment. Both may be found in the usual places.	Mar 17 14:22
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MalJayaram/status/577927457279332352	Mar 17 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MalJayaram: @schestowitz @MishiChoudhary @NewYorker Wrote my dissertation on #GNU, #copyleft & #Stallman in 1995. Unsure if I feel old or cutting edge.		Mar 17 16:23
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MishiChoudhary/status/577928522062282752	Mar 17 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MishiChoudhary: @MalJayaram u r avant-garde no doubt no matter the yr! Just be proud of your being one of the super cool kids @schestowitz @NewYorker		Mar 17 16:25
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/MalJayaram/status/577929200079769600	Mar 17 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MalJayaram: @MishiChoudhary @schestowitz @NewYorker You had me at "kids".		Mar 17 16:29
schestowitz	> Dear Mr. Schestowitz,	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	>	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	> thanky you very much once again for publishing. In this momment,	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	> just for your information, I pass everything to Mrs. Monica	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	> Macovei in European Parliament in Bruxelles.	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	> I am expecting meeting with her during April/May and opening	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	> investigation in case Lufthansa and Zeljko Topic & EPO.	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	> During my stay in Bruxelles maybe I will found one day to visit	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	> you in London/Manchester with fresh news.	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	Thanks for the context in the emails below, which I'll keep private. If you stop by in Manchester, let me know.	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	P.S.	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	If possible, I would ask you to activate all links (2-3) to web	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	sites in my today published response. Thank you...	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 16:56
schestowitz	I have turned explicit links into words with hypertext/anchor	Mar 17 17:04
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5773626	Mar 17 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The biggest privatisation in NHS history: why we had to blow the whistle http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/16/nhs-privatisation-biggest-history-staffordshire-cancer #nhs #uk		Mar 17 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| The biggest privatisation in NHS history: why we had to blow the whistle \| Kate Godfrey \| Comment is free \| The Guardian [ http://ur1.ca/jxfw2 ]		Mar 17 17:22
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 17:22
schestowitz	“no more than a blank cheque for whichever private firm is the most ruthlessly willing to cut services to shore up their own profits”	Mar 17 17:22
schestowitz	Someone got what privatizations are about.	Mar 17 17:22
schestowitz	"	Mar 17 17:22
schestowitz	"I had the idea P2P networks were for piracy, but it seems that when a corporation or the government does the same then everything is fine."	Mar 17 17:23
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5773861	Mar 17 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft #windows running "PC will become slower as it will serve the updates to another client." http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/let-users-bear-burden-of-updates-ms.html		Mar 17 17:23
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schestowitz	Law is political	Mar 17 17:23
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MinceR	gn	Mar 17 21:29
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DaemonFC	Apple is offering a trade down program for Android users.	Mar 17 23:31
DaemonFC	You give them your Android phone and they give you an Apple gift card that you can use with one of their phones that bends when you put it in your pocket.	Mar 17 23:31
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5778107	Mar 18 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Fedora 22 Workstation’s new notifications http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-22-workstation-new-notifications/		Mar 18 00:22
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schestowitz	"Not sure about these but can't wait to try them."	Mar 18 00:22
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schestowitz__	MinceR: http://static1.lxdcdn.net/images/max/w/806/66d29dfc7b02aa45862bb8ff8bbbe58c.png	Mar 18 06:16
XRevan86	schestowitz__: Not really.	Mar 18 06:17
MinceR	both are repulsive	Mar 18 06:17
XRevan86	MinceR: Dog like a dog.	Mar 18 06:19
XRevan86	MinceR: You don't like dogs?	Mar 18 06:19
MinceR	i don't	Mar 18 06:20
XRevan86	That explains everything.	Mar 18 06:20
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schestowitz__	> older:	Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz__	> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement&oldid=11098973	Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz__	Would that be of any use to TR?	Mar 18 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meta.wikimedia.org \| Single User Login finalisation announcement - Meta [ http://ur1.ca/jxjzd ]		Mar 18 08:01
schestowitz__	> http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/the-gnu-manifesto-turns-thirty	Mar 18 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newyorker.com \| Richard Stallman’s GNU Manifesto Turns Thirty - The New Yorker [ http://ur1.ca/jxk01 ]		Mar 18 08:05
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 08:05
schestowitz__	> side note: Dr Dobbs sold out, declined and then shut down	Mar 18 08:05
schestowitz__	it was shut down after a Microsoft tool, Binstock, ran it to the ground.	Mar 18 08:05
schestowitz__	> http://video.fosdem.org/2015/devroom-distributions/whats_new_in_systemd,_2015_edition__CAM_ONLY.mp4	Mar 18 08:06
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 08:06
schestowitz__	> :(	Mar 18 08:06
schestowitz__	systemDOS	Mar 18 08:06
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TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.75	Mar 18 08:07
schestowitz__	> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2999878/Snowden-leaks-spies-risk-says-traitor-damaged-intelligence-agencies-world-including-MI5-MI6.html	Mar 18 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk \| Theresa May says Edward Snowden has damaged intelligence agencies across the world \| Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jxk0n ]		Mar 18 08:10
schestowitz__	>	Mar 18 08:10
schestowitz__	> note caption	Mar 18 08:10
schestowitz__	>>> older:	Mar 18 08:17
schestowitz__	>>> >>	Mar 18 08:17
schestowitz__	>>> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Single_User_Login_finalisation_announcement&oldid=11098973	Mar 18 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meta.wikimedia.org \| Single User Login finalisation announcement - Meta [ http://ur1.ca/jxjzd ]		Mar 18 08:17
schestowitz__	>> >	Mar 18 08:17
schestowitz__	>> > Would that be of any use to TR?	Mar 18 08:17
schestowitz__	>> >	Mar 18 08:17
schestowitz__	>> >	Mar 18 08:17
schestowitz__	> Well the separate TR components seem to be using separate login	Mar 18 08:17
schestowitz__	> credentials. It would be useful but I'm not sure the work vs return	Mar 18 08:17
schestowitz__	> makes it any kind of priority.	Mar 18 08:17
schestowitz__	If community role expands (and not trolls/spam), then we can use LDAP. I set it up for other Wikis before.	Mar 18 08:17
MinceR	geekings	Mar 18 08:59
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/rogervycsumbhj/status/578180059531350016	Mar 18 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rogervycsumbhj: @schestowitz The Most Powerful Android Smart Dock EVER Lets You Turn Your Phone Into a Mini Desktop! 1 http://t.co/7NTN3EYUpS		Mar 18 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.indiegogo.com \| Most Powerful Android Smart Dock \| Indiegogo		Mar 18 09:05
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MinceR	even works with apple branded samsung mobiles!	Mar 18 09:08
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schestowitz__	ha	Mar 18 09:18
schestowitz__	components	Mar 18 09:18
cubexyz	http://www.sltrib.com/news/2303519-155/its-alive-utah-software-companys-decade-old	Mar 18 09:23
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msb_	I was a Dr Dobbs subscriber. Was shocked when it started running articles about MS-Windows tech. It became useless, then disappeared.	Mar 18 10:42
msb_	The psychopath rulers attack everywhere.	Mar 18 10:43
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cubexyz	we have Linux Format	Mar 18 11:05
cubexyz	I have quite a few old Dr Dobb's issues	Mar 18 11:05
cubexyz	you probably can remember the pre-microsoft era better than most	Mar 18 11:07
cubexyz	I can remember windows articles going back to 1990 and before	Mar 18 11:10
cubexyz	I tested Windows 2.0 at work in 1988 or so	Mar 18 11:10
cubexyz	basically it started as Microsoft's version of Visi On	Mar 18 11:12
cubexyz	the original GUI war was Topview, GEM, X Window System and M$ Windows	Mar 18 11:14
cubexyz	I guess I should include Amiga Workbench and the Atari one also	Mar 18 11:14
cubexyz	we can thank MIT, DEC and IBM for saving us from a Windows only GUI world	Mar 18 11:15
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5780483	Mar 18 11:25
schestowitz__	"The Right is ramping up its rhetoric again for privatizing Social Security here, too."	Mar 18 11:26
schestowitz__	They must be Right	Mar 18 11:26
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lirodon	you know MS is desperate when they even have to give away Windows 10 to pirates	Mar 18 11:39
abeNd-org	as someone who still has to support ms, as well as linux, ill be happy to have everyone rolled over to one desktop platform (still plenty of business/enterprise apps with no linux equiv)	Mar 18 11:55
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MinceR	what will the One Desktop Platform be?	Mar 18 12:21
MinceR	windows? macos? lendows?	Mar 18 12:21
MinceR	or the government-mandated One Platform once they'll require government permits to allow you to even use a computer you can write programs on (while being heavily monitored, of course), while everyone is forced to use locked-down appliances?	Mar 18 12:22
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abeNd-org	win10 for the business/enterprise clients, since so much business/enterprise software is still windows only, at least it wont be a mix of win2000/xp/vista/7/8/8.1. thankfully not too many macs, & 0 linux desktops (plenty of linux servers though)	Mar 18 12:43
MinceR	ah, so you'd force windows on all of us	Mar 18 12:44
abeNd-org	nope	Mar 18 12:45
abeNd-org	where there is linux back ends to enterprise apps, ive used them, but most of the time even those only have windows front ends	Mar 18 12:45
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Anonymous_	Hi Roy, is HMA secure enough for me not to be tracked down using this channel ?	Mar 18 12:58
Anonymous_	All EPO internet in and out traffic routed through 80.81.193.61	Mar 18 12:59
Anonymous_	This IP belongs to moscow based Moscow Telecom Corp or COMCOR	Mar 18 12:59
Anonymous_	COMCOR like Commander of the Corp, old russian army grade.	Mar 18 13:00
Anonymous_	This company presents itself as being specialized in data and trafic analysis.	Mar 18 13:00
Anonymous_	More later...	Mar 18 13:01
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XRevan86	Oh god why	Mar 18 13:08
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XRevan86	Windows 10 will be free for everyone, probably only for a year.	Mar 18 13:09
XRevan86	not only in China	Mar 18 13:09
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schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782181	Mar 18 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #LEGO Minifigures coming to #gnu #linux or not? https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/lego-minifigures-online-looks-possible-for-linux.5106 http://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/lego-minifigures-online-is-not-coming-to-linux-sadly.5111		Mar 18 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com \| LEGO Minifigures Online Looks Possible For Linux \| GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/jxlw1 ]		Mar 18 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gamingonlinux.com \| LEGO Minifigures Online Is Not Coming To Linux, Sadly \| GamingOnLinux [ http://ur1.ca/jxlw2 ]		Mar 18 13:14
schestowitz__	"LEGO Minifigures Online Is Not Coming To Linux, Sadly"	Mar 18 13:15
MinceR	no, it will be gratis	Mar 18 13:20
XRevan86	http://lwn.net/Articles/637120	Mar 18 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net \| Utah software company’s decade-old suit against IBM revived (SL Tribune) [LWN.net]		Mar 18 13:31
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782170	Mar 18 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: BioShock Infinite Released For Linux, Thanks To Virtual Programming https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/bioshock-infinite-released-for-linux-thanks-to-virtual-programming.5108		Mar 18 13:38
schestowitz__	"What what whaaaaaat?! :D"	Mar 18 13:38
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schestowitz__	Confirmed in other sites too now	Mar 18 13:39
abeNd-org	so when will blizzard officially support linux? that would be a nice bump	Mar 18 13:42
schestowitz__	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5781212	Mar 18 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A lot of people whom I hear saying they "need a new phone" don't say so because they can no longer make calls. It's about vanity/apps.		Mar 18 13:42
schestowitz__	Here the same, but seldom hear "need savings in the bank", maybe that's not fashionable.""	Mar 18 13:42
schestowitz__	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/578249844038328320	Mar 18 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Industry been in this thick-as-thieves since day-zero!		Mar 18 13:43
MinceR	when will abeNd-org officially support GNU/Linux?	Mar 18 13:44
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abeNd-org	pfff, server side i already do, just not on the desktop (yet, until given a reason)	Mar 18 13:46
MinceR	there's at least one good reason: GNU/Linux on the desktop was less retarded than windows on the desktop for 15 years or more	Mar 18 13:47
abeNd-org	retarded or not, if the business/enterprise apps customers need arent there, then it is not usable	Mar 18 13:48
MinceR	in which case nothing is usable	Mar 18 13:56
MinceR	so might as well go till the fields instead	Mar 18 13:56
abeNd-org	shrug not my fault vendors choose to make a linux back end yet still require a windows front end	Mar 18 13:57
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MinceR	shrug not my fault m$ and apple refuse to fix their windowing systems	Mar 18 13:59
abeNd-org	yea, macosx & ios were tops on the security vulnerability list this past yr, even higher than winderz	Mar 18 14:02
schestowitz	>	Mar 18 14:03
schestowitz	> These people might be able to provide technical details about the	Mar 18 14:03
schestowitz	> attacks on their server so that a comparison could be carried out	Mar 18 14:03
schestowitz	> to see if there were any similarities on a technical level.	Mar 18 14:03
schestowitz	Rikard had phoned me, so some dots are connecting now (he also speaks	Mar 18 14:03
schestowitz	to Stilin). Is the portal above covering many other types of stories	Mar 18 14:03
schestowitz	and if so, why do you think the attacks on them may be due to Topic	Mar 18 14:03
schestowitz	coverage? BTW, Rikard calls Topic dangerous man. There is also a	Mar 18 14:03
schestowitz	family connection and Topic seemingly harasses Rikard's family (son).	Mar 18 14:03
abeNd-org	From someone in another channel - "rofl so M$ is calling their new browser that will replace IE "Project Spartan" - thus I recommend the slogan "Inviting Trojans!""	Mar 18 14:06
MinceR	lol	Mar 18 14:08
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schestowitz	"	Mar 18 14:33
schestowitz	We don't have any direct contact to Mr. Frgacic so we can't really comment on the merits of his case but we had a look at his "jumbo mail" videos.	Mar 18 14:33
schestowitz	As far as we can work out, these programs were broadcast on the main Croatian TV channel (HRT) so it seems that he has some public credibility in Croatia.	Mar 18 14:33
schestowitz	Regards	Mar 18 14:33
schestowitz	PS: According to the information we received, the "jumbo mails" will be valid for about another week so anyone who is interested should make a copy of the videos before they expire:	Mar 18 14:33
schestowitz	https://jumbo.iskon.hr/download/2b0a1188-6c89-41c7-a37f-12dc680deff1?locale=en	Mar 18 14:33
schestowitz	https://jumbo.iskon.hr/download/938bfcf3-d66c-4eeb-bd8b-f15517c5a9b1?locale=en	Mar 18 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jumbo.iskon.hr \| Iskon.Jumbo [ http://ur1.ca/jxmfd ]		Mar 18 14:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jumbo.iskon.hr \| Iskon.Jumbo [ http://ur1.ca/jxmfe ]		Mar 18 14:33
schestowitz	"	Mar 18 14:33
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schestowitz	"	Mar 18 14:55
schestowitz	Roy,	Mar 18 14:55
schestowitz	We attach a copy of an English translation of the Judgment in the recent Zeljko Topic defamation case.	Mar 18 14:55
schestowitz	We also attach a copy of the original judgment in Croatian.	Mar 18 14:55
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schestowitz	You are free to publish these documents as you see fit.	Mar 18 14:55
schestowitz	Regards	Mar 18 14:55
schestowitz	"	Mar 18 14:55
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782710	Mar 18 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Cisco posts kit to empty houses to dodge #NSA chop shops http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/18/want_to_dodge_nsa_supply_chain_taps_ask_cisco_for_a_dead_drop/?mt=1426694168077 publicity stunt from backdoors collaborator		Mar 18 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk \| Cisco posts kit to empty houses to dodge NSA chop shops • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/jxmwq ]		Mar 18 15:52
schestowitz	"the Cisco/NSA BFFship is history?"	Mar 18 15:52
schestowitz	Saving face IMHO	Mar 18 15:53
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5782581	Mar 18 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "GCW-ZERO runs a version of open source Linux. It’s developed by the community so expect regular updates." http://kdvr.com/2015/03/06/tech-review-open-source-gaming-in-your-pocket-gcw-zero-gcwzero-open-source-gaming-console/		Mar 18 16:01
schestowitz	"love it"	Mar 18 16:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> kdvr.com \| Tech Review: Open source gaming in your pocket – GCW-ZERO \| FOX31 Denver [ http://ur1.ca/jxmye ]		Mar 18 16:01
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DaemonFC	http://www.geek.com/microsoft/microsoft-is-building-a-windows-10-rom-that-wipes-android-off-phones-1618288/	Mar 18 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com \| Microsoft is building a Windows 10 ROM that wipes Android off phones \| Microsoft \| Geek.com [ http://ur1.ca/jxo0v ]		Mar 18 19:04
DaemonFC	RF • 2 minutes ago	Mar 18 19:04
DaemonFC	"The pitch is logical enough: why not offer a Windows model and give people the choice, especially when there’s minimal effort involved in doing it?"	Mar 18 19:04
DaemonFC	Because then you have a significant inventory of phones that you can't move until you give up, return them to the manufacturer, reflash them with Android, and sell as refurbished?	Mar 18 19:04
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MinceR	yeah, "choice", the microsoft way	Mar 18 19:06
MinceR	i'm all too familiar with that kind of "choice"	Mar 18 19:06
DaemonFC	http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/18/8241023/windows-10-free-for-software-pirates	Mar 18 19:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| Windows 10 will be free for software pirates \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/jxo1e ]		Mar 18 19:07
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Mar 18 19:07
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Mar 18 19:07
DaemonFC	That's nice. Give them a free upgrade. That'll teach people to be a big fat idiot and pay $80 for a licensed copy. smile emoticon	Mar 18 19:07
DaemonFC	I'm assuming that while this is going on, people building new PCs will just install a cracked copy of Windows 7 or 8 and then initiate the upgrade process.	Mar 18 19:08
MinceR	they won't learn anything	Mar 18 19:08
MinceR	they're windows users	Mar 18 19:08
gde33	MinceR: while there are many alternatives, without marketing they are not really usuable for that type of users	Mar 18 19:10
MinceR	i know, there are users who _want_ windows-style bad design and bugs	Mar 18 19:10
MinceR	case in point: systemd apologists	Mar 18 19:10
gde33	yes, one could also say they care more about other things	Mar 18 19:11
MinceR	it's not difficult to care more than "not at all" about something	Mar 18 19:11
gde33	xp was just bad but it was not as bad as many ui's that followed. metro shows that ms doesn't remember how to design an ui either	Mar 18 19:11
DaemonFC	http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/18/8250595/t-mobile-uncarrier-for-business-announced	Mar 18 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com \| T-Mobile announces 'Uncarrier' plans for businesses \| The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/jxo2i ]		Mar 18 19:11
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Mar 18 19:12
DaemonFC	Just now ·	Mar 18 19:12
DaemonFC	I've heard that T-Mobile is the only carrier that manages to drop more calls than Sprint. I haven't had both, but Sprint is pretty bad. Anyone?	Mar 18 19:12
MinceR	how could they remember something they never knew in the first place?	Mar 18 19:12
DaemonFC	MinceR, Homeopathy	Mar 18 19:12
MinceR	lol	Mar 18 19:12
gde33	that is just the thing, they depend on advertisement for product information	Mar 18 19:12
gde33	and expect the first computer shop to sell them a CD	Mar 18 19:12
*DaemonFC loves HexChat. Doesn't understand how mIRC can possibly still exist.		Mar 18 19:14
MinceR	a cd, in 2015?	Mar 18 19:14
DaemonFC	The last time I regularly used mIRC, I think I was running Windows 98.	Mar 18 19:14
gde33	MinceR: something they can stick in the computer and have it install	Mar 18 19:15
MinceR	that's not how they got windows anyway	Mar 18 19:15
gde33	also, paying for a product means you are to get support	Mar 18 19:15
gde33	sending some oblivious noob into grunt is the worse marketing idea	Mar 18 19:16
MinceR	yeah, i know that kind of support all too well	Mar 18 19:16
gde33	it sucks, but it is the expectation that they value	Mar 18 19:16
gde33	advertisement people are all about the way things look	Mar 18 19:16
MinceR	microsoft's bugs that will never get fixed	Mar 18 19:17
gde33	it is just how they think	Mar 18 19:17
MinceR	dell's decisions that certain things just aren't covered by the warranty	Mar 18 19:17
MinceR	it's how they don't think	Mar 18 19:17
gde33	hating on MS is not going to magically write a supperior OS	Mar 18 19:17
MinceR	the superior os has been around for over a decade	Mar 18 19:17
MinceR	some people made it very clear that they made a (supposedly informed) decision that they don't want it	Mar 18 19:18
MinceR	in general, the human species wants to go extinct and suffer a lot along the way	Mar 18 19:18
gde33	wich is that? how should one learn where to find it?	Mar 18 19:18
MinceR	gnu/linux	Mar 18 19:19
gde33	linux distro users are just like ms users, they try 2 or 3 distro's at most then argue their choice to be the right one	Mar 18 19:19
gde33	linux is not an os	Mar 18 19:19
MinceR	indeed, it's a kernel	Mar 18 19:19
gde33	I think in 2015 one would have to design hardware, then while doing so develop an OS and at the same time develop native application for all standard use cases	Mar 18 19:19
MinceR	and the ones who find their distro in 3 tries are lucky	Mar 18 19:19
MinceR	nobody does that	Mar 18 19:19
gde33	exactly	Mar 18 19:19
MinceR	m$ doesn't do that	Mar 18 19:20
MinceR	crApple doesn't do that	Mar 18 19:20
gde33	no one does that	Mar 18 19:20
gde33	so everyone is wrong in my view	Mar 18 19:20
MinceR	it would require a megacorporation in a scale that's beyond the giants of today	Mar 18 19:20
gde33	you might see something like it on some phones	Mar 18 19:20
MinceR	hardly	Mar 18 19:20
MinceR	ARM doesn't design phones	Mar 18 19:20
MinceR	others don't design ISAs	Mar 18 19:20
gde33	that might be the case, that it requires such a mega corp	Mar 18 19:20
MinceR	most others don't even design CPU cores	Mar 18 19:21
gde33	regardless of the arguments why it cant be done, this is the way to make something truly magical and progressive	Mar 18 19:21
gde33	it was not my idea to create monopolies with intelectual property and patents for their monopoly	Mar 18 19:22
gde33	it use to be that monopolies were illegal	Mar 18 19:22
gde33	it is just a sad world of trolls now	Mar 18 19:22
gde33	btw a mega corp?	Mar 18 19:22
gde33	why cant it be some other form?	Mar 18 19:22
gde33	say a mega community or some colaborating governments?	Mar 18 19:23
MinceR	i assumed that's what you meant	Mar 18 19:23
MinceR	i suppose a community could do it	Mar 18 19:23
MinceR	maybe with the rise of free hardware designs, the free software community will do that	Mar 18 19:24
gde33	the financial swindle is at the core of lack of development	Mar 18 19:24
gde33	If I look at kickstarter I see that average joe just doesn't have any money?	Mar 18 19:24
gde33	the corruption is also at the core of bad education, to render people non disruptive	Mar 18 19:25
gde33	if normal people had some 500 euro laying around just to spend on some fun global effort to build a new home computer it would be astonishing	Mar 18 19:27
MinceR	they would never care to spend it on that	Mar 18 19:27
MinceR	they don't know what is a computer and they don't care	Mar 18 19:27
gde33	not in the current settings no	Mar 18 19:27
MinceR	and if it's up to the likes of m$, crApple and intel, this is only going to get worse	Mar 18 19:28
gde33	they dont have to care about the computer, it should be money spend just on being part of something wonderful	Mar 18 19:28
gde33	you get 500 euro worth of feeling good about yourself, that should be enough	Mar 18 19:28
DaemonFC	http://wane.com/2015/03/18/microsoft-plans-replacement-for-internet-explorer	Mar 18 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wane.com \| Microsoft plans replacement for Internet Explorer \| WANE [ http://ur1.ca/jxo5j ]		Mar 18 19:28
MinceR	eventually it may get very difficult for us to get a general purpose computer at all	Mar 18 19:28
DaemonFC	RF • a minute ago	Mar 18 19:28
DaemonFC	I said goodbye to Monoposoft Internet Exploder immediately after I tried it in the 1990s. Microsoft welded it into the Windows 98 user interface shell and I had to pry it back out using a utility called "Revenge of Mozilla" written by a nice man named Bruce Jensen because the new Windows 98 Internet Explorer shell was (1) massively unstable, (2) a resource pig, (3) and it leaked GDI objects until Windows eventually crashed. Luckily, I had a	Mar 18 19:28
DaemonFC	copy of the Windows 95 OSR 2.1 versions of explorer.exe, cmdlg32.dll, and shell32.dll to provide for the utility to swap out the shell for one that worked right. I'd rather use anything but Internet Explorer. It's still nothing other than a slow, stupid, security hazard, even with version 11. The first thing I did was install Chrome and delete the IE shortcuts. I hope that with Windows 10, we have the option to totally remove IE 11, or else	Mar 18 19:28
DaemonFC	it's just going to be yet more bloat that must be supported forever because of Microsoft's illegal monopolistic legacy. Windows is already 12 times larger than a complete installation of Ubuntu, and whereas the fresh copy of Windows doesn't have most of the software you need, while the fresh copy of Ubuntu does. Windows is obese. Microsoft is getting around the excess bloat problem in Windows 10 by using file compression to make some of the	Mar 18 19:28
DaemonFC	system files use less space on disk/ssd. Windows is utter crap, and the only reason to have it is because there exists some software that doesn't work correctly in Wine. Windows and IE belong together. They're like old swiss cheese. They're full of holes and they stink.	Mar 18 19:28
gde33	MinceR: certainly	Mar 18 19:28
MinceR	> Microsoft plans replacement for the "Internet Explorer" brand	Mar 18 19:28
MinceR	FTFY	Mar 18 19:28
gde33	MinceR: yeah, we are in 1996 now!	Mar 18 19:29
gde33	woo hooo!	Mar 18 19:29
MinceR	it's more likely that it will get even more difficult to remove	Mar 18 19:30
MinceR	seeing how it's at the base of the HTML5-based metro UI	Mar 18 19:30
DaemonFC	MinceR, No. There's a fork of Trident that's being used by the new browser.	Mar 18 19:31
MinceR	ooh, a fork of Trident	Mar 18 19:31
DaemonFC	They stripped out a bunch of old legacy MSHTML crap and did stuff apparently.	Mar 18 19:31
gde33	html is really a quite stupid idea	Mar 18 19:31
DaemonFC	I glanced at a blog post about it.	Mar 18 19:31
MinceR	html is horribly badly designed	Mar 18 19:31
gde33	if it was just a bitmap with x,y cordinates we wouldn't have all these problems	Mar 18 19:32
MinceR	but tbl, m$, MPEG LA and the DRM Fan Club are working on making it a lot more horrible	Mar 18 19:32
MinceR	i have a replacement for html in mind, but only for hypertext (and maybe form) use cases	Mar 18 19:33
MinceR	the remote GUI part has to stay out of that one	Mar 18 19:33
MinceR	anyway, nobody will use it	Mar 18 19:34
MinceR	because it won't be shiny	Mar 18 19:34
gde33	Do you know PICS rating?	Mar 18 19:34
MinceR	i do not	Mar 18 19:35
gde33	in the early interwebs a sophisticated content rating system was developed	Mar 18 19:35
gde33	it was endlessly flamed by journalists who didn't want the scrunity. scrunity = no advertisement revenue	Mar 18 19:35
gde33	today it is really only used for filtering adult content	Mar 18 19:36
gde33	but it has all the sexy qualities to rate content	Mar 18 19:36
gde33	crudely put, the idea was to make it possible for everyone to start their own rating service	Mar 18 19:36
gde33	you can copy but also invent your own terms	Mar 18 19:37
gde33	so you have a quality, say "foobar"	Mar 18 19:37
gde33	then you give it a scale, say 1-5	Mar 18 19:37
gde33	you may then assign a description to "foobar" 1	Mar 18 19:38
gde33	like say "anti foobar"	Mar 18 19:38
gde33	or "poor foobar support"	Mar 18 19:38
gde33	the eventuall rating would have an url to a file where your rating system is described	Mar 18 19:38
gde33	along with a short hand, probably F for foobar, so F1E3G5D2Z1	Mar 18 19:39
gde33	would be poor foobar support	Mar 18 19:39
gde33	you add a html element, I think it was a <link> not sure, put the href and the rating inthere	Mar 18 19:40
gde33	but you can also submit the page url to a more sophisticated rating service and have the F1E3G5D2Z1 as the response text	Mar 18 19:40
gde33	it also had a kind of tracker that gathers ratings from popular rating services	Mar 18 19:41
gde33	think of it like user generated meta tags with a defined rating level	Mar 18 19:41
gde33	if you are interested in foobar you can request pages with foobar rating 5, or "full support for foobar"	Mar 18 19:42
gde33	use your friends rating service mixed with respectable gurus	Mar 18 19:43
gde33	it was quite the offical thing http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_1.12.0/com.ibm.zos.r12.dgwa400/imwziu18499.htm	Mar 18 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www-01.ibm.com \| IBM Knowledge Center [ http://ur1.ca/jxo8v ]		Mar 18 19:45
gde33	http://www.w3.org/PICS/	Mar 18 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org \| Platform for Internet Content Selection (PICS)Platform for Internet Content Selection (PICS)		Mar 18 19:45
gde33	http://www.w3.org/PICS/PICS-FAQ-980126.html	Mar 18 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org \| PICS, Censorship, and Intellectual Freedom FAQ [ http://ur1.ca/jxo90 ]		Mar 18 19:46
gde33	Yes. While the motivation for PICS was concern over children accessing inappropriate materials, it is a general "meta-data" system, meaning that labels can provide any kind of descriptive information about Internet materials. For example, a labeling vocabulary could indicate the literary quality of an item rather than its appropriateness for children. Most immediately, PICS labels could help in finding particularly desirable materials (s	Mar 18 19:48
gde33	ee, for example, NetShepherd's label-informed Alta Vista search), and this is the main motivation for the ongoing work on a next generation label format that can include arbitrary text strings.	Mar 18 19:48
MinceR	is PICS used today?	Mar 18 19:49
gde33	only serious use is by child content filters	Mar 18 19:50
gde33	but it did survive	Mar 18 19:50
gde33	rss has a tag for it	Mar 18 19:50
gde33	MinceR: anyway, with the browser becoming an application platform I think there will be room for a text only browser with a bunch of "new" technologies added	Mar 18 19:51
MinceR	we'll see, i guess	Mar 18 19:51
gde33	people dont seem to like the idea of a proper rating system but this will change when they see it work	Mar 18 19:52
gde33	I think p2p text documents could be something awesome	Mar 18 19:52
gde33	could have licence servers where one can request the licence type for the materials represented by that service	Mar 18 19:53
MinceR	"licence server" sounds like "DRM" to me :>	Mar 18 19:54
gde33	yes, a volentary drm	Mar 18 19:54
gde33	so that people who dont want to distribute copyrighted texts dont have to	Mar 18 19:54
gde33	but also so that people who claim to have the rights to something can pay for our infrastructure	Mar 18 19:54
gde33	the old trick to avoid drm on text is to write a book review	Mar 18 19:55
gde33	the author of the book might even like it	Mar 18 19:56
gde33	think of the licence as just another bit of meta data to be had	Mar 18 19:57
gde33	if the text was written 100 years ago I will just distribute it ignoring claims of copyright	Mar 18 19:58
gde33	MinceR: I've actually grown to like content filters, I think they are awesome	Mar 18 19:59
MinceR	how so?	Mar 18 20:00
gde33	here is my rss aggregator, look where it says BAD WORDS AND BAD WORD COMBINATIONS http://opml.go-here.nl/the-internet.user.js	Mar 18 20:00
gde33	I'm slowly making hard coded feed lists, takes a bit of time, currently it has 6552 working feeds	Mar 18 20:02
gde33	the bad words make up an unreasonable % of headlines	Mar 18 20:03
MinceR	oh, i see	Mar 18 20:03
MinceR	that does sound potentially useful	Mar 18 20:03
gde33	I'm my own parrent :D	Mar 18 20:03
gde33	haha	Mar 18 20:03
MinceR	it's less of an "i can't bear to see this" and more of a "spare me of this" thing :)	Mar 18 20:04
gde33	yeah	Mar 18 20:05
gde33	it should also have a temp list, I just didn't get to that	Mar 18 20:05
gde33	things like virgin galactic are onthere because I didn't want to have 100 articles every day about some rich dude who died	Mar 18 20:05
gde33	but I never want to see an article about steve jobs ever again	Mar 18 20:06
gde33	samsung with their multibilion advert budget is also not worht reading about	Mar 18 20:07
gde33	if they add a drop shadow to an icon there will be an endless flow of articles about it	Mar 18 20:07
MinceR	of course there will, because crApple will immediately claim they invented the drop shadow and sue everyone	Mar 18 20:08
gde33	yeah, then next thing you dont want to know what is going on in the world anymore	Mar 18 20:09
gde33	enough about these terrarists already!	Mar 18 20:09
gde33	no I dont live in israel	Mar 18 20:09
MinceR	:>	Mar 18 20:09
MinceR	yet.	Mar 18 20:09
gde33	heh	Mar 18 20:10
gde33	russian and african english news sources are kinda interesting	Mar 18 20:11
gde33	you dont see those very often in google	Mar 18 20:11
gde33	they are kinda outnumbered	Mar 18 20:11
MinceR	not even pravda^Wrt?	Mar 18 20:11
gde33	we think western governments are corrupt but compared to africa it is rather modest	Mar 18 20:12
gde33	it is also a good indicator what corrupt officals are capable of	Mar 18 20:13
gde33	up to some point tho, egypt is to depressing for my taste	Mar 18 20:13
gde33	south africa is facinating	Mar 18 20:14
gde33	there corporations can just call the government and have them do whatever idiotic thing they want	Mar 18 20:14
gde33	shoot the protestors, put people in prison for saying the ZA bank is privately owned	Mar 18 20:15
gde33	*SA	Mar 18 20:15
gde33	but for a rating system my bad words filter is kinda unsophisticated and low tech	Mar 18 20:16
gde33	it has 1 quality with 2 possible values	Mar 18 20:17
DaemonFC	Someone pointed out on Amazon Forums that 70% of men in my age group (20-34) are unmarried. I replied:	Mar 18 21:00
DaemonFC	"Actually, now that gay marriage is legal, it just means that 30% of men were stupid enough to let a partner that has a 50/50 chance of turning out to be a malicious (something-or-other) drag them by the **** into a courthouse to sign papers to give the government more control over their life.	Mar 18 21:00
DaemonFC	In Huntington, Indiana, when you go in front of the judge, he's an unelected judge because nobody ever opposes him, meaning that he can't lose no matter what he does to people day in and day out. And he presides over all of the divorces in the county. Consider that."	Mar 18 21:00
DaemonFC	And you know what the Republican judges presiding over gay divorces are going to start doing to us.	Mar 18 21:00
DaemonFC	"Eeny, meeny, miny, moe..... He gets everything!"	Mar 18 21:00
DaemonFC	The sheer terror of being picked at random to lose all of your stuff will deter gay people from getting married. You heard it here first.	Mar 18 21:00
gde33	DaemonFC: are you maried?	Mar 18 21:13
DaemonFC	No.	Mar 18 21:14
gde33	why?	Mar 18 21:14
DaemonFC	Well, I could have been, several times, if it had been legal and with the way I was thinking.	Mar 18 21:14
DaemonFC	Glad the law stopped me, in retrospect. That's not to say that I agree with the ban.	Mar 18 21:15
gde33	personally I dont see a point in the religious ritual	Mar 18 21:15
DaemonFC	Every citizen should have equal rights in a society that is based on laws.	Mar 18 21:15
DaemonFC	Even the right to do something stupid.	Mar 18 21:15
gde33	I dont need a priest or the government in bed with me, I can figure out the sex without them.	Mar 18 21:16
gde33	but more interestingly...	Mar 18 21:16
gde33	I think technology brought a ton of isolation	Mar 18 21:16
gde33	what kind of things do you go out for?	Mar 18 21:16
gde33	it seems bars and discos attract a different kind of people nowadays	Mar 18 21:17
gde33	getting a drink is so expensive here I'm just not interested in it	Mar 18 21:17
gde33	the library or other kinds of social gatherings all seem in decline	Mar 18 21:18
gde33	in stead we are talking on irc to a rather disinterested audience :P	Mar 18 21:19
gde33	no offense	Mar 18 21:19
MinceR	i don't see a point in the state having to do anything with such matters	Mar 18 21:19
MinceR	which makes the ritual pointless	Mar 18 21:19
gde33	yeah, if you want god in bed with you as the 3rd wheel on the cart that is up to you	Mar 18 21:19
MinceR	i'm my own god :>	Mar 18 21:20
gde33	I think marrage is overly boolean	Mar 18 21:20
gde33	you either stay or you leave, there is nothing between it offically	Mar 18 21:21
MinceR	indeed	Mar 18 21:21
gde33	it should be the natural organic analog spectrum	Mar 18 21:21
MinceR	gn	Mar 18 21:52
DaemonFC	The funny thing was that the most significant decline in teen pregnancy in America in decades came on the heels of "16 and pregnant". You warn them about AIDS and STIs and they're like "Meh!". You show them what having kids is like, and they're all "Holy shit!!!! Condom condom condom condom! Gotta find a condom! Where's the condoms!?"."	Mar 18 23:51
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XRevan86	MinceR: hi	Mar 19 08:59
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/johnkt09/status/578650764257730561	Mar 19 16:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@johnkt09: @schestowitz @FrancisJeffrey7 You can get married in Qom by the hour.		Mar 19 16:17
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MinceR	gn	Mar 19 22:08
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schestowitz	> http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/03/groundwater-pumping-sea-level-rise	Mar 20 06:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.motherjones.com \| We're Pumping So Much Groundwater That It's Causing the Oceans to Rise \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/jxz74 ]		Mar 20 06:02
schestowitz	>	Mar 20 06:02
schestowitz	> some of that is fossil water and not coming back	Mar 20 06:02
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/vlfig/status/578856895269703680 https://twitter.com/vlfig/status/578857327513767936	Mar 20 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vlfig: @schestowitz they're obviously in the business of serving those who pay them.		Mar 20 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vlfig: @schestowitz which may in fact be the users themselves, if those companies are searching for a market.		Mar 20 06:08
schestowitz	#twitter is becoming almost indistinguishable from #facebook now, more and more over time	Mar 20 06:08
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/vlfig/status/578861004240658433	Mar 20 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vlfig: @schestowitz but aren't we talking about public data?		Mar 20 06:14
schestowitz	Facebook still worse than Twitter because it sells 'private' data too	Mar 20 06:15
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__martin__	the news broke that redmond offers the source of their compiler	Mar 20 07:54
__martin__	I say: compromised, don't touch - see T//I article on apple's xcode	Mar 20 07:55
__martin__	(=	Mar 20 07:55
cubexyz	which license I wonder	Mar 20 07:57
cubexyz	apache license 2.0 it seems	Mar 20 07:58
cubexyz	I have to say I'm not interested in .NET	Mar 20 07:59
cubexyz	runs on Microsoft only... not very appealing for folks who like cross-platform development	Mar 20 08:00
__martin__	+ driver frameworks under MIT	Mar 20 08:03
cubexyz	microsoft will always be proprietary this or that	Mar 20 08:05
cubexyz	I wrote some (not much but some) msdos and windows code	Mar 20 08:08
cubexyz	I don't mind running stuff I wrote myself on dosbox or wine but that's about as far as I'm going to take it	Mar 20 08:09
cubexyz	all sorts of windows assumptions are baked into dotNET	Mar 20 08:27
cubexyz	game code ported from windows to mac to linux, that isn't too bad since it's already got abstracted from windows	Mar 20 08:28
cubexyz	the game network code was all different for each of the three versions though	Mar 20 08:30
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MinceR	m$ must be really desperate to have people run their crap code	Mar 20 09:43
MinceR	maybe they noticed redhat appeared as a competitor in the "crap software" market	Mar 20 09:43
MinceR	geekings	Mar 20 09:52
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MinceR	http://img.pr0gramm.com/2015/03/20/335dd2fcc5aef308.jpg	Mar 20 10:21
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abeNd-org	http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2120.html	Mar 20 11:38
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balrog	Hi all, been a while.	Mar 20 12:55
balrog	Any suggestions on recourse with a blatantly GPL-violating storage appliance vendor?	Mar 20 12:55
schestowitz	hey	Mar 20 13:25
schestowitz	I recalled you some weeks ago	Mar 20 13:25
schestowitz	for the RMS talk you had recorded, I think I still have it on my external drives backed upo	Mar 20 13:26
schestowitz	balrog: I suppose you're well past graduation now	Mar 20 13:26
balrog	I work there now. different department, same place	Mar 20 13:26
schestowitz	Ah, I know which one	Mar 20 13:27
schestowitz	Now there's Android, so FUD has evolved	Mar 20 13:29
schestowitz	Google and Linus takes some of the heat too, RMS gets a break...	Mar 20 13:29
balrog	well, there's the whole mediatek mess	Mar 20 13:29
balrog	and multiple other chinese vendors that don't even care	Mar 20 13:29
balrog	I know about the patent stuff	Mar 20 13:29
balrog	it's an ongoing mess of FUD, I follow it at a high level but don't go too deep because, well, no time	Mar 20 13:30
schestowitz	MinceR: even if it doesn't blow itself up, female genital mutilation will blow half of them up	Mar 20 13:30
balrog	but it annoys me when vendors think they're clever and refuse to cooperate	Mar 20 13:30
balrog	in this case though I haven't contacted the vendor about this	Mar 20 13:30
schestowitz	!google mediatek gpl	Mar 20 13:31
TechrightsBot-tr	[1] - Have You Paid Your Linux Kernel Source License Fee? - XDA Forums \| http://www.xda-developers.com/have-you-paid-your-linux-kernel-source-license-fee/	Mar 20 13:31
TechrightsBot-tr	[2] - MediaTek Releases Full Kernel Source for Android One \| http://www.xda-developers.com/mediatek-android-one-source/	Mar 20 13:31
TechrightsBot-tr	[3] - Should Mediatek honor GPL or shall Chinese phone makers use ... \| http://www.gizchina.com/2013/09/21/mediatek-honor-gpl-shall-chinese-phone-makers-use-rival-processors/	Mar 20 13:31
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schestowitz	Samsung used to do this too	Mar 20 13:31
schestowitz	DaemonFC contacted them	Mar 20 13:31
schestowitz	and we did some public shaming	Mar 20 13:31
schestowitz	Samsung is now getting more serious about FOSS and complying with the GPL	Mar 20 13:31
balrog	Samsung also is more in the spotlight	Mar 20 13:32
schestowitz	it wasn't like this years ago, they're really trying right now to recruit FOSS-savvy people	Mar 20 13:32
balrog	since they're a major consumer electronics provider	Mar 20 13:32
balrog	Mediatek? they're a supplier	Mar 20 13:32
balrog	I'm not saying this to excuse them	Mar 20 13:32
schestowitz	No wonder I never heard of anything from them	Mar 20 13:32
balrog	they make chips	Mar 20 13:32
schestowitz	my wife worked for a supplier before	Mar 20 13:32
schestowitz	Bourns	Mar 20 13:32
balrog	oh, they seem to be a decent company	Mar 20 13:32
balrog	they make passives	Mar 20 13:33
balrog	I've used their parts	Mar 20 13:33
schestowitz	they ruined her eyesight	Mar 20 13:33
balrog	:/	Mar 20 13:33
balrog	(if that's the same Bourns)	Mar 20 13:33
schestowitz	Probably	Mar 20 13:33
schestowitz	US company, but manufacturing it overseas	Mar 20 13:33
schestowitz	and QA	Mar 20 13:33
balrog	most companies do global manufacturing these days so I'm not surprised	Mar 20 13:34
balrog	high value stuff in the US or Japan or such, lower value / bulk stuff overseas (China/Taiwan usually)	Mar 20 13:34
schestowitz	even Thailand and Vietnam for some parts	Mar 20 13:34
balrog	yeah	Mar 20 13:34
schestowitz	and these nations also import labour	Mar 20 13:34
schestowitz	for lower salaries	Mar 20 13:34
schestowitz	Some even gather workforce from indonesia	Mar 20 13:35
balrog	it's not at all surprising	Mar 20 13:35
balrog	it's pretty much the status quo	Mar 20 13:35
schestowitz	West outsources to China	Mar 20 13:35
schestowitz	China brings even cheaper labour from south east Asia	Mar 20 13:35
schestowitz	Singapore does that with Indians, Sri Lankans, and Chinese...	Mar 20 13:35
schestowitz	I came back from there 1.5 weeks ago	Mar 20 13:38
balrog	as for GPL, embarrassing large vendors works, but smaller vendors (like enterprise ones) can get away easier	Mar 20 13:41
balrog	I should contact the SFC but I'm not sure I still have any paper docs for this crap	Mar 20 13:42
balrog	and if they did include a GPL disclosure in the box, I guess they could get away with it	Mar 20 13:44
balrog	they make you clickthrough a typical EULA when downloading software updates	Mar 20 13:44
schestowitz	We did this with Tuxera	Mar 20 13:50
schestowitz	SFC got involved	Mar 20 13:50
schestowitz	but at the end they came up with some explanations	Mar 20 13:50
schestowitz	so we never really published much about it (last year mostly)	Mar 20 13:50
schestowitz	Pressuring small firms works too	Mar 20 13:50
schestowitz	they are more sensitive to brand destruction	Mar 20 13:50
balrog	well here they're shipping a modded kernel with lots of closed modules, modded samba (changing even the version number), etc	Mar 20 13:51
balrog	that's just the beginning, I'm sure there are 5 or 6 other things	Mar 20 13:51
balrog	funny enough the company was compliant when under the previous owners	Mar 20 13:51
schestowitz	Tuxera?	Mar 20 13:52
balrog	nope	Mar 20 13:53
balrog	the company that sells the hardware I've got here	Mar 20 13:53
schestowitz	enforcement needed (teeth) to add to the bark then...	Mar 20 14:03
schestowitz	maybe the vmware case will raise some awareness	Mar 20 14:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines PHP 7 Set to Dramatically Acclerate PHP	Mar 20 14:33
TweetTuxMachines	Performance http://t.co/lEVEMfqmOK	Mar 20 14:33
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Transticket signs open source contract with	Mar 20 14:37
TweetTuxMachines	MariaDB http://t.co/sKwg9YyqZw	Mar 20 14:37
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DaemonFC	I don't see what the big deal was with Samsung.	Mar 20 15:42
DaemonFC	It's not like there were trade secrets involved with releasing their open source bits.	Mar 20 15:43
DaemonFC	There was a patch here or there that fixed a couple of bugs in various parts of the software they use. Most companies are glad to give those away so they don't have to maintain a forked library or something.	Mar 20 15:43
balrog	DaemonFC: it should never be a big deal to release the code	Mar 20 15:46
balrog	has anyone here requested GPL source code from lenovo (non-android)?	Mar 20 15:47
balrog	this is just for something which they've released code but apparently not the latest	Mar 20 15:47
MinceR	https://archive.today/4xJO2	Mar 20 15:54
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MinceR	time to boycott winblows 10 logo labeled hardware	Mar 20 15:54
XRevan86	MinceR: What the…	Mar 20 15:55
MinceR	the next step in the death of the general-purpose computer	Mar 20 15:56
XRevan86	MinceR: This is just sick.	Mar 20 15:56
MinceR	brought to you by m$, intel and crApple	Mar 20 15:56
DaemonFC	MinceR, I doubt they'll ever get rid of the ability to use non-Windows store software.	Mar 20 15:56
MinceR	DaemonFC: i don't share your optimism	Mar 20 15:56
balrog	The implementation of Boot Guard worries me more	Mar 20 15:57
MinceR	that's another part of the problem	Mar 20 15:57
balrog	being able to authenticate the BIOS is not a bad idea, but burning the key into the CPU? I mean come on	Mar 20 15:57
MinceR	as always, the point is not security (despite their claims)	Mar 20 15:58
MinceR	the point is lock-in	Mar 20 15:59
balrog	putting an extra chip with the key would cost a few more bucks	Mar 20 15:59
MinceR	also, you could remove that extra chip or replace it	Mar 20 15:59
balrog	you can remove the CPU or replace it	Mar 20 15:59
cubexyz	btw the secure boot code is in the wild	Mar 20 15:59
cubexyz	it's been leaked	Mar 20 16:00
MinceR	and i suspect eventually a closely controlled and surveilled caste of programmers is the goal	Mar 20 16:00
balrog	and that's what people who want to do will do	Mar 20 16:00
balrog	cubexyz: you mean the private keys?	Mar 20 16:00
balrog	Boot Guard is separate from Secure Boot	Mar 20 16:00
MinceR	so that finally companies that try to make business by selling crap code can get rid of their competition	Mar 20 16:00
balrog	Secure Boot validates the OS bootloader	Mar 20 16:00
balrog	Boot Guard validates the BIOS	Mar 20 16:00
MinceR	and perhaps to generate the illusion that security by obscurity finally works	Mar 20 16:01
cubexyz	balrog, it's the code for Cedar Trail, Ivy Bridge, Luna Pier and Sandy Bridge	Mar 20 16:01
balrog	cubexyz: where is it?	Mar 20 16:01
cubexyz	yandex might have it :)	Mar 20 16:02
cubexyz	if you want FOSS bios you want chromebook/box or Lemote	Mar 20 16:04
cubexyz	there's a few others like certain Thinkpads	Mar 20 16:04
balrog	usually older machines that don't require the AMT blob	Mar 20 16:05
balrog	or non-intel	Mar 20 16:06
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MinceR	we'll need free computers with homebrew fabbing	Mar 20 16:06
MinceR	as we can't trust fascists to sell general-purpose computers to us for long	Mar 20 16:06
cubexyz	well there's FPGAs, they can't really stop that	Mar 20 16:08
cubexyz	the bios code is getting very complex	Mar 20 16:10
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MinceR	maybe they'll ban fpga-s too	Mar 20 16:14
cubexyz	Asus has a Linux PC you can buy them at a lot of places	Mar 20 16:16
cubexyz	Asus EeeBox	Mar 20 16:16
MinceR	what will be 10 years from now?	Mar 20 16:18
schestowitz	MinceR: wow	Mar 20 16:22
schestowitz	ms peter	Mar 20 16:22
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schestowitz	if true, proves techrights right, again	Mar 20 16:22
schestowitz	one step at a time... microsoft loves linux	Mar 20 16:22
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TweetTuxMachines	Goodies Going Cheap https://t.co/I3xx8frI0w	Mar 20 16:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Mar 20 16:31
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com \| Steam's 2K 10th Anniversary Sale Has Linux Goodies Going Cheap \| GamingOnLinux		Mar 20 16:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Steam sale offers Linux games at up to 80% off	Mar 20 16:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/QSy93JII0H (www.itworld.com)	Mar 20 16:31
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Gqhkyy3jZR (www.tuxarena.com)	Mar 20 16:31
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy49u	Mar 20 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com \| Steam sale offers Linux games at up to 80% off \| ITworld		Mar 20 16:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxarena.com \| Steam Discounts: All Cyberpunk Titles and Doom & Destiny Up to 75% Off \| TuxArena		Mar 20 16:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #Wine 1.7.39 Is a Small Release, Fixes Issues	Mar 20 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	with Microsoft Word and Nero Burning ROM	Mar 20 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/N7CxAD6vFx (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 20 16:47
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy4fg	Mar 20 16:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 20 best Android apps and games this week	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/u8QQETgsSO (www.theguardian.com)	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy4fh	Mar 20 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com \| 20 best Android apps and games this week \| Technology \| The Guardian		Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Majestic Nights Developers Looking For Linux	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	Testers https://t.co/78ilrwSWkB	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy4fi	Mar 20 16:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5 on Arch Linux review	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/yY91sqgi2J (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy4fo	Mar 20 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Plasma 5 on Arch Linux review \| Tux Machines		Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GLib2 Gets Ready for GNOME 3.16, Brings Support	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	for HTTP Proxies in GIO http://t.co/jTHbWRrCRZ	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy4fr	Mar 20 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| GLib2 Gets Ready for GNOME 3.16, Brings Support for HTTP Proxies in GIO \| Tux Machines		Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Tizen TV SDK 1.4 has been released	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/D42KkxYIRJ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 20 16:48
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy4fv	Mar 20 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Samsung Tizen TV SDK 1.4 has been released \| Tux Machines		Mar 20 16:48
balrog	cubexyz: FPGA development tools are anything but free	Mar 20 16:55
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MinceR	another thing that needs fixing	Mar 20 17:13
cubexyz	at least there's FOSS HDL simulation tools	Mar 20 17:15
cubexyz	Icarus and GHDL	Mar 20 17:15
cubexyz	then you can download a free (but not open source) Xilinx and Altera	Mar 20 17:15
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cubexyz	smart OEMs will allow one to disable secure boot and use it as a selling feature	Mar 20 17:28
MinceR	if any of them will care about that tiny minority of potential customers which knows what they're doing	Mar 20 17:28
cubexyz	I think ASUS cares	Mar 20 17:29
cubexyz	and i don't think the linux/bsd market is that tiny	Mar 20 17:29
cubexyz	a lot of scientists are running linux	Mar 20 17:29
MinceR	there are lots of idiots buying multi-thousand dollar facebook machines	Mar 20 17:30
MinceR	preferably with a crApple logo	Mar 20 17:30
cubexyz	you mean mac book pro, that sort of thing?	Mar 20 17:30
MinceR	that sort of thing	Mar 20 17:30
MinceR	hypePhones and hypePads too	Mar 20 17:30
MinceR	OnePort Air	Mar 20 17:30
MinceR	and apparently many former gnu/linux users just wanted a gratis winblows/macos knockoff	Mar 20 17:31
MinceR	and lendows is providing that now	Mar 20 17:31
abeNd-org	yea, we get execs "breaking" theirs every 6 months or so, so they can get new ones	Mar 20 17:31
cubexyz	ok, well all the more reason to research before you buy	Mar 20 17:33
cubexyz	which is a good idea anyways	Mar 20 17:33
MinceR	until there will be nothing left	Mar 20 17:34
MinceR	at which point research won't do you any good	Mar 20 17:34
cubexyz	a few years ago I wanted a motherboard that shipped with coreboot	Mar 20 17:37
cubexyz	now OEMs have sold millions of chromebookes/boxes	Mar 20 17:38
cubexyz	tjat	Mar 20 17:38
cubexyz	that is actually a good thing	Mar 20 17:38
MinceR	i'm not sure i'd like being forced into that choice	Mar 20 17:38
MinceR	with the tiny mass storage device and the mandatory delay on boot	Mar 20 17:38
cubexyz	the coreboot folks should be able to help you with that	Mar 20 17:43
cubexyz	http://kodi.wiki/view/Chromebox#Put_in_Developer_Mode	Mar 20 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kodi.wiki \| Chromebox - Kodi [ http://ur1.ca/jy4zg ]		Mar 20 17:44
MinceR	intel is trying to destroy coreboot and force their uefi in its place	Mar 20 17:44
MinceR	it would be nice if they had real competition	Mar 20 17:45
cubexyz	intel is actually pushing chromebooks	Mar 20 17:46
cubexyz	I think they all have intel cpus	Mar 20 17:47
MinceR	no	Mar 20 17:47
MinceR	some of them have ARM SoC-s	Mar 20 17:47
MinceR	and i think i saw some VIA CPU, too	Mar 20 17:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing 2lemetry ThingFabric, an Ubuntu	Mar 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	Snappy-Powered Internet of Things Platform	Mar 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/zXeKUDFF9g (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy51g	Mar 20 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Introducing 2lemetry ThingFabric, an Ubuntu Snappy-Powered Internet of Things Platform \| Tux Machines		Mar 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Did VMware Flout Open Source License Terms?	Mar 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/0m5JdgNoj8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy51j	Mar 20 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Did VMware Flout Open Source License Terms? \| Tux Machines		Mar 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alpine Linux 3.1.3 released	Mar 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Sxf13W1LoM (www.alpinelinux.org)	Mar 20 17:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy51k	Mar 20 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alpinelinux.org \| Alpine 3.1.3 released \| Alpine Linux		Mar 20 17:49
cubexyz	intel also makes ARM cpus	Mar 20 17:49
cubexyz	ARM doesn't manufacture cpu	Mar 20 17:50
MinceR	i thought they sold StrongARM to Marvell	Mar 20 17:50
MinceR	anyway, the ARM chromebooks i'm aware of use Samsung Exynos SoCs	Mar 20 17:50
MinceR	which all use ARM CPU core designs, afaik (Cortex)	Mar 20 17:50
cubexyz	yeah a lot of the Chromebook OEMs switched over to Intel around 2013	Mar 20 17:53
cubexyz	as you say, not all of them	Mar 20 17:53
cubexyz	not sure which one is better	Mar 20 17:54
MinceR	intel is faster, ARM is more power-efficient	Mar 20 17:55
MinceR	and ARM didn't need active cooling	Mar 20 17:55
MinceR	now it seems that intel finally managed to design mobile CPUs that don't need active cooling	Mar 20 17:55
MinceR	they both tend to be locked down	Mar 20 17:55
MinceR	http://www.theonion.com/articles/wall-street-firm-develops-new-highspeed-algorithm,38202/	Mar 20 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com \| Wall Street Firm Develops New High-Speed Algorithm Capable Of Performing Over 10,000 Ethical Violations Per Second \| The Onion - America's Finest News Source [ http://ur1.ca/jy54c ]		Mar 20 17:59
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MinceR	gn	Mar 20 20:51
balrog	MinceR, cubexyz, I have friends who are working on that (though mainly for pragmatic reasons)	Mar 20 21:09
balrog	(which is fine by me)	Mar 20 21:09
balrog	cubexyz: heard of Yosys?	Mar 20 21:10
balrog	and http://www.lowrisc.org/docs/gsoc-2015-ideas/	Mar 20 21:11
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DaemonFC	schestowitz, I uninstalled Skype.	Mar 20 22:26
DaemonFC	The only person I really talked to on it told me of a program called Tox.	Mar 20 22:26
DaemonFC	Apparently, it's open source and uses strong encryption and doesn't log anything to your disk.	Mar 20 22:27
DaemonFC	I'm secure wiping the free space on my phone.	Mar 20 22:28
DaemonFC	I'm going to encrypt it after the wiping is complete.	Mar 20 22:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Alpine Linux 3.1.3 released	Mar 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/Sn5Qp8xTA6 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy7af	Mar 20 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Alpine Linux 3.1.3 released \| Tux Machines		Mar 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The best Chromebook ever: Google's 2015 Pixel	Mar 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/G21ZiJhN6S (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy7ai	Mar 20 23:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The best Chromebook ever: Google's 2015 Pixel \| Tux Machines		Mar 20 23:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines DAQ box runs Linux on Core i7, packs Spartan-6	Mar 21 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	FPGA http://t.co/27rteOOdxl (linuxgizmos.com)	Mar 21 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy89r	Mar 21 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| DAQ box runs Linux on Core i7, packs Spartan-6 FPGA · LinuxGizmos.com		Mar 21 01:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines KDE Plasma 5 on Arch Linux review	Mar 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/5CpyhJAh0z (fasterland.net)	Mar 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy89s	Mar 21 01:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fasterland.net \| KDE Plasma 5 on Arch Linux review - Fasterland		Mar 21 01:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Embedded Linux Keeps Growing Amid IoT	Mar 21 01:53
TweetTuxMachines	Disruption, Says Study http://t.co/dAKi60icYf	Mar 21 01:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Mar 21 01:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8aj	Mar 21 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Embedded Linux Keeps Growing Amid IoT Disruption, Says Study \| Linux.com		Mar 21 01:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines 10 Things You Can Do in Android 5.1 That You	Mar 21 01:53
TweetTuxMachines	Couldn't Before http://t.co/RbY36IjwXh	Mar 21 01:53
TweetTuxMachines	(fieldguide.gizmodo.com)	Mar 21 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fieldguide.gizmodo.com \| 10 Things You Can Do in Android 5.1 That You Couldn't Before		Mar 21 01:53
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8ak	Mar 21 01:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines The best Chromebook ever: Google's 2015 Pixel	Mar 21 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/sC8U8bQhpo (www.zdnet.com)	Mar 21 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8bb	Mar 21 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com \| The best Chromebook ever: Google's 2015 Pixel \| ZDNet		Mar 21 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Introducing 2lemetry ThingFabric, an Ubuntu	Mar 21 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	Snappy-Powered Internet of Things Platform	Mar 21 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/XuC24pkAs8 (linux.softpedia.com)	Mar 21 01:56
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8bc	Mar 21 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Introducing 2lemetry ThingFabric, an Ubuntu Snappy-Powered Internet of Things Platform - Softpedia		Mar 21 01:56
*TweetTuxMachines @WooletCo favourited 'Introducing 2lemetry ThingFabric, an Ubuntu Snappy-Powered Internet of...'		Mar 21 01:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Samsung Tizen TV SDK 1.4 has been released	Mar 21 01:58
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mJlO24iCjD (www.tizenexperts.com)	Mar 21 01:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8bq	Mar 21 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| [Developer] Samsung Tizen TV SDK 1.4 has been released - Tizen Experts		Mar 21 01:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GLib2 Gets Ready for GNOME 3.16, Brings Support	Mar 21 01:58
TweetTuxMachines	for HTTP Proxies in GIO http://t.co/vHg9JPDKkn	Mar 21 01:58
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Mar 21 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GLib2 Gets Ready for GNOME 3.16, Brings Support for HTTP Proxies in GIO - Softpedia		Mar 21 01:58
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8br	Mar 21 01:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines "Google is finally delivering a few perks that	Mar 21 02:10
TweetTuxMachines	didn’t make the cut when it rolled out Android	Mar 21 02:10
TweetTuxMachines	Lollipop." http://t.co/s72GbbIXIJ	Mar 21 02:10
TweetTuxMachines	(thenextweb.com)	Mar 21 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com \| The Five Things Android Finally Got Right With 5.1		Mar 21 02:10
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8f1	Mar 21 02:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines BioShock Infinite Is The Latest Game Showing	Mar 21 02:13
TweetTuxMachines	Why Linux Gamers Choose NVIDIA	Mar 21 02:13
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/ZmhZ3fAJ5g (www.phoronix.com)	Mar 21 02:13
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8fs	Mar 21 02:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com \| BioShock Infinite Is The Latest Game Showing Why Linux Gamers Choose NVIDIA - Phoronix		Mar 21 02:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Chromebooks powered by Rockchip processors	Mar 21 02:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/mpymIXfIeu (news.softpedia.com)	Mar 21 02:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8iz	Mar 21 02:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| ASUS C201 Chromebook with Rockchip RK3288 SoC Coming Soon - Softpedia		Mar 21 02:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Gmail-Friendly Email Clients Available on Linux	Mar 21 02:25
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/GkRRGRv0yW (www.linux.com)	Mar 21 02:25
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8j0	Mar 21 02:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com \| Gmail-Friendly Email Clients Available on Linux \| Linux.com		Mar 21 02:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core	Mar 21 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	Atom SoC http://t.co/aSc5IgyrQT	Mar 21 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	(linuxgizmos.com)	Mar 21 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com \| Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core Atom SoC · LinuxGizmos.com		Mar 21 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8j1	Mar 21 02:26
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lirodon	http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/ Microsoft is allowing Windows 10 devices to have Insecure Boot permamently enabled	Mar 21 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| Windows 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality \| Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jy8jp ]		Mar 21 02:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Kernel 3.19.2 Is Available Via The Default	Mar 21 02:50
TweetTuxMachines	Repositories Of Arch Linux And Derivatives	Mar 21 02:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/D2IY7xsU3o (linuxg.net)	Mar 21 02:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8o0	Mar 21 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxg.net \| Kernel 3.19.2 Is Available Via The Default Repositories Of Arch Linux And Derivatives \| LinuxG.net		Mar 21 02:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Insync 1.2 Released With New HTML5 UI	Mar 21 02:50
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/o7o49uLp3a (www.webupd8.org)	Mar 21 02:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8o1	Mar 21 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org \| Insync 1.2 Released With New HTML5 UI ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blog		Mar 21 02:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines ASUS C201 Chromebook with Rockchip RK3288 SoC	Mar 21 02:50
TweetTuxMachines	Coming Soon http://t.co/KaZwQ1q3Xc	Mar 21 02:50
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 02:50
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://ur1.ca/jy8o2	Mar 21 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| ASUS C201 Chromebook with Rockchip RK3288 SoC Coming Soon \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 02:50
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5795412	Mar 21 03:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: This Declassified #CIA Report Shows the Shaky Case for the #Iraq War http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/03/cia-iraq-bush-wmd-report lying to funnel money to #war (and oil) industry		Mar 21 03:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com \| This Declassified CIA Report Shows the Shaky Case for the Iraq War \| Mother Jones [ http://ur1.ca/jy8t5 ]		Mar 21 03:11
schestowitz	"Have you ever read the national defense whitepaper from the Project for a New American Century? They used to have it on their site but the entire site has been gone for about a year now. I think the think tank went underground."	Mar 21 03:11
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5796232	Mar 21 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: What’s Scarier: Terrorism, or Governments Blocking Websites in its Name? https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/17/whats-scarier-terrorism-governments-unilaterally-blocking-websites-name/ #censorship on the rise		Mar 21 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org \| What's Scarier: Terrorism, or Governments Blocking Websites in its Name? - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/jy8tu ]		Mar 21 03:14
schestowitz	"	Mar 21 03:14
schestowitz	What is 'a distinction without a difference', for $500?	Mar 21 03:14
schestowitz	(that's a US game show reference to 'Jeopardy')	Mar 21 03:14
schestowitz	"	Mar 21 03:14
schestowitz	'You get the answer, and have to provide the correct response in the form of a question... :p"	Mar 21 03:14
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5727842	Mar 21 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: That awkward moment you realise your PCs at home are all unreachable (whilst away) and cause unknown (crash/network/fire/breakin)... :-/		Mar 21 03:16
schestowitz	"What happened?"	Mar 21 03:16
schestowitz	Session crash in Debian	Mar 21 03:16
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5706608	Mar 21 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Scanning about 15 family photo albums today, had to take a break for a while in case there's important news.		Mar 21 03:17
schestowitz	http://50.80.140.55/photo_album/chron/2010/2010_05_27-scanning/	Mar 21 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-50.80.140.55 \| 2010_05_27-scanning [ http://ur1.ca/jy8uh ]		Mar 21 03:17
schestowitz	":( If it's any help, here's pictures of one of my last big scanning efforts. I've got a hand held scanner now but still like the flat beds."	Mar 21 03:17
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5797755	Mar 21 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #nadella is a liar and a fraud. #microsoft does not love #linux as it continues to attack it. http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/201722-linuxs-worst-case-scenario-microsoft-makes-secure-boot-mandatory-locks-out-other-operating-systems		Mar 21 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.extremetech.com \| Linux’s worst-case scenario: Windows 10 makes Secure Boot mandatory, locks out other operating systems \| ExtremeTech [ http://ur1.ca/jy8ul ]		Mar 21 03:17
schestowitz	"I'm scared to get a computer with UEFI, for fear that I can't boot into a decent OS."	Mar 21 03:17
schestowitz	So boycott UEFI. It's all a patent trap.	Mar 21 03:18
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Learn All The Basic Ubuntu Touch Tips And	Mar 21 03:51
TweetTuxMachines	Tricks With The Ubuntu Help App	Mar 21 03:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/4BViETnS0v (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 03:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Learn All The Basic Ubuntu Touch Tips And Tricks With The Ubuntu Help App \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 03:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core	Mar 21 03:51
TweetTuxMachines	Atom SoC http://t.co/qk30uS3c0f	Mar 21 03:51
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 03:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core Atom SoC \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 03:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Mozilla Releases Firefox 36.0.3 to Patch the	Mar 21 03:51
TweetTuxMachines	Security Vulnerabilities Disclosed at Pwn2Own	Mar 21 03:51
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qn0TLP4bTC (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 03:51
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cubexyz	balorg, looks interesting	Mar 21 03:52
cubexyz	balrog	Mar 21 03:52
*TweetTuxMachines @StephDAVOS favourited 'Pico-ITX SBC runs Linux on 1.9GHz quad-core Atom...'		Mar 21 03:57
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Extirpating systemd from Debian	Mar 21 03:57
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/7FbEw5LvMg	Mar 21 03:57
TweetTuxMachines	(multixden.blogspot.co.uk) "all my debian	Mar 21 03:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-multixden.blogspot.co.uk \| The Art is Long: Extirpating systemd from Debian		Mar 21 03:57
TweetTuxMachines	machines switched to systemd without my	Mar 21 03:57
TweetTuxMachines	consent"	Mar 21 03:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines In the market for a $40 Android tablet? Take a	Mar 21 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	look at the Jide Ultra Remix Android tablet	Mar 21 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/14hyucV3yg (www.digitaltrends.com)	Mar 21 04:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Get The Jide Ultra Remix Android Tablet for $40 \| Digital Trends		Mar 21 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/UsDe5zYPz1	Mar 21 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/579195902377611264	Mar 21 04:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 04:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Rhv5XRzz9W	Mar 21 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 04:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Wine 1.7.39 and CrossOver 14.1	Mar 21 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/FCHI6AeSet (www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 04:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Wine 1.7.39 and CrossOver 14.1 \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/n6PdR0cNCu	Mar 21 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 04:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Mar 21 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/MkyIaDcG7i	Mar 21 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 04:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Links 21/3/2015: Alpine Linux 3.1.3, Tizen TV	Mar 21 06:14
TweetTuxMachines	SDK 1.4 http://t.co/vhAgiQNle6 (techrights.org)	Mar 21 06:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux – Part I – The UEFI	Mar 21 07:38
TweetTuxMachines	Attack on GNU/Linux http://t.co/Ln27NVKXJE	Mar 21 07:38
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Mar 21 07:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part I – The UEFI Attack on GNU/Linux \| Techrights		Mar 21 07:39
cubexyz	ASUS EeeBox also has permanently embedded Linux	Mar 21 07:55
cubexyz	ok, 2014/2015 is a new era... you can go to the local store and buy a Linux computer	Mar 21 07:57
cubexyz	vast improvement over previous years	Mar 21 07:57
cubexyz	also CybertronPC LyNX1 Desktop PC with AMD Athlon 5150 Linux Ubuntu 12.1 available for $350	Mar 21 08:02
cubexyz	I guess 12.1 is a bit old but still, no windows tax	Mar 21 08:04
cubexyz	I don't think systemd was added to Ubuntu until 15.04	Mar 21 08:05
XRevan86	What's Ubuntu 12.1?	Mar 21 08:07
XRevan86	cubexyz: Do you mean 12.10 or 12.04?	Mar 21 08:07
cubexyz	yes sorry, 12.10	Mar 21 08:09
cubexyz	Quantal Quetzal	Mar 21 08:09
cubexyz	the ad on the web page for Canada Computers listed it as 12.1	Mar 21 08:10
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cubexyz	ugh, sorry not Canada Computers... Tigerdirect.ca	Mar 21 08:10
XRevan86	12.10 is an insane choice anyway.	Mar 21 08:11
XRevan86	which means how much do they care	Mar 21 08:11
cubexyz	it seems that's what the eee box and CybertronPC come with	Mar 21 08:11
cubexyz	not my first choice either :)	Mar 21 08:12
XRevan86	Even in 2012/2013 it would be much more wise to choose 12.04 than 12.10.	Mar 21 08:13
cubexyz	I'm curious if they are selling the windows CybertronPC for less though	Mar 21 08:13
cubexyz	if they are the same specs	Mar 21 08:14
cubexyz	ah, they have perfect option for us... no OS :)	Mar 21 08:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: What's the difference with Ubuntu? :)	Mar 21 08:15
XRevan86	Obsolete Ubuntu costs as much as no OS at all.	Mar 21 08:15
cubexyz	well I'm thinking at least it should work well with Linux	Mar 21 08:16
cubexyz	I probably would check out Ubuntu for 3 minutes then delete it	Mar 21 08:16
XRevan86	Also I've seen a laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled which… actually has problems (broadcom).	Mar 21 08:16
XRevan86	So having a preinstalled OS does not always mean that it'll work.	Mar 21 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux – Part II – Patent	Mar 21 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	Lawsuits Against Android/Linux Still Going On,	Mar 21 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	New Ones Filed	Mar 21 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/smqye9zeJV (techrights.org)	Mar 21 08:17
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part II – Patent Lawsuits Against Android/Linux Still Going On, New Ones Filed \| Techrights		Mar 21 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux - Part III - Abducting	Mar 21 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	the Competition (Android)	Mar 21 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/CzWkeH6aOg (techrights.org)	Mar 21 08:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux – Part IV – Deleting,	Mar 21 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	Attacking Android/Linux From Within	Mar 21 08:17
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/nBMn4kILhu (techrights.org)	Mar 21 08:17
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XRevan86	cubexyz: And LinpusOS which was preinstalled on my mothers laptop didn't even work out of the box (misconfiguration).	Mar 21 08:18
cubexyz	hmmm, what was wrong with it?	Mar 21 08:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: Old Linux kernel had problems with modeset on that laptop.	Mar 21 08:19
XRevan86	so they had to append nomodeset to GRUB or use a more fresh OS	Mar 21 08:19
XRevan86	but out of the box… vivu la kernel panic	Mar 21 08:19
cubexyz	wow that's not good	Mar 21 08:19
XRevan86	cubexyz: Good part is that I don't believe in OEM anyway.	Mar 21 08:21
cubexyz	a bit hard to avoid OEM for laptops	Mar 21 08:21
cubexyz	of course you can always assemble your own desktop/tower	Mar 21 08:22
XRevan86	cubexyz: These "Linux"'s and FreeDOS's they ship are as good as no OS.	Mar 21 08:22
XRevan86	Of course, if Windows is shipped or even required, things get more complicated.	Mar 21 08:23
cubexyz	except if the PC ships with Linux at least you know that secureboot was turned off	Mar 21 08:23
cubexyz	or perhaps it doesn't have secureboot at all	Mar 21 08:24
XRevan86	cubexyz: Sure. Now it's even more actual.	Mar 21 08:24
XRevan86	cubexyz: Or not sure since some distros have SecureBoot keys so they'll work even without SecureBoot that can be disabled.	Mar 21 08:25
XRevan86	including Ubuntu	Mar 21 08:26
cubexyz	I guess that's a good thing	Mar 21 08:26
cubexyz	not really ideal though	Mar 21 08:26
XRevan86	> except if the PC ships with Linux at least you know that secureboot was turned off	Mar 21 08:26
XRevan86	cubexyz: Point is: no, you don't.	Mar 21 08:26
cubexyz	well, what about freedos? I doubt that has secureboot keys	Mar 21 08:27
XRevan86	cubexyz: It doesn't even support UEFI.	Mar 21 08:27
XRevan86	cubexyz: Still, I suspect, if SecureBoot will become an issue it wants to be, vendors will suddenly realize that FreeDOS sucks.	Mar 21 08:28
XRevan86	cubexyz: And so, one should check a laptop before buying it from now on.	Mar 21 08:31
cubexyz	couldn't you just boot from usb or something?	Mar 21 08:31
XRevan86	whether it has SecureBoot that can be disabled	Mar 21 08:31
cubexyz	definitely, it would be my first question	Mar 21 08:31
XRevan86	cubexyz: SecureBoot prevents unsigned booting from USB, too.	Mar 21 08:32
cubexyz	ah	Mar 21 08:32
cubexyz	well then it goes back to whether or not you can turn secureboot off	Mar 21 08:33
cubexyz	seems overly limiting to me	Mar 21 08:33
cubexyz	indeed, it seems like a control mechanism	Mar 21 08:33
cubexyz	but I know intel chromebooks have seabios, and that will boot freedos	Mar 21 08:34
XRevan86	cubexyz: Chromebooks will not have SecureBoot of course.	Mar 21 08:34
XRevan86	they have their own ways of restriction	Mar 21 08:35
cubexyz	have you ever seen a motherboard that had secureboot that couldn't be turned off?	Mar 21 08:35
XRevan86	cubexyz: No, Win10 is not released yet.	Mar 21 08:35
XRevan86	Win8 certification requires an option to disable SecureBoot.	Mar 21 08:37
XRevan86	I wonder what antimonopoly services will say.	Mar 21 08:38
XRevan86	I suspect nothing	Mar 21 08:38
schestowitz	[02:29] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I uninstalled Skype.	Mar 21 08:39
schestowitz	+1	Mar 21 08:39
cubexyz	what you mean like the US DOJ or European Union?	Mar 21 08:39
schestowitz	someone asked me to install it recently	Mar 21 08:39
schestowitz	I did not even reply	Mar 21 08:39
cubexyz	surely they will do something	Mar 21 08:39
XRevan86	cubexyz: Any.	Mar 21 08:39
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cubexyz	I'm assuming one could overwrite the firmware itself and put coreboot on	Mar 21 08:41
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XRevan86	cubexyz: On Chromebooks?	Mar 21 08:41
cubexyz	chromebooks or other motheboards	Mar 21 08:42
XRevan86	coreboot is very limited	Mar 21 08:42
XRevan86	one should choose what to buy carefully with looking at what coreboot supports	Mar 21 08:42
cubexyz	in the "old" days, I looked for socketed bios, pop it out and reprogram it	Mar 21 08:43
cubexyz	I guess Purism's Librem laptop was necessary	Mar 21 08:45
cubexyz	Dell has the M3800 mobile workstation, that comes with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS	Mar 21 08:52
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/579265044019568640	Mar 21 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz This is something that I discussed with a N Korean senior scientist. Works for Kim Jong. Which is better or worse ? @ruskin147		Mar 21 08:57
schestowitz	US is better by definition... of US media	Mar 21 08:57
cubexyz	Acer Veriton N2620G nettop, also shipped with freedos	Mar 21 08:58
cubexyz	not sure if they still sell that one	Mar 21 08:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Microsoft Hates Linux - Part V - Dumping and	Mar 21 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	Surveillance to Counter GNU/Linux Insurgence	Mar 21 09:01
TweetTuxMachines	http://t.co/qMlZlMkRd9 (techrights.org)	Mar 21 09:01
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/579265976526598144	Mar 21 09:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Microsoft Hates Linux – Part V – Dumping and Surveillance to Counter GNU/Linux Insurgence \| Techrights		Mar 21 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz @ruskin147 Yes. It's difficult if you are a media person. So many rules and regulations that stop you from publishing anything		Mar 21 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines How To Encrypt Cloud Storage Files & Folders In	Mar 21 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	Linux http://t.co/Muv2EObeDg	Mar 21 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Mar 21 09:02
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579273055706320896 https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579273276444184576	Mar 21 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz @WIRED huh this has been around since 1989. Not sure this is new news. What are tools of 2015		Mar 21 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz @WIRED why is wide band spectrum analysis banned in P act		Mar 21 09:31
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579275575560249344	Mar 21 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz it ain't the NSA. It's the people providing the funding who need to go		Mar 21 09:40
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579280458573217792	Mar 21 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz worked for DOC NIST NSA. The men working there are not evil or anti freedom.fraternity of politicos needs to be placed on rack		Mar 21 09:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579280866834137088	Mar 21 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz I think the focus is on the tool not the tool user. Our national complacency and ignorance has enabled these fools to rule us		Mar 21 09:59
schestowitz	"@harry_haller It's so true what you say. Tomorrow it's you or me. So the people (chosen by us) who should protect us are only frightening us and are able to put us away whenever they want."	Mar 21 10:00
schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5795736	Mar 21 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "13,000 deaths, the CIA’s role in the anthrax attacks...explored plans to put anthrax..drum up support for the war." http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidkushner/matt-dehart?utm_term=.blLjjq5Vj#.mi38YzewQl		Mar 21 10:00
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/579281266454888448	Mar 21 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz I leave it at free all the data regardless of consequences the people controlling it now have long lost moral high ground		Mar 21 10:02
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5797838	Mar 21 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: Unable to beat Linux, Microsoft tries dirty tricks http://is.gd/oEkWPe . Need for free hardware strengthens.		Mar 21 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com \| Windows 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality \| Ars Technica		Mar 21 10:03
schestowitz	"Maybe this will launch a whole new industry of Linux pre-loaded PCs, i.e. the end of the era of buying a Windows machine and then installing linux. This could be Microsoft shooting themselves in the foot."	Mar 21 10:03
schestowitz	This is wishful thinking	Mar 21 10:04
cubexyz	well it's always correct to say "Microsoft tries dirty tricks" :)	Mar 21 10:04
cubexyz	this effects a lot of different groups like Plan 9, the BSDs, AROS, Minix, ReactOS, etc	Mar 21 10:07
cubexyz	it's utter nonsense that all these operating systems will get locked out	Mar 21 10:08
cubexyz	what if you are developing a research project for your own OS?	Mar 21 10:09
cubexyz	the whole idea of secure boot is madness	Mar 21 10:09
cubexyz	they could have done something smart... like hard drives with a jumper setting to make the boot sector read-only	Mar 21 10:11
XRevan86	cubexyz: UEFI doesn't have a boot sector.	Mar 21 10:11
XRevan86	http://fi8.eu.apcdn.com/full/126411.jpg	Mar 21 10:13
XRevan86	cubexyz: own OS? That's not Windows therefore should not live.	Mar 21 10:14
cubexyz	XRevan86, I beleive MIT has an operating system development course	Mar 21 10:14
XRevan86	cubexyz: So obsolete	Mar 21 10:15
cubexyz	all such courses are going to devote a certain amount of time to historical overviews of operating systems	Mar 21 10:18
cubexyz	got to start at the beginning	Mar 21 10:18
XRevan86	cubexyz: Anyway, if they want to teach non-Windows OS development (for historical reasons?), they can use Microsoft Windows 10 with Microsoft Hyper-V for virtualization.	Mar 21 10:18
schestowitz	XRevan86: heh	Mar 21 10:23
schestowitz	Seen it before	Mar 21 10:23
cubexyz	the 'oddball' OSes have hardware lists, e.g. QNX, Plan 9, etc	Mar 21 10:24
schestowitz	Apple fits better	Mar 21 10:24
schestowitz	with its 'i' things	Mar 21 10:24
cubexyz	no one is going to want to get locked out	Mar 21 10:24
schestowitz	two OSes, OSuX and hypeOS	Mar 21 10:24
schestowitz	Google has ChromeOS and Android	Mar 21 10:24
schestowitz	Microsoft has, well... Windows{r)	Mar 21 10:24
schestowitz	but used to have Windows Mobile	Mar 21 10:24
cubexyz	I'm sure IBM isn't going to use Windows 10 on their mainframes	Mar 21 10:25
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cubexyz	everyone will just have to be a bit more observant	Mar 21 10:26
cubexyz	I assume what will actually happen is that all or at least most motherboards will have an option to turn off secure boot	Mar 21 10:28
schestowitz	wb zoobab	Mar 21 10:28
XRevan86	cubexyz: Or so it seems.	Mar 21 10:28
XRevan86	since Microsoft made that move, they've made it for something	Mar 21 10:29
XRevan86	I've seen a suggestion that it's for making top laptops SecureBoot-only.	Mar 21 10:30
cubexyz	there's been cases of firmware hardcoded for Windows... on certain Lenovo laptops	Mar 21 10:31
cubexyz	so it's a reasonable concern	Mar 21 10:32
cubexyz	I know FSF runs a fair bit of old hardware, as I do	Mar 21 10:33
cubexyz	there could also be UEFI motherboards without secureboot	Mar 21 10:36
MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/w4cgjdU.jpg	Mar 21 10:36
cubexyz	another problem is the microcontroller in the chipset itself often needs a signed firmware binary	Mar 21 10:41
cubexyz	I don't think even google has this intel source code	Mar 21 10:42
cubexyz	but... here's the thing... a bunch of firmware code is in the wild already	Mar 21 10:44
cubexyz	I hear that microsoft tools are nearly always used, so yes Microsoft without a doubt has a lot of influence	Mar 21 10:46
cubexyz	the leaks I know about are 1999 award bios and 2011 AMI firmware code	Mar 21 10:47
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cubexyz	gluglug offers an aftermarket service.. you send your Thinkpad (only certain models) and gluglug will put libreboot firmware on it	Mar 21 10:54
cubexyz	also you get Atheros AR5B95 wifi adapter installed, so you can use linux drivers for wifi without needing any binary blobs	Mar 21 10:55
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MinceR	geekins	Mar 21 11:45
MinceR	geekings	Mar 21 11:45
XRevan86	MinceR: hi	Mar 21 11:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @Pinekatz What's broken can't be fixed without changing the system imo. At this point I'd never ever advice Americans to 1/2		Mar 21 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaatje36: @schestowitz @Pinekatz give up their guns. We're already at corporatism stage; fullblown fascism is next. 2/2		Mar 21 13:01
cubexyz	https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/voltera/voltera-your-circuit-board-prototyping-machine/comments	Mar 21 13:10
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msb_	cubexyz: Does that PCB maker machine work with boards that have wiring on top and bottom, and a ground-plane in the middle?	Mar 21 13:51
cubexyz	msb_, I was just told about it by a Waterloo employee today	Mar 21 13:53
cubexyz	there's more info at:	Mar 21 13:53
cubexyz	http://www.voltera.io	Mar 21 13:53
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msb_	cubexyz: I don't see the answer there. From the terminology they use, I think my question would seem very stupid to them. I've never made a PCB.	Mar 21 13:55
cubexyz	it's a two layer board so you could be right	Mar 21 13:56
msb_	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR-4	Mar 21 13:57
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msb_	doesn't say anything about a ground plane	Mar 21 13:57
msb_	don't you need a ground plane for high speed (computer) circuitry	Mar 21 13:58
msb_	?	Mar 21 13:58
msb_	to avoid crosstalk between nearby traces	Mar 21 13:59
cubexyz	no I think you're right	Mar 21 14:00
cubexyz	every motherboard has a ground plane	Mar 21 14:00
msb_	a power plane is nice too	Mar 21 14:00
msb_	I think mobos are about 6 layer	Mar 21 14:00
cubexyz	it's copper foil usually	Mar 21 14:01
cubexyz	not sure what Voltera does	Mar 21 14:01
msb_	I think they just make the fab machine (for about $1800). You buy the boards elsewhere.	Mar 21 14:02
cubexyz	there's blank boards of different sizes	Mar 21 14:04
msb_	with a groundplane the traces act like transmission lines. Without it they act like antennas.	Mar 21 14:04
cubexyz	you get a few blank boards with it	Mar 21 14:05
cubexyz	beats wire wrapping :)	Mar 21 14:08
cubexyz	I wonder how long it took DEC to make a PDP-11	Mar 21 14:09
msb_	I thought God created the PDP-11 and DEC just sold them.	Mar 21 14:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Xiaomi Mi Note is the best 'made in China'	Mar 21 17:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Plague Inc: Evolved Now In Beta For Linux	Mar 21 18:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines Calibre 2.22 Officially Released, Offers Faster	Mar 21 18:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines GNOME Tweak Tool Updated for GNOME 3.16 with	Mar 21 18:00
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Aungaungsittwe/status/579436002558644224	Mar 21 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Aungaungsittwe: @schestowitz In some places, Pentagon fight against #terrorism but in some like in #Myanmar,it praise #terrorism as if #democracy reform,why		Mar 21 20:18
msb_	http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/18/washingtons-war-on-russia/	Mar 21 22:24
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MinceR	pity the galaxy s6* aren't even waterproof	Mar 21 22:53
MinceR	also, they have no memory card slot or removable battery	Mar 21 22:53
MinceR	all that for an impractical metal frame and counterproductive glass back	Mar 21 22:54
DaemonFC	http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx1BMCY4KYRRZF2	Mar 21 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com \| Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The Indiana government wants to destroy a Native American burial site to construct a pointless reservoir. [ http://ur1.ca/jygp7 ]		Mar 21 23:07
DaemonFC	J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:	Mar 21 23:08
DaemonFC	The Republicans remind me of that pet shop in that episode of South Park.	Mar 21 23:08
DaemonFC	"You built your pet shop on an Indian burial ground!?"	Mar 21 23:08
DaemonFC	Shop Owner: "Yeah, but it's OK. I dug them up, urinated on them, and stuck them back in the ground upside down first."	Mar 21 23:08
MinceR	http://qdb.us/301866	Mar 21 23:17
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