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| MinceR | pity the galaxy s6* aren't even waterproof | Mar 22 02:53 |
| MinceR | also, they have no memory card slot or removable battery | Mar 22 02:54 |
| MinceR | all that for an impractical metal frame and counterproductive glass back | Mar 22 02:54 |
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| DaemonFC | The Republicans remind me of that pet shop in that episode of South Park. | Mar 22 03:08 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Aungaungsittwe/status/579436002558644224 | Mar 22 08:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: good morning... | Mar 22 08:09 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't know if I'm going to upgrade my phone or not this year. | Mar 22 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | I might just switch to a cheaper plan and keep it for another year or two. It'll be paid for. | Mar 22 09:41 |
| cubexyz | UEFI and HDMI both have nasty stuff embedded inside them | Mar 22 10:11 |
| cubexyz | there's a general attack on computing now | Mar 22 10:11 |
| cubexyz | even TVO uses DRM, it's a bad joke | Mar 22 10:12 |
| cubexyz | educational shows with DRM | Mar 22 10:12 |
| cubexyz | and if you have an older HDTV which is not HDCP compliant you can't watch some shows at all | Mar 22 10:14 |
| cubexyz | Bell is using silverlight for online content... | Mar 22 10:14 |
| cubexyz | it's a frigging mess | Mar 22 10:14 |
| cubexyz | they're trying to turn everything into an unknowable black box | Mar 22 10:22 |
| cubexyz | it will probably be the case that we need to avoid devices with "designed for windows 8/10/etc" | Mar 22 10:28 |
| cubexyz | look for ones without the sticker | Mar 22 10:28 |
| cubexyz | in fact, I could argue that there is actually two different Microsoft Taxes now | Mar 22 10:29 |
| cubexyz | the preloaded windows and the firmware itself | Mar 22 10:29 |
| cubexyz | it's obvious from the leaked firmware code that it's all heavily microsoft-oriented | Mar 22 10:30 |
| cubexyz | looking back into the history of BIOS I've found that originally this was not the case | Mar 22 10:33 |
| cubexyz | but soon afterwards guess what happened? | Mar 22 10:35 |
| cubexyz | IBM used microsoft assembler | Mar 22 10:35 |
| cubexyz | originally it was Intel ASM86 for the IBM PC | Mar 22 10:35 |
| cubexyz | IBM PC AT BIOS was assembled by MASM 1.0 under DOS | Mar 22 10:36 |
| cubexyz | so even in the BIOS era Microsoft had a lot of influence, it's not something that just started recently | Mar 22 10:37 |
| cubexyz | to get away from Microsoft's influence you need to go outside of the x86 world | Mar 22 10:38 |
| cubexyz | ROM BASIC source code has never been published | Mar 22 10:40 |
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| cubexyz | if OEMs want the "made for windows" sticker ... the obvious next step for Microsoft is to pressure them to make it impossible to disable secure boot | Mar 22 10:44 |
| cubexyz | Fedora's using a microsoft key isn't a good answer at all | Mar 22 10:46 |
| cubexyz | an example of the recent situation: | Mar 22 10:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/secure-boot.txt | Mar 22 10:48 |
| cubexyz | I think Matthew Garrett has a method that will delete all existing keys and replace them with your own keys | Mar 22 10:58 |
| cubexyz | you could even create a system that will boot Fedora and not windows | Mar 22 10:58 |
| cubexyz | unfortunately there are Microsoft signed UEFI drivers for graphics cards | Mar 22 10:59 |
| schestowitz | NewsCorp http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/cias-post-torture-report-focus-on-digital-could-change-how-australia-fights-terrorism/story-fnpjxnlk-1227258069539 | Mar 22 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.news.com.au | CIA torture report: US spy agency to focus on digital [ http://ur1.ca/jyjla ] | Mar 22 11:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/digital_human/status/579608074731831297 | Mar 22 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@digital_human: @schestowitz @wikileaks maybe?..... :-} | Mar 22 11:44 | |
| schestowitz | I know about #germany involvement, not Sweden | Mar 22 11:44 |
| msb_ | Maybe one way to fight back against all these UEFI-type attacks is to choose a good state-of-the-art sweet-spot CPU, like the AMD FX-8350, and a good mobo company like ASUS, and choose a good Nvidia graphics card, and get these companies to make a non- cpu, mobo, graphics combination -- each about $150-200 -- so Linux users | Mar 22 12:02 |
| msb_ | Maybe one way to fight back against all these UEFI-type attacks is to choose a good state-of-the-art sweet-spot CPU, like the AMD FX-8350, and a good mobo company like ASUS, and choose a good Nvidia graphics card, and get these companies to make a non-DRM cpu, mobo, graphics combination -- each about $150-200 -- so Linux users users could build a good desktop computer. | Mar 22 12:03 |
| msb_ | It's easy enough to assemble a desktop. I always do it. And if each component costs $150-200, then the price/performance of the whole thing is optimized, and if one of the parts goes bad you can afford to buy a replacement for it. | Mar 22 12:04 |
| msb_ | Desktop mobos and cabinets use a standard form-factor -- I forget what it's called -- so it's easy to find a cabinet and power supply. | Mar 22 12:06 |
| cubexyz | there's only really three players in the UEFI game: | Mar 22 12:08 |
| msb_ | The point is, by settling on one good design for a general-purpose Linux computer (which of course would work for BSD too), we could make it worthwhile for these companies to manufacture what we need for it, regardless of Microsoft's attacks. | Mar 22 12:08 |
| cubexyz | Insyde, Phoenix and AMI | Mar 22 12:09 |
| msb_ | Or just get ASUS to make a mobo with a socketed ROM, so we can put CoreBoot in it. | Mar 22 12:10 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure what the deal is with UEFI and sockets | Mar 22 12:10 |
| msb_ | EPROM burners are cheap. LUGs could each have one and burn the EPROMs, | Mar 22 12:11 |
| cubexyz | most of the new stuff I fear is surface mounted | Mar 22 12:12 |
| cubexyz | it's not a problem for old stuff (yes back to old stuff again) | Mar 22 12:12 |
| msb_ | Get ASUS to make one good AMD mobo with a socket that just disregards UEFI. | Mar 22 12:12 |
| msb_ | These mobos would NOT be designed to run | Mar 22 12:12 |
| msb_ | These mobos would NOT be designed to run Windows. | Mar 22 12:12 |
| msb_ | So would not need UEFI at all. | Mar 22 12:13 |
| msb_ | ASUS would just have to make one good mobo for an AMD FX-8350 with an EPROM socket, and hundreds of thousands of Linux users would buy it. | Mar 22 12:15 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/digital_human/status/579616839585669120 | Mar 22 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@digital_human: @schestowitz @wikileaks well there is a lot going on in Sweden atm in relation to the US. | Mar 22 12:15 | |
| cubexyz | I wonder what will happen if you change your motherboard on Windows 10 | Mar 22 12:15 |
| cubexyz | your UEFI will change | Mar 22 12:16 |
| cubexyz | so do you have to reinstall the OS? | Mar 22 12:16 |
| msb_ | I think there must be lots of people who never want to run Windows at all. | Mar 22 12:16 |
| msb_ | I haven't used it for 20 years. | Mar 22 12:17 |
| cubexyz | there are some who will replace the mobo though | Mar 22 12:17 |
| cubexyz | right... just thinking about my customers | Mar 22 12:17 |
| msb_ | Get your customers to switch to Linux. | Mar 22 12:17 |
| cubexyz | I'd love to say all my customers are linux/bsd/plan 9 | Mar 22 12:17 |
| cubexyz | oh I try to do that :) | Mar 22 12:17 |
| cubexyz | some of them have chromebooks and Linux desktops | Mar 22 12:18 |
| cubexyz | msb_, I don't think you can avoid UEFI, all motherboards have that now | Mar 22 12:18 |
| cubexyz | to avoid UEFI and use old BIOS you need old hardware | Mar 22 12:19 |
| XRevan86 | (15:15:50) cubexyz: I wonder what will happen if you change your motherboard on Windows 10 | Mar 22 12:20 |
| XRevan86 | (15:16:05) cubexyz: your UEFI will change | Mar 22 12:20 |
| XRevan86 | What do you mean? | Mar 22 12:20 |
| msb_ | I'm saying get a lot of Linux users to promise ASUS that they will buy a non-UEFI mobo with an EPROM socket. Thus make it profitable for ASUS to make one. | Mar 22 12:20 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, will it still run the OS | Mar 22 12:20 |
| msb_ | Linux and BSD users | Mar 22 12:21 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: If Windows was OEM, it'll become unactivated because key is stored in ACPI. | Mar 22 12:21 |
| XRevan86 | (actually, it'll become unactivated anyway because changing motherboard triggers that but if it's not OEM Microsoft will allow to reactivate it) | Mar 22 12:21 |
| cubexyz | the graphics chipset could be different too | Mar 22 12:21 |
| cubexyz | so would it even run? | Mar 22 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | Graphics is not a problem. | Mar 22 12:22 |
| cubexyz | I guess it could go into safe mode or something | Mar 22 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yeah | Mar 22 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | Nothing UEFI-specific in all that. | Mar 22 12:23 |
| msb_ | People who just do general purpose computing do not need Windows. There's enough FOSS to give them everything they need. | Mar 22 12:24 |
| msb_ | Commercial users who are using windows-specific programs can try to get the vendors to make them run under WINE. | Mar 22 12:25 |
| cubexyz | PMON is still referred to as a "BIOS" | Mar 22 12:25 |
| cubexyz | so Lemote might not have UEFI | Mar 22 12:25 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: UEFI is a BIOS you know. | Mar 22 12:25 |
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| msb_ | Gamers can either stay with MS or pressure the vendors to make Linux or WINE versions. | Mar 22 12:26 |
| msb_ | IT'S TIME TO FIGHT FASCISM IN THE REALM OF PCS, AND THIS IS A WAY TO DO IT. | Mar 22 12:26 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, everyone says that UEFI is the replacment for BIOS | Mar 22 12:26 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's a marketing way of saying things. | Mar 22 12:26 |
| cubexyz | e.g. it doesn't have the old limits of 16-bit mode and 1 megabyte of addressable memory | Mar 22 12:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yes, because UEFI suggest an other way for booting. | Mar 22 12:28 |
| XRevan86 | as a replacement for MBR ("Legacy BIOS") | Mar 22 12:28 |
| msb_ | If ASUS won't make one socketed non-UEFI mobo because they don't want to piss off microsoft, they could secretly license the requisite mobo design to some PCB fab company and they could make and sell it. | Mar 22 12:29 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Still, every known BIOS for know support booting via MBR. | Mar 22 12:29 |
| XRevan86 | for now* | Mar 22 12:29 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what the folks in the local computer stores would say if I asked for a mobo with socketed UEFI | Mar 22 12:30 |
| cubexyz | I'd probably get a blank stare | Mar 22 12:30 |
| cubexyz | I think there are all surface mount nowadays | Mar 22 12:30 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I don't know what socketed BIOS is, too %). | Mar 22 12:31 |
| cubexyz | eh? It's pin in hole package you can remove | Mar 22 12:31 |
| cubexyz | like a DIP | Mar 22 12:31 |
| cubexyz | dual in-line package | Mar 22 12:32 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What's the point for modern BIOS's? | Mar 22 12:32 |
| XRevan86 | which are reprogrammable | Mar 22 12:32 |
| msb_ | It's a ZIF socket like for the CPU, but smaller. | Mar 22 12:32 |
| cubexyz | programmable under Plan 9? programmable under any OS? | Mar 22 12:32 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: By the way, have you heard that UEFI is going to standardize reprogramming of BIOS's? | Mar 22 12:33 |
| cubexyz | of course it's not, because you have no utility | Mar 22 12:33 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: with modern Linux, the current BIOSes don't impose any limits on disk or memory size, right? Because Linux doesn't even use the BIOS after bootup. | Mar 22 12:34 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Um, what? | Mar 22 12:35 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, how is it going to do that without an external programmer? | Mar 22 12:35 |
| cubexyz | standardize unde windows maybe | Mar 22 12:35 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: In a way it works now. | Mar 22 12:35 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That means one can write an utility all by himself. | Mar 22 12:36 |
| cubexyz | ok, that's a fair point | Mar 22 12:36 |
| cubexyz | but more difficult surely | Mar 22 12:36 |
| msb_ | I'm asking whether current BIOS will be good for bigger disks and RAM sizes in the foreseeable future for Linux. | Mar 22 12:36 |
| cubexyz | obviously if I can remove the chip (whatever it is) I save myself from a bricked motherboard if something goes wrong or I'm in the middle of development | Mar 22 12:37 |
| msb_ | It's a very basic question. | Mar 22 12:37 |
| cubexyz | msb_, there's a limit, I forget exactly what it is | Mar 22 12:37 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I'm trying to understand how can it be not %). | Mar 22 12:37 |
| cubexyz | my first coreboot project I bricked the board several times | Mar 22 12:38 |
| cubexyz | so I removed the flash rom and reprogrammed it again until I got it working | Mar 22 12:39 |
| msb_ | On Linux bootup, all the BIOS has to access is the MBR on one disk, right? So that disk could be 1000TB and it could still do it. | Mar 22 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's with MBR, right. | Mar 22 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Oh, I see what limitation you're talking about. | Mar 22 12:40 |
| XRevan86 | it's a limitation not in BIOS but in a MBR partition table itself | Mar 22 12:40 |
| msb_ | So we don't even need a BIOS socket. We just need ASUS to keep making an AMD-CPU mobo with the current BIOS. | Mar 22 12:41 |
| cubexyz | I'd still rather have the source code for my firmware | Mar 22 12:41 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: So you'll get no limitation neither with UEFI bootup (because it recommends GPT by default) nor with MBR bootup with GPT partition table | Mar 22 12:41 |
| msb_ | But Linux -- grub or whatever -- can write whatever we want in the MBR. | Mar 22 12:41 |
| msb_ | So GPT can handle any huge disks or RAM size we will be using in the foreseeable future -- before the Singularity? | Mar 22 12:44 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's not about handling. | Mar 22 12:44 |
| msb_ | what then? | Mar 22 12:45 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: MBR partition table can't bear long size numbers | Mar 22 12:45 |
| XRevan86 | it's too small and unextendable | Mar 22 12:45 |
| msb_ | So isn't there a substitute for MBR used by Linux for big disks? | Mar 22 12:45 |
| XRevan86 | > On GPT for disks with 512-byte sectors, maximum size is 9.4 ZB | Mar 22 12:45 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's GPT. | Mar 22 12:46 |
| cubexyz | it's probably some silly coding limitation | Mar 22 12:46 |
| XRevan86 | GRUB can work with GPT without UEFI on MBR bootup. | Mar 22 12:46 |
| cubexyz | there's no reason why things couldn't be modded to work with bigger drives | Mar 22 12:47 |
| msb_ | OK, I'm happy with 9.4ZB. That's probably enough for me to upload into. | Mar 22 12:47 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Not with MBR for sure. | Mar 22 12:48 |
| XRevan86 | unless you use some hack with partitioning | Mar 22 12:48 |
| XRevan86 | but you can aswell use GPT :) | Mar 22 12:48 |
| cubexyz | right, that's probably why no one bothered (that I know of) | Mar 22 12:49 |
| msb_ | OK, now please summarize for me, because I don't know this stuff. Linux can now write a GPT on a huge disk, and plenty of mobos now will use it. Is that right? | Mar 22 12:49 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: What's a mobo? | Mar 22 12:50 |
| msb_ | motherboard | Mar 22 12:50 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I think I need a more abstract way of telling things :) | Mar 22 12:50 |
| msb_ | Esperanto? | Mar 22 12:51 |
| XRevan86 | MBR is an old standard for storing boot information including partition table and execution code (bootloader). | Mar 22 12:51 |
| msb_ | I understand that. | Mar 22 12:52 |
| XRevan86 | it has a size of 512 bytes where first 446 are the bootloader | Mar 22 12:52 |
| msb_ | And GPT is a new standard that works for much bigger disks, right? | Mar 22 12:52 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, point is that partition table in MBR has a limitation of size in 2 TiB | Mar 22 12:52 |
| XRevan86 | GPT is a partition table that has no such limitation | Mar 22 12:53 |
| cubexyz | btw the 512 byte boot loader predates microsoft | Mar 22 12:53 |
| msb_ | But LInux can write a GPT onto a drive, yes? | Mar 22 12:53 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: sure | Mar 22 12:53 |
| XRevan86 | UEFI standard prescibes to use GPT. | Mar 22 12:53 |
| XRevan86 | Without UEFI with MBR bootloading GRUB can work with GPT | Mar 22 12:54 |
| XRevan86 | and it can't load Windows because Windows sucks so very much it can't abstract GPT support code from UEFI support code. | Mar 22 12:54 |
| cubexyz | in the old days you had uboot.s and assembled that to generate the 512 byte boot loader | Mar 22 12:55 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: 446 byte :) | Mar 22 12:55 |
| cubexyz | ok, but the file itself is 512 bytes | Mar 22 12:56 |
| cubexyz | I know because I assembled it | Mar 22 12:56 |
| msb_ | So as long as ASUS continues to make one good mobo for AMD CPUs (fuck Intel) that can take 32GB or so of DDR3 RAM, and has a UEFI/BIOS/whatever-you-call it that can access a GPT, then Linux users are OK. Is that right? | Mar 22 12:56 |
| cubexyz | the partition table is 64 bytes yes | Mar 22 12:57 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Maybe it also has the partition table for some reason? | Mar 22 12:57 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, it does yes | Mar 22 12:57 |
| XRevan86 | don't see a reason to put it into a file for flashing | Mar 22 12:57 |
| XRevan86 | dd doesn't care whether to copy 446 or 512 bytes. | Mar 22 12:57 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Linux users are okay in either way :). | Mar 22 12:58 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: either? | Mar 22 12:58 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Linux user can use GPT everywhere. | Mar 22 12:59 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, all the PDP-11 documents say to load 512 bytes into locations 0-776 then start program execution at 0 | Mar 22 12:59 |
| cubexyz | I think the only different way is paper tape | Mar 22 13:00 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Maybe they also hack the partition table and put it into that file. | Mar 22 13:00 |
| XRevan86 | or not file | Mar 22 13:00 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Do you actually _have_ a PDP-11, not just some simulator or FPGA version? | Mar 22 13:00 |
| cubexyz | it is a file... the assembled uboot.s | Mar 22 13:00 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Because I think you should get one. | Mar 22 13:01 |
| msb_ | It's your nirvana. | Mar 22 13:01 |
| msb_ | Get one with VM so it will run Linux. | Mar 22 13:01 |
| XRevan86 | My point is that when you already have a MBR record, you don't have to touch last bytes just to alter first 446 | Mar 22 13:02 |
| msb_ | It can be argued that the PDP-11 instruction set is the best ever designed, right? | Mar 22 13:03 |
| cubexyz | msb_, I think it's important that people know there's a history of computers that has nothing to do with microsoft | Mar 22 13:04 |
| msb_ | And I'll bet modern Linux is so modular that you could make the kernel run on a PDP-11. | Mar 22 13:04 |
| cubexyz | real PDP-11's are hard to come by now | Mar 22 13:04 |
| msb_ | You can't get an old 11/70 for $5K or so? | Mar 22 13:04 |
| cubexyz | well for 5 grand yes, maybe $2K would be enough | Mar 22 13:05 |
| msb_ | I knew a guy who had a DG Eclipse in his garage. | Mar 22 13:05 |
| cubexyz | but it would be power hungry and the mag core could be troublesome, so I run simh instead | Mar 22 13:05 |
| msb_ | Well, shit, snap it up, along with whatever spares you can find. | Mar 22 13:05 |
| cubexyz | I was thinking microvax would be better, rather than an old PDP-11 | Mar 22 13:06 |
| cubexyz | we'll see | Mar 22 13:06 |
| msb_ | 11/70s still used core mem? | Mar 22 13:06 |
| cubexyz | early ones did | Mar 22 13:06 |
| cubexyz | later ones probably not | Mar 22 13:06 |
| cubexyz | there were several versions | Mar 22 13:07 |
| cubexyz | SSI CPU would be interesting to have | Mar 22 13:07 |
| msb_ | Anyhow, it's probably just the driver chips that go out on those, and they're easy to replace. I've done it. | Mar 22 13:07 |
| cubexyz | microvax I could get for $300 maybe | Mar 22 13:08 |
| msb_ | 12AX7 CPU even more interesting. | Mar 22 13:08 |
| msb_ | How fast are those? | Mar 22 13:08 |
| cubexyz | my timing was bad, I didn't appreciate the old tech when it was cheap | Mar 22 13:08 |
| msb_ | Is a microvax a single-chip cpu? | Mar 22 13:09 |
| cubexyz | depends on the model | Mar 22 13:09 |
| cubexyz | MicroVAX 3100 was KA41-A running at 11 mhz | Mar 22 13:09 |
| msb_ | So about 1/200th the speed of a modern cpu? | Mar 22 13:10 |
| msb_ | or less | Mar 22 13:10 |
| cubexyz | it's still VLSI | Mar 22 13:10 |
| msb_ | in mips or whatever | Mar 22 13:10 |
| cubexyz | so microprocessor | Mar 22 13:11 |
| cubexyz | SCSI 50 pin drives | Mar 22 13:12 |
| cubexyz | not that hard get those | Mar 22 13:12 |
| msb_ | but if it only does about one instruction per clock cycle, and has an 11MHz clock, while current cpus have an 8800 MHz clock (I'm guessing here) then a uvax is 1/800 of thespeed of a current cpu. | Mar 22 13:12 |
| msb_ | It could take 10 minutes for firefox to run up a page. | Mar 22 13:13 |
| cubexyz | well I figure it would be roughly similar to a 286 running Xenix | Mar 22 13:14 |
| cubexyz | maybe a bit slower | Mar 22 13:14 |
| cubexyz | well, not enough memory to run firefox, I wouldn't even consider it :) | Mar 22 13:15 |
| msb_ | A lot of progress has been made since then. | Mar 22 13:15 |
| cubexyz | maybe some text based browser | Mar 22 13:15 |
| cubexyz | I run emulated 2.11BSD which isn't bad, but no web browser | Mar 22 13:15 |
| cubexyz | it has tcp/ip with ftp, ntp, ping, telnet, and sendmail | Mar 22 13:17 |
| msb_ | Please, everybody, watch Transcendent Man (2009) and then Transcendence (2014). They will change your life! | Mar 22 13:17 |
| msb_ | Both can be found if you look for them. | Mar 22 13:18 |
| msb_ | We are Linux users. We are already outlaws! | Mar 22 13:19 |
| cubexyz | probably DEC Alpha would be closer to a modern CPU | Mar 22 13:20 |
| cubexyz | Alpha got phased out when Compaq bought DEC in 1998 | Mar 22 13:21 |
| cubexyz | so welcome to x86-only land | Mar 22 13:21 |
| msb_ | Antitrust (2001) is also a must-see. It is also available. Maybe it will convince some of your customers to switch from windows to Linux. | Mar 22 13:25 |
| cubexyz | they have hung around me long enough to know the score :) | Mar 22 13:26 |
| cubexyz | but I'll mention the movie to them | Mar 22 13:26 |
| cubexyz | as I said, they have started buying chromebooks (and a few have Fedora boxes) so it's a start | Mar 22 13:26 |
| cubexyz | I also sold some Dell laptops with Fedora and Windows | Mar 22 13:27 |
| cubexyz | it's interesting the historical prespective of different people | Mar 22 13:28 |
| cubexyz | the Sun guys used to think DEC was the "bad guy" | Mar 22 13:29 |
| msb_ | I think we should try to stay away from Fedora. systemd is another sabotage job against Linux. | Mar 22 13:29 |
| cubexyz | msb_, this was pre-systemd era | Mar 22 13:29 |
| msb_ | right | Mar 22 13:29 |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't suggest it now | Mar 22 13:29 |
| msb_ | No KDE4/5/Plasma either. That was designed to kill multiple named virtual desktops, one of the most important features of Linux. | Mar 22 13:30 |
| msb_ | Greatly improves mind extension via the computer. | Mar 22 13:31 |
| msb_ | Now use Trinity DE -- https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ | Mar 22 13:32 |
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| msb_ | Now use Trinity DE -- http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ | Mar 22 13:33 |
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| XRevan86 | http://maketecheasier.com/use-kde-plasma-activities | Mar 22 13:33 |
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| msb_ | Bot doesn't like https? | Mar 22 13:33 |
| XRevan86 | https://userbase.kde.org/Plasma#Activities | Mar 22 13:34 |
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| msb_ | XRevan86: How would I get 20 different _named_ "activities" (spit!) with a switcher applet in the same position in each one, and the names visible in the switcher buttons? Like I have in KDE3/Trinity. Because the KDE4 experts I talked to said they don't use lots of named desktops. | Mar 22 13:38 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: No idea, I don't have KDE around. | Mar 22 13:40 |
| msb_ | The german guy in charge of the KDE4 window manager wrote 4 or 5 web articles telling the Trinity people to go kill themselves (or at least the project). KDE4 is EVIL. | Mar 22 13:40 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Right, you can't. Because the desktop names are overwritten with garbage in the switcher applet buttons. | Mar 22 13:41 |
| msb_ | KDE4 and systemd are both designed to sabotage Linux. | Mar 22 13:41 |
| msb_ | I don't need a GD "dashboard" or different (or any) wallpapers. | Mar 22 13:43 |
| msb_ | And any "widgets" I want (whatever they mean by that) can be called via icons in a panel or with a script. | Mar 22 13:44 |
| msb_ | Ten years ago when I asked (intelligent) Linux users what feature was most important to them, they said multiple desktops in KDE3. | Mar 22 13:45 |
| msb_ | So KDE4 killed that. | Mar 22 13:46 |
| msb_ | Trinity DE is under active maintenance/development, is available for major distros, and the source is easily accessible. | Mar 22 13:49 |
| msb_ | If you have to load a few extra libraries for it, well, suck it! | Mar 22 13:49 |
| msb_ | That's why Linux is flexible. | Mar 22 13:49 |
| msb_ | So you can get the functionality you want. | Mar 22 13:50 |
| msb_ | And Trinity will never require systemd. | Mar 22 13:51 |
| msb_ | Alright, I will stop now and take a pill. | Mar 22 13:52 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I think I need to check Plasma 5 out :). | Mar 22 13:53 |
| msb_ | Be sure to run it with systemd! | Mar 22 13:54 |
| msb_ | and pulseaudio | Mar 22 13:54 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I have both. | Mar 22 13:54 |
| XRevan86 | And copy of my current environment is booted up. | Mar 22 13:56 |
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| cubexyz | msb_, in the 'old' days there was this: | Mar 22 14:31 |
| cubexyz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Mode | Mar 22 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | System Management Mode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jykrn ] | Mar 22 14:31 | |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Can you give a screenshot of your KDE? :) | Mar 22 14:32 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Interesting | Mar 22 14:34 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: what program records a whole screen? | Mar 22 14:41 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: scrot, ksnapshot, xfce4-screenshooter, mate-screenshoot… | Mar 22 14:42 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-plus-mwm-combo-png | Mar 22 14:42 |
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| cubexyz | there's one of mine :) | Mar 22 14:43 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: 404 :) | Mar 22 14:45 |
| cubexyz | I never used the system management daughter card | Mar 22 14:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-plus-mwm-combo.png | Mar 22 14:45 |
| cubexyz | typo | Mar 22 14:45 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, msb_ has special KDE with many desktops so I want to look at it | Mar 22 14:45 |
| XRevan86 | and mimic it if possible using modern Plasma | Mar 22 14:47 |
| cubexyz | with the SMDC card you can monitor your server even if the OS fails | Mar 22 14:49 |
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| msb_ | XRevan86: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/screenshot2.png | Mar 22 14:55 |
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| cubexyz | cool | Mar 22 14:57 |
| cubexyz | let's see a screenshot from XRevan86 | Mar 22 14:57 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/icewm-with-konsole.png | Mar 22 14:59 |
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| msb_ | It's plain old KDE3. Bottom panel (same in all desktops) has main menu and a few app icons, desktop switcher, notifiers, clockcal. Top panel is taskbar. Simple | Mar 22 15:00 |
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| msb_ | I have 139 user processes plus 24 instances of konsole (which all run out of a single process). | Mar 22 15:08 |
| msb_ | cpu usage is about 12%, mostly Firefox, which has 5 windows and hundreds of tabs | Mar 22 15:10 |
| msb_ | By leaving several konsole/mc instances running in each desktop, I have instant access to various (you should excuse the expression) activities within each desktop. All these use little or no cpu when I'm not using them. | Mar 22 15:13 |
| msb_ | For example, in the TVRec(ording) desktop I have the recorder (mencoder), the (ongoing instant) playback (mplayer), and an instance of top so I can get the PIDs of these and set their priorities high (since my old two-core cpu gets 90% used making xvids). | Mar 22 15:17 |
| msb_ | That's the desktop shown. | Mar 22 15:17 |
| msb_ | The TV recording and immediate playback are done with scripts that call mencoder and mplayer. I also have a direct tvview script that doesn't record. These all have interlocks to pass the name of the recorded file and avoid stepping on each other. | Mar 22 15:21 |
| msb_ | The TV card was about $25, 50% off at Fry's. 8^) | Mar 22 15:23 |
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| XRevan86 | Plasma 5 is horrible | Mar 22 15:24 |
| msb_ | Big surprise. | Mar 22 15:24 |
| XRevan86 | http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/15/0322/h_1427037930_5957915_15b7e415c6.png | Mar 22 15:25 |
| msb_ | See those rectangles in the switcher button for the Mail desktop? (Hey, you stole my desktop names!) Those rectangles are stupid window outlines, and once you have a few of them the desktop names in the buttons become unreadable. | Mar 22 15:28 |
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| cubexyz | haha | Mar 22 15:28 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Nope, still readable. And they are almost hidden when desktop is changed. | Mar 22 15:30 |
| msb_ | I hacked the switcher code to remove the rectangles, but the KDE4 devs weren't interested. They said they didn't use desktops at all, just "activities" (pfui!). | Mar 22 15:30 |
| cubexyz | here's a classy pre-microsoft picture: | Mar 22 15:31 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ibm-1401.jpg | Mar 22 15:31 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Your picture was taken with only two windows in one desktop. | Mar 22 15:31 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I know, I've checked afterwards | Mar 22 15:31 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I'll make another screenshot after I'd figure out how to remove cashews | Mar 22 15:32 |
| msb_ | Yeah, WTF are those for anyhow? | Mar 22 15:32 |
| cubexyz | snacks? | Mar 22 15:33 |
| cubexyz | :) | Mar 22 15:33 |
| msb_ | IBM-1401 -- 4 huge magtapes, a card reader and a lineprinter! | Mar 22 15:36 |
| cubexyz | yeah! | Mar 22 15:36 |
| cubexyz | and a huge console | Mar 22 15:37 |
| msb_ | This one stored everything in mercury delaylines in hyperspace: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/pc_of_future.jpg | Mar 22 15:37 |
| msb_ | And some storage tubes. | Mar 22 15:37 |
| cubexyz | mine pic is real :) | Mar 22 15:37 |
| cubexyz | my | Mar 22 15:38 |
| msb_ | And an IBM babe in a matching blue dress! | Mar 22 15:38 |
| cubexyz | with teletype interface and Fortran :) | Mar 22 15:39 |
| cubexyz | yeah they really went with lots of blue there | Mar 22 15:39 |
| cubexyz | I bet that old fart knows machine language :) | Mar 22 15:40 |
| XRevan86 | eh, scriptengines are not available in openSUSE for Plasma5 | Mar 22 15:40 |
| XRevan86 | can't tell if cashews are removable with old good extension or not | Mar 22 15:40 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Fortran at the very least! | Mar 22 15:42 |
| msb_ | KDE4 cashews are added crap just for the sake of adding crap. They do that a lot. | Mar 22 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | http://cdn.img42.com/e68c21072714a23731c73c07f1a7014d.png | Mar 22 15:44 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's what it's like to have windows on other desktops. | Mar 22 15:45 |
| msb_ | There was s--t in there I was never able to figure out, and that was only in version 4.6 | Mar 22 15:45 |
| msb_ | Try having 5 windows of various sizes in most of the desktops. | Mar 22 15:46 |
| msb_ | Since switching desktops is one of the most frequent things I do, I don't like having to deal with pointless eyestrain when I do it. | Mar 22 15:46 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: And make sure they overlap a lot. | Mar 22 15:48 |
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| msb_ | Doesn't Ubuntu have a store where they _sell_ apps? | Mar 22 15:50 |
| msb_ | KDE4 has some kind of icon in the panel that looks like a smashed up car, and when you click it most of the windows disappear. ?? Maybe it's actually a cashew covered in mold. | Mar 22 15:54 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I can't bear it anymore. | Mar 22 15:55 |
| msb_ | It's EVIL I tell you! | Mar 22 15:55 |
| msb_ | So why did every distro immediately adopt KDE4 and dump KDE3? (Except SuSE, which still keeps KDE3, at least it did in version 3.1.) | Mar 22 15:58 |
| msb_ | Just like every distro adopted systemd and dumped sysVinit. Did somebody threaten their families? | Mar 22 15:59 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: This is why I assign ZERO weight to the newer-is-better criterion. | Mar 22 16:01 |
| msb_ | It allows any saboteur to poetter around with your system. | Mar 22 16:01 |
| cubexyz | my point exactly | Mar 22 16:03 |
| cubexyz | newer is better... sometimes | Mar 22 16:05 |
| cubexyz | I remember one old guy going on and on about 1940s cars and how 1950s cars were rubbish | Mar 22 16:05 |
| msb_ | There are tens of thousands of people inventing useless new crap simply to justify their salaries. | Mar 22 16:05 |
| cubexyz | that's planned obsolescence | Mar 22 16:06 |
| cubexyz | it's been around quite a long time, but it's worse now | Mar 22 16:06 |
| msb_ | immediate obsolescence | Mar 22 16:06 |
| cubexyz | I still have my 1997 laserjet | Mar 22 16:07 |
| cubexyz | works good | Mar 22 16:07 |
| msb_ | it's crapitalism | Mar 22 16:07 |
| cubexyz | some of my DEC crazy associates have decwriters | Mar 22 16:08 |
| cubexyz | then I hear about the opposite, one shoe repair guy still uses 1920s technology | Mar 22 16:08 |
| cubexyz | no reason you have to use latest and greatest | Mar 22 16:09 |
| msb_ | The steam-powered shoe buffers were the best! | Mar 22 16:10 |
| cubexyz | a shoe iron doesn't really wear out | Mar 22 16:11 |
| msb_ | I watched a very weird anime' yesterday called Steamboy. All weird steam technology. | Mar 22 16:11 |
| cubexyz | I think there's a novel about Babbage era technology | Mar 22 16:13 |
| cubexyz | a sort of what if the Babbage computer was successful sort of thing | Mar 22 16:13 |
| msb_ | For a while DEC displays were round. I liked that. | Mar 22 16:13 |
| cubexyz | it's the natural form factor for early CRTs | Mar 22 16:16 |
| cubexyz | conical CRT is easier to make | Mar 22 16:16 |
| msb_ | Apparently photographers in 1860 didn't tell people to smile. Or maybe he died in 1859. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage | Mar 22 16:17 |
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| msb_ | cubexyz: right -- convex surfaces withstand the pressure better | Mar 22 16:17 |
| cubexyz | I think that was due to the long exposure time of cameras of that era, but yeah Babbage looks a bit grumpy in that pic | Mar 22 16:18 |
| cubexyz | I think I remember seeing some 1950s or older ... it looked like the monitor was circular but cut off at the top and bottom | Mar 22 16:20 |
| cubexyz | 1950s tv sets | Mar 22 16:21 |
| cubexyz | not really cut off but hidden by the bezel | Mar 22 16:21 |
| msb_ | Lots of Babbage-oriented fiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_Engine#In_popular_culture | Mar 22 16:30 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: What an idiot! We now know that Venezuela is the real menace to the US! | Mar 22 16:45 |
| msb_ | They are secretly planning to all fart in our general direction! | Mar 22 16:46 |
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| MinceR | it's possible to be told to smile and yet not smile | Mar 22 17:34 |
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| cubexyz | don't forget you can buy The Evil Within at the microsoft store | Mar 22 17:59 |
| cubexyz | just look at this highly appealing ad: | Mar 22 18:00 |
| cubexyz | http://www.xbox.com/en-CA/games/evil-within/buy-now/xbox-360 | Mar 22 18:00 |
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| msb_ | If you have an Xbox you already have the Evil Within. | Mar 22 18:11 |
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| amarsh04 | msb_ I have steamboy but haven't watched it yet | Mar 22 19:11 |
| msb_ | amarsh04: It's visually clever. Plotwise confused. | Mar 22 19:12 |
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| msb_ | Not as good as Ghost in the Shell or Cowboy Bebop | Mar 22 19:14 |
| amarsh04 | ok... I've seen some of each of those | Mar 22 19:16 |
| amarsh04 | but I like the music more than the anime - one can enjoy it while doing other things | Mar 22 19:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME’s Mutter Can Now Scale Window Decorations on HiDPI Displays | Tux Machines | Mar 22 19:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/gG3OonwOqE | Mar 22 19:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 22 19:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pinguy OS 14.04.2 Point Release | Mar 22 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gg27bPAayz (pinguyos.com) | Mar 22 19:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pinguyos.com | Pinguy OS 14.04.2 Point Release - Pinguy OS | Mar 22 19:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro KDE 0.9.0-pre5 edition released | Mar 22 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tXLknyf82L (manjaro.github.io) | Mar 22 19:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro KDE 0.9.0-pre5 edition released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Mar 22 19:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition FINAL released. | Mar 22 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/nld8funnCv (4mlinux.blogspot.co.uk) | Mar 22 20:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4mlinux.blogspot.co.uk | 4MLinux Blog: News | Mar 22 20:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines YUMI-2.0.1.6 released http://t.co/sH6ieR0CnV | Mar 22 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.itrunsonlinux.com) "can be used to create | Mar 22 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a Multiboot USB Flash Drive containing multiple | Mar 22 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | operating systems" | Mar 22 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itrunsonlinux.com | YUMI-2.0.1.6 released | Mar 22 20:05 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "AMD Is Hiring Two More Open-Source Linux GPU | Mar 22 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver Developers" http://t.co/7vAvahoorw | Mar 22 20:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMD Is Hiring Two More Open-Source Linux GPU Driver Developers - Phoronix | Mar 22 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SecoreBoot-Windows-10 | Mar 22 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | New SecureBoot Concerns Arise With Windows 10 - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/jyn8x ] | Mar 22 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 22 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Most Linux distributions out there are now SecureBoot-supported, but there's still fears over Microsoft some day revoking the Linux key or otherwise locking out users from their own operating system. Those running custom kernels and other environments that aren't SecureBoot signed could also be a problem in the future. | Mar 22 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Right now I'm cautiously optimistic though that most motherboard vendors will still offer the option to disable SecureBoot, so it's not a nightmare scenario quite yet. At least these days more IHVs are concerning themselves with Linux thanks to SteamOS & Co. Windows 10 computers will start surfacing later this year. | Mar 22 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 22 20:09 |
| cubexyz | this is a "boil the frog" thing | Mar 22 20:38 |
| cubexyz | M$ is turning up the heat | Mar 22 20:38 |
| cubexyz | they don't have to make it impossible to boot linux, that would attract attention from the DOJ | Mar 22 20:40 |
| cubexyz | they'll just keep making it more and more difficult | Mar 22 20:40 |
| balrog | expect low end stuff to be locked out | Mar 22 20:41 |
| balrog | like the 7" acer tablets | Mar 22 20:41 |
| cubexyz | "it's not a nightmare scenario quite yet" | Mar 22 20:41 |
| cubexyz | that's not very reassuring | Mar 22 20:42 |
| balrog | it's stuff for which they don't even bother to make a stable UEFI firmware | Mar 22 20:43 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft might not revoke the linux key? Wow, that's not something I can really count on | Mar 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5805132 | Mar 22 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Michael Silver Back to Acting as #Gartner 's Microsoft Agent, Promoting #Vista10 Based on False Promises http://techrights.org/2015/03/22/michael-silver-vista-10/ | Mar 22 20:45 | |
| schestowitz | "In the Netherlands we say "Bijt niet in de hand die je voert." (never bite the hand that feeds you). So their reports wont have any importance because it's more of an ad than a report?" | Mar 22 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Michael Silver Back to Acting as Gartner’s Microsoft Agent, Promoting Vista 10 Based on False Promises | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/jyncp ] | Mar 22 20:45 | |
| schestowitz | Many reporters do reprint what Gartners says | Mar 22 20:45 |
| cubexyz | I'm not using any microsoft key that can be revoked, ridiculous idea | Mar 22 20:46 |
| cubexyz | fact: the OEMs can lock secure boot on | Mar 22 20:48 |
| cubexyz | doesn't mean they will of course | Mar 22 20:48 |
| MinceR | not in the beginning, that is | Mar 22 20:48 |
| cubexyz | I hear even if you remove the cmos battery secure boot will stay on | Mar 22 20:50 |
| cubexyz | the board has to support Legacy Boot | Mar 22 20:52 |
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| cubexyz | if it does, you're fine | Mar 22 20:52 |
| MinceR | until you step in a bug because it's a bloated mess | Mar 22 20:53 |
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| cubexyz | I know one of my motherboards quite well as I put coreboot on it | Mar 22 20:56 |
| cubexyz | even did some ISA card testing with it | Mar 22 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD | Mar 22 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Systems http://t.co/j6T35meM4m | Mar 22 20:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD Linux Systems - Phoronix | Mar 22 20:59 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited '"AMD Is Hiring Two More Open-Source Linux GPU...' | Mar 22 20:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines User reviews: Applications provided by #Jolla | Mar 22 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YZE9ZfjeGj | Mar 22 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (reviewjolla.blogspot.nl) | Mar 22 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reviewjolla.blogspot.nl | Review #Jolla #SailfishOS: User reviews: Applications provided by Jolla | Mar 22 21:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @JollaBot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'User reviews: Applications provided by #Jolla http://t.co/YZE9ZfjeGj' | Mar 22 21:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition FINAL released. | Mar 22 21:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition FINAL released. | Tux Machines | Mar 22 21:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 101 Open Source Tools for Developers | Mar 22 21:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 101 Open Source Tools for Developers | Tux Machines | Mar 22 21:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD | Mar 22 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Systems http://t.co/ITfPY7YZT6 | Mar 22 21:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD Linux Systems | Tux Machines | Mar 22 21:36 | |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/ | Mar 22 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Windows 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jy8jp ] | Mar 22 21:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines User reviews: Applications provided by Jolla | Mar 22 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | User reviews: Applications provided by Jolla | Tux Machines | Mar 22 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Telco sector OPNFV project champions open | Mar 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | network services http://t.co/l6tZpKCxUB | Mar 22 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Telco sector OPNFV project champions open network services | Tux Machines | Mar 22 21:39 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited '101 Open Source Tools for Developers http://t.co/1ueuQSsb6i' | Mar 23 01:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Running for DPL http://t.co/mimujFT6D8 | Mar 23 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.dogguy.org) "I nominated myself as a | Mar 23 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dogguy.org | Crazy world...: Running for DPL | Mar 23 01:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | candidate for the 2015 DPL election." | Mar 23 01:27 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5807478 | Mar 23 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: .@STcom and @govsingapore have changed their whole brand/background to a shrine of Lee Kuan Yew. So much for free press and gov... #singapore | Mar 23 01:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Want to run Android on your PC? AMI’s DuOS is | Mar 23 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the answer http://t.co/BYMbSuWaIq | Mar 23 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.digitaltrends.com) | Mar 23 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Android on Windows: AMI DuOS review | Digital Trends | Mar 23 02:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Big Manjaro Linux refresh | Mar 23 02:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux KDE 0.9.0 Pre5 Out Now, Ships with KDE Plasma 5.2.1 and KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 - Softpedia | Mar 23 02:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Manjaro Linux Update Pack Brings Lots of KDE Plasma 5 and Xfce 4.12 Fixes, Linux Kernel 3.19.2 - Softpedia | Mar 23 02:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Mar 23 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | 3 mins · Edited · | Mar 23 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that would make it tortoise interruptus? | Mar 23 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://gizmo.do/rSAwR0Y | Mar 23 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Man Interrupts Tortoise Sex, World's Slowest Chase Scene Ensues | Mar 23 04:38 | |
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| DaemonFC | 6 mins · | Mar 23 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | Mario coming to the iPhone.... Why is this news? I'm sure that Android has an NES emulator that can load ROMs. The only reason it would be news for Apple users is because they're forbidden to install things like that. | Mar 23 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.zdnet.com/article/top-ios-news-of-the-week-mario-coming-to-iphone-ios-8-growing-trade-android-for-iphone/ | Mar 23 04:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Top iOS news of the week: Mario coming to iPhone, iOS 8 growing, trade Android for iPhone | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jyqgx ] | Mar 23 04:39 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @sjodogne favourited 'Sébastien Jodogne, ReGlue are Free Software Award winners...' | Mar 23 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Demise of Open Source Hosting Providers | Mar 23 06:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Codehaus and Google Code http://t.co/8qSfuXPH8V | Mar 23 06:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Demise of Open Source Hosting Providers Codehaus and Google Code | Tux Machines | Mar 23 06:04 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5807206 | Mar 23 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@silverwolf@diasp.eu: After receiving comments with people attacking me personally and calling me an anti-semite for sharing political cartoons regarding the state of Israel, I have taken down some of the cartoons. I wonder if anyone would have said anything had I shared cartoons about the prophet Mohammad? Probably not considering the feedback. #doublestandards #hypocrisy #freespeech | Mar 23 08:41 | |
| schestowitz | "There are jokes about Catholic priests everywhere just the same about Muslims, but when you say "hey Rabbi" they get their panties in a bunch. LOL Im glad it is quite obvious to some of you ;)" | Mar 23 08:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | Lefties/Progressives would have attacked you either way (Israel or Muhammad cartoons), probably even more on the latter since many lefties are raving anti-semites. Others usually have individual preferences. While there definitely is a strong political control with such hypocrisy (e.g. in France), I dunno if there is any of that on Diaspora. | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | I generally stay away from the topic Israel/Jews/Palestine/et.al., since it's just one big mess and I have no idea what is actually going on – like ISIS, the US is/was probably behind some of it, but to what degree is pure speculation. | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | It's good that you're willing to risk your neck going in there, but besides my adamant support for your right to free speech I cannot back you up on the issue; except that the attackers should go fuck themselves. Repeatedly. Against their own will. With chainsaws. | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | "well said" | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | "Be careful who you generalize about." | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | xDDD | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | Seems someone is so horribly traumatized by rambo's movies about "lefties/progressives", that forgets that are the righties the ones who are funding the righties in israel, ukraine, venezuela, and everywhere :) I know there are many childish here (exactly the same as in righties) but this is Off-topic isn't it? :) | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5806610 | Mar 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Mexicoleaks shows promise http://www.latintimes.com/mexican-wikileaks-launched-will-mexicoleaks-unearth-corruption-301638 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/03/13/mexicos-version-of-wikileaks-causes-controversy-before-its-first-story/ http://phys.org/news/2015-03-mexico-wikileaks.html | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.latintimes.com | Mexican Wikileaks Launched: Will Mexicoleaks Unearth Corruption? [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh6 ] | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | Mexico’s version of WikiLeaks causes controversy before its first story - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh7 ] | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | Do you mean the country that voted for the most handsome candidate and now seems to regret it? I would not hold my breadth. | Mar 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> phys.org | Mexico's own 'WikiLeaks' already making waves [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh8 ] | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2974973/Pena-Nieto-faces-human-rights-demos.html | Mar 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Pena nieto faces human rights demos | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh9 ] | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5807406 | Mar 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #police for the affluent https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0e/ea/e4/0eeae49e3e67de87fa0ed319206b6f1a.jpg knowing who they really serve and protect (except themselves) | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | "Maybe the hawk did not want problems with the police." | Mar 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5807325 | Mar 23 08:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hisdudeness777@joindiaspora.com reshared: After receiving comments with people attacking me personally and calling me an anti-semite for sharing political cartoons regarding the state of Israel, I have taken down some of the cartoons. I wonder if anyone would have said anything had I shared cartoons about the prophet Mohammad? Probably not considering the feedback. #doublestandards #hypocrisy #freespeech | Mar 23 08:47 | |
| schestowitz | "Regardless of if they were or they weren't, the double standards have been exposed. Its ok to poke fun at Catholic priests, Muslims, Russians etc but if you open your mouth about a Rabbi, the whole mob goes after you." | Mar 23 08:47 |
| schestowitz | If you introduce swastikas and Nazi-era cartoons, then it's becoming tasteless | Mar 23 08:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian | Mar 23 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian | Tux Machines | Mar 23 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors | Mar 23 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fight Ebola http://t.co/szsYuy3DWM | Mar 23 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors Fight Ebola | Tux Machines | Mar 23 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Mar 23 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Tux Machines | Mar 23 09:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now | Mar 23 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download with MakeMKV | Mar 23 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now Available for Download with MakeMKV | Tux Machines | Mar 23 09:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 | Mar 23 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Several Updated Drivers | Mar 23 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 with Several Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Mar 23 09:25 | |
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| Sosumi | http://blog.gsmarena.com/windows-10-may-play-well-another-os/ | Mar 23 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.gsmarena.com | Windows 10 may not play well with a another OS - GSMArena Blog [ http://ur1.ca/jyrz8 ] | Mar 23 10:49 | |
| Sosumi | disabling secure boot is no longer mandatory | Mar 23 10:49 |
| Sosumi | well, having an option to disable | Mar 23 10:50 |
| Sosumi | it | Mar 23 10:50 |
| schestowitz | > https://duck.co/blog/donations_2015 | Mar 23 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-duck.co | 2015 Open Source Donations | Mar 23 10:51 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz | > Nice to see Tails and GPG on the list. | Mar 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz | DDG? Yikes. | Mar 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: MS Peter | Mar 23 10:52 |
| schestowitz | I think it mat | Mar 23 10:52 |
| schestowitz | may be overstated | Mar 23 10:52 |
| schestowitz | to attract attention | Mar 23 10:52 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: see what I published half an hour ago... | Mar 23 10:52 |
| Sosumi | yep, sorry | Mar 23 10:54 |
| Sosumi | for republishing | Mar 23 10:54 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors...' | Mar 23 11:03 | |
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| cubexyz | PMON did something interesting | Mar 23 11:23 |
| cubexyz | it simulates x86 to handle VGA code | Mar 23 11:24 |
| cubexyz | also supports booting from USB devices | Mar 23 11:24 |
| cubexyz | Debian Wheezy does a pretty good job supporting Lemote | Mar 23 11:25 |
| cubexyz | the Lemote folks have ported Debian to Loongson arch | Mar 23 11:26 |
| cubexyz | Gentoo & Slackware also work | Mar 23 11:27 |
| cubexyz | even java was ported to Loongson | Mar 23 11:27 |
| cubexyz | alas, no distribution at all in North America | Mar 23 11:29 |
| cubexyz | well someone is buying them... everyone seems to be sold out | Mar 23 11:33 |
| cubexyz | alibaba russian has some | Mar 23 11:36 |
| cubexyz | wow, some models are pretty cheap | Mar 23 11:37 |
| cubexyz | $109.50 but tiny 7" screen | Mar 23 11:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No More Probes, A Really Stylish Survival RTS | Mar 23 11:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coming To Linux https://t.co/uc8EgMHmjx | Mar 23 11:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 23 11:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian | Mar 23 11:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/nhHkxWh24y (www.linuxlinks.com) | Mar 23 11:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com | Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site | Mar 23 11:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors | Mar 23 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fight Ebola http://t.co/nhHkxWh24y | Mar 23 11:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxlinks.com) | Mar 23 11:38 |
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| cubexyz | this is strange... only alibaba russia has stock | Mar 23 11:39 |
| cubexyz | is google pulling something here? | Mar 23 11:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Mar 23 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Xb5j1uStMk (www.networksasia.net) | Mar 23 11:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networksasia.net | Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Networks Asia | Mar 23 11:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now | Mar 23 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download with MakeMKV | Mar 23 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0nHahLPXr6 (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 23 11:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now Available for Download with MakeMKV - Softpedia | Mar 23 11:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 | Mar 23 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Several Updated Drivers | Mar 23 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ISAlLTc4GB (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 23 11:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 with Several Updated Drivers - Softpedia | Mar 23 11:41 | |
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| cubexyz | VIA WM8850 android laptop 7" for $47 but only 20 piece orders | Mar 23 11:43 |
| msb_ | Wow, computers for less than $50! | Mar 23 11:47 |
| msb_ | Soon everyone in the world will have one, or access to one. | Mar 23 11:48 |
| cubexyz | yeah kind of crazy | Mar 23 11:48 |
| cubexyz | something funny is going on with lemote though | Mar 23 11:48 |
| msb_ | Free software will be vital to enable uncensored communication. | Mar 23 11:48 |
| cubexyz | msb_, don't you think it's a bit odd that alibaba russian has tons of lemote laptops but when I log onto my alibaba account there's no lemote computers at all? | Mar 23 11:49 |
| msb_ | There is also Raspberry Pi 2, and this one, which has so many hardware features it is thrilling: http://store.imgtec.com/us/product/mips-creator-ci20/ | Mar 23 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-store.imgtec.com | MIPS® Creator CI20 | Imagination Store [ http://ur1.ca/jys7g ] | Mar 23 11:51 | |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Sure. Maybe XRevan86 could try logging in. | Mar 23 11:53 |
| XRevan86 | I don't have an account there. | Mar 23 11:53 |
| cubexyz | msb_, CI20 creator looks interesting but what about the firmware? | Mar 23 11:54 |
| msb_ | Not sure. Everything may be opensource. http://elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI20 | Mar 23 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elinux.org | MIPS Creator CI20 - eLinux.org | Mar 23 11:57 | |
| cubexyz | nah, looks like binary blobs to me | Mar 23 11:57 |
| msb_ | http://elinux.org/CI20_Downloads | Mar 23 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elinux.org | CI20 Downloads - eLinux.org | Mar 23 11:57 | |
| msb_ | We are entering the era of system on a chip. For sure, somebody will do it right. | Mar 23 11:58 |
| msb_ | China manufactures very inexpensive chips. | Mar 23 11:59 |
| msb_ | Like and Ato | Mar 23 11:59 |
| msb_ | Like and AtoD to USB convertor for a couple of dollars. | Mar 23 12:00 |
| msb_ | Like an AtoD to USB convertor for a couple of dollars. | Mar 23 12:00 |
| cubexyz | I see that ARM-based chromebooks also use U-boot | Mar 23 12:00 |
| cubexyz | like the CI20 | Mar 23 12:00 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think I'll probably get one of the chromeboxes | Mar 23 12:01 |
| msb_ | If widespread uncensored Net access can be achieved, along with computers for $50-100 complete with keyboard and screen, then the fascist attacks by the US Empire will be more difficult to carry out, or at least to lie about. | Mar 23 12:04 |
| msb_ | Controlling entire populations is difficult. Bombing has a bad reputation. | Mar 23 12:06 |
| cubexyz | something up in Yemen | Mar 23 12:06 |
| cubexyz | there's talk of civil war :-/ | Mar 23 12:06 |
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| msb_ | Here's a recent article from the most accurate news site I've found: http://www.globalresearch.ca/yemen-american-weapons-once-more-landed-up-in-the-wrong-hands-mistakenly-in-the-hands-of-al-qaeda/5437988 | Mar 23 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Yemen: American Weapons Once More “Landed Up in the Wrong Hands”. Mistakenly in the Hands of Al Qaeda | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/jys9j ] | Mar 23 12:11 | |
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| msb_ | The primary goal of US policy is to destroy socialism, because socialism gives the profits to workers instead of to ultra-wealthy psychopath owners like the ones who control the US govt. | Mar 23 12:41 |
| msb_ | To this end, the US backs the most murderous dictators it can find, to keep workers from organizing. About half a century ago, the US got rid of socialist leaders in Iraq and Iran, replacing them with torturing murdering Saddam Hussein and Shah Reza Pahlavi. | Mar 23 12:44 |
| MinceR | yeah, we had so much profit under socialism | Mar 23 12:45 |
| msb_ | In stage two, Saddam got a bit uppity, and was declared to be a monster by the US. So he and Iraq were declared war targets by the US, which murdered millions of Iraqis. The US neglected to mention that it had put Saddam into power in the first place. | Mar 23 12:47 |
| msb_ | Pahlavi got sick and died, and was replaced by Ayatollah Khomeini. | Mar 23 12:48 |
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| MinceR | must be a reptoid conspiracy. | Mar 23 12:48 |
| msb_ | Here the anti-human insanity of the Moslem religion came in handy. If you can get people down on their knees worshipping a non-existent deity several times a day, instead of several times a year as with judaism and christianity, then you have pretty much destroyed their minds and capacity for critical thinking. You can get them to do anything you tell them. | Mar 23 12:50 |
| msb_ | So both Iraq and Iran were controlled by murderous lunatics, thanks to the US. The US armed both of them to fight wars against each other. | Mar 23 12:51 |
| msb_ | The US armed, financed and trained Al-Qaeda, back when it was called the Mujahideen and sent by Reagan to overthrow the secular socialist government of Afghanistan, in order to cause trouble for the USSR ("Russia's Vietnam"). | Mar 23 12:55 |
| msb_ | Now the US has created ISIS, and is arming and funding it through one or more cut-outs, and claiming it is the current | Mar 23 12:56 |
| msb_ | Now the US has created ISIS, and is arming and funding it through one or more cut-outs, and claiming it is the current Great Menace. | Mar 23 12:56 |
| msb_ | It's easy to create armies of insane Moslem warriors with a few billion dollars. The religion makes them crazy, and also teaches them "Jihad" -- mass-murdering whatever group the leader tells them are not true Moslems. | Mar 23 13:00 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/lrDFHeZXQa | Mar 23 16:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.enterprise-mobility-daily.com) Stories via | Mar 23 16:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprise-mobility-daily.com | Enterprise Mobility Daily | Mar 23 16:32 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apparently, Ubuntu Doesn’t Need Blu-ray Burning | Mar 23 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support http://t.co/NwQwYXyPEh | Mar 23 16:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Apparently, Ubuntu Doesn’t Need Blu-ray Burning Support - Softpedia | Mar 23 16:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to Set Up Your Linux Dev Station to Work | Mar 23 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | From Anywhere http://t.co/l9ZgDjYH48 | Mar 23 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Mar 23 16:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | How to Set Up Your Linux Dev Station to Work From Anywhere | Linux.com | Mar 23 16:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Neptune 4.3 available http://t.co/VQweqZi7b5 | Mar 23 16:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.itrunsonlinux.com) | Mar 23 16:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itrunsonlinux.com | Neptune 4.3 available | It runs on Linux | Mar 23 16:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ten years of Kubuntu http://t.co/0hiORcYxLA | Mar 23 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (lwn.net) | Mar 23 17:10 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 23 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Ten years of Kubuntu [LWN.net] | Mar 23 17:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tails 1.3.1 Is an Emergency Release to Patch | Mar 23 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Critical Security Issues in Tor Browser | Mar 23 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tails 1.3.1 Is an Emergency Release to Patch Critical Security Issues in Tor Browser - Softpedia | Mar 23 17:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leveraging the power of academia in your open | Mar 23 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source project http://t.co/S4qA3GvVUn | Mar 23 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leveraging the power of academia in your open source project | Tux Machines | Mar 23 17:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/artZ6ZoUrE | Mar 23 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 23 17:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/TDctw040yX | Mar 23 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Mar 23 17:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/pBXPvW0xLP | Mar 23 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 23 17:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's releases and howtos | Mar 23 18:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's releases and howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 23 18:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 23/3/2015: Linux 4.0 RC5, Kubuntu | Mar 23 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Celebrates Ten Years http://t.co/DsLUDQCGXz | Mar 23 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 23 18:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/3/2015: Linux 4.0 RC5, Kubuntu Celebrates Ten Years | Techrights | Mar 23 18:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Software freedom http://t.co/egO84wE1rZ | Mar 23 18:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software freedom | Tux Machines | Mar 23 18:31 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10984603_909130072464858_8849666308484622567_n.jpg?oh=03a5324b80a94705197d13c3f708f5ef&oe=557E826D | Mar 23 18:41 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: George Bush could not recall this proverb | Mar 23 19:28 |
| schestowitz | !google bush shame on you | Mar 23 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bush "Fool Me Once..." - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DeKgPY1adc0A | Mar 23 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - George W. Bush - Wikiquote | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_W._Bush | Mar 23 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Quote by George W. Bush: “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I ... | http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/6436-there-s-an-old-saying-in-tennessee-i-know-it-s | Mar 23 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bushism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushism | Mar 23 19:28 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 23 19:28 |
| schestowitz | do you have this in the weekend to look into logs? | Mar 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz | I hope to publish the logs next week :-p | Mar 23 19:29 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 23 19:29 |
| MinceR | which days do you need logs for? | Mar 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz | cheers mate :-) | Mar 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz | best to go back to 24/2 | Mar 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz | for the 4 channels | Mar 23 19:29 |
| MinceR | so everything since 2015-02-24? | Mar 23 19:30 |
| schestowitz | yes, please, if possible... | Mar 23 19:30 |
| MinceR | ok | Mar 23 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I didn't lose data since 2008... | Mar 23 19:30 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: is it ok if i package a bigger range? it would take less work for me :) | Mar 23 19:47 |
| schestowitz | sure :-) | Mar 23 19:47 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: which email address should i send it to? or should i just upload it to sendspace and paste the link? | Mar 23 20:25 |
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| MinceR | “I have to explain that I’m not an anarchist – I have a pro-state gland.” | Mar 23 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: r at schestowitz com, thank you :-) | Mar 23 20:42 |
| MinceR | is it ok if i send it via gmail? | Mar 23 20:45 |
| MinceR | the file is too big for mail2tor :) | Mar 23 20:45 |
| schestowitz | sure no secrets in it | Mar 23 20:45 |
| schestowitz | much of it is to be published as HTML | Mar 23 20:46 |
| MinceR | sent | Mar 23 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: that's awesome, thank you! | Mar 23 21:25 |
| MinceR | np | Mar 23 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: #Debian Project Leader 2010-2013 and board director at #OSI /opensource dot org considers asking a question about #systemd 'trolling' https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150323.184359.c8760b91.en.html | Mar 24 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.dyne.org | Re: [Dng] rumors on RMS about systemd at libreplanet [ http://ur1.ca/jyvb9 ] | Mar 24 01:23 | |
| MinceR | seen it | Mar 24 01:23 |
| MinceR | also, Stefano Zacchiroli is also a member of Free Software Foundation's High Priority Projects committee, according to wikipedia | Mar 24 01:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/580181745540018176 | Mar 24 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Did you catch? -- https://t.co/kbXHmfuK56 (Banks; Cards; "Consumer Credit / Reporting Agencies",e.g.,"TRW"=CIA contractor, etc) | Mar 24 01:47 | |
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| schestowitz | Seen it, tweeted it days ago, posted in techrights | Mar 24 01:48 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: wow | Mar 24 01:48 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/580184530679541760 | Mar 24 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Excellent: have you drawn and inferences or connections from it? Like to hear | Mar 24 01:55 | |
| schestowitz | Not my area of expertise TBH | Mar 24 01:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/580185586348118016 | Mar 24 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@zacchiro considers asking@ question about #systemd 'trolling' https://t.co/GAbRHE31H0 via @schestowitz cc:@mbJunior http://t.co/hUxe8JXknk | Mar 24 01:56 | |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 24 01:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/580186146845560833 | Mar 24 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz darn! | Mar 24 01:57 | |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 24 02:30 |
| schestowitz | nn, wow, late... | Mar 24 02:31 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5810991 | Mar 24 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #idg helps people run #windows stuff on #gnu #linux http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900497/how-to-run-windows-software-in-linux-everything-you-need-to-know.html as if GNU/Linux hasn't got #freesw for everything | Mar 24 02:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | How to run Windows software in Linux: Everything you need to know | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jywns ] | Mar 24 02:31 | |
| schestowitz | "I don't think pure GNU 100% free software allows for wine or virtual machine due to proprietary code...." | Mar 24 02:31 |
| schestowitz | Nothing prevents it from running, but I guess prebundling it in a distro is another matter... | Mar 24 02:31 |
| MinceR | they can even run systemd, wayland and gnome | Mar 24 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900497/how-to-run-windows-software-in-linux-everything-you-need-to-know.html | Mar 24 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 24 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > kind of missing the point | Mar 24 02:39 |
| schestowitz | No, maybe this IS the point of IDG. | Mar 24 02:40 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: your recent microsoft articles are excellent. I didn't know Win 10 had no off secure boot requirement for OEMs | Mar 24 04:12 |
| XFaCE | but we knew that would eventually happen. Even Nathan Lineback knew. Doesn't take a genius | Mar 24 04:12 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: but I love how we were all paranoid | Mar 24 04:12 |
| XFaCE | somehow | Mar 24 04:12 |
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| XFaCE | "Meanwhile, as revealed to us by a tip, Microsoft’s booster Julie Bort writes “LEAKED” to mean “press release” or “public relations”. It is yet another puff piece/ad framed as “leak” for some extra attention or allure. Again, this is typical for Microsoft. Watch this other article titled “Microsoft leak shows plans for cloud-first Nano Server”." | Mar 24 04:39 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: of course, this shit's been going on since the 90s | Mar 24 04:39 |
| XFaCE | Cairo, Longhorn, et al. | Mar 24 04:39 |
| XFaCE | Many promises during Chicago | Mar 24 04:39 |
| XFaCE | OS/2. Windows NT, Windows 1.x | Mar 24 04:40 |
| XFaCE | lots of obfuscating bullshit encrusting the substance | Mar 24 04:41 |
| XFaCE | The perpetual fluff machine by Microsoft | Mar 24 04:41 |
| tessier | Windows 3.1 was the last version of Windows I ever seriously used. | Mar 24 04:50 |
| XFaCE | "Microsoft loves Linux like a shark loves fish." - Indeed | Mar 24 05:12 |
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| DaemonFC | I posted to Apple's Facebook wall. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan FarmerApple Inc. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | 1 min · | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | The Tor Project (which allows for people to browse the web without being spied on by third parties) has been investigating barriers to people being able to use the Tor software. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | One of the biggest problems is the Mac's so-called "security" option, which prevents Tor from being installed. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually, you won't be able to turn off the so-called Mac "security" option, and only app store apps will run, and then Apple will be censoring your Mac software the same way they do with the ipad and iphone. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | All of Apple's products are malware, because they attack the user's freedoms, beginning with the freedom to run any software, for any purpose, at any time. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Apple should fix their products if they're seriously concerned about security problems that allowed malware like Mac Defender and Flashback to install themselves on 1 in 4 Macs at their peak. Attacking the user isn't the right way to do that. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Apple banned Tor software from the iThings already, without any explanation. A power that they have over users only because those users foolishly surrendered their freedom to Apple. | Mar 24 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ux-sprint-2015-wrapup | Mar 24 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | UX Sprint 2015 wrapup | The Tor Blog [ http://ur1.ca/jyxzt ] | Mar 24 07:59 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You figure they'll block me for that? | Mar 24 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | Seems their wall is full of complaints. | Mar 24 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | Bad customer service. | Mar 24 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | One guy said he got a brand new iPad with a huge dent in it and Apple won't replace it. | Mar 24 08:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4 reasons why people should stop associating | Mar 24 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open source with a lack of security | Mar 24 08:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 reasons why people should stop associating open source with a lack of security | Tux Machines | Mar 24 08:27 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based COMs gain WiFi AP and BLE 4.1 functions | Tux Machines | Mar 24 10:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Fears of Windows Lock-out Here Now | Mar 24 10:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Fears of Windows Lock-out Here Now | Tux Machines | Mar 24 10:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Companies Plan to Hire More Linux Pros | Mar 24 10:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Stallman had no opinion on systemd other than | Mar 24 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | it being more of a "convenience question" than | Mar 24 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | an open source issue." http://t.co/ctQfQrUC9E | Mar 24 10:28 |
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| cubexyz | if motherboard manufacturers and security gurus really wanted safe BIOS they would go back to using read-only PROMs | Mar 24 10:47 |
| cubexyz | or at the very least a physical read-only switch | Mar 24 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Linux 6.5 Released with Xfce 4.12, | Mar 24 10:48 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Xfce 4.12, Based on Debian 7 Wheezy | Mar 24 10:48 |
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| cubexyz | basically we have a crap system of SMT UEFI BIOS instead | Mar 24 10:50 |
| cubexyz | even worse, a proprietary closed source SMT BIOS | Mar 24 10:50 |
| cubexyz | esstentially we are moving towards computers which are user-hostile | Mar 24 10:51 |
| cubexyz | on the original Amigas we had PROMs | Mar 24 10:54 |
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| cubexyz | and they were socketed | Mar 24 10:55 |
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| cubexyz | anyways the whole UEFI is crap | Mar 24 11:23 |
| cubexyz | the motherboard manufacturers could have used read-only PROMs if they were serious about stopping malware on the BIOS | Mar 24 11:23 |
| cubexyz | making your own BIOS takes a serious amount of effort | Mar 24 11:31 |
| cubexyz | if you don't get help from the manufacturer it could take 5 years or even longer to reverse-engineer a BIOS | Mar 24 11:31 |
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| XRevan86 | cubexyz: SecureBoot "secures" from unsigned stuff on EFI partition. Question: how did this unsigned appear on EFI partition? | Mar 24 12:40 |
| XRevan86 | unsigned stuff* | Mar 24 12:40 |
| XRevan86 | Can't Windows make an FS read-only or anything? | Mar 24 12:40 |
| cubexyz | it's FAT I think | Mar 24 12:41 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yeah, FAT{16,32} | Mar 24 12:41 |
| cubexyz | I've never heard of a ready only FAT partition | Mar 24 12:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: OS can restrict anything. | Mar 24 12:42 |
| cubexyz | you can always erase the BIOS, at least everything I've ever used can be erased | Mar 24 12:43 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: SecureBoot doesn't secure from that :D. | Mar 24 12:43 |
| cubexyz | but if you erase the BIOS you need to replace it with something | Mar 24 12:43 |
| cubexyz | so you need something hardware that either coreboot or PMON understands | Mar 24 12:44 |
| cubexyz | s/something/some/ | Mar 24 12:44 |
| cubexyz | the more I learn about this stuff the more I see that Microsoft has a lot of control over the firmware | Mar 24 12:46 |
| cubexyz | I assume coreboot allows booting from usb devices with ext2 partitions | Mar 24 12:48 |
| cubexyz | I've never tried it | Mar 24 12:49 |
| cubexyz | just cdrom and hard drive | Mar 24 12:49 |
| msb_ | Since we know of other ways to lock out malware that don't lock out non-MS OSs, we know that Microsoft is lying when they give their reasons for doing it their way. Right? | Mar 24 12:50 |
| cubexyz | it's all bullshit | Mar 24 12:51 |
| cubexyz | this is round #2, round #1 was locking out BeOS | Mar 24 12:51 |
| cubexyz | I guess though that the BIOS on x86 has always stored in a FAT partition | Mar 24 12:53 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: The biggest proof is their last statement that ability to SecureBoot is not mandatory. | Mar 24 12:53 |
| cubexyz | ability to disable, yes | Mar 24 12:53 |
| XRevan86 | there is no reason for making it possible for vendors to not make SecureBoot disablable | Mar 24 12:53 |
| msb_ | So if they don't want to lock out non-MS OSen, they could have just stayed with that. | Mar 24 12:54 |
| cubexyz | it's totally stupid, what if some hobbyist wants to run their own OS? | Mar 24 12:54 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Yeah. | Mar 24 12:54 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Maintain status-quo | Mar 24 12:54 |
| cubexyz | you could end up with a windows only motherboard | Mar 24 12:55 |
| cubexyz | which I thought was a possibility years ago | Mar 24 12:55 |
| msb_ | There used to be a program that could be run on windows that would load Linux (loadlin?). Will that work on a locked-down mobo? | Mar 24 12:55 |
| cubexyz | that's msdos and real mode I think | Mar 24 12:57 |
| cubexyz | not NT based | Mar 24 12:57 |
| cubexyz | so msdos, win95, win98 stuff | Mar 24 12:57 |
| msb_ | So we can make a clear and simple statement that MS's labelling/certification criterion for Windows 8.1 was just as secure as its criterion for Windows 10, but the latter also locks out all non-MS operating systems. Right? | Mar 24 13:03 |
| cubexyz | no, you can't really say that yet | Mar 24 13:03 |
| XFaCE | [08:54:45]<cubexyz> you could end up with a windows only motherboard | Mar 24 13:03 |
| cubexyz | it depends on whether or not you can disable secure boot | Mar 24 13:03 |
| XFaCE | we are going to end up with XDA devs having to "root" PCs next | Mar 24 13:03 |
| XFaCE | fucking ridiculous | Mar 24 13:03 |
| cubexyz | right, it's a bad situation | Mar 24 13:03 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: It's basically like Android phones now | Mar 24 13:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Radeon DisplayPort MST Queued For Linux 4.1 | Tux Machines | Mar 24 13:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Mar 24 13:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 24 13:04 | |
| XFaCE | Some vendors allow phone bootloader unlocks, some don't | Mar 24 13:04 |
| cubexyz | I remember you could put OpenBSD on zaurus, but that was a PDA not a phone | Mar 24 13:04 |
| XFaCE | the problem is that unlike Google, which doesn't care either way if vendor unlock or keep locked bootloaders | Mar 24 13:05 |
| XFaCE | at least for the most part | Mar 24 13:05 |
| XFaCE | Microsoft DOES have a strong incentive to keep it locked | Mar 24 13:05 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: But the Windows 10 criterion specifically forbids the ability to disable secure boot, right? | Mar 24 13:05 |
| cubexyz | the Google chromebook has developer mode | Mar 24 13:05 |
| XFaCE | msb_: no | Mar 24 13:05 |
| XFaCE | it doesn't mandate that OEMs have to put a switch in | Mar 24 13:05 |
| cubexyz | no, merely that disabling secure boot is optional | Mar 24 13:05 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: No, it doesn't. | Mar 24 13:06 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It allows to forbid. | Mar 24 13:06 |
| XRevan86 | Vendor can do what they like. | Mar 24 13:06 |
| cubexyz | still, no one wants to rely on that | Mar 24 13:06 |
| cubexyz | rather programming in the ability to disable secure boot is optional | Mar 24 13:07 |
| XRevan86 | It is also possible that Microsoft will deal with some vendors to create hardware without ability to disable SecureBoot. | Mar 24 13:07 |
| cubexyz | I think surface computers are like that already? | Mar 24 13:07 |
| cubexyz | not sure | Mar 24 13:07 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: The x86 ones are not. | Mar 24 13:08 |
| XRevan86 | and ARM ones would not recieve Windows 10 %). | Mar 24 13:08 |
| XRevan86 | "You bought Microsoft Surface on ARM? Even Microsoft hates you." | Mar 24 13:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5813540 | Mar 24 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The world's next credit crunch http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/11490796/The-worlds-next-credit-crunch-could-make-2008-look-like-a-hiccup.html no accident, not inevitable. Designed, benefits the plutocracy (loans/cheap labour). | Mar 24 13:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | The world's next credit crunch could make 2008 look like a hiccup - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/jyzsc ] | Mar 24 13:09 | |
| schestowitz | "almost 700 trillion is owed to somebody. joke." | Mar 24 13:09 |
| schestowitz | money created in a vacuum | Mar 24 13:09 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: what's your opinion of Rick Falkvinge? | Mar 24 13:09 |
| msb_ | So maybe a publicity campaign would work that tells people "Don't buy X, Y, and Z brand computers because they will lock you in to Windows forever. Buy A, B, or C brand, which are OK." | Mar 24 13:10 |
| XFaCE | I didn't realize he was former Microsoft | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5813285 | Mar 24 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Stallman has been reading #techrights for many years. It's viewed by him as one of those few (usually small) sites that he can trust. | Mar 24 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Congratulations! | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | "How do you know that? How does he read the web? With links or something?" | Mar 24 13:10 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Unless all brands would do that. | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Browser (in GNOME) and ncurses | Mar 24 13:10 |
| XRevan86 | not for all models of course | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: he's OK | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | I trust him | Mar 24 13:10 |
| cubexyz | does techrights site work well with lynx? :) | Mar 24 13:11 |
| schestowitz | we talk sometimes online | Mar 24 13:11 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I think so, the wordpress and drupal parts should | Mar 24 13:11 |
| schestowitz | probably mediawiki too | Mar 24 13:11 |
| cubexyz | yeah, seems to work pretty well | Mar 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | the appearance is all in CSS | Mar 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | but i modified the themes a bit, it may hamper reading | Mar 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | like menus as content | Mar 24 13:12 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I noticed a glitch in your drupal header | Mar 24 13:12 |
| XFaCE | your photo is covering part of the tagline at the top | Mar 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | I know of one, anything else? | Mar 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | Ah, depends on the browser I guess | Mar 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | I never access the drupal side, it's there because I needed to train myself in drupal 2 years ago | Mar 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | for my job | Mar 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | I help maintain london.gov.uk now | Mar 24 13:14 |
| XFaCE | I thought you went Drupal because of WordPress' issues | Mar 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz | to a lesser degree (by choice) food.gov.uk | Mar 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: that led me to knowing drupal better | Mar 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz | so I could better see WordPress' flaws | Mar 24 13:14 |
| XFaCE | aha | Mar 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz | and we bought tuxmachines at the same time, it runs Drupal 6 | Mar 24 13:14 |
| XFaCE | [09:13:02]<schestowitz> Ah, depends on the browser I guess | Mar 24 13:15 |
| XFaCE | I'm just running firefox, nothing fancy | Mar 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <zoobab> The website encountered an unexpected error. Please try again later. | Mar 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz | usually happens when crackers overwhelm the site with attempts | Mar 24 13:16 |
| schestowitz | happens several times per day now for 6 months... started around the time I did EPO articles | Mar 24 13:16 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: So you work for the government, eh? That explains why you won't talk about the evidence for 9/11 inside job. 8^) | Mar 24 13:16 |
| schestowitz | 9/11 likely to have enjoyed apathy | Mar 24 13:17 |
| schestowitz | as were the anthrax attack, which deHart leaks could suggest were an inside job | Mar 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz | IOW, 9/11 by terrorists | Mar 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz | But oversight in intel' raises question, also Saudi role | Mar 24 13:18 |
| cubexyz | a government job could be OK, like working for the EPA | Mar 24 13:18 |
| cubexyz | or health Canada | Mar 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz | the anthrax attacks seem to have had a hand in them from those selling Iraq war | Mar 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz | BTW, deHart's dad now follows me in twitter | Mar 24 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Canada was deporting him after he had been tortured by the FBI despite being US citizen | Mar 24 13:19 |
| schestowitz | They try to paint him "pedo" | Mar 24 13:19 |
| schestowitz | But it's a cover for espionage vendetta | Mar 24 13:19 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: I can't parse "9/11 likely to have enjoyed apathy" "IOW, 9/11 by terrorists" | Mar 24 13:20 |
| schestowitz | not much done to stop it | Mar 24 13:21 |
| schestowitz | but it's clear what took the buildings done | Mar 24 13:21 |
| schestowitz | and what took 4 planes down | Mar 24 13:21 |
| msb_ | What took WTC 1, 2, and 7 was explosives. | Mar 24 13:21 |
| schestowitz | !google globalresearch bush osama brother | Mar 24 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - George W. Bush: “My Dad Was Meeting with the Brother of Osama ... | http://www.globalresearch.ca/george-w-bush-my-dad-was-meeting-with-the-brother-of-osama-on-september-11-2001-does-that-make-him-a-terror-suspect/5436650 | Mar 24 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - George W. Bush and the Bin Laden Family ... - Global Research | http://www.globalresearch.ca/george-w-bush-and-the-bin-laden-family-meet-in-new-york-city-one-day-before-911/5332870 | Mar 24 13:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Is Kissing a “State Sponsor of Terrorism” a ... - Global Research | http://www.globalresearch.ca/is-kissing-a-state-sponsor-of-terrorism-a-terrorist-act/5332856 | Mar 24 13:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - GW Bush: “My Dad Was Meeting with the Brother of Osama on 9/11 ... | http://humansarefree.com/2015/03/george-w-bush-my-dad-was-meeting-with.html | Mar 24 13:22 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: The US intelligence depts were apathetic | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | not sure, but some people inside the system suggest so | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | like Thomas Drake | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | they ignored warnings | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | at several levels | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | even those warning not to give the hijackers a visa | Mar 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | declining them, then overriden by a higher level | Mar 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | most were saudi | Mar 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | !google report pages 9/11 saudi | Mar 24 13:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Claims Against Saudis Cast New Light on Secret Pages of 9/11 Report | http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/us/claims-against-saudis-cast-new-light-on-secret-pages-of-9-11-report.html | Mar 24 13:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - 9/11 report missing pages - CNN.com | http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/05/politics/sept-11-report-missing-pages/ | Mar 24 13:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bob Graham: Redacted Pages in 9/11 Report 'Point' to Saudis | http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Bob-Graham-911-report-Saudis/2015/01/12/id/618017/ | Mar 24 13:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Lawmakers to Obama: Declassify remaining pages of 9/11 report ... | http://rt.com/usa/232935-obama-declassify-september-11-report/ | Mar 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | So there are legitimate questions to be answert | Mar 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | *red | Mar 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | the government would rather we obsess over nonsense like a theory about laser, explosives, and whatnot... | Mar 24 13:24 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: indeed | Mar 24 13:24 |
| XFaCE | Deliberate apathy is much smarter - provides a scapegoat | Mar 24 13:24 |
| schestowitz | there can be a serious conspiracy without introducing these unbacked claims | Mar 24 13:24 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: exactly, like with Bill Gates | Mar 24 13:24 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, this could help us: | Mar 24 13:25 |
| schestowitz | like, why did the people who complain that their superior overrode their warnings and declination of visas not get much coverage? | Mar 24 13:25 |
| XFaCE | Bill Gates does some very bad things - we don't need to add in conspiracies about eugenics or what not | Mar 24 13:25 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft?s hardware certification requires that OEMs let users enter their system into UEFI ?custom? mode, where they can manually modify the Secure Boot databases and the PK. The system can be put into UEFI Setup Mode, where the user could even specify their own PK, and sign bootloaders themselves. | Mar 24 13:25 |
| schestowitz | or, why are so many hijackers saudi? | Mar 24 13:25 |
| XFaCE | Bill Gates does these shady financial things because this is the way Bill Gates always was | Mar 24 13:25 |
| XFaCE | money and power | Mar 24 13:25 |
| schestowitz | Why did the anthrax come from within the US? | Mar 24 13:25 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: This is too complicated. | Mar 24 13:25 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Will make Linux an impossible choice for many people. | Mar 24 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Why did journalists advised by unnamed gov officials asked to write about the anthrax having roots/links to iraq? | Mar 24 13:26 |
| schestowitz | [13:25] <XFaCE> Bill Gates does some very bad things - we don't need to add in conspiracies about eugenics or what not | Mar 24 13:26 |
| schestowitz | But wait, what's eugenics | Mar 24 13:26 |
| schestowitz | the word is often attributed to conpiracy nuts | Mar 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | but it's about a real belief | Mar 24 13:27 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I just mean the crap put forward by Infowars | Mar 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | that did get popularised around ww2 | Mar 24 13:27 |
| XFaCE | that Bill Gates wants to build a society etc. | Mar 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Gates does want to decrease population size | Mar 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | in a managed way, as an autocrat | Mar 24 13:27 |
| msb_ | Those political matters -- saudi hijackers, intelligence apathy, head of Air Force was in a meeting, etc. -- can always be excused in some way. But physical proof of explosives and thermite _can't_. | Mar 24 13:27 |
| cubexyz | Eugenics: e.g. Hilter killing disabled or mental ill people | Mar 24 13:27 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I guess my point is that it doesn't matter what we think Bill Gates thinks | Mar 24 13:27 |
| XFaCE | his actions are not acceptable and should be criticized | Mar 24 13:28 |
| schestowitz | msb_: there's no good proof of such a thing | Mar 24 13:28 |
| schestowitz | and it's not needed, either | Mar 24 13:28 |
| schestowitz | the planes alone can take down the buildings | Mar 24 13:28 |
| schestowitz | by softening the metal, which already has high pressure on it | Mar 24 13:28 |
| XFaCE | Bill Gates could want to create a society ruled by Japanese sex robots for all I know | Mar 24 13:28 |
| XFaCE | all that matters is that his common core activities and other crap needs to be opposed | Mar 24 13:29 |
| cubexyz | Gates is easy to understand.. he wants control over things | Mar 24 13:29 |
| msb_ | No they couldn't. The structural alloys were designed to withstand the temperature of burning kerosene. | Mar 24 13:29 |
| schestowitz | msb_: you're right to worry about 9/11, but I think you focus on what controlled opposition wants you to focus on | Mar 24 13:29 |
| XFaCE | if Bill Gates wasn't allowed to do anything like that, then he can believe all he wants | Mar 24 13:29 |
| schestowitz | It's not just Gates | Mar 24 13:30 |
| schestowitz | a lot of rich people want that | Mar 24 13:30 |
| schestowitz | but Gates does it publicly | Mar 24 13:30 |
| schestowitz | and he spins/frames that as him being "responsible adult", rich uncle Bill | Mar 24 13:30 |
| schestowitz | He'd be better off if he shut up | Mar 24 13:30 |
| schestowitz | and chose lower profile and less role in poltics, more like Rockerfeller | Mar 24 13:31 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I guess my point is that talk about guessing his personal motivations is obfuscating the real demonstrable issues of his actions | Mar 24 13:31 |
| schestowitz | his ability to bribe the papers for puff pieces will degrade over time | Mar 24 13:31 |
| msb_ | The point is that 9/11 was done by the US govt, which then used it to justify the entire War of Terror and the murders of millions of people and the destruction of several nations. That is extremely important for people to know, an to use to evaluate the current situation. | Mar 24 13:31 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, my point was at least there is a way to sign your own key without giving $$$ to verisign | Mar 24 13:31 |
| schestowitz | people already speak about what he's up to, with or without relying on corporate-owned 'news'papers | Mar 24 13:31 |
| cubexyz | I'll help people to do that, or even sell motherboards/systems myself | Mar 24 13:31 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: sure, what he's up to, but interjecting the "leader of the NWO movement" crap is just a distraction | Mar 24 13:32 |
| schestowitz | NWO is a discredited tem | Mar 24 13:32 |
| XFaCE | i.e. focus on the actions, not on guessing internal thoughts | Mar 24 13:32 |
| schestowitz | *term | Mar 24 13:32 |
| schestowitz | even though elitists like Gordon Brown used it | Mar 24 13:32 |
| XFaCE | lol really? | Mar 24 13:33 |
| schestowitz | if you use this term, you're playing into their hands | Mar 24 13:33 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: and that's my point | Mar 24 13:33 |
| schestowitz | and they can generalise opposition to some caricature | Mar 24 13:33 |
| schestowitz | like msb_ | Mar 24 13:33 |
| XFaCE | exactly schestowitz | Mar 24 13:33 |
| XFaCE | exactly my point | Mar 24 13:33 |
| schestowitz | who insists here for years that some dudes put explosives in WTC buildings without anyone noticing or blowing the whistle | Mar 24 13:33 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Now any criticism of Gates' can be dismissed as conspiratorial nonsense | Mar 24 13:33 |
| schestowitz | not really | Mar 24 13:34 |
| schestowitz | he'd wish so | Mar 24 13:34 |
| cubexyz | Gates stole PDP-10 time, used to run 8080 simulators (the other side of the story) | Mar 24 13:34 |
| cubexyz | pot, kettle, black | Mar 24 13:34 |
| XFaCE | that's why I say focus on the actions, and don't interject about personal theories about his personal motivations | Mar 24 13:34 |
| schestowitz | my wiki page about gates foundation got a quarter million hits so far | Mar 24 13:34 |
| schestowitz | this was also mention in radio and some official news sites, so it's not being treated as BS | Mar 24 13:34 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: leave that for corporate media to do | Mar 24 13:35 |
| cubexyz | people don't really trust Gates, so that's main-stream | Mar 24 13:35 |
| schestowitz | like claiming what Hillary of Obama might be thinking, feeling, etc. | Mar 24 13:35 |
| schestowitz | The GOP sites like to talk about how Obama thinks, not what he does | Mar 24 13:35 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: I'm just tired of hearing the "There are many rich people like Bill Gates who do really good things", ala The Young Turks | Mar 24 13:35 |
| XFaCE | the assumption of benevolence | Mar 24 13:36 |
| cubexyz | ask any former Digital Research employee :) | Mar 24 13:36 |
| schestowitz | I've noticed their style. It's very pathetic sometimes and comes across as potentially racist | Mar 24 13:36 |
| XFaCE | [09:35:02]<schestowitz> like claiming what Hillary of Obama might be thinking, feeling, etc. | Mar 24 13:36 |
| XFaCE | exactly my point | Mar 24 13:36 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: yeah, I noticed TYT doing that | Mar 24 13:36 |
| schestowitz | and was disgusted | Mar 24 13:36 |
| schestowitz | they repeat what they've read in Gates-bribed paper | Mar 24 13:36 |
| XFaCE | And that seems to be the general view of the public unfortuantely | Mar 24 13:37 |
| XFaCE | and goes back to my point | Mar 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | inseminated with propaganda and mythology | Mar 24 13:37 |
| cubexyz | AARD code... I haven't forgotten | Mar 24 13:37 |
| XFaCE | the infowars paranoia allows for the people with legitimate criticism of gates to be pushed aside as part of the same group | Mar 24 13:37 |
| XFaCE | although it's been getting better with the common core revelations | Mar 24 13:37 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: like you said, Gates is definitely being seen through a more skeptical eye | Mar 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | depends how you measure it | Mar 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | ask people vs ask 'journalists' | Mar 24 13:38 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: It's kinda like the situation with Gamergate | Mar 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | you might not find it much in the published (written) record | Mar 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | but if you ask people in academia, you'll see something else | Mar 24 13:39 |
| XFaCE | if you support Gamergate, you are a sexist, homophobe, harasser etc. | Mar 24 13:39 |
| XFaCE | If you don't support Gates, you are a conspiracist nutjob | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | people in the streets are more probably going to recite what's in the papers | Mar 24 13:39 |
| XFaCE | Source: "Journalists" | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | They think truth comes from authority | Mar 24 13:39 |
| XFaCE | exactly | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | outcome of school/indoctrination system | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | [13:39] <XFaCE> If you don't support Gates, you are a conspiracist nutjob | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | Jealous a more common label | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | not just wrt Gates | Mar 24 13:40 |
| XFaCE | yeah | Mar 24 13:40 |
| schestowitz | any rich people | Mar 24 13:40 |
| schestowitz | the "job creators" | Mar 24 13:40 |
| schestowitz | debate reframed | Mar 24 13:40 |
| schestowitz | poor people as parasites | Mar 24 13:40 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: How can you be for Gamergate if you support equality for men and women - how can you support Gates if his charity does so much good in the world? | Mar 24 13:40 |
| schestowitz | rich people as the solution | Mar 24 13:40 |
| XFaCE | yep | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | !google gates richer ten percent | Mar 24 13:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Haves and have nots: America's rich get richer - Journalism | http://hope.journ.wwu.edu/tpilgrim/j190/richgetricher.html | Mar 24 13:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rich Get Richer: Bill Gates Tops Forbes 400 List of Richest ... | http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/rich-get-richer-bill-gates-tops-forbes-400-list-richest-n214196 | Mar 24 13:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bill Gates net worth: He's $9 billion richer than a year ago, but most ... | http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/03/06/bill_gates_net_worth_he_s_9_billion_richer_than_a_year_ago_but_most_of_his.html | Mar 24 13:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Billionaires Worth $3.7 Trillion Surge as Gates Wins 2013 - Bloomberg | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-01-02/billionaires-worth-3-7-trillion-surge-as-gates-wins-2013 | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | not bad for a "gover" | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | "giver" | Mar 24 13:41 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: That is the great cognitive dissonance I ever seen | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | 10% in one year | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | more than bad loan shark rates | Mar 24 13:41 |
| XFaCE | How can Gates be so applauded for being so charitable, when he's still makign money? | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | tell journalists | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | those that are still in the business | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | they usually rely on funds | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates pays bbc | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - BBC Radio 4 - Today, 22/01/2015, Bill Gates: Rich should pay their ... | http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02hdq91 | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - BBC News - Bill Gates: I don't pay enough tax | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16714480 | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - BBC News - Bill Gates: 'US should pay more tax' | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-25873306 | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bill Gates: Africa needs better international aid audit - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28470815 | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates pays pbs | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - NOW: Printable Transcript - Bill Moyers Interviews Bill Gates ... - PBS | http://www.pbs.org/now/printable/transcript_inheritance_print.html | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - NOW: Printable Transcript - Bill Moyers interviews Bill Gates | PBS | http://www.pbs.org/now/printable/transcript_gates_print.html | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Triumph of the Nerds: The Transcripts, Part II - PBS | http://www.pbs.org/nerds/part2.html | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bill Gates Pays National Television (This Time PBS) for Self-Serving ... | http://techrights.org/2011/01/10/public-broadcasting-service-as-instrument/ | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates pays guardian | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bill Gates preaches the aid gospel, but is he just a ... - The Guardian | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/06/bill-gates-preaches-fighting-poverty-hypocrite-microsoft-tax | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill Gates dismisses criticism of high prices for ... - The Guardian | http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/jan/27/bill-gates-dismisses-criticism-of-high-prices-for-vaccines | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bill Gates: nice charity work, shame about the ... - The Guardian | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/29/bill-gates-charity-work-business-practices | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Inside the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation | World ... - The Guardian | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jul/12/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | wow, gogole totally spammed | Mar 24 13:42 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: They make it sound like the money gives is such a cost to himself | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | you don't even get the news anymore | Mar 24 13:42 |
| XFaCE | *he gives | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | just articles from the bribes media, which obviously has Gates puff pieces he paid for | Mar 24 13:43 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates pays allafrica | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bill Gates Pays Media to Portray Him As a Saint Alex Jones' Infowars ... | http://www.infowars.com/bill-gates-media-partners-praise-vaccine-gmo-programs-led-by-microsoft-founder/ | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - allAfrica.com: Nigeria: Bill and Melinda Gates' Big Bet | http://allafrica.com/stories/201501261666.html | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - allAfrica.com: Ethiopia: 2015-2030 Critical in Improving Lives of the ... | http://allafrica.com/stories/201502032028.html | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Mar 24 13:43 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates pays npr | Mar 24 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Timeline: Bill Gates - NPR | http://www.npr.org/news/graphics/2008/june/bill_gates/gates_timeline_04.html | Mar 24 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill And Melinda Gates: Benefits Of Global Health Aid - NPR | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php%3FstoryId%3D114220856 | Mar 24 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Gates Grant | StateImpact Florida - NPR StateImpact | http://stateimpact.npr.org/florida/tag/the-gates-grant/ | Mar 24 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bored? Try Doodling To Keep The Brain On Task : NPR | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php%3FstoryId%3D101727048 | Mar 24 13:44 |
| schestowitz | wow, the news is buried | Mar 24 13:44 |
| schestowitz | it's hard to even know that he bribed them (millions of dollars) | Mar 24 13:44 |
| schestowitz | instead it's all spam/PR | Mar 24 13:44 |
| schestowitz | which worries me actually.. | Mar 24 13:44 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: John Oliver did a good piece on that | Mar 24 13:44 |
| schestowitz | I thought the opposition will have gained some places in search engines | Mar 24 13:44 |
| XFaCE | !john oliver sponsored news | Mar 24 13:44 |
| schestowitz | so maybe Google DOES have a spam issue | Mar 24 13:44 |
| XFaCE | !google john oliver sponsored news | Mar 24 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Native Advertising (HBO ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DE_F5GxCwizc | Mar 24 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Ad Industry Execs Weigh In On John Oliver's Native Advertising ... | http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-08-05/ad-industry-execs-weigh-in-on-john-olivers-native-advertising-takedown | Mar 24 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - John Oliver On Native Advertising - Business Insider | http://www.businessinsider.com/john-oliver-on-native-advertising-2014-8 | Mar 24 13:45 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - ICYMI: John Oliver Flunks the NCAA for its High-Revenue Hypocrisy ... | http://www.boston.com/sports/2015/03/21/icymi-john-oliver-flunks-the-ncaa-for-its-high-revenue-hypocrisy-march-madness/XXtGqleGvPmi9mKkmXD2oL/story.html | Mar 24 13:45 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Gates does a lot of native advertising | Mar 24 13:45 |
| schestowitz | what's that? | Mar 24 13:46 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: online advertisements disguised as stories | Mar 24 13:47 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: with minimal, obfuscated disclaimers | Mar 24 13:47 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: studies show that most people can't tell native advertsing apart from real news | Mar 24 13:47 |
| schestowitz | it's hard | Mar 24 13:48 |
| schestowitz | if done well | Mar 24 13:48 |
| schestowitz | clever PR people | Mar 24 13:48 |
| XFaCE | and that's the point | Mar 24 13:48 |
| schestowitz | they won't give it away | Mar 24 13:48 |
| XFaCE | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DE_F5GxCwizc | Mar 24 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://www.google.com/sorry/misc/ ) | Mar 24 13:48 | |
| schestowitz | it's like trying to create a bot to fool an observer | Mar 24 13:48 |
| XFaCE | hmm | Mar 24 13:48 |
| schestowitz | and appear like a human across the keyboard and screen | Mar 24 13:48 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: something wrong with the bot | Mar 24 13:49 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_F5GxCwizc | Mar 24 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Native Advertising (HBO) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jz01c ] | Mar 24 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://ia801501.us.archive.org/7/items/bsdtalk252/bsdtalk252.ogg | Mar 24 13:53 |
| msb_ | The explosives, but not the detonators, were built in when the towers were constructed in 1969, so they could be demolished at the end of their useful life. No one but the NY Port Authority knew about it, or they would not have moved into the bldgs. | Mar 24 13:59 |
| schestowitz | so nobody involved in the construction knew and buildings are now (apparently) made with lots of explosives in them, by design. Go explain that to contractors of skyscrapers. :-p | Mar 24 14:02 |
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| schestowitz | Enemies of the US would be salivating if they know that US already implants explosives in its biggest buildings ;-) | Mar 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | Incidentally, from yesterday.. | Mar 24 14:04 |
| schestowitz | !google tower bridge london unexploded bomb | Mar 24 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Tower Bridge shut after 'unexploded bomb' found on building site ... | http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/police-called-in-after-unexploded-bomb-found-near-tower-bridge-bermondsey-10127342.html | Mar 24 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Pictured: unexploded WWII bomb found on building site near Tower ... | http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/pictured-unexploded-wwii-bomb-found-on-building-site-near-tower-bridge-which-forced-residents-to-evacuate-their-homes-10129135.html | Mar 24 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Suspected unexploded WWII bomb found near Tower Bridge - City AM | http://www.cityam.com/212211/suspected-unexploded-wwii-bomb-found-near-tower-bridge | Mar 24 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Unexploded Bermondsey WWII bomb causes chaos in London after ... | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/unexploded-second-world-war-bomb-causes-chaos-in-london-after-being-dug-up-by-builders-10128412.html | Mar 24 14:04 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: You are using the straw-man technique. According to a video that people saw in 1990, welders with security clearances were brought in to weld each next level of rebars, which is what the explosives were coated on. But the video didn't say the welders knew they were explosives. | Mar 24 14:10 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: And I never said that any other buildings were made with explosives. YOU made that up and sneered at it. That is totally dishonest. | Mar 24 14:13 |
| schestowitz | which video? | Mar 24 14:17 |
| msb_ | It's no longer available. Was removed from library shelves. | Mar 24 14:18 |
| msb_ | Back in 1990 very few people recorded it. | Mar 24 14:18 |
| msb_ | Chris Brown and a few other people saw it. | Mar 24 14:19 |
| schestowitz | ok, makes my point | Mar 24 14:20 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I'm back to posting news now | Mar 24 14:20 |
| msb_ | Run away! | Mar 24 14:21 |
| *schestowitz running | Mar 24 14:21 | |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ | Mar 24 14:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli Governments | Mar 24 14:21 | |
| msb_ | "5. In 1990 a PBS video..." | Mar 24 14:22 |
| cubexyz | if it's a PBS video someone must have a copy | Mar 24 14:34 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 24 14:35 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: That's Pubic Broadcast System | Mar 24 14:38 |
| cubexyz | I think you're missing an L :) | Mar 24 14:39 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: wrong PBS | Mar 24 14:39 |
| cubexyz | I was just thinking 1990 was the peak of the VHS era | Mar 24 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | I have some VHS :). | Mar 24 14:58 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "It was 2010 when the first 600 Linux laptops | Mar 24 15:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "only 15% of Britain is using broadband of 30 Mbps or higher" https://www.pirateparty.org.uk/blogs/david-elston/digital-freedoms #uk #internet | Mar 24 16:02 | |
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| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 24 16:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Delaware tops that list that I linked to at 10.88 Mbps. | Mar 24 16:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Not as bad as 0.6Mbps though. Holy shit. I think I might just give up and go to the library. | Mar 24 16:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fox is not news but a political party's #propaganda network, admits Fox staff http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/03/23/foxs-bernie-goldberg-debunks-oreillys-assertion/203013 | Mar 24 16:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mediamatters.org | Fox's Bernie Goldberg Debunks O'Reilly's Assertion That Fox News Is Not A Conservative Network | Video | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/jz0xy ] | Mar 24 16:05 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5816389 | Mar 24 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kneeling to those in charge https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_e18e5aadf4af4d0121ff.jpeg | Mar 24 16:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | "the location of that image is interesting- is that an amazon server being used for Diaspora?" | Mar 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz__ | And has odd/bad mimetypes for JPEG | Mar 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5810991 | Mar 24 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #idg helps people run #windows stuff on #gnu #linux http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900497/how-to-run-windows-software-in-linux-everything-you-need-to-know.html as if GNU/Linux hasn't got #freesw for everything | Mar 24 16:27 | |
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| schestowitz__ | "Yes but not all distributions are GNU....." | Mar 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Which ones are not? | Mar 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz__ | "Hi re. Kneeling to those in charge post https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaledfulle18e5aadf4af4d0121ff.jpeg Does that mean we are hosted on Amazon?!!" | Mar 24 16:28 |
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| schestowitz__ | Yes, old news and pretty bad stuff | Mar 24 16:28 |
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| MinceR | 172737 < schestowitz__> Which ones are not? | Mar 24 16:30 |
| MinceR | Android :> | Mar 24 16:30 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/pwoqRnmVkq | Mar 24 17:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 24 17:33 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 24 17:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/xOlG6buZAn | Mar 24 17:33 |
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| MinceR | http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/religious-belief-and-societal-health/ | Mar 24 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.skeptic.com | Skeptic » Reading Room » Religious Belief & Societal Health: New Study Reveals that Religion Does Not Lead to a Healthier Society [ http://ur1.ca/jz23r ] | Mar 24 18:48 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Latest Microsoft Attacks on GNU/Linux and | Mar 24 22:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Free/Libre Software | Mar 24 22:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Latest Microsoft Attacks on GNU/Linux and Free/Libre Software | Techrights | Mar 24 22:06 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny COM adds wireless and storage to i.MX6 | Mar 24 22:06 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dual SoC http://t.co/UdgyaBYymM | Mar 24 22:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny COM adds wireless and storage to i.MX6 Dual SoC | Tux Machines | Mar 24 22:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma 5.2 Bugfix Update http://t.co/1HANuYf6h3 | Mar 24 23:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma 5.2 Bugfix Update | Tux Machines | Mar 24 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Report: Linux takes leading role in | Mar 24 23:12 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IoT-obsessed market http://t.co/pPEsqW64Ov | Mar 24 23:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Report: Linux takes leading role in IoT-obsessed market | Tux Machines | Mar 24 23:12 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines HP Expands Open Source Cloud Push | Mar 24 23:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HP Expands Open Source Cloud Push | Tux Machines | Mar 24 23:12 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Five key skills for Linux job seekers | Mar 25 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Five key skills for Linux job seekers | Tux Machines | Mar 25 01:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Shell and Mutter Updated for GNOME 3.14, | Mar 25 01:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nvidia Corruption Fixed http://t.co/rCHqv0uRvR | Mar 25 01:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Shell and Mutter Updated for GNOME 3.14, Nvidia Corruption Fixed | Tux Machines | Mar 25 01:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer Live in Indiana? Can't get an erection. You might have Crystal Dick. Ask your doctor about Crystal Dick today and see if you might be eligible for a free trial of Viagra! Remember to ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. | Mar 25 04:04 |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Mar 25 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Mar 25 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | I just got my second load of laundry folded. The stuff I washed in my bathtub with a (new) toilet plunger and tide pods. It came out of there and it was like "Ahhhhhhh!". :) Much better than the $3 per load "Brump brump brump. Here's your dirty clothes back, asshole!" washing machines. | Mar 25 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | I hate front loading washing machines to begin with, much less ones that have been used by 400 people for the last 5 years. | Mar 25 05:07 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Docker's No Flash in the Pan | Mar 25 07:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker's No Flash in the Pan | Tux Machines | Mar 25 07:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny COM adds wireless and storage to i.MX6 | Mar 25 07:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Dual SoC http://t.co/7dG4DbjRoG | Mar 25 07:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Mar 25 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tiny COM adds wireless and storage to i.MX6 Dual SoC · LinuxGizmos.com | Mar 25 07:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plasma 5.2 Bugfix Update | Mar 25 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/Ht5xf8j8X7 (dot.kde.org) | Mar 25 07:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Plasma 5.2 Bugfix Update | KDE.news | Mar 25 07:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Report: Linux takes leading role in | Mar 25 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | IoT-obsessed market http://t.co/e9YCbStzEQ | Mar 25 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linuxgizmos.com) | Mar 25 07:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Report: Linux takes leading role in IoT-obsessed market · LinuxGizmos.com | Mar 25 07:50 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Five key skills for Linux job seekers | Mar 25 07:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/fSObaQrFEZ (sdtimes.com) | Mar 25 07:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sdtimes.com | Five key skills for Linux job seekers - SD Times | Mar 25 07:50 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Five key skills for Linux job seekers http://t.co/fSObaQrFEZ' | Mar 25 07:50 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/p/5820141 | Mar 25 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | Why #OpenStack is... | Mar 25 07:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5820141 | Mar 25 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why #OpenStack is different from other open source projects http://opensource.com/business/15/3/why-openstack-different-other-open-source-projects by #hp guy who is a longtime #microsoft booster (and staff) | Mar 25 07:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> opensource.com | How OpenStack compares to other open source project | Opensource.com [ http://ur1.ca/jz77b ] | Mar 25 07:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/citycloud/status/580639049871941632 | Mar 25 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@citycloud: @schestowitz Interesting! | Mar 25 07:57 | |
| schestowitz__ | "FYI: The below email was sent to the Delegations of the EPO's Administrative Council" | Mar 25 08:02 |
| *schestowitz__ working on it | Mar 25 08:03 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Heads and members of the Member States' delegations to the Administrative Council of the European Patent Organisation, dear Chairman, dear Mr Grandjean," | Mar 25 08:08 |
| schestowitz__ | "Please find attached a cover letter to the heads of delegation, and EPO-FLIER No. 16 – Five reasons." | Mar 25 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | Please find attached a cover letter to the heads of delegation, and EPO-FLIER No. 16 – Five reasons. | Mar 25 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 25 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | After the EPO's reaction to the WIPR publication," told us a source, "the EPO-FLIER team spontaneously decided to go for another publication: EPO-FLIER No. 17 [which] also reflects some statements Mr Battistelli made in the interview with NRC Handelsblad. This publication was NOT sent to the Administrative Council but distributed to EPO staff via private email addresses (as usual). | Mar 25 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | It is public, and you can make use of it and its content, in case you want to. | Mar 25 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | The previous Flier No. 16 contains an error: When mentioning the head of internal audit, | Mar 25 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | the intention was to refer to one of the external (not internal) auditors, who is a French Battistelli recruit. | Mar 25 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 25 08:13 |
| schestowitz__ | "Our sources tell us that "Mr Battistelli is even more under pressure, and he apparently has difficulties in explaining his policy: A number of articles in Dutch newspapers were published on Saturday 21 March, one of them contains an interview with Mr. Battistelli: NRC Handelsblad 'Ik ben geen zonnekoning' ('I am not a sunking'). There is a link to this article and to a google translation of it on the suepo page www.suepo.org." | Mar 25 08:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Shell and Mutter Updated for GNOME 3.14, | Mar 25 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nvidia Corruption Fixed http://t.co/D31O0fUMOz | Mar 25 08:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 25 08:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | GNOME Shell and Mutter Updated for GNOME 3.14, Nvidia Corruption Fixed - Softpedia | Mar 25 08:50 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @kdecommunity favourited 'Plasma 5.2 Bugfix Update https://t.co/Ht5xf8j8X7' | Mar 25 08:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org | Plasma 5.2 Bugfix Update | KDE.news | Mar 25 08:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Introducing The Library Operating System For | Mar 25 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux http://t.co/v63rQ84PVG (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 25 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Introducing The Library Operating System For Linux - Phoronix | Mar 25 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Introducing The Library Operating System For | Mar 25 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux http://t.co/DGMDKBfsmP | Mar 25 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing The Library Operating System For Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 25 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines One-armed manipulation robot runs Linux and ROS | Mar 25 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/VynCDNNmya (linuxgizmos.com) | Mar 25 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | One-armed manipulation robot runs Linux and ROS · LinuxGizmos.com | Mar 25 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 11 Activities for KDE Plasma | Mar 25 09:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/LAPZ2MzTWm (www.datamation.com) | Mar 25 09:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | 11 Activities for KDE Plasma - Datamation | Mar 25 09:26 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited '11 Activities for KDE Plasma http://t.co/LAPZ2MzTWm' | Mar 25 09:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Red Hat has published a new KMS driver for the | Mar 25 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | VirtIO GPU used within their Linux | Mar 25 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | virtualization stack." http://t.co/i4DkRhJdmY | Mar 25 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Red Hat Is Rolling Out A VirtIO DRM/KMS GPU Driver - Phoronix | Mar 25 09:52 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Impression Pi is everything a VR headset should | Mar 25 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | be — it just can't pull it off | Mar 25 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3pocDw6mYc (www.theverge.com) | Mar 25 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | "based around a Samsung smartphone" | Mar 25 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Impression Pi is everything a VR headset should be — it just can't pull it off | The Verge | Mar 25 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 18-GPU NVIDIA/AMD Linux Comparison Of BioShock: | Mar 25 09:52 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Infinite http://t.co/kPXBfKzrc8 | Mar 25 09:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | 18-GPU NVIDIA/AMD Linux Comparison Of BioShock: Infinite - Phoronix | Mar 25 09:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines One-armed manipulation robot runs Linux and ROS | Mar 25 09:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YWWKhBdYIk (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 25 09:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | One-armed manipulation robot runs Linux and ROS | Tux Machines | Mar 25 09:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Azul tackles Oracle with open-source Java for | Mar 25 09:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Internet of Stuff http://t.co/zwpkWgzVZm | Mar 25 09:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Azul tackles Oracle with open-source Java for Internet of Stuff | Tux Machines | Mar 25 09:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 11 Activities for KDE Plasma | Mar 25 09:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 11 Activities for KDE Plasma | Tux Machines | Mar 25 09:53 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 18-GPU NVIDIA/AMD Linux Comparison Of BioShock: | Mar 25 09:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Infinite http://t.co/wYSjE2Scct | Mar 25 09:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 18-GPU NVIDIA/AMD Linux Comparison Of BioShock: Infinite | Tux Machines | Mar 25 09:53 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.federalregister.gov | Federal Register | Request for Public Comment on Activities Under Executive Order 12333 [ http://ur1.ca/jz817 ] | Mar 25 10:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open source and DevOps aren’t mandatory, but | Mar 25 10:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | neither is survival http://t.co/OaqqMhWAwx | Mar 25 10:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source and DevOps aren’t mandatory, but neither is survival | Tux Machines | Mar 25 10:58 | |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/Deprogrammer9/status/580692152688226304 | Mar 25 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Deprogrammer9: .@schestowitz good old public relations! | Mar 25 11:39 | |
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| DaemonFC | I bought some more refilled ink cartridges for my HP printer on eBay. | Mar 25 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | The 901XL is up to $38.50 for a new HP cartridge, and the refilled cartridges on eBay are only $4.25. | Mar 25 12:34 |
| msb_ | inkjet or laser? | Mar 25 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | inkjet | Mar 25 12:36 |
| DaemonFC | For $4 each, I'm not complaining. | Mar 25 12:37 |
| DaemonFC | You can go through 10 refilled cartridges for the price of 1 HP new. | Mar 25 12:37 |
| msb_ | that's great! | Mar 25 12:37 |
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| msb_ | HP is a ripoff. I had an inkjet printer that stopped working but was out of warranty and they wouldn't even talk to me on the phone unless I paid them $75. | Mar 25 12:39 |
| msb_ | would never buy anything from HP | Mar 25 12:39 |
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| msb_ | guess they are military company used to ripping off the govt | Mar 25 12:40 |
| DaemonFC | Their printers are alright. They sell them cheap because their ink is way more expensive. | Mar 25 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | Refilled cartridges work because if they stopped you, they'd be sued. There's a warning box that pops up on the screen. | Mar 25 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | The refilled cartridges say "Close the warning box that appears.". | Mar 25 12:43 |
| msb_ | There must be a program that puts up a box that says "Don't click this box!" and if you do it puts up a picture of your whole screen with big cracks in it and makes a crashing noise. | Mar 25 12:47 |
| msb_ | A full-screen-size picture of course. That would get the adrenalin flowing! | Mar 25 12:49 |
| msb_ | Maybe people write that kind of thing only for Windows. | Mar 25 12:50 |
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| balrog | So according to mjg59, the new Secure Boot requirements do require desktop vendors to allow you to provision your own Secure Boot keys. | Mar 25 14:08 |
| balrog | If that's the case, it's a loss in convenience, but fortunately not control (yet) | Mar 25 14:09 |
| balrog | since the UI for loading new keys will be cryptic, of course | Mar 25 14:09 |
| cubexyz | folks will still want to turn off secure boot for booting msdos or any home brew OS | Mar 25 14:11 |
| cubexyz | e.g. msdos/drdos/freedos | Mar 25 14:12 |
| MinceR | and maybe they'll get in a provision for dropping warranty, including hardware | Mar 25 14:16 |
| MinceR | most folks won't care, they'll bleat on and keep rebooting windows | Mar 25 14:16 |
| cubexyz | I'll be watching coreboot more closely from now on | Mar 25 14:18 |
| MinceR | how can we convince hw manufacturers to shop coreboot? | Mar 25 14:19 |
| MinceR | intel actually put a roadblock up against coreboot | Mar 25 14:19 |
| MinceR | "intel boot guard" | Mar 25 14:19 |
| cubexyz | bug them with emails I guess | Mar 25 14:19 |
| MinceR | s/shop/ship/ | Mar 25 14:19 |
| MinceR | like they'll care | Mar 25 14:19 |
| balrog | cubexyz: based on what I see, BIOS support will be dropped in the near future | Mar 25 14:26 |
| balrog | so a shim will be needed to load msdos/drdos/freedos | Mar 25 14:26 |
| balrog | MinceR: Intel Boot Guard would make sense if they put the key somewhere other than fused inside the CPU | Mar 25 14:26 |
| MinceR | but they didn't | Mar 25 14:26 |
| MinceR | and that's how you know their true intentions | Mar 25 14:26 |
| cubexyz | balrog, with corebot we have seabios which will support real mode OSes | Mar 25 14:26 |
| balrog | cubexyz: I'm not arguing against coreboot, I'm discussing support for mainstream systems | Mar 25 14:26 |
| cubexyz | can't we just turn off intel boot guard? | Mar 25 14:27 |
| MinceR | but the campaign against the general-purpose computer will lock you out of coreboot and seabios | Mar 25 14:27 |
| MinceR | no, we can't | Mar 25 14:27 |
| balrog | cubexyz: yeah, by replacing the CPU | Mar 25 14:27 |
| cubexyz | ah | Mar 25 14:27 |
| balrog | Boot Guard actually has two modes | Mar 25 14:27 |
| balrog | Measured Boot (where the chipset sends a hash of the boot code to a TPM) is fine for coreboot and such | Mar 25 14:28 |
| MinceR | what if there's no TPM? (as there shouldn't) | Mar 25 14:28 |
| balrog | then there would be no authentication | Mar 25 14:28 |
| balrog | (a TPM doesn't have to be there for evil; these days it's generally used in enterprise for things like full disk encryption as it doesn't seem to have caught on as quickly as expected) | Mar 25 14:29 |
| balrog | the difference is that a TPM allows you to control what keys are in it, while the CPU fuses don't | Mar 25 14:29 |
| MinceR | yeah, the TPM is totally innocuous, that's why it has an Endorsement Key, which has many benign use cases as... | Mar 25 14:29 |
| balrog | eh, not totally innocuous | Mar 25 14:29 |
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| balrog | isn't the EK supposed to be randomly generated? (though of course the manufacturer could be deriving it or storing it someplace) | Mar 25 14:32 |
| MinceR | doesn't matter | Mar 25 14:32 |
| balrog | imho: being able to verify boot code is not a bad thing; having keys fused inside the CPU is | Mar 25 14:33 |
| cubexyz | so which cpus do I need to watch out for to avoid intel secure boot? | Mar 25 14:33 |
| cubexyz | er, intel boot guard | Mar 25 14:33 |
| balrog | Intel CPUs sold for building PCs would most likely have it turned off | Mar 25 14:33 |
| MinceR | what matters is that they have both halves of the key and you don't | Mar 25 14:34 |
| balrog | I expect to see it mostly in mass market / pre-built PCs | Mar 25 14:34 |
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| balrog | what I said is that they shouldn't have both halves of the key (not that this is necessarily the case) | Mar 25 14:34 |
| balrog | that doesn't even get into the potential issues of poorly generated keys | Mar 25 14:35 |
| balrog | (which could be a problem for generating and programming a key on first power-on, in addition to it possibly changing even if OTP PROM was used) | Mar 25 14:35 |
| balrog | there's no definite answer :/ | Mar 25 14:36 |
| MinceR | well, if DRM, tivoization and other lock-in keys are generated poorly, that's a good thing | Mar 25 14:37 |
| cubexyz | Dell has a fairly fast chromebox with i3 | Mar 25 14:38 |
| cubexyz | all x86 chromebooks/boxes have coreboot | Mar 25 14:39 |
| MinceR | i don't trust dHell to make reliable machines or to provide warranty for them | Mar 25 14:42 |
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| abeNd-org | ive had better luck with dell in the enterprise than lenovo/hp | Mar 25 15:35 |
| abeNd-org | cant say a thing about consumer level products though | Mar 25 15:35 |
| MinceR | i had better experience with lenovo, but i only ever had thinkpads from them | Mar 25 15:36 |
| abeNd-org | the latitude/optiplex/precision/poweredges ive usually had good hardware luck with, & when needed warranty | Mar 25 15:38 |
| abeNd-org | vostra/inspiron/dimension, hah, all junk | Mar 25 15:38 |
| cubexyz | this computer is an optiplex from 2001 :) | Mar 25 15:39 |
| abeNd-org | cripes, what is that a gx210? | Mar 25 15:39 |
| cubexyz | you're close, gx110 | Mar 25 15:39 |
| abeNd-org | oh man, thats a whitecase one eh? | Mar 25 15:40 |
| cubexyz | it's one of those slimline desktop cases | Mar 25 15:40 |
| abeNd-org | havent seen one of those in ages, about the oldest i see in use these days is the 755 (core2duo) | Mar 25 15:40 |
| cubexyz | I'm a preservationist :) | Mar 25 15:41 |
| MinceR | i had an inspiron | Mar 25 15:41 |
| MinceR | well, i still have it, i just don't trust it | Mar 25 15:41 |
| abeNd-org | i have a gx620 i was looking at making into a pfSense box | Mar 25 15:42 |
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| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/arcade-blue-screen-of-death.jpg | Mar 25 16:14 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/bsod-microsoft-vista.jpg | Mar 25 16:16 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: True clarity. | Mar 25 16:16 |
| cubexyz | :) | Mar 25 16:16 |
| MinceR | clear blue | Mar 25 16:16 |
| MinceR | also, you clearly won't get anything ddone | Mar 25 16:17 |
| MinceR | s/dd/d/ | Mar 25 16:17 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Install UFW Firewall In Linux And Secure | Mar 25 16:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Install UFW Firewall In Linux And Secure Computer From Harmful Incoming/Outgoing Connections | Tux Machines | Mar 25 16:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Companies That Support Linux: Treasure Data | Mar 25 16:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | The Companies That Support Linux: Treasure Data | Linux.com | Mar 25 16:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GParted Live Switches to Systemd, Includes | Mar 25 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | GParted 0.22.0 http://t.co/G4to5YgMzj | Mar 25 16:46 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 25 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GParted Live Switches to Systemd, Includes GParted 0.22.0 - Softpedia | Mar 25 16:46 | |
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| roy_ | LOL WTF? https://podricing.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_71aad8ffc472c3c4d2de.png | Mar 25 16:55 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/galoppini/status/580775893272006656 | Mar 25 17:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@galoppini: @schestowitz the DevOps term at least helped to recognize that a systematic approach to delivery was needed @mrhinkle @gregdek | Mar 25 17:03 | |
| roy_ | They are marketing/management terms. If we're forced to use them, like 'cloud', we dumb down and screw the industry | Mar 25 17:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Gnome 3.16 sneak peek: A preview from the eyes | Mar 25 17:13 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of a KDE Plasma user http://t.co/x2r1ydNDiQ | Mar 25 17:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Gnome 3.16 sneak peek: A preview from the eyes of a KDE Plasma user | ITworld | Mar 25 17:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat clears up its software-defined storage | Mar 25 17:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Red Hat clears up its software-defined storage options | ZDNet | Mar 25 17:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Companies That Support Linux: Treasure Data | Mar 25 17:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Companies That Support Linux: Treasure Data | Tux Machines | Mar 25 17:13 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GParted Live Switches to Systemd, Includes | Mar 25 17:13 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GParted Live Switches to Systemd, Includes GParted 0.22.0 | Tux Machines | Mar 25 17:13 | |
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| __martin__ | lol | Mar 25 17:39 |
| __martin__ | I mean | Mar 25 17:40 |
| __martin__ | OEM/ODM cartel threatened to install M$ bloatware | Mar 25 17:40 |
| MinceR | finally, just what i wanted: an unreliable gparted live version | Mar 25 17:41 |
| __martin__ | http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/23/us-china-tech-ibm-idUSKBN0MJ14X20150323 | Mar 25 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reuters.com | IBM to share technology with China in strategy shift: CEO | Reuters [ http://ur1.ca/jzb1i ] | Mar 25 17:51 | |
| __martin__ | it just feels like | Mar 25 17:51 |
| __martin__ | how much these corporations know about human brain albeit keeping from public? | Mar 25 17:54 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat clears up its software-defined storage | Mar 25 18:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat clears up its software-defined storage options | Tux Machines | Mar 25 18:18 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 25 19:34 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 25 19:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to create QR Codes easily in Gentoo Linux | Mar 25 19:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to create QR Codes easily in Gentoo Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 25 19:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | finally close to reality http://t.co/HCDshQmUBo | Mar 25 19:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice in the browser, revealed in 2011, finally close to reality | Tux Machines | Mar 25 19:35 | |
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| MinceR | http://www.androidauthority.com/first-cyanogen-phone-without-google-blu-596283/ | Mar 26 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | The first Cyanogen phone without Google could be from Blu [ http://ur1.ca/jzdom ] | Mar 26 00:20 | |
| MinceR | cyanogen shows its true colors as yet another front for microsoft | Mar 26 00:20 |
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| schestowitz__ | yes, I mentjoned it and have article draft about it | Mar 26 00:29 |
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| msb_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanogen "a colorless, toxic gas" "Cyanogen is a highly toxic compound" "Lethal dose through inhalation typically ranges from 100 to 150 mg." | Mar 26 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Cyanogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Mar 26 00:31 | |
| msb_ | "cyanogen is very toxic, as it readily undergoes reduction to cyanide, which poisons the cytochrome c oxidase complex, thus interrupting the mitochondrial electron transfer chain" | Mar 26 00:32 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: my wife says Cyanogen is Judas, like Miguel de Icaza | Mar 26 00:32 |
| msb_ | Why in the world would anyone name their software product after a deadly poison? Perhaps their subconscious mind is warning people. | Mar 26 00:34 |
| schestowitz__ | indeed | Mar 26 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | i'll quote you on that in tecrights | Mar 26 00:37 |
| msb_ | Thanks! | Mar 26 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR also | Mar 26 00:37 |
| MinceR | afaik it was named after the nickname of its first author | Mar 26 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah | Mar 26 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | is he still with them? He worked for samsung for a while, I think he quit | Mar 26 00:38 |
| MinceR | dunno | Mar 26 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Steve Ruberick or something (the surname is def wrong) | Mar 26 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | !google steve cyanogen | Mar 26 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Steve Kondik - Google+ | https://plus.google.com/%2BSteveKondik | Mar 26 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - CyanogenMod - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod | Mar 26 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - cyanogen (@cyanogen) | Twitter | https://twitter.com/cyanogen | Mar 26 00:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Steve Kondik on India, Micromax, and OnePlus | Android Central | http://www.androidcentral.com/steve-kondik-india-micromax-and-oneplus | Mar 26 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: msb_ I wrote about 4 articles about it in the past 1.5 weeks alone | Mar 26 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | and prior to that I warned about Cyanogen, since January | Mar 26 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | So this would add little new info, just present more views | Mar 26 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | I've put references and some additional details, looks like Cyanogen is a bit like Novell | Mar 26 00:41 |
| schestowitz__ | And a company to fight hard to destory now | Mar 26 00:41 |
| schestowitz__ | it tries to turn Android into Windows | Mar 26 00:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Murdoch now funds it personally | Mar 26 00:41 |
| MinceR | i wonder what's in it for murdoch | Mar 26 00:47 |
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| msb_ | Rupert Murdoch is the ultra-wealthy owner of a huge empire of newspapers and radio/TV channels with a rightwing bias. With mobile phones being the most widely used form of personal computer, and thus access device for news information, Murdoch probably hopes to get his fascist news channels onto the phones, which will make him a huge profit and swamp out people's access to accurate news sources like http://globalresearch.ca/ and | Mar 26 01:04 |
| msb_ | http://journal-neo.org/ | Mar 26 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalresearch.ca | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization | Mar 26 01:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-journal-neo.org | New Eastern Outlook | Mar 26 01:04 | |
| MinceR | and google is impeding that somehow? | Mar 26 01:06 |
| msb_ | I know nothing about mobile phones and their software -- I've never had one. But if Murdoch is contributing large sums of money to Cyanogen-Mod, he'll have a say in what apps are included for accessing news, which channels they primarily make available, and whether access of his channels funnels money to him. I have no idea what Google does regarding | Mar 26 01:11 |
| msb_ | Web access in | Mar 26 01:12 |
| msb_ | Android. | Mar 26 01:12 |
| MinceR | perhaps it's a relatively cheap way for him to try out this channel | Mar 26 01:12 |
| msb_ | The worldwide fascist empire, led by the US, UK, EU and Israel, exists to funnel the profits of commerce to the ultrawealthy, to the detriment of working people everywhere. The Internet is a great threat to this empire, because it contains sources that tell the truth about fascism, the murderous US attacks on nation after nation, etc. | Mar 26 01:17 |
| MinceR | ...and the bot is in rant-mode again. | Mar 26 01:18 |
| msb_ | So the fascist leaders would like to push people into accessing their lying sources of "news" -- like Murdoch's publications -- so the people don't realize how they're being robbed. | Mar 26 01:19 |
| msb_ | MinceR: I suggest you access Global Research and NEO, and you will learn what's going on in the world. | Mar 26 01:20 |
| MinceR | sure | Mar 26 01:20 |
| msb_ | MinceR: This is not the world of 60 years ago when the USSR was attacking Hungary. | Mar 26 01:21 |
| MinceR | yes, this is the world of 40 years ago when hungary was a faithful toady to the ussr | Mar 26 01:23 |
| MinceR | your favorite empire is a post-communist mafia state like the hellhole i have the misfortune of living in | Mar 26 01:23 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Hungary is not the whole world. | Mar 26 01:23 |
| msb_ | No, my favorite organization of nations is the BRICS coalition (plus Venezuela and hopefully Greece) whose goal is a fair economic deal for ordinary people. | Mar 26 01:25 |
| msb_ | MinceR: you should stop lying about me and putting words in my mouth | Mar 26 01:26 |
| balrog | now I remember why I quit this channel | Mar 26 01:26 |
| balrog | the politics were getting to me. | Mar 26 01:26 |
| MinceR | ooh, a "fair economic deal for ordinary people" from russia and china? | Mar 26 01:26 |
| balrog | and not the tech politics | Mar 26 01:26 |
| MinceR | you should try living there and find out how much they care about that | Mar 26 01:27 |
| msb_ | MinceR: you lie and call me a "bot", yet it's you who won't access any news sources that might give you information that differs from your current beliefs. | Mar 26 01:27 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure it's more comfortable to relay propaganda from your armchair in the usa | Mar 26 01:27 |
| MinceR | without having any idea what your favorite empire did in the eastern bloc, for instance | Mar 26 01:28 |
| MinceR | msb_: those nutcase sites are not "news sources", they're garbage. | Mar 26 01:28 |
| balrog | MinceR: exactly | Mar 26 01:28 |
| msb_ | MinceR: stop your lying about me. The USSR was not at all my "favorite empire". | Mar 26 01:29 |
| balrog | http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch.ca | Mar 26 01:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rationalwiki.org | Globalresearch.ca - RationalWiki [ http://ur1.ca/jze6b ] | Mar 26 01:29 | |
| msb_ | That article is lying in lots of different ways. For example, it says "New Eastern Outlook, a Moscow-based Russian Government propaganda site". I know personally one of the contributors to it, Janet Phelan, and she has no connection whatsoever to the Russian government. | Mar 26 01:38 |
| MinceR | as far as you know and admit | Mar 26 01:39 |
| balrog | They are Moscow-based though | Mar 26 01:39 |
| MinceR | also, i see no claims on that page about _all_ contributors being connected to the russian government | Mar 26 01:39 |
| msb_ | If you look at the articles on NEO, you'll see that few of them have anything to do with Russia. | Mar 26 01:41 |
| MinceR | not all russian propaganda is directly connected to russia | Mar 26 01:41 |
| MinceR | and not all nutcasery is, either | Mar 26 01:41 |
| balrog | the home page is pretty much all arguably pro-Russia propaganda (also it looks like lots of stuff that's unsourced) | Mar 26 01:42 |
| balrog | (as well as lots of stuff that reads like opinion) | Mar 26 01:42 |
| balrog | that said, this site is probably worth tossing into the archive bot | Mar 26 01:43 |
| MinceR | archive bot? | Mar 26 01:43 |
| msb_ | The article says that the sites are oriented toward "conspiracy theory". Here http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory it uses the definition of that term from Daniel Pipes, one of the most notorious American Fascist/Zionists. | Mar 26 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rationalwiki.org | Conspiracy theory - RationalWiki [ http://ur1.ca/8ktp1 ] | Mar 26 01:44 | |
| balrog | http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ArchiveBot | Mar 26 01:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archiveteam.org | ArchiveBot - Archiveteam [ http://ur1.ca/jzea4 ] | Mar 26 01:44 | |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 26 01:44 |
| msb_ | Read about him! | Mar 26 01:45 |
| balrog | msb_: that's an ad-hominem attack; his definition may very well still be accurate. | Mar 26 01:45 |
| MinceR | WARC is interesting | Mar 26 01:45 |
| msb_ | No, he is a right-wing zionist political propagandist. | Mar 26 01:46 |
| balrog | s/about// | Mar 26 01:46 |
| balrog | did you read his conspiracy theory article? | Mar 26 01:46 |
| msb_ | balrog: You say the Global Research articles on the home page are unsourced. | Mar 26 01:46 |
| balrog | I clicked on some and didn't see much if any sourcing | Mar 26 01:47 |
| balrog | not globalresearch, neo | Mar 26 01:47 |
| balrog | I didn't look at globalresearch | Mar 26 01:47 |
| msb_ | balrog: But those are only the beginnings of the articles. If you read them you will find sources. | Mar 26 01:47 |
| balrog | [21:46:43] <balrog>*****I clicked on some***** | Mar 26 01:47 |
| balrog | that said considering the contents of your website, I don't expect anything different from you. I vote this discussion extremely offtopic for this channel and move to end it | Mar 26 01:48 |
| MinceR | sadly, we're not that organized :) | Mar 26 01:49 |
| msb_ | Here's an article that I chose at random in NEO from Tony Cartalucci, a frequent contributer. It's full of references. http://journal-neo.org/2015/03/20/us-propaganda-op-in-korea-exposes-american-tv-as-social-engineering-tool/ | Mar 26 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-journal-neo.org | US Propaganda in Korea Exposes American TV as Social Engineering Tool | New Eastern Outlook [ http://ur1.ca/jzebx ] | Mar 26 01:50 | |
| msb_ | Here's an article by Janet Phelan with references about innovative methods for recycling garbage. http://journal-neo.org/2015/03/21/drowning-in-garbage-some-creative-solutions/ | Mar 26 01:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-journal-neo.org | Drowning in Garbage — Some Creative Solutions | New Eastern Outlook [ http://ur1.ca/jzeck ] | Mar 26 01:52 | |
| balrog | I see four outside links, two of which are to a conspiracy-theory blog, and two which don't mean much | Mar 26 01:52 |
| msb_ | balrog: what "conspiracy-theory blog"? | Mar 26 01:53 |
| balrog | (also lots and lots of clickbait headlines) | Mar 26 01:53 |
| msb_ | balrog: so you smear links to informative articles as "clickbait". | Mar 26 01:54 |
| balrog | not that one in particular. | Mar 26 01:55 |
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| msb_ | One of the topics that the so-called "rationalwiki" cites as "conspiracist" is Water Fluoridation. I can show you dozens of article proving that fluoridation reduces IQ, causes cancer, and mineralizes the pineal gland, depriving people of the melatonin and dimethyltryptamine that the gland would otherwise produce. | Mar 26 02:00 |
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| balrog | msb_: articles, or well-referenced scientific studies? | Mar 26 02:02 |
| balrog | (or academic papers) | Mar 26 02:03 |
| msb_ | balrog: One of the most frequently labelled topics called "conspiracy theory" is 9/11 being done by the US and Israel. I'm a 9/11 researcher, and I've assembled lots of good information about it here: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911 Watch the linked videos and read the linked pages. | Mar 26 02:06 |
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| balrog | I've been through plenty of this already. I don't need to lose more years of my life to this crap. | Mar 26 02:07 |
| balrog | It's not worth it. | Mar 26 02:07 |
| msb_ | balrog: That's the exact opposite of intellectual honesty and critical thinking. | Mar 26 02:08 |
| msb_ | Refuse to access any information that differs from your current model of the world and you _guarantee_ that you will never learn anything, and will remain an ignorant victim of lying propaganda. | Mar 26 02:09 |
| MinceR | intellectual honesty and critical thinking means ruminating on the same arguments over and over? | Mar 26 02:10 |
| msb_ | Note that the only reason I started talking about this stuff is because MinceR suggested motives for Murdoch contributing to | Mar 26 02:11 |
| msb_ | Cyanogen, and when I proposed a different theory he called me a "ranting bot". | Mar 26 02:11 |
| msb_ | MinceR: If you keep telling the same lies, I will keep giving the same corrections. | Mar 26 02:12 |
| balrog | I've spent enough time learning about these things and why they're ridiculously unlikely. | Mar 26 02:13 |
| balrog | You don't know this but I grew up around a lot of this crap. I am quite familiar with it | Mar 26 02:13 |
| balrog | Something tells me this isn't the first time. | Mar 26 02:13 |
| balrog | s/theory/hypothesis | Mar 26 02:13 |
| balrog | What are said lies and motives | Mar 26 02:13 |
| msb_ | "<MinceR> your favorite empire is a post-communist mafia state like the hellhole i have the misfortune of living in" | Mar 26 02:15 |
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| MinceR | msb_: i did not call you for that, but for going into your usual routine combination of tired conspiracy theories | Mar 26 02:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR refuses to quote anything I've ever written in support of that idea because he _can't_. Because he is lying. And he repeats that lie over and over again. | Mar 26 02:16 |
| MinceR | s/you/& a bot/ | Mar 26 02:16 |
| MinceR | msb_: you keep propping putler up in here | Mar 26 02:17 |
| msb_ | I have said that Putin is countering US fascist attacks like the one in Ukraine that installed a Nazi government there. | Mar 26 02:18 |
| msb_ | MinceR: your claim of "propping up" is a vague smear generalization. | Mar 26 02:19 |
| MinceR | and you have not supported those statements with any facts | Mar 26 02:19 |
| MinceR | only diatribes about how the usa is the greatest evil in the world and that putler is opposing them, which makes him a saint | Mar 26 02:20 |
| msb_ | MinceR: That the US installed a Nazi government in Ukraine? | Mar 26 02:20 |
| MinceR | multiple evils opposed to each other is a world that's apparently too complex for your mind to process | Mar 26 02:20 |
| MinceR | you keep calling it simply a "nazi government" because it contains nazi parties as a minority | Mar 26 02:21 |
| MinceR | meanwhile your favorite dictator is maintaining a brutal dictatorship that's allied with his favorite cult | Mar 26 02:21 |
| MinceR | which is also nationalist | Mar 26 02:21 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Are you saying that the statement that the US installed a Nazi government in Ukraine is not supported with any facts? | Mar 26 02:22 |
| MinceR | and where the dictator controls business | Mar 26 02:22 |
| MinceR | msb_: it is not | Mar 26 02:22 |
| MinceR | msb_: and i'm saying that your saint is more of a nazi than those people. | Mar 26 02:22 |
| msb_ | They were wearing uniforms with swastikas. shooting into the crowd from roof tops, and they took over the govt by force. | Mar 26 02:23 |
| MinceR | of course to see this one must realize that communism and nazism are mostly the same kind of fascism dressed up in different symbols | Mar 26 02:23 |
| MinceR | which of course makes it understandable how people move between the two, allegedly diametrically opposed sides freely. | Mar 26 02:23 |
| msb_ | They also shot down an airliner with 300 people and blamed it on the Russians. | Mar 26 02:23 |
| MinceR | no, the russians (or russian rebels propped up by the russian government) shot it down and blamed it on them. | Mar 26 02:24 |
| msb_ | The cockpit metal showed holes that had been made by projectiles coming in from both left and right, where the two Nazi-Ukraine jet fighters were. A ground to air missile would have exploded on one side only, and so would not have made holes coming from both sides. | Mar 26 02:25 |
| MinceR | so you allege. | Mar 26 02:26 |
| msb_ | So people report who inspected the debris. | Mar 26 02:27 |
| MinceR | who? | Mar 26 02:27 |
| MinceR | also, from what does it follow that only one missile was fired at it? | Mar 26 02:27 |
| MinceR | also, do we only have hearsay or some more tangible evidence? | Mar 26 02:27 |
| msb_ | The Nazis claimed that only one missile was fired. | Mar 26 02:27 |
| msb_ | The metal is tangible evidence. | Mar 26 02:28 |
| MinceR | i can't see it. | Mar 26 02:28 |
| MinceR | so basically there's allegedly a piece of metal that some russians saw and i'm to take your word about their word about it | Mar 26 02:28 |
| MinceR | so convincing. | Mar 26 02:28 |
| msb_ | See the non russian links in this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/evidence-is-now-conclusive-two-ukrainian-government-fighter-jets-shot-down-malaysian-airlines-mh17-it-was-not-a-buk-surface-to-air-missile/5394814 | Mar 26 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Evidence Is Now Conclusive: Two Ukrainian Government Fighter-Jets Shot Down Malaysian Airlines MH17. It was Not a ‘Buk’ Surface to Air Missile | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/hyzbd ] | Mar 26 02:31 | |
| MinceR | ooh, global"research" | Mar 26 02:31 |
| msb_ | malaysian-mh-17-cockpit-photo-shows-ukrainian-government-shot-plane.html | Mar 26 02:32 |
| MinceR | such a nice, _complete_ URL | Mar 26 02:32 |
| msb_ | http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/first-examination-malaysian-mh-17-cockpit-photo-shows-ukrainian-government-shot-plane.html | Mar 26 02:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonsblog.com | First Examination of Malaysian MH-17 Cockpit Photo Shows Ukrainian Government Shot that Plane Down Washington's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/jzenw ] | Mar 26 02:32 | |
| msb_ | The links IN the globalresearch article, you liar. | Mar 26 02:33 |
| MinceR | if you have dependable links, why don't you post those instead of that garbage? | Mar 26 02:33 |
| msb_ | http://investmentwatchblog.com/new-mh17-sensation-german-experts-point-finger-at-ukrainian-air-force-jets/ | Mar 26 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-investmentwatchblog.com | NEW MH17 SENSATION: German experts point finger at Ukrainian air-force jets. [ http://ur1.ca/jzeo2 ] | Mar 26 02:34 | |
| MinceR | and no relevant images in sight | Mar 26 02:34 |
| msb_ | I'm posting articles in order from a google search | Mar 26 02:34 |
| MinceR | and a "german" expert called Haisenko | Mar 26 02:34 |
| MinceR | i think my time is better spent sleeping than hunting for a diamond ring in the sewer network you're pointing me at | Mar 26 02:35 |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 26 02:35 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Once again, like every other time, MinceR lies and demands I give proof for my statements. | Mar 26 02:36 |
| msb_ | When I give the proof he refuses to access it. | Mar 26 02:36 |
| MinceR | yeah, demanding proof is lying | Mar 26 02:36 |
| MinceR | pointing out issues with your argumentation is also lying | Mar 26 02:36 |
| msb_ | MinceR: You lied and then demanded proof. | Mar 26 02:37 |
| MinceR | and walls of texts with no images and some hearsay are "proof" | Mar 26 02:37 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure you'd have the same standards of evidence if saint putin was accused of wrongdoing | Mar 26 02:37 |
| msb_ | The texts did not come from pro-russian sources | Mar 26 02:37 |
| msb_ | MinceR: you're changing the subject to avoid admitting that I've disproved your lies. | Mar 26 02:38 |
| msb_ | http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2014/shocking-analysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/ | Mar 26 02:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anderweltonline.com | AnderweltOnline: Shocking Analysis of the ‘Shooting Down’ of Malaysian MH17 [ http://ur1.ca/jzepx ] | Mar 26 02:42 | |
| msb_ | http://www.anderweltonline.com/fileadmin/user_upload/PDF/Cockpit-MH017.pdf | Mar 26 02:42 |
| msb_ | There's the picture of cockpit skin showing holes from bullets coming from both sides. | Mar 26 02:44 |
| msb_ | MinceR: What do you think of that? | Mar 26 02:45 |
| msb_ | balrog: ? | Mar 26 02:45 |
| msb_ | Is it still a "conspiracy theory"? | Mar 26 02:46 |
| msb_ | Looks like they've buggered off. | Mar 26 02:47 |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/580921957194944512 | Mar 26 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Good point!...Maybe "public sources"...etc. | Mar 26 09:06 | |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/Bruciebabe/status/580996003647508481 | Mar 26 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bruciebabe: @schestowitz How the spooks own you: http://t.co/KXM8lc0yrT | Mar 26 09:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bruceonpolitics.com | The spooks own you • Bruce On Politics | Mar 26 09:06 | |
| roy_ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5825467 | Mar 26 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit Over #France http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html "one of the pilots left the cockpit and could not re-enter." | Mar 26 09:11 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Impression Pi is everything a VR headset should be — it just can't pull it off http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/24/8280205/usens-impression-pi-vr-headset-hands-on "based around a Samsung smartphone" #android #linux | Mar 26 09:12 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: WW3 yet? #ibm never had qualms about working with human rights violators if it means more income http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/23/us-china-tech-ibm-idUSKBN0MJ14X20150323 | Mar 26 11:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | "USA is the champion of human rights violations - it used to reserve these violations, however, for foreigners. Now it turns on its own citizens. At least China keeps its (supposed) crimes domestic rather than terrorising the world." | Mar 26 11:20 |
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| schestowitz__ | > "Jimmy Wales's Wikimedia Foundation offered free access> to Wikipedia from mobile phones. The program, Wikipedia | Mar 26 11:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > Zero, launched in India and other parts of the | Mar 26 11:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > developing world, including Thailand, Myanmar, Morocco, | Mar 26 11:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > Ghana and Malaysia. " | Mar 26 11:55 |
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| schestowitz__ | > older: | Mar 26 11:56 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Mar 26 13:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: hi | Mar 26 13:07 |
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| MinceR | "Source for all photos: Internet" | Mar 26 13:07 |
| MinceR | well, that settles it, then | Mar 26 13:07 |
| MinceR | if it's on the Internet, it must be true. | Mar 26 13:07 |
| schestowitz__ | meh | Mar 26 13:08 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5827898 | Mar 26 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rysiek@joindiaspora.com: Apparently the Airbus crashed has been caused intentionally by the co-pilot. And yet, no talk about "#terrorism" in the media. Wonder what the narrative would be had the co-pilot been named "Ahmed" or "Rashid"... | Mar 26 13:09 | |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's the law! | Mar 26 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | Not just a good idea.... | Mar 26 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | Whenever someone says "There ought to be a law.", there probably shouldn't. | Mar 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | good for the 1% | Mar 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | lawmakers usually are funded by them | Mar 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | if not part of the 1% themselves | Mar 26 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | I call them lawfakers. | Mar 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Solicitors | Mar 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Masked as "lawmakers" | Mar 26 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | They make laws that say things can't happen. | Mar 26 13:16 |
| schestowitz__ | For their "clients" | Mar 26 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | Laws can't do that. | Mar 26 13:16 |
| schestowitz__ | !google taxas law photographing cops | Mar 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Texas Bill Makes it a Crime to Photograph Police From Within 25 ... | http://petapixel.com/2015/03/13/texas-bill-makes-it-a-crime-to-photograph-police-from-within-25-feet-of-them/ | Mar 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Texas Lawmaker Receiving Death Threats for His Bill That Limits ... | http://petapixel.com/2015/03/21/texas-lawmaker-receiving-death-threats-for-his-bill-that-limits-photographing-cops/ | Mar 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bill restricting rights of citizens to videotape police introduced in ... | http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/Bill-restricting-rights-of-citizens-to-videotape-6130903.php | Mar 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Texas lawmaker wants to make it illegal to film police — RT USA | http://rt.com/usa/240569-texas-villalba-record-police/ | Mar 26 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | Laws can only say what the state is going to do when something happens. They can't stop something from happening. | Mar 26 13:16 |
| schestowitz__ | right | Mar 26 13:16 |
| balrog | Whenever someone says "There ought to be a law.", the correct answer is "There probably already is a law!" | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | hopefully more people will escape school-age indoctrination and accept that laws are arbitrary, biased | Mar 26 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana has a new "religious freedom law". | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | hehe | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | "freedom" | Mar 26 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Code word for "You can tell the gays to leave.". | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | I love freedom | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | who would oppose freedom? | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | freedom... religion loves freedom | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | so let's love religion and give it "freedom" | Mar 26 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | I said.... | Mar 26 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of complaining about the new religious discrimination enablement law in Indiana, why not find ways to fuck with them? | Mar 26 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Can smoking marijuana be a religious belief? Why yes, it can. Part of the reason the federal RFRA was enacted was because of a case where the federal government came in and told a Native American tribe that they couldn't use peyote as part of a religious ritual. | Mar 26 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana's RFRA allows you to cite your religious beliefs as an affirmative defense if you're being sued. Maybe it's against my religion to pay medical bills. | Mar 26 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Get creative. Clog up their fascist court system. | Mar 26 13:18 |
| balrog | (like with all the stuff about internet harassment. there *are laws* on the books, but it seems like police don't want to investigate, and judges think telling people "just stop using the internet" is an acceptable answer.) | Mar 26 13:18 |
| schestowitz__ | The Religious Freedom Act? the G.O.D. Act? | Mar 26 13:18 |
| balrog | more like the Right to Discriminate Using Your Religion as an Excuse Act | Mar 26 13:18 |
| schestowitz__ | No way !! | Mar 26 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | I have a rainbow-colored credit card. I got it just to see if anyone complained. | Mar 26 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody has yet, but that could just mean that they don't know what it is. | Mar 26 13:19 |
| cubexyz | how about some motherboard laws? You have the right to disable secure boot | Mar 26 13:19 |
| cubexyz | make it part of the customer protection act | Mar 26 13:20 |
| balrog | cubexyz: if what mjg59 says is true (and I have no reason to believe it's not) I'm a lot less worried about that. | Mar 26 13:20 |
| balrog | I'm much more concerned about Boot Guard | Mar 26 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | There are some rumors this morning that suggest that Samsung has bought AMD. | Mar 26 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | I hope it's not true. I don't want the open source graphics driver project to be killed off by Samsung. | Mar 26 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | Or worse, driver support, period. | Mar 26 13:23 |
| balrog | what's samsung's track record with driver/linux support for their SoCs? | Mar 26 13:24 |
| MinceR | technically most of their SoCs only run linux :> | Mar 26 13:25 |
| balrog | do they work with upstream? | Mar 26 13:25 |
| cubexyz | another thing I should mention, it's clear to me that AMI is building BIOS/UEFI with microsoft tools | Mar 26 13:26 |
| MinceR | everyone is | Mar 26 13:26 |
| cubexyz | with coreboot you can build it with linux tools, or even port the tools to another OS | Mar 26 13:26 |
| MinceR | intel did used microsoft crap to build TianoCore | Mar 26 13:26 |
| MinceR | and everyone else is using TianoCore | Mar 26 13:26 |
| MinceR | s/did // | Mar 26 13:27 |
| cubexyz | you mean the UEFI development kit? | Mar 26 13:27 |
| MinceR | the hw-independent code at the core of uefi | Mar 26 13:28 |
| cubexyz | Tiano Core is just one type of boot loader though | Mar 26 13:29 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't be surprised if it was hacked up at m$ and distributed by intel under their own name | Mar 26 13:29 |
| cubexyz | well, blame intel I think | Mar 26 13:30 |
| MinceR | blame them both | Mar 26 13:30 |
| MinceR | blame crApple too, they jumped on the bandwagon early | Mar 26 13:30 |
| balrog | MinceR: based on what I've been told, the blame falls squarely on Intel. | Mar 26 13:31 |
| cubexyz | intel also started the whole "use microsoft tools" thing, all the way back to IBM PC | Mar 26 13:31 |
| balrog | https://github.com/Piker-Alpha/macosxbootloader -- boot.efi for older Macs. Yes, uses MS tools. | Mar 26 13:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | Piker-Alpha/macosxbootloader · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/jzo0n ] | Mar 26 13:32 | |
| balrog | MinceR: is it a coincidence that EFI uses PE as its native executable format? | Mar 26 13:32 |
| cubexyz | there's BaseTools for Unix also | Mar 26 13:33 |
| MinceR | obviously not | Mar 26 13:33 |
| MinceR | neither is that they use FAT | Mar 26 13:33 |
| balrog | well FAT is basic and easy to implement | Mar 26 13:33 |
| MinceR | or that they _mandate_ the system clock to be set to local time | Mar 26 13:33 |
| MinceR | forcing windows design flaws on other OSes | Mar 26 13:33 |
| MinceR | that is, if they allow you to boot another OS on your hardware | Mar 26 13:33 |
| balrog | you saw that about Linux have to lie that it only supports ACPI 2.0 | Mar 26 13:34 |
| cubexyz | FAT is a patent encumbered filesystem, yes? | Mar 26 13:34 |
| balrog | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/34542.html | Mar 26 13:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Vendors continue to break things | Mar 26 13:34 | |
| balrog | cubexyz: FAT with LFN is | Mar 26 13:34 |
| balrog | FAT without LFN is not | Mar 26 13:34 |
| cubexyz | ok | Mar 26 13:34 |
| MinceR | exFAT is also encumbered | Mar 26 13:34 |
| balrog | btw did you see the prior art on exFAT? | Mar 26 13:35 |
| MinceR | also, according to Matthew Garrett, a patent license is provided for purposes of UEFI | Mar 26 13:35 |
| MinceR | i did | Mar 26 13:35 |
| balrog | http://whats.all.this.brouhaha.com/2012/09/16/trs-dos-as-possible-prior-art-for-ms-patent-on-exfat-and-reference-request/comment-page-1/ | Mar 26 13:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-whats.all.this.brouhaha.com | TRS-DOS as possible prior art for MS patent on exFAT, and reference request | What's All This Brouhaha? [ http://ur1.ca/jzo15 ] | Mar 26 13:35 | |
| MinceR | oh, not on exFAT | Mar 26 13:35 |
| balrog | also see the comments | Mar 26 13:35 |
| MinceR | on VFAT | Mar 26 13:35 |
| cubexyz | just to point out you can use gcc to build BaseTools | Mar 26 13:35 |
| balrog | > I found another instance of a file system using a hash table for fast file lookup, the HP 64000 development system, introduced in 1979. The directory format is described on page 10 and 12 of the October 1980 issue of the Hewlett-Packard Journal. | Mar 26 13:35 |
| balrog | I read that, and it pretty much is the same as what is claimed in the patent | Mar 26 13:35 |
| balrog | http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1980-10.pdf | Mar 26 13:35 |
| MinceR | interesting | Mar 26 13:36 |
| MinceR | crApple claims they invented the rounded rectangle | Mar 26 13:36 |
| MinceR | micro$atan claims they invented the hash table | Mar 26 13:36 |
| *MinceR goes and files a patent on the wheel | Mar 26 13:36 | |
| balrog | if you spend enough time looking at patents, you'll probably find one. | Mar 26 13:36 |
| cubexyz | balrog, wouldn't prior use invalidate the patent? | Mar 26 13:36 |
| balrog | cubexyz: yes, but someone has to prove that in court. | Mar 26 13:36 |
| cubexyz | microsatan lol | Mar 26 13:39 |
| balrog | (FWIW, I find calling companies like that very ... off-putting, and distracting from the actual problems) | Mar 26 13:40 |
| MinceR | not my problem | Mar 26 13:40 |
| balrog | (it also makes you look less credible) | Mar 26 13:41 |
| MinceR | (to people who have already dismissed my side) | Mar 26 13:41 |
| MinceR | (it's just an excuse used by people butthurt by others not venerating their god-companies) | Mar 26 13:42 |
| cubexyz | I think M$ is prefectly reasonable, given that Microsoft does try hard to suck money out of everybody | Mar 26 13:42 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satiric_misspelling | Mar 26 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Satiric misspelling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jzo2x ] | Mar 26 13:42 | |
| balrog | MinceR: the satire is lost if they're overused. | Mar 26 13:43 |
| balrog | (i.e. context matters) | Mar 26 13:43 |
| balrog | anyway | Mar 26 13:44 |
| cubexyz | if Microsoft tops with the windows tax, e.g. every OEM offers all models of computer with no OS option, I'll stop using M$ | Mar 26 13:44 |
| balrog | I'm sure you all have seen http://www.loomcom.com/blog/2015/02/22/its-comcastic-or-i-accidentally-bought-a-house-without-internet/ | Mar 26 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.loomcom.com | It’s Comcastic, or: I Accidentally Bought a House Without Cable | An Open Book [ http://ur1.ca/jzo3b ] | Mar 26 13:44 | |
| cubexyz | s/tops/stops/ | Mar 26 13:44 |
| MinceR | if m$ stops trying to destroy my freedoms and my computers and the general-purpose computer and repays the damage they've caused i will stop using m$ & co. | Mar 26 13:46 |
| MinceR | (like that will ever happen) | Mar 26 13:46 |
| MinceR | (also, no, m$ going bankrupt or otherwise defunct doesn't count) | Mar 26 13:46 |
| cubexyz | you know what I thought might happen in the past? The Microsoft-Only Computer | Mar 26 13:46 |
| MinceR | (well, obviously, since that would not repay the damage) | Mar 26 13:46 |
| MinceR | that may yet happen | Mar 26 13:47 |
| MinceR | we're going that way, thanks to uefi and intel boot guard | Mar 26 13:47 |
| MinceR | and treacherous computing, and drm everywhere, including html5 | Mar 26 13:47 |
| cubexyz | I remember one guy warning me over 20 years ago about it | Mar 26 13:47 |
| MinceR | it probably won't be much of a computer | Mar 26 13:48 |
| cubexyz | around the time win95 came out | Mar 26 13:48 |
| MinceR | after all, fog computing finally lets them move all the data they don't want you to touch where you can't access it | Mar 26 13:48 |
| cubexyz | that guy farting around with Comcast should get satellite internet | Mar 26 13:50 |
| cubexyz | ok, he doesn't want satellite because of VPN use | Mar 26 13:51 |
| cubexyz | OLPC uses openfirmware | Mar 26 13:55 |
| cubexyz | and pre-intel Apple Macintoshes? | Mar 26 13:56 |
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| cubexyz | and of course Sun SPARC and IBM Power | Mar 26 13:56 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5828091 | Mar 26 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: French prosecutor says pilot deliberately crashed plane http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/03/prosecutor-french-alps-plane-crash-intentional-150326115612123.html "no terrorism links" (read: not Arab) | Mar 26 14:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 26 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.aljazeera.com | French prosecutor says pilot deliberately crashed plane - Al Jazeera English [ http://ur1.ca/jznqv ] | Mar 26 14:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | correction; read (not muslims) | Mar 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | the way you say it implies arab= islam, which is wrong. | Mar 26 14:02 |
| balrog | cubexyz: yeah, from what I hear the switch to EFI was not at all popular within Apple. | Mar 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 26 14:02 |
| zoobab_ | pong | Mar 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | This was intentional. The media likes to generalise so as to berate Arabs, under the guise of religion | Mar 26 14:02 |
| MinceR | because it was also a switch to x86? :> | Mar 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | ohama: ping | Mar 26 14:03 |
| balrog | technically they could have done OF on x86 | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | zoobab_: ping | Mar 26 14:03 |
| zoobab_ | what's up? | Mar 26 14:03 |
| MinceR | but that wouldn't have been broken or evil enough for apple | Mar 26 14:03 |
| balrog | or especially intel | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | 1 Profile View | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 26 14:03 |
| MinceR | it's sad that christians don't realize their religion is about as crazy as islam | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Bill Weinberg | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Senior Director, Black Duck Software | Mar 26 14:03 |
| zoobab_ | seems like you are in good connexion with those poor EPO employees | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | So Black Duck stalk me a bit right now, i must have hit a nerve | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | zoobab_: I have lots of docs from Holland | Mar 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | about 12 PDFs | Mar 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | I need to make time available today/Friday/weekend to publish those | Mar 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | There's an AC meeting today and tomorrow | Mar 26 14:04 |
| zoobab_ | yop | Mar 26 14:05 |
| zoobab_ | I am making a new campaign | Mar 26 14:05 |
| zoobab_ | online soon | Mar 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz__ | If Benoit is out, maybe they'll revoke nasty deals and agreements | Mar 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz__ | zoobab_: excellent, let me know when it's up, so I can promote it, link, etc. | Mar 26 14:05 |
| zoobab_ | yo | Mar 26 14:06 |
| zoobab_ | I still have to publish the appeal I filed 2 weeks ago at the Belgian Constitutional Court | Mar 26 14:06 |
| schestowitz__ | appeal to decision made? | Mar 26 14:06 |
| schestowitz__ | or appeal for action? | Mar 26 14:06 |
| zoobab_ | unitary patent ratificatin by Belgium | Mar 26 14:07 |
| zoobab_ | there are chances that we got late, but I am looking at filing appeal in other countries | Mar 26 14:07 |
| zoobab_ | trying to get in touch with those law professors that have written "call for sanity" | Mar 26 14:07 |
| zoobab_ | there is a weak answer on ipkat from a dutch guy | Mar 26 14:08 |
| zoobab_ | in any case we have to rock the boat | Mar 26 14:08 |
| zoobab_ | I just hope the ECJ will sink the ship, otherwise we will have to do it | Mar 26 14:08 |
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| schestowitz__ | Who? Wouter? | Mar 26 14:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Por? | Mar 26 14:20 |
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| msb__ | That FoundationDB move is amazingly evil. Can Apple just steal all the contributed open-source code? | Mar 26 15:51 |
| balrog | not to excuse Apple, but FoundationDB wasn't open source, fwiw | Mar 26 15:52 |
| balrog | here's the EULA it was under: http://web.archive.org/web/20150108074629/https://foundationdb.com/files/CommunityLicenseAgreement.pdf | Mar 26 15:53 |
| msb__ | The Forbes article says "The core of FoundationDB was closed source, but many components around it were open sourced." | Mar 26 15:55 |
| msb__ | The contributed open-source code should be publicly available, and a team of devs should write an open-source workalike for the core. | Mar 26 15:59 |
| msb__ | Apple has sure devolved a long way from its original image of being the system for artists, hippies, leftists, etc. | Mar 26 16:02 |
| cubexyz | you would need to go back to the Apple II for that | Mar 26 16:03 |
| msb__ | I'm friends with a couple of socialists who only buy Macs, even though they're expensive and crippled compared to PCs. | Mar 26 16:03 |
| msb__ | These folks do a _radio_ program, and they buy computers that have no audio input. | Mar 26 16:04 |
| balrog | I see two components (actually connectors), and some example code | Mar 26 16:05 |
| cubexyz | selective blindness | Mar 26 16:05 |
| msb__ | yep | Mar 26 16:05 |
| balrog | which while maybe useful, don't really help you very much to rewrite the core | Mar 26 16:05 |
| cubexyz | knowledgeable in social issues, not technological | Mar 26 16:05 |
| balrog | all their interesting and special stuff was in the core | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | I know how to contain the HIV outbreak in Austin, Indiana. | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | Call in the Air Force and have them drop a daisy cutter on the town. | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | If there are syringes littered in the streets and peoples yards, then what would be lost by incinerating the entire town? | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone? Anyone? | Mar 26 16:05 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: It's not as if I haven't told them repeatedly to buy vanilla PCs and use Linux. | Mar 26 16:06 |
| cubexyz | I have a friend who really likes Sun Microsystems | Mar 26 16:07 |
| msb__ | balrog: The specs of the core are known. People should be able to duplicate the capabilities. | Mar 26 16:08 |
| balrog | the API is known | Mar 26 16:08 |
| balrog | and what it's capable of | Mar 26 16:08 |
| balrog | that's not the specs | Mar 26 16:08 |
| balrog | the EULA contains a confidentiality agreement, not sure how enforceable that is | Mar 26 16:09 |
| balrog | msb__: do you encourage them to use FOSS software on their machines? that might go over better. | Mar 26 16:09 |
| msb__ | Of course. | Mar 26 16:10 |
| balrog | (rather than putting on a completely new OS and getting new machines) | Mar 26 16:10 |
| balrog | (I mean programs, not replacing the entire thing) | Mar 26 16:10 |
| msb__ | I think their software is adequate for their needs, it's the hardware that's not. They are pretty old and overworked, so no sense in changing software if they don't need to. | Mar 26 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | I got my clothesline nailed up. | Mar 26 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | Not bad for $2. | Mar 26 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'll get away without using that stupid coin-op dryer that takes two hours and $3 to dry a load of laundry. | Mar 26 16:13 |
| DaemonFC | And by "dry" I mean still wet but not wet enough that you want to put another $1.50 in it. | Mar 26 16:13 |
| balrog | Perhaps their hardware is adequate then. | Mar 26 16:13 |
| balrog | cubexyz: sun, you mean oracle? | Mar 26 16:13 |
| cubexyz | he's probably got a bunch of older suns | Mar 26 16:13 |
| balrog | heh | Mar 26 16:14 |
| msb__ | balrog: These folks do a _radio_ program, and they buy computers that have no audio input. | Mar 26 16:16 |
| balrog | msb__: that seems like a minor issue that's easy to work around. | Mar 26 16:16 |
| balrog | a lot of newer PCs don't have an onboard audio input either | Mar 26 16:17 |
| msb__ | they would have to buy an expensive audio to USB or Firewire external adapter | Mar 26 16:17 |
| balrog | (and most PCs have a "mic" input) | Mar 26 16:17 |
| msb__ | but their iMacs don't | Mar 26 16:17 |
| balrog | do they need balanced mic in or just plain line in? how many inputs do they need? | Mar 26 16:18 |
| balrog | interfaces that don't have high-quality preamplification (equivalent to a line in jack) are cheap | Mar 26 16:19 |
| balrog | under $10 cheap | Mar 26 16:19 |
| balrog | once you start getting into interfaces with 2 or more XLR jacks, you're gonna pay | Mar 26 16:19 |
| msb__ | They should have two mikes and a mixer. | Mar 26 16:20 |
| msb__ | Probably about $125. | Mar 26 16:21 |
| msb__ | Plus the line to USB adapter. | Mar 26 16:21 |
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| msb__ | My cheap old PC has two mike inputs and a stereo line input. | Mar 26 16:22 |
| balrog | they also probably sound like crap | Mar 26 16:23 |
| msb__ | No, they sound fine. | Mar 26 16:23 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5828315 | Mar 26 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #lufthansa logo http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7yB-eeGviiI/TUxzs0B1WwI/AAAAAAAAI2w/Hz21r8FP7uQ/s1600/Lufthansa_Logo25.png #Luftwaffe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftwaffe#/media/File:Luftwaffe_eagle.svg | Mar 26 16:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | "And this is hinting at what exactly?" | Mar 26 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | Luftwaffe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jzp20 ] | Mar 26 16:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | Not a wise choice of logo | Mar 26 16:24 |
| msb__ | I talk halfway around the world on IHU and it sounds like we're in the same room. | Mar 26 16:24 |
| msb__ | schestowitz__: I don't think they look similar at all. But the Lufthansa one looks like Daffy Duck with a hat. | Mar 26 16:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines linux outgrew capacity for one unified | Mar 26 16:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxplumbersconf.org | Containers Microconference Accepted into 2015 Linux Plumbers Conference – | Mar 26 16:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxplumbersconf.org | Checkpoint/Restart Microconference Accepted into 2015 Linux Plumbers Conference – | Mar 26 16:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxplumbersconf.org | Energy-Aware Scheduling and CPU Power Management Microconference Accepted into 2015 Linux Plumbers Conference – | Mar 26 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BQ Is Cleaning Up Their Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu | Mar 26 16:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | BQ Is Cleaning Up Their Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Kernel - Phoronix | Mar 26 16:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands-On: Linux UEFI multi-boot, part two | Mar 26 16:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-On: Linux UEFI multi-boot, part two | ZDNet | Mar 26 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodacious Bodhi Broadens Linux Desktop | Mar 26 16:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Bodacious Bodhi Broadens Linux Desktop | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Mar 26 16:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu And Ericsson Partner To Helps Telcos | Mar 26 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Achieve Flexibility http://t.co/XVTWMlnwO5 | Mar 26 16:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu And Ericsson Partner To Helps Telcos Achieve Flexibility | Tux Machines | Mar 26 16:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EP IT department: ‘We should give openness | Mar 26 16:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | example’ http://t.co/93JE3TUYfF | Mar 26 16:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EP IT department: ‘We should give openness example’ | Tux Machines | Mar 26 16:41 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/581135792585760768 | Mar 26 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @KhaledBeydoun @schestowitz I don't yet know whether this act was meant to cause terror. But it certainly disregarded the safety of others. | Mar 26 16:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | I think the point is, Arabs often assumed to be killing for political reasons, even while evidence is lacking | Mar 26 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5828315 | Mar 26 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #lufthansa logo http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7yB-eeGviiI/TUxzs0B1WwI/AAAAAAAAI2w/Hz21r8FP7uQ/s1600/Lufthansa_Logo25.png #Luftwaffe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftwaffe#/media/File:Luftwaffe_eagle.svg | Mar 26 16:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | Luftwaffe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jzp20 ] | Mar 26 16:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Well, a bird logo is quite an obvious choice for an aviation company, isn't it? But the Lufthansa bird is actually a crane, not an eagle, so the comparison seems a little far fetched." | Mar 26 16:55 |
| schestowitz__ | many airlines don't choose birds; in fact, Saudi Arabia chose swords | Mar 26 16:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/581137028684910592 | Mar 26 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz @KhaledBeydoun I agree that sadly is the case and I certainly don't think that personally. Sadly our media have islamophobia. | Mar 26 16:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/581137201649446912 | Mar 26 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Call it: A) JANUS B) CLINTON | Mar 26 16:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5828872 | Mar 26 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/KhaledBeydoun/status/581118117130215424 | Mar 26 16:57 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I was just talking about this in a broader context yesterday about how there have been more acts of terrorism in the US perpetrated by white fundamentalists, be they Christian or anti-government, or both, than by outside agents who made it in and every time they have been played off as the single-incident acts of lone crazy people." | Mar 26 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KhaledBeydoun: Repeated refusal to name acts of mass violence by Whites "terrorism" deepens seeing it as an exclusively Arab/Muslim act. #Germanwings | Mar 26 16:57 | |
| schestowitz__ | The shootings in Copenhagen could be described as hate crime, not terrorism as media frames it | Mar 26 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice Now Toward Cloud Based Package, Get | Mar 26 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ready To Welcome LibreOffice Online | Mar 26 16:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Now Toward Cloud Based Package, Get Ready To Welcome LibreOffice Online | Tux Machines | Mar 26 16:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Unboxing - Video | Mar 26 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | > http://t.co/qEvUazOa3t (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 26 16:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Unboxing - Video - Softpedia | Mar 26 16:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Wear smartwatches: The benefits for | Mar 26 16:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | professionals http://t.co/SBRAAon9gR | Mar 26 16:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Android Wear smartwatches: The benefits for professionals - TechRepublic | Mar 26 16:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A review of Android for Work: Dual-persona | Mar 26 16:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support comes to Android http://t.co/GDHW9mXEwI | Mar 26 16:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (arstechnica.com) | Mar 26 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | A review of Android for Work: Dual-persona support comes to Android | Ars Technica | Mar 26 16:58 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @jfoxdev @tuxmachines Just as the wrist watch cast a | Mar 26 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | shadow on the sundial, so too will be the fate | Mar 26 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of the smart phone - cast aside by the | Mar 26 18:11 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Poll: Linux Use by Software Developers & | Mar 26 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Researchers http://t.co/iO45s2YJXN | Mar 26 18:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Poll: Linux Use by Software Developers & Researchers | Mar 26 18:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 26/3/2015: GNOME 3.16 Officially Released | Mar 26 19:03 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/9EwedRKu0x | Mar 26 19:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/3/2015: GNOME 3.16 Officially Released | Techrights | Mar 26 19:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 26 19:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/8TjcWE3eeM | Mar 26 19:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Mar 26 19:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/9QcIppUBxA | Mar 26 20:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 26 20:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/XLg0FPRGb1 | Mar 26 20:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 26 20:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/mmx1ihzAmq | Mar 26 20:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Mar 26 20:05 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5829606 | Mar 26 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/581157612063985664 | Mar 26 20:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Think of the revenue." | Mar 26 20:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@emptywheel: Lockheed's had crazy week. Going fr earnings call expressing worry abt PEACE BREAKING OUT to the war in Yemen w/best customers USING planes | Mar 26 20:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | Bailout with bombs | Mar 26 20:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Grooming Ramji http://ostatic.com/blog/cloud-foundry-summit-speakers-and-agenda-arrive | Mar 26 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Cloud Foundry Summit: Speakers and Agenda Arrive [ http://ur1.ca/jzqdu ] | Mar 26 20:32 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5830350 | Mar 26 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Samsung Rumored to Be Eyeing #AMD Acquisition http://www.eweek.com/blogs/first-read/samsung-rumored-to-be-eyeing-amd-acquisition.html | Mar 26 20:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eweek.com | Samsung Rumored to Be Eyeing AMD Acquisition [ http://ur1.ca/jzqg7 ] | Mar 26 20:45 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Please no." | Mar 26 20:45 |
| msb__ | AMD is the only manufacturer of powerful x86-type desktop CPUs that is standing up to the fascist Intel. It is extremely important that AMD remain independent and able to keep doing this. | Mar 26 20:58 |
| msb__ | Microsoft and Intel are both working together to implement restrictions like UEFI that will allow them and the | Mar 26 21:00 |
| msb__ | Microsoft and Intel are both working together to implement restrictions like UEFI that will allow them and the US Fascist Empire to control everyone's computing. AMD is outside of this vicious gang. | Mar 26 21:00 |
| MinceR | does amd really stand up to intel? | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Won't Let People Wipe (Off) Windows | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | But Happily Wipes Android, Wipes Android Apps | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Through Cyanogen http://t.co/2wNl1wd8GJ | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 26 21:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Won’t Let People Wipe (Off) Windows But Happily Wipes Android, Wipes Android Apps Through Cyanogen and Blackmailed ‘Partners’ | Techrights | Mar 26 21:03 | |
| balrog | can we please not use inflammatory language like "US Fascist Empire" here? | Mar 26 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pillars Of Eternity RPG Released For Linux, | Mar 26 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Early Port Report Included | Mar 26 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jpdNmWhIou (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 26 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Pillars Of Eternity RPG Released For Linux, Early Port Report Included | GamingOnLinux | Mar 26 21:03 | |
| balrog | it does not add to the conversation | Mar 26 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) | Mar 26 21:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/rYTH1FfGhC (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 26 21:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) | Tux Machines | Mar 26 21:03 | |
| msb__ | balrog: It is the US | Mar 26 21:03 |
| balrog | then just say "US" | Mar 26 21:03 |
| msb__ | balrog: It is the US Fascist Empire that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq after 2001 and murdered 2,000,000 in those nations. It is the American | Mar 26 21:04 |
| cubexyz | technically there is also VIA and MCST making x86 cpus | Mar 26 21:05 |
| cubexyz | and naturally you can go right off x86 if you want | Mar 26 21:06 |
| MinceR | and they're all weak, including amd | Mar 26 21:06 |
| msb__ | balrog: Fascist Empire that destroyed the nation of Libya, which thanks to Qaddafi's sharing of oil revenues with the people had the highest standard of living in Africa. | Mar 26 21:06 |
| balrog | msb__: this is #techrights, not ##politics. | Mar 26 21:06 |
| msb__ | balrog: It is the American | Mar 26 21:06 |
| cubexyz | IBM used to make x86 cpus | Mar 26 21:06 |
| MinceR | which were cyrix designs, afaik | Mar 26 21:07 |
| msb__ | balrog: It is the American Fascist Empire that installed a Nazi government in Ukraine. | Mar 26 21:07 |
| MinceR | and here we go with the saint putin bullshit routine again | Mar 26 21:07 |
| balrog | seriously, stop spewing disinformation and Putinist propaganda about Ukraine. | Mar 26 21:07 |
| MinceR | and we almost had reasonable discussion on topic | Mar 26 21:07 |
| MinceR | and cyrix was bought by via since then | Mar 26 21:08 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: balrog: I am telling the truth about these things. If it wasn't the American Fascist Empire that did these attacks and mass murders, who did? | Mar 26 21:08 |
| MinceR | stop trying to derail the discussion | Mar 26 21:09 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I proved to you that Nazi Ukraine jet fighters shot down the Malaysian airliner. I showed you the picture but you ignored it. | Mar 26 21:09 |
| MinceR | no, you did not | Mar 26 21:10 |
| MinceR | that picture was unsourced | Mar 26 21:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Arrives with ARM, ARM64, | Mar 26 21:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and IPv6 Fixes, Many Updated Drivers | Mar 26 21:10 |
| balrog | Did you read the Bellingcat report? | Mar 26 21:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Y2cZvRJGT7 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 26 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Arrives with ARM, ARM64, and IPv6 Fixes, Many Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Mar 26 21:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google makes deploying software on its cloud a | Mar 26 21:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | trivial task http://t.co/yWWkCSkUxT | Mar 26 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google makes deploying software on its cloud a trivial task | Tux Machines | Mar 26 21:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel Source Code of BQ Aquaris E4.5 | Mar 26 21:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Edition Published on GitHub | Mar 26 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Source Code of BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Published on GitHub | Tux Machines | Mar 26 21:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Android's Winning The Battle Right Now | Mar 26 21:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6LKHB4DUl6 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 26 21:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Android's Winning The Battle Right Now | Tux Machines | Mar 26 21:11 | |
| msb__ | balrog: Bellingcat? | Mar 26 21:11 |
| balrog | Yes | Mar 26 21:11 |
| msb__ | what is it | Mar 26 21:11 |
| balrog | They collected pictures, video, and other reports from social media and other places indicating Russian Buk movements, and put together a timeline that indicates that it's highly likely that a Buk was used to shoot down MH17. True, it's circumstantial evidence, but it's very thorough. | Mar 26 21:13 |
| balrog | https://www.bellingcat.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Origin-of-the-Separatists-Buk-A-Bellingcat-Investigation1.pdf | Mar 26 21:13 |
| msb__ | MinceR: "that picture was unsourced" I gave the name and article of the pilot who saved the picture before youtube removed it. What sources do you accept? | Mar 26 21:14 |
| MinceR | msb__: for starters, where did that site get the pictures from | Mar 26 21:14 |
| MinceR | they said "Source for all photos: Internet" | Mar 26 21:14 |
| MinceR | which is a red flag | Mar 26 21:14 |
| msb__ | The article I gave described it. | Mar 26 21:15 |
| MinceR | also, one of the supposed evidence they link to is a 404 page | Mar 26 21:15 |
| msb__ | What sources do you accept? | Mar 26 21:15 |
| MinceR | less suspicious ones than that | Mar 26 21:15 |
| msb__ | Only govt/corporatist/fascist media, right? | Mar 26 21:15 |
| MinceR | you would call all media that shows putin in a negative light "govt/corporatist/fascist", right? | Mar 26 21:16 |
| msb__ | Only ones that lie for the American Fascist Empire. | Mar 26 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) | Mar 26 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ydt1wqWB4z (www.techrepublic.com) | Mar 26 21:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) - TechRepublic | Mar 26 21:16 | |
| msb__ | This has nothing to do with your bete-noir Putin. | Mar 26 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Arrives with ARM, ARM64, | Mar 26 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and IPv6 Fixes, Many Updated Drivers | Mar 26 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qnLl1QNpLD (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 26 21:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Arrives with ARM, ARM64, and IPv6 Fixes, Many Updated Drivers - Softpedia | Mar 26 21:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel Source Code of BQ Aquaris E4.5 | Mar 26 21:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Edition Published on GitHub | Mar 26 21:17 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ya2EngqwDr (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 26 21:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel Source Code of BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Published on GitHub - Softpedia | Mar 26 21:17 | |
| msb__ | I guess the circumstantial evidence in the Bellingcat report can't account for the bidirectional holes in the metal. | Mar 26 21:18 |
| balrog | now where's that sourced from? | Mar 26 21:19 |
| MinceR | some random guy who put together a halfbaked website somewhere, apparently | Mar 26 21:19 |
| MinceR | whose source is "Internet" | Mar 26 21:19 |
| MinceR | these russian fascists aren't even trying anymore, it seems | Mar 26 21:20 |
| msb__ | It is the US Fascist Empire that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq after 2001 and murdered 2,000,000 in those nations. It is the American Fascist Empire that destroyed the nation of Libya, which thanks to Qaddafi's sharing of oil revenues with the people had the highest standard of living in Africa. It is the American Fascist Empire that installed a Nazi government in Ukraine. If it wasn't the American Fascist Empire that did these | Mar 26 21:21 |
| msb__ | attacks and mass murders, who and what did? | Mar 26 21:22 |
| msb__ | That is the brontosaurus in the room that you are trying to get us to ignore. | Mar 26 21:22 |
| msb__ | You will not get pictures sourced by the corporate/govt/fascist media because they all tell the same lies in order to distract people from the attacks and mass murders that I just listed. | Mar 26 21:24 |
| MinceR | so basically we're to take your word for it because you're very angry | Mar 26 21:25 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I never said any such thing. You are lying again. | Mar 26 21:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, you used different words | Mar 26 21:26 |
| MinceR | and as we know, everything can only be expressed by one word in the english language | Mar 26 21:27 |
| msb__ | http://globalresearch.ca/ and http://journal-neo.org/ provide reports from many different people from many nations. But MinceR and balrog call them "nutcase garbage sites" but you give no justification for labelling them that way. | Mar 26 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalresearch.ca | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization | Mar 26 21:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-journal-neo.org | New Eastern Outlook | Mar 26 21:29 | |
| MinceR | yeah, from many nations, including russia and russia | Mar 26 21:30 |
| MinceR | justification was already given | Mar 26 21:30 |
| msb__ | Many of the reports come from people in nations other than | Mar 26 21:30 |
| msb__ | Many of the reports come from people in nations other than Russia. | Mar 26 21:30 |
| msb__ | Probably most of them. | Mar 26 21:30 |
| msb__ | MinceR: No you are lying. Your justification was a website that quoted Daniel Pipes, an American Fascist associated with Stanford University's Hoover Institution, the group that programmed Yeltsin to destroy the Russian economy by selling off the state assets at a few percent of their value to ultrawealthy businessmen. | Mar 26 21:34 |
| MinceR | msb__: your "justification" was a website that reposts crap from RT. | Mar 26 21:35 |
| msb__ | The two websites I gave post information from many other sites than Russia Today. | Mar 26 21:36 |
| MinceR | yes, they also quote "the Internet" | Mar 26 21:36 |
| MinceR | and pages that don't exist | Mar 26 21:36 |
| msb__ | The site you gave quoted Daniel Pipes _defining_ "conspiracy" in order to cover up the fascist activities that he favors. | Mar 26 21:37 |
| msb__ | The Internet is the way the human race communicates today. | Mar 26 21:37 |
| msb__ | A page that no longer exists in no way disqualifies an entire article. | Mar 26 21:38 |
| msb__ | It is the US Fascist Empire that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq after 2001 and murdered 2,000,000 in those nations. It is the American Fascist Empire that destroyed the nation of Libya, which thanks to Qaddafi's sharing of oil revenues with the people had the highest standard of living in Africa. It is the American Fascist Empire that installed a Nazi government in Ukraine. If it wasn't the American Fascist Empire that did these | Mar 26 21:39 |
| msb__ | attacks and mass murders, who and what did? | Mar 26 21:39 |
| MinceR | hearsay or fabrication is hardly sufficient evidence to convict someone of shooting down an airplane. | Mar 26 21:39 |
| msb__ | Neither is circumstantial evidence that you admit doesn't prove anything. | Mar 26 21:40 |
| msb__ | Here's an article about the US-backed Nazi takeover of Ukraine, showing the Nazis with swastika-like symbols on their uniforms. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554 | Mar 26 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ] | Mar 26 21:43 | |
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| msb__ | MinceR: It is the US Fascist Empire that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq after 2001 and murdered 2,000,000 in those nations. It is the American Fascist Empire that destroyed the nation of Libya, which thanks to Qaddafi's sharing of oil revenues with the people had the highest standard of living in Africa. It is the American Fascist Empire that installed a Nazi government in Ukraine. If it wasn't the American Fascist Empire that did | Mar 26 21:45 |
| msb__ | these attacks and mass murders, who and what did? | Mar 26 21:45 |
| MinceR | msb__: stop highlighting me in your crapflood | Mar 26 21:46 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Why won't you answer that question? | Mar 26 21:46 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Why won't you answer that question? | Mar 26 21:46 |
| *MinceR sets mode +q #techrights *!*msb*@* | Mar 26 21:47 | |
| *tessier (~treed@wsip-98-175-106-200.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #techrights | Mar 26 21:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Android's Winning The Battle Right Now | Mar 26 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9MYvDw5l6l (www.forbes.com) | Mar 26 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/jzqwq | Mar 26 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Why Android's Winning The Battle Right Now - Forbes | Mar 26 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OS X 10.10 vs. Ubuntu 15.04 vs. Fedora 21 | Mar 26 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tests: Linux Sweeps The Board | Mar 26 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/OKTvKZ8buE (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 26 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/jzqwr | Mar 26 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OS X 10.10 vs. Ubuntu 15.04 vs. Fedora 21 Tests: Linux Sweeps The Board | Tux Machines | Mar 26 22:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Allwinner Continues Jerking Around The | Mar 26 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source Community http://t.co/Cj8yh2EAb3 | Mar 26 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 26 22:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/jzqwt | Mar 26 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Allwinner Continues Jerking Around The Open-Source Community | Tux Machines | Mar 26 22:09 | |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: can you please remove the quiet flag? It's against the spirit of the site, even when there's strong disagreements... | Mar 26 22:23 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Mar 26 22:25 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz__ | Mar 26 22:26 | |
| *schestowitz__ gives voice to msb__ | Mar 26 22:26 | |
| MinceR | sure | Mar 26 22:26 |
| *MinceR sets mode -q #techrights *!*msb*@* | Mar 26 22:26 | |
| schestowitz__ | thanks | Mar 26 22:27 |
| MinceR | i thought filling up the channel with repeated garbage was more against the spirit of the site, but it's your call | Mar 26 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | msb__: stick to the topic | Mar 26 22:28 |
| schestowitz__ | FOSS/Linux/TR | Mar 26 22:28 |
| msb__ | . | Mar 26 22:28 |
| schestowitz__ | Politics are for other channels, like -social | Mar 26 22:28 |
| msb__ | schestowitz__: Then will you order MinceR to stop attacking and lying about me. | Mar 26 22:29 |
| schestowitz__ | it's not him who put politics here | Mar 26 22:29 |
| *schestowitz__ scrolls back.. | Mar 26 22:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | msb__: you're gulible enough to fall for anything Russian propaganda says, and it in no way related to Linux | Mar 26 22:31 |
| msb__ | What I wrote has nothing to do with Russia. | Mar 26 22:31 |
| msb__ | I said, "Microsoft and Intel are both working together to implement restrictions like UEFI that will allow them and the US Fascist Empire to control everyone's computing. AMD is outside of this vicious gang." | Mar 26 22:31 |
| msb__ | That's when balrog and mincer started in on me. | Mar 26 22:32 |
| schestowitz__ | You use this FOSS channel to spread your myths about US bombing its own sskyscrapers, installing Nazis, taking down planes by proxy.. | Mar 26 22:32 |
| balrog | the words "Fascist Empire" in that statement only are there to provoke a political reaction | Mar 26 22:32 |
| msb__ | They are fact, not myth. | Mar 26 22:32 |
| schestowitz__ | There are forums for stuff like that and quite frankly they're not respected | Mar 26 22:32 |
| balrog | they are wholly unnecessary in the discussion | Mar 26 22:32 |
| schestowitz__ | putting that stuff here disgraces the site | Mar 26 22:32 |
| balrog | they are opinion, not fact. | Mar 26 22:32 |
| msb__ | balrog is lying. | Mar 26 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | sugh | Mar 26 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | either way, let's stick to topic | Mar 26 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | no politics | Mar 26 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | only tuxmachines is echoed here because it's FOSS and Linux | Mar 26 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | Politics are in -social | Mar 26 22:34 |
| msb__ | AMD's opposition to Intel and Microsoft has strong implications for what you call "political". | Mar 26 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | Samsung wants to buy AMD, some sources say now... | Mar 26 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | But it's not poltiical | Mar 26 22:36 |
| msb__ | If they stop AMD's non-cooperation with Intel and Microsoft, then it will be very "political" indeed. | Mar 26 22:36 |
| balrog | there's plenty of politics within FOSS. Such as GPL vs BSD licensing, and such. But that's not at all related to geopolitics or Russia or Ukraine or the USA being "fascist" | Mar 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | AMD is worth very little now | Mar 26 22:37 |
| msb__ | schestowitz__: Isn't that why you wrote "Please no." ? | Mar 26 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | and whatever happens do it bears little impact on the software world | Mar 26 22:38 |
| balrog | isn't AMD's strongest business their graphics chip market? | Mar 26 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | either way, x86 as a whole is having issues | Mar 26 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | mobile devices eschew x86 | Mar 26 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | so it's ARM, Qualcomm even NVIDIA with Tegra that appear to be selling more units now | Mar 26 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | balrog: ATI didn't quite die, I guess.. | Mar 26 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | But AMD suffered a lot from the bribes and other illegal tactics of Intel | Mar 26 22:39 |
| balrog | ATI (AMD's graphics branch) is still going strong, and they are much more cooperative with FOSS than NVidia | Mar 26 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Intel is also cooperative, but not competitive performance-wise | Mar 26 22:40 |
| balrog | Intel's fortunately been improving their graphics side | Mar 26 22:40 |
| balrog | Annoyingly, Linux users tend to prefer nvidia, just because their proprietary driver is much less bug-ridden than AMD's, and the open source drivers are a lot slower. | Mar 26 22:40 |
| schestowitz__ | If only there was some real FOSS champion in the GPU scenes... those that tried fades after a while... Phoronix chronicled the stories of a few | Mar 26 22:41 |
| balrog | What's interesting is that nvidia has contributed Tegra code to Nouveau | Mar 26 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I didn't know | Mar 26 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I hate Tegra after I bought a Chromebook and worked hard to put Linux on it | Mar 26 22:41 |
| balrog | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2014-January/053028.html | Mar 26 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [RFC 00/16] drm/nouveau: initial support for GK20A (Tegra K1) [ http://ur1.ca/jzr23 ] | Mar 26 22:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | It still doesn't work right, it also uses BGR instead of RGB | Mar 26 22:42 |
| schestowitz__ | so the colours are still all wrong, no dual-head, etc. | Mar 26 22:42 |
| balrog | ugh... | Mar 26 22:42 |
| msb__ | Mobile devices with small screens and difficult keyboards are not suited to intelligent conscious detailed discussions that are necessary to overcome the huge flood of fascist propaganda. It requires desktops and laptops. | Mar 26 22:42 |
| balrog | what's that even supposed to mean | Mar 26 22:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Tegra needs better drivers | Mar 26 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | !google NVIDIA torvalds wants to sell | Mar 26 22:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Linus Torvalds: Nvidia, Fuck You! - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DiYWzMvlj2RQ | Mar 26 22:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - You've Got To Watch Thi Video of Linux Torvalds Flipping Off Nvidia ... | http://www.businessinsider.com/youve-got-to-watch-thi-video-of-linux-torvalds-flipping-off-nvidia-2012-6 | Mar 26 22:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Linus Torvalds Gives Nvidia the Finger. Literally | WIRED | http://www.wired.com/2012/06/torvalds-nvidia-linux/ | Mar 26 22:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Linus Torvalds F-bombs Nvidia over lack of Linux support | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-f-bombs-nvidia-over-lack-of-linux-support/ | Mar 26 22:43 |
| balrog | schestowitz__: are you running a mainline kernel? | Mar 26 22:43 |
| MinceR | it would be nice to see how (if at all) AMD resists the war on the general purpose computer | Mar 26 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | they try to build an Android-Tegra empire but can't be bothered with mainline Linux support | Mar 26 22:43 |
| balrog | the problem with a lot of this stuff is that it often takes a while because it trickles down to distros. | Mar 26 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah, beat me to it, on mainline | Mar 26 22:44 |
| balrog | mainline isn't always perfect either | Mar 26 22:44 |
| balrog | I've got a freescale i.mx6 embedded box | Mar 26 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe future versions of chrobuntu will work better | Mar 26 22:44 |
| balrog | and mainline *finally* supports pretty much everything | Mar 26 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | for now, it's a very limited laptop | Mar 26 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | also no sound support | Mar 26 22:44 |
| balrog | but for the longest time I've had to run 3.14 with the i.mx6 patch set | Mar 26 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | wasted many hours wrestling to try to get it to work | Mar 26 22:44 |
| balrog | :/ | Mar 26 22:45 |
| balrog | this an acer Chromebook 13 with tegra K1? | Mar 26 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: I think AMD does lots of barebones stuff, inc. in servers | Mar 26 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | mine is HP 14 | Mar 26 22:46 |
| MinceR | are they doing anything about laptops? | Mar 26 22:46 |
| balrog | is it a K1? | Mar 26 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | I think a newer gen of Tegra | Mar 26 22:46 |
| balrog | looks like a K1 | Mar 26 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | !google processor hp chromebook 14 | Mar 26 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Chrome Notebook HP Chromebook | HP® Official Site | http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/chromebooks/overview.html | Mar 26 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Google Chrome Notebook HP Chromebook Specs | HP® Official Site | http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/chromebooks/specs.html | Mar 26 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - HP Chromebook 14" with Intel Processor, 4GB Memory, 16GB SSD ... | http://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Chromebook-14-with-Intel-Processor-4GB-Memory-16GB-SSD-Chrome-OS-and-Included-4G-Mobile-Internet-Service-200MB-month/28858405 | Mar 26 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - HP Chromebook 14 review | The Verge | http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/5/5175850/hp-chromebook-14-review | Mar 26 22:46 |
| balrog | http://elinux.org/Jetson_TK1#Mainline has info, seems it's still very "do it yourself" | Mar 26 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elinux.org | Jetson TK1 - eLinux.org | Mar 26 22:46 | |
| schestowitz__ | I considered even changing x11 code and recompiling | Mar 26 22:47 |
| balrog | I started running this ARM i.mx6 box nearly a year ago, on kernel 3.10 | Mar 26 22:47 |
| balrog | it was available for half a year before that | Mar 26 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | but I don't want to kill X on this machine in the process | Mar 26 22:47 |
| balrog | and only *now* does mainline support everything | Mar 26 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | i found the patch for some bugs | Mar 26 22:47 |
| balrog | (except for the proprietary gpu driver. the FOSS one probably would work) | Mar 26 22:47 |
| balrog | (but of course no 3D yet and slower) | Mar 26 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | 3d is not needed for many things | Mar 26 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | unless you render/game | Mar 26 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | but I want the colour and dual-head sorted | Mar 26 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | it works on the ChromeOS side | Mar 26 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | but ChromeOS is usefless | Mar 26 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | *less | Mar 26 22:48 |
| MinceR | you can put another distro on it, but then you get a pointless delay on boot | Mar 26 22:49 |
| MinceR | you can probably hack coreboot (re-flash) to fix that, but that might lose warranty | Mar 26 22:49 |
| balrog | as long as you can flash original bios back on :p | Mar 26 22:49 |
| MinceR | plus you get low-capacity mass storage | Mar 26 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | all in all, it's useful for some tasks | Mar 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | I worked from it whilst abroad | Mar 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | it's OK for reading news and posting some stuff | Mar 26 22:51 |
| MinceR | for "some tasks" i have an android tablet :> | Mar 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | it's light and thin | Mar 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Singapore-Reunion/Changi-Airport/changi-airport-12 | Mar 26 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | changi-airport-12 [ http://ur1.ca/jzr49 ] | Mar 26 22:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Singapore-Reunion/Changi-Airport/changi-airport-22 | Mar 26 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | changi-airport-22 [ http://ur1.ca/jzr4c ] | Mar 26 22:53 | |
| schestowitz__ | can use it while walking, it's light enough | Mar 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: mine is cracked | Mar 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz__ | so I leave it home now, at least it's not cracked to the point of being totally unusable, yet | Mar 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz__ | it already got severely cracked before, i had to replace the whole screen and digitizer or whatever they call the thing beneath it | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: I'm back to my Palm PDA | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | I bought a 'new' old one | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | unused on ebay | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Palm Tungsten | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | good for voice memos | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5830540 | Mar 26 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-linux-desktop-battle-and-why-it-matters/ | Mar 26 23:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techrepublic.com | The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/jzr5z ] | Mar 26 23:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | "one linux desktop? what a pile of bs!" | Mar 26 23:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "Lennart Poettering's dream come true - he's already suggested (demanded) it." | Mar 26 23:02 |
| MinceR | mine is only rooted :> | Mar 26 23:04 |
| MinceR | again, the old bullshit of forcing one thing on everybody | Mar 26 23:05 |
| MinceR | i guess some people will never see the error of their ways | Mar 26 23:05 |
| cubexyz | lame article | Mar 26 23:08 |
| schestowitz__ | dOS | Mar 26 23:08 |
| schestowitz__ | Jack Wallen is usually quite OK | Mar 26 23:08 |
| schestowitz__ | blaming everything except the possibility of rogue play by rivals like Microsoft | Mar 26 23:09 |
| schestowitz__ | A lot of the Comes vs Microsoft sheds light on the big barriers | Mar 26 23:09 |
| *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@162.244.24.224) has left #techrights | Mar 26 23:10 | |
| cubexyz | people really should study the history of Unix more | Mar 26 23:11 |
| cubexyz | and I find it hard to abide linux desktop articles | Mar 26 23:11 |
| cubexyz | it's been my desktop over a decade | Mar 26 23:11 |
| cubexyz | and chromebooks really have changed things recently | Mar 26 23:12 |
| cubexyz | Linux on the desktop DID happen | Mar 26 23:13 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/581231906487971840 | Mar 26 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz i only know the civilian airport (wonderfully air-conditioned,self-contained) & neighborhood around Orchard & old Arab Street. | Mar 26 23:13 | |
| cubexyz | customers who don't know anything about Linux bought chromebooks, that's a huge change | Mar 26 23:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Walk up to Little India to see what they don't want you to see. 5-minute walk from Bugis Junction. | Mar 26 23:14 |
| cubexyz | gnome/kde/etc doesn't even matter | Mar 26 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | I ought to have taken more photos in #singapore - e.g. children in army uniform, people in their 80s doing hard labour | Mar 26 23:15 |
| cubexyz | completely superficial | Mar 26 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | cubexyz: did you try chromebooks? | Mar 26 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | Or Chrome? | Mar 26 23:16 |
| cubexyz | I have | Mar 26 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | ChromeOS is scary a concept | Mar 26 23:16 |
| cubexyz | I would KO chromeOS and put something else on it though | Mar 26 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | reducing people to useds of a Web browser without privacy and without control, at least Google facilitates dev mode | Mar 26 23:16 |
| cubexyz | right, without that I wouldn't be interested in it | Mar 26 23:17 |
| cubexyz | fortunately I have folks in #coreboot who are very helpful | Mar 26 23:18 |
| cubexyz | if I'm going to choose between Microsoft and Google, well I'm going to pick Google | Mar 26 23:19 |
| cubexyz | I can also choose between ASUS, HP, Dell, Toshiba... and Lenovo? | Mar 26 23:20 |
| cubexyz | not sure about that last one | Mar 26 23:20 |
| cubexyz | and Acer, not that Acer would be my top choice, but it's still another option | Mar 26 23:21 |
| cubexyz | no need for one OS to 'rule them all' | Mar 26 23:23 |
| cubexyz | Bell Labs could have kept Research Unix going... but it stopped after version 10 | Mar 26 23:25 |
| cubexyz | then they concentrated on Plan 9 after that | Mar 26 23:25 |
| cubexyz | many great ideas first appeared in Research Unix | Mar 26 23:26 |
| MinceR | 001852 < cubexyz> if I'm going to choose between Microsoft and Google, well I'm going to pick Google | Mar 26 23:28 |
| MinceR | same here | Mar 26 23:28 |
| cubexyz | Unix v8 was a modified 4.1BSD for VAX... then v9 was a sort of hybrid 4.3BSD + AT&T Unix | Mar 26 23:29 |
| cubexyz | so anyways, Chromebooks got a lot of OEM support | Mar 26 23:30 |
| cubexyz | Google is strong enough to fight Microsoft now | Mar 26 23:31 |
| cubexyz | but Research Unix is worthy of study... Linux used a lot of their ideas | Mar 26 23:32 |
| cubexyz | of course they used some ideas from BSD as well | Mar 26 23:32 |
| cubexyz | how many educational institutions got Unix v8 you might ask | Mar 26 23:33 |
| cubexyz | I'm sorry to say it was no more than a dozen | Mar 26 23:33 |
| cubexyz | there was some massive problem releasing the source code because of IBM vs SCO | Mar 26 23:35 |
| cubexyz | so Linus and Stallman did something pretty necessary and important | Mar 26 23:37 |
| cubexyz | Stallman of course with gcc and the gpl | Mar 26 23:37 |
| cubexyz | Linus with the kernel | Mar 26 23:38 |
| cubexyz | a good Unix like system for commodity hardware | Mar 26 23:38 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5830540 | Mar 26 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-linux-desktop-battle-and-why-it-matters/ | Mar 26 23:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techrepublic.com | The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/jzr5z ] | Mar 26 23:40 | |
| schestowitz__ | ""one linux desktop? what a pile of bs! | Mar 26 23:40 |
| schestowitz__ | "Lennart Poettering's dream come true - he's already suggested (demanded) it." | Mar 26 23:40 |
| schestowitz__ | cubexyz: depends what from Google | Mar 26 23:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Android and ChromeiumOS are FOSS | Mar 26 23:41 |
| schestowitz__ | The hardware that comes with them doesn't prevent hacking | Mar 26 23:41 |
| schestowitz__ | in fact, Android too have dev mode | Mar 26 23:41 |
| cubexyz | ah but the firmware is FOSS, that's important | Mar 26 23:42 |
| cubexyz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2337180/new-attack-methods-can-brick-systems-defeat-secure-boot-researchers-say.html | Mar 26 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | New attacks defeat Secure Boot and brick PCs | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jzrcc ] | Mar 26 23:43 | |
| cubexyz | you can reflash your firmware on the chromebook, then kick it back into normal mode | Mar 26 23:43 |
| cubexyz | so your firmware is safe | Mar 26 23:43 |
| cubexyz | you have to pretty well open the case to set dev mode | Mar 26 23:44 |
| MinceR | joke's on them, you don't need to attack uefi to brick it | Mar 26 23:44 |
| MinceR | it will brick itself | Mar 26 23:44 |
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| cubexyz | if something clobbers your MBR it's not that hard to fix | Mar 26 23:46 |
| schestowitz__ | xhttps://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_32e66b0725f49b003a31.jpg | Mar 26 23:47 |
| cubexyz | backup firmware, backup mbr, backup data | Mar 26 23:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5830314 | Mar 26 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #PillarsOfEternity RPG Released For Linux, Early Port Report Included https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/pillars-of-eternity-rpg-released-for-linux-early-port-report-included.5156 #games #gnu #linux | Mar 26 23:48 | |
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| schestowitz__ | "I'm going to buy this when I am home this evening. This may just lead me away from WoW." | Mar 26 23:48 |
| cubexyz | if some uber-hacker clobbered my firmware I can reprogram it back, not that I think it's likely to happen | Mar 26 23:48 |
| schestowitz__ | WoW is under NSA and GCHQ surveillance now | Mar 26 23:48 |
| MinceR | if uefi shits into nonvolatile memory, fixing your mbr won't help | Mar 26 23:50 |
| cubexyz | I have a separate eprom programmer | Mar 26 23:51 |
| cubexyz | plus none of my machines have UEFI :) | Mar 26 23:51 |
| MinceR | thanks to planned obsolescence, they'll break | Mar 26 23:53 |
| MinceR | and the only available replacements will be crippled with uefi & co. | Mar 26 23:53 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll let you choose if your crippled web browser appliance will totally fail at its task using windows and ie or using macos and safari, though | Mar 26 23:54 |
| cubexyz | PDP-11, or older I'd worry. MicroVax parts? lots of those | Mar 26 23:59 |
| cubexyz | and the world is drowning in x86 parts | Mar 26 23:59 |
| cubexyz | MicroVax monitors might cost a few bucks though | Mar 27 00:00 |
| MinceR | then the world government will declare them illegal and impound them :> | Mar 27 00:01 |
| schestowitz__ | cubexyz: I have a question | Mar 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz__ | a machine of mine died yesterday. When switched off the 2 fans at the bottom spin, the heatsink fan struggles to spin, moves sporadically if at all | Mar 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz__ | the lights don't come on and no beep, only fans move a lot and there's a light on the mobo, not facing outwards to the user. What might be the cause? | Mar 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz__ | When switched off > I meant on | Mar 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz__ | I already tried disconnecting everything, including rhe RAM chip, the hard drive, all the wires at the back | Mar 27 00:04 |
| schestowitz__ | I even tried chansing the mobo battery to a new one | Mar 27 00:04 |
| cubexyz | well the power supply could be bad | Mar 27 00:04 |
| cubexyz | that's the first thing I'd check | Mar 27 00:05 |
| schestowitz__ | but why would the fans spin? | Mar 27 00:05 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyTA33HQZLA | Mar 27 00:05 |
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| schestowitz__ | that's the genius of it | Mar 27 00:05 |
| cubexyz | the capacitors inside the power supply will hold some energy | Mar 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | cubexyz: it's an old machine, at least 10 year old server | Mar 27 00:06 |
| cubexyz | is the power supply the original part? | Mar 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | I think so | Mar 27 00:06 |
| cubexyz | ok, well, it probably needs changed :) | Mar 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | it seems like there's lots of power coming in as 2 fans spin fast, the heatsink fan is the one struggling | Mar 27 00:06 |
| cubexyz | which era of motherboard is this? | Mar 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | so my theory is, maybe it detects this issue and refuses to start anything cpu-dependent? | Mar 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | which era? Over 10 years ago | Mar 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | Intel, maybe Celeron | Mar 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | not sure which one, might need to check | Mar 27 00:07 |
| cubexyz | P4? | Mar 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe | Mar 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | can it be the power supply if the fans spin? | Mar 27 00:08 |
| cubexyz | I have lots of stuff older than that, but everything needs maintainance | Mar 27 00:08 |
| cubexyz | check your memory socket for dust and dirt | Mar 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | either it gets it all when switched on or nothing at all based on my experience with bad power units | Mar 27 00:08 |
| cubexyz | that builds up over time | Mar 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | I even removed the memoty | Mar 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | it made no difference | Mar 27 00:09 |
| cubexyz | compressed air, clean it all out | Mar 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | what would happen if it's dusty? | Mar 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | won't boot? Beep? | Mar 27 00:09 |
| cubexyz | faulty connections... garbled video or no video | Mar 27 00:09 |
| cubexyz | all kinds of things | Mar 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | I cleaned it inside less than 1 year ago | Mar 27 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | it crashed in a weird way (plasma crash, forze) twice recentl | Mar 27 00:10 |
| cubexyz | some computers need to be cleaned more often | Mar 27 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | this time it was fatal I guess | Mar 27 00:10 |
| cubexyz | do you have a cat? :) | Mar 27 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | no | Mar 27 00:10 |
| cubexyz | also check for bad smells, or cap damage | Mar 27 00:11 |
| cubexyz | signs of discolouration | Mar 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I did, couldn't find any | Mar 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | the only irregular thing is the heatsink fan | Mar 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz__ | I can 'help' it spin | Mar 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz__ | otherwise it struggles a bit | Mar 27 00:12 |
| cubexyz | bearings on the fan could be worn out | Mar 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz__ | this machine used to shut down a lot due to heat in summer | Mar 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz__ | what would happen if the fans didn't work well. I read about this stuff online and I expect to at least hear some beeps | Mar 27 00:13 |
| schestowitz__ | or see some message, or lights | Mar 27 00:13 |
| schestowitz__ | for power if now disk too | Mar 27 00:13 |
| cubexyz | can you get into the bios setup? | Mar 27 00:13 |
| cubexyz | if it's not posting you won't be able to do anything | Mar 27 00:13 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000607.htm | Mar 27 00:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerhope.com | POST troubleshooting steps. [ http://ur1.ca/jz802 ] | Mar 27 00:14 | |
| schestowitz__ | no, no bios setup, nowhere near | Mar 27 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | usually when switched on the fans start, the two lights go on, then there's a picture on the monitor | Mar 27 00:14 |
| cubexyz | try a known working power supply, replace the old one | Mar 27 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | this time it's just the sound of the fans spinning, nothing else | Mar 27 00:14 |
| cubexyz | that's the first thing to try | Mar 27 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | I tried a working power supply from another PC, same outcome | Mar 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz__ | if you eamn cable and socket | Mar 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz__ | not the internal stuff | Mar 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz__ | *mean | Mar 27 00:15 |
| cubexyz | no, the psu that plugs into the motherboard, change that | Mar 27 00:15 |
| cubexyz | oh you did that | Mar 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz__ | cable and socket | Mar 27 00:16 |
| schestowitz__ | not the screwable things | Mar 27 00:16 |
| cubexyz | I mean the ATX power supply | Mar 27 00:16 |
| cubexyz | I assume it's ATX | Mar 27 00:16 |
| schestowitz__ | it's not a standard desktop but a rackable thing,. sort of.. | Mar 27 00:16 |
| schestowitz__ | Even if I had a spare one, it's tricket to work with the parts | Mar 27 00:17 |
| schestowitz__ | detaching the HDD is almost impossible, I can't get to the screws on one side | Mar 27 00:17 |
| schestowitz__ | I've made replacements for it | Mar 27 00:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I guess I'll let her (liberty) rest in peace for now, unless I want a special project in my hands... already spent some hours in vain. Thanks for your advice anyway, much appreciated. gn | Mar 27 00:19 |
| cubexyz | ok :) | Mar 27 00:19 |
| MinceR | o/ | Mar 27 00:19 |
| schestowitz__ | o/ | Mar 27 00:20 |
| cubexyz | the coppermine p3's have lasted a lot time for me... my oldest one is from 1998 :) | Mar 27 00:20 |
| cubexyz | UPS will help extend the life of a computer | Mar 27 00:20 |
| cubexyz | also external usb drives can muck things up | Mar 27 00:22 |
| MinceR | how do they muck things up? | Mar 27 00:25 |
| cubexyz | the chips inside the usb drive die easily | Mar 27 00:25 |
| cubexyz | probably I've been buying cheap junky ones | Mar 27 00:25 |
| cubexyz | when I stopped using it the computer seemed to run better | Mar 27 00:26 |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 27 00:26 |
| cubexyz | the drive itself will survive, but the enclosure and chips in the enclosure will stop working | Mar 27 00:27 |
| cubexyz | it's happened to me 3 times so far | Mar 27 00:27 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5830538 | Mar 27 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-linux-desktop-battle-and-why-it-matters/ #gnu | Mar 27 09:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techrepublic.com | The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/jzr5z ] | Mar 27 09:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Doesn't matter if it's one DE or 1000, that's not what holds Linux back on the Desktop. Wake me up when a corporation the size of M$, Apple, etc put money behind hardware with Linux Desktop pre-installed. That's why Linux doesn't succeed on the Desktop. Gaining that kind of market share takes a concerted effort--engineering, development, branding, marketing, a sales strategy." | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | So, in this person's opinion, Linux is held back by people whose favorite DE is not his favorite DE. | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Change for the sake of change really is stupid. I'll continue to use MATE because it's better than Unity or Gnome 3. The fact that it looks old-fashioned to this stupid git (sorry, person) is of no importance what-so-ever. | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | It comes down to this: If someone is going to switch to Linux (as I did), it will have to be because she/he wants more choices, not fewer. People who want fewer choices will take whatever Microsoft decides to give them...and probably be irrational enough to complain about it. Reminds me of people who vote for Demopublicans complaining about the US government. | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | We can wise up a lot of the suckers, but we can't do it gulling them the same way they're already being gulled. They'll have to abandon the herd instinct, or they're beyond hope. They'll have to start thinking for themselves. | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | Rant finished. | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | "Lennart Poettering's dream come true - he's already suggested (demanded) it" | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | +1 | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | The biggest difference between Windows, OS X, and Linux is simple -- choice. With Linux, you can choose whatever you want to serve as your desktop interface. | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | Its a pitty he had to especify with "as your desktop interface"...because it is obvious it already left behind the idea of Choice... | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | init anyone?@harry haller (nerdpol.ch) | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | Subversive actions against GNU/Linux adoption, as evidence from the Comes vs Microsoft trial serve to show, play a greater role. But it's easy to just blame GNU/Linux to advance one's own agenda | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | *serves to show, played | Mar 27 09:17 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5829253 | Mar 27 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #synthesizer #modularsynthesizer #modularsynthesis #musicproduction #parenting #drugs | Mar 27 09:26 | |
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| schestowitz__ | "lol" | Mar 27 09:26 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Bad Grandpa said: | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Imagine a teenage boy, not much younger than many of you here today, growing up | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | in Cuba. Jet black hair, skinny as a rail. | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Imagine a young married couple, living together in the 1970s, neither | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | one of them has a personal relationship with Jesus." | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | ------ | Mar 27 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | JRBD: Did they try looking in Cuba? :) | Mar 27 11:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TokyoRose_01: @schestowitz ⚡ Wow, that's an #ASSANGE blast from the past. What a find. ;) | Mar 27 12:06 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Released with KDE Plasma 5 | Mar 27 13:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Released with KDE Plasma 5 as Default Desktop - Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines | Mar 27 13:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Kylin 15.04 Beta 2 Is Now Available for | Mar 27 13:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Kylin 15.04 Beta 2 Is Now Available for Download - Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines | Mar 27 13:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bazel: Google Build Tool is now Open Source | Mar 27 13:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bazel: Google Build Tool is now Open Source | Tux Machines | Mar 27 13:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4 keys to success for LibreOffice as a service | Mar 27 13:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 keys to success for LibreOffice as a service | Tux Machines | Mar 27 13:01 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/ph_2907/status/581440867149447168 | Mar 27 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ph_2907: @schestowitz Isn't there a way to fork an older version? | Mar 27 13:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | Should be, if Apple doesn't sue | Mar 27 13:19 |
| balrog | schestowitz__: the connectors and small amount of stuff on github, maybe, not FoundationDB itself, as it's always been closed source, under an EULA that contains a confidentiality agreement | Mar 27 13:55 |
| balrog | schestowitz__: the first comment is worth reading | Mar 27 13:56 |
| schestowitz__ | balrog: cheers, I'll check | Mar 27 14:04 |
| balrog | schestowitz__: I linked the EULA here before: http://web.archive.org/web/20150325004719/https://foundationdb.com/files/CommunityLicenseAgreement.pdf | Mar 27 14:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Late Week in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 27 15:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 27 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | If the Church of Satan establishes a legal right to smoke pot, I might just have to reconsider religion. | Mar 27 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | Hail Santa! (Damned dyslexia attack....Grrr!) | Mar 27 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 27 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | The AIDS crisis of Southern Indianastan is just the latest in a string of Mike Pence's failed policies and failure to lead. Any decent person would have authorized a needle exchange program as the lesser evil months ago. | Mar 27 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | At least now we know what went wrong. These people apparently only come out of their heroin-induced stupor and stop giving each other AIDS for five minutes once every four years so they can go vote for people like Mike Pence. | Mar 27 17:18 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 27 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | John Gregg is an evangelical Christian. I voted for him for governor in 2012 because I don't think that these catastrophes would be going on under his watch. | Mar 27 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | I think he'd take a look at the scourge of HIV/AIDS that is being spread for lack of some clean 10 cent syringes and decide that banning needle exchanges is a really awful idea on the whole. I don't dislike Mike Pence for being a Christian. I dislike him because he's "one of those" Christians that uses it as a cover story for being a complete wretch. | Mar 27 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | You know, just to clear the air. I don't believe in any religion. I think they all lack merit and have failed to prove any of their assertions. If they proved themselves, then we'd call them "scientists", not a bunch of people rolling around on the floor talking gibberish. (The form of Christianity that you see the most of in rural Indiana.) | Mar 27 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | And we really have to talk about what tongue-talking holy rollers are doing. If they did it outside of church, in public, they'd be on a psych ward, with the people who masturbate in public and talk to buildings. | Mar 27 17:30 |
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| __martin__ | softies evangelism in real-time | Mar 27 18:00 |
| __martin__ | http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/03/noose-around-internets-tls-system-tightens-with-2-new-decryption-attacks/ | Mar 27 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Noose around Internet’s TLS system tightens with 2 new decryption attacks | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/k04zg ] | Mar 27 18:00 | |
| MinceR | that's arse technica for you | Mar 27 18:01 |
| __martin__ | (= | Mar 27 18:01 |
| __martin__ | DaemonFC: nice point regards religions | Mar 27 18:01 |
| cubexyz | how is that softies evangelism? | Mar 27 18:02 |
| __martin__ | author is dan goodin | Mar 27 18:02 |
| __martin__ | and microsoft undermines web standards with purpose | Mar 27 18:03 |
| cubexyz | oh I see | Mar 27 18:03 |
| MinceR | not like they have to try hard | Mar 27 18:03 |
| MinceR | the w3c is helping them | Mar 27 18:03 |
| cubexyz | so they are trying to replace RC4 with....? | Mar 27 18:04 |
| balrog | AES right now | Mar 27 18:04 |
| balrog | since RC4 is *crap* | Mar 27 18:04 |
| MinceR | next, the clipper chip | Mar 27 18:04 |
| balrog | and ChaCha20 in the near future | Mar 27 18:04 |
| *__martin__ remembers disabling RC4 in about:config | Mar 27 18:04 | |
| balrog | (which is from Dan Bernstein's group) | Mar 27 18:05 |
| cubexyz | so if I'm doing online banking am I using RC4? | Mar 27 18:05 |
| balrog | you don't want to be using RC4 | Mar 27 18:05 |
| __martin__ | why is Intel so schizophrenic? | Mar 27 18:07 |
| __martin__ | I mean how come that one company division puts active code dumps into coreboot git | Mar 27 18:08 |
| __martin__ | whereas other implements all these anti-theft drm mechanisms and tightens the grip regards uefi signed censored boot | Mar 27 18:08 |
| MinceR | maybe it has divisions at war with each other, like microsoft | Mar 27 18:08 |
| cubexyz | quite possible | Mar 27 18:08 |
| cubexyz | ok, according to this security report my bank is using RC4 128 | Mar 27 18:09 |
| cubexyz | this could be old information though | Mar 27 18:11 |
| balrog | cubexyz: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest | Mar 27 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ssllabs.com | SSL Server Test (Powered by Qualys SSL Labs) | Mar 27 18:12 | |
| balrog | MinceR: you're probably right about that | Mar 27 18:13 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Mar 27 18:14 |
| cubexyz | still looks like RC4 is used | Mar 27 18:15 |
| cubexyz | if one turns off RC4 they get "affected by BEAST" whatever that means | Mar 27 18:22 |
| __martin__ | lol | Mar 27 18:27 |
| __martin__ | that timing | Mar 27 18:27 |
| __martin__ | now I read that this month Intel PR made a PR stunt event for companies regards low usage of vPro by default | Mar 27 18:28 |
| balrog | cubexyz: you're screwed either way, basically | Mar 27 18:28 |
| __martin__ | they masked it with energy cost savings | Mar 27 18:28 |
| balrog | __martin__: link? | Mar 27 18:28 |
| __martin__ | http://dsl.sk/article.php?article=16832 | Mar 27 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dsl.sk | DSL.sk - V 55% slovenskch firiem beia potae nonstop | Mar 27 18:28 | |
| __martin__ | put into translator | Mar 27 18:28 |
| balrog | low usage of vPro is due to how annoying it is to set up | Mar 27 18:28 |
| __martin__ | I mean | Mar 27 18:29 |
| __martin__ | advertising surveillance capabilities due to energy savings | Mar 27 18:29 |
| __martin__ | how hillarious xD | Mar 27 18:29 |
| __martin__ | (other than that it might be true that 55% of corporate XP desktops are turned on through nights) | Mar 27 18:30 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/ph_2907/status/581451068372058112 https://twitter.com/ph_2907/status/581440867149447168 | Mar 27 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ph_2907: @schestowitz does the license it was under allow them to change license on past versions? | Mar 27 18:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ph_2907: @schestowitz Isn't there a way to fork an older version? | Mar 27 18:35 | |
| schestowitz__ | I think we need to ask licensing people | Mar 27 18:35 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Kylin 15.04 Beta 2 Is Now Available for | Mar 27 18:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @ChinaSou @tuxmachines What sites besides | Mar 27 18:42 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Y0sSrn7UWK (www.alibaba.com) do you | Mar 27 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sourcing-china.co | Sourcing Manufacturing China from Beijing to Shenzhen | Mar 27 18:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 Beta 2 Still Uses the GNOME | Mar 27 18:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 Beta 2 Still Uses the GNOME 3.14 Desktop - Gallery - Softpedia | Mar 27 18:42 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines These Ubuntu screenshots show what 15.04 is | Mar 27 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | like http://t.co/66ZPSd175S | Mar 27 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) MATE edition screenshots: | Mar 27 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Final Beta Officially Released - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia | Mar 27 18:44 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu MATE 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Beta 2 Switches to Systemd - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia | Mar 27 18:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Asus ZenWatch review: a sophisticated-looking | Mar 27 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android smartwatch http://t.co/NCKZSWRcgQ | Mar 27 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.theguardian.com) | Mar 27 18:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Asus ZenWatch review: a sophisticated-looking Android smartwatch | Technology | The Guardian | Mar 27 18:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines User-friendly virtual hosting with TurnKey | Mar 27 20:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Interview with Jeremy Davis of TurnKey Linux | Opensource.com | Mar 27 20:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Released, Offers a Neat | Mar 27 20:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | User-friendly virtual hosting with TurnKey Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 27 20:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Builder Makes It Easier for Developers to | Mar 27 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Create Apps for GNOME 3.16 | Mar 27 20:24 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Porting Tizen Common to Open Source Hardware | Mar 27 20:26 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-Source Driver Fans Will Love NVIDIA's New | Mar 27 20:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-article.gmane.org | Gmane -- Linux 3.19.3 | Mar 27 21:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Zentyal announces Zentyal Server 4.1 | Mar 27 21:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zentyal.org | Zentyal announces Zentyal Server 4.1 | Zentyal Server Development Edition | Mar 27 21:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Activities scarcely used | Mar 27 21:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/sHoOadCkNk (user-prompt.com) never | Mar 27 21:08 |
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| MinceR | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/27/bofh_2015_episode_4/ | Mar 27 21:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Shadow Warrior Is Being Released For Linux Next | Mar 27 21:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Builder Makes It Easier for Developers to | Mar 27 21:19 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Builder Makes It Easier for Developers to Create Apps for GNOME 3.16 | Tux Machines | Mar 27 21:19 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-Source Driver Fans Will Love NVIDIA's New | Mar 27 21:19 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Kernel Releases http://t.co/Bx7kARIc9u | Mar 27 21:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Kernel Releases | Tux Machines | Mar 27 21:20 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenStack Kilo Now at Feature Freeze | Tux Machines | Mar 27 21:21 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zentyal announces Zentyal Server 4.1 | Tux Machines | Mar 27 21:21 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Open-Source Driver Fans Will Love NVIDIA's New OpenGL...' | Mar 27 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines THE RISE OF ANDROID: How a flailing startup | Mar 27 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | became the world's biggest computing platform | Mar 27 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6DTsI7aM8r (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 22:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | THE RISE OF ANDROID: How a flailing startup became the world's biggest computing platform | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Galaxy S6 or HTC One M9: Which Android | Mar 27 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | flagship did you pre-order today? | Mar 27 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/c0UTnH1enP (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 22:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung Galaxy S6 or HTC One M9: Which Android flagship did you pre-order today? | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EC to create level playing field for open | Mar 27 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source http://t.co/8UD2kIZnRJ | Mar 27 22:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EC to create level playing field for open source | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny WiFi-loaded OpenWRT COM starts at $12 | Mar 27 22:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/V5JXnwpp1a (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 27 22:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny WiFi-loaded OpenWRT COM starts at $12 | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:25 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Data-Driven Look at the Open Source | Mar 27 22:54 |
| TweetTuxMachines | E-Commerce Market http://t.co/3kY3D4Una9 | Mar 27 22:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Data-Driven Look at the Open Source E-Commerce Market | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:54 | |
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| cubexyz | http://hackeducation.com/2011/07/19/the-wrath-against-khan-why-some-educators-are-questioning-khan-academy/ | Mar 28 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackeducation.com | The Wrath Against Khan: Why Some Educators Are Questioning Khan Academy [ http://ur1.ca/k08vp ] | Mar 28 01:06 | |
| cubexyz | I know it's old, but I thought it might be interesting if anyone missed it | Mar 28 01:06 |
| cubexyz | btw if you do some coding courses with Kahn Academy you will probably be doing windows coding | Mar 28 01:10 |
| cubexyz | probably schestowitz has looked into this already | Mar 28 01:21 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AppTarsii favourited 'Here are Two Android Alternatives for Meerkat and...' | Mar 28 01:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Snag the Android Auto compatible Pioneer | Mar 28 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AVH-4100NEX for just $570 from Amazon | Mar 28 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/TugRoeUhC2 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 01:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Snag the Android Auto compatible Pioneer AVH-4100NEX for just $570 from Amazon | Tux Machines | Mar 28 01:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The 9 best distros for KDE’s Plasma desktop | Mar 28 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qA8pptb4tT (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/581633660404674560 | Mar 28 01:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 9 best distros for KDE’s Plasma desktop | Tux Machines | Mar 28 01:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Docker at Age 2 Reaches Out Far Beyond Its | Mar 28 01:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Roots http://t.co/NnBdhcZNd3 | Mar 28 01:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker at Age 2 Reaches Out Far Beyond Its Roots | Tux Machines | Mar 28 01:48 | |
| balrog | cubexyz: which courses? | Mar 28 01:49 |
| balrog | it seems their classes are heavily HTML5/JS focused | Mar 28 01:50 |
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| rg | I'm Stalin, 1984, lol | Mar 28 02:29 |
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| MinceR | Khaaaaaan! | Mar 28 03:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 8.0 Jessie RC2 Installer Released | Mar 28 07:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 8.0 Jessie RC2 Installer Released | Tux Machines | Mar 28 07:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best KDE Distros, GNOME Resurgence, Ubuntu | Mar 28 07:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 15.04 Beta http://t.co/cTxEYzTRWP | Mar 28 07:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best KDE Distros, GNOME Resurgence, Ubuntu 15.04 Beta | Tux Machines | Mar 28 07:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | Hank Hill: "Detroit hasn't felt any real pride since George Bush went to Japan and vomited on their auto-executives." | Mar 28 09:46 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines THE RISE OF ANDROID: How a flailing startup | Mar 28 10:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | became the world's biggest computing platform | Mar 28 10:00 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/5wuLKE22Ca (uk.businessinsider.com) | Mar 28 10:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.businessinsider.com | How Android was created - Business Insider | Mar 28 10:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @ukiletitia370 @tuxmachines Seguro que te gusta, escuchala | Mar 28 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | bestialisima! http://t.co/hEg9BclBlZ | Mar 28 10:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Aldrey - Causa Y Efecto (Lyric Video) #CausayEfecto - YouTube | Mar 28 10:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @GetTwitfox favourited 'THE RISE OF ANDROID: How a flailing startup...' | Mar 28 10:01 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Galaxy S6 or HTC One M9: Which Android | Mar 28 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | flagship did you pre-order today? | Mar 28 10:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/tesUJeens3 (www.zdnet.com) | Mar 28 10:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Samsung Galaxy S6 or HTC One M9: Which Android flagship did you pre-order today? | ZDNet | Mar 28 10:01 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @Ray_Sturm favourited 'THE RISE OF ANDROID: How a flailing startup...' | Mar 28 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny WiFi-loaded OpenWRT COM starts at $12 | Mar 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/OojPiH9NHQ (linuxgizmos.com) | Mar 28 10:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Tiny WiFi-loaded OpenWRT COM starts at $12 · LinuxGizmos.com | Mar 28 10:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Snag the Android Auto compatible Pioneer | Mar 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AVH-4100NEX for just $570 from Amazon | Mar 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/xoZToZNgSU (www.androidcentral.com) | Mar 28 10:07 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/k0fb7 | Mar 28 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Snag the Android Auto compatible Pioneer AVH-4100NEX for just $570 from Amazon | Android Central | Mar 28 10:07 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The 9 best distros for KDE’s Plasma desktop | Mar 28 10:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | The 9 best distros for KDE’s Plasma desktop | ITworld | Mar 28 10:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 8.0 Jessie RC2 Installer Released | Mar 28 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XDXs4wqGvi (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 28 10:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian 8.0 Jessie RC2 Installer Released - Phoronix | Mar 28 10:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Released, Install/Update In | Mar 28 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu/Linux Mint/Other Debian Based Distros | Mar 28 10:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Released, Install/Update In Ubuntu/Linux Mint/Other Debian Based Distros | Tux Machines | Mar 28 10:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Linux is expanding its reach, promising to | Mar 28 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | play a significant role in the Internet of | Mar 28 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Things." http://t.co/K1chDRwWer | Mar 28 10:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.eetimes.com) | Mar 28 10:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eetimes.com | Linux Seeks Security, Unity | EE Times | Mar 28 10:36 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @APIShift favourited '"Linux is expanding its reach, promising to play...' | Mar 28 10:36 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 17:16:19 2012 | Mar 28 11:17 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Surprising Reasons Behind The GNOME | Mar 28 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Resurgence http://t.co/w3Nat5wTpc | Mar 28 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | 5 Surprising Reasons Behind The GNOME Resurgence | Mar 28 11:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What is keeping you from switching to Linux? | Mar 28 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wZQPn4ULsb (www.ghacks.net) | Mar 28 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | What is keeping you from switching to Linux? - gHacks Tech News | Mar 28 11:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Pushes A Bunch Of Broadwell Code Into | Mar 28 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coreboot http://t.co/0d2dLkfUIh | Mar 28 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel Pushes A Bunch Of Broadwell Code Into Coreboot - Phoronix | Mar 28 11:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd, Nor | Mar 28 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXQt - Screenshot Tour http://t.co/di9JuVqD1g | Mar 28 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 28 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd, Nor LXQt - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia | Mar 28 11:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Surprising Reasons Behind The GNOME | Mar 28 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Resurgence http://t.co/47HTCk3uJX | Mar 28 11:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Surprising Reasons Behind The GNOME Resurgence | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What is keeping you from switching to Linux? | Mar 28 11:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is keeping you from switching to Linux? | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd, Nor | Mar 28 11:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXQt - Screenshot Tour http://t.co/b8UHzBEJW0 | Mar 28 11:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd, Nor LXQt - Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:23 | |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/581755625677414400 | Mar 28 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Sanctions against #mozilla #firefox over an old view of one employee just opportunism http://t.co/mfh4H98PqL #boycott #okcupid | Mar 28 11:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> benjaminkerensa.com | Calling Out OkCupid – Benjamin Kerensa | Mar 28 11:40 | |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/581774858520027136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/581775579248246784 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/581776162680078336 | Mar 28 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Free Software’s Fifth Freedom http://t.co/3Z2Z1RsXF1 "by using proprietary code they’re limiting their options" | Mar 28 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mhall119.com | Free Software’s Fifth Freedom | Michael Hall | Mar 28 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Intel Pushes A Bunch Of #Broadwell Code Into #Coreboot http://t.co/V69kq3mZnK #linux #kernel | Mar 28 11:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using #Systemd , Nor #LXQt - Screenshot Tour http://t.co/RcSCrTMezN | Mar 28 11:51 | |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/581612184133898240 | Mar 28 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JesselynRadack: #Drone pilots, sensor ops, imagery: how many of u were told by US gov recently that ur on an #ISIS hit list? Or was it only #whistleblowers? | Mar 28 11:54 | |
| roy_ | Operators, not pilots | Mar 28 11:54 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/Zen_Moments/status/581667416129814528 | Mar 28 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zen_Moments: Man stands in his own shadow and wonders why it's dark. ~ Zen Proverb http://t.co/mXoj1eFhYC | Mar 28 11:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zenquotes.org | Zen Proverbs - Zen Quotes | Mar 28 11:54 | |
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| __martin__ | now this is funny | Mar 28 11:57 |
| __martin__ | http://www.technologyreview.com/news/535956/microsofts-wristband-would-like-to-be-your-life-coach/ | Mar 28 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | Microsoft’s Activity Tracker Will Also Check Your Calendar | MIT Technology Review [ http://ur1.ca/k0fsw ] | Mar 28 11:57 | |
| __martin__ | xDDDD | Mar 28 11:57 |
| __martin__ | good afternoon btw, replaced fedora 22 with *buntu 15.04 | Mar 28 11:57 |
| __martin__ | oh, and that bloomberg's monsanto headline... | Mar 28 11:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/1GgnAFSfF6 | Mar 28 12:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 28 12:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/1CtlF6fhL0 | Mar 28 12:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Mar 28 12:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by | Mar 28 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apple, European Commission Support for Free | Mar 28 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software http://t.co/u31DINtYsa | Mar 28 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 28 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/k0fvf | Mar 28 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by Apple, European Commission Support for Free Software | Techrights | Mar 28 12:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by Apple,...' | Mar 28 12:12 | |
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| cubexyz | balrog, check this out: | Mar 28 12:46 |
| cubexyz | https://www.khanacademy.org/computer-programming/linux-tree/6713377214693376 | Mar 28 12:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.khanacademy.org | Linux Tree | Computer Science | Khan Academy [ http://ur1.ca/k0g0x ] | Mar 28 12:46 | |
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| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5836059 | Mar 28 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "for many years Microsoft strong-armed PC vendors..pressured them into loading Windows on netbooks instead of Linux" http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/819400-are-cyanogen-and-microsoft-ready-to-stick-it-to-google/ | Mar 28 13:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Are Cyanogen and Microsoft Ready to Stick it to Google? | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/k0g4v ] | Mar 28 13:14 | |
| roy_ | "Wrong link. I like to read the right one. Thx. :)" | Mar 28 13:14 |
| roy_ | Looks like the right link to me | Mar 28 13:14 |
| roy_ | " | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | How do you convince people to leave Facebook and join free\libre services like Diaspora* and GNU Social(for twitter) ? What do you tell them ? | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | What's the benefit we get from Diaspora* that we cannot get from Facebook(except Freedom) ? | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | What are the practical benefits and reasons to leave Facebook Forever and join Diaspora* ? How secure we are in Diaspora* ? Is all of the data nicely encrypted in host servers ? | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | Can't Our data be removed or forced to remove by government ? How you see all these and how you convince other ? | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | " | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | It's not an easy argument to make to people without grasp of the surveillance state, so the ability to approach new joiners is limited to begin with. | Mar 28 13:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LinuxSocist retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by Apple,...' | Mar 28 13:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Q6fygh9Jo5 | Mar 28 13:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 13:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 28 13:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/yke9hi4Qd8 | Mar 28 13:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 13:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 28 13:34 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2015/03/27/mad-explains-the-indiana-state-seal | Mar 28 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | MAD Explains the Indiana State Seal | Mad Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/k0g9b ] | Mar 28 13:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Zentyal Server 4.1 Officially Released, Based | Mar 28 13:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS http://t.co/At3DsZCrFd | Mar 28 13:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 28 13:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Zentyal Server 4.1 Officially Released, Based on Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS - Softpedia | Mar 28 13:41 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @galoppini favourited 'Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by Apple,...' | Mar 28 13:41 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 28 13:53 |
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| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5835962 | Mar 28 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Xubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Released, Offers a Neat Xfce 4.12 Experience - Screenshot Tour http://news.softpedia.com/news/Xubuntu-15-04-Beta-2-Released-with-the-Xfce-4-12-Desktop-Environment-Screenshot-Tour-476886.shtml #xfce #gnu #linux | Mar 28 13:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Xubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Released, Offers a Neat Xfce 4.12 Experience - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/k0gc4 ] | Mar 28 13:55 | |
| roy_ | "beta mouse is is pretty cute, too " | Mar 28 13:55 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5827300 | Mar 28 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We know where you’ve been: Ars acquires 4.6M license plate scans from the cops http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/we-know-where-youve-been-ars-acquires-4-6m-license-plate-scans-from-the-cops/ mass #surveillance by #police | Mar 28 13:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | We know where you’ve been: Ars acquires 4.6M license plate scans from the cops | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jz1r4 ] | Mar 28 13:57 | |
| roy_ | "every thing today is spying on us so creepy a good day of the pervert's just wait i wonder what 5 year's is going to look like ? we will be better of dead lol" | Mar 28 13:57 |
| roy_ | "lol :)" | Mar 28 13:57 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5836526 | Mar 28 13:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Should #Bergdahl Suffer More Than Generals Who Did Far Worse? https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/27/why-should-bergdahl-suffer-more/ | Mar 28 13:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org | Why Should Bergdahl Suffer More Than Generals Who Did Far Worse? - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/k0gcq ] | Mar 28 13:58 | |
| roy_ | "Someone does not understand how armies work. In brief: cannon fodder is sent to kill and be killed, and if the cannon fodder has a brief spark of intelligence and decides that is not good and deserts then suddenly there would be no army anymore. Therefore desertors have to be punished, harshly so they prefer to die as heroes rather than as traitors." | Mar 28 13:58 |
| cubexyz | updated foss-matrix: | Mar 28 14:00 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txt | Mar 28 14:00 |
| cubexyz | microsoft surface deserves a "red alert" status | Mar 28 14:03 |
| MinceR | there should be a semicolon or period before "use PHP", imo | Mar 28 14:04 |
| cubexyz | done | Mar 28 14:05 |
| MinceR | also, i'd also mention uefi beside secureboot | Mar 28 14:05 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 28 14:05 |
| cubexyz | it's mainly just a reader's digest type document for quick reference, but sure, I'll keep adding to it | Mar 28 14:06 |
| cubexyz | another advantage of FOSS, it can always be resurrected | Mar 28 14:13 |
| cubexyz | we need a page for scientific FOSS programs, tons of interesting stuff there | Mar 28 14:22 |
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| cubexyz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_science_software | Mar 28 14:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Category:Free science software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/k0gms ] | Mar 28 14:48 | |
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| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5838571 | Mar 28 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #tsa uses pseudo- #science https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/27/revealed-tsas-closely-held-behavior-checklist-spot-terrorists/ | Mar 28 15:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org | Exclusive: TSA’s Secret Behavior Checklist to Spot Terrorists - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/k0gv5 ] | Mar 28 15:26 | |
| roy_ | "Security theater where the participants lose" | Mar 28 15:26 |
| roy_ | Lose their clothes | Mar 28 15:27 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 28 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | There's a guy in Huntington with the last name Hitler, who runs an insurance agency. | Mar 28 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | I think I'd be changing my name. | Mar 28 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | "I work for Hitler." Oh come on, we've all had a lousy boss, but he can't be that bad! :) | Mar 28 17:09 |
| cubexyz | hey did you ever get a Christmas card from Hitler? :) | Mar 28 17:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xiaomi’s Redmi 2 sets the bar high for budget | Mar 28 19:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android phones http://t.co/hN075Af9KE | Mar 28 19:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (thenextweb.com) | Mar 28 19:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Xiaomi's Redmi 2 Sets the Bar High for Budget Android Phones | Mar 28 19:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Look at GNOME 3.16 http://t.co/G1xz8pTSOg | Mar 28 20:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Look at GNOME 3.16 | Tux Machines | Mar 28 20:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Speculations That Microsoft is About to Buy | Mar 28 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cyanogen (or at Least Officially Partner) to | Mar 28 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Attack Google's Android http://t.co/V8KDnNsHYR | Mar 28 20:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Speculations That Microsoft is About to Buy Cyanogen (or at Least Officially Partner) to Attack Google’s Android/Linux, Replacing Everything With Microsoft | Techrights | Mar 28 20:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android customization – improve battery life, | Mar 28 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | identify battery killer apps | Mar 28 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3PwBZ3IyJY | Mar 28 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Mar 28 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Android customization - improve battery life, identify battery killer apps - Android Authority | Mar 28 20:16 | |
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| Cirrus_Minor | one for tmux users https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBuKLTHw9Gg | Mar 28 20:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | tmux shell script - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/k0w52 ] | Mar 28 20:21 | |
| schestowitz | Cirrus_Minor: cheers | Mar 28 20:22 |
| Cirrus_Minor | yw | Mar 28 20:23 |
| schestowitz | I the DC we host on have some network capacity issue at the moment | Mar 28 20:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Prepare A New Set Of Pants, Outlast Releases | Mar 28 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux On Tuesday https://t.co/JTopnDzvBL | Mar 28 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) "Well there goes my | Mar 28 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tuesday night." | Mar 28 20:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Prepare A New Set Of Pants, Outlast Releases For Linux On Tuesday | GamingOnLinux | Mar 28 20:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kodi (XBMC Media Center) 14.2 Officially | Mar 28 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released, Kodi 15 “Isengard” Is On Its Way | Mar 28 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XNTIH5PB0g (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 28 20:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Kodi (XBMC Media Center) 14.2 Officially Released, Kodi 15 “Isengard” Is On Its Way - Softpedia | Mar 28 20:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4MLinux 12.0 Allinone Edition BETA released. | Mar 28 20:32 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/nld8funnCv (4mlinux.blogspot.co.uk) | Mar 28 20:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4mlinux.blogspot.co.uk | 4MLinux Blog: News | Mar 28 20:32 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 8 Jessie Installer Now Supports Running | Mar 28 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a 64-bit Linux Kernel on a 32-bit EFI | Mar 28 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 8 Jessie Installer Now Supports Running a 64-bit Linux Kernel on a 32-bit EFI | Tux Machines | Mar 28 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kodi (XBMC Media Center) 14.2 Officially | Mar 28 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released, Kodi 15 “Isengard” Is On Its Way | Mar 28 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kodi (XBMC Media Center) 14.2 Officially Released, Kodi 15 “Isengard” Is On Its Way | Tux Machines | Mar 28 20:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Head 2 Head: Android OS vs. Chrome OS | Mar 28 20:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XMeSqTJw46 (www.maximumpc.com) | Mar 28 20:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maximumpc.com | Head 2 Head: Android OS vs. Chrome OS | Maximum PC | Mar 28 20:44 | |
| schestowitz | tessier: is the datacentre network ok? | Mar 28 21:04 |
| schestowitz | There is very high latency from here, maybe it's some routing along the way | Mar 28 21:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Look at GNOME 3.16 http://t.co/HaVv1d0CYb | Mar 28 21:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | First Look at GNOME 3.16 - Softpedia | Mar 28 21:27 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 8 Jessie Installer Now Supports Running | Mar 28 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a 64-bit Linux Kernel on a 32-bit EFI | Mar 28 21:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian 8 Jessie Installer Now Supports Running a 64-bit Linux Kernel on a 32-bit EFI - Softpedia | Mar 28 21:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Head 2 Head: Android OS vs. Chrome OS | Mar 28 21:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Head 2 Head: Android OS vs. Chrome OS | Tux Machines | Mar 28 21:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/581928617380302848 | Mar 28 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz @mosayk28 an example of how relevant art is to social consciousness, and hence also why artists are often suppressed | Mar 28 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MarkDude/status/581930125823881216 | Mar 28 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MarkDude: @schestowitz It appears the policy is to wait until China takes more of its neighbors islands/waters. A Navy base is worth more than this:( | Mar 28 21:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/581936424120791040 | Mar 28 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz bring it. I'm hoping we see all the data free before I shed my body. Read this guy he's not a fool | Mar 28 21:54 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @BookrDewit favourited '18-GPU NVIDIA/AMD Linux Comparison Of BioShock: Infinite http://t.co/wYSjE2Scct' | Mar 25 19:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 18-GPU NVIDIA/AMD Linux Comparison Of BioShock: Infinite | Tux Machines | Mar 25 19:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's leftovers http://t.co/p5a9SYli8o | Mar 25 19:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 25 19:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/HjMnjS7vaK | Mar 25 19:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 25 19:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to create QR Codes easily in Gentoo Linux | Mar 25 19:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to create QR Codes easily in Gentoo Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 25 19:34 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice in the browser, revealed in 2011, | Mar 25 19:34 |
| TweetTuxMachines | finally close to reality http://t.co/HCDshQmUBo | Mar 25 19:34 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice in the browser, revealed in 2011, finally close to reality | Tux Machines | Mar 25 19:34 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME 3.16 Has Been Officially Released, Here’s | Mar 25 20:42 |
| TweetTuxMachines | What’s New http://t.co/Mctwsc6CMB | Mar 25 20:42 |
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| MinceR | http://www.androidauthority.com/first-cyanogen-phone-without-google-blu-596283/ | Mar 26 00:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | The first Cyanogen phone without Google could be from Blu [ http://ur1.ca/jzdom ] | Mar 26 00:20 | |
| MinceR | cyanogen shows its true colors as yet another front for microsoft | Mar 26 00:20 |
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| schestowitz__ | yes, I mentjoned it and have article draft about it | Mar 26 00:29 |
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| msb_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanogen "a colorless, toxic gas" "Cyanogen is a highly toxic compound" "Lethal dose through inhalation typically ranges from 100 to 150 mg." | Mar 26 00:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Cyanogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Mar 26 00:30 | |
| msb_ | "cyanogen is very toxic, as it readily undergoes reduction to cyanide, which poisons the cytochrome c oxidase complex, thus interrupting the mitochondrial electron transfer chain" | Mar 26 00:32 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: my wife says Cyanogen is Judas, like Miguel de Icaza | Mar 26 00:32 |
| msb_ | Why in the world would anyone name their software product after a deadly poison? Perhaps their subconscious mind is warning people. | Mar 26 00:33 |
| schestowitz__ | indeed | Mar 26 00:36 |
| schestowitz__ | i'll quote you on that in tecrights | Mar 26 00:36 |
| msb_ | Thanks! | Mar 26 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR also | Mar 26 00:37 |
| MinceR | afaik it was named after the nickname of its first author | Mar 26 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah | Mar 26 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | is he still with them? He worked for samsung for a while, I think he quit | Mar 26 00:38 |
| MinceR | dunno | Mar 26 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Steve Ruberick or something (the surname is def wrong) | Mar 26 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | !google steve cyanogen | Mar 26 00:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Steve Kondik - Google+ | https://plus.google.com/%2BSteveKondik | Mar 26 00:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - CyanogenMod - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod | Mar 26 00:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - cyanogen (@cyanogen) | Twitter | https://twitter.com/cyanogen | Mar 26 00:38 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Steve Kondik on India, Micromax, and OnePlus | Android Central | http://www.androidcentral.com/steve-kondik-india-micromax-and-oneplus | Mar 26 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: msb_ I wrote about 4 articles about it in the past 1.5 weeks alone | Mar 26 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | and prior to that I warned about Cyanogen, since January | Mar 26 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | So this would add little new info, just present more views | Mar 26 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | I've put references and some additional details, looks like Cyanogen is a bit like Novell | Mar 26 00:40 |
| schestowitz__ | And a company to fight hard to destory now | Mar 26 00:41 |
| schestowitz__ | it tries to turn Android into Windows | Mar 26 00:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Murdoch now funds it personally | Mar 26 00:41 |
| MinceR | i wonder what's in it for murdoch | Mar 26 00:46 |
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| msb_ | Rupert Murdoch is the ultra-wealthy owner of a huge empire of newspapers and radio/TV channels with a rightwing bias. With mobile phones being the most widely used form of personal computer, and thus access device for news information, Murdoch probably hopes to get his fascist news channels onto the phones, which will make him a huge profit and swamp out people's access to accurate news sources like http://globalresearch.ca/ and | Mar 26 01:04 |
| msb_ | http://journal-neo.org/ | Mar 26 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalresearch.ca | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization | Mar 26 01:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-journal-neo.org | New Eastern Outlook | Mar 26 01:04 | |
| MinceR | and google is impeding that somehow? | Mar 26 01:06 |
| msb_ | I know nothing about mobile phones and their software -- I've never had one. But if Murdoch is contributing large sums of money to Cyanogen-Mod, he'll have a say in what apps are included for accessing news, which channels they primarily make available, and whether access of his channels funnels money to him. I have no idea what Google does regarding | Mar 26 01:11 |
| msb_ | Web access in | Mar 26 01:11 |
| msb_ | Android. | Mar 26 01:11 |
| MinceR | perhaps it's a relatively cheap way for him to try out this channel | Mar 26 01:12 |
| msb_ | The worldwide fascist empire, led by the US, UK, EU and Israel, exists to funnel the profits of commerce to the ultrawealthy, to the detriment of working people everywhere. The Internet is a great threat to this empire, because it contains sources that tell the truth about fascism, the murderous US attacks on nation after nation, etc. | Mar 26 01:17 |
| MinceR | ...and the bot is in rant-mode again. | Mar 26 01:18 |
| msb_ | So the fascist leaders would like to push people into accessing their lying sources of "news" -- like Murdoch's publications -- so the people don't realize how they're being robbed. | Mar 26 01:18 |
| msb_ | MinceR: I suggest you access Global Research and NEO, and you will learn what's going on in the world. | Mar 26 01:20 |
| MinceR | sure | Mar 26 01:20 |
| msb_ | MinceR: This is not the world of 60 years ago when the USSR was attacking Hungary. | Mar 26 01:21 |
| MinceR | yes, this is the world of 40 years ago when hungary was a faithful toady to the ussr | Mar 26 01:22 |
| MinceR | your favorite empire is a post-communist mafia state like the hellhole i have the misfortune of living in | Mar 26 01:23 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Hungary is not the whole world. | Mar 26 01:23 |
| msb_ | No, my favorite organization of nations is the BRICS coalition (plus Venezuela and hopefully Greece) whose goal is a fair economic deal for ordinary people. | Mar 26 01:25 |
| msb_ | MinceR: you should stop lying about me and putting words in my mouth | Mar 26 01:25 |
| balrog | now I remember why I quit this channel | Mar 26 01:26 |
| balrog | the politics were getting to me. | Mar 26 01:26 |
| MinceR | ooh, a "fair economic deal for ordinary people" from russia and china? | Mar 26 01:26 |
| balrog | and not the tech politics | Mar 26 01:26 |
| MinceR | you should try living there and find out how much they care about that | Mar 26 01:26 |
| msb_ | MinceR: you lie and call me a "bot", yet it's you who won't access any news sources that might give you information that differs from your current beliefs. | Mar 26 01:27 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure it's more comfortable to relay propaganda from your armchair in the usa | Mar 26 01:27 |
| MinceR | without having any idea what your favorite empire did in the eastern bloc, for instance | Mar 26 01:27 |
| MinceR | msb_: those nutcase sites are not "news sources", they're garbage. | Mar 26 01:28 |
| balrog | MinceR: exactly | Mar 26 01:28 |
| msb_ | MinceR: stop your lying about me. The USSR was not at all my "favorite empire". | Mar 26 01:28 |
| balrog | http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch.ca | Mar 26 01:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rationalwiki.org | Globalresearch.ca - RationalWiki [ http://ur1.ca/jze6b ] | Mar 26 01:28 | |
| msb_ | That article is lying in lots of different ways. For example, it says "New Eastern Outlook, a Moscow-based Russian Government propaganda site". I know personally one of the contributors to it, Janet Phelan, and she has no connection whatsoever to the Russian government. | Mar 26 01:38 |
| MinceR | as far as you know and admit | Mar 26 01:38 |
| balrog | They are Moscow-based though | Mar 26 01:38 |
| MinceR | also, i see no claims on that page about _all_ contributors being connected to the russian government | Mar 26 01:39 |
| msb_ | If you look at the articles on NEO, you'll see that few of them have anything to do with Russia. | Mar 26 01:40 |
| MinceR | not all russian propaganda is directly connected to russia | Mar 26 01:41 |
| MinceR | and not all nutcasery is, either | Mar 26 01:41 |
| balrog | the home page is pretty much all arguably pro-Russia propaganda (also it looks like lots of stuff that's unsourced) | Mar 26 01:41 |
| balrog | (as well as lots of stuff that reads like opinion) | Mar 26 01:42 |
| balrog | that said, this site is probably worth tossing into the archive bot | Mar 26 01:42 |
| MinceR | archive bot? | Mar 26 01:43 |
| msb_ | The article says that the sites are oriented toward "conspiracy theory". Here http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory it uses the definition of that term from Daniel Pipes, one of the most notorious American Fascist/Zionists. | Mar 26 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rationalwiki.org | Conspiracy theory - RationalWiki [ http://ur1.ca/8ktp1 ] | Mar 26 01:43 | |
| balrog | http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=ArchiveBot | Mar 26 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archiveteam.org | ArchiveBot - Archiveteam [ http://ur1.ca/jzea4 ] | Mar 26 01:43 | |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 26 01:44 |
| msb_ | Read about him! | Mar 26 01:45 |
| balrog | msb_: that's an ad-hominem attack; his definition may very well still be accurate. | Mar 26 01:45 |
| MinceR | WARC is interesting | Mar 26 01:45 |
| msb_ | No, he is a right-wing zionist political propagandist. | Mar 26 01:45 |
| balrog | s/about// | Mar 26 01:45 |
| balrog | did you read his conspiracy theory article? | Mar 26 01:46 |
| msb_ | balrog: You say the Global Research articles on the home page are unsourced. | Mar 26 01:46 |
| balrog | I clicked on some and didn't see much if any sourcing | Mar 26 01:46 |
| balrog | not globalresearch, neo | Mar 26 01:46 |
| balrog | I didn't look at globalresearch | Mar 26 01:46 |
| msb_ | balrog: But those are only the beginnings of the articles. If you read them you will find sources. | Mar 26 01:46 |
| balrog | [21:46:43] <balrog>*****I clicked on some***** | Mar 26 01:47 |
| balrog | that said considering the contents of your website, I don't expect anything different from you. I vote this discussion extremely offtopic for this channel and move to end it | Mar 26 01:48 |
| MinceR | sadly, we're not that organized :) | Mar 26 01:49 |
| msb_ | Here's an article that I chose at random in NEO from Tony Cartalucci, a frequent contributer. It's full of references. http://journal-neo.org/2015/03/20/us-propaganda-op-in-korea-exposes-american-tv-as-social-engineering-tool/ | Mar 26 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-journal-neo.org | US Propaganda in Korea Exposes American TV as Social Engineering Tool | New Eastern Outlook [ http://ur1.ca/jzebx ] | Mar 26 01:50 | |
| msb_ | Here's an article by Janet Phelan with references about innovative methods for recycling garbage. http://journal-neo.org/2015/03/21/drowning-in-garbage-some-creative-solutions/ | Mar 26 01:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-journal-neo.org | Drowning in Garbage — Some Creative Solutions | New Eastern Outlook [ http://ur1.ca/jzeck ] | Mar 26 01:52 | |
| balrog | I see four outside links, two of which are to a conspiracy-theory blog, and two which don't mean much | Mar 26 01:52 |
| msb_ | balrog: what "conspiracy-theory blog"? | Mar 26 01:53 |
| balrog | (also lots and lots of clickbait headlines) | Mar 26 01:53 |
| msb_ | balrog: so you smear links to informative articles as "clickbait". | Mar 26 01:54 |
| balrog | not that one in particular. | Mar 26 01:54 |
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| msb_ | One of the topics that the so-called "rationalwiki" cites as "conspiracist" is Water Fluoridation. I can show you dozens of article proving that fluoridation reduces IQ, causes cancer, and mineralizes the pineal gland, depriving people of the melatonin and dimethyltryptamine that the gland would otherwise produce. | Mar 26 02:00 |
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| balrog | msb_: articles, or well-referenced scientific studies? | Mar 26 02:02 |
| balrog | (or academic papers) | Mar 26 02:02 |
| msb_ | balrog: One of the most frequently labelled topics called "conspiracy theory" is 9/11 being done by the US and Israel. I'm a 9/11 researcher, and I've assembled lots of good information about it here: http://cosmicpenguin.com/#911 Watch the linked videos and read the linked pages. | Mar 26 02:05 |
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| balrog | I've been through plenty of this already. I don't need to lose more years of my life to this crap. | Mar 26 02:06 |
| balrog | It's not worth it. | Mar 26 02:06 |
| msb_ | balrog: That's the exact opposite of intellectual honesty and critical thinking. | Mar 26 02:07 |
| msb_ | Refuse to access any information that differs from your current model of the world and you _guarantee_ that you will never learn anything, and will remain an ignorant victim of lying propaganda. | Mar 26 02:08 |
| MinceR | intellectual honesty and critical thinking means ruminating on the same arguments over and over? | Mar 26 02:10 |
| msb_ | Note that the only reason I started talking about this stuff is because MinceR suggested motives for Murdoch contributing to | Mar 26 02:10 |
| msb_ | Cyanogen, and when I proposed a different theory he called me a "ranting bot". | Mar 26 02:11 |
| msb_ | MinceR: If you keep telling the same lies, I will keep giving the same corrections. | Mar 26 02:12 |
| balrog | I've spent enough time learning about these things and why they're ridiculously unlikely. | Mar 26 02:13 |
| balrog | You don't know this but I grew up around a lot of this crap. I am quite familiar with it | Mar 26 02:13 |
| balrog | Something tells me this isn't the first time. | Mar 26 02:13 |
| balrog | s/theory/hypothesis | Mar 26 02:13 |
| balrog | What are said lies and motives | Mar 26 02:13 |
| msb_ | "<MinceR> your favorite empire is a post-communist mafia state like the hellhole i have the misfortune of living in" | Mar 26 02:14 |
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| MinceR | msb_: i did not call you for that, but for going into your usual routine combination of tired conspiracy theories | Mar 26 02:16 |
| msb_ | MinceR refuses to quote anything I've ever written in support of that idea because he _can't_. Because he is lying. And he repeats that lie over and over again. | Mar 26 02:16 |
| MinceR | s/you/& a bot/ | Mar 26 02:16 |
| MinceR | msb_: you keep propping putler up in here | Mar 26 02:16 |
| msb_ | I have said that Putin is countering US fascist attacks like the one in Ukraine that installed a Nazi government there. | Mar 26 02:18 |
| msb_ | MinceR: your claim of "propping up" is a vague smear generalization. | Mar 26 02:18 |
| MinceR | and you have not supported those statements with any facts | Mar 26 02:19 |
| MinceR | only diatribes about how the usa is the greatest evil in the world and that putler is opposing them, which makes him a saint | Mar 26 02:19 |
| msb_ | MinceR: That the US installed a Nazi government in Ukraine? | Mar 26 02:19 |
| MinceR | multiple evils opposed to each other is a world that's apparently too complex for your mind to process | Mar 26 02:20 |
| MinceR | you keep calling it simply a "nazi government" because it contains nazi parties as a minority | Mar 26 02:20 |
| MinceR | meanwhile your favorite dictator is maintaining a brutal dictatorship that's allied with his favorite cult | Mar 26 02:21 |
| MinceR | which is also nationalist | Mar 26 02:21 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Are you saying that the statement that the US installed a Nazi government in Ukraine is not supported with any facts? | Mar 26 02:21 |
| MinceR | and where the dictator controls business | Mar 26 02:21 |
| MinceR | msb_: it is not | Mar 26 02:21 |
| MinceR | msb_: and i'm saying that your saint is more of a nazi than those people. | Mar 26 02:22 |
| msb_ | They were wearing uniforms with swastikas. shooting into the crowd from roof tops, and they took over the govt by force. | Mar 26 02:22 |
| MinceR | of course to see this one must realize that communism and nazism are mostly the same kind of fascism dressed up in different symbols | Mar 26 02:22 |
| MinceR | which of course makes it understandable how people move between the two, allegedly diametrically opposed sides freely. | Mar 26 02:23 |
| msb_ | They also shot down an airliner with 300 people and blamed it on the Russians. | Mar 26 02:23 |
| MinceR | no, the russians (or russian rebels propped up by the russian government) shot it down and blamed it on them. | Mar 26 02:23 |
| msb_ | The cockpit metal showed holes that had been made by projectiles coming in from both left and right, where the two Nazi-Ukraine jet fighters were. A ground to air missile would have exploded on one side only, and so would not have made holes coming from both sides. | Mar 26 02:25 |
| MinceR | so you allege. | Mar 26 02:26 |
| msb_ | So people report who inspected the debris. | Mar 26 02:26 |
| MinceR | who? | Mar 26 02:26 |
| MinceR | also, from what does it follow that only one missile was fired at it? | Mar 26 02:26 |
| MinceR | also, do we only have hearsay or some more tangible evidence? | Mar 26 02:27 |
| msb_ | The Nazis claimed that only one missile was fired. | Mar 26 02:27 |
| msb_ | The metal is tangible evidence. | Mar 26 02:27 |
| MinceR | i can't see it. | Mar 26 02:27 |
| MinceR | so basically there's allegedly a piece of metal that some russians saw and i'm to take your word about their word about it | Mar 26 02:28 |
| MinceR | so convincing. | Mar 26 02:28 |
| msb_ | See the non russian links in this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/evidence-is-now-conclusive-two-ukrainian-government-fighter-jets-shot-down-malaysian-airlines-mh17-it-was-not-a-buk-surface-to-air-missile/5394814 | Mar 26 02:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Evidence Is Now Conclusive: Two Ukrainian Government Fighter-Jets Shot Down Malaysian Airlines MH17. It was Not a ‘Buk’ Surface to Air Missile | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/hyzbd ] | Mar 26 02:30 | |
| MinceR | ooh, global"research" | Mar 26 02:30 |
| msb_ | malaysian-mh-17-cockpit-photo-shows-ukrainian-government-shot-plane.html | Mar 26 02:32 |
| MinceR | such a nice, _complete_ URL | Mar 26 02:32 |
| msb_ | http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/first-examination-malaysian-mh-17-cockpit-photo-shows-ukrainian-government-shot-plane.html | Mar 26 02:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonsblog.com | First Examination of Malaysian MH-17 Cockpit Photo Shows Ukrainian Government Shot that Plane Down Washington's Blog [ http://ur1.ca/jzenw ] | Mar 26 02:32 | |
| msb_ | The links IN the globalresearch article, you liar. | Mar 26 02:32 |
| MinceR | if you have dependable links, why don't you post those instead of that garbage? | Mar 26 02:33 |
| msb_ | http://investmentwatchblog.com/new-mh17-sensation-german-experts-point-finger-at-ukrainian-air-force-jets/ | Mar 26 02:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-investmentwatchblog.com | NEW MH17 SENSATION: German experts point finger at Ukrainian air-force jets. [ http://ur1.ca/jzeo2 ] | Mar 26 02:33 | |
| MinceR | and no relevant images in sight | Mar 26 02:33 |
| msb_ | I'm posting articles in order from a google search | Mar 26 02:34 |
| MinceR | and a "german" expert called Haisenko | Mar 26 02:34 |
| MinceR | i think my time is better spent sleeping than hunting for a diamond ring in the sewer network you're pointing me at | Mar 26 02:34 |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 26 02:35 |
| msb_ | MinceR: Once again, like every other time, MinceR lies and demands I give proof for my statements. | Mar 26 02:35 |
| msb_ | When I give the proof he refuses to access it. | Mar 26 02:36 |
| MinceR | yeah, demanding proof is lying | Mar 26 02:36 |
| MinceR | pointing out issues with your argumentation is also lying | Mar 26 02:36 |
| msb_ | MinceR: You lied and then demanded proof. | Mar 26 02:36 |
| MinceR | and walls of texts with no images and some hearsay are "proof" | Mar 26 02:36 |
| MinceR | but i'm sure you'd have the same standards of evidence if saint putin was accused of wrongdoing | Mar 26 02:37 |
| msb_ | The texts did not come from pro-russian sources | Mar 26 02:37 |
| msb_ | MinceR: you're changing the subject to avoid admitting that I've disproved your lies. | Mar 26 02:38 |
| msb_ | http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2014/shocking-analysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/ | Mar 26 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anderweltonline.com | AnderweltOnline: Shocking Analysis of the ‘Shooting Down’ of Malaysian MH17 [ http://ur1.ca/jzepx ] | Mar 26 02:41 | |
| msb_ | http://www.anderweltonline.com/fileadmin/user_upload/PDF/Cockpit-MH017.pdf | Mar 26 02:42 |
| msb_ | There's the picture of cockpit skin showing holes from bullets coming from both sides. | Mar 26 02:44 |
| msb_ | MinceR: What do you think of that? | Mar 26 02:45 |
| msb_ | balrog: ? | Mar 26 02:45 |
| msb_ | Is it still a "conspiracy theory"? | Mar 26 02:46 |
| msb_ | Looks like they've buggered off. | Mar 26 02:47 |
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| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 17:16:19 2012 | Mar 26 07:52 | |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/580921957194944512 | Mar 26 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Good point!...Maybe "public sources"...etc. | Mar 26 09:05 | |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/Bruciebabe/status/580996003647508481 | Mar 26 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Bruciebabe: @schestowitz How the spooks own you: http://t.co/KXM8lc0yrT | Mar 26 09:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bruceonpolitics.com | The spooks own you • Bruce On Politics | Mar 26 09:06 | |
| roy_ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5825467 | Mar 26 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit Over #France http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-airbus-crash.html "one of the pilots left the cockpit and could not re-enter." | Mar 26 09:11 | |
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| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5820543 | Mar 26 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Impression Pi is everything a VR headset should be — it just can't pull it off http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/24/8280205/usens-impression-pi-vr-headset-hands-on "based around a Samsung smartphone" #android #linux | Mar 26 09:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theverge.com | Impression Pi is everything a VR headset should be — it just can't pull it off | The Verge [ http://ur1.ca/jzmn7 ] | Mar 26 09:12 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: WW3 yet? #ibm never had qualms about working with human rights violators if it means more income http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/23/us-china-tech-ibm-idUSKBN0MJ14X20150323 | Mar 26 11:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | "USA is the champion of human rights violations - it used to reserve these violations, however, for foreigners. Now it turns on its own citizens. At least China keeps its (supposed) crimes domestic rather than terrorising the world." | Mar 26 11:20 |
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| schestowitz__ | > "Jimmy Wales's Wikimedia Foundation offered free access> to Wikipedia from mobile phones. The program, Wikipedia | Mar 26 11:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > Zero, launched in India and other parts of the | Mar 26 11:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > developing world, including Thailand, Myanmar, Morocco, | Mar 26 11:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > Ghana and Malaysia. " | Mar 26 11:55 |
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| schestowitz__ | > older: | Mar 26 11:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > https://www.accessnow.org/blog/2014/08/08/wikipedia-zero-and-net-neutrality-wikimedia-turns-its-back-on-the-open | Mar 26 11:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why the UK government must adopt Open Document Format | Tux Machines | Mar 26 12:55 | |
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| MinceR | geekings | Mar 26 13:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: hi | Mar 26 13:06 |
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| MinceR | "Source for all photos: Internet" | Mar 26 13:07 |
| MinceR | well, that settles it, then | Mar 26 13:07 |
| MinceR | if it's on the Internet, it must be true. | Mar 26 13:07 |
| schestowitz__ | meh | Mar 26 13:08 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5827898 | Mar 26 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rysiek@joindiaspora.com: Apparently the Airbus crashed has been caused intentionally by the co-pilot. And yet, no talk about "#terrorism" in the media. Wonder what the narrative would be had the co-pilot been named "Ahmed" or "Rashid"... | Mar 26 13:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat profit forecast matches estimates | Mar 26 13:13 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's the law! | Mar 26 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | Not just a good idea.... | Mar 26 13:14 |
| DaemonFC | Whenever someone says "There ought to be a law.", there probably shouldn't. | Mar 26 13:14 |
| schestowitz__ | good for the 1% | Mar 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | lawmakers usually are funded by them | Mar 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | if not part of the 1% themselves | Mar 26 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | I call them lawfakers. | Mar 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Solicitors | Mar 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Masked as "lawmakers" | Mar 26 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | They make laws that say things can't happen. | Mar 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | For their "clients" | Mar 26 13:15 |
| DaemonFC | Laws can't do that. | Mar 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz__ | !google taxas law photographing cops | Mar 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Texas Bill Makes it a Crime to Photograph Police From Within 25 ... | http://petapixel.com/2015/03/13/texas-bill-makes-it-a-crime-to-photograph-police-from-within-25-feet-of-them/ | Mar 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Texas Lawmaker Receiving Death Threats for His Bill That Limits ... | http://petapixel.com/2015/03/21/texas-lawmaker-receiving-death-threats-for-his-bill-that-limits-photographing-cops/ | Mar 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bill restricting rights of citizens to videotape police introduced in ... | http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/Bill-restricting-rights-of-citizens-to-videotape-6130903.php | Mar 26 13:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Texas lawmaker wants to make it illegal to film police — RT USA | http://rt.com/usa/240569-texas-villalba-record-police/ | Mar 26 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | Laws can only say what the state is going to do when something happens. They can't stop something from happening. | Mar 26 13:16 |
| schestowitz__ | right | Mar 26 13:16 |
| balrog | Whenever someone says "There ought to be a law.", the correct answer is "There probably already is a law!" | Mar 26 13:16 |
| schestowitz__ | hopefully more people will escape school-age indoctrination and accept that laws are arbitrary, biased | Mar 26 13:16 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana has a new "religious freedom law". | Mar 26 13:16 |
| schestowitz__ | hehe | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | "freedom" | Mar 26 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Code word for "You can tell the gays to leave.". | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | I love freedom | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | who would oppose freedom? | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | freedom... religion loves freedom | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | so let's love religion and give it "freedom" | Mar 26 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | I said.... | Mar 26 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Instead of complaining about the new religious discrimination enablement law in Indiana, why not find ways to fuck with them? | Mar 26 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Can smoking marijuana be a religious belief? Why yes, it can. Part of the reason the federal RFRA was enacted was because of a case where the federal government came in and told a Native American tribe that they couldn't use peyote as part of a religious ritual. | Mar 26 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana's RFRA allows you to cite your religious beliefs as an affirmative defense if you're being sued. Maybe it's against my religion to pay medical bills. | Mar 26 13:17 |
| DaemonFC | Get creative. Clog up their fascist court system. | Mar 26 13:17 |
| balrog | (like with all the stuff about internet harassment. there *are laws* on the books, but it seems like police don't want to investigate, and judges think telling people "just stop using the internet" is an acceptable answer.) | Mar 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz__ | The Religious Freedom Act? the G.O.D. Act? | Mar 26 13:17 |
| balrog | more like the Right to Discriminate Using Your Religion as an Excuse Act | Mar 26 13:18 |
| schestowitz__ | No way !! | Mar 26 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | I have a rainbow-colored credit card. I got it just to see if anyone complained. | Mar 26 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody has yet, but that could just mean that they don't know what it is. | Mar 26 13:19 |
| cubexyz | how about some motherboard laws? You have the right to disable secure boot | Mar 26 13:19 |
| cubexyz | make it part of the customer protection act | Mar 26 13:20 |
| balrog | cubexyz: if what mjg59 says is true (and I have no reason to believe it's not) I'm a lot less worried about that. | Mar 26 13:20 |
| balrog | I'm much more concerned about Boot Guard | Mar 26 13:20 |
| DaemonFC | There are some rumors this morning that suggest that Samsung has bought AMD. | Mar 26 13:22 |
| DaemonFC | I hope it's not true. I don't want the open source graphics driver project to be killed off by Samsung. | Mar 26 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | Or worse, driver support, period. | Mar 26 13:23 |
| balrog | what's samsung's track record with driver/linux support for their SoCs? | Mar 26 13:24 |
| MinceR | technically most of their SoCs only run linux :> | Mar 26 13:24 |
| balrog | do they work with upstream? | Mar 26 13:24 |
| cubexyz | another thing I should mention, it's clear to me that AMI is building BIOS/UEFI with microsoft tools | Mar 26 13:25 |
| MinceR | everyone is | Mar 26 13:26 |
| cubexyz | with coreboot you can build it with linux tools, or even port the tools to another OS | Mar 26 13:26 |
| MinceR | intel did used microsoft crap to build TianoCore | Mar 26 13:26 |
| MinceR | and everyone else is using TianoCore | Mar 26 13:26 |
| MinceR | s/did // | Mar 26 13:27 |
| cubexyz | you mean the UEFI development kit? | Mar 26 13:27 |
| MinceR | the hw-independent code at the core of uefi | Mar 26 13:27 |
| cubexyz | Tiano Core is just one type of boot loader though | Mar 26 13:29 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't be surprised if it was hacked up at m$ and distributed by intel under their own name | Mar 26 13:29 |
| cubexyz | well, blame intel I think | Mar 26 13:29 |
| MinceR | blame them both | Mar 26 13:29 |
| MinceR | blame crApple too, they jumped on the bandwagon early | Mar 26 13:30 |
| balrog | MinceR: based on what I've been told, the blame falls squarely on Intel. | Mar 26 13:30 |
| cubexyz | intel also started the whole "use microsoft tools" thing, all the way back to IBM PC | Mar 26 13:31 |
| balrog | https://github.com/Piker-Alpha/macosxbootloader -- boot.efi for older Macs. Yes, uses MS tools. | Mar 26 13:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | Piker-Alpha/macosxbootloader · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/jzo0n ] | Mar 26 13:31 | |
| balrog | MinceR: is it a coincidence that EFI uses PE as its native executable format? | Mar 26 13:32 |
| cubexyz | there's BaseTools for Unix also | Mar 26 13:32 |
| MinceR | obviously not | Mar 26 13:32 |
| MinceR | neither is that they use FAT | Mar 26 13:32 |
| balrog | well FAT is basic and easy to implement | Mar 26 13:32 |
| MinceR | or that they _mandate_ the system clock to be set to local time | Mar 26 13:32 |
| MinceR | forcing windows design flaws on other OSes | Mar 26 13:33 |
| MinceR | that is, if they allow you to boot another OS on your hardware | Mar 26 13:33 |
| balrog | you saw that about Linux have to lie that it only supports ACPI 2.0 | Mar 26 13:33 |
| cubexyz | FAT is a patent encumbered filesystem, yes? | Mar 26 13:33 |
| balrog | http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/34542.html | Mar 26 13:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mjg59.dreamwidth.org | mjg59 | Vendors continue to break things | Mar 26 13:34 | |
| balrog | cubexyz: FAT with LFN is | Mar 26 13:34 |
| balrog | FAT without LFN is not | Mar 26 13:34 |
| cubexyz | ok | Mar 26 13:34 |
| MinceR | exFAT is also encumbered | Mar 26 13:34 |
| balrog | btw did you see the prior art on exFAT? | Mar 26 13:34 |
| MinceR | also, according to Matthew Garrett, a patent license is provided for purposes of UEFI | Mar 26 13:34 |
| MinceR | i did | Mar 26 13:34 |
| balrog | http://whats.all.this.brouhaha.com/2012/09/16/trs-dos-as-possible-prior-art-for-ms-patent-on-exfat-and-reference-request/comment-page-1/ | Mar 26 13:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-whats.all.this.brouhaha.com | TRS-DOS as possible prior art for MS patent on exFAT, and reference request | What's All This Brouhaha? [ http://ur1.ca/jzo15 ] | Mar 26 13:34 | |
| MinceR | oh, not on exFAT | Mar 26 13:34 |
| balrog | also see the comments | Mar 26 13:34 |
| MinceR | on VFAT | Mar 26 13:34 |
| cubexyz | just to point out you can use gcc to build BaseTools | Mar 26 13:34 |
| balrog | > I found another instance of a file system using a hash table for fast file lookup, the HP 64000 development system, introduced in 1979. The directory format is described on page 10 and 12 of the October 1980 issue of the Hewlett-Packard Journal. | Mar 26 13:35 |
| balrog | I read that, and it pretty much is the same as what is claimed in the patent | Mar 26 13:35 |
| balrog | http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1980-10.pdf | Mar 26 13:35 |
| MinceR | interesting | Mar 26 13:35 |
| MinceR | crApple claims they invented the rounded rectangle | Mar 26 13:35 |
| MinceR | micro$atan claims they invented the hash table | Mar 26 13:35 |
| *MinceR goes and files a patent on the wheel | Mar 26 13:35 | |
| balrog | if you spend enough time looking at patents, you'll probably find one. | Mar 26 13:36 |
| cubexyz | balrog, wouldn't prior use invalidate the patent? | Mar 26 13:36 |
| balrog | cubexyz: yes, but someone has to prove that in court. | Mar 26 13:36 |
| cubexyz | microsatan lol | Mar 26 13:39 |
| balrog | (FWIW, I find calling companies like that very ... off-putting, and distracting from the actual problems) | Mar 26 13:39 |
| MinceR | not my problem | Mar 26 13:40 |
| balrog | (it also makes you look less credible) | Mar 26 13:40 |
| MinceR | (to people who have already dismissed my side) | Mar 26 13:41 |
| MinceR | (it's just an excuse used by people butthurt by others not venerating their god-companies) | Mar 26 13:41 |
| cubexyz | I think M$ is prefectly reasonable, given that Microsoft does try hard to suck money out of everybody | Mar 26 13:42 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satiric_misspelling | Mar 26 13:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Satiric misspelling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jzo2x ] | Mar 26 13:42 | |
| balrog | MinceR: the satire is lost if they're overused. | Mar 26 13:42 |
| balrog | (i.e. context matters) | Mar 26 13:42 |
| balrog | anyway | Mar 26 13:43 |
| cubexyz | if Microsoft tops with the windows tax, e.g. every OEM offers all models of computer with no OS option, I'll stop using M$ | Mar 26 13:43 |
| balrog | I'm sure you all have seen http://www.loomcom.com/blog/2015/02/22/its-comcastic-or-i-accidentally-bought-a-house-without-internet/ | Mar 26 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.loomcom.com | It’s Comcastic, or: I Accidentally Bought a House Without Cable | An Open Book [ http://ur1.ca/jzo3b ] | Mar 26 13:44 | |
| cubexyz | s/tops/stops/ | Mar 26 13:44 |
| MinceR | if m$ stops trying to destroy my freedoms and my computers and the general-purpose computer and repays the damage they've caused i will stop using m$ & co. | Mar 26 13:45 |
| MinceR | (like that will ever happen) | Mar 26 13:45 |
| MinceR | (also, no, m$ going bankrupt or otherwise defunct doesn't count) | Mar 26 13:46 |
| cubexyz | you know what I thought might happen in the past? The Microsoft-Only Computer | Mar 26 13:46 |
| MinceR | (well, obviously, since that would not repay the damage) | Mar 26 13:46 |
| MinceR | that may yet happen | Mar 26 13:46 |
| MinceR | we're going that way, thanks to uefi and intel boot guard | Mar 26 13:46 |
| MinceR | and treacherous computing, and drm everywhere, including html5 | Mar 26 13:46 |
| cubexyz | I remember one guy warning me over 20 years ago about it | Mar 26 13:47 |
| MinceR | it probably won't be much of a computer | Mar 26 13:47 |
| cubexyz | around the time win95 came out | Mar 26 13:47 |
| MinceR | after all, fog computing finally lets them move all the data they don't want you to touch where you can't access it | Mar 26 13:47 |
| cubexyz | that guy farting around with Comcast should get satellite internet | Mar 26 13:49 |
| cubexyz | ok, he doesn't want satellite because of VPN use | Mar 26 13:50 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5828091 | Mar 26 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: French prosecutor says pilot deliberately crashed plane http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/03/prosecutor-french-alps-plane-crash-intentional-150326115612123.html "no terrorism links" (read: not Arab) | Mar 26 14:01 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 26 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.aljazeera.com | French prosecutor says pilot deliberately crashed plane - Al Jazeera English [ http://ur1.ca/jznqv ] | Mar 26 14:01 | |
| schestowitz__ | correction; read (not muslims) | Mar 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz__ | the way you say it implies arab= islam, which is wrong. | Mar 26 14:01 |
| balrog | cubexyz: yeah, from what I hear the switch to EFI was not at all popular within Apple. | Mar 26 14:01 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 26 14:01 |
| zoobab_ | pong | Mar 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | This was intentional. The media likes to generalise so as to berate Arabs, under the guise of religion | Mar 26 14:02 |
| MinceR | because it was also a switch to x86? :> | Mar 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | ohama: ping | Mar 26 14:02 |
| balrog | technically they could have done OF on x86 | Mar 26 14:02 |
| schestowitz__ | zoobab_: ping | Mar 26 14:02 |
| zoobab_ | what's up? | Mar 26 14:02 |
| MinceR | but that wouldn't have been broken or evil enough for apple | Mar 26 14:02 |
| balrog | or especially intel | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | 1 Profile View | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 26 14:03 |
| MinceR | it's sad that christians don't realize their religion is about as crazy as islam | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Bill Weinberg | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Senior Director, Black Duck Software | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 26 14:03 |
| zoobab_ | seems like you are in good connexion with those poor EPO employees | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | So Black Duck stalk me a bit right now, i must have hit a nerve | Mar 26 14:03 |
| schestowitz__ | zoobab_: I have lots of docs from Holland | Mar 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | about 12 PDFs | Mar 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | I need to make time available today/Friday/weekend to publish those | Mar 26 14:04 |
| schestowitz__ | There's an AC meeting today and tomorrow | Mar 26 14:04 |
| zoobab_ | yop | Mar 26 14:04 |
| zoobab_ | I am making a new campaign | Mar 26 14:04 |
| zoobab_ | online soon | Mar 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz__ | If Benoit is out, maybe they'll revoke nasty deals and agreements | Mar 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz__ | zoobab_: excellent, let me know when it's up, so I can promote it, link, etc. | Mar 26 14:05 |
| zoobab_ | yo | Mar 26 14:05 |
| zoobab_ | I still have to publish the appeal I filed 2 weeks ago at the Belgian Constitutional Court | Mar 26 14:05 |
| schestowitz__ | appeal to decision made? | Mar 26 14:06 |
| schestowitz__ | or appeal for action? | Mar 26 14:06 |
| zoobab_ | unitary patent ratificatin by Belgium | Mar 26 14:06 |
| zoobab_ | there are chances that we got late, but I am looking at filing appeal in other countries | Mar 26 14:07 |
| zoobab_ | trying to get in touch with those law professors that have written "call for sanity" | Mar 26 14:07 |
| zoobab_ | there is a weak answer on ipkat from a dutch guy | Mar 26 14:07 |
| zoobab_ | in any case we have to rock the boat | Mar 26 14:08 |
| zoobab_ | I just hope the ECJ will sink the ship, otherwise we will have to do it | Mar 26 14:08 |
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| schestowitz__ | Who? Wouter? | Mar 26 14:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Por? | Mar 26 14:20 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines CentOS-Based NethServer 6.6 Distro Officially | Mar 26 14:48 |
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| msb__ | That FoundationDB move is amazingly evil. Can Apple just steal all the contributed open-source code? | Mar 26 15:51 |
| balrog | not to excuse Apple, but FoundationDB wasn't open source, fwiw | Mar 26 15:52 |
| balrog | here's the EULA it was under: http://web.archive.org/web/20150108074629/https://foundationdb.com/files/CommunityLicenseAgreement.pdf | Mar 26 15:53 |
| msb__ | The Forbes article says "The core of FoundationDB was closed source, but many components around it were open sourced." | Mar 26 15:55 |
| msb__ | The contributed open-source code should be publicly available, and a team of devs should write an open-source workalike for the core. | Mar 26 15:58 |
| msb__ | Apple has sure devolved a long way from its original image of being the system for artists, hippies, leftists, etc. | Mar 26 16:01 |
| cubexyz | you would need to go back to the Apple II for that | Mar 26 16:02 |
| msb__ | I'm friends with a couple of socialists who only buy Macs, even though they're expensive and crippled compared to PCs. | Mar 26 16:03 |
| msb__ | These folks do a _radio_ program, and they buy computers that have no audio input. | Mar 26 16:04 |
| balrog | I see two components (actually connectors), and some example code | Mar 26 16:04 |
| cubexyz | selective blindness | Mar 26 16:04 |
| msb__ | yep | Mar 26 16:04 |
| balrog | which while maybe useful, don't really help you very much to rewrite the core | Mar 26 16:04 |
| cubexyz | knowledgeable in social issues, not technological | Mar 26 16:04 |
| balrog | all their interesting and special stuff was in the core | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | Just now · | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | I know how to contain the HIV outbreak in Austin, Indiana. | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | Call in the Air Force and have them drop a daisy cutter on the town. | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | If there are syringes littered in the streets and peoples yards, then what would be lost by incinerating the entire town? | Mar 26 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | Anyone? Anyone? | Mar 26 16:05 |
| msb__ | cubexyz: It's not as if I haven't told them repeatedly to buy vanilla PCs and use Linux. | Mar 26 16:05 |
| cubexyz | I have a friend who really likes Sun Microsystems | Mar 26 16:07 |
| msb__ | balrog: The specs of the core are known. People should be able to duplicate the capabilities. | Mar 26 16:07 |
| balrog | the API is known | Mar 26 16:08 |
| balrog | and what it's capable of | Mar 26 16:08 |
| balrog | that's not the specs | Mar 26 16:08 |
| balrog | the EULA contains a confidentiality agreement, not sure how enforceable that is | Mar 26 16:08 |
| balrog | msb__: do you encourage them to use FOSS software on their machines? that might go over better. | Mar 26 16:09 |
| msb__ | Of course. | Mar 26 16:09 |
| balrog | (rather than putting on a completely new OS and getting new machines) | Mar 26 16:09 |
| balrog | (I mean programs, not replacing the entire thing) | Mar 26 16:09 |
| msb__ | I think their software is adequate for their needs, it's the hardware that's not. They are pretty old and overworked, so no sense in changing software if they don't need to. | Mar 26 16:11 |
| DaemonFC | I got my clothesline nailed up. | Mar 26 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | Not bad for $2. | Mar 26 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | I'll get away without using that stupid coin-op dryer that takes two hours and $3 to dry a load of laundry. | Mar 26 16:12 |
| DaemonFC | And by "dry" I mean still wet but not wet enough that you want to put another $1.50 in it. | Mar 26 16:12 |
| balrog | Perhaps their hardware is adequate then. | Mar 26 16:13 |
| balrog | cubexyz: sun, you mean oracle? | Mar 26 16:13 |
| cubexyz | he's probably got a bunch of older suns | Mar 26 16:13 |
| balrog | heh | Mar 26 16:13 |
| msb__ | balrog: These folks do a _radio_ program, and they buy computers that have no audio input. | Mar 26 16:16 |
| balrog | msb__: that seems like a minor issue that's easy to work around. | Mar 26 16:16 |
| balrog | a lot of newer PCs don't have an onboard audio input either | Mar 26 16:16 |
| msb__ | they would have to buy an expensive audio to USB or Firewire external adapter | Mar 26 16:16 |
| balrog | (and most PCs have a "mic" input) | Mar 26 16:16 |
| msb__ | but their iMacs don't | Mar 26 16:17 |
| balrog | do they need balanced mic in or just plain line in? how many inputs do they need? | Mar 26 16:18 |
| balrog | interfaces that don't have high-quality preamplification (equivalent to a line in jack) are cheap | Mar 26 16:18 |
| balrog | under $10 cheap | Mar 26 16:18 |
| balrog | once you start getting into interfaces with 2 or more XLR jacks, you're gonna pay | Mar 26 16:19 |
| msb__ | They should have two mikes and a mixer. | Mar 26 16:20 |
| msb__ | Probably about $125. | Mar 26 16:21 |
| msb__ | Plus the line to USB adapter. | Mar 26 16:21 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu And Ericsson Partner To Helps Telcos | Mar 26 16:21 |
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| msb__ | My cheap old PC has two mike inputs and a stereo line input. | Mar 26 16:22 |
| balrog | they also probably sound like crap | Mar 26 16:22 |
| msb__ | No, they sound fine. | Mar 26 16:23 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5828315 | Mar 26 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #lufthansa logo http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7yB-eeGviiI/TUxzs0B1WwI/AAAAAAAAI2w/Hz21r8FP7uQ/s1600/Lufthansa_Logo25.png #Luftwaffe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftwaffe#/media/File:Luftwaffe_eagle.svg | Mar 26 16:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | "And this is hinting at what exactly?" | Mar 26 16:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | Luftwaffe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jzp20 ] | Mar 26 16:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | Not a wise choice of logo | Mar 26 16:24 |
| msb__ | I talk halfway around the world on IHU and it sounds like we're in the same room. | Mar 26 16:24 |
| msb__ | schestowitz__: I don't think they look similar at all. But the Lufthansa one looks like Daffy Duck with a hat. | Mar 26 16:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines linux outgrew capacity for one unified | Mar 26 16:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxplumbersconf.org | Containers Microconference Accepted into 2015 Linux Plumbers Conference – | Mar 26 16:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxplumbersconf.org | Checkpoint/Restart Microconference Accepted into 2015 Linux Plumbers Conference – | Mar 26 16:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxplumbersconf.org | Energy-Aware Scheduling and CPU Power Management Microconference Accepted into 2015 Linux Plumbers Conference – | Mar 26 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BQ Is Cleaning Up Their Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu | Mar 26 16:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | BQ Is Cleaning Up Their Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Kernel - Phoronix | Mar 26 16:36 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Hands-On: Linux UEFI multi-boot, part two | Mar 26 16:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Hands-On: Linux UEFI multi-boot, part two | ZDNet | Mar 26 16:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bodacious Bodhi Broadens Linux Desktop | Mar 26 16:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxinsider.com | Bodacious Bodhi Broadens Linux Desktop | Reviews | LinuxInsider | Mar 26 16:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu And Ericsson Partner To Helps Telcos | Mar 26 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Achieve Flexibility http://t.co/XVTWMlnwO5 | Mar 26 16:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu And Ericsson Partner To Helps Telcos Achieve Flexibility | Tux Machines | Mar 26 16:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EP IT department: ‘We should give openness | Mar 26 16:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | example’ http://t.co/93JE3TUYfF | Mar 26 16:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EP IT department: ‘We should give openness example’ | Tux Machines | Mar 26 16:40 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/581135792585760768 | Mar 26 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @KhaledBeydoun @schestowitz I don't yet know whether this act was meant to cause terror. But it certainly disregarded the safety of others. | Mar 26 16:51 | |
| schestowitz__ | I think the point is, Arabs often assumed to be killing for political reasons, even while evidence is lacking | Mar 26 16:52 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5828315 | Mar 26 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #lufthansa logo http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7yB-eeGviiI/TUxzs0B1WwI/AAAAAAAAI2w/Hz21r8FP7uQ/s1600/Lufthansa_Logo25.png #Luftwaffe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftwaffe#/media/File:Luftwaffe_eagle.svg | Mar 26 16:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> en.wikipedia.org | Luftwaffe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jzp20 ] | Mar 26 16:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Well, a bird logo is quite an obvious choice for an aviation company, isn't it? But the Lufthansa bird is actually a crane, not an eagle, so the comparison seems a little far fetched." | Mar 26 16:55 |
| schestowitz__ | many airlines don't choose birds; in fact, Saudi Arabia chose swords | Mar 26 16:55 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/581137028684910592 | Mar 26 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz @KhaledBeydoun I agree that sadly is the case and I certainly don't think that personally. Sadly our media have islamophobia. | Mar 26 16:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/581137201649446912 | Mar 26 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Call it: A) JANUS B) CLINTON | Mar 26 16:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5828872 | Mar 26 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/KhaledBeydoun/status/581118117130215424 | Mar 26 16:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | "I was just talking about this in a broader context yesterday about how there have been more acts of terrorism in the US perpetrated by white fundamentalists, be they Christian or anti-government, or both, than by outside agents who made it in and every time they have been played off as the single-incident acts of lone crazy people." | Mar 26 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KhaledBeydoun: Repeated refusal to name acts of mass violence by Whites "terrorism" deepens seeing it as an exclusively Arab/Muslim act. #Germanwings | Mar 26 16:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | The shootings in Copenhagen could be described as hate crime, not terrorism as media frames it | Mar 26 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines LibreOffice Now Toward Cloud Based Package, Get | Mar 26 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ready To Welcome LibreOffice Online | Mar 26 16:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Now Toward Cloud Based Package, Get Ready To Welcome LibreOffice Online | Tux Machines | Mar 26 16:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Unboxing - Video | Mar 26 16:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Unboxing - Video - Softpedia | Mar 26 16:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Wear smartwatches: The benefits for | Mar 26 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | professionals http://t.co/SBRAAon9gR | Mar 26 16:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | Android Wear smartwatches: The benefits for professionals - TechRepublic | Mar 26 16:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A review of Android for Work: Dual-persona | Mar 26 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | support comes to Android http://t.co/GDHW9mXEwI | Mar 26 16:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (arstechnica.com) | Mar 26 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | A review of Android for Work: Dual-persona support comes to Android | Ars Technica | Mar 26 16:57 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @jfoxdev @tuxmachines Just as the wrist watch cast a | Mar 26 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | shadow on the sundial, so too will be the fate | Mar 26 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of the smart phone - cast aside by the | Mar 26 18:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Poll: Linux Use by Software Developers & | Mar 26 18:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Researchers http://t.co/iO45s2YJXN | Mar 26 18:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxquestions.org | Poll: Linux Use by Software Developers & Researchers | Mar 26 18:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 26/3/2015: GNOME 3.16 Officially Released | Mar 26 19:02 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/9EwedRKu0x | Mar 26 19:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/3/2015: GNOME 3.16 Officially Released | Techrights | Mar 26 19:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 26 19:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/8TjcWE3eeM | Mar 26 19:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Mar 26 19:02 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/9QcIppUBxA | Mar 26 20:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 26 20:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/XLg0FPRGb1 | Mar 26 20:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 26 20:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/mmx1ihzAmq | Mar 26 20:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Mar 26 20:05 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5829606 | Mar 26 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/581157612063985664 | Mar 26 20:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Think of the revenue." | Mar 26 20:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@emptywheel: Lockheed's had crazy week. Going fr earnings call expressing worry abt PEACE BREAKING OUT to the war in Yemen w/best customers USING planes | Mar 26 20:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | Bailout with bombs | Mar 26 20:18 |
| schestowitz__ | Grooming Ramji http://ostatic.com/blog/cloud-foundry-summit-speakers-and-agenda-arrive | Mar 26 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com | Cloud Foundry Summit: Speakers and Agenda Arrive [ http://ur1.ca/jzqdu ] | Mar 26 20:31 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5830350 | Mar 26 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Samsung Rumored to Be Eyeing #AMD Acquisition http://www.eweek.com/blogs/first-read/samsung-rumored-to-be-eyeing-amd-acquisition.html | Mar 26 20:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.eweek.com | Samsung Rumored to Be Eyeing AMD Acquisition [ http://ur1.ca/jzqg7 ] | Mar 26 20:45 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Please no." | Mar 26 20:45 |
| msb__ | AMD is the only manufacturer of powerful x86-type desktop CPUs that is standing up to the fascist Intel. It is extremely important that AMD remain independent and able to keep doing this. | Mar 26 20:57 |
| msb__ | Microsoft and Intel are both working together to implement restrictions like UEFI that will allow them and the | Mar 26 20:59 |
| msb__ | Microsoft and Intel are both working together to implement restrictions like UEFI that will allow them and the US Fascist Empire to control everyone's computing. AMD is outside of this vicious gang. | Mar 26 21:00 |
| MinceR | does amd really stand up to intel? | Mar 26 21:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Microsoft Won't Let People Wipe (Off) Windows | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | But Happily Wipes Android, Wipes Android Apps | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Through Cyanogen http://t.co/2wNl1wd8GJ | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (techrights.org) | Mar 26 21:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Won’t Let People Wipe (Off) Windows But Happily Wipes Android, Wipes Android Apps Through Cyanogen and Blackmailed ‘Partners’ | Techrights | Mar 26 21:02 | |
| balrog | can we please not use inflammatory language like "US Fascist Empire" here? | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pillars Of Eternity RPG Released For Linux, | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Early Port Report Included | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/jpdNmWhIou (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 26 21:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Pillars Of Eternity RPG Released For Linux, Early Port Report Included | GamingOnLinux | Mar 26 21:02 | |
| balrog | it does not add to the conversation | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) | Mar 26 21:02 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/rYTH1FfGhC (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 26 21:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) | Tux Machines | Mar 26 21:02 | |
| msb__ | balrog: It is the US | Mar 26 21:02 |
| balrog | then just say "US" | Mar 26 21:03 |
| msb__ | balrog: It is the US Fascist Empire that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq after 2001 and murdered 2,000,000 in those nations. It is the American | Mar 26 21:03 |
| cubexyz | technically there is also VIA and MCST making x86 cpus | Mar 26 21:05 |
| cubexyz | and naturally you can go right off x86 if you want | Mar 26 21:05 |
| MinceR | and they're all weak, including amd | Mar 26 21:05 |
| msb__ | balrog: Fascist Empire that destroyed the nation of Libya, which thanks to Qaddafi's sharing of oil revenues with the people had the highest standard of living in Africa. | Mar 26 21:05 |
| balrog | msb__: this is #techrights, not ##politics. | Mar 26 21:05 |
| msb__ | balrog: It is the American | Mar 26 21:06 |
| cubexyz | IBM used to make x86 cpus | Mar 26 21:06 |
| MinceR | which were cyrix designs, afaik | Mar 26 21:06 |
| msb__ | balrog: It is the American Fascist Empire that installed a Nazi government in Ukraine. | Mar 26 21:06 |
| MinceR | and here we go with the saint putin bullshit routine again | Mar 26 21:07 |
| balrog | seriously, stop spewing disinformation and Putinist propaganda about Ukraine. | Mar 26 21:07 |
| MinceR | and we almost had reasonable discussion on topic | Mar 26 21:07 |
| MinceR | and cyrix was bought by via since then | Mar 26 21:07 |
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| msb__ | MinceR: balrog: I am telling the truth about these things. If it wasn't the American Fascist Empire that did these attacks and mass murders, who did? | Mar 26 21:08 |
| MinceR | stop trying to derail the discussion | Mar 26 21:08 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I proved to you that Nazi Ukraine jet fighters shot down the Malaysian airliner. I showed you the picture but you ignored it. | Mar 26 21:09 |
| MinceR | no, you did not | Mar 26 21:09 |
| MinceR | that picture was unsourced | Mar 26 21:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Arrives with ARM, ARM64, | Mar 26 21:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and IPv6 Fixes, Many Updated Drivers | Mar 26 21:10 |
| balrog | Did you read the Bellingcat report? | Mar 26 21:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Y2cZvRJGT7 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 26 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Arrives with ARM, ARM64, and IPv6 Fixes, Many Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Mar 26 21:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google makes deploying software on its cloud a | Mar 26 21:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | trivial task http://t.co/yWWkCSkUxT | Mar 26 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google makes deploying software on its cloud a trivial task | Tux Machines | Mar 26 21:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel Source Code of BQ Aquaris E4.5 | Mar 26 21:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Edition Published on GitHub | Mar 26 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Source Code of BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Published on GitHub | Tux Machines | Mar 26 21:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Android's Winning The Battle Right Now | Mar 26 21:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/6LKHB4DUl6 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 26 21:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why Android's Winning The Battle Right Now | Tux Machines | Mar 26 21:10 | |
| msb__ | balrog: Bellingcat? | Mar 26 21:11 |
| balrog | Yes | Mar 26 21:11 |
| msb__ | what is it | Mar 26 21:11 |
| balrog | They collected pictures, video, and other reports from social media and other places indicating Russian Buk movements, and put together a timeline that indicates that it's highly likely that a Buk was used to shoot down MH17. True, it's circumstantial evidence, but it's very thorough. | Mar 26 21:12 |
| balrog | https://www.bellingcat.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Origin-of-the-Separatists-Buk-A-Bellingcat-Investigation1.pdf | Mar 26 21:12 |
| msb__ | MinceR: "that picture was unsourced" I gave the name and article of the pilot who saved the picture before youtube removed it. What sources do you accept? | Mar 26 21:13 |
| MinceR | msb__: for starters, where did that site get the pictures from | Mar 26 21:14 |
| MinceR | they said "Source for all photos: Internet" | Mar 26 21:14 |
| MinceR | which is a red flag | Mar 26 21:14 |
| msb__ | The article I gave described it. | Mar 26 21:14 |
| MinceR | also, one of the supposed evidence they link to is a 404 page | Mar 26 21:14 |
| msb__ | What sources do you accept? | Mar 26 21:14 |
| MinceR | less suspicious ones than that | Mar 26 21:15 |
| msb__ | Only govt/corporatist/fascist media, right? | Mar 26 21:15 |
| MinceR | you would call all media that shows putin in a negative light "govt/corporatist/fascist", right? | Mar 26 21:15 |
| msb__ | Only ones that lie for the American Fascist Empire. | Mar 26 21:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) | Mar 26 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ydt1wqWB4z (www.techrepublic.com) | Mar 26 21:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techrepublic.com | The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) - TechRepublic | Mar 26 21:16 | |
| msb__ | This has nothing to do with your bete-noir Putin. | Mar 26 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Arrives with ARM, ARM64, | Mar 26 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and IPv6 Fixes, Many Updated Drivers | Mar 26 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/qnLl1QNpLD (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 26 21:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Arrives with ARM, ARM64, and IPv6 Fixes, Many Updated Drivers - Softpedia | Mar 26 21:16 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel Source Code of BQ Aquaris E4.5 | Mar 26 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu Edition Published on GitHub | Mar 26 21:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Ya2EngqwDr (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 26 21:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel Source Code of BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition Published on GitHub - Softpedia | Mar 26 21:16 | |
| msb__ | I guess the circumstantial evidence in the Bellingcat report can't account for the bidirectional holes in the metal. | Mar 26 21:17 |
| balrog | now where's that sourced from? | Mar 26 21:19 |
| MinceR | some random guy who put together a halfbaked website somewhere, apparently | Mar 26 21:19 |
| MinceR | whose source is "Internet" | Mar 26 21:19 |
| MinceR | these russian fascists aren't even trying anymore, it seems | Mar 26 21:19 |
| msb__ | It is the US Fascist Empire that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq after 2001 and murdered 2,000,000 in those nations. It is the American Fascist Empire that destroyed the nation of Libya, which thanks to Qaddafi's sharing of oil revenues with the people had the highest standard of living in Africa. It is the American Fascist Empire that installed a Nazi government in Ukraine. If it wasn't the American Fascist Empire that did these | Mar 26 21:21 |
| msb__ | attacks and mass murders, who and what did? | Mar 26 21:21 |
| msb__ | That is the brontosaurus in the room that you are trying to get us to ignore. | Mar 26 21:22 |
| msb__ | You will not get pictures sourced by the corporate/govt/fascist media because they all tell the same lies in order to distract people from the attacks and mass murders that I just listed. | Mar 26 21:23 |
| MinceR | so basically we're to take your word for it because you're very angry | Mar 26 21:24 |
| msb__ | MinceR: I never said any such thing. You are lying again. | Mar 26 21:25 |
| MinceR | yeah, you used different words | Mar 26 21:26 |
| MinceR | and as we know, everything can only be expressed by one word in the english language | Mar 26 21:26 |
| msb__ | http://globalresearch.ca/ and http://journal-neo.org/ provide reports from many different people from many nations. But MinceR and balrog call them "nutcase garbage sites" but you give no justification for labelling them that way. | Mar 26 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-globalresearch.ca | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization | Mar 26 21:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-journal-neo.org | New Eastern Outlook | Mar 26 21:29 | |
| MinceR | yeah, from many nations, including russia and russia | Mar 26 21:29 |
| MinceR | justification was already given | Mar 26 21:29 |
| msb__ | Many of the reports come from people in nations other than | Mar 26 21:30 |
| msb__ | Many of the reports come from people in nations other than Russia. | Mar 26 21:30 |
| msb__ | Probably most of them. | Mar 26 21:30 |
| msb__ | MinceR: No you are lying. Your justification was a website that quoted Daniel Pipes, an American Fascist associated with Stanford University's Hoover Institution, the group that programmed Yeltsin to destroy the Russian economy by selling off the state assets at a few percent of their value to ultrawealthy businessmen. | Mar 26 21:33 |
| MinceR | msb__: your "justification" was a website that reposts crap from RT. | Mar 26 21:34 |
| msb__ | The two websites I gave post information from many other sites than Russia Today. | Mar 26 21:35 |
| MinceR | yes, they also quote "the Internet" | Mar 26 21:36 |
| MinceR | and pages that don't exist | Mar 26 21:36 |
| msb__ | The site you gave quoted Daniel Pipes _defining_ "conspiracy" in order to cover up the fascist activities that he favors. | Mar 26 21:36 |
| msb__ | The Internet is the way the human race communicates today. | Mar 26 21:37 |
| msb__ | A page that no longer exists in no way disqualifies an entire article. | Mar 26 21:37 |
| msb__ | It is the US Fascist Empire that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq after 2001 and murdered 2,000,000 in those nations. It is the American Fascist Empire that destroyed the nation of Libya, which thanks to Qaddafi's sharing of oil revenues with the people had the highest standard of living in Africa. It is the American Fascist Empire that installed a Nazi government in Ukraine. If it wasn't the American Fascist Empire that did these | Mar 26 21:38 |
| msb__ | attacks and mass murders, who and what did? | Mar 26 21:38 |
| MinceR | hearsay or fabrication is hardly sufficient evidence to convict someone of shooting down an airplane. | Mar 26 21:38 |
| msb__ | Neither is circumstantial evidence that you admit doesn't prove anything. | Mar 26 21:39 |
| msb__ | Here's an article about the US-backed Nazi takeover of Ukraine, showing the Nazis with swastika-like symbols on their uniforms. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554 | Mar 26 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | The U.S. has Installed a Neo-Nazi Government in Ukraine | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization [ http://ur1.ca/ji3em ] | Mar 26 21:43 | |
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| msb__ | MinceR: It is the US Fascist Empire that invaded Afghanistan and Iraq after 2001 and murdered 2,000,000 in those nations. It is the American Fascist Empire that destroyed the nation of Libya, which thanks to Qaddafi's sharing of oil revenues with the people had the highest standard of living in Africa. It is the American Fascist Empire that installed a Nazi government in Ukraine. If it wasn't the American Fascist Empire that did | Mar 26 21:45 |
| msb__ | these attacks and mass murders, who and what did? | Mar 26 21:45 |
| MinceR | msb__: stop highlighting me in your crapflood | Mar 26 21:45 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Why won't you answer that question? | Mar 26 21:45 |
| msb__ | MinceR: Why won't you answer that question? | Mar 26 21:45 |
| *MinceR sets mode +q #techrights *!*msb*@* | Mar 26 21:46 | |
| *tessier (~treed@wsip-98-175-106-200.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #techrights | Mar 26 21:51 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why Android's Winning The Battle Right Now | Mar 26 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/9MYvDw5l6l (www.forbes.com) | Mar 26 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/jzqwq | Mar 26 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Why Android's Winning The Battle Right Now - Forbes | Mar 26 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines OS X 10.10 vs. Ubuntu 15.04 vs. Fedora 21 | Mar 26 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tests: Linux Sweeps The Board | Mar 26 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/OKTvKZ8buE (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 26 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/jzqwr | Mar 26 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OS X 10.10 vs. Ubuntu 15.04 vs. Fedora 21 Tests: Linux Sweeps The Board | Tux Machines | Mar 26 22:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Allwinner Continues Jerking Around The | Mar 26 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Open-Source Community http://t.co/Cj8yh2EAb3 | Mar 26 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 26 22:08 |
| TweetTuxMachines | ........................................ http://ur1.ca/jzqwt | Mar 26 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Allwinner Continues Jerking Around The Open-Source Community | Tux Machines | Mar 26 22:08 | |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: can you please remove the quiet flag? It's against the spirit of the site, even when there's strong disagreements... | Mar 26 22:23 |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Mar 26 22:24 | |
| *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz__ | Mar 26 22:25 | |
| *schestowitz__ gives voice to msb__ | Mar 26 22:26 | |
| MinceR | sure | Mar 26 22:26 |
| *MinceR sets mode -q #techrights *!*msb*@* | Mar 26 22:26 | |
| schestowitz__ | thanks | Mar 26 22:26 |
| MinceR | i thought filling up the channel with repeated garbage was more against the spirit of the site, but it's your call | Mar 26 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | msb__: stick to the topic | Mar 26 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | FOSS/Linux/TR | Mar 26 22:27 |
| msb__ | . | Mar 26 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Politics are for other channels, like -social | Mar 26 22:28 |
| msb__ | schestowitz__: Then will you order MinceR to stop attacking and lying about me. | Mar 26 22:28 |
| schestowitz__ | it's not him who put politics here | Mar 26 22:29 |
| *schestowitz__ scrolls back.. | Mar 26 22:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | msb__: you're gulible enough to fall for anything Russian propaganda says, and it in no way related to Linux | Mar 26 22:30 |
| msb__ | What I wrote has nothing to do with Russia. | Mar 26 22:31 |
| msb__ | I said, "Microsoft and Intel are both working together to implement restrictions like UEFI that will allow them and the US Fascist Empire to control everyone's computing. AMD is outside of this vicious gang." | Mar 26 22:31 |
| msb__ | That's when balrog and mincer started in on me. | Mar 26 22:31 |
| schestowitz__ | You use this FOSS channel to spread your myths about US bombing its own sskyscrapers, installing Nazis, taking down planes by proxy.. | Mar 26 22:31 |
| balrog | the words "Fascist Empire" in that statement only are there to provoke a political reaction | Mar 26 22:32 |
| msb__ | They are fact, not myth. | Mar 26 22:32 |
| schestowitz__ | There are forums for stuff like that and quite frankly they're not respected | Mar 26 22:32 |
| balrog | they are wholly unnecessary in the discussion | Mar 26 22:32 |
| schestowitz__ | putting that stuff here disgraces the site | Mar 26 22:32 |
| balrog | they are opinion, not fact. | Mar 26 22:32 |
| msb__ | balrog is lying. | Mar 26 22:32 |
| schestowitz__ | sugh | Mar 26 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | either way, let's stick to topic | Mar 26 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | no politics | Mar 26 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | only tuxmachines is echoed here because it's FOSS and Linux | Mar 26 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | Politics are in -social | Mar 26 22:33 |
| msb__ | AMD's opposition to Intel and Microsoft has strong implications for what you call "political". | Mar 26 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | Samsung wants to buy AMD, some sources say now... | Mar 26 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | But it's not poltiical | Mar 26 22:35 |
| msb__ | If they stop AMD's non-cooperation with Intel and Microsoft, then it will be very "political" indeed. | Mar 26 22:36 |
| balrog | there's plenty of politics within FOSS. Such as GPL vs BSD licensing, and such. But that's not at all related to geopolitics or Russia or Ukraine or the USA being "fascist" | Mar 26 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | AMD is worth very little now | Mar 26 22:37 |
| msb__ | schestowitz__: Isn't that why you wrote "Please no." ? | Mar 26 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | and whatever happens do it bears little impact on the software world | Mar 26 22:37 |
| balrog | isn't AMD's strongest business their graphics chip market? | Mar 26 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | either way, x86 as a whole is having issues | Mar 26 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | mobile devices eschew x86 | Mar 26 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | so it's ARM, Qualcomm even NVIDIA with Tegra that appear to be selling more units now | Mar 26 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | balrog: ATI didn't quite die, I guess.. | Mar 26 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | But AMD suffered a lot from the bribes and other illegal tactics of Intel | Mar 26 22:39 |
| balrog | ATI (AMD's graphics branch) is still going strong, and they are much more cooperative with FOSS than NVidia | Mar 26 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Intel is also cooperative, but not competitive performance-wise | Mar 26 22:39 |
| balrog | Intel's fortunately been improving their graphics side | Mar 26 22:40 |
| balrog | Annoyingly, Linux users tend to prefer nvidia, just because their proprietary driver is much less bug-ridden than AMD's, and the open source drivers are a lot slower. | Mar 26 22:40 |
| schestowitz__ | If only there was some real FOSS champion in the GPU scenes... those that tried fades after a while... Phoronix chronicled the stories of a few | Mar 26 22:40 |
| balrog | What's interesting is that nvidia has contributed Tegra code to Nouveau | Mar 26 22:40 |
| schestowitz__ | I didn't know | Mar 26 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I hate Tegra after I bought a Chromebook and worked hard to put Linux on it | Mar 26 22:41 |
| balrog | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2014-January/053028.html | Mar 26 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freedesktop.org | [RFC 00/16] drm/nouveau: initial support for GK20A (Tegra K1) [ http://ur1.ca/jzr23 ] | Mar 26 22:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | It still doesn't work right, it also uses BGR instead of RGB | Mar 26 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | so the colours are still all wrong, no dual-head, etc. | Mar 26 22:41 |
| msb__ | Mobile devices with small screens and difficult keyboards are not suited to intelligent conscious detailed discussions that are necessary to overcome the huge flood of fascist propaganda. It requires desktops and laptops. | Mar 26 22:41 |
| balrog | ugh... | Mar 26 22:41 |
| balrog | what's that even supposed to mean | Mar 26 22:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Tegra needs better drivers | Mar 26 22:42 |
| schestowitz__ | !google NVIDIA torvalds wants to sell | Mar 26 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Linus Torvalds: Nvidia, Fuck You! - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DiYWzMvlj2RQ | Mar 26 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - You've Got To Watch Thi Video of Linux Torvalds Flipping Off Nvidia ... | http://www.businessinsider.com/youve-got-to-watch-thi-video-of-linux-torvalds-flipping-off-nvidia-2012-6 | Mar 26 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Linus Torvalds Gives Nvidia the Finger. Literally | WIRED | http://www.wired.com/2012/06/torvalds-nvidia-linux/ | Mar 26 22:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Linus Torvalds F-bombs Nvidia over lack of Linux support | ZDNet | http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-f-bombs-nvidia-over-lack-of-linux-support/ | Mar 26 22:42 |
| balrog | schestowitz__: are you running a mainline kernel? | Mar 26 22:42 |
| MinceR | it would be nice to see how (if at all) AMD resists the war on the general purpose computer | Mar 26 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | they try to build an Android-Tegra empire but can't be bothered with mainline Linux support | Mar 26 22:43 |
| balrog | the problem with a lot of this stuff is that it often takes a while because it trickles down to distros. | Mar 26 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah, beat me to it, on mainline | Mar 26 22:43 |
| balrog | mainline isn't always perfect either | Mar 26 22:43 |
| balrog | I've got a freescale i.mx6 embedded box | Mar 26 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe future versions of chrobuntu will work better | Mar 26 22:43 |
| balrog | and mainline *finally* supports pretty much everything | Mar 26 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | for now, it's a very limited laptop | Mar 26 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | also no sound support | Mar 26 22:44 |
| balrog | but for the longest time I've had to run 3.14 with the i.mx6 patch set | Mar 26 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | wasted many hours wrestling to try to get it to work | Mar 26 22:44 |
| balrog | :/ | Mar 26 22:44 |
| balrog | this an acer Chromebook 13 with tegra K1? | Mar 26 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: I think AMD does lots of barebones stuff, inc. in servers | Mar 26 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | mine is HP 14 | Mar 26 22:45 |
| MinceR | are they doing anything about laptops? | Mar 26 22:45 |
| balrog | is it a K1? | Mar 26 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | I think a newer gen of Tegra | Mar 26 22:45 |
| balrog | looks like a K1 | Mar 26 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | !google processor hp chromebook 14 | Mar 26 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Chrome Notebook HP Chromebook | HP® Official Site | http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/chromebooks/overview.html | Mar 26 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Google Chrome Notebook HP Chromebook Specs | HP® Official Site | http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/chromebooks/specs.html | Mar 26 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - HP Chromebook 14" with Intel Processor, 4GB Memory, 16GB SSD ... | http://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Chromebook-14-with-Intel-Processor-4GB-Memory-16GB-SSD-Chrome-OS-and-Included-4G-Mobile-Internet-Service-200MB-month/28858405 | Mar 26 22:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - HP Chromebook 14 review | The Verge | http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/5/5175850/hp-chromebook-14-review | Mar 26 22:46 |
| balrog | http://elinux.org/Jetson_TK1#Mainline has info, seems it's still very "do it yourself" | Mar 26 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elinux.org | Jetson TK1 - eLinux.org | Mar 26 22:46 | |
| schestowitz__ | I considered even changing x11 code and recompiling | Mar 26 22:46 |
| balrog | I started running this ARM i.mx6 box nearly a year ago, on kernel 3.10 | Mar 26 22:46 |
| balrog | it was available for half a year before that | Mar 26 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | but I don't want to kill X on this machine in the process | Mar 26 22:46 |
| balrog | and only *now* does mainline support everything | Mar 26 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | i found the patch for some bugs | Mar 26 22:47 |
| balrog | (except for the proprietary gpu driver. the FOSS one probably would work) | Mar 26 22:47 |
| balrog | (but of course no 3D yet and slower) | Mar 26 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | 3d is not needed for many things | Mar 26 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | unless you render/game | Mar 26 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | but I want the colour and dual-head sorted | Mar 26 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | it works on the ChromeOS side | Mar 26 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | but ChromeOS is usefless | Mar 26 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | *less | Mar 26 22:48 |
| MinceR | you can put another distro on it, but then you get a pointless delay on boot | Mar 26 22:48 |
| MinceR | you can probably hack coreboot (re-flash) to fix that, but that might lose warranty | Mar 26 22:48 |
| balrog | as long as you can flash original bios back on :p | Mar 26 22:49 |
| MinceR | plus you get low-capacity mass storage | Mar 26 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | all in all, it's useful for some tasks | Mar 26 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | I worked from it whilst abroad | Mar 26 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | it's OK for reading news and posting some stuff | Mar 26 22:50 |
| MinceR | for "some tasks" i have an android tablet :> | Mar 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | it's light and thin | Mar 26 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Singapore-Reunion/Changi-Airport/changi-airport-12 | Mar 26 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | changi-airport-12 [ http://ur1.ca/jzr49 ] | Mar 26 22:51 | |
| schestowitz__ | http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Singapore-Reunion/Changi-Airport/changi-airport-22 | Mar 26 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | changi-airport-22 [ http://ur1.ca/jzr4c ] | Mar 26 22:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | can use it while walking, it's light enough | Mar 26 22:52 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: mine is cracked | Mar 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz__ | so I leave it home now, at least it's not cracked to the point of being totally unusable, yet | Mar 26 22:53 |
| schestowitz__ | it already got severely cracked before, i had to replace the whole screen and digitizer or whatever they call the thing beneath it | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: I'm back to my Palm PDA | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | I bought a 'new' old one | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | unused on ebay | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Palm Tungsten | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | good for voice memos | Mar 26 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5830540 | Mar 26 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-linux-desktop-battle-and-why-it-matters/ | Mar 26 23:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techrepublic.com | The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/jzr5z ] | Mar 26 23:02 | |
| schestowitz__ | "one linux desktop? what a pile of bs!" | Mar 26 23:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "Lennart Poettering's dream come true - he's already suggested (demanded) it." | Mar 26 23:02 |
| MinceR | mine is only rooted :> | Mar 26 23:04 |
| MinceR | again, the old bullshit of forcing one thing on everybody | Mar 26 23:05 |
| MinceR | i guess some people will never see the error of their ways | Mar 26 23:05 |
| cubexyz | lame article | Mar 26 23:07 |
| schestowitz__ | dOS | Mar 26 23:07 |
| schestowitz__ | Jack Wallen is usually quite OK | Mar 26 23:08 |
| schestowitz__ | blaming everything except the possibility of rogue play by rivals like Microsoft | Mar 26 23:09 |
| schestowitz__ | A lot of the Comes vs Microsoft sheds light on the big barriers | Mar 26 23:09 |
| *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@162.244.24.224) has left #techrights | Mar 26 23:09 | |
| cubexyz | people really should study the history of Unix more | Mar 26 23:10 |
| cubexyz | and I find it hard to abide linux desktop articles | Mar 26 23:11 |
| cubexyz | it's been my desktop over a decade | Mar 26 23:11 |
| cubexyz | and chromebooks really have changed things recently | Mar 26 23:11 |
| cubexyz | Linux on the desktop DID happen | Mar 26 23:13 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/581231906487971840 | Mar 26 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz i only know the civilian airport (wonderfully air-conditioned,self-contained) & neighborhood around Orchard & old Arab Street. | Mar 26 23:13 | |
| cubexyz | customers who don't know anything about Linux bought chromebooks, that's a huge change | Mar 26 23:13 |
| schestowitz__ | Walk up to Little India to see what they don't want you to see. 5-minute walk from Bugis Junction. | Mar 26 23:13 |
| cubexyz | gnome/kde/etc doesn't even matter | Mar 26 23:14 |
| schestowitz__ | I ought to have taken more photos in #singapore - e.g. children in army uniform, people in their 80s doing hard labour | Mar 26 23:15 |
| cubexyz | completely superficial | Mar 26 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | cubexyz: did you try chromebooks? | Mar 26 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Or Chrome? | Mar 26 23:15 |
| cubexyz | I have | Mar 26 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | ChromeOS is scary a concept | Mar 26 23:15 |
| cubexyz | I would KO chromeOS and put something else on it though | Mar 26 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | reducing people to useds of a Web browser without privacy and without control, at least Google facilitates dev mode | Mar 26 23:16 |
| cubexyz | right, without that I wouldn't be interested in it | Mar 26 23:16 |
| cubexyz | fortunately I have folks in #coreboot who are very helpful | Mar 26 23:17 |
| cubexyz | if I'm going to choose between Microsoft and Google, well I'm going to pick Google | Mar 26 23:18 |
| cubexyz | I can also choose between ASUS, HP, Dell, Toshiba... and Lenovo? | Mar 26 23:19 |
| cubexyz | not sure about that last one | Mar 26 23:20 |
| cubexyz | and Acer, not that Acer would be my top choice, but it's still another option | Mar 26 23:20 |
| cubexyz | no need for one OS to 'rule them all' | Mar 26 23:23 |
| cubexyz | Bell Labs could have kept Research Unix going... but it stopped after version 10 | Mar 26 23:24 |
| cubexyz | then they concentrated on Plan 9 after that | Mar 26 23:25 |
| cubexyz | many great ideas first appeared in Research Unix | Mar 26 23:26 |
| MinceR | 001852 < cubexyz> if I'm going to choose between Microsoft and Google, well I'm going to pick Google | Mar 26 23:27 |
| MinceR | same here | Mar 26 23:27 |
| cubexyz | Unix v8 was a modified 4.1BSD for VAX... then v9 was a sort of hybrid 4.3BSD + AT&T Unix | Mar 26 23:28 |
| cubexyz | so anyways, Chromebooks got a lot of OEM support | Mar 26 23:30 |
| cubexyz | Google is strong enough to fight Microsoft now | Mar 26 23:30 |
| cubexyz | but Research Unix is worthy of study... Linux used a lot of their ideas | Mar 26 23:31 |
| cubexyz | of course they used some ideas from BSD as well | Mar 26 23:31 |
| cubexyz | how many educational institutions got Unix v8 you might ask | Mar 26 23:33 |
| cubexyz | I'm sorry to say it was no more than a dozen | Mar 26 23:33 |
| cubexyz | there was some massive problem releasing the source code because of IBM vs SCO | Mar 26 23:34 |
| cubexyz | so Linus and Stallman did something pretty necessary and important | Mar 26 23:37 |
| cubexyz | Stallman of course with gcc and the gpl | Mar 26 23:37 |
| cubexyz | Linus with the kernel | Mar 26 23:37 |
| cubexyz | a good Unix like system for commodity hardware | Mar 26 23:38 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5830540 | Mar 26 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-linux-desktop-battle-and-why-it-matters/ | Mar 26 23:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techrepublic.com | The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/jzr5z ] | Mar 26 23:40 | |
| schestowitz__ | ""one linux desktop? what a pile of bs! | Mar 26 23:40 |
| schestowitz__ | "Lennart Poettering's dream come true - he's already suggested (demanded) it." | Mar 26 23:40 |
| schestowitz__ | cubexyz: depends what from Google | Mar 26 23:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Android and ChromeiumOS are FOSS | Mar 26 23:40 |
| schestowitz__ | The hardware that comes with them doesn't prevent hacking | Mar 26 23:41 |
| schestowitz__ | in fact, Android too have dev mode | Mar 26 23:41 |
| cubexyz | ah but the firmware is FOSS, that's important | Mar 26 23:41 |
| cubexyz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2337180/new-attack-methods-can-brick-systems-defeat-secure-boot-researchers-say.html | Mar 26 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | New attacks defeat Secure Boot and brick PCs | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jzrcc ] | Mar 26 23:42 | |
| cubexyz | you can reflash your firmware on the chromebook, then kick it back into normal mode | Mar 26 23:43 |
| cubexyz | so your firmware is safe | Mar 26 23:43 |
| cubexyz | you have to pretty well open the case to set dev mode | Mar 26 23:43 |
| MinceR | joke's on them, you don't need to attack uefi to brick it | Mar 26 23:44 |
| MinceR | it will brick itself | Mar 26 23:44 |
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| cubexyz | if something clobbers your MBR it's not that hard to fix | Mar 26 23:46 |
| schestowitz__ | xhttps://diasp.eu/uploads/images/scaled_full_32e66b0725f49b003a31.jpg | Mar 26 23:46 |
| cubexyz | backup firmware, backup mbr, backup data | Mar 26 23:46 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5830314 | Mar 26 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #PillarsOfEternity RPG Released For Linux, Early Port Report Included https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/pillars-of-eternity-rpg-released-for-linux-early-port-report-included.5156 #games #gnu #linux | Mar 26 23:48 | |
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| schestowitz__ | "I'm going to buy this when I am home this evening. This may just lead me away from WoW." | Mar 26 23:48 |
| cubexyz | if some uber-hacker clobbered my firmware I can reprogram it back, not that I think it's likely to happen | Mar 26 23:48 |
| schestowitz__ | WoW is under NSA and GCHQ surveillance now | Mar 26 23:48 |
| MinceR | if uefi shits into nonvolatile memory, fixing your mbr won't help | Mar 26 23:49 |
| cubexyz | I have a separate eprom programmer | Mar 26 23:50 |
| cubexyz | plus none of my machines have UEFI :) | Mar 26 23:51 |
| MinceR | thanks to planned obsolescence, they'll break | Mar 26 23:52 |
| MinceR | and the only available replacements will be crippled with uefi & co. | Mar 26 23:52 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll let you choose if your crippled web browser appliance will totally fail at its task using windows and ie or using macos and safari, though | Mar 26 23:53 |
| cubexyz | PDP-11, or older I'd worry. MicroVax parts? lots of those | Mar 26 23:58 |
| cubexyz | and the world is drowning in x86 parts | Mar 26 23:59 |
| cubexyz | MicroVax monitors might cost a few bucks though | Mar 27 00:00 |
| MinceR | then the world government will declare them illegal and impound them :> | Mar 27 00:01 |
| schestowitz__ | cubexyz: I have a question | Mar 27 00:01 |
| schestowitz__ | a machine of mine died yesterday. When switched off the 2 fans at the bottom spin, the heatsink fan struggles to spin, moves sporadically if at all | Mar 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz__ | the lights don't come on and no beep, only fans move a lot and there's a light on the mobo, not facing outwards to the user. What might be the cause? | Mar 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz__ | When switched off > I meant on | Mar 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz__ | I already tried disconnecting everything, including rhe RAM chip, the hard drive, all the wires at the back | Mar 27 00:04 |
| schestowitz__ | I even tried chansing the mobo battery to a new one | Mar 27 00:04 |
| cubexyz | well the power supply could be bad | Mar 27 00:04 |
| cubexyz | that's the first thing I'd check | Mar 27 00:04 |
| schestowitz__ | but why would the fans spin? | Mar 27 00:04 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyTA33HQZLA | Mar 27 00:04 |
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| schestowitz__ | that's the genius of it | Mar 27 00:04 |
| cubexyz | the capacitors inside the power supply will hold some energy | Mar 27 00:05 |
| schestowitz__ | cubexyz: it's an old machine, at least 10 year old server | Mar 27 00:05 |
| cubexyz | is the power supply the original part? | Mar 27 00:05 |
| schestowitz__ | I think so | Mar 27 00:06 |
| cubexyz | ok, well, it probably needs changed :) | Mar 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | it seems like there's lots of power coming in as 2 fans spin fast, the heatsink fan is the one struggling | Mar 27 00:06 |
| cubexyz | which era of motherboard is this? | Mar 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | so my theory is, maybe it detects this issue and refuses to start anything cpu-dependent? | Mar 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz__ | which era? Over 10 years ago | Mar 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | Intel, maybe Celeron | Mar 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | not sure which one, might need to check | Mar 27 00:07 |
| cubexyz | P4? | Mar 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe | Mar 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | can it be the power supply if the fans spin? | Mar 27 00:07 |
| cubexyz | I have lots of stuff older than that, but everything needs maintainance | Mar 27 00:07 |
| cubexyz | check your memory socket for dust and dirt | Mar 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | either it gets it all when switched on or nothing at all based on my experience with bad power units | Mar 27 00:08 |
| cubexyz | that builds up over time | Mar 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | I even removed the memoty | Mar 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | it made no difference | Mar 27 00:08 |
| cubexyz | compressed air, clean it all out | Mar 27 00:08 |
| schestowitz__ | what would happen if it's dusty? | Mar 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | won't boot? Beep? | Mar 27 00:09 |
| cubexyz | faulty connections... garbled video or no video | Mar 27 00:09 |
| cubexyz | all kinds of things | Mar 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | I cleaned it inside less than 1 year ago | Mar 27 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | it crashed in a weird way (plasma crash, forze) twice recentl | Mar 27 00:10 |
| cubexyz | some computers need to be cleaned more often | Mar 27 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | this time it was fatal I guess | Mar 27 00:10 |
| cubexyz | do you have a cat? :) | Mar 27 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | no | Mar 27 00:10 |
| cubexyz | also check for bad smells, or cap damage | Mar 27 00:11 |
| cubexyz | signs of discolouration | Mar 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I did, couldn't find any | Mar 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | the only irregular thing is the heatsink fan | Mar 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | I can 'help' it spin | Mar 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | otherwise it struggles a bit | Mar 27 00:11 |
| cubexyz | bearings on the fan could be worn out | Mar 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz__ | this machine used to shut down a lot due to heat in summer | Mar 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz__ | what would happen if the fans didn't work well. I read about this stuff online and I expect to at least hear some beeps | Mar 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz__ | or see some message, or lights | Mar 27 00:12 |
| schestowitz__ | for power if now disk too | Mar 27 00:12 |
| cubexyz | can you get into the bios setup? | Mar 27 00:13 |
| cubexyz | if it's not posting you won't be able to do anything | Mar 27 00:13 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000607.htm | Mar 27 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerhope.com | POST troubleshooting steps. [ http://ur1.ca/jz802 ] | Mar 27 00:13 | |
| schestowitz__ | no, no bios setup, nowhere near | Mar 27 00:13 |
| schestowitz__ | usually when switched on the fans start, the two lights go on, then there's a picture on the monitor | Mar 27 00:14 |
| cubexyz | try a known working power supply, replace the old one | Mar 27 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | this time it's just the sound of the fans spinning, nothing else | Mar 27 00:14 |
| cubexyz | that's the first thing to try | Mar 27 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | I tried a working power supply from another PC, same outcome | Mar 27 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | if you eamn cable and socket | Mar 27 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | not the internal stuff | Mar 27 00:14 |
| schestowitz__ | *mean | Mar 27 00:14 |
| cubexyz | no, the psu that plugs into the motherboard, change that | Mar 27 00:15 |
| cubexyz | oh you did that | Mar 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz__ | cable and socket | Mar 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz__ | not the screwable things | Mar 27 00:15 |
| cubexyz | I mean the ATX power supply | Mar 27 00:15 |
| cubexyz | I assume it's ATX | Mar 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz__ | it's not a standard desktop but a rackable thing,. sort of.. | Mar 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Even if I had a spare one, it's tricket to work with the parts | Mar 27 00:16 |
| schestowitz__ | detaching the HDD is almost impossible, I can't get to the screws on one side | Mar 27 00:16 |
| schestowitz__ | I've made replacements for it | Mar 27 00:17 |
| schestowitz__ | I guess I'll let her (liberty) rest in peace for now, unless I want a special project in my hands... already spent some hours in vain. Thanks for your advice anyway, much appreciated. gn | Mar 27 00:18 |
| cubexyz | ok :) | Mar 27 00:18 |
| MinceR | o/ | Mar 27 00:19 |
| schestowitz__ | o/ | Mar 27 00:19 |
| cubexyz | the coppermine p3's have lasted a lot time for me... my oldest one is from 1998 :) | Mar 27 00:19 |
| cubexyz | UPS will help extend the life of a computer | Mar 27 00:20 |
| cubexyz | also external usb drives can muck things up | Mar 27 00:22 |
| MinceR | how do they muck things up? | Mar 27 00:24 |
| cubexyz | the chips inside the usb drive die easily | Mar 27 00:24 |
| cubexyz | probably I've been buying cheap junky ones | Mar 27 00:25 |
| cubexyz | when I stopped using it the computer seemed to run better | Mar 27 00:25 |
| MinceR | ic | Mar 27 00:26 |
| cubexyz | the drive itself will survive, but the enclosure and chips in the enclosure will stop working | Mar 27 00:26 |
| cubexyz | it's happened to me 3 times so far | Mar 27 00:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | GNOME 3.16 Released, See What's New And Improved | Mar 27 09:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Dell 4K laptop with Linux: Tough construction | Mar 27 09:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and built for developers. | Mar 27 09:03 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5830538 | Mar 27 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) http://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-linux-desktop-battle-and-why-it-matters/ #gnu | Mar 27 09:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techrepublic.com | The Linux desktop battle (and why it matters) - TechRepublic [ http://ur1.ca/jzr5z ] | Mar 27 09:14 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Doesn't matter if it's one DE or 1000, that's not what holds Linux back on the Desktop. Wake me up when a corporation the size of M$, Apple, etc put money behind hardware with Linux Desktop pre-installed. That's why Linux doesn't succeed on the Desktop. Gaining that kind of market share takes a concerted effort--engineering, development, branding, marketing, a sales strategy." | Mar 27 09:14 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | So, in this person's opinion, Linux is held back by people whose favorite DE is not his favorite DE. | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Change for the sake of change really is stupid. I'll continue to use MATE because it's better than Unity or Gnome 3. The fact that it looks old-fashioned to this stupid git (sorry, person) is of no importance what-so-ever. | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | It comes down to this: If someone is going to switch to Linux (as I did), it will have to be because she/he wants more choices, not fewer. People who want fewer choices will take whatever Microsoft decides to give them...and probably be irrational enough to complain about it. Reminds me of people who vote for Demopublicans complaining about the US government. | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | We can wise up a lot of the suckers, but we can't do it gulling them the same way they're already being gulled. They'll have to abandon the herd instinct, or they're beyond hope. They'll have to start thinking for themselves. | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Rant finished. | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | "Lennart Poettering's dream come true - he's already suggested (demanded) it" | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | +1 | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | The biggest difference between Windows, OS X, and Linux is simple -- choice. With Linux, you can choose whatever you want to serve as your desktop interface. | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Its a pitty he had to especify with "as your desktop interface"...because it is obvious it already left behind the idea of Choice... | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | init anyone?@harry haller (nerdpol.ch) | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 27 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Subversive actions against GNU/Linux adoption, as evidence from the Comes vs Microsoft trial serve to show, play a greater role. But it's easy to just blame GNU/Linux to advance one's own agenda | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | *serves to show, played | Mar 27 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5829253 | Mar 27 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #synthesizer #modularsynthesizer #modularsynthesis #musicproduction #parenting #drugs | Mar 27 09:25 | |
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| schestowitz__ | "lol" | Mar 27 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New GNOME 3.16 Getting a Lot of Attention for Improvements | Tux Machines | Mar 27 11:29 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Dell 4K laptop with Linux: Tough construction | Mar 27 11:29 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/581420931823886337 | Mar 27 11:46 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Bad Grandpa said: | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | "Imagine a teenage boy, not much younger than many of you here today, growing up | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | in Cuba. Jet black hair, skinny as a rail. | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Imagine a young married couple, living together in the 1970s, neither | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | one of them has a personal relationship with Jesus." | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | ------ | Mar 27 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | JRBD: Did they try looking in Cuba? :) | Mar 27 11:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Released with KDE Plasma 5 as Default Desktop - Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines | Mar 27 12:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Kylin 15.04 Beta 2 Is Now Available for | Mar 27 13:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Kylin 15.04 Beta 2 Is Now Available for Download - Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines | Mar 27 13:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Bazel: Google Build Tool is now Open Source | Mar 27 13:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bazel: Google Build Tool is now Open Source | Tux Machines | Mar 27 13:00 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4 keys to success for LibreOffice as a service | Mar 27 13:00 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 keys to success for LibreOffice as a service | Tux Machines | Mar 27 13:00 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/ph_2907/status/581440867149447168 | Mar 27 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ph_2907: @schestowitz Isn't there a way to fork an older version? | Mar 27 13:18 | |
| schestowitz__ | Should be, if Apple doesn't sue | Mar 27 13:18 |
| balrog | schestowitz__: the connectors and small amount of stuff on github, maybe, not FoundationDB itself, as it's always been closed source, under an EULA that contains a confidentiality agreement | Mar 27 13:55 |
| balrog | schestowitz__: the first comment is worth reading | Mar 27 13:55 |
| schestowitz__ | balrog: cheers, I'll check | Mar 27 14:03 |
| balrog | schestowitz__: I linked the EULA here before: http://web.archive.org/web/20150325004719/https://foundationdb.com/files/CommunityLicenseAgreement.pdf | Mar 27 14:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Late Week in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 27 15:02 | |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 27 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | If the Church of Satan establishes a legal right to smoke pot, I might just have to reconsider religion. | Mar 27 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | Hail Santa! (Damned dyslexia attack....Grrr!) | Mar 27 17:14 |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 27 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | The AIDS crisis of Southern Indianastan is just the latest in a string of Mike Pence's failed policies and failure to lead. Any decent person would have authorized a needle exchange program as the lesser evil months ago. | Mar 27 17:17 |
| DaemonFC | At least now we know what went wrong. These people apparently only come out of their heroin-induced stupor and stop giving each other AIDS for five minutes once every four years so they can go vote for people like Mike Pence. | Mar 27 17:17 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 27 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | John Gregg is an evangelical Christian. I voted for him for governor in 2012 because I don't think that these catastrophes would be going on under his watch. | Mar 27 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | I think he'd take a look at the scourge of HIV/AIDS that is being spread for lack of some clean 10 cent syringes and decide that banning needle exchanges is a really awful idea on the whole. I don't dislike Mike Pence for being a Christian. I dislike him because he's "one of those" Christians that uses it as a cover story for being a complete wretch. | Mar 27 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | You know, just to clear the air. I don't believe in any religion. I think they all lack merit and have failed to prove any of their assertions. If they proved themselves, then we'd call them "scientists", not a bunch of people rolling around on the floor talking gibberish. (The form of Christianity that you see the most of in rural Indiana.) | Mar 27 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | And we really have to talk about what tongue-talking holy rollers are doing. If they did it outside of church, in public, they'd be on a psych ward, with the people who masturbate in public and talk to buildings. | Mar 27 17:29 |
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| __martin__ | softies evangelism in real-time | Mar 27 18:00 |
| __martin__ | http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/03/noose-around-internets-tls-system-tightens-with-2-new-decryption-attacks/ | Mar 27 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Noose around Internet’s TLS system tightens with 2 new decryption attacks | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/k04zg ] | Mar 27 18:00 | |
| MinceR | that's arse technica for you | Mar 27 18:00 |
| __martin__ | (= | Mar 27 18:00 |
| __martin__ | DaemonFC: nice point regards religions | Mar 27 18:00 |
| cubexyz | how is that softies evangelism? | Mar 27 18:01 |
| __martin__ | author is dan goodin | Mar 27 18:02 |
| __martin__ | and microsoft undermines web standards with purpose | Mar 27 18:02 |
| cubexyz | oh I see | Mar 27 18:02 |
| MinceR | not like they have to try hard | Mar 27 18:03 |
| MinceR | the w3c is helping them | Mar 27 18:03 |
| cubexyz | so they are trying to replace RC4 with....? | Mar 27 18:03 |
| balrog | AES right now | Mar 27 18:03 |
| balrog | since RC4 is *crap* | Mar 27 18:03 |
| MinceR | next, the clipper chip | Mar 27 18:04 |
| balrog | and ChaCha20 in the near future | Mar 27 18:04 |
| *__martin__ remembers disabling RC4 in about:config | Mar 27 18:04 | |
| balrog | (which is from Dan Bernstein's group) | Mar 27 18:04 |
| cubexyz | so if I'm doing online banking am I using RC4? | Mar 27 18:04 |
| balrog | you don't want to be using RC4 | Mar 27 18:04 |
| __martin__ | why is Intel so schizophrenic? | Mar 27 18:07 |
| __martin__ | I mean how come that one company division puts active code dumps into coreboot git | Mar 27 18:07 |
| __martin__ | whereas other implements all these anti-theft drm mechanisms and tightens the grip regards uefi signed censored boot | Mar 27 18:08 |
| MinceR | maybe it has divisions at war with each other, like microsoft | Mar 27 18:08 |
| cubexyz | quite possible | Mar 27 18:08 |
| cubexyz | ok, according to this security report my bank is using RC4 128 | Mar 27 18:09 |
| cubexyz | this could be old information though | Mar 27 18:11 |
| balrog | cubexyz: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest | Mar 27 18:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ssllabs.com | SSL Server Test (Powered by Qualys SSL Labs) | Mar 27 18:11 | |
| balrog | MinceR: you're probably right about that | Mar 27 18:12 |
| cubexyz | hmmm | Mar 27 18:13 |
| cubexyz | still looks like RC4 is used | Mar 27 18:14 |
| cubexyz | if one turns off RC4 they get "affected by BEAST" whatever that means | Mar 27 18:22 |
| __martin__ | lol | Mar 27 18:27 |
| __martin__ | that timing | Mar 27 18:27 |
| __martin__ | now I read that this month Intel PR made a PR stunt event for companies regards low usage of vPro by default | Mar 27 18:27 |
| balrog | cubexyz: you're screwed either way, basically | Mar 27 18:27 |
| __martin__ | they masked it with energy cost savings | Mar 27 18:27 |
| balrog | __martin__: link? | Mar 27 18:27 |
| __martin__ | http://dsl.sk/article.php?article=16832 | Mar 27 18:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dsl.sk | DSL.sk - V 55% slovenskch firiem beia potae nonstop | Mar 27 18:28 | |
| __martin__ | put into translator | Mar 27 18:28 |
| balrog | low usage of vPro is due to how annoying it is to set up | Mar 27 18:28 |
| __martin__ | I mean | Mar 27 18:28 |
| __martin__ | advertising surveillance capabilities due to energy savings | Mar 27 18:28 |
| __martin__ | how hillarious xD | Mar 27 18:28 |
| __martin__ | (other than that it might be true that 55% of corporate XP desktops are turned on through nights) | Mar 27 18:29 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/ph_2907/status/581451068372058112 https://twitter.com/ph_2907/status/581440867149447168 | Mar 27 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ph_2907: @schestowitz does the license it was under allow them to change license on past versions? | Mar 27 18:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ph_2907: @schestowitz Isn't there a way to fork an older version? | Mar 27 18:34 | |
| schestowitz__ | I think we need to ask licensing people | Mar 27 18:34 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu Kylin 15.04 Beta 2 Is Now Available for | Mar 27 18:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Y0sSrn7UWK (www.alibaba.com) do you | Mar 27 18:41 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 Beta 2 Still Uses the GNOME | Mar 27 18:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu GNOME 15.04 Beta 2 Still Uses the GNOME 3.14 Desktop - Gallery - Softpedia | Mar 27 18:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines These Ubuntu screenshots show what 15.04 is | Mar 27 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | like http://t.co/66ZPSd175S | Mar 27 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) MATE edition screenshots: | Mar 27 18:44 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Asus ZenWatch review: a sophisticated-looking | Mar 27 18:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android smartwatch http://t.co/NCKZSWRcgQ | Mar 27 18:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Asus ZenWatch review: a sophisticated-looking Android smartwatch | Technology | The Guardian | Mar 27 18:44 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines User-friendly virtual hosting with TurnKey | Mar 27 20:08 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Interview with Jeremy Davis of TurnKey Linux | Opensource.com | Mar 27 20:08 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Released, Offers a Neat | Mar 27 20:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | Create Apps for GNOME 3.16 | Mar 27 20:23 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Open-Source Driver Fans Will Love NVIDIA's New | Mar 27 20:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-article.gmane.org | Gmane -- Linux 3.19.3 | Mar 27 21:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Zentyal announces Zentyal Server 4.1 | Mar 27 21:07 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zentyal.org | Zentyal announces Zentyal Server 4.1 | Zentyal Server Development Edition | Mar 27 21:07 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KDE Activities scarcely used | Mar 27 21:08 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Shadow Warrior Is Being Released For Linux Next | Mar 27 21:18 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New Kernel Releases http://t.co/Bx7kARIc9u | Mar 27 21:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zentyal announces Zentyal Server 4.1 | Tux Machines | Mar 27 21:20 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines THE RISE OF ANDROID: How a flailing startup | Mar 27 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | became the world's biggest computing platform | Mar 27 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | THE RISE OF ANDROID: How a flailing startup became the world's biggest computing platform | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Samsung Galaxy S6 or HTC One M9: Which Android | Mar 27 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | flagship did you pre-order today? | Mar 27 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samsung Galaxy S6 or HTC One M9: Which Android flagship did you pre-order today? | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines EC to create level playing field for open | Mar 27 22:24 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source http://t.co/8UD2kIZnRJ | Mar 27 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EC to create level playing field for open source | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:24 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tiny WiFi-loaded OpenWRT COM starts at $12 | Mar 27 22:24 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tiny WiFi-loaded OpenWRT COM starts at $12 | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:24 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Data-Driven Look at the Open Source | Mar 27 22:53 |
| TweetTuxMachines | E-Commerce Market http://t.co/3kY3D4Una9 | Mar 27 22:53 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Data-Driven Look at the Open Source E-Commerce Market | Tux Machines | Mar 27 22:53 | |
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| cubexyz | http://hackeducation.com/2011/07/19/the-wrath-against-khan-why-some-educators-are-questioning-khan-academy/ | Mar 28 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackeducation.com | The Wrath Against Khan: Why Some Educators Are Questioning Khan Academy [ http://ur1.ca/k08vp ] | Mar 28 01:05 | |
| cubexyz | I know it's old, but I thought it might be interesting if anyone missed it | Mar 28 01:06 |
| cubexyz | btw if you do some coding courses with Kahn Academy you will probably be doing windows coding | Mar 28 01:10 |
| cubexyz | probably schestowitz has looked into this already | Mar 28 01:20 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @AppTarsii favourited 'Here are Two Android Alternatives for Meerkat and...' | Mar 28 01:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Snag the Android Auto compatible Pioneer | Mar 28 01:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | AVH-4100NEX for just $570 from Amazon | Mar 28 01:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/TugRoeUhC2 (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 01:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Snag the Android Auto compatible Pioneer AVH-4100NEX for just $570 from Amazon | Tux Machines | Mar 28 01:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The 9 best distros for KDE’s Plasma desktop | Mar 28 01:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 9 best distros for KDE’s Plasma desktop | Tux Machines | Mar 28 01:47 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Docker at Age 2 Reaches Out Far Beyond Its | Mar 28 01:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Roots http://t.co/NnBdhcZNd3 | Mar 28 01:47 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Docker at Age 2 Reaches Out Far Beyond Its Roots | Tux Machines | Mar 28 01:47 | |
| balrog | cubexyz: which courses? | Mar 28 01:49 |
| balrog | it seems their classes are heavily HTML5/JS focused | Mar 28 01:50 |
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| rg | I'm Stalin, 1984, lol | Mar 28 02:29 |
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| MinceR | Khaaaaaan! | Mar 28 03:09 |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 28 03:52 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 8.0 Jessie RC2 Installer Released | Mar 28 07:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 8.0 Jessie RC2 Installer Released | Tux Machines | Mar 28 07:23 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Best KDE Distros, GNOME Resurgence, Ubuntu | Mar 28 07:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | 15.04 Beta http://t.co/cTxEYzTRWP | Mar 28 07:23 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best KDE Distros, GNOME Resurgence, Ubuntu 15.04 Beta | Tux Machines | Mar 28 07:23 | |
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| DaemonFC | Hank Hill: "Detroit hasn't felt any real pride since George Bush went to Japan and vomited on their auto-executives." | Mar 28 09:45 |
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| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Mar 28 10:11 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 17:16:19 2012 | Mar 28 10:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The 9 best distros for KDE’s Plasma desktop | Mar 28 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/CHkAghkeki (www.itworld.com) | Mar 28 10:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | The 9 best distros for KDE’s Plasma desktop | ITworld | Mar 28 10:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 8.0 Jessie RC2 Installer Released | Mar 28 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XDXs4wqGvi (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 28 10:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Debian 8.0 Jessie RC2 Installer Released - Phoronix | Mar 28 10:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Released, Install/Update In | Mar 28 10:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Ubuntu/Linux Mint/Other Debian Based Distros | Mar 28 10:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Released, Install/Update In Ubuntu/Linux Mint/Other Debian Based Distros | Tux Machines | Mar 28 10:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Linux is expanding its reach, promising to | Mar 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | play a significant role in the Internet of | Mar 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Things." http://t.co/K1chDRwWer | Mar 28 10:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.eetimes.com) | Mar 28 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eetimes.com | Linux Seeks Security, Unity | EE Times | Mar 28 10:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @APIShift favourited '"Linux is expanding its reach, promising to play...' | Mar 28 10:35 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @MagicBlob favourited 'Linux Kernel 3.19.3 Released, Install/Update In Ubuntu/Linux Mint/Other...' | Mar 28 11:03 | |
| XRevan86 | > Install/Update In Ubuntu/Linux Mint/Other... | Mar 28 11:09 |
| XRevan86 | Do they finally have a PPA with latest Linux or is it just a .deb? | Mar 28 11:09 |
| XRevan86 | just a .deb | Mar 28 11:10 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Surprising Reasons Behind The GNOME | Mar 28 11:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Resurgence http://t.co/w3Nat5wTpc | Mar 28 11:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | 5 Surprising Reasons Behind The GNOME Resurgence | Mar 28 11:21 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What is keeping you from switching to Linux? | Mar 28 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wZQPn4ULsb (www.ghacks.net) | Mar 28 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | What is keeping you from switching to Linux? - gHacks Tech News | Mar 28 11:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Intel Pushes A Bunch Of Broadwell Code Into | Mar 28 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coreboot http://t.co/0d2dLkfUIh | Mar 28 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Intel Pushes A Bunch Of Broadwell Code Into Coreboot - Phoronix | Mar 28 11:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd, Nor | Mar 28 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXQt - Screenshot Tour http://t.co/di9JuVqD1g | Mar 28 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 28 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd, Nor LXQt - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia | Mar 28 11:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 5 Surprising Reasons Behind The GNOME | Mar 28 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Resurgence http://t.co/47HTCk3uJX | Mar 28 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 Surprising Reasons Behind The GNOME Resurgence | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines What is keeping you from switching to Linux? | Mar 28 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What is keeping you from switching to Linux? | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd, Nor | Mar 28 11:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LXQt - Screenshot Tour http://t.co/b8UHzBEJW0 | Mar 28 11:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using Systemd, Nor LXQt - Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines | Mar 28 11:22 | |
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| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/581755625677414400 | Mar 28 11:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Sanctions against #mozilla #firefox over an old view of one employee just opportunism http://t.co/mfh4H98PqL #boycott #okcupid | Mar 28 11:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> benjaminkerensa.com | Calling Out OkCupid – Benjamin Kerensa | Mar 28 11:39 | |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/581774858520027136 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/581775579248246784 https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/581776162680078336 | Mar 28 11:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Free Software’s Fifth Freedom http://t.co/3Z2Z1RsXF1 "by using proprietary code they’re limiting their options" | Mar 28 11:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mhall119.com | Free Software’s Fifth Freedom | Michael Hall | Mar 28 11:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Intel Pushes A Bunch Of #Broadwell Code Into #Coreboot http://t.co/V69kq3mZnK #linux #kernel | Mar 28 11:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Lubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Is Not Using #Systemd , Nor #LXQt - Screenshot Tour http://t.co/RcSCrTMezN | Mar 28 11:50 | |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/JesselynRadack/status/581612184133898240 | Mar 28 11:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JesselynRadack: #Drone pilots, sensor ops, imagery: how many of u were told by US gov recently that ur on an #ISIS hit list? Or was it only #whistleblowers? | Mar 28 11:53 | |
| roy_ | Operators, not pilots | Mar 28 11:53 |
| roy_ | https://twitter.com/Zen_Moments/status/581667416129814528 | Mar 28 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zen_Moments: Man stands in his own shadow and wonders why it's dark. ~ Zen Proverb http://t.co/mXoj1eFhYC | Mar 28 11:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zenquotes.org | Zen Proverbs - Zen Quotes | Mar 28 11:54 | |
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| __martin__ | now this is funny | Mar 28 11:56 |
| __martin__ | http://www.technologyreview.com/news/535956/microsofts-wristband-would-like-to-be-your-life-coach/ | Mar 28 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | Microsoft’s Activity Tracker Will Also Check Your Calendar | MIT Technology Review [ http://ur1.ca/k0fsw ] | Mar 28 11:56 | |
| __martin__ | xDDDD | Mar 28 11:56 |
| __martin__ | good afternoon btw, replaced fedora 22 with *buntu 15.04 | Mar 28 11:57 |
| __martin__ | oh, and that bloomberg's monsanto headline... | Mar 28 11:58 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/1GgnAFSfF6 | Mar 28 12:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 28 12:09 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/1CtlF6fhL0 | Mar 28 12:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Mar 28 12:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by | Mar 28 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Apple, European Commission Support for Free | Mar 28 12:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Software http://t.co/u31DINtYsa | Mar 28 12:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by Apple, European Commission Support for Free Software | Techrights | Mar 28 12:10 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by Apple,...' | Mar 28 12:11 | |
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| cubexyz | balrog, check this out: | Mar 28 12:45 |
| cubexyz | https://www.khanacademy.org/computer-programming/linux-tree/6713377214693376 | Mar 28 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.khanacademy.org | Linux Tree | Computer Science | Khan Academy [ http://ur1.ca/k0g0x ] | Mar 28 12:45 | |
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| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5836059 | Mar 28 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "for many years Microsoft strong-armed PC vendors..pressured them into loading Windows on netbooks instead of Linux" http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-mobile/mobile-linux/819400-are-cyanogen-and-microsoft-ready-to-stick-it-to-google/ | Mar 28 13:14 | |
| roy_ | "Wrong link. I like to read the right one. Thx. :)" | Mar 28 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linux.com | Are Cyanogen and Microsoft Ready to Stick it to Google? | Linux.com [ http://ur1.ca/k0g4v ] | Mar 28 13:14 | |
| roy_ | Looks like the right link to me | Mar 28 13:14 |
| roy_ | " | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | How do you convince people to leave Facebook and join free\libre services like Diaspora* and GNU Social(for twitter) ? What do you tell them ? | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | What's the benefit we get from Diaspora* that we cannot get from Facebook(except Freedom) ? | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | What are the practical benefits and reasons to leave Facebook Forever and join Diaspora* ? How secure we are in Diaspora* ? Is all of the data nicely encrypted in host servers ? | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | Can't Our data be removed or forced to remove by government ? How you see all these and how you convince other ? | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | " | Mar 28 13:15 |
| roy_ | It's not an easy argument to make to people without grasp of the surveillance state, so the ability to approach new joiners is limited to begin with. | Mar 28 13:15 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @LinuxSocist retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by Apple,...' | Mar 28 13:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/Q6fygh9Jo5 | Mar 28 13:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 28 13:33 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/yke9hi4Qd8 | Mar 28 13:33 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 28 13:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 28 13:33 | |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2015/03/27/mad-explains-the-indiana-state-seal | Mar 28 13:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | MAD Explains the Indiana State Seal | Mad Magazine [ http://ur1.ca/k0g9b ] | Mar 28 13:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Zentyal Server 4.1 Officially Released, Based | Mar 28 13:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS http://t.co/At3DsZCrFd | Mar 28 13:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Zentyal Server 4.1 Officially Released, Based on Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS - Softpedia | Mar 28 13:40 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @galoppini favourited 'Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by Apple,...' | Mar 28 13:40 | |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 28 13:52 |
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| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5835962 | Mar 28 13:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Xubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Released, Offers a Neat Xfce 4.12 Experience - Screenshot Tour http://news.softpedia.com/news/Xubuntu-15-04-Beta-2-Released-with-the-Xfce-4-12-Desktop-Environment-Screenshot-Tour-476886.shtml #xfce #gnu #linux | Mar 28 13:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> news.softpedia.com | Xubuntu 15.04 Beta 2 Released, Offers a Neat Xfce 4.12 Experience - Screenshot Tour - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/k0gc4 ] | Mar 28 13:55 | |
| roy_ | "beta mouse is is pretty cute, too " | Mar 28 13:55 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5827300 | Mar 28 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: We know where you’ve been: Ars acquires 4.6M license plate scans from the cops http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/we-know-where-youve-been-ars-acquires-4-6m-license-plate-scans-from-the-cops/ mass #surveillance by #police | Mar 28 13:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> arstechnica.com | We know where you’ve been: Ars acquires 4.6M license plate scans from the cops | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jz1r4 ] | Mar 28 13:57 | |
| roy_ | "every thing today is spying on us so creepy a good day of the pervert's just wait i wonder what 5 year's is going to look like ? we will be better of dead lol" | Mar 28 13:57 |
| roy_ | "lol :)" | Mar 28 13:57 |
| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5836526 | Mar 28 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Should #Bergdahl Suffer More Than Generals Who Did Far Worse? https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/27/why-should-bergdahl-suffer-more/ | Mar 28 13:57 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org | Why Should Bergdahl Suffer More Than Generals Who Did Far Worse? - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/k0gcq ] | Mar 28 13:57 | |
| roy_ | "Someone does not understand how armies work. In brief: cannon fodder is sent to kill and be killed, and if the cannon fodder has a brief spark of intelligence and decides that is not good and deserts then suddenly there would be no army anymore. Therefore desertors have to be punished, harshly so they prefer to die as heroes rather than as traitors." | Mar 28 13:57 |
| cubexyz | updated foss-matrix: | Mar 28 14:00 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/foss-matrix.txt | Mar 28 14:00 |
| cubexyz | microsoft surface deserves a "red alert" status | Mar 28 14:02 |
| MinceR | there should be a semicolon or period before "use PHP", imo | Mar 28 14:03 |
| cubexyz | done | Mar 28 14:04 |
| MinceR | also, i'd also mention uefi beside secureboot | Mar 28 14:04 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 28 14:04 |
| cubexyz | it's mainly just a reader's digest type document for quick reference, but sure, I'll keep adding to it | Mar 28 14:06 |
| cubexyz | another advantage of FOSS, it can always be resurrected | Mar 28 14:13 |
| cubexyz | we need a page for scientific FOSS programs, tons of interesting stuff there | Mar 28 14:21 |
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| cubexyz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_science_software | Mar 28 14:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Category:Free science software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/k0gms ] | Mar 28 14:47 | |
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| roy_ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5838571 | Mar 28 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #tsa uses pseudo- #science https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/27/revealed-tsas-closely-held-behavior-checklist-spot-terrorists/ | Mar 28 15:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> firstlook.org | Exclusive: TSA’s Secret Behavior Checklist to Spot Terrorists - The Intercept [ http://ur1.ca/k0gv5 ] | Mar 28 15:26 | |
| roy_ | "Security theater where the participants lose" | Mar 28 15:26 |
| roy_ | Lose their clothes | Mar 28 15:26 |
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| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 28 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | There's a guy in Huntington with the last name Hitler, who runs an insurance agency. | Mar 28 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | I think I'd be changing my name. | Mar 28 17:09 |
| DaemonFC | "I work for Hitler." Oh come on, we've all had a lousy boss, but he can't be that bad! :) | Mar 28 17:09 |
| cubexyz | hey did you ever get a Christmas card from Hitler? :) | Mar 28 17:15 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xiaomi’s Redmi 2 sets the bar high for budget | Mar 28 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Android phones http://t.co/hN075Af9KE | Mar 28 19:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (thenextweb.com) | Mar 28 19:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Xiaomi's Redmi 2 Sets the Bar High for Budget Android Phones | Mar 28 19:35 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Look at GNOME 3.16 http://t.co/G1xz8pTSOg | Mar 28 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Look at GNOME 3.16 | Tux Machines | Mar 28 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Speculations That Microsoft is About to Buy | Mar 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Cyanogen (or at Least Officially Partner) to | Mar 28 20:15 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Attack Google's Android http://t.co/V8KDnNsHYR | Mar 28 20:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Speculations That Microsoft is About to Buy Cyanogen (or at Least Officially Partner) to Attack Google’s Android/Linux, Replacing Everything With Microsoft | Techrights | Mar 28 20:15 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android customization – improve battery life, | Mar 28 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | identify battery killer apps | Mar 28 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/3PwBZ3IyJY | Mar 28 20:16 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.androidauthority.com) | Mar 28 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Android customization - improve battery life, identify battery killer apps - Android Authority | Mar 28 20:16 | |
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| Cirrus_Minor | one for tmux users https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBuKLTHw9Gg | Mar 28 20:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | tmux shell script - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/k0w52 ] | Mar 28 20:20 | |
| schestowitz | Cirrus_Minor: cheers | Mar 28 20:22 |
| Cirrus_Minor | yw | Mar 28 20:22 |
| schestowitz | I the DC we host on have some network capacity issue at the moment | Mar 28 20:23 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Prepare A New Set Of Pants, Outlast Releases | Mar 28 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | For Linux On Tuesday https://t.co/JTopnDzvBL | Mar 28 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) "Well there goes my | Mar 28 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tuesday night." | Mar 28 20:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Prepare A New Set Of Pants, Outlast Releases For Linux On Tuesday | GamingOnLinux | Mar 28 20:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kodi (XBMC Media Center) 14.2 Officially | Mar 28 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released, Kodi 15 “Isengard” Is On Its Way | Mar 28 20:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Kodi (XBMC Media Center) 14.2 Officially Released, Kodi 15 “Isengard” Is On Its Way - Softpedia | Mar 28 20:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4MLinux 12.0 Allinone Edition BETA released. | Mar 28 20:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/nld8funnCv (4mlinux.blogspot.co.uk) | Mar 28 20:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4mlinux.blogspot.co.uk | 4MLinux Blog: News | Mar 28 20:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 8 Jessie Installer Now Supports Running | Mar 28 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a 64-bit Linux Kernel on a 32-bit EFI | Mar 28 20:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian 8 Jessie Installer Now Supports Running a 64-bit Linux Kernel on a 32-bit EFI | Tux Machines | Mar 28 20:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kodi (XBMC Media Center) 14.2 Officially | Mar 28 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Released, Kodi 15 “Isengard” Is On Its Way | Mar 28 20:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kodi (XBMC Media Center) 14.2 Officially Released, Kodi 15 “Isengard” Is On Its Way | Tux Machines | Mar 28 20:43 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Head 2 Head: Android OS vs. Chrome OS | Mar 28 20:43 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/XMeSqTJw46 (www.maximumpc.com) | Mar 28 20:43 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maximumpc.com | Head 2 Head: Android OS vs. Chrome OS | Maximum PC | Mar 28 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | tessier: is the datacentre network ok? | Mar 28 21:03 |
| schestowitz | There is very high latency from here, maybe it's some routing along the way | Mar 28 21:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines First Look at GNOME 3.16 http://t.co/HaVv1d0CYb | Mar 28 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 28 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | First Look at GNOME 3.16 - Softpedia | Mar 28 21:26 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Debian 8 Jessie Installer Now Supports Running | Mar 28 21:26 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a 64-bit Linux Kernel on a 32-bit EFI | Mar 28 21:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Debian 8 Jessie Installer Now Supports Running a 64-bit Linux Kernel on a 32-bit EFI - Softpedia | Mar 28 21:26 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Head 2 Head: Android OS vs. Chrome OS | Mar 28 21:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Head 2 Head: Android OS vs. Chrome OS | Tux Machines | Mar 28 21:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/581928617380302848 | Mar 28 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @schestowitz @mosayk28 an example of how relevant art is to social consciousness, and hence also why artists are often suppressed | Mar 28 21:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/MarkDude/status/581930125823881216 | Mar 28 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@MarkDude: @schestowitz It appears the policy is to wait until China takes more of its neighbors islands/waters. A Navy base is worth more than this:( | Mar 28 21:28 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/amasonnm/status/581936424120791040 | Mar 28 21:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@amasonnm: @schestowitz bring it. I'm hoping we see all the data free before I shed my body. Read this guy he's not a fool | Mar 28 21:53 | |
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| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Mar 21 22:59 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Mar 21 22:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Kat Walsh joins FSF board of directors | Mar 21 23:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kat Walsh joins FSF board of directors | Tux Machines | Mar 21 23:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Neptune 4.3 Release is Based on Debian 7.8 | Mar 21 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Wheezy and Linux Kernel 3.16.3 - Screenshot | Mar 21 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Tour http://t.co/n5ljxnviXR | Mar 21 23:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Neptune 4.3 Release is Based on Debian 7.8 Wheezy and Linux Kernel 3.16.3 - Screenshot Tour | Tux Machines | Mar 21 23:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Control Center Updated to Support Firefox | Mar 21 23:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Nightly Builds in GNOME 3.14 | Mar 21 23:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Control Center Updated to Support Firefox Nightly Builds in GNOME 3.14 | Tux Machines | Mar 21 23:45 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Aungaungsittwe/status/579436002558644224 | Mar 22 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Aungaungsittwe: @schestowitz In some places, Pentagon fight against #terrorism but in some like in #Myanmar,it praise #terrorism as if #democracy reform,why | Mar 22 00:18 | |
| msb_ | http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/18/washingtons-war-on-russia/ | Mar 22 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.counterpunch.org | Washington’s War on Russia » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names [ http://ur1.ca/jygi3 ] | Mar 22 02:24 | |
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| MinceR | pity the galaxy s6* aren't even waterproof | Mar 22 02:53 |
| MinceR | also, they have no memory card slot or removable battery | Mar 22 02:53 |
| MinceR | all that for an impractical metal frame and counterproductive glass back | Mar 22 02:54 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.amazon.com/forum/politics/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1S3QSZRUL93V8&cdThread=Tx1BMCY4KYRRZF2 | Mar 22 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: The Indiana government wants to destroy a Native American burial site to construct a pointless reservoir. [ http://ur1.ca/jygp7 ] | Mar 22 03:07 | |
| DaemonFC | J. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says: | Mar 22 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans remind me of that pet shop in that episode of South Park. | Mar 22 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | "You built your pet shop on an Indian burial ground!?" | Mar 22 03:08 |
| DaemonFC | Shop Owner: "Yeah, but it's OK. I dug them up, urinated on them, and stuck them back in the ground upside down first." | Mar 22 03:08 |
| MinceR | http://qdb.us/301866 | Mar 22 03:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qdb.us | QDB: Quote #301866 | Mar 22 03:17 | |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 22 03:39 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Aungaungsittwe/status/579436002558644224 | Mar 22 08:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: good morning... | Mar 22 08:09 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't know if I'm going to upgrade my phone or not this year. | Mar 22 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | I might just switch to a cheaper plan and keep it for another year or two. It'll be paid for. | Mar 22 09:41 |
| cubexyz | UEFI and HDMI both have nasty stuff embedded inside them | Mar 22 10:11 |
| cubexyz | there's a general attack on computing now | Mar 22 10:11 |
| cubexyz | even TVO uses DRM, it's a bad joke | Mar 22 10:12 |
| cubexyz | educational shows with DRM | Mar 22 10:12 |
| cubexyz | and if you have an older HDTV which is not HDCP compliant you can't watch some shows at all | Mar 22 10:14 |
| cubexyz | Bell is using silverlight for online content... | Mar 22 10:14 |
| cubexyz | it's a frigging mess | Mar 22 10:14 |
| cubexyz | they're trying to turn everything into an unknowable black box | Mar 22 10:22 |
| cubexyz | it will probably be the case that we need to avoid devices with "designed for windows 8/10/etc" | Mar 22 10:28 |
| cubexyz | look for ones without the sticker | Mar 22 10:28 |
| cubexyz | in fact, I could argue that there is actually two different Microsoft Taxes now | Mar 22 10:29 |
| cubexyz | the preloaded windows and the firmware itself | Mar 22 10:29 |
| cubexyz | it's obvious from the leaked firmware code that it's all heavily microsoft-oriented | Mar 22 10:30 |
| cubexyz | looking back into the history of BIOS I've found that originally this was not the case | Mar 22 10:33 |
| cubexyz | but soon afterwards guess what happened? | Mar 22 10:35 |
| cubexyz | IBM used microsoft assembler | Mar 22 10:35 |
| cubexyz | originally it was Intel ASM86 for the IBM PC | Mar 22 10:35 |
| cubexyz | IBM PC AT BIOS was assembled by MASM 1.0 under DOS | Mar 22 10:36 |
| cubexyz | so even in the BIOS era Microsoft had a lot of influence, it's not something that just started recently | Mar 22 10:37 |
| cubexyz | to get away from Microsoft's influence you need to go outside of the x86 world | Mar 22 10:38 |
| cubexyz | ROM BASIC source code has never been published | Mar 22 10:40 |
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| cubexyz | if OEMs want the "made for windows" sticker ... the obvious next step for Microsoft is to pressure them to make it impossible to disable secure boot | Mar 22 10:44 |
| cubexyz | Fedora's using a microsoft key isn't a good answer at all | Mar 22 10:46 |
| cubexyz | an example of the recent situation: | Mar 22 10:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/secure-boot.txt | Mar 22 10:48 |
| cubexyz | I think Matthew Garrett has a method that will delete all existing keys and replace them with your own keys | Mar 22 10:58 |
| cubexyz | you could even create a system that will boot Fedora and not windows | Mar 22 10:58 |
| cubexyz | unfortunately there are Microsoft signed UEFI drivers for graphics cards | Mar 22 10:59 |
| schestowitz | NewsCorp http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/cias-post-torture-report-focus-on-digital-could-change-how-australia-fights-terrorism/story-fnpjxnlk-1227258069539 | Mar 22 11:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.news.com.au | CIA torture report: US spy agency to focus on digital [ http://ur1.ca/jyjla ] | Mar 22 11:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/digital_human/status/579608074731831297 | Mar 22 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@digital_human: @schestowitz @wikileaks maybe?..... :-} | Mar 22 11:44 | |
| schestowitz | I know about #germany involvement, not Sweden | Mar 22 11:44 |
| msb_ | Maybe one way to fight back against all these UEFI-type attacks is to choose a good state-of-the-art sweet-spot CPU, like the AMD FX-8350, and a good mobo company like ASUS, and choose a good Nvidia graphics card, and get these companies to make a non- cpu, mobo, graphics combination -- each about $150-200 -- so Linux users | Mar 22 12:02 |
| msb_ | Maybe one way to fight back against all these UEFI-type attacks is to choose a good state-of-the-art sweet-spot CPU, like the AMD FX-8350, and a good mobo company like ASUS, and choose a good Nvidia graphics card, and get these companies to make a non-DRM cpu, mobo, graphics combination -- each about $150-200 -- so Linux users users could build a good desktop computer. | Mar 22 12:03 |
| msb_ | It's easy enough to assemble a desktop. I always do it. And if each component costs $150-200, then the price/performance of the whole thing is optimized, and if one of the parts goes bad you can afford to buy a replacement for it. | Mar 22 12:04 |
| msb_ | Desktop mobos and cabinets use a standard form-factor -- I forget what it's called -- so it's easy to find a cabinet and power supply. | Mar 22 12:06 |
| cubexyz | there's only really three players in the UEFI game: | Mar 22 12:08 |
| msb_ | The point is, by settling on one good design for a general-purpose Linux computer (which of course would work for BSD too), we could make it worthwhile for these companies to manufacture what we need for it, regardless of Microsoft's attacks. | Mar 22 12:08 |
| cubexyz | Insyde, Phoenix and AMI | Mar 22 12:09 |
| msb_ | Or just get ASUS to make a mobo with a socketed ROM, so we can put CoreBoot in it. | Mar 22 12:09 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure what the deal is with UEFI and sockets | Mar 22 12:10 |
| msb_ | EPROM burners are cheap. LUGs could each have one and burn the EPROMs, | Mar 22 12:11 |
| cubexyz | most of the new stuff I fear is surface mounted | Mar 22 12:11 |
| cubexyz | it's not a problem for old stuff (yes back to old stuff again) | Mar 22 12:12 |
| msb_ | Get ASUS to make one good AMD mobo with a socket that just disregards UEFI. | Mar 22 12:12 |
| msb_ | These mobos would NOT be designed to run | Mar 22 12:12 |
| msb_ | These mobos would NOT be designed to run Windows. | Mar 22 12:12 |
| msb_ | So would not need UEFI at all. | Mar 22 12:13 |
| msb_ | ASUS would just have to make one good mobo for an AMD FX-8350 with an EPROM socket, and hundreds of thousands of Linux users would buy it. | Mar 22 12:15 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/digital_human/status/579616839585669120 | Mar 22 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@digital_human: @schestowitz @wikileaks well there is a lot going on in Sweden atm in relation to the US. | Mar 22 12:15 | |
| cubexyz | I wonder what will happen if you change your motherboard on Windows 10 | Mar 22 12:15 |
| cubexyz | your UEFI will change | Mar 22 12:16 |
| cubexyz | so do you have to reinstall the OS? | Mar 22 12:16 |
| msb_ | I think there must be lots of people who never want to run Windows at all. | Mar 22 12:16 |
| msb_ | I haven't used it for 20 years. | Mar 22 12:17 |
| cubexyz | there are some who will replace the mobo though | Mar 22 12:17 |
| cubexyz | right... just thinking about my customers | Mar 22 12:17 |
| msb_ | Get your customers to switch to Linux. | Mar 22 12:17 |
| cubexyz | I'd love to say all my customers are linux/bsd/plan 9 | Mar 22 12:17 |
| cubexyz | oh I try to do that :) | Mar 22 12:17 |
| cubexyz | some of them have chromebooks and Linux desktops | Mar 22 12:18 |
| cubexyz | msb_, I don't think you can avoid UEFI, all motherboards have that now | Mar 22 12:18 |
| cubexyz | to avoid UEFI and use old BIOS you need old hardware | Mar 22 12:19 |
| XRevan86 | (15:15:50) cubexyz: I wonder what will happen if you change your motherboard on Windows 10 | Mar 22 12:20 |
| XRevan86 | (15:16:05) cubexyz: your UEFI will change | Mar 22 12:20 |
| XRevan86 | What do you mean? | Mar 22 12:20 |
| msb_ | I'm saying get a lot of Linux users to promise ASUS that they will buy a non-UEFI mobo with an EPROM socket. Thus make it profitable for ASUS to make one. | Mar 22 12:20 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, will it still run the OS | Mar 22 12:20 |
| msb_ | Linux and BSD users | Mar 22 12:20 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: If Windows was OEM, it'll become unactivated because key is stored in ACPI. | Mar 22 12:20 |
| XRevan86 | (actually, it'll become unactivated anyway because changing motherboard triggers that but if it's not OEM Microsoft will allow to reactivate it) | Mar 22 12:21 |
| cubexyz | the graphics chipset could be different too | Mar 22 12:21 |
| cubexyz | so would it even run? | Mar 22 12:21 |
| XRevan86 | Graphics is not a problem. | Mar 22 12:22 |
| cubexyz | I guess it could go into safe mode or something | Mar 22 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yeah | Mar 22 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | Nothing UEFI-specific in all that. | Mar 22 12:23 |
| msb_ | People who just do general purpose computing do not need Windows. There's enough FOSS to give them everything they need. | Mar 22 12:24 |
| msb_ | Commercial users who are using windows-specific programs can try to get the vendors to make them run under WINE. | Mar 22 12:25 |
| cubexyz | PMON is still referred to as a "BIOS" | Mar 22 12:25 |
| cubexyz | so Lemote might not have UEFI | Mar 22 12:25 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: UEFI is a BIOS you know. | Mar 22 12:25 |
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| msb_ | Gamers can either stay with MS or pressure the vendors to make Linux or WINE versions. | Mar 22 12:26 |
| msb_ | IT'S TIME TO FIGHT FASCISM IN THE REALM OF PCS, AND THIS IS A WAY TO DO IT. | Mar 22 12:26 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, everyone says that UEFI is the replacment for BIOS | Mar 22 12:26 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's a marketing way of saying things. | Mar 22 12:26 |
| cubexyz | e.g. it doesn't have the old limits of 16-bit mode and 1 megabyte of addressable memory | Mar 22 12:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yes, because UEFI suggest an other way for booting. | Mar 22 12:28 |
| XRevan86 | as a replacement for MBR ("Legacy BIOS") | Mar 22 12:28 |
| msb_ | If ASUS won't make one socketed non-UEFI mobo because they don't want to piss off microsoft, they could secretly license the requisite mobo design to some PCB fab company and they could make and sell it. | Mar 22 12:28 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Still, every known BIOS for know support booting via MBR. | Mar 22 12:29 |
| XRevan86 | for now* | Mar 22 12:29 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what the folks in the local computer stores would say if I asked for a mobo with socketed UEFI | Mar 22 12:30 |
| cubexyz | I'd probably get a blank stare | Mar 22 12:30 |
| cubexyz | I think there are all surface mount nowadays | Mar 22 12:30 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I don't know what socketed BIOS is, too %). | Mar 22 12:30 |
| cubexyz | eh? It's pin in hole package you can remove | Mar 22 12:31 |
| cubexyz | like a DIP | Mar 22 12:31 |
| cubexyz | dual in-line package | Mar 22 12:31 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What's the point for modern BIOS's? | Mar 22 12:32 |
| XRevan86 | which are reprogrammable | Mar 22 12:32 |
| msb_ | It's a ZIF socket like for the CPU, but smaller. | Mar 22 12:32 |
| cubexyz | programmable under Plan 9? programmable under any OS? | Mar 22 12:32 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: By the way, have you heard that UEFI is going to standardize reprogramming of BIOS's? | Mar 22 12:33 |
| cubexyz | of course it's not, because you have no utility | Mar 22 12:33 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: with modern Linux, the current BIOSes don't impose any limits on disk or memory size, right? Because Linux doesn't even use the BIOS after bootup. | Mar 22 12:34 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Um, what? | Mar 22 12:34 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, how is it going to do that without an external programmer? | Mar 22 12:35 |
| cubexyz | standardize unde windows maybe | Mar 22 12:35 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: In a way it works now. | Mar 22 12:35 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That means one can write an utility all by himself. | Mar 22 12:36 |
| cubexyz | ok, that's a fair point | Mar 22 12:36 |
| cubexyz | but more difficult surely | Mar 22 12:36 |
| msb_ | I'm asking whether current BIOS will be good for bigger disks and RAM sizes in the foreseeable future for Linux. | Mar 22 12:36 |
| cubexyz | obviously if I can remove the chip (whatever it is) I save myself from a bricked motherboard if something goes wrong or I'm in the middle of development | Mar 22 12:37 |
| msb_ | It's a very basic question. | Mar 22 12:37 |
| cubexyz | msb_, there's a limit, I forget exactly what it is | Mar 22 12:37 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I'm trying to understand how can it be not %). | Mar 22 12:37 |
| cubexyz | my first coreboot project I bricked the board several times | Mar 22 12:38 |
| cubexyz | so I removed the flash rom and reprogrammed it again until I got it working | Mar 22 12:39 |
| msb_ | On Linux bootup, all the BIOS has to access is the MBR on one disk, right? So that disk could be 1000TB and it could still do it. | Mar 22 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's with MBR, right. | Mar 22 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Oh, I see what limitation you're talking about. | Mar 22 12:40 |
| XRevan86 | it's a limitation not in BIOS but in a MBR partition table itself | Mar 22 12:40 |
| msb_ | So we don't even need a BIOS socket. We just need ASUS to keep making an AMD-CPU mobo with the current BIOS. | Mar 22 12:41 |
| cubexyz | I'd still rather have the source code for my firmware | Mar 22 12:41 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: So you'll get no limitation neither with UEFI bootup (because it recommends GPT by default) nor with MBR bootup with GPT partition table | Mar 22 12:41 |
| msb_ | But Linux -- grub or whatever -- can write whatever we want in the MBR. | Mar 22 12:41 |
| msb_ | So GPT can handle any huge disks or RAM size we will be using in the foreseeable future -- before the Singularity? | Mar 22 12:44 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's not about handling. | Mar 22 12:44 |
| msb_ | what then? | Mar 22 12:44 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: MBR partition table can't bear long size numbers | Mar 22 12:45 |
| XRevan86 | it's too small and unextendable | Mar 22 12:45 |
| msb_ | So isn't there a substitute for MBR used by Linux for big disks? | Mar 22 12:45 |
| XRevan86 | > On GPT for disks with 512-byte sectors, maximum size is 9.4 ZB | Mar 22 12:45 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's GPT. | Mar 22 12:45 |
| cubexyz | it's probably some silly coding limitation | Mar 22 12:46 |
| XRevan86 | GRUB can work with GPT without UEFI on MBR bootup. | Mar 22 12:46 |
| cubexyz | there's no reason why things couldn't be modded to work with bigger drives | Mar 22 12:46 |
| msb_ | OK, I'm happy with 9.4ZB. That's probably enough for me to upload into. | Mar 22 12:46 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Not with MBR for sure. | Mar 22 12:48 |
| XRevan86 | unless you use some hack with partitioning | Mar 22 12:48 |
| XRevan86 | but you can aswell use GPT :) | Mar 22 12:48 |
| cubexyz | right, that's probably why no one bothered (that I know of) | Mar 22 12:48 |
| msb_ | OK, now please summarize for me, because I don't know this stuff. Linux can now write a GPT on a huge disk, and plenty of mobos now will use it. Is that right? | Mar 22 12:49 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: What's a mobo? | Mar 22 12:49 |
| msb_ | motherboard | Mar 22 12:50 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I think I need a more abstract way of telling things :) | Mar 22 12:50 |
| msb_ | Esperanto? | Mar 22 12:51 |
| XRevan86 | MBR is an old standard for storing boot information including partition table and execution code (bootloader). | Mar 22 12:51 |
| msb_ | I understand that. | Mar 22 12:52 |
| XRevan86 | it has a size of 512 bytes where first 446 are the bootloader | Mar 22 12:52 |
| msb_ | And GPT is a new standard that works for much bigger disks, right? | Mar 22 12:52 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, point is that partition table in MBR has a limitation of size in 2 TiB | Mar 22 12:52 |
| XRevan86 | GPT is a partition table that has no such limitation | Mar 22 12:53 |
| cubexyz | btw the 512 byte boot loader predates microsoft | Mar 22 12:53 |
| msb_ | But LInux can write a GPT onto a drive, yes? | Mar 22 12:53 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: sure | Mar 22 12:53 |
| XRevan86 | UEFI standard prescibes to use GPT. | Mar 22 12:53 |
| XRevan86 | Without UEFI with MBR bootloading GRUB can work with GPT | Mar 22 12:54 |
| XRevan86 | and it can't load Windows because Windows sucks so very much it can't abstract GPT support code from UEFI support code. | Mar 22 12:54 |
| cubexyz | in the old days you had uboot.s and assembled that to generate the 512 byte boot loader | Mar 22 12:55 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: 446 byte :) | Mar 22 12:55 |
| cubexyz | ok, but the file itself is 512 bytes | Mar 22 12:56 |
| cubexyz | I know because I assembled it | Mar 22 12:56 |
| msb_ | So as long as ASUS continues to make one good mobo for AMD CPUs (fuck Intel) that can take 32GB or so of DDR3 RAM, and has a UEFI/BIOS/whatever-you-call it that can access a GPT, then Linux users are OK. Is that right? | Mar 22 12:56 |
| cubexyz | the partition table is 64 bytes yes | Mar 22 12:56 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Maybe it also has the partition table for some reason? | Mar 22 12:57 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, it does yes | Mar 22 12:57 |
| XRevan86 | don't see a reason to put it into a file for flashing | Mar 22 12:57 |
| XRevan86 | dd doesn't care whether to copy 446 or 512 bytes. | Mar 22 12:57 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Linux users are okay in either way :). | Mar 22 12:58 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: either? | Mar 22 12:58 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Linux user can use GPT everywhere. | Mar 22 12:58 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, all the PDP-11 documents say to load 512 bytes into locations 0-776 then start program execution at 0 | Mar 22 12:59 |
| cubexyz | I think the only different way is paper tape | Mar 22 13:00 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Maybe they also hack the partition table and put it into that file. | Mar 22 13:00 |
| XRevan86 | or not file | Mar 22 13:00 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Do you actually _have_ a PDP-11, not just some simulator or FPGA version? | Mar 22 13:00 |
| cubexyz | it is a file... the assembled uboot.s | Mar 22 13:00 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Because I think you should get one. | Mar 22 13:01 |
| msb_ | It's your nirvana. | Mar 22 13:01 |
| msb_ | Get one with VM so it will run Linux. | Mar 22 13:01 |
| XRevan86 | My point is that when you already have a MBR record, you don't have to touch last bytes just to alter first 446 | Mar 22 13:02 |
| msb_ | It can be argued that the PDP-11 instruction set is the best ever designed, right? | Mar 22 13:03 |
| cubexyz | msb_, I think it's important that people know there's a history of computers that has nothing to do with microsoft | Mar 22 13:04 |
| msb_ | And I'll bet modern Linux is so modular that you could make the kernel run on a PDP-11. | Mar 22 13:04 |
| cubexyz | real PDP-11's are hard to come by now | Mar 22 13:04 |
| msb_ | You can't get an old 11/70 for $5K or so? | Mar 22 13:04 |
| cubexyz | well for 5 grand yes, maybe $2K would be enough | Mar 22 13:05 |
| msb_ | I knew a guy who had a DG Eclipse in his garage. | Mar 22 13:05 |
| cubexyz | but it would be power hungry and the mag core could be troublesome, so I run simh instead | Mar 22 13:05 |
| msb_ | Well, shit, snap it up, along with whatever spares you can find. | Mar 22 13:05 |
| cubexyz | I was thinking microvax would be better, rather than an old PDP-11 | Mar 22 13:06 |
| cubexyz | we'll see | Mar 22 13:06 |
| msb_ | 11/70s still used core mem? | Mar 22 13:06 |
| cubexyz | early ones did | Mar 22 13:06 |
| cubexyz | later ones probably not | Mar 22 13:06 |
| cubexyz | there were several versions | Mar 22 13:06 |
| cubexyz | SSI CPU would be interesting to have | Mar 22 13:07 |
| msb_ | Anyhow, it's probably just the driver chips that go out on those, and they're easy to replace. I've done it. | Mar 22 13:07 |
| cubexyz | microvax I could get for $300 maybe | Mar 22 13:07 |
| msb_ | 12AX7 CPU even more interesting. | Mar 22 13:07 |
| msb_ | How fast are those? | Mar 22 13:08 |
| cubexyz | my timing was bad, I didn't appreciate the old tech when it was cheap | Mar 22 13:08 |
| msb_ | Is a microvax a single-chip cpu? | Mar 22 13:09 |
| cubexyz | depends on the model | Mar 22 13:09 |
| cubexyz | MicroVAX 3100 was KA41-A running at 11 mhz | Mar 22 13:09 |
| msb_ | So about 1/200th the speed of a modern cpu? | Mar 22 13:10 |
| msb_ | or less | Mar 22 13:10 |
| cubexyz | it's still VLSI | Mar 22 13:10 |
| msb_ | in mips or whatever | Mar 22 13:10 |
| cubexyz | so microprocessor | Mar 22 13:10 |
| cubexyz | SCSI 50 pin drives | Mar 22 13:12 |
| cubexyz | not that hard get those | Mar 22 13:12 |
| msb_ | but if it only does about one instruction per clock cycle, and has an 11MHz clock, while current cpus have an 8800 MHz clock (I'm guessing here) then a uvax is 1/800 of thespeed of a current cpu. | Mar 22 13:12 |
| msb_ | It could take 10 minutes for firefox to run up a page. | Mar 22 13:13 |
| cubexyz | well I figure it would be roughly similar to a 286 running Xenix | Mar 22 13:14 |
| cubexyz | maybe a bit slower | Mar 22 13:14 |
| cubexyz | well, not enough memory to run firefox, I wouldn't even consider it :) | Mar 22 13:14 |
| msb_ | A lot of progress has been made since then. | Mar 22 13:15 |
| cubexyz | maybe some text based browser | Mar 22 13:15 |
| cubexyz | I run emulated 2.11BSD which isn't bad, but no web browser | Mar 22 13:15 |
| cubexyz | it has tcp/ip with ftp, ntp, ping, telnet, and sendmail | Mar 22 13:17 |
| msb_ | Please, everybody, watch Transcendent Man (2009) and then Transcendence (2014). They will change your life! | Mar 22 13:17 |
| msb_ | Both can be found if you look for them. | Mar 22 13:18 |
| msb_ | We are Linux users. We are already outlaws! | Mar 22 13:19 |
| cubexyz | probably DEC Alpha would be closer to a modern CPU | Mar 22 13:20 |
| cubexyz | Alpha got phased out when Compaq bought DEC in 1998 | Mar 22 13:21 |
| cubexyz | so welcome to x86-only land | Mar 22 13:21 |
| msb_ | Antitrust (2001) is also a must-see. It is also available. Maybe it will convince some of your customers to switch from windows to Linux. | Mar 22 13:25 |
| cubexyz | they have hung around me long enough to know the score :) | Mar 22 13:26 |
| cubexyz | but I'll mention the movie to them | Mar 22 13:26 |
| cubexyz | as I said, they have started buying chromebooks (and a few have Fedora boxes) so it's a start | Mar 22 13:26 |
| cubexyz | I also sold some Dell laptops with Fedora and Windows | Mar 22 13:27 |
| cubexyz | it's interesting the historical prespective of different people | Mar 22 13:28 |
| cubexyz | the Sun guys used to think DEC was the "bad guy" | Mar 22 13:28 |
| msb_ | I think we should try to stay away from Fedora. systemd is another sabotage job against Linux. | Mar 22 13:28 |
| cubexyz | msb_, this was pre-systemd era | Mar 22 13:29 |
| msb_ | right | Mar 22 13:29 |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't suggest it now | Mar 22 13:29 |
| msb_ | No KDE4/5/Plasma either. That was designed to kill multiple named virtual desktops, one of the most important features of Linux. | Mar 22 13:30 |
| msb_ | Greatly improves mind extension via the computer. | Mar 22 13:31 |
| msb_ | Now use Trinity DE -- https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ | Mar 22 13:32 |
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| msb_ | XRevan86: How would I get 20 different _named_ "activities" (spit!) with a switcher applet in the same position in each one, and the names visible in the switcher buttons? Like I have in KDE3/Trinity. Because the KDE4 experts I talked to said they don't use lots of named desktops. | Mar 22 13:38 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: No idea, I don't have KDE around. | Mar 22 13:39 |
| msb_ | The german guy in charge of the KDE4 window manager wrote 4 or 5 web articles telling the Trinity people to go kill themselves (or at least the project). KDE4 is EVIL. | Mar 22 13:40 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Right, you can't. Because the desktop names are overwritten with garbage in the switcher applet buttons. | Mar 22 13:41 |
| msb_ | KDE4 and systemd are both designed to sabotage Linux. | Mar 22 13:41 |
| msb_ | I don't need a GD "dashboard" or different (or any) wallpapers. | Mar 22 13:42 |
| msb_ | And any "widgets" I want (whatever they mean by that) can be called via icons in a panel or with a script. | Mar 22 13:43 |
| msb_ | Ten years ago when I asked (intelligent) Linux users what feature was most important to them, they said multiple desktops in KDE3. | Mar 22 13:45 |
| msb_ | So KDE4 killed that. | Mar 22 13:46 |
| msb_ | Trinity DE is under active maintenance/development, is available for major distros, and the source is easily accessible. | Mar 22 13:49 |
| msb_ | If you have to load a few extra libraries for it, well, suck it! | Mar 22 13:49 |
| msb_ | That's why Linux is flexible. | Mar 22 13:49 |
| msb_ | So you can get the functionality you want. | Mar 22 13:50 |
| msb_ | And Trinity will never require systemd. | Mar 22 13:51 |
| msb_ | Alright, I will stop now and take a pill. | Mar 22 13:52 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I think I need to check Plasma 5 out :). | Mar 22 13:53 |
| msb_ | Be sure to run it with systemd! | Mar 22 13:54 |
| msb_ | and pulseaudio | Mar 22 13:54 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I have both. | Mar 22 13:54 |
| XRevan86 | And copy of my current environment is booted up. | Mar 22 13:56 |
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| msb_ | Don't miss this article: http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/18/washingtons-war-on-russia/ | Mar 22 13:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.counterpunch.org | Washington’s War on Russia » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names [ http://ur1.ca/jygi3 ] | Mar 22 13:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Netscape: the web browser that came back to | Mar 22 13:57 |
| TweetTuxMachines | haunt Microsoft http://t.co/DFZgFbxrKI | Mar 22 13:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netscape: the web browser that came back to haunt Microsoft | Tux Machines | Mar 22 13:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/A6MiwIIMlm | Mar 22 13:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 22 13:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/cYhqgubkFm | Mar 22 13:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 22 13:57 | |
| cubexyz | msb_, in the 'old' days there was this: | Mar 22 14:31 |
| cubexyz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Mode | Mar 22 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | System Management Mode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jykrn ] | Mar 22 14:31 | |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Can you give a screenshot of your KDE? :) | Mar 22 14:32 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Interesting | Mar 22 14:34 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: what program records a whole screen? | Mar 22 14:41 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: scrot, ksnapshot, xfce4-screenshooter, mate-screenshoot… | Mar 22 14:42 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-plus-mwm-combo-png | Mar 22 14:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-plus-mwm-combo-png ) | Mar 22 14:42 | |
| cubexyz | there's one of mine :) | Mar 22 14:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: 404 :) | Mar 22 14:44 |
| cubexyz | I never used the system management daughter card | Mar 22 14:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-plus-mwm-combo.png | Mar 22 14:45 |
| cubexyz | typo | Mar 22 14:45 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, msb_ has special KDE with many desktops so I want to look at it | Mar 22 14:45 |
| XRevan86 | and mimic it if possible using modern Plasma | Mar 22 14:46 |
| cubexyz | with the SMDC card you can monitor your server even if the OS fails | Mar 22 14:49 |
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| msb_ | XRevan86: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/screenshot2.png | Mar 22 14:55 |
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| cubexyz | cool | Mar 22 14:57 |
| cubexyz | let's see a screenshot from XRevan86 | Mar 22 14:57 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/icewm-with-konsole.png | Mar 22 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/85zxYWtDL0 | Mar 22 14:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Mar 22 14:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/jqs85RJb60 | Mar 22 14:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 22 14:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 22/3/2015: GNOME 3.16 Shaping Up, | Mar 22 14:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LibrePlanet 2015 http://t.co/0N59TTxnp2 | Mar 22 14:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 22/3/2015: GNOME 3.16 Shaping Up, LibrePlanet 2015 | Techrights | Mar 22 14:59 | |
| msb_ | It's plain old KDE3. Bottom panel (same in all desktops) has main menu and a few app icons, desktop switcher, notifiers, clockcal. Top panel is taskbar. Simple | Mar 22 15:00 |
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| msb_ | I have 139 user processes plus 24 instances of konsole (which all run out of a single process). | Mar 22 15:08 |
| msb_ | cpu usage is about 12%, mostly Firefox, which has 5 windows and hundreds of tabs | Mar 22 15:10 |
| msb_ | By leaving several konsole/mc instances running in each desktop, I have instant access to various (you should excuse the expression) activities within each desktop. All these use little or no cpu when I'm not using them. | Mar 22 15:13 |
| msb_ | For example, in the TVRec(ording) desktop I have the recorder (mencoder), the (ongoing instant) playback (mplayer), and an instance of top so I can get the PIDs of these and set their priorities high (since my old two-core cpu gets 90% used making xvids). | Mar 22 15:17 |
| msb_ | That's the desktop shown. | Mar 22 15:17 |
| msb_ | The TV recording and immediate playback are done with scripts that call mencoder and mplayer. I also have a direct tvview script that doesn't record. These all have interlocks to pass the name of the recorded file and avoid stepping on each other. | Mar 22 15:21 |
| msb_ | The TV card was about $25, 50% off at Fry's. 8^) | Mar 22 15:23 |
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| XRevan86 | Plasma 5 is horrible | Mar 22 15:24 |
| msb_ | Big surprise. | Mar 22 15:24 |
| XRevan86 | http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/15/0322/h_1427037930_5957915_15b7e415c6.png | Mar 22 15:25 |
| msb_ | See those rectangles in the switcher button for the Mail desktop? (Hey, you stole my desktop names!) Those rectangles are stupid window outlines, and once you have a few of them the desktop names in the buttons become unreadable. | Mar 22 15:28 |
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| cubexyz | haha | Mar 22 15:28 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Nope, still readable. And they are almost hidden when desktop is changed. | Mar 22 15:30 |
| msb_ | I hacked the switcher code to remove the rectangles, but the KDE4 devs weren't interested. They said they didn't use desktops at all, just "activities" (pfui!). | Mar 22 15:30 |
| cubexyz | here's a classy pre-microsoft picture: | Mar 22 15:31 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ibm-1401.jpg | Mar 22 15:31 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Your picture was taken with only two windows in one desktop. | Mar 22 15:31 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I know, I've checked afterwards | Mar 22 15:31 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I'll make another screenshot after I'd figure out how to remove cashews | Mar 22 15:32 |
| msb_ | Yeah, WTF are those for anyhow? | Mar 22 15:32 |
| cubexyz | snacks? | Mar 22 15:32 |
| cubexyz | :) | Mar 22 15:33 |
| msb_ | IBM-1401 -- 4 huge magtapes, a card reader and a lineprinter! | Mar 22 15:36 |
| cubexyz | yeah! | Mar 22 15:36 |
| cubexyz | and a huge console | Mar 22 15:37 |
| msb_ | This one stored everything in mercury delaylines in hyperspace: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/pc_of_future.jpg | Mar 22 15:37 |
| msb_ | And some storage tubes. | Mar 22 15:37 |
| cubexyz | mine pic is real :) | Mar 22 15:37 |
| cubexyz | my | Mar 22 15:37 |
| msb_ | And an IBM babe in a matching blue dress! | Mar 22 15:38 |
| cubexyz | with teletype interface and Fortran :) | Mar 22 15:38 |
| cubexyz | yeah they really went with lots of blue there | Mar 22 15:39 |
| cubexyz | I bet that old fart knows machine language :) | Mar 22 15:40 |
| XRevan86 | eh, scriptengines are not available in openSUSE for Plasma5 | Mar 22 15:40 |
| XRevan86 | can't tell if cashews are removable with old good extension or not | Mar 22 15:40 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Fortran at the very least! | Mar 22 15:41 |
| msb_ | KDE4 cashews are added crap just for the sake of adding crap. They do that a lot. | Mar 22 15:43 |
| XRevan86 | http://cdn.img42.com/e68c21072714a23731c73c07f1a7014d.png | Mar 22 15:44 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's what it's like to have windows on other desktops. | Mar 22 15:44 |
| msb_ | There was s--t in there I was never able to figure out, and that was only in version 4.6 | Mar 22 15:44 |
| msb_ | Try having 5 windows of various sizes in most of the desktops. | Mar 22 15:45 |
| msb_ | Since switching desktops is one of the most frequent things I do, I don't like having to deal with pointless eyestrain when I do it. | Mar 22 15:46 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: And make sure they overlap a lot. | Mar 22 15:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #Canonical Goes to Bed With Company That Sues | Mar 22 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Using Software Patents and Copyrights | Mar 22 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Through #SCO) | Mar 22 15:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Eozy7Dit94 (techrights.org) #swpats | Mar 22 15:48 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @sizeof favourited '#Canonical Goes to Bed With Company That Sues...' | Mar 22 15:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Goes to Bed With Company That Sues Linux Using Software Patents and Copyrights (Through SCO) | Techrights | Mar 22 15:48 | |
| msb_ | Doesn't Ubuntu have a store where they _sell_ apps? | Mar 22 15:50 |
| msb_ | KDE4 has some kind of icon in the panel that looks like a smashed up car, and when you click it most of the windows disappear. ?? Maybe it's actually a cashew covered in mold. | Mar 22 15:54 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I can't bear it anymore. | Mar 22 15:55 |
| msb_ | It's EVIL I tell you! | Mar 22 15:55 |
| msb_ | So why did every distro immediately adopt KDE4 and dump KDE3? (Except SuSE, which still keeps KDE3, at least it did in version 3.1.) | Mar 22 15:58 |
| msb_ | Just like every distro adopted systemd and dumped sysVinit. Did somebody threaten their families? | Mar 22 15:59 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: This is why I assign ZERO weight to the newer-is-better criterion. | Mar 22 16:01 |
| msb_ | It allows any saboteur to poetter around with your system. | Mar 22 16:01 |
| cubexyz | my point exactly | Mar 22 16:03 |
| cubexyz | newer is better... sometimes | Mar 22 16:04 |
| cubexyz | I remember one old guy going on and on about 1940s cars and how 1950s cars were rubbish | Mar 22 16:05 |
| msb_ | There are tens of thousands of people inventing useless new crap simply to justify their salaries. | Mar 22 16:05 |
| cubexyz | that's planned obsolescence | Mar 22 16:06 |
| cubexyz | it's been around quite a long time, but it's worse now | Mar 22 16:06 |
| msb_ | immediate obsolescence | Mar 22 16:06 |
| cubexyz | I still have my 1997 laserjet | Mar 22 16:07 |
| cubexyz | works good | Mar 22 16:07 |
| msb_ | it's crapitalism | Mar 22 16:07 |
| cubexyz | some of my DEC crazy associates have decwriters | Mar 22 16:08 |
| cubexyz | then I hear about the opposite, one shoe repair guy still uses 1920s technology | Mar 22 16:08 |
| cubexyz | no reason you have to use latest and greatest | Mar 22 16:09 |
| msb_ | The steam-powered shoe buffers were the best! | Mar 22 16:10 |
| cubexyz | a shoe iron doesn't really wear out | Mar 22 16:11 |
| msb_ | I watched a very weird anime' yesterday called Steamboy. All weird steam technology. | Mar 22 16:11 |
| cubexyz | I think there's a novel about Babbage era technology | Mar 22 16:12 |
| cubexyz | a sort of what if the Babbage computer was successful sort of thing | Mar 22 16:13 |
| msb_ | For a while DEC displays were round. I liked that. | Mar 22 16:13 |
| cubexyz | it's the natural form factor for early CRTs | Mar 22 16:15 |
| cubexyz | conical CRT is easier to make | Mar 22 16:16 |
| msb_ | Apparently photographers in 1860 didn't tell people to smile. Or maybe he died in 1859. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage | Mar 22 16:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Charles Babbage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jylk5 ] | Mar 22 16:17 | |
| msb_ | cubexyz: right -- convex surfaces withstand the pressure better | Mar 22 16:17 |
| cubexyz | I think that was due to the long exposure time of cameras of that era, but yeah Babbage looks a bit grumpy in that pic | Mar 22 16:18 |
| cubexyz | I think I remember seeing some 1950s or older ... it looked like the monitor was circular but cut off at the top and bottom | Mar 22 16:20 |
| cubexyz | 1950s tv sets | Mar 22 16:21 |
| cubexyz | not really cut off but hidden by the bezel | Mar 22 16:21 |
| msb_ | Lots of Babbage-oriented fiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_Engine#In_popular_culture | Mar 22 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Analytical Engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jylo4 ] | Mar 22 16:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/579681394391121920 | Mar 22 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz With BRICS it might just happen. | Mar 22 16:33 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: What an idiot! We now know that Venezuela is the real menace to the US! | Mar 22 16:45 |
| msb_ | They are secretly planning to all fart in our general direction! | Mar 22 16:46 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 22 17:33 |
| MinceR | it's possible to be told to smile and yet not smile | Mar 22 17:34 |
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| cubexyz | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/The.Pirate.Bay.Cartoon-small.png | Mar 22 17:45 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/9GUTpN5 | Mar 22 17:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | IKEA named their new pillow cover Putin. - Imgur | Mar 22 17:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plague Inc: Evolved Game Is Now For Linux | Mar 22 17:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plague Inc: Evolved Game Is Now For Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 22 17:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sébastien Jodogne, ReGlue are Free Software | Mar 22 17:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Award winners http://t.co/EYJQVMDSxO | Mar 22 17:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sébastien Jodogne, ReGlue are Free Software Award winners | Tux Machines | Mar 22 17:56 | |
| MinceR | (probably fake though) | Mar 22 17:56 |
| cubexyz | don't forget you can buy The Evil Within at the microsoft store | Mar 22 17:58 |
| cubexyz | just look at this highly appealing ad: | Mar 22 18:00 |
| cubexyz | http://www.xbox.com/en-CA/games/evil-within/buy-now/xbox-360 | Mar 22 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xbox.com | The Evil Within for Xbox | Xbox Canada [ http://ur1.ca/jyme5 ] | Mar 22 18:00 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: which days do you want logs for? | Mar 22 18:00 |
| msb_ | If you have an Xbox you already have the Evil Within. | Mar 22 18:10 |
| cubexyz | http://trendingcurrentevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Bill-Gates-Count-to-10-Windows-Meme.jpg | Mar 22 18:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up The Raspberry PI 2 | Mar 22 18:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/AHXUE408qa | Mar 22 18:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.everydaylinuxuser.com) | Mar 22 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Setting Up The Raspberry PI 2 « Everyday Linux User | Mar 22 18:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME’s Mutter Can Now Scale Window Decorations | Mar 22 18:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on HiDPI Displays | Mar 22 18:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7NxPn2sAWR (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 22 18:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME’s Mutter Can Now Scale Window Decorations on HiDPI Displays - Softpedia | Mar 22 18:41 | |
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| amarsh04 | msb_ I have steamboy but haven't watched it yet | Mar 22 19:11 |
| msb_ | amarsh04: It's visually clever. Plotwise confused. | Mar 22 19:12 |
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| msb_ | Not as good as Ghost in the Shell or Cowboy Bebop | Mar 22 19:14 |
| amarsh04 | ok... I've seen some of each of those | Mar 22 19:15 |
| amarsh04 | but I like the music more than the anime - one can enjoy it while doing other things | Mar 22 19:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StephDAVOS favourited 'Setting Up The Raspberry PI 2 ...' | Mar 22 19:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up The Raspberry PI 2 | Mar 22 19:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Setting Up The Raspberry PI 2 | Tux Machines | Mar 22 19:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME’s Mutter Can Now Scale Window Decorations | Mar 22 19:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on HiDPI Displays http://t.co/ffVtzQVylN | Mar 22 19:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME’s Mutter Can Now Scale Window Decorations on HiDPI Displays | Tux Machines | Mar 22 19:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/gG3OonwOqE | Mar 22 19:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 22 19:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pinguy OS 14.04.2 Point Release | Mar 22 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gg27bPAayz (pinguyos.com) | Mar 22 19:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pinguyos.com | Pinguy OS 14.04.2 Point Release - Pinguy OS | Mar 22 19:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro KDE 0.9.0-pre5 edition released | Mar 22 19:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tXLknyf82L (manjaro.github.io) | Mar 22 19:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro KDE 0.9.0-pre5 edition released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Mar 22 19:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition FINAL released. | Mar 22 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/nld8funnCv (4mlinux.blogspot.co.uk) | Mar 22 20:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4mlinux.blogspot.co.uk | 4MLinux Blog: News | Mar 22 20:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines YUMI-2.0.1.6 released http://t.co/sH6ieR0CnV | Mar 22 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.itrunsonlinux.com) "can be used to create | Mar 22 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a Multiboot USB Flash Drive containing multiple | Mar 22 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itrunsonlinux.com | YUMI-2.0.1.6 released | Mar 22 20:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | operating systems" | Mar 22 20:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "AMD Is Hiring Two More Open-Source Linux GPU | Mar 22 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver Developers" http://t.co/7vAvahoorw | Mar 22 20:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 22 20:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMD Is Hiring Two More Open-Source Linux GPU Driver Developers - Phoronix | Mar 22 20:05 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SecoreBoot-Windows-10 | Mar 22 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | New SecureBoot Concerns Arise With Windows 10 - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/jyn8x ] | Mar 22 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 22 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Most Linux distributions out there are now SecureBoot-supported, but there's still fears over Microsoft some day revoking the Linux key or otherwise locking out users from their own operating system. Those running custom kernels and other environments that aren't SecureBoot signed could also be a problem in the future. | Mar 22 20:09 |
| schestowitz | Right now I'm cautiously optimistic though that most motherboard vendors will still offer the option to disable SecureBoot, so it's not a nightmare scenario quite yet. At least these days more IHVs are concerning themselves with Linux thanks to SteamOS & Co. Windows 10 computers will start surfacing later this year. | Mar 22 20:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 22 20:09 |
| cubexyz | this is a "boil the frog" thing | Mar 22 20:38 |
| cubexyz | M$ is turning up the heat | Mar 22 20:38 |
| cubexyz | they don't have to make it impossible to boot linux, that would attract attention from the DOJ | Mar 22 20:39 |
| cubexyz | they'll just keep making it more and more difficult | Mar 22 20:40 |
| balrog | expect low end stuff to be locked out | Mar 22 20:41 |
| balrog | like the 7" acer tablets | Mar 22 20:41 |
| cubexyz | "it's not a nightmare scenario quite yet" | Mar 22 20:41 |
| cubexyz | that's not very reassuring | Mar 22 20:42 |
| balrog | it's stuff for which they don't even bother to make a stable UEFI firmware | Mar 22 20:43 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft might not revoke the linux key? Wow, that's not something I can really count on | Mar 22 20:44 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5805132 | Mar 22 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Michael Silver Back to Acting as #Gartner 's Microsoft Agent, Promoting #Vista10 Based on False Promises http://techrights.org/2015/03/22/michael-silver-vista-10/ | Mar 22 20:45 | |
| schestowitz | "In the Netherlands we say "Bijt niet in de hand die je voert." (never bite the hand that feeds you). So their reports wont have any importance because it's more of an ad than a report?" | Mar 22 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Michael Silver Back to Acting as Gartner’s Microsoft Agent, Promoting Vista 10 Based on False Promises | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/jyncp ] | Mar 22 20:45 | |
| schestowitz | Many reporters do reprint what Gartners says | Mar 22 20:45 |
| cubexyz | I'm not using any microsoft key that can be revoked, ridiculous idea | Mar 22 20:46 |
| cubexyz | fact: the OEMs can lock secure boot on | Mar 22 20:48 |
| cubexyz | doesn't mean they will of course | Mar 22 20:48 |
| MinceR | not in the beginning, that is | Mar 22 20:48 |
| cubexyz | I hear even if you remove the cmos battery secure boot will stay on | Mar 22 20:50 |
| cubexyz | the board has to support Legacy Boot | Mar 22 20:52 |
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| cubexyz | if it does, you're fine | Mar 22 20:52 |
| MinceR | until you step in a bug because it's a bloated mess | Mar 22 20:53 |
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| cubexyz | I know one of my motherboards quite well as I put coreboot on it | Mar 22 20:55 |
| cubexyz | even did some ISA card testing with it | Mar 22 20:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD | Mar 22 20:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Systems http://t.co/j6T35meM4m | Mar 22 20:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD Linux Systems - Phoronix | Mar 22 20:59 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited '"AMD Is Hiring Two More Open-Source Linux GPU...' | Mar 22 20:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines User reviews: Applications provided by #Jolla | Mar 22 21:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YZE9ZfjeGj | Mar 22 21:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reviewjolla.blogspot.nl | Review #Jolla #SailfishOS: User reviews: Applications provided by Jolla | Mar 22 21:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @JollaBot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'User reviews: Applications provided by #Jolla http://t.co/YZE9ZfjeGj' | Mar 22 21:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition FINAL released. | Mar 22 21:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition FINAL released. | Tux Machines | Mar 22 21:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 101 Open Source Tools for Developers | Mar 22 21:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 101 Open Source Tools for Developers | Tux Machines | Mar 22 21:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD | Mar 22 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Systems http://t.co/ITfPY7YZT6 | Mar 22 21:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 22 21:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD Linux Systems | Tux Machines | Mar 22 21:36 | |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/ | Mar 22 21:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Windows 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jy8jp ] | Mar 22 21:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines User reviews: Applications provided by Jolla | Mar 22 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | User reviews: Applications provided by Jolla | Tux Machines | Mar 22 21:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Telco sector OPNFV project champions open | Mar 22 21:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | network services http://t.co/l6tZpKCxUB | Mar 22 21:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Telco sector OPNFV project champions open network services | Tux Machines | Mar 22 21:38 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Mar 23 01:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited '101 Open Source Tools for Developers http://t.co/1ueuQSsb6i' | Mar 23 01:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Running for DPL http://t.co/mimujFT6D8 | Mar 23 01:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.dogguy.org) "I nominated myself as a | Mar 23 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dogguy.org | Crazy world...: Running for DPL | Mar 23 01:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | candidate for the 2015 DPL election." | Mar 23 01:27 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5807478 | Mar 23 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: .@STcom and @govsingapore have changed their whole brand/background to a shrine of Lee Kuan Yew. So much for free press and gov... #singapore | Mar 23 01:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Want to run Android on your PC? AMI’s DuOS is | Mar 23 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the answer http://t.co/BYMbSuWaIq | Mar 23 02:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.digitaltrends.com) | Mar 23 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Android on Windows: AMI DuOS review | Digital Trends | Mar 23 02:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Big Manjaro Linux refresh | Mar 23 02:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux KDE 0.9.0 Pre5 Out Now, Ships with KDE Plasma 5.2.1 and KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 - Softpedia | Mar 23 02:01 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Manjaro Linux Update Pack Brings Lots of KDE Plasma 5 and Xfce 4.12 Fixes, Linux Kernel 3.19.2 - Softpedia | Mar 23 02:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Mar 23 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | 3 mins · Edited · | Mar 23 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that would make it tortoise interruptus? | Mar 23 04:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://gizmo.do/rSAwR0Y | Mar 23 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Man Interrupts Tortoise Sex, World's Slowest Chase Scene Ensues | Mar 23 04:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Mar 23 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | 6 mins · | Mar 23 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | Mario coming to the iPhone.... Why is this news? I'm sure that Android has an NES emulator that can load ROMs. The only reason it would be news for Apple users is because they're forbidden to install things like that. | Mar 23 04:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.zdnet.com/article/top-ios-news-of-the-week-mario-coming-to-iphone-ios-8-growing-trade-android-for-iphone/ | Mar 23 04:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Top iOS news of the week: Mario coming to iPhone, iOS 8 growing, trade Android for iPhone | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jyqgx ] | Mar 23 04:39 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @sjodogne favourited 'Sébastien Jodogne, ReGlue are Free Software Award winners...' | Mar 23 06:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Demise of Open Source Hosting Providers | Mar 23 06:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Codehaus and Google Code http://t.co/8qSfuXPH8V | Mar 23 06:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Demise of Open Source Hosting Providers Codehaus and Google Code | Tux Machines | Mar 23 06:03 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5807206 | Mar 23 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@silverwolf@diasp.eu: After receiving comments with people attacking me personally and calling me an anti-semite for sharing political cartoons regarding the state of Israel, I have taken down some of the cartoons. I wonder if anyone would have said anything had I shared cartoons about the prophet Mohammad? Probably not considering the feedback. #doublestandards #hypocrisy #freespeech | Mar 23 08:41 | |
| schestowitz | "There are jokes about Catholic priests everywhere just the same about Muslims, but when you say "hey Rabbi" they get their panties in a bunch. LOL Im glad it is quite obvious to some of you ;)" | Mar 23 08:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | Lefties/Progressives would have attacked you either way (Israel or Muhammad cartoons), probably even more on the latter since many lefties are raving anti-semites. Others usually have individual preferences. While there definitely is a strong political control with such hypocrisy (e.g. in France), I dunno if there is any of that on Diaspora. | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | I generally stay away from the topic Israel/Jews/Palestine/et.al., since it's just one big mess and I have no idea what is actually going on – like ISIS, the US is/was probably behind some of it, but to what degree is pure speculation. | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | It's good that you're willing to risk your neck going in there, but besides my adamant support for your right to free speech I cannot back you up on the issue; except that the attackers should go fuck themselves. Repeatedly. Against their own will. With chainsaws. | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | "well said" | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | "Be careful who you generalize about." | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | xDDD | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | Seems someone is so horribly traumatized by rambo's movies about "lefties/progressives", that forgets that are the righties the ones who are funding the righties in israel, ukraine, venezuela, and everywhere :) I know there are many childish here (exactly the same as in righties) but this is Off-topic isn't it? :) | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5806610 | Mar 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Mexicoleaks shows promise http://www.latintimes.com/mexican-wikileaks-launched-will-mexicoleaks-unearth-corruption-301638 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/03/13/mexicos-version-of-wikileaks-causes-controversy-before-its-first-story/ http://phys.org/news/2015-03-mexico-wikileaks.html | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.latintimes.com | Mexican Wikileaks Launched: Will Mexicoleaks Unearth Corruption? [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh6 ] | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | Mexico’s version of WikiLeaks causes controversy before its first story - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh7 ] | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | Do you mean the country that voted for the most handsome candidate and now seems to regret it? I would not hold my breadth. | Mar 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> phys.org | Mexico's own 'WikiLeaks' already making waves [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh8 ] | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2974973/Pena-Nieto-faces-human-rights-demos.html | Mar 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Pena nieto faces human rights demos | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh9 ] | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5807406 | Mar 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #police for the affluent https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0e/ea/e4/0eeae49e3e67de87fa0ed319206b6f1a.jpg knowing who they really serve and protect (except themselves) | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | "Maybe the hawk did not want problems with the police." | Mar 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5807325 | Mar 23 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hisdudeness777@joindiaspora.com reshared: After receiving comments with people attacking me personally and calling me an anti-semite for sharing political cartoons regarding the state of Israel, I have taken down some of the cartoons. I wonder if anyone would have said anything had I shared cartoons about the prophet Mohammad? Probably not considering the feedback. #doublestandards #hypocrisy #freespeech | Mar 23 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | "Regardless of if they were or they weren't, the double standards have been exposed. Its ok to poke fun at Catholic priests, Muslims, Russians etc but if you open your mouth about a Rabbi, the whole mob goes after you." | Mar 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | If you introduce swastikas and Nazi-era cartoons, then it's becoming tasteless | Mar 23 08:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian | Mar 23 09:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian | Tux Machines | Mar 23 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors | Mar 23 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fight Ebola http://t.co/szsYuy3DWM | Mar 23 09:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 23 09:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors Fight Ebola | Tux Machines | Mar 23 09:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Mar 23 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Tux Machines | Mar 23 09:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now | Mar 23 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download with MakeMKV | Mar 23 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now Available for Download with MakeMKV | Tux Machines | Mar 23 09:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 | Mar 23 09:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Several Updated Drivers | Mar 23 09:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 with Several Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Mar 23 09:25 | |
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| Sosumi | http://blog.gsmarena.com/windows-10-may-play-well-another-os/ | Mar 23 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.gsmarena.com | Windows 10 may not play well with a another OS - GSMArena Blog [ http://ur1.ca/jyrz8 ] | Mar 23 10:49 | |
| Sosumi | disabling secure boot is no longer mandatory | Mar 23 10:49 |
| Sosumi | well, having an option to disable | Mar 23 10:49 |
| Sosumi | it | Mar 23 10:49 |
| schestowitz | > https://duck.co/blog/donations_2015 | Mar 23 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-duck.co | 2015 Open Source Donations | Mar 23 10:51 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz | > Nice to see Tails and GPG on the list. | Mar 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz | DDG? Yikes. | Mar 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: MS Peter | Mar 23 10:51 |
| schestowitz | I think it mat | Mar 23 10:52 |
| schestowitz | may be overstated | Mar 23 10:52 |
| schestowitz | to attract attention | Mar 23 10:52 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: see what I published half an hour ago... | Mar 23 10:52 |
| Sosumi | yep, sorry | Mar 23 10:54 |
| Sosumi | for republishing | Mar 23 10:54 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors...' | Mar 23 11:03 | |
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| cubexyz | PMON did something interesting | Mar 23 11:23 |
| cubexyz | it simulates x86 to handle VGA code | Mar 23 11:24 |
| cubexyz | also supports booting from USB devices | Mar 23 11:24 |
| cubexyz | Debian Wheezy does a pretty good job supporting Lemote | Mar 23 11:25 |
| cubexyz | the Lemote folks have ported Debian to Loongson arch | Mar 23 11:26 |
| cubexyz | Gentoo & Slackware also work | Mar 23 11:26 |
| cubexyz | even java was ported to Loongson | Mar 23 11:27 |
| cubexyz | alas, no distribution at all in North America | Mar 23 11:28 |
| cubexyz | well someone is buying them... everyone seems to be sold out | Mar 23 11:33 |
| cubexyz | alibaba russian has some | Mar 23 11:35 |
| cubexyz | wow, some models are pretty cheap | Mar 23 11:37 |
| cubexyz | $109.50 but tiny 7" screen | Mar 23 11:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No More Probes, A Really Stylish Survival RTS | Mar 23 11:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coming To Linux https://t.co/uc8EgMHmjx | Mar 23 11:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 23 11:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian | Mar 23 11:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com | Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site | Mar 23 11:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors | Mar 23 11:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fight Ebola http://t.co/nhHkxWh24y | Mar 23 11:37 |
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| cubexyz | this is strange... only alibaba russia has stock | Mar 23 11:38 |
| cubexyz | is google pulling something here? | Mar 23 11:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Mar 23 11:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networksasia.net | Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Networks Asia | Mar 23 11:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now | Mar 23 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download with MakeMKV | Mar 23 11:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now Available for Download with MakeMKV - Softpedia | Mar 23 11:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 | Mar 23 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Several Updated Drivers | Mar 23 11:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ISAlLTc4GB (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 23 11:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 with Several Updated Drivers - Softpedia | Mar 23 11:41 | |
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| cubexyz | VIA WM8850 android laptop 7" for $47 but only 20 piece orders | Mar 23 11:43 |
| msb_ | Wow, computers for less than $50! | Mar 23 11:47 |
| msb_ | Soon everyone in the world will have one, or access to one. | Mar 23 11:48 |
| cubexyz | yeah kind of crazy | Mar 23 11:48 |
| cubexyz | something funny is going on with lemote though | Mar 23 11:48 |
| msb_ | Free software will be vital to enable uncensored communication. | Mar 23 11:48 |
| cubexyz | msb_, don't you think it's a bit odd that alibaba russian has tons of lemote laptops but when I log onto my alibaba account there's no lemote computers at all? | Mar 23 11:49 |
| msb_ | There is also Raspberry Pi 2, and this one, which has so many hardware features it is thrilling: http://store.imgtec.com/us/product/mips-creator-ci20/ | Mar 23 11:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-store.imgtec.com | MIPS® Creator CI20 | Imagination Store [ http://ur1.ca/jys7g ] | Mar 23 11:51 | |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Sure. Maybe XRevan86 could try logging in. | Mar 23 11:53 |
| XRevan86 | I don't have an account there. | Mar 23 11:53 |
| cubexyz | msb_, CI20 creator looks interesting but what about the firmware? | Mar 23 11:54 |
| msb_ | Not sure. Everything may be opensource. http://elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI20 | Mar 23 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elinux.org | MIPS Creator CI20 - eLinux.org | Mar 23 11:56 | |
| cubexyz | nah, looks like binary blobs to me | Mar 23 11:57 |
| msb_ | http://elinux.org/CI20_Downloads | Mar 23 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elinux.org | CI20 Downloads - eLinux.org | Mar 23 11:57 | |
| msb_ | We are entering the era of system on a chip. For sure, somebody will do it right. | Mar 23 11:58 |
| msb_ | China manufactures very inexpensive chips. | Mar 23 11:59 |
| msb_ | Like and Ato | Mar 23 11:59 |
| msb_ | Like and AtoD to USB convertor for a couple of dollars. | Mar 23 11:59 |
| msb_ | Like an AtoD to USB convertor for a couple of dollars. | Mar 23 12:00 |
| cubexyz | I see that ARM-based chromebooks also use U-boot | Mar 23 12:00 |
| cubexyz | like the CI20 | Mar 23 12:00 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think I'll probably get one of the chromeboxes | Mar 23 12:01 |
| msb_ | If widespread uncensored Net access can be achieved, along with computers for $50-100 complete with keyboard and screen, then the fascist attacks by the US Empire will be more difficult to carry out, or at least to lie about. | Mar 23 12:04 |
| msb_ | Controlling entire populations is difficult. Bombing has a bad reputation. | Mar 23 12:05 |
| cubexyz | something up in Yemen | Mar 23 12:06 |
| cubexyz | there's talk of civil war :-/ | Mar 23 12:06 |
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| msb_ | Here's a recent article from the most accurate news site I've found: http://www.globalresearch.ca/yemen-american-weapons-once-more-landed-up-in-the-wrong-hands-mistakenly-in-the-hands-of-al-qaeda/5437988 | Mar 23 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Yemen: American Weapons Once More “Landed Up in the Wrong Hands”. Mistakenly in the Hands of Al Qaeda | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/jys9j ] | Mar 23 12:11 | |
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| msb_ | The primary goal of US policy is to destroy socialism, because socialism gives the profits to workers instead of to ultra-wealthy psychopath owners like the ones who control the US govt. | Mar 23 12:41 |
| msb_ | To this end, the US backs the most murderous dictators it can find, to keep workers from organizing. About half a century ago, the US got rid of socialist leaders in Iraq and Iran, replacing them with torturing murdering Saddam Hussein and Shah Reza Pahlavi. | Mar 23 12:44 |
| MinceR | yeah, we had so much profit under socialism | Mar 23 12:44 |
| msb_ | In stage two, Saddam got a bit uppity, and was declared to be a monster by the US. So he and Iraq were declared war targets by the US, which murdered millions of Iraqis. The US neglected to mention that it had put Saddam into power in the first place. | Mar 23 12:46 |
| msb_ | Pahlavi got sick and died, and was replaced by Ayatollah Khomeini. | Mar 23 12:47 |
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| MinceR | must be a reptoid conspiracy. | Mar 23 12:48 |
| msb_ | Here the anti-human insanity of the Moslem religion came in handy. If you can get people down on their knees worshipping a non-existent deity several times a day, instead of several times a year as with judaism and christianity, then you have pretty much destroyed their minds and capacity for critical thinking. You can get them to do anything you tell them. | Mar 23 12:50 |
| msb_ | So both Iraq and Iran were controlled by murderous lunatics, thanks to the US. The US armed both of them to fight wars against each other. | Mar 23 12:51 |
| msb_ | The US armed, financed and trained Al-Qaeda, back when it was called the Mujahideen and sent by Reagan to overthrow the secular socialist government of Afghanistan, in order to cause trouble for the USSR ("Russia's Vietnam"). | Mar 23 12:55 |
| msb_ | Now the US has created ISIS, and is arming and funding it through one or more cut-outs, and claiming it is the current | Mar 23 12:56 |
| msb_ | Now the US has created ISIS, and is arming and funding it through one or more cut-outs, and claiming it is the current Great Menace. | Mar 23 12:56 |
| msb_ | It's easy to create armies of insane Moslem warriors with a few billion dollars. The religion makes them crazy, and also teaches them "Jihad" -- mass-murdering whatever group the leader tells them are not true Moslems. | Mar 23 12:59 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @Teamharmonie Enterprise Mobility Daily is out! | Mar 23 16:32 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Apparently, Ubuntu Doesn’t Need Blu-ray Burning | Mar 23 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Support http://t.co/NwQwYXyPEh | Mar 23 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 23 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Apparently, Ubuntu Doesn’t Need Blu-ray Burning Support - Softpedia | Mar 23 16:49 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to Set Up Your Linux Dev Station to Work | Mar 23 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | From Anywhere http://t.co/l9ZgDjYH48 | Mar 23 16:49 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linux.com) | Mar 23 16:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | How to Set Up Your Linux Dev Station to Work From Anywhere | Linux.com | Mar 23 16:49 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Neptune 4.3 available http://t.co/VQweqZi7b5 | Mar 23 16:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itrunsonlinux.com | Neptune 4.3 available | It runs on Linux | Mar 23 16:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ten years of Kubuntu http://t.co/0hiORcYxLA | Mar 23 17:09 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 23 17:09 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (lwn.net) | Mar 23 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lwn.net | Ten years of Kubuntu [LWN.net] | Mar 23 17:09 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Tails 1.3.1 Is an Emergency Release to Patch | Mar 23 17:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Tails 1.3.1 Is an Emergency Release to Patch Critical Security Issues in Tor Browser - Softpedia | Mar 23 17:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leveraging the power of academia in your open | Mar 23 17:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source project http://t.co/S4qA3GvVUn | Mar 23 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leveraging the power of academia in your open source project | Tux Machines | Mar 23 17:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/artZ6ZoUrE | Mar 23 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 23 17:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/TDctw040yX | Mar 23 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux Machines | Mar 23 17:10 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/pBXPvW0xLP | Mar 23 17:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 23 17:10 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's releases and howtos | Mar 23 18:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's releases and howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 23 18:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 23/3/2015: Linux 4.0 RC5, Kubuntu | Mar 23 18:31 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Celebrates Ten Years http://t.co/DsLUDQCGXz | Mar 23 18:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/3/2015: Linux 4.0 RC5, Kubuntu Celebrates Ten Years | Techrights | Mar 23 18:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Software freedom http://t.co/egO84wE1rZ | Mar 23 18:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software freedom | Tux Machines | Mar 23 18:31 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10984603_909130072464858_8849666308484622567_n.jpg?oh=03a5324b80a94705197d13c3f708f5ef&oe=557E826D | Mar 23 18:40 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: George Bush could not recall this proverb | Mar 23 19:27 |
| schestowitz | !google bush shame on you | Mar 23 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bush "Fool Me Once..." - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DeKgPY1adc0A | Mar 23 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - George W. Bush - Wikiquote | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_W._Bush | Mar 23 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Quote by George W. Bush: “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I ... | http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/6436-there-s-an-old-saying-in-tennessee-i-know-it-s | Mar 23 19:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bushism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushism | Mar 23 19:28 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 23 19:28 |
| schestowitz | do you have this in the weekend to look into logs? | Mar 23 19:28 |
| schestowitz | I hope to publish the logs next week :-p | Mar 23 19:29 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 23 19:29 |
| MinceR | which days do you need logs for? | Mar 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz | cheers mate :-) | Mar 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz | best to go back to 24/2 | Mar 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz | for the 4 channels | Mar 23 19:29 |
| MinceR | so everything since 2015-02-24? | Mar 23 19:29 |
| schestowitz | yes, please, if possible... | Mar 23 19:30 |
| MinceR | ok | Mar 23 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I didn't lose data since 2008... | Mar 23 19:30 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: is it ok if i package a bigger range? it would take less work for me :) | Mar 23 19:46 |
| schestowitz | sure :-) | Mar 23 19:47 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: which email address should i send it to? or should i just upload it to sendspace and paste the link? | Mar 23 20:25 |
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| MinceR | “I have to explain that I’m not an anarchist – I have a pro-state gland.” | Mar 23 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: r at schestowitz com, thank you :-) | Mar 23 20:42 |
| MinceR | is it ok if i send it via gmail? | Mar 23 20:45 |
| MinceR | the file is too big for mail2tor :) | Mar 23 20:45 |
| schestowitz | sure no secrets in it | Mar 23 20:45 |
| schestowitz | much of it is to be published as HTML | Mar 23 20:45 |
| MinceR | sent | Mar 23 20:47 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: that's awesome, thank you! | Mar 23 21:24 |
| MinceR | np | Mar 23 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: #Debian Project Leader 2010-2013 and board director at #OSI /opensource dot org considers asking a question about #systemd 'trolling' https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150323.184359.c8760b91.en.html | Mar 24 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.dyne.org | Re: [Dng] rumors on RMS about systemd at libreplanet [ http://ur1.ca/jyvb9 ] | Mar 24 01:23 | |
| MinceR | seen it | Mar 24 01:23 |
| MinceR | also, Stefano Zacchiroli is also a member of Free Software Foundation's High Priority Projects committee, according to wikipedia | Mar 24 01:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/580181745540018176 | Mar 24 01:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Did you catch? -- https://t.co/kbXHmfuK56 (Banks; Cards; "Consumer Credit / Reporting Agencies",e.g.,"TRW"=CIA contractor, etc) | Mar 24 01:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/03/21/have-the-banks-escaped-criminal-prosecution-because-theyre-spying-surrogates/ ) | Mar 24 01:47 | |
| schestowitz | Seen it, tweeted it days ago, posted in techrights | Mar 24 01:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: wow | Mar 24 01:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/580184530679541760 | Mar 24 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Excellent: have you drawn and inferences or connections from it? Like to hear | Mar 24 01:55 | |
| schestowitz | Not my area of expertise TBH | Mar 24 01:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/580185586348118016 | Mar 24 01:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@zacchiro considers asking@ question about #systemd 'trolling' https://t.co/GAbRHE31H0 via @schestowitz cc:@mbJunior http://t.co/hUxe8JXknk | Mar 24 01:55 | |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 24 01:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/580186146845560833 | Mar 24 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz darn! | Mar 24 01:57 | |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 24 02:30 |
| schestowitz | nn, wow, late... | Mar 24 02:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5810991 | Mar 24 02:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #idg helps people run #windows stuff on #gnu #linux http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900497/how-to-run-windows-software-in-linux-everything-you-need-to-know.html as if GNU/Linux hasn't got #freesw for everything | Mar 24 02:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | How to run Windows software in Linux: Everything you need to know | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jywns ] | Mar 24 02:30 | |
| schestowitz | "I don't think pure GNU 100% free software allows for wine or virtual machine due to proprietary code...." | Mar 24 02:30 |
| schestowitz | Nothing prevents it from running, but I guess prebundling it in a distro is another matter... | Mar 24 02:31 |
| MinceR | they can even run systemd, wayland and gnome | Mar 24 02:34 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900497/how-to-run-windows-software-in-linux-everything-you-need-to-know.html | Mar 24 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 24 02:39 |
| schestowitz | > kind of missing the point | Mar 24 02:39 |
| schestowitz | No, maybe this IS the point of IDG. | Mar 24 02:39 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: your recent microsoft articles are excellent. I didn't know Win 10 had no off secure boot requirement for OEMs | Mar 24 04:12 |
| XFaCE | but we knew that would eventually happen. Even Nathan Lineback knew. Doesn't take a genius | Mar 24 04:12 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: but I love how we were all paranoid | Mar 24 04:12 |
| XFaCE | somehow | Mar 24 04:12 |
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| XFaCE | "Meanwhile, as revealed to us by a tip, Microsoft’s booster Julie Bort writes “LEAKED” to mean “press release” or “public relations”. It is yet another puff piece/ad framed as “leak” for some extra attention or allure. Again, this is typical for Microsoft. Watch this other article titled “Microsoft leak shows plans for cloud-first Nano Server”." | Mar 24 04:38 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: of course, this shit's been going on since the 90s | Mar 24 04:39 |
| XFaCE | Cairo, Longhorn, et al. | Mar 24 04:39 |
| XFaCE | Many promises during Chicago | Mar 24 04:39 |
| XFaCE | OS/2. Windows NT, Windows 1.x | Mar 24 04:39 |
| XFaCE | lots of obfuscating bullshit encrusting the substance | Mar 24 04:40 |
| XFaCE | The perpetual fluff machine by Microsoft | Mar 24 04:41 |
| tessier | Windows 3.1 was the last version of Windows I ever seriously used. | Mar 24 04:50 |
| XFaCE | "Microsoft loves Linux like a shark loves fish." - Indeed | Mar 24 05:12 |
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| DaemonFC | I posted to Apple's Facebook wall. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Ryan FarmerApple Inc. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | 1 min · | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | The Tor Project (which allows for people to browse the web without being spied on by third parties) has been investigating barriers to people being able to use the Tor software. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | One of the biggest problems is the Mac's so-called "security" option, which prevents Tor from being installed. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually, you won't be able to turn off the so-called Mac "security" option, and only app store apps will run, and then Apple will be censoring your Mac software the same way they do with the ipad and iphone. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | All of Apple's products are malware, because they attack the user's freedoms, beginning with the freedom to run any software, for any purpose, at any time. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Apple should fix their products if they're seriously concerned about security problems that allowed malware like Mac Defender and Flashback to install themselves on 1 in 4 Macs at their peak. Attacking the user isn't the right way to do that. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | Apple banned Tor software from the iThings already, without any explanation. A power that they have over users only because those users foolishly surrendered their freedom to Apple. | Mar 24 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ux-sprint-2015-wrapup | Mar 24 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | UX Sprint 2015 wrapup | The Tor Blog [ http://ur1.ca/jyxzt ] | Mar 24 07:58 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, You figure they'll block me for that? | Mar 24 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | Seems their wall is full of complaints. | Mar 24 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | Bad customer service. | Mar 24 08:01 |
| DaemonFC | One guy said he got a brand new iPad with a huge dent in it and Apple won't replace it. | Mar 24 08:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Fedora 22 Alpha Gnome Edition : Video Overview | Mar 24 08:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | and Screenshot Tours http://t.co/0uEIsJH8gR | Mar 24 08:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 22 Alpha Gnome Edition : Video Overview and Screenshot Tours | Tux Machines | Mar 24 08:22 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME Shell & Mutter 3.16.0 Released | Mar 24 08:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Shell & Mutter 3.16.0 Released | Tux Machines | Mar 24 08:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Some cool Plasma tips and tricks | Mar 24 08:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Some cool Plasma tips and tricks | Tux Machines | Mar 24 08:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines KWinception http://t.co/cEASma5euH | Mar 24 08:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KWinception | Tux Machines | Mar 24 08:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4 reasons why people should stop associating | Mar 24 08:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | open source with a lack of security | Mar 24 08:27 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 reasons why people should stop associating open source with a lack of security | Tux Machines | Mar 24 08:27 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux-based COMs gain WiFi AP and BLE 4.1 functions | Tux Machines | Mar 24 10:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux Fears of Windows Lock-out Here Now | Mar 24 10:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Fears of Windows Lock-out Here Now | Tux Machines | Mar 24 10:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linux-based COMs gain WiFi AP and BLE 4.1 | Mar 24 10:22 |
| TweetTuxMachines | functions http://t.co/XMTJatta3t | Mar 24 10:22 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Linux-based COMs gain WiFi AP and BLE 4.1 functions · LinuxGizmos.com | Mar 24 10:22 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Companies Plan to Hire More Linux Pros | Mar 24 10:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.baselinemag.com | Companies Plan to Hire More Linux Pros | Mar 24 10:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "Stallman had no opinion on systemd other than | Mar 24 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | it being more of a "convenience question" than | Mar 24 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | an open source issue." http://t.co/ctQfQrUC9E | Mar 24 10:28 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Female kernel developer for fedora | Mar 24 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gxazmhXPYI (paul.frields.org) signs | Mar 24 10:28 |
| TweetTuxMachines | of change | Mar 24 10:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-paul.frields.org | Another new Fedora team member. - The Grand Fallacy | Mar 24 10:28 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Return of Bodhi Linux's King | Mar 24 10:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. | Mar 24 10:28 | |
| cubexyz | if motherboard manufacturers and security gurus really wanted safe BIOS they would go back to using read-only PROMs | Mar 24 10:47 |
| cubexyz | or at the very least a physical read-only switch | Mar 24 10:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Black Lab Linux 6.5 Released with Xfce 4.12, | Mar 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | KDE 4.14, MATE 1.8, and GNOME 3.10 | Mar 24 10:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Black Lab Linux 6.5 Released with Xfce 4.12, KDE 4.14, MATE 1.8, and GNOME 3.10 - Softpedia | Mar 24 10:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines antiX 14.4 MX "Symbiosis" Linux Distribution | Mar 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Xfce 4.12, Based on Debian 7 Wheezy | Mar 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Vr0rLEppjN (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 24 10:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | antiX 14.4 MX "Symbiosis" Linux Distribution Brings Xfce 4.12, Based on Debian 7 Wheezy - Softpedia | Mar 24 10:48 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Shotwell 0.22.0 Released Ahead of GNOME 3.16 | Mar 24 10:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Metadata Support for Facebook Upload | Mar 24 10:48 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Shotwell 0.22.0 Released Ahead of GNOME 3.16 with Metadata Support for Facebook Upload - Softpedia | Mar 24 10:48 | |
| cubexyz | basically we have a crap system of SMT UEFI BIOS instead | Mar 24 10:49 |
| cubexyz | even worse, a proprietary closed source SMT BIOS | Mar 24 10:50 |
| cubexyz | esstentially we are moving towards computers which are user-hostile | Mar 24 10:51 |
| cubexyz | on the original Amigas we had PROMs | Mar 24 10:54 |
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| cubexyz | and they were socketed | Mar 24 10:54 |
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| cubexyz | anyways the whole UEFI is crap | Mar 24 11:22 |
| cubexyz | the motherboard manufacturers could have used read-only PROMs if they were serious about stopping malware on the BIOS | Mar 24 11:23 |
| cubexyz | making your own BIOS takes a serious amount of effort | Mar 24 11:30 |
| cubexyz | if you don't get help from the manufacturer it could take 5 years or even longer to reverse-engineer a BIOS | Mar 24 11:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Eclipse 1.5 Overview & Screenshots | Mar 24 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/tZeu69JDdX (www.tuxarena.com) | Mar 24 11:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxarena.com | Red Eclipse 1.5 Overview & Screenshots | TuxArena | Mar 24 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Radeon DisplayPort MST Queued For Linux 4.1 | Mar 24 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/c1z2psUCI8 (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 24 11:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Radeon DisplayPort MST Queued For Linux 4.1 - Phoronix | Mar 24 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Companies Plan to Hire More Linux Pros | Mar 24 11:44 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Companies Plan to Hire More Linux Pros | Tux Machines | Mar 24 11:44 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Why OpenStack is different from other open | Mar 24 11:44 |
| TweetTuxMachines | source projects http://t.co/1JlpVWXLeI | Mar 24 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 24 11:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why OpenStack is different from other open source projects | Tux Machines | Mar 24 11:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines antiX 14.4 MX "Symbiosis" Linux Distribution | Mar 24 11:45 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Brings Xfce 4.12, Based on Debian 7 Wheezy | Mar 24 11:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | antiX 14.4 MX "Symbiosis" Linux Distribution Brings Xfce 4.12, Based on Debian 7 Wheezy | Tux Machines | Mar 24 11:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Return of Bodhi Linux's King | Mar 24 11:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Return of Bodhi Linux's King | Tux Machines | Mar 24 11:45 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Radeon DisplayPort MST Queued For Linux 4.1 | Mar 24 11:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Radeon DisplayPort MST Queued For Linux 4.1 | Tux Machines | Mar 24 11:45 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'The Return of Bodhi Linux's King http://t.co/iHNwzt5etC' | Mar 24 11:45 | |
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| XRevan86 | cubexyz: SecureBoot "secures" from unsigned stuff on EFI partition. Question: how did this unsigned appear on EFI partition? | Mar 24 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | unsigned stuff* | Mar 24 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | Can't Windows make an FS read-only or anything? | Mar 24 12:40 |
| cubexyz | it's FAT I think | Mar 24 12:41 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yeah, FAT{16,32} | Mar 24 12:41 |
| cubexyz | I've never heard of a ready only FAT partition | Mar 24 12:41 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: OS can restrict anything. | Mar 24 12:41 |
| cubexyz | you can always erase the BIOS, at least everything I've ever used can be erased | Mar 24 12:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: SecureBoot doesn't secure from that :D. | Mar 24 12:43 |
| cubexyz | but if you erase the BIOS you need to replace it with something | Mar 24 12:43 |
| cubexyz | so you need something hardware that either coreboot or PMON understands | Mar 24 12:44 |
| cubexyz | s/something/some/ | Mar 24 12:44 |
| cubexyz | the more I learn about this stuff the more I see that Microsoft has a lot of control over the firmware | Mar 24 12:45 |
| cubexyz | I assume coreboot allows booting from usb devices with ext2 partitions | Mar 24 12:48 |
| cubexyz | I've never tried it | Mar 24 12:48 |
| cubexyz | just cdrom and hard drive | Mar 24 12:49 |
| msb_ | Since we know of other ways to lock out malware that don't lock out non-MS OSs, we know that Microsoft is lying when they give their reasons for doing it their way. Right? | Mar 24 12:50 |
| cubexyz | it's all bullshit | Mar 24 12:50 |
| cubexyz | this is round #2, round #1 was locking out BeOS | Mar 24 12:51 |
| cubexyz | I guess though that the BIOS on x86 has always stored in a FAT partition | Mar 24 12:52 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: The biggest proof is their last statement that ability to SecureBoot is not mandatory. | Mar 24 12:52 |
| cubexyz | ability to disable, yes | Mar 24 12:53 |
| XRevan86 | there is no reason for making it possible for vendors to not make SecureBoot disablable | Mar 24 12:53 |
| msb_ | So if they don't want to lock out non-MS OSen, they could have just stayed with that. | Mar 24 12:53 |
| cubexyz | it's totally stupid, what if some hobbyist wants to run their own OS? | Mar 24 12:54 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Yeah. | Mar 24 12:54 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Maintain status-quo | Mar 24 12:54 |
| cubexyz | you could end up with a windows only motherboard | Mar 24 12:54 |
| cubexyz | which I thought was a possibility years ago | Mar 24 12:54 |
| msb_ | There used to be a program that could be run on windows that would load Linux (loadlin?). Will that work on a locked-down mobo? | Mar 24 12:55 |
| cubexyz | that's msdos and real mode I think | Mar 24 12:56 |
| cubexyz | not NT based | Mar 24 12:57 |
| cubexyz | so msdos, win95, win98 stuff | Mar 24 12:57 |
| msb_ | So we can make a clear and simple statement that MS's labelling/certification criterion for Windows 8.1 was just as secure as its criterion for Windows 10, but the latter also locks out all non-MS operating systems. Right? | Mar 24 13:02 |
| cubexyz | no, you can't really say that yet | Mar 24 13:03 |
| XFaCE | [08:54:45]<cubexyz> you could end up with a windows only motherboard | Mar 24 13:03 |
| cubexyz | it depends on whether or not you can disable secure boot | Mar 24 13:03 |
| XFaCE | we are going to end up with XDA devs having to "root" PCs next | Mar 24 13:03 |
| XFaCE | fucking ridiculous | Mar 24 13:03 |
| cubexyz | right, it's a bad situation | Mar 24 13:03 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: It's basically like Android phones now | Mar 24 13:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Radeon DisplayPort MST Queued For Linux 4.1 | Tux Machines | Mar 24 13:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Mar 24 13:04 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/wjUZw9MkFY (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 24 13:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 24 13:04 | |
| XFaCE | Some vendors allow phone bootloader unlocks, some don't | Mar 24 13:04 |
| cubexyz | I remember you could put OpenBSD on zaurus, but that was a PDA not a phone | Mar 24 13:04 |
| XFaCE | the problem is that unlike Google, which doesn't care either way if vendor unlock or keep locked bootloaders | Mar 24 13:04 |
| XFaCE | at least for the most part | Mar 24 13:04 |
| XFaCE | Microsoft DOES have a strong incentive to keep it locked | Mar 24 13:05 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: But the Windows 10 criterion specifically forbids the ability to disable secure boot, right? | Mar 24 13:05 |
| cubexyz | the Google chromebook has developer mode | Mar 24 13:05 |
| XFaCE | msb_: no | Mar 24 13:05 |
| XFaCE | it doesn't mandate that OEMs have to put a switch in | Mar 24 13:05 |
| cubexyz | no, merely that disabling secure boot is optional | Mar 24 13:05 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: No, it doesn't. | Mar 24 13:05 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It allows to forbid. | Mar 24 13:05 |
| XRevan86 | Vendor can do what they like. | Mar 24 13:06 |
| cubexyz | still, no one wants to rely on that | Mar 24 13:06 |
| cubexyz | rather programming in the ability to disable secure boot is optional | Mar 24 13:06 |
| XRevan86 | It is also possible that Microsoft will deal with some vendors to create hardware without ability to disable SecureBoot. | Mar 24 13:06 |
| cubexyz | I think surface computers are like that already? | Mar 24 13:07 |
| cubexyz | not sure | Mar 24 13:07 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: The x86 ones are not. | Mar 24 13:07 |
| XRevan86 | and ARM ones would not recieve Windows 10 %). | Mar 24 13:08 |
| XRevan86 | "You bought Microsoft Surface on ARM? Even Microsoft hates you." | Mar 24 13:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5813540 | Mar 24 13:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The world's next credit crunch http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/11490796/The-worlds-next-credit-crunch-could-make-2008-look-like-a-hiccup.html no accident, not inevitable. Designed, benefits the plutocracy (loans/cheap labour). | Mar 24 13:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.telegraph.co.uk | The world's next credit crunch could make 2008 look like a hiccup - Telegraph [ http://ur1.ca/jyzsc ] | Mar 24 13:09 | |
| schestowitz | "almost 700 trillion is owed to somebody. joke." | Mar 24 13:09 |
| schestowitz | money created in a vacuum | Mar 24 13:09 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: what's your opinion of Rick Falkvinge? | Mar 24 13:09 |
| msb_ | So maybe a publicity campaign would work that tells people "Don't buy X, Y, and Z brand computers because they will lock you in to Windows forever. Buy A, B, or C brand, which are OK." | Mar 24 13:09 |
| XFaCE | I didn't realize he was former Microsoft | Mar 24 13:09 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5813285 | Mar 24 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Stallman has been reading #techrights for many years. It's viewed by him as one of those few (usually small) sites that he can trust. | Mar 24 13:10 | |
| schestowitz | "Congratulations! | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | "How do you know that? How does he read the web? With links or something?" | Mar 24 13:10 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Unless all brands would do that. | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | Browser (in GNOME) and ncurses | Mar 24 13:10 |
| XRevan86 | not for all models of course | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: he's OK | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | I trust him | Mar 24 13:10 |
| cubexyz | does techrights site work well with lynx? :) | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | we talk sometimes online | Mar 24 13:10 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz: I think so, the wordpress and drupal parts should | Mar 24 13:11 |
| schestowitz | probably mediawiki too | Mar 24 13:11 |
| cubexyz | yeah, seems to work pretty well | Mar 24 13:11 |
| schestowitz | the appearance is all in CSS | Mar 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | but i modified the themes a bit, it may hamper reading | Mar 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | like menus as content | Mar 24 13:12 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I noticed a glitch in your drupal header | Mar 24 13:12 |
| XFaCE | your photo is covering part of the tagline at the top | Mar 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | I know of one, anything else? | Mar 24 13:12 |
| schestowitz | Ah, depends on the browser I guess | Mar 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | I never access the drupal side, it's there because I needed to train myself in drupal 2 years ago | Mar 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | for my job | Mar 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | I help maintain london.gov.uk now | Mar 24 13:13 |
| XFaCE | I thought you went Drupal because of WordPress' issues | Mar 24 13:13 |
| schestowitz | to a lesser degree (by choice) food.gov.uk | Mar 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: that led me to knowing drupal better | Mar 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz | so I could better see WordPress' flaws | Mar 24 13:14 |
| XFaCE | aha | Mar 24 13:14 |
| schestowitz | and we bought tuxmachines at the same time, it runs Drupal 6 | Mar 24 13:14 |
| XFaCE | [09:13:02]<schestowitz> Ah, depends on the browser I guess | Mar 24 13:15 |
| XFaCE | I'm just running firefox, nothing fancy | Mar 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz | [09:25] <zoobab> The website encountered an unexpected error. Please try again later. | Mar 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz | usually happens when crackers overwhelm the site with attempts | Mar 24 13:15 |
| schestowitz | happens several times per day now for 6 months... started around the time I did EPO articles | Mar 24 13:16 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: So you work for the government, eh? That explains why you won't talk about the evidence for 9/11 inside job. 8^) | Mar 24 13:16 |
| schestowitz | 9/11 likely to have enjoyed apathy | Mar 24 13:17 |
| schestowitz | as were the anthrax attack, which deHart leaks could suggest were an inside job | Mar 24 13:17 |
| schestowitz | IOW, 9/11 by terrorists | Mar 24 13:17 |
| schestowitz | But oversight in intel' raises question, also Saudi role | Mar 24 13:18 |
| cubexyz | a government job could be OK, like working for the EPA | Mar 24 13:18 |
| cubexyz | or health Canada | Mar 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz | the anthrax attacks seem to have had a hand in them from those selling Iraq war | Mar 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz | BTW, deHart's dad now follows me in twitter | Mar 24 13:18 |
| schestowitz | Canada was deporting him after he had been tortured by the FBI despite being US citizen | Mar 24 13:19 |
| schestowitz | They try to paint him "pedo" | Mar 24 13:19 |
| schestowitz | But it's a cover for espionage vendetta | Mar 24 13:19 |
| msb_ | schestowitz: I can't parse "9/11 likely to have enjoyed apathy" "IOW, 9/11 by terrorists" | Mar 24 13:20 |
| schestowitz | not much done to stop it | Mar 24 13:20 |
| schestowitz | but it's clear what took the buildings done | Mar 24 13:21 |
| schestowitz | and what took 4 planes down | Mar 24 13:21 |
| msb_ | What took WTC 1, 2, and 7 was explosives. | Mar 24 13:21 |
| schestowitz | !google globalresearch bush osama brother | Mar 24 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - George W. Bush: “My Dad Was Meeting with the Brother of Osama ... | http://www.globalresearch.ca/george-w-bush-my-dad-was-meeting-with-the-brother-of-osama-on-september-11-2001-does-that-make-him-a-terror-suspect/5436650 | Mar 24 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - George W. Bush and the Bin Laden Family ... - Global Research | http://www.globalresearch.ca/george-w-bush-and-the-bin-laden-family-meet-in-new-york-city-one-day-before-911/5332870 | Mar 24 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Is Kissing a “State Sponsor of Terrorism” a ... - Global Research | http://www.globalresearch.ca/is-kissing-a-state-sponsor-of-terrorism-a-terrorist-act/5332856 | Mar 24 13:21 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - GW Bush: “My Dad Was Meeting with the Brother of Osama on 9/11 ... | http://humansarefree.com/2015/03/george-w-bush-my-dad-was-meeting-with.html | Mar 24 13:21 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: The US intelligence depts were apathetic | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | not sure, but some people inside the system suggest so | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | like Thomas Drake | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | they ignored warnings | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | at several levels | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | even those warning not to give the hijackers a visa | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | declining them, then overriden by a higher level | Mar 24 13:22 |
| schestowitz | most were saudi | Mar 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | !google report pages 9/11 saudi | Mar 24 13:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Claims Against Saudis Cast New Light on Secret Pages of 9/11 Report | http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/us/claims-against-saudis-cast-new-light-on-secret-pages-of-9-11-report.html | Mar 24 13:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - 9/11 report missing pages - CNN.com | http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/05/politics/sept-11-report-missing-pages/ | Mar 24 13:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bob Graham: Redacted Pages in 9/11 Report 'Point' to Saudis | http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Bob-Graham-911-report-Saudis/2015/01/12/id/618017/ | Mar 24 13:23 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Lawmakers to Obama: Declassify remaining pages of 9/11 report ... | http://rt.com/usa/232935-obama-declassify-september-11-report/ | Mar 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | So there are legitimate questions to be answert | Mar 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | *red | Mar 24 13:23 |
| schestowitz | the government would rather we obsess over nonsense like a theory about laser, explosives, and whatnot... | Mar 24 13:23 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: indeed | Mar 24 13:23 |
| XFaCE | Deliberate apathy is much smarter - provides a scapegoat | Mar 24 13:24 |
| schestowitz | there can be a serious conspiracy without introducing these unbacked claims | Mar 24 13:24 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: exactly, like with Bill Gates | Mar 24 13:24 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, this could help us: | Mar 24 13:24 |
| schestowitz | like, why did the people who complain that their superior overrode their warnings and declination of visas not get much coverage? | Mar 24 13:24 |
| XFaCE | Bill Gates does some very bad things - we don't need to add in conspiracies about eugenics or what not | Mar 24 13:24 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft?s hardware certification requires that OEMs let users enter their system into UEFI ?custom? mode, where they can manually modify the Secure Boot databases and the PK. The system can be put into UEFI Setup Mode, where the user could even specify their own PK, and sign bootloaders themselves. | Mar 24 13:24 |
| schestowitz | or, why are so many hijackers saudi? | Mar 24 13:25 |
| XFaCE | Bill Gates does these shady financial things because this is the way Bill Gates always was | Mar 24 13:25 |
| XFaCE | money and power | Mar 24 13:25 |
| schestowitz | Why did the anthrax come from within the US? | Mar 24 13:25 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: This is too complicated. | Mar 24 13:25 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Will make Linux an impossible choice for many people. | Mar 24 13:25 |
| schestowitz | Why did journalists advised by unnamed gov officials asked to write about the anthrax having roots/links to iraq? | Mar 24 13:26 |
| schestowitz | [13:25] <XFaCE> Bill Gates does some very bad things - we don't need to add in conspiracies about eugenics or what not | Mar 24 13:26 |
| schestowitz | But wait, what's eugenics | Mar 24 13:26 |
| schestowitz | the word is often attributed to conpiracy nuts | Mar 24 13:26 |
| schestowitz | but it's about a real belief | Mar 24 13:26 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I just mean the crap put forward by Infowars | Mar 24 13:26 |
| schestowitz | that did get popularised around ww2 | Mar 24 13:26 |
| XFaCE | that Bill Gates wants to build a society etc. | Mar 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | Gates does want to decrease population size | Mar 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | in a managed way, as an autocrat | Mar 24 13:27 |
| msb_ | Those political matters -- saudi hijackers, intelligence apathy, head of Air Force was in a meeting, etc. -- can always be excused in some way. But physical proof of explosives and thermite _can't_. | Mar 24 13:27 |
| cubexyz | Eugenics: e.g. Hilter killing disabled or mental ill people | Mar 24 13:27 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I guess my point is that it doesn't matter what we think Bill Gates thinks | Mar 24 13:27 |
| XFaCE | his actions are not acceptable and should be criticized | Mar 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | msb_: there's no good proof of such a thing | Mar 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | and it's not needed, either | Mar 24 13:27 |
| schestowitz | the planes alone can take down the buildings | Mar 24 13:28 |
| schestowitz | by softening the metal, which already has high pressure on it | Mar 24 13:28 |
| XFaCE | Bill Gates could want to create a society ruled by Japanese sex robots for all I know | Mar 24 13:28 |
| XFaCE | all that matters is that his common core activities and other crap needs to be opposed | Mar 24 13:28 |
| cubexyz | Gates is easy to understand.. he wants control over things | Mar 24 13:29 |
| msb_ | No they couldn't. The structural alloys were designed to withstand the temperature of burning kerosene. | Mar 24 13:29 |
| schestowitz | msb_: you're right to worry about 9/11, but I think you focus on what controlled opposition wants you to focus on | Mar 24 13:29 |
| XFaCE | if Bill Gates wasn't allowed to do anything like that, then he can believe all he wants | Mar 24 13:29 |
| schestowitz | It's not just Gates | Mar 24 13:29 |
| schestowitz | a lot of rich people want that | Mar 24 13:29 |
| schestowitz | but Gates does it publicly | Mar 24 13:30 |
| schestowitz | and he spins/frames that as him being "responsible adult", rich uncle Bill | Mar 24 13:30 |
| schestowitz | He'd be better off if he shut up | Mar 24 13:30 |
| schestowitz | and chose lower profile and less role in poltics, more like Rockerfeller | Mar 24 13:30 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: I guess my point is that talk about guessing his personal motivations is obfuscating the real demonstrable issues of his actions | Mar 24 13:30 |
| schestowitz | his ability to bribe the papers for puff pieces will degrade over time | Mar 24 13:31 |
| msb_ | The point is that 9/11 was done by the US govt, which then used it to justify the entire War of Terror and the murders of millions of people and the destruction of several nations. That is extremely important for people to know, an to use to evaluate the current situation. | Mar 24 13:31 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, my point was at least there is a way to sign your own key without giving $$$ to verisign | Mar 24 13:31 |
| schestowitz | people already speak about what he's up to, with or without relying on corporate-owned 'news'papers | Mar 24 13:31 |
| cubexyz | I'll help people to do that, or even sell motherboards/systems myself | Mar 24 13:31 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: sure, what he's up to, but interjecting the "leader of the NWO movement" crap is just a distraction | Mar 24 13:32 |
| schestowitz | NWO is a discredited tem | Mar 24 13:32 |
| XFaCE | i.e. focus on the actions, not on guessing internal thoughts | Mar 24 13:32 |
| schestowitz | *term | Mar 24 13:32 |
| schestowitz | even though elitists like Gordon Brown used it | Mar 24 13:32 |
| XFaCE | lol really? | Mar 24 13:32 |
| schestowitz | if you use this term, you're playing into their hands | Mar 24 13:32 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: and that's my point | Mar 24 13:32 |
| schestowitz | and they can generalise opposition to some caricature | Mar 24 13:33 |
| schestowitz | like msb_ | Mar 24 13:33 |
| XFaCE | exactly schestowitz | Mar 24 13:33 |
| XFaCE | exactly my point | Mar 24 13:33 |
| schestowitz | who insists here for years that some dudes put explosives in WTC buildings without anyone noticing or blowing the whistle | Mar 24 13:33 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Now any criticism of Gates' can be dismissed as conspiratorial nonsense | Mar 24 13:33 |
| schestowitz | not really | Mar 24 13:33 |
| schestowitz | he'd wish so | Mar 24 13:33 |
| cubexyz | Gates stole PDP-10 time, used to run 8080 simulators (the other side of the story) | Mar 24 13:33 |
| cubexyz | pot, kettle, black | Mar 24 13:34 |
| XFaCE | that's why I say focus on the actions, and don't interject about personal theories about his personal motivations | Mar 24 13:34 |
| schestowitz | my wiki page about gates foundation got a quarter million hits so far | Mar 24 13:34 |
| schestowitz | this was also mention in radio and some official news sites, so it's not being treated as BS | Mar 24 13:34 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: leave that for corporate media to do | Mar 24 13:34 |
| cubexyz | people don't really trust Gates, so that's main-stream | Mar 24 13:34 |
| schestowitz | like claiming what Hillary of Obama might be thinking, feeling, etc. | Mar 24 13:35 |
| schestowitz | The GOP sites like to talk about how Obama thinks, not what he does | Mar 24 13:35 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: I'm just tired of hearing the "There are many rich people like Bill Gates who do really good things", ala The Young Turks | Mar 24 13:35 |
| cubexyz | ask any former Digital Research employee :) | Mar 24 13:35 |
| XFaCE | the assumption of benevolence | Mar 24 13:35 |
| schestowitz | I've noticed their style. It's very pathetic sometimes and comes across as potentially racist | Mar 24 13:35 |
| XFaCE | [09:35:02]<schestowitz> like claiming what Hillary of Obama might be thinking, feeling, etc. | Mar 24 13:36 |
| XFaCE | exactly my point | Mar 24 13:36 |
| schestowitz | XFaCE: yeah, I noticed TYT doing that | Mar 24 13:36 |
| schestowitz | and was disgusted | Mar 24 13:36 |
| schestowitz | they repeat what they've read in Gates-bribed paper | Mar 24 13:36 |
| XFaCE | And that seems to be the general view of the public unfortuantely | Mar 24 13:36 |
| XFaCE | and goes back to my point | Mar 24 13:36 |
| schestowitz | inseminated with propaganda and mythology | Mar 24 13:36 |
| cubexyz | AARD code... I haven't forgotten | Mar 24 13:36 |
| XFaCE | the infowars paranoia allows for the people with legitimate criticism of gates to be pushed aside as part of the same group | Mar 24 13:37 |
| XFaCE | although it's been getting better with the common core revelations | Mar 24 13:37 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: like you said, Gates is definitely being seen through a more skeptical eye | Mar 24 13:37 |
| schestowitz | depends how you measure it | Mar 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | ask people vs ask 'journalists' | Mar 24 13:38 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: It's kinda like the situation with Gamergate | Mar 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | you might not find it much in the published (written) record | Mar 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | but if you ask people in academia, you'll see something else | Mar 24 13:38 |
| XFaCE | if you support Gamergate, you are a sexist, homophobe, harasser etc. | Mar 24 13:38 |
| XFaCE | If you don't support Gates, you are a conspiracist nutjob | Mar 24 13:38 |
| schestowitz | people in the streets are more probably going to recite what's in the papers | Mar 24 13:39 |
| XFaCE | Source: "Journalists" | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | They think truth comes from authority | Mar 24 13:39 |
| XFaCE | exactly | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | outcome of school/indoctrination system | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | [13:39] <XFaCE> If you don't support Gates, you are a conspiracist nutjob | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | Jealous a more common label | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | not just wrt Gates | Mar 24 13:39 |
| XFaCE | yeah | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | any rich people | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | the "job creators" | Mar 24 13:39 |
| schestowitz | debate reframed | Mar 24 13:40 |
| schestowitz | poor people as parasites | Mar 24 13:40 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: How can you be for Gamergate if you support equality for men and women - how can you support Gates if his charity does so much good in the world? | Mar 24 13:40 |
| schestowitz | rich people as the solution | Mar 24 13:40 |
| XFaCE | yep | Mar 24 13:40 |
| schestowitz | !google gates richer ten percent | Mar 24 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Haves and have nots: America's rich get richer - Journalism | http://hope.journ.wwu.edu/tpilgrim/j190/richgetricher.html | Mar 24 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Rich Get Richer: Bill Gates Tops Forbes 400 List of Richest ... | http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/rich-get-richer-bill-gates-tops-forbes-400-list-richest-n214196 | Mar 24 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bill Gates net worth: He's $9 billion richer than a year ago, but most ... | http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2014/03/06/bill_gates_net_worth_he_s_9_billion_richer_than_a_year_ago_but_most_of_his.html | Mar 24 13:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Billionaires Worth $3.7 Trillion Surge as Gates Wins 2013 - Bloomberg | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-01-02/billionaires-worth-3-7-trillion-surge-as-gates-wins-2013 | Mar 24 13:40 |
| schestowitz | not bad for a "gover" | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | "giver" | Mar 24 13:41 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: That is the great cognitive dissonance I ever seen | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | 10% in one year | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | more than bad loan shark rates | Mar 24 13:41 |
| XFaCE | How can Gates be so applauded for being so charitable, when he's still makign money? | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | tell journalists | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | those that are still in the business | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | they usually rely on funds | Mar 24 13:41 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates pays bbc | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - BBC Radio 4 - Today, 22/01/2015, Bill Gates: Rich should pay their ... | http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02hdq91 | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - BBC News - Bill Gates: I don't pay enough tax | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16714480 | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - BBC News - Bill Gates: 'US should pay more tax' | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-25873306 | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bill Gates: Africa needs better international aid audit - BBC News | http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28470815 | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates pays pbs | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - NOW: Printable Transcript - Bill Moyers Interviews Bill Gates ... - PBS | http://www.pbs.org/now/printable/transcript_inheritance_print.html | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - NOW: Printable Transcript - Bill Moyers interviews Bill Gates | PBS | http://www.pbs.org/now/printable/transcript_gates_print.html | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Triumph of the Nerds: The Transcripts, Part II - PBS | http://www.pbs.org/nerds/part2.html | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bill Gates Pays National Television (This Time PBS) for Self-Serving ... | http://techrights.org/2011/01/10/public-broadcasting-service-as-instrument/ | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates pays guardian | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bill Gates preaches the aid gospel, but is he just a ... - The Guardian | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/06/bill-gates-preaches-fighting-poverty-hypocrite-microsoft-tax | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill Gates dismisses criticism of high prices for ... - The Guardian | http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/jan/27/bill-gates-dismisses-criticism-of-high-prices-for-vaccines | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Bill Gates: nice charity work, shame about the ... - The Guardian | http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/29/bill-gates-charity-work-business-practices | Mar 24 13:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Inside the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation | World ... - The Guardian | http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jul/12/bill-and-melinda-gates-foundation | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | wow, gogole totally spammed | Mar 24 13:42 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: They make it sound like the money gives is such a cost to himself | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | you don't even get the news anymore | Mar 24 13:42 |
| XFaCE | *he gives | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | just articles from the bribes media, which obviously has Gates puff pieces he paid for | Mar 24 13:42 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates pays allafrica | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bill Gates Pays Media to Portray Him As a Saint Alex Jones' Infowars ... | http://www.infowars.com/bill-gates-media-partners-praise-vaccine-gmo-programs-led-by-microsoft-founder/ | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - allAfrica.com: Nigeria: Bill and Melinda Gates' Big Bet | http://allafrica.com/stories/201501261666.html | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - allAfrica.com: Ethiopia: 2015-2030 Critical in Improving Lives of the ... | http://allafrica.com/stories/201502032028.html | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Mar 24 13:43 |
| schestowitz | !google bill gates pays npr | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Timeline: Bill Gates - NPR | http://www.npr.org/news/graphics/2008/june/bill_gates/gates_timeline_04.html | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Bill And Melinda Gates: Benefits Of Global Health Aid - NPR | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php%3FstoryId%3D114220856 | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Gates Grant | StateImpact Florida - NPR StateImpact | http://stateimpact.npr.org/florida/tag/the-gates-grant/ | Mar 24 13:43 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bored? Try Doodling To Keep The Brain On Task : NPR | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php%3FstoryId%3D101727048 | Mar 24 13:43 |
| schestowitz | wow, the news is buried | Mar 24 13:43 |
| schestowitz | it's hard to even know that he bribed them (millions of dollars) | Mar 24 13:44 |
| schestowitz | instead it's all spam/PR | Mar 24 13:44 |
| schestowitz | which worries me actually.. | Mar 24 13:44 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: John Oliver did a good piece on that | Mar 24 13:44 |
| schestowitz | I thought the opposition will have gained some places in search engines | Mar 24 13:44 |
| XFaCE | !john oliver sponsored news | Mar 24 13:44 |
| schestowitz | so maybe Google DOES have a spam issue | Mar 24 13:44 |
| XFaCE | !google john oliver sponsored news | Mar 24 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Native Advertising (HBO ... | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DE_F5GxCwizc | Mar 24 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Ad Industry Execs Weigh In On John Oliver's Native Advertising ... | http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-08-05/ad-industry-execs-weigh-in-on-john-olivers-native-advertising-takedown | Mar 24 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - John Oliver On Native Advertising - Business Insider | http://www.businessinsider.com/john-oliver-on-native-advertising-2014-8 | Mar 24 13:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - ICYMI: John Oliver Flunks the NCAA for its High-Revenue Hypocrisy ... | http://www.boston.com/sports/2015/03/21/icymi-john-oliver-flunks-the-ncaa-for-its-high-revenue-hypocrisy-march-madness/XXtGqleGvPmi9mKkmXD2oL/story.html | Mar 24 13:44 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: Gates does a lot of native advertising | Mar 24 13:45 |
| schestowitz | what's that? | Mar 24 13:46 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: online advertisements disguised as stories | Mar 24 13:47 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: with minimal, obfuscated disclaimers | Mar 24 13:47 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: studies show that most people can't tell native advertsing apart from real news | Mar 24 13:47 |
| schestowitz | it's hard | Mar 24 13:48 |
| schestowitz | if done well | Mar 24 13:48 |
| schestowitz | clever PR people | Mar 24 13:48 |
| XFaCE | and that's the point | Mar 24 13:48 |
| schestowitz | they won't give it away | Mar 24 13:48 |
| XFaCE | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DE_F5GxCwizc | Mar 24 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://www.google.com/sorry/misc/ ) | Mar 24 13:48 | |
| schestowitz | it's like trying to create a bot to fool an observer | Mar 24 13:48 |
| XFaCE | hmm | Mar 24 13:48 |
| schestowitz | and appear like a human across the keyboard and screen | Mar 24 13:48 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: something wrong with the bot | Mar 24 13:48 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_F5GxCwizc | Mar 24 13:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Native Advertising (HBO) - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jz01c ] | Mar 24 13:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://ia801501.us.archive.org/7/items/bsdtalk252/bsdtalk252.ogg | Mar 24 13:53 |
| msb_ | The explosives, but not the detonators, were built in when the towers were constructed in 1969, so they could be demolished at the end of their useful life. No one but the NY Port Authority knew about it, or they would not have moved into the bldgs. | Mar 24 13:58 |
| schestowitz | so nobody involved in the construction knew and buildings are now (apparently) made with lots of explosives in them, by design. Go explain that to contractors of skyscrapers. :-p | Mar 24 14:01 |
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| schestowitz | Enemies of the US would be salivating if they know that US already implants explosives in its biggest buildings ;-) | Mar 24 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Incidentally, from yesterday.. | Mar 24 14:03 |
| schestowitz | !google tower bridge london unexploded bomb | Mar 24 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Tower Bridge shut after 'unexploded bomb' found on building site ... | http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/police-called-in-after-unexploded-bomb-found-near-tower-bridge-bermondsey-10127342.html | Mar 24 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Pictured: unexploded WWII bomb found on building site near Tower ... | http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/pictured-unexploded-wwii-bomb-found-on-building-site-near-tower-bridge-which-forced-residents-to-evacuate-their-homes-10129135.html | Mar 24 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Suspected unexploded WWII bomb found near Tower Bridge - City AM | http://www.cityam.com/212211/suspected-unexploded-wwii-bomb-found-near-tower-bridge | Mar 24 14:04 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Unexploded Bermondsey WWII bomb causes chaos in London after ... | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/unexploded-second-world-war-bomb-causes-chaos-in-london-after-being-dug-up-by-builders-10128412.html | Mar 24 14:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Linux Kernel Vulnerabilities Patched in Ubuntu 14.10, 14.04 LTS and 12.04 LTS | Tux Machines | Mar 24 14:10 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: You are using the straw-man technique. According to a video that people saw in 1990, welders with security clearances were brought in to weld each next level of rebars, which is what the explosives were coated on. But the video didn't say the welders knew they were explosives. | Mar 24 14:10 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Xiaomi's New Mi TV 2: A 40-Inch Android-Powered | Mar 24 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Smart TV for $320 http://t.co/iQH8XOfJMi | Mar 24 14:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xiaomi's New Mi TV 2: A 40-Inch Android-Powered Smart TV for $320 | Tux Machines | Mar 24 14:11 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Mar 24 14:11 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today and Yesterday in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 24 14:11 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME’s Epiphany Web Browser Gets Support for | Mar 24 14:11 |
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| msb_ | schestowitz: And I never said that any other buildings were made with explosives. YOU made that up and sneered at it. That is totally dishonest. | Mar 24 14:12 |
| schestowitz | which video? | Mar 24 14:17 |
| msb_ | It's no longer available. Was removed from library shelves. | Mar 24 14:17 |
| msb_ | Back in 1990 very few people recorded it. | Mar 24 14:18 |
| msb_ | Chris Brown and a few other people saw it. | Mar 24 14:19 |
| schestowitz | ok, makes my point | Mar 24 14:20 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I'm back to posting news now | Mar 24 14:20 |
| msb_ | Run away! | Mar 24 14:20 |
| *schestowitz running | Mar 24 14:20 | |
| msb_ | http://cosmicpenguin.com/911/ | Mar 24 14:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cosmicpenguin.com | The 9-11 Attacks Were Perpetrated By Agents Of The U.S. And Israeli Governments | Mar 24 14:21 | |
| msb_ | "5. In 1990 a PBS video..." | Mar 24 14:22 |
| cubexyz | if it's a PBS video someone must have a copy | Mar 24 14:34 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 24 14:35 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: That's Pubic Broadcast System | Mar 24 14:38 |
| cubexyz | I think you're missing an L :) | Mar 24 14:39 |
| XFaCE | cubexyz: wrong PBS | Mar 24 14:39 |
| cubexyz | I was just thinking 1990 was the peak of the VHS era | Mar 24 14:57 |
| XRevan86 | I have some VHS :). | Mar 24 14:58 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jmtd.net | jmtd → log → Linux music players, 2015 edition | Mar 24 15:04 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @rmsthebot @tuxmachines Linux is only the kernel. | Mar 24 15:04 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Reversi, A Classic Board Game Released On Steam | Mar 24 15:04 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Reversi, A Classic Board Game Released On Steam For Linux, Developer Postmortem | GamingOnLinux | Mar 24 15:04 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Q&A: IBM's Adam Jollans talks Linux & Open | Mar 24 15:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | Q&A: IBM's Adam Jollans talks Linux & Open Source strategy - Computer Business Review | Mar 24 15:16 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Linux Kernel Vulnerabilities Patched in Ubuntu 14.10, 14.04 LTS and 12.04 LTS - Softpedia | Mar 24 15:16 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines How to do fast, repeatable GNU/Linux | Mar 24 15:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Automate everything: Another lesson from the Linux philosophy | Opensource.com | Mar 24 15:20 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines New version of SecureDrop, open-source | Mar 24 15:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | whistleblower submission system originally | Mar 24 15:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New version of SecureDrop, open-source whistleblower submission system originally created by Aaron Swartz | Tux Machines | Mar 24 15:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Trip Down (Computer) Memory Lane | Mar 24 15:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Trip Down (Computer) Memory Lane | Tux Machines | Mar 24 15:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Federal open source software activities are | Mar 24 15:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Federal open source software activities are growing | Tux Machines | Mar 24 15:21 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5813584 | Mar 24 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "only 15% of Britain is using broadband of 30 Mbps or higher" https://www.pirateparty.org.uk/blogs/david-elston/digital-freedoms #uk #internet | Mar 24 16:01 | |
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| schestowitz__ | " | Mar 24 16:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Delaware tops that list that I linked to at 10.88 Mbps. | Mar 24 16:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Not as bad as 0.6Mbps though. Holy shit. I think I might just give up and go to the library. | Mar 24 16:02 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5816207 | Mar 24 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Fox is not news but a political party's #propaganda network, admits Fox staff http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/03/23/foxs-bernie-goldberg-debunks-oreillys-assertion/203013 | Mar 24 16:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> mediamatters.org | Fox's Bernie Goldberg Debunks O'Reilly's Assertion That Fox News Is Not A Conservative Network | Video | Media Matters for America [ http://ur1.ca/jz0xy ] | Mar 24 16:05 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5816389 | Mar 24 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Kneeling to those in charge https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_e18e5aadf4af4d0121ff.jpeg | Mar 24 16:26 | |
| schestowitz__ | "the location of that image is interesting- is that an amazon server being used for Diaspora?" | Mar 24 16:26 |
| schestowitz__ | And has odd/bad mimetypes for JPEG | Mar 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5810991 | Mar 24 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #idg helps people run #windows stuff on #gnu #linux http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900497/how-to-run-windows-software-in-linux-everything-you-need-to-know.html as if GNU/Linux hasn't got #freesw for everything | Mar 24 16:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | How to run Windows software in Linux: Everything you need to know | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jywns ] | Mar 24 16:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Yes but not all distributions are GNU....." | Mar 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz__ | Which ones are not? | Mar 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz__ | "Hi re. Kneeling to those in charge post https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/scaledfulle18e5aadf4af4d0121ff.jpeg Does that mean we are hosted on Amazon?!!" | Mar 24 16:27 |
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| schestowitz__ | Yes, old news and pretty bad stuff | Mar 24 16:28 |
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| MinceR | 172737 < schestowitz__> Which ones are not? | Mar 24 16:30 |
| MinceR | Android :> | Mar 24 16:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/3/2015: WebKitGTK+ 2.8.0, Black Lab Linux 6.5 | Techrights | Mar 24 16:32 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Aungaungsittwe/status/579436002558644224 | Mar 22 04:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: good morning... | Mar 22 04:09 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't know if I'm going to upgrade my phone or not this year. | Mar 22 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | I might just switch to a cheaper plan and keep it for another year or two. It'll be paid for. | Mar 22 05:41 |
| cubexyz | UEFI and HDMI both have nasty stuff embedded inside them | Mar 22 06:11 |
| cubexyz | there's a general attack on computing now | Mar 22 06:11 |
| cubexyz | even TVO uses DRM, it's a bad joke | Mar 22 06:12 |
| cubexyz | educational shows with DRM | Mar 22 06:12 |
| cubexyz | and if you have an older HDTV which is not HDCP compliant you can't watch some shows at all | Mar 22 06:14 |
| cubexyz | Bell is using silverlight for online content... | Mar 22 06:14 |
| cubexyz | it's a frigging mess | Mar 22 06:14 |
| cubexyz | they're trying to turn everything into an unknowable black box | Mar 22 06:22 |
| cubexyz | it will probably be the case that we need to avoid devices with "designed for windows 8/10/etc" | Mar 22 06:28 |
| cubexyz | look for ones without the sticker | Mar 22 06:28 |
| cubexyz | in fact, I could argue that there is actually two different Microsoft Taxes now | Mar 22 06:29 |
| cubexyz | the preloaded windows and the firmware itself | Mar 22 06:29 |
| cubexyz | it's obvious from the leaked firmware code that it's all heavily microsoft-oriented | Mar 22 06:30 |
| cubexyz | looking back into the history of BIOS I've found that originally this was not the case | Mar 22 06:33 |
| cubexyz | but soon afterwards guess what happened? | Mar 22 06:35 |
| cubexyz | IBM used microsoft assembler | Mar 22 06:35 |
| cubexyz | originally it was Intel ASM86 for the IBM PC | Mar 22 06:35 |
| cubexyz | IBM PC AT BIOS was assembled by MASM 1.0 under DOS | Mar 22 06:36 |
| cubexyz | so even in the BIOS era Microsoft had a lot of influence, it's not something that just started recently | Mar 22 06:37 |
| cubexyz | to get away from Microsoft's influence you need to go outside of the x86 world | Mar 22 06:38 |
| cubexyz | ROM BASIC source code has never been published | Mar 22 06:40 |
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| cubexyz | if OEMs want the "made for windows" sticker ... the obvious next step for Microsoft is to pressure them to make it impossible to disable secure boot | Mar 22 06:44 |
| cubexyz | Fedora's using a microsoft key isn't a good answer at all | Mar 22 06:46 |
| cubexyz | an example of the recent situation: | Mar 22 06:48 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/secure-boot.txt | Mar 22 06:48 |
| cubexyz | I think Matthew Garrett has a method that will delete all existing keys and replace them with your own keys | Mar 22 06:58 |
| cubexyz | you could even create a system that will boot Fedora and not windows | Mar 22 06:58 |
| cubexyz | unfortunately there are Microsoft signed UEFI drivers for graphics cards | Mar 22 06:59 |
| schestowitz | NewsCorp http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/cias-post-torture-report-focus-on-digital-could-change-how-australia-fights-terrorism/story-fnpjxnlk-1227258069539 | Mar 22 07:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.news.com.au | CIA torture report: US spy agency to focus on digital [ http://ur1.ca/jyjla ] | Mar 22 07:17 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/digital_human/status/579608074731831297 | Mar 22 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@digital_human: @schestowitz @wikileaks maybe?..... :-} | Mar 22 07:44 | |
| schestowitz | I know about #germany involvement, not Sweden | Mar 22 07:44 |
| msb_ | Maybe one way to fight back against all these UEFI-type attacks is to choose a good state-of-the-art sweet-spot CPU, like the AMD FX-8350, and a good mobo company like ASUS, and choose a good Nvidia graphics card, and get these companies to make a non- cpu, mobo, graphics combination -- each about $150-200 -- so Linux users | Mar 22 08:02 |
| msb_ | Maybe one way to fight back against all these UEFI-type attacks is to choose a good state-of-the-art sweet-spot CPU, like the AMD FX-8350, and a good mobo company like ASUS, and choose a good Nvidia graphics card, and get these companies to make a non-DRM cpu, mobo, graphics combination -- each about $150-200 -- so Linux users users could build a good desktop computer. | Mar 22 08:03 |
| msb_ | It's easy enough to assemble a desktop. I always do it. And if each component costs $150-200, then the price/performance of the whole thing is optimized, and if one of the parts goes bad you can afford to buy a replacement for it. | Mar 22 08:04 |
| msb_ | Desktop mobos and cabinets use a standard form-factor -- I forget what it's called -- so it's easy to find a cabinet and power supply. | Mar 22 08:06 |
| cubexyz | there's only really three players in the UEFI game: | Mar 22 08:08 |
| msb_ | The point is, by settling on one good design for a general-purpose Linux computer (which of course would work for BSD too), we could make it worthwhile for these companies to manufacture what we need for it, regardless of Microsoft's attacks. | Mar 22 08:08 |
| cubexyz | Insyde, Phoenix and AMI | Mar 22 08:09 |
| msb_ | Or just get ASUS to make a mobo with a socketed ROM, so we can put CoreBoot in it. | Mar 22 08:09 |
| cubexyz | I'm not sure what the deal is with UEFI and sockets | Mar 22 08:10 |
| msb_ | EPROM burners are cheap. LUGs could each have one and burn the EPROMs, | Mar 22 08:11 |
| cubexyz | most of the new stuff I fear is surface mounted | Mar 22 08:11 |
| cubexyz | it's not a problem for old stuff (yes back to old stuff again) | Mar 22 08:12 |
| msb_ | Get ASUS to make one good AMD mobo with a socket that just disregards UEFI. | Mar 22 08:12 |
| msb_ | These mobos would NOT be designed to run | Mar 22 08:12 |
| msb_ | These mobos would NOT be designed to run Windows. | Mar 22 08:12 |
| msb_ | So would not need UEFI at all. | Mar 22 08:13 |
| msb_ | ASUS would just have to make one good mobo for an AMD FX-8350 with an EPROM socket, and hundreds of thousands of Linux users would buy it. | Mar 22 08:15 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/digital_human/status/579616839585669120 | Mar 22 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@digital_human: @schestowitz @wikileaks well there is a lot going on in Sweden atm in relation to the US. | Mar 22 08:15 | |
| cubexyz | I wonder what will happen if you change your motherboard on Windows 10 | Mar 22 08:15 |
| cubexyz | your UEFI will change | Mar 22 08:16 |
| cubexyz | so do you have to reinstall the OS? | Mar 22 08:16 |
| msb_ | I think there must be lots of people who never want to run Windows at all. | Mar 22 08:16 |
| msb_ | I haven't used it for 20 years. | Mar 22 08:17 |
| cubexyz | there are some who will replace the mobo though | Mar 22 08:17 |
| cubexyz | right... just thinking about my customers | Mar 22 08:17 |
| msb_ | Get your customers to switch to Linux. | Mar 22 08:17 |
| cubexyz | I'd love to say all my customers are linux/bsd/plan 9 | Mar 22 08:17 |
| cubexyz | oh I try to do that :) | Mar 22 08:17 |
| cubexyz | some of them have chromebooks and Linux desktops | Mar 22 08:18 |
| cubexyz | msb_, I don't think you can avoid UEFI, all motherboards have that now | Mar 22 08:18 |
| cubexyz | to avoid UEFI and use old BIOS you need old hardware | Mar 22 08:19 |
| XRevan86 | (15:15:50) cubexyz: I wonder what will happen if you change your motherboard on Windows 10 | Mar 22 08:20 |
| XRevan86 | (15:16:05) cubexyz: your UEFI will change | Mar 22 08:20 |
| XRevan86 | What do you mean? | Mar 22 08:20 |
| msb_ | I'm saying get a lot of Linux users to promise ASUS that they will buy a non-UEFI mobo with an EPROM socket. Thus make it profitable for ASUS to make one. | Mar 22 08:20 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, will it still run the OS | Mar 22 08:20 |
| msb_ | Linux and BSD users | Mar 22 08:20 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: If Windows was OEM, it'll become unactivated because key is stored in ACPI. | Mar 22 08:20 |
| XRevan86 | (actually, it'll become unactivated anyway because changing motherboard triggers that but if it's not OEM Microsoft will allow to reactivate it) | Mar 22 08:21 |
| cubexyz | the graphics chipset could be different too | Mar 22 08:21 |
| cubexyz | so would it even run? | Mar 22 08:21 |
| XRevan86 | Graphics is not a problem. | Mar 22 08:22 |
| cubexyz | I guess it could go into safe mode or something | Mar 22 08:22 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yeah | Mar 22 08:22 |
| XRevan86 | Nothing UEFI-specific in all that. | Mar 22 08:23 |
| msb_ | People who just do general purpose computing do not need Windows. There's enough FOSS to give them everything they need. | Mar 22 08:24 |
| msb_ | Commercial users who are using windows-specific programs can try to get the vendors to make them run under WINE. | Mar 22 08:25 |
| cubexyz | PMON is still referred to as a "BIOS" | Mar 22 08:25 |
| cubexyz | so Lemote might not have UEFI | Mar 22 08:25 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: UEFI is a BIOS you know. | Mar 22 08:25 |
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| msb_ | Gamers can either stay with MS or pressure the vendors to make Linux or WINE versions. | Mar 22 08:26 |
| msb_ | IT'S TIME TO FIGHT FASCISM IN THE REALM OF PCS, AND THIS IS A WAY TO DO IT. | Mar 22 08:26 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, everyone says that UEFI is the replacment for BIOS | Mar 22 08:26 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: It's a marketing way of saying things. | Mar 22 08:26 |
| cubexyz | e.g. it doesn't have the old limits of 16-bit mode and 1 megabyte of addressable memory | Mar 22 08:27 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Yes, because UEFI suggest an other way for booting. | Mar 22 08:28 |
| XRevan86 | as a replacement for MBR ("Legacy BIOS") | Mar 22 08:28 |
| msb_ | If ASUS won't make one socketed non-UEFI mobo because they don't want to piss off microsoft, they could secretly license the requisite mobo design to some PCB fab company and they could make and sell it. | Mar 22 08:28 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Still, every known BIOS for know support booting via MBR. | Mar 22 08:29 |
| XRevan86 | for now* | Mar 22 08:29 |
| cubexyz | I wonder what the folks in the local computer stores would say if I asked for a mobo with socketed UEFI | Mar 22 08:30 |
| cubexyz | I'd probably get a blank stare | Mar 22 08:30 |
| cubexyz | I think there are all surface mount nowadays | Mar 22 08:30 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: I don't know what socketed BIOS is, too %). | Mar 22 08:30 |
| cubexyz | eh? It's pin in hole package you can remove | Mar 22 08:31 |
| cubexyz | like a DIP | Mar 22 08:31 |
| cubexyz | dual in-line package | Mar 22 08:31 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: What's the point for modern BIOS's? | Mar 22 08:32 |
| XRevan86 | which are reprogrammable | Mar 22 08:32 |
| msb_ | It's a ZIF socket like for the CPU, but smaller. | Mar 22 08:32 |
| cubexyz | programmable under Plan 9? programmable under any OS? | Mar 22 08:32 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: By the way, have you heard that UEFI is going to standardize reprogramming of BIOS's? | Mar 22 08:33 |
| cubexyz | of course it's not, because you have no utility | Mar 22 08:33 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: with modern Linux, the current BIOSes don't impose any limits on disk or memory size, right? Because Linux doesn't even use the BIOS after bootup. | Mar 22 08:34 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Um, what? | Mar 22 08:34 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, how is it going to do that without an external programmer? | Mar 22 08:35 |
| cubexyz | standardize unde windows maybe | Mar 22 08:35 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: In a way it works now. | Mar 22 08:35 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: That means one can write an utility all by himself. | Mar 22 08:36 |
| cubexyz | ok, that's a fair point | Mar 22 08:36 |
| cubexyz | but more difficult surely | Mar 22 08:36 |
| msb_ | I'm asking whether current BIOS will be good for bigger disks and RAM sizes in the foreseeable future for Linux. | Mar 22 08:36 |
| cubexyz | obviously if I can remove the chip (whatever it is) I save myself from a bricked motherboard if something goes wrong or I'm in the middle of development | Mar 22 08:37 |
| msb_ | It's a very basic question. | Mar 22 08:37 |
| cubexyz | msb_, there's a limit, I forget exactly what it is | Mar 22 08:37 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I'm trying to understand how can it be not %). | Mar 22 08:37 |
| cubexyz | my first coreboot project I bricked the board several times | Mar 22 08:38 |
| cubexyz | so I removed the flash rom and reprogrammed it again until I got it working | Mar 22 08:39 |
| msb_ | On Linux bootup, all the BIOS has to access is the MBR on one disk, right? So that disk could be 1000TB and it could still do it. | Mar 22 08:39 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's with MBR, right. | Mar 22 08:39 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Oh, I see what limitation you're talking about. | Mar 22 08:40 |
| XRevan86 | it's a limitation not in BIOS but in a MBR partition table itself | Mar 22 08:40 |
| msb_ | So we don't even need a BIOS socket. We just need ASUS to keep making an AMD-CPU mobo with the current BIOS. | Mar 22 08:41 |
| cubexyz | I'd still rather have the source code for my firmware | Mar 22 08:41 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: So you'll get no limitation neither with UEFI bootup (because it recommends GPT by default) nor with MBR bootup with GPT partition table | Mar 22 08:41 |
| msb_ | But Linux -- grub or whatever -- can write whatever we want in the MBR. | Mar 22 08:41 |
| msb_ | So GPT can handle any huge disks or RAM size we will be using in the foreseeable future -- before the Singularity? | Mar 22 08:44 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's not about handling. | Mar 22 08:44 |
| msb_ | what then? | Mar 22 08:44 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: MBR partition table can't bear long size numbers | Mar 22 08:45 |
| XRevan86 | it's too small and unextendable | Mar 22 08:45 |
| msb_ | So isn't there a substitute for MBR used by Linux for big disks? | Mar 22 08:45 |
| XRevan86 | > On GPT for disks with 512-byte sectors, maximum size is 9.4 ZB | Mar 22 08:45 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: It's GPT. | Mar 22 08:45 |
| cubexyz | it's probably some silly coding limitation | Mar 22 08:46 |
| XRevan86 | GRUB can work with GPT without UEFI on MBR bootup. | Mar 22 08:46 |
| cubexyz | there's no reason why things couldn't be modded to work with bigger drives | Mar 22 08:46 |
| msb_ | OK, I'm happy with 9.4ZB. That's probably enough for me to upload into. | Mar 22 08:46 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Not with MBR for sure. | Mar 22 08:48 |
| XRevan86 | unless you use some hack with partitioning | Mar 22 08:48 |
| XRevan86 | but you can aswell use GPT :) | Mar 22 08:48 |
| cubexyz | right, that's probably why no one bothered (that I know of) | Mar 22 08:48 |
| msb_ | OK, now please summarize for me, because I don't know this stuff. Linux can now write a GPT on a huge disk, and plenty of mobos now will use it. Is that right? | Mar 22 08:49 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: What's a mobo? | Mar 22 08:49 |
| msb_ | motherboard | Mar 22 08:50 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I think I need a more abstract way of telling things :) | Mar 22 08:50 |
| msb_ | Esperanto? | Mar 22 08:51 |
| XRevan86 | MBR is an old standard for storing boot information including partition table and execution code (bootloader). | Mar 22 08:51 |
| msb_ | I understand that. | Mar 22 08:52 |
| XRevan86 | it has a size of 512 bytes where first 446 are the bootloader | Mar 22 08:52 |
| msb_ | And GPT is a new standard that works for much bigger disks, right? | Mar 22 08:52 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, point is that partition table in MBR has a limitation of size in 2 TiB | Mar 22 08:52 |
| XRevan86 | GPT is a partition table that has no such limitation | Mar 22 08:53 |
| cubexyz | btw the 512 byte boot loader predates microsoft | Mar 22 08:53 |
| msb_ | But LInux can write a GPT onto a drive, yes? | Mar 22 08:53 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: sure | Mar 22 08:53 |
| XRevan86 | UEFI standard prescibes to use GPT. | Mar 22 08:53 |
| XRevan86 | Without UEFI with MBR bootloading GRUB can work with GPT | Mar 22 08:54 |
| XRevan86 | and it can't load Windows because Windows sucks so very much it can't abstract GPT support code from UEFI support code. | Mar 22 08:54 |
| cubexyz | in the old days you had uboot.s and assembled that to generate the 512 byte boot loader | Mar 22 08:55 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: 446 byte :) | Mar 22 08:55 |
| cubexyz | ok, but the file itself is 512 bytes | Mar 22 08:56 |
| cubexyz | I know because I assembled it | Mar 22 08:56 |
| msb_ | So as long as ASUS continues to make one good mobo for AMD CPUs (fuck Intel) that can take 32GB or so of DDR3 RAM, and has a UEFI/BIOS/whatever-you-call it that can access a GPT, then Linux users are OK. Is that right? | Mar 22 08:56 |
| cubexyz | the partition table is 64 bytes yes | Mar 22 08:56 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Maybe it also has the partition table for some reason? | Mar 22 08:57 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, it does yes | Mar 22 08:57 |
| XRevan86 | don't see a reason to put it into a file for flashing | Mar 22 08:57 |
| XRevan86 | dd doesn't care whether to copy 446 or 512 bytes. | Mar 22 08:57 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Linux users are okay in either way :). | Mar 22 08:58 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: either? | Mar 22 08:58 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Linux user can use GPT everywhere. | Mar 22 08:58 |
| cubexyz | XRevan86, all the PDP-11 documents say to load 512 bytes into locations 0-776 then start program execution at 0 | Mar 22 08:59 |
| cubexyz | I think the only different way is paper tape | Mar 22 09:00 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Maybe they also hack the partition table and put it into that file. | Mar 22 09:00 |
| XRevan86 | or not file | Mar 22 09:00 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Do you actually _have_ a PDP-11, not just some simulator or FPGA version? | Mar 22 09:00 |
| cubexyz | it is a file... the assembled uboot.s | Mar 22 09:00 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Because I think you should get one. | Mar 22 09:01 |
| msb_ | It's your nirvana. | Mar 22 09:01 |
| msb_ | Get one with VM so it will run Linux. | Mar 22 09:01 |
| XRevan86 | My point is that when you already have a MBR record, you don't have to touch last bytes just to alter first 446 | Mar 22 09:02 |
| msb_ | It can be argued that the PDP-11 instruction set is the best ever designed, right? | Mar 22 09:03 |
| cubexyz | msb_, I think it's important that people know there's a history of computers that has nothing to do with microsoft | Mar 22 09:04 |
| msb_ | And I'll bet modern Linux is so modular that you could make the kernel run on a PDP-11. | Mar 22 09:04 |
| cubexyz | real PDP-11's are hard to come by now | Mar 22 09:04 |
| msb_ | You can't get an old 11/70 for $5K or so? | Mar 22 09:04 |
| cubexyz | well for 5 grand yes, maybe $2K would be enough | Mar 22 09:05 |
| msb_ | I knew a guy who had a DG Eclipse in his garage. | Mar 22 09:05 |
| cubexyz | but it would be power hungry and the mag core could be troublesome, so I run simh instead | Mar 22 09:05 |
| msb_ | Well, shit, snap it up, along with whatever spares you can find. | Mar 22 09:05 |
| cubexyz | I was thinking microvax would be better, rather than an old PDP-11 | Mar 22 09:06 |
| cubexyz | we'll see | Mar 22 09:06 |
| msb_ | 11/70s still used core mem? | Mar 22 09:06 |
| cubexyz | early ones did | Mar 22 09:06 |
| cubexyz | later ones probably not | Mar 22 09:06 |
| cubexyz | there were several versions | Mar 22 09:06 |
| cubexyz | SSI CPU would be interesting to have | Mar 22 09:07 |
| msb_ | Anyhow, it's probably just the driver chips that go out on those, and they're easy to replace. I've done it. | Mar 22 09:07 |
| cubexyz | microvax I could get for $300 maybe | Mar 22 09:07 |
| msb_ | 12AX7 CPU even more interesting. | Mar 22 09:07 |
| msb_ | How fast are those? | Mar 22 09:08 |
| cubexyz | my timing was bad, I didn't appreciate the old tech when it was cheap | Mar 22 09:08 |
| msb_ | Is a microvax a single-chip cpu? | Mar 22 09:09 |
| cubexyz | depends on the model | Mar 22 09:09 |
| cubexyz | MicroVAX 3100 was KA41-A running at 11 mhz | Mar 22 09:09 |
| msb_ | So about 1/200th the speed of a modern cpu? | Mar 22 09:10 |
| msb_ | or less | Mar 22 09:10 |
| cubexyz | it's still VLSI | Mar 22 09:10 |
| msb_ | in mips or whatever | Mar 22 09:10 |
| cubexyz | so microprocessor | Mar 22 09:10 |
| cubexyz | SCSI 50 pin drives | Mar 22 09:12 |
| cubexyz | not that hard get those | Mar 22 09:12 |
| msb_ | but if it only does about one instruction per clock cycle, and has an 11MHz clock, while current cpus have an 8800 MHz clock (I'm guessing here) then a uvax is 1/800 of thespeed of a current cpu. | Mar 22 09:12 |
| msb_ | It could take 10 minutes for firefox to run up a page. | Mar 22 09:13 |
| cubexyz | well I figure it would be roughly similar to a 286 running Xenix | Mar 22 09:14 |
| cubexyz | maybe a bit slower | Mar 22 09:14 |
| cubexyz | well, not enough memory to run firefox, I wouldn't even consider it :) | Mar 22 09:14 |
| msb_ | A lot of progress has been made since then. | Mar 22 09:15 |
| cubexyz | maybe some text based browser | Mar 22 09:15 |
| cubexyz | I run emulated 2.11BSD which isn't bad, but no web browser | Mar 22 09:15 |
| cubexyz | it has tcp/ip with ftp, ntp, ping, telnet, and sendmail | Mar 22 09:17 |
| msb_ | Please, everybody, watch Transcendent Man (2009) and then Transcendence (2014). They will change your life! | Mar 22 09:17 |
| msb_ | Both can be found if you look for them. | Mar 22 09:18 |
| msb_ | We are Linux users. We are already outlaws! | Mar 22 09:19 |
| cubexyz | probably DEC Alpha would be closer to a modern CPU | Mar 22 09:20 |
| cubexyz | Alpha got phased out when Compaq bought DEC in 1998 | Mar 22 09:21 |
| cubexyz | so welcome to x86-only land | Mar 22 09:21 |
| msb_ | Antitrust (2001) is also a must-see. It is also available. Maybe it will convince some of your customers to switch from windows to Linux. | Mar 22 09:25 |
| cubexyz | they have hung around me long enough to know the score :) | Mar 22 09:26 |
| cubexyz | but I'll mention the movie to them | Mar 22 09:26 |
| cubexyz | as I said, they have started buying chromebooks (and a few have Fedora boxes) so it's a start | Mar 22 09:26 |
| cubexyz | I also sold some Dell laptops with Fedora and Windows | Mar 22 09:27 |
| cubexyz | it's interesting the historical prespective of different people | Mar 22 09:28 |
| cubexyz | the Sun guys used to think DEC was the "bad guy" | Mar 22 09:28 |
| msb_ | I think we should try to stay away from Fedora. systemd is another sabotage job against Linux. | Mar 22 09:28 |
| cubexyz | msb_, this was pre-systemd era | Mar 22 09:29 |
| msb_ | right | Mar 22 09:29 |
| cubexyz | I wouldn't suggest it now | Mar 22 09:29 |
| msb_ | No KDE4/5/Plasma either. That was designed to kill multiple named virtual desktops, one of the most important features of Linux. | Mar 22 09:30 |
| msb_ | Greatly improves mind extension via the computer. | Mar 22 09:31 |
| msb_ | Now use Trinity DE -- https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ | Mar 22 09:32 |
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| msb_ | XRevan86: How would I get 20 different _named_ "activities" (spit!) with a switcher applet in the same position in each one, and the names visible in the switcher buttons? Like I have in KDE3/Trinity. Because the KDE4 experts I talked to said they don't use lots of named desktops. | Mar 22 09:38 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: No idea, I don't have KDE around. | Mar 22 09:39 |
| msb_ | The german guy in charge of the KDE4 window manager wrote 4 or 5 web articles telling the Trinity people to go kill themselves (or at least the project). KDE4 is EVIL. | Mar 22 09:40 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Right, you can't. Because the desktop names are overwritten with garbage in the switcher applet buttons. | Mar 22 09:41 |
| msb_ | KDE4 and systemd are both designed to sabotage Linux. | Mar 22 09:41 |
| msb_ | I don't need a GD "dashboard" or different (or any) wallpapers. | Mar 22 09:42 |
| msb_ | And any "widgets" I want (whatever they mean by that) can be called via icons in a panel or with a script. | Mar 22 09:43 |
| msb_ | Ten years ago when I asked (intelligent) Linux users what feature was most important to them, they said multiple desktops in KDE3. | Mar 22 09:45 |
| msb_ | So KDE4 killed that. | Mar 22 09:46 |
| msb_ | Trinity DE is under active maintenance/development, is available for major distros, and the source is easily accessible. | Mar 22 09:49 |
| msb_ | If you have to load a few extra libraries for it, well, suck it! | Mar 22 09:49 |
| msb_ | That's why Linux is flexible. | Mar 22 09:49 |
| msb_ | So you can get the functionality you want. | Mar 22 09:50 |
| msb_ | And Trinity will never require systemd. | Mar 22 09:51 |
| msb_ | Alright, I will stop now and take a pill. | Mar 22 09:52 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I think I need to check Plasma 5 out :). | Mar 22 09:53 |
| msb_ | Be sure to run it with systemd! | Mar 22 09:54 |
| msb_ | and pulseaudio | Mar 22 09:54 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I have both. | Mar 22 09:54 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Netscape: the web browser that came back to haunt Microsoft | Tux Machines | Mar 22 09:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines today's howtos http://t.co/A6MiwIIMlm | Mar 22 09:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 22 09:57 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/cYhqgubkFm | Mar 22 09:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux Machines | Mar 22 09:57 | |
| cubexyz | msb_, in the 'old' days there was this: | Mar 22 10:31 |
| cubexyz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Mode | Mar 22 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | System Management Mode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jykrn ] | Mar 22 10:31 | |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Can you give a screenshot of your KDE? :) | Mar 22 10:32 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Interesting | Mar 22 10:34 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: what program records a whole screen? | Mar 22 10:41 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: scrot, ksnapshot, xfce4-screenshooter, mate-screenshoot… | Mar 22 10:42 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-plus-mwm-combo-png | Mar 22 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-plus-mwm-combo-png ) | Mar 22 10:42 | |
| cubexyz | there's one of mine :) | Mar 22 10:42 |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: 404 :) | Mar 22 10:44 |
| cubexyz | I never used the system management daughter card | Mar 22 10:45 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/kde-plus-mwm-combo.png | Mar 22 10:45 |
| cubexyz | typo | Mar 22 10:45 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, msb_ has special KDE with many desktops so I want to look at it | Mar 22 10:45 |
| XRevan86 | and mimic it if possible using modern Plasma | Mar 22 10:46 |
| cubexyz | with the SMDC card you can monitor your server even if the OS fails | Mar 22 10:49 |
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| msb_ | XRevan86: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/screenshot2.png | Mar 22 10:55 |
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| cubexyz | cool | Mar 22 10:57 |
| cubexyz | let's see a screenshot from XRevan86 | Mar 22 10:57 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/icewm-with-konsole.png | Mar 22 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Leftovers: Software http://t.co/85zxYWtDL0 | Mar 22 10:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux Machines | Mar 22 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Android Leftovers http://t.co/jqs85RJb60 | Mar 22 10:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Mar 22 10:59 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 22/3/2015: GNOME 3.16 Shaping Up, | Mar 22 10:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | LibrePlanet 2015 http://t.co/0N59TTxnp2 | Mar 22 10:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 22/3/2015: GNOME 3.16 Shaping Up, LibrePlanet 2015 | Techrights | Mar 22 10:59 | |
| msb_ | It's plain old KDE3. Bottom panel (same in all desktops) has main menu and a few app icons, desktop switcher, notifiers, clockcal. Top panel is taskbar. Simple | Mar 22 11:00 |
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| msb_ | I have 139 user processes plus 24 instances of konsole (which all run out of a single process). | Mar 22 11:08 |
| msb_ | cpu usage is about 12%, mostly Firefox, which has 5 windows and hundreds of tabs | Mar 22 11:10 |
| msb_ | By leaving several konsole/mc instances running in each desktop, I have instant access to various (you should excuse the expression) activities within each desktop. All these use little or no cpu when I'm not using them. | Mar 22 11:13 |
| msb_ | For example, in the TVRec(ording) desktop I have the recorder (mencoder), the (ongoing instant) playback (mplayer), and an instance of top so I can get the PIDs of these and set their priorities high (since my old two-core cpu gets 90% used making xvids). | Mar 22 11:17 |
| msb_ | That's the desktop shown. | Mar 22 11:17 |
| msb_ | The TV recording and immediate playback are done with scripts that call mencoder and mplayer. I also have a direct tvview script that doesn't record. These all have interlocks to pass the name of the recorded file and avoid stepping on each other. | Mar 22 11:21 |
| msb_ | The TV card was about $25, 50% off at Fry's. 8^) | Mar 22 11:23 |
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| XRevan86 | Plasma 5 is horrible | Mar 22 11:24 |
| msb_ | Big surprise. | Mar 22 11:24 |
| XRevan86 | http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/15/0322/h_1427037930_5957915_15b7e415c6.png | Mar 22 11:25 |
| msb_ | See those rectangles in the switcher button for the Mail desktop? (Hey, you stole my desktop names!) Those rectangles are stupid window outlines, and once you have a few of them the desktop names in the buttons become unreadable. | Mar 22 11:28 |
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| cubexyz | haha | Mar 22 11:28 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: Nope, still readable. And they are almost hidden when desktop is changed. | Mar 22 11:30 |
| msb_ | I hacked the switcher code to remove the rectangles, but the KDE4 devs weren't interested. They said they didn't use desktops at all, just "activities" (pfui!). | Mar 22 11:30 |
| cubexyz | here's a classy pre-microsoft picture: | Mar 22 11:31 |
| cubexyz | http://www.maxhost.org/other/ibm-1401.jpg | Mar 22 11:31 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: Your picture was taken with only two windows in one desktop. | Mar 22 11:31 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I know, I've checked afterwards | Mar 22 11:31 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I'll make another screenshot after I'd figure out how to remove cashews | Mar 22 11:32 |
| msb_ | Yeah, WTF are those for anyhow? | Mar 22 11:32 |
| cubexyz | snacks? | Mar 22 11:32 |
| cubexyz | :) | Mar 22 11:33 |
| msb_ | IBM-1401 -- 4 huge magtapes, a card reader and a lineprinter! | Mar 22 11:36 |
| cubexyz | yeah! | Mar 22 11:36 |
| cubexyz | and a huge console | Mar 22 11:37 |
| msb_ | This one stored everything in mercury delaylines in hyperspace: http://cosmicpenguin.com/images/pc_of_future.jpg | Mar 22 11:37 |
| msb_ | And some storage tubes. | Mar 22 11:37 |
| cubexyz | mine pic is real :) | Mar 22 11:37 |
| cubexyz | my | Mar 22 11:37 |
| msb_ | And an IBM babe in a matching blue dress! | Mar 22 11:38 |
| cubexyz | with teletype interface and Fortran :) | Mar 22 11:38 |
| cubexyz | yeah they really went with lots of blue there | Mar 22 11:39 |
| cubexyz | I bet that old fart knows machine language :) | Mar 22 11:40 |
| XRevan86 | eh, scriptengines are not available in openSUSE for Plasma5 | Mar 22 11:40 |
| XRevan86 | can't tell if cashews are removable with old good extension or not | Mar 22 11:40 |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Fortran at the very least! | Mar 22 11:41 |
| msb_ | KDE4 cashews are added crap just for the sake of adding crap. They do that a lot. | Mar 22 11:43 |
| XRevan86 | http://cdn.img42.com/e68c21072714a23731c73c07f1a7014d.png | Mar 22 11:44 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: That's what it's like to have windows on other desktops. | Mar 22 11:44 |
| msb_ | There was s--t in there I was never able to figure out, and that was only in version 4.6 | Mar 22 11:44 |
| msb_ | Try having 5 windows of various sizes in most of the desktops. | Mar 22 11:45 |
| msb_ | Since switching desktops is one of the most frequent things I do, I don't like having to deal with pointless eyestrain when I do it. | Mar 22 11:46 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: And make sure they overlap a lot. | Mar 22 11:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines #Canonical Goes to Bed With Company That Sues | Mar 22 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | #Linux Using Software Patents and Copyrights | Mar 22 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (Through #SCO) | Mar 22 11:48 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Eozy7Dit94 (techrights.org) #swpats | Mar 22 11:48 |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @sizeof favourited '#Canonical Goes to Bed With Company That Sues...' | Mar 22 11:48 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Goes to Bed With Company That Sues Linux Using Software Patents and Copyrights (Through SCO) | Techrights | Mar 22 11:48 | |
| msb_ | Doesn't Ubuntu have a store where they _sell_ apps? | Mar 22 11:50 |
| msb_ | KDE4 has some kind of icon in the panel that looks like a smashed up car, and when you click it most of the windows disappear. ?? Maybe it's actually a cashew covered in mold. | Mar 22 11:54 |
| XRevan86 | msb_: I can't bear it anymore. | Mar 22 11:55 |
| msb_ | It's EVIL I tell you! | Mar 22 11:55 |
| msb_ | So why did every distro immediately adopt KDE4 and dump KDE3? (Except SuSE, which still keeps KDE3, at least it did in version 3.1.) | Mar 22 11:58 |
| msb_ | Just like every distro adopted systemd and dumped sysVinit. Did somebody threaten their families? | Mar 22 11:59 |
| msb_ | XRevan86: This is why I assign ZERO weight to the newer-is-better criterion. | Mar 22 12:01 |
| msb_ | It allows any saboteur to poetter around with your system. | Mar 22 12:01 |
| cubexyz | my point exactly | Mar 22 12:03 |
| cubexyz | newer is better... sometimes | Mar 22 12:04 |
| cubexyz | I remember one old guy going on and on about 1940s cars and how 1950s cars were rubbish | Mar 22 12:05 |
| msb_ | There are tens of thousands of people inventing useless new crap simply to justify their salaries. | Mar 22 12:05 |
| cubexyz | that's planned obsolescence | Mar 22 12:06 |
| cubexyz | it's been around quite a long time, but it's worse now | Mar 22 12:06 |
| msb_ | immediate obsolescence | Mar 22 12:06 |
| cubexyz | I still have my 1997 laserjet | Mar 22 12:07 |
| cubexyz | works good | Mar 22 12:07 |
| msb_ | it's crapitalism | Mar 22 12:07 |
| cubexyz | some of my DEC crazy associates have decwriters | Mar 22 12:08 |
| cubexyz | then I hear about the opposite, one shoe repair guy still uses 1920s technology | Mar 22 12:08 |
| cubexyz | no reason you have to use latest and greatest | Mar 22 12:09 |
| msb_ | The steam-powered shoe buffers were the best! | Mar 22 12:10 |
| cubexyz | a shoe iron doesn't really wear out | Mar 22 12:11 |
| msb_ | I watched a very weird anime' yesterday called Steamboy. All weird steam technology. | Mar 22 12:11 |
| cubexyz | I think there's a novel about Babbage era technology | Mar 22 12:12 |
| cubexyz | a sort of what if the Babbage computer was successful sort of thing | Mar 22 12:13 |
| msb_ | For a while DEC displays were round. I liked that. | Mar 22 12:13 |
| cubexyz | it's the natural form factor for early CRTs | Mar 22 12:15 |
| cubexyz | conical CRT is easier to make | Mar 22 12:16 |
| msb_ | Apparently photographers in 1860 didn't tell people to smile. Or maybe he died in 1859. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage | Mar 22 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Charles Babbage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jylk5 ] | Mar 22 12:17 | |
| msb_ | cubexyz: right -- convex surfaces withstand the pressure better | Mar 22 12:17 |
| cubexyz | I think that was due to the long exposure time of cameras of that era, but yeah Babbage looks a bit grumpy in that pic | Mar 22 12:18 |
| cubexyz | I think I remember seeing some 1950s or older ... it looked like the monitor was circular but cut off at the top and bottom | Mar 22 12:20 |
| cubexyz | 1950s tv sets | Mar 22 12:21 |
| cubexyz | not really cut off but hidden by the bezel | Mar 22 12:21 |
| msb_ | Lots of Babbage-oriented fiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_Engine#In_popular_culture | Mar 22 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Analytical Engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jylo4 ] | Mar 22 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/579681394391121920 | Mar 22 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz With BRICS it might just happen. | Mar 22 12:33 | |
| msb_ | schestowitz: What an idiot! We now know that Venezuela is the real menace to the US! | Mar 22 12:45 |
| msb_ | They are secretly planning to all fart in our general direction! | Mar 22 12:46 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 22 13:33 |
| MinceR | it's possible to be told to smile and yet not smile | Mar 22 13:34 |
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| cubexyz | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/The.Pirate.Bay.Cartoon-small.png | Mar 22 13:45 |
| MinceR | http://imgur.com/gallery/9GUTpN5 | Mar 22 13:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imgur.com | IKEA named their new pillow cover Putin. - Imgur | Mar 22 13:52 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Plague Inc: Evolved Game Is Now For Linux | Mar 22 13:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plague Inc: Evolved Game Is Now For Linux | Tux Machines | Mar 22 13:56 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Sébastien Jodogne, ReGlue are Free Software | Mar 22 13:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Award winners http://t.co/EYJQVMDSxO | Mar 22 13:56 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sébastien Jodogne, ReGlue are Free Software Award winners | Tux Machines | Mar 22 13:56 | |
| MinceR | (probably fake though) | Mar 22 13:56 |
| cubexyz | don't forget you can buy The Evil Within at the microsoft store | Mar 22 13:58 |
| cubexyz | just look at this highly appealing ad: | Mar 22 14:00 |
| cubexyz | http://www.xbox.com/en-CA/games/evil-within/buy-now/xbox-360 | Mar 22 14:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xbox.com | The Evil Within for Xbox | Xbox Canada [ http://ur1.ca/jyme5 ] | Mar 22 14:00 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: which days do you want logs for? | Mar 22 14:00 |
| msb_ | If you have an Xbox you already have the Evil Within. | Mar 22 14:10 |
| cubexyz | http://trendingcurrentevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Bill-Gates-Count-to-10-Windows-Meme.jpg | Mar 22 14:11 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up The Raspberry PI 2 | Mar 22 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/AHXUE408qa | Mar 22 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.everydaylinuxuser.com) | Mar 22 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.everydaylinuxuser.com | Setting Up The Raspberry PI 2 « Everyday Linux User | Mar 22 14:41 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME’s Mutter Can Now Scale Window Decorations | Mar 22 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on HiDPI Displays | Mar 22 14:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7NxPn2sAWR (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 22 14:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME’s Mutter Can Now Scale Window Decorations on HiDPI Displays - Softpedia | Mar 22 14:41 | |
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| amarsh04 | msb_ I have steamboy but haven't watched it yet | Mar 22 15:11 |
| msb_ | amarsh04: It's visually clever. Plotwise confused. | Mar 22 15:12 |
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| msb_ | Not as good as Ghost in the Shell or Cowboy Bebop | Mar 22 15:14 |
| amarsh04 | ok... I've seen some of each of those | Mar 22 15:15 |
| amarsh04 | but I like the music more than the anime - one can enjoy it while doing other things | Mar 22 15:16 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @StephDAVOS favourited 'Setting Up The Raspberry PI 2 ...' | Mar 22 15:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Setting Up The Raspberry PI 2 | Mar 22 15:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Setting Up The Raspberry PI 2 | Tux Machines | Mar 22 15:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines GNOME’s Mutter Can Now Scale Window Decorations | Mar 22 15:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | on HiDPI Displays http://t.co/ffVtzQVylN | Mar 22 15:39 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME’s Mutter Can Now Scale Window Decorations on HiDPI Displays | Tux Machines | Mar 22 15:39 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Today in Techrights http://t.co/gG3OonwOqE | Mar 22 15:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Mar 22 15:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Pinguy OS 14.04.2 Point Release | Mar 22 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/gg27bPAayz (pinguyos.com) | Mar 22 15:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pinguyos.com | Pinguy OS 14.04.2 Point Release - Pinguy OS | Mar 22 15:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Manjaro KDE 0.9.0-pre5 edition released | Mar 22 15:50 |
| TweetTuxMachines | https://t.co/tXLknyf82L (manjaro.github.io) | Mar 22 15:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro KDE 0.9.0-pre5 edition released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicity | Mar 22 15:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition FINAL released. | Mar 22 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/nld8funnCv (4mlinux.blogspot.co.uk) | Mar 22 16:05 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4mlinux.blogspot.co.uk | 4MLinux Blog: News | Mar 22 16:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines YUMI-2.0.1.6 released http://t.co/sH6ieR0CnV | Mar 22 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.itrunsonlinux.com) "can be used to create | Mar 22 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | a Multiboot USB Flash Drive containing multiple | Mar 22 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itrunsonlinux.com | YUMI-2.0.1.6 released | Mar 22 16:05 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | operating systems" | Mar 22 16:05 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines "AMD Is Hiring Two More Open-Source Linux GPU | Mar 22 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Driver Developers" http://t.co/7vAvahoorw | Mar 22 16:05 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.phoronix.com) | Mar 22 16:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | AMD Is Hiring Two More Open-Source Linux GPU Driver Developers - Phoronix | Mar 22 16:05 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SecoreBoot-Windows-10 | Mar 22 16:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | New SecureBoot Concerns Arise With Windows 10 - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/jyn8x ] | Mar 22 16:09 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 22 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Most Linux distributions out there are now SecureBoot-supported, but there's still fears over Microsoft some day revoking the Linux key or otherwise locking out users from their own operating system. Those running custom kernels and other environments that aren't SecureBoot signed could also be a problem in the future. | Mar 22 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Right now I'm cautiously optimistic though that most motherboard vendors will still offer the option to disable SecureBoot, so it's not a nightmare scenario quite yet. At least these days more IHVs are concerning themselves with Linux thanks to SteamOS & Co. Windows 10 computers will start surfacing later this year. | Mar 22 16:09 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 22 16:09 |
| cubexyz | this is a "boil the frog" thing | Mar 22 16:38 |
| cubexyz | M$ is turning up the heat | Mar 22 16:38 |
| cubexyz | they don't have to make it impossible to boot linux, that would attract attention from the DOJ | Mar 22 16:39 |
| cubexyz | they'll just keep making it more and more difficult | Mar 22 16:40 |
| balrog | expect low end stuff to be locked out | Mar 22 16:41 |
| balrog | like the 7" acer tablets | Mar 22 16:41 |
| cubexyz | "it's not a nightmare scenario quite yet" | Mar 22 16:41 |
| cubexyz | that's not very reassuring | Mar 22 16:42 |
| balrog | it's stuff for which they don't even bother to make a stable UEFI firmware | Mar 22 16:43 |
| cubexyz | Microsoft might not revoke the linux key? Wow, that's not something I can really count on | Mar 22 16:44 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5805132 | Mar 22 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Michael Silver Back to Acting as #Gartner 's Microsoft Agent, Promoting #Vista10 Based on False Promises http://techrights.org/2015/03/22/michael-silver-vista-10/ | Mar 22 16:45 | |
| schestowitz | "In the Netherlands we say "Bijt niet in de hand die je voert." (never bite the hand that feeds you). So their reports wont have any importance because it's more of an ad than a report?" | Mar 22 16:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Michael Silver Back to Acting as Gartner’s Microsoft Agent, Promoting Vista 10 Based on False Promises | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/jyncp ] | Mar 22 16:45 | |
| schestowitz | Many reporters do reprint what Gartners says | Mar 22 16:45 |
| cubexyz | I'm not using any microsoft key that can be revoked, ridiculous idea | Mar 22 16:46 |
| cubexyz | fact: the OEMs can lock secure boot on | Mar 22 16:48 |
| cubexyz | doesn't mean they will of course | Mar 22 16:48 |
| MinceR | not in the beginning, that is | Mar 22 16:48 |
| cubexyz | I hear even if you remove the cmos battery secure boot will stay on | Mar 22 16:50 |
| cubexyz | the board has to support Legacy Boot | Mar 22 16:52 |
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| cubexyz | if it does, you're fine | Mar 22 16:52 |
| MinceR | until you step in a bug because it's a bloated mess | Mar 22 16:53 |
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| cubexyz | I know one of my motherboards quite well as I put coreboot on it | Mar 22 16:55 |
| cubexyz | even did some ISA card testing with it | Mar 22 16:56 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD | Mar 22 16:59 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Systems http://t.co/j6T35meM4m | Mar 22 16:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD Linux Systems - Phoronix | Mar 22 16:59 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines User reviews: Applications provided by #Jolla | Mar 22 17:35 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/YZE9ZfjeGj | Mar 22 17:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reviewjolla.blogspot.nl | Review #Jolla #SailfishOS: User reviews: Applications provided by Jolla | Mar 22 17:35 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @JollaBot retweeted @tuxmachines: 'User reviews: Applications provided by #Jolla http://t.co/YZE9ZfjeGj' | Mar 22 17:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition FINAL released. | Mar 22 17:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition FINAL released. | Tux Machines | Mar 22 17:35 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines 101 Open Source Tools for Developers | Mar 22 17:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 101 Open Source Tools for Developers | Tux Machines | Mar 22 17:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD | Mar 22 17:36 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Linux Systems http://t.co/ITfPY7YZT6 | Mar 22 17:36 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Look At BCache vs. LVM Cache For HDD+SSD Linux Systems | Tux Machines | Mar 22 17:36 | |
| DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/ | Mar 22 17:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Windows 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jy8jp ] | Mar 22 17:36 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines User reviews: Applications provided by Jolla | Mar 22 17:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | User reviews: Applications provided by Jolla | Tux Machines | Mar 22 17:38 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Telco sector OPNFV project champions open | Mar 22 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | network services http://t.co/l6tZpKCxUB | Mar 22 17:38 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 22 17:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Telco sector OPNFV project champions open network services | Tux Machines | Mar 22 17:38 | |
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| MinceR | gn | Mar 22 21:24 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited '101 Open Source Tools for Developers http://t.co/1ueuQSsb6i' | Mar 22 21:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Running for DPL http://t.co/mimujFT6D8 | Mar 22 21:27 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (blog.dogguy.org) "I nominated myself as a | Mar 22 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dogguy.org | Crazy world...: Running for DPL | Mar 22 21:27 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | candidate for the 2015 DPL election." | Mar 22 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.joindiaspora.com/posts/5807478 | Mar 22 21:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: .@STcom and @govsingapore have changed their whole brand/background to a shrine of Lee Kuan Yew. So much for free press and gov... #singapore | Mar 22 21:37 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Want to run Android on your PC? AMI’s DuOS is | Mar 22 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | the answer http://t.co/BYMbSuWaIq | Mar 22 22:01 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.digitaltrends.com) | Mar 22 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Android on Windows: AMI DuOS review | Digital Trends | Mar 22 22:01 | |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Big Manjaro Linux refresh | Mar 22 22:01 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Nn587sZG0o (news.softpedia.com) | Mar 22 22:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Manjaro Linux KDE 0.9.0 Pre5 Out Now, Ships with KDE Plasma 5.2.1 and KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 - Softpedia | Mar 22 22:01 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Manjaro Linux Update Pack Brings Lots of KDE Plasma 5 and Xfce 4.12 Fixes, Linux Kernel 3.19.2 - Softpedia | Mar 22 22:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Mar 23 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | 3 mins · Edited · | Mar 23 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | I guess that would make it tortoise interruptus? | Mar 23 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | http://gizmo.do/rSAwR0Y | Mar 23 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Man Interrupts Tortoise Sex, World's Slowest Chase Scene Ensues | Mar 23 00:38 | |
| DaemonFC | Ryan Farmer | Mar 23 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | 6 mins · | Mar 23 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Mario coming to the iPhone.... Why is this news? I'm sure that Android has an NES emulator that can load ROMs. The only reason it would be news for Apple users is because they're forbidden to install things like that. | Mar 23 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.zdnet.com/article/top-ios-news-of-the-week-mario-coming-to-iphone-ios-8-growing-trade-android-for-iphone/ | Mar 23 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Top iOS news of the week: Mario coming to iPhone, iOS 8 growing, trade Android for iPhone | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jyqgx ] | Mar 23 00:39 | |
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| *TweetTuxMachines @sjodogne favourited 'Sébastien Jodogne, ReGlue are Free Software Award winners...' | Mar 23 02:03 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines The Demise of Open Source Hosting Providers | Mar 23 02:03 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Codehaus and Google Code http://t.co/8qSfuXPH8V | Mar 23 02:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Demise of Open Source Hosting Providers Codehaus and Google Code | Tux Machines | Mar 23 02:03 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5807206 | Mar 23 04:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@silverwolf@diasp.eu: After receiving comments with people attacking me personally and calling me an anti-semite for sharing political cartoons regarding the state of Israel, I have taken down some of the cartoons. I wonder if anyone would have said anything had I shared cartoons about the prophet Mohammad? Probably not considering the feedback. #doublestandards #hypocrisy #freespeech | Mar 23 04:41 | |
| schestowitz | "There are jokes about Catholic priests everywhere just the same about Muslims, but when you say "hey Rabbi" they get their panties in a bunch. LOL Im glad it is quite obvious to some of you ;)" | Mar 23 04:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Lefties/Progressives would have attacked you either way (Israel or Muhammad cartoons), probably even more on the latter since many lefties are raving anti-semites. Others usually have individual preferences. While there definitely is a strong political control with such hypocrisy (e.g. in France), I dunno if there is any of that on Diaspora. | Mar 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | I generally stay away from the topic Israel/Jews/Palestine/et.al., since it's just one big mess and I have no idea what is actually going on – like ISIS, the US is/was probably behind some of it, but to what degree is pure speculation. | Mar 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | It's good that you're willing to risk your neck going in there, but besides my adamant support for your right to free speech I cannot back you up on the issue; except that the attackers should go fuck themselves. Repeatedly. Against their own will. With chainsaws. | Mar 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | "well said" | Mar 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | "Be careful who you generalize about." | Mar 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | xDDD | Mar 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Seems someone is so horribly traumatized by rambo's movies about "lefties/progressives", that forgets that are the righties the ones who are funding the righties in israel, ukraine, venezuela, and everywhere :) I know there are many childish here (exactly the same as in righties) but this is Off-topic isn't it? :) | Mar 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 04:42 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5806610 | Mar 23 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Mexicoleaks shows promise http://www.latintimes.com/mexican-wikileaks-launched-will-mexicoleaks-unearth-corruption-301638 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/03/13/mexicos-version-of-wikileaks-causes-controversy-before-its-first-story/ http://phys.org/news/2015-03-mexico-wikileaks.html | Mar 23 04:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.latintimes.com | Mexican Wikileaks Launched: Will Mexicoleaks Unearth Corruption? [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh6 ] | Mar 23 04:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | Mexico’s version of WikiLeaks causes controversy before its first story - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh7 ] | Mar 23 04:46 | |
| schestowitz | Do you mean the country that voted for the most handsome candidate and now seems to regret it? I would not hold my breadth. | Mar 23 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> phys.org | Mexico's own 'WikiLeaks' already making waves [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh8 ] | Mar 23 04:46 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2974973/Pena-Nieto-faces-human-rights-demos.html | Mar 23 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Pena nieto faces human rights demos | Daily Mail Online [ http://ur1.ca/jyrh9 ] | Mar 23 04:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 23 04:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5807406 | Mar 23 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #police for the affluent https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0e/ea/e4/0eeae49e3e67de87fa0ed319206b6f1a.jpg knowing who they really serve and protect (except themselves) | Mar 23 04:46 | |
| schestowitz | "Maybe the hawk did not want problems with the police." | Mar 23 04:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5807325 | Mar 23 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@hisdudeness777@joindiaspora.com reshared: After receiving comments with people attacking me personally and calling me an anti-semite for sharing political cartoons regarding the state of Israel, I have taken down some of the cartoons. I wonder if anyone would have said anything had I shared cartoons about the prophet Mohammad? Probably not considering the feedback. #doublestandards #hypocrisy #freespeech | Mar 23 04:46 | |
| schestowitz | "Regardless of if they were or they weren't, the double standards have been exposed. Its ok to poke fun at Catholic priests, Muslims, Russians etc but if you open your mouth about a Rabbi, the whole mob goes after you." | Mar 23 04:46 |
| schestowitz | If you introduce swastikas and Nazi-era cartoons, then it's becoming tasteless | Mar 23 04:47 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian | Mar 23 05:20 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/cMlHd52Qap (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 23 05:20 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian | Tux Machines | Mar 23 05:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors | Mar 23 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fight Ebola http://t.co/szsYuy3DWM | Mar 23 05:21 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 23 05:21 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors Fight Ebola | Tux Machines | Mar 23 05:21 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Mar 23 05:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/H86hgCLkZO (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 23 05:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Tux Machines | Mar 23 05:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now | Mar 23 05:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download with MakeMKV | Mar 23 05:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now Available for Download with MakeMKV | Tux Machines | Mar 23 05:25 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 | Mar 23 05:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Several Updated Drivers | Mar 23 05:25 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/7eDDkRjwxU (www.tuxmachines.org) | Mar 23 05:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 with Several Updated Drivers | Tux Machines | Mar 23 05:25 | |
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| Sosumi | http://blog.gsmarena.com/windows-10-may-play-well-another-os/ | Mar 23 06:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.gsmarena.com | Windows 10 may not play well with a another OS - GSMArena Blog [ http://ur1.ca/jyrz8 ] | Mar 23 06:49 | |
| Sosumi | disabling secure boot is no longer mandatory | Mar 23 06:49 |
| Sosumi | well, having an option to disable | Mar 23 06:49 |
| Sosumi | it | Mar 23 06:49 |
| schestowitz | > https://duck.co/blog/donations_2015 | Mar 23 06:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-duck.co | 2015 Open Source Donations | Mar 23 06:51 | |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 23 06:51 |
| schestowitz | > Nice to see Tails and GPG on the list. | Mar 23 06:51 |
| schestowitz | DDG? Yikes. | Mar 23 06:51 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: MS Peter | Mar 23 06:51 |
| schestowitz | I think it mat | Mar 23 06:52 |
| schestowitz | may be overstated | Mar 23 06:52 |
| schestowitz | to attract attention | Mar 23 06:52 |
| schestowitz | Sosumi: see what I published half an hour ago... | Mar 23 06:52 |
| Sosumi | yep, sorry | Mar 23 06:54 |
| Sosumi | for republishing | Mar 23 06:54 |
| *TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors...' | Mar 23 07:03 | |
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| cubexyz | PMON did something interesting | Mar 23 07:23 |
| cubexyz | it simulates x86 to handle VGA code | Mar 23 07:24 |
| cubexyz | also supports booting from USB devices | Mar 23 07:24 |
| cubexyz | Debian Wheezy does a pretty good job supporting Lemote | Mar 23 07:25 |
| cubexyz | the Lemote folks have ported Debian to Loongson arch | Mar 23 07:26 |
| cubexyz | Gentoo & Slackware also work | Mar 23 07:26 |
| cubexyz | even java was ported to Loongson | Mar 23 07:27 |
| cubexyz | alas, no distribution at all in North America | Mar 23 07:28 |
| cubexyz | well someone is buying them... everyone seems to be sold out | Mar 23 07:33 |
| cubexyz | alibaba russian has some | Mar 23 07:35 |
| cubexyz | wow, some models are pretty cheap | Mar 23 07:37 |
| cubexyz | $109.50 but tiny 7" screen | Mar 23 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines No More Probes, A Really Stylish Survival RTS | Mar 23 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Coming To Linux https://t.co/uc8EgMHmjx | Mar 23 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.gamingonlinux.com) | Mar 23 07:37 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian | Mar 23 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/nhHkxWh24y (www.linuxlinks.com) | Mar 23 07:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com | Raspberry Pi 2: Ubuntu MATE 15.04 v Raspbian - Linux Links - The Linux Portal Site | Mar 23 07:37 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Google Makes Open Source Tablet To Help Doctors | Mar 23 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Fight Ebola http://t.co/nhHkxWh24y | Mar 23 07:37 |
| TweetTuxMachines | (www.linuxlinks.com) | Mar 23 07:37 |
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| cubexyz | this is strange... only alibaba russia has stock | Mar 23 07:38 |
| cubexyz | is google pulling something here? | Mar 23 07:39 |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Mar 23 07:40 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/Xb5j1uStMk (www.networksasia.net) | Mar 23 07:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networksasia.net | Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy | Networks Asia | Mar 23 07:40 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now | Mar 23 07:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | Available for Download with MakeMKV | Mar 23 07:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/0nHahLPXr6 (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 23 07:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Final 4MLinux 11.1 Allinone Edition Is Now Available for Download with MakeMKV - Softpedia | Mar 23 07:41 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 | Mar 23 07:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | with Several Updated Drivers | Mar 23 07:41 |
| TweetTuxMachines | http://t.co/ISAlLTc4GB (linux.softpedia.com) | Mar 23 07:41 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Linus Torvalds Releases Linux Kernel 4.0 RC5 with Several Updated Drivers - Softpedia | Mar 23 07:41 | |
| *TweetTuxMachines @evankirstel favourited 'Red Hat unveils enterprise mobility strategy http://t.co/Xb5j1uStMk' | Mar 23 07:41 | |
| cubexyz | VIA WM8850 android laptop 7" for $47 but only 20 piece orders | Mar 23 07:43 |
| msb_ | Wow, computers for less than $50! | Mar 23 07:47 |
| msb_ | Soon everyone in the world will have one, or access to one. | Mar 23 07:48 |
| cubexyz | yeah kind of crazy | Mar 23 07:48 |
| cubexyz | something funny is going on with lemote though | Mar 23 07:48 |
| msb_ | Free software will be vital to enable uncensored communication. | Mar 23 07:48 |
| cubexyz | msb_, don't you think it's a bit odd that alibaba russian has tons of lemote laptops but when I log onto my alibaba account there's no lemote computers at all? | Mar 23 07:49 |
| msb_ | There is also Raspberry Pi 2, and this one, which has so many hardware features it is thrilling: http://store.imgtec.com/us/product/mips-creator-ci20/ | Mar 23 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-store.imgtec.com | MIPS® Creator CI20 | Imagination Store [ http://ur1.ca/jys7g ] | Mar 23 07:51 | |
| msb_ | cubexyz: Sure. Maybe XRevan86 could try logging in. | Mar 23 07:53 |
| XRevan86 | I don't have an account there. | Mar 23 07:53 |
| cubexyz | msb_, CI20 creator looks interesting but what about the firmware? | Mar 23 07:54 |
| msb_ | Not sure. Everything may be opensource. http://elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI20 | Mar 23 07:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elinux.org | MIPS Creator CI20 - eLinux.org | Mar 23 07:56 | |
| cubexyz | nah, looks like binary blobs to me | Mar 23 07:57 |
| msb_ | http://elinux.org/CI20_Downloads | Mar 23 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-elinux.org | CI20 Downloads - eLinux.org | Mar 23 07:57 | |
| msb_ | We are entering the era of system on a chip. For sure, somebody will do it right. | Mar 23 07:58 |
| msb_ | China manufactures very inexpensive chips. | Mar 23 07:59 |
| msb_ | Like and Ato | Mar 23 07:59 |
| msb_ | Like and AtoD to USB convertor for a couple of dollars. | Mar 23 07:59 |
| msb_ | Like an AtoD to USB convertor for a couple of dollars. | Mar 23 08:00 |
| cubexyz | I see that ARM-based chromebooks also use U-boot | Mar 23 08:00 |
| cubexyz | like the CI20 | Mar 23 08:00 |
| cubexyz | yeah I think I'll probably get one of the chromeboxes | Mar 23 08:01 |
| msb_ | If widespread uncensored Net access can be achieved, along with computers for $50-100 complete with keyboard and screen, then the fascist attacks by the US Empire will be more difficult to carry out, or at least to lie about. | Mar 23 08:04 |
| msb_ | Controlling entire populations is difficult. Bombing has a bad reputation. | Mar 23 08:05 |
| cubexyz | something up in Yemen | Mar 23 08:06 |
| cubexyz | there's talk of civil war :-/ | Mar 23 08:06 |
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| msb_ | Here's a recent article from the most accurate news site I've found: http://www.globalresearch.ca/yemen-american-weapons-once-more-landed-up-in-the-wrong-hands-mistakenly-in-the-hands-of-al-qaeda/5437988 | Mar 23 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalresearch.ca | Yemen: American Weapons Once More “Landed Up in the Wrong Hands”. Mistakenly in the Hands of Al Qaeda | Global Research [ http://ur1.ca/jys9j ] | Mar 23 08:11 | |
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| msb_ | The primary goal of US policy is to destroy socialism, because socialism gives the profits to workers instead of to ultra-wealthy psychopath owners like the ones who control the US govt. | Mar 23 08:41 |
| msb_ | To this end, the US backs the most murderous dictators it can find, to keep workers from organizing. About half a century ago, the US got rid of socialist leaders in Iraq and Iran, replacing them with torturing murdering Saddam Hussein and Shah Reza Pahlavi. | Mar 23 08:44 |
| MinceR | yeah, we had so much profit under socialism | Mar 23 08:44 |
| msb_ | In stage two, Saddam got a bit uppity, and was declared to be a monster by the US. So he and Iraq were declared war targets by the US, which murdered millions of Iraqis. The US neglected to mention that it had put Saddam into power in the first place. | Mar 23 08:46 |
| msb_ | Pahlavi got sick and died, and was replaced by Ayatollah Khomeini. | Mar 23 08:47 |
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| MinceR | must be a reptoid conspiracy. | Mar 23 08:48 |
| msb_ | Here the anti-human insanity of the Moslem religion came in handy. If you can get people down on their knees worshipping a non-existent deity several times a day, instead of several times a year as with judaism and christianity, then you have pretty much destroyed their minds and capacity for critical thinking. You can get them to do anything you tell them. | Mar 23 08:50 |
| msb_ | So both Iraq and Iran were controlled by murderous lunatics, thanks to the US. The US armed both of them to fight wars against each other. | Mar 23 08:51 |
| msb_ | The US armed, financed and trained Al-Qaeda, back when it was called the Mujahideen and sent by Reagan to overthrow the secular socialist government of Afghanistan, in order to cause trouble for the USSR ("Russia's Vietnam"). | Mar 23 08:55 |
| msb_ | Now the US has created ISIS, and is arming and funding it through one or more cut-outs, and claiming it is the current | Mar 23 08:56 |
| msb_ | Now the US has created ISIS, and is arming and funding it through one or more cut-outs, and claiming it is the current Great Menace. | Mar 23 08:56 |
| msb_ | It's easy to create armies of insane Moslem warriors with a few billion dollars. The religion makes them crazy, and also teaches them "Jihad" -- mass-murdering whatever group the leader tells them are not true Moslems. | Mar 23 08:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itrunsonlinux.com | Neptune 4.3 available | It runs on Linux | Mar 23 12:50 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Ten years of Kubuntu http://t.co/0hiORcYxLA | Mar 23 13:09 |
| MinceR | geekings | Mar 23 13:09 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's releases and howtos | Tux Machines | Mar 23 14:31 | |
| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Links 23/3/2015: Linux 4.0 RC5, Kubuntu | Mar 23 14:31 |
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| TweetTuxMachines | @tuxmachines Software freedom http://t.co/egO84wE1rZ | Mar 23 14:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software freedom | Tux Machines | Mar 23 14:31 | |
| MinceR | https://scontent-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10984603_909130072464858_8849666308484622567_n.jpg?oh=03a5324b80a94705197d13c3f708f5ef&oe=557E826D | Mar 23 14:40 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: George Bush could not recall this proverb | Mar 23 15:27 |
| schestowitz | !google bush shame on you | Mar 23 15:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Bush "Fool Me Once..." - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DeKgPY1adc0A | Mar 23 15:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - George W. Bush - Wikiquote | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_W._Bush | Mar 23 15:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Quote by George W. Bush: “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I ... | http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/6436-there-s-an-old-saying-in-tennessee-i-know-it-s | Mar 23 15:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Bushism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushism | Mar 23 15:28 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz | do you have this in the weekend to look into logs? | Mar 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz | I hope to publish the logs next week :-p | Mar 23 15:29 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 23 15:29 |
| MinceR | which days do you need logs for? | Mar 23 15:29 |
| schestowitz | cheers mate :-) | Mar 23 15:29 |
| schestowitz | best to go back to 24/2 | Mar 23 15:29 |
| schestowitz | for the 4 channels | Mar 23 15:29 |
| MinceR | so everything since 2015-02-24? | Mar 23 15:29 |
| schestowitz | yes, please, if possible... | Mar 23 15:30 |
| MinceR | ok | Mar 23 15:30 |
| schestowitz | I didn't lose data since 2008... | Mar 23 15:30 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: is it ok if i package a bigger range? it would take less work for me :) | Mar 23 15:46 |
| schestowitz | sure :-) | Mar 23 15:47 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: which email address should i send it to? or should i just upload it to sendspace and paste the link? | Mar 23 16:25 |
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| MinceR | “I have to explain that I’m not an anarchist – I have a pro-state gland.” | Mar 23 16:32 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: r at schestowitz com, thank you :-) | Mar 23 16:42 |
| MinceR | is it ok if i send it via gmail? | Mar 23 16:45 |
| MinceR | the file is too big for mail2tor :) | Mar 23 16:45 |
| schestowitz | sure no secrets in it | Mar 23 16:45 |
| schestowitz | much of it is to be published as HTML | Mar 23 16:45 |
| MinceR | sent | Mar 23 16:47 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: that's awesome, thank you! | Mar 23 17:24 |
| MinceR | np | Mar 23 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: #Debian Project Leader 2010-2013 and board director at #OSI /opensource dot org considers asking a question about #systemd 'trolling' https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150323.184359.c8760b91.en.html | Mar 23 21:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.dyne.org | Re: [Dng] rumors on RMS about systemd at libreplanet [ http://ur1.ca/jyvb9 ] | Mar 23 21:23 | |
| MinceR | seen it | Mar 23 21:23 |
| MinceR | also, Stefano Zacchiroli is also a member of Free Software Foundation's High Priority Projects committee, according to wikipedia | Mar 23 21:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/580181745540018176 | Mar 23 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Did you catch? -- https://t.co/kbXHmfuK56 (Banks; Cards; "Consumer Credit / Reporting Agencies",e.g.,"TRW"=CIA contractor, etc) | Mar 23 21:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/03/21/have-the-banks-escaped-criminal-prosecution-because-theyre-spying-surrogates/ ) | Mar 23 21:47 | |
| schestowitz | Seen it, tweeted it days ago, posted in techrights | Mar 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: wow | Mar 23 21:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/580184530679541760 | Mar 23 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz Excellent: have you drawn and inferences or connections from it? Like to hear | Mar 23 21:55 | |
| schestowitz | Not my area of expertise TBH | Mar 23 21:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/580185586348118016 | Mar 23 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: .@zacchiro considers asking@ question about #systemd 'trolling' https://t.co/GAbRHE31H0 via @schestowitz cc:@mbJunior http://t.co/hUxe8JXknk | Mar 23 21:55 | |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 23 21:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/580186146845560833 | Mar 23 21:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: @schestowitz darn! | Mar 23 21:57 | |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 23 22:30 |
| schestowitz | nn, wow, late... | Mar 23 22:30 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5810991 | Mar 23 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #idg helps people run #windows stuff on #gnu #linux http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900497/how-to-run-windows-software-in-linux-everything-you-need-to-know.html as if GNU/Linux hasn't got #freesw for everything | Mar 23 22:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.pcworld.com | How to run Windows software in Linux: Everything you need to know | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/jywns ] | Mar 23 22:30 | |
| schestowitz | "I don't think pure GNU 100% free software allows for wine or virtual machine due to proprietary code...." | Mar 23 22:30 |
| schestowitz | Nothing prevents it from running, but I guess prebundling it in a distro is another matter... | Mar 23 22:31 |
| MinceR | they can even run systemd, wayland and gnome | Mar 23 22:34 |
| schestowitz | > http://www.pcworld.com/article/2900497/how-to-run-windows-software-in-linux-everything-you-need-to-know.html | Mar 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | > kind of missing the point | Mar 23 22:39 |
| schestowitz | No, maybe this IS the point of IDG. | Mar 23 22:39 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: your recent microsoft articles are excellent. I didn't know Win 10 had no off secure boot requirement for OEMs | Mar 24 00:12 |
| XFaCE | but we knew that would eventually happen. Even Nathan Lineback knew. Doesn't take a genius | Mar 24 00:12 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: but I love how we were all paranoid | Mar 24 00:12 |
| XFaCE | somehow | Mar 24 00:12 |
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| XFaCE | "Meanwhile, as revealed to us by a tip, Microsoft’s booster Julie Bort writes “LEAKED” to mean “press release” or “public relations”. It is yet another puff piece/ad framed as “leak” for some extra attention or allure. Again, this is typical for Microsoft. Watch this other article titled “Microsoft leak shows plans for cloud-first Nano Server”." | Mar 24 00:38 |
| XFaCE | schestowitz: of course, this shit's been going on since the 90s | Mar 24 00:39 |
| XFaCE | Cairo, Longhorn, et al. | Mar 24 00:39 |
| XFaCE | Many promises during Chicago | Mar 24 00:39 |
| XFaCE | OS/2. Windows NT, Windows 1.x | Mar 24 00:39 |
| XFaCE | lots of obfuscating bullshit encrusting the substance | Mar 24 00:40 |
| XFaCE | The perpetual fluff machine by Microsoft | Mar 24 00:41 |
| tessier | Windows 3.1 was the last version of Windows I ever seriously used. | Mar 24 00:50 |
| XFaCE | "Microsoft loves Linux like a shark loves fish." - Indeed | Mar 24 01:12 |
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